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#3 [00:03] <n0valpk> can anyone help me with minecraft
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#5 [00:04] <aetherian> no
#6 [00:04] <aetherian> no one. at all.
#7 [00:04] <aetherian> what did you need help with?
#8 [00:04] <n0valpk> minecraft wont open at all anymore
#9 [00:04] <aetherian> reinstall it
#10 [00:05] <aetherian> are you on windows?
#11 [00:05] <RedUnix> delete bin
#12 [00:05] <aetherian> ??> n0valpk win/reinstall
#13 [00:05] <RedUnix> go to start and click run
#14 [00:05] <aetherian> o.o
#15 [00:05] <n0valpk> cant login on site, sayings to many login attempts but i havent even tried to login
#16 [00:05] <RedUnix> then enter %appdata%
#17 [00:05] <RedUnix> then go to .minecraft
#18 [00:05] <aetherian> ??> n0valpk win/reinst
#19 [00:05] <VoxelHead> n0valpk: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#20 [00:05] <VoxelHead> n0valpk: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#21 [00:05] <RedUnix> then delete bin
#22 [00:05] <aetherian> :D
#23 [00:06] <RedUnix> wow
#24 [00:06] <RedUnix> jinks
#25 [00:06] <Wintermute941> Are patches being installed... Minecraft will not open on either of my computers. Was last on about 4 hours ago.
#26 [00:06] <xales> Wintermute941: "will not open"?
#27 [00:07] <n0valpk> did work..
#28 [00:07] <n0valpk> didnt*
#29 [00:07] <n0valpk> javaw opens in task
#30 [00:07] <n0valpk> but mc doesn't open
#31 [00:07] <aetherian> xales: shhh, we're luring him into a false sense of security with generic advice so that later when he feels safe we can mug him and take his money
#32 [00:08] <aetherian> :)
#33 [00:08] <xales> ._.
#34 [00:08] <aetherian> NaCl
#35 [00:08] <Wintermute941> I get a message saying to many log in from the browser... and the .exe won't long on either.
#36 [00:08] <xales> n0valpk: have you tried restarting the computer?
#37 [00:08] <xales> Wintermute941: just wait a bit
#38 [00:08] <Wintermute941> 'kk
#39 [00:08] <n0valpk> yes i have
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#41 [00:08] <xales> n0valpk: has it ever worked?
#42 [00:08] <n0valpk> yea
#43 [00:08] <n0valpk> i was just on
#44 [00:09] <xales> did you delete the 'bin' folder?
#45 [00:09] <n0valpk> i was trying to find ways to reduce lag
#46 [00:09] <n0valpk> yea i did
#47 [00:09] <relsqui> I've been getting this error on and off all day
#48 [00:09] <n0valpk> mc wont even open alltogether
#49 [00:09] <relsqui> I just retry until it works
#50 [00:09] <aetherian> will it pull up a UI, nova?
#51 [00:09] <n0valpk> nothing happens
#52 [00:09] <n0valpk> at all
#53 [00:10] <n0valpk> just javaw opens in task thats all
#54 [00:10] <xales> n0valpk: what did you do to try to 'reduce lag'?
#55 [00:10] <aetherian> uh oh
#56 [00:10] <n0valpk> some memory thing
#57 [00:10] <n0valpk> xxms
#58 [00:10] <n0valpk> or something
#59 [00:10] <xales> uhh
#60 [00:11] <aetherian> uhhh
#61 [00:11] <xales> how are you opening it?
#62 [00:11] <Wintermute941> I'll be back I'm going to restart my laptop...
#63 [00:11] <n0valpk> clicking lol.
#64 [00:11] <aetherian> windows, right?
#65 [00:11] <relsqui> what was that server list that gets recommended in here periodically?
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#67 [00:12] <n0valpk> yea windows
#68 [00:12] <n0valpk> vista
#69 [00:12] <xales> n0valpk: what are you clicking on?
#70 [00:12] <n0valpk> minecraft.exe
#71 [00:13] <aetherian> phew
#72 [00:14] <aetherian> is your computer late enough for mc?
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#75 [00:14] <n0valpk> hmm
#76 [00:15] <n0valpk> when i go into bin and try running that jar
#77 [00:15] <shutthe> sup
#78 [00:15] <n0valpk> file is invalid or corrupt
#79 [00:15] <aetherian> don't run that jar >.>
#80 [00:15] <aetherian> you did delete the bin already, right?
#81 [00:15] <xales> n0valpk: you should have deleted it >.>
#82 [00:16] <shutthe> i cant see anyone online and i keep losing connection
#83 [00:16] * aetherian facepalms
#83 [00:16] <aetherian> what server, shut
#84 [00:17] <shutthe> mc731.servercraft.co:6449
#85 [00:17] <shutthe> i kno theres others on for a fact...my shit juss duznt seem to wanna work
#86 [00:17] <aetherian> o.o
#87 [00:18] <aetherian> first, get sober.
#88 [00:18] <shutthe> no deal
#89 [00:18] * aetherian waves by to shutthe
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#91 [00:19] <the_late_man> ...ow
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#93 [00:26] <aetherian> ??!!!
#94 [00:26] <aetherian> ooh, I gotta try something
#95 [00:26] <aetherian> ?? !
#96 [00:26] <aetherian> aww
#97 [00:26] <aetherian> oh yay
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#100 [00:31] <aetherian> grey!
#101 [00:31] <aetherian> we're losing him D:
#102 [00:34] <Arkose> ummmk
#103 [00:35] <aetherian> what?
#104 [00:35] * lemon-rev wonders on notch site, what beds will do and if you sleep though the night lol
#104 [00:35] <Kealper> lemon-rev: want me to spew unconfirmed info?
#105 [00:36] <lemon-rev> hm, up to you, i was just wondering
#106 [00:36] <lemon-rev> they said its in next updaid
#107 [00:36] <lemon-rev> date
#108 [00:36] <Kealper> <UNCONFIRMED>beds will let you sleep the night off, beds will act as your new spawn point</UNCONFIRMED>
#109 [00:36] <lemon-rev> lol
#110 [00:36] <aetherian> OP much?
#111 [00:36] <lemon-rev> sweet
#112 [00:36] <Kealper> op?
#113 [00:37] <aetherian> overpowered
#114 [00:37] <Kealper> OH.....that meaning
#115 [00:37] <aetherian> original poster much?
#116 [00:37] <relsqui> the "sleeping the night off" bit can't possibly work in multi, though, can it?
#117 [00:37] <Kealper> probably not
#118 [00:37] <relsqui> I mean, it doesn't make sense
#119 [00:38] <Kealper> i would assume that's why it possibly lets you use it as your personal spawn point...for multi
#120 [00:38] <Kealper> but again, these are unconfirmed, and i can't confirm them until tomorrow, when the workday starts in Sweden :P
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#125 [00:42] <Arkose> heh
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#127 [00:43] <aetherian> greybot!
#128 [00:43] <aetherian> you came back!
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#130 [00:54] <CoLoN> can someone help me add a 3rd switch to a 2 switch 2door system
#131 [00:54] <xales> Kealper can!
#132 [00:54] <CoLoN> he never wants to
#133 [00:55] <CoLoN> i gave up on him
#134 [00:55] <Kealper> lolwut
#135 [00:55] <Kealper> is it in a multiplayer server? or single?
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#137 [00:56] <CoLoN> multi
#138 [00:56] <CoLoN> 97.81.101.85
#139 [00:56] <RedUnix> Hey does someone want to test this server out?
#140 [00:56] <RedUnix> 5.224.113.80
#141 [00:56] <xales> uh, Hamachi?
#142 [00:56] <Kealper> RedUnix: that's a hamachi IP
#143 [00:56] <RedUnix> do u need hamachi?
#144 [00:56] <CoLoN> lol
#145 [00:57] <xales> yes
#146 [00:57] <RedUnix> k well it would bind to my external ip
#147 [00:57] <xales> anyone else would need Hamachi
#148 [00:57] <xales> ?? fubar/hamachi
#149 [00:57] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#150 [00:57] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#151 [00:57] <RedUnix> k
#152 [00:58] <RedUnix> i can host a server on hamachi, and my interal ip but not my external
#153 [00:58] <xales> why not external?
#154 [00:59] <RedUnix> idk
#155 [00:59] <xales> did you port forward? >.>
#156 [00:59] <RedUnix> it keeps saying failed to bind to port
#157 [00:59] <RedUnix> yeh
#158 [00:59] <xales> ._.
#159 [00:59] <xales> as I said before
#160 [00:59] <xales> you cannot put an IP in server.properties
#161 [00:59] <xales> it does not work
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#163 [01:00] <tntexplosivesltd> hi
#164 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#165 [01:00] <RedUnix> k
#166 [01:00] <tntexplosivesltd> Does anyone here know much about classic?
#167 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#168 [01:01] <tntexplosivesltd> How the very high framerate is achieved
#169 [01:01] <RedUnix> OMG THANK YOU
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#171 [01:01] <tntexplosivesltd> What culling is done?
#172 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#173 [01:02] <tntexplosivesltd> What is done to make the framerate so high?
#174 [01:02] <tntexplosivesltd> What optimising?
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#176 [01:02] <Arkose> you're meaning compared to alpha/beta?
#177 [01:02] <Arkose> it's a much simpler game, so less going on as a result.
#178 [01:02] <tntexplosivesltd> I mean, at an OpenGL level
#179 [01:03] <Arkose> well, for starters, Minecraft doesn't store blocks as 3D objects IIRC
#180 [01:03] <TheBix> so guys
#181 [01:03] <TheBix> whens 1.3?
#182 [01:03] <Arkose> it stores them as tabled data and then interprets that into 3D space, or something
#183 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> TheBix - Tuesday
#184 [01:03] <TheBix> really?
#185 [01:03] <Arkose> this coming week, maaaybe
#186 [01:03] <TheBix> thats tomorow!
#187 [01:03] <tntexplosivesltd> Yeah, that part is obvious
#188 [01:03] <Arkose> "we’re aiming at releasing sometime early/mid-week next week"
#189 [01:04] <TheBix> was that last week?
#190 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#191 [01:04] <TheBix> cool
#192 [01:04] <Arkose> "We’re hoping to be able to make the beds feature complete before GDC, but it’s more important to get the 1.3 update out, so some of the functionality might be missing for a week or two."
#193 [01:04] <TheBix> in my area its 5PM monday BTW
#194 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Then wednesday for you
#195 [01:04] <Arkose> an Aussie!
#196 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> :)
#197 [01:05] <Arkose> just like Patch Tuesday. Patch Wednesday. D:
#198 [01:05] <tntexplosivesltd> Never mind
#199 [01:05] <Arkose> everyone else being behind ruins everything
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#201 [01:05] <TheBix> I only care about 1.3 since its been quite a while since the last update
#202 [01:05] <TheBix> notch has been too busy ignoring his responsibility
#203 [01:05] <Arkose> well, it sounds like there's at least one patch in the near future :)
#204 [01:06] <Arkose> it's not like Minecraft has a set release date.
#205 [01:06] <Arkose> he might do the whole Google thing :D
#206 [01:06] <TheBix> whats the google thing?
#207 [01:06] <Arkose> staying in beta indefinitely
#208 [01:06] <Arkose> like how Gmail only left beta, er, a year or two ago?
#209 [01:06] <Arkose> or something like that
#210 [01:06] <TheBix> IMHO notch needs to actually start a god damned company already. A real company, not an "indie" one
#211 [01:06] <Arkose> ...it doesn't work that way really.
#212 [01:07] <Arkose> the huge companies you see now like Activision and Microsoft and such?
#213 [01:07] <Arkose> all of them started as a couple of dudes in a low-rent office.
#214 [01:07] <TheBix> No crap
#215 [01:07] <TheBix> but you see, notch doesn't want to expand
#216 [01:07] <Arkose> and Notch's huge profits from Minecraft wouldn't go far to suddenly become a big company
#217 [01:07] <TheBix> or it least it seems like he doesn't
#218 [01:07] <Arkose> "indie cred" is worth a lot
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#220 [01:07] <Arkose> and if people buy your game because you're indie, well, that's a win
#221 [01:08] <TheBix> Arkose: I'm not naive enough to believe what you though I did
#222 [01:08] <Arkose> anything's possible on IRC ;)
#223 [01:08] <TheBix> I'm just saying he should START a company. Not instantly become one.
#224 [01:08] <Arkose> well, he's trying. Sort of.
#225 [01:08] <Arkose> clearly wants to keep the "dude with keyboard in basement" mentality for as long as possible though
#226 [01:09] <TheBix> lol
#227 [01:09] <TheBix> ikr
#228 [01:10] <TheBix> soooo
#229 [01:10] <Morokai> but hasn't he made millions off of it by himself?
#230 [01:10] <TheBix> does anyone know about this encrypted logins thing?
#231 [01:10] <Morokai> millions is pretty good for a dude in a basemen
#232 [01:11] <aetherian> meh. night guys, I may be back later tonight.
#233 [01:11] <Morokai> if I was doing that I would probably stay in the basement xD
#234 [01:11] <Arkose> byes :)
#235 [01:11] <Morokai> if I had one anyways, base,ments dont work well in florida
#236 [01:11] <TheBix> Morokai: only because of his ideas, defs not his programming
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#238 [01:11] <TheBix> which is why he should hire more people
#239 [01:11] <Morokai> oh
#240 [01:11] <Arkose> C++ rewrite time eh? ;)
#241 [01:11] <Arkose> although the new save format might be interesting
#242 [01:12] <TheBix> assembly rewrite time!
#243 [01:14] <TheBix> or atleast if he were to be writing in C++, he should write time critical functions in assembly. Since the big 3 OS all use x86 CPUs now, re writing it for different platforms shouldn't be a problem
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#246 [01:18] <TheBix> oi guys
#247 [01:18] <TheKing> so How do I find a server or IP? for multiplayer?
#248 [01:18] <TheBix> is there a new repeater block or something?
#249 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes bix
#250 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Youtube it
#251 [01:18] <TheBix> TheKing: people post them on websites
#252 [01:18] <TheBix> some have domain names
#253 [01:19] <TheBix> its official?
#254 [01:19] <TheBix> waaiiiiit
#255 [01:19] <TheBix> can u config it to have no delay?
#256 [01:19] <xales> ??> TheKing smp/servers
#257 [01:19] <Arkose> unknown
#258 [01:19] <TheBix> if so, epic epic win
#259 [01:19] <VoxelHead> TheKing: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#260 [01:19] <VoxelHead> TheKing: (smp/servers) You can also ask in #SMP; there are often server admins there looking for new players.
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#262 [01:21] <TheBix> laaaaaame
#263 [01:22] <TheBix> the new repeater block cannot have 0 delay. which means I can't make my minecraft music machine
#264 [01:22] <xales> where do you see that
#265 [01:23] <Arkose> we don't know anything about it yet other than that it exists, AFAIK
#266 [01:24] <TheBix> wait
#267 [01:25] <TheBix> Arkose: there is a youtube vid which says a lot about it
#268 [01:25] <Arkose> ah, OK
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#270 [01:28] <XaoMoaX> How do I uninstall a mod like Mo' Creatures?
#271 [01:28] <TheBix> XaoMoaX: you could re install minecraft. (delete appdata)
#272 [01:29] <TheBix> actually no
#273 [01:29] <Arkose> if you installed it through the mod loader, use its restore backup feature thing
#274 [01:29] <XaoMoaX> I did it manually. although I did install modloader too
#275 [01:29] <TheBix> delete the bin path in minecrafts folder in appdata
#276 [01:29] <TheBix> lol don't delete appdata :P
#277 [01:30] <XaoMoaX> So what...who do I listen to on this? I dug mo creatures for awhile, but I just wanna get bck to normal minecraft. I prefer textures to mods
#278 [01:30] <xales> ??> XaoMoaX win/reinst
#279 [01:30] <VoxelHead> XaoMoaX: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#280 [01:30] <VoxelHead> XaoMoaX: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#281 [01:30] <xales> that goes back to normal
#282 [01:32] <XaoMoaX> Ah, kk. It basically recreates a vanilla/bin?
#283 [01:32] <Arkose> yep
#284 [01:32] <XaoMoaX> kk. Should I delete modloader.txt too?
#285 [01:32] <Kealper> well....that was interesting to do at 1am
#286 [01:33] <xales> yes
#287 [01:33] <Limitless285> Whats the general cause for a black screen after login on a mac?
#288 [01:34] <xales> Limitless285: what kind of Mac?
#289 [01:34] <xales> and what version of Mac OS X?
#290 [01:35] <Limitless285> Not sure. Trying to help someone out on the forums...
#291 [01:35] <Limitless285> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=187031
#292 [01:35] <Limitless285> Wish I knew macs better
#293 [01:36] <xales> oh
#294 [01:36] <xales> probably an ancient Mac or an old version of OS X
#295 [01:36] <Limitless285> Yeah ill ask him
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#297 [01:40] <XaoMoaX> yaay, it worked
#298 [01:40] <XaoMoaX> back to normal minecraft
#299 [01:40] <XaoMoaX> thank you
#300 [01:40] <xales> mhmm
#301 [01:40] <Limitless285> dang its late.
#302 [01:41] <Limitless285> cya
#303 [01:41] <Limitless285> oh and the mac is osx 10.5.8 is that ancient? Im not familiar
#304 [01:43] <Arkose> that's the second-newest one, Leopard. Still recent and supported.
#305 [01:44] <Limitless285> Alright thanks well hopefully someone can help him out, i gotta go
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#311 [01:53] <aetherian> wheee
#312 [01:54] <xales> whooo
#313 [01:55] <aetherian> whaaa
#314 [01:55] <aetherian> hmm, good book
#315 [01:55] <aetherian> very good book
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#318 [01:59] <Eman> Uh, could someone here help me with hosting?
#319 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> What about hosting?
#320 [02:00] <Eman> I host a server for myself and two friends. If I host with monsters turned on, the server lags terribly, if I host with monsters off, there's no lag
#321 [02:00] <Eman> is this an unavoidable fact?
#322 [02:00] <Kealper> Eman: system specs?
#323 [02:00] <aetherian> how much ram is hosting the server?
#324 [02:01] <Kealper> are you playing on the same computer that you are hosting on?
#325 [02:01] <Eman> 1gig is assigned to hosting
#326 [02:01] <Eman> I was, then my friend tried to host off of his laptop, and he also lags
#327 [02:01] <Kealper> and how much ram does said computer have in total?
#328 [02:01] <Eman> my computer has 4 gigs, I'm guessing his laptop has 2 gigs
#329 [02:01] <aetherian> hmm
#330 [02:01] <Kealper> and a laptop is not ideal for a minecraft server, they are quite resourc-intensive
#331 [02:01] <Eman> one thing to note
#332 [02:01] <Kealper> resource*
#333 [02:02] <aetherian> my server doesn't lag with 4gig computer and monsters...
#334 [02:02] <Eman> I had played with just one friend for a while, over lan, and it didn't lag at all
#335 [02:02] <aetherian> doesn't lag much, anyway
#336 [02:02] <Eman> but the moment my friend joined - through the internet - it started lagging intensely
#337 [02:02] <aetherian> then it is likely to do with your internet?
#338 [02:02] <Kealper> Eman: http://speedtest.net paste results url in here at end of test
#339 [02:02] <Kealper> it'll give you a link to a png image
#340 [02:04] <Eman> My download is 4mbs, and my upload is 0.5mbs
#341 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> .5 megabits?
#342 [02:04] <Eman> Yeh, 50kb/s
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#344 [02:05] <Kealper> ehh
#345 [02:05] <Kealper> that's.....
#346 [02:05] <Eman> While my upload may seem minor in comparison to my download, I am still able to host almost any game quite comfortably
#347 [02:05] <Kealper> really slow...for a minecraft server, and how much data it has to push to clients :/
#348 [02:05] <Eman> is this game incredibly upload intensive?
#349 [02:05] <Kealper> yes
#350 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Eman - Moreso than other games, yes
#351 [02:06] <Eman> is that something that's a known issue, or is it something that cannot be helped?
#352 [02:06] <Kealper> it's got to constantly update all players with the map changes that happen around them, and if someone has their view distance set to far, the server has to keep them updated on over 5,400 individual chunks...and that is just one person
#353 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> I can say that you're not the only one that experiences this issue with their server, but unfortunately, there's no workaround as of right now.
#354 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> You'll have to wait for an update to the server for that
#355 [02:07] <Eman> So their view distance settings influence the server's network load?
#356 [02:07] <xales> only marginally
#357 [02:08] <xales> there is no real way around it
#358 [02:08] <xales> I can't really see any way to get it to work well on a connection of that speed
#359 [02:08] <Eman> But why is there only this lag when I enable monsters?
#360 [02:09] <xales> It's probably CPU related, or it's just sending more data to the clients possibly
#361 [02:09] <Kealper> because the server then has to keep all clients informed where all monsters are in those loaded chunks at all times :/
#362 [02:09] <Eman> I have animals enabled, and it's the same world - there is just a considerable spike when I have the monsters enabled
#363 [02:09] <Eman> are more monsters spawned than animals?
#364 [02:09] <Kealper> yes
#365 [02:10] <Eman> How much upload does one player require?
#366 [02:10] <Eman> because keep in mind - I was hosting for just one person externally
#367 [02:10] <Eman> are you trying to say that one person uses more than 50kb/s of data?
#368 [02:10] <Kealper> it can spike to over 100KB/s when they first get the map data
#369 [02:11] <Kealper> average digging is probably around 10KB/s
#370 [02:11] <Kealper> which is 80kb/s
#371 [02:11] <Eman> wait a minute,
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#373 [02:11] <Eman> 10kb/s is 80kb/s?
#374 [02:11] <Kealper> KB
#375 [02:12] <Kealper> kilobytes is KB or kB, kb is kilobits
#376 [02:12] <Eman> oh
#377 [02:12] <Kealper> one byte is eight bits
#378 [02:12] <Eman> how can one player require 8mb/s when they first get the map data?
#379 [02:12] <Kealper> 800kb/s*
#380 [02:12] <Eman> wow that's a lot of data
#381 [02:13] <Eman> Why is it so intensive?
#382 [02:13] <Kealper> because the server initially has to send a boatload of data to the player
#383 [02:13] <Kealper> all the map data for a ton of chunks around the area :/
#384 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Eman - Do you know how big a chunk is?
#385 [02:13] <Kealper> and each chunk contains all the info for a 16x16 square that is 128 blocks tall
#386 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> It's 16x16x128 blocks
#387 [02:13] <Kealper> grey >.>
#388 [02:13] <Kealper> lol
#389 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Upon loading, it sends 9 chunks to a client
#390 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> !calc 16*16*128*9
#391 [02:14] <GreyBot> Answer: 294912
#392 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Or nearly 300k blocks to a client
#393 [02:14] <aetherian> :O
#394 [02:14] <aetherian> a calc!
#395 [02:14] <aetherian> !calc 10/3
#396 [02:14] <GreyBot> Answer: 3.333333
#397 [02:14] <aetherian> awww
#398 [02:14] <Kealper> i wonder if i can do that via Execute
#399 [02:14] <Eman> I can understand there're a lot of things, that are on screen at once, but it feels very unoptimized
#400 [02:14] <xales> !calc sqrt(-1)
#401 [02:14] <GreyBot> Answer: 0
#402 [02:14] <xales> lol
#403 [02:15] <aetherian> lolfail
#404 [02:15] <Kealper> Eman: oh, it is...very much so lol
#405 [02:15] <aetherian> !calc e^(pi*sqrt(-1))
#406 [02:15] <GreyBot> Answer: 0
#407 [02:15] <Eman> consider the fact that I host almost every game from this connection quite comfortably
#408 [02:15] <aetherian> fail
#409 [02:15] <xales> !calc e
#410 [02:15] <GreyBot> Answer: 0
#411 [02:15] * GreyVulpine pffts
#411 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> !calc meaning of life
#412 [02:15] <GreyBot> Answer: 42
#413 [02:16] <xales> lol
#414 [02:16] <Kealper> Eman: one of the main differences between minecraft and other games is that minecraft has randomly generated, changable enviroments
#415 [02:16] <Eman> if what you're saying is true Kealper, minecraft is transmitting redundant data
#416 [02:16] <xales> Eman, not really
#417 [02:16] <Kealper> most games like FPSs and such all have static enviroments, so no enviromental data needs to be sent to the clients
#418 [02:17] <Eman> if it's a requirement to be constantly transferring information pertaining to blocks that aren't being changed
#419 [02:17] <Eman> then that is redundant data
#420 [02:17] <Kealper> it does not continually send data like that
#421 [02:17] <Kealper> i just mean upon connection
#422 [02:17] <Kealper> and then when walking around to loading new places
#423 [02:17] <Eman> ok, but after connection?
#424 [02:17] <Kealper> it just updates all the entities in the loaded areas
#425 [02:18] <Eman> regardless this information you're telling me about now, concerning loading new areas - I don't think it's that accurate
#426 [02:18] <Eman> seeing as there's little to no lag without monsters enabled
#427 [02:18] <Kealper> so if you and your friend connected, waited a while for everything to load, and just stood there, the lag would probably stop
#428 [02:18] <Eman> with my 50kb/s upload to two different players
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#430 [02:18] <xales> with monsters disabled, there is conciderably less entitity information that needs to be sent
#431 [02:19] <xales> anyway; if you just want to play with one person, it might be easier to just find another public server to play on
#432 [02:19] <Eman> the majority of the network usage would pertain to entity information in that case
#433 [02:19] <Kealper> Eman: would you mind if i connected to your server to see? i could tell you if it was internet lag, internet not good enough, or machine not good enough
#434 [02:19] <Eman> because in terms of enviromental data, my connection can handle it very easily
#435 [02:20] <Eman> Kealper I live in a different country that has a terrible connection to yours
#436 [02:20] <Eman> You'd most probably lag
#437 [02:20] <Eman> I can explain the lag to you though
#438 [02:20] <Eman> it takes about 40 seconds to open a crafting box, or chest; when the lag's bad
#439 [02:20] <Eman> really bad
#440 [02:20] <aetherian> ow
#441 [02:20] <Eman> at it's worst that's how long it takes
#442 [02:21] <Eman> but otherwise it'll take about 15 seconds
#443 [02:21] <Kealper> what else is going on when it happens?
#444 [02:21] <Eman> People are building
#445 [02:21] <Kealper> and are you connecting with your external address or just localhost?
#446 [02:21] <Eman> just placing blocks and destroyign blocks
#447 [02:21] <Eman> I'm connecting to local host
#448 [02:21] <Kealper> so they would be moving around then?
#449 [02:21] <Eman> and last night my one friend was also connection to my lan IP
#450 [02:21] <Eman> yes, they'd be moving - but not very far
#451 [02:22] <Kealper> did it lag for the lan?
#452 [02:22] <Eman> yes
#453 [02:22] <Eman> but it only lagged for the lan when the external client connected
#454 [02:22] <Kealper> were you on it at the time, and have you ever checked it with someone else connected, but you not running the client?
#455 [02:22] <Eman> before that - there was barely any lag
#456 [02:22] <Kealper> hmm...
#457 [02:22] <Eman> yes, when I left the server - and there were only 2 people - it didn't lag
#458 [02:22] <Eman> (with monsters enabled)
#459 [02:23] <Eman> one person was on lan
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#461 [02:23] <Eman> the other connected through my external IP
#462 [02:23] <Eman> I've got an I5 760
#463 [02:23] <Eman> I set the affinity of 3 CPUs to one server, and one CPU to my client
#464 [02:24] <Eman> the lag continued
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#466 [02:24] <Kealper> ok so...lemme make sure i got this correct...if someone is connected externally, when you are logged in to the server...it will lag like a boss
#467 [02:24] <Kealper> but when you are not logged onthe server, it does not lag?
#468 [02:24] <Eman> it only lagged if I was on the server - with my other lan partner, and the external connection
#469 [02:25] <Eman> if I left the server - with the other two still remaining the lag didn't persist
#470 [02:25] <Kealper> this sounds EXACTLY like a case i tried helping with a while back
#471 [02:26] <Eman> what was the issue?
#472 [02:26] <Kealper> we determined it was because his connection's upload was too bad....and i can only explain half of why it did that...
#473 [02:27] <Eman> how'd you determine that?
#474 [02:27] <Eman> also, how'd I be able to tell if it was CPU lag?
#475 [02:27] <xales> Kealper: Glas?
#476 [02:27] <Kealper> xales: that'd be the one
#477 [02:27] <xales> Eman: If your CPU was at 100%
#478 [02:28] <Eman> and how CPU intensive is this game for 3 players?
#479 [02:28] <Eman> because with two players - just me and the other person on my network, I played comfortably
#480 [02:28] <Kealper> if you ask me, it's because the server can't push data to other clients until it's finished sending data to the client on the slow connection
#481 [02:29] <xales> Kealper
#482 [02:29] <xales> Java probably does that
#483 [02:29] <xales> =\
#484 [02:29] <Kealper> and iirc, that is why all the old Quake servers had the option to kick people if their ping was too high, because it could lag everyone else
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#486 [02:29] <Kealper> lack of threads ftl
#487 [02:30] <Eman> when my friend hosted - and I lagged, he didn't lag apparently
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#489 [02:30] <Kealper> hmm....is his upload better than yours?
#490 [02:30] <Eman> wonder if turning off animals, and turning monsters on would make a difference
#491 [02:30] <Eman> his upload is the same as mine
#492 [02:31] <Eman> do more monsters spawn than animals?
#493 [02:31] <Kealper> that might help...anything to make it need to constantly update less entities
#494 [02:31] <Kealper> yes, they do
#495 [02:31] <Eman> How many more?
#496 [02:31] <Eman> I don't need numbers, I'm just asking for an estimate
#497 [02:31] <Kealper> i think it's something like up to 200 monsters can be on a loaded set of chunks, and 15 animals
#498 [02:33] <Eman> lol
#499 [02:33] <Eman> ok, I get the feeling that turning animals off wont make much of a difference
#500 [02:34] <Eman> ok, well i'll try a few things
#501 [02:34] <Eman> one final question - name tags, is there absolutely anything I can do to turn them off?
#502 [02:34] <Kealper> yeah....and the issue with "just updating monsters" does not sound like much until you factor in 200 monsters (all updating their direction, what way they are looking, what way they are walking), and minecraft's super ugly netcode :/
#503 [02:34] <Kealper> and no
#504 [02:35] <Kealper> there might be a mod to disable them, but i don't know where you'd look for that
#505 [02:35] <Eman> Just out of interest, what's your opinion on this, do you think minecraft would ever be updated to reduce the netload?
#506 [02:36] <Kealper> i have heard that making it nicer on the packetspam is on the plate for down the road
#507 [02:37] <Kealper> and Notch has already said that Alpha was just to rush in the main content of the game, and Beta was for tweeking all the nasty code that Alpha brough in, and adding better-quality content
#508 [02:38] <Kealper> and since we hit beta, lots of performance stuff has already been done, so i'm sure it's just a matter of time before they tackle that ugly beast of netcode
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#510 [02:39] <SinZ> Eman, The next update introduces a new map format, so i think that'll fix alot of performance issues
#511 [02:39] <bdog> can anyone help me with the Launch4j error
#512 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> The what error?
#513 [02:39] <Kealper> launch4j error?
#514 [02:39] <SinZ> java version
#515 [02:39] <SinZ> ?
#516 [02:39] <bdog> i just reinstalled java
#517 [02:39] <bdog> i think 6
#518 [02:39] <SinZ> 6 isn't realy helping
#519 [02:39] <Eman> thanks for helping Kealper
#520 [02:39] <xales> What error, specifically
#521 [02:39] <xales> do you get
#522 [02:40] <Kealper> Eman: np...but, sorry we could not resolve said lag issues...if you get it fixed i'd like to know what fixed it :/
#523 [02:40] <Kealper> i hate being wrong, but i love to be proven wrong, because that means i won't be wrong the next time :P
#524 [02:41] <bdog> the registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment
#525 [02:41] <SinZ> Kealper, Next update should fix it (Fingers crossed)
#526 [02:41] <xales> bdog: what version of Windows are you running?
#527 [02:41] <bdog> installation or the runtime is corrupted
#528 [02:41] <bdog> 7
#529 [02:41] <Kealper> SinZ: the map format changes do offer a bit of performance, but i'm not sure if that will translate into less packetspam :/
#530 [02:41] <SinZ> well, the chunks would be more organised
#531 [02:42] <xales> bdog: when you reinstalled it, did you uninstall the old one first?
#532 [02:42] <bdog> yes
#533 [02:42] <bdog> well
#534 [02:42] <bdog> i deleted it
#535 [02:43] <xales> deleted?
#536 [02:43] <xales> ...deleted how
#537 [02:43] <bdog> right clicked
#538 [02:43] <xales> what, exactly, did you delete?
#539 [02:43] <xales> the add/remove programs entry?
#540 [02:43] <bdog> java folder in program files
#541 [02:44] * aetherian yawns
#541 [02:44] <xales> that's...why isn't not working
#542 [02:44] * aetherian waves good night to aubot
#542 [02:44] <xales> you should never do that
#543 [02:44] * SinZ yawns with aetherian
#543 [02:44] * aetherian waves good night to xales
#543 [02:44] <xales> uninstall Java again
#544 [02:44] <xales> using the uninstaller
#545 [02:44] <SinZ> xales: I did that once, took a year to fix
#546 [02:44] <xales> then install it again
#547 [02:44] <SinZ> i had to copy java off someone elses comp, put it back in
#548 [02:44] <SinZ> then unstall
#549 [02:46] <bdog> ok
#550 [02:46] <bdog> uninstalled
#551 [02:46] <bdog> re-instal?
#552 [02:46] <xales> yes
#553 [02:47] <bdog> told me java already exists
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#555 [02:47] <bdog> that didnt happen the first time i reinstalled
#556 [02:48] <xales> uh
#557 [02:49] <xales> go install ccleaner
#558 [02:49] <xales> run it
#559 [02:49] <xales> do a registry cleanup
#560 [02:49] <bdog> well
#561 [02:49] <bdog> i seid yes to downloading over it
#562 [02:49] <bdog> and now the game works
#563 [02:50] <bdog> so thank you
#564 [02:50] <bdog> said*
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#567 [02:51] <mib_t8rjdq> it says pixel format not accelerated
#568 [02:51] <xales> mib_t8rjdq: did you update your graphics card drivers?
#569 [02:52] <mib_t8rjdq> i think i did
#570 [02:52] <xales> ??> mib_t8rjdq win/dxdiag
#571 [02:52] <VoxelHead> mib_t8rjdq: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#572 [02:52] <VoxelHead> mib_t8rjdq: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#574 [02:57] <mohawk> hello
#575 [02:57] <Kealper> ello
#576 [02:58] <mohawk> i need some help i have a problem with minecraft
#577 [02:58] <Kealper> ?? specific
#578 [02:59] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#579 [02:59] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#580 [03:00] <mohawk> ok well i open minecraft and i got a black screen in download and white in browser
#581 [03:00] <xales> ?? dxdiag
#582 [03:00] <xales> ?? win/dxdiag
#583 [03:00] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#584 [03:00] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#585 [03:01] <Kealper> one day....we will be able to serve help completely through VoxelHead...
#586 [03:01] <Kealper> lol
#587 [03:01] <xales> yes
#588 [03:01] <xales> automatically
#589 [03:01] <SinZ> ?? help
#590 [03:01] <SinZ> damn
#591 [03:01] <xales> ?? commands
#592 [03:01] <VoxelHead> commands: See http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex for a list of FAQ entries
#593 [03:01] <SinZ> whos bot is it
#594 [03:02] <xales> ??+ help|See http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex for a list of FAQ entries
#595 [03:02] <xales> SinZ: DopeGhoti
#596 [03:02] <SinZ> ?? fubar/hamachi
#597 [03:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#598 [03:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#599 [03:03] <SinZ> lol
#600 [03:03] <xales> SinZ: test in ##voxelhead so as not to spam here
#601 [03:03] <SinZ> i wondered how hamachi had 5.*.*.*
#602 [03:03] <SinZ> i was actully wondering about hamachi =P
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#604 [03:04] <mohawk> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8G05TYZh
#605 [03:04] <xales> mohawk: that's not all of it
#606 [03:04] <xales> can you copy all of it?
#607 [03:06] <mohawk> im trying to find the url box that store it
#608 [03:07] <xales> no, I mean
#609 [03:07] <xales> copy all of the text that you get from dxdiag
#610 [03:07] <mohawk> ok
#611 [03:07] <mohawk> 1 1 WDM Streaming Rendering Devices: 2 2 Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000 3 3 Realtek HDA SPDIF Out,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000 5 5 BDA Network Providers: 6 6 Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386 7 7 Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6000.16386
#612 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Not here. pastebin.com it
#613 [03:08] <mohawk> i did
#614 [03:08] <xales> that's not the whole thing
#615 [03:08] <xales> you need to pastebin all of what dxdiag gives you
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#617 [03:11] <SinZ> xales, know any good free dns servers i can use?
#618 [03:11] <mohawk> Ok let me understand, so i copy my specs into pastebin.com/ click submit and what do i give you guys?
#619 [03:11] <SinZ> the link
#620 [03:11] <SinZ> but paste EVERYTHING into pastebin
#621 [03:11] * lemon-rev just found cave system sooo big its taken 128 candles plus what i havent even explored yet dammit, still trying to un cover this thhing
#621 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> You copy EVERYTHING that dxdiag gives you into pastebin.com, then give us the pastebin URL
#622 [03:12] <lemon-rev> the link pastebin gives you
#623 [03:12] <xales> SinZ: for resolving?
#624 [03:12] <SinZ> yeh
#625 [03:12] <SinZ> for personal use
#626 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> 8.8.8.8
#627 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> or openDNS
#628 [03:12] <SinZ> tried googles
#629 [03:13] <SinZ> my xbox was fine with googles servers for awhile, now it hates it =(
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#631 [03:14] <SinZ> triying the first one i found =D
#632 [03:14] <SinZ> trying*
#633 [03:15] <SinZ> ok, my xbox is being dog =(
#634 [03:15] <SinZ> "Router isn't properly responding to ICMP responses"
#635 [03:15] <xales> lol
#636 [03:15] <xales> that's not DNS
#637 [03:16] <SinZ> it WAS dns issues before i changed it
#638 [03:16] <SinZ> now its back to dns issue =(
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#640 [03:19] <mohawk> ok maybe these will give what you want
#641 [03:19] <mohawk> http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb143/vonmadthane/VonSpecs.png
#642 [03:19] <xales> mohawk: that's still not the entire output from dxdiag
#643 [03:20] <mohawk> hmmm
#644 [03:20] <xales> open it again - make sure you are on the first tab
#645 [03:20] <SinZ> hmm
#646 [03:20] <xales> and click "save all information"
#647 [03:20] <SinZ> ima try my computers dns settings this time
#648 [03:25] <mohawk> OK i copy and paste all the info of my specs onto http://pastebin.com/ so what do i need to send to you guys/girls
#649 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> The URL that pastebin gives you
#650 [03:26] <mohawk> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6Uf6QAjF
#651 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Much better
#652 [03:26] <mohawk> ok
#653 [03:27] <Kealper> .join #minecraft
#654 [03:27] <xales> mohawk: go to nvidia.com, and driver downloads
#655 [03:27] <xales> find the driver for that card (NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS)
#656 [03:32] <SinZ> Fuck my xbox
#657 [03:32] <SinZ> it doesn't like internet anymore
#658 [03:33] <SinZ> it refuses to use a dns server, and the people who made xbox live were stupid enough to make it use domains insted of ips >:(((
#659 [03:34] <SinZ> my computer handles dns perfictly fine, and uses same dns server that my xbox is refusing to use
#660 [03:34] <xales> what error does it give you
#661 [03:34] <SinZ> "Your DNS Server can't resolve the names of the Xbox LIVE servers or Xbox.com
#662 [03:34] <xales> lol
#663 [03:34] <xales> fail
#664 [03:35] <GreyVulpine> SinZ - Use openDNS servers
#665 [03:35] <GreyVulpine> http://www.opendns.com/start/
#666 [03:35] <GreyVulpine> IPs are at the bottom
#667 [03:35] <SinZ> ok, it likes the dns again
#668 [03:36] <SinZ> "Your console can connect to Xbox LIVE, but your router or gateway isn't properly responding to ICMP responses"
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#670 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Check your router, see if it's dropping ping packets
#671 [03:36] <SinZ> and i check that how...
