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#2 [00:00] <sardo97> can someone enter a server and tell me what they see?
#3 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#4 [00:01] <BarryCarlyon> I see creesssssss *BOOMU*
#5 [00:01] <sardo97> because im goining my fav server and its sending me to the nether
#6 [00:01] <sardo97> mc.neonshift.com
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#8 [00:01] <octeris> Anyone know why a LAN server would be having tons of overflow errors and lots of lag? Any help would be great..
#9 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Holy crap
#10 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's the nether alright
#11 [00:01] <sardo97> wait there let me join
#12 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Your server admin most likely switched hell-world to true
#13 [00:02] <sardo97> Oh...
#14 [00:03] <xales> !paid kinota1
#15 [00:03] <octeris> GreyVulpine: Are you telling me that?
#16 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> No octeris, was for sardo97
#17 [00:03] <octeris> GreyVulpine: kk
#18 [00:03] <sardo97> What?
#19 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> The nether server]
#20 [00:04] <sardo97> Oh,
#21 [00:04] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: yes, with scp or sftp
#22 [00:04] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, I set up vsftpd.. I'm gonna hope that is a sftp daemon
#23 [00:04] <octeris> GreyVulpine: I'm getting lots of chunk errors and blocks returning after being destroyed with a LAN server. The network connection shouldn't be a problem. Is the server .exe bugged currently?
#24 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> It is octeris
#25 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> It's a pretty common problem for 1.3 right now
#26 [00:05] <octeris> GreyVulpine: Okay, thank you for the confirmation.
#27 [00:05] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Know where I can buy cheap domains?
#28 [00:06] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: sshd is an sftp daemon
#29 [00:07] <DopeGhoti> as for cheap domains.. what TLD?
#30 [00:07] <nevercast> probably .net or .org
#31 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> For later consumption: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=190756
#32 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Link to threads on the FPS/lag/block appearing/whatever problems on SMP
#33 [00:08] * GreyVulpine points octeris to it
#33 [00:09] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, .net or .org?
#34 [00:09] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: namecheap.com; dotster.com
#35 [00:09] <xales> nevercast: sftp = ssh
#36 [00:09] <xales> more or les
#37 [00:09] <xales> s
#38 [00:10] <nevercast> xales, I know
#39 [00:10] <nevercast> xales, I was just confirming my daemon was an sftp daemon
#40 [00:10] <xales> sshd is an sftp daemon
#41 [00:10] <xales> you should just use that
#42 [00:10] <xales> <.<
#43 [00:10] <nevercast> xales, I tried sshd
#44 [00:10] <nevercast> there were no results
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#46 [00:10] <nevercast> aptitude suggested vsftpd
#47 [00:11] <xales> nevercast: no
#48 [00:11] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: if sshd is running, you _have_ an scp, ssh, and sftp server
#49 [00:11] <xales> ^
#50 [00:11] <DopeGhoti> they're all the same
#51 [00:11] <xales> ^
#52 [00:11] <DopeGhoti> FTP != SFTP
#53 [00:11] <xales> ^
#54 [00:11] <nevercast> hmm
#55 [00:11] <nevercast> okay
#56 [00:11] <nevercast> one sec
#57 [00:11] <DopeGhoti> (also, if you're using Windows, install FileZilla. Like, right now)
#58 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=190756
#59 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you can do about it
#60 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> I get it on my local LAN server as well
#61 [00:12] <Kealper> damn, so it's not his internet, my internet, or my server?
#62 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> used to handle it just fine before 1.3
#63 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#64 [00:13] <Kealper> speaking of which
#65 [00:13] <Kealper> you know what
#66 [00:13] <Kealper> i get that EXACT same thing if i connect via localhost on this machine
#67 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> *nod*
#68 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> I get it via localhost, and on another computer on my LAN
#69 [00:13] <Kealper> but on this exact same machine, if i connect with my external it works perfectly fine
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#71 [00:14] <MK> Updated :O how does it look? http://mk.sepwich.com/Minecraft/id.html
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#73 [00:16] <MK> er wait
#74 [00:16] * MK upload the html lol
#74 [00:17] <MK> there we go
#75 [00:18] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, If I was windows.. I would already have FileZilla
#76 [00:18] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, BUT I'm not.. I'm Linux.
#77 [00:18] <nevercast> Debian :D
#78 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> Even better.
#79 [00:19] <nevercast> Indeed.
#80 [00:19] <nevercast> I've been pure Linux for over a year now..
#81 [00:19] <nevercast> ( I say it like I've been in rehab after windows )
#82 [00:19] <nevercast> AND I HAVE!
#83 [00:19] <nevercast> They should have AA meetings for that shit.
#84 [00:20] <AG_Scott> nevercast, there's #ubuntu-beginners
#85 [00:20] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I'm not a beginner.. But thanks :)
#86 [00:20] <AG_Scott> I love that channel.
#87 [00:21] <AG_Scott> I'm not either but when I have an issue, it's the place to go.
#88 [00:21] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Is there a way to protect myself from getting whoid'z stalked on my domain?
#89 [00:21] <AG_Scott> "domain whois protection"
#90 [00:21] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Is that done through the site, or ICANN ?
#91 [00:21] <MK> Heh
#92 [00:21] <AG_Scott> It can cost extra.
#93 [00:21] <MK> Ubuntu :3
#94 [00:21] <AG_Scott> You basically pay your registrar to collect mail for you etc
#95 [00:23] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Oh mail could be nice.. but I don't want nobodies stalking me
#96 [00:23] <nevercast> I like being anon :D
#97 [00:23] <nevercast> and sticking a phone number and address to 'nevercast'
#98 [00:23] <nevercast> isn't very stealth
#99 [00:23] <AG_Scott> I just use my P.O. Box and google phone number
#100 [00:23] <nevercast> AG_Scott, Really? Okay.. Do you wanna hand those over private on in here?
#101 [00:23] <AG_Scott> what? lol
#102 [00:23] <banana> Anyone got a creative server I can join?
#103 [00:23] <AG_Scott> If you really wanna be pro, just rent a box in a gas station or something.
#104 [00:24] <AG_Scott> They don't collect personal info
#105 [00:24] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I could get a PO box but they are not free
#106 [00:24] <AG_Scott> Bleh it's like $36 a yea
#107 [00:24] <AG_Scott> r
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#109 [00:25] <nevercast> Fuck it
#110 [00:25] <nevercast> I'll stick my address on it
#111 [00:25] <AG_Scott> Anyways about #ubuntu-beginners, it's a small channel and they're willing to help.
#112 [00:25] <nevercast> Oh
#113 [00:25] <nevercast> like here :)
#114 [00:25] <nevercast> and unlike #bukkit
#115 [00:25] <AG_Scott> #ubuntu is like 500 circuses mixed together
#116 [00:29] <MK> Which network is that ubuntu channel on?
#117 [00:29] <banana> Where can a poor newbie find a creative server?
#118 [00:29] <the_late_man> whenever I see huge channels, I get the urge to ping the whole channel
#119 [00:30] <AG_Scott> freenode
#120 [00:30] <the_late_man> what about it?
#121 [00:30] <MK> ah ok
#122 [00:30] <the_late_man> oh
#123 [00:30] <the_late_man> ugh, my internet is crappy
#124 [00:30] <banana> "Help" my ass :\
#125 [00:30] <nevercast> AG_Scott, My domain supplier offers Free WhoisGuard
#126 [00:31] <AG_Scott> Then use that :P
#127 [00:31] <nevercast> :D
#128 [00:31] <AG_Scott> http://whois.domaintools.com/mau5ville.com
#129 [00:31] <AG_Scott> It'll look like this sort of
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#132 [00:39] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I own nevercast.net now..
#133 [00:40] <nevercast> AG_Scott, How do I assign that to my server?
#134 [00:41] <AG_Scott> Setup DNS and point an A record?
#135 [00:42] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I'm with their DNS servers I believe
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#138 [00:49] <nevercast> AG_Scott, This interface SUCKS!! But I think I did it right.. How long does it take it to update? average?
#139 [00:51] <AG_Scott> Umm, 48 hours since it's a new domain
#140 [00:51] <nevercast> AG_Scott, That sucks because the default address for it goes to free domains.com
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#142 [00:51] <nevercast> and I just changed it from that
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#145 [01:11] <aetherian> good
#146 [01:11] <aetherian> did a soft reboot on the router
#147 [01:12] <imabadmibbit> so who has a good server online
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#151 [01:19] <EmpiresBane_> O.o
#152 [01:19] <EmpiresBane_> i forgot this was open
#153 [01:19] <aetherian> haha
#154 [01:20] <aetherian> I can't get irc to work over my cmd >.>
#155 [01:20] <aetherian> sorry if I spam the channel ;o
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#157 [01:20] <EmpiresBane> it wouldn't let me change my nick for some dumb reason
#158 [01:21] <nevercast> Woo!
#159 [01:21] <nevercast> My domain works
#160 [01:21] <nevercast> nevercast.net is active
#161 [01:21] <aetherian> dammit, this is annoying
#162 [01:21] <nevercast> aetherian, over your what?
#163 [01:22] <aetherian> using my command prompt to connect to IRC
#164 [01:22] <aetherian> I'm learning this so that when my client crashed
#165 [01:22] <nevercast> aetherian, You don't use a command prompt to connect to irc.
#166 [01:22] <aetherian> you can
#167 [01:22] <nevercast> you use an application that is terminal based.
#168 [01:22] <nevercast> aetherian, what are you using?
#169 [01:22] <aetherian> I'm so close...
#170 [01:22] <nevercast> aetherian, what are you using?
#171 [01:23] <aetherian> right now, as my gui client?
#172 [01:23] <nevercast> UI client
#173 [01:23] <nevercast> and yes
#174 [01:23] <aetherian> you could just ctcp version me >.>
#175 [01:23] <aetherian> hahaha
#176 [01:23] <AndrewPH> 1.4
#177 [01:23] <AndrewPH> 1.4
#178 [01:23] <AndrewPH> 1.4
#179 [01:24] <aetherian> lmao
#180 [01:24] <AndrewPH> :1
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#182 [01:24] <aetherian> NEVERCATS :O
#183 [01:24] <NEVERCATS> Hello world, this is NeverCast from his terminal
#184 [01:24] <aetherian> .-.
#185 [01:24] <aetherian> I'm at a disadvantage
#186 [01:25] <NEVERCATS> Disadvantage?
#187 [01:25] <aetherian> I'm using windows, sadly >.>
#188 [01:25] <imabadmibbit> how do I put in custom maps?
#189 [01:25] <aetherian> what OS
#190 [01:25] <imabadmibbit> XP
#191 [01:25] <NEVERCATS> You use the same commands in windows. aetherian
#192 [01:25] <aetherian> cats: no
#193 [01:25] <NEVERCATS> aetherian!
#194 [01:25] <aetherian> half the time it's saying it's an unknows command, the other half it's not doing anything...
#195 [01:26] <NEVERCATS> telenet irc.esper.net 6667
#196 [01:26] <aetherian> I did that
#197 [01:26] <aetherian> jeez
#198 [01:26] <nevercast> err telnet
#199 [01:26] <nevercast> aetherian, You did that?
#200 [01:26] <nevercast> aetherian, Then what did you do?
#201 [01:26] <nevercast> Soon as it connects, get your typing on
#202 [01:26] <aetherian> I'm just going to start ignoring you, now. I need to figure this out.
#203 [01:26] <nevercast> NICK aetherian
#204 [01:27] <aetherian> you're not giving useful info.
#205 [01:27] <nevercast> USER aetherian aetherian aetherian : aetherian
#206 [01:27] <aetherian> quit hilighting me
#207 [01:27] <nevercast> aetherian, I'm giving you the commands!
#208 [01:27] <aetherian> jeez
#209 [01:27] <nevercast> aetherian, Do you want to telnet into irc or what
#210 [01:27] <aetherian> QUIT HILIGHTING ME DAMMIT
#211 [01:27] <nevercast> Fine whatever
#212 [01:27] <aetherian> jeez
#213 [01:27] <nevercast> calm down
#214 [01:27] <nevercast> nub
#215 [01:30] <Xerati> fail
#216 [01:30] <aetherian> real mature...
