#1 [00:00] <Elana-chan> should have an animation for it, and you'd need to be able to see the moon during the daytime
#2 [00:00] <NateBHere> That would be cool, look up and suddenly notice the moons taking over the sun. talk about an "Oh Shit Moment..." LOL
#3 [00:02] <Elana-chan> does using the bed prevent tree growth at night?
#4 [00:02] <nineoh9> haha
#5 [00:02] <nineoh9> !
#6 [00:06] <NateBHere> Thanks @xales... I will look at reducing the applications running on my machine when playing and see if that has anything to do with it. I want to build a new system any how Maybe this is a good excuse besides this ones old... LOL Goodnight for now all May you be blessed with too much diamonds and redstone.
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#9 [00:10] <mrtoast> hey
#10 [00:10] <nineoh9> it's a simple question, would you eat the moon if it were made of spare ribs
#11 [00:11] <xales> hi
#12 [00:11] <Elana-chan> everyone knows the moon is made out of cheese!
#13 [00:15] <aetherian> true true
#14 [00:17] <nineoh9> :P
#15 [00:19] <RF> I wouldn't
#16 [00:19] <RF> It'll have gone bad by now, it's been up there for MONTHS
#17 [00:19] <RF> Possibly longer
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#19 [00:20] <RF> But don't quote me on that
#20 [00:20] <theliea> minecraft VPS service traffic hard what ?
#21 [00:21] <theliea> um.... minecraft VPS traffic
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#24 [00:26] <Ket> Anyone else getting a 503 error trying to Log out on the site?
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#30 [00:52] <lemon-rev> ok are slimes good or evil ?
#31 [00:57] <Kealper> both
#32 [00:57] <Kealper> big ones hate your guts, little ones love you
#33 [00:57] <lemon-rev> hahahah
#34 [00:57] <lemon-rev> well a little one took 1 heart but bobs around me, then trys pusshing me so i guess bad in that respect, i havent seen large ones yet
#35 [00:59] <relsqui> under the new update, sometimes big slimes will split into small slimes on your client but not on the server
#36 [00:59] <relsqui> so you can't affect them, hit them, etc.
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#38 [00:59] <relsqui> the bugged slimes will disappear when you reconnect
#39 [01:00] <lemon-rev> well apparently they only split with like swords and stuff so hm, not sure just was reading the wiki about it
#40 [01:00] <relsqui> I've had them do that both with a bow and with a diamond sword
#41 [01:00] <relsqui> last I checked, the wiki hadn't been updated for 1.3
#42 [01:01] <lemon-rev> well the beds in there so is the repeter
#43 [01:01] <lemon-rev> but not sure
#44 [01:03] <relsqui> sorry, I meant the slime page specifically
#45 [01:04] <lemon-rev> oh i see, np :) all good
#46 [01:04] <relsqui> ah--someone's added the bug I just mentioned
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#48 [01:05] <theliea> I wants to buy minecraft gift code for cheap.....
#49 [01:05] <theliea> ebay , key shop url please.
#50 [01:06] <Mathuin> There's no resale market for Minecraft gift codes, I don't think -- and I'm pretty convinced there's no way to get them cheaper than the source.
#51 [01:08] <theliea> ebay minecraft gife code price 9.99$ , 12$ but i don't buy many gift code.
#52 [01:08] <Kealper> we don't...deal with the resale of gift codes in this channel....
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#54 [01:09] <theliea> oh.. thanks
#55 [01:09] <Kealper> you might have better luck with that in #minecraft or #mcchatter
#56 [01:10] <theliea> devoice #minecraft ..
#57 [01:10] <Kealper> you have to register with NickServ to talk in #minecraft
#58 [01:10] <theliea> ok
#59 [01:10] <Kealper> only takes a few seconds to do
#60 [01:17] <Mathuin> ... someone has come up with a vegetarian "pork rind" equivalent?!
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#62 [01:20] <Mathuin> One thing I've noticed about Minecraft crafting is that there are very few catalysts, or objects required to make other objects but which are not consumed by said objects. It's pretty much limited to furnaces and workbenches.
#63 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> dyes
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#67 [01:25] <Mathuin> Aren't dyes consumed in the productino of colored wool?
#68 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Oh, wait, I read your statement wrong
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#70 [01:27] <Fear> It's quite possible the crafting system is only coded to be 2-9 items in, 1 item out
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#73 [01:28] <relsqui> oh god it's so fun watching someone in chat who's totally new to this game
#74 [01:29] <relsqui> "whoa cool a natural cave!"
#75 [01:29] <relsqui> "yup! careful in there, there can be mobs"
#76 [01:29] <relsqui> "kay"
#77 [01:29] <relsqui> (pause)
#78 [01:29] <relsqui> "HOLY SHIT SOMETHING EXPLODED WTF JUST HAPPENED"
#79 [01:30] * Elana-chan has mastered the art of fighting creepers with bare hands in single player
#79 [01:30] <Fear> I rarely have problems with creepers that I see coming
#80 [01:30] <Mathuin> Hahahaha.
#81 [01:32] <Fear> I really wish they burned in light
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#84 [01:35] <Elana-chan> if they ever make achivements for the game there shold be one for witnissing a tree grow at a fairly close range
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#86 [01:47] <aetherian> !ping
#87 [01:47] <ChaosKiller> Pong!
#88 [01:47] <aetherian> .-.
#89 [01:47] <Kealper> botter!
#90 [01:47] <aetherian> great, now there're two !ping bots
#91 [01:47] <Kealper> !ping
#92 [01:47] <ChaosKiller> Pong!
#93 [01:47] <GreyBot> Kealper Your Ping time was 6.289 seconds.
#94 [01:47] <aetherian> lol
#95 [01:47] <aetherian> I accidentally my client...
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#98 [01:47] <aetherian> it doesn't send back pi- oh lmao. auto.
#99 [01:47] * Kealper kicked ChaosKiller from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: and turn off the auto rejoin)
#100 [01:48] <aetherian> aurgh
#101 [01:48] <Kealper> that should remove itself in 5 min
#102 [01:48] <aetherian> windows >:
#103 [01:48] <aetherian> the hell I don't have admin.
#104 [01:48] <aetherian> I have the bloody admin!
#105 [01:48] <nevercast> Hey Kealper :)
#106 [01:48] <nevercast> Kealper, you should join my server
#107 [01:48] <Kealper> ello
#108 [01:48] <nevercast> aetherian, JOIN MY SERVER :D
#109 [01:49] <aetherian> NOT NOW
#110 [01:49] <Kealper> i'm looking at grey's epic door right now
#111 [01:49] <nevercast> It's got a big castle..
#112 [01:49] <aetherian> grey had an epic door?
#113 [01:49] <aetherian> what's his ingame name?
#114 [01:50] <Kealper> take a wild guess....lol
#115 [01:50] <aetherian> I feel like my computer is working up to a GPF
#116 [01:50] <aetherian> it's not supposed to be slow running pchat and firefox, dammit
#117 [01:51] <aetherian> I would think 4GB ram and a nice quad core processor would handle this >.>
#118 [01:51] <aetherian> but alas
#119 [01:51] <Elana-chan> I have 3.25 usable and a dual core and I can run MC without issue :P
#120 [01:52] <aetherian> why the.. what is this... I don't... wait what
#121 [01:52] <aetherian> why do I have 1734 MB RAM on standby o.o
#122 [01:53] <Kealper> cool....knockouts work
#123 [01:53] <aetherian> KO
#124 [01:53] <aetherian> 1...2...3...
#125 [01:53] <Mathuin> I need a nicer quad core.
#126 [01:53] <aetherian> 1...1...2...3...5...8...
#127 [01:53] * Mathuin smacks aetherian with a Fibonacci trout.
#127 [01:54] <aetherian> I have some intel i7
#128 [01:54] <aetherian> thing
#129 [01:54] <Elana-chan> news flash, i7 is the current line
#130 [01:54] <aetherian> I swear, downloading files uses more resources than it should
#131 [01:54] <Mathuin> aetherian: that's what I'm looking for. a buddy of mine claims he can build me a great box for a thousand bucks, but I just don't have it right now. :-(
#132 [01:55] <aetherian> pfft
#133 [01:55] <aetherian> you can build a nice box for <500
#134 [01:55] <aetherian> not the best, though
#135 [01:55] <Mathuin> Soon enough.
#136 [01:55] <aetherian> ack, I gots to be an arby.
#137 [01:55] <aetherian> (brb)
#138 [01:58] <aetherian> so...
#139 [01:58] <aetherian> who here uses BSD?
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#141 [01:59] <aetherian> heya Kimax
#142 [01:59] <Mathuin> aetherian: I used to run FreeBSD for about a decade.
#143 [01:59] <aetherian> izzit any good?
#144 [01:59] <Kimax> aetherian do i know you?
#145 [01:59] <aetherian> yes
#146 [01:59] <aetherian> remember?
#147 [01:59] <Mathuin> I liked it better than Linux for a long time, then Linux caught up and became usable.
#148 [01:59] <aetherian> from that server?
#149 [02:00] <Mathuin> At least for me.
#150 [02:00] <aetherian> heh
#151 [02:00] <Kimax> i cant remember
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#153 [02:00] <aetherian> once windows crashes on this computer, even once, I'll start doing more than just experimenting in linux. until then...
#154 [02:01] <relsqui> ha
#155 [02:01] <Kimax> but im planning on starting my own survival server, and im seeking serius people... maybe your in on that aetherian
#156 [02:01] <aetherian> ow ow ow
#157 [02:01] <aetherian> I must read english whilst tired, man.
#158 [02:01] * relsqui grins
#158 [02:02] <aetherian> uhh
#159 [02:02] <aetherian> did I just use whilst and the slang "man" in the same sentence?
#160 [02:02] <relsqui> haha
#161 [02:02] <aetherian> oh my...
#162 [02:03] <aetherian> good morrow, daw-
#163 [02:04] <aetherian> I swear, on various servers>channels, being opped means nothing to me.
#164 [02:04] <aetherian> I always DC in a couple minutes anyway
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#166 [02:16] <nevercast> [INFO] CONSOLE: Giving NeverCast some 69
#167 [02:16] <nevercast> WOO
#168 [02:17] <aetherian> eh
#169 [02:17] <aetherian> /give aetherian 46 64
#170 [02:17] <aetherian> it's party time >LD
#171 [02:18] <aetherian> *>:D
#172 [02:18] <nevercast> Put that TNT down :D
#173 [02:18] <nevercast> ... so I can have it :D
#174 [02:18] <aetherian> nowai
#175 [02:23] * relsqui snickers
#175 [02:23] <relsqui> I wonder what "serious" people means in the context of a multi server
#176 [02:28] <nevercast> lol.
#177 [02:30] <relsqui> well, yes, lol, but I'm also actually curious what that person meant :)
#178 [02:31] <nevercast> Serious gamers or serious, no humour?
#179 [02:31] <nevercast> I think it can either mean, Enthusiastic, or mediore.. if that helps?
#180 [02:31] * Kealper golf claps
#180 [02:32] <nevercast> Hey! Cut that out :P
#181 [02:33] <relsqui> heh
#182 [02:33] <relsqui> I guess I would expect either "serious, will spend lots of time in the game and finish big cool projects" or "serious, hardcore pvper"
#183 [02:33] <relsqui> one of those I am, one of those I ain't
#184 [02:34] <relsqui> by the way, how's the auth server been today? I've only tried connecting a couple times, once quite early and once quite late, and both worked
#185 [02:34] <nevercast> relsqui, It's been pretty stable all day
#186 [02:34] <relsqui> cool.
#187 [02:34] <nevercast> think mollstam fixed that database pool
#188 [02:35] <relsqui> awesome.
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#190 [02:39] <nevercast> relsqui, Come to my server, climb into my castle. and help me shoot flaming arrows at creepers :D
#191 [02:39] <nevercast> It's lots of button pushing :D
#192 [02:39] <relsqui> XD
#193 [02:39] <relsqui> if I were playing right now I'd be on my own server, but I'm writing a cover letter :)
#194 [02:40] <nevercast> oh.. okay :(
#195 [02:40] <nevercast> well you should come to my server :D
#196 [02:40] <relsqui> no! I'm writing a cover letter! :P
#197 [02:41] <nevercast> cover letter... who'd you kill?
#198 [02:42] <relsqui> sorry?
#199 [02:45] <nevercast> yeah wasn't that funny
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#204 [03:03] <aetherian> night
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#210 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, a 5 minute little redstone project on a server just turned into a couple hours, and counting
#211 [03:22] * GreyVulpine kicks Kealper
#211 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Thanks Kealper
#212 [03:24] <nevercast> lol.
#213 [03:24] <nevercast> I has a good Minecraft server
#214 [03:24] <nevercast> but no one to play on it :(
#215 [03:24] <nevercast> But I built a castle :D
#216 [03:25] <Kealper> ow many slots is it?
#217 [03:26] <Kealper> how*
#218 [03:28] <feenyx> hm, is there a default slot limit? I notice mine is set to 20 players
#219 [03:28] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper - I got a little project
#219 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> Pressure plates inside, so if somebody uses a redstone torch to open the door, they trigger a little.. surprise at the end of the hallway
#220 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> The painting, on top of opening the door, makes the pressure plates 'safe'
#221 [03:30] <feenyx> Can haz boobytrap :D
#222 [03:30] * GreyVulpine so wants to try out this 2-clock on dispensers
#222 [03:30] <feenyx> and it's just as convoluted and cryptic as text-based adventures
#223 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> mmmhmmm
#224 [03:30] <Kealper> that would be epic lol
#225 [03:31] <feenyx> or if you ever played Shadowgate on the NES
#226 [03:31] * GreyVulpine hmms and needs an RS latch.
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#233 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> Damn RS latches.
#234 [03:56] * GreyVulpine shakes fist.
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#236 [04:08] <Mathuin> Do the new diodes help with making multivibrators?
#237 [04:08] <Mathuin> (flipflops?)
#238 [04:09] <BarryCarlyon> Mathuin: try it and see :-D
#239 [04:10] <Mathuin> Not my idea of fun. :-)
#240 [04:10] <BarryCarlyon> I remember reading something about using them as memory. But no eample yet. on the wiki.
#241 [04:10] <Mathuin> I'm way more into map generation.
#242 [04:11] <BarryCarlyon> Then why you asking about filp flops then :-D
#243 [04:11] <Mathuin> Because of GreyVulpine's comment of 'Damn RS latches' of about twenty minutes back.
#244 [04:13] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
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#246 [04:13] <BarryCarlyon> The idea with diodes is that they can replace circuits so I imagine so :-D
#247 [04:14] <Mathuin> Well, sure. You can make a transistor of sorts.
#248 [04:14] <Mathuin> And really, all a 4004 is is a bunch of transistors.
#249 [04:14] <BarryCarlyon> All anything is is a bunch of trannys.
#250 [04:15] <Mathuin> 2300 of them.
#251 [04:15] <Mathuin> Weeeeeelll, not really. Memory's more than that, as is some other stuff, but the CPU and other logic that's different.
#252 [04:16] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#253 [04:16] <BarryCarlyon> Broad terms and all that
#254 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Success! RS latch works!
#255 [04:16] * GreyVulpine dances
#255 [04:17] <Mathuin> And there was much rejoicing.
#256 [04:17] <Mathuin> Do you have a real reason to have one, or is this just Because You Can?
#257 [04:17] <BarryCarlyon> GreyVulpine: is the lord, he can post much on the wiki now :-D
#258 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> No, I've got a nice little setup going, pressure plates trigger a little "Surprise" for uninvited guests.
#259 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> Only way to make the pressure plates "safe" is to trigger a little rube goldburg device
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#262 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> [04:18.47am] <@GreyVulpine> No, I've got a nice little setup going, pressure plates trigger a little "Surprise" for uninvited guests.
#263 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> [04:19.06am] <@GreyVulpine> Only way to make the pressure plates "safe" is to trigger a little rube goldburg device
#264 [04:21] <BarryCarlyon> Woot.
#265 [04:21] <BarryCarlyon> Right to work.
#266 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> Basically, I've got a set of iron doors. You need to do something special to open it.
#267 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> Well, if people bypass the iron doors with a redstone torch, that "something special" wasn't used.. and thus...
#268 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> When they go down the corridor, they'll trigger some pressure plates. Which are now "hot" because they though they were smart
#269 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> Triggering some hot dispensers at the end.
#270 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> Looking into some 2-clock pulsars right now
#271 [04:25] <BarryCarlyon> Nice
#272 [04:28] <Mathuin> I wonder if dispensers can throw lava.
#273 [04:28] <Mathuin> Or water.
#274 [04:29] <relsqui> I would expect them to just throw the bucket-full-of-fluid item
#275 [04:29] <Mathuin> So you'd get pegged by a bucket.
#276 [04:30] <relsqui> well, more that you'd pick one up, I think
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#279 [11:49] <jok13> anyone, pls: how i and my friend can play together?
#280 [11:49] <Jethuty> no?
#281 [11:49] <xales> jok13: find a server and play together
#282 [11:49] <SuperDuck> My brother and I play on an off-line server that I run on my computer, but ever since 1.3 it doesn't register our names. It wasn't a problem at first, but now when we try to log-on the other gets kicked, saying "You have logged in from a different location". Any ideas?
#283 [11:49] <xales> Jethuty: where did you get the driver from?
#284 [11:49] <xales> SuperDuck: Are you using "play offline" in the client?
#285 [11:50] <SuperDuck> Yar.
#286 [11:50] <xales> kiran: still the same error?
#287 [11:50] <jok13> I meant just the two
#288 [11:50] <SuperDuck> The thing is, it litterally didn't do it yesterday.
#289 [11:51] <xales> SuperDuck: Why not just sign in with the client?
#290 [11:51] <SuperDuck> @Jok: Google off-line server for minecraft. There's a couple youtube videos that'll teach you what you need to know, at least.
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#292 [11:51] <SuperDuck> 'Cause we don't have internet at home.
#293 [11:51] <kiran> I think i just fixed it xales, I tried running it from the console, but i just had to run it from my windowmanager ;-) still, thank you for the advice
#294 [11:51] <xales> kiran: that's strange.. O_o
#295 [11:52] <xales> SuperDuck: it will always give you the name "Player" if you aren't signed in
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#297 [11:52] <jok13> if you give me the link, I'll be very thanks ;)
#298 [11:52] <kiran> Strange indeed, but it did the trick, i'm logging in to MC now ;-)
#299 [11:52] <xales> ...or it should
#300 [11:52] <Jet> Hey back again
#301 [11:52] <xales> jok13: pick a server and play on it. http://mcserverlist.net/
#302 [11:52] <Jet> my mIRC just died
#303 [11:53] <kiran> Jet, Sometimes I think mIRC is already dead for years :D
#304 [11:53] <SuperDuck> See, it wasn't doing that before. Until 1.3 it was showing us with our names above our heads, and after the update, nothing.
#305 [11:53] <Jet> lol
#306 [11:53] <Jet> but died anyone have an answer for my problem? :)
#307 [11:53] <Jet> did*
#308 [11:53] <SuperDuck> Didn't matter at first, but we tried today, and it keeps booting us.
#309 [11:54] <xales> SuperDuck: how did you update it? just using the launcher?
#310 [11:54] <SuperDuck> Yar. Took my laptop to the local library for the update.
#311 [11:54] <jok13> I understand just join each other can not?
#312 [11:55] <xales> jok13: you must both play on the same server
#313 [11:56] <xales> SuperDuck: you could use some sort of mod on the server for renaming people or something similar - I believe they are out there
#314 [11:56] <jok13> ok, thx(
#315 [11:56] <SuperDuck> Any idea what I should Google/look for?
#316 [11:56] <xales> SuperDuck: you could look on the Bukkit forum
#317 [11:56] <xales> or ask in #bukkit
#318 [11:56] <SuperDuck> Alright. I'll take a look around.
#319 [11:57] <SuperDuck> Thanks.
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#321 [11:57] <Jet1> I dunno what happend lol
#322 [11:57] <xales> could try a better client :)
#323 [11:57] <Jet1> it just closed IRC and told me that my nick is already in use
#324 [11:58] <Jet1> But did anyone have a solution to my minecraft problem? :)
#325 [11:58] <xales> what was the problem again?
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#327 [11:58] <Jet1> this
#328 [11:59] <Jet1> Bad video card drivers!
#329 [11:59] <Jet1> -----------------------
#330 [11:59] <Jet1> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#331 [11:59] <Jet1> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#332 [11:59] <Jet1> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 --------
#333 [11:59] <xales> <.<
#334 [11:59] <Jet1> at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsDisplay.createWindow(WindowsDisplay.java:185)
#335 [11:59] <Jet1> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.createWindow(Display.java:311)
#336 [11:59] <Jet1> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create(Display.java:856)
#337 [11:59] <Jet1> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create(Display.java:784)
#338 [11:59] <xales> the bot doesn't like pasting
#339 [11:59] <xales> ?? irc/flood
#340 [11:59] <VoxelHead> irc/flood: Please don't flood the channel; don't use the Enter key as a comma. If you have a lot to say, it's a lot easier for everyone to read if you contain it all on one line, and it makes the channel easier to follow. Thanks.
#341 [11:59] <xales> actually
#342 [11:59] <Jet1> oh god
#343 [11:59] <xales> ?? pastebin
#344 [11:59] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#345 [11:59] <xales> was the one
#346 [11:59] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#347 [12:00] <Jet1> http://pastebin.com/K0BD9pbF
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#349 [12:00] <xales> Jet1: where did you get the driver from?
#350 [12:01] <Jet1> my driver?
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#352 [12:01] <Jet1> amd
#353 [12:01] <Jet1> amd.com
#354 [12:02] <L1nk> Hey people
#355 [12:02] <dopeghoti> Hey, person.
#356 [12:02] <L1nk> :D, i have come here for help
#357 [12:02] * xolotl hugs the availability of the "time" command on vanilla servers
#357 [12:03] <L1nk> :\
#358 [12:03] * xolotl wonders if that's new in 1.3 or if I missed it from a previous update
#358 [12:03] <dopeghoti> ??> L1nk ask
#359 [12:03] <VoxelHead> L1nk: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#360 [12:03] <VoxelHead> L1nk: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#361 [12:03] <dopeghoti> xolotl: I just tried 'time' on my console; no such command.
#362 [12:03] <L1nk> Basicly I keep geting the "black screen of death"
#363 [12:03] <Jet1> This driver problem is driving me nuts
#364 [12:04] <L1nk> and ive followed almost eveypost ive see
#365 [12:04] <dopeghoti> L1nk: Windows OS I presume?
#366 [12:04] <xales> Jet1: are you sure it's the correct one? =/
#367 [12:04] <xales> Jet1: you could try getting it from the computer manufactrer too I guess
#368 [12:04] <L1nk> yeah windows 7 64x
#369 [12:04] <dopeghoti> L1nk: do you have the 64-bit Java installed?
#370 [12:04] <L1nk> yep
#371 [12:04] <xolotl> dopeghoti: It's there - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_commands
#372 [12:04] <Jet1> erm i could try, i think i have already done it
#373 [12:05] <dopeghoti> xolotl: ah, it's a setter, not a querier
#374 [12:05] <L1nk> Got the java and tryed the iexplore update and the thing with runing it as a bat
#375 [12:05] <Jet1> but ati= amd
#376 [12:06] <xales> Jet1: I mean, the computer manufacturer
#377 [12:06] <xales> like, if it's a Dell, then from Dell
#378 [12:06] <L1nk> brb gonna try something
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#380 [12:07] <Jethuty> did that aswell
#381 [12:07] <xales> =/
#382 [12:08] <xales> you could try this
#383 [12:08] <xales> ?? win/dxdiag
#384 [12:08] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#385 [12:08] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#387 [12:09] <Jethuty> me?
#388 [12:09] <xales> yeah
#389 [12:09] <Jethuty> kk
#390 [12:11] <Jethuty> done
#391 [12:11] <xales> paste the link to it here
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#393 [12:12] <Jethuty> http://pastebin.com/gWWrYRYK
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#395 [12:13] <xales> hmm
#396 [12:13] <xales> the driver does look a bit out of date
#397 [12:13] <xales> I guess try installing it again? =/
#398 [12:14] <Jethuty> trying
#399 [12:14] <fogWraith> The driver smells of microsoft?
#400 [12:14] <Jethuty> getting one from dell and one from amd
#401 [12:14] <xales> you can't install drivers over each other
#402 [12:14] <fogWraith> Cancel the one from Dell, unless it's a laptop :P
#403 [12:14] <xales> get the one from amd, install that, then try
#404 [12:15] <xales> fogWraith: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670 (Microsoft Corporation WDDM 1.1)
#405 [12:15] <fogWraith> Mobility is cancer
#406 [12:15] <fogWraith> I can't see it
#407 [12:15] <fogWraith> Neither do I have any recollection of ever typing Mobility
#408 [12:15] <Jethuty> its a laptop
#409 [12:15] * fogWraith nods
#409 [12:15] <Jethuty> tried the one from amd
#410 [12:16] <Jethuty> didnt work
#411 [12:16] <xales> try the Dell one I guess
#412 [12:16] <fogWraith> Ohoho, Rift is almost done installing
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#414 [12:18] <Jethuty> but if that doesnt work?
#415 [12:18] <xales> it's a bit extreme, but you could try it under Linux, other than that, not much else to do
#416 [12:19] <Jethuty> linux is waaay too extreme
#417 [12:19] <Jethuty> it just doesnt make sense that i cant play minecraft on a 2010 laptop
#418 [12:19] <xales> that card should be able to play it, I'm not sure why it isn't wokring
#419 [12:20] <Jethuty> yeah its fucked up
#420 [12:20] <Jethuty> tried updating EVERYTHING
#421 [12:20] <Jethuty> still didnt work
#422 [12:20] <xales> try the Dell driver
#423 [12:22] <Jethuty> tried that aswell
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#425 [12:23] <xales> try it again, right now? =/
#426 [12:23] <L1nk> back, i dident fix it7
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#428 [12:24] <Kyll> Hi
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#430 [12:24] <L1nk> hey Kyll
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#432 [12:25] <Kyll> Let's go: When I connect to a server, my computer totally crash after a few minutes.
#433 [12:26] <Kyll> => Blue screen and strange noises
#434 [12:26] <Kyll> Anybody gots an idea?
#435 [12:27] <xales> Kyll: did you try the thing with the fan?
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#437 [12:28] <Kyll> Xales: Yes
#438 [12:28] <Kyll> Cool
#439 [12:28] <Kyll> No heat
#440 [12:28] <xales> hmm
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#442 [12:28] <Kyll> Java?
#443 [12:29] <xales> it sounds like something is broken physically =/
#444 [12:29] <Kyll> It happens only with Minecraft =/
#445 [12:29] <L1nk> yeah, do you have too meny things open?
#446 [12:29] <Kyll> Only Minecraft and, eventually, Firefox and Skype
#447 [12:30] <Kyll> Perhaps... Dust?
#448 [12:30] <xales> it's possible..
#449 [12:30] <L1nk> yep
#450 [12:30] <Kyll> No, there is no heat...
#451 [12:30] <xales> one of the components could be getting hot but not the exhaust
#452 [12:30] <Kyll> If it was because of the dust, the alimentation would be exploding Oo
#453 [12:30] <L1nk> its worth a try?
#454 [12:30] <Kyll> Graphic card?
#455 [12:31] <xales> yeah, likely the graphics card
#456 [12:31] <Kyll> ATI Radeon 4890
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#458 [12:31] <Kyll> Isn't that a powerful card?
#459 [12:31] <xales> yeah, but it could be overheating is what I mean
#460 [12:31] <xales> more powerful cards generate more heat
#461 [12:32] <Kyll> Perhaps my CPU? It's quite old
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#463 [12:32] <L1nk> if thats the only thing open the cpu should be able to take it
#464 [12:32] <xales> it's probably not the components not being able to handle it - it's more likely they are overheating or physically broken
#465 [12:32] <L1nk> have u tryed anything graphiclu straining
#466 [12:33] <L1nk> graphicly*
#467 [12:33] <Kyll> No =/
#468 [12:33] <Kyll> I didn't think that Minecraft could overheat my graphic card Oo
#469 [12:33] <xales> ?? retro
#470 [12:33] <VoxelHead> retro: Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#471 [12:33] <VoxelHead> retro: Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#472 [12:34] <Kyll> Why?
#473 [12:34] <xales> Why what?
#474 [12:34] <Kyll> Why so much power to run it?
#475 [12:34] <xales> It's written and Java and frankly...Java sucks
#476 [12:34] <xales> so, it needs more resources than it should
#477 [12:35] <Kyll> Graphics aren't the most beautiful I've seen...