#672 [03:36] <SinZ> my computer is fine
#673 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Totally depends on the router
#674 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> What make/model...
#675 [03:37] <SinZ> Thomson Gateway TG782T
#676 [03:39] <SinZ> doesn't matter, its back to bitching about dns
#677 [03:41] <SinZ> ima test OpenDNS
#678 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> I don't think that gateway's doing any ICMP packet filtering..
#679 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> Or, I can't find any reference to one in its 80 page manual
#680 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> Is that the only modem/router you have?
#681 [03:44] <SinZ> yeh
#682 [03:44] <SinZ> but it used to work fine
#683 [03:44] <SinZ> and the only info i can get is, if it isn't windows vista or windows 7 verified it might not work
#684 [03:44] <GreyVulpine> The manual listed at : http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/getfile.php?id=6978
#685 [03:44] <SinZ> but my vista works fine on it
#686 [03:44] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't mention anything about ICMP/ping packet filtering at all
#687 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> I don't think it has that functionality
#688 [03:45] <SinZ> i think its xbox side
#689 [03:45] <SinZ> maybe dust or something
#690 [03:45] <SinZ> because if it was modem or router, the 10 or so laptops that have used the modem wouldn't work
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#694 [04:05] <v_boy> hello, can i ask something here?
#695 [04:05] <xales> ?? ask
#696 [04:05] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#697 [04:05] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#699 [04:06] <v_boy> my minecraft.exe file always stuck at auto updating, what am i supposed to do?
#700 [04:09] <xales> ??> v_boy win/reinst
#701 [04:09] <VoxelHead> v_boy: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#702 [04:09] <VoxelHead> v_boy: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#705 [04:15] <Kantola> hello
#706 [04:16] <xales> hi
#707 [04:16] <Kantola> hows it going :)
#708 [04:17] <xales> good, I guess
#709 [04:18] <Kantola> wait is this full buyed minecraft or trough hamachi??
#710 [04:18] <xales> what?
#711 [04:18] <Kantola> the help i mean
#712 [04:18] <Kantola> :P
#713 [04:18] <xales> what about it?
#714 [04:19] <Kantola> you know it says minecrafthelp and idk which one it is for
#715 [04:19] <xales> It's for Classic and Beta
#716 [04:19] <xales> All Minecraft
#717 [04:19] <Kantola> aa okay
#718 [04:19] <Kantola> oh
#719 [04:20] <Kantola> nice
#720 [04:20] <Kantola> that its for all
#721 [04:22] <Kantola> oh yeah
#722 [04:22] <Kantola> i was coming to look hamachi minecraft hosts
#723 [04:22] <xales> "hamachi minecraft hosts"?
#724 [04:22] <Kantola> yes
#725 [04:23] <xales> can you explain exactly what that is? ._.
#726 [04:23] <Kantola> you dont know hamachi?
#727 [04:24] <xales> I know what Hamachi is
#728 [04:24] <xales> but what are you looking for?
#729 [04:24] <Kantola> oh
#730 [04:24] <Kantola> well
#731 [04:24] <Kantola> im looking hamachi server
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#734 [04:24] <Kantola> where i can connect to the host there trough minecraft
#735 [04:25] <xales> why Hamachi?
#736 [04:25] <Kantola> well
#737 [04:25] <xales> Why not just a normal server? =/
#738 [04:25] <xales> also
#739 [04:25] <xales> ?? fubar/hamachi
#740 [04:25] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#741 [04:25] <Kantola> i cant buy it yet
#742 [04:25] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
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#744 [04:25] <xales> Kantola: ...
#745 [04:25] <xales> It's not free
#746 [04:25] <xales> you can't play it if you haven't bought it
#747 [04:25] <Kantola> yes i know
#748 [04:25] <Kantola> :D
#749 [04:25] <Kantola> rly?
#750 [04:25] <Kantola> :)
#751 [04:26] <xales> ._.
#752 [04:26] <xales> no piracy stuff in here
#753 [04:26] <xales> :(
#754 [04:26] <Kantola> well
#755 [04:26] <Kantola> well i would buy it
#756 [04:27] <Kantola> but i need to be 18 to use my bank account :D and im 17...
#757 [04:27] <Kantola> so yeah
#758 [04:27] <xales> not being able to afford it or pay for it is no excuse to steal it
#759 [04:27] <xales> ask your parents to buy it for you
#760 [04:27] <Kantola> here we go again...
#761 [04:27] <Coll> theres also gift cards
#762 [04:27] <xales> ^
#763 [04:27] <xales> well
#764 [04:28] <xales> most gift cards don't work for international transactions
#765 [04:28] <xales> other kinds of prepaid cards are fine
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#770 [05:03] <TheBix> so guys
#771 [05:03] <TheBix> anyone know when notch plans to make a new render engine to make draw distance massive?
#772 [05:03] <xales> I don't think it's something planned right now
#773 [05:04] <TheBix> lame
#774 [05:04] <TheBix> what about a higher height limit
#775 [05:04] <TheBix> would be awesome with at 1km above see level
#776 [05:04] <xales> not planned either
#777 [05:05] <TheBix> also lame
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#779 [05:10] <TheBix> wait
#780 [05:10] <TheBix> guys
#781 [05:11] <TheBix> anybody know how this encrypted login thing will work
#782 [05:11] <TheBix> its coming out in 1.3 right?
#783 [05:11] <xales> possibly?
#784 [05:11] <xales> it won't seem any different to an end-user
#785 [05:11] <xales> it will work exactly the same
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#787 [05:13] <Gutfucker> xales
#788 [05:13] <xales> hi
#789 [05:13] <Gutfucker> oh phew
#790 [05:14] <Gutfucker> my comp just made a big noise, and i thought something broke
#791 [05:14] <xales> ?
#792 [05:14] <xales> oh
#793 [05:14] <xales> lol
#794 [05:14] <Gutfucker> apparently not the internetz ;D
#795 [05:14] <xales> indeed
#796 [05:14] <Gutfucker> all channels went silent
#797 [05:14] <SinZ> xales: you got any info on the new login?
#798 [05:15] <xales> SinZ: such as...?
#799 [05:15] <SinZ> is it http or https?
#800 [05:15] <xales> if it's encrypted I'd imagine https
#801 [05:15] <SinZ> then it might work at school =D
#802 [05:15] <xales> lol
#803 [05:16] <SinZ> untill it supports SOCKS proxy, it'll not work
#804 [05:16] <SinZ> ssh tunnel ftw there
#805 [05:16] <xales> it does now
#806 [05:16] <xales> Java supports it
#807 [05:16] <xales> somewhat
#808 [05:17] <SinZ> howso
#809 [05:17] <xales> Java has proxy settings
#810 [05:17] <xales> Minecraft might honor them
#811 [05:17] <SinZ> example java command pl0x =D
#812 [05:18] <xales> control panel
#813 [05:18] <xales> java
#814 [05:18] <xales> :P
#815 [05:18] <SinZ> command line instant settings pl0x
#816 [05:18] <xales> I dont kno
#817 [05:18] <xales> w
#818 [05:18] <xales> use control panel thing
#819 [05:18] <SinZ> ... cant use control panel at school
#820 [05:18] <xales> lol
#821 [05:18] <xales> google it then
#822 [05:19] <SinZ> aww
#823 [05:19] <SinZ> http proxy only
#824 [05:21] <SinZ> happyface
#825 [05:21] <SinZ> new article says socks too
#826 [05:22] <TheBix> xales: I meant do you know if it will use encryption to log in to a server
#827 [05:22] <SinZ> my guess would be same system for anything to do with minecraft.net
#828 [05:22] <SinZ> so cloak, skin and authentication
#829 [05:23] <SinZ> (both logging in, and joining server)
#830 [05:23] <TheBix> what about the server then
#831 [05:23] <SinZ> thats direct url
#832 [05:23] <SinZ> so encryption wouldn't be needed
#833 [05:23] <SinZ> direct ip*
#834 [05:23] <TheBix> "direct ip" ?
#835 [05:24] <SinZ> give 1 reason why encryption would be needed for communication with server
#836 [05:24] <TheBix> "direct internet protocol" is that using the IP without TCP or something?
#837 [05:24] <TheBix> SinZ: I was about to say it doesn't transmit anything sensitive
#838 [05:25] <TheBix> but then you said "thats direct url"
#839 [05:26] <SinZ> it doesn't go through minecraft.net to communicate with server
#840 [05:26] <SinZ> it only asks minecraft.net for permission to connect
#841 [05:26] <TheBix> ya
#842 [05:26] <TheBix> thats what I meant.
#843 [05:26] <TheBix> its called authentication
#844 [05:27] <SinZ> my school techs are slowly learning how to stop us from using proxy
#845 [05:27] <TheBix> blocking proxies?
#846 [05:27] <SinZ> killing ssh tunnel processes =P
#847 [05:27] <TheBix> I heard its pretty hard to stop people using TOR
#848 [05:28] <SinZ> ssh tunnel is faster then tor
#849 [05:28] <TheBix> yeah, but that can be "killed" in your words
#850 [05:28] <SinZ> well, mine is atleast
#851 [05:28] <SinZ> like any other program can
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#853 [05:29] <SinZ> its virtualy to make it inpossible to kill or terminate without - nvm >:D
#854 [05:29] <SinZ> gave me an idea which i cant do
#855 [05:29] <TheBix> how do you ssh tunnel anyway?
#856 [05:29] <SinZ> putty
#857 [05:29] <TheBix> wat
#858 [05:30] <SinZ> its a program to do ssh
#859 [05:30] <TheBix> ok
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#861 [05:36] <TheBix> I wonder if they block ssh at my school
#862 [05:39] <SinZ> well, techs use it so it shouldn't be blocked
#863 [05:39] <SinZ> and only reason they kill it on us is because they know we are trouble with computers =P
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#865 [05:52] <Netu> I am trying to google "how to reduce Minecraft server lag" just in general. Just little things I could do to make it add up. Anyone have google search advice or know of forum threads, etc., I could view? I run Debian Lenny.
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#867 [05:54] <TheBix> what do you mean by lag
#868 [05:54] <TheBix> I hate that term, its too ambiguous.
#869 [05:54] <SinZ> there is only 1 way to reduce lag
#870 [05:54] <SinZ> Better hardware and better internet connection
#871 [05:55] <TheBix> AND/OR
#872 [05:55] <TheBix> or better software for that matter
#873 [05:55] <TheBix> (custom server?)
#874 [05:55] <CoLoN> what can u do with fish in this game besides eat it
#875 [05:56] <SinZ> but better hardware AND better internet connection = less lag =D
#876 [05:57] <CoLoN> and how do u get squid?
#877 [05:58] <Netu> Ah, well, I just meant very much in general. Just little things I could do. Sure, better hardware and connection is fine, and obvious. I am talking maybe little things knowledgable Debian users know about. Or even just how to begin adjusting for such lag. The machine is extremely powerful for my usage. I have at most ever 8-10 people on and it would easily suffice 15. The connection
#878 [05:58] <Netu> is also wonderful, and I have very low ping. However I am having a weird lag issue where it just hangs. I'm getting assistance from my provider, but in the meantime I was just curious if anyone had any random advice, was all.
#879 [05:58] <TheBix> uh
#880 [05:59] <TheBix> try software
#881 [05:59] <TheBix> oh wait
#882 [05:59] <lemon-rev> netu this is a different type of game i dont know about your lag and when it stops completly
#883 [05:59] <TheBix> u said ur machine is powerful
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#885 [05:59] <lemon-rev> but, the game works differently from normal games
#886 [05:59] <EagleYS> Hello
#887 [05:59] <lemon-rev> eagleys wats up
#888 [05:59] <EagleYS> Hm?
#889 [06:00] <EagleYS> I'm fine
#890 [06:00] <lemon-rev> oh well hello anyways
#891 [06:00] <EagleYS> Hi
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#893 [06:00] <TheBix> oh my gawd. I just realised what cloud computing is.
#894 [06:01] <DeeWoo> it sucks, that's what
#895 [06:01] <Netu> For example what about this kind of stuff? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1012&t=68128 Any advice in that regard?
#896 [06:01] <EagleYS> LG_Legacy, I wanted to ask you something about my ban from #minecraft, would it be better in PM?
#897 [06:01] <TheBix> we've pretty much gone back to the old days of just having a terminal connected to a computer DeeWoo
#898 [06:01] <DeeWoo> yupp
#899 [06:01] <TheBix> its like exactly the same concept
#900 [06:02] <lemon-rev> eagleys not me , you have to ask in here basicly pm only if you ask the person who can help you first
#901 [06:02] <EagleYS> so, only PM if I've asked in here first?
#902 [06:02] <EagleYS> or other way, PM first then ask in here?
#903 [06:02] <lemon-rev> netu what is it on that page you really wanted to know about besides the surgestions put forth about java settings and such
#904 [06:02] <lemon-rev> well not exactly
#905 [06:02] <lemon-rev> i ment
#906 [06:03] <lemon-rev> see if someone is willing to help you on what it is your after,
#907 [06:03] <lemon-rev> and if you really need to pm then you ask and only if they accept do a pm then
#908 [06:03] <lemon-rev> netu ?
#909 [06:03] <Netu> Yes?
#910 [06:03] <Emmitt> Hmmm... What all can I do to make my copy of minecraft not lag?
#911 [06:04] <lemon-rev> dont go on muliplayer
#912 [06:04] <EagleYS> well basically, I was wondering if my ban could be lifted
#913 [06:04] <lemon-rev> i asked you about the link you gave
#914 [06:04] <EagleYS> I did something very stupid on here and got banned for it
#915 [06:04] <lemon-rev> read up
#916 [06:04] <Netu> Oh, I see your question up there. I am simply asking if anyone has advice to reduce server lag on a Debian VPS.
#917 [06:04] <lemon-rev> well do you rember who banned you
#918 [06:04] <Netu> Literally, just blanket advice, google searches, all that jazz.
#919 [06:04] <Netu> (Other than hardware or connection upgrades; those are really awesome.)
#920 [06:05] <lemon-rev> netu i have no idear about linux or debian systems or vps so please wait or ask when someone from the @ comes into the channel and ask about server lagg then
#921 [06:07] <lemon-rev> netu , appart from what you have seen from the forums we cant advise you completely on the game specks since it keeps on being inproved appon and rember its beta which means its not fully complete and as it is atm the game has troules, but that is because its not a standed type of game
#922 [06:08] <lemon-rev> where ie a game loads a pre defind map minecraft loads appon aproching a new part of a unexplored area
#923 [06:08] <SinZ> what
#924 [06:08] <EagleYS> WTF
#925 [06:08] <lemon-rev> now it seems lagg occurs is because you have a lot more trying to get complete when your on a muliplayer server than a standed game
#926 [06:08] <EagleYS> when did you get here?
#927 [06:08] <EagleYS> (sinz)
#928 [06:09] <SinZ> fuck off eagle
#929 [06:09] <lemon-rev> wtf eagleys
#930 [06:09] <SinZ> >:D
#931 [06:09] <EagleYS> wait
#932 [06:09] <EagleYS> you're always here
#933 [06:09] <EagleYS> nevermind
#934 [06:09] <lemon-rev> nevermind wat
#935 [06:09] <EagleYS> he's calling me a 'dildo' on another server :I
#936 [06:09] <lemon-rev> i dont give a crap
#937 [06:09] <Netu> Well are you?
#938 [06:09] <SinZ> <SinZ> EagleYS You overused dildo, You on smp?
#939 [06:09] <SinZ> =P
#940 [06:09] <EagleYS> This conversation never happened.
#941 [06:10] * lemon-rev dont give a damm what the hell you call eatch other behind eatch other
#941 [06:10] * EagleYS returns to quiet
#941 [06:10] <lemon-rev> take that off channel
#942 [06:10] <EagleYS> I am :I
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#947 [06:34] <EagleYS> goodnight
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#949 [06:35] <oho_plump> anyone here use c10t for mapping?
#950 [06:37] <oho_plump> curious to know what the input for rotating should look like:c10t -r180 -w /path/to/world -o /path/to/copy.png doesn't work.. nor to similar varienst as -w needs to be addressed
#951 [06:37] <oho_plump> *command I should say, not input
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#953 [06:45] <oho_plump> figured it out.. the -r <degress> switch goes at the end of the command
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#955 [06:53] <Emmitt> Hmmm
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#957 [06:53] <shnuke> Hey, anyone here?
#958 [06:54] <Emmitt> So what do I do besides turning it on peaceful and building giant things?
#959 [06:54] <shnuke> I was wondering: if you are playing SP on one computer and change accounts, is the SP data from the other account still there?
#960 [06:55] <shnuke> Since it's saved to the hard drive and all, I wasn't sure.
#961 [06:56] <shnuke> Hello?
#962 [06:57] <BarryCarlyon> Shnaw: yes.
#963 [06:57] <shnuke> ??
#964 [06:57] <BarryCarlyon> Player data is stored in the players dir Shnaw
#965 [06:57] <BarryCarlyon> damn tab auto complet.
#966 [06:57] <BarryCarlyon> Sorry I am replying to you shnuke :-D
#967 [06:58] <shnuke> So the same save data would be there?
#968 [06:58] <BarryCarlyon> Should be.
#969 [06:58] <shnuke> And thanks for replying
#970 [06:58] <BarryCarlyon> Not tested it on single player.
#971 [06:58] <shnuke> Alright, that's terriffic
#972 [06:58] <BarryCarlyon> As I only have one account.
#973 [06:58] <shnuke> So my bro can buy the game and play instead of just using mine, and he won't lose what he's built?
#974 [06:58] <BarryCarlyon> But it should work. Since you can make a SMP map a SP map and vice versa jsut by moving the world files round.
#975 [06:58] <shnuke> Okay
#976 [06:59] <BarryCarlyon> shnuke: persoanlly I would setup a server in your house.
#977 [06:59] <BarryCarlyon> Then you can both work on the same world at the same time
#978 [06:59] <Emmitt> Wait
#979 [06:59] <Emmitt> No. It is all one data on single player
#980 [06:59] <shnuke> Okay, so it would work
#981 [06:59] <shnuke> Thanks guys
#982 [06:59] <BarryCarlyon> I'd still run a server :-P
#983 [06:59] <Emmitt> If you change accounts, and save, it will overwrite what you have unless you make a new world
#984 [07:00] <BarryCarlyon> The onyl thing it could overwrite is the Inventory data.
#985 [07:00] <BarryCarlyon> But like I said I havn't tested it
#986 [07:00] <shnuke> Emmitt: but would you be able to play on what you have?
#987 [07:01] <Emmitt> Yes. It is all the one world data on the thing. I'm not sure if it would be the same inventory though.
#988 [07:01] <shnuke> Ah, okay
#989 [07:01] <Emmitt> So you would play on the same world, but I'm not sure about your inventory.
#990 [07:01] <shnuke> and also I can't set up a server in my house :(
#991 [07:01] <shnuke> Alright, thanks
#992 [07:01] <shnuke> You guys are tops
#993 [07:01] <BarryCarlyon> shnuke: why not?
#994 [07:01] <shnuke> From what I understand, it requires more processing power/computers/etc than I have
#995 [07:02] <Emmitt> shnuke: You can run the server client and the play client on the came computer if it's good enough
#996 [07:02] <BarryCarlyon> Ah.
#997 [07:02] <shnuke> I hear people dedicate a computer to it, which I can't do
#998 [07:02] <BarryCarlyon> You can still try it and see :-D
#999 [07:02] <shnuke> Also the computer is a mac, not sure how that factors in
#1000 [07:02] <Emmitt> Urf.
#1001 [07:02] <Emmitt> I hate macs
#1002 [07:03] <shnuke> :P
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#1004 [07:03] <BarryCarlyon> Would of worked fine on the mac.
#1005 [07:03] <BarryCarlyon> Mine does :-D
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#1019 [08:25] <Emmitt> So do torches ward off monsters?
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#1021 [08:25] <blip2> they don't spawn in light
#1022 [08:26] <Emmitt> Ah
#1023 [08:26] <blip2> they can and will wander into light
#1024 [08:29] <Emmitt> oh
#1025 [08:29] <Emmitt> Hmm
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#1027 [08:29] <Emmitt> How do I attract monsters then? A buttload of torches?
#1028 [08:30] <blip2> no light only affects where they spawn iirc
#1029 [08:30] <blip2> players attract monsters
#1030 [08:30] <Emmitt> ok
#1031 [08:31] <Emmitt> So if I sit in the middle of my trap they'll come to me?
#1032 [08:31] <Emmitt> And what difficulty has the most monsters? Hard?
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#1035 [08:40] <SlowDeath> Hey
#1036 [08:40] <SlowDeath> How do i spawn diffrent color cloth blocks?
#1037 [08:41] <Emmitt> You make dye
#1038 [08:41] <Emmitt> And then dye them
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#1040 [08:42] <SlowDeath> i cannot just spawn them?
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#1053 [10:18] <Pypie> Hellp
#1054 [10:18] <Pypie> Hello*
#1055 [10:19] <Pypie> I just bought minecraft and it says USER NOT PREMIUM
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#1057 [10:19] <Pypie> Anyone knows why?
#1058 [10:20] <Octocraft> Hi I need some help minecraft crashed and its not comeing backup it says the cause of it is:java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: eb
#1059 [10:20] <xolotl> Pypie: Sometimes it takes a bit for the processing to go through
#1060 [10:21] <Pypie> Oh ok
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#1062 [10:21] <MDanz> hi
#1063 [10:22] <MDanz> GreyVulpine you there matE?
#1064 [10:22] <Octocraft> by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: eb at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
#1065 [10:22] <Octocraft> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
#1066 [10:22] <MDanz> anyone know anythingl ike worldgaurd but works?
#1067 [10:22] <Octocraft> ... 21 more
#1068 [10:22] <Octocraft> Anyone know how to help??
#1069 [10:23] <MDanz> no soz
#1070 [10:23] <MDanz> anyone know how to use bukkit~?
#1071 [10:24] <MDanz> GreyVulpine you there?
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#1073 [10:24] <Blood_display> Lol, anyone here?
#1074 [10:24] <MDanz> y
#1075 [10:24] <MDanz> yh
#1076 [10:24] <Blood_display> !check 192.168.1.68
#1077 [10:24] <MDanz> but im not a helper person :)
#1078 [10:24] <MDanz> anyone konw how to use Bukkit or anythingl ike it?
#1079 [10:24] <Blood_display> Anyone wanna come my serveR?
#1080 [10:25] <MDanz> cz world gaurd look rely good but it dnt owkr for me
#1081 [10:25] <Blood_display> !check 68.215.108.142
#1082 [10:25] <Blood_display> Guys come on 68.215.108.142
#1083 [10:25] <Blood_display> Free OP
#1084 [10:25] <MDanz> anynoe know any good admin pannels?
#1085 [10:25] <MDanz> like worldgaurd
#1086 [10:25] <MDanz> but i cnat get worldgaurd to work
#1087 [10:26] <MDanz> anyone?
#1088 [10:27] <MDanz> none?
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#1090 [10:43] <Maariu5_> Minecraft.net down?
#1091 [10:44] <rf`> dammit Amazon
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#1096 [10:54] <Raimonds> Hello
#1097 [10:54] <LRWerewolf> Raimonds, Good morning! How are you this fine day?
#1098 [10:55] <Raimonds> Its evening :D But Good Morning to you. Can you help me?
#1099 [10:55] <Blood_display> Need a tester
#1100 [10:56] <LRWerewolf> At least... I assume its a fine day. There are still quite a few hours left in it for me and today could be the day some nuclear power accidentally launches and not aware of the accidental nature of it, all other nuclear powers launch, resulting in nuclear armaggedon, which I thing most people would agree would be a pretty sucky day, but currently it seems fine enough.
#1101 [10:56] <LRWerewolf> s/thing/think/
#1102 [10:56] <Raimonds> LRWerewolf, so can you help me? :D
#1103 [10:57] <LRWerewolf> Raimonds, I can certainly try to help you, whether I can or not remains to be seen. What seems to be the problem?
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#1105 [10:58] <Raimonds> LRWerewolf, Im new to this game, because I upgraded my old pc, and Now I can run it without lag, but there is a problem. I cant chop down anything how fast and how much I try to hit it
#1106 [10:59] <Raimonds> LRWerewolf, I counted how much hits people do on video, now I will try again :D
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#1108 [11:00] <LRWerewolf> Raimonds, hrm, that is a good question. I assume you're talking about trying to harvest wood with your bare hands at this point (since you say you're new to the game and you use the term 'chop down')?
#1109 [11:00] <Raimonds> Yes but when I hit it its not breaking it like fixis himself
#1110 [11:01] <Raimonds> fixes*
#1111 [11:01] <LRWerewolf> Raimonds, are you playing single player or on a server?
#1112 [11:01] <Raimonds> LRWerewolf, single
#1113 [11:03] <LRWerewolf> Raimonds: I just loaded a startup game and checked, it took about 5 seconds of Kung Fu on a wood block to break it and harvest the wood. I would try going as high as 10 seconds, if that doesn't work, I might purge my install and let the client reinstall and see if that fixes.
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#1115 [11:05] <vegas> hello
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#1117 [11:07] <vegas> is the game down?
#1118 [11:07] <extarus> hello can anyone help me, i've been looking for a few days now for a map download if anyone has one, i am looking for a map thats been dug down to the bedrock and is esentially just a big pit for building in
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#1120 [11:09] <LRWerewolf> extarus: MCedit can produce exactly what you're asking for with very little fuss. I've used it extensively to do just that for my sandbox environments where I'm testing components for large redstone builds.
#1121 [11:09] <Raimonds> LRWerewolf oh now its working fine, last time I tryed I hit it for about minute and nothing happened :D
#1122 [11:10] <LRWerewolf> Raimonds: Then the answer to your question, "Can you help me?" appears to be a circumstantial 'yes'. :)
#1123 [11:10] <extarus> well i've tried using that but it crashes my computer every time, i am working on a single ram here and my computer is slow enough with just minecraft so thats why i've been lookin for a download of one thats already made
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#1127 [11:11] <Xerati> cute
#1128 [11:11] <Raimonds> LRWerewolf thanks, this is the best game, I have know it for a long time, but this is first time I can actually play it :D
#1129 [11:12] <ssen> test
#1130 [11:12] <Joblev> Raimonds IKR I played alpha forever but I finally bought it a couple days ago :D
#1131 [11:13] <Raimonds> Joblev My video card was damn bad, so it lagged a hell
#1132 [11:13] <Joblev> Awww D:
#1133 [11:13] <Raimonds> Last weekend bought something better :D
#1134 [11:13] <Xerati> 7
#1135 [11:13] <LRWerewolf> Extarus: I know of no pre-generated map download sites that would have that. But that does raise the interesting point that a map-exchange site might be an intriguing possibility. I'd generate one for you but I'm currently at work and can't access my copy of MCedit.
#1136 [11:13] <Joblev> Orlly?
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#1138 [11:14] <vegas> Im getting this: [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#1139 [11:15] <vegas> any help?
#1140 [11:15] <rkabir> vegas: i believe everyone is — what are you trying to do?
#1141 [11:16] <extarus> LRWerewolf: i've found a few map share websites and none have what i'm looking for, it's rather a bummer too, i've seen people building in pits like the one i need since the beggining of this games development and it's hard to believe that no one has thought of saving a map of just this pit anywhere so people could download it and build without all the hastle
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#1144 [11:18] <vegas> just play
#1145 [11:18] <vegas> i cant get on at all
#1146 [11:19] <xales> vegas: Press Win+R and type "cmd" in the box. Click Run. In that box, type 'ping minecraft.net' and hit enter
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#1148 [11:19] <xales> The first line will say "Pinging minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]"
#1149 [11:19] <xales> What are the numbers inside the box [ ]
#1150 [11:20] <Xerati> 127.0.0.1
#1151 [11:20] <Xerati> and the weird thing is, it returns porn
#1152 [11:21] <vegas> timed out
#1153 [11:21] <Xerati> same, actually
#1154 [11:21] <Xerati> vegas, does yours look like this
#1155 [11:21] <Xerati> Pinging minecraft.net [50.16.203.217] with 32 bytes of data:
#1156 [11:21] <Xerati> Request timed out.
#1157 [11:21] <vegas> yes
#1158 [11:21] <Xerati> same IP?
#1159 [11:22] <vegas> yep
#1160 [11:22] * Xerati waves@ xales
#1160 [11:22] <vegas> so what do we do?
#1161 [11:23] <xales> oh sorry
#1162 [11:23] <xales> blech
#1163 [11:23] <xales> vegas: It's "50.16.203.217"?
#1164 [11:23] <vegas> yes exactly
#1165 [11:24] <xales> are you running Window 7 or Vista?
#1166 [11:24] <vegas> vista
#1167 [11:24] <xales> bleh, ok
#1168 [11:24] <xales> close that window
#1169 [11:24] <Xerati> and uninstall vista
#1170 [11:24] <rkabir> xales — minecraft is actually down
#1171 [11:24] <Xerati> (jk on uninstalling vista)
#1172 [11:24] <xales> click Start -> go to All Programs -> Accessories -> Command Prompt (right click, and select Run As Administrator)
#1173 [11:25] <Xerati> for pinging?
#1174 [11:25] <xales> Xerati: no
#1175 [11:25] <Xerati> flushing?
#1176 [11:25] <xales> yes
#1177 [11:25] <Xerati> hmm
#1178 [11:26] <Xerati> same ip
#1179 [11:26] <Xerati> it's not his pc
#1180 [11:26] <vegas> timed out again
#1181 [11:26] <Xerati> it's minecraft.net
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#1184 [11:27] <xales> Xerati: It's usually just some instances
#1185 [11:27] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1186 [11:27] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1187 [11:27] <Xerati> usually a few refreshes fixes it
#1188 [11:28] <Xerati> but it's seemingly down hard atm
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#1190 [11:28] <TheNytangel> odd
#1191 [11:28] <TheNytangel> my computer shows i dont have internet >.>
#1192 [11:29] <Xerati> that's impressive
#1193 [11:29] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: and yet, you're on IRC
#1194 [11:29] <TheNytangel> yeah
#1195 [11:29] <Linguist> :O
#1196 [11:29] <TheNytangel> well, not like that. there is no computer with globe
#1197 [11:29] <TheNytangel> its not there
#1198 [11:29] <Linguist> Why
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#1200 [11:29] <TheNytangel> dunno
#1201 [11:29] <Linguist> Can you broswe internet?
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#1203 [11:29] <TheNytangel> yeah
#1204 [11:29] <Linguist> Should be no problem.
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#1206 [11:30] <DjM1zw1z> Stupid online wont work
#1207 [11:30] <Linguist> I don't get a globe by my network icon.
#1208 [11:30] <TheNytangel> i know its not a problem
#1209 [11:30] <Xerati> MAH INTERNETZ IS BROKED
#1210 [11:30] <TheNytangel> but its odd
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#1212 [11:30] <Linguist> DjM1zw1z: Minecraft multiplayer?
#1213 [11:30] <Voki> WTF is with MC ?
#1214 [11:30] <Voki> is it down?
#1215 [11:30] <DjM1zw1z> Ye
#1216 [11:30] <Linguist> MC.net is down...again?
#1217 [11:30] <DjM1zw1z> i get alot of Error And Cannot connect
#1218 [11:30] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: I have written a good implementation of your feature request, tested it, committed the code, and pushed it out.
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#1220 [11:30] <DjM1zw1z> Its so hard to login
#1221 [11:31] <xales> .vprotect
#1222 [11:31] <MCHelpBot> Enabling voice protection
#1223 [11:31] <DjM1zw1z> Then i cant go online
#1224 [11:31] <Linguist> I just saw a play error
#1225 [11:31] <Xerati> hopefully they're moving the login scripts
#1226 [11:31] <Xerati> to a better host
#1227 [11:31] <Linguist> IDk, I left my server and my client open for over 10 hrs, I just restarted my client and im having no problems.
#1228 [11:31] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: which one was that again?
#1229 [11:32] <DopeGhoti> also, re: mc.net downishness: 07:37 < mollstam> [07:34:13] Minecraft.net gone white.
#1230 [11:32] <DjM1zw1z> I try going online then it says Connect timed: Connect
#1231 [11:32] <Xerati> its' up
#1232 [11:32] <Linguist> Try connecting to my server
#1233 [11:32] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: smoothing the thickness of the crust (from surface to stone) instead of just using random numbers all the time.
#1234 [11:32] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: ah, cool. How's it looking?
#1235 [11:32] <Xerati> that means no cliffs?!
#1236 [11:33] <DopeGhoti> Xerati: no, that means geological strata
#1237 [11:33] <DjM1zw1z> Why cant i go online...
#1238 [11:33] <Mathuin> Xerati: I have cliffs if the real world has cliffs. ... that reminds me, I should make something like the Black Hills of South Dakota.
#1239 [11:33] <Xerati> ahh, great place
#1240 [11:33] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: it's actually noticable, which made me happy.
#1241 [11:33] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: \o/
#1242 [11:33] <Mathuin> It adds 5-10% to processing time and requires an additional type of file, but w/e
#1243 [11:34] <Mathuin> Oh, and I gracefully reduce it for water features.
#1244 [11:35] <Mathuin> Now if I can just find an elegant solution to the rotated-rectangles problem...
#1245 [11:38] <Xerati> rotated rectangles?
#1246 [11:39] <Mathuin> http://www.twilley.org/C10T/World3-Troy/
#1247 [11:40] <Mathuin> Look near the bottom.
#1248 [11:40] <Blood_display> Zzzzz
#1249 [11:41] <Xerati> you're just making it flat? :S
#1250 [11:41] <Blood_display> ...
#1251 [11:41] <Xerati> the lower part looks flat
#1252 [11:42] <Mathuin> The elevation dataset is rotated so it can be projected the same as the land cover.
#1253 [11:42] <Maariu5_> Notch! Upgrade your fucking servers!
#1254 [11:42] <Mathuin> The flat bits on either side down there on the bottom left and right are where there is no elevationd ata.
#1255 [11:42] <Mathuin> I apparently need to "ask for more elevation data". :_)
#1256 [11:42] <Xerati> gotchya
#1257 [11:42] <Xerati> and i just noticed where it's stone and not dirt, like in the upper left areas
#1258 [11:42] <Mathuin> The problem is I can't figure out how much more to ask for.
#1259 [11:43] <Mathuin> Yeah, this particular dataset doesn't have the new fix, I just did that last night and this morning.
#1260 [11:43] <ItsCriminal> DopeGhoti is the minecraft.net online?
#1261 [11:43] <ItsCriminal> i cant connect
#1262 [11:43] <Blood_display> ItsCriminal
#1263 [11:43] <Blood_display> I reseted my server
#1264 [11:43] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#1265 [11:43] <Mathuin> !isdown minecraft.net
#1266 [11:43] <GreyBot> Mathuin: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1267 [11:43] <Blood_display> If you come on, i'll make you OP again
#1268 [11:43] <Blood_display> kk?
#1269 [11:43] <Xerati> don't do it
#1270 [11:43] <Xerati> it's a trap
#1271 [11:44] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#1272 [11:44] <Blood_display> Crimnal come on
#1273 [11:44] <ItsCriminal> i cant right now
#1274 [11:44] <Blood_display> I'll meet yo on my server
#1275 [11:44] <Blood_display> Oh, k.
#1276 [11:44] <ItsCriminal> i have damn much to do
#1277 [11:45] <Blood_display> Guess what day this is-
#1278 [11:45] <ItsCriminal> thanks Mathuin
#1279 [11:45] <Mathuin> ItsCriminal: no problem!
#1280 [11:46] <Blood_display> It's PRESIDENT DAY
#1281 [11:46] <Mathuin> Blood_display: can't hear you, I'm at work. :-)
#1282 [11:47] <Blood_display> Day off for me. <3
#1283 [11:48] <Xerati> not for me :(
#1284 [11:48] <Xerati> i'm at work right now
#1285 [11:48] <Blood_display> Ha! I'm only 12.
#1286 [11:48] <Blood_display> I don't work till i'm 15 >:)
#1287 [11:49] <Linguist> im 12 and what is this
#1288 [11:49] <Xerati> i'm twice your age
#1289 [11:49] <vegas> whats the Nether Realm ?
#1290 [11:49] <Xerati> now i feel old
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#1292 [11:49] <Xerati> nether is...nether
#1293 [11:49] <Blood_display> Xeri let's see...12x2=..
#1294 [11:49] <Blood_display> Your 24!
#1295 [11:49] <Xerati> you're*
#1296 [11:49] <Xerati> stay in school
#1297 [11:49] <Blood_display> Yeah.
#1298 [11:49] <Blood_display> Don't worry I will.
#1299 [11:50] <Blood_display> Ugh, I hate learning fractions with deciamsl.
#1300 [11:50] <Blood_display> Let's see...0.6= sixth over tenths right?
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#1302 [11:52] <Blood_display> GreyVulpine:You therE?
#1303 [11:53] <Xerati> yes, or 3/5
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#1305 [11:54] <Blood_display> Well, it's 3/5 because we divide it some more right?
#1306 [11:54] <vegas> so is it up yet?
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#1308 [11:55] <Blood_display> Minecraft.net up
#1309 [11:55] <iBlitz> is the server down?
#1310 [11:55] <iBlitz> i can't seem to go on the website or start the game.
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#1312 [11:56] <xales> it works fine
#1313 [11:56] <iBlitz> im getting a weird message, 50 servlet exception.
#1314 [11:56] <iBlitz> 500*
#1315 [11:56] <iBlitz> mabye i should update my java?
#1316 [11:57] <xales> no, that wouldn't do that
#1317 [11:57] <xales> servlet exception = error on minecraft.net
#1318 [11:57] <xales> 500 = like 404
#1319 [11:57] <xales> but not
#1320 [11:57] <xales> anyway
#1321 [11:57] <iBlitz> kk so the servers down. XD
#1322 [11:57] <Maariu5_> Dudes
#1323 [11:57] <xales> just wait a little while
#1324 [11:57] <iBlitz> kk
#1325 [11:57] <xales> and try again
#1326 [11:57] <xales> though it works for me :P
#1327 [11:57] <iBlitz> ive allready waited like 10 min
#1328 [11:57] <Maariu5_> iM getting a million java errors when starting the server :(
#1329 [11:57] <Xerati> upgrade
#1330 [11:57] <iBlitz> java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections
#1331 [11:58] <iBlitz> also im getting htat
#1332 [11:58] <iBlitz> on the webpage.
#1333 [11:58] <Maariu5_> http://pastebin.com/3QR2MxWS
#1334 [11:58] <iBlitz> i think its time to update my java.
#1335 [11:58] <xales> iBlitz: you should have up-to-date Java, but those error aren't client side anyway
#1336 [11:58] <vegas> where do u get texture packs?
#1337 [11:58] <Maariu5_> java version "1.6.0_20"
#1338 [11:58] <Maariu5_> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.5) (6b20-1.9.5-0ubuntu1)
#1339 [11:58] <Maariu5_> OpenJDK Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)
#1340 [11:58] <Xerati> the internet
#1341 [11:58] <Xerati> AHHHHHH
#1342 [11:58] <vegas> lol
#1343 [11:58] <xales> Maariu5_: uhh, is that the official server?
#1344 [11:58] <Maariu5_> lol
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#1346 [11:58] <Xerati> no pasting spam
#1347 [11:58] <xales> because it doesn't look like it
#1348 [11:59] <vegas> i kinda figured that, but didnt know if there was a good link
#1349 [11:59] <Maariu5_> xales: Its a modified hMod
#1350 [11:59] <xales> that's probably the issue then
#1351 [11:59] <xales> run it without hMod, and see if it still does that
#1352 [11:59] <Maariu5_> It worked fine just before I rebooted the server.