#217 [01:30] <nevercast> aetherian, you're not a noob because you don't know. You behaved like a noob when I offered you help.
#218 [01:31] <Xerati> aetherian is always going to be a noob
#219 [01:31] <aetherian> nevercast: you did not offer me help.
#220 [01:31] <nevercast> Xerati, lol.
#221 [01:31] <Xerati> everything he was telling you was accurate, aetherian
#222 [01:31] <nevercast> aetherian, Yes I did!
#223 [01:31] <Xerati> if youre highlighting is fail, aetherian, then fucking fix it
#224 [01:31] <aetherian> a couple of things, first: I told you that what said was not true for me.
#225 [01:32] <aetherian> then
#226 [01:32] <nevercast> aetherian, every operating system has a 'telnet' program.
#227 [01:32] <nevercast> aetherian, they all work the same
#228 [01:32] <aetherian> I told you how it was not working, then, I asked for you to stop hilighting, then, you kept hilighting
#229 [01:32] <nevercast> If it's not working, you're doing it wrong.
#230 [01:32] <nevercast> everything I said was spot on.
#231 [01:32] <aetherian> also, you never offered help
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#233 [01:32] <aetherian> you gave "help"
#234 [01:33] <nevercast> Sorry.. I'll ask what is obvious in future.
#235 [01:33] <nevercast> sorry.
#236 [01:33] <aetherian> frankly, I do not understand that sentence.
#237 [01:39] <aetherian> just as I suspected
#238 [01:40] <aetherian> esper is like the only one I can't work on >.>
#239 [01:40] * aetherian is leaving for a lil now
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#240 [01:43] <nevercast> Xerati, I know why aetherian can't get it to work. He'll fail with freenode too
#241 [01:43] <zekkie> Got a MC question for anyone paying attention....
#242 [01:44] <nevercast> Xerati, esper require you to send a PONG after Nick and User.
#243 [01:44] <aetherian> nevercast: I just did it on freenode.
#244 [01:44] <aetherian> jeez
#245 [01:44] <nevercast> aetherian, Are you sending the PONG?
#246 [01:44] <aetherian> 1. quit hilighting me, I'm right here. 2. not on freenode, no, it's not required
#247 [01:45] <xales> zekkie: what is the question?
#248 [01:45] <nevercast> Then maybe that's your problem.
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#250 [01:45] <aetherian> nonono
#251 [01:45] <Kealper2> oh man that userlist spam was huge
#252 [01:45] <nevercast> Send a PONG, But you'll need to read the PING for it's value probably.
#253 [01:45] <nevercast> Kealper2, Hey
#254 [01:45] <Xerati> used to need to
#255 [01:45] <aetherian> dammit, it's like you're talking to someone else
#256 [01:45] <Kealper2> dang that packet is hard to type out
#257 [01:45] <nevercast> Kealper2, which one?
#258 [01:45] <Kealper2> this channel name is far too long xD
#259 [01:46] <nevercast> Kealper2, PRIVMSG?
#260 [01:46] <nevercast> Haha, yeah.
#261 [01:46] <Xerati> yes it is :P
#262 [01:46] <nevercast> Oh the days of Telnet <3
#263 [01:46] <nevercast> I remember the old BCC's
#264 [01:46] <xales> BBC*
#265 [01:46] <zekkie> xales - All day long I have been getting the Took too long to log in error...I'm running Windows 7 and running the client...I'd just play from the website except the website will not work for me either....
#266 [01:46] <nevercast> My telnet used to go BEEEEP BOOOOPP SQEEEEL!!.. and you put in phone numbers not ip's :D
#267 [01:46] <Kealper2> so...who's failing at telnetting to irc?
#268 [01:46] <nevercast> Kealper2, aetherian
#269 [01:46] <zekkie> I know the server I am trying to connect to is working, because my wife is on it right now.
#270 [01:46] <aetherian> DAMMIT DUDE
#271 [01:46] <nevercast> :P
#272 [01:47] <xales> zekkie: open the start menu, and in the search box, type "cmd" and hit enter
#273 [01:47] <Kealper2> aetherian you have to know the IRC protocol like a boss to do this
#274 [01:47] <aetherian> kealper2 no...
#275 [01:47] <xales> nevercast, aetherian, Kealper2, can you do this in another channel? <.<
#276 [01:47] <zekkie> xales - Done.
#277 [01:47] <nevercast> kealper2, the amount of bots i've written.. I know the protocol.
#278 [01:47] <aetherian> I can do it on other networks
#279 [01:47] <Kealper> righ then
#280 [01:47] <Kealper> right*
#281 [01:47] <xales> zekkie: in that window, type "ping www.minecraft.net" and hit enter
#282 [01:47] <nevercast> Kealper, I own nevercast.net now :D
#283 [01:47] <xales> the first line should say "Pinging www.minecraft.net [numbers]"
#284 [01:47] <nevercast> Kealper, and my minecraft now starts with mcwrapper, not java BLA
#285 [01:48] <xales> what are the [numbers]
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#287 [01:49] <Blabagas> hello
#288 [01:49] <Kealper> hello
#289 [01:49] <xales> ??> zekkie irc/dontpm
#290 [01:49] <VoxelHead> zekkie: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#291 [01:49] <xales> zekkie: what happens when you try to go to http://www.minecraft.net/ in the browser?
#292 [01:49] <zekkie> Pinging mc-main-1819944940.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com [184.72.219.240] with 32 bytes of data.
#293 [01:50] <Blabagas> who here knows anything about the wom client?
#294 [01:50] <zekkie> It hangs at Sending request...
#295 [01:50] <Kealper> Blabagas: we don't give support to third party software here
#296 [01:50] <Kealper> Blabagas: you'll have to get support from WoM
#297 [01:50] <Blabagas> aw
#298 [01:50] <Blabagas> ok
#299 [01:50] <xales> zekkie: that's normal
#300 [01:50] <Blabagas> well bye =]
#301 [01:51] <xales> what happens when you try to go to http://www.minecraft.net/
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#303 [01:51] <RuneTheRed> Greetings
#304 [01:51] <zekkie> It's normal for the website to hang at Sending request and not work? :P
#305 [01:51] <RuneTheRed> I think their server is esploding...
#306 [01:52] <xales> zekkie: well, it's normal for it to be unpingable, but what happens when you browse to http://www.minecraft.net/ - specifically
#307 [01:52] <nevercast> zekkie, yes
#308 [01:52] <xales> RuneTheRed: ?
#309 [01:52] <nevercast> zekkie, Did you mean normal, as in typical servers, or typical minecraft.net
#310 [01:52] <nevercast> Because normally servers work, 'cept minecraft :D
#311 [01:52] <RuneTheRed> ANYWAY I'm having trouble of a different sort. I'm doing battle with Minecraft crashing every 15 minutes or so
#312 [01:53] <zekkie> Well now the website is working, but it keeps telling me bad login...
#313 [01:53] <zekkie> Or just hang at logging in....
#314 [01:53] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: any crash log we can feast our eyes at?
#315 [01:53] <RuneTheRed> Keapler: I only got one once… I can see if I can find it
#316 [01:53] <xales> zekkie: it could be that the auth server is just having issues again, best thing to try is wait =/
#317 [01:54] <RuneTheRed> Keapler: this is it http://grab.by/9awI I know its on the last version but the crashes have continued
#318 [01:55] <nevercast> xales, where can I download 'wait' ?
#319 [01:55] <zekkie> I figured. Just thought I'd ask.
#320 [01:55] <zekkie> I'm glad Notch is putting my $15 to good use....
#321 [01:55] <nevercast> lol.
#322 [01:55] <xales> RuneTheRed: I've seen that error before, no idea what causes it or how to fix =/
#323 [01:56] <Kealper> same, not sure what it's from :/
#324 [01:56] <Kealper> you could try this though.....not sure if it will work
#325 [01:56] <xales> zekkie: they are looking to move to a new host platform right now - the current one can't even keep the customer control panel working. they want to do it right, not quickly like last time
#326 [01:56] <RuneTheRed> xales: I've been doing quite a bit of hunting, it seems there are a number of people experiencing this frequent crash issue as far back as 1.2
#327 [01:56] <Kealper> ?? reinst/mac
#328 [01:56] <zekkie> I try not to complain too much because I know it's beta, but every other beta I've ever tried was at least basically functional before released. :P
#329 [01:56] <Kealper> fuuu!
#330 [01:56] <Kealper> ?? mac/reinst
#331 [01:56] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#332 [01:56] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#333 [01:57] <Kealper> commands for that thing are not intuitive!
#334 [01:58] <RuneTheRed> VoxelHead: I'll give it a shot, will nuking the app support file really cause minecraft to overwrite itself?
#335 [01:58] <VoxelHead> RuneTheRed, I am a bot.
#336 [01:58] <Kealper> :P
#337 [01:58] <RuneTheRed> ye gads!
#338 [01:58] <RuneTheRed> somebody get me a turing test!
#339 [01:58] <Kealper> don't worry, people think voxel is a person all the time, that's why it now responds saying it's a bot :P
#340 [01:59] <RuneTheRed> Unless.. it only WANTS me to think it's a bot...
#341 [01:59] <Kealper> I N C E P T I O N (?)
#342 [01:59] <RuneTheRed> I need to go deeper
#343 [02:00] <Kealper> *BWAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
#344 [02:00] <Kealper> that makes me want to watch that movie again :/
#345 [02:00] <RuneTheRed> I got it as a random gift in Blu-ray format...
#346 [02:00] <RuneTheRed> I went out and bought a ps3 to watch it
#347 [02:00] <RuneTheRed> I have not yet regretted this decision
#348 [02:00] <Kealper> watching the movie or getting the ps3? lol
#349 [02:01] <RuneTheRed> Either! Though it was great in the theater too
#350 [02:01] <Kealper> lol
#351 [02:03] <RuneTheRed> Right… application lobotomy complete.. now to minecraft and its spiffy new lighting!
#352 [02:04] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper - "Your server hates me, and has been booting me for no reason
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#353 [02:05] <Kealper> orly? hmm
#354 [02:05] * Kealper loks
#354 [02:05] <Kealper> looks*
#355 [02:05] <Tork232> whats the #rsw chan is it just #rsw
#356 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, I don't know what that channe is
#357 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> What's RSW?
#358 [02:05] <Tork232> Red Stone Wire
#359 [02:05] <Tork232> The support side of mc
#360 [02:06] <Kealper> never bothered looking but it will either be #rsw or #redstonewire
#361 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, doesn't look like there's a channel for that here
#362 [02:06] <Kealper> and we're the support side of MC >.>
#363 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> There's a 7 person #redstone channel ehre
#364 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> I doubt that they'll give you support though
#365 [02:06] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: Oop… it exploded when I opened my inventory...
#366 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Is there anything we can do to help Tork232?
#367 [02:07] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: says you are getting DCed with a connection reset
#368 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, has been happening a bunch in the last few minutes
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#370 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Don't know why
#371 [02:07] <Tork232> #rsw works
#372 [02:07] <Kealper> i'll restart the mc server in a sec, finishing up some things on my wrapper
#373 [02:08] <RuneTheRed> Its not the fact that minecraft is crashing that annoys me… its that it is crashing so silently… is it possibly generating logs somewhere?
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#375 [02:10] <RuneTheRed> ah ha!
#376 [02:10] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: potentially, any error logs in the same directory as minecraft.app (or .jar)?
#377 [02:10] <RuneTheRed> http://grab.by/9awO nope but the mac is keeping some...
#378 [02:11] <xales> Application Support/CrashReporter
#379 [02:11] <xales> look in there I think
#380 [02:12] <RuneTheRed> xales: I don't see anything specifically 'minecrafty' in there… couple of java implosions
#381 [02:12] <xales> the Java thing are Minecraft probably =/
#382 [02:12] <sardo97> Xales: do you sleep?
#383 [02:12] <xales> sardo97: occasionally
#384 [02:13] <sardo97> XD
#385 [02:13] <RuneTheRed> xales: nothing useful in there, even in the java ones
#386 [02:13] <xales> are they Minecraft related?
#387 [02:13] <RuneTheRed> its uh.. pretty vague
#388 [02:14] <RuneTheRed> http://grab.by/9awQ
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#390 [02:14] <RuneTheRed> there aint much stuff in there...
