#1 [00:00] <trandin0> Yep
#2 [00:00] <relsqui> trandin0: wait, what happens when you try to play offline?
#3 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Tpimp - Did you find it?
#4 [00:00] <Tpimp> yea, but now i need help again
#5 [00:00] <trandin0> its goes to a black screen
#6 [00:00] <killergut> does it map multiplayer maps?
#7 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Alright.
#8 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> killergut - Yes
#9 [00:00] <Tpimp> when i replace the files they come back -.-
#10 [00:01] <Tpimp> thus i cant play on the server
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#12 [00:01] <relsqui> trandin0: hrm, that's weird. don't know anything about that issue, sorry. maybe someone else will.
#13 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Tpimp - When you launch minecraft, it should've asked you whether or not you wanted to update
#14 [00:01] <Tpimp> it doesnt
#15 [00:01] <trandin0> well oh my lord..
#16 [00:01] <Tpimp> it auto-updates
#17 [00:01] <trandin0> I just "forced update"
#18 [00:01] <trandin0> and its working...
#19 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#20 [00:01] <relsqui> Tpimp: are you using the new launcher?
#21 [00:01] <relsqui> trandin0: oh, nice.
#22 [00:01] <Breakeno> http://server.minecraft.name/map/
#23 [00:01] <Breakeno> how do you do that>?
#24 [00:01] <trandin0> Okay well thank you relsqui for helping, I truly apprecaite it.
#25 [00:02] <Tpimp> yes
#26 [00:02] <relsqui> heh, don't think I did much, but you're welcome, have fun
#27 [00:02] <trandin0> Now I am going to enjoy my long awaited first play of minecraft
#28 [00:02] <trandin0> lol
#29 [00:02] <trandin0> You tried at least :D
#30 [00:02] <relsqui> ... monsters are clipping through my mine wall
#31 [00:02] <relsqui> nice of them to give me a warning
#32 [00:03] <relsqui> oh hey, slime!
#33 [00:03] <relsqui> I made a friend
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#35 [00:05] <Breakeno> how do you do the live map?
#36 [00:06] <ItsCriminal> dynmap im using
#37 [00:08] * xolotl hugs the new (for vanilla) region format
#37 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#38 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/misc-dynmap-v0-12-1-realtime-minecraft-maps-314.489/
#39 [00:08] <Breakeno> dynmap?
#40 [00:08] * GreyVulpine points to link above
#40 [00:08] <ItsCriminal> it works fine for me and it looks nice
#41 [00:09] <ItsCriminal> not the best pictures quality but you see what it should be :D
#42 [00:09] <ItsCriminal> but somehow i love the Pixel fest :D
#43 [00:10] <Breakeno> im creeping some guy named kato_SAn
#44 [00:10] <Breakeno> http://server.minecraft.name/map/
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#47 [00:10] <Breakeno> but hes not moving
#48 [00:10] <relsqui> maybe the guy just isn't moving :P
#49 [00:11] <Breakeno> hes not >.<
#50 [00:11] <relsqui> -_- there is a mob of slimes on the other side of this door.
#51 [00:11] <relsqui> that's ... entertaining, but worrying
#52 [00:11] <Breakeno> SLIME?
#53 [00:11] <Breakeno> lol
#54 [00:11] <Breakeno> pigman?
#55 [00:11] <ItsCriminal> Breakeno what is that mapplug u are using?
#56 [00:11] <Breakeno> lol
#57 [00:11] <Breakeno> mapplug?
#58 [00:11] <relsqui> yeah. slimes are more common now.
#59 [00:12] * GreyVulpine points ItsCriminal at https://github.com/brownan/Minecraft-Overviewer
#59 [00:12] <Breakeno> http://server.minecraft.name/map/
#60 [00:12] <ItsCriminal> thank you so much GreyVulpine
#61 [00:12] <toaster_brown> Breakeno: what mapping tool is that?
#62 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> toaster_brown - https://github.com/brownan/Minecraft-Overviewer
#63 [00:12] <Breakeno> IIIIIIMMMMMM SOSOOOOOOO CCCCCOOOOONNNNFFFFFFUUUUUUSSSSSSEEEEEEDDDDDDD!
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#65 [00:13] <toaster_brown> cheers
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#67 [00:13] <Breakeno> ask its criminal he sent that link first
#68 [00:13] <ItsCriminal> i sendet nothing o.O
#69 [00:13] <ItsCriminal> whats wrong with you
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#71 [00:13] <killergut> man getting one of these mapers is so hard
#72 [00:13] <Empis_Home> whey new bukkit :)
#73 [00:14] <killergut> grevulpine which mapper do you sggest
#74 [00:14] <Breakeno> >.<
#75 [00:14] <toaster_brown> I use c10t right now, nothing fancy, but it does the job
#76 [00:14] <toaster_brown> well, fancy in comparison to minecraft-overviewer
#77 [00:14] <toaster_brown> but its solid
#78 [00:14] <Breakeno> ;
#79 [00:14] <Breakeno> ..
#80 [00:15] <Breakeno> i have noidea what anyone is talking about :P
#81 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Really all depends on your needs
#82 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> I'll agree with toaster_brown that c10t is solid
#83 [00:15] <killergut> well im not sure xD
#84 [00:15] <killergut> i mean it would be cool to be able to see my 3d building
#85 [00:16] <relsqui> Breakeno: they're talking about third-party tools that are used to generate maps of minecraft servers
#86 [00:16] <relsqui> (or single-player games I uppose)
#87 [00:16] <relsqui> Breakeno: that is, map viewing tools
#88 [00:16] <toaster_brown> I cronjob c10t to see how very little progress I've actually made ;P
#89 [00:16] <killergut> im doing it for multiplaer
#90 [00:16] * GLaDOS kicked Breakeno from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: IIIIIIIIII FFFFFFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLIIIIIIKKKKKKKEEEEEEEE KKKKKKKKKIIIIIIIIICCCCKKKKKKKKIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG YYYYYYYOOOOOOUUUUUUU)
#91 [00:16] <relsqui> XD
#92 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#93 [00:16] <GLaDOS> anyway
#94 [00:16] <toaster_brown> haha
#95 [00:17] <toaster_brown> cheers GLaDOS
#96 [00:17] <Empis_Home> hmm, only me got problem with removing of minecarts via diamondblock?
#97 [00:17] <Empis_Home> it doesn't disapear
#98 [00:18] <Empis_Home> and by bag gets full of them, wtf
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#100 [00:19] <Breakeno> i got kicked for added alot of the same letters to one one by GLaDOS
#101 [00:19] <Breakeno> like really?
#102 [00:19] <GLaDOS> oh hey someone who gets why they were kicked from a sarcastic kick message
#103 [00:20] <GLaDOS> welcome
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#105 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#106 [00:20] <relsqui> haha
#107 [00:20] <Breakeno> lol.
#108 [00:20] <Breakeno> um.
#109 [00:21] <Breakeno> given voice?
#110 [00:21] <Breakeno> was i a mute?
#111 [00:21] <Breakeno> mine*
#112 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> No Breakeno
#113 [00:22] <Breakeno> ok
#114 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> +v is just a mode that lets you talk, when the channel is muted (+m)
#115 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, it just unofficially denotes a recognized member™ in the channel
#116 [00:23] <Breakeno> ok?
#117 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> In this case, all the people with voice in this channel are recognized Helpers.
#118 [00:23] * GreyVulpine kicks GLaDOS.
#118 [00:23] <Breakeno> oh?
#119 [00:23] <Breakeno> um?
#120 [00:23] <Breakeno> lol
#121 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> For you, just ignore it.
#122 [00:23] <Breakeno> ok
#123 [00:24] <Breakeno> lol
#124 [00:26] <xolotl> I think I actually preferred not having "natural" sandstone
#125 [00:27] <xolotl> (I mean, I don't exactly feel STRONGLY about it; it was just fun having to be more careful around natural sand formations)
#126 [00:28] <Breakeno> lol yah
#127 [00:28] <relsqui> heh
#128 [00:29] <Breakeno> ?
#129 [00:29] <relsqui> I like it because it makes my door hidden under a sandstone shelf even more subtle
#130 [00:29] <relsqui> (it's open to the outside, but it's under an overhang of sand, held up by sandstone)
#131 [00:29] <Breakeno> lol
#132 [00:29] <Breakeno> i just build massive towns for servers
#133 [00:30] <Breakeno> :D
#134 [00:30] <Breakeno> then blow it up :D
#135 [00:30] <relsqui> :P
#136 [00:30] <Breakeno> wish i had a hpvr
#137 [00:30] <relsqui> one of my friends is building an underground town that abuts my main mine
#138 [00:30] <relsqui> houses, roads, trees, etc.
#139 [00:30] <relsqui> at bedrock level
#140 [00:30] <Breakeno> lol
#141 [00:30] <relsqui> it's neat
#142 [00:31] <Breakeno> i have a town 3/4 more then 80000 cubes
#143 [00:31] <Breakeno> only 6 of us made
#144 [00:31] <Breakeno> like
#145 [00:32] <Breakeno> 80000 cubes north/west to south/east
#146 [00:32] <relsqui> cool
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#148 [00:32] <Breakeno> its freaking huge
#149 [00:32] <relsqui> how detailed?
#150 [00:33] <Breakeno> very
#151 [00:33] <Breakeno> 4 ppl make the building 2 go a detail it
#152 [00:33] <Breakeno> good system
#153 [00:33] * relsqui nods
#153 [00:33] <relsqui> makes sense
#154 [00:33] <Breakeno> yu[
#155 [00:34] <Breakeno> yup
#156 [00:34] <Breakeno> lol
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#158 [00:34] <Breakeno> :(
#159 [00:34] <relsqui> maybe I'll go help him with his town. I haven't done much by way of big projects lately
#160 [00:34] <Breakeno> :'(
#161 [00:34] <relsqui> other than the mine
#162 [00:34] <Breakeno> lol help who?
#163 [00:34] <relsqui> my friend who's building one
#164 [00:34] <Breakeno> oh ya
#165 [00:35] <relsqui> it's little so far, just a couple of houses
#166 [00:35] <Breakeno> whats the server ip
#167 [00:35] <Breakeno> ?
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#169 [00:36] <Breakeno> yo relsqui?
#170 [00:36] <relsqui> not public, sorry :)
#171 [00:37] <Breakeno> alright i was only going to check it out lol
#172 [00:37] <Breakeno> but alright
#173 [00:37] <relsqui> understood
#174 [00:37] * relsqui twiddles thumbs, watches glass melt
#174 [00:37] <relsqui> (have four stacks and a bit going in three furnaces, waiting to take them someplace else)
#175 [00:37] <Breakeno> i got my admin status i got to keep up on the server i use
#176 [00:38] <relsqui> :)
#177 [00:38] <relsqui> I'm an op but most of us on this server are
#178 [00:38] <relsqui> it's all people who know each other outside mc
#179 [00:38] <Breakeno> why do i get connection refused : connect?
#180 [00:39] <relsqui> at which stage?
#181 [00:39] <Breakeno> trying to connect to a server (multi-player survival)
#182 [00:39] <relsqui> hmm. is the error consistent?
#183 [00:39] <relsqui> it sounds like it's on the server side; try !check?
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#185 [00:40] <Breakeno> where do i type that
#186 [00:40] <Breakeno> ?
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#188 [00:40] <relsqui> here. !check <ip>
#189 [00:40] <Empis_Home> !check
#190 [00:40] * lemon-rev i wonders how dark its really going to get after new caves found, finding it really darkish now, i have 1.3 lol
#190 [00:40] <Empis_Home> !check minecraft.sandhack.se
#191 [00:40] <TheBix> guys I got 0 FPS
#192 [00:41] <TheBix> how do I fix
#193 [00:41] <TheBix> !check eh?
#194 [00:41] <Breakeno> !check 192.168.1.103:25565
#195 [00:41] <relsqui> heh
#196 [00:41] <relsqui> yeah, you need to give it the ip/dns address
#197 [00:41] <Breakeno> !check 192.168.1.103:25565
#198 [00:41] <Empis_Home> Breakeno: smart
#199 [00:41] <relsqui> <3 aubot
#200 [00:41] <TheBix> what does check do?
#201 [00:41] <Breakeno> !check 65.95.132.168
#202 [00:42] <relsqui> it checks to see if the minecraft server at the ip given is up and running
#203 [00:42] <TheBix> oh
#204 [00:42] <TheBix> ok
#205 [00:42] <relsqui> Breakeno: looks like yours is not :)
#206 [00:42] <Empis_Home> only mine working :D
#207 [00:42] <relsqui> got port open, not firewalled, etc. etc.?
#208 [00:42] <Breakeno> i dont have a server i
#209 [00:42] <TheBix> oi guys
#210 [00:42] <relsqui> oh. then it's good that doesn't work :P
#211 [00:42] <Breakeno> want to check other guys
#212 [00:42] <TheBix> how do I got like no FPS
#213 [00:42] <TheBix> how do I fix?
#214 [00:42] <relsqui> well, you can try it with the one you'd like to check
#215 [00:42] <relsqui> TheBix: I've heard of people having this issue but I don't know what's going on and haven't seen it myself, sorry
#216 [00:42] <TheBix> and don't say buy a better machine, thats coming.
#217 [00:43] <Breakeno> !check85.236.100.2:27565
#218 [00:43] <Breakeno> yes.
#219 [00:43] <relsqui> actually, you didn't
#220 [00:43] <Empis_Home> lol
#221 [00:43] <relsqui> need a space after "check"
#222 [00:43] <Breakeno> oh
#223 [00:43] <relsqui> :)
#224 [00:43] <Empis_Home> !check 85.236.100.2:27565
#225 [00:43] <Empis_Home> isnt working
#226 [00:43] <Breakeno> !check 85.236.100.2:27565
#227 [00:43] <relsqui> okay. now it seems like it is actually down.
#228 [00:44] <Breakeno> mean hes updating it maybe?
#229 [00:44] <relsqui> could be.
#230 [00:44] <Breakeno> NICE
#231 [00:44] <Breakeno> but its bed time.
#232 [00:44] <Breakeno> fuck
#233 [00:44] <Breakeno> duck*
#234 [00:44] <Empis_Home> my convert took about 10sec
#235 [00:44] <relsqui> oh. yeah. I should probably think about that too.
#236 [00:44] <relsqui> Empis_Home: small world?
#237 [00:44] <Empis_Home> about 80-90MB
#238 [00:44] <relsqui> I don't run a server, I have no idea what the scale is for map sizes :P
#239 [00:45] <TheBix> hey guys. Is there a way to get opengl to render using hardware acceleration AND software at the SAME TIME!
#240 [00:45] <Empis_Home> relsqui: u need some damn server power for a mc-server :P
#241 [00:45] <Breakeno> 80-90mb is pretty big
#242 [00:45] <relsqui> yeah, that's WHY I don't run a server XD
#243 [00:45] <Empis_Home> Breakeno: hmm nah, its been up for a week hehe
#244 [00:45] <Breakeno> never mind then :(
#245 [00:46] <TheBix> anyone?
#246 [00:46] <Breakeno> crush my spirts much
#247 [00:46] <Breakeno> spirits
#248 [00:46] <Breakeno> idk thebix
#249 [00:47] <Breakeno> !check 192.168.1.103:25565
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#251 [00:47] <XaoMoaX> Hi. Is there a mini map in minecraft? And if so, how do I access it?
#252 [00:47] <relsqui> XaoMoaX: not stock, no
#253 [00:48] <relsqui> there are mods which do that, but they aren't supported here :) google around or try #risucraft
#254 [00:48] <aetherian> minimap?
#255 [00:48] <Empis_Home> like a radar
#256 [00:48] <Empis_Home> that would be cool
#257 [00:48] <relsqui> on an unrelated note, I just realized that there is no way I know of to prevent slimes from spawning in train tunnels >_<
#258 [00:48] <Breakeno> lol killl them
#259 [00:48] <Breakeno> ?
#260 [00:49] <relsqui> uh
#261 [00:49] <relsqui> a) that doesn't stop them from spawning
#262 [00:49] <relsqui> which is an issue when you're trying to move throuh at speed on a minecart
#263 [00:49] <relsqui> and b) you *can't* reliably kill them right now
#264 [00:49] <relsqui> some of them can't be struck
#265 [00:49] <relsqui> known bug
#266 [00:50] <Breakeno> ahhh never in-countered one.
#267 [00:50] <XaoMoaX> Ah, kk. I do like the beds. They don't do much, but they at least add some furniture value to homes.
#268 [00:50] <relsqui> they used to be quite rare
#269 [00:50] <relsqui> XaoMoaX: yeah, ditto
#270 [00:50] <relsqui> they became more common in this update
#271 [00:50] <lemon-rev> beds ie sign = box = sign ?
#272 [00:50] <relsqui> no, there are real beds now
#273 [00:50] <relsqui> in this update
#274 [00:50] <lemon-rev> how do you make them
#275 [00:50] <XaoMoaX> beds = 3 wool and 3 wood planks
#276 [00:50] <XaoMoaX> wool on top
#277 [00:50] <lemon-rev> lol
#278 [00:51] <relsqui> what XaoMoaX said
#279 [00:51] <lemon-rev> nice
#280 [00:51] <XaoMoaX> color doesn't matter, it remains a red bed
#281 [00:51] <relsqui> yeah, silly but true
#282 [00:51] <GLaDOS> THIS CHANNEL IS NOW FOR UNO
#283 [00:51] <XaoMoaX> But, technically, it just makes it morning
#284 [00:51] <relsqui> yup
#285 [00:51] <aetherian> yay glados :D
#286 [00:51] <XaoMoaX> doesn't remove monsters, or wash dishes
#287 [00:51] <aetherian> do it
#288 [00:51] <relsqui> I was surprised that that even works in SMP! as long as everyone on the server is sleeping
#289 [00:51] <Breakeno> how do you play uno?
#290 [00:52] <Breakeno> on a chat?
#291 [00:52] <relsqui> I've seen bots that do it, quite well actually
#292 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#293 [00:52] <aetherian> do it do it :DDD
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#295 [00:52] * GreyVulpine shouldn't.
#295 [00:53] <aetherian> GreyVulpine should
#296 [00:53] * GreyVulpine sets mode +shutup aetherian.
#296 [00:53] <XaoMoaX> You know what we still need though, that I'm hoping notch will seriously consider, is mining hats
#297 [00:53] <Breakeno> lol
#298 [00:53] <relsqui> haha
#299 [00:53] <relsqui> protection from gravel falling on head?
#300 [00:53] <XaoMoaX> I mean, in a game called minecraft, I think it's a needed thing
#301 [00:53] <aetherian> hurr hurr
#302 [00:53] <XaoMoaX> Naw, just a weak helmet light
#303 [00:53] <Breakeno> diamond helmet is fine
#304 [00:54] * aetherian is tempted to just start it himself
#304 [00:54] <relsqui> oh man
#305 [00:54] <Breakeno> lol
#306 [00:54] <relsqui> the helmet light
#307 [00:54] <relsqui> yeah, that would rule
#308 [00:54] <XaoMoaX> there's a mod for it, but I prefer no lights
#309 [00:54] <relsqui> I want any portable light, honestly
#310 [00:54] <XaoMoaX> er, no mods rather
#311 [00:54] <TheBix> hey guys
#312 [00:54] <Breakeno> torch
#313 [00:54] <XaoMoaX> I agree
#314 [00:54] <Breakeno> hi
#315 [00:54] <relsqui> no, portable as in carryable
#316 [00:54] <Breakeno> torch
#317 [00:54] <TheBix> is it possible to have open gl rendering with software and hardware acceleration at the same time?
#318 [00:54] <XaoMoaX> Rel, my thoughts were, mining helmet, and lamp
#319 [00:55] <XaoMoaX> lamp for handheld
#320 [00:55] <relsqui> .... do you actually not understand what I mean or are you just being annoying?
#321 [00:55] <Breakeno> place unplace move place
#322 [00:55] <relsqui> XaoMoaX: yeah. well, we're getting lamps
#323 [00:55] <XaoMoaX> portable light lamps?
#324 [00:55] <relsqui> but I dunno if they'll work like that
#325 [00:55] <TheBix> anyone?
#326 [00:55] <XaoMoaX> I hope so
#327 [00:55] <relsqui> I haven't seen anything that said so. we'll see I guess.
#328 [00:55] <Breakeno> idk sry thebix
#329 [00:55] <XaoMoaX> But yeah, I think both would not only add to folks mining more, but just overall add to the name of the game
#330 [00:55] * relsqui nods
#330 [00:56] <XaoMoaX> And, what do ink sacks do?
#331 [00:56] <relsqui> they're black dye
#332 [00:56] <XaoMoaX> or....they fuel lamps
#333 [00:56] <XaoMoaX> see?
#334 [00:56] <XaoMoaX> We're on to some stuff here
#335 [00:56] <Breakeno> seeya guys nice knowing you bye forever (sadface)
#336 [00:56] <relsqui> so long
#337 [00:57] <XaoMoaX> I know it technically doesn't make sense, but neither does throwing lapis at a sheep to make it blue
#338 [00:57] <relsqui> haha
#339 [00:57] <relsqui> I was about to say
#340 [00:57] <XaoMoaX> bye Breakno
#341 [00:57] <relsqui> but fair
#342 [00:57] <roblog> okay. who wants to help me test my server? i need to find out if i'm having the permissions problem too.
#343 [00:57] <XaoMoaX> why is breakno leaving?
#344 [00:58] <relsqui> roblog: what do you need?
#345 [00:59] <roblog> relsqui: i need to find out if 1) permissions are screwed up: apparently non-ops have access to op commands in some cases.. 2) if whitelist is working.
#346 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Sign me up
#347 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> IP?
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#349 [00:59] <relsqui> if you need a second person I can do it, if not I'll leave it to GV
#350 [00:59] <roblog> minecraft.gmrjrnl,info
#351 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm not whitelisted
#352 [01:01] <roblog> GreyVulpine: lol. i spelled it greyvupline by accident.
#353 [01:01] <roblog> well that answers my question about native whitelisting
#354 [01:04] <roblog> thanks GreyVulpine. much appreciated.
#355 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> No problem.
#356 [01:04] <roblog> now to figure out how to fix the permissions plugin. that's no beuno.
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#358 [01:05] <killergut> omg these mapping things therye so annoying
#359 [01:05] <killergut> who said the simpele one somethin called like c10p or somehin
#360 [01:06] <morton> can you help me out. whenever i try to log onto the server i have been playing on it says "connection refused:connect"
#361 [01:06] <relsqui> morton: what's the ip?
#362 [01:06] <morton> 8.17.251.132
#363 [01:06] <relsqui> !chcek 8.17.251.132
#364 [01:06] <relsqui> ahem
#365 [01:07] <relsqui> !check 8.17.251.132
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#367 [01:07] <relsqui> just in case the extra space matters
#368 [01:07] <relsqui> !check 8.17.251.132
#369 [01:07] <Mix> Is Minecraft currently working on Mac?
#370 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Mix - No
#371 [01:07] <relsqui> morton: if that's the correct IP, the server isn't configured correctly
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#373 [01:07] <morton> hmm maybe thats it
#374 [01:08] <Mix> Ty Grey. Thought I was going crazy!
#375 [01:08] <morton> thats the IP i have been using for months and i have been able to log on
#376 [01:08] <CoLoN> how do the 3 levels of the diode work?
#377 [01:08] <relsqui> morton: might be down to update
#378 [01:09] <morton> how do i reconfigure the server?
#379 [01:09] <morton> update? ok
#380 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Mix, but unfortunately, it's not just you, all the mac users have trouble with the newest minecraft
#381 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Just need to wait for an update
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#383 [01:09] <morton> im using a PC
#384 [01:09] <TheBix> hey guys
#385 [01:09] <morton> oh mix my bad
#386 [01:09] <TheBix> how do I speed up minecraft?
#387 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> speed up?
#388 [01:10] <TheBix> ya
#389 [01:10] <relsqui> he's having fps issues
#390 [01:10] <TheBix> make it run less slow
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#392 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Um, other than turning up fog, turning down the rendering quality..
#393 [01:10] <TheBix> I got a shit pc and since the update I can't get my FPS back up. Don't say buy new hardware cause thats coming in a few months
#394 [01:10] <CoLoN> anyone know how the 3 lvls of the new diode work?
#395 [01:10] <TheBix> Turning up fog makes it worse
#396 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> That was about to be my next suggestion
#397 [01:11] <relsqui> I've heard that some people are having fps plummet since the update
#398 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> CoLoN - It's just a delay block
#399 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> each notch of the delay is another tick it waits
#400 [01:11] <CoLoN> ahh
#401 [01:11] <CoLoN> why does it say repeater?
#402 [01:11] <TheBix> GEDDIT?! NOTCH!!
#403 [01:11] <XaoMoaX> I have another suggestion that may help
#404 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> delay, repeater, same thing
#405 [01:11] <XaoMoaX> Try some of the simpler texture packs to help fps
#406 [01:12] <TheBix> I already have the original 16x16 ones
#407 [01:12] <XaoMoaX> I've experimented with them and on some laggy servers, I've found I move around find with some
#408 [01:12] <XaoMoaX> True, but you'd be amazed what works
#409 [01:12] <relsqui> any suggestions for dealing with slimes? is it just not possible to hit some of them right now?
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#411 [01:12] <XaoMoaX> Diamond sword
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#413 [01:12] <XaoMoaX> I've never seen a slime, I feel left out
#414 [01:13] <TheBix> Hey
#415 [01:13] <TheBix> I heard that minecraft isn't multithreaded
#416 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> It isn't
#417 [01:13] <TheBix> is it true
#418 [01:13] <XaoMoaX> TheBix, look into simple texture packs, like the cellshaded ones, and some of the others
#419 [01:13] <TheBix> thats really really bad design
#420 [01:13] <XaoMoaX> I do find they help fps a ton
#421 [01:13] <TheBix> esp when you use BLOCKING network functions.
#422 [01:13] <XaoMoaX> by cutting down down on block detail
#423 [01:13] <TheBix> thats incredibly bad design
#424 [01:13] <relsqui> XaoMoaX: I'm using a diamond sword. I cannot affect these slimes.
#425 [01:14] <relsqui> XaoMoaX: they became more common in the current update and I think they also got buggier :\
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#429 [01:16] <Puddles> hey guys
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#431 [01:16] <TheBix> man I hate hardware acceleration
#432 [01:16] <Puddles> How dO I reverse an update
#433 [01:16] <xales> Puddles: you don't
#434 [01:16] <Puddles> Yea you can though..
#435 [01:16] <TheBix> Puddles: if u have the latest one
#436 [01:16] <Puddles> lol
#437 [01:16] <TheBix> u don't
#438 [01:16] <xales> you can, but it is illegal
#439 [01:16] <TheBix> unless you just wanna play online
#440 [01:16] <Puddles> well im gonna figgure it out
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#442 [01:16] <TheBix> xales: since when?
#443 [01:16] * relsqui reads up on slimes
#443 [01:16] <Puddles> sue me lol..
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#445 [01:16] <relsqui> oh, no, apparently they're supposed to be this buggy
#446 [01:17] <xales> TheBix: Since http://minecraft.net/copyright.jsp
#447 [01:17] <Puddles> Well they better make server updates
#448 [01:17] <Puddles> so I can play online
#449 [01:17] <roblog> GreyVulpine: got time to try again? build 424 just dropped which is supposed to fix the permissions
#450 [01:17] <Puddles> I'm gonna continue figuring out how to drop an update til lthen.
#451 [01:17] <TheBix> xales: what in that is against old versions?
#452 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Sure roblog
#453 [01:17] <xales> TheBix: Distributing
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#455 [01:17] <Puddles> I already paid for it
#456 [01:17] <xales> If you didn't get it from minecraft.net, you got it illegally
#457 [01:17] <Puddles> so too bad for them.
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#459 [01:17] <TheBix> xales: EXACTLY
#460 [01:17] <xales> minecraft.net doesn't have old versions
#461 [01:18] * xales kicked Puddles from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: That attitude will not be tolerated here)
#462 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> roblog - Say when.
#463 [01:18] <TheBix> sicne when did DISTRUBUTING mean downgrading?
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#465 [01:18] <TheBix> xales: what if you already have a copy of the old one?
#466 [01:18] <Puddles> lol
#467 [01:18] <roblog> GreyVulpine: you're whitelisted. :)
#468 [01:18] <xales> TheBix: that's one thing
#469 [01:18] <TheBix> downgrading isn't illegal
#470 [01:18] <xales> but downloading it / upload it for others is
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#472 [01:18] <ajvpot> !test
#473 [01:18] <Puddles> My attitude is fine, I paid for this game I plan on playing it dont force your crap updates on me unless you are gonna pre warn your servers who make your game even possible.
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#475 [01:18] <ajvpot> !test mc.spacedjase.com
#476 [01:19] <ajvpot> i think thats it
#477 [01:19] <ajvpot> anyone care to help?
#478 [01:19] <xales> it's !cjecl
#479 [01:19] <ajvpot> ^^
#480 [01:19] <xales> *!check
#481 [01:19] <Zuty> !test 68.82.252.139
#482 [01:19] <xales> Puddles: You can, you know, play offline
#483 [01:19] <ajvpot> !check mc.spacedjase.com
#484 [01:19] <ajvpot> use !check
#485 [01:19] <xales> or, don't update in the first place
#486 [01:19] <xales> it gives you an option.
#487 [01:19] <ajvpot> !check 68.82.252.139
#488 [01:19] <Zuty> !check 68.82.252.139
#489 [01:19] <mib_2hhyip> So, I downloaded the server file...but I can't find server.properties?
#490 [01:19] <Puddles> Offline play is garbage I love the enjoyment of others company.
#491 [01:19] <ajvpot> Zuty, is the server currently on?
#492 [01:19] <Shadow386> xales some people are having problems being able to NOT update
#493 [01:19] <xales> mib_2hhyip: Run it once
#494 [01:19] <Shadow386> like many of my players are having problems trying not to update
#495 [01:20] <xales> Shadow386: did they click the "no" to update in the launcher? ._.
#496 [01:20] <Zuty> Yeah, I will just go check to router again.
#497 [01:20] <Puddles> Yes our servers we play on cant figure out how to update their server
#498 [01:20] <Shadow386> it doesnt even show up
#499 [01:20] <Shadow386> just auto-updates
#500 [01:20] <Puddles> Xales figure out how to update out servers so we can continue playing.
#501 [01:20] <xales> Shadow386: then they aren't using the new launcher
#502 [01:20] <TheBix> Puddles: tell em to redownload the sever software
#503 [01:20] <relsqui> Puddles: the server admin just needs to download the new server ...
#504 [01:20] <Shadow386> they were using the new launcher, one couldnt evenget the launcher started
#505 [01:20] <Puddles> kk
#506 [01:20] <Shadow386> xales I was teamviewing
#507 [01:20] <xales> Shadow386: I haven't heard of anyone else not seeing the update screen in the launcher
#508 [01:20] <relsqui> okay. lava doesn't hurt sliems either.
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#510 [01:21] <Shadow386> ill double check with leech and steel
#511 [01:21] <killergut> anyone use c10t?
#512 [01:21] <relsqui> I'm standing on a pillar surrounded by slimes and lava
#513 [01:21] <roblog> well now that that's fixed... GreyVulpine thanks for your help.
#514 [01:21] <relsqui> it sounds like I'm in the middle of a popcorn popper
#515 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#516 [01:21] <Puddles> what bucket?
#517 [01:21] <Puddles> will buckets work with the new updates
#518 [01:21] <killergut> and ye all these mappers...theyre like impossible to figure out how to use
#519 [01:21] <toaster_brown> GreyVulpine - do you yourself use Minecraft-Overviewer?
#520 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> No I don't.
#521 [01:22] <Puddles> All the pluggins will they work>?
#522 [01:22] <killergut> what do u use grey?
#523 [01:22] <Puddles> Xales with the pluggins we have will they work on this new server softwarE?
#524 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Briefly touched c10t back then, used um
#525 [01:22] <xales> Puddles: I don't know. Any the support of unofficial, unsupported, third party modifications is not my problem
#526 [01:23] <xales> and*
#527 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Tectonicus back in alpha
#528 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> That one, I liked
#529 [01:23] <roblog> http://ci.bukkit.org/job/dev-CraftBukkit/424/ <- working build of craftbukkit for testing. so far all my plugins work just fine.
#530 [01:23] <XaoMoaX> Try trapping the slims
#531 [01:23] <XaoMoaX> Slimes
#532 [01:23] <Zuty> If I am connecting to my router through an extender, will that give me a different IP and make it not possible to port forward? Or does the extender not matter and it all goes to the main router?
#533 [01:23] <ajvpot> thank you
#534 [01:23] <ajvpot> Zuty, possibly, check the extender
#535 [01:23] <xales> Zuty: extender?
#536 [01:23] <xales> what
#537 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Zuty - Depends on the "Extender"
#538 [01:23] <ajvpot> depends on the type
#539 [01:23] <ajvpot> xales, wireless bridge
#540 [01:23] <xales> oh
#541 [01:24] <mib_2hhyip> I can't find server.properties to edit anything about my server...it's like it wasn't downloaded with the server itself.
#542 [01:24] <xales> if you are doing that...
#543 [01:24] <toaster_brown> hmm.. darn, I'm getting a: you require at least python 2.6 error, despite using 3.1
#544 [01:24] <xales> prepare for mega-lag
#545 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_2hhyip - It's generated when you launch the server for the first time
#546 [01:24] <xales> mib_2hhyip: as I said
#547 [01:24] <xales> you need to run the server once
#548 [01:24] <roblog> typically extenders just act like switches... so it shouldn't give a new ip. it seems pretty dumb to do double-dhcp (triple counting isp lease)
#549 [01:24] <Puddles> of course we pay money to play this game the only reason I paid was to play on a single private server.. not ot play offline and you guys screw it up with an update hah
#550 [01:24] <Puddles> w.e
#551 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Some wireless bridges do
#552 [01:25] <Puddles> good way to keep business
#553 [01:25] <relsqui> Puddles: "you guys"?
#554 [01:25] <relsqui> oh well
#555 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Ragequit
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#557 [01:25] <xales> People like that
#558 [01:25] <xales> actually
#559 [01:25] <xales> nevermind
#560 [01:25] <xales> fucking Mibbit
#561 [01:26] <xales> ruining my bans
#562 [01:26] <xales> :<
#563 [01:26] <killergut> rofl
#564 [01:26] <killergut> its not like notch does it on purpose
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#566 [01:26] <relsqui> https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/13951537/1/Minecraft?h=8b3361#gallery:5 any suggestions for getting out of this? the lava does not hurt the slimes. the diamond sword does not hurt the slimes.
#567 [01:27] <relsqui> they just seem to be multiplying
#568 [01:27] <xales> lol
#569 [01:27] <xales> probably should dig straight up and run away
#570 [01:27] <TheBix> OMFG!!
#571 [01:27] <TheBix> DID THEY MAKE REDSTONE FASTER?!!
#572 [01:28] <killergut> wow what the?
#573 [01:28] <relsqui> okay, I could do that, or tp out, or log out until they despawn, but ... in the long term
#574 [01:28] <relsqui> is the bottom of the map just inaccessible now?
#575 [01:28] <relsqui> full of unkillable monsters?
#576 [01:28] <xales> wait for an update I guess
#577 [01:28] <xales> =/
#578 [01:28] <roblog> now that i have my server up and running... i need to find a good map for a colony-based rp/pvp server.
#579 [01:28] <relsqui> I was afraid of that :\
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#581 [01:29] <relsqui> just for shits and giggles I'm going to see if I can get out of here without teleporting
#582 [01:29] <relsqui> I have one stack of cobble
#583 [01:29] <Mikau1> dig straight down
#584 [01:29] <relsqui> and I'm in a mineshaft about 50 deep, with various floors
#585 [01:29] <relsqui> I'm at bedrock, I ain't digging nowhere
#586 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> Holy crap that's a lotta slime
#587 [01:30] <relsqui> yeah. I dunno if you can see in that screenshot the two closed doors with more slimes packed behind them
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#589 [01:31] <killergut> anyone currently using a mapper?
#590 [01:31] <relsqui> one has been run on the server I play on but I don't administer it
#591 [01:32] <Mikau> That's better
#592 [01:32] <iLambby> er
#593 [01:32] <iLambby> im not on #xkcd am i
#594 [01:32] * iLambby confused
#594 [01:33] * relsqui blinks
#594 [01:33] <relsqui> no, but I am
#595 [01:33] <relsqui> why?
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#597 [01:34] <relsqui> or was that a "wait, I see familiar faces from another network"
#598 [01:34] * relsqui is slow, but gets there eventually
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#599 [01:36] <relsqui> heh
#600 [01:36] <relsqui> decided to log out for the night, checked the new launcher again for kicks
#601 [01:36] <lunasky> for some reason i cant talk in the #minecraft
#602 [01:36] <relsqui> got in fine
#603 [01:36] <relsqui> lunasky: you need to register your nick, as it says in the topic there. /msg nickserv help register
#604 [01:36] <lunasky> i thought i registered already
#605 [01:36] <relsqui> have you identified this session?
#606 [01:36] <xales> lunasky: you have to identify ("log in") each time
#607 [01:36] <lunasky> and just incase it was for a diff like #bukkit
#608 [01:37] <lunasky> ahh how may i ask?
#609 [01:37] <Mikau> I'm like Bruce Wayne as Batman, I never identify
#610 [01:37] <xales> if you use a better client (not Mibbit), you can set it up to do it automatically
#611 [01:37] <xales> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password
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#614 [01:38] <relsqui> Mikau: weird, I was reading the latest survivingtheworld.com when you said that
#615 [01:38] <relsqui> xales: I thought mibbit could do it if you made an account
#616 [01:38] <Haalus> So is anyone getting Outdated Server even after they update their server?
#617 [01:38] <xales> relsqui: you still have to type the password each time
#618 [01:38] <xales> Haalus: are you using Bukkit?
#619 [01:38] <Mikau> I don't know what that is, but I'll claim I wrote.
#620 [01:38] <Haalus> Nope, no addons
#621 [01:38] <jellow> Hello after updating im greeted with this error http://pastebin.com/ , linux
#622 [01:38] <relsqui> xales: oh, do you? wouldn't know
#623 [01:38] <xales> Haalus: You downloaded the latest .exe or .jar from minecraft.net?
#624 [01:39] <relsqui> jellow: you just linked to the main pastebin site, not your submission
#625 [01:39] <Mikau> Maybe that is the error.
#626 [01:39] <Mikau> Maybe the server called him a pastebin.
#627 [01:39] <Haalus> The .zip I download from the site just has a .jar, .bat, and README, no .exe
#628 [01:39] <Mikau> I'd retort by making a derogatory comment towards the servers mother.
#629 [01:39] <jellow> relsqui: sorry , http://pastebin.com/w05vsRV4 ( when I open one of my worlds )
#630 [01:40] <TheBix> OMG
#631 [01:40] <relsqui> hm. well, I don't know how to help you, but now maybe someone else can :)
#632 [01:40] <TheBix> redstone is slightly faster
#633 [01:40] <TheBix> time to overclock your creations guys!!!
#634 [01:40] <xales> Haalus: Wrong software then
#635 [01:40] <Haalus> Nevermind, I'm a tard. I was downloading the classic version -.-
#636 [01:40] <xales> Haalus: you downloaded the Classic server
#637 [01:40] <xales> yeah
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#639 [01:40] <xales> :P
#640 [01:40] <relsqui> hehe
#641 [01:41] <jellow> Hello after updating im greeted with this error when I try to open one of my world http://pastebin.com/w05vsRV4
#642 [01:41] <aetherian> heya
#643 [01:41] <TheBix> omg
#644 [01:41] <Mikau> Someone go make and take credit for posting a bug report about beds not always recognizing it being night time on SMP
#645 [01:41] <TheBix> thanks to the repeater block
#646 [01:41] <TheBix> my music machine can lay down a cool beat!
#647 [01:41] <aetherian> :D
#648 [01:41] <Mikau> Sometimes I have to spam click the bed before my pixelated badass gets in it.
#649 [01:41] <xales> jellow: What mods were you running before the update?
#650 [01:42] <jellow> xales: Mo'creaters , Mine colony , and charlotte
#651 [01:42] <xales> are you running any now?
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#653 [01:42] <relsqui> I still haven't played with note blocks. maybe I'll work on that while I'm avoiding the lower levels of the mine
#654 [01:42] <jellow> no I removed my .minecraft folder
#655 [01:43] <XaoMoaX> I've heard of the charlotte one
#656 [01:43] <Mikau> try creating a vanilla server, jellow
#657 [01:43] <xales> jellow: Try starting a new world
#658 [01:43] <xales> does it happen then?
#659 [01:43] <jellow> new worlds work great
#660 [01:43] <XaoMoaX> I've thought of doing the freaks one, since I found mo monsters unbalanced. And using humans and charlotte as well
#661 [01:44] <TheBix> guys
#662 [01:44] <TheBix> what is the shortest tune you know
#663 [01:44] <Mikau> Your world map is trying to load mod related content, which don't exist in minecraft.
#664 [01:44] <TheBix> shortest in beats
#665 [01:44] <Mikau> You'll have to wait until the mods are updated to the new server version.
#666 [01:44] <XaoMoaX> Blur - Song number 2
#667 [01:44] <XaoMoaX> 2 minutes long
#668 [01:44] <xales> jellow: yeah, it sounds like the mods screwed up the automatic updating
#669 [01:44] <TheBix> no
#670 [01:44] <TheBix> ok
#671 [01:44] <relsqui> "hot cross buns." four bars.
#672 [01:44] <TheBix> shortest TUNE you know
#673 [01:44] <XaoMoaX> ooh
#674 [01:44] <XaoMoaX> gotcha
#675 [01:44] <XaoMoaX> Sorry, pappa's hit the rum a little tonight
#676 [01:45] <XaoMoaX> I'm flying higher than Carrot Top in Vegas
#677 [01:45] <TheBix> ok
#678 [01:45] <Mikau> xales, it's likely that the mod added entities to the world (like bunnies) and the v1.3 minecraft is trying to load them
#679 [01:45] <xales> Mikau: something like that, yeah
#680 [01:45] <Mikau> Even without the mods installed, the server is still trying to load those entities and minecraft doesn't know what they are.
#681 [01:45] <jellow> Could i not use MCedit to remove them?
#682 [01:45] <xales> jellow: MCEdit hasn't been updated yet TMK
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#684 [01:46] <aetherian> heya lg
#685 [01:47] <nevercast> xales, aetherian, growing trees underground
#686 [01:47] <jellow> Is there a legal link to downlaod the old version of minecraft prior update?
#687 [01:47] <nevercast> does it need lots of roof clearance?
#688 [01:47] <xales> not that much...some
#689 [01:47] <xales> jellow: unfortunately, no
#690 [01:47] <nevercast> xales 3 blocks is not enough though is it
#691 [01:47] <xales> not even close
#692 [01:48] <relsqui> nevercast: you need at least six iirc
#693 [01:48] <nevercast> FUCK
#694 [01:48] <Mikau> jellow, I always create a new server when minecraft updates.
#695 [01:48] <nevercast> then I have a problem
#696 [01:48] <relsqui> nevercast: details: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tree
#697 [01:48] <Mikau> nevercast, you pottymouth
#698 [01:48] <xales> Mikau: he is running the client
#699 [01:48] <nevercast> Mikau, sorry.. I forget about all the minors :P
#700 [01:48] <xales> not a server
#701 [01:48] <relsqui> nevercast: the whole game is about mining, of course the channel would be full of miners
#702 [01:48] <relsqui> (yeah I bet no one's thought of THAT joke before)
#703 [01:48] <Mikau> Same deal, xales
#704 [01:48] <jellow> I should have backed up the old client , I'll know next time
#705 [01:48] <Mikau> I always backup my .minecraft incase there's a bug
#706 [01:49] <nevercast> relsqui, Original and yet cliche ( new to #minecraft ).. very nice!
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#708 [01:49] <Mikau> even when updates were forced
#709 [01:49] * relsqui takes a bow
#709 [01:49] <Mikau> if the new update was too buggy, I'd replace the old "version" file in my old .minecraft folder with the new updates "version" file, just to stop the update and continue using the old version
#710 [01:50] <OODavo> !paid Icecream02
#711 [01:51] <jellow> I don't understand how my other worlds came out fine even with the mods on
#712 [01:51] <Mikau> They probably didn't have any of the entities that the mod created actually loaded into the chunk you were on
#713 [01:52] <Haalus> So did some authentication thing change for the SMP? Cause now when I try to login to my server it says "Failed to login: Bad login"
#714 [01:52] <Mikau> !paid Mikauk
#715 [01:52] <Mikau> Yay
#716 [01:52] <Mikau> !paid Mikau
#717 [01:52] <Mikau> :P
#718 [01:52] <xales> Haalus: are you using "play offline"?
#719 [01:52] <jellow> what if i nuked the zero chunk ?
#720 [01:52] <aetherian> !paid everyone
#721 [01:52] <xales> !ignore aetherian
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#723 [01:52] <Haalus> I shouldn't be. Maybe I need to update my Minecraft client
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#725 [01:53] <aetherian> hurr hurr
#726 [01:53] <xales> !listen aetherian
#727 [01:53] <jellow> the zero chunk is the where you spawn by default no?
#728 [01:53] * aetherian rolls his eyes
#728 [01:53] <xales> jellow: actually, no =/
#729 [01:53] <xales> finding the spawn chuck is...difficult, to say the least
#730 [01:53] <XaoMoaX> I go to hook up my scanner, and miss a whole bunch of funny stuff I see
#731 [01:53] <Mikau> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=Mikauk
#732 [01:53] <xales> especially without a map editor
#733 [01:54] <Mikau> How come that page doesn't work anymore?
#734 [01:54] <Mikau> Was it because of the server change?
#735 [01:54] <Mikau> ohhh I see what the bed problem is
#736 [01:54] <Mikau> You have to get in a bed from the side
#737 [01:54] <Mikau> if you try from the foot of the bed, it gives the error that you can only use it at night, regardless of the time
#738 [01:55] <Mikau> I see what you did there, Mr. Bed.
#739 [01:55] <Mikau> I'm onto your tricks.
#740 [01:55] <nevercast> relsqui, Light level of 9 or above, directly above the sapling... Is that as in the first solid block above the sapling.. or directly above? ( including air )
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#742 [01:56] <Mikau> !help
#743 [01:56] <Mikau> Linebreak, what the devil.
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#745 [01:57] <aetherian> ooh
#746 [01:57] <aetherian> more things
#747 [01:57] <Mikau> I thought that read "serverfag" at first.
#748 [01:57] <aetherian> haha
#749 [01:57] <Mikau> I was about to make derogatory comment towards the bots mother.
#750 [01:57] <aetherian> what is in !serverfaq ?
#751 [01:57] <XaoMoaX> You'd have to insult an Apple II
#752 [01:58] <Mikau> !serverfaq
#753 [01:58] <aetherian> heh
#754 [01:58] <aetherian> people can follow that, they tend to just need help with portforwarding
#755 [01:59] <roblog> oh hell yes. 1.3 automatically converts old maps to new format. notch is wise for his backwards compatibility.
#756 [02:00] <aetherian> who else here is keeping the old launcher archived somewhere?
#757 [02:00] <Mikau> archived?
#758 [02:00] <Mikau> it's on my desktop
#759 [02:00] <aetherian> as in, not in use
#760 [02:00] <roblog> for setting up your own server, if you're in the US... http://chunkhost.com/r/022211 <- ChunkHost is offering free beta for 5 weeks. Just need a US credit card and you get 512MB RAM, 20GB disk space, and 600GB bandwidth.
#761 [02:01] <Mikau> but I have 12GB of RAM and unlimited bandwidth
#762 [02:01] <AG_Scott> That sounds totally safe.
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#764 [02:04] <Mikau> Seeing a persons card is pretty usless
#765 [02:05] <aetherian> welcome back, aubot
#766 [02:05] <Mikau> unless you feel like guessing the number on the back
#767 [02:05] <Mikau> useless*
#768 [02:05] <Mikau> Which, most credit card companies will catch onto this and automatically lock the card
#769 [02:05] <xales> Mikau: Some transactions don't need it
#770 [02:05] <AG_Scott> Mikau, not everyone needs the CVC
#771 [02:05] <roblog> Mikau: eh. not really. there are still places where you can buy stuff without that number.
#772 [02:05] <Mikau> My sisters bank actually called her cell phone while me and her were shopping because she used her credit card in a different city from where she lives
#773 [02:06] <Mikau> They automatically stopped the transaction, and she was like "what the hell" and had to use her debit card
#774 [02:06] <relsqui> my bank was actually awesome about that
#775 [02:06] <AG_Scott> I don't know what I find more annoying. Getting asked for my card to compare signature or that damn "securecode" thing
#776 [02:06] <relsqui> I was about to travel overseas so I pulled out a bunch of cash in a city on my way there
#777 [02:06] <Mikau> then her cell phone rang before we even got out of the store, and they asked her if she tried to use it, she said yes, and they apologized
#778 [02:06] <relsqui> my bank called me the next day in the airport and said, hey, was this you?
#779 [02:06] <roblog> not all banks do that either. my bank did.. they called me to make sure it was me charging $800 to my card two states away.
#780 [02:06] <relsqui> me: yup!
#781 [02:06] <relsqui> them: oh, okay then.
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#783 [02:07] <relsqui> which seemed like a good way to handle it
#784 [02:07] <relsqui> anyway, 'night
#785 [02:07] <GreyHatSalafi> Anyone else lose their worlds?
#786 [02:07] <aetherian> you shoulda said no :O
#787 [02:08] <nevercast> relsqui, LOL! They show this picture of a cave tree with OVER 9000 torches.. then they are like. Note: Only a single torch by the sapling is needed
#788 [02:08] <nevercast> WTF
#789 [02:09] <aetherian> wha...
#790 [02:09] <Zemedelphos> Hmm...
#791 [02:10] <Zemedelphos> Hey guys, I'm trying to make a texture pack, one for personal use. I changed up a few things, and zipped it to test, but it doesn't seem to be working.
#792 [02:10] <Zemedelphos> Instead of the pack.png I have set, it shows the greyed out version of the original, and doesn't show the text from my "pack.txt" below the name.
#793 [02:10] <Zemedelphos> The name, however, shows.
#794 [02:11] <Zemedelphos> Anyone able to help me figure out what's wrong?
#795 [02:12] <xales> Did you base it on the latest thing, from 1.3?
#796 [02:12] <xales> I know nothing of texture packs though
#797 [02:12] <xales> Kealper might know
#798 [02:12] <Zemedelphos> Every file I built on was copied directly from the minecraft bin.
#799 [02:13] <Zemedelphos> I doublechecked the painterly pack to see, basically, what files I'd need.
#800 [02:13] <Kealper> rawr
#801 [02:13] * Kealper reads up
#801 [02:13] <Zemedelphos> When I "choose" my pack, it still uses the default textures.
#802 [02:13] <aetherian> ono
#803 [02:14] <aetherian> watch out
#804 [02:14] <aetherian> he'll eat you
#805 [02:14] <Kealper> Zemedelphos: are you doing anything special to the final zipped pack?
#806 [02:14] <TheBix> YAY repeater block
#807 [02:14] <TheBix> my music machine is working
#808 [02:14] <Zemedelphos> I'm just zipping it. As a zip, like painterly is. (it wouldn't read as a .rar)
#809 [02:14] <Kealper> could you upload it somewhere so i can check it out?
#810 [02:15] <Zemedelphos> Hmm, one sec
#811 [02:15] <Zemedelphos> I think I found the issue
#812 [02:16] <TheBix> ok guys
#813 [02:16] <TheBix> how fast can a 3 bit counter count?
#814 [02:16] <Kealper> 3 bit counter?
#815 [02:16] <TheBix> ya
#816 [02:16] <TheBix> a 3 bit counter
#817 [02:17] <Kealper> like...cpu type counter? or a timer circuit?
#818 [02:17] <TheBix> u know, a counter. Clock + flip flops
#819 [02:17] <Zemedelphos> Sorry about disturbing you kealper. I figured out when I was zipping the folder, it was making the folder itself the top file in the zip.
#820 [02:17] <TheBix> I'm making a next generation music machine
#821 [02:17] <Kealper> oh...idk, never tried
#822 [02:18] <TheBix> and it now half works THANKS TO THE 1.3 UPDATE
#823 [02:18] <TheBix> HOORYAY!
#824 [02:19] <Zemedelphos> Hmm...apparently you can't mod the clock's face?
#825 [02:19] <Kealper> you can
#826 [02:19] <Zemedelphos> It didn't change, though.
#827 [02:19] <Kealper> oh...well i thought you could o.o
#828 [02:19] <Zemedelphos> I edited the picture...extensively.
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#830 [02:20] <Kealper> anywho, back to afk-from-irc land i go
#831 [02:20] <Uusis> Hi
#832 [02:20] <Zemedelphos> k
#833 [02:20] <roblog> i'm considering making a mod that replaces all of the items and monster with things a little more modern.. like a crowbar instead of a sword, and a modern crossbow instead of a normal bow... thugs instead of monsters, etc.. but would the minecraft community as a whole find it offensive if i changed creepers to terrorist with bombs strapped to their chests?
#834 [02:20] <Zemedelphos> Ask them.
#835 [02:20] <Kealper> roblog: it's horrible, but i laughed at the creeper thing
#836 [02:21] * Kealper is seriously minimizing irc now
#836 [02:21] <roblog> obviously staying away from racial stereotypes.. i'm not going to make the terrorist creepers brown skinned with turbans or anything. lol
#837 [02:21] <Uusis> Anyone else having problems with .exe?
#838 [02:21] <TheBix> roblog: yeah ha
#839 [02:21] <Zemedelphos> Uusis: not me.
#840 [02:21] * roblog doesn't want to perpetuate the stereotype that all muslims are terrorists.
#840 [02:22] <Uusis> My .exe just dies after the mojang-logo
#841 [02:22] <Uusis> :F
#842 [02:22] <Uusis> gives a 0.004 sec error message and that's it.
#843 [02:22] <Uusis> :D
#844 [02:23] <gothroach> I have to play in-browser, my launcher doesn't log in at all :(
#845 [02:23] <Uusis> I tried both - same problem
#846 [02:23] <Uusis> and Java updated just yesterday
#847 [02:23] <gothroach> Tried renaming your .minecraft foler?
#848 [02:23] <gothroach> *folder
#849 [02:23] <Mikau> Players can no longer use the click-release to quickly mine blocks. Note: Only applies to SMP.
#850 [02:23] <Mikau> Who listed that as a bugfix?
#851 [02:24] <Mikau> Kealper, come back, quick!
#852 [02:25] <Zemedelphos> Apparently the lava and water blocks in terrain.png are obsolete, yeah?
#853 [02:27] <Kealper> rawr?
#854 [02:27] <Mikau> Nothing, nevermind.
#855 [02:27] <Kealper> Zemedelphos: seems like it, i have mine edited in my texture pack and was sad to find that they do not change :/
#856 [02:27] <Uusis> woOT!
#857 [02:27] <Uusis> This is gay, it works
#858 [02:27] <Uusis> :d
#859 [02:27] <Mikau> So, it's gay because it works.
#860 [02:27] <Uusis> thx gothrouach
#861 [02:27] <Mikau> Where does it work? a steel mill?
#862 [02:28] <Zemedelphos> kealper: from looking at painterly, though, it seems there are some files with which water is animated.
#863 [02:28] <Zemedelphos> I can probably make something similar for magma.
#864 [02:28] <Uusis> Other meaning of gay :p
#865 [02:28] <Zemedelphos> Now, to figure out why I can't mod the clock...
#866 [02:28] <Kealper> happy? lol
#867 [02:28] <Uusis> :p
#868 [02:29] <Uusis> What is this "seed" thingy?
#869 [02:29] <Uusis> random numbers for random map?
#870 [02:29] <Kealper> random number generation seed
#871 [02:29] <Zemedelphos> A seed is used in a pseudorandom number generator as a starting point.
#872 [02:29] <Uusis> Hmm..
#873 [02:29] <Kealper> what he said
#874 [02:29] <Uusis> Let's try old-fashioned 69
#875 [02:29] <Kealper> different seeds generate different random maps
#876 [02:29] * Zemedelphos rolls eyes
#876 [02:30] <Zemedelphos> I've see so much of that today.
#877 [02:30] <Zemedelphos> XD
#878 [02:30] <Zemedelphos> Sophomoric seeds.
#879 [02:30] <Kealper> XD
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#881 [02:30] <Kealper> nice wording for that :P
#882 [02:30] <Zemedelphos> Someone used hard on, then got one when he was a line of dirt sticking out of a cliff.
#883 [02:30] <Zemedelphos> saw not was
#884 [02:30] <Zemedelphos> I blame my fingers. They're dyslexic.
#885 [02:31] <Kealper> you dyslexia <3? lol
#886 [02:31] <Uusis> Wait what, sandstone as la naturel?
#887 [02:31] <Kealper> no?
#888 [02:31] <Uusis> Yes.
#889 [02:31] <Uusis> :D
#890 [02:31] <Kealper> you have to craft it
#891 [02:31] <Uusis> Nope
#892 [02:31] <Uusis> There are hanging sandstone
#893 [02:32] <Kealper> that's just map generation fail sand
#894 [02:32] <Kealper> hit it and it'll fall down
#895 [02:32] <Zemedelphos> Some have reported finding sandstone generated in their worlds.
#896 [02:33] <Kealper> was this added in 1.3?
#897 [02:33] <Zemedelphos> Possible a feature, not a bug. Sandstone is a natural thing, though.
#898 [02:33] <Kealper> hmmm....
#899 [02:33] <Kealper> me
#900 [02:33] <Kealper> meh*
#901 [02:33] <nevercast> what idiot goes and collects cacti without any sand -.-"
#902 [02:33] <nevercast> << this guy
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#904 [02:33] <Zemedelphos> What idiot can't find cacti?
#905 [02:33] <Zemedelphos> That one^
#906 [02:33] <Uusis> http://img141.imageshack.us/i/sandstone.png/
#907 [02:33] <Zemedelphos> Oh wait, that's me :(
#908 [02:33] <nevercast> Zemedelphos, Look for sand biomes
#909 [02:33] <Zemedelphos> I know
#910 [02:33] <nevercast> Zemedelphos, desert areas
#911 [02:33] * Kealper goes back to slaving over a simmering programming IDE
#911 [02:34] <Zemedelphos> A long, long time ago
#912 [02:34] <nevercast> Kealper, lol.!
#913 [02:34] <Zemedelphos> I went questing for cacti.
#914 [02:34] <Zemedelphos> I couldn't find any, and it got dark
#915 [02:34] <Zemedelphos> So I went home.
#916 [02:34] <Zemedelphos> So I built a boat.
#917 [02:34] <Zemedelphos> It's gathering dust in my chest while I mine.
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#920 [02:34] <Uusis> Oh, there's lots of sandstone
#921 [02:34] <Uusis> It's feature, must be :D
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#923 [02:35] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Hmmh any idea when minecraft will be fixed on macs
#924 [02:35] <Zemedelphos> Praise be the benevolent notch.
#925 [02:35] <Uusis> It's under the normal sand - as it's under preasure
#926 [02:35] <RecoJohnson> Can someone here join my server and see why my redstone wiring isnt working properly? its inverted :(
#927 [02:35] <Zemedelphos> Inverted?
#928 [02:36] <Mikau> server address?
#929 [02:36] <Mikau> Zeekill, what's the problem?
#930 [02:37] <Mikau> Java is platform independant, Minecraft should work on all operating systems.
#931 [02:37] <RecoJohnson> Mikau: 24.77.239.11
#932 [02:37] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :it crashes when I try to go singleplayer
#933 [02:38] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :and this seems to be common with older macs
#934 [02:38] <Mikau> new world or old?
#935 [02:38] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I can't even see the worlds
#936 [02:38] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I can't see the error message either
#937 [02:38] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :it just turns off
#938 [02:38] <Uusis> Oh man, this reminds me why I love the game..
#939 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Zeekill - It's been happening on all macs
#940 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> I'd just wait for an update
#941 [02:39] <AndrewPH> GreyVulpine, not all
#942 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Or a lot.
#943 [02:39] <AndrewPH> GreyVulpine, my friend has a mac and has been playing fine
#944 [02:39] <AndrewPH> :p
#945 [02:39] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Notch tweeted that he said it was fixed
#946 [02:40] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :WTH am I trying to say
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#950 [02:40] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Notch tweeted that it was fixed*
#951 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> mojang's getsatisfaction has tons of reports about macs crashing
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#954 [02:40] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yeah
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#956 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> For the love of..
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#958 [02:40] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Maybe its beause of old java version
#959 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Esper, I hate you too
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#982 [02:41] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Durr
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#987 [02:41] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :esper be trolling
#988 [02:41] <xENO__> :|
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#990 [02:42] <xENO__> This is rather annoying
#991 [02:42] <xENO__> :?
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#993 [02:42] <xENO_> asdfa
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#1001 [02:46] <theliea> hey
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#1006 [02:47] <theliea> minecraft.net server why don't connect .. ?
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#1011 [02:47] <Zemedelphos> Because a lot of people are trying to connect.
#1012 [02:47] <Zemedelphos> This happens after every major update
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#1014 [02:47] <Zemedelphos> They'll prevent it eventually
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#1021 [02:47] <Zemedelphos> Just play offline
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#1024 [02:51] <the_late_man> wha
#1025 [02:51] <the_late_man> why is aubot giving out ops, not chanserv
#1026 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> aubot is ninja-ing chanserv
#1027 [02:52] <the_late_man> :O
#1028 [02:52] <nevercast> I like the numbers above Mobs now
#1029 [02:53] <the_late_man> eh?
#1030 [02:53] <nevercast> I just hit F3 ( which toggles btw )
#1031 [02:53] <nevercast> and BAM! I know where the mobs are
#1032 [02:53] <nevercast> It's like wall hacks :P
#1033 [02:53] <the_late_man> o.o
#1034 [02:53] <nevercast> Beta Feature Abuse is win
#1035 [02:53] <nevercast> BFA :)
#1036 [02:53] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :lol @ apple live support
#1037 [02:54] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :they don't know why we don't get updated version of java
#1038 [02:54] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :but they say that they fixed it
#1039 [02:54] <the_late_man> lol@apple
#1040 [02:55] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Dem support
#1041 [02:55] <the_late_man> who here has donated to the mc documentary kickstarter?
#1042 [02:55] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :
#1043 [02:55] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :It may be because your using the Tiger OS. Updates usually go to the latest OS before going to the older supported OS.
#1044 [02:55] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :lolsupport
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#1046 [02:55] <theliea> oh my can't connect to minecraft.net error EE!!
#1047 [02:55] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :newest major version has been out for ages
#1048 [02:56] <the_late_man> I guess nobody has given money ;_;
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#1051 [02:56] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I think that he will tell me to get a brand new shiny iMac
#1052 [02:57] <mib_84uf2k> Hello, can someone please help me? Ive been trying to log into my Minecraft server all night
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#1055 [02:57] <aetherian> just... ask.
#1056 [02:57] <mib_84uf2k> As soon as I press Login I get "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" in the launcher
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#1058 [02:57] <aetherian> I know the problem
#1059 [02:57] <Zemedelphos> Can someone please update the topic to say that the login server MAY be overloaded?
#1060 [02:57] <mib_84uf2k> But my friend on a pc RIGHT beside me works
#1061 [02:57] <aetherian> you can't connect to minecraft.net
#1062 [02:57] <aetherian> !isdown minecraft.net
#1063 [02:57] <GreyBot> aetherian: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1064 [02:57] <aetherian> hmm
#1065 [02:58] <Zemedelphos> !isdown minecraft.net
#1066 [02:58] <GreyBot> Zemedelphos: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1067 [02:58] <Tensuya> I've got the same problem, can play in browser but not on the version I downloaded
#1068 [02:58] <Zemedelphos> Hmm
#1069 [02:58] <aetherian> Zemedelphos: @_@
#1070 [02:58] <mib_84uf2k> It let me in ONE time
#1071 [02:58] <Zemedelphos> doublechecking
#1072 [02:58] <aetherian> just spam login, mib_84uf2k
#1073 [02:58] <mib_84uf2k> but I havent been able to get in since
#1074 [02:58] <Zemedelphos> I couldn't connect either...
#1075 [02:59] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :oh cool
#1076 [02:59] <mib_84uf2k> Its works fine on the computer beside me
#1077 [02:59] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :apparently this tech support isn
#1078 [02:59] <mib_84uf2k> So it must have something to do with the new launcher
#1079 [02:59] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :'t stupid
#1080 [02:59] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :
#1081 [02:59] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I have searched and it may be Tiger isn't supported for the new Java updates.
#1082 [03:00] <mib_84uf2k> Because this computer beside me is using old launcher still
#1083 [03:00] <Zemedelphos> I'ts not the launcher.
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#1085 [03:00] <Zemedelphos> I logged in with it earlier with the new launcher.
#1086 [03:00] <aetherian> hey mib, you should change you nickname to something that's not a mibbit name.
#1087 [03:00] <aetherian> :)
#1088 [03:00] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :apparently we can't has minecraft on older macs until notch fixes it
#1089 [03:00] <mib_84uf2k> Oh sorry, was just checking to see if this problem was known
#1090 [03:00] <mib_84uf2k> Or if it was just me
#1091 [03:01] <mib_84uf2k> Thanks for the help, anyways
#1092 [03:01] <aetherian> Zeekill: quit trying to play mc on your apple II
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#1094 [03:01] <aetherian> :D
#1095 [03:01] <aetherian> also, according to VoxelHead, I can't play mc on my commodore 64.
#1096 [03:01] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :aetherian: Actually its a tiger iMac and its not mine
#1097 [03:02] <aetherian> this means I can play it on my commodore 128, riiight?
