#1 [00:00] <aeyrep00155> hey can anyone help me with a mod for my server?
#2 [00:00] <Tpimp> meh
#3 [00:00] <Tpimp> mods r gay
#4 [00:00] <Tpimp> but /mc pwns
#5 [00:00] <Tpimp> flying :D
#6 [00:00] <aeyrep00155> do u know how to set up iconomy?
#7 [00:01] <xales> ??> aeyrep00155 mods
#8 [00:01] <VoxelHead> aeyrep00155: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#9 [00:01] <VoxelHead> aeyrep00155: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#10 [00:01] <Tpimp> is VH a bot
#11 [00:01] <Tpimp> or wha
#12 [00:01] <RF> Whois is your friend
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#14 [00:02] <Tpimp> nah
#15 [00:02] <Tpimp> it isnt
#16 [00:02] <aeyrep00155> ok ty
#17 [00:02] <Tpimp> humans r my friends, ty
#18 [00:02] <sardo97> hola
#19 [00:02] <Tpimp> yo
#20 [00:02] <sardo97> i need help
#21 [00:02] <sardo97> BADLY
#22 [00:02] <Tpimp> whit what
#23 [00:02] <Tpimp> with*
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#25 [00:02] <RF> Try calling 911 ?
#26 [00:03] <sardo97> two things, beta 1.3 wont connect and wom is giving me a gateway error
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#28 [00:03] <sardo97> 502*
#29 [00:03] <Brosofocus> is the website down for everyone?
#30 [00:03] <sardo97> know of any reason this is happening
#31 [00:03] <sardo97> idk let me check
#32 [00:03] <Tpimp> gateway error?
#33 [00:03] <Brosofocus> the website is just brining up a white page right nwo for me
#34 [00:03] <sardo97> gateway error = 502
#35 [00:04] <wendall911> auth server is down or rarely responding
#36 [00:04] <sardo97> i just connect to minecraft.net
#37 [00:04] <Brosofocus> hmm yeah that blows
#38 [00:04] <sardo97> is my name gray and have a star fo you guys?
#39 [00:04] <Brosofocus> me and a buddy were like 20 min away from finishing a baddie trap
#40 [00:04] <RF> no, your name is sardo97, and you have a mibbit hat
#41 [00:05] <sardo97> wtf?
#42 [00:05] <xales> lol
#43 [00:05] <sardo97> wtf is a mibbit hat?
#44 [00:05] <RF> It's a hat that says "mibbit"
#45 [00:05] <sardo97> well, im using limechat
#46 [00:05] <sardo97> i hate mibbit
#47 [00:05] <sardo97> oh hey xales
#48 [00:06] <sardo97> i was on the #minecraft channel and it told me to contact you to rejester
#49 [00:06] <sardo97> ...
#50 [00:06] <xales> to contact me?
#51 [00:06] <xales> no it didn't
#52 [00:06] <xales> ?? irc
#53 [00:06] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#54 [00:06] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#55 [00:06] <sardo97> oh, well nvm
#56 [00:06] <sardo97> xales know why minecraft is down?
#57 [00:07] <xales> because it's down. I don't know =/
#58 [00:07] <sardo97> ...
#59 [00:07] <Tpimp> lol
#60 [00:07] <sardo97> liked your post, helped alot
#61 [00:07] <RF> Wait, xales ISN'T an omniscient mindreader?!
#62 [00:07] <Tpimp> minecraft bein ghey
#63 [00:07] <Tpimp> wtf
#64 [00:07] <RF> I have been misinformed!
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#66 [00:07] <xales> sorry :P
#67 [00:08] <sardo97> im so bored
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#69 [00:10] <sardo97> anyone here?
#70 [00:10] <xales> nope
#71 [00:10] <RF> No
#72 [00:10] <sardo97> lul
#73 [00:10] <RF> The userlist is a lie
#74 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> This IRC channel is a lie
#75 [00:10] <sardo97> the cake is a lie
#76 [00:11] <braincreation> the cake was real
#77 [00:11] <braincreation> didn't you see the end-clip
#78 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#79 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> http://www.flickr.com/photos/20496493@N06/1994439286/
#80 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> The cake was real
#81 [00:11] <sardo97> yeah, i know
#82 [00:11] <sardo97> iv played portal 3 times
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#84 [00:16] <braincreation> old client auth appears up now
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#86 [00:17] <Umikori> Hello, I have a problem
#87 [00:17] <xales> ?? ask
#88 [00:17] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#89 [00:17] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#90 [00:17] <braincreation> does your wife know
#91 [00:17] <sardo97> Yes?
#92 [00:18] <sardo97> What do you need help with?
#93 [00:18] <braincreation> How can we be of service to you, my good person?
#94 [00:18] <Umikori> When I try to connect it says user not premium, but I payed for the game and have been playing online for a while before the patch
#95 [00:19] <sardo97> Do you have the new launcher?
#96 [00:19] <Umikori> Yes
#97 [00:19] <Umikori> I can't connect to minecraft.net
#98 [00:19] <xales> ?? overloaded
#99 [00:19] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
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#101 [00:19] <sardo97> The only way to fix that would be to downgrade to the older launcher. Untill notch makes a new patch.
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#103 [00:20] <Umikori> Often when I do connect, I go to the multiplayer and when I try to connect to the server it says "user not premium"
#104 [00:20] <sardo97> Are you playing offline?
#105 [00:20] <Umikori> What do you mean?
#106 [00:20] <braincreation> playing offline will not allow you to connect to an online server
#107 [00:20] <Umikori> Ah
#108 [00:20] <braincreation> when you click play offline when given the choice to try again
#109 [00:21] <sardo97> When you get the "cant connet to minecraft.net" error do you click "play offline"?
#110 [00:21] <braincreation> I think he gets it
#111 [00:21] <Umikori> Yes
#112 [00:21] <sardo97> Yes, thats why.
#113 [00:21] <RF> https auth is down, the old user launcher http, so use that instead
#114 [00:21] <Umikori> How do I get the older server?
#115 [00:21] <RF> it will work with the current version of the game fine
#116 [00:21] <braincreation> nott server, client
#117 [00:21] <braincreation> use the in browser one
#118 [00:21] <Umikori> sorry, that's what I meant
#119 [00:21] <RF> not client or server, launcher
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#121 [00:22] <sardo97> You need to find the old laucher. Or use the browser one.
#122 [00:22] <RF> Go get your old one out of your downloads folder
#123 [00:23] <DimSumJr> mm
#124 [00:24] <DimSumJr> how long until multi up?
#125 [00:24] <Umikori> Okay, thank you
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#127 [00:24] <braincreation> just so everyone knows, the browser jar is passed launch arguments of ""-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -Dsun.awt.noerasebackground=true -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dsun.java2d.pmoffscreen=false -Xms512M -Xmx512M"
#128 [00:24] <braincreation> so those variables are parsed for client
#129 [00:24] <braincreation> or at least could be
#130 [00:24] <sardo97> ...Wow
#131 [00:25] <ur_0wner> wow!
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#133 [00:25] <sardo97> My "In browser" doesn't Work.
#134 [00:25] <ur_0wner> i cant log onto minecraft.net at all i think i got hacked
#135 [00:25] <DimSumJr> ^
#136 [00:25] <ur_0wner> stupid /msg...
#137 [00:26] <sardo97> No, Minecraft.net Isn't Down.
#138 [00:26] <DimSumJr> its not?
#139 [00:26] <ur_0wner> who said it is?
#140 [00:26] <sardo97> Be Right Back.
#141 [00:26] <RF> Why do you think you "got hacked"
#142 [00:26] <braincreation> its not down, and old auth is working atm
#143 [00:26] <DimSumJr> 500 Servlet Exception
#144 [00:26] <RF> the HTTPS auth is down, the HTTP auth is up, use the old launcher
#145 [00:26] <DimSumJr> thats what i get
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#147 [00:27] <mib_5y3hl3> I just paid for the game but i am getting a failure to launch after logging in trying to download.
#148 [00:27] <ur_0wner> oo that time i got passed log in failed and got error!
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#150 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#151 [00:27] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#152 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> mib_5y3hl3: just bought it? Payments usually take an hour or four to process.
#153 [00:27] <ur_0wner> yea it got updated and its down right now
#154 [00:27] <ur_0wner> 4 hours is not a long time
#155 [00:30] <ur_0wner> Wake up!
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#157 [00:30] <ur_0wner> there is about 1800 people in line for support
#158 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Only 1800?
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#160 [00:31] <ur_0wner> im #1744
#161 [00:31] <ur_0wner> I'm getting Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password.
#162 [00:31] <ur_0wner> I think I got hacked
#163 [00:31] <ur_0wner> =/
#164 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Between support@mojang.com, payments@mojang.com, and the various personal mojang dev emails, there's probably something close to 100k emails
#165 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> If not more
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#167 [00:31] <RF> "hacked" ?
#168 [00:31] <ur_0wner> so im screwed...
#169 [00:31] <DopeGhoti> ur_0wner: have you cleared out and re-entered your username and password? Are you getting the same result on the site?
#170 [00:31] <Abbc> hello
#171 [00:32] <ur_0wner> yes
#172 [00:32] <DopeGhoti> ur_0wner: have you tried the PW reset tool?
#173 [00:32] <xales> Abbc: need to update video card drivers
#174 [00:32] <ur_0wner> it does nothing
#175 [00:32] <mib_5y3hl3> How many people are playing this game?
#176 [00:32] <sardo97> I'm Back.
#177 [00:32] <xales> mib_5y3hl3: http://minecraft.net/stats.jsp
#178 [00:32] <ur_0wner> It didn't send anything to my email
#179 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> ur_0wner: did you check your junp/spam folder?
#180 [00:33] <ur_0wner> yes
#181 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> Do you still have your payment confirmation?
#182 [00:33] <Abbc> i can't because this is a Intel 915gm and is a manufactured notebook
#183 [00:34] <ur_0wner> yes
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#186 [00:34] <Abbc> i can play in browser fine
#187 [00:34] <Abbc> the errors start when off line
#188 [00:34] <xales> Abbc: Beta in browser, or Classic?
#189 [00:34] <braincreation> lol, with the right tweaks my netbook can play mc, but really crapily compared to my laptop or tvpc's
#190 [00:34] <Abbc> same error
#191 [00:34] <Abbc> is classic one
#192 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> ur_0wner: email daniel@mojang.com with the details and you'll get sorted. Emails answered in the order they're received; be patient.
#193 [00:34] <Abbc> even with wom it happens the error
#194 [00:34] <xales> Abbc: http://minecraft.net/play.jsp or http://minecraft.net/game/
#195 [00:34] <ur_0wner> i already did
#196 [00:35] <Abbc> play is ok
#197 [00:35] <Abbc> i can't /game
#198 [00:35] <RF> be patient then :)
#199 [00:35] <ur_0wner> I'm about to /die
#200 [00:35] <xales> Abbc: There is really no fix, if you have the latest graphics drivers
#201 [00:35] <mib_5y3hl3> when trying to log in for the first time to download this game I am getting "Cannot Connect to minecraft" what do I need to do?
#202 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#203 [00:36] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#204 [00:36] <ur_0wner> so bored! I guess i am forced to do homework for fun
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#206 [00:36] <Abbc> and offline i can't use even WoM or minecraft beta
#207 [00:36] <mib_5y3hl3> ok, how long is the wait before I should be able to log in?
#208 [00:36] <Abbc> ok,
#209 [00:36] <xales> mib_5y3hl3: should be soon
#210 [00:36] * Abbc is checking drivers
#210 [00:36] <mib_5y3hl3> ok thanks.
#211 [00:36] <wendall911> new client is really nice
#212 [00:37] <wendall911> like the beds, also appears to have much better performance
#213 [00:37] <Brosofocus> if it would only work :(
#214 [00:37] <Brosofocus> the beds for me got all glitched up
#215 [00:37] <DopeGhoti> how so?
#216 [00:37] <ur_0wner> If you are new to minecraft, this always happens when it goes from x.x_xx to x.y_xx
#217 [00:37] <Brosofocus> when i place one, i only see half of it... and it auto comes back into my inventory
#218 [00:37] <mib_5y3hl3> I just wish I could play haha.
#219 [00:38] <braincreation> ur_0wner, check the tabs below for messages from me
#220 [00:38] <ur_0wner> ur_0wner is doing Spanish homework
#221 [00:38] <Brosofocus> irc noob question here... i did the whole auth thing for #minecraft
#222 [00:38] <RF> Bye then
#223 [00:38] <Brosofocus> but how to i relog into it now
#224 [00:39] <braincreation> for nickserv?
#225 [00:39] <sardo97> <-- Is CRAZY Sick, But NOT Too Sick For Minecraft... XD
#226 [00:39] <RF> ./ns identify <password>
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#228 [00:39] <ur_0wner> nickserv is how i lost my password...
#229 [00:40] <ur_0wner> i failed at /msg nickserv
#230 [00:40] <Abbc> and i see org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated message errors in oofline client only
#231 [00:40] <ur_0wner> and said my password which happend to be my minecraft password
#232 [00:40] <RF> oh
#233 [00:40] <mib_5y3hl3> Is the authentication server a computerized process?
#234 [00:40] <RF> THAT'S what you meant when you said you were "hacked"
#235 [00:40] <ur_0wner> yes
#236 [00:40] <ur_0wner> yes
#237 [00:40] <Abbc> browser works fine
#238 [00:41] <ur_0wner> they got on and changed my password i think
#239 [00:41] <RF> I really wish people weren't allowed to use the word "hacked" without knowing what it meant
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#241 [00:41] <mib_5y3hl3> hummm I want to play I dont guess you can give me a ETA on my authentication.
#242 [00:41] <ur_0wner> which is hacking because they got unauthorized access
#243 [00:41] <ur_0wner> nope
#244 [00:41] <mib_5y3hl3> ok thanks.
#245 [00:41] <ur_0wner> the developers are slow =/
#246 [00:41] <RF> No, it's not, that's not what that word means
#247 [00:41] <Abbc> errrr and i don't have any premium account :(
#248 [00:41] <RF> Despite how the newspapers (wrongly) use it
#249 [00:41] <ur_0wner> the word has several meanings
#250 [00:42] <ur_0wner> hacking = modding
#251 [00:42] <xales> wrong again
#252 [00:42] <ur_0wner> hacking = getting into places you shouldnt
#253 [00:42] <RF> Again, Wrong
#254 [00:42] <xales> ^
#255 [00:42] <Abbc> anybody helping?
#256 [00:42] <ur_0wner> hacking = people getting unauthorized access
#257 [00:42] <xales> Abbc: with?
#258 [00:42] <ur_0wner> and more
#259 [00:42] <RF> Just because newspapers use the word for that doesn't make it correct
#260 [00:42] <xales> ^
#261 [00:42] <Abbc> xales: ???
#262 [00:42] <xales> Abbc: anybody helping with..?
#263 [00:42] <RF> Three Strikes, Not Correct, Want to try for a fourth ?
#264 [00:42] <Abbc> xales: with the iusse
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#266 [00:43] <xales> Abbc: if the graphics card drivers are up to date, not much you can do
#267 [00:43] <Abbc> i can play in browser
#268 [00:43] <ur_0wner> acctually i am right and you dont know what you are talking about STILL
#269 [00:43] <Abbc> ok
#270 [00:43] <xales> the graphics card is fairly awful
#271 [00:43] <xales> ur_0wner: actually, you are not.
#272 [00:43] <Abbc> ok, going last
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#274 [00:43] <SinZ> Anyone got a link for old launcher
#275 [00:43] <SinZ> atleast the old launcher works
#276 [00:43] <hatch> anyone able to connect with new client ?
#277 [00:43] <RF> Hunni, You're talking to someone with decades of experience in the computer industry, who knows what words mean, YOU on the otherhand can't keep a password secure
#278 [00:44] <xales> hatch: not yet, down right now
#279 [00:44] <braincreation> if they do they won't put it here
#280 [00:44] <SinZ> wai
#281 [00:44] <SinZ> i got a copy
#282 [00:44] <RF> Please don't try to lecture me on the word "hack"
#283 [00:44] <hatch> ah, ok, so it's not just me then coo
#284 [00:44] <xales> ur_0wner: I'm willing to bet this was written before you were even born. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
#285 [00:44] <ur_0wner> i keep my password secure
#286 [00:44] <ur_0wner> the log in process with nickserv is retarted
#287 [00:44] <xales> ur_0wner: clearly not, because you got your account hacked
#288 [00:44] <xales> if you can't figure NickServ out
#289 [00:45] <xales> you probably shouldn't be using IRC
#290 [00:45] <ur_0wner> i have been a programmer for 4 years i have taken computers apart and put them back together
#291 [00:45] <RF> Which channel did you put the password in btw ?
#292 [00:45] <ur_0wner> i accidentally put a space before /msg
#293 [00:45] <RF> oh... found it
#294 [00:45] <xales> ur_0wner: wow, four years? programming? like in BASIC?
#295 [00:45] <ur_0wner> it showed the whole command to the server
#296 [00:45] <DopeGhoti> wait..
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#298 [00:45] <xales> also, "taking computers apart and putting them back together" not really hard
#299 [00:45] <braincreation> my znc puts my nickserv passes for me
#300 [00:45] <xales> ur_0wner: your own fault
#301 [00:45] <ur_0wner> i know
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#303 [00:45] <ur_0wner> basic is really old
#304 [00:45] <RF> I still use BASIC
#305 [00:45] <DopeGhoti> ur_0wner: you used the smae password for IRC identification as for.. well, _anything_?!
#306 [00:46] <ZetaRyder> I need help with my Minecraft
#307 [00:46] <RF> got my BBC B micro plugged in still :o
#308 [00:46] <ur_0wner> no
#309 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> ZetaRyder - What about it?
#310 [00:46] <xales> ??> ZetaRyder ask
#311 [00:46] <VoxelHead> ZetaRyder: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#312 [00:46] <VoxelHead> ZetaRyder: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#313 [00:47] <ZetaRyder> Alright. I just got the game yesterday from my boyfriend. He bought me a gift pass. Today I had to wipe my computer clean to get rid of viruses. I tried to download the game and I tried to log in. It says it won't connect and I tried playing offline and it says it hasn't been downloaded.
#314 [00:47] <braincreation> that's like the whole, if your unsure if the water is hot, just dunk your hand in it
#315 [00:47] <braincreation> you'll be informed
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#317 [00:47] <ur_0wner> there has been an update just about everything is down
#318 [00:48] <lemon-rev> zetaryder i dont know where you picked up virus from but can you loginto the minecraft.net site ?
#319 [00:48] <braincreation> ZetaRyder, just wait until later
#320 [00:48] <braincreation> when the main minecraft servers are resolved
#321 [00:48] <RF> The only thing down is the HTTPS Auth server. The download server is overloaded, everything else appears fine at my end
#322 [00:48] <mib_5y3hl3> Since I cannot play mindcraft let me ask this, can anyone remember Tribes 2 Build mod?
#323 [00:48] <braincreation> and it will download content on first login
#324 [00:48] <ZetaRyder> I can log into the site
#325 [00:48] <ur_0wner> most smp servers are down also
#326 [00:48] <ZetaRyder> But when I try to play the actual game outside the website, it says I didn't download the game.
#327 [00:48] <RF> You can bypass this problem by using the HTTP auth system in the old launcher, if it is in your download folder
#328 [00:48] <RF> "Most" no, "some"
#329 [00:48] <lemon-rev> ok zetaryder try playing the minecraft in the web site
#330 [00:48] <ur_0wner> mods are out of date, clients are broken, and people are stupid
#331 [00:49] <lemon-rev> or at least getting it downloaded that way zetaryder
#332 [00:49] <mib_j7xma5> All we can do is wait
#333 [00:49] <mib_5y3hl3> I tryed the old loader and it didnt work.
#334 [00:49] <ZetaRyder> Thats where I got the game from. I downloaded it from the actual website.
#335 [00:49] <RF> Plenty of servers were back online with the new version within hours, most of the rest came up today
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#337 [00:49] <lemon-rev> yes i know that
#338 [00:49] <mib_j7xma5> imma go Bye
#339 [00:49] <ur_0wner> sincraft still doesnt have some plugins working
#340 [00:49] <lemon-rev> but you can play via the acuall site
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#342 [00:49] <ZetaRyder> I'm trying that now...
#343 [00:50] <lemon-rev> k
#344 [00:50] <ur_0wner> i cant wait till modding api is released, then all plugins will be universal
#345 [00:50] <RF> Correct, But you cannot use the example of a server hosted on a dedicated box running windows, administered by a single 17 year old with no technical ability... to say "most" servers are down
#346 [00:50] <mib_5y3hl3> where can i go and look at what other people have built?
#347 [00:51] <lemon-rev> mib go and fly a kite
#348 [00:51] <RF> Crafthubs main site, Project Minecrafts mainsite, both are up
#349 [00:51] <ur_0wner> most servers are down becuase they are converting maps and plugins to the new versions
#350 [00:51] <ZetaRyder> It updated.
#351 [00:51] <mib_5y3hl3> ok thanks
#352 [00:51] <mib_5y3hl3> lemon fuck you
#353 [00:51] <DopeGhoti> ur_0wner: "most" servers are running just fine TYVM.
#354 [00:51] <ZetaRyder> And it works now. (-.-) I hate computers...
#355 [00:51] <ZetaRyder> Thank you.
#356 [00:51] <lemon-rev> lol
#357 [00:51] <braincreation> they love you
#358 [00:52] <braincreation> and crave your attention
#359 [00:52] <braincreation> don't h8
#360 [00:52] <ur_0wner> out of the 1000s of servers only some are working
#361 [00:52] <lemon-rev> so kind mib but really, go and play with another or with your self, or even put up a server your self
#362 [00:52] <braincreation> my servers are all working
#363 [00:52] <ur_0wner> of course the good main ones work they have experience
#364 [00:52] <braincreation> and 98% of my plugins are working
#365 [00:52] <braincreation> I am just waiting for a few more events to be hooked
#366 [00:52] <braincreation> for the rest
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#368 [00:53] <DopeGhoti> ur_0wner: I didn't know you had a complete survey of all minecraft servers at your disposal, Mr. "My account was hacked". that's impressive
#369 [00:53] <RF> The majority of servers with more than a half dozen regular users have updated and are running without issues. The only major one I know of down is CH
#370 [00:53] <ur_0wner> yes i know
#371 [00:53] <RF> and they have a temp server up, and run EXTREMELY high security checks to make sure nothing can be broken on their main server
#372 [00:54] <RF> well, maybe not that extreme, but significantly strong, so it's expected
#373 [00:55] <DopeGhoti> RF: my favorite feature of the new version is the whitelist, heh
#374 [00:55] <xales> ^
#375 [00:55] <RF> Definitely
#376 [00:56] <ur_0wner> what is the max amount of serial ports i can have through usb? 127?
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#378 [00:56] <RF> *twitch*
#379 [00:56] <RF> That depends on your operating system
#380 [00:57] <ur_0wner> win 7
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#383 [00:57] <xales> RF: derp
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#385 [00:57] <sardo97> Hello.
#386 [00:57] <xales> hi
#387 [00:57] <RF> pretty much yeah
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#390 [00:58] <sardo97> FML Big time.
#391 [00:58] <DopeGhoti> ur_0wner: good luck _powering_ that many ports off of your consumer motherboard's USB bus though
#392 [00:58] <trandin0> Hey guys, issues with custom server, everything is running great but... everytime we type something in chat, we get disconnected for "illegal characters in chat" any suggestions?
#393 [00:58] <DopeGhoti> trandin0: try removing all mods, for starters
#394 [00:58] <RF> Imagine how many plug sockets he'd need for powered USB hubs... it'd be a fire risk
#395 [00:58] <ur_0wner> i could use an external power source
#396 [00:58] <trandin0> No mods : /
#397 [00:59] <sardo97> Lol, I run on a 21'5" Imac. The dreams of a Mac Pro are long away..
#398 [00:59] <trandin0> we have tried deleting everything
#399 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> define 'custom server' then
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#401 [00:59] <RF> Try it out, let us know how it goes
#402 [00:59] <SteelCougar307> Hello, anyone else having login issues with the new launcher?
#403 [00:59] <ur_0wner> i need to make a driver first anyway
#404 [00:59] <trandin0> What exactly do you mean "define custom server" ?
#405 [00:59] <jassinain> hey guys anyone know where to download the old lancher
#406 [00:59] <jassinain> for osx
#407 [00:59] <ur_0wner> tjust wondering how many custom devices i could have
#408 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> 23:01 < trandin0> Hey guys, issues with custom server,
#409 [00:59] <xales> jassinain: nowhere
#410 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> what do you mean by 'custom server' exactly
#411 [00:59] <jassinain> this is BS they post a band launcher
#412 [00:59] <ur_0wner> new launcher is broken
#413 [01:00] <xales> SteelCougar307: indeed
#414 [01:00] <jassinain> and I have been unable to connect all day
#415 [01:00] <ur_0wner> they dont test anything...
#416 [01:00] <xales> jassinain: the launcher itself isn't broken, the server is having issues
#417 [01:00] * xales kicked ur_0wner from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Enough)
#418 [01:00] <sardo97> Does anyone know how to downgrade to the old launcher for macOSX?
#419 [01:00] <trandin0> Sorry my wording was off, we are hosting our own server, its custom only by what we have made built during play.
#420 [01:00] <xales> sardo97: you can't
#421 [01:00] <RF> The new launcher is not broken
#422 [01:00] <sardo97> Darn...
#423 [01:00] <RF> The HTTPS Auth server is having issues
#424 [01:00] <xales> It will be fixed soon
#425 [01:00] <jassinain> ROFL
#426 [01:00] <RF> the new launcher was tested for almost a week before official release
#427 [01:00] <SteelCougar307> xales: At least I'm not alone then :P
#428 [01:01] <jassinain> who told you it would be fixed?
#429 [01:01] <xales> jassinain: The person who fixes it.
#430 [01:01] <xales> ...
#431 [01:01] <sardo97> I know, my brother hasn't upgraded to the new launcher yet and he is playing minecraft A.T.M.
#432 [01:01] <figaro> last i checked, even the new launcher is beta
#433 [01:01] <jassinain> so the old launcher does not use https, so if they would post that at lest we could paly
#434 [01:01] <SteelCougar307> I figure it's probably the HTTPS auth server being overloaded.
#435 [01:01] <jassinain> play
#436 [01:01] <xales> jassinain: they are also asleep.
#437 [01:01] <xales> ever heard of timezones?
#438 [01:01] <RF> "post" it? get it out of your downloads folder, or did you delete it?
#439 [01:01] <SteelCougar307> Anyone have a clever idea how to redirect something like that?
#440 [01:01] <figaro> might be better to report bugs they don't know about
#441 [01:01] <jassinain> this has been broken for over 10 hours
#442 [01:02] <sardo97> Well, it's like 7 Oclock AM for notch.
#443 [01:02] <xales> jassinain: oh wow
#444 [01:02] <xales> a BETA product
#445 [01:02] <xales> broken for TEN hours?
#446 [01:02] <xales> unheard of.
#447 [01:02] <DopeGhoti> SteelCougar307: we don't talk about breaking Minecraft's authentication in here; thanks.
#448 [01:02] <SinZ> !check funkydiddykong
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#450 [01:02] <SinZ> !paid funkydiddykong
#451 [01:02] <trandin0> any idea dope? Did you receive my last message?
#452 [01:02] <xales> I'm really starting to get pissed off by the people who feel they are entitled to have a full working product, that isn't even released yet
#453 [01:02] <sardo97> All my skype friends were pm-ing me ALL day trying to get minecraft to work.
#454 [01:03] <xales> if you continue to bitch, you can leave the channel
#455 [01:03] <xales> simple enough
#456 [01:03] <jassinain> so if the fix is as easy as posting a older version of the launcher then yes it is unacceptable .. xales
#457 [01:03] <xales> jassinain: how would you like them to post it? become magical and post it in their sleep?
#458 [01:03] <DopeGhoti> trandin0: Not sure why that sould be happening, unless people are §p2mm¡ng ŭñi¢°də or something.
#459 [01:03] <ur_0wner> they did it because ppl were bugging them for updates
#460 [01:03] <jassinain> they all sleep over 10 ous?
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#462 [01:04] <jassinain> hours
#463 [01:04] <xales> jassinain: most normal people do
#464 [01:04] <SteelCougar307> DopeGhoti: Err, sorry, I didn't mean it like that. Surely the old launcher doesn't use HTTPS, correct? No way to point the new launcher to the HTTP version?
#465 [01:04] <AndrewPH> jassinain, Instead of being a smartass, how about you be patient.
#466 [01:04] <RF> Get it out of your download folder
#467 [01:04] <jassinain> not being a smart ass
#468 [01:04] <DopeGhoti> SteelCougar307: sadly, no, the new launcher is strictly HTTPD
#469 [01:04] <xales> SteelCougar307: unfortunately, it's not possible
#470 [01:04] <DopeGhoti> er, s/D/S/
#471 [01:04] <ur_0wner> test it first and then realize oh it doesnt work lets not "update" it
#472 [01:04] <xales> jassinain: if you need help with something, please state it. if you are just here to complain, you can leave immediately
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#474 [01:04] <RF> If you replaced it, use the windows "Previous Version" to evert it
#475 [01:04] <jassinain> go fuck yourself
#476 [01:04] <RF> revert*
#477 [01:04] <AndrewPH> The launcher works - the auth server doesn't
#478 [01:04] <jassinain> there now you can kick me
#479 [01:04] <AndrewPH> jassinain, bye
#480 [01:04] <DopeGhoti> ur_0wner: the new launcher was in open testing for a _week_. what more do you want?
#481 [01:04] * xales kicked ur_0wner from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I said, enough with the bitching. If you need help, that's one thing. If you are here to complain, leave)
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#484 [01:05] <trandin0> Well I just sent the server (with our current world folder) over to another computer, that is when the issues with the disconnecting started. I have played on the server for the past 2 days with no issue, until I moved it, could it be missing files?
#485 [01:05] <xales> fucking laggy
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#488 [01:05] <sardo97> I'm Bored
#489 [01:05] <ur_0wner> fight the power! (I love making people mad btw, especially RF lol.)
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#491 [01:05] <mib_hr79w7> is the server down
#492 [01:06] <xales> for fucks sake
#493 [01:06] <mib_hr79w7> cause i cant log in
#494 [01:06] <sardo97> Minecraft.net?
#495 [01:06] <RF> ^.- I don't think that boy knows what "mad" means
#496 [01:06] <figaro> wow, great fix, found the old launcer in my downloads folder and it works
#497 [01:06] <xales> mib_hr79w7: correct, the auth server is down
#498 [01:06] <xales> you can play by going to minecraft.net though
#499 [01:06] <AndrewPH> JOIN #minecrafthelp; PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp FIGHT DA POWA I SO REBEL!!!!; PART #minecrafthelp
#500 [01:06] <xales> AndrewPH: he was mad
#501 [01:06] <xales> anyway
#502 [01:06] <xales> fuck the haters
#503 [01:06] <xales> if people are behaving like that
#504 [01:06] <mib_hr79w7> i cant play in browser
#505 [01:06] <xales> they don't belong here
#506 [01:06] <AndrewPH> haters gonna not know what goes into shit
#507 [01:06] <AndrewPH> and also hate
#508 [01:07] <DopeGhoti> Yay, my $15 32GB USB stick came in! Now I get to find out why it was so cheap!
#509 [01:07] <xales> mib_hr79w7: why can't you?
#510 [01:07] <sardo97> Dope, thats a GREAT deal.
#511 [01:07] <AndrewPH> DopeGhoti, *zelda music* You got a roooock!
#512 [01:07] <mib_hr79w7> the multiplayer server is only 1.2 so i cant access it
#513 [01:07] <mib_hr79w7> well my multiplayer server at least
#514 [01:08] <DopeGhoti> Writes pretty slow, but it reads quite well.
#515 [01:08] <xales> mib_hr79w7: then you need to wait for it to be updated, or update it if you run it
#516 [01:08] <mib_hr79w7> i can downgrade
#517 [01:08] <sardo97> I wonder if there is a irc client for the ios devices...
#518 [01:08] <xales> sardo97: not good ones
#519 [01:08] <trandin0> So no one has any idea why I am getting "Illegal Characters In Chat" and being kicked from my own server everytime I chat?
#520 [01:08] <sardo97> ...
#521 [01:08] <DopeGhoti> trandin0: Not sure why that sould be happening, unless people are §p2mm¡ng ŭñi¢°də or something.
#522 [01:08] <mib_hr79w7> but if auth server is down then i must wait tell back up
#523 [01:08] <blinky> .
#524 [01:08] <DopeGhoti> (sorry for repost, not sure if that got missed in the flood)
#525 [01:09] <sardo97> i have a ipad and im sick so im should be on the computer... i could use my ipad to view this irc
#526 [01:09] <trandin0> Okay, I don't think that is the case.
#527 [01:09] <GLaDOS> lets go #minecraft
#528 [01:09] <xales> mib_hr79w7: you can use minecraft.net to get on, but the server must be updated for you to play
#529 [01:09] <trandin0> Thanks for the assistance though DopeGhoti!
#530 [01:09] <mib_hr79w7> anyone know when auth server will be up
#531 [01:09] <xales> mib_hr79w7: soon
#532 [01:09] <sardo97> holy cow!!! i just realized i can type really fast and not look at my keybored!!! {ACHIVEMENT UNLOCKED: NOOB}
#533 [01:09] <xales> mib_hr79w7: the auth server won't fix the "out of date" error
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#535 [01:09] <mib_hr79w7> okay
#536 [01:10] <mib_hr79w7> i can stil downgrade to get 1.2
#537 [01:10] <xales> that is something that must be fixed by the person running the server
#538 [01:10] <mib_hr79w7> then i play
#539 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> sardo97: Now try New Game+: Dvorak key layout
#540 [01:10] <xales> you can't do it legally
#541 [01:10] <sardo97> Game+
#542 [01:10] <sardo97> wtf....
#543 [01:10] <alves1987> mib_hr79w7: did you say you have a mac?
#544 [01:10] <sardo97> that didn't do anything
#545 [01:10] <mib_hr79w7> well untill they upgrade i will
#546 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> *facepalm*
#547 [01:10] <mib_hr79w7> not a mac
#548 [01:10] <alves1987> who did?
#549 [01:11] <sardo97> I have a mac.
#550 [01:11] <alves1987> you can get on fine in-browser?
#551 [01:11] <braincreation> auth server appears up
#552 [01:11] <sardo97> no, it wont load for me
#553 [01:11] <braincreation> for both
#554 [01:11] <alves1987> for the past hour ive been watching this chatroom while playing
#555 [01:11] <sardo97> and i restarted my brower and computer and it still doesnt work
#556 [01:11] <sardo97> LOL
#557 [01:11] <braincreation> and now https is down again
#558 [01:12] <alves1987> im using safari, wont load on firefox, but give safari a chance and it should work
#559 [01:12] <sardo97> Well, i have been looking on newegg for some ram for my compuetr
#560 [01:12] <sardo97> computer*
#561 [01:12] <alves1987> whats your ram?
#562 [01:12] <sardo97> 4GB
#563 [01:12] <alves1987> same here
#564 [01:13] <alves1987> hell, i can run minecraft on my hackintoshed netbook in-browser fine
#565 [01:13] <alves1987> but that was then
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#567 [01:13] <alves1987> are you using safari? i didnt ask
#568 [01:13] <zrbecker> alves1987, what netbook you using?
#569 [01:13] <sardo97> I NEED 8gb because i'm running videoediting and photo editing...
#570 [01:13] <alves1987> dell vostro a90, same as mini 9
#571 [01:13] <alves1987> why do you need to run those now?
#572 [01:14] <alves1987> i mean, it should affect safari all that much, as long as youre not compressing
#573 [01:14] <sardo97> Yes, i tried safari and firefox and chrome
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#575 [01:14] <DopeGhoti> ??> sardo97 mac/profile
#576 [01:14] <VoxelHead> sardo97: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#577 [01:14] <Quetzen> Halp
#578 [01:14] <VoxelHead> sardo97: (mac/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#579 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> ??> Quetzen ask
#580 [01:15] <VoxelHead> Quetzen: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#581 [01:15] <alves1987> how many times do you get the prompt to run java when trying to get on through safari?
#582 [01:15] <VoxelHead> Quetzen: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#583 [01:15] <sardo97> Wait what????
#584 [01:15] <Quetzen> Erh I can't log in! It just wants me to play offline for some reason.
#585 [01:15] <sardo97> my brain hurts..........
#586 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> ??> Quetzen overloaded
#587 [01:15] <Quetzen> I know. Was just poking up
#588 [01:15] <VoxelHead> Quetzen: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#589 [01:15] <sardo97> brb
#590 [01:15] <Quetzen> I can do that?
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#592 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> Quetzen: you can.
#593 [01:16] <alves1987> sardo97: when you try to run minecraft on safari, are you prompted to run java?
#594 [01:16] <alves1987> oh good, he brb'd
#595 [01:16] <Quetzen> Handy then. Tank you.
#596 [01:17] <alves1987> zrbecker: why interested in the model of netbook?
#597 [01:18] <zrbecker> alves1987, was thinking about grabbing something cheap to turn into a hackintosh.
#598 [01:18] <alves1987> if you need something that gets the job done and runs mc adequately, i recommend it
#599 [01:18] <alves1987> its also vert compatible with osx
#600 [01:18] <alves1987> very*
#601 [01:19] <alves1987> i hope this isnt too off-topic for this chat
#602 [01:19] <DopeGhoti> alves1987: so long as it's not interfering with help
#603 [01:19] <zrbecker> nice, i might check it out.
#604 [01:20] <DopeGhoti> though I have to say, for the price that a Macbook Air is, it's almost not worth dealing with making a Hackintosh netbook (:
#605 [01:20] <zrbecker> They are still $1000 right?
#606 [01:20] <alves1987> that depends of who youre talking too
#607 [01:21] <zrbecker> I am a poor student. =)
#608 [01:21] <alves1987> im too broke for a macbook air, for that price i could get a nice 16GB core 2 quad system
#609 [01:21] <zrbecker> I actually have a macbook, I just like tinkering though.
#610 [01:21] <alves1987> actually selling my pre-unibody macbook air to fund such a system
#611 [01:21] <DopeGhoti> zrbecker: apple student discount? (:
#612 [01:22] <DopeGhoti> (there's also the whole "not skirting the OSX license" thing)
#613 [01:22] <sardo97> man... im so pissed!
#614 [01:22] <zrbecker> well anyone can get that, they don't really check at least not last time i bought from the apple store. Still not much of a discount. Probably $50
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#616 [01:22] <alves1987> skirting?
#617 [01:23] <DopeGhoti> alves1987: the license states you're only authorized to install it on apple-blessed hardware
#618 [01:23] <sardo97> i had to stay home today because im sick...... so i missed a cow eye disection is science!!!!1 im mad!!!!!!!!!
#619 [01:23] <DopeGhoti> the enforcability of a post-purchase license is up for debate
#620 [01:24] <alves1987> right, but unless youre PsyStar that doesnt scare people much
#621 [01:24] <alves1987> rip
#622 [01:24] <sardo97> I can't wait until OSXLion come out!!!!!!!!!!
#623 [01:25] <alves1987> in any case, i wouldnt hacktosh a <$800 system
#624 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> PsyStar is just the last in a long line of C&D'd apple clones. Franklin, Laser: you will be missed.
#625 [01:25] <sardo97> http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/
#626 [01:25] <alves1987> :)
#627 [01:25] <sardo97> TeeHee
#628 [01:26] <alves1987> unrelated link? sardo, did you read my question?
#629 [01:26] <sardo97> No...
#630 [01:26] <zrbecker> I hope that ipad desktop icon thing is turn offable
#631 [01:26] <alves1987> hen you try to run minecraft on safari, are you prompted to run java?
#632 [01:26] <alves1987> when*
#633 [01:27] <sardo97> I know one thing that pc dont have over macs
#634 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> Excellent power management?
#635 [01:27] <zrbecker> an apple on the back of them?
#636 [01:27] <alves1987> MAGNET PLUGS
#637 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> A POSIX OS?
#638 [01:27] <zrbecker> oh yeah that has actually saved me a bunch of times at star bucks.
#639 [01:28] <sardo97> Dope, yes. and a built in APP store with over 2k apps for macOSX already
#640 [01:28] <xales> DopeGhoti: KDE4 uses more battery than OSX
#641 [01:28] <alves1987> oh, yeah, i guess...
#642 [01:28] <xales> significantly more
#643 [01:28] <zrbecker> app store is meh
#644 [01:28] <DopeGhoti> xales: I'm not surprices
#645 [01:28] <sardo97> no, app store is meh-tacular!
#646 [01:28] <alves1987> kde4 looks amazing though
#647 [01:28] <DopeGhoti> er, surprised. Who brought up KDE anyhow?
#648 [01:28] <xales> DopeGhoti: slashme
#649 [01:28] <zrbecker> kde4 is nice, the applications it runs are ugly. lol.
#650 [01:29] <DopeGhoti> macports > app store (:
#651 [01:29] <zrbecker> ^
#652 [01:29] <DopeGhoti> KDE4 is arguably pretty, but it's not functional at all
#653 [01:29] <zrbecker> ^^^
#654 [01:29] <zrbecker> lol
#655 [01:29] <sardo97> what is kde4
#656 [01:29] <sardo97> ?
#657 [01:29] <alves1987> you just made me realize i switched my less/greater than
#658 [01:29] <DopeGhoti> "My WM is 'getty'."
#659 [01:29] <braincreation> a linux window manager
#660 [01:29] <braincreation> i like getty
#661 [01:30] <braincreation> nice and simple
#662 [01:30] <DopeGhoti> well, more accurately, screen (:
#663 [01:30] <xales> DopeGhoti: joking, or do you actually not run X?
#664 [01:31] <zrbecker> xmonad or ion
#665 [01:31] <braincreation> usually no
#666 [01:31] <braincreation> on servers
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#668 [01:32] <braincreation> I still like the screen cmd
#669 [01:32] <braincreation> but when I work on aix and other posix
#670 [01:32] <braincreation> I am forced to use getty
#671 [01:33] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, LOL KDE looks like KDE...
#672 [01:33] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, I'm still a Gnome fan
#673 [01:33] <braincreation> i like gnome
#674 [01:33] <alves1987> GNOME!
#675 [01:33] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, the smooth Gnome, not the big ugly button style Gnome
#676 [01:33] <braincreation> except it has been getting more and more dumbed down
#677 [01:33] <braincreation> removing customizations
#678 [01:33] <nevercast> Yeah that's what I hate
#679 [01:33] <braincreation> but it still is one of my fav other than that
#680 [01:33] <zrbecker> I use Gnome mostly, but I hate it when it rearanges all my bars when I change resolution.
#681 [01:33] <braincreation> only due to current performance
#682 [01:33] <braincreation> but icewm
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#684 [01:33] <nevercast> zrbecker, lol what?
#685 [01:34] <braincreation> is what I like on my old old systems
#686 [01:34] <zrbecker> heh one sec, ill see if i can reporduce it and screenshot
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#688 [01:35] <sardo97> i hate that i cant charge and sync my ipad at the sametime
#689 [01:35] <sardo97> ....
#690 [01:35] <braincreation> then give it to me
#691 [01:35] <sardo97> Nope
#692 [01:35] <alves1987> wut?
#693 [01:35] <braincreation> then you will not have to worry abou tit
#694 [01:36] <nevercast> sardo97, Ipads are for MacTards :D
#695 [01:36] <sardo97> I cant wait till next week
#696 [01:36] <nevercast> lol.
#697 [01:36] <sardo97> Because the ipad2 is coming out
#698 [01:36] <zrbecker> nevercast, I guess they are called panels. But sometimes when I change resolution the icons on them move around.
#699 [01:36] <sardo97> well, there are having a keynotw
#700 [01:36] <alves1987> i use my ipad to hold my other cheeseboards
#701 [01:36] <zrbecker> Almost as if they didn't get the memo that the res changed.
#702 [01:36] <braincreation> never had that issue here
#703 [01:36] <nevercast> zrbecker, what application is that
#704 [01:36] <zrbecker> gnome
#705 [01:36] <nevercast> yeah nor I
#706 [01:36] <sardo97> on march SECOND with a picture of a ipad so im preaty sure the new ipad 2 is coming out
#707 [01:36] <braincreation> wait is for games that change resolution
#708 [01:36] <nevercast> zrbecker, Gnome isn't an application
#709 [01:36] <braincreation> for fullscreen
#710 [01:37] <braincreation> or change res using other methods
#711 [01:37] <nevercast> zrbecker, Gnome is a Desktop Environment
#712 [01:37] <nevercast> Shit broken like that is most certainly an application problem
#713 [01:37] <zrbecker> bleh your the one who said application i just rolled with it.
#714 [01:38] <braincreation> i am out for night
#715 [01:38] <braincreation> nn
#716 [01:38] <nevercast> zrbecker, well I'm pretty sure Gnome wouldn't do that
#717 [01:38] <nevercast> Applications in gnome might
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#719 [01:39] <braincreation> zrbecker, right click your icons in your panels and use locking
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#721 [01:40] <zrbecker> yeah it usually all is locked, I know because I usually have to unlock to fix it. Its the workspace switcher, trash can icon on the bottom panel and the clock, logout stuff, etc, on the top panel.
#722 [01:40] <zrbecker> I can't reproduce it right now anyway. Usually happens when its a fresh install though. After I fix it enough times it stops.
#723 [01:43] <sardo97> i keep getting spam email for 'male enhancment' wtf does that mean/
#724 [01:43] <sardo97> ?
#725 [01:43] <zrbecker> it makes you better
#726 [01:43] <sardo97> at what? i don't get it im 1
#727 [01:43] <sardo97> 13*
#728 [01:43] <xales> lol
#729 [01:44] <sardo97> What... don't make fun of me
#730 [01:44] <nevercast> LOL
#731 [01:44] <xales> all I'll say, is it's stuff like "get a bigger penis"!
#732 [01:44] <sardo97> You were all 13 once too you know
#733 [01:44] <sardo97> ....um
#734 [01:44] <nevercast> sardo97, yes but I don't think I was a naive 13 year old
#735 [01:44] <sardo97> what???
#736 [01:45] <sardo97> Native 13 year old?
#737 [01:45] <nevercast> uhh no
#738 [01:45] <nevercast> Although in the sense of Native
#739 [01:45] <nevercast> I was writing Audio Disc Media Players in Dos at 13
#740 [01:45] <nevercast> is that Native?
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#742 [01:45] <sardo97> Holy COW!
#743 [01:45] <alves1987> facepalm
#744 [01:45] <sardo97> What?
#745 [01:45] <zrbecker> I am a native 26 year old.
#746 [01:45] <nevercast> alves1987, how old are you meant to be.. 23? :P
#747 [01:46] <alves1987> exactly...
#748 [01:46] <nevercast> Ahh
#749 [01:46] <alves1987> i feel like that wasnt luck
#750 [01:46] <alves1987> STOP IT
#751 [01:46] <nevercast> :D
#752 [01:46] <nevercast> well considering your obvious birthdate is in your nick..
#753 [01:47] <alves1987> OMG Im blown!
#754 [01:47] <zrbecker> haks
#755 [01:47] <nevercast> alves1987, was she good?
#756 [01:47] <alves1987> whoeverdo you mean?
#757 [01:47] <nevercast> you got blown, congrats
#758 [01:48] <nevercast> I'm making sexual induendo... alves
#759 [01:48] <alves1987> its been some time
#760 [01:48] <DopeGhoti> xales: since you ask, I do run GNOME, but one monitor has a browser or Minecraft, and the other has Terminator with several screens in it
#761 [01:48] <alves1987> im 23, college was another day
#762 [01:48] <nevercast> Haha, know the feeling
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#764 [01:48] <xales> DopeGhoti: Terminator? link me
#765 [01:48] <nevercast> My college currently does not exist
#766 [01:49] <nevercast> It fell over or smth
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#768 [01:49] <DopeGhoti> xales: http://www.tenshu.net/terminator/
#769 [01:49] <DopeGhoti> silly example: http://www.tenshu.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/terminator-mad.png
#770 [01:49] <alves1987> not like i dont have a gf, but she found out that such acts requires at least ten stops to victoria's secret before she feels sexy enough for blowies
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#772 [01:49] <sardo97> how did you put a picture?
#773 [01:50] <DopeGhoti> alves1987: you might have better luck if you stopped using terms like 'blowies'.
#774 [01:50] <nevercast> LOL
#775 [01:50] <alves1987> i dont think ive ever used that word until just now
#776 [01:50] <xales> DopeGhoti: /me likes
#777 [01:50] <DopeGhoti> xales: it's pretty awesome, and also supports multiple tabs, a la gnome-terminal
#778 [01:51] <alves1987> being poor and jobless changes a man
#779 [01:51] <DopeGhoti> oh, also, I run tilda at all times.
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#781 [01:51] <sardo97> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG9SPywEGm4
#782 [01:51] <Sooi11> Is Minecraft down?
#783 [01:51] <nevercast> !isdown minecraft.net
#784 [01:51] <nevercast> no
#785 [01:51] <GreyBot> nevercast: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#786 [01:51] <sardo97> Yes.........
#787 [01:51] <DopeGhoti> xales: if you don't run tilda, try it, bind it to leftalt-~, and you'll wonder how you ever got by without it
#788 [01:52] <xales> DopeGhoti: I've heard of it, will look into
#789 [01:52] <DopeGhoti> xales: instant terminal-at-a keypress.
#790 [01:52] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Why are we using the Tilde key?
#791 [01:52] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: Quake.
#792 [01:52] <zrbecker> quake
#793 [01:52] <nevercast> oh!
#794 [01:52] <Sooi11> Its says Not Downloaded
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#796 [01:53] <nevercast> People joining.. which means It's my time to AFK
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#798 [01:53] <xales> Sooi11: What says that?
#799 [01:53] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#800 [01:53] <Sooi11> When i try to login on the launcher
#801 [01:54] <xales> Sooi11: 'not downloaded' isn't a normal error - I've actually never seen it before
#802 [01:54] <DopeGhoti> Sooi11: is that the exact error message, in full?
#803 [01:54] <Sooi11> But its Can't connect to minecraft.net and under Play ofline theres (Not downloaded)
#804 [01:54] <DopeGhoti> ah
#805 [01:55] <DopeGhoti> ??> Sooi11 overloaded
#806 [01:55] <VoxelHead> Sooi11: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#807 [01:55] <zrbecker> Sooi11, you on a mac?
#808 [01:55] <ferdinand> if he redownloads the client it fixes the problem
#809 [01:55] <DopeGhoti> once you've played in-browser, the client will work for offline play
#810 [01:55] <sardo97> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RF4qwSmMP4&feature=related LOL
#811 [01:55] <Sooi11> Im not on mac
#812 [01:55] <nevercast> zrbecker, mac error was fixed :)
#813 [01:56] * DopeGhoti gestures four lines up and waits for results.
#813 [01:56] <zrbecker> I had the same issue he was having. What DopGhoti suggested worked for me tho.
#814 [01:56] <Sooi11> And does someone know why people cant join my server
#815 [01:56] <xales> Sooi11: What error do they get?
#816 [01:56] <sardo97> anyone know why the wom client is getting a 502 error for the list?
#817 [01:56] * DopeGhoti goes to get lunch from Jack-in-the-Whatever
#817 [01:57] <DopeGhoti> sardo97: custom clients are not supported here.
#818 [01:57] <sardo97> ok...
#819 [01:57] <Sooi11> @xales no error for other people its just like it doesnt exist
#820 [01:57] <Sooi11> And thx i can now play oflline
#821 [01:57] <Sooi11> and multiplayer is because of overloaded?
#822 [01:57] <xales> Sooi11: What do you mean "doesn't exist"? How are they trying to connect to it, and what happens?
#823 [01:57] <xales> yes
#824 [01:58] <Sooi11> Hamachi and an ip
#825 [01:58] <xales> ah, that is why
#826 [01:58] <xales> Hamachi no longer works
#827 [01:58] <xales> ?? fubar/hamachi
#828 [01:58] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#829 [01:58] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#830 [01:59] <Sooi11> :o
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#832 [01:59] <Sooi11> Well it still works i can join my friends server
#833 [01:59] <Sooi11> with hamachi
#834 [02:00] <Sooi11> But is there a reason why it doesnt work with my normal ip
#835 [02:00] <AG_Scott> Hamachi is gonna be so screwed.