#478 [12:35] <xales> the style is retro, but the texture isn't what causes most of it
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#481 [12:35] <xales> it's things like shading, culling, and other things that aren't noticable to the end user
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#483 [12:36] <Kyll> I see
#484 [12:36] <Kyll> So I have to clean my computer...
#485 [12:36] <xales> well, you could try that
#486 [12:36] <xales> but it's also possible that something is just broken =/
#487 [12:37] <L1nk> the more you try the more you can rule out
#488 [12:37] <L1nk> so give it a clean first
#489 [12:38] <Kyll> Xales: If something is broken, Why is there just Minecraft crashing?
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#491 [12:38] <xales> Kyll: As you said, nothing else is pushing the system very hard :)
#492 [12:38] <dopeghoti> Because Minecraft is the new burn-in test for modern hardware?
#493 [12:38] <L1nk> u did admit youve not tryed anything graphicly straining
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#495 [12:39] <Kyll> Let's clean
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#497 [12:40] <L1nk> my problem: I log in and it comes up with the download screen and then switches off, got latest java and latest drivers, im runing on a new windows pro 64x
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#499 [12:40] <L1nk> and its defo 64x java
#500 [12:40] <xales> L1nk: have you tried deleting the 'bin' directory?
#501 [12:40] <Kealper> ok i think i'ved caused enough rukus in #minecraft for now
#502 [12:40] <L1nk> yeah i have :D
#503 [12:41] <xales> "switches off"?
#504 [12:41] <Kyll> I come back later...
#505 [12:42] <L1nk> log in then screen disapears, and if i log in on iexplore then its just a black screen after login
#506 [12:42] <xales> updated graphics card drivers?
#507 [12:42] <L1nk> done
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#509 [12:43] <L1nk> still no luck
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#511 [12:44] <xales> any antivirus running?
#512 [12:44] <L1nk> macafee
#513 [12:44] <xales> ah, that could very well be the problem
#514 [12:44] <xales> try disabling that
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#516 [12:45] <dopeghoti> ??> L1nk win/profile
#517 [12:45] <VoxelHead> L1nk: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#518 [12:45] <VoxelHead> L1nk: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#519 [12:45] <L1nk> admin
#520 [12:46] <dopeghoti> No one here by that name.
#521 [12:46] <L1nk> xD
#522 [12:47] <L1nk> if it helps its a brand new laptop
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#527 [12:53] <L1nkJD> L1nk here, tryed deleting bin and failed xD
#528 [12:53] <L1nkJD> i mean deleting it and restarting
#529 [12:54] <dopeghoti> L1nkJD: did you try creating a new Windows user yet?
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#532 [12:55] <L1nkJD> 1 seconf
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#534 [12:58] <L1nkJD> back, it downloads the files then dose the same, just turns off
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#536 [13:00] <L1nkJD> so just the same
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#539 [13:01] <Sooi11> Heyz
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#541 [13:01] <L1nkJD> hey Sooi11
#542 [13:01] <Sooi11> Does anyone know how to set up a server?
#543 [13:01] <saschagehlich> hey folks... how can I update the "world/region/" folder on a multiplayer server? I need that to update my "google map" like every 5 minutes
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#545 [13:01] <saschagehlich> Sooi11: I guess we all know ;)
#546 [13:02] <saschagehlich> (or at least most of us)
#547 [13:02] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: every 5 minutes?!
#548 [13:02] <AndersBrohus> Hi :) how can it be i have no sound on my minecraft ? my PC its a HP Pavilion Elite HPE 030sc ?
#549 [13:02] <Sooi11> Well if i make one i can go one but other people cant
#550 [13:02] <saschagehlich> dopeghoti: sure, why not?
#551 [13:02] <Kealper> saschagehlich: because it will probably take more than 5 minutes to generate the image
#552 [13:02] <saschagehlich> Sooi11: do you run that locally?
#553 [13:02] <Sooi11> ?
#554 [13:02] <saschagehlich> Kealper: well no, it just takes a minute or so
#555 [13:03] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: let's say that all that's changed has been one block. That means re-rendering all tiles at all zoom levels that include that chunk
#556 [13:03] <saschagehlich> Kealper: it uses a cache and only updates chunks that have been updated
#557 [13:03] <Kealper> not to mention, that's a lot of unnecessary hdd activity that could lag your server
#558 [13:03] <Sooi11> What you mean by running it locally?
#559 [13:03] <TheTolpan> hey i bought minecraft now a second time and then i was linked to a website from secure 5 is that normal?
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#561 [13:03] <saschagehlich> Sooi11: did you install a server on your computer or on a server?
#562 [13:03] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: if you have people scattered all over the place doing stuff, it'll take quite some time to handle the updates.
#563 [13:03] <Kealper> TheTolpan: what is the URL of that website?
#564 [13:04] <saschagehlich> dopeghoti: well for now it works fine... got a high end server here, shouldn't be a problem
#565 [13:04] <Sooi11> I just made the server nothing more... :/
#566 [13:04] <saschagehlich> dopeghoti: an alternatie would be to load the world files to another server and render the map over there
#567 [13:04] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: Also, I'm not sure if Overviewer has been updated for the new map format yet
#568 [13:04] <saschagehlich> dopeghoti: there's a fork which works fine
#569 [13:04] <TheTolpan> the full url?
#570 [13:05] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: here's hoping it merges soon. (:
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#572 [13:05] <L1nkJD> Dopehoi: another user accout dident work
#573 [13:05] <L1nkJD> dopeghoti*
#574 [13:05] <saschagehlich> well back to my question - how do I recreate the region files? looks like /save-all does not update them
#575 [13:05] <dopeghoti> L1nkJD: Hrm.
#576 [13:06] <saschagehlich> but as soon as I shut down the server it rewrites them
#577 [13:06] * Kealper looks....sees the mapper he uses has test builds of the new region format out for download
#577 [13:06] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: it should- that's what the samefile _is_ now.
#578 [13:06] <AndersBrohus> Any help ?
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#580 [13:06] <dopeghoti> saschagehlich: ls -lrt, join the server, place a block, save-all, and ls -lrt again. you should see at least one file with a newer timestamp
#581 [13:07] <Sooi11> Can someone please tell me how to make a public server?
#582 [13:07] <clee-saan> hi, my minecraft is crashing randomly every ten minutes or so, i'm on seven and i also tried it on xp compatibility settings. Anyone has an idea of what's causing this and how i can fix it ?
#583 [13:07] <saschagehlich> well you're right, damn... but overviewer does not update the tiles :/
#584 [13:07] <TheTolpan> kealper u get my pm?
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#586 [13:07] <Kealper> indeed
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#588 [13:07] <dopeghoti> clee-saan: how much RAM has your computer got?
#589 [13:07] <clee-saan> 4gb
#590 [13:07] <dopeghoti> AndersBrohus: have you checked your volume mixer settings to be sure Minecraft isn't muted?
#591 [13:08] <dopeghoti> clee-saan: when it crashes, any error messages?
#592 [13:08] <clee-saan> no the screen just goes black
#593 [13:08] <L1nkJD> oh, ive got some error messages if someone wants to help me
#594 [13:08] <dopeghoti> L1nkJD: pastebin 'em please.
#595 [13:08] <feenyx> sometimes I'm freakin retarded. Tonight is one of these times. I'm going to go flog myself with a cat-'o-nine-tails now
#596 [13:08] <AndersBrohus> @Dopeghoti its not muted and there is no error but i got many hs_err_pid files
#597 [13:08] <dopeghoti> ??> clee-saan win/reinst
#598 [13:08] <VoxelHead> clee-saan: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#599 [13:09] <VoxelHead> clee-saan: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#600 [13:09] <dopeghoti> AndersBrohus: pastebin one of those files please.
#601 [13:09] <AndersBrohus> okay i will
#602 [13:09] <AndersBrohus> #
#603 [13:09] <AndersBrohus> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#604 [13:09] <AndersBrohus> #
#605 [13:09] <AndersBrohus> # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x5a8a2d24, pid=5812, tid=4188
#606 [13:09] <AndersBrohus> #
#607 [13:09] <L1nkJD> pastebin?
#608 [13:10] <clee-saan> Thanks VoxelHead, i'll try that
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#610 [13:10] <AndersBrohus> Hi
#611 [13:10] <dopeghoti> ??> L1nkJD pastebin
#612 [13:10] <VoxelHead> L1nkJD: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#613 [13:10] <VoxelHead> L1nkJD: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#614 [13:10] <dopeghoti> AndersBrohus: ^
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#616 [13:10] <L1nkJD> ty
#617 [13:10] <AndersBrohus> Okay :P
#618 [13:10] <Thrifty> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zKCRqQVH
#619 [13:10] <Thrifty> No one can connect
#620 [13:10] <Thrifty> it shows that error
#621 [13:10] <L1nkJD> http://pastebin.com/bmyNkVkf
#622 [13:11] <dopeghoti> Thrifty: looks like your server is unable to resolve Minecraft's domain name
#623 [13:11] <Kealper> Thrifty: go into your server.properties file and set online-mode to false
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#625 [13:11] <AndersBrohus> @dopeghoti here is it
#626 [13:11] <AndersBrohus> http://pastebin.com/RXpR5ZAR
#627 [13:12] <Thrifty> I've put online-mode to false and it's working, how can I fix the problem?
#628 [13:13] <clee-saan> VoxelHead done, i'll start playing and let you know if it crashes
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#630 [13:13] <dopeghoti> AndersBrohus: looks like it's a problem with your sound drivers. Try reinstalling those?
#631 [13:13] <shadowmarch> hey
#632 [13:13] <AndersBrohus> i can try update them :)
#633 [13:13] <shadowmarch> can anyone help me install a savegame?
#634 [13:13] <dopeghoti> ??> shadowmarch smp/savefiles
#635 [13:13] <VoxelHead> shadowmarch: (smp/savefiles) Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#636 [13:13] <VoxelHead> shadowmarch: (smp/savefiles) To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
#637 [13:14] <shadowmarch> yes, i know that, but how do i actually download this:
#638 [13:14] <shadowmarch> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=11879
#639 [13:14] <shadowmarch> i want to download it for offline use
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#641 [13:15] <shadowmarch> any ideas?
#642 [13:15] <L1nkJD> as far as i know, you cant unless they upload the map
#643 [13:15] <shadowmarch> oh
#644 [13:15] <dopeghoti> shadowmarch: looks like that's a classic map; not compatible with Beta.
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#646 [13:15] <shadowmarch> does anyone know any really cool saves that have been released
#647 [13:15] <shadowmarch> a little bit like that one
#648 [13:16] <shadowmarch> ?
#649 [13:16] <KA_Gamer> Shadowmarch: Google can solve this. Just type in "Minecraft Saves"
#650 [13:16] <shadowmarch> i cant find any
#651 [13:17] <shadowmarch> yes i can :)
#652 [13:17] <KA_Gamer> Glad to help.
#653 [13:17] <L1nkJD> :D
#654 [13:18] <L1nkJD> dopeghoti: Any luck?
#655 [13:19] <dopeghoti> L1nkJD: your error log isn't pointing me in any obvious directions, I'm afraid :/
#656 [13:19] * dopeghoti tags xales in
#656 [13:19] <L1nkJD> dham
#657 [13:19] <dopeghoti> sorry :(
#658 [13:20] <L1nkJD> i get a new one everytime i try it, but i guess theyd all be the same
#659 [13:20] <dopeghoti> or similar.
#660 [13:21] <L1nkJD> i cant get one from running it thugh the browser coz it keeps closing it
#661 [13:22] <L1nkJD> the only think i can think of is the java but its up to date so im puzzled
#662 [13:22] <dopeghoti> L1nkJD: try uninstalling and reinstalling Java?
#663 [13:23] <dopeghoti> worth a shot I s'pose.
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#665 [13:24] <L1nkJD> done when i updated it
#666 [13:24] <L1nkJD> and then i restarted
#667 [13:24] <clee-saan> VoxelHead : the game just crashed again, reloading the binaries did nothing. Anything else ?
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#669 [13:24] <dopeghoti> ??> clee-saan win/profile
#670 [13:24] <VoxelHead> clee-saan: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#671 [13:24] <VoxelHead> clee-saan: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#672 [13:27] <clee-saan> okay i'll try that sometime
#673 [13:27] <clee-saan> thanks
#674 [13:27] <L1nkJD> it couldent be my antivius ither
#675 [13:30] <KA_Gamer> Joining #minecraft is proving difficult. Can someone give me more specific instructions that NickServ?
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#677 [13:30] <L1nkJD> gonna try an old launcher
#678 [13:30] <dopeghoti> ??>> KA_Gamer irc
#679 [13:30] <KA_Gamer> Thanks.
#680 [13:31] <dopeghoti> cheers
#681 [13:32] <L1nkJD> if only that worked, xD nope no diffrent
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#686 [13:34] <KA_Gamer> I hope someone needs help, becuase I'm getting bored.
#687 [13:34] <clee-saan> KA_Gamer i do, but unless you can fix minecraft's crashing issue...
#688 [13:34] <CannedBread> My question also, the crashing.
#689 [13:34] <KA_Gamer> Well, I'm not Notch, so...
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#691 [13:35] <clee-saan> i think it's innherent to the game
#692 [13:35] <KA_Gamer> But as far as the crashing goes.
#693 [13:35] <KA_Gamer> I need more information.
#694 [13:35] <L1nkJD> when i try running minecraft.jar it comes up "failed to load Main-class manafest attrabute from ........."
#695 [13:36] <KA_Gamer> What's your OS?
#696 [13:36] <CannedBread> MC just black screens on me after 5 minutes of playing.
#697 [13:36] <L1nkJD> windows 7 pro 64x
#698 [13:36] <dopeghoti> ??> CannedBread win/reinst
#699 [13:36] <VoxelHead> CannedBread: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#700 [13:36] <VoxelHead> CannedBread: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#702 [13:39] <KA_Gamer> Sorta new at this, but I'm trying my best. I know a lot about the server issues more.
#703 [13:39] <L1nkJD> hmm, thats all ive got
#704 [13:39] <xales> L1nkJD: why are you running minecraft.jar?
#705 [13:40] <KA_Gamer> ^That's what I was thinking
#706 [13:40] <L1nkJD> what was that, i refreshed
#707 [13:40] <KA_Gamer> ??< Keyword
#708 [13:40] <L1nkJD> ??< work
#709 [13:41] <L1nkJD> hey that dosed work xD
#710 [13:41] <L1nkJD> dosent^
#711 [13:41] <KA_Gamer> I thought so, but I just wanted to make sure.
#712 [13:41] <KA_Gamer> ??< index
#713 [13:41] <L1nkJD> ??< java
#714 [13:42] <xales> L1nkJD: why are you using the .jar?
#715 [13:42] <xales> you shouldn't use the .jar on Windows
#716 [13:42] <L1nkJD> well ive tryed everything
#717 [13:42] <KA_Gamer> Use this
#718 [13:42] <KA_Gamer> !server
#719 [13:42] <xales> L1nkJD: are you trying to run the server or the client?
#720 [13:43] <L1nkJD> client
#721 [13:43] <KA_Gamer> ??< 1k
#722 [13:43] <xales> L1nkJD: use the .exe
#723 [13:43] <xales> not the .jar
#724 [13:43] <xales> !client
#725 [13:44] <L1nkJD> yeah i have
#726 [13:44] <xales> and what happens when you try to run that?
#727 [13:44] <L1nkJD> loads, i put my info in, goes to download screen, then closes
#728 [13:44] <KA_Gamer> ??< Ask
#729 [13:45] <xales> L1nkJD: do you have an antivirus program running? there are several known to cause problems like that
#730 [13:45] <L1nkJD> McAfee and ive already tryed disableing it
#731 [13:45] <KA_Gamer> ??< Bindport
#732 [13:46] <xales> L1nkJD: try uninstalling it completely
#733 [13:46] <KA_Gamer> ??< bugreport
#734 [13:46] <xales> mcafee is pretty horribad, like Norton :(
#735 [13:46] <L1nkJD> i got it for free
#736 [13:46] <xales> KA_Gamer: Use ##VoxelHead for that, so as not to spam this channel
#737 [13:46] <L1nkJD> from my college
#738 [13:47] <KA_Gamer> Thanks, just browsing them
#739 [13:47] <xales> L1nkJD: Giving away normally paid software for free
#740 [13:47] <xales> just shows how horrible that it is
#741 [13:47] <xales> they can't get anyone to pay for it
#742 [13:47] <xales> so they give it away
#743 [13:47] <xales> <.<
#744 [13:47] <KA_Gamer> ##VoxelHead commands
#745 [13:47] <L1nkJD> xD this laptop im on was free too
#746 [13:47] <xales> KA_Gamer: no, I mean the channel ##VoxelHead
#747 [13:47] <L1nkJD> i have dsylexia
#748 [13:47] <KA_Gamer> O, lol
#749 [13:47] <xales> /join ##VoxelHead
#750 [13:48] <xales> L1nkJD: try uninstalling McAfee then, it won't do any harm
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#752 [13:48] <KA_Gamer> PS. not lol about dyslexia
#753 [13:49] <L1nkJD> xD i lol at it
#754 [13:50] <L1nkJD> i often type collage rather than college and it makes some rather funny convos
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#760 [14:07] <L1nkJD> killed the convo, but uninstalling mcafee dident help
#761 [14:08] <xales> did you restart the computer after uninstalling?
#762 [14:08] <SUMMALAJNEN> Hmm.. may i ask a question regarding the plugin iConomy?
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#764 [14:10] <BarryCarlyon> SUMMALAJNEN: nope this is a mod free zone.
#765 [14:10] <L1nkJD> yei did
#766 [14:10] <SUMMALAJNEN> BarryCarlyon: where can i find support regarding plugins and such?
#767 [14:10] <ArmEagle> hmm, are minecarts slower with 1.3. Or is this perhaps minecart mania that's doing that?
#768 [14:10] <xales> ??> SUMMALAJNEN mods
#769 [14:10] <VoxelHead> SUMMALAJNEN: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#770 [14:10] <VoxelHead> SUMMALAJNEN: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#771 [14:11] <SUMMALAJNEN> xales: thanks alot!
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#773 [14:11] <AndersBrohus> hi
#774 [14:11] <BarryCarlyon> ArmEagle: I've noticed some different but I have not been able to test further.
#775 [14:11] <AndersBrohus> now i have installed the new audio driver and still no sounds
#776 [14:12] <L1nkJD> are you getting sound from other things?
#777 [14:12] <AndersBrohus> Yes i can hear music and sounds its just no sounds from MineCraft
#778 [14:13] <xales> AndersBrohus: are you on Windows?
#779 [14:13] <L1nkJD> have you checked your settings? in minecraft?
#780 [14:13] <BurnZeZ> http://i.imgur.com/Td2jW.png
#781 [14:13] <BurnZeZ> Facepalm.
#782 [14:13] <BurnZeZ> I fell for that link. :(
#783 [14:14] <AndersBrohus> Yes i still runs Windows 7 64Bits :( i want a MacBook Pro
#784 [14:14] <xales> o w n e d
#785 [14:14] <BurnZeZ> Not just clicked it, no.
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#787 [14:14] <L1nkJD> xD
#788 [14:14] <BurnZeZ> I copy-pasted it into my browser.
#789 [14:14] <xales> AndersBrohus: are you on a laptop?
#790 [14:14] <AndersBrohus> Nope im on a HP Pavilion Elite HPE 030sc and i have checked my settings
#791 [14:14] <AndersBrohus> MineCraft just closes when i try turn sounds on
#792 [14:15] <xales> have you tried
#793 [14:15] <xales> ?? win/reinst
#794 [14:15] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#795 [14:15] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#796 [14:15] <L1nkJD> was just about to say that^
#797 [14:15] <AndersBrohus> do i get my worlds deleted ?
#798 [14:15] <xales> AndersBrohus: no
#799 [14:15] <AndersBrohus> okay :D
#800 [14:15] <xales> if you only delete "bin"
#801 [14:16] <xales> if you delete "save" then the worlds will be deleted
#802 [14:16] <xales> so only delete "bin" :)
#803 [14:17] <AndersBrohus> Minecraft still closes..
#804 [14:17] <xales> do this
#805 [14:17] <xales> ?? win/dxdiag
#806 [14:17] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#807 [14:17] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#808 [14:18] <AndersBrohus> Okay :)
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#810 [14:18] <AndersBrohus> Here is my DxDiag file
#811 [14:18] <AndersBrohus> http://pastebin.com/ZmmG63De
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#813 [14:19] <Sadhill> plz anyone can send me the set up of this game for mac osx ?
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#815 [14:19] <silfaen> I'm having some problems, I bought in alpha and now in beta it's giving me the message "user not premium"
#816 [14:19] <AndersBrohus> and here is my hs_err_pid file that comes after it closes
#817 [14:19] <AndersBrohus> http://pastebin.com/ng2tUzrz
#818 [14:19] <xales> Sadhill: the "set up"?
#819 [14:19] <xales> silfaen: what is your username?
#820 [14:20] <silfaen> Silfaen
#821 [14:20] <silfaen> lolol
#822 [14:20] <Sadhill> xales: minecraft apps for mac :)
#823 [14:20] <Sadhill> ^^
#824 [14:20] <xales> Sadhill: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#825 [14:20] <Sadhill> doesn't work
#826 [14:20] <xales> Sadhill: why not?
#827 [14:20] <Sadhill> when i enter my log and passwor
#828 [14:20] <Sadhill> it say me
#829 [14:20] <xales> silfaen: it shows you aren't marked as premium still - email payment@mojang.com
#830 [14:20] <Sadhill> User not premimum :(
#831 [14:21] <Sadhill> i must buy the game for play ?
#832 [14:21] <silfaen> ^has the same issue apparently
#833 [14:21] <xales> Sadhill: yes
#834 [14:21] <xales> Sadhill: the game is not free
#835 [14:21] <Sadhill> ok ok
#836 [14:21] <Sadhill> ;)
#837 [14:21] <silfaen> Or not lol
#838 [14:21] <Sadhill> sorry ^^
#839 [14:21] <silfaen> Thanks, I'll email now
#840 [14:21] <xales> Sadhill: you can play a (very different and old) version at http://minecraft.net/play.jsp
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#843 [14:21] <Proteh> Hello. I'm having problems with the forums, for some reason I don't recieve the activation e-mail, I even resent it 4 times and I still don't recieve it. My forum nickname is "Proteh". Could a forum administrator activate my account, please?
#844 [14:21] <Sadhill> 15 $
#845 [14:22] <Sadhill> the price of this game ?
#846 [14:22] <xales> Proteh: Unfortunately, this isn't help for the forum. Try #rsw or emailing the support email address
#847 [14:22] <xales> Sadhill: yes
#848 [14:22] <Sadhill> ok ok
#849 [14:22] <Sadhill> :)
#850 [14:22] <dopeghoti> Sadhill: it's EUR14.95
#851 [14:22] <dopeghoti> Sadhill: not USD
#852 [14:22] <Sadhill> anyone from france ?
#853 [14:22] <Sadhill> thanks you dopeghoti :)
#854 [14:22] <Sadhill> 14.95
#855 [14:22] <Sadhill> so good ^^
#856 [14:23] <AndersBrohus> @dopeghoti i still got my problems..
#857 [14:23] <Proteh> Thanks xales. What's the support email address?
#858 [14:24] <xales> Proteh: no idea, I think it might be hello@minecraftforum.net
#859 [14:25] <Proteh> Okay, thanks anyway.
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#861 [14:26] <xales> AndersBrohus: Do you have any USB sound devices plugged in?
#862 [14:27] <AndersBrohus> Yes my Razer Megalodon :)
#863 [14:27] <xales> Try unplugging it
#864 [14:27] <xales> then turning sound on
#865 [14:27] <AndersBrohus> okay :)
#866 [14:28] <AndersBrohus> still shutsdown
#867 [14:29] <xales> try unplugging all audio-related devices =/
#868 [14:29] <AndersBrohus> ALL ?
#869 [14:29] <xales> yes
#870 [14:29] <xales> just to see if it works
#871 [14:29] <AndersBrohus> not worked
#872 [14:30] <dopeghoti> ??> AndersBrohus win/profile
#873 [14:30] <VoxelHead> AndersBrohus: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#874 [14:30] <VoxelHead> AndersBrohus: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#875 [14:31] <AndersBrohus> Okay, i can say on my school PC i have sounds xD
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#877 [14:31] <Coll> is there a minecraft server irc channel?
#878 [14:32] <AndersBrohus> I GOT SOUNDS NOW :D
#879 [14:32] <AndersBrohus> i just deactivated the other sound drivers that i haved so i only have the one to my headset and one to my red/green :D
#880 [14:33] <AndersBrohus> Thanks for all the help i will restart my PC now because of updates :D
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#883 [14:38] <Coll> is there?
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#887 [14:42] <raiders> im having a weird problem with the 1.3 server update, i can only have two connections to the server at a time, a third attempted connection times out
#888 [14:42] <raiders> its running on a centos vps - 1.5gb ram 2.0ghz cpu and im running the standard command line
#889 [14:43] <xales> raiders: it's giving the client "connection timed out"?
#890 [14:43] <raiders> for the third connection
#891 [14:43] <raiders> two players its fine, 3rd one either crashes the server or simply times out
#892 [14:44] <raiders> server console shows java out of memory errors
#893 [14:44] <xales> what command are you running the server with, specifically?
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#895 [14:44] <raiders> screen -S mc java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#896 [14:45] <xales> what exactly is the error you get?
#897 [14:45] <raiders> before i was running with 256 instead of 1024 before i upgraded my server... that ran fine on 1.2
#898 [14:45] <raiders> sec
#899 [14:46] <raiders> also, if i leave the putty connection open i cant connect to the minecraft server at all, if i close it i can get those two connections
#900 [14:46] <raiders> http://privatepaste.com/8eedbea2cf/fdasfsa
#901 [14:48] <xales> that actually sounds like a problem with the VPS
#902 [14:48] <xales> either it's actually out of memory, or the hypervisor is denying more threads
#903 [14:48] <xales> what provider is it, if you don't mind saying?
#904 [14:48] <raiders> burst.net
#905 [14:49] <raiders> veportal is the vps virtual platform
#906 [14:49] <xales> yeah, that's the problem
#907 [14:49] <xales> openVZ is very, very, very, very bad for game servers
#908 [14:49] <xales> and is likely the issue =/
#909 [14:50] <AG_Scott> OpenVZ is the devil.
#910 [14:50] <raiders> would you suggest a server provider :>
#911 [14:50] <AG_Scott> Anything decent is going to cost much more than burst.net
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#913 [14:51] * xales is getting some horrible lag internet lag =/
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#914 [14:52] <Sooi11> Hey
#915 [14:52] <raiders> im not looking to run any huge server, and i wasn't having this problem before this 1.3 update... suggest away, im already paying 15/month worth of upgrades to make this server meet requirements over what i need for my site
#916 [14:52] <AG_Scott> slicehost.com and linode.com are both great. i work for allgamer.net and we do minecraft servers/vps too.
#917 [14:52] <AG_Scott> Me too xales :/
#918 [14:52] <AG_Scott> It's this network I think
#919 [14:52] <Sooi11> Can someone try my server please
#920 [14:53] <xales> Sooi11: you can use the !check thing
#921 [14:53] <Sooi11> ?:o
#922 [14:53] <AG_Scott> wtf @ aubot?
#923 [14:53] <xales> AG_Scott: feel free to advertise yourself
#924 [14:53] <xales> AG_Scott: it thought you were spamming or something
#925 [14:53] <AG_Scott> oh lol
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#927 [14:54] <xolotl> !check 178.118.141.145
#928 [14:54] <xolotl> Sooi11: If that's your IP, then your port-forwarding needs work
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#930 [14:54] <Sooi11> It probaly works now : 178.118.141.145:50500
#931 [14:54] <Sooi11> please try
#932 [14:55] <xolotl> !check 178.118.141.145:50500
#933 [14:55] <xales> Sooi11: you can try too
#934 [14:55] <Sooi11> i know but it maybe works only for me
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#936 [14:56] <xales> Sooi11: it checks the same way regardless of who uses the command
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#938 [14:57] <raiders> yeah, thats a bit insane just to run a minecraft server, looks like ill be setting up nix on my old computer :>
#939 [14:58] <Sooi11> !check 178.118.141.145
#940 [14:58] <Sooi11> ?
#941 [14:58] <Sooi11> :D
#942 [14:58] <Sooi11> huh?
#943 [14:58] <raiders> -.-
#944 [14:58] <raiders> really?