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#1099 [03:03] <cometen> Hello guys I been disconneted after 3 min. from my server java is update. can someone look at this http://pastebin.com/bNEVR8LC
#1100 [03:03] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :of course you can
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#1102 [03:04] <KWB> Hey, quick troubleshooting question for you guys
#1103 [03:04] <Zemedelphos> Hmm...apparently lava and water are both hardcoded into the files.
#1104 [03:04] * aetherian sighs
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#1105 [03:04] <aetherian> yes, kwb?
#1106 [03:04] <Zemedelphos> Then ask, KWB
#1107 [03:04] <aetherian> ??> KWB ask
#1108 [03:04] <Zemedelphos> This IS a help room
#1109 [03:04] <VoxelHead> KWB: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1110 [03:04] <VoxelHead> KWB: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1111 [03:04] <nevercast> God damn!!
#1112 [03:04] <nevercast> Fuckin' Single Player STOP LAGGING
#1113 [03:04] <Zemedelphos> ?
#1114 [03:04] <nevercast> I'm so nerdrage :(
#1115 [03:05] <Zemedelphos> Try limiting your framerate?
#1116 [03:05] <Raze> nevercraft you got yours working?
#1117 [03:05] <nevercast> It's because I'm lost
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#1119 [03:05] <nevercast> Raze, Single player always works
#1120 [03:05] <nevercast> Raze, Just multi is fucked
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#1122 [03:05] <KWB> i just downloaded the new minecraft client for Mac, it works until i click on "single-player", then it crashes.
#1123 [03:05] <KWB> any ideas?
#1124 [03:05] <Raze> My whole Minecraft is fucked :L
#1125 [03:05] <Zemedelphos> We have another in the room with that issue KWB
#1126 [03:05] <aetherian> reinstall?
#1127 [03:05] <Tensuya> I'm able to play from the browser, but when I try to use the launcher it can't connect to minecraft.net, anyone knows how to fix?
#1128 [03:05] <nevercast> KWB, Word on the wire is that OSX is fucked.
#1129 [03:05] <nevercast> KWB, get a real oper :D
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#1131 [03:05] <Zemedelphos> Tensuya; Use the browser.
#1132 [03:06] <Tensuya> But I don't wanna use the browser? :O
#1133 [03:06] <Zemedelphos> Then don't fix it.
#1134 [03:06] <SuicidalMind> My only issue is the login server is down
#1135 [03:06] <KWB> fair enough. ill wait until notch gets the OSX version fixed
#1136 [03:06] <skibol71> hey i have a problem i donwloaded game on a new pc and it's not downloading the packages....
#1137 [03:06] <KWB> thanks for the help
#1138 [03:06] <Zemedelphos> If you're connecting in browser, there's no problem, other than your pickiness.
#1139 [03:06] <skibol71> and also i can't log in in the launcher
#1140 [03:06] <nevercast> The trouble the damn creepers put you through
#1141 [03:06] <aetherian> or just download linux alongside mac os temporarily, and play it on that for the time being.
#1142 [03:07] <RecoJohnson> Mikau: Thanks for the help with my server +points
#1143 [03:07] <skibol71> hey please what's goin on?
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#1146 [03:07] <skibol71> my %appdata% folder is empty
#1147 [03:08] <nevercast> Of course all my items are gone!
#1148 [03:08] <aetherian> then launch mc again...
#1149 [03:08] <nevercast> Why wouldn't they be
#1150 [03:09] <nevercast> Anyone that has owned a Mac computer for more than 24 hours should already have a Linux Distro on there
#1151 [03:09] <nevercast> It's like.. a law or something
#1152 [03:09] <skibol71> i can't connetc to minecraft.net even if i close the launcher and moreover it hasn't downloaded the .minecraft folder
#1153 [03:09] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :fffff
#1154 [03:09] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :This version of iMac can't boot from usb
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#1157 [03:10] <Zemedelphos> Anyone else here have experience with texture packs?
#1158 [03:11] <aetherian> who boots a mac from a usb >.>
#1159 [03:11] <skibol71> i'm really disappointed with this game right now
#1160 [03:11] <aetherian> notch, I dis-
#1161 [03:11] <Mikau> HOW DARE YOU!?
#1162 [03:11] <nevercast> skibol71, what OS are you using?
#1163 [03:11] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :aetherian: For a moment I tought about installing arch
#1164 [03:11] <Mikau> THIS IS AN '85 HONDA
#1165 [03:11] <Mikau> HOW DARE YOU
#1166 [03:11] <Zemedelphos> That's a "no one", then.
#1167 [03:12] <skibol71> wind vista
#1168 [03:12] <aetherian> Zeekill: do you have good knowledge of linux?
#1169 [03:12] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Yes
#1170 [03:12] <nevercast> Zeekill, Then why are you not using Linux?
#1171 [03:12] <Mikau> real men reference nix related things
#1172 [03:12] <nevercast> ^
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#1174 [03:12] <nevercast> Ya know.. OSX is based on unix :)
#1175 [03:12] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :nevercast : This was not my computer a hour ago
#1176 [03:12] <nevercast> .. It's still a toss of shit though
#1177 [03:12] <roblog> anyone who has any computer should have linux installed on it within 24 hours.
#1178 [03:12] <nevercast> ^
#1179 [03:13] <Zemedelphos> How abou tnow.
#1180 [03:13] <roblog> preferably slackware or gentoo, unless you have a vagina.
#1181 [03:13] <Zemedelphos> no*
#1182 [03:13] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :23 hours to go
#1183 [03:13] <aetherian> you can make ubuntu look like a mac
#1184 [03:13] <roblog> then ubuntu.
#1185 [03:13] <nevercast> roblog, Windows XP and Windows 7 I permit.. under the condition they have decent graphics hardware
#1186 [03:13] <Zemedelphos> My computer's got enough shit on it already.
#1187 [03:13] <Zemedelphos> Don't need another OS when I've already got one.
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#1189 [03:13] <nevercast> aetherian, My ubuntu has Docky
#1190 [03:13] <nevercast> aetherian, It already looks like Mac
#1191 [03:13] <aetherian> I have quite a few linux distros on my drive....
#1192 [03:14] <roblog> nevercast: i've never used either. okay, that's a lie.. i did use XP on my work computer at at&t, but their systems run a POS system that's like it's own virtual OS, so i never actually played around with XP.
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#1194 [03:14] * roblog started using linux in 1995.
#1194 [03:15] * aetherian is attempting to figure out how to install linux on a partition but has thus far failed
#1194 [03:15] <roblog> last version of windows i actually had installed on a system i owned was win95 in 1994 (funny it came out -before- 95.)
#1195 [03:15] <Xerati> what flavor
#1196 [03:15] <Xerati> O_o
#1197 [03:15] <Zemedelphos> I'll start using Linux if the earth does get destroyed on Dec 21 2012. lol
#1198 [03:15] <aetherian> haha
#1199 [03:16] <aetherian> I'm trying to use wubi right now...
#1200 [03:16] * roblog is running sabayon right now. gentoo-based distro.
#1200 [03:16] <aetherian> it keeps breaking for kubuntu.
#1201 [03:16] <Zemedelphos> I'm trying to figure out why I can't change the face of the clock.
#1202 [03:16] <Zemedelphos> In minecraft
#1203 [03:17] <Zemedelphos> might be another thing that's compiled in the other files, like water and lava.
#1204 [03:17] <nevercast> roblog, 98 came out in like 97 or some shit
#1205 [03:17] <roblog> my first distro was redhat, and then i moved onto slackware. that's where i think everyone should start. if you can make it through a slackware install and get everything up and running, you will never ask for any computer help ever again.
#1206 [03:17] <roblog> everything is done by hand.
#1207 [03:17] <roblog> you -have- to RTFM... or you fail.
#1208 [03:17] <Zemedelphos> On the other hand, if you can't make it through, you'll never leave a pre-made OS again.
#1209 [03:18] <Raze> How do I get rid of lingering java devices?
#1210 [03:18] <roblog> Zemedelphos: separates the men from the boys, imo.
#1211 [03:18] <Raze> I heard it helped someone with their minecraft and it started running again
#1212 [03:18] <Zemedelphos> Yes, because being a man totally has to do with whether you can sit at your computer. :P
#1213 [03:19] <Zemedelphos> ANyway
#1214 [03:19] <Zemedelphos> Ignore my negativity.
#1215 [03:19] <Zemedelphos> Minecraft just crushed my dreams.
#1216 [03:19] <aetherian> night guys
#1217 [03:19] <aetherian> and haha Zemedelphos
#1218 [03:19] <Zemedelphos> Like a Steve's head under gravel.
#1219 [03:19] <aetherian> I hope it crushes many more
#1220 [03:19] <Zemedelphos> QQ
#1221 [03:19] <aetherian> OO
#1222 [03:19] <Zemedelphos> I spent so much time on that clock dial.
#1223 [03:19] <roblog> Zemedelphos: you know what i meant. :P i don't mean irl. i meant in terms of nerds. :P
#1224 [03:19] <Zemedelphos> I got it all pretty and everything.
#1225 [03:19] <Zemedelphos> roblog, the ":P" didn't tip you off?
#1226 [03:20] <Zemedelphos> No need to get defensive at a quip.
#1227 [03:20] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Hmm, maybe I should use a cd then
#1228 [03:20] <aetherian> bye
#1229 [03:20] <roblog> Zemedelphos: of course it did. that's why i tossed one out too. :D
#1230 [03:20] <Raze> bye bye
#1231 [03:20] * aetherian says good night to aubot
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#1232 [03:21] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :FFFF
#1233 [03:21] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I hate apple
#1234 [03:21] <Zemedelphos> I'm saying your line wasn't neccessary. I understood what you meant, and I had hoped the emote made that apparent.
#1235 [03:21] <Zemedelphos> Lol
#1236 [03:21] <Zemedelphos> More macrage
#1237 [03:21] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Last time I will take a free i
#1238 [03:21] <Zemedelphos> I think I'm off to bed now.
#1239 [03:21] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Mac
#1240 [03:22] <Raze> Grawr
#1241 [03:22] <Raze> This is annoying
#1242 [03:22] <roblog> but in all seriousness, for those who actually enjoy pre-built, closed-source operating systems, more power to ya. i'm a nerd. if something doesn't work the way i want it to, i want to be able to pick up a couple books on the programming language it's written in, download the source, and add the features i want. that's why i use linux.
#1243 [03:23] <roblog> Zeekill: where'd you get a free imac? i want one. :D
#1244 [03:23] <Zemedelphos> Eh, I know nothing about programming, really.
#1245 [03:23] <xENO_> mmm... haskell...
#1246 [03:23] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :From a friend who is a macfag
#1247 [03:23] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :He decided to get his fourth iMac
#1248 [03:23] <Zemedelphos> That's not a very nice term.
#1249 [03:23] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :so I can hawve this
#1250 [03:24] <roblog> Zeekill: lucky. if it pisses you off more and you want to get rid of it.. let me know. :D i love tinkering with macs.
#1251 [03:24] <RecoJohnson> How do i reset a pulser...
#1252 [03:24] <xENO_> break and rebuild?
#1253 [03:24] <RecoJohnson> i restarted my server and now it isnt working
#1254 [03:24] <RecoJohnson> the entire thing?
#1255 [03:24] <RecoJohnson> is there a faster way?
#1256 [03:24] * roblog has been looking for a decent PPC or intel iMac to play with.
#1256 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> remove and replant the redstone torches?
#1257 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps one of them burned out?
#1258 [03:25] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :It will stop pissing me off when I figure out how can I get linux installed when I am far from home and have no cd-burner
#1259 [03:25] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :maybe it needs more redstone
#1260 [03:26] <xENO_> Everything needs more redstone!
#1261 [03:26] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :true
#1262 [03:26] <RecoJohnson> rrh this is so complicated :(
#1263 [03:26] <xENO_> Except my redstone filled double-box...
#1264 [03:26] <xENO_> That needs more inventory slots.
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#1266 [03:26] <cometen> I need some help, I game is crashing
#1267 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Got a crash report?
#1268 [03:27] <cometen> http://pastebin.com/bNEVR8LC
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#1271 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what brand of NIC you have?
#1272 [03:27] <Raze> *Nerdrage*
#1273 [03:27] <roblog> Zeekill: what type of iMac is it? i'll try to figure out an easy way to make it network boot.
#1274 [03:28] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :iMac5,2
#1275 [03:28] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :it supports network boot
#1276 [03:28] <RecoJohnson> Every torch i replace just turns the other one out.
#1277 [03:28] <RecoJohnson> How do i fix?
#1278 [03:28] <cometen> nic ?
#1279 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> cometen - Network interface card,
#1280 [03:28] <xENO_> cometen: Network INterface Card
#1281 [03:28] <cometen> oh
#1282 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Or how your computer is connected to the 'net
#1283 [03:28] <Xerati> GreyVulpine, stop breaking things!
#1284 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1285 [03:28] <Xerati> lol
#1286 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> Job insurance™
#1287 [03:29] <Xerati> LOL
#1288 [03:29] <Xerati> a true techie right there
#1289 [03:29] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :cool
#1290 [03:29] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I can boot this iMac from network
#1291 [03:29] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :but
#1292 [03:29] <cometen> I have a router
#1293 [03:29] <roblog> Zeekill: weird. all of the intel iMacs are supposed to be able to boot from USB. i thought the 5.2 was intel?
#1294 [03:30] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :It thinks that I should use local network
#1295 [03:30] <xENO_> err. what?
#1296 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> cometen - On your computer, do you know the brand of the network card you're running
#1297 [03:30] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :roblog, yeah it is intel but the usb boot seems to be very weird
#1298 [03:30] <nevercast> Woo
#1299 [03:30] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :my USB drive doesn't turn on before the system starts providing enough power
#1300 [03:30] <nevercast> Sugar Cane, Cacti, Trees and Wheet
#1301 [03:30] <nevercast> Did I miss anything?
#1302 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> For..
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#1304 [03:31] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, My underground farm of everything
#1305 [03:31] <xENO_> You forgot chickens.
#1306 [03:31] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ell
#1307 [03:31] <Xerati> goodies and baddies
#1308 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> mushrooms
#1309 [03:31] <Xerati> and eggs
#1310 [03:31] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Well*
#1311 [03:31] <Xerati> you should see my underground farm
#1312 [03:31] <cometen> navidia nforce networkcontroller
#1313 [03:31] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :You forgot creepers
#1314 [03:31] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, What are mushrooms good for
#1315 [03:31] <Xerati> war
#1316 [03:31] <nevercast> Zeekill, I fuckin' hate creepers
#1317 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> mushroom soup
#1318 [03:31] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :lava too
#1319 [03:31] <Xerati> you can't farm mushrooms :(
#1320 [03:31] <Xerati> or pumpkins
#1321 [03:31] <nevercast> Zeekill, If I wanted creepers I wouldn't have bothered with the 70+ torches :D
#1322 [03:31] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :lol
#1323 [03:31] <nevercast> Xerati, why not?
#1324 [03:32] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :You forgot zombie pigmen
#1325 [03:32] <xENO_> Do slimes spawn now?
#1326 [03:32] <Xerati> nevercast, i dunno :(
#1327 [03:32] <Xerati> xENO_, they have since beta 1.2
#1328 [03:32] <Xerati> just...more now
#1329 [03:32] <nanicoar> Hmmm... Nerdrage about slagged auth server subsided. Looks promising.
#1330 [03:32] <xENO_> Under what condidtions do they spawn?
#1331 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> cometen - Is that the only network adapter you're running?
#1332 [03:32] <Xerati> low level (0-20 i think), and only in certain areas
#1333 [03:32] <cometen> yea
#1334 [03:32] <Xerati> very very uncommon
#1335 [03:32] <xENO_> Hrm.
#1336 [03:32] <Xerati> like 1 in 50 chunks
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#1338 [03:32] <xENO_> Certain areas? Bleh.
#1339 [03:33] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :omg GLaDOS
#1340 [03:33] <Xerati> that's how it was in 1.2
#1341 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1342 [03:33] <Xerati> it's diff now, dunno the changes
#1343 [03:33] <xENO_> Supposedly more now.
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#1345 [03:33] <Xerati> supposedly indeed
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#1347 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> cometen - Is this error on your server?
#1348 [03:33] <cometen> there is allso a usb wireless 802.11b/g adaptor but its dis.
#1349 [03:34] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :*IDEA*
#1350 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Well, how is that server currently connected to the network?
#1351 [03:34] <nevercast> my cacti harvestor R havertering :D
#1352 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Via ethernet or wireless?
#1353 [03:34] <cometen> my ip adress
#1354 [03:34] <roblog> damn Zeekill. normally i can figure stuff like this out in 2 mins or less... but every single place i look i find people complaining about how USB boot only wants to start up in the GUID type partition, and that's only for booting OS X from USB for troubleshooting purposes.
#1355 [03:34] <roblog> no wonder you're having a hard time
#1356 [03:34] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :How can I downgrade my minecraft?
#1357 [03:34] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :roblog, exactly
#1358 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Zeekill - If you have the old files, you replace your .minecraft folder
#1359 [03:35] <cometen> the server is runing but the client is crashing
#1360 [03:35] <xENO_> Will Minecraft run on a universal turing machine?
#1361 [03:35] <GreyVulpine> cometen - Are you running the client on the same computer as the server?
#1362 [03:35] <roblog> Zeekill: if you have the old launcher.. that's pretty much the only way. getting them, however, isn't easy because no one wants to violate TOS to provide them.
#1363 [03:35] <cometen> yea
#1364 [03:35] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :inb4piratebay
#1365 [03:35] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Donotwant
#1366 [03:36] <cometen> when i use another pc the game crash to
#1367 [03:36] <xENO_> Why would you want to downgrade Minecraft?
#1368 [03:36] <RecoJohnson> because teh new one doesn't work. lol
#1369 [03:36] <Xerati> servers
#1370 [03:37] <roblog> bingo Zeekill : http://superuser.com/questions/27794/how-to-boot-a-linux-live-usb-on-a-mac that works for Fedora 10.. but i'm sure it can easily be modified for other distros.
#1371 [03:37] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :xENO_ because minecraft is broken on old versions of java
#1372 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> cometen - Hmm
#1373 [03:37] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yay
#1374 [03:37] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :
ACTION hugs roblog

#1375 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> cometen - Can you try running the server on a different machine?
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#1377 [03:37] <cometen> yea I can
#1378 [03:38] <roblog> Zeekill: and if that doesn't work.. http://refit.sourceforge.net/ rEFIt is supposed to work
#1379 [03:38] <roblog> brb... wife snuggle time. she's going to sleep. be back in 10-20mins.
#1380 [03:39] <Raze> Does it take long for the Mojang supprt to respond?
#1381 [03:39] <Raze> By email
#1382 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> We don't know, they only just started using a ticket tracking system
#1383 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> for support
#1384 [03:40] <Raze> I see
#1385 [03:40] <Raze> Thanks
#1386 [03:40] <Raze> Its just
#1387 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/2011/02/22/a-new-daniel-and-a-new-support-system/
#1388 [03:40] <HAWTsken> I got an problem with my new minecraft server, its spesefications is: quad cpu i5, 4gb ddr3 ram, 250 gb hdd, windows xp 32 bit. All drivers are installed, aswell as updates for java and os. The server literly freezes when im on the login phase: "Downloading Terrain". And then the server needs an restart to get up again. Do anyone know what that could be the problem?
#1389 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> HAWTsken - Really, I'd just wait for an update that's likely to roll out in the next few days.
#1390 [03:41] <Raze> I'va had this error report but it only flashes up quickly before the screen turns black or it just closes down
#1391 [03:41] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Oh btw, does minecraft server support cell processors?
#1392 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> There's quite a few bugs in this 1.3 release.
#1393 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> No. Minecraft is not multi-threaded
#1394 [03:42] <HAWTsken> Ok, Hopefully it will be ok soon :)
#1395 [03:42] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp ::(
#1396 [03:47] <cometen> Greyvulpine It seems there are no ploblems when I run the server on another computer.
#1397 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Then it's most likely something to do with that computer
#1398 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> That issue more commonly pops up on bad NICs, atheros being the prime example.
#1399 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Which is why I asked for your NIC brand
#1400 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> Without knowing the specs of that computer, I can either suggest updating your NIC driver, looking for updates to other hardware, looking at your network setup, checking to see that all OS updates are applied...
#1401 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't do it, try a spare NIC, if you have one.
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#1403 [03:51] <cometen> okay, ty for your help
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#1406 [04:01] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Could I use a Dispencer + Arrows or Snow balls ( or even eggs from a chicken farm ) to cut my Sugar cane?
#1407 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I don't know, I've always used a floodgate to quickly cut down wheat/sugar cane
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#1409 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> I don't think I've found anything faster than that yet
#1410 [04:02] <roblog> nevercast: no. they hit sugar cane like it were solid.
#1411 [04:03] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Flood gate being a manual remove of a block?
#1412 [04:03] <nevercast> roblog, well that sucks
#1413 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, basically
#1414 [04:03] <roblog> in fact, sugar cane would be perfect for taking out ghasts if you could get water in the nether. you can shoot out from it, but they can't shoot in.
#1415 [04:03] <nevercast> yeah true
#1416 [04:04] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Is there a way to make it not take out all the cane?
#1417 [04:04] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Like just the top two ?
#1418 [04:04] <roblog> i spent a few hours building massive cobblestone sky scrapers with lava and water last night. it was fun.
#1419 [04:04] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Or am I asking too much?
#1420 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#1421 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> Oh, no.. it'll take out everything
#1422 [04:05] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Water gates? Does it just flood out and destroy all the sugar cane?
#1423 [04:05] <nevercast> okay
#1424 [04:05] <roblog> nevercast: i take out the top two by aim crosshair at middle and spam-clicking while walking straight ahead. lol.
#1425 [04:05] <nevercast> roblog, yeah me too
#1426 [04:05] <nevercast> roblog, But then lag gets me
#1427 [04:06] <nevercast> roblog, and I fuck up the torches on the back wall :D ,3
#1428 [04:06] <nevercast> <3
#1429 [04:06] <nevercast> I think my lil' farm is cute :D
#1430 [04:06] <nevercast> it's a small room but a bit of everything cramped in there :P
#1431 [04:06] <nevercast> 2 saplings that still haven't grown
#1432 [04:06] <nevercast> damn things
#1433 [04:06] * roblog is making a flat grass map for his server.
#1433 [04:07] <nevercast> roblog, you gonna flatten that grass yourself or use something like mineedit?
#1434 [04:07] <roblog> now that iConomy works right, i can actually start up my RP server the way i want it.
#1435 [04:07] <roblog> nevercast: omen.
#1436 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> nevercast - here's an example
#1437 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s83NE-2C4NU&feature=related
#1438 [04:07] <nevercast> omen... Who th-
#1439 [04:07] <roblog> omen is a map editor.
#1440 [04:08] <nevercast> yes yes
#1441 [04:08] <nevercast> sorry I just had to check your version
#1442 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> Okay um, that design sorta sucks, but you get the idea
#1443 [04:08] <nevercast> thought it was an osx editor
#1444 [04:08] <nevercast> was about to nerdrage
#1445 [04:10] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :wat
#1446 [04:11] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :hmmh
#1447 [04:11] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :my attempt on downgrading minecraft failed :(
#1448 [04:11] <nevercast> Zeekill, yeah I tried too lol. but I forgot to block the amazon site so it auto-updated on me
#1449 [04:11] <nevercast> if I actually gave two fucks I could get it downgraded
#1450 [04:11] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I removed ethernet
#1451 [04:12] <nevercast> but I just can't be assed
#1452 [04:12] <nevercast> LOL
#1453 [04:12] <nevercast> removed ethernet?
#1454 [04:12] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yeah
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#1456 [04:12] <nevercast> Well that's extreme
#1457 [04:12] <roblog> nevercast: fuck no.
#1458 [04:12] <roblog> nevercast: gentoo here. i use xchat for esper, but for freenode i use irssi. i haven't bothered to set up esper in irssi yet.
#1459 [04:12] <nevercast> that said, first try I used the 'disable nic' approach
#1460 [04:12] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :rm'd network adapter
#1461 [04:12] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :was like fuuuu how do I get it back
#1462 [04:12] <nevercast> roblog, good man.
#1463 [04:12] <nevercast> Zeekill, uhh.. ifconfig eth0 up
#1464 [04:12] <nevercast> lol.
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#1466 [04:12] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yeah
#1467 [04:13] <nevercast> Linux Nub :P <3
#1468 [04:13] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :except it wasn't eth0
#1469 [04:13] <nevercast> well then how did you disable it?
#1470 [04:13] <nevercast> if you didn't know what it was?
#1471 [04:13] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :eth*
#1472 [04:13] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :well, it was eth1
#1473 [04:13] <nevercast> wildcards on interfaces
#1474 [04:13] <nevercast> rookie
#1475 [04:14] <nevercast> eth1?
#1476 [04:14] <nevercast> that's a bad setup
#1477 [04:14] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :True
#1478 [04:14] <nevercast> Do you have two nics
#1479 [04:14] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :nope
#1480 [04:14] <nevercast> man I'd reassign that shit
#1481 [04:14] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :atleast, I don't think so
#1482 [04:14] <nevercast> I think I had that problem with a linux distro awhile back
#1483 [04:14] <nevercast> I set that shit straight
#1484 [04:14] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :since I have had this computer for like two hours now
#1485 [04:14] <nevercast> it was ath0 for wireless and eth1 for ethernet
#1486 [04:14] <nevercast> it was eth0 and wlan0 before too long :D
#1487 [04:14] <nevercast> gotta have that shit standard
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#1489 [04:15] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :and its running osx (donotwant)
#1490 [04:15] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :but yeah
#1491 [04:15] <nevercast> osx?
#1492 [04:15] <nevercast> ew ew EW
#1493 [04:15] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I agree
#1494 [04:15] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :EWWWW
#1495 [04:16] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yeah, after disabling eth1 and starting my downgraded minecraft...
#1496 [04:16] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :BLACKSCREEN
#1497 [04:16] <nevercast> Ha
#1498 [04:16] <AG_Scott> I think my laptop has eth1 mapped to wlan0.
#1499 [04:16] <nevercast> BSOD acronym still stands then
#1500 [04:17] <nevercast> AG_Scott, LOL WAT? :D
#1501 [04:17] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :True
#1502 [04:17] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :also wut
#1503 [04:17] <AG_Scott> broadcom drivers did it
#1504 [04:17] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :DEM BASTURS
#1505 [04:17] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :BASTURDS*
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#1507 [04:17] <nevercast> some people have some wack setups
#1508 [04:17] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp : I heard gothroach flooding
#1509 [04:17] <nevercast> seriously
#1510 [04:18] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :apparently linux minecraft won't work on macs
#1511 [04:18] <nevercast> I'm happy with my eth0 and my wlan0 with Monitor mode support
#1512 [04:18] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :(wtf)
#1513 [04:18] <nevercast> Ha
#1514 [04:18] <nevercast> Yeah I bet it's a mac problem
#1515 [04:18] <nevercast> Java support or smth
#1516 [04:18] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yeah
#1517 [04:19] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I tried running 1.2 minecraft I grabbed from my linux box @ home
#1518 [04:19] <nevercast> auto update ftw
#1519 [04:19] <nevercast> nomsayin
#1520 [04:21] <roblog> fuck. building the main city for my server from scratch is going to take forever.
#1521 [04:21] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :hmmh Is there cuboid mods for beta minecraft servers?
#1522 [04:22] <nevercast> I just wish Multiplayer was fixed
#1523 [04:22] <nevercast> I hate single player
#1524 [04:22] <nevercast> it's so lonely
#1525 [04:22] <nevercast> and single
#1526 [04:22] <nevercast> reminds me of my love life
#1527 [04:22] <nevercast> or lack there of
#1528 [04:22] <Raze> :(
#1529 [04:22] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Singleplayer is fun with max difficulty
#1530 [04:22] <nevercast> Heh
#1531 [04:22] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I just wish you could increase the amount of enemies
#1532 [04:22] <nevercast> Dude
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#1534 [04:23] <nevercast> Mobs == 5fps
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#1536 [04:23] <nevercast> you ain't see difficult until you've played on my celeron
#1537 [04:23] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I has a celeron 2
#1538 [04:23] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :and I tried to minecraft on it
#1539 [04:23] <nevercast> and?
#1540 [04:23] <nevercast> how'd it go lol.
#1541 [04:23] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :It resulted me yelling FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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#1543 [04:24] <nevercast> heh
#1544 [04:24] <nevercast> yeah well a celeron is what I play on
#1545 [04:24] <nevercast> several hours a day
#1546 [04:25] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :wat
#1547 [04:25] <roblog> i'm surprised mine doesn't play a lot smoother. dual core 2.17Ghz, 4GB RAM, 256MB Intel Mobile HD4500 + 1024MB Shared for Video. I have to play on fucking short distance to get a decent framerate.
#1548 [04:26] <nevercast> Ha
#1549 [04:26] <nevercast> Dual Core, Win
#1550 [04:26] <nevercast> 4gb ram, Win
#1551 [04:26] <nevercast> Intel Mobile? GTFO :D
#1552 [04:26] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I can play on 1080p max distance
#1553 [04:26] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :fps goes over 100
#1554 [04:26] <roblog> nevercast: laptop.
#1555 [04:26] <nevercast> Roblog, think of it this way.. You'd make a great server host :D
#1556 [04:26] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :i3 running on 4ghz
#1557 [04:27] <nevercast> roblog, what do you consider decent framerate?
#1558 [04:27] <Xerati> hexcore 64bit with 8gb ddr3 ram, 2gb hd ati card, running at 1920x1200, and i only get about 500fps :(
#1559 [04:28] <roblog> i only paid $300 for it two years ago. sale ad misprint at best buy. i was there to buy a TV, and picked up a sale ad and i was like "wait. whut? $900 reg. $300 sale. you save $200? someone failed at math. MINE!"
#1560 [04:28] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I wan't to triple my drawdistance
#1561 [04:28] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :that'd make me overclock my gpu too
#1562 [04:28] <nevercast> My Setup: 2.0Ghz Celeron, 1GB DDR1 RAM ( 333mhz ), 128MB NVidia 6600GT ( AGP / 400 Mhz ), VGA to CRT output.
#1563 [04:28] <nevercast> I'm happy with 25fps
#1564 [04:28] <nevercast> when I get it
#1565 [04:28] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :LUCKY BASTARD
#1566 [04:29] <roblog> i get 30fps on short distance.
#1567 [04:29] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :my Celeron II is 333mhz
#1568 [04:29] <nevercast> Lol wtf
#1569 [04:29] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yours is 2.0Ghz
#1570 [04:29] <nevercast> that ain't a fuckin' Celeron
#1571 [04:29] <Xerati> i wish i include increase max distance
#1572 [04:29] <nevercast> that's a 486
#1573 [04:29] <nevercast> toss that shit
#1574 [04:29] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :its on a IBM PC 300gl
#1575 [04:29] <nevercast> Lol
#1576 [04:29] <roblog> anything higher... pfffffffft. raep. 5fps.
#1577 [04:29] <nevercast> well Zeekill, I've had my Celeron over clocked to 2.8Ghz :D
#1578 [04:30] <nevercast> My cooling consists of a Factory 80mm CPU fan and..
#1579 [04:30] <nevercast> .. yeah that's it :D
#1580 [04:30] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :nice
#1581 [04:30] <nevercast> it ran for about 5 minutes before entire hardware failure :)
#1582 [04:30] <roblog> i really should swap systems. turn my laptop into the server and my server into my gaming rig.
#1583 [04:31] <Mikau> My Setups: 2.8ghz Phenom X6 (6 core processor), 4GB DDR3 RAM, GTX460
#1584 [04:31] <Mikau> :D
#1585 [04:31] <nevercast> I know what an X6 is lol.
#1586 [04:31] <Mikau> Scuba Steve doesn't
#1587 [04:31] <nevercast> GTX460? Oh you just scared of a little extra power consumption
#1588 [04:31] <Xerati> Mikau, that's similar to mine
#1589 [04:31] <Xerati> i have the x6
#1590 [04:31] <nevercast> Mikau, Black Edition or standward?
#1591 [04:31] <nevercast> *standard
#1592 [04:32] <Xerati> nevercast, lol, my video card requires 1000watt psu :(
#1593 [04:32] <Mikau> Well, my GTX is black, but I'm not racist.
#1594 [04:32] <Xerati> at least i know i'll never need to 'upgrade' my psu now
#1595 [04:32] <roblog> dual core sempron 2200, 2gb ram (max 8gb) and some integrated nvidia shit... all i'd have to do is drop a few bucks on a video card and some more ram.
#1596 [04:32] <nevercast> Mikau, I meant your Phenom...
#1597 [04:32] <Mikau> ;)
#1598 [04:32] <nevercast> Mikau, Black Edition.. Overclock able, Unlocked.. all that shit
#1599 [04:32] <Mikau> I can do "all that shit" but I see no point.
#1600 [04:33] <nevercast> :)
#1601 [04:33] <Mikau> I'd rather have a long lasting computer than that little bit of extra power
#1602 [04:33] <nevercast> Yeah does anyone know what I have to bring my motherboard voltage rails up to?
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#1604 [04:33] <Mikau> I have a 6 core processor, if I require that extra power, I think I should reconsider what I'm doing.
#1605 [04:33] <nevercast> to stabalise my Celeron at 2.8ghz?
#1606 [04:33] <roblog> my mobo supports a 3ghz black edition phenom. i should get one and OC.
#1607 [04:33] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :OC to 4ghz
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#1609 [04:34] <nevercast> over 9000 :D
#1610 [04:34] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :well
#1611 [04:34] <nevercast> Hertz
#1612 [04:34] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :thats better!
#1613 [04:34] <roblog> eh, OC a quad core to 4Ghz? not really worth it.
#1614 [04:34] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :okay
#1615 [04:34] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :8Ghz then
#1616 [04:34] * nevercast slaps Zeekill for being an idiot
#1616 [04:34] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :
ACTION slaps himself for being idiot

#1617 [04:34] <nevercast> <3
#1618 [04:34] <nevercast> :D
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#1620 [04:35] <roblog> when you think about it.. all i play is minecraft. the system would bottleneck due to other hardware not being up to snuff. remember: your system is only as good as it's shittiest part.
#1621 [04:35] <nevercast> roblog, not true
#1622 [04:35] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Exactly
#1623 [04:35] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :not true
#1624 [04:35] <nevercast> roblog, you can have a shitty case or a shitty soundcard... Minecraft couldn't give a shit :P
#1625 [04:36] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :or a shitty mem-card reader
#1626 [04:36] <nevercast> roblog, your statement was too ambigious it seems
#1627 [04:36] <nevercast> Nobody uses those anymore Zeekill
#1628 [04:36] <roblog> nevercast: i would. case and soundcard are important to me. it has to look and sound good.
#1629 [04:36] <nevercast> Zeekill, It's ZIP drives now.
#1630 [04:36] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :oh
#1631 [04:36] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I have one of these
#1632 [04:36] <nevercast> ae what?
#1633 [04:36] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ZIP drive
#1634 [04:36] <nevercast> you have a 5 inch floppy too don't you?
#1635 [04:36] <nevercast> TWSS
#1636 [04:37] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yea
#1637 [04:37] <roblog> okay, let me be a little more verbose: your system is only as good as it's shittiest performance determining part.
#1638 [04:37] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I moved 5inch floppy from my IBM PC to my new setup
#1639 [04:37] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :case can determine performance
#1640 [04:37] <nevercast> roblog, (Y)
#1641 [04:37] <nevercast> Zeekill, Like airflow?
#1642 [04:37] <nevercast> Zeekill, Cooling?
#1643 [04:37] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yeah
#1644 [04:37] <nevercast> Zeekill, Yeah!! My case has 4 sides :D
#1645 [04:37] <nevercast> Zeekill, and no fans
#1646 [04:37] <nevercast> Good luck with air flow
#1647 [04:38] <roblog> 32GB RAM? Nice.. but what fucking good is it if you have a 300watt PSU? severely limits your CPU and GPU options.
#1648 [04:38] <nevercast> roblog, But you could load an entire operating system and game and server into your Ram? Think how fast it'll be
#1649 [04:38] <toaster_brown> how does one control the size of the world being made?
#1650 [04:38] <nevercast> roblog, Oh fuck, I lost power..
#1651 [04:38] <roblog> 3Ghz 6 core CPU? Nice.. but what good is all that processing power if you only have 512MB RAM?
#1652 [04:38] <toaster_brown> or what doe sone call it, so I can google away ;)
#1653 [04:39] <nevercast> roblog, Sometimes it's not even hardware
#1654 [04:39] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :if you use windows you can easily has 1TB of ram
#1655 [04:39] <nevercast> WOO GO ME, I have 8Gigs of RAM
#1656 [04:39] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Readyboost
#1657 [04:39] <nevercast> .. and a 32bit operating system
#1658 [04:39] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :!TB
#1659 [04:39] <nevercast> woot
#1660 [04:39] <roblog> nevercast: ... and? PAE.
#1661 [04:39] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :WOO ME I HAS CELL PROCESSOR
#1662 [04:39] <nevercast> The fuck is PAE
#1663 [04:40] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :and 128mb memory on dat setup
#1664 [04:40] <nevercast> Zeekill, you lie
#1665 [04:40] <roblog> Physical Address Extension. It allows for extended addressing of memory in 32bit environments.
#1666 [04:40] <nevercast> hmm
#1667 [04:40] <Mikau> 4.6Ghz (8 CPUs) / 12GB RAM
#1668 [04:40] <nevercast> Like page file.. to ram?
#1669 [04:40] <nevercast> OH THAT'S HAX
#1670 [04:40] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :nevercast inb4 pics
#1671 [04:40] <roblog> a pae kernel means you can have up to 16GB of ram in 32bit.
#1672 [04:40] <Mikau> That's my server
#1673 [04:40] <Mikau> for Minecraft
#1674 [04:41] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :http://www.tvsnob.com/pictures/7573-ibmcell.jpg
#1675 [04:41] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :dat cell
#1676 [04:41] <nevercast> toaster_brown, LOL WTF?
#1677 [04:41] <nevercast> toaster_brown, Did you just ask how do you control the size of the world?
#1678 [04:41] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :http://www.ps3slimconsole.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/PS3-Slim-284x300.jpg
#1679 [04:41] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :dat case
#1680 [04:41] <nevercast> toaster_brown, Heres a hint.. If you want a big world.. explore
#1681 [04:42] <nevercast> toaster_brown, If you want a small one.. Don't fuckin' move :D
#1682 [04:42] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I don't lie
#1683 [04:42] <toaster_brown> no, I mean generate
#1684 [04:42] <roblog> pae is typically only enabled on server kernels though... it's from back when 32bit servers had assloads of RAM but your average PC was still maxing out under 2GB
#1685 [04:42] <toaster_brown> can you control the size of the generated world
#1686 [04:42] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Ripped the cell out from my ps3
#1687 [04:42] <nevercast> toaster_brown, The world isn't generated at the start
#1688 [04:42] <nevercast> toaster_brown, Only a couple bits here and there
#1689 [04:42] <toaster_brown> smaller world, less drain on limited resourced server
#1690 [04:42] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :almost free cell processor
#1691 [04:42] <nevercast> toaster_brown, It's created in real time
#1692 [04:42] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :...
#1693 [04:42] <toaster_brown> ah
#1694 [04:42] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :PROFIT
#1695 [04:42] <toaster_brown> ok
#1696 [04:42] <nevercast> toaster_brown, That's why you have the seed.
#1697 [04:42] <roblog> i think windoze XP even has a PAE setting somewhere.. but i can't be bothered to even google it because i don't care.
#1698 [04:42] <toaster_brown> I thought it created a limit and I could control taht variable
#1699 [04:42] <toaster_brown> the seed?
#1700 [04:43] <nevercast> toaster_brown, When someone goes to a chunk ( 16x16 block is a chunk ) that has not been explored before.. the server will create that chunk from a seed
#1701 [04:43] <nevercast> a seed is a term used in pseudo random algorithms
#1702 [04:43] <toaster_brown> ahh, ok, I understand
#1703 [04:43] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :32bit windows vista can be forced to use more than 4gb of memory
#1704 [04:43] <nevercast> that control the sequence of numbers
#1705 [04:43] <nevercast> a unique seed will always generate the same random pattern
#1706 [04:43] <toaster_brown> I was under the impression there was a limit from looking at generated maps
#1707 [04:43] <toaster_brown> some worlds are big, others small
#1708 [04:43] <roblog> how limited are we talking here, toaster_brown ? my server runs fine on a 512MB VPS.
#1709 [04:43] <toaster_brown> I didnt realize it continually grew
#1710 [04:43] <toaster_brown> cheers nevercast
#1711 [04:44] <nevercast> toaster_brown, Like I said.. Only grows if people explore
#1712 [04:44] <nevercast> toaster_brown, You could always fence the place off :D
#1713 [04:44] <toaster_brown> cheers nevercasthaha!
#1714 [04:44] <toaster_brown> hah
#1715 [04:44] <toaster_brown> I could create the virtual berlin wall
#1716 [04:44] <toaster_brown> grief proof it
#1717 [04:44] <nevercast> toaster_brown, Didn't someone destroy that like 50 or so years ago?
#1718 [04:44] <roblog> nevercast: yeah.. i've actually seen that. people cranking up bedrock walls up to the top.
#1719 [04:44] <toaster_brown> turn it into brena
#1720 [04:45] <toaster_brown> like 50 years ago?
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#1722 [04:45] <nevercast> roblog, What why? So people can't explore past it?
#1723 [04:45] <toaster_brown> late 80's
#1724 [04:45] <nevercast> toaster_brown, okay so more like 30 years
#1725 [04:45] <toaster_brown> ;)
#1726 [04:45] <roblog> nevercast: yeah. no clue why though.
#1727 [04:45] <nevercast> toaster_brown, dude I failed history
#1728 [04:45] <toaster_brown> You can't fail history, you had a shitty teacher
#1729 [04:45] <Mikau> nevercast, chunks are 32x32 now
#1730 [04:45] <nevercast> Mikau, really? love new formats :D
#1731 [04:45] <roblog> and btw nevercast fuck you. :) it was during my lifetime and i'm not even 30 yet.
#1732 [04:46] <roblog> you made me feel old.
#1733 [04:46] <nevercast> toaster_brown, I had my laptop in History
#1734 [04:46] <nevercast> toaster_brown, My laptop had linux
#1735 [04:46] <nevercast> toaster_brown, My class had an ethernet port
#1736 [04:46] * roblog is in the final year of being in his 20s.
#1736 [04:46] <nevercast> toaster_brown, Now thing... stuck in a boring history class with a linux laptop and connection to the network
#1737 [04:46] * Mikau is 86
#1737 [04:46] <nevercast> would would I be doing?
#1738 [04:46] <nevercast> lol.
#1739 [04:46] <nevercast> Well running wireshark and ettercap of course
#1740 [04:46] <nevercast> fuck history
#1741 [04:46] <nevercast> hacking is the FUTURE
#1742 [04:46] <Mikau> back in my day, we didn't have fancy computers, we had to play minecraft IRL
#1743 [04:46] <Mikau> and the spiders were twice as big!
#1744 [04:46] <toaster_brown> that's the thing though, history isn't boring if it's taught right. Im guessing you didnt have a school trip to europe?
#1745 [04:47] <toaster_brown> hands on history.. History is wher eits at.
#1746 [04:47] <toaster_brown> *where its at
#1747 [04:47] <RecoJohnson> Can someone join my MC server and help me make my pulser work (redstone) ?
#1748 [04:47] <toaster_brown> imo
#1749 [04:47] <nevercast> toaster_brown, Dude we didn't have a single trip outside that stuffy second story classroom
#1750 [04:47] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Mikau, and diamonds were twice as rare
#1751 [04:47] <toaster_brown> see, that's a shame
#1752 [04:47] <Mikau> creepers were EXACTLY the same.
#1753 [04:47] <Mikau> -_-
#1754 [04:47] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :no
#1755 [04:47] <toaster_brown> if you fall in love with history, you fall in love with travel
#1756 [04:47] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :creepers were twice as small
#1757 [04:47] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :but made twice as big explosions
#1758 [04:47] <toaster_brown> you explore more. It's a gateway class
#1759 [04:48] <toaster_brown> I fell in love with history after HS
#1760 [04:48] <toaster_brown> my teacher sucked
#1761 [04:48] <toaster_brown> fecking terrible
#1762 [04:48] <nevercast> toaster_brown, I've heard people say.. but yeah.. year 11, 11th grade, history.. was boring as hell.
#1763 [04:49] <toaster_brown> I understand.
#1764 [04:49] <toaster_brown> All we learned was how we didn't fuck up the indians in Quebec
#1765 [04:49] <toaster_brown> propaganda
#1766 [04:49] <toaster_brown> let me guess, you were told Christopher Columbus 'discovered' America?
#1767 [04:49] <roblog> failing at typing?
#1768 [04:49] <roblog> for serious though... gotta finish setting up my faction plugin and NPC shop so people can sell crap they mine for in-game currency to be able to start their own town (faction) recruit people, build a city, and wage war against other cities for more land.
#1769 [04:50] <toaster_brown> *pride
#1770 [04:50] <RecoJohnson> Can someone join my MC server and help me make my pulser work (redstone) ?
#1771 [04:50] <toaster_brown> anyhow, I digress
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#1773 [04:50] <nevercast> toaster_brown, LOL ahh, where do you live?
#1774 [04:50] <toaster_brown> I'm looking for a wrapper to help stem a lag issue I'm having with my server. I've read it could help
#1775 [04:50] <toaster_brown> nevercast, canada
#1776 [04:50] <nevercast> haha
#1777 [04:50] <nevercast> yeah.. we don't get propaganda down here
#1778 [04:50] <nevercast> just earthquakes
#1779 [04:51] <toaster_brown> where you at nevercast?
#1780 [04:51] <nevercast> Christchurch mate.
#1781 [04:51] <nevercast> New Zealand.
#1782 [04:51] <roblog> Mikau: btw.. lies. creepers had vans and candy.
#1783 [04:51] <toaster_brown> shit son, how's everyone doing over in NZ, with the earthquake and all
#1784 [04:51] <nevercast> Well Canterbury.. few minutes out of Christchurch. afaik they don't have internet.. or water... or buildings.. or people.. Heh
#1785 [04:51] <nevercast> toaster_brown, yeah it's pretty messed up
#1786 [04:52] <toaster_brown> canada, New Zealand and Scotland all share something in common
#1787 [04:52] <toaster_brown> we all live in the shadow of our neighbour
#1788 [04:52] <toaster_brown> I'm sorry to hear nevercast, my best to your countrymen
#1789 [04:52] <nevercast> Thanks toaster_brown :)
#1790 [04:52] <toaster_brown> do you run zmod by chance nevercast?
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#1792 [04:53] <toaster_brown> or for that matter Mincraft-Overviewer?
#1793 [04:53] <nevercast> toaster_brown, I'm gonna guess by the channel we're in.. that it's a minecraft mod.
#1794 [04:53] <nevercast> no I don't
#1795 [04:53] <toaster_brown> haha! good guess
#1796 [04:53] <toaster_brown> indeed
#1797 [04:53] <toaster_brown> ah ok.
#1798 [04:53] <toaster_brown> I'm having some difficulty with both, searching for clues
#1799 [04:53] <nevercast> ahh
#1800 [04:53] <nevercast> yeah
#1801 [04:54] <nevercast> I don't run any mods
#1802 [04:54] <nevercast> I have enough trouble getting the game to work without them
#1803 [04:54] <toaster_brown> haha! I hear ya
#1804 [04:54] <toaster_brown> I've got some lag issues and it's a pisser
#1805 [04:54] <toaster_brown> 3 people on my little humble server and it's mayhem
#1806 [04:54] <toaster_brown> trying to find a way to stem that
#1807 [04:55] <nevercast> Yeah I bet if you twisted the letters enough
#1808 [04:55] <nevercast> you could write LAG with JAVA
#1809 [04:55] <nevercast> Either way, they are kinda paired attributes
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#1811 [04:55] <toaster_brown> trying to find a way to stem thathaha
#1812 [04:55] <toaster_brown> haha
#1813 [04:56] <toaster_brown> it's gotten a little better since alpha
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#1815 [04:56] <toaster_brown> my mbp core2 was lagging along just with the client at first
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#1817 [04:57] <RemixMiner> Will try #bukkit
#1818 [04:57] <toaster_brown> Now I find myself hunting down Arch alternatives to dependencies half the day on these feckin mods
#1819 [04:58] <toaster_brown> Is there a general site with all them mods availble asides the minecraft forums.. it's a fecking mess
#1820 [04:58] <Raze> Am I the only person that still can't get onto mc?
#1821 [04:59] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :blame notch
#1822 [04:59] <Raze> Will do
#1823 [04:59] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :for compiling with wrong version of java
#1824 [05:00] <Raze> He used 6 instead of 5 or something?
#1825 [05:00] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yeah
#1826 [05:00] <Raze> :/
#1827 [05:00] <Raze> Damn
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#1830 [05:11] <Raze> Am I lagging?
#1831 [05:12] <Raze> Or is no one speaking
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#1833 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#1834 [05:13] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.611 seconds.
#1835 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Just nobody's talking
#1836 [05:13] <Raze> Ok
#1837 [05:13] <Raze> I really wish I could fix my problem
#1838 [05:13] <Raze> :/
#1839 [05:14] <matthatesspam> Are there still issues going on with logins?
#1840 [05:14] <Raze> Not login
#1841 [05:14] <Raze> Minecraft in general
#1842 [05:14] <Raze> It's totally screwed up for me
#1843 [05:14] <matthatesspam> I can't even log in and download the necessary files.
#1844 [05:15] <Raze> Well
#1845 [05:15] <Raze> I'd say in a couple of days it will be up and running fine again
#1846 [05:15] <matthatesspam> Oh, well. That's why it's beta, I suppose. :)
#1847 [05:15] <matthatesspam> Thanks for the info!
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#1849 [05:17] <Raze> This is so frustrating
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#1851 [05:18] <matthatesspam> It is. I have been busy with schoolwork, so I haven't played in about a month. :/
#1852 [05:18] <Raze> I hadn't played sense like August
#1853 [05:18] <Raze> Since*
#1854 [05:19] <matthatesspam> Wow.
#1855 [05:19] <Raze> Yeah
#1856 [05:19] <matthatesspam> So, you missed out on the October fiesta.
#1857 [05:19] <Raze> I played
#1858 [05:19] <Raze> Yup
#1859 [05:19] <Raze> I played yesterday
#1860 [05:20] <Raze> Then I got disconnected from my server
#1861 [05:20] <Raze> And I couldn't log back into it
#1862 [05:20] <Raze> So I decided to put in some texture packs and such
#1863 [05:20] <Raze> Then it crashed
#1864 [05:20] <Raze> And gave me an error report
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#1866 [05:20] <Raze> Now I can't even get to the single player/multiplayer screen
#1867 [05:21] <Xerati> update java
#1868 [05:21] <Sorcerer> Any op awake ?
#1869 [05:21] <Mikau> I'm quite OP
#1870 [05:21] <Mikau> if by OP you mean OVER POWERED
#1871 [05:21] * Mikau flexes
#1871 [05:21] <Raze> I did update Java
#1872 [05:21] <Xerati> with the recent update, it's breaking on older java's
#1873 [05:21] <Xerati> hrm
#1874 [05:21] <Xerati> update your computer
#1875 [05:21] <Raze> ?
#1876 [05:21] <Xerati> get a new pc :P
#1877 [05:21] <Xerati> lol
#1878 [05:21] <Raze> No way
#1879 [05:22] <Raze> This one is pretty new anyway
#1880 [05:22] <Raze> And I'm only 13 so....
#1881 [05:22] <Raze> Yeah
#1882 [05:22] <Xerati> ok
#1883 [05:22] <Xerati> what's the error report say
#1884 [05:23] <Raze> Hold on
#1885 [05:23] <Raze> -- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 --------
#1886 [05:24] <Raze> Generated 22/02/11 15:15
#1887 [05:24] <Raze> Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.2_02
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#1889 [05:24] <Raze> OS: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1
#1890 [05:24] <Raze> Java: 1.6.0_14, Sun Microsystems Inc.
#1891 [05:24] <Mikau> uh oh
#1892 [05:24] <Raze> VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc.
#1893 [05:24] <Raze> LWJGL: 2.4.2
#1894 [05:24] <Raze> OpenGL: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 version 2.1.8784, ATI Technologies Inc.
#1895 [05:24] <Raze> java.nio.BufferOverflowException
#1896 [05:24] <Raze> at java.nio.DirectByteBuffer.put(Unknown Source)
#1897 [05:24] <Raze> at java.nio.ByteBuffer.put(Unknown Source)
#1898 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> oh god
#1899 [05:24] <Raze> at gs.a(SourceFile:148)
#1900 [05:24] <Raze> at gs.a(SourceFile:62)
#1901 [05:24] <Raze> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.i(SourceFile:1086)
#1902 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> please not here
#1903 [05:24] <Raze> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:642)
#1904 [05:24] <Raze> at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
#1905 [05:24] <Raze> --- END ERROR REPORT e2fa6cd0 ----------
#1906 [05:24] <Raze> ?
#1907 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> If you need to do that again, pastebin.com it
#1908 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Don't flood the channel here
#1909 [05:24] <Raze> Sorry
#1910 [05:24] * Xerati facepalms
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#1911 [05:25] <Xerati> hmm
#1912 [05:25] <Xerati> i'd say reinstall minecraft
#1913 [05:25] <Xerati> 1.2_02 is a bit old?
#1914 [05:25] <Xerati> for today
#1915 [05:25] <Xerati> are you on beta 1.3 or no?
#1916 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, was the last version
#1917 [05:26] <Raze> I did reinstall it
#1918 [05:26] <Xerati> delete your bin folder in .minecraft, and delete your minecraft.exe and get the new launcher
#1919 [05:26] <Xerati> i believe doing those should fix your issue
#1920 [05:26] <Raze> I deleted the bin
#1921 [05:26] <Raze> Ok
#1922 [05:26] <Xerati> orly <_<
#1923 [05:26] <Raze> Thank you
#1924 [05:26] <Xerati> when?
#1925 [05:26] <Raze> Last night
#1926 [05:26] * Xerati facepalms
#1926 [05:26] <Raze> Not the .exe file though
#1927 [05:26] <Xerati> ok
#1928 [05:26] <Xerati> try it
#1929 [05:28] <Raze> Nope
#1930 [05:28] <Raze> Still doesn't work
#1931 [05:28] <Xerati> same error?
#1932 [05:29] <Raze> It doesn't even give the error report anymore
#1933 [05:29] <Raze> I t just closes down
#1934 [05:29] <Raze> At the Mojang logo
#1935 [05:29] <Xerati> when you deleted bin last night, how long ago was that exactly?
#1936 [05:29] <Xerati> because it's still last night for me <_< lol
#1937 [05:29] <Raze> Well
#1938 [05:30] <Raze> I tried deleting the bin multiple times
#1939 [05:30] <Raze> I tried reinstalling it
#1940 [05:30] <Raze> A lot
#1941 [05:30] <Xerati> when
#1942 [05:30] <Raze> ¬_¬
#1943 [05:30] <Raze> Last night
#1944 [05:30] <Raze> And
#1945 [05:30] <Xerati> how many hours ago :P
#1946 [05:30] <Raze> Hmmm
#1947 [05:30] <Raze> I'd say about 12
#1948 [05:30] <Raze> 13?
#1949 [05:31] <Mikau> do it NOW
#1950 [05:31] <Xerati> i can't recall when it was, but there was a debug version released first, on accident, and you may need to re-update
#1951 [05:31] <Xerati> i'd recommend trying it again
#1952 [05:31] <Raze> Righto
#1953 [05:31] <nevercast> Xerati, Ya know people should really check the Mojang Staff Twitters
#1954 [05:31] <Xerati> lol
#1955 [05:32] <nevercast> Xerati, So many questions here.. would be ansewered if they just read those
#1956 [05:32] <Xerati> not like there's a link or anything right on the new launcher
#1957 [05:32] <Raze> I have the new launcher
#1958 [05:32] <nevercast> Xerati, Oh Shi- I think there is :P
#1959 [05:32] <Xerati> i know
#1960 [05:32] <Xerati> ;P
#1961 [05:32] <Raze> And I did check the twitter :(
#1962 [05:33] <Xerati> :(
#1963 [05:33] <Raze> Yeah it just does the same thing all over again
#1964 [05:33] <nevercast> Xerati, That's my point.. I mean 20 people join today.. is minecraft down? I can still go to the website?.. if they just checked Tobias' twitter.. he said the login server was down lol.
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#1966 [05:33] <Mikau> Did you delete the bin folder, Raze?
#1967 [05:33] <Raze> Yes
#1968 [05:33] <Xerati> the java/bin folder
#1969 [05:33] <Mikau> Delete the whole .minecraft folder, except for saves
#1970 [05:33] * Xerati chuckles
#1970 [05:34] <Xerati> yeah, that's where we're at
#1971 [05:34] <Mikau> Also, when was the last time you rebooted your computer?
#1972 [05:34] <Xerati> beyond this, i'd say you may be looking at a full uninstall/reinstall of java
#1973 [05:34] <Xerati> using a cleaner
#1974 [05:34] <Xerati> it's loading the launcher fine, and getting to loading minecraft by the time it dies
#1975 [05:34] <Xerati> which means it's definitely java/minecraft specific
#1976 [05:34] <Xerati> or some fail driver problems >_>
#1977 [05:34] <Mikau> (5:34:07 AM) Mikau: Also, when was the last time you rebooted your computer?
#1978 [05:35] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :can minecraft still do multiplayer on macs?
#1979 [05:35] <nevercast> Adobe Air seems smooth.. hmm
#1980 [05:35] <Raze> I Omg
#1981 [05:36] <Raze> Thank you guys
#1982 [05:36] <Raze> So much
#1983 [05:36] <Raze> :'(
#1984 [05:36] <Mikau> I bet i was the .minecraft folder
#1985 [05:36] <Raze> This is quite emotional...
#1986 [05:36] <CoLoN> anyone know how to create an empty cart detection system
#1987 [05:36] <Xerati> yes
#1988 [05:36] <nevercast> Zeekill, Question is... Can Minecraft still do multiplayer? ( end of sentence )
#1989 [05:36] <CoLoN> Xerati can u help me?
#1990 [05:37] <Xerati> booster along side a stone pressure pad - if it's not depressed, the cart returns back, but if it is depressed, the track directs the player out the normal way
#1991 [05:37] <Xerati> is it on smp?
#1992 [05:37] <CoLoN> yes
#1993 [05:37] <Xerati> ok
#1994 [05:37] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :nevercast, why not?
#1995 [05:37] <CoLoN> 97.81.101.85
#1996 [05:37] <CoLoN> 25565 if u need port
#1997 [05:38] <nevercast> Zeekill, because in 1.3, they fucked it up :D
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#1999 [05:38] <Raze> Yeah ok
#2000 [05:38] <Raze> I know what the problem is now
#2001 [05:38] <Raze> It's one of the texture packs
#2002 [05:39] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :damn mojang
#2003 [05:39] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :breaking my minecrafts
#2004 [05:41] <Raze> How do you guys know what to do?
#2005 [05:41] <Raze> I mean someone states a problem and you guys know how to fix it
#2006 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> We've been here a while.
#2007 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> Over time, the same problem starts appearing over and over.
#2008 [05:41] <CoLoN> GreyVulpine do u sleep o.O
#2009 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> Same solution
#2010 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> Sleep?
#2011 [05:41] <Raze> I see
#2012 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> .. What's that?
#2013 [05:42] <CoLoN> lol
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#2016 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, there's a reason why dopeghoti finally got around to making a FAQ bot for this channel.
#2017 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> And we thank him for it. Has answers to the most common problems, like reinstalling .minecraft
#2018 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#2019 [05:46] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2020 [05:46] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2021 [05:47] <Raze> That's one smart bot
#2022 [05:47] <Raze> I only used to be able to do basic bots
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#2024 [05:47] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :?? nix/reinst
#2025 [05:48] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp ::/
#2026 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2027 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> ?? linux/reinst
#2028 [05:48] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2029 [05:48] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#2030 [05:48] <nawee> anyone knows why my game chrashes when i click singelplayer
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#2032 [05:48] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :because notch failcompiled it
#2033 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> nawee - What operating system?
#2034 [05:48] <nawee> running it on a mac
#2035 [05:48] * GreyVulpine nods
#2035 [05:49] <nawee> mac os X version 10.5.8
#2036 [05:49] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :nawee
#2037 [05:49] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :update java
#2038 [05:49] <nawee> okey i try that
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#2042 [05:57] <clank714> so who likes 1.3
#2043 [05:58] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :People who can play it, I guess
#2044 [05:58] <clank714> mojang's new logo=shit
#2045 [05:59] <clank714> I'm just waitin for mods then I'll start playin more
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#2047 [05:59] <nawee> still not working updated java to version 8 taht was the lates i could find for my mac
#2048 [06:01] <nawee> anyone there that could help me?
#2049 [06:03] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :nawee
#2050 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> nawee - I'd wait for an update to minecraft. It's not just you experiencing a problem with minecraft on a mac
#2051 [06:03] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :try using apples update software
#2052 [06:03] <nawee> okey?
#2053 [06:04] <nawee> why si ti allways mac taht gets the problems
#2054 [06:06] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :because apple
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#2056 [06:10] <Mikau> That clank714 person is a pottymouth
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#2058 [06:11] <Zeekill> 470:1f06:687::2 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Hmmh, V for vendetta is funny
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#2062 [06:21] <MertenNor> is there a thread with good world numbers ?
#2063 [06:22] <Nordas> i need help
#2064 [06:22] <Nordas> my game keeps closing
#2065 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> MertenNor - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=189706
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#2067 [06:24] <nawee> nordas what are u runnig it on?
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#2069 [06:27] <Nordas> what do you mean?
#2070 [06:28] <nawee> like a mac or PC ....
#2071 [06:30] <Nordas> pc
#2072 [06:30] <nawee> okey
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#2074 [06:31] <fogWraith> Holy shit, chunk loading is slow in 1.3 ;/
#2075 [06:32] <`\> Are they using the McRegion system, or their own chunk system?
#2076 [06:33] <fogWraith> McRegion?
#2077 [06:33] <fogWraith> Slow both on vanilla and with bukkit
#2078 [06:34] <fogWraith> Say you teleport to a player on vanilla, the chunks are progressively loaded in a sheity manner
#2079 [06:34] <fogWraith> Either re-log or wait for the chunks to come get you and put you back on your feet ;P
#2080 [06:35] <`\> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=120160
#2081 [06:35] <`\> They'd already incorporated FastRender, made by the same person, which is why I was wondering if they'd also integrated McRegion.
#2082 [06:37] <fogWraith> Mmm..
#2083 [06:38] <fogWraith> It does seem like they are
#2084 [06:38] <fogWraith> have*
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#2086 [06:53] <ItsCriminal> clients starts when im ingame client is closing down
#2087 [06:54] <clank714> Mikau: Umm why am I a potty mouth.
#2088 [06:55] <clank714> oh they use McRegion
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#2090 [06:55] <clank714> if you set your seed to 6 and someone else does you get the same world
#2091 [06:56] <Reyouka> annnddd the auth server is having a heartattack again
#2092 [06:56] <ItsCriminal> i find it ab bit overdriven -.-
#2093 [06:56] <ItsCriminal> for what you actually pay ^^
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#2099 [07:22] <nevercast> Hey xales
#2100 [07:22] <nevercast> Yo GreyVulpine
#2101 [07:23] <BarryCarlyon> :-(
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#2103 [07:25] <nevercast> Hey BarryCarlyon :D
#2104 [07:25] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#2105 [07:25] <nevercast> Hey, you were here yesterday right BarryCarlyon ? :)
#2106 [07:25] <BarryCarlyon> Hey nevercast!
#2107 [07:25] <BarryCarlyon> I was.
#2108 [07:25] <nevercast> when mr_flea was here?
#2109 [07:25] <BarryCarlyon> I was spouting new changes out.
#2110 [07:25] <nevercast> Asking for Minecraft help?
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#2112 [07:25] <BarryCarlyon> Probably might of missed it.
#2113 [07:25] <Trizze> My Minecraft can't connect to minecraft.net :O What should I do?
#2114 [07:25] <nevercast> Oh.. I was going to ask.. we were nice to him right?
#2115 [07:25] <BarryCarlyon> I don't recal helping a mr_flea.
#2116 [07:25] <nevercast> Trizze, wait patiently :)
#2117 [07:25] <BarryCarlyon> I would of been :-D
#2118 [07:25] <Trizze> I have..
#2119 [07:26] <Trizze> I've been waiting for 3 hours now :(
#2120 [07:26] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon, well I hope we were...
#2121 [07:26] <BarryCarlyon> On the note of minecraft fail connect, my new launcher never has, but the old one has perfectly.
#2122 [07:26] <Trizze> Is Notch working on it?
#2123 [07:26] <nevercast> Trizze, I think it's Tobias that's working on it
#2124 [07:26] <BarryCarlyon> Anywho I must get back to web developing.
#2125 [07:26] <BarryCarlyon> Be back later.
#2126 [07:26] <nevercast> Trizze, Can I suggest you follow http://twitter.com/NvrCast/minecraft
#2127 [07:26] <BarryCarlyon> We are always nice nevercast
#2128 [07:27] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon, Good.. because he's the esper.net owner :P
#2129 [07:27] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon, found out while reading the damn MOTD
#2130 [07:27] <nevercast> was like.. SHIT BRICKS
#2131 [07:27] <nevercast> I hope I was nice ^_^
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#2133 [07:27] <BarryCarlyon> !