#391 [02:15] <Kealper> hmm....
#392 [02:15] <Kealper> out of curiosity....what mac do you have?
#393 [02:15] <RuneTheRed> I read on a forum somewhere that repairing disk permissions fixed it… but I tried it to no avail
#394 [02:15] <Tork232> When i try to login on minecraft it says "login failed" and it keeps failing and im not sure why, i have purchased the game yes but it wont work, I think its not recognizing that i payed or something
#395 [02:15] <RuneTheRed> I'm running it currently on my macbook pro, I can give specs if you want
#396 [02:15] <Kealper> Tork232: has it ever worked before?
#397 [02:16] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: please, if you would
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#399 [02:16] <Tork232> Yes it has Kealper
#400 [02:16] <Kealper> Tork232: can you log in to minecraft.net? or does that say failed, too?
#401 [02:16] <Tork232> I can log in minecraft.net
#402 [02:17] <RuneTheRed> OS 10.6.6, 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB ram, latest mac java installed
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#404 [02:17] <Kealper> Tork232: probably just issues with the login server that the downloaded client uses, again then
#405 [02:17] <RemixMiner> I cannot get /join Bukkit to work... my IRC is just not working O.o
#406 [02:17] <Tork232> I have downloaded it like seven times
#407 [02:17] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: well then....i doubt that would be the issue
#408 [02:17] <RuneTheRed> With the NVIDIA GeForce 9400M/GT stuffs
#409 [02:17] <RemixMiner> or do i have to write " #bukkit " ? i am an irc newb
#410 [02:17] <Kealper> RemixMiner: are you typing #bukkit or just bukkit?
#411 [02:17] <WeirdMisty> yes, you have to write #bukkit
#412 [02:18] <Kealper> because in IRC, # means it is a channel, if it does not start with #, the chat server thinks you are talking about a person
#413 [02:18] <RuneTheRed> Heh, I haven't tried running on my mac mini, or the two G5 dual core Mac Pro towers behind me
#414 [02:18] <Kealper> G5 dual core.....as in PowerPC?
#415 [02:19] <RuneTheRed> Basically 2 generations past Power PC
#416 [02:19] <Kealper> or are they Intel macs?
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#418 [02:19] <RuneTheRed> not intel
#419 [02:19] <RuneTheRed> back on the IBM chips
#420 [02:19] <Kealper> oh gosh it's her
#421 [02:19] * Kealper hides behind AuBot
#421 [02:19] <Jessica> :p
#422 [02:19] <RuneTheRed> dun dun DUNNNN?
#423 [02:19] <Kealper> oh, that would still be a PowerPC chipset iirc...i didn't know they had dual core ones though :o
#424 [02:20] <WeirdMisty> I have a question about a glitch I had earlier, if anyone could help me out...
#425 [02:20] <Kealper> WeirdMisty: what glitch?
#426 [02:20] <RuneTheRed> Oh yeah man… G4s did it… then the G5s did it too… you could even get water cooled ones if you went top o' the line
#427 [02:20] <Kealper> o.o
#428 [02:20] <WeirdMisty> My friend and I were playing on a server that's hosted on my computer and my computer got unplugged... when i got the server back up both our inventories were empty but everything else was in order
#429 [02:21] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: give it a shot on one of them then, because minecraft should run fine on macs :/
#430 [02:21] <Kealper> it must just hate that specific one
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#432 [02:21] <RuneTheRed> It didn't used to… actually it was stellar before the 'beta'
#433 [02:21] <Kealper> WeirdMisty: that is a side effect of the server not shutting down properly :/
#434 [02:21] <RuneTheRed> actually ran better than my friends with the windows boxes
#435 [02:22] <WeirdMisty> ok then, so as long as I shut it down normally then closing the server should not have ill effects otherwise?
#436 [02:22] <Kealper> correct
#437 [02:22] <RuneTheRed> Sadly, running on those machines is not really a tenable solution… they are busy being servers sortof
#438 [02:22] <Kealper> :/
#439 [02:22] <WeirdMisty> ty
#440 [02:22] <Kealper> you've tried to reinstall java?
#441 [02:23] <RuneTheRed> Hmm… I haven't looked into it… I wasn't sure if it was an easy option on my chosen OS
#442 [02:23] <Kealper> i doubt it would be too hard, there should be some software center thing or whatnot
#443 [02:23] <RuneTheRed> Its worth looking into
#444 [02:24] <RuneTheRed> Then I can go back to being fustrated about less important things like the loss of /home and immunity to falling damage
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#446 [02:24] <Kealper> lol
#447 [02:24] <billmarcy> where can i tell people about my server?
#448 [02:24] <Kealper> billmarcy: #smp
#449 [02:24] <AG_Scott> #smp
#450 [02:24] <billmarcy> what room?
#451 [02:24] <billmarcy> thanks
#452 [02:24] <Kealper> ninja'd
#453 [02:24] <AG_Scott> beat u Kealper
#454 [02:24] <Kealper> 02:24:11 <@Kealper> billmarcy: #smp
#455 [02:24] <Kealper> 02:24:11 <+AG_Scott> #smp
#456 [02:24] <Kealper> :P
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#458 [02:24] <AG_Scott> not for meh
#459 [02:25] <Kealper> we ninja'd eachother then :o
#460 [02:25] <xales> I saw Kealper first
#461 [02:25] <xales> <3
#462 [02:25] <Kealper> \o/
#463 [02:25] * AG_Scott castrates xales
#463 [02:25] * xales is sad
#463 [02:25] <Kealper> wai
#464 [02:25] <Kealper> whai(
#465 [02:25] <Kealper> stupid black keyboard in dark room
#466 [02:25] <RuneTheRed> Who know that IRC help rooms were fraught with such dangers
#467 [02:26] <Kealper> i know right?
#468 [02:26] <RuneTheRed> o.o
#469 [02:26] <RuneTheRed> Many days I am pleased with my operating system...
#470 [02:27] <RuneTheRed> some days… I read that the only way to reinstall java is to reinstall the OS...
#471 [02:27] <RuneTheRed> On these days… I am less pleased
#472 [02:27] <AG_Scott> how is that?
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#474 [02:27] <AG_Scott> what kind of OS do you have? :(
#475 [02:27] <Kealper> OSX
#476 [02:27] <AG_Scott> oh.
#477 [02:27] <RuneTheRed> yush
#478 [02:27] <AG_Scott> my friends have macs
#479 [02:27] <AG_Scott> they run fedora/ubuntu on them.
#480 [02:27] <AG_Scott> :D
#481 [02:28] <Kealper> Jessica has a mac....and runs windows 7 on it...lol
#482 [02:28] <blaphmat> when i try to play classic single player minecraft wont load i can hear music but its a black screen
#483 [02:28] <RuneTheRed> Yes yes well… I LIKE OSX… and I put up with the limitations generally
#484 [02:28] <Kealper> inb4 shitstorm of windows hate
#485 [02:28] <AG_Scott> I really dislike windows :(
#486 [02:28] <RuneTheRed> pffff inb4 flamewar
#487 [02:28] <Jessica> ^_^
#488 [02:28] <Kealper> blaphmat: what is your computer specs?
#489 [02:28] <AG_Scott> They have 3 things I like though.
#490 [02:29] <AG_Scott> MS Exchange, Office, and the backup stuff in windows home server
#491 [02:29] <blaphmat> what is that
#492 [02:29] <Kealper> for me windows just works...others seem to have tons of issues though :/
#493 [02:29] <AG_Scott> yeah my windows installs last about a month
#494 [02:29] <Kealper> blaphmat: well...let's try this...who makes your computer?
#495 [02:29] <AG_Scott> linux installs last 18-24 months and thats because i like to do reinstalls every 3-4 releases
#496 [02:30] <RuneTheRed> I've been reasonably happy with windows 7 actually...
#497 [02:30] <blaphmat> apple its a mac book
#498 [02:30] <Kealper> i've had my same windows 7 install on my main computer since it came out in late 2009...still working like a champ for me
#499 [02:30] <AG_Scott> yeah, mine fail.
#500 [02:30] <Kealper> blaphmat: ok, can you see a model number on it?
#501 [02:30] <blaphmat> like a serial number
#502 [02:30] <RuneTheRed> Yeah I've had windows 7 on my gaming PC since before it was officially released without a reinstall...
#503 [02:30] <Kealper> AG_Scott: i guess i'm either lucky, or windows secretly wants to bear my children :o
#504 [02:31] <Kealper> blaphmat: it will probably be something like MacBook Pro 1300 or something
#505 [02:31] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: Windows has already secretly born your children
#506 [02:31] <AG_Scott> i'll stick with baby penguins.
#507 [02:31] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: :o
#508 [02:31] <AG_Scott> i kill the butterflies
#509 [02:31] <Kealper> lol
#510 [02:31] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: it might be trueeeeee
#511 [02:32] <blaphmat> oh mac book 1,1 i think i no its not a pro though
#512 [02:32] <Kealper> so that is why the keyboard was sticky!
#513 [02:32] <AG_Scott> besides
#514 [02:32] <AG_Scott> Russia has the windows source code
#515 [02:32] <Kealper> blaphmat: how old is it?
#516 [02:32] <Kealper> and RuneTheRed how much do you know about macs?
#517 [02:32] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: Yeah, little did you know that logitech keyboard came with a DNA decryption device embedded between the keys!
#518 [02:32] <Kealper> :o
#519 [02:32] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: I like to say more than the average bear
#520 [02:33] <RuneTheRed> Like some help?
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#522 [02:33] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: think you could lend blaphmat some help with this?
#523 [02:33] <Kealper> i know next to nothing on them :/
#524 [02:33] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: Tell me what info you want to know and I shall retrive it!
#525 [02:33] <Jessica> lol
#526 [02:33] <Kealper> i'm the windows support guy who can do a dash of linux, but not macs :/
#527 [02:34] <xales> Kealper
#528 [02:34] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: i just would like to know the computer specs on it, it might be too old to run minecraft
#529 [02:34] <xales> make Kramer an owner of the thing that lets you use .set
#530 [02:34] <xales> or whatever
#531 [02:34] <xales> if that's not hard )
#532 [02:34] <xales> :)*
#533 [02:34] <Kealper> .auth Kramer 1
#534 [02:34] <Kealper> ok
#535 [02:34] <Kealper> lol
#536 [02:34] <blaphmat> well i cant play the classic version the screen is black but i can hear music and i have a mac book
#537 [02:34] <xales> Kealper: lol, thanks
#538 [02:34] <RuneTheRed> blaphmat: ok can you go hit up the apple menu and click on "About This Mac"?
#539 [02:35] <RuneTheRed> blaphmat: Just sort of list off what you see there
#540 [02:36] <blaphmat> mac osx version 10.6.6 processor 2ghz intel core duo
#541 [02:36] <RuneTheRed> blaphmat: What does it say under Memory
#542 [02:37] <blaphmat> 2 gb 667 mhzddr2
#543 [02:37] <blaphmat> sd ram
#544 [02:37] <Kealper> ok so that seems new enough to run minecraft....
#545 [02:37] <RuneTheRed> certainly so
#546 [02:37] <Kealper> ??> blaphmat reinst/mac
#547 [02:37] <Kealper> dangit
#548 [02:37] <RuneTheRed> you're playing the classic version though.. isn't that in a web browser?
#549 [02:38] <blaphmat> ya i think
#550 [02:38] <Kealper> yes, but it still stores files locally
#551 [02:38] <RuneTheRed> what browser are you using?
#552 [02:38] <blaphmat> google chrome
#553 [02:38] <Kealper> ?? mac/reinst
#554 [02:38] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#555 [02:38] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#556 [02:38] <RuneTheRed> kealper: Thats your answer for everything isn't it!
#557 [02:39] <Kealper> stupid bot....commands are not intuitive...at...all
#558 [02:39] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: ofcourse!
#559 [02:39] <RuneTheRed> kalper: You know you keep shunting off your responsibilities to the robots.. why… why you'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes!
#560 [02:39] <Kealper> i'll have AuBot sentient enough to protect me by then ;_;
#561 [02:40] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: if AuBot isn't already on their side…..
