#1 [00:01] * EmpiresBane [EmpiresBane@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2 [00:01] <EmpiresBane> back on windows
#3 [00:01] <Kealper> LOL
#4 [00:01] <Kealper> http://www.facebook.com/notes/paz/i-crashed-paris-hiltons-birthday-and-accidentally-the-whole-cake/10150122373449777
#5 [00:01] <Kealper> this guy has true balls of steel
#6 [00:02] <Kealper> definately worth the read
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#8 [00:04] <Hsdude> Hey, can someone help me with a collecting resources problem?
#9 [00:04] <Kealper> depends, what's the problem?
#10 [00:04] <Kealper> spam left click all day and the stuff just doesn't break?
#11 [00:05] <Kealper> break stuff ingame and it just appears instantly, and doesn't give you anything?
#12 [00:05] <Hsdude> nope :/
#13 [00:05] <Kealper> nope what o.o
#14 [00:05] <Hsdude> when I try to break something, it doesn't break at ALL
#15 [00:05] <Kealper> hold the left mouse button down, don't just push it
#16 [00:05] <Hsdude> at starts to crack, but then it act like I never clicked it
#17 [00:05] <Hsdude> ahhhhhh
#18 [00:05] <Kealper> common problem with new people :P
#19 [00:06] <Kealper> !tutorial
#20 [00:06] <Hsdude> nice guess ;)
#21 [00:06] <Kealper> that video is a must-see to beginners
#22 [00:06] <Kealper> explains the basics
#23 [00:06] <DopeGhoti> ?? dontclick
#24 [00:06] <VoxelHead> dontclick: You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#25 [00:06] <Hsdude> ah, ok
#26 [00:06] <Hsdude> thank you so so so much for the help :D
#27 [00:07] <aetherian> heh
#28 [00:12] <EmpiresBane> it's seems like this system is in a perpetual state of being set up
#29 [00:14] <Kealper> wut
#30 [00:14] <aetherian> wutwut
#31 [00:14] <EmpiresBane> i'm constantly changing the OS on it
#32 [00:15] <EmpiresBane> so whenever i'm on it, i'm reddownloading all my favorite software
#33 [00:15] <aetherian> quit doing that then >.>
#34 [00:15] <aetherian> just run a vm
#35 [00:16] <EmpiresBane> it can barely run like this, I doubt a vm would be very succesful
#36 [00:16] <EmpiresBane> anyways, i've decided to stick with XP
#37 [00:17] <aetherian> if you have a lesser machine
#38 [00:17] <aetherian> run a light distribution of linux
#39 [00:17] <aetherian> that's what I did if I had a netbook/old machine
#40 [00:17] <aetherian> *I'd do
#41 [00:17] <aetherian> doooo ittt
#42 [00:18] <aetherian> how good's your computer?
#43 [00:18] <EmpiresBane> this thing was built with XP in mind
#44 [00:18] <EmpiresBane> it's from 2001
#45 [00:19] <aetherian> but... how good is it?
#46 [00:19] <aetherian> ram? processor? is it a desktop?
#47 [00:19] <Kealper> let me divine it's specs
#48 [00:19] <Kealper> i'm thinking..... 1.5Ghz cpu...
#49 [00:20] <Kealper> 256mb of DIMM
#50 [00:20] <aetherian> stfu kealper
#51 [00:20] <EmpiresBane> desktop, not sure on the RAM, has a P4
#52 [00:20] <aetherian> I forget that ctcp
#53 [00:20] <Kealper> probably 8mb onboard graphics
#54 [00:20] <Kealper> 40 gig hdd?
#55 [00:20] <Sqozza> My old Pc had a p4.
#56 [00:20] <Sqozza> 3.7ghz p4/7600Gt, woo.
#57 [00:20] <EmpiresBane> a 40 and an 80
#58 [00:20] <Sqozza> CPU idled at 75. ^^
#59 [00:20] <aetherian> wait, empires, you actually have 256mb of ram?
#60 [00:20] <aetherian> check that...
#61 [00:20] <EmpiresBane> shouldn't...
#62 [00:21] <EmpiresBane> thought i had a gig
#63 [00:21] <EmpiresBane> i really hope my dad didn't put in the wrong stick...
#64 [00:21] <Kealper> i've got no idea what his specs are, i just pulled those out of thin air for the average computer from 2001 lol
#65 [00:21] <aetherian> lolwut
#66 [00:22] <aetherian> isn't there a standard ctcp command for that?
#67 [00:22] <EmpiresBane> yeah, 1GB RAM
#68 [00:22] <Kealper> aetherian: for what?
#69 [00:22] <Kealper> getting computer info? no
#70 [00:22] <Kealper> sometimes a VERSION will tell it, but not usually
#71 [00:22] <EmpiresBane> 1.61GHz Pentuim 4
#72 [00:22] <aetherian> kealper, ctcp machine me
#73 [00:22] <Kealper> dang, i was close
#74 [00:22] <aetherian> that's what, single core?
#75 [00:22] <EmpiresBane> now my other system...
#76 [00:22] <EmpiresBane> yeah
#77 [00:23] <Kealper> but after he said he had a 40 gig and an 80 i figured it probably had more ram
#78 [00:23] <aetherian> kealper: /ctcp aetherian machine
#79 [00:23] <Kealper> the 40 gig was probably the original, and it probably came with max 512mb of ram >.>
#80 [00:23] <aetherian> what did it show, roughly?
#81 [00:23] <Kealper> there is no machine ctcp
#82 [00:23] <Kealper> no response
#83 [00:23] <aetherian> o.o
#84 [00:23] * aetherian checks stuff
#84 [00:23] <Kealper> since....there is none...
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#86 [00:24] <aetherian> THERE IS DAMMIT
#87 [00:24] <Kealper> unless you set it up as a custom one, it's not defined in the standards for ctcp
#88 [00:24] <aetherian> I'm trying to customize this stuff
#89 [00:24] <aetherian> oh I found the problem
#90 [00:24] <Kealper> what the hell is with your version reply?
#91 [00:24] <aetherian> syntax error
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#93 [00:24] <miner> got a problem relating to my world... it appears to haver reset. would anyone be kind enough to help?
#94 [00:24] <aetherian> what does it show, kealper
#95 [00:24] <Mythster> :D
#96 [00:24] <Kealper> a ton of 1.4
#97 [00:25] <aetherian> oh yeah
#98 [00:25] <aetherian> I did that
#99 [00:25] <aetherian> anyway
#100 [00:25] <aetherian> ctcp machine me now
#101 [00:25] <EmpiresBane> no, help miner
#102 [00:25] <Kealper> miner: what kind of reset? like whole thing gone? or stuff magicanlly reverted back?
#103 [00:25] <EmpiresBane> i have no idea what the new bugs are
#104 [00:25] <miner> allow me to explain, you may have a laugh at my expense along the way
#105 [00:25] <aetherian> wot does it show
#106 [00:26] <Kealper> [EsperNet] CTCP Windows reply from aetherian: 6.1 [x86/1.60GHz]
#107 [00:26] <aetherian> aww
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#109 [00:26] <Kealper> my version reply is awesome
#110 [00:26] <EmpiresBane> go ahead and explain
#111 [00:26] <aetherian> haha
#112 [00:26] <Kealper> slow typer ftl
#113 [00:27] <miner> i tried to use isocraft. "copied" my world files into the jar. im guessing because it was added the the archieve it actually cut instead of pasted it. so my data folder was moved, i moved it back and ive spawned in the middle of nowhere with nothing. i am screwed?
#114 [00:27] <aetherian> I was on a dif window...
#115 [00:27] <miner> lol i was trying to word it carefully to sound less like a retard, im sure you understand
#116 [00:27] <Kealper> isocraft?
#117 [00:27] <aetherian> kealper, my ctcp time is awesome (built so that people don't spam it)
#118 [00:27] <aetherian> it is well cool
#119 [00:27] <miner> it renders your world at a bmp.
#120 [00:27] <miner> id avoid it ;)
#121 [00:27] <Kealper> oh
#122 [00:28] <Kealper> and yes....you could be screwed...what jar did you put it in to?
#123 [00:28] <miner> the one which came with isohunt
#124 [00:28] <miner> required to make the render
#125 [00:28] <Kealper> isohunt.....muscle memory typing?
#126 [00:28] <miner> the files were copied back and forward. nothing was ran
#127 [00:28] <miner> lol isocraft :/
#128 [00:28] <miner> correct
#129 [00:28] * Kealper eyes miner suspiciously
#129 [00:29] <miner> im in the uk, gotta get my american tv somehow
#130 [00:29] * EmpiresBane pokes Kealper in the eye
#130 [00:29] <EmpiresBane> everyone does it
#131 [00:29] <Kealper> i use eztv...i'm in the us, gotta get my BBC UK programming somehow :O
#132 [00:29] <miner> haha exactly
#133 [00:29] <miner> a fair exchange of goods
#134 [00:29] <Kealper> (i'm dead serious lol)
#135 [00:29] <EmpiresBane> BBC has US programming now
#136 [00:30] <Kealper> BBC America is garbage compared to the UK versions though
#137 [00:30] <miner> would moving data folder and moving it back cause things to mess up like that?
#138 [00:30] <EmpiresBane> but they have a cool commercial
#139 [00:30] <Kealper> miner: it might have got corrupt durring the move :/
#140 [00:30] <miner> literally my worse nightmare
#141 [00:30] <miner> i pasted it godamn, why did it copy
#142 [00:31] <miner> cut*
#143 [00:31] <Kealper> :/
#144 [00:31] <miner> that was irish
#145 [00:31] <miner> i copied it, why did it cut*
#146 [00:31] <Kealper> is there a level.dat in it?
#147 [00:31] <Kealper> it being the world folder
#148 [00:32] <miner> 1lb
#149 [00:32] <miner> 1kb*
#150 [00:32] <Kealper> yeah, it's a small file, but super important
#151 [00:32] <miner> its there
#152 [00:32] <Kealper> check out MCEdit, that might be able to recover what is left of the map :/
#153 [00:33] <miner> downloading now
#154 [00:33] <miner> im mad but the guy ive been building with for 3 days will be madder haha
#155 [00:33] <miner> although he suggested the programme... my error :/
#156 [00:35] <EmpiresBane> ew....
#157 [00:35] <EmpiresBane> "programme"
#158 [00:35] <EmpiresBane> it's just program
#159 [00:35] <EmpiresBane> that's the correct way to say it
#160 [00:36] <Kealper> english 1.0: programme
#161 [00:36] <EmpiresBane> that's why we upgraded
#162 [00:36] <Kealper> lol
#163 [00:37] <Kealper> speaking of that....is it bad that i watch so much BBC/Nat Geo/Ch4 that i am incapable of noticing if i am watching an american or british show anymore, and don't notice the spelling differences unless someone points them out? lol
#164 [00:38] <EmpiresBane> yes
#165 [00:38] <Kealper> :<
#166 [00:38] <EmpiresBane> show some pride
#167 [00:38] * Kealper loves documentaries
#167 [00:38] <EmpiresBane> laugh at other people's spellings
#168 [00:39] <Kealper> amurkun way ft(l/w)?
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#170 [00:39] <miner> its late here, stop starting wars
#171 [00:39] <miner> :)
#172 [00:40] <miner> im in this APPLICATION but isnt looking good
#173 [00:40] <Kealper> if america knew how to do that, we wouldn't be in like over 10 trillion dollars of debt -.-
#174 [00:40] <Kealper> O.o
#175 [00:40] <Kealper> loads of stuff mising where it shouldn't be?
#176 [00:40] <billmarcy> anyone looking for a good server?
#177 [00:40] <billmarcy> Check out frizzard.no-ip.org!
#178 [00:40] <billmarcy> its fancy:)
#179 [00:40] <Kealper> billmarcy: do that again and it's a perminant ban
#180 [00:40] <billmarcy> oh suckk :x
#181 [00:40] <miner> i had a single player world and a multiplayer one
#182 [00:40] <billmarcy> sozz
#183 [00:41] <Kealper> /join #smp for that
#184 [00:41] <miner> the single seems to be fine
#185 [00:41] <miner> cant really see anything on the multi though
#186 [00:41] <Kealper> miner: that sounds pretty dire :/
#187 [00:42] <EmpiresBane> i'm pretty sure it's "permanent"
#188 [00:42] <Kealper> pernimant
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#190 [00:45] <AndrewPH> n673, I like your hostmask
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#192 [00:53] <miner> well im going to cry myself to sleep
#193 [00:53] <miner> thanks for the help regardless
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#195 [00:57] <aetherian> lalala...lu-lahhh
#196 [00:58] <n673> AndrewPH, :3
#197 [01:00] <Kealper> n673: your hostname teases me greatly because i do not have access to rdns atm on this server i'm using :<
#198 [01:00] <n673> Kealper, oh its legit
#199 [01:00] <n673> you are jelous :3
#200 [01:01] <Kealper> kealper@txrn.net would be pretty epic...but alas...rdns has to be enabled by the guy who pays the bills for the server :/
#201 [01:02] <n673> some tlds have an MX record
#202 [01:02] <n673> so you cal litterally send mail to guy@tld
#203 [01:02] <AndrewPH> that's not too uncommon
#204 [01:02] <Kealper> wow.... admin@com would be pretty epic
#205 [01:03] <Kealper> a lot of sites would not even accept that, because their regex wants a @*.* lol
#206 [01:03] <n673> yep
#207 [01:03] <AndrewPH> Kealper, only shit sites use regex for email verification
#208 [01:04] <AndrewPH> the best verification is forcing them to verify via email
#209 [01:04] <Kealper> i need to create my own tld....then i can be awesome
#210 [01:04] <n673> the best domain i ever saw was gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat
#211 [01:04] <n673> people dont realize .cat is a tld
#212 [01:04] <Kealper> AndrewPH: yeah, the best way is to just not use any check at all, fire off an email to the email supplied, if they confirm, it's legit
#213 [01:04] <n673> so they think its some kind of ircd spoof
#214 [01:04] <AndrewPH> n673, lolwut
#215 [01:05] <Kealper> but many webmasters smoke chode and have it use regex to follow guidelines -.-
#216 [01:05] <n673> the best way is to fuck off with "confirmation emails" entirely
#217 [01:05] <n673> they are just annoying, please stop
#218 [01:05] <n673> they dont stop spammers
#219 [01:06] <Kealper> my fucking sister went away for 4 days
#220 [01:06] <aetherian> and thus begins my lag
#221 [01:06] <Kealper> and left her fucking dog here
#222 [01:06] <aetherian> and I don't want to delve into the structure of that sentence kealper o.o
#223 [01:06] <aetherian> hmm, I get 450-500 KBps downloading whilst doing all my normal stuff on the computer
#224 [01:07] <aetherian> not bad
#225 [01:07] <aetherian> heya ItsCriminal
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#228 [01:09] <the_late_man> I knew I'd DC :D
#229 [01:10] <Kealper> i love how like...half of the internet just went down
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#231 [01:10] <aetherian> wheee
#232 [01:11] <aetherian> I should probably go wire myself in, huh.
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#234 [01:11] <the_late_man> wheeeeeee
#235 [01:11] <Kealper> are you friggin serious?
#236 [01:11] <Kealper> holy crap
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#238 [01:11] <Kealper> wired
#239 [01:11] <Kealper> nao
#240 [01:12] <Sword> ohai kealper
#241 [01:12] <Kealper> ello
#242 [01:12] <Sword> i still haven't forwarded my port
#243 [01:13] <Kealper> o.o
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#246 [01:14] <Kealper> aetherian how close are you to your router?
#247 [01:15] <BadNetMan> ehh
#248 [01:15] <BadNetMan> lesse
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#250 [01:15] <the_late_man> with going through walls?
#251 [01:15] <Kealper> i don't want the exact distance, jus tare you a few rooms away or at the other end of a large house?
#252 [01:16] <Kealper> damnit
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#256 [01:29] <aetherian> okay
#257 [01:29] <aetherian> there
#258 [01:29] <aetherian> Kealper: upon many failures with a mere 12 inch measuring thing, and after using the pythagorean theorem, the distance is roughly 48'
#259 [01:29] <aetherian> :D
#260 [01:30] <aetherian> [/spam]
#261 [01:30] <Kealper> !wiki pythagorean theorem
#262 [01:30] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_theorem
#263 [01:30] <GreyBot> In mathematics, the Pythagorean theorem or Pythagoras' theorem is a relation in Euclidean geometry among the three sides of a right triangle (right-angled triangle). In terms of areas, it states:
#264 [01:30] <aetherian> a^2+b^2=c^2
#265 [01:30] <aetherian> I'm upstairs, and had to measure around my staircase/downstairs
#266 [01:31] <aetherian> oh yeah, and it's going through a few walls.
#267 [01:31] <Kealper> oh....i was wiking it because i thought you didn't know and just threw that in there to sound cool
#268 [01:31] <aetherian> thought I didn't know what
#269 [01:31] <aetherian> >:
#270 [01:31] <Kealper> what the pythkasdfsd theorem was
#271 [01:31] <aetherian> who the hell doesn't know the pythagorean theorem is
#272 [01:32] <aetherian> I learned that before middle school, for odd's sake
#273 [01:32] <Kealper> idk, that's why i was being so snyde about it doing the wiki O.o
#274 [01:32] <aetherian> ass
#275 [01:32] <aetherian> so yeah, there's your answer, now to resume the dl
#276 [01:32] <aetherian> DC, ayway!
#277 [01:33] <aetherian> (my sister's pissed I'm lagging up her internet)
#278 [01:33] <Kealper> torrent?
#279 [01:33] <aetherian> :)
#280 [01:34] <aetherian> no, not torrent
#281 [01:34] <aetherian> the downloader is... uh...
#282 [01:34] <Kealper> oh....i was about to say stop being a noob and cap your upload speed
#283 [01:34] <Kealper> a p2p downloader?
#284 [01:34] <Kealper> i hate those >.>
#285 [01:34] <aetherian> I'm downloading a game, btw
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#287 [01:35] <Kealper> some MMOs actually use p2p downloaders that don't have a capped upload or a way to cap them....like that Blizzard Downloader..that thing makes me nerdrage all the way
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#289 [01:36] <aetherian> it's using some pando thing
#290 [01:36] <Kealper> i think you're DoSing your router...
#291 [01:36] <Kealper> oh god pando media booster
#292 [01:36] <Kealper> kill it with fire
#293 [01:36] <aetherian> haha
#294 [01:36] <aetherian> I would...
#295 [01:36] <aetherian> actually, I'm not DoSing the router
#296 [01:36] <aetherian> well sorta
#297 [01:36] <aetherian> but it's someone else doing the uploading
#298 [01:37] <aetherian> so I guess I'm technically /being/ DoSed
#299 [01:37] <aetherian> but it's paused for now, anyway
#300 [01:39] <aetherian> :)
#301 [01:40] * Kealper eats jelly beans
#301 [01:40] <AndrewPH> wtf IS pando media booster
#302 [01:40] * aetherian stabs kealper
#302 [01:40] <aetherian> MINE
#303 [01:42] <aetherian> >:O
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#305 [01:44] <aetherian> heya jake
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#307 [01:46] <aetherian> heya barry
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#309 [01:48] <aetherian> hey ordy
#310 [01:51] <aetherian> nobody says hi anymore ;_;
#311 [01:54] <aetherian> cough cough
#312 [01:54] <aetherian> I'm tempted to abuse greybot just to stir up the channel =\
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#314 [01:57] <aetherian> so... hello deem
#315 [01:57] <aetherian> what can I get for you today
#316 [01:57] <aetherian> a grilled latte with a side of sticky, dripping sarcasm?
#317 [01:57] <deem> I´d like some Cereals
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#319 [01:57] <deem> And hello world.
#320 [01:58] <aetherian> a soggy hamburger with some cold irony thrown in, to your head?
#321 [01:58] <aetherian> oh hey LG_Legacy
#322 [01:58] <LG_Legacy> Hello
#323 [01:58] <aetherian> 'sup
#324 [01:58] <deem> What about Zynicism (or however it´s written -.-)
#325 [01:59] <aetherian> cynicism?
#326 [01:59] <aetherian> but..
#327 [01:59] <aetherian> that's simple disregarding all... atomical things
#328 [02:00] <aetherian> wouldn't you /love/ to give up all you have
#329 [02:00] <deem> oh sorry
#330 [02:00] <deem> i got distracted
#331 [02:01] <deem> cba reading all that stuff you have written, lets start over again
#332 [02:01] <deem> hello
#333 [02:01] <deem> :)
#334 [02:01] <aetherian> or how about a grilled salad with side of gooey superficial charm?
#335 [02:02] <aetherian> :)
#336 [02:02] <deem> oh hello aetherian! :)
#337 [02:03] <deem> Doctor, DOCTOR! I have the feeling everybody is ignoring me. ... ... Next Please!
#338 [02:04] <aetherian> oh, I am so dreadfully sorry for you.
#339 [02:04] <deem> Mom, look there! In the Piranha-Pool ... a skeleton! Mom? MOOOOM! :'(
#340 [02:04] <aetherian> the nerve of some people
#341 [02:04] <deem> just got up
#342 [02:05] <deem> and somehow i feel i shouldt talk/write to ppl in that stage :(
#343 [02:05] <deem> shouldn't even (who cares about the ' in the interweb however)
#344 [02:05] <aetherian> oh no, we would absolutely love to hear what you have to say
#345 [02:05] <deem> i guess not
#346 [02:05] <aetherian> you're so special, being one in 6.9 billion on this earth
#347 [02:06] <deem> did you know that it´s very certain that in this chat at least one person was born on the same day as you (in a different year tho)?
#348 [02:07] <deem> brb
#349 [02:07] <aetherian> oh sure, the might of a couple mathematicians of whom people think know their stuff is overwhelming
#350 [02:10] <deem> i had to call my mother to ask her if i really am special. she said yes! *WIN*
#351 [02:11] <aetherian> oh yes, and you'll also grow up to be anything you want.
#352 [02:11] <aetherian> did you know that?
#353 [02:12] <deem> i most probably wont grow anymore ... more like cells dieing :-/
#354 [02:12] <aetherian> oh yes, the might light of ten thousand suns may well cause your poor, poor cells to die.
#355 [02:13] <aetherian> I'm sure somewhere in the world someone truly cares about the radiation being inflicted upon you.
#356 [02:15] <deem> i hate not being able to response properly since my english is too bad :-/ - At least you care, that´s all that matters. ;)
#357 [02:15] <aetherian> oh sure, I'm all broken up about it.
#358 [02:15] <deem> i feel safe now.
#359 [02:16] <deem> thank you.
#360 [02:16] <aetherian> oh yes, I would hate to see anything... "happen" to you.
#361 [02:18] <aetherian> >:)
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#364 [02:22] <PinkFloyd> Hello, is anyone available for a question?
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#368 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> PinkFloyd - Concerning?
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#370 [02:27] <PinkFloyd> Ive got a server up and running, but Id like to move my current save over to the server and play it. The map is the same but none of my items are there. Any way to move them also?
#371 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Did you move the entire 'world' folder over?
#372 [02:27] <PinkFloyd> Yeah
#373 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Was this a MP save to MP save?
#374 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Or an SP to MP move?
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#376 [02:28] <PinkFloyd> I havent been playing that long, dont know what that means
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#378 [02:28] <the_late_man> o.o
#379 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> Did you move a single player world over to your server to play on SMP?
#380 [02:28] <PinkFloyd> Single to multi?
#381 [02:28] <PinkFloyd> Yeah
#382 [02:28] <the_late_man> oh hey pinkfloyd
#383 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, normally player inventories aren't moved over
#384 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> To work around this, before moving it over, put your stuff into chests
#385 [02:28] <the_late_man> you do know that the actual name of the guy was floyd pinkerton
#386 [02:29] <PinkFloyd> So chests are saved?
#387 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#388 [02:29] <Sword> chests are shaved
#389 [02:29] <PinkFloyd> lol
#390 [02:29] <PinkFloyd> Thanks, I'll try that
#391 [02:30] <aetherian> heh, I actually have either 6 or 7 pink floys albums
#392 [02:30] <Sword> so guys, do you find hairy chests sexy?
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#394 [02:30] <aetherian> and some floyd songs on a couple compilation records
#395 [02:30] <aetherian> Sword: no.
#396 [02:30] <Sword> also, what genre of music does pink floyd play?
#397 [02:31] <aetherian> ehh
#398 [02:31] <aetherian> it all falls into classic rock, technically
#399 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> !wiki pink floyd
#400 [02:31] <aetherian> but...
#401 [02:31] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd
#402 [02:31] <GreyBot> Pink Floyd were an English rock band who achieved worldwide success with their psychedelic and progressive rock music. Their work is marked by the use of philosophical lyrics, sonic experimentation, innovative album art, and elaborate live shows. Pink Floyd are one of the most critically acclaimed and commercially successful rock music groups of all time. It is estimated that they have
#403 [02:31] <GreyBot> sold over
#404 [02:31] <GreyBot> 200 million albums worldwide, including 74.5 million certified units in the United States.
#405 [02:31] <aetherian> moreso prog rock and psychedelic rock
#406 [02:31] <Sword> this is a pretty spiffy bot
#407 [02:32] <aetherian> do wiki for trolls, sword :3
#408 [02:32] <aetherian> biggest thing we've seen yet
#409 [02:32] <Sword> wut?
#410 [02:33] <aetherian> !wik_ troll
#411 [02:33] <aetherian> has brought the biggest spam by grey so far
#412 [02:33] <aetherian> (except one of my uses of him, arguably)
#413 [02:34] <Sword> !wiki troll
#414 [02:34] <aetherian> he turned it off, obvly
#415 [02:34] <aetherian> after I tell you a spam thing with it
#416 [02:34] <Sword> !myip
#417 [02:35] <aetherian> !help
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#419 [02:35] <Sword> reinstall? reinstall what?
#420 [02:36] <aetherian> mc
#421 [02:36] <aetherian> why do we have two things for reinstalling mc >.>
#422 [02:36] <aetherian> well, more than two
#423 [02:37] <aetherian> !reinstall
#424 [02:37] <aetherian> yep
#425 [02:37] <aetherian> I know the other, but I shan't abuse it until someone asks for help with reinstalling
#426 [02:38] <Sword> oh yeah, i gotta forward my port or somethin'
#427 [02:40] <aetherian> need help wizzat?
#428 [02:43] <genshou> crap
#429 [02:43] <genshou> playing minecraft while drunk doesn't work very well :P
#430 [02:44] <aetherian> "oh hello there mister creeper, how would you like to have a drink
#431 [02:44] <aetherian> you can join me and my friend wool over here, he's very wise"
#432 [02:46] <feenyx> ?? reinst/win
#433 [02:46] <aetherian> fail
#434 [02:46] <aetherian> ??>feenyx win/reinst
#435 [02:46] <genshou> aetherian, moar like failing to walk/build in straight lines with rare materials :s
#436 [02:47] <feenyx> aetherian: nah, it's just not answering :p
#437 [02:47] <aetherian> ?? win/reinst
#438 [02:47] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#439 [02:47] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#440 [02:47] <aetherian> ha
#441 [02:47] <feenyx> wat
#442 [02:47] <aetherian> I just don't remember the name thing
#443 [02:47] <feenyx> ?? mac/reinst
#444 [02:47] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#445 [02:47] <aetherian> but I have the commands listed on my browser haha
#446 [02:47] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#447 [02:47] <aetherian> ?? 1k
#448 [02:47] <feenyx> I do too, but in my home browser
#449 [02:47] <VoxelHead> 1k: There is a bug you will encounter if you're building suspended structures that crosses the X or Z +/- 1000 coordinate- blocks will refuse to be placed as though the area is already occupied.
#450 [02:47] <VoxelHead> 1k: To work around this, you unfortunately must build up from ground level. You can place blocks on top of other blocks at the 1000 'barrier'; just not (only) horizontally next to blocks. (This may need rewording to make more clear)
#451 [02:48] <feenyx> I'm not bold enough to have synced tabs/bookmarks/history between work and home
#452 [02:48] <genshou> hmm
#453 [02:48] <aetherian> I wanna figure out that name thing
#454 [02:48] <genshou> I've never run into that bug past the 1k
#455 [02:48] <aetherian> ??> feenyx retro
#456 [02:48] <VoxelHead> feenyx: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#457 [02:48] <VoxelHead> feenyx: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#458 [02:48] <aetherian> yay :D
#459 [02:48] <genshou> D:
#460 [02:48] <aetherian> :D
#461 [02:49] * genshou shrugs and downs that one last shot needed for stumbly goodness
#461 [02:49] <genshou> (took me 3 tries to spell "stumbly", so I really am only about one shot away :P )
#462 [02:49] <feenyx> genshou: In that case, salut!
#463 [02:49] <genshou> o/ and gn
#464 [02:50] * genshou leaves the mob grinder running since it works fine when not so sober
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#465 [02:57] <Sword> argh
#466 [02:57] <Sword> wtf, port forwarding :/
#467 [03:03] <Sword> hello?
#468 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#469 [03:04] <Sword> internet dies when i change to static ip
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#471 [03:04] <Sword> is that supposed to happen?
#472 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> What did you change to a static ip?
#473 [03:05] <aetherian> uh oh
#474 [03:05] <Sword> external ip?
#475 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> on.. the modem?
#476 [03:06] <Sword> uh...not sure. i don't know anything about this stuff
#477 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific as to what dialog box you used to change to a static ip?
#478 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> Give me steps as to what you did
#479 [03:07] <Sword> i used that portforward program for changing to static ip
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#481 [03:08] <Sword> i simply click the button to make it static without making any changes
#482 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#483 [03:09] <Sword> afterwards, it tells me that the ip is now static. i check my browser, and my browser doesn't move to any other page
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#485 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Alright, well, screw the port forwarding program.
#486 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> I've never had a good story with that thing
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#488 [03:13] <Sword> so anyways, how do i solve my problem then?
#489 [03:13] <aetherian> hey, what's up doc
#490 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Really, you don't need to set up a static ip address to run a server
#491 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#492 [03:14] <Sword> OS? Windows XP SP3
#493 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Okay, start -> run -> cmd
#494 [03:14] <PinkFloyd> Are you behind a router?
#495 [03:14] <Sword> it's open
#496 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> ipconfig at the command prompt
#497 [03:14] <Sword> done
#498 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Tell me your ip address and default gateway
#499 [03:15] <Sword> !myip
#500 [03:15] <Sword> default is 112.201.128.1
#501 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> is that what it says on there?
#502 [03:15] <Sword> yeppers
#503 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> You're... connected directly to your modem then?
#504 [03:15] <Sword> yep
#505 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Then you don't need to set up port forwarding at all
#506 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> You're not behind a router
#507 [03:16] <Sword> i've already run a server a couple of times, for hours too
#508 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> And that's why the port forwarding program, when setting up a static ip, made your internet not work
#509 [03:16] <Sword> my only problem is the externalurl.txt
#510 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> What problem?
#511 [03:17] <Sword> unless i turn my server into a public one, i can't connect to it since externalurl isn't being updated
#512 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Okay, let me ask you this, is your windows firewall up?
#513 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> firewall.cpl at the run command
#514 [03:17] <Sword> yeah
#515 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Turn it off
#516 [03:17] <Sword> should i take it down?
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#518 [03:18] <Sword> ok, it's down
#519 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Try the server again
#520 [03:20] <Sword> nope.jpg
#521 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> No?
#522 [03:20] <Sword> cmd isn't saying anything about externalurl.txt
#523 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> The server's console should tell you the URL that it generated for you
#524 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Or you can look in the directory where you have start-server.bat
#525 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> There should be an externalurl.txt there
#526 [03:22] <Sword> nothing
#527 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Nothing?
#528 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Okay, first off, what server are you trying to run?
#529 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Classic or beta?
#530 [03:22] <Sword> i erased the last entry in my externalurl.txt since it doesn't work anymore
#531 [03:22] <Sword> classic
#532 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Um, okay, delete externalurl.txt
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#534 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Restart the server
#535 [03:23] <Sword> done
#536 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a URL now?
#537 [03:23] <Sword> but the messages stop after it says "Level Saved!"
#538 [03:25] <Sword> no url's yet
#539 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy and paste the output there at pastebin.com?
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#541 [03:29] <Sword> # 16:22:55 Setting up # 16:22:55 Loading level # 16:22:56 Now accepting input on 25565 # 16:22:56 Level saved! Load: 0/32 # 16:23:56 Level saved! Load: 0/32 # 16:24:56 Level saved! Load: 0/32 # 16:25:56 Level saved! Load: 0/32 # 16:26:56 Level saved! Load: 0/32 # 16:27:56 Level saved! Load: 0/32
#542 [03:29] <Sword> hurr, that's all i'm getting
#543 [03:30] <Sword> would you like a copy of server.properties as well?
#544 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> What are you using to launch the server with?
#545 [03:30] <Sword> cmd?
#546 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> What file? What command?
#547 [03:30] <Sword> start server.bat?
#548 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#549 [03:34] <Sword> should i take down norton as well?
#550 [03:34] <Sword> although that would be quite risky...i dunno
#551 [03:34] <aetherian> norton...
#552 [03:34] <aetherian> kill it with fire
#553 [03:34] <Sword> hahaha
#554 [03:35] <aetherian> less risky that way
#555 [03:35] <aetherian> and then download some good antivir
#556 [03:35] <aetherian> and quit going to sites that would have viruses
#557 [03:35] <Sword> i have no idea what else to use
#558 [03:35] <aetherian> uhh
#559 [03:35] <aetherian> malwarebytes is something I use
#560 [03:36] <aetherian> and uh, what was the name of the other...
#561 [03:36] <aetherian> I use AVG
#562 [03:36] <Sword> i don't trust avg
#563 [03:36] <aetherian> o.o
#564 [03:36] <aetherian> why not
#565 [03:36] <Sword> then again, i've only ever seen trial versions of it
#566 [03:36] <aetherian> nonono
#567 [03:37] <aetherian> there's no "trial" version
#568 [03:37] <aetherian> there's a free version
#569 [03:37] <aetherian> which I use
#570 [03:37] <Sword> i mean, i dunno
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#572 [03:37] <Sword> yeah, free version
#573 [03:37] <aetherian> different than a trial version
#574 [03:37] <Sword> the old computer cafe i used to go to had avg
#575 [03:37] <Sword> all 50 computers had nasty viruses in them
#576 [03:37] <aetherian> and you downloaded viruses just to test it?
#577 [03:37] <aetherian> ah
#578 [03:38] <Sword> nope
#579 [03:38] <aetherian> well, if they hadn't ever been scanned by the thing
#580 [03:38] <Sword> random customers carelessly connect infected usb drives
#581 [03:38] <aetherian> nice alliteration
#582 [03:38] <aetherian> anyway
#583 [03:38] <Sword> and the whole thing spreads to the other computers like wildfire
#584 [03:38] <aetherian> yes well
#585 [03:39] <aetherian> granted
#586 [03:39] <aetherian> not much one can do about usb viruses
#587 [03:39] <Sword> seriously, i've lost count how many times they've reformatted
#588 [03:39] <aetherian> I mean, it's damn program
#589 [03:39] <aetherian> it can only do so much
#590 [03:39] <aetherian> it is well better than norton
#591 [03:39] <aetherian> and besides
#592 [03:39] <aetherian> who the hell uses only one antivir
#593 [03:39] <Sword> but yeah, norton is starting to become a pest
#594 [03:39] <Sword> 2009 and 2010 versions were good, though
#595 [03:40] * aetherian laughs
#595 [03:40] <aetherian> hardly
#596 [03:40] <Sword> it did keep my pc clean and didn't slow it down much
#597 [03:40] <aetherian> I've also heard good things about/used a different antivir thing...
#598 [03:40] <aetherian> and what the hell, Sword
#599 [03:40] <Sword> 2011 keeps on opening my default browser
#600 [03:41] <Sword> hold on, back to lunch
#601 [03:41] <aetherian> "it kept my pc clean." Right, either that or you stopped going to torrent sights
#602 [03:41] <Sword> no, man
#603 [03:42] <Sword> i got 100+ gb torrents with that thing on
#604 [03:42] <Sword> movies, games, even...seedy stuff
#605 [03:42] <aetherian> ...seedy
#606 [03:42] <aetherian> given that all bittorrent is seeding
#607 [03:43] <aetherian> that meant nothing
#608 [03:43] <Sword> not the right word, but it'll do
#609 [03:43] <Sword> i see what i did there
#610 [03:43] <aetherian> you mean unethical stuff?
#611 [03:43] <aetherian> dude
#612 [03:43] <aetherian> you gotta stop it with the necrophillic homosexual furry stuff >.>
#613 [03:44] <Sword> furry? i kill furries with fire, no questions asked
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#615 [03:44] <aetherian> hey Fuzzmz
#616 [03:46] <aetherian> gee
#617 [03:46] <aetherian> talk about rejection
#618 [03:46] <Sword> and if by homosexual, you mean lesbians, then yes
#619 [03:46] <Sword> but anyways, i just need help with my freaking server
#620 [03:46] <Sword> well, that was rude
#621 [03:46] <Sword> wut?
#622 [03:47] <Sword> checking a user's profile means i get banned?
#623 [03:47] <aetherian> win
#624 [03:47] <aetherian> uhh
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#628 [03:48] <aetherian> ow ow ow
#629 [03:48] <aetherian> oh hey Unforgiven
#630 [03:48] <Unforgiven> Damn stalker
#631 [03:48] <Unforgiven> >.>
#632 [03:49] <Unforgiven> Why isn't nickserv available?
#633 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> 440: Services is currently down.
#634 [03:50] <aetherian> wha
#635 [03:50] <aetherian> they are?
#636 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
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#638 [03:51] <Sqozza> GreyVulpine: /join #services
#639 [03:51] <GreyVulpine> ?
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#641 [03:51] <Sqozza> Join it when services are up
#642 [03:51] <Sqozza> instakick
#643 [03:51] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#644 [03:51] <Sqozza> http://combatarms.nexon.net/ClansRankings/PlayerProfile.aspx?user=LuFFy___
#645 [03:52] <GreyVulpine> Bleh.
#646 [03:52] <Sqozza> ^ Legit player
#647 [03:52] <GreyVulpine> That's still around?
#648 [03:52] <Sqozza> More headshots with a pistol than shots fired.
#649 [03:52] <Sqozza> Totally legit.
#650 [03:52] <Sqozza> ._.
#651 [03:52] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#651 [03:52] <aetherian> lmao
#652 [03:52] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure..
#653 [03:52] * aetherian looks
#653 [03:52] <Sqozza> Look at his rank/join date
#654 [03:52] <aetherian> legit
#655 [03:52] <Sqozza> Been hacking for nearly two years.
#656 [03:52] <aetherian> definitely
#657 [03:52] <Sqozza> aetherian: y u trol so well
#658 [03:53] <aetherian> don'tchu be hatin' on them crackers
#659 [03:54] <Sqozza> Some weapons, he has more headshots than kills.
#660 [03:54] <Sword> nutshots? seriously, who counts nutshots?
#661 [03:54] <Sqozza> Sword: This game.