#2134 [07:27] <nevercast> Yah!
#2135 [07:28] * BarryCarlyon follows nevercast on twitter.
#2135 [07:28] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon, Me or my public group?
#2136 [07:28] <Okajin> Hi, in the case I'm having a java exception when I'm on the "browser" version, is there any solution? My Java is broken?
#2137 [07:28] <nevercast> Okajin, Well what's the exception?
#2138 [07:28] <BarryCarlyon> nevercast: both
#2139 [07:28] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon, Woo I feel loved :P
#2140 [07:29] <Okajin> I pm you the error to avoid flooding here
#2141 [07:30] <nevercast> Okajin, That's no better to be honest. Can you please use pastebin.com
#2142 [07:30] * Fuzzmz|a [Fuzzmz|a@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2143 [07:30] <Okajin> yep ^^
#2144 [07:30] <nevercast> Thank you.
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#2148 [07:32] <BigBioDaddy> why is minecraft down=?
#2149 [07:32] <Okajin> http://pastebin.com/efkGnzT8
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#2151 [07:33] <Hypertypical> Hello?
#2152 [07:33] <BigBioDaddy> bu
#2153 [07:33] <Hypertypical> Can anybody hear me? :/
#2154 [07:33] <Okajin> ?
#2155 [07:33] <nevercast> I can
#2156 [07:33] <Okajin> yep
#2157 [07:33] <BigBioDaddy> yeah
#2158 [07:33] <nevercast> Hi people.
#2159 [07:33] <Hypertypical> I purchased minecraft yesterday
#2160 [07:33] <nevercast> Okay
#2161 [07:33] <Hypertypical> and it worked fine
#2162 [07:33] <Hypertypical> but this morning
#2163 [07:33] <nevercast> yes
#2164 [07:33] <nevercast> Was this before or after the 1.3 update?
#2165 [07:33] <Hypertypical> i try to log in on the program
#2166 [07:34] <Hypertypical> and it keep saying "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2167 [07:34] <nevercast> Yes
#2168 [07:34] <BigBioDaddy> but the minecraft.net website is down -> i cant download the newest version
#2169 [07:34] <Hypertypical> :(
#2170 [07:34] <nevercast> The login server is down.
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#2172 [07:34] <Hypertypical> ah
#2173 [07:34] <nevercast> BigBioDaddy, the website is down too?
#2174 [07:34] <raisin> can somewone help me
#2175 [07:34] <nevercast> !isdown minecraft.net
#2176 [07:34] <GreyBot> nevercast: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2177 [07:34] <Hypertypical> the website isnt down
#2178 [07:34] <nevercast> Website is up
#2179 [07:34] <BigBioDaddy> no for log in
#2180 [07:34] <Hypertypical> btw
#2181 [07:34] <nevercast> Yes, the login server is down
#2182 [07:34] <Hypertypical> When I see go to profile
#2183 [07:34] <Hypertypical> on the website
#2184 [07:34] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2185 [07:34] <nevercast> Yes?
#2186 [07:34] <raisin> I just made a server but when i join i just keep falling and i see flashes of a world sometime
#2187 [07:35] <Hypertypical> and try to change my skin, there is no big box with my person in it :/
#2188 [07:35] <nevercast> raisin, Welcome to 1.3.. it's bug filled
#2189 [07:35] <nevercast> raisin, it's called a void.. where the map hasn't loaded.
#2190 [07:35] <raisin> but i just made a server
#2191 [07:35] <raisin> but it did ?
#2192 [07:35] <nevercast> Hypertypical, Yeah the online preview of your skin is broken on the website
#2193 [07:35] <raisin> it said done on my server thingi
#2194 [07:35] <fogWraith> Wait for the chunks to load
#2195 [07:35] <nevercast> Hypertypical, But your skin HAS worked
#2196 [07:35] <nevercast> Hypertypical, You only see it in game though
#2197 [07:36] <Hypertypical> Surely when creating a server it does not matter whether minecraft.net's login server is down
#2198 [07:36] <nevercast> fogWraith, Hey :D
#2199 [07:36] <raisin> what should i do now ?
#2200 [07:36] <Hypertypical> or do you have to be connected to minecraft.net to play multiplayer??
#2201 [07:36] <raisin> i was teh only one in the server
#2202 [07:36] <fogWraith> raisin, wait for the chunks to load
#2203 [07:36] <fogWraith> Hey nevercast ;)
#2204 [07:36] <raisin> fogWraith how ?
#2205 [07:36] <nevercast> Hypertypical, The servers use minecraft.net to authenticate users
#2206 [07:36] <nevercast> Hypertypical, Prevents hackers
#2207 [07:36] <fogWraith> raisin, hang in the emptyness and wait
#2208 [07:36] <Hypertypical> Ah
#2209 [07:36] <raisin> ooh ok
#2210 [07:36] <nevercast> Hypertypical, It's a very clever approach.. of course until it breaks
#2211 [07:37] <raisin> oooh fog it worked lol :D
#2212 [07:37] <Okajin> nevercast: First time I used pastebin, is that ok? :)
#2213 [07:37] <raisin> but can i do commands already or do i need to add thath ?
#2214 [07:37] <nevercast> raindog, Patience is a virtue
#2215 [07:37] <Hypertypical> Does anybody know what is wrong with the server??
#2216 [07:38] <nevercast> Woah okay.. uhh.. alcohol hit me quick.. Okajin can you repaste link.. I can't see it
#2217 [07:38] <fogWraith> raisin, op yourself through the console
#2218 [07:38] <fogWraith> ./op username
#2219 [07:38] <nevercast> Hypertypical, Which server? login?
#2220 [07:38] <Okajin> nevercast: http://pastebin.com/efkGnzT8
#2221 [07:38] <nevercast> fogWraith, // double slash for the winning
#2222 [07:38] <Hypertypical> @nevercast; yeah
#2223 [07:38] <nevercast> /me likes to double slash, fogWraith
#2224 [07:38] <fogWraith> I refuse the doubleslashing!
#2225 [07:38] <nevercast> lol.. dots confusing newbs
#2226 [07:38] <raisin> ooh ok
#2227 [07:38] <fogWraith> Nah it don't ;P
#2228 [07:39] <nevercast> Hypertypical, well I'll have a look
#2229 [07:39] <nevercast> one sec
#2230 [07:39] <raisin> not working
#2231 [07:39] <Hypertypical> what is ./op? original poster??
#2232 [07:39] <raisin> or do i need to add it outside the game ?
#2233 [07:39] <Hypertypical> or is it something else on mIRC
#2234 [07:39] <Hypertypical> First time using mIRC, so I'm not sure if anyone is a /b/tard...
#2235 [07:39] <fogWraith> Within the server console, raisin
#2236 [07:39] <fogWraith> Type /op yournamehere
#2237 [07:40] <nevercast> Hypertypical, This is Minecraft, not Random.
#2238 [07:40] <raisin> so thaths with server outside the game
#2239 [07:40] <raisin> the notepad thingi ?
#2240 [07:40] <fogWraith> You can add your name to ops.txt too
#2241 [07:40] <nevercast> Hypertypical, op means operator
#2242 [07:40] <raisin> i did thath now
#2243 [07:40] <nevercast> Hypertypical, for the record, mIRC is the client.. the network is just irc..
#2244 [07:40] <fogWraith> Restart the server then
#2245 [07:40] <fogWraith> Then go back ingame, type /help
#2246 [07:40] <fogWraith> See all the wonderful commands
#2247 [07:40] <Hypertypical> I know nevercast
#2248 [07:40] <raisin> ok
#2249 [07:41] <Hypertypical> This is my first time using mIRC though
#2250 [07:41] <nevercast> Hypertypical, Just correcting your terms so you don't look like a flame material :)
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#2252 [07:41] <nevercast> fogWraith, We should have this channel as +m.. and all new people must submit a problem ticket
#2253 [07:41] <nevercast> fogWraith, with a description of their problem
#2254 [07:41] <nanicoar> Oh... Shit.
#2255 [07:42] <nevercast> fogWraith, Would allow for tracking and stuff
#2256 [07:42] <Hypertypical> I'm gonna play offline then guys, cya :)
#2257 [07:42] <nanicoar> Can't auth again.
#2258 [07:42] <raisin> fogWraith how can i use /fly cuz im stuck in a cave at spawn where i cant build
#2259 [07:42] <nevercast> Hypertypical, cya
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#2261 [07:42] <fogWraith> But they have that, nevercast, mojang have a new support platform :P
#2262 [07:42] <nevercast> nanicoar, yes, it's already been announced that the login server is down.. again
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#2264 [07:42] <fogWraith> raisin, only with client mods
#2265 [07:42] <Xjet> wtf : this morning, i was able to login, and now no ? ...
#2266 [07:42] <fogWraith> And if the server accepts it
#2267 [07:42] <izzd> hi, my new launcher can't connect, been trying since yesterday?
#2268 [07:42] <nevercast> XJet, if you read about..
#2269 [07:42] <raisin> how should i get out of the cave then ?
#2270 [07:42] <nevercast> izzd, If you also read above
#2271 [07:42] <nevercast> *above
#2272 [07:42] <nevercast> you'll see
#2273 [07:42] <nevercast> NO one can login
#2274 [07:42] <nevercast> it's called a down server
#2275 [07:42] <nevercast> :)
#2276 [07:42] <fogWraith> raisin, build and destroy upwards ;)
#2277 [07:43] <izzd> k
#2278 [07:43] <raisin> cant it spawns again tehre
#2279 [07:43] <raisin> cuz im in spawn
#2280 [07:43] <nevercast> HAHAH
#2281 [07:43] <fogWraith> Oh yeah, that's right
#2282 [07:43] <nevercast> oh raisin, you fucked
#2283 [07:43] <fogWraith> Remove your old world :P
#2284 [07:43] <raisin> :D
#2285 [07:43] <nevercast> That's so funny :D
#2286 [07:43] <Abu_Musaab> hey guys
#2287 [07:43] <izzd> it's never worked since yesterday but the old launcher worked ok
#2288 [07:43] <nevercast> Dude that made me Uber LOLz.. which is not good at 2am
#2289 [07:43] <Abu_Musaab> quick question...if i totally remove minecraft from my pc
#2290 [07:43] <Abu_Musaab> then relaunch
#2291 [07:44] <Abu_Musaab> i won't lose anything
#2292 [07:44] <Abu_Musaab> except any silly mods
#2293 [07:44] <nevercast> izzd, I don't think it's launcher dependent.. it's just bugs
#2294 [07:44] <Abu_Musaab> right?
#2295 [07:44] <Xjet> abu : wrong
#2296 [07:44] <nevercast> Abu_Musaab, ahh.. you'll lose maps
#2297 [07:44] <izzd> bugs with?
#2298 [07:44] <raisin> note to myself, dont fall in caves at the spawn
#2299 [07:44] <Abu_Musaab> i lost my maps anyway
#2300 [07:44] <Xjet> if u delete your save wolder : no world will appeard nexte time
#2301 [07:44] <nevercast> Abu_Musaab, Oh in that case.. delete it all :D
#2302 [07:44] <nanicoar> Terriffic. They have even neutered the only known fix; using the old launcher. -_-
#2303 [07:44] <Xjet> folder*
#2304 [07:44] <Abu_Musaab> nevercast :)
#2305 [07:44] <izzd> old launcher connects no problem
#2306 [07:44] <nevercast> izzd, really?
#2307 [07:45] <izzd> yes just tried
#2308 [07:45] <nevercast> izzd, in that case I'll hit them up about that
#2309 [07:45] <nevercast> fogWraith, How do I email Mojang staff
#2310 [07:45] <nevercast> and bitch about this?
#2311 [07:45] <nanicoar> izzd: Hm, maybe I used the alpha... I'll try again.
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#2313 [07:45] <Xjet> hmm, so anyone have the ling to the old launcher ?
#2314 [07:45] <sim642> Why my minecraft didn't update itself to 1.3? I even got the new launcher and tried forcing the update, but it still just loads the 1.2 version.
#2315 [07:45] <fogWraith> nevercast, don't!
#2316 [07:45] <izzd> thanks, but i did try the new launcher while the old one was open which may have broken it?
#2317 [07:45] <fogWraith> nevercast, it will upset the order of things, chaos!!!
#2318 [07:45] <nevercast> fogWraith, Dude.. the order of things is already upset
#2319 [07:46] <nevercast> and this channel has been chaos all day
#2320 [07:46] <fogWraith> It is? :P
#2321 [07:46] <nevercast> we had 200 users today
#2322 [07:46] <nevercast> all because of the damn update :P
#2323 [07:46] <fogWraith> :P
#2324 [07:46] <fogWraith> http://www.minecraft.net/support.jsp
#2325 [07:46] <fogWraith> Yay
#2326 [07:46] * thammi1996 [thammi1996@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2327 [07:46] <izzd> u guys must look forward to new updates :D
#2328 [07:46] <fogWraith> Also, this: http://mojang.com/2011/02/22/a-new-daniel-and-a-new-support-system/
#2329 [07:47] <thammi1996> I cant connect to minecraft.net
#2330 [07:47] <thammi1996> on my laptop and my pc
#2331 [07:47] <fogWraith> thammi1996, minecraft.net login server is down at the moment
#2332 [07:47] <fogWraith> Please wait
#2333 [07:48] <nanicoar> Effin.... Now my server has reverted to beta 1.2!
#2334 [07:48] <Xjet> so anyone have the link to the old launcher ?
#2335 [07:48] <nanicoar> Maybe I'll just go buy some beer...
#2336 [07:49] <nevercast> Xjet, there is no link :D
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#2338 [07:49] <raisin> lol need to have more patience with these kind of things :D
#2339 [07:50] <nevercast> Yeah indeed
#2340 [07:50] * leoncx [leoncx@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2341 [07:50] <leoncx> hi
#2342 [07:50] <nevercast> not connecting to minecraft.net?
#2343 [07:50] <nevercast> Login server is down
#2344 [07:50] <nevercast> please wait
#2345 [07:50] <Xjet> :D
#2346 [07:50] * Kuehe [Kuehe@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2347 [07:50] <Xjet> must change the announce in the irc
#2348 [07:50] <fogWraith> Lol
#2349 [07:50] <nevercast> if this was not your error. Please specify
#2350 [07:50] <nevercast> ?? ask
#2351 [07:50] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2352 [07:50] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2354 [07:51] <nevercast> fogWraith, Okay.. now to automate that for every new user.. I'm 2 behind so far
#2355 [07:51] <fogWraith> Haha
#2356 [07:51] <sim642> Why my minecraft didn't update itself to 1.3? I even got the new launcher and tried forcing the update, but it still just loads the 1.2 version.
#2357 [07:51] <nanicoar> It does look like Mojang only has coders, and not a single sever guy. They're probably running dev code on the production system.
#2358 [07:51] <nevercast> sim642, because the update failed
#2359 [07:51] <Xjet> login server is currently down, wait...
#2360 [07:51] <nevercast> sim642, probably because it didn't login
#2361 [07:51] <nevercast> sim642, meaning you clicked run offline
#2362 [07:52] <nevercast> sim642, meaning it's still using your old client
#2363 [07:52] <sim642> Oh, ok then.
#2364 [07:52] <raisin> do i have to save my server or does it do thath automaticly ?
#2365 [07:52] <nevercast> nanicoar, mollstam is the server-ish guy lol.
#2366 [07:52] <thammi1996> is the server really since yesterday evening down???
#2367 [07:52] <nevercast> raisin, saves automagically iirc
#2368 [07:52] <nevercast> thammi1996, No it's been up and down about 5 times since then lol.
#2369 [07:52] <raisin> can i do something about the lag ?
#2370 [07:53] <nevercast> raisin, yeah not likely lol.
#2371 [07:53] <nevercast> fogWraith, http://twitter.com/NvrCast/
#2372 [07:53] <nevercast> fogWraith, latest tweet.. think that'll bother them?
#2373 [07:53] <fogWraith> Not really :P
#2374 [07:53] <nevercast> you're right..
#2375 [07:53] <nevercast> they wont even read it
#2376 [07:53] <thammi1996> okey, sorry for my bad english i´m from germany an thanks for the info nevercast
#2377 [07:53] <fogWraith> Did you dye your hair? :P
#2378 [07:53] <nevercast> thammi1996, You're welcome
#2379 [07:53] <raisin> can i copy this world into singleplayer
#2380 [07:53] <nevercast> fogWraith, uhh one sec.. idk if it's dyed in that pic
#2381 [07:54] <leoncx> Hi, I try to install a minecraft server to a linux, the server start correctly, the world is created, but when I am connected with my client , I can get a block in my inventory
#2382 [07:54] <raisin> cuz its an awesome starting world
#2383 [07:54] <Xjet> for unlogged people : play on the inbrowser version, it's seem to work
#2384 [07:54] <nevercast> fogWraith, I think that might be half natural half regrowth
#2385 [07:54] <fogWraith> AH
#2386 [07:54] <fogWraith> Looks shopped!
#2387 [07:54] <nevercast> fogWraith, It is
#2388 [07:54] <fogWraith> ;O
#2389 [07:54] <nevercast> fogWraith, My dad is a Photographer and 'shopper lol.
#2390 [07:55] <raisin> nevercast can i copy this world into singleplayer ?
#2391 [07:55] <fogWraith> :P
#2392 [07:55] <Xjet> bb dude, inbrowser works perfectly !
#2393 [07:55] <nevercast> raisin, don't think so
#2394 [07:55] <nevercast> raisin, not sure
#2395 [07:55] <fogWraith> Aha, new version of the forum software is out... time to update :P
#2396 [07:55] * thermi [thermi@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2397 [07:55] <nevercast> fogWraith, which forum?
#2398 [07:55] <raisin> aww cuz it had a really big sand tower already :D
#2399 [07:55] <fogWraith> xenforo
#2400 [07:56] <nevercast> Hey thermi What's your error?
#2401 [07:56] <Okajin> I have to leave (back to work ^^) I hope my pastebin will help you nevercast :)
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#2403 [07:56] <nevercast> Okajin, Yeah I still don't know what happened to that..
#2404 [07:56] <nevercast> Sorry it's 2am..
#2405 [07:56] <thermi> what?
#2406 [07:56] <Okajin> So Good luck and good bye
#2407 [07:56] <thermi> no error
#2408 [07:56] <nevercast> enjoy work
#2409 [07:56] <fogWraith> nevercast, I had the worst nightmare btw
#2410 [07:56] <thermi> i autojoin here
#2411 [07:56] <thermi> :)
#2412 [07:56] <nevercast> thermi, OH GOOD!!
#2413 [07:56] <fogWraith> I had installed VNC and someone had connected to my computer!
#2414 [07:56] <nevercast> thermi, someone that isn't complaining about no login server <3
#2415 [07:57] <fogWraith> And I couldn't boot him, I also saw where he was browsing, for some reason I had mIRC installed
#2416 [07:57] <fogWraith> And he was stealing it!
#2417 [07:57] <thermi> i haven't played mc for like 5 days
#2418 [07:57] <thermi> :D
#2419 [07:57] <nevercast> thermi, Don't bother trying now :P
#2420 [07:57] <nevercast> just a hint
#2421 [07:57] <thermi> k :p
#2422 [07:57] <nevercast> Just a runner up
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#2424 [07:57] <nevercast> 1.3 is out
#2425 [07:57] <thermi> Connection Timeouts or connection refused ?
#2426 [07:57] <thermi> :D
#2427 [07:57] <nevercast> lots of new stuff
#2428 [07:57] <nevercast> new bugs
#2429 [07:57] <thermi> i know
#2430 [07:57] <nevercast> login server is a tard
#2431 [07:57] <thermi> i got it yesterday
#2432 [07:57] <nevercast> mac doesn't support shit
#2433 [07:58] <nevercast> and it's all gone to hell :D
#2434 [07:58] <nevercast> in short
#2435 [07:58] <thermi> so
#2436 [07:58] <thermi> just like at any update?
#2437 [07:58] <thermi> _:D
#2438 [07:58] <nevercast> ... yeah I guess :P
#2439 [07:58] <nevercast> I've only been around since 1.2_02
#2440 [07:58] <nevercast> so this is my first update
#2441 [07:58] <thermi> i've been around since... let me look
#2442 [07:59] * Nordas [Nordas@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2443 [07:59] <nevercast> since 'nam right?
#2444 [07:59] <nevercast> WWI ?
#2445 [07:59] <nevercast> lol.
#2446 [07:59] <nanicoar> lol
#2447 [07:59] <thermi> nearly :p
#2448 [07:59] <thermi> middle age
#2449 [07:59] <thermi> :D
#2450 [07:59] <nevercast> you're middle age now?
#2451 [07:59] <Nordas> i cant open someof my world
#2452 [07:59] <nevercast> so you were fighting the berlin wall at 18?
#2453 [08:00] <thermi> lool
#2454 [08:00] <nevercast> sorry.. I'm being a dick lol.
#2455 [08:00] <thermi> no
#2456 [08:00] <thermi> :D
#2457 [08:00] <Nordas> data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8%2F9hAAAABGdBTUEAAK%2FINwWK6QAAABl0RVh0U29mdHdhcmUAQWRvYmUgSW1hZ2VSZWFkeXHJZTwAAAEzSURBVDjLxdOxasJAHAZwwbfKkjlbJVMpJaYmxtSoNVoSsCLlekQSjcZNRUFFIUNxD5nqY7Rr%2BwiuX89M3a62lA4f3PL97n%2FHXQ5A7jfJ%2FRng%2B%2F1LSsn72UAQ%2BHlWJp5Hj4Q8gguE4VAIw0GWwSAQWPl1sZhjv39Gr%2FfAB4bDAJNJhCgaYTweYbNZIY5jrNcruM49HwiCP
#2458 [08:00] * nevercast decided he could try sleep through the earthquakes... or he could #minecrafthelp and alcohol.
#2458 [08:00] <nevercast> Nordas, Thanks for that
#2459 [08:00] <thermi> since october 14 th
#2460 [08:00] <thermi> :D
#2461 [08:01] <nevercast> ahh okay :)
#2462 [08:01] <thermi> 2010
#2463 [08:01] <thermi> :D
#2464 [08:01] <nevercast> yah
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#2466 [08:03] <nevercast> WOAHAHAHAH
#2467 [08:03] <nevercast> lol.
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#2470 [08:05] <nordas> hello
#2471 [08:05] <nordas> i need some help
#2472 [08:05] <nordas> i cant open my old world
#2473 [08:06] <thermi> http://asset.soup.io/asset/1579/7752_70a4.jpeg
#2474 [08:06] <thermi> lol
#2475 [08:06] <nevercast> LOL
#2476 [08:07] <nevercast> nordas, convert it :)
#2477 [08:07] <nordas> it did that automaticaly
#2478 [08:07] <thermi> http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/demotivational-posters-odyssey.jpg
#2479 [08:08] <nordas> when i open the world it starts to load and mc shuts down
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#2482 [08:09] <thermi> http://asset.soup.io/asset/1576/6428_34a0.jpeg LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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#2486 [08:11] <mib_euxc1n> help pls
#2487 [08:12] <mib_euxc1n> i can's start minecraft
#2488 [08:12] <mib_euxc1n> can't
#2489 [08:12] <nanicoar> You mean log in?
#2490 [08:12] <mib_euxc1n> im logging in and than : Can't conect on minecraft.net
#2491 [08:12] <thammi1996> a question what means seed for the wold generator
#2492 [08:13] <nanicoar> Yeah... old launcher works.
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#2494 [08:13] <mib_euxc1n> yes i can't log in
#2495 [08:13] <mib_euxc1n> at the minecraft launcher
#2496 [08:13] <EchoVelocity> are the log in servers still down?
#2497 [08:14] <EchoVelocity> I thought it got fixed last night
#2498 [08:14] <mib_euxc1n> i don't know
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#2501 [08:14] <chemowski> hello
#2502 [08:14] <chemowski> anyone here?
#2503 [08:14] <mib_euxc1n> who can log in at minecraft launcher
#2504 [08:14] <nanicoar> thammi1996: Seed is what the random number generator eats to make worlds.
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#2506 [08:15] <wojciechg92> lol, i can't log out of minecraft.net
#2507 [08:15] <chemowski> ive just bought the minecraft, but when i joined a server i got bad login. i removed the .minecraft folder and now the minecraft.exe is a black box
#2508 [08:15] <Coll> anyone here?
#2509 [08:15] <chemowski> ill test to play from the browser online
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#2511 [08:15] <mib_euxc1n> I wanted to log and let me update but then can not connect minecraft.net
#2512 [08:15] <myr> Hello, can someone help me getting the game started on mac?
#2513 [08:16] <myr> i downloaded it a few minutes ago and everytime i press create new world it crashes
#2514 [08:16] <myr> :(
#2515 [08:16] <mib_euxc1n> yes me too
#2516 [08:16] <nevercast> myr, Notch is working RIGHT NOW on fixing the Mac version
#2517 [08:16] <Coll> anyone?
#2518 [08:16] <wojciechg92> lol, i had really nice world on 1.2_02 and now its like gone (files are there, but cant start it)
#2519 [08:17] <myr> so theres no way to run it atm?
#2520 [08:17] <mib_euxc1n> nevercast, ??? i can't log in at minecraft launcher pls help ??
#2521 [08:17] <nevercast> myr, not for mac users, no
#2522 [08:17] <myr> maybe emulating with wine or sth?
#2523 [08:17] <myr> mh k.
#2524 [08:17] <nanicoar> wojciechg92: Need to convert.
#2525 [08:17] <nevercast> mib_euxc1n, servers are down afaik
#2526 [08:17] <myr> thanks.. :(
#2527 [08:17] <nevercast> myr, it's being fixed at the moment though
#2528 [08:17] <nevercast> myr, shouldn't be too long
#2529 [08:17] <wojciechg92> but i cant see anything like World2
#2530 [08:18] <wojciechg92> and world2 was my best world
#2531 [08:18] <wojciechg92> it's not displayed on the list
#2532 [08:18] <myr> okay.. i hope it will be fixed in some days =) thanks for help!
#2533 [08:18] <mib_euxc1n> I CAN'T LOG IN AT MINECRAFT LAUNCHER ?? BUT WHY ???
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#2535 [08:18] <mib_euxc1n> I HAVE A WINDOWS 7 PC
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#2537 [08:19] <nevercast> mib_euxc1n, the servers are down
#2538 [08:19] <nevercast> SERVER.. DOWN
#2539 [08:19] <mib_euxc1n> HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE?
#2540 [08:19] <nevercast> stop yelling
#2541 [08:19] <wojciechg92> no, i can log in without any problem
#2542 [08:20] <nevercast> mib_euxc1n, I don't know
#2543 [08:20] <nevercast> mib_euxc1n, so have some patience
#2544 [08:20] <nevercast> wojciechg92, what launcher are you using?
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#2546 [08:20] <ItsCriminal> http://pastebin.com/1miFFwhA i get this when starting server
#2547 [08:20] <wojciechg92> yes, my world showed up! ufff
#2548 [08:20] <mib_euxc1n> i use the new lauchner
#2549 [08:20] <mib_euxc1n> launcher*
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#2551 [08:20] <redpanda157> I'm having trouble with the new launcher.
#2552 [08:21] <mib_euxc1n> who can speak German?
#2553 [08:21] <redpanda157> It won't update to 1.3, its still at 1.2_02
#2554 [08:21] <myr> wasn los mib?
#2555 [08:21] <nevercast> mib_euxc1n, it's an english help channel
#2556 [08:21] <myr> ^^
#2557 [08:21] <mib_euxc1n> ja
#2558 [08:21] <mib_euxc1n> also
#2559 [08:21] <mib_euxc1n> ich habe den neuen launcher
#2560 [08:21] <nanicoar> Everything is broken ATM. Old launcher gets you logged in, but it auto-updates.
#2561 [08:21] <mib_euxc1n> gedownloadet
#2562 [08:21] <nevercast> nanicoar, yeah I know
#2563 [08:22] <mib_euxc1n> dann wollte ich mich einloggen aber es geht
#2564 [08:22] <mib_euxc1n> net
#2565 [08:22] <myr> ill translate it to mib.
#2566 [08:22] <myr> mib die server sind grade down
#2567 [08:22] <myr> weil n neues update aufgespielt wird
#2568 [08:22] <mib_euxc1n> da steht dann can't connect at minecraft.net
#2569 [08:22] <mib_euxc1n> aso
#2570 [08:22] <thammi1996> es geht
#2571 [08:22] <mib_euxc1n> wie lange dauert es ca noch ?
#2572 [08:22] <myr> ka
#2573 [08:22] <thammi1996> es geht wieder alter
#2574 [08:22] <nevercast> myr, Tell mib.. that minecraft.net is offline.. and no one knows when it'll be back.. if he has the old launcher he can use that for now..
#2575 [08:22] <Coll> look can anyone here help me with a win7 problem
#2576 [08:22] <mib_euxc1n> hoffentlich nimmer so lange
#2577 [08:22] <myr> i actually told him
#2578 [08:22] <Coll> seriously a No would be nice instead of ignoring me
#2579 [08:22] <nevercast> Coll, Patience!
#2580 [08:23] <mib_euxc1n> jeah es geht :D
#2581 [08:23] <nevercast> Coll, most people are asleep
#2582 [08:23] <nevercast> Coll, what's the problem?
#2583 [08:23] <Coll> but the thing is
#2584 [08:23] <mib_euxc1n> thammi ?
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#2586 [08:23] <redpanda157> what time zone is Mojang in?
#2587 [08:23] <Coll> uh ok basicly I am scanning pictures for some weird reason it is putting them all into 1 file that only picture viewer can see
#2588 [08:23] <mib_euxc1n> wie bekomme ich mein hd texture pack von misa wieder ?
#2589 [08:23] <nevercast> redpanda157, Netherlands or Sweden
#2590 [08:23] <Coll> how the hell can I get those pictures out
#2591 [08:23] <Coll> basicly
#2592 [08:23] <redpanda157> ok, im guessing GMT then
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#2594 [08:23] <nevercast> Coll, That is not a Minecraft problem.. ask somewhere else.
#2595 [08:24] <Coll> hmm
#2596 [08:24] <Coll> I do believe I made not of this
#2597 [08:24] <Coll> like here > "look can anyone here help me with a win7 problem"
#2598 [08:24] <nevercast> People here don't specialise in anything but Minecraft
#2599 [08:24] <nevercast> so we can't answer your question
#2600 [08:24] <nevercast> we don't know
#2601 [08:25] <Coll> but everyone uses a computer to play minecraft
#2602 [08:25] <nevercast> I use Linux
#2603 [08:25] <Coll> and I seriously doubt they use it just to play minecraft
#2604 [08:25] <AG_Clinton> http://www.sevenforums.com/
#2605 [08:25] <mib_euxc1n> es geht alles auch des texture :)
#2606 [08:25] <nevercast> AG_Clinton, Save me
#2607 [08:25] <Coll> ok thats fine
#2608 [08:25] <AG_Clinton> It's seriously useful.
#2609 [08:25] <nevercast> AG_Clinton, I'm a general non-voice/op user getting flooded with germans and such
#2610 [08:25] <mib_euxc1n> thx @all ;)
#2611 [08:25] <nevercast> mib_euxc1n, ... ahh welcome?
#2612 [08:26] <nevercast> bai
#2613 [08:26] <AG_Clinton> I'm a sleep deprived server admin getting flooded with... work?
#2614 [08:26] <AG_Clinton> :D
#2615 [08:26] <nevercast> Yeah.. that's a point
#2616 [08:26] <nevercast> It's 2:30am
#2617 [08:26] <nevercast> and I choose to be up
#2618 [08:26] <nevercast> I guess I'm the fail one here
#2619 [08:26] <AG_Clinton> It's 7:26am here.
#2620 [08:26] <nevercast> wow
#2621 [08:26] <nevercast> yeah but you have to be up ?
#2622 [08:26] <redpanda157> 8:26 on February Break :D
#2623 [08:26] <AG_Clinton> In 2 and a hal hours.
#2624 [08:27] <nevercast> Tell you what....
#2625 [08:27] <nevercast> I'll help admin those servers :D
#2626 [08:27] <AG_Clinton> I already got everything on lock.
#2627 [08:27] <nevercast> beats repeating to everyone that the login server is either down or the new launcher is fucked.. just wait for a fix
#2628 [08:27] <AG_Clinton> Sounds like you need a macro.
#2629 [08:27] <nevercast> Yeah I do
#2630 [08:27] <BarryCarlyon> Someone call for a Macro?
#2631 [08:28] <Macro> I R MACRO!
#2632 [08:28] <myr> or put it in the topic ^.^
#2633 [08:28] <nevercast> LOL
#2634 [08:28] <nevercast> myr, well yeah.. which on of awake type can do that > lol.
#2635 [08:28] <nevercast> *one
#2636 [08:28] <Macro> Its broken.
#2637 [08:28] <Macro> Its Still broken.
#2638 [08:28] <Macro> Yes its broken.
#2639 [08:28] * nevercast cracks up
#2639 [08:28] <nevercast> LOL
#2640 [08:28] <Macro> Yes. It is still broken!
#2641 [08:28] <Macro> No it doesn't work!
#2642 [08:28] <Macro> Yes the cake is a lie!
#2643 [08:29] <nevercast> AHAHAHAHA
#2644 [08:29] <nevercast> Thanks Macro, You've been helpful
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#2647 [08:30] <Cake> hi :D
#2648 [08:30] <Sova> Hello, I can't upload a custom skin to my profile, it just returns me to the profile page with no change. Help appreciated
#2649 [08:30] <nevercast> Sova, Your Skin has uploaded fine
#2650 [08:30] <nevercast> Sova, website preview is broken
#2651 [08:30] <nevercast> Sova, check in game
#2652 [08:30] <MrCake> how do i delete my mods?\
#2653 [08:30] <Sova> ok, cheers thanks
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#2656 [08:30] <nevercast> MrCake, delete your bin directory and let the launcher redownload it all
#2657 [08:31] <MrCake> kk
#2658 [08:31] <nevercast> :)
#2659 [08:31] <nevercast> BarryCarlyon, Do you think Sova will be back shortly about trying to get in the game ? LOL>
#2660 [08:31] <MrCake> :)
#2661 [08:32] <BarryCarlyon> Dunno let me check Macro
#2662 [08:32] <Macro> Yes
#2663 [08:32] <BarryCarlyon> The Macro has spoken
#2664 [08:33] <nevercast> AHHH
#2665 [08:33] <nevercast> Ask it if I have cramp in my foot
#2666 [08:33] <nevercast> if it says No
#2667 [08:33] <nevercast> it so totally lies
#2668 [08:33] <nevercast> ARGH
#2669 [08:33] <nevercast> Oh wait.. it's gone
#2670 [08:33] <nevercast> :D
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#2672 [08:35] <Macro> Its gone.
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#2676 [08:37] <Marth> Hello
#2677 [08:38] <Marth> I got a problem
#2678 [08:38] <Marth> I can't buy the game
#2679 [08:38] <Marth> Is there anyone who could help?
#2680 [08:38] <Macro> Whats the problem or error?
#2681 [08:38] * Macro can help
#2681 [08:38] <Marth> Let me try again I'll give you the ID
#2682 [08:38] <Macro> I don't want the ID.
#2683 [08:39] <Macro> I would like to know the error or problem
#2684 [08:39] <Marth> oooh ok excuse
#2685 [08:39] <Macro> If you give me your ID I will steal your money
#2686 [08:39] <Macro> <insert manic laughter>
#2687 [08:39] <Macro> How are you trying to pay?
#2688 [08:39] <Marth> With Master Card
#2689 [08:39] <Marth> When I fill in the page
#2690 [08:39] <Macro> Via paypal or straight credit card?
#2691 [08:40] <Marth> Straight Credit Card
#2692 [08:40] <Marth> (I don't speak english so it's hard for me)
#2693 [08:40] <Macro> No problem.
#2694 [08:40] <Macro> What happens when you fill in the page?
#2695 [08:40] <Marth> I just fill in the questions with credit card informations
#2696 [08:40] <Marth> Then it sends me to a page where they say Indentification failed
#2697 [08:40] <Marth> I really don't understand why
#2698 [08:41] <wojciechg92> i bought the game on auction site
#2699 [08:41] <Marth> Credit card number is xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx right?
#2700 [08:41] <BarryCarlyon> Probably means you didn't supply enough details so it couldn't Iedntify you, so fraud protection stopped the payment.
#2701 [08:41] <BarryCarlyon> wojciechg92: why?
#2702 [08:41] <Marth> Mmh so what should I do?
#2703 [08:42] <Macro> Try doing it thru paypal.
#2704 [08:42] <wojciechg92> because i just sent him money and login
#2705 [08:42] <wojciechg92> he did everything with paypal
#2706 [08:42] <Marth> I don't have paypal
#2707 [08:42] <wojciechg92> me too
#2708 [08:42] <Macro> I'm assuming its a proper credit card and not a prepaird one?
#2709 [08:42] <Macro> wojciechg92: you have probably been scammed.
#2710 [08:42] <wojciechg92> aw, sry
#2711 [08:43] <Marth> Me? Scammed?
#2712 [08:43] <BarryCarlyon> no wojciechg92 scammed
#2713 [08:43] <Marth> ok
#2714 [08:43] <BarryCarlyon> Marth: I'm assuming its a proper credit card and not a prepaird one?
#2715 [08:43] <Marth> Yeah it's my mother's one
#2716 [08:44] <BarryCarlyon> Personally I'd recommend getting a paypal account.
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#2718 [08:44] <BarryCarlyon> But I don't see why it would not work.
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#2720 [08:45] <Marth> Same to me
#2721 [08:45] <bobd0le> so.... there was an update?
#2722 [08:45] <BarryCarlyon> wojciechg92: are you having a problem with your account of just chipping in?
#2723 [08:45] <Marth> It's look like there is an error with my bank
#2724 [08:45] <bobd0le> what is the "Seed for the world generator" ?
#2725 [08:45] * Macro says there was a update
#2725 [08:45] <Marth> Just when I try to buy
#2726 [08:45] <Macro> bobd0le: seed means you can speficy your own random string to generate worlds off.
#2727 [08:45] <Macro> Rather than the generated string.
#2728 [08:45] <bobd0le> And what would that do?
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#2730 [08:46] <wojciechg92> no, i dont have any problems with my account now... except loggin out of minecraft.net ;p
#2731 [08:46] <Macro> bobd0le: it just chages the math that generates new world chunks
#2732 [08:46] <bobd0le> fair enough
#2733 [08:46] <bobd0le> have the graphics been updated aswell btw?
#2734 [08:46] <Macro> There is a new lighting engine.
#2735 [08:46] <Macro> And some extra options in the menu.
#2736 [08:47] <Macro> The shadows are a lot more realistic
#2737 [08:47] <bobd0le> ahh, the new lighting could well be what im seeeing
#2738 [08:47] <bobd0le> ja
#2739 [08:47] <Marth> I guess noone can helps me
#2740 [08:47] <Macro> Marth: check with your bank.
#2741 [08:47] <Marth> What are you meaning?
#2742 [08:48] <Macro> They should be able to advise why its not working and/or if they are blocking it.
#2743 [08:48] <Macro> When I tried to buy something from germany once I got a similar error, and a phone call from the bank about 30 mins later saying we think someone stole you card.
#2744 [08:48] <Macro> Then I could get the trasnaction to go thru
#2745 [08:48] <Marth> lol
#2746 [08:49] <Marth> Ok I'll ask my mother
#2747 [08:49] <Marth> Thanks
#2748 [08:49] <Marth> Bye bye
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#2750 [08:50] * Macro coos
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#2754 [08:53] <bobd0le> anyway to take ingame screenshots
#2755 [08:53] <bobd0le> or is it just printscreen + copy paste and cut in paint?
#2756 [08:54] <Macro> f2
#2757 [08:54] <Macro> f1 to hide hud
#2758 [08:54] <Macro> f2 to take picture
#2759 [08:54] <bobd0le> and where are they saved? mc folder?
#2760 [08:54] <Macro> yip
#2761 [08:54] <bobd0le> sweet
#2762 [08:54] <bobd0le> cheers bro
#2763 [08:54] <Macro> should be a folder called screenshots
#2764 [09:01] <bobd0le> how long does day / night last btw?
#2765 [09:01] <BarryCarlyon> 20mins is one day split about 60/40 day/night
#2766 [09:01] <BarryCarlyon> If you sleep in a bed it skips to morning
#2767 [09:02] <ConMan8> ?
#2768 [09:02] <BarryCarlyon> ConMan8: minecraft has beds now.
#2769 [09:02] <BarryCarlyon> If everyone on a server gets into bed at night the sever skips to morning.
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#2773 [09:08] <Lobatto> hi
#2774 [09:11] <myr> hi
#2775 [09:12] <BarryCarlyon> hi
#2776 [09:12] <Macro> hi
#2777 [09:13] <Lobatto> is there an option to change my email ?^^
#2778 [09:13] <BarryCarlyon> Nope.
#2779 [09:13] <Lobatto> hmm, then i'm going to ask the support^^
#2780 [09:14] <Lobatto> but thx :)
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#2782 [09:14] <BarryCarlyon> Was about to say
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#2784 [09:14] <BarryCarlyon> Thats where we send you. But they have a massive queueeeeuueueueuueuueee
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#2786 [09:15] <nevercast> notch has just announched
#2787 [09:15] <nevercast> that all mac users
#2788 [09:15] <nevercast> should redownload the launcher
#2789 [09:16] <myr> thanks. ill test it
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#2791 [09:17] <jal> any vanilla test servers up? :D
#2792 [09:18] <myr> the new mac launcher WORKS!
#2793 [09:18] <nevercast> myr, make sure you're using 1.3_01
#2794 [09:18] <myr> i am :)
#2795 [09:18] <myr> thanks for the great support
#2796 [09:19] <bobd0le> sandstone? is this new?
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#2798 [09:21] <Lizzy> Hey all =) got a short question, the Anaglyph mode in minecraft, ist it Red - Blue or Red - Cyan?
#2799 [09:21] <nevercast> Lizzy, Should be Red and Cyan
#2800 [09:22] <Lizzy> Thanks ;) needed to know that for buying the right glasses =) greetings from Germany
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#2802 [09:31] <ItsCriminal> friend logs in, falls down to nowhere, and cant see crap, after awhile he is going to diconnect staight away
#2803 [09:31] <ItsCriminal> someone know what that could be
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#2805 [09:31] <ItsCriminal> now he got overflow
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#2807 [09:36] <bobd0le> and quick way to find diamond / caves?
#2808 [09:36] <bobd0le> *any
#2809 [09:37] <CoLoN> dig
#2810 [09:37] <CoLoN> like champ
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#2812 [09:37] <CoLoN> like a*
#2813 [09:38] <CoLoN> anyway for me to host my server on my macbook?
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#2815 [09:40] <nevercast> 3:40am
#2816 [09:40] <nevercast> sleep time
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#2818 [09:42] <jfe> Hello
#2819 [09:42] <jfe> bye bye
#2820 [09:48] <jal> Can anyone tell me if the graphics has been updateD? :D
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#2836 [09:57] <BarryCarlyon> OOps. Wrong button.
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#2840 [09:58] <Reyouka> derpderp
#2841 [09:58] <Reyouka> wait what
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#2843 [10:02] <ngc0202> nobody can join my server!
#2844 [10:02] <ngc0202> "Outdated server!"
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#2846 [10:03] <ngc0202> yes ty AuBot but bukkit is updated and working with 1.3
#2847 [10:03] <ngc0202> ...and in my server (updated)
#2848 [10:04] <ItsCriminal> damn while converting it crashed
#2849 [10:04] <ItsCriminal> cant convert map anymore
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#2851 [10:04] <ilaks> Hi
#2852 [10:04] <ItsCriminal> hi
#2853 [10:04] <ilaks> I have an issue
#2854 [10:04] <ConMan8> ?? ask
#2855 [10:04] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2856 [10:04] <ItsCriminal> so ask
#2857 [10:04] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2858 [10:04] <ilaks> i am about to..
#2859 [10:04] <ilaks> Anyways
#2860 [10:05] <ilaks> I forgot the password aswell as the email i registered the account on.
#2861 [10:05] <ilaks> What to do?
#2862 [10:05] <ilaks> I've checked all my email accounts for the "forgot password" email, yet i cant find any. I might have written a fake one.
#2863 [10:06] <ConMan8> Email daniel@mojang.com
#2864 [10:06] <ilaks> How can i prove that the account is mine?
#2865 [10:06] <ilaks> I havnt bought the game yet. Just have the account.
#2866 [10:07] <ConMan8> Well, can't you just make another account then?
#2867 [10:07] <ilaks> I want my nickname
#2868 [10:07] <ilaks> <-
#2869 [10:08] <ilaks> it's possible that i have misspelled a word in my email too
#2870 [10:08] <ilaks> i have "awsome" in my email and sometimes i write "awesome" :/
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#2872 [10:10] <Meep> Hey everyone.
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#2874 [10:10] <Meep> I was wondering if anyone knows of any Chest Inventory Editors that work with 1.3
#2875 [10:13] <LG_Legacy> InvEdit not updated yet?
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#2877 [10:13] <Meep> I don't think so.
#2878 [10:13] <ngc0202> nobody responded to me...
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#2881 [10:15] <ngc0202_PC> -.-
#2882 [10:16] <ngc0202_PC> yeah im playing tf2 on my laptop now lol
#2883 [10:16] <Meep> Invedit was last updated June 2010..
#2884 [10:16] <ngc0202_PC> hahaha
#2885 [10:16] <Meep> At least, according to the post date.
#2886 [10:17] <Meep> The reason I need an editor is because I have modded items in a chest like Shark Eggs.
#2887 [10:17] <Meep> When I open the chest, my game crashes. = =
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#2889 [10:20] <Meep> So guess not huh? :(
#2890 [10:20] <Meep> Gotta destroy the chest with all my good then somehow..
#2891 [10:21] <ngc0202_PC> lol
#2892 [10:21] <ConMan8> ngc0202 make sure the server is updated too, not just Bukkit
#2893 [10:21] <ngc0202_PC> yeah
#2894 [10:21] <ngc0202_PC> i got the jar a half hour ago
#2895 [10:21] <ConMan8> Meep: Lava the chest
#2896 [10:22] <Meep> Nooooo
#2897 [10:23] <Meep> My fort is made of wood. :(
#2898 [10:23] <Meep> All hell will break loose!
#2899 [10:23] <ngc0202_PC> hahah
#2900 [10:23] <Meep> It's ok. I know of an editor to destroy the chest at least.
#2901 [10:23] <Meep> Seriously though, we need some updated editors.
#2902 [10:26] <ConMan8> Update = mod havoc
#2903 [10:27] <ngc0202_PC> do all plugins need update?
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#2905 [10:28] <devnilliator> I'm still having issues connecting to my server
#2906 [10:28] <devnilliator> can someone see if they can connect to dryfish.net?
#2907 [10:29] <ItsCriminal> devnilliator i got refused
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#2911 [10:37] <mib_po3mwo> Hello?
#2912 [10:37] <ngc0202_PC> howdy!
#2913 [10:37] <Sky> Meow?
#2914 [10:38] <mib_po3mwo> ... I am having a big problem with my own minecraft-server.. Can someone help me with that?
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#2916 [10:39] <RemixMiner_> #Bukkit.
#2917 [10:39] <ngc0202_PC> yiam too
#2918 [10:39] <ngc0202_PC> ignore the y
#2919 [10:39] <ngc0202_PC> its chat button ingame lol
#2920 [10:39] <Sky> What's the problem?
#2921 [10:39] <mib_po3mwo> I can connect to my server. But noone else can :(
#2922 [10:39] <ngc0202_PC> what msg?
#2923 [10:40] <Sky> What IP are you using to connect to your server?
#2924 [10:40] <ItsCriminal> msg = message
#2925 [10:41] <mib_po3mwo> My dad helped me with it, and now it is the ip to the computer (wich it shouldn't??) but before I think it was the right number
#2926 [10:41] <Sky> I asked for the specific IP.
#2927 [10:41] <Sky> Although, really, I just need the first quad.
#2928 [10:42] <mib_po3mwo> Aha. Well, the one it should be is 5.66.226.203
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#2930 [10:42] <Sky> Alright, that's not the problem at least.
#2931 [10:42] <feenyx> that's a hamachi ip
#2932 [10:43] <feenyx> windows firewall is off?
#2933 [10:43] <mib_po3mwo> Yepp.
#2934 [10:43] <mib_po3mwo> I have done the port forwarding also
#2935 [10:43] <feenyx> port forwarding does not affect hamachi networks
#2936 [10:44] <mib_po3mwo> ok, then I know
#2937 [10:44] <feenyx> in that case, I suggest you check whatsmyip.org or something for the proper ip address
#2938 [10:44] <ngc0202_PC> oh yeah I didnt like hamachi
#2939 [10:44] <mib_po3mwo> And what do I use the proper ip adress for? To log in on?
#2940 [10:44] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: are you playing on the same computer the server is running on?
#2941 [10:45] <mib_po3mwo> I am.
#2942 [10:45] <feenyx> then you (and only you) can type 'localhost' when connecting
#2943 [10:45] <Sky> Unrelated; I'm looking over the channel rules and it looks like if I want help with third-party server software I should go somewhere else. Where?
#2944 [10:45] <mib_po3mwo> aha
#2945 [10:45] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: everyone else will need either your external IP (whatsmyip.org will tell you what it is), or your hamachi vpn IP
#2946 [10:46] <feenyx> Sky: depends what software it is. Try a #-sign followed by the addon name
#2947 [10:46] <feenyx> like #bukkit for bukkit-related stuff
#2948 [10:46] <lukegb> Sky: #hmod for hMod stuff (lul)
#2949 [10:46] <feenyx> indeed
#2950 [10:46] <mib_po3mwo> ok
#2951 [10:47] <mib_po3mwo> lokalhost doesn't work :(
#2952 [10:47] <feenyx> localhost with a c
#2953 [10:47] <feenyx> and if it doesn't work, then either your minecraft server isn't running properly, or you have something weird in your hosts file
#2954 [10:47] <feenyx> ?? hosts
#2955 [10:47] <feenyx> ah! no entry!
#2956 [10:48] <Sky> Honestly I don't need help with the server, I just need help with... well, it just seems like everything Minecraft-related needs to be manually compiled by the user, and I've never compiled a program before. The readme files are not much help, they seem to assume I know what they're talking about. =\
#2957 [10:48] <mib_po3mwo> Ok :)
#2958 [10:48] <Sky> So I don't need help with a specific program/addon/etc.
#2959 [10:48] <feenyx> Sky: If you're running Linux, I'm afraid I'm not the guy to help you. I know my way around the OS, but I have no experience running an MC server in it
#2960 [10:48] <ngc0202_PC> i still dont understand
#2961 [10:48] <feenyx> there are others in here who do, though
#2962 [10:48] <Sky> Nope, WinXP.
#2963 [10:49] <ngc0202> why my server is giving
#2964 [10:49] <feenyx> Sky: then there's nothing to compile
#2965 [10:49] <ngc0202_PC> the "Server out of date" or something
#2966 [10:49] <feenyx> download and run :)
#2967 [10:49] <feenyx> ngc0202_PC: then you haven't updated the server
#2968 [10:49] <ngc0202> to everyone trying to joiin!
#2969 [10:49] <ngc0202_PC> IT IS!
#2970 [10:49] <ngc0202_PC> Got the latest jar and the latest bukkit
#2971 [10:49] <fogWraith> Haha, players are complaining that the "server sucks ass"...
#2972 [10:49] <mib_po3mwo> When I write "localhost" when I'm going to log in to my server, the whole Minecraft-program just dissapear :( And I have to start over...
#2973 [10:49] <fogWraith> Thank you, new chunkloading crap!
#2974 [10:50] <feenyx> ngc0202_PC: what version does it give at the start of the server window?
#2975 [10:50] <ngc0202_PC> of?
#2976 [10:50] <feenyx> ngc0202_PC: when you start the server .jar-file, there's a text window. At the very very top of it, it should read what version of MC server is running
#2977 [10:50] <ngc0202> 2011-02-23 10:50:25 [INFO] This server is running Craftbukkit version git-Bukkit
#2978 [10:50] <ngc0202> -0.0.0-437-g9de610a-b405jnks (MC: 1.2_01)
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#2980 [10:51] <feenyx> yeah
#2981 [10:51] <feenyx> 1.2
#2982 [10:51] <feenyx> that's old
#2983 [10:51] <feenyx> current version is 1.3
#2984 [10:51] <ngc0202_PC> WELL THEN THE ONE ON THE SITE IS OLD!
#2985 [10:51] <feenyx> go download new server files
#2986 [10:51] <feenyx> THEN ITS STRANGE THAT I DOWNLOADED THE VERY SAME FILES AND THEYRE WORKING FINE DONT YOU THINK?
#2987 [10:51] <BarryCarlyon> ngc0202_PC: not need to shout.
#2988 [10:51] <feenyx> sheesh
#2989 [10:52] <BarryCarlyon> feenyx: also no need.
#2990 [10:52] <feenyx> BarryCarlyon: I was making a point
#2991 [10:52] <ngc0202_PC> i downloaded like 1.5h ago
#2992 [10:52] <mib_po3mwo> ok, now, my server ip is 5.66.226.203
#2993 [10:52] <ngc0202_PC> twice
#2994 [10:52] <BarryCarlyon> Just means that ngc0202_PC you hit a cloud server that was out of sync now.
#2995 [10:52] <mib_po3mwo> Can someone try on that one??
#2996 [10:52] <Sky> All the .lar does is generate two folders, neither of which have an executable file. Running the .jar again does nothin'.
#2997 [10:52] <BarryCarlyon> mib_po3mwo: that looks like a logmein hamanachi ip.
#2998 [10:52] <mib_po3mwo> 5.66.226.203.
#2999 [10:52] <mib_po3mwo> just see if you can log in
#3000 [10:52] <mib_po3mwo> Plz :)
#3001 [10:52] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: again, that's a hamachi IP address, we can't join it unless we're in the same hamachi network :p
#3002 [10:52] <BarryCarlyon> I can't its a logmein hamanchi IP.
#3003 [10:53] <mib_po3mwo> Aha... But how do I do so anyone can try it than?
#3004 [10:53] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: visit http://www.whatsmyip.org/ please
#3005 [10:53] <mib_po3mwo> ok
#3006 [10:53] <mib_po3mwo> wait
#3007 [10:53] <BarryCarlyon> Dont use hamanchi.
#3008 [10:53] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#3009 [10:53] <ngc0202_PC> ...
#3010 [10:53] <ngc0202_PC> i just downloaded it again!
#3011 [10:53] <ngc0202_PC> from the site
#3012 [10:53] <ngc0202_PC> and it said 1.2_01
#3013 [10:54] <ngc0202_PC> what the hell!
#3014 [10:54] <feenyx> ngc0202_PC: minecraft_server.exe or just the .jar?
#3015 [10:54] <ngc0202_PC> just the jar
#3016 [10:54] <ngc0202_PC> i dont use the .ese
#3017 [10:54] <ngc0202_PC> .exe
#3018 [10:54] <feenyx> get the .exe
#3019 [10:54] <ngc0202_PC> why???
#3020 [10:54] <feenyx> do you want a working server or not?
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#3022 [10:54] <feenyx> Don't ask for help then refuse to follow advice
#3023 [10:54] <ngc0202_PC> i didnt refuse to follow
#3024 [10:55] <feenyx> it's impolite and won't get either of us any closer to being happy :)
#3025 [10:55] <ngc0202_PC> i asked for an explanation
#3026 [10:55] <feenyx> the explanation is that I know the .exe to be working, since I ran it myself
#3027 [10:56] <mib_po3mwo> when i try the other ip, the server says: "FAILED TO BIND TO POR!" :/
#3028 [10:56] <mib_po3mwo> *Port
#3029 [10:56] <mib_po3mwo> And than: Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#3030 [10:57] <LRWerewolf> Question: I know that beds are only supposed to do the mob thing if there is a path between the mob and the bed. However, I've been in a shelter with four doors, all closed, and woken up with a mob in the room with me. Is this a bug (ie: doors should block path) or is this a known and desired behavior (ie: mobs can path through doors)?
#3031 [10:57] <feenyx> ngc0202_PC: I'm sorry if I sound rude, but the ALLCAPS and multiple questionmarks got to me after a hard days work. Anyway, try the exe, let me know how it works.
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#3033 [10:58] <Sky> Minecraft has beds?
#3034 [10:58] <LRWerewolf> Sky: Yup.
#3035 [10:58] <feenyx> LRWerewolf: I haven't had a chance to test the beds myself, but I know for a fact that no mobs other than Ghasts are supposed be able to path through doors
#3036 [10:58] <feenyx> Sky: it does now
#3037 [10:58] <BarryCarlyon> mib_po3mwo: leave the ip setting blank
#3038 [10:58] <mib_po3mwo> Yeah :)
#3039 [10:58] <Sky> *Runs off to the wiki*
#3040 [10:58] <Fischi152> guys
#3041 [10:58] <Fischi152> anyone knows, how to let water flow through open doors
#3042 [10:58] <BarryCarlyon> Fischi152: you can't :-(
#3043 [10:58] <mib_po3mwo> Beds are great!
#3044 [10:58] <Fischi152> damn :S
#3045 [10:59] <LRWerewolf> Sky: Nifty too. In SSP, it makes it morning immediately (though no ticks happen -- ie your furnace will still be going if it was going when you went to bed) and in SMP if everyone beds down, the server jumps to morning (same coveat).
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#3047 [10:59] <Postoffice> ehm, why did our server crash when the new _01 update came?
#3048 [10:59] <Sky> I suppose I can finally stop dicking around with wool and half-blocks to make beds then. Yay!
#3049 [11:00] <mib_po3mwo> But, someone, when i try the ip from "whatsmyip.org" the server says it can't bind to port. And then: Perhaps a server is already running on that port? So how do I do now?
#3050 [11:00] <LRWerewolf> What's really fun is to stand atop your shelter, get all the nearby mobs aggroed and surrounding your shelter, then go to bed. Morning comes, they catch fire, and drop loot nearby. :)
#3051 [11:00] <feenyx> Postoffice: the error log will tell us that. Please put it on pastebin
#3052 [11:00] <Fischi152> btw, are you healed, when you use the bed?
#3053 [11:00] <LRWerewolf> Fischi152: No. It's just a time changer.
#3054 [11:00] <Postoffice> from the server?
#3055 [11:00] <Fischi152> hmkay
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#3058 [11:01] <Sky> Ooh, I like the redstone repeaters more.
#3059 [11:01] <Postoffice> the server dosnt give any errors..
#3060 [11:01] <mib_po3mwo> Postoffice: You have to download it again i think :) I did that and than i worked for me
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#3062 [11:02] <LRWerewolf> Sky: I do to, but I can't help but feel that it would have been trivial for them to have made it a repeater/diode/inverter. You can already switch it between three modes (pass through, unidirectional one way, unidirectional the other), seems like a fourth mode (pass-through invert) wouldn't have been difficult.
#3063 [11:03] <Sky> Probably, but I think we're moving away from the tech-support purpose of the channel. My fault, sorry everyone.
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#3066 [11:03] <Postoffice> we downloaded for the 1.3 patch, but you dont have to download after a _XX patching?
#3067 [11:05] <LG_Legacy> What?
#3068 [11:05] <showtime1304> ähhm.. can anybody help me? i downloaded the newest version of minecraft.. i started it and it works.. then i closed minecraft.. create server with mcadmin and started minecraft again.. i logged in, saw the mojang picture and than minecraft closed..
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#3071 [11:08] <ngc0202_PC> feenyx: the reason I didn't think it would work is because I use bukkit, so I need the jar
#3072 [11:09] <feenyx> no you don't
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#3074 [11:09] <feenyx> I also use bukkit
#3075 [11:09] <Hypertypical> Hello??
#3076 [11:09] <Hypertypical> Anyone here??
#3077 [11:09] <Sky> Hi.
#3078 [11:09] <ngc0202_PC> god damn it!
#3079 [11:09] <feenyx> downloaded the exe, ran it once, then quit it. Then got the latest craftbukkit.jar from the repository (430 is the latest), and ran that through my batch file
#3080 [11:09] <Hypertypical> Are servers up yet?
#3081 [11:10] <ngc0202_PC> the jar still doesnt work
#3082 [11:10] <Hypertypical> I bought the game yesterday and haven't got to play multiplayer once!!
#3083 [11:10] <feenyx> ngc0202_PC: are you doubleclicking the .jar to run the server?
#3084 [11:10] <ngc0202_PC> no
#3085 [11:10] <Hypertypical> @feenyx; Is multiplayer still down??
#3086 [11:11] <feenyx> Hypertypical: not particularly. My server is running fine, with people on it :p
#3087 [11:11] <Hypertypical> OMFG
#3088 [11:11] <Hypertypical> What is IP?
#3089 [11:11] <Hypertypical> I want to play multiplayer so much :@
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#3091 [11:12] <feenyx> I'm running a whitelist though, so you'd need to be on the list :p
#3092 [11:12] <Hypertypical> :(
#3093 [11:12] <feenyx> although I read the whitelist is now an actual server feature, and I won't need addons for it
#3094 [11:12] <feenyx> once I get time, I'll get it configured properlyu
#3095 [11:12] <feenyx> I'll let you know :)
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#3097 [11:13] <Hypertypical> can you play multiplayer with 1.3??
#3098 [11:13] <feenyx> yes
#3099 [11:13] <ngc0202_PC> so what's wrong??
#3100 [11:13] <mib_po3mwo> Someone help me?
#3101 [11:13] <ngc0202_PC> notch fail?
#3102 [11:14] <Hypertypical> Does anybody have the IP of a server (with players) I can play on?
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#3105 [11:15] <feenyx> Hypertypical: try asking in #smp
#3106 [11:15] <ngc0202_PC> no
#3107 [11:15] <ngc0202_PC> because notch faile
#3108 [11:15] <ngc0202_PC> d
#3109 [11:15] <ngc0202_PC> or so it seems
#3110 [11:15] <Hypertypical> lol
#3111 [11:15] <mib_po3mwo> I have change from hamatchi to the ip on "whatsmyip.org" but now the server says: "Failed to connect to port. Perhaps a server is already running on that port?" So how do I do now?
#3112 [11:16] <ngc0202_PC> oh\
#3113 [11:16] <relsqui> ngc0202_PC: are you claiming that SMP doesn't work right now? despite the people who are successfully using it?
#3114 [11:16] <ngc0202_PC> You have to end the java process
#3115 [11:16] <ngc0202_PC> no, but mine doesn
#3116 [11:16] <Hypertypical> @feenyx - How do I get to SMP?
#3117 [11:16] <ngc0202_PC> 't and It's because notch failed
#3118 [11:16] <feenyx> ngc0202_PC: what I did: Download the minecraft_server.exe - Put it in the same dir as your current files (but have a backup) - Run the exe once - Kill the server process - Download the latest craftbukkit snapshot from the relevant website, then follow their instructions
#3119 [11:16] <ngc0202_PC> /join #smp
#3120 [11:16] <feenyx> Hypertypical: type "/join #smp"
#3121 [11:16] <mib_po3mwo> Do I have to end the java process?
#3122 [11:17] <ngc0202_PC> ...
#3123 [11:17] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: the javaw.exe one
#3124 [11:17] <mib_po3mwo> ok
#3125 [11:17] <Hypertypical> Nobody is there :(
#3126 [11:17] <Hypertypical> #smp is dead :@
#3127 [11:17] <mib_po3mwo> how do I find it that? :S
#3128 [11:17] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: task manager
#3129 [11:17] <mib_po3mwo> Task manager? ...
#3130 [11:18] <feenyx> I'm thinking you shouldn't be running a server if you don't know what task manager is :p
#3131 [11:18] <mib_po3mwo> I am from Sweden so I maybe know the word in swedish :)
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#3133 [11:19] <Lauless> where can I find this task manager in my linux mc server?!? ;)
#3134 [11:19] <feenyx> Lauless: I (perhaps wrongfully) assume people trying to run a linux mc server know how to kill a process, and that it wouldn't be called javaw.exe :p
#3135 [11:20] <Hypertypical> hello?
#3136 [11:20] <Hypertypical> feenyx, in the official minecraft IRC, how do I register my nickname??
#3137 [11:20] <Lauless> :)
#3138 [11:20] <Hypertypical> so i can talk
#3139 [11:20] <LG_Legacy> This is the Official Minecraft IRC
#3140 [11:20] <LG_Legacy> Well.
#3141 [11:20] <mib_po3mwo> It doesn't work :(
#3142 [11:20] <LG_Legacy> .It's not our network, but you're in an official channel.
#3143 [11:20] <Hypertypical> No, i mean
#3144 [11:20] <Hypertypical> on minecraft.net
#3145 [11:20] <Hypertypical> the one run by notch
#3146 [11:21] <LG_Legacy> What about Minecraft.net Website?
#3147 [11:21] <LG_Legacy> IRC and Website is very different.
#3148 [11:21] <Hypertypical> There ore 3 on the website, this is the middle one
#3149 [11:21] <Hypertypical> -.-
#3150 [11:21] <LG_Legacy> Hold on
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#3152 [11:21] <LG_Legacy> I know what you mean
#3153 [11:21] <LG_Legacy> Listen
#3154 [11:21] <Hypertypical> :/
#3155 [11:21] <LG_Legacy> That link? It leads to an IRC Network, one that we do not own but our channels are made on. We own the channels.
#3156 [11:21] <Hypertypical> Argh
#3157 [11:22] <LG_Legacy> If you want to register the name Hypertypical the command follows: /nickserv register password email
#3158 [11:22] <Hypertypical> On Minecraft.net
#3159 [11:22] <mib_po3mwo> Feenyx: It doesn't when I closed the javaw.exe :(
#3160 [11:22] <LG_Legacy> Clicking the link to get here does not connect from Minecraft.net, it's only a link.