#945 [14:58] <xolotl> Sooi11: Need to specify the port, if it's not on the default
#946 [14:58] <Sooi11> e_o
#947 [14:58] <raiders> !check 178.118.141.145:50500
#948 [14:58] <Sooi11> im rlly not following
#949 [14:59] <Sooi11> But it works anyway
#950 [14:59] <xales> Sooi11: the bot just tries to connect to the server
#951 [14:59] <xolotl> Sooi11: See what raiders did (and also myself, above)
#952 [14:59] <xales> if you would connect using 178.118.141.145:50500, then that is what you give the bot
#953 [14:59] <Sooi11> ah ok
#954 [14:59] <Sooi11> thx
#955 [14:59] <Sooi11> rlly
#956 [14:59] <raiders> @ AG_Scott is AllGamer an EARSP or are you just hosting unranked bf2?
#957 [15:00] <Sooi11> But Notch have to explain it better
#958 [15:00] <Sooi11> or make it better
#959 [15:00] <AG_Scott> raiders, that isn't my dept.
#960 [15:00] <xales> Sooi11: there is no way to simplify hosting servers; it's not meant to be done by everyone
#961 [15:00] <AG_Scott> I'm just the linux guy :(
#962 [15:00] <xales> it's not something related to Minecraft - it's everything that works that way
#963 [15:00] <Sooi11> Well he needs to explain it better then e_o
#964 [15:01] <raiders> you are the one who set it up on port 50500...
#965 [15:01] <Sooi11> I did
#966 [15:01] <raiders> why?
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#968 [15:01] <Sooi11> idk
#969 [15:01] <Sooi11> why not
#970 [15:01] <raiders> then you should have no problems with connecting to that port
#971 [15:01] <xales> Sooi11: again, hosting servers isn't something meant for most people. it's not something that needs explanation if you have experience running servers =/
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#973 [15:01] <Sooi11> yeah
#974 [15:01] <Sooi11> thx anyway
#975 [15:01] <Sooi11> But uuhm
#976 [15:02] <Sooi11> How do people change like the Ip name for the server
#977 [15:02] <Sooi11> Like on Mcserverlist
#978 [15:02] <Sooi11> They have sites
#979 [15:02] <AG_Scott> what do you mean?
#980 [15:02] <Sooi11> w8
#981 [15:02] <AG_Scott> like mc.yourdomain.com?
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#984 [15:03] <raiders> they redirect the subdomain mc.x.com to their server ip address
#985 [15:03] <Coll> so ill try and ask again
#986 [15:03] <Coll> is there a minecraft server channel on this irc?
#987 [15:03] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#988 [15:03] <AG_Scott> that's not redirecting.
#989 [15:03] <xolotl> Sooi11: Minecraft will accept either a hostname or an IP to connect to; if somebody's set up DNS so that a name points to their server's IP, then people can use that to connect
#990 [15:03] <AG_Scott> It's just an A record usually.
#991 [15:03] <AG_Scott> Coll, #smp i think
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#993 [15:03] <Coll> thank you
#994 [15:04] <nevercast> you're welcome
#995 [15:04] <nevercast> lol jks
#996 [15:04] <AG_Scott> how is vps?
#997 [15:04] <raiders> huh?
#998 [15:05] <AG_Scott> talking to nevercast :P
#999 [15:05] <raiders> o
#1000 [15:05] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Good Scott, It was a little wobbley at the start and I was worried I wasted money, but about 10 minutes in. It really kicked in and it's been smooth ever since.
#1001 [15:06] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Just setting up an init.d script for Minecraft.
#1002 [15:06] <AG_Scott> Good.
#1003 [15:06] <nevercast> AG_Scott, You couldn't give me a small hand with that could you?
#1004 [15:06] <nevercast> If you're not too busy.
#1005 [15:06] <xales> nevercast: just use this
#1006 [15:06] <xales> #!/bin/bash2.0
#1007 [15:06] <xales> FUCKING START MINECRAFT
#1008 [15:06] <xales> END
#1009 [15:06] <xales> :D
#1010 [15:06] <nevercast> ..
#1011 [15:06] <nevercast> LOL
#1012 [15:06] <nevercast> I want, start, stop and restart.
#1013 [15:07] <AG_Scott> I've never actually created an init script for it.
#1014 [15:07] <xales> ok then
#1015 [15:07] <xales> #!/bin/bash2.0
#1016 [15:07] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Ever created an init.d script at all?
#1017 [15:07] <AG_Scott> yes
#1018 [15:07] <xales> IF I SAID START THEN FUCKING START MINECRAFT IF I SAID STOP THEN FUCKING STOP IT AND IF I SAID RESTART THEN FUCKING RESTART IT
#1019 [15:07] <nevercast> Well I can write all the start/stop code..
#1020 [15:07] <xales> END OF FILE
#1021 [15:07] <xales> :D
#1022 [15:07] <AG_Scott> it's kind of different with minecraft.
#1023 [15:07] <nevercast> I just don't know the init script structure
#1024 [15:07] <xales> nevercast: there is an example on the wiki
#1025 [15:07] <nevercast> xales, o'rly?
#1026 [15:07] <AG_Scott> You have to send "stop" because sending sigterm doesn't cleanly shutdown
#1027 [15:08] <xales> nevercast: yesrly
#1028 [15:08] <xales> AG_Scott: just sigkill :)
#1029 [15:08] <AG_Scott> it saves?
#1030 [15:08] <nevercast> haha :D
#1031 [15:08] <xales> no
#1032 [15:08] <nevercast> no not likely
#1033 [15:08] <nevercast> lol.
#1034 [15:08] <xales> it can't handle in any way a SIGKILL
#1035 [15:08] <xales> it never sees it
#1036 [15:08] <xales> though a SIGHUP might make it clean save
#1037 [15:08] * xales has no idea
#1037 [15:08] <nevercast> hhmmm.
#1038 [15:08] <nevercast> Yeah I don't think any Signal will make it clean save
#1039 [15:09] <xales> try it :)
#1040 [15:09] <nevercast> You'll have to send a stop to it's stdio
#1041 [15:09] <nevercast> I didn't even think of that =/
#1042 [15:09] <AG_Scott> ye
#1043 [15:09] <AG_Scott> too much trouble than its worth imo
#1044 [15:09] <nevercast> I was going to just kill by pid
#1045 [15:09] <nevercast> and then you mentioned saving lol.
#1046 [15:09] <nevercast> was like, hot damn
#1047 [15:09] <AG_Scott> @restart cronjob that starts the server
#1048 [15:09] <xolotl> There's an init script at the wiki which runs the server in screen, and sends commands to it that way
#1049 [15:10] <AG_Scott> @reboot*
#1050 [15:10] <nevercast> xolotl, that's clever.
#1051 [15:10] <xolotl> (or there used to be, anyway)
#1052 [15:10] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I'd probably use cronjob, but it'd be to check the server is still running
#1053 [15:10] <nevercast> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_startup_script
#1054 [15:10] <AG_Scott> I wrote a similar script for a customer but I don't know the servers IP to get it.
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#1056 [15:11] <AG_Scott> Ohwait, we quit using it and started using monit.
#1057 [15:12] <raiders> sorry to interrupt, scott i can connect with the putty window open when i start the server as root instead of my minecraft user...
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#1059 [15:13] <nevercast> AG_Scott, monit?
#1060 [15:13] <raiders> and i thought i set the limit for ram usage on that account really high...
#1061 [15:13] <nevercast> raiders, you have problems with your minecraft user connecting?
#1062 [15:14] <xales> raiders: why are you setting a RAM limit at all? =/
#1063 [15:14] <xales> and again, OpenVZ...RAM is treated stupidly
#1064 [15:14] <raiders> the limit is like 100gb...
#1065 [15:14] <nevercast> raiders, I don't think you have 100gb of ram though :P
#1066 [15:15] <nevercast> raiders, are you with All Gamer?
#1067 [15:15] <xales> nevercast: no, burst.net (very cheap OpenVZ provider, and god, I wonder why they are cheap..not really =/)
#1068 [15:15] <nevercast> lol.
#1069 [15:16] <nevercast> yeah raiders is probably tring to set his upper bound ram limit.
#1070 [15:16] <nevercast> but his lower bound limit will be set by his host.. and it's probably like 512mb or less
#1071 [15:16] <nevercast> so he's not going to get higher than that ^_^
#1072 [15:16] <raiders> works as root :(
#1073 [15:16] <dopeghoti> wait
#1074 [15:17] <dopeghoti> y'all want a minecraft initscript for /etc/init.d ?
#1075 [15:17] <AG_Scott> nevercast, http://mmonit.com/monit/
#1076 [15:17] <dopeghoti> I have one if you want..
#1077 [15:17] <nevercast> dopeghoti, you do?
#1078 [15:17] <dopeghoti> I do.
#1079 [15:17] <nevercast> dopeghoti, I'm interested
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#1081 [15:19] <dopeghoti> nevercast: http://pastebin.com/NNjMC98V
#1082 [15:19] <dopeghoti> It runs MC in a screen for ease of interactivity.
#1083 [15:20] <Vikingr> Hi, I'm having some problems with the Paintings, I'm trying to make a hidden passage, and I'm trying to find the paintings folder to add personal paintings... Anyone?
#1084 [15:20] <nevercast> dopeghoti, doesn't use 'as user' though
#1085 [15:20] <nevercast> I don't want Minecraft running as root.
#1086 [15:20] <nevercast> I can probably make that mod myself however.
#1087 [15:20] <dopeghoti> nevercast: well, I don't _run_ it as root
#1088 [15:20] <dopeghoti> but adding whoami checks are easy-peasy
#1089 [15:20] <xales> Vikingr: I don't know where that is, not sure if it's possible to add your own paintaings very easily
#1090 [15:20] <nevercast> err
#1091 [15:20] <xales> look for a tutorial on the forum somewhere
#1092 [15:20] <raiders> so nevercast... my provider sets a limit on other user accounts?
#1093 [15:21] * xales has to go =/
#1093 [15:21] <nevercast> dopeghoti, does it run on system boot
#1094 [15:21] <raiders> because with root my server works fine
#1095 [15:21] <nevercast> raiders, of course LOL
#1096 [15:21] <dopeghoti> nevercast: indirectly. /etc/rc.local has su -u minecraft -c /etc/init.d/minecraft.sh start
#1097 [15:21] <nevercast> raiders, You get what your host wants you to have.. which is based on what you pay for
#1098 [15:21] <dopeghoti> with 's as needed for deglobbing
#1099 [15:21] <nevercast> dopeghoti, ah fair enough
#1100 [15:23] <nevercast> wow dopeghoti
#1101 [15:23] <nevercast> the whole
#1102 [15:24] <nevercast> server minecraft say hi
#1103 [15:24] <nevercast> thing, very cool.
#1104 [15:24] <nevercast> *service
#1105 [15:25] <dopeghoti> Screen is a _wonderful_ tool.
#1106 [15:26] <Vikingr> hmm
#1107 [15:27] <Vikingr> Anyone here know how to make hidden passages with paintings?
#1108 [15:27] <Coll> put painting up break blocks behind it?
#1109 [15:27] <nevercast> Do pictures stay on a block after you remove it?
#1110 [15:28] <Vikingr> Painting falls down
#1111 [15:28] <Coll> no clue then
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#1113 [15:28] <exitus> d
#1114 [15:28] <dopeghoti> put the painting on the edge of a door that's flush with the cooridor wall
#1115 [15:28] <exitus> can you still make the door to "the nether" ?
#1116 [15:28] <Vikingr> flush?
#1117 [15:28] <Coll> means it isnt indented it
#1118 [15:29] <Vikingr> in other words..?
#1119 [15:29] <Vikingr> xD
#1120 [15:29] <exitus> any you know?
#1121 [15:29] <nevercast> WAIT, dopeghoti. Could you so that with iron doors?
#1122 [15:29] <nevercast> dopeghoti, meaning you'd need a switch?
#1123 [15:30] <KA_Gamer> With iron doors, yes.
#1124 [15:30] <nevercast> oh gosh
#1125 [15:30] <Kealper> deadmau5 needs to get on irc more often so i can tell him how much his music rocks >:(
#1126 [15:30] <nevercast> I gotta try that sometime
#1127 [15:30] <nevercast> Kealper, hard!
#1128 [15:31] <raiders> ugh
#1129 [15:31] <raiders> auth servers down -.-
#1130 [15:31] <dopeghoti> nevercast: the door in such arrangements would never be opened or closed; it exists merely to provide a surface upon which to hang the painting
#1131 [15:32] <nevercast> dopeghoti, oh okay
#1132 [15:33] * nevercast is listening to Sub Focus - A1 Deadmau5 Ft Robswire Vinyl - Ghosts N Stuff ( Sub Focus Remix )
#1132 [15:33] <nevercast> Mini-Vinyls ftw.
#1133 [15:33] <raiders> :O sub focus remix?
#1134 [15:33] <nevercast> raiders, Yeah :D
#1135 [15:34] <nevercast> raiders, It's pretty good
#1136 [15:34] <raiders> to youtube
#1137 [15:34] <dopeghoti> nevercast: please tell me that script is not automated. Please.
#1138 [15:34] * Kealper is listening to Slip - Deadmau5
#1138 [15:34] <Kealper> dmanit
#1139 [15:34] <Kealper> damnit*
#1140 [15:34] <nevercast> LOL
#1141 [15:34] <nevercast> ^B ftw
#1142 [15:34] <dopeghoti> You too, Kealper.
#1143 [15:34] <Kealper> meant ot do bold, not underline
#1144 [15:34] <nevercast> dopeghoti, no, It's not automated.
#1145 [15:34] <dopeghoti> Then we'll get on just fine.
#1146 [15:34] <nevercast> haha <3
#1147 [15:35] <rf``> !isdown
#1148 [15:35] <nevercast> !isdown minecraft.net
#1149 [15:35] <GreyBot> nevercast: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1150 [15:35] <rf``> er right
#1151 [15:35] <Kealper> dopeghoti: the day i can get an ssh terminal window to recognize what i'm listening to when the server i'm ssh'd to is thousands of miles away is the day i quit >.>
#1152 [15:35] <nevercast> Kealper, LOLWAT
#1153 [15:35] <Kealper> (i don't care if there is ways, i'd like to stay bissfully ignorant)
#1154 [15:35] <nevercast> You quit upon success?
#1155 [15:36] <SkiingPenguins> after success there is nothing else
#1156 [15:36] <raiders> doesnt everyone?
#1157 [15:36] <raiders> if it aint broke dont fix it?
#1158 [15:36] <KA_Gamer> whoops, IDK how that ended up here.
#1159 [15:36] <Kealper> O.o
#1160 [15:36] <KA_Gamer> Well, I do.
#1161 [15:36] * nevercast is listening to Deadmau5 feat. Rob Swire - This Is Dubstep Vol.2 - Ghosts n Stuff (Nero Remix)
#1161 [15:36] <dopeghoti> You mean you're noy using xmms2 remotely and listening to the stream? I am.. not surprised (:
#1162 [15:36] <KA_Gamer> I just didn't know it would do that.
#1163 [15:36] <nevercast> Which can I say, is a lot slower than Sub Focuses remix lol.
#1164 [15:36] <nevercast> Dubstep vs DnB
#1165 [15:37] <Kealper> i have that Nero Remix
#1166 [15:37] <dopeghoti> KA_Gamer: eh?
#1167 [15:37] <nevercast> Kealper, most people do if they like Dubstep
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#1169 [15:37] <SkiingPenguins> dubstep = those wavy sounding noises?
#1170 [15:37] <raiders> wub wub wub
#1171 [15:37] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, That's called a wobble
#1172 [15:37] <Kealper> wobblebass ftw
#1173 [15:37] <dopeghoti> It's just a reversed pew pew.
#1174 [15:37] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, created with an LFO and a band pass or low pass filter
#1175 [15:37] <dopeghoti> only bassy.
#1176 [15:38] <SkiingPenguins> that's 2nd only to katy perry in my most hated music list
#1177 [15:38] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, SMD :)
#1178 [15:38] <KA_Gamer> I typed in the VoxelHead command in the proper channel, looked at this one, and then the message appeared in here.
#1179 [15:38] <Kealper> KA_Gamer: lol
#1180 [15:38] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, It was a notice
#1181 [15:38] <dopeghoti> KA_Gamer: VoxelHead's replies are CTCP NOTICEs.
#1182 [15:38] <raiders> http://screensnapr.com/v/v9d80h.png
#1183 [15:38] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, Your client delivers it to your current channel
#1184 [15:38] <raiders> my ass
#1185 [15:38] <Fear> The bot is IN YOUR MIND
#1186 [15:38] <nevercast> lol Fear.
#1187 [15:39] <dopeghoti> Is this where I make an I N C E P T I O N reference?
#1188 [15:39] <raiders> yes.
#1189 [15:39] * dopeghoti points up then.
#1189 [15:39] <nevercast> lol.
#1190 [15:39] <Kealper> *BWAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
#1191 [15:39] * nevercast is listening to 16BIT - JUMP
#1191 [15:39] <nevercast> It's sick :D
#1192 [15:40] <raiders> so what is this, a ddos attack on top of all the users of minecraft?
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#1194 [15:40] <raiders> who would ddos it anyways... makes no sense :(
#1195 [15:40] <dopeghoti> no, it's a conversation about music it seems.
#1196 [15:40] <raiders> i was referring to the fact that minecraft.net is down... again...
#1197 [15:40] <nevercast> dopeghoti, I think he meant minecraft.net being down
#1198 [15:40] <nevercast> lol.
#1199 [15:40] <Fear> Iran would
#1200 [15:40] <nevercast> raiders, No one ddos'd it
#1201 [15:40] <raiders> moar servers notch... go.
#1202 [15:40] <nevercast> dopeghoti, Help reference to shitty hosting?
#1203 [15:41] <dopeghoti> ?? mc.net/hosting
#1204 [15:41] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: Since migrating over to Amazon's EC2 cloud, the cluster servers for minecraft.net have been under impressive strain. It has continually buckled under the pressure of registering users, authenticating clients, crediting accounts, providing custom skin content, maintaining a classic server directory, as well as providing a front-end website for users.
#1205 [15:41] <Kealper> raiders: the servers themselves are fine
#1206 [15:41] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: This is clearly not intended and Mojang is working on a new server arrangement, but is ensuring that it's done properly and not just quickly as was the move to Amazon.
#1207 [15:41] <Kealper> raiders: the traffic is too heavy for amazon's load balencer for the cloud to handle
#1208 [15:41] <raiders> LOL
#1209 [15:41] <SkiingPenguins> aint that just shitty
#1210 [15:41] <nevercast> lol.
#1211 [15:41] <raiders> thats hilarious
#1212 [15:41] <nevercast> Well Minecraft IS Massive.
#1213 [15:41] <Kealper> so minecraft is literally so popular it's crashing amazon's EC2 equiptment / maxing it out
#1214 [15:41] <nevercast> it'll probably break most servers
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#1216 [15:42] <SkiingPenguins> are they gonna upgrade their stuff or no..?
#1217 [15:42] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, Lol upgrade what?
#1218 [15:42] <raiders> get one huge load balancer and a lot of farm servers...
#1219 [15:42] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, They are already spread over a cloud
#1220 [15:42] <raiders> do it like a corporation
#1221 [15:42] <fisken> hey is this the right place for an actual problem in minecraft gameplay? or is this just for getting the game working?
#1222 [15:42] <dopeghoti> SkiingPenguins: look at the *emboldificated* text.
#1223 [15:42] <raiders> like amazon.com... oh wait...
#1224 [15:42] <dopeghoti> ??> fisken ask
#1225 [15:42] <VoxelHead> fisken: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1226 [15:42] <VoxelHead> fisken: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1227 [15:43] <nevercast> dopeghoti, I like it when newcomers talk to VoxelHead.. and get angry when he's being 'Rude'
#1228 [15:43] <Kealper> raiders: yes, Amazon owns something called AWS, they do cloud computing solutions
#1229 [15:43] <dopeghoti> nevercast: that is sometimes amusing. It really upssets GLaDOS though.
#1230 [15:43] <nevercast> dopeghoti, why's that?
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#1232 [15:43] <dopeghoti> Not sure.
#1233 [15:43] <nevercast> Hmm.
#1234 [15:43] <fisken> i'm working with minecarts for the first time, and i'm trying to get a curved track to switch orientation when powered from the block directly below it from a redstone torch, but it isn't working
#1235 [15:43] <nevercast> dopeghoti, Is it his bot?
#1236 [15:43] <Nyxe> anyone having problems with minecraft atm ?
#1237 [15:44] <Kealper> nevercast: it's dopeghoti's
#1238 [15:44] <nevercast> fisken, You can do that in MC?
#1239 [15:44] <dopeghoti> nevercast: no, it's mine.
#1240 [15:44] <dopeghoti> ??> mc.net/down
#1241 [15:44] <nevercast> dopeghoti, oh lol.
#1242 [15:44] <fisken> nevercast: yes
#1243 [15:44] <dopeghoti> ??> Nyxe mc.net/down
#1244 [15:44] <VoxelHead> Nyxe: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1245 [15:44] <Fear> I just logged in
#1246 [15:44] <VoxelHead> Nyxe: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
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#1248 [15:44] <nevercast> Fear, It's not dead.. just overloaded.. you got lucky
#1249 [15:45] <fisken> Kealper: do you know anything about minecarts?
#1250 [15:45] <CobraKhan007> yep. midday eu time it was also overloaded
#1251 [15:45] <Kealper> fisken: lots, what did you need?
#1252 [15:45] <dopeghoti> fisken: try putting a lever on the ground next to the piece of track you want to switch, and use that to test.
#1253 [15:46] <fisken> dopeghoti: well i tried testing by wiring a torch literally right next to the curved track and got nothing
#1254 [15:46] <fisken> Kealper: i can't get curved tracks to switch orientation when i power them
#1255 [15:46] <Kealper> nevercast: wow...this I Remember remix by Caspa is pretty epic...if you don't have really good speakers you won't even hear the bass, it's that low lol
#1256 [15:46] <Kealper> fisken: that's...odd...
#1257 [15:47] <dopeghoti> fisken: do you have both sides of the branch in-place? the track needs to know which two states to change between
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#1259 [15:47] <SkiingPenguins> where can i learn about the F3 graph.. as in what each part of it means?
#1260 [15:48] <fisken> dopeghoti: well not for the test i didn't, but for what was going to be the finished project, yea, it had the branches in place
#1261 [15:48] <raiders> because im lazy, does anyone know how to exit out of an instance of screen (linux) back to the bash prompt but keep screen running?
#1262 [15:48] <fisken> dopeghoti: actually no, i did test it with branches in place as well
#1263 [15:48] <dopeghoti> SkiingPenguins: some info here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Debug_screen
#1264 [15:48] <dopeghoti> raiders: ^a, d
#1265 [15:48] <SkiingPenguins> thanks
#1266 [15:48] <einexile> other than roxbot can someone point me at a chaos server with some sort of a death penalty?
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#1268 [15:49] <dopeghoti> ??> einexile smp/servers
#1269 [15:49] <Thomasice> Hmm
#1270 [15:49] <VoxelHead> einexile: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#1271 [15:49] <VoxelHead> einexile: (smp/servers) You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#1272 [15:49] <Thomasice> WHy is Minecraft down?
#1273 [15:49] <dopeghoti> Thomasice: Lunch hour in the US?
#1274 [15:49] <Kealper> because minecraft.net has that effect on webservers
#1275 [15:49] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#1276 [15:49] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1277 [15:49] <CobraKhan007> too many players syndrom
#1278 [15:49] <einexile> um no
#1279 [15:49] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1280 [15:49] <Kealper> it knows how to break the internet
#1281 [15:49] <Thomasice> Ok
#1282 [15:49] <Thomasice> Thanks
#1283 [15:50] <einexile> thanks for nothing though
#1284 [15:50] <SkiingPenguins> dopeghoti it doesnt say what the dark red block is for
#1285 [15:50] <einexile> also it's broken
#1286 [15:50] <Thomasice> I dont live in the US Dope
#1287 [15:50] <Thomasice> Dopeghoti
#1288 [15:50] <Thomasice> xD
#1289 [15:50] <raiders> @dopeghoti thanks
#1290 [15:50] <dopeghoti> raiders: cheers
#1291 [15:51] <Thomasice> Anyone know any 1.3 Beta servers?
#1292 [15:51] <dopeghoti> Thomasice: no but countless unwashed hordes do
#1293 [15:51] <raiders> no more restarting my ssh connection :D
#1294 [15:52] <KA_Gamer> ??> Thomasice Google
#1295 [15:52] <VoxelHead> Thomasice: (google) http://google.com/ is your friend. Do not expect us to find things for you, when you are just as capable of using Google on your own. We aren't your personal Internet guide.
#1296 [15:52] <Thomasice> ok thanks
#1297 [15:52] <einexile> google's time is valuable
#1298 [15:52] <einexile> that was a pretty bad question though
#1299 [15:52] <KA_Gamer> Yep
#1300 [15:52] <Kealper> http://mcserverlist.net
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#1302 [15:55] <Thomasice> Minecraft is back on
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#1304 [15:55] <KA_Gamer> Yay!
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#1306 [15:56] <aetherian> 'ello
#1307 [15:56] <Sooi11> !check 178.118.141.145:50500
#1308 [15:57] <KA_Gamer> ^ That's a neat little app.
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#1310 [15:57] <KA_Gamer> But you might not want to type it in here, if you want a private server.
#1311 [15:57] <aetherian> isn't it though...
#1312 [15:57] <Kealper> this channel is usually pretty safe to say server IPs in
#1313 [15:57] <Sooi11> it sint private
#1314 [15:57] <SkiingPenguins> wtf why is there lava about 5 blocks deep from where i spawned? i spawned on a beach and i walk about 20 blocks and i see lava.. a lot
#1315 [15:58] <Sooi11> *isnt
#1316 [15:58] <raiders> volcano
#1317 [15:58] <raiders> duh
#1318 [15:58] <Kealper> as mostly everyone in here is tech-support and runs their own server anyways
#1319 [15:58] <aetherian> heh
#1320 [15:59] <KA_Gamer> SkiingPenguins: IDK, but I've noticed this a lot too. Maybe soon, you'll be able to make an obsidian factory.
#1321 [15:59] <raiders> where are those user ram limits set in centos, i think thats my problem, i dont think i ever set them back after redoing the way my minecraft account was setup and google isnt giving relevant results as of yet
#1322 [16:01] <KA_Gamer> ?? normal
#1323 [16:01] <VoxelHead> normal: That message is perfectly normal, happens all the time, and can safely be ignored.
#1324 [16:01] <raiders> was that directed at me?
#1325 [16:01] <aetherian> is ?? normal for the can't keep up message?
#1326 [16:01] <SkiingPenguins> dont think so
#1327 [16:02] <aetherian> oh
#1328 [16:02] <SkiingPenguins> wait
#1329 [16:02] <aetherian> okay then
#1330 [16:02] <SkiingPenguins> no that was towards raiders
#1331 [16:02] <KA_Gamer> Nah, I'm just looking through all of VoxelHead's commands, and saw this and thought it was funny.
#1332 [16:02] <aetherian> so is it for that?
#1333 [16:02] <KA_Gamer> It's probably for tests.
#1334 [16:02] <SkiingPenguins> i think normal is for cant keep up
#1335 [16:02] <aetherian> ?? index
#1336 [16:02] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex for a list of FAQ entries
#1337 [16:02] <aetherian> :)
#1338 [16:02] <aetherian> now everyone can spam them
#1339 [16:03] <KA_Gamer> Well thanks, and pray they don't. XD
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#1342 [16:04] <KA_Gamer> If you want to test them, go here: /join ##VoxelHead.
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#1344 [16:10] <nevercast> dopeghoti, To use an export in an export definition, Do I use ${KEY} ?
#1345 [16:10] <nevercast> instead of $KEY
#1346 [16:10] <KA_Gamer> ^Note this.
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#1348 [16:12] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, ?
#1349 [16:12] <KA_Gamer> I tried to chat with VoxelHead and this message poped up on all my open channels
#1350 [16:12] <Firehopper> anyone here that knows lots about minecraft.
#1351 [16:12] <aetherian> me
#1352 [16:12] <aetherian> mememe
#1353 [16:12] <nevercast> Firehopper, most of us
#1354 [16:12] <nevercast> lol.
#1355 [16:12] <nevercast> aetherian knows EVERYTHING though :)
#1356 [16:13] <aetherian> but of course
#1357 [16:13] <KA_Gamer> I know enough.
#1358 [16:13] <aetherian> I'm humble too. can'tcha tell?
#1359 [16:13] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, Not as much as aetherian obviously :)
#1360 [16:13] <Firehopper> I'm running newest one.. and it crashed hard while playing.. hard enough to cause computer to reboot..
#1361 [16:13] <aetherian> uhh
#1362 [16:13] <Firehopper> and it dont show my savegame anymore.
#1363 [16:13] <aetherian> is this the first time?