#1353 [11:59] <Maariu5_> So I dont see why it should do that
#1354 [12:00] <xales> open the server.properties
#1355 [12:00] <xales> and change level-name to test
#1356 [12:00] <xales> and start the server again
#1357 [12:00] <Maariu5_> bloody mapshit
#1358 [12:00] <Maariu5_> I stopped the server in the middle of a creeper explosion
#1359 [12:00] <Maariu5_> That might have been the cause
#1360 [12:02] <Xerati> lol
#1361 [12:04] <Mathuin> Pigman: why do you use that as your name? I'm curious. :-)
#1362 [12:05] <xales> Mathuin: Pigmen were Miclee's idea
#1363 [12:05] <Mathuin> Wow, really? Awesome.
#1364 [12:05] <xales> Notch used to troll Miclee with his quit messages
#1365 [12:05] <Maariu5_> Vladimire: Come on Bender, you'll like being dead. Bender: That's what they said about being alive!
#1366 [12:06] <xales> stuff like "All good ideas. Except Pigmen"
#1367 [12:06] <Miclee> waht
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#1369 [12:07] <Maariu5_> Welcome, mr. Guest0495.. :P
#1370 [12:07] <Maariu5_> Iformative Name I must say
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#1374 [12:13] <Postoffice> ist here any status on when the minecraft cloud servers are gna be more stabile?
#1375 [12:14] <lyude> Are they still renovating the office with the servers?
#1376 [12:14] <xales> Postoffice: soon, hopefully
#1377 [12:14] <xales> lyude: the servers aren't in the office
#1378 [12:14] <lyude> oh
#1379 [12:14] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1380 [12:14] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1381 [12:14] <Postoffice> hope so, havnt gotten to play in like days, and i'm dying :P
#1382 [12:14] <xales> Postoffice: singleplayer in offline mode?
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#1384 [12:15] <Postoffice> tbh i have NEVER played Sp :P only mp :P
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#1390 [12:24] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1391 [12:24] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
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#1398 [12:35] <CTAsasin> Is anyone else having difficulties uploading a new skin? Before Beta I was making my own without any problems but after trying recently, it seems as if my original custom skin was deleted and I can't add a new one.
#1399 [12:36] <Mathuin> You know, someone could probably make some quick cash designing skins for people. Five or ten bucks to turn a picture into a PNG.
#1400 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> CTAsasin: re-upload in the minecraft web site and check in-game. displaying skins on the site is still broken.
#1401 [12:37] <CTAsasin> Will do, DopeFish thanks
#1402 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> \o
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#1405 [12:38] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> Do you guys know a map editor for Beta 1.2_02, where I can select all blocks of one type and delete them all with one click?!
#1406 [12:40] <DopeGhoti> you could try pymce maybe?
#1407 [12:40] <Mathuin> If you are comfortable with python, you could install pymclevel and run mce.py. Then you can basically delete all Lava or whatever.
#1408 [12:41] <LRWerewolf> xGhOsTkiLLeRx, One click, not quite. MCedit can do it in a few clicks though.
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#1410 [12:41] <Mathuin> I confess I've never done it with mcedit.
#1411 [12:41] <LRWerewolf> Load map, Ctrl-A to select the whole map, use the replace option of the fill tool, replace your search block with air.
#1412 [12:41] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> I know about McEdit, but found no option to select alle blocks of one type
#1413 [12:42] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> ok, I try it, thx
#1414 [12:44] <LRWerewolf> xGhOsTkiLLeRx, Of course, if you generate any new chunks while exploring, you may have to do it again since newly generated chunks will possibly contain the replaced type.
#1415 [12:45] <Mathuin> But if you've got say a forest fire this should help a little. :-)
#1416 [12:45] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> this shouldn't be a problem, I'm trying to delete all my chest from the bugs of Mo' Creatures, Humans+ & Death Chest
#1417 [12:45] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> and fire underwater is bad ;)
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#1420 [12:49] <raisin> hi huys
#1421 [12:49] <raisin> is anywone here ?
#1422 [12:49] <Linguist> Sup
#1423 [12:49] <raisin> Why is the website down ?
#1424 [12:49] <xales> because it's down...
#1425 [12:49] <raisin> xales you do kinda know me right
#1426 [12:49] <xales> and it's actually not down any more
#1427 [12:50] <raisin> been here more then once
#1428 [12:50] <raisin> and you know my problem
#1429 [12:50] <raisin> so i want to buy it again now
#1430 [12:50] <raisin> but cant acces it
#1431 [12:50] <raisin> (ow srry i used the enter as comma )
#1432 [12:51] <raisin> it keeps saying ( even now ) 500 Servlet Exception [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#1433 [12:51] <xales> ?? win/dns
#1434 [12:51] <VoxelHead> win/dns: To clear your DNS cache on Windows, you need to open a Command Prompt(cmd) window as Administrator (if using 7/Vista)
#1435 [12:51] <VoxelHead> win/dns: In this window, you type "ipconfig /flushdns" (without the quotes) and press enter.
#1436 [12:52] <raisin> and now ?
#1437 [12:53] <xales> see if it works
#1438 [12:53] <raisin> no
#1439 [12:53] <raisin> same error
#1440 [12:53] <raisin> but is command prompt same as just command ?
#1441 [12:54] <xales> yes
#1442 [12:54] <raisin> k let me try again
#1443 [12:54] <raisin> nope its still the same
#1444 [12:55] <xales> just wait then - it works fine for most people =\
#1445 [12:55] <Xerati> it's the site
#1446 [12:55] <Xerati> ITS THE INTERNETS
#1447 [12:55] <raisin> is it working fine for most peaple ?
#1448 [12:55] <xales> yes
#1449 [12:55] <Xerati> hmm
#1450 [12:55] <Xerati> !isdown minecraft.net
#1451 [12:55] <raisin> becuz i can restart my PC (again)
#1452 [12:55] <GreyBot> Xerati: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#1454 [12:56] <Xerati> raisin, it's up for a few seconds, hurry!
#1455 [12:56] <raisin> lol no its not :D
#1456 [12:56] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> don't worry, for me its down, too
#1457 [12:56] <Xerati> tisup
#1458 [12:56] <raisin> no its not
#1459 [12:57] <raisin> Xales should i restart my PC ?
#1460 [12:57] <Xerati> clear your cache
#1461 [12:57] <Xerati> cntrl+f5
#1462 [12:57] <raisin> cntrl five is close the window ?
#1463 [12:57] <raisin> F5*
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#1465 [12:58] <raisin> Damned
#1466 [12:58] <raisin> Xales any other ideas ?
#1467 [12:59] <xales> just wait
#1468 [12:59] <raisin> aww i became SuperOP on a classic server yesterday
#1469 [12:59] <raisin> :D
#1470 [13:01] <Xerati> no, cntrl f5 is clear cache and refresh
#1471 [13:01] <Xerati> alt-f4 is close
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#1473 [13:04] <wazzup80> does anyone know how to set rights on a server so people cant come on and build?
#1474 [13:04] <xales> You would use a mod for that
#1475 [13:04] <aetherian> yeah
#1476 [13:04] <xales> something like the Permissions plugin for the Bukkit mod
#1477 [13:04] <wazzup80> do you know of any mods i can do that with?
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#1479 [13:04] <aetherian> or just make it so that only people who can build can come on
#1480 [13:04] <aetherian> ie only tell friends ip
#1481 [13:05] <wazzup80> ok ill try bukkit
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#1483 [13:05] <wazzup80> thanks
#1484 [13:05] <Xerati> get bukkit, and check plugins
#1485 [13:05] <vegas3> yo yo yo
#1486 [13:05] <vegas3> is the game up yet?
#1487 [13:05] <xales> yes, the site is working now
#1488 [13:06] * aetherian wonders, "why don't people just try to log on to see?"
#1488 [13:06] <vegas3> its not
#1489 [13:06] <xales> it is for most people
#1490 [13:06] <vegas3> well wondering if it was something on my end aetherian
#1491 [13:07] <Xerati> it's you
#1492 [13:07] <vegas3> humm
#1493 [13:07] <vegas3> that sucks
#1494 [13:09] <vegas3> like when I log in it looks like its loading really fast and goes to a black screen
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#1496 [13:09] <mib_vrvzyw> is it down
#1497 [13:09] <xales> not any more
#1498 [13:09] <mib_vrvzyw> minecraft
#1499 [13:09] <xales> vegas3: that's actually a problem with your computer then
#1500 [13:09] <mib_vrvzyw> kool beings
#1501 [13:10] <LaCafe> hey guys... can someone tell me if its possible to register somewhere else? seems like this service on the hp isnt really workin'...=/
#1502 [13:10] <vegas3> humm what could it be
#1503 [13:10] <xales> LaCafe: what?
#1504 [13:10] <xales> vegas3: try this
#1505 [13:10] <mib_vrvzyw> 500 Servlet Exception on crhome
#1506 [13:10] <xales> ??> vegas3 win/reinst
#1507 [13:10] <VoxelHead> vegas3: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1508 [13:10] <VoxelHead> vegas3: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1509 [13:10] <xales> mib_vrvzyw: is this trying to play Classic?
#1510 [13:10] <LaCafe> its not possible to register via the homepage...
#1511 [13:11] <xales> LaCafe: register for what?
#1512 [13:11] <xales> Minecraft?
#1513 [13:11] <LaCafe> for minecraft...^^ to buy it or something...^^
#1514 [13:11] <raisin> anywone know why my cntrl + F is not working in internet explorer ?
#1515 [13:11] <xales> the servers just came back up - they were down for a bit, you might need to wait an hour or two
#1516 [13:11] <xales> raisin: because Internet Explorer is the worst browser that exists
#1517 [13:12] <xales> don't use it
#1518 [13:12] <raisin> I know but thaths the only one where my minecraft works atm :(
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#1520 [13:12] <mib_vrvzyw> 500 Servlet Exception on google crhome with vista
#1521 [13:12] <mib_vrvzyw> me or client
#1522 [13:12] <xales> mib_vrvzyw: are you trying to play classic?
#1523 [13:13] <mib_vrvzyw> normal
#1524 [13:13] <mib_vrvzyw> one
#1525 [13:13] <raisin> im trying google chrome atm to see if it works better then internet explorer
#1526 [13:13] <mib_vrvzyw> 1st one that comes up
#1527 [13:13] <xales> mib_vrvzyw: normal one?
#1528 [13:13] <mib_vrvzyw> on minecraft.net
#1529 [13:13] <xales> mib_vrvzyw: what is the URL you see 500 servlet exception at
#1530 [13:13] <xales> mib_vrvzyw: paste it here
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#1532 [13:14] <mib_vrvzyw> http://www.minecraft.net/
#1533 [13:14] <xales> just wait then
#1534 [13:14] <mib_vrvzyw> ?
#1535 [13:14] <mib_vrvzyw> ok kool
#1536 [13:14] <mib_vrvzyw> i was getting in
#1537 [13:15] <mib_vrvzyw> at times and then it would come back http://www.minecraft.net/
#1538 [13:15] <mib_vrvzyw> sevrlet 500
#1539 [13:15] <mib_vrvzyw> ty helpers ill do a lil work around the house and then come back and see
#1540 [13:16] <vegas3> 'theres no minecraft info in the appdata
#1541 [13:17] <xales> vegas3: are you sure?
#1542 [13:17] <xales> if you have played Minecraft, it's there
#1543 [13:17] <vegas3> i swear its not
#1544 [13:18] <Xerati> lies
#1545 [13:18] <xales> are you looking in the right place?
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#1547 [13:18] <vegas3> appdata right
#1548 [13:19] <xales> yes
#1549 [13:19] <Mathuin> Well, %appdata%, no?
#1550 [13:20] <xXPriesterXx> do you have the same probs at the moment, that minecraft is crashing the whole time?
#1551 [13:20] <vegas3> got it
#1552 [13:20] <vegas3> i left ou the %'s lol
#1553 [13:20] <xales> xXPriesterXx: "crashing"?
#1554 [13:20] <Mathuin> Very important. :-)
#1555 [13:20] <vegas3> ohh i see what happened
#1556 [13:20] <vegas3> when I opened it, after the dump
#1557 [13:20] * xales pokes DopeGhoti
#1557 [13:20] <raisin> Xales its working !!!
#1558 [13:20] <vegas3> it says theres a trojan horse in the files and it close's
#1559 [13:21] <xales> ._.
#1560 [13:21] <xales> vegas3: um...that's probably bad
#1561 [13:21] <xales> delete that :P
#1562 [13:21] <mib_vrvzyw> it izzzzz working
#1563 [13:21] <vegas3> i did
#1564 [13:23] <vegas3> so what do i do
#1565 [13:24] <vegas3> everytime I try to get in, it says theres a Trojan horse Crypt_c.FMC
#1566 [13:25] <Postoffice> what anitvirus are you using?
#1567 [13:25] <Mathuin> vega3: That's mentioned on the forums. Did you see the thread there?
#1568 [13:25] <vegas3> no i didnt
#1569 [13:25] <Mathuin> The person who reported the bug on the forums was using AVG 2010.
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#1572 [13:26] <vegas3> i am also
#1573 [13:26] <mib_vrvzyw> i hack bejewled
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#1575 [13:26] <Mathuin> Okay. Turns out some smartass marked lwjgl.dll as a virus with AVG.
#1576 [13:26] <mib_vrvzyw> and they as
#1577 [13:26] <mib_vrvzyw> ask
#1578 [13:26] <mib_vrvzyw> how
#1579 [13:26] <Mathuin> http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=a81e22e91c831bf3d60569b6a1d9b0e9bab283e20be819da8117dcbb731e07a2-1298292213
#1580 [13:26] <Mathuin> That shows that a bunch of other anti-virus folks don't think it's a virus.
#1581 [13:26] <Mathuin> If you need reassurance. :-)
#1582 [13:26] <Postoffice> so, if you disable AVG it migth work :)
#1583 [13:28] <Mathuin> I am curious as to what's going on in the source, but the odds of me seeing that are somewhat low.
#1584 [13:28] <xales> Mathuin: I know
#1585 [13:29] <xales> "OMG JAVA ITS A VIRUS OMG OMG OGM OGMOGJFNHEIHORIGHHRSEHGRIUGHRHGRHGG"
#1586 [13:29] <Mathuin> ... well, I was curious about what exactly in crypt.c made folks suspicious.
#1587 [13:29] <Mathuin> Or if it was "lol we hate minecraft" or what.
#1588 [13:29] <Xerati> it encrypts the virus so it's hidden
#1589 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> xales: eh?
#1590 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> someone call me?
#1591 [13:30] <Xerati> yeah baby
#1592 [13:31] <vegas3> so is that file same or what? or is it a actual virus
#1593 [13:31] <xales> It's not
#1594 [13:31] <xales> turn off AVG
#1595 [13:31] <xales> then try playing
#1596 [13:31] <AG_Scott> It's not a virus.
#1597 [13:31] <AG_Scott> False positive...
#1598 [13:32] <AG_Scott> Get kaspersky. I used it on windows.
#1599 [13:32] <Mathuin> There is probably a way to whitelist the dll.
#1600 [13:32] <Mathuin> I haven't used AVG in years to. :-(
#1601 [13:32] <Mathuin> tho.
#1602 [13:32] <AG_Scott> I like the russian software :D
#1603 [13:32] <vegas3> thats all we use here at work
#1604 [13:33] <AG_Scott> AVG Free?
#1605 [13:33] <vegas3> yes
#1606 [13:34] <vegas3> it gives me the option to ignore it so that would work right?
#1607 [13:34] <Mathuin> prolly
#1608 [13:34] <AG_Scott> Isn't that non-commercial only?
#1609 [13:34] <xales> no, it wouldn't
#1610 [13:34] <xales> you need to add an exception
#1611 [13:35] <xales> not just ignore
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#1613 [13:38] <Kealper> GreyVulpine!!!
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#1615 [13:39] <XaoMoaX> Hi. If I have more texture packs then it's displaying, how do I get it to scroll down?
#1616 [13:39] <Kealper> i've heard you can just scroll through with the mouse wheel...but i'm not sure
#1617 [13:40] <Kealper> Notch has said something about scrollbars in beta 1.3 (due out tomorrow)
#1618 [13:40] <vegas3> ok it dosent give me an option to add exception
#1619 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> seeing is believing.
#1620 [13:40] <XaoMoaX> ah, kk. So mousewheel doesn't work
#1621 [13:41] <XaoMoaX> for now then, I'll have to stick with whatever it displays on the screen?
#1622 [13:41] <Kealper> XaoMoaX: guess you're crap-outta-luck until tomorrow then :/
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#1624 [13:43] <vegas3> how do I add exception?
#1625 [13:43] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> THANK YOU, for the help with McEdit, now everything should be right! Great! TY all :)
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#1628 [13:46] <XaoMoaX> Crappin luck. But, yay for updates
#1629 [13:46] <XaoMoaX> anyword on what else he's adding?
#1630 [13:48] <RF> !isdown minecraft.net
#1631 [13:48] <GreyBot> RF: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1632 [13:48] <XaoMoaX> btw, texture packs = awesome. I love how there's so much variety
#1633 [13:49] <vegas3> where did u find them XaoMoaX
#1634 [13:49] <Mathuin> I do wish it wasn't a hack to use more than 16x16.
#1635 [13:51] <RF> Google
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#1637 [13:53] <XaoMoaX> I just googled minecraft texture packs
#1638 [13:53] <XaoMoaX> I reccomend the steampunk one
#1639 [13:53] <XaoMoaX> it's one of my favs
#1640 [13:53] <Mathuin> I think JohnBrown is my favorite.
#1641 [13:53] <Mathuin> Can't recall, it's at home.
#1642 [13:54] <XaoMoaX> Anyone have any idea what's in tomorrows update?
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#1645 [13:55] <wazzup80> ok so i installed bukkit and the Permissions plugin. How do i make it so only admins can build?
#1646 [13:55] <xolotl> wazzup80: #bukkit
#1647 [13:55] <wazzup80> ok
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#1650 [13:58] <a11an85> Hello
#1651 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#1652 [13:58] <lowfatenvelope> Anyone have any idea on what to do if you get a video card error? It says it most likely can be fixed by updating the drivers but when i do that my computer disables my card and i can't re-enable it without restoring my computer, which defeats the purpose
#1653 [13:58] <lowfatenvelope> any ideas?
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#1655 [13:58] <ItsCriminalAFK> hey when startting anf putting my details in it just says Error
#1656 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> lowfatenvelope: what video card?
#1657 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> ??> ItsCriminalAFK error
#1658 [13:59] <VoxelHead> ItsCriminalAFK: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message"
#1659 [13:59] <VoxelHead> ItsCriminalAFK: (error) we need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means;;If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#1660 [13:59] <lowfatenvelope> Nvidia Geforce 6800
#1661 [13:59] <ItsCriminalAFK> i would give you more but it does just say Error
#1662 [13:59] <Voki> MC down?
#1663 [13:59] <ItsCriminalAFK> want a screenshot?
#1664 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> lowfatenvelope: and when you install the latest drivers, they do not work? Have you tried uninstalling the old ones entirely and then installing the new ones?
#1665 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminalAFK: please.
#1666 [14:00] <lowfatenvelope> i've pretty much tried everything
#1667 [14:00] <lowfatenvelope> like
#1668 [14:00] <lowfatenvelope> when i pull the drivers
#1669 [14:00] <lowfatenvelope> from the website
#1670 [14:00] <lowfatenvelope> they install fine, and i restart my computer
#1671 [14:01] <ItsCriminalAFK> www.sapphira.org/error.jpg
#1672 [14:01] <lowfatenvelope> but then it goes haywire and my computer dosn't use the card
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#1674 [14:01] <ItsCriminalAFK> i allready clicked 100times on try again
#1675 [14:01] <lowfatenvelope> yes i've tried un-installing the card and re-installing it
#1676 [14:01] <lowfatenvelope> it used to work fine
#1677 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminalAFK: Can your computer get to www.minecraft.net in a browser?
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#1679 [14:02] <a11an85> I'm having an issue with joining servers, I have purchased the game, and have been playing on a few different servers. Now I cannot to any of them. After trying to connect a message comes up saying "Connection lost Failed to Login:Error"
#1680 [14:02] <lowfatenvelope> yes
#1681 [14:02] <ItsCriminalAFK> 500 Servlet Exception
#1682 [14:02] <ItsCriminalAFK> [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#1683 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminalAFK: you get that from the site?
#1684 [14:03] <ItsCriminalAFK> yes
#1685 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> lowfatenvelope: did you try uninstalling the drivers in Safe Mode?
#1686 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> ??> win/hosts > ItsCriminalAFK
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#1688 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> ??> ItsCriminalAFK > win/hosts
#1689 [14:03] <lowfatenvelope> hmmm no i didn't
#1690 [14:03] <vegas3> new launcher
#1691 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> ??> ItsCriminalAFK win/hosts
#1692 [14:03] <VoxelHead> ItsCriminalAFK: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1693 [14:03] <VoxelHead> ItsCriminalAFK: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1694 [14:03] * DopeGhoti cannot type today.
#1694 [14:04] <lowfatenvelope> should i try that?
#1695 [14:04] <vegas3> cant add excption
#1696 [14:04] <vegas3> at all
#1697 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> lowfatenvelope: yes, do; sometimes drivers leave cruft behind that windows is still using; safe mode prevents thtat
#1698 [14:04] <lowfatenvelope> ok ty
#1699 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> good luck
#1700 [14:04] <GriimZz> Hey, is GreyVulpine here?
#1701 [14:04] <lowfatenvelope> if that dosn't work should i come back here?
#1702 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> we'll still be here, lowfatenvelope (:
#1703 [14:05] <lowfatenvelope> ok :)
#1704 [14:05] <lowfatenvelope> wow that face scares me
#1705 [14:05] <lowfatenvelope> ;p;
#1706 [14:05] <lowfatenvelope> lol*
#1707 [14:05] <a11an85> Can anyone help me?
#1708 [14:05] <a11an85> I'm having an issue with joining servers, I have purchased the game, and have been playing on a few different servers. Now I cannot to any of them. After trying to connect a message comes up saying "Connection lost Failed to Login:Error"
#1709 [14:05] <xales> a11an85: what is your username?
#1710 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> a11an85: classic or beta?
#1711 [14:06] <a11an85> a11an85, beta
#1712 [14:06] <a11an85> a11an85
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#1714 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> !paid a11an85
#1715 [14:07] <rf`> Amazon is sleeping on the job
#1716 [14:07] <vegas3> YES!!!!!!!!!
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#1718 [14:07] <vegas3> just turn off resident shield for AVG
#1719 [14:08] <rf`> i don't use AVG :V
#1720 [14:08] <xales> vegas3: yes
#1721 [14:08] <ItsCriminalAFK> oh i had a game open DopeGhoti
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#1723 [14:08] <a11an85> So what do I do?
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#1725 [14:08] <minchedmeat> What is happening with minecraft?
#1726 [14:08] <Blood_display> Any OPS on?
#1727 [14:09] <ItsCriminalAFK> lol now login failed :D
#1728 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> ??> a11an85 win/reinst
#1729 [14:09] <VoxelHead> a11an85: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1730 [14:09] <VoxelHead> a11an85: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1731 [14:09] <Blood_display> Any OPS on?
#1732 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Blood_display: no.
#1733 [14:09] <ItsCriminalAFK> wooooohoooooo
#1734 [14:09] <Blood_display> !check 68.215.108.142
#1735 [14:09] <ItsCriminalAFK> my game just blocked minecraft to get out
#1736 [14:09] <Blood_display> Any OPS on?
#1737 [14:09] <a11an85> tty
#1738 [14:09] <minchedmeat> My computer just found a virus in the .minecraft folder? o.O
#1739 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> (and 'Ops' is not an acronym)
#1740 [14:10] <minchedmeat> When i login it says Error...?
#1741 [14:10] <a11an85> I delete that actual bin file, or everything that is in it?
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#1743 [14:11] <Blood_display> DopeGhoti: Please look at the PM I sented you.
#1744 [14:12] <Blood_display> -.-
#1745 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> Blood_display irc/dontpm
#1746 [14:13] <VoxelHead> Blood_display: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#1747 [14:13] <a11an85> Damnit! Deleting bin didn't work
#1748 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> Blood_display win/reinst
#1749 [14:13] <VoxelHead> Blood_display: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1750 [14:13] <a11an85> Still having the same issue.
#1751 [14:13] <VoxelHead> Blood_display: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1752 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> a11an85 win/profile
#1753 [14:13] <VoxelHead> a11an85: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1754 [14:13] <VoxelHead> a11an85: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1755 [14:13] <lowfatenvelope> i un-installed the card drivers under device manager, restarted, and it put them back on. Should i try to pull the Nvidia driver? All the other times i do it disables my card
#1756 [14:13] <ItsCriminalAFK> minchedmeat, i just had that too, i had to close my other game what i was playing, maybe stop some programs and try again ^^
#1757 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> lowfatenvelope: when your card is disabled, it still works; just in low-res mode, right?
#1758 [14:14] <Blood_display> Dope look at the PM I sent you
#1759 [14:14] <lowfatenvelope> ya i think, seeing as my MB dosn't have a built in card
#1760 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> ??> Blood_display irc/dontpm
#1761 [14:14] <VoxelHead> Blood_display: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#1762 [14:15] <lowfatenvelope> and i still get an image
#1763 [14:15] <Blood_display> VoelHead: Look at your PM
#1764 [14:15] <lowfatenvelope> wait ya it does
#1765 [14:15] <Blood_display> VoxelHead*
#1766 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> lowfatenvelope: okay, good; when your video card is running as a low-res generic VGA, then install the new drivers.
#1767 [14:15] <xales> LOL
#1768 [14:15] <xales> oh my god
#1769 [14:15] <lowfatenvelope> ok
#1770 [14:15] <xales> ?? voxel
#1771 [14:15] <xales> jesus
#1772 [14:15] <xales> what
#1773 [14:15] <xales> I added that
#1774 [14:15] <VoxelHead> For the ninth time, ask in public.
#1775 [14:15] <Blood_display> Xales: Look at your PM
#1776 [14:15] <xales> ?? voxelhead
#1777 [14:16] <xales> Blood_display: Ask. In. The. Channel.
#1778 [14:16] <a11an85> Well I can already tell you that it isn't my system. I'm able to play singleplayer, and I'm also able to play classic, the one through the website that is..
#1779 [14:16] <xales> ?? vh
#1780 [14:16] <xales> gah
#1781 [14:16] <xales> DopeGhoti
#1782 [14:16] <xales> what was the one about VoxelHead being a bot
#1783 [14:16] <xales> >.>
#1784 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> xales: irc/bots?
#1785 [14:16] <Blood_display> VoxelHead: When I try to enter my server it says "Fail Login:Erro"
#1786 [14:16] <Blood_display> How do I fix it?
#1787 [14:16] <xales> DopeGhoti: no..
#1788 [14:16] <a11an85> If I create a new profile, I still won't be able to access multiplayer
#1789 [14:16] <xales> it was just voxel or vh or something
#1790 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> xales: I don't see anything matching that description
#1791 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> a11an85: yes you will
#1792 [14:17] <a11an85> ok
#1793 [14:17] <lowfatenvelope> just to make sure... So i disable my card, then pull the drivers from Nvidia? Or do i disable it, then uninstall the current MS drivers, then pull the Nvidia drivers?
#1794 [14:18] <xales> ?? bot
#1795 [14:18] <xales> ?? vh
#1796 [14:18] <xales> ._.
#1797 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> lowfatenvelope: boot to save mode, uninstall drivers, reboot normally, install _new_ drivers.
#1798 [14:18] <xales> oh
#1799 [14:18] <xales> ?? irc/vh
#1800 [14:18] <VoxelHead> irc/vh: I am VoxelHead - a bot created to store information to be retrieved later, to assist in helping users.
#1801 [14:18] <a11an85> Well, just my luck. The websie is down.
#1802 [14:18] <lowfatenvelope> ok thx
#1803 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> lowfatenvelope: good luck
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#1805 [14:18] <BillyBobJohn> hey
#1806 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> stack.
#1807 [14:18] <BillyBobJohn> I cant log into any server
#1808 [14:18] <Blood_display> VoxelHead: Here's what the Erro looks like http://i51.tinypic.com/2yvrnt4.jpg
#1809 [14:19] <BillyBobJohn> is the master server mssed up or someething?
#1810 [14:19] <Blood_display> Xales: Here's what the erro looks like http://i51.tinypic.com/2yvrnt4.jpg
#1811 [14:19] <DeeWoo> yes, it's down
#1812 [14:19] <xales> BillyBobJohn: yes
#1813 [14:19] <a11an85> really?
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#1815 [14:19] <xales> Blood_display: VoxelHead is a bot...
#1816 [14:19] <xales> for the nth time
#1817 [14:20] <xales> also, the server is down
#1818 [14:20] <xales> just wait..
#1819 [14:20] <xales> as we've also said
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#1821 [14:20] <Blood_display> If I reset the server will it work?
#1822 [14:20] <xales> No
#1823 [14:20] <Blood_display> Than what do I do?
#1824 [14:20] <Blood_display> Is it because Minecraft is down?
#1825 [14:20] <xales> As I said
#1826 [14:21] <BillyBobJohn> xales, I came to ask. Thank you :)
#1827 [14:21] <xales> It's BECAUSE THE SERVER IS DOWN. JUST WAIT.
#1828 [14:21] <xales> ._.
#1829 [14:21] <Blood_display> Fine, fine.
#1830 [14:21] <Xerati> wait, the server is down?
#1831 [14:21] <xales> BillyBobJohn: no problem
#1832 [14:21] <BillyBobJohn> I did not know if it was, why I came to ask :D I have my aanswer, thank you!
#1833 [14:21] <Blood_display> ._.
#1834 [14:21] * Xerati hides from xales's wrath
#1834 [14:21] <xales> Xerati: minecraft.ne is broken again
#1835 [14:21] <Xerati> i know lol
#1836 [14:21] <Xerati> #mcchatter
#1837 [14:21] <Blood_display> Why is Minecraft always broken?
#1838 [14:21] <Xerati> because i'm ddosing it
#1839 [14:21] <xales> BillyBobJohn: I'm not annoyed with you, it's Blood_display who doesn't seem to listen >.>
#1840 [14:21] <Blood_display> o.O
#1841 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> Becuase Notch is a terrible person who never does anything of value.
#1842 [14:21] <j4mie> any idea how long the servers are going to be down?
#1843 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> (according to #MineCraft)
#1844 [14:22] <Blood_display> Well, sorry....i'm during something atm.
#1845 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> j4mie: usually less than a few hours.
#1846 [14:22] <a11an85> I didn't know the servers have been down for about 3 days.
#1847 [14:22] <j4mie> thanks DopeGhoti
#1848 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> a11an85: Well, like any intermittent issue, they go down, then come back up again.
#1849 [14:22] <a11an85> Because thats how long my problem has been going on for.
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#1851 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> This will (should) all be solved when they finally move to Rackspace.
#1852 [14:23] <Blood_display> Jesus Christ, now that thing says "Connetion Lost"
#1853 [14:23] <Blood_display> With a URL
#1854 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> Blood_display mc.net/down
#1855 [14:23] <VoxelHead> Blood_display: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1856 [14:23] <VoxelHead> Blood_display: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1857 [14:24] <a11an85> alright, thanks for the help everyone.
#1858 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> a11an85: That's why we're here!
#1859 [14:24] <Blood_display> Zzzzzzz
#1860 [14:24] <Blood_display> Zzzzzzz
#1861 [14:24] <Blood_display> *Sleeps*
#1862 [14:24] <Blood_display> Guys, i'll rbb.
#1863 [14:24] <Blood_display> Time to practice HTML
#1864 [14:24] <VoxelHead> Keep spamming, Blood, and be banned. It's a pretty easy deal.
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#1866 [14:27] <Blood_display> Zzzz...I'm bored.
#1867 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Blood_display: read a book.
#1868 [14:28] <xales> DopeGhoti: http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/tao-of-programming.html
#1869 [14:29] <xales> and http://catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/
#1870 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> xales: familiar with both.
#1871 [14:29] <xales> \o/
#1872 [14:29] <ItsCriminalAFK> ahh damn site is down and i cant play :D
#1873 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminalAFK: they're on it.
#1874 [14:30] <BurnZeZ> !paid burnzez
#1875 [14:30] <ItsCriminalAFK> yeah no problem D:
#1876 [14:30] <BurnZeZ> Lies.
#1877 [14:30] <aetherian> huh nguh bwah
#1878 [14:30] * DopeGhoti points at Mojang's twitterfeeds
#1878 [14:30] <aetherian> hey guys
#1879 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> hey guy.
#1880 [14:30] <BurnZeZ> hey ladies
#1881 [14:31] <aetherian> hey lady
#1882 [14:31] <BurnZeZ> I don't like where this is going.
#1883 [14:31] <aetherian> hey freaks
#1884 [14:31] <aetherian> aww, nobody said "hey freak"
#1885 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> Salutations, alleged sentient.
#1886 [14:34] <aetherian> nuq hu
#1887 [14:34] <Blood_display> Anyone here remember me? O;
#1888 [14:34] * aetherian facepalms
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#1889 [14:35] <aetherian> QIp
#1890 [14:35] <lowfatenvelope> hmmmmm it still didn't work
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#1892 [14:35] <xales> ?? mc.net/down
#1893 [14:35] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1894 [14:35] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1895 [14:36] <Blood_display> fdffdfdf
#1896 [14:36] <Blood_display> dfdfd
#1897 [14:36] <Blood_display> o.O
#1898 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> !kick Blood_display
#1899 [14:36] * AuBot kicked Blood_display from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by DopeGhoti with reason: None given.))
#1900 [14:36] <bugweiser> voxel, if I hit play offline what is the difference
#1901 [14:36] <xales> DopeGhoti: nobody gets it
#1902 [14:36] <xales> VOXELHEAD IS A BOT
#1903 [14:36] <xales> ._.
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#1905 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> bugweiser: You will be able to play single-player, but most servers will reject you.
#1906 [14:36] <bugweiser> lol sorry I just joined and im tired
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#1908 [14:37] <Blood_display> Yeah, the weakest link. .-.
#1909 [14:37] <bugweiser> alright but I have my own server
#1910 [14:37] <aetherian> SoQmoH Hu' blood_display
#1911 [14:37] <lowfatenvelope> my graphics card has an error now =(
#1912 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> lowfatenvelope: what error?
#1913 [14:37] <bugweiser> if I hit play offline and my friend can join it deletes the player.dat and our inventories are empty
#1914 [14:37] <lowfatenvelope> Code 43
#1915 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: My Klingon's a but rusty.
#1916 [14:37] <bugweiser> is there anyway to load the player.dat?
#1917 [14:38] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: I only have a few terms memorized
#1918 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> bugweiser: not if you're "offline"; when you are, your player name is Player.
#1919 [14:38] <Blood_display> Is GreyVulpine here?
#1920 [14:38] <bugweiser> ah alright
#1921 [14:38] <aetherian> Blood_display: maybe
#1922 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> What difference does it make?
#1923 [14:38] <bugweiser> dopeghoti: say I mine stuff and put it in my bin will it save the world and also the items in the bin?
#1924 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> bugweiser: yes.
#1925 [14:39] <bugweiser> alright
#1926 [14:39] <FinalBlow> Is Minecraft coming back?
#1927 [14:39] <xales> ...
#1928 [14:39] <xales> as you have been told numerous times
#1929 [14:39] <xales> JUST. WAIT.
#1930 [14:39] <bugweiser> one more question though, if I log off with items in my inventory what will happen when I log back in?
#1931 [14:39] <FinalBlow> Xales, just asking.
#1932 [14:39] <FinalBlow> -.-
#1933 [14:39] <aetherian> xales: nowai. that's for patient people/
#1934 [14:39] <xales> bugweiser: they will still be there
#1935 [14:39] <bugweiser> logging back in when minecraft.net is up and I can log in with my account info
#1936 [14:40] <aetherian> *.
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#1938 [14:40] <bugweiser> will it overwrite my old player.dat?
#1939 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> bugweiser: If you are still "offline", you'll be as you were. If you're online when you reconnect, you'll be where you were when last logged in.
#1940 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> bugweiser: no, your normal playername.dat will be safe.
#1941 [14:40] <bugweiser> ah alright
#1942 [14:40] <bugweiser> thanks much
#1943 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1944 [14:40] <bugweiser> seeya
#1945 [14:41] <FinalBlow> >.>
#1946 [14:41] <FinalBlow> I'm gonna go mess with iCraft's screipts.
#1947 [14:41] <FinalBlow> scripts*
#1948 [14:41] <FinalBlow> Brb.
#1949 [14:42] <lowfatenvelope> ack
#1950 [14:43] <lowfatenvelope> anyone know how to do a system restore? (not reload)
#1951 [14:44] <aetherian> what OS?
#1952 [14:44] <lowfatenvelope> Windows 7
#1953 [14:44] <aetherian> open up the start menu thing
#1954 [14:44] <aetherian> and type "system restore"
#1955 [14:45] <lowfatenvelope> cool thx lol
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#1957 [14:46] <Delia> If you want to see something beautiful and special just click here
#1958 [14:46] <Delia> http://www.freewebs.com/extracash-foryou/
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#1960 [14:46] * lyude clicks
#1960 [14:46] * lyude gets extra cash, profits, and wins at life
#1960 [14:46] <lyude> \o/
#1961 [14:46] <lyude> loljk
#1962 [14:46] <Xerati> ty
#1963 [14:46] <lyude> ^
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#1965 [14:48] <BarryCarlyon> Freebwes is still going?
#1966 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> come again?
#1967 [14:48] <xales> DopeGhoti: derp
#1968 [14:48] <Mogen> Hi
#1969 [14:48] <BarryCarlyon> I'm surprised Freewebs is still going :-D
#1970 [14:48] <xales> I'm already in nameless network assistance channel about that :P
#1971 [14:49] <Mogen> how to do i make a server that isnt a ip (address)
#1972 [14:49] <Mogen> like its a website
#1973 [14:49] <BarryCarlyon> http://dyndns.org/
#1974 [14:49] <BarryCarlyon> Mogen: ^^
#1975 [14:49] <xales> Mogen: do you mean something like my.server.com can be used as the IP?
#1976 [14:49] <Mogen> sure
#1977 [14:49] <xales> you just need to buy a domain
#1978 [14:49] <Mogen> got it
#1979 [14:49] <xales> and set an A Record or CNAME to the IP of the server
#1980 [14:49] <Mogen> i dont know how to
#1981 [14:49] <Mogen> ohh
#1982 [14:49] <Mogen> OHH
#1983 [14:49] <Mogen> thanks alot!
#1984 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> And with that, Mogen was Enlightened.
#1985 [14:50] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#1986 [14:50] <BarryCarlyon> YAY
#1987 [14:50] <Mogen> lol
#1988 [14:50] <xales> DopeGhoti: :)
#1989 [14:50] <xales> aah
#1990 [14:50] <xales> something noticed me
#1991 [14:50] <xales> gah what was it
#1992 [14:50] * DopeGhoti is observant.
#1992 [14:50] <Mogen> why is there like aline
#1993 [14:50] <Mogen> a line inbetween some text
#1994 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: it lets you know where you were when you switched to another tab
#1995 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> (so that you can keep track of multiple channels more easily)
#1996 [14:51] <Mogen> wait what
#1997 [14:51] <Mogen> hmm
#1998 [14:53] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1999 [14:53] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2000 [14:53] <Mogen> hey whats vpn stand for again
#2001 [14:54] <Eman> So I have a minecraft server - and monsters are enabled, they spawn above ground just fine, but for some reason they don't spawn deep below ground at all?
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#2003 [14:54] <Mogen> how do i m
#2004 [14:54] <Mogen> make the health in my server unlimited
#2005 [14:54] <Eman> is this a known issue with certain plugins?
#2006 [14:54] <Mogen> like you cant die
#2007 [14:54] <Eman> my server is running bukkit.
#2008 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> Eman mods
#2009 [14:54] <VoxelHead> Eman: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2010 [14:54] <VoxelHead> Eman: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2011 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: Virtual Private Network
#2012 [14:54] <Eman> thanks DopeGhoti
#2013 [14:55] <ItsCriminalAFK> gogogo MC :D
#2014 [14:55] <raisin> Xales
#2015 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: and IIRC, you can't make health infinite on non-modded servers presently
#2016 [14:55] <raisin> is there a way thath you can mod like a pickaxe so it doesnt brake ?