#662 [03:54] <aetherian> I prefer to call them groin shots...
#663 [03:54] <Sword> i have lost
#664 [03:54] <Sqozza> Seriously though
#665 [03:54] <aetherian> bit.ly/wonthegame
#666 [03:54] <Sword> you also lost
#667 [03:54] <Sword> no
#668 [03:54] <Sqozza> How the fuck do you get more headshots than kills?
#669 [03:54] <Sqozza> IT DOESN'T WORK.
#670 [03:54] <Sword> bullet goes through?
#671 [03:54] <Sword> FUCKIN' BULLETS
#672 [03:54] <Sqozza> Headshot = instant kill
#673 [03:54] <Sword> HOW DO THEY WORK?
#674 [03:54] <Sqozza> With any gun.
#675 [03:55] <Sqozza> and/or melee weapon
#676 [03:56] <Unforgiven> Double headshot?
#677 [03:56] <Sqozza> Unforgiven: More headshots than kills.
#678 [03:56] <aetherian> double headshot all the way
#679 [03:56] <Sqozza> Headshot = kill.
#680 [03:56] <Sqozza> Double headshot = 2 kills.
#681 [03:56] <Unforgiven> Hmm
#682 [03:56] <aetherian> there's double comboes in some games
#683 [03:56] <aetherian> ie bugs
#684 [03:56] <Unforgiven> Dunno, does punching someone in the head with a gun count as a headshot but not a kill?
#685 [03:57] <Sqozza> No.
#686 [03:57] <Unforgiven> Damn you.
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#688 [03:59] <aetherian> aww, doc left
#689 [03:59] <aetherian> wtf wtf wtf o.o.o
#690 [03:59] <Unforgiven> Yay nickserv worked
#691 [03:59] <Sword> how about punching a guy with bullets?
#692 [03:59] <aetherian> lol LG_Legacy AuBot and mollstam
#693 [03:59] <Sword> wtf?
#694 [04:00] <aetherian> guys
#695 [04:00] <aetherian> spam away
#696 [04:00] <aetherian> aubot won't ban you
#697 [04:00] <aetherian> :O
#698 [04:00] <Sword> why not?
#699 [04:00] <aetherian> she's not opped
#700 [04:00] <LG_Legacy> She? Ban?
#701 [04:00] <aetherian> LG_Legacy: aubot bans people who spam, rememberrr
#702 [04:00] <LG_Legacy> Why is there a bot now?
#703 [04:00] <Sword> shh! they can hear us!
#704 [04:00] <LG_Legacy> \Uh, i haven't been here for a week or two
#705 [04:01] <aetherian> !help
#706 [04:01] <aetherian> this guy
#707 [04:01] <LG_Legacy> !client
#708 [04:01] <LG_Legacy> No
#709 [04:01] <aetherian> 3+messages in 1.5 or less seconds
#710 [04:01] <aetherian> and 10 second ban
#711 [04:01] <LG_Legacy> !tutorial
#712 [04:01] <LG_Legacy> !kick Aubot
#713 [04:01] <Sword> wtf aubot
#714 [04:01] <LG_Legacy> >:(
#715 [04:01] <Sword> hahaha
#716 [04:01] <LG_Legacy> !kick Glados
#717 [04:01] <LG_Legacy> Hilarious
#718 [04:01] <Sword> where is your op now?
#719 [04:01] <aetherian> ??> LG_Legacy retro
#720 [04:01] <VoxelHead> LG_Legacy: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#721 [04:01] <VoxelHead> LG_Legacy: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#722 [04:02] <aetherian> that one too
#723 [04:02] <aetherian> and lastly
#724 [04:02] * LG_Legacy kicked Sword from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Right here :P)
#725 [04:02] <aetherian> !wiki irc_bot
#726 [04:02] <Sqozza> So yeah, try and explain that guys stats.
#727 [04:02] <aetherian> !wiki robot
#728 [04:02] <aetherian> uhh
#729 [04:02] <Sqozza> There is no possible fucking explanation.
#730 [04:02] <Sqozza> At all.
#731 [04:02] <aetherian> shoot
#732 [04:02] <aetherian> where did it go
#733 [04:02] <Unforgiven> Fucked up databases?
#734 [04:02] <aetherian> oh right
#735 [04:02] <Sqozza> Unforgiven: For multiple guns?
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#737 [04:02] <aetherian> GreyVulpine turned off GreyBot.
#738 [04:03] <Sqozza> And they've remained like that for months.
#739 [04:03] <Unforgiven> Yes Sqozza :3
#740 [04:03] <Sqozza> And with a rank like that...
#741 [04:03] <Sqozza> ._.
#742 [04:03] <aetherian> hey Sword
#743 [04:03] <Sword> what did i miss?
#744 [04:03] <aetherian> the best joke I have heard in my life
#745 [04:03] <aetherian> no joke
#746 [04:03] <Sword> ok
#747 [04:03] <Sqozza> I have the shortest joke ever.
#748 [04:04] <Sqozza> "Dwarf Shortage"
#749 [04:04] <Sword> i was dead, not big surprise
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#751 [04:04] <Sqozza> Gogo double meanings.
#752 [04:04] <aetherian> hurrr hurrr
#753 [04:05] <aetherian> two men walked into a bar
#754 [04:05] <Sword> and then men was zombies
#755 [04:05] <aetherian> the concussion from slamming right into it caused them to have to go the hospital for several days, and they were never the same again.
#756 [04:06] <aetherian> *badu-
#757 [04:07] <Unforgiven> Cartograph.exe has stopped working, who are you kidding...
#758 [04:07] <aetherian> nobody
#759 [04:07] <Sword> wtf, i've been running my server for 30 minutes
#760 [04:08] <Sword> still no externalurl.txt
#761 [04:08] <aetherian> o.o
#762 [04:08] <aetherian> I...
#763 [04:08] <LG_Legacy> Shits broken
#764 [04:08] <aetherian> I don't get an externalurl.txt
#765 [04:08] <aetherian> o.o
#766 [04:08] <Sword> inorite?
#767 [04:09] <aetherian> wh-
#768 [04:09] <aetherian> why...
#769 [04:09] <Sword> i can't connect to my server since it's private
#770 [04:09] <aetherian> why do you need one?
#771 [04:09] <aetherian> ohh
#772 [04:09] <aetherian> c-c-c-classic?
#773 [04:09] <Sword> yeah
#774 [04:09] <Sword> c-c-c-c-c-yeahhhh
#775 [04:09] <Sword> i do cocaiiinnnneee
#776 [04:09] <aetherian> eh
#777 [04:10] <aetherian> ah-actually
#778 [04:10] <Unforgiven> Do drugs, kids!
#779 [04:10] <Unforgiven> :D
#780 [04:10] <Sword> i'm just a rock n' roll clown
#781 [04:10] <aetherian> it's just s-sorta c-c-cold in here
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#783 [04:10] * aetherian is listening to the music from katamari
#783 [04:10] <aetherian> best vg music evar
#784 [04:10] <Sleelin> hello
#785 [04:11] <aetherian> I j-just wish I had a p-playstation
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#787 [04:11] <Sword> eh, i still think chrono trigger's music is the best
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#789 [04:11] <Shadow386> I forgot something else I think would be useful GreyVulpine
#790 [04:11] <Sword> you're in the internet, aetherian
#791 [04:11] <aetherian> r-r-really?
#792 [04:11] <Sword> go get yourself an emulator and some roms
#793 [04:11] <Sword> no, not really
#794 [04:11] <aetherian> I... I... I...
#795 [04:11] <Sword> you're in the toilet
#796 [04:12] <Shadow386> Right click a player, or within 5 blocks of a player, type /trade [player] and trading menu comes up :D
#797 [04:12] <aetherian> I don't want to play w-with a keyboard
#798 [04:12] <Sword> play with a drum kit
#799 [04:12] <aetherian> o-o-o.o
#800 [04:12] <Sword> *ba-dum tiss*
#801 [04:13] <LG_Legacy> Wait what? Trading?
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#803 [04:13] <aetherian> th-that would be k-kinda useful
#804 [04:15] <mollstam> aetherian: what did I do? :O
#805 [04:16] <aetherian> y-y-you got unopped by ch-chanserv
#806 [04:16] <mollstam> they're on to us!
#807 [04:16] <Sword> DO A BARREL ROLL
#808 [04:16] <Sword> EVASIVE MANEUVERS
#809 [04:17] <Sword> uh, did i spell that right?
#810 [04:17] <aetherian> d-d-dammit, s-slippy
#811 [04:17] <aetherian> a-another enemy on your tail?
#812 [04:18] <Sword> dammit, i'm gonna play fallout
#813 [04:18] <Sword> stupid server
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#815 [04:19] <aetherian> w-w-well guys
#816 [04:20] <aetherian> I'm leaving tomorrow for the weekend
#817 [04:20] <aetherian> but I should be on before then
#818 [04:20] <aetherian> but yeah, night
#819 [04:20] <Sword> oh wait, gonna install something first
#820 [04:20] <aetherian> I hope it doesn't rain
#821 [04:20] <aetherian> I'm off to go read a happy book in bed :)
#822 [04:20] <Netu> Welp, today is officially the day I have to decide on a new host for my server. Any last recommendations? Gotta be cheap, able to host up to 15-20, and not horrible. :P
#823 [04:20] <aetherian> ie metamorphisis
#824 [04:21] <aetherian> ^butchered spelling
#825 [04:21] <aetherian> Netu: buy a server :O
#826 [04:21] <Netu> I am poor. Hence the money issue.
#827 [04:21] <aetherian> oh then shit man
#828 [04:21] <aetherian> ain't no cheap way's gonna get you 15-20 people
#829 [04:22] <Netu> Well, I pay $30 a month now and that is acceptable.
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#831 [04:22] <Netu> But I gotta move from these guys because they are awful.
#832 [04:22] <aetherian> and what are you getting for $30?
#833 [04:22] <Sword> pron, obviously
#834 [04:22] <Netu> Correct.
#835 [04:22] <aetherian> necrophilia?
#836 [04:23] <Sword> what is it with you and necrophilia?
#837 [04:23] <Sword> can't it be about something else?
#838 [04:23] <Sword> like clown porn, for example
#839 [04:23] <aetherian> is that a poorly disguised flame bait?
#840 [04:23] <Sword> not rly, not interested in flamewars rite nao
#841 [04:24] <aetherian> ...hmm
#842 [04:24] <aetherian> well, night anyway.
#843 [04:36] <Unforgiven> This world is a chunk error waiting to happen
#844 [04:37] <Sword> do something about it
#845 [04:39] <Unforgiven> And let it happen?
#846 [04:40] <Sword> it's up to you
#847 [04:47] <Shadow386> LG_Legacy yes, trading
#848 [04:47] <Shadow386> sorry, was afk after that lol
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#857 [05:22] <Draglems1> Hey, is there anyway i can control the biomes i get?
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#859 [05:36] <Netu> Draglems1, if you are still there: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=76184
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#861 [05:42] <Draglems1> Is that a mod?
#862 [05:42] <Draglems1> *checks*
#863 [05:42] <Draglems1> Yeahh,, I can't install mods.
#864 [05:50] <Netu> Aww. Alas.
#865 [05:50] <Netu> That is the only way to configure biomes, I fear.
#866 [05:50] <Netu> (Mods, that is.)
#867 [05:50] <Netu> (Not that particular mod.)
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#873 [06:16] <SlowDeath> Hey. I need a little help with something id someone nows a bit about bukkit and plugins.
#874 [06:17] <SlowDeath> If*
#875 [06:17] <Netu> I'm willing to help you, but also #bukkit
#876 [06:17] <Netu> What's up?
#877 [06:18] <SlowDeath> Ok. I am trying to get a server up and running but running into a few issues...
#878 [06:18] <Netu> Oh, frick. I've not set Bukkit up on a server as of yet. I've only done the programming side of things. Rofl. :P
#879 [06:18] <SlowDeath> Such as cuboid.. I guess its the same thing as having worldguard and world edit correct?
#880 [06:18] <Netu> What's wrong with Cuboid?
#881 [06:18] <Netu> Worldguard/edit do different things than cuboid
#882 [06:19] <SlowDeath> Ahh.
#883 [06:19] <SlowDeath> I was use to using hmod.. So this bukit is throwing me off.
#884 [06:19] <Netu> What are you trying to accomplish on your server? Setting up protected areas? If yes, then you want Cuboid for sure.
#885 [06:19] <SlowDeath> Yes thast what im trying to do.
#886 [06:19] <Netu> Well, the plugins are basically identical, and configuring them is too
#887 [06:19] <SlowDeath> Protect a spawn location.
#888 [06:19] <Netu> Okay then, yeah, grab Cuboid
#889 [06:19] <SlowDeath> Dose it wor with bukkit?
#890 [06:19] <Netu> You can protect spawn with the default server properties though of course
#891 [06:20] <Netu> Just by changing spawn-protection=0 to something more than 0. :P
#892 [06:20] <GLaDOS> SlowDeath: no choice, bukkit or no cuboid
#893 [06:20] <Netu> That's not true. I have Cuboid working, happily, on my hMod server.
#894 [06:20] <GLaDOS> or what Netu just said
#895 [06:20] <GLaDOS> ...
#896 [06:20] <Netu> (I most definitely support Bukkit though.)
#897 [06:20] <SlowDeath> So cuboid has its own plugin?
#898 [06:20] <Netu> (And want everyone using it. xD)
#899 [06:20] <GLaDOS> 4HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX
#900 [06:21] <Netu> LOL. :P
#901 [06:21] <Netu> Correct, SlowDeath, Cuboid is a plugin.
#902 [06:21] <GLaDOS> link to working version or gtfo
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#904 [06:21] <Netu> Technically I still run hMod 125. :\ I just update everything myself.
#905 [06:21] <GLaDOS> liiiink
#906 [06:21] <SlowDeath> Thanks Im woring off a deticated server in a data center so this is a pain in my ass lol.
#907 [06:22] <Netu> I guess I could compile and upload it. Do you really want it?
#908 [06:22] <SlowDeath> I'm sure i can find it on the Bukit fourms somewhere. :)
#909 [06:22] <GLaDOS> yes plz!
#910 [06:22] <Netu> Rofl, all right. :P Give me a bit.
#911 [06:23] <Netu> GLaDOS: Why have you not used BuxVille's or other's hMods? I've heard they're good. (Downloading now.)
#912 [06:23] <GLaDOS> hm
#913 [06:24] <Netu> Sometimes I hate Eclipse. Well, I always do, but sometimes more so than other times.
#914 [06:26] <GLaDOS> why do you think i use cmd line
#915 [06:26] <Netu> Wow, impressive
#916 [06:26] <GLaDOS> thanks
#917 [06:26] <Netu> I've been doing Java for...not long, so no way at all I could dream of doing such things
#918 [06:27] <Netu> I very much need to be baby sat while coding. :(
#919 [06:27] <GLaDOS> hint: use vim
#920 [06:27] <GLaDOS> gvim i mean
#921 [06:27] <GLaDOS> when you retire from studio apps
#922 [06:27] <GLaDOS> and compile using command line
#923 [06:28] <Netu> That will probably never happen. I just have a history degree and am jobless. I code just for the lulz.
#924 [06:28] <GLaDOS> then, once confident, move onto all cmd li- ah
#925 [06:28] <Netu> Yeah. Can't afford formal training, not sure if I even want it, so I just...do what I have to do to make my website, servers, etc., work
#926 [06:28] <GLaDOS> to be honest, i code using ssh
#927 [06:28] <GLaDOS> windows is shit with cmd.exe
#928 [06:29] <GLaDOS> :3
#929 [06:29] <Netu> Oh, I don't blame you
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#931 [06:29] <Netu> While this is uploading, if you're not aware of this page: http://forum.hey0.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=21
#932 [06:30] <Netu> Seems lots of folks have forked hMod and made their own versions
#933 [06:30] <Netu> I can imagine they're not awful
#934 [06:30] <Netu> I mean, even I have all of my plugins working, from Cuboid to Hungry to Craftizens to Borderlands. All on MySQL and everything.
#935 [06:30] <Netu> (That's why I've not switched to Bukkit.)
#936 [06:30] <SlowDeath> Oh?
#937 [06:30] <Netu> (No reason, in all honesty. Everything's working fine. :\)
#938 [06:31] <SlowDeath> Your hmod works on the latest minecraft release?
#939 [06:31] <Netu> (And I'm most definitely a "Don't fix what isn't broken" kind of guy.)
#940 [06:31] <Netu> Correct, SlowDeath.
#941 [06:31] <SlowDeath> Hmmm.
#942 [06:31] <SlowDeath> Thats worth looking into.
#943 [06:31] <Netu> It's all stolen from Buxville's upload
#944 [06:31] <SlowDeath> Hmod is easier to run that bukkit.
#945 [06:31] <Netu> Very similar to it. All I've fixed is the milk bucket issue, duplicating buckets...a few other things
#946 [06:32] <Netu> Oh, added a OBorder class to get Borderlands workign again...
#947 [06:32] <Netu> working*
#948 [06:32] <Netu> Nothing serious.
#949 [06:32] <SlowDeath> See... That is the stuff i need to learn...
#950 [06:32] <SlowDeath> Permission to p2p you Netu for a sec?
#951 [06:33] <Netu> It's the stuff I am still learning.
#952 [06:33] <Netu> Hmm, Slow, I'm uploading it if that's what you're asking
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#954 [06:33] <SlowDeath> p2p= Person 2 person chat.
#955 [06:33] <Netu> Oh, rofl, I thought you wanted to sandy warez me or something. But yeah sure go ahead.
#956 [06:33] <SlowDeath> Lol.
#957 [06:34] <Netu> I'm usually fine with SMS but you kids and your crazy hacks.
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#961 [06:48] <Netu> Anyone have any server hosting recommendations?
#962 [06:48] <AG_Clinton> Location, budget, what you're wanting would help.
#963 [06:49] <Netu> Location, Eastern US. Budget, upwards $30, so a VPS. I'd love root access, Debian Lenny, anything pre-installed is fine. Enough RAM to support no more than 20 players.
#964 [06:49] <AG_Clinton> You'd be wanting ~1.5-2GB of RAM.
#965 [06:49] <AG_Clinton> Which is difficult for $30
#966 [06:50] <Netu> That's why I'm having troubles. Haha.
#967 [06:50] <Netu> At no time do we really hit more than 15 online; I am just preparing for any potential influx.
#968 [06:50] <AG_Clinton> I couldn't hit that price point myself. Umm hmm.
#969 [06:50] <AG_Clinton> Let me check one place.
#970 [06:50] <Netu> Okaly doke.
#971 [06:50] <Netu> Thanks for any and all help AG_Clinton
#972 [06:51] <AG_Clinton> I really don't like them, but http://burst.net/linvps.shtml
#973 [06:51] <AG_Clinton> I'd honestly shoot for premium.
#974 [06:51] <AG_Clinton> But once you do that, you could actually consider other decent hosts.
#975 [06:52] <AG_Clinton> Scranton, PA.
#976 [06:52] <AG_Clinton> Lot of Minecraft hosts I've seen resell them.
#977 [06:52] <AG_Clinton> So I guess it works.
#978 [06:53] <Netu> So you would recommend a Premium VPS Package #2, then, probably?
#979 [06:53] <Netu> I simply couldn't do #3--too expensive
#980 [06:53] <Netu> I am a laid off student. :P
#981 [06:53] <AG_Clinton> Well.
#982 [06:53] <AG_Clinton> I suppose.
#983 [06:53] <AG_Clinton> It would probably hit ~15
#984 [06:53] <AG_Clinton> But probably not ~20
#985 [06:54] <AG_Clinton> Depends on what you actually run.
#986 [06:54] <AG_Clinton> Vanilla, mobs, etc.
#987 [06:54] <Netu> Vanilla as can be for the player, but I run enough plugins for me to manage things and create dungeons and the like.
#988 [06:54] <Netu> (We're an RP server. So no / commands.)
#989 [06:55] <Netu> ...Blah blah blah. No, I don't think we require all that much stuff.
#990 [06:56] <AG_Clinton> If you got some good donations in at some point, try looking up Linode or RapidXen possibly.
#991 [06:56] <AG_Clinton> I use them for offsite stuff in case something catastrophic went down.
#992 [06:56] <Netu> Well I could afford a Linode 768. But I am sure that is too little memory, yes?
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#994 [06:58] <AG_Clinton> Yes.
#995 [06:58] <AG_Clinton> 1GB is about ~15
#996 [06:58] <AG_Clinton> In my experience.
#997 [06:59] <AG_Clinton> We used to offer that about $30
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#999 [06:59] <AG_Clinton> But then again.
#1000 [06:59] <AG_Clinton> When we tried it out.
#1001 [06:59] <AG_Clinton> It was vanilla.
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#1003 [06:59] <AG_Clinton> No mods or such.
#1004 [06:59] <AG_Clinton> Mobs turned off.
#1005 [07:00] <Netu> Well, right now my server only has 1GB of memory as well.
#1006 [07:00] <Netu> I pay $20 a month.
#1007 [07:00] <AG_Clinton> I gotcha.
#1008 [07:00] <Netu> Oh, correction: Memory: 2 GB
#1009 [07:00] <Netu> Swap: 2 GB
#1010 [07:00] <Netu> Disk Space: 65 GB
#1011 [07:00] <Netu> Bandwidth: 2.93 TB
#1012 [07:00] <Netu> >_> Not sure if that went through. *clears his throat* http://pastebin.com/DUDbaLiD
#1013 [07:01] <AG_Clinton> Ya I got it.
#1014 [07:01] <AG_Clinton> Does that lag or something?
#1015 [07:01] <Netu> Yes. But I blame the host, not the hardware. They've been real pricks.
#1016 [07:01] <AG_Clinton> What proc?
#1017 [07:02] <AG_Clinton> cat /proc/cpuinfo
#1018 [07:02] <Netu> My panel doesn't tell me that. Give me a bit to see if I can find out. Of course ps aux wouldn't tell
#1019 [07:02] <AG_Clinton> Just run cat /proc/cpuinfo
#1020 [07:02] <AG_Clinton> And pastebin.
#1021 [07:03] <Netu> http://pastebin.com/fzmhStur
#1022 [07:03] <Netu> Thanks. Foolishly forgot cat. Never use it.
#1023 [07:03] <AG_Clinton> Good processor.
#1024 [07:03] <AG_Clinton> Only one core though.
#1025 [07:03] <AG_Clinton> Try this: dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync
#1026 [07:04] <Netu> http://pastebin.com/u8uUXatm
#1027 [07:05] <AG_Clinton> That's not that bad.
#1028 [07:05] <AG_Clinton> I'm not sure why you'd be getting lag.
#1029 [07:05] <AG_Clinton> Other than the CPU.
#1030 [07:05] <Netu> Really? TeamSpeak3, also hosted on this, gets really random lag spikes. Minecraft will get sluggish at times as well.
#1031 [07:05] <AG_Clinton> Mind PMing me the IP?
#1032 [07:05] <Netu> I have been working on fixing it this entire month and their suppot has offered any advice
#1033 [07:05] <Netu> mc.havengaming.net
#1034 [07:06] <Netu> The MC server is down though.
#1035 [07:06] <Netu> Do you want the direct IP to ping it or something?
#1036 [07:06] <AG_Clinton> Yes, but I can get it from that.
#1037 [07:06] <Netu> Yeppers
#1038 [07:06] <Netu> :)
#1039 [07:06] <Netu> Didn't want you to have to work too much though ;P You've already been so much help
#1040 [07:06] <AG_Clinton> It's 6am, I can't sleep, nothing better to do.
#1041 [07:07] <AG_Clinton> I like helping people.
#1042 [07:07] <Netu> Well, people appreciate it--I appreciate it!
#1043 [07:08] <AG_Clinton> They do sometimes. ; )
#1044 [07:08] <ItsCriminal> what is the diffrence between unpowered and powered obsidian ?
#1045 [07:09] <AG_Clinton> I just did a tracert.
#1046 [07:09] <AG_Clinton> Seems ok.
#1047 [07:10] <AG_Clinton> Is your host psychz?
#1048 [07:10] <Netu> I'll PM you them
#1049 [07:10] <AG_Clinton> Ok.
#1050 [07:21] <Shadow386> so guys
#1051 [07:21] <Shadow386> how would you feel about this GUI http://i.imgur.com/BTz3f.png to be your trading GUI?
#1052 [07:22] <Shadow386> simple enough system, player1 type /trade player2 within 5 blocks of player 1, player2 can accept with /trade player1 or deny with /trade deny
#1053 [07:23] <feenyx> it's like a mix of Diablo inventory system, and the trade window from WoW
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#1055 [07:26] <Shadow386> :<
#1056 [07:26] <Shadow386> it fits minecraft though
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#1060 [07:50] <feenyx> Shadow386: I never said it didn't :)
#1061 [07:50] <feenyx> I like it!
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#1063 [07:51] <Shadow386> feenyx then join in :3 http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=183045
#1064 [07:56] <bacon> !check 58.169.253.28:25565
#1065 [07:58] <bacon> If/when m8rm8r comes in her that's their server IP
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#1068 [08:07] <bacon> !check 58.169.253.28:25565
#1069 [08:08] <Netu> Geez, anyone here know how to use VIM?
#1070 [08:09] <Netu> I just want to make a basic .php
#1071 [08:14] <Netu> Strike that. Figuring it all out. :D
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#1075 [08:27] <deem> can i somehow get a map from a server? i mean with uptodate data when its not my server?
#1076 [08:28] <deem> like ... the map data is saved somewhere on my comp even though i´m only a client
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#1079 [08:36] <lolz> anyone help me with my server
#1080 [08:36] <LG_Legacy> Ask question leave minute after
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#1082 [08:37] <lolz> well how do you ban runes on runecraft
#1083 [08:37] <LG_Legacy> Runes?
#1084 [08:38] <lolz> an can someone test to see if they can join my server 58.169.253.28:25565
#1085 [08:38] <LG_Legacy> Oh
#1086 [08:38] <LG_Legacy> I'm quite sure it says on the thread
#1087 [08:38] <lolz> I checked but yeah.....
#1088 [08:39] <lolz> so can anyone see if they can join my server to see if it works 58.169.253.28:25565
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#1091 [08:40] <mib_bc4m9l> hello,
#1092 [08:40] <lolz> can you check my server to see if it works 58.169.253.28:25565
#1093 [08:40] <mib_bc4m9l> i want to buy mincraft but...
#1094 [08:40] <lolz> oh
#1095 [08:41] <lolz> lg legacy you on?
#1096 [08:41] <LG_Legacy> No
#1097 [08:41] <mib_bc4m9l> im in the us and ive never bought anything in euros...
#1098 [08:41] <lolz> then please check my server lg 58.169.253.28:25565
#1099 [08:41] <DeeWoo> lolz: no luck here
#1100 [08:41] <DeeWoo> :P
#1101 [08:41] <lolz> Plz I need to see if it works lg
#1102 [08:41] <mib_bc4m9l> does anyone know how that works on credit card?
#1103 [08:41] <lolz> or deewoo try my server
#1104 [08:42] <lolz> anyone
#1105 [08:42] <mib_bc4m9l> or is this the wrong channel to ask that sort of thing...
#1106 [08:42] <DeeWoo> lolz: as I said, no luck here
#1107 [08:43] <lolz> ): then anyone help me to get my server to work
#1108 [08:43] <lolz> and mib you just need paypal for that all you need is a credit card then you buy minecraft
#1109 [08:44] <lolz> LOl creeper just almost killed me
#1110 [08:45] <bacon> mib_bc4m9l: You just pay in USD and it'll be converted to euros
#1111 [08:45] <mib_bc4m9l> thanks, and i tried to ping your address but didn't work good luck getting your server to work
#1112 [08:46] <lolz> anyone no why my server is not working before the port 25565 was not opened now I opened it and it still does not work
#1113 [08:46] <lolz> no one can join ):
#1114 [08:46] <bacon> !check 58.169.253.28:25565
#1115 [08:47] <lolz> ):
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#1117 [08:57] <lolz> 58.169.253.28:25565
#1118 [08:57] <lolz> !check 58.169.253.28:25565
#1119 [08:58] <lolz> !check 58.169.253.28:25565
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#1126 [09:24] <Banelingpr0sweep> hi all, can anyone try to connect to my server, im having problems setting it up?
#1127 [09:25] <Banelingpr0sweep> anyone?
#1128 [09:26] <Banelingpr0sweep> pl0x?
#1129 [09:26] <DeeWoo> hard when I don't have your IP/host
#1130 [09:27] <Banelingpr0sweep> i can give it to you, i didnt just want to go spamming it all around :D
#1131 [09:27] <Banelingpr0sweep> sec lemme copypaste it
#1132 [09:27] <Banelingpr0sweep> 88.113.0.202:25565
#1133 [09:27] <Banelingpr0sweep> that is supposed to work
#1134 [09:28] <Banelingpr0sweep> does it work?
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#1136 [09:29] <Banelingpr0sweep> ..
#1137 [09:30] <Banelingpr0sweep> nyt ees saatana joku teistä suomalaisista yrittää, tän on tarkotus olla helppichätti
#1138 [09:31] <Sword> wtf, in english bro
#1139 [09:31] <Banelingpr0sweep> sry :D
#1140 [09:32] <Banelingpr0sweep> could you try joining this server? 88.113.0.202:25565
#1141 [09:34] <Sword> private server?
#1142 [09:34] <Banelingpr0sweep> im trying to set it up for few of my friends
#1143 [09:34] <Banelingpr0sweep> but a friend that tries to join says its just lagging at logging in...
#1144 [09:35] <Banelingpr0sweep> and im not sure if its him or the server, i can still join it
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#1146 [09:37] <Banelingpr0sweep> anyone please just try it?
#1147 [09:39] <Banelingpr0sweep> pleeeeease?
#1148 [09:39] <Banelingpr0sweep> does it work?
#1149 [09:39] <DeeWoo> 'logging in...'
#1150 [09:40] <Banelingpr0sweep> damn it
#1151 [09:40] <DeeWoo> there
#1152 [09:40] <DeeWoo> guess it's minecraft.net
#1153 [09:40] <Banelingpr0sweep> do you know what might be the problem?
#1154 [09:40] <DeeWoo> but it takes a while to download the terrain
#1155 [09:40] <peru__> !check 88.113.0.202:25565
#1156 [09:40] <DeeWoo> and connection lost
#1157 [09:40] <DeeWoo> when trying to download the terrain
#1158 [09:41] <DeeWoo> fine my ass, I cant play on it
#1159 [09:41] <Banelingpr0sweep> i think ive done all the portforwarding and stuff
#1160 [09:41] <DeeWoo> yeah, I get connection, but something is wrong
#1161 [09:41] <DeeWoo> check your logs
#1162 [09:41] <Banelingpr0sweep> the notepad file named 'server'?
#1163 [09:42] <Banelingpr0sweep> it says almost the same things that the server window itself says
#1164 [09:43] <Banelingpr0sweep> [INFO] DeeWoo [/80.65.53.60:42831] logged in with entity id 3 [INFO] DeeWoo lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#1165 [09:43] <DeeWoo> hm
#1166 [09:43] <DeeWoo> I got some java-errors as well
#1167 [09:43] <DeeWoo> when DC'ing
#1168 [09:44] <Banelingpr0sweep> Should I post a forum thread of it or something, or just wait?
#1169 [09:45] <Banelingpr0sweep> [INFO] Disconnecting /112.201.215.29:1576: Protocol error
#1170 [09:45] <Banelingpr0sweep> i get this sometimes aswell
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#1173 [09:49] <Banelingpr0sweep> Anyone got any idea what might be the problem?
#1174 [09:50] <DeeWoo> strange, I have no clue
#1175 [09:50] <DeeWoo> but I'm no expert, my server runs just fine
#1176 [09:50] <DeeWoo> no problems
#1177 [09:53] <Banelingpr0sweep> sadface
#1178 [09:54] <Banelingpr0sweep> damn minecraft
#1179 [09:54] <Banelingpr0sweep> too complicated
#1180 [09:54] <xales> Banelingpr0sweep: do you happen to know the model of NIC in your computer?
#1181 [09:55] <Banelingpr0sweep> whats NIC? :D
#1182 [09:55] <DeeWoo> network interface controller AKA network-card
#1183 [09:55] <Banelingpr0sweep> sec
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#1185 [09:57] <vegas> hello
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#1187 [09:57] <vegas> im new
#1188 [09:57] <xales> hello
#1189 [09:57] <vegas> i died and Im trying to find my place
#1190 [09:57] <vegas> is there any easy way of doing that?
#1191 [09:57] <xales> on singleplayer?
#1192 [09:57] <vegas> yes
#1193 [09:58] <xales> use a map editor such as MCEdit to find the coordinates, then navigate to them in-game using F3
#1194 [09:58] <Banelingpr0sweep> Atheros AR 8121/AR 8113/AR 8114 PCI-E network controller
#1195 [09:58] <xales> holding F3 will show you the coordinates
#1196 [09:58] <xales> ??> Banelingpr0sweep fubar/nic
#1197 [09:58] <VoxelHead> Banelingpr0sweep: (fubar/nic) Unfortunately, Minecraft has an incompatibility with certain network interface chipsets that manifests with a "Recv Timed Out" or a "Socket Write" error.
#1198 [09:58] <VoxelHead> Banelingpr0sweep: (fubar/nic) Your only three solutions at the moment are to buy a new NIC, to switch to Linux or MacOS (which does not have this problem), or to wait for Notch to find and fix the problem.
#1199 [09:58] <Banelingpr0sweep> damn
#1200 [09:58] <DeeWoo> :)
#1201 [09:59] <xales> Atheros is known to have issues with several things
#1202 [09:59] <xales> including Minecraft
#1203 [09:59] <Banelingpr0sweep> I think i also have an external PCI-E network card, Ill try that
#1204 [09:59] <vegas> so find it, and then use a map editor?
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#1206 [10:00] <xales> vegas: no, use the map editor to find it
#1207 [10:00] <xales> it will tell you the coordinates
#1208 [10:00] <xales> you can then hold F3 to see the coordinates you are at, while playing
#1209 [10:01] <xales> and navigate to it
#1210 [10:01] <xales> using the coordinates
#1211 [10:01] <DeeWoo> like GPS
#1212 [10:02] <vegas> what map editor?
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#1214 [10:03] <xales> MCEdit
#1215 [10:04] <Sword> hey banedude
#1216 [10:04] <Sword> you there?
#1217 [10:05] <xales> Sword, it might be easier to determine if someone is around if you use a real client that would let you see these things in a not-retarded way :P
#1218 [10:05] <xales> AKA, not Mibbit
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#1220 [10:05] <Sword> hahaha
#1221 [10:07] <vegas> sorry to be a bother, but how can that editor tell me where I live?
#1222 [10:07] <Sword> well anyways, connecting to his minecraft server caused my browser to crash twice
#1223 [10:07] <xales> vegas: you can use the map editor to look around the map much quicker, or to find something that doesn't occur naturally (a chest)
#1224 [10:07] <xales> and then determine the coordinates
#1225 [10:07] <Sword> it's magic, my friend
#1226 [10:07] <xales> Sword: why are you using the browser? :P
#1227 [10:07] <vegas> ahhhh lol
#1228 [10:08] <Sword> because i'm lazy like that
#1229 [10:08] <xales> Sword: it's less effort to download it and just double click an icon then to navigate to minecraft.net, log in, click play, etc :P
#1230 [10:08] <vegas> umm
#1231 [10:09] <vegas> i downloaded MCEdit alpha, and all its doing is building shit
#1232 [10:09] <xales> vegas: "building shit"?
#1233 [10:09] <vegas> building "stuff"
#1234 [10:09] <vegas> like buildings
#1235 [10:10] <xales> the editor allows you to build things, yes, but you can also look for blocks, or just zoom around the map really fast
#1236 [10:10] <vegas> Im looking for how to find my place Ive spent 10 hrs on lol
#1237 [10:10] <Sword> i imagined the MCEdit is like the lower intestine or something
#1238 [10:10] <vegas> how is it my same map?
#1239 [10:10] <Sword> building shit
#1240 [10:10] <vegas> i didnt log on ot anything
#1241 [10:10] <xales> vegas: Uhh...you have to save the map
#1242 [10:10] <xales> and you have to log on to play
#1243 [10:11] <xales> the map saves onto your computer by default, assuming you are playing Beta
#1244 [10:11] <vegas> ahh
#1245 [10:12] <xales> if you didn't log into anything, how are you playing? :P
#1246 [10:13] <vegas> i get it now sorry
#1247 [10:13] <vegas> does it show resources also?
#1248 [10:14] <xales> yes
#1249 [10:14] <xales> also, please answer that question
#1250 [10:14] <xales> how are you playing without logging into anything?
#1251 [10:15] <vegas> the first time i go into the edit it didnt do anything
#1252 [10:15] * xales waits for an answer
#1252 [10:15] <vegas> and the second time it put me right where i was in game
#1253 [10:15] <vegas> i was confused
#1254 [10:16] <xales> I'm not looking for an explanation, I'm looking for an answer. You said you were playing the game without logging into anything. How?
#1255 [10:16] <vegas> ok I found it, now what lol
#1256 [10:16] <xales> Did you buy the game?
#1257 [10:16] <vegas> im loged into the game
#1258 [10:16] <xales> do you mind telling me your username, then?
#1259 [10:16] <vegas> i didnt understand how the map editor could find my map
#1260 [10:16] <vegas> vegas22
#1261 [10:17] <xales> ok, sorry about that :P we just get a lot of people in here asking for help with a pirated version
#1262 [10:18] <vegas> ohh no
#1263 [10:18] <vegas> im just really new
#1264 [10:18] <vegas> lol
#1265 [10:18] <xales> the saves live in a standard location, in the .minecraft folder - where that is depends on what OS you are using
#1266 [10:18] <vegas> i found my place, but how do I get to it
#1267 [10:18] <xales> the map editor should have a way to tell you the coordinates
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#1269 [10:22] <vegas> i dont see any cordinates
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#1271 [10:24] <xales> one sec
#1272 [10:24] <xales> i'll go get it and see if I can find it
#1273 [10:26] <xales> ok, on the bottom bar
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#1275 [10:26] <xales> click "move player"
#1276 [10:26] <xales> and click where you want to be
#1277 [10:26] <xales> then save with control-S, and close the editor
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#1279 [10:27] <DTOX> DopeGhoti, was it you who linked a prety good NIC to me last night?
#1280 [10:29] <DTOX> pretty*
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#1282 [10:32] <Fengrim> Me and a friend is trying to setup a server over LAN, so I adjusted the server.settings to online mode false, and added the wan4ip from cmd's ipconfig. But when he tries to connect it gives disconnected.genericReason. Anyone know what migth be causing it?
#1283 [10:32] <xales> Fengrim: you shouldn't set online-mode to false
#1284 [10:33] <xales> unless the server doesn't have an internet connection
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#1286 [10:33] <xales> also, you shouldn't specify an IP in the properties file
#1287 [10:35] <Fengrim> now hes getting internal exception; java.net.socket exception, connection reset
#1288 [10:35] <Fengrim> after i set it back to online mode true and removed the ip
#1289 [10:35] <Fengrim> the server log says the same though, disconnected.genericReason
#1290 [10:37] <xales> do you have a firewall running?