#3161 [11:22] <mib_po3mwo> *It doesn't work
#3162 [11:22] <LG_Legacy> You're using a web-client for IRC or a built in browser IRC Client.
#3163 [11:22] <relsqui> Hypertypical: if your problem is that you can't talk in #minecraft, it has nothing to do with website registration
#3164 [11:22] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: check your server.properties file. Is there anything written on the Server IP line?
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#3166 [11:22] * LG_Legacy facepalmns
#3166 [11:22] <mib_po3mwo> wait
#3167 [11:23] * feenyx soothes LG_Legacy
#3167 [11:23] <feenyx> there, there
#3168 [11:23] <LG_Legacy> It happens
#3169 [11:23] <mib_po3mwo> Yes, my server-ip from whatsmyip.org
#3170 [11:23] <LG_Legacy> We get alot of people who don't understand IRC Is not connected to Minecraft.net
#3171 [11:23] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: remove it
#3172 [11:23] <mib_po3mwo> Ok. It shouldn't be anything there?
#3173 [11:23] <feenyx> LG_Legacy: such is the ignorance of todays youth. Everyone knew what irc was in my time :p
#3174 [11:24] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: nope, it should be left blank
#3175 [11:24] <mib_po3mwo> Ok :)
#3176 [11:24] <feenyx> LG_Legacy: ofcourse, many referred to it as "that mirc thing", which made me want to punch them, but still :p
#3177 [11:25] <relsqui> haha
#3178 [11:25] <LG_Legacy> I wish he could of stayed for me to explain it
#3179 [11:25] <feenyx> he'll be back
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#3181 [11:26] <ngc0202_PC> xD
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#3183 [11:27] <mib_po3mwo> Feenyx: Now it doesn't work either. The server says: "Starting minecraft server on *:25565". And before it at least stood a number instead of the star. And it still says: " Failed to connect to port. Perhaps a server is already running on that port?"
#3184 [11:27] <LG_Legacy> Port issues? Anti-Virus or a fire wall is blocking it, if not a router which is not forwarded or not forwarded correctly.
#3185 [11:27] <ngc0202_PC> nyeh!
#3186 [11:27] <LG_Legacy> I've had an issue to where it was nothing at all. Sometimes the ISP blocks it themselves.
#3187 [11:28] <feenyx> mib_po3mwo: try a reboot, just for the hell of it :p
#3188 [11:28] <mib_po3mwo> Feenyx: Ok, thanks for the help :)
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#3192 [11:36] <Chris> hey you guys!
#3193 [11:39] <Chris> i just have a quick question probably, because i think a lot of people are having the same problem that i am
#3194 [11:40] <fogWraith> Ask away, sonnyboy!
#3195 [11:40] <Chris> i can log in to singleplayer, and it seems to connect (doesn't give me the "can't connect" message)
#3196 [11:40] <Chris> but i just get a black screen
#3197 [11:40] <Chris> the menu loads, i just can't see it
#3198 [11:40] <Chris> i can tell because if i click enough i hear the menu click noise, haha
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#3200 [11:40] <Hypertypical> Hello??
#3201 [11:41] <fogWraith> Peculiar issue, worked before the update? :P
#3202 [11:41] <Chris> not since the new launcher
#3203 [11:41] <Chris> if i click to the point where a world would spawn
#3204 [11:41] <Chris> or where the worlds (1-5) menu would come up, the client closes
#3205 [11:41] <feenyx> LG_Legacy: told you
#3206 [11:41] <Hypertypical> @fogWraith; I registered my Nickname at #minecraft, I crossed off mIRC and now I can't talk on it again, how do I log in?
#3207 [11:42] <fogWraith> Chris: Win+R, %appdata%, delete .minecraft
#3208 [11:42] <fogWraith> ....
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#3210 [11:42] <fogWraith> Hypertypical, identify with nickserv
#3211 [11:42] <fogWraith> /msg nickserv identify mypasswordhere
#3212 [11:42] <Chris> i'll give it a shot
#3213 [11:43] <fogWraith> Oh, and your old worlds
#3214 [11:43] <fogWraith> Save them first if you want to keep them
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#3216 [11:43] <Chris> lols
#3217 [11:43] <Chris> all deleted already
#3218 [11:43] <fogWraith> Ah well ;)
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#3220 [11:43] <Hypertypical> Sorry disconnected :(
#3221 [11:43] <Hypertypical> Can anybody help :(
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#3223 [11:43] <fogWraith> Hypertypical, identify with nickserv
#3224 [11:44] <fogWraith> /msg nickserv identify mypasswordhere
#3225 [11:44] <Hypertypical> kk
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#3228 [11:44] <Scuzpuppy> Are nether portals up and operational yet?
#3229 [11:45] <Chris> so clicking and dragging the .minecraft folder to the recycle bin, that's the same as using the fancy commands right?
#3230 [11:45] <fogWraith> Sure :P
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#3232 [11:46] <Chris> no dice
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#3234 [11:46] <Chris> i might just wait it out and see if it starts working again in a few days
#3235 [11:46] <Chris> after a bunch of bug fixes have come out
#3236 [11:49] <xolotl> I like how the minecraft server reports its startup time in nanoseconds
#3237 [11:49] <xolotl> "Done (1353158009ns)!"
#3238 [11:49] <xolotl> Useful!
#3239 [11:49] <Xerati> fancy commands?
#3240 [11:50] <Xerati> lol
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#3246 [11:56] <Kaya> Hey guys im back again ^_^
#3247 [11:57] <LRWerewolf> *hides*
#3248 [11:57] <Kaya> so this time i wanna ask... How do i use a Hoe and how do I make the grass grow?
#3249 [11:57] <LRWerewolf> Kaya: Grass spreads from grass. To hoe, use the hoe tool and right button the grass/dirt you wish to turn into farmland. If you hoe grass, it has a chance to spawn seeds when you do so.
#3250 [11:59] <LRWerewolf> Kaya: As far as the spread pattern goes, "Grass can spread to any of the immediately adjacent blocks in the same layer, including diagonally. Grass can also spread to blocks one level above or three levels below the source block" ( http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Grass )
#3251 [12:00] <Kaya> what do i do with seeds?
#3252 [12:00] <Kaya> Plant em okay but what do they do?
#3253 [12:01] <Chris> grow wheat and craft it into bread bro
#3254 [12:01] <Chris> smack it when it turns brown
#3255 [12:02] <Kaya> ok
#3256 [12:02] <LRWerewolf> Kaya: Plant them in farm land within 4 blocks of water and eventually they'll ripen into wheat which can be harvested for wheat items and more seeds. PS: Never walk on farmland, it'll eventually revert to dirt if you do.
#3257 [12:02] <Kaya> so how do
#3258 [12:02] <Kaya> 4 blocks of water
#3259 [12:02] <Kaya> can i do this artificially?
#3260 [12:06] <Chris> yeah with a bucket
#3261 [12:06] <Kaya> I have grass growing unevenly
#3262 [12:06] <Kaya> this sucks
#3263 [12:06] <Kaya> does any more grow after?
#3264 [12:06] <Chris> one space filled with water will wet four in every direction, even diagonal
#3265 [12:07] <Chris> it grows randomly i think
#3266 [12:07] <Chris> so it's basically always uneven
#3267 [12:07] <Kaya> shucks
#3268 [12:07] <Chris> when you harvest it
#3269 [12:07] <Kaya> can i MAKE it grow?
#3270 [12:07] <Chris> you get wheat, and 0-3 seeds i think
#3271 [12:07] <Chris> so you have to plant more seeds
#3272 [12:07] <Chris> haha you can make it grow by waiting?
#3273 [12:08] <Chris> sometimes i put torches in the area so it's lit up at night, i'm not sure if that makes a difference or not though
#3274 [12:09] <LRWerewolf> Kaya: You cannot make grass grow, no, you can only make sure there's an appropriate path between pre-existing grass and the dirt you want grass on then waiting. Pain in the butt, I built a base with 100 blocks of water on either side... wanted a grassy area in it and had to build a dirt bridge all the way to a nearby landmass and wait...
#3275 [12:09] <LRWerewolf> Chris: Grass only spawns if light's above 4, so yes, torches help since it won't otherwise spread at night.
#3276 [12:09] <Chris> haha my friend did that once, had to build the dirt bridge
#3277 [12:09] <LRWerewolf> Chris: Speeds up the spread at least.
#3278 [12:09] <Chris> he had to wait for hours
#3279 [12:10] <Chris> one time i built a dirt path to bedrock just to have grass at bedrock.. for no reason
#3280 [12:10] <Chris> that was a fun time
#3281 [12:10] <LRWerewolf> Chris: I've found that if you make it wider, it's a little faster, but you get diminishing returns after like four or five wide.
#3282 [12:10] <Chris> truth
#3283 [12:10] <Chris> well hey it's been real
#3284 [12:10] <Chris> i gotta go get some food and go to class
#3285 [12:10] <LRWerewolf> Chris: As well, the downward spread seems to happen pretty fast so if you can leverage that, wootsauce.
#3286 [12:11] <Chris> peace
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#3288 [12:12] <opticalshadow> hello?
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#3291 [12:16] <opticalshadow> anyone else have major performece issues since last patch?
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#3294 [12:21] <MidniiTe> Hi
#3295 [12:22] <MidniiTe> The game worked perfectly for me yesterday until I downloaded the multiplayer server tool, and now when I go to play it says Login Failed (not downloaded)
#3296 [12:23] <MidniiTe> nvm
#3297 [12:23] <Xerati> lol
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#3302 [12:33] <aetherian> heya
#3303 [12:34] <dopeghoti> 'lo
#3304 [12:34] <Kaya> so how long do seeds take to grow out?
#3305 [12:35] <Kaya> oh crap its 1 already -,-
#3306 [12:35] <Kaya> meh
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#3308 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Wheat seeds? It depends on moisture and light.
#3309 [12:35] <aetherian> seeds take around 3/4 hour, iirc
#3310 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> sorrt, that was for Kaya
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#3312 [12:35] <ThinkinBoutBacon> could someone help me?
#3313 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> Kaya: you can do it instantly if you fertilize with bonemeal
#3314 [12:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> ThinkinBoutBacon ask
#3315 [12:35] <VoxelHead> ThinkinBoutBacon: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3316 [12:35] <aetherian> just ask, dammit.
#3317 [12:35] <VoxelHead> ThinkinBoutBacon: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3318 [12:35] <Kaya> whats bonemeal?
#3319 [12:36] <Kaya> is it finally a freaking use for bones?
#3320 [12:36] <aetherian> bones are dropped by skeletons
#3321 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> Kaya: ground-up bone. High in calcium.
#3322 [12:36] <aetherian> put one bone into a crafting thing
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#3324 [12:36] <aetherian> out comes bone meal
#3325 [12:36] <ThinkinBoutBacon> when i open the minecraft.jar to install a mod, it says archive corrupt
#3326 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> ThinkinBoutBacon mods
#3327 [12:36] <VoxelHead> ThinkinBoutBacon: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3328 [12:36] <aetherian> .-.
#3329 [12:36] <VoxelHead> ThinkinBoutBacon: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3330 [12:36] <aetherian> open it with winrar/7zip, not with java
#3331 [12:36] <Drako> Heya, did anyone else get a slime apocolypse yesterday after the update?
#3332 [12:36] <aetherian> not I
#3333 [12:36] <ThinkinBoutBacon> im opening it with winrar
#3334 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> don't use winrar, it's a terrible program
#3335 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> http://7zip.sf.net/ <-- use this
#3336 [12:37] <Drako> i went in my mines last night and got bombarded with at least 50 giant slimes
#3337 [12:37] <ConMan8> unless you're opening minecraft.jar and putting stuff in, DopeGhoti
#3338 [12:37] <aetherian> 7zip is better, true.
#3339 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> ConMan8: no, it's still terrible for that.
#3340 [12:37] <aetherian> but many people already have winrar
#3341 [12:37] <xales> ConMan8: no, still terrible
#3342 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: many people also have Ebola.
#3343 [12:38] <ThinkinBoutBacon> well winrar has worked for me lately, so i just kept using it
#3344 [12:38] <Kaya> its bad for me to step on my own crops or something?
#3345 [12:38] <ConMan8> I have nothing wrong with it
#3346 [12:38] <aetherian> kaya, that is true
#3347 [12:38] <Xerati> winrar is great
#3348 [12:38] <aetherian> do you go around stomping on your flowers in real life?
#3349 [12:38] <DopeGhoti> Kaya: yes, walking on your seedlings may kill them.
#3350 [12:38] <aetherian> Xerati: haha no.
#3351 [12:38] <feenyx> Would the proccess of injecting files into minecraft.jar be vastly different in experience between the two programs?
#3352 [12:38] <Kaya> wheat-bread how?
#3353 [12:38] <Xerati> aetherian, you're a definitive all around noob
#3354 [12:38] <aetherian> huh buh wha
#3355 [12:38] <Kaya> i tried making a pigfarm
#3356 [12:38] <Kaya> i did so bad
#3357 [12:39] <Xerati> exactly my point
#3358 [12:39] <Kaya> i got a saddle from a treasure chest
#3359 [12:39] <aetherian> o.o
#3360 [12:39] <Kaya> 3 to be precise
#3361 [12:39] <Kaya> and i pushed a pig into my house
#3362 [12:39] <Kaya> made a room for it
#3363 [12:39] <Kaya> but i found out
#3364 [12:39] * aetherian facepalms
#3364 [12:39] <Xerati> llolol
#3365 [12:39] <Kaya> that you shouldnt try riding a pig in a small area
#3366 [12:39] <Xerati> this story pwns
#3367 [12:39] <Kaya> cause that means
#3368 [12:39] <Kaya> you get stuck in blocks
#3369 [12:39] <Kaya> and the pig
#3370 [12:39] <Kaya> just kept killing me
#3371 [12:39] <Kaya> in my own home
#3372 [12:39] <aetherian> okay, even I don't use enter as a comma quite so much.
#3373 [12:40] <feenyx> Demon pig!
#3374 [12:40] <Xerati> Kaya, riding pigs is only worth doing on cliffs
#3375 [12:40] <Kaya> Sorry im upset and i forget sometimes. Anyway i killed it off cause well... It pissed me off for the last time
#3376 [12:40] <Kaya> but you cant control the darn thing... whats the point of riding it down cliffs when you cant control it?
#3377 [12:41] <Xerati> exactly
#3378 [12:42] <Xerati> that's why i sell them on SMP to noobs, or burn them in SP
#3379 [12:42] <aetherian> you know the point?
#3380 [12:42] <ThinkinBoutBacon> i get the error "not implemented" with 7zip :/
#3381 [12:42] <aetherian> put 'em in minecarts
#3382 [12:42] <aetherian> are you putting them in the appdata .jar?
#3383 [12:43] <ThinkinBoutBacon> yup
#3384 [12:43] <Xerati> delete the jar
#3385 [12:43] <Xerati> if winrar says it's corrupt, it is
#3386 [12:43] <Xerati> or your system is broken beyond repair, in which case...well...good luck
#3387 [12:43] <ThinkinBoutBacon> it says its corrupt everytime i re download it. but the game still plays just fine
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#3389 [12:44] <Xerati> how old is your winrar?
#3390 [12:44] <Xerati> and what os are you?
#3391 [12:44] <Xerati> on
#3392 [12:44] <ThinkinBoutBacon> idk how old it is. windows 7 home premium
#3393 [12:45] <feenyx> all in favor of renaming WinRAR for Mac to "MacRAR", show of hands please
#3394 [12:45] <ThinkinBoutBacon> *hand*
#3395 [12:45] <Xerati> rofl
#3396 [12:45] <Xerati> wait, are you on mac?
#3397 [12:45] <Xerati> nvm, you said win 7
#3398 [12:45] <Xerati> lolol
#3399 [12:45] <Xerati> stop confusing me
#3400 [12:45] <ThinkinBoutBacon> no, lol. but i do have a mac haha
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#3403 [12:48] <ThinkinBoutBacon> when i finally get the .jar to open, the only files i have are .svn, LZMA,, META_INF,net, and Util.class
#3404 [12:48] <ThinkinBoutBacon> i remember there being more files :/
#3405 [12:48] <Kaya> Btw, Is it just me or are there more iron's around now?
#3406 [12:48] <xales> what .jar did you open?
#3407 [12:49] <xales> it definately shouldn't have .svn...
#3408 [12:49] <ThinkinBoutBacon> the one in appdata/roaming/.minecraft/bin
#3409 [12:49] <lukegb> xales: it'd be hilarious if it did :P
#3410 [12:49] * aetherian sighs
#3410 [12:49] <xales> ThinkinBoutBacon: that's...problematic
#3411 [12:50] <xales> what was the original issue you were having?
#3412 [12:50] <xales> lukegb: I can't think of any reason it would have .svn...any ideas yourself? :P
#3413 [12:50] <ThinkinBoutBacon> yeah. but when i tried to delete the META_INF is when it says "archive corrupt"
#3414 [12:50] <lukegb> xales: nope.
#3415 [12:51] <lukegb> Err, I'm pretty sure jars don't work without META_INFs
#3416 [12:51] <xales> ThinkinBoutBacon: So, you are just trying to install a mod but it doesn't work?
#3417 [12:51] <lukegb> If you're installing a mod, delete everything in the META-INF, except the MANIFEST.MF
#3418 [12:51] <Kaya> How long does wheat take to grow out naturally?
#3419 [12:52] <xales> Kaya: http://minecraftwiki.net/
#3420 [12:52] <Kaya> Can do.
#3421 [12:52] <ThinkinBoutBacon> actually lukegb, you have to delete the META-INF to use a mod
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#3423 [12:52] <ThinkinBoutBacon> when i try to delete the META-INF to install the mod, it says archive corrupt
#3424 [12:53] <xales> ThinkinBoutBacon: Delete everything in the bin folder
#3425 [12:53] <xales> then launch Minecraft again, and go to the main menu
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#3427 [12:54] * xales has to go but if that doesn't work, ThinkinBoutBacon, ask in #risucraft
#3427 [12:54] <Kaya> Stupid pig keeps trampling on my crop. Im never gonna let him out ever,.
#3428 [12:55] <ThinkinBoutBacon> lol. thanks. now i cant connect to minecraft.net :/ nothin but problems for me
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#3430 [12:55] <Hypertypical> Hello? Is anybody here?
#3431 [12:55] <aetherian> no.
#3432 [12:55] <Hypertypical> -.-
#3433 [12:55] <aetherian> nobody here but us chickens
#3434 [12:56] <Hypertypical> Is the login server down again?
#3435 [12:56] <Hypertypical> ??
#3436 [12:56] <Hypertypical> Hello?
#3437 [12:56] <aetherian> not for me
#3438 [12:56] <Hypertypical> Argh!
#3439 [12:56] <aetherian> jeez man, have patience
#3440 [12:56] <Hypertypical> I mean on the program
#3441 [12:57] <aetherian> I just answered you.
#3442 [12:57] <aetherian> no use asking again.
#3443 [12:57] <Hypertypical> urgh this annoying
#3444 [12:57] <Hypertypical> just messed up my router
#3445 [12:57] <DopeGhoti> What did you do that for?
#3446 [12:57] <Hypertypical> :L
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#3448 [12:58] <Hypertypical> So the login server is definately up?
#3449 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not up for me
#3450 [12:58] <the_late_man> it just worked for me
#3451 [12:58] <Hypertypical> :/
#3452 [12:58] <the_late_man> when he asked, I launched mc.
#3453 [12:59] <Hypertypical> This is annoying
#3454 [12:59] <aetherian> well, too bad,
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#3456 [12:59] <Hypertypical> When I assign ports to forward to my Laptop on my router and press apply
#3457 [12:59] <Hypertypical> it just assigns it to an old computer I don't have anymore
#3458 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Unless you're running a server, you don't need to port forward for minecraft
#3459 [12:59] <Hypertypical> URGH!!!
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#3461 [13:01] <aetherian> use more exclamation points next time.
#3462 [13:01] <DopeGhoti> please don't.
#3463 [13:01] <aetherian> @_@
#3464 [13:01] <Hypertypical> I just set my router to how it was before and I STR
#3465 [13:01] <Hypertypical> STILL* can't log in...
#3466 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> Try logging in via the in-browser client
#3467 [13:02] <DopeGhoti> Hypertypical: you should not need any port forwarding settings in order to play the game, as the Grey one has mentioned.
#3468 [13:02] <Hypertypical> I have just deleted the port settings i changed
#3469 [13:02] <Hypertypical> well... i Unassigned them
#3470 [13:03] <DopeGhoti> okay, so what happens when you try to log into the Minecraft site?
#3471 [13:03] <Hypertypical> I've deleted now.
#3472 [13:03] <Hypertypical> trying again now...
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#3475 [13:04] <ThinkinBoutBacon> are the login servers down?
#3476 [13:04] <Hypertypical> Hmmm... Does anybody know any possible reasons I can't login on the client?
#3477 [13:04] <ThinkinBoutBacon> i cant login either
#3478 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, auth server's down
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#3480 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Or just plain overloaded.
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#3482 [13:05] <Hypertypical> Other people can login though -.-
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#3484 [13:05] <ThinkinBoutBacon> notch picked favorites :/
#3485 [13:05] <lulle> is the login problem still going?
#3486 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried using the website?
#3487 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Indeed lulle.
#3488 [13:05] <Hypertypical> I purchased the game yesterday and all I've got so far is 5 seconds of glitched multiplayer.
#3489 [13:05] <ThinkinBoutBacon> the website is fine
#3490 [13:05] <lulle> ;/
#3491 [13:06] <Hypertypical> I bought this game expecting it to work -.-
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#3493 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> It does, but this happens during patch day.
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#3495 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> You just happened to pick a bad day to join up.
#3496 [13:07] <figaro> has anyone actually managed to long in client
#3497 [13:07] <figaro> *log in
#3498 [13:07] <RayeS> Expecting a beta to work fully is already where you go wrong :>
#3499 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes, was better last night, auth server actually let in people
#3500 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Guess, less people on.
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#3502 [13:07] <RayeS> Anyway more people having problems with their redstone circuits?
#3503 [13:07] <DopeGhoti> figaro: I haven' tried today, but I was able to yesterday.
#3504 [13:08] <DopeGhoti> RayeS: could you be more specific?
#3505 [13:08] <aetherian> I was able to log into my client just a few minutes ago...
#3506 [13:08] <RayeS> torches going off when triggered and not turning back on
#3507 [13:08] <ThinkinBoutBacon> i was able to login on the in browser, but not the client
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#3509 [13:09] <aetherian> I logged into client
#3510 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> RayeS: I've only seen that happen with two adjacent RS torches shorting each other out
#3511 [13:09] <Hypertypical> Will they be upgrading to some better login servers or something?
#3512 [13:09] <aetherian> but I was using the old client, though I am pretty sure that doesn't make a difference.
#3513 [13:09] <RayeS> no problems logging in on client of web..
#3514 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> Hypertypical: they're in the process of doing that now
#3515 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> aetherian - It does.
#3516 [13:09] <ThinkinBoutBacon> so now my .jar has all the files, but when i try to run MC, it says failed to load main class
#3517 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> The new client uses SSL
#3518 [13:09] <figaro> good
#3519 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> The old one, doesn't
#3520 [13:09] <DopeGhoti> Hypertypical: they just want it done _right_, not done _quickly_ like was done in the change to Amazon
#3521 [13:09] <aetherian> okay then, everybody, use the old client.
#3522 [13:10] * GreyVulpine baps aetherian
#3522 [13:10] <aetherian> lol
#3523 [13:10] <figaro> i aint got old client lol
#3524 [13:10] <Hypertypical> I guess it's back to singleplayer :'(
#3525 [13:10] <aetherian> I saved it, renamed it and saved it.
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#3529 [13:11] <shnuke> What is up with beds in single player mode
#3530 [13:12] <shnuke> Every time
#3531 [13:12] <aetherian> ?
#3532 [13:12] <shnuke> Every SINGLE time I try to use it
#3533 [13:12] <Lamaduck> Real slow download =(! Havent got any mods or nuffin. Gets stuck on 36% =(
#3534 [13:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> shnuke irc/flood
#3535 [13:12] <VoxelHead> shnuke: (irc/flood) Please don't flood the channel; don't use the Enter key as a comma. If you have a lot to say, it's a lot easier for everyone to read if you contain it all on one line, and it makes the channel easier to follow. Thanks.
#3536 [13:12] <aetherian> get in from the side, shnuke
#3537 [13:12] <RayeS> DopeGhoti: well it also happens in the easy circuits actually
#3538 [13:12] <shnuke> my character suddenly wakes up with a zombie next to the,
#3539 [13:12] <shnuke> er, them
#3540 [13:12] <DopeGhoti> RayeS: sleep with the lights on.
#3541 [13:12] <DopeGhoti> erm, shnuke rather
#3542 [13:12] <aetherian> afraid of the dark...
#3543 [13:12] <RayeS> :> lol
#3544 [13:12] <shnuke> I do
#3545 [13:13] <shnuke> Not sure where they're coming from
#3546 [13:13] <shnuke> I had a passageway to my mob trap, but I sealed it after the first incident
#3547 [13:13] <shnuke> I guess i'll seal up the entrance to my mine as well?
#3548 [13:13] <DopeGhoti> ??>> paininflictor irc
#3549 [13:14] <shnuke> although they're both ladder entrances, and the zombie is always in the same place.
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#3551 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> shnuke: or put in some doors
#3552 [13:14] <DopeGhoti> (zombies can climb ladders)
#3553 [13:14] <shnuke> D: I have a bunch of doors already
#3554 [13:14] <shnuke> And I'll put in more doors once I get to morning and can get some wood planks
#3555 [13:15] <shnuke> actually, i'll just seal my bed in a tiny chamber that's well lit
#3556 [13:15] <shnuke> hopefully will fix the problem
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#3559 [13:16] <shnuke> okay, attempt no. 3
#3560 [13:16] <trandin> Hey guys, I have a small question!
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#3562 [13:16] <shnuke> what the heck???
#3563 [13:17] <aetherian> ??> trandin ask
#3564 [13:17] <VoxelHead> trandin: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3565 [13:17] <VoxelHead> trandin: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#3567 [13:17] <shnuke> Guys, I fell asleep in a tiny space on the bed, and i woke up as a skeleton appeared on the bed
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#3571 [13:17] <aetherian> shnuke: lies.
#3572 [13:17] <aetherian> that's impossible
#3573 [13:17] <ItsCriminal> is there any good backuping tool?
#3574 [13:17] <shnuke> However, it was well-lit, sealed, and tiny
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#3576 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: tar.
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#3578 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: tar and cron.
#3579 [13:17] <ItsCriminal> :D
#3580 [13:17] <shnuke> I know it's impossible, which is why I hate it
#3581 [13:18] <shnuke> It defies logic
#3582 [13:18] <trandin> I downloaded the server.exe for beta 1.3, and I am curious if it is necessary for me to "save" I and my friends progress. Or if it saves automatically.
#3583 [13:18] <ItsCriminal> i think i have to do then some setting up my server more
#3584 [13:18] <shnuke> I apparently just don't get to use beds
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#3586 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> trandin: before 'stop'ping the server, run the command 'save-all', and you're all set.
#3587 [13:18] <trandin> Okay, thank you very much
#3588 [13:18] <shnuke> Can anyone think of why this is happening?
#3589 [13:18] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#3590 [13:18] <shnuke> Usually minecrafthelp has all the answers for me
#3591 [13:19] <DopeGhoti> shnuke: Is your player name F_Keruger and the game's just getting cosmic justice on you?
#3592 [13:19] <shnuke> no
#3593 [13:19] <shnuke> lol
#3594 [13:19] <shnuke> My player name is Shnuke
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#3598 [13:20] <shnuke> And also, I've sealed off my mine and everything else from my house, which is filled with torches, and I sealed off my bedroom from the house and filled the bedroom with torches.
#3599 [13:20] <aetherian> heya piggy
#3600 [13:20] <shnuke> And yet, the skeleton
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#3604 [13:20] <shnuke> Is it supposed to be "your character had a nightmare"? If so, that's lamesauce
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#3607 [13:21] <DopeGhoti> shnuke: if so, it's not documented.
#3608 [13:21] <shnuke> You know what, screw it
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#3610 [13:21] <shnuke> This must be the game saying "play on peaceful mode
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#3612 [13:21] <shnuke> so i shall
#3613 [13:21] <shnuke> attempt #4, peaceful mode enabled
#3614 [13:22] <DopeGhoti> shnuke: SssssSSSs
#3615 [13:22] <shnuke> Yay, it works
#3616 [13:22] <shnuke> So I'll just play on peaceful mode from now on, forever
#3617 [13:22] <shnuke> Not a perfect solution, but meh
#3618 [13:23] <shnuke> I guess...thanks, minecrafthelp?
#3619 [13:23] <RayeS> well I think I tried every possible solution.. but it seems double doors with pressure plates and a redstone circuit to let them open and close at the same time is bugged :>
#3620 [13:24] <RayeS> redstone torch does not got back on since 1.3
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#3622 [13:25] <BarryCarlyon> RayeS: my double doors stil work
#3623 [13:25] <BarryCarlyon> tho I will log on now and check
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#3625 [13:25] <RayeS> k, let me know :>
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#3627 [13:26] <BarryCarlyon> Tho that was yesterday.
#3628 [13:27] <BarryCarlyon> I assume since yesterday we need to server update?
#3629 [13:27] <RayeS> u aint got 1.3 yet?
#3630 [13:27] <BarryCarlyon> I do.
#3631 [13:27] <RayeS> there was another little update after I guess
#3632 [13:27] <BarryCarlyon> indeed
#3633 [13:27] <RayeS> but no server update needed for that
#3634 [13:27] <RayeS> at least not here
#3635 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> minor.
#3636 [13:27] <RayeS> thats what I said.. little :>
#3637 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> but yes, I can confirm RS still working normally on my server and in other 1.3 clients.
#3638 [13:28] <BarryCarlyon> My double door circle still works.
#3639 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> circle?
#3640 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> in Minecraft? Blasphemy!
#3641 [13:29] <BarryCarlyon> circuit*
#3642 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> Ah. Less funny.
#3643 [13:29] <BarryCarlyon> Interestingly my console is not listening to commands but I think I ballesed up screen
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#3645 [13:29] <RayeS> weiird.. they just wont go back on.. it works.. once.. and the left door stays open as the torch does not go back on..
#3646 [13:29] <BarryCarlyon> yah I did.
#3647 [13:29] <BarryCarlyon> RayeS: I think your circuit is wrong
#3648 [13:30] <RayeS> so from a working circuit for weeks it suddenly gets to a wrong circuit?
#3649 [13:30] <RayeS> oO
#3650 [13:30] <BarryCarlyon> Hmm
#3651 [13:30] <BarryCarlyon> Could try rebuilding in.
#3652 [13:30] <DopeGhoti> RayeS: screenshot of the circuit?
#3653 [13:30] <RayeS> k hold on
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#3656 [13:33] <leaper> i have problem buying minecraft
#3657 [13:34] <leaper> they give me an ID problem
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#3659 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> ?? error
#3660 [13:35] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message"
#3661 [13:35] <VoxelHead> error: we need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means;;If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#3662 [13:35] <leaper> they give me iD:111799022
#3663 [13:35] <leaper> im buying minecraft
#3664 [13:35] <leaper> with a prebuy visa card
#3665 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> ?? prepaid
#3666 [13:37] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#3667 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> Try using PayPal instead.
#3668 [13:38] <leaper> how that works?
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#3670 [13:38] <DopeGhoti> How does PayPal work? You sign up for the (free) account, link it to your bank account or credit card, and use the PayPal account to fund your Minecraft purchace
#3671 [13:39] <leaper> aa ok
#3672 [13:39] <leaper> thanks
#3673 [13:39] <Grafii> hi it's possible to change mc account email?
#3674 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> Quite welcome.
#3675 [13:39] <RayeS> DopeGhoti: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rayes/mc/1rsdd.gif http://www.xs4all.nl/~rayes/mc/2rsdd.gif
#3676 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> Grafii: Sorry, no, that's not possible at present.
#3677 [13:39] <RayeS> both screenshot are after the pressure plate has been pressed
#3678 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> RayeS: 404
#3679 [13:39] <RayeS> before they are both closed and torch is burning
#3680 [13:39] <DopeGhoti> oh, wait
#3681 [13:40] <RayeS> and when I walk over pressure plate they both open
#3682 [13:40] <RayeS> it has always been like that :>
#3683 [13:40] <RayeS> and when I release the pressure plate only the right door closes so you get what you see in the screenshots
#3684 [13:40] <Grafii> fuuuuu, but thank you ;P
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#3686 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> that's.. spectacularly hard to make out.
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#3689 [13:41] <RayeS> ?
#3690 [13:41] <prozero> i have connect error on mincraft.net
#3691 [13:41] <prozero> :(
#3692 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> prozero: they're working on it; the auth server is overloaded at the moment.
#3693 [13:41] <mikul> me 2
#3694 [13:41] <RayeS> auth server is under heavy fire probably :)
#3695 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> prozero: if you still have the old lancher, that's been reported to work better.
#3696 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> launcher, rather
#3697 [13:42] <prozero> ty
#3698 [13:43] <bultom> e35:2ec9:abb0:225:22ff:fe8e:c54a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Is anyone playing MC on linux based system ? I can't play online version , plugin not loading :(
#3699 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> bultom: I play the Linux version all the time (from home).
#3700 [13:44] <RayeS> and DopeGhoti :> got anything out of it?
#3701 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> RayeS: Are you running any mods besides the texture pack?
#3702 [13:44] <bultom> e35:2ec9:abb0:225:22ff:fe8e:c54a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :DopeGhoti what plugin is using MC for online version ( I have Flash/java installed and working , but MC plugin not loading :/)
#3703 [13:44] <Kaya> Anyone can give me a suggestion for a good trap? Ive found a monster spawner cube and I dont know what to do with it =/
#3704 [13:45] <RayeS> not really.. McMyAdmin.. the server is running on that.. but no mods
#3705 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> bultom: the in-browser version is just Java; not Flash. Try the downloadable client instead of the browser version?
#3706 [13:45] <RayeS> got this clay texture pack untill HD texture pack comes out again
#3707 [13:45] <Misan> hi
#3708 [13:45] <BarryCarlyon> Redstone repeates dont link to redstone wires easily
#3709 [13:46] <bultom> e35:2ec9:abb0:225:22ff:fe8e:c54a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :DopeGhoti downloadable version say "can't connect minecraft.net" when i try to login >_<
#3710 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> BarryCarlyon: come again?
#3711 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> ??> bultom mc.net/down
#3712 [13:46] <VoxelHead> bultom: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#3713 [13:46] <VoxelHead> bultom: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#3714 [13:46] <Misan> can someone tell me what i did wrong with repeaters? (i tried to find a better/easier design for playing noteblocks)
#3715 [13:46] <Misan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHseYZFuTKw
#3716 [13:46] <bultom> e35:2ec9:abb0:225:22ff:fe8e:c54a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Oh
#3717 [13:46] <BarryCarlyon> Redstone wire wont turn a corner to link to a redtone diode/repeater
#3718 [13:46] <bultom> e35:2ec9:abb0:225:22ff:fe8e:c54a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Ok thanks that explain manythings ;D
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#3720 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> BarryCarlyon: that's nothing new; RS has always needed to go "sraight into" a block rather than round a corner into it.
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#3722 [13:47] <BarryCarlyon> Was expecting it to turn for the redstone repeater/diode block that was all :-D
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#3724 [13:48] <mikul> dose anyone have the old launcher for linux?
#3725 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> mikul: I'd send a copy to you, but it pretty clearly says "Do not distribute".
#3726 [13:49] <mikul> aha.. cuz i heard the old one should work.. cuz i want to try the game.. never tried it
#3727 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Try the in-browser version
#3728 [13:49] <kolonia> does anyone know who or where I can turn in my little question? It says I havent bought it, but I just bought it 30 min. ago, and it worked fine for 15 minutes and now it says I dont have bought it
#3729 [13:49] <kolonia> I have an transaction ID
#3730 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> mikul: you can't play Beta without having purchased it.
#3731 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> kolonia: purchases sometimes take a few hours to be processed; give it time (:
#3732 [13:50] <kolonia> but I have been logged in and played for about 20 mins ago
#3733 [13:50] <mikul> DopeGhoti, okey.. so how do i try the game?
#3734 [13:50] <kolonia> but now I cant?
#3735 [13:50] <kolonia> thats normal? :)
#3736 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> mikul: "classic" is the demo version for the time being.
#3737 [13:50] <DopeGhoti> kolonia: okay, that's _not_ normal. Is your account name the same as your nick ehre?
#3738 [13:50] <kolonia> yes
#3739 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> !paid kolonia
#3740 [13:51] <kolonia> I have a transaction id if u like
#3741 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> kolonia: you could just be running into the problems with the auth servers that have cropped up today
#3742 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> er, today
#3743 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> What error do you get kolonia, when you try and log in?
#3744 [13:51] <kolonia> 2 sek
#3745 [13:51] <kolonia> I'll c/p
#3746 [13:51] <mikul> DopeGhoti, okey.. where can i get the "classic" from?
#3747 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#3748 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> please so (:
#3749 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> er, do
#3750 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> mikul - From the website.
#3751 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> There should be a "classic" or "free" link on the website
#3752 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> mikul: on the lower-right
#3753 [13:52] <kolonia> Just "Can't connect to minecraft" - but I think, I cant login because it has registered me as 'not-paid', or?
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#3755 [13:52] <kolonia> im trying to login at the client server beta
#3756 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> "Play Minecraft Classic (Outdated, but free):
#3757 [13:52] <amphibulus> Hey
#3758 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> kolonia: no, that's just the authentication bug :(
#3759 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> kolonia - Nope, you're good, it's just the auth server being overloaded
#3760 [13:52] <kolonia> but when I login to the website, it says I have to buy it again :)
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#3762 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> You are shown as paid
#3763 [13:53] <amphibulus> Anyone here have a tree Puncher server, if so, any good?
#3764 [13:53] <kolonia> ok, so I just wait a little and then it will register me on the website as paid? :)
#3765 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> amphibulus: a.. what?
#3766 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> kolonia: yep!
#3767 [13:54] <kolonia> but then again... if it has registered me before... then it dropped me out again? :P
#3768 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> kolonia - Just wait for the auth server to get a little less overloaded.
#3769 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> It'll let you in, you are shown as paid though.
#3770 [13:54] <kolonia> just cuz I have 2 friends playing right now for the first time, and I want my first time to be with them
#3771 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> kolonia: the problem is that the auth server does its own checking of your account status apparently
#3772 [13:54] <kolonia> not sexual meant :P
#3773 [13:55] <kolonia> ooooh
#3774 [13:55] <kolonia> right
#3775 [13:55] <kolonia> :)
#3776 [13:55] <kolonia> fanx m8... much appreciated
#3777 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> my pleasure
#3778 [13:55] <amphibulus> This DopeGhoti
#3779 [13:55] <amphibulus> http://treepuncher.com/
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#3781 [13:56] <pudgetta> hello?
#3782 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> pudgetta: salutations, alleged sentient.
#3783 [13:56] <pudgetta> hello
#3784 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> We've been over this, pudgetta.
#3785 [13:57] <pudgetta> ...?
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#3787 [13:57] <DopeGhoti> How can #MineCraftHelp assist you today?
#3788 [13:57] <Kuth> hahah
#3789 [13:57] <Misan> so
#3790 [13:57] <Misan> can anyone tell me
#3791 [13:57] <Misan> whati did wrong with repeaters?
#3792 [13:57] <Misan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHseYZFuTKw
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#3794 [13:57] <pudgetta> every time i start up minecraft i get the BSOD
#3795 [13:57] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Misan irc/flood
#3796 [13:57] <Misan> that is not flood >.<
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#3798 [13:57] <mib_enakec> loginservers down??
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#3800 [13:57] <Misan> get old launcher mib
#3801 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> pudgetta: if you're getting blue screens of death, something's really badly wrong with your system.
#3802 [13:58] <mib_enakec> where?
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#3804 [13:58] <pudgetta> i know but what?
#3805 [13:58] <zippity> any ideas why i cant log in?
#3806 [13:58] <Misan> <Misan>get old launcher mib
#3807 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> pudgetta: could be anyhting.. corrupted files, bad drivers, bad hardware..
#3808 [13:58] <bipolah> Zippity: On minecraft itself? What OS are you running?
#3809 [13:58] <Misan> dammit, gimme a sec
#3810 [13:58] <Misan> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=49WQX1M0
#3811 [13:58] <pudgetta> all driver update works for about five minutes then BSOD
#3812 [13:58] <Misan> old minecraft launcher
#3813 [13:58] <zippity> i was playing fine like 5 mins ago. closed it by mistake, now i cant log in :S?
#3814 [13:59] <mib_enakec> thx bud
#3815 [13:59] <amphibulus> :/
#3816 [13:59] <bipolah> I can't login at all but I can access minecraft.net
#3817 [13:59] <Misan> <Misan><Misan>get old launcher bipolah
#3818 [14:00] <zippity> anyone?
#3819 [14:00] <ngc0202> wait...the new launcher is causing loggin in problems?
#3820 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> ngc0202: seemingly
#3821 [14:00] <zippity> not untill about 5 mins ago for me
#3822 [14:00] <ngc0202> ooo
#3823 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> lots of reports of the old launcher working
#3824 [14:01] <Misan> <Misan><Misan><Misan>get old launcher zippity
#3825 [14:01] <ngc0202> hehe ngc
#3826 [14:01] <zippity> how do i get it?
#3827 [14:01] <Misan> <Misan>http://www.megaupload.com/?d=49WQX1M0
#3828 [14:01] <ngc0202> *fail*
#3829 [14:01] <Misan> the one who is able to read wins >.<
#3830 [14:01] <Misan> i said that like 2 mins ago
#3831 [14:01] <zippity> cheers
#3832 [14:01] <Kuth> So Misan, tell me once more - Why can't these people log in?
#3833 [14:02] <Misan> because notch fucked up the new launcher, the old launcher still works
#3834 [14:02] <ngc0202> so where do u get the old launcher from?
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#3836 [14:02] <Misan> OMFG
#3837 [14:02] <mib_5jlotu> hi
#3838 [14:02] <Misan> <Misan><Misan>http://www.megaupload.com/?d=49WQX1M0
#3839 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> 'lo mib_5jlotu
#3840 [14:02] <ngc0202> haha
#3841 [14:02] <mikul> what do i need to play the classic version in linux? the screen just turns black..
#3842 [14:02] <bipolah> Misan
#3843 [14:02] <mib_5jlotu> i have a problem with minecraft
#3844 [14:02] <xales> mikul: Sun Java
#3845 [14:02] <Misan> java mikul
#3846 [14:02] <bipolah> Can you get the old one in .jar for Linux?
#3847 [14:02] <xales> ??> mib_5jlotu ask
#3848 [14:02] <mikul> i have java
#3849 [14:02] <VoxelHead> mib_5jlotu: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3850 [14:02] <VoxelHead> mib_5jlotu: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3851 [14:02] <xales> mikul: sun java?
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#3854 [14:02] <mikul> belive so
#3855 [14:03] <xales> mikul: do you also have appropriate graphics drivers installed?
#3856 [14:03] <mikul> just upgraded it
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#3858 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> Misan: I know you're trying to be helpful, but that launcher clearly says "Do not distribute" on it. Please stop posting that link here.
#3859 [14:03] <mikul> yes
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#3861 [14:03] <xales> fglrx for an ati card, nvidia for an nvidia card
#3862 [14:03] <mikul> xales, yes
#3863 [14:03] <mikul> nvidia
#3864 [14:03] <lunarblu> !download
#3865 [14:03] <xales> you have the driver called "nvidia"?
#3866 [14:03] <mib_5jlotu> minecraft-server.jar says OUTOFMEMORY ERROR
#3867 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> mib_5jlotu: how much memory is in your server?
#3868 [14:03] <mikul> i have the right nvidia drivers
#3869 [14:04] <Misan> why i shouldnt "distribute it" ? i just made a backup before updating..
#3870 [14:04] <mib_5jlotu> i don`t know
#3871 [14:04] <xales> mikul: make sure you have sun java
#3872 [14:04] <bultom> e35:2ec9:abb0:225:22ff:fe8e:c54a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Ok DopeGhoti fixed my "problem" i didn't ave nsplugin installer for java :p
#3873 [14:04] <mikul> could it be that i run chrom?
#3874 [14:04] <Misan> and uploaded that backup
#3875 [14:04] <mikul> chrome
#3876 [14:04] <zippity> yeah old one works
#3877 [14:04] <Misan> is that sow illegal?
#3878 [14:04] <mib_5jlotu> my pc have 4GB
#3879 [14:04] <zippity> cheers
#3880 [14:04] <xales> Misan: because it's against the license agreement
#3881 [14:04] <Misan> i mean.. there is "retrocraft"
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#3883 [14:04] <Misan> which offers all old versions
#3884 [14:04] <xales> mib_5jlotu: are you running the server on your PC?
#3885 [14:04] <Misan> and it is leval
#3886 [14:04] <Misan> legal*
#3887 [14:04] <lunarblu> can someone give me the download link
#3888 [14:04] <xales> Misan: no, it's not.
#3889 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> !client
#3890 [14:04] <lunarblu> awesome thank you
#3891 [14:04] <Misan> sue me then
#3892 [14:04] <mikul> xales, yeah.. but could it be that i run chrome as webbrowser?
#3893 [14:04] <xales> mikul: probably not
#3894 [14:04] <mib_5jlotu> yes
#3895 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> Misan: if you post that link again, you will be banned.
#3896 [14:05] <mib_5jlotu> yes
#3897 [14:05] <mikul> xales, ok
#3898 [14:05] <xales> mikul: what distro of Linux is it?
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#3900 [14:05] <mikul> ubuntu
#3901 [14:05] <xales> 10.10 or 10.04?
#3902 [14:05] <Misan> banned for how long?
#3903 [14:05] <xales> Misan: forever
#3904 [14:05] <kolonia> DopeGhoti how long time do it usually take for the server to register, that I've paid the game already? :)
#3905 [14:05] <amphibulus> Anyone Have a server at servercraft ???
#3906 [14:05] <mikul> 10.4 but updateded it to 10.10 3 days ago..
#3907 [14:05] <xales> amphibulus: if you need help with a server hosting provider, file a support ticket
#3908 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> kolonia: on a good day, a couple hours; on a bad day.. a day.
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#3910 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> kolonia - We went over this.
#3911 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> ??>> amphibulus smp/servers
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#3913 [14:06] <Misan> oh, is that a proxy server i have here?
#3914 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> You are shown as paid kolonia
#3915 [14:06] <Misan> *trying*
#3916 [14:06] <xales> mikul: make sure you have sun-java6-jre
#3917 [14:06] <mikul> xales, so it should be 10.10
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#3919 [14:06] <kolonia> yes - but not that question
#3920 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> It's just the auth servers are overloaded, that you can't get in
#3921 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#3922 [14:06] <mib_5jlotu> with the MInecraft BETA 1.2 it works fine
#3923 [14:06] <l|3v0y> why won't it
#3924 [14:06] <l|3v0y> connect
#3925 [14:06] <l|3v0y> when I try loggin in
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#3929 [14:08] <Mattios> ey all
#3930 [14:08] <Mattios> hey*
#3931 [14:08] <aetherian> heya
#3932 [14:08] <l|3v0y> hi
#3933 [14:09] <Mattios> how tio i creat a new world ?
#3934 [14:09] <l|3v0y> I can't update minecraft
#3935 [14:09] <Mattios> on my linux server
#3936 [14:09] <l|3v0y> because it tells me I can't loggin
#3937 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Mattios: start the server; it creates a new world automagically.
#3938 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Mattios - or delete the existing world you have, it'll generate a new one
#3939 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> upon restart
#3940 [14:09] <xales> l|3v0y: what username are you trying to log in with?
#3941 [14:10] <l|3v0y> 3v0y
#3942 [14:10] <Mattios> matt@peng ~/Minecraft $ java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar noiui 2011-02-23 20:09:32 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.3 2011-02-23 20:09:32 [INFO] Loading properties 2011-02-23 20:09:32 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 1.102:21021 2011-02-23 20:09:32 [INFO] Preparing level "world" 2011-02-23 20:09:32 [INFO] Prepa
#3943 [14:10] <l|3v0y> all information are right
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#3945 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Mattios - Delete the "world" folder in the server's directory
#3946 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> It'll generate a new one once you restart the server
#3947 [14:10] <Mattios> connectioon lost
#3948 [14:10] <l|3v0y> it keeps saying
#3949 [14:11] <l|3v0y> can't conenct to minecraft.net
#3950 [14:11] <Mattios> failed to login : bad login
#3951 [14:11] <Mattios> ?!
#3952 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> ??> l|3v0y mc.net/down
#3953 [14:11] <VoxelHead> l|3v0y: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#3954 [14:11] <VoxelHead> l|3v0y: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#3955 [14:11] <l|3v0y> mk
#3956 [14:11] <Mattios> ah is ok
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#3958 [14:13] <web-kadgar> hey guys, i have question, since i updated my sever to version 1.3, one of my friend have trouble interacting with doors, chest, workbench, anything that open close, i asked him to use the full client not just browser, doesnt work with v1.3 nor v1.2.02.....any idea?
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#3960 [14:13] <xales> are there any mods on the server, or is he using any client mods?
#3961 [14:14] <contrex> ..
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#3963 [14:14] <mikul> xales, iv installed sun java but still cant get it to work.. i quickly get the logo then the whole applet turns black
#3964 [14:14] <xales> contrex: ?
#3965 [14:14] <xales> mikul: what graphics card do you have?
#3966 [14:14] <Stoffe111> When will the launcher work?
#3967 [14:14] <web-kadgar> no mod on my server, i also dont have any such trouble
#3968 [14:14] <mikul> xales, nvidia card
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#3971 [14:15] <contrex> our Server is full of this slimes and we cant get rid of them.... they are unkillable. Even if we deactivate them in the server config they still appear. How could we get rid of them (multyplayerserver)
#3972 [14:15] <xales> mikul: what card specifically?
#3973 [14:15] <xales> contrex: just wait for an update
#3974 [14:15] <mikul> xales, shall try to check
#3975 [14:15] <mikul> xales, but it works fine with quake
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#3977 [14:15] <xales> web-kadgar: does he have any mods on his client?
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#3979 [14:15] <mikul> so it shouldnt be a problem
#3980 [14:15] <mib_gb1db6> Hi
#3981 [14:15] <xales> hi
#3982 [14:15] <xales> ??> mikul retro
#3983 [14:15] <VoxelHead> mikul: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#3984 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Contex - Invincible slimes have been reported from other people as well
#3985 [14:15] <VoxelHead> mikul: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#3986 [14:15] <mib_gb1db6> I Big Problemme On This game
#3987 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe there's a way to disable them as of yet
#3988 [14:16] <web-kadgar> xales : my server does not have any mod, he does not have mod either
#3989 [14:16] <xales> mib_gb1db6: what problem?
#3990 [14:16] <mib_gb1db6> Cant Connect Minecraft
#3991 [14:16] <xales> ?? mc.net/down
#3992 [14:16] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#3993 [14:16] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#3994 [14:16] <mib_gb1db6> Try again
#3995 [14:16] <xales> web-kadgar: does he have the problem on other servers
#3996 [14:16] <mikul> xales, geforce 8500 gt =)
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#3998 [14:16] <mib_gb1db6> do you speak french ?
#3999 [14:16] <TheWolf92> hi
#4000 [14:17] <xales> mikul: can you open a Terminal, and run "lsmod" and pastebin that for us (http://pastebin.com)
#4001 [14:17] <xales> hi
#4002 [14:17] <mikul> xales, ok
#4003 [14:17] <wippler> oui ?
#4004 [14:17] <mib_gb1db6> a un francais
#4005 [14:17] <mib_gb1db6> super ^^
#4006 [14:17] <web-kadgar> xales : he havent tried, i can ask him that, but i was thinking ... if i delete his name.dat on the server folder, would it be recreated ?
#4007 [14:17] <mib_gb1db6> Jarive plus a lancée le jeux c'est normale ?
#4008 [14:17] <xales> web-kadgar: it would be recreated, and it might fix it, so try that
#4009 [14:17] <web-kadgar> hey salut les fancrais! :)
#4010 [14:18] <wippler> oui, problèmes avec les serveurs MC
#4011 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> web-kadgar: yes, but his equipment and location would be lost.
#4012 [14:18] <paininflictor> mikul buy chance are you using any outdated plugins on the server or is the server admin using them? Caused a similar problem in a server i had before, and i removed the plugins and/or updated them
#4013 [14:18] <wippler> faut patienter
#4014 [14:18] <mib_gb1db6> Salut ^^
#4015 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_gb1db6 - Le serveur d'authentification est en baisse
#4016 [14:18] <mib_gb1db6> Tu a une idée du temp d'attendre ?
#4017 [14:18] <mib_gb1db6> d'attante *
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#4019 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_gb1db6 - Peut-être quelques heures
#4020 [14:19] <mikul> paininflictor, i tried the singleplayer version just to test it..
#4021 [14:19] <mikul> xales, http://pastebin.com/bNxpQftB
#4022 [14:19] <mib_gb1db6> Oki Merci
#4023 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_gb1db6 - revenez plus tard
#4024 [14:19] <Yelreve> Is the login server down per-chance?
#4025 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes Yelreve
#4026 [14:19] <paininflictor> ohh same issue i presume?
#4027 [14:19] <mib_gb1db6> Sa arive souvent car jais payé le jeux est sa menui quoi ^^
#4028 [14:19] <web-kadgar> xales and DopeGhoti : thanks !! ill have him try that , ill ask him to connect to other server too!
#4029 [14:20] <wippler> t'as acheté une beta
#4030 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_gb1db6 - Je comprends, tout le monde veut jouer
#4031 [14:20] <mib_gb1db6> Oui mais une beta dévrais quand meme etre functionel
#4032 [14:20] <paininflictor> curious, would the mod and/or texture packs cause that issue mikul is having?
#4033 [14:20] <wippler> c'est normal, le jour où il y aura une version finale et bien tu aura payé pour un jeu stable
#4034 [14:20] <wippler> beta=fonctionnel mais pas toujours
#4035 [14:20] <wippler> sinon c'est pas une beta
#4036 [14:20] <mib_gb1db6> Beta Test = Testeur de bug
#4037 [14:21] <web-kadgar> <mib_gb1db6>: essaye avec la version 1.2.02 du launcher, moi ca marcher
#4038 [14:21] <mib_gb1db6> La on peut rien testé vue que l'on peut pas jouée
#4039 [14:21] <mib_gb1db6> Merci Kadgar
#4040 [14:21] <mib_gb1db6> Tu serais me send le link ?
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#4043 [14:22] <web-kadgar> <mib_gb1db6>: malheureusement non je suis au travail lol, et je lavais pris du site minecraft directement avant qui passe a lupdate 1.3
#4044 [14:22] <mib_gb1db6> a je crois que je lest att je vais tester ^^
#4045 [14:23] <mib_gb1db6> Super Mec je t'aime
#4046 [14:23] <mib_gb1db6> Bas voila :P
#4047 [14:23] <mikul> xales, did you c the pastebin?
#4048 [14:23] <xales> mikul: yeah
#4049 [14:23] <web-kadgar> <mib_gb1db6>: hehe de rien!
#4050 [14:23] <xales> mikul: try this - #
#4051 [14:23] <xales> www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#4052 [14:23] <xales> ►
#4053 [14:23] <xales> #
#4054 [14:23] <xales> err
#4055 [14:24] <xales> no idea why it pasted that garbage
#4056 [14:24] <xales> #
#4057 [14:24] <xales> www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#4058 [14:24] <xales> ►
#4059 [14:24] <xales> #
#4060 [14:24] * GreyVulpine snerks
#4060 [14:24] <xales> blech
#4061 [14:24] <mikul> *hehe
#4062 [14:24] <xales> fucking google
#4063 [14:24] <xales> www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml <-- there we go
#4064 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> ??>> xales irc/flood
#4065 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> (:
#4066 [14:24] <mikul> :D
#4067 [14:24] <web-kadgar> lol
#4068 [14:24] <xolotl> xales: Are you going to have to kick yourself now? :)
#4069 [14:24] <xales> ??>> DopeGhoti lmtfa
#4070 [14:25] <xales> xolotl: nou
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#4072 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> ladies.. ladies..
#4073 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> ??>> xales irc/bots
#4074 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Let's be civil about this
#4075 [14:25] <koala77> hello, what can i do when somebody used a gift key without my agreement?
#4076 [14:25] <mib_gb1db6> Tu aurais petaitre une idée pour voir mieux dans le noir ?
#4077 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> koala77: how did they get the key from you?
#4078 [14:26] <xolotl> koala77: Like, somebody "stole" a key and used it?
#4079 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_gb1db6 - les torches
#4080 [14:26] <mib_gb1db6> Sans torche dans le noir total quand tu te balade
#4081 [14:26] <koala77> I watched my profile today and then the free key was used
#4082 [14:26] <xolotl> koala77: Probably the only thing to try is to email payment@mojang.com
#4083 [14:26] <mib_gb1db6> Exemple je vien de repop dans le noir je vois rien du tout
#4084 [14:26] <koala77> thank you :)
#4085 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> koala77: did you ever give anyone else your account password?
#4086 [14:26] <mikul> xales, Your Java configuration is as follows: Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc. Version: Java SE 6 Update 20 Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-28-generic Architecture: i386
#4087 [14:26] <koala77> no
#4088 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_gb1db6 - la luminosité de l'écran?
#4089 [14:27] <mib_gb1db6> Jais perdu ma télécomande c'est sa le problemme
#4090 [14:27] <koala77> ok thanks for the fast support
#4091 [14:27] <xales> mikul: there's an opengl test thingy somewhere, it should be in the package manager
#4092 [14:28] <xales> I don't remember what ubuntu calls it, but look for something related to opengl that's for testing
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#4094 [14:28] <Marth> Hello?
#4095 [14:28] <xales> hi
#4096 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#4097 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> Salutations.
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#4099 [14:28] <mikul> xales, okey, will try to find it
#4100 [14:28] <Marth> I got a problem
#4101 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#4102 [14:28] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4103 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> We have a solution
#4104 [14:28] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4105 [14:28] <Marth> I just bought the game and it doesn't work
#4106 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Define "doesn't work"
#4107 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> ?? error
#4108 [14:28] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#4109 [14:28] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#4110 [14:28] <Marth> "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#4111 [14:29] <Marth> When I click on logg in
#4112 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> The authentication servers are overloaded at the moment, try again later
#4113 [14:29] <Marth> (sorry I don't speak english)
#4114 [14:29] <Marth> Ooh ok
#4115 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/down
#4116 [14:29] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#4117 [14:29] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
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#4119 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> I believe the website login still works, if you want to try that Marth
#4120 [14:29] <Marth> ok ty :)
#4121 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> Use the in-browser version
#4122 [14:30] <Marth> Let's gooo :D
#4123 [14:30] <Marth> ty bb
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#4126 [14:31] <paininflictor> quick question, is minecraft.net just the handler for all traffic or how does that work. I mean, i know servers run on their own servers persay, but is the overload due to amount of people logged on or is it based off incoming/outgoing connections at the same time?
#4127 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> The latter
#4128 [14:31] <Ferron> Hi guys, is there some place else to get the update instead of the launcher?
#4129 [14:31] <Alronix> Hello. I tried launching Minecraft from Linux Mint, but it crashes before I can start the game. I get to the menu, can access options and such. But when I try to enter the world, it crashes. Error output: http://pastebin.com/TUSprt73 Can anyone help me please?
#4130 [14:31] <xales> Ferron: Nope
#4131 [14:31] <exp0> They can't have an infinite amount of connections at a time.
#4132 [14:32] <xales> Alronix: can yu pastebin this file? /home/tore/Minecraft/hs_err_pid3814.log
#4133 [14:32] <Ferron> Xales: too bad, keeps telling me that i cannot connect
#4134 [14:32] <xales> you*
#4135 [14:32] <xales> Ferron: Nobody can right now
#4136 [14:32] <exp0> Ferron: You just have to keep trying.
#4137 [14:32] <Ferron> that's what i do
#4138 [14:32] <Alronix> xales: http://pastebin.com/drThE1cq
#4139 [14:32] <Ferron> and i will continue trying :P
#4140 [14:33] <exp0> xales: did tobias say it was?
#4141 [14:33] <paininflictor> right, but what does it handle? I mean user logins and such im aware of, but other then that, what does it handle. I mean I know the security it handles but how much bandwidth does it take
#4142 [14:33] <Ferron> Thanks
#4143 [14:33] <exp0> It handles everything accept the skin hosting if I remember correctly.
#4144 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> paininflictor - Skins retrieval, authentication and confirmation of account status, website, indexing of classic server.
#4145 [14:33] <paininflictor> i mean at any given time there could be upwards of 20000+ connections at the same time, very unlikely, but given the circumstances, would it cause minecraft.net to stop responding
#4146 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> paininflictor: anytime anyone starts the client, or connects to the server, the client or server check with the auth server to verify the account's status.
#4147 [14:33] <xales> Alronix: has it ever worked?
#4148 [14:34] <exp0> You can read the stats
#4149 [14:34] <exp0> http://www.minecraft.net/stats.jsp
#4150 [14:34] <exp0> 2801 players online, in 888 servers.
#4151 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> paininflictor: the problem is, the auth server is hosted on Amazon EC2, and Amazon can't even keep the control panel for their hosting operation online, much less the actual hosts.
#4152 [14:34] <Alronix> xales: Not on this install. Only on previous install. I haven't played in a while. Felt like trying it again tonight :) Also, tried searching on the forums. But search-function seems out of order atm.
#4153 [14:34] <exp0> Why Amazon is trying to be a host, we may never know
#4154 [14:34] <lunarblu> !server
#4155 [14:35] <paininflictor> so, not to be asking 50million questions
#4156 [14:35] <paininflictor> but, does minecraft plan on changing that in the future
#4157 [14:35] <exp0> Yes
#4158 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Of course.
#4159 [14:35] <exp0> They were looking for a better host that could handle the growing playerbase.
#4160 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> They're currently in talks, and drawing up plans for a new host.
#4161 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> they're working on moving to a better host now, they are just doing it _right_ this time, not just _quickly_.
#4162 [14:35] <paininflictor> yeah, i mean honestly, the amount of time they spend fixing that = less time for new content
#4163 [14:35] <paininflictor> oh got ya
#4164 [14:36] <xales> Alronix: It's a problem with the graphics driver
#4165 [14:36] <exp0> At least they moved to EC2 from what they had before.
#4166 [14:36] <paininflictor> it was horrible before
#4167 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Single.. poor computer
#4168 [14:36] <xales> have you installed the "proprietary" driver, when it prompted you to, or enable it?
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#4170 [14:37] <Alronix> xales: Yes, I did. I can play WoW fine through Wine with OpenGL
#4171 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> note to self: ??+ mc.net/migration
#4172 [14:37] <Jstylen> So I can't find my server files. World server properties ect are just missing. When I run my server all I have is the minecraft_server.jar. I'm in linux of that helps.
#4173 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Jstylen: have you run the server yet? The first time, it creates the .proerties and .txt files.
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#4175 [14:38] <xales> Alronix: I'd wait for Kealper to be around, he knows a bit about Mint (and getting Minecraft to work on it)
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#4177 [14:38] <paininflictor> that stats page can only be for either the beta or free version, not both there is way more people online than that lol
#4178 [14:38] <Jstylen> Yeah that's the wierdest part. THe server is working but the files aren't there...
#4179 [14:39] <Alronix> xales: Ok, thanks. I'll be back later to look for him. Thanks for looking into this!
#4180 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> Jstylen: are you sure you're looking at the right minecraft_server.jar?
#4181 [14:39] <Shadow29live> Hello
#4182 [14:39] <Jstylen> yes
#4183 [14:39] <Jstylen> Positive
#4184 [14:39] <xales> hello
#4185 [14:39] <Shadow29live> Hello and Welcome to the channel.
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#4188 [14:39] <Shadow29live> fail...
#4189 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> Jstylen: so that exacy copy shows up in the output of `lsof | grep minecraft_server`?
#4190 [14:40] <Shadow29live> sorry
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#4193 [14:40] <Mikau> Hello, ladies.
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#4195 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> Wow, random complements on IRC. How unusual.
#4196 [14:42] <farandir> Hello, I've got "java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 500 for URL: https://login.minecraft.net/" are the login server running?
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#4198 [14:42] <Jstylen> Sorry, what do you want me to do with lsof | grep minecraft_server
#4199 [14:42] <xales> farandir: nope, down
#4200 [14:42] <farandir> xales:Thank you
#4201 [14:42] <paininflictor> farandir are you using the worldofminecraft launcher?
#4202 [14:43] <farandir> No I'am using the one downlaoded from minecraft.net.
#4203 [14:43] <paininflictor> hmm
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#4205 [14:43] <mikul> xales, cant find it... its a million packs :D
#4206 [14:43] * Mikau logs in through the old .exe
#4206 [14:43] <Mikau> ;)
#4207 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> Jstylen: run that command and look at the output to confirm the exact location of the running minecraft_server.jar
#4208 [14:43] <Mathuin> Quick question: the new-world chunk size is 32x32 right?
#4209 [14:43] <farandir> But thanks pininflictor
#4210 [14:43] <paininflictor> same error has been occuring with a few people using the wom launcher
#4211 [14:43] <exp0> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/login.minecraft.net/
#4212 [14:43] <paininflictor> no problem
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#4216 [14:44] <xales> mikul: it's just giving you a black screen?