#562 [02:40] <Kealper> i'll make sure it's only artificial AI, not real AI....so i remain in control at all times *MUAHAHA*
#563 [02:41] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: Remember, no weed is quite as stubborn as that which is born of the seed of descent.
#564 [02:41] <blaphmat> so should i not use chrome
#565 [02:41] <RuneTheRed> I'd try firefox
#566 [02:41] <blaphmat> ok
#567 [02:41] <RuneTheRed> on principal that Mozilla is less likely to become our evil robot overlords within the next 24 hours
#568 [02:41] <Kealper> well, it sounds like java is working since it plays sound...but heck, try in Safari or Firefox just to be sure
#569 [02:42] <Kealper> lol
#570 [02:42] <Jessica> when i played minecraft on safari i didn't like it but that's my mac for you
#571 [02:43] <RuneTheRed> No thanks I have 4… X_x
#572 [02:43] <RuneTheRed> I think they are breeding...
#573 [02:43] <Jessica> O.o
#574 [02:43] <Kealper> :o
#575 [02:43] <Kealper> they are white like rabbits....does that mean it is so?
#576 [02:44] <Kealper> why didn't he just leave Chrome open :/
#577 [02:44] <RuneTheRed> They are like plastic and aluminum tribbles…
#578 [02:44] <Kealper> lol
#579 [02:44] <RuneTheRed> Robotribbles
#580 [02:44] <RuneTheRed> if you will
#581 [02:44] <Kealper> lol
#582 [02:45] <RuneTheRed> URgh… now I'm thinking terrible thoughts. I've seen a hilarious pic of a tribble borg… now I'm thinking what it would look like if Apple designed the Borg...
#583 [02:45] <Kealper> Clean. Simple. Elegant. The new Tribble Borg.
#584 [02:45] <RuneTheRed> Its "magical"
#585 [02:45] <xales> Kealper
#586 [02:45] <xales> have you seen http://scenes.at/helpgame
#587 [02:45] <xales> :>
#588 [02:46] <RuneTheRed> the new iTribble
#589 [02:46] <Kealper> i have now
#590 [02:46] <Kealper> lol m0d made it
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#592 [02:48] <Kealper> charter must suck
#593 [02:49] <Kealper> that's not the first time he's timed out tonight >.>
#594 [02:49] <xales> lol
#595 [02:49] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: so...is it neigh impossible to reinstall java on a mac? or are you/have you been working on that?
#596 [02:50] <RuneTheRed> been peeking around...
#597 [02:50] <Kealper> fairly certain that i just used that english 1.0 wrong
#598 [02:50] <RuneTheRed> Currently I'm using my 'developer' account at apple to access the 'preview' of the next java patch
#599 [02:50] <Kealper> O.o
#600 [02:50] <RuneTheRed> soooooo
#601 [02:51] <Kealper> is objective-C ugly? >.>
#602 [02:51] <RuneTheRed> I tried it once… I didn't like it
#603 [02:51] <RuneTheRed> but I barely knew C back then
#604 [02:51] <RuneTheRed> actually, I barely know C now
#605 [02:52] <RuneTheRed> *not actually developing anything for apple*
#606 [02:52] <Kealper> well i assumed you meant you made some sort of app, or fooled around with app making lol
#607 [02:52] <Kealper> not actually worked for apple
#608 [02:52] <EmpiresBane> now, i'm no doctor, but i'm pretty sure i shouldn't be able to feel have my back re-arrange itself as i bring my arm down
#609 [02:53] <RuneTheRed> Is there a difference XD Apple owns the product basically right?
#610 [02:53] <Kealper> i'm sure many people would shun you from the channel if you worked at apple
#611 [02:53] <Kealper> true, true
#612 [02:53] <RuneTheRed> App makers are apple employees… they just get paid on commish
#613 [02:53] <RuneTheRed> at least thats how the business model looks
#614 [02:53] <RuneTheRed> but yeah I dabbled
#615 [02:53] <EmpiresBane> !isdown
#616 [02:53] <Kealper> EmpiresBane: assuming i understood what you said, yeah, that is probably not tood good
#617 [02:53] <EmpiresBane> damnit, which command is it?
#618 [02:53] <Kealper> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#619 [02:53] <GreyBot> Kealper: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#620 [02:53] <Kealper> or something like that
#621 [02:54] <EmpiresBane> weird
#622 [02:54] <EmpiresBane> it didn't load at first
#623 [02:54] <RuneTheRed> I don't feel like betatesting Apples next java patch.. somehow I feel this will generate more problems
#624 [02:54] <Kealper> probably just the load balencer being stupid again :/
#625 [02:55] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: probably....so there is really no easy way to just reinstall java? ._.
#626 [02:55] <RuneTheRed> not that I've found…
#627 [02:56] <Kealper> xales: how to reinstall java on mac
#628 [02:56] <xales> Kealper: you don't =/
#629 [02:56] * DopeGhoti looks up a few screens
#629 [02:57] <Jessica> now it makes me want to go on my mac and see how to reinstall java
#630 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> I've written some Obj-C, it's not that bad, really
#631 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> and manages to intercase with C{arbon,ocoa} pretty easily
#632 [02:57] <RuneTheRed> Well my trouble had less to do with the Obj-C and more to do with trying to follow a tutorial on how to build an app
#633 [02:57] <DopeGhoti> I'm looking forward to Xcode 4 not sucking though
#634 [02:57] <RuneTheRed> I found a dozen tutorials… all for different versions of Xcode...
#635 [02:58] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: feeling lucky?
#636 [02:58] <RuneTheRed> which all had VASTLY different steps to do the exact same stuff
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#638 [02:58] <Kealper> or are you good with the random crashes? lol
#639 [02:58] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: sure I feel lucky… uh… why?
#640 [02:58] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: Down with random crashes!
#641 [02:59] <Kealper> i was going to say try updating to the latest dev build of java...which can either fix the issue by getting java reinstalled, or make everything blow up
#642 [02:59] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: A random crash per hour… fine… this is like every 15 minutes… I can't even farm out all of these flowers!
#643 [02:59] <EmpiresBane> hm... what can i put in the seed?
#644 [02:59] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: Wellllllllll… if this were not my main machine
#645 [02:59] <Kealper> i also need to have putty like...use unicode or something
#646 [02:59] <EmpiresBane> just numbers?
#647 [02:59] <Kealper> letters too
#648 [02:59] <Kealper> it'll just use a hash of the letters if it sees them
#649 [03:01] <EmpiresBane> god damnit!
#650 [03:02] <EmpiresBane> now i can't even play minecraft on this machine
#651 [03:02] <Kealper> O.o
#652 [03:02] <Kealper> what's it doing?
#653 [03:02] <Kealper> or lack thereof
#654 [03:02] <EmpiresBane> grr.... lagging
#655 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=190756
#656 [03:02] <Kealper> go into settings > video settings > disable Smooth Light
#657 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> Common problem, turn down graphics, turn off smooth lighting, turn up fog
#658 [03:03] <EmpiresBane> every single freaking time notch touches the render code he screws shit up
#659 [03:03] <EmpiresBane> already did that
#660 [03:03] <EmpiresBane> i've been playing since day 1, i know all the tricks
#661 [03:03] <RuneTheRed> ALL the tricks?
#662 [03:03] <EmpiresBane> yes
#663 [03:04] <EmpiresBane> i've had to deal integrated graphics
#664 [03:04] <EmpiresBane> i made sure to learn them
#665 [03:04] <EmpiresBane> and when he "optimized" i got less than 1 fps
#666 [03:04] <EmpiresBane> meaning that i got better performance on a machine from 2001
#667 [03:04] <EmpiresBane> which now gets 5 fps
#668 [03:04] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: My java makes me sad… Looks like I'll have to wait until even more people have this problem I have
#669 [03:04] <EmpiresBane> 10 was at least playable
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#671 [03:05] <Jess> asdf
#672 [03:05] <Kealper> fdsa
#673 [03:05] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: :(
#674 [03:05] <Kealper> RuneTheRed: bootcamp a copy of windows on to it...
#675 [03:06] <RuneTheRed> Kealper: I know! I'll tweet Notch! The most effective way to get anything done!
#676 [03:06] <Kealper> lol
#677 [03:06] <Jess> lol
#678 [03:06] <Jess> that's what i do on my mac
#679 [03:06] <RuneTheRed> Ha haa… well I COULD just run it on my PC...
#680 [03:06] <RuneTheRed> ...
#681 [03:06] <Kealper> ._.
#682 [03:06] <RuneTheRed> But thats like giving up!
#683 [03:06] <Kealper> lol
#684 [03:07] <RuneTheRed> Dangit… I have to spend my entire life defending my computer choice… I can't back down NOW… if I do that the haters win!
#685 [03:07] * GreyVulpine snrks
#685 [03:08] <RuneTheRed> When I say "My computer can do anything yours can do"… I'll have this little nagging voice in my head, eating away at what could be perceived as an impenetrable wall of pure apple fanboyism screaming in its tiny annoying voice "except minecraft! except minecraft!"
#686 [03:09] <Jess> XD
#687 [03:09] <Kealper> disregard these
#688 [03:09] <RuneTheRed> My ego will crumble! The world will come crashing down around me! CATS AND DOGS LIVING TOGETHER
#689 [03:09] <Kealper> .part #minecraft
#690 [03:09] <Kealper> !tutorial
#691 [03:09] <aetherian> wha...
#692 [03:10] <Jess> what's that
#693 [03:10] <Kealper> needed it for a failnub in #minecraft
#694 [03:10] <RuneTheRed> This video should be replaced with that awesome one of that guy fumbling around near the rim of his lava talking about how cool he is before screaming like a little girl when he gets exploded
#695 [03:10] <Kealper> !ignore #minecraft
#696 [03:11] <Kealper> lol
#697 [03:11] <RuneTheRed> That is surely how minecraft is played
#698 [03:11] <Kealper> because that is totally helpful for beginners lol
#699 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I have this awesome entrance way.. but no idea how to continue it
#700 [03:11] <Kealper> carefully
#701 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> I blame it being 3am, and having tunneled the rest of the complex without thinking of how to get in
#702 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. panic room.. yesss....
#703 [03:14] <RuneTheRed> Don't forget a flash room
#704 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> "Flash"?
#705 [03:15] <RuneTheRed> Its a must for all those top security installations that deal with things that they REALLY dont want getting in… or out
#706 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> !wiki flash room
#707 [03:15] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Room
#708 [03:15] <GreyBot> The Red Room or Red Room may refer to:
#709 [03:15] <RuneTheRed> You have a room… with a bit of barely constrained lava...
#710 [03:16] <RuneTheRed> yes… not this..
#711 [03:16] <RuneTheRed> An incinerator room
#712 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I getcha
#713 [03:16] <RuneTheRed> I built one for an evil laboratory I was making...
#714 [03:17] <RuneTheRed> I used coal on all the walls so it looked as though it had gone off recently...
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#716 [03:17] <Barford> Anybody here ?
#717 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#718 [03:17] <Barford> minecraft site seems to be down
#719 [03:17] <RuneTheRed> Only us chickens
#720 [03:17] <Barford> chickens ... everywhere these days
#721 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#722 [03:17] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#723 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Yup, it's down
#724 [03:17] <Barford> ah ok clears that up
#725 [03:18] <RuneTheRed> good ol minecrash… CRAFT… I meant craft...
#726 [03:18] <Barford> Grey, you know about the server you helped me make, it was really laging for the last 3 hours, now I cant connect, the site and the server are connected some how ?
#727 [03:18] <Jess> :S
#728 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> It's possible
#729 [03:19] <Barford> hmm
#730 [03:19] <Barford> i'm playing on the downloaded .exe window, and i'm geting a 503 error
#731 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, it's the minecraft server being down
#732 [03:19] <Barford> I think they might be, it's never laged before, seems to be connected
#733 [03:19] <Barford> ah thanks
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#735 [03:20] <RuneTheRed> Anyway, I'm off into the great wild yonder. Thanks for the help!
#736 [03:20] <Barford> seeya rune
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#738 [03:20] <Barford> my server char has all my diamond armor, copied the world onto single player and I cant do any of my buildings without it lol
#739 [03:20] <Barford> all underwater buildings, every milisecond counts
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#743 [03:32] <arensirb> What does responsecode 503 mean?