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#1293 [10:38] <xales> particularly, ZoneAlarm?
#1294 [10:38] <Fengrim> mine is off, were running on hes router though so I guess that migth be on.
#1295 [10:39] <vegas> another ?
#1296 [10:39] <vegas> im in a dungeon now
#1297 [10:39] <vegas> and theres this metal crate in the middle with a ghoul on fire spinning
#1298 [10:39] <vegas> whats that?
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#1300 [10:40] <xales> vegas: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mob_Spawner
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#1302 [10:40] <u10jc> I need Minecaft help, fundly enough
#1303 [10:40] <xales> Fengrim: do you know what model of NIC is in the server?
#1304 [10:40] <MDanz> i need help with my server
#1305 [10:41] <MDanz> i cant connect to my own server
#1306 [10:41] <xales> ?? specific
#1307 [10:41] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1308 [10:41] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1309 [10:41] <Fengrim> NIC? not that I know of in english atleast xales
#1310 [10:41] <MDanz> it says server connection times out
#1311 [10:41] <MDanz> and it was working last night
#1312 [10:41] <xales> MDanz: what IP are you using to connect
#1313 [10:41] <xales> Fengrim: Network interface card
#1314 [10:41] <Sword> thus, i learn what pastebin is for
#1315 [10:41] <MDanz> trying to use mine
#1316 [10:42] <MDanz> ddnt work
#1317 [10:42] <MDanz> so use
#1318 [10:42] <MDanz> 217.0.0.1
#1319 [10:42] <MDanz> n ddnt work
#1320 [10:42] <Fengrim> Im running it from my computer
#1321 [10:42] <xales> That's the wrong IP, which is why it didn't work
#1322 [10:42] <xales> your local IP is 127.0.0.1
#1323 [10:42] <u10jc> I'm trying to play Minecraft on Linux but all the free versions won't work, Nothing happens on the webpage, just remains blank
#1324 [10:42] <xales> u10jc: do you have Sun's JVM installed?
#1325 [10:42] <MDanz> thats what i tryed
#1326 [10:42] <MDanz> but my frieds cant connect
#1327 [10:42] <u10jc> Sun JRE 6 is installed and selected
#1328 [10:42] <xales> MDanz: Did that address work?
#1329 [10:43] <xales> u10jc: Try www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#1330 [10:43] <MDanz> no
#1331 [10:43] <MDanz> GreyVulpine
#1332 [10:43] <MDanz> you there?
#1333 [10:43] <xales> MDanz: If 127.0.0.1 isn't working, the server isn't running correctly
#1334 [10:43] <MDanz> it was last night
#1335 [10:43] <u10jc> it is telling me that java isn't working, but not why
#1336 [10:43] <xales> your poin is..? it isn't now
#1337 [10:43] <MDanz> GreyVulpine can you come on team viewer again?
#1338 [10:43] <xales> u10jc: what browser are you using?
#1339 [10:43] <MDanz> firefox
#1340 [10:44] <MDanz> oh dw
#1341 [10:44] <xales> MDanz: I wasn't asking you...? ._.
#1342 [10:44] <MDanz> GreyVulpine
#1343 [10:44] <xales> also, if he isn't around, don't keep pinging him
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#1345 [10:45] <MDanz> your loads of help m8
#1346 [10:45] <u10jc> I am using firefox on Ubuntu 10.4
#1347 [10:46] <u10jc> I have gone to check if Java is enabled but I cant find any option to enable it, only Javascript
#1348 [10:46] <xales> u10jc: you installed sun-java6-jre, and selected it?
#1349 [10:46] <u10jc> yep, in the terminal using the alternatives command
#1350 [10:46] <xales> MDanz: You aren't asking me for help, you are bothering Grey when he isn't around
#1351 [10:46] <xales> u10jc: open a terminal, and run 'java -version'
#1352 [10:46] <xales> paste the output of that here
#1353 [10:47] <u10jc> java version "1.6.0_22"
#1354 [10:47] <u10jc> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
#1355 [10:47] <u10jc> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
#1356 [10:48] <xales> in Firefox, there should be ( I don't remember where ) an option to list plugins, is the term I think
#1357 [10:48] <xales> make sure Java is listed in there
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#1359 [10:49] <u10jc> its not listed but its definitely installed
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#1361 [10:50] <u10jc> only plugins listed are Flash, Adobe and some VLC/Quitcktime
#1362 [10:50] <xales> if it's not listed, Firefox doesn't think it's installed
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#1364 [10:50] <vegas> when I log on here at work, and when I log on at home, there are two diffrent saved games
#1365 [10:51] <vegas> i mean two diffrent worlds saved for w1
#1366 [10:51] <mib_ljz677> Hello, someone German here?
#1367 [10:51] <vegas> at work theres a w1, and at home theres a w1
#1368 [10:51] <u10jc> typical ubuntu
#1369 [10:51] <vegas> ?
#1370 [10:51] <xales> mib_ljz677: wait a moment, DopeGhoti might be around
#1371 [10:51] <xales> vegas: that's to be expected
#1372 [10:51] <u10jc> does it matter what java console plugin I install or do I need to find a Sun Java specific one /
#1373 [10:51] <xales> worlds are computer-specific, not account-specific
#1374 [10:51] <mib_ljz677> thanks for the info xales
#1375 [10:51] <xales> u10jc: a sun one would be what you want
#1376 [10:52] <xales> vegas: there are looks that let you sync them, if you want to do that
#1377 [10:52] <MDanz> i can join my server now but my firend cant it says refused connection can someone tell me how to get them in and i tryed oping there naems
#1378 [10:52] <mib_ljz677> Is Paysafe worldwide? Could you pay with a german paysafecard?
#1379 [10:53] <MDanz> anyone?
#1380 [10:55] <MDanz> ANYONE????
#1381 [10:55] <MDanz> not much help is it
#1382 [10:55] <xales> mib_ljz677: Unfortunately, no. Sorry
#1383 [10:55] <xales> MDanz: the problem is networking related
#1384 [10:56] <MDanz> no i can get on it now
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#1386 [10:56] <MDanz> my friends cant says refsed connection
#1387 [10:56] <frogonia> Hello, is there someone German here?
#1388 [10:56] <frogonia> oh sry, doublelogin
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#1391 [10:57] <MDanz> GreyVulpine
#1392 [10:57] <mib_ljz677> Does anybody have a YunaCard in here?
#1393 [10:57] <MDanz> GreyVulpine can you hlep?
#1394 [10:58] <frogonia> Idle :(
#1395 [10:59] <MDanz> can none hlep me then?
#1396 [10:59] <u10jc> finally got it working :)
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#1398 [11:00] <xales> MDanz: I said, please don't keep pinging him if he isn't here
#1399 [11:01] <xales> MDanz: You probably need to re-do the port forwardiong
#1400 [11:01] <xales> forwarding*
#1401 [11:01] <frogonia> I still need someone with knowledge of Yuna-Card or any other way to pay minecraft by paysafecard.
#1402 [11:02] <xales> There isn't a way to use a paysafecard, sorry =/
#1403 [11:02] <frogonia> yes there is :)
#1404 [11:02] <frogonia> called yuna-card
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#1406 [11:03] <xales> That isn't really using the paysafecard though
#1407 [11:03] <MDanz> but GreyVulpine port forwarded for me
#1408 [11:03] <exp0> notch is awesome
#1409 [11:03] <xales> if you need help with that, you should probably look elsewhere
#1410 [11:04] <exp0> port forwarding is so easy
#1411 [11:04] <xales> MDanz: Do it yourself
#1412 [11:05] <xales> if you really can't figure it out, you probably shouldn't be running a server =/
#1413 [11:05] <MDanz> i know how to
#1414 [11:05] <MDanz> it just never works
#1415 [11:05] <exp0> then you did something wrong.
#1416 [11:05] <xales> ^
#1417 [11:06] <exp0> time to get cavities removed.
#1418 [11:07] <Netu> Anyone here good at Linux? I just mv a file into /minecraft -- any way to recover it?
#1419 [11:07] <Netu> (I know I know, asking to recover a file in Linux is ridiculous.)
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#1421 [11:08] <SlowDeath> Netu
#1422 [11:08] <Netu> Hello again slide
#1423 [11:08] <Netu> ...
#1424 [11:08] <Netu> SlowDeath
#1425 [11:08] <Netu> :P
#1426 [11:08] <SlowDeath> Lol.
#1427 [11:08] <SlowDeath> That link dosent work we keep getting acces denied.
#1428 [11:08] <Netu> Which one?
#1429 [11:08] <SlowDeath> Bamboo
#1430 [11:09] <Netu> http://bamboo.lukegb.com/allPlans.action
#1431 [11:09] <Netu> That?
#1432 [11:09] <Diabo> i got a private minecraft server for me and my friends to play, but is there a way to get the /give command to work for all users, and not only ops?
#1433 [11:09] <SlowDeath> http://bamboo.lukegb.com/browse/BUKKIT-CRAFTBUKKIT/
#1434 [11:09] <xales> Diabo: using a mod, such as Bukkit
#1435 [11:09] <SlowDeath> You gave me that
#1436 [11:09] <Netu> Add it to the other groups you want to use it, Diablothein
#1437 [11:09] <Netu> (Darn my tabbing!)
#1438 [11:09] <Netu> Diabo*
#1439 [11:09] <Diablothein> What?
#1440 [11:09] <Diablothein> o.o
#1441 [11:10] <Diabo> xales: got it, but what should i write?
#1442 [11:10] <Netu> SlowDeath: Yeah, that's a more direct link, I am not sure why it did not work for you; regardless, there's your link now.
#1443 [11:10] <Netu> Diablothein: Sorry. :P
#1444 [11:10] <SlowDeath> :P ty
#1445 [11:10] <Netu> Diabo: Write what?
#1446 [11:10] <Diabo> how to give them access to give command
#1447 [11:11] <Netu> I just told you. Add the command to the group you want to use it.
#1448 [11:11] <Netu> If you do not use groups, set up permissions with Niji's plugin.
#1449 [11:11] <Diabo> but which file to edit?
#1450 [11:11] <xales> You need to install a plugin to do that
#1451 [11:11] <xales> such as 'Permissions'
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#1453 [11:11] <Diabo> ok
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#1458 [11:16] <gunther21> Is there a pretty much trusted site for letting someone buy minecraft for me?
#1459 [11:16] <xales> No
#1460 [11:16] <xales> such things don't really exist
#1461 [11:16] <gunther21> Teh Internetz..
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#1463 [11:18] <gamakichi> can someone help me
#1464 [11:19] <peru__> we're not mindreaders
#1465 [11:19] <gamakichi> I have tried to get on minecraft for the past month
#1466 [11:19] <gamakichi> but it keeps crashing
#1467 [11:19] <gamakichi> mind if i post the error message?
#1468 [11:19] <xales> ?? pastebin
#1469 [11:19] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#1470 [11:19] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#1471 [11:20] <gamakichi> oh i see
#1472 [11:20] <gamakichi> well its not that big :(
#1473 [11:20] <xales> More than 2 lines, use Pastebin
#1474 [11:21] <gamakichi> http://pastebin.com/NZrXBETD like this?
#1475 [11:22] <gamakichi> can anyone help me out
#1476 [11:22] <xales> yes
#1477 [11:22] <gamakichi> :D
#1478 [11:22] <xales> ??> gamakichi reinst/win
#1479 [11:22] <xales> gah
#1480 [11:22] <xales> ??> gamakichi win/reinst
#1481 [11:22] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1482 [11:22] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1484 [11:23] <gamakichi> ive done this before :( but ill try it again
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#1486 [11:23] <xales> gamakichi: instead of deleting 'bin' try renaming the entire .minecraft folder to something else
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#1488 [11:24] <gamakichi> i will after im done with the first step
#1489 [11:24] <gamakichi> thanks for the help
#1490 [11:24] <xales> mhmm
#1491 [11:25] <gamakichi> ermm the first one didnt work
#1492 [11:25] <xales> try renaming it then
#1493 [11:25] <gamakichi> the whole folder?
#1494 [11:25] <xales> yes, rename the entire .minecraft folder
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#1496 [11:26] <gamakichi> same error :<
#1497 [11:27] <gamakichi> :( so there is no solution
#1498 [11:28] <gamakichi> voxelhead
#1499 [11:28] <gamakichi> can ya help me any further?
#1500 [11:29] <xales> VoxelHead is a bot
#1501 [11:29] <xales> gamakichi: you renamed the entire folder?
#1502 [11:29] <xales> the entire .minecraft folder, to something different than '.minecraft'?
#1503 [11:30] <gamakichi> yas
#1504 [11:30] <gamakichi> i named it Minecraft folder :/
#1505 [11:30] <gamakichi> should it be different
#1506 [11:30] <xales> call it something random
#1507 [11:30] <xales> just like 'af8rwrfaw'
#1508 [11:30] <gamakichi> ok...
#1509 [11:31] <gamakichi> well all i know is that it just renames itself after i finish dowloading the stuff
#1510 [11:32] <gamakichi> same error :(
#1511 [11:32] <gamakichi> how can i get the voxelhead bot to help me
#1512 [11:32] <xales> It doesn't do anything by itself
#1513 [11:32] <xales> it just saves messages
#1514 [11:32] <gamakichi> oh...
#1515 [11:32] <gamakichi> its gone
#1516 [11:32] <gamakichi> your the only one left now :(
#1517 [11:33] <xales> what?
#1518 [11:33] <gamakichi> nevermind
#1519 [11:33] <gamakichi> didnt see that other list
#1520 [11:33] <xales> try re-downloading the .exe file
#1521 [11:35] <gamakichi> already done that
#1522 [11:36] <xales> has it always done this?
#1523 [11:36] <gamakichi> yes never played minecraft once
#1524 [11:36] <gamakichi> and it makes me mad
#1525 [11:36] <gamakichi> the email dosent even respond
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#1528 [11:37] <xales> they don't deal with this kind of support
#1529 [11:37] <xales> anyway
#1530 [11:37] <xales> try this
#1531 [11:37] <xales> ??> gamakichi dxdiag
#1532 [11:37] <RemixMiner> Hello, when installing LWC on my server, it always only shows up as red command sign... so if i type "/lwc" then in chat there stands "/lwc" in red.
#1533 [11:37] <RemixMiner> What to do?
#1534 [11:37] <xales> gah
#1535 [11:37] <xales> one second
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#1537 [11:38] <aetherian> heya
#1538 [11:38] <xales> ??> gamakichi win/dxdiag
#1539 [11:38] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1540 [11:38] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1541 [11:38] <xales> ??> RemixMiner mods
#1542 [11:38] <VoxelHead> RemixMiner: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
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#1544 [11:38] <VoxelHead> RemixMiner: (mods) For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1545 [11:38] <gamakichi> umm i dont understand
#1546 [11:38] <gamakichi> wait nevermind
#1547 [11:38] <xales> what?
#1548 [11:38] <gamakichi> i got it
#1549 [11:39] <aetherian> augh
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#1551 [11:41] <gamakichi> http://pastebin.com/qBmnLxkh
#1552 [11:41] <gamakichi> thats it i think
#1553 [11:42] <xales> can you paste the entire thing?
#1554 [11:42] <gamakichi> woah ok :D
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#1556 [11:43] <mr_sticky> Hello. If I buy a minecraft Beta key can i play the newest version with that?
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#1558 [11:43] <gamakichi> http://pastebin.com/2QsG8nRe
#1559 [11:43] <gamakichi> thats the whole thing
#1560 [11:43] <exp0> well, that was fast
#1561 [11:43] <xales> mr_sticky: yes
#1562 [11:44] <mr_sticky> sorry to bother you but how does that work? If I buy a beta key from a stranger now, how will i get the newest version with that etc?
#1563 [11:44] <mr_sticky> im a noob :(
#1564 [11:44] <xales> mr_sticky: buying it from a stranger is a bad idea
#1565 [11:44] <gamakichi> lol
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#1567 [11:44] <aetherian> haha
#1568 [11:44] <mr_sticky> lets say i find it..
#1569 [11:44] <xales> but yes, if you buy Beta, you will get the newest version
#1570 [11:44] <xales> "find it"?
#1571 [11:44] <mr_sticky> ill buy it over a middleman, itll be ok
#1572 [11:45] * aetherian facepalms
#1572 [11:45] <xales> gamakichi: one sec, I'm looking into what is causing your problem
#1573 [11:45] <xales> have you done Windows Updates recently?
#1574 [11:45] <gamakichi> ok
#1575 [11:45] <gamakichi> yes
#1576 [11:45] <gamakichi> every day
#1577 [11:45] <xales> oh, that makes me think
#1578 [11:45] <xales> do you have an antivirus running?
#1579 [11:45] <gamakichi> errmm
#1580 [11:45] <gamakichi> im not sure
#1581 [11:46] <mr_sticky> and whats the difference between an alpha and beta key?
#1582 [11:46] <xales> look in the taskbar (bottom right area, make sure to look at 'hidden' icons too)
#1583 [11:46] <xales> mr_sticky: alpha keys are guaranteed to give you all future expansions, beta will not
#1584 [11:46] <gamakichi> symantec antivirus
#1585 [11:46] <gamakichi> yes i do
#1586 [11:46] <xales> gamakichi: that's likely the problem
#1587 [11:46] <xales> you need to disable that
#1588 [11:46] <xales> ideally, uninstall, because it's a piece of shit
#1589 [11:46] <gamakichi> your not gonna hack me are you
#1590 [11:47] <xales> uh, no. antivirus doesn't even protect against stuff like that
#1591 [11:47] <xales> especially not a shitty one like symantec/norton
#1592 [11:47] <gamakichi> you have my system info and now i delete my only defence!?!?
#1593 [11:47] <gamakichi> nevar!?!
#1594 [11:47] <xales> symantec doesn't really protect against anything, and that information doesn't do shit
#1595 [11:48] <xales> all it does is tell me information about the hardware in your computer
#1596 [11:48] <gamakichi> yah im kinda dumb just saying
#1597 [11:48] <xales> anyway
#1598 [11:48] <gamakichi> k its disabled
#1599 [11:48] <aetherian> oh no
#1600 [11:49] <gamakichi> just kidding its not! ahah!
#1601 [11:49] <xales> ...
#1602 [11:49] * aetherian facepalms
#1602 [11:49] <gamakichi> lol you know im joking
#1603 [11:49] <gamakichi> i need help!!!!!! :(
#1604 [11:49] <aetherian> add more exclamation points
#1605 [11:50] <xales> ...
#1606 [11:50] <xales> the problem is your antivirus (it's a piece of shit)
#1607 [11:50] <xales> uninstall it, and install one that doesn't suck
#1608 [11:50] <gamakichi> but what is it doing
#1609 [11:50] <gamakichi> like what?
#1610 [11:50] <xales> it's preventing Minecraft from accessing the files it needs to run
#1611 [11:50] <gamakichi> avg?
#1612 [11:50] <xales> Avira
#1613 [11:50] <gamakichi> is it free
#1614 [11:50] <xales> yes
#1615 [11:51] <xales> http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus
#1616 [11:51] <feenyx> xales: how would you compare Avira to MSE?
#1617 [11:51] <aetherian> MSE sucks
#1618 [11:51] <aetherian> I uninstalled it
#1619 [11:51] <xales> I don't use either
#1620 [11:51] <xales> but i've heard better things about Avira
#1621 [11:51] <xales> and it's not made by MS, so...
#1622 [11:51] <feenyx> aetherian: I need a more compelling argument than "it sucks"
#1623 [11:51] <aetherian> fine then
#1624 [11:51] <aetherian> it uses sytem resources
#1625 [11:52] <aetherian> it doesn't do anything
#1626 [11:52] <xales> both of them do that, aetherian
#1627 [11:52] <xales> I don't use an antivirus for that reason
#1628 [11:52] <aetherian> it keeps popping up
#1629 [11:52] <xales> well, beyond Clam
#1630 [11:52] <feenyx> MSE is using about 40MB mem on this comp
#1631 [11:52] <xales> Clam just does passive scanning, no active monitoring
#1632 [11:52] <feenyx> I'd hardly call that life-changing
#1633 [11:52] <xales> feenyx: don't forget it hooks into the system
#1634 [11:53] <aetherian> anyone else here use malwarebytes?
#1635 [11:53] <feenyx> I have, on occasion
#1636 [11:53] <aetherian> I find it quite useful
#1637 [11:53] <xales> hahaha
#1638 [11:53] <xales> http://i.imgur.com/8k2Lg.png
#1639 [11:54] <gamakichi> xales
#1640 [11:54] <gamakichi> do i get the trial version?
#1641 [11:54] <xales> no
#1642 [11:54] <aetherian> xD
#1643 [11:54] <xales> the free version
#1644 [11:54] <gamakichi> ok
#1645 [11:54] <gamakichi> i got that one
#1646 [11:54] <xales> install it
#1647 [11:54] <xales> uninstall symantec
#1648 [11:54] <xales> then restart the computer
#1649 [11:54] <feenyx> between MSE, Malwarebytes and Spybot S&D, there's very very little I haven't been able to clean out of a computer
#1650 [11:54] <feenyx> and they're all free
#1651 [11:55] <gamakichi> but ill get disconnected
#1652 [11:55] <aetherian> hmm
#1653 [11:55] <gamakichi> i uninstalled
#1654 [11:55] <gamakichi> and now im downloading other one
#1655 [11:55] <aetherian> I haven't installed spybot yet, I had it on my ohter computer
#1656 [11:56] <xales> gamakichi: so?
#1657 [11:56] <xales> you need to reboot
#1658 [11:56] <xales> or it won't fully uninstall
#1659 [11:57] <mr_sticky> how much is an minecraft alpha account? Are they those for 15€?
#1660 [11:57] <gamakichi> ok ill be back
#1661 [11:57] <exp0> they arent for sale by Minecraft
#1662 [11:57] <gamakichi> gotta restart my comp
#1663 [11:57] <xales> mr_sticky: you can't buy them any more
#1664 [11:57] <mr_sticky> wow i dont get it...
#1665 [11:57] <aetherian> ...
#1666 [11:57] <exp0> you'd have to find someone with an unused key that is legit because MC doesn't have a way to check for validity
#1667 [11:57] <mr_sticky> what is it what i would buy on the main page these days?
#1668 [11:57] <xales> Beta
#1669 [11:57] <aetherian> they were on sale before dec. 20th
#1670 [11:57] <mr_sticky> an key? or account?!
#1671 [11:57] <aetherian> now they're not.
#1672 [11:58] <xales> mr_sticky: an account
#1673 [11:58] <xales> a key is just how you give the game to someone else, instead of buying it yourself
#1674 [11:58] <mr_sticky> so the newest is beta account with which ill get all new updates?
#1675 [11:58] <aetherian> theoretically you could buy it for yourself
#1676 [11:58] <xales> Beta will get all updates
#1677 [11:58] <aetherian> all updates until release
#1678 [11:58] <xales> Alpha will get all updates and also expansion packs
#1679 [11:58] <aetherian> no post release updates
#1680 [11:58] <mr_sticky> you said alpha b4 :(
#1681 [11:58] <aetherian> no
#1682 [11:58] <aetherian> no he did not
#1683 [11:58] <xales> Alpha = more stuff
#1684 [11:59] <xales> beta = slightly less stuff
#1685 [11:59] <mr_sticky> but you cant get alpha anymore?
#1686 [11:59] <aetherian> alpha=post-release updates
#1687 [11:59] <aetherian> true
#1688 [11:59] <xales> mr_sticky: correct
#1689 [11:59] <mr_sticky> finally i got it..
#1690 [11:59] <mr_sticky> :D
#1691 [11:59] <xales> Alpha was for people who bought it early on
#1692 [11:59] <Kealper> i'm going to write a page that really explains in detail about alpha vs. beta accounts
#1693 [11:59] <aetherian> ehh
#1694 [11:59] <aetherian> haven't seen many enquiries about it
#1695 [11:59] <Kealper> a lot of people have issues understanding what that is
#1696 [11:59] <Kealper> i've seen tons
#1697 [12:00] <mr_sticky> and... whats an premium account? o:
#1698 [12:00] <xales> premium account = account that has bought the game
#1699 [12:00] <aetherian> does not compute
#1700 [12:00] <mr_sticky> k
#1701 [12:00] <mr_sticky> tyvm
#1702 [12:01] <aetherian> ywvm
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#1704 [12:02] <aetherian> hey Skyrider
#1705 [12:02] <xales> aetherian: you are getting promoted
#1706 [12:02] <xales> just kidding
#1707 [12:03] <xales> >:D
#1708 [12:03] <Kealper> owned
#1709 [12:03] <xales> hi Kealper
#1710 [12:03] <Kealper> ello
#1711 [12:03] <xales> haven't seen you around for a while
#1712 [12:03] <xales> though I haven't been on as much
#1713 [12:03] <Kealper> i was just talking >.>
#1714 [12:03] <xales> wow what
#1715 [12:03] <Kealper> although, i just woke up lol...
#1716 [12:03] <xales> I totally missed that
#1717 [12:03] <aetherian> huh wha
#1718 [12:04] <aetherian> oh hurrr hurrr xales
#1719 [12:04] <aetherian> you've done that 2-3 times
#1720 [12:04] <xales> no, I don't think I have
#1721 [12:04] <aetherian> you did at least once before
#1722 [12:04] <xales> Kealper, http://darksigns.net/xales/MinecraftLauncherLauncher.zip
#1723 [12:04] <aetherian> and someone else has as well
#1724 [12:04] <xales> it's a tiny EXE to launch the leaked new launcher
#1725 [12:04] <aetherian> well technically
#1726 [12:04] <aetherian> you opped me before
#1727 [12:04] <aetherian> nonetheless...
#1728 [12:05] <aetherian> bubut it ruins the omg promotion if I'm afk for a lil
#1729 [12:05] <xales> :P
#1730 [12:05] <aetherian> d:
#1731 [12:06] <aetherian> ^backwards tounge, not botched despair
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#1733 [12:06] <aetherian> whoa
#1734 [12:07] <aetherian> long time no see, PcJamesy
#1735 [12:07] <Kealper> xales: why does this need .NET 4?
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#1737 [12:07] <calatalee> xales?
#1738 [12:07] <xales> Kealper, I did it in C#
#1739 [12:07] <xales> too lazy
#1740 [12:07] <calatalee> this is gamkichi dude
#1741 [12:07] <Kealper> i dun have .NET 4 :/
#1742 [12:07] <calatalee> with the minecraft error
#1743 [12:07] <Kealper> speaking of which...do i need a restart after installing that?
#1744 [12:08] <calatalee> xales
#1745 [12:09] <xales> calatalee: sorry, yeah?
#1746 [12:09] <xales> Kealper: the exe just launches it for you
#1747 [12:09] <xales> you have to use the exe to run it
#1748 [12:10] <xales> calatalee: one sec
#1749 [12:10] <calatalee> im dowloading the avira now
#1750 [12:10] <xales> calatalee: does it work now? :P
#1751 [12:10] <Kealper> no, i mean do i have to restart after installing .NET 4.0
#1752 [12:10] <calatalee> i let you know when its done
#1753 [12:10] <Kealper> i can't remember if i do or not
#1754 [12:10] <xales> Kealper: shouldn't need to
#1755 [12:10] <Kealper> right then....
#1756 [12:10] * Kealper boots to the admin account
#1756 [12:10] <xales> Kealper
#1757 [12:10] <xales> just download it yourself
#1758 [12:10] <xales> it's not hard
#1759 [12:10] <Kealper> oh...and starting a text doc with #! C:\xampp\au3\AutoCGI.exe ftw
#1760 [12:11] <Kealper> well, i should have the latest .NET stuff installed anyways
#1761 [12:11] <xales> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/tmp/MinecraftLauncher.jar
#1762 [12:11] <Kealper> might as well kill two birds with one stone
#1763 [12:11] <xales> lol
#1764 [12:12] <xales> anyway
#1765 [12:12] <xales> I'm going to play some TF2 :o
#1766 [12:13] <calatalee> wait
#1767 [12:13] <calatalee> what about me
#1768 [12:13] <xales> Kealper can help
#1769 [12:13] <xales> I'm not the only one
#1770 [12:13] <xales> >.>
#1771 [12:13] <calatalee> can you :D
#1772 [12:13] <calatalee> kealper :D
#1773 [12:14] <xales> you might need to wait a sec
#1774 [12:14] <xales> he's afk or something
#1775 [12:14] <Kealper> wut
#1776 [12:14] <calatalee> can you help me
#1777 [12:14] <Kealper> depends, help with what?
#1778 [12:14] <calatalee> with my minecraft problem
#1779 [12:14] <calatalee> umm hold up
#1780 [12:15] <calatalee> http://pastebin.com/G7T0qb2y
#1781 [12:15] <Kealper> just got filled in, been told you need norton reinstalled
#1782 [12:15] <calatalee> this is what happens before i can even see the main menu
#1783 [12:15] <Kealper> or just plain uninstalled
#1784 [12:16] <calatalee> umm not norton
#1785 [12:16] <Kealper> symmantec or w/e
#1786 [12:16] <calatalee> yea that
#1787 [12:16] <Kealper> they are one and the same
#1788 [12:16] <calatalee> i uninstalled it
#1789 [12:16] <Kealper> and it still happens?
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#1791 [12:17] <calatalee> well do i need to restart my comp?
#1792 [12:17] <Kealper> probably
#1793 [12:17] <calatalee> k ill be back
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#1797 [12:26] <longshotz38> kealper
#1798 [12:27] <Kealper> hmm?
#1799 [12:27] <longshotz38> its me the "restarting comp guy"
#1800 [12:27] <Kealper> oh lol
#1801 [12:27] <Kealper> ello
#1802 [12:27] <Kealper> fix it?
#1803 [12:27] <longshotz38> well i restarted it but now what
#1804 [12:27] <longshotz38> just start minecraft?
#1805 [12:27] <Kealper> try and run minecraft again
#1806 [12:27] <Kealper> yeah
#1807 [12:29] <longshotz38> same problem :(
#1808 [12:30] <longshotz38> is there any special reasons minecraft dosent work
#1809 [12:30] <Kealper> hmm...you've tried reinstalling minecraft?
#1810 [12:30] <longshotz38> just did
#1811 [12:30] <Kealper> i mean deleting the .minecraft/bin folder
#1812 [12:31] <Skyrider> Hey aetherian
#1813 [12:31] <longshotz38> i deleted the whole folder
#1814 [12:31] <Kealper> has it ever worked for you?
#1815 [12:31] <DopeGhoti> someone ping me?
#1816 [12:31] <longshotz38> nope
#1817 [12:31] <longshotz38> same problem for 2 months
#1818 [12:31] <Kealper> not that i know of, dope
#1819 [12:32] <Kealper> ok then, what sort of computer do you have? like what are the specs?
#1820 [12:32] <longshotz38> u want my dxdiag?
#1821 [12:32] <Kealper> that'd work
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#1823 [12:32] <Kealper> so i take it you were already down this road then?
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#1825 [12:32] <TheNytangel> i found a bunch of diamond, gold, and iron at the bottom of my map :D
#1826 [12:33] <longshotz38> http://pastebin.com/EpANc6Xx
#1827 [12:33] <longshotz38> and yes i was
#1828 [12:33] <TheNytangel> and lava.. i didnt like the lava.. it keelled me
#1829 [12:33] <longshotz38> that xales guy did the same thing
#1830 [12:34] <TheNytangel> and i found redstone
#1831 [12:34] <Kealper> longshotz38: how are you using 3.1 gigs of ram in that dxdiag?
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#1833 [12:34] <longshotz38> huh?
#1834 [12:35] <Kealper> nvm....
#1835 [12:35] <longshotz38> what does that mea
#1836 [12:35] <longshotz38> did i do something wrond
#1837 [12:35] <longshotz38> wrong
#1838 [12:35] <Kealper> no..probably not
#1839 [12:35] <Kealper> just high ram usage
#1840 [12:35] <longshotz38> oh well i had like 6 programs open :P
#1841 [12:35] <xales> what programs?
#1842 [12:36] <longshotz38> umm skype, steam, League of legends, youtube, and i was watching bleach.
#1843 [12:36] <Kealper> inb4 6 instances of minecraft
#1844 [12:36] <longshotz38> :D
#1845 [12:37] <Kealper> hmm....
#1846 [12:37] <longshotz38> soo,,,
#1847 [12:38] * Kealper is pondering
#1847 [12:39] <Kealper> yeah i've got nothin'
#1848 [12:39] <longshotz38> well.
#1849 [12:39] <longshotz38> im gonna sue minecraft brb
#1850 [12:39] <longshotz38> :(
#1851 [12:39] <longshotz38> now what do i do
#1852 [12:39] <Kealper> do you know how to make a new windows user account on your computer?
#1853 [12:39] <xales> ?? win/profile
#1854 [12:40] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1855 [12:40] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1856 [12:40] <longshotz38> ok ill try that
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#1860 [12:47] <longshotz38> it worked
#1861 [12:47] <longshotz38> i love you@#$@#$@#$@#
#1862 [12:47] <smile> can anyone help? i was trying to host a private server so a friend and me could play we bought the game but dont really get how to make it work
#1863 [12:47] <longshotz38> so much
#1864 [12:47] <xales> ??> smile specific
#1865 [12:47] <Kealper> longshotz38: that's not a good thing then :/
#1866 [12:47] <VoxelHead> smile: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1867 [12:47] <VoxelHead> smile: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1868 [12:47] <Kealper> longshotz38: it means your windows account is messed up :?
#1869 [12:47] <Kealper> :/*
#1870 [12:48] <longshotz38> hmm why?
#1871 [12:48] <longshotz38> how do i fix it
#1872 [12:48] <Kealper> lots of things could cause it....
#1873 [12:48] <longshotz38> hmm
#1874 [12:48] <Kealper> easiest way would just to be to rename that new windows user account as "Minecraft" and use that to play O.o
#1875 [12:48] <longshotz38> like a program
#1876 [12:49] <Kealper> probably some messed up settings
#1877 [12:49] <longshotz38> yah thats what ill do
#1878 [12:49] <longshotz38> but ill just use my guest account
#1879 [12:49] <longshotz38> thanks for the help
#1880 [12:49] <Kealper> and since windows has many settings...it could literally be one in a million things
#1881 [12:49] <longshotz38> i love you..... o.O
#1882 [12:49] <longshotz38> goodbye
#1883 [12:49] <longshotz38> thanks for everything
#1884 [12:49] <Kealper> np....lol
#1885 [12:49] <DopeGhoti> (aren't you glad I brought that trick into our toolkit?)
#1886 [12:50] <xales> DopeGhoti: <3
#1887 [12:52] <Kealper> i gotta remember about that thing lol...made explaining that 10x easier o.o
#1888 [12:53] <DopeGhoti> heh, that's why I wrote it
#1889 [12:54] <Kealper> i think...imma migrate out to my main
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#1891 [12:54] <xarcus> Hey
#1892 [12:55] <xarcus> It There a Webpage for the requirement of Running a MineCrafy Server
#1893 [12:56] <xarcus> Hardware Requirements, that is
#1894 [12:56] <xales> Nope, they are pretty steep unfortunately
#1895 [12:56] <xales> estimate 200MB of RAM per player
#1896 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> With a base of 1GiB
#1897 [12:57] <xales> just for Minecraft, not total on the computer
#1898 [12:57] <xarcus> K, thanks
#1899 [12:57] <xales> If you have a computer with 2GB of RAM, and are using Windows, that will not be enough
#1900 [12:57] <xales> because Minecraft will not be able to allocate it's minimum of 1GB
#1901 [12:58] <xales> and DG, it's 1GB
#1902 [12:58] <xales> because Java is ass-backwards
#1903 [12:58] <DopeGhoti> the extra 24MiB is for the OS's housekeeping of the JVM (:
#1904 [12:59] <xales> :P
#1905 [12:59] <aetherian> it should hire a maid
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#1907 [13:01] <raisin> hi
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#1909 [13:01] <raisin> when i bought minecraft
#1910 [13:01] <raisin> and downloaded it
#1911 [13:01] <RemixMiner> What was the Bukkit channel again? #Bukkit ?
#1912 [13:01] <raisin> and tried to login
#1913 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> ?? irc/flood
#1914 [13:01] <xales> RemixMiner: yes
#1915 [13:01] <VoxelHead> irc/flood: Please don't flood the channel; don't use the Enter key as a comma. If you have a lot to say, it's a lot easier for everyone to read if you contain it all on one line, and it makes the channel easier to follow. Thanks.
#1916 [13:02] <raisin> mkay sorry
#1917 [13:02] <raisin> so hen i tried to login, it said im not premium yet, @xales still not working
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#1919 [13:02] <aetherian> what?
#1920 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> raisin: how long ago did you make the purchase? What is the usename you selected?
#1921 [13:03] <aetherian> we can't use enter as a comma
#1922 [13:03] <aetherian> now
#1923 [13:03] <raisin> The username was EpicLobster, purchase was yesterday think about 22 hours ago if im correct
#1924 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> !paid EpicLobster
#1925 [13:03] <aetherian> I was bout to do that >.>
#1926 [13:03] <raisin> ?!
#1927 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> raisin: Did you purchase via PayPal or with a credit card?
#1928 [13:04] <aetherian> raisin: bot
#1929 [13:04] * Kealper rocks out with Foo Fighters really loud
#1929 [13:04] <raisin> creditcard
#1930 [13:04] <aetherian> o.o kelps
#1931 [13:04] <Kealper> i hope my neighbors like this music >.>
#1932 [13:04] <xales> Kealper: :P
#1933 [13:04] <raisin> but aybe the payment didnt get tru
#1934 [13:04] <xales> I don't even have speakers that can play music that louad D:
#1935 [13:04] <Kealper> because i sure as heck don't like what they play at 3am
#1936 [13:04] <DopeGhoti> I understand those transactions can take longer to process, because the CC company takes the payment first and only notifies Mojang when it goes through. Give it a few more hours?
#1937 [13:04] <raisin> and i dont want to pay 2 times for thath
#1938 [13:05] <aetherian> there's always worse, Kealper
#1939 [13:05] <Kealper> meh
#1940 [13:05] <raisin> wait some more ?
#1941 [13:05] <DopeGhoti> raisin: you should see the pending thransaction of your purchase on your CC's transaction log
#1942 [13:05] <raisin> acctually
#1943 [13:05] <aetherian> I've been woken up to the sound of music from little orphan annie >.>
#1944 [13:05] <raisin> it was mastercard
#1945 [13:05] <aetherian> ohhh, the sun will come out, tomorrow!
#1946 [13:06] <raisin> and my mom paid for it since im only 15
#1947 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> raisin: Yes, I would wait a bit longer, but you can also call the number on the back of your credit card to confirm the transaction
#1948 [13:06] <DopeGhoti> (or have your mother do so at it's her card)
#1949 [13:06] <raisin> sec
#1950 [13:08] <xales> Kealper
#1951 [13:08] <Kealper> hmm?