#2017 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> raisin mods
#2018 [14:56] <VoxelHead> raisin: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2019 [14:56] <VoxelHead> raisin: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2020 [14:56] <Mogen> lol ima use dyndns
#2021 [14:56] <Mogen> hey for the dyndns pro, it gives you free domains?
#2022 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: they provide good service.
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#2024 [14:57] <Mogen> wait so if you purchase pro, you get a domain right?
#2025 [14:57] <Mogen> cuz i dont want people typing in like .dyndns.org
#2026 [14:57] <Mogen> etc
#2027 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> you get free subdomains of their free domains (e. g. dyndns.org); you still have to register for an actual domain if you want one.
#2028 [14:57] <Mogen> how much for a domain name
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#2030 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> Depends on what TLD and whence you register it.
#2031 [14:57] <Mogen> nvm 15 a year
#2032 [14:58] <Mogen> thats ok
#2033 [14:58] <Mogen> so 30 a year
#2034 [14:58] <Mogen> with pro
#2035 [14:58] <Mogen> pretty good price
#2036 [14:58] <Mogen> does the host services work immedidately
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#2038 [14:59] <BillyBobJohn> server still messed up?
#2039 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: not _immediately_ but usually within an hour
#2040 [14:59] <Mogen> what server
#2041 [14:59] <Mogen> ok
#2042 [14:59] <xales> I think it just came up again
#2043 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> BillyBobJohn: per Mojang, give it ~10 minutes
#2044 [14:59] <BillyBobJohn> great
#2045 [14:59] <BillyBobJohn> (who is mojang?)
#2046 [14:59] <Mogen> the company
#2047 [15:00] <Mogen> who made mine
#2048 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> the company that makes Minecraft?
#2049 [15:00] <BillyBobJohn> ah
#2050 [15:00] <BillyBobJohn> k
#2051 [15:00] <Mogen> lol
#2052 [15:00] <Mogen> nope server still off
#2053 [15:00] <BillyBobJohn> I paid them euros. I dont need to know their name!
#2054 [15:00] <Mogen> its kinda like
#2055 [15:00] <Mogen> activision
#2056 [15:00] <Mogen> made call of duty
#2057 [15:00] <BillyBobJohn> I bought minecraft after seeing a funny youtube video
#2058 [15:00] <Mogen> lol
#2059 [15:00] <Mogen> i got it cuz i was like heres 50$ mom
#2060 [15:00] <Mogen> lol
#2061 [15:01] <Emmitt> So wich difficulty has the most monsters? I wanna put my traps to the test
#2062 [15:01] <BillyBobJohn> I wish I remember the movie...
#2063 [15:01] <Mogen> hard
#2064 [15:01] <Mogen> i think
#2065 [15:01] <BillyBobJohn> it was live action
#2066 [15:01] <xales> Emmitt: none of them
#2067 [15:01] <xales> they all have the same number, except peaceful
#2068 [15:02] <xales> monsters have more health, as you increase difficulty
#2069 [15:02] <Emmitt> =o
#2070 [15:02] <Mogen> how do u allow public players to modify the land
#2071 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: have them walk away from the spawn area.
#2072 [15:02] <BillyBobJohn> haha this was it: http://www.youtube.com/user/CorridorDigital#p/u/0/8uyxVmdaJ-w
#2073 [15:02] <BillyBobJohn> the last minecart
#2074 [15:02] <Mogen> oh
#2075 [15:02] <Mogen> lol
#2076 [15:02] <BillyBobJohn> I thought Minecraft was stupid, but that movie decided to make me try the free version.....
#2077 [15:02] <BillyBobJohn> I bought it within an hour :D
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#2079 [15:02] <Mogen> lol
#2080 [15:02] <Mogen> coridor
#2081 [15:03] <Mogen> digital
#2082 [15:03] <Mogen> heh
#2083 [15:03] <Mogen> nice effects
#2084 [15:03] <Mogen> DIAMOND ARMOR
#2085 [15:03] <Mogen> :D
#2086 [15:03] <Mogen> lol hes being eaten
#2087 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> hmm. MC.net may be back down again.
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#2089 [15:03] <Mogen> that is sick
#2090 [15:04] <Mogen> shotgun xD
#2091 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> (ProTip: Watching the twitter feeds of Mojang staff is insightul)
#2092 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> (and also insightful)
#2093 [15:04] <Mogen> how do u gegt shotguns in minecraft
#2094 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: mods.
#2095 [15:04] <pouniiechier> Help, I cannot play offline.
#2096 [15:04] <Mogen> lol
#2097 [15:05] <Mogen> get ak47 with mods xD
#2098 [15:05] <Mogen> creeper
#2099 [15:05] <xales> pouniiechier: "can't"
#2100 [15:05] <xales> ?? specific
#2101 [15:05] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2102 [15:05] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2103 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> ninja'd.
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#2105 [15:06] <pouniiechier> When I click play offline the launcher closes.
#2106 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> ??> pouniiechier win/reinst
#2107 [15:06] <VoxelHead> pouniiechier: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2108 [15:06] <VoxelHead> pouniiechier: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2111 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> Good news, everyone! Mollstam asserts that the site should be back up!
#2112 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/up
#2113 [15:12] <VoxelHead> mc.net/up: There are presently no problems that we are aware of with Minecraft, its web site, or it's authentication server(s).
#2114 [15:12] <mollstam> Lies!
#2115 [15:12] <mollstam> :o
#2116 [15:12] <mollstam> oh wait
#2117 [15:12] <Zerim> hai
#2118 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2119 [15:12] <Zerim> >_>
#2120 [15:12] <Zerim> hm. MC crashed.
#2121 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Zerim: drive it more carefully, and with less alcohol.
#2122 [15:13] <Zerim> http://screencast.com/t/ADQXQH4j7B1u
#2123 [15:13] <Zerim> Wut do
#2124 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> first, realize that there is no 'u' in 'what'.
#2125 [15:14] <aetherian> there's an "a"/
#2126 [15:14] <aetherian> as in. "wat do?"
#2127 [15:14] <Zerim> HOW DO
#2128 [15:14] <RF> Correctly
#2129 [15:14] <RF> As preference
#2130 [15:14] <pouniiechier> What does "Error: Play online once to enable offline" mean?
#2131 [15:15] <aetherian> it means
#2132 [15:15] <aetherian> to play once online
#2133 [15:15] <aetherian> in order to play offline
#2134 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> pouniiechier - Means either you didn't pay for minecraft and pirated it, or your computer isn't able to make a connection to minecraft's servers
#2135 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> pouniiechier: it means you have to have successfully authenticated and downloaded the client binaries at least once in order to play offline.
#2136 [15:16] <pouniiechier> What do i do? How can i play?
#2137 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> First off, did you pay for minecraft?
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#2139 [15:16] <pouniiechier> yes
#2140 [15:16] <aetherian> he can't right now, though.
#2141 [15:16] <aetherian> mc's down
#2142 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: really?
#2143 [15:16] <aetherian> last I checked...
#2144 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft's up for me
#2145 [15:17] <ZenMaster> I just tried to log in 10 secs ago, and it didnt work
#2146 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#2147 [15:17] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2148 [15:17] * aetherian looks again, he looked recently
#2148 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> mollstam: "too many connections" again, still.
#2149 [15:17] <aetherian> yepyep
#2150 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Or just was
#2151 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/down
#2152 [15:18] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#2153 [15:18] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#2154 [15:18] <aetherian> ?? !
#2155 [15:18] * ZenMaster sits and waits
#2155 [15:18] <mollstam> Have faith! \o/
#2156 [15:19] <Zerim> I do. For the most part.
#2157 [15:19] <aetherian> |o|
#2158 [15:19] * DopeGhoti has faith, hope, _and_ charity.
#2158 [15:19] * Zerim slaps DopeGhoti around a bit with a small trout.
#2158 [15:19] * DopeGhoti stabs Zerim with a real IRC client.
#2158 [15:19] <Zerim> /mirc
#2159 [15:19] * Zerim flexes
#2159 [15:19] <aetherian> mirc
#2160 [15:19] <aetherian> lol
#2161 [15:19] <Zerim> just kidding
#2162 [15:19] <Zerim> lol
#2163 [15:19] <aetherian> lolmirc
#2164 [15:20] <Zerim> http://screencast.com/t/loJY4x3W
#2165 [15:20] <Zerim> can't get any bigger, 1920x1200 res
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#2168 [15:22] <aetherian> mirc is really quite annoying
#2169 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: not as much as mibbit.
#2170 [15:22] <aetherian> (not the most annoyinf at least)
#2171 [15:23] <aetherian> and man, those people using irssi...
#2172 [15:23] <aetherian> :P
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#2174 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: at least I'm not using BitchX
#2175 [15:23] <SkiingPenguins> i use nettalk
#2176 [15:23] <aetherian> BitchX?
#2177 [15:23] <Zerim> Visiiri, baby come back, you can blame it all on me
#2178 [15:23] <Zerim> just kidding blame it on them
#2179 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: not netcat? I am disappointed.
#2180 [15:23] <SkiingPenguins> no you're not
#2181 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> No, I'm not.
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#2183 [15:24] <MDanz> hi
#2184 [15:24] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#2185 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> 'lo.
#2186 [15:24] <MDanz> GreyVulpine u busy?
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#2188 [15:25] <MDanz> GreyVulpine
#2189 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> MDanz: you do realize that others here can help, right?
#2190 [15:25] <MDanz> you know how to use bukkit?
#2191 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> MDanz mods
#2192 [15:25] <VoxelHead> MDanz: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2193 [15:25] <VoxelHead> MDanz: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2194 [15:25] <MDanz> but i trust GreyVulpine mroe
#2195 [15:25] <MDanz> more*
#2196 [15:26] <aetherian> ugh GreyVulpine.
#2197 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> I have an idea! Let's play "don't needlessly ping people"! I'll go first.
#2198 [15:26] <aetherian> okay!
#2199 [15:26] <SkiingPenguins> SkiingPenguins!
#2200 [15:26] <aetherian> I go second, DopeGhoti!
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#2202 [15:28] <Zerim> I should remember to give mollstam a cookie cake.
#2203 [15:28] <mollstam> that sounds awesome
#2204 [15:30] <BillyBobJohn> I am not on my desk top. Today, trying to play on my laptop. Any idea why it runs WHEN slower when I play multiplayer, as opposed to single?
#2205 [15:31] <xales> network lag
#2206 [15:31] <BillyBobJohn> I dont see why,. I have a great connection
#2207 [15:31] <xales> laptop
#2208 [15:31] <xales> wifi
#2209 [15:31] <xales> not great
#2210 [15:31] <BillyBobJohn> Its letting me get 300+kbps on downloads
#2211 [15:31] <BillyBobJohn> its a great wireless connection
#2212 [15:31] <xales> upload is more important
#2213 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> also, throughput != latency
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#2215 [15:33] <Emmitt> How does a creeper survive during the day?
#2216 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> Emmitt: by not being allergic to Vitamin D?
#2217 [15:33] <Emmitt> No
#2218 [15:33] <Emmitt> I'm really curious
#2219 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> How does a creeper survive being make of TNT?
#2220 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> s/k/d/
#2221 [15:34] <Emmitt> Because I was out during the middle of the day and then all of a sudden: Sss-BOOM
#2222 [15:35] <Emmitt> And creepers are not made of TNT.
#2223 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> Emmitt: Seriously, creepers are not destroyed by sunlight.
#2224 [15:35] <Emmitt> Sulpher is not in TNT
#2225 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> It is in Minecraftian physics.
#2226 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> TNT is made of sulphur and sand.
#2227 [15:36] <Emmitt> ok. How you make TNT is like how you make dynamite, and uses an ingredient that isn't in either.
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#2229 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> Dynamite? No such thing.
#2230 [15:37] <Mogen> is the server up yet
#2231 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: kinda.
#2232 [15:37] <Mogen> what do u mean
#2233 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> [13:32:07] Still some login issues.
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#2235 [15:38] <fizyplankton> hey, before the new update, AVG said lwjgl.dll(i think) was infected, and it moved it to the virus vault. now i cant get past the launcher. it just black screen on login. is there any way to force a redownload of all files???
#2236 [15:38] <Mogen> yeah it dosent work yet
#2237 [15:38] <xales> fizyplankton: indeed there is
#2238 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> ??> fizyplankton reinst/win
#2239 [15:38] <xales> ??> fizyplankton win/reinst
#2240 [15:38] <VoxelHead> fizyplankton: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2241 [15:38] <fizyplankton> ??????
#2242 [15:38] <VoxelHead> fizyplankton: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2243 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> (heh.)
#2244 [15:38] <Mogen> how do u install mods
#2245 [15:38] <xales> ?? mods
#2246 [15:38] <Mogen> and stuff
#2247 [15:38] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2248 [15:38] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2249 [15:38] <fizyplankton> thx guys
#2250 [15:38] <fizyplankton> thx a ton
#2251 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: follow the reinstall instructions above.
#2252 [15:39] <TheTolpan> hey i have a problem since saturday anyone here have some time to help me?
#2253 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> TheTolpan: If you're able to be more specific; probably.
#2254 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#2255 [15:39] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2256 [15:39] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2258 [15:40] <fizyplankton> great. it cant connect to mcnet to log me oin
#2259 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> fizyplankton: give it a minute, Mojang is tinkering with the servers.
#2260 [15:40] <fizyplankton> i managed to downkload the new client 2 minutes ago thop
#2261 [15:40] <TheTolpan> ok i´ve bought the game saturday at 5 o clock and since then the launcher says to me user not premium, what could be the problem?
#2262 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> TheTolpan: see above
#2263 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheTolpan mc.net/down
#2264 [15:40] <VoxelHead> TheTolpan: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#2265 [15:40] <VoxelHead> TheTolpan: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#2266 [15:41] <Mogen> is voxelhead a bot
#2267 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#2268 [15:41] <Mogen> lol
#2269 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> (can you tell?)
#2270 [15:41] <Mogen> yeah
#2271 [15:41] <Mogen> lol
#2272 [15:42] <Mogen> it types like
#2273 [15:42] <Mogen> auito
#2274 [15:42] <Mogen> auto
#2275 [15:42] <Mogen> n' stuff
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#2277 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> that's kinda the point.
#2278 [15:42] <Mogen> gretbot is another bot lol
#2279 [15:42] <Mogen> greybot*
#2280 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> Wait, GreyBot's not a person! I'm shocked. shocked!
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#2284 [15:44] <Mogen> can someone tell me all the admin commands for the minecraft server
#2285 [15:44] <fizyplankton> ./?
#2286 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: on the console, type 'help' for a list.
#2287 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Type "help" in the console
#2288 [15:44] <fizyplankton> that will give you thema ll
#2289 [15:44] <Mogen> is that it?
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#2291 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> That is it.
#2292 [15:44] <Demiguru> uh, hey
#2293 [15:44] <Mogen> how do people like put signs when they join the server
#2294 [15:44] <Mogen> saying like
#2295 [15:44] <Mogen> weelcome
#2296 [15:44] <Mogen> to
#2297 [15:44] <xales> Mogen: with mods
#2298 [15:44] <xales> also, don't use enter as a comma
#2299 [15:44] <Demiguru> i have not cahnged my password and for some reason i cannt connect to minecraft
#2300 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: build signs, place sign.
#2301 [15:45] <Mogen> oh
#2302 [15:45] <xales> ?? mc.net/down
#2303 [15:45] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#2304 [15:45] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#2305 [15:45] <Mogen> like in that chatbar
#2306 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> Mogen: ah, that'd be a mod.
#2307 [15:45] <Demiguru> you voxelhead
#2308 [15:45] <Mogen> oh
#2309 [15:45] <xales> ?? irc/vh
#2310 [15:45] <VoxelHead> irc/vh: I am VoxelHead - a bot created to store information to be retrieved later, to assist in helping users.
#2311 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> no, me DopeGhoti.
#2312 [15:45] <Mogen> lol
#2313 [15:45] <Mogen> xales all you do is type the code xD
#2314 [15:45] <xales> of course
#2315 [15:45] <Mogen> let the bot do all the work
#2316 [15:45] <Mogen> uh
#2317 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> that's why I built it.
#2318 [15:46] <Mogen> what mod can do that
#2319 [15:46] <Mogen> u made it
#2320 [15:46] <xales> Mogen, many of them
#2321 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> ??> Mogen mods
#2322 [15:46] <xales> look at Bukkit
#2323 [15:46] <VoxelHead> Mogen: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2324 [15:46] <Mogen> what site
#2325 [15:46] <VoxelHead> Mogen: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2326 [15:46] <smellme2> xales: when I click to play offline, the launcher shutsdown after turning black for a few seconds. How can I fix this?
#2327 [15:46] <xales> ??> smellme2 win/reinst
#2328 [15:46] <VoxelHead> smellme2: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2329 [15:46] <VoxelHead> smellme2: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2330 [15:47] <VoxelHead> soon, all questions will flow through me. Today, #MineCraftHelp; tomorrow the world! Mwahahahaha! Shit, did I type that out loud?
#2331 [15:47] <smellme2> I already tried that xales, but then when I try to click play offline it is greyed out
#2332 [15:47] <AG_Scott> xales, don't you get tired of helping random people?
#2333 [15:47] <xales> smellme2: as the thing says, you need to have logged in first then
#2334 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> smellme2: if 'play offline' is greyed out, you need to successfully login at least once
#2335 [15:47] <xales> AG_Scott: Nothing else to do
#2336 [15:47] <smellme2> but I can't log in because minecraft.net is down
#2337 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> Exactly. Give it some time.
#2338 [15:48] <smellme2> alright
#2339 [15:48] <Demiguru> i have a non technical question
#2340 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#2341 [15:48] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2342 [15:48] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2344 [15:49] <Octocraft> Hi!
#2345 [15:49] <xales> hi
#2346 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#2347 [15:49] <Octocraft> #risucraft
#2348 [15:49] <smellme2> dopeghoti: if it makes a difference I already have played on my account plenty of times, so why is it telling me to log in?
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#2350 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> (for the record: [13:47:26] Took site offline, will focus on getting login for player online first.)
#2351 [15:49] <xales> smellme2: you probably deleted the file that saves that you have logged in
#2352 [15:49] <Demiguru> what software would you use to import a 2d picture to make a 3d wireframe model in order to get schematics for megaobjects?
#2353 [15:50] <xales> Demiguru: ask in #risucraft
#2354 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> Demiguru: AutoCAD?
#2355 [15:50] <smellme2> xales: what file might that be?
#2356 [15:50] <xales> smellme2: uhh, I don't remember the name off the top of my head
#2357 [15:50] <smellme2> anyone else know what file saves that you logged in
#2358 [15:50] <smellme2> or at least where it is located
#2359 [15:51] <Demiguru> autocad... i wish i had thought of that. thank you
#2360 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/.minecraft
#2361 [15:51] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#2362 [15:51] <smellme2> guess ill look there
#2363 [15:52] <smellme2> actually xales this is probably a dumb idea but is it possible for my friend to send me his .miinecraft folder so it has that file in it
#2364 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> smellme2: not allowed.
#2365 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> smellme2: it explicitly says "Do not distribute".
#2366 [15:52] <smellme2> oh
#2367 [15:52] <smellme2> but hypothetically I could
#2368 [15:52] <xales> if you did that, you would just be back at the first problem, most likely
#2369 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> Hypothetically, I could fly to Sweeden, copy Minecraft's source code onto a USB drive, and make my own fork. It'd still be stealing.
#2370 [15:53] <smellme2> alright
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#2372 [15:54] <mib_h76l36> #help
#2373 [15:54] <Solvius> stealing is taking something away
#2374 [15:54] <xales> Solvius: not necessarily
#2375 [15:54] <xales> mib_h76l36: I think you mean "/join #help"
#2376 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Solvius: Is we're going to get this ball rolling, let's do it in another channel; this isn't #intellectualpropertyrights; this is #MineCraftHelp.
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#2378 [15:54] <Solvius> I know, its fun to see those discussions about copy and stealing
#2379 [15:55] <mib_h76l36> I can't seem to loginto minecraft. :o
#2380 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_h76l36 mc.net/down
#2381 [15:55] <VoxelHead> mib_h76l36: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#2382 [15:55] <VoxelHead> mib_h76l36: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#2383 [15:55] <mib_h76l36> Okay, thank you.
#2384 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> Quite welcome
#2385 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> Ah, an aussie, no wonder.
#2386 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> It's like they're rational people or something.
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#2388 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> Must be something in the water.
#2389 [15:56] <xales> Jackson413: lol, what did you do? :P
#2390 [15:56] <SkiingPenguins> what color is the dirt where you live?
#2391 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: Plaid.
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#2395 [16:11] <xales> DopeGhoti: I don't suppose you know if there is a way
#2396 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> a way..?
#2397 [16:11] <xales> to make windows that are active because of a notice have a different color than the normal one
#2398 [16:11] <xales> in the theme config
#2399 [16:11] <ozzy> hey all
#2400 [16:12] <xales> hi
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#2402 [16:12] <ozzy> do you know when minecraft.net will be available again?
#2403 [16:12] <xales> nope
#2404 [16:12] <xales> soon
#2405 [16:12] <ozzy> what a pity
#2406 [16:12] <Adam552> whats up with it
#2407 [16:12] <AG_Scott> The creepers.
#2408 [16:12] <xales> ?? mc.net/down
#2409 [16:12] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#2410 [16:12] <AG_Scott> They did it! :D
#2411 [16:12] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#2412 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> xales: hmm, maybe? Not certain.
#2413 [16:13] <xales> DopeGhoti: I tried googling, found nothing. I looked in the documentation but, alas, that stuff isn't documented
#2414 [16:15] <nevercast> xales, I'm assuming you're referring to an IRC Client?
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#2416 [16:15] <nevercast> Hello Rui_rui
#2417 [16:15] <xales> nevercast: correct
#2418 [16:15] <nevercast> xales, which client?
#2419 [16:15] <Rui_rui> Hello
#2420 [16:15] <xales> nevercast: irssi
#2421 [16:15] <Rui_rui> Would anyone happen to have the installation file for Minecraft?
#2422 [16:15] <xales> installation file?
#2423 [16:16] <Rui_rui> For the program.
#2424 [16:16] <nevercast> Rui_rui, There is no installation file.
#2425 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> xales: you using the default status bar?
#2426 [16:16] <nevercast> xales, sorry it's been a year since I've used irssi.. But if you find out. Let me know eh ;)
#2427 [16:16] <xales> DopeGhoti: nope, adv_windowlist.pl
#2428 [16:16] <Rui_rui> My friend needs the program... So do I just take the .exe and give it to them?
#2429 [16:16] <nevercast> Rui_rui, There is no installation file. Just a single executable.
#2430 [16:16] <nevercast> Yeah
#2431 [16:17] <Rui_rui> Okay, I'll try that.
#2432 [16:17] <nevercast> Rui_rui, Just the exe you got from the website. GIve them that
#2433 [16:17] <xales> Why can't get download it themselves, Rui_rui?
#2434 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> xales: same here. I don't see any distinction for notice or privmsg highlight :/
#2435 [16:17] <nevercast> xales, Isn't MC.Net down? :P
#2436 [16:17] <Rui_rui> The website is down?
#2437 [16:17] <xales> They won't be able to play anyway
#2438 [16:17] <xales> they need to have logged in once to play offline
#2439 [16:18] <nevercast> ^
#2440 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/down
#2441 [16:18] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#2442 [16:18] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#2443 [16:18] <Rui_rui> Oh... >_>
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#2445 [16:20] <nevercast> Following on Twitter
#2446 [16:20] <nevercast> Apparently you can get to Menu
#2447 [16:20] <nevercast> But you can't Join Servers yet
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#2449 [16:20] <ZenMaster> I can confirm this
#2450 [16:21] <fizyplankton> why the hell is wjgwl or whatever being detected as i virus?
#2451 [16:21] <fizyplankton> i just deleted the bin folder 3 times
#2452 [16:21] <fizyplankton> and each time, avg says im downloading a virus
#2453 [16:21] <xales> because AVG is retarded
#2454 [16:21] <xales> and known for false positives
#2455 [16:22] <nevercast> fizyplankton, Delete your AVG, and get either Avast or AntiVir
#2456 [16:22] <fizyplankton> so can we confrm that wghgfswhateever is safe to open?
#2457 [16:22] <nevercast> Yes
#2458 [16:22] <fizyplankton> sweet
#2459 [16:22] <nevercast> wait
#2460 [16:22] <nevercast> It shouldn't be an executable lol.
#2461 [16:22] <nevercast> It's a 3d library
#2462 [16:22] <nevercast> so you can't open it
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#2464 [16:23] <nevercast> But yeah, It's safe.
#2465 [16:23] <nevercast> Rui_rui, The site is half up. You can play single player now
#2466 [16:23] <fizyplankton> is there a pastebin for pics?
#2467 [16:23] <xales> imgur
#2468 [16:23] <nevercast> xales, He should just disable AVG.
#2469 [16:24] <Rui_rui> Alright.
#2470 [16:24] <fizyplankton> do i have to save the pic as a file then upload it?
#2471 [16:24] <nevercast> yes.
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#2473 [16:24] <Diabo> MS security essentials is not to bad,,, one of the best ting ms have made :P
#2474 [16:24] <fizyplankton> son of a gun
#2475 [16:24] <nevercast> Diabo, Visual Studio is nice too.
#2476 [16:25] <Diabo> hehe
#2477 [16:25] <nevercast> Tobias is working on getting the site back online now.
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#2479 [16:26] <nevercast> Wow
#2480 [16:26] <fizyplankton> http://i.imgur.com/Zn3Za.png SEE?
#2481 [16:26] <nevercast> BlackGyver, Is that a vhost or are you using ip6?
#2482 [16:26] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ipv6
#2483 [16:26] <nevercast> Wow
#2484 [16:27] <nevercast> 1. Didn't know esper supported it
#2485 [16:27] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :"Wow" ?
#2486 [16:27] <xales> nevercast: one server does
#2487 [16:27] <fizyplankton> it happens right after mc finishes updating
#2488 [16:27] <nevercast> xales, oh cool.
#2489 [16:27] <xales> fizyplankton: just uninstall AVG and get something else/better
#2490 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Wow, avg sucks
#2491 [16:27] <nevercast> Also, my Router and my ISP and my Country doesn't support it yet.. so I'm jealous
#2492 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> I mean, I knew that before.. but wow
#2493 [16:27] <fizyplankton> but for nw, can i just hit ignore?
#2494 [16:27] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Live in Egypt or what ?
#2495 [16:27] <xales> fizyplankton: no
#2496 [16:27] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp ::p
#2497 [16:27] <xales> you need to uninstall it
#2498 [16:27] <nevercast> fizyplankton, DELETE IT DAMN IT :D
#2499 [16:28] <xales> or disable it completely
#2500 [16:28] <fizyplankton> im too lazy
#2501 [16:28] <xales> which si very hard to do
#2502 [16:28] <nevercast> Do you want to live happily, fizyplankton ?
#2503 [16:28] <fizyplankton> im cheap. i need free antivirus software
#2504 [16:28] <nevercast> Avast and AntiVir
#2505 [16:28] <nevercast> are free
#2506 [16:28] <fizyplankton> ill have to run it by my dad when he gets ghome
#2507 [16:28] <xales> fizyplankton: all the good ones are pretty much free
#2508 [16:28] <fizyplankton> but for now, acn i just hit ignore?
#2509 [16:29] <nevercast> -.-'
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#2511 [16:29] <xales> fizyplankton: again, no
#2512 [16:29] <fizyplankton> im not uninstalling antivirus software w/o my dad
#2513 [16:29] <xales> then disable it
#2514 [16:29] <fizyplankton> hes a programmer, and if a virus got in the network, hed neuter me
#2515 [16:30] <nevercast> Minecraft is UP :D
#2516 [16:30] <nevercast> as of 13 seconds ago
#2517 [16:30] <aetherian> with a hacksaw?
#2518 [16:30] <fizyplankton> its been up
#2519 [16:30] <fizyplankton> for like 10 minutes
#2520 [16:30] <nevercast> No it hasn't
#2521 [16:30] <aetherian> neeeew record :D
#2522 [16:30] <nevercast> aetherian, ?
#2523 [16:30] <fizyplankton> i dowloaded this file like 10 times
#2524 [16:30] <aetherian> 10 whole minutes :O
#2525 [16:30] <nevercast> fizyplankton, It was half online
#2526 [16:31] <nevercast> fizyplankton, Tobias was putting parts of it up one at a time
#2527 [16:31] <fizyplankton> is just hiting ignore safe?
#2528 [16:31] <xales> fizyplankton: again
#2529 [16:31] <xales> it will NOT work
#2530 [16:31] <fizyplankton> again, im not changing antivirus on myn own
#2531 [16:31] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Antivir > Avast
#2532 [16:32] <aetherian> which antivir izzis?
#2533 [16:32] <xales> fizyplankton: then just disable it, or wait
#2534 [16:32] <aetherian> fizyplankton: then wait. just wait.
#2535 [16:32] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Antivir doesn't yell in your ears randomly
#2536 [16:32] <SkiingPenguins> Microsoft Security Essentials is pretty good
#2537 [16:32] <nevercast> AntiVir however does give you an advert each time it updates
#2538 [16:32] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Bah
#2539 [16:32] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Just have to modify a file
#2540 [16:32] <nevercast> ORly?
#2541 [16:32] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Easy to do
#2542 [16:32] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Yeah
#2543 [16:32] <aetherian> MSE... kill it with fire
#2544 [16:33] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Put avupdater in "Read only"
#2545 [16:33] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Problem solved
#2546 [16:33] <nevercast> Eh.. I decided I was sick of all this anti virus crap, which is better. Which is free. What to use and getting cracks. I saved a lot of trouble and I switched to Linux :D
#2547 [16:33] <aetherian> ...
#2548 [16:33] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Can't really switch to Linux, as a gamer
#2549 [16:33] <nevercast> Now although I can never play games again.. I'm safe :D
#2550 [16:33] <aetherian> next computer I get, I will certainly install linux, but until then...
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#2552 [16:34] <SkiingPenguins> hey nevercast why not just do sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
#2553 [16:34] <Eugene> Oh hello
#2554 [16:34] <aetherian> oh hello
#2555 [16:34] <Rui_rui> Are you sure Minecraft's up?
#2556 [16:34] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, You assume that my primary drive is the first drive, that it's sata and that it's not partitioned
#2557 [16:34] <LRWerewolf> SkiingPenguins, why bother with the sudo? He should already be logged in as root at that rate. :P
#2558 [16:35] <nevercast> LRWerewolf, LOL
#2559 [16:35] <aetherian> can't do that easily in ubuntu...
#2560 [16:35] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, Also does dd work when the drive is in use?
#2561 [16:35] <LRWerewolf> nevercast, Partitioning irrelevant. That'd nuke even the partition table.
#2562 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> nevercast it worked on a linux noob in another channel xD
#2563 [16:35] <nevercast> LRWerewolf, Oh dear haha.. Interesting :)
#2564 [16:35] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, You evil dog :D
#2565 [16:35] <aetherian> oh my
#2566 [16:35] <aetherian> what's it do, delete everything
#2567 [16:35] <aetherian> ?
#2568 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> http://ichimonai.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=499 <- details what happened..
#2569 [16:35] <LRWerewolf> Essentually, that command is, "Fill every byte on the hard drive with 0."
#2570 [16:35] <nevercast> no no, rm -rf /
#2571 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> its quite funny
#2572 [16:35] <nevercast> removes everything
#2573 [16:36] <aetherian> lul
#2574 [16:36] <aetherian> that's an awfully small command for deleting everything
#2575 [16:36] <LRWerewolf> Poor man's low-level format.
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#2577 [16:37] <Rui_rui> Minecraft still isn't working for me. >_>
#2578 [16:37] <Octocraft> hey can someonehelp me? minecraft keeps crashing i only get 5 seconds of the game. D:
#2579 [16:37] <LRWerewolf> Octocraft, yes, I'm sure somebody can help you.
#2580 [16:38] <Octocraft> Il tell you what pops up when I play but all my maps a kindof big
#2581 [16:38] <nevercast> AHAHAHAHA
#2582 [16:38] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, What a noob <3
#2583 [16:38] <SkiingPenguins> :)
#2584 [16:39] <nevercast> aetherian, It's linux.. a lot of shit can be done with very little typing
#2585 [16:39] <nevercast> aetherian, That said, almost everything requires a little typing.. so after awhile you get sick of typing everything :P
#2586 [16:39] <aetherian> haha
#2587 [16:39] <aetherian> ya know, I hardly know any linux, but even I wouldn't do that >.>
#2588 [16:40] <nevercast> haha, wouldn't you, aetherian ?
#2589 [16:40] <aetherian> I am wary of small things.
#2590 [16:40] <aetherian> bg problems come in small packages.
#2591 [16:40] <nevercast> I could convince you that
#2592 [16:40] <nevercast> dd means Disk Defrag
#2593 [16:40] <aetherian> no, no you couldn't
#2594 [16:40] <nevercast> Well not now... But had you been that noob
#2595 [16:40] <nevercast> It would've been easy :P
#2596 [16:41] <nevercast> Although it seems they didn't need to. He just copy pasted
#2597 [16:41] <aetherian> no, no it wouldn't have.
#2598 [16:41] <SkiingPenguins> all he wanted was more space on his hard drive
#2599 [16:41] <aetherian> you see
#2600 [16:41] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, Which you gave him :P
#2601 [16:41] <aetherian> what I would have done was, see what you said, then google what it does
#2602 [16:41] <nevercast> aetherian, Yeah I did the same google move when I didn't know what rm -rf /
#2603 [16:41] <nevercast> did
#2604 [16:42] * aetherian technically doesn't know what that does, but he's heard it before.
#2604 [16:42] <nevercast> rm
#2605 [16:42] <Rui_rui> Getting a "Timed out: connect" error for my server...
#2606 [16:42] <aetherian> it deletes like everything, right?
#2607 [16:42] <nevercast> remove
#2608 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> :(){ :|: & };:
#2609 [16:42] <nevercast> , r = recursive, f = force ( no questions ), / = root drive
#2610 [16:43] <nevercast> Recursively remove everything without questions, from the root drive. down.
#2611 [16:43] <aetherian> recursive?
#2612 [16:43] <nevercast> delete all the folders, and their folders and files, and theirs
#2613 [16:43] <nevercast> etc
#2614 [16:43] <nevercast> same as the /s switch in windows for the dir command
#2615 [16:43] <aetherian> is there a short code to delete all drives?
#2616 [16:43] <nevercast> ever tried that, aetherian ?
#2617 [16:43] <aetherian> tried what?
#2618 [16:43] <nevercast> 'dir C:\ /s'
#2619 [16:43] <nevercast> in Windows
#2620 [16:43] <aetherian> oh sure.
#2621 [16:43] <aetherian> whenever I need more space for games
#2622 [16:44] <aetherian> :P
#2623 [16:44] <nevercast> No dude, seriously. It wont hurt your computer
#2624 [16:44] <nevercast> it just looks cool. Honest.
#2625 [16:44] <LRWerewolf> I've done `rm -Rf /` on a production box once while it was running. Mercifully, it was out of the load balancer though and slated for destruction anyways.
#2626 [16:44] <aetherian> lul
#2627 [16:44] <AG_Scott> why would you do that :(
#2628 [16:44] <Xerati> GreyVulpine, i had someone do something like that once
#2629 [16:44] <nevercast> LRWerewolf, Haha yeah I've never had the change to run that command.
#2630 [16:44] <LRWerewolf> AG_Scott: 'cause I never had before?
#2631 [16:44] <Xerati> they didn't understand why everything started lagging/not responding
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#2633 [16:45] <LRWerewolf> nevercast, use a virtual machine.
#2634 [16:45] * GreyVulpine snerks
#2634 [16:45] <Jackson413> hey guys
#2635 [16:45] <AG_Scott> That's what test VMs are for.
#2636 [16:45] <aetherian> I want to use a vm to do that...
#2637 [16:45] <aetherian> wait...
#2638 [16:45] <nevercast> LRWerewolf, I have a couple Linux VM'z.. It has crossed my mind a few times
#2639 [16:45] <Jackson413> what do i have to do with this link
#2640 [16:45] <Jackson413> http://mojang.com/2011/02/16/minecraft-save-file-format-in-beta-1-3/
#2641 [16:45] <aetherian> wouldn't dir C:\ /s just show everything?
#2642 [16:45] <LRWerewolf> speaking of which, I've never done the dd thing... now I just need a testbed...
#2643 [16:45] <nevercast> aetherian, Yes
#2644 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - What about it?
#2645 [16:45] <aetherian> not delete it though...
#2646 [16:45] <Jackson413> look at it
#2647 [16:45] <Rui_rui> Could someone please tell me why I'm getting the 'Timed Out: Connect' error for my server?
#2648 [16:45] <aetherian> how would it hurt the computer?
#2649 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - It's just a preview of the upcoming save format change
#2650 [16:45] <nevercast> aetherian, it wouln't
#2651 [16:46] <nevercast> *wouldn't
#2652 [16:46] <LRWerewolf> Jackson413, If you're a programmer of MC-interfacing programs, take heed of it. If not, ignore it.
#2653 [16:46] <aetherian> hrm
#2654 [16:46] <Jackson413> do i need to convert my map
#2655 [16:46] <aetherian> I'm not so sure, nevercast
#2656 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Nope, it'll do it on its own
#2657 [16:46] <Xerati> you don't, something else will
#2658 [16:46] <Jackson413> ok
#2659 [16:46] <LRWerewolf> Jackson413, No, it'll be automatically converted when it's required.
#2660 [16:46] <nevercast> aetherian, I used to do it at school all the time to scare the teachers
#2661 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Unless you're a programmer, ignore it
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#2663 [16:46] <nevercast> aetherian, It's no wonder I always got kicked out of all computer classes I've ever been in
#2664 [16:46] <aetherian> meh, I'll try it on d:
#2665 [16:46] <nevercast> lol.
#2666 [16:46] <nevercast> lame
#2667 [16:47] <aetherian> lol
#2668 [16:47] <aetherian> it'd be kinda annoying to lose d, but not too annoying
#2669 [16:47] <aetherian> I just got a bunch of linux distros on there
#2670 [16:47] <nevercast> you wont lose it
#2671 [16:47] <nevercast> fuck
#2672 [16:47] <nevercast> just run dir /h
#2673 [16:47] <nevercast> or /?
#2674 [16:47] <nevercast> It'll give you command help
#2675 [16:47] <nevercast> with all the switches.
#2676 [16:47] <CoLoN> is there a way to get a timestamp on console log?
#2677 [16:48] <aetherian> cool
#2678 [16:48] <aetherian> it looks cool
#2679 [16:48] <aetherian> I'm doing it on c
#2680 [16:48] <nevercast> :)
#2681 [16:48] <nevercast> Ctrl+C to cancel
#2682 [16:48] <aetherian> this is gonna take hours just to go through the minecraft saved >.>
#2683 [16:48] <aetherian> *saves
#2684 [16:48] <aetherian> lul, I would so do this in the computer lab
#2685 [16:49] <aetherian> "what are you doing?!" "uh... nothing..."
#2686 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> do what again? dir /a /s?
#2687 [16:50] <aetherian> dir c:\ /s
#2688 [16:51] <aetherian> haha still running
#2689 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> I used to stash stuff in directories called " ". That is not a space; that's ASCII character 255. Hillaristurbing how few "sysadmins" knew how to get in there
#2690 [16:51] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, That's brilliant
#2691 [16:51] <aetherian> wait huh buh wha
#2692 [16:52] <aetherian> why couldn't they get in?
#2693 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> See also, "C:\DOS. ". Again, not a space, and made for confusing times. "Why are there two DOS directories?!"
#2694 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> they didn't know how to type " "
#2695 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> (they also generally didn't see it, because on a 'dir /w', it's evvectively invisible
#2696 [16:53] <nevercast> lol.
#2697 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> )
#2698 [16:53] <nevercast> *effectively ?
#2699 [16:53] <nevercast> :P
#2700 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> In other news, I apparently cannot type today.
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#2702 [16:53] <nevercast> Yah
#2703 [16:53] <Theminebox> Hi
#2704 [16:53] <nevercast> Hello
#2705 [16:53] <Theminebox> Still 'User not premium' even after buying a while ago??? :(
#2706 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> This just in: mc.net should be operational again.