#744 [03:32] <arensirb> login is down?
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#746 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#747 [03:33] <arensirb> crap xD
#748 [03:33] <arensirb> : p
#749 [03:33] <aetherian> why say : p, instead of just :P?
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#756 [03:38] <Jess> night
#757 [03:39] <Sooi11> Are the servers down?
#758 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#759 [03:39] <Sooi11> Ah ok that explains it
#760 [03:44] <arensirb> heh
#761 [03:45] <arensirb> Is there any way I can set up a check for our website to show if mc.net is up or not?
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#763 [03:45] <arensirb> if i try to open game/joingame.jsp and get a 503 its down?
#764 [03:45] <arensirb> is it that easy?
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#767 [03:48] <Barford> minecraft is DOWNNNNNNNNN
#768 [03:49] <arensirb> no shit`?
#769 [03:49] <arensirb> : p
#770 [03:49] <Szernex> twitter too
#771 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> It's a conspiracy
#772 [03:49] <Szernex> Indeed
#773 [03:49] <Szernex> They're about to shut down the internet!
#774 [03:49] <arensirb> Im looking into making a widget :3
#775 [03:49] <arensirb> that can show if its up or down xD
#776 [03:50] <arensirb> Admitting something is down is allways bad
#777 [03:50] <arensirb> "overloaded" is more acceptet
#778 [03:50] <arensirb> d*
#779 [03:51] <the_late_man> argh, arensirb
#780 [03:51] <the_late_man> why do you do : p instead of :P >:
#781 [03:51] <arensirb> the_late_man: What?
#782 [03:51] <arensirb> Because :P gives a fucking ugly smiley on msn
#783 [03:51] <arensirb> :)
#784 [03:51] <Kealper> lol
#785 [03:51] <arensirb> So i do :)
#786 [03:51] <arensirb> err
#787 [03:51] <arensirb> : p
#788 [03:51] <aetherian> oh. msn. I see.
#789 [03:51] <Kealper> owned
#790 [03:52] <aetherian> lmao
#791 [03:52] <arensirb> Kealper: Indeed
#792 [03:52] <arensirb> I got my ass pwned
#793 [03:52] <aetherian> you should use something other than msn...
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#795 [03:53] <arensirb> Im not on MSN now
#796 [03:53] <arensirb> Well
#797 [03:53] <arensirb> Doh
#798 [03:53] <Kealper> afk on here after i smack my mc server around a bit with a large trout
#799 [03:53] <arensirb> Why shouldnt I use MSN?
#800 [03:53] <arensirb> Im sure as hell aint gonna use aim
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#802 [03:53] <arensirb> thats to darn american
#803 [03:53] <arensirb> Americans dont know how to use MSN so they use sucky aim
#804 [03:53] <EmpiresBane> why does AuBot keep setting bans?
#805 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> flooding
#806 [03:54] <arensirb> EmpiresBane: Cause i spammed
#807 [03:54] <Kealper> saying messages too fast
#808 [03:54] <EmpiresBane> shut up arensirb, we use MSN
#809 [03:54] <Kealper> banning without kicking mutes
#810 [03:54] <EmpiresBane> cool
#811 [03:54] <FFLaguna> Are there any #minecraft mods here I can speak to? It's in reference to a ban by xales for "trolling"
#812 [03:54] <EmpiresBane> anyways, AIM is barely used now
#813 [03:55] <Kealper> FFLaguna: want an explanation?
#814 [03:55] <EmpiresBane> that was the thing in like, 2006
#815 [03:55] <FFLaguna> Kealper - I think I understand, but I think it's a misunderstanding :(
#816 [03:55] <EmpiresBane> you can talk to xales
#817 [03:55] <EmpiresBane> query him
#818 [03:56] <FFLaguna> I can't, he is screening his PMs now
#819 [03:56] <Kealper> FFLaguna: from what i seen, you were QQing, he kicked, you QQed more, and he banned for trolling because that totally seemed like what you were doing to me:/
#820 [03:56] <EmpiresBane> brb, getting fat
#821 [03:56] <arensirb> What is QQing? :p
#822 [03:56] <FFLaguna> Crying
#823 [03:57] <arensirb> ahh
#824 [03:57] <arensirb> whining
#825 [03:57] <arensirb> Need some crackers with that whine? ^_^ xD
#826 [03:57] <Kealper> lol
#827 [03:57] <FFLaguna> Yeah, but when he kicked me I reclarified what I was saying... and then he permabanned me in an instant. I don't even think he had time to read what I typed
#828 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> You also had auto-rejoin on kick turned on, which is a no-no on #minecraft
#829 [03:58] <arensirb> ouch
#830 [03:58] <arensirb> autorejoin is kickban in itself
#831 [03:58] <FFLaguna> Why?? I've never heard of that
#832 [03:58] <arensirb> Common IRC knowledge
#833 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> It was in #minecraft's rules
#834 [03:58] <FFLaguna> I've been using IRC off and on for years...
#835 [03:58] <arensirb> So have I
#836 [03:58] <Kealper> because generally if you are kicked, having autorejoin on defeats the purpose
#837 [03:59] <arensirb> and most channels practice that
#838 [03:59] <Kealper> a kick is to send a message that they don't want you there
#839 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> Then you'd know to read a channel's topic for specific rules pertaining to the operation of that channel
#840 [03:59] <arensirb> Kealper: Or to back off for a certain amount of time
#841 [03:59] <WeirdMisty> could anyone kindly tell me how to set a server to offline mode?
#842 [03:59] <FFLaguna> I never saw any rules when I joined #minecraft
#843 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> WeirdMisty - Depends on the type of server
#844 [03:59] <FFLaguna> Where are they?
#845 [03:59] <arensirb> WeirdMisty: Tell your friends to pay for minecraft
#846 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> Topic is 'Register your nickname to talk. /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER | #minecrafthelp for help | Read the rules: http://pastebin.com/jstB9sDv | Bug reports/suggestions: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang | http://isminecraftdown.net/ | Advertising only upon request or #smp | @MinecraftHelper on Twitter | http://weekendofminecraft.net/ | DO NOT POST LINKS TO OLD LAUNCHER'
#847 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> That's the topic for #minecraft
#848 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> Read the rules: http://pastebin.com/jstB9sDv
#849 [04:00] <arensirb> hjaha
#850 [04:00] <FFLaguna> Okay, I had to read that like three times to see it :|
#851 [04:00] <arensirb> rules pastebin'ed
#852 [04:00] <arensirb> how 1337
#853 [04:00] <WeirdMisty> pay for it...?
#854 [04:00] <EmpiresBane> in the properties file, it's like "security" or "offline" set it to false
#855 [04:00] <WeirdMisty> I just want to be able to use my own server when the site is down lol
#856 [04:00] <arensirb> WeirdMisty: Its just what I assume when people say offline server
#857 [04:00] <Kealper> WeirdMisty: assuming you are using a beta server
#858 [04:01] <Kealper> WeirdMisty: don't listen to them, listen to me :O; ok....go into your server's folder
#859 [04:01] <FFLaguna> So, this is just a misunderstanding... are there #minecraft ops I can speak to about my sudden permaban? I *just* bought the game today, afterall
#860 [04:01] <WeirdMisty> ok
#861 [04:01] <Kealper> WeirdMisty: when you get into that folder, you will find a file called server.properties
#862 [04:01] <EmpiresBane> kealper, was i wrong?
#863 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> FFLaguna - Try posting an appeal here
#864 [04:01] <Kealper> WeirdMisty: open that up in any program, even Notepad will work
#865 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=33
#866 [04:01] <Kealper> you were all wrong ._.
#867 [04:02] <Kealper> WeirdMisty: look for the line that says "online-mode=true" and change it so it says "online-mode-false"
#868 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> online-mode=false
#869 [04:02] * GreyVulpine baps Kealper.
#869 [04:02] <WeirdMisty> tyvm
#870 [04:02] <Kealper> yeah, that
#871 [04:02] <AG_Scott> you guys need a new channel on here called #minecraftstatus where a bot says every time it goes down etc.
#872 [04:03] <Kealper> AG_Scott: that can be arranged!
#873 [04:03] <AG_Scott> this was suppose to go in a different channel :/
#874 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> No thanks, having to moderate this channel alone is a job in itself
#875 [04:03] <AG_Scott> but same people
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#877 [04:03] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine, +m :P
#878 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#879 [04:03] <AG_Scott> oyah i replied to your post about channels on here
#880 [04:04] <Kealper> o.o what post?
#881 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
#882 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> Oooo that post
#883 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=190689
#884 [04:05] <AceC> online-mode=true looks like it is working again
#885 [04:06] <arensirb> its up
#886 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#887 [04:06] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#888 [04:07] <Barford> WOOO
#889 [04:07] <Barford> IT"S BACK UP
#890 [04:08] <AG_Scott> ...for now
#891 [04:10] <AG_Scott> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=196590
#892 [04:10] <AG_Scott> Should I do it for lols?
#893 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear
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#895 [04:12] <pixartist> I need help from a modder
#896 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> Could we ask concerning what?
#897 [04:14] <pixartist> yes
#898 [04:14] <pixartist> so
#899 [04:14] <pixartist> I open the region files, extract the chunks
#900 [04:15] <pixartist> but I'm having problems with the 4 chunk size bytes
#901 [04:15] <pixartist> most of the time they are right
#902 [04:15] <pixartist> but.. sec
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#904 [04:15] <pixartist> I'm getting 420949756 for the length of a chunk
#905 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> I think the people at #risucraft might be able to better help you there
#906 [04:16] <pixartist> okay
#907 [04:16] <pixartist> whats that?
#908 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> A channel, this is #MineCraftHelp.
#909 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> /join #risucraft
#910 [04:17] <pixartist> yy I'm there
#911 [04:17] <pixartist> thanks
#912 [04:18] <EmpiresBane> how do you do the / at the beginning without it thinking you're using a command?
#913 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> My Ninja IRC skills.
#914 [04:18] <gothroach> EmpiresBane: ctrl + enter or /say /command
#915 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> Also, depends on the client
#916 [04:18] <gothroach> For most clients I've tried :P
#917 [04:19] <EmpiresBane> /me
#918 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> If you ever pull a raw log, you'll see what I use.
#919 [04:19] <EmpiresBane> right, i have to use /say
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#921 [04:23] <JLF> hey guys anyone else started running into movement/control problems after 1.3?
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#923 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#926 [04:25] <EmpiresBane> i think imma go play some Bulletstorm
#927 [04:25] <EmpiresBane> might be back
#928 [04:25] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper.
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#929 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> Server down Kealper?
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#931 [04:30] <JLF> basicly my problem is when i move for some it sort of creates the illusion of 1 button being pressed in
#932 [04:30] <JLF> talking about wasd
#933 [04:30] <JLF> and i keep moving in one of the directions
#934 [04:30] <JLF> its kind of annoying
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#939 [04:37] <BadNetMan> night
#940 [04:37] <aetherian> see ya
#941 [04:40] <FFLaguna> What is "tunneling"? It's not allowed on one of the rule lists for a server I'm joining
#942 [04:40] <arensirb> no iudea
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#944 [04:41] <relsqui> my association is with something like ssh tunneling--connecting through another box
#945 [04:41] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: sorry....was optimizing code in my wrapper, and adding a few new things to it to let me free up ram whenever i want and to set the process priority that the wrapper uses...and fixed the bug with the wrapper randomly putting my mc server at lowset priority
#946 [04:41] <relsqui> basically, dodging bans
#947 [04:41] <relsqui> by connecting through a third party
#948 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> Ah, kay, no worries
#949 [04:41] <Kealper> relsqui nailed it
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#951 [04:41] <relsqui> woo.
#952 [04:42] <arensirb> how does that help you avoid nickname ban?
#953 [04:42] <Kealper> and GreyVulpine it's up for the night now
#954 [04:42] <Kealper> (inb4 NIC explodes 15 min after i go to sleep)
#955 [04:42] <FFLaguna> No, it' snot ssh tunneling
#956 [04:42] <FFLaguna> I think it might be when you travel across the world map digging a trench?
#957 [04:43] <Kealper> arensirb: it doesn't but you can do ip bans from the server too
#958 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> Heh, yeah, that time last night... may or may not have been my fault
#959 [04:43] <FFLaguna> Or maybe tunneling randomly underground??