#1952 [13:08] <xales> pathetic speakers are pathetic: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/IMG_20110218_130608.jpg
#1953 [13:09] <raisin> ok, my mom told me thath i should wait some more hours and then she will call the credit card company
#1954 [13:10] <Kealper> mine are nice ones... 2 50w tweeters and 2 100w subs, 300w amp
#1955 [13:10] <aetherian> ;_;
#1956 [13:10] <aetherian> all I got is built in sound
#1957 [13:10] <Kealper> it's at 10 out of 30 for volume and my keyboard keys are rattling
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#1959 [13:10] <aetherian> turn it up to 30 then
#1960 [13:11] <Kealper> i'd prefer to not go deaf by age 40 and have to pick all the stuff that was onces sitting on my desk off the floor lol
#1961 [13:11] <aetherian> xales: I dig the chex mix
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#1963 [13:12] <xales> aetherian: :P
#1964 [13:12] <aetherian> :D
#1965 [13:12] * aetherian nitpicks at pictures like that
#1965 [13:12] <xales> Kealper: They came with this POS
#1966 [13:12] <xales> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/IMG_20110218_131049.jpg
#1967 [13:13] <aetherian> why is there a cd underneath a bunch of stuff?
#1968 [13:13] <xales> aetherian: I dropped it it something
#1969 [13:13] <xales> I'm messy. Deal with it
#1970 [13:13] <aetherian> and this is your place?
#1971 [13:13] <xales> Compare to: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/IMG_20110218_131143.jpg <-- real computer
#1972 [13:13] <aetherian> nonono
#1973 [13:13] <aetherian> it's like
#1974 [13:13] <aetherian> underneath a crate
#1975 [13:14] <xales> yes
#1976 [13:14] <aetherian> pfft, xales, halo. bleh.
#1977 [13:14] <xales> it's called using limited space
#1978 [13:14] <xales> put stuff on other stuff
#1979 [13:14] <xales> :P
#1980 [13:14] <raisin> btw
#1981 [13:14] <aetherian> uh
#1982 [13:14] <aetherian> normally
#1983 [13:14] <aetherian> you put the disc on top
#1984 [13:14] <xales> um
#1985 [13:15] <xales> the disk is just some random thing
#1986 [13:15] <raisin> if i finally get Minecraft, is there a possability thath i can get into a online server where peaple cant destroy my house ?
#1987 [13:15] <xales> I don't even know what's on it
#1988 [13:15] <xales> raisin: depends on the server
#1989 [13:15] <aetherian> take it out from under there >:
#1990 [13:15] <xales> aetherian: make me
#1991 [13:15] <raisin> Like in some servers you cant destroy other peaple houses ?
#1992 [13:15] * aetherian makes xales
#1992 [13:15] <aetherian> raisin: special server software
#1993 [13:16] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/zeGYA.jpg
#1994 [13:16] <raisin> And i should look up server IP's on forums ?
#1995 [13:16] <xales> raisin: http://minestatus.net/
#1996 [13:17] <Kealper> you can really see the shineyness of my desk...that finish turned out nice lol
#1997 [13:17] <aetherian> Kealper: turn it uuuuppppp
#1998 [13:17] <aetherian> I need a new desk...
#1999 [13:17] <xales> Kealper: nice monitor :P
#2000 [13:17] <Kealper> that's my irc monitor lol
#2001 [13:17] <xales> lol
#2002 [13:18] <aetherian> my desk is too small >.>
#2003 [13:18] <raisin> N/A stands for unlim players ?
#2004 [13:18] <xales> there is no unlimited players
#2005 [13:18] <Kealper> i made sure i made this desk nice and perfectly large...my other one was far too small
#2006 [13:18] <aetherian> laptop, standup calendar, warhammer stuff...
#2007 [13:18] <xales> N/A means it doesn't know
#2008 [13:18] <aetherian> the crucial things
#2009 [13:18] <raisin> ooh okay thank you
#2010 [13:19] <Sir_Deagle> Oi. Is reinstalling OS only solution to "Could not create the Java virtual machine" since even the .bat files didnt work for me? I did try to delete and reinstall Java, but no luck.
#2011 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> ??> Sir_Deagle win/profile
#2012 [13:19] <VoxelHead> Sir_Deagle: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2013 [13:19] <VoxelHead> Sir_Deagle: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2014 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> try that first
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#2016 [13:19] <xales> hehe
#2017 [13:19] <xales> aetherian:
#2018 [13:19] <xales> one sec
#2019 [13:20] <raisin> If i loh in on minecraft webstie is there a way to see thath the payment got tru
#2020 [13:20] <nom> hey, anybody wanna take a look at this thread? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=178067
#2021 [13:20] <nom> me and at least 2 others have the same problem
#2022 [13:20] <xales> aetherian: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/IMG_20110218_131816.jpg
#2023 [13:20] <aetherian> xales: gonna torment me by putton all your cd's under your monitor?
#2024 [13:20] <nom> tried a lot of stuff, nothing seems to work, and it only happens with the newest version of minecraft
#2025 [13:20] <DopeGhoti> raisin: that's what the bot checks via the !paid command.
#2026 [13:20] <aetherian> xales: <33333333
#2027 [13:20] <raisin> !paid EpicLobster
#2028 [13:20] <raisin> mkay
#2029 [13:20] <xales> nom: have you tried turning down the view distance and the graphics to fast?
#2030 [13:21] <nom> yup
#2031 [13:21] <nom> seems not related
#2032 [13:21] <aetherian> I'd jump on the bandwagon and take a picture of my desk too, but I don't know where any cameras are
#2033 [13:21] <aetherian> or any camera to computer cables
#2034 [13:21] <nom> even tried FPS boosting stuff, got it to the point where it was EXTREMELY smooth, but still froze every 1 - 5 mins
#2035 [13:21] <Sir_Deagle> I use WinXP pro and I currently got only 1 userprofile. The game worked yesterday, but i today installed antivirus and firewall softwares and BOM I got the error
#2036 [13:21] <xales> Sir_Deagle: That would be why
#2037 [13:21] <xales> what antivirus?
#2038 [13:21] <nom> in fact, turning down view distance and graphics was the FIRST thing i tried...
#2039 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> nom retro
#2040 [13:21] <VoxelHead> nom: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#2041 [13:21] <Sir_Deagle> I also tried to allow everything java and minecraft related through firewall and antivirus
#2042 [13:21] <VoxelHead> nom: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#2043 [13:22] <Sir_Deagle> AVG + ZoneAlarm. Both free versions.
#2044 [13:22] <xales> Sir_Deagle: Specifically, what antivirus and firewall did you install
#2045 [13:22] <nom> uh
#2046 [13:22] <xales> That's why
#2047 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> nom: Minecraft is _not_ a 'lot resrouce' game
#2048 [13:22] <xales> ??> Sir_Deagle fubar/zonealarm
#2049 [13:22] <VoxelHead> Sir_Deagle: (fubar/zonealarm) Don't use ZoneAlarm. It's bloated, resource-heavy software that does more harm than good, and in fact is known to cause problems with Minecraft specifically, such as connecting to servers and falling endlessly through the void, or even crashing servers entirely.
#2050 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> er, 'low'
#2051 [13:22] <VoxelHead> Sir_Deagle: (fubar/zonealarm) Official report thread about ZA-induce server crashes is here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crashes_in_multiplayer_socketexception_if_firewa
#2052 [13:22] <nom> what?
#2053 [13:22] <nom> so?
#2054 [13:22] <nom> i have a dual core processor and a dedicated video card.
#2055 [13:22] <nom> 1.2.0.1 runs FINE
#2056 [13:22] <nom> perfectly smooth
#2057 [13:22] <nom> no freezing
#2058 [13:22] <nom> no locking.
#2059 [13:22] <xales> 1.2.0.1?
#2060 [13:22] <xales> you mean 1.2_02?
#2061 [13:22] <nom> 1.2.0.2 fcrashes every 1 - 4 mins
#2062 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Also a pirated version, which isn't supported officially at all
#2063 [13:22] <nom> whatever you want wto call it.
#2064 [13:22] * VoxelHead kicked nom from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: flood)
#2065 [13:22] <aetherian> lol
#2066 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> nom: just giving you all the facts. In your post, you call Minecraft a 'low resource game' and I wanted to correct that misinformation
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#2068 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> nom: just giving you all the facts. In your post, you call Minecraft a 'low resource game' and I wanted to correct that misinformation
#2069 [13:23] <aetherian> double post
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#2071 [13:23] <nom> i didnt say it was a low resource game
#2072 [13:23] <aetherian> double post
#2073 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you did
#2074 [13:23] <aetherian> he didn't, actually
#2075 [13:23] <nom> no
#2076 [13:23] <nom> i didnt.
#2077 [13:23] <aetherian> not that I saw
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#2079 [13:23] * aetherian scrolls
#2079 [13:23] <ajvpot> !check mc.spacedjase.com
#2080 [13:23] <ajvpot> woohoo!
#2081 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> nastjuid: ah, that's not _your_ post, just one you linked. My bad.
#2082 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> I had left the game running for about 7 hours (being a low resource game, I didn't think it would hurt).
#2083 [13:23] <xales> GreyVulpine: ninja'd me D:
#2084 [13:23] <nom> i linked it because it describes the problem. that is all.
#2085 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> "I had left the game running for about 7 hours (being a low resource game, I didn't think it would hurt). "
#2086 [13:24] <nom> i only get this problem when i run the newest version of minecraft. if i run an unsupported, pirated version, i do not get this problem.
#2087 [13:24] <nom> grey: i did not say that.
#2088 [13:24] <nom> you're reading osmebody elses post.
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#2090 [13:24] <Sir_Deagle> Well I doubt I can blame ZA on my problems, because i did try turning it off as well. Guess I got to uninstall those both and try again.
#2091 [13:24] <aetherian> I don't see it, grey
#2092 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> Sir_Deagle: ZoneAlarm, even when "off", will still f[bleep]k your s[bleep]t up.
#2093 [13:24] <nom> and im not running a pirated version. i have bought and purchased the game, and i have that version. im just saying THAT VERSION does not work. older versions do, however.
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#2095 [13:25] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: don't censor, just use euphemisms >.>
#2096 [13:25] <raisin> Some of the Admins/ OP dutch or earopean
#2097 [13:25] <raisin> ?
#2098 [13:25] <aetherian> ear open?
#2099 [13:25] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/hTD4n.jpg
#2100 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Okay then nom - Could you give us more information on what exactly is happening with your system?
#2101 [13:25] <raisin> European
#2102 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Do you have your task manager open when these freezes are taking place?
#2103 [13:25] <aetherian> Kealper: I fear what those scissors are used for...
#2104 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Can you give us info on what sort of CPU/RAM usage it's taking up on your system, nom?
#2105 [13:26] <raisin> If i want to check if my payment got tru in the morning ?
#2106 [13:26] <Kealper> aetherian: wiring
#2107 [13:26] <nom> grey: minecraft usuaully uses 5 - 10% of my CPU. when it freezes it spikes up to 100% and never drops
#2108 [13:26] <xales> I need another monitor =/
#2109 [13:26] <aetherian> nooooooo
#2110 [13:26] <nom> until i close it
#2111 [13:26] * aetherian shivers all over
#2111 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> nom win/reinst
#2112 [13:26] <VoxelHead> nom: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2113 [13:26] <VoxelHead> nom: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2114 [13:26] <nom> it also uses upwards of 1.5 gigs of ram, and it usually only uses about 400 - 500 megs
#2115 [13:26] <nom> i already did that.
#2116 [13:26] <nom> any other ideas?
#2117 [13:26] <xales> ??> nom win/profile
#2118 [13:26] <VoxelHead> nom: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2119 [13:26] <VoxelHead> nom: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2120 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what sort of pirated version it was?
#2121 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> DId it leave any sort of files behind?
#2122 [13:27] <nom> i deleted everything. im not a computer newbie.
#2123 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Was there an installer?
#2124 [13:27] <nom> no
#2125 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Tell me about the pirated version.
#2126 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> Even so, try making a new user.
#2127 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> What was it
#2128 [13:27] <nom> it was just the previous version that dropped less lapis.
#2129 [13:27] <xales> Where did you get it from?
#2130 [13:28] <nom> why does this matter? i dont even have it anymore
#2131 [13:28] * GreyVulpine sighs
#2131 [13:28] <nom> i purchased the game
#2132 [13:28] <nom> i deleted EVERYTHING
#2133 [13:28] <xales> where did you get it from
#2134 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Because, the pirated version may have caused some problems
#2135 [13:28] <nom> how? it's gone.
#2136 [13:28] <xales> If you aren't going to answer the question, we aren't going to help you
#2137 [13:28] <nom> because i dont know the answer.
#2138 [13:28] <xales> how could you not know?
#2139 [13:28] <nom> i get software from at least 10 difference places.
#2140 [13:29] <nom> lol
#2141 [13:29] * GreyVulpine sighs
#2141 [13:29] <nom> it was a torrent
#2142 [13:29] <nom> if that helps?
#2143 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Not in the least.
#2144 [13:29] <nom> well, what could it have left behind?
#2145 [13:29] <xales> Try creating a new user, as you have now been told a couple times
#2146 [13:29] <nom> that i didn't delete?
#2147 [13:29] <raisin> Most pirated versions of Minecraft come from mediafire/ megaupload
#2148 [13:29] * GreyVulpine shakes
#2148 [13:30] <aetherian> xales: good luck D:
#2149 [13:30] <nom> I shouldn't have mentioned piracy. now no matter what kind of problem i have, it will simply be blamed on that.
#2150 [13:30] <nom> even though it was just a working, vanilla copy
#2151 [13:30] <nom> that i enjoyed.
#2152 [13:30] * Hulkeen is now g0ne -(AutoAway after 30min idle) - (bd-s) -
#2152 [13:30] <aetherian> nom: how do you know that
#2153 [13:30] <xales> nom: if you aren't willing to try what we suggest, why are you here?
#2154 [13:30] <nom> i should just re-download it and play that version, since the newest version DOESN'T WORK
#2155 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> There are many things that pirated copy could have left on your system, that you couldn't know it left behind
#2156 [13:31] <xales> Hulkeen: Please don't use that in here
#2157 [13:31] <xales> aetherian, you too
#2158 [13:31] <nom> grey: like what? a virus?
#2159 [13:31] <nom> my computer is clean of those.
#2160 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2161 [13:31] <aetherian> xales: nowai
#2162 [13:31] <aetherian> I hardly use it, anyway
#2163 [13:31] <xales> aetherian, yes
#2164 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> How do you think it worked around minecraft's authentication servers to start with?
#2165 [13:31] <xales> aetherian, off anyway
#2166 [13:31] <aetherian> hardly as in I haven't for weeks
#2167 [13:31] <xales> aetherian, off.
#2168 [13:31] <nom> it didn't.
#2169 [13:31] <nom> i just "played offline"
#2170 [13:32] <aetherian> xales: who are you to tell if it's on or off if I don't use it
#2171 [13:32] <aetherian> o.o
#2172 [13:32] <aetherian> *how
#2173 [13:32] <xales> aetherian: turn it off :P or don't use it, at least
#2174 [13:32] <aetherian> I haven't been
#2175 [13:32] <aetherian> jeez
#2176 [13:32] <xales> k
#2177 [13:32] <aetherian> /away trololol
#2178 [13:32] <aetherian> o.o
#2179 [13:33] <raisin> Did i pay yet ? :D
#2180 [13:33] <nom> well, it seems this channel just has a few people that give the same generic, nonsenstical advice over and over. Too bad.
#2181 [13:33] <xales> raisin: It's going to take more tiime. Just be patient
#2182 [13:33] <nom> does anybody know of a place to get more official support?
#2183 [13:33] <raisin> Mkay
#2184 [13:34] * xales kicked nom from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: If you are going to have an attitude like that, you aren't welcome)
#2185 [13:34] <raisin> i still need to train thath skill( patient)
#2186 [13:34] * aetherian facepalms
#2186 [13:34] <aetherian> "same generic"
#2187 [13:34] <aetherian> yet he never tried it
#2188 [13:36] <Kealper> sounds like you people had fun while i was away making a sammich
#2189 [13:39] <aetherian> what kind
#2190 [13:39] <Kealper> random failnoobs
#2191 [13:40] <Kealper> so did he just like....pirate minecraft then expect to get help when it didn't work?
#2192 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> "But I only stole it as my first attempt at troubleshooting" doesn't earn a lot of sympathy from me either.
#2193 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Pirated minecraft, bought minecraft, had trouble.
#2194 [13:40] <xales> I lol'd
#2195 [13:40] <xales> 13:37:39 <xales> if it was a problem with the game, EVERYONE would have it
#2196 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> "At least he bought it."
#2197 [13:40] <xales> 13:37:40 <xales> they do not
#2198 [13:40] <xales> 13:37:44 <nom> at least 3 people have it
#2199 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> (allegedly)
#2200 [13:40] <aetherian> lmao
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#2202 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Mathuin
#2203 [13:41] <Mathuin> Howdy!
#2204 [13:41] <Mathuin> Busy day today?
#2205 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> Workin' hard on hardly workin' (:
#2206 [13:41] <Mathuin> Heh, same here.
#2207 [13:41] <Mathuin> So I was victorious with my ore generation code. I make some realistic looking/acting veins as far as I can tell without actually, you know, playing the game.
#2208 [13:42] <Kealper> lol
#2209 [13:42] <Mathuin> However, it did make me reconsider one of my original design decisions.
#2210 [13:42] <Mathuin> At this point, I base what's on the surface on what I see in the landcover files.
#2211 [13:43] <Mathuin> If there's supposed to be sand, I put sand.
#2212 [13:43] <Mathuin> That sand has a random depth of between 5 and 7 units, and then it's stone all the way down.
#2213 [13:43] <Kealper> is there a place where i can download this to test it out on my area? lol
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#2215 [13:44] <Mathuin> Sure. It's in Python, so if you're not comfortable with that it'll just piss you off, but it should work at least as well as something like OreGen.
#2216 [13:45] <Mathuin> Anyway, now I'm reconsidering that random layer on the top. It keeps me from having ore on the surface, which is good and bad.
#2217 [13:45] <Mathuin> So I thought maybe you guys might have some thoughts.
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#2219 [13:47] <xolotl> Mathuin: I'd love to chcek it out; bring on the Python!
#2220 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> Why no ore on the surface (for ores native to that Y-level)?
#2221 [13:47] <Kealper> hmm....it seems i uninstalled python...does this work best in 2.6, 2.7 or 3.0?
#2222 [13:48] <Mathuin> Kealper: 2.7
#2223 [13:48] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: if there's stone on the surface, there's a chance it'll get converted to ore.
#2224 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> thing?
#2225 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: ah
#2226 [13:48] <Mathuin> xolotl: https://github.com/mathuin/TopoMC
#2227 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> since you're generating terrain, a DF-like obsidian candy shell around natural magma might be neat
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#2229 [13:49] <xales> DopeGhoti: I pushed another .gitignore change by the way, added *.pyc
#2230 [13:49] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: I haven't started placing magma, was going to do that after figuring out how to do caves.
#2231 [13:49] <xales> still need to figure out why it's PyImport_Import doesn't work D:
#2232 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> Yay, another github project to watch!
#2233 [13:49] <xolotl> Mathuin: thx, will check it out over the weekend. :)
#2234 [13:50] <Mathuin> xolotl: there's a forum thread about it, if you want pictures.
#2235 [13:50] <xolotl> Mathuin: Cool cool; I'll search around for it later
#2236 [13:50] <xolotl> Mathuin: (at work and non-Minecraftable at the moment)
#2237 [13:51] <Mathuin> If you can view imgur URLs I can post some.
#2238 [13:51] <xolotl> Mathuin: Nah, will get it later. Access isn't the issue. :)
#2239 [13:51] <xolotl> Mathuin: Gotta stay in my xterms lest I end up wasting an hour in a browser
#2240 [13:52] <Kealper> why do i have to restart to install python? that's so gay
#2241 [13:52] <Mathuin> Prolly registry nonsense.
#2242 [13:52] <xolotl> Kealper: Hm, you shouldn't have to
#2243 [13:52] <Mathuin> xolotl: ahhhh, discipline. :-)
#2244 [13:52] <xolotl> Or hell, maybe you do. Been ages since I used it on Windows
#2245 [13:52] <Kealper> xolotl: it wanted me to....but i'm ignoring it...file associations are there, i couldn't care less about the one random thing it wants to restart for -.-
#2246 [13:53] <Mathuin> So, the question: having that layer of dirt/sand/non-stone between the surface and the stone-all-the-way-down keeps me from having ore really close to the surface in many places. Should I thin that layer out, down to maybe 3-5 units?
#2247 [13:53] <Mathuin> So when you dig down on the grass, after a couple of blocks, you hit stone?
#2248 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I don't think it has anything to do with sexual preference, not least because it's a computer program and thus doesn't _have_ sexual preferences.
#2249 [13:54] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: I dunno, I know some software that really likes to screw its users. :-P
#2250 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: I'd say allow that layer to have some zones thinner than others.
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#2252 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> so in some areas it's be 1-2 thick and in others it might be 7-10 thick
#2253 [13:54] * Kealper smacks DopeGhoti
#2253 [13:54] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: Hmmm. If I were truly crazy, instead of generating a random number for each column, I could generate an array and smooth it.
#2254 [13:54] <Kealper> with a large trout!
#2255 [13:55] <Mathuin> Like smearing mustard on the bread of a sandwich.
#2256 [13:55] <xales> Kealper, you need my
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#2258 [13:55] <xales> alias bigslap /me slaps $0 around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
#2259 [13:55] <Clicker> hey pplz
#2260 [13:55] <xales> hi Clicker
#2261 [13:55] <Mathuin> Hey Clicker.
#2262 [13:55] <Clicker> wuzzup overhere?
#2263 [13:55] * Kealper slaps AuBot around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
#2263 [13:55] <Kealper> lol
#2264 [13:56] * xales pwns AuBot
#2264 [13:56] <Sir_Deagle> Ok I feel pretty dumb now. Uninstalled ZA and minecraft works again like magic. ._.
#2265 [13:56] * xales Kealper ajvpot
#2265 [13:56] <xales> err
#2266 [13:56] * xales Kealper AuBot
#2266 [13:56] <ajvpot> xales, ?
#2267 [13:56] <ajvpot> lol
#2268 [13:56] <Kealper> you see what i did there?
#2269 [13:56] <Mathuin> Verbing wierds language.
#2270 [13:56] <xales> ajvpot: sorry, mistab :P
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#2272 [13:56] <ajvpot> np
#2273 [13:56] <Clicker> can some1 help plz? its about mods?
#2274 [13:56] <xales> ??> Clicker mods
#2275 [13:56] <VoxelHead> Clicker: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2276 [13:56] <VoxelHead> Clicker: (mods) For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2277 [13:56] <Kealper> damnit, ninja'd
#2278 [13:56] <Clicker> fuck bukkit
#2279 [13:57] <xales> fukkit?
#2280 [13:57] <Clicker> its laggy
#2281 [13:57] <Clicker> xD
#2282 [13:57] <xales> not if you are on a decent server
#2283 [13:57] <xales> :P
#2284 [13:57] <Abesh> Yeah lol
#2285 [13:57] <Abesh> Just gotta find a good one.
#2286 [13:57] <DopeGhoti> or if you have it installed through the 'wait for the official mod API' mod.
#2287 [13:57] <Clicker> any1 knows any self made mods like sdk gun mod, mods that works in smp?
#2288 [13:58] <xales> They don't
#2289 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> again, check #risucraft maybe?
#2290 [13:58] <Clicker> sdk gun mod works in smp
#2291 [13:58] <Clicker> rusicraft?
#2292 [13:58] <xales> '/join #risucraft'
#2293 [13:58] <Clicker> whats that mod?
#2294 [13:58] <xales> It's not a mod
#2295 [13:58] <Clicker> what it gives?
#2296 [13:58] <xales> it's an IRC channel
#2297 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> in which they talk about mods.
#2298 [13:59] <Clicker> i mean what that mod gives?
#2299 [13:59] <Clicker> ohh
#2300 [13:59] <Clicker> ok thx pplz x)
#2301 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#2302 [13:59] * PrincePheonix [PrincePheonix@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2303 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, PrincePheonix
#2304 [13:59] * DopeGhoti wasn't aware that Phoenix was the home of royalty.
#2304 [13:59] <PrincePheonix> can anyone donate some time to help me patch the game :( i can't get it to work
#2305 [14:00] <xales> "patch the game"?
#2306 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#2307 [14:00] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2308 [14:00] <VoxelHead> mods: For assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2309 [14:00] <PrincePheonix> HD texture patch fixer
#2310 [14:00] <xales> you'll have to ask elsewhere, sorry
#2311 [14:01] <PrincePheonix> it's for mcpatcher, does that have a chan?
#2312 [14:01] <xales> try #risucraft maybe
#2313 [14:01] <PrincePheonix> okay
#2314 [14:01] <xales> yeah, #risucraft can probably help with that
#2315 [14:01] <PrincePheonix> thank you :D
#2316 [14:03] <Mathuin> So back to my question. Dope, your idea of a smoothed layer has a lot of appeal. What about underwater? Should the layer of sand be thinner in deep water?
#2317 [14:04] <Abesh> Mathuin. Im not quite sure what your talking about. But it sounds reasonable.
#2318 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> I think it should also vary there, but could be as thin as 0 (i. e. rock-bottom)
#2319 [14:05] <xales> so Kealper, GreyVulpine, DopeGhoti, I have a new fix for you
#2320 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> ?
#2321 [14:05] <xales> Nom's problem seems to be resolved, and all he did was delete .minecraft and use the new launcher
#2322 [14:05] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#2322 [14:05] * aetherian facekeyboards
#2322 [14:06] * Kealper facedesks
#2322 [14:06] * xales faceaetherians
#2322 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmoDLyiQYKw
#2323 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Take a break with that
#2324 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> huh. I thought we told him to delete .minecraft.
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#2326 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> You did
#2327 [14:07] <Mathuin> http://imgur.com/X3rC3 <-- here's the map. Zoom in and look at the edges, and you can see little clumps of dirt gravel and the like.
#2328 [14:07] <Mathuin> But that sand layer along the bottom, I think I might make it scale with the depth.
#2329 [14:07] <Mathuin> So the bottom either has no sand or very little.
#2330 [14:09] <xales> oh, also, Kealper, GreyVulpine, DopeGhoti
#2331 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
#2332 [14:09] <xales> a very simple way of opening .minecraft has appeared
#2333 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Oroo?
#2334 [14:10] <xales> in the new launcher, there's a button to open it in Options
#2335 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Yay!
#2336 [14:10] <Kealper> that reminds me....i gotta get that new launcher and check it out
#2337 [14:10] * Kealper scrolls waaaay up
#2337 [14:10] <xales> AND to reinstall appdata
#2338 [14:10] <xales> err, the stuff in appdata
#2339 [14:10] <xales> http://darksigns.net/screenshots/SS-2011-02-18_14.10.43.png
#2340 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> yay and crap
#2341 [14:12] <Mathuin> Ooh pretty launcher, when do we get it?
#2342 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Out now
#2343 [14:12] <xales> well, not out
#2344 [14:12] <xales> just leaked, ish
#2345 [14:12] <Kealper> next tuesday/wednsday
#2346 [14:12] <Mathuin> Excellent.
#2347 [14:13] <xales> http://darksigns.net/xales/MinecraftLauncherLauncher.zip <-- tiny .NET thing to download and launch it for you
#2348 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Or just go to Notch's twitter
#2349 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/notch
#2350 [14:13] <xales> or
#2351 [14:13] <xales> 10:30:32 < notch> This will require some technical know-how: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/tmp/MinecraftLauncher.jar
#2352 [14:13] <Mathuin> I think I'm too old for twitter. :-P
#2353 [14:13] <xales> GreyVulpine: bitlbee >:D
#2354 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> <3 bitlbee
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#2356 [14:14] <xales> Debian-main, debian-unstable AND debian-backports
#2357 [14:14] <xales> all had a year-old version
#2358 [14:14] <xales> D:
#2359 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> that new launcher does look nice
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#2361 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> xales: *buntu's is slightly more modern, but I'm using bitlbee's own Ubuntu repo now
#2362 [14:15] <xales> DopeGhoti: I just compiled it myself :P
#2363 [14:15] <xales> 14:15:22 [localhost] -!- bitlbee-3.0.1. localhost Linux/i686
#2364 [14:18] <Mathuin> New launcher looks pretty but won't let me type in my username or password, even when I click on the windows. Mew.
#2365 [14:18] <xales> I've heard someone else having that problem
#2366 [14:18] <xales> also, inb4 netsplit
#2367 [14:19] <xales> ping timeouts = never a good thin
#2368 [14:19] <xales> g
#2369 [14:19] <Mathuin> Is it worth reporting or should I just wait for the formal release?
#2370 [14:19] <Kealper> formal
#2371 [14:19] <Mathuin> Fair enough.
#2372 [14:19] <Mathuin> Also, ugh that javaw error looks so unprofessional. :-(
#2373 [14:19] <Kealper> i'm sure there is still a bit of tweeking to be done over the weekend before this is released forrealz
#2374 [14:19] <Mathuin> No rush.
#2375 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: new launcher worked for me :p
#2376 [14:20] <Mathuin> Ubuntu Netbook Edition here, dunno what Java offhand.
#2377 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> and yes, my immediate throughtbubble was 'javaw? really? on POSIX? Nice.'
#2378 [14:20] <Kealper> XD
#2379 [14:21] <Kealper> xales: what does your launcher exe do exactly?
#2380 [14:21] <Kealper> just launch it with allocation params?
#2381 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> wait, xales made a launcherlauncher?
#2382 [14:22] <xales> http://darksigns.net/screenshots/SS-2011-02-18_14.21.56.png
#2383 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> how.. meta
#2384 [14:22] <Clicker> aww
#2385 [14:23] <Kealper> oh, so it just downloads it if it's not there, then runs it if it's there? fair enough
#2386 [14:23] <xales> yup
#2387 [14:23] <Clicker> why there is no smp mod besides sdk gun mod...
#2388 [14:23] <Mathuin> Ask in #smp ?
#2389 [14:23] * Kealper makes a quick exe in autoit to give it the minecraft icon
#2389 [14:23] <xales> Kealper, I could give it an icon
#2390 [14:23] <xales> too lzy
#2391 [14:23] <Clicker> i asked in risucraft
#2392 [14:24] <xales> DopeGhoti, by the way
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#2394 [14:24] <xales> can you come up with an interface for how the C++ code should call Python?
#2395 [14:24] <Kealper> this was going to have the jar reshacked into it...only for personal use though
#2396 [14:24] <xales> a callback structure, or what?
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#2398 [14:25] <xales> the way I did it with Lua, was it called the Lua file, which just saved the functions for each event into an array
#2399 [14:25] <xales> the program just looped through the array when the events occured, calling each functions
#2400 [14:25] <xales> -s
#2401 [14:25] <Clicker> there is way using single player mod files to work in smp xD?
#2402 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> I'll see what I can do
#2403 [14:25] <Clicker> I know there is none just asked xD
#2404 [14:25] <xales> Clicker: No. Again, don't ask here
#2405 [14:27] <xales> so, now begins my IRC guide
#2406 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> /quit is all the command you need
#2407 [14:29] <xales> :P
#2408 [14:30] * Mathuin now has a bad Beatles cover band in his head. "All you need is quit -- don't forget the slash --"
#2408 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> xales: If you want to crib notes from my not-entirely-RFC-complaint IRC bot, you're welcome to.
#2409 [14:31] <xales> DopeGhoti: sure, thanks
#2410 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> xales: http://pastebin.com/zeKsFLiY
#2411 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> feel free to critique my code; this was my first time using sockets.
#2412 [14:35] <ItsCriminal> cant login anymore
#2413 [14:35] * GreyVulpine channels The Critique, "It Sucks"
#2413 [14:35] <Kealper> you forgot to import antigravity :<
#2414 [14:35] <ItsCriminal> just sais Login Failed
#2415 [14:36] <ItsCriminal> lol o.O downloading packages ?
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#2417 [14:38] <raisin> hi
#2418 [14:38] <Mathuin> Kaboom?
#2419 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#2420 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2421 [14:39] <raisin> its me again can somewone do the pay not pay thingi
#2422 [14:39] <raisin> ?
#2423 [14:39] <aetherian> 'lo
#2424 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> pay.. not pay thingi?
#2425 [14:39] <aetherian> !paid raisin
#2426 [14:39] <aetherian> aww
#2427 [14:39] <raisin> thath one
#2428 [14:39] <raisin> :D
#2429 [14:39] <raisin> EpicLobster
#2430 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> raisin: just log into the site; once logged in, if you still see the "Buy now for 25% off" baloon in the corner, it's not processed.
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#2432 [14:39] <deem> is there any default admin command in the beta version to destroy lots of blocks at once? except mass generating tnt and blow all up.
#2433 [14:39] <aetherian> slow aubot is slow
#2434 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> deem: well, you can delete the chunk file
#2435 [14:40] <raisin> my username is EpicLobster
#2436 [14:40] <deem> i do need the chunks tho ;)
#2437 [14:41] <raisin> DopeGhoti so if it does not say the baloon thingi, i can play ?
#2438 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> raisin: if it's gone, your account is premium and you're good to go, yes.
#2439 [14:41] <raisin> minecraft webstie is going bit slow
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#2441 [14:42] <Mathuin> !paid mathuin
#2442 [14:42] <Mathuin> Awww.
#2443 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> You'd rather not've?
#2444 [14:42] <aetherian> !paid everyone
#2445 [14:42] <xales> !disable
#2446 [14:42] <raisin> still says the baloon :(§
#2447 [14:42] <aetherian> y'all piraters
#2448 [14:43] <raisin> I want to play MINECRAFT !! :D
#2449 [14:43] <Kealper> i should make the !enable and !disable commands ignore the spam timer
#2450 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: no, just the !disable one.
#2451 [14:44] <raisin> Am i spamming ?
#2452 [14:44] <Mathuin> !ping
#2453 [14:44] <Mathuin> *cries*
#2454 [14:44] <Kealper> well, only we can use those commands anyways, so it's not like it would be in danger of being abused
#2455 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> raisin: not as such.
#2456 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: true, but still.
#2457 [14:44] <Mathuin> Dope: my Awww was more "yay it knows"
#2458 [14:45] <raisin> Ow srry
#2459 [14:45] <raisin> ill leave
#2460 [14:45] <Kealper> mostly just so it still says that it has been disabled even if someone has spammed a fwe sec ago
#2461 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> raisin: No need to leave; just checking every five minutes it a bit excessive.
#2462 [14:47] <raisin> Acctually
#2463 [14:47] <raisin> its being 90minutes
#2464 [14:47] <Kealper> you can PM AuBot those commands, you know o.o
#2465 [14:47] <aetherian> you can?
#2466 [14:47] <Kealper> yes? lol
#2467 [14:47] <raisin> please dont act like im a retard
#2468 [14:48] <aetherian> uhh
#2469 [14:48] <raisin> i dont know the functions of this chat
#2470 [14:48] <raisin> i appreciate it
#2471 [14:48] <aetherian> in a query or a msg?
#2472 [14:48] <Kealper> aetherian: arn't those one and the same?
#2473 [14:48] <aetherian> oh wait, it's disabled
#2474 [14:48] <Kealper> !enable
#2475 [14:48] <aetherian> >.>
#2476 [14:49] <aetherian> but
#2477 [14:49] <aetherian> there's no !ping for him
#2478 [14:49] <aetherian> ;_;
#2479 [14:49] <raisin> !PAID EpicLobster
#2480 [14:49] <raisin> aww :D
#2481 [14:49] <aetherian> gesp
#2482 [14:49] <raisin> i know the trick now anyway
#2483 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: so don't use !ping, use /ping
#2484 [14:49] <raisin> thath DopeGhoti told me
#2485 [14:49] <Kealper> and raisin, i can't just magically know how much you understand IRC, you got on here so i assumed you knew about private messages
#2486 [14:49] <aetherian> /ping is different if I am using it
#2487 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but it's less chatty to persons who _don't care_.
#2488 [14:50] <Kealper> i guess i should stop assuming so much
#2489 [14:50] <raisin> Kealper i dont get your point?
#2490 [14:50] <aetherian> exactly, DopeGhoti, I'm doing it for you.
#2491 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: you know what they say about assumption. "It makes an ass out of U and .. umption."
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#2493 [14:50] <Kealper> lol
#2494 [14:50] <aetherian> umpire T ions?
#2495 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Odysimus
#2496 [14:50] <aetherian> 'lo, Odysimus
#2497 [14:51] <raisin> leaving
#2498 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> ciao, raisin
#2499 [14:51] <raisin> Bye
#2500 [14:51] <aetherian> leave now >:O
#2501 [14:51] <raisin> ?
#2502 [14:51] <aetherian> bye :)
#2503 [14:51] <aetherian> >:)
#2504 [14:51] <raisin> mkay :D
#2505 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> raisin: pay aetherian no mind; he's just abrasive.
#2506 [14:51] <aetherian> I'm sandy like that :O
#2507 [14:52] <Kealper> greybot y u no stay connected
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#2509 [14:52] <aetherian> uhh
#2510 [14:52] <aetherian> I'm not sure if abrasion is the right word
#2511 [14:52] <Kealper> abrasive means rough
#2512 [14:52] <aetherian> unless you're saying I'm so kind it rubs off on other people :D
#2513 [14:52] <aetherian> oh
#2514 [14:52] <aetherian> well then
#2515 [14:52] <Kealper> as in...rough on people
#2516 [14:52] <aetherian> be that way >:
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#2518 [14:53] * aetherian is faux rough
#2518 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> salutations and greetings, xydra. What needs in your day can #MineCraftHelp fullfil?
#2519 [14:53] <aetherian> 'ey 'ere, 'ydra
#2520 [14:53] <aetherian> great, now I look uncultured >.>
#2521 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> "look"?
#2522 [14:53] <Kealper> CTCP PING reply from AuBot: 0.423 seconds
#2523 [14:53] <xydra> hi :D
#2524 [14:53] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: yes, look.
#2525 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> (did I type that out loud?)
#2526 [14:53] <Kealper> xD
#2527 [14:54] * aetherian slaps dopeghoti for aubot
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#2528 [14:54] <aetherian> thank you, aubot
#2529 [14:54] <aetherian> haha
#2530 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> aetherian irc/bots
#2531 [14:54] <VoxelHead> aetherian: (irc/bots) The bots in this channel are meant to be used for assisting users in need of help
#2532 [14:54] <VoxelHead> aetherian: (irc/bots) Abuse of the bots will have you removed from the channel. If you aren't using the bot for it's intended purpose, you ARE abusing it
#2533 [14:55] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: then have that thing taken out
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#2535 [14:55] <Serrix> Hello
#2536 [14:55] <aetherian> I didn't even mean to have the thank you, aubot have a reply, I had forgotten about that.