#2707 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> Theminebox: define 'while'.
#2708 [16:54] <Theminebox> A few hours
#2709 [16:54] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, LOL that's not new news.. I said that about 10 minutes ago.
#2710 [16:54] <nevercast> Theminebox, The site has been down for some time.
#2711 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> Theminebox: How few?
#2712 [16:54] <Theminebox> 1.5 maybe 2...
#2713 [16:54] <Theminebox> Cant wait to play :)
#2714 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> Theminebox: give it 3.5, maybe four hours.
#2715 [16:55] <Theminebox> Ok, Ill wait till tomorrow. If it still doesnt work then?
#2716 [16:55] <nevercast> Come back here
#2717 [16:55] <nevercast> We'll help out more
#2718 [16:55] <aetherian> meh, ima have to go for a lil I think
#2719 [16:55] <nevercast> But until then
#2720 [16:55] <nevercast> wait
#2721 [16:55] <nevercast> aetherian, cya bro
#2722 [16:55] <Theminebox> Ok :)
#2723 [16:56] <nevercast> Theminebox, Thanks for being a good customer :P.. cya
#2724 [16:56] <Theminebox> Ill be back ;) Can i talk in here about the game when i get it running? Or is it just help?
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#2726 [16:58] <nevercast> Theminebox, The best place for that is #mcchatter.
#2727 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> Theminebox: if you're not getting in the way of help, it's generally ok, but #mcchatter is preferable.
#2728 [16:58] <nevercast> ^
#2729 [16:58] <Theminebox> Thanks :)
#2730 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> (I still parse #mcchatter as "M C C Hatter"
#2731 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> )
#2732 [16:59] <nevercast> DAMN IT, DopeGhoti
#2733 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> what?
#2734 [16:59] <nevercast> My parsing was perfect until you mentioned that.
#2735 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> At least we're not alone.
#2736 [16:59] * Valashn [Valashn@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2737 [17:00] <Valashn> Hey, recently I've been trying to play minecraft but for some reason the application black screens after I hit the login button.
#2738 [17:00] <Valashn> Anyone have any idea what's going on?>
#2739 [17:01] * mib_vpdy2h [mib_vpdy2h@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2740 [17:01] <nevercast> Valashn, The minecraft site has been down
#2741 [17:01] * mib_ccngul [mib_ccngul@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2742 [17:01] <nevercast> Valashn, When was the last time you tried?
#2743 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Always happened, or only recently?
#2744 [17:01] <Valashn> Very recently and I tried litterally one minute ago
#2745 [17:01] <mib_ccngul> i keep getting a black screen after i recently tried to install a patch/mod to reduce the massive amount of lag i get help?
#2746 [17:01] <mib_vpdy2h> same here black screen
#2747 [17:02] <nevercast> Woah
#2748 [17:02] <nevercast> Okay, 3 new people.. all with black screens
#2749 [17:02] <nevercast> all within a minute of each other
#2750 [17:02] <Valashn> Heh.. looks like I'm not the only one =P
#2751 [17:02] <nevercast> Yeah
#2752 [17:02] <mib_vpdy2h> i have been getting it all day
#2753 [17:02] <mib_ccngul> I guess its just like an issue that would need to be patched
#2754 [17:03] <nevercast> mib_ccngul, patches are irrelevant
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#2756 [17:03] <nevercast> mib_vpdy2h, all day is how long?
#2757 [17:03] <voltage> hello
#2758 [17:03] <nevercast> How can we help, voltage?
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#2760 [17:03] <mib_vpdy2h> if it helps, i updated to the new java 6 Update 24 today, could that be it ... since 11:30 CST
#2761 [17:03] <nevercast> Hey Blood_display
#2762 [17:03] <Blood_display> Anyone on?
#2763 [17:04] <Blood_display> Hey Nevercast
#2764 [17:04] <nevercast> mib_vpdy2h, No that wouldn't have changed anything
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#2766 [17:04] <Blood_display> Nevercast: Minecraft back on?
#2767 [17:04] <Valashn> The site is up..
#2768 [17:04] <nevercast> mib_ccngul, mib_vpdy2h , Valashn, the only thing I can think of is that the server has been down for 2 hours or so.. Tobias is working on getting it back online.
#2769 [17:04] <Mekixx> yes
#2770 [17:04] <Blood_display> What about SMP?
#2771 [17:05] <Valashn> Could be it.
#2772 [17:05] <Mekixx> i am logged in now
#2773 [17:05] <xales> ?? win/reinst
#2774 [17:05] <Mekixx> just logged in a min ago
#2775 [17:05] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2776 [17:05] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2777 [17:05] <mib_ccngul> i've deleted the whole minecraft roaming file thrice and downloaded many times and still black screen
#2778 [17:05] <xales> anyway
#2779 [17:05] * xales goes afk for a bit
#2779 [17:05] <mib_vpdy2h> yeah, i just looked at that, they got in up about 30 mins ago
#2780 [17:05] <voltage> What do you need to craft a book nevercast
#2781 [17:05] <nevercast> voltage, Have a look on the wiki
#2782 [17:05] <nevercast> voltage, minecraftwiki.net
#2783 [17:05] <Blood_display> Xales: When I log in it still says Bad login:Erro and End Steam
#2784 [17:06] <Xerati> bad login?
#2785 [17:06] <voltage> Thanks, nevercast
#2786 [17:06] <Xerati> close/reopen minecraft
#2787 [17:06] <Blood_display> I did.
#2788 [17:06] <Xerati> then it'll work (once the site works)
#2789 [17:06] <mib_vpdy2h> yup, same thing, deleted the bin folder, and restarted the game, same thing
#2790 [17:06] <xales> Blood_display: GreyVulpine told you about the end of stream things. you won't be able to fix it
#2791 [17:06] <Xerati> lies
#2792 [17:06] <xales> anyway
#2793 [17:06] * xales has to go
#2793 [17:06] <LRWerewolf> voltage, start with 9 reed/sugarcane. Three makes a sheet of paper, three paper make a book.
#2794 [17:06] <Blood_display> nvm it workzs
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#2796 [17:07] <nevercast> All people with black screen issues
#2797 [17:07] <Empis_Home> what java-runtime is recommend to run a server?
#2798 [17:07] <nevercast> Empis_Home, The latest
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#2800 [17:07] <nevercast> BLack screen issues, clear your bin files
#2801 [17:07] <Empis_Home> im running ubuntu server 64bit
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#2803 [17:07] <nipper> sun
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#2805 [17:07] <nevercast> Empis_Home, Yeah... ?
#2806 [17:07] <nipper> sun 1.6
#2807 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Then java 64 bit
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#2809 [17:07] <Empis_Home> so sun is the best one?
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#2811 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2812 [17:08] * Xerati chuckles
#2812 [17:08] <Empis_Home> i heard it was any other that was better
#2813 [17:08] <nevercast> I've had no problems with OpenJDK but I do suggest Sun
#2814 [17:08] <Valashn> emptied the .bin Still blackscreening.
#2815 [17:08] <mib_vpdy2h> cleared bin, stating MC again, getting pacjages
#2816 [17:08] <CoLoN> can you get a timestamp for server console log?
#2817 [17:08] <mib_vpdy2h> and still black screen
#2818 [17:08] <voltage> thankyou, LRWerewold
#2819 [17:08] <Empis_Home> im running Sun on a debian right now, but it eating CPU as hell some periods
#2820 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> CoLoN - No, not in vanilla
#2821 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> "Oracle Java > Sun Java"
#2822 [17:09] <nevercast> CoLoN, not that I know of
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#2824 [17:09] <nevercast> Empis_Home, That's Minecraft server
#2825 [17:09] <nevercast> Empis_Home, It's a CPU whore
#2826 [17:09] <nevercast> Well can be at times
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#2828 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> CoLoN: My console has timestamps: 2011-02-21 08:34:50 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#2829 [17:09] <Empis_Home> nevercast: yeah i know, but its some CPU spikes at 100% sometimes
#2830 [17:09] <Empis_Home> is it _normal_ with the current version?
#2831 [17:09] <nevercast> yeah
#2832 [17:10] <nevercast> It's only Beta remember
#2833 [17:10] <Empis_Home> yeah, hmm
#2834 [17:10] <nevercast> still a buggy infant
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#2836 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> More of a crabby two-year-old now.
#2837 [17:10] <nevercast> lol.
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#2840 [17:11] <ManuXz> hi
#2841 [17:11] <sprog> i need help
#2842 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> ?? ask
#2843 [17:11] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2844 [17:11] <mib_vpdy2h> more notes, it works on my other, slower computer, but i dont want to run it on that
#2845 [17:11] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2847 [17:11] <ManuXz> ehm why are the classic server down?
#2848 [17:11] <Notch2> Anyone Here?
#2849 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2850 [17:11] <Notch2> Yeah
#2851 [17:12] <sprog> when i log imto minecraft it immiiately goes into a blackscreen and i cant do anythin about
#2852 [17:12] <sprog> it
#2853 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> No, Notch2, no one is here.
#2854 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> ManuXz - The website is being worked on
#2855 [17:12] <sprog> wtf is wrong?
#2856 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Give it some time
#2857 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> sprog: what OS?
#2858 [17:12] <ManuXz> oke ...but it says me : Public servers If you want to host your own, here's the server software! List was updated 22:11 (UTC) February 21.
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#2860 [17:12] <Valashn> I tried Voxel's suggestion, still no change sadly.
#2861 [17:12] <nevercast> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam
#2862 [17:12] <GriimZz> hey GreyVulpine, im the guy from yesterday who was having trouble with my online server. wondering if you figured out what was wrong? :O
#2863 [17:12] <nevercast> Follow him
#2864 [17:12] <sprog> what os?
#2865 [17:12] <ManuXz> i think this post sayed: finished?o0
#2866 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> What OS is your computer running?
#2867 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> GriimZz - Sorry, You gotta give me a little more info to go on here.
#2868 [17:12] <zenon> My game crashes every time i log in, and i already tried deleting my bin folder. Should i just wait?
#2869 [17:12] <mib_vpdy2h> Win 7? if talking to me
#2870 [17:12] <nevercast> Tobias is working on getting Minecraft and all it's components online: http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam
#2871 [17:12] <sprog> windows 7...
#2872 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> sprog win/reinst
#2873 [17:13] <VoxelHead> sprog: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2874 [17:13] <Kealper> Notch2: change your name to something else or i'm banning you from the channel for impersonation
#2875 [17:13] <VoxelHead> sprog: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2876 [17:13] <FireBlade624> hey is anyody having problems with their minecraft launcher blacking out?
#2877 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> zenon win/profile
#2878 [17:13] <VoxelHead> zenon: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2879 [17:13] <VoxelHead> zenon: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2880 [17:13] <Xerati> I CANT SEE
#2881 [17:13] <Xerati> ok continue
#2882 [17:13] <nevercast> FireBlade624, Everyone is having that issue at the moment
#2883 [17:13] <GriimZz> we went on teamview and you took control of my computer and looked around and didnt know what the problem was
#2884 [17:13] <FireBlade624> ok lol
#2885 [17:13] <ManuXz> thanks nevercast
#2886 [17:13] <FireBlade624> srry bout that
#2887 [17:14] <Cake> DopeGhoti, add "only alphanumeric characters" or something to that one
#2888 [17:14] <nevercast> FireBlade624, it's fine lol.
#2889 [17:14] <voltage> Hey guys, join a chat room called 'run'
#2890 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> Cake: which one? Profile?
#2891 [17:14] * Kealper kicked Notch2 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Change your name.)
#2892 [17:14] <Cake> Yeah
#2893 [17:14] <nevercast> voltage, If you don't need help and are not being helped. Please leave.
#2894 [17:14] * Kealper kicked voltage from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: No advertising)
#2895 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> GriimZz - Aaah, I remember now.
#2896 [17:15] <Kealper> aaaannnnd.....ok powertrip over
#2897 [17:15] <fogWraith> Open minecraft, get the yellow pulsating text... IDSPISPOPD!
#2898 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> awwwe
#2899 [17:15] <fogWraith> Doom <3
#2900 [17:15] <sprog> is still does same shit
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#2902 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> ??> sprog win/profile
#2903 [17:15] <VoxelHead> sprog: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2904 [17:15] <GriimZz> awesome :)
#2905 [17:15] <VoxelHead> sprog: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2906 [17:16] <Kealper> <3 idspispopd
#2907 [17:16] * DopeGhoti preferred idfa; all the spispopd codes other than the map ran out (:
#2907 [17:16] <mib_mxh0p2> My screen turns black whenever I log into my account and I already deleted my bin folder, what should I try next?
#2908 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> also, wow, I can still type idspispopd quickly after all this time
#2909 [17:16] <Kealper> -NickServ(services@esper.net)- Nickname notch2 has been linked to your nickname.
#2910 [17:17] <nevercast> lol
#2911 [17:17] <fogWraith> Had to be fast with the cheats :P
#2912 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_mxh0p2 win/profile
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#2914 [17:17] <VoxelHead> mib_mxh0p2: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2915 [17:17] <fogWraith> Damn fleshmonsters!
#2916 [17:17] <VoxelHead> mib_mxh0p2: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2917 [17:17] <mib_mxh0p2> alright one sec dope
#2918 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: may as well also do {3..9}
#2919 [17:17] <Xerati> ??> DopeGhoti moo
#2920 [17:17] <Xerati> lol
#2921 [17:17] <Empis_Home> wow, a new minecraft-launcher!
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#2923 [17:17] <nevercast> Kealper, DopeGhoti, GreyVulpine, fogWraith, any idea on what we can do regarding this black screening?
#2924 [17:17] <Kealper> meh, i'll leave those to you guys, i can't have all the ghosting fun :o
#2925 [17:17] <Theminebox> Yay! Minecraft works!
#2926 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> Theminebox: \o/
#2927 [17:18] <fogWraith> nevercast, turn on the lights
#2928 [17:18] <Empis_Home> they released a new launcher now
#2929 [17:18] <nevercast> fogWraith, lol derp
#2930 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: play with your eyes open?
#2931 [17:18] <fogWraith> Sorry :P
#2932 [17:18] <GriimZz> got any more thought to what the problem is?
#2933 [17:18] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, fogWraith got the joke first
#2934 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> GriimZz - One moment
#2935 [17:18] <GriimZz> okay :)
#2936 [17:18] <Valashn> Well tried the new profile thing. Still black screening
#2937 [17:18] <nevercast> Empis_Home, Where can we get the new launcher from?
#2938 [17:18] <Empis_Home> the normal download
#2939 [17:19] <fogWraith> So yeah, I spawned a ghast in the "world" world... thought I'd have some fun shooting at it... but, it flew away instead
#2940 [17:19] <Empis_Home> minecraft.exe
#2941 [17:19] <nevercast> Valashn, Please go to the minecraft website
#2942 [17:19] <nevercast> Valashn, and redownload the client
#2943 [17:19] <Valashn> I've done that multiple times
#2944 [17:19] <nevercast> It seems there is a new launcher
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#2946 [17:19] <nevercast> Empis_Home, I guess that is what Tobias meant by 'compiling'
#2947 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> Valashn: what version of Java are you running?
#2948 [17:19] <Cial> nevercast, black screen? are you using mods?
#2949 [17:19] <Valashn> Not sure.
#2950 [17:19] <nevercast> Cial, I'm not using mods.
#2951 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> Valashn: ..check?
#2952 [17:20] <nevercast> Cial, Mods scare me :D
#2953 [17:20] <Valashn> 1.6 I think =P
#2954 [17:20] * DopeGhoti moderates nevercast
#2954 [17:20] <nevercast> AHH!!
#2955 [17:20] * nevercast runs terrified
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#2956 [17:21] <Valashn> brb
#2957 [17:22] <mib_mxh0p2> dopeghoti: I made a new username and when I login it says "User not premium"
#2958 [17:22] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Aaaah, java. I'll never understand why you still live in the heart of some devs.
#2959 [17:22] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :C'eeeeest la java bleuuue
#2960 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> mib_mxh0p2: Did you make a new Windows user on your computer; or just register a new Minecraft account?
#2961 [17:22] <nevercast> BlackGyver, Lol I agree.
#2962 [17:22] <mib_mxh0p2> minecraft account
#2963 [17:22] <FireBlade624> k if i re register i cant play online
#2964 [17:22] <nevercast> derp
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#2966 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> mib_mxh0p2: take a closer look at those directions from VoxelHead.
#2967 [17:22] <mib_mxh0p2> dopeghoti: alright my bad
#2968 [17:22] <bossman> Hello, a while ago i formatted my PC (2.6ghz dual, 8800gts, 2gb ram) which i has played minecraft on extensively. I changed vista to win7, I have tried to play minecraft but it runs REALLY slow (even on the start menu) it is unplayable, like 0.5-1FPS. Had no issues with black ops or LOL. It uses ~300k memory and utilizes both cores when running.
#2969 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> no worries
#2970 [17:23] <nevercast> Create a new User Profile.. That's User account for Windows/Linux
#2971 [17:23] <Valashn1> Anyway I'm back. Just updated my Java.
#2972 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> bossman: install some video drivers
#2973 [17:23] <FireBlade624> lolsry
#2974 [17:23] <bossman> got latest nvidia drivers
#2975 [17:23] <Valashn1> Updated Java. Still black screening
#2976 [17:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Have you tried moving the window around ?
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#2979 [17:24] <mib_vpdy2h> I just crated a new user, and started the game on there, same black screen
#2980 [17:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :May sound silly, but I had a black screen the first time, and it disappeared as soon as I moved the window.
#2981 [17:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp ::D
#2982 [17:24] <Valashn1> Doen't for me...
#2983 [17:24] <Valashn1> Doesn'*
#2984 [17:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :TOO BAD
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#2986 [17:24] <Valashn1> Fail spelling is fail
#2987 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> bossman reinst/win
#2988 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> bossman win/reinst
#2989 [17:25] <VoxelHead> bossman: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2990 [17:25] <VoxelHead> bossman: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2991 [17:25] <aetherian> fail, DopeGhoti
#2992 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> yeah yeah
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#2994 [17:26] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :That's some handy bot you guys have here, now.
#2995 [17:26] <Xerati> lol
#2996 [17:26] <aetherian> ?? anything
#2997 [17:26] <Xerati> reinstall windwos
#2998 [17:26] <bossman> will give it a go
#2999 [17:26] <aetherian> :O
#3000 [17:26] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Does it have cooking recipes, too ?
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#3002 [17:27] <mib_vpdy2h> what?!?! re install windows ??
#3003 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> No
#3004 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I thought about that, which is why it doesnot say "I don't know about $keyword".
#3005 [17:27] <aetherian> human bloodcake
#3006 [17:27] <SkiingPenguins> no
#3007 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Reinstall the minecraft files in windows
#3008 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> And we love DopeGhoti's bot now, saves so much time retyping
#3009 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> doesn't it? (:
#3010 [17:27] <aetherian> dopeghoti, did you get my suggestion earlier?
#3011 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> (I still regret the growing pains, and flood control is coming soon)
#3012 [17:27] <FireBlade624> i think i found it
#3013 [17:28] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :But all your time goes into remembering the commands for it
#3014 [17:28] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp ::D
#3015 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Can you ease up on the bot's flood control in the meantime? :)
#3016 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> It hates greybot
#3017 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I.. may have? Jog my memory.
#3018 [17:28] <bossman> didn't work, the flashing text on menu is still really slow
#3019 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Channel flood control is now disabled except for nickchange spamming
#3020 [17:28] <aetherian> http://bit.ly/mcredeem . put it in a voxel. maybe ?? redeem
#3021 [17:28] <aetherian> :)
#3022 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Yay
#3023 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I just need to finish the code to prefent people from flooding the channel with queries.
#3024 [17:29] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Ach
#3025 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> ??+ giftcode|To reddem a gift code, go to http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp, log in, and enter the code. Enjoy!
#3026 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: done.
#3027 [17:30] <aetherian> yay
#3028 [17:30] <aetherian> aww
#3029 [17:30] <aetherian> not bit.ly/mcredeem ?
#3030 [17:30] <aetherian> ;_;
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#3032 [17:30] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :In that case, it would be preferrable to see the entire url.
#3033 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> The natural URL is short enough, and I prefer only to tinyURL actual long URLs.
#3034 [17:30] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Scams and all, you never know.
#3035 [17:30] <SkiingPenguins> DopeGhoti maybe fix your spelling?
#3036 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: Pff.
#3037 [17:30] <SkiingPenguins> you never know what idiots might come in here >.>
#3038 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> ??~ giftcode|To redeem a gift code, go to http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp, log in, and enter the code. Enjoy!
#3039 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: thanks for spotting that (:
#3040 [17:31] <aetherian> reddem?
#3041 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: catch up with us, here.
#3042 [17:31] <aetherian> lolnah
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#3044 [17:31] <aetherian> and it still fails
#3045 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> you're living in the past, man
#3046 [17:32] <aetherian> my thing opens up http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp, instead of http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#3047 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> ..what fails?
#3048 [17:32] <aetherian> so it fails on me
#3049 [17:32] <mib_vpdy2h> just read mollstam. saying there is an issue with AVG and lwji.dll
#3050 [17:32] <mib_vpdy2h> i have AVG on both mine craft playing systems
#3051 [17:32] <mib_vpdy2h> only one works
#3052 [17:32] <mib_mxh0p2> dopeghoti: I made a new username on windows and the same thing happens; black screen and log off
#3053 [17:32] <mib_mxh0p2> black screen and crash*
#3054 [17:33] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Well, your client fails.
#3055 [17:33] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :That's it.
#3056 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> mib_mxh0p2: what version of Java have you got installed? Is your OS 64-bit? If so, is Java?
#3057 [17:33] <mib_mxh0p2> one second
#3058 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> Time's up.
#3059 [17:33] <mib_mxh0p2> lol
#3060 [17:33] <FireBlade624> my vista says minecraft is a trojan
#3061 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> <DaBeast^> GreyVulpine: drivers shoulnt be a problem i think, minecraft is software rendered (no hardware acceleration)
#3062 [17:33] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#3062 [17:34] <mib_vpdy2h> @ fire thats because vista is the trojan
#3063 [17:34] <FireBlade624> :I
#3064 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> " Rumor has it AVG doesn't like lwjgl.dll. Probably a false positive, but you never know… "
#3065 [17:34] <FireBlade624> yea thatis what the file is
#3066 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Safe to ignore; false positive.
#3067 [17:35] <mollstam> dunno why though
#3068 [17:35] <FireBlade624> i ignore it and nothing changes
#3069 [17:35] <mollstam> will see if I can get anyone to look at it tomorrow
#3070 [17:35] <Cake> Turn off heruristics
#3071 [17:35] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Why are you on Vista, by the way ?
#3072 [17:35] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I mean, you're pretty much asking for trouble here.
#3073 [17:35] <SkiingPenguins> vista was nice to me >.>
#3074 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> BlackGyver: Your point is? All 7 is, is Vista with a partial suckectomy.
#3075 [17:36] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Yup, but it works.
#3076 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> FCVO 'work'.
#3077 [17:37] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Alright, most of the time.
#3078 [17:37] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Often.
#3079 [17:37] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Sometimes.
#3080 [17:39] <mib_mxh0p2> dopeghoti: my java is the recommended version according to the java site
#3081 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> mib_mxh0p2: humor me: what exact version?
#3082 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> And you never answered with regard to 32/64-bot isntallations.
#3083 [17:40] <mib_mxh0p2> version 6 update 24
#3084 [17:40] <mib_mxh0p2> and I have windows xp home edition
#3085 [17:40] <mib_mxh0p2> dxdiag doesnt give me a bit
#3086 [17:40] <mib_mxh0p2> and im not sure :/
#3087 [17:40] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#3088 [17:40] <SkiingPenguins> go to control panel, system, then it'll be there
#3089 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> or press Win+Pause
#3090 [17:41] <mib_mxh0p2> alright one minute
#3091 [17:41] <mib_mxh0p2> my keyboard doesnt have a pause button?
#3092 [17:41] <SkiingPenguins> cool shortcut, DopeGhoti!
#3093 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> (It's above PgUp)
#3094 [17:41] <xales> mib_mxh0p2: unless it's a laptop, it probably does
#3095 [17:41] <SkiingPenguins> mib_mxh0p2 probably Win+Fn+Insert if on laptop
#3096 [17:41] <SkiingPenguins> (im on a dell laptop)
#3097 [17:41] <mib_mxh0p2> holy crap my keyboard has a pause key
#3098 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: it's kinds of a shame they moved that away from the actually-useful properties dialog in Win6, isn't it?
#3099 [17:42] <SkiingPenguins> i really have no idea what you're talking about :)
#3100 [17:42] <mib_mxh0p2> where exactly does it say the bit type
#3101 [17:43] <mib_mxh0p2> I am on the screen with system info
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#3103 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> It is doesn't say anywhere on that screen, it's 32-bit.
#3104 [17:43] <mib_mxh0p2> alright its 32 bit
#3105 [17:43] <SkiingPenguins> System Type: 32-bit operating system
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#3107 [17:43] <mib_mxh0p2> I'm almost sure that it is 32 bit anyways
#3108 [17:44] <xales> If it's XP, it probably is
#3109 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> Hmm. While we're there, how much RAM has the system got?
#3110 [17:44] <andrew_> Does anyone know why Classic won't work?
#3111 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> andrew_: because Mojang is working on fixing it.
#3112 [17:44] <xales> DopeGhoti: there is no SP3 for 64bit XP, just FYI
#3113 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> xales: really? huh. GTK.
#3114 [17:44] <mib_mxh0p2> if it helps speed things up minecraft worked fine yesterday and the days before that
#3115 [17:45] <mib_mxh0p2> just suddenly broke today
#3116 [17:45] <mib_mxh0p2> 384 megabytes of ram btw
#3117 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> o.O
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#3119 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft needs 1GB to run.
#3120 [17:45] <mib_mxh0p2> lol
#3121 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> so if it ran before, it probably ran like s[bleep]t.
#3122 [17:45] <mib_mxh0p2> yeah it sure did
#3123 [17:46] <Mathuin> So Notch just posted about the update later this week, and mentioned "beds" as a new feature. Is this one of those "build it from wood and fabric and sleep in it to regain HP" sorts of things?
#3124 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: I read that it also resets your spawn point
#3125 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> and in SSP skips ahead some time.
#3126 [17:46] <Mathuin> For those people who are annoyed at having to wait for night to pass, I guess.
#3127 [17:46] <Mathuin> Fantastic, though.
#3128 [17:46] <mib_mxh0p2> so dopeghoti what should I do now?
#3129 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> mib_mxh0p2: you have the latest drivers and system updates I presume?
#3130 [17:47] <mib_mxh0p2> yes
#3131 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> Get more RAM, then.
#3132 [17:47] <mib_mxh0p2> service pack 2 and just updated video drivers before
#3133 [17:47] <mib_mxh0p2> damn
#3134 [17:47] <Mathuin> Minecraft sent me to the RAM store as well. Got another 4G for like $90.
#3135 [17:47] <mib_mxh0p2> how come it worked before though
#3136 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> o.O Did the RAM come with a gold Ferrari?
#3137 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> mib_mxh0p2: honestly? Blink luck.
#3138 [17:48] <Shadow386> so
#3139 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> It allocates 1GB at startup, so your system was probably swapping like _crazy_ the whole time you were playing
#3140 [17:48] <mib_mxh0p2> is there anyway I can force it to play minecraft again lol
#3141 [17:48] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: no, it's just hard to find.
#3142 [17:48] <xales> mib_mxh0p2: a computer with that much ram just can't do it
#3143 [17:48] <xales> there's really nothing that can be done
#3144 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> that on top of the save file IO means your hard drive was about to turn pruple, grab its chest, and fall over.
#3145 [17:49] <mib_mxh0p2> what do you mean dopeghoti
#3146 [17:49] <Mathuin> Yeah, I was spending more time in disk wait than actually playing when I didn't have enough RAM.
#3147 [17:49] <xales> it means your computer is far, far below the minimum specs to run it
#3148 [17:49] <xales> so don't expect it to work. at all
#3149 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> You could try forcing your system to allocate more swap space, but I really, Really, _really_ think that's a Bad Idea.
#3150 [17:49] <xales> Very Bad Idea (tm)
#3151 [17:49] <xales> Bad like break it and it won't work anymore at all for anything
#3152 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> your hard drive was constantly reading and writing world files, on top of reading and writing virtual memory, constantly, the whole time you were playing. That's a crash just waiting to happen.
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#3154 [17:50] <mottigenhond> Hi
#3155 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> OEMs don't stress-test hard drives that much.
#3156 [17:50] <mib_mxh0p2> I find this hilarious how bad this computer is
#3157 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> morning, mottigenhond
#3158 [17:50] <mottigenhond> is it possible that the new minecraft executable contains a virus?
#3159 [17:50] <mib_mxh0p2> lol
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#3161 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> mottigenhond: there's a false-positive with one of its libraries now
#3162 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> This should be fixed soon.
#3163 [17:51] <mottigenhond> ok
#3164 [17:51] <mottigenhond> thanks :p
#3165 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> "nothing to see here; move along" (:
#3166 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#3167 [17:51] <mottigenhond> any fix for now? i wanna play minecraft :(
#3168 [17:51] <Mathuin> Disable your AV?
#3169 [17:51] <mottigenhond> :-)
#3170 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> mottigenhond: tell your virus scanner to ignore that specific DLL file
#3171 [17:51] <aetherian> uninstall your av?
#3172 [17:51] <mottigenhond> ignoring doesn't help
#3173 [17:51] <mib_mxh0p2> dopeghoti how can I check how much potential ram i can hold
#3174 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> mib_mxh0p2: RTFM your motherboard.
#3175 [17:52] <mottigenhond> and trying it on ubuntu gave the same kidn of screen (without the alert, obviously)
#3176 [17:52] <mib_mxh0p2> whatttt?
#3177 [17:52] <Mathuin> mib_mxh0p2: That's a motherboard-specific question, the answers to which can be found in your motherboard's manual which is probably findable by Google.
#3178 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> mottigenhond: really? Could you show is what you mean with a link to a screen shot?
#3179 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> mib_mxh0p2: indeed. RTFM: Read The Friendly Manual
#3180 [17:53] <mottigenhond> i'm on win7 now, i need to reboot for linux
#3181 [17:53] <mottigenhond> but i'll try the new jar on linux now
#3182 [17:53] <mib_mxh0p2> lol ok
#3183 [17:53] <mottigenhond> :-)
#3184 [17:53] <mib_mxh0p2> thanks for your help guys
#3185 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> mottigenhond: good luck; let us know how it goes!
#3186 [17:53] <Mathuin> mib_mxh0p2: Good luck!
#3187 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> mib_mxh0p2: you're welcome
#3188 [17:53] <mottigenhond> same here
#3189 [17:53] <mib_mxh0p2> later
#3190 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> mottigenhond: cheers
#3191 [17:53] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, What's changed in the new launcher?
#3192 [17:53] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, I'm using the old launcher with no problems
#3193 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: it has a built-in bin eraser, a force-updater, and a tumblr feed.
#3194 [17:54] <Mathuin> "playing against your dropbox dir might be fun" wooooo, a reason to get dropbox.
#3195 [17:54] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#3196 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: I have a referral link if you want some extra free space if you've not signed up yet for DropBox
#3197 [17:54] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, You mean the stuff I already do manually, it can now do for me?
#3198 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: yes.
#3199 [17:54] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: I have not yet signed up, slip me your link!
#3200 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: http://db.tt/r9ejm0r :D
#3201 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> Yay for win-win referral deals
#3202 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> (you and I both get more free space)
#3203 [17:56] <fogWraith> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1023&t=177405
#3204 [17:56] <fogWraith> I lol'd
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#3206 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> uh-oh; mc.net's about to break.
#3207 [17:57] <Arkose> cool
#3208 [17:57] <Cake> 2a01:e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 ?
#3209 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> IPv4
#3210 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> er
#3211 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> 6
#3212 [17:58] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:fdf8:35f9:37b3:1518 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :VIP and all.
#3213 [17:58] <Arkose> IPv6 looks so weird.
#3214 [17:58] <Cake> It's long
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#3216 [17:58] <shittymibbitmottigenhond> back :-)
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#3219 [17:59] <mottigenhond> ok, i've run the jar on my ubuntu
#3220 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> fogWraith: "Minecraft is in fact open-source". Uh.
#3221 [17:59] <Blitzarr> Hello
#3222 [17:59] * xales away for food
#3222 [17:59] <xales> hi Blitzarr
#3223 [17:59] <fogWraith> Wait till you get to the last post :P
#3224 [17:59] <mottigenhond> gave the same error like an hour ago, just quit the app when the men popped up
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#3226 [17:59] <Blitzarr> Erm im having a few problems running my own server? Can anyone help?
#3227 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#3228 [18:00] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3229 [18:00] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3230 [18:00] <mottigenhond> so i redownloaded the jar from minecraft.net, just finished updating, quit like before :(
#3231 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> mottigenhond: Try running it from the terminal, and pastebin the output
#3232 [18:00] <mottigenhond> k
#3233 [18:00] <nevercast> 'Downloading Dropbox Daemon'
#3234 [18:00] <nevercast> :D
#3235 [18:01] <Blitzarr> Im running my server fine but when i try to join it, either through localhost or my ip and in the server console it says it has kicked me because i need to log in?
#3236 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> Blitzarr: You need to log into your client to play multiplayer
#3237 [18:02] <Blitzarr> I am logged in
#3238 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> Blitzarr: or, you're trying to connect to a classic server
#3239 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> ??> Blitzarr smp/needlogin
#3240 [18:02] <VoxelHead> Blitzarr: (smp/needlogin) If you get the message "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!" when joining a server, you are attempting to join a Classic server.
#3241 [18:02] <VoxelHead> Blitzarr: (smp/needlogin) If you are running the server, you downloaded the wrong software. The correct software is on the same page where you download the client.
#3242 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: thanks!
#3243 [18:03] <mib_vpdy2h> has there been any word on the black screen issue?
#3244 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> still waiting on Mathuin to install the software (:
#3245 [18:03] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, 'thanks' ?
#3246 [18:03] <mottigenhond> http://pastebin.com/526Jgw4K
#3247 [18:03] <mottigenhond> the output of the jvm
#3248 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: for installing dropbox. You got me even more free space (:
#3249 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> (you got some too)
#3250 [18:04] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Well it seems by using your link. I got any extra gig?
#3251 [18:04] <mottigenhond> weird huh, if i double click it, it runs and now he can't find the main class
#3252 [18:04] <nevercast> *an
#3253 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> !client
#3254 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> mottigenhond: Is that where you got your client?
#3255 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: IIRC, an extra quarter-gig
#3256 [18:04] <Blitzarr> I cant believe it, thanks guys i had the classic client.
#3257 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> Blitzarr: cheers!
#3258 [18:04] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Well how much do you get when you sign up ?
#3259 [18:05] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Without a referrel I mean
#3260 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: 2GiB; with a referral you should have 2.25 GiB IRC
#3261 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> IIRC*
#3262 [18:05] <nevercast> oh..
#3263 [18:05] <nevercast> It seems I only have 2gig.. I'll have to check :)
#3264 [18:05] <Mathuin> It says 2gig on my phone.
#3265 [18:05] <mottigenhond> lets try the linux jar
#3266 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: I think you need to install the client onto a comptuer to complete the referral bonus
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#3268 [18:06] <winningfreak> hi
#3269 [18:06] <SkiingPenguins> hello
#3270 [18:06] <winningfreak> anyone got any ideas on how I can fix a blackscreen after log in
#3271 [18:06] <winningfreak> I tried redownloading minecraft
#3272 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> winningfreak: did you clear the bin directory too?
#3273 [18:06] <winningfreak> yeah
#3274 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> ???> winningfreak win/profile
#3275 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> ??> winningfreak win/profile
#3276 [18:07] <VoxelHead> winningfreak: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3277 [18:07] <VoxelHead> winningfreak: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3278 [18:07] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Yeah I got my extra space :)
#3279 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: :D
#3280 [18:07] <mottigenhond> winningfreak i got the same thing
#3281 [18:07] <winningfreak> did you fix it?
#3282 [18:08] <mottigenhond> nope
#3283 [18:08] <winningfreak> dang
#3284 [18:08] <mottigenhond> dopeghoti downloaded the jar from the link u gave, still the same exception in the terminal
#3285 [18:08] <winningfreak> motti what kind of anti virus do you run?
#3286 [18:09] <mottigenhond> AVG on win7
#3287 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> mottigenhond: try running it from the terminal with the command line: `java -jar minecraft.jar`
#3288 [18:09] <winningfreak> ditto
#3289 [18:09] <mottigenhond> linux: none :)
#3290 [18:09] <winningfreak> I think it's an AVG problem
#3291 [18:09] <nevercast> You both run AVG?
#3292 [18:09] <winningfreak> yeah
#3293 [18:09] <nevercast> Disable / Remove AVG
#3294 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#3295 [18:09] <winningfreak> let me try disableing it 1 sec
#3296 [18:09] <nevercast> AVG has a problem with one of the graphics libraries
#3297 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Or just add the bin to its exceptions list
#3298 [18:10] <mottigenhond> Dopeghoti i'm updating now, let's hope
#3299 [18:10] <winningfreak> same
#3300 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> ??+ virus|There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.;;For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#3301 [18:10] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, How do I recall that reference?
#3302 [18:10] <winningfreak> works now
#3303 [18:10] <winningfreak> thanks guys
#3304 [18:10] <nevercast> Ha!
#3305 [18:10] <winningfreak> just update your AVG
#3306 [18:10] <winningfreak> no issues
#3307 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? virus
#3308 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: "?? virus"
#3309 [18:10] <VoxelHead> virus: There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#3310 [18:10] <VoxelHead> virus: For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
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#3312 [18:11] <mottigenhond> nice
#3313 [18:11] <nevercast> Okay.. Sounds good :)
#3314 [18:11] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: okay, now I'm at 2.2G. :-)
#3315 [18:11] <nevercast> Black Screen Issue, Resolved.
#3316 [18:11] <mottigenhond> i'll just see if i can get it working on ubuntu, so i can play a bit tommorow in class
#3317 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: \o/
#3318 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: thanks!
#3319 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> black screen = lwjgl and avg?
#3320 [18:11] <nevercast> Correct
#3321 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: seemingly
#3322 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Interesting
#3323 [18:11] <Mathuin> No problem, thank you! I was getting sick and tired of pushign around these datasets. :-P
#3324 [18:11] <nevercast> Which makes sense
#3325 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> lwjgl ?= lightweight lava graphics library?
#3326 [18:12] <nevercast> lwjgl is the graphics library
#3327 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#3328 [18:12] <mottigenhond> damn, no luck on linux
#3329 [18:12] <nevercast> and avg was probably stopping it from loading
#3330 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> mottigenhond: ):
#3331 [18:12] <mottigenhond> oh well, i'll try again in the morning
#3332 [18:12] <mottigenhond> might be fixed the
#3333 [18:12] <mottigenhond> n
#3334 [18:12] <Mathuin> lightweight lava. heh. :-)
#3335 [18:12] <nevercast> lol.
#3336 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> heh.
#3337 [18:12] * DopeGhoti speaks fluent Typo.
#3337 [18:12] <Mossa^Hunny> when I upload a skin on my profile nothing happens. same dimensions as original. any toughts?
#3338 [18:12] * mottigenhond thanks everybody and goes to bed
#3338 [18:12] <nevercast> Mossa^Hunny, Have a look in game.
#3339 [18:13] <nevercast> Mossa^Hunny, Sometimes the site fails
#3340 [18:13] <Mathuin> Mossa^Hunny: log into the game. the view-skin-on-the-website thing is busted.
#3341 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> Mossa^Hunny: You won't see skins on the site; check in-game; they should be updated there.
#3342 [18:13] <nevercast> Mossa^Hunny, But it has worked anyway
#3343 [18:13] <Mossa^Hunny> ha, that easy eh.. hehe thanks ^^
#3344 [18:13] <nevercast> :)
#3345 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> (woohoo, my dropbox is up to 5GiB!)