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#838 [02:00] <AG_Scott> 5.0.0.0/8 was recently allocated to an RIR.
#839 [02:00] <nevercast> AG_Scott, How is that a problem? lol.
#840 [02:01] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Hamach is a VPN, and isn't connected to the WAN
#841 [02:01] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Meaning I can enable my Hamachi Interface when VLan'ing
#842 [02:01] <AG_Scott> You won't be able to access any of those IPs on the WAN if you're running hamachi
#843 [02:01] <nevercast> AG_Scott, and disable it when I wanna access those extra ip's
#844 [02:01] <nevercast> It's not Hamachi that blocks you, just the interface.. due to routing
#845 [02:02] <nevercast> Hell you don't even have to disable the interface if you know how to adjust routing tables
#846 [02:02] <AG_Scott> Having to start and stop software to be able to access a large portion of the internet doesn't sound very usable to me.
#847 [02:02] <xales> Sooi11: Did you port forward?
#848 [02:02] <xales> you need to do that for it to work with the normal external IP
#849 [02:02] <nevercast> Start and stop? like I said you can just change your routing table
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#851 [02:02] <nevercast> Bash Script would go a long way
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#853 [02:02] <Temragon> AG_Scott: What rir got it, and why do we care?
#854 [02:02] <nevercast> or Batch with the windows type
#855 [02:02] <nevercast> Temragon, touche
#856 [02:02] <AG_Scott> Dun know which RIR.
#857 [02:02] <Temragon> (why do we care if we can't access those IPs*)
#858 [02:02] <xales> nevercast: that would work fine for someone who knew what they were doing
#859 [02:03] <xales> but most people use Hamachi because they can't port forward
#860 [02:03] <leiger> Hey everyone. Just bought Minecraft and have a few questions
#861 [02:03] <xales> leiger: go ahead and ask
#862 [02:03] <sardo97> Go ahead and ask away!
#863 [02:03] <nevercast> xales, and if they don't.. that's not our problem and they probably don't care.. they just want a vlan
#864 [02:03] <AG_Scott> All IP unallocated IP space was recently allocated.
#865 [02:03] <AG_Scott> It's a problem because a large portion of the internet just goes missing.
#866 [02:03] <leiger> Paid with Paypal, and downloaded the windows minecraft.exe file, but when attempting to log in I get the message "can't connect to minecraft.net" - does this mean the server is currently down ?
#867 [02:03] <nevercast> AG_Scott, A large portion that has been recently allocated
#868 [02:04] <AG_Scott> as xales if you can't portforward it's unlikely you know how to modify routing tables
#869 [02:04] <nevercast> AG_Scott, So it probably has nothing interesting on it
#870 [02:04] <sardo97> Yes, Minecraft has been having problems latley...
#871 [02:04] <AG_Scott> as xales said*
#872 [02:04] <xales> leiger: correct - the server is down right now, but you can play offline (you need to play at http://minecraft.net/game/ once before you can play offline)
#873 [02:04] <nevercast> AG_Scott, But those that can't port forward, don't care if that part of the net goes missing.
#874 [02:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> leiger overloaded
#875 [02:04] <VoxelHead> leiger: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#876 [02:04] <AG_Scott> This is a waste of my time. :>
#877 [02:04] <leiger> Okay, thanks xales, will try that. The play offline button says "(not downloaded)" below it, so I'l try that link first.
#878 [02:04] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Those that understand routing, and actually give a toss about the missing address space.. can do something about it
#879 [02:04] <nevercast> My point is
#880 [02:04] <nevercast> Hamachi is still a great idea
#881 [02:05] <sardo97> Leiger, wait at MAX of one day for minecraft to be working.
#882 [02:05] <nevercast> no need to beat it out of the Script Kiddies because it's allocated ip's in the WAN
#883 [02:05] <leiger> Ok sardo
#884 [02:05] <nevercast> It's probably just for Chinese cell phones anyway
#885 [02:05] <DopeGhoti> Hamachi would be a tolerable idea if it used a chunk of 10. which is _MEANT_ for private LAN/WAN networking
#886 [02:05] <DopeGhoti> rather than squatting on address space that it had no right to
#887 [02:05] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, That's no good either, most of DSLs routers use the 10.0.0.0 address space
#888 [02:05] <DopeGhoti> "most DSL routers" eh?
#889 [02:05] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, meaning that when they have a home router, they get either their Lan, or Hamachi..
#890 [02:06] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, 90% of the DSL routers in Australia and New Zealand.. yes
#891 [02:06] <nevercast> Err
#892 [02:06] <nevercast> Dlink
#893 [02:06] <nevercast> not DSL
#894 [02:06] <DopeGhoti> you know what's even better than Hamachi? Setting up your own damn VMP
#895 [02:06] <nevercast> my mistake
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#897 [02:06] <DopeGhoti> VPN rather
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#899 [02:06] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, VPN, requires port forwarding knowledge again.. which is why we are using a managed vpn
#900 [02:06] <Mine_Builder> This is convenient
#901 [02:07] <Mine_Builder> Where could I find a tutorial on how to set up a private cmp server on a debian 64 bit server box? Things such as giving it an ip, making it private, giving it a server name, installing add ons etc.
#902 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> SMP server you mean?
#903 [02:07] <DopeGhoti> Regarless, Hamachi is broken, and breaks actual internet IPs. Kindly don't advise people to use it in #MineCraftHelp.
#904 [02:07] <Mine_Builder> CMP
#905 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> CMP?
#906 [02:07] <xales> creative
#907 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> creative?
#908 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#909 [02:07] <Trismegustis> Oh.
#910 [02:07] <Mine_Builder> yeah
#911 [02:07] <Mine_Builder> :P
#912 [02:07] <Trismegustis> I was thinking it was like Mortal Kombat
#913 [02:07] <Trismegustis> Survival with a C
#914 [02:07] <xales> what do you mean "giving it an ip"?
#915 [02:07] <leiger> Thanks xales, I can now play offline! Hopefully servers are back online soon, but this will keep me occupied for now... :)
#916 [02:07] <DopeGhoti> leiger: have fun!
#917 [02:07] <xales> ^
#918 [02:08] <leiger> :)
#919 [02:08] <sardo97> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5DT2mmgR2I&feature=related
#920 [02:08] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Since your an op I wont speak of it in #minecrafthelp. But I still stand by my opinion.
#921 [02:08] <Mine_Builder> I know very little about minecraft or setting up servers so basically just having an ip that people can put in say, a wom client and connect to the server
#922 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Mine_Builder - We can point you to the official creative server here
#923 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#924 [02:08] <nipper> Is there any idea when the laucher login will work? I'm tired of using my broswer.
#925 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> We can also point you to custom modded creative servers ehre
#926 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Custom_server_list
#927 [02:08] <nipper> lol GreyVulpine wish I could get mcdominion on that list.
#928 [02:08] <xales> nipper: soon, it's early morning in Sweden
#929 [02:08] <Coll> is the login servers down?
#930 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> It's up to you which one you want to use Mine_Builder
#931 [02:08] <nipper> it is for laucher
#932 [02:08] <nevercast> Yes Coll
#933 [02:09] <Coll> any reason why?
#934 [02:09] <nipper> you can use the site it works fine.
#935 [02:09] <nevercast> Do people still have the old launchers? lol.
#936 [02:09] <nevercast> They can just use that
#937 [02:09] <nipper> I have the old one have not tryed it yet.
#938 [02:09] <nevercast> nipper, try it
#939 [02:09] <Sooi11> Can someone try to join my server?
#940 [02:09] <Trismegustis> It does work, alleged
#941 [02:09] <nipper> going to.
#942 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Sooi11 - Sure, IP?
#943 [02:09] <leiger> I'm using Beta 1.3_01 <- is that an old launcher or the newest one ?
#944 [02:09] <Coll> why is the login server now?
#945 [02:09] <Sooi11> 192.168.0.194
#946 [02:09] <Mine_Builder> GreyVulpine, I think you misunderstood, I'm going to be hosting a server off a server box, I'm not looking for a server to join
#947 [02:09] <Coll> *down
#948 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> That's not a public IP Sooi11
#949 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Try again
#950 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Mine_Builder - I didn't misunderstand at all
#951 [02:10] <nipper> Lol the old one works.
#952 [02:10] <Sooi11> well how do i get one?
#953 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> The official creative minecraft server is there at the mp link
#954 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Top of the page
#955 [02:10] <xales> Sooi11: http://whatismyip.org/
#956 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Custom, modded servers are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Custom_server_list
#957 [02:10] <xales> you need to port forward or that IP won't work
#958 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Let us know how you want to proceed
#959 [02:11] <Sooi11> But i dont understand port forwarding
#960 [02:11] <ferdinand> GreyVulpine he wants to make his own
#961 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - I understand that
#962 [02:11] <xales> Sooi11: What part don't you understand?
#963 [02:11] <Mine_Builder> I see, I have that software installed on the box already but when I go to make the server will it ask me what I want to name the server, whether I want it to appear on the public server list, and what the ip is?
#964 [02:11] <nipper> The old laucher lets me login. So if anyone wants it I will upload it to my site.
#965 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Mine_Builder - What software?
#966 [02:12] <Mine_Builder> The server software
#967 [02:12] <Sooi11> But do i need to download something fril the costum server list?
#968 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> From...
#969 [02:12] <Sooi11> *from
#970 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Sooi11 - No
#971 [02:12] <Sooi11> e_o?
#972 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that link was for Mine_Builder
#973 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Not you
#974 [02:13] <Mine_Builder> oh I see here
#975 [02:13] <Sooi11> so how do i make a server, Download The Minecraft_server.exe then what ip do i put in
#976 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Sooi11 - Think of it this way. You are behind a router, which interprets the one public IP address that your ISP gives you, and translates it to multiple private ip addresses, so that you can share within your house
#977 [02:13] <xales> Sooi11: put in to connect to it?
#978 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> You need to tell your router, which computer to forward requests for a server to go to.
#979 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> That's port forwarding
#980 [02:13] <Sooi11> Yeah i tried port forwarding
#981 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> In a nutshell
#982 [02:13] <Sooi11> but uuh how
#983 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> You 'Tried' it?
#984 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> How did you try it?
#985 [02:14] <Coll> I cant use the old launcher
#986 [02:14] <Mine_Builder> put your ip in your browser
#987 [02:14] <Coll> it is telling me to update
#988 [02:14] <xales> Coll: telling you to update what? the launcher?
#989 [02:14] <Coll> I tried both links in the minecraft site
#990 [02:14] <Coll> not working either
#991 [02:14] <Coll> yes the launcher
#992 [02:14] <xales> Coll: the links on the minecraft site are all to the new launcher
#993 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> The old launcher will force you to update from 1.2_02 to 1.3_01
#994 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing you can do about that
#995 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> The new launcher is currently down.
#996 [02:15] <Coll> can I have the old one then cause I want to play
#997 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> The authentication server is either overloaded, or down
#998 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Then use the old launcher, update to 1.3_01
#999 [02:15] <Trismegustis> old up
#1000 [02:15] <Coll> how is that when others are logging in fine
#1001 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> It works
#1002 [02:15] <Trismegustis> Hold up, even.
#1003 [02:15] <Trismegustis> If you don't have the old launcher..
#1004 [02:15] <nipper> GreyVulpine is it ok If I give the link to the old laucher. It still works as in lets you login atlest.
#1005 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> No
#1006 [02:15] <Trismegustis> Delete your minecraft bin folder
#1007 [02:15] <Trismegustis> And try to play in the in-browser version
#1008 [02:15] <Temragon> The launcher is linked on the forums
#1009 [02:15] <Temragon> Go fetch
#1010 [02:15] <xales> Coll: Use the one in the browser, on minecraft.net
#1011 [02:15] <Trismegustis> Then you can use the new launcher to play offline
#1012 [02:15] <Coll> ok
#1013 [02:15] <Trismegustis> It works, just tested.
#1014 [02:15] <Coll> I am not trying to play offline though
#1015 [02:16] <nipper> yeah I uploaded it to mcdominion if anyone wants it that is.
#1016 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> nipper - Please don't distribute that here
#1017 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> It is grounds for a ban
#1018 [02:16] <Sooi11> Ok my ip is in the sitebar
#1019 [02:16] <Trismegustis> You're trying to use SMP, Coll?
#1020 [02:16] <Sooi11> im on a purple kinda page
#1021 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Sooi11 - How are you port forwarding
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#1023 [02:16] <Sooi11> what now?
#1024 [02:16] <Coll> why is that grounds for ban Grey
#1025 [02:16] <xales> Coll: It is against the Minecraft license agreement
#1026 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Coll - It's distributing minecraft through unofficial means.
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#1028 [02:17] <Coll> I see
#1029 [02:17] <Trismegustis> ...
#1030 [02:17] <Trismegustis> You know...
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#1032 [02:17] <GLaDOS> GreyVulpine: the minecraft.jar
#1033 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1034 [02:17] <GLaDOS> not the launcher
#1035 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Right glad
#1036 [02:17] <GLaDOS> LRN2READ
#1037 [02:17] <GLaDOS> derp
#1038 [02:17] <Trismegustis> I get that Notch's grasp of legal systems is-
#1039 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Fine, you want to deal with the fallout? Be my guest
#1040 [02:17] <xales> GLaDOS: The launcher is also covered by the license
#1041 [02:17] <Trismegustis> Anyone got the license agreement handy?
#1042 [02:17] <xales> Trismegustis: http://minecraft.net/copyright.jsp
#1043 [02:17] <Kimax> can anyone come up with a good name for a survival server?
#1044 [02:18] <xales> says quite clearly, "do not distribute"
#1045 [02:18] <GLaDOS> Kimax: anal rape of your mother
#1046 [02:18] <GLaDOS> we're game support, not your bitch
#1047 [02:18] <Kimax> GLaDOS and you are an admin in here?
#1048 [02:18] <Colonel> is it jsut me or has minecraft been down for like 24 hrs?
#1049 [02:18] <GLaDOS> yes
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#1051 [02:18] <Colonel> .net*
#1052 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Colonel - Try the in-browser version
#1053 [02:18] <Trismegustis> Okay. Do third-party clients exist?
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#1055 [02:18] <GLaDOS> Colonel: welcome!
#1056 [02:18] <xales> Trismegustis: No
#1057 [02:18] <Colonel> ty
#1058 [02:18] <Trismegustis> Bugger.
#1059 [02:19] <Trismegustis> You know.
#1060 [02:19] <GLaDOS> Colonel: go to the queue
#1061 [02:19] <Trismegustis> I know Notch's knowledge of the law is, uh, lacking...
#1062 [02:19] * GLaDOS points at the 700 long queue of people asking why mc.net is down
#1062 [02:19] <xales> Trismegustis: He intentionally wrote it like that
#1063 [02:19] <Trismegustis> Hence why suddenly we were in Beta
#1064 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> What does "Beta" have to do with law?
#1065 [02:19] <xales> ^
#1066 [02:19] <Trismegustis> He promised free updates for life to Alpha owners
#1067 [02:19] <Trismegustis> Without realizing that meant expansion content
#1068 [02:20] <Trismegustis> Which is why suddenly we're in Beta.
#1069 [02:20] <Colonel> i don't care why I was jsut getting worried something was wrong on my end
#1070 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Uh-huh...
#1071 [02:20] <xales> Trismegustis: I wasn't aware you were Notch
#1072 [02:20] <feenyx> we're still Alpha owners
#1073 [02:20] <Trismegustis> I'm not.
#1074 [02:20] <AndrewPH> Trismegustis, He knew that and acknowledged it before beta.
#1075 [02:20] <Trismegustis> Look. Dude.
#1076 [02:20] <xales> Trismegustis: Well, you are wrong about pretty much all of that
#1077 [02:20] <Trismegustis> Notch has organized a company from bare bones
#1078 [02:20] <Trismegustis> And is a godly programmer
#1079 [02:20] <AndrewPH> Trismegustis, BAHAHAH
#1080 [02:20] <AndrewPH> oh god
#1081 [02:20] <AndrewPH> >godly
#1082 [02:20] <Trismegustis> He is an awesome dude and I don't mean to disrespect him
#1083 [02:21] <AndrewPH> He's not the best, but he's good at applying his ideas.
#1084 [02:21] <GLaDOS> Haha
#1085 [02:21] <GLaDOS> OH WOW
#1086 [02:21] <AndrewPH> Just not in the best possible way.
#1087 [02:21] * Trismegustis shrugs?
#1087 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Out with it
#1088 [02:21] <Trismegustis> Maybe I have low standards for gods
#1089 [02:21] <AndrewPH> Anyway you were saying?
#1090 [02:21] <Trismegustis> Actually?
#1091 [02:21] <zrbecker> Has Trismegustis made his point yet?
#1092 [02:21] <Trismegustis> No. I wasn't.
#1093 [02:21] <Trismegustis> But hey, I got 1.3 working
#1094 [02:22] <Trismegustis> So if you'll excuse me, you can all continue on to insulting me
#1095 [02:22] <Trismegustis> I'm-a go make a bed
#1096 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Trismegustis - Notch told us that Beta would be out once SMP was up to SP standards, nothing more.
#1097 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> He had no ulterior motive to move "suddenly" to beta
#1098 [02:22] <AndrewPH> And SMP is mostly up to SP standards give or take a bug here and there
#1099 [02:22] <Kealper> that sucks....i fell asleep at like 6pm
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#1101 [02:22] <Trismegustis> And that's lovely.
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#1103 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes, his lawyer advised him to remove that clause, and he clearly told all of us, and give us plenty of time to buy while it was still in alpha
#1104 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Even twittered, and blogged, and did everything to let people know
#1105 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Even in interviews
#1106 [02:23] <Trismegustis> I'm not saying it was his only reason, and his lawyer advised it for a reason.
#1107 [02:23] <Trismegustis> Dude.
#1108 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes.. Dude?
#1109 [02:23] <Trismegustis> I'm not trying to cast him as a malevolant moneygrubber
#1110 [02:23] <Trismegustis> Okay, now you're just mocking me.
#1111 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Then what are you trying to do?
#1112 [02:23] <Trismegustis> Nothing of the kind!
#1113 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Okay. So what is exactly your point?
#1114 [02:23] <aetherian> heya
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#1116 [02:23] <Kealper> so...is there a reason why i smell a troll?
#1117 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> It's alright Kealper.
#1118 [02:24] <Trismegustis> I've tried to drop it and I'm not trying to troll.
#1119 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Alright, if you want to drop it, we'll drop it
#1120 [02:24] <Kealper> it stinks though :<
#1121 [02:24] <Trismegustis> Will you.
#1122 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Matter is dropped.
#1123 [02:24] <AndrewPH> Mattress is undropped.
#1124 [02:24] <aetherian> I think I picked an innoportune moment to join...
#1125 [02:24] <AndrewPH> MATTRESS FIGHT
#1126 [02:24] <Trismegustis> You can't carry Mattress and No Mattress
#1127 [02:24] <Kealper> AndrewPH: sounds far more painful than a pillow fight
#1128 [02:25] <Kealper> especially if someone grabs the box spring >.>
#1129 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> I think we lost Soo..
#1130 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, we did.
#1131 [02:25] <Kealper> O.o
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#1133 [02:25] <AndrewPH> he mattress
#1134 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Wanted a rundown of how to port forward..
#1135 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Ping Timed out
#1136 [02:26] <Kealper> lol
#1137 [02:26] <Kealper> NOES
#1138 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Damnit
#1139 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> I give up on greybot
#1140 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> I don't know what the fuck is wrong with it
#1141 [02:26] <Kealper> is it just that computer that has issues?
#1142 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Probably
#1143 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> It's been running the same windows install since early 00s
#1144 [02:26] <Kealper> oh gosh lol
#1145 [02:27] <DopeGhoti> mmmm, food
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#1147 [02:29] <aeth|meh> o.o
#1148 [02:29] <aeth|meh> ha ha!
#1149 [02:29] <Kealper> hmm.....i went to play a song in my music library....and i guess it was not found, because Winamp just skipped over to Jump....
#1150 [02:29] <aeth|meh> two bots left to go...
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#1152 [02:29] <lem21h> hi
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#1154 [02:29] <Kealper> hi
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#1156 [02:29] <aeth|meh> hi
#1157 [02:30] <nevercast> hi
#1158 [02:30] <Kealper> O.o Fuzzmz has ipv6
#1159 [02:30] <elness> Hi
#1160 [02:30] <Fuzzmz> 5921:b564::5921:b564 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp ::)
#1161 [02:30] <Kealper> i'm jealous :<
#1162 [02:30] <Fuzzmz> 5921:b564::5921:b564 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :One of the lucky ones
#1163 [02:30] <lem21h> i have my own minecraft sever and i need to render map, i've tried with tectonicus and cartographer g, but it isn't work with current version of mc
#1164 [02:30] <lem21h> as well my map is quite big
#1165 [02:31] <lem21h> do you have any idea how to render map ?
#1166 [02:31] <DopeGhoti> lem21h: you'll have to wait for the map renderers to update to handle the new format of save files
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#1168 [02:31] <Kealper> lem21h: you'll have to wait until the mappers are updated with the latest map format changes
#1169 [02:31] <Kealper> dangit
#1170 [02:31] <Kealper> ninja'd
#1171 [02:31] <aeth|meh> this new thing must be quite annoying for large servers...
#1172 [02:31] <DopeGhoti> Note to self: ??+ smp/maps
#1173 [02:31] <aeth|meh> anyone wanna convert a 1gb map?
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#1175 [02:32] <Kealper> oh man, my map took ages to convert
#1176 [02:32] <Kitsu> good morning?
#1177 [02:32] <Kealper> and mine is just under about 100mb i think
#1178 [02:32] <Kealper> ello
#1179 [02:32] <lem21h> if you have it packed i could run process on my server aeth|meth
#1180 [02:32] <DopeGhoti> Kitsu: mornin'.
#1181 [02:32] <aeth|meh> I was being rhetorical
#1182 [02:33] <Kitsu> could anyone help me? i wanna build a texture pack but i dont know what the new block next to obsidian is and i neither know where the portal texture is stored :/
#1183 [02:33] <lem21h> i wonder when the plugins would be updated for craftbukkit
#1184 [02:33] <lem21h> because with new build that don't work too
#1185 [02:35] <Kitsu> anyone knows that?
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#1187 [02:35] <xales> Kitsu: the block next to obsidian is unused right now
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#1189 [02:35] <xales> as for portal, can't help you there
#1190 [02:35] <Kitsu> hmm
#1191 [02:36] * xales goes to sleep now
#1191 [02:36] * Kealper waves to xales
#1191 [02:36] <Kitsu> gn8
#1192 [02:37] <aeth|meh> me says "good night" to xales with aubot
#1193 [02:37] <aeth|meh> aww >.>
#1194 [02:37] <aeth|meh> that's no fun
#1195 [02:37] <Kealper> !enable
#1196 [02:37] <Kealper> oh....lul...
#1197 [02:37] <aeth|meh> @_@
#1198 [02:37] <Kealper> you didn't do it as an action
#1199 [02:37] <Kitsu> standardskin has 16px each tile is 32 supported too?
#1200 [02:37] <aeth|meh> ohhh
#1201 [02:37] <aeth|meh> fail
#1202 [02:38] <Kealper> Kitsu: not without a mod
#1203 [02:38] <lem21h> is there new mod for textures ?
#1204 [02:38] * VoxelHead Kealpers AuBot to goodbye with an aeth|meh.
#1204 [02:38] <Kealper> wut
#1205 [02:38] <Kealper> my brian hurts reading that
#1206 [02:38] <Kealper> brain*
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#1209 [02:39] <marten01> ji
#1210 [02:39] <marten01> hi
#1211 [02:39] <Kitsu> for me most important question: is there any way to enable half transparent textures eg for glass?^^
#1212 [02:39] <DopeGhoti> gi
#1213 [02:39] <Kealper> ello
#1214 [02:39] <Mine_Builder> you can't
#1215 [02:40] <marten01> i think minecraft.net is down
#1216 [02:40] <Kealper> dope i was seriously thinking about typing gi, but thought against it....i should have lol
#1217 [02:40] <Mine_Builder> no it's not
#1218 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: no, you should have done with fi
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#1220 [02:40] <marten01> i cant connect
#1221 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> ??> marten01 overloaded
#1222 [02:40] <VoxelHead> marten01: (overloaded) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
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#1225 [02:41] <Kealper> Kitsu: it seems that block textures can only have 24-bit colors + fully transparent :/
#1226 [02:41] <marten01> what!?!?
#1227 [02:41] <Kitsu> but water and ice are semi transparent :/
#1228 [02:42] <fugger> Are other people having issues with the downloaded client?
#1229 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> Those are the only two blocks that can do that
#1230 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> ?? overloaded
#1231 [02:42] <fugger> Not logging in.
#1232 [02:42] <VoxelHead> overloaded: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1233 [02:42] <fugger> Ha ha ok
#1234 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> It's been pretty much 24 hours, I think I can change "overloaded" to "down"
#1235 [02:42] <Kitsu> there has to be a way to enable it for anotehr block too :)
#1236 [02:42] <fugger> Sorry
#1237 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> No need to be sorry
#1238 [02:43] <marten01> but if i play offline i cant play beta 1.2.3
#1239 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> You're not the first, nor will be the last person to ask.
#1240 [02:43] <Kitsu> @ fugger: yep if i switch to fullsceen before the mojang logo mincraft just crashes
#1241 [02:43] <fugger> Precisely - thats why i'm sorry.. ha ha
#1242 [02:43] <fugger> I made sure I read the MOTD before I asked incase it was in there
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#1244 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Meh, it's why we have the bot here.
#1245 [02:44] <aetherian> ow, dammit. darn neck pains >.>
#1246 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Alrighty.. I cleared the 2 meg !seen hash table from greybot.
#1247 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Maybe that was what was causing the issue
#1248 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> We'll see
#1249 [02:44] <aetherian> nooo
#1250 [02:45] <fugger> Thanks
#1251 [02:45] <aetherian> greybot must stay dead D:
#1252 [02:45] * GreyVulpine stabs aetherian
#1252 [02:45] <aetherian> must... purge...
#1253 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> !thwap aetherian
#1254 [02:45] <aetherian> fail
#1255 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Oh come...
#1256 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> !bap aetherian
#1257 [02:45] <aetherian> I win!
#1258 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> !grey on
#1259 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> !bap aetherian
#1260 [02:45] * GreyBot baps aetherian.
#1260 [02:45] <aetherian> I am victorious!
#1261 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> !thwap aetherian
#1262 [02:45] * GreyBot uberTHWAPS aetherian over the head.
#1262 [02:45] <DopeGhoti> ??close-faq
#1263 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#1264 [02:45] <aetherian> I already won, grey, kills don't count anymore
#1265 [02:46] <DopeGhoti> ??open-faq
#1266 [02:46] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: it is now mc.net/authdown
#1267 [02:46] <aetherian> ?? !
#1268 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks DopeGhoti
#1269 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> Maybe tomorrow, we'll get to use that command less.
#1270 [02:47] <DopeGhoti> hope so
#1271 [02:47] <aetherian> but it's so fun using it...
#1272 [02:47] <aetherian> I hope things never change
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#1274 [02:47] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#1274 [02:48] <aetherian> moooo
#1275 [02:48] <Kealper> moo
#1276 [02:48] * DopeGhoti burns aetherian and Kealper with fire.
#1276 [02:49] <Kealper> D:
#1277 [02:49] * aetherian is actually a skrull, didn'tcha know?
#1277 [02:49] <aetherian> I was guaranteed full protection >:O
#1278 [02:49] * DopeGhoti once inadvertently burned down a three-tier free farm just to shut the cows up
#1278 [02:49] * GreyVulpine casts magic missile at aetherian, dealing 4d100 damage
#1278 [02:49] <Kealper> oh my
#1279 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> !roll 4d100
#1280 [02:49] <DopeGhoti> (it turns out that fire will spread through a meter of stone. Who knew?)
#1281 [02:50] <aetherian> fail
#1282 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Oh come on
#1283 [02:50] <aetherian> bot
#1284 [02:50] <aetherian> lmao
#1285 [02:50] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: pics or it didn't happen.
#1286 [02:50] <Kitsu> didnt you turnet him off again?
#1287 [02:50] <Kealper> greybot y u no roll?
#1288 [02:50] <aetherian> wha
#1289 [02:50] <DopeGhoti> I want to see the medical report too.
#1290 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> !roll 4d100
#1291 [02:50] * GreyBot --> "GreyVulpine rolls 4d100 and gets 188."
#1291 [02:50] <aetherian> failroll
#1292 [02:50] <Kitsu> why?
#1293 [02:50] <aetherian> !roll 4d100
#1294 [02:51] <aetherian> dammit
#1295 [02:51] <aetherian> let me roll >.>
#1296 [02:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> aetherian irc/bots
#1297 [02:51] <VoxelHead> aetherian: (irc/bots) The bots in this channel are meant to be used for assisting users in need of help
#1298 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - I deleted the 2 meg !seen hash file
#1299 [02:51] <VoxelHead> aetherian: (irc/bots) Abuse of the bots will have you removed from the channel. If you aren't using the bot for it's intended purpose, you ARE abusing it
#1300 [02:51] <aetherian> ...
#1301 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> We'll see if that helps any
#1302 [02:51] <DopeGhoti> >:D
#1303 [02:51] <aetherian> he wasn't using it to "help" anybody
#1304 [02:51] <aetherian> I just wanted a fair roll against him
#1305 [02:51] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: aubot clears it's !seen file, if someone has not been seen in 4 weeks they are cleared :o
#1306 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - I kept !seen for years
#1307 [02:52] <Kealper> ohmy
#1308 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> I still have my original network founder, from like '05 or so
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#1311 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> A 2 meg hash file is BIG
#1312 [02:52] <aetherian> o.o
#1313 [02:52] <Kealper> in all honesty, mine clears it in 28 days not to save space, but to help prevent integer rollovers on my timestamps
#1314 [02:52] <aetherian> I know the problem with your bot
#1315 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> It was never coded to last this long
#1316 [02:53] <aetherian> it's just an old guy now
#1317 [02:53] <Kealper> showing someone online -15 days ago ftl
#1318 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Was an experiment in my free time, which turned into a "Hey, what games can I fit on greybot today"
#1319 [02:53] <aetherian> hand it a rejuvenation potion
#1320 [02:53] <Kealper> lol
#1321 [02:53] <relsqui> Kealper: hey, wait 15 days and see, maybe it's right
#1322 [02:53] <aetherian> lol
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#1324 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> To a.. "Oh, I know C++ now, greybot and mIRC scripting is so uncool"
#1325 [02:53] <aetherian> what games are on there, eh?
#1326 [02:54] <Kealper> relsqui: I N C E P T I O N *BWAAAAAAAP*
#1327 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> And there it sat for a few more years
#1328 [02:54] * aetherian knows one
#1328 [02:54] <sardo97> Bye guys. I'm going to get well deserved sleep!
#1329 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> Laters sardo97
#1330 [02:55] <leiger> This is complicated! I've set difficulty to "passive" for now so I can learn what I'm doing... am I right in thinking that this mode is 100% safe? Or are there still some things that can kill me (creepers etc) ?
#1331 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> Peaceful is 100% safe
#1332 [02:55] <leiger> Awesome
#1333 [02:55] <relsqui> I thought slimes still spawn in peaceful
#1334 [02:55] <Kealper> unless you fall from a very high cliff
#1335 [02:55] <aetherian> no, it's not safe
#1336 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Little ones are not hostile
#1337 [02:56] <DopeGhoti> well.. not 100% safe
#1338 [02:56] <aetherian> you can jump in hot tubs
#1339 [02:56] <aetherian> (lava)
#1340 [02:56] <ferdinand> you can drown
#1341 [02:56] <DopeGhoti> pigs can for example nudge you off of precipices
#1342 [02:56] <aetherian> you can suffocate, too
#1343 [02:56] <leiger> lol , apart from a silly mistake like drowning or falling, no monsters in passive though ?
#1344 [02:56] <Kitsu> you can fell 100 meters and die^^
#1345 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> No monsters
#1346 [02:56] <leiger> Good
#1347 [02:56] <relsqui> I've encountered small slimes which can hurt me but I cannot hurt them
#1348 [02:56] <marten01> i cant connect:(
#1349 [02:56] <relsqui> (there are some weird slime-related bugs in the current update)
#1350 [02:57] <Kealper> these headphones are so awesome with bass
#1351 [02:57] <Stoffe111> i have never seen Slime O:
#1352 [02:57] <leiger> I found a cave in the mountain. I've filled in the back end because I don't want to look in there yet, and the outside I filled with one-block thick dirt. Would I need a thicker wall at the higher levels, or is one block thick enough? Do monsters dig through dirt?
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#1354 [02:57] <ferdinand> i've never seen slime ether
#1355 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Monsters don't dig through dirt.. yet
#1356 [02:57] <Kealper> leiger: one block is enough
#1357 [02:57] <leiger> Thanks
#1358 [02:57] <relsqui> monsters don't dig; creepers explode through dirt, but on peaceful that won't be a problem
#1359 [02:57] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: don't say that, you'll get me worried!
#1360 [02:57] <marten01> i have seen 2 slimes:O
#1361 [02:57] <relsqui> I was actually about to ask a similar question
#1362 [02:58] <relsqui> to wit, does the defense improvement of a two-thick wall warrant the bother?
#1363 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - DF titans, or dragons, or any other super bad boss, ported to minecraft
#1364 [02:58] * Kealper shudders
#1364 [02:58] <DopeGhoti> CreeperGhasts.
#1365 [02:58] <leiger> was reading this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner%27s_guide
#1366 [02:58] <nevercast> mollstam, You just posted regarding login issues..
#1367 [02:58] <nevercast> mollstam, new client can't connect.
#1368 [02:58] <leiger> at end, it suggests setting a trap, TNT below a pressure plate
#1369 [02:58] <leiger> So there are other ways to defend my home too I guess
#1370 [02:58] <relsqui> I have seen this many slimes https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/13951537/1/Minecraft?h=8b3361#gallery:5
#1371 [02:58] * GreyVulpine stares at DopeGhoti
#1371 [02:58] <relsqui> plus more
#1372 [02:59] <DopeGhoti> D:
#1373 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> NO!
#1374 [02:59] <nevercast> :L
#1375 [02:59] <Kealper> bad DopeGhoti, bad!
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#1377 [02:59] <relsqui> hmm. I think there's a bubble in my moat that's dark enough for stuff to spawn in
#1378 [02:59] <the_nekron> Quick question, because I haven't seen any issues quite like it.
#1379 [03:00] <relsqui> when monsters are coming from the moat, you're doing castle protection wrong
#1380 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> the_nekron - Shoot
#1381 [03:00] <the_nekron> Whenever I boot Minecraft, it disables visual styles in Windows 7.
#1382 [03:00] <Kitsu> i never saw a slime :(
#1383 [03:00] <nevercast> the_nekron, probably
#1384 [03:00] <nevercast> the_nekron, I think it's a 'save gpu power' thing
#1385 [03:00] <nevercast> the_nekron, disabling nero
#1386 [03:00] <nevercast> ahh, aero
#1387 [03:00] <nevercast> derp
#1388 [03:00] <Kealper> the_nekron: sounds like a setting in windows 7 to disable Aero when directx or opengl gamese are running
#1389 [03:01] <leiger> oh and another question... do torches ever stop burning? Do I need to make some more to replace the current one if it runs out ?
#1390 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Not right now, no
#1391 [03:01] <nevercast> leiger, they are go on fo-ever bro
#1392 [03:01] <Kealper> i've seen it ask me if i wanted to do that every time before
#1393 [03:01] <the_nekron> Alright, I suppose that makes sense.
#1394 [03:01] <leiger> okay, thanks again
#1395 [03:01] <Kealper> not sure where the setting is to change it though
#1396 [03:01] <nevercast> Kealper, yeah same lol.
#1397 [03:01] <DopeGhoti> leiger: presently, torches are infinite; there are plans for lanterns and when lanters are implemented, torches will burn our but can be re-lit
#1398 [03:01] <the_nekron> My computer's getting up there in years, so it's not all that surprising, really.
#1399 [03:01] <the_nekron> Just wanted to clear that up. Thanks!
#1400 [03:02] <aetherian> guys guys guys.
#1401 [03:02] <aetherian> night night night.
#1402 [03:02] <Kealper> i think....i want to go stare at a screen of code for a few hours...again...
#1403 [03:02] <Kitsu> i'll start now with my work :)
#1404 [03:02] * aetherian waves good night to aubot
#1404 [03:03] <nevercast> bye aetherian
#1405 [03:03] * aetherian tells aubot to quit copying him
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#1406 [03:03] <aetherian> >D
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#1408 [03:03] <Kitsu> ouh two more questions:
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#1410 [03:03] <aetherian> night, it's good. helluva time.
#1411 [03:04] <geekazoid> hullo
#1412 [03:04] <Kitsu> i tried already to change the clock but it didnt work :/
#1413 [03:04] <geekazoid> anyone else notice servers down?
#1414 [03:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> geekazoid mc.net/authdown
#1415 [03:04] <VoxelHead> geekazoid: (mc.net/authdown) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1416 [03:04] <Kitsu> -> the changes were not applied by game
#1417 [03:04] <geekazoid> can't connect to minecraft.net
#1418 [03:04] <geekazoid> 500 error / too many connections
#1419 [03:04] <DopeGhoti> Kitsu: 'change the clock' in what sense?
#1420 [03:05] <nevercast> geekazoid, yeah everyone has noticed.. it's been an ongoing problem.. that I HOPE Mojang are working on
#1421 [03:05] <Kitsu> the clock itself (the golden thing shows you the ingametime) and the texture wich is used to show the time
#1422 [03:06] <DopeGhoti> Kitsu: oh, your texpack
#1423 [03:06] <Kitsu> yup
#1424 [03:06] <geekazoid> is there somewhere that is supposed to say what the status is?
#1425 [03:06] <DopeGhoti> geekazoid: not at present.
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#1427 [03:08] <barebones> is anyone having trouble logging in with the new minecraft launcher but the old one connects fine
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#1429 [03:08] <Kitsu> where i get the new one?
#1430 [03:09] <DopeGhoti> !client
#1431 [03:09] <relsqui> same place you got the old one
#1432 [03:09] <geekazoid> barebones http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=189267
#1433 [03:10] <Kitsu> i have problems with the new one too
#1434 [03:11] <geekazoid> i tried to post to that thread btw, but apparently the mail server for the forum is down as well cause it won't send me the activation email
#1435 [03:11] <barebones> oh
#1436 [03:12] <geekazoid> scratch last, it came in after about 10 mins
#1437 [03:13] <geekazoid> can someone link me the play online link?
#1438 [03:13] <Kitsu> the tile next to tnt is that a a cobweb?
#1439 [03:13] <geekazoid> the root URL won't work but maybe that will
#1440 [03:13] <relsqui> http://minecraft.net :p
#1441 [03:13] <relsqui> oh
#1442 [03:13] <relsqui> I see
#1443 [03:13] <geekazoid> relsqui, that URL isn't working says too many open connections (you probably have a session open on the server already)
#1444 [03:14] <geekazoid> something like http://minecraft.net/playminecraft.bleh
#1445 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> http://www.minecraft.net/game/ ?
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#1447 [03:14] <geekazoid> thx lemme try that
#1448 [03:14] <Icepikoftime> Hello everyone
#1449 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#1450 [03:15] <geekazoid> 500 Servlet Exception java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#1451 [03:15] <geekazoid> :-/
#1452 [03:15] <Icepikoftime> I'm having troubles with my Minecraft Launcher.
#1453 [03:15] <Icepikoftime> It won't connect and update properly.
#1454 [03:15] <Icepikoftime> Anyone have any suggestions?
#1455 [03:16] <Icepikoftime> They would be greatly appreciated
#1456 [03:16] <Kitsu> i could send you the old one wich workes better?
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#1458 [03:16] <geekazoid> Kitsu pls link old one, just for kicks
#1459 [03:17] <Kitsu> ?
#1460 [03:17] <Icepikoftime> No no thank you I don't want to take any chances lol
#1461 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> geekazoid: distributing the launcher is not permitted
#1462 [03:17] <Icepikoftime> I believe I still have my old launcher file actually
#1463 [03:17] <geekazoid> <Kitsu>: i could send you the old one wich workes better?
#1464 [03:17] <nipper> Is it me or if you have f3 on monsters now have number name tags
#1465 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> it says "do not distribute".
#1466 [03:17] <Icepikoftime> I'll try it
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#1469 [03:18] <Kitsu> hm then i cant help you^^
#1470 [03:18] <Icepikoftime> Yes thanks for the offer though
#1471 [03:18] <Kitsu> nipper: no i have thsi too
#1472 [03:18] <Attaint> i need help with connecting to servers..
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#1474 [03:18] <h1e> Hi .. the auth server is still overloaded? Oo
#1475 [03:18] <nipper> lol
#1476 [03:18] <Attaint> everytime i try to, it says "Logging in..." for ages, then says "Connection Lost, Timed Out"
#1477 [03:19] <Icepikoftime> yeah I've been trying to setup a server for me and a friend for a while now. No such luck in getting one running though.
#1478 [03:19] <Icepikoftime> The same here
#1479 [03:19] <Icepikoftime> At first I was able to connect and he couldn't
#1480 [03:19] <Icepikoftime> and then I couldn't connect and neither could he
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#1482 [03:19] <Icepikoftime> this doesn't solve your problem but it might add to someones understanding of your problem
#1483 [03:20] <DopeGhoti> Icepikoftime: what would happen when the person unable to connect, tried?
#1484 [03:20] <Icepikoftime> and mine
#1485 [03:20] <h1e> The Launcher tells me still Cant connect to minecraft.net ...
#1486 [03:20] <Icepikoftime> It would say timed out
#1487 [03:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> h1e mc.net authdown
#1488 [03:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> h1e mc.net/authdown
#1489 [03:20] <VoxelHead> h1e: (mc.net/authdown) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1490 [03:20] <Kitsu> h1e: the old one (if you find it anywhere) can connect without problems
#1491 [03:21] <Attaint> so i'm not the only one getting the "Timed Out" issue with connecting to servers?
#1492 [03:21] <DopeGhoti> Attaint: indeed.
#1493 [03:21] <relsqui> the old one does have the same problem, just not nearly as much
#1494 [03:21] <relsqui> oof, my terminal is super lagged, don't mind me
#1495 [03:22] <Icepikoftime> After a day or so we gave it a shot again for a few hours trying different methods neither of us were able to connect and probably missed something simple on my end.
#1496 [03:22] <Jaillyn> I've been denied logging in with the new launcher for days. the old launcher works, tho.. but I play on a 1.2_02 server so the old launcher is a bad thing
#1497 [03:23] <Attaint> is it something to do with my internet if my friend is able to connect to a server, while it says "Timed Out" for me?
#1498 [03:24] <Icepikoftime> Yeah I never could make a multiplayer server run properly. But I'm having problems connecting to the authentication server like VoxelHead said and thus will just have to wait it out.
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#1500 [03:25] <Icepikoftime> Could be something to do with your modem settings I'm not quite sure
#1501 [03:25] <Icepikoftime> Not quite sure at all
#1502 [03:25] <Tweakd> still not connecting :(
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#1504 [03:27] <ShadowFerret> I just completely got rid of minecraft and fresh downloaded it, for some reason i can't connect to minecraft.net when i login. is minecraft.net down or do i have a different problem?
#1505 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/auth
#1506 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#1507 [03:27] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1508 [03:27] <Attaint> omg
#1509 [03:27] <Attaint> i connected
#1510 [03:27] <Attaint> HALELUJAH!
#1511 [03:32] <Icepikoftime> I just wish that I could connect to update. I would then just play offline.
#1512 [03:32] <rf`> whoooooo minecraft.net 500'd. too many people :V
#1513 [03:34] <rf`> so much overload
#1514 [03:35] <ShadowFerret> i just wish i could connect
#1515 [03:35] <rf`> as does everyone else
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#1518 [03:40] <Shaffer> asd
#1519 [03:40] <Shaffer> Can someone help me out here. I just recently bought minecraft so I'm pretty noob at it. I am currently running a server and trying to connect to it. I can connect to it just fine w/ the built in browser but when I try connecting w/ the client executable it says "Cannot connect to minecraft.net.". I also tested it w/ my firewall off but I was still unable
#1520 [03:40] <Shaffer> to connect, any suggestions?
#1521 [03:40] <lemon-rev> shaffer whats the ip your useing
#1522 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#1523 [03:41] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1524 [03:41] <lemon-rev> grey its more server based
#1525 [03:41] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1525 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> still the downloaded client
#1526 [03:41] <Kitsu> the new minecraft launcher has problems wich connecting but the old one works fine
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#1528 [03:41] <Shaffer> Can anyone link me to an older client?
#1529 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> We don't provide links to that here, it's against minecraft's licensing agreement
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#1532 [03:42] <Shaffer> Okay, thanks.
#1533 [03:43] <lemon-rev> whats in the newest update appart from .3 when it came out this morning, its like now 3.01 ?
#1534 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes, 1.3_01
#1535 [03:43] <squiggy> Are the auth servers jammed up?
#1536 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes squiggy
#1537 [03:43] <lemon-rev> im useing webbased to login
#1538 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> The in-browser client still works
#1539 [03:45] <Kitsu> anyone knows why the new one have this problems?
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#1541 [03:45] <relsqui> Kitsu: the server is overloaded
#1542 [03:45] <relsqui> old one hits a different server
#1543 [03:46] <Kitsu> ah
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#1545 [03:49] <squiggy> Sorry I was called away from the computer. Thank you for awnsering.
#1546 [03:49] <Virtuaftw> Hey! I am havign soem trouble, keep getting Can't connect to minecraft.net I just bought it what could be the problem
#1547 [03:49] <Virtuaftw> Having some*
#1548 [03:50] <squiggy> I haave to say I was in two times befor the servers jammed up, the new lighting ran far smoother for me and the levels looked soo crisp and new!
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#1550 [03:51] <Virtuaftw> Hey! I am having some trouble, keep getting Can't connect to minecraft.net I just bought it what could be the problem?
#1551 [03:52] <mib_3dvmsh> Having trouble with my server...server is functioning (I can connect via "localhost"), and the port is forwarded correctly; however, my friend still can't connect to my server. Any ideas? (I tried this with all firewalls on my computer turned off, and it still would not allow my friend to connect)
#1552 [03:52] <rf`> auth servers are still overloaded
#1553 [03:52] <rf`> nobody can get in
#1554 [03:52] <squiggy> Virtua - the authorization servers have a hard time keeping up with all of the clients. They keep upgrading them and moving them to stronger locations but more and more people keep hearing and seeing mc and buyign it!
#1555 [03:52] <Virtuaftw> Any idea when they will be back up?
#1556 [03:52] <Kitsu> you can do nothing but wait and keep trying
#1557 [03:53] <ferdinand> ha server mods are slow at this ones questions
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#1559 [03:53] <Virtuaftw> Thank you for the answer
#1560 [03:53] <Virtuaftw> Btw!
#1561 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> We mods have to take a break sometime
#1562 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> Thanks for answering while we were away
#1563 [03:54] <squiggy> ^_^
#1564 [03:55] <squiggy> Ohh my buddy just launched with the old launcher adn connected to his server!
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#1568 [03:55] <mib_3dvmsh> So...were any of those responses to my question?
#1569 [03:55] <squiggy> Oh wait he said hes goign to try
#1570 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> mib_3dvmsh - Sorry, nope. Could you tell us what your network setup is like?
#1571 [03:56] <Kitsu> old laucher uses other servers -> higher success rate
#1572 [03:57] <Kitsu> if you have it anywhere try it with that one
#1573 [03:57] <squiggy> Aww it just updates :P
#1574 [03:57] <mib_3dvmsh> Laptop (with active ZoneAlarm firewall, though it was disabled to negate the possibility of it interfering) > Linxys Router > Internet
#1575 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, zonealarm
#1576 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> We've had tons of problems here with zonealarm not turning itself off, even when disabled
#1577 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> Mind uninstalling it to test?
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#1579 [03:59] <mib_3dvmsh> I would really rather not.
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#1582 [04:04] <bletch> :D
#1583 [04:04] <bletch> Hey guys. Im having trouble connecting to any server. Says failed to connect. I noticed I also can't watch some streams online and a couple game websites have issues with chat. I think it might have to do with a port or something but I'm fairly noob with networking.
#1584 [04:04] <bletch> Any ideas?
#1585 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> How are you conneting to your server?
#1586 [04:05] <bletch> through a browser
#1587 [04:05] <bletch> firefox and chrome same issue
#1588 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> What type of server is this?
#1589 [04:05] <bletch> minecraft, just the beta server my friend set up, free version
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#1591 [04:06] <bletch> every server i try
#1592 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> Okay, just to get the confusing terminology out of the way. Beta is the paid, premium server, complete with crafting, survival, and monsters
#1593 [04:06] <bletch> free browswer version
#1594 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> Creative is the free, "have all blocks", no mobs/crafting server
#1595 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Creative can also go by "Classic"
#1596 [04:07] <bletch> ok so its letting me connect to someone else's
#1597 [04:07] <bletch> just not the server my friend is running and i normally can log into
#1598 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> I'm guessing by that, you mean you're setting up a creative server
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#1600 [04:08] <bletch> creative yes
#1601 [04:09] <bletch> he has it setup, weve played a bumch previously
#1602 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> Okay. How previous?
#1603 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> How long ago?
#1604 [04:09] <bletch> couple days
#1605 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Then have him recheck all his port forward settings
#1606 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Make sure they still match up
#1607 [04:10] <bletch> is anyone on who can try and connect to his creative server?
#1608 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> I'm here
#1609 [04:10] <bletch> he says nothing has changed on his end
#1610 [04:11] <bletch> "fitty cent" is the server name lol
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#1612 [04:13] <bletch> could you try and see if it lets you in?
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#1614 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> Trying, doesn't look like it's working
#1615 [04:13] <bletch> ah so its on him then
#1616 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'm unable to connect. Tried thrice.
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#1618 [04:16] <bletch> hmmm
#1619 [04:16] <bletch> hes got the 25565 port fowarded
#1620 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Is it port forwarded to the right address?
#1621 [04:17] <bletch> yeah his ip
#1622 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> Can he double check his computer's internal address to the one in the port forward
#1623 [04:18] <bletch> they match up
#1624 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> You're positive about that then.
#1625 [04:19] <bletch> im on skype with him and he ipconfigged and checked
#1626 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> Then is he running any sort security software or firewall.
#1627 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> And has he made sure that it's configured correctly
#1628 [04:23] <Kitsu> i'm out for now bye
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#1632 [04:31] <vewdew> anyone having mutiple failed login attempts ?
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#1635 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> Join. Ask question, leave not even a minute later
#1636 [04:33] <zilla> Hello?
#1637 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1638 [04:34] <zilla> Anyone there?
#1639 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> Not a soul
#1640 [04:35] <zilla> Thats reassuring.
#1641 [04:35] <billet> Sorry for covering probably old ground but, I'm a new player & getting "cannot connect to minecraft.net" from the launcher……..whats the status?
#1642 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> Authentication server's still down for the new launcher.
#1643 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> The in-browser client on minecraft.net's website still works though
#1644 [04:35] <billet> gotcha, where would I find the old launcher or do I just have to wait it out?
#1645 [04:36] <billet> oh ok thanks Grey :)
#1646 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> Sure.
#1647 [04:37] <zilla> Hey GreyVulpine, quick question, I hosted a server before and it worked fine but now no one can connect to my server, and the only way I can connect is by logging in with the IP of :25565.
#1648 [04:37] <zilla> Is there a fix for this?
#1649 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> Okay, well, first have you made sure your port forwarding rules are all correct? Second, double checked your security software on the server?
#1650 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> Third, are the people connecting to you, using the right IP?
#1651 [04:40] <zilla> I setup my port forwarding preferences when I first started the server, I opened the 25565 port. Im not sure about the security software? I dont recall ever installing any on the server before. And yes the IP is right.