#2537 [14:55] <aetherian> dammit aubot
#2538 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> hello, Serrix
#2539 [14:55] <aetherian> hello, Serrix
#2540 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> how can we be of assistance this fine Friday?
#2541 [14:55] <xydra> i bought a gift code 4 days ago, when i get it?
#2542 [14:56] <Rui_rui> So how do you make a seperate server if you already have one up?
#2543 [14:56] <aetherian> you don't, Rui_rui
#2544 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> xydra: log in to the site, look at your Profile page; it should be there.
#2545 [14:56] <Serrix> Mine is about the skins.
#2546 [14:56] <xales> Rui_rui: copy the binary to a new folder, and create a new server.properties with a different port
#2547 [14:56] <Rui_rui> Binary?
#2548 [14:56] <xales> the .exe or .jar
#2549 [14:56] <Rui_rui> Okay, I'll try that.
#2550 [14:57] <aetherian> I shall be back later, maybe
#2551 [14:57] <Serrix> Well, I need help with the skins on the main Minecraft.net?
#2552 [14:57] <Serrix> I try to upload a file, but it never seems to go through.
#2553 [14:57] <xydra> thanks ;D
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#2555 [14:57] <nowhereman[MCXA]> sup
#2556 [14:57] <Serrix> Hey.
#2557 [14:58] <nowhereman[MCXA]> I just got the game and I need a little help
#2558 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> Serrix: yes?
#2559 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> oh, I was scolled up. n/m
#2560 [14:58] <nowhereman[MCXA]> My computer that I am on right now... sucks
#2561 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> Serrix: they skin probably uploaded even though the site doesn't shot them; check in-game
#2562 [14:58] <nowhereman[MCXA]> I wish to try a different computer
#2563 [14:58] <Serrix> Dope: Okay.
#2564 [14:59] <nowhereman[MCXA]> What files do I need to grab from this computer in order to ensure that I don't lose my saved game?
#2565 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/saves
#2566 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/savefiles
#2567 [14:59] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#2568 [14:59] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
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#2570 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> sorry, wrong one..
#2571 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? .minecraft/windows
#2572 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? .minecraft/win
#2573 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> god dammit
#2574 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/.minecraft
#2575 [15:00] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#2576 [15:00] <feenyx> ?? win/reinst
#2577 [15:00] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2578 [15:00] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2579 [15:00] <feenyx> it's also there
#2580 [15:00] <Kealper> that thing needs some super standardizing
#2581 [15:00] <Mathuin> Kealper: or indexing.
#2582 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I just did, I forgot that I did so, heh
#2583 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> also, temporary index at IIRC ??index
#2584 [15:00] <xales> Kealper, DopeGhoti, http://xales.pastebin.com/YYSK7Q36
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#2586 [15:01] <Kealper> :o
#2587 [15:01] <xales> not done yet
#2588 [15:01] <xales> what do you think, though?
#2589 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> xales: 70s, not 80s IIRC
#2590 [15:02] <xales> 1988
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#2592 [15:02] <Kealper> the first offical RFC for the IRC protocol was done in like 1985
#2593 [15:02] <Kealper> meh, i said like
#2594 [15:02] <xales> IRC was created by Jarkko Oikarinen in August 1988 to replace a program called MUT (MultiUser Talk) on a BBS called OuluBox in Finland
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#2596 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Wow, the RFC wasn't written 'till 1993
#2597 [15:02] <BillTheCrazyCat> Hey, can someone help me with this redstone problem?
#2598 [15:02] <xales> ?? specific
#2599 [15:03] <BillTheCrazyCat> the line is less than 15 long
#2600 [15:03] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2601 [15:03] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2602 [15:03] <xales> well, that more applies to errors
#2603 [15:03] <xales> but what's the problem?
#2604 [15:03] <BillTheCrazyCat> yet frequently the signal doesn't travel all the way to the end
#2605 [15:03] <BillTheCrazyCat> if I break the line and reconnect it it works again
#2606 [15:03] <xales> can you take a screenshot of it?
#2607 [15:03] <BillTheCrazyCat> but then later the problem reappears
#2608 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> BillTheCrazyCat: are there any mods on the server?
#2609 [15:03] <BillTheCrazyCat> one sec
#2610 [15:03] <BillTheCrazyCat> yes
#2611 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> BillTheCrazyCat: a lot of modded servers break redstone in interesting ways, sometimes on purpose
#2612 [15:04] <BillTheCrazyCat> the server isn't using any redstone mods
#2613 [15:04] <Serrix> I never could figure out Redstone...
#2614 [15:04] <BillTheCrazyCat> and all my other lines work fine
#2615 [15:04] <HoboPickle> it doens't have to be a redstone mod to break redstone.
#2616 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> only sometimes on purpose; that's why I used the word 'sometimes'.
#2617 [15:05] <aetherian> that's odd
#2618 [15:05] <aetherian> I thought by sometimes you meant never
#2619 [15:06] <Kealper> cool story bro -.- http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=1c5987822325dd3ce936649e512e9d859bc8921c3648970476aa5e3bc936b929-1298059369
#2620 [15:06] <Kealper> the one antivirus that called that new minecraft.exe that i made a virus is the one that i use -.-
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#2622 [15:08] <Kealper> apparently it doesn't like it when i use the ShellExecute api to run files, use a ton of compression on reshacked files, use something to decompress and extract said reshacked files...and then wrap the whole program up into a nice little UPX-packed box
#2623 [15:08] <aetherian> nonono
#2624 [15:08] <aetherian> you accidentally put a virus in there that will turn your computer into a BOMB
#2625 [15:08] <aetherian> :O
#2626 [15:08] <Kealper> oh yeah, ya caught me
#2627 [15:09] <aetherian> why you gotta be so suicidal, man
#2628 [15:09] <Kealper> guess i'll have to go without the UPX -.-
#2629 [15:09] <BillTheCrazyCat> Here's a screenshot: http://s2.kimag.es/share/54270370.png
#2630 [15:09] <BillTheCrazyCat> The circled part should be powered
#2631 [15:09] <BillTheCrazyCat> if you count, the line is 14 long
#2632 [15:10] <aetherian> we already answered you, I though
#2633 [15:10] <aetherian> t
#2634 [15:10] <BillTheCrazyCat> no, you just asked if there were any mods
#2635 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> BillTheCrazyCat: I will bet you one US dollar that if the server remove the mods, the circuit worls as intended
#2636 [15:11] <BillTheCrazyCat> there's an identical version of the circuit that works fine though
#2637 [15:11] * aetherian facepalms
#2637 [15:11] * DopeGhoti stands by his wager.
#2637 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> Modded servers acting weird? Remove the mods is the first step. This is #MineCraftHelp, not #ModdedMineCraftHelp
#2638 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> xales: looks like a good primer
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#2640 [15:18] <Kealper> ok...man...that was annoying to fix that issue with it getting a false positive
#2641 [15:18] <Rui_rui> !check 174.109.157.115:25566
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#2643 [15:20] <Rui_rui> Hm... My regular server's not working either
#2644 [15:21] <Rui_rui> !isdown 174.109.157.115
#2645 [15:21] <GreyBot> Rui_rui: It's not just you! http://174.109.157.115 looks down from here.
#2646 [15:21] <xales> I assume you port forwarded?
#2647 [15:21] <Kealper> :O
#2648 [15:21] <xales> also, isdown checks port 80 :P
#2649 [15:21] <Rui_rui> herp
#2650 [15:21] <Rui_rui> And I port forwarded yesterday
#2651 [15:22] <Rui_rui> It's still in there.
#2652 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> !check 174.109.157.115
#2653 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> Did your internal IP address change?
#2654 [15:22] <Rui_rui> My WAN address is still the same
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#2656 [15:23] <xales> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=183365
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#2658 [15:23] <Empis_Home> hey, is the game fucked up just for me?
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#2660 [15:24] <xales> Empis_Home: yes
#2661 [15:24] <xales> Empis_Home: define "fucked up"
#2662 [15:25] <Empis_Home> java eating 100% cpu
#2663 [15:25] <aetherian> xales: you know how it is
#2664 [15:25] <aetherian> a spider and a skeleton
#2665 [15:25] <aetherian> spider "riding" the skeleton
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#2667 [15:25] <xales> Empis_Home: You probably don't have a computer that can handle it then
#2668 [15:25] <Rui_rui> It's not even showing up in the log.
#2669 [15:25] <xales> ??> Empis_Home retro
#2670 [15:25] <VoxelHead> Empis_Home: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#2671 [15:25] <VoxelHead> Empis_Home: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
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#2673 [15:26] <aetherian> so like
#2674 [15:26] <xales> Rui_rui: has your LAN address changed?
#2675 [15:26] <aetherian> a 1gb netbook couldn't 'andle it
#2676 [15:26] <Mathuin> aetherian: I have a 1GB netbook, and it struggles.
#2677 [15:26] <Rui_rui> I don't think so.
#2678 [15:26] <aetherian> fast graphics tiny view?
#2679 [15:26] <TheNytangel> i hate red wiring..
#2680 [15:27] <SkiingPenguins> the TEXTURES may be 8-bit but the VERTICIES are not :P
#2681 [15:27] <TheNytangel> it took me 15 minutes to hook up a lever to double doors
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#2683 [15:27] <Mathuin> I have to dial the graphics down to not-fancy and near, and I still get a bit of stutter. Only good for testing.
#2684 [15:27] <aetherian> wow, nytangel
#2685 [15:27] <TheNytangel> it was my first time
#2686 [15:27] <TheNytangel> sh
#2687 [15:27] <TheNytangel> :P
#2688 [15:27] <necavi> I really tend to go lower FPS when on the lower viewdistances O.o
#2689 [15:28] <aetherian> I've gotten double doors to be activated by footpad, both simaltaneously
#2690 [15:28] <aetherian> not a click between
#2691 [15:28] <TheNytangel> thats easy
#2692 [15:28] <Empis_Home> why did they chooised Java :(
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#2694 [15:28] <xales> Empis_Home: Because that's what they know how to use
#2695 [15:28] <Empis_Home> so slow and ugly support to opengl
#2696 [15:28] <Empis_Home> hehe
#2697 [15:28] <TheNytangel> but my home is in a mountain, i have stairs going up there
#2698 [15:28] <aetherian> howso, TheNytangel
#2699 [15:28] <xales> If it's using 100% CPU, I don't think it would work even if it wasn't in Java
#2700 [15:28] <TheNytangel> so my switch is at the top of my stairs
#2701 [15:28] <xales> you need a seriously bad CPU for it to max it out
#2702 [15:28] <SkiingPenguins> :S
#2703 [15:28] <TheNytangel> so i had to go down 10 blocks
#2704 [15:29] <xales> Empis_Home: Do this
#2705 [15:29] <xales> ??> Empis_Home win/dxdiag
#2706 [15:29] <VoxelHead> Empis_Home: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2707 [15:29] <VoxelHead> Empis_Home: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2708 [15:29] <TheNytangel> and then it can only go up to 18 so it took 5 minutes ti figure out how to use the redstone torch
#2709 [15:29] <TheNytangel> >.>
#2710 [15:29] <TheNytangel> to*
#2711 [15:30] <aetherian> TheNytangel: I made it in a two deep, three long, 2 wide thing beneath the ground.
#2712 [15:30] <TheNytangel> im never using redstone again.. unless i make a minecart station
#2713 [15:30] <Mathuin> I think my next minecart station will be "no assembly required", a freaking schematic.
#2714 [15:30] <aetherian> I was proud of it :)
#2715 [15:30] <TheNytangel> yes but mine is from the middle of a mountain to the ground
#2716 [15:30] <TheNytangel> :P
#2717 [15:30] <aetherian> mine works on flat areas
#2718 [15:30] <aetherian> but...
#2719 [15:30] <aetherian> I only need 2*6 of flat.
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#2721 [15:30] <Empis_Home> VoxelHead: http://pastebin.com/csMFWgpt
#2722 [15:30] <aetherian> ehh
#2723 [15:30] <aetherian> 2*3
#2724 [15:30] <Mathuin> aetherian: what do you build with it?
#2725 [15:30] <aetherian> not 286
#2726 [15:30] <aetherian> ack
#2727 [15:30] <xales> Empis_Home: VoxelHead is a bot
#2728 [15:30] <TheNytangel> lol do you want me to take some pics of my redstone wiring?
#2729 [15:30] <Mathuin> What do you build in the 2x3 area?
#2730 [15:31] <TheNytangel> it sucks
#2731 [15:31] <Rui_rui> Shouldn't the activity waver a bit on a server after it finishes loading the spawn point?
#2732 [15:31] <aetherian> a double door opener that opens both doors not a click apart
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#2734 [15:31] <mib_c9gzlf> Hello, ive got an question.
#2735 [15:31] <Empis_Home> xales...
#2736 [15:31] <mib_c9gzlf> xales still here? :D
#2737 [15:31] <xales> ??> mib_c9gzlf ask
#2738 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#2739 [15:31] <TheNytangel> whatever
#2740 [15:31] <VoxelHead> mib_c9gzlf: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2741 [15:31] <VoxelHead> mib_c9gzlf: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2742 [15:31] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2743 [15:31] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2744 [15:31] <xales> Empis_Home: That should be able to run it fine
#2745 [15:31] <TheNytangel> aetherian, i am going to go take a shower.
#2746 [15:32] <xales> Empis_Home: If it's spiking to 100%, there is another problem
#2747 [15:32] <vegas> how do u take a screen shot?
#2748 [15:32] <xales> ?? screenshot
#2749 [15:32] <TheNytangel> print screen button
#2750 [15:32] <VoxelHead> screenshot: To take a screenshot in-game, press F1+F2 at the same time. You should get a notification of the screenshot filename in-game.
#2751 [15:32] <VoxelHead> screenshot: The screenshots are stored in with the rest of Minecraft's locally stored files. If you don't know where that is, see ?? .minecraft/win /mac or /linux for your OS.
#2752 [15:32] <mib_c9gzlf> so xales, i asked b4 on how to buy minecraft by Paysafecard etc...
#2753 [15:32] <TheNytangel> O.o
#2754 [15:32] <vegas> thanks
#2755 [15:32] <mib_c9gzlf> Ive got an Minecraft Alpha account now. How will i upgrade my minecraft? When i start it, it still says its alpha
#2756 [15:32] <TheNytangel> i would just "print Screen" and then paste into paint, save it as a png, and put it on photobucket, give you the direct link :)
#2757 [15:33] <xales> mib_c9gzlf: what is the username of the account?
#2758 [15:33] <Mathuin> TheNytangel: it's what I do but with imgur.
#2759 [15:33] <aetherian> TheNytangel: not cross platform
#2760 [15:33] <TheNytangel> what?
#2761 [15:33] <mib_c9gzlf> why would i tell you that?
#2762 [15:33] <Mathuin> ... and shotwell instead of paint. :-)
#2763 [15:33] <Rui_rui> Shouldn't the activity waver a bit on a server after it finishes loading the spawn point?
#2764 [15:33] <aetherian> can't do that on all OSes, TheNytangel
#2765 [15:33] <TheNytangel> i can
#2766 [15:33] <Mathuin> Linux does nicely with hitting print-screen, dunno about Mac.
#2767 [15:33] <xales> mib_c9gzlf: so I can check it's actually a real account. Your username isn't really something to protect. When you play, everyone can see it
#2768 [15:33] <TheNytangel> mib_c9gzlf, http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2769 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: McKeyboards have no such key
#2770 [15:34] <Postoffice> Is minecraft.net down ?
#2771 [15:34] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: that's silly.
#2772 [15:34] <mib_c9gzlf> i logged in with the account and it downloaded something, so yes, its a real account
#2773 [15:34] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2774 [15:34] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2775 [15:34] <TheNytangel> yes
#2776 [15:34] <TheNytangel> its down
#2777 [15:34] <xales> mib_c9gzlf: do this then, if you really don't want to give the username
#2778 [15:34] <xales> ??> mib_c9gzlf reinst/win
#2779 [15:34] <xales> ??> mib_c9gzlf win/reinst
#2780 [15:34] <VoxelHead> mib_c9gzlf: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2781 [15:34] <VoxelHead> mib_c9gzlf: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2782 [15:34] <Rui_rui> Hmmm... maybe that's why my servers aren't working.
#2783 [15:34] <TheNytangel> mib_c9gzlf: http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#2784 [15:34] <xales> Rui_rui: the !check thing would work fine
#2785 [15:34] <xales> if that was the prob;e,
#2786 [15:34] <xales> problem*
#2787 [15:35] <mib_c9gzlf> i already deleted the bin folder.. i think im going to redownload it all over again
#2788 [15:35] <Rui_rui> Well I've been asking a question about server activity
#2789 [15:35] <TheNytangel> I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE: I am leaving... I will be back in 5-10 minutes. Don't miss me too much :P
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#2791 [15:36] <RF> New Launcher: Options: Force Update
#2792 [15:36] <aetherian> hurr hurr
#2793 [15:36] <RF> That will do a reinstall
#2794 [15:36] <RF> backup your .jar file beforehand if you want to go back to your old mods later
#2795 [15:36] <aetherian> the .jar may be the problem
#2796 [15:36] <RF> Like I said, Do a einstall
#2797 [15:37] <RF> that will fix any problems with the jar file
#2798 [15:37] <xales> mib_c9gzlf: if that doesn't work, please give your username so we can make sure it's valid. it could very likely be the problem.
#2799 [15:37] <xales> anyway, I'll be back in a bit, I'm going to take a shower
#2800 [15:38] <Rui_rui> ...oh hell, my IP address did change.
#2801 [15:38] <Rui_rui> Okay, well then. This makes things simple.
#2802 [15:38] <mib_c9gzlf> just uninstalled it, going to redownload now. my username is keeDeD
#2803 [15:39] <Rui_rui> Uh.
#2804 [15:39] <Rui_rui> End of Stream?
#2805 [15:39] <RF> End of stream is usally found when you're hammering
#2806 [15:40] <RF> Leave 30 seconds between connection attempts and try again
#2807 [15:40] <mib_c9gzlf> now the minecraft launcher is downloading something again
#2808 [15:40] <Voki> MC is down
#2809 [15:41] <mib_c9gzlf> and is already done? o_o
#2810 [15:41] <Voki> not longer
#2811 [15:41] <Rui_rui> Okay, that worked.
#2812 [15:42] <mib_c9gzlf> wtf, it still has a world of mine safed... where are all the datas?!
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#2814 [15:42] <xales> ??> mib_c9gzlf windows/appdata
#2815 [15:43] <xales> blech
#2816 [15:43] <xales> ??> mib_c9gzlf win/.minecraft
#2817 [15:43] <RF> %appdata%/.minecraft
#2818 [15:43] <VoxelHead> mib_c9gzlf: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#2819 [15:43] <xales> anyway
#2820 [15:43] <Mathuin> When the game is played via the browser, where are the single-player games stored? Locally?
#2821 [15:43] <RF> ninja'd a bot, epic typing speed win
#2822 [15:43] * xales goes to take a shower now
#2822 [15:43] <RF> >.>
#2823 [15:43] <RF> in /saves
#2824 [15:43] <xales> Mathuin: in the same place
#2825 [15:43] <xales> anyway
#2826 [15:43] <xales> off to shower now :P
#2827 [15:44] <RF> unless you have a symbolic link hooking it to a remote drive/backup system
#2828 [15:44] <mib_c9gzlf> can i delete all the datas there?
#2829 [15:44] <RF> but still accessible there anyway *shrug*
#2830 [15:44] <Mathuin> RF: I meant "is it in the normal place for standalone or is it somewhere in Mojangland?".
#2831 [15:45] <RF> I believe the online version just loads the java applet inside the browser, instead of loading it seperate, and all storage is performed the same
#2832 [15:45] <mib_c9gzlf> I just deleted the whole .minecraft server. What will I do now to have minecraft installed on my Pc again to mod it with texture packs?
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#2834 [15:45] <mib_c9gzlf> sry that im such a n00b atm
#2835 [15:45] <mib_c9gzlf> server=folder
#2836 [15:45] <RF> Redownload it, Put texture packs back
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#2838 [15:46] <mib_c9gzlf> redownload it just with the minecraft launcher?
#2839 [15:46] <RF> yes
#2840 [15:47] <mib_c9gzlf> but its just downloading like 1minute.. o: thats not all?
#2841 [15:47] <RF> Depends on your connection speed
#2842 [15:47] <mib_c9gzlf> it doesnt reach mine, it was downloading with ~300kb/s
#2843 [15:47] <mib_c9gzlf> my connection possibly could get 2mb/s
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#2845 [15:48] <TheNytangel> did ya miss me?
#2846 [15:49] <RF> Well, has it downloaded the whole thing, or just the launcher ?
#2847 [15:49] <mib_c9gzlf> i guess the whole thing?! i can play atm
#2848 [15:49] <mib_c9gzlf> but i cant believe it
#2849 [15:50] <TheNytangel> what?
#2850 [15:50] <vegas> where are the screenshots saved at?
#2851 [15:50] <mib_c9gzlf> and its beta now.. new trees and i already found a kraken
#2852 [15:50] <RF> in /screenshots
#2853 [15:51] <RF> "kraken"
#2854 [15:51] <vegas> wheres the file saved at though
#2855 [15:51] <vegas> to get to /screenshots
#2856 [15:51] <mib_c9gzlf> well, i guess it works now.. i just have really low framerate now
#2857 [15:52] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2858 [15:52] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2859 [15:52] <TheNytangel> :(
#2860 [15:52] <RF> %appdata%/.minecraft
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#2862 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> vegas win/.minecraft
#2863 [15:54] <VoxelHead> vegas: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#2864 [15:54] <Rui_rui> How would I find the files for my single player levels?
#2865 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: /my points up
#2866 [15:54] <Rui_rui> Oh derp
#2867 [15:55] <mib_c9gzlf> does the misa HD texture pack still work for the newest version?
#2868 [15:55] <vegas> thanks
#2869 [15:55] <TheNytangel> C:\Users\(You)\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\screenshots
#2870 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> brb, testing video card.
#2871 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> mib_c9gzlf: HD tex packs are mods; #MineCraftHelp doesn't speak mod.
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#2873 [15:58] <anadrom> every time i type 't' to bring up chat it crashes
#2874 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> anadrom: using any mods or texture packs?
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#2876 [16:03] <gettic> hello anyone can help me with an error about a purchase or what email I can write to?
#2877 [16:04] <xales> What error?
#2878 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> ?? error
#2879 [16:04] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message"
#2880 [16:04] <VoxelHead> error: we need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means;;If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#2881 [16:05] <lemon-rev> gettic how long ago did you try and buy minecraft
#2882 [16:05] <lemon-rev> ?
#2883 [16:06] <gettic> (sorry for some bad english) i am at a lan i maked a acc and purchase the game maked a acc more and purchase the game once more hith the same cradit card but only got the mail for the first acc
#2884 [16:07] <gettic> i purchase it at 19.36
#2885 [16:07] <lemon-rev> how long ago was this,
#2886 [16:07] <lemon-rev> tonight ?
#2887 [16:07] <xales> gettic: what is the account name?
#2888 [16:07] <gettic> yes
#2889 [16:07] <lemon-rev> xales http://twitter.com/mollstam
#2890 [16:08] <lemon-rev> says paypal went down sometime
#2891 [16:08] <xales> lemon-rev: I know
#2892 [16:08] <lemon-rev> k
#2893 [16:08] <gettic> acc name of the one it dont get the mail for is getticguest
#2894 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> gettic: You paid twice? if you go here, you should see the activation code for your second purchase:
#2895 [16:09] <xales> DopeGhoti: with a different account
#2896 [16:09] <gettic> yes payed one time with the same card for the 2 acc's
#2897 [16:09] <xales> gettic: wait a little bit longer
#2898 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> ..ah
#2899 [16:09] <gettic> ok :)
#2900 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> (also, I need to pick a bone with mojang for making the URL for the profile page http://www.minecraft.net/skin/ when it handles more than skins)
#2901 [16:10] <SkiingPenguins> ya
#2902 [16:10] <SkiingPenguins> i was confused about that DopeGhoti
#2903 [16:10] * DopeGhoti pets his unused alpha code.
#2903 [16:10] <Diabo> what should i write in the permissions config file if i want everyone to use give? trying with 'general.give', but that is not working,,
#2904 [16:10] <xales> DopeGhoti: ask in #permissions
#2905 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> Diabo: only ops have access to /give
#2906 [16:11] <xales> err
#2907 [16:11] <xales> Diabo:
#2908 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> xales: ..?
#2909 [16:11] <xales> Diabo: Ask in #permissions - that only would work if you are using a mod
#2910 [16:11] <Diabo> thank
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#2915 [16:17] <raisin> Hellow again :D
#2916 [16:17] <Mathuin> Howdee
#2917 [16:17] <Mathuin> http://pastebin.com/FYWnep8r -- statistics for a new island world. Do those ore distributions look reasonable?
#2918 [16:18] <raisin> i dont know thath mutch about thath srry
#2919 [16:18] <raisin> :D
#2920 [16:18] <xales> thath?
#2921 [16:18] <raisin> please excuse me for my english
#2922 [16:18] <xales> no h, just 'that' :)
#2923 [16:19] <raisin> ooh ok ty :D
#2924 [16:20] <raisin> i hope my payment gets tru soon :p but im off again
#2925 [16:20] <raisin> Cyall
#2926 [16:20] <Mathuin> Good luck raisin!!
#2927 [16:21] <TheNytangel> why is there ALWAYS lava at the end of my mining tunnels
#2928 [16:21] <lemon-rev> cause you dont dig around them
#2929 [16:21] <lemon-rev> lol
#2930 [16:22] <Mathuin> Every time I've found lava it's been in a cave.
#2931 [16:22] <Mathuin> Like, large air pockets in the stone, but the bottom two or three units are lava.
#2932 [16:22] <Mathuin> Is it ever anything else?
#2933 [16:23] <lemon-rev> well appart from larva theres bedrock
#2934 [16:23] <lemon-rev> and maybe your just low enough or get air pockets as you call them to get that much lava in your caves
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#2936 [16:25] <Dravenable> hey
#2937 [16:25] <Mathuin> The only times I've broken in at eye level and run into lava, it's been because I broke into a larger cave from the bottom.
#2938 [16:25] <Mathuin> Hi Dravenable!
#2939 [16:25] <Dravenable> somebody here that can help me out again?
#2940 [16:25] <Dravenable> hi
#2941 [16:25] <lemon-rev> dravenable ask
#2942 [16:25] <Dravenable> well
#2943 [16:25] <Dravenable> my friend has its own server up for at least 1 month now, without any trouble,
#2944 [16:25] <Dravenable> he went to his moms house
#2945 [16:26] <Dravenable> and then i got this strange error: Conection : refused
#2946 [16:26] <lemon-rev> thats not strange
#2947 [16:26] <Dravenable> for me it is xd
#2948 [16:26] <lemon-rev> just means hes stoped hes server
#2949 [16:26] <Dravenable> im talking with him XD
#2950 [16:26] <Mathuin> Did he bring the comptuer with him?
#2951 [16:26] <Dravenable> he says everything is up, and he can connect his own serv
#2952 [16:26] <Dravenable> nop he has laptop over there
#2953 [16:27] <Mathuin> So he can connect via the same external address as he could before?
#2954 [16:27] <Dravenable> no
#2955 [16:27] <Dravenable> new ip
#2956 [16:27] <Dravenable> like (exemple) first 1.1.1.1.1 now 2.2.2.2.2 (just example XD)
#2957 [16:27] <xolotl> Mathuin: re: lava: "natural" open caves will always be filled with lava below a certain point
#2958 [16:27] <vegas> whats the mods and texture packs do?
#2959 [16:28] <Mathuin> vegas: texture packs change what you see in the game, so dirt looks different etc.
#2960 [16:28] <Mathuin> xolotl: good to know, for writing them later.
#2961 [16:28] <vegas> where do u get them
#2962 [16:28] <Mathuin> Dravenable: is it an external address, or internal? (does it start with 10., 192.168., or 172.16. ?)
#2963 [16:28] <xolotl> Mathuin: I assume that the terrain generator makes the caves first and then fills with lava
#2964 [16:28] <Mathuin> vegas: umm, I searched the fine web for "minecraft texture packs" and came up with a bunch on forum sites.
#2965 [16:28] <Mathuin> xolotl: same with water, right? I love the occasional underground lake.
#2966 [16:28] <Dravenable> mathuin: it starts with 92.125 etc
#2967 [16:29] <Mathuin> Dravenable: and he's outside that network and can reach it,and you can't?
#2968 [16:29] <Dravenable> ?? ;o
#2969 [16:29] <xolotl> Mathuin: Lakes (and lava pools) are a bit different actually; they appear to get generated "last" so to speak, or at least that's how it looks to me
#2970 [16:30] <xolotl> Mathuin: lava pools can generate anywhere (though I do wish that there was a check so that they don't spawn too close to trees)
#2971 [16:30] <Dravenable> mathuin: u mean like he CAN connect while i cant?
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#2974 [16:31] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: download this exe file that i just make that is totally not a virus!
#2975 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#2976 [16:31] * GreyVulpine blehs
#2976 [16:31] <Dravenable> xD
#2977 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> My video card just died on my main rig
#2978 [16:32] <Kealper> O.o
#2979 [16:32] <Dravenable> can anybody help me out xD
#2980 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Pulled this one to make sure.
#2981 [16:32] <Kealper> like....never to run again?
#2982 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Happy colored strips of light on the monitor
#2983 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't boot up into windows
#2984 [16:32] <Kealper> wow....what card was it?
#2985 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> 8800gts320, EVGA
#2986 [16:32] <Kealper> O.o
#2987 [16:33] <Dravenable> i got disconnected or everybody is just quit?
#2988 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Tried a different card, works fine, no corrupt display, but I think I just nudged something
#2989 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Hard drive doesn't detect
#2990 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Dravenable - We see you
#2991 [16:34] <Dravenable> k thnx ;p
#2992 [16:34] * GreyVulpine heads back down into the trenches to further diagnose.
#2992 [16:34] <Dravenable> my friend has its own server up and running for at least 1 month, now hes at his mom and when i try to join i get this:
#2993 [16:35] <Dravenable> connecting to server.. Failed to connet to the server... connection refused: connect
#2994 [16:35] <Dravenable> what can i do to fix that?
#2995 [16:35] <Kealper> Dravenable: is his server running?
#2996 [16:35] <Dravenable> yes
#2997 [16:35] <Dravenable> im talking with him atm
#2998 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> He didn't update his network configuration when he moved back to his mom's
#2999 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Needs to port forward again, probably
#3000 [16:35] <Kealper> what ip are you trying to use?
#3001 [16:35] <Dravenable> 93.125.244.26
#3002 [16:35] <Empis_Home> only my got big problem with 100% cpu usage?
#3003 [16:35] <Kealper> !check 93.125.244.26
#3004 [16:36] <Kealper> something at his house is set up wrong, not yours
#3005 [16:36] <Dravenable> k
#3006 [16:36] <Dravenable> and with :25565
#3007 [16:36] <Dravenable> would that do any good?
#3008 [16:36] <Kealper> tell him to go in to his router and redo the port forwarding
#3009 [16:36] <Dravenable> k if that wont work i will be back again xd
#3010 [16:36] <Dravenable> thnx for the tip
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#3012 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I misparsed your GPU model as "EGA" and was about to be _really_ impress with your nostalgic hardware.
#3013 [16:42] * GreyVulpine snerks
#3013 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> s/ss/&ed/
#3014 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Nah, the oldest hardware I have stored is an old pentium 166
#3015 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Still works, if I ever get around to replacing the hard drive
#3016 [16:43] <xolotl> heh, nice
#3017 [16:43] <xolotl> Now somebody needs to write an aalib or libcaca renderer for Minecraft
#3018 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Used it as an old *nix box, running red hat linux, 40 gig drive, used it for FTP and samba
#3019 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> Until my last move, I had a working 486DX/66 with motherboard with both PCI and VLB slots.
#3020 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Nice, I had one of those as well, when I was a wee lad
#3021 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> weren't there about three mobos made that had both slot types? (:
#3022 [16:44] <xolotl> I remain a bit sad that I got rid of my 386DX last summer
#3023 [16:45] <xolotl> Though not as sad as the lamentable loss of my PCjr
#3024 [16:45] <xolotl> Sold to a friend, long ago, so I could get an 8088
#3025 [16:45] <xolotl> I still remember keenly the pain of realizing that the internal speaker could only produce ONE note at a time
#3026 [16:45] <xolotl> Such sorrow!
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#3028 [16:46] <xolotl> Not that I couldn't get a "new" PCjr back from ebay or something
#3029 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> If I were fealing really nostalgic, I'd get myself an(other) Apple //GS
#3030 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> I think I still have my karateka floppy somewhere
#3031 [16:46] <xolotl> zomfg karateka
#3032 [16:47] * xolotl rushes to abandonia
#3032 [16:47] <DopeGhoti> heh
#3033 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> I try to https:// whenever I can, even if I have to accept 'bad' certs (which, yes, kinda misses the point)
#3034 [16:48] <TheNytangel> ok so im opening and closing my doors really fast and i hear a "tss" like water hitting lava.. is that good?
#3035 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: sounds like a circuit burnt out
#3036 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> clock too fast probably
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#3038 [16:48] <TheNytangel> yeah but is it good?
#3039 [16:48] <TheNytangel> i mean, the doors still work
#3040 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: your RS circuit probably died is all
#3041 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> getting dizzy, must be lunch time
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#3043 [16:52] <boxfire> So I have 3 computers... 1 windows machine, and 2 linux machines, that I want to be able to 'share' my single player state across. Does it suffice to just copy the minecraft save data? Or will there be other issues?
#3044 [16:52] <Kealper> yep, just copying works
#3045 [16:52] <Kealper> BUT
#3046 [16:52] <HATRIX> boxfire, single player will be fine.. that's a lot of upload/download though. =/
#3047 [16:52] <Mathuin> rsync!
#3048 [16:52] <boxfire> HATRIX: flash drive
#3049 [16:52] <Kealper> i advise you use some sort of archive tool to tar your map before you move it
#3050 [16:52] <HATRIX> ^
#3051 [16:53] <HATRIX> I was implying the dangers to the file from moving it so often.
#3052 [16:53] <boxfire> just want to make sure there wont be other consistency issues
#3053 [16:53] <HATRIX> and between machines.
#3054 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Could use DropBox to sync between machines
#3055 [16:53] <Kealper> that'd take so long :/
#3056 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Saved_Data_Dropbox_Guide
#3057 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Basically, use dropbox to store, and make symlinks to your computer
#3058 [16:54] <Kealper> i can't wait for the 1.3 update though....
#3059 [16:54] <Kealper> implementing the mcregion stuff to greatly reduce numbers of files needed :/
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#3061 [16:54] <lemon-rev> keaper are they really going to put a shot gun into this game lol
#3062 [16:54] <TheNytangel> what can you do with milk besides cook?
#3063 [16:55] <HATRIX> lemon-rev, that's an awesome youtube vidoe :)
#3064 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> make cake?
#3065 [16:55] <lemon-rev> yea i know
#3066 [16:55] <HATRIX> but not implemented.
#3067 [16:55] <lemon-rev> damit :P
#3068 [16:55] <HATRIX> other than mods... notch said no to guns =/
#3069 [16:55] <HATRIX> lol
#3070 [16:56] <Mathuin> You have a bow and arrow, be happy. :-)
#3071 [16:56] <lemon-rev> lol true
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#3073 [16:57] <Kealper> man it is windy as heck outside right now
#3074 [16:57] <lemon-rev> lol, i found an old cave but its like havent been touched for a week or less inside realtime and like i got water and lava everywhere im like wtf
#3075 [16:57] <Mathuin> Nice!
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#3078 [16:59] <Alo> hey
#3079 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Just wait Alo, you'll get it
#3080 [16:59] <mib_cvkgqn> does anyone know about the problem where your minecraft loads but when it is done loading the screen turns black?
#3081 [16:59] <Alo> im at minecraft help now grey vulpine
#3082 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> I see that
#3083 [17:00] <Alo> but a question.
#3084 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> SHoot
#3085 [17:00] <Alo> Why they promise 1h max when it takes actually 5h?
#3086 [17:00] <boxfire> Kealper: where you from? I am in Houghton, MI. We have 60 mph gusts today. crazy.
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#3088 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Alo - I couldn't tell you...
#3089 [17:00] <Kealper> boxfire: port huron, MI here lol
#3090 [17:00] <Alo> i don''t want to regret the investment..
#3091 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> You won't.
#3092 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Just be patient.
#3093 [17:01] <Mathuin> Alo: even if it took an extra day you wouldn't regret it, honest. :-)
#3094 [17:01] <xolotl> Alo: The Mojang folks aren't the greatest at runnnig servers; you'll get it eventually.
#3095 [17:01] <HATRIX> hey, could someone direct me to a channel about minecraft mod help?
#3096 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> HATRIX - #risucraft
#3097 [17:01] <xolotl> HATRIX: #bukkit for servers
#3098 [17:01] <xolotl> (and what GreyVulpine said for singleplayer)
#3099 [17:01] <Alo> maybe mojang folks need to get bigger bandwith, better connection and better pc?
#3100 [17:02] <HATRIX> kk, thanks grey and xolotl
#3101 [17:02] <HATRIX> yes, alo
#3102 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Alo - They switched to the Amazon cloud, to combat this problem
#3103 [17:02] <xolotl> Alo: They're aware of their issues
#3104 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> They're currently looking at a better solution
#3105 [17:02] <Alo> well..
#3106 [17:02] <Alo> i don't know if its possible
#3107 [17:02] <Alo> but
#3108 [17:02] <Alo> connecting 1 main server
#3109 [17:02] <Alo> which connects to many subservers
#3110 [17:03] <Alo> and checks if there are any open slots on all subservers
#3111 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> They have 5 servers in a cluster, behind a load balancer.
#3112 [17:03] <xolotl> Alo: Yes, they are already load-balancing
#3113 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> And they still have problems
#3114 [17:03] * xolotl shakes a fist at GreyVulpine
#3114 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> :)
#3115 [17:03] <xolotl> again
#3116 [17:03] <Alo> and suits the site user to the best subserver available atm
#3117 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Already done Alo
#3118 [17:03] <Alo> that would be the solution
#3119 [17:03] <Alo> in my eyes.
#3120 [17:03] <Alo> wwell
#3121 [17:03] <Shadow386> GreyVulpine i posted my trading gui idea up, and a few posters posted that they dont like it because they like to steal
#3122 [17:03] <Shadow386> -_-
#3123 [17:03] <Alo> other sites with 20M users even run faster..
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#3125 [17:03] <Alo> maybe their net is just not good enough then?
#3126 [17:04] * GreyVulpine snerks
#3126 [17:04] <Mathuin> Alo: they broke Amazon.