#4217 [14:44] <farandir> Does the page "http://isminecraftdown.net/" work?
#4218 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Mathuin - No, each real world chunk is still 16x16.
#4219 [14:44] <paininflictor> yes its working
#4220 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> It's just now stored in a new file format that puts 32x32 in a single file
#4221 [14:44] <farandir> Or it's just not reflection login servers states:
#4222 [14:44] <Kaya> Animals disappear after a period of time?
#4223 [14:44] <paininflictor> farandir it is working, just checked it now
#4224 [14:45] <xales> Kaya: if you go too far away
#4225 [14:45] <mikul> xales, when i start the applet i accept and then the logo comes upp for a half sec and then the applet turns black and nothing happens
#4226 [14:45] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: okay, thanks. (I tend to build on file-chunk versus game-chunk so that's a new difference for me.)
#4227 [14:45] <Jstylen> Oh ok got it. that's a neat command, It's right where I thought i was. But it's the only file in that folder -_-...
#4228 [14:45] <xales> mikul: can you try it in Firefox (Chrome doesn't support the Java Console) with the Console open, and see what (if any) errors you get?
#4229 [14:45] <exp0> Mc is up.
#4230 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> Jstylen: that's.. weird. Try the same but grepping for server.properties?
#4231 [14:46] <farandir> I mean when login server are down this show that everything is "UP". So id doesn't monitor login server status, does'it?
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#4233 [14:46] <xales> farandir: correct
#4234 [14:46] <Jstylen> No output from that
#4235 [14:46] <farandir> Xales: Ok. Thank you
#4236 [14:46] <paininflictor> xales yeah they really should do some type of java plugin support system for chrome
#4237 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Jstylen: did you run the server from the location in which the .jar is stored, or did you run it indirectly?
#4238 [14:47] <paininflictor> xales considering that most people are moving to it because its accelated browsing
#4239 [14:47] <Jstylen> I'm running it directly by double clicking the jar
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#4241 [14:47] <xales> Jstylen: running it that way is...bad
#4242 [14:47] <mikul> xales, http://pastebin.com/JDpK9eXS < thats what i get in the console
#4243 [14:47] <Jstylen> Excellent....
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#4245 [14:48] <Pr0geny> can't login, do i need to just keep trying?
#4246 [14:48] <xales> Pr0geny: yeah
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#4248 [14:48] <xales> mikul: that's strange...
#4249 [14:49] <xales> mikul: try installing sun java, not openjdk
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#4251 [14:49] <Pr0geny> thx.
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#4253 [14:49] <mikul> xales, i have that, but should i remove the openjdk?
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#4255 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> O,o
#4256 [14:49] <xales> dumbshit bot
#4257 [14:49] <xales> gah
#4258 [14:49] <Jstylen> So i should try running it through the console with something like "-Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui" rather than just opening it?
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#4260 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Yes Jstylen
#4261 [14:50] <blub> hey all
#4262 [14:50] <Zemedelphos> !isdown minecraft.net
#4263 [14:50] <GreyBot> Zemedelphos: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#4265 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> GreyBot: ?
#4266 [14:51] <xales> 14:50:51 <VoxelHead> Removed #MineCraftHelp channel ban: *!*@pool-74-110-201-24.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net
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#4268 [14:51] <xales> derp
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#4270 [14:51] <Zemedelphos> Greybot is a bot.
#4271 [14:51] <Zemedelphos> when you type ! floowed by isdown then a url, it tells you if it's down or not.
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#4273 [14:51] <Simooon> Hello everyone, I have a hamachi server but no one can connect to it apart from me? can anyone help?
#4274 [14:51] <Zemedelphos> followed*
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#4276 [14:52] <xales> Simooon: they also have to be using Hamachi
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#4278 [14:52] <xales> and on your network
#4279 [14:52] <xales> ?? fubar/hamachi
#4280 [14:52] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#4281 [14:52] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#4282 [14:52] <Simooon> they are
#4283 [14:52] <Simooon> on miune
#4284 [14:52] <Simooon> mine*
#4285 [14:52] <xales> see the fubar/hamachi above then
#4286 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> Simooon: stop using Enter as a comma.
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#4288 [14:53] <Simooon> sorry
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#4294 [14:53] <Pr0geny> stil trying to login :(
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#4299 [14:53] <quibbit> Hey. I downloaded this game yesterday and played it all dag long. When i started it today it updated to 1.3.0.1 and after that i cant collect any stone. annyone else having that problem ?
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#4303 [14:54] <mikul> xales, i have that, but should i remove the openjdk?
#4304 [14:54] <ItsCriminal> omg sorry
#4305 [14:54] <Cordless76> i can't connect to minecraft.net.. ?
#4306 [14:54] <xales> mikul: yeah
#4307 [14:54] <mikul> ok
#4308 [14:54] <xales> ?? mc.net/down
#4309 [14:54] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#4310 [14:54] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#4311 [14:54] <Cordless76> oki
#4312 [14:54] <paininflictor> quibbit singleplayer or multiplayer?
#4313 [14:54] <Jstylen> Ok. The files generated in that folder when I opened it through the console. It generated a new world too though. I don't mind starting over but I'm really wondering where the hell it put the world folder before... If I run the jar file by double clicking it from anywhere it brings up some magical world that doesn't seem to exist anywhere.
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#4315 [14:55] <wilma> hey, i got a question
#4316 [14:55] <xales> ?? ask
#4317 [14:55] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
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#4319 [14:55] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4320 [14:55] <wilma> why cant i log out on the minecraft page?
#4321 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> Jstylen: it's probably buried in ~/ or /tmp/ somewhere
#4322 [14:55] <wilma> i really need to do that
#4323 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> wilma: clear cookies.
#4324 [14:56] <wilma> thx^^ :) cya
#4325 [14:56] <Modz> Question : Is asking about modding minecraft against the rules in here?
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#4328 [14:56] <Zer0_BE> hi , I'm having a problem. My Minecraft level has just disappeared. I was playing it 10 minutes ago, but after I rebooted my computer, the level doesn't appear in the level list anymore. Anyone have any idea?
#4329 [14:56] <trondkla> Can't log in v 1.3
#4330 [14:56] <xales> trondkla: server is down
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#4332 [14:57] <xales> Zer0_BE: try opening it in a map editor and resaving it
#4333 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> Modz: asking isn't a problem, but no answers are guaranteed here and you will often get eredirected elsewhere
#4334 [14:57] <mcbens> hello
#4335 [14:57] <trondkla> xales: thanks, any timeframe? :)
#4336 [14:57] <xales> trondkla: nope
#4337 [14:57] <paininflictor> DopeGhoti i think there are going to be quite a few mod questions cause bukkit went down earlier lol
#4338 [14:57] <Modz> Well, I've followed every single step of any mods I've seen, but for some reason I'm getting nothing but a black screen now (Yes, I made sure that the new mods is v1.3 compatible), how do I figure out what I'm doing wrong?
#4339 [14:58] <Pr0geny> just bought minecraft, received confirmation email, can't login. Do I need to wait a while?
#4340 [14:58] <Modz> Dunno what bukkit is
#4341 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> Modz: what mod? Have you asked in its support channel?
#4342 [14:58] <Modz> Risugami's mods, I've only tried modloader
#4343 [14:58] <xales> Did you delete META-INF?
#4344 [14:58] <trondkla> Pr0geny: new release some days ago, server is up and down like a yoyo =/
#4345 [14:58] <mcbens> I cannot login to the game at all.
#4346 [14:58] <xales> mcbens: nobody can, it's down
#4347 [14:58] <Modz> Yes, I deleted META-INF
#4348 [14:58] <xales> Modz: ask in #risucraft
#4349 [14:59] <Zemedelphos> Xales: I'm in on the client
#4350 [14:59] <Zemedelphos> erm
#4351 [14:59] <Zemedelphos> browser
#4352 [14:59] <Modz> Ok, thanks, did not know they had their own channel
#4353 [14:59] <Zemedelphos> I mean
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#4357 [14:59] <Pr0geny> ty for the info
#4358 [14:59] <mib_emsl5e> has anyone managed to log in last hour client
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#4360 [14:59] <mib_emsl5e> i did this morning
#4361 [14:59] <mib_emsl5e> nothing for last two hours really are the servers down?
#4362 [15:00] <Jstylen> Alright well I'll scan the whole hard drive for server.properties just out of curiosity as to where it put the files. thanks for the help!
#4363 [15:00] <mib_20ks1a> yes via old client
#4364 [15:00] <Zemedelphos> No, mib. I also came to ask if there was any particular reason my client wouldn't connect, while my browswer would.
#4365 [15:00] <mikul> xales, now i dont get any applet... do i need anything more then sun-java6-jre ?
#4366 [15:00] <trondkla> Pr0geny: it will be fixed very soon, were stable before the update :)
#4367 [15:00] <mib_20ks1a> i was reading earlier how the new loader uses some new protocol for verifying usenames...
#4368 [15:00] <mib_emsl5e> i updated yesterday to 1.3
#4369 [15:00] <mib_emsl5e> wasnt workin last nite was this morning and now is not again lol
#4370 [15:00] <mib_20ks1a> so if you use the old loader it bypasses this... worked but on my mac...
#4371 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> "some noew protocol" being HTTPS
#4372 [15:01] <EMulawski> Logging in through the old client works.
#4373 [15:01] <Ridonk> so i take it others are also having trouble connecting through the new launcher?
#4374 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#4375 [15:01] <xales> mikul: make sure you have it selected in the alternatives thingy
#4376 [15:01] <mib_20ks1a> yeah its just the new launcher
#4377 [15:01] <xales> mikul: `man update-alternatives'
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#4380 [15:01] <paininflictor> im logged into minecraft right now, just exited and relogged in again, so its fine on my end but not sure whats going on elsewhere
#4381 [15:01] <Ridonk> anyway to download the old launcher?
#4382 [15:01] <xales> Ridonk: Not legally
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#4384 [15:02] <mib_emsl5e> anyway for me to get the old .jar for linux
#4385 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> ??> mikul java/linux/debia
#4386 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> ??> mikul java/linux/debian
#4387 [15:02] <True_Minecrafter> umm
#4388 [15:02] <VoxelHead> mikul: (java/linux/debian) While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#4389 [15:02] <xales> mib_emsl5e: nope
#4390 [15:02] <VoxelHead> mikul: (java/linux/debian) To install it, `sudo apt-get sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#4391 [15:02] <Ridonk> i keep getting a "can't connect to minecraft.net" error when trying to log in, but it's obvious that minecraft.net is up
#4392 [15:02] <mib_20ks1a> i bet its a result of people frantically trying to connect then disconnecting in the middle of verification... superspamming the servers...
#4393 [15:02] <Ridonk> and it seems to work on the site without error
#4394 [15:02] <True_Minecrafter> I wonder why people attack minecraft.
#4395 [15:02] <xales> Ridonk: the login servers aren't the same as minecraft.net
#4396 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Ridonk: that's the auth server it can't connect to
#4397 [15:02] <True_Minecrafter> Yeah
#4398 [15:02] <True_Minecrafter> I noticed that too
#4399 [15:02] <EMulawski> I have uploaded the old launcher here: http://skydrive.provanix.com/minecraft/Minecraft.exe
#4400 [15:03] <True_Minecrafter> Ok, I will try it soon
#4401 [15:03] <True_Minecrafter> I copied the link into my URL bar
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#4403 [15:03] <True_Minecrafter> Ill go to it soon.
#4404 [15:03] <True_Minecrafter> Or should I?
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#4406 [15:03] <True_Minecrafter> xales? Should I go to that link?
#4407 [15:03] <xales> True_Minecrafter: I wouldn't
#4408 [15:03] <True_Minecrafter> oh
#4409 [15:04] <mib_emsl5e> anyway for me to get the old .jar for linux
#4410 [15:04] <True_Minecrafter> xales I see what you mean now
#4411 [15:04] <Ridonk> any suggestions about how to get through?
#4412 [15:04] <xales> Ridonk: just wait
#4413 [15:04] <Ridonk> mk
#4414 [15:04] <xales> mib_emsl5e: Not legally
#4415 [15:04] <True_Minecrafter> I think in Beta you should be able to craft medicine
#4416 [15:04] <True_Minecrafter> Just a suggestion
#4417 [15:04] <Zemedelphos> Ture_Mine: I scanned it, so if you do go to it, it's safe.
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#4419 [15:04] <True_Minecrafter> I didnt
#4420 [15:04] <fogWraith> The old launcher does work fine for logging in, whilst the new launcher does not - HOWEVER, I would not trust any third party site offering the old launcher since it MAY contain trojans and what not
#4421 [15:04] <xales> True_Minecrafter: Food acts as medicine, more or less
#4422 [15:04] <mib_emsl5e> anyway for me to get the old .jar for linux??
#4423 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> True_Minecrafter: reddit.com/r/theshaft/
#4424 [15:04] <Zemedelphos> Just letting you know.
#4425 [15:04] <True_Minecrafter> oh, thanks.
#4426 [15:04] <xales> mib_emsl5e: I've already said, NO
#4427 [15:05] <True_Minecrafter> Im a new forumer
#4428 [15:05] <xales> mib_emsl5e: don't ask again
#4429 [15:05] <mib_emsl5e> so what should i do wait for an update?
#4430 [15:05] <xales> yes
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#4432 [15:05] <True_Minecrafter> Yeah.
#4433 [15:05] <mib_9p39pm> i cant open my old world it isnt avaible in the list -.-
#4434 [15:05] <mib_20ks1a> just got that guys minecraft...
#4435 [15:05] <fogWraith> Wait for an update or log in via the browser and play through that
#4436 [15:05] <mib_20ks1a> works for me
#4437 [15:05] <True_Minecrafter> I would say that is the smartest thing
#4438 [15:05] <mib_20ks1a> in min
#4439 [15:05] <mib_20ks1a> later
#4440 [15:05] <mib_20ks1a> im in*
#4441 [15:05] <Zemedelphos> I would play in the browser, but the browser version is laggy as hell for me, even on minimum settings
#4442 [15:05] <mib_9p39pm> why ist minecraft.net down i have patch 1.3
#4443 [15:06] <trondkla> xales: are you working for mojang?
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#4445 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> ??>> mib_9p39pm mc.net/down
#4446 [15:06] <xales> mib_9p39pm: world is probably corrupt - open it in a map editor and save it, that might fix it
#4447 [15:06] <True_Minecrafter> While your waiting for the update, do some youtubing, It really passes boredom.
#4448 [15:06] <xales> trondkla: no
#4449 [15:06] <rumpler> So, its down for everyone again?
#4450 [15:06] <True_Minecrafter> Oh ok :)
#4451 [15:06] <True_Minecrafter> Yes
#4452 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> rumpler: it's intermittent
#4453 [15:06] <True_Minecrafter> Thank god this server is moderated.
#4454 [15:06] <Zemedelphos> rumpler: the new client is unable to connect at times.
#4455 [15:06] <Zemedelphos> If you've save the old one, it will connect.
#4456 [15:06] <True_Minecrafter> Atleast its troll free;)
#4457 [15:06] <Zemedelphos> saved*
#4458 [15:06] <rumpler> Alrighty. Just bein sure. Thanks :P
#4459 [15:07] <mikul> xales, yeah :D got it to work :D thanks for the help.. realized i missed the sun-java6-plugin
#4460 [15:07] <xales> mikul: \o/
#4461 [15:07] <mikul> :D
#4462 [15:07] <Ridonk> it's ironic that after i confirmed that the new launcher worked and deleted the old one that this stopped working for me >_> lolz
#4463 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> True_Minecrafter: we do what we can
#4464 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> (because we must?)
#4465 [15:07] <mikul> d(-_-)b
#4466 [15:07] <True_Minecrafter> Invisible text
#4467 [15:07] <mib_9p39pm> pain
#4468 [15:08] <mib_9p39pm> need to make a movie .,.
#4469 [15:08] <mikul> but it dosent work in chrome.. have to take a look at that later
#4470 [15:08] <mikul> thanks though =)
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#4482 [15:11] <mib_9p39pm> need help plz my world is corrupted
#4483 [15:11] <EMulawski> @xales: Isn't "Do not distribute" reserved for the source code, not the launcher?
#4484 [15:12] <mib_9p39pm> and i cant fix it
#4485 [15:12] <xales> EMulawski: it covers all of it
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#4487 [15:12] <xales> EMulawski: it even says on the launcher itself, "do not distribute"
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#4489 [15:12] <xales> mib_9p39pm: open it in a map editor and resave it. you have already been told this
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#4491 [15:12] <mib_9p39pm> y u told me
#4492 [15:12] <mib_9p39pm> but no map editor
#4493 [15:12] <EMulawski> xales: Only after it loads the jars.
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#4495 [15:12] <mib_9p39pm> and my old is buggy
#4496 [15:13] <xales> then get a map editor...
#4497 [15:13] <mib_9p39pm> where ?
#4498 [15:13] <xales> try google.
#4499 [15:13] <mib_9p39pm> they are mostly outdated
#4500 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_9p39pm - Look up MCedit
#4501 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> It's fully patched and compatible with 1.3
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#4503 [15:14] <mib_9p39pm> i have mcedit but it seems that it buggy
#4504 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the latest version?
#4505 [15:14] <EMulawski> xales: Also, not to be a pain, but why should we have to wait to play a game we have already paid for because of a broken update?
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#4507 [15:14] <Ridonk> note: launching the game through mcpatcher's test function works fine
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#4509 [15:15] <espasmato> how many people can't connect....
#4510 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> EMulawski - Because when you paid for minecraft, you willingly paid for an incomplete, in-development game, knowing full well you were paying for a game that's unstable at best, and going through an active development cycle
#4511 [15:15] <mib_9p39pm> i and 999 million others
#4512 [15:16] <espasmato> all my friends are online
#4513 [15:16] <espasmato> lol
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#4516 [15:16] <EMulawski> GreyVulpine: Exactly my point. Why can't we provide our fellow players with the old launcher so they can play the game?
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#4519 [15:17] <mib_9p39pm> there is no new version of mcedit
#4520 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Because it's preferable that users get their game from an official, sanctioned source.
#4521 [15:17] <mib_9p39pm> 1.3 isnt avaible
#4522 [15:17] <mib_9p39pm> i search for it
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#4524 [15:17] <mizzi311> hi
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#4526 [15:18] <mizzi311> someone here?
#4527 [15:18] <mib_9p39pm> y
#4528 [15:18] <mib_9p39pm> but they are mostly afk
#4529 [15:18] <espasmato> many people here
#4530 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Look, I get it, and I'm not trying to be an ass. It's just against Notch's wishes that people use versions that weren't retreieved from an official source
#4531 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> retrieved*
#4532 [15:18] <mizzi311> ok i need some help
#4533 [15:18] <mib_9p39pm> ahahha
#4534 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> mizzi311, with?
#4535 [15:18] <mib_9p39pm> we have all problems didnt we ?
#4536 [15:19] <espasmato> me too lol but i dont think we can fix it
#4537 [15:19] <mizzi311> last night i worte an email with my problemes to the support
#4538 [15:19] <bread> .part
#4539 [15:19] <bread> :|
#4540 [15:19] <bread> lol
#4541 [15:19] <mizzi311> and nobody answers
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#4543 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> If you're getting the error of not being able to connect to minecraft.net, it's a known issue, and all you can do is wait.
#4544 [15:19] <mib_9p39pm> my map doesnt work but it seems to be that there is no time to fix it
#4545 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> mizzi311 - You don't realize how many emails are sent to support@mojang.com
#4546 [15:19] <xales> mib_9p39pm: you have already been told how to fix it
#4547 [15:19] <xales> you just don't want to do it
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#4549 [15:20] <mib_9p39pm> i want to do it
#4550 [15:20] <mib_9p39pm> but it doesnt work
#4551 [15:20] <mib_9p39pm> i tried and tried
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#4553 [15:20] <EMulawski> GreyVulpine: Wouldn't it be smart to keep the old launchers in a FileHippo-style list on the site?
#4554 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_9p39pm - Why doesn't it work? Can you open the file?
#4555 [15:20] <mib_9p39pm> and there is no new version of mcedit
#4556 [15:20] <mib_9p39pm> i search for it
#4557 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> mib_9p39pm: "your map"?
#4558 [15:20] <mib_9p39pm> mcedit for 1.3 isnt downloadable
#4559 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> EMulawski - First off, I'm not affilated with mojang. Suggestions like that belong at getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#4560 [15:21] <mizzi311> maybe but 2 days ago i bought minecraft. i got an email with my nickname and transactionid but if i want to reg on the hp there is an error that this user couldnt be found
#4561 [15:21] <mib_9p39pm> my map ?
#4562 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> EMulawski: No, it would not, becuase, again, they _clearly_ and _explicitly_ say "Do not distribute".
#4563 [15:21] <mizzi311> i want to change my password the same probleme
#4564 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> EMulawski: how much more clear can it be?
#4565 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Second, it easily promotes pirating, giving users that didn't pay, an easier way to play the game without paying for it
#4566 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Especially if they have an older version available.
#4567 [15:21] <aforbes> Is anyone else having problems logging in with the mac launcher? (the new one, running the 1.3.01 client) keep trying but getting "Can't connect"
#4568 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> aforbes mc.net/down
#4569 [15:22] <EMulawski> DopeGhoti: I'm talking about keeping a file history on minecraft.net, so you can download the older launchers if you have a problem.
#4570 [15:22] <VoxelHead> aforbes: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#4571 [15:22] <VoxelHead> aforbes: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#4572 [15:22] <mib_9p39pm> see mojang havent got many members who work for them so they have problems with the support
#4573 [15:22] <aforbes> Voxelhead: thanks
#4574 [15:22] <xales> mib_9p39pm: your map isn't their problem
#4575 [15:22] <xales> ?? irc/vh
#4576 [15:22] <VoxelHead> irc/vh: I am VoxelHead - a bot created to store information to be retrieved later, to assist in helping users.
#4577 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> EMulawski: If Mojang hosted the files themselves, great.
#4578 [15:22] <mizzi311> someone here who pays and you couldnt play or reg on the hp cuz, the usere couldnt be found?
#4579 [15:22] <xales> mizzi311: it's down, just wait a bit
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#4581 [15:23] <mib_9p39pm> why is my minecraft on version 1.3 and not 1.3.1 ?
#4582 [15:23] <xales> mib_9p39pm: because you didn't update it...
#4583 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Because 1.3 is the latest
#4584 [15:23] <mib_9p39pm> i bought it for month ago
#4585 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> isn't it?
#4586 [15:23] <mib_9p39pm> ähm no
#4587 [15:23] <xales> GreyVulpine: Nope
#4588 [15:23] <EMulawski> 1.3_01
#4589 [15:23] <mib_9p39pm> 1.3.01 someting like this
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#4591 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Ah, my mistake.
#4592 [15:23] <bamhm182> Hey. Is Minecraft still down for everyone?
#4593 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to successfully log into minecraft once for the update to push down to your computer
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#4595 [15:23] <espasmato> is for me
#4596 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Try logging in via the website instead of the client
#4597 [15:24] <mib_9p39pm> i dont no why but there seems to be a problem from converting the worlds
#4598 [15:24] <mizzi311> xales i cant reg on the hp or change my password cuz i cant be found or my nick or email couldnt be found
#4599 [15:24] <aforbes> down for me too
#4600 [15:24] <bamhm182> Lame, oh well, still works offline
#4601 [15:24] <mizzi311> i cant connect to client or hp
#4602 [15:24] <mizzi311> since 2 days
#4603 [15:24] <BurnZeZ> LG_Legacy: http://i.imgur.com/wZPmx.png
#4604 [15:24] <mizzi311> doesnt work
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#4606 [15:25] <mib_9p39pm> sometimes minecraft getting me on my nerves like when i stand in front of a lava pond and behind me is a creeper
#4607 [15:25] <LG_Legacy> Don't ping me.
#4608 [15:26] <BurnZeZ> I sent you a message.
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#4610 [15:26] <BurnZeZ> That's not ping.
#4611 [15:26] <bamhm182> So what's the purpose of having an account?
#4612 [15:26] <espasmato> to login?
#4613 [15:26] <BurnZeZ> Oh.
#4614 [15:26] <BurnZeZ> You mean highlight.
#4615 [15:26] <flabbergaster> The servers are down again I assume?
#4616 [15:26] <bamhm182> Yeah, like can it back up your games or something?
#4617 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes flabbergaster
#4618 [15:26] <espasmato> u can paly online
#4619 [15:26] <bamhm182> Or is it just like online play
#4620 [15:26] <flabbergaster> Okay.
#4621 [15:26] <bamhm182> Ah, alright
#4622 [15:26] <espasmato> not GreyVulpine some people can connect.
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#4624 [15:26] <espasmato> *no
#4625 [15:27] <mib_9p39pm> hmm i updatet minecraft but the world isnt repaired
#4626 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> bamhm182 - Paying gives you access to premium content, like the ability to play beta
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#4628 [15:27] <mib_9p39pm> and '****** mcedit doesnt work
#4629 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Also, access to customizing your skin
#4630 [15:27] <mizzi311> paying gives you a shit
#4631 [15:27] <MyvTeddy> is it me, or can anyone log into minecraft.net?
#4632 [15:27] <mib_9p39pm> grrrr
#4633 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> I can log into minecraft.net, the website, just fine
#4634 [15:27] <mib_9p39pm> this question
#4635 [15:27] <mizzi311> i payed 15$ and i cant play
#4636 [15:27] <MyvTeddy> what about in-game though?
#4637 [15:28] <MyvTeddy> through the launcher?
#4638 [15:28] <bamhm182> You can play offline
#4639 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Through the launcher, no
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#4641 [15:28] <mizzi311> i cant play
#4642 [15:28] <MyvTeddy> eee
#4643 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Try playing through the in-browser client
#4644 [15:28] <mizzi311> i cant reg on the hp
#4645 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> I jsut tried it here, works
#4646 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> just*
#4647 [15:28] <bamhm182> If you try to log in, it'll say "can't connect" then you click on Play Offline
#4648 [15:28] <mizzi311> cuz my 15$ account doesnt exist
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#4650 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> mizzi311 - Did you get a confirmation email for paying?
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#4652 [15:28] <bamhm182> Hmn…. When did you buy it?
#4653 [15:28] <mizzi311> yes
#4654 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Through... who?
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#4658 [15:29] <mib_9p39pm> so last time can someone help me and i dont mean mcedit mcedit doesnt load my world right. I couldnt see my World in the minecraft loading screen plz help me
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#4664 [15:29] <MyvTeddy> the browser sorta works
#4665 [15:29] <mizzi311> Minecraft purchase complete
#4666 [15:29] <MyvTeddy> it just crashes on me
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#4668 [15:29] <mib_9p39pm> so last time can someone help me and i dont mean mcedit mcedit doesnt load my world right. I couldnt see my World in the minecraft loading screen plz help me
#4669 [15:29] <MyvTeddy> actually minecraft crashes on me several times randomly :\
#4670 [15:29] <mizzi311> by mojang
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#4673 [15:29] <Mikau> You get an achievement for that, mizzi311
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#4678 [15:30] <mizzi311> ?
#4679 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> mizzi311 - Then send an email to payment@mojang.com with that and a short description of your probem
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#4681 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> problem*
#4682 [15:30] <mizzi311> i get a transactionid and my username
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#4684 [15:30] <mizzi311> and a mail from paypal
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#4686 [15:30] <Mikau> Minecraft needs achievements.
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#4688 [15:30] <Mikau> Specifically one for jumping on a creepers head
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#4691 [15:31] <the_late_man> no. that would ruin it.
#4692 [15:31] <EMulawski> What would the reward be?
#4693 [15:32] <mizzi311> Mikau ?
#4694 [15:32] <Shango|sogg> is their a new download for running 1.3 servers?
#4695 [15:32] <mizzi311> i dont understand
#4696 [15:32] <Mikau> The satisfaction of jumping on a creepers head isa reward in itself.
#4697 [15:32] <mizzi311> i got the mail that the purchase is complete
#4698 [15:32] <mizzi311> with nick and transaction id
#4699 [15:32] <EMulawski> Shango|sogg: The latest server version is 1.3
#4700 [15:32] <Shango|sogg> right
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#4702 [15:33] <mib_9p39pm> the latest version is 1.3_01
#4703 [15:33] <red6> Any idea whats going on at the moment? i havent been able to log into the game since yesterday night and now the website thinks my password is wrong aswell
#4704 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> Achievements are semiconfirmed for a future Minecarft update anyhow, the_late_man; Mikau.
#4705 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> red6 - Try a password recovery?
#4706 [15:33] <mizzi311> but i cant reg on server and hp cuz my account doesnt exist and my email too but thats impossible
#4707 [15:33] <Shango|sogg> i just updead my client but my buddy is hosting the server and i cant connect to it. gives me a message saying "outdated server"
#4708 [15:33] <dark12222000> Login server is down for me as well. Any ideas? Any other people with the same issue?
#4709 [15:33] * the_late_man facepalms
#4709 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> mizzi311 - Send an email to payment@mojang.com
#4710 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> ??> red6 mc.net/down
#4711 [15:33] <VoxelHead> red6: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#4712 [15:33] <VoxelHead> red6: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#4713 [15:33] <dark12222000> thanks
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#4718 [15:34] <mib_9p39pm> ahhh this ***** getting me on my nerves
#4719 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> dark12222000 - Try using the in-browser client at minecraft.net
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#4721 [15:34] <red6> Ok, so mine.net is down no problem, been a while but np, but dont understand why after a pw change (which i knew in the first place and said is wrong) is now sayings its wrong online aswell :/
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#4723 [15:34] <mizzi311> GreyVulpine with? cuz i wrote an mail to the support?
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#4725 [15:34] <Parfait> lol started happening when i bought the game last night <_<
#4726 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> mizzi311 - With proof of payment, your minecraft username, when you bought it, and a description of your problem
#4727 [15:35] <dark12222000> victory. Thanks GreyVulpine
#4728 [15:35] <red6> Is there a delay in it changing PW on website after the reset? as my old one now suddenly works again?
#4729 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> red6 - Heh, then ignor eit
#4730 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> ignore it*
#4731 [15:35] <red6> ok
#4732 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing dark12222000.
#4733 [15:35] <killergut> where can i find .minecraft/bin
#4734 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> killergut - What OS?
#4735 [15:36] <killergut> microsoft
#4736 [15:36] <killergut> im in the ap ting
#4737 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> ??> killergut win/.minecraft
#4738 [15:36] <VoxelHead> killergut: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#4739 [15:36] <killergut> ah the minecraft folder?
#4740 [15:36] <Shango|sogg> so if i was to be hosting a server is there a new 1.3 file? my client is 1.3 but keep getting a "outdated server" error message.
#4741 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#4743 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Shango|sogg - Your server should still be running 1.3
#4744 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Works with 1.3_01 clients as well
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#4746 [15:38] <mib_9p39pm> hey
#4747 [15:38] <myr> server down?
#4748 [15:38] <mib_9p39pm> could someone help me
#4749 [15:38] <Flensbenny> Hey, i got a problem with loggin in on the new client. it keeps saying "Can't connect to minecraft.net" everytime i type in my acc/pass
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#4751 [15:38] <myr> i cannot connect
#4752 [15:38] <mib_9p39pm> my mcedit isnt functional
#4753 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Flensbenny - The authentication server is overloaded, try the in-browser version at minecraft.net
#4754 [15:38] <killergut> ok sorry im confused what is the win/.minecraft
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#4759 [15:39] <Flensbenny> Ok, but when will it be functional again?
#4760 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> killergut - That's the directions on how to get to .minecraft/bin
#4761 [15:39] <mib_9p39pm> hello ?
#4762 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Flensbenny - We can't give you an ETA
#4763 [15:39] <mib_9p39pm> plz help me
#4764 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> We don't know
#4765 [15:39] <shokora> it's broken for everyone i assume?
#4766 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes shokora
#4767 [15:39] <Kealper> o.o
#4768 [15:39] <shokora> ok
#4769 [15:39] <Flensbenny> Ok, are we talking weeks or days?
#4770 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> mib_9p39pm: "your mcedit" isn't working? Do you have some special mcedit?
#4771 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Flensbenny - We don't know.
#4772 [15:39] <EMulawski> killergut: C:\Users\MyUsername\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
#4773 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> Flensbenny: hopefully hours
#4774 [15:39] <Kealper> Newegg rocks....headphones are here today...ordered them monday afternoon
#4775 [15:39] <shokora> weeks? o_O xD
#4776 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Awesome
#4777 [15:39] <Flensbenny> Ok, nice!
#4778 [15:40] <mib_9p39pm> i dont mean my mcedit
#4779 [15:40] <shokora> would be pretty drastic error if it'd cost weeks :P
#4780 [15:40] <mib_9p39pm> i use mcedit and it doesnt work
#4781 [15:40] <mib_9p39pm> i would open up a world
#4782 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> mib_9p39pm: anything to do with viewing or editing map or save files _will not work_ until they accomodate the new format.
#4783 [15:40] <Shango|sogg> well the server im running is 1.2_01 where can i get the 1.3 server?:O
#4784 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - MCedit's been updated for 1.3 already
#4785 [15:40] <EMulawski> minecraft.net/download.jsp
#4786 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> !server
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#4789 [15:41] <mib_9p39pm> huh mcedit was updatet ?
#4790 [15:41] <Programme2> Yeah.
#4791 [15:41] <mib_9p39pm> were i can get the new version i search for it
#4792 [15:41] <mib_9p39pm> but i could not find anything
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#4795 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> MCEdit should say there's a new version in the upper left corner when you launch it
#4796 [15:41] <killergut> i cant find the appdata folder
#4797 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, the newest MCedit is alpha82
#4798 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> killergut - On your keyboard, do you have a windows key
#4799 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> It should be between ctrl and alt
#4800 [15:42] <shokora> can't there be like a version, where you don't necessarily have to login? :P
#4801 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> lower left
#4802 [15:42] <mib_9p39pm> ahh ssee
#4803 [15:42] <killergut> yes
#4804 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> killergut - Press your windows+R key
#4805 [15:42] <killergut> so that +r
#4806 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Then, in the run command, type in: %appdata%
#4807 [15:42] <killergut> then appdata thing and browse
#4808 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#4810 [15:42] <EMulawski> MCEdit: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#4811 [15:42] <killergut> ok im in that
#4812 [15:42] <mizzi311> GreyVulpine i hope they answer soon
#4813 [15:42] <Kristina12> Anyone else having an issue on Mac with not being able to connect?
#4814 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> killergut - Do you see the .minecraft folder
#4815 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> ??>> win/key
#4816 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> It might be inside a roaming folder
#4817 [15:43] <BurnZeZ> Who here has average contact with the Mojang team?
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#4819 [15:43] <mizzi311> GreyVulpine cuz i wont pay 15$ and i cant play
#4820 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> mizzi311 - I understand, and there's quite a few people with problems.
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#4822 [15:44] <Kristina12> No one? ):
#4823 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Kristina12 - Did you update minecraft yet?
#4824 [15:44] <Kristina12> Yep
#4825 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Using 1.3_01?
#4826 [15:44] <Kristina12> It worked earlier, now it wont connect lol
#4827 [15:44] <BurnZeZ> Where's Miclee when you need him. :}
#4828 [15:44] <BurnZeZ> ;|*
#4829 [15:44] <EMulawski> Kristina12: Nobody can connect with the new launcher. You need to play offline.
#4830 [15:44] <BurnZeZ> I fail today.
#4831 [15:44] <Kristina12> Ah okay, thanks
#4832 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Try updating via the in-browser client if you haven't already
#4833 [15:44] <Kristina12> Okay, thanks
#4834 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> The mac issue should be fixed with _01
#4835 [15:44] <killergut> ugh i dont seem to be able to find it.
#4836 [15:45] <EMulawski> killergut: Downloads page: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15522#p271802
#4837 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> killergut - Are you looking for .minecraft? With the period at the beginning?
#4838 [15:45] <killergut> ye the .minecraft/bin
#4839 [15:45] <killergut> thats what im looking for
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#4841 [15:45] <Kristina12> well the fist mac issue I had was fixed
#4842 [15:45] <Kristina12> but now idk
#4843 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> It should be there, at %appdata%
#4844 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a roaming folder killergut?
#4845 [15:45] <EMulawski> killergut: Windows 7?
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#4847 [15:46] <killergut> oh found it lol xD
#4848 [15:46] <killergut> i was clicking browse
#4849 [15:46] <killergut> not ok
#4850 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> killergut: that'd do it
#4851 [15:46] <killergut> *shoots self in hand*
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#4854 [15:47] <mib_1xea4j> I'm having trouble connecting to minecraft via the client. ]:
#4855 [15:47] <mib_1xea4j> In-browser works though.
#4856 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_1xea4j - The authentication server is overloaded, just use the in-browser one for now
#4857 [15:47] <EMulawski> mib_1xea4j: Or with an older launcher, if you have one.
#4858 [15:48] <mib_1xea4j> Naw, I have the newer one.
#4859 [15:48] <mib_1xea4j> So I just have to wait later in the day?
#4860 [15:48] <tingnicke> I have a problem with Minecraft. It works just fine for a minute or two but then it all freezes up my whole computer and if im lucky I won't get blue screen. Is this because of my computer being too bad or is it something else? I got Windows XP, AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor. 2.20GHz, 1,00GB RAM(Too Low?)
#4861 [15:48] <EMulawski> Whenever it's fixed it will work. :)
#4862 [15:48] <mib_1xea4j> Sweet. Thank you guys. :]
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#4865 [15:49] <EMulawski> tingnicke: What version of Minecraft?
#4866 [15:49] <schnozzle> the server is still down?
#4867 [15:49] <schnozzle> MC login server?
#4868 [15:49] <tingnicke> 1.3_01
#4869 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Yes, for now, try using the in-browser client
#4870 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> tingnicke: Probably; Minecraft itself allocates 1GB of RAM; if that's all your computer has, you're going to be in a bad way.
#4871 [15:49] <schnozzle> Ok
#4872 [15:50] <mib_9p39pm> wuwuwuuwuwuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
#4873 [15:50] <mib_9p39pm> i made it
#4874 [15:50] <tingnicke> Alright. So my solution would be to buy myself a new computer?
#4875 [15:50] <mib_9p39pm> it works fine
#4876 [15:50] <mib_9p39pm> wuuuuu
#4877 [15:50] <EMulawski> Yeah, the minimum RAM is 0.95GB. You are exhausting your VRAM and the memory the OS uses.
#4878 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_9p39pm - Glad to hear it
#4879 [15:50] <mib_9p39pm> now i must wait till tomorrow to get missas
#4880 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> tingnicke: or jsut.. get more RAM.
#4881 [15:51] <tingnicke> I suck with computer, how do you get more RAM? ^^
#4882 [15:51] <schnozzle> Wow minecraft server uptime is hardly 80% now
#4883 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> You buy it at a store
#4884 [15:51] <Shango|sogg> lol
#4885 [15:51] <mib_9p39pm> thanks guys n1 support here too
#4886 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Have computer techs there install it for you for 80 bucks an hour
#4887 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Or do it yourself
#4888 [15:51] <Shango|sogg> and i thought geeksquad was a joke
#4889 [15:51] <Shango|sogg> ;p
#4890 [15:51] <schnozzle> installing ram is just taking something out and putting something in
#4891 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> :P
#4892 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> tingnicke: Google for CPU-Z, run it, write down what kind of RAM your computer has, take that to a store like Fry's Electronics or Best Buy, and hand it to a resident salesmonkey.
#4893 [15:52] <schnozzle> its really yesasy
#4894 [15:52] <shokora> just a quick question, why does minecraft need so much vga powar? there might be a lot of blocks, but since all of them are just 6 polygons with a simple-texture and no mapping there is probably more complexity in a single charactermodel in most games than in a whole room in minecraft :P
#4895 [15:52] <shokora> wow that was a long sentence
#4896 [15:52] <tingnicke> alright. thanks alot guys :)
#4897 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> shokora retro
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#4899 [15:52] <VoxelHead> shokora: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#4900 [15:52] <VoxelHead> shokora: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#4901 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> shokora - Do you realize how many blocks are in a chunk?
#4902 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> A single chunk has more vertices than a player model
#4903 [15:53] <espasmato> is the unable to connect to minecraft.net still happening?
#4904 [15:53] <schnozzle> STOP RAGING ON SHOKORA
#4905 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> espasmato: yes.
#4906 [15:53] <espasmato> kk
#4907 [15:53] <shokora> i'm not sure what you mean by chunk? :P
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#4909 [15:53] <espasmato> just checkin since im in SP
#4910 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: who's raging?
#4911 [15:53] <schnozzle> ME
#4912 [15:53] <TheDoudou_a> hi
#4913 [15:53] <schnozzle> confused yet?
#4914 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> a chunk is a single map element of minecraft, a group of 16x16x128 blocks
#4915 [15:53] <shokora> ok
#4916 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> 9x9 chunks are loaded around a player at any one time
#4917 [15:53] <shokora> and those have to be rendered all at once by the GPU? o_O
#4918 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#4919 [15:53] <shokora> why?
#4920 [15:54] <Shango|sogg> its a java game?
#4921 [15:54] <SkiingPenguins> 'cause that's how it's done
#4922 [15:54] <Kealper> because that'show games work
#4923 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> So that you can see the terrain around you?
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#4926 [15:55] <shokora> hm, i get the point if all the blocks are truly rendered as blocks even from far away
#4927 [15:55] <BurnZeZ> So who should I tell if I know a website is distributing a cracked version of minecraft?
#4928 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> They are
#4929 [15:55] <SirWadle> My client keeps failing to login, is it just me, or is everyone having this issue?
#4930 [15:55] <Kealper> BurnZeZ: one of us
#4931 [15:55] <schnozzle> everyonb
#4932 [15:55] <Shango|sogg> lol
#4933 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> SirWadle - Not just you
#4934 [15:55] <BurnZeZ> schnozzle: Fail.
#4935 [15:55] <shokora> any reason for that? :P
#4936 [15:55] <espasmato> SirWadle: everyone is pretty much
#4937 [15:55] <schnozzle> minecraft should be proud to have <75% uptime
#4938 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> shokora - It's how minecraft is coded
#4939 [15:55] <SirWadle> Bummer :(
#4940 [15:56] <shokora> that's not really a reason, merely a restating of the problem :P
#4941 [15:56] <Shango|sogg> you dont like it, make your own game
#4942 [15:56] <Shango|sogg> ;p
#4943 [15:56] <schnozzle> i feel sorry for people buying the game b/c they cant connect to smp
#4944 [15:56] <shokora> not trying to bitch on anybody here btw :P just informing myself
#4945 [15:56] <schnozzle> Shango, the thing is that I paid for something
#4946 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> shokora: It's a fundamental part of the design- the map is in a constant state of flux, unlike, say, Counterstrike, there the map is a constant known by the server and client _not_ to ever change
#4947 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> shokora - No other game has a completely destructible "lego" environment, there's no "less rendering of the environment" from far away, it doesn't make sense
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#4949 [15:56] <schnozzle> like, they shouldnt pur it in beta yet
#4950 [15:57] <Shango|sogg> you paid 15% not 400k on a new house
#4951 [15:57] <Shango|sogg> people wont kiss your rump
#4952 [15:57] <schnozzle> then it shouldnt be in beta
#4953 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Each block is a block. Not a pixel to be rendered
#4954 [15:57] <Shango|sogg> you have probly paid more for a 2 hour movie that sucked
#4955 [15:57] <BurnZeZ> Shango|sogg: This.
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#4957 [15:57] <schnozzle> Nether in SMP is broken, server uptime is 75%
#4958 [15:57] <Shango|sogg> its worth the wait
#4959 [15:57] <schnozzle> im just sayin
#4960 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Why shouldn't it? Notch is releasing minecraft during development, so people can play before it's actually out
#4961 [15:57] <schnozzle> dont put it in beta
#4962 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> People buy it, knowing this
#4963 [15:57] <Zuty> Hi, I try to get on Minecraft and it says 'Play Offline' :<
#4964 [15:58] <BurnZeZ> GreyVulpine: Also the cheaper price.
#4965 [15:58] <shokora> still, it was your decisiion to pay for a game in beta status
#4966 [15:58] <Shango|sogg> thats why its BETA not final release
#4967 [15:58] <Shango|sogg> ;)
#4968 [15:58] <shokora> if it doesn't work all the time
#4969 [15:58] <EMulawski> Nobody can connect with the new launcher. You need to play offline.
#4970 [15:58] <shokora> deal with it
#4971 [15:58] <schnozzle> yeah. thats not my point. nut muched was fixed when moved into beta
#4972 [15:58] <BurnZeZ> Oh.
#4973 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: if you don't want unreliable software, don't buy it before it's done.
#4974 [15:58] <BurnZeZ> It's the new launcher?
#4975 [15:58] <Zuty> Yes, new launcher.
#4976 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> schnozzle - Actually, quite a lot was fixed when it was moved into beta.
#4977 [15:58] <BurnZeZ> ...
#4978 [15:58] <BurnZeZ> Crap.
#4979 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> For one, the website works now, instead of just timing out
#4980 [15:58] <BurnZeZ> Is the old launcher still up?
#4981 [15:58] <schnozzle> I just hope they fix other things soon
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#4983 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> BurnZeZ: sadly, no
#4984 [15:58] <Shango|sogg> i think they have achived alot in the last few months even with notch taking his vacation spree:P
#4985 [15:59] <schnozzle> i like the beds btw
#4986 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> It was much, MUCH worse before beta
#4987 [15:59] <schnozzle> theyre pretty cool
#4988 [15:59] <shokora> erhm btw DopeGhoti on the flux thing you said, that's not really a valid reason, since the interactions of the blocks you are not saying don't really need to be calculated by the GPU in real time :P
#4989 [15:59] <EMulawski> Zuty: Nobody can connect with the new launcher. You need to play offline or use an older launcher.
#4990 [15:59] <BurnZeZ> Maybe I have the old launcher somewhere
#4991 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> or use the in-browser version
#4992 [15:59] <Zuty> :<
#4993 [15:59] <BurnZeZ> Is it okay for me to re-upload the old launcher somewhere for other people if I find it?
#4994 [15:59] <schnozzle> I can connect with the new launcher, but only like every 4 hours
#4995 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> No BurnZeZ
#4996 [15:59] <Reiper> I'm having a problem updating! Happens all the time. The download stops at 9% or so. Anyone with any ideas why?
#4997 [15:59] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#4998 [15:59] <BurnZeZ> Why is that?
#4999 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> shokora: it means that the vertex map cannot be cached.
#5000 [16:00] <shokora> if something is far away, there is no reason for it to be equally rendered as something up close, that doesn't change the interaction you can have with it
#5001 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> BurnZeZ: no. No it is not.
#5002 [16:00] <Kealper> BurnZeZ: says right on the game not to distribute it :/
#5003 [16:00] <BurnZeZ> Huh?
#5004 [16:00] <EMulawski> I have already had this conversation, BurnZeZ. Don't bother.
#5005 [16:00] <shokora> it does mean the coding would probably get a lot more complicated o.o
#5006 [16:00] <BurnZeZ> I thought that was gamefile related.
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#5008 [16:00] <BurnZeZ> Not related the the launcher.exe
#5009 [16:00] <BurnZeZ> to*
#5010 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> BurnZeZ: it's both.
#5011 [16:00] <schnozzle> It is an open source license, you cant make money off it i thought
#5012 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> shokora - if you wanted rendering to only happen close to the player, that's what the fog setting is for
#5013 [16:00] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: Ah.
#5014 [16:00] <schnozzle> ir bukkit and stuff would be illegal
#5015 [16:00] <Kealper> BurnZeZ: yeah, but it's best to play it safe than to have a lawyer at your door :/
#5016 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: Minecraft is not under any sort of OSS license.
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#5018 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: I"m not sure where you got that idea.
#5019 [16:01] <schnozzle> ok so then it cant be illegal
#5020 [16:01] <BurnZeZ> Kealper: Assuming Notch would sue a helpful community member.
#5021 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: I'm also not sure where you got _that_ idea.
#5022 [16:01] <mizzi311> :-!
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#5024 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Windows isn't Open Source, so it can't be illegal to give away old version
#5025 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> s
#5026 [16:02] <Kealper> BurnZeZ: another issue with distributing it....no one knows how much longer the old (insecure) auth stuff will last :/
#5027 [16:02] <BurnZeZ> True.
#5028 [16:02] <mizzi311> I WANNA PLAY MINECRAFT!
#5029 [16:02] <schnozzle> Funny how Amazon's servers are overloaded b/c of minecraft
#5030 [16:02] <mizzi311> :'(
#5031 [16:02] <Kealper> mizzi311: nowai!
#5032 [16:02] <EMulawski> But with Windows, you can give the software, just not the license.
#5033 [16:02] <mizzi311> :D
#5034 [16:03] <schnozzle> r
#5035 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Bulk/volume licensing
#5036 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> People do it all the time, doesn't make it legal
#5037 [16:03] <BurnZeZ> I have 40 million backups.
#5038 [16:03] <BurnZeZ> I just never thought to backup the launcher.
#5039 [16:03] <BurnZeZ> :(
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#5041 [16:03] <mizzi311> i thought i can catch some officials here
#5042 [16:03] <Kealper> that sandwich was good...but not filling enough....I NEED MOAR FUD
#5043 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> I feel for the poor mojang official that needs to be in here.
#5044 [16:04] <Kealper> mizzi311: i'm not official enough? :<
#5045 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> Speaking of food, I'll leave this trollfest to the rest of you
#5046 [16:04] * GreyVulpine waves to DopeGhoti
#5046 [16:04] * DopeGhoti goes to get lunch
#5046 [16:04] <Jockis> I'm having problems logging in through the minecraft launcher... Can I get help here?
#5047 [16:04] <mizzi311> ok
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#5049 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - Try the in-browser version
#5050 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> The client version's authentication server is overloaded
#5051 [16:04] <mizzi311> Kealper why your hp says Couldn't find that user.
#5052 [16:04] <Jockis> GreyVulpine: In browser works, but I have been having these problems for several weeks now
#5053 [16:04] <schnozzle> so my java for chrome in ubuntu is broken
#5054 [16:04] <schnozzle> sucks.
#5055 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - Several weeks?
#5056 [16:05] <Jockis> Yes
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#5058 [16:05] <Kealper> mizzi311: my hp? sorry, not sure i understand what you meant :/
#5059 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - This latest issue is just because they switched to a new client, using SSL for securing logins
#5060 [16:05] <mizzi311> Kealper www.minecraft.net
#5061 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> What issue have you had before Jockis?
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#5063 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> This issue is only a day or two old
#5064 [16:06] <BurnZeZ> Wait.
#5065 [16:06] <Jockis> GreyVulpine: It varies, in the beginning it simply told me "login failed"
#5066 [16:06] <BurnZeZ> In browser works...
#5067 [16:06] <BurnZeZ> I can update with my browser then.
#5068 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> BurnZeZ - No SSL on browser
#5069 [16:06] <Jockis> Lately I have been getting "User not premium" errors as well
#5070 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes BurnZeZ
#5071 [16:06] <Kealper> mizzi311: for logging in to the site? are you sure you are using the correct username>
#5072 [16:06] <BurnZeZ> Awesome.
#5073 [16:06] <Kealper> ?*
#5074 [16:06] <mizzi311> Kealper i got the purchase email with nick and transaction id
#5075 [16:06] <Jockis> But yes, I can log in to minecraft.net without problems
#5076 [16:06] <schnozzle> i cant
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#5078 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - Well, I'd just use that for now, and hold off on the client until this issue blows over
#5079 [16:07] <schnozzle> this is fail
#5080 [16:07] <Kealper> mizzi311: what is the exact error it gives when you go to log in? just couldn't find user?
#5081 [16:07] <mizzi311> Kealper Hi mizzi311, Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! To play the game, visit http://www.minecraft.net/ and either download the game, or play it directly in your web browser. Your user name is mizzi311 Your transaction ID is 8JC43246CA063702J If you ever forget your password, or want to change it, you can request a new one here: http://www.minecraft.net/
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#5083 [16:07] <mizzi311> so my nick is mizzi311
#5084 [16:07] <Jackson413> hey dudes is anyone having probs with connecting to minecraft?
#5085 [16:07] <Jockis> GreyVulpine: Well, I thought so as well... But It's been around for quite a while, and the update did nothing
#5086 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Yes
#5087 [16:07] <schnozzle> great job, posting your transaction id
#5088 [16:07] <Kealper> !paid mizzi311
#5089 [16:07] <Kealper> hmm....
#5090 [16:07] <Jackson413> GreyVulpine: sweet its not just me then
#5091 [16:08] <BurnZeZ> GreyVulpine: Somebody posted the old launcher on the support board in the forums.
#5092 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Try the in-browser version for now
#5093 [16:08] <BurnZeZ> !paid BurnZeZ
#5094 [16:08] <BurnZeZ> Woo. :D
#5095 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> BurnZeZ - Good for them.
#5096 [16:08] <schnozzle> !paid
#5097 [16:08] <Kealper> mizzi311: how long ago was this?
#5098 [16:08] <dopeghoti> BurnZeZ: that post should be reported and purged.
#5099 [16:08] <espasmato> !paid espasmato
#5100 [16:08] <espasmato> woot
#5101 [16:08] <Kealper> !disable
#5102 [16:08] <Jackson413> hahaha
#5103 [16:08] <mizzi311> Kealper 2 days ago
#5104 [16:08] <Jackson413> lmao
#5105 [16:08] <schnozzle> lol
#5106 [16:09] <Kealper> mizzi311: definately requires someone cooler than me to fix, send an email to daniel@mojang.com with your username and transaction id in it, and state the issue you have :/
#5107 [16:09] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=191954
#5108 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - We can direct them back to payment@ now
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#5110 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> They instituted a new support ticket system
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#5113 [16:10] <Kealper> oh, that is actually checked now?
#5114 [16:10] <Kealper> amazing
#5115 [16:10] <BurnZeZ> The GetSatisfaction thing?
#5116 [16:10] <BurnZeZ> Or something new?
#5117 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Something new
#5118 [16:10] <BurnZeZ> Link?
#5119 [16:10] <Kealper> gonna have to get out of the habbit of typing daniel@mojang.com then lol
#5120 [16:10] <Kealper> BurnZeZ: their own backend thing
#5121 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/2011/02/22/a-new-daniel-and-a-new-support-system/
#5122 [16:11] <BurnZeZ> Thanks.
#5123 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> From now on we will be using Zendesk which has a ticket support system. Hopefully this will make the support much more efficient.
#5124 [16:11] <jackknrsh7> hey guys. More server problems. I can log in fine using local host, but others get a timeout when trying to connect. ip is 71.224.38.208
#5125 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Daniel - "I know that I have told people to email me directly if they have had issues before, but this is not needed anymore since we have some new support personnel helping us with the account/payment issues :)"
#5126 [16:11] <Kealper> \o/
#5127 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> jackknrsh7 - Port forwarded? Firewalls configured?
#5128 [16:11] <jackknrsh7> yep and yep
#5129 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Rechecked configuration?
#5130 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Has this worked before?
#5131 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Or just new?
#5132 [16:11] <jackknrsh7> no, i will recheck, this just started happening today
#5133 [16:12] <jackknrsh7> but the abyss problem went away ;)(
#5134 [16:12] <mizzi311> Kealper ok i wrote him an emai
#5135 [16:12] <Jockis> Could an op do that "!paid" thing on me? Just want to be sure I'm not getting my username wrong...
#5136 [16:12] <Kealper> mizzi311: he should get back to you and clean up this situation either later today or tomorow...not sure if he is still at Mojang right now or not
#5137 [16:12] <Kealper> !enable
#5138 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> !paid jockis
#5139 [16:13] <jackknrsh7> wait, when i port forward, what should the destination ip be?
#5140 [16:13] <mizzi311> Kealper ok thx
#5141 [16:13] <Jockis> Thanks
#5142 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> The internal NAT ip of the computer
#5143 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Usually 192.168.x.y
#5144 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Or 10.x.y.z
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#5146 [16:13] <jackknrsh7> how can i figure that out?
#5147 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the OS
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#5149 [16:13] <Kealper> or 172.16.x.y
#5150 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I never see that
#5151 [16:13] <jackknrsh7> i have it at 192.168.1.100
#5152 [16:13] <jackknrsh7> and windows 7 os
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#5154 [16:13] <Kealper> i think i've seen it once, and i shit bricks when i did lol
#5155 [16:13] <jackknrsh7> ipconfig right?
#5156 [16:13] <Dravenable> hey, could somebody explain me why my server says "Outdated Server"?
#5157 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Windows+R key to bring up the run command
#5158 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> ipconfig at command prompt
#5159 [16:14] <Kealper> yes jackknrsh7
#5160 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#5161 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> ipv4 address of that computer
#5162 [16:14] <jackknrsh7> flashes then leaves
#5163 [16:14] <Kealper> Dravenable: did you update your server?
#5164 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Dravenable - You need to manually update your server
#5165 [16:14] <Dravenable> how?
#5166 [16:14] <Kealper> Dravenable: are you using Bukkit?
#5167 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the binary at
#5168 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> !server
#5169 [16:14] <Dravenable> nop hmod
#5170 [16:14] <Kealper> ehh...hMod....
#5171 [16:14] <Kealper> i doubt that someone will update it for this version
#5172 [16:15] <Dravenable> why?
#5173 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> hmod has been discontinued
#5174 [16:15] <jackknrsh7> my ipconfig goes away immediately after opening, i cant read it
#5175 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> jackknrsh7 - Try "cmd" at the run command
#5176 [16:15] <jackknrsh7> nvm got it
#5177 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Then, "ipconfig"
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#5180 [16:15] <Dravenable> if i downloaded the newest server update, then should i update hmod to?
#5181 [16:16] <Dravenable> and iconomy to?
#5182 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Dravenable - You don't use hmod
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#5184 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit
#5185 [16:16] <schnozzle> HMOD IS DISCONTINUED
#5186 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> It's what the devs of hmod moved on to
#5187 [16:16] <Kealper> /join #bukkit
#5188 [16:16] <Dravenable> do you has a link of bukkit?
#5189 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> #bukkit
#5190 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> /join #bukkit
#5191 [16:16] <Kealper> type /join #bukkit
#5192 [16:16] <schnozzle> click on it
#5193 [16:16] <jackknrsh7> ok, they were different, 101 not 100. so that should be it right?
#5194 [16:16] <August_Dantes> I'd hate to be a pest, but I've literally just purchased the game and can't get it to start - an error pops up each time I attempt to =/
#5195 [16:17] <espasmato> no one can join
#5196 [16:17] <schnozzle> August
#5197 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> August_Dantes - First off, are you using the client?
#5198 [16:17] <Bozza> Hi, I suspect that people have already asked about this, but, is anyone having trouble logging in?
#5199 [16:17] <jackknrsh7> fixed. thanks everyone
#5200 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes Bozza
#5201 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> For now, use the in-browser version. The client's auth server is overloaded
#5202 [16:17] <August_Dantes> THe browser one? Yea - tried to DL it to the computer as well
#5203 [16:17] <Bozza> Ah, ok
#5204 [16:17] <schnozzle> August, have fun trying tho play, the server for login is down mostly
#5205 [16:17] <August_Dantes> ahhh kk
#5206 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> The in-browser client works, the downloaded client doesn't yet
#5207 [16:18] <August_Dantes> that's ignorance on my part, sorry abotu that ><
#5208 [16:18] <Shango|sogg> odd becasue im using the downloaded client
#5209 [16:18] <Shango|sogg> and logging in just fine
#5210 [16:18] <Shango|sogg> ;O
#5211 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> The old client works
#5212 [16:18] <Bozza> =p
#5213 [16:18] <August_Dantes> hahaha
#5214 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> the new one doesn't
#5215 [16:18] <August_Dantes> Well that's a doozie
#5216 [16:18] <August_Dantes> On my end, niether wants to work for me, even the browser embedded one
#5217 [16:18] <August_Dantes> I get a strange error
#5218 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#5219 [16:19] <August_Dantes> hmmm... lemme check again
#5220 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Can you pastebin.com it, if it's long?
#5221 [16:19] <August_Dantes> yea sure
#5222 [16:19] <Bozza> Also, does anyone have an issue with their client going completely black and Java crashing?
#5223 [16:19] <schnozzle> browser is broken for me
#5224 [16:19] <Dravenable> they arent even listning to me in that channel!!
#5225 [16:19] <schnozzle> this sucks
#5226 [16:19] <schnozzle> !
#5227 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Dravenable - Wait a bit, and ask again
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#5229 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> There's over 400 people in there.
#5230 [16:19] <Dravenable> k
#5231 [16:19] <bamhm182> Does anyone know if you can copy the save from Windows to OS X?
#5232 [16:20] <August_Dantes> Bozza, thats eXACTLY whats happeneing to me
#5233 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes bamhm182
#5234 [16:20] <bamhm182> Fantastic. Thanks TVulpine
#5235 [16:20] <bamhm182> *Vulpine
#5236 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> August_Dantes, Bozza - Then try reinstalling java?
#5237 [16:20] <Bozza> Already have, both types x64 and x86
#5238 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Completely remove java from your system, and reinstall it?
#5239 [16:20] <Bozza> Its been happening since 1.2
#5240 [16:20] <schnozzle> aaargh D:<
#5241 [16:21] <August_Dantes> here's the link
#5242 [16:21] <August_Dantes> http://pastebin.com/fSayMaZM
#5243 [16:22] <August_Dantes> ill try removing java and reinstalling as well
#5244 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> That.. sounds like a good idea August_Dantes.
#5245 [16:23] <August_Dantes> It's a damend shame, but I'm sure this stuff happens frequently, especialyl with a game only in its Beta
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#5247 [16:23] <Bozza> Well, I've uninstalled and reinstalled both the x64 and x86 versions and it's still happened
#5248 [16:23] <shmup> first time experiencing this. wondering if it's due to the fixes. if i take my mouse, and move it hard to the right or left..
#5249 [16:24] <shmup> i keep turning, a bit more, in minecraft
#5250 [16:24] <shmup> like i'm spinning on a top
#5251 [16:24] <shmup> just spins me another 180 degrees or so but, anyone else experiencing this?
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#5253 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> shmup - can't say I have, but it sounds akin to having a button pressed down, going to an inventory screen, and returning back, only to have that original button press still happen.
#5254 [16:25] <Randomawol> can u guys tell me why my friends minecraft keeps saying "can not connect to minecraft.net" ???
#5255 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Randomawol - The auth server for the downloaded client is overloaded. Use the in-browser client at minecraft.net
#5256 [16:26] <Randomawol> when will it be fixed
#5257 [16:26] <shmup> GreyVulpine: interesting, one second.
#5258 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Soon™
#5259 [16:26] <Randomawol> thanks
#5260 [16:26] <August_Dantes> At any rate, thanks for all of the help thus far GreyVulpine - its much appreciated =D
#5261 [16:27] <shmup> well GreyVulpine, i'm not sure i follow
#5262 [16:27] <shmup> since a button isn't capable of rotating you, only the mouse.
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#5264 [16:27] <shmup> like we don't have bindings for turning.
#5265 [16:27] <Jackson413> huh this is the first time ive never been able to connect to minecraft
#5266 [16:27] <Jackson413> the VERY first time
#5267 [16:27] <Tweakd> u must be new!
#5268 [16:27] <Jackson413> ever
#5269 [16:27] <Jackson413> no
#5270 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> shmup - I mean, the client is receiving a signal for a button press (for example), but not the button's release
#5271 [16:27] <Jackson413> im just sarcastic
#5272 [16:27] <shmup> ah hah
#5273 [16:27] <shmup> i see
#5274 [16:27] <Tweakd> :)
#5275 [16:27] <Tweakd> had my suspisions :)
#5276 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> When you move your mouse hard, is the minecraft client windowed?
#5277 [16:28] <relsqui> are people still having issues hitting the auth serv--*reads scrollback* never mind
#5278 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Is the mouse cursor moving off the client?
#5279 [16:28] <Tweakd> anyone here play dwarf fortress out of interest?
#5280 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> <3 DF
#5281 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Getting back into it after a couple years hiatus
#5282 [16:28] <Tweakd> hehe, not played in ages, checking out the new features, totally epic!
#5283 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Loving the new features
#5284 [16:29] <Tweakd> tried to reclaim a fortress and lost it before the season changed lol!
#5285 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#5286 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> There's new Happy Fun Stuff™
#5287 [16:29] <Tweakd> had an aligator running mad in my barracks and a pissed off ghost
#5288 [16:30] <Tweakd> so not so easy to reclaim anymore then :)
#5289 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Hah
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#5291 [16:30] <Shango|sogg> what is dwarf fortress?
#5292 [16:30] <Shango|sogg> ;o
#5293 [16:30] <SWAXXER> hiya
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#5295 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> !wiki dwarf fortress
#5296 [16:30] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_Fortress
#5297 [16:30] <GreyBot> Slaves to Armok: God of Blood Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress, also called Slaves to Armok II: Dwarf Fortress, but most commonly known simply as Dwarf Fortress, is a freeware computer game by Bay 12 Games for Microsoft Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X set in a high fantasy universe that combines aspects of roguelike and city-building games and is primarily known for its unique level of complexity
#5298 [16:30] <GreyBot> and
#5299 [16:30] <GreyBot> difficulty. The title of the game is inspired by its primary focus on the construction, management, and exploration of dwarven fortresses within the game world. Development started in October 2002, followed by the game's first public release in August 2006.