#3346 [18:13] <nevercast> Woo :D
#3347 [18:14] <Arkose> haha, GiB
#3348 [18:14] <nevercast> Arkose, Yeah DopeGhoti says GigaByte correctly.
#3349 [18:14] <nevercast> GiB
#3350 [18:15] <Arkose> gibibyte.
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#3352 [18:15] <Arkose> using GiB may be more accurate but is of no value to normal people
#3353 [18:15] <Mathuin> Arkose: until they get screwed by the difference.
#3354 [18:15] <Arkose> ...
#3355 [18:16] * DopeGhoti is abnormal, but accurate. 1GB < 1GiB.
#3355 [18:16] <Arkose> oh no, I missed out on 24 MB out of my 1GB! Woe is me!
#3356 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Arkose: it's more than you think
#3357 [18:16] <Arkose> how will I ever fit in those last two songs and photos?!
#3358 [18:16] <Mathuin> When you have a 100G datafile and a 100G drive, and you discover the 1048576*1024 file won't fit on your 1000000*1000 drive...
#3359 [18:16] <nevercast> Haha
#3360 [18:16] <Arkose> if 24MB per GB is that much of a difference to you you have other sstorage issues anyway
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#3362 [18:16] <need> can some1 help me
#3363 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Arkose: it's much more than that.
#3364 [18:17] <Mathuin> More like 74, and that's fine for you to say.
#3365 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> !! ask
#3366 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? ask
#3367 [18:17] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3368 [18:17] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3369 [18:17] <need> any1 here play denny's epic freebuild multiplayer server? i need the forums
#3370 [18:17] <nevercast> derp
#3371 [18:17] <nevercast> need, try google.
#3372 [18:17] <need> i have for like 20 mins
#3373 [18:18] <need> well
#3374 [18:18] <need> like 2 hrss
#3375 [18:18] <nevercast> need, try asking in game
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#3377 [18:18] <need> i cant find the server on the server list
#3378 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> you're missing 24 bytes out of each KiB; therefore each MB is missing 24*1024B as well as an additional 24KiB, and on up the chain
#3379 [18:19] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, It's okay. I support you on this :D
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#3386 [18:26] <DeathsAngel> Hello, I have a question. I tried to buy Minecraft but I got the following error: VerifyEasy error Expected parameters missing:
#3387 [18:26] <DeathsAngel> data
#3388 [18:26] <DeathsAngel> currency
#3389 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> DeathsAngel: If this was within the past hour or so, Mojang was doing some extensive work on their web site. Are you buying via a CC or with PayPal?
#3390 [18:27] <DeathsAngel> CC
#3391 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> That was a problem before, mollstam had to talk to the DIBs system people to correct that
#3392 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Is that still happening now?
#3393 [18:28] <DeathsAngel> I'll try again. But it won't charge my CC twice right?
#3394 [18:28] <andrew_> The applet says "Fatal error occured (1): Unable to load logo and progressbar images" This is for Classic. Help?
#3395 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Don't try again, I'd just wait
#3396 [18:29] <DeathsAngel> How long should I wait Grey?
#3397 [18:30] <Jero> So i presume minecraft.net is down?
#3398 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> Jero: no, it should be up
#3399 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> mollstam is still working on the page, maybe a day?
#3400 [18:30] <Jero> Really my client wont connect
#3401 [18:30] <Jero> I downloaded the new client
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#3404 [18:32] <Jero> Whenever I try to log in it says (not downloaded) any help?
#3405 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> Jero: what happens when you try? ("Nothing" is an uncceptable answer).
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#3407 [18:33] <Jero> It says can not connect to minecraft.net and underneath my log in it sayd (not downloaded)
#3408 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> Jero: are you able to go to and log into minecraft.net in a browser?
#3409 [18:34] <Jero> yes
#3410 [18:34] <wiggy90000> hey, I just had to completely re-download minecraft and when I try to log in with the new launcher window it tells me that i cant connect to minecraft.net, and i also cant play offline
#3411 [18:35] <Jero> I changed my password to see if i was typing it in wrong, but it still wont work
#3412 [18:35] <wiggy90000> anybody have any ideas on what i should do?
#3413 [18:36] <Jero> wiggy im having the same problem
#3414 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#3415 [18:36] <wiggy90000> oh really?
#3416 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> From Notch's blog:
#3417 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> "http://notch.tumblr.com/"
#3418 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> in the new launcher, clock Options, and then Force update
#3419 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> "Minecraft.net is suffering some difficulties at the moment, with the database getting overloaded. We’re working hard on fixing the problem."
#3420 [18:37] <Kealper> Mojang is poking minecraft.net with a big stick right now, service might be shaky until tomorrow
#3421 [18:37] <wiggy90000> the options button does nothing for me
#3422 [18:37] <Kealper> grey ninja'd me
#3423 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/reinst
#3424 [18:37] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3425 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> I'm cool like that
#3426 [18:37] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3427 [18:38] <wiggy90000> so does that mean that nobody can login to minecraft and connect to minecraft.net?
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#3429 [18:38] <Static> hello
#3430 [18:38] <Kealper> wiggy90000: just keep trying....you'll get in eventually
#3431 [18:38] <Kealper> hopefully...
#3432 [18:38] <wiggy90000> ive been trying for the past 3 hours which is why thought something was wrong with my minecraft and not just minecraft.net
#3433 [18:39] <Kealper> hmm
#3434 [18:39] <wiggy90000> because if other people can connect and play i dont see why i should be able to
#3435 [18:39] <Static> im getting a black screen after loggin error, i have, updated java, updated vidd drivers, re downloaded the client, and deleted .minecraft, still blck screen
#3436 [18:39] <Jero> I already deleted and redownloaded the file twice but it still wont work
#3437 [18:40] <wiggy90000> also, does everybodys new launcher page look black with blue links over it that are unclickable?
#3438 [18:41] <Kealper> wiggy90000: no, mine looks fine....try clearing Internet Explorer's browser cache/cookies
#3439 [18:41] <wiggy90000> i'm on a mac
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#3441 [18:42] <Kealper> then replace Internet Explorer with Safari and follow the steps lol
#3442 [18:43] <wiggy90000> http://oi51.tinypic.com/30keerk.jpg thats what my launcher looks like
#3443 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Hmm, I haven't tried the new launcher on my mac yet.
#3444 [18:43] <Kealper> yeah that definately ain't normal
#3445 [18:43] <wiggy90000> ive downloaded it twice now, same thing both times
#3446 [18:43] <aetherian> the new launcher is out?
#3447 [18:44] <Kealper> not officially
#3448 [18:44] <Static> Anyone know how to fix this blackscreen im getting?
#3449 [18:44] <aetherian> eh?
#3450 [18:44] <Kealper> Notch "leaked" it
#3451 [18:45] <aetherian> is... is it really a leak if the creator did it?
#3452 [18:45] <wiggy90000> so maybe there are bugs with the new launcher and macs?
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#3455 [18:47] <Guest1390140308> Am I in the right place for minecraft software help?
#3456 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Sure are.
#3457 [18:47] <Guest1390140308> Rad
#3458 [18:48] <Static> im getting a black screen after loggin error, i have, updated java, updated vidd drivers, re downloaded the client, and deleted .minecraft, still blck screen
#3459 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Static - Don't suppose you're running AVG?
#3460 [18:48] <Static> nope
#3461 [18:48] <Static> a2
#3462 [18:48] <Static> and its off actually
#3463 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> OS?
#3464 [18:49] <Guest1390140308> for some reason, my AVG free edition has started flagging a minecraft program file as a trojan
#3465 [18:49] <Static> win 7 32 bit
#3466 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> ??> Guest1390140308 virus
#3467 [18:49] <VoxelHead> Guest1390140308: (virus) There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#3468 [18:49] <VoxelHead> Guest1390140308: (virus) For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#3469 [18:49] <aetherian> hmmm
#3470 [18:50] <aetherian> methinks I shall support the mc documentary
#3471 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Static - Um, Has it worked before? Is this something new?
#3472 [18:50] <Static> a squared seems to have done that
#3473 [18:50] <Guest1390140308> perfect. Countless thanks
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#3475 [18:50] <wiggy90000> any ideas as to what i should do with my broken launcher?
#3476 [18:50] <Static> just checked my quarantine list
#3477 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Static - Ah, interesting. Might want to let others know.
#3478 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> haven't heard of a squared for an AV
#3479 [18:51] <Mathuin> A2 is my hosting provider. :-P
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#3481 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> hmm
#3482 [18:52] <willpignoah> hey guys, my minecraft multiplayer server isn't working properly
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#3484 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific willpignoah?
#3485 [18:53] <willpignoah> Whenever people join, they stay connected for 5-10 seconds, the terrian is all over the place, and the crash information says this : Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.2_02 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_23, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: GeForce 9400/PCI/SSE2 version 2.1.2,
#3486 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the error?
#3487 [18:54] <willpignoah> ok
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#3490 [18:54] <mib_9l4cny> Hello.
#3491 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3492 [18:54] <mib_9l4cny> Can someone here help me with Minecraft?
#3493 [18:54] <nevercast> ?? help
#3494 [18:54] <VoxelHead> help: See http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex for a list of FAQ entries
#3495 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> That's what the channel is for.
#3496 [18:54] <nevercast> derp
#3497 [18:54] <nevercast> ?? ask
#3498 [18:54] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3499 [18:54] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3500 [18:54] <nevercast> I'll get hang of this one day
#3501 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3502 [18:55] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Just got a massive earth quake.. I was trying to sleep lol.
#3503 [18:55] <mib_9l4cny> Well, I thought I'd be polite and ask.. But anyways.
#3504 [18:55] <nevercast> mib_9l4cny, Yeah internet doesn't care for niceities.. it's strange..
#3505 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> We like people to just get straight to the point here, cuts down on the wait time.
#3506 [18:55] <mib_9l4cny> I'm trying to play the classic mode, online. But it only occasionally works. I wanted to actually play the game before I buy it.
#3507 [18:55] <mib_9l4cny> I've only been able to play it once or twice.
#3508 [18:55] <willpignoah> ok im back, here's my pastebin/minecraft error msg: http://pastebin.com/vNuae4Wy
#3509 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific? occasionally works?
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#3512 [18:56] <mib_9l4cny> When I click on server, it either loads with thier custom greeting, and stops, or loads the generic greeting and stops at 'planting.;
#3513 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> willpignoah - What crashes, specifically? The client?
#3514 [18:56] <beruru> hey so um is anyone else getting trojan horse messages when they load minecraft?
#3515 [18:57] <binary> I tar'd my world folder from my server and ftp'd it to my home pc untar'd it and used mceddit on it. re-tar'd it and uploaded it then extracted the changed folder to the home directory after I changed the world folder to world.old . The issue lies in when I restart the server instead of loading the changed level.dat file from the world folder it generates a new world does anybody know
#3516 [18:57] <binary> why?
#3517 [18:57] <mib_9l4cny> The way I know if it is going to work or not is if I scroll, and the image stays there, it'll work. But if the screen turns black, I try again on a different server,.
#3518 [18:57] <willpignoah> minecraft, the game crashes, not the server
#3519 [18:57] <Static> had to disable file guard in a squared and restore the file from quarantine for it to work
#3520 [18:57] <willpignoah> but the server uses 3 times as much memory as usual
#3521 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> beruru virus
#3522 [18:57] <VoxelHead> beruru: (virus) There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#3523 [18:57] <VoxelHead> beruru: (virus) For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#3524 [18:57] <beruru> ok
#3525 [18:57] <mib_9l4cny> Any ideas on wat the problem is?
#3526 [18:58] <mib_9l4cny> ?
#3527 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_9l4cny - Have you updated java, looked at your video drivers?
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#3529 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> The usual suspects?
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#3532 [18:59] <JACKS0NATOR> Sorry, I got disconnected.
#3533 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> willpignoah - Is this a modded client in any way?
#3534 [18:59] <nevercast> beruru, Are you using AVG?
#3535 [18:59] <beruru> yep :/
#3536 [18:59] <nevercast> Yeah
#3537 [18:59] <nevercast> It's a toss of shit
#3538 [18:59] <nevercast> BUT
#3539 [18:59] <binary> use avast :D
#3540 [18:59] <JACKS0NATOR> Does anyone know the fix to my problem?
#3541 [18:59] <binary> or mine?
#3542 [18:59] <nevercast> But some people have said
#3543 [18:59] <nevercast> If you do an avg update
#3544 [19:00] <nevercast> the false-positive
#3545 [19:00] <nevercast> goes away
#3546 [19:00] <willpignoah> no, but i have turned off monsters
#3547 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> JACKS0NATOR - Have you updated java, looked at your video drivers?
#3548 [19:00] <nevercast> But I do recommend, beruru. That you don't use avg
#3549 [19:00] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - Yeah, I've updated my Java, but I'm not too computer-savvy.
#3550 [19:00] <willpignoah> and i stopped it connecting online for awhile (onlinemode=false)
#3551 [19:01] <JACKS0NATOR> I'm not really sure what the problem could be.
#3552 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> JACKS0NATOR: sorry; do you have a one or two line abstract of your problem and what you've tried thus far?
#3553 [19:01] <JACKS0NATOR> I think I'm lagging right now.
#3554 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> JACKS0NATOR - At this point, I'd say try and uninstall java completely, and reinstall it. Fresh install might give some perspective
#3555 [19:02] <JACKS0NATOR> DopeGhoti - You're confusing me.
#3556 [19:02] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - Alright. I've been able to play multiplayer before though. Like I said, it just rarely works.
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#3558 [19:03] * GreyVulpine nods
#3558 [19:03] <binary> >.>
#3559 [19:03] <JACKS0NATOR> So, the link is on the Minecraft site, am I right?
#3560 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> !client
#3561 [19:03] <binary> <.<
#3562 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> JACKS0NATOR - Uninstall java from your computer, then go to java.com for the latest java
#3563 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> binary - Hmm?
#3564 [19:04] <binary> Shall I repaste my lengthy question?
#3565 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> binary - You're messing around with tarring a world, moving it somewhere else, MCediting it, and moving it back, and the server not recognizing it?
#3566 [19:04] <beruru> yeah, updating AVG fixed it (also i can't uninstall it but i *want* to glub glub)
#3567 [19:04] <binary> yes sir
#3568 [19:04] <binary> that is correct
#3569 [19:04] <binary> no it sees it
#3570 [19:04] <binary> it just generates a new world
#3571 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Is it in the same folder name when you move it back?
#3572 [19:04] <binary> instead of using it
#3573 [19:04] <binary> BUT
#3574 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> In the same format
#3575 [19:04] <nevercast> Another fuckin' earthquake.. God damn!
#3576 [19:04] <binary> if i rename world.old to world
#3577 [19:04] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - Okay. ALSO! I forgot to mention, when the screen turns back and doesn't load, Java icons pile up on the side of my screen, and also, it places word documents on my desktop talking about some fatal error.
#3578 [19:04] <binary> it loads the backup fine
#3579 [19:05] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - What's the deal with that?
#3580 [19:05] <Netu> Is a server using 71.9% of memory acceptable? Any suggestions how to reduce server memory usage?
#3581 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> JACKS0NATOR - if you could pastebin.com some of those files, it might give us a clearer picture of what's wrong?
#3582 [19:05] <nevercast> JACKS0NATOR, One problem at a time.
#3583 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> the error logs could profide some insight. pastebin one?
#3584 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> Netu retro
#3585 [19:05] <nevercast> Java Icons?
#3586 [19:05] <VoxelHead> Netu: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#3587 [19:05] <VoxelHead> Netu: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#3588 [19:05] <JACKS0NATOR> Alright, I'll try that. :P
#3589 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> binary - Hmm, are you running the latest MCedit?
#3590 [19:05] <binary> yepers
#3591 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Also, what are you doing in MCedit, to that world?
#3592 [19:06] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - Do I just copy and paste the report onto there?
#3593 [19:06] <binary> I am clearing a big area for a city in our server
#3594 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Can you try just opening the world in MCedit, and immediately saving it right after, see if the server likes that?
#3595 [19:06] <Netu> VoxelHead: That is extremely unhelpful spam you have there, but thanks for not only not answering my question but also avoiding actually trying to be helpful.
#3596 [19:06] <binary> I did indeed try that as well
#3597 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> binary - Does it still do that?
#3598 [19:06] <nevercast> Netu, VoxelHead is a bot! LOL
#3599 [19:06] <binary> hey netu wank off
#3600 [19:07] <binary> herp a derp
#3601 [19:07] <Netu> Oh, fffu, well whoever ??'d me then.
#3602 [19:07] <binary> LOL
#3603 [19:07] <nevercast> ROFL
#3604 [19:07] <JACKS0NATOR> http://pastebin.com/hTSYNXfW There you go.
#3605 [19:07] <willpignoah> sorry guys, im not trying to be inpatient, i just want to check if someone is still looking into my problem.
#3606 [19:07] <JACKS0NATOR> This is my dad's computer, so try not to make me do anything too crazy to it.
#3607 [19:07] <nevercast> Netu, If you want your server to use less percent of your ram.. get more ram.
#3608 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> Netu: Minecraft uses lots of RAM; it's a nature of the beast.
#3609 [19:07] <nevercast> ^
#3610 [19:07] <binary> a lot of ram dude
#3611 [19:07] <nevercast> like OVER9000
#3612 [19:08] <binary> the ram increases the further you change in the chunks and more players on the server
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#3614 [19:08] <Netu> Fair enough. No easy solutions, no matter where I ask. I suppose the bullet must be bit. :(
#3615 [19:08] <binary> 4 gigs is good for likw 15 people
#3616 [19:08] <aetherian> over 9000 bytes.
#3617 [19:08] <heftig> trying to run a server. If I try to connect, the server immediately kicks my client with "You need to log in!", causing the client to crash.
#3618 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> ??> heftig smp/needlogin
#3619 [19:08] <VoxelHead> heftig: (smp/needlogin) If you get the message "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!" when joining a server, you are attempting to join a Classic server.
#3620 [19:08] <VoxelHead> heftig: (smp/needlogin) If you are running the server, you downloaded the wrong software. The correct software is on the same page where you download the client.
#3621 [19:08] <nevercast> aetherian, I was going to go with 9000 Mib
#3622 [19:08] <aetherian> ehh
#3623 [19:08] <aetherian> not quite
#3624 [19:08] <JACKS0NATOR> Did anyone look at my crazy error report that they keep placing on my desktop? - http://pastebin.com/hTSYNXfW
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#3626 [19:09] <binary> 4096 min on the mb
#3627 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> JACKS0NATOR - I'd start with a total uninstall/reinstall of java
#3628 [19:09] <binary> imo
#3629 [19:09] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - Alright. Does IRC take Java? Or can I keep this open? <--- Not tech savvy.
#3630 [19:09] <binary> yea yoll be fine
#3631 [19:09] <binary> but
#3632 [19:09] <binary> yoll have to restart
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#3634 [19:09] <binary> so irc wont be
#3635 [19:09] <binary> youll*
#3636 [19:09] <Arkose> you're chatting from Mibbit, so you'll ahve to close your browser. Because of the Java plugin.
#3637 [19:09] <brambo> are you guys talking bout the java binary crash thingy that really really annoys me?
#3638 [19:10] <JACKS0NATOR> Alright. I'll be back then. :P
#3639 [19:10] <Kealper> binary: are you big endian or little endian?
#3640 [19:10] <heftig> DopeGhoti: ah, thanks. that makes sense
#3641 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> willpignoah - Try a reinstall of minecraft
#3642 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#3643 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> heftig: hope that helps (:
#3644 [19:10] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3645 [19:10] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3646 [19:10] <binary> wow big or little endian
#3647 [19:10] <binary> thats some nerdy talk breh
#3648 [19:10] <binary> big endian ftw
#3649 [19:11] <Kealper> you're the one with the name binary >.>
#3650 [19:11] <Kealper> yuk
#3651 [19:11] <Kealper> little
#3652 [19:11] <binary> lol
#3653 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> ./~ One little two little three little endians.. ./~
#3654 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> At least it's not as bad as the guy that came by yesterday with the nick of "bit"... responded to everything with either "yes" or "no"
#3655 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Got kicked quick
#3656 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> heh
#3657 [19:11] <binary> lmao
#3658 [19:11] <binary> i should resond with 1 or 0
#3659 [19:11] <binary> respond*
#3660 [19:11] <binary> or on or off
#3661 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Yes, do that. only use \000 and \001
#3662 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> that we we can not be bothered with your output.
#3663 [19:12] * JACKS0NATOR [JACKS0NATOR@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3664 [19:12] <JACKS0NATOR> Back.
#3665 [19:12] <beruru> bit was here too?
#3666 [19:12] <beruru> bit was in the MSPA channels @-@
#3667 [19:12] <binary> link outout to null :o
#3668 [19:12] <binary> output*
#3669 [19:12] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - It's installing now. But I had the same thing I downloaded on my desktop already from when I downloaded it yesterday.
#3670 [19:13] <binary> yo jacks
#3671 [19:13] <heftig> DopeGhoti: yep, it works, thanks.
#3672 [19:13] <JACKS0NATOR> Yeah?
#3673 [19:13] <heftig> are the alternative servers any good?
#3674 [19:13] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3675 [19:13] <binary> you wil have to uninstall then restartthe install and restart for a complete "clean" uninstall/reinstall
#3676 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> heftig: yay!
#3677 [19:13] <binary> restart then install restart *
#3678 [19:14] <JACKS0NATOR> Alright. I'm restarting the install. I'll restart the computer after it installs.
#3679 [19:14] <JACKS0NATOR> Wait, what?
#3680 [19:14] <JACKS0NATOR> It just installed already. lol.
#3681 [19:14] <JACKS0NATOR> Let me restart..
#3682 [19:14] <binary> lol no
#3683 [19:14] <binary> i meant the computer
#3684 [19:14] <JACKS0NATOR> No what?
#3685 [19:14] <binary> but you got it
#3686 [19:14] <JACKS0NATOR> -confused-
#3687 [19:14] <binary> dissregaurd what i said
#3688 [19:14] <JACKS0NATOR> Restart now?
#3689 [19:14] <binary> no
#3690 [19:15] <JACKS0NATOR> I am so confused.
#3691 [19:15] <binary> 0
#3692 [19:15] <JACKS0NATOR> WAT DO?
#3693 [19:15] <binary> 0
#3694 [19:15] <Kealper> lol
#3695 [19:15] <JACKS0NATOR> What?
#3696 [19:15] <JACKS0NATOR> :(
#3697 [19:15] <binary> delete system 32 have minecraft run faster
#3698 [19:15] <JACKS0NATOR> Hahaha.
#3699 [19:15] <JACKS0NATOR> No.
#3700 [19:15] <binary> 0
#3701 [19:15] <binary> no i was telling you to restart after doing the install
#3702 [19:16] <binary> but you got it
#3703 [19:16] <binary> so nvm
#3704 [19:16] <JACKS0NATOR> Oh, okay.
#3705 [19:16] <JACKS0NATOR> be right back.
#3706 [19:16] <Kealper> it's 0x00000000 btw
#3707 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> binary: trolling like that in a support channel will get you excommunicated quite quickly.
#3708 [19:16] <Kealper> not just 0
#3709 [19:16] <heftig> only on systems with 32-bit words
#3710 [19:16] <binary> well although in memory that is true
#3711 [19:16] <binary> in theory
#3712 [19:16] <binary> 0 does equal off
#3713 [19:16] <binary> and 1 on
#3714 [19:16] <Kealper> 0x0000000000000000 ftw?
#3715 [19:17] <heftig> or 0x0000
#3716 [19:17] <heftig> or 0x00
#3717 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> 0x0 works.
#3718 [19:17] <Kealper> 16 bit ftl
#3719 [19:17] <Kealper> 8 bit even more ftl
#3720 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> 1bit FTW
#3721 [19:17] <binary> 1 bit bus?
#3722 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> you and your fancy extra bits
#3723 [19:17] <binary> shit brix
#3724 [19:17] <Kealper> lol
#3725 [19:17] <Netu> Okay, so, perhaps to redeem my stupid question from earlier. I read this: http://pastebin.com/3xP4Kn6h -- is there a way to do that for Minecraft? "Optimize" using a shell or the like? (Yes, getting more RAM, got it, but money's tight, you know? :()
#3726 [19:18] * beruru [beruru@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#3727 [19:18] <binary> k check it
#3728 [19:18] <binary> on your dedi have the specs be at least a dual core with 4 gigs
#3729 [19:18] <binary> have the os be a simplistic nix based distro
#3730 [19:18] * GLaDOS kicked binary from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: im sorry, you have joined the wrong channel. did you mean: #minecraft?)
#3731 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> GLaDOS: Did you mean #mcchatter?
#3732 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> (:
#3733 [19:19] <GLaDOS> pff, no
#3734 [19:19] <GLaDOS> thats the on topic chat
#3735 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#3736 [19:19] <GLaDOS> Netu: im sure theres a couple of mods that help optimize
#3737 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> Netu: I'm not sure what you're asking.. Minecraft will work on a Xen VPS, yes, but you still need enough RAM.
#3738 [19:19] <Kealper> that banmask is attrocious
#3739 [19:19] <GLaDOS> i need the full one
#3740 [19:19] <GLaDOS> mibbit user uses mibbit
#3741 [19:19] <GLaDOS> feel free
#3742 [19:20] <Netu> DopeGhoti: Well, the amount of RAM I have has time and time again been said "is enough for 15 players!" I get ~8 on and lag just gets really annoying, because, I assume, of memory swapping.
#3743 [19:20] <Kealper> i don't have his hostname :/
#3744 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> Netu: how much RAM are we talking here in terms of "enough"?
#3745 [19:20] <Kealper> and he's not worth scrolling up toread the join message
#3746 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> Netu: you can check swap usage with `free -m`
#3747 [19:21] <Netu> 1.5gigs... But many, many hosts are saying that is enough. Spec-wise, it really "is." And very sadly it truly is all I can afford...
#3748 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> The server running anything _but_ Minecraft?
#3749 [19:21] <`\> Gentlemen.
#3750 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> (and mods, apache, SQL server, anything else?)
#3751 [19:21] <Netu> LAMP, yes.
#3752 [19:21] * JACKS0NATOR [JACKS0NATOR@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3753 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> kill A and M.
#3754 [19:21] <JACKS0NATOR> Back. Still not working. :\
#3755 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> (the P will die with A)
#3756 [19:21] <Netu> Minecraft requires M. :(
#3757 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> uh, no it doesn't.
#3758 [19:21] <Netu> And I use P to do M. :P
#3759 [19:22] <Netu> DopeGhoti: It does, I fear; I use it to make quests and manipulate my users.
#3760 [19:22] <Kealper> eew
#3761 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> So you are running mods
#3762 [19:22] <Kealper> mods
#3763 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> that will increase memory needs by leaps and bounds
#3764 [19:22] <Kealper> hardcore mods, at that
#3765 [19:22] <JACKS0NATOR> Everyone that was helping me is now gone. Can anyone here help?
#3766 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> Axe the mods, watch lag go away
#3767 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> and then install the "Wait for the official mod API" mod.
#3768 [19:22] <Netu> Hm, okay, well, first time I've heard that (which seems funny really), so I will begin axing mods, then.
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#3770 [19:23] <Kealper> Netu: using hMod?
#3771 [19:23] <Netu> I only have 24 running~
#3772 [19:23] <Kealper> or Bukkit?
#3773 [19:23] <Netu> NetuMod. 8D
#3774 [19:23] <Rui_rui> Hello
#3775 [19:23] <GLaDOS> im sorry, what is P again?
#3776 [19:23] <JACKS0NATOR> Hello.
#3777 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> PHP.
#3778 [19:23] <GLaDOS> Postgres or something
#3779 [19:23] <Netu> PHPMyAdmin
#3780 [19:23] <Kealper> GLaDOS: PHP
#3781 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP -> LAMP
#3782 [19:23] <heftig> could also mean Perl, but that's rare
#3783 [19:23] <Kealper> XAMPP ftw
#3784 [19:23] * r0w [r0w@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3785 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> compare LAPP, WAMP, WAPP
#3786 [19:23] * geraldbrent [geraldbrent@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3787 [19:24] <Rui_rui> How do I check an ip address? is it !check address?
#3788 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Xen, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL, PHP?
#3789 [19:24] <Kealper> Rui_rui: yes
#3790 [19:24] <GLaDOS> :binary Seems like I am being trolled I didn't do anything to deserve a ban.:
#3791 [19:24] <GLaDOS> i smell bullshit
#3792 [19:24] <geraldbrent> agreed
#3793 [19:24] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: no, X is for all OSes, it's available for windows, nix, and mac iirc
#3794 [19:24] <Rui_rui> !check 174.109.157.115
#3795 [19:24] <heftig> DopeGhoti: no, xampp.org
#3796 [19:24] <AG_Clinton> Why use xampp or wamp?
#3797 [19:24] <Kealper> and it's Apache, MySQL, PHP, Perl
#3798 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> GLaDOS: he was also spewing crap like "delete system32 to make MC rin faster trololol"; keep him gone
#3799 [19:25] <heftig> AG_Clinton: development environment, I'd assume
#3800 [19:25] <AG_Clinton> But but why in a package like that?
#3801 [19:25] <AG_Clinton> Why not just individually?
#3802 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> (also you have his hostmask now)
#3803 [19:25] <JACKS0NATOR> Hmm.
#3804 [19:25] <JACKS0NATOR> can anyone here help?
#3805 [19:25] <heftig> AG_Clinton: convenience, obviously
#3806 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> AG_Clinton: some "admins" are lazy?
#3807 [19:25] <Netu> Thank you all for your assistance. I hope removing plugins works. My final question, promise: I've read threads of people using very specific command lines when starting their servers with their shells. Is there actually a "best one" for a VPS? People just post what they say is "best" and I don't know these parameters and do not wish to bork something.
#3808 [19:25] <Kealper> that is 110% why i installed it AG_Clinton :P
#3809 [19:25] * AG_Clinton is confused
#3809 [19:25] <Rui_rui> Ever since Minecraft's been back up, I haven't been able to access my server... Keeps giving me the "Connection Timed Out: Connect" error.
#3810 [19:26] <geraldbrent> !check minecraft.net
#3811 [19:26] <Kealper> easier to have it all properly configured from a package, and just tweek it to my needs instead of do it all myself
#3812 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Netu: The extra -X switches are largely subjective and a matter of debate.
#3813 [19:26] <JACKS0NATOR> Where should I go to get some help on this?
#3814 [19:26] <heftig> Netu: the default one is recommended, as far as I know, but the 1GB heap could be too big for small VPSes. at least that's my opinion
#3815 [19:26] <Netu> DopeGhoti: That's the issue, exactly! Heh. I get all lost in the debates on the forum... For an amateur such as myself, I get confused and unsure which to use...
#3816 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> Netu: I'd just go with the default, and possibly disable IPv6
#3817 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> ??> Netu java/ipv6
#3818 [19:27] <VoxelHead> Netu: (java/ipv6) Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#3819 [19:27] <VoxelHead> Netu: (java/ipv6) -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#3820 [19:27] <GLaDOS> !check minecraft.net:80
#3821 [19:27] <GLaDOS> silly geraldbrent
#3822 [19:27] <heftig> DopeGhoti: is that noticeably slower?
#3823 [19:27] * JACKS0NATOR [JACKS0NATOR@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#3824 [19:28] <GLaDOS> ...
#3825 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> heftig: The client doesn't support IPv6, so there's no reason to have the server support it, and sometimes it binds to the v6 address _only_ by default
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#3827 [19:28] * GLaDOS slaps AuBot around a bit with an unnessecary large piece of trout
#3827 [19:28] <Kealper> !check minecraft.net:80
#3828 [19:28] <Rui_rui> Umm... So... are ALL the servers down or is it just mine? :/
#3829 [19:28] <Kealper> O.o
#3830 [19:28] <Kealper> !enable
#3831 [19:28] <Kealper> o.o
#3832 [19:28] <Kealper> wait a tick
#3833 [19:28] <heftig> DopeGhoti: that's weird. hasn't happened to me at all (the server supports ipv6)
#3834 [19:28] <Kealper> !listignores
#3835 [19:29] <Kealper> lol
#3836 [19:29] <Kealper> !listen GLaDOS
#3837 [19:29] <Rui_rui> ...?
#3838 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> `\: seriously?
#3839 [19:30] * Morokai [Morokai@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3840 [19:30] <`\> Yessah, DopeGhoti,.
#3841 [19:30] <Kealper> `\: choose a real nickname, please
#3842 [19:30] * JACKS0NATOR [JACKS0NATOR@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3843 [19:30] <`\> This is a real nickname?
#3844 [19:31] <Kealper> not by my standards
#3845 [19:31] * DopeGhoti sets more strick nickspam paramaters.
#3845 [19:31] <`\> I use this on most of my channels
#3846 [19:31] <`\> Just found out it wasn't occupied on this server
#3847 [19:31] <Morokai> is skin uploading down? site currently appears to not be saving the skin I am submitting.
#3848 [19:31] <JACKS0NATOR> I'm getting frustrated. Can anyone help?
#3849 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Morokai: skins will show in-game, just not in-site.
#3850 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Morokai - It should work, check in-game once you upload it
#3851 [19:31] <`\> What do you need help with?
#3852 [19:31] <Morokai> ok
#3853 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> JACKS0NATOR - Are you still getting those errors?
#3854 [19:31] <Morokai> thanks
#3855 [19:31] <JACKS0NATOR> Yup.
#3856 [19:31] <JACKS0NATOR> It didn't fixa thing.
#3857 [19:32] * STC [STC@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3858 [19:32] * `\ scrolls up to see what happened
#3858 [19:32] <JACKS0NATOR> It was forever ago, I can re-describe my problem if you'd like.
#3859 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, try a wipe of your browser's cache?
#3860 [19:33] * STC [STC@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#3861 [19:33] <GLaDOS> let me give him one more chance/get his hostmask
#3862 [19:33] <Kealper> that's cold hearted lol
#3863 [19:33] <Kealper> i like your style :o
#3864 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Man, you people and your nick bans...
#3865 [19:33] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - Alright. Should I try loading it again?
#3866 [19:33] <Kealper> i know right? isn't it so bad?
#3867 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#3868 [19:33] <JACKS0NATOR> Alright, I'll do that.
#3869 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: binary [lol@ip68-102-76-104.ks.ok.cox.net]
#3870 [19:34] <`\> JACKS0NATOR's problem is too far back in my logs to find, what happened?
#3871 [19:34] <Morokai> !check 68.205.136.51:25565
#3872 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Um, java on minecraft classic issue, doesn't always load for JACKS0NATOR.
#3873 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> java spits out tons of errors
#3874 [19:34] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - Still having that problem.
#3875 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/hTSYNXfW
#3876 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> That's was one that JACKS0NATOR gave us
#3877 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes it loads, sometimes blackscreens, etc.
#3878 [19:34] <JACKS0NATOR> It has put about 20 of those on my desktop, with different names.
#3879 [19:35] <JACKS0NATOR> It usually doesn't load. I've only been able to play once or twice.
#3880 [19:35] <JACKS0NATOR> And I build a tree.
#3881 [19:35] <JACKS0NATOR> built*
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#3883 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> JACKS0NATOR - what video card are you running?
#3884 [19:35] * Kealper throws on some Rush
#3884 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> JACKS0NATOR: running 32-bit Windows? or 64?
#3885 [19:36] <Morokai> and now it says the port itsself is offline
#3886 [19:36] <Morokai> no idea ow that happened
#3887 [19:36] <Morokai> was working fine earlier today
#3888 [19:36] <JACKS0NATOR> I have no clue, it's my dad's computer. How could I check?
#3889 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> press win+pause
#3890 [19:36] <`\> JACKS0NATOR, do you get runtime errors ocassionally on any applications?
#3891 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> look on the right-hand side of that window
#3892 [19:36] <`\> This looks suspiciously like corrupted RAM
#3893 [19:37] <`\> E.g. RUNTIME ERROR: 0x9000D blah blah
#3894 [19:37] <JACKS0NATOR> Runtime errors? I'm not tech-savvy.
#3895 [19:37] * DopeGhoti waits for information.
#3895 [19:37] <heftig> JACKS0NATOR: frequent crashes of other applications
#3896 [19:37] <JACKS0NATOR> Oh, no. This is the only problem I've had so far.
#3897 [19:37] <binary> Do applications that require java just crash ever jacks?
#3898 [19:37] <JACKS0NATOR> Nope, never.
#3899 [19:37] <`\> Nevermind then.
#3900 [19:37] <heftig> seems to be a crash in the java opengl library
#3901 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> JACKS0NATOR: press win+pause
#3902 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> JACKS0NATOR: look on the right-hand side of that window
#3903 [19:37] <JACKS0NATOR> Also, when I'm on the site. When I go to different plages it says I'm logged out sometimes.
#3904 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> JACKS0NATOR: does it say '64-bit' or 'x64'?
#3905 [19:37] <JACKS0NATOR> 'Win Pause = wtf?'
#3906 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/key
#3907 [19:37] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#3908 [19:37] <`\> Have you guys already suggested java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame ?
#3909 [19:37] <VoxelHead> win/key: Meanwhile, send an angry letter to keyboard manufacturers for not calling it Meta, Super, or something else more reasonable.
#3910 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> '\ - It's for classic
#3911 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Not beta
#3912 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Browser only
#3913 [19:38] <heftig> DopeGhoti: it's windows XP, I doubt it
#3914 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> heftig: so do I, but I wanted to double-check
#3915 [19:38] <JACKS0NATOR> What's the pause key?
#3916 [19:38] <JACKS0NATOR> I'm a noob.
#3917 [19:38] <binary> pause/break key
#3918 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> above PgUp, with 'Pause' written on it?
#3919 [19:38] <binary> above end
#3920 [19:39] <JACKS0NATOR> FOUND IT.
#3921 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> YAY
#3922 [19:39] <JACKS0NATOR> Ok, look where now?
#3923 [19:39] <Morokai> !check 192.168.3.6:25565
#3924 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> on the window that appears, does it say anything about '64-bit' or 'x64' where it talks about the version of Windows you've got installed?
#3925 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> Also, does it say Service Pack 2? or 3?
#3926 [19:39] <Morokai> !check 68.205.136.51:25565
#3927 [19:39] <JACKS0NATOR> Service Pack 23.
#3928 [19:39] <JACKS0NATOR> WHOA.
#3929 [19:40] <JACKS0NATOR> 2*
#3930 [19:40] <binary> does anybody that has experiance in mcedit using level.dat's from smp servers feel like having a private chat with me?
#3931 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods > binary
#3932 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> ??> binary mods
#3933 [19:40] <VoxelHead> binary: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3934 [19:40] <JACKS0NATOR> DopeGhoti - Service Pack 2, but doesn't say anything about 64-bit.
#3935 [19:40] <VoxelHead> binary: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3936 [19:40] <binary> ah
#3937 [19:40] <Kealper> JACKS0NATOR: try updating to service pack 3
#3938 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> JACKS0NATOR: okay, your copy of Windows it waaaay out-of-date. Go to Windowsupdate.com and get that fixed.
#3939 [19:40] <binary> mcedit is considered a mod?
#3940 [19:41] <Kealper> i've seen issues come from not having sp3
#3941 [19:41] <Morokai> anyone know how to put an offline port online?
#3942 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> binary: it's a third-party non-supported tool, yes
#3943 [19:41] <binary> Ok gotcha
#3944 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Morokai - Hmm?
#3945 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Morokai - For a server?
#3946 [19:41] <Morokai> I have already done all the necessary port forwarding and have been using the server for a day.
#3947 [19:41] <Morokai> port forwarding program now says port os offline and cannot be reached, when previously it wa slisted as online even when the port test itsself failed
#3948 [19:42] <Morokai> yes, for server
#3949 [19:42] <JACKS0NATOR> DopeGhoti - Alright, I'll do that.
#3950 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> JACKS0NATOR: good luck!
#3951 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Double check your port forwarding settings, making sure that the IP address it's pointing to hasn't changed
#3952 [19:42] <JACKS0NATOR> DopeGhoti - Thank you. I need it. :P
#3953 [19:43] <Morokai> it still says it is incorrect for all IP's
#3954 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Could you try checking manually, without the tool?
#3955 [19:43] <Morokai> where would I do that?
#3956 [19:44] <JACKS0NATOR> Will I need to reboot?