#3127 [17:04] <xolotl> Alo: In the end, no amount of complaining about it in here will help
#3128 [17:04] <Mathuin> Like, Amazon's cloud wasn't good enough. :-)
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#3131 [17:04] <Alo> they probably also need fast HDD's
#3132 [17:05] <Alo> if they have only alot of ram and fast cpus and good connection it aint enough
#3133 [17:05] <Shadow386> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=183045
#3134 [17:05] <Alo> HDD is all at webcomputing
#3135 [17:05] <xolotl> Alo: Well, feel free to email them your suggestions
#3136 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Alo, please just stop. They've already acknowledged the problem, and are fixing it
#3137 [17:05] <Alo> greyvulpine sorry, i will
#3138 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Again, just be patient.
#3139 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Things will work out in the end.
#3140 [17:06] <Alo> just got very impatient, expected them to keep their promises that they have said on the site
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#3142 [17:06] <Alo> but yea, stuff happens:)
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#3145 [17:07] <Shadow386> brb testing the launcher
#3146 [17:08] <Shadow386> meh could use a button that says update instead of in the options, but nonetheless i like
#3147 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Is there a button to opt out of updating the client?
#3148 [17:08] <Coll> is it out already?
#3149 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Haven't looked at it yet
#3150 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> "Leaked" on notch's twitter
#3151 [17:08] <Shadow386> not sure lemme check
#3152 [17:08] <Cial> oh so thats what that is
#3153 [17:08] <Cial> hmm jar file
#3154 [17:09] <Alo> jar's can be ran on PC, dun worry
#3155 [17:09] <Alo> java runnables
#3156 [17:09] <Cial> Alo, i know
#3157 [17:09] <Alo> k
#3158 [17:10] <Cial> well it will once i tell 7zip to stfu
#3159 [17:10] <Shadow386> We arent idiots or we wouldnt even be in this channel helping people
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#3161 [17:10] <Alo> noone said that you guys are idiots.
#3162 [17:10] <Alo> please dont make exclusions on half the text.
#3163 [17:11] <Alo> sometimes making fast exclusions it may be bad for urself
#3164 [17:11] <Shadow386> coming from the one that thought Cial didnt know jars were runnable so he told him they were
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#3166 [17:12] <Alo> was jus trying to be useful..
#3167 [17:12] <Alo> but yea, even failed in that one.
#3168 [17:12] <Cial> Shadow386, well the comment i made before he said that didnt make me seem to sure about running it
#3169 [17:12] <Mathuin> Heh, jar stands for java archive. :-)
#3170 [17:13] <Mathuin> It's basically a zip file with some special sauce.
#3171 [17:13] <Alo> java archive RUNNABLE
#3172 [17:13] <Alo> ;)
#3173 [17:13] <Shadow386> meh
#3174 [17:14] <Cial> oh wow i just learnt that Cysero from Artix Entertainment follows notch
#3175 [17:15] <Shadow386> nice
#3176 [17:17] <Alo> tired of watching that "buy now" button on my nose -.-
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#3178 [17:23] <aetherian> guys guys
#3179 [17:24] <Mathuin> ? ? ?
#3180 [17:24] <aetherian> xales, you'll be happy
#3181 [17:24] <Alo> what
#3182 [17:24] <aetherian> bye, leaving for the weekend
#3183 [17:24] <aetherian> :)
#3184 [17:24] <aetherian> o| o/ o|
#3185 [17:24] <aetherian> ^waving
#3186 [17:25] <Mathuin> Have a good weekend, aetherian.
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#3188 [17:25] <aetherian> yeah right, Mathuin, I'm supposed to go to some camp thing >.>
#3189 [17:25] <aetherian> thank god I have good books to read
#3190 [17:26] <aetherian> but no mp3 player D:
#3191 [17:27] <Alo> mp3 player and some hardstyle tracks
#3192 [17:27] <Alo> and ur good to go
#3193 [17:27] <Alo> :)
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#3195 [17:27] <kermi> Excuse me i have a question
#3196 [17:27] <Alo> go on.
#3197 [17:28] <kermi> When i pay for mine craft do i have to pay regulary for online?
#3198 [17:28] <Alo> no.
#3199 [17:28] <Alo> its one-time fee
#3200 [17:28] <Alo> then you will have minecraft license forever
#3201 [17:28] <aetherian> though it would be worth it for 10 dollars a month
#3202 [17:28] <Alo> you don't need to pay anything anymore
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#3204 [17:28] <kermi> is there a online test to see if it i like it?
#3205 [17:29] <aetherian> classic.
#3206 [17:29] <Rosemaster> Try that then if i like it pay?
#3207 [17:29] <Alo> there is minecraft classic
#3208 [17:29] <Alo> but
#3209 [17:29] <aetherian> which is not like beta
#3210 [17:29] <aetherian> just watch some let's plays
#3211 [17:29] <Alo> it is way different
#3212 [17:29] <Alo> and way worse.
#3213 [17:29] <Alo> yea.
#3214 [17:29] <aetherian> :#
#3215 [17:29] <aetherian> they can exemplify it well
#3216 [17:29] <Alo> watch the help section on minecraft.net
#3217 [17:30] <Alo> and there the 1st vid
#3218 [17:30] <aetherian> the help section?
#3219 [17:30] <Alo> click on that vid and check the dude's channel
#3220 [17:30] <aetherian> you mean this one?
#3221 [17:30] <Rosemaster> I'll try and if i like it i will buy Thanks Alo and aetherian
#3222 [17:30] <Alo> he has many videos about minecraft
#3223 [17:30] <aetherian> !tutorial
#3224 [17:30] <aetherian> :D
#3225 [17:30] <Alo> yea
#3226 [17:30] <aetherian> watch that series, the first vids of his
#3227 [17:30] <Alo> check that man's channel
#3228 [17:30] <aetherian> not the v2.0
#3229 [17:30] <aetherian> g2gnow
#3230 [17:30] <Rosemaster> Thnaks
#3231 [17:30] <Alo> he has many videos.
#3232 [17:30] <Alo> no problem
#3233 [17:30] <Alo> thank AuBot for the link
#3234 [17:30] <Alo> :)
#3235 [17:31] <Alo> i wish my minecraft acct would be activated alrdy..
#3236 [17:31] <relsqui> how come whenever I'm trying to open the door, I'll accidentally shoot an arrow through it, and vice versa?
#3237 [17:32] <relsqui> how do I just shoot an arrow through it?
#3238 [17:32] <relsqui> because there is a creeper *right* outside :|
#3239 [17:32] <Alo> well
#3240 [17:32] <Alo> what i did is
#3241 [17:32] <Alo> i used a sword
#3242 [17:32] <Alo> and then i went to door.
#3243 [17:32] <Alo> and when creeper came close
#3244 [17:32] <lemon-rev> relsqui stand back and shot lol
#3245 [17:32] <Alo> i aimed at his head
#3246 [17:32] <Alo> and hit him twice with diamond sword
#3247 [17:32] <Arkose> you can't shoot through doors. In fact you can shoot the arrows into the door, open it, and they'll still sit there.
#3248 [17:32] <Alo> he was dead
#3249 [17:33] <Alo> was playing at friends then
#3250 [17:33] <Alo> i had to buy it
#3251 [17:33] <relsqui> oh. okay, well, how do I attack through the door then?
#3252 [17:33] <Alo> i jus liked it so much
#3253 [17:33] <relsqui> which I thought I could do
#3254 [17:33] <Alo> use sword
#3255 [17:33] <Alo> go to door
#3256 [17:33] <Arkose> you can't attack through doors
#3257 [17:33] <Alo> and just left click
#3258 [17:33] <Alo> you can.
#3259 [17:33] <Arkose> using the sword on the door will knock it open
#3260 [17:33] <Alo> with sword you can
#3261 [17:33] <Alo> go as close as u can to door
#3262 [17:33] <Arkose> ...
#3263 [17:33] <Alo> and left click
#3264 [17:33] <Alo> it wont open believe me
#3265 [17:33] <Arkose> this demands investigation
#3266 [17:33] <Arkose> for SCIENCE
#3267 [17:34] <Mathuin> I have attacked through doors.
#3268 [17:34] <Mathuin> Creeper bastards.
#3269 [17:34] <Alo> me to at friends
#3270 [17:34] <relsqui> oh, hey
#3271 [17:34] <relsqui> he's right
#3272 [17:34] <Mathuin> Just don't get too close to the door, because if he fssssss you'll be rebuilding that door. :-)
#3273 [17:34] <relsqui> Alo: thanks
#3274 [17:34] <relsqui> Mathuin: yeah, I was worried about that, but he didn't :)
#3275 [17:34] <Alo> no problem relsqui ;)
#3276 [17:34] <Mathuin> This is why I keep a bow and some arrows in each safehouse I build.
#3277 [17:35] <Alo> also
#3278 [17:35] <Alo> at my friends
#3279 [17:35] <Mathuin> Run into the house, close the door, get the weapons, open the door, back up, and shoot.
#3280 [17:35] <Alo> u guys know how to build anti spiders?
#3281 [17:35] <Alo> to prevent spiders climbin up da wall to roof
#3282 [17:35] <Alo> its easy
#3283 [17:35] <Arkose> a single block overhang?
#3284 [17:35] <Alo> yea.
#3285 [17:35] <Alo> im used to use glass for that
#3286 [17:35] <Alo> then i can see
#3287 [17:35] <Alo> if there is a spider
#3288 [17:36] <Alo> dam i wanna get my own MC activated already:(
#3289 [17:36] <relsqui> does the top of a large chest have to be totally uncovered for it to open or does it just have to have one open square?
#3290 [17:36] <relsqui> I use ladders for spider prevention
#3291 [17:36] <Arkose> if you put a layer of soul sand before the glass and a barrier above it you can't fall out :D
#3292 [17:36] <relsqui> or cacti. there are a lot of options :P
#3293 [17:36] <relsqui> Mathuin: yeah, I had a bow, but I remembered reading something about attacking through doors
#3294 [17:37] <Alo> attack thru doors with diamond sword.
#3295 [17:37] <Alo> very effective against creepers
#3296 [17:37] <Arkose> you can also manipulate other things through windows
#3297 [17:37] <Arkose> including switches
#3298 [17:38] <Arkose> so if you're wanting to make a secret base in SMP that only you can get into, don't put a switch just on the other side of the door :P
#3299 [17:38] <Alo> OR
#3300 [17:38] <Alo> make murderholes.
#3301 [17:38] <Arkose> also an option
#3302 [17:38] <Alo> switch on other side?
#3303 [17:38] <Alo> well..
#3304 [17:38] <Alo> you can wear a lever with you
#3305 [17:38] <Mathuin> If you're trying to make a secret base, don't put in any door at all.
#3306 [17:38] <Alo> just put it next to the door
#3307 [17:38] <Alo> open the door
#3308 [17:38] <Mathuin> Dig a hole. :-)
#3309 [17:38] <Alo> and take the lever with u again
#3310 [17:38] <Alo> :D
#3311 [17:38] <Arkose> well yes, that's the other option :)
#3312 [17:38] <Alo> the easiest option
#3313 [17:38] <relsqui> you could put a switch on the other side that actualy drops the floor out from under the person standing there
#3314 [17:38] <Alo> thats why iron doors are pointless in my eye
#3315 [17:38] <relsqui> and then a switch further in which opens the door ^_^
#3316 [17:39] <Arkose> mine cart behind lavafall. Nobody will know!
#3317 [17:39] <Alo> minecart engine pushing minecart chest
#3318 [17:39] <Alo> havent tried
#3319 [17:39] <Arkose> of course on servers with /home enabled you can make a home that you literally can't get into. :P
#3320 [17:39] <Alo> but seems to be great when coming from mineshaft
#3321 [17:39] <Alo> :)
#3322 [17:40] <Alo> You need to buy the game to be able to change your skin.
#3323 [17:40] <Alo> dam i bought the game just frikken activate it!!!...
#3324 [17:40] <Arkose> the server seems to be having issues anywya
#3325 [17:40] <Alo> yea
#3326 [17:41] <Alo> website says 1h and activated boom
#3327 [17:41] <Alo> but ppl here say it took 5h
#3328 [17:41] <Alo> ...
#3329 [17:41] <Mathuin> The servers are wicked overloaded.
#3330 [17:41] <Mathuin> It's a popular game.
#3331 [17:41] <Alo> from what i am hearing
#3332 [17:41] <Alo> they are using many subservers
#3333 [17:41] <Alo> but still having lag
#3334 [17:41] <Alo> even amazon wasnt gr8 for them
#3335 [17:42] <Alo> dunno if they use PHP, because HTML is faster... but yea, PHP is more secure.
#3336 [17:42] <Alo> talkin bout website
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#3338 [17:42] <relsqui> not in multi.
#3339 [17:42] <Alo> well mathuin there must be something wrong with servers
#3340 [17:43] <Alo> because
#3341 [17:43] <Mathuin> Alo: yes, they're wicked overloaded. :-)
#3342 [17:43] <Alo> even sites with 20M users run faster
#3343 [17:43] <relsqui> Alo: no powered carts in multi
#3344 [17:43] <Alo> relsqui, why?
#3345 [17:43] <relsqui> .... because they don't work right now?
#3346 [17:43] <Mathuin> Alo: those sites have probably had better luck in being designed for scalability and budget to make it go.
#3347 [17:43] <Alo> dam:/
#3348 [17:43] <relsqui> lots of things that work in single don't work in multi right now
#3349 [17:43] <Rosemaster> Alo: I am trying classic :)
#3350 [17:43] <Mathuin> Alo: minecraft is indie and small and you'll just have to chill. :-)
#3351 [17:43] <Alo> rosemaster
#3352 [17:44] <relsqui> also, yeah, the thing that's "wrong" with their servers is that they're not up to the amount of traffic they get
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#3356 [17:51] <Alo> hi
#3357 [17:51] <Alo> i pressed back button
#3358 [17:51] <Alo> and yea
#3359 [17:51] <Alo> such a mess cause of that..
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#3361 [17:51] <Alo> mibbit and all that IRC system is a big mess
#3362 [17:51] <Alo> they dont know what they are doin
#3363 [17:52] <Mathuin> You don't have to use mibbit.
#3364 [17:52] <Mathuin> If you know how to use other clients, use 'em.
#3365 [17:53] <Arkose> Mibbit is for people who don't know what "IRC" is.
#3366 [17:53] <Kealper> lol wut is irc???
#3367 [17:53] <Mathuin> It's like bitching out AT&T when you buy a landline phone from Radio Shack and can't plug it in because you don't know what you're doing.
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#3369 [17:55] <MDanz> hey
#3370 [17:55] <Alo> i guess they were in basement when they were doing calculations on paper
#3371 [17:55] <Alo> with no lights on
#3372 [17:55] <Alo> :D
#3373 [17:55] <Alo> hey btw
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#3375 [17:55] <dopeghoti> Mathuin: I think that simile might be lost on some
#3376 [17:55] <MDanz> anyone know a way to speed up or un glitch servers?
#3377 [17:55] <Mathuin> dopeghoti: sad but true.
#3378 [17:55] <raisin> Helloo peaplez of Minecraft
#3379 [17:55] <Alo> still that "BUY NOW!" looks into my face, after 3h of buying -.-
#3380 [17:55] <Mathuin> MDanz: depends on what's wrong with the server.
#3381 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#3382 [17:55] <MDanz> my firend when they remove blocks they re apear
#3383 [17:55] <Mathuin> Hi, raisin.
#3384 [17:56] <MDanz> or build sometimes disapear
#3385 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> MDanz - he's still around spawn
#3386 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Spawn protection, remember we talked about that?
#3387 [17:56] <MDanz> n i "op" ed them alll
#3388 [17:56] <MDanz> yeah
#3389 [17:56] <raisin> can an OP doe the !Paid on EpicLobster plz ?
#3390 [17:56] <MDanz> but were like miles away now
#3391 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Oh, hmm
#3392 [17:56] <MDanz> but still lagging out for them
#3393 [17:56] <Mathuin> !paid EpicLobster
#3394 [17:56] <MDanz> GreyVulpine can we talk on private?
#3395 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Then that might be a problem with them
#3396 [17:56] <Alo> GreyVulpine: i still dont have it premium, 3h passed:(
#3397 [17:56] <Mathuin> Not yet, raisin.
#3398 [17:56] <raisin> Goddamned
#3399 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I'm a bit busy right now
#3400 [17:56] <raisin> Lol Alo
#3401 [17:57] <raisin> if bein waiting for more then 24 hours
#3402 [17:57] <raisin> still havent got it
#3403 [17:57] <MDanz> ok
#3404 [17:57] <raisin> Im gonne go to sleep now
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#3406 [17:57] <Alo> raisin i dont have a week of waiting, time is money u kno
#3407 [17:57] <raisin> hope i get it when i wake up
#3408 [17:57] <Alo> i wanted to spend a nice friday evening at minecraft
#3409 [17:57] <raisin> Alo waiting can be done with other peaple
#3410 [17:58] <Alo> but mojang and its slow servers totally killed my plans :(
#3411 [17:58] <raisin> and chat a little :D
#3412 [17:58] <raisin> lol same here
#3413 [17:58] <raisin> just watched Superman returns
#3414 [17:58] <Alo> a nice minecraft evening with some coke next to PC
#3415 [17:58] <Alo> but yea
#3416 [17:58] <raisin> Anyway
#3417 [17:58] <Mathuin> Alo: could be worse, you could have gotten it for your girl as a valentine's present.
#3418 [17:58] <Alo> now all i have is coke and that IRC what is coded in dark basement, so they didnt know theirselves what they were wroting or which calculations they did
#3419 [17:58] <Alo> :D
#3420 [17:58] <raisin> Cyall tomorrow for another day of waiting for my premium :D
#3421 [17:58] <Alo> Mathuin: dont have a girl
#3422 [17:59] <raisin> bye
#3423 [17:59] <Mathuin> Alo: ah well.
#3424 [17:59] <Alo> bye
#3425 [17:59] <Mathuin> bye raisin
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#3428 [18:02] <Alo> weird that the transaction is so long when sometimes servers are pretty fast
#3429 [18:02] <Alo> for like 10 seconds
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#3431 [18:02] <Alo> then u must finish all tasks quick until minecraft.net gets very slow again
#3432 [18:03] <Mathuin> Alo: the process involves multiple transactions. There's verifying your credit card, billing your credit card, updating something in a database, and pushing out updates.
#3433 [18:03] <Mathuin> At a guess, based on experience with similar systems.
#3434 [18:03] <Alo> mathuin
#3435 [18:03] <Mathuin> Many of those are batched.
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#3437 [18:03] <Alo> why my friend's gift card code arrived on my mail instantly after transaction
#3438 [18:04] <Mathuin> Because the servers weren't busy when that happened.
#3439 [18:04] <Alo> and my own buy now button stuff didnt activate straight?
#3440 [18:04] <Mathuin> Or, because only half the process needed to happen.
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#3442 [18:04] <Mathuin> For a gift card, it's just all about the money, and quickly generating a string right?
#3443 [18:04] <Mathuin> For actually activating an account, you have to modify your account's entry in the minecraft databases...
#3444 [18:04] <Mathuin> That sounds much slower to me.
#3445 [18:04] <Guest1390140179> RAGE
#3446 [18:04] <Alo> and about buy now its about money too?
#3447 [18:04] <Guest1390140179> not letting me change name
#3448 [18:04] <Mathuin> Money _plus_ database change.
#3449 [18:04] <Kealper> Guest1390140179: are you in #minecraft?
#3450 [18:04] <Guest1390140179> no
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#3452 [18:05] <Alo> it aint slow, it just gets to search the username out in database and commands it to switch Premium=true
#3453 [18:05] <Alo> if they have table like that
#3454 [18:05] <Mathuin> Alo: if.
#3455 [18:05] <Alo> that would sound like a 15 sec job for me.
#3456 [18:05] <spkypwnsuall> Is this the help desk? :D
#3457 [18:05] <Mathuin> Alas, it's not that simple in real life like it is in computer science classes.
#3458 [18:05] <Mathuin> We cannot always assume a spherical cow of uniform density.
#3459 [18:05] <SinZ> ah it was a timer from getting changed to guest
#3460 [18:05] <Kealper> lol
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#3462 [18:06] <spkypwnsuall> Can anyone give me a hand figuring out what is wrong with my Java?
#3463 [18:06] <Alo> what does it say?
#3464 [18:06] <relsqui> Alo: fifteen seconds per user, a thousand users an hour, gets slow :P
#3465 [18:06] <spkypwnsuall> I keep freezing up on multiplayer, but i can see everyone else move around me :/
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#3468 [18:07] <Mathuin> spkypwnsuall: have you done anything unusual like use non-standard-sized texture packs or anything?
#3469 [18:07] <Alo> relsqui: thats why bigger sites USUALLY have all servers doing specific tasks.
#3470 [18:07] <Rosemaster> Alo
#3471 [18:07] <Alo> relsqui: not all sites doing 1
#3472 [18:07] <Alo> rosemaster, how can i help you
#3473 [18:07] <spkypwnsuall> I haven't used any mods at all Mathuin
#3474 [18:07] <relsqui> Alo: right. mojang presumably doesn't have the resources for servers that could handle all the load they're under.
#3475 [18:07] <relsqui> Alo: or, whether or not they have the resources, they don't currently have such servers
#3476 [18:08] <Rosemaster> When i buy it now will i still have membership when full version releashed after beta or re buy it?
#3477 [18:08] <relsqui> Alo: there's really no point in arguing about this; it's just the way it is
#3478 [18:08] <Alo> relsqui: they have big loads on the subservers which keep up the site, handle treansactions, modify stats,keep the big main open.
#3479 [18:08] <Rosemaster> Alo: When i buy it now will i still have membership when full version releashed after beta or re buy it?
#3480 [18:08] <Alo> relsqui: What about separating and
#3481 [18:09] <Alo> rosemaster: yes you will have full license
#3482 [18:09] <relsqui> Alo: what are we even arguing about? the site's slow because it's overloaded. what is the possible disagreement here?
#3483 [18:09] <Alo> rosemaster: no need to rebuy
#3484 [18:09] <Alo> relsqui: we are not arguing, just
#3485 [18:09] <Mathuin> spkypwnsuall: what operating system and version of java are you using?
#3486 [18:09] <relsqui> Alo: just you're whining about the facts being as they are :P
#3487 [18:09] <Rosemaster> If i pay for beta do i still have mebership when full game is releashed? :)
#3488 [18:10] <Alo> relsqui: what about having 3 servers handling transactions, 3 servers doing stats modify, 5 subs connected to main to keep ppl browsing site and 1 main to connect to all those subs?
#3489 [18:10] <Alo> relsqui: Sounds like alot faster to me.
#3490 [18:10] <Mathuin> Alo: sounds like you've never designed an architecture for stuff like that.
#3491 [18:10] <Alo> rosemaster: for once again, yes.
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#3493 [18:10] <relsqui> Alo: okay, you think it should be run that way. great, whatever. why are you telling *us* thiS?
#3494 [18:10] <Mathuin> spkypwnsuall: I would start by deinstalling and reinstalling Java, if I were you.
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#3496 [18:11] <Alo> Mathuin: i know that servers get alot of pressure, that is the reason why many sites have different servers handling specific tasks.
#3497 [18:11] <spkypwnsuall> Mathuin: i'll give it a shot, thanks
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#3500 [18:11] <Alo> relsqui: because we picked this way up, just telling what if. Why are you blocking so much? It seems like you have something against me.
#3501 [18:12] <relsqui> Alo: I just dislike completely pointless conversations
#3502 [18:12] <relsqui> speculating about how it's run or isn't run or should be one is useless here
#3503 [18:12] <relsqui> nobody's here who can do anything about it
#3504 [18:12] <relsqui> it just seems like an excuse to keep whining that they're doing it wrong
#3505 [18:12] <Alo> relsqui: sorry then, i'll ignore you from now on then. Sorry but that is what you wanted
#3506 [18:12] <relsqui> heh
#3507 [18:13] <Alo> any1 needs help with java or smth?
#3508 [18:14] <CoLoN> i need some help in game :/
#3509 [18:14] <Alo> rosemaster, u gonna buy?
#3510 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> CoLoN - With what?
#3511 [18:15] <CoLoN> redstone torches ect.
#3512 [18:15] <CoLoN> switches
#3513 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> What about them?
#3514 [18:15] <CoLoN> cant get it to work
#3515 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Can you be more specific?
#3516 [18:16] <CoLoN> just using a simple switch to try to open my door
#3517 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Okay, is this in single player, or multiplayer?
#3518 [18:16] <dopeghoti> CoLoN: no RS needed, put switch next to door. Done.
#3519 [18:16] <CoLoN> multiplayer
#3520 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Try dopeghoti's suggestion. If there's a specific problem, let us know how you have it set up
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#3524 [18:22] <CoLoN> well im just trying to use the switch from a distance and laying down the dust
#3525 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> How far away?
#3526 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> >14 blocks?
#3527 [18:24] <CoLoN> 11
#3528 [18:24] <dopeghoti> Why do I foresee a resdtone/ FAQ category in VoxelHead's future?
#3529 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Is the redstone hitting the door straight on from the switch?
#3530 [18:24] <dopeghoti> CoLoN: the 'end' of the wire must be directly beneath the block upon which the door is situated.
#3531 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Does it take any turns?
#3532 [18:24] <dopeghoti> (assuming hidden wires)
#3533 [18:25] <CoLoN> yea but its still directly connected
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#3535 [18:25] <Alo> going away
#3536 [18:25] <Alo> bye
#3537 [18:26] <dopeghoti> Alo: for the record, when you /part or /quit, IRC announces it for you.
#3538 [18:26] <TheNytangel> my dad bought me a huge bag of hersey's kiisses
#3539 [18:26] <TheNytangel> kisses*
#3540 [18:26] <relsqui> dopeghoti: XD
#3541 [18:27] <relsqui> when checking whether a tree has space to grow, does it take take leaves into account?
#3542 [18:27] <dopeghoti> TheNytangel: how incestuous
#3543 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> relsqui - No
#3544 [18:27] <relsqui> coo.
#3545 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> It only looks at vertical clearance directly above the sapling
#3546 [18:27] <relsqui> aaagh strangled by tree
#3547 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> (and light)
#3548 [18:27] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: really? I thought it also took horizontal space into account as well
#3549 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe so dopeghoti.
#3550 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> You can die from being right next to a tree when it grows
#3551 [18:28] <dopeghoti> now I'll have to experiment with my tree farm
#3552 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> take bone meal and test it out yourself
#3553 [18:28] <dopeghoti> does bonemeal force a sapling to grow that normally would not?
#3554 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> It only accelerates growth, if the requirements are meant
#3555 [18:29] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: well, but also sometimes a tree will fail to grow because the tree it generates won't fit in the space, right?
#3556 [18:29] <relsqui> rather
#3557 [18:29] <relsqui> bonemeal forces it to try
#3558 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Again, test it out yourself, I'm in no means an expert on the issue
#3559 [18:29] <relsqui> where trying == pick a random tree
#3560 [18:29] <relsqui> I am testing it myself *g*
#3561 [18:29] <relsqui> but okay, thank you
#3562 [18:29] * dopeghoti will be doing some experimenting tonight
#3562 [18:29] <Mathuin> If you are standing on a tree can you make it grow and push you up?
#3563 [18:30] <relsqui> no, it just chokes you
#3564 [18:30] <Mathuin> Like a lumber elevator?
#3565 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> It will suffocate you
#3566 [18:30] <dopeghoti> at the expense of my long-neglected subway tunnel
#3567 [18:30] <Mathuin> Lame.
#3568 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> I've had that happen to me
#3569 [18:30] <relsqui> I *just* had that happen to me
#3570 [18:30] <relsqui> well, I was suffocated by leaves, not trunk, but same idea
#3571 [18:30] <relsqui> anybody know offhand how often a tree will try to grow, without bonemeal, assuming someone is in a chunk nearby the whole time?
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#3573 [18:31] <Mathuin> relsqui: I don't know if that's in the tree page on the wiki or not. have you looked?
#3574 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no idea
#3575 [18:31] <relsqui> yeah; iirc it's not
#3576 [18:31] <relsqui> but I'll check again
#3577 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> I assume it'll constantly check it
#3578 [18:31] <dopeghoti> relsqui: Trees have a sort of half-life after planting
#3579 [18:31] <spkypwnsuall> Mathuin: Just re installed java, worked a little, then kept freezing D:
#3580 [18:31] <relsqui> ah, my bad, here it is
#3581 [18:31] <dopeghoti> every so often, a 'counter' is given the chance to decrement
#3582 [18:31] <relsqui> "All trees in a large radius around the player make attempts to grow at random intervals. For any given tree this can work out to about 3 attempts per minute, but a tree will usually not grow until nearly 30 minutes have elapsed since planting."
#3583 [18:32] <dopeghoti> when it hits zero, it tries to grow
#3584 [18:32] <Mathuin> spkypwnsuall: did you delete your .minecraft/bin and then rerun the downloaded jar?
#3585 [18:32] <spkypwnsuall> Mathuin: Haven't tried it, where do i find that folder?
#3586 [18:32] <dopeghoti> spkypwnsuall: what OS?
#3587 [18:33] <spkypwnsuall> Dopeghoti: Win7
#3588 [18:33] <dopeghoti> win/reinst
#3589 [18:33] <dopeghoti> ?? win/reinst
#3590 [18:33] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3591 [18:33] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3593 [18:33] <dopeghoti> Nice talk there, Valdred; thanks for visiting.
#3594 [18:34] <spkypwnsuall> Thanks Voxel. So delete the minecraft .bin folder?
#3595 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#3596 [18:34] <spkypwnsuall> Simple enough, i'll give it a shot
#3597 [18:36] <spkypwnsuall> DopeGhoti: Now i'm getting a "end of Stream" error when i try to connect to the server
#3598 [18:36] <spkypwnsuall> :/
#3599 [18:37] <CoLoN> can redstone dust power stone slabs?
#3600 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> No CoLoN
#3601 [18:37] <relsqui> power them to do what?
#3602 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> CoLoN: to do what exactly? they're slabs.
#3603 [18:37] <CoLoN> no wonder...
#3604 [18:37] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3604 [18:38] <CoLoN> :)
#3605 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> You were talking about the half-block stone slabs, not the pressure plates, right?
#3606 [18:38] <CoLoN> yea double stacked
#3607 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, those don't do anything with redstone
#3608 [18:39] <relsqui> CoLoN: what were you trying to accomplish generally?
#3609 [18:40] <CoLoN> what bout wool?
#3610 [18:40] <relsqui> what would wool do if you powered it?
#3611 [18:40] <CoLoN> have a switch next to my castle throne so i can open the damn door
#3612 [18:40] <relsqui> why do you need to power wool or slabs to do that?
#3613 [18:40] <relsqui> I think there's some deeper misunderstanding here and I'm trying to figure out what it is
#3614 [18:41] <CoLoN> thats what the floor is made of
#3615 [18:41] <relsqui> oh, you don't want to run power *to* it, just *across* it
#3616 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> relsqui: or under it.
#3617 [18:42] <relsqui> right
#3618 [18:42] <CoLoN> yea under it
#3619 [18:42] <TheNytangel> CoLoN
#3620 [18:43] <CoLoN> but now i cant put something to cover the dust
#3621 [18:43] <CoLoN> someone wanna come look?
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#3623 [18:43] <TheNytangel> yeah sure
#3624 [18:43] <TheNytangel> :)
#3625 [18:43] <CoLoN> its my own server anyway
#3626 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> CoLoN: you cannot have something directly above, the resdtone isn't really "on" the block it appears on, it's actually in the bottom of the "air" block
#3627 [18:43] <TheNytangel> does it lag?
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#3629 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> CoLoN: so you need one more vertical space.
#3630 [18:44] <relsqui> yeah. basically, you're building a crawlspace for the wire to run through
#3631 [18:44] <TheNytangel> you need to dig the floor 2 deeper than it is, put down the redstone dust, and put the top layer back on to hide it >.>
#3632 [18:44] <relsqui> ^yeah, that
#3633 [18:44] <CoLoN> 97.81.101.85
#3634 [18:44] <CoLoN> 25565
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#3636 [18:45] <Rosemaster> Anyone else loading minecraft.net is really slow?
#3637 [18:45] <spkypwnsuall> Does anyone know if the minecraft.net server is down?
#3638 [18:45] <spkypwnsuall> yeah, i've had that a few times
#3639 [18:45] <Rosemaster> Glad not just me
#3640 [18:45] <spkypwnsuall> and logging into minecraft is taking ages
#3641 [18:46] <spkypwnsuall> DON"T BE GLAD! ITS SAD D:
#3642 [18:46] <Rosemaster> :(, i wass gunna have a look at buynow :(
#3643 [18:46] <Maxite> Yea, Minecraft.net is acting up for me as well.
#3644 [18:46] <spkypwnsuall> i still want to see if my minecraft actually works
#3645 [18:46] <spkypwnsuall> ok
#3646 [18:47] <Mathuin> It's Friday afternoon in the United States, which is home to many users. I wonder if that has anything to do with the load.
#3647 [18:47] <Cial> possibly
#3648 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> Well, if I cannot craft mines tonight, I can finally get started on Assassins' Creed 2.5
#3649 [18:49] <spkypwnsuall> lol
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#3652 [18:55] <relsqui> the trouble with designing houses, as in residences, in minecraft, is that there are so few functional purposes for rooms in this game :P
#3653 [18:55] <relsqui> when you can get by on a 2x2 space it's hard to justify elaborate expansion for functional reasons
#3654 [18:57] <NinjaKirby> It is a shame that, I agree, recently I've been redesigning the Mountain my base is on. Four Floors of room, and a massive Cavern, for what? :/
#3655 [18:57] <NinjaKirby> Guess in time there will be enough Fluff
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#3657 [18:58] <Mathuin> relsqui: I have a script that generates multi-story buildings. I could in theory have one be the "crafting" room and one be the "smelting" room, but really, a 5x7 space gives me two furnaces, a workbench, and three chests.
#3658 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: don't overthink it or you'll end up with a 3x1 room with a bed, chest, and statue.
#3659 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> </DF>
#3660 [18:59] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: sounds like my first studio apartment.
#3661 [18:59] <relsqui> haha
#3662 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> your apartment came with statuary?
#3663 [19:00] <feenyx> I just built a 1400+ block single lane bridge
#3664 [19:00] <relsqui> argh, it's also hard to protect a wheat field from trampling in a way that's not hideous
#3665 [19:00] <Mathuin> Well, unless you count the dumb blonde in the apartment across the yard who was unaware of how to use the blinds, no.
#3666 [19:00] <feenyx> then i put railway on top
#3667 [19:00] <Mathuin> feenyx: modeling something in specific?
#3668 [19:00] <Mathuin> relsqui: fence and torches?
#3669 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> feenyx: that's nothing.
#3670 [19:01] <relsqui> Mathuin: well--the trouble is that there are nearby blocks that mobs can use to jump in
#3671 [19:01] <feenyx> Mariu5: well first and foremost, it's to travel between points of interest, but I might model some bridges along the way :p
#3672 [19:01] <Mathuin> relsqui: Ah, maybe you should do some landscaping. :-)
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#3674 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> feenyx: http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/?lat=0.460205&lng=0.633199&zoom=7
#3675 [19:01] <Mathuin> feenyx: I am hoping to find some way to access the transportation map layers so I can install roads and railways.
#3676 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> you can see part of our skyway there.
#3677 [19:02] <feenyx> DopeGhoti: I've both seen and commended you on that magnificent construction before ^^
#3678 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> it's been getting expanded
#3679 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> we nearly have the loop from spawn to x-1000 to y-1000 to x0 back to spawn complete
#3680 [19:03] <feenyx> bejesus
#3681 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> actually, closer to 1400 or so
#3682 [19:03] <Mathuin> How long does a lap take?
#3683 [19:03] <feenyx> also, I'm thinking I should update my overviewer thing
#3684 [19:03] <feenyx> probably using an old version
#3685 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> going from the station nearest spawn to the first real stopping point takes about a quarter ingame day, boosted.
#3686 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> getting to the lighthouse takes about half a day
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#3688 [19:08] <feenyx> making a topo map now
#3689 [19:08] <Mathuin> I really like c10t.
#3690 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> I prefer mcmap
#3691 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> but c10t's not bad
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#3693 [19:10] <Mathuin> c10t does nice google for me, and it deals very well with huge maps.
#3694 [19:10] <Mathuin> Haven't really tried mcmap.
#3695 [19:10] <feenyx> do these do the same as Overviewer?
#3696 [19:10] <Mathuin> feenyx: haven't tried that.
#3697 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> feenyx: Treehouse, in progress- http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/?lat=0.557780&lng=0.501597&zoom=8
#3698 [19:11] <feenyx> ahaha, a house made of trees :p
#3699 [19:12] <feenyx> http://mancyclopedia.org/minecraft/topography.png
#3700 [19:12] <feenyx> gonna make an update gmap too
#3701 [19:13] <Mathuin> That's a twelve million pixel image. Pretty big.
#3702 [19:13] <Mathuin> Sorry, closer to fifteen. Big.
#3703 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Before I trimmed my map, I had mcmap generating an image measuring in at 48842 × 19434 pixels. At 72 DPI, it would, if printed, be 678.361 × 269.917 inches, or 56 feet, 6 inches, by 22 feet, 5 inches.
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#3705 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> (over 940,000,000 pixels)
#3706 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> Opening it in GIMP caused GIMP to allocate 9GiB of scratch space
#3707 [19:17] <feenyx> rofl
#3708 [19:19] <Shadow386> nice
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#3711 [19:25] <Mathuin> Why was your map so big, Dope?
#3712 [19:25] <relsqui> I wish that different kinds of animals were attracted by different things
#3713 [19:25] <relsqui> so I could, say, attract chickens but not pigs
#3714 [19:25] <Shadow386> it would be nice if sheep kept eating grass
#3715 [19:25] <Mathuin> Like a salt lick or something?
#3716 [19:25] <relsqui> haha, yeah
#3717 [19:25] <relsqui> I was thinking mushrooms for pigs
#3718 [19:26] <Mathuin> Mmm, truffles.
#3719 [19:26] <relsqui> 'xactly
#3720 [19:26] <Shadow386> cows and sheep eat grass, chickens...eat saplings? or wheat. squid eat fish (which he should add instead of fishing)
#3721 [19:26] <relsqui> XD
#3722 [19:26] <relsqui> iirc that's planned
#3723 [19:26] <Shadow386> pigs eat mushrooms, creepers eat trees, FULL trees, spiders eat chickens
#3724 [19:27] <relsqui> mostly I just have more pork than I particularly want to store
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#3726 [19:27] <Mathuin> relsqui: I'm willing to make extra chests for pork.
#3727 [19:28] <cfdpipeman> wasn't there supposed to be an update today?
#3728 [19:28] <Shadow386> no?
#3729 [19:28] <Shadow386> what makes you think that cfdpipeman?
#3730 [19:28] <cfdpipeman> I thought one of the splash messages in the game said there was supposed to be a secret update on Friday.
#3731 [19:29] <Mathuin> Those aren't meaningful in that sense.
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#3733 [19:29] <Mathuin> They refer to previous updates that were on Friday.