#960 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> I was playing with 2-tick clocks last night
#961 [04:43] <Kealper> you mean when we were both stumped with the fail?
#962 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> No, this was after you left for the night
#963 [04:44] <Kealper> oh...lol
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#965 [04:44] <ferminter> hello
#966 [04:44] <Kealper> OH......you mean when the NIC exploded
#967 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#968 [04:44] <Kealper> yeah....i've done stuff with like 8 1-tick timers going and it didn't seem to bother it
#969 [04:44] <ferminter> trying to play multiplayer and all i get is a black screen can anyone help
#970 [04:45] <relsqui> arensirb: oh yeah, I forgot that in minecraft username bans are actually binding
#971 [04:45] <relsqui> weird
#972 [04:45] <FFLaguna> Hmm, so nobody knows what "no tunneling" means in a servers' ruleset?
#973 [04:45] <Kealper> well anyways, i've got crap to do tomorrow...afk
#974 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Got a link to it somewhere?
#975 [04:45] <ferminter> trying to play multiplayer and all i get is a black screen can anyone help
#976 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#977 [04:45] <ferminter> anyone here
#978 [04:46] <Kealper> FFLaguna: it could also refer to making 1x1 vertical tunnels directly to bedrock
#979 [04:46] <Kealper> i've seen server ops flip out about that before
#980 [04:46] <ferminter> hello anyone here
#981 [04:46] <Kealper> ferminter: no, we're just in your head
#982 [04:46] <Kealper> now....that said....afk
#983 [04:47] <Kealper> (someone should probably help ferminter, too :P)
#984 [04:47] <ferminter> trying to play multiplayer and all i get is a black screen can anyone help
#985 [04:47] <ferminter> pleasre
#986 [04:47] <ferminter> i mean please
#987 [04:48] <ferminter> anyone?
#988 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> Well, what have you tried?
#989 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> Is this a recent thing? Could you play before?
#990 [04:49] <ferminter> yes i played it before
#991 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
#992 [04:51] <ferminter> it looks like it's going to load is said minecraft then it turn black and says This game requires Java. Press escape to release the mouse
#993 [04:51] <ferminter> windows 7
#994 [04:52] <FFLaguna> Kealper - Thanks
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#997 [04:53] <ferminter> so do you happen to know why
#998 [04:54] <GV> Couldn't tell you, but could you try deleting the .minecraft folder?
#999 [04:54] <GV> Save the .minecraft/saves folder
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#1001 [04:57] <ferminter> would that mess ANYTING up
#1002 [04:59] <zebax> Hi I have a few problems, anyone have time for a quick question or two?
#1003 [04:59] <ferminter> GV would that mess anything up if i delete that folder
#1004 [04:59] <GV> If you're already paid for minecraft, and have moved your /saves/ folder out of the way, and aren't running any mods...
#1005 [04:59] <GV> then no, it won't mess anything it. Minecraft will download fresh files when you relaunch it
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#1007 [04:59] <ferminter> going to try it now
#1008 [05:01] <GV> zebax - Don't be afraid to just ask your question.
#1009 [05:01] <GV> If somebody here knows the answer, you'll get a response.
#1010 [05:01] <zebax> Minecfat keeps crashing on my Macbook
#1011 [05:01] <zebax> And I can't join any servers for multiplayer
#1012 [05:02] <GV> Are you getting any errors? Any crash reports?
#1013 [05:02] <GV> What does it say when you try to join a server?
#1014 [05:02] <zebax> Yes everytime it crashes I get the "send to apple" report
#1015 [05:03] <GV> Can you give me any clue as to what that report contains?
#1016 [05:03] <zebax> 1 sec
#1017 [05:03] <GV> Is it possible to look at it? Maybe post it at pastebin.com?
#1018 [05:04] <zebax> I'm getting one right now:D
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#1020 [05:05] <zebax> It's really long
#1021 [05:05] <zebax> It seems to be a problem with Java
#1022 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Try a java update at your Software Center?
#1023 [05:06] <zebax> Thread 20 crashed: Java: Minecraft main thread
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#1025 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you post the entire thing at pastebin.com, then give me the URL to it?
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#1027 [05:07] <blinky> anyone here to help me
#1028 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
#1029 [05:08] <zebax> greyvulpine I will do, but it will take a few minutes
#1030 [05:08] <blinky> the classic version of minecraft when i try to do single player or multiplayer all i get is a black screen
#1031 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> blinky - Tried updating your java from Java.com? Tried looking for new video card drivers?
#1032 [05:13] <blinky> the beta works fine in the browser but the free classic don't
#1033 [05:13] <blinky> is the classic still working or it doesn't work anymore
#1034 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> It.. works
#1035 [05:14] <blinky> it worked before on me now it doesn't
#1036 [05:14] <blinky> on the bottom it says this game needs java mine is already updated
#1037 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure? Have you tried at java.com?
#1038 [05:15] <blinky> yes and it verifies it fine
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#1042 [05:17] <SinZ> !paid Kaizza
#1043 [05:18] <blinky> in the middle of the screen mindcraft words pop up for a few seconds then black screen
#1044 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? What browser are you using? Have you tried any other browsers?
#1045 [05:20] <SinZ> !check 121.217.212.253
#1046 [05:22] <blinky> windows 7 and i used firefox and internet explorer same thing
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#1048 [05:22] <gothroach> !check mc.0xf.org
#1049 [05:22] <gothroach> Nice
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#1051 [05:23] <FFLaguna> !check AuBot
#1052 [05:25] <blinky> if the paid version works why doesn't the free classic work
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#1055 [05:25] <Juggernaught> Hello
#1056 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1057 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> In firefox, are you able to pull up the java err..
#1058 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#1059 [05:26] <WeirdMisty> could anyone tell me whether there's any way to find a server that hasn't been posted anywhere?
#1060 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> If it hasn't been posted... how are you going to find it?
#1061 [05:26] <WeirdMisty> i started running a server a day ago and i'd like to keep it just to people i give the ip to
#1062 [05:26] <WeirdMisty> i am just making sure that other people won't somehow find it
#1063 [05:26] <gothroach> WeirdMisty: Don't post it anywhere.
#1064 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> There is no master list of beta servers anywhere
#1065 [05:26] <gothroach> Just give the address to people you want to join.
#1066 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> If you don't post it, or your players don't post it.. then it's private
#1067 [05:27] <gothroach> Or run a whitelist if you're paranoid.
#1068 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> It's not indexed like classic servers are
#1069 [05:27] <Juggernaught> A couple of friends and I want to play the minecolony mod but that requires a server for 1.2_2 (if it even works there)
#1070 [05:27] <WeirdMisty> ok thanks guys
#1071 [05:27] <Juggernaught> Can someone help me set up a 1.2_2 server, or at least find somewhere to download the software?
#1072 [05:27] <Blitz_9100> Hello, I was wondering if there is a tool to convert many old saves into the new format in 1 use
#1073 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> You can't. Only 1.3 is out
#1074 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Blitz_9100 - If you launch it with the new client, it'll automatically convert
#1075 [05:28] <Juggernaught> Ah. No legacy server downloads then?
#1076 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> We don't not officially support any older downloads here. Only binaries that come from minecraft.net are official.
#1077 [05:28] <Blitz_9100> oh ok
#1078 [05:29] <Juggernaught> Alright, thanks for the info.
#1079 [05:29] <Juggernaught> I'll continue searching
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#1081 [05:29] <Blitz_9100> Also I was wondering why mobs enter my house while I sleep
#1082 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> They like to watch you sleep?
#1083 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> Is your house sufficiently lighted?
#1084 [05:30] <gothroach> If they can, they will...
#1085 [05:30] <Blitz_9100> Yes and there is a door
#1086 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1087 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Beds
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#1089 [05:31] <schmmowl_> hi
#1090 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> "To ensure that you are not awakened unnecessarily during the night, the bed must not be placed along a 1 block thick wall, unless the area on the other side of the wall is also safe. If a hostile mob can get within 2 blocks of the bed, even if the blocks are separated by a wall, you will be awakened with the hostile mob standing next to you. There appears to be a slight delay before
#1091 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> the mob attacks you giving you time to get the first blow. "
#1092 [05:32] <gothroach> Nice, didn't know about the one block wall deal.
#1093 [05:32] <Blitz_9100> oh..
#1094 [05:32] <Blitz_9100> guess I should reinforce my walls
#1095 [05:32] <gothroach> With obsidian!
#1096 [05:32] <Blitz_9100> Thanks
#1097 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#1098 [05:33] <schmmowl_> after login in my minecraft, i become a blackscreen -.-" on my laptop (Grafic: Intel 945GM) can everyone helping pls?
#1099 [05:33] <schmmowl_> i have googled, too
#1100 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> schmmowl_ - And you've updated java, updated your video drivers?
#1101 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1102 [05:34] <schmmowl_> jop, java is on the latest version and minecraft too
#1103 [05:35] <schmmowl_> +the newest intel-drivers
#1104 [05:35] <schmmowl_> for my grafic-card
#1105 [05:35] <schmmowl_> I am confused :(
#1106 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
#1107 [05:36] <schmmowl_> windows 7 x64
#1108 [05:36] <schmmowl_> ultimate
#1109 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Is "Aero", the visual theme enabled on it?
#1110 [05:36] <schmmowl_> it is off
#1111 [05:37] <schmmowl_> should it be ON?
#1112 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> No, it's better off
#1113 [05:37] <schmmowl_> ok
#1114 [05:37] <schmmowl_> on my home-computer runs minecraft... but not on this laptop -.-
#1115 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Aero on Win7 can sometimes cause black screens
#1116 [05:37] <schmmowl_> 256MB-Grafic
#1117 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm...
#1118 [05:38] <schmmowl_> hmm maybe i should install winXP in the next time
#1119 [05:38] <schmmowl_> i dont know ^^
#1120 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried going to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1121 [05:38] <schmmowl_> jop i was in this folder
#1122 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Look for the .minecraft folder, delete everything inside but the saves folder?
#1123 [05:39] <schmmowl_> what i must do there?
#1124 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> Then relaunch minecraft
#1125 [05:39] <schmmowl_> that i have tested too. self screen
#1126 [05:39] <schmmowl_> with update...
#1127 [05:40] <schmmowl_> i will now try it again...
#1128 [05:41] <schmmowl_> he's downloading the packages, after that the blackscreen/grafic-problem
#1129 [05:41] <schmmowl_> "no screen" in the minecraft-windows
#1130 [05:41] <schmmowl_> -s
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#1132 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> It's still giving you that black screen schmmowl_?
#1133 [05:44] <schmmowl_> yes
#1134 [05:44] <schmmowl_> black-screen again
#1135 [05:45] <schmmowl_> its like more a grafic bug, because if i turn the minecraft-window left or right ...
#1136 [05:45] <schmmowl_> i will upload a picture
#1137 [05:48] <schmmowl_> this comes after my login
#1138 [05:48] <schmmowl_> http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/z933u8pn/black.png
#1139 [05:48] <schmmowl_> if i swing the window (left/right...) that: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/tff61p8g/black2.png
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#1142 [05:49] <FR^2> 41d0:1:ed2f::cafe PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Is there a list of public multiplayer servers I could join?
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#1144 [05:51] <Kreiger> Hey all.
#1145 [05:52] <Kreiger> I'm running a server for my friends, and one of them, who has connected successfully before, is having trouble connecting now.
#1146 [05:52] <Kreiger> Server console says /hisip lost connection
#1147 [05:53] <Kreiger> Any ideas?
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#1149 [05:53] <schmmowl_> port problem? Kreiger
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#1151 [05:53] <Herion> hey
#1152 [05:53] <Kreiger> I dunno, schmmowl_
#1153 [05:54] <Kreiger> I would assume that since he's connected before. it shouldnt.
#1154 [05:54] <Kreiger> and if he was going to.. wait
#1155 [05:54] <Herion> i want to buy minecraft but i can't buy with credit card and paypal -.-
#1156 [05:54] <Kreiger> i'm making sure he's using the right port.
#1157 [05:54] <Kreiger> I know my server is accessible, I have somebody else on it right now.