#1652 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> Can you double check all your port forwarding settings.
#1653 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> Did you set a static IP, or DHCP for the server?
#1654 [04:43] <leiger> Another quick question: what happens if I die? Do I lose my home and start over with another random world, or respawn with everything I built still there?
#1655 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> You'll respawn, with no items
#1656 [04:43] <zilla> Yes I will double check the settings, and I believe it is a static.
#1657 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> All the items are dropped to your corpse
#1658 [04:43] <leiger> Ah, but still in the same world? So I can go back and pick up items @ corpse?
#1659 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> The spot that you first entered the world, is your spawn point
#1660 [04:44] <leiger> Can I change the spawn point?
#1661 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> So if you can find your home back from there, then your corpse, you'll see that your home is still there, and if you're lucky, you'll still get all your items back
#1662 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> (items disappear after 5 minutes on the ground)
#1663 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes leiger, with a map editor
#1664 [04:44] <leiger> Okay, thanks
#1665 [04:46] <billet> Another newb Q: the launcher says "You are not white-listed on this server"
#1666 [04:47] <billet> is that aka 'invite only'?
#1667 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1668 [04:47] <billet> k thanks
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#1670 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> People on a "blacklist" are banned from connecting to a server. People that are on a "whitelist" are the only ones able to connect to that server.
#1671 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> If it's whitelisted, either means it's completely private, or it's invite-only and you need to contact a server admin
#1672 [04:53] <Kealper> lol grey, tired of us talking about the differences between cheap and expensive toilet paper? :P
#1673 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1674 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> That discussion got weird
#1675 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> Plus my minecraft was extra laggy
#1676 [04:54] <Kealper> oh man, if you thought that was bad...that was rather tame compared to what has been in there before :P
#1677 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> 200-grit sandpaper toilet paper? Really?
#1678 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> ow
#1679 [04:55] <Kealper> it's not literally sandpaper, i just call it that because it's some super cheap stuff lol
#1680 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> :P
#1681 [04:55] <Kealper> it's like Scott brand or something....it's like a dollar for like a million miles of it per roll lol
#1682 [04:56] <Kealper> (everone else reading this is probably like lolwut?)
#1683 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, nobody's around
#1684 [04:56] <Kealper> logs >.>
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#1686 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Deny everything
#1687 [04:57] <Kealper> greatest thing about AuBot's logs...although i say contact me if you require removal of specific lines....
#1688 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Best line I've had to use at work. "I can neither confirm, nor deny hat...."
#1689 [04:57] <zrbecker> My eye wanders over here
#1690 [04:57] <zrbecker> lol
#1691 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> that*
#1692 [04:57] <Kealper> is i can't actually remove any lines from the log files
#1693 [04:57] <Kealper> and lol
#1694 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> The joys of NDAs.
#1695 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Also.
#1696 [04:58] <Kealper> i've tried removing lines from it, it just corrupts the entire day's log....storing it as binary data instead of strings ftl
#1697 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> ... oh bleh
#1698 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> That's crap
#1699 [04:59] <Kealper> yeah, but it saves a few kb of space per day on the size lol
#1700 [04:59] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/irclogs :o
#1701 [04:59] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#1701 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> A few kb a day?
#1702 [05:00] <Queen> Supid question, but is there an easy way to make the clouds in MC go up past the height limit? Or will I just have to look for a mod that does it?
#1703 [05:00] <Kealper> lol
#1704 [05:00] <Queen> Thanks.
#1705 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Queen - Sorry, nope
#1706 [05:00] <Kealper> Queen: not even sure a mod can do that :/
#1707 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Raising a cloud layer, I don't believe there's a mod for that
#1708 [05:00] <Queen> It's honestly the only complaint I have with the game...
#1709 [05:00] <Queen> Darn.
#1710 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> It was possible to remove the cloud texture...
#1711 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> back then
#1712 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> I don't know about now
#1713 [05:01] <Kealper> still possible iirc
#1714 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> I don't see why not
#1715 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Just try a simple google search
#1716 [05:01] <Queen> I shall
#1717 [05:01] <Queen> I just tend to prefer human interaction over a google search
#1718 [05:01] <Queen> Thanks.
#1719 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> if I remember correctly, it involved opening up minecraft.jar, looking for a cloud or something .png
#1720 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> opening it up in an image editor of your choice, and erasing everything in it
#1721 [05:02] <Queen> Shame that I have to remove the clouds though, since the sky will look really bland now
#1722 [05:03] <Kealper> in that same respect, you can make the clouds more transparent but still visible, so they don't get in the way as much
#1723 [05:03] <Queen> True, but I'd rather not be walking through clouds at all. Thanks though
#1724 [05:03] <Queen> :D
#1725 [05:06] <Kealper> so anyways....an issue with aubot's logging format...the logs have to be reparsed each time someone views a log on the page :/
#1726 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> My Minecrafthelp logs are at least 300-500k a day.
#1727 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> A few kb isn't going to shave off much
#1728 [05:06] <Kealper> lemme check what these are
#1729 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Today's is over 600k
#1730 [05:07] <Kealper> these are between 250 and 250kb
#1731 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> And that's just with greybot's logs. My client logs as well.
#1732 [05:07] <Kealper> 350*
#1733 [05:07] <Kealper> wait, today as in what?
#1734 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> er, the 23rd
#1735 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Yesterday >.>
#1736 [05:08] <Kealper> woh
#1737 [05:08] <Kealper> 756kb for aubot's logs for this channel that day
#1738 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, well, greybot's been up and down all day
#1739 [05:08] <Kealper> i must know how long that takes to parse lol
#1740 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, yeah, parsing mIRC logs
#1741 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> G'luck. I tried that back then, was a pain in the ass
#1742 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> (and I don't strip color/control codes in mine)
#1743 [05:09] <Kealper> i meant for aubot's format lol
#1744 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Ah, heh
#1745 [05:09] <Kealper> 8,600 messages for the 23rd
#1746 [05:10] * GreyVulpine whistles
#1746 [05:10] <Kealper> took 4.49 sec to parse it lol
#1747 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Ah, my log is 815k for yesterday
#1748 [05:10] <Kealper> aha! so my binary logging format does save a bit of space! lol
#1749 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> But do you keep control codes?
#1750 [05:11] <Kealper> control codes as in?
#1751 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> bold, underline, ....
#1752 [05:11] <Kealper> oh, that
#1753 [05:11] <Kealper> no
#1754 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> That adds a few KB there.
#1755 [05:11] <Kealper> true....
#1756 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Every line in mine is prefixed with a timecode of [05:11.48am]
#1757 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Plus more control codes in each nick.. easier readibility in mIRC, not so much in notepad
#1758 [05:13] <Kealper> mine is just in there as a 32-bit int saying the lenght of the next chunk of data, then the chunk of data would be an int with the value of say... 2359 which is parsed into hh:mm
#1759 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Ah, yeah. That's the smart way of doing it
#1760 [05:14] <Kealper> although i should add seconds to the logs :/
#1761 [05:16] <Kealper> wait....the 23rd was when the new update was released, right?
#1762 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> 22nd.. wasn't it?
#1763 [05:17] * Kealper looks
#1763 [05:17] <Kealper> yeah, guess it was
#1764 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, 22nd
#1765 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> And new article on mojang.com
#1766 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> documentary
#1767 [05:18] <Kealper> the 22nd and 23rd on aubot's logs are both pretty large lol
#1768 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1769 [05:18] <Kealper> i think this channel topped out at like 210 people, too :p
#1770 [05:18] <Kealper> :o*
#1771 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> Oh nice, the documentary group reached a third of their funding goals.
#1772 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> $50k so far
#1773 [05:19] <Kealper> wow lol
#1774 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/collectibles/e7fa/?cpg=tw
#1775 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> magnetic sheet of minecraft blocks
#1776 [05:23] <Kealper> wow i just checked my disk usage on my account on this server...with only my irssi configs and a few mb of stuff on cdn.kealper.com...i'm using like 100mb of space yay for irc logs!
#1777 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> whoa, login works on the new launcher
#1778 [05:25] * GreyVulpine burns ?? mc.net/authdown
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#1779 [05:25] * GreyVulpine dances
#1779 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> It's wooooorking
#1780 [05:27] <Kealper> :o
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#1783 [05:34] <Khep> Hello
#1784 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1785 [05:35] <Khep> I've one question with setting up a minecraft's server
#1786 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> Shoot
#1787 [05:35] <Khep> well, i'm running it in a linux
#1788 [05:36] <Khep> all is fine when I launch the minecraft_server.jar
#1789 [05:36] <Khep> but I would like to change some parameters
#1790 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> What parameters?
#1791 [05:36] <Khep> and i don't find the zip file
#1792 [05:36] <Khep> server properties
#1793 [05:36] <Khep> all i have is a .jar
#1794 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> You launched minecraft_server.jar successfully?
#1795 [05:37] <Khep> yep
#1796 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> if you did, it should've generated a 'world' folder in the same directory where you have minecraft_server
#1797 [05:37] <Khep> I followed the wiki page
#1798 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> as well as other files
#1799 [05:37] <Khep> hum
#1800 [05:37] <Khep> oh
#1801 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> How did you launch the server exactly?
#1802 [05:38] <Khep> I understand now
#1803 [05:38] <Khep> i made a .sh to launch the server
#1804 [05:38] <Khep> and all thoses files are in the folders of this .sh
#1805 [05:38] <Khep> folder*
#1806 [05:39] <Khep> well, i guess i have to make a few change about this .sh
#1807 [05:42] <pico> hm is there a server mods page? im searching a mod providing the /list command for normal players too
#1808 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit pico
#1809 [05:43] <pico> awwwww not bukkit again D:
#1810 [05:43] <pico> i just was proud to get rid of it D:
#1811 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1812 [05:44] <pico> or i missunderstand that mod, its only to provide stuff like whitelist, and several tools for multiservers and stuff like that for server hosters, or?
#1813 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> It's an unofficial mod API for developers to add content to vanilla minecraft
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#1815 [05:45] <pico> im a developer, but i will never touch java again :E
#1816 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> Until an official minecraft API is released, that's your best chance to adding additional functionality to a minecraft server beyond what is originally provided
#1817 [05:46] <pico> yeah but i need only this small command, no need for big mods doing wtfshit to the server :D
#1818 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> bukkit itself isn't anything big
#1819 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> It depends on what plugins you add to it
#1820 [05:47] <Khep> so, thanks for your help, GreyVulpine, bye !
#1821 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> You can add the "permissions" plugin, which adds the groups users functionality, so you can further fine tune who gets what command
#1822 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> And that's all it'll do
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#1824 [05:47] <pico> mhh
#1825 [05:48] <pico> before the update we just got bukkit for the whitelist thing
#1826 [05:48] <Squiggles> Just wanted to say auth servers are let me on first from the webpage and then from my clientloader!
#1827 [05:48] <pico> when i read the changelog of the update i just yelled "yay no more bukkit" :D
#1828 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1829 [05:48] <Squiggles> WooHoo!
#1830 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Yup. the loader is working for me as well
#1831 [05:48] * GreyVulpine dances
#1831 [05:49] <Squiggles> Ok happy crafting just wanted to makesure other people knew aswell!
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#1835 [05:56] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Yeah Tobias said smth but smth
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#1837 [06:00] <kolonia> Hey there... I'm having a problem with the homepage to register me as paid. I've paid minecraft last evening, and it worked fine. Then I logged out, logged in again and now it tells me to pay again to play. Then after a couple of hours it worked, but now it says I have to buy it again... its np to login on the webpage, but my account is registered to
#1838 [06:00] <kolonia> "not paid"... what do I have to do?? :(
#1839 [06:00] <kolonia> !paid kolonia
#1840 [06:01] <kolonia> the website says I havent paid...
#1841 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean? What page says you need to pay again?
#1842 [06:01] <kolonia> minecraft.net
#1843 [06:01] <kolonia> :/
#1844 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me a screenshot of the error?
#1845 [06:02] <kolonia> sure thing
#1846 [06:03] <kolonia> where is the easiest upload host for images? :)
#1847 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> imgur.com
#1848 [06:03] <gothroach> Indeed.
#1849 [06:04] <kolonia> http://imgur.com/7Q30h
#1850 [06:04] <kolonia> as u can see, it want me to buy it again
#1851 [06:04] <kolonia> which im not interested in, even it is a nice game :)
#1852 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> The username you used was brianahle
#1853 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> !paid brianahle
#1854 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Which has not paid for minecraft
#1855 [06:05] <gothroach> Hmm
#1856 [06:05] <gothroach> !paid GreyVulpine
#1857 [06:05] <gothroach> :D
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#1859 [06:05] <kolonia> umm
#1860 [06:05] <kolonia> I logged in as kolonia, but it says brianahle
#1861 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> problem with your cookies perhaps?
#1862 [06:05] <kolonia> I cant log out
#1863 [06:05] <kolonia> lol
#1864 [06:06] <kolonia> maybe
#1865 [06:06] <kolonia> I try reset em
#1866 [06:06] <Barford> I've downloaded the "server.exe" from the download screen, but it's not as a .exe it's a unidentified file
#1867 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Barford - What download screen?
#1868 [06:06] <Barford> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1869 [06:07] <kolonia> oh
#1870 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Huh, I got my updated server from there not a couple days ago
#1871 [06:07] * GreyVulpine redownloads
#1871 [06:07] <kolonia> it works now... dno why :P
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#1873 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Heh, well thenn.
#1874 [06:08] <Barford> is it just meant to be a exe to open up
#1875 [06:08] <Barford> i'm on win 7
#1876 [06:08] <kolonia> fanx :)
#1877 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing kolonia
#1878 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes barebones
#1879 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> er, Barford
#1880 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I just got the .exe from the site again, it works fine from this end
#1881 [06:09] <Barford> hmm
#1882 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> You sure you didn't rename it, or wipe the exe extension somehow?
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#1884 [06:09] <Barford> no, i'm going to rename it now with .exe
#1885 [06:10] <Barford> ahhh works now
#1886 [06:10] <Barford> just had to rename it with .exe at the end
#1887 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Ah
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#1889 [06:12] <leiger> Is there any way to expand how much I can carry in my inventory?
#1890 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> No. But you can craft chests to store items in
#1891 [06:13] <leiger> Okay, will look on wiki how to make them, most other items seem to be there. Thanks
#1892 [06:17] <Barford> Noob question, how do I figure out my servers IP address ?
#1893 [06:18] <Kealper> are you hosting it in your house?
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#1895 [06:19] <billet> go to www.whatismyip.com
#1896 [06:19] <Kealper> or just type !myip in here
#1897 [06:19] <billet> then user that ip and after it put :*
#1898 [06:19] <Kealper> like so:
#1899 [06:19] <Kealper> !myip
#1900 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Aww, they got rid of the southwest rule for dispensers?
#1901 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> You can hide dispensers behind blocks anymore..
#1902 [06:19] <Kealper> :/
#1903 [06:20] <Barford> um
#1904 [06:20] <Barford> so if I invited sombody to join my server
#1905 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Oh wait.. I'm dumb. Yes you can
#1906 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> I was just getting my directions mixed up
#1907 [06:20] <Kealper> lol
#1908 [06:20] <Barford> what would they put into the mutli join line
#1909 [06:21] <Kealper> just your ip
#1910 [06:21] <Kealper> UNLESS:
#1911 [06:21] <Kealper> you used a separate port, then they would type ip:port
#1912 [06:21] <Kealper> separate.....i mean different lol
#1913 [06:22] <Barford> ah ok
#1914 [06:22] <Kealper> guess my english fail means it's time for some sleep :/
#1915 [06:22] <Barford> i put in my IP and it timedout
#1916 [06:22] <Kealper> did you set up port forwarding?
#1917 [06:22] <Barford> I just ran the exe
#1918 [06:23] <billet> barford: do you know about your routers http://192.168.0.1 admin panel?
#1919 [06:23] <Kealper> that is not always the IP
#1920 [06:24] <Barford> I think it is for my router
#1921 [06:24] <billet> yeah i know but, lets take a guess ;)
#1922 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Barford, do you know how to access your router, and set up port forwarding?
#1923 [06:24] <Barford> well i know how to access my router, but port forwarding no
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#1925 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Okay, what Operating system are you on?
#1926 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Windows 7, you said, right?
#1927 [06:25] <Barford> yep
#1928 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Can you go to your start menu, in the search bar: type: cmd
#1929 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, at the black command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#1930 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> let us know what the ipv4 address there is
#1931 [06:27] <Barford> 192.168.1.101
#1932 [06:27] <billet> barford type !myip
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#1934 [06:27] <billet> !myip
#1935 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Okay, that's the ip address you'll need to set up in your router to port forward to
#1936 [06:27] <Barford> !mpip
#1937 [06:27] <Kealper> O.o
#1938 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> Barford - can you tell us what brand/model of router it is?
#1939 [06:28] <davefinton> So I figured out the problem that was cusing the minecraft client to hang my system
#1940 [06:28] <billet> typo xD
#1941 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> davefinton - Oh?
#1942 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> Do tell.
#1943 [06:28] <Barford> tp-link
#1944 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> tp-link?
#1945 [06:28] <Barford> the ip address for it is 192.168.1.1
#1946 [06:28] * GreyVulpine nods
#1946 [06:28] <davefinton> OK, so after I got Java re-installed last night to fix my general issues, I was still having problems getting minecraft to load
#1947 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> Got an exact model number?
#1948 [06:28] <billet> barford: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/TP-Link/TD-8800/default.htm
#1949 [06:29] <davefinton> the 1.3 launcher wouldn't work because of the https issues, and when I tried to launch the game with the 1.2 launcher, the Java process would lock up so badly that it would lock up my system forcing me to do a hard reboot, clear my cache, and start over again
#1950 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Right....
#1951 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> (also, the launcher works now)
#1952 [06:30] <davefinton> what I finally did to get it to work was just use the 1.2 launcher to download the 1.3 game itself, but not to use the 1.2 launcher to actually play the game
#1953 [06:30] <davefinton> that was what was causing my issues
#1954 [06:30] <Barford> wow, way too much is involved for this
#1955 [06:31] <davefinton> now I just load the 1.3 launcher, try to log in, get the can't connect error, and play offline
#1956 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> Barford - All you have to do is forward port 25565/TCP to your 192.168.1.101 IP address
#1957 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> It's not that much involved
#1958 [06:31] <billet> barford; its because you're trying to start a server - you have to tell your router to allow for incoming connections, it makes sense
#1959 [06:31] <Barford> it's saying I need to assign myself a static ip address
#1960 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> Skip that
#1961 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to
#1962 [06:32] <Barford> ok i'll ignore this guide
#1963 [06:32] <Barford> i've gone to my router page
#1964 [06:32] <Barford> it has a fowarding tab on it
#1965 [06:32] <Barford> can i just add the port to that list ?
#1966 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> Lemme have a look, one sec
#1967 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Okay, from this guide, it looks pretty straight forward
#1968 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/TP-Link/TD-8800/default.htm
#1969 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Once you're logged into your router, go to the services tab at the top
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#1971 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Basically just follow that
#1972 [06:35] <Barford> i have a diffrent setup to that page
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#1974 [06:35] <Barford> basiclly I need to tell my router to forward somthing into the internet
#1975 [06:35] <Barford> is that it ?
#1976 [06:35] <davefinton> barford: one thing to keep in mind is that if you have people connect to your server, they need to connect to your router's IP address, not the 192.168 address because people won't be able to see you there
#1977 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Barford - Basically, it's telling your router that, every port 25565 traffic that comes in from the outside, needs to route to your 192.168.1.101 computer hosting the minecraft server
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#1979 [06:37] <davefinton> so when you forward that port to your local computer's address, when people connect to the router, it automatically forwards it to your computer
#1980 [06:37] <Barford> ahh right
#1981 [06:37] * GreyVulpine nods
#1981 [06:37] <Barford> I've got this port tab
#1982 [06:37] <Barford> and it has port and address add
#1983 [06:38] <Barford> would I just type that info in
#1984 [06:38] <Barford> add or modify a Virtual Server Entry
#1985 [06:38] <Barford> Service Port: (XX-XX or XX)
#1986 [06:38] <Barford> IP Address:
#1987 [06:38] <Barford> Protocol: ALLTCPUDP
#1988 [06:38] <Barford> Status: DisabledEnabled
#1989 [06:38] <Barford> Common Service Port: --Select One--DNSFTPGOPHERHTTPNNTPPOP3PPTPSMTPSOCKTELNET
#1990 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Yeah Barford
#1991 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Add a virtual server entry
#1992 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Service port of 25565
#1993 [06:39] <Barford> ah ok
#1994 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Ip Address of 192.168.1.101
#1995 [06:39] <Barford> protocol ?
#1996 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Protocol, you can leave as all. Minecraft right now only uses TCP, but that could change in the future
#1997 [06:39] <Barford> ah ok
#1998 [06:39] <Barford> common service port ?
#1999 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Um, can you leave that one?
#2000 [06:40] <Barford> it says select one
#2001 [06:40] <Barford> i'll just save it
#2002 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Try saving
#2003 [06:40] <Barford> yep
#2004 [06:40] <Barford> worked
#2005 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Okay, good
#2006 [06:40] <Barford> cool thanks, now what
#2007 [06:40] <Barford> lol
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#2009 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> That should be it for port forwarding, can you check the router's status page there
#2010 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> make sure its public/wan/internet IP address matches up with whatismyip.com
#2011 [06:42] <Kealper> Kealper needs a new PC! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=929UZ6Nq-hk
#2012 [06:42] <Barford> so we're good to go ?
#2013 [06:42] <davefinton> if everything is set up, you should be able to start up your server and be able to connect to it via your router's IP address
#2014 [06:43] <Barford> ah ok
#2015 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Don't forget the windows' firewall, if you haven't already put it down
#2016 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> As well as any other security software that filters outside connections
#2017 [06:43] <Barford> the www.whatismyip.com that address is diffrent to the one i entered
#2018 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Barford - That's alright
#2019 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> The IP address you'll give, is the one found at whatismyip.com
#2020 [06:43] <Barford> ahh
#2021 [06:43] <Barford> could you join and check ?
#2022 [06:44] <Barford> i'll do so too
#2023 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Barford - sure
#2024 [06:44] <Barford> 121.221.107.120
#2025 [06:44] <Barford> is that all i type in the mutliplayer spot
#2026 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2027 [06:44] <Barford> it says unknown host
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#2029 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you typed it correctly
#2030 [06:44] <Schellinkhout> hey all
#2031 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2032 [06:45] <Barford> does it work for you ?
#2033 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Barford - Yes. I'm in
#2034 [06:45] <Barford> ohhh how excited
#2035 [06:45] <Barford> ing **
#2036 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Check your server's console
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#2038 [06:46] <Barford> hahaha awesome
#2039 [06:46] <Barford> thanks heaps bro
#2040 [06:46] <Barford> and even the map worked too
#2041 [06:46] <Barford> survival island !!
#2042 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#2043 [06:46] <Schellinkhout> So, the new update is giving me problems
#2044 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> What problems?
#2045 [06:47] <Schellinkhout> I converted my map, and minecraft just dissappears when the map load is almost finished
#2046 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not good.
#2047 [06:47] <Schellinkhout> I tryed it half screen. and I managed to get into the map, but all I saw was the moon, it wouldn't respond, and it quit out.
#2048 [06:48] <Schellinkhout> I gonna try another map real quick
#2049 [06:49] <Schellinkhout> fuck
#2050 [06:50] <Schellinkhout> my other maps work fine, my main one is too big I guess.
#2051 [06:51] <leiger> I keep seeing grey blocks with red dots on them.. but my stone pickaxe can't mine them (I get nothing from the block) ... do I need to use a better axe or some other tool to get it?
#2052 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> That, or it got corrupted somehow during the conversion process Schellinkhout
#2053 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> I guess, can you try loading it via MCedit, and see if you can't save it again?
#2054 [06:52] <Schellinkhout> I have multiple copies and back ups
#2055 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes MCedit can rescue corrupt worlds.
#2056 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay then
#2057 [06:52] <Schellinkhout> I'll try that.
#2058 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> leiger - Yes, for redstone, you need at least iron, if I remember correctly
#2059 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> iron pickaxe or better
#2060 [06:53] <nevercast> yeah that's correct
#2061 [06:53] <nevercast> it's best to have an iron pickaxe when below say level 16
#2062 [06:54] <nevercast> because everything down there is going to need a good pick
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#2064 [06:54] <Barford> hahaha this game is mint really is
#2065 [06:54] <nevercast> true :)
#2066 [06:54] <Barford> Just downloaded duke nukem skin hahahaha
#2067 [06:54] <nevercast> I've never skinned my char
#2068 [06:54] <nevercast> .. should consider it
#2069 [06:55] <Barford> Well, you dont really see it unless your in inventory
#2070 [06:55] <nevercast> other players see it though
#2071 [06:55] <Barford> true
#2072 [06:55] <Barford> ahhh F5
#2073 [06:55] <Barford> chase cam
#2074 [06:55] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, I'm outties.. night.. take care bro
#2075 [06:55] <Barford> seeya cast
#2076 [06:55] <nevercast> pz
#2077 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> laters
#2078 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> bah
#2079 [06:56] <leiger> Thanks again, GreyVulpine, nevercast
#2080 [06:56] <Barford> Hey grey, thanks by the way, I'm just waiting to find sombody to play the island with
#2081 [06:58] <Schellinkhout> dang
#2082 [06:58] <Schellinkhout> its my map thats the problem
#2083 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Sure Barford
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#2087 [07:04] <olivedu83> Hi everyone. I just bought the game but it starts with no sound. When I open the option tab, and try to turn music on, the program crashes and a bug report is created. Any idea to fix this porblem. Thanks
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#2094 [07:29] <Mikeh> Can someone help me? I bought minecraft and I can't play it, it won't join the servers and I can't play offline either, (theres no download link)
#2095 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> How long ago did you buy it, what error do you get when joining the servers?
#2096 [07:32] <Mikeh> around 12 hours ago
#2097 [07:32] <Mikeh> i paid via paypal
#2098 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> What error do you get?
#2099 [07:32] <Mikeh> and read it takes a couple of hours for my account to be active
#2100 [07:32] <Mikeh> erm
#2101 [07:32] <Mikeh> "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2102 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Try again
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#2104 [07:33] <Mikeh> it's working :D
#2105 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried recently, like within the past hour?
#2106 [07:33] <mib_p69ahn> hi
#2107 [07:33] <Mikeh> yeah it just worked. -.-
#2108 [07:33] <Mikeh> when u said it
#2109 [07:33] <Mikeh> i tried and it worked.
#2110 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the auth server came up not too long ago
#2111 [07:33] <Mikeh> can you help my friend aswell? I'm not sure if his is not working too
#2112 [07:33] <Mikeh> or shall i get him to login and try it?
#2113 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Sure, if he comes on
#2114 [07:33] <Mikeh> dunno fi he's in bed ;)
#2115 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> Just get him to login
#2116 [07:34] <Mikeh> i paid for him though through my paypal
#2117 [07:34] * GreyVulpine nods
#2117 [07:34] <Mikeh> i'll ring him, hold on
#2118 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> If the poor guy's in bed, leave him be :)
#2119 [07:35] <Mikeh> haha
#2120 [07:35] <Mikeh> he sounded proper TIRED :D
#2121 [07:35] <Mikeh> we was up till 6am waiting for it to auth :(
#2122 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#2123 [07:35] <Mikeh> yessss
#2124 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Well, the auth servers have stayed up for 2 hours so far, so fingers crossed
#2125 [07:35] <Mikeh> his works too :)
#2126 [07:36] <Mikeh> preciate the help baws :)
#2127 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> Glad you finally got in
#2128 [07:36] <Mikeh> i shall idle for abit now :)
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#2130 [07:43] <bar1> Having problems with a map I downloaded from a forum, I cant dig up blocks around the respawn location, can I cancel them re-appearing or is there a way to move the spawn spot ??
#2131 [07:44] <bar1> I'm playing it on my server
#2132 [07:45] <ConMan8> The spawn point has protection, only ops can edit it
#2133 [07:45] <bar1> Well, OP you mean server creator ?
#2134 [07:45] <ConMan8> ?? smp/opyourself
#2135 [07:46] <VoxelHead> smp/opyourself: If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#2136 [07:46] <VoxelHead> smp/opyourself: Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#2137 [07:46] <bar1> Ah i'll try that, thanks
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#2139 [07:48] <bar1> I am now OP
#2140 [07:48] <bar1> lol
#2141 [07:48] <bar1> so what now please ?
#2142 [07:48] <ConMan8> Now you can do stuff in the spawnpoint
#2143 [07:48] <bar1> how ?
#2144 [07:49] <ConMan8> Just like you would in any other place
#2145 [07:49] <bar1> oh right
#2146 [07:49] <bar1> So is there anyway to just move the spawn point so I dont need to OP other people ?
#2147 [07:50] <ConMan8> You can with a map editor
#2148 [07:50] <bar1> I've tried, they dont reconize the file
#2149 [07:51] <bar1> anyway, I'll just OP my friends who join, thanks for the advice
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#2151 [07:51] <Dalc> Hello, does minecraft work on linux ?
#2152 [07:52] <ConMan8> Yes it does, just download the version under Linux/Other on the download page
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#2154 [07:53] <Dalc> Ok :)
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#2156 [07:59] <Johnny5> i cant play minecraft
#2157 [08:00] <Johnny5> i get this everytime, even the in-browser doesnt work http://pastebin.com/Bx3VcFKU
#2158 [08:01] <ConMan8> ..where does that appear?
#2159 [08:02] <Johnny5> error report
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#2161 [08:06] <Johnny5> i assume nobody can help me, then
#2162 [08:06] <Mikeh> Can somebody help me? I'm curious as to the minimum memory i'd need to buy if i was to buy a minecraft server (dedicated)
#2163 [08:06] <Mikeh> I only want an 8 slot.
#2164 [08:07] <sim642> I'm trying to run minecraft on a linux machine, but I get some error that tells me that only one LWJGL context may run at one time.
#2165 [08:08] <ConMan8> Mikeh: It's roughly 100MB per person
#2166 [08:11] <Postoffice> is it possible to teleport a player to coordinates?
#2167 [08:12] <BarryCarlyon> Postoffice: not in core/vanilla minecraft
#2168 [08:12] <BarryCarlyon> t
#2169 [08:12] <Postoffice> darn
#2170 [08:12] <ConMan8> If they're an op and another player is at those coordinates :3
#2171 [08:12] <BarryCarlyon> well yah
#2172 [08:13] <Postoffice> haha, ye :P
#2173 [08:13] <Postoffice> but as an OP i can build in spawn?
#2174 [08:14] <ConMan8> yes
#2175 [08:14] <Postoffice> kk :D
#2176 [08:14] <Mikeh> okies mate, will it cap like how fast it runs, if i buy a 6 slot with 600mb data?
#2177 [08:17] <LG_Legacy> Hm?
#2178 [08:22] <Mikeh> will an 8 slot with 600mb of data be enough?
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#2181 [08:33] <Sh4d3R> hello sombody there?
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#2185 [08:35] <re4397> I need a help, I am tring to buy the game...
#2186 [08:35] <re4397> I got transaction error, all time, I am from Brazil
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#2189 [08:39] <onobal> hi
#2190 [08:39] <onobal> any 1.3_01 servers up?
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#2192 [08:44] <Pakmaan> Hi
#2193 [08:45] <Pakmaan> Guys, I have a problem...
#2194 [08:45] <Pakmaan> Someone can help me please ?
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#2197 [08:47] <Abbc> hello, still having iusses
#2198 [08:47] <Abbc> same errors
#2199 [08:47] <Abbc> :(
#2200 [08:47] <Abbc> i updated gfx driver
#2201 [08:47] <Abbc> nothing
#2202 [08:47] <Abbc> xales
#2203 [08:48] <onobal> are any 1.3 servers up?
#2204 [08:48] <Abbc> errrr, any program to host classic server?
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#2206 [08:48] <Abbc> ...
#2207 [08:49] <Abbc> hello?
#2208 [08:49] <Pakmaan> Yep
#2209 [08:49] <Abbc> ^^^^
#2210 [08:49] <Pakmaan> My download game doesn't work
#2211 [08:49] <Abbc> loook up
#2212 [08:50] <Pakmaan> I saw but can't help you...
#2213 [08:50] <Abbc> and any minecraft offline app dosen't work because of the same error
#2214 [08:50] <Pakmaan> I new
#2215 [08:50] <Pakmaan> I'm new.
#2216 [08:50] <Abbc> and just the /play.jsp is the only thing i can play
#2217 [08:50] <Abbc> :(
#2218 [08:50] <Abbc> c'mon! anyone...
#2219 [08:51] <Pakmaan> My error is the java need net.minecraft.LaucherFrame.
#2220 [08:51] <Abbc> i updated gfx drivers but nothing
#2221 [08:51] <Pakmaan> But I have just my .exe
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#2223 [08:51] <Abbc> did u tired the jar?
#2224 [08:52] <Pakmaan> ?
#2225 [08:52] <Pakmaan> Don't understand :P
#2226 [08:52] <Abbc> jar version works on every plataform
#2227 [08:52] <Sh4d3R> Hello
#2228 [08:53] <Pakmaan> Jar is same Java ?
#2229 [08:53] <Abbc> hey, minecraft ssl launcher works
#2230 [08:53] <Abbc> yea, is the executable file
#2231 [08:53] <Pakmaan> Yeah, I have the executable file
#2232 [08:53] <Abbc> what?
#2233 [08:54] <Abbc> exe or jar?
#2234 [08:54] <Sh4d3R> Does sombody knows this problem: I play on a multiplayer server and when I set a block and I want to remove the block it shortly disapears and then the block comes back
#2235 [08:54] <Abbc> o.o?
#2236 [08:54] <Abbc> is because ur not allowed -.-
#2237 [08:55] <Cial> Sh4d3R: you might be in the spawn chunk
#2238 [08:55] <Sh4d3R> nono sometimes it works
#2239 [08:55] <Cial> are you an Op for the server?
#2240 [08:55] <Abbc> Where's notch????
#2241 [08:55] <Sh4d3R> well i ve got the rights to place and remove blocks
#2242 [08:56] <Pakmaan> exe
#2243 [08:56] <Pakmaan> I have the .exe
#2244 [08:56] <Cial> Abbc: i would hazard asleep
#2245 [08:56] <Abbc> uf, pal
#2246 [08:56] <Abbc> pakmaan: download the one that's for linux ok?
#2247 [08:56] <Abbc> that's jar
#2248 [08:56] <Cial> Sh4d3R: that is entirely diffrent than being an Op because only Ops can edit the spawn chunk
#2249 [08:56] <Abbc> download it and run it ok?
#2250 [08:57] <Sh4d3R> well then i have to tell it the admin kk thx
#2251 [08:57] <Pakmaan> I'm not on Linux, I'm on Windows, and friends download normal game, and run correctly...
#2252 [08:57] <Pakmaan> So, I'm gonna to try .
#2253 [08:57] <Abbc> whatever, it seems to work
#2254 [08:57] <Abbc> and it's better than exe
#2255 [08:57] <Pakmaan> Have you a link please ?
#2256 [08:58] <Pakmaan> My researchs give me for mobil apps :D
#2257 [08:58] <Abbc> just download the one from /download.jsp
#2258 [08:58] <Abbc> ugh
#2259 [08:58] <Abbc> that's j2me
#2260 [08:58] <Abbc> don't download
#2261 [08:58] <Pakmaan> Okay. I go to search myself so.
#2262 [08:58] <Abbc> download the jar, it makes no difference
#2263 [08:59] <Abbc> just a better perfomance
#2264 [08:59] <Abbc> the same game
#2265 [08:59] <Pakmaan> Hu, Where are you from ? I'm not very good to speak english :D
#2266 [08:59] <Abbc> it uses automatic settings
#2267 [08:59] <Abbc> and i am from argentina
#2268 [08:59] <Abbc> spanish
#2269 [09:00] <Abbc> it's on the minecraft webpage
#2270 [09:00] <Abbc> the download
#2271 [09:00] <Pakmaan> Ok, np. :P
#2272 [09:00] <Abbc> Where's Notch!?
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#2274 [09:00] <eLx> Hey
#2275 [09:00] <eLx> Anybody can pm me and help me a bit?:)
#2276 [09:00] <Abbc> Where's Notch!?
#2277 [09:00] <Abbc> c'mon,
#2278 [09:01] <Abbc> :(
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#2284 [09:31] <spliffbizzie> hi all
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#2286 [09:32] <spliffbizzie> anyone got sound problems after the updates, i got no sound when walking on gravel or sand or drowning, but can hear cows ?
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#2290 [09:39] <Wesseb> Hello. I have little problem. Well with SMP. I joined on server and big lag.
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#2292 [09:41] <leiger> anyone have a multiplayer server that I can connect to, to try it out ?
#2293 [09:42] <Wesseb> Maybe try with polish server, s.mycraft.pl
#2294 [09:42] <leiger> Thanks
#2295 [09:42] <Wesseb> i have lag too in this server.
#2296 [09:42] <Wesseb> No problem.
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#2298 [09:43] <InS4Ne> Hei guys is the login server down ?
#2299 [09:43] <leiger> "Failed to login: User not premium" :S Any suggestions?
#2300 [09:43] <Wesseb> login? :S :p
#2301 [09:43] <InS4Ne> ok sry down :D
#2302 [09:43] <leiger> This message popped up when trying to connect to s.mycraft.pl
#2303 [09:44] <leiger> Ah
#2304 [09:44] <InS4Ne> login server down :(
#2305 [09:44] <Wesseb> ^^
#2306 [09:45] <leiger> spent hours and hours just messing around in offline mode :P Thought I'd try multiplayer but guess I can't do that tonight then.
#2307 [09:45] <Wesseb> ^^
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#2309 [09:46] <Wesseb> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/1_3_01_severe_lag_on_windows_fine_in_singleplayer
#2310 [09:46] <Wesseb> Other guys have same problem.
#2311 [09:46] <joker3926> hi
#2312 [09:46] <joker3926> i need help
#2313 [09:47] <joker3926> i can't connect to minecraft.net
#2314 [09:48] <InS4Ne> Login server down
#2315 [09:48] <joker3926> oh ok thank you
#2316 [09:49] <Wesseb> Maybe Notch trying fix that SMP big lag problem.
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#2319 [09:51] <HotEspresso> hey everyone, i'm having trouble logging into minecraft...am i at the right place for help?
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#2321 [09:52] <Lauless> espresso, we all need help for that issue
#2322 [09:52] <nanicoar> Emotional support only.
#2323 [09:53] <Mikeh> anyone know how to setup a minecraft server to make it so it's survival/zombie type thing?
#2324 [09:53] <Mikeh> I just bought an 8 slot from multiplay and theres only 1 gametype option
#2325 [09:53] <HotEspresso> @lauless, i'm guessing the server is down or something?
#2326 [09:54] <HotEspresso> @mikeh, i remember seeing instructions for that somewhere, let me see if i can dig it up
#2327 [09:54] <Mikeh> ok thanks mate
#2328 [09:54] <HotEspresso> @mikeh, this SHOULD help
#2329 [09:54] <HotEspresso> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4TUqXJKyPM
#2330 [09:55] <Mikeh> thanks, i don't wanna make one on my pc though :D
#2331 [09:55] <HotEspresso> i literally JUST bought the game yesterday, so maybe not :P
#2332 [09:55] <Mikeh> I've bought one, i bought it yesterday too
#2333 [09:55] <HotEspresso> are you on mac or linux?
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#2335 [09:57] <Mikeh> i'm on windows
#2336 [09:57] <Mikeh> I bought a server, dedicated from multiplay
#2337 [09:58] <HotEspresso> ohhhhhhhh
#2338 [09:58] <HotEspresso> then i don't know how to help you there. try googling it
#2339 [09:58] <Wesseb> my friend bought dedicated server too
#2340 [09:58] <Wesseb> but i cant play
#2341 [09:58] <Wesseb> coz i have big lag on server
#2342 [09:58] <Wesseb> but ping is 33 ms
#2343 [09:58] <Wesseb> : |
#2344 [09:58] <HotEspresso> how's your internet speeds?
#2345 [09:58] <Wesseb> 1 mb/s
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#2347 [09:59] <Wesseb> but i never has lag on example s.mycraft.pl
#2348 [09:59] <HotEspresso> then you SHOULD be fine.
#2349 [09:59] <Wesseb> after update - BIG LAG
#2350 [09:59] <Wesseb> ;x
#2351 [09:59] <HotEspresso> it may be his internet
#2352 [10:00] <Wesseb> 39 people's have that same problem.
#2353 [10:00] <Wesseb> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/1_3_01_severe_lag_on_windows_fine_in_singleplayer
#2354 [10:00] <Wesseb> 40*
#2355 [10:00] <HotEspresso> ahh
#2356 [10:00] <HotEspresso> then it's probably not a slow connection issue.
#2357 [10:00] <Wesseb> yep
#2358 [10:00] <Wesseb> maybe client bug.
#2359 [10:00] <Mikeh> i've got 20mb/s
#2360 [10:00] <Wesseb> or SMP bug.
#2361 [10:00] <Mikeh> How do i make it so monsters spawn?
#2362 [10:01] <HotEspresso> probably. 20mb/s is fast.
#2363 [10:01] <Mikeh> I'm in the config file now, i also wanna make it hard mode
#2364 [10:01] <HotEspresso> that's surival mode, and they only spawn at night, from what i know
#2365 [10:01] <Mikeh> i don't know the commands
#2366 [10:01] <Mikeh> yeah, tahts what i want, survival mode
#2367 [10:01] <Mikeh> and theres a hard setting too
#2368 [10:01] <HotEspresso> you're out of luck, i have no idea.
#2369 [10:01] <Mikeh> assuming it makes the monsters like one shot you
#2370 [10:01] <HotEspresso> i know you can make it hard via the options menu
#2371 [10:02] <Mikeh> yeah, thats like a clientside single player though
#2372 [10:02] <Mikeh> dunno the command to make the server harder
#2373 [10:02] <Mikeh> or to make it survival mode
#2374 [10:02] <HotEspresso> google is your friend
#2375 [10:02] <Wesseb> and uncle
#2376 [10:02] <Wesseb> :D
#2377 [10:03] <HotEspresso> we must be related, because i'm starting to think google's my brother
#2378 [10:06] <_br_> hey there, changed machine and am stuck again with a Intel HD Graphics card. Yay. So lwjgl is giving me some interesting erros again. (Had this problem before but could avoid it due to switchable gfx card to nvidia). This time I can't though :(. Here is a pastie with all debugging output and stuff I tried... http://pastie.org/1602438 Help much appreciated..
#2379 [10:07] <_br_> (searched everywhere but to no luck)
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#2381 [10:08] <Abbc> hello,
#2382 [10:08] <Abbc> updating video dosen't solutions anything
#2383 [10:09] <Abbc> but it unleashed a *bug* with itunes visualiser
#2384 [10:09] <Abbc> now i see whithe spheres instead of black ones
#2385 [10:09] <Abbc> HEY!
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#2387 [10:10] <Fraenir> lo
#2388 [10:11] <Fraenir> i'm having a little issue, since i've updated to the new launch i keep getting the message "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2389 [10:11] <Fraenir> is anyone else getting this?
#2390 [10:11] <Abbc> notch at #minecraft
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#2393 [10:14] <Fraenir> ah guess so
#2394 [10:15] <Fraenir> hmm also, i've seen lots of minecraft pictures and videos with something that seems HDR, are they edited or is it something that's been implemented but i'm somehow missing o.o?
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#2396 [10:16] <HotEspresso> @fraenir
#2397 [10:16] <HotEspresso> i think i have a solution
#2398 [10:16] <Fraenir> for the connection issue?
#2399 [10:16] <HotEspresso> YES
#2400 [10:16] <HotEspresso> i just got mine
#2401 [10:16] <HotEspresso> it's a problem with the launcher
#2402 [10:17] <Fraenir> oh i see
#2403 [10:17] <HotEspresso> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=192343
#2404 [10:17] <HotEspresso> wait
#2405 [10:17] <HotEspresso> that isn't it
#2406 [10:17] <Fraenir> k
#2407 [10:17] <HotEspresso> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=191954
#2408 [10:17] <HotEspresso> that one
#2409 [10:17] <HotEspresso> let me know if it works, i'll be back in a few
#2410 [10:18] <Fraenir> sure thing, thanks i'll give it a try
#2411 [10:18] <HotEspresso> no problem
#2412 [10:21] <Fraenir> the file seems a little too "hot"
#2413 [10:21] <Fraenir> i'll wait for an official release thx
#2414 [10:22] <xales> HotEspresso: We don't support breaking the Minecraft terms of service in here, do not post a link to that again or you will be banned from the channel
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#2418 [10:26] <Jonty> Hey
#2419 [10:26] <xales> hi
#2420 [10:26] <Jonty> Anyone else getting Cannot connect to minecraft.net?
#2421 [10:26] <Jonty> The website is working fine but MC Launcher throws me that error
#2422 [10:26] <Jonty> Been workin fine earlier
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#2424 [10:27] <Abbc> hey, use an old one
#2425 [10:27] <Jonty> I'm using 1.2
#2426 [10:27] <Jonty> 1.3 causes problems
#2427 [10:27] <Abbc> jonty: troubles with new one is because it uses https
#2428 [10:27] <Abbc> the old one using?
#2429 [10:27] <Jonty> Yeah
#2430 [10:27] <xales> ?? mc.net/auth
#2431 [10:27] <xales> gah
#2432 [10:27] <xales> what is it called
#2433 [10:28] <xales> ?? mc.net/authdown
#2434 [10:28] <HotEspresso> @fraenir, what do you mean by "hot"?
#2435 [10:28] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#2436 [10:28] <Abbc> lol
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#2438 [10:28] <Marth> Hi there
#2439 [10:28] <HotEspresso> use 1.2
#2440 [10:28] <HotEspresso> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=191954
#2441 [10:28] <Marth> I still can't connect to minecraft.net
#2442 [10:28] <Marth> How to fix it?
#2443 [10:28] <Jonty> VoxelHead: It's been down for a while
#2444 [10:28] <VoxelHead> Jonty, I am a bot.
#2445 [10:28] <Abbc> errr where's notch????
#2446 [10:28] <HotEspresso> @marth, xales, use the old launcher
#2447 [10:28] <HotEspresso> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=191954
#2448 [10:28] * xales kicked HotEspresso from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I said do not link it again)
#2449 [10:28] <Marth> thx :)
#2450 [10:28] <xales> hint: downloading that is breaking the Minecraft license agreement
#2451 [10:28] <xales> enjoy.
#2452 [10:29] <Jonty> Which means you'd get banned, correct?
#2453 [10:29] <xales> possibly
#2454 [10:29] <Abbc> yes
#2455 [10:29] <xales> banned from this channel, yes
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#2457 [10:30] <Jonty> Hmm /authdown aint showing for me
#2458 [10:30] <xales> what?
#2459 [10:30] <Marth> It doesn't work with the old launcher
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#2461 [10:30] <Jonty> No what Voxel linked to
#2462 [10:31] <xales> what?
#2463 [10:31] <Donny> Hello, I just downloaded the new launcher, and every time I try to connect, it says it cannot connect to minecraft.net, any help?
#2464 [10:31] <xales> there's no links in that entry
#2465 [10:31] <Jonty> <@VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#2466 [10:31] <xales> ??> Donny mc.net/authdown
#2467 [10:31] <VoxelHead> Donny: (mc.net/authdown) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#2468 [10:31] <Abbc> uhhh
#2469 [10:31] <xales> Jonty: what isn't showing up?
#2470 [10:32] <Jonty> minecraft.net/authdown
#2471 [10:32] <Donny> How do I connect to that?
#2472 [10:33] <_br_> Does anyone have advice regarding Minecraft & Intel HD Graphics card. Lwjgl is giving me some interesting erros again. (Had this problem before but could avoid it due to switchable gfx card to nvidia). This time I can't though :(. Here is a pastie with all debugging output and stuff I tried... http://pastie.org/1602438 Help much appreciated..
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#2474 [10:33] <Jonty> Oh and my Minecraft (when workin, both in Singleplayer and Multiplayer), black screens after like 15-20 mins
#2475 [10:33] <Jonty> Very randin
#2476 [10:33] <Jonty> random*
#2477 [10:33] <Jonty> Any ideas?
#2478 [10:34] <Donny> When I enter the link into my browser, it says it cannot display the page, am I doin it wrong?
#2479 [10:34] <Jonty> Donny, don't think it exists
#2480 [10:34] <Donny> Well where am I supposed to put the link then?
#2481 [10:34] <Jonty> xales: any ideas on that?
#2482 [10:34] <Jonty> Latest GFX drivers etc
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#2484 [10:34] <xales> Jonty, Donny: http://minecraft.net/game/
#2485 [10:35] <xales> the first thing isn't a link
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#2487 [10:35] <xales> it shouldn't be showing up that way
#2488 [10:35] <xales> _br_: Minecraft doesn't work well with Intel cards, if it all
#2489 [10:35] <Jonty> xales: that shows as stuck on done loading
#2490 [10:36] <Chris> is the server still down?
#2491 [10:36] <Chris> for errbody
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#2493 [10:36] <Krapinou> hello everybody
#2494 [10:36] <_br_> xales: Hm, thank for the hint. Bummer :(
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#2496 [10:36] <Jonty> Chris, seems like it
#2497 [10:36] <RemixMiner> #Bukkit
#2498 [10:37] <Chris> okeedokee
#2499 [10:37] <xales> Jonty: try this
#2500 [10:37] <xales> ??> Jonty win/reinst
#2501 [10:37] <VoxelHead> Jonty: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2502 [10:37] <VoxelHead> Jonty: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2503 [10:37] <Jonty> Tried that already
#2504 [10:37] <dfrnz> minecraft works great on my intel card.
#2505 [10:37] <Krapinou> I can't logging in, it's normaly ?
#2506 [10:37] <Jonty> Because I tried 1.2 from a different install
#2507 [10:37] <Jonty> I have both installed
#2508 [10:37] <Jonty> Both Black screen
#2509 [10:37] <xales> ??> Krapinou mc.net/down
#2510 [10:37] <VoxelHead> Krapinou: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#2511 [10:37] <VoxelHead> Krapinou: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#2512 [10:37] <xales> Jonty: both what installed?
#2513 [10:38] <Jonty> I tried 1.3, still black screen'd and my fav servers aint got 1.3 yet
#2514 [10:38] <Jonty> So I got 1.2
#2515 [10:38] <Krapinou> okay, thank you :)
#2516 [10:38] <Jonty> Which works but still black screens after a while
#2517 [10:38] <Jonty> I have tried complete reinstalls etc
#2518 [10:38] <Jonty> It started after installing Singleplayer Commands which I removed etc
#2519 [10:38] <Krapinou> Which works but still black screens after a while <<< I have the same problem
#2520 [10:38] <Donny> OH, so you guys are saying the website is down. I thought you meant like, minecraft.net/authdown is where I should go.
#2521 [10:39] <Jonty> Krapinou, what GFX card?
#2522 [10:39] <Krapinou> I search
#2523 [10:39] <Jonty> Intel/AMD/Nvidia?
#2524 [10:39] <Donny> xales, is this true?
#2525 [10:39] <xales> Donny: yes
#2526 [10:39] <Krapinou> nvidia GTX ...
#2527 [10:39] <Jonty> Hmm I am using Nvidia GeForce
#2528 [10:39] <Jonty> Nvidia related, xales?
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#2530 [10:40] <xales> Jonty: No, but try turning down the view distance on it
#2531 [10:40] <Jonty> I will try (when server is up again ^^)
#2532 [10:40] <Donny> Is playing offline on the launcher the same game?
#2533 [10:40] <Jonty> Yeah but without multiplayer
#2534 [10:40] <xales> ^
#2535 [10:40] <Donny> Oh, that's fine. I don't play MP.
#2536 [10:40] <Donny> Thanks.
#2537 [10:41] <Jonty> Loading Multiplayer throws up a "User Not Premium" Error.
#2538 [10:41] <Jonty> Aka hasn't auth'd correctly on login
#2539 [10:41] <curmet> my game didnt start on this pc it always stucks at the "mojang" screen what could i do?