#3734 [19:29] <cfdpipeman> oic
#3735 [19:29] <cfdpipeman> nevermind then
#3736 [19:29] <Shadow386> he hasnt removed any lines from the splashes, only added on
#3737 [19:29] <cfdpipeman> lol
#3738 [19:29] <Shadow386> there USED to be secret friday updates EVERY friday
#3739 [19:29] <Shadow386> now its...once a month.
#3740 [19:29] <Shadow386> if we're lucky
#3741 [19:30] <cfdpipeman> My son is going to be dissapointed
#3742 [19:30] <cfdpipeman> oh well
#3743 [19:30] <cfdpipeman> thanks.
#3744 [19:30] <cfdpipeman> bbl
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#3748 [19:37] <airsoftglock> Hey can anyone help me with wom client?
#3749 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#3750 [19:37] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3751 [19:37] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3752 [19:37] <SinZ> its a wrapper for classic
#3753 [19:37] <SinZ> not a mod
#3754 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> It's a nonstandard client, therefore a mod.
#3755 [19:38] <lemon-rev> who got a minecraft t-shirt yet ?
#3756 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> Thinkgeek wants $25 for 'em. Pass.
#3757 [19:42] * DopeGhoti is waiting for the next Minecraft-themed Woot shirt.
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#3758 [19:53] <airsoftglock> Uhm small issue. The people in #RisuCraft are 100% ignoring me.
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#3761 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> that's rude of them, I'd say.
#3762 [19:56] <airsoftglock> Now ive gotta actually post a topic on the Support forums D: I think i might die.
#3763 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Something of an overraction, no?
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#3765 [20:09] <sprocket> hi
#3766 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> howdy
#3767 [20:10] <sprocket> how is everyone
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#3769 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> I'm doing great, but I'll get better. And yourself?
#3770 [20:11] <chesser45> how to make a new run.bat file
#3771 [20:11] <sprocket> not bad, was just in minecraft building my somewhat big watch tower
#3772 [20:12] <chesser45> how do I make a new minecraft server 1024m bat file launcher****
#3773 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - Make a text file, type in your launch command in there, save with a .bat extension
#3774 [20:13] <sprocket> i have no clue
#3775 [20:13] <sprocket> i have been trying to find coal and having no clue :P
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#3777 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> sprocket - You can make charcoal using wood and a furnace
#3778 [20:14] <sprocket> ohhh cool
#3779 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Charcoal_%28Item%29
#3780 [20:14] <sprocket> is that good for fuel?
#3781 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#3782 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Works in every way, the same as coal
#3783 [20:15] <sprocket> does it go out faster or is the burn time the same
#3784 [20:15] <sprocket> so far it didn't mention that
#3785 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> To find coal naturally, all you need to do is travel around a bit, look for natural caves, or stone that's exposed to the world. Coal will usually appear there
#3786 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Um, it should be the same burn time, one sec
#3787 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Furnace
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#3789 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Check fuel efficiency
#3790 [20:15] <SkiingPenguins> O_o
#3791 [20:16] <sprocket> ahh ok
#3792 [20:16] <sprocket> hehe
#3793 [20:16] <sprocket> thanks
#3794 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> No prob.
#3795 [20:16] <sprocket> still mining for diamonds they are so hard :P
#3796 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - You okay there?
#3797 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Indeed they are sprocket
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#3800 [20:17] <sprocket> anyone had luck finding diamonds
#3801 [20:17] <SkiingPenguins> they be near lava ^.^
#3802 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Try digging down, about um, 8-20 level above bedrock, if I remember correctly?
#3803 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> The wiki should tell you more
#3804 [20:18] <sprocket> cool
#3805 [20:18] <sprocket> i found tones of obisidian
#3806 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> Coal and charcoal are the same in all but name and stackability, for the record.
#3807 [20:18] <sprocket> nice thankls dope
#3808 [20:19] <chesser45> nope no luck
#3809 [20:19] <chesser45> ....
#3810 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - What part of the batch file doesn't make sense to you?
#3811 [20:19] <chesser45> it makes sense what to do
#3812 [20:19] <chesser45> but its not working
#3813 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> ?? error
#3814 [20:19] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message"
#3815 [20:19] <VoxelHead> error: we need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means;;If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#3816 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Define, "Not working"
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#3818 [20:19] <chesser45> sorry sec
#3819 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Do you have extensions turned on in windows?
#3820 [20:20] <chesser45> C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_20 \bin\java.exe
#3821 [20:20] <chesser45> -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.Min ecraftServer
#3822 [20:20] <chesser45> thats the stuff in notepad i did
#3823 [20:20] <chesser45> and yea i do
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#3825 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Do you happen to have "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_20 \bin\java.exe" enclosed in quotes?
#3826 [20:21] <chesser45> yea
#3827 [20:21] <SkiingPenguins> thats one of my pet peeves about windows :/ quoting program files
#3828 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you run the batch file in the command prompt, it'll give you more info as to what is wrong
#3829 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Or why it doesn't run
#3830 [20:22] <chesser45> ok i just gotta put a pause in
#3831 [20:22] <SkiingPenguins> i love pause!! omg! its so helpful <3
#3832 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Plus you have that whole thing as one line, right?
#3833 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> You pasted it as two
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#3835 [20:23] <chesser45> yea
#3836 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then. cmd returning any errors?
#3837 [20:24] <chesser45> it says it doesnt like :com/mojang
#3838 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Do you have the batch file in the same directory as the server?
#3839 [20:24] <chesser45> yea
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#3841 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you paste the exact error here
#3842 [20:25] <Effluo> Just was watching a few mad youtubevideos on minecraft and was wondering what the story was regarding this game and pc specs
#3843 [20:25] <Effluo> [01:24] <Effluo> Like doing regular things in this game isn't very demanding is it?
#3844 [20:25] <Effluo> [01:24] <Effluo> nvm
#3845 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Please don't flood a paste here
#3846 [20:25] <chesser45> cant copy out of cmd
#3847 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Sure you can
#3848 [20:25] <Effluo> It was a question
#3849 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Right click on it, select "mark", highlight the part you want, right click again
#3850 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Then paste it here
#3851 [20:26] <SkiingPenguins> :O
#3852 [20:26] <SkiingPenguins> GreyVulpine i would always highlight then Edit-Copy
#3853 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Effluo - Anything more than 3 lines at once is considered a flood here, and won't let you speak for a short time
#3854 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> SkiingPenguins - In cmd?
#3855 [20:26] <SkiingPenguins> yes
#3856 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#3857 [20:26] <chesser45> uhhh doesnt work
#3858 [20:27] <chesser45> nvm
#3859 [20:27] <chesser45> C:\Users\Brad\Desktop\mine craft server>"C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_20\bin\j
#3860 [20:27] <chesser45> ava.exe" -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.serve
#3861 [20:27] <chesser45> r.MinecraftServer
#3862 [20:27] <chesser45> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/mojang/minecraft/
#3863 [20:27] <chesser45> server/MinecraftServer
#3864 [20:27] <SkiingPenguins> ....
#3865 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> *headdesk*
#3866 [20:27] <sprocket> lol
#3867 [20:27] <chesser45> lol
#3868 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Could you "dir" that directory, and paste the output of that to pastebin.com
#3869 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> then give us the URL
#3870 [20:28] <Effluo> Glad0s
#3871 [20:28] <Effluo> Glados
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#3873 [20:28] <chesser45> yea
#3874 [20:28] <killergut> hello
#3875 [20:28] <xales> hi
#3876 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> 'lo killergut.
#3877 [20:28] <Effluo> Connell here from erepublik :p
#3878 [20:28] <killergut> can anyone help me on how to make and host a server/
#3879 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> killergut - What about the process is causing you trouble?
#3880 [20:29] <killergut> ok well
#3881 [20:29] <killergut> first problem
#3882 [20:29] <killergut> i lag like heck
#3883 [20:29] <killergut> i make the server and play on it im very laggy
#3884 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> You're running a client on the same computer as the server then?
#3885 [20:29] <killergut> ye
#3886 [20:29] <killergut> so im guessing i gota do in on another
#3887 [20:29] <killergut> i tried that
#3888 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have on the system?
#3889 [20:29] <chesser45> http://pastebin.com/S7vr7krJ
#3890 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> What are the specs?
#3891 [20:29] <killergut> not enough : P
#3892 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> That, would probably be why then
#3893 [20:29] <killergut> like 2g ram
#3894 [20:30] <killergut> ye but whne i did it on my other computer
#3895 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> "like" 2GiB, or actually 2 GiB?
#3896 [20:30] <killergut> i could not connec tto it
#3897 [20:30] <killergut> form here
#3898 [20:30] <xales> chesser45: don't launch it like that
#3899 [20:30] <xales> use java -jar minecraft-server.jar
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#3901 [20:30] <killergut> well i can only use 1.8
#3902 [20:30] <killergut> cus i have vista
#3903 [20:30] <killergut> o wait no i dont lol
#3904 [20:30] <xales> that's definately not enough then
#3905 [20:30] <killergut> forgot i changed to windows
#3906 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> vista == windows
#3907 [20:31] <killergut> well ye techincally
#3908 [20:31] <SkiingPenguins> win7?
#3909 [20:31] <chesser45> where do i use that ?
#3910 [20:31] <killergut> yep
#3911 [20:31] <chesser45> in what part of the line?
#3912 [20:31] <killergut> ok well on my other computer i hosted it
#3913 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - Could you do the command "dir"?
#3914 [20:31] <killergut> but i cant connect to it from this comp
#3915 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - Then paste it at pastebin.com
#3916 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> killergut - What were you using to connect?
#3917 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> What IP?
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#3919 [20:32] <chesser45> http://pastebin.com/u7VSL83n
#3920 [20:32] <killergut> arg my dad closed it -.-
#3921 [20:33] <killergut> wellt he ip i was using was 74.161.161.193
#3922 [20:33] <killergut> its the same on both comp
#3923 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Did you update the port forwarding to go to the other computer?
#3924 [20:33] <killergut> now that
#3925 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Or did you try to use the internal IP?
#3926 [20:33] <killergut> i ddi not do
#3927 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Either will work
#3928 [20:33] <killergut> i thin internal ip
#3929 [20:33] <killergut> o
#3930 [20:34] <killergut> whats the internal ip
#3931 [20:34] <chesser45> http://pastebin.com/u7VSL83n
#3932 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> killergut - Do cmd at the run command of the other computer, then ipconfig
#3933 [20:34] <killergut> ok
#3934 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> That'll give you the internal ip address of the other computer
#3935 [20:34] <killergut> and then i just use that ip?
#3936 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - I need the "dir" in the /desktop/minecraft server/ directory
#3937 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> killergut - Yes
#3938 [20:35] <killergut> ok thanks ill try that :D
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#3940 [20:38] <chesser45> uhh a bit more detail here
#3941 [20:38] <sardonyx> anyone have a good link to some docs on how to improve server performance? I've got plenty of bandwidth, the server's memory/cpu isn't maxed out, yet people are still having lag issues.
#3942 [20:38] <xales> sardonyx: "plenty of bandwidth" - does that mean like, 1000GB/month, or actual internet speed
#3943 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> Is your system using swap? How's the hard drive in terms of IO performance? How's network latency from the server to all points of the world?
#3944 [20:39] <sardonyx> xales, 10mb down 1mb up, and i'm hitting like 300k up...so it seems there's plenty left over
#3945 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - type: cd desktop/mine craft server
#3946 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - Then "dir" there
#3947 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> I'll need the pastebin of that
#3948 [20:39] <xales> sardonyx: how are you launching the server? any mods?
#3949 [20:39] <sardonyx> xales, nope, just vanilla MC
#3950 [20:40] <xales> sardonyx: are you using the exe?
#3951 [20:40] <sardonyx> xales, yes
#3952 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> wait, one Mbit upstream?
#3953 [20:40] <xales> sardonyx: are you trying to play on the same computer you are hosting from?
#3954 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> that's.. not a lot.
#3955 [20:40] <xales> ^
#3956 [20:40] <sardonyx> xales, no, it's a dedicated server...computer i'm playing on is within the same LAN
#3957 [20:41] <xales> sardonyx: does it lag with just one person playing?
#3958 [20:41] <sardonyx> DopeGhoti, yeah 1mbps up...seems ok for most other games, and like i said i'm only seeing like 300kbps utilized
#3959 [20:41] <sardonyx> xales, with one external person connected they get minor lag, two people bumps it up quite a bit
#3960 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft isn't 'most other games'
#3961 [20:41] <sardonyx> xales, or so they tell me...
#3962 [20:41] <sardonyx> hah
#3963 [20:41] <sardonyx> ok
#3964 [20:42] <chesser45> http://pastebin.com/Jbfp3M41
#3965 [20:42] <xales> sardonyx: Does it lag for you, with just one person playing (you specifically)?
#3966 [20:42] <xales> If it doesn't, then it's a network problem
#3967 [20:42] <sardonyx> xales, i've only played from within the LAN, and no, no lag issues for me
#3968 [20:43] <xales> sardonyx: It sounds like a network issue then
#3969 [20:43] <chesser45> http://pastebin.com/Jbfp3M41
#3970 [20:43] <sardonyx> xales, i agree...you think it's simple as not fast enough upload speed?
#3971 [20:43] <Effluo> I should have just googled it :p Soz
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#3973 [20:43] <xales> sardonyx: sounds that way
#3974 [20:43] <xales> chesser45: I think I see the problem :P
#3975 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3976 [20:43] <xales> you have stuff named funny
#3977 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> "minecraft_server(2).jar"
#3978 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Your batch file is trying to call minecraft-server.jar
#3979 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> ..did Effluo ever actually ask anything?
#3980 [20:44] <chesser45> ......enter dumbass
#3981 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> First off chesser45 - Are you trying to run a classic or beta server?
#3982 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> also, watch your _s and -s.
#3983 [20:44] <chesser45> beta
#3984 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then
#3985 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Rename minecraft_server(2).jar to just minecraft_server.jar
#3986 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Then, in the batch file, rename accordingly
#3987 [20:45] <chesser45> main problem i dont look at the fine details
#3988 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> delete the
#3989 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> #MineCraftHelp
#3990 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> com.mojang.minecraft.serve
#3991 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> #MineCraftHelp
#3992 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> r.MinecraftServer
#3993 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> er, damnit
#3994 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> chesser45: if you're going to run a server, you will find that attentiveness to details is _extremely_ important.
#3995 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer
#3996 [20:45] <chesser45> haha ive noticed
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#3998 [20:46] <xales> lolwut
#3999 [20:46] <xales> I have umode +w for some reason
#4000 [20:46] <chesser45> worked with linux for a while but fine details still go by me
#4001 [20:46] <xales> I don't remember setting that
#4002 [20:46] <xales> =/
#4003 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Heh, that's surprising, linux is even more.. strict
#4004 [20:47] <xales> GreyVulpine: Not all the time, Ubuntu and Mint not so much
#4005 [20:48] <chesser45> okplasma : overseas developing country os with school subjects ect
#4006 [20:48] <chesser45> fun stuff
#4007 [20:48] <MDanz> 1:48am here
#4008 [20:49] <MDanz> anyone konw the site to download skins?
#4009 [20:49] <xales> ??> MDanz google
#4010 [20:49] <VoxelHead> MDanz: (google) http://google.com/ is your friend. Do not expect us to find things for you, when you are just as capable of using Google on your own. We aren't your personal Internet guide.
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#4013 [20:53] <chesser45> I think im doing something wrong here which isnt surprising
#4014 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#4015 [20:55] <chesser45> im still failing miserably
#4016 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Start with the batch file, what is in it?
#4017 [20:56] <chesser45> everything that was there before
#4018 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Uh. paste it here?
#4019 [20:56] <chesser45> minus the mojang i was told to dlete
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#4021 [20:57] <chesser45> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_20\bin\java.exe" -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -cp minecraft_server.jar
#4022 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> change '-cp' to '-jar'
#4023 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Alright, did you rename the minecraft_server(2).jar to minecraft_server.jar?
#4024 [20:57] <chesser45> yea
#4025 [20:57] <mib_k1sk24> how come when i try to change my skin i keep getting an error code?
#4026 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_k1sk24 - Don't use minecraftskins.com to change your skin
#4027 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_k1sk24 error
#4028 [20:58] <VoxelHead> mib_k1sk24: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message"
#4029 [20:58] <VoxelHead> mib_k1sk24: (error) we need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means;;If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#4030 [20:58] <chesser45> right nvm
#4031 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Download the skin from that site, then log into minecraft.net, go to your profile page
#4032 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> then upload it from there
#4033 [20:58] <chesser45> sorry graMATICAL ERROR
#4034 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Cheerio - ?
#4035 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> er
#4036 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> chesser45 - ?
#4037 [20:58] <mib_k1sk24> kk thank you
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#4039 [20:58] <chesser45> cp instead of jar
#4040 [20:58] <chesser45> lol
#4041 [20:58] <chesser45> ......
#4042 [20:59] <chesser45> forgot to change that from the start
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#4044 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> I suppose that worked
#4045 [21:01] <bubblefish4> hello
#4046 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#4047 [21:02] <bubblefish4> minecraft won't work
#4048 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific? What happens?
#4049 [21:02] <bubblefish4> i load it and it says i need to play online
#4050 [21:02] <bubblefish4> and then
#4051 [21:03] <bubblefish4> i played on the online thingy and all it came up with was a black screen
#4052 [21:03] <bubblefish4> what do i do?
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#4054 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> bubblefish4: what OS are you running?
#4055 [21:04] <bubblefish4> i am on windows xp
#4056 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/reinst
#4057 [21:04] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4058 [21:04] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4059 [21:05] <mib_k1sk24> will the upload for skindex be fixed
#4060 [21:05] <bubblefish4> i don't understand sorry
#4061 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_k1sk24 - We don't know, it's not an official index of skins. It's maintained by somebody else
#4062 [21:06] <bubblefish4> no i meant what volex head said
#4063 [21:06] <mib_k1sk24> When u try to download a skin i says wait till the next day i try and keep getting Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/ked1215.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:06:12 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request
#4064 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> bubblefish4: just follow the directions you have been given.
#4065 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_k1sk24 - That's because you're trying to use minecraftskins.com to upload
#4066 [21:06] <bubblefish4> but i don't have those keyboard keys!
#4067 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Don't use minecraftskins.com to upload directly
#4068 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Download it from minecraftskins.com, then use minecraft.net, at your profile page, to upload it
#4069 [21:07] <mib_k1sk24> how should i do it then download it?
#4070 [21:07] <mib_k1sk24> ok ty
#4071 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/key
#4072 [21:07] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#4073 [21:07] <VoxelHead> win/key: Meanwhile, send an angry letter to keyboard manufacturers for not calling it Meta, Super, or something else more reasonable.
#4074 [21:07] <bubblefish4> oh
#4075 [21:08] <bubblefish4> thanks!
#4076 [21:08] <bubblefish4> :)
#4077 [21:09] <GoingHome> ..oops, that was supplsed to be /away
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#4079 [21:10] <bubblefish4> minecraft did not install it just reopened
#4080 [21:13] <bubblefish4> this is not helping i am annoyed
#4081 [21:14] <bubblefish4> thanks anyway please help!
#4082 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#4083 [21:15] <bubblefish4> nevermind i give up
#4084 [21:15] <bubblefish4> ):
#4085 [21:15] <bubblefish4> :(
#4086 [21:18] <bubblefish4> minecraft is annoying!
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#4088 [21:19] <bubblefish4> can someone help me?
#4089 [21:19] <nevercast> Yes
#4090 [21:19] <nevercast> Lol..
#4091 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Could you start from the top?
#4092 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> What's wrong?
#4093 [21:20] <bubblefish4> i load it and it says i need to play online and then i played on the online thingy and all it came up with was a black screen what do i do?
#4094 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Okay, I assume this was with a minecraft client, that you downloaded from minecraft.net?
#4095 [21:21] <bubblefish4> i downloaded it from minecraft.net
#4096 [21:21] <nevercast> bubblefish4, What's your login for Minecraft.net?
#4097 [21:21] <nevercast> Your username?
#4098 [21:21] <bubblefish4> bubblefish4
#4099 [21:21] <nevercast> !paid bubblefish4
#4100 [21:21] <nevercast> There is your problem.
#4101 [21:22] <bubblefish4> :(
#4102 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#4103 [21:22] <bubblefish4> no
#4104 [21:22] <bubblefish4> i got the free thingy
#4105 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Well, then you're not a premium user, and cannot play
#4106 [21:22] <nevercast> The answer to that question would seem appearant
#4107 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Only premium users are able to play beta
#4108 [21:23] <nevercast> You can play Classic without paying bubblefish4.
#4109 [21:23] <bubblefish4> so how do i play minecraft?
#4110 [21:23] <nevercast> But it's nothing like Beta
#4111 [21:23] <nevercast> You pay for it.
#4112 [21:23] <bubblefish4> that is my problem!
#4113 [21:23] <bubblefish4> it does not work on classic
#4114 [21:23] <relsqui> yeah, the client is for beta
#4115 [21:24] <nevercast> You can't download the classic I don't think
#4116 [21:24] <nevercast> It's web browser is it not?
#4117 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> You can't download the client for classic. It's only browser based
#4118 [21:24] <bubblefish4> it is but it DOES NOT WORK!
#4119 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> (WoM excluded)
#4120 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then, bubblefish4, try clearing your cache, try it again
#4121 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Try a different browser, see if it still has the same problem
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#4123 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Then, start looking at what version of java you have
#4124 [21:25] <bubblefish4> i did that a lot
#4125 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> If it's out of date, update it
#4126 [21:25] <bubblefish4> i did
#4127 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Try reinstalling java? Completely removing it before going to java.com to install it?
#4128 [21:25] <nevercast> Hold up
#4129 [21:26] <nevercast> bubblefish4, You're sure you went here? http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#4130 [21:26] <nevercast> Or at least here? http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp
#4131 [21:27] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Just checking he was using the classic web version. not beta.
#4132 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
#4133 [21:27] <nevercast> Actually
#4134 [21:27] <nevercast> My screen has gone black too
#4135 [21:27] <nevercast> and the server page wont load
#4136 [21:27] <nevercast> I think minecraft is semi-down at the moment.
#4137 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> the server page is down
#4138 [21:27] <bubblefish4> exactly my problem
#4139 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Classic in SP still works for me
#4140 [21:29] <nevercast> Classic SP isn't functioning for me.. one sec
#4141 [21:29] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Remove classic from your local cache
#4142 [21:29] <nevercast> see if it still loads then
#4143 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, alright, one sec
#4144 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Still works for me. I normally don't keep any cache on this browser
#4145 [21:32] <nevercast> I mean that it probably downloads bin files to your user directory
#4146 [21:32] <nevercast> Oh wait
#4147 [21:32] <nevercast> It's working on my Desktop
#4148 [21:32] <nevercast> bubblefish4, Are you using Linux?
#4149 [21:32] <nevercast> or windows?
#4150 [21:32] <bubblefish4> no i use windows
#4151 [21:33] <nevercast> Update your Java
#4152 [21:33] <nevercast> Update your Graphics Drivers
#4153 [21:33] <bubblefish4> i did
#4154 [21:33] <bubblefish4> i did both
#4155 [21:33] <nevercast> What version of Windows?
#4156 [21:33] <bubblefish4> xp
#4157 [21:33] <nevercast> What graphics card?
#4158 [21:33] <bubblefish4> i forgot
#4159 [21:33] <nevercast> Hmm
#4160 [21:33] <nevercast> Is it external or motherboard?
#4161 [21:34] <bubblefish4> i don't know sorry
#4162 [21:34] <nevercast> Okay so probably onboard
#4163 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> How did you update your video card then, if you don't know what it is?
#4164 [21:34] <nevercast> Yeah i'd say
#4165 [21:34] <bubblefish4> well i
#4166 [21:34] <bubblefish4> oh i give up i quit trying to make it work it is a waste of time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#4167 [21:35] <nevercast> Haha
#4168 [21:35] <nevercast> Well if you're not gonna try fix it
#4169 [21:35] <nevercast> we're not gonna try help
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#4171 [21:35] <bubblefish4> I DID TRY FIXING IT YOU........
#4172 [21:35] <nevercast> I asked you if you'd updated your graphics drivers.
#4173 [21:35] <nevercast> Have you done so?
#4174 [21:36] <bubblefish4> yes
#4175 [21:36] <nevercast> If so, how? Did you go to a support site for your computer?
#4176 [21:36] <bubblefish4> yes..............
#4177 [21:36] <nevercast> If you did. Can you give us the link of the page you got your drivers as this will tell us about your graphics card
#4178 [21:36] <nevercast> Which will help us diagnose the problem.
#4179 [21:36] <bubblefish4> no
#4180 [21:36] <nevercast> Why can't you?
#4181 [21:38] <bubblefish4> THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#4182 [21:38] <xales> It wouldn't be if you would cooperate and answer questions
#4183 [21:38] <bubblefish4> I COULD BE EDITING MY NEW GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#4184 [21:38] <xales> Chill with the caps and !s
#4185 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> We can't help you, if you're not willing to help yourself. If you think this is a waste of time, then you're also wasting our time as well.
#4186 [21:39] <relsqui> if you'd like to do something else with your time, you're free to. :) but if you'd like to try and figure out why minecraft isn't working for you, that will require some conversation
#4187 [21:40] <bubblefish4> Don't worry i will ask someone else
#4188 [21:41] <relsqui> I don't think anyone was terribly worried. >_>
#4189 [21:41] <xales> I don't think asking someone else will magically make the problem go away
#4190 [21:41] <xales> you will still need to do something to fix it
#4191 [21:41] <bubblefish4> it is an expresion you IDIOT!
#4192 [21:41] <bubblefish4> sorry
#4193 [21:41] <relsqui> haha
#4194 [21:41] <xales> what?
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#4196 [21:42] * relsqui sits back with popcorn to watch the dancing flames on the bridge
#4196 [21:42] <relsqui> it's kind of pretty
#4197 [21:42] <bubblefish4> ?........ nah i am not gonna bother with this annoying thing!
#4198 [21:43] <nevercast> Okay then
#4199 [21:43] <bubblefish4> ******** this
#4200 [21:43] <nevercast> In that case bubblefish4.
#4201 [21:43] <bubblefish4> sorry guys
#4202 [21:43] <nevercast> /quit
#4203 [21:43] <nevercast> would be appreciated..
#4204 [21:43] <nevercast> It's okay
#4205 [21:43] <nevercast> Just in future
#4206 [21:43] <bubblefish4> goo-d idea!
#4207 [21:43] <nevercast> Don't get angry at those trying to help
#4208 [21:43] <bubblefish4> cya
#4209 [21:43] <nevercast> have a good one.
#4210 [21:43] <nevercast> bye
#4211 [21:44] <bubblefish4> sorry guys......cya
#4212 [21:44] <nevercast> Mibbit user has left the channel.
#4213 [21:44] <xales> Mibbit = must be ggline
#4214 [21:44] <relsqui> you know how infants, before they learn to talk, can't really express different grades of emotion? any strong feeling just becomes screaming and crying?
#4215 [21:44] <xales> ggline = both gg, and global-global
#4216 [21:45] <nevercast> Hahahha, You think he was the same relsqui
#4217 [21:45] <relsqui> just a thought
#4218 [21:46] <relsqui> also, damn, I think of myself as pretty patient, but you guys have me beat by a long shot >_<
#4219 [21:46] <nevercast> Ha :)
#4220 [21:47] <nevercast> It is a virtue.
#4221 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Sorta what we do here
#4222 [21:47] <relsqui> yeah, I know. but I've been that guy too, and still
#4223 [21:47] <relsqui> well, anyway
#4224 [21:47] * relsqui goes back to trying to build a dining table and chairs that are actually scaled for each other
#4224 [21:47] <nevercast> Lol relsqui
#4225 [21:47] <nevercast> Char is
#4226 [21:47] <nevercast> well
#4227 [21:47] <nevercast> actually
#4228 [21:47] <nevercast> hmm
#4229 [21:48] <xales> relsqui: this is me losing my patience. http://darksigns.net/resinate.log
#4230 [21:48] <relsqui> actually matching each other visually is even harder
#4231 [21:48] <xales> :P
#4232 [21:48] <nevercast> What if you have.. wait that wont work
#4233 [21:48] * nevercast powers up mine craft and goes to make some table and chairs
#4233 [21:48] <nevercast> MISSION!
#4234 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Oh right, that guy
#4235 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Did he try to continuously message you? Trying to get in the last word?
#4236 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> s/Did/Didn't
#4237 [21:49] <xales> GreyVulpine: no, that was opp
#4238 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#4239 [21:49] <relsqui> 23:51:50<resinate> thats bs that the ppl who pay for this game have to suffer what botters do
#4240 [21:49] <xales> and I think he was akilled for a very, very long time
#4241 [21:49] <relsqui> loool
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#4243 [21:50] <relsqui> yeah that's pretty obnoxious
#4244 [21:50] <relsqui> and in a PM too :|
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#4246 [21:50] <relsqui> uncool
#4247 [21:50] <Checkzor> Alright so, mysql is not installing properly on my dedicated :(
#4248 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> xales has really gotten some good gems...
#4249 [21:51] <relsqui> dagnabbit
#4250 [21:51] * relsqui screws up, bakes more stone
#4250 [21:51] <Checkzor> Xales!
#4251 [21:51] <xales> ?
#4252 [21:51] <Checkzor> your Mr.Centos
#4253 [21:52] <xales> No, that's Kealper
#4254 [21:52] <xales> Centos is horribad
#4255 [21:52] <Checkzor> shh i'ts you right now
#4256 [21:52] <relsqui> lol
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#4258 [21:52] <Checkzor> http://mibpaste.com/5nH1Uq
#4259 [21:52] <Checkzor> clickly
#4260 [21:53] <Checkzor> I'm freaking root how can I be an invalid user
#4261 [21:53] <Checkzor> fuuuuuuu
#4262 [21:53] <nevercast> LOL
#4263 [21:53] <nevercast> You nub
#4264 [21:53] <nevercast> It's telling you that the user and the group
#4265 [21:53] <nevercast> myself
#4266 [21:53] <xales> How did you install mysql?
#4267 [21:53] <nevercast> don't exist
#4268 [21:53] <nevercast> s/myself/mysql/
#4269 [21:53] <nevercast> derp.
#4270 [21:53] <Checkzor> yum install php-mysql mysql mysql-server
#4271 [21:53] <nevercast> create the group, mysql.
#4272 [21:53] <nevercast> then create the user, mysql
#4273 [21:54] <nevercast> then add the user to the group
#4274 [21:54] <nevercast> game, set, match
#4275 [21:54] <Checkzor> alrighty
#4276 [21:54] <Checkzor> I am a nub :p
#4277 [21:54] <nevercast> :P
#4278 [21:54] <xales> you probably shouldn't be using centos then
#4279 [21:54] <Checkzor> walk me through that command by command lol :P
#4280 [21:54] <xales> in fact..you shouldn't be using centos at all
#4281 [21:54] <nevercast> urgh
#4282 [21:54] <nevercast> okay
#4283 [21:54] <nevercast> Ctrl+Alt+T
#4284 [21:54] <nevercast> Fire up that terminal
#4285 [21:54] <Checkzor> xales shh, your no longer centosguy he is
#4286 [21:54] <Checkzor> it's up
#4287 [21:54] <nevercast> Fuck centos lol.
#4288 [21:54] <xales> centos = terribad
#4289 [21:54] <nevercast> I'm a debian guy
#4290 [21:54] <xales> ^
#4291 [21:54] <relsqui> woot, got the table up
#4292 [21:55] <nevercast> but I'm sure the user shit is all standard for linux kernals
#4293 [21:55] <relsqui> it's kinda sketchy but it'll do
#4294 [21:55] <Checkzor> alrighty I am in terminal via ssh
#4295 [21:56] <nevercast> Okay Checkzor
#4296 [21:56] <Kealper> what's what? why am i mr. centos >.>
#4297 [21:56] <nevercast> I'll user a $ sign to represent a terminal prompt
#4298 [21:56] <nevercast> *use a
#4299 [21:56] <nevercast> $ useradd mysql
#4300 [21:56] <nevercast> create the user.
#4301 [21:57] <nevercast> $ passwd mysql
#4302 [21:57] <Checkzor> done
#4303 [21:57] <nevercast> That will prompt for a password for your mysql user
#4304 [21:57] <nevercast> done the password too?
#4305 [21:57] <Checkzor> done
#4306 [21:57] <Checkzor> ypu
#4307 [21:57] <Checkzor> yup*
#4308 [21:58] <nevercast> $ groupadd mysql
#4309 [21:58] <Checkzor> msql exists
#4310 [21:58] <nevercast> okay
#4311 [21:58] <Checkzor> groupadd: group mysql exists
#4312 [21:58] <nevercast> Okay
#4313 [21:58] <nevercast> $useradd -G mysql mysql
#4314 [21:59] <Checkzor> done
#4315 [21:59] <nevercast> did it work?
#4316 [21:59] <nevercast> as in
#4317 [21:59] <nevercast> no error
#4318 [21:59] <nevercast> If so
#4319 [21:59] <nevercast> then try $ service mysqld start
#4320 [21:59] <Checkzor> put in the command and hit enter
#4321 [21:59] <Checkzor> hmm
#4322 [21:59] <Checkzor> not response
#4323 [21:59] <nevercast> $ ps aux | grep mysqld
#4324 [22:00] <Checkzor> http://mibpaste.com/XzfDVn
#4325 [22:00] <Checkzor> hmmmm
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#4327 [22:00] <xales> tail /var/log/mysql.log
#4328 [22:00] <xales> ^run that
#4329 [22:00] <Checkzor> tail: cannot open `/var/log/mysql.log' for reading: No such file or directory
#4330 [22:00] <xales> gah
#4331 [22:00] <xales> /var/log/syslog
#4332 [22:01] <xales> I'm not sure where it logs
#4333 [22:01] <xales> somewhere in /var/log
#4334 [22:01] <nevercast> lol.
#4335 [22:01] <TheNytangel> well
#4336 [22:01] <xales> mine is mysql.log
#4337 [22:01] <TheNytangel> im back
#4338 [22:01] <xales> but centos is retarded
#4339 [22:01] <nevercast> ^
#4340 [22:02] <nevercast> "but centos is retarded"
#4341 [22:02] <TheNytangel> i started CoLoN's castle on fire :)
#4342 [22:02] <nevercast> That's going on my wall of quotes.
#4343 [22:02] <relsqui> oh dagnabbit. I just realized why this won't work >_< slab floor, can't put chairs on it. or, can, but they'll hover
#4344 [22:02] <xales> nevercast: qdb it
#4345 [22:02] <nevercast> adb?
#4346 [22:02] <nevercast> *qdb
#4347 [22:02] <Checkzor> I now understand centos is retarted -_-
#4348 [22:02] <nevercast> quote database?
#4349 [22:02] * nevercast assumes acronym
#4349 [22:02] <xales> nevercast: it's bash.org but newer and actually updated
#4350 [22:02] <xales> qdb.us
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#4352 [22:03] <Checkzor> oh hey xales I found the log
#4353 [22:03] <relsqui> haha
#4354 [22:03] <Checkzor> or not
#4355 [22:03] <Checkzor> nvm
#4356 [22:03] <xales> ._.
#4357 [22:03] <xales> try /var/log/mysql.err
#4358 [22:03] <Checkzor> tail /var/log/mysql.err
#4359 [22:03] <relsqui> I'm kind of spoiled, I run my own quote database so I don't have to wait for people to approve my quotes >_>
#4360 [22:03] <xales> relsqui: but nobody reads it
#4361 [22:03] <relsqui> not actually true :)
#4362 [22:03] <Checkzor> tail: cannot open `/var/log/mysql.err' for reading: No such file or directory
#4363 [22:03] <relsqui> I mean, not a ton of people, but a couple thousand hits a day
#4364 [22:04] <xales> Checkzor, if it's not too late..switch to a real OS
#4365 [22:04] <Checkzor> tad late :(
#4366 [22:04] <xales> why?
#4367 [22:04] <Checkzor> it's a dedicated
#4368 [22:04] <Checkzor> i has to pay money
#4369 [22:04] <xales> so?
#4370 [22:04] <Checkzor> no free os reinstalls
#4371 [22:04] <xales> lol...get a better host
#4372 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> ....
#4373 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> That's a crappy host
#4374 [22:04] <xales> ^
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#4376 [22:05] <Checkzor> I'm getting a good deal
#4377 [22:05] <xales> It's not really a deal then
#4378 [22:05] <nevercast> How good?
#4379 [22:05] <xales> you lack in customer service
#4380 [22:05] <nevercast> Yeah I'd say
#4381 [22:05] <xales> that's probably why it's cheap :P
#4382 [22:05] <Checkzor> $89 for 8gb ram quad core
#4383 [22:05] <Checkzor> anyhow
#4384 [22:05] <xales> you could debootstrap it
#4385 [22:05] <Checkzor> anyhow back to toruble shooting >_>
#4386 [22:05] <xales> lol
#4387 [22:05] <Checkzor> trouble*
#4388 [22:05] <Vasette> Pardon my interruption folks, but I'm new to minecraft and have a few questions problems. I was directed here ... I'm in the right place?
#4389 [22:05] <xales> nevercast, ever installed Debian remotely with debootstrap?
#4390 [22:06] <xales> Vasette: Yup, go ahead and ask the questions
#4391 [22:06] <Checkzor> xales next dedicated, I will use ubuntu or something
#4392 [22:06] <Checkzor> happy?
#4393 [22:06] <xales> Checkzor: The goal isn't to make me happy, it's to make you happy :P
#4394 [22:06] <Checkzor> I just want mysql to run :(
#4395 [22:06] <Vasette> Um first ... the few servers that I've found the IP's for won't let me connect (for multiplayer) is it on my end and I just can't connect or maybe the server is down?
#4396 [22:06] <xales> Vasette: What error do you get?
#4397 [22:07] <Checkzor> try mine vasette
#4398 [22:07] <Checkzor> truesurvival.net
#4399 [22:07] <Vasette> moment
#4400 [22:07] <Checkzor> see if you can connect, if you can't the login server might be going slow
#4401 [22:07] <xales> it all depends on what error you get :P
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#4403 [22:08] <Sombreo> world of goo is better than mine carft
#4404 [22:08] <Zippit_> ^No :3
#4405 [22:08] <lemon-rev> lol
#4406 [22:08] <lemon-rev> then you fool
#4407 [22:08] <relsqui> Sombreo: yeah, gray is better than seven
#4408 [22:08] <nevercast> xales, Nah I never have ae.
#4409 [22:08] <nevercast> xales, It's always been via disc or image
#4410 [22:08] <xales> nevercast: It's loads of fun
#4411 [22:08] <Vasette> ok I connected ... thank you Checkzor ... was most likely a down server.
#4412 [22:08] <Sombreo> well world of goo at least it is challenging
#4413 [22:08] <Checkzor> see xales I can help people!
#4414 [22:08] <xales> nevercast: fun like dwarf fortress fun :P
#4415 [22:09] <Vasette> 2nd question;
#4416 [22:09] <relsqui> Sombreo: so you don't like sandbox games. that's nice :)
#4417 [22:09] <xales> Sombreo: Do you need help, or are you just here to troll?