#1158 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Herion - Unforutunately, those are the only two ways to get minecraft righ tnow
#1159 [05:55] <Herion> omg this shit is ridiciloes
#1160 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> It's a downloadable game only, you can't go out to the stores to buy a boxed copy of minecraft.
#1161 [05:56] <Herion> i would pay with paysafecard
#1162 [05:56] <Herion> or handy
#1163 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> And good luck trying to get anything on the internet without a credit card, nevermind a paypal account
#1164 [05:57] <Kreiger> Herion, try one of those pre-paid visas from 7-11
#1165 [05:57] <schmmowl_> ok i think it is a problem with my system... thx for helping
#1166 [05:58] <Herion> i'm 15 years old that's the problem xD
#1167 [05:58] <relsqui> alternatively, if you have a friend with paypal/cc, get them to do it and then pay them back in cash
#1168 [05:58] <relsqui> where friend can include parent, here
#1169 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Kreiger - Prepaid visas can't usually be used for international purchases
#1170 [05:59] <relsqui> anyway
#1171 [05:59] * relsqui goes to bed
#1171 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> If you search on google, you'll see quite a few people have tried
#1172 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> "Minecraft + prepaid visa"
#1173 [06:00] <Kreiger> GreyVulpine, huh.
#1174 [06:00] <Kreiger> DOn't suppose you know about my problem, do ya?
#1175 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> Kreiger - Running 1.3?
#1176 [06:00] <Kreiger> Asye
#1177 [06:00] <Kreiger> aye*
#1178 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> have him try gradually turning down his graphics quality/fog, turn off smooth lighting, turn on frame limiter in his options
#1179 [06:01] <Kreiger> That would keep him from connecting?
#1180 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> See if he can connect after each step
#1181 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> It has been known to
#1182 [06:01] <Kreiger> ok.
#1183 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> At least a few people passed by here, telling us they've had some measure of success.
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#1185 [06:02] <Mikau> Is there an issue going on right now with the sound of picking up stuff not being played?
#1186 [06:03] <Mikau> or should I start troubleshooting?
#1187 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Well um.
#1188 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Is this on SP or SMP?
#1189 [06:03] <Mikau> SMP
#1190 [06:03] <Kreiger> GreyVulpine, the port it says he's trying to connect from changes each time.. like it'll be /70.67:32923 then /70.67.32919
#1191 [06:03] <Mikau> SP plays fine
#1192 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> That's normal Kreiger
#1193 [06:04] <Kreiger> k. wasn't sure if it was indicative of anything
#1194 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Mikau - Do you experience any other sort of delayed reaction? Lag? Blocks reappearing? Delayed chat?
#1195 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you actually get the blocks picked up, and just the sound doesn't get played?
#1196 [06:05] <Kreiger> GreyVulpine, no luck.
#1197 [06:05] <Mikau> It's just the sound not playing
#1198 [06:05] <Mikau> That's it.
#1199 [06:06] <Mikau> Other people said they don't hear the sound of blocks being picked up either.
#1200 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's weird, it plays fine for me, and I haven't seen any complaints about that here.
#1201 [06:06] <Mikau> anyone have a server address they can shoot me to test?
#1202 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Try forcing a fresh download by going to your client, selecting Options in the launcher. and going to
#1203 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> "Force game update"
#1204 [06:07] <Mikau> I tried that before coming here, no change.
#1205 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. hmm
#1206 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Kreiger - I don't know... It's worked before? It sounds just like 1.3 might be playing havoc on his system
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#1208 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> Mikau - I'm not sure how well this is going to go. Try... greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#1209 [06:12] <Mikau> Yeah, it's my server
#1210 [06:12] <Mikau> I hear the noise just fine on yours.
#1211 [06:12] <Mikau> Hmm
#1212 [06:13] <qable> Does anyone know if Topaz's SMP Toolkit works on Windows?
#1213 [06:14] <qable> On the wiki it says that it 'only' works in an Unix enviroment
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#1215 [06:14] <qable> environment*
#1216 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I'm not familiar with that
#1217 [06:14] <mib_tyf375> is anyone here
#1218 [06:14] <mib_tyf375> to help
#1219 [06:15] <mib_tyf375> hello?
#1220 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> Just ask mib_tyf375.
#1221 [06:15] <mib_tyf375> well my minecraft world has suddenly stopped working
#1222 [06:15] <mib_tyf375> it was working just a few hours ago
#1223 [06:15] <qable> Thanks anyway GreyVulpine, I'll continue my search :)
#1224 [06:16] <mib_tyf375> but now whenever i click that world
#1225 [06:16] <mib_tyf375> i can walk around and stuff
#1226 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> qable - Doesn't look like it though
#1227 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Tztk
#1228 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> "tztk expects a Unix-like environment (tested on Ubuntu, CentOS, Cygwin, and Mac OSX) and Perl. "
#1229 [06:16] <qable> yeah :/
#1230 [06:16] <mib_tyf375> but when i open inventory it freezes then closes itself
#1231 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_tyf375 - Probably a corrupt world. Try generating a new world
#1232 [06:16] <mib_tyf375> i made another world and it works fine
#1233 [06:16] <mib_tyf375> how do i fix a corrupt world
#1234 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Chances are slim, but maybe opening it up in MCedit, a map editor, and resaving it will fix it
#1235 [06:17] <qable> GreyVulpine: Seems like it CAN work on Windows too
#1236 [06:17] <qable> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=36523&start=30
#1237 [06:17] <qable> scroll down a bit and you'll see a screenshot
#1238 [06:17] <mib_tyf375> okey other than that its stuffed?
#1239 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Basically yes mib_tyf375
#1240 [06:18] <mib_tyf375> damn
#1241 [06:18] <mib_tyf375> i was in the middle of making a creeper staue out of wool
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#1243 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm yeah, that's running Cygwim though qable.
#1244 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Cygwin*
#1245 [06:19] <Leeni> holy.
#1246 [06:19] <Leeni> I expected people, but not this many
#1247 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> We're not a small channel...
#1248 [06:19] <qable> aye, I'll give a try and we'll seehow it goes
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#1250 [06:20] <Leeni> I can see that now~
#1251 [06:20] <mib_tyf375> any other options? that didnt work
#1252 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> At times, this channel's chattier than even #minecraft
#1253 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_tyf375 - Sorry, nope. That world's basically hosted.
#1254 [06:23] <Leeni> Hmm... does anyone have any experience running lan multiplayer games? :\
#1255 [06:23] <mib_tyf375> well that is ANNOYING
#1256 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> er, hosed*
#1257 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Leeni - ?
#1258 [06:23] <Leeni> Ha, I think I fixed my own problem..
#1259 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Heh, alright then.
#1260 [06:24] <Leeni> my server wasn't outdated, my minecraft client is
#1261 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Aah...
#1262 [06:25] <Leeni> Or not.
#1263 [06:26] <mib_tyf375> does anyone have a link to the latest minecraft item edit
#1264 [06:27] <mib_tyf375> an edit that includes wool
#1265 [06:27] <mib_tyf375> hello?
#1266 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> try http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=193457
#1267 [06:28] <mib_tyf375> thanks
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#1269 [06:29] <mib_tyf375> thats a fix not a download
#1270 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Yes...?
#1271 [06:29] <mib_tyf375> nvm i found it
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#1273 [06:31] <Leeni> Hmm, I wish I could tell what the newest server version was.
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#1275 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> Should tell you in the server's console/output
#1276 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> At the very top
#1277 [06:32] <Leeni> Version Beta 1.3
#1278 [06:32] <Leeni> I'm just not sure if that's most recent
#1279 [06:33] <Leeni> I mean, I JUST downloaded it from minecraft.net
#1280 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> That's the latest
#1281 [06:33] <Leeni> Hmm
#1282 [06:33] <Leeni> I wonder why I'm getting the error then..
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#1284 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#1285 [06:33] <Leeni> Outdated client error
#1286 [06:33] <Leeni> Which is curious..
#1287 [06:34] <Chance> Why does it say cannot send to channel when I try to say something?
#1288 [06:34] <Chance> oh
#1289 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> What version is your client?
#1290 [06:34] <Chance> it did it on #minecraft
#1291 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Chance - Registered nick?
#1292 [06:34] <Chance> not this
#1293 [06:34] <Leeni> My client is 1.3 as well
#1294 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email
#1295 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> then, follow the directions from there chance
#1296 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Leeni - It's not 1.3_01?
#1297 [06:35] <Leeni> Oh, wait. It says 1.3 on the main page, but it's 1.2_02 once I get in
#1298 [06:35] <Leeni> hmm
#1299 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Um
#1300 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> 1.2 is definitely the previous version
#1301 [06:35] <Leeni> Haha
#1302 [06:35] * Leeni facepalms
#1302 [06:35] <Leeni> okay
#1303 [06:36] <Leeni> I forgot to log on on this machine..
#1304 [06:36] <Leeni> it hadn't updated
#1305 [06:38] <Chance> hmm
#1306 [06:38] <Chance> I don't know what to do
#1307 [06:38] <Chance> I guess I could help some people
#1308 [06:38] <Chance> lol
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#1310 [06:38] <Leeni> Fixed like a boss
#1311 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Yay
#1312 [06:39] <Leeni> :D
#1313 [06:39] <Leeni> If it didn't actually work, I'll be back..
#1314 [06:39] <Leeni> :)
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#1321 [07:02] <izzd> hi, can I change what mouse1 does to another key?
#1322 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> izzd - Unless you can do it with your mouse driver, no.
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#1324 [07:04] <izzd> ok, is there a reason why thats not in options?
#1325 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't give you an answer, I don't know myself.
#1326 [07:04] <izzd> k thanks
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#1329 [07:11] <mib_tyf375> yay just made a creeper statue :)
#1330 [07:11] <mib_tyf375> he has a penis as a ladder
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#1334 [07:25] <ItsCriminal> great now my spawnpoint is again fucked and people die to death --.--
#1335 [07:25] <ItsCriminal> WTF is wrong with that ^^
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#1337 [07:30] <ItsCriminal> one question, how about the chunk i find is crap, that you fall and fall and you see slowly the world and dead ^^
#1338 [07:30] <ItsCriminal> but how i can channge that cos nobody can play anymore they die straight again
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#1340 [07:32] <Kouken> Can you guys tell me how to get my server ssl and stuff
#1341 [07:32] <Kouken> so I can use a mod to relay irc
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#1344 [07:36] <Shieldinator> Can anyone help me regarding black screen? I keep loosing all my progress cause of random black screens which causes me to reboot minecraft :S
#1345 [07:38] <Szernex> Try render distance at normal
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#1347 [07:40] <MrCrashdummy> I need help with my server
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#1349 [07:43] <MrCrashdummy> Any people at all?
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#1354 [07:50] <Franz> hi there
#1355 [07:50] <Franz> I found a render bug
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#1357 [07:51] <Franz> I could make a fence disappear/reappear simply by placing a block near the fence
#1358 [07:52] <stania12> Hello everyone, i just startet creating a server for me and my friends, i have install everyting and joining server perfect, who does the blox come back after destroing them?
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#1360 [07:55] <stania12> what do i do wrong?
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#1365 [08:08] <frogaincia> Hi i wanted to ask if its possible to duplicate items on minecraft multiplayer ;p (no bad intentions..)
#1366 [08:09] <nevercast> frogaincia, Nope. Not without perhaps a mod to do so
#1367 [08:09] <nevercast> frogaincia, so no
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#1373 [08:31] <FIREJ15> hi
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#1375 [08:31] <FIREJ15> how do i join a server with irc
#1376 [08:32] <stania12> Hello everyone, i just startet creating a server for me and my friends, i have install everyting and joining server perfect, who does the blox come back after destroing them?
#1377 [08:32] <FIREJ15> wat
#1378 [08:32] <FIREJ15> wats the server name
#1379 [08:33] <FIREJ15> wat is it :(
#1380 [08:34] <stania12> mine?
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#1382 [08:39] <Shieldinator> great... game crashed AGAIN
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#1386 [08:46] <wikkit> Hello everyone
#1387 [08:46] <wikkit> I have some questions about my server... is anyone active here?
#1388 [08:47] <wikkit> Anyone...:(
#1389 [08:48] <Postoffice> fix the fucking server allready!