#1364 [16:13] <Firehopper> yes first time
#1365 [16:13] <aetherian> try turning down settings, for one thing
#1366 [16:14] <KA_Gamer> Check .minecraft.
#1367 [16:14] <Firehopper> hasnt done it before..
#1368 [16:14] <aetherian> what're your specs?
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#1370 [16:14] <Firehopper> athlon II x2 250
#1371 [16:14] <aetherian> ram?
#1372 [16:14] <Firehopper> 4 gig ram
#1373 [16:14] <Firehopper> ddr3
#1374 [16:14] <aetherian> do you have a gpu?
#1375 [16:14] <Firehopper> win 7 Home premium.
#1376 [16:14] <Firehopper> gts450
#1377 [16:14] <aetherian> .-.
#1378 [16:15] <aetherian> well anyway
#1379 [16:15] <Firehopper> x64 bit
#1380 [16:15] <aetherian> that stuff doesn't really matter
#1381 [16:15] <aetherian> so what were you doing in mc when it did this?
#1382 [16:15] <Firehopper> working on my home base..
#1383 [16:15] <aetherian> pfft
#1384 [16:15] <Firehopper> using a pickax.
#1385 [16:15] <mib_97cntg> good evening everyone =D
#1386 [16:15] <KA_Gamer> So it's workin then?
#1387 [16:16] <aetherian> well, just restart the game, Firehopper
#1388 [16:16] <Firehopper> I did restart the game.. my gamesave no longer appears
#1389 [16:16] <aetherian> go to appdata
#1390 [16:16] <aetherian> ?? win/appdata
#1391 [16:16] <aetherian> uhh\
#1392 [16:16] <aetherian> *uuh
#1393 [16:17] <aetherian> ?? win/path
#1394 [16:17] <VoxelHead> win/path: You probably need to add Java's binaries to your system's path.
#1395 [16:17] <VoxelHead> win/path: A more detailed walkthrough of this is forthcoming.
#1396 [16:17] <KA_Gamer> ?? win/.minecraft
#1397 [16:17] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1398 [16:17] <aetherian> darnit
#1399 [16:17] <aetherian> not the right one >.>
#1400 [16:17] <aetherian> aha!
#1401 [16:17] <KA_Gamer> There you go.
#1402 [16:17] <aetherian> thankyew
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#1404 [16:17] <aetherian> hey vial
#1405 [16:17] <Firehopper> okay in .minecraft
#1406 [16:17] <KA_Gamer> Do you see your saves?
#1407 [16:18] <Firehopper> yes
#1408 [16:18] <aetherian> go into it
#1409 [16:18] <KA_Gamer> ^
#1410 [16:18] <Firehopper> okay inside
#1411 [16:18] <aetherian> what do you see
#1412 [16:18] <KA_Gamer> Do you see your world name IE World1, World2
#1413 [16:19] <KA_Gamer> etc.
#1414 [16:19] <Firehopper> yes I see my world name..
#1415 [16:19] <aetherian> go into your world
#1416 [16:19] <Firehopper> and iside is a folder marked region and 3 more files
#1417 [16:19] <aetherian> uuhh
#1418 [16:19] <KA_Gamer> You might have to convert manualy.
#1419 [16:19] <aetherian> what are they
#1420 [16:20] <KA_Gamer> Unless you've done so.
#1421 [16:20] <Firehopper> level.dat_new
#1422 [16:20] <aetherian> level.dat, level.dat)old, and session.lock?
#1423 [16:20] <Firehopper> level.dat_old
#1424 [16:20] <aetherian> *level.dat/old
#1425 [16:20] <aetherian> ack
#1426 [16:20] <Firehopper> and session.loc
#1427 [16:20] * aetherian fails
#1427 [16:20] <Firehopper> err lock.
#1428 [16:20] <aetherian> wtf is level.dat_new?
#1429 [16:20] <SkiingPenguins> ummm... voxelhead looks like it assumes .minecraft is in %appdata% but for me on win7 it is in %appdata%\roaming\.minecraft
#1430 [16:20] <aetherian> .-.
#1431 [16:20] * KA_Gamer needs to know how to manually convert map files.
#1431 [16:21] <aetherian> ka:
#1432 [16:21] <aetherian> well
#1433 [16:21] <nevercast> DERP
#1434 [16:21] <aetherian> hey tech people
#1435 [16:21] <nevercast> I kept trying service minecraft start
#1436 [16:21] <aetherian> kealper, voxel, and the like, what's level.dat_new?
#1437 [16:21] <nevercast> it kept saying it wasn't starting
#1438 [16:21] <KA_Gamer> VoxelHead can be stupid.
#1439 [16:21] <nevercast> I ps aux
#1440 [16:21] <nevercast> there is like 2 servers running
#1441 [16:21] <nevercast> it's like.. LOLWAT
#1442 [16:22] <aetherian> I shall eb back
#1443 [16:22] <nevercast> fixed
#1444 [16:23] <KA_Gamer> Level.dat_new is probably something to do with conversion.
#1445 [16:23] <Firehopper> when I went from 1.2.x to 1.3 it wanted to convert stuff
#1446 [16:24] <KA_Gamer> Did you let it?
#1447 [16:24] <Firehopper> wish I would have backed this stuff up
#1448 [16:24] <Firehopper> Yes
#1449 [16:24] <Firehopper> and it was running fine.. till minecraft crashed the entire computer.
#1450 [16:24] <raiders> @KA_Gamer the error im having isnt normal, get the whole story first
#1451 [16:25] <Firehopper> now its not appearing in the game list..
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#1454 [16:25] <KA_Gamer> sorry raiders, I didn't realize I was addressing your issue
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#1457 [16:26] <aetherian> back
#1458 [16:29] <KA_Gamer> welcome
#1459 [16:30] * Firehopper sighs. guess I have to start over :(
#1459 [16:30] <aetherian> Firehopper: notch has warned us of that
#1460 [16:30] <KA_Gamer> Yeah, sorry, I don't think you can get it back any way.
#1461 [16:30] <aetherian> in zombo- I mean, in beta, anything can happen.
#1462 [16:31] <Firehopper> I should have backed it up..
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#1464 [16:31] <Blood_display> Anyone here? o;
#1465 [16:31] <Firehopper> just didnt think a complete hard crash could do that..
#1466 [16:31] <KA_Gamer> Thanks, now I'm gonna back my files up!
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#1468 [16:31] <Blood_display> Any Operators on?
#1469 [16:31] <aetherian> yes
#1470 [16:32] <aetherian> I think, anyway
#1471 [16:32] <aetherian> and even if not
#1472 [16:32] <aetherian> the ops aren't the only ones who help
#1473 [16:32] <nevercast> AG_Scott.
#1474 [16:33] <nevercast> eh, aetherian. Know much on cronjobs?
#1475 [16:33] <aetherian> what about them?
#1476 [16:33] <nevercast> Is it best to su into minecraft user and create a cronjob in there?
#1477 [16:33] <aetherian> uhh
#1478 [16:33] <aetherian> well, you see
#1479 [16:33] <aetherian> I can't rightfully say
#1480 [16:33] <aetherian> I use windows, see.
#1481 [16:34] <nevercast> uhh.
#1482 [16:34] <aetherian> that's why I'm always DCing
#1483 [16:34] <AG_Scott> nevercast, add the cronjob to the user you want it executed as
#1484 [16:34] <nevercast> AG_Scott, They will execute even if no session with that user is active?
#1485 [16:34] <AG_Scott> yes
#1486 [16:34] <KA_Gamer> Everyone, back up map files now!
#1487 [16:35] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#1488 [16:35] <aetherian> KA_Gamer: nah
#1489 [16:35] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Do I have to quote a command with spaces?
#1490 [16:35] <nevercast> just wondering if, 0 */2 * * * service minecraft backup
#1491 [16:36] <nevercast> will be fine.. or I'll need to quote it.
#1492 [16:36] <AG_Scott> no you don't
#1493 [16:36] <nevercast> okay thanks.
#1494 [16:36] <Firehopper> I recovered it.. :)
#1495 [16:36] <Firehopper> cheaty way but recovered it
#1496 [16:36] <KA_Gamer> How'd you do it?
#1497 [16:36] <nevercast> aetherian, think two ours is often enough for a map backup?
#1498 [16:36] <Firehopper> started a new game
#1499 [16:37] <raiders> 500 tnt = bad idea
#1500 [16:37] <aetherian> ...
#1501 [16:37] <KA_Gamer> Nope.
#1502 [16:37] <nevercast> *hours
#1503 [16:37] <aetherian> nevercast: I don't need to backup. windows, see. haven't had a problem yet.
#1504 [16:37] <Firehopper> copyed files from game I wanted to get back into the directory for the new game :)
#1505 [16:37] <nevercast> aetherian, I mean for my minecraft map silly
#1506 [16:37] <aetherian> yeah, that's what I meant
#1507 [16:37] <aetherian> ...
#1508 [16:37] <Firehopper> now to get a new backup soft updated for 1.3..
#1509 [16:37] <nevercast> I'm running a server, it's stupid to rely on software to hold it's own
#1510 [16:37] <nevercast> I need backups
#1511 [16:38] <Firehopper> the program I was using isnt workign on 1.3 anymore
#1512 [16:38] <nevercast> How frequent is frequent enough?
#1513 [16:38] <nevercast> Too often, you waste space.. too late and you lose lots of changes
#1514 [16:38] <aetherian> just get a good autobacking external drive
#1515 [16:38] <nevercast> ...
#1516 [16:38] <aetherian> and set to to back up your server
#1517 [16:38] <nevercast> aetherian, you're a noob. Why do I ask you shit
#1518 [16:38] <KA_Gamer> Depends on how much and often you build.
#1519 [16:38] <SkiingPenguins> LOL
#1520 [16:38] <aetherian> lol
#1521 [16:38] <aetherian> I have no idea, never
#1522 [16:39] <SkiingPenguins> nevercast why not every 10 minutes?
#1523 [16:39] <aetherian> ^
#1524 [16:39] <aetherian> every 5 is better
#1525 [16:39] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins, Because then I'm going to have to impliement something to flush out really old backups to save sapce
#1526 [16:39] <nevercast> Also, frequent map backups causes lag
#1527 [16:39] <aetherian> not if the computer's good enough
#1528 [16:39] <nevercast> aetherian, quiet.
#1529 [16:39] <KA_Gamer> Sounds good to me. Even if you miss thirty mins in minecraft, you'll still be ticked.
#1530 [16:40] <nevercast> hmm.
#1531 [16:40] <nevercast> 15 minutes then?
#1532 [16:40] <aetherian> 3
#1533 [16:40] <nevercast> Most people spend 15 minutes talking
#1534 [16:40] <nevercast> aetherian, shut up :P
#1535 [16:40] <SkiingPenguins> i dont backup my maps and i regularily delete them
#1536 [16:40] <aetherian> nevercast: no.
#1537 [16:40] <SkiingPenguins> they get boring after a while
#1538 [16:40] <KA_Gamer> Ok....
#1539 [16:40] <nevercast> lol. so true
#1540 [16:40] <nevercast> but it's a server
#1541 [16:40] <nevercast> so I wont be the only person online
#1542 [16:40] <aetherian> maybe 1 minute, if you're running a good server
#1543 [16:41] <nevercast> aetherian, I'm not :)
#1544 [16:41] <aetherian> oh, well then
#1545 [16:41] <KA_Gamer> SP: play on servers, its much more fun.
#1546 [16:41] <aetherian> you are running a lightweight distro for your server, right?
#1547 [16:41] <nevercast> aetherian, Not really lol.
#1548 [16:41] <nevercast> aetherian, Ubuntu 10.04 isn't exactly light
#1549 [16:41] <aetherian> .-.
#1550 [16:41] <aetherian> get tinycore, then
#1551 [16:42] <AG_Scott> <aetherian> nevercast: I don't need to backup. windows, see. haven't had a problem yet.
#1552 [16:42] <Sadhill> on minecraft you can level up ?
#1553 [16:42] <AG_Scott> Did you really just say you don't need to backup because you use windows?
#1554 [16:42] <aetherian> no
#1555 [16:42] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Looks like it
#1556 [16:42] <Blood_display> Ugh
#1557 [16:42] <Blood_display> Anyone wanna come to my IRC?
#1558 [16:42] <aetherian> intentional sarcasm for sake of provoking laughter
#1559 [16:42] <Blood_display> Free Op
#1560 [16:42] <Blood_display> >.> Free Op on my channel
#1561 [16:42] <aetherian> but I gotta go now
#1562 [16:42] <nevercast> Blood_display, lol.. if everyone is op.. no one is op
#1563 [16:42] <aetherian> nevercast: no
#1564 [16:42] <aetherian> ops can ban ops
#1565 [16:42] <Blood_display> What? o.o
#1566 [16:43] <nevercast> aetherian, so enters a troll, and channel is trashed
#1567 [16:43] <Blood_display> I
#1568 [16:43] <Blood_display> I am bored..
#1569 [16:43] <KA_Gamer> nd the channel name? you should say that part. And this is really getting off topic from help.
#1570 [16:43] <aetherian> nevercast: exactly
#1571 [16:43] <Blood_display> Anyone here got a iCraft?
#1572 [16:43] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, Off topic is okay if no one needs help
#1573 [16:44] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, You think Tech Support stares blankly at the computer while waiting for a phone call?
#1574 [16:44] <Blood_display> Talking about help, anyone need help?
#1575 [16:44] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, They probably kick it back on the desk and chat to the surrounding employees
#1576 [16:44] <Blood_display> Lol.
#1577 [16:44] <Blood_display> That reminds me..
#1578 [16:44] <KA_Gamer> Depends on company.
#1579 [16:44] <Blood_display> I gotta practice HTML later to help Tyteen4a03 with his fourms.
#1580 [16:44] <nevercast> #minecrafthelp isn't a company
#1581 [16:44] <nevercast> so no policies beyond rules
#1582 [16:45] <Blood_display> >:)
#1583 [16:45] <Kealper> as someone who has done tech support before, (and does it right here in this channel) i can say that is exactly what tech support does when no one needs help
#1584 [16:45] <KA_Gamer> OK.
#1585 [16:45] <nevercast> Kealper, stare at the screen?
#1586 [16:45] <Kealper> nevercast: no, socialize lol
#1587 [16:45] <nevercast> Of course! lol.
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#1589 [16:46] <Kealper> my new headset is so amazing....i was just playing some car audio sub test tracks....played em like a champ
#1590 [16:46] <KA_Gamer> I get it. But if someone needs help, we gotta help em. I'm afraid a help request will be buried by convorsation.
#1591 [16:46] <Draglems1> Can creepers climb ladders?
#1592 [16:46] <Kealper> Draglems1: yes
#1593 [16:46] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, People that need help normally start with 'mib_'
#1594 [16:46] <Draglems1> can Someone give me a alternative route
#1595 [16:46] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, easy to stop
#1596 [16:47] <nevercast> *spot
#1597 [16:47] <Kealper> Draglems1: make the ladder have missing peices in it
#1598 [16:47] <Draglems1> on how the FUCK i can get out of my house?
#1599 [16:47] <nevercast> Draglems1, lol what?
#1600 [16:47] <Draglems1> but I'm at the top of my roof(inside)
#1601 [16:47] <Draglems1> and I don't have anywhere else to go.
#1602 [16:47] <nevercast> Draglems1, fight the creeper
#1603 [16:47] <Draglems1> and if i get rid of peices of the ladder..I won't be able to get down without dying..
#1604 [16:47] <Draglems1> ..With my fists?
#1605 [16:47] <Draglems1> You mad?
#1606 [16:47] <nevercast> Draglems1, get out your sword and fight
#1607 [16:47] <nevercast> You don't have a sword?
#1608 [16:47] <Draglems1> It broke. =D
#1609 [16:47] <Kealper> Draglems1: you can climb over single gaps in ladders, mobs can;t
#1610 [16:47] <Draglems1> I was actually on the way to my crafting bench
#1611 [16:47] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: make a bow; those don't break.
#1612 [16:48] <Draglems1> to make diamond stuff
#1613 [16:48] <Draglems1> and then.. well..forgot i left door open..
#1614 [16:48] <Draglems1> I don't have string.
#1615 [16:48] <nevercast> My castle has turrets :D
#1616 [16:48] <Draglems1> I do.. but..
#1617 [16:48] <nevercast> Only they don't rotate :(
#1618 [16:48] <Draglems1> ..Well..
#1619 [16:48] <nevercast> but they all fire flaming arrows :D
#1620 [16:48] <Draglems1> I can't get the string..
#1621 [16:48] <Draglems1> ..Its in a chest on a seperate island..
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#1623 [16:49] <Blood_display> Aetherian
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#1625 [16:49] * relsqui peeks out at a creeper through ground-level windows
#1625 [16:49] <Blood_display> Aetherian
#1626 [16:49] <KA_Gamer> Remember, we don't know what your map looks like, at least most of us don't Draglems1
#1627 [16:49] <Draglems1> What has that got to dow ith anything?
#1628 [16:49] * relsqui shrugs, goes about business, it's not going in
#1628 [16:49] <Draglems1> and its using the "..erm" seed.
#1629 [16:49] <Kealper> Draglems1: really? lol
#1630 [16:49] <Draglems1> Yeah.
#1631 [16:49] <Kealper> xD
#1632 [16:49] <Draglems1> ..erm makes everything Snow.
#1633 [16:49] <Blood_display> >.>
#1634 [16:49] <Kealper> i must try this
#1635 [16:50] <Draglems1> for me, anyway.
#1636 [16:50] <Draglems1> and theres like.
#1637 [16:50] <Draglems1> only 1 dungeon =D.
#1638 [16:50] <dopeghoti> Everything? Or just a large spawn-centric snow biome?
#1639 [16:50] <Draglems1> ..which is RIGHT under my house.
#1640 [16:50] <Draglems1> I believe all biomes are snow.
#1641 [16:50] <Kealper> woh
#1642 [16:50] <Kealper> big winter biome that it starts in
#1643 [16:50] <Draglems1> because I used MCedit and i couldn't find any other parts o3o
#1644 [16:50] <Kealper> right by a frozen ocean
#1645 [16:50] <Draglems1> Yeaaah..
#1646 [16:50] <Draglems1> if you dig in the ground somewhere
#1647 [16:50] <Draglems1> you'll find a dungeon.
#1648 [16:51] <Kealper> neat....
#1649 [16:51] <Draglems1> This is like..
#1650 [16:51] <Draglems1> the 100th time i've found abiome like this
#1651 [16:51] <Draglems1> by just typing small words.
#1652 [16:51] <KA_Gamer> Thanks for the info.
#1653 [16:51] <TheNytangel> i cant wait until dopeghoti is going to help me tonight :)
#1654 [16:52] <Draglems1> WOW
#1655 [16:52] <Draglems1> CREEPER IS A CHEATERRR
#1656 [16:52] <Draglems1> It jumped into my 2nd floor
#1657 [16:52] <dopeghoti> sorry about yesterday, TheNytangel; got trapped at work.
#1658 [16:52] <Draglems1> then jumped out
#1659 [16:52] <Draglems1> and poofed right at the top.
#1660 [16:52] <Draglems1> managed to hit it and it fell down.
#1661 [16:52] <TheNytangel> yeah.. and i had to go so you wouldnt have been able to help me anyway :/
#1662 [16:52] <TheNytangel> but tonight i can be on later
#1663 [16:52] <TheNytangel> so ill wait as long as i need to
#1664 [16:53] <KA_Gamer> Creepers explode. You dig to find dungeons, and you can see grass.
#1665 [16:53] <Blood_display> Sup pplz.
#1666 [16:54] <nevercast> There is a Dungeon on Kealpers Server
#1667 [16:54] <nevercast> I can't get to it though
#1668 [16:54] <nevercast> It's protected by spawn area :D
#1669 [16:54] <Blood_display> Mmk..
#1670 [16:54] <Kealper> lol
#1671 [16:54] <Blood_display> If I told every here something
#1672 [16:54] <Blood_display> they would leave in 2 seconds.
#1673 [16:54] <Blood_display> XDC
#1674 [16:54] <Blood_display> XD
#1675 [16:54] <relsqui> don't flatter yourself.
#1676 [16:54] <Kealper> owned
#1677 [16:54] <Draglems1> Phew.
#1678 [16:55] <Draglems1> managed to get the 4 creepers out of my house.
#1679 [16:55] <Blood_display> Damn you AuBot!
#1680 [16:55] <nevercast> Draglems1, TNT?
#1681 [16:55] <Kealper> DENIED
#1682 [16:55] <nevercast> TNT in your house is great for mobs
#1683 [16:55] <Draglems1> no.
#1684 [16:55] <Draglems1> Another crafting table i made.
#1685 [16:55] <Kealper> nevercast: doens't end well for the house though lol
#1686 [16:55] <nevercast> Not great for your house though
#1687 [16:55] <Blood_display> >:)
#1688 [16:55] <Kealper> ninja'd
#1689 [16:55] <nevercast> yea Kealper lol
#1690 [16:55] <Draglems1> I made a wooden sword.
#1691 [16:55] <Draglems1> iron*
#1692 [16:56] <nevercast> Draglems1, Now go get DIAMOND :D
#1693 [16:56] <Draglems1> Aye!
#1694 [16:56] <Blood_display> Aye
#1695 [16:57] <nevercast> Kealper, How often does your server backup?
#1696 [16:58] <Draglems1> btw Kealper
#1697 [16:58] <Draglems1> i got banned on your server =/
#1698 [16:58] <nevercast> LOL
#1699 [16:58] <Kealper> it's got a mirrored folder that is updated every 5 min, and from that mirrored folder there are hourly backups that are erased after they are old than 24 hours, a daily backyp that is done at midnight, then a weekly that is done every monday
#1700 [16:58] <nevercast> Draglems1, Come to my server :)
#1701 [16:58] <Draglems1> sure.
#1702 [16:58] <Draglems1> when its up.
#1703 [16:58] <Kealper> how does one get banned from my server?
#1704 [16:58] <nevercast> Draglems1, It is up
#1705 [16:59] <Draglems1> I mean when i can log in.
#1706 [16:59] <Draglems1> er
#1707 [16:59] <Draglems1> some people kept calling me a noob.
#1708 [16:59] <nevercast> Draglems1, You can login
#1709 [16:59] <Draglems1> and Yeah, a fight started..
#1710 [16:59] <Draglems1> Oh yeah, on the browser.
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#1712 [16:59] <nevercast> Draglems1, No
#1713 [16:59] <Draglems1> ?
#1714 [16:59] <nevercast> Draglems1, from your desktop
#1715 [16:59] <Draglems1> It says
#1716 [16:59] <Kealper> lemme guess....that person you were arguing with was Thoatt?
#1717 [16:59] <Draglems1> "Can't login"
#1718 [16:59] <Draglems1> and Yes, Throatt.
#1719 [16:59] <Kealper> no r...lol
#1720 [16:59] <Kealper> yeah....he's not the kindest of creatures
#1721 [17:00] <Draglems1> Could i be unbanned?
#1722 [17:00] <Kealper> username?
#1723 [17:00] <nevercast> Draglems1, want my server?
#1724 [17:00] <Draglems1> nathanmarck
#1725 [17:00] <Draglems1> Yes, i do.
#1726 [17:00] <nevercast> Draglems1, 209.236.121.210
#1727 [17:01] <nevercast> Draglems1, Connect how you do normally. Not browser.
#1728 [17:02] <Kealper> ok, you're unbanned from mine, but nevercast's is probably going to be less laggy
#1729 [17:02] <Draglems1> lolnope
#1730 [17:02] <Kealper> his is more laggy?
#1731 [17:02] <Draglems1> 100 days to send a message.
#1732 [17:02] <Kealper> nevercast: how does your server suck more than mine?
#1733 [17:03] <Draglems1> wow
#1734 [17:03] <Draglems1> like
#1735 [17:03] <Draglems1> 1minute just for 3 message..
#1736 [17:03] <dopeghoti> 100 days? Right.
#1737 [17:04] <Blood_display> :(
#1738 [17:04] <Blood_display> *Sigh,* nothing lasts forever. :(
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#1740 [17:06] <Draglems1> basically kicked me out .-.
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#1745 [17:11] <Draglems1> I lagged too much
#1746 [17:11] <Draglems1> it spent so long just for a few letters to get in.
#1747 [17:11] <Blood_display> fgrfr
#1748 [17:11] <Blood_display> fefe
#1749 [17:11] <Blood_display> fefe
#1750 [17:11] <Kealper> it was fine for me....where are you at?
#1751 [17:11] <nevercast> Draglems1, that's your shit internet
#1752 [17:12] <Draglems1> Shouldn't be for me =/
#1753 [17:12] <Draglems1> Shouldn't be my net =/
#1754 [17:12] <nevercast> I'm in New Zealand, Worlds shitty net central.. and that's in the other hemisphere!
#1755 [17:12] <Draglems1> because i can run any other games fine
#1756 [17:12] <Blood_display> Mmk
#1757 [17:12] <Blood_display> </3
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#1759 [17:12] <hrld> Hello! I use the /give-commands to get my items and blocks. But what i dont understand is how i get the different kinds of blocks. For instance; How do i get the birch-version of wood? If i type "/give <nick> 17 64" i get 64 of the original wood. How do i get the two others using /give?
#1760 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Can't
#1761 [17:13] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, lol what really?
#1762 [17:13] <nevercast> bug
#1763 [17:13] * nevercast is afk
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#1764 [17:13] <Draglems1> Is there a way i can throw items away?
#1765 [17:13] <Draglems1> without having to drop them?
#1766 [17:13] <Kealper> throw them into lava? lol
#1767 [17:13] <hrld> GreyVulpine: was that to me?
#1768 [17:13] <nevercast> Draglems1, Drop them into Lava
#1769 [17:14] <Draglems1> and if you're no where near lava?
#1770 [17:14] <nevercast> Draglems1, a fire will burn some items too
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#1772 [17:14] <Draglems1> got no flint&steel
#1773 [17:14] <Zuperfreak> When hosting a beta server, is it possible to force the loading of the old level.dat?
#1774 [17:14] <nevercast> Mine some flint and gravel
#1775 [17:14] <nevercast> err
#1776 [17:14] <nevercast> iron and gravel
#1777 [17:14] <Kealper> Zuperfreak: no, it has to use the new region format
#1778 [17:14] <nevercast> Kealper, Region format seems to be smaller and more tidy.. I do like it
#1779 [17:15] <Zuperfreak> so for each reboot of the server, you have to use a newly generated level?
#1780 [17:15] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, no lol.
#1781 [17:15] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, It uses the last world
#1782 [17:15] <nevercast> Like a server always does
#1783 [17:15] <Zuperfreak> maybe i phrased my question wrong. lol
#1784 [17:15] <Kealper> nevercast: yeah, it makes map backups take a few seconds...they could take up to like 2 minutes on my server lol
#1785 [17:16] <Zuperfreak> nay, my friend and i played lastnight, booted it again today and it was a new world
#1786 [17:16] <nevercast> Kealper, Yeah I noticed that
#1787 [17:16] <nevercast> Kealper, I did $ cp -r ~/server/world ~/craftbukkit/world
#1788 [17:16] <nevercast> before
#1789 [17:16] <nevercast> To copy the world into bukkit.. it was done instantly
#1790 [17:16] <nevercast> I actually ran it twice
#1791 [17:16] <Zuperfreak> I have level.dat and level.dat_old
#1792 [17:16] <nevercast> I didn't think it worked
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#1794 [17:17] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, Do you have a folder called region
#1795 [17:17] <nevercast> and probably also players
#1796 [17:17] <Zuperfreak> yes, in the world folder
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#1798 [17:18] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, that's your world lol.
#1799 [17:18] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, but level.dat describes that world.. so you'll need that too
#1800 [17:18] <nevercast> world/region is your map data
#1801 [17:18] <nevercast> world/level.dat is your 'index' file so to speak ( but not really )
#1802 [17:18] <nevercast> world/players is all the player info
#1803 [17:19] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, copying those items will backup your world.
#1804 [17:19] <Zuperfreak> alright.. so, where is my old map data? :P
#1805 [17:19] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, What old map data?
#1806 [17:19] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, world/region is current.
#1807 [17:19] <Zuperfreak> the items i made lastnight in my world are gone.
#1808 [17:19] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, maybe the server lagged and then died
#1809 [17:19] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, not saving your shit
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#1812 [17:20] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, OR your players folder was moved
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#1814 [17:20] <Zuperfreak> nah, probably the lag
#1815 [17:20] <Zuperfreak> cause.... There was a surgelastnight
#1816 [17:20] <nevercast> I'm afk anyway.. Zuperfreak. Hit Kealper up if you need anything more.. He's Tech Support Gold :)
#1817 [17:20] <Kealper> Zuperfreak: computer shut down?