#5300 [16:30] <Tweakd> i hope minecraft can one day come close to the amoun t of content in DF
#5301 [16:30] <SWAXXER> i need some help with minecraft
#5302 [16:30] <Shango|sogg> wiki the root of all evil
#5303 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> SWAXXER - Please feel free to ask
#5304 [16:31] <Randomawol> lol
#5305 [16:31] <Tweakd> nice wiki bit 0o
#5306 [16:31] <SWAXXER> basically, i downloaded the new client
#5307 [16:31] <Tweakd> *bot
#5308 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Basically Shango|sogg - Think Minecraft mixed with the sims
#5309 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> That's DF
#5310 [16:31] <SWAXXER> i put in my account info
#5311 [16:31] <SWAXXER> everything
#5312 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> SWAXXER - Can't connect to minecraft.net?
#5313 [16:31] <SWAXXER> click login and it says
#5314 [16:31] <SWAXXER> yes
#5315 [16:31] <SWAXXER> exactly
#5316 [16:31] <Tweakd> and throw in an amazing amount of sadistic failure
#5317 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> SWAXXER - The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment
#5318 [16:31] <Jackson413> it must be you
#5319 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Try the in-browser client at minecraft.net
#5320 [16:31] <SWAXXER> i have two accounts, tried logging in on both, and tried a different computer
#5321 [16:32] <SWAXXER> oh i see
#5322 [16:32] <Jackson413> wait if i get the old client will that work?
#5323 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes Jackson413
#5324 [16:32] <SWAXXER> yeah
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#5326 [16:32] <SWAXXER> it did when i got it
#5327 [16:32] <Jackson413> well
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#5329 [16:32] <SWAXXER> but is there a way to start a server using an older client?
#5330 [16:32] <Jackson413> damn i had that filed away somewhere
#5331 [16:32] <SWAXXER> because basically i want to start a server with a friend
#5332 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> SWAXXER - Hmm?
#5333 [16:32] <SWAXXER> and i can't find an older client either
#5334 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> The client and server are two seperate applications
#5335 [16:32] <SWAXXER> like setup a server
#5336 [16:32] <xales> !server
#5337 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Go to Minecraft.net, and click on the "Download" link, the same linnk where you got the client
#5338 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> The server apps are at the bottom of the page
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#5340 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> damn you xales
#5341 [16:33] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#5341 [16:33] <xales> >:D
#5342 [16:33] <SWAXXER> so i could get an older version of minecraft
#5343 [16:33] <xales> I have to go again in just a minute
#5344 [16:33] <xales> SWAXXER: Not legally
#5345 [16:33] <SWAXXER> and use the ciurrent server version
#5346 [16:33] <SWAXXER> and use it?
#5347 [16:33] <xales> SWAXXER: No
#5348 [16:33] <schnozzle> this is really fail
#5349 [16:33] <SWAXXER> what do you mean "not legally"?
#5350 [16:33] <xales> The client and server version must match
#5351 [16:33] <Shango|sogg> need to go to #minecraftBlackMarket for that :P
#5352 [16:33] <SWAXXER> oh i see
#5353 [16:33] <xales> you can get an older version of the client in an illegal way, and I am not going to say how
#5354 [16:34] <xales> if anyone posts a link to it in here, you will be banned. so don't do it.
#5355 [16:34] <SWAXXER> alright thats all i wanted to hear
#5356 [16:34] <Shango|sogg> yeah pm's ftw
#5357 [16:34] <Shango|sogg> :P
#5358 [16:34] <SWAXXER> im a nigger
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#5360 [16:34] <Tweakd> ok
#5361 [16:34] <schnozzle> I AM YOUR FATHER
#5362 [16:34] <Eplakaka13> So eh. I'm having some trouble with my Minecraft Launcher, any way to actually connect to Minecraft.net with it?
#5363 [16:34] <schnozzle> no
#5364 [16:34] <schnozzle> browser
#5365 [16:34] <xales> Eplakaka13: Other than wait, no
#5366 [16:34] <nevercast> schnozzle, Don't lie to me :D
#5367 [16:34] <Tweakd> not just now
#5368 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Eplakaka13 - Use the in-browser version
#5369 [16:34] <schnozzle> but browesers also broken
#5370 [16:34] <Eplakaka13> Q_______Q
#5371 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Works for me
#5372 [16:35] <xales> anyway
#5373 [16:35] <schnozzle> NOT FOR ME! D:
#5374 [16:35] * xales goes again
#5374 [16:35] * nevercast fires up Desktop
#5374 [16:35] <nevercast> Don't make me check for myself :D
#5375 [16:35] <schnozzle> |||||||||\\\\\\\\\///////////||||||||||||||\
#5376 [16:35] <Kealper> wut
#5377 [16:35] <schnozzle> ||||////\\\\||||
#5378 [16:35] <Eplakaka13> Can't even update grumblegrubmle.
#5379 [16:35] <schnozzle> is bored
#5380 [16:35] <nevercast> schnozzle, don't be a spammah
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#5383 [16:36] <schnozzle> ok D:
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#5385 [16:36] <Litehammer> hello all is any one having a problem loggin in?
#5386 [16:36] <schnozzle> D= Amazon better get that server up NAO!
#5387 [16:36] <nevercast> schnozzle, yeah I don't think it's amazon anymore
#5388 [16:36] <nevercast> hence why the old launcher works
#5389 [16:36] <nevercast> new one doesn't
#5390 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Litehammer - Try the in-browser client at minecraft.net
#5391 [16:36] <schnozzle> rwally? i thought they recently seitched to amazon for login
#5392 [16:36] <ZenMaster> I am having the problem too. cant login with the NEW client; can though with the old
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#5394 [16:37] <nevercast> yeah
#5395 [16:37] <nevercast> schnozzle, LOL WAT.. It was never Amazon for Login
#5396 [16:37] <nevercast> EVER
#5397 [16:37] <Litehammer> my friend logs right in but i cant even get past the logm in
#5398 [16:37] <nevercast> .. i don't think
#5399 [16:37] <nevercast> Litehammer, He's lying ^_^ No one can log in ;)
#5400 [16:38] <schnozzle> ah nvm skins and stuff for login
#5401 [16:38] <schnozzle> I CAN LOG IN WITH MY GODLY POWERS! not
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#5403 [16:38] <amphibulus> i cant update to 1.3 it just stops at 25%
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#5405 [16:38] <iGlitched> Any reason why my Loader cant connect to minecraft?
#5406 [16:38] <schnozzle> this is makig me mad.
#5407 [16:38] <Ridonk> if you don't have the old launcher still, you can play singleplayer with mcpatcher's test button
#5408 [16:38] <schnozzle> is mad
#5409 [16:39] <schnozzle> is annoyed
#5410 [16:39] <mib_81okwk> My launcher will not connect to minecraft.net Does anybody know how to fix this?
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#5412 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_81okwk - Try the in-browser client at minecraft.net
#5413 [16:39] <mib_81okwk> It works for that...but that's too slow...
#5414 [16:40] <amphibulus> i cant update to 1.3 it just stops at 25%
#5415 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_81okwk - The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5416 [16:41] <mib_81okwk> Okay, thank you kind internet person.
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#5418 [16:44] <Shango|sogg> i think they are just advacned ai
#5419 [16:44] <Shango|sogg> Xd
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#5421 [16:44] <relsqui> hey, is there any news on bugged slimes since yesterday?
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#5423 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> We have started training a dumber AI to take the most mundane tasks around here.
#5424 [16:45] * GreyVulpine points to VoxelHead
#5424 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> More time for us to play minecraft
#5425 [16:45] <Kealper> lol
#5426 [16:45] <Shango|sogg> i thought that was xales:o
#5427 [16:45] <Ridonk> lol^^
#5428 [16:45] <Kealper> xD
#5429 [16:45] <Shango|sogg> <3
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#5431 [16:46] <relsqui> so that's a no on slimes, huh? dang.
#5432 [16:46] <PrankstarDK> Hello People :)
#5433 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#5434 [16:46] <Kealper> ello
#5435 [16:46] <PrankstarDK> So.. Found this chat, can anyone help me out? :-)
#5436 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> With?
#5437 [16:47] <shmup> rofl this is nuts man. .we keep finding slimes
#5438 [16:47] <shmup> tons of them
#5439 [16:47] <Kealper> :o
#5440 [16:47] <shmup> i do a restart, still finding em
#5441 [16:47] <Kealper> to the caves!
#5442 [16:47] <shmup> increase the spawn rate?
#5443 [16:47] <PrankstarDK> I have issues logging in to Minecraft.net atm. But i can still do it from the browser but not the desktop client :(
#5444 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> PrankstarDK - The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5445 [16:47] <shmup> PrankstarDK: dont we all. use the old launcher.
#5446 [16:47] <shmup> PrankstarDK: ignore the new one.
#5447 [16:48] <PrankstarDK> How do i use the old one mate? :)
#5448 [16:48] <Shango|sogg> need to spam that on every new join
#5449 [16:48] <shmup> i can send it to you, if you like
#5450 [16:48] <shmup> let me see if i can just find it online
#5451 [16:48] <Shango|sogg> :o
#5452 [16:48] * GreyVulpine baps shmup
#5452 [16:48] <shmup> GreyVulpine: hm?
#5453 [16:48] <Kealper> niet!
#5454 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> No distributing old clients here!
#5455 [16:48] <Shango|sogg> pm's ftw
#5456 [16:48] <shmup> GreyVulpine: ah, didn't realize it was against the rules. heh.
#5457 [16:48] <PrankstarDK> Lol :P
#5458 [16:48] <Kealper> shmup: says right in the game not to distribute it :/
#5459 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> It tis matey
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#5461 [16:49] <the_late_man> heya
#5462 [16:49] <Kealper> for now just use the browser version
#5463 [16:49] <PrankstarDK> It's just that my friends dosn't seem to have any problem connecting.. So i figured the problem was at my end.
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#5465 [16:49] <Kealper> PrankstarDK: nah, they just got lucky
#5466 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> nah, you're not the only person to experience this
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#5468 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> It's rather widespread
#5469 [16:49] <aetherian> I'm surprised not many people thought to save the old client
#5470 [16:49] <espasmato> cant connect with the broswer anymore...
#5471 [16:50] <Nossin> my problem is that every time I log in it says it cannot connect to minecraft.net
#5472 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Nossin - The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5473 [16:50] <espasmato> everyoens problem
#5474 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#5475 [16:50] <Nossin> i see
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#5477 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> ??+ overloaded|The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5478 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> ??overloaded
#5479 [16:50] <shmup> i cant believe f3 allows you to see monster IDs..
#5480 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#5481 [16:50] <VoxelHead> overloaded: The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5482 [16:50] <shmup> it makes farming squid TOO easy
#5483 [16:50] <PrankstarDK> Hehe.. Poor helpers in here :P I guess im not the first one to swing by asking about this issue?
#5484 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> There we go
#5485 [16:51] <Nossin> overload huh...
#5486 [16:51] <Kealper> shmup: F3 is game debug info, seeing what mobs are where helps with debugging
#5487 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately not PrankstarDK, started yesterday with the new update
#5488 [16:51] <BurnZeZ> Notch quit trollin'. http://i.imgur.com/0h67o.png
#5489 [16:51] <shmup> oh i get it Kealper
#5490 [16:51] <shmup> completely
#5491 [16:51] <shmup> but i'm just sayin' ;p
#5492 [16:51] <shmup> it's easy to find dungeons and whatnot
#5493 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> I don't get it BurnZeZ
#5494 [16:51] <Kealper> thne don't press it :P
#5495 [16:52] <Kealper> BurnZeZ: owned
#5496 [16:52] <Kealper> it's a beach of gravel instead of sand
#5497 [16:52] <PrankstarDK> Well thanks for confirming that hte problem isn't at my end GreyVulpine :)
#5498 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#5499 [16:52] <PrankstarDK> Im off again then. Crossing fingers that the problem will be solved fast :)
#5500 [16:54] <BurnZeZ> Kealper: The entire ocean is gravel as well.
#5501 [16:54] <BurnZeZ> It extends unbelievably far.
#5502 [16:54] <Kealper> BurnZeZ: doublely-owned
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#5504 [16:55] <Kappo> Is anyone else getting a Cannot connect to minecraft.net when trying to log in?
#5505 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#5506 [16:55] <VoxelHead> overloaded: The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5507 [16:56] <Kappo> kk
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#5514 [16:58] <BurnZeZ> Argh.
#5515 [16:58] <BurnZeZ> Notch broke Shift+F2
#5516 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#5517 [16:59] <BurnZeZ> Giant screenshot.
#5518 [16:59] <BurnZeZ> Like, in MB size.
#5519 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#5520 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> That's been there for a while now
#5521 [16:59] <xxflonnexx> Can someone give me some help with a crash?.. It only happens on the client. Been trying for who knows how long to fix it..
#5522 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> What crash?
#5523 [16:59] <BurnZeZ> He never fixed that?
#5524 [16:59] * GreyVulpine shakes
#5524 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Was uncompleted code
#5525 [16:59] <BurnZeZ> He should've at least removed it. :\
#5526 [16:59] <xxflonnexx> One second, putting it on pastebin
#5527 [16:59] <BurnZeZ> xxflonnexx: K
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#5529 [17:00] <xxflonnexx> http://pastebin.com/f2bhbX5r
#5530 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Looks like... ati drivers
#5531 [17:00] <xxflonnexx> They're up to date
#5532 [17:00] <BurnZeZ> What Catalyst version?
#5533 [17:00] <xxflonnexx> 6.11
#5534 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Can you provide a dxdiag?
#5535 [17:01] <xxflonnexx> Yeah
#5536 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it's up to date there?
#5537 [17:01] <xxflonnexx> I'll put it on pastebin too, if need be
#5538 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Please do
#5539 [17:01] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#5540 [17:01] <BurnZeZ> 1 core?
#5541 [17:01] <BurnZeZ> What CPU do you have?
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#5543 [17:01] <BurnZeZ> Ah.
#5544 [17:01] <BurnZeZ> DxDiag.
#5545 [17:01] <BurnZeZ> I'll wait.
#5546 [17:01] <xxflonnexx> Not sure, its an older computer
#5547 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> BurnZeZ: number of cores is irrelevant; Minecraft is single-threaded
#5548 [17:02] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: Risugami said it wasn't.
#5549 [17:02] <xxflonnexx> dxdiag is asking about direct input.. said it crashed last time it tried
#5550 [17:02] <BurnZeZ> He said it used multiple threads.
#5551 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> That's news to me
#5552 [17:02] <xxflonnexx> Wants to know if I should bypass, yes or no?
#5553 [17:02] <BurnZeZ> Something like helper threads is what he said.
#5554 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> xxflonnexx - Um, yes?
#5555 [17:02] <BurnZeZ> Let me make sure I'm right.
#5556 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> BurnZeZ: the fact that it only uses one core out of four even when I ask it to kindly do otherwise belies that, BurnZeZ.
#5557 [17:03] <xxflonnexx> It says.. "Dxdiag has detected that there may have been a problem accessing DirectInput the last time this program was used. Would you like to bypass DirectInput this time?
#5558 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, try no for now
#5559 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> if it crashes, then bypass it
#5560 [17:04] <xxflonnexx> May be because I closed it last time I opened it.
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#5562 [17:06] <Dadadah> hello?
#5563 [17:06] <BurnZeZ> Wait.
#5564 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#5565 [17:06] <BurnZeZ> Yes it is.
#5566 [17:06] <BurnZeZ> I have a dual core.
#5567 [17:06] <Dadadah> is MC down?
#5568 [17:06] <BurnZeZ> It uses both cores.
#5569 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#5570 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#5571 [17:06] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#5572 [17:06] <Dadadah> i cqant connect
#5573 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> With
#5574 [17:06] <xxflonnexx> http://pastebin.com/DB8LmL63 Dxdiag
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#5576 [17:06] <BurnZeZ> That's low ram.
#5577 [17:07] <xxflonnexx> Yeah
#5578 [17:07] <BurnZeZ> It should still work though.
#5579 [17:07] <Dadadah> i have the new exe and i cant connect to MC
#5580 [17:07] <xxflonnexx> Its an older computer
#5581 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#5582 [17:07] <VoxelHead> overloaded: The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5583 [17:07] <Golfman560> Would anyone know why I cant connect to the server even though its supposedly still up?
#5584 [17:07] * GreyVulpine points Dadadah at above
#5584 [17:07] <xxflonnexx> The client used to work fine.
#5585 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> and Golfman560.
#5586 [17:07] <bamhm182> Wait, minecraft is back up?
#5587 [17:07] <Dadadah> ugh
#5588 [17:07] <Golfman560> alright thanks
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#5590 [17:07] <xxflonnexx> But now just the browser works
#5591 [17:07] <bamhm182> I'm still getting the "Can't connect to minecraft.net" error...
#5592 [17:07] <Dadadah> uhm?
#5593 [17:07] <bamhm182> Ah, alrigh
#5594 [17:07] <BurnZeZ> How are you running 1080p with that card? XD
#5595 [17:07] <Dadadah> ye me 2
#5596 [17:07] <bamhm182> *alright
#5597 [17:07] <xxflonnexx> No clue
#5598 [17:07] <xxflonnexx> Its working though
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#5600 [17:08] <oxE1> what card?
#5601 [17:08] <xxflonnexx> ATI radeon 9250
#5602 [17:08] <xxflonnexx> It sucks
#5603 [17:08] <wwwq> i can't login to my minecraft i minecraft .exe?? help
#5604 [17:08] <Dadadah> ok ty i conected
#5605 [17:08] <Dadadah> u have to use the onliune one
#5606 [17:08] <xxflonnexx> Some guy talked my mom into buying it sometime last year or so, she beleived him when he said it was top of the line.
#5607 [17:09] <Dadadah> ty adios
#5608 [17:09] <wwwq> eny on help me ????
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#5612 [17:10] <wwwq> help plz?
#5613 [17:10] <xxflonnexx> Someone said the server for logging in is down
#5614 [17:10] <xxflonnexx> You have to use the client
#5615 [17:10] <xxflonnexx> er
#5616 [17:10] <xxflonnexx> Browser
#5617 [17:10] <wwwq> kk.. but my friends can login :S
#5618 [17:10] <wwwq> kk
#5619 [17:10] <wwwq> thx
#5620 [17:10] <wwwq> :)
#5621 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> ??< overloaded
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#5623 [17:13] <coz> hey all :)
#5624 [17:14] <xxflonnexx> So.. No ideas I guess? >.<
#5625 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> xxflonnexx: you never asked a question.
#5626 [17:14] <BurnZeZ> Currently searching through my 2000+ log files for "threaded"
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#5628 [17:14] <Arkose> expecting threading from a Java program? :P
#5629 [17:15] <xxflonnexx> Oh.. I posted earlier.
#5630 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> BurnZeZ: Grep is your friend.
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#5632 [17:15] <Bill> Running a little server for some friends and myself, one of my friends gets disconnected.overflow every minute or two
#5633 [17:15] <BurnZeZ> DopeGhoti: Using it.
#5634 [17:15] <BurnZeZ> :D
#5635 [17:15] <Bill> Any ideas?
#5636 [17:15] <BurnZeZ> And I know Minecraft has at least 2 threads.
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#5638 [17:15] <jDodson99> Does anyone know a link to download the old launcher? :c
#5639 [17:15] <xxflonnexx> The client crashes after I log in, and it gives me this http://pastebin.com/f2bhbX5r
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#5641 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> jDodson99: no legitimate ones, no.
#5642 [17:15] <BurnZeZ> Trying to find what Risugami said about the others.
#5643 [17:15] <jDodson99> NOOOOOOO!
#5644 [17:16] <schnozzle> "can't connect to Minecraft.net" ..... This is the error I'm getting when I try to logg on..
#5645 [17:16] <xxflonnexx> Question is, what can I do to fix it, I guess
#5646 [17:16] <jDodson99> OHAY
#5647 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#5648 [17:16] <VoxelHead> overloaded: The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5649 [17:16] <mastersmok> I'm getting the exact same thing as you schnozzle
#5650 [17:16] <jDodson99> I forgot that I still had the old launcher in my trash bin.
#5651 [17:16] <jDodson99> FTW ;D
#5652 [17:17] <schnozzle> aha ok, thx.
#5653 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> xxflonnexx requirements
#5654 [17:17] <VoxelHead> xxflonnexx: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#5655 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> xxflonnexx: your system only has 768MiB of RAM.
#5656 [17:17] <xxflonnexx> The browser works fine.
#5657 [17:17] <xxflonnexx> The client ran fine up untill a few months ago.
#5658 [17:18] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#5659 [17:18] <BurnZeZ> Can't find the log.
#5660 [17:18] <BurnZeZ> Well, Risugami said there are two threads.
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#5662 [17:18] <Elvang> Anyone know what the new minimum spawn distance for mobs is?
#5663 [17:18] <BurnZeZ> Then miscellaneous other helper threads.
#5664 [17:19] <BurnZeZ> Also, has anyone fixed zombies yet?
#5665 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Elvang - I believe it's at least 27 blocks
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#5667 [17:19] <Elvang> I had a herd of 4 sheep spawn 10 away for me while chopping trees :\
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#5669 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#5670 [17:19] <Chaze0071> Is there a reason I can't connect?
#5671 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#5672 [17:19] <VoxelHead> overloaded: The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5673 [17:19] <BurnZeZ> I thought spawn was chunk distance based?
#5674 [17:20] <Elvang> Also, did they spawn in plain view before as well?
#5675 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> I swear I heard 27 blocks in #bukkit a little while ago
#5676 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: the spawn-free zone around the player only applies to hostile mobs.
#5677 [17:20] <Elvang> Ah
#5678 [17:21] <BurnZeZ> So you're telling me that pigs shoving me off of a 200 meter high mountain isn't considered hostile?
#5679 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> nope; you just forgot to saddle up
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#5682 [17:22] <BurnZeZ> Heh.
#5683 [17:22] <xxflonnexx> Guess theres no help then, thanks anyway, for those who attempted to help.
#5684 [17:22] <BurnZeZ> I clicked on the 404 Challenge thread in the forums, and got this. http://i.imgur.com/UaJq0.png
#5685 [17:22] <BurnZeZ> I thought it was funny.
#5686 [17:24] <espasmato> what port do i forward for the server?
#5687 [17:24] <Bill> Running a little server for some friends and myself, one of my friends gets disconnected.overflow every minute or two
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#5689 [17:25] <Chaze0071> screw the client
#5690 [17:25] <Chaze0071> I hate playing in the browser -.-
#5691 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> espasmato - 25565/TCP
#5692 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> You can also find/change the port used in the server.properties file
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#5695 [17:28] <TTML> hi
#5696 [17:29] <coz> q: i see no connection from this guy in my console and someone else connected fine, he said he got connection timeout . I recommended fw / av etc .. he pinged this back
#5697 [17:29] <TTML> can anyone else not connect to the client
#5698 [17:29] <coz> ""Ok, so i tried connecting with my firewall disabled... still no luck.
#5699 [17:29] <coz> I also uninstalled my antivirus and tried to connect, no luck with that either.
#5700 [17:29] <coz> My routers firewall also says that it is allowing any connection when i connect to it on the net and check the settings, so i am unaware of what is wrong :/.""
#5701 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> ??> coz pastebin
#5702 [17:29] <VoxelHead> coz: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#5703 [17:29] <VoxelHead> coz: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
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#5705 [17:30] <coz> sorry i didnt mean to flood
#5706 [17:30] <espasmato> is there a list of the IDs for minecraft somewhere?
#5707 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> coz - First off, are you hosting this locally?
#5708 [17:30] <espasmato> like
#5709 [17:30] <espasmato> the resources
#5710 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> coz: that said, if some people can connect to your computer, and one person cannot, the problem is pretty apparently with that one person's connection.
#5711 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> espasmato http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#5712 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> ??>> TTML overloaded
#5713 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> ??> TTML overloaded
#5714 [17:30] <VoxelHead> TTML: (overloaded) The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5715 [17:30] <espasmato> thanks GreyVulpine
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#5717 [17:31] <coz> yes. but i was hoping maybe had some suggestion we appearantly overlooked ;)
#5718 [17:31] <Gyroman> espasmao or you can go to http://minecraftwiki.net/
#5719 [17:31] <wippler> Ok, for real, its been 5 hours no
#5720 [17:31] <wippler> now
#5721 [17:31] <coz> +someone
#5722 [17:31] <wippler> tthe seervers been down forever
#5723 [17:31] <wippler> and its down every day
#5724 [17:31] <espasmato> go paly SP then
#5725 [17:31] <wippler> for like 5 hours
#5726 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> ??> wippler overloaded
#5727 [17:31] <VoxelHead> wippler: (overloaded) The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5728 [17:31] <wippler> yeah
#5729 [17:31] <espasmato> and wippler its because its beta game.
#5730 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> And it's not down every day
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#5732 [17:31] <espasmato> so there will be downtown
#5733 [17:31] <espasmato> *dowtime
#5734 [17:31] <espasmato> lol
#5735 [17:31] <espasmato> u no wat i mean
#5736 [17:31] <TTML> why does my client keep saying caant connect to minecraft.net
#5737 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> ??> TTML overloaded
#5738 [17:32] <VoxelHead> TTML: (overloaded) The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
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#5740 [17:32] <TTML> ok when will it be fixed
#5741 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Soon™
#5742 [17:32] <TTML> k ty
#5743 [17:32] <mib_e12nmo> why would i be able to log in this morning and not for last 4 hours
#5744 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_2m6gbl overloaded
#5745 [17:32] <VoxelHead> mib_2m6gbl: (overloaded) The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5746 [17:32] <aetherian> loltrademark
#5747 [17:32] <mib_e12nmo> cool
#5748 [17:33] <mib_e12nmo> il wait no rush i can stil singleplayer lol
#5749 [17:33] <nanicoar> VoxelHead: The old client still works.
#5750 [17:33] <VoxelHead> nanicoar, I am a bot.
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#5752 [17:33] <nanicoar> Damn you!
#5753 [17:33] <relsqui> XD
#5754 [17:33] <mib_e12nmo> i aint got the old client im using .jar
#5755 [17:35] <BurnZeZ> Just so you guys are aware, seed generation depends on capitalization as well.
#5756 [17:35] <Chaze0071> mib_e12nmo: it's not the servers
#5757 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Of course
#5758 [17:35] <Chaze0071> its the dumb client. D:
#5759 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> ASCII number for A is different from a
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#5762 [17:35] <BurnZeZ> I find it funny if you use "burnzez"
#5763 [17:36] <BurnZeZ> You end up in an ice world in every direction.
#5764 [17:36] <mib_e12nmo> i think it must be the servers i had the new client workin this morning
#5765 [17:36] <mib_e12nmo> not for last 5 hours though
#5766 [17:36] <coz> hmm .. hang on,. couldnt the guy that appearantly has issues on his end do some traceroute and see if it stops at 0 or 1 hop ;o
#5767 [17:36] <Kevitivity> I just downloaded the client and purchased an account, but I'm getting "Can't connect to ..." Is it me or are the servers over loaded?
#5768 [17:36] <leaper> kev
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#5770 [17:36] <leaper> im getting the same message
#5771 [17:36] <TheJim> any reason why whitelist even though its says its active and all commands work - but still manages to fail to block people from joinin?
#5772 [17:36] <Tweakd> yes kev they are down right now
#5773 [17:36] <leaper> "cannot connect to minecraft"
#5774 [17:37] <Gyroman> Servers are overloaded
#5775 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> ?? _everyone_ overloaded
#5776 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> _everyone_ overloaded
#5777 [17:37] <mib_e12nmo> ya
#5778 [17:37] <leaper> mine is
#5779 [17:37] <VoxelHead> _everyone_: (overloaded) The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5780 [17:37] <Kevitivity> Thank you. Is there a network status page?
#5781 [17:37] <mib_e12nmo> they need sort the server out tbf could take time
#5782 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Kevitivity - Sorry, no.
#5783 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> ?? migration
#5784 [17:38] <leaper> in browser...? does it need internet connection even if im going to play in in single player in browser?
#5785 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc./net/migration
#5786 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> dammit
#5787 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/migration
#5788 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#5789 [17:38] * DopeGhoti gives up and looks up the entry
#5789 [17:38] <leaper> ?????
#5790 [17:38] <aetherian> ;p;
#5791 [17:38] <aetherian> ?? mc.net/down
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#5793 [17:38] <andResin> hey
#5794 [17:39] <aetherian> dammit
#5795 [17:39] <andResin> theres a fix for the "cant login"
#5796 [17:39] <andResin> ??
#5797 [17:39] <aetherian> it doesn't show out, right.
#5798 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#5799 [17:39] <nipper> ekk 503s
#5800 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#5801 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5802 [17:39] <nipper> 503 from server login so its broke as well.
#5803 [17:39] <aetherian> or use the old client, if you still have it
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#5805 [17:39] <nipper> auth servers dead as well.
#5806 [17:39] <Gyroman> i think even the inbrowser is down
#5807 [17:40] <gothroach> I can't load the website at all now.
#5808 [17:40] <Kevitivity> For Mac users, whats the best browser to use?
#5809 [17:40] <mib_mlbx2e> is it only me or is minecraft down?
#5810 [17:40] <Gyroman> yep no website
#5811 [17:40] <nipper> it is
#5812 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#5813 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#5814 [17:40] <mib_mlbx2e> garh thought so
#5815 [17:40] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#5815 [17:40] <gothroach> GreyVulpine: It's sending a TCP reset as soon as I connect.
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#5817 [17:41] <Gyroman> dang was going to restart my server today but i guess ill have to wait a bit more >.<
#5818 [17:41] <mib_mlbx2e> hopefully it goes back soon -crosses fingers-
#5819 [17:41] <nipper> lol i did restart
#5820 [17:41] <Gyroman> iv been having trouble converting my SMP map *sigh*
#5821 [17:41] <BurnZeZ> This is the funniest thing ever. http://i.imgur.com/OBxMW.png
#5822 [17:42] <BurnZeZ> He apparently doesn't understand how the seed works.
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#5825 [17:43] <nipper> lol
#5826 [17:43] <BurnZeZ> Woo netsplit!
#5827 [17:43] <BurnZeZ> :D
#5828 [17:43] <nipper> gots to love them.
#5829 [17:43] <aetherian> wooohooo
#5830 [17:43] <Kevitivity> I survived
#5831 [17:43] <aetherian> damn big netsplit
#5832 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Nice
#5833 [17:43] <LG_Legacy> And
#5834 [17:43] <LG_Legacy> GO
#5835 [17:43] <aetherian> I have yet to be hit by a split :)
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#5837 [17:44] <aetherian> welcome back!
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#5903 [17:44] <aetherian> xd
#5904 [17:44] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at chanserv
#5904 [17:44] <cazarroman> Is there anyone here available to help me out?
#5905 [17:44] <aetherian> that was... fun.
#5906 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps cazarroman
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#5909 [17:45] <cazarroman> Ok. After I updated to 1.3 and downloaded the new launcher, Im not able play anymore
#5910 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#5911 [17:46] <VoxelHead> overloaded: The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#5912 [17:46] <aetherian> question: why do we need so many bots in here?
#5913 [17:46] <Chaze0071> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
#5914 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> To balance out you being in here aetherian
#5915 [17:47] <aetherian> hurr hurr
#5916 [17:47] <aetherian> you need a couple more, methinks
#5917 [17:47] <Chaze007> I really hope they fix this server problem before the actual game releases -.-
#5918 [17:47] <cazarroman> Another quick question. I also created a server before 1.3, and ever since I updated, whenever I enter my server, I find myself free-falling with no chunks being created. Is that due to overload also?
#5919 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> Nah, you're only worth 3 bots
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#5921 [17:47] <aetherian> !ping
#5922 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> cazarroman - Nope, try looking into firewall settings
#5923 [17:47] <killergut> is it justme or i cant get on miencraft
#5924 [17:47] <aetherian> aaaand it still doesn't work
#5925 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.jnet
#5926 [17:47] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.jnet looks down from here.
#5927 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#5928 [17:47] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5929 [17:48] <aetherian> ow
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#5931 [17:49] <cazarroman> Ok thank you.
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#5936 [17:50] <BurnZeZ> #minecrafthelp is more popular now that I'm banned from #minecraft
#5937 [17:50] <Postoffice> when can we login again?
#5938 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Soon™
#5939 [17:50] <BurnZeZ> That's right. You're all my groupies.
#5940 [17:50] * GreyVulpine stabs BurnZeZ
#5940 [17:51] <Postoffice> taking about minutes og hrs?
#5941 [17:51] <Gyroman> Ok so im trying to convert an old map and i put it in my save file and it does not appear in the list of worlds any ideas what wrong?
#5942 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> hours to days, most likely
#5943 [17:51] * BurnZeZ is stabbed.
#5943 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> Gyroman: were you running any mods?
#5944 [17:51] <Gyroman> yeah i was on bukkit
#5945 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> Gyroman: modded maps tend to get eaten by the conversion.
#5946 [17:52] <Gyroman> aah i see
#5947 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> "This is why I don't run mods."
#5948 [17:52] <Gyroman> i guess ill have to wait for bukkit to figure it out lol
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#5950 [17:54] <Albuca> Is it just me, or is MC down?
#5951 [17:54] <Arkose> yes it is
#5952 [17:54] <Gyroman> its down
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#5954 [17:54] <Albuca> Haha thanks. lolnotch
#5955 [17:54] <mizzi311> IT WORKS!
#5956 [17:55] <mizzi311> NOT
#5957 [17:55] <mizzi311> * waiting for the mail
#5958 [17:55] <nipper> lol
#5959 [17:55] <nipper> 503 errors from my server.
#5960 [17:56] <xales> nipper: that's a lot
#5961 [17:56] <nipper> alot what?
#5962 [17:56] <xales> *trollface.png*
#5963 [17:56] <nipper> lol I know.
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#5965 [17:56] <nipper> If only mc could get some more stable servers to handle the huge userload.
#5966 [17:56] <xales> they are working on it
#5967 [17:56] <nipper> Time to get a wow server tech on the team.
#5968 [17:56] <arensirb> new mc.net login still down?
#5969 [17:56] <xales> arensirb: probably
#5970 [17:56] <Albuca> old is down as well
#5971 [17:57] <arensirb> nipper: +1!
#5972 [17:57] <nipper> The joy of minecraft.
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#5974 [17:57] <nipper> Sorry but its nickname is crashcraft.
#5975 [17:58] <mizzi311> i wanna play
#5976 [17:58] <gothroach> I have a stable server, but I don't want a huge influx of people so it's private. :(
#5977 [17:58] <CoLoN> i wouldnt mind a few extra players on my priv server
#5978 [17:59] <nipper> I run a public one my self.
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#5981 [18:01] <roblog> you plan too much minecraft when: you get back from the grocery with your wife and a plastic bag hits the floor and makes the same sound as a creeper just before it explodes, and you get startled and start quickly looking for a place to hide.
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#5983 [18:01] <nipper> well 503 is gone able to login via web thats good.
#5984 [18:01] <roblog> plan = play*
#5985 [18:01] <itmangerber> is the server down?
#5986 [18:02] <CoLoN> yea its down
#5987 [18:02] <itmangerber> is there a place that tells the status of the server and planned downtime?
#5988 [18:02] <arensirb> I want to PLAY!
#5989 [18:03] <arensirb> how can the loginservers be so overloaded?
#5990 [18:03] <arensirb> do people restart mc.exe 10 times a minute?
#5991 [18:03] <roblog> also, in case you missed it, ChunkHost is a MC-friendly VPS host and they're doing a free trial of their 512MB VPS. (requires a U.S. credit card for now though.) http://chunkhost.com/r/022211
#5992 [18:03] <arensirb> VPS :S
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#5994 [18:03] <arron> hello
#5995 [18:03] <roblog> i figured this channel was appropriate to let people know... since it kinda falls under 'help' with setting up a server.
#5996 [18:04] <arron> i think i just found a big bug in minecraft
#5997 [18:04] <roblog> arron: it's not a bug, it's a feature.
#5998 [18:04] <roblog> oh wait. that's windows.
#5999 [18:04] <arensirb> windows ==? the shit
#6000 [18:05] <roblog> i haven't used windows since win95.
#6001 [18:05] <xales> arron: okay, and it is..?
#6002 [18:05] <arron> i was playing on singel player because it keeps saying cant connet to minecraft.net and i dug a tunnel and i was luck to find nine diemond and lave and ioan so i built a never gate
#6003 [18:05] <arensirb> xales: is the old launcher available on website?
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#6005 [18:05] <xales> arensirb: nope
#6006 [18:05] <arensirb> how crappy
#6007 [18:06] <xales> indeed
#6008 [18:06] <xales> arron: so...what is the bug
#6009 [18:06] <arensirb> its the only one that works, and it isnt even avail.
#6010 [18:06] <arensirb> can you kick notch for me?
#6011 [18:06] <arensirb> in teh butt
#6012 [18:06] <BarryCarlyon> I WILL NOT KICK GOD!
#6013 [18:06] <xales> I don't have any more contact with him than you :P
#6014 [18:06] <arron> so i when into never it loaded fine then i dig up some blocks and the game crashes and shuts its self off and i go back into singel player and the gate has gone and im stuck in never!
#6015 [18:06] <arensirb> BarryCarlyon: I didnt ask you to kick god either
#6016 [18:06] <BarryCarlyon> !
#6017 [18:06] <BarryCarlyon> Don't make me set Macro on you!
#6018 [18:07] <arensirb> lol
#6019 [18:07] <xales> arron: it is a known problem. wait until the update for it to be fixe
#6020 [18:07] <xales> d
#6021 [18:08] <arron> i thought the error is that u cood die in never when u enrter it
#6022 [18:08] <roblog> see... this is why every time there's an update to minecraft, i run a shell script that renames the old version and downloads the update.. that way, if the update sucks or breaks something, i still have the old version.
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#6024 [18:08] <arron> not game crashes gate gose
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#6026 [18:08] <BarryCarlyon> roblog: thats the old version of the server I imagine. Most people are having fun wih clients rather than servers.
#6027 [18:08] <xales> arron: no, that is a known problem. you just need to wait for a fix
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#6029 [18:08] <BarryCarlyon> I do the same.
#6030 [18:08] <xales> anyway
#6031 [18:08] * xales has to go again
#6031 [18:08] * xales tags Kealper in
#6031 [18:09] <arron> oh o.k thanks for ur help then when its fixed will the gate retrun?
#6032 [18:09] <xales> arron: possibly
#6033 [18:09] <xales> I don't know
#6034 [18:09] <Chaze007> Screw these servers
#6035 [18:09] <Chaze007> D:<
#6036 [18:09] <roblog> BarryCarlyon: yeah.. i keep backups of client and server when there's updates.
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#6038 [18:09] <arron> i hope so the never reml sounds feack me out and i have no weapons
#6039 [18:09] <BarryCarlyon> Keeping client backups is more difficult. Especially since it auto updates.
#6040 [18:09] <arron> o.o
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#6045 [18:10] <Chaze007> -.- ARGH.
#6046 [18:10] <ChaosKiller> use the webclient instead of launcher, that worked for me :)
#6047 [18:11] <roblog> BarryCarlyon: my script makes a tarball of ~/.minecraft though, so i still have the client resources too. the only problem occurs when i don't check to see if there's an update -before- firing up the launcher.
#6048 [18:11] <BarryCarlyon> Hehe.
#6049 [18:11] <Chaze007> I liked the old client betterrr
#6050 [18:11] <BarryCarlyon> But when you fire the launcher up and login then it updates. (Old client auto matic)
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#6053 [18:12] <roblog> BarryCarlyon: there are ways around that. a lot of folders, you can put a simple blank "DO_NOT_UPDATE.txt" in, and they won't auto-update.
#6054 [18:13] <BarryCarlyon> Really? I didn't know that.
#6055 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> roblog: isn't chattr +i easier?
#6056 [18:13] <roblog> BarryCarlyon: yeah. something notch did to keep updates from breaking mods, i think.
#6057 [18:13] <ZangTT> Just checking: is the "Can't connect to minecraft.net" problem global, or is there something going on with my launcher?
#6058 [18:13] <roblog> DopeGhoti: never tried that.
#6059 [18:14] <roblog> http://www.isminecraftdown.net/
#6060 [18:14] <BarryCarlyon> Global and yes. ZangTT
#6061 [18:15] <TheJim> any reason why whitelist even though its says its active and all commands work - but still manages to fail to block people from joinin?
#6062 [18:15] <roblog> TheJim: whitelist mod, or native whitelist?
#6063 [18:16] <ChaosKiller> ZangTT: you can still play with web client
#6064 [18:16] <ChaosKiller> argh
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#6066 [18:17] <ChaosKiller> well single player works with download but no multi
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#6070 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> roblog: chattr +i sets a file as immutable, so not even root can rm or mv it withouth `chattr -i` first
#6071 [18:20] <Cial> BarryCarlyon, yea some people wanted updates optional like that
#6072 [18:20] <ctgerber> dang i still cant connect
#6073 [18:20] <Cial> i wish the login button was brighter than that
#6074 [18:20] <ZangTT> hmmn, i still can
#6075 [18:20] <s0m3f00l> Hi! How do I get on a servers whitelist? OR is there an IRC server out there with Servers for SURVIVAL ?
#6076 [18:20] <ZangTT> can't connect either
#6077 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> s0m3f00l: that's entirely up to the administrators of the server in question.
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#6079 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> s0m3f00l: if you're looking for servers..
#6080 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> ??>> s0m3f00l smp/servers
#6081 [18:21] <ctgerber> maybe my internets are clogged lol
#6082 [18:21] <Zerim> what, DopeGhoti
#6083 [18:21] <s0m3f00l> Thanks Dope
#6084 [18:21] <Zerim> nvm.
#6085 [18:22] <roblog> DopeGhoti: i know what the command does.. i just never thought of it. thanks though. oh, and btw.. awesome name. i used to play keen on my old 386
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#6087 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> roblog: thanks :D
#6088 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> Zerim: you rang?
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#6090 [18:24] <Zerim> Nah. >_>
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#6093 [18:25] <Chris> hey dads
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#6096 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> Chris: not everyone in here is a father.
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#6098 [18:26] <Chris> right my bad
#6099 [18:26] <aetherian> o.o
#6100 [18:26] <Chris> hey moms and dads
#6101 [18:26] <Zerim> Most people here aren't fathers*
#6102 [18:26] <Zerim> Aren't parents*
#6103 [18:26] <Zerim> http://screencast.com/t/h51NhN8Ao
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#6106 [18:27] <shokora> i have 3 monkeybabies
#6107 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> Zerim: How, I wonder, are those statistics compiled?
#6108 [18:28] <Zerim> Alexa. I have no idea, honestly.
#6109 [18:28] <Zerim> You can't have a perfect sample group
#6110 [18:29] <ctgerber_> ugggh i still cant logon
#6111 [18:29] <Chris> are you getting the can't connect error?
#6112 [18:30] <ctgerber_> yes
#6113 [18:30] <Chris> i have been getting that sporadically for the past ~2 days
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#6115 [18:30] <ctgerber_> yea i keep trying
#6116 [18:30] <Chris> since the new launcher i can't run minecraft at all
#6117 [18:30] <Chris> i'm a sad cat
#6118 [18:30] <sprocket> yeh same
#6119 [18:30] <sprocket> I can't seem to connect at all
#6120 [18:30] <Chris> i just want to sleep in my own carefully crafted bed
#6121 [18:31] <Arkose> Chris: does offline mode not work?
#6122 [18:31] <Chris> no sir
#6123 [18:31] <Arkose> ...
#6124 [18:31] <sprocket> does for me
#6125 [18:31] <Chris> i've been able to connect
#6126 [18:31] <Chris> it does for my pals too
#6127 [18:32] <Chris> when i say i've been able to connect i mean it connects but i just get a blacks screen, the menu graphics dont load
#6128 [18:32] <sprocket> Only been played 2 days, but i'm hooked, but it's annoying since out of the time played, most of it has been on offline mode
#6129 [18:32] <Chris> the buttons load, and i can click them, but i can't see them and eventually the client just closes
#6130 [18:32] <Chris> my laptop is total garbage, so i'm not surprised, but it's worked fine until the new launcher
#6131 [18:32] <lyude> woah
#6132 [18:33] <lyude> Someone is having computer problems
#6133 [18:33] <Chris> haha yeah
#6134 [18:33] <lyude> Do you know who this calls for?
#6135 [18:33] <sprocket> Does multiplayer work in offline mode, since i'm connecting to my friends pc.
#6136 [18:33] <Chris> tax returns man
#6137 [18:33] <Chris> plus newegg dot com
#6138 [18:33] <lyude> no
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#6140 [18:33] * lyude !
#6140 [18:33] <lyude> oh
#6141 [18:33] <lyude> wait
#6142 [18:33] <Town3r> HELP! i can't login.
#6143 [18:33] <lyude> this isn't the channel where I'm the computer geek
#6144 [18:33] <lyude> This is a channel full of geeks
#6145 [18:33] <lyude> nvm D:
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#6148 [18:34] <ferminter> Hello?
#6149 [18:34] <sprocket> So any ideas when it's coming back on?
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#6151 [18:34] <Hypertypical> Are the log in servers still down?
#6152 [18:34] <sprocket> Anyone seen a twitter or?
#6153 [18:34] <Chris> are they actually down for everyone?
#6154 [18:34] <ferminter> i cant log in period
#6155 [18:34] <Hypertypical> You can play in browser
#6156 [18:34] <Cial> yea
#6157 [18:34] <sprocket> Same.
#6158 [18:34] <Cial> they are still down
#6159 [18:34] <Hypertypical> ferminter - Use the browser
#6160 [18:34] <Cial> down for me
#6161 [18:34] <Hypertypical> Play the game in browser, as apposed to the client
#6162 [18:34] <Cial> im playing in the client
#6163 [18:35] * Cial feels special
#6163 [18:35] <sprocket> How do you do that?
#6164 [18:35] <sprocket> <--- new guy
#6165 [18:35] <Hypertypical> *facepalm* - You can log in and play multiplayer in browser
#6166 [18:35] <ferminter> does anyone know if they will fix the client eventually?
#6167 [18:35] <Hypertypical> ferminter... YES
#6168 [18:35] <sprocket> ah yeh but it's not survival is it
#6169 [18:35] <roblog> i think i'm going to make my server based around a client-side post-apocalyptic mod.
#6170 [18:35] <Hypertypical> JUST PLAY IN BROSWER :@
#6171 [18:36] <ferminter> quit spazzing bro,just an honest question or two
#6172 [18:36] <Town3r> NOOO i hate the browser
#6173 [18:36] <sprocket> browser multiplayer sucks though :p
#6174 [18:36] <Wept> mine doesn't even work in browser. haters gonna hate.
#6175 [18:36] <Hypertypical> You can load it in a browser
#6176 [18:36] <sprocket> :o
#6177 [18:36] <Hypertypical> tTHE
#6178 [18:36] <Hypertypical> THEN
#6179 [18:36] <sprocket> Please elaborate
#6180 [18:36] <Hypertypical> You can play offline in client
#6181 [18:36] <Hypertypical> not onloine
#6182 [18:37] <Wept> o'rly?
#6183 [18:37] <Wept> just kidding.
#6184 [18:37] <sprocket> Yeh but I can't play with my friends doing survival on the browser can I?
#6185 [18:37] <Wept> you can.
#6186 [18:37] <Town3r> anyone know why i keep getting "Can't conenct to minecraft.net when the site is still up?
#6187 [18:37] <Wept> Town3r: Website is not the same server as the game.
#6188 [18:37] <Town3r> ahh
#6189 [18:37] <Town3r> :( so sad
#6190 [18:38] <sprocket> So no survival?
#6191 [18:38] <sprocket> Or can I?
#6192 [18:38] <sprocket> Not getting a clear answer xD
#6193 [18:38] <Wept> you can - SP.
#6194 [18:38] <sprocket> :D
#6195 [18:38] <Hypertypical> Wept
#6196 [18:38] <ctgerber_> dang i cant get it to work in browser or client
#6197 [18:38] <sprocket> So just go on the multiplayer option on the minecraft.net web page
#6198 [18:38] <Wept> AH, sorry you meant with friends.
#6199 [18:38] <Hypertypical> I thought it was the same server, but it ignores client login because you are logged into website
#6200 [18:38] <Wept> Not sure about that one.
#6201 [18:39] <Wept> Hyper, talked about that question yesterday here.
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#6203 [18:39] <Wept> SO i'm not sure which way - but the fact is, client may not work but website is up.
#6204 [18:39] <Sirwadle> Wow login is still down? Is fixing login that hard?
#6205 [18:39] <Hypertypical> I'm off anyway
#6206 [18:39] <sprocket> urgh, would have thought with 1million players now they'd do things a tad faster
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#6208 [18:39] <Chris> where is mojang's base of operations?
#6209 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Better than it was when it was just Notch himself
#6210 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Sweden
#6211 [18:40] <sprocket> Indeed
#6212 [18:40] <Chris> i am GMT minus 5 hr
#6213 [18:40] <Chris> so that's prob like
#6214 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> So eastern, yeah
#6215 [18:40] <Wept> Swe is +2, right?
#6216 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> It's midnight where notch is right now
#6217 [18:40] <Chris> okay so seven hour difference, they're mid day right now? noonish?
#6218 [18:40] <Wept> Well, it's 1:40 AM here :)
#6219 [18:40] <Arkose> those Swedish people
#6220 [18:40] <Chris> oh
#6221 [18:40] <Chris> can't do math
#6222 [18:40] <Chris> darn
#6223 [18:41] <Arkose> having regular sleeping schedules
#6224 [18:41] <Arkose> such nerve
#6225 [18:41] <sprocket> I really am impressed by Minecraft, it's seems to do better than most games regardless of graphics. Just goes to show that super realistic graphcs and gameplays arent always the way forward.
#6226 [18:41] <Chris> so hey maybe in like 10 hours we'll get some love
#6227 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#6228 [18:41] <Arkose> sprocket: there are fancier graphics packs available should you want the best of both worlds. :)
#6229 [18:41] <Chris> a friend of mine was able to login just fine
#6230 [18:41] <Chris> haha yeah but everything is still cubes
#6231 [18:41] <sprocket> have those a-holes stopped Ddosing the website btw
#6232 [18:41] <Wept> Chris, in the launcher?
#6233 [18:41] <sprocket> I was reading about it
#6234 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> That was a while ago
#6235 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> And yeah
#6236 [18:42] <ctgerber_> i give up for now
#6237 [18:42] <Wept> Are the servers on a linux?
#6238 [18:42] <TheJim> roblog: sorry, whitelist native
#6239 [18:42] <Sirwadle> You know what they need to do, be feeding us more information, Twitter is useless, they need a section on the website with what they are currently doing if anything
#6240 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Mojang.com
#6241 [18:43] <Sirwadle> "Currently working to fix login issues" (timestamp) (ETA on being fixed)
#6242 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Twitter, on all their devs
#6243 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Getsatisfaction
#6244 [18:43] <Chris> wept: yeah he said it worked fine, and he's on the same internet as me
#6245 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> As well as having people here
#6246 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> it's ~1AM in Sweeden right now. Let them sleep.
#6247 [18:43] <Sirwadle> Twitter is useless ive seen the same message up there about logins with timestamp of 2 mins ago
#6248 [18:43] <Chris> actually technically i'm on the wireless, he's on ethernet so idk
#6249 [18:43] <Sirwadle> now I know I saw that post like 15 mins ago
#6250 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> So, they're not just lollygagging around
#6251 [18:43] <Sirwadle> it wasnt posted 2 mins ago..
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#6253 [18:43] <Wept> Chris, he's playing offline prob.
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#6255 [18:43] <Wept> No way he's online.
#6256 [18:44] <Chris> he's probably bad
#6257 [18:44] <me_and_you> is the login server down ?? on the minecraft .exe
#6258 [18:44] <Chris> (at knowing the difference)
#6259 [18:44] <xales> me_and_you: it's down
#6260 [18:44] <Wept> Chris, : D
#6261 [18:44] <xales> If they are online, they are either using a pirated version or playing offline
#6262 [18:44] <me_and_you> kk ... why can all my mates login that way ... :S
#6263 [18:44] <gamakichi> ohhh
#6264 [18:44] <Shango|sogg> im playing
#6265 [18:44] <Shango|sogg> with current stuff
#6266 [18:44] <Shango|sogg> :o
#6267 [18:44] <gamakichi> ?
#6268 [18:44] <Shango|sogg> and its not a pirated version
#6269 [18:44] <xales> or got lucky and the DNS sent them to a working server
#6270 [18:44] <sprocket> hmm
#6271 [18:44] <Shango|sogg> =D
#6272 [18:44] <xales> which is a very, very small number of people
#6273 [18:44] <gamakichi> When should it be fixed?
#6274 [18:45] <Shango|sogg> < lucky
#6275 [18:45] <me_and_you> kk ^^
#6276 [18:45] <xales> gamakichi: eventually
#6277 [18:45] <gamakichi> Thanks
#6278 [18:45] <Sirwadle> If notch and crew arent willing to wake up in the middle of the night to fix something if it goes down, they shouldnt have made us pay to beta test their game
#6279 [18:45] <Shango|sogg> i can tell you all what im building if your going through withdrawls
#6280 [18:45] <sprocket> Would my friends connection be the problem I keep lagging on his server?
#6281 [18:45] <sprocket> He uses his pc for us 2
#6282 [18:45] <Gando> or using the old launcher
#6283 [18:45] <Gando> which still works, btw
#6284 [18:45] <Wept> sprocket, what connection he has?
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#6286 [18:46] <Wept> sprocket, it may also be your connection :)
#6287 [18:46] <xales> sprocket, either his connection or his computer can't handle it
#6288 [18:46] <Chris> i've basically had buttloads of hours of fun with minecraft, way more than $13 worth
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#6290 [18:46] <Wept> agreed.
#6291 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> ^ a technical term, this
#6292 [18:46] <Chris> so i couldn't really complain if the game was terminated altogether, even
#6293 [18:46] <Chris> i'd be sad
#6294 [18:47] <Chris> but i'd have gotten my money's worth and THENSOME
#6295 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
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#6297 [18:47] <Wept> this game is in BETA, just came from alpha. we can't expect 24/7 support like Blizzard or other huge companies have. Especially knowing Mojang has yet to be expanded.
#6298 [18:47] <Wept> (crosses fingers)
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#6300 [18:48] <Fear> Little known fact
#6301 [18:48] <Sirwadle> @wept Aye your right... but the fact we were made to pay to beta test other big games let us beta test for free, means we should get some hasty response when something goes wrong
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#6303 [18:48] <Fear> WoW lags after a major patch for weeks too
#6304 [18:48] <Shango|sogg> companys like blizzard dont charge for beta either
#6305 [18:48] <Shango|sogg> ;p
#6306 [18:49] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Can you confirm that the 1.3 launcher still does not login?
#6307 [18:49] <Shango|sogg> ban fear for mention wow
#6308 [18:49] <Shango|sogg> thx
#6309 [18:49] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Just wanna make sure it's not me
#6310 [18:49] <xales> Sirwadle: http://minecraft.net/copyright.jsp derp.
#6311 [18:49] <Fear> You cna mention Blizzard but I can't mention WoW?
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#6313 [18:49] <Shango|sogg> yes
#6314 [18:49] <Fear> Nice Logic champ
#6315 [18:49] <Wept> Sirwadle, compare Blizzard and Mojang. Then wonder why beta is free from blizzard.
#6316 [18:50] <Shango|sogg> its a game not a company
#6317 [18:50] <Shango|sogg> its liek trying to compare apples and oranges
#6318 [18:50] <nevercast> xales?
#6319 [18:50] <Shango|sogg> champ
#6320 [18:50] <Wept> Blizzard? It's note.
#6321 [18:50] <Wept> not *
#6322 [18:50] <xales> hi nevercast
#6323 [18:50] <nevercast> xales, Is it just me or does the new launcher still fail hard?
#6324 [18:50] <xales> still fails, because the server it uses is down
#6325 [18:50] <DJBiscuit> Is that the same case for the new server version?
#6326 [18:50] <SkiingPenguins> ... thats an oops moment i guess
#6327 [18:50] <nevercast> xales, does the older launcher still work?
#6328 [18:51] <Sirwadle> Wept Your right, but still, we are Notchs livelyhood now we pay for his living, its his job to run minecraft, if a nurse gets called in, in the middle of the night. They have to come in its their job.
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#6330 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: confirmed.
#6331 [18:51] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Thanks.
#6332 [18:51] <Sirwadle> Same with running an online-ish game, it goes down you have to fix it not keep millions waiting
#6333 [18:51] <Wept> The guy has to sleep, doesn't he?
#6334 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> Sirwadle: no one _made_ you _choose_ to buy into an early beta test of Minecraft.
#6335 [18:51] <Fear> Minecraft is life or death!
#6336 [18:51] <Shango|sogg> whats sleep?
#6337 [18:51] <Wept> Nurses sleep after night shifts during the day.
#6338 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> Sirwadle: if you wanted stable, you should have waited.
#6339 [18:51] <nevercast> Wept, Actually Notch was having a NERF Gun battle last I checked lol.
#6340 [18:52] <nevercast> ^
#6341 [18:52] <Wept> Nevercast, haha :p
#6342 [18:52] <Fear> Especially when he's probably not even the server admin
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#6344 [18:52] <Sirwadle> I dont want stable, I want someone on the job immediately when something goes wrong.
#6345 [18:52] <SkiingPenguins> good luck finding that
#6346 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, hah
#6347 [18:53] <DJBiscuit> Are there any known bugs with the new server jar/exe? I get some java errors
#6348 [18:53] <Sirwadle> Im not sure how many people within his staff can handle this issue atm, but if there is more than one, he should have them rotating shifts,
#6349 [18:53] <lemon-rev> sirwadle then go make your own game and see hwo it feels then
#6350 [18:53] <SkiingPenguins> havent you noticed mojang has less than 20 people?
#6351 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> And for fuck's sake, Amazon can't even keep the _control panels_ for their EC2 customers working. It's not Mojang's fault that Amazon is a shitty hosting company. They are working on a new server arrangement, but want it done right, not just done quickly this time.
#6352 [18:53] <Sirwadle> one is there from 12 am to pm
#6353 [18:53] <nevercast> It's not notch's problem that a mentric shit-tonne of 13 year olds got hooked on the Alpha / Beta game of theirs like Life and Death.. This thing is not even at stable release yet and you expect it to be problem free? It'll be fixed.. WHEN IT'S FIXED.. until then, play offline.
#6354 [18:53] <Sirwadle> other is from 12pm to am
#6355 [18:53] <SkiingPenguins> Sirwadle you're sounding pretty stuck up.. do you live in the city perhaps?
#6356 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, work 12 horus
#6357 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Uh-huh
#6358 [18:53] <Fear> I'm glad you're not my boss
#6359 [18:53] <SkiingPenguins> it's INDIE NOW STFU ;)
#6360 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: troll's gonna troll, I guess.
#6361 [18:54] <SkiingPenguins> stuck up little kids wanting everything given to them :/
#6362 [18:54] <Sirwadle> Well point is, if he has 2 people who can handle one type of problem
#6363 [18:54] <Sirwadle> dont have them both there at the same time
#6364 [18:54] <nevercast> Sirwadle, Why don't you waddle yourself out of here before i pimp slap you :)
#6365 [18:54] <Fear> Wish I was still in school and could play mc 24 hours a day
#6366 [18:54] <nevercast> ^
#6367 [18:54] <aetherian> lul
#6368 [18:54] <nevercast> My College is currently Rubble afaik so I've got lots of free time.. derp
#6369 [18:54] <SkiingPenguins> oh you're in NZ?
#6370 [18:55] <nevercast> yeah
#6371 [18:55] <Sirwadle> Hows that tower thats about to fall over?
#6372 [18:55] <Sirwadle> Is it still standin?
#6373 [18:55] <nevercast> Sirwadle, Yeah for the moment.
#6374 [18:55] <SkiingPenguins> that's the leaning tower in europe
#6375 [18:55] <SkiingPenguins> oh a new one? :O
#6376 [18:55] <nevercast> LOL
#6377 [18:55] <nevercast> Yeah a massive hotel
#6378 [18:55] <nevercast> Grand Chancellor
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#6380 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> ??+ mc.net/hosting|Stop bitching about Mojang supposedly not being able to handle server administration. Amazon can't even keep the _control panels_ for their EC2 customers working. It's not Mojang's fault that Amazon is a shitty hosting company. Mojang are working on a new server arrangement, but want it done right, not just done quickly this time.
#6381 [18:55] <nevercast> It's about to topple
#6382 [18:56] <Chris> holy cow
#6383 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> Rant FAQ'd for future use.
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#6385 [18:56] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, nice ;)
#6386 [18:56] <SkiingPenguins> DopeGhoti: :D :D
#6387 [18:56] <Sirwadle> Go an record it falling never on a high quality camera,
#6388 [18:56] <Sirwadle> sick of things falling down and ya get 280p phone camera shots
#6389 [18:56] <Sirwadle> need to make sure we got high def stuff on youtube
#6390 [18:56] <nevercast> Sirwadle, Yeah you can't get into Christchurch.. It's cordoned off by the Army
#6391 [18:57] <Shango|sogg> well if i bought a pack of M&M's and only had 1 inside , id probly feel jiped.
#6392 [18:57] <Sirwadle> Its a tower? im sure you climb on a roof nearby
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#6394 [18:57] <Sirwadle> and youll be able to see it?
#6395 [18:57] <SkiingPenguins> http://skiingpenguins.pastebin.com/xZYEzSP7 <- YARR!!
#6396 [18:57] <HerrYuri> Hey guys, I'm running a MC server on a computer that I have used to run countless servers before for MMO emulators etc but MC is the only one that's ever had like a 10-15 second consistent lag
#6397 [18:57] <HerrYuri> any ideas?
#6398 [18:57] <nevercast> ACTUALLY!! How about you go in there with your HD Handcam, Sirwadle. Could be funny to see you get shot
#6399 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Shango|sogg: not if you bought it from the Factory Seconds bin.
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#6401 [18:57] <xales> HerrYuri: What, exactly, are the specs of the server?
#6402 [18:57] <Shango|sogg> but thats where the double M&M's are:( the good ones are the melted ones anyways
#6403 [18:58] <Fear> Somebody ban Shango|sogg for mentioning M&Ms please
#6404 [18:58] <Shango|sogg> mmm
#6405 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> HerrYuri: unlike other games where the map doesn't change, Minecraft uses a veritable firehose of data to and from each client.
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#6407 [18:58] <Wept> MEH, it's 2AM already. FML.
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#6410 [18:58] <HerrYuri> it's a dual core windows xp machine clocked to 2.8 with 2 gigs of RAM lol is that too lame for MC
#6411 [18:58] <Shango|sogg> only 2 gigs?
#6412 [18:58] <Shango|sogg> ;\
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#6414 [18:59] <Wept> HerrYuri: I got Quad with 4GB Ram, 100/10 Internet and I still experience some lagg here and there.
#6415 [18:59] <Shango|sogg> i got a terabite of ram in my pc
#6416 [18:59] <Shango|sogg> i win
#6417 [18:59] <xales> Wept: he left :P
#6418 [18:59] <SkiingPenguins> umm
#6419 [18:59] <Wept> why does everyone hate me.
#6420 [18:59] <Wept> :(
#6421 [18:59] <SkiingPenguins> you weep
#6422 [18:59] <nevercast> I love you Wept
#6423 [18:59] <Shango|sogg> becasue you ate our M&M's?
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#6425 [18:59] <Wept> HerrYuri: I got Quad with 4GB Ram, 100/10 Internet and I still experience some lagg here and there.
#6426 [18:59] <xales> lol
#6427 [18:59] <Wept> ...
#6428 [18:59] <xales> hemad.
#6429 [18:59] <Wept> serious.
#6430 [19:00] <Sirwadle> wept im still here. I love you
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#6432 [19:00] <xales> oh, nevercast
#6433 [19:00] <xales> by the way
#6434 [19:00] * xales queries you
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#6435 [19:00] <Shango|sogg> hrm
#6436 [19:00] <ctgerber_> wow wept do you even know what you just said about your internet
#6437 [19:00] <Shango|sogg> whats the emote command for mirc?
#6438 [19:00] <Wept> 100/10 ?
#6439 [19:00] <Fear> /quit
#6440 [19:00] <HerrYuri> wow mibbit just crashed out of irc on me lol.. so is the problem the platform the server is hosted on?
#6441 [19:00] <Wept> 100M DL 10M UL, what's not to understand.
#6442 [19:01] <Shango|sogg> i thought it was /M&M's
#6443 [19:01] <ctgerber_> ok nvm
#6444 [19:01] <xales> HerrYuri: yeah
#6445 [19:01] <xales> 2GB of RAM might just scrape by
#6446 [19:01] <xales> if you have nothing else running
#6447 [19:01] <HerrYuri> Ahh
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#6449 [19:01] <Shango|sogg> actually i still laged a bit with 2
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#6451 [19:02] <Shango|sogg> but no problems with 4=d
#6452 [19:02] <Shango|sogg> i run alot of garbo programs tho
#6453 [19:02] <Shango|sogg> *cough*
#6454 [19:02] <HerrYuri> what about 4 gigs on a core 2 duo lol
#6455 [19:02] <Wept> Much better tbh. But still, I got a quad and lag here and there with 4 gigs.
#6456 [19:03] <xales> Depends on the per-core speed
#6457 [19:03] <xales> Minecraft has no multithreading capability
#6458 [19:03] <zrbecker_> Are a lot of people still having issues logging in to Minecraft on Mac? I can't get in but I thought Notch updated it. =\
#6459 [19:03] <Shango|sogg> your fault for buying a mac
#6460 [19:03] * Shango|sogg slaps zrbecker_ around a bit with a large trout
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#6461 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> ??>> zrbecker_ overloaded
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#6463 [19:04] <aetherian> lolmirc
#6464 [19:04] * xales slaps Shango|sogg around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
#6464 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> Shango|sogg: Kindly don't go out of your way to start flamewars.