#2540 [10:42] <xales> ??> curmet win/reinst
#2541 [10:43] <VoxelHead> curmet: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2542 [10:43] <VoxelHead> curmet: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2544 [10:43] <curmet> thx
#2545 [10:43] <Toune> So it's me Krapinou, do you think I need To do an update ?
#2546 [10:44] <xales> Toune: try turning the view distance down
#2547 [10:44] <Toune> Ok, I try
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#2549 [10:45] <Toune> and, When i am in my inventory, the game close automatically, why ?
#2550 [10:46] <xales> do you have any mods installed?
#2551 [10:49] <Jonty> ATTENTION: SERVER IS NOW BACK ONLINE
#2552 [10:49] <Jonty> You can now login :D
#2553 [10:50] <Toune> no, i have no mods installed
#2554 [10:51] <xales> ??> Toune win/reinst
#2555 [10:51] <VoxelHead> Toune: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2556 [10:51] <VoxelHead> Toune: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2557 [10:53] <Toune> i try
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#2562 [10:55] <pico> mh i got a huge area covered with dirt, i got water canals everywhere, but even after some days no grass starts to grow :\
#2563 [10:55] <xales> Grass doesn't grow from water - it spreads from other grass
#2564 [10:55] <pico> mhh
#2565 [10:55] <xales> you have to connect the dirt to an existing source of grass
#2566 [10:55] <pico> damnit
#2567 [10:56] <pico> made a 25 blocks high platform in a middle of an ocean, land is more than 100 blocks away
#2568 [10:57] <Toune> I deleted the bin directory, but nothing have change :/
#2569 [10:58] <Toune> when my cursor is on my raw porkshop, minecraft crash
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#2571 [10:59] <xales> Toune: you are sure you are using the official, paid version (not a pirated one), and no mods?
#2572 [11:00] <Toune> Sur! i bought it, i just have a jesus skin
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#2574 [11:01] <xales> Just making sure, some people come here without buying it and want us to help them play without buying
#2575 [11:02] <Toune> some
#2576 [11:02] <Toune> It's a little game and 14.95€ it's not a mountain :p
#2577 [11:02] <xales> some people think it is :(
#2578 [11:03] <Toune> it's the world :)
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#2583 [11:14] <Nietecht> Hi, anyone feels like trying to help me? Basically: MC (from jar) quits on the main menu after a (rather short) random amount of time and guaranteed when I try to load a world/connect to a server. Running Ubuntu. I'm also running a server a friend can connect to successfully without issues
#2584 [11:15] <xales> Did this start with the last update?
#2585 [11:16] <Nietecht> Hm, no, strangely, it's been like that for a long time, but then not so long ago it worked (near the end of 1.2), but stopped working again before 1.3 (and still doesn't work now)
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#2588 [11:16] <xales> Try copying the 'saves' folder out of .minecraft
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#2590 [11:16] <xales> ~/.minecraft rather
#2591 [11:16] <Nietecht> Uhu
#2592 [11:21] <dopeghoti> So did I read that tweet right? Essentially, "Oops; left switch for the new auth server in the 'off' position."?
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#2595 [11:22] <Zebuuu> Hi, yesterday i bought minecraft and i can't play to it. In the launcher i fail to login and i have " user not premium". On the website, on my account i have always "Buy". Anyone have this problem? plz
#2596 [11:23] <sardo97> Minecraft is working now.
#2597 [11:23] <Kealper> Zebuuu: how long ago did you buy the game?
#2598 [11:23] <dopeghoti> Zebuuu: did you buy with a credit card, or with PayPal?
#2599 [11:23] <Kealper> wow
#2600 [11:23] <Kealper> totally didn't read that lol
#2601 [11:23] <dopeghoti> Kealper: ?
#2602 [11:23] <sardo97> U guys... Imnecraft IS working.
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#2604 [11:24] <Zebuuu> I bought it yersterday in the afternoon by card
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#2606 [11:24] <Kealper> "Hi, yesterday i bought minecraft..." and i said asked when he bought it lol
#2607 [11:24] <Kealper> i missed the first part
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#2609 [11:24] <mizzi311> hi
#2610 [11:24] <Zebuuu> hi
#2611 [11:24] <Kealper> sardo97: was that a statement or a question?
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#2613 [11:25] <sardo97> Statement.
#2614 [11:25] <dopeghoti> Zebuuu: There were some problems with the server yesterday that might have delayed purchase processing. If it's not active yet by the end of the day, send an email to daniel@mojang.com with your payment confirmation details and you'll get sorted.
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#2616 [11:25] <Kealper> ok, thanks for telling us, but it's been working since late last night :/
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#2618 [11:25] <sardo97> Well, I just woke up...
#2619 [11:25] <jasper> I can't start minecraft
#2620 [11:26] <Kealper> jasper: could you be more specific?
#2621 [11:26] <Nietecht> xales: Any other suggestions? Moving out saves, or even redownloading everything don't change anything sadly.
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#2623 [11:26] <mizzi311> daniel will answer ?
#2624 [11:26] <Snaggo> halp.
#2625 [11:26] <jasper> when i try to start minecraft a sign pops up saying "java could not create the exutable java file"
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#2627 [11:27] <Kealper> mizzi311: turns out payment@mojang.com is working again, if you wanted to forward your email you sent to daniel to that one :/
#2628 [11:27] <th_great_max> hey
#2629 [11:27] <Snaggo> after the update when i join the server i've been playing on for the last days i just keep on falling for a while.
#2630 [11:27] <Kealper> i guess i was supposed to direct you at payment@mojang.com now, sorry for that :/
#2631 [11:28] <th_great_max> how can i change my email to my account?
#2632 [11:28] <mizzi311> i wrote payment 19 hours ago
#2633 [11:28] <Kealper> th_great_max: you can't right now
#2634 [11:28] <Abbc> jasper: it's because u must have admin rights
#2635 [11:28] <Snaggo> after that i usually spawn somewhere and am able to move, but not interact with anything o_O
#2636 [11:28] <Zebuuu> Ok dopehoti, thank for your help, but i haven't received the payment confirmation by mail and my bank account has not been charged yet
#2637 [11:28] <th_great_max> why?
#2638 [11:28] <Zebuuu> *dopeghoti
#2639 [11:28] <Snaggo> and my chat messages are waaay behind lag-kind-of-way
#2640 [11:28] <Kealper> Snaggo: sounds like a connection problem to that server
#2641 [11:28] <th_great_max> ive emailed the support but no answear
#2642 [11:28] <mizzi311> me to
#2643 [11:28] <jasper> i noticed that I wrote a little bit wrong now.
#2644 [11:29] <Kealper> jasper: have you tried redownloading the launcher?
#2645 [11:29] <mizzi311> and daniel and payment
#2646 [11:29] <Snaggo> but everyrone else on the server are fine and when i played from school everything was ok.
#2647 [11:29] <mizzi311> now answer
#2648 [11:29] <dopeghoti> Zebuuu: it might be your bank delaying things too; give them a call to ensure they didn't think it was a fraudulent transaction (international purchases get more scrutiny)
#2649 [11:29] <Kealper> mizzi311: nothing we can do in here then, you'll just haev to wait :/
#2650 [11:29] <Kealper> have*
#2651 [11:29] <mizzi311> nearly 5 days now
#2652 [11:29] <Zebuuu> ok ty
#2653 [11:30] <jasper> the sign says "could not create the Java virtual machine"
#2654 [11:30] <th_great_max> does notch join this channel?
#2655 [11:30] <Snaggo> ....and later on I usually drop from the server :F
#2656 [11:30] <Kealper> got twitter? just tweet a tweet with all Mojang's names in there asking if they got your email :P
#2657 [11:30] <Kealper> th_great_max: not really
#2658 [11:30] <jasper> yes i have tried downloading the new launcher
#2659 [11:30] <th_great_max> i have wrote to notch :/
#2660 [11:30] <Kealper> th_great_max: he does go into #minecraft when he does get on irc though
#2661 [11:30] <Kealper> jasper: has it ever worked before?
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#2663 [11:31] <th_great_max> in twitter
#2664 [11:31] <mizzi311> me to
#2665 [11:31] <mizzi311> me too
#2666 [11:31] <jasper> not on this computer. it worked on my old computer.
#2667 [11:31] <Kealper> th_great_max: i have heard that Mojang would like to allow you to change your usernames and emails farther on down the road
#2668 [11:31] <Abbc> how old is that computer?
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#2670 [11:31] <Abbc> and at that time
#2671 [11:31] <mizzi311> so i have to wait
#2672 [11:31] <Kealper> jasper: try going to http://java.com and reinstalling java
#2673 [11:31] <mizzi311> but i wont pay 15$ for nothing
#2674 [11:32] <mizzi311> ok ive payed 15$
#2675 [11:32] <Abbc> guys
#2676 [11:32] <Abbc> http://sourceforge.net/projects/bzflag/
#2677 [11:32] <jasper> that computer was 3 years old
#2678 [11:32] <th_great_max> good thx for the information
#2679 [11:32] <Abbc> oh,
#2680 [11:32] <Kealper> mizzi311: you could chargeback and try again
#2681 [11:32] <mizzi311> but i dont get anything
#2682 [11:32] <Abbc> i am worse then :(
#2683 [11:32] <hoppsan> Guys, I can hardly play this game, and It keeps giving me "Java SE" error.... Help?
#2684 [11:32] <dopeghoti> ?? error
#2685 [11:32] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#2686 [11:32] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#2687 [11:33] <jasper> and mow i have a new and alot better one, except minecraft not working :(
#2688 [11:33] <mizzi311> i could chanrgeback my money from majong and try again?
#2689 [11:33] <Kealper> jasper: you tried reinstalling java?
#2690 [11:33] <mizzi311> how
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#2692 [11:33] <Kealper> mizzi311: did you use paypal or credit card?
#2693 [11:33] <mizzi311> paypal
#2694 [11:33] * dopeghoti goes to work
#2694 [11:33] <Kealper> paypal has an easy chargeback option right in it
#2695 [11:33] <Kealper> although, i'm not sure where it's at
#2696 [11:34] <jasper> I'm trying atm. still installing
#2697 [11:34] <jasper> i did not help.
#2698 [11:34] <Kealper> jasper: even after reinstalling, it still does it?
#2699 [11:34] <hoppsan> Java(TM)Platform SE binary has stopped working
#2700 [11:35] <Kealper> jasper: what is your computer specs?
#2701 [11:35] <hoppsan> Win7 64 bit 4gig ram and a i5 processor
#2702 [11:35] <Kealper> hoppsan: when does it say that, right as soon as you run it?
#2703 [11:35] <hoppsan> like 20-40 sec after i open it up
#2704 [11:36] <Kealper> hoppsan: have you reinstalled minecraft?
#2705 [11:36] <hoppsan> yes i cleared temp and appdata minecraft thing
#2706 [11:36] <hoppsan> redownloaded and updated
#2707 [11:36] <Kealper> hoppsan: and java? have you reinstalled that?
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#2709 [11:36] <hoppsan> i have the up to date java but i can try to reinstall it
#2710 [11:37] <Kealper> hoppsan: try that, it might have something that is wrong with it
#2711 [11:37] <jasper> win xp 32-bit | graphic 1 gb | ram 5 gb | CPU quadcore 3.2 ghz | 500 gb Hard. space
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#2713 [11:37] <jasper> ram 4 gb*
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#2715 [11:38] <Kealper> jasper: service pack 2 or 3 for windows xp?
#2716 [11:38] <jasper> service pack 3
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#2718 [11:38] <Matoso> hey
#2719 [11:38] * Kealper hits google for a sec
#2719 [11:38] <Ian_Corne> Hello, I'm having a problem with my server, No1 can login (from me and my friends) it always kicks people out with the msg: you need to login (on the server log) and then the client just crashes/closes
#2720 [11:38] <xales> jasper: do you have any antivirus programs running?
#2721 [11:38] <Matoso> i'm having issues with mc
#2722 [11:38] <xales> Ian_Corne: Wrong server software
#2723 [11:38] <xales> Matoso: what issue?
#2724 [11:38] <Kealper> derp....didn't even think to ask that
#2725 [11:38] <xales> Ian_Corne: That is the Classic server
#2726 [11:38] <jasper> I don't have any virus prog. at all
#2727 [11:38] <Ian_Corne> xales: I downloaded it just now..
#2728 [11:39] <xales> Ian_Corne: You downloaded it from the Classic server list, and thus, got the Classic software
#2729 [11:39] <Matoso> i have a huge delay when i play on my friend's private mc server
#2730 [11:39] <xales> the Beta software is at http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2731 [11:39] <Kealper> Matoso: his internet must not be good enough
#2732 [11:39] <sardo97> It's his server then.
#2733 [11:39] <Ian_Corne> ooh
#2734 [11:39] <Ian_Corne> thanks!
#2735 [11:39] <Abbc> how do i get a classic server software?
#2736 [11:39] <Abbc> and where
#2737 [11:39] <Matoso> other players on his server don't have any delay
#2738 [11:39] <Kealper> i'll give you a link Abbc
#2739 [11:39] <xales> Abbc: If your computer can't run the Minecraft client
#2740 [11:40] <xales> there is no way in hell it will run the server, just so you know
#2741 [11:40] <Kealper> Abbc: http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip
#2742 [11:40] <xales> but, try if you really want ._.
#2743 [11:40] <Abbc> it can run
#2744 [11:40] <Abbc> as far i know
#2745 [11:40] <Abbc> is not the same
#2746 [11:40] <Abbc> or is?
#2747 [11:40] <xales> it can `run` it, barely
#2748 [11:40] <xales> but it doesn't actually work
#2749 [11:40] <Kealper> O.o
#2750 [11:40] <Abbc> i am looking for classic hosting
#2751 [11:40] <xales> Kealper: It's a computer from 2003. 1.7GHz processor, Intel 915 GMA
#2752 [11:40] <Abbc> server soft
#2753 [11:41] <Kealper> that's a serious gaming rig right there :o
#2754 [11:41] <Abbc> it's centrino chipset
#2755 [11:41] <Abbc> the gpu haves 128mb
#2756 [11:41] <xales> Abbc: Go ahead and try to run a server on that, don't be surprised when it doesn't work or lags massively
#2757 [11:41] <Abbc> java + ogl is ****
#2758 [11:41] <xales> Abbc, actually, your computer is
#2759 [11:42] <xales> you can't expect Minecraft, or any other modern game, to run on it
#2760 [11:42] <jasper> any one has any suggetions on my problem?
#2761 [11:42] <xales> jasper: I already said
#2762 [11:42] <Kealper> jasper: i'm drawing a blank :/
#2763 [11:42] <xales> "Do you have any antivirus running"?
#2764 [11:42] <Abbc> ah, it had lagged too much because it even freezes client
#2765 [11:42] <Kealper> xales: he said none
#2766 [11:42] <jasper> and i said no,
#2767 [11:42] <xales> oh
#2768 [11:42] <xales> I didn't see, sorry
#2769 [11:42] <Abbc> in alpha moments
#2770 [11:42] <Kealper> Abbc: how much ram does your computer have?
#2771 [11:42] <Abbc> and in another computer
#2772 [11:42] <Abbc> 758mb ram
#2773 [11:43] <Abbc> actual one
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#2775 [11:43] <Kealper> that is not going to run a client and a server at once
#2776 [11:43] <Abbc> aw
#2777 [11:43] <Abbc> the other one
#2778 [11:43] <xales> Kealper, it doesn't even launch Beta
#2779 [11:43] <Abbc> had 1gb
#2780 [11:43] <Ian_Corne> thanks for the help xales
#2781 [11:43] <Abbc> now
#2782 [11:43] <Kealper> a classic server needs 512mb of ram to itself
#2783 [11:43] <Abbc> aw
#2784 [11:43] <Abbc> it can
#2785 [11:43] <Abbc> ok,
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#2787 [11:45] <th_great_max> ?
#2788 [11:45] <Kealper> why do people say stuff like "serverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" when they mean to say "serveeeeeeeeeeer"
#2789 [11:45] <Kealper> th_great_max: hmm?
#2790 [11:45] <hoppsan> after the java reinstall it works perfect
#2791 [11:45] <xales> Kealper, it took like 15 minutes and several people just to convince him that a new game couldn't run on a computer, a laptop no less, from 2003
#2792 [11:45] <hoppsan> tnx guys
#2793 [11:46] <Kealper> xales: ._.
#2794 [11:46] <xales> especially with those horrific specs
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#2796 [11:46] <jasper> thanks for taking time anyhow guys!
#2797 [11:47] <onobal> pls can anyone give me a ip adress for a server who is up to date? always i try to join any server, i get the massage" outdated server"
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#2799 [11:47] <Kealper> onobal: a lot of servers will not be updated yet, since a lot of them are waiting for mods to update
#2800 [11:48] <Kealper> onobal: you can type /join #smp if you want to see if there are any updated severs advertised in there
#2801 [11:48] <onobal> any option for a downgrade?
#2802 [11:48] <onobal> k thx
#2803 [11:48] <Kealper> it's possible but hard
#2804 [11:50] <Kealper> alright i'm afk now
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#2811 [12:07] <Mik38> hi
#2812 [12:07] <Mik38> I've got a problem
#2813 [12:07] <Mik38> when I log out it doesn't work
#2814 [12:08] <xales> log out?
#2815 [12:08] <Mik38> and I want to connect with annother account on the minecraft website
#2816 [12:08] <Mik38> on the website
#2817 [12:08] <Mik38> minecraft.net
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#2820 [12:09] <Trance015> Hi
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#2822 [12:09] <Trance015> I have a question.
#2823 [12:09] <Mik38> hi
#2824 [12:09] <Trance015> What program would I use to change my Spawn point into my Castle?
#2825 [12:09] <Trance015> Also, is it a bug for when you use the bed, your crops don't grow (They have a torch and water)
#2826 [12:09] <relsqui> Mik38: it's not a fix per se but if you shut down your browser completely and restart it that should do it
#2827 [12:09] <relsqui> Trance015: it's not a bug exactly. time doesn't pass while you're in bed, the game time just updates to morning
#2828 [12:10] <relsqui> ores don't smelt either
#2829 [12:10] <Trance015> Shouldn't they do something about that, it's not realisitic
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#2831 [12:10] <relsqui> so it's not like night is going by very quickly, it's actually not happening
#2832 [12:10] <relsqui> afaik it's a design choice
#2833 [12:10] <Mik38> yes but that's doing since yesterday...
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#2835 [12:10] <Mik38> (sorry for my english if someone speak french ^^)
#2836 [12:10] <relsqui> as for changing your spawn point, you won't be able to move it *inside* a building--people spawn on the highest point available within the spawn zone
#2837 [12:10] <relsqui> so they'd spawn on the roof
#2838 [12:11] <Trance015> That's fine
#2839 [12:11] <Trance015> Just close to my building then
#2840 [12:11] <relsqui> I think mcedit will do it--but you could also wait a little bit for the second part of the bed update
#2841 [12:11] <Trance015> Second part?
#2842 [12:11] <relsqui> at which point players can set their own spawn based on where they slept last
#2843 [12:11] <Kramis12> Hi, when people are done i was wondering if i could get some help.
#2844 [12:11] <Trance015> When should I be expecting that?
#2845 [12:12] <relsqui> I don't remember, it was something like a week or a few weeks eta though
#2846 [12:12] <Trance015> Okay, thanks for your help. I apprciate it.
#2847 [12:12] <relsqui> check official blog stuff, that'll probably have the estimate
#2848 [12:12] <xales> Kramis12: with?
#2849 [12:12] <relsqui> no problem
#2850 [12:12] <Mik38> i come back
#2851 [12:12] <BurnZeZ> xales: You make games?
#2852 [12:12] <Kramis12> I keep getting a fatal error (2) everytime i try to update
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#2854 [12:13] <Mik38> yo
#2855 [12:13] <Mik38> it doesn't work.......
#2856 [12:13] <xales> BurnZeZ: ?
#2857 [12:14] <xales> Kramis12: Where do you see it?
#2858 [12:14] <xales> when
#2859 [12:14] <Kramis12> Well, i kit login, and it asks me if I want to update, and i say yes, and i get an error
#2860 [12:14] <BurnZeZ> xales: Just because you're in #c++ and #minecraft
#2861 [12:15] <xales> Kramis12: try this
#2862 [12:15] <xales> ?? win/reinst
#2863 [12:15] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2864 [12:15] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2865 [12:15] <xales> BurnZeZ: I'm also in many other channels :)
#2866 [12:15] <xales> many are +s :P
#2867 [12:15] <tyron> Hello, I'm allways getting an "Connection Lost - Timed out" after a minute of "Logging in..." if i try to connect to a friends Server. Server has bukkit and is in "offline=true" mode - 3 other people can connect and play without any problems. When Minecraft.net is online i can sometimes connect but right now it's impossible again. Is there a way to fix this / bypass the "logging in..."?
#2868 [12:15] <tyron> (i tried: reinstalling minecraft(appdata,client);opening all ports on my firewall and my router
#2869 [12:15] <xales> actually
#2870 [12:15] <xales> tyron: can you connect to other servers?
#2871 [12:16] <xales> BurnZeZ: count the channels it shows me being in to you (/whois)
#2872 [12:16] <BurnZeZ> lol
#2873 [12:16] <xales> I'm in 25
#2874 [12:16] <xales> I want to know how many you see
#2875 [12:16] <xales> :)
#2876 [12:16] <BurnZeZ> Holy crap.
#2877 [12:16] <BurnZeZ> Nice.
#2878 [12:16] <xales> I'm technically in 24, because #help doesn't count against the channel count
#2879 [12:16] <Kramis12> Um, sorry, how do i get that folder to stop bieng hidden
#2880 [12:16] <xales> Kramis12: it isn't hidden if you get to it with the method above
#2881 [12:17] <BurnZeZ> xales: I hope you're logging every channel.
#2882 [12:17] <xales> BurnZeZ: indeed I am
#2883 [12:17] <BurnZeZ> You'll be the IRC library of congress.
#2884 [12:17] <Mik38> ok so i finally connect with my good account on minecraft.net and i can't change my skin..................!!
#2885 [12:17] <Kramis12> Unfortunatley, i did so, and its not there
#2886 [12:17] <xales> Mik38: you can, it just doesn't tell you that you did
#2887 [12:17] <Mik38> yes but when i connect on minecraft i've not my skin....
#2888 [12:18] <tyron> @xales can you give me the ip of a server to try?
#2889 [12:18] <Kramis12> Theres no .minecraft folder, regretably
#2890 [12:18] <xales> tyron: smp.shadow-craft.net
#2891 [12:18] <xales> Kramis12: You are looking in C:\Users\(yourname)\AppData\Roaming?
#2892 [12:19] <xales> Mik38: why can't you change it on the website?
#2893 [12:19] <xales> what does it say
#2894 [12:19] <Kramis12> i dunno about roamin. I typed in %AppData% into the run command
#2895 [12:19] <Mik38> sorry in fact it work....
#2896 [12:19] <Mik38> so thank you
#2897 [12:19] <tyron> @@xales smp.shadow-craft.net works
#2898 [12:19] <Mik38> and sorry for the time lost xD
#2899 [12:19] <Mik38> ++
#2900 [12:19] <tyron> so where is the problem?
#2901 [12:19] <xales> Mik38: no problem. have fun
#2902 [12:20] <xales> tyron: it's with the server - have the admin try deleting the .dat file for you(note that it will reset your inventory and position in the world)
#2903 [12:20] <xales> Kramis12: that's...odd
#2904 [12:20] <Kramis12> yea
#2905 [12:20] <xales> Kramis12: you are playing Minecraft, downloaded, right?
#2906 [12:20] <Kramis12> yes
#2907 [12:20] <Kramis12> see
#2908 [12:20] <Kramis12> the weird part is
#2909 [12:20] <xales> try playing it in the browser, http://minecraft.net/game/
#2910 [12:20] <Kramis12> Same problem happens
#2911 [12:21] <Kramis12> heres the weird part
#2912 [12:21] <Kramis12> i can type in
#2913 [12:21] <Kramis12> %AppData%/.mincraft and the folder opens
#2914 [12:21] <Kramis12> but theres no bin
#2915 [12:21] <Kramis12> and i can type in %appdata%/.minecraft/bin and it opens
#2916 [12:21] <Kramis12> but its empty
#2917 [12:22] <xales> hrm
#2918 [12:22] <xales> what username are you trying to log in with?
#2919 [12:22] <Kramis12> Kramis12
#2920 [12:23] <xales> one sec
#2921 [12:24] <xales> Kramis12: it's the official download from minecraft.net, right? not some pirated version?
#2922 [12:24] <Kramis12> right off of the site
#2923 [12:24] <xales> oh, I might know what it is...
#2924 [12:24] <xales> are you using Vista?
#2925 [12:25] <Kramis12> Nope....
#2926 [12:25] <Kramis12> Xp
#2927 [12:25] <xales> any antivirus running?
#2928 [12:25] <Kramis12> uuuhhh
#2929 [12:25] <Kramis12> Avast>
#2930 [12:25] <xales> Avast isn't known to cause issues
#2931 [12:25] <xales> hmm
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#2933 [12:26] <xales> Kramis12: download the new launcher (http://minecraft.net/download.jsp)
#2934 [12:26] <xales> open that, and beneath "login" click "options"
#2935 [12:26] <xales> and "force update"
#2936 [12:27] <Kramis12> yeap done
#2937 [12:27] <xales> does that crash it?
#2938 [12:27] <Kramis12> login?
#2939 [12:27] <xales> yeah
#2940 [12:28] <Kramis12> Its not a crash, but yea does the same thing
#2941 [12:28] <Kramis12> It goes FAILED TO LAUNCH
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#2944 [12:29] <tyron> @@xales file deleted and still impossible for me to connect
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#2947 [12:30] <D3RGPS31> Minecraft crashes after updating v:
#2948 [12:30] <xales> tyron: Have them try running it as a plain server, no mods, default settings
#2949 [12:30] <xales> and see if you can connect
#2950 [12:30] <xales> D3RGPS31: are you on a Mac?
#2951 [12:31] <D3RGPS31> xales: gnu/linux
#2952 [12:31] <xales> D3RGPS31: Copy the 'saves' directory out of ~/.minecraft (just copy it anywhere else) and see if it works
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#2954 [12:31] <Livity> Hello
#2955 [12:31] <dopeghoti> D3RGPS31: Oracle Java or OpenJDK?
#2956 [12:31] <D3RGPS31> dopeghoti: sun java :3
#2957 [12:32] <dopeghoti> Debian-based distro?
#2958 [12:32] <D3RGPS31> xales: no work v:
#2959 [12:32] <D3RGPS31> dopeghoti: yes
#2960 [12:32] <dopeghoti> ?? java/linux/debian
#2961 [12:32] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#2962 [12:32] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: To install it, `sudo apt-get sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
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#2964 [12:32] <dopeghoti> (specifically, the second command)
#2965 [12:32] <D3RGPS31> dopeghoti: did that v:
#2966 [12:32] <Livity> Is there anyway to make your "singleplayer" world to multiplayer? I wish to use this seed thing in multiplayer too..
#2967 [12:32] <dopeghoti> ??> Livity smp/savefiles
#2968 [12:32] <VoxelHead> Livity: (smp/savefiles) Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#2969 [12:32] <VoxelHead> Livity: (smp/savefiles) To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
#2970 [12:33] <Kramis12> Thanks for the help anwyay, I will just try it again later I surpose
#2971 [12:33] <dopeghoti> D3RGPS31: do you have a stack trace from the crash?
#2972 [12:34] <D3RGPS31> dopeghoti: yes, i'll get it on pastebin v:
#2973 [12:34] <dopeghoti> keen
#2974 [12:34] <D3RGPS31> http://pastebin.com/j5FdTQMf
#2975 [12:36] <dopeghoti> ..huh.
#2976 [12:37] <D3RGPS31> 83
#2977 [12:37] <dopeghoti> This is a long shot, but.. `sudo apt-get --reinstall install sun-java6-jre`?
#2978 [12:37] <xales> dopeghoti: no, no
#2979 [12:37] <xales> I know why I think
#2980 [12:37] <xales> seen it before
#2981 [12:37] <dopeghoti> Alternatively, I run it just fine under OpenJDK; do you get a similar trace when you run under that JVM?
#2982 [12:37] <xales> D3RGPS31: try just renaming the .minecraft folder entirely
#2983 [12:39] <D3RGPS31> xales: thank you V:
#2984 [12:39] <D3RGPS31> xales: it worked
#2985 [12:39] <dopeghoti> yay!
#2986 [12:44] <fogWraith> Well I say, the beds added to the game made it so much easier for muppets to spam
#2987 [12:44] <fogWraith> Lay down, hammer keys
#2988 [12:44] <dopeghoti> muppets?
#2989 [12:44] <fogWraith> Muppets
#2990 [12:45] * dopeghoti was unaware that Notch implemented Gonzo and Beaker.
#2990 [12:45] <Livity> Emm, Do I have to do new line to server.properties called "world=" or what the hell? ( When IM trying to use single player map on multiplayer)
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#2992 [12:46] <xales> Livity: no
#2993 [12:46] <Kyll> Hello everybody
#2994 [12:46] <xales> just rename the folder to "world"
#2995 [12:47] <Livity> But look, My multiplayer stuff isnt in %appdata% like minecraft. So, I wish to use "seed" system with multiplayer. So I figured if its possible to move my "Single-player" world to multiplayer.
#2996 [12:47] <Kyll> I've a server problem: When I connect to my friend's private server, I've often the same error message: "Failed to login: Bad login"
#2997 [12:47] <Livity> Someone replied with auto answer: Livity: (smp/savefiles) Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#2998 [12:48] <dopeghoti> Livity: you can. Just copy the World_ directory from %AppData% to where you have the server.
#2999 [12:48] <Abbc> xales u frogot here lol
#3000 [12:48] <xales> Kyll: are you using "play offline"?
#3001 [12:48] <Livity> I tried.. well, I try agian them
#3002 [12:48] <dopeghoti> and set the world= line in server.properties to that exact directory name
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#3004 [12:48] <Livity> then*
#3005 [12:48] <Kyll> Xales: No
#3006 [12:48] <xales> Kyll: what is your username?
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#3008 [12:48] <Kyll> Xales: Kyll
#3009 [12:49] <tyron> @@xales bukkit seems to not let me in - what should we do?
#3010 [12:49] <Livity> tho, in server.properties there isnt "World" its "level-name"
#3011 [12:49] <Livity> thats what I got confused with I guess.
#3012 [12:49] <xales> tyron: ask #bukkit - they can probably be of more help
#3013 [12:49] <dopeghoti> ??> tyron mods
#3014 [12:49] <VoxelHead> tyron: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3015 [12:49] <VoxelHead> tyron: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3016 [12:49] <xales> Kyll: can you connect to other servers?
#3017 [12:49] <dopeghoti> Livity: Oh? Thanks for bringing that up; I will modify the FAQ accordingly.
#3018 [12:49] <dopeghoti> Livity: My apologies for the confusion.
#3019 [12:49] <Livity> np
#3020 [12:50] <Kyll> Xales: I can connect to my friend's private server sometimes, whithout any probelm...
#3021 [12:50] <Kyll> Xales: I can connect to my friend's private server sometimes, whithout any problem...
#3022 [12:50] <xales> Kyll: can you connect to other servers though?
#3023 [12:51] * xales has to go <.<
#3023 [12:51] * xales tags dopeghoti in
#3023 [12:52] <dopeghoti> I'm lowercase for a reason- I'm not _slacking_ at work right now (:
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#3032 [12:59] <dot> I am getting a failure to lanch, are the servers down?
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#3034 [12:59] <Kyll> Hello again
#3035 [13:00] <That1guy2112> Can anyone help me with a Minecraft Laucher issue?
#3036 [13:00] <dot> what is it saying?
#3037 [13:01] <Kyll> I try to connect to another server to see if the issue appears
#3038 [13:01] <That1guy2112> when i try to login using the downloaded laucher it says can't connect to minecraft dot net
#3039 [13:01] <That1guy2112> i cant get past it to even select multi or single player
#3040 [13:02] <dopeghoti> That1guy2112: can you connect from the in-browser client?
#3041 [13:02] <That1guy2112> yea
#3042 [13:02] <dopeghoti> ??> That1guy2112 mc.net/authdown
#3043 [13:02] <VoxelHead> That1guy2112: (mc.net/authdown) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#3044 [13:03] <That1guy2112> ok thanks but its done it for i think 2 days now
#3045 [13:03] <dot> I am getting a failure to launch voxelhead, what is the cause of this problem? Note: I have never logged into the server because of the cannot connect message.
#3046 [13:03] <That1guy2112> also could it be an issue with me being on a Mac i saw notch was fixing something wrong with macs
#3047 [13:05] <That1guy2112> wow ok i got pasted the cannont connect to minecraft.net message and i try to update to beta 1.3 and it says failure to lauch
#3048 [13:05] <dot> I get a failure to launch also
#3049 [13:06] <That1guy2112> Mac? or PC?
#3050 [13:06] <dot> PC
#3051 [13:06] <That1guy2112> o ok nevermind
#3052 [13:06] <dot> you?
#3053 [13:07] <dot> does anyone know why i am getting a failure to lanch.
#3054 [13:08] <dopeghoti> dot: sorry, I haen't seen that issue before
#3055 [13:08] <Kyll> I don't manage to connect to any server Oo
#3056 [13:08] <dot> maybe the servers are down.
#3057 [13:09] <Kyll> Always "Full", "bad login", "not in the whitelist", "too long to connect"...
#3058 [13:10] <Kyll> Or, sometimes, "outdated server"
#3059 [13:11] <dot> This is starting to make me mad, I pay for a game last night that i am still yet to play.
#3060 [13:11] <dopeghoti> Three or four of those, I can explain. "Not in the Whitelist" means the server admin has turned on the whitelist function, and you're not on it.
#3061 [13:11] <Kyll> Oh, I'm connected to a server
#3062 [13:11] <Kyll> Let's see if I crash...
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#3064 [13:12] <dopeghoti> "Outdated server" means the admin has yet to upgrade the server to 1.3. "Bad login" means eiter that you're in 'offline' mode, or that the server was unable to verify your account.
#3065 [13:12] <dopeghoti> and "Full" is just what it says on the tin.
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#3068 [13:14] <dot> dope, I have never logged on yet because of issues with a back up in verification. But now I am getting a "Failure to Launch" any reason why I am getting this issue?
#3069 [13:14] <Rikkubeauty> hello everybody
#3070 [13:14] <dopeghoti> dot: sorry, I haen't seen that 'failure to launch' issue before.
#3071 [13:15] <dot> hummm. thanks.
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#3073 [13:16] <dopeghoti> dot: does the in-browser client work?
#3074 [13:16] <m7> Hi my question is when i buy minecraft can i make a puplic server for all my friends without paying?? sry my english is not good
#3075 [13:17] <dopeghoti> m7: anyone can start and run a server, but in order to play, each player must have purchased the game.
#3076 [13:17] <dopeghoti> (or have been given a gift code)
#3077 [13:17] <m7> ok thx
#3078 [13:17] <dopeghoti> "Good luck running a server on dial-up there, buddy."
#3079 [13:17] <Kyll> Okay: I'm connected on the server for a few minutes, and I don't crash
#3080 [13:18] <Kyll> On my friend's private server, I can't stay more than two minutes without my computer totally crash
#3081 [13:18] <Kyll> (Blue screen!)
#3082 [13:19] <dopeghoti> Kyll: If your computer is bluescreening, it's not a Minecraft problem; it's something with your hardware, drivers, or other software. Java (unless it is itself broken) cannot cause bluescreens.
#3083 [13:19] <dopeghoti> ??> Kyll win/profile
#3084 [13:19] <VoxelHead> Kyll: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3085 [13:19] <VoxelHead> Kyll: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#3087 [13:20] <Rikkubeauty> Hello, I have a simple question, can I host a server and play with friends in the classic version of MC without paying ?
#3088 [13:21] <Livity> Hello
#3089 [13:21] <Livity> Can I copy something from another world to another?
#3090 [13:21] <dopeghoti> Rikkubeauty: Yess, Classic is free; just like it says on the site.
#3091 [13:21] <Livity> a house for example?
#3092 [13:21] <dopeghoti> Livity: not easily.
#3093 [13:21] <Livity> :S
#3094 [13:23] <xolotl> Livity: You'd use something like MCEdit to do that
#3095 [13:23] <Rikkubeauty> thanks for your answer dopeghoti. So I have a new question, since two hours I'm trying to host a server and play with a friend but he can't join my server, it says "You can't connect to the server via this URL anymore!"
#3096 [13:24] <Rikkubeauty> and he ends in a single player game
#3097 [13:24] <xolotl> Rikkubeauty: He should be using the Classic client on the minecraft website, not the standalone Beta client
#3098 [13:25] <ArmEagle> hmm, to me it seems the 1.3 lighting only made it darker than it already was..
#3099 [13:25] <Rikkubeauty> you mean just by pasting the URL with my IP and port, right ?
#3100 [13:25] <Livity> And mcedit things arent spoken here eh?
#3101 [13:26] <xolotl> Livity: MCEdit is fine; it's a third-party map editing tool.
#3102 [13:27] <xolotl> Rikkubeauty: I think for classic, the URLs are supposed to have minecraft.net as the hostname (I haven't actually done any of this myself, so I'm just guessing)
#3103 [13:27] <xolotl> Livity: There's no official support for it, of course, but it's not verboten or anything.
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#3105 [13:28] <oneirosFade> Hey all. Have any of you had any success running MC on a Linux-based AspireOne (or equivalent netbook)?
#3106 [13:29] <AndrewPH> oneirosFade, Which aspire one
#3107 [13:29] <AndrewPH> I have a D255 that i've managed to run mc on (windows and linux)
#3108 [13:29] <oneirosFade> The D250
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#3111 [13:29] <oneirosFade> Well, Linux seems generally slower at it (compared to Win on the same machine)
#3112 [13:29] <Rikkubeauty> thanks xolotl , actually the link I'm sending to him looks like this: http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx&port=25565, where "xxx..." is my IP. But he still get the red message "You can't connect to the server via this URL anymore!"
#3113 [13:30] <oneirosFade> I can run it, but I get such horrible framerates that it's unplayable
#3114 [13:30] <AndrewPH> oneirosFade, I get horribad framerate on the windows version too :p
#3115 [13:30] <xolotl> Rikkubeauty: Ah, k. Hopefully someone else can help, then
#3116 [13:30] <Rikkubeauty> thanks for you help ;)
#3117 [13:30] <oneirosFade> Well, that's not such good news :)
#3118 [13:30] <AndrewPH> oneirosFade, nintendo 64 games play fine though :P
#3119 [13:30] <xolotl> Rikkubeauty: Make sure your port forwarding is set up properly, etc, of course
#3120 [13:30] <oneirosFade> And this hasn't (I'm assuming) changed dramatically with 1.3?
#3121 [13:31] <Rikkubeauty> already done, we tried almost everything to make it work
#3122 [13:31] <AndrewPH> oneirosFade, I don't believe so
#3123 [13:31] <oneirosFade> Rats. I know my main machine saw almost a doubling of framerate after the update, but I haven't tried on the netbook since 1.2
#3124 [13:32] <dopeghoti> oneirosFade sounds like a video driver issue to me
#3125 [13:32] <oneirosFade> Likely, yeah. I know the shader mod freaks out on my main machine thanks to the particular card I have
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#3127 [13:35] <oneirosFade> I'd try the Optimine patch, but from what I gather it doesn't affect SMP
#3128 [13:36] <dopeghoti> oneirosFade: try just turning off the new shader in Options?
#3129 [13:36] <dopeghoti> or putting in-place new drivers?
#3130 [13:37] <oneirosFade> dope: I haven't tried 1.3 on the netbook, but yeah, I'd likely have to turn off smooth lighting. As for new drivers, the Linux box has current drivers, and the Windows box (with GLSL problems) can't use the new drivers for some reason
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#3133 [13:38] <oneirosFade> Bah, maybe I'll just use the 'droid version for my mobile brick-breaking fun (once it comes out)
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#3135 [13:40] <oneirosFade> But thanks for the suggestions and input - at least I know it's not just me :)
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#3137 [13:40] <Anaboll> Hello
#3138 [13:40] <Anaboll> is any Admin woh can help me with my account
#3139 [13:41] <Anaboll> Need help
#3140 [13:43] <dopeghoti> ?? ask
#3141 [13:43] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3142 [13:43] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3143 [13:46] <Anaboll> ok
#3144 [13:48] <Anaboll> I buy gift code . And i chose option " I need accc to somone else not me " and My account has been upgrade to beta ... . I need to disactivate this account and i must have Gift Code . Is any possible to do that?
#3145 [13:55] <LG_Legacy> Depends if mollstam is online
#3146 [13:56] <LG_Legacy> I'd suggest emailing Help/Support/Mojang
#3147 [13:56] <LG_Legacy> Transcation logs/id are a good idea
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#3151 [13:58] <Kyll> Hello again...
#3152 [13:58] <Jerome> I keep getting the white screen on the browser version. Is there anyway to stop this?
#3153 [13:58] <Kyll> My computer crash another time while I was connected to a survival server
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#3155 [14:00] <Kyll> I can't stay connected more than two minutes on my friend's private server (With at least 15-25 seconds latence), but I stayed connected for ten minutes on another survival server (With 1-5 seconds latence)
#3156 [14:00] <Kyll> Then, my computer totally crash
#3157 [14:01] <LG_Legacy> That sounds like a hardware issue
#3158 [14:01] <LG_Legacy> Not a minecraft issue
#3159 [14:01] <LG_Legacy> Or a program conflict
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#3161 [14:02] <pig> hey, can anyone give me a hand?
#3162 [14:03] <DeeWoo> http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/a-hand.jpg
#3163 [14:04] <pig> would you be able to assist me with trouble that im having with minecraft? how about that
#3164 [14:04] <Anaboll> Hello, i beed help with Gift Code mistake . Is any one who can help my now on PW?
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#3167 [14:05] <Anaboll> I have payment id. Need help with Gift Code transaction.
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#3172 [14:07] <pig> sooo
#3173 [14:08] <dopeghoti> Anaboll: could you rephrase your problem? You purchased a gift code but you don't want it on your account?
#3174 [14:09] <Anaboll> yes
#3175 [14:09] <Anaboll> i need Gift Code
#3176 [14:09] <Anaboll> i have id transaction.
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#3178 [14:10] <dopeghoti> Anaboll: when you log into the site and go to your Profile, do you not see the gift code?
#3179 [14:10] <Draglems1> Is there a way i can increase water flow?
#3180 [14:10] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: meaning, make water flow farther?
#3181 [14:10] <Draglems1> Yes.
#3182 [14:11] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: every time flowing water flows _down_, its distance counter is 'reset'
#3183 [14:11] <Anaboll> no. I have only information " You have already have the full version of the game! YAY!"
#3184 [14:11] <Anaboll> but i ca;t see my Gift Code.
#3185 [14:11] <dopeghoti> so to make it go farther, just make it descend a little bit
#3186 [14:11] <Draglems1> but I want it to go in a straight line.
#3187 [14:11] <dopeghoti> Anaboll: you're looking here? http://www.minecraft.net/skin/
#3188 [14:12] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: Draglems1 drop a bucket midstream then
#3189 [14:12] <Anaboll> yes, but there is no gift code.
#3190 [14:12] <dopeghoti> Anaboll: email payment@mojang.com with your gift code purchase payment confirmation; they'll get back to you in time.
#3191 [14:12] <Draglems1> I'm in a snow biome.
#3192 [14:13] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: buckets still work in the cold.
#3193 [14:13] <Draglems1> I don't like destorying ice though..
#3194 [14:13] <Draglems1> Meh, i'll just use McEdit.
#3195 [14:13] <Draglems1> INVedit*
#3196 [14:13] <Draglems1> thanks alot.
#3197 [14:13] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: so take a walk to where it's thawed out?
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#3199 [14:14] <Anaboll> dopeghoti : How time they need to help me ?
#3200 [14:14] <dopeghoti> Anaboll: they get a lot of email; I don't know how long it will take.
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#3202 [14:14] <Anaboll> ok , thanks for help
#3203 [14:14] <dopeghoti> cheers
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#3206 [14:17] <rnzr> hello. i wonder if sleeping my bed sets my spawning point?
#3207 [14:17] <rnzr> +in
#3208 [14:20] <dopeghoti> rnzr: according to the release notes, yes.
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#3210 [14:20] <sardo97> Hello
#3211 [14:20] <dopeghoti> morning.
#3212 [14:20] <sardo97> Morning.
#3213 [14:20] <sardo97> Ugh, i hate being sick!
#3214 [14:20] <rnzr> thanks! i'll try that out :) kinda scared.. built my home far away from the start
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#3216 [14:21] <xolotl> rnzr: I'm pretty sure that functionality doesn't actually work at the moment btw
#3217 [14:21] <xolotl> It is at least planned for inclusion, though
#3218 [14:21] <rnzr> oh
#3219 [14:21] <rnzr> :(
#3220 [14:21] <sardo97> Is anyone here using 'Limechat'?
#3221 [14:21] <BurnZeZ> What's a good VST for drums?
#3222 [14:22] <dopeghoti> BurnZeZ: Reason?
#3223 [14:22] <rnzr> aint a vst :)
#3224 [14:22] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: I can't find any good ones. :]
#3225 [14:22] <rnzr> i use battery.. but i guess you're searching for a free version?
#3226 [14:22] <rnzr> *free one
#3227 [14:22] <BurnZeZ> Depends on how good it is.
#3228 [14:23] <BurnZeZ> I'm a composer.
#3229 [14:23] <BurnZeZ> If they have a free trial, I'll go that way too.
#3230 [14:23] <BurnZeZ> I don't mind spending cash as long as it's not outrageous.
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#3232 [14:23] <rnzr> yeah, they have a demoversion
#3233 [14:23] <rnzr> check nativeinstruments.com
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#3235 [14:24] <BurnZeZ> Cool. Thanks.
#3236 [14:24] <rnzr> http://co.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=batterypcdemo
#3237 [14:24] <BurnZeZ> Woo. Direct link. :D
#3238 [14:24] <rnzr> :)
#3239 [14:25] * BurnZeZ waits for E-mail.
#3239 [14:26] <rnzr> what music are you composing?
#3240 [14:26] <BurnZeZ> A variety.
#3241 [14:26] <BurnZeZ> In this instance, music for a video game.
#3242 [14:26] <rnzr> ah ok. i just do silly dance music.. hehe
#3243 [14:27] <BurnZeZ> rnzr: Crappy remix of another song of mine -> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12151069/Music/Light%20Kick.mp3
#3244 [14:27] <rnzr> and at the moment only with audiotool.com cause, yeah, available everywhere
#3245 [14:27] <BurnZeZ> lol
#3246 [14:27] <BurnZeZ> FL Studio is the bomb.
#3247 [14:27] <BurnZeZ> Just wait until they do 50% off.
#3248 [14:27] <BurnZeZ> Buy it.
#3249 [14:27] <BurnZeZ> Make Music.
#3250 [14:27] <BurnZeZ> PROFIT?!?!?
#3251 [14:27] <rnzr> i bought ableton
#3252 [14:27] <rnzr> but mostly for djing
#3253 [14:28] <BurnZeZ> Nice.
#3254 [14:28] <rnzr> started a bit producing with it.. but dunno, really hooked on audiotool hehe
#3255 [14:28] <rnzr> your tune sounds epic :)
#3256 [14:28] <BurnZeZ> I like orchestral stuff the most.
#3257 [14:29] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#3258 [14:29] <BurnZeZ> Audiotool is interesting.
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#3260 [14:29] <BurnZeZ> I wouldn't use it.
#3261 [14:29] <rnzr> it really is.. this audiotool got me quite some fame on there: http://soundcloud.com/rnzr/teeth
#3262 [14:29] <BurnZeZ> But it's a cool concept.
#3263 [14:29] <rnzr> but yeah, silly dubstepdancemusic :)
#3264 [14:30] <rnzr> yeah.. got a officejob, and sometimes, nothing to do. so i compose in audiotool.
#3265 [14:30] <BurnZeZ> lolol
#3266 [14:30] <BurnZeZ> lol 106MB for battery.
#3267 [14:30] <BurnZeZ> 2 minutes left. :D
#3268 [14:30] <rnzr> guess it comes with some demo kits :)
#3269 [14:31] <BurnZeZ> Pretty sweet.
#3270 [14:31] <BurnZeZ> Your song that is.
#3271 [14:31] <rnzr> thanks
#3272 [14:31] <sardo97> OMG New MacBook Pro's YAY!
#3273 [14:31] <rnzr> but the fact that its done in a flashapplication makes it even better hehe..
#3274 [14:32] * BurnZeZ slaps sardo97.
#3274 [14:32] <sardo97> ...
#3275 [14:32] <BurnZeZ> rnzr: lol Yeah.
#3276 [14:32] <BurnZeZ> Wait.
#3277 [14:32] <BurnZeZ> How did I get here?
#3278 [14:32] <BurnZeZ> Oh yeah.
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#3280 [14:32] * BurnZeZ mistook this channel for another.
#3280 [14:32] <rnzr> hahaha
#3281 [14:33] <BurnZeZ> Yo Miclee.
#3282 [14:33] <BurnZeZ> Wazzzup
#3283 [14:33] <Miclee> Don't uselessly ping me.
#3284 [14:33] <xales> Miclee
#3285 [14:34] <xales> :P
#3286 [14:34] <Miclee> Only xales can do that.
#3287 [14:34] <BurnZeZ> lol
#3288 [14:34] * xales has go to again, cya
#3288 [14:36] <LG_Legacy> He means me
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#3290 [14:36] <BurnZeZ> How long is my ban anyways?
#3291 [14:36] <dopeghoti> until you've learned your lesson?
#3292 [14:36] <BurnZeZ> lol
#3293 [14:37] * dopeghoti checked; it's set to expire 5 Octember 20X1
#3293 [14:37] <BurnZeZ> :D
#3294 [14:40] <rayfranco> Hi there, is there a way to add people to the white list directly from the console or mc chat, without having to change and save the file ?
#3295 [14:40] <BurnZeZ> Yes.
#3296 [14:40] <BurnZeZ> I believe so.
#3297 [14:40] <BurnZeZ> Lemme check.
#3298 [14:40] <BurnZeZ> http://i.imgur.com/DiW26.png
#3299 [14:40] <BurnZeZ> That.
#3300 [14:41] <BurnZeZ> About halfway down.
#3301 [14:41] <dopeghoti> 'whitelist add <name>' IIRC
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#3304 [14:43] <Phayt> Hi
#3305 [14:43] <dopeghoti> howdy
#3306 [14:43] <Phayt> I wonder if here is anyone who could help me
#3307 [14:43] <Phayt> got an issue with level generation
#3308 [14:43] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: Is it just me, or have OPs been more active lately?
#3309 [14:43] <dopeghoti> a> It's just you. b> 'Op' isn't an acronym.
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#3312 [14:45] <Kyle-> Hey could someone help with texture packs?
#3313 [14:45] <Kyle-> I don't have a clue on how to install them
#3314 [14:45] <Kyle-> Any help would be great :)
#3315 [14:45] <BurnZeZ> Ops is an acronym. Isn't it?
#3316 [14:45] <Kyle-> OP = operator
#3317 [14:46] <BurnZeZ> Kyle: What size is the texture pack?
#3318 [14:46] <BurnZeZ> 16x16?
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#3320 [14:46] <Kyle-> I haven't touched anything yet dude
#3321 [14:47] <Phayt> Hm
#3322 [14:47] <Kyle-> Just i've been watching a couple vids and wanted to know where to find them / install them
#3323 [14:47] <BurnZeZ> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1021
#3324 [14:47] <dopeghoti> Kyle-: it comes in the form of a .zip file. put that .zip file into the texture packs directory. Done and done.
#3325 [14:47] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: Unless it requires further modification.
#3326 [14:47] <BurnZeZ> Eg. HD Texture packs.
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#3328 [14:47] <Phayt> can anyone read what im writing?