#1818 [17:20] <Zuperfreak> I gotta get an UPS :P
#1819 [17:20] <Draglems1> is it poossible to do the booster glitch(make a cart fall on another card) repeatidly, to make a Cart that will travel 100 blocks in 3 seconds?
#1820 [17:20] <Zuperfreak> Thanks for the help :)
#1821 [17:20] <Draglems1> if you repeat it repeatidly?
#1822 [17:20] <relsqui> Draglems1: carts have a maximum speed
#1823 [17:20] <relsqui> if they hit it, they loop around
#1824 [17:20] <relsqui> and lose momentum
#1825 [17:20] <Kealper> Zuperfreak: yeah, that'd do it...if the server is not stopped properly it could lead to loss of map/player data :/
#1826 [17:21] <Draglems1> Er.
#1827 [17:21] <Draglems1> then how come this cart never slows down?
#1828 [17:21] <nevercast> Draglems1, it is..
#1829 [17:21] <Zuperfreak> so, i run my server with nohup java <command>
#1830 [17:21] <nevercast> Draglems1, just it's going so fast it's got plenty velocity
#1831 [17:21] <Draglems1> It is possible or it is slowing down?
#1832 [17:21] <Draglems1> Oh./
#1833 [17:21] <Zuperfreak> is there a way I can me it a script on boot?
#1834 [17:21] <Draglems1> Yes.
#1835 [17:21] <Draglems1> I think it'll work! =D
#1836 [17:21] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, yeah there is
#1837 [17:21] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, I just finished doing that myself
#1838 [17:21] <Zuperfreak> (Ubunti 10.04 p4 1.8)
#1839 [17:22] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, Yeah yeah.. Uhh one sec.
#1840 [17:22] <Zuperfreak> wb nevercast :)
#1841 [17:22] <nevercast> I'm not back lol.
#1842 [17:22] <nevercast> I've not left yet
#1843 [17:22] <Zuperfreak> lol
#1844 [17:22] <relsqui> so the auth server seems to be happier today ... is it safe to not leave the client open all the time?
#1845 [17:22] <nevercast> Uhh one sce
#1846 [17:22] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_startup_script
#1847 [17:22] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, Couple changes to paths and the INVOCATION var.. will have you right as rain
#1848 [17:22] <Kealper> relsqui: mollstam whispered sweet nothings to the database server, it seems content for now
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#1850 [17:22] <relsqui> XD
#1851 [17:23] <relsqui> cool.
#1852 [17:23] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, That script is for Debian base.. which Ubuntu is.. so it's pretty much awesome
#1853 [17:23] <nevercast> Kealper, haha
#1854 [17:23] * relsqui closes it, does homework
#1854 [17:23] <Zuperfreak> yes it is ;)
#1855 [17:23] <nevercast> Zuperfreak, I removed the update from mine though.. I prefer manual updates
#1856 [17:23] * nevercast is ACTUALLY away now.
#1856 [17:23] <Zuperfreak> how do you even update the server? I just thought to go download it :P (minecraft i mean)
#1857 [17:24] <Draglems1> Also i wasn't talking about the booster glitch
#1858 [17:24] <Draglems1> which makes the carts go in loops.
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#1860 [17:24] <Zuperfreak> and cool, it's setup to execute from the mc user already :D
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#1862 [17:25] <Zuperfreak> thanks!
#1863 [17:25] <Fart> hi
#1864 [17:25] <Fart> Who can hear me?
#1865 [17:25] <Kealper> everyone
#1866 [17:25] <Zuperfreak> though, one more question, how would I stop the server the right way?
#1867 [17:25] <Fart> Oh.
#1868 [17:26] <Kealper> lemme guess, wondering why you can't talk in #minecraft?
#1869 [17:27] <Zuperfreak> nevermind, read it on the site :P
#1870 [17:27] <Zuperfreak> thanks yall :)
#1871 [17:28] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper - "Just finished my security system for my humble abode
#1871 [17:28] <Kealper> :o
#1872 [17:28] * Kealper looks
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#1873 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> If they don't use the "super secret" key, it triggers a happy little surprise down the corridor
#1874 [17:28] <Kealper> lol
#1875 [17:28] <AG_Scott> Some people are so gullible.
#1876 [17:29] <Kealper> is there an NDA saying you can't say why? or is this one wide-open? lol
#1877 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1878 [17:29] <Zuperfreak> lol
#1879 [17:30] <AG_Scott> and the worst part is, this guy is a mod on mcforums :<
#1880 [17:30] <Kealper> ._.
#1881 [17:30] <AG_Scott> He buys a VPS from a reseller and orders it without any of the stuff they add. He could just get it cheaper directly from the company they're reselling.
#1882 [17:31] <AG_Scott> and he's well aware of who they're reselling.
#1883 [17:31] <Kealper> AG? lol
#1884 [17:31] <AG_Scott> No.
#1885 [17:31] <Kealper> oh..lol
#1886 [17:31] <AG_Scott> A crappy British company.
#1887 [17:32] <AG_Scott> Notoriously reviewed bad on every industry forum...
#1888 [17:32] <Draglems1> What is the point in monster spawners?
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#1890 [17:32] <Draglems1> Also, why do Hacked mob spawners only spawn Pigs? <_>
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#1892 [17:33] <dopeghoti> AG_Scott: that's.. horrifying
#1893 [17:33] <BurnZeZ> What is?
#1894 [17:33] <BurnZeZ> Repeat?
#1895 [17:33] <dopeghoti> tl;wr.
#1896 [17:33] <BurnZeZ> :I
#1897 [17:35] <AG_Scott> It's horrifying they have such mods.
#1898 [17:35] <AG_Scott> Maybe that explains why the posts I report never get deleted.
#1899 [17:35] <dopeghoti> The fora themselves are horrifying enough.
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#1901 [17:37] <Draglems1> Best way to get flaming arrows?
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#1903 [17:38] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: fire arrows through magma.
#1904 [17:38] <Draglems1> ...
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#1906 [17:38] <Draglems1> How do i get Magma STANDING?
#1907 [17:38] <Draglems1> is pretty much what i'm asking..
#1908 [17:38] <megadud> hey, i just walled art a part of my ocean... im doing a legitamate world (no hacking in supplies or map editing...) whats the easiest way to get rid of the water?
#1909 [17:39] <Draglems1> bucket.
#1910 [17:39] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: s/STANDING/falling/
#1911 [17:39] <megadud> your kidding
#1912 [17:39] <Draglems1> I don't want the magma to fall down
#1913 [17:39] <Draglems1> in physics
#1914 [17:39] <sardo97> hell
#1915 [17:39] <dopeghoti> megadud: sand or gravel dumped in from the sirface.
#1916 [17:39] <sardo97> hello*
#1917 [17:39] <dopeghoti> megadud: once it's filled with sand or gravel, dig it back out; done and done
#1918 [17:39] <megadud> ahhh. will i have to completely fill it?
#1919 [17:40] <dopeghoti> megadud: if you want it to be dry.. yes.
#1920 [17:40] <relsqui> Draglems1: magma is a fluid. it flows, unless it's totally contained
#1921 [17:40] <megadud> darn... well, thisll be a fun 20 hours...
#1922 [17:40] <relsqui> if you want to shoot arrows through it, you can't totally contain it :P
#1923 [17:40] <Draglems1> but if its not fully contaiined, magma/lava will stiill pour out.
#1924 [17:40] <relsqui> yes.
#1925 [17:41] <relsqui> it's a fluid.
#1926 [17:41] <relsqui> it flows.
#1927 [17:41] <Draglems1> I want ti to prevnt htat.
#1928 [17:41] <Draglems1> that*
#1929 [17:41] <relsqui> if you want lava that doesn't flow, you would have to cool it enough to harden it
#1930 [17:41] <Draglems1> and don't say it aint possible, because it is possible =/ i played someone elses world and it was like that.
#1931 [17:41] <Draglems1> how do you cool ti?
#1932 [17:41] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: water.
#1933 [17:41] <relsqui> pouring water on it, for example
#1934 [17:41] <Draglems1> That makes obsidan
#1935 [17:41] <relsqui> yes.
#1936 [17:41] <relsqui> that is what happens when you cool lava enough to harden it.
#1937 [17:41] <Draglems1> But i want MAGMA t.
#1938 [17:41] <relsqui> that is how you make a fluid not flow.
#1939 [17:42] <relsqui> you either contain it, or you solidify it.
#1940 [17:42] <Draglems1> but i want MAGMA which can be used to make a tower to make fire arrows.
#1941 [17:42] <dopeghoti> water:ice::magma:obsidian
#1942 [17:42] <relsqui> yes, I understand exactly what you want
#1943 [17:42] <relsqui> and you are not understanding that your question makes no sense :P
#1944 [17:42] <Draglems1> ..
#1945 [17:42] <Draglems1> but i played SOMEONE ELSES WORLD
#1946 [17:42] <relsqui> you could put a ladder under it
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#1948 [17:42] <Draglems1> ..?
#1949 [17:42] <relsqui> a ladder is sufficient containment to hold the lava up
#1950 [17:42] <relsqui> but it LOOKS uncontained
#1951 [17:43] <Mod_Epic> i need help
#1952 [17:43] <Draglems1> It wasn't contained!!
#1953 [17:43] <relsqui> was it just .... hovering?
#1954 [17:43] <Draglems1> it was a HUGE block of lava which i could run through!!
#1955 [17:43] <relsqui> wait
#1956 [17:43] <Draglems1> No, it was touching the floor.
#1957 [17:43] <relsqui> you could run through the lava? XD
#1958 [17:43] <Draglems1> YES.
#1959 [17:43] <Draglems1> It was like
#1960 [17:43] <relsqui> did you not, um, catch on fire?
#1961 [17:43] <Draglems1> 20x20
#1962 [17:43] <Mod_Epic> i cant play minecraft can any one help?
#1963 [17:43] <Draglems1> I did, i ran into water.
#1964 [17:43] <relsqui> Mod_Epic: you're going to have to ask a specific question to get some help
#1965 [17:44] <relsqui> Draglems1: it was either flowing or it was contained. that is the way that physics in minecraft work.
#1966 [17:44] <Draglems1> No, it wasn't flowing
#1967 [17:44] <relsqui> Draglems1: you can contradict it all you want but it won't make it any less true.
#1968 [17:44] <Draglems1> nor was it contained.
#1969 [17:44] <Draglems1> Okay
#1970 [17:44] <Draglems1> wait there, let me try and find the god damn world.
#1971 [17:44] <Draglems1> So you can LISTEN.
#1972 [17:44] <Mod_Epic> windows said that my nividia card driver was already up to date but i still cant play minecraft, what should i do?
#1973 [17:44] <Draglems1> SEE*
#1974 [17:44] <relsqui> Mod_Epic: what happens when you try?
#1975 [17:44] <Mod_Epic> minecraft says i have a bad card driver, (i dont)
#1976 [17:44] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: you might want to take a breath or something and check your attitude here. The people helping you are volunteers, and you are not entitled to any help.
#1977 [17:45] <relsqui> what's the card?
#1978 [17:45] <Mod_Epic> nividia
#1979 [17:45] <dopeghoti> ??> Mod_Epic gpu/nvidia
#1980 [17:45] <relsqui> yes. that is the brand. what nvidia card is it?
#1981 [17:45] <VoxelHead> Mod_Epic: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1982 [17:45] <relsqui> dopeghoti: allegedly the drivers are up to date.
#1983 [17:45] <Mod_Epic> GeForce
#1984 [17:45] <dopeghoti> "Trust, but verify."
#1985 [17:45] <Draglems1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-5pKLELiQw&feature=related THIIIIIIIS
#1986 [17:45] <lemon-rev> mod_epic have you tryed playing from the website ?
#1987 [17:45] <relsqui> Mod_Epic: okay, you're one step closer. got a model?\
#1988 [17:45] <Draglems1> Sorry for my tone.
#1989 [17:46] <Draglems1> its just when I'm trying to EXPLAIN something and I KNOW what i'm saying.
#1990 [17:46] <Draglems1> and yeah..I get like that.
#1991 [17:46] <sardo97> Omg, there is a squid flying over a mountain in a server im on... LOL!
#1992 [17:46] <relsqui> Draglems1: that is a picture of flowing lava.
#1993 [17:46] <Mod_Epic> 6150 Se nForce 430
#1994 [17:46] <relsqui> Draglems1: see how it's moving downwards?
#1995 [17:46] <Draglems1> Wait.
#1996 [17:46] <lemon-rev> mod_epic onboard video ?
#1997 [17:46] <Draglems1> I didn't see the video because i'm laggy
#1998 [17:47] <Draglems1> but i found it..I can't remember if thats the video thugh.
#1999 [17:47] <Mod_Epic> lemon, what?
#2000 [17:47] <Draglems1> its falling downards but
#2001 [17:47] <relsqui> Draglems1: well, that is a large wall of lava which is flowing downwards
#2002 [17:47] <Kealper> lemon-rev: yes, old onboard at that
#2003 [17:47] <Draglems1> how do you get a large wall of it?
#2004 [17:47] <lemon-rev> ok kealper
#2005 [17:47] <Draglems1> how do you make it go downwards?
#2006 [17:47] <relsqui> Draglems1: you put a bunch of source blocks in a row at the top of where you want the wall
#2007 [17:47] <relsqui> Draglems1: it will go downwards by itself. because it flows. with gravity.
#2008 [17:47] <Draglems1> ...
#2009 [17:47] <Draglems1> So..
#2010 [17:47] <Draglems1> if i put lavain the air
#2011 [17:47] <Mod_Epic> so what do i do?
#2012 [17:47] <Draglems1> it'll just go into a single block and fall down?
#2013 [17:48] <relsqui> no. it doesn't FALL. it FLOWS. when you place a source block, the source block stays put
#2014 [17:48] <relsqui> but lava flows from the source block
#2015 [17:48] <relsqui> have you played with fluids much in minecraft beore?
#2016 [17:48] <Draglems1> You should know what i mean't
#2017 [17:48] <relsqui> if not, try experimenting with a water block to see how it works
#2018 [17:48] <Draglems1> it was a TYPO
#2019 [17:48] <dopeghoti> Draglems1: we are not telepaths.
#2020 [17:48] <Draglems1> ^You don't have to be.
#2021 [17:48] <relsqui> Draglems1: it was not clear whether you meant the thing which is correct, or the thing which is not correct
#2022 [17:48] <Draglems1> ^Sorry then.
#2023 [17:48] <relsqui> Draglems1: if you had meant the thing which is not correct, you might have used the same words
#2024 [17:48] <lemon-rev> mod_epic have you tryed playing the broswer version
#2025 [17:48] <dopeghoti> Falling and flowing are a> both words, and b> different words with distinct meanings.
#2026 [17:49] <relsqui> the only method I have available to understand your meaning is the words you choose.
#2027 [17:49] <Draglems1> Then the problem is?
#2028 [17:49] <Mod_Epic> no not yet
#2029 [17:49] <Draglems1> Oh, right.
#2030 [17:49] <lemon-rev> mod_epic can you please try
#2031 [17:49] <Draglems1> Didn't see b>
#2032 [17:49] <relsqui> Draglems1: anyway. is it any clearer how that works now?
#2033 [17:49] <Draglems1> Sorta...
#2034 [17:49] <Draglems1> I don't get how you get into a one block though.
#2035 [17:50] <Draglems1> that 'FLOWS' down
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#2037 [17:50] <relsqui> well--try getting yourself a bucket of water and experimenting with that
#2038 [17:50] <Draglems1> I want it to just be like []
#2039 [17:50] <Draglems1> FLOW..
#2040 [17:50] <relsqui> it makes way more sense when you're looking at it than when you're talking about it
#2041 [17:50] <Draglems1> Er.. I don't have a bucket.
#2042 [17:50] * aetherian facepalms
#2042 [17:50] <Draglems1> ^
#2043 [17:50] <relsqui> well, to acquire water or lava, you will need a bucket
#2044 [17:50] <relsqui> unless you're using /give I guess
#2045 [17:50] <Draglems1> I'm not online.
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#2048 [17:51] <relsqui> okay. I can try to just explain it, but it will be pretty difficult without you being able to see what I mean
#2049 [17:51] <kermie> hi i just got the update and i cant figure out what the Seed for World Generator is
#2050 [17:51] <Draglems1> ....
#2051 [17:51] <Mod_Epic> it's loading
#2052 [17:51] <Draglems1> You just put a random seed in..
#2053 [17:51] <lemon-rev> ok
#2054 [17:51] <relsqui> basically, when you have a bucket of water or lava wielded, and you right click somewhere, you place a "source" of that fluid
#2055 [17:51] <relsqui> the source is a stationary block
#2056 [17:52] <kermie> like what do u mean by seed
#2057 [17:52] <Draglems1> I know. that. but.. How exactly do you make it not seperate?
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#2059 [17:52] <Draglems1> Like, if you place it in the air, you got to place it on somewhere else.
#2060 [17:52] <relsqui> kermie: http://mojang.com/2011/02/23/a-short-demystification-of-the-map-seed/
#2061 [17:52] <Draglems1> and then.. it'll all fall down all sides.
#2062 [17:52] <relsqui> oh, I see
#2063 [17:52] <relsqui> just build a scaffold
#2064 [17:53] <Jackson413> bukkit really is getting nicfe
#2065 [17:53] <Draglems1> scaffold?
#2066 [17:53] <relsqui> temporary structure
#2067 [17:53] <Jackson413> so happy
#2068 [17:53] <relsqui> to hold the thing you're building, while you're building it, and then remove it
#2069 [17:53] <Draglems1> temporay structuer?
#2070 [17:53] <relsqui> temporary as in not permanent. structure as in arrangement of blocks.
#2071 [17:53] <Mod_Epic> i cant play the web browser
#2072 [17:53] <Draglems1> ?
#2073 [17:53] <relsqui> ...
#2074 [17:53] * nevercast has returned... jus sayin
#2074 [17:53] <relsqui> well, for example
#2075 [17:53] <Mod_Epic> says pixel format not accelerated
#2076 [17:53] <Kealper> .set mode relsqui +v
#2077 [17:53] <nevercast> Mod_Epic, update graphics drivers
#2078 [17:53] <relsqui> *g*
#2079 [17:53] <lemon-rev> mod_epic how well does it play in broswer
#2080 [17:53] <Mod_Epic> -.-
#2081 [17:54] <relsqui> Draglems1: let's say you built a row of blocks one square above where you want the top of your wall to be
#2082 [17:54] <Draglems1> Yes..?
#2083 [17:54] <Mod_Epic> i cant play browser or downloadable
#2084 [17:54] <relsqui> Draglems1: you could place a fluid source block on the *bottom* of each of those blocks
#2085 [17:54] <TheNytangel> dopeghoti, what time will you be home later?
#2086 [17:54] <relsqui> Draglems1: and then remove your temporary row of blocks
#2087 [17:54] <Draglems1> Oh yeah.
#2088 [17:54] <Mod_Epic> and windows says my graphics are up to date
#2089 [17:54] <dopeghoti> hopefully, around 1945
#2090 [17:54] <relsqui> then you'd just have the wall of fluid
#2091 [17:54] <Draglems1> i forgot you could do that..
#2092 [17:54] <Draglems1> Thanks!
#2093 [17:54] <Mod_Epic> -.-
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#2095 [17:54] <nevercast> relsqui, It wouldn't spread out?
#2096 [17:54] <relsqui> :)
#2097 [17:54] <Draglems1> Wait.
#2098 [17:54] <AG_Scott> Mod_Epic, Get drivers from Nvidia/ATI's site
#2099 [17:54] <relsqui> nevercast: not if you place the fluid block on the bottom of the scaffold, I don't *think*
#2100 [17:54] <Draglems1> Yeah , think it WOUDL spread?
#2101 [17:54] <nevercast> relsqui, I'm going to login to my server and try now :D
#2102 [17:54] <relsqui> I think if there's nothing all around or below it, it just falls straight down
#2103 [17:55] <relsqui> but yeah, try it, I'm not 100% sure
#2104 [17:55] <Mod_Epic> alright...
#2105 [17:55] <relsqui> if it did spread, you could build a slightly more complicated scaffold
#2106 [17:55] <relsqui> basically an upside-down trough
#2107 [17:55] <AG_Scott> Windows update won't have those updates.
#2108 [17:55] <relsqui> with the source blocks inside
#2109 [17:55] <relsqui> so it only CAN flow down
#2110 [17:55] <relsqui> and then it would keep flowing that way after you removed the scaffold
#2111 [17:56] <Draglems1> Nooo!
#2112 [17:56] <Draglems1> I can't find my home..
#2113 [17:56] <relsqui> in retrospect the easiest way to explain this would've been to make a video showing it
#2114 [17:56] <Kaito> does craftbukkit, by default, not allow ANYONE to destroy player placed blocks?
#2115 [17:56] <dopeghoti> ??> Kaito mods
#2116 [17:56] <VoxelHead> Kaito: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2117 [17:56] <VoxelHead> Kaito: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2118 [17:56] <relsqui> I don't actually have anything installed to take screen-captured video though
#2119 [17:56] * relsqui scratches head
#2119 [17:57] <dopeghoti> relsqui: Linux? GNOME? Try Kazaam.
#2120 [17:57] <relsqui> vista, actually >_>
#2121 [17:57] * relsqui ducks
#2121 [17:58] <relsqui> (IRCing from linux, but the machine I'm actually physically in front of is vista)
#2122 [17:58] * dopeghoti nods
#2122 [17:58] <nevercast> relsqui, it flow
#2123 [17:59] <nevercast> relsqui, I tried what you said..
#2124 [17:59] <nevercast> relsqui, I got washed into the ocean ^_^
#2125 [18:00] <relsqui> haha
#2126 [18:00] <relsqui> I can't tell if you mean it worked or didn't
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#2128 [18:03] <Mod_Epic> relsqui
#2129 [18:05] <relsqui> Mod_Epic: hm?
#2130 [18:06] <relsqui> anyone know offhand the variable for channel-I'm-currently-looking-at in irssi?
#2131 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> $channel?
#2132 [18:06] <dopeghoti> ^
#2133 [18:06] <relsqui> well that's intuitive. thanks.
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#2136 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> It's not *too* much different from mIRC scripting
#2137 [18:07] <relsqui> heh, wouldn't know
#2138 [18:07] <dopeghoti> of course, /echo is useless for testing these things :p
#2139 [18:07] <relsqui> I haven't actually done much scripting in either.
#2140 [18:07] <MBHGoku> Um i have problems finding the right server for me
#2141 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#2142 [18:07] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#2143 [18:08] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#2144 [18:09] <xales> relsqui: O_o
#2145 [18:09] <xales> how were you doing it
#2146 [18:09] <xales> I've never seen my status window in blue before
#2147 [18:09] <relsqui> haha
#2148 [18:09] <relsqui> /msg +#minecrafthelp foo
#2149 [18:09] <xales> ah
#2150 [18:09] <relsqui> what's the other way? oh, that was a notice, wasn't it
#2151 [18:09] <xales> I have /alias ovno notice @+$C $-
#2152 [18:09] <relsqui> maybe a notice doing the same thing
#2153 [18:10] <relsqui> yeah.
#2154 [18:10] <xales> and /alias onotice notice @$C $-
#2155 [18:10] <xales> (we use that in #help a lot, :D)
#2156 [18:10] <relsqui> it's not filling in $channel or $C for me o_O
#2157 [18:11] <xales> let me make sure it's acually $C
#2158 [18:11] <xales> yup
#2159 [18:11] <xales> 18:11:06 Aliases:
#2160 [18:11] <xales> 18:11:06 ovno /notice @+$C $0-
#2161 [18:11] <xales> make sure you put it in an alias, and aren't just trying /notice +$C whatever
#2162 [18:11] <xales> (it normally doesn't expand special variables)
#2163 [18:12] <relsqui> yeah, I am
#2164 [18:12] * relsqui tries copying yours exactly
#2164 [18:13] <xales> hmm, your on a slightly outdated version, but I don't think that would do it
#2165 [18:13] <xales> now
#2166 [18:13] <xales> time for me to steamstalk mr_flea :D
#2167 [18:13] <relsqui> XD
#2168 [18:17] <nevercast> xales, Lol I shit bricks when mr_flea came in here asking for Mc help
#2169 [18:17] <nevercast> xales, and I think we kinda didn't help him at all
#2170 [18:17] <xales> lol
#2171 [18:17] <nevercast> xales, then I found out he was esper owner
#2172 [18:17] <nevercast> I was like.. OH FUCK
#2173 [18:17] <nevercast> lol.
#2174 [18:17] <xales> owner?
#2175 [18:17] <nevercast> yeah
#2176 [18:17] <xales> he's a server admin
#2177 [18:17] <relsqui> heh
#2178 [18:17] <xales> he doesn't own his server though, it's sponsored :P
#2179 [18:17] <nevercast> the motd says owner
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#2181 [18:18] <xales> what motd?
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#2183 [18:18] <nevercast> /motd
#2184 [18:18] <nevercast> 'Administrator'
#2185 [18:18] <xales> Administrator != owner
#2186 [18:18] <nevercast> That's higher than ircop
#2187 [18:18] <xales> yes
#2188 [18:18] <nevercast> he has like super powers round these parts
#2189 [18:18] <xales> nobody "owns" an entire network
#2190 [18:18] <nevercast> lol no no
#2191 [18:18] <xales> well, not a traditional network
#2192 [18:18] <nevercast> of course no
#2193 [18:18] <nevercast> but
#2194 [18:18] <relsqui> heh
#2195 [18:19] <nevercast> he's like root of this leaf at least
#2196 [18:19] <AG_Scott> xales, not true.
#2197 [18:19] <nevercast> if not most of them
#2198 [18:19] <relsqui> I banned the guy who runs the xkcdsucks blog from #xkcd once, without knowing who he was
#2199 [18:19] <AG_Scott> oh you said not a traditional network
#2200 [18:19] <nevercast> relsqui, LOL
#2201 [18:19] <xales> indeed
#2202 [18:19] <relsqui> I wouldn't have banned him just for that, he was just being a prick
#2203 [18:19] <GreyHatSalafi> my world just disappeared again
#2204 [18:19] <GreyHatSalafi> i have no mods
#2205 [18:19] <AG_Scott> I very much prefer private networks.
#2206 [18:19] <relsqui> but it had a nice symmetry to it
#2207 [18:19] <relsqui> symmetry is the wrong word, but you know what I mean
#2208 [18:20] <Kealper> O.o
#2209 [18:20] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I can set up a hybrid / anope private irc in about 5 minutes.. want one ? :P
#2210 [18:20] <xales> why would you use anope with hybrid? whatever.
#2211 [18:20] <xales> Scott already has a private one :P
#2212 [18:20] <nevercast> xales, anope is services.
#2213 [18:20] <xales> I know
#2214 [18:20] <nevercast> xales, hybrid is server
#2215 [18:20] <xales> yes
#2216 [18:20] <AG_Scott> anope and hybrid don't really mix
#2217 [18:20] <xales> ^
#2218 [18:20] <AG_Scott> use atheme or something
#2219 [18:20] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Worked fine for me in the past
#2220 [18:21] <AG_Scott> We're using inspircd and atheme right now
#2221 [18:21] <AG_Scott> I think we're switching to anope soon.
#2222 [18:21] <nevercast> hmm
#2223 [18:21] <nevercast> AG_Scott, You'd suggest inspircd ?
#2224 [18:21] <AG_Scott> atheme is lacking a lot and we don't have the time or will to add it.
#2225 [18:21] <AG_Scott> we moved from unreal because the total lack of development to inspircd.
#2226 [18:21] <AG_Scott> we're pretty happy with it
#2227 [18:21] <nevercast> xales, how well is minecraft_server going to hold up on 256MB?
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#2229 [18:22] <AG_Scott> It isn't.
#2230 [18:22] <xales> nevercast: it probably won't even start
#2231 [18:22] <Kealper> divide by zero
#2232 [18:22] <nevercast> Kealper, black hole :D
#2233 [18:22] <nevercast> Kealper, few voids on your server a while back.. Did you run with 256? lol.
#2234 [18:22] <xales> haha
#2235 [18:22] <nevercast> Actually I think 256 causes NOT ENOUGH MEMORY servere error.
#2236 [18:22] <GreyHatSalafi> i just lost my world again...i never installed any mods
#2237 [18:22] <GreyHatSalafi> any reason for this?
#2238 [18:22] <xales> GreyHatSalafi: What OS?
#2239 [18:23] <GreyHatSalafi> linux
#2240 [18:23] <nevercast> My screen saver is Moo'ing.. I think Minecraft is running in background lol.