#3957 [19:44] <Morokai> I can not use the ipconfig command.
#3958 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Morokai - IE, without the tool, log into your router or modem, and checking by your own
#3959 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> ... why can't you?
#3960 [19:44] <Morokai> because I deleted everything from the path variable while attempting to put java on there
#3961 [19:44] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#3961 [19:45] <`\> hahaha
#3962 [19:45] <Morokai> the tutorials wer enot specific enough
#3963 [19:45] <`\> <Morokai> I can not use the ipconfig command.
#3964 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> JACKS0NATOR: you need to reboot after nearly all Windows Updates.
#3965 [19:45] <binary> Hey use ipconfig under a command line that has been opened with admin rights.
#3966 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Okay, What OS are you on?
#3967 [19:45] <Morokai> me?
#3968 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> We can get somebody here with the same OS, to give you their PATH variable
#3969 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes Morokai
#3970 [19:45] <nevercast> Yeah.. My country just got fucked... Earthquake was a 6.3 at 5k's down.. and yeah, buildings destroyed and shit..
#3971 [19:46] <Morokai> vista
#3972 [19:46] <`\> open cmd
#3973 [19:46] <`\> type cd C:\WINDOWS\system32
#3974 [19:46] <`\> then ipconfig
#3975 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: holy crap. Hope your family, friends, and loved ones are okay
#3976 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> nevercast - Geebus.
#3977 [19:46] <`\> I want to make a terrible joke.
#3978 [19:46] <`\> But I will refrain.
#3979 [19:46] <binary> Yea man I hope you guys are ok as well what country are you in?
#3980 [19:46] <Kealper> nevercast: wait what? when?
#3981 [19:46] <`\> Morokai, did that work for you?
#3982 [19:47] <nevercast> Kealper, about 5 minutes ago.
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#3984 [19:47] <Kealper> holy shit
#3985 [19:47] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Yeah well my older sister is unknown of.. can't get hold of her
#3986 [19:47] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Several friends I'm unable to contact.
#3987 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: I hope it's just overloaded cell service
#3988 [19:47] * DopeGhoti sends positive thoughts nevercast-ward
#3988 [19:47] <nevercast> Thanks DopeGhoti .
#3989 [19:48] <`\> Morokai, results?
#3990 [19:48] <Kealper> wow...that shit is pretty hardcore....i hope everyone is ok o.o
#3991 [19:48] <binary> are you in new zealand ?
#3992 [19:48] <Kealper> binary: he is
#3993 [19:48] <Morokai> I honestly don't know what to look for
#3994 [19:49] <Morokai> it shows every ip I tested
#3995 [19:49] <binary> wow yea they just got hit hard
#3996 [19:49] <binary> hope your sister is ok at a minimum
#3997 [19:49] <nevercast> binary, yeah
#3998 [19:49] <aetherian> `\ o.o
#3999 [19:49] <Morokai> and like I said server was fine yesterday, was playing with multiple people
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#4001 [19:49] <nevercast> No word from my sister, but heard from some mates.. they good.
#4002 [19:49] <`\> sup, aetherian.
#4003 [19:50] <aetherian> interesting name, I like it.
#4004 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> that's something. hope you get word from your syster soonish
#4005 [19:50] <`\> Wait...why did we get Morokai to use ipconfig anyway?
#4006 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> To double check port forwarding settings
#4007 [19:50] <`\> Who suggested that, and why?
#4008 [19:50] <`\> I see.
#4009 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> going home soon, then I can install TeamViewer
#4010 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Morokai used one of those port forwarding tools
#4011 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> I suggested manually checking
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#4013 [19:51] <JACKS0NATOR> I'm back.
#4014 [19:51] <JACKS0NATOR> Didn't fix the problem.
#4015 [19:51] <Shadow386> why do people have the most weirdest irc names?
#4016 [19:52] <JACKS0NATOR> lol.
#4017 [19:52] <Morokai> I don't know which thing to look at to manually check
#4018 [19:52] <AG_Clinton> I thought my name was pretty normal.
#4019 [19:52] <Morokai> like I said it shows every possible ip
#4020 [19:52] <Morokai> I do not know which one is the correct one
#4021 [19:52] <Shadow386> canyouseeme.org is a good way to check if the port is open when you start the server
#4022 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Morokai - How is the server connected to the router?
#4023 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Wireless? Ethernet?
#4024 [19:52] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - It didn't fix anything. Any other ideas?
#4025 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> JACKS0NATOR - Video card possibly?
#4026 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Could you provide a dxdiag?
#4027 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? dxdiag
#4028 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> bah
#4029 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#4030 [19:53] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4031 [19:53] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4032 [19:53] <Morokai> I think I got it to work
#4033 [19:53] <JACKS0NATOR> You want me to do that?
#4034 [19:53] <Morokai> using exactly the same things I have been doing
#4035 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes JACKS0NATOR
#4036 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> JACKS0NATOR: so you have all updates from windowsupdate.com? No new updates show when you go there?
#4037 [19:53] <Morokai> its just being stupid today
#4038 [19:53] <JACKS0NATOR> Nope, none.
#4039 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> k, just checking
#4040 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> you show as having SP3 now on the Win+Pause screen, yes?
#4041 [19:55] <JACKS0NATOR> DopeGhoti - Oddly, no. Hmm..
#4042 [19:55] <`\> Somebody make sure he has NAT off
#4043 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> that's rather broken.
#4044 [19:55] <`\> Iḿ going afk to minecraft
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#4046 [19:56] <Morokai> also, it is currently connected with both
#4047 [19:56] <Morokai> just realise dyou asked that question
#4048 [19:56] <nevercast> dopeghoti, If you're interested : http://news.msn.co.nz/article/8214610/huge-6-3-magnitude-earthquake-strikes-canterbury
#4049 [19:56] <JACKS0NATOR> http://pastebin.com/RFwe6Yui There yo go.
#4050 [19:56] <Bucksatan> hey, im having a problem loading Minecraft. I get to the login screen, log in, then the screen goes black
#4051 [19:57] <JACKS0NATOR> Sounds familiar...
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#4053 [19:57] <Morokai> make sur eyou wait a min before exiting
#4054 [19:57] <xales> ??> Bucksatan win/reinst
#4055 [19:57] <VoxelHead> Bucksatan: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4056 [19:57] <VoxelHead> Bucksatan: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4057 [19:57] <Morokai> though there have been a few people that have had issues
#4058 [19:57] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - http://pastebin.com/RFwe6Yui There you go.
#4059 [19:58] <Blitz_9100> I was wondering if anyone knows why its hard to run minecraft on ubuntu 10.10
#4060 [19:58] <xales> JACKS0NATOR: What's the problem you are experiencing?
#4061 [19:58] <Blitz_9100> I have the crash logs and base info pasted already
#4062 [19:58] <Bucksatan> thanks guys, apretiated :D
#4063 [19:58] <xales> Blitz_9100: It's not hard...what part are you having trouble with?
#4064 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> xales - Classic, black screen, occasionally loads
#4065 [19:58] <Blitz_9100> http://pastebin.com/YEtiwJyK, Could some take a look at it
#4066 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> constant java errors
#4067 [19:58] <xales> GreyVulpine: Well
#4068 [19:58] * GreyVulpine pokes xales with http://pastebin.com/hTSYNXfW
#4068 [19:58] <xales> that computer
#4069 [19:58] <xales> yeah
#4070 [19:58] <Blitz_9100> I installed the sun jdk already
#4071 [19:58] <xales> sucks
#4072 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#4073 [19:59] <xales> to put it nicely
#4074 [19:59] <JACKS0NATOR> I know..
#4075 [19:59] <JACKS0NATOR> It's my dads.
#4076 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Reisntalled java, upgraded to SP3, yeah
#4077 [19:59] <xales> Blitz_9100: What's the problem then?
#4078 [19:59] <JACKS0NATOR> Mine isn't much better though.
#4079 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking it's the video card JACKS0NATOR
#4080 [19:59] <Blitz_9100> Have you looked at the paste? >> http://pastebin.com/YEtiwJyK
#4081 [19:59] <JACKS0NATOR> Hmm. I can play other games though fine.
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#4085 [20:00] <Blitz_9100> Its crashing on login
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#4087 [20:00] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - I went back to windowsupdate.com, and there are 71 updates for me. But they're all security updates for Windows XP.
#4088 [20:00] <xales> Blitz_9100: Well, I see why
#4089 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> JACKS0NATOR - Could you look into finding a video card update at
#4090 [20:01] <xales> Memory: 496.6 MIB
#4091 [20:01] <xales> That's not even close to enough to run Minecraft
#4092 [20:01] <xales> Minecraft allocated 1GB at startup
#4093 [20:01] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - I don't even know what I'd be doing. lol.
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#4095 [20:01] <xales> And that video card wouldn't run it
#4096 [20:01] <xales> =\
#4097 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&SystemID=DIM_P4_4600&os=WW1&osl=EN
#4098 [20:01] <JACKS0NATOR> xales - Me? Or Blitz?
#4099 [20:01] <dopeghoti> JACKS0NATOR: Most security updates don't have anything to do with security. Even so; this is why I told you to get _all_ updates.
#4100 [20:01] <xales> Blitz
#4101 [20:01] <Blitz_9100> oh ok
#4102 [20:02] <Blitz_9100> Thanks for the help
#4103 [20:02] <xales> mhmm, sorry =/
#4104 [20:02] <Blitz_9100> Guess I should go looking for a new computer
#4105 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Download the driver marked for "82865G Graphics Controller"
#4106 [20:02] <JACKS0NATOR> DopeGhoti - I did all that were listed, but there is 71 more. lol.
#4107 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> It looks like there's an updated version for you out
#4108 [20:02] <dopeghoti> JACKS0NATOR: you ahve to keep going back after each reboot until it tells you there are no more.
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#4110 [20:02] <xales> Blitz_9100: Yeah, probably time for that. The computer you have is more or less ancient, from the looks of that
#4111 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> You're running driver version 2/10/2004
#4112 [20:02] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - I don't see where to get it. lol.
#4113 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Under the video section
#4114 [20:03] <Blitz_9100> Its about 10-12 years old
#4115 [20:03] <IcyLiquid> Hi :) I have a question regarding the Multiplayer server. My friend and I both own the game, and I've set up a server and we can both connect and build. However, he would also like to allow his wife to play on his account, at the same time as him. He tells me that he asked about this last night and you confirmed it was possible, but required some serverside config changes. I'm here to ask about those changes.
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#4119 [20:03] <xales> IcyLiquid: online-mode=false in the config; keep in mind, that if this is a public server, it will allow hackers and bots and nasty things to join
#4120 [20:04] <IcyLiquid> Alright. What does online-mode=true do which prevents that?
#4121 [20:04] <dopeghoti> IcyLiquid: you're also basically stealing a copy of Minecraft. Be a champ and buy your wife a gift code.
#4122 [20:04] <IcyLiquid> Could I use my router to restrict access on the main port?
#4123 [20:04] <dopeghoti> It verifies the names of people who connect
#4124 [20:04] <IcyLiquid> Ah
#4125 [20:04] <xales> No, you couldn't
#4126 [20:04] <JACKS0NATOR> GreyVulpine - I'm doing that. But after that, there isn't much left to do, huh?
#4127 [20:04] <xales> Not with a normal, home/consumer router
#4128 [20:05] <xales> with an enterprise router (these cost several thousand dollars), you could. A software firewall would be easier
#4129 [20:05] <dopeghoti> Also, if she and you connect at the same time, and both clients are logged in, who ever logs in first will get booted, even _with_ online_mode=false
#4130 [20:05] <IcyLiquid> I have an OpenBSD box with ipfw as my router. :D
#4131 [20:05] <xales> and free
#4132 [20:05] <xales> ah, then yes, you could
#4133 [20:05] <dopeghoti> IcyLiquid: Just spring the $20 for another copy (:
#4134 [20:05] <JACKS0NATOR> Should I go download the rest of the Windows Updates, then restart too?
#4135 [20:05] <xales> JACKS0NATOR: yes
#4136 [20:05] <dopeghoti> JACKS0NATOR: yes. then check windowsupdate again
#4137 [20:05] <dopeghoti> repeat until it tells you there are no updates.
#4138 [20:05] <IcyLiquid> Dopeghoti: she wants to try it out with us first. If she likes, she'll have a copy. Don't worry.
#4139 [20:05] <dopeghoti> IcyLiquid: reasonable, if grey (:
#4140 [20:06] <JACKS0NATOR> It says it's going to take 35 minutes at my connection speed.
#4141 [20:06] <JACKS0NATOR> Whooa..
#4142 [20:06] <JACKS0NATOR> Alright, well. I'll see you guys in a bit.
#4143 [20:06] <IcyLiquid> Thanks for your help guys. I appreciate it.
#4144 [20:06] <dopeghoti> IcyLiquid: cheers
#4145 [20:06] <JACKS0NATOR> Yeah, thanks guys.
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#4147 [20:08] <zucchini> hey guys
#4148 [20:08] <xales> hi
#4149 [20:08] <zucchini> Where do I get a list of public servers?
#4150 [20:08] <dopeghoti> ?? smp/servers
#4151 [20:08] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#4152 [20:08] <zucchini> and where can I download the server
#4153 [20:08] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask in #SMP; there are often server admins there looking for new players.
#4154 [20:09] <zucchini> k
#4155 [20:09] <zucchini> With vista is it possible to run a server?
#4156 [20:10] <xales> Yes, but not ideal
#4157 [20:10] <dopeghoti> "possible" yes, advisable no
#4158 [20:10] <zucchini> Didnt think so lol
#4159 [20:10] <nevercast> Kealper, Managed to get in contact with my Ex-Gf.. She's not hurt but she's seen two dead people around her.. she's also stuck in town.. Earthquakes suck!
#4160 [20:10] <zucchini> Xp? Window Server package?
#4161 [20:10] <Kealper> nevercast: oh wow
#4162 [20:10] <Arkose> people died this time? :/
#4163 [20:10] <zucchini> I need a server thats up like 80% of the time..
#4164 [20:10] <zucchini> anyone know of a good one?
#4165 [20:11] <AG_Clinton> What?
#4166 [20:11] <AG_Clinton> Install a linux distro
#4167 [20:11] <xales> zucchini: If you want a server with good uptime, you should get one from a server provider
#4168 [20:11] <xales> if you want to run one yourself, use Linux
#4169 [20:11] <xales> Windows is horrific for hosting servers
#4170 [20:11] <nevercast> Arkose, Well yeah. It wasn't at 4am, It was at lunch time.. So the central of the biggest city on the entire south island was packed with people.
#4171 [20:12] <Arkose> :/
#4172 [20:12] <nevercast> Arkose, and that's where the earthquake hit. Center of Christchurch.
#4173 [20:12] <Arkose> well that sucks
#4174 [20:12] <nevercast> Yeah
#4175 [20:12] <Fear> I have a server running on my ubuntu laptop, but I've never put it under any kind of testing. Do they ever spike on resources?
#4176 [20:12] <zucchini> from a server provider
#4177 [20:12] <nevercast> Kealper, I just hope that she doesn't come into too much shock.
#4178 [20:12] <zucchini> Do you know of any?
#4179 [20:12] <xales> zucchini: Allgamer
#4180 [20:12] <xales> AG_Clinton here works for them :)
#4181 [20:12] <dopeghoti> Fear: short answer, yes: the server allocates 1GB of RAM, for starters
#4182 [20:12] <xales> you can ask them if you have any questions
#4183 [20:12] <Kealper> AG_Clinton: you just missed a good shameless plug moment
#4184 [20:13] <AG_Clinton> What?
#4185 [20:13] <AG_Scott> I"M HERE
#4186 [20:13] <AG_Scott> wat
#4187 [20:13] * GreyVulpine snrks
#4187 [20:13] <xales> lol
#4188 [20:13] <dopeghoti> time for the shameful plug.
#4189 [20:13] <xales> ^
#4190 [20:13] <xales> fish
#4191 [20:13] <xales> why the lowercase name
#4192 [20:13] <AG_Clinton> I recommend linode or rapidxen
#4193 [20:13] <zucchini> with this game
#4194 [20:13] <AG_Scott> or slicehost
#4195 [20:13] <dopeghoti> anywho, time for wimewardness
#4196 [20:13] <zucchini> Can people come to your home and burn it down
#4197 [20:13] <dopeghoti> erm. homewardness
#4198 [20:13] <Kealper> AG_Clinton: yer doin it wrong >.>
#4199 [20:13] <xales> AG_Clinton, AG_Scott: He wants a more managed think, not a VPS :P
#4200 [20:14] <AG_Scott> Well in that case, https://allgamer.net/virtualservers/
#4201 [20:14] <AG_Scott> errr
#4202 [20:14] <AG_Scott> crap
#4203 [20:14] <xales> zucchini: if you configure the server to not allow that
#4204 [20:14] <AG_Clinton> Failure
#4205 [20:14] <AG_Scott> Well in that case, https://allgamer.net/gameservers/
#4206 [20:14] <xales> ^
#4207 [20:14] <AG_Scott> fixed! :D
#4208 [20:14] <xales> zucchini: look here https://allgamer.net/gameservers/
#4209 [20:14] <AG_Scott> xales loves us.
#4210 [20:14] <AG_Scott> That should tell you it's awesome
#4211 [20:14] <Kealper> who doesn't love you o.o
#4212 [20:14] <xales> AuBot doesn't
#4213 [20:15] <AG_Clinton> Makes me sad.
#4214 [20:15] <AG_Scott> We're actually the only McMyAdmin Premium Provider at the moment I think lol.
#4215 [20:15] <Kealper> aubot just hates you because it needs windows to run, don't let it get to you :P
#4216 [20:15] <nevercast> LOL
#4217 [20:15] <AG_Scott> why does it need windows? :(
#4218 [20:15] <nevercast> AuBot is a windows executable that uses shitty winblows libraries so it doesn't work in Wine
#4219 [20:15] <xales> AG_Scott: Written in a bad language that only runs on Windows
#4220 [20:15] <Kealper> well, windows or a nix running wine and x server :/
#4221 [20:15] <xales> Doesn't even work in Wine
#4222 [20:16] <xales> Kealper: AutoIt works in Wine?
#4223 [20:16] <xales> news to me
#4224 [20:16] <AG_Clinton> That's very depressing.
#4225 [20:16] <zucchini> AG can I play on that server
#4226 [20:16] <zucchini> without paying?
#4227 [20:16] <AG_Scott> Can't you just rewrite it in something like python or ruby?
#4228 [20:16] <AG_Scott> or Go even.
#4229 [20:16] <xales> zucchini: you don't pay to join it, you pay to run your own
#4230 [20:16] <Kealper> xales: yeah, but most of the time you need x server installed/running for it to work properly
#4231 [20:16] <zucchini> ohhh
#4232 [20:16] <zucchini> how do I join
#4233 [20:16] <Kealper> only simple apps can run under wine without x
#4234 [20:16] <AG_Scott> You just order on the site
#4235 [20:16] <AG_Clinton> You're looking for a server to join?
#4236 [20:16] <AG_Clinton> There's thousands.
#4237 [20:16] <zucchini> yea
#4238 [20:16] <xales> zucchini: Do you want to run your own server
#4239 [20:16] <xales> or just play on one?
#4240 [20:17] <zucchini> Well I want to play on one
#4241 [20:17] <zucchini> Dont have the money or time to run one
#4242 [20:17] <zucchini> lol
#4243 [20:17] <AG_Scott> If you're looking for a server to join, check out crafthub.com, van-craft.com, and http://list.phonicuk.com/
#4244 [20:17] <zucchini> thing is I dont know which one ot pick lol
#4245 [20:17] <xales> join it, if you don't like it, find another
#4246 [20:17] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Do you just have all these links and quotes like stored on aliases or something?
#4247 [20:17] <AG_Scott> no
#4248 [20:17] <AG_Scott> I just know them XD
#4249 [20:17] <nevercast> Haha :D
#4250 [20:17] <zucchini> should I go for one with the most players on it?
#4251 [20:18] <AG_Scott> I have near photographic memory.
#4252 [20:18] <AG_Scott> I remember things like instantly :(
#4253 [20:18] <Arkose> it doesn't really matter, just jump around until you find a server you like
#4254 [20:18] <AG_Clinton> Like n00d shots?
#4255 [20:18] <nevercast> zucchini, How about you go join one with lots of players, if you don't like it.. join one with 0 players.. and then decided for yourself.
#4256 [20:18] <AG_Scott> I just can't use the things I remember...
#4257 [20:18] <Kealper> i only have that when it's not important that i remember it :P
#4258 [20:18] <zucchini> k
#4259 [20:18] <Kealper> if it's something important i'll forget about it in 5 min....something retarded like a link....it's with me forever -.-
#4260 [20:19] <nevercast> Ha
#4261 [20:19] <nevercast> Kealper, I have a mate like that
#4262 [20:19] <AG_Clinton> I have no short term memory.
#4263 [20:19] <zucchini> haha
#4264 [20:19] <nevercast> Kealper, He'll never remember anything of value
#4265 [20:19] <zucchini> its makin me apply online
#4266 [20:19] <nevercast> Kealper, But he can tell you how long a penguin can hold it's breath under water for :P
#4267 [20:19] <Kealper> nevercast: sounds exactly like my problem XD
#4268 [20:19] <nevercast> Hahaha.
#4269 [20:20] <AG_Clinton> Ask an admiral how far his submarine can go without imploding.
#4270 [20:20] <nevercast> Have you ever been in a situation where you just wanna scream at someone, " What's it like to be a complete and utter idiot? "
#4271 [20:20] <AG_Clinton> Nope.
#4272 [20:20] <Kealper> AG_Clinton: do i want to know the answer to that? lol
#4273 [20:21] <zucchini> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 2/21/11
#4274 [20:21] <AG_Clinton> Kealper: The joke is, he doesn't know becuase you don't live.
#4275 [20:21] <zucchini> I got this error- -
#4276 [20:21] <Kealper> zucchini: http://pastebin.com
#4277 [20:21] <nevercast> derp
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#4279 [20:22] <nevercast> Kealper, How's your server at the moment? Not lagging I hope.
#4280 [20:22] <nevercast> I'm considering logging into it.
#4281 [20:23] <Kealper> nevercast: not that i know of...no one is complaining and i'm not running anything on it to compute the meaning of life or anything
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#4283 [20:23] <nevercast> Well I can save you some effort with that one.
#4284 [20:23] <nevercast> 42
#4285 [20:23] <Kealper> finnally working on that item blacklist stuff though...got the code in place, just populating the blacklist atm
#4286 [20:24] <nevercast> What items you blacklisting?
#4287 [20:24] <Kealper> the ones that make me nerdrage when i find them lying around in chests
#4288 [20:24] <zucchini> None of these servers work
#4289 [20:24] <zucchini> http://list.phonicuk.com/#
#4290 [20:24] <xales> !cals 2+2
#4291 [20:24] <xales> !calc 2+2
#4292 [20:24] <GreyBot> Answer: 4
#4293 [20:24] <xales> !calc the meaning of life
#4294 [20:24] <GreyBot> Answer: 0
#4295 [20:24] <xales> what
#4296 [20:24] <Dahjin> lol
#4297 [20:25] <Kealper> !calc the answer to life, the universe, and everything
#4298 [20:25] <GreyBot> Answer: 0
#4299 [20:25] <Kealper> i take it that does not use google?
#4300 [20:25] <nevercast> zucchini, If you were smart, You would have used google. Try googling " Minecraft Server List "
#4301 [20:25] <xales> !calc meaning of life
#4302 [20:25] <GreyBot> Answer: 42
#4303 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> No, it doesn't use google
#4304 [20:25] <Kealper> zucchini: http://mcserverlist.net
#4305 [20:25] <zucchini> Can I get a server list plz
#4306 [20:25] <Kealper> :<
#4307 [20:25] <Dahjin> can anyone help me with some graphics problems?
#4308 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Just a simple... very simple calc script in mIRC
#4309 [20:26] <nevercast> zucchini, Google "Minecraft Server List" and click the first result!
#4310 [20:26] <xales> ??> Dahjin ask
#4311 [20:26] <VoxelHead> Dahjin: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4312 [20:26] <VoxelHead> Dahjin: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4313 [20:26] <Dahjin> kk well anyone know how to fix this http://i51.tinypic.com/s5ieye.jpg
#4314 [20:26] <xales> what graphics card do you have?
#4315 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> whoa.
#4316 [20:27] <Dahjin> hd 3200
#4317 [20:27] <xales> have you tried updating the drivers?
#4318 [20:27] <Dahjin> onboard </3
#4319 [20:27] <Dahjin> and i just updated them
#4320 [20:27] <Kealper> oooooo! oooooo!!!
#4321 [20:27] * Kealper knows what is happening
#4321 [20:27] <nevercast> O.lo
#4322 [20:28] <nevercast> Tell us, Kealper
#4323 [20:28] <Dahjin> yes tell us
#4324 [20:28] <Kealper> !reinstall
#4325 [20:28] <Dahjin> i reinstall'd too
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#4327 [20:28] <Dahjin> comepletely
#4328 [20:28] <xales> Kealper, owned.
#4329 [20:28] <Kealper> default texture pack?
#4330 [20:28] <Dahjin> yep
#4331 [20:28] <Dahjin> just got the game no mods etc
#4332 [20:28] <Kealper> xales: i never said i knew the answer, i just know what is happening
#4333 [20:28] <xales> orly
#4334 [20:28] <xales> what is happening
#4335 [20:28] <nevercast> What is happening?
#4336 [20:29] <Kealper> Dahjin: http://java.com reinstall java?
#4337 [20:29] <Dahjin> done ><
#4338 [20:29] <xales> Kealper
#4339 [20:29] <xales> what
#4340 [20:29] <xales> is
#4341 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> It looks like some of the textures are cut off, or are overlapping over other parts
#4342 [20:29] <xales> happening
#4343 [20:29] <nevercast> ?
#4344 [20:29] <Kealper> all: the game is parsing the textures incorrectly
#4345 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Check the image for hearts
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#4347 [20:29] <Kealper> everything has a 2px offset
#4348 [20:29] <xales> I have an idea
#4349 [20:29] <Kealper> so some math is wrong somehwere
#4350 [20:29] <Dahjin> also if im in the game longer
#4351 [20:29] <xales> overheat.
#4352 [20:30] <Dahjin> the letters start to turn into charactor's
#4353 [20:30] <Dahjin> :|
#4354 [20:30] <xales> yes
#4355 [20:30] <xales> overheat sounds possible
#4356 [20:30] <xales> something is very, very wrong if it does that though
#4357 [20:30] <Kealper> definately sounds like something is causing minecraft's parsing math to fail
#4358 [20:30] <xales> Kealper, that stuff is CPU level
#4359 [20:30] <xales> the ALU is having pppprrrooobbllleeeemmmsss
#4360 [20:30] <xales> which is bad.
#4361 [20:30] <xales> Bad (tm)
#4362 [20:30] <nevercast> lol.
#4363 [20:31] <Kealper> Dahjin: give the java reinstall a try....if that doesn't fix it...you've got some really bad issues
#4364 [20:31] <Dahjin> i did reinstall java :(
#4365 [20:31] <Kealper> o.o
#4366 [20:31] <xales> hrm
#4367 [20:31] <xales> ?? dxdiag
#4368 [20:31] <Dahjin> all my other games are fine its just minecraft Q_Q
#4369 [20:31] <xales> ?? win/dxdiag
#4370 [20:31] <xales> blah
#4371 [20:31] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4372 [20:31] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4373 [20:32] <Dahjin> what should i be looking for in the dxdiag
#4374 [20:32] <xales> just pastebin the whole thing
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#4377 [20:34] <Dahjin> http://pastebin.com/sBTtzYa3
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#4381 [20:35] <nevercast> Tripple Core Processor?
#4382 [20:35] <nevercast> Lolwat
#4383 [20:35] <xales> are you running an antivirus or firewall?
#4384 [20:35] <Dahjin> yea tripple its a hand me down
#4385 [20:35] <xales> hey, now
#4386 [20:35] <xales> I have a dual core
#4387 [20:35] <xales> triple is better :P
#4388 [20:35] <Dahjin> and i dont have any firewalls on atm
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#4391 [20:36] <xales> antivirus?
#4392 [20:36] <Vampiro> ok Why wont this stuff work? lol
#4393 [20:36] <xales> Vampiro: ?
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#4395 [20:36] <Dahjin> avg is on it looks like
#4396 [20:37] <xales> is it the free version, or the full suite?
#4397 [20:37] <Dahjin> free
#4398 [20:37] <Dahjin> :3
#4399 [20:37] <xales> ok
#4400 [20:37] <xales> that's good :P
#4401 [20:37] <Vampiro> I want to try the free classic version of this game before I decide to buy it or not
#4402 [20:37] <xales> have you tried
#4403 [20:37] <xales> ??> Dahjin win/profile
#4404 [20:37] <VoxelHead> Dahjin: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4405 [20:37] <VoxelHead> Dahjin: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4406 [20:37] <Vampiro> but every time I try it give me the following - .org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format nont accelerated
#4407 [20:37] <xales> Vampiro: You need to update your graphics card drivers
#4408 [20:37] <nevercast> Dahjin, Just disable AVG for the moment
#4409 [20:38] <Dahjin> mk 1 sec
#4410 [20:38] <Vampiro> Yeah and how do i update my graphics card driver? XD
#4411 [20:38] <xales> ??> Vampiro win/dxdiag
#4412 [20:38] <VoxelHead> Vampiro: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4413 [20:38] <VoxelHead> Vampiro: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4414 [20:40] <Vampiro> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 2/21/2011, 20:38:13 Machine name: DIVENDRAGOON Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_qfe.100216-2016) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: MP061
#4415 [20:40] <Vampiro> oops....
#4416 [20:40] <Vampiro> hold on
#4417 [20:40] <Vampiro> http://pastebin.com/c
#4418 [20:40] <Dahjin> lol
#4419 [20:40] <Vampiro> grrrrrrrrrr
#4420 [20:40] <Vampiro> God hates me -.-"
#4421 [20:40] <Vampiro> http://pastebin.com/T5kXms7F
#4422 [20:40] <Vampiro> there is that what you need?
#4423 [20:41] <xales> uh
#4424 [20:41] <xales> that's....really, really weird
#4425 [20:41] <Dahjin> here i just got this
#4426 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Wow, what in the
#4427 [20:41] <Vampiro> ?
#4428 [20:41] <xales> The system is using the generic video driver. Please install video driver provided by the hardware manufacturer. Direct3D functionality not available. You should verify that the driver is a final version from the hardware manufacturer.
#4429 [20:41] <Vampiro> ok and that means? >.>
#4430 [20:41] <Vampiro> -is puter tarded-
#4431 [20:41] <xales> you should probably start with Windows Update
#4432 [20:41] <Dahjin> http://pastebin.com/vYCijfib
#4433 [20:41] <Vampiro> uhhhhhhhhh
#4434 [20:41] <xales> you are quite a bit behind on updates
#4435 [20:42] <nevercast> Means you're using the microsoft default drivers, Vampiro
#4436 [20:42] <Vampiro> *cough*
#4437 [20:42] <xales> Dahjin: you get this when you close it?
#4438 [20:42] <Dahjin> yerp
#4439 [20:42] <xales> that's normal
#4440 [20:42] <xales> it's fixable...but it's a bit of effort
#4441 [20:42] <Vampiro> can someone direct me on how to do the windows update? >.>
#4442 [20:42] <xales> it's probably easier to just delete those as they appear
#4443 [20:42] <xales> Vampiro: Start->All programs->windows update
#4444 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Vampiro - One moment
#4445 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to get the drivers from dell's site
#4446 [20:43] <Vampiro> sweetness
#4447 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> I just need to find it
#4448 [20:43] <Vampiro> 0-o
#4449 [20:43] <Dahjin> its still the same with the lines
#4450 [20:43] <Dahjin> is what i mean
#4451 [20:43] <zucchini> whats meta and power gaming?
#4452 [20:43] <Dahjin> like it pops up on the main menu aswell
#4453 [20:44] <zucchini> imn filling out an application and its asking me what those two things mea n
#4454 [20:44] <Vampiro> would it help if I told you guys I have had this laptop for like 6+ years and It just connected to the internet like a week ago >.>
#4455 [20:45] <nevercast> zucchini, Seriously.. Use Google!
#4456 [20:45] <Vampiro> lol
#4457 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> vampiro - Could you tel me the exact model of the laptop?
#4458 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Is it an inspirion 9400?
#4459 [20:46] <Vampiro> Inspiron E1705
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#4461 [20:46] <Chaze007> YOUUU
#4462 [20:46] <Vampiro> MEEE?
#4463 [20:46] <Chaze007> I has question
#4464 [20:46] <Chaze007> about hosting.
#4465 [20:47] <Vampiro> im not the person to ask XD
#4466 [20:47] <Kealper> ?? ask
#4467 [20:47] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4468 [20:47] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4469 [20:47] <Chaze007> sec sec sec, I'm in 4 chats at once
#4470 [20:47] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, They are the same thing lol.
#4471 [20:47] <Dahjin> !calc z4 - 2z3 + 7z2 - 4z + 10
#4472 [20:47] <GreyBot> Answer: 0
#4473 [20:47] <Chaze007> anyway, I have just hosted a server for MC on Xenonservers, 20 slots
#4474 [20:47] <Chaze007> and it says I am not on the whitelist
#4475 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#4476 [20:47] <Chaze007> never done this before, literally made the server 10 minutes ago
#4477 [20:47] <Chaze007> what do?
#4478 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Vampiro - Do you have a service tag for that laptop from Dell, on the bottom?
#4479 [20:48] <xales> Chaze007: There should be options or something in the control panel
#4480 [20:48] * Vampiro pokes greyvulpine
#4480 [20:48] <xales> for the server
#4481 [20:48] <Chaze007> Uhh
#4482 [20:48] <Chaze007> it lets me edit teh filez
#4483 [20:48] <Vampiro> yeses
#4484 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs&os=WW1&osl=en&SystemID=INS_PNT_P4_9400&catid=-1&impid=-1
#4485 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Go there, enter the service tag for it where it asks you
#4486 [20:48] <Chaze007> where would i generally find the whitelist crap?
#4487 [20:48] <xales> Chaze007: Did you install any mods or anything like that?
#4488 [20:49] <Chaze007> server.properties?
#4489 [20:49] <Chaze007> none.
#4490 [20:49] <Vampiro> ooook
#4491 [20:49] <Chaze007> except textures
#4492 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Then, you'll want to look for updated video drivers from there
#4493 [20:49] <xales> I mean, on the server
#4494 [20:49] <Chaze007> and betterlight, and hd, and bettergrass
#4495 [20:49] <Chaze007> so yes
#4496 [20:49] <Chaze007> xD
#4497 [20:49] <xales> ._.
#4498 [20:49] <xales> don't use enter as comma please
#4499 [20:49] <xales> anyway
#4500 [20:49] <xales> you should file a support ticket
#4501 [20:49] <Chaze007> xD, sorry It's a bad habit, anyway, where would I generally do the whitelist crap?
#4502 [20:49] <xales> I have no idea
#4503 [20:50] <Chaze007> and no, no mods have been installed.
#4504 [20:50] <xales> it depends on what is on the server by default, which your host would know
#4505 [20:50] <xales> so yeah, file a support ticket with them
#4506 [20:50] <Vampiro> umm where do I put in the tag thingy?
#4507 [20:50] <Kealper> the server probably has McMyAdmin on
#4508 [20:50] <Chaze007> D: those tickets take forever and stuff don't they.
#4509 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Vampiro - "To see only the latest updates for your system, click Enter a Service Tag."
#4510 [20:50] <Vampiro> ty grey ^_^
#4511 [20:51] <Chaze007> No, it uses some TCadmin crap.
#4512 [20:51] <Kealper> MCAdmin?
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#4514 [20:51] <xales> That would just be for billing, Chaze007
#4515 [20:51] <xales> Is there any other control panel? =/
#4516 [20:52] <Chaze007> Powered by TCAdmin Version 1.0.3810.30070
#4517 [20:52] <Chaze007> sec
#4518 [20:52] <Chaze007> nope. don't think so. D:
#4519 [20:52] <Vampiro> umm ok now I don't understand a single thing here -.-" which one do I need?
#4520 [20:52] <gretc> anyone else getting black screen after log in?
#4521 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Vampiro - Video drivers
#4522 [20:53] <xales> ??> gretc win/reinst
#4523 [20:53] <VoxelHead> gretc: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4524 [20:53] <VoxelHead> gretc: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4525 [20:53] <gretc> thanks
#4526 [20:53] <Chaze007> So nobody ever had this problemo?
#4527 [20:53] <Vampiro> it doesn't have any... do I use the "category" drop down?
#4528 [20:54] <xales> Chaze007: it's specific to the setup of your server provider
#4529 [20:54] <xales> once again, file a support ticket
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#4531 [20:54] <xales> they will be able to tell you how to disable whitelisting or add yourself
#4532 [20:55] <gretc> deleted bin, ran minecraft, still black screen after reinstall
#4533 [20:55] <Chaze007> I just have.
#4534 [20:55] <xales> gretc: has it ever worked?
#4535 [20:55] <gretc> yes
#4536 [20:55] <xales> ??> gretc win/profile
#4537 [20:55] <VoxelHead> gretc: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4538 [20:55] <VoxelHead> gretc: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4539 [20:55] <gretc> yesterday it was fine, following the devs on twitter, they have been messing with shit all day, and now it dont work for me
#4540 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> gretc - Are you running avg, by chance?
#4541 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> or any other antivirus that might have picked up a false positive on lwjgl.dll
#4542 [20:56] <nevercast> no xales
#4543 [20:56] <gretc> yes, says a dll is "threat", i ignored, should i try to just shut it down?
#4544 [20:56] <nevercast> xales, black screen = avg confliect
#4545 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#4546 [20:56] <xales> ahk
#4547 [20:56] <nevercast> *confliect
#4548 [20:56] <Chaze007> <3 Live chat support.
#4549 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? virus
#4550 [20:56] <VoxelHead> virus: There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#4551 [20:56] <VoxelHead> virus: For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#4552 [20:56] <Vampiro> grey.... It keeps saying: Can not download the application. the application is missing required files. Contact applicant vendor for assistance.
#4553 [20:57] * Con wants a list of VoxelHead commands
#4553 [20:57] <xales> ?? index
#4554 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Vampiro - Can't.. download the application?
#4555 [20:57] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex for a list of FAQ entries
#4556 [20:57] <nevercast> gretc, Your options are, replace AVG with another Anti Virus.. or not use an Anti Virus lol.
#4557 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> That's strange
#4558 [20:57] <Vampiro> It dwnloads, I run it, and I get that message
#4559 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Or add minecraft's lwjgl file to AVG's exceptions list
#4560 [20:57] <xales> GreyVulpine: he used the "dell download manager"
#4561 [20:57] <nevercast> gretc, Although some have said updating the avg to the latest works too.
#4562 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#4563 [20:57] <xales> GreyVulpine: and is probably so out of date, he can't use that
#4564 [20:57] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, We must treat everyone like noobs :D
#4565 [20:57] <Vampiro> -admits she is a noob- >.>
#4566 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> nevercast - We be kind to noobs here
#4567 [20:58] <SkiingPenguins> cause they usually are, nevercast :)
#4568 [20:58] * Vampiro nods
#4568 [20:58] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, ;)
#4569 [20:58] <Vampiro> be kind to this noob plox? XD
#4570 [20:58] <gretc> i shut down AVG and still black screen
#4571 [20:58] <xales> Vampiro: What's the service tag?
#4572 [20:58] <Vampiro> F3Z04C1
#4573 [20:58] <xales> gretc: how did you shut it down?
#4574 [20:58] <xales> did you right click the icon and click "exit"?
#4575 [20:58] <gretc> only other thing i can say about mine is i installed a mod yesterday, and it worked fine, havent touched anything, and now its a black screen today
#4576 [20:58] <gretc> task manager
#4577 [20:58] <xales> that won't work
#4578 [20:58] <nevercast> You can't kill it via task manager
#4579 [20:58] <nevercast> it starts itself back up
#4580 [20:58] <xales> honestly, you should just uninstall it and get a better antivirus...