#3329 [14:48] <BurnZeZ> [14:46:57] <Phayt> Hm
#3330 [14:48] <Phayt> ah
#3331 [14:48] <Phayt> kewl
#3332 [14:48] <Phayt> ^^
#3333 [14:48] <Kyle-> Sorry i'm not to good with computers :/
#3334 [14:48] <Kyle-> I wanted to find one of the high quality ones
#3335 [14:48] <dopeghoti> Phayt: perhaps we were simply waiting for you to actually ask your question.
#3336 [14:49] <Phayt> Is there a possibility to convert .mclevel to .dat besides OMEN?
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#3338 [14:49] * dopeghoti is not familiar with the idiocyncracies of Classic savefiles.
#3338 [14:50] <Phayt> So Zomg 201 creates classic lvl files?
#3339 [14:50] <Phayt> outsh
#3340 [14:50] <dopeghoti> no, but ".mclevel' files are, IIRC, Classic files.
#3341 [14:51] <Phayt> ah okay
#3342 [14:51] <BurnZeZ> What's wrong with OMEN?
#3343 [14:51] <dopeghoti> what is Omen? Some sort of map editor?
#3344 [14:51] <xolotl> It's an old, Classic-only map editor
#3345 [14:51] <Phayt> It does not save and yes, i put the omen files in my server directory :)
#3346 [14:51] <xolotl> Phayt: MCEdit should be able to do it for you
#3347 [14:52] <BurnZeZ> MCEdit can access classic maps?
#3348 [14:52] <Phayt> Okay so i guess im totally messing up with classic/non-classic tools and formats
#3349 [14:52] <xolotl> BurnZeZ: Its underlying library, pymclevel, can, so I assume that MCEdit could, as well
#3350 [14:52] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#3351 [14:52] <BurnZeZ> MCEdit can do everything. D:
#3352 [14:52] <xolotl> Or maybe I'm remembering that wrong
#3353 [14:52] <Phayt> I opened the file in ne newest MCEdit version but can not find a way to save it in .dat
#3354 [14:53] <xolotl> Nope, I was right. At least assuming that the code's comments aren't lying to me, pymclevel supports Classic, so I'd guess that MCEdit does too
#3355 [14:53] <Kyle-> Right i've found a texture pack i want from that link you provided for me BurnZeZ
#3356 [14:53] <xolotl> Phayt: Save it as a schematic, and then import it into a new world
#3357 [14:53] <Kyle-> What should i do now?
#3358 [14:53] <BurnZeZ> Kyle-: First, off, is it 16x16?
#3359 [14:54] <Kyle-> "Simple, clean, 16x & slightly customizable."
#3360 [14:54] <BurnZeZ> [14:47:15] <@dopeghoti> Kyle-: it comes in the form of a .zip file. put that .zip file into the texture packs directory. Done and done.
#3361 [14:54] <Kyle-> Thats what it says in the description
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#3363 [14:56] <Phayt> Sorry but i really cant find a way to save this MCEdit. By pressing ctrl the only save option will overwrite the existing mclevel file
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#3365 [14:56] <Skaarj> hi
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#3367 [14:58] <minercrafter> ,Hey ther
#3368 [14:58] <minercrafter> e
#3369 [14:58] <Phayt> I guess I'll try to find some Tutorials for mapping to get a better basement of knowledge
#3370 [14:58] <minercrafter> Is there some sort of site/wiki which would list the currently available recipes ingame?
#3371 [14:59] <Skaarj> minercrafter: minecraftwiki.net
#3372 [14:59] <xolotl> minercrafter: You mean something that will pull up the list inside the game itself, or just a list of the recipes?
#3373 [14:59] <xolotl> (what Skaarj said for the latter)
#3374 [14:59] <minercrafter> Just a list of recipes,doesnt have to be ingame.
#3375 [15:00] <minercrafter> I believe I still have a lot to find out,other than door,glass etc.
#3376 [15:00] <xolotl> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting in specific
#3377 [15:00] <minercrafter> Cheers.
#3378 [15:00] <minercrafter> and another thing would be,when I updated after a long time,I saw a tree with a white-ish trunk and with black dots.
#3379 [15:00] <minercrafter> Looked sort of like a coal ore
#3380 [15:00] <minercrafter> Thats a bug or something new?
#3381 [15:01] <xolotl> See also http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Furnace
#3382 [15:01] <minercrafter> (Still gave me wood)
#3383 [15:01] <xolotl> minercrafter: That's just a Birch tree
#3384 [15:01] <xolotl> http://www.eastcoastplywood.com/images/birch-tree.jpg etc
#3385 [15:01] <minercrafter> Aah
#3386 [15:01] <minercrafter> Makes sense.
#3387 [15:01] <Kyle-> Ok, so i've installed my texture pack now what am i putting in the texture pack folder guys?
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#3389 [15:01] <minercrafter> Thanks.
#3390 [15:02] <xolotl> And yeah, it's just wood, though it won't stack with "regular" wood. It's still usable in any recipe requiring wood, though
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#3392 [15:02] <xolotl> There's also a darker "pine" wood block available, near snowy regions
#3393 [15:02] <minercrafter> I have only got to check it out for a couple of minutes.
#3394 [15:02] <minercrafter> Any other major updates?
#3395 [15:02] <xolotl> Kyle-: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_Pack
#3396 [15:02] <minercrafter> Notchs blog states about sea monsters etc.
#3397 [15:02] <Umikori> Hello, My minecraft keeps me infinitely falling when I connect to a server
#3398 [15:03] <xolotl> minercrafter: As usual, the wiki knows all: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#3399 [15:03] <xolotl> And by "sea monster" he currently just means "Squid," which are actually a peaceful mob and won't attack you
#3400 [15:04] <xolotl> Umikori: Sounds like lag issues; your client isn't getting chunk data
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#3402 [15:04] <minercrafter> Ah ^^ As I said,I wasnt able to check out most of the stuff yet,but reading wiki now
#3403 [15:04] <Umikori> It's only when I play minecraft though, I can play other games just fine with no lag
#3404 [15:05] <xolotl> Umikori: Lag could == "slow servers," etc.
#3405 [15:05] <Umikori> I have friends on the same server and they're playing just fine, it's just me who is receiving these problems
#3406 [15:05] <minercrafter> talking about Multiplayer,I havent even touched multiplayer option even once.Where would I go about looking for some servers I can live at?
#3407 [15:05] <minercrafter> Wiki?
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#3409 [15:07] <xolotl> If you google for "minecraft smp server" you'll find some sites; you can idle in #smp too, though it's pretty low-traffic
#3410 [15:08] <Umikori> I haven't had this problem before the patch and even with the new client I still have this issue, the in browser is having this problem as well
#3411 [15:08] <Umikori> Is there any way to resolve this issue?
#3412 [15:10] <minercrafter> Hmm reading the wiki
#3413 [15:10] <minercrafter> I didnt quite get
#3414 [15:10] <minercrafter> what the dispenser is useful for
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#3416 [15:13] <rayfranco> Do you know why if I place a ladder, it disappears in the seconds ?
#3417 [15:13] <rayfranco> thanks for the help
#3418 [15:14] <dopeghoti> minercrafter: useful for dispensing things? Also, it _shoots_ arrows rather than just spitting them out like other items
#3419 [15:17] <minercrafter> shoots?
#3420 [15:17] <minercrafter> Well a bow shoots arrows
#3421 [15:17] <minercrafter> Dispenser is something like a turret?
#3422 [15:17] <dopeghoti> a dispenser hooked up to, say, a pressure plate.
#3423 [15:17] <dopeghoti> or a lever.
#3424 [15:18] <minercrafter> ah.So I can have a dispenser loaded with arrows and have it shoot arrows as soon as I stand on the pressure plate.
#3425 [15:18] <minercrafter> I reckon it fires the arrows in random directions though?
#3426 [15:19] <dopeghoti> nope, it has one direction (iirc it faces you when you place the dispenser)
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#3428 [15:19] <MDanz> hi
#3429 [15:19] <MDanz> i need hlep with the server
#3430 [15:19] <MDanz> when i try to connect on the controll pannel it says you must log in!
#3431 [15:20] <MDanz> and it dc me aswell
#3432 [15:20] <MDanz> any ideas?
#3433 [15:20] <dopeghoti> ?? smp/needlogin
#3434 [15:20] <VoxelHead> smp/needlogin: If you get the message "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!" when joining a server, you are attempting to join a Classic server.
#3435 [15:20] <VoxelHead> smp/needlogin: If you are running the server, you downloaded the wrong software. The correct software is on the same page where you download the client.
#3436 [15:20] <minercrafter> Hmm,thanks dopeghoti
#3437 [15:20] <dopeghoti> cheers
#3438 [15:22] <MDanz> #bukkit
#3439 [15:22] <xolotl> minercrafter: There *is* a certain amount of randomness to the fired arrows (much as when you fire one yourself) but they're all in the same general direction
#3440 [15:23] <xolotl> minercrafter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewFrgDPCgGA
#3441 [15:25] <xolotl> also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YFfR0l_FLk
#3442 [15:27] <BurnZeZ> 40 years.
#3443 [15:28] <minercrafter> watching :)
#3444 [15:33] <BurnZeZ> Yo.
#3445 [15:33] <BurnZeZ> Kyle-'s got some issues.
#3446 [15:33] <Kyle-> Hey
#3447 [15:33] <BurnZeZ> Don't know what is going on.
#3448 [15:34] <BurnZeZ> Apparently, he plays Minecraft, but the .minecraft folder doesn't exist.
#3449 [15:34] <BurnZeZ> Can't even open it from the minecraft launcher.
#3450 [15:34] <BurnZeZ> Any ideas?
#3451 [15:34] <Kyle-> The game works fine, saves and stuff are all there
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#3453 [15:34] <BurnZeZ> Windows XP apparently.
#3454 [15:34] <Kyle-> Yeah, i'm on xp.
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#3458 [15:41] <BurnZeZ> These kind of errors are outside my expertise though.
#3459 [15:41] <BurnZeZ> I'm not overly familiar with Java.
#3460 [15:41] <dopeghoti> ?? win/reinst
#3461 [15:41] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3462 [15:41] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3464 [15:43] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: Can't access it.
#3465 [15:43] <BurnZeZ> Minecraft folder apparently doesn't exist within %Appdata%
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#3468 [15:43] <BurnZeZ> Never mind.
#3469 [15:44] <cockvolcano> any news on the 1.3.1 mp not working/
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#3472 [15:45] <cockvolcano> no?
#3473 [15:47] <dopeghoti> By 'never mind', did you mean 'oops, yeah, it's there'? (:
#3474 [15:47] <dopeghoti> ??>> Yust4fun92 irc/dontpm
#3475 [15:47] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: Yes.
#3476 [15:48] <BurnZeZ> I guess he messed up when I told him to do it earlier. XD
#3477 [15:48] <Kealper> dopeghoti: i has issue
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#3479 [15:48] <dopeghoti> ??> Kealper ask
#3480 [15:48] <VoxelHead> Kealper: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3481 [15:48] <cockvolcano> no on kow
#3482 [15:48] <VoxelHead> Kealper: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3483 [15:48] <Kealper> [EsperNet] -!- Cannot join to channel #mcbots (You are banned)
#3484 [15:48] <Kealper> you fix yes?
#3485 [15:49] <KiaraBane> Heeey I could use some guidance. I'm trying to set up a multiplayer server and keep getting the message "Disconnected by Server: Outdated Server" -- how do I fix?
#3486 [15:49] <dopeghoti> Kealper: "/msg Chanserv unban #mcbots"
#3487 [15:49] <dopeghoti> KiaraBane: re-download the server .jarfile
#3488 [15:49] <Kealper> orly....guess i learned something today!
#3489 [15:50] <Kealper> that's just sneaky...i wonder if i can do that for this channel too
#3490 [15:50] <dopeghoti> any channel you're a user in that's registered with chanserv
#3491 [15:50] <Kealper> AOP count as registered?
#3492 [15:51] <KiaraBane> dopeghoti - the server sip file?
#3493 [15:51] <Kealper> cockvolcano...really...really...
#3494 [15:51] <KiaraBane> *zip
#3495 [15:51] <Kealper> !server
#3496 [15:51] <Kealper> that's a stupid command GreyBot has
#3497 [15:52] <KiaraBane> haha
#3498 [15:52] <dopeghoti> Kealper: ?
#3499 [15:52] <Kealper> -GreyBot(Grey@c-68-43-58-28.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)- aperture.esper.net
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#3501 [15:52] <Kealper> after typing !server lol
#3502 [15:52] <dopeghoti> ..oh
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#3504 [15:52] <Kealper> must be some debug code grey threw in there recently and forgot to take out or something
#3505 [15:53] <KiaraBane> Okay so if I re-download the file, should I delete the old one?
#3506 [15:53] <Kealper> yes, it should just replace your old one
#3507 [15:53] <Tyrael> Hi folks. So far I have been unable to get Minecraft to establish a working connection to my Minecraft_Server, even on the looback interface. I must be doing something wrong. Error messages seem to vary randomly from one launch to the other. Sounds familiar?
#3508 [15:54] <dopeghoti> ?? error
#3509 [15:54] <Kealper> speaking of which....is the latest server version 1.3_01 or still just 1.3?
#3510 [15:54] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#3511 [15:54] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#3512 [15:54] <dopeghoti> Kealper: IIRC the server it still 1.3 (hence slimepocalypse)
#3513 [15:54] <KiaraBane> Mmm now it's telling me it failed to bind to port? x.x
#3514 [15:54] <Kealper> Tyrael: "Malformed byte at offset: xx" sort of looking thing?
#3515 [15:55] <Tyrael> Kealper: sometimes yes. Sometimes the other frequent messages about bad packets
#3516 [15:56] <Tyrael> And sometimes the client just crashes
#3517 [15:56] <Kealper> Tyrael: update both your server and client
#3518 [15:56] <Kealper> a;sp
#3519 [15:56] <Kealper> also*
#3520 [15:56] <Tyrael> Kealper: I just downloaded them :-(
#3521 [15:56] <Kealper> make sure the server is actually a beta server
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#3523 [15:56] <Tyrael> Server is 1.3, client 1.3_01
#3524 [15:57] <Kealper> that's wird
#3525 [15:57] <Kealper> weird*
#3526 [15:57] <KiaraBane> (is waiting patiently -- just don't want comment to get lost in the log)
#3527 [15:57] <Kealper> Tyrael: any antivirus software or firewalls?
#3528 [15:58] <Tyrael> AVG, ZOneAlarm
#3529 [15:58] <Kealper> KiaraBane: make sure the server is not running in the background
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#3531 [15:58] <Kealper> Tyrael: kill ZA with fire, that is 110% the cause
#3532 [15:58] <dopeghoti> KiaraBane: "failed to bind to port" means wither you misconfigured the server-ip line (leave it blank!) or that you have another server running
#3533 [15:58] * Raptor_Jesus plays the vuvuzela
#3533 [15:58] <KiaraBane> ....*facepalm* yep, it was lol sorry
#3534 [15:58] <dopeghoti> ?? fubar/zonealarm
#3535 [15:58] <VoxelHead> fubar/zonealarm: Don't use ZoneAlarm. It's bloated, resource-heavy software that does more harm than good, and in fact is known to cause problems with Minecraft specifically, such as connecting to servers and falling endlessly through the void, or even crashing servers entirely.
#3536 [15:58] <VoxelHead> fubar/zonealarm: Official report thread about ZA-induce server crashes is here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crashes_in_multiplayer_socketexception_if_firewa
#3537 [15:58] <Tyrael> Kealper: trying...
#3538 [15:59] <KiaraBane> I'm still getting the same message @.@
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#3540 [15:59] <Kealper> KiaraBane: did you touch server.properties?
#3541 [15:59] <KiaraBane> no
#3542 [15:59] <Kealper> do you know how to find java.exe in the running processes and kill it?
#3543 [15:59] <KiaraBane> yep
#3544 [15:59] <Kealper> (or javaw.exe)
#3545 [16:00] <Tyrael> Kealper: success! I had authorized Minecraft in ZoneAlarm but apparently this was not enough.
#3546 [16:00] <Kealper> kill em all with fire, try again
#3547 [16:00] <Kealper> Tyrael: i could go in to why ZA makes it mess up, but the short answer is ZA is programmed very poorly, and can't handle minecraft
#3548 [16:00] <Tyrael> Oh, jeez. I did not authorize Minecraft_Server. Still, I should have seen a dialog box.
#3549 [16:01] <KiaraBane> Killed the java, still says outdated when I try to connect.
#3550 [16:01] <dopeghoti> Tyrael: seriously- DO NOT use ZoneAlarm
#3551 [16:01] <dopeghoti> you will have corrupt map and palyer_dat files
#3552 [16:01] <dopeghoti> and server/client crashes left and right
#3553 [16:01] <Tyrael> Are you suggesting to use teh Windows firewall instead?
#3554 [16:01] <Kealper> your computer will be better off if you just uninstall ZA
#3555 [16:01] <Kealper> Tyrael: yes
#3556 [16:01] <dopeghoti> That actually would be better than ZA
#3557 [16:02] <Kealper> Windows Firewall is actually not as bad as you'd think... (atleast in Windows 7 it's not)
#3558 [16:02] <Tyrael> ok, will try, thanks.
#3559 [16:03] <Yust4fun92> i have buy a gift key , but when i want to activate it, they say that it is incorrect or already used , what do?
#3560 [16:03] <Kealper> Yust4fun92: has it already been used?
#3561 [16:03] <Yust4fun92> no
#3562 [16:03] <Kealper> Yust4fun92: are you typing it correctly?
#3563 [16:03] <dopeghoti> Yust4fun92: does it show in your profile as used?
#3564 [16:03] <Yust4fun92> yes, i have checked
#3565 [16:04] <dopeghoti> Are you typing it exactly as it appears, with hyphens?
#3566 [16:04] <Yust4fun92> no
#3567 [16:04] <dopeghoti> Yust4fun92: does it show in your profile as *un*used?
#3568 [16:04] <Yust4fun92> i write it without -
#3569 [16:04] <Yust4fun92> where ?
#3570 [16:04] <Kealper> oh, yeah it needs the hyphens
#3571 [16:04] <dopeghoti> Write it _with_ hyphens, not without.
#3572 [16:04] <Yust4fun92> with these " - " ?
#3573 [16:04] <Kealper> yes
#3574 [16:04] <Yust4fun92> ok wait
#3575 [16:04] <Kealper> type it EXACTLY as you see it
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#3577 [16:05] <Yust4fun92> The gift code is incorrect, or has already been used.
#3578 [16:05] <Yust4fun92> e.G: 9d74-gt9r-bgh5
#3579 [16:05] <Yust4fun92> i type it as you see
#3580 [16:05] <Kealper> i hope that was not your gift code you just pasted in here :/
#3581 [16:05] <dopeghoti> well, if it wasn't used before, it is now :p
#3582 [16:06] <Yust4fun92> but, who used it? i have bought it , not another person
#3583 [16:06] <Yust4fun92> also it´s my key gift
#3584 [16:06] <Kealper> let's get this solved before an unsavory person sees that then :/
#3585 [16:07] <dopeghoti> you just gave it to everyone in this channel. Hopefully folks in here are ethical.
#3586 [16:07] <Yust4fun92> nono
#3587 [16:07] <Yust4fun92> it was a example
#3588 [16:07] <Kealper> oh..ok lol
#3589 [16:07] <KiaraBane> GL with that... I don't need it but ppl can't always be trusted ((unsavoury types))
#3590 [16:07] <Diablothein> http://www.leekspin.com/
#3591 [16:07] <Yust4fun92> not the right key , which i have bought
#3592 [16:07] <KiaraBane> When you guys have a moment... I just got this: Internet exception: java/net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#3593 [16:07] <Yust4fun92> and now?
#3594 [16:08] <Kealper> Yust4fun92: go to your profile page on minecraft.net and check to make sure it has your gift code marked as unused
#3595 [16:08] <Yust4fun92> okay wait pls
#3596 [16:09] <Kealper> so...i'm seriously thinking of making a nickserv bot for my chat program
#3597 [16:09] <Tyrael> Thanks everybody, bye
#3598 [16:09] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper is your chat program like an IRC clone?
#3599 [16:09] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: it's like IRC for dummies
#3600 [16:10] <SkiingPenguins> ah
#3601 [16:10] <SkiingPenguins> Diablothein thats funny website
#3602 [16:10] <KiaraBane> Anythiing else I can try on the outdated server problem? ;.;
#3603 [16:10] <Kealper> both in the sense of it's protocol is easier to parse than IRC, and my client is literally just run, enter username into box, start chatting
#3604 [16:10] <SkiingPenguins> neat
#3605 [16:11] <Kealper> KiaraBane: this will sound rather weird...but try restarting your computer, then redownloading the server software
#3606 [16:11] <KiaraBane> Worth a shot... I might be back. I'll try it.
#3607 [16:15] <lemon-rev> interesting quesiton since the update has the servers gotten any better with bandwith i see people still get mass lag problems so prob not, but with maps loading up quicker and whatnot, but its just a question :)
#3608 [16:16] <Diablothein> Go here: http://www.instantsfun.es/ press Epic?!
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#3610 [16:18] <lemon-rev> reminds me of old arcade machines
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#3612 [16:23] <KiaraBane> hiiii guys... still having that "outdated server" issue ;.;
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#3614 [16:24] <relsqui> the server is probably still outdated
#3615 [16:24] <KiaraBane> Downloaded anew, still same message.
#3616 [16:25] <KiaraBane> It's working for everyone else. Not the problem.
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#3619 [16:26] <KiaraBane> Any other suggestions? Restarting didn't work :<
#3620 [16:28] <CoLoN> how come when spawning 64 eggs it gives me 16 or 48?
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#3624 [16:35] <KiaraBane> Anyone alive?
#3625 [16:35] <xales> nope
#3626 [16:35] <KiaraBane> Shucks, I really need some guidance
#3627 [16:35] <TheNytangel> nope
#3628 [16:35] <TheNytangel> with what
#3629 [16:37] <KiaraBane> I'm trying to set up a multiplayer server and was in here less than 30 min ago talking about it. I keep getting the message "server outdated"
#3630 [16:37] <TheNytangel> it isnt V1.3 for beta
#3631 [16:37] <KiaraBane> Most recent suggestion from someone in here was to try restarting. I did, came back, didn't work. So I'm back.
#3632 [16:38] <TheNytangel> what version is it
#3633 [16:38] <TheNytangel> are you hosting it or is it a dedicated server?
#3634 [16:38] <KiaraBane> I've played mp on it before as a host.
#3635 [16:38] <KiaraBane> Trying to set up a private server as a host but for whatever reason it's not working this time.
#3636 [16:38] <TheNytangel> define "host"
#3637 [16:39] <KiaraBane> I set up the server, I log in, I click multiplayer, and where others will enter my ip I enter "localhost"
#3638 [16:39] <xales> KiaraBane: you need to download the latest version of the server software
#3639 [16:39] <KiaraBane> I did
#3640 [16:39] <TheNytangel> ^
#3641 [16:39] <KiaraBane> :/
#3642 [16:39] <KiaraBane> I did, same story.
#3643 [16:39] <xales> KiaraBane: are you using any mods or wrappers (Bukkit)?
#3644 [16:39] <KiaraBane> Nope.
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#3646 [16:40] <xales> And your client is version 1.3?
#3647 [16:40] <TheNytangel> where did you download the software
#3648 [16:40] <xales> ^
#3649 [16:40] <KiaraBane> The minecraft website
#3650 [16:40] <TheNytangel> psh, shh xales, i just wanted to know :P
#3651 [16:40] <KiaraBane> And yes, 1.3
#3652 [16:40] <TheNytangel> link? :P
#3653 [16:41] <TheNytangel> is it like, minecraft.net/servers.jsp or something?
#3654 [16:41] <KiaraBane> http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#3655 [16:41] <KiaraBane> Yep
#3656 [16:41] <xales> KiaraBane: Wrong page
#3657 [16:41] <xales> use this
#3658 [16:41] <xales> !server
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#3660 [16:42] <TheNytangel> ^
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#3662 [16:42] <TheNytangel> i win again by mistake :P
#3663 [16:42] <Draglems1> Do mobs still come out if you go to bed?
#3664 [16:42] <TheNytangel> it skips to morning
#3665 [16:42] <TheNytangel> doesnt it?
#3666 [16:42] <TheNytangel> so no
#3667 [16:42] <Draglems1> Oh.
#3668 [16:42] <Draglems1> Then i guess i'll need to wait.
#3669 [16:42] <Draglems1> before I'm trying to get a pet spider.
#3670 [16:43] <KiaraBane> OHMIGOD. LOL. Thanks, it worked. That was just the link I'd been sent before. Thanks!
#3671 [16:43] <TheNytangel> a pet spider..
#3672 [16:43] <Draglems1> Yes.
#3673 [16:43] <TheNytangel> not a good idea?
#3674 [16:43] <Draglems1> Why?
#3675 [16:43] <KiaraBane> Ew no lol
#3676 [16:43] <xales> KiaraBane: no problem - just so you know, that link was for the Classic server
#3677 [16:43] <Draglems1> I had one before.
#3678 [16:43] <Draglems1> It ran away though.
#3679 [16:43] <TheNytangel> did it keel you?
#3680 [16:43] <Draglems1> No.
#3681 [16:43] <TheNytangel> lol
#3682 [16:43] <TheNytangel> i would too
#3683 [16:43] <Draglems1> Because I'm not a idiot.
#3684 [16:43] <TheNytangel> well
#3685 [16:43] <Draglems1> I put torches everywhere in my house.
#3686 [16:43] <KiaraBane> x.x someone failed, and then I failed to realize. Double-fail.
#3687 [16:43] <wiggy90000> for some reason im still having trouble with the new launcher on my mac. The launcher screen looks weird, and when I try and connect it instantly says "cannot connect to minecraft.net" - it doesnt appear to try and connect whatsoever. this is what my launcher screen looks like http://oi53.tinypic.com/ipqctw.jpg
#3688 [16:44] <Draglems1> NOO
#3689 [16:44] <Draglems1> I GOT INTO BED -.-
#3690 [16:44] <Kealper> wiggy90000: seems to be an issue with macs right now...your best bet is to find someone that has the older launcher :/
#3691 [16:45] <Draglems1> Phew..
#3692 [16:45] <Draglems1> Saving while you're in bed cancels it.
#3693 [16:45] <KiaraBane> XD funny though, I spawned on top of a tree.... okay, Imma see if my bf can connect now. Cross yer fingers for me.
#3694 [16:45] <xales> hi Kealper
#3695 [16:45] <Kealper> ello
#3696 [16:45] <xales> plan on falling asleep in 2 hours again? D:
#3697 [16:45] <wiggy90000> oh alright, just because i had this problem like 2 days ago when it first came out, and when i was reading Notch's twitter he said that he had included dependencies on java 6 which were causing the mac problems and he's fixed it since then, but i still have the problem
#3698 [16:45] <Kealper> nah, sorry about that xD
#3699 [16:46] <xales> wiggy90000: try this - open Applications->Utilities->Terminal
#3700 [16:46] <Draglems1> omfg
#3701 [16:46] <Draglems1> I love C418 - cat xD
#3702 [16:46] <xales> and type "nslookup minecraft.net" and hit enter
#3703 [16:46] <xales> it will tell you something like
#3704 [16:46] <xales> Name: minecraft.net
#3705 [16:46] <xales> Address: 50.16.203.217
#3706 [16:46] <xales> can you paste that part in here?
#3707 [16:47] <wiggy90000> ~ wiggy90000$ nslookup minecraft.net
#3708 [16:47] <wiggy90000> Server: 192.168.1.1
#3709 [16:47] <wiggy90000> Address: 192.168.1.1#53
#3710 [16:47] <wiggy90000> Non-authoritative answer:
#3711 [16:47] <wiggy90000> Name: minecraft.net
#3712 [16:47] <Kealper> !unload mod_nospam
#3713 [16:47] <wiggy90000> Address: 50.16.203.217
#3714 [16:47] <Kealper> !load mod_nospam
#3715 [16:47] <Draglems1> !unload mód_spam
#3716 [16:47] <Draglems1> faiil..
#3717 [16:47] <Draglems1> <_,
#3718 [16:48] <Kealper> it'll ignore you anyways
#3719 [16:48] <Draglems1> Oh really?
#3720 [16:48] <Draglems1> I was doing it as a joke
#3721 [16:48] <Draglems1> Where can i find slimes? I mean.. i don't really understand it in the wiki
#3722 [16:48] <Kealper> deeeeep down in caves
#3723 [16:49] <Draglems1> Bed rock?
#3724 [16:49] <Kealper> close to it
#3725 [16:49] <Draglems1> o_o
#3726 [16:49] <Diablothein> Not that far.
#3727 [16:49] <Kealper> just really deep cave systems is where you find them
#3728 [16:49] <xales> wiggy90000: that's the correct address, so you'll just have to wait for a fix it seems
#3729 [16:49] <Draglems1> Whats the point in that?
#3730 [16:49] <Diablothein> Just about 50-64 below water.
#3731 [16:49] <wiggy90000> alright thanks, does anyone else have the same problem as me? i feel like im the only one stuck with this mac problem still :(
#3732 [16:50] <Kealper> Diablothein: that's deep...lol
#3733 [16:50] * Kealper makes a NickServ for his chat
#3733 [16:50] <Diablothein> Not really :D
#3734 [16:50] <xales> Kealper: Make a ServServ first and have it be how the Servs communicate >:D
#3735 [16:51] <Kealper> same levels as diamond ore
#3736 [16:51] <xales> wiggy90000: try redownloading the launcher - http://minecraft.net/download.jsp if you haven't already
#3737 [16:51] <Kealper> xales: it's not that advanced of a chat lol
#3738 [16:51] <xales> Kealper: doesn't matter
#3739 [16:51] <xales> DO IT ANYWAY :D
#3740 [16:51] <Kealper> lol
#3741 [16:51] <xales> also, I lol'd
#3742 [16:51] <xales> 16:51:04 < blitzzcrank> does any1 has a good server running bukkit(homeset working), i would give a blowjob if ip given
#3743 [16:51] <Kealper> lol
#3744 [16:51] <Draglems1> btw I don't get it.
#3745 [16:51] <Draglems1> how come creeper isn't dropping discs for me?
#3746 [16:52] <Draglems1> I make a skeleton kill it..
#3747 [16:52] <Diablothein> xales, whereat?
#3748 [16:52] <xales> Diablothein: #mcchatter
#3749 [16:52] <Kealper> Draglems1: the skeleton has to actually give it the killing arrow
#3750 [16:52] <wiggy90000> xales: ive downloaded it like 6 times since the new update came out till today and ive had this same problem since, with the launcher screen looking weird and it instantly saying it "cant connect to minecraft.net" instead of appearing to time out
#3751 [16:52] <Draglems1> Yes, It is.
#3752 [16:52] <Draglems1> Its killing the creeper.
#3753 [16:52] <Kealper> Draglems1: unlucky? lol
#3754 [16:52] <Draglems1> Um..
#3755 [16:52] <Draglems1> Wow, I'm a retard. ^_^
#3756 [16:53] * Kealper headtilts
#3756 [16:53] <Draglems1> I just ran inside of my house when 2-3 creepers was chasing me. ^_^
#3757 [16:53] <Kealper> XD
#3758 [16:53] <Draglems1> OH SHII
#3759 [16:53] <Draglems1> Here comes the boom!!
#3760 [16:53] <Diablothein> Kealper, I read: heattits.
#3761 [16:53] <Kealper> Diablothein: >.>
#3762 [16:53] <Draglems1> Oh phew..
#3763 [16:53] <Draglems1> it didn't boom.
#3764 [16:53] <xales> wiggy90000: in the Terminal window, try this
#3765 [16:53] <xales> "telnet www.minecraft.net 443"
#3766 [16:53] <Diablothein> Must be nice...
#3767 [16:54] <Draglems1> oh crap
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#3769 [16:54] <Draglems1> Fell down the lader..
#3770 [16:54] <Draglems1> RUN
#3771 [16:54] <Draglems1> and theres a chunk of my house gone.
#3772 [16:54] <Kealper> :/
#3773 [16:55] * xales brb
#3773 [16:55] <Diablothein> Sounds like someone built with sand :D
#3774 [16:55] <Draglems1> Who? Me?
#3775 [16:55] <Draglems1> No, wood.
#3776 [16:56] <Draglems1> It just exploded in a corner.
#3777 [16:56] <Draglems1> Now.. to find a spider...for a pet.
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#3779 [16:56] <wiggy90000> xales: got this
#3780 [16:56] <wiggy90000> ~ wiggy90000$ telnet wwww.minecraft.net 443
#3781 [16:56] <wiggy90000> Trying 208.68.139.89...
#3782 [16:56] <wiggy90000> telnet: connect to address 208.68.139.89: Operation timed out
#3783 [16:56] <wiggy90000> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
#3784 [16:57] <xales> O_o
#3785 [16:57] <xales> try "nslookup www.minecraft.net"
#3786 [16:57] <xales> paste just the "Address: " part
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#3788 [16:58] <wiggy90000> Address: 192.168.1.1#53
#3789 [16:58] <xales> oh, sorry, I mean the second Address part
#3790 [16:58] <xales> underneath "Host: "
#3791 [16:58] <Draglems1> Odd.
#3792 [16:58] <Draglems1> no spiders.
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#3794 [16:59] <wiggy90000> didnt have a host thing, so i coped the part below what i just sent you
#3795 [16:59] <wiggy90000> Non-authoritative answer:
#3796 [16:59] <wiggy90000> www.minecraft.net canonical name = mc-main-1819944940.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com.
#3797 [16:59] <wiggy90000> Name: mc-main-1819944940.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com
#3798 [16:59] <wiggy90000> Address: 184.72.219.240
#3799 [17:00] <xales> well, I see the problem
#3800 [17:00] <xales> but I have absolutely NO idea why, or even how, it could do that
#3801 [17:00] <wiggy90000> whats the problem?
#3802 [17:01] <xales> wiggy90000: for some reason, it's pointing to a different IP when you try to connect via SSL (port 443)
#3803 [17:02] <xales> wiggy90000: try this "sudo dscacheutil -flushcache"
#3804 [17:02] <xales> it will prompt you for your password - enter the password you use to login to the computer (admin password)
#3805 [17:02] <KiaraBane> merrrrr so I got the server set up but now my friend can't connect... this is sooooo not my day
#3806 [17:03] <Kyll> So, I'm back... Let's try to resolve this
#3807 [17:03] <Kyll> Here's the situation:
#3808 [17:03] <xales> KiaraBane: Did you port forward? What IP is your friend using?
#3809 [17:03] <Draglems1> Er sorrybut
#3810 [17:03] <Draglems1> is this a glitch/
#3811 [17:03] <Draglems1> When iplant a bamboo/sugar cane
#3812 [17:03] <Draglems1> and place another one.. it breaks and then clones 2/
#3813 [17:04] <Draglems1> I had 10 and then i get 10.
#3814 [17:04] <xales> Draglems1: I'd imagine so
#3815 [17:04] <wiggy90000> xales: i typed it in once, prompted me for password which i entered (though it didnt verify i was entering it in terminal), i pressed enter and it went back to a standard prompt i usually get when i start terminal. i tried the command again and it wont ask me for password
#3816 [17:04] <Draglems1> 12*
#3817 [17:04] <Kyll> When I connect to a Beta server, after a while, my computer totally crash. Blue screen and strange noise... Then, he reboots. Somebody got an idea?
#3818 [17:04] <xales> wiggy90000: yup - that's exactly what it should do. see if it works now
#3819 [17:04] <xales> Kyll: can you describe the noise?
#3820 [17:05] <Kealper> xales: i'll make it join the chat as "ServServ" then have it use psuedo-clients for stuff like NickServ and such
#3821 [17:05] <wiggy90000> xales: still almost immediately says it cant connect to minecraft.net
#3822 [17:05] <xales> Kealper: \o/ epic. also, look at wiggy90000's problem.
#3823 [17:05] * Kealper looks
#3823 [17:06] <Kyll> Xales: In fact, the last song of the music (Let's say "lidou") repeats extremely fast ("lidouidouidoudoudouidou"...)
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#3825 [17:06] <xales> Kyll: is it a laptop, or a desktop?
#3826 [17:06] <Kyll> Xales: A desktop
#3827 [17:06] <dopeghoti> 'lo
#3828 [17:07] <Draglems1> wow
#3829 [17:07] <xales> Kyll: on the back of the computer, can you locate a fan blowing air outwards (out from the compter)
#3830 [17:07] <Draglems1> Why did only creepers come out?
#3831 [17:07] <snarfy> After formatting and upgrading form vista to 7 i can no longer run minecraft. I have 2.6ghz dual, 8800gts 2gb ram with latets java and nvidia updates but when i run minecraft it is extremely slow (looks about 1-2 FPS) even on the menu. I have no issues running LOL or Black ops. Help!
#3832 [17:07] <Kyll> I-don't-remember-who suggested perhaps it was a problem of hardware
#3833 [17:07] <Kyll> Xales: I take a look
#3834 [17:08] <xales> Kyll: it does sound like hardware
#3835 [17:09] <Kyll> Xales: Yes, I see the hole of the alimentation
#3836 [17:09] <xales> snarfy: try turning off "smooth lighting" in options->graphics options
#3837 [17:09] <snarfy> Will give it a go
#3838 [17:10] <xales> Kyll: ok, get it to crash again, and see if the air blowing out from that is very hot (like, uncomfortable to hold your hand there hot)
#3839 [17:10] <Kyll> Xales: Okay, let's meet the bluescreen
#3840 [17:10] <Kyll> Xales: Perhaps with flowers?
#3841 [17:10] <xales> Kyll: might help ;)
#3842 [17:11] <Kyll> Xales: Let's try!
#3843 [17:11] <dopeghoti> but.. allergies!
#3844 [17:11] <Kyll> Oh, true
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#3846 [17:11] <Kyll> Chocolates?
#3847 [17:11] <dopeghoti> Souls.
#3848 [17:11] <dopeghoti> Windows eats souls.
#3849 [17:11] <Kyll> Of course
#3850 [17:11] <Kyll> (And errors, but that's a secret!)
#3851 [17:12] <feenyx> I have chocolate
#3852 [17:12] <wiggy90000> xales: is there any way to redirect minecraft to connect to the correct ip address?
#3853 [17:12] <xorcon> i=I have windoes.
#3854 [17:12] <dopeghoti> Kyll: no, that's the other end.
#3855 [17:12] <dopeghoti> windows eats souls and craps out errors.
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#3857 [17:12] <mddtsk> Hey folks: any way to start a server with a specific seed?
#3858 [17:12] <Kyll> Oo
#3859 [17:12] <xales> wiggy90000: not really =/
#3860 [17:12] * xales has to go =/
#3860 [17:12] <xorcon> anyone here use mcadmin?
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#3862 [17:13] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: what OS? (I just got back)
#3863 [17:13] <wiggy90000> alright well thanks for your help, im sure ill be in again tonight trying to fix this
#3864 [17:13] <Reuven> Hello everyone
#3865 [17:13] <wiggy90000> os x
#3866 [17:13] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: yes: /etc/hosts
#3867 [17:13] <Kyll> Dopeghoti: Do you know this one? It popped last week: "An error occured while genrating the error report"
#3868 [17:13] <mddtsk> Anyone? I cannot be the first to have asked this.
#3869 [17:13] <snarfy> turning off smooth lighting seems to have had no effect.
#3870 [17:13] <Kyll> generating*
#3871 [17:13] <wiggy90000> what do you want me to do dopeghoti?
#3872 [17:13] <dopeghoti> Kyll: not off the top of my head, sorry.
#3873 [17:14] <Kyll> =(
#3874 [17:14] <snarfy> I don't think its a graphics issue given that the menu is super slow also.
#3875 [17:14] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: you want to force minecraft.net to go to the correct IP; to do so, put an entry in /etc/hosts.
#3876 [17:14] <Kyll> Let's go to crash
#3877 [17:14] <Kyll> Does anybody have a pure soul?
#3878 [17:14] <xorcon> are the smp servers down?
#3879 [17:15] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: though.. the better answer would be to use a DNS server that doesn't suck
#3880 [17:15] <Draglems1> Googles?
#3881 [17:15] <dopeghoti> 8.8.8.8 (:
#3882 [17:15] <wiggy90000> i dont know what you mean by put an entry in /etc/hosts? sorry haha
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#3884 [17:15] <Draglems1> I know what googles is.
#3885 [17:15] <Draglems1> I was suggesting it.
#3886 [17:15] <Kyll> Okay, I'm in the server
#3887 [17:15] <Kyll> I will crash soon
#3888 [17:15] <Draglems1> ^
#3889 [17:15] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: let's start with your DNS settings, then. Go to System Preferences -> Network
#3890 [17:15] <mddtsk> How do you seed a world when starting a server?
#3891 [17:16] <Draglems1> ^Dunno.
#3892 [17:16] <Draglems1> ./poofs
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#3894 [17:16] <wiggy90000> alright what from there?
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#3896 [17:17] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: on the left, select Ethernet; on the right, what have you got for 'DNS Server'?
#3897 [17:17] <wiggy90000> im connected wirelessly through airport which gives me no dns settings
#3898 [17:17] <Reuven> Hey guys, I have a multiplayer issue. With the 1.3 update I can't stay connected, can't effect blocks or doors. I lag terribly. Before the update everything was fine. I get the error of Internal Exception: java.net.socket: socket exeption: Connection Reset." Heeeeeeelp?
#3899 [17:17] <Kyll> The air is cool...
#3900 [17:17] <KiaraBane> Zoinks. Is there a step-by-step guide for hosting a server that I can follow? I can't find the one I used to use.
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#3902 [17:17] <TheNytangel> i downloaded the minecraft_server.exe, now how do i find my IP?
#3903 [17:17] <dopeghoti> okay, so select Airport rather than Ethernet
#3904 [17:17] <snarfy> should minecraft be run in a specific compatability mode?
#3905 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - whatismyip.com
#3906 [17:18] <TheNytangel> then?
#3907 [17:18] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: then click Advanced, and then go to the TCP/IP tab
#3908 [17:18] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: sorry, the DNS tab
#3909 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - That's the public IP you give to people, after you port forward and set up whatever firewalls you have
#3910 [17:18] <wiggy90000> im there
#3911 [17:18] <dopeghoti> what DNS servers have you in there?
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#3913 [17:19] <wiggy90000> just one which is 192.168.1.1
#3914 [17:19] <nevercast> Hi wiggy90000
#3915 [17:19] <dopeghoti> click it, then click the '-' below the list
#3916 [17:19] <TheNytangel> what firewalls?
#3917 [17:19] <dopeghoti> then, click the '+', type 8.8.8.8, and press Return
#3918 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Depends on the system, do you have windows? Is Windows firewall configured? Are you running any other security software?
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#3920 [17:20] <wiggy90000> dopeghoti: the "-" button is greyed out so i cant remove it
#3921 [17:20] <nevercast> xales, dopeghoti , GreyVulpine, hows it?
#3922 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Yo
#3923 [17:20] <Kyll> I lost Internet...
#3924 [17:20] <TheNytangel> i am running windows..
#3925 [17:20] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: okay, use '+' first
#3926 [17:20] <nevercast> dopeghoti: Google Root Domain Server <3
#3927 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Then "firewall.cpl" in the Run command to bring up the firewall configuration page
#3928 [17:20] <wiggy90000> ok i added 8.8.8.8
#3929 [17:20] <dopeghoti> once 8.8.8.8 is on the list, click on the other entry, and the '-' should be clickable
#3930 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Either turn it off completely, or set it up so that port 25565 is let through
#3931 [17:21] <wiggy90000> haha dopeghoti now "192.168.1.1" is greyed out an unclickable
#3932 [17:21] <dopeghoti> uh.
#3933 [17:21] <nevercast> dopeghoti: removing 192.168.1.1 from your domain list, wont that prevent local network resolution?
#3934 [17:21] <dopeghoti> No
#3935 [17:21] <dopeghoti> (this is DNS, not routing)
#3936 [17:21] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine - is it TCP or UDP
#3937 [17:21] <nevercast> I mean for LAN domains
#3938 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Minecraft uses TCP for now, but that could change in the future
#3939 [17:22] <nevercast> hostnames == domains?
#3940 [17:22] <dopeghoti> (this is _DNS_, not _routing_)
#3941 [17:22] <wiggy90000> dopeghoti my DNS screen looks like this http://oi51.tinypic.com/29cs87p.jpg
#3942 [17:22] <dopeghoti> ah.. Eff LAN domains :p
#3943 [17:22] <Reuven> Is there someone that I can talk to about multiplayer? I need help.
#3944 [17:22] <nevercast> dopeghoti: lol.. Fair enough :P He should be using static IP's anyway
#3945 [17:23] <TheNytangel> my connection keeps timing out
#3946 [17:23] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: wierd. *shrug* click OK, then Apply (if _that_ is lit up)
#3947 [17:23] <nevercast> TheNytangel: all servers or just one?
#3948 [17:23] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: then open the Terminal again
#3949 [17:23] <TheNytangel> i dunno
#3950 [17:23] <snarfy> After formatting and upgrading form vista to 7 i can no longer run minecraft. I have 2.6ghz dual, 8800gts 2gb ram with latets java and nvidia updates but when i run minecraft it is extremely slow (looks about 1-2 FPS) even on the menu. I have no issues running LOL or Black ops. Any suggestions, all grapics are minimum.
#3951 [17:23] <TheNytangel> i havent tried any others yet
#3952 [17:23] <nevercast> TheNytangel: Try another
#3953 [17:23] <wiggy90000> kk, terminals up
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#3955 [17:24] <lemon-rev> snarfy if you close minecraft do you get an error log
#3956 [17:24] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: please give the the output of this command: `host www.minecraft.net`
#3957 [17:24] <snarfy> @lemon-rev nope.
#3958 [17:24] <wiggy90000> www.minecraft.net is an alias for mc-main-1819944940.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com.
#3959 [17:24] <wiggy90000> mc-main-1819944940.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com has address 184.72.219.240
#3960 [17:24] <lemon-rev> snarfy your video card drivers uptodate ?
#3961 [17:24] <snarfy> yes.
#3962 [17:24] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: looks good
#3963 [17:25] <lemon-rev> when did you do the update ? and can yuo run minecraft from the browsser
#3964 [17:25] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: let's see if Minecraft works now.
#3965 [17:25] <dopeghoti> (make it quick, my lunch break is over (: )
#3966 [17:25] <TheNytangel> nevercast: just one
#3967 [17:26] <snarfy> @lemon-rev Did the update an hour or so ago, will just check if i can play the browser version
#3968 [17:26] <lemon-rev> kk
#3969 [17:27] <wiggy90000> dopeghoti: still have the same problem where it almost immediately says "cant connect to minecraft.net". it seems like it doesnt even try to connect. also, my launcher itsself still appears broken: http://oi52.tinypic.com/j0wvuf.jpg
#3970 [17:27] <snarfy> @lemon-rev it runs on browser but very slowly (although not quite a slow as the client). Must be a general java issue, any other java apps i could test to verify this?
#3971 [17:28] <TheNytangel> nevercast: still there?
#3972 [17:28] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: are you connected directly to the internet, or are you going through a proxy of some sort?
#3973 [17:28] <Reuven> Hello? Can anyone read me?
#3974 [17:28] <lemon-rev> snarfy not sure about the java side it sounds more java than anything else now
#3975 [17:28] <dopeghoti> Reuven: No.
#3976 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes Reuven
#3977 [17:28] <BurnZeZ> Reuven: no.
#3978 [17:28] <BurnZeZ> :(
#3979 [17:28] <wiggy90000> no proxy just a basic wireless connection. ive never had this problem before until i got rid of the old client and got the new launcher
#3980 [17:28] <BurnZeZ> Why you steal my joke?
#3981 [17:28] <BurnZeZ> Before I do it?
#3982 [17:28] <lemon-rev> snarfy you could try running a java type game
#3983 [17:28] <Reuven> Okay, yeay.
#3984 [17:29] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: Are you aware of Earthbound's anti-piracy features?
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#3986 [17:29] <snarfy> lemon-rev such as? :D
#3987 [17:29] <dopeghoti> I've never played Earthbound.
#3988 [17:29] <BurnZeZ> Ah.
#3989 [17:29] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: that's.. interesting.
#3990 [17:29] <Reuven> I am getting some truely terrible lag with Multiplayer. Can anyone help me with some troubleshooting? Things worked great before the newest update.
#3991 [17:29] <lemon-rev> well i just put into browswer java games, came up with
#3992 [17:29] <wiggy90000> i know right? i dont understand what the problem is
#3993 [17:30] <dopeghoti> wiggy90000: can you play via the web-based client?
#3994 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Reuven - Tried turning down your graphics settings?
#3995 [17:30] <Nyxe> Anyone having troubles hosting a server? "kicking /ip: Need to log in!" with both local/external connections.
#3996 [17:30] <BurnZeZ> We're at 1.3_01 right?
#3997 [17:30] <Reuven> Hm. I'll try that.
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#3999 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Nyxe - You're most likely running a classic server, while connecting with a beta client
#4000 [17:30] <CaNDo> has anyone minecraft Beta Version 1.2_01? Please
#4001 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Nyxe - How are you starting the server? With start-server.bat?
#4002 [17:30] <BurnZeZ> CaNDo: Can't give stuff like that out.
#4003 [17:30] <BurnZeZ> Illegal.
#4004 [17:30] <dopeghoti> ??> CaNDo distribution
#4005 [17:30] <VoxelHead> CaNDo: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#4006 [17:30] <Nyxe> yes
#4007 [17:30] <VoxelHead> CaNDo: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#4008 [17:31] <wiggy90000> dopeghoti: then i go to www.minecraft.net/game, it just has the header of the site with no game loading or anything loading under the big text "Beta"
#4009 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Nyxe - Then that's the classic server, you can find the beta server at http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#4010 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page Nyxe
#4011 [17:31] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: You love the bot commands. XD
#4012 [17:31] <Nyxe> thanks
#4013 [17:31] <BurnZeZ> Of course, it probably gets old.
#4014 [17:31] <dopeghoti> ??> wiggy90000 mac/profile
#4015 [17:31] <VoxelHead> wiggy90000: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4016 [17:31] <VoxelHead> wiggy90000: (mac/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#4018 [17:32] <snarfy> @lemon-rev Only found really basic, old java games on google and they run fine. Would reinstalling java help?
#4019 [17:33] <Reuven> Well, I feel like a dullard. I turned my GFx down to Apple II and now things are good for the moment.
#4020 [17:33] <wiggy90000> alright dopeghoti ill go check in a new account both the game and the web based version
#4021 [17:33] <wiggy90000> brb
#4022 [17:33] <feenyx> Apple IIe or II+ you mean?
#4023 [17:33] <feenyx> very few people had an actual II
#4024 [17:33] <TheNytangel> my connection keeps timing out
#4025 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Reuven - I lag on my server as well. Some have reported a temp fix with turning down the graphics settings
#4026 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Reuven - I honestly think it's the server.
#4027 [17:34] <Reuven> It's being run for free on a buddy's machien at this house.
#4028 [17:34] <lemon-rev> snarfy yes
#4029 [17:35] <CaNDo> ¨chtìl bych si zahrat minecraft ale nemù¾u najít klienta a server version Beta 1.2_01
#4030 [17:35] <CaNDo> I would like to play minecraft but I can not find the client and server beta version 1.2_01
#4031 [17:35] <Reuven> Man, I was updating drivers, doing ping tests, yelling at my ISP... >.>
#4032 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> CaNDo - We don't provide links or downloads for old versions here
#4033 [17:36] <TheNytangel> ok
#4034 [17:36] <TheNytangel> no one help me
#4035 [17:36] <TheNytangel> :P
#4036 [17:36] <CaNDo> oh ok :-(
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#4038 [17:37] <Nyxe> GreyVulpine - I'm getting a different error now, When i try to connect it says "response code 503 for url..." any ideas?
#4039 [17:37] <dopeghoti> feenyx: the Apple ][ was actually rather popular :p
#4040 [17:37] <Blood_display> Dopeghoti: Is Minecraft on?