#2241 [18:23] <xales> do some tests on your HDD; it sounds like it might be failing if it's doing that
#2242 [18:23] <AG_Scott> one of my friends said he went missing earlier
#2243 [18:24] <AG_Scott> i figured he would just dumb enough to delete it some how without knowing
#2244 [18:24] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Yeah I don't see how shit goes missing
#2245 [18:24] <nevercast> Earlier when I transfered from Vanilla to Bukkit I had some world problems
#2246 [18:24] <nevercast> to find a world/ dir in my world/ dir
#2247 [18:24] <nevercast> Fail cp :D
#2248 [18:25] <AG_Scott> Bukkit is nomnomnomy again apparently
#2249 [18:25] <nevercast> AG_Scott, It's not bad. So it seems
#2250 [18:25] <nevercast> #bukkit channel is fuckin' useless though
#2251 [18:25] <AG_Scott> It was awful.
#2252 [18:25] <AG_Scott> CraftHub was using like 22gb for 100 players
#2253 [18:26] <nevercast> WOAH
#2254 [18:26] <nevercast> wtf
#2255 [18:27] <Kealper> 22gb? MEH
#2256 [18:27] <Kealper> what does that thing's machine have? like 32 gigs of ram or something? lol
#2257 [18:27] <nevercast> Who in here is an Architect or Landscaper? ( Not by trade, just by skill )
#2258 [18:27] <AG_Scott> 32gb for now
#2259 [18:27] <AG_Scott> 64gb soon hopefully :>
#2260 [18:27] <Kealper> nailed it.
#2261 [18:27] <Kealper> lol
#2262 [18:27] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Wow nice
#2263 [18:27] <nevercast> Kealper, Epic :P
#2264 [18:27] <relsqui> nevercast: .... in mc, or actually?
#2265 [18:27] <nevercast> relsqui, mc
#2266 [18:27] <xales> relsqui: by the way, with your promotion, you can kick people
#2267 [18:28] <AG_Scott> I'm going to TRY and work on landscapes this spring.
#2268 [18:28] <xales> /msg ChanServ KICK #minecrafthelp name reason
#2269 [18:28] <xales> or when Kealper adds you to AuBot
#2270 [18:28] <relsqui> huh, weird. okay, noted.
#2271 [18:28] <xales> !kick (name) (optional reason)
#2272 [18:28] <nevercast> xales, I'm still a nobody in here :(
#2273 [18:28] * relsqui nods
#2273 [18:28] <relsqui> any particular standard/guideline for using that I should know about?
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#2275 [18:28] <Kealper> oh....yeah i guess i should do that, huh?
#2276 [18:28] <xales> nevercast: I already added you i thought? =/
#2277 [18:28] <xales> 18:28:35 -ChanServ(services@esper.net)- nevercast added to #MineCraftHelp VOP list.
#2278 [18:28] <nevercast> AG_Scott, We talking IRL?
#2279 [18:28] <AG_Scott> Yeah
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#2282 [18:29] * xales kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: 13d06e04r05p)
#2283 [18:29] <relsqui> haha
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#2285 [18:29] <xales> :P
#2286 [18:29] <nevercast> dude I already cycled lol.
#2287 [18:29] <AG_Scott> I'll probably change my mind when it comes time to do it though.
#2288 [18:29] <xales> you cycled too fast
#2289 [18:29] <xales> :(
#2290 [18:29] <nevercast> I'm a very fast cyclist :D
#2291 [18:29] <xales> D:
#2292 [18:29] * relsqui grins
#2292 [18:29] <relsqui> I'm a ... medium-speed cyclist
#2293 [18:29] <relsqui> but not bad for someone on a comfort bike
#2294 [18:29] <TheNytangel> nevercast, ill race you :P
#2295 [18:29] <aetherian> what the heck
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#2300 [18:29] <aetherian> nevercast has vop now?
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#2303 [18:29] <TheNytangel> lol
#2304 [18:29] <nevercast> aetherian, yeah
#2305 [18:29] <nevercast> TheNytangel, win :D
#2306 [18:30] <aetherian> what is wrong with this world...
#2307 [18:30] <xales> nevercast: do it again :P
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#2310 [18:30] <xales> dammit
#2311 [18:30] <TheNytangel> lol
#2312 [18:30] <nevercast> lol.
#2313 [18:30] <nevercast> invite only? nice :P
#2314 [18:30] <aetherian> lol
#2315 [18:30] <TheNytangel> duck you :P
#2316 [18:30] <xales> oh, so
#2317 [18:30] <xales> 09I 10r11e12a02l06l13y 04l08i07k03e 11t10h02i12s 06s04c05r07i08p09t 10:11D
#2318 [18:30] <aetherian> nevercast: so you're good at solving problems?
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#2320 [18:31] * GreyVulpine stabs xales' eyes out
#2320 [18:31] <aetherian> computer problems, that is?
#2321 [18:31] <xales> GreyVulpine: >:D
#2322 [18:31] <nevercast> aetherian, yeah in general
#2323 [18:31] <aetherian> odd
#2324 [18:31] <aetherian> something's fishy here
#2325 [18:31] <xales> GreyVulpine: this is why +c was created
#2326 [18:31] <Fish> dur
#2327 [18:31] * xales covers aetherian in fish
#2327 [18:32] <TheNytangel> you hl me >:o
#2328 [18:32] <nevercast> aetherian, stop being a hater :)
#2329 [18:32] <aetherian> @_@
#2330 [18:32] <aetherian> you just...
#2331 [18:32] <aetherian> I... wait what
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#2334 [18:32] <xil> hello, could I get some help with multiplayer beta? When I try to connect to a server that isn't localhost I get on and if any chunks even load it's usually the one right under me, and then maybe a few more, but it stalls and after a few minutes kicks me with an error
#2335 [18:33] <aetherian> well then, I'll be sure to aim all problems I have at you, nevercast
#2336 [18:33] <xales> xil: what error?
#2337 [18:33] <aetherian> is anyone here running on dialup?
#2338 [18:33] <nevercast> aetherian, I can't fix all your problems aetherian. I'm not a therapist.
#2339 [18:33] <TheNytangel> is there a port? >.>
#2340 [18:33] <TheNytangel> :o
#2341 [18:33] <TheNytangel> nevercast just did a double hl
#2342 [18:33] <aetherian> a
#2343 [18:33] <xil> xales: I don't know if it's the same error every time, I don't remember, but the latest one was "Internal Exception: java.io.IOException: mark/reset not supported"
#2344 [18:33] <aetherian> *wha
#2345 [18:34] <nevercast> TheNytangel, yeah lol.
#2346 [18:34] <xales> xil: what kind of computer is it? what OS, desktop or laptop?
#2347 [18:35] <xil> Dell Studio 15 running Arch Linux
#2348 [18:35] <aetherian> ono
#2349 [18:35] <aetherian> arch linux D:
#2350 [18:35] <xil> I have openjdk but the same thing happens with Sun JVM
#2351 [18:35] <TheNytangel> ono
#2352 [18:35] <TheNytangel> wut does that mean O.o
#2353 [18:35] <xil> I tested both
#2354 [18:35] <xales> xil: are you on wifi, or ethernet?
#2355 [18:35] <TheNytangel> xil, did you try play in the browser? http://minecraft.net/game
#2356 [18:36] <xales> TheNytangel: wouldn't make a difference - it's a networking issue
#2357 [18:36] <TheNytangel> overload him with questions >:D
#2358 [18:36] <TheNytangel> and shh
#2359 [18:36] <xil> xales: wifi, but I think I remember trying it last night on ethernet and getting the same problem. I can connect sometimes, just most of the time it doesn't
#2360 [18:36] <xales> xil: are you running any sort of firewall, hardware or software?
#2361 [18:37] <TheNytangel> Antivir Solution Pro is a virus D:
#2362 [18:37] <xil> xales: to my knowledge no. I do not know of anything hardware and I haven't installed any software. But it does work sometimes. I have successfully connected to a friend's server and played like normal
#2363 [18:38] <xil> TheNytangel: I'm trying to run it now but the page is taking it's time loading
#2364 [18:38] <TheNytangel> >.>
#2365 [18:38] <TheNytangel> he listened to me
#2366 [18:38] <Kealper> AntiVir is not a virus though :o
#2367 [18:39] <TheNytangel> YES IT IS
#2368 [18:39] <TheNytangel> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1436&bih=703&q=antivir+solution+pro&rlz=1R2SKPB_enUS331&aq=f&aqi=g3g-m4&aql=&oq=
#2369 [18:39] <TheNytangel> all links are to get rid of it >.>
#2370 [18:39] <TheNytangel> lawl
#2371 [18:39] <Kealper> i don't mean Antivir Solution Pro, i mean AntiVir
#2372 [18:40] <Kealper> AntiVir is what Avira's virus scanning engine is called lol
#2373 [18:40] <TheNytangel> whatever
#2374 [18:40] <TheNytangel> antivir solution pro is a virus >.>
#2375 [18:40] <Kealper> that virus is trying to trick people into thinking it's a legit av :P
#2376 [18:41] <TheNytangel> i have microsoft security essentials and iobit security 360
#2377 [18:41] <xales> xil: no idea =/
#2378 [18:42] <xales> xil: I haven't had any problems with Minecraft under Arch myself, but I'm using the Sun/Oracle JVM and haven't tried multiplayer IIRC
#2379 [18:42] <TheNytangel> what is the difference between coal and charcoal on MC
#2380 [18:43] <Kealper> none really
#2381 [18:43] <dopeghoti> xil: looks known enough to have a report of GS: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internal_exception_java_io_ioexception_mark_reset_not_supported
#2382 [18:44] <nevercast> xales, how do I remove an alias from irssi?
#2383 [18:44] <dopeghoti> nevercast: /alias foo '' perhaps?
#2384 [18:44] <xil> TheNytangel: pages just loaded, forgot I don't have the java plugin for my browser, haha
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#2386 [18:44] <TheNytangel> lololol
#2387 [18:44] <dopeghoti> nevercast: or.. /unalias
#2388 [18:44] <nevercast> dopeghoti, latter was correct, thanks.
#2389 [18:45] <dopeghoti> nevercast: protip: '/help'
#2390 [18:45] <nevercast> dopeghoti, ;)
#2391 [18:45] <xales> nevercast: /unalias
#2392 [18:45] <xales> but I'm late
#2393 [18:45] <Kealper> i'm not sure, but i think it might be /unalias
#2394 [18:45] <Kealper> can't be positive though
#2395 [18:45] <dopeghoti> It's the late xales :( /me calls the mortician
#2396 [18:46] <Kealper> :o
#2397 [18:46] <xales> :O
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#2399 [18:47] <nevercast> Lol
#2400 [18:47] <Kealper> i think that guy has an mcserver
#2401 [18:47] <xil> this is disappointing. Well I guess I have to wait for the Mojang devs to figure it out
#2402 [18:48] <xales> O_o
#2403 [18:48] <xales> I thought mcserver was a bot, haha
#2404 [18:48] <Kealper> oh....is he/it?
#2405 [18:48] <xales> 18:48:10 [espernet] [ctcp(mcserver)] VERSION
#2406 [18:48] <xales> 18:48:11 [espernet] CTCP VERSION reply from mcserver: irssi v0.8.14
#2407 [18:49] <Kealper> mcserver: state your purpose, citizen.
#2408 [18:49] <Kealper> mcserver: and pick up that can.
#2409 [18:49] <xales> Kealper
#2410 [18:49] * xales picks up can and throws it at you
#2410 [18:49] * xales runs away
#2410 [18:49] * Kealper turns on electric baton and chases
#2410 [18:50] <nevercast> LOL
#2411 [18:50] <nevercast> Half LIfe Reference?
#2412 [18:50] <xales> s*
#2413 [18:50] <Kealper> ftw.
#2414 [18:50] <nevercast> <3
#2415 [18:50] <xales> was that "fuck the world" or "for the win" :3
#2416 [18:50] <Kealper> yes.
#2417 [18:50] <Kealper> lol
#2418 [18:51] <xales> I wasn't aware I had asked a yes or no question? =/
#2419 [18:51] <mcserver> im just gonna linger here, kealper. :)
#2420 [18:51] <dopeghoti> xales: you said 'or', not 'xor'.
#2421 [18:51] <Kealper> mcserver: your name looks very bot-like lol
#2422 [18:51] <mcserver> kealper, it's registered so no point changing
#2423 [18:51] <Kealper> meh. lol
#2424 [18:54] <mcserver> kealper, i'll have some scripts on this eventually. server management and such. irssi is nice like that
#2425 [18:54] <Kealper> oh wow....downloading my #minecraft log...that is taking AGES to download
#2426 [18:54] <nevercast> Slow download is slow.
#2427 [18:54] <xales> Kealper
#2428 [18:54] <Kealper> huge log is huge
#2429 [18:54] <xales> set autolog_format so it automatically rotates <.<
#2430 [18:54] <Kealper> bah
#2431 [18:54] <Kealper> then i'll just have a ton of files
#2432 [18:54] <xales> Kealper:
#2433 [18:54] <xales> 18:54:42 autolog_path = ~/irclogs/%Y/$tag/$0.%m-%d.log
#2434 [18:55] <nevercast> xales, you forgot hours minutes seconds <3
#2435 [18:55] <xales> nevercast: D:
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#2437 [18:55] <Kealper> will that do like....throwing it in it's own folder then sorting by day?
#2438 [18:55] <xales> example:
#2439 [18:55] <xales> ~/irclogs/2011/espernet/#minecrafthelp-02-21.log
#2440 [18:55] <Kealper> to open this log file in notepad...or not to open this log file in notepad....
#2441 [18:55] <xales> 02 being february, 21 being the 21st
#2442 [18:56] <Kealper> yeah that would be annoying a ton of files
#2443 [18:56] <nevercast> Kealper, notepad will FUCKIN DIE
#2444 [18:56] <xales> ^
#2445 [18:56] <Kealper> i know, that's why iwant to lol
#2446 [18:56] <nevercast> notepad doesn't have a buffer or an async loader
#2447 [18:56] <Kealper> LOL that took ages to open that
#2448 [18:56] <xales> it will pour gasoline on itself
#2449 [18:56] <xales> then light itself on fire
#2450 [18:56] <xales> and slowly burn into nothingness
#2451 [18:56] <nevercast> xales, I had a cartoon of that :D
#2452 [18:56] <Kealper> quite responsive after it opens
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#2454 [18:56] <Kealper> just took like 30 sec to open it lol
#2455 [18:56] <nevercast> xales, followed by the dude running around on fire and burning to the ground
#2456 [18:57] <xales> nevercast: :P
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#2459 [18:57] <xales> :(
#2460 [18:57] <xales> the stupid
#2461 [18:57] <xales> bot in #<snip> is broken
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#2463 [18:57] <Kealper> which?
#2464 [18:57] <dopeghoti> who uses notpad anymore when vim is so much better?
#2465 [18:57] <xales> ^
#2466 [18:58] <xales> I like notpad though
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#2468 [18:58] <xales> it's so..notty
#2469 [18:58] <dopeghoti> indeed, it's quite noTTY, given how it's a GUI program
#2470 [18:58] <xales> :P
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#2472 [18:58] <Kealper> lol.....notepad is using like 70mb of ram having this log of #minecraft open
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#2474 [18:59] <ConMan8> Kealper, Bukkit updated REEAAALLY qucikly
#2475 [19:00] <Kealper> eh?
#2476 [19:00] <RF> notepad++ ftw
#2477 [19:00] <Kealper> RF: i've got it, but i just wanted to watch notepad burn up in flames trying to handle it
#2478 [19:00] <RF> lol
#2479 [19:00] <mcserver> Kealper, did it?
#2480 [19:01] <Kealper> oh man, it seems like it was close to burning up....it took AGES to open
#2481 [19:01] <Kealper> and changing the font makes it go unresponsive for like a minute while it change slol
#2482 [19:01] <Kealper> aannd....np++ opens it instantly lol
#2483 [19:02] <Kealper> 545,764 lines of text ftw
#2484 [19:04] <nevercast> xales
#2485 [19:04] <nevercast> are you amazing?
#2486 [19:04] <xales> am I?
#2487 [19:04] <nevercast> we'll find out :D
#2488 [19:04] <nevercast> xales, how do I start off a basic irssi script?
#2489 [19:05] <xales> nevercast: http://juerd.nl/site.plp/irssiscripttut
#2490 [19:05] <dopeghoti> nevercast: step one: pearn perl?
#2491 [19:05] <nevercast> pearn perl
#2492 [19:05] <dopeghoti> s/pe/le/
#2493 [19:05] <nevercast> lol.
#2494 [19:05] <xales> yes, pern perl
#2495 [19:05] <xales> do it
#2496 [19:05] <xales> pearn*
#2497 [19:05] <nevercast> dopeghoti, step one, pearn spell :D
#2498 [19:05] <dopeghoti> I can spell. I just can't _type_.
#2499 [19:05] <xales> _formatting_
#2500 [19:05] <xales> *isnt it fun&*
#2501 [19:05] <nevercast> xales, perl is easy
#2502 [19:05] <xales> fail
#2503 [19:06] <nevercast> xales, now how do I make irssi understand my perlly ness
#2504 [19:06] <xales> nevercast: read that :)
#2505 [19:06] <dopeghoti> nevercast: ..teach your ness how to write perl?
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#2507 [19:06] <xales> dopeghoti: got tf2?
#2508 [19:07] <dopeghoti> Yes.
#2509 [19:07] <xales> \o/
#2510 [19:07] <Kealper> wow...my apache access.log just made np++ studder for a sec while opening it
#2511 [19:07] <dopeghoti> It just makes me miss TFC though (:
#2512 [19:07] <xales> Kealper and I are going to gang up on mr_flea :)
#2513 [19:07] <xales> because he came in here :)
#2514 [19:07] <dopeghoti> mr_flea?
#2515 [19:07] <Kealper> indeed
#2516 [19:07] <xales> dopeghoti: the idea was to not ping him, I think he is still in here :P
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#2518 [19:07] <xales> oh, nope
#2519 [19:07] <xales> :)
#2520 [19:08] <ChrisP_> dopeghoti, when are you getting home?
#2521 [19:08] <Kealper> xales does this ping you?
#2522 [19:08] <dopeghoti> TheNytangel: same time as I said earlier, hopefully.
#2523 [19:08] <xales> Kealper: no
#2524 [19:08] <xales> formatting breaks pings
#2525 [19:09] <Kealper> irssi should strip formatting from text and then test to see if stuff matches :/
#2526 [19:09] <dopeghoti> "/nick ^BD^Bope^BG^Bhoti"
#2527 [19:09] <Kealper> ^B is not the actual thing for bold though :/
#2528 [19:10] <dopeghoti> Au contraire, it actually is.
#2529 [19:10] <Kealper> niet
#2530 [19:10] <xales> FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
#2531 [19:10] <Kealper> ASCII 002 is for bold
#2532 [19:10] <dopeghoti> ASCII character 0x02 is ^B.
#2533 [19:11] <Kealper> clients just replace ^B to that control char before sending the packet :/
#2534 [19:11] <theunleet|Work> I fried my iPhone 3G!
#2535 [19:11] <dopeghoti> um, no, ^B actually _is_ 0x02.
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#2537 [19:11] <theunleeet> Dropped it in the toilet.
#2538 [19:11] <dopeghoti> compare ^G, 0x07, which is the alert/terminal bell.
#2539 [19:12] <Kealper> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaait
#2540 [19:12] <dopeghoti> theunleeet: sounds more like a drowning than a frying.
#2541 [19:12] <Kealper> disregard me, i thought you were talking about ^B itself, not the act of using that key combo
#2542 [19:12] <Kealper> not braining FTW!
#2543 [19:12] <dopeghoti> Kealper: yes, ctrl-B, not caret-followed-by-B.
#2544 [19:12] <xales> ^Bamidoinitright^B
#2545 [19:12] <xales> :P
#2546 [19:13] <Kealper> no.
#2547 [19:13] <xales> ^_IthinkIam^_
#2548 [19:13] <Kealper> ^Bbut apparently i suck, so disregard me^B
#2549 [19:13] <xales> ^]butialsolikeitalicsandmisspelling^]
#2550 [19:13] <theunleeet> I no it fried. Took it apart and the motherboard was toast.
#2551 [19:13] <theunleeet> know*
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#2553 [19:14] <theunleeet> Wasn't eligible for an upgrade... bought some crappy $79 phone xD
#2554 [19:14] <dopeghoti> theunleeet: yes, but that's from short-circuits due to drowning. Frying would have involved heat, not fluid.
#2555 [19:14] <theunleeet> Oh yes I SHORT-CIRCUITED my phone... sorry.
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#2557 [19:15] <theunleeet> Was pretty cool to watch the screen flip out and display pretty colors.
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#2561 [19:16] <xales> hey look!
#2562 [19:16] <xales> A wild GLaDOS
#2563 [19:16] <dopeghoti> [FIGHT] MAGIC ITEM RUN
#2564 [19:17] <xales> ahaha
#2565 [19:17] <xales> inb4 GLaDOS nick to guest
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#2567 [19:17] <xales> 19:16:47 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- STATUS glados 1
#2568 [19:17] <xales> dopeghoti: ITEM
#2569 [19:17] <dopeghoti> [BACK] GEM SCROLL
#2570 [19:17] <xales> scroll
#2571 [19:17] <xales> >:)
#2572 [19:18] <Linguist> Got a quick question about Bukkit and installing a pluging called Xwarp. It says I need to add the SQlite driver into the lib/ directory. Where is that?
#2573 [19:18] <xales> ??> Linguist mods
#2574 [19:18] <VoxelHead> Linguist: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2575 [19:18] <dopeghoti> THE wild GLaDOS IS ON FIRE! THE wild GLaDOS STRIKES! THE wild GLaDOS MISSES.
#2576 [19:18] <VoxelHead> Linguist: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2577 [19:18] <dopeghoti> [FIGHT] MAGIC ITEM RUN
#2578 [19:19] <xales> dopeghoti: BREAK WAND "Wand of Death" ON THE wild GLaDOS
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#2580 [19:19] <dopeghoti> ?RETURN WITHOUT GOSUB ERROR ON LINE 23520
#2581 [19:19] <dopeghoti> ]_
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#2582 [19:20] <xales> hey Kealper
#2583 [19:20] <Kealper> rawr
#2584 [19:20] <xales> is this you on Facebook? http://facebook.com/profile.php?=8345234
#2585 [19:20] <Kealper> asdly
#2586 [19:20] <xales> :P
#2587 [19:20] <Kealper> sadly*
#2588 [19:20] * xales hopes Kealper knows that that link is :P
#2588 [19:21] <Kealper> knows that that?
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#2590 [19:21] <xales> what*
#2591 [19:21] <Kealper> it's pretty obvious from the url >.>
#2592 [19:21] <dopeghoti> Damn, now I want so write a stupid text-based RPG
#2593 [19:21] * dopeghoti shakes a fist at xales
#2593 [19:21] <xales> Kealper, you know how to read URL's? :D
#2594 [19:22] <xales> dopeghoti: *evil laugh*
#2595 [19:22] <xales> dopeghoti: plan on finishing before September is over?
#2596 [19:22] <dopeghoti> uh, why?
#2597 [19:22] * xales thinks you didn't get it
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#2598 [19:23] * xales points at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
#2598 [19:23] <Chris> hey you guys
#2599 [19:23] <Chris> i'm experiencing some troubles, wondering if anyone could spare some words
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#2601 [19:23] <Chris> of wisdom
#2602 [19:24] <Chris> minecraft related of course
#2603 [19:24] <Kealper> Chris: depends, what wisdom doth thou seek?
#2604 [19:24] <Chris> haha WELL
#2605 [19:24] <Kealper> dost thou*
#2606 [19:24] <Chris> i came in here a day or two ago
#2607 [19:24] <Chris> because
#2608 [19:24] <dopeghoti> xales: huh. I was not familiar with that idiom.
#2609 [19:24] <Chris> as soon as i downloaded the new launcher
#2610 [19:24] <xales> dopeghoti: you are now :)
#2611 [19:24] <Kealper> dopeghoti: you're not the only one that was like wut?
#2612 [19:24] <Chris> when i logged in, it would go to a black screen
#2613 [19:24] <Chris> and the interface (or whatever you'd call it) would load
#2614 [19:24] <Chris> but i couldn't see anything
#2615 [19:24] <Kealper> Chris: tried reinstalling?
#2616 [19:24] <dopeghoti> ??> Chris irc/flood
#2617 [19:25] <VoxelHead> Chris: (irc/flood) Please don't flood the channel; don't use the Enter key as a comma. If you have a lot to say, it's a lot easier for everyone to read if you contain it all on one line, and it makes the channel easier to follow. Thanks.
#2618 [19:25] <Kealper> ??> VoxelHead irc/flood
#2619 [19:25] <VoxelHead> VoxelHead: (irc/flood) Please don't flood the channel; don't use the Enter key as a comma. If you have a lot to say, it's a lot easier for everyone to read if you contain it all on one line, and it makes the channel easier to follow. Thanks.
#2620 [19:25] <Kealper> xD
#2621 [19:25] <xales> ??< Kealper irc/bots
#2622 [19:25] <xales> :D
#2623 [19:25] <Chris> like if i clicked around it would click on stuff, i could hear the buttons pressing and stuff
#2624 [19:25] <xales> ??< Kealper irc/bot
#2625 [19:25] <xales> <.<
#2626 [19:25] <dopeghoti> xales: you mean ??>>
#2627 [19:25] <relsqui> I like voxelhead because it doesn't require patience/thinking to be polite and clear
#2628 [19:25] <Chris> i tried reinstalling, it didn't do anything
#2629 [19:25] <xales> dopeghoti: probably :P
#2630 [19:25] <dopeghoti> < is indirect; >> is append
#2631 [19:25] <xales> it's aparrantly not an entry? :O
#2632 [19:26] <dopeghoti> xales: bot_s_.
#2633 [19:26] <Chris> sorry about flooding? i am the worst about that
#2634 [19:26] <xales> I did bots first
#2635 [19:26] <xales> oh nevermind
#2636 [19:26] <dopeghoti> xales: you did ??< Kealper first (:
#2637 [19:26] <xales> I know
#2638 [19:26] <xales> :P
#2639 [19:26] <dopeghoti> ANYwho, Chris:
#2640 [19:26] <Chris> okay, so anyway i figured it would just start working eventually, so i just waited, and it DID work, yesterday, now today it's stopped working again. bizarre.
#2641 [19:26] <dopeghoti> What OS are you running? What version of Java?
#2642 [19:27] <Chris> i am running windows seven and as far as i know my java is entirely up to date
#2643 [19:27] * xales afk a minute
#2643 [19:27] <dopeghoti> Chris: and now it's doing the same thing it had been?
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#2645 [19:27] <Chris> yes sir
#2646 [19:28] <dopeghoti> ??> Chris reinst/win
#2647 [19:28] <dopeghoti> ??> Chris win/reinst
#2648 [19:28] <VoxelHead> Chris: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2649 [19:28] <VoxelHead> Chris: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2650 [19:28] <aetherian> thou faileth it
#2651 [19:28] <Kealper> gotta get those formatted better
#2652 [19:28] <dopeghoti> Kealper: gotta do less multithreading of myself at work.
#2653 [19:28] <Chris> i have tried this a few times already, but i could try again
#2654 [19:30] <Chris> yeah it doesn't change anything
#2655 [19:31] <dopeghoti> ?? win/profile
#2656 [19:31] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2657 [19:31] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2658 [19:32] <Chris> when you say user account i am assuming you mean like the one i use to login to my computer
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#2661 [19:34] <sardo97> Hello.
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#2665 [19:36] <dopeghoti> Chris: yes.
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#2667 [19:37] <lahwran> so I heard you guys like referring people to a particular +s channel whenever someone asks for help with clientside modding
#2668 [19:37] <dopeghoti> ??>> lahwran mods
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#2670 [19:38] <dopeghoti> Not sure if either of those are +s.
#2671 [19:38] <rev-lemon> well its not so, basicly mods arnt appart of the offical game, there for we dont help with mods, thats all, we try and give you another channel to goto to get help with those mods
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#2801 [19:40] <aetherian> welcome back guys
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#2804 [19:40] <blip2> the internet just had a hickup
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#2807 [19:41] <lahwran> blip2: the internet or esper?
#2808 [19:41] <aetherian> the whole internet
#2809 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Success! Zelda "Secret found" melody done!
#2810 [19:41] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: heh!
#2811 [19:41] <aetherian> ocarina of time?
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#2813 [19:41] <blip2> lahwran: a large hub somewhere
#2814 [19:42] <aetherian> heya kelly
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#2816 [19:42] <blip2> likely somewhere in londaaaaan
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#2819 [19:44] <aetherian> londan?