#4581 [20:58] <xales> anyway
#4582 [20:58] <Vampiro> >.>
#4583 [20:58] <nevercast> It's a protection against viruses
#4584 [20:59] <gretc> interesting
#4585 [20:59] <xales> open AVG from the start menu
#4586 [20:59] <xales> open the control panel
#4587 [20:59] <xales> select guardian shield
#4588 [20:59] <xales> disable it
#4589 [20:59] <SkiingPenguins> nevercast MSE can be killed by task manager :) it only takes 3 tries
#4590 [20:59] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, Haha yeah.. I've found the same with Nortan.. But that has 3 processes you have to kill all at once :D
#4591 [20:59] * Vampiro is broken
#4591 [21:00] <xales> uh
#4592 [21:00] <xales> I don't see a video driver
#4593 [21:00] <xales> GreyVulpine: what's up with that? :o
#4594 [21:00] <xales> Vampiro: one sec
#4595 [21:00] <Vampiro> me nither.... so I went to "category" -> "video"
#4596 [21:00] <xales> ah, that's why
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#4598 [21:00] <nevercast> xales, Maybe it's too old to support hardware acceleration? and hence it uses default software microsoft driver? vga.sys
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#4600 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. I'm not seeing one either
#4601 [21:01] <Vampiro> T-T
#4602 [21:01] * Vampiro brokeded it
#4602 [21:01] <xales> I have to agree with nevercast there
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#4604 [21:01] <xales> given how much RAM it has, and it's age
#4605 [21:01] <gretc> works, thanks for the help guys, you are all amazing
#4606 [21:01] <xales> you are probably better off looking to replace it =\
#4607 [21:01] <xales> anyway
#4608 [21:01] * B-Fir3 [B-Fir3@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4609 [21:01] <xales> hm
#4610 [21:02] <Vampiro> I don't have the money to buy a new laptop....
#4611 [21:02] <nevercast> We forgot to enforce gretc to get a better AV
#4612 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> xales - hold on
#4613 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> The parts list for that service code include:
#4614 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> "Card, Graphics, 256MB, M54, 9400 IMGA3"
#4615 [21:03] <Dahjin> new plan
#4616 [21:03] <Dahjin> put tnt in computer and blow it up
#4617 [21:03] * XPliZiT [XPliZiT@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4618 [21:03] <XPliZiT> Hello
#4619 [21:03] <xales> ho
#4620 [21:03] <Vampiro> grey uses a foreign tongue.....
#4621 [21:03] <Vampiro> I like dahjin's plan >.>
#4622 [21:03] <XPliZiT> Could anyone help me my minecraft won't load
#4623 [21:03] <Dahjin> rofl
#4624 [21:03] * Vampiro agree with Dahjin
#4624 [21:03] <XPliZiT> Been searching forums and can't find anything
#4625 [21:04] * Vampiro goes and gets military grade C-4 off her uncle
#4625 [21:04] <nevercast> XPliZiT, What do you mean wont load?
#4626 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> Is it just me, or does dell not give that driver for that card
#4627 [21:04] <aeth|headache> hey guys
#4628 [21:04] <Vampiro> Does dell hate me that much? =(
#4629 [21:04] <XPliZiT> I click run, run as admin and it just won't open
#4630 [21:04] <nevercast> XPliZiT, Nothing shows up at all?
#4631 [21:04] <xales> XPliZiT: "click run"?
#4632 [21:05] <xales> are you double-clicking the icon...or what?
#4633 [21:05] <xales> Vampiro: try this... ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R153830.EXE
#4634 [21:05] <XPliZiT> Both, double clicked, right clicked, single clicked
#4635 [21:05] <Vampiro> oook
#4636 [21:05] <xales> XPliZiT: www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#4637 [21:05] <XPliZiT> I have java and its updated
#4638 [21:05] <Vampiro> is there a place where I can submit a forum about how awesome you guys are? XD
#4639 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately no.
#4640 [21:06] <Vampiro> even if you don't fix this, dealing with my stupid ass is worth a million and a half brownie points >.>
#4641 [21:06] <dopeghoti> Vampiro: "paypal.com"? (:
#4642 [21:06] * GreyVulpine snerks
#4642 [21:06] <xales> XPliZiT: What version of Windows?
#4643 [21:06] <Vampiro> lolol no paypal sorry XD
#4644 [21:06] <XPliZiT> vista 64 bit
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#4646 [21:06] <xales> ??> XPliZiT win/dxdiag
#4647 [21:06] <VoxelHead> XPliZiT: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4648 [21:06] <VoxelHead> XPliZiT: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4649 [21:07] * Con stares at "dontclick"
#4649 [21:07] <Vampiro> Xales - "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software."
#4650 [21:07] <dopeghoti> Con: it's good advice
#4651 [21:08] <xales> Vampiro: try this one ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R114697.EXE
#4652 [21:08] <xales> Con: if you want to test them
#4653 [21:08] <xales> do it in ##voxelhead
#4654 [21:08] <Chaze007> LOL
#4655 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> Todo: add ??< (/query to asker) and ??>> (/query to target)
#4656 [21:08] <Vampiro> 0-o
#4657 [21:08] <Chaze007> CUSTOMER SUPPORT SAYS MY IP WAS JACKED xD
#4658 [21:08] <Chaze007> already
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#4660 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> Chaze007: no need to yell
#4661 [21:09] <xales> Chaze007: what
#4662 [21:09] <Chaze007> within an hour of me buying the server.
#4663 [21:09] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#4664 [21:09] <xales> "jacked"
#4665 [21:09] <xales> what
#4666 [21:09] <XPliZiT> Was not prompted to update anything
#4667 [21:09] * Vampiro whistles while she works - whoo hoo hoo hoo hooo hoo hoo
#4667 [21:09] * mib_vgmnd2 [mib_vgmnd2@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4668 [21:09] <xales> XPliZiT: Did you follow the instructions? >.>
#4669 [21:09] <mib_vgmnd2> When is the next update happening?
#4670 [21:09] <xales> mib_vgmnd2: Possibly tomorrow
#4671 [21:10] <XPliZiT> Yea I clicked yes and then this program came up and i went through it but no logs or anything
#4672 [21:10] <mib_vgmnd2> My game hasn't worked since the last one :( I hope this update fixes taht
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#4674 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> xales / Vampiro - Looks like this person has the same config
#4675 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3519/p/19274562/19485420.aspx
#4676 [21:10] <XPliZiT> Oh i got it
#4677 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Steps are provided there on how to install video drivers
#4678 [21:10] <xales> mib_vgmnd2: how does it not work?
#4679 [21:10] <XPliZiT> Hold on i'll post on pastbin
#4680 [21:10] <wippler> After I login, Minecraft turns into a black screen.Help please.
#4681 [21:10] <Chaze007> xales: server ip was stolen basically
#4682 [21:11] <Chaze007> some how.
#4683 [21:11] <xales> wippler: turn off AVG
#4684 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Did you happen to get any virus/trojan messages?
#4685 [21:11] <xales> Chaze007: uhh...that makes no sense....at all
#4686 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? virus
#4687 [21:11] <VoxelHead> virus: There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#4688 [21:11] <VoxelHead> virus: For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#4689 [21:11] <nevercast> mib_vgmnd2, What do you mean doesn't work?
#4690 [21:11] <wippler> no, but ill try
#4691 [21:11] <mib_vgmnd2> In browser: the screen freezes at about 90% of "Updating Minecraft"
#4692 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> Chaze007: an IP can't be stolen; they're assigned by the provider
#4693 [21:11] <xales> ??> mib_vgmnd2 win/reinst
#4694 [21:11] <VoxelHead> mib_vgmnd2: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4695 [21:11] <nevercast> mib_vgmnd2, Try downloading it
#4696 [21:11] <VoxelHead> mib_vgmnd2: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4697 [21:11] <Chaze007> sec.
#4698 [21:11] <Vampiro> xales - The NVIDIA setup program could not locate any drivers that are compatible with your current hardware.
#4699 [21:11] <mib_vgmnd2> And in the .exe file after logging in the screen stays black
#4700 [21:12] <xales> Vampiro: try the link Grey posted
#4701 [21:12] <XPliZiT> http://pastebin.com/p8Jqz827
#4702 [21:12] <xales> mib_vgmnd2: turn off AVG
#4703 [21:12] <Vampiro> where did he post it?
#4704 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> There should be three steps you need to do Vampiro
#4705 [21:12] <xales> Vampiro: here
#4706 [21:12] <Chaze007> http://pastebin.com/Wss4wRK3
#4707 [21:12] <XPliZiT> http://pastebin.com/p8Jqz827
#4708 [21:12] <xales> Vampiro: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3519/p/19274562/19485420.aspx
#4709 [21:12] <xales> XPliZiT: one sec
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#4711 [21:12] <xales> holy shit that graphics card
#4712 [21:12] <nevercast> Kealper, Is it possible to get AuBot to Notice new comers that if they have a black screen issue, they should remove avg.
#4713 [21:12] <xales> what was the issue again? =/
#4714 [21:12] * xales forgot >.>
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#4715 [21:13] <XPliZiT> Wut you mean at my graphic card :(
#4716 [21:13] <XPliZiT> oh but the .exe won't run
#4717 [21:13] * Ronjoe [Ronjoe@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#4718 [21:13] <nevercast> XPliZiT, Right click on it, go to properties.
#4719 [21:13] <Vampiro> can someone translate that link into stupid people language for me? XD
#4720 [21:13] <nevercast> XPliZiT, Make sure it's not blocked or anything
#4721 [21:13] <XPliZiT> ok done
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#4723 [21:13] <xales> XPliZiT: oh, right
#4724 [21:13] <xales> hrm
#4725 [21:13] <XPliZiT> I made it open on my firewall
#4726 [21:14] <xales> oh dear
#4727 [21:14] <mib_vgmnd2> Works! thanks for the help guys
#4728 [21:14] <xales> The 3D core is very similar to the older GMA 3000, including the lack of hardware accelerated vertex shaders
#4729 [21:14] <xales> that graphics card
#4730 [21:14] * wipper [wipper@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4731 [21:14] <xales> to put it nicely
#4732 [21:14] <xales> is a horrific piece of shit
#4733 [21:14] <XPliZiT> Enlish?
#4734 [21:14] <xales> that's very, very old
#4735 [21:15] <XPliZiT> Yea i've heard its a music computer more or less
#4736 [21:15] <nevercast> Basically, Vampiro... Not going to happen =/
#4737 [21:15] <wipper> alright i turned off the AVI and it did the same thing.
#4738 [21:15] <xales> I really, really doubt that you will be able to get Minecraft to come anywhere near running on that
#4739 [21:15] <XPliZiT> Yea i've head = heard its shit
#4740 [21:15] <xales> wippler: How did you turn it off
#4741 [21:15] <XPliZiT> I play wow and rs and they work fine
#4742 [21:15] <wipper> I just clicked disable
#4743 [21:15] <nevercast> xales, were you talking to XPliZiT or Vampiro?
#4744 [21:15] <Vampiro> ......
#4745 [21:16] <XPliZiT> Idk but i know my comp is old so idk if he was talking to me
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#4747 [21:16] <xales> wippler: where did you click disable?
#4748 [21:16] <xales> nevercast: about what specifically
#4749 [21:16] <xales> gah
#4750 [21:16] <nevercast> xales, the old graphics card
#4751 [21:16] <xales> ok
#4752 [21:16] <xales> nevercast: XPliZiT
#4753 [21:16] <xales> Vampiro: that link just lists stuff to install
#4754 [21:16] * FlyingWhales13 [FlyingWhales13@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4755 [21:16] <Vampiro> yeah I saw....
#4756 [21:17] <XPliZiT> But i can play wow and rs?
#4757 [21:17] <Vampiro> I am repairing my .NAT thingy
#4758 [21:17] <FlyingWhales13> When I log into Minecraft, it goes black
#4759 [21:17] <Vampiro> yeah wait a second!
#4760 [21:17] <wipper> I right clicked on avasts icon, and then i clicked disable until i restart the computer
#4761 [21:17] <nevercast> FlyingWhales13, It's AVG
#4762 [21:17] <Vampiro> I play runescape on this comp EVERYDAY
#4763 [21:17] <Chaze007> there's your problem.
#4764 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> Good for you; what's that to do with Minecraft?
#4765 [21:17] <Chaze007> xD!
#4766 [21:17] <FlyingWhales13> nevercast, I update it or what?
#4767 [21:17] <XPliZiT> I mean why is it not compatible?
#4768 [21:17] <xales> wipper: oh...avast
#4769 [21:17] <Vampiro> how can this comp support RS a much more demanding game?
#4770 [21:17] <nevercast> FlyingWhales13, Try Update it
#4771 [21:18] <xales> that's not AVG
#4772 [21:18] <xales> ??> wipper win/reinst
#4773 [21:18] <VoxelHead> wipper: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4774 [21:18] <nevercast> FlyingWhales13, If that doesn't work.. Delete it and replace with another AV
#4775 [21:18] <VoxelHead> wipper: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4776 [21:18] <FlyingWhales13> nervacast alright thanks
#4777 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> "More demanding"?!
#4778 [21:18] <FlyingWhales13> nevercast*
#4779 [21:18] <SkiingPenguins> Vampiro: believe it or not, minecraft is pretty demanding.
#4780 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> ??> Vampiro retro
#4781 [21:18] <VoxelHead> Vampiro: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#4782 [21:18] <VoxelHead> Vampiro: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#4783 [21:18] <Vampiro> Runescape is still more demanding lmao
#4784 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> I doubt it.
#4785 [21:18] <nevercast> very doubt it
#4786 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Hah, no it isn't
#4787 [21:18] <xales> Vampiro: It's not
#4788 [21:18] <wipper> i already tried deleting the bin folder
#4789 [21:18] <Vampiro> I play on HD for RS....
#4790 [21:18] <XPliZiT> So can i get a refund lol?
#4791 [21:18] <SkiingPenguins> Minecraft is more demanding than some of the first person shooters i play >.<
#4792 [21:19] <xales> XPliZiT: if you want, email daniel@mojang.com
#4793 [21:19] <nevercast> It's more demanding than Crysis
#4794 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> ??> wipper win/profile
#4795 [21:19] <VoxelHead> wipper: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4796 [21:19] <Vampiro> THen they should make it look like it lol
#4797 [21:19] <VoxelHead> wipper: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4798 [21:19] <xales> though I suggest keeping it until you get a newer computer
#4799 [21:19] * DopeGhoti installs TV.
#4799 [21:19] <Chaze007> Lol, this customer service guy plays xD
#4800 [21:19] <Chaze007> I gave him my user ID.
#4801 [21:19] <Chaze007> :P
#4802 [21:19] <XPliZiT> daniel@mojang.com email him and say waht
#4803 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Yay!
#4804 [21:19] <XPliZiT> Say i want a refund?
#4805 [21:19] <xales> XPliZiT: that you want a refund
#4806 [21:19] <xales> yes
#4807 [21:19] * GreyVulpine stabs DopeGhoti through TeamViewer
#4807 [21:20] <XPliZiT> :( ok thanks for help
#4808 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: connection refused
#4809 [21:20] * SkiingPenguins uses VNC.. you got owned
#4809 [21:20] <nevercast> RDP :D
#4810 [21:20] <wipper> yea i tried that too. it wouldn't work on either
#4811 [21:20] <Chaze007> http://pastebin.com/Wss4wRK3 wrong chat xD
#4812 [21:20] <xales> ??> wipper win/dxdiag
#4813 [21:20] <VoxelHead> wipper: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4814 [21:21] <VoxelHead> wipper: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#4816 [21:21] * xales will be back in just a se
#4816 [21:21] <xales> c
#4817 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I probably ought to add you as a 'partner' though?
#4818 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Only if you want...
#4819 [21:22] * DopeGhoti is indifferent
#4819 [21:23] * SkiingPenguins is lonely
#4819 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> It's only if you wanted to add a group of computers into an account, which is easily accessible anywhere you can get teamviewer
#4820 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> just log into your account, pulls up your 'partners' who you can TV into, having already set up accounts
#4821 [21:23] * nevercast hugs SkiingPenguins
#4821 [21:23] <wipper> here you go: http://pastebin.com/h1170LHq
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#4823 [21:24] <Chaze0071> bleh.
#4824 [21:24] <Chaze0071> ..
#4825 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> ah, I see.
#4826 [21:24] <nevercast> Lol
#4827 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Wow, SiS still makes video chipsets?
#4828 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> Sort of.
#4829 [21:24] <wipper> yea
#4830 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> In the same manner that, say, S3 makes video chipsets.
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#4834 [21:28] <xales> wipper: you can try updating drivers but...beyond that
#4835 [21:28] <xales> It's unlikely it will run
#4836 [21:29] <wipper> xales: Is there any reason why it won't run?
#4837 [21:29] <xales> wipper: that video card...is pretty horrible
#4838 [21:29] <wipper> oh ok
#4839 [21:30] <wipper> thanks for the help
#4840 [21:30] <xales> mhmm
#4841 [21:30] <xales> sorry to be giving bad news
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#4844 [21:34] <FlyingWhales13> nevercast, sorry, updating AVG did not fix it.
#4845 [21:34] <xales> FlyingWhales13: turn off AVG then
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#4848 [21:36] <FlyingWhales13> how do I turn it off?
#4849 [21:36] <xales> double click the icon
#4850 [21:36] <xales> click Guardian Shield
#4851 [21:36] <xales> and do whatever it says to disable it
#4852 [21:36] <xales> i think you uncheck something
#4853 [21:37] <FlyingWhales13> Guardian Shield?
#4854 [21:38] <xales> yeah, in the AVG control panel
#4855 [21:38] <xales> thingy
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#4857 [21:38] <Chaze007> ELLOO.
#4858 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> Chaze007: no need to should; the acoustics in here are fantastic.
#4859 [21:38] <Chaze007> Are there any SMP commands I can use to make editing easier
#4860 [21:38] <xales> editing...?
#4861 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> the best editing command is `vim`
#4862 [21:38] <xales> ^
#4863 [21:38] <Chaze007> I want to build certain stuff on my server map.
#4864 [21:38] <Chaze007> before I put it online.
#4865 [21:38] <xales> use a map editor or install a plugin
#4866 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> so.. build it?
#4867 [21:39] <xales> /mod
#4868 [21:39] <xales> or yeah, just build it
#4869 [21:39] <Chaze007> Like, without mods, like, giving myself items
#4870 [21:39] <FlyingWhales13> There isn't any... I just now got the latest free version
#4871 [21:39] <xales> FlyingWhales13: Isn't any what?
#4872 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> even if you go the pansy route, you can /give yourself waw material
#4873 [21:39] <Chaze007> I will build it, I just don't wanna do it in stone :D
#4874 [21:39] <Chaze007> exactly what I wanted to know, alright
#4875 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> FlyingWhales13: it might be 'resident shield'
#4876 [21:39] <clank714> WorldEdit is the new Cuboid pretty much.
#4877 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> Chaze007: /give yourname itemcode quantity
#4878 [21:40] <Chaze007> DopeGhoti: is there a size limit to the maps?
#4879 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> approximately eight earths
#4880 [21:40] <xales> actually, bigger
#4881 [21:40] <xales> much much bigger
#4882 [21:40] <xales> that's just how far until the generator breaks
#4883 [21:40] <Chaze007> Is there a way to define the size limit?
#4884 [21:40] <xales> with a mod
#4885 [21:40] <FlyingWhales13> Resident sheild, alright
#4886 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> Chaze007: run a nightly tool to chop the edges off of your map?
#4887 [21:40] <Chaze007> I don't want a hugenormousgimongious map for like, 7 people.
#4888 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> heh, like http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/map/ is?
#4889 [21:41] <FlyingWhales13> Yay! Thanks xales and nevercast
#4890 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> though that's more like for 20 people now
#4891 [21:41] <xales> Chaze007: It won't grow unless it needs to
#4892 [21:41] <Chaze007> broken links ftw?
#4893 [21:41] <xales> only if someone tries to move to an uncreated part of it will it get bigger
#4894 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> huh
#4895 [21:41] <Chaze007> So it grows on how much you build basically?
#4896 [21:41] * DopeGhoti checks the server
#4896 [21:41] <Chaze007> ahh, i see.
#4897 [21:42] <SkiingPenguins> more you build / more you explore = bigger map size right?
#4898 [21:42] <xales> more you explore
#4899 [21:42] <xales> build, no
#4900 [21:42] <SkiingPenguins> oh.
#4901 [21:42] <SkiingPenguins> cause are takes up space in the map file?
#4902 [21:42] <SkiingPenguins> air*
#4903 [21:43] <Chaze007> biggest question
#4904 [21:43] <Chaze007> is there a command to keep it day, or something D:
#4905 [21:43] <Chaze007> or turn off mobs etc.
#4906 [21:44] <xales> once again
#4907 [21:44] <xales> with mods
#4908 [21:44] <xales> this stuff isn't built in
#4909 [21:44] <Chaze007> alrighty.
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#4911 [21:46] <DopeGhoti> okay, that's weird
#4912 [21:46] <DopeGhoti> apache was running, but needed to be restarted?
#4913 [21:46] <Chaze007> xales: and I'm guessing to change the spawn location is also a mod?
#4914 [21:46] <xales> change it for one person, or everyone?
#4915 [21:47] <xales> for everyone, you can use a map editor or a mod.
#4916 [21:47] <Chaze007> doesn't everyone spawn in one place? :P
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#4918 [21:48] <DopeGhoti> Chaze007: until tomorrow, yes
#4919 [21:48] <xales> supposedly until tomorrow
#4920 [21:48] <Chaze007> until tomorrow, new update?
#4921 [21:48] <DopeGhoti> then people can spawn in a location of their choosing
#4922 [21:48] <Chaze007> cool, enlighten me?
#4923 [21:49] <DopeGhoti> http://notch.tumblr.com http://www.mojang.com
#4924 [21:49] <Con> spawn on other peoples heads
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#4927 [21:52] <Fenryk> I've got a question about a plugin I tried using with Bukkit..
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#4929 [21:52] <Chaze007> wowie
#4930 [21:52] <Chaze007> apparently they already fixed my server
#4931 [21:52] <Arkose> Fenryk: refer to #bukkit for Bukkit support.
#4932 [21:52] <Fenryk> Thanks.
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#4934 [21:52] <Chaze007> what is bukkit?
#4935 [21:53] <Chaze007> I see it in my mods list :P
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#4937 [21:53] <xales> ?? google
#4938 [21:53] <VoxelHead> google: http://google.com/ is your friend. Do not expect us to find things for you, when you are just as capable of using Google on your own. We aren't your personal Internet guide.
#4939 [21:54] <wazzup80> I am having problems with SimpleServer. I can use Minecraft default server software and get on 1st try but I cant get on at all with SimpleServer
#4940 [21:55] <wazzup80> ^please help
#4941 [21:55] <xales> ?? mods
#4942 [21:55] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#4943 [21:55] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#4944 [21:56] <Chaze007> xD, making me feel dumb.
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#4947 [21:57] <EmpiresBane> i have one of those 2 inch jaw breakers, but i have no idea how to eat it...
#4948 [21:57] <EmpiresBane> it's just sitting there, mocking me
#4949 [21:57] <nevercast> THIS IS SOOOO COOL :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uyxVmdaJ-w
#4950 [21:58] <nevercast> Yes I'm yelling, but It needs to be screamed about
#4951 [21:58] <DopeGhoti> EmpiresBane: cut it into quarters.
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#4953 [21:59] <EmpiresBane> but.... i think there's something in the center
#4954 [22:00] <DopeGhoti> Nougat?
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#4956 [22:00] <EmpiresBane> i'm not sure, if i remember right, it's basically just powdered sugar
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#4958 [22:00] <DopeGhoti> also, EmpiresBane I got your FR for VoxelHead and I'm working on it right now.
#4959 [22:01] <EmpiresBane> erm... what?
#4960 [22:01] <DopeGhoti> I heard you requested a feature. I'm implementing it.
#4961 [22:01] <EmpiresBane> oh
#4962 [22:01] <EmpiresBane> cool, which feature would that be?
#4963 [22:01] <xales> ^
#4964 [22:01] <DopeGhoti> flood control
#4965 [22:02] <EmpiresBane> oh. doesn't AuBot have that?
#4966 [22:02] <DopeGhoti> specifically, control for people asking for thirty FAQs and having VoxelHead slowly flood the channel
#4967 [22:02] <EmpiresBane> oh... yeah, that'd be cool
#4968 [22:11] <Dahjin> gah this is sooo confusing >.>
#4969 [22:12] <xales> ?
#4970 [22:12] <Dahjin> still trying to figure out why the textures are moved 2 pixels to the left
#4971 [22:13] <xales> =\
#4972 [22:13] <xales> did you try
#4973 [22:13] <xales> ?? win/profile
#4974 [22:13] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4975 [22:13] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4976 [22:13] <Dahjin> yesh
#4977 [22:13] <xales> still broken?
#4978 [22:13] <Dahjin> mhmm
#4979 [22:13] <xales> =\
#4980 [22:13] <Dahjin> yea this
#4981 [22:13] <Dahjin> annoying
#4982 [22:13] <Dahjin> been trying to fix this in between lol que's
#4983 [22:14] <DopeGhoti> Dahjin: are even the default textures displaced?
#4984 [22:14] <Dahjin> yes
#4985 [22:14] <Dahjin> i had default
#4986 [22:14] <Dahjin> then i tried a texture pack
#4987 [22:15] <Dahjin> my charactor's png texture is also displaced alittle bit
#4988 [22:15] <DopeGhoti> but before you tried the texture pack, were the default ones okay, or displaced?
#4989 [22:15] <Dahjin> displaced
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#4991 [22:16] <DopeGhoti> I presume you deleted .minecraft/{bin,textures}?
#4992 [22:16] <Dahjin> correct
#4993 [22:17] <Dahjin> !calc 6 (t * (1 / 1.5) + t * (1 / 2) )
#4994 [22:17] <GreyBot> Answer: 6
#4995 [22:17] <DopeGhoti> In that case, something has gone pear-shaped with either your eyes, Java, or your video card/drivers
#4996 [22:17] <Dahjin> well before this happened
#4997 [22:17] <Dahjin> i had the blackscreen error
#4998 [22:17] <Dahjin> then i redid java my drivers etc
#4999 [22:17] <Dahjin> then it went to this
#5000 [22:17] <DopeGhoti> well, that's something at least
#5001 [22:21] <Dahjin> is there anykind of thing for texture offset?
#5002 [22:22] <DopeGhoti> Well, you could install a special offset texture pack?
#5003 [22:23] <Dahjin> ><
#5004 [22:23] <nevercast> LOL
#5005 [22:23] <nevercast> Well it is an option
#5006 [22:23] <Dahjin> true
#5007 [22:23] <Dahjin> but where am i gonna get that
#5008 [22:23] <Dahjin> :P
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#5010 [22:23] <DopeGhoti> /usr/local/bin/gimp
#5011 [22:24] <Dahjin> haha
#5012 [22:24] <nevercast> Now that I have DropBox, I just need to put something in it :D
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#5014 [22:24] <xales> nevercast: ooh pick me!
#5015 [22:24] <nevercast> xales, you want to be in my DropBox?
#5016 [22:24] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: cd ~/Dropbox; ln -s ~/.minecraft/World1/
#5017 [22:24] <xales> yes
#5018 [22:24] <Dahjin> well i did just find something weird with the flowers
#5019 [22:25] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, ~/.minecraft/saves/World1/
#5020 [22:25] <DopeGhoti> I wonder if Dropbox would work as a very strange, shost-in-the-machine style multiplayer?
#5021 [22:25] <nevercast> IIRC
#5022 [22:25] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: probably; I don't muck with SSP much (:
#5023 [22:25] <DopeGhoti> s/shost/ghost/
#5024 [22:25] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, well if it was Multiplayer, It would just be /world
#5025 [22:25] <nevercast> lol.
#5026 [22:26] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, You could maybe keep two servers in sync?
#5027 [22:26] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Idk how well it'd work
#5028 [22:26] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: the idea being, people play SSP with worlds synced via DropBox
#5029 [22:26] <nevercast> hmm.
#5030 [22:27] <nevercast> Possible :D
#5031 [22:27] <DopeGhoti> 'course, only one person would have .minecraft/saves/World1 symlinked to ~/Dropbox/; everyone else would symlink from Dropbox into ~/.minecraft
#5032 [22:28] <nevercast> I thought any symlink, is multi directional
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#5034 [22:29] <Dahjin> http://i56.tinypic.com/2ptz77l.jpg
#5035 [22:29] <Chaze007> uhm
#5036 [22:29] <Chaze007> I think someone is TRYING to scam me.
#5037 [22:29] <nevercast> Chaze007, ?
#5038 [22:29] <Chaze007> it's weird
#5039 [22:29] <Chaze007> I just made a server, which nobody even knows is public yet.
#5040 [22:29] <Chaze007> let me grab the server log.
#5041 [22:29] <Chaze007> xD
#5042 [22:29] <nevercast> make sure you pastebin that shit
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#5044 [22:30] <DopeGhoti> Dahjin: that's.. baffling
#5045 [22:31] <Chaze007> nevercast: http://pastebin.com/AEMURDAF
#5046 [22:31] <DopeGhoti> Dahjin: I'd submit that on getsatisfaction/mojang to see if anyone else has seen that sort of problem
#5047 [22:32] <xales> DopeGhoti: "quick memory editor"?
#5048 [22:32] <xales> you're not doing anything to Minecraft with that, are you? :P
#5049 [22:32] <DopeGhoti> also
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#5051 [22:33] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dahjin fubar/hamachi
#5052 [22:33] <VoxelHead> Dahjin: (fubar/hamachi) The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#5053 [22:33] <VoxelHead> Dahjin: (fubar/hamachi) It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#5054 [22:33] <Chaze007> Any feedback on that?
#5055 [22:33] <DopeGhoti> Chaze007: I think it was just someone who was going to try and ban you from your own server
#5056 [22:33] <Chaze007> Figures.
#5057 [22:33] <Chaze007> xD
#5058 [22:33] <DopeGhoti> "Op me for free stuff!" Righ.
#5059 [22:34] <DopeGhoti> s/./t./
#5060 [22:34] <nevercast> Chaze007, Lol!!
#5061 [22:34] <DopeGhoti> "Damokt's Ladies"? I don't want to know.
#5062 [22:34] <nevercast> I know who se7ensins.com are though
#5063 [22:34] <nevercast> But I don't trust that dude
#5064 [22:34] <Chaze007> me neither.
#5065 [22:35] <Chaze007> I think he was using aliased company names.
#5066 [22:35] <DopeGhoti> anyone who spells seven with a 7 instead of a V needs to be stabbed in the neck with a bowling ball.
#5067 [22:35] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, It's a site that has been around for like 10 years
#5068 [22:35] <Dahjin> whats wrong with hamachi D:
#5069 [22:35] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, They do mods and addons for games
#5070 [22:35] <DopeGhoti> The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#5071 [22:35] <Dahjin> i use it for my ragnarok onlines
#5072 [22:35] <DopeGhoti> also, because of that, Hamachi is killing the internet.
#5073 [22:36] <DopeGhoti> or trying to.
#5074 [22:37] <Dahjin> but hamachi is <3
#5075 [22:37] <DopeGhoti> also, Chaze007- Anyone who says "Trust me; I have lots of youtube subscribers" needs to be looked at with suspicion. That was a real 'WTF' moment in the log for me.
#5076 [22:37] <Arkose> DopeGhoti: http://www.thief4.com :P
#5077 [22:37] <DopeGhoti> no, hamachi is }:-[
#5078 [22:37] <Chaze007> What would be the point of banning me from my own server, don't I OWN the files? xD
#5079 [22:38] <DopeGhoti> Chaze007: to be a pain in the ass?
#5080 [22:38] <Chaze007> and youtubers are generally idiots. D:
#5081 [22:38] <Chaze007> ones like that anyone
#5082 [22:38] <Chaze007> anyway*
#5083 [22:38] <Chaze007> and his grammar, and use of language was pretty bad.
#5084 [22:40] <DopeGhoti> (the fact that someone other than me is calling out people for their grammar makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. It's like a million silenced voices suddenly broke into song.)
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#5087 [22:43] <nevercast> Damn Net
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#5090 [22:44] <ckellingc> I have a question, i've googled but found no answer. I am trying to play multiplayer classic but keep getting "Fatal Error (7)". I updated Java and Flash both, but to no avail.
#5091 [22:44] <xales> Do you have an antivirus running?
#5092 [22:45] <ckellingc> nope, and it's brower not clientside.
#5093 [22:45] <xales> what browser?
#5094 [22:45] <ckellingc> firefox
#5095 [22:46] <xales> can you take a screenshot of the error?
#5096 [22:46] <DopeGhoti> Mojang did a lot of work today on their sites, they may have left Classic broken
#5097 [22:46] <xales> DopeGhoti: singleplayer though?
#5098 [22:46] <xales> oh
#5099 [22:46] <xales> multiplayer
#5100 [22:46] <xales> d'oh
#5101 [22:47] <ckellingc> my friends are playing it now, that's whats throwing me off
#5102 [22:47] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Tobias got Classic working before he went home.
#5103 [22:47] <ckellingc> i've tried to find out what error 7 is, but am not really finding any answers
#5104 [22:47] <xales> ckellingc: can you screenshot the error?
#5105 [22:47] <ckellingc> on it
#5106 [22:49] <ckellingc> http://img580.imageshack.us/i/85119504.jpg/
#5107 [22:49] <xales> ckellingc: www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#5108 [22:50] <ckellingc> yup it's worknig
#5109 [22:50] <xales> hrm
#5110 [22:50] <ckellingc> and i jus downloaded the newest version as well
#5111 [22:50] <xales> ok
#5112 [22:50] <xales> go download, install, and run CCLeaner
#5113 [22:51] <xales> do a cleanup and a registry repair (repair it until there are no errors)
#5114 [22:51] <xales> make sure to close your browser before doing that
#5115 [22:52] <xales> since your using Mibbit, you can download another IRC client if you want to stay connected here, or just reopen it when you are done
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#5117 [22:52] <ckellingc> k i got the link copied, i'll be back if this doesn't fix it.
#5118 [22:53] <Chaze007> I have to admit
#5119 [22:53] <Chaze007> and feel free to agree
#5120 [22:53] <Chaze007> but minecraft is beautiful.
#5121 [22:53] <nevercast> agreed.
#5122 [22:53] <Chaze007> even though it's all blocks, just the way it is, is beautiful.
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#5124 [22:53] <nevercast> Like when you have a sunset, over some massive cliff face or canyon. and you have your little house all lit up by tourches
#5125 [22:53] <nevercast> It's amazing
#5126 [22:53] <Chaze007> this hd texture pack makes it even better xD
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#5128 [22:54] <nevercast> Yeah so true.
#5129 [22:54] <Chaze007> and the betterlight and bettergrass
#5130 [22:54] <Chaze007> i'm using Misu
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#5132 [22:54] <nevercast> Chaze007, BetterLight, BetterGrass?
#5133 [22:54] <ckellingc> that didn't do it either
#5134 [22:54] <nevercast> What is that
#5135 [22:54] <Chaze007> bettergrass makes the hills smoother, and better light gives realistic lighting
#5136 [22:55] <nevercast> realistic lighting that eats my CPU more?
#5137 [22:55] <Chaze007> xD
#5138 [22:55] <Chaze007> worth it.
#5139 [22:56] <Chaze007> this place is beautiful, had a forest in it, but i chopped it all down, it's where i'm going to make my SMP main area.
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#5142 [22:56] <ckellingc> does anyone know how to fix "Fatal Error (7)" in classic?
#5143 [22:56] <Chaze007> Try a different browser?
#5144 [22:56] <ckellingc> tried both firefox and IE
#5145 [22:56] <Chaze007> I use chrome
#5146 [22:57] <Chaze007> maybe it's java?
#5147 [22:57] <ckellingc> java is current, flash is current,
#5148 [22:57] <Chaze007> reinstall them both?
#5149 [22:57] <ckellingc> i'm at a loss for words lol
#5150 [22:57] <xales> ckellingc: try this
#5151 [22:57] <xales> ?? win/profile
#5152 [22:57] <xales> VoxelHead: why you no work
#5153 [22:57] <xales> D:
#5154 [22:57] <xales> bleh
#5155 [22:57] <xales> ckellingc: make a new user account, and try it with that
#5156 [22:58] <Chaze007> would you liek to see the area i'm building in?
#5157 [22:58] <xales> that way, we can determine if it's a system-wide problem of just an acocunt setting that's screwing it up
#5158 [22:58] <Chaze007> I must say it's quite appealing.
#5159 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> xales: flood control is in place on ??; use ??> for now
#5160 [22:58] <ckellingc> on it
#5161 [22:58] <xales> DopeGhoti: how flood control
#5162 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> xales: if the flood counter is hit, it /notices the inquirant
#5163 [22:58] <xales> ah
#5164 [22:58] <xales> it should indicate that
#5165 [22:58] <xales> >.>
#5166 [22:59] <xales> not just give the message
#5167 [22:59] <ckellingc> same message
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#5169 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> ckellingc - xales meant, make a new windows user account
#5170 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> not minecraft
#5171 [23:00] <ckellingc> just tried disabling a bunch of my addons, same message.
#5172 [23:00] <ckellingc> ah
#5173 [23:01] <Chaze007> tis beautiful? http://i51.tinypic.com/15cbs47.png
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#5175 [23:03] <ckellingc> k i was able to get on my guest account
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#5177 [23:05] <xales> ckellingc: I'd suggest just using that account to play then
#5178 [23:05] <xales> there are so many things it could be causing that
#5179 [23:05] <ckellingc> k thanks
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#5181 [23:07] <Chaze007> did anyone see?
#5182 [23:07] <Chaze007> I have no comments D:
#5183 [23:07] <Chaze007> http://i51.tinypic.com/15cbs47.png
#5184 [23:07] <Chaze007> I think it's a beautiful place to build a village.
#5185 [23:08] <Kealper> :o
#5186 [23:08] <Arkose> pretty
#5187 [23:08] <Arkose> until the creepers come D:
#5188 [23:08] <Chaze007> I'm going to fence it in >:D
#5189 [23:09] <Chaze007> you can change spawn points with mods right?
#5190 [23:09] <Chaze007> or the main spawn point anyway
#5191 [23:09] <Arkose> if you're talking single player an editor like MCEdit can do that for you
#5192 [23:09] <Chaze007> I want you to be able to spawn there in SMP. :o
#5193 [23:10] <Arkose> ah, well, depends on the server mod, but most have some function like /setspawn or whatever that you can do within the game
#5194 [23:10] <Arkose> that then makes your current spot the default spawn point for everyone
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#5196 [23:11] <Arkose> if your server doesn't have that sort of mod you'd need to use an external editor to achieve the same result
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#5198 [23:11] <Chaze007> and there's no default setspawn correct?
#5199 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> correct
#5200 [23:11] <Chaze007> alright.
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#5203 [23:22] <Chaze007> gr.
#5204 [23:22] <Chaze007> how do i turn the monsters off D:!
#5205 [23:22] <xales> multiplayer?
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#5207 [23:23] <Chaze007> yes
#5208 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Edit your server.properties to have spawn-monsters turned to false
#5209 [23:25] <Chaze007> spawn-monsters=false
#5210 [23:25] <Chaze007> monsters=false
#5211 [23:25] <Chaze007> It's like that
#5212 [23:25] <Chaze007> but monsters are still in my map.
#5213 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Did you reboot the server?
#5214 [23:25] <Chaze007> hmm, sec
#5215 [23:26] <Empis_Home> lol
#5216 [23:26] <Chaze007> \O/
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#5222 [23:44] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Lauless
#5223 [23:45] <Lauless> hello
#5224 [23:54] <DopeGhoti> wow did this place ever stop on a dime.
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#5226 [23:55] <Lauless> I'm going to take the plunge...406
#5227 [23:55] <xales> ?
#5228 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> Oh.. kaaay.
#5229 [23:56] <Lauless> my test server....craftbukkit 406....
#5230 [23:57] <xales> 406?
#5231 [23:57] <xales> oh
#5232 [23:57] <xales> version number?
#5233 [23:57] <Lauless> yea