#4041 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is up and the auth server is working
#4042 [17:37] * dopeghoti flips a switch. "...yep"
#4042 [17:37] <Blood_display> 68.215.108.142
#4043 [17:37] <CaNDo> And you do not know 1.3_0.1 server? :)
#4044 [17:38] <Blood_display> GreyVulpine: I got Minecraft working on my laptop
#4045 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> CaNDo - There is no 1.3_01 server.
#4046 [17:38] <Blood_display> But when I build
#4047 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> The latest is 1.3
#4048 [17:38] <Blood_display> The floor disapears
#4049 [17:38] <Blood_display> than reapears
#4050 [17:38] <Blood_display> than disapears
#4051 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Blood_display - Huh?
#4052 [17:38] <Blood_display> than reapears
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#4054 [17:38] <Blood_display> When I build the blocks disapear than apears again
#4055 [17:38] <Blood_display> !check 68.215.108.142
#4056 [17:38] * GreyVulpine shrugs. I get that as well playing on servers
#4056 [17:38] <Kealper> Blood_display: move away from the spawn point
#4057 [17:38] <testprofile> dopeghoti of course as soon as i try and do that minecraft.net goes down
#4058 [17:38] <dopeghoti> Blood_display: don't play on servers running behing IP-over-cerrier-pigeon
#4059 [17:39] <CaNDo> and server for 1.2 ?
#4060 [17:39] * dopeghoti goes back to work
#4060 [17:39] <Blood_display> What do you mean Dope?
#4061 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> CaNDo - ?
#4062 [17:39] <Kealper> Blood_display: it was a joke about being on laggy servers
#4063 [17:39] <CaNDo> And you do not know 1.2server? :-D
#4064 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> CaNDo - 1.2 server is outdated and no longer supported here
#4065 [17:39] <dopeghoti> CaNDo: The only place to get the server is www.minecraft.net/download.jsp.
#4066 [17:39] <TheNytangel> ok
#4067 [17:39] <TheNytangel> i meant help me.. i was being sarcastic >.>
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#4069 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - >.>
#4070 [17:40] <TheNytangel> :P
#4071 [17:40] <Blood_display> My sever doesn't lag munch on my laptop anymore.
#4072 [17:40] <testprofile> dopeghoti: for some reason i cant change my nickname but im wiggy90000 signed into a new account.
#4073 [17:40] <Blood_display> Just waiting for Notch to fix the little lag left.
#4074 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Okay, question 1, you're running your own server, and time out, correct?
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#4077 [17:40] <TheNytangel> correct
#4078 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - How are you connecting to your server? Via what IP?
#4079 [17:41] <TheNytangel> 65.19.250.8:25565
#4080 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Are you able to connect for any period of time?
#4081 [17:41] <TheNytangel> no
#4082 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Can you try 127.0.0.1, if you're hosting on the same computer
#4083 [17:41] <testprofile> dopeghoti: im getting the same problem in a different user account as in my usual one
#4084 [17:41] <TheNytangel> it just says "Failed to connect to server"
#4085 [17:42] <TheNytangel> well it worked
#4086 [17:42] <TheNytangel> sort of
#4087 [17:42] <TheNytangel> there is no world under me
#4088 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Sort of?
#4089 [17:42] <TheNytangel> just sky and im bouncing up and down
#4090 [17:42] <CaNDo> 65.19.250.8:25565 - not connetc :-d
#4091 [17:42] <TheNytangel> ah
#4092 [17:42] <TheNytangel> there we go
#4093 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Then you have a firewall up that's not letting in connections
#4094 [17:42] <Blood_display> Ugh, i'm getting bored.
#4095 [17:43] <Blood_display> GreyVulpine: Can you please come on my server?
#4096 [17:43] <CoLoN> then play minecraft instead of watching chat
#4097 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Er, is it loading?
#4098 [17:43] <Blood_display> I'm bored and I need someone to play with. :S
#4099 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Blood_display - I'm a bit busy right now... heh.
#4100 [17:43] <TheNytangel> Blood_display: 65.19.250.8:25565
#4101 [17:43] <TheNytangel> :P
#4102 [17:43] <Blood_display> 68.215.108.142
#4103 [17:43] <Blood_display> Someone please come on my server-68.215.108.142
#4104 [17:44] <TheNytangel> firewall up that's not letting in connections?
#4105 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Are you still falling?
#4106 [17:45] <TheNytangel> no
#4107 [17:45] <TheNytangel> im fine now
#4108 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Ah, never mind then
#4109 [17:47] <TheNytangel> but
#4110 [17:47] <TheNytangel> it wont let other people connect?
#4111 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Then you haven't set up port forwarding correctly
#4112 [17:47] <TheNytangel> then how do i set it up >.>
#4113 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Double check everything, make sure your router's public IP address matches the one found at whatismyip.com
#4114 [17:48] <TheNytangel> wut
#4115 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> There's probably hundreds of routers out there, each with its own unique way to port forward, I couldn't possibly give you just one walkthrough. If you could tell us what router you have...
#4116 [17:49] <CaNDo> kde se ukládá SAVE ze hry ?
#4117 [17:49] <Blood_display> First one to come on gets free OP - 68.215.108.142
#4118 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Blood_display - Please don't use this channel to advertise. Use #smp
#4119 [17:49] <CaNDo> and stored SAVE the game?
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#4123 [17:51] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: belkin
#4124 [17:51] <Zanasj> is this channel only about the technical stuff, as opposed to gameplay stuff?
#4125 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Zanasj - Both
#4126 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Belkin... what?
#4127 [17:51] <Zanasj> ok cool
#4128 [17:52] <TheNytangel> erm
#4129 [17:52] <TheNytangel> no idea
#4130 [17:53] <TheNytangel> should i go check
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#4133 [17:54] <Kyll> Hello
#4134 [17:54] <Kyll> So, my computer juste crashed
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#4136 [17:54] <trez> Hello
#4137 [17:55] <Kyll> No hot air in the alimentation hole
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#4139 [17:55] <Kyll> Does somebody remember me? Have I to explain the problem?
#4140 [17:55] <xfateddiex> how do i join a server?
#4141 [17:56] <trez> I've been having problems connecting to minecraft through both the downloaded client and in the browser version on minecraft.net.
#4142 [17:56] <Kyll> xfateddiex: In the browser or in the game?
#4143 [17:56] <xfateddiex> in the game
#4144 [17:56] <xfateddiex> i googled a list of servers, but i cant connect to any
#4145 [17:56] <Kyll> xfateddiex: You have to click on "Multiplayer"
#4146 [17:56] <Kyll> Aoh
#4147 [17:56] <Kyll> Why?
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#4149 [17:56] <xfateddiex> either says it timed out or rejected connection
#4150 [17:57] <xfateddiex> do i need to sign up for servers?
#4151 [17:57] <Kyll> It depends of the server
#4152 [17:57] <Kyll> Some of them select the players
#4153 [17:57] <xfateddiex> is there a list of public servers? or do you know of any good ones?
#4154 [17:57] <Kyll> (In fact, most of them)
#4155 [17:57] <Kyll> Mh, wait a moment...
#4156 [17:58] <arensirb> In my client upper left corner it says default
#4157 [17:58] <arensirb> whats that?
#4158 [17:58] <trez> After logging in through the browser version the screen gets stuck at done loading. When connecting through the downloaded client after log in it gets past the Mojang logo screen then the screen goes black
#4159 [17:59] <trez> So I'm unable to access minecraft at all.
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#4161 [17:59] <Kyll> xfateddiex: Try this one, I connected to it last hour: 77.66.28.145
#4162 [17:59] <arensirb> trez: Sounds like you modded your minecraft
#4163 [17:59] <xfateddiex> cheers, mate
#4164 [17:59] <xfateddiex> i'll give it a go
#4165 [17:59] <arensirb> trez: go to %appdata%\.minecraft and delete bin folder
#4166 [18:00] <arensirb> start minecraft and let it redownload
#4167 [18:00] <trez> Alright, how would I "go" to that. Using run?
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#4169 [18:01] <Kyll> Here's my problem: When I connect to a server, my computer totally crash. I see for a few seconds a blue screen, and i hear strange noises, juste before a reboot.
#4170 [18:01] <Kyll> just*...
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#4172 [18:02] <trez> Alright, trying that
#4173 [18:03] <trez> Thanks so much! It worked :D
#4174 [18:03] <Kyll> Does anybody have an idea for my problem..?
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#4176 [18:06] <blinky> any solution why smp makes u lag up to 1 min behind?
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#4178 [18:07] <Kealper> gah.....just as i was writing what caused it
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#4180 [18:09] <smellme2> hello, is anyone else having framerate issues with the new update?
#4181 [18:09] <TheNytangel> ok GreyVulpine
#4182 [18:09] <TheNytangel> brb
#4183 [18:10] <Kealper> if you are having framerate issues, go in to the ingame settings, click Video Settings, and turn off Smooth Lighting
#4184 [18:11] <TheNytangel> back
#4185 [18:11] <smellme2> alright ill try that
#4186 [18:11] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, what did you want to know?
#4187 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> The exact model of your belkin router
#4188 [18:11] <TheNytangel> >.>
#4189 [18:12] <smellme2> what does smooth lighting even do? I cant even tell
#4190 [18:12] <TheNytangel> brb
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#4192 [18:12] <Kyll> Smellme2: I think it makes the shadows prettier...
#4193 [18:12] <Kealper> smellme2: smooth lighting does just that, instead of light being all chunky, it makes it smooth
#4194 [18:13] <smellme2> why so harsh on the frame rate?
#4195 [18:13] <Kealper> lots more calculations to do on the GPU, if your GPU already has enough on it's plate, then smooth lighting kills it even more
#4196 [18:13] <smellme2> explaining server lag...
#4197 [18:13] <smellme2> thanks
#4198 [18:13] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: F5D7230C
#4199 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - What operating system are you running?
#4200 [18:14] <Kealper> smellme2: that probably won't lag the server, but it will make your client run worse if you do not have a good computer :/
#4201 [18:14] <TheNytangel> Vista Home Premium
#4202 [18:14] <TheNytangel> 64 bit
#4203 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Can you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#4204 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, at the black command prompt, type: ipconfig
#4205 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Tell me your ipv4 and default gateway
#4206 [18:15] <Kyll> No idea for computing crash on a server?
#4207 [18:15] <TheNytangel> 192.168.2.3
#4208 [18:15] <smellme2> alright, how come chunk loading takes a lot longer now as well
#4209 [18:15] <Kealper> smellme2: new chunk format i would assume
#4210 [18:16] <smellme2> well not sure if this is a bukkit issue but when I teleport to the nether, everything is AOK, on the way back it takes about 15 seconds to load the world up to my point
#4211 [18:16] <Kealper> smellme2: could be a Bukkit issue
#4212 [18:17] <smellme2> could you try helping me with it assuming it is not a bukkit issue?
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#4214 [18:18] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine brb.. just PM me what to do, my sister is being a nub
#4215 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Well, the only way you could have the nether and the overworld running on the server is with a bukkit plugin
#4216 [18:18] <leaper> i have a question
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#4218 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> So we can't assume anything, since it's not a vanilla capability of the server
#4219 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> leaper - Shoot.
#4220 [18:18] <smellme2> alright
#4221 [18:18] <Blood_display> GreyVulpine: When can you come on my server
#4222 [18:18] <smellme2> its not that bad anyways
#4223 [18:18] <smellme2> thanks for the help though, adios
#4224 [18:18] <leaper> when i try and log onto the server i call home i get "connectioned timed out; Connect" what do i do to fix it
#4225 [18:18] <leaper> Connection*
#4226 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Blood_display - I'm sorry, but I can just join everybody's server on request.
#4227 [18:19] <Blood_display> K.
#4228 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> leaper - Then most likely, that server is down.
#4229 [18:19] <arensirb> mcnet down again?
#4230 [18:20] <arensirb> both launchers down now :S
#4231 [18:20] <Blood_display> TheNytangel: Come back if you want now
#4232 [18:20] <Tpimp> i need help, can i ask a question?
#4233 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Tpimp - Just ask
#4234 [18:21] <leaper> anyone have a freebuild server i can join then?
#4235 [18:21] <Tpimp> yea
#4236 [18:21] <Tpimp> i do
#4237 [18:21] <Tpimp> :D
#4238 [18:21] <Tpimp> but anyway
#4239 [18:21] <Tpimp> grey
#4240 [18:22] <Tpimp> when i try to downgrade minecraft it wont let me
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#4242 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Um, it won't let you?
#4243 [18:22] <Tpimp> ye
#4244 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Do you have the old files?
#4245 [18:23] <Tpimp> ye
#4246 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Are you running the new launcher?
#4247 [18:23] <TheNytangel> ok GreyVulpine, what do i do?
#4248 [18:23] <Tpimp> ye
#4249 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Then just replace the files in your .minecraft directory with the old files, launch the new launcher, and choose No when it asks if you want to upgrade
#4250 [18:24] <Tpimp> it doesnt upgrade at all when i replace the files (duh that means I did something wrong)
#4251 [18:24] <Tpimp> k let me try again
#4252 [18:24] <Tpimp> lol
#4253 [18:26] <Tpimp> GreyVupine - Do I replace all the files..?
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#4256 [18:26] <Jackson413> dudes i got problems
#4257 [18:27] <Jackson413> i have this map
#4258 [18:27] <Jackson413> and it was not converted
#4259 [18:27] <Jackson413> and i launched it
#4260 [18:27] <Jackson413> the size is the same though
#4261 [18:27] <Jackson413> am a screwed?
#4262 [18:27] <leaper> anyone have a freebuild server i can join? thats NOT outdated
#4263 [18:27] <Jackson413> *I
#4264 [18:27] <dopeghoti> ??> Jackson413 irc/flood
#4265 [18:27] <VoxelHead> Jackson413: (irc/flood) Please don't flood the channel; don't use the Enter key as a comma. If you have a lot to say, it's a lot easier for everyone to read if you contain it all on one line, and it makes the channel easier to follow. Thanks.
#4266 [18:27] <Jackson413> my bad
#4267 [18:28] <dopeghoti> Minecraft should automagically start converting any oldformat maps it loads
#4268 [18:28] <lemon-rev> jackson413 no your not screwed but your map should be converted for the new 1.3.01 update
#4269 [18:28] <Jackson413> how do i do it
#4270 [18:28] <dopeghoti> the filesize in aggregate will not change; it'll just be in bigger clumps
#4271 [18:28] <Jackson413> it wont convert
#4272 [18:28] <Jackson413> like i launched it with bukkit
#4273 [18:28] <dopeghoti> Was this map running under the auspices of any mods?
#4274 [18:28] <dopeghoti> ahh
#4275 [18:28] <Jackson413> wouldnt that convert it?
#4276 [18:29] <dopeghoti> Mods tend to interfere with the conversion
#4277 [18:29] <Jackson413> so am i screwed now?
#4278 [18:29] <Jackson413> like i build on the map a bit
#4279 [18:29] <Jackson413> built
#4280 [18:29] <dopeghoti> Yes, mods will screw you over
#4281 [18:29] <dopeghoti> that's why they're not supported.
#4282 [18:30] <Jackson413> so restore from backup?
#4283 [18:30] <dopeghoti> if you have a backup from before you implemented any mods, that may work
#4284 [18:30] <Jackson413> can you guide me thru the conversion?
#4285 [18:30] <Jackson413> i have a backup from the last successful viewing of the map
#4286 [18:30] <dopeghoti> Sure. Step one: "Start Minecraft."
#4287 [18:30] <dopeghoti> There is no Step two.
#4288 [18:31] <Jackson413> apporox how long would it take
#4289 [18:31] <Jackson413> my map is ~1.2 gb
#4290 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> That'll take a while
#4291 [18:31] <Jackson413> 1 hour?
#4292 [18:31] <Jackson413> or a day
#4293 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Hours
#4294 [18:31] <Jackson413> give me an est?
#4295 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't telly ou
#4296 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> you*
#4297 [18:32] <Jackson413> does it give me a percent?
#4298 [18:33] <Tpimp> GreyVupine - Do I replace all the files..?
#4299 [18:33] <Tpimp> .
#4300 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Tpimp - yes
#4301 [18:33] <Tpimp> .
#4302 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Um I haven't converted any of my single player maps, but my server map, had a percentage as it was converting
#4303 [18:34] <Jackson413> sweet
#4304 [18:34] <Jackson413> that is a lot better ten
#4305 [18:35] <Kealper> SP maps have a progress bar
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#4307 [18:36] * Kealper steps out to get dinner
#4307 [18:36] <Petrus> hey everyone...I was wondering if I could get some help with a Minecraft problem I've had for ages now. I have a dual video card system...for some reason, one of the cards runs hotter than the other...but idle it will run at 50-60c...when I load Minecraft however, if I have drawdistance set to Far, it consistently goes up to 80c.
#4308 [18:36] <Petrus> if I put it back to Tiny, it goes back down to 55c or so.
#4309 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft puts strain on your video card, that's expected..
#4310 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> As with any graphically intensive game
#4311 [18:37] <xfateddiex> is there a site with a list of servers?
#4312 [18:37] <xfateddiex> or does anyone know of a good survival server to join?
#4313 [18:37] <dopeghoti> ??> xfateddiex smp/servers
#4314 [18:37] <VoxelHead> xfateddiex: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#4315 [18:37] <VoxelHead> xfateddiex: (smp/servers) You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#4316 [18:37] <Petrus> Grey...I've got a dual 1.5 Gb ram gtx 480...is Minecraft going to put a strain on that?
#4317 [18:38] <xfateddiex> that link isnt working for me
#4318 [18:38] <Jackson413> minecraft would have a hard time putting a strain on my $300 video card
#4319 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#4320 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> It's your GPU working hard, it'll do that with any game.
#4321 [18:38] * Jackson413 looks proud of himself, does a speedtest, looks at his upload speed then cuts his wrists
#4321 [18:39] <Petrus> Grey...a rise of 25c, though?
#4322 [18:39] <Kealper> XD
#4323 [18:39] <Jackson413> :D
#4324 [18:39] <Petrus> it doesn't go up that high with other games
#4325 [18:39] <Kealper> Petrus: that is normal with any 3D game
#4326 [18:39] <Kealper> oh?
#4327 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Petrus - I don't know how your setup is. Do you have sufficient cooling in your case
#4328 [18:39] <Kealper> well....minecraft is special
#4329 [18:39] <Petrus> Grey...yes...I have 4 fans
#4330 [18:39] <Kealper> 80c isn't hot enough to hurt it, anyways :/
#4331 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> That means crap to me.
#4332 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Do you have sufficient cooling, doesn't mean sticking a bunch of fans in a case and calling it good
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#4334 [18:40] <Kealper> if it gets above like...120c, then you should start to worry
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#4336 [18:40] <Petrus> Kealper...I've noticed that Minecraft's memory usage increases continually...I've tried following a help thread on the forum, and it didn't work...it was about setting command line options for java.
#4337 [18:40] <Kealper> Petrus: minecraft can use up to 1gb of ram
#4338 [18:40] <Larmo> is anyone else crashing?
#4339 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Do you have good airflow over your GPU, do you use good airflow practices?
#4340 [18:41] <ActualMop> Any Mac users experiencing System Crashes after exiting the client?
#4341 [18:41] <Petrus> Grey...that I don't know about.
#4342 [18:41] <ActualMop> because I am :l
#4343 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Petrus - 80C under load isn't going to kill your GPU, as Kealper told you
#4344 [18:41] <Petrus> one gpu is at 50c rght now...the other is at 41c.
#4345 [18:42] <Petrus> ok
#4346 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> I've got an older GPU that reaches 70 to 75 under heavy load
#4347 [18:42] <Larmo> I try to play, it tries get to the Majong screen then stops and closes
#4348 [18:42] <Petrus> is 50-60c idle normal?
#4349 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#4350 [18:42] <Petrus> ok
#4351 [18:42] <Petrus> I won't worry then :)
#4352 [18:42] <Petrus> thank you. :)
#4353 [18:43] <Kealper> Majong.....lol
#4354 [18:43] <Larmo> cant spell
#4355 [18:43] <Larmo> typing to fast
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#4357 [18:43] <Kealper> Larmo: have you tried reinstalling the game?
#4358 [18:44] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine..
#4359 [18:44] <Larmo> just did it even dose it if i load up on site
#4360 [18:44] <TheNytangel> i am here now :P
#4361 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Took ya long enough :P
#4362 [18:44] <TheNytangel> yeah
#4363 [18:44] <ActualMop> Can anyone help me? After updating to Beta 1.3, when I close the client my system crashes. I'm running OS X 10.6
#4364 [18:44] <dopeghoti> ??> ActualMop mac/reinst
#4365 [18:44] <VoxelHead> ActualMop: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4366 [18:44] <VoxelHead> ActualMop: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4367 [18:44] <Kealper> Larmo: did you actually go into a folder called .minecraft and delete the bin folder? or just delete the exe?
#4368 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> ActualMop - Do you have a crash/error log? Can you pastebin.com it?
#4369 [18:45] <Larmo> ya i got rid of anything labeled minecraft
#4370 [18:45] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine >:o
#4371 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - ip address and default gateway?
#4372 [18:46] <ActualMop> VoxelHead, I'll try that. GreyVulpine, how would I find a log?
#4373 [18:46] <Larmo> tho im kinda computer illiterate
#4374 [18:46] <TheNytangel> Default gateway
#4375 [18:46] <TheNytangel> 192.168.10.1
#4376 [18:46] <Kealper> Larmo: probably not good enough, try reinstalling minecraft with these directions:
#4377 [18:46] <TheNytangel> what IP address
#4378 [18:46] <Kealper> ??> Larmo
#4379 [18:46] <Kealper> fail
#4380 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> ActualMop - If it crashes java, java should've giving you an error log
#4381 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - The IPv4 address
#4382 [18:46] <Kealper> ??> Larmo win/reinst
#4383 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> given*
#4384 [18:46] <VoxelHead> Larmo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4385 [18:46] <VoxelHead> Larmo: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4386 [18:46] <TheNytangel> 192.168.2.3 <-- IPv4
#4387 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. what?
#4388 [18:47] <ActualMop> GreyVulpine, well, it's not crashing java, my whole system crashes when I exit the client and I have to force a shutdown.
#4389 [18:47] <Larmo> will try thanks
#4390 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> An ip address of 192.168.2.3, with a default gateway of 192.168.10.1?
#4391 [18:47] <TheNytangel> 192.168.10.1
#4392 [18:47] <TheNytangel> yes
#4393 [18:47] <TheNytangel> default
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#4395 [18:47] <Kealper> O.o
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#4397 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> You're pulling my leg here..
#4398 [18:48] <Kealper> i smell the stink of double NAT
#4399 [18:48] <TheNytangel> how?
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#4402 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Usually, Class C addresses, like the ones a consumer router uses, use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. A router with 192.168.10.1 will usually give out 192.168.10.x addresses
#4403 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Not something on a totally different subnet, like 192.168.2.x
#4404 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Are you reading the ipconfig output correctly?
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#4406 [18:50] <Charile> Hello everyone, I need HELP
#4407 [18:50] <SkiingPenguins> OKAY
#4408 [18:50] <ActualMop> Before when I mentioned crashing, I meant freezing. Sorry about that.
#4409 [18:51] <TheNytangel> hold on
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#4411 [18:51] <TheNytangel> let me send you a pic
#4412 [18:51] <Charile> As seen here, I got minecraft and also getting a new computer.
#4413 [18:51] <JoeyJo0> Hey people
#4414 [18:51] * xales is back
#4414 [18:51] <JoeyJo0> I have a *slight* FPS problem.
#4415 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> ActualMop - Then have you tried updating java via mac's software center?
#4416 [18:51] <JoeyJo0> With slight, I mean major.
#4417 [18:51] <ActualMop> GreyVulpine, I'm up to date. :l
#4418 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Bah, don't DCC me.
#4419 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Upload the picture to imgur.com
#4420 [18:51] <TheNytangel> >.>
#4421 [18:51] <Charile> AMD Athlon II X2 220 Processor and Windows 7 Home Premium <--- Is that good for minecraft?
#4422 [18:52] <xales> JoeyJo0: did this start with the update?
#4423 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Charile - I suppose... can you try turning down the graphics quality, or turning off smooth lighting in the options
#4424 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> See if that helps?
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#4426 [18:52] <Charile> <Charile> As seen here, I got minecraft and also getting a new computer.
#4427 [18:52] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: http://i.imgur.com/Kb0Lz.png
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#4429 [18:53] <TheNytangel> the 255.255.255.0 or whatever is the subnet address
#4430 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Ah, default gateway of 192.168.2.1
#4431 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> That's better
#4432 [18:53] <TheNytangel> mask
#4433 [18:53] <Blood_display> Nytangle
#4434 [18:53] <Blood_display> You're banned from my server, next time don't delete my house.
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#4436 [18:53] <JoeyJo0> Default gateway != IP address
#4437 [18:53] <TheNytangel> i tried to make a fireplace >.>
#4438 [18:53] <Blood_display> Lol
#4439 [18:54] <TheNytangel> i forgot to put a back on
#4440 [18:54] <Charile> Intel Celeron E3400 Processor good?
#4441 [18:54] <TheNytangel> and i do not like houses made of wood :P
#4442 [18:54] <xales> Charile: A celeron anything is not good
#4443 [18:54] <Parfait> how do you make fps and stuff show on the client? is that some kind of a addon?
#4444 [18:54] <xales> Parfait: F3
#4445 [18:54] <Parfait> ty
#4446 [18:54] <JoeyJo0> Also, bit late, but xales: No.
#4447 [18:54] <JoeyJo0> Xales: Check out my graph. http://imgur.com/TlSWw
#4448 [18:54] <Parfait> yeah lol do you have a budget of 10 bucks or something
#4449 [18:54] <JoeyJo0> Starts out fine and stable
#4450 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez, it's double natted
#4451 [18:55] <xales> JoeyJo0: it's always done that?
#4452 [18:55] * GreyVulpine cries
#4452 [18:55] <JoeyJo0> Suddenly it jumps to about 1-4 fps
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#4454 [18:55] <JoeyJo0> Nope, only since I switched to Win7
#4455 [18:55] <TheNytangel> ?
#4456 [18:55] <Charile> Ahh, man.
#4457 [18:55] <xales> ??> JoeyJo0 win/dxdiag
#4458 [18:55] <VoxelHead> JoeyJo0: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4459 [18:55] <VoxelHead> JoeyJo0: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4460 [18:55] <Linguist> How do I turn off AuBot from trying to spam connect my server?
#4461 [18:55] <xales> Linguist: it won't connect more than once
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#4463 [18:55] <xales> and only when you ask it to
#4464 [18:55] <Charile> AMD Athlon II X2 Dual-Core 255 Processor is Good?
#4465 [18:55] <xales> unless Kealper broke something
#4466 [18:55] <Kealper> wut
#4467 [18:56] <xales> Charile: what exatly is the speed of it?
#4468 [18:56] <Charile> Wut
#4469 [18:56] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, what is double natted? :P
#4470 [18:56] <Charile> GHz?
#4471 [18:56] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: i called that double NAT :P
#4472 [18:56] <Linguist> Xales: really? Something keeps trying to spam connect to my server still : /
#4473 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Basically TheNytangel - You'll connect to 192.168.2.1, log into your belkin router.
#4474 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D7010/Minecraft_Server.htm
#4475 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Follow that guide
#4476 [18:56] <xales> Linguist: it's not AuBot...most likely
#4477 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Port forward 25565 to 192.168.2.3
#4478 [18:57] <xales> Linguist: AuBot's IP is 67.177.131.104
#4479 [18:57] <Linguist> Xales: Is it possible I can try to ban it or something? I mean it's not doing anything, but it is spamming my server window.
#4480 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Then, you're going to connect to your combination modem/router at 192.168.10.1
#4481 [18:57] <JoeyJo0> VoxelHead: dxdiag doesn't show any problems.
#4482 [18:57] <VoxelHead> JoeyJo0, I am a bot.
#4483 [18:57] <JoeyJo0> Oh
#4484 [18:57] <JoeyJo0> >.<
#4485 [18:57] <xales> Linguist: there is a ban ip command
#4486 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Port forward 25565/TCP to 192.168.10.100
#4487 [18:57] <Charile> xales: 3.1GHz, 2MB cache
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#4489 [18:57] <Linguist> Xales: Ah ok. It's 208.115.201.98:random port
#4490 [18:57] <xales> JoeyJo0: click "save all information" in dxdiag, and pastebin it
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#4492 [18:57] <xales> Charile: that should be fine then
#4493 [18:57] <Charile> YES
#4494 [18:57] <Bluesfear> anyone know why I can't install java after I uninstalled previous versions of java? now i have no java to play minecraft at all :(
#4495 [18:58] <Woovie> urgs
#4496 [18:58] <Kealper> Linguist: know anyone from Dallas, Texas, USA?
#4497 [18:58] <Tpimp> k this isnt working
#4498 [18:58] <Woovie> Bluesfear, registry lines
#4499 [18:58] * dopeghoti looks up to the double-NAT fun
#4499 [18:58] <Linguist> Xales: Ok I banned it.
#4500 [18:58] <Woovie> I am from Houston :)
#4501 [18:58] <xales> Bluesfear: how did you uninstall it, exactly?
#4502 [18:58] * dopeghoti _has_ seen a router that used the 192.168.0.0/16 network
#4502 [18:58] <Linguist> Kealper: Yeah I know like 5 people or so.
#4503 [18:58] <Bluesfear> I first uninstalled it thru control panel, then I used JavaRA
#4504 [18:58] <JoeyJo0> http://pastebin.com/62jYSGct -> DxDiag
#4505 [18:58] <Kealper> Linguist: that IP comes out of Dallas, might be one of your friends :/
#4506 [18:58] <Bluesfear> and then windows cleanup utility
#4507 [18:58] <xales> Bluesfear: javara?
#4508 [18:58] <TheNytangel> erm
#4509 [18:58] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine,
#4510 [18:59] <dopeghoti> Why a $30 router thought it needed to be on a network of 255^2 machines, I will never know
#4511 [18:59] <xales> JoeyJo0: ok, one sec
#4512 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
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#4514 [18:59] <Linguist> Kealper: Those people don't play video games nor know about my server :O So Idk who it is.
#4515 [18:59] <TheNytangel> mine doesnt have a choice of UDB & TCP
#4516 [18:59] <JoeyJo0> xales: Of note can also be that whenever I restart my PC, I have to install my display drivers.
#4517 [18:59] <Kealper> dopeghoti: it wanted to act cooler than it really was
#4518 [18:59] <Woovie> Bluesfear, win7?
#4519 [18:59] <JoeyJo0> Or else I get a blackscreen on startup.
#4520 [18:59] <Bluesfear> yes win7
#4521 [18:59] <Woovie> x64?
#4522 [18:59] <Bluesfear> x86
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#4524 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Then ignore it
#4525 [18:59] <Kealper> Linguist: probably safe to ban it then
#4526 [18:59] <Bluesfear> xales, a program that removes any old java registry and files
#4527 [18:59] <Jackson413> wow map is done
#4528 [18:59] <Woovie> Bluesfear, did you search in regedit for java stuff
#4529 [18:59] <TheNytangel> inbound port is 25565, correct?
#4530 [18:59] <Jackson413> yay
#4531 [18:59] <Woovie> and delete it ?
#4532 [18:59] <xales> Bluesfear: what error do you get when you try to install it?
#4533 [19:00] <Jackson413> gonna try and run it
#4534 [19:00] <nevercast> Speaking of blackscreens on startup.. My desktop is black screening again. On windows startup.. Peice of crap!
#4535 [19:00] <Woovie> I bet it sees java crap in regedit, thinking it's still installed.
#4536 [19:00] <Jackson413> ITS UP ITS UP
#4537 [19:00] <Jackson413> shit not like that
#4538 [19:00] <Tpimp> can i post the mediafire link of minecraft files here, for further help?
#4539 [19:00] <Jackson413> :#
#4540 [19:00] <xales> JoeyJo0: wait, what? you reinstall the graphics drivers consistently?
#4541 [19:00] <Linguist> Ok. I banned it. Will it still spam my server log?
#4542 [19:00] <nevercast> lol Jackson413
#4543 [19:00] <xales> Tpimp: No
#4544 [19:00] <Woovie> if you forced shutdown, it may have never uninstalled the regedit lines
#4545 [19:00] <JoeyJo0> Jackson: Nice, having troubles getting it up?
#4546 [19:00] <Tpimp> xales: Why
#4547 [19:00] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, what about "Private IP Address?"
#4548 [19:00] <TheNytangel> leave it blank?
#4549 [19:00] <Jackson413> a little bit of porn and no probs
#4550 [19:00] <Jackson413> :D
#4551 [19:00] <JoeyJo0> xales: Yes, 5 minutes work, TBH.
#4552 [19:00] <Kealper> Tpimp: the game says right in it not to distribute it
#4553 [19:00] <xales> Tpimp: because it wouldn't help anything, and is illegal (http://minecraft.net/copyright.jsp)
#4554 [19:00] <Bluesfear> xales, no error at all, the online installer would download the java update24 installer, after it finishes download, it just closes down with no error message
#4555 [19:01] <nevercast> TheNytangel, That needs to be the IP of the server in your network
#4556 [19:01] <xales> JoeyJo0: That is...indicating a bad problem
#4557 [19:01] <JoeyJo0> I know
#4558 [19:01] <Tpimp> What about ./notice
#4559 [19:01] <TheNytangel> wut
#4560 [19:01] <JoeyJo0> Everything works fine
#4561 [19:01] <JoeyJo0> Except MC
#4562 [19:01] <LG_Legacy> Why is the copyright brought up?
#4563 [19:01] <nevercast> TheNytangel, The computer you're hosting Minecraft server with
#4564 [19:01] <xales> Tpimp: The way you send it doesn't change that you are illegally distributing Minecraft
#4565 [19:01] <LG_Legacy> Do i need to step in?
#4566 [19:01] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Private IP is the IP of that computer
#4567 [19:01] <Kealper> LG_Legacy: bigger question.....why do you have that on hilight? lol
#4568 [19:01] <JoeyJo0> Well, MCEdit suffers from the same lag problem.
#4569 [19:01] <Tpimp> im not giving it away
#4570 [19:01] <TheNytangel> but my IP doesnt beging with 192.168.2 and i cant change it >.>
#4571 [19:01] <Tpimp> i need help with it
#4572 [19:01] <Woovie> FUCK YES
#4573 [19:01] <LG_Legacy> I don't have it on highlight
#4574 [19:01] <LG_Legacy> I came in at the right time.
#4575 [19:01] <xales> Tpimp: Doesn't matter. Giving us files won't help anyway
#4576 [19:01] <Kealper> xD
#4577 [19:01] <nevercast> TheNytangel, What does your IP begin with on your computer?
#4578 [19:01] <Linguist> Ok...it's still connecting to my server, it kep saying lost connection. It's comming in from a different port each time.
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#4580 [19:01] <JoeyJo0> To get your IP: www.whatismyip.com
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#4582 [19:02] <Tpimp> it will
#4583 [19:02] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Did you check he was using a static private ip?
#4584 [19:02] <xales> Tpimp: and how is that, exactly?
#4585 [19:02] <feyden> ;
#4586 [19:02] <nevercast> JoeyJo0, whatismyip.org
#4587 [19:02] <TheNytangel> 65.19.250.8 = my ip
#4588 [19:02] <nevercast> JoeyJo0, It's raw :D
#4589 [19:02] <JoeyJo0> Oh, thanks.
#4590 [19:02] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Do you have a router.. of course
#4591 [19:02] <TheNytangel> yes..
#4592 [19:02] <Tpimp> lol well if you choice to look at them, it might
#4593 [19:02] <nevercast> TheNytangel, So what is the Ip of your Computer.. not your router.
#4594 [19:02] <TheNytangel> 65.19.250.8 = my ip
#4595 [19:02] <feyden> Anyone know why my Javascript gets hung up on 37 and 37% for starting a private server from minecraft_server.jar
#4596 [19:02] <nevercast> TheNytangel, They are different
#4597 [19:02] <feyden> I'm using win7
#4598 [19:02] <nevercast> TheNytangel, One is public.. that's your piblic IP
#4599 [19:02] <Kealper> Tpimp: we only sit in here all day, helping hundreds of people per day, we don't know what will help us debug your issue at all
#4600 [19:02] <xales> Tpimp: why don't you tell me what the problem is, before you go doing illegal things
#4601 [19:02] <nevercast> TheNytangel, There is also a private IP
#4602 [19:02] <TheNytangel> well where the f do i find that
#4603 [19:03] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Windows right?
#4604 [19:03] <TheNytangel> yes
#4605 [19:03] <Tpimp> illegal things? thats why i asked rofl
#4606 [19:03] <nevercast> TheNytangel, [Windows] + R
#4607 [19:03] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Open the run dialog
#4608 [19:03] <nevercast> TheNytangel, type in "cmd" ( without quotes ) and press enter
#4609 [19:03] <nevercast> TheNytangel, are you on a desktop?
#4610 [19:03] <TheNytangel> yes..
#4611 [19:03] <nevercast> TheNytangel, So you use Ethernet Cable?
#4612 [19:03] <Bluesfear> xales, any idea about my problem? i've searched online but can't seem to find any result..
#4613 [19:03] <TheNytangel> yes
#4614 [19:03] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Okay, type ipconfig
#4615 [19:04] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Into your command prompt, and press enter.
#4616 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> nevercast - We've done this
#4617 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/Kb0Lz.png
#4618 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> That the output
#4619 [19:04] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Then why doesn't he know what his private Ip is..
#4620 [19:04] <xales> Bluesfear: try running CCleaner and doing registry cleanup
#4621 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> It's right there
#4622 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> He needs to port forward twice
#4623 [19:04] <JoeyJo0> Bluesfear, what is your problem?
#4624 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> From the router to his computer
#4625 [19:04] <Bluesfear> xales, i also did that :(
#4626 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.2.x
#4627 [19:04] <TheNytangel> -_-
#4628 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Then, from his modem/router, to his router
#4629 [19:04] <xales> Bluesfear: I have no idea then =/
#4630 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.10.100
#4631 [19:04] <nevercast> GreyBot, Why does he have two networks?
#4632 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> It's doubly-NATted
#4633 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> two applianced doing DHCP
#4634 [19:05] <Bluesfear> JoeyJo0, i tried to install the new java u24, so I uninstalled the previous versions of java, but now when I try to run the installer, the installer would download the java installer but then after it finishes download, nothing happens (it just closes.)
#4635 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> appliances*
#4636 [19:05] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, That is an ugly setup.. He should have just expanded his subnet
#4637 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> We see it quite often around here
#4638 [19:05] <feyden> Anyone know why my Javascript gets hung up on 37 and 37% for starting a private server from minecraft_server.jar
#4639 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> It's default for many combination modem routers
#4640 [19:05] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Really? Is it like a flatting thing?
#4641 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> No
#4642 [19:05] <TheNytangel> i like making people talk a lot :)
#4643 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> It's an ISP thing
#4644 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Many ISPS nowadays hand out combination modem routers
#4645 [19:05] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, I'm glad my ISP isn't like that.. although I handle my networking.. but that is gross.
#4646 [19:05] <TheNytangel> and it isnt even helping me -_-
#4647 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> So people don't have to buy an additional router
#4648 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> to share in a home
#4649 [19:06] <JoeyJo0> Bluesfear: What installer are you using?
#4650 [19:06] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Why not hand out Modem/Routers that are one peice
#4651 [19:06] <JoeyJo0> Off- or online?
#4652 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> I've dealt with this for years as tech support
#4653 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> nevercast - They are one piece
#4654 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> It's just the consumer thinks they still need ANOTHER router
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#4656 [19:06] <Bluesfear> JoeyJo0, the offline installation installer from java.com
#4657 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> So instead of that combination modem router, handing out directly to computers..
#4658 [19:06] <Kealper> nevercast: you've really not seen a modem/router combo before?
#4659 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> it's handing out DHCP addresses to another router
#4660 [19:06] <JoeyJo0> Have you tried the online installer?
#4661 [19:06] <nevercast> Kealper, Yeah but the subnet was the same.
#4662 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> which has DHCP handing out to computers
#4663 [19:07] <nevercast> Kealper, and this sounds like a modem/router & router combo
#4664 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Double-NAT
#4665 [19:07] <nevercast> ^
#4666 [19:07] <TheNytangel> ok.. so when am i going to get to do this >.<
#4667 [19:07] <Kealper> nevercast: yes, that's exactly what it is
#4668 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I gotta run,
#4669 [19:07] <Woovie> Can someone help me out with this: http://pastebin.com/AmzYKzwq
#4670 [19:07] <nevercast> Kealper, Yeah it's rediculous.
#4671 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> But you guys know how to help TheNytangel
#4672 [19:07] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Wait...
#4673 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Just gotta walk them through it
#4674 [19:07] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, What does he need for his private IP
#4675 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Look at the picture
#4676 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> It's obvious
#4677 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/Kb0Lz.png
#4678 [19:07] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Look at the picture <3
#4679 [19:07] <JoeyJo0> Woovie: Not really.
#4680 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> You're going to go to 192.168.2.1 via the computer
#4681 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Port forward 25565/TCP to 192.168.2.3
#4682 [19:08] <xales> Woovie: reinstall Java
#4683 [19:08] <JoeyJo0> Woovie: Does it happen consistently?
#4684 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Then, once you have that set
#4685 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> You go to 192.168.10.100
#4686 [19:08] <Woovie> yes JoeyJo0.
#4687 [19:08] <Bluesfear> JoeyJo0: jre-6u24-windows-i586.exe specially
#4688 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> er
#4689 [19:08] <TheNytangel> hooold on
#4690 [19:08] <TheNytangel> hold on
#4691 [19:08] <JoeyJo0> Woovie: If so, reinstall minecraft/java and try again.
#4692 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> 192.16810.1
#4693 [19:08] <TheNytangel> everyone shh
#4694 [19:08] <nevercast> .10.1
#4695 [19:08] <Woovie> after about 1 1/2 to 2 minutes of it running
#4696 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.10.1
#4697 [19:08] <TheNytangel> i cant read that fast
#4698 [19:08] <TheNytangel> OMG
#4699 [19:08] <nevercast> TheNytangel, He's talking to me
#4700 [19:08] <nevercast> TheNytangel, I'll give it back to you slower
#4701 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Port forward 25565 to 192.168.10.100
#4702 [19:08] <JoeyJo0> Bluesfear: Can't say anything else, you should try a legacy version then.
#4703 [19:08] <Kealper> TheNytangel: lol
#4704 [19:08] <TheNytangel> <GreyVulpine> Port forward 25565/TCP to 192.168.2.3
#4705 [19:08] <TheNytangel> grey
#4706 [19:08] <TheNytangel> hold on
#4707 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> That should be it
#4708 [19:09] <Woovie> JoeyJo0, think xfire could be to blame ?
#4709 [19:09] <SkiingPenguins> xfire doesnt interfere with me
#4710 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Blarg, sorry, I need to head off for a few hours
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#4712 [19:09] <Bluesfear> JoeyJo0, what is legacy version?
#4713 [19:09] <JoeyJo0> Woovie: Maybe
#4714 [19:09] <Woovie> Well I had NO problems till I added xfire into the situation
#4715 [19:09] * Kealper waves to GreyVulpine
#4715 [19:09] <Woovie> or perhaps running server/client on same PC
#4716 [19:09] <JoeyJo0> Bluesfear: Older version, u23, for example
#4717 [19:09] <SkiingPenguins> Woovie how'd you make xfire detect minecraft?
#4718 [19:09] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Cya
#4719 [19:09] <JoeyJo0> Woovie: "Exception Code: c0000005"
#4720 [19:10] <JoeyJo0> ACCESS_VIOLATION
#4721 [19:10] <Jackson413> guys
#4722 [19:10] <Bluesfear> JoeyJo0, i also tried that :( i dont know what's going on
#4723 [19:10] <TheNytangel> http://i.imgur.com/PUbvY.png
#4724 [19:10] <Jackson413> i need help
#4725 [19:10] <Woovie> SkiingPenguins, edited the xfire_games.ini
#4726 [19:10] <Jackson413> did the coordinates change
#4727 [19:10] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, nevercast, http://i.imgur.com/PUbvY.png
#4728 [19:10] <SkiingPenguins> could it be that your changes messed it up? :)
#4729 [19:10] <Jackson413> like the system for coordinates change for the maps
#4730 [19:10] <Jackson413> cause i cant find anything
#4731 [19:10] <nevercast> TheNytangel, http://pastebin.com/JRSb0Qqy
#4732 [19:11] <JoeyJo0> Woovie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_protection_fault
#4733 [19:11] <Woovie> SkiingPenguins, messed WHAT up ? Why would that mess it up. XFire wouldn't even detect it before.
#4734 [19:11] <TheNytangel> look at my pic
#4735 [19:11] <JoeyJo0> That's the cause of the crash
#4736 [19:11] <TheNytangel> i cant go 192.168.10
#4737 [19:11] <Woovie> I just made it actually see it
#4738 [19:11] <nevercast> TheNytangel, I did.. but you didn't give me the address bar.. I need to know what box you're in
#4739 [19:11] <TheNytangel> i can only go 192.168.2
#4740 [19:11] <nevercast> TheNytangel, 192.168.10 and 192.168.2
#4741 [19:11] <nevercast> are bad addresses
#4742 [19:11] <nevercast> 10.1
#4743 [19:11] <nevercast> and 2.1
#4744 [19:11] <TheNytangel> i cant make it 10.1
#4745 [19:11] <nevercast> RAGE
#4746 [19:11] <nevercast> 192.168.10.1
#4747 [19:12] <TheNytangel> >.>
#4748 [19:12] <JoeyJo0> Woovie: Have you tried stopping xFire? Does this work?
#4749 [19:12] <dopeghoti> nevercast: the external router is only allowing forwarding to IPs under its control
#4750 [19:12] <Woovie> No, I am about to test that.
#4751 [19:12] <dopeghoti> TheNytangel: when I get home tonight, I'll be willing and able to help you via TeamViewer
#4752 [19:12] <nevercast> dopeghoti, you mean ip's that are DHCP
#4753 [19:12] <nevercast> or DHCP'd..
#4754 [19:12] <nevercast> more accurately
#4755 [19:12] <TheNytangel> -_-
#4756 [19:12] <Woovie> it seems like it wasn't crashing while the server was off, but I will test several situations just to be sure.
#4757 [19:13] <TheNytangel> dopeghoti, when are you getting home
#4758 [19:13] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Oh and slap your ISP for me ;).. no not really
#4759 [19:13] <dopeghoti> TheNytangel: 180 minutes or so
#4760 [19:13] <nevercast> dopeghoti, I can't believe an ISP would make a setup like this.
#4761 [19:13] <TheNytangel> i will be off in 3 hours or so
#4762 [19:13] <dopeghoti> nevercast: it wouldn't.
#4763 [19:13] <nevercast> dopeghoti, Even in a combonation, you'd use the same subnet.
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#4765 [19:13] <Jackson413> gave myself quite a scare
#4766 [19:13] <nevercast> dopeghoti, GreyVulpine said that when working in Tech support he had this all the time. Isp's would make this horrible setup
#4767 [19:13] <Jackson413> i was cooking food with a gas oven
#4768 [19:14] <Jackson413> and left the gas on without having a flame
#4769 [19:14] <TheNytangel> lol
#4770 [19:14] <Kealper> nevercast: it's not the ISP that does it.....
#4771 [19:14] <Jackson413> then it ignites
#4772 [19:14] <nevercast> Kealper, whom?
#4773 [19:14] <TheNytangel> lol Jackson413
#4774 [19:14] <Woovie> JoeyJo0, seems like it is xfire.
#4775 [19:14] <Woovie> no problems at all
#4776 [19:14] <Jackson413> im shaking
#4777 [19:14] <Woovie> about to start xfire while playing
#4778 [19:14] <dopeghoti> nevercast: I did _years_ of ISP tech support, and the first thing we always demended was "Remove your router."
#4779 [19:14] <Kealper> nevercast: the ISP gives the person a combo modem/router, user thinks it's just a modem, user buys another router and hooks other router up
#4780 [19:15] <nevercast> Kealper, If it has more than one ethernet.. it's a router
#4781 [19:15] <TheNytangel> my modem is plugged into my router
#4782 [19:15] <Kealper> nevercast: tech-savvy people know this, regular joes don't
#4783 [19:15] <nevercast> Kealper, but it's like.. common sense.. or.. omg.. yeah I could never be tech support ever.
#4784 [19:15] <TheNytangel> we have 3 computers, which is why we have a router
#4785 [19:15] <nevercast> Kealper, I'd lose my job for going off my nut
#4786 [19:16] <nevercast> TheNytangel, You have two routers by the sound of it
#4787 [19:16] <TheNytangel> why
#4788 [19:16] <TheNytangel> the router has 4 ethernet ports
#4789 [19:16] <nevercast> TheNytangel, how many ports does your modem have?
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#4791 [19:16] <TheNytangel> 1
#4792 [19:16] <Kealper> why in the name of FSM does this matter so much to people -.-
#4793 [19:16] <Kealper> just forward the port twice
#4794 [19:16] <Kealper> (one for each router, that is)
#4795 [19:17] <nevercast> Kealper, if his modem only has one port.. why does he have two subnets?
#4796 [19:17] <nevercast> Kealper, They should be on the same net.
#4797 [19:17] * Kealper gives up trying to explain a double NAT setup
#4797 [19:17] <SkiingPenguins> perhaps modem has it's own net
#4798 [19:17] <TheNytangel> modem has 1 port, that is plugged into router, which has 4 ports
#4799 [19:17] <nevercast> TheNytangel, I understand that..
#4800 [19:17] <nevercast> Kealper, No, I understand Double Nat.. now explain why it's a good idea?
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#4802 [19:17] <nevercast> Kealper, It's bullshit of an id in a home network
#4803 [19:17] <Woovie> JoeyJo0, no crashes :| I think something odd is going on. Perhaps xfire already running, the way it intercepts the game and detects it is crashing.
#4804 [19:17] <nevercast> s/id/idea/
#4805 [19:18] <Woovie> versus the game already running and intercepting it
#4806 [19:18] <Kealper> nevercast: it's not....it's a stupid idea....infact it's not even an idea, it's caused by a mistake 99% of the time, but most people won't notice or even care
#4807 [19:18] <TheNytangel> well i noticed, if that makes you feel better?
#4808 [19:18] <TheNytangel> :P
#4809 [19:18] <TheNytangel> actually, i didnt
#4810 [19:19] <nevercast> Kealper, Okay thanks.. That's all I wanted to hear is that it was a mistake.. because I was borderline nerdrage on who the hell would set that up on purpose
#4811 [19:19] <JoeyJo0> Woovie: Just don't use xFire
#4812 [19:19] <JoeyJo0> I think xFire is making a memory read error while it's messing about in javaw.exe
#4813 [19:19] <Woovie> JoeyJo0, or I can undo what I did to make it detect the game. It didn't even see it before I edited a certain file.
#4814 [19:19] <Woovie> yeah probably.
#4815 [19:19] <dopeghoti> well
#4816 [19:19] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Kealper, I must go now.. dopeghoti and kealper are probably more than capable of getting your server set up, TheNytangel
#4817 [19:19] <JoeyJo0> Just undo that.
#4818 [19:19] <dopeghoti> Geek Squad may sometimes set that crap up on purpose
#4819 [19:20] <nevercast> dopeghoti, err why?
#4820 [19:20] <roblog> are you kidding me? i go to sleep and wake up to another update? great. i hope this isn't the sort of update that makes me have to update my server too.
#4821 [19:20] <dopeghoti> so taht they can charge $150 to fix it.
#4822 [19:20] <nevercast> HAHA
#4823 [19:20] <nevercast> dopeghoti, yeah I believe that actually..
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#4825 [19:20] <roblog> okay. good. it's not.
#4826 [19:20] <TheNytangel> roblog, update your server
#4827 [19:20] <roblog> TheNytangel: no need. my server is fine.
#4828 [19:20] <TheNytangel> dang it
#4829 [19:20] <TheNytangel> i mean
#4830 [19:20] <TheNytangel> good
#4831 [19:20] <Kealper> lol
#4832 [19:21] <roblog> even if i needed to, it's just a matter of running a shell script that grabs the update + checks for a craftbukkit update.