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#2821 [19:44] <Chris> i created a new user profile on my computer, and logged into that one, downloaded minecraft and installed it but i had the same issue
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#2823 [19:47] <Chris> so bizarre. the game works, i can even get it to load a file, because i start hearing sound effects like a skeleton shooting arrows at me, i just can't see anything
#2824 [19:48] <dopeghoti> Chris: running any security or firewall software?
#2825 [19:48] <dopeghoti> Also, is this single-player or online?
#2826 [19:49] <Chris> this is single player, and as far as i know the only firewall software i have is whatever came with windows seven, except for microsoft security essentials
#2827 [19:50] <nevercast> xales, under signals for irssi scripts.
#2828 [19:50] <nevercast> when you have something like SERVER_REC
#2829 [19:50] <nevercast> is that a return type?
#2830 [19:51] <xales> don't ask me
#2831 [19:51] <xales> <.<
#2832 [19:51] <nevercast> lol.
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#2834 [19:52] <xales> oh hey
#2835 [19:52] <xales> I was on the losing end of a split again
#2836 [19:52] <xales> D:
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#2838 [19:54] <L1nk> Hey folks
#2839 [19:54] <xales> hi
#2840 [19:54] <Kealper> not sure what happened with mine....it just freaked out and i had to go in and mod my config to change the server i connect to :/
#2841 [19:54] <xales> haha
#2842 [19:54] <xales> you probably were effected by the same routing issue that split it from it's uplink
#2843 [19:54] * xales was not! :D
#2843 [19:54] <Kealper> probably....what server split?
#2844 [19:55] <L1nk> so did u get everything sorted Kealper?
#2845 [19:55] <Kealper> indeed
#2846 [19:55] <Kealper> anyways, i think i was connected to apocalypse
#2847 [19:56] <L1nk> sweet, atleast its working now
#2848 [19:56] <Kealper> you have a really simple ip lol
#2849 [19:56] <xales> Kealper: I'm playing tf2 with TD now :o
#2850 [19:56] <L1nk> who?
#2851 [19:57] <Kealper> you lol, it's just 2.102.86.25
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#2853 [19:57] <L1nk> my ip changes every 30min
#2854 [19:57] <Kealper> O.o
#2855 [19:58] <L1nk> i still cant get on MC
#2856 [19:58] <L1nk> ive almost given up xD
#2857 [19:58] <Kealper> O.o
#2858 [19:58] <mcserver> If at first you don't succeed.. "Winning, You're doing it Wrong"
#2859 [19:58] <ConMan8> O.o
#2860 [19:59] <L1nk> :D
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#2862 [20:00] <nevercast> L1nk, What's the problem?
#2863 [20:00] <xales> Kealper: I am doing poor man's dual monitor
#2864 [20:00] <xales> laptop! :)
#2865 [20:00] <nevercast> xales, Haha me too
#2866 [20:00] <nevercast> xales, CRT + Laptop is my Dual Setup
#2867 [20:00] <L1nk> @nevercast http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=195959&p=2836709#p2836709
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#2869 [20:01] <Shockwave> can someone tell me why i havn't been able to login to my account for the last couple weeks
#2870 [20:02] <nevercast> L1nk, [aticfx64.dll+0x2f5bf]
#2871 [20:02] <nevercast> Fix yo drivers.
#2872 [20:03] <L1nk> as far as i knew they were all up to date
#2873 [20:03] <nevercast> Maybe that's the problem
#2874 [20:03] <TheNytangel> dopeghoti, 2 hours?
#2875 [20:04] <L1nk> aticfx is the graphics driver right?
#2876 [20:04] <nevercast> I'm running 2004 Graphics Drivers for my NVidia
#2877 [20:04] <nevercast> Anything else breaks my rendering
#2878 [20:04] <nevercast> L1nk, It's part of your graphics drivers.. not sure what bit
#2879 [20:04] <xales> Kealper: nice shot! lol
#2880 [20:05] <xales> :P
#2881 [20:05] <xales> ahahaha
#2882 [20:05] <xales> shoulda scoped in on that sniper :P
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#2885 [20:09] <nevercast> grr
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#2888 [20:13] <L1nk> brb
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#2892 [20:17] <xales> Kealper
#2893 [20:17] <xales> :<
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#2897 [20:20] <Kealper> that was so amazingly fail
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#2899 [20:21] <Kealper> i've gotta go afk for a while
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#2901 [20:22] <xales> Kealper: :P
#2902 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - creeper blew up a part of the railway near spawn
#2903 [20:27] <relsqui> :(
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#2907 [20:29] <Draglems1> Hi, could anyone help me with a problem I have? the problem i'm having is i went to search for some pigs, (For some pork to cook) and well, long story short, I went too far and i can't find my way back to my house.
#2908 [20:30] <Draglems1> The point is; is there any program i can use to search a object and then find it?
#2909 [20:30] <xales> Draglems1: possibly MCEdit
#2910 [20:30] <xales> otherwise, make a compass
#2911 [20:30] <Draglems1> ..Wow
#2912 [20:30] <TheNytangel> i wonder what it is like to be a dog..
#2913 [20:30] <Draglems1> You saved my ass -_-
#2914 [20:30] <Draglems1> i forgot i made a spawn point on my house =P.
#2915 [20:30] <Draglems1> Thank you sir =D
#2916 [20:30] <TheNytangel> not having a computer or electronics or anything
#2917 [20:30] <TheNytangel> just sleeping and playing all day
#2918 [20:32] <Vikingr> Hi, what's the ID# of the Redstone Repeater, and where can you find it?
#2919 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#2920 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Redstone (Repeater, Active).png 94 5E Redstone Repeater ("on" state)
#2921 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> ID is 94
#2922 [20:34] <aetherian> shet
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#2924 [20:34] <aetherian> I just deleted my D:\ partition D:
#2925 [20:34] <Vikingr> Thanks, my old one was flawed
#2926 [20:35] <Draglems1> Is finding 6 spiders in one spot rare?
#2927 [20:35] <Vikingr> old itemlist, that is :)
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#2929 [20:38] <mib_6h4ghy> yo what should i do if the game is lagging and very slow?
#2930 [20:38] <mib_6h4ghy> the trail worked perfectly
#2931 [20:38] <TheNytangel> i like how i ask my parents for their credit card and they just bring it to me and say "bring it to me when your done"
#2932 [20:39] <feenyx> that's some good parent control
#2933 [20:39] <feenyx> ofcourse, I like how I can just use my own credit card :p
#2934 [20:40] <TheNytangel> i like how im only 13 >.>
#2935 [20:41] <aetherian> -.-
#2936 [20:41] <feenyx> I like how Minecraft appeals to a very wide age span
#2937 [20:41] <mib_6h4ghy> can somebody please help me
#2938 [20:41] <aetherian> dodongo dislikes minecraft
#2939 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_6h4ghy - With?
#2940 [20:42] <mib_6h4ghy> the game is laggy and slow as soon as i bought it, the trail worked perfectly
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#2942 [20:43] <TheNytangel> did you change the graphics? <.<
#2943 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> It's the latest version, everybody's having this problem. Try turning down the graphics level, turn smooth lighting off in the options
#2944 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Turn fog up
#2945 [20:43] <Coll> uh
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#2947 [20:44] <Coll> wasnt there supposed to a way to set spawn points now?
#2948 [20:44] <Draglems1> Hi, My brother can't play Minecraft.
#2949 [20:44] <Draglems1> Is there any reason?
#2950 [20:44] <Draglems1> He can't login from the site..
#2951 [20:44] <Draglems1> It says wrong pass/username.
#2952 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Coll - With beds
#2953 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Kinda
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#2955 [20:45] <Coll> kinda?
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#2957 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#2958 [20:45] <Draglems1> OMG HELP
#2959 [20:45] <TheNytangel> HOLD ON
#2960 [20:45] <Draglems1> I've got fucking 9 spiders and 3 archers chasing me.
#2961 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> ...
#2962 [20:45] <TheNytangel> PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE
#2963 [20:45] <TheNytangel> gosh
#2964 [20:46] <TheNytangel> 8 year olds these days
#2965 [20:46] <TheNytangel> just run away
#2966 [20:46] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2967 [20:46] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2968 [20:46] <aetherian> !isdown google.com
#2969 [20:46] <GreyBot> aetherian: It's just you. http://google.com is up.
#2970 [20:46] <aetherian> aww
#2971 [20:47] <TheNytangel> Draglems1: http://minecraft.net looks down from here. = minecraft.net is down which means it wont work
#2972 [20:48] <Draglems1> WWhat block is the equivlent to quick sand?
#2973 [20:49] <nevercast> Draglems1, sand
#2974 [20:49] <Draglems1> ...
#2975 [20:49] <nevercast> Draglems1, sand with nothing under it :P
#2976 [20:49] <Draglems1> A BLOCK YOU CAN SEEP DOWN INTO THEN..
#2977 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> ...
#2978 [20:49] <nevercast> Draglems1, There isn't any I don't believe
#2979 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> There is none?
#2980 [20:49] <nevercast> Apart from Water
#2981 [20:49] <Draglems1> Someone said you can fall through a certain block ;_;
#2982 [20:49] <nevercast> Water
#2983 [20:49] <Draglems1> ...
#2984 [20:49] <Draglems1> They said soul sand o3o
#2985 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#2986 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Look for yourself
#2987 [20:49] <Draglems1> I tried it though.
#2988 [20:50] <Draglems1> ..I don't think i'll understand 'Data values'
#2989 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> That's the list of all the entities and blocks
#2990 [20:50] <TheNytangel> soul sang
#2991 [20:50] <TheNytangel> sand*
#2992 [20:50] <TheNytangel> or whatever
#2993 [20:50] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Soul_Sand
#2994 [20:50] <TheNytangel> It slows the movement of any player or mob, and players sink slightly into the block while walking on it
#2995 [20:51] <aetherian> we need a !minecraftwiki function :P
#2996 [20:51] <aetherian> like !wiki , but not.\
#2997 [20:51] <aetherian> *but not.
#2998 [20:51] <nevercast> perl scripts can invoke shell commands without doing any calls?
#2999 [20:51] <nevercast> wtf
#3000 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Then it'll get hella spammed out of
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#3002 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> No thanks
#3003 [20:52] <Draglems1> wHAT
#3004 [20:52] <Draglems1> What*
#3005 [20:52] <Draglems1> how did a spider die from 1hit with a wooden sowrd
#3006 [20:52] <Draglems1> sword*
#3007 [20:52] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: because I was being serious...
#3008 [20:52] <TheNytangel> it was already hurt
#3009 [20:52] * aetherian !wiki's sarcasm
#3009 [20:52] <TheNytangel> dur
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#3011 [20:52] <Draglems1> No.
#3012 [20:52] <Draglems1> It was in a mob spawner :o
#3013 [20:52] <TheNytangel> Yes.
#3014 [20:52] <TheNytangel> well then
#3015 [20:53] <aetherian> it was a vampire spider
#3016 [20:53] <TheNytangel> google it
#3017 [20:53] <TheNytangel> lol aetherian
#3018 [20:53] <Draglems1> no u @ vampir espider
#3019 [20:53] <TheNytangel> what about a silver arrow ;D
#3020 [20:53] <Draglems1> lol@typ o
#3021 [20:53] <Draglems1> Oh right.
#3022 [20:53] <nevercast> LOL
#3023 [20:53] <aetherian> today is not my day...
#3024 [20:53] <Draglems1> turns out i accidently switched weapon.
#3025 [20:53] <Mash> got minecraft, used friends account to try it out, made my own (non premium still) and just play in offline mode- my server (default setup with verify off) is kicking me saying I need to log in.
#3026 [20:53] <nevercast> Draglems1, you fail hard <3
#3027 [20:53] <Draglems1> ..and somehow a Diamond axe killed it?
#3028 [20:53] <Mash> Any idea how to solve that?
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#3030 [20:53] <nevercast> Draglems1, Diamond IS Diamond
#3031 [20:53] <nevercast> Draglems1, It has high damage
#3032 [20:54] <TheNytangel> Mash, 1. your name is a movie
#3033 [20:54] <Draglems1> But i thought only Sword/bow attacked?
#3034 [20:54] <TheNytangel> 2. you need to buy the game to play
#3035 [20:54] <TheNytangel> it
#3036 [20:54] <Mash> Akrose: Mash: oops, misread that, refer to #minecrafthelp for help on getting offline actually working
#3037 [20:54] <nevercast> I'm over perl already ^_^
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#3039 [20:55] <Mash> You can't "get over" Perl.. i've been buried in Perl for like 9 years.
#3040 [20:55] <Draglems1> Er what
#3041 [20:55] <Draglems1> Did i have 2 spiders in my house without realising it?
#3042 [20:55] <Draglems1> O_o..
#3043 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Mash - First off, beta doesn't have the verify-names field
#3044 [20:56] <TheNytangel> just 1 more hour until dopeghoti fixes my double natted network :D
#3045 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> If yours does in server.properties, chances are, you're using the classic server file
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#3047 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Second, it's not really proper for us here to help you set up a server so you can play on a game you didn't pay for....
#3048 [20:56] <TheNytangel> kick!
#3049 [20:56] <Draglems1> i just lol'd @ mash
#3050 [20:56] <TheNytangel> kick!
#3051 [20:56] <TheNytangel> i dare you to :D
#3052 [20:57] <Mash> I just downloaded the server.zip from minecraft.net, extracted, ran it and it spit out server.properties.
#3053 [20:57] <TheNytangel> !server
#3054 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Nah. I reserve kicking for people who truely don't plan on buying minecraft at all
#3055 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> I'm still holding out hope
#3056 [20:57] <TheNytangel> !paid TheNytangel
#3057 [20:57] <TheNytangel> :P
#3058 [20:57] <Draglems1> My Draglems1 account hasn't paid for MC.
#3059 [20:57] <TheNytangel> :o
#3060 [20:57] <TheNytangel> hax!
#3061 [20:57] <Draglems1> but my nathanmarck account has.
#3062 [20:57] <Mash> Payday rolls around I'll spit out my fair dues. I freedev apps for FFXI's windower community, I <3 donations. Not fond of stealing peoples' work.
#3063 [20:58] <Draglems1> No, I use a diffrent account someone gave
#3064 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Mash - Where exactly did you get the server file from?
#3065 [20:58] <Draglems1> ./Snicker
#3066 [20:58] <Draglems1> :3
#3067 [20:58] <Draglems1> !paid nathanmarck
#3068 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Which link on the minecraft.net page
#3069 [20:58] <Draglems1> !paid Draglems1
#3070 [20:58] <Draglems1> ..and there it crashes..
#3071 [20:58] <TheNytangel> Draglems1, did you pay for it?
#3072 [20:58] <TheNytangel> !paid Draglems1
#3073 [20:58] <Draglems1> No =D.
#3074 [20:58] <Draglems1> but nathanmarck has =D.
#3075 [20:58] <TheNytangel> lol
#3076 [20:58] <TheNytangel> it likes me
#3077 [20:58] <TheNytangel> OMG YOU STOLE THE GAME
#3078 [20:58] <Draglems1> ?!
#3079 [20:58] <Mash> GreyVulpine, I must've pulled a stupid, seems my "minecraft_server.zip" is actually the alpha?
#3080 [20:58] <Draglems1> ?!?!?!?!
#3081 [20:59] <TheNytangel> <Draglems1> No =D.
#3082 [20:59] <TheNytangel> <TheNytangel> Draglems1, did you pay for it?
#3083 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> No, the minecraft-server.zip is the free, creative "classic server
#3084 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft_server file is the one you want
#3085 [20:59] <Draglems1> but nathanmarck has beta =D.
#3086 [20:59] <Mash> oh
#3087 [20:59] <TheNytangel> but you didnt pay for it, nub
#3088 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Easy TheNytangel.
#3089 [20:59] <TheNytangel> :P
#3090 [20:59] <Draglems1> ..Sniff
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#3092 [20:59] <Draglems1> ..Sniffle..Sniffle...
#3093 [21:00] <l1nk> Back people
#3094 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> We're here to help people, not judge or berate them.
#3095 [21:00] <TheNytangel> i hope you feel bad about yourself -_-
#3096 [21:00] <Mash> I feel bad because I'm broke, yes. Not so much for trying to play a game. ^^
#3097 [21:00] <TheNytangel> not you
#3098 [21:00] <TheNytangel> Draglems1
#3099 [21:01] <Mash> Oh, bleh. I don't love you either.
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#3101 [21:01] <TheNytangel> eww
#3102 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> If you plan on buying it, great. Please don't pirate minecraft to continuously "try" the game
#3103 [21:01] <Draglems1> ew pirate.
#3104 [21:02] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3105 [21:02] <l1nk> lol pirate
#3106 [21:02] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3107 [21:02] <TheNytangel> !paid KaceyPeterson
#3108 [21:03] <Mash> GreyVulpine, As I said, used a friends account to try it once, made my own and am playing offline mode until payday.
#3109 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> I understand
#3110 [21:03] <Mash> Which, if the stars align, will be tomorrow. :p
#3111 [21:03] <TheNytangel> but
#3112 [21:03] <TheNytangel> its friday
#3113 [21:03] <TheNytangel> isnt payday usually friday?
#3114 [21:03] <Mash> Yes, I get paid on saturdays.
#3115 [21:03] <Mash> small business.
#3116 [21:03] <Mash> owners wife does payroll.
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#3118 [21:05] <Draglems1> ..
#3119 [21:05] <Draglems1> How do creepers climb ladders..
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#3121 [21:05] <Vikingr> Do you guys know stuff about redstone wiring and circuits?
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#3123 [21:05] <Mash> Vikingr; youtube walkthroughs, easiest way ^^
#3124 [21:05] <TheNytangel> i do
#3125 [21:05] <TheNytangel> i do
#3126 [21:05] <TheNytangel> gimme server IP
#3127 [21:05] <TheNytangel> :D
#3128 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Vikingr - Yes
#3129 [21:06] <Mash> I didn't think servers could do wiring yet?
#3130 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> They can
#3131 [21:06] <TheNytangel> -_-
#3132 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Has been in since beta
#3133 [21:06] <TheNytangel> Mash
#3134 [21:06] <TheNytangel> you are behind
#3135 [21:06] <Mash> I just started 2 days ago! I have a deaf brother that lives across town I wanted to play with :'(
#3136 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> I've just finished wiring Zelda's "Secret Found" jingle as a doorbell
#3137 [21:06] <l1nk> what would happen if i unsinstalled my graphics driver?
#3138 [21:06] <aetherian> the computer would explode
#3139 [21:06] <TheNytangel> lol
#3140 [21:06] <Mash> You get yummy 640x480 16color-ness?
#3141 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> As well as a little rube goldberg device
#3142 [21:07] <aetherian> you may die
#3143 [21:07] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, can i hear it?
#3144 [21:07] <l1nk> tbh i cant play coz of the stupid toshiba driver
#3145 [21:07] <Mash> Who makes the chip?
#3146 [21:07] <l1nk> so i may uninstall it and install the standerd one
#3147 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - It's not a hard to find jingle
#3148 [21:07] <l1nk> intel
#3149 [21:07] <TheNytangel> -_-
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#3151 [21:07] <Julie> hi?
#3152 [21:08] <Mash> TheNytangel, there's something you can /vomits at. ^^
#3153 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3154 [21:08] <l1nk> lol
#3155 [21:08] <TheNytangel> wut
#3156 [21:08] <TheNytangel> did i miss something?
#3157 [21:08] <Julie> i can ask someone ?
#3158 [21:08] <TheNytangel> yes
#3159 [21:08] <Mash> Intel GMA with it's half-assed T&L
#3160 [21:08] <TheNytangel> just ask
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#3162 [21:08] <Julie> :)
#3163 [21:08] <Brosofocus> Anyone have a good mob trap that works well in 1.3 that can be built legitly without 7 years of work?
#3164 [21:08] <l1nk> Mash: its a free laptop so im not complaining
#3165 [21:08] <Mash> Oh, well then carry on.
#3166 [21:08] <TheNytangel> Brosofocus, youtube
#3167 [21:09] <Draglems1> I don't get it
#3168 [21:09] <nevercast> Kealper, once a process is SCREEN'd.. is there a way to pull up the Stdio of that process in like a new stream?
#3169 [21:09] <Brosofocus> non of them work well with 1.3
#3170 [21:09] <Draglems1> "that can be built legally?"
#3171 [21:09] <nevercast> Kealper, say I start a wrapper up after the minecraft server./
#3172 [21:09] <Draglems1> ..What
#3173 [21:09] <l1nk> but, its not playing minecraft
#3174 [21:09] <TheNytangel> then build your own
#3175 [21:09] <Brosofocus> and the forums have no good info abou tit either
#3176 [21:09] <Julie> i use /give command but for wool i want change color of that : http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values#Wool
#3177 [21:09] <TheNytangel> again: build your own
#3178 [21:09] <TheNytangel> expiriment
#3179 [21:09] <Brosofocus> the spiders are ruining everything in this patch lol
#3180 [21:09] <TheNytangel> Julie
#3181 [21:09] <Kealper> nevercast: you'd have to screen the wrapper
#3182 [21:09] <Draglems1> Why do people say "legit"
#3183 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Julie - You can't, not without a mod
#3184 [21:09] <TheNytangel> you need to get the dyes
#3185 [21:09] <Draglems1> to mean "cool"
#3186 [21:09] <Mash> GreyVulpine, Anyway, my issue; Server's kicking me for not logging in but I have verify-names=off in server.properties
#3187 [21:09] <Julie> :/
#3188 [21:09] <Brosofocus> no
#3189 [21:10] <Brosofocus> i mean legit... as in not using 1000 op commands to make it
#3190 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Mash - Yes, delete server.properties, relaunch the minecraft_server
#3191 [21:10] <nevercast> Keaper, right.. that could be a bitch :D.. means changing my startup script
#3192 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Then, turn off online-mode
#3193 [21:10] <Draglems1> Legit means legal.
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#3195 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> verify-names is a classic server property
#3196 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Not beta
#3197 [21:11] <Julie> i think /give <name> <values>(/<spec>) <number> :)
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#3199 [21:12] <Mash> GreyVulpine, Kicking /127.0.0.1: You need to log in!
#3200 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes, then you're still using the classic server
#3201 [21:12] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
#3202 [21:12] <Mash> Also, deleting server.properties, verify-names still exists when it fetches a new one.
#3203 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> You need to download the beta server
#3204 [21:12] <Mash> !server
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#3206 [21:13] <TheNytangel> Julie: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
#3207 [21:13] <Smee> Anyone know how to connect to a minecraft server that's being ran on the same LAN?
#3208 [21:13] <Julie> TheNytangel i think
#3209 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Smee - Use the internal LAN ip of the server
#3210 [21:13] <Mash> So where's the right package then- Just the .jar?
#3211 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.x.y, or 10.x.y.z
#3212 [21:13] <Smee> I've tried, but it hangs.
#3213 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Mash - Whichever you want
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#3215 [21:13] <Smee> GreyVulpine: people can connect outside of the LAN though, using my external IP:port
#3216 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Are you running it on a windows, and just want to double click to run a server? Then use the .exe
#3217 [21:14] <Smee> GreyVulpine: it's on a linux box
#3218 [21:14] <Mash> How can i turn off online-mode in the gui then?
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#3220 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Smee - Did you happen to input an ip address in server-ip of server.properties
#3221 [21:14] <Draglems1> Why are servers so akward to set up?
#3222 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Mash - When you run the GUI, it'll generate server.properties
#3223 [21:14] <Draglems1> Why can't it just be; *Downloads program*
#3224 [21:14] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, how do i connect to my server again?
#3225 [21:14] <Draglems1> NAME: *Server name* LIMIT:*Limit*
#3226 [21:14] <Smee> GreyVulpine: I did not, is that required?
#3227 [21:14] <Draglems1> and then boom.
#3228 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Smee - No
#3229 [21:14] <Mash> In the same directory as the .exe?
#3230 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - 127.0.0.1
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#3232 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes Mash
#3233 [21:14] <Mash> kk, ty
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#3237 [21:15] <TheNytangel> >.>
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#3240 [21:17] <Mash> GreyVulpine, Sweet, works now.
#3241 [21:17] * GreyVulpine nods
#3241 [21:17] <Mash> And to put your mind at rest, moment I do purchase it (for myself and my brother) I'll let you guys know.
#3242 [21:18] <TheNytangel> somewhere.. over the rainbow
#3243 [21:18] <TheNytangel> way up high
#3244 [21:18] <Mash> Like a kite.
#3245 [21:18] <TheNytangel> !paid Mash
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#3247 [21:18] <TheNytangel> :P
#3248 [21:18] <Mash> That's because it's actually--
#3249 [21:18] <Mashuga> This one. :p
#3250 [21:18] <Mashuga> !paid Mashuga
#3251 [21:18] <Mashuga> Aw :(
#3252 [21:19] <TheNytangel> you havent paid -_-
#3253 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> I need a new redstone project.. hmm
#3254 [21:20] <TheNytangel> calculator/computer
#3255 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, been done.
#3256 [21:20] <TheNytangel> -_-
#3257 [21:20] <TheNytangel> you can come on my server and wire my double doors that has 2 switches?
#3258 [21:20] <TheNytangel> jk
#3259 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Sure, where at
#3260 [21:21] <TheNytangel> i dont have the IP, its someone elses server :P
#3261 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#3262 [21:21] <TheNytangel> but you can find something to do on my server
#3263 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#3264 [21:21] <TheNytangel> lol
#3265 [21:21] <TheNytangel> i meant my one hosted by someone else
#3266 [21:21] <TheNytangel> not the one that dont work yet
#3267 [21:25] <nevercast> My two favourite words
#3268 [21:25] <nevercast> 'Build Successful'
#3269 [21:25] <nevercast> :D
#3270 [21:27] <Kealper> lol
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#3273 [21:30] <l1nk> Yay just to say ive solved my problems xD thanks to you all for the help
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#3276 [21:33] <Smee> its been a while since I've played, are there hostile mobs in SMP yet?
#3277 [21:33] <xales> there have been for quite a while
#3278 [21:34] <Smee> okay, I guess a better question is, are there any large gameplay differences missing from SMP that are in SP?
#3279 [21:35] <xales> nope
#3280 [21:35] <Mashuga> GreyVulpine, Do I have to tunngle this for my brother to be able to connect or nah?
#3281 [21:36] <Mashuga> Have the ports forwarded, gave him the ip, etc etc
#3282 [21:36] <Smee> next dumb question, if I have a server running, how do I get updates to it?
#3283 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#3284 [21:36] <Mashuga> He can't connect to my server; I do have 25565 forwarded to my box
#3285 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Firewalls, security software?
#3286 [21:37] <Mashuga> None, winblows firewall disabled.
#3287 [21:37] <Mashuga> It should just be IP:port, right?
#3288 [21:37] <Mashuga> Or we have to use the minecraft.net server string?
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#3291 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> There's no server string for beta
#3292 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> You'll use your public ip address for people to connect with
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#3294 [21:39] <dopeghoti> Morning, kids
#3295 [21:40] <Mashuga> Wait, GreyVulpine if online-mode=off, that gonna stop it from working if it's not on my lan?
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#3297 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Um, that kinda depends on how people are connecting to it
#3298 [21:41] <Draglems1> If Bedrock's block resistence is 18,000,000..
#3299 [21:41] <Draglems1> does that mean it can actually break? it'd just take a long ass while?
#3300 [21:41] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Use linux?
#3301 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> ?
#3302 [21:41] <Mashuga> He's across town, he's just punching in my IP:25565 and it's not connecting
#3303 [21:41] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Do you use Linux?
#3304 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> No, I used to use *nix a few years back
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#3306 [21:42] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, How does the 'working directory' or the 'current directory' work in Linux?
#3307 [21:42] <Dreygon_DSC> Any idea why on a windows server install.. users can connect then get kicked with a must log in message?
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#3309 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: how do you mean?
#3310 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> nevercast - What do you mean?
#3311 [21:42] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, When I start a process from a path that isn't the directory of the executable.
#3312 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dreygon_DSC smp/needlogin
#3313 [21:42] <VoxelHead> Dreygon_DSC: (smp/needlogin) If you get the message "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!" when joining a server, you are attempting to join a Classic server.
#3314 [21:42] <nevercast> What's the working direcotyr?
#3315 [21:42] <VoxelHead> Dreygon_DSC: (smp/needlogin) If you are running the server, you downloaded the wrong software. The correct software is on the same page where you download the client.
#3316 [21:42] <nevercast> Is it my pwd, or is it the path of the process?
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#3318 [21:43] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: generally, your pwd.
#3319 [21:43] <nevercast> Say I'm currently in /root, and I call /home/minecraft/monitor
#3320 [21:43] <nevercast> It's working directory, will be /root
#3321 [21:43] <nevercast> ?