#4418 [22:09] <relsqui> Sombreo: we don't have to make an absolute objective ranking of games. it is okay for some people to like some things and other people to like others.
#4419 [22:09] <nevercast> Haha, xales.. So not very fun then?
#4420 [22:09] <Sombreo> i like sand box
#4421 [22:09] <xales> nevercast: About as fun as shooting yourself in the foot
#4422 [22:09] <xales> with a .50
#4423 [22:09] <nevercast> Hey does anyone know a mod that makes lighting maybe less accurate but it doesn't eat my cpu cycles?
#4424 [22:09] <nevercast> The lighting in minecraft is a killer on my celeron
#4425 [22:10] <Vasette> Texture packages. I've found a few tutorials how to put a texture package into play ... but I always get errors copying from one zip file to the other.
#4426 [22:10] <Vasette> i'm on vista btw
#4427 [22:10] <Sombreo> you guys are noobs
#4428 [22:10] <nevercast> No you noob Sombreo
#4429 [22:10] <Checkzor> anyhow
#4430 [22:10] <Checkzor> I still need some help :(
#4431 [22:10] <Zippit_> Nevercast: Have you tried putting minecraft on first priority?
#4432 [22:10] <nevercast> Zippit_, Yeah I have
#4433 [22:11] <Zippit_> Have you tried closing unwanted processes?
#4434 [22:11] <Sombreo> ha ha ha ha ha ha me a noob you are the noob
#4435 [22:11] <Checkzor> this guy^
#4436 [22:11] <Zippit_> Me?
#4437 [22:11] * xales kicked Sombreo from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: You are a pretty shitty troll, just sayin')
#4438 [22:11] <Checkzor> no
#4439 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> damnit xales
#4440 [22:11] <Checkzor> this guy needs to be kicked
#4441 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> ninja'd
#4442 [22:11] <Checkzor> or that
#4443 [22:11] <xales> GreyVulpine: /alias k kick
#4444 [22:11] <xales> :D
#4445 [22:11] <nevercast> Zippit_, I have most things disabled.
#4446 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#4447 [22:11] <nevercast> pfft
#4448 [22:12] <Zippit_> How old is you cpu :P
#4449 [22:12] <Checkzor> sql pftttt
#4450 [22:12] <nevercast> Zippit_, It's a celeron.. Need I say more?
#4451 [22:12] <Zippit_> Okay.
#4452 [22:12] <Checkzor> I got a deal for ya nevercast
#4453 [22:12] <nevercast> What's that Checkzor ?
#4454 [22:12] <Zippit_> I dont know what you could do :P
#4455 [22:12] <nevercast> Lol!
#4456 [22:12] <nevercast> Thanks anyway Zippit_
#4457 [22:13] <Zippit_> PI have a mod for you, but no mobs can spawn (Monsters)
#4458 [22:13] <Zippit_> I*
#4459 [22:14] <Zippit_> Makes all the blocks (except air) glowing with max light value.
#4460 [22:14] <Zippit_> Sometimes the array used in light calculating gets so big, that I have to "kill" the light calculating. So - there can be some dark areas. Just set and remove a torch in there to fix it.
#4461 [22:14] <nevercast> Hmm
#4462 [22:14] <nevercast> I should invest in another mod
#4463 [22:14] <nevercast> better mod
#4464 [22:14] <nevercast> Game believes light values are standard
#4465 [22:14] <xales> nevercase
#4466 [22:14] <xales> cast*
#4467 [22:15] <nevercast> yes?
#4468 [22:15] <nevercast> lol.
#4469 [22:15] <xales> have you seen the new launcher?
#4470 [22:15] <nevercast> new launcher?
#4471 [22:15] <nevercast> no
#4472 [22:15] <nevercast> I don't think so
#4473 [22:15] <xales> ooh, you'll love this
#4474 [22:15] <xales> 10:30:32 < notch> This will require some technical know-how: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/tmp/MinecraftLauncher.jar
#4475 [22:15] <xales> just run the jar
#4476 [22:15] <xales> no need for the heap parameters, just run it
#4477 [22:16] <nevercast> What's it do, xales?
#4478 [22:16] <xales> 10:31:32 < notch> News in there: Only updates changed files, asks if you want to upgrade, shows update news, logs in via HTTPS, and is prettier.
#4479 [22:16] <Zippit_> I don't trust it :3
#4480 [22:16] <xales> Zippit_: It comes from Notch's twitter
#4481 [22:17] <nevercast> In that case
#4482 [22:17] <nevercast> I can go to my twitter
#4483 [22:17] <nevercast> look at my feed
#4484 [22:17] <nevercast> and paste the link from there into my desktop
#4485 [22:17] <nevercast> insted of typing across two computers ^T_^
#4486 [22:17] <xales> http://twitter.com/notch/status/38621269331025921
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#4488 [22:17] <xales> Iggy, where you been?
#4489 [22:17] <Vasette> Did anyone possibly see my question about texture packs?
#4490 [22:18] <xales> we missed you in here D:
#4491 [22:18] <xales> Vasette: sorry, think I missed is =/ ask again
#4492 [22:18] <Iguana> ive been here
#4493 [22:18] <Iguana> everyday
#4494 [22:18] <Iguana> i idle here
#4495 [22:18] <xales> well, I haven't seen you join or part
#4496 [22:18] <xales> or quit
#4497 [22:18] <xales> or even talk
#4498 [22:18] <xales> so
#4499 [22:18] <nevercast> http://twitter.com/nvrcast/minecraft
#4500 [22:18] <Iguana> because i get paid to idle
#4501 [22:18] <xales> like citricsquid
#4502 [22:18] <xales> :P
#4503 [22:19] <nevercast> quote, mollstam: The 'leaked launcher' was leaked through @notch 's twitter
#4504 [22:19] <nevercast> I LOL'D
#4505 [22:19] <nevercast> Fuckin' noobs
#4506 [22:19] * xales waves to mollstam
#4506 [22:19] <xales> :>
#4507 [22:20] <Vasette> Ok my questions is, I'm running windows vista 64, and I've seen the tutorials about texture packages. But when I try to copy the files from one rar file setup to the original I get errors and it says the action can't be completed.
#4508 [22:20] <xales> Vasette: uhh...not entirely sure what you are trying to do
#4509 [22:20] <xales> but if the files are in a .RAR, extract them to a new folder
#4510 [22:20] <xales> then add them into a new zip file
#4511 [22:20] <EmpiresBane> Iggy, is there anywhere you don't idle?
#4512 [22:20] <xales> if you want, give me the link to where you found it and I can do that for you, Vasette
#4513 [22:21] <Vasette> maybe I've been looking at the wrong tutorials.
#4514 [22:21] <xales> EmpiresBane: I'm at channel max right now, and I'm an op in half of them D:
#4515 [22:21] <Iguana> no
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#4517 [22:21] <xales> 22:21:11 [espernet] -!- channels : #Risucraft @#wonton @+#%$?!@& @#insaneasylum ##VoxelHead @#mcbots #minestatus #wom #idle @#minecraftmods #minecrafter +#64pixels #bukkit #coders #c++ +#omegle @#help
#4518 [22:21] <xales> +#Lobby @#mcchatter +#obsidian @#MineCraftHelp #smp +#scraft @#minecraft
#4519 [22:21] <EmpiresBane> need food...
#4520 [22:21] * EmpiresBane is away: ravaging the pantry
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#4523 [22:24] <mrmoses> hey everybody
#4524 [22:24] <xales> hi
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#4526 [22:25] <mrmoses> i setup a classic server, and it shows up in the server list, but when i go to play on it it doesnt seem to be connecting to my server
#4527 [22:25] <mrmoses> how do i know if its connected to my server or not?
#4528 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Looks like the classic server thing is down at the moment
#4529 [22:25] <jDodson99> Is there any way to change the name of the map from "World 1" to "Castle" or something like that?
#4530 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - In single player?
#4531 [22:26] <CoLoN> what material cannot conduct from redstone dust
#4532 [22:26] <jDodson99> GreyVulpine - Yes.
#4533 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - Not at the moment, there are talks of that changing soon though
#4534 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> CoLoN - glass, water, lava.
#4535 [22:26] <jDodson99> GreyVulpine - Awh. I remember watching a Let's Play with his LP world named "Let's Play!" but maybe I just imagined that...
#4536 [22:26] <nevercast> Java be all like..
#4537 [22:26] <nevercast> UPDATE ME
#4538 [22:26] <nevercast> and I be all like
#4539 [22:27] <nevercast> FUCK YOU..
#4540 [22:27] <nevercast> Cool story
#4541 [22:27] <jDodson99> ^lololol
#4542 [22:27] <mrmoses> do you have to do anything special to make a classic server be for multiplayer?
#4543 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding?
#4544 [22:28] <EmpiresBane> I really hope that I'm poor when I move out, otherwise I'll become very fat
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#4546 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Ensure that your computer/network is allowing port 25565/TCP to reach the server
#4547 [22:28] * Zippit_ wishs he had an smp server..
#4547 [22:28] * EmpiresBane is back (gone 00:06:57)
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#4548 [22:29] <relsqui> Zippit_: you could start one?
#4549 [22:29] <Zippit_> Nope.
#4550 [22:29] <jDodson99> Another question, I'm running Mac 10.5.8 so this may be why, but when I put a texture .zip in the /texturepacks subfolder of my .minecraft folder, and I load a world, the texture pack doesn't, like... work :/
#4551 [22:29] <jDodson99> Is that a bad thing? :$
#4552 [22:29] <mrmoses> the ports are all good, but when i play, how do i know if im connected to my server?
#4553 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> jDodson99 - Depends on the texture pack
#4554 [22:30] <Zippit_> Press t
#4555 [22:30] <mrmoses> when i press t nothing happens
#4556 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> mrmoses - Try a say I'm saying stuff here on the server's console
#4557 [22:30] <Zippit_> Then you anit on a server
#4558 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> You should be able to see it on the client
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#4560 [22:31] <mrmoses> yea, its not, so why is it not connecting to my server?
#4561 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Classic is experiencing some problems at the moment
#4562 [22:31] <mrmoses> my server shows up in the list, but then when you click on the link it doesnt seem to connect
#4563 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I can't even pull up the list on my end
#4564 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Others report the same thing
#4565 [22:32] <srlocklien> Ok Xales sorry was on a server figuring out how to get added.
#4566 [22:32] <Zippit_> I wish It was possble for me to run a smp.
#4567 [22:32] <mrmoses> yea it took a long time to get the list to work for me too
#4568 [22:32] <srlocklien> xales do you have a good walkthrough for texture packs? or know of one?
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#4570 [22:33] <mrmoses> and then after that it took along time to get the game page to load, and now its loaded, but must not be connected to my server
#4571 [22:33] <xales> srlocklien: not really
#4572 [22:33] <xales> srlocklien: look on the wiki
#4573 [22:33] <bubblefish4> i would like to apolagize
#4574 [22:33] <bubblefish4> sorry i called you an idiot and was well you know
#4575 [22:34] <nevercast> Kealper
#4576 [22:34] <nevercast> Your server is lagging hard
#4577 [22:34] <nevercast> kChat and MC
#4578 [22:34] <bubblefish4> sorry...........................
#4579 [22:34] <nevercast> bubblefish4, Calm down
#4580 [22:35] <xales> ^
#4581 [22:35] <nevercast> We'd already forgotten
#4582 [22:35] <bubblefish4> okay
#4583 [22:35] <bubblefish4> thank you!
#4584 [22:35] <nevercast> you're welcome
#4585 [22:35] <nevercast> have a good day
#4586 [22:35] <bubblefish4> you too
#4587 [22:36] <bubblefish4> ummmmmmm
#4588 [22:36] <bubblefish4> one question
#4589 [22:36] <bubblefish4> anybody know a good indy game or other game worth playing?
#4590 [22:36] <xales> ?? google
#4591 [22:36] <VoxelHead> google: http://google.com/ is your friend. Do not expect us to find things for you, when you are just as capable of using Google on your own. We aren't your personal Internet guide.
#4592 [22:37] <bubblefish4> okay i meant had you guys played a good one
#4593 [22:37] <xales> I don't think that question pertains to Minecraft
#4594 [22:37] <xales> Ask somewhere else
#4595 [22:37] <nevercast> This is a minecraft help channel
#4596 [22:37] <bubblefish4> okay sorry
#4597 [22:37] <nevercast> Not a, I don't wanna play minecraft what other games are there, channel
#4598 [22:38] <bubblefish4> i am just a gamer
#4599 [22:38] <Zippit_> #gamers
#4600 [22:38] <Zippit_> xD
#4601 [22:38] <bubblefish4> it is in my nature to play!
#4602 [22:39] <xales> clearly not
#4603 [22:39] <xales> you have made no attempt to play Minecraft
#4604 [22:39] <xales> again, this is a help channel
#4605 [22:39] <Zippit_> If it was, you'd play mc
#4606 [22:39] <Checkzor> Xales!
#4607 [22:39] <xales> if you don't need help, and just want to complain, then leave.
#4608 [22:39] <bubblefish4> cya have a goo-d day!
#4609 [22:39] <Checkzor> rpmdb: write: 0x7ffced84a488, 8192: No space left on device rpmdb: temporary: write failed for page 2
#4610 [22:39] <bubblefish4> i am not complanning..............
#4611 [22:39] <bubblefish4> cya
#4612 [22:39] * xales kicked bubblefish4 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Yes, you are. Bye!)
#4613 [22:39] <EmpiresBane> wow... you guys are much better people than me
#4614 [22:39] <nevercast> xales
#4615 [22:39] <nevercast> BAN
#4616 [22:39] <nevercast> EmpiresBane, Lol!
#4617 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#4618 [22:39] <xales> nevercast: just wait, he will come back
#4619 [22:40] <nevercast> That's the point
#4620 [22:40] <nevercast> I'm a patient man
#4621 [22:40] <nevercast> but it's limited
#4622 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Easy on the kicks, he was about to leave anyways
#4623 [22:40] <xales> EmpiresBane: You missed the beginning of this
#4624 [22:40] <xales> last time he said that, it took him 5 or 6 minutes to leave
#4625 [22:40] <Checkzor> anyhow
#4626 [22:40] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Consider him at the doorway.. and xales slammed it shut behind him
#4627 [22:40] <nevercast> no harm done
#4628 [22:40] * GreyVulpine nods
#4628 [22:40] <Checkzor> xales I'm reinstalling mysql and I get this
#4629 [22:40] <xales> Checkzor: I have no idea
#4630 [22:40] <Checkzor> rpmdb: write: 0x7ffced84a488, 8192: No space left on device rpmdb: temporary: write failed for page 2
#4631 [22:40] <Checkzor> Boy does that make me feel good
#4632 [22:40] <nevercast> lol.
#4633 [22:40] <Checkzor> and your mr.centosguy
#4634 [22:40] <xales> Checkzor: I don't use RPMs/yum
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#4636 [22:41] <Checkzor> aka I'm doomed right?
#4637 [22:42] <xales> Honestly, I think switching to Debian is the best bet
#4638 [22:42] <xales> I can guide you through that with debootstrap
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#4640 [22:42] <Checkzor> I ned kealper :<
#4641 [22:42] <Checkzor> need*
#4642 [22:43] <xales> Checkzor: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html
#4643 [22:43] <mrmoses> my servers heartbeat request keeps failing, is that all because of the problems this evening?
#4644 [22:43] <xales> mrmoses: yes
#4645 [22:43] <mrmoses> dang, so i guess tonite just wasnt a good night to try and do this
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#4648 [22:45] <mrmoses> are these problems common?
#4649 [22:45] <xales> recently, yes
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#4651 [22:45] <xales> it's because of some issues with the company hosting minecraft.net
#4652 [22:45] <xales> they are looking to move it soon though, so that it will be much more stable and these problems will be something of the far past
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#4654 [22:45] <xales> Iggy
#4655 [22:45] <xales> stop fucking timing out
#4656 [22:45] <srlocklien> Xales; sincerely sorry to keep on bothering you ... I have the rar (zipped file) in the appropriate folder (.minecraft>texturepacks ) but when I open up minecraft I'm lost from there. I've read the wiki page on it etc etc.
#4657 [22:46] <nevercast> WRONG
#4658 [22:46] <nevercast> Zip != Rar :)
#4659 [22:46] <xales> srlocklien: If it doesn't show up in the texture pack list, then you didn't do it correctly
#4660 [22:46] <xales> What texturepack do you want? I can give you a link to a ZIP version
#4661 [22:46] <nevercast> ( xales, we should really teach the guy how to put it into a zip himself )
#4662 [22:46] <xales> nevercast: you do it
#4663 [22:46] <nevercast> Why me?
#4664 [22:46] <nevercast> By we, I meant you!
#4665 [22:46] <Checkzor> teach how to not fail at everything :(
#4666 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> You volunteered
#4667 [22:47] <nevercast> It was a suggestion
#4668 [22:47] * GreyVulpine pushes nevercast forward
#4668 [22:47] <nevercast> Damn it...
#4669 [22:47] * Checkzor laughs
#4669 [22:47] * nevercast mumbles..
#4669 [22:47] * xales snrks
#4669 [22:47] <nevercast> ahh hi... srlocklien
#4670 [22:47] * Checkzor pulls nevercast close to him
#4670 [22:47] <nevercast> I'm nevercast.
#4671 [22:47] <Checkzor> oh wait..
#4672 [22:47] <nevercast> Woah dude!
#4673 [22:47] * nevercast steps back from Checkzor
#4673 [22:47] <nevercast> Easy on the Jacet
#4674 [22:47] <nevercast> *Jacket
#4675 [22:47] <nevercast> it's new
#4676 [22:47] <srlocklien> O_o
#4677 [22:47] <Checkzor> my linux is broke :/
#4678 [22:48] * nevercast pats Checkzor on the back
#4678 [22:48] <xales> Checkzor: Debian. get it. love it.
#4679 [22:48] <nevercast> .... wanna know something Checkzor ?
#4680 [22:48] <srlocklien> Well then... I did a bit of research and the texture pack I was looking at is the smp realistic I believe its called
#4681 [22:48] <xales> srlocklien: where did you download it from?
#4682 [22:48] * nevercast gets really close and whispers in Checkzor's ear..
#4682 [22:48] <nevercast> "you should"
#4683 [22:48] <nevercast> .. GET DEBIAN!!
#4684 [22:48] <srlocklien> moment i'll get the link
#4685 [22:48] * Checkzor sighs
#4685 [22:48] <xales> Checkzor: it's really much, much easier
#4686 [22:48] <xales> you literally type "aptitude install mysql"
#4687 [22:49] <nevercast> Yeah my techsupport module isn't combatible with Red Hat.. I'm sorry
#4688 [22:49] <xales> you literally type "aptitude install mysql-server" rather
#4689 [22:49] <drutt7> were can i find my save folder in Ubuntu 10.10?
#4690 [22:49] <xales> then just /etc/init.d/mysql start
#4691 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> "smp realistic"? Is this a high resolution pack?
#4692 [22:49] <xales> BOOM done
#4693 [22:49] <xales> ??> drutt7 linux/.minecraft
#4694 [22:49] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Yes
#4695 [22:49] <VoxelHead> drutt7: (linux/.minecraft) ~/.minecraft
#4696 [22:49] <VoxelHead> drutt7: (linux/.minecraft) If you need more details, you should look into learning some of the basics. ~ is your home directory, usually /home/YOURNAME. So ~/.minecraft would be /home/YOURNAME/.minecraft/.
#4697 [22:49] <drutt7> oh thank you
#4698 [22:50] <srlocklien> sorry here is the link.
#4699 [22:50] <srlocklien> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=25414
#4700 [22:50] <xales> srlocklien: just click "download here" and put that in .minecraft/texturepacks
#4701 [22:50] <xales> don't extract it or anything
#4702 [22:51] <drutt7> wow that's a nice texture pack
#4703 [22:51] <srlocklien> ok moment
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#4705 [22:52] <nevercast> Does the Texture Pack fix, use a Java Agent to change the Classes at RunTime
#4706 [22:52] <nevercast> or does it overwrite them physically?
#4707 [22:53] * nevercast breaks glass wall.. Walks inside, Turns left.
#4707 [22:53] <nevercast> OH FOUND THE DOOR :D
#4708 [22:54] <drutt7> hmm Minecraft crashed when generating a level sigh
#4709 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> This pack looks.. old
#4710 [22:54] <nevercast> lol.
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#4712 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> No, even the website says it was last updated 10.30.10
#4713 [22:55] <HATRIX> hello, where is that board for mod help again?
#4714 [22:55] <HATRIX> ruskiff?
#4715 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft
#4716 [22:55] <xales> HATRIX: #risucraft is the channel
#4717 [22:55] * HATRIX [HATRIX@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#4718 [22:55] <xales> So, what should I do
#4719 [22:55] * HATRIX [HATRIX@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4720 [22:55] <HATRIX> thanks!
#4721 [22:55] <xales> I need DopeGhoti to come back to work with me on that bot =/
#4722 [22:55] <xales> unless you have any ideas, GreyVulpine ._.
#4723 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#4724 [22:56] <srlocklien> this is why i freaking hate vista ...
#4725 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> I haven't touched python at all.
#4726 [22:56] <xales> GreyVulpine: It's not Python code
#4727 [22:56] <xales> GreyVulpine: It's a function insisting something isn't there, but it is in fact, there
#4728 [22:56] <xales> https://github.com/xales/Wonton/blob/dev/irc.cpp line 109
#4729 [22:56] <srlocklien> unless I open up the folder for the minecraft textures through minecraft I can't get to my damnable appdata folder ... its not where its supposed to be ... (under users)
#4730 [22:57] <killergut> whats the command to check my internal ip in cmd
#4731 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> ipconfig
#4732 [22:57] <killergut> thanks
#4733 [22:57] <xales> ??> srlocklien win/.minecraft
#4734 [22:57] <VoxelHead> srlocklien: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#4735 [22:58] <killergut> and which ip i use
#4736 [22:58] <killergut> theres 3
#4737 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> xales - What's the error you get in the compiler?
#4738 [22:58] <xales> GreyVulpine: Runtime error
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#4740 [23:00] <xales> Python thread initializing
#4741 [23:00] <xales> ImportError: No module named ircmain
#4742 [23:00] <Zippit_> I know why :P
#4743 [23:00] <xales> why? :P
#4744 [23:01] <Zippit_> I think you need to fix your irc.py
#4745 [23:01] <nevercast> Gr
#4746 [23:01] <nevercast> Bugger it
#4747 [23:01] <xales> It works fine
#4748 [23:01] <nevercast> Minecraft Server => Laptop
#4749 [23:01] <xales> or, the standalone interpreter thinks so
#4750 [23:01] <nevercast> Minecraft Client => Desktop
#4751 [23:01] <nevercast> now I can play single player
#4752 [23:01] <xales> Zippit_: what needs fixing?
#4753 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> I couldn't begin to know where to look here, I don't know these python classes
#4754 [23:03] <xales> GreyVulpine: That application thinks it doesn't exist, but the standalone interpreter runs it fine
#4755 [23:04] <mrmoses> what do you have to do on a classic server to make it multiplayer?
#4756 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#4757 [23:04] <xales> >>> import ircmain
#4758 [23:04] <xales> >>> ircmain.hello()
#4759 [23:04] <xales> Hello
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#4761 [23:05] <nevercast> lol
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#4763 [23:05] <nevercast> WTF
#4764 [23:05] <nevercast> I set spawn-monsters=false
#4765 [23:05] <nevercast> and there is monsters?
#4766 [23:07] <nevercast> help pl0x?
#4767 [23:07] <xales> did you restart the server? :P
#4768 [23:07] <nevercast> The server wasn't started when I set the properties :P
#4769 [23:08] <xales> mods?
#4770 [23:08] <nevercast> noen
#4771 [23:08] <nevercast> *none
#4772 [23:08] <mrmoses> ok, i connected to my server using ?ip=..., but it kicked me off
#4773 [23:08] <xales> did you remember to...save the properties? :P
#4774 [23:08] <xales> mrmoses: 'kicked me off'?
#4775 [23:08] <nevercast> Haha yes the file is saved..
#4776 [23:08] <mrmoses> the name wasn't verified by minecraft.net
#4777 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> You don't use ?ip....
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#4779 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> You need to use the URL provided in the server's console when you started it
#4780 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Or in externalURL.txt
#4781 [23:09] <mrmoses> that was just loading the normal single player
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#4783 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Are you logged into minecraft.net?
#4784 [23:09] <mrmoses> yep
#4785 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Cookies enabled on the browser?
#4786 [23:10] <mrmoses> i dont have a externalURL.txt either
#4787 [23:10] <mrmoses> yep, i connected to other servers
#4788 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> And you're still logged into minecraft.net when you entered the URL
#4789 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#4790 [23:10] <mrmoses> and i added my name to my players.txt and admin.txt
#4791 [23:10] <nevercast> xales, Does the server allow me to check properties from console?
#4792 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> ...
#4793 [23:10] <Kaya> argh
#4794 [23:10] <Kaya> iron is so hard to find!!
#4795 [23:10] <xales> nevercast: Don't think so
#4796 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Those aren't normal files, classic doesn't create players/admin.txt
#4797 [23:10] <nevercast> Kaya, It's underground
#4798 [23:11] <Kaya> i know
#4799 [23:11] <Kaya> im digging a tunnel
#4800 [23:11] <nevercast> xales, console for this game sucks :P
#4801 [23:11] <Kaya> i want iron for a minecart
#4802 [23:11] <xales> nevercast: pretty much
#4803 [23:11] <nevercast> Dig down
#4804 [23:11] <Kaya> and minecaft tracks, but
#4805 [23:11] <nevercast> until you find a cave, Kaya.
#4806 [23:11] <Kaya> a cave?
#4807 [23:11] <Kaya> why a cave?
#4808 [23:11] <nevercast> Caves yeah
#4809 [23:11] <nevercast> because ore is often in the walls of the caves
#4810 [23:11] <mrmoses> i downloaded from minecraft.net/minecraft_server.zip
#4811 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> mrmoses - Are you using the multiplayer server files that you downloaded from http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#4812 [23:12] <srlocklien> ok ... again apologies about the length of time. I couldn't freaking find my appdata folder to put the file into. I've found it finally.
#4813 [23:12] <mrmoses> yep
#4814 [23:12] <srlocklien> I have the texture pack in the right file finally. Now when I go to load it, it recognizes it ... but its greyed out.
#4815 [23:12] <nevercast> Fuck
#4816 [23:12] <nevercast> Creeper!
#4817 [23:12] <xales> srlocklien: No idea about that, I don't use texture packs. GV?
#4818 [23:13] <Kaya> i couldnt find any caves but, im creating a mining tunnel
#4819 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> xales, it's most likely an old pack, and a 32x32 pack at that
#4820 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> last updated was from 10.30.10
#4821 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> From the website
#4822 [23:13] <Kaya> I can't seem to find any iron ores around even though i am approximately 8 rocks above bedrock
#4823 [23:13] <srlocklien> are you talking about my texture package GV?
#4824 [23:13] <Kaya> i did however, find a diamond deposit of 6
#4825 [23:13] <Kaya> =D
#4826 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes srlocklien
#4827 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> mrmoses - Are you starting the server with start server.bat?
#4828 [23:14] <srlocklien> so ultimately its probably out of date and useless?
#4829 [23:14] <mrmoses> its a linux server, im using the command thats in the readme.txt
#4830 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much srlocklien, I believe there was talk of an update at the end of the forum thread, but I don't know how much of it was updated
#4831 [23:14] <mrmoses> java -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer
#4832 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> mrmoses - That.. worked?
#4833 [23:15] <mrmoses> yea, and it created admins.txt and players.txt
#4834 [23:15] <mrmoses> as well as banned.txt and banned-ip.txt
#4835 [23:17] <mrmoses> my server gets listed on the servers page
#4836 [23:18] <Zippit_> Xales
#4837 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, guess they changed around the software a bit then
#4838 [23:18] <xales> ?
#4839 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Been a few months since I've last helped set up a classic server
#4840 [23:18] <Zippit_> Could you post the code into pastebin?
#4841 [23:19] <xales> what code?
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#4843 [23:19] <Lampshade> Hello
#4844 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#4845 [23:19] <Zippit_> The python code you were having troble with
#4846 [23:20] <xales> It's not the Python code that's the problem
#4847 [23:20] <xales> the file it's trying to load is literally just
#4848 [23:20] <xales> def hello():
#4849 [23:20] <xales> print("Hello");
#4850 [23:20] <Zippit_> What lang is it?
#4851 [23:20] <Zippit_> Language*
#4852 [23:22] <mrmoses> i was able to connect to my server if i set verify_names to false
#4853 [23:22] <xales> Zippit_: What language is what?
#4854 [23:22] <Zippit_> Don't worry..
#4855 [23:24] <xales> Zippit_: https://github.com/xales/Wonton/blob/dev/irc.cpp line 109
#4856 [23:24] <xales> It's following the first code path
#4857 [23:25] <Lampshade> What's wrong with the Servers?
#4858 [23:25] <xales> Lampshade: What servers?
#4859 [23:25] <Lampshade> All of Them?
#4860 [23:25] <Lampshade> Oh, wait is this that sarcasm thing?
#4861 [23:25] <xales> what?
#4862 [23:26] <Lampshade> Nothing
#4863 [23:26] <xales> Classic servers aren't working properly because minecraft.net is having issues agin
#4864 [23:26] <xales> again*
#4865 [23:26] <Lampshade> Thought so
#4866 [23:26] <Lampshade> What's going on with it? Hasn't it already Migrated?
#4867 [23:27] <Kaya> OH MY GOD I HATE LAVA
#4868 [23:27] <Kaya> IVE LIKE DIED TWICE OF THE FIRE.
#4869 [23:27] <xales> Lampshade: Not yet
#4870 [23:27] <Lampshade> Oh
#4871 [23:27] <drutt7> lol....
#4872 [23:27] <Lampshade> Then I've been duped into thinking they have
#4873 [23:28] <Lampshade> Migrated!
#4874 [23:28] <Lampshade> By Notch
#4875 [23:28] <Lampshade> Kind of led me on
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#4877 [23:29] <Fable> hello
#4878 [23:29] <Fable> question
#4879 [23:29] <Fable> if ur in a queue, do you have to go back to title screen and retry to get in?
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#4881 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> A queue... for what?
#4882 [23:30] <Checkzor> anyone got a gun I can use
#4883 [23:30] <AG_Clinton> I do.
#4884 [23:30] <Fable> for a server
#4885 [23:30] <Checkzor> I'm going to shoot the server, then shoot the guy that made centos then shoot myself :/
#4886 [23:30] <Checkzor> oh and shoot the mysql team
#4887 [23:30] <Fable> after u shot urself?
#4888 [23:31] <Checkzor> YES
#4889 [23:31] <Fable> might want to reorganize your list
#4890 [23:31] <Checkzor> Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon. Starting MySQL: [FAILED]
#4891 [23:31] <Checkzor> it it it won't go away...
#4892 [23:31] <Checkzor> ever
#4893 [23:31] <Checkzor> :(
#4894 [23:31] <GLaDOS> Dont shoot the centos dev team! D:
#4895 [23:31] <xales> Yes, shoot them
#4896 [23:31] <GLaDOS> brb alerting them of a crazed gunman
#4897 [23:31] <xales> CentOS is fucking retarded
#4898 [23:32] <Fable> yo?
#4899 [23:32] <Fable> so queues?
#4900 [23:32] <xales> No idea, that's a mod, and we don't support anything beyond the core game/official stuff
#4901 [23:33] <Checkzor> arghh
#4902 [23:33] <Fable> queues aren't part of the core game?
#4903 [23:33] <Fable> cuz that's server side?
#4904 [23:33] <xales> Queues are a mod
#4905 [23:33] <Fable> ah
#4906 [23:33] <xales> the server doesn't support queuing without use of mods
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#4908 [23:34] <Fable> damn, wonder how to handle it myself then
#4909 [23:38] <srlocklien> Checkzor you still around...
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#4911 [23:38] <Kaya> found a cave
#4912 [23:39] <Kaya> but it sucks
#4913 [23:39] <Kaya> lava is so absolutely annoying, and random stuff keeps shooting arrows at me.
#4914 [23:39] <mermi> Should i get Minecraft ?? cause im going to be traveling ALOT so do you need internet for it?
#4915 [23:39] <Kaya> nah
#4916 [23:39] <Kaya> you could download it
#4917 [23:39] <xales> mermi: only to get updates
#4918 [23:39] <Kaya> and then theres the play it offline function
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#4920 [23:39] <mermi> So i can save and all of that?
#4921 [23:39] <Kaya> or if you wanna play multiplayer
#4922 [23:40] <mermi> Oh okay :D! thanks cause im going to be on a airplane for like 13 hours.. D:!
#4923 [23:41] <collinqt> need help with multiplayer server if anyone can help: i've been running a server for a week now with friends and everything was saving just fine, having so much fun. today i downloaded a texture pack which made my minecraft crash and eventually had to take it off and restart comp when i restarted i could not start the server up again, i put in my router's IP
#4924 [23:41] <collinqt> and doing so made a new server come up
#4925 [23:41] <collinqt> Any reason why this did that, any way i can get my old server back?
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#4927 [23:42] <xales> Define "put in my router's ip"
#4928 [23:42] <collinqt> well
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#4930 [23:42] <mib_2hnjuh> Waait! should i buy it or just use the beta ?
#4931 [23:42] <Checkzor> this error
#4932 [23:42] <collinqt> my old IP for the server for some reason wasnt my routers IP, it was 68.96.198.123
#4933 [23:42] <Checkzor> will be the bane of my existance
#4934 [23:42] <collinqt> while my router's IP was 192.168.1.1
#4935 [23:43] <xales> mib_2hnjuh: The beta is what you get when you buy it
#4936 [23:43] <xales> collinqt: where did you put the IP?
#4937 [23:43] <collinqt> when i try using the 68 IP it doesnt work it says unable to port
#4938 [23:43] <xales> if you put an IP in server.properties, it will not work
#4939 [23:43] <xales> there should not be an IP in there
#4940 [23:43] <mib_2hnjuh> ?? But i can download the beta now though?
#4941 [23:43] <collinqt> there was
#4942 [23:43] <xales> mib_2hnjuh: you can download the program that lets you download the game after logging in
#4943 [23:44] <xales> mib_2hnjuh: you need a premium account to play it
#4944 [23:44] <xales> mib_2hnjuh: you get that by buying it
#4945 [23:44] <mib_2hnjuh> Ohhh okay thanks alot man!
#4946 [23:44] <collinqt> when i take the IP out
#4947 [23:44] <collinqt> it goes back to my new map
#4948 [23:44] <collinqt> and not my old server
#4949 [23:44] <collinqt> how can i get it back to my old server?
#4950 [23:45] <xales> if you deleted the map folder or put the .exe in a new folder, then it will not use the same world
#4951 [23:45] <collinqt> i didnt do anything to it
#4952 [23:45] <xales> the map is saved in the 'world' folder. If it got moved or somehow deleted, you need to put it back
#4953 [23:46] <collinqt> ok, where would i go and find the folder and which folder would i put it in?
#4954 [23:46] <collinqt> could you help me with that?
#4955 [23:46] <xales> I don't know what you would have done with it
#4956 [23:46] <xales> How are you starting the server?
#4957 [23:46] <xales> are you double-clicking the EXE file?
#4958 [23:46] <collinqt> yes
#4959 [23:46] <collinqt> or the jar one
#4960 [23:46] <xales> Did you change the line "world=" in server.properties?
#4961 [23:46] <collinqt> both sends me to the same new server
#4962 [23:46] <collinqt> its that
#4963 [23:47] <collinqt> wait
#4964 [23:47] <collinqt> there is no world=
#4965 [23:47] <xales> Is the exe in the same folder it was previously?
#4966 [23:48] <collinqt> yes
#4967 [23:48] <collinqt> nothing has moved
#4968 [23:48] <collinqt> although
#4969 [23:48] <collinqt> my friend
#4970 [23:48] <collinqt> told me to do something in the command prompt
#4971 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> xales meant "level-name"
#4972 [23:48] <collinqt> to clear my cache for internet
#4973 [23:48] <xales> GreyVulpine: It's world= for beta
#4974 [23:48] <collinqt> oh
#4975 [23:48] <collinqt> lvl name
#4976 [23:48] <collinqt> level-name=
#4977 [23:48] <xales> collinqt: what specifically did you do?
#4978 [23:48] <collinqt> it says level-name=world
#4979 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> it's still level-name for beta
#4980 [23:49] <xales> GreyVulpine: oh, meh >.>
#4981 [23:49] <collinqt> ipconfig /flushdns
#4982 [23:49] <collinqt> thats what i did
#4983 [23:49] <collinqt> did that clear my thing?
#4984 [23:49] <xales> that wouldn't do anything to the server then
#4985 [23:50] <Kaya> caves are...
#4986 [23:50] <Kaya> annoying -,-
#4987 [23:50] <xales> if it generated a new world, then the world wasn't correctly saved or it was deleted or moved
#4988 [23:50] <collinqt> well i coppied and pasted to back up my world folder
#4989 [23:50] <collinqt> before i downloaded the texture pack
#4990 [23:50] <xales> your client world folder, or the server world folder
#4991 [23:50] <xales> they are not the same
#4992 [23:51] <collinqt> i went into saves
#4993 [23:51] <collinqt> and did that
#4994 [23:51] <collinqt> lemme see one sec
#4995 [23:51] <collinqt> the client
#4996 [23:51] <xales> What folder is the minecraft_server.exe in?
#4997 [23:52] <collinqt> its actually on my second Hard drive
#4998 [23:52] <xales> ok...where?
#4999 [23:52] <collinqt> nowhere
#5000 [23:52] <collinqt> not in a folder
#5001 [23:52] <xales> is there a folder named "world" on that harddrive?
#5002 [23:52] <collinqt> Yes
#5003 [23:52] <xales> did you do anything to it at any point
#5004 [23:52] <collinqt> i also pasted the client save
#5005 [23:52] <collinqt> into it 2
#5006 [23:53] <collinqt> so theres
#5007 [23:53] <collinqt> world 1
#5008 [23:53] <collinqt> and world
#5009 [23:53] * xales points at his question
#5009 [23:53] <collinqt> no sorry
#5010 [23:53] <collinqt> did nothing
#5011 [23:54] <collinqt> Should i delete the world1?
#5012 [23:54] <collinqt> and just keep the world/
#5013 [23:55] <collinqt> Still there xales? :)
#5014 [23:57] <xales> sorry
#5015 [23:57] <xales> yeah
#5016 [23:57] <collinqt> wait
#5017 [23:57] <xales> copy the world1 somewhere else, just incase
#5018 [23:57] <collinqt> i see a world in my recycling bin
#5019 [23:58] <collinqt> that was created on the same day i started that server
#5020 [23:58] <collinqt> should i restore it and move it back onto my HD?
#5021 [23:58] <xales> yes
#5022 [23:58] <xales> backup the existing one first
#5023 [23:58] <collinqt> yea