#4833 [19:21] <roblog> i'm just lazy and didn't want to have to ssh to my VPS
#4834 [19:21] <JoeyJo0> no SSH?
#4835 [19:22] <JoeyJo0> How do you live with yourself?
#4836 [19:22] <dopeghoti> too lazy to type ssh hostname "/path/to/the/script.sh" is pretty impressive (:
#4837 [19:22] <JoeyJo0> Oh
#4838 [19:22] <JoeyJo0> And setting up a CRON job is waaaaaaay more effort
#4839 [19:22] <SkiingPenguins> that stuff is on my router!
#4840 [19:22] <SkiingPenguins> i clicked enable :)
#4841 [19:22] <dopeghoti> SkiingPenguins: get it off get it off!
#4842 [19:23] <dopeghoti> SkiingPenguins: what stuff?
#4843 [19:23] <SkiingPenguins> CRON
#4844 [19:23] <dopeghoti> DDWRT?
#4845 [19:23] <SkiingPenguins> it let me record data or something
#4846 [19:23] <SkiingPenguins> yes
#4847 [19:23] <roblog> weird. no commands seem to work on my server. looks like i have to ssh anyway to take a look at console logs.
#4848 [19:23] <dopeghoti> "may as well update while you're there"
#4849 [19:24] <roblog> i wish the minecraft mobile admin plugin had the ability to check logs. i can do just about everything else on my server with it.
#4850 [19:24] <TheNytangel> ok.. so i dropped my chocolate bar on the floor when i was sleeping last night. it was at the bottom of my bed and kicked it off.. now it is nowhere to be seen
#4851 [19:24] <Woovie> your ass ate it
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#4853 [19:25] <saschagehlich> hey folks, I've got a big problem. I accidentally deleted my world/region/ folder on my server - server is still running and working but I guess as soon as I stop the server the region files are gone.
#4854 [19:25] <saschagehlich> is there a way to regenerate the region files of the currently running world?
#4855 [19:25] <roblog> okay.. when i fire up the mobile admin android app, i can switch the time to day, etc.. but /time day doesn't work in-game. no likey this.
#4856 [19:25] <SkiingPenguins> wow
#4857 [19:26] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: you might be able to recover them from /proc if they're still showing up in `lsof`.
#4858 [19:26] <saschagehlich> yep region files are still opened but "(deleted)"
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#4860 [19:27] <saschagehlich> where exactly are they located in /proc?
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#4862 [19:27] <Kealper> couldn't one also do save-all?
#4863 [19:30] <saschagehlich> dopeghoti: so copying those files from /proc/PID/ should work?
#4864 [19:30] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: yep, that's it exactly!
#4865 [19:30] <saschagehlich> for me it looks like they are just links to the lost files - or are they just links to the file descriptors?
#4866 [19:30] <dopeghoti> They could be the files themselves
#4867 [19:31] <dopeghoti> er, should
#4868 [19:31] <saschagehlich> yep, four files recovered
#4869 [19:31] <dopeghoti> That'll be $8.
#4870 [19:31] <saschagehlich> haha
#4871 [19:31] <saschagehlich> but I guess there were more than those 4 files :S
#4872 [19:31] <dopeghoti> probably
#4873 [19:31] <saschagehlich> but they were not opened so i'm fucked?
#4874 [19:31] <dopeghoti> I'd do a save-all in-server
#4875 [19:32] <dopeghoti> unfortunately, if the server closed the file handle, it's gone
#4876 [19:32] <dopeghoti> undeleting things in ext{3,4}fs is.. "fun".
#4877 [19:36] <saschagehlich> yep...
#4878 [19:36] <saschagehlich> can I like... merge a backup with the recovered files?
#4879 [19:36] <dopeghoti> you can; worst-case is that the bits you lost will be out-of-date
#4880 [19:36] <dopeghoti> (hey, free iron!)
#4881 [19:37] <saschagehlich> lol :D okay let me try this
#4882 [19:37] <saschagehlich> major fuckup. never delete a folder inside "world" that you don't know what it really is
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#4884 [19:40] <SkiingPenguins> lol what are they for?
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#4886 [19:42] <saschagehlich> what is what for?
#4887 [19:42] <saschagehlich> dopeghoti: okay, looks like the major part of our world could be back-upped. thanks a lot dude!
#4888 [19:43] <Chris> i just want to tell you guys
#4889 [19:43] <Chris> i don't know if any of you remember my pain
#4890 [19:43] <Chris> BUT MINECRAFT IS WORKING FOR ME, AGAIN
#4891 [19:43] <Chris> i think
#4892 [19:43] <Chris> AND THAT'S GREAT.
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#4894 [19:44] <buddy> ok I need some genius for a moment :) lol
#4895 [19:44] <buddy> Integrating Irc using mibbit to a server... is it possible?
#4896 [19:44] <TheNytangel> dopeghoti, when you get home, hl me or pm me
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#4898 [19:45] <Xonique> Hello, I'm getting the following error: http://pastie.org/1604417
#4899 [19:45] <Kealper> buddy: quite possible, but it requires a mod
#4900 [19:46] <Cial> buddy, sounds like a relay bot is what you want
#4901 [19:46] <buddy> ok...
#4902 [19:46] <Cial> im sure there is a better term for it than that though
#4903 [19:46] <buddy> and that would connect the chats.. so when not online I can still moderate?
#4904 [19:46] <Kealper> Xonique: have you tried reinstalling minecraft?
#4905 [19:47] <Xonique> I'm using the jar file and yes..
#4906 [19:47] <Xonique> (btw, I'm on Linux)
#4907 [19:47] <Kealper> Xonique: you've deleted the directory bin in ~/.minecraft?
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#4909 [19:48] <Xonique> yes...
#4910 [19:48] <Xonique> Same error still...
#4911 [19:48] <Kealper> and you tried a fresh copy of the launcher?
#4912 [19:49] <Xonique> I got it from: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#4913 [19:50] <Kealper> hmm....tried reinstalling java?
#4914 [19:50] <Xonique> yup
#4915 [19:51] <Kealper> are you using OpenJDK or Sun?
#4916 [19:51] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: glad to hear it!
#4917 [19:51] * Kealper waits for dopeghoti to say "ORACLE!!!"
#4917 [19:51] <Xonique> Sun...
#4918 [19:52] <Kealper> and it's version 1.6.0_23?
#4919 [19:52] <Gman> anyone that could help me connect to a server on my network?
#4920 [19:53] <Xonique> v6 update 22
#4921 [19:53] * dopeghoti whispers, 'Oracle'.
#4921 [19:53] <Kealper> Gman: if it's on your network just enter the server's local IP and it should connect
#4922 [19:53] <Gman> it times out
#4923 [19:54] <Kealper> well then...that's the extent of my debugging abilities for linux
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#4925 [19:54] <Gman> server shows me connected and then lost connection
#4926 [19:54] <Skylined> Can someone help?
#4927 [19:54] <dopeghoti> ??> Skylined ask
#4928 [19:54] <VoxelHead> Skylined: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4929 [19:54] <Kealper> Gman: can anyone else connect to it?
#4930 [19:54] <VoxelHead> Skylined: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4931 [19:54] <Gman> @Kealper server shows disconnect.endOfStream
#4932 [19:55] <Skylined> The graphics for minecraft are a bit glitchy. There is a purple border around the water and torches have a white border
#4933 [19:55] <Skylined> any help on how to solve this?
#4934 [19:55] <Gman> @Kealper I haven't set it up to yet, just testing it out before I open the ports
#4935 [19:56] <dopeghoti> Skylined: what video card are you using?
#4936 [19:56] <Xonique> How do I specify where java is?
#4937 [19:56] <dopeghoti> Xonique: sounds like you're trying to run the .jar that's _in_ ~/.minecraft/bin/ and not the launcher you download from the site.
#4938 [19:56] <dopeghoti> Xonique: debian based distro?
#4939 [19:56] <Skylined> Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 4650
#4940 [19:56] <Xonique> yes
#4941 [19:56] <dopeghoti> `sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#4942 [19:56] <Kealper> Gman: any antivirus or firewall software on your computer or the server machine?
#4943 [19:57] <Xonique> dopeghoti: I'm running the one I downloaded
#4944 [19:57] <Gman> @kealper none on the server, but on mine.
#4945 [19:57] <Kealper> Gman: what ones?
#4946 [19:58] <Gman> @kealper i had a server going on a different machine the other day, but switching to a better machine. avg anti-virus
#4947 [19:58] <Kealper> Gman: try disabling AVG for now, and try connecting again...just to see if it's at all to blame
#4948 [19:59] <Skylined> dopeghoti?
#4949 [20:00] <Blood_display> Can anyone tell me how to break Bedrock
#4950 [20:00] <Kealper> Skylined: update your video drivers
#4951 [20:00] <Kealper> Blood_display: you can't
#4952 [20:00] <Xonique> I've installed java6 from aptitude... do I need to specify where java is?
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#4954 [20:00] <Gman> @kealper connection timed out: connect
#4955 [20:00] <Kealper> Xonique: does it work on minecraft.net from the web player?
#4956 [20:00] <Xonique> no
#4957 [20:00] <Bluesfear> xales, I FIXED iT
#4958 [20:01] <Blood_display> O.O WHAT?
#4959 [20:01] <Blood_display> I CANT?
#4960 [20:01] <Xonique> It says it's updating.. then just goes white
#4961 [20:01] <Kealper> Blood_display: you placed bedrock, didn't you...
#4962 [20:01] <Blood_display> Yes
#4963 [20:01] <Kealper> Xonique: computer specs?
#4964 [20:01] <Blood_display> One on acident
#4965 [20:01] <Blood_display> I need to delete it ;s
#4966 [20:01] <Gman> @keapler im connecting to the ip+port of my server
#4967 [20:01] <Xonique> lmao.. probably not sufficient..
#4968 [20:02] <Gman> @kealper im connecting to the ip+port of my server (i've edited the server prop. to the machines ip)
#4969 [20:02] <Kealper> Gman: remove the ip in server-ip, so it just says server-ip=
#4970 [20:03] <Gman> @kealper how do i connect to it then in my game?
#4971 [20:03] <Xonique> Kealper: The computer is not very good.. I'll give you that
#4972 [20:03] <Kealper> Gman: same way, that ip line is just to make it bind a specific ip instead of all addresses on the machine
#4973 [20:03] <Kealper> Xonique: ok.... "not very good
#4974 [20:03] <Kealper> whoops
#4975 [20:03] <Kealper> "not very good" is quite subjective to the person saying it
#4976 [20:04] <Skylined> Blood Display: TnT
#4977 [20:04] <Skylined> Only way bedrock can be destroyed
#4978 [20:04] <Kealper> wrong
#4979 [20:04] <Skylined> or VIA map editor
#4980 [20:04] <Kealper> only map edits
#4981 [20:04] <Skylined> I have done it before, Kealper, but I guess it's been updated
#4982 [20:04] <Blood_display> Will TnT mess up other things?
#4983 [20:04] <Gman> @kealper I still enter the server machines' ip in the connect to though? +port
#4984 [20:04] <Blood_display> Like the whole house?
#4985 [20:05] <Kealper> Skylined: obsidian...yes, it's possible but hard to do...bedrock is pretty much indestructable
#4986 [20:05] <Skylined> yes, Blood Display, anywhere around the TnT. I would suggest using a map editor
#4987 [20:05] <Blood_display> Kealper: Obsidian can break Bedrock?
#4988 [20:06] <Skylined> Blood Display: He meant tnt can destroy obsidian
#4989 [20:06] <Kealper> Blood_display: not what i meant.....
#4990 [20:06] <Blood_display> Ok
#4991 [20:06] <Blood_display> If I put tnt
#4992 [20:06] <Blood_display> will it destory my house
#4993 [20:06] <Blood_display> cuz the bedrock is in the house..
#4994 [20:06] <Blood_display> ;s
#4995 [20:06] <Skylined> Try the TnT, I am almost positive it can destroy bedrock, but it will mess up your huose
#4996 [20:06] <Blood_display> Shit.
#4997 [20:06] <Skylined> unless notch made bedrock completely indestrucablte now
#4998 [20:06] <Blood_display> -.-
#4999 [20:07] <Skylined> Indestructable*
#5000 [20:07] <Blood_display> OHmm
#5001 [20:07] <Blood_display> Hmm
#5002 [20:07] <Blood_display> Maybe this will be the one time creepers are helpful.
#5003 [20:07] <Skylined> lol
#5004 [20:07] <Kealper> it can't destroy it....
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#5006 [20:07] <Blood_display> Damn creepers!
#5007 [20:08] <Gman> @kealper i'm not having any luck
#5008 [20:08] <uhtr5r> bedrock is indistructable...
#5009 [20:08] <Skylined> I am about to go to bedrock and try it myself
#5010 [20:08] <Skylined> I still dont believe it
#5011 [20:08] <Skylined> I have done it before too
#5012 [20:08] <Skylined> ehh, too lazy
#5013 [20:08] <Skylined> just get a map editor Bloody Display
#5014 [20:09] <Blood_display> Guys, if I make a flatland SMP will there still be monsters?
#5015 [20:09] <Skylined> Yes
#5016 [20:09] <Kealper> Skylined: the only way tnt can destroy bedrock is with mods
#5017 [20:10] <uhtr5r> Blood_display, depends if you set it in your properties file
#5018 [20:10] <Kealper> "In Survival Multi-player, Bedrock Blocks can be obtained by using the /give command. It is not advisable to do this because the Blocks will still be impossible to destroy when placed." -MinecraftWiki.net
#5019 [20:10] <Blood_display> Will they be trees, rivers, etc?
#5020 [20:11] <uhtr5r> unless you have a cuboid mod ;-)
#5021 [20:11] <Kealper> Blood_display: not if you edit it all flat
#5022 [20:11] <Blood_display> -.-
#5023 [20:11] <uhtr5r> Blood_display, flatland = flat land, so nothing but flat grass
#5024 [20:11] <Kealper> uhtr5r: see my message just above that one i quoted
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#5026 [20:11] <Kealper> also includes mods in general :/
#5027 [20:11] <uhtr5r> yea, unless you have a cuboid mod
#5028 [20:12] <uhtr5r> cuboid can remove bedrock...
#5029 [20:12] <uhtr5r> so cant istick, and tons of mods
#5030 [20:12] <Blood_display> Uht5r: Is there a way where I can redo what the creeper seted?
#5031 [20:13] <Skylined> Kealper: Updated graphics drivers, still the same
#5032 [20:13] <uhtr5r> don't understand you Blood_display, sorry .-.
#5033 [20:14] <Blood_display> Is there a way to undo the mess the creepers made?
#5034 [20:14] <Skylined> Blood Display: Build
#5035 [20:14] <Skylined> Only way you can do it
#5036 [20:14] <Blood_display> Grr, I hate creepers.
#5037 [20:14] <uhtr5r> blood, get some stone/ect. start building
#5038 [20:15] <Skylined> I am always afraid one will pop out and blow me up
#5039 [20:15] <Skylined> even when i am on peacful
#5040 [20:15] <Skylined> ...
#5041 [20:15] <Blood_display> I'm reseting server
#5042 [20:15] <Blood_display> I got a bettger idea ;0
#5043 [20:15] <Blood_display> That is..if this works.
#5044 [20:16] <Blood_display> God, can someone host my SMP instead?
#5045 [20:16] <uhtr5r> nope :3
#5046 [20:16] <Kealper> Skylined: what was the problem you were having again? sorry lol
#5047 [20:16] <uhtr5r> I can't even host myown
#5048 [20:16] <Skylined> Kealper: Purple borders around water blocks and white borders around torch blocks
#5049 [20:17] <Kealper> ahh, yes....you've tried reinstalling minecraft, too?
#5050 [20:17] <dopeghoti> Blood_display: I'll host your SMP server for $45/month, sure
#5051 [20:17] <Skylined> Blood Display: I can't even host my own server lol. with the server and minecraft going at the same time, it laggs like hell
#5052 [20:17] <Blood_display> You know what Notch should do? He should make bedrock breakable.
#5053 [20:17] <Skylined> Yes, Kealper
#5054 [20:17] <Blood_display> So the people won't get so pissed off and break their laptops. -.-
#5055 [20:17] <dopeghoti> Blood_display: that'd kind of defeat the whole pooint.
#5056 [20:18] <dopeghoti> ProTip: take an anger management class.
#5057 [20:18] <Blood_display> @dopeghoti What do you mean?
#5058 [20:18] <uhtr5r> Skylined: do you have a textrue pack installed?
#5059 [20:18] <Skylined> I don't have any texture pack installed
#5060 [20:18] <Kealper> you are not supposed to be able to spawn bedrock (server ops who can should be responsible enough not to) bedrock is there to make you unable to fall through the map if you dig too deep
#5061 [20:19] <Skylined> installing a 64x64 texturepack will actually make it less noticeable
#5062 [20:19] <uhtr5r> or remove it
#5063 [20:19] <uhtr5r> it sounds like your items/texture.png files are messed up
#5064 [20:19] <Blood_display> Why did Notch have to make creepers?
#5065 [20:19] <uhtr5r> cuz he's evil
#5066 [20:19] <Blood_display> They are creepy and they make a big mess.
#5067 [20:19] <Skylined> Sounds like it to me, but why, i will never know
#5068 [20:19] <Kealper> Blood_display: to make people like you ask that question >.>
#5069 [20:19] <uhtr5r> -nuf said-
#5070 [20:20] <Blood_display> >.>
#5071 [20:20] <Skylined> I may just delete my .minecraft folder for the 10th time and try again
#5072 [20:20] <Blood_display> I wish Notch was here..
#5073 [20:20] <uhtr5r> .-.
#5074 [20:20] <xales> Blood_display: even if he was, do you really think you would be able to talk to him? <_<
#5075 [20:20] * uhtr5r holds back comments at Blood_display
#5075 [20:20] <Blood_display> Yea, why not?
#5076 [20:20] <xales> the other 1000 people that would be querying him might just make him miss it
#5077 [20:21] <Blood_display> True, true.
#5078 [20:21] <uhtr5r> If he did come on irc, chances of him using "notch" as his name?
#5079 [20:21] <Blood_display> Well, I wish I was the only one on and he came on.
#5080 [20:21] <Kealper> uhtr5r: he does
#5081 [20:21] <uhtr5r> O.o
#5082 [20:21] <Skylined> I know notch on a personal level
#5083 [20:22] <uhtr5r> I'v never seen that name on (other than lamers that get force named backed) atleast within a month
#5084 [20:22] <Xonique> UPDATE: I cant open *ANY* jar files...
#5085 [20:22] <uhtr5r> Skylined, orly? go talk to him about your problem than...
#5086 [20:22] <Kealper> uhtr5r: that's because he has not been on in a month, he's basically forgot about irc :/
#5087 [20:22] <Kealper> i also call BS on what Skylined said
#5088 [20:22] <uhtr5r> same, hence my comment .-.
#5089 [20:23] <Blood_display> Oh boy, I can't wait till i'm done with learning HTML
#5090 [20:23] <Blood_display> so I can move on to Pyhton
#5091 [20:23] <Kealper> takes some skill to know someone on a personal level when you are an ocean away from then
#5092 [20:23] <Kealper> them*
#5093 [20:23] <Blood_display> Hmm..
#5094 [20:23] <Blood_display> Wonder where Tyteen4a03 is
#5095 [20:24] <uhtr5r> and if you knew notch, would you be a normal user in #MineCraftHelp as a (stupid) question and/or braging about knowing notch on a personal level?
#5096 [20:24] <uhtr5r> as = asking
#5097 [20:24] <dopeghoti> Xonique: interesting. reinstall java?
#5098 [20:24] <Xonique> yup
#5099 [20:24] <Xonique> just did
#5100 [20:24] <dopeghoti> purge, then instlal, or just --reinstall install?
#5101 [20:24] <uhtr5r> Xonique: it work now?
#5102 [20:24] <Xonique> uhtr5r: negative
#5103 [20:25] <Skylined> Of course, one problem after the next. Now the client won't install any of the stuff
#5104 [20:25] <xales> Xonique: did you do the alternatives thing?
#5105 [20:25] <uhtr5r> Xonique: windows? if so restart after reinstalling
#5106 [20:25] <Xonique> uhtr5r: Linux
#5107 [20:25] <Xonique> and xales, don't remember what that was
#5108 [20:25] <uhtr5r> oic, you know how to use a computer ;)
#5109 [20:25] <xales> ?? linux/debian/java
#5110 [20:25] <xales> or...what was that dopeghoti
#5111 [20:26] <Blood_display> Note to self- Create fourms tomorrow
#5112 [20:26] <xales> ?? java/linux/debian
#5113 [20:26] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#5114 [20:26] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: To install it, `sudo apt-get sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#5115 [20:26] <xales> the second part - update-alternatives --config java
#5116 [20:26] <Blood_display> VoxelHead hates me >.>
#5117 [20:26] <lemon-rev> stupid question do flowers grow on there own on grass if left alone casue im getting impression that floweres boom from 1 flower over a great deal of time
#5118 [20:26] <Blood_display> Even tho he's a bot and doesn't have feelings..
#5119 [20:26] <uhtr5r> ooo, thats cool .-.
#5120 [20:26] <Blood_display> >.>
#5121 [20:26] <Xonique> says Nothing to configure.
#5122 [20:26] <Blood_display> Ugh, i'm bored.
#5123 [20:27] <Blood_display> I can't wait till tomorrow.
#5124 [20:27] <Xonique> sun-java6-jre is installed...
#5125 [20:27] <uhtr5r> go call notch, talk to him
#5126 [20:27] <Blood_display> I don't know his number. ;(
#5127 [20:27] <uhtr5r> -.-
#5128 [20:27] <xales> Xonique: did you do the update-alternatives thing
#5129 [20:27] <xales> Blood_display: VoxelHead is a bot...
#5130 [20:27] <Xonique> xales: Affirmative
#5131 [20:27] <Blood_display> I would, if I could.
#5132 [20:27] <Blood_display> Xales: I just said that. >.>
#5133 [20:27] <xales> Xonique: and you selected sun-java6?
#5134 [20:27] <Xonique> yup
#5135 [20:27] <xales> oh, nevermind :P
#5136 [20:28] <xales> Xonique: what happens when you try to run a jarfile?
#5137 [20:28] <Blood_display> Ugh, anyone need help?
#5138 [20:28] <Blood_display> If not, i'm out!
#5139 [20:28] <uhtr5r> bye
#5140 [20:28] <Xonique> xales: http://pastie.org/1604417
#5141 [20:28] <Blood_display> Blood out!
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#5144 [20:29] <uhtr5r> Xonique, redownload jar?
#5145 [20:29] <xales> Xonique: you are launching it like "java -jar minecraft.jar"?
#5146 [20:29] <Xonique> uhtr5r: Several times, yes
#5147 [20:32] <Xonique> BINGO
#5148 [20:32] <Xonique> Chmod +x minecraft.jar
#5149 [20:32] <Kealper> u.u
#5150 [20:32] * xales is surprised that made a difference
#5150 [20:33] <xales> are you running Ubuntu or Debian?
#5151 [20:33] <Kealper> inb4 ubuntu
#5152 [20:33] <xales> ^
#5153 [20:33] <uhtr5r> lol, a jar without execution privalages?
#5154 [20:33] <Kealper> uhtr5r: ubuntu defaults to that
#5155 [20:33] <dopeghoti> uhtr5r: well, it is just a zipfile.
#5156 [20:33] <uhtr5r> ewwwwwww
#5157 [20:33] <uhtr5r> ubuntu sucks .-.
#5158 [20:33] <Kealper> uhtr5r: in ubuntu-based OSes, you have to actually go and mark it as executable or it will just try to unzip it
#5159 [20:34] <uhtr5r> debain, hand rolled to fit needs ftw :3
#5160 [20:34] <uhtr5r> Kealper, did not know that, thanks for the info
#5161 [20:34] <Kealper> debain...lol
#5162 [20:34] <uhtr5r> lol? D:
#5163 [20:34] <uhtr5r> debian*
#5164 [20:34] <Kealper> "New updates are available!" neit!
#5165 [20:35] <lemon-rev> ?
#5166 [20:36] <Kealper> hmm...Windows 7 SP1 in my Windows Update...
#5167 [20:36] <Kealper> i think not!
#5168 [20:36] <lemon-rev> lol
#5169 [20:36] <lemon-rev> i see u talking abuot your os not mc lol
#5170 [20:36] <uhtr5r> don't update D:
#5171 [20:36] <xales> lol Kealper
#5172 [20:36] <Kealper> yeah lol
#5173 [20:36] <xales> y u no update
#5174 [20:36] * xales isn't either but wants to know why
#5174 [20:36] <Kealper> i'm on my server right now...updates mean downtime
#5175 [20:36] <xales> ah
#5176 [20:36] <uhtr5r> better excuse than what i had .-.
#5177 [20:36] <dopeghoti> xales: it's a less-than-week-old Service Pack. you need to ask why not to install it?
#5178 [20:37] <xales> dopeghoti: oh, it's that new?
#5179 [20:37] <xales> I didn't even know <.<
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#5181 [20:38] <weirdo> guys
#5182 [20:38] <Kealper> guy
#5183 [20:38] <weirdo> i need help pleease!
#5184 [20:38] <weirdo> with minecraft
#5185 [20:38] <Kealper> >> specific
#5186 [20:38] <Kealper> ??specifi
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#5188 [20:38] <weirdo> okay
#5189 [20:38] <Kealper> gah!
#5190 [20:38] <weirdo> ok
#5191 [20:38] <weirdo> listen
#5192 [20:38] <Kealper> be specific!
#5193 [20:38] <Kealper> lol
#5194 [20:38] <dopeghoti> *snrk*
#5195 [20:38] <weirdo> after i go on the browser
#5196 [20:38] <weirdo> and i load up everything
#5197 [20:38] <FireRat> Sup... I got a question...
#5198 [20:38] * dopeghoti breaks weirdo's enter key.
#5198 [20:38] <weirdo> like as soon as its done retreiving the thing.
#5199 [20:38] <weirdo> ...
#5200 [20:38] <GLaDOS> yeah?
#5201 [20:38] <weirdo> help
#5202 [20:39] <GLaDOS> WE'RE LISTENING
#5203 [20:39] <FireRat> I keep getting [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#5204 [20:39] <weirdo> it like stops and gives black screen
#5205 [20:39] <xales> FireRat: how often do you get it?
#5206 [20:39] <dopeghoti> ??> FireRat normal
#5207 [20:39] <VoxelHead> FireRat: (normal) That message is perfectly normal, happens all the time, and can safely be ignored.
#5208 [20:39] <GLaDOS> FireRat get more RAM
#5209 [20:39] <weirdo> ?
#5210 [20:39] <GLaDOS> weirdo: join the queue of 5000 people
#5211 [20:39] <weirdo> help me pleaase!
#5212 [20:39] * GLaDOS points
#5212 [20:39] <xales> FireRat: it's normal, as long as it doesn't spam it (every few seconds)
#5213 [20:39] <FireRat> Problem is I get the message then my server has horrible lag
#5214 [20:39] <xales> FireRat: what are the specs of the server?
#5215 [20:39] <weirdo> everytime i load minecraft after its done loading just before the mojang sign comes up it gives a black screen
#5216 [20:39] <Skylined> Hmm
#5217 [20:40] <dopeghoti> weirdo: what OS are you wrinning?
#5218 [20:40] <FireRat> Like my computer?
#5219 [20:40] <xales> FireRat: if you are running it on your computer, yes
#5220 [20:40] <Skylined> So even after re-downloading everything, updating graphics driver, I still have texture issues
#5221 [20:40] <weirdo> guys help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#5222 [20:40] <FireRat> Windows Vista... dual core 4g umm
#5223 [20:40] <weirdo> no one is listening.
#5224 [20:40] <GLaDOS> weirdo: WHAT IS YOUR OS
#5225 [20:40] <Empis_Home> Skylined: what issues?
#5226 [20:40] <Kealper> jesus weirdo....
#5227 [20:40] <weirdo> what is an os?
#5228 [20:40] <dopeghoti> weirdo: What OS are you running?
#5229 [20:40] <weirdo> what is an os
#5230 [20:40] <Empis_Home> HAHA
#5231 [20:41] * GLaDOS kicked weirdo from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: come back when you have at least 1 IQ)
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#5233 [20:41] <GLaDOS> damn /b/tards
#5234 [20:41] <Skylined> What kind of help was that
#5235 [20:41] <Empis_Home> omg, i think he's not in to run a server
#5236 [20:41] <Kealper> lol
#5237 [20:41] <dopeghoti> unhelpful, honestly.
#5238 [20:41] <aetherian> hey
#5239 [20:41] <FireRat> I just started getting the lag and that message like an hour ago
#5240 [20:41] <Skylined> so who has answers to my issue
#5241 [20:41] <FireRat> and I dunno what i did...
#5242 [20:41] <Chris> We reserve the right to deny support to anyone, for any reason
#5243 [20:41] <GLaDOS> FireRat: ITS NORMAL DAMMIT
#5244 [20:41] <GLaDOS> HOW MUCH RAM DO YOU HAVE
#5245 [20:41] <Empis_Home> Skylined: [02:40:36] <Empis_Home> Skylined: what issues?
#5246 [20:42] <Kealper> GLaDOS sounds like he's in a fun mood :o
#5247 [20:42] * dopeghoti thinkgs maybe GLaDOS should take a deep breath and count to 863.
#5247 [20:42] <xales> HAHAHAHA
#5248 [20:42] <xales> weirdo went to #help
#5249 [20:42] <Empis_Home> HAHA
#5250 [20:42] <Skylined> Empis Home: Texture issue such as purple borders around water blocks and white borders around torches
#5251 [20:42] <Empis_Home> Skylined: u got 3D support enable in minecraft?
#5252 [20:42] <Skylined> ermm
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#5255 [20:43] <Skylined> explain how it would be disabled and how I would go about enabling it
#5256 [20:43] <Skylined> cuz it isn't something that has happened since the beginning
#5257 [20:43] <Empis_Home> Options => Video options => Disable 3D Anglyph
#5258 [20:43] <xales> Skylined: when did it start lagging? with this last update?
#5259 [20:43] <GLaDOS> weirdo: you should try updating java
#5260 [20:43] <Skylined> the update before 1.2
#5261 [20:44] <Skylined> something around that
#5262 [20:44] <weirdo> help.
#5263 [20:44] <Skylined> oh wait
#5264 [20:44] <xales> ??> weirdo ask
#5265 [20:44] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#5266 [20:44] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#5267 [20:44] <weirdo> okay
#5268 [20:44] <Skylined> 3d anglyph for minecraft like that blue and red crap
#5269 [20:44] <GLaDOS> try updating java
#5270 [20:44] <Skylined> nahh that isn't it
#5271 [20:45] <GLaDOS> ??> GLaDOS retardedness
#5272 [20:45] <Skylined> I had recently updated java as well
#5273 [20:45] <xales> Skylined: how much RAM does your computer have?
#5274 [20:45] <weirdo> guys when i open up minecrat browser it loads up everything and just before the mojang symbol pops up it goes to black screen
#5275 [20:45] <GLaDOS> Y U NO
#5276 [20:45] <dopeghoti> weirdo: What OS are you running?
#5277 [20:45] <weirdo> i redownloaded java
#5278 [20:45] <Skylined> Xales: 8gigs RAM
#5279 [20:45] <Empis_Home> Skylined: hmm, low computer performance?
#5280 [20:45] <weirdo> umm
#5281 [20:45] <weirdo> vista
#5282 [20:45] <xales> Skylined: do you have anything else open?
#5283 [20:45] <weirdo> and even when i download it
#5284 [20:45] <dopeghoti> GLaDOS: use ??< if you're checking on whether answers are there so as not to trip the flood protection
#5285 [20:45] <Skylined> Doubt it. I can run WoW fine
#5286 [20:45] <weirdo> after i logg in it goes black screen and closes minecraft.
#5287 [20:45] <dopeghoti> ??> weirdo win/reinst
#5288 [20:45] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5289 [20:45] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5290 [20:46] <FireRat> 2gb ram?
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#5292 [20:46] <weirdo> voxelhead
#5293 [20:46] <weirdo> i alreadid that.
#5294 [20:46] <weirdo> already did that.
#5295 [20:46] <weirdo> did not work for me, and it works on my moms computer but she doesn't want me on it
#5296 [20:46] <xales> ??> weirdo win/dxdiag
#5297 [20:46] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#5298 [20:46] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#5299 [20:46] <xales> also
#5300 [20:46] <xales> VoxelHead: hi!
#5301 [20:46] <VoxelHead> xales, I am a bot.
#5302 [20:47] <Kealper> VoxelHead: i hate you!
#5303 [20:47] <VoxelHead> Kealper, I am a bot.
#5304 [20:47] <Kealper> :<
#5305 [20:47] <Kealper> oh
#5306 [20:47] <Kealper> meh
#5307 [20:47] <weirdo> hers is a vista to, but idk why it doesn't work on here, if someone helps me i pay money.
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#5309 [20:47] <dopeghoti> weirdo: so you have already deleted the bin directory?
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#5312 [20:48] <aRCyA> hi
#5313 [20:48] <Kealper> ello
#5314 [20:48] <MrHabbits> Anyone else having horrible multiplayer lag since the update?
#5315 [20:48] <FireRat> Okay now I am getting the Warning overloaded server message a lot
#5316 [20:48] <Gman> I need help with lost of connection on local network server
#5317 [20:48] <Kealper> MrHabbits: some are, what sort of lag do you mean? is everything choppy or very delayed?
#5318 [20:48] <aRCyA> i have a server.. but i want a good easy addon so i can edit groups etc.. would anyone mind spending a little time with me in pm?
#5319 [20:48] <MrHabbits> Yeah Kealper
#5320 [20:48] <Kealper> MrHabbits: ._. choppy or delayed?
#5321 [20:49] <xales> aRCyA: try the Bukkit mod, their channel is #bukkit
#5322 [20:49] <weirdo> yo
#5323 [20:49] <aRCyA> thank you
#5324 [20:49] <weirdo> voxel
#5325 [20:49] <MrHabbits> delayed bad
#5326 [20:49] <weirdo> http://pastebin.com/N8RJiAZL
#5327 [20:49] <xales> Gman: what exactly does it say?
#5328 [20:49] <dopeghoti> ??> aRCyA mods
#5329 [20:49] <VoxelHead> aRCyA: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#5330 [20:49] <VoxelHead> aRCyA: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#5331 [20:49] <Kealper> weirdo: VoxelHead is a bot, it's not a person
#5332 [20:49] <MrHabbits> I got it where i spawn on land instead of falling off the map
#5333 [20:49] <weirdo> voxelhead
#5334 [20:49] <Gman> @xales disconnect.endOfStream
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#5336 [20:49] <theunleet> Is there a list of minecraft servers
#5337 [20:49] <weirdo> voxelhead:http://pastebin.com/N8RJiAZL
#5338 [20:49] <Gman> @xales and then it just says lost connection in server log
#5339 [20:49] <theunleet> minecraft beta servers*
#5340 [20:49] <xales> weirdo: VoxelHead. Is. A. Bot. It. Is. Not. A. Person
#5341 [20:50] <xales> ??> theunleet smp/servers
#5342 [20:50] <VoxelHead> theunleet: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#5343 [20:50] <VoxelHead> theunleet: (smp/servers) You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#5344 [20:50] <Kealper> weirdo: stop going full-retard on us... VoxelHead is a computer program -.-
#5345 [20:50] <weirdo> dude
#5346 [20:50] <weirdo> he told me
#5347 [20:50] <MrHabbits> Kealper... any advice?
#5348 [20:50] <weirdo> to post a link..
#5349 [20:50] <xales> Gman: what model of NIC is in the computer?
#5350 [20:50] <dopeghoti> weirdo: so you have already deleted the bin directory?
#5351 [20:50] <Empis_Home> weirdo: that isnt Vista, its Windows 7 lol
#5352 [20:50] <Kealper> MrHabbits: who hosts the server? you or someone else?
#5353 [20:50] <weirdo> umm..
#5354 [20:50] <Gman> @xales a realtek
#5355 [20:50] <MrHabbits> A friend does.
#5356 [20:50] <weirdo> voxel head.
#5357 [20:50] <theunleet> legion website is dead?
#5358 [20:51] <MrHabbits> It seems anyone on his IP doesnt lag
#5359 [20:51] <weirdo> VoxelHead: http://pastebin.com/N8RJiAZL
#5360 [20:51] <VoxelHead> weirdo, I am a bot.
#5361 [20:51] <Empis_Home> omfg?
#5362 [20:51] <TheNytangel> what does Lapis Lazuli make?
#5363 [20:51] <weirdo> VoxelHead: you told me to post this.
#5364 [20:51] <VoxelHead> weirdo, I am a bot.
#5365 [20:51] <Skylined> VoxelHead: Magnets, where are they?
#5366 [20:51] <VoxelHead> Skylined, I am a bot.
#5367 [20:51] <Skylined> Oh nice
#5368 [20:51] <dopeghoti> ??> weirdo win/reinst
#5369 [20:51] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5370 [20:51] <Empis_Home> weirdo: can't you read?!
#5371 [20:51] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5372 [20:51] <MrHabbits> We have a friend that was having the same problem as me then he got on using my friends internet and it worked perfect
#5373 [20:52] <weirdo> dope
#5374 [20:52] <xales> Gman: some realtek adapters are known to do that; not much to do
#5375 [20:52] <weirdo> ??>http://pastebin.com/N8RJiAZL
#5376 [20:52] <MrHabbits> We use to have 0 problems till the update
#5377 [20:52] <Skylined> VoxelHead: VoxelHead
#5378 [20:52] <VoxelHead> Skylined, I am a bot.
#5379 [20:52] <Skylined> orly/
#5380 [20:52] <Kealper> MrHabbits: your friend that is hosting might not have sufficient upload
#5381 [20:52] <weirdo> ...HELP VOXELHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#5382 [20:52] <theunleet> VoxelHead: Do you love me?
#5383 [20:52] <VoxelHead> theunleet, I am a bot.
#5384 [20:52] * xales kicked weirdo from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: LEARN TO READ. VOXELHEAD IS NOT A PERSON)
#5385 [20:52] <Skylined> VoxelHead: 2 + 4 = ?
#5386 [20:52] <VoxelHead> Skylined, I am a bot.
#5387 [20:52] <MrHabbits> Kealper We play on his server all the time
#5388 [20:52] <Skylined> I THOUGHT BOTS CAN CALCULATE
#5389 [20:52] * GLaDOS kicked xales from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: HE WAS MEIN)
#5390 [20:52] <Gman> @xales really? nothing?
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#5392 [20:52] <nevercast> lol.
#5393 [20:52] <MrHabbits> Since the update its all screwed up.
#5394 [20:53] <xolotl> VoxelHead: who's a bot?
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#5396 [20:53] <VoxelHead> xolotl, I am a bot.
#5397 [20:53] <Kealper> MrHabbits: ask him if he or anyone in his house is downloading stuff
#5398 [20:53] <weirdo> Xales.
#5399 [20:53] <xales> Yes?
#5400 [20:53] <MrHabbits> I doubt it. We have been trying all day to get it to work.
#5401 [20:53] <Kealper> weirdo: what problem are you having again?
#5402 [20:53] <weirdo> xales.
#5403 [20:53] <Gman> @xales nothing to fix it?
#5404 [20:53] <weirdo> dude can you help me
#5405 [20:53] <weirdo> with my situation
#5406 [20:53] <Skylined> VoxelHead: If your mother uses bots to get herself off, then what are you?
#5407 [20:53] <VoxelHead> Skylined, I am a bot.
#5408 [20:53] <dopeghoti> ??>> weirdo win/reinst
#5409 [20:53] <Empis_Home> omfg what is your problem weirdo?
#5410 [20:53] <weirdo> Dude, i know..
#5411 [20:53] <dopeghoti> if you know, then do it.
#5412 [20:54] <weirdo> ??>> VoxelHead http://pastebin.com/N8RJiAZL
#5413 [20:54] <xales> ...
#5414 [20:54] <Skylined> .......
#5415 [20:54] <Empis_Home> O M F G
#5416 [20:54] <xales> seriously
#5417 [20:54] * GLaDOS kicked weirdo from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: SUPPORT DENIED.)
#5418 [20:54] <dopeghoti> This. is fascinating
#5419 [20:54] <Kealper> weirdo: tell me what your problem is or i am perminantly banning you from this ....damnit Gman
#5420 [20:54] <GLaDOS> he's a /b/tard
#5421 [20:54] <dopeghoti> aww, that was getting really good!
#5422 [20:54] <Kealper> GLaDOS*
#5423 [20:54] <MrHabbits> Kealper they arnt downloading anything
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#5425 [20:54] <Kealper> MrHabbits: are you downloading anything?
#5426 [20:54] <xales> inb4 he restarts Mibbit and gets a new random nick
#5427 [20:54] <MrHabbits> Nope
#5428 [20:54] <TheNytangel> OMG
#5429 [20:55] <TheNytangel> its thursday
#5430 [20:55] <Gman> wth did i do
#5431 [20:55] <Kealper> Gman: wrong hilight, sorry :P
#5432 [20:55] <dopeghoti> Gman: you had the same first letter as GLaDOS.
#5433 [20:55] <MrHabbits> Kealper: Nope
#5434 [20:55] <dopeghoti> SHAME upon ye.
#5435 [20:55] <Kealper> MrHabbits: is it just doing that on his server? or all servers for you?
#5436 [20:55] <dopeghoti> Now, I go home.
#5437 [20:55] <MrHabbits> Lemme try another server
#5438 [20:55] <dopeghoti> thanks for the laugh, #MineCraftHelp!
#5439 [20:55] * Kealper waves at dopeghoti
#5439 [20:56] <Kealper> double-spaces all th way across the sky!
#5440 [20:56] * dopeghoti waves back at Kealper.
#5440 [20:56] <saschagehlich> have you heard about undestroyable blocks on server 1.3?
#5441 [20:56] <Skylined> Time... to install a 250X250 texture pack
#5442 [20:56] <Skylined> or whatever it si
#5443 [20:56] <TheNytangel> so does lapis lazuli do anything?
#5444 [20:56] <Skylined> is*
#5445 [20:56] <Kealper> saschagehlich: does it look like....bedrock?
#5446 [20:56] <TheNytangel> is it used in anything?
#5447 [20:56] <Skylined> It is used as a dye
#5448 [20:56] <Kealper> TheNytangel: dyes
#5449 [20:56] <TheNytangel> thats it?
#5450 [20:57] <Kealper> pretty blue blocks, too :o
#5451 [20:57] <MrHabbits> Kealper: all servers
#5452 [20:57] <TheNytangel> i mined 23 of them
#5453 [20:57] <saschagehlich> Kealper: yes, exactly
#5454 [20:57] <Kealper> MrHabbits: sounds like something is up with your internet then.... go to http://speedtest.com and give us the results link after the test
#5455 [20:57] <saschagehlich> Kealper: I can destroy it but it comes back immediately
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#5457 [20:57] <Kealper> saschagehlich: that isn't bedrock, move away from spawn
#5458 [20:59] <MrHabbits> Kealper: Download Speed: 10.80 and Ping is 35
#5459 [20:59] <saschagehlich> Kealper: ah no, not bedrock, it's sandstone
#5460 [20:59] <Kealper> MrHabbits: i....have no idea then :/
#5461 [20:59] <MrHabbits> saschagehlich u an mine sandstone
#5462 [20:59] <MrHabbits> can
#5463 [20:59] <MrHabbits> Kealper Do you know anyone who might?
#5464 [21:00] <Kealper> MrHabbits: someone else in here might
#5465 [21:00] <TheNytangel> might what
#5466 [21:00] <MrHabbits> Does anyone know why i am having horrible delay in multiplayer?
#5467 [21:00] <Kealper> know why he lags out for absolutely no reason
#5468 [21:00] <Kealper> wait....waaaaaaaait.....
#5469 [21:00] <TheNytangel> lag maybe.. >.>
#5470 [21:00] <TheNytangel> lol
#5471 [21:00] <saschagehlich> Kealper: does not depend on the object type, some blocks just don't disappear
#5472 [21:01] <TheNytangel> yes they do
#5473 [21:01] <nevercast> AHAHAHA
#5474 [21:01] <Kealper> MrHabbits: any firewall software or antivirus software?
#5475 [21:01] <nevercast> Kealper I crashed your server
#5476 [21:01] <MrHabbits> Yeah
#5477 [21:01] <nevercast> Kealper, Internal Server error
#5478 [21:01] <Kealper> nevercast: eh?
#5479 [21:01] <MrHabbits> McAfee
#5480 [21:01] <MrHabbits> and advanced system care
#5481 [21:01] <nevercast> Kealper, I got stuck in a mine cart.. it lagged and then I died then the server died
#5482 [21:01] <TheNytangel> nevercast
#5483 [21:01] <TheNytangel> do you have teamviewer?
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#5485 [21:01] <nevercast> TheNytangel, yeah
#5486 [21:01] <Kealper> nevercast: server is still running fine
#5487 [21:02] <TheNytangel> mr... um... guy who was gonna help me 2 hours ago isnt here :P
#5488 [21:02] <nevercast> Kealper, Ohh so it doesn't crash after Internal Server Error.. what a good server. my mistake :)
#5489 [21:02] <MrHabbits> Kealper I have McAfee and advanced system care
#5490 [21:02] <nevercast> TheNytangel, dopeghoti just went home
#5491 [21:02] <TheNytangel> dopeghoti :P
#5492 [21:02] <TheNytangel> yeah
#5493 [21:02] <TheNytangel> him
#5494 [21:02] <Kealper> nevercast: vanilla server doesn't suck THAT bad, geese ;p;
#5495 [21:02] <Kealper> lol*
#5496 [21:02] <TheNytangel> well he isnt home yet >:(
#5497 [21:02] <saschagehlich> wtf... in some areas I can not put any blocks anymore
#5498 [21:02] <Kealper> MrHabbits: i doubt this will help, but try disabling them and trying again?
#5499 [21:02] <MrHabbits> Kk
#5500 [21:02] <Kealper> saschagehlich: move. away. from. spawn.
#5501 [21:02] <nevercast> TheNytangel, he JUST left.
#5502 [21:02] <saschagehlich> from spawn?!
#5503 [21:03] <Kealper> saschagehlich: run far away!
#5504 [21:03] <nevercast> Kealper, What is this Vanilla server and how is it different?
#5505 [21:03] <TheNytangel> o K
#5506 [21:03] <Kealper> nevercast: it's not chocolate
#5507 [21:03] <TheNytangel> how long does it take him to get home?
#5508 [21:03] <nevercast> Kealper....
#5509 [21:03] <Kealper> nevercast: oh...you were serious?
#5510 [21:03] <nevercast> TheNytangel, He'll be home when he's home
#5511 [21:03] <nevercast> Kealper, yes
#5512 [21:03] <Kealper> nevercast: vanilla anything means default
#5513 [21:03] <FireRat> I just got 17 Warning server is overloaded messages in a row and the server is soooo laggy, any help?
#5514 [21:03] <TheNytangel> thats what everyone says.. "we'll get there when we get there" blah blah blah
#5515 [21:03] <TheNytangel> :P
#5516 [21:03] <Kealper> without mods
#5517 [21:03] <nevercast> Kealper, Like original
#5518 [21:04] <nevercast> Kealper, Original Icecream.. is Vanilla?
#5519 [21:04] <nevercast> Right got you
#5520 [21:04] <nevercast> Kealper, Why not just say like Default Server, or Unmodded.. When did Vanilla come into it? Or has it been in the IT Jargon for awhile?
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#5522 [21:04] <Kealper> speaking of can't keep up warnings....what the hell are you doing on my server nevercast?
#5523 [21:04] <Kealper> nevercast: IT jargon for EVER
#5524 [21:04] <MrHabbits> Kealper: i took off my firewall and the same thing happened. Straight into the blue
#5525 [21:05] <Kealper> MrHabbits: yeah, i'm out of ideas then :/
#5526 [21:05] <TheNytangel> screen of death? :o
#5527 [21:05] <nevercast> Kealper, You know how when you're in a minecart, you can go under gaps 1x1 in size?
#5528 [21:05] <nevercast> Kealper, Because you're shorter in a cart?
#5529 [21:05] <Kealper> nevercast: you'll still take damage though
#5530 [21:05] <tpw_rules> hey everybody, i need help getting minecraft to launch. It's whining that it can't find an accelerated opengl mode. I've updated my video drivers like it suggested, but that hasn't done anything. I can provide the exception if needed
#5531 [21:05] <nevercast> Kealper, The cart STOPPED in one of those gaps and the server went spastic.. It eventually killed me ( with damage ) and then it Internal Errored
#5532 [21:06] <TheNytangel> http://tinyurl.com/5esed4
#5533 [21:06] <TheNytangel> lol
#5534 [21:06] <Kealper> nevercast: i hope you are not busy in mc right now
#5535 [21:06] <nevercast> Kealper, Actually I think it 'errored' when I tried to get out of the stuck cart
#5536 [21:06] <nevercast> Kealper, and no.. I'm walking back from spawn.. no items
#5537 [21:06] <MrHabbits> Kealper U cant be out of ideas D:
#5538 [21:07] <Kealper> MrHabbits: sadly, i have no idea why it does that :/
#5539 [21:07] <MrHabbits> Kealper: WAIT! Can it be the new launcher?
#5540 [21:07] <Kealper> i doubt it....the new launcher does not run after you log in :/
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#5542 [21:07] <MrHabbits> Kealper Hmm
#5543 [21:07] <nevercast> Kealper, Is it just a wrapper on your server?
#5544 [21:08] <nevercast> Kealper, no mods.
#5545 [21:08] <Kealper> nevercast: just an STDIO wrapper, yeah
#5546 [21:08] <nevercast> Okay.
#5547 [21:08] <MrHabbits> Kealper U has a server?
#5548 [21:08] <Kealper> MrHabbits: yes
#5549 [21:08] <Kealper> brb switching computers
#5550 [21:08] <nevercast> Well since Course and the rest of the City is cordoned off by the Army.. i have some money lying around.. Might invest in a MC server.
#5551 [21:08] <MrHabbits> Kealper IS IT A SECRET?
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#5553 [21:09] <Kealper> ok back
#5554 [21:09] <Kealper> it's an open secret :o
#5555 [21:09] <theunleet> Double negative...
#5556 [21:10] <MrHabbits> kealper Is it an open secret that i can join to see if minecraft jizzs on me again?
#5557 [21:10] <theunleet> I would hope a videogame cannot "Jizz" on you.
#5558 [21:11] <MrHabbits> Oh it does
#5559 [21:11] <theunleet> Is it salty?
#5560 [21:11] <MrHabbits> nutty :P jkjk
#5561 [21:11] <nevercast> AG_Scott, What's your site? I can't find it
#5562 [21:11] <Kealper> http://allgamer.net
#5563 [21:12] <nevercast> derp, I had allgamers
#5564 [21:12] <AG_Scott> Windows update...
#5565 [21:12] <AG_Scott> Did SP1 get released for Server 2008 R2 yet?
#5566 [21:12] <Kealper> i think so....it's out for 7 right now
#5567 [21:12] <Kealper> they usually keep those pretty close
#5568 [21:12] <AG_Scott> I should finish setting up my laptop then
#5569 [21:12] <theunleet> i dont think sp1 for R2 is out
#5570 [21:12] <MrHabbits> Kealper I still havent seen the first thing i tryped
#5571 [21:13] <theunleet> but then again i run Server 03
#5572 [21:13] <Kealper> MrHabbits: not working on mine either?
#5573 [21:13] <AG_Scott> I never bought 7 but I have server 2008 r2 so I just use it.
#5574 [21:14] <theunleet> Does it work ok?
#5575 [21:14] <AG_Scott> After I hax about the HP drivers, yeah
#5576 [21:14] <AG_Scott> [It's on a notebook]
#5577 [21:14] <Kealper> R2 is nice
#5578 [21:14] <tpw_rules> hey everybody, i need help getting minecraft to launch. It's whining that it can't find an accelerated opengl mode. I've updated my video drivers like it suggested, but that hasn't done anything. I can provide the exception if needed.