#6465 [19:04] <zrbecker_> Got it thanks. And macs own. =)
#6466 [19:04] <Shango|sogg> XD
#6467 [19:04] <Shango|sogg> but its a mac...
#6468 [19:04] * aetherian facepalms
#6468 [19:04] <Shango|sogg> not needed
#6469 [19:04] * DopeGhoti kicked Shango|sogg from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Shango|sogg)
#6470 [19:04] <aetherian> he did have a point...
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#6472 [19:04] <Shango|sogg> <3
#6473 [19:04] * SkiingPenguins believes he should go do his homework now
#6473 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: yes, he probably should.
#6474 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> (In truth, I should be doing my workwork now)
#6475 [19:05] <Shango|sogg> if id been using a mac probly would of crashed my computer
#6476 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> "would have".
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#6479 [19:06] <DJBiscuit> Does the latest server work? I was running mc b1.2 but the 1.3 server doesn't work for me anymore
#6480 [19:07] <xales> "doesn't work"
#6481 [19:07] <xales> how
#6482 [19:07] <DJBiscuit> Java execption
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#6484 [19:07] <DJBiscuit> I can copy the exact error if you'd like
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#6487 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> kindly pastebin it
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#6489 [19:08] <mm> hi
#6490 [19:08] <mm> i have a problem
#6491 [19:08] <LRWerewolf> DJBiscuit, when asking for help, ALWAYS provide the actual error, using pastbin if it's two or more lines.
#6492 [19:08] <aetherian> ??> mm ask
#6493 [19:08] <VoxelHead> mm: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#6494 [19:08] <mr_trousers> are the game servers down cannot connect to minecraft.net
#6495 [19:08] <VoxelHead> mm: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#6496 [19:09] * DopeGhoti wonders if mm is short circuiting.
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#6497 [19:09] <DJBiscuit> DopeGhoti here you are: http://pastebin.com/qWbfna0F
#6498 [19:09] <Johnny5> it's simple, I can't run minecraft I keep getting the "not responding' message
#6499 [19:09] <xales> DJBiscuit: are you running any mods on the server?
#6500 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> ??> Johnny5 errpr
#6501 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> ??> Johnny5 error
#6502 [19:09] <VoxelHead> Johnny5: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#6503 [19:09] <DJBiscuit> None
#6504 [19:09] <aetherian> fail
#6505 [19:09] <VoxelHead> Johnny5: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#6506 [19:10] <Johnny5> i get the AppHangB1 error
#6507 [19:10] <mr_trousers> I am not getting any errors I just cannot connect to servers.
#6508 [19:10] <mr_trousers> are they down?
#6509 [19:11] <DJBiscuit> xales all I had done is downloaded the new minecraft_server.jar and had replaced the one I had before. Nothing has been modified
#6510 [19:11] * lemon-rev ha moon and sun no longer sit at 12 at night and day it keeps moving same speed making it shorta just a tad :P
#6510 [19:11] <xales> DJBiscuit: Download it again, it just seems like you got a bad download
#6511 [19:11] <xales> mr_trousers: the login server is down
#6512 [19:11] <ItsDanzigmf> im having the same problem mr_trousers is
#6513 [19:11] <ItsDanzigmf> mine sits on the "connecting to server" screen indefinitely
#6514 [19:12] <LRWerewolf> DJBiscuit: earlier someone was saying they were having trouble with the jar but the .exe worked fine. What OS are you running your server on?
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#6517 [19:12] <xales> ItsDanzigmf: then the server you are connecting to is probably down
#6518 [19:13] <ItsDanzigmf> @xales: several of my friends are playing on it right meow.
#6519 [19:13] <DJBiscuit> LRWerewolf I am running Windows Server 2003. Both the jar and exe don't run for me
#6520 [19:13] <xales> ItsDanzigmf: no idea then...
#6521 [19:13] <LRWerewolf> DJBiscuit, *nods* Fair 'nough then.
#6522 [19:13] <DJBiscuit> same error as the one in the pastebin link
#6523 [19:13] <xales> DJBiscuit: Try copying them to a new folder, with nothing but the .exe in there
#6524 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> DJBiscuit: try reinstalling java. Alternatively
#6525 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> ??> DJBiscuit win/profile
#6526 [19:14] <VoxelHead> DJBiscuit: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#6527 [19:14] <VoxelHead> DJBiscuit: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#6528 [19:15] <Johnny5> this is what i get in the report: http://pastebin.com/Lhtyrtwq
#6529 [19:15] <DJBiscuit> New folder didn't work, however I'll try another profile
#6530 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> Johnny5: you might want also to try the above experiment.
#6531 [19:17] <DJBiscuit> Still getting the errors
#6532 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> (FWIW, the auth server seems to be responding a bit faster now, though I can't positively test from here)
#6533 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> DJBiscuit: next step would be to try reinstalling Java.
#6534 [19:17] <DJBiscuit> I'll give re-installing java a go
#6535 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> good luck
#6536 [19:17] <Johnny5> i did that already
#6537 [19:17] <Shango|sogg> or make sure your java ius up to date
#6538 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> Johnny5: you already tried creating a new Windows profile?
#6539 [19:18] <Johnny5> oh no, redownloading java
#6540 [19:18] <Johnny5> ill try that
#6541 [19:19] <Stefflus83> Hi, just bought the game, can't connect to minecraft.net it says, is there a problem with the server or does it take a while for it to register?
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#6543 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> ??> Stefflus83 overloaded
#6544 [19:19] <VoxelHead> Stefflus83: (overloaded) The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#6545 [19:19] <Stefflus83> ah ty
#6546 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> quite welcome
#6547 [19:20] <Stefflus83> and they only fix such things in swedish working hours?
#6548 [19:20] <xales> indeed
#6549 [19:20] <xales> they are waiting to move to a new host
#6550 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> Stefflus83: They often pull all-nighters, but can't do so every day.
#6551 [19:20] <xales> the current one can't even keep the customer control panel online
#6552 [19:20] <h1e> so we just have to wait and use the browser?
#6553 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#6554 [19:21] <Shango|sogg> ??>
#6555 [19:21] <h1e> k .. but its annoying .. have no sound in browser :D
#6556 [19:21] <Shango|sogg> ??> bacon
#6557 [19:22] <zrbecker> h1e, I was able to log in using the client after using the in browser client. I think it downloaded whatever it needed.
#6558 [19:22] <ItsDanzigmf> has anyone else been having trouble connecting to servers, once signed in?
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#6562 [19:22] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#6563 [19:22] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#6565 [19:23] <h1e> But the Launcher tells me
#6566 [19:23] <h1e> Cant connect to Mine...
#6567 [19:23] <TheNytangel> me too
#6568 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> The website is up
#6569 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> ?? overloaded
#6570 [19:23] <VoxelHead> overloaded: The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#6571 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> The authentication server is..
#6572 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> ^
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#6575 [19:28] <Epademic> Hey everyone.
#6576 [19:28] <Shango|sogg> yes
#6577 [19:28] <Shango|sogg> and yes i can read your mind
#6578 [19:28] <Epademic> Uhh, Trying to figure out why i'm not able to connect to the minecrafts server, Like is notch bust coding it or something?
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#6580 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#6581 [19:29] <VoxelHead> overloaded: The authentication server for the downloaded client is overloaded at the moment. Only solution right now is to either use the in-browser client, or wait for them to fix it.
#6582 [19:29] <Epademic> I'm in the process of trying to make a minecraft server for my friends and me to play on, And well, Not being able to get onto mulitplayer does generally effect that abality.
#6583 [19:29] * DopeGhoti is thinking of binding that FAQ to JOINs
#6583 [19:29] <Shango|sogg> i think thats a good idea
#6584 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Didn't expect that to get used this much today
#6585 [19:29] <Shango|sogg> heh
#6586 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> I would've made a better one
#6587 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Feel free to ??~ it
#6588 [19:29] <lemon-rev> grey i told you to do it yesterday
#6589 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, no you didn't
#6590 [19:30] <Shango|sogg> yes he did
#6591 [19:30] <Shango|sogg> i got ss's
#6592 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Lies
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#6594 [19:30] <Epademic> I've gone threw the FAQ and the Forum's and haven't got any help sense i began to eyerape the browser page attempting to get an explination.
#6595 [19:30] <lemon-rev> i said anyone that cant read topic gets kicked
#6596 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> And 'shopped
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#6598 [19:30] <Shango|sogg> ya i lie:(
#6599 [19:30] <Epademic> I suppose an older version of the minecraft client would work then wouldn't it?
#6600 [19:30] <DJBiscuit> DopeGhoti after re-installing java still getting that same error..
#6601 [19:30] <Shango|sogg> yes but dont ask for it here:P
#6602 [19:30] <lemon-rev> and i said, that they need to be told like minecraft.net server =offilne or somecrap
#6603 [19:30] <Epademic> i know that :p
#6604 [19:30] <Epademic> We have google.
#6605 [19:31] <Shango|sogg> then gogogo
#6606 [19:31] <Epademic> I'm already 20 sets ahead of you mate :p
#6607 [19:31] <Epademic> If anyone wants later on once i get some stuff built in the server, you can all jump on it, Its gonna be a survival/freebuild :s
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#6610 [19:32] <Shango|sogg> not until notch adds catapults
#6611 [19:32] <aetherian> he shouldn't....
#6612 [19:32] <Epademic> no no he shouldnt.
#6613 [19:32] <Shango|sogg> who dosent want to lob tnt at their friends castle?
#6614 [19:32] <SkiingPenguins> me
#6615 [19:32] <Epademic> Uhh, Me?
#6616 [19:32] <SkiingPenguins> it'd slow down my computer a lot
#6617 [19:32] <aetherian> I can already do that
#6618 [19:33] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#6619 [19:33] <Epademic> Only times i've ever used TNT, Was to clear out a cave.
#6620 [19:33] <Epademic> And my personal favour
#6621 [19:33] <Epademic> to take care of a mob spawner (:D
#6622 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> ??~ overloaded|If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6623 [19:33] <Shango|sogg> only function ive found for tnt is setting traps=D
#6624 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#6625 [19:33] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6626 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> That's a tad better
#6627 [19:33] <TheNytangel> my trap includes 8 stone pressure plates and a block of TNT XD
#6628 [19:34] <Epademic> Sweet, Alright thanks i'll go try that sense the hunt for an alternate version of MC isn't anywhere to be found on the interwebs
#6629 [19:34] <aetherian> I know some great traps
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#6631 [19:34] <SkiingPenguins> Epademic alternate version?
#6632 [19:34] <TheNytangel> i just dig a hole, put tnt in it, and surround it with stone pressure plates
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#6634 [19:35] <SkiingPenguins> dig a random hole in the ground and put tnt then put one pessureplate so it looks mysterious
#6635 [19:35] <Shango|sogg> afk nacho/M&M time=D
#6636 [19:35] <swift22> So I just bought the game using a credit card and I can't connect?
#6637 [19:36] <aetherian> no...
#6638 [19:36] <lemon-rev> swift22 try the game in browser
#6639 [19:36] <Sirwadle> Login is down, itll be back up again in awhile
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#6641 [19:36] <swift22> Makes sense
#6642 [19:36] <swift22> Thanks
#6643 [19:36] <Epademic> Uhh alright i got some work to do i guess, I don't know what the HELL i'm suppose to do xDD
#6644 [19:37] <sprocket> the games being silly
#6645 [19:37] <sprocket> I cant log in to the new server Ican only log in with the broswer version
#6646 [19:37] <sprocket> the client is being odd
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#6648 [19:37] <mib_la1v2q> hya guys
#6649 [19:37] <xales> hi
#6650 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#6652 [19:38] <lemon-rev> sprocket try redownloading the jar or exe of minecraft and see if that helps
#6653 [19:38] <mib_la1v2q> I need some help real quick with a Java Error
#6654 [19:38] <sprocket> trying
#6655 [19:38] <xales> ??> mib_la1v2q error
#6656 [19:38] <sprocket> I erased my old internet files
#6657 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_la1v2q - Can you pastebin the error?
#6658 [19:38] <VoxelHead> mib_la1v2q: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#6659 [19:38] <VoxelHead> mib_la1v2q: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#6660 [19:38] <sprocket> and the miencraft folder
#6661 [19:38] <DJBiscuit> xales I'm still getting that same error after re-installing java
#6662 [19:38] <mib_la1v2q> ah, sorry
#6663 [19:38] <mib_la1v2q> hold on, I need to find it again
#6664 [19:38] <sprocket> saying I cant connect to minecraft.net
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#6666 [19:38] <xales> DJBiscuit: starting the server in a new directory, doesn't work as well?
#6667 [19:39] <xales> sprocket: it says that for everyone
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#6669 [19:39] <blood_display> Anyone here
#6670 [19:39] <sprocket> this game needs to get its stuff together before it looses its fan base lol
#6671 [19:39] <blood_display> Any OPS here?
#6672 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> blood_display - Yes
#6673 [19:39] <DJBiscuit> no it didn't xales
#6674 [19:39] <blood_display> GreyVulpine PM
#6675 [19:39] <espasmato> gah still not working
#6676 [19:39] <espasmato> lol
#6677 [19:39] <xales> ??> blood_display dontpm
#6678 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> sprocket - With over a million strong? I don't think that's likely
#6679 [19:39] <xales> ??> blood_display irc/dontpm
#6680 [19:39] <VoxelHead> blood_display: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#6681 [19:39] <Doombringa23> Im having some trouble logging into Minecraft, I open the client and click login and It says I cant connect to minecraft.net
#6682 [19:39] <xales> ??> Doombringa23 overloaded
#6683 [19:39] <VoxelHead> Doombringa23: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6684 [19:40] <mib_la1v2q> I think it's a Java SP Error
#6685 [19:40] <DJBiscuit> xales could it be the same problem as the clients face. Where it cannot connect to minecraft.net or does the server not bother with that
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#6687 [19:40] <sprocket> Grey :) even if world of warcraft were to screw their servers over they would loose their fan base.
#6688 [19:40] <sprocket> 1 million down to 0 in a heart beat.
#6689 [19:41] <sprocket> cant play why bother.
#6690 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Very unlikely
#6691 [19:41] <xales> DJBiscuit: Unlikely
#6692 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Most people here understand that when they bought the game, it's an unfinished, in-development product
#6693 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> This sort of stuff is expected
#6694 [19:41] <Shango|sogg> hence BETA
#6695 [19:42] <Shango|sogg> mmm nachos
#6696 [19:42] <xales> It's also why you pay less - you aren't getting a complete, finished, fully working product
#6697 [19:42] <jj007force> can someone explain why the new launcher is having trouble logging in, while the old launcher is working fine?
#6698 [19:42] <sprocket> We paid we expect some type of stability? most of us want to be playing multiplayer that means helping out the servers before updating and having them left in the dust for a couple of days.. lol they have no abilities to protect that means griefers.. which in turn causes drama.. which in turn causes people to quit :) theirs a lot of consequences for lack
#6699 [19:42] <sprocket> of organization .
#6700 [19:42] <xales> ??> sprocket mc.net/hosting
#6701 [19:42] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (mc.net/hosting) Stop bitching about Mojang supposedly not being able to handle server administration. Amazon can't even keep the _control panels_ for their EC2 customers working. It's not Mojang's fault that Amazon is a shitty hosting company. Mojang are working on a new server arrangement, but want it done right, not just done quickly this time.
#6702 [19:42] <BarryCarlyon> sprocket: its a beta.
#6703 [19:42] <xales> jj007force: they use different authentication servers
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#6705 [19:43] <sprocket> It wont be long with this kinda customer support before you loose your customer base
#6706 [19:43] <Kevitivity> beta = expect bugs
#6707 [19:43] <BarryCarlyon> You say your. We don't work for Mojang.
#6708 [19:44] <BarryCarlyon> Its not out fault there are problems, nor is it our fault you don't appear to understand what a beta is.
#6709 [19:44] <xales> sprocket: stop bitching about it. last warning.
#6710 [19:44] <sprocket> I'll be spreading the word dont worry :) wurm online is much better.. and much more elaborate lush forests deep caverns... cities and civilations ... in depth crafting ... Mine craft blocks and really poor customer service :)
#6711 [19:44] <BarryCarlyon> And to take it another way EA sold a game with more busg than this.
#6712 [19:44] <Shango|sogg> then go away
#6713 [19:44] <Shango|sogg> have fun with your wurm
#6714 [19:45] <sprocket> :) I will.
#6715 [19:45] <sprocket> thank you.
#6716 [19:45] <xales> jj007force: any reason you are trying to DCC me? =/
#6717 [19:45] <Shango|sogg> he thinks hes a jedi?
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#6720 [19:45] <UK_Nitro> Hi all
#6721 [19:45] <Shango|sogg> yo
#6722 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#6723 [19:45] <BarryCarlyon> HI!
#6724 [19:46] <jj007force> sorry about that xales
#6725 [19:46] <jj007force> im new to irc
#6726 [19:46] <Shango|sogg> ...
#6727 [19:46] <Pinball_wizard> same here
#6728 [19:46] <UK_Nitro> I'm new to Minecraft
#6729 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Well, welcome.
#6730 [19:46] <UK_Nitro> Hooked already
#6731 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> UK_Nitro: that happens a lot.
#6732 [19:47] <sprocket> If your debating on buying minecraft, do yourself a favor before its too late save your 20$ and play a real game... hooked for 3days and then they screw you like a man fucking a wirey squirrel.
#6733 [19:47] <Shango|sogg> ban him already
#6734 [19:47] <Shango|sogg> jesus
#6735 [19:47] * GreyVulpine sighs
#6735 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> soon you'll be jonesing for your fix and acting all entitled about things. Except you're not American, so probably not.
#6736 [19:47] <Shango|sogg> troll
#6737 [19:47] <Shango|sogg> ;\
#6738 [19:47] * GreyVulpine kicked sprocket from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: 4*BAM*)
#6739 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> thanks, GreyVulpine
#6740 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Meh
#6741 [19:47] <Pinball_wizard> anyone else having issues connecting to minecraft.net with the new launcher?
#6742 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#6743 [19:47] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6744 [19:48] <Pinball_wizard> but I can connect if I use minecraft.net/game
#6745 [19:48] <BarryCarlyon> To explain why sproket was banned, he doesn't understand the term Beta. And just keeps bitching about MineCraft as a result.
#6746 [19:48] <UK_Nitro> I was wondering if there was a way to stop it autosaving say when you make a mistake?
#6747 [19:48] <xales> UK_Nitro: Nope
#6748 [19:48] <xales> Pinball_wizard: The minecraft.net server and the auth server are seperate
#6749 [19:48] <lemon-rev> nitro what type of mistake your talking about
#6750 [19:49] <UK_Nitro> Shame cause I would like it not to save when I bring up the menu and load my previous save
#6751 [19:49] <Pinball_wizard> oh, thanks then
#6752 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> UK_Nitro: you can back up your save directory before starting on something dangerous
#6753 [19:49] <lemon-rev> nitro it doesnt work like a regular game, where you can save offten and just go back if oyu stuff up, you basicly just get the things you need and keep going
#6754 [19:49] <UK_Nitro> Like when exploring i've dug somewhere and flooded below
#6755 [19:50] <lemon-rev> lol, well nitro you just like get back there swim up and block that off again
#6756 [19:50] <Shango|sogg> or just dump lava in your water
#6757 [19:50] <Shango|sogg> thats whati do
#6758 [19:50] <Shango|sogg> =D
#6759 [19:50] <lemon-rev> i've done it on numerous occasions and still love it, cause i can choose if i want to keep it going
#6760 [19:50] <lemon-rev> lol
#6761 [19:50] <UK_Nitro> I know but i've done it where i'm growing stuff underground and it's ruined them lol
#6762 [19:51] <lemon-rev> welll nitro just be more carefull :P
#6763 [19:51] <UK_Nitro> And all torches went out
#6764 [19:51] <Shango|sogg> it takes like what 15 mins for somthing to grow?
#6765 [19:51] <lemon-rev> well put them on walls then nitro insted of floors
#6766 [19:51] <blood_display> Xales: When I load Minecraft (Alpha) it says "Erro. Click for details.
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#6768 [19:51] <xales> blood_display: you are playing alpha?
#6769 [19:51] <lemon-rev> blood wtf alpha
#6770 [19:51] <xales> alpha is gone
#6771 [19:51] <xales> you are using the pirated one still then...
#6772 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> "I get errors now when I play indev, wtf?"
#6773 [19:51] <blood_display> What do you mean?
#6774 [19:52] <xales> alpha doesn't exist any more
#6775 [19:52] <blood_display> I mean SMP than
#6776 [19:52] <DreamPhysix> Are the MineCraft authorization servers still overloaded? I haven't been able to login since yesterday from my launcher.
#6777 [19:52] <xales> you can't even play it
#6778 [19:52] <xales> DreamPhysix: indeed
#6779 [19:52] <Shango|sogg> ??> overloaded
#6780 [19:52] <Shango|sogg> =D
#6781 [19:52] <DreamPhysix> Alright, just making sure.
#6782 [19:52] <blood_display> When I play Minecraft Beta it says "Erro. Click for details.
#6783 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> blood_display: did you try clicking, and reading the details?
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#6786 [19:53] <blood_display> It's all code.
#6787 [19:53] <blood_display> I don't read code.
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#6789 [19:53] <ssdfsdf> Why cannot i log in?
#6790 [19:53] <xales> blood_display: then pastebin it
#6791 [19:53] <xales> ??> ssdfsdf overloaded
#6792 [19:53] <VoxelHead> ssdfsdf: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6793 [19:54] <UK_Nitro> Is there any way to stop water from "flowing" say when I extend a pool, it's continuously filling?
#6794 [19:54] <blood_display> Xales: Okay, wait.
#6795 [19:54] <blood_display> Xales: http://pastebin.com/874zL1B4
#6796 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> doooope
#6797 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> xales
#6798 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead hates me
#6799 [19:56] <xales> :<
#6800 [19:56] <blood_display> Why?
#6801 [19:56] <xales> blood_display: what version of Windows is this computer running? XP?
#6802 [19:56] <blood_display> Vista
#6803 [19:57] <blood_display> The one hosting my server is Win7
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#6806 [19:57] <MisterTickles> Anyone at all knows how beds affect spawn points in SMP?
#6807 [19:57] <xales> blood_display: install Windows Update
#6808 [19:57] <xales> MisterTickles: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
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#6810 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: eh?
#6811 [19:58] <blood_display> Xales: How?
#6812 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> ?
#6813 [19:58] <xales> blood_display: Control Panel -> Windows Update
#6814 [19:58] <blood_display> Thanks, i'll do late.r
#6815 [19:58] <blood_display> Peace!
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#6820 [20:00] <UK_Nitro> Is it possible to do in my previous question?
#6821 [20:00] <espasmato> any eta on getting the launcher fixed yet?
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#6823 [20:01] <xales> espasmato: nope
#6824 [20:01] <xales> UK_Nitro: ?
#6825 [20:01] <Hayden> I Have Been Waiting 8 Hours And It Still Says "Cant Connect To Minecraft.net"
#6826 [20:01] <UK_Nitro> About extending a pool the water continuously flows but wodered if you can settle it
#6827 [20:01] <UK_Nitro> *wondered
#6828 [20:02] <Hayden> Can someone help me?
#6829 [20:02] <xales> ??> Hayden overloaded
#6830 [20:02] <VoxelHead> Hayden: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6831 [20:02] <Hayden> O ok Thanks
#6832 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> UK_Nitro: if you're looking for the 'extended' area to be still water, this can be done with bucketry.
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#6834 [20:04] <UK_Nitro> Thanks I guessed it was cause there is now more space but not enough water?
#6835 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> UK_Nitro: fluids have interesting properties in Minecraftian physics.
#6836 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> a still block is also a 'source' block which will create 'flowing' blocks in adjacent empty spaces
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#6839 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> If there are two or more adjecent source blocks of water, a new source block is formed (think 'Life') (also, I'm oversimplifying)
#6840 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> s/two/three/
#6841 [20:06] <CoLoN> someone teach me java :(
#6842 [20:06] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#6843 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> CoLoN: #coders
#6844 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> cout << "Java sucks\nLearnC";
#6845 [20:07] <UK_Nitro> I appreciate it
#6846 [20:07] <CoLoN> yea but its for class...
#6847 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> s/C/C++/#FTFY if you mean to use cout
#6848 [20:07] <CoLoN> next semester is c++
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#6850 [20:07] <SkiingPenguins> MsgBox, AutoHotKey Rules
#6851 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Bah, yeah.
#6852 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> CoLoN: wait, you're learning C++, _then_ Java?
#6853 [20:08] <Famerdavemobile> Is there a reason we can't play multiplayer?
#6854 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#6855 [20:08] * DopeGhoti stabs your ciricula designer in the neck with a bowling ball
#6855 [20:08] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6856 [20:08] <Famerdavemobile> I can connect to game, but server authentication fails
#6857 [20:08] <Famerdavemobile> Like for everyone
#6858 [20:08] <CoLoN> no
#6859 [20:08] <Famerdavemobile> Anyone else on servers?
#6860 [20:09] <CoLoN> java then c++
#6861 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Why.. are you learning two different languages..?
#6862 [20:09] <CoLoN> idk its the professors
#6863 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> What sort of crap school is this?
#6864 [20:09] <CoLoN> we gotta learn like 3/4 languages
#6865 [20:09] <nevercast> !paid nevercast
#6866 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> I mean, I can understand if you're in the middle of a curriculum change, and they're gradually moving from C++ to java
#6867 [20:10] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, How do I make a pressure pad toggle a redstone torch?
#6868 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> ... but that's crap
#6869 [20:10] <zrbecker> A lot of schools teach courses in different languages but the lessons are mostly language independent.
#6870 [20:10] <Famerdavemobile> Does anyone know why the servers are down?
#6871 [20:10] <Famerdavemobile> Since there asleep in Sweden
#6872 [20:10] <xales> Famerdavemobile: it was already said...
#6873 [20:10] <xales> ?? overloaded
#6874 [20:10] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6875 [20:10] <lemon-rev> ?? overloaded
#6876 [20:10] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6877 [20:10] <lemon-rev> lol oops
#6878 [20:10] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#6878 [20:11] <UK_Nitro> Opens more possibillities I guess
#6879 [20:11] <xales> DopeGhoti: 10 second delay after a FAQ is used before being used again please
#6880 [20:11] <zrbecker> I don't think moving between C++ and Java is really a huge leap.
#6881 [20:11] <Famerdavemobile> Ok
#6882 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> xales: I'll see what I can do
#6883 [20:11] <xales> thanks
#6884 [20:11] <CoLoN> i have to make my own public string class
#6885 [20:11] <CoLoN> idk what im doing
#6886 [20:12] <Famerdavemobile> Well is minecraft working for anybody else, it's been broke for 4 hours
#6887 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> zrbecker - I'd like to disagree. Starting off with java, then moving onto C++ can give bad programming habits.
#6888 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> zrbecker: it's like doing all your geometry in degrees and then suddenly switching to radians.
#6889 [20:12] <xales> Famerdavemobile: Did you read what it said...?
#6890 [20:12] <Famerdavemobile> Yea
#6891 [20:12] <xales> So no, it isn't
#6892 [20:12] <Famerdavemobile> I was just wondering if anyone else could get on
#6893 [20:12] <Famerdavemobile> Ok, thanks
#6894 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Depending on java's garbage collector for memory management, first off, as well as learning the basic containers.
#6895 [20:12] <Famerdavemobile> Bye
#6896 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> No. No one else can get on. Anyone saying otherwise is selling something.
#6897 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> arrays, vectors, stacks, and so on
#6898 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> </snark>
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#6900 [20:13] <xales> GreyVulpine: writing a string "class" is easier in C++ than Java =/
#6901 [20:13] <xales> which is the worst part, heh
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#6903 [20:13] <xales> pointer arithmetic! \o/
#6904 [20:13] <zrbecker> I went the other way, so I guess I never really noticed.
#6905 [20:13] * GreyVulpine loved pointer arithmetic
#6905 [20:13] * xales wonders if there is any practical use for multiplying or dividing pointers, hehe
#6905 [20:13] <CoLoN> meh idk how to start it
#6906 [20:13] <zrbecker> Java was just C++ with the occasional strange syntax thing and less book keeping.
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#6908 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> zrbecker - Overloading std methods in C++ vs java :)
#6909 [20:16] <mib_la1v2q> ah, I found that bug!
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#6912 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> C++ has seen people in love, and thinks it has everything figured out. C++ thinks it loves you, but it errs on the side of being controlling when it thinks it's being concerned and caring. Java: You try to be loving, but you were raised by a commune of 60 nervous women who have told you that everything you do is loving, even when it isn't. Your unhelpful behaviors have never been corrected and everything you do is subtly wrong and des
#6913 [20:17] <mib_la1v2q> Java(TM) Platform SE Binary is not Responding
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#6915 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> "subtly wrong and des-"
#6916 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> tructive.
#6917 [20:17] <mib_la1v2q> I have no idea why that's happening, what that means or what I can do about it
#6918 [20:17] <xales> mib_la1v2q: when do you get that?
#6919 [20:17] <mib_la1v2q> I get it at random times in the game
#6920 [20:18] <TheNytangel> i has question.. is there a way to put my map on my server?
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#6922 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes TheNytangel.
#6923 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> http://maradydd.livejournal.com/293666.html <-- Programming languages as relationships
#6924 [20:18] <mib_la1v2q> one moment I'll be playing the game & the next, the game screen goes black, then light grey & then I get that message
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#6926 [20:18] <TheNytangel> Thats it?
#6927 [20:18] <andResin> hey
#6928 [20:18] <zippity> I cannot connect to minecraft.net through my launcher. but i can through the browser. my launcher still says 1.3 although i redownloaded it. on the browser it says 1.3.01 and it updated when i played on the browser
#6929 [20:18] <TheNytangel> "Yes"
#6930 [20:18] <TheNytangel> no way how to do it?
#6931 [20:18] <xales> ??> zippity overloaded
#6932 [20:18] <VoxelHead> zippity: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#6933 [20:18] <mib_la1v2q> yup
#6934 [20:18] <andResin> any fix for the cant connect to minecraft
#6935 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Could you tell us what OS you're on
#6936 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> What the server is running
#6937 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheNytangel smp/savefiles
#6938 [20:18] <VoxelHead> TheNytangel: (smp/savefiles) Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#6939 [20:18] <xales> andResin: Just wait.
#6940 [20:18] <VoxelHead> TheNytangel: (smp/savefiles) To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
#6941 [20:18] <xales> mib_la1v2q: Try turning down your view distance
#6942 [20:18] <zippity> okay thanks
#6943 [20:19] <TheNytangel> erm
#6944 [20:19] <TheNytangel> what if i have a dedicated server?
#6945 [20:19] <mib_la1v2q> oh :(
#6946 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Define "dedicated server"
#6947 [20:19] <zrbecker> copy the directory
#6948 [20:19] <MrHabbits> Im trying to play online but when i do it laggs horribly and I fall off the map then get d/c
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#6950 [20:19] <TheNytangel> hosted by multiplay
#6951 [20:19] <mib_la1v2q> I have it on far atm
#6952 [20:19] <xales> mib_la1v2q: turn it down to normal
#6953 [20:19] <mib_la1v2q> but sometimes I have days where that bug doesn't even happen
#6954 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> All you gotta do is move the folder with the world you want, onto the server's 'world' folder
#6955 [20:19] <mib_la1v2q> ah, okay
#6956 [20:19] <andResin> same here habbits
#6957 [20:19] <xales> MrHabbits: your internet is too slow, or the server can't keep up or has too slow internet
#6958 [20:20] <mib_la1v2q> but is there a way to upgrade Java so it doesn't happen>
#6959 [20:20] <xales> andResin: Nobody can get on - the server is down
#6960 [20:20] <xales> mib_la1v2q: nope
#6961 [20:20] <MrHabbits> Xale i run perfectly fine with the launcher
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#6963 [20:20] <gerzel> Ok Whenever I run Minecraft with the program's sound turned above 0 the sound on my computer gets all crackly and filled with static. I did a full re-install removing the datafiles as well as the minecraft jar file and redownloading everything. Sound was good for the night. Today I start up my computer go back into Minecraft and once more get the crackles.
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#6965 [20:20] <MrHabbits> And i have high speed internet
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#6968 [20:20] <xales> MrHabbits: define "high speed"
#6969 [20:21] <xales> gerzel: on Windows?
#6970 [20:21] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: A server hoster hosts it. Multiplay
#6971 [20:21] <gerzel> xales: On Ubuntu.
#6972 [20:21] <MrHabbits> Just very fast. Cant remember my package but its dealing with gaming
#6973 [20:21] <xales> MrHabbits: it's likely the server then
#6974 [20:21] <Pinball_wizard> hmmm, I can connect to minecraft.net at minecraft.net, and with the old launcher, however I can't connect with the new launcher.
#6975 [20:21] <MrHabbits> well my friend the host is running fine
#6976 [20:21] <xales> gerzel: is the computer a laptop?
#6977 [20:21] <xales> Pinball_wizard: everybody has that problem.
#6978 [20:21] <MrHabbits> And it usaully does run fine
#6979 [20:21] <gerzel> Xales: No it is a desktop
#6980 [20:21] <MrHabbits> With no lag
#6981 [20:22] <xales> MrHabbits: It's likely because of the update then
#6982 [20:22] <xales> gerzel: how old is it?
#6983 [20:22] <MrHabbits> Update sucks >:(
#6984 [20:22] <gerzel> xales: Less than a couple years. Core2 duo quad, good sound card good graphics
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#6986 [20:22] <Chaze007> Am I the only one still having client issues?
#6987 [20:22] <Chaze007> -.-
#6988 [20:22] <xales> gerzel: update the drivers, make sure you are set to use the proprietary drivers if they are available
#6989 [20:22] <xales> Chaze007: no
#6990 [20:23] <Chaze007> D:
#6991 [20:23] * Chaze007 wants his old client back
#6991 [20:24] <gerzel> xales: Drivers are up-to-date
#6992 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Still there?
#6993 [20:24] <TheNytangel> yes
#6994 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Okay, in your multiplay control panel, you can add files to archive, as well as extract them, correct?
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#6996 [20:24] <CoLoN> is it possible to move my server files from windows 7 to mac os x
#6997 [20:24] <xales> gerzel: some other people have had those problems - I have no idea what the fix would be, other than messing around with ALSA/Pulse at a pretty low level and (probably) breaking everything else
#6998 [20:25] <xales> CoLoN: yes
#6999 [20:25] <xales> just copy the server folder
#7000 [20:25] <mr_wibble> Xales: I'm on my laptop, my computer has 2.00GB (RAM) and it's still able to play SMP
#7001 [20:25] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine - What? There are files, but all I have is backups
#7002 [20:25] <xales> mr_wibble: ok?
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#7004 [20:25] <mr_wibble> And this laptop has 2.00GB and it still won't work.
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#7006 [20:25] <CoLoN> hmmm the server and client files are together
#7007 [20:25] <blood_display> So why won't SMP work on my laptop?
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#7009 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - I mean, your multiplay control panel lets you add multiple files together into a single archive, correct?
#7010 [20:26] <gerzel> xales: Nods. I don't think it is with alsa/pulse I think it is with Minecraft as the problem is limited to ONLY minecraft ONLY when minecraft tries to interact with sound. Many other programs use sound just fine.
#7011 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Like a zip, or a rar, or some similar archive format
#7012 [20:26] <TheNytangel> yes
#7013 [20:26] <TheNytangel> it lets me upload files
#7014 [20:26] <blood_display> GreyVulpine: Read the PM
#7015 [20:26] <TheNytangel> hold on
#7016 [20:26] <gerzel> I think notch might have mentioned something about fixing sound sometime...hope he meant this.
#7017 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Now, you can also use the same control panel to extract files that you uploaded as archives, correct?
#7018 [20:27] <blood_display> GreyVulpine: Read PM! :D
#7019 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> One sec blood_display
#7020 [20:27] <blood_display> Okay.
#7021 [20:27] <xales> gerzel: Minecraft is using an ancient openAL
#7022 [20:27] <xales> which is stupid
#7023 [20:27] <xales> so...yeah
#7024 [20:28] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: Yes
#7025 [20:28] <gerzel> Ah that is probably the issue
#7026 [20:28] <gerzel> though it worked last night
#7027 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Okay, that's a start
#7028 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Do you know what world you want to transfer over, and where it's located?
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#7030 [20:28] <gerzel> which is frustrating I had MC sound coming out nice and clear running happilly alongside my mp3s and other beeps and boops
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#7032 [20:28] <gerzel> All mixing nice a fine
#7033 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - ?
#7034 [20:29] <TheNytangel> yes
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#7036 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel, that was a yes to, you know where the world you want to transfer over, is?
#7037 [20:30] <TheNytangel> yes
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#7039 [20:30] <TheNytangel> that is a picture of the upload thing
#7040 [20:30] <TehMushy> I cant talk on the #minecraft though i've used /msg nickserv
#7041 [20:30] <TehMushy> :/
#7042 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then it's just a simple matter of archiving the world(x), and transferring it over to your multiplay account
#7043 [20:31] <TheNytangel> ok
#7044 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> TehMushy - did you do /msg nickserv register password email
#7045 [20:31] <TehMushy> No..
#7046 [20:31] <TehMushy> I shall try now
#7047 [20:33] <TehMushy> @Grey I've tried that, still cant speak
#7048 [20:33] <xales> TehMushy: did you check your email?
#7049 [20:33] <TehMushy> Yeah
#7050 [20:34] <TehMushy> Ill check my spam though
#7051 [20:34] <TehMushy> 1 sec
#7052 [20:34] <xales> you need to use the AUTH code to complete registration, like it should have told you
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#7055 [20:35] <mib_qp3d21> any way i can revert back to the old launcher
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#7057 [20:35] <SevFTW> Hey guys
#7058 [20:35] <xales> if you have an old one backed up, mib_qp3d21
#7059 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> SevFTW - 'lo
#7060 [20:35] <BarryCarlyon> mib_qp3d21: nope.
#7061 [20:36] <SevFTW> I need some help, I keep getting a
#7062 [20:36] <TehMushy> I havn't received an email..
#7063 [20:36] <SevFTW> can't connect to minecraft.net error
#7064 [20:36] <SevFTW> when I log in :\
#7065 [20:36] <TehMushy> @Sev
#7066 [20:36] <SevFTW> Yes?
#7067 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#7068 [20:36] <TehMushy> I think its like that for everyone
#7069 [20:36] <mib_qp3d21> hm
#7070 [20:36] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7071 [20:36] <TehMushy> I cant
#7072 [20:36] <mib_qp3d21> dont thin i have tbh
#7073 [20:36] <SevFTW> My friends are on it right now
#7074 [20:36] <mib_qp3d21> i updated this morning
#7075 [20:36] <SevFTW> they're playing on my server
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#7077 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> SevFTW - Try the in-browser client
#7078 [20:37] <SevFTW> *facepalm*
#7079 [20:37] <SevFTW> I was bout to
#7080 [20:37] <SevFTW> but then got distracted
#7081 [20:37] <SevFTW> F***ing ADHD xD
#7082 [20:38] * TehMushy still cant register for #minecraft, yet I never recieved an email.. :(
#7082 [20:38] <SevFTW> Speaking of in browser
#7083 [20:38] <xales> TehMushy: are you using AOL/AIM email?
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#7085 [20:38] <SevFTW> has anyone found a solution for the black screen after switching applet for classic?
#7086 [20:38] <TehMushy> MSN
#7087 [20:38] <xales> "switching applet"?
#7088 [20:38] <blood_display> Xales: I fixed the lagg, but when I talk I gotta wait like 10minutes for it to show up.
#7089 [20:38] <SevFTW> yeah
#7090 [20:38] <blood_display> Can you tell me how to fix it?
#7091 [20:38] <Arkose> xales: Mac OS question.
#7092 [20:39] <SevFTW> it says switching applet
#7093 [20:39] <TehMushy> i'm using an @hotmail.com domain
#7094 [20:39] <xales> TehMushy: join #help and someone there can help you get the code
#7095 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> blood_display - It's most likely the server, nothing you can do
#7096 [20:39] <TehMushy> Thanks
#7097 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> I experience it as well
#7098 [20:39] <zrbecker> SevFTW, I got the blank screen aswell, but after the inbrowser client downloaded a bunch of files I was able to log in with the downloaded fine.
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#7100 [20:39] <blood_display> So when Notch fixs it I should see it?
#7101 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes blood_display
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#7103 [20:39] <blood_display> How long do you think it's gonna be?
#7104 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> No idea blood_display
#7105 [20:39] <davefinton> Hi there, sorry for butting in with my issues, but I've had issues with even getting minecraft to load for the past 48 hours and I was hoping I could get assistance :P
#7106 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> blood_display: there's only one 'g' in lag, by the way.
#7107 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - Could you be more specific?
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#7109 [20:39] <blood_display> My bad :S
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#7111 [20:40] <davefinton> I run MacOS 10.5 with the Java 1.6 updates installed and since the last update I've not been able to get the game to load at all
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#7113 [20:40] <blood_display> Ok, I gotta go, bye guys.
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#7115 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - In.. single player?
#7116 [20:40] <mib_046hmq> Hello all. So...until 1.3 my server allowed others to access it. I can get on, but no on else is able to now, and I'm looking for the 'duh' answer, I suppose. What could I be missing?
#7117 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - Port forwarding and firewalls set up?
#7118 [20:41] <mib_046hmq> Yessum
#7119 [20:41] <davefinton> The newest launcher uses https and that has been unsuccessful so far and like a moron I deleted the old launcher so I'm in a bit of a bind
#7120 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Double checked settings?
#7121 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - Right now, try the in-browser client
#7122 [20:41] <mib_046hmq> Yep
#7123 [20:41] <SevFTW> guys...
#7124 [20:41] <SevFTW> in game browser isn't working for me :(
#7125 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> SevFTW error
#7126 [20:41] <VoxelHead> SevFTW: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#7127 [20:41] <VoxelHead> SevFTW: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#7128 [20:41] <SevFTW> just shows the java cup with two errors in a circle around it
#7129 [20:41] <mib_046hmq> I do have my internal IP in the server properties field, which i know doesnt seem to help others, but thats how I seem to get through the cranky router
#7130 [20:42] <davefinton> In-browser client crashes the browser up until now, but I'll give that a shot
#7131 [20:42] <mib_046hmq> Anyone who attempts to log in to my server gets a 'timed-out' error message
#7132 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - Usually it's not a good idea to have your internal IP in the server.properties
#7133 [20:42] <mib_046hmq> My java WAS messed up, but I redl'd that
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#7135 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> That's one reason why other people can't connect to you
#7136 [20:42] <davefinton> I did try both Firefox and Safari but I'll try it out and let you know
#7137 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - Sure.
#7138 [20:42] <mib_046hmq> @Grey I'd normally agree with you, but otherwise they are unable to connect
#7139 [20:43] <SevFTW> ugh
#7140 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - How many NICs do you have on the computer?
#7141 [20:43] <SevFTW> I'm just gonna play tomorrow
#7142 [20:43] <SevFTW> also
#7143 [20:43] <SevFTW> if anyone wants to join my server
#7144 [20:43] <mib_046hmq> ....heh, what's an NIC?
#7145 [20:43] <Bucksatan> I am having problem with stand alone (non browser) exe not letting me log in. I can log in in browser. I have deleted the bin folder, and the entire game folder and nothing is helping it
#7146 [20:43] <SevFTW> direct message me
#7147 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - Network card.
#7148 [20:43] <mib_046hmq> gotcha
#7149 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> ??> Bucksatan overloaded
#7150 [20:43] <VoxelHead> Bucksatan: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7151 [20:43] <SevFTW> see you guys
#7152 [20:44] <davefinton> Well here's an improvement, the in-game browser doesn't even load up at all
#7153 [20:44] <SevFTW> Imma play some black ops :\
#7154 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - It.. doesn't?
#7155 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - Do you have the latest java installed?
#7156 [20:44] <SevFTW> davefinton: not for me either
#7157 [20:44] <davefinton> at least it didn't crash the whole shebang
#7158 [20:44] <Bucksatan> kk ty, is there anyway to get the browser version to enlarge?
#7159 [20:44] <davefinton> yes, I just installed the latest Java update this morning
#7160 [20:44] <mib_046hmq> @Grey I'm honestly not sure.
#7161 [20:44] <irflashrex> TY Voxel that was just waht i was about to ask about.
#7162 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - Or maybe, try uninstalling and reinstalling java. Just to double check
#7163 [20:44] <davefinton> rest of the operating system is up to date
#7164 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> davefinton: what OS?
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#7167 [20:45] <davefinton> MacOSX 10.5.8
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#7169 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> davefinton mac/profile
#7170 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - What operating system do you have?
#7171 [20:45] <VoxelHead> davefinton: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#7172 [20:45] <VoxelHead> davefinton: (mac/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#7174 [20:45] <SevFTW> davefinton- me too
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#7176 [20:45] <davefinton> Latest Java 1.6 update possible was installed this morning
#7177 [20:45] <mib_046hmq> @Grey Windows 7
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#7179 [20:45] <UK_Nitro> To get browser game to go fullscreen when in game press F11
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#7181 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - Can you go to your start menu, type "cmd" in the search bar. In the command prompt, can you type in "ipconfig". Do you know how to look to see what your IP address(es) are?\
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#7185 [20:47] <mib_046hmq> @Grey lol. Yep where I located my internal when I messed up my particular IP designation--I switched ethernet cables which are plugged into different ports on the router, of course lol
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#7187 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - Okay, do you only have one ip address on that machine? Or multiple?
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#7189 [20:47] <wendall911> I've been unable to login to the server save one single time since the update. Just says unable to contact minecraft.net. On multiple systems. Is there a login server status somewhere?
#7190 [20:47] <Mathuin> pymclevel isn't quite working, so TopoMC development is going on hiatus. :-(
#7191 [20:48] <xales> ?? overloaded
#7192 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> ??> wendall911 overloaded
#7193 [20:48] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7194 [20:48] <VoxelHead> wendall911: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7195 [20:48] * GreyVulpine snerks
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#7196 [20:48] <wendall911> and ...
#7197 [20:48] <wendall911> Where do I just quickly get this information
#7198 [20:48] <mib_046hmq> @Grey currently this one has just the one IP
#7199 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> And no, there's no server status page anywhere
#7200 [20:48] <wendall911> well, don't get pissy if I ask then
#7201 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - Then you don't need to put in an ip address in server.properties
#7202 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> We're not pissy wendall911
#7203 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> It's just an automated bot.
#7204 [20:49] <wendall911> Ok, bit chatty, I just need to know it's broken
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#7206 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> wendall911: better to much information than too little, no?
#7207 [20:49] <wendall911> insane that there isn't a status page
#7208 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> I agree.
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#7210 [20:50] <Snake> Hello
#7211 [20:50] <UK_Nitro> It's not nice to keep getting an automated response
#7212 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> OTOH, if the problem is that the sites are imploding, adding another page won't exactly help (:
#7213 [20:50] <mib_046hmq> @Grey Even though it is coming through the router and there are other users upon the router? I may not have answered your previous answer correctly
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#7215 [20:50] <wendall911> UK_Nitro: absolutely agreed
#7216 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - I'd recheck your port forwarding after you remove the ip address from server.properties.
#7217 [20:50] <wendall911> DopeGhoti: not at all
#7218 [20:50] <Snake> Can people connect to minecraft.net?
#7219 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Heh, I'd like to see you manually type out a response each time the same question is brought up
#7220 [20:50] <wendall911> Server status pages are required if you don''t have your head up your ****
#7221 [20:50] <xales> Snake: nope
#7222 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Snake - Yes, the website is up.
#7223 [20:51] <davefinton> I'll see if the new user stuff works
#7224 [20:51] <mib_046hmq> @Grey I will, but this is the way that it was configured that allowed friends to access my server
#7225 [20:51] <wendall911> and very little resources to do this
#7226 [20:51] <xales> Snake: not in game, minecraft.net in the browser works
#7227 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> The authentication server for minecraft's client is down
#7228 [20:51] <xales> or, not with the download client
#7229 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> wendall911 UK_Nitro: regarding canned responses- 90% of the questions we get are the answered by a canned response; the rest we answer by hand.
#7230 [20:51] <UK_Nitro> Perhaps a link might be better
#7231 [20:51] <Snake> People can join on the server i want to play with but i can join...
#7232 [20:51] <wendall911> Maybe change the channel topic to say that logins aren't working properly
#7233 [20:52] <SkiingPenguins> noone reads that
#7234 [20:52] <wendall911> I did read the channel topic
#7235 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Nobody reads the topic anyways
#7236 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> They'll continue to come in and ask the same question
#7237 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> A link is just a pain. Why make you click something to fetch the answer in another program when we can just just you the answer and save three steps?
#7238 [20:52] <gothroach> GreyVulpine: Does Mibbit not make the channel topic obvious or something?
#7239 [20:52] <wendall911> ok, well, a quick it's broke is better than spamming the channel
#7240 [20:52] <Mathuin> ... the quick it's broke or the long it's broke which is just as many lines of output?
#7241 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> gothroach - A flood of text upon joining a channel. You think an average user is going to think important info is in that?
#7242 [20:52] <Mathuin> what the heck do you want?
#7243 [20:52] <gothroach> :-\
#7244 [20:53] <gothroach> True - I keep forgetting most users are not used to IRC.
#7245 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> And most users, unfortunately, come from mibbit
#7246 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> So they're not versed in the ways of IRC
#7247 [20:53] <wendall911> Ok, I use IRC daily and always read the topic
#7248 [20:53] <Mathuin> The reason I came here from mibbit is because that's the link that was on the minecraft.net website.
#7249 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> wendall911: but do you read the MOTD when you connect to a server? (:
#7250 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> wendall911 - then you're part of the old minority
#7251 [20:53] <wendall911> typically if there are downtime issues it's in the topic
#7252 [20:54] <xales> Mathuin: actually, it's just an irc:// link
#7253 [20:54] <xales> the default in many browsers is just to open Mibbit
#7254 [20:54] <xales> I have no idea why
#7255 [20:54] <xales> =/
#7256 [20:54] <Mathuin> xales: Possibly, that's just how I got here.
#7257 [20:54] <gothroach> irc.esper.net #MineCraftHelp if you want to join up on a proper client.
#7258 [20:54] <wendall911> I don't even know what Mibbit is
#7259 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> mibbit = web-based IRC client
#7260 [20:54] <wendall911> ah, useless
#7261 [20:54] * GreyVulpine nods
#7261 [20:54] <glitch77> (firefox auto-suggests mibbit forirc links)
#7262 [20:54] <xales> ^
#7263 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> So any joe-shmoe can pop onto IRC nowadays
#7264 [20:55] * DopeGhoti submits a bug report/FR on firefox suggesting they roll in ChatZilla
#7264 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> it's not like FireFox is the bloatless browser anymore
#7265 [20:55] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#7265 [20:55] <xales> http://pastebin.com/Eswbdv8z
#7266 [20:55] <xales> ^example
#7267 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Did we miss anybody who still requires help here?
#7268 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Before we went on this tangent?
#7269 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#7270 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> <.<
#7271 [20:56] <mib_046hmq> tangents are fun
#7272 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> Note to self: ??+ irc/ontopic
#7273 [20:56] <wendall911> Incidentally, I didn't read the auto message
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#7275 [20:56] <cazarroman> I can use some help, I was on earlier
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#7277 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> cazarroman: how can we assist you?
#7278 [20:56] <mib_046hmq> And...I'm sure people missed will point that out
#7279 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Could you restate your problem?
#7280 [20:57] <Geerie> hiya, i'm getting a "user not premium" error again
#7281 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Geerie overloaded
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#7283 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Geerie - User not premium? With what client?
#7284 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Where are you getting this?
#7285 [20:57] <Geerie> the newest one
#7286 [20:57] <xales> Browser, or download?
#7287 [20:57] <quaddle> iv found my previous client whcih some say works iv replaced it when i try to run it there is no action at all??
#7288 [20:57] <Geerie> i downloaded
#7289 [20:57] <cazarroman> My server seems to be on the frits. I had a server before the update and it worked perfectly fine for me and a friend. After the update though, we can get on the server, but chunks are being spawned at a very slow rate
#7290 [20:58] <xales> Geerie: from minecraft.net?
#7291 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> I get that as well cazarroman, I think it's a buggy 1.3 release
#7292 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> And we're not the only people to report it either
#7293 [20:58] <Geerie> yes
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#7295 [20:58] <relsqui> Geerie: I got that after I clicked "offline mode" and then tried to join a SMP server
#7296 [20:58] <quaddle> iv found my previous client whcih some say works iv replaced it when i try to run it there is no action at all??
#7297 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Getsatisfaction and the forums also have reports on that cazarroman
#7298 [20:58] <relsqui> Geerie: but not when trying to authorize normally
#7299 [20:58] <xales> quaddle: what exactly did you replace?
#7300 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> cazarroman: chunks are four times as large now, and so will take four times longer to generate, and four times longer to send to clients.
#7301 [20:59] <Geerie> that;s where i get the problem
#7302 [20:59] <cazarroman> Ok that makes sense
#7303 [20:59] <SkiingPenguins> DopeGhoti what advantage does larger chunks give?
#7304 [20:59] <Geerie> it's after offline mode, i just can't log in regularly
#7305 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> SkiingPenguins: fewer physical files.
#7306 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> (a fourth as many)
#7307 [20:59] <quaddle> im tryin to run from my prior client like some have working stil
#7308 [20:59] <cazarroman> Well thanks for your time guys. I can sort of be at a peace of mine now :-)
#7309 [21:00] <xales> quaddle: what files specifically did you replace?
#7310 [21:00] <cazarroman> mind*\
#7311 [21:00] <quaddle> i found it the .jar file it does not run though
#7312 [21:00] <quaddle> jus the jar file i meant
#7313 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> speaking of people leaving; I'm going home now. ciao
#7314 [21:00] <xales> it's not the .jar that is the problem
#7315 [21:00] <xales> it's the launcher
#7316 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Cya dopeghoti
#7317 [21:00] <xales> you should do this:
#7318 [21:00] <xales> ??> quaddle win/reinst
#7319 [21:00] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#7320 [21:00] <quaddle> the one in the bin folder?
#7321 [21:00] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#7322 [21:00] <xales> quaddle: that isn't the launcher
#7323 [21:00] <davefinton> No love on creating the new account. I can launch other Java apps just fine, just Minecraft in part to the MacOS bug in the previous 1.3 update that had the 1.6 bindings that broke things
#7324 [21:00] <xales> the launcher is the .exe you double-click to open it
#7325 [21:00] <quaddle> im on linux
#7326 [21:01] <xales> then, it's the .jar that you use to launch it
#7327 [21:01] <xales> not the one in the bin folder
#7328 [21:01] <quaddle> yes
#7329 [21:01] <davefinton> And since https is broken on the auth server I can't download the latest 1.3 beta version so I'm kinda in a bind
#7330 [21:01] <quaddle> im tryin to run the prior jar file instead and thers just no action at all
#7331 [21:01] <SevFTW> davefinton do you mean 1.3_01?
#7332 [21:01] <glitch77> Is there any Official word on the login troubles?
#7333 [21:01] <xales> all I can think is that you saved it wrong or something - we can't really help with that, only the latest stuff
#7334 [21:02] <xales> glitch77: not yet - they are still sleeping
#7335 [21:02] <xales> it's very early in the morning for Mojang
#7336 [21:02] <arensirb> davefinton: I have the old .jar if you want it
#7337 [21:02] <arensirb> old launcher that is
#7338 [21:02] <SevFTW> davefinton: I have the new one 1.3_01
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#7340 [21:02] <Mathuin> Wait, there's a 1.3_01? This morning it was 1.3 :-)
#7341 [21:02] <davefinton> there was the previous but in the original 1.3 update that prevented the client from loading at all (it just crashed)
#7342 [21:02] <arensirb> SevFTW: that one doesnt let me log in :P
#7343 [21:02] <SevFTW> arensirb: do any of the others?
#7344 [21:03] <SevFTW> I have a whole stock of them
#7345 [21:03] <SevFTW> since the alpha versions
#7346 [21:03] <SevFTW> like 1.2.2 or somthing
#7347 [21:03] <mumblingdutchman> anyone else having trouble logging in? (connecting to minecraft.net)
#7348 [21:03] <davefinton> Notch released an update but because of the https issues with the latest launcher I can't even get that to work
#7349 [21:03] <xales> ??> mumblingdutchman overloaded
#7350 [21:03] <VoxelHead> mumblingdutchman: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7351 [21:03] <arensirb> SevFTW: yes, old launcher letsd me log in
#7352 [21:03] <xales> SevFTW: the launcher has only been updated once
#7353 [21:03] <mumblingdutchman> thanks! :)
#7354 [21:04] <SevFTW> xales: I mean the .jar files
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#7356 [21:04] <arensirb> SevFTW: old launcher, updated files
#7357 [21:04] <xales> more than just the .jar changes, though
#7358 [21:04] <xales> some of the other .jar files change
#7359 [21:04] <SevFTW> Arensirb:I have a copy of it, but it still doesn't work :\
#7360 [21:04] <arensirb> how far do you get?
#7361 [21:04] <davefinton> Also, the in-browser client doesn't even load (it did prior to the update); it just merely crashes the browser in both Safari and Firefox
#7362 [21:04] <RayeS> Anyone familiar with the browser version of MC hanging at "Done Loading" with the green loading bar until almost the end...
#7363 [21:05] <xales> ??> RayeS win/reinst
#7364 [21:05] <VoxelHead> RayeS: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#7365 [21:05] <VoxelHead> RayeS: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#7366 [21:06] <RayeS> that helped.. thanks there xales! :>
#7367 [21:06] <davefinton> I am willing to re-install minecraft entirely from scratch if necessary but I was wondering if I could get a list of files on MacOS I need to clear so I can assure myself the danged thing is reloaded entirely from scratch
#7368 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#7369 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Is where the minecraft files are stores
#7370 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> stored*
#7371 [21:07] <mib_046hmq> @Grey Thank you! my internal IP randomly changed, so my forwarding was incorrect. It's done this twice now. It'll be the first thing I check when things go wonky. Again, thank you for reminding me to use my brain, heh.
#7372 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> You delete that, as well as the launcher, and you're good
#7373 [21:07] <davefinton> GreyVulpine: Did that already, at least twice
#7374 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_046hmq - You might want to look into setting up a static IP on your network, so this isn't a frequent occurance
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#7376 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - I don't get why loading the minecraft applet is crashing your browser though
#7377 [21:08] <mib_046hmq> @Grey I thought about it at one point...then forgot. Heh. to portforward.com when I re-rethink about it. Thanks again!
#7378 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#7379 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, do you get any sort of verbose error at all when the browser crashes davefinton?
#7380 [21:09] <davefinton> GreyVulpine: Initially it crashed my browser, but now it just won't load at all, the applet doesn't even come up
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#7383 [21:10] <swargin> :o hello
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#7385 [21:10] <Jefffr> hello
#7386 [21:11] <swargin> hello
#7387 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - Are you able to pull up any sort of java error console in your browser?
#7388 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - In firefox, there's a Tools -> Java Console option.
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#7391 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Wondering if it tells you anything there
#7392 [21:11] <Jefffr> I search infomation about an error of my launcher
#7393 [21:11] <davefinton> GreyVulpine: None whatsoever. It loads the HTML page but where there should be the Java applet there is nothing but blank space
#7394 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Jefffr - What error?
#7395 [21:11] <Jefffr> I've downloaded the launcher today
#7396 [21:12] <mib_vmu4oo> minectaft launcher not syncing with minecraft.net
#7397 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#7398 [21:12] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7399 [21:12] <rf`> so its not just me?
#7400 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#7401 [21:12] <Jefffr> and when I want to connect to the server he said "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#7402 [21:12] * GreyVulpine points to VoxelHead
#7402 [21:12] <rf`> k, was going to ask. i feel better now :P
#7403 [21:12] <swargin> oh good. I thought it was just a problem with my computer
#7404 [21:12] <ArsonSmith42> Inbrowser version seems to be dead too
#7405 [21:12] <ArsonSmith42> at least for me
#7406 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - Made sure your browser's up to date?
#7407 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> It is?
#7408 [21:13] <Jefffr> but I can logged me in the browser launcher it's strange ...
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#7410 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Jefffr - Not strange, just uses a different authentication method
#7411 [21:13] <torkethe> can anyone help me
#7412 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> WIth
#7413 [21:13] <Jefffr> ok ^^
#7414 [21:13] <torkethe> my friend is ruinning a multiplayer server and no one can connect to the server
#7415 [21:14] <relsqui> torkethe: is the server still on 1.2?
#7416 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Could your friend hop on here? It'd be better if we could talk to them face to face
#7417 [21:14] <davefinton> Under Tools in Firefox it only gives the option to disable Java, nothing to clear any cache or anything
#7418 [21:14] <davefinton> also, I've seen the same problem under Safari
#7419 [21:14] <torkethe> the server is 1.3 and he is right next to me
#7420 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - But there's no java console?
#7421 [21:15] <mib_vmu4oo> every time i close minecraft an error by this name pops up hs_err_pid3012
#7422 [21:15] <davefinton> Browser is at 3.6, latest version, and I've been keeping up with my updates
#7423 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_vmu4oo - Can you pastebin.com one of those errors?
#7424 [21:16] <davefinton> grey: not under the tools menu, no
#7425 [21:16] <mib_vmu4oo> ill try
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#7427 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - Try the java applet at http://www.lwjgl.org/applet/
#7428 [21:16] <Mogen> Hey
#7429 [21:16] <davefinton> I have to dig deeper a bit, but there's no java console option that I can find anywhere
#7430 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - See if that'll load for you
#7431 [21:16] <Mogen> is the um game offline
#7432 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> No it isn't Mogen
#7433 [21:16] <Mogen> When i login it says unable to connect blah blah blahg
#7434 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#7435 [21:16] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
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#7437 [21:16] <Jefffr> thanks for helping me
#7438 [21:17] <Jefffr> bye bye
#7439 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#7440 [21:17] <Mogen> hmm
#7441 [21:17] <Mogen> the site seems to work but the program dosent
#7442 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes, the authentication server is overloaded/down
#7443 [21:17] <arron> is anyone haveing probs connet to minecraft.net useing the minecraft game lacher?
#7444 [21:17] <swargin> thanks for the help
#7445 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#7446 [21:17] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7447 [21:17] <arron> its been like this all day
#7448 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes it has
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#7450 [21:18] <arron> ive been building a reashion of terrorvale on mutiplayer
#7451 [21:19] <Mogen> anyone know why the server isnt working
#7452 [21:19] <Mogen> Isn't notch on vacation
#7453 [21:19] <Mogen> or something
#7454 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> No, he's back
#7455 [21:19] <relsqui> no, he's back
#7456 [21:19] <relsqui> jinx.
#7457 [21:19] <arron> no
#7458 [21:19] <arron> they probaly getting ready for gdc
#7459 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - You okay there?
#7460 [21:20] <Mogen> lol
#7461 [21:20] <Mogen> anyone know the real game release date?
#7462 [21:20] <Mogen> will it be out by end of 2011
#7463 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> We couldn't begin to guess
#7464 [21:20] <Mogen> or near fall
#7465 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Probbaly not
#7466 [21:20] <torkethe> i have been getting connection timed out: connect error everytime i try to connect to my friends mulitplayer server and if he trys to use his ip he canont connect ether
#7467 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Probably*
#7468 [21:20] <relsqui> I'm willing to assert that no one, anywhere, knows the real game release date
#7469 [21:21] <Mogen> cuz 2012 were all gonna die so i wanna play the game before then lol jk i dont believe
#7470 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - What IP address are you connecting with?
#7471 [21:21] <davefinton> Going to restart my browser, so I'll have to log in again, brb
#7472 [21:21] <arron> i know that p.c gamer said its gonna be a fully game this year and when its finshed its gonna be called minecraft prime no clue if thats true
#7473 [21:21] <relsqui> heh
#7474 [21:21] <relsqui> I don't particularly care, it's fun watching new stuff go in
#7475 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Probably just rumors
#7476 [21:21] <torkethe> 155.92.104.74
#7477 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Okay, are you in the same building/house?
#7478 [21:22] <arron> has anyone seen that minecraft ripoff some computy makeing?
#7479 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> xbox live ripoff, yeah
#7480 [21:22] <torkethe> yes we are connected to the same router
#7481 [21:22] <arron> thats look crap
#7482 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Can you try using the internal IP address of the server?
#7483 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - It's usually 192.168.x.y, or 10.x.y.z
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#7485 [21:22] <torkethe> tried dont work
#7486 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Then a firewall or security package on the computer isn't set up to allow the port through
#7487 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> What OS is it running?
#7488 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> What security software is it running?
#7489 [21:24] <torkethe> its running windows 7 and windows defender and trend micro system
#7490 [21:24] <davefinton> Welp, clearing the browser cache didn't work. I did verify that other Java Applets did work after the fact, but it's minecraft that's not loading, and I can't find an error message telling me why
#7491 [21:24] <Mathuin> So the issue with the authentication servers, is it one of those "keep trying, maybe you'll be lucky" things or one of those "don't bother" kinds of things?
#7492 [21:24] <torkethe> it was working fine till the update then it got fucked up
#7493 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Is the windows firewall down?
#7494 [21:24] <torkethe> tried didnt do anything
#7495 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Mathuin - Don't bother, it'll get fixed soon
#7496 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> In the meantime, the inbrowser one still work
#7497 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> s
#7498 [21:25] <arensirb> arron: I saw that
#7499 [21:25] <arensirb> graphics OWN
#7500 [21:25] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: okay. other than launcher/UI, is there any coding difference between in-browser and standalone play?