#3322 [21:43] <MYGTISRANDOM> any tips on how to reduce lag? :/
#3323 [21:43] <Dreygon_DSC> well shit.. thanks will look into that thanks guys
#3324 [21:43] <Mashuga> GreyVulpine, Are there any other ports needed, or just 25565?
#3325 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Mashuga - Just 25565/TCP
#3326 [21:43] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: easy to test. put a script in there with one line: 'echo `pwd`'
#3327 [21:43] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: then run that script
#3328 [21:43] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Thanks :)
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#3330 [21:44] <agarrett> do you lose buckets if you make a cake?
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#3332 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so
#3333 [21:44] <DopeGhoti> agarrett: no
#3334 [21:44] <MYGTISRANDOM> hey guys tips on how to reduce lag guys
#3335 [21:44] <agarrett> good
#3336 [21:44] <agarrett> i can make caek then!
#3337 [21:45] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, echo $(pwd)
#3338 [21:46] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, it returned /root
#3339 [21:46] <Draglems1> !wiki The_Fith_Dimenson
#3340 [21:46] <Draglems1> ...Aw.
#3341 [21:46] <the_late_man> heh
#3342 [21:46] <the_late_man> !wiki 4d
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#3344 [21:51] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, String appPath = Path.GetDirectoryName(System.Reflection.Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly().Location); \r\n Directory.SetCurrentDirectory(appPath);
#3345 [21:51] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Fixed :D
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#3347 [21:52] <aetherian> guh
#3348 [21:53] <Mashuga> GreyVulpine, ?
#3349 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> ?
#3350 [21:53] <Mashuga> Sent a /msg >,>
#3351 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> bah, I never see my /msgs
#3352 [21:53] <DopeGhoti> ?? irc/dontpm
#3353 [21:53] <VoxelHead> irc/dontpm: We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#3354 [21:54] <Mashuga> Was posting an IP:Port
#3355 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I have dozens of windows open on my IRC client. /msgs don't catch my eye
#3356 [21:54] <aetherian> so?
#3357 [21:54] <aetherian> they catch ones eye in a gui client...
#3358 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Heh, not on mine
#3359 [21:54] <Mashuga> So I didn't want everybody spamming connections to it lol
#3360 [21:54] <aetherian> irssi?
#3361 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> mIRC
#3362 [21:55] <Mashuga> xchat > all :o
#3363 [21:55] * aetherian facepalms
#3363 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> I've used mIRC since before time
#3364 [21:55] <aetherian> mIRC... you have got to be kidding me
#3365 [21:55] <DopeGhoti> Mashuga: xchat's all right, but I've come to love irssi
#3366 [21:55] <nevercast> lol
#3367 [21:55] <aetherian> I use PChat.
#3368 [21:55] <aetherian> :D
#3369 [21:55] <mcserver> irssi is lovely :D
#3370 [21:55] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: later we'll hear that LG_Lecacy usually uses mibbit.
#3371 [21:55] <Mashuga> I used to be a Polaris monger- Got over that when I started Ubuntu a couple years back.
#3372 [21:56] <nevercast> I think everyone should just use IceChat :)
#3373 [21:56] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti?
#3374 [21:56] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel?
#3375 [21:56] <TheNytangel> work or home?
#3376 [21:56] <nevercast> TheNytangel, true!
#3377 [21:56] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
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#3379 [21:56] <nevercast> ^
#3380 [21:56] <Mashuga> online-mode=off doesn't stop external (to my LAN) connections, does it?
#3381 [21:56] <TheNytangel> what?
#3382 [21:57] <nevercast> TheNytangel, He's work || home
#3383 [21:57] <nevercast> :)
#3384 [21:57] <TheNytangel> hes working at home..
#3385 [21:57] <nevercast> ..
#3386 [21:57] <nevercast> he's work OR home.
#3387 [21:57] <nevercast> WTF
#3388 [21:58] <TheNytangel> well i want him to fix my network >:(
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#3390 [21:58] <nevercast> TheNytangel, LOL oh you the dude with the shitty two router setup?
#3391 [21:59] <TheNytangel> 1 router
#3392 [21:59] <nevercast> Modem routes :P
#3393 [21:59] <Mashuga> What's the alternative to Tunngle? I can't remember it's name :x
#3394 [21:59] <aetherian> .-.
#3395 [21:59] <aetherian> herobrine is not cool. IS NOT COOL.
#3396 [21:59] <Mashuga> It's like Hyrule or something like that lol
#3397 [21:59] <TheNytangel> whatever
#3398 [21:59] <TheNytangel> then yes
#3399 [21:59] <bildramer> I have Herobrine reserved
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#3401 [22:00] <bildramer> /ns ghost
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#3403 [22:00] <bildramer> <3
#3404 [22:00] <aetherian> YARLY
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#3406 [22:00] <xales> bildramer
#3407 [22:00] <xales> i gave it back to you :<
#3408 [22:00] <bildramer> yes :>
#3409 [22:00] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#3410 [22:00] <Mashuga> GreyVulpine, alternative to tunngle?
#3411 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> I don't know tunngle
#3412 [22:00] <xales> If you mean Hamachi, I highly reccomend against using it
#3413 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> I usually just port forward here.
#3414 [22:00] <xales> see:
#3415 [22:00] <xales> ?? fubar/hamachi
#3416 [22:01] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#3417 [22:01] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#3418 [22:01] <TheNytangel> wait
#3419 [22:01] <Mashuga> Oh, bleh.
#3420 [22:01] <TheNytangel> aetherian is notch's brother?
#3421 [22:01] <Mashuga> I have the ports forwarded and the correct IP; I just hosted a L4D2 ded-server on this box to make sure, and he was able to connect fine
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#3423 [22:02] * DopeGhoti waits.
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#3424 [22:03] <Mashuga> GreyVulpine, are you hosting a server now that I can try to connect to?
#3425 [22:04] <nevercast> LOL
#3426 [22:04] <nevercast> Mashuga, I'm always hosting
#3427 [22:04] <nevercast> ( except for when i'm changing it )
#3428 [22:04] <Mashuga> I just need a server with online-mode=false to try to connect to. I'm having a connection issue and I don't think it's incoming.
#3429 [22:04] <nevercast> Mashuga, It has online-mode=false
#3430 [22:05] <nevercast> Mashuga, mcserver user.. whois it
#3431 [22:05] <nevercast> 209.236.121.210
#3432 [22:05] <nevercast> Mashuga, That's an offline server that's online :D ^
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#3434 [22:06] <Mashuga> wtf, I can connect to that one fine
#3435 [22:06] <nevercast> :D
#3436 [22:06] <nevercast> My server is awesome
#3437 [22:06] <nevercast> that's why
#3438 [22:06] <Mashuga> (just dropped too, thanks)
#3439 [22:06] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, what TV do you have? 4, 5, 6...
#3440 [22:06] <DopeGhoti> I have a Sony Bravia, but I don't see how that's related.
#3441 [22:06] <TheNytangel> teamviewer..
#3442 [22:07] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, LOL
#3443 [22:07] <DopeGhoti> six.
#3444 [22:07] <Mashuga> kk; mc server is on this box, behind a router (I'm DMZ'd atm) and the client here can't connect to it via external ip
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#3447 [22:08] <Kouki> Hey guys, i'll try to setup my own survival server but clients (and me) stuck on "logging in" ... I'm on windows 7 , anyone can help me ? (ports 25565 it's open and i'v no firwall)
#3448 [22:08] <xales> Kouki: are you able to join other Survival servers?
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#3450 [22:09] <Kouki> Yes
#3451 [22:09] <xales> Kouki: can you try joining 'smp.shadow-craft.net' just to test?
#3452 [22:09] <Kouki> Ok
#3453 [22:09] <Mashuga> Nevermind guys, I got it working, thank you ^^
#3454 [22:09] <DopeGhoti> Mashuga: that'll be £8.
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#3456 [22:09] <Kouki> Got
#3457 [22:10] * nevercast lols!
#3457 [22:10] <Mashuga> Pounds? I'm US :(
#3458 [22:10] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, You crack me up ,3
#3459 [22:10] <nevercast> <3
#3460 [22:10] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, whenever you want to connect, hl or pm me.
#3461 [22:10] <nevercast> TheNytangel.
#3462 [22:10] <Kouki> Xales, it's done
#3463 [22:10] * DopeGhoti half-lifes TheNytangel
#3463 [22:10] <TheNytangel> nevercast.
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#3465 [22:10] <nevercast> Just testing highlighting works.. Thanks TheNytangel
#3466 [22:11] <TheNytangel> lol
#3467 [22:11] <TheNytangel> hl = highlight
#3468 [22:11] * DopeGhoti wonders if nevercast's testing of pinging TheNytangel was successful.
#3468 [22:11] <Kouki> Xales :) ?
#3469 [22:11] <xales> Kouki: are you running any sort of mods on the server?
#3470 [22:11] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, I didn't ping him
#3471 [22:11] <Kouki> No
#3472 [22:11] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Okay I did.
#3473 [22:11] <Kouki> just basic server soft
#3474 [22:11] <TheNytangel> -_-
#3475 [22:11] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Ping me :D
#3476 [22:11] <xales> Kouki: and you have no firewall running, including Windows Firewall?
#3477 [22:11] <nevercast> ew
#3478 [22:12] <nevercast> Get your finger out of there.
#3479 [22:12] <Kouki> Yes
#3480 [22:12] <xales> Kouki: Antivirus? =/
#3481 [22:12] <Kouki> no...
#3482 [22:12] <Kouki> i'm lost
#3483 [22:12] <Kouki> (Sorry i'm french ;p)
#3484 [22:12] * xales pokes DopeGhoti
#3484 [22:13] <Kouki> I don't have any antivirus ... and firewall it's not running :(
#3485 [22:13] * DopeGhoti develops a fast-leak, and rapidly deflates, pthbpthbpthbpthbpthbing all over the place
#3485 [22:13] <xales> Kouki: what firewall is it? some cause problems even if they are of
#3486 [22:13] <Kouki> Windows firewall
#3487 [22:13] <Kouki> i have not other firewall
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#3489 [22:14] <xales> can you pastebin (http://pastebin.com/) the server.properties file?
#3490 [22:14] <Kouki> and when i host a "creative server" it's totally works
#3491 [22:14] <Kouki> (on port 25565
#3492 [22:14] <Kouki> ok
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#3494 [22:14] * DopeGhoti checks his watch.
#3494 [22:14] <xales> DopeGhoti: you are late. sorry.
#3495 [22:14] <Kouki> http://pastebin.com/cBj8C035
#3496 [22:14] * DopeGhoti is now known as The_Late_DopeGhoti
#3496 [22:15] <nevercast> Err
#3497 [22:15] <xales> Kouki: change white-list to "white-list=false"
#3498 [22:15] <Kouki> I'have already try ;)
#3499 [22:15] <Kouki> Don't work
#3500 [22:15] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: What are you wating for, an engraved invitation?
#3501 [22:15] <TheNytangel> -_-
#3502 [22:15] <TheNytangel> yeah.. so i can stop playing mc
#3503 [22:16] <DopeGhoti> It might take a couple days to get there.
#3504 [22:16] <TheNytangel> ID: 442 106 308
#3505 [22:16] <TheNytangel> Password: 2126
#3506 [22:16] <xales> Kouki: it should be off anyway =/
#3507 [22:16] <TheNytangel> I'm posessed!
#3508 [22:16] <TheNytangel> lol
#3509 [22:17] <Kouki> Xales : thank you anyway =/
#3510 [22:18] <Kouki> thanks*
#3511 [22:18] <xales> thank was correct :)
#3512 [22:19] <xales> anyway, I'm not entirely sure why it would do that except for the whitelist thing
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#3514 [22:19] <Kouki> i can retry whitliste false but ... :s
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#3517 [22:21] <Kouki> don't works :((((((((((
#3518 [22:21] <Julie> an question again :)
#3519 [22:22] <Julie> can i edit my world with a prog mapper ?
#3520 [22:22] <xales> Julie: yes, you can use a program like MCEdit
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#3522 [22:23] <Julie> xales thx and :)
#3523 [22:23] <xales> Kouki: try re-downloading the server .exe file
#3524 [22:23] <Julie> what's is the best of mappers prog ?
#3525 [22:24] <xales> MCEdit, probably
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#3528 [22:24] <Julie> and viewmap ?
#3529 [22:24] <Kouki> i have re-downloading file for 89999999999999999999999999999999999 ;(
#3530 [22:24] <xales> never heard of viewnet
#3531 [22:25] <Julie> what's different with map generator ?
#3532 [22:25] <xales> Kouki: try going to http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=xales
#3533 [22:25] <xales> Julie: a map generator makes a map for you. a map editor changes a map
#3534 [22:26] <Julie> and mappers ? :)
#3535 [22:26] <xales> "mappers"?
#3536 [22:26] <Kouki> "tru"
#3537 [22:26] <Kouki> "true" :p
#3538 [22:26] <DopeGhoti> !check 65.19.250.8
#3539 [22:26] <Julie> yes on the wiki it's different between mappers and map editor
#3540 [22:27] <xales> Julie: I'm not sure, but a mapper is probably someone who makes maps. The wiki is stupid
#3541 [22:27] <Julie> lol
#3542 [22:28] <Julie> viewnet what's that ?
#3543 [22:28] <xales> I don't know
#3544 [22:28] <DopeGhoti> !check 65.19.250.8
#3545 [22:29] <DopeGhoti> I hate nested NAT.
#3546 [22:30] <Julie> xales i search the viewer again :)
#3547 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> You okay DopeGhoti?
#3548 [22:30] <DopeGhoti> I'm fine, TheNytangel's dealing with some crappy POS modemrouter in front of a router
#3549 [22:31] <TheNytangel> lol
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#3553 [22:32] <sardo97> i hate mac updates.... they take for ever
#3554 [22:33] <TheNytangel> I need to notive that DopeGhoti left me at a login page that I need to log in to.
#3555 [22:33] <TheNytangel> and also notice.
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#3557 [22:35] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, its your turn
#3558 [22:35] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti cant figure it out
#3559 [22:36] <BadNetMan> ono
#3560 [22:36] <BadNetMan> it's the antiglados D:
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#3562 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3563 [22:37] <Gengar91> I need help, and this says help, so I am at the right place?
#3564 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#3567 [22:38] <Gengar91> Well when I try to host a server (I forwarded the ports) everything on the list seems normal. Then it says " [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? "
#3568 [22:38] <TheNytangel> im making an HTML file about my "crummy ISP"
#3569 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> That's normal
#3570 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Ignore it Gengar91
#3571 [22:39] <Gengar91> Okay. Thanks!
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#3574 [22:40] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine
#3575 [22:40] <Kaito> so, is there any other way to kill a slime besides drowning them?
#3576 [22:41] <TheNytangel> sword
#3577 [22:41] <TheNytangel> bow and arrows
#3578 [22:41] <TheNytangel> shovel
#3579 [22:41] <TheNytangel> axe
#3580 [22:41] <TheNytangel> pick
#3581 [22:41] <Kaito> They dont work for me
#3582 [22:41] <Kaito> I cant kill the small ones
#3583 [22:41] <Kaito> they just push me around
#3584 [22:41] <TheNytangel> hit them
#3585 [22:41] <Kaito> punching them wont work
#3586 [22:41] <Kaito> they are immune to lava
#3587 [22:41] <TheNytangel> they are like chickens
#3588 [22:41] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine
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#3591 [22:43] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, if you wanna come back on to try something, just ask
#3592 [22:43] <DopeGhoti> ??+ smp/slimes|If you see immortal slimes, just disconnect and reconnect; the immortal ones will disappear upon reconnection.
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#3595 [22:45] * Kealper rawrs
#3595 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3596 [22:46] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, if you wanna try fix it.. DopeGhoti cant
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#3598 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Sure, um, I can try...
#3599 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Please PM the ID and password to me
#3600 [22:47] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: When I left it, the modemrouter was forwarded to his BelkinRouter, which had his windows box DMZed.
#3601 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Sure.
#3602 [22:51] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, that should have worked lol.
#3603 [22:51] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Although if it was me.. I'd go and redo his whole network depending on how many computers he had
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#3605 [22:54] <Julie> xales here ?
#3606 [22:54] <xales> yes
#3607 [22:54] <Julie> what's the good viewmap ?
#3608 [22:54] <xales> viewmap?
#3609 [22:57] <gothroach> Map renderer?
#3610 [22:58] <Julie> yes
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#3612 [23:00] <mr_fribble> anyone round?
#3613 [23:00] <lemon-rev> no
#3614 [23:00] <lemon-rev> lol ask
#3615 [23:00] <mr_fribble> Im having trouble updating to 1.3
#3616 [23:00] <lemon-rev> whats up, with the program ?
#3617 [23:01] <lemon-rev> what does it do
#3618 [23:01] <xales> mr_fribble: what is the trouble?
#3619 [23:01] <mr_fribble> It does this to me... Not sure why
#3620 [23:01] <mr_fribble> http://tinypic.com/m/e7cbaf/1
#3621 [23:01] <Julie> xales map renderer ;)
#3622 [23:02] <mr_fribble> any ideas?
#3623 [23:02] <xales> ??> mr_fribble mac/reinst
#3624 [23:02] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3625 [23:02] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3627 [23:03] <xales> Julie: I don't use any mylself
#3628 [23:03] <Julie> ha ok
#3629 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - TheNytangel's all set
#3630 [23:04] <TheNytangel> dang you
#3631 [23:04] <TheNytangel> i died
#3632 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> You got everything, but the modem/router to modem port forward
#3633 [23:04] <DopeGhoti> There was a third NAT?
#3634 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> No
#3635 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Starting from the bottom up
#3636 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> His computer is 192.168.2.3
#3637 [23:04] <mr_fribble> wow, VoxelHead, I love you! It worked, ive been trying to fix it for like 3 days!
#3638 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Pulling a DHCP from 192.168.2.1, his belkin
#3639 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> His belkin has an ip address of 192.168.10.100, from his modem
#3640 [23:05] <mr_fribble> Cheers mate
#3641 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> right, which was getting a .10.x from his modem
#3642 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> His modem has 192.168.10.1
#3643 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> You were port forwarding 25565 to 192.168.2.1 from his modem
#3644 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> *facepalm*
#3645 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> When you should've port forwarded to 10.100
#3646 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> yeah
#3647 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> that's a shinkick right there.
#3648 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> You did all the hard work though, so blarg
#3649 [23:05] <DopeGhoti> heh
#3650 [23:06] <DopeGhoti> By our powers combined.. something?
#3651 [23:06] * GreyVulpine snrks
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#3652 [23:06] <TheNytangel> well
#3653 [23:06] <TheNytangel> it was fun, wasnt it?
#3654 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, there was no challenge there, DopeGhoti did all the work.
#3655 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Just forgot one tiny mistake
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#3659 [23:11] <dr_bibble> hey when i try to run the classic version single player it says it cant read the memory or something any ideas
#3660 [23:11] <xales> dr_bibble: what exactly does it say?
#3661 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Can you give us the exact error?
#3662 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Post it at pastebin.com if it's long, and give us the URL
#3663 [23:12] <dr_bibble> ok hang on
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#3666 [23:14] <TheNytangel> if i change something in server.properties, do i need to restart my server?
#3667 [23:14] <xales> yes
#3668 [23:15] <PinkFloyd> Anyone here familiar with MineOS?
#3669 [23:15] <xales> PinkFloyd: not really - what's the problem though?
#3670 [23:15] <TheNytangel> and i can change the server IP in the server.properties? :D lol jk im not gonna do that
#3671 [23:15] <PinkFloyd> The console isnt generating maps
#3672 [23:16] <xales> PinkFloyd: it might not have been updated for 1.3
#3673 [23:16] <PinkFloyd> Hm true
#3674 [23:16] <TheNytangel> xales, is it possible to add a welcome message?
#3675 [23:17] <xales> TheNytangel: with a mod or wrapper
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#3677 [23:17] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3678 [23:17] <TheNytangel> does it have vanilla?
#3679 [23:17] <xales> TheNytangel: vanilla can't do it, no
#3680 [23:17] <TheNytangel> never mind
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#3682 [23:17] <TheNytangel> i meant like the commands like /give or /tp
#3683 [23:18] <xales> those are vanilla
#3684 [23:18] <PinkFloyd> Also
#3685 [23:19] <PinkFloyd> Is there a way to enable certain "levels" in the game? I saw something somewhere about builder and advanced builder
#3686 [23:19] <PinkFloyd> Or is that a mod
#3687 [23:19] <xales> mod
#3688 [23:19] <PinkFloyd> Which?
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#3690 [23:19] <xales> there are several
#3691 [23:19] <mib_av7cv7> when i try to play the minecraft classic it says the instruction at "0x026d2cb5". reference memory at "0x0be4a3fc" the memory can not be" read"
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#3693 [23:20] <PinkFloyd> Any that are compatible with MineOS and won't change it too much
#3694 [23:20] <xales> ??> mib_av7cv7 win/dxdiag
#3695 [23:20] <VoxelHead> mib_av7cv7: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3696 [23:20] <VoxelHead> mib_av7cv7: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3697 [23:20] <xales> PinkFloyd: I don't know what MineOS supports
#3698 [23:20] <PinkFloyd> Ok I'll rephrase
#3699 [23:20] <PinkFloyd> Any that work with 1.3 :p
#3700 [23:20] <xales> PinkFloyd: I know Bukkit does
#3701 [23:20] <PinkFloyd> MineOS won't download bukkit >_>
#3702 [23:20] <xales> Bukkit is just an API for other stuff, like Permissions (which I believe does what you want)
#3703 [23:21] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, my server IP was 65.19.250.8:25565?
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#3706 [23:22] <megadud20> does anyone know if there is going to be a new cartographer soon?
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#3708 [23:22] <imabadmibbit> are there any servers online?
#3709 [23:23] <TheNytangel> yes
#3710 [23:23] <TheNytangel> what is a cartographer
#3711 [23:23] <imabadmibbit> i want a good one to play on for a bit
#3712 [23:23] <TheNytangel> 69.65.43.33:27365
#3713 [23:24] <megadud20> its the map making thing... people have compared it to a GPS... its not actally Notch approved
#3714 [23:24] <imabadmibbit> i have sorta ran out of iron ore to finish my minecart bridge
#3715 [23:24] <Julie> Tectonicus is a real time 's renderer ?
#3716 [23:24] <TheNytangel> MCEdit?
#3717 [23:24] <TheNytangel> imabadmibbit: 69.65.43.33:27365
#3718 [23:25] <megadud20> whats MCEdit?
#3719 [23:25] <imabadmibbit> I would like to know as well
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#3722 [23:25] <TheNytangel> idk
#3723 [23:25] <TheNytangel> people use it
#3724 [23:25] <TheNytangel> ive heard of it
#3725 [23:26] <imabadmibbit> to do what
#3726 [23:26] <megadud20> is it anything like INVEdit?
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#3728 [23:26] <imabadmibbit> nytang
#3729 [23:26] <imabadmibbit> you kicked me
#3730 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> It's a map editor
#3731 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Like InvEdit does inventory editing
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#3733 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> MCedit does for maps
#3734 [23:27] <megadud20> so does it work with the newest version of mc?
#3735 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3736 [23:27] <mib_av7cv7> http://pastebin.com/wpgm3He3
#3737 [23:27] <megadud20> whats that link?
#3738 [23:27] <imabadmibbit> whats the server for the enterprize?
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#3740 [23:28] <DopeGhoti> Is there anything to.. _do_ with slimeballs?
#3741 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3742 [23:29] <xales> mib_av7cv7: reinstall Java
#3743 [23:29] <mib_av7cv7> hey foxelhead this is the link http://pastebin.com/wpgm3He3
#3744 [23:29] <mib_av7cv7> i ment voxelhead
#3745 [23:29] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3746 [23:29] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
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#3748 [23:30] <xales> mib_av7cv7: VoxelHead is a bot
#3749 [23:30] <xales> mib_av7cv7: reinstall Java
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#3752 [23:31] <aetherian> either someone's downloading stuff, or I just got made into a botnet...
#3753 [23:33] <Jackson413> bukkit or.....
#3754 [23:34] <Jackson413> can anyone tell me what mod they run if it isnt bukkit?
#3755 [23:34] <xales> ?? mods
#3756 [23:34] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3757 [23:34] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#3759 [23:34] <Julie> hey who use Tectonicus ?
#3760 [23:34] <Jackson413> huh there are other mods out there
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#3762 [23:36] <killergut> hello
#3763 [23:37] <the_late_man> yo
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#3765 [23:39] <TheNytangel> :(
#3766 [23:39] <TheNytangel> none of my programs are responding
#3767 [23:39] <TheNytangel> they dun like me
#3768 [23:41] <TheNytangel> and..
#3769 [23:41] <TheNytangel> http://i.imgur.com/n3Cgm.png
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#3771 [23:47] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine
#3772 [23:47] <TheNytangel> in the server.properties, should i set my IP?
#3773 [23:47] <xales> TheNytangel: no
#3774 [23:47] <TheNytangel> why not
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#3776 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> No
#3777 [23:47] <TheNytangel> again.. why not
#3778 [23:47] <TheNytangel> what is the IP people use to connect?
#3779 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Whatismyip.com
#3780 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> That ip addres that's provided to you there
#3781 [23:48] <TheNytangel> :25565?
#3782 [23:48] <nevercast> Whatismyip.org!!
#3783 [23:48] <nevercast> RAGE
#3784 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> If it hasn't been changed from default, nobody needs to add it at the end
#3785 [23:48] <nevercast> *.com is full of ads and crap
#3786 [23:48] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#3786 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> But it's big, and blue
#3787 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> And people can't miss it
#3788 [23:49] <nevercast> You can't miss it if it's the only thing on the page either
#3789 [23:49] <TheNytangel> so
#3790 [23:49] <TheNytangel> 65.19.250.8:25565?
#3791 [23:49] <nevercast> TheNytangel, probably
#3792 [23:49] <TheNytangel> can YOU connect to it?
#3793 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Just 65.19.250.8
#3794 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3795 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> I did, remember?
#3796 [23:49] <TheNytangel> just 65.19.250.8
#3797 [23:49] <TheNytangel> no port?
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#3799 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> No port
#3800 [23:49] <BadNetMan> aurgh
#3801 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> 25565 is the default port
#3802 [23:50] <TheNytangel> no port
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#3804 [23:50] <TheNytangel> when someone is connecting, could they use the port?
#3805 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> The client will automatically try 25565 as the port, you don't need to fill it in
#3806 [23:50] <TheNytangel> or would it not let them connect
#3807 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Sure, they could..
#3808 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Just more typing
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#3810 [23:51] <TheNytangel> how come it wont let my sister connect?
#3811 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Do you see anything in the server's console?
#3812 [23:52] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Can files be transfered over ssh?
#3813 [23:52] <TheNytangel> like?
#3814 [23:52] <xales> nevercast: sftp
#3815 [23:52] <nevercast> Oh ftp
#3816 [23:52] <nevercast> wonder if my server has a daemon for that
#3817 [23:52] <xales> sftp = over ssh
#3818 [23:52] <TheNytangel> and no, there is nothing in there except from when i disconnected
#3819 [23:52] <xales> you can use sftp if you have ssh running
#3820 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Hold on, is that the right IP address?
#3821 [23:53] <TheNytangel> yeah
#3822 [23:53] <xales> it logs in the same, even with certificates and such
#3823 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Is the server up?
#3824 [23:53] <TheNytangel> mhmm
#3825 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> !check 65.19.250.8
#3826 [23:53] <TheNytangel> hold on
#3827 [23:53] <TheNytangel> it just said: [INFO] /67.177.131.104:55372 lost connection
#3828 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> I can connect just fine
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#3830 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> That's probably me
#3831 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> or was me with !check
#3832 [23:54] <TheNytangel> hmm
#3833 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Is your sister in the same house?
#3834 [23:54] <TheNytangel> yeah
#3835 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> have her try 192.168.2.3
#3836 [23:54] <TheNytangel> ok..
#3837 [23:54] <Vikingr> Where is the right place to go to to request server invites?
#3838 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> #SMP
#3839 [23:55] <TheNytangel> ^
#3840 [23:55] <Vikingr> Thanks :)
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#3842 [23:55] <Vikingr> For like... Creative games
#3843 [23:55] <TheNytangel> Grey, ill have her try it tomorrow
#3844 [23:55] <TheNytangel> she is sleeping and if i wake her up, she will just yell at me
#3845 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> 'kay
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#3847 [23:56] <TheNytangel> but, im going to go sleep too
#3848 [23:56] <TheNytangel> so bye
#3849 [23:56] <TheNytangel> ill leave my server running if you wanna build anything..
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#3851 [23:56] <TheNytangel> be on tomorrow
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