#5579 [21:15] <theunleet> SP1 came out like 6 days ago evidently
#5580 [21:15] <nevercast> AG_Scott, How many people is a Basic-VPS going to support in Minecraft?
#5581 [21:16] <AG_Scott> Ummm depends.
#5582 [21:16] <Kealper> nevercast: they have minecraft server packages too
#5583 [21:16] <AG_Scott> Mods, tweaking, etc.
#5584 [21:16] <nevercast> Kealper, Which I have to pay extra for
#5585 [21:16] <AG_Scott> You don't?
#5586 [21:16] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Estimate?
#5587 [21:16] <AG_Scott> they're the same price
#5588 [21:16] <nevercast> AG_Clinton, The McAdmin thing is like an extra $5.00
#5589 [21:16] <nevercast> It says
#5590 [21:16] <AG_Scott> We just charge extra for off site backups/mcmyadmin license
#5591 [21:17] <AG_Clinton> It's $3.00
#5592 [21:17] <AG_Scott> you don't have to get either lol
#5593 [21:17] <nevercast> mcmyadmin has a licence?
#5594 [21:17] <AG_Clinton> Because that's what we pay for it.
#5595 [21:17] <AG_Scott> McMyAdmin is commercial software.
#5596 [21:17] <nevercast> That's crazy, I'll use a Free Alternative lol.
#5597 [21:17] <AG_Scott> anyways 512mb = 5-6 slots probably
#5598 [21:17] <theunleet> I tried free Alts.. couldn't get them working correctly
#5599 [21:17] <AG_Scott> McMyAdmin is the best wrapper imo.
#5600 [21:18] <theunleet> McMyAdmin worked.
#5601 [21:18] <AG_Scott> It's free for up to 8 slots but we can't offer the free edition.
#5602 [21:18] <AG_Scott> You can install it though.
#5603 [21:19] <theunleet> http://www.phonicuk.com/Software/McMyAdmin.aspx
#5604 [21:19] <nevercast> Hmm I'll probably still go with the VPS options.. as straight up as you lot seem I've just always been skeptic on 'bundle' deals.
#5605 [21:19] <AG_Scott> Well, it's fairly straight forward.
#5606 [21:19] <AG_Scott> The minecraft server is a VPS with all the stuff already installed.
#5607 [21:20] <AG_Scott> Though by all means get the VPS, less work for us ;)
#5608 [21:20] <nevercast> Haha.
#5609 [21:20] <Empis_Home> what plugin u recommend to protect the world? and set the owner of the blocks
#5610 [21:20] <nevercast> Hmm.. god damn decisions
#5611 [21:20] <nevercast> so $3.00 gives me a lifetime licence of McMyAdmin, AG_Scott
#5612 [21:20] <AG_Scott> no
#5613 [21:21] <AG_Scott> its $3/month
#5614 [21:21] <nevercast> for every month I'm registered?
#5615 [21:21] <AG_Scott> As long as you keep your services with us and pay the fees, you can use it.
#5616 [21:22] <AG_Scott> Or you can just buy the professional license directly from phonicuk for $15~
#5617 [21:22] <AG_Scott> One time fee.
#5618 [21:22] <nevercast> Yeah that is what I was thinking
#5619 [21:22] <nevercast> If I expect to have the server longer than... 6 months
#5620 [21:22] <AG_Scott> We're a "McMyAdmin Premium Provider" btw ;D
#5621 [21:22] <nevercast> It's more sense to grab a full licence.
#5622 [21:22] <nevercast> AG_Scott, What does that mean lol.
#5623 [21:22] <Kealper> AG_Scott: :o
#5624 [21:23] <Kealper> fancy
#5625 [21:23] <AG_Clinton> Means we're badassery.
#5626 [21:23] <Kealper> lol
#5627 [21:23] <nevercast> No seriously :P
#5628 [21:23] <Kealper> .set mode AG_Clinton +v
#5629 [21:23] <AG_Scott> Basically just means we aren't a VPS reseller and keep a presence on IRC among a few other things
#5630 [21:23] <nevercast> Ahh ;)
#5631 [21:23] <AG_Clinton> And provide a good service.
#5632 [21:23] <AG_Scott> Only one I think.
#5633 [21:23] <AG_Clinton> That apparently includes tech support for people that aren't only our customers.
#5634 [21:24] <Kealper> all you AG_* people should have "AG_*" on hilight lol
#5635 [21:24] <AG_Clinton> My phone does.
#5636 [21:24] <AG_Scott> AllGamer and AG highlights me ;>
#5637 [21:24] <Kealper> lol
#5638 [21:24] <tpw_rules> sooo, can anybody solve my problem?
#5639 [21:25] <nevercast> AG_Scott, What payment methods do you guys support?
#5640 [21:25] <saschagehlich> what is the syntax for doing colored "say"s on the server console?
#5641 [21:25] <AG_Scott> People occasionally come in various channels looking for support
#5642 [21:25] <AG_Scott> They say our name and we can direct them to our support dept.
#5643 [21:25] <Kealper> saschagehlich: quite annoying
#5644 [21:25] <AG_Scott> nevercast, all major credit cards via paypal or google checkout
#5645 [21:25] <Kealper> saschagehlich: you can't just type it out, it's a double S symbol with a single color code after it
#5646 [21:26] <nevercast> Right.. Paypal is a toss of shit. I'll try my luck with Google Checkout
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#5648 [21:26] <saschagehlich> ah I see, thanks a Lot Kealper
#5649 [21:27] <nevercast> I think I'll go for a Basic VPS and if I need more later, update is easy.. After all.. it's Virtual Hardware
#5650 [21:27] <nevercast> s/update/upgrade/
#5651 [21:27] <AG_Scott> ye
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#5653 [21:28] <nevercast> Shit I'm gonna need a domain
#5654 [21:28] <AG_Clinton> Upside to VPS' is they're instant setup.
#5655 [21:28] <Kealper> nevercast: no you won't
#5656 [21:29] <nevercast> You're right.. I don't lol.
#5657 [21:29] <AG_Scott> You can put whatever in that box if it's asking you
#5658 [21:29] <Kealper> nevercast: dyndns :P
#5659 [21:29] <nevercast> haha
#5660 [21:29] <AG_Scott> google.com for all i care.
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#5662 [21:29] <nevercast> Hmm.. easy to remember password.. or randomly generated..
#5663 [21:29] * nevercast ponders
#5663 [21:29] <nevercast> I need a keychain tbh
#5664 [21:31] <nevercast> Hey.. Kealper. Give me a promo code if ya have one :D
#5665 [21:31] <Kealper> i'm afk for some Doom 3 on Veteran mode :o
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#5667 [21:32] <nevercast> Anyone got an AG promo code?
#5668 [21:32] <Kealper> AG_Scott: can i borrow a promo code so i can look sweet and give it to nevercast with?xD
#5669 [21:32] <nevercast> no? damn it
#5670 [21:32] <AG_Scott> we had a sale on valentines day
#5671 [21:32] <AG_Clinton> I want to play Doom 3 :/
#5672 [21:32] <AG_Scott> you missed it :P
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#5674 [21:33] <gary> guys
#5675 [21:33] <nevercast> Yeah.. I was busy on valentines day being single and playing minecraft.. my bad
#5676 [21:33] <nevercast> lol.
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#5678 [21:33] <gary> is it possible to host minecraft on a cheap hosting like hostgator?
#5679 [21:33] <AG_Scott> Umm gary you can't on their webhosting
#5680 [21:33] <MrHabbits> Anyone know why the update is giving massive delay lag?
#5681 [21:33] <Kealper> http://allgamer.net <-- they sell minecraft server :/
#5682 [21:33] <AG_Scott> but you can on their VPS's
#5683 [21:33] <Kealper> :O*
#5684 [21:33] <AG_Scott> They're VPS's are expensive though
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#5687 [21:34] <AG_Scott> Their*
#5688 [21:34] <Kealper> you AG guys have my permission to do shameless plugs, you know >.>
#5689 [21:34] <Lilacpetals> I went to run minecraft today and it's back to Beta 2 . I uninstalled it,downloaded it again, and it's the same thing. Is that just me?
#5690 [21:34] <gary> im just already paying for a site so i thought i could kill two birds with one stone
#5691 [21:34] <AG_Scott> webhosting can't really run software like that
#5692 [21:34] <AG_Scott> sorry
#5693 [21:35] <gary> baww, ok
#5694 [21:35] <S4LT> on a fresh download of the server files I'm getting the "kicked {ip address}: you need to log in!" message
#5695 [21:35] <Lilacpetals> I haven't downloaded anything new, so i don't know what i did D=
#5696 [21:36] <nevercast> Right where's my credit card...
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#5698 [21:36] <AG_Scott> In my mouth :>
#5699 [21:36] <nevercast> Wow young adults like me shouldn't have these
#5700 [21:36] <Kealper> S4LT: you downloaded the wrong server software, that is for classic
#5701 [21:36] <Kealper> !server
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#5703 [21:36] <Kealper> get that
#5704 [21:36] <S4LT> ok, I'll try that
#5705 [21:36] <S4LT> thankx
#5706 [21:36] <nevercast> AG_Scott, lol... well I need that.. unless you can read the numbers out to me?
#5707 [21:36] <S4LT> s
#5708 [21:36] <Blue> I need help with buying the game.
#5709 [21:37] <Kealper> Blue: what sort of help?
#5710 [21:37] <AG_Scott> Sure, i'll read them off on here :>
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#5712 [21:37] <nevercast> AG_Scott, go for it
#5713 [21:37] <Kealper> AG_Scott: just make sure to tell us his SSN too :P
#5714 [21:37] <Blue> It's not letting me purchase the game online when I use a pre-paid visa card called " My Treat. "
#5715 [21:37] <nevercast> Kealper, my old SSN is 889
#5716 [21:37] <nevercast> Kealper, But that expired about 5 months ago and is now useless :(
#5717 [21:37] <AG_Scott> Blue, you should contact Paypal.
#5718 [21:37] <Blue> I just bought it today and it has $25.00 CAN on it.
#5719 [21:37] <nevercast> Kealper, Now I gotta learn a new one
#5720 [21:37] <Kealper> Blue: most prepaid cards do not allow international payments :/
#5721 [21:38] <Blue> OH @@@#$!!!!@#$ :p :p :p :p :p
#5722 [21:38] <Blue> ok thanks for the help lmao.
#5723 [21:38] <Kealper> nevercast: mine is 867-11-5309
#5724 [21:38] <Blue> I'll try and set up a paypal account :)
#5725 [21:39] <AG_Scott> Kealper, hahahaha
#5726 [21:39] <Kealper> when you see it, you'll shit bricks :P
#5727 [21:39] <AG_Scott> According to the Social Security Administration, this SSN has NOT been issued.
#5728 [21:41] <nevercast> AG_Scott, GoogleCheckout is connecting...
#5729 [21:41] <theunleet> My SSN IS 5
#5730 [21:41] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Transaction Complete!
#5731 [21:41] <AG_Scott> It's automated once they tell us you paid
#5732 [21:41] <S4LT> so when I started the server my terrain was
#5733 [21:41] * Kealper fires up Doom 3
#5733 [21:41] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Well the money is out of my account I can confirm that :P
#5734 [21:41] <S4LT> nonexistent
#5735 [21:41] <S4LT> do I need to place world files in to start with
#5736 [21:41] <AG_Clinton> nevercast: Check your email.
#5737 [21:41] <theunleet> Doom 3... very nice.
#5738 [21:42] <theunleet> I still have the Original Doom
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#5740 [21:42] <theunleet> And Duke Nukem
#5741 [21:42] <theunleet> And Duke Nukem 3D
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#5743 [21:42] <Kealper> i'm a Doom nut
#5744 [21:42] <DARKKING> could someoe help
#5745 [21:42] <DARKKING> me
#5746 [21:42] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#5747 [21:42] <theunleet> We COULD help you
#5748 [21:42] <Kealper> got all the Doom games to-date, and will get Doom 4 when it comes out :o
#5749 [21:42] <SkiingPenguins> if you'd say what's wrong, DARKKING
#5750 [21:43] <DARKKING> iam logging into a server and iam flying in the sky how do i fix that?
#5751 [21:43] <lemon-rev> its called lag
#5752 [21:43] <theunleet> You fly AS you are logging in?
#5753 [21:43] <DARKKING> it wont load i cant chat
#5754 [21:43] <DARKKING> yah
#5755 [21:43] <nevercast> AG_Clinton, I have a Welcome, an Invoice and a Confirmation from AGGamer
#5756 [21:43] <DARKKING> my charter is flying
#5757 [21:43] <S4LT> I think he means there's no terrain
#5758 [21:43] <AG_Clinton> It should send you another email.
#5759 [21:43] <DARKKING> no land under me
#5760 [21:43] <S4LT> that's the issue I"m having
#5761 [21:43] <theunleet> I didn't know MC gave you a Charter...
#5762 [21:43] <S4LT> his english probably isn't very good
#5763 [21:43] <DARKKING> i have the beta
#5764 [21:44] <theunleet> LOL
#5765 [21:44] <AG_Scott> nevercast, you were sent the server info email, just checked.
#5766 [21:44] <DARKKING> MY ENGLISH IS PLENTY GOOS
#5767 [21:44] <DARKKING> GOOD
#5768 [21:44] <theunleet> I wish my English was a Goose
#5769 [21:44] <DARKKING> (glares)
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#5771 [21:44] <theunleet> Haha
#5772 [21:44] <DARKKING> now how do i fix it
#5773 [21:45] <theunleet> Use a parachute?
#5774 [21:45] <DARKKING> WHAT GOOD WOULD THAT BE?
#5775 [21:45] <nevercast> 3 more emails, one from Google, Two from All Gamer
#5776 [21:45] <nevercast> 6 in total from you guys.. wow I'm loved
#5777 [21:45] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#5778 [21:46] <nevercast> Putty! lol.. actually I think I have that in Wine.
#5779 [21:46] <theunleet> Putty is for Windows or for Linux
#5780 [21:46] <AG_Scott> If you're on linux, just use openssh :P
#5781 [21:47] <theunleet> I like graphical opposed to the terminal
#5782 [21:47] <nevercast> $ ssh <ip>
#5783 [21:47] <nevercast> terminal ftw
#5784 [21:47] <AG_Scott> Ubuntu has a GUI app for it too
#5785 [21:47] <theunleet> I know
#5786 [21:47] <theunleet> WinSCP is good.
#5787 [21:48] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Permission denied, please try again
#5788 [21:48] <nevercast> LOLWAT
#5789 [21:48] <SkiingPenguins> i like VNC personally >.<
#5790 [21:48] <S4LT> darkkling
#5791 [21:48] <theunleet> You got ownt
#5792 [21:48] <S4LT> wait for a few minutes and reconnect to your server
#5793 [21:48] <AG_Scott> try ssh root@yourip
#5794 [21:49] <nevercast> root, instead of vmuser?
#5795 [21:49] <nevercast> well that makes more sense
#5796 [21:49] <AG_Scott> well yeah lol..
#5797 [21:49] <AG_Scott> that's your username for the control panel
#5798 [21:49] <nevercast> I was going to change that username if it was for the box anyway
#5799 [21:49] <nevercast> it's ugly as :P
#5800 [21:49] <theunleet> vmuser.. how retarded
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#5802 [21:50] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I'm in.. thanks
#5803 [21:50] <AG_Scott> you're welcome.
#5804 [21:50] <AG_Scott> enjoy
#5805 [21:50] <nevercast> root@google
#5806 [21:50] <nevercast> LOL
#5807 [21:50] <nevercast> You actually ... haha
#5808 [21:50] <mib_0fhepr> anyone want to play survival island?
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#5810 [21:51] <theunleet> I see London I see France, I see your CPanels underpants
#5811 [21:51] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#5812 [21:51] <theunleet> LOL
#5813 [21:52] <theunleet> yay for Java errors
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#5815 [21:55] <theunleet> Tornado Warnings... woo
#5816 [21:55] <Elvang> theunleet: Where you at?
#5817 [21:55] <theunleet> Tennessee.
#5818 [21:55] <Elvang> Ah
#5819 [21:55] <theunleet> Right in the middle of this huge storm
#5820 [21:56] <theunleet> If you have looked at the weather recently
#5821 [21:56] <Elvang> You're getting what passed through here a few days ago then
#5822 [21:56] <AG_Scott> theunleet, i live in missouri
#5823 [21:56] <AG_Scott> we had that earlier :P
#5824 [21:56] <theunleet> We already have some stuff being destroyed
#5825 [21:57] <theunleet> My satelite TV is out... but luckily rain doesn't affect my internet.
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#5828 [21:57] <theunleet> I should get Netflix
#5829 [21:58] <SkiingPenguins> my tv and interwebs go through the ground to my house
#5830 [21:58] <theunleet> Is the Online Streaming worth it?>
#5831 [21:58] <theunleet> Well my itnernet is DSL, and my TV is DirecTV
#5832 [21:58] <AG_Scott> I had netflix
#5833 [21:59] <AG_Scott> i ended up canceling it because of lack of linux support and crappy selection
#5834 [21:59] <theunleet> I'm going to use the NetFlix App on my PS3
#5835 [22:00] <theunleet> so the online streaming selection is crap?
#5836 [22:01] <nevercast> Hey AG_Scott, Can I bother you with a quick linux question.
#5837 [22:01] <AG_Scott> maybe
#5838 [22:01] <theunleet> You can bother me about it too
#5839 [22:01] <AG_Scott> theunleet, i think so
#5840 [22:01] <nevercast> Hey AG_Scott, When I su into my other user.. I don't have highlighting on my commands.. I wont get that when I ssh into that user will I?
#5841 [22:02] <AG_Scott> i'd rather just get the content.. else where
#5842 [22:02] <AG_Scott> highlighting?
#5843 [22:02] <nevercast> AG_Scott, When you 'ls'.. Directories and Files and Executables are highlighted
#5844 [22:02] <theunleet> Oh I know elsewhere to get media... but on DSL it's not worth downloading
#5845 [22:02] <nevercast> AG_Scott, But not after 'su' ing into another user.
#5846 [22:03] <theunleet> Sounds correct nevercast.
#5847 [22:04] <nevercast> theunleet, thanks.. was just checking.
#5848 [22:04] <nevercast> Can't be running Minecraft Server as root user
#5849 [22:04] <nevercast> I'd have to be shot
#5850 [22:04] <theunleet> LOL
#5851 [22:05] <nevercast> Go Java!! Install you beauty!
#5852 [22:05] <nevercast> It's sure nice to have decent internet on a VPS
#5853 [22:05] <Empis_Home> do i need some plugin to setup groups in bukkit?
#5854 [22:06] <AG_Scott> nevercast, you had crappy before? :P
#5855 [22:06] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Hey what?
#5856 [22:06] <theunleet> Dial-Up VPS?
#5857 [22:06] <theunleet> LOL
#5858 [22:07] <Cial> ?
#5859 [22:07] <Cial> gah
#5860 [22:07] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Oh yah!! I've had some slow VPS's.. had some really fast ones too.. but that was free because it was HOT and the guy that owned it didn't wanna have anything to do with it lol.
#5861 [22:07] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Been using it for DoS'ing.. and then got bust.. was like, Dude.. Want a Free VPS ? :P
#5862 [22:07] <AG_Scott> lol.
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#5864 [22:08] <nevercast> Of course I took it.. wtf do I care. I'm in New Zealand.. FBI ain't going to bother with the long trip lol.
#5865 [22:08] <theunleet> Just host a botnet on it xD
#5866 [22:08] <AG_Scott> :<
#5867 [22:09] <theunleet> wit i didnt say that
#5868 [22:09] <theunleet> wait
#5869 [22:09] <nevercast> Oh Shi
#5870 [22:09] <nevercast> I created an account
#5871 [22:09] <nevercast> without a password
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#5873 [22:09] <nevercast> Now it's like.. enter password to change!
#5874 [22:09] <nevercast> uhh.. there isn't one.. wtf
#5875 [22:09] <nevercast> WRONG PASSWORD
#5876 [22:09] <theunleet> so hit enter
#5877 [22:09] <nevercast> I did
#5878 [22:10] <theunleet> ok use a space
#5879 [22:10] <nevercast> It was like, Manipulation Error
#5880 [22:10] <nevercast> I'll just change it via root
#5881 [22:10] <theunleet> password for what?
#5882 [22:10] <nevercast> root is awesome
#5883 [22:10] <nevercast> theunleet, my minecraft account
#5884 [22:10] <nevercast> or 'user'
#5885 [22:11] <theunleet> make sure you change your su password
#5886 [22:11] <nevercast> theunleet, Err what?
#5887 [22:11] <theunleet> "su passwd"
#5888 [22:11] <nevercast> theunleet, why would I do that?
#5889 [22:11] <nevercast> theunleet, I'm in root user.. with a password set at VPS setup
#5890 [22:11] <theunleet> ah ok
#5891 [22:11] <theunleet> didnt know you were logged in as a root
#5892 [22:12] <theunleet> normal users should change root password
#5893 [22:12] <nevercast> theunleet, and minecraft doesn't even have the sudo group assigned to it.. so it can't do shit except fuck around in it's home dir
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#5895 [22:12] <nevercast> theunleet, which is where I want the server..
#5896 [22:12] <theunleet> gotcha
#5897 [22:12] <nevercast> :)
#5898 [22:13] <nevercast> !isdown minecraft.net
#5899 [22:13] <nevercast> err.. no GreyBot today?
#5900 [22:14] <theunleet> maybe it sploded
#5901 [22:15] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I shelled into my minecraft user.. No highlighting.. it's strange lol..
#5902 [22:15] <AG_Scott> hmm weird.
#5903 [22:15] <AG_Scott> Is it in the bash profile?
#5904 [22:15] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I've not looked into it
#5905 [22:16] <nevercast> AG_Scott, # enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
#5906 [22:16] <nevercast> AG_Scott, It's in the profile, yeah
#5907 [22:17] <xales> nevercast: did you use su or su -?
#5908 [22:17] <xales> "su - user"
#5909 [22:17] <xales> not "su user"
#5910 [22:17] <nevercast> Oh..
#5911 [22:17] <xales> pwnt.
#5912 [22:17] <nevercast> hmm one second xales
#5913 [22:17] <nevercast> xales, still no color.. pwnt and stfu :P
#5914 [22:18] <xales> D:
#5915 [22:18] <xales> try
#5916 [22:18] <xales> echo $TERM
#5917 [22:18] <nevercast> xales, AG_Scott was right it's the profile
#5918 [22:18] <xales> should be xterm or you get no color
#5919 [22:18] <xales> :P
#5920 [22:18] <nevercast> It's xterm of course
#5921 [22:18] <nevercast> and my shell is /bin/bash
#5922 [22:18] <theunleet> he gets color on current user, not on a different su user.
#5923 [22:18] <nevercast> I set that all up correctly..
#5924 [22:18] <nevercast> I just need to copy my .bashrc and .profile files from /root to /home/minecraft
#5925 [22:19] <xales> it should be in /etc/skel by default
#5926 [22:19] <xales> so you should have color
#5927 [22:19] <Kealper> i wish i could spare some change to get a little cps :/
#5928 [22:19] <Kealper> vps*
#5929 [22:19] <theunleet> i'll throw you a dollar
#5930 [22:20] <Kealper> a dollar is not enough lol
#5931 [22:20] <theunleet> ok I will throw you an extra dollar so you can afford it
#5932 [22:20] <Kealper> lol
#5933 [22:21] <theunleet> And a free Lobster dinner courtesy of the Trash outside Red Lobster
#5934 [22:21] <nevercast> xales, thanks for that directory.. just copied everything from there to minecraft home directory.. highlighting is go
#5935 [22:22] <nevercast> theunleet, lol.
#5936 [22:22] <xales> nevercast: by default /etc/skel is copied to a new user's home directory
#5937 [22:22] <xales> unless you created the user in a weird way
#5938 [22:22] <nevercast> xales, useradd ?
#5939 [22:22] <theunleet> since they are having LobsterFest or whatever
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#5941 [22:22] <xales> nevercast: that's why
#5942 [22:22] <xales> you shouldn't use useradd
#5943 [22:22] <xales> you should use adduser
#5944 [22:22] <Mikau> okay, here goes!
#5945 [22:22] <nevercast> adduser adds a user to a group
#5946 [22:23] <Mikau> if I roll a 6, I go to college tomorrow
#5947 [22:23] <xales> compare `man adduser` to `useradd`
#5948 [22:23] <Mikau> !roll 1d6
#5949 [22:23] <xales> and no, it doesn't
#5950 [22:23] <xales> :)
#5951 [22:23] <Mikau> WHAT?
#5952 [22:23] <nevercast> wai-what
#5953 [22:23] <xales> nevercast: useradd is a low level utility for adding users. On Debian, administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead.
#5954 [22:23] <Mikau> Did roll break?
#5955 [22:23] <Mikau> what happened to it? :(
#5956 [22:23] <xales> Mikau: greybot is gone
#5957 [22:23] <xales> for now
#5958 [22:23] <Mikau> The fate of my education and evening depend on it
#5959 [22:23] <Mikau> What will I do?
#5960 [22:23] <nevercast> xales, add user or group.. not add user to group
#5961 [22:23] <Mikau> I'll be stuck in limbo
#5962 [22:23] <nevercast> xales, god damn lol.
#5963 [22:24] <nevercast> xales, oh well it's all fixed now.. even if I did have to create the home dir myself and add shit to it.. learning experience well done
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#5965 [22:24] <Randomawol> hey
#5966 [22:24] <theunleet> Mikau I will flip a coin
#5967 [22:24] <xales> hi Randomawol
#5968 [22:24] <theunleet> Heads you go to College, Tails you will do nothing.
#5969 [22:24] <Mikau> I don't trust you
#5970 [22:24] <Mikau> You're not a bot
#5971 [22:24] <Mikau> You'll lie just to ruin my evening
#5972 [22:24] <Randomawol> i still havent gottan an email back yet from earlyer
#5973 [22:24] <Mikau> or lie just to ruin my education
#5974 [22:25] <Mikau> see? I can't rust you
#5975 [22:25] <Kealper> want me to make AuBot randomly pick heads or tails?
#5976 [22:25] <nevercast> LOL I was going to ask if Linux and DynDns have a dynamic updater
#5977 [22:25] <nevercast> .. but it's a VPS
#5978 [22:25] <Mikau> NO
#5979 [22:25] <theunleet> ....Ok I have TWO QUARTERS here.
#5980 [22:25] <nevercast> Fuckin' Static IP's MOFO
#5981 [22:25] <Mikau> aubot needs to learn to roll
#5982 [22:25] <theunleet> If they both land on the same side you go to college.
#5983 [22:25] <AG_Scott> nevercast, there's a cli client.
#5984 [22:25] <Kealper> Mikau: but i'm lazy :<
#5985 [22:26] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Oh, Php?
#5986 [22:26] <Mikau> You'll never amount to any form of dinosaur.
#5987 [22:26] <AG_Scott> i forget the name
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#5989 [22:26] <AG_Scott> i have it on my home server
#5990 [22:26] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Hmmm... well I don't need it anyway lol.
#5991 [22:26] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I use no-ip for everything except for the server and it's static
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#5993 [22:26] <theunleet> You got HEADS HEADS
#5994 [22:27] <theunleet> College it is for you.
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#5997 [22:29] <nevercast> Why is the server not sending me chunks :(
#5998 [22:29] <roblog> ahh. there we go. set up irssi for esper. i was getting really sick of ugly ass x-chat.
#5999 [22:30] <nevercast> Come on little VPS.. upload me your map!
#6000 [22:30] <dopeghoti> morning, kids
#6001 [22:30] <xales> roblog: \o/
#6002 [22:30] <dopeghoti> roblog: welcome to real IRC (:
#6003 [22:30] <xales> ^
#6004 [22:30] <nevercast> Kealper, how'd you fix your server?
#6005 [22:30] <Kealper> eh?
#6006 [22:31] <nevercast> well your server is working real good compared to how it was
#6007 [22:31] <nevercast> well how it was is how mine is
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#6009 [22:31] <Kealper> before it was like...spamming can't keep up for some reason, i just restarted the process and it works fine again
#6010 [22:31] <Kealper> stupid code fails >:(
#6011 [22:31] <roblog> i always use irssi on freenode, but i was too lazy to set it up for esper since i use a different nick here, but i could only take so much x-chat before i felt like vomiting.
#6012 [22:31] <nevercast> Mine claims it can keep up
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#6014 [22:31] <nevercast> Kealper, but I got MASSIVE lag
#6015 [22:31] <theliea> hello
#6016 [22:31] <roblog> i missed having my hilight window, etc.
#6017 [22:32] <theliea> i want no whitelist survival server..... in korea
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#6019 [22:32] <xales> ??> theliea smp/servers
#6020 [22:32] <VoxelHead> theliea: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
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#6022 [22:32] <VoxelHead> theliea: (smp/servers) You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#6023 [22:32] <theunleet> the legion website is dead
#6024 [22:32] <theliea> website is dead ..
#6025 [22:33] <killergut> ye i cant ge ton website
#6026 [22:33] <theunleet> not sure why it spams a dead website
#6027 [22:33] <nevercast> Kealper, my VPS has less ping that your server.. your server is running better.. why :(
#6028 [22:33] <theliea> i want 24/7 , pvp survival(no build) server
#6029 [22:33] <xales> theliea: we aren't here to find servers for you. http://mcserverlist.net/
#6030 [22:34] <theliea> not 1.3 !!! uu
#6031 [22:34] <CoinOp> So I was playing minecraft, then the game crashed, and now when I try to load my save it loads me into the same spot I crashed in, and then the program crashes.
#6032 [22:34] <Kealper> becuase my server is a dedicated box, it only has to worry about one OS :P
#6033 [22:34] <nevercast> Hey it's speeding up.. maybe it's my computer :D
#6034 [22:34] <theliea> may server is 1.2
#6035 [22:34] <theliea> many server is 1.2_02
#6036 [22:34] <nevercast> Kealper, log into my VPs would ya?
#6037 [22:34] <nevercast> Kealper, 209.236.121.210
#6038 [22:34] <nevercast> Minecraft that shit :D
#6039 [22:34] <theunleet> ima mc that
#6040 [22:34] <Kealper> in a bit....i'm Doom 3'ing
#6041 [22:35] <theunleet> whats the port
#6042 [22:35] <theunleet> i dont have default mc port memorized
#6043 [22:35] <nevercast> theunleet, if it's the default.. leave it blank
#6044 [22:35] <nevercast> ( 25565 )
#6045 [22:36] <theunleet> logging in
#6046 [22:36] <roblog> http://roblog.us/screenshots/gentoo.png irssi is so purty.
#6047 [22:37] <roblog> best irc client ever made, imo.
#6048 [22:37] <aetherian> beatles?
#6049 [22:38] <xales> roblog: /me takes screenshot, excuse ugly font, i'm on my laptop
#6050 [22:38] <roblog> xales: me too.
#6051 [22:38] <xales> roblog: my laptop is running Mac OS X and I'm too lazy to put a better OS on it
#6052 [22:38] * mib_9p3z2r [mib_9p3z2r@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#6053 [22:38] <xales> :P
#6054 [22:38] <Diablothein> The foundation for Castle Halorik has been set!
#6055 [22:38] <roblog> normally i use fluxbox, but i decided to give gnome a whirl since i haven't used it in a few years.
#6056 [22:38] <mib_9p3z2r> hey, ok so i'm getting a error, i looked it up, and its a opengl error/drivers issue which i'm sure my drivers are up to date, my graphics card is a radeon x600 any help?
#6057 [22:39] <xales> mib_9p3z2r: well, that's definately the issue
#6058 [22:39] <xales> an x600 is far, far too old to play it
#6059 [22:39] <mib_9p3z2r> figures, bad graphics card
#6060 [22:39] <mib_9p3z2r> Lol
#6061 [22:39] <mib_9p3z2r> ok thanks
#6062 [22:39] <xales> sorry =/
#6063 [22:39] <mib_9p3z2r> it worked in alpha so i figured it might still
#6064 [22:39] <xales> roblog: I normally use fluxbox too, and trying gnome recently too :P
#6065 [22:39] <mib_9p3z2r> its six years old lol
#6066 [22:39] <xales> mib_9p3z2r: the requirements increase as stuff is added =/
#6067 [22:39] <mib_9p3z2r> yeah i understand that, thanks so much, time to go buy a new card lol
#6068 [22:40] <xales> roblog: http://darksigns.net/xales/laptopirc.png
#6069 [22:41] <roblog> xales: jesus. i thought *i* had a lot of channel windows open. i know a lot of yours are query windows too but daaaamn.
#6070 [22:42] <xales> roblog: I'm at the channel limit on Esper
#6071 [22:42] <xales> well, I'm in 25, which is the limit
#6072 [22:42] <xales> but #help doesn't count
#6073 [22:44] <roblog> i'm kinda weird. i'm actually running screen on my VPS with irssi and chatting through SSH to VPS. my home connection can be spotty, so i prefer to not miss anything on irc from dropped connection.
#6074 [22:44] * xales does that too, but uses tmux instead of screen
#6074 [22:44] <xales> and most people do that, actually :D
#6075 [22:44] <xales> 22:44:49 up 192 days, 3:36, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
#6076 [22:45] <xales> ^ /exec -out uptime
#6077 [22:45] <xales> :D
#6078 [22:45] <roblog> 19:45:38 up 10 days, 18:21, 1 user, load average: 1.01, 0.97, 0.96
#6079 [22:45] <roblog> heh.
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#6081 [22:45] <roblog> if i did that through my web sever it would be something like 60some days.
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#6083 [22:45] <Kouken> hey
#6084 [22:45] <Kouken> What is a seed?
#6085 [22:45] <roblog> it's a thing that trees group from.
#6086 [22:45] <roblog> silly.
#6087 [22:45] <roblog> :X
#6088 [22:45] <Kouken> ....
#6089 [22:46] <Kouken> I've heard people talk of marking a seed with 0 on minecraft to get diamonds
#6090 [22:46] <Kouken> Also
#6091 [22:46] <Takarias> I'm sorry... I don't mean to be a jerk, Kouken, but weren't you just making fun of me for having a Mac in the other room?
#6092 [22:46] <xales> Kouken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_seed
#6093 [22:47] <Kouken> I'm sorry, don't you have an iphone to play with or something?
#6094 [22:48] <Takarias> Anyway, I hate to just jump in asking for help, but I'm having great difficulty getting texture packs to work on my Mac. If anyone familiar with installing them could PM me, it would me much appreciated.
#6095 [22:48] <Kealper> Kouken: don't be a douche, just because you don't like a company does not mean that you have to spread your hate about it
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#6097 [22:48] <sardo97> Hello.
#6098 [22:48] <xales> hi
#6099 [22:48] <xales> ??> Takarias irc/dontpm
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#6101 [22:48] <VoxelHead> Takarias: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#6102 [22:48] <xales> Takarias: what specifically doesn't work
#6103 [22:48] <Kouken> Does what you name a server affect what the terrain is like?
#6104 [22:49] <Kouken> I named a map desert and started in a desert like area
#6105 [22:49] <Kealper> no
#6106 [22:49] <Kealper> it makes no difference
#6107 [22:49] <Kouken> then named one tundra and subsequently started in a tundra
#6108 [22:49] <Kouken> Heh
#6109 [22:49] <roblog> woohoo. my server is almost done. all i need now is a good working faction plugin, and to set up permissions for the different roles and classes, then my LAST DAYS Post-Apocalyptic RP server will be done.
#6110 [22:49] <Kouken> Is it true you always spawn on sand
#6111 [22:49] <xales> Kouken: no
#6112 [22:50] <Takarias> Well, xales, I can't seem to find the Minecraft folder in Application Support. I've tried searching for it in other places, but it doesn't seem to exist.
#6113 [22:50] <sardo97> roblog, thats seems like a good idea for a server
#6114 [22:51] <Takarias> I also tried making the folders, but that also seemed to do nothing.
#6115 [22:51] <sardo97> xales do you know notch in reallife
#6116 [22:51] <roblog> anyone with the LAST DAYS texture pack is welcome to join my LAST DAYS server. lemme know if you want on the whitelist
#6117 [22:51] <sardo97> >
#6118 [22:51] <sardo97> ?
#6119 [22:51] <xales> Takarias: are you in the right Application Support? There is one for the system (in the Library folder on Machintosh HD) and one for your user (in the Library folder in [yourname])
#6120 [22:51] <xales> the second one is what you want
#6121 [22:51] <sardo97> Um, what is +b and -b?
#6122 [22:51] <Takarias> Let me take a look for that. I'm probably in the non-user one.
#6123 [22:51] <GLaDOS> silly AuBot
#6124 [22:51] <GLaDOS> >
#6125 [22:51] <Kealper> banned, it mutes you from talking...you spoke too fast
#6126 [22:51] <GLaDOS> >
#6127 [22:52] <GLaDOS> i wanna be B& D:
#6128 [22:52] <sardo97> Oh, I'll be more careful next time!
#6129 [22:52] <Kealper> GLaDOS: i don't think you can, you might be on it's ignore list
#6130 [22:52] <GLaDOS> oh yeah
#6131 [22:52] <GLaDOS> damn xales :c
#6132 [22:52] <Kealper> it's 3 messages in 2 seconds if you wanted to try though lol
#6133 [22:52] <GLaDOS> g
#6134 [22:52] <GLaDOS> g
#6135 [22:52] <GLaDOS> g
#6136 [22:52] <sardo97> Lol
#6137 [22:52] <Kealper> GLaDOS: being on that specific ignore list i'm talking about is a good thing
#6138 [22:52] <GLaDOS> ah
#6139 [22:53] * GLaDOS hugs xales
#6139 [22:53] <Kealper> means you are exempt from flood protection lol
#6140 [22:53] <roblog> i really hope portal 2 runs well under wine
#6141 [22:53] <xales> hi GLaDOS
#6142 [22:54] <Kealper> mrflea is now playing Team Fortress 2
#6143 [22:54] <Kealper> xales: let's go gang up on him >:D
#6144 [22:54] <Takarias> Xales: I found the folders you will talking about and assume things will go smoothly now. I'll let you know either way.
#6145 [22:54] <xales> Kealper: busy doing work <.<
#6146 [22:54] <Kealper> :<
#6147 [22:54] <xales> i would totally pocket medic him
#6148 [22:54] <xales> just to make him rage
#6149 [22:54] <Kealper> lol
#6150 [22:54] <xales> because he plays spy or something
#6151 [22:54] <xales> mostly
#6152 [22:55] <Kealper> sniper ftw!
#6153 [22:55] * xales plays sniper
#6153 [22:55] * xales plays medic
#6153 [22:55] <Takarias> And that seems to have done it. Thank you very much xales.
#6154 [22:55] * xales plays pyro
#6154 [22:55] * xales plays spy
#6154 [22:55] <Kealper> lol
#6155 [22:56] * xales plays demoman
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#6156 [22:56] * xales plays nothing else
#6156 [22:56] <nineoh9> any suggestions to tame the odd stutters I'm having while playing?
#6157 [22:57] <Kealper> nineoh9: diable Smooth Lighting in the graphics settings
#6158 [22:57] <Kealper> ingame
#6159 [22:57] <nineoh9> i itred that, but it didn't seem to have a positive effect
#6160 [22:58] <xales> nineoh9: did it just start this with the latest update?
#6161 [22:58] <nineoh9> yeah
#6162 [22:58] <xales> nineoh9: singleplayer?
#6163 [22:58] <nineoh9> yup
#6164 [22:59] <xales> nineoh9: do you have any other programs open, including antivirus? (some are known to cause weird issues - most don't)
#6165 [22:59] <nineoh9> well, I do typically have some programs running in the background, like av
#6166 [22:59] <roblog> my laptop is a powerhouse... except for the stupid video card. two dual core 2.17cpus, 4gb ram, but only intel mobile HD4500 (256mb vram, 1024mb shared)
#6167 [23:00] <roblog> and i have to keep limit framerate on, with tiny view distance and smooth lighting off to get a good framerate
#6168 [23:01] <xales> nineoh9: what, exactly?
#6169 [23:01] <xales> try closing most of the programs, and disabling the antivirus temporarily, to see if it still happens
#6170 [23:02] <nineoh9> you know, the newest version of avg doesn't have an option to close, I'll have to kill the process...
#6171 [23:02] <roblog> nineoh9: what xales said. also kill firefox or any other browser. theyre ram hogs even when idle
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#6173 [23:03] <tahnok> anyone know how to view your chars face?
#6174 [23:03] <roblog> avg sucks now. i don't run windows, and haven't since 1995, but i do keep up with windows security because my mom, dad, step mom, step dad, both my sisters, my brother-in-law, and my wife all run windows.
#6175 [23:04] <nineoh9> yeah I feel it isn't as good as it once was.
#6176 [23:04] <nineoh9> I'll have to keep an eye out for a new av
#6177 [23:04] <roblog> get rid of avg and replace it with (of all things) the microsoft security suite. currently the best windows AV is actually the free one from microsoft.
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#6179 [23:05] <nineoh9> does minecraft run on linux or mac os, I forget
#6180 [23:05] <roblog> yes to both.
#6181 [23:06] <roblog> i run minecraft on gentoo linux and ubuntu, but since mac OS X doesn't have drivers for my video card to enable quartz/GL i can't run minecraft on my OS X partition. (tri-boot system)
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#6183 [23:06] <Mathuin> Yay pymclevel is updated!
#6184 [23:07] <nineoh9> man the problem is odd, it seems my fps is actually spiking, not dropping. If I am reading the debug info correctly
#6185 [23:07] <nineoh9> (f3)
#6186 [23:07] <ajvpot> roblog, try javaw -Xmx800m -jar "C:\Minecraft.jar"
#6187 [23:07] <ajvpot> wherever the jar is
#6188 [23:07] <ajvpot> it might work
#6189 [23:07] <ajvpot> works for ly laptop
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#6191 [23:09] <roblog> does the -Xms/-Xmx argument reserve more memory for minecraft or something? I've never understood that arguement at all.
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#6193 [23:10] <banana> Hi :) I'm having truble with note blocks, any suggestions on what I should do? I cannot get a singe note out of them! I am using this design: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYFa_iEhMro&feature=related and I know the circuits are all as in the tutorial..?
#6194 [23:10] <roblog> i always just start it with 1024 ... but i've considered trying it with a higher number.
#6195 [23:10] <ajvpot> it makes it only use 800m
#6196 [23:10] <ajvpot> and lwgl does something wierd
#6197 [23:10] <ajvpot> and says "i dont have enough room for opengl"
#6198 [23:10] <ajvpot> so it does something else
#6199 [23:10] <ajvpot> its odd but it works
#6200 [23:11] <ajvpot> idk if the reasoning was correct
#6201 [23:12] <banana> pff
#6202 [23:12] <banana> Anyone?
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#6204 [23:13] <nevercast> theunleet, you're lagging
#6205 [23:13] <banana> Awh!
#6206 [23:14] <banana> Nodody?
#6207 [23:18] <nineoh9> banana
#6208 [23:18] <nineoh9> what are you doing?
#6209 [23:18] <banana> I figured it out
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#6212 [23:19] <nineoh9> oh yay
#6213 [23:19] <CoLoN> can you use a mapeditor on mp servers?
#6214 [23:19] <banana> I used the /i command to get the note blocks, and that made them flawed for some reason
#6215 [23:19] <nineoh9> :)
#6216 [23:19] <nineoh9> I just use one of the web based inventory editors
#6217 [23:19] <Mathuin> CoLoN: I cannot see why not, as long as the server is down while the map is being edited.
#6218 [23:21] <banana> hmm?
#6219 [23:21] <banana> Which one?
#6220 [23:22] <banana> I am very new to this plugin and server thingy... Dont use half of my stuff and I don't know the other half
#6221 [23:22] <banana> Superpickaxe, /i -1 and God is what I'm using
#6222 [23:23] <banana> hmm you play minecraft in browser?
#6223 [23:27] <AG_Scott> xales, who does VoxelHead belong to?
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#6225 [23:27] <xales> AG_Scott: dopeghoti
#6226 [23:27] <AG_Scott> We've been using bucket but I like this better.
#6227 [23:27] <AG_Scott> ah it's an eggdrop.
#6228 [23:28] <AG_Scott> i cba to configure one :<
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#6230 [23:28] <xales> eventually you could use
#6231 [23:28] <xales> https://github.com/xales/Wonton/tree/dev
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#6233 [23:29] <ops> hey, does this channel cover gameplay help?
#6234 [23:29] <xales> yes
#6235 [23:29] <ops> is there a trick to finding dungeons?
#6236 [23:29] <xales> nope
#6237 [23:30] <ops> or do i just have to dig randomly?
#6238 [23:30] <xales> just dig around
#6239 [23:30] <xales> you can use a mapping program to "cheat" and locate them on a map
#6240 [23:30] <ops> mm.
#6241 [23:30] <xales> if you want to do that
#6242 [23:30] <xales> there are guides on the forum for it
#6243 [23:30] <ops> do they show up more often near bedrock?
#6244 [23:30] <xales> nope
#6245 [23:31] <nineoh9> fred and barney show up near bedrock alot though
#6246 [23:32] <ops> 5 more years and people my age won't know what you're talking about XD
#6247 [23:32] <nineoh9> that makes me a sad panda
#6248 [23:34] <nineoh9> agricultural simulator 2011...
#6249 [23:34] <nineoh9> sounds so fun!
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#6251 [23:35] <Draglems1> Hi, i can't seem to install Texture packs.
#6252 [23:35] <Draglems1> Could anybody help me?
#6253 [23:37] <nineoh9> you didn't unzip them did you?
#6254 [23:37] <Draglems1> You don't need to.
#6255 [23:37] <nineoh9> right
#6256 [23:37] <Draglems1> It automatically picked up.
#6257 [23:37] <Draglems1> It was working before
#6258 [23:37] <nineoh9> maybe the update broke the texture pack?
#6259 [23:37] <Draglems1> the only way I can get it to work now is by using a HD texture pack manager.
#6260 [23:37] <Draglems1> I just got it working
#6261 [23:37] <Draglems1> then it broke.
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#6263 [23:38] <nineoh9> that sux
#6264 [23:38] <Elana-chan> hello
#6265 [23:38] <Draglems1> Ah, nevermind
#6266 [23:38] <Draglems1> it was bugged.
#6267 [23:38] <nineoh9> hi
#6268 [23:38] <xales> hi
#6269 [23:38] <nineoh9> buggered
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#6271 [23:38] <Draglems1> and..HUGE FREEZE.
#6272 [23:39] <Elana-chan> can anyone tell me if saplings can grow birch or redwoods? I always seem to get just regular trees
#6273 [23:39] <nineoh9> thats all they do
#6274 [23:39] <nineoh9> for now
#6275 [23:39] <NateBHere> Hello... I am wondering if anyone else is or has had my problem...
#6276 [23:39] <xales> NateBHere: which is?
#6277 [23:39] <Kealper> so like....
#6278 [23:39] <xales> Elana-chan: I don't believe the ydo
#6279 [23:39] <Elana-chan> gona preserve my redwoods then, I like the look :P
#6280 [23:39] <nineoh9> thats why I don't cut down the birch and redwoods
#6281 [23:39] <Kealper> my mic on my new headset...it awesome
#6282 [23:39] <NateBHere> It may be coincedence, but... Every since I made it to the bedrock in my game I have been having all kinds of problems.
#6283 [23:40] <Draglems1> omg
#6284 [23:40] <Draglems1> why is minecraft so laggy
#6285 [23:40] <Draglems1> its so crashy.
#6286 [23:40] <Draglems1> like.. 3fps type.
#6287 [23:40] <nineoh9> probably cuz it's made in java
#6288 [23:40] <nineoh9> :\
#6289 [23:40] <Draglems1> I'm at the damn main menU!!
#6290 [23:40] <xales> NateBHere: such as?
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#6292 [23:40] <octatone> hey
#6293 [23:41] <octatone> this new update keeps crashing my macbook
#6294 [23:41] <Draglems1> oh screw it
#6295 [23:41] <Draglems1> sleep time
#6296 [23:41] <Kealper> like srsly... http://kealper.com/b/mic.ogg <-- that's not too bad for a mic being held in front of my speakers lol
#6297 [23:41] <Elana-chan> any idea if they plan on bringing snowfall back?
#6298 [23:41] <octatone> anyone having java crash with this update?
#6299 [23:41] <NateBHere> Most noticably when I'm digging now latteraly the screen will go black(Music sound FX still playing) I kill the app, then restart and I am burried in somthing (stuck in wall or something) then die.
#6300 [23:41] <nineoh9> #elana I dunno
#6301 [23:42] <NateBHere> and I'll even loose some of my last save...
#6302 [23:43] <NateBHere> It crashed like ever 20 minutes lastnight...
#6303 [23:43] <sardo97> Bai
#6304 [23:43] <xales> NateBHere: any mods running?
#6305 [23:43] <nineoh9> @octaton: I haven't had java crash, but the game has been "glitchy"
#6306 [23:43] <octatone> yeah i don't have any mods or anything installed
#6307 [23:43] <octatone> osx snow leapord
#6308 [23:43] <nineoh9> I don't have a mac, so if it is osx related I'm of no use...
#6309 [23:43] <octatone> it freezes when I try to quit the application in multi player
#6310 [23:44] <octatone> it freezes the whole system
#6311 [23:44] <NateBHere> Nope... I did try to install some; they did not work, so I wiped the app and reinstalled. Well I think I wiped it I nuked all but my save files
#6312 [23:44] <nineoh9> how does single player work?
#6313 [23:44] <xales> nineoh9: in regard to?
#6314 [23:44] <nineoh9> oh I was talking to octatone
#6315 [23:44] <xales> oh
#6316 [23:44] <xales> lol
#6317 [23:44] <nineoh9> :P
#6318 [23:47] <NateBHere> It's not even a big world less than 5MB pre latest patch less tha 3MB post latest. I'm wondering if it has anythiung to do with bedrock, girlfriends world is gigantic but she hasn't gotten to bedrock yet.
#6319 [23:48] <xales> NateBHere: no, it's not normal..
#6320 [23:48] <xales> NateBHere: how much RAM does your computer have?
#6321 [23:50] <NateBHere> Vista/ 2GB RAM/ Dual Core 2.4GHz/ 350GB HDD/ 512MB RAM GeForce 8500 GT
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#6323 [23:52] <NateBHere> GF's compute is a bit newer but comprable specks the major difference is she's running Windows 7 64 bit My Vista is 32bit
#6324 [23:53] <nineoh9> that primarily affects how much ram the system can address
#6325 [23:53] <NateBHere> Should I run Vista in 64 bit?
#6326 [23:53] <nineoh9> not unless you get 4 or more gigs of ram
#6327 [23:54] <xales> NateBHere: try closing absolutely every other program on the computer
#6328 [23:54] <xales> including disabling antivirus, temporarily
#6329 [23:54] <xales> see if that fixes it
#6330 [23:54] <NateBHere> I think she's only got 2GB too... That I'd have to double check...
#6331 [23:55] <xales> try closing programs, you probably aren't using the same ones :)
#6332 [23:55] <xales> or, not exactly
#6333 [23:56] <Elana-chan> I think it would be cool if notch would add moon phases
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#6335 [23:57] <NateBHere> I can try that... I ran accross a post in a forum that mentioned something about the NVidia and ATI 3D rendering something regarding telling the VC controller to allow the application to determine how to render, The poster mentiond BlackScreen and crashing so that;'s how I noticed it. Any feedback on that one?
#6336 [23:57] <theunleet> sorry my junk froze
#6337 [23:57] <NateBHere> That would be cool Elana-chan...
#6338 [23:58] <xales> NateBHere: no idea what that post is talking about, but I can pretty much say it has nothing to do with your problem
#6339 [23:58] <Elana-chan> maybe have an increased mob spawn rate during the new and full moons, with the types of mobs varying by the phase of the moon
#6340 [23:58] <NateBHere> Maybe even eclipses... Have a few minutes of Zombie/Skelton daylight infestation here and there...
#6341 [23:58] <Elana-chan> a new moon basicly is an eclipse
#6342 [23:59] <NateBHere> Solar Eclipse... It's day then all of the sudden it's night for a few minutes...
#6343 [23:59] <NateBHere> then back to day...