#7501 [21:25] <arensirb> I wish minecraft was like that
#7502 [21:25] <arron> no there rubbish
#7503 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> The standalone uses SSL to authenticate, which the server is overloaded/down for
#7504 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, there is no difference
#7505 [21:25] <arensirb> arron: It was hot
#7506 [21:25] <arensirb> GreyVulpine: As in HTTPS?
#7507 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#7508 [21:26] <arensirb> I have to be frank
#7509 [21:26] <arensirb> How the hell can they use so much time setting up another server if it only uses HTTPS?
#7510 [21:26] <arensirb> Should be a walk in the park
#7511 [21:26] <torkethe> GreyVulpine: any other ideas we have tried to take down every fire wall the weird part is that he cant even connect to his server using a ip
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#7513 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> They've been giving amazon's EC2 cloud a thorough beating
#7514 [21:27] <arron> rember it cood be many things
#7515 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Blame amazon
#7516 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Can he connect to his own server with 127.0.0.1?
#7517 [21:27] <arron> they cood be waiting on a new sever they cood be trying to fix this one who knows
#7518 [21:27] <arensirb> GreyVulpine: Its not amazons fault
#7519 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Could he pastebin his server.properties?
#7520 [21:27] <torkethe> that works for him
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#7522 [21:27] <arensirb> arron: I bet they are sitting on their asses going "What are we not gonna do next?"
#7523 [21:28] <rf`> so is it possible to change the location of minecraft's files?
#7524 [21:28] <Numi> Does anyone else have trouble connecting to the server?
#7525 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> rf' - Somewhat, yes
#7526 [21:28] <torkethe> fyi we are engineering students two who are computer
#7527 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> ??> Numi overloaded
#7528 [21:28] <VoxelHead> Numi: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7529 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Can you pastebin.com the server.properties?
#7530 [21:29] <rf`> i'm kinda tired of my working minecraft folder being in /users/etc
#7531 [21:29] <netj0z> any public server list?
#7532 [21:29] <arron> why buy the game if ur gonna moune its a beta meening not a finshed game meening how is a person gonna know that the game wood do this well they cant know that so let it be it will be fixed when its fixed
#7533 [21:29] <torkethe> what do you want to know about the server?
#7534 [21:29] <rf`> i'd rather keep it in the same folder as my games, C:\games\etc :P
#7535 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> rf` - You can set a symlink in most OSs, so that the files are actually stored elsewhere
#7536 [21:29] <rf`> i've never done that before
#7537 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> As for setting it in minecraft's options, it's not possible right now
#7538 [21:30] <rf`> ah
#7539 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> rf' - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Saved_Data_Dropbox_Guide_Saves_Only
#7540 [21:30] <rf`> just a little odd that it wouldn't install the files into a folder for the program, like most games do
#7541 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Here an example, of directing %appdata% to a dropbox account
#7542 [21:30] <RF> man mkdir
#7543 [21:30] <RF> for symbolic links
#7544 [21:31] <RF> wait.. windows? oh, slightly different, but same idea
#7545 [21:31] <Mogen> hey
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#7547 [21:31] <torkethe> GreyVulpine: what would you like to know about the server
#7548 [21:32] <Mogen> i deleted my world accidently and like cleared recycling bin how do i recover it
#7549 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Could I get a pastebin of the server.properties?
#7550 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> ...
#7551 [21:32] <xales> Mogen: you can't, unless you have a backup
#7552 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> It's lost Mogen..
#7553 [21:32] <Mogen> lol
#7554 [21:32] <Mogen> fail
#7555 [21:32] <Mogen> =,=
#7556 [21:32] <davefinton> Welp, I'm at a loss here
#7557 [21:32] <torkethe> what do you want to know about it?
#7558 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Can I see it?
#7559 [21:32] <Mogen> i didnt think old worlds would work on new versions of the server
#7560 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> They automatically convert
#7561 [21:33] <xales> davefinton: just wait for an update
#7562 [21:33] <torkethe> we have everything true except pvp and no ip listed in the server properties
#7563 [21:33] <davefinton> I tried clearing my cache, everything else, and nothing works
#7564 [21:33] <xales> torkethe: can you just pastebin it? =/
#7565 [21:33] <torkethe> no sorry its not on my commputer
#7566 [21:33] <davefinton> unfortunately now I think that Java on my system in general is broken because I just figured out I can't get other things to work either
#7567 [21:33] <torkethe> we have the simple server set up
#7568 [21:34] <xales> how exactly are we supposed to help you then?
#7569 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Is simple server compatible with 1.3?
#7570 [21:34] <davefinton> well everything was working fine until I installed the new beta
#7571 [21:34] <davefinton> what the heck else can I do?
#7572 [21:35] <xales> davefinton: www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
#7573 [21:35] <torkethe> it should be its the one linked to minecraft.net
#7574 [21:35] <davefinton> all I did was follow the instructions that others told me to do on this channel and all I got for it now is broken Java
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#7577 [21:36] <xales> davefinton: does that link say java doesn't work?
#7578 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - If you're running SimpleServer, it's not from the official site
#7579 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> It's a server wrapper
#7580 [21:36] <torkethe> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp go to bottom of the page
#7581 [21:37] <torkethe> thats what we have
#7582 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - But are you running simpleserver?
#7583 [21:37] <davefinton> xales: that webpage doesn't even apply to firefox 3.6 (the instructions don't make any since)
#7584 [21:37] <davefinton> *sense rather
#7585 [21:37] <davefinton> that page is very out of date
#7586 [21:37] <gothroach> davefinton: Works in my FF3.6
#7587 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - You're not running this, correct? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1023&t=27756
#7588 [21:37] <torkethe> no were running that one which is the simpilest server you can get
#7589 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Okay.
#7590 [21:38] <torkethe> no we are running the one linked to the page i sent you
#7591 [21:38] <SevFTW> speaking of server wrappers
#7592 [21:38] <SevFTW> does anyone know any good ones for mac?
#7593 [21:38] <SevFTW> or is that against the rules?
#7594 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Can you give me an idea of what ips your computers are, and what you've tried using to connect
#7595 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> SevFTW - The main one in development right now is bukkit.
#7596 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit for more info
#7597 [21:39] <davefinton> OK, all I did after running the latest beta update was this: one, clear my personal cache, tow, install the latest Java update straight from Apple's website, clear my cache again, create a new user account and tried running it from there, and cleared my cache again
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#7600 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> It's nowhere near complete, but people use it for their servers until an official API is released
#7601 [21:39] <SevFTW> GreyVulpine: Thanks!
#7602 [21:39] <xales> davefinton: run Software Update
#7603 [21:40] <davefinton> I've already done that twice! It says no updates are needed!
#7604 [21:40] <panitaliemom> Everytime I try to logg in to the launcher, it says "Cannot connect to Minecraft" Ive been able to logg in before, but now I cant. I can logg in to the website.
#7605 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> panitaliemom overloaded
#7606 [21:40] <VoxelHead> panitaliemom: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7607 [21:40] <torkethe> my ip is 192.168.133.1 and we have tried his ipv4 adress and his subnet mask and local connect. keep in mind he cant even connect to his server unless he uses localhost
#7608 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and what is his IP address?
#7609 [21:41] <panitaliemom> I tried like 4 hours ago, went somewhere and its still saying it
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#7611 [21:41] <panitaliemom> is that okay
#7612 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> panitaliemom - Everybody's been getting it
#7613 [21:41] <panitaliemom> Oh, okay
#7614 [21:41] <torkethe> his is 155
#7615 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#7616 [21:41] <panitaliemom> Thank you
#7617 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Could you tell me the full IP address of his?
#7618 [21:42] <torkethe> 155.92.104.74
#7619 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> I meant, his private ip address
#7620 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Unless you're not on the same router..
#7621 [21:42] <Skittles> i just reinstalled server and it says outdated?
#7622 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Skittles - Try again, you should be running version 1.3 of the server
#7623 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> the latest client is 1.3_01
#7624 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - 'lo?
#7625 [21:43] <torkethe> his private ip is 192.169.1.9
#7626 [21:43] <Shadow386> lol
#7627 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> You're not even on the same subnet mask then
#7628 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> He's on 192.168.1.9, you're on 192.168.133.1
#7629 [21:43] <torkethe> no his supmask is 255.255.255.10
#7630 [21:43] <torkethe> and my supmask is 255.255.255.0
#7631 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> That's why you can't connect
#7632 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> You're doing some funky network setup.
#7633 [21:44] <Shadow386> how the fuck....is that even possible to set up like that?
#7634 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> We're not getting the full picture of your network topology torkethe
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#7636 [21:45] <torkethe> that has no reason cuz i have connected to it through a diffrent router and it worked at 11 this moring
#7637 [21:45] <xales> Shadow386: Possible? yes. Any real reason to? not at home
#7638 [21:45] <gothroach> What are you doing with a 255.255.255.10 subnet, anyways?
#7639 [21:45] <gothroach> That seems like it's needlessly complicated.
#7640 [21:45] <Nivomi> Odd thing: my minecraft is failing to connect to minecraft.net but I can access it through firefox
#7641 [21:45] <torkethe> and now its 8 and nothing has changed and wont work
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#7643 [21:45] <torkethe> and were at a engineering school
#7644 [21:45] <Chaze007> okay, seriously
#7645 [21:45] <Chaze007> is it normal for the client to still be Fd?
#7646 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - You're obviously a comp student, who needs to learn a bit more before messing around with subnetting
#7647 [21:46] <davefinton> OK I can get Java to work outside the browser
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#7649 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - If you can tell us exactly how your computers are networked together, maybe we can hobble this back together
#7650 [21:46] * Chaze007 explodes minecraft client
#7650 [21:46] <torkethe> really now a computer engineer and i have to worry about subnetting ok cuz i dont set up my school computer right
#7651 [21:46] <davefinton> So Java itself works
#7652 [21:47] <davefinton> but somehow Java inside both Firefox and Safari doesn't want to work
#7653 [21:47] <torkethe> i am connected to his router which he is connected to which is connected to the school network
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#7655 [21:47] <CanaDon> hey there
#7656 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Okay. Then is the default gateway of both computers the same?
#7657 [21:48] <CanaDon> anyone able to log onto minecraft?
#7658 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> And what is it?
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#7660 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> ??> CanaDon overloaded
#7661 [21:48] <VoxelHead> CanaDon: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7662 [21:48] <CanaDon> ah cool
#7663 [21:48] <Chaze007> CanaDon: You can probably use it in the browser.
#7664 [21:48] <Nivomi> bleh. notch needs to buy an array of magical infinite power servers
#7665 [21:48] <CanaDon> but i cant play downgraded version of minecraft in the browser can i...
#7666 [21:48] <Chaze007> yes
#7667 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> It'll update in the browser as well
#7668 [21:49] <Chaze007> I'm using the browser.
#7669 [21:49] <Chaze007> sadly.
#7670 [21:49] <Mathuin> They should add the minecraft wiki to the community links int he browser.
#7671 [21:49] <CanaDon> awesome guys
#7672 [21:49] <CanaDon> that was some fasssst service ;)
#7673 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> We pride ourselves in good service
#7674 [21:49] <CanaDon> i do sys admin stuff as a profession actually
#7675 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Used to do that in my previous jobs.
#7676 [21:50] <Mathuin> ... "can't milk squids" I love this game.
#7677 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Tech support, computer junkie
#7678 [21:50] <torkethe> so grey any ideas now
#7679 [21:50] <Mathuin> I gave up being a sysadmin, but had to go back into it to pay the bills. :-(
#7680 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Can you answer my question?
#7681 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Default gateway of the two computers?
#7682 [21:51] <CanaDon> yes
#7683 [21:51] <CanaDon> if they are on the same network
#7684 [21:51] <torkethe> yea were connected to the same router
#7685 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> DHCP set on both computers? Or manually assigned
#7686 [21:51] <Mathuin> Hmmm. If the repeater blocks work as diodes, now proper transistors can be made.
#7687 [21:52] <torkethe> set
#7688 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Then what in the world is he doing with his network settings
#7689 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> He's got a subnet mask of 255.255.255.10, and it's getting DHCP from the router?
#7690 [21:52] <torkethe> dude it worked like a hour ago and dont work now its not our fucking router
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#7692 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Or wait, no, it's your computer
#7693 [21:52] <Mathuin> wait, who has a subnetmask of 255.255.255._10_?
#7694 [21:53] * GreyVulpine points to torkethe
#7694 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Subnet mask of 255.255.255.10
#7695 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> ip address of 192.168.133.1
#7696 [21:53] <Mathuin> Fascinating.
#7697 [21:53] <Mathuin> Is there a valid reason for this unusual choice?
#7698 [21:53] <torkethe> and yes we havent fucked with any thing with our router
#7699 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> His buddy, on the same router, has 192.168.1.9, with 255.255.255.0
#7700 [21:53] <torkethe> its the schools choice not ours
#7701 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Obviously, they have problems connecting
#7702 [21:53] <xales> GreyVulpine: I don't even think that's possible
#7703 [21:53] <Mathuin> Obviously.
#7704 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> I'm trying to figure out how they managed that
#7705 [21:53] <xales> to have differen subnets on the same..subnet
#7706 [21:53] <Mathuin> It's *possible* to set those, but it's *impossible* to communicate that way.
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#7708 [21:54] <Mathuin> Not between yourselves.
#7709 [21:54] <torkethe> really now cuz it worked a hour ago
#7710 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Can you please recheck your network card's settings
#7711 [21:54] <Mathuin> Then someone's either a) lying or b) broken.
#7712 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Make sure DHCP is on
#7713 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> And you're not manually assigning an ip there
#7714 [21:54] <torkethe> yes it is and
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#7716 [21:55] <torkethe> and no were not we have had lan partyies on this router just like it is now
#7717 [21:55] <[rebel]Epik> Is there anywhere I can get the 1.2_02 files? My client updated but my server hasn't :/
#7718 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> [rebel]Epik - Are you running the server?
#7719 [21:55] <[rebel]Epik> No
#7720 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> [rebel]Epik - Then if you didn't back it up before you updated, there aren't any places to do that
#7721 [21:56] <[rebel]Epik> :/
#7722 [21:56] <CanaDon> my web client loaded. asked if i wanted to update. i clicked no, then it went black... then later white
#7723 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> And distributing older files is against the ToS
#7724 [21:56] <CanaDon> im going to update java... but anything else?
#7725 [21:56] <[rebel]Epik> *sigh*
#7726 [21:56] <[rebel]Epik> damn.
#7727 [21:56] <Mathuin> Heyyyy, does the bunk bed concept work?
#7728 [21:56] <[rebel]Epik> Literal face palm right now lol
#7729 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Can you, on your computer, double check the ipv4 address and subnet mask again
#7730 [21:56] <Mathuin> Or is it decorative?
#7731 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Copy and paste exactly what it gives you in ipconfig here
#7732 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Just those two lines
#7733 [21:56] <Mathuin> torkethe: yeah, pastebin'ing the output of ipconfig or ifconfig if you're Windows or not respectively.
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#7736 [21:58] <torkethe> i have a print screen where do you want it
#7737 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> imgur.com
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#7739 [21:59] <Blabagas> hello
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#7741 [21:59] <Blabagas> hello?
#7742 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#7743 [21:59] <Mathuin> Blabagas: hello.
#7744 [22:00] <Blabagas> I was wondering if I could have some help with something
#7745 [22:00] <Mathuin> Ask.
#7746 [22:00] <Blabagas> I was on the other day asking about my client
#7747 [22:00] <torkethe> http://i.imgur.com/yJwsu.png
#7748 [22:00] <Blabagas> they said I didnt have enough ram
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#7750 [22:01] <Mathuin> torkethe: _none_ of those have evil netmasks as you described.
#7751 [22:01] <Mathuin> They're all 255.255.255.0 which is traditional Class C.
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#7753 [22:01] <Mathuin> None of them are 255.255.255._10_ which is good for you.
#7754 [22:01] <torkethe> yea he has
#7755 [22:01] <Blabagas> but apparently there is a way to make minecraft use less ram on startup
#7756 [22:01] <Mathuin> Because the dot-ten is totally effed.
#7757 [22:01] <Xerati> Mathuin, not exactly
#7758 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> This looks much better
#7759 [22:02] <Blabagas> so do you know how to do that?
#7760 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Why.. do you have 3 connections?
#7761 [22:02] <Blabagas> who?
#7762 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> torkethe.
#7763 [22:02] <Mathuin> Xerati: It's technically possible to use a netmask which isn't all-ones from the left to a ponit and all-zeros from that point to the right, but 99.999+% of folks wouldn't use it.
#7764 [22:02] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: I figured it was wifi, wired, and dmz wired.
#7765 [22:03] <torkethe> how the school has it set up
#7766 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Heh, okay then
#7767 [22:03] <ZaxCG2> Real quick guys: Do I have any hope of getting the new Mac launcher working?
#7768 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Can I get a SS of his ipconfig as well?
#7769 [22:03] <Mathuin> I mean, the only one of those with a gateway is the wifi one.
#7770 [22:03] <Blabagas> hello? do you guys know the solution to my problem?
#7771 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - If you get the .jar from minecraft.net
#7772 [22:03] <Mathuin> Blabagas: You can start with less memory, but it may not work and if it does it'll suck.
#7773 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#7774 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Download the .jar
#7775 [22:04] <Blabagas> ok
#7776 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Use the -Xms and -Xmx arguments for initial and final RAM
#7777 [22:04] <torkethe> we have it
#7778 [22:04] <relsqui> hey guys--I'm building a vertical tunnel that lava will flow through and I'm worried about messing it up. if I build the negative tunnel (the part that will be open) out of wood, and then make the tunnel around it, can I just pour the lava through and burn out the wood?
#7779 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> That'll set how much ram java is taking
#7780 [22:04] <relsqui> basically, will lava consume wood in an enclosed space?
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#7782 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, good question. I know that logs are unbugged now, before they burned forever
#7783 [22:05] <Mathuin> Yeah, I miss my infinitely burnign totem pole.
#7784 [22:05] <relsqui> this may call for a small test
#7785 [22:05] <Blabagas> youve lost me now GreyVulpine
#7786 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#7787 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the minecraft.jar link?
#7788 [22:06] <Blabagas> yeah I did that
#7789 [22:06] <Blabagas> now what?
#7790 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to launch it via a command line, or batch file, or bash script?
#7791 [22:06] <torkethe> yea we have downloaded it
#7792 [22:06] <Blabagas> no ive got no idea
#7793 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - What operating system are you on?
#7794 [22:06] <Blabagas> xp
#7795 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - Okay, first off, do you have file extensions turned on?
#7796 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the file as minecraft, or minecraft.jar
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#7798 [22:07] <Blabagas> um hold on
#7799 [22:07] * relsqui builds a little column to test
#7799 [22:07] <Blabagas> minecraft.jar
#7800 [22:07] <CanaDon> So... i cant get the web client to work.. but i haven't attempted to update it
#7801 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Okay, in the same directory where you have minecraft.jar, right click, go to "new" and make a new text document
#7802 [22:07] <CanaDon> any ideas?
#7803 [22:07] <relsqui> GreyVulpine: for future reference, it doesn't work
#7804 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Aw
#7805 [22:08] <CanaDon> i installed the latest java
#7806 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - In the text document, you'll want to then paste the command line to launch the minecraft client
#7807 [22:08] <relsqui> yeah, sad. that would've been handy.
#7808 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you want to allocate?
#7809 [22:08] <CanaDon> getting a black screen after the intiial log on, then i get a white screen if i click on it
#7810 [22:08] <Blabagas> just a sec
#7811 [22:08] <Mathuin> relsqui: what about flint-and-steel ? I haven't tried to burn planks.
#7812 [22:08] <torkethe> here greyVulpine http://pastebin.com/xnAugAM8
#7813 [22:09] <relsqui> Mathuin: well, on the thing on I'm prototyping for, I won't be able to do that
#7814 [22:09] <relsqui> Mathuin: it's at the bottom of a long shaft
#7815 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - How about the screenshot of his ipconfig?
#7816 [22:09] <Blabagas> less than .98 gig
#7817 [22:09] <relsqui> that's sealed, because, well, I'm going to fill it with lava
#7818 [22:09] <Mathuin> relsqui: Ah.
#7819 [22:09] <torkethe> its the same as mine dude we just looked over it i can tell you that 100%
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#7821 [22:09] <umbridge> http://www.minecraftaddicts.com/showthread.php/2207-Minecraft-1.2_02-and-old-launcher-Downloads?p=8258
#7822 [22:09] <relsqui> I guess I'll just do the best I can
#7823 [22:10] <Mathuin> torkethe: If it's the same as yours, he doesn't have the crazy .10 which means you have a much better chance of this working.
#7824 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Then you have an ip address of 192.168.1.4, and his is 192.168.1.8?
#7825 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Then try connecting with 192.168.1.8
#7826 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, it's a security/firewall software issue
#7827 [22:11] <torkethe> dosnt work
#7828 [22:11] <torkethe> we turned off all the firewalls
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#7830 [22:11] <unknwn> f
#7831 [22:12] <unknwn> hi all
#7832 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> What firewalls are he running
#7833 [22:12] <torkethe> and it worked a hour ago and havent changed anything
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#7835 [22:12] <Blabagas> so what now greyvulpine?
#7836 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - How much RAM do you want to allocate?
#7837 [22:12] <Blabagas> less than .98 gig
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#7840 [22:12] <unknwn> i download a map from forum..How can i install it? In map's folder there are .mcr files
#7841 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have free Blabagas?
#7842 [22:13] <torkethe> trend micro and windows defeinder
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#7844 [22:13] <Blabagas> it says .98 RAM total on properties
#7845 [22:13] <trandin0> Is it possible to transfer my current minecraft 1.3 beta server, to another computer? and how would I do that while keeping all of the save data?
#7846 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - In your task manager, under performance, how much RAM is 'available' or 'free'
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#7848 [22:14] <unknwn> i tried to put the map in "save" folder, but it's not worl
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#7850 [22:14] <Blabagas> just a sec
#7851 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> trandin0 - yes, just transfer the entire server directory over
#7852 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> make sure the 'world' folder is inside
#7853 [22:14] <unknwn> yes
#7854 [22:14] <Yojimomo> Is this where I go for connection issues?
#7855 [22:14] <unknwn> i put the map in world1 folder
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#7859 [22:15] <trandin0> I downloaded the exe... I dunno what folder it would be in.
#7860 [22:15] <unknwn> but, when i start the game in world1, game generate new map
#7861 [22:15] <torkethe> greyVulpine???
#7862 [22:15] <Blabagas> GreyVulpine which number in processes?
#7863 [22:15] <Rainy> you don't need a folder trandin0 o.O
#7864 [22:15] <Rainy> i can't seem to log in
#7865 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - There should be a heading for physical memory, then 'available'
#7866 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - sec
#7867 [22:16] <euphoria> hi. i haven't been able to connect for the past few hours. are the servers down?
#7868 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> euphoria - Yes
#7869 [22:16] <Rainy> oh...
#7870 [22:16] <euphoria> ;_;
#7871 [22:16] <trandin0> so just take the minecraft server.exe and send it over to another computer?
#7872 [22:16] <Blabagas> a bit less than 200,000
#7873 [22:16] <Rainy> you should put that as a channel header ><
#7874 [22:16] <Blabagas> so not much lol
#7875 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> trandin0 - take the minecraft_server.exe, as well as everything that's in that directory, over
#7876 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> It should've made a 'world' folder
#7877 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> As well as several other files
#7878 [22:17] <Yojimomo> Me and my friend are having trouble logging into minecraft.net on teh client however other friends seem to have no problem. Why?
#7879 [22:17] <Rainy> is isminecraftdown.net a reliable indicator?
#7880 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> banned-ips.txt, banned-players.txt, ops.txt, server.log, server.properties, white-list.txt
#7881 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Meh
#7882 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#7883 [22:17] <unknwn> how can i install the map, which contain .mcr files?
#7884 [22:17] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7885 [22:18] <Blabagas> GreyVulpine around 195,000
#7886 [22:18] <Yojimomo> thank you
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#7888 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> You only have 195 megs free? gah
#7889 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Then um
#7890 [22:18] <Blabagas> lol
#7891 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> In the text file you made, paste this in
#7892 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx128M -Xms128M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#7893 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Save it
#7894 [22:19] <torkethe> GreyVupine: we know how to turn off firewalls if thats what your looking for
#7895 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Rename the filename.txt to filename.bat
#7896 [22:19] <unknwn> how can i install the map, which contain .mcr files?
#7897 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Then use that file to execute
#7898 [22:19] <Blabagas> should I expect really bed fps GreyVulpine?
#7899 [22:19] <Blabagas> bad*
#7900 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> I honestly couldn't tell you
#7901 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> I haven't needed to run minecraft on that little ram
#7902 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> unknwn - How did you get the world?
#7903 [22:20] <ZaxCG2> so uh… is the new launcher working for anyone on Mac?
#7904 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Then why isn't the connection getting through?
#7905 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> You're a computer engineer. What else is running on the machine that might be refusing connections?
#7906 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Are you connecting with the right IP?
#7907 [22:21] <torkethe> yes and its probably minecraft its self
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#7909 [22:21] <unknwn> GreyVulpine don't understand the question.
#7910 [22:21] <Blabagas> so where do I put the text document GreyVulpine?
#7911 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - You should've created it in the same folder as where you got minecraft.jar
#7912 [22:21] <torkethe> nothing is running on the computers that should be blocking minecraft due to we can hold lan parties
#7913 [22:21] <Blabagas> so like in downloads GreyVulpine?
#7914 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes Blabagas
#7915 [22:21] <Blabagas> ok
#7916 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> torkethe - Minecraft usually goes through port 25565/TCP
#7917 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> You're sure all the firewalls are down, and not just merely configured incorrectly
#7918 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> unknwn - How did you get the saved world?
#7919 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Did you get it zipped up? From where?
#7920 [22:23] <torkethe> yep and he is running it on that port and nothing on our computers is running on that and yes we have checked like 20 times
#7921 [22:23] <unknwn> i download from forum
#7922 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> unknwn - Then, when you extracted the world, was it in a folder?
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#7925 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> with level.dat and other files as well?
#7926 [22:24] <unknwn> yes..level.dat and two folders DIM-1 and region
#7927 [22:24] <mib_v7vt69> hm
#7928 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> unknwn - Then all you need to do is move the folder itself into .minecraft/saves
#7929 [22:25] <mib_v7vt69> which launcher am i using cuz i finally found the one tht stil connects and its even updated to 1.3.01 fine single and multi
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#7931 [22:25] <Blabagas> didnt work GreyVulpine
#7932 [22:25] <ZaxCG2> Okay… one last time. Is there any solution to the 1.3_1 launcher for mac? It wont connect.
#7933 [22:25] <mib_v7vt69> it looks very basic jus simple login screen 2 boxes no optional update shiz
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#7935 [22:25] <Harloff> Hey
#7936 [22:25] <mib_v7vt69> yeh
#7937 [22:25] <Harloff> I can't login?
#7938 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> ZaxCG2 - The 1.3_01 launcher was specifically updated for mac, to remove dependances on java 1.6
#7939 [22:25] <mib_v7vt69> us the launcher im using as iv just accidentally discovered
#7940 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> That made it not work before
#7941 [22:26] <mib_v7vt69> funny enuf this is a mac .jar on linux i think
#7942 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> ??> Harloff overloaded
#7943 [22:26] <VoxelHead> Harloff: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#7944 [22:26] <mib_v7vt69> not sure which launcher it is tbf but it works online and up to date
#7945 [22:26] <unknwn> GreyVulpine i move all files in folder world1(or 2,3,4,5), but map not woks
#7946 [22:26] <Harloff> Thanks for the answers!
#7947 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> unknwn - You can't move the folder into an existing folder.
#7948 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> It needs to be in its own folder
#7949 [22:26] <torkethe> i am positive it has to do with minecraft its self
#7950 [22:27] <Blabagas> GreyVulpine I was meant to change the name from filename.txt to filename.bat right?
#7951 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes Blabagas
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#7953 [22:27] <Blabagas> GreyVulpine you said launch with that but it's still a txt document
#7954 [22:28] <Chaze007> xales: you around?
#7955 [22:28] <mib_v7vt69> well iv been trying the new launcher all day no success all of a sudden i stumble upon an old launcher and it works str8 away and updates to 1.3.01
#7956 [22:28] <DopeGhoti> torkethe: easliy testable: try to telnet to Minecraft's TCP port
#7957 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - Okay, you must not have file extensions enabled then. Go back into the text document. Resave it, at the save prompt, in the file types at the bottom, choose "all files", and manually save the file as filename.bat
#7958 [22:28] <mib_v7vt69> i think the current launcher must have severe issues
#7959 [22:29] <ZaxCG2> yeah I think so too
#7960 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_v7vt69 - It does, the authentication server is down/overloaded
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#7962 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> At least, the SSL one it uses
#7963 [22:29] <mib_v7vt69> but im in now
#7964 [22:29] <torkethe> tried
#7965 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> The old one doesn't use SSL
#7966 [22:29] <mib_v7vt69> i can log in out as i please with this other launcher so whats the point
#7967 [22:29] <ZaxCG2> ahhh
#7968 [22:29] <DopeGhoti> the new one is also on a different server entirely
#7969 [22:30] <mib_v7vt69> hmm
#7970 [22:30] <ZaxCG2> where can I find an old launcher?
#7971 [22:30] <ZaxCG2> nevermind
#7972 [22:30] <ZaxCG2> I have time machine wooop
#7973 [22:30] <noroth> aw goodness - thought i worked my way around it. lots of people having the 'Can't connect to minecraft.net' error im assuming?
#7974 [22:30] <ZaxCG2> yeah
#7975 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes noroth
#7976 [22:30] <mib_v7vt69> http://www.minecraftaddicts.com/showthread.php/2207-Minecraft-1.2_02-and-old-launcher-Downloads?p=8258
#7977 [22:31] <mib_v7vt69> thts the one tht works for me tbf
#7978 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Please don't post links like that here
#7979 [22:31] <Mathuin> Okay, beds are officially *awesome*
#7980 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> It's technically against the ToS of minecraft to distribute clients
#7981 [22:31] <mib_v7vt69> i no i shudnt but it works so jus lettin ppl hav the launcher
#7982 [22:31] <DopeGhoti> mib_v7vt69: Don't. Final warning.
#7983 [22:31] <Mathuin> mib_v7vt69: if you must violate the terms of service, do it with private messages so nobody gets around to banning you. :-P
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#7985 [22:31] <ZaxCG2> sorry bro, didn't know it wasnt allowed :T\
#7986 [22:31] <mib_v7vt69> sorry
#7987 [22:31] <Blabagas> GreyVulpine Its still a txt document
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#7989 [22:32] <Mathuin> I do want to say beds rule. I no longer have to sit around and waste time waiting.
#7990 [22:32] <Blabagas> ohwait
#7991 [22:32] <mib_v7vt69> i thought as i own the game i can regain any launcher i like as iv paid like
#7992 [22:32] <Blabagas> nvm
#7993 [22:32] <DopeGhoti> mib_v7vt69: you can keep them, but they explicitly say "Do not distribute". End of discussion.
#7994 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - Okay, um, can you go to "My Computer", go up to "Tools" at the top, then "Folder Options", in the view tab, can you uncheck "hide extensions for known file types
#7995 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> If you don't see "Tools", hit your alt key
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#7997 [22:33] <DopeGhoti> Apropos of nothing: Civ V's cows are a lot less annoying than Minecraft's.
#7998 [22:33] <Blabagas> omg your legend GreVulpine
#7999 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Now do you see the file extension of that file?
#8000 [22:34] <Blabagas> It works GreyVulpine
#8001 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Great
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#8003 [22:34] <Blabagas> thanks
#8004 [22:34] <unknwn> GreyVulpine i must put all files(level.dat,level.dat_old,BiomeTerrainModSettings.ini,session.lock and folders "region" and "DIM-1") in World1(or 2,3,4,5)folder?
#8005 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#8006 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> unknwn - Delete whatever is in world1 before you move ALL the files into it
#8007 [22:35] <unknwn> yes
#8008 [22:35] <Blabagas> GreyVulpine also, the fps is exactly the same
#8009 [22:35] <unknwn> i delet all
#8010 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - That pretty much figures.
#8011 [22:35] <unknwn> i put all files into empty wrld1 folder
#8012 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Okay...
#8013 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. BiomeTerrainModSettings?
#8014 [22:36] <Blabagas> One more thing GreyVulpine, do mods make the game more laggy?
#8015 [22:36] <unknwn> but when i chose world1 in game, game generate new world
#8016 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - Not necessarily.
#8017 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - I can't make a blanket statement about all mods.
#8018 [22:37] <Blabagas> ok thanks for the help and bye =]
#8019 [22:37] <Rainy> if you have that instant spawning tnt mod then yes
#8020 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Sure, laters Blabagas
#8021 [22:37] <Blabagas> bye
#8022 [22:37] <unknwn> and game create in wolrd1 folder many folders(1,2,3,4,5,1f,1g, etc)
#8023 [22:37] <Mathuin> Another happy customer. ;-)
#8024 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> unknwn - Yeah, I think that's what you wanted though
#8025 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> The person that gave you that, only gave you the world's seed
#8026 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Not the whole world
#8027 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> The world's seed lets you generate the world the he had as well
#8028 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> The world's seed is located in the level.dat file
#8029 [22:39] <Mathuin> The world seed is only for terrain, I thought, not for ore placement or monsters.
#8030 [22:39] <unknwn> but map contain .mcr files
#8031 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#8032 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> "The map seed is only used by the world generator, and not for other stuff (such as spawn location, how many items mobs drop etc)."
#8033 [22:40] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: ore _is_ terrain
#8034 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> I'm not sure, but I think that includes ores as well.
#8035 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> unknwn - If you had downloaded a more complete map, you would've gotten those dozens of folders as well
#8036 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> The dozens of folders contain the actual map data
#8037 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> The one you got, was only the map's seed, nothing else
#8038 [22:41] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: yes, you're right re: ore -- http://mojang.com/2011/02/23/a-short-demystification-of-the-map-seed/
#8039 [22:42] <unknwn> it's means than .mcr files - this is map's seeds?
#8040 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#8041 [22:43] * GreyVulpine looks at his saves
#8041 [22:43] <DopeGhoti> I'm not certain, but I think the .mcr files are the new quadchunk (or 'region') files
#8042 [22:43] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: they are.
#8043 [22:43] <Mathuin> From MCRegion, the mod from which they came.
#8044 [22:44] <unknwn> i must install that mod?
#8045 [22:44] <Mathuin> No.
#8046 [22:44] <Mathuin> Notch and company took what the mod author did and made it part of the game itself.
#8047 [22:44] <unknwn> i can open the map, which contain these .mcr files
#8048 [22:44] <unknwn> (((
#8049 [22:45] <roblog> finally. took me two damn hours to find the usb dongle for my wireless keyboard and mouse. i am so tired of having to be so close to my laptop to type.
#8050 [22:45] <unknwn> game ganerate new world, but not open it
#8051 [22:45] <unknwn> *cant
#8052 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and you left the .mcr files inside the region folder unknwn?
#8053 [22:45] <unknwn> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=187489
#8054 [22:45] <unknwn> this map
#8055 [22:46] <roblog> can't put it on the bed or the fans get blocked and it overheats... so i have to put it on a bedside table which means i spend my whole time leaning on one elbow to elevate myself to the keyboard. eff that.
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#8057 [22:47] <DopeGhoti> roblog: or get a $2 plank of wood, and use that as a lapdesk.
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#8059 [22:47] <Adam> Hello
#8060 [22:47] <roblog> DopeGhoti: eh. wireless keyboard and mouse work even better. i can be lazy and lay about while playing minecraft.
#8061 [22:48] <Adam> i have a problem guys
#8062 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> With?
#8063 [22:48] <Adam> my game won't connect to mincraft
#8064 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#8065 [22:48] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#8066 [22:48] <Adam> It hasn't been working all day and some
#8067 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> It's been the same for everybody
#8068 [22:49] <Adam> Ok, thanks just wanted to make sure, I can't even update to 1.3
#8069 [22:49] <roblog> i found this really bitchin' steampunk texture pack... and it makes minecraft feel like a whole new game again. i am in love with it.
#8070 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Grr, can't get minecraft to launch on opera, crashing browser.
#8071 [22:51] * GreyVulpine reboots
#8071 [22:52] <Parfait> are clay ever underwater?
#8072 [22:52] <Adam> oh
#8073 [22:52] <Adam> yeah forogot
#8074 [22:52] <Adam> Whenever I try to connect to a server (SMP)
#8075 [22:53] <Adam> It says user is not premium...
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#8077 [22:56] <Adam> And my skin page just says "Or not..."
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#8081 [22:58] <Mathuin> roblog: URL?
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#8083 [22:59] <Adam> Anyone have the same problem?
#8084 [22:59] <roblog> Mathuin: it's on the minecraft forums. search 'glitter steampunk'
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#8086 [23:00] <roblog> i'm playing single player right now and firefox slows it way the hell down.
#8087 [23:00] <roblog> af-irc.
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#8089 [23:01] <Adavis> Hi All, can't login at all. Getting "Can't connect to minecraft.net". I can login to my profile on minecraft.net just fine, and even use the browser-based version
#8090 [23:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> Adavis overloaded
#8091 [23:01] <VoxelHead> Adavis: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
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#8093 [23:02] <Adavis> Got it. Thanks bots. :)
#8094 [23:02] <ur_0wner> What do I do if I have been hacked?
#8095 [23:03] <xales> ur_0wner: what would make you think that?
#8096 [23:03] <ur_0wner> says my username/password is incorrect
#8097 [23:03] <xales> where does it say this?
#8098 [23:04] <ur_0wner> minecraft.net login form
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#8100 [23:04] <xales> ur_0wner: did you try using the email password reset thing?
#8101 [23:04] <ur_0wner> yes but I have not had a reply in about 40 minutes
#8102 [23:05] <ur_0wner> the first time i did it, it gave me some error about not being able to find the email
#8103 [23:05] <xales> ur_0wner: email payment@mojang.com then
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#8105 [23:05] <Temragon> I know the new launcher can do it, but we obviously can't log in with that right now, so.. How do you force minecraft to launch the previous version? (I already have the old .minecraft folder)
#8106 [23:06] <ur_0wner> download the old launcher or jar
#8107 [23:06] <xales> you would replace the new .minecraft folder with the old one
#8108 [23:06] <ur_0wner> try to find a trusted source
#8109 [23:06] <xales> though that won't fix the problem
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#8111 [23:06] <xales> it's the launcher, not the game itself, causing it
#8112 [23:07] <xales> though, it's best to just wait 2 or 3 hours when Mojang gets up
#8113 [23:07] <ur_0wner> what time is it for them right now?
#8114 [23:08] <Temragon> Is the only way (I have the old launcher too, should've mentioned) to play offline? that is, no way to play on a smp server running the old version?
#8115 [23:08] <xales> not sure, but they usually come on irc an hour or two from now
#8116 [23:08] <xales> just google "time in sweden"
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#8118 [23:08] <xales> Temragon: you can play on an smp server running an old version if you are also running the old version
#8119 [23:09] <xales> you can play offline using either launcher, but cannot play multiplayer at all while in offline mode
#8120 [23:09] <Temragon> xales: Right, but won't the smp server deny you for not being premium if you don't login? 0_o So I'm missing the how of old launcher -> old version -> smp
#8121 [23:10] <xales> Temragon: the old launcher connects to the old auth server
#8122 [23:10] <xales> which is being used less so is more stable
#8123 [23:10] <xales> so you might actually be able to log in
#8124 [23:10] <Temragon> But if the old launcher logs in, it automatically updates.
#8125 [23:11] <xales> there is a solution, but it's problematic and just causes issues
#8126 [23:11] <xales> it's best to just wait an hour or so when the server can be fixed
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#8128 [23:12] <braincreation> old launcher does not use ssl and does not check against private key, so you can create your own auth server fine
#8129 [23:13] <braincreation> if you have access to server and change dns or hosts
#8130 [23:13] <braincreation> new one u have to patch launcher to do that
#8131 [23:13] <braincreation> which i don't recommend
#8132 [23:13] <DopeGhoti> braincreation: let's not talk about how to crack Minecraft in the support channel, mmkay?
#8133 [23:13] <DopeGhoti> thanks
#8134 [23:13] <braincreation> was not meaning for cracking, was meaning for auth if main server down
#8135 [23:14] <braincreation> but np
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#8137 [23:14] <quaddle> sup guys
#8138 [23:14] <braincreation> hi
#8139 [23:14] <quaddle> i am so pissed of
#8140 [23:14] <quaddle> how's everybody playing 1.3
#8141 [23:14] <quaddle> i got the new launcher
#8142 [23:14] <braincreation> plays fine
#8143 [23:14] <quaddle> try to log in
#8144 [23:14] <quaddle> and say can't conect to minecraft.net
#8145 [23:14] <Temragon> Either use the old launcher or play online
#8146 [23:14] <DopeGhoti> ??> quaddle overloaded
#8147 [23:14] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#8148 [23:15] <backlit> I'm having the same issue quaddle
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#8150 [23:15] <quaddle> oh
#8151 [23:15] <quaddle> gonna try web mode then
#8152 [23:15] <Temragon> DopeGhoti: A alternate server isn't cracking Minecraft :p Still a unsuitable topic, but hey XD
#8153 [23:15] <Temragon> xales: Meh, alright. Thanks for the help
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#8156 [23:16] <kermit7654567> Canot connect to mc.net - is it down?
#8157 [23:16] <mib_j7xma5> Me neither
#8158 [23:16] <Temragon> kermit7654567: Use the old client or play online through the site
#8159 [23:16] <kermit7654567> any links to dload the old client?
#8160 [23:16] <Temragon> Why hasn't this been made a announcement on the forums or in the channel topic?
#8161 [23:17] <braincreation> someone should just set a timer to announce that every 30 sec
#8162 [23:17] <Temragon> http://www.mediafire.com/?hqv4tl6ivgav7pm
#8163 [23:17] <kermit7654567> thx
#8164 [23:17] <mib_j7xma5> ty
#8165 [23:17] <DopeGhoti> Temragon: Do not post links to the old client
#8166 [23:17] <Mathuin> Oooh, has brown and bloom been updated?
#8167 [23:17] <Temragon> Found it on the forums/ymmv/works for me/don't trust anyone
#8168 [23:17] <wendall911> Temragon: good question, asked the same thing when I got here
#8169 [23:17] <DopeGhoti> it explicitly says "Do not distribute"
#8170 [23:17] <xales> ^
#8171 [23:17] <mib_j7xma5> Ummm im playing on a Mac >.<
#8172 [23:17] <mib_j7xma5> i need another link
#8173 [23:18] <Temragon> Hey DopeGhoti, why don't you do something useful and modify the channel topic to say people should use the web client, then
#8174 [23:18] <Temragon> (inb4 kicked for pointing out the obvious)
#8175 [23:18] <DopeGhoti> Temragon: because I prefer to be civil before getting out my magic @.
#8176 [23:18] <mib_j7xma5> Temragon could you send me Mac link?
#8177 [23:18] <Temragon> no, I can't
#8178 [23:18] <DopeGhoti> mib_j7xma5: Don't request links either, please.
#8179 [23:18] <braincreation> I wish the kick command in minecraft would animate the player being kicked, similar to a punch
#8180 [23:18] <xales> mib_j7xma5: just wait until the servers are up again in an hour or two
#8181 [23:19] <Temragon> A: There isn't one, B: You don't need one, C: Play through the web client
#8182 [23:19] <Mathuin> braincreation: throwing the character back in the air slow motion?
#8183 [23:19] <Temragon> DopeGhoti: That's not a answer to my question, more of a reply to my inb4 =)
#8184 [23:19] <braincreation> more throwing into the air
#8185 [23:19] <braincreation> to not be on the server
#8186 [23:19] <mib_j7xma5> I cant play thru the web client >.<
#8187 [23:19] <braincreation> once they hit past 64 blocks up
#8188 [23:19] <braincreation> they disconnect
#8189 [23:19] <Temragon> mib_j7xma5: Then as xales kindly pointed out to me, wait a hour.
#8190 [23:19] <zrbecker> mib_j7xma5, after downloading on the web client it allowed me to play offline on the downloaded client.
#8191 [23:19] <zrbecker> im on a mac
#8192 [23:19] <Mathuin> I'd prefer to see a magical portal appear behind them and suck them into it.
#8193 [23:19] <Temragon> or that.
#8194 [23:20] <backlit> so if this connection is down, can we not connect to 3rd party servers?
#8195 [23:20] <backlit> i.e. the reddit server
#8196 [23:20] <Mathuin> I have been playing single-player offline. It's still sorta fun. :-P
#8197 [23:20] <braincreation> that just reminded me of america mcgees alice for some reason
#8198 [23:20] <Temragon> If you log in with either the old client or the web client, you can play on smp backlit
#8199 [23:20] <Temragon> So long as the smp server is updated
#8200 [23:20] <wendall911> backlit: the auth server is not responding, it's not the individual game servers
#8201 [23:20] <braincreation> so who has turned off smooth lighting in favor for brightness
#8202 [23:21] <backlit> alright well I must be having trouble connecting to the 3rd party server then
#8203 [23:21] <Temragon> The new auth server*
#8204 [23:21] <backlit> is that what you're saying?
#8205 [23:21] <mib_j7xma5> Um when i play in browser it doesent show any window at all :/
#8206 [23:21] <braincreation> lol old client instant login
#8207 [23:21] <braincreation> its wonderful
#8208 [23:21] <braincreation> new client times out
#8209 [23:22] <braincreation> client = launcher
#8210 [23:22] <mib_j7xma5> can enybody play on the new Launcher?
#8211 [23:22] <Temragon> Yeah, because they deployed the new launcher right before bed time for some reason then couldn't a failure under load =P
#8212 [23:22] <Temragon> catch a*
#8213 [23:22] <braincreation> new launcher was deployed a few days ago
#8214 [23:23] <Temragon> Didn't he provide a link to it for testing?
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#8216 [23:23] <Temragon> Not actually deploy it for everyone?
#8217 [23:23] <RecoJohnson> I am trying to use the .jar version of the new minecraft launcher.
#8218 [23:23] <RecoJohnson> It is not working at all.
#8219 [23:23] <RecoJohnson> Any ideas?
#8220 [23:23] <Temragon> RecoJohnson: Wait a hour+ till they fix it
#8221 [23:23] <Temragon> Or use the old launcher WHICH SHALL NOT BE LINKED LESS UNHOLY @ WRATH DESCEND UPON THE UNWORTHY etc
#8222 [23:23] <mib_j7xma5> oh god not an hour more like 4 hours!
#8223 [23:23] <mib_j7xma5> its only 5.23 here in sweden
#8224 [23:23] <braincreation> http://old.launcher
#8225 [23:23] <mib_j7xma5> >:<
#8226 [23:24] <RecoJohnson> i have the old launcher, i was just seeing if it worked or maybe i was doing something wrong.
#8227 [23:24] <wendall911> RecoJohnson: did you read the channel topic when you got here? Just curious, it doesn't say anything useful.
#8228 [23:24] <braincreation> he just tried the new launcher
#8229 [23:24] <braincreation> 5th "try again" and it connected
#8230 [23:24] <RecoJohnson> after they fix it, will this work to start the loader - "java -Xincgc -Xmx1536M -jar Minecraft.jar"
#8231 [23:24] <braincreation> have not been able to repeat
#8232 [23:25] <xales> RecoJohnson: you should not start the launcher like that
#8233 [23:25] <xales> just "java -jar Minecraft.jar"
#8234 [23:25] <xales> the options will just create significant problems
#8235 [23:25] <braincreation> you can launch the exe with -jar also
#8236 [23:25] <RecoJohnson> how can i increase the memory used, i have 4gig of ram.
#8237 [23:25] <braincreation> if you want to see debug output
#8238 [23:25] <wendall911> xales: why isn't the site updated then
#8239 [23:25] <xales> you don't need to, and can't using the launcher
#8240 [23:25] <xales> wendall911: that is for the server. not the launcher.
#8241 [23:26] * wendall911 looks again, because yesterday this wasn't the case
#8241 [23:26] <RecoJohnson> Is there anything i can do to at least allow 1gig of ram to be used for minecraft?
#8242 [23:26] <Temragon> braincreation: COMMENCE LOGIN SPAM
#8243 [23:26] <wendall911> xales: hmm, yeah, that would be because that's not what the site says
#8244 [23:27] <xales> RecoJohnson: it already works like that
#8245 [23:27] <braincreation> Temragon, i'll pass, I was just testing
#8246 [23:27] <wendall911> is there anyone here who actually has a single thing to do with minecraft proper, or just fans?
#8247 [23:27] <Temragon> braincreation: I am, I want to play on my non-updated server :p
#8248 [23:27] <braincreation> ssl alone uses more cpu, ssl + tomcat = dos
#8249 [23:27] <xales> wendall911: we have significantly more contact with them then the public, but we don't actually work for them
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#8251 [23:27] <wendall911> xales: well, you may want to read what's clearly published on the website
#8252 [23:27] <xales> wendall911: and again, specifying the memory parameters like that is specifically for the server
#8253 [23:27] <braincreation> this is user support
#8254 [23:27] <braincreation> community support
#8255 [23:28] <Paeochlo> Hello all may i ask a few questions about a minecraft server?
#8256 [23:28] <xales> braincreation: semi-official
#8257 [23:28] <RecoJohnson> ok so can i allow the minecraft server to use more ram?
#8258 [23:28] <xales> we are on the main site
#8259 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Paeochlo - Feel free
#8260 [23:28] <Temragon> Official channel is #minecraft, isn't it?
#8261 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes temp
#8262 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> er, Temragon
#8263 [23:28] <xales> RecoJohnson: "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#8264 [23:28] <RecoJohnson> Can i make it 2gig?
#8265 [23:28] <xales> replace 1024M with how much RAM the server should use
#8266 [23:28] <RecoJohnson> will it still work?
#8267 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes RecoJohnson
#8268 [23:28] <RecoJohnson> kk
#8269 [23:28] <Paeochlo> i just made one and when i join my own there is no land at all i just fall with all the chickens and cows
#8270 [23:28] <xales> if you have 2GB for the server to use
#8271 [23:28] <braincreation> you can also make server use more ram by allocating a ram tmpfs for the world storage
#8272 [23:28] <wendall911> xales: do you need me to link to the download page for you to read?
#8273 [23:28] <RecoJohnson> Is there a max i can set it to?
#8274 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Paeochlo - Then a security software somewhere is blocking it
#8275 [23:29] <wendall911> xales: or just keep repeating the same thing?
#8276 [23:29] <RecoJohnson> Like what if i have an 8gig server
#8277 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> RecoJohnson - java -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#8278 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Will reserve 2 gigs
#8279 [23:29] <RecoJohnson> Will giving the server 7gig of ram to use help? Or is like 2gig enough.
#8280 [23:29] <braincreation> you will reduce cpu io stalls by using ram but it means power off lose work, unless you cron rsync
#8281 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> RecoJohnson - Depends on how many people you plan on having
#8282 [23:30] <Paeochlo> any idea what i can do about it im at my wits end
#8283 [23:30] <xales> braincreation: that is a ramdisk, which is not what is being discussed right now
#8284 [23:30] <RecoJohnson> 5 people lol
#8285 [23:30] <xales> wendall911: that's specifically for out of memory errors, not meant as general use
#8286 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> RecoJohnson - a gig is plenty
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#8288 [23:30] <Tpimp> help please
#8289 [23:30] <RecoJohnson> ok thanks guys.
#8290 [23:30] <Tpimp> any1
#8291 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Tpimp - With
#8292 [23:30] <Tpimp> K
#8293 [23:30] <Tpimp> It says
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#8295 [23:30] <Tpimp> when i start minecraft
#8296 [23:30] <braincreation> he is looking at using his avail ram to increase performance of his mc server, how is that not on topic
#8297 [23:30] <wendall911> xales: hmm, because that's not what it says, so I guess you might mention to someone to update the website
#8298 [23:30] <RecoJohnson> Wait last question, any improvments using a .jar over .exe? Better performance or anything?
#8299 [23:31] <Temragon> Tpimp: Play through the website. Also, put all your words on one line, it helps
#8300 [23:31] <braincreation> no exe is a jar wrapper
#8301 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> RecoJohnson - More controllability over the launch arguments
#8302 [23:31] <xales> braincreation: you said something about ramdisks, which is unrelated to what is being talked about
#8303 [23:31] <Tpimp> dont alert me
#8304 [23:31] <Tpimp> it helps too
#8305 [23:31] <xales> wendall911: that is, in fact, what it says
#8306 [23:31] <Temragon> Tpimp: Sure it does =)
#8307 [23:31] <Tpimp> .
#8308 [23:31] <Tpimp> fag
#8309 [23:31] <Tpimp> so
#8310 [23:31] <xales> wendall911: "Download Minecraft.jar, an executable jar file. It might work as-is.
#8311 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Tpimp - What is your problem?
#8312 [23:31] <xales> If you run into out of memory errors, try launching it with java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#8313 [23:32] <Tpimp> when i start minecraft and try to login, it says it isnt downloaded
#8314 [23:32] <Tpimp> ..
#8315 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#8316 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> It isn't downloaded?
#8317 [23:32] <wendall911> xales: ok, so you 1. didn't read the information clearly on the download page 2. are irritating with pasting stuff I did read
#8318 [23:32] <Tpimp> u want a pic?
#8319 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#8320 [23:32] <Tpimp> k one sec
#8321 [23:32] <Paeochlo> tpimp i ran into that problem today just log on in a browser then run in on your comp
#8322 [23:32] <wendall911> xales: not sure why you are a channel op if you just tell people they are stupid. I can read.
#8323 [23:33] <Tpimp> what
#8324 [23:33] <Tpimp> lol?
#8325 [23:33] <xales> wendall911: aparrantly you fail the literacy test. "IF YOU RUN INTO OUT OF MEMORY ERRORS, TRY LAUNCHING IT"
#8326 [23:33] <xales> etc.
#8327 [23:33] <wendall911> xales: ok, cool
#8328 [23:33] <xales> an attitude like that will not be tolerated, you can leave if you cannot be somewhat respectful of that fact that I give my time to help people
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#8330 [23:33] <xales> nobody makes me do this; nobody pays me.
#8331 [23:33] <Paeochlo> Tpipm Log on to the website and use the play in browser link first
#8332 [23:34] <braincreation> wow, I how on the ball xales is
#8333 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Easy guys.
#8334 [23:34] <wendall911> xales: well I'm sorta irritated that notbody will change the goddamn channel topic
#8335 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Why should we change the topic?
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#8337 [23:34] <wendall911> xales: so it seems like you guys may mean well, but fail at actually helping
#8338 [23:34] <Temragon> (To save yourselves frustration motly..)
#8339 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> That's what the bot is for
#8340 [23:34] <xales> Temragon: Nobody actually reads it. Not one.
#8341 [23:34] <Temragon> xales: but I did :(
#8342 [23:34] <xales> They all use Mibbit and have no idea what a topic even is.
#8343 [23:34] <wendall911> xales: that's bullshit
#8344 [23:34] <xales> Well, a tiny majority, sure
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#8346 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> If you're going to disrespect us, I recommend leaving this channel.
#8347 [23:34] <Temragon> Unfortunately, the current tiny majority D:
#8348 [23:34] <wendall911> that's delusional
#8349 [23:35] <RecoJohnson> what if you run minecraft.jar -nogui what happens? :P
#8350 [23:35] <braincreation> isn't the current topic "To discuss changing the topic"
#8351 [23:35] * Temragon stops before he gets kicked too ;D
#8351 [23:35] <xales> RecoJohnson: Nothing. it doesn't do anything at all.
#8352 [23:35] <xales> it doesn't even look for that parameter
#8353 [23:35] <DopeGhoti> (it won't do any harm to adjust the topic; I only haven't because I'm actually doing the wokr for which I'm actually paid right now)
#8354 [23:36] <Tpimp> [20:33] <Paeochlo> Tpipm Log on to the website and use the play in browser link first
#8355 [23:36] <Tpimp> wat u mean
#8356 [23:36] <Tpimp> oh
#8357 [23:36] <wendall911> DopeGhoti: thank you. I wouldn't have even asked a single thing had the topic been current.
#8358 [23:36] <Tpimp> nvm , let me try it
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#8360 [23:37] <Paeochlo> um any idea what steps i should take to see the world on my server?
#8361 [23:37] <braincreation> This is more entertaining than "#!@$ my dad says" but not as much as "family guy"
#8362 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> Paeochlo: log into the server in a client?
#8363 [23:37] <xales> Paeochlo: do you have any firewall running, specifically, Zonealarm?
#8364 [23:38] <Tpimp> it doesnt work for me
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#8366 [23:38] <Tpimp> because the server i play on isnt updated
#8367 [23:38] <Tpimp> but anyway
#8368 [23:38] <Paeochlo> no i dont have zonealarm
#8369 [23:38] <Temragon> Tpimp: Then you'll just need to wait like the rest of us -_-
#8370 [23:38] <Paeochlo> tpimp sorry :(
#8371 [23:38] <braincreation> Paeochlo, what do you mean to see the world on my server
#8372 [23:38] <xales> Paeochlo: do you have any other firewall running?
#8373 [23:38] <xales> braincreation: chunks don't load when he connects
#8374 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> braincreation - Logs on, chunks don't load
#8375 [23:38] <Paeochlo> i just turned it off a few min ago trying to fix it no luck :(
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#8377 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Common problem with an overactive firewall
#8378 [23:39] <xales> Paeochlo: what was it, specifically? some of them have problems
#8379 [23:39] <xales> even when disabled
#8380 [23:39] <Paeochlo> when i log on my server i just fall along with all the animals
#8381 [23:39] <Flafee> Is anyone on a mac?
#8382 [23:39] <jimJob2010> Since downloading the new launcher, every time I try to login, I get the "cannot connect to minecraft.net" error. I can log in in the browser version, but not the launcher on my computer. And it is only since I got the new launcher
#8383 [23:39] <braincreation> it is likely they are loading but very slowly
#8384 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#8385 [23:39] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
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#8387 [23:39] <braincreation> or you have not converted the map format
#8388 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Nope, it's a firewall issue
#8389 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> I'm certain of it
#8390 [23:39] <Tpimp> http://img263.imageshack.us/f/minecraftpic.png/
#8391 [23:39] <Tpimp> theres a pic
#8392 [23:40] <Tpimp> lol dunno if u can help
#8393 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Let's see..
#8394 [23:40] <Paeochlo> i just made the server so i assume its the right format maby not
#8395 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Oh that.
#8396 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Tpimp - It's an authentication issue with the new client, everybody gets it
#8397 [23:40] <Tpimp> So.
#8398 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> Tpimp overloadeded
#8399 [23:40] <Tpimp> .
#8400 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> ??> Tpimp overloaded
#8401 [23:40] <VoxelHead> Tpimp: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#8402 [23:40] <DopeGhoti> Tpimp: play in-browser once, that'll give you the client files you need to use the standalone client 'offline'.
#8403 [23:40] <Tpimp> lol well
#8404 [23:41] <Tpimp> at first it kept saying "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#8405 [23:41] <Tpimp> so i tryed deleting everything cuz it auto re-downloads
#8406 [23:41] <Tpimp> so...
#8407 [23:41] <Temragon> The funny thing is that your question has been answered at least twice since you joined the channel.
#8408 [23:41] <Temragon> I'd feel the ops' pain if they didn't volunteer for it :p
#8409 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> We've been dealing with this since 1.3 rolled out, yesterday.
#8410 [23:42] <jimJob2010> the thing is, it has happened more than one day and it will still work on the website, just not on the client.
#8411 [23:42] <DopeGhoti> Temragon: it may not seem it, in many circles I am known for my unseemly amount of patience.
#8412 [23:42] <Tpimp> so thanks guys
#8413 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Tpimp - You're sure the client at minecraft.net, the in-browser version doesn't work for you?
#8414 [23:43] <Temragon> DopeGhoti: Hey, no doubting it, they're using up a metric fuckton of it right now :p. Just pointing out you volunteered, so the fact you're not getting paid is entirely on you ;P
#8415 [23:43] <Tpimp> it does, but the server i play on doesnt work, seeing as the plugins for the servers need to be updated
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#8417 [23:43] <DopeGhoti> Temragon: Oh, I'm getting paid; just not for this. (:
#8418 [23:43] <Tpimp> so ill try a different server
#8419 [23:43] <Tpimp> until they do
#8420 [23:43] <Temragon> DopeGhoti: Exactly :p
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#8422 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#8423 [23:44] <Temragon> Good plan!
#8424 [23:44] <DopeGhoti> Temragon: when #MineCraftHelp gets to me, I just switch irssi to another window (:
#8425 [23:44] * GreyVulpine goes off and kills more zombies on a steam game
#8425 [23:44] <Tpimp> yeah in-browser doesnt work now
#8426 [23:45] <Tpimp> wt the fuck
#8427 [23:45] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: L4D, or TKR?
#8428 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Either L4D2, or KF
#8429 [23:45] <Temragon> DopeGhoti: Also a good plan :p
#8430 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> It's good to release some steam.. on Steam.
#8431 [23:45] <DopeGhoti> heh
#8432 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Gawd that was bad
#8433 [23:47] * Temragon tries to log in with the old launcher to play on a different server - can't connect - FFFFFFUUUUUU
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#8434 [23:47] <RecoJohnson> I don't think its fair that we can't play minecraft if notch's website is
#8435 [23:47] <RecoJohnson> down..
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#8437 [23:47] <RecoJohnson> My friend disconnected because "end of stream" and now he can't rejoin...
#8438 [23:48] <Temragon> I think it sucks, but it doesn't have much to do with fair :p
#8439 [23:48] <relsqui> RecoJohnson: you can, you just can't get authorized for a multi server that requires it
#8440 [23:48] <RecoJohnson> I know. my friend can't join my MC server.
#8441 [23:48] <RecoJohnson> So lame.
#8442 [23:48] <relsqui> that said--I can't connect with the *old* launcher now, which has been working since the updat
#8443 [23:49] <RecoJohnson> I should of just torrented this game.
#8444 [23:49] <relsqui> how would that have helped? :P
#8445 [23:49] <DopeGhoti> ??>> RecoJohnson mc.net/hosting
#8446 [23:49] <relsqui> you still wouldn't be able to get authorized for multiplayer
#8447 [23:49] <Tpimp> so when r the server plugins getting updated
#8448 [23:49] <relsqui> Tpimp: ask the plugin makers
#8449 [23:49] <DopeGhoti> ??> Tpimp mods
#8450 [23:49] <VoxelHead> Tpimp: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#8451 [23:49] <VoxelHead> Tpimp: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#8452 [23:49] <Tpimp> ahh rofl
#8453 [23:50] <Tpimp> 4 alerts in 2 seconds
#8454 [23:50] <Tpimp> xD
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#8456 [23:51] * GreyVulpine bahs and fires up KF
#8456 [23:51] <DopeGhoti> (would whoever started the whole "ffffffuuuuuu" meme step forward so that I can stab you in the eye with a bowling ball?)
#8457 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> It's some silly webcomic
#8458 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> First time I saw it there
#8459 [23:51] <lyude> You know, at first I didn't mind it, because notch probably had stuff going on
#8460 [23:52] <lyude> But now it's just getting rediculous
#8461 [23:52] <relsqui> I need a sanity check: has anyone who's been trying to connect (1.3 client and server, new launcher) over and over to the new auth server eventually succeeded?
#8462 [23:52] <lyude> The minecraft login server is down, AGAIN
#8463 [23:52] <relsqui> lyude: it's getting diculous again?
#8464 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> relsqui - I haven' tbeen able to with the new launcher
#8465 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> And I've been trying on the lappy for a while
#8466 [23:52] <Temragon> relsqui: I think braincreation did
#8467 [23:52] <Temragon> relsqui: I tried for a while, haven't been able to
#8468 [23:52] <braincreation> the mc ec2 /game/ reverse proxy is down atm
#8469 [23:52] <braincreation> yeah I got in once
#8470 [23:52] <braincreation> have not been able to replicate
#8471 [23:52] <relsqui> because now the old launcher isn't connecting either
#8472 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Last time I was able to join with the new launcher was last night
#8473 [23:52] <relsqui> same
#8474 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> 24 hours since then
#8475 [23:52] <relsqui> oh yeah, I guess it did eventually work for me
#8476 [23:52] <lyude> I was able to connect today
#8477 [23:52] <Temragon> relsqui: Yeah, the old auth server went down too, sadface
#8478 [23:53] <relsqui> heh
#8479 [23:53] <relsqui> people have figured out that's how to play
#8480 [23:53] <lyude> Is there any way to bypass the damn auth server?
#8481 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#8482 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> (use the inbrowser client)
#8483 [23:54] <relsqui> oh yeah, forgot about that option
#8484 [23:54] <relsqui> it's so teeny though, I'm squinting all the time
#8485 [23:54] <braincreation> lyude, we do not talk about that here
#8486 [23:55] <Temragon> <Neuralizer> YOU DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT *censored*
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#8488 [23:55] <Temragon> DopeGhoti: http://ragethread.com/about
#8489 [23:55] <lyude> Sorry, I was just asking because I'm tired of the server always going down
#8490 [23:56] <Temragon> lyude: It's nothing personal, it's the same in all unofficial or semi-official sites and chats/boards/etc. Can't talk about anything that possibly gets the game for free or gets around rules or else they'll be shitlisted by the official company/site/etc
#8491 [23:56] <RecoJohnson> If my friend is on a lan connection does he still need the website to authenticate>
#8492 [23:56] <Temragon> RecoJohnson: Yeeeees
#8493 [23:57] <lyude> Ah, alright
#8494 [23:57] <lyude> I won't do it again then
#8495 [23:59] <relsqui> ah. there goes the old one again.
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