#1390 [08:48] <wikkit> Are there any people here that can help
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#1392 [08:49] <Postoffice> tell your question :) i migth be able to help :P
#1393 [08:49] <wikkit> Thank you
#1394 [08:49] <ArmEagle> sigh, lately half the time, or now more, when I start the game (1.3_01) after the login the game runs at full cpu and is very slow..
#1395 [08:49] <wikkit> well the deal is that I'm making a server
#1396 [08:49] <wikkit> which is easy and all but I do not want it to appear at the list
#1397 [08:50] <wikkit> because I just want my best friend and myself in it (people destroy everything)
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#1400 [08:50] <wikkit> so now when I make the link it says that the url isn't active anymore or something like that
#1401 [08:50] <wikkit> I want to give him the secret link for joining so no1 else can join
#1402 [08:50] <Postoffice> wikkit: have you downloaded the minecraft_server.exe from minecraft.net?
#1403 [08:50] <wikkit> but I can't for some reason log in myself into it
#1404 [08:51] <jeeva> I bought 2x gift codes for people, who promised me they would pay me back (since they don't have credit cards). However they are ignoring my requests for them to pay me. Is there anyway I can retract the gift codes? and reissue them?
#1405 [08:51] <wikkit> I've made my own server made him op etc, can change name followed instructions, forwarded my port
#1406 [08:51] <wikkit> played on it for a few days
#1407 [08:51] <wikkit> then random people come in and destroy
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#1409 [08:52] <Postoffice> there is a way that me and my frinds are using, we are using "hamachi" as a netwrk, so other ppl cant join
#1410 [08:52] <wikkit> I use hamachi
#1411 [08:52] <wikkit> aswell
#1412 [08:52] <wikkit> yet people join
#1413 [08:52] <Postoffice> then you diont need to forward ports
#1414 [08:52] <arensirb> dang
#1415 [08:52] <Kreiger> Any way of connecting to SMP with www.minecraft.net down?
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#1417 [08:52] <arensirb> isminecraftdown.net is so useless
#1418 [08:52] <arensirb> it only checks every 5 mins :S
#1419 [08:52] <wikkit> postoffice
#1420 [08:52] <wikkit> in my way
#1421 [08:52] <wikkit> I had to forward aswell as ham
#1422 [08:53] <Postoffice> hm, thats strange
#1423 [08:53] <wikkit> I just want no1 else joining except my best friend.. that's it..
#1424 [08:53] <Kreiger> Guys? :P
#1425 [08:53] <Postoffice> then you can add a whitelist
#1426 [08:53] <Postoffice> so, if your not in the list, you cant join
#1427 [08:54] <wikkit> really how?
#1428 [08:54] <Postoffice> but i'm not sure how :P
#1429 [08:54] <wikkit> ugh mate...
#1430 [08:54] <wikkit> thanks anyways...
#1431 [08:54] <Kreiger> Anybody else getting Response Code: 503?
#1432 [08:54] <Postoffice> haha :)
#1433 [08:56] <jeeva> yeah
#1434 [08:56] <jeeva> Kreiger
#1435 [08:56] <jeeva> same
#1436 [08:56] <Kreiger> jeeva, yeah. I think it's cause Minecraft.net is down.
#1437 [08:56] <Kreiger> Why the hell is this down :P
#1438 [08:57] <Rait> when trying to start up my server using the command prompt, i get "Unrecognized option: -xmx1024m. Could not create the Java virtual machine."
#1439 [08:57] <Postoffice> bacause the sercers are overloaded...
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#1441 [08:57] <Kreiger> He makes HOW much money?
#1442 [08:57] <Postoffice> he sells around 10 000 copies each 24 hrs
#1443 [08:57] <Kreiger> Yeah.
#1444 [08:57] <Postoffice> so, i dont see the problem to upgrade...
#1445 [08:57] <Kreiger> get better serves imo.
#1446 [08:57] <Kreiger> servers
#1447 [08:57] <SkiingPenguins> pretty good for an indie dev ;)
#1448 [08:58] <Kreiger> SkiingPenguins, it would be, but the servers are down
#1449 [08:58] <Kreiger> so SMP is screwed
#1450 [08:58] <SkiingPenguins> they've been down for the past month it feels like
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#1452 [08:58] <Kreiger> I can't even connect to the server on my own computer
#1453 [08:58] <stania12> Hello everyone, i just startet creating a server for me and my friends, i have install everyting and joining server perfect, who does the blox come back after destroing them? .
#1454 [08:58] <Kreiger> localhost is rejected
#1455 [08:59] <Postoffice> it's not wort bying the game anymore, untill he have fixed the servers..
#1456 [08:59] <Rait> Kreiger, i've been using my server this whole week, works fine.
#1457 [08:59] <Kreiger> stania12, cause you are trying to break blocks near spawn.
#1458 [08:59] <ripley8> about half an hour ago I had no problem with minecraft.net showing me the homepage and link to the official forum.
#1459 [08:59] <Kreiger> Rait, I was on before, but it's very sporadic.
#1460 [08:59] <Kreiger> I know. try NOW.
#1461 [08:59] <ripley8> but just now I got a blank screen...
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#1463 [08:59] <Kreiger> ^^
#1464 [08:59] <stania12> i have walked a long way from spawn
#1465 [08:59] <Kreiger> Stania, lag?
#1466 [09:00] <Sooi11> are the servers down?
#1467 [09:00] <Kreiger> Yes
#1468 [09:00] <ripley8> my trouble is since it upgraded to 1.3 today it fails initializing the graphics and I get a black windows...
#1469 [09:00] <Sooi11> k
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#1472 [09:00] <stania12> not much, do also fall out of the map, "where the map ends"
#1473 [09:01] <Goury> Is there another place to download the minecraft server for unix other then minecraft.net >.<
#1474 [09:01] <Postoffice> the maps dont end, your server are laggy. when uur at "the end" it means that the server cant load the chunks
#1475 [09:02] <stania12> okay, tanks
#1476 [09:02] <SkiingPenguins> the point of a minecraft map is to almost never end
#1477 [09:02] <SkiingPenguins> if it ends, something went wrong
#1478 [09:02] <ripley8> Goury: I wish I had downloaded the current release of the server so I'd be able to help you
#1479 [09:02] <Postoffice> just wait for the cloud server to get stable again
#1480 [09:03] <Goury> I just set up my ubuntu machine for the server, got java working. Just as I click the download it went down lol...
#1481 [09:03] <stania12> is it normal that the server yous 400mb memory?
#1482 [09:03] <ArmEagle> you know.. i think minecraft.net is running on Twitter! The latter is down and I'm having issues :P
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#1484 [09:03] <ripley8> ArmEagle: well, since the homepage show notch's tweets, you may be up to something...
#1485 [09:04] <Postoffice> our server uses 1.3gb of memory
#1486 [09:04] <stania12> ousch :P
#1487 [09:04] <Postoffice> it uses araound 100MB pr player
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#1489 [09:04] <Postoffice> and then the server file there after
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#1491 [09:05] <Kreiger> WTB minecraft fixed. it's the middle of the day over there.
#1492 [09:05] <Kreiger> whats the issue?
#1493 [09:05] <wikkit> Anyone know how to make a server private so that no1 comes in
#1494 [09:05] <Kreiger> play singleplayer
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#1496 [09:05] <SkiingPenguins> wikkit: you cant do that, the point of the server is to LET people come in
#1497 [09:06] <wikkit> I want ONLY my friend inside
#1498 [09:06] <ripley8> Kreiger: it's saturday?
#1499 [09:06] <SkiingPenguins> well that's different
#1500 [09:06] <wikkit> a 2 man project, since everything I do gets destroyed SkiingPenguins
#1501 [09:06] <ripley8> like in weekend?
#1502 [09:06] <Dortan> minecraft.net is down. Ant ETA ?
#1503 [09:06] <wikkit> do you have any idea mate?
#1504 [09:06] <Postoffice> when minecraf.net is down, it can take hours to days
#1505 [09:07] <Kreiger> ripley8, so?
#1506 [09:07] <Kreiger> I've hosted and run servers.
#1507 [09:07] <wikkit> SkiingPenguins: mate any idea?
#1508 [09:07] <SkiingPenguins> no
#1509 [09:07] <Kreiger> If they went down, you got out of a deathbed to fix that shit.
#1510 [09:07] <jeeva> whats the default player name if you're in offline mode
#1511 [09:07] <Kreiger> Your /job/ is to make sure they don't go down :P
#1512 [09:08] <SkiingPenguins> jeeva: "Player"
#1513 [09:08] <jeeva> thanks
#1514 [09:08] <ripley8> Kreiger: do you know the SLA times that mojang gets? I don't.
#1515 [09:08] <ripley8> half an hour ago I had no problem browsing the web site so give them some slack, will you?
#1516 [09:10] <jeeva> is there a plugin that I can set the spawn location of all new players the first time they join ?
#1517 [09:10] <Postoffice> why do you need to set a new spawn?
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#1521 [09:11] <ItsCriminal> jeeva try EssentialsSpawn
#1522 [09:11] <ItsCriminal> u can make groupe spawns
#1523 [09:12] <Kreiger> I use Myhome
#1524 [09:12] <Kreiger> it gives me /spawn, /setspawn /home and /sethome
#1525 [09:12] <Kreiger> as well as /back if you die.
#1526 [09:14] <jeeva> yeah, but i dont want players to /spawn or teleport
#1527 [09:14] <jeeva> its just a once off - first time player or death thing
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#1529 [09:15] <Kreiger> well, you can set it so only admin and console can /setspawn and /spawn
#1530 [09:15] <Kreiger> which is how i have it.
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#1533 [09:17] <litehammer> any one know what a return http 503 code is?
#1534 [09:17] <Kreiger> minecraft.net is down
#1535 [09:17] <Kreiger> and we need it to connect to SMP
#1536 [09:17] <litehammer> oh i thought i broke my MC i was updateing my texture pak hehe
#1537 [09:17] <Kreiger> lol
#1538 [09:17] <Kreiger> nope
#1539 [09:18] <litehammer> k ty
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#1541 [09:19] <ripley8> since the upgrade to 1.3 today I get an exception (java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError, caused by java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException somewhere in the opengl initialization) when the game starts and a black window. I tried starting with an empty ".minecraft" folder but that doesn't help. any ideas?
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#1544 [09:25] <farandir> Hi. Login server are down?
#1545 [09:25] <farandir> *servers
#1546 [09:25] <farandir> Got 503
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#1548 [09:26] <Aduis1210> hey there
#1549 [09:27] <Aduis1210> error 503?
#1550 [09:27] <Carmen> I understand Minecraft.net is down, but has it been down since last night?
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#1552 [09:27] <Aduis1210> noo its been on this morning its just happend
#1553 [09:27] <Carmen> Sigh
#1554 [09:28] <Carmen> figures.
#1555 [09:28] <Carmen> Go to sleep last night because it's down, wake up and it's down. I'll never be able to configure this server :(
#1556 [09:29] <Aduis1210> any admin staff give some info about 503 error?
#1557 [09:30] <qable> seems to be down
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#1559 [09:31] <TheNytangel> its ok everyone
#1560 [09:31] <TheNytangel> im here
#1561 [09:31] <Aduis1210> lol
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#1563 [09:32] <TheNytangel> +
#1564 [09:32] <TheNytangel> oops
#1565 [09:32] <TheNytangel> brb
#1566 [09:32] <Aduis1210> software issue hardware issue or did someone unplug to hoover lol
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#1570 [09:35] <Aduis1210> btw how many griefers u guys seen?
#1571 [09:35] <jeeva> what a stupid question ..
#1572 [09:35] <jeeva> lol
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#1574 [09:36] <TheNytangel> back
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#1576 [09:38] <Aduis1210> i started a server a day ago and its been ransacked 4 times
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#1578 [09:39] <ConMan8> That's why you make new players have no editing priveleges
#1579 [09:40] <Aduis1210> forgot to set it
#1580 [09:40] <Aduis1210> thanks conman8
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#1584 [09:45] <Carmen> Has the client to start the game on the website been fixed yet, or do we still have to use the older one?
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#1586 [09:46] <SkiingPenguins> my minecraft launcher works fine
#1587 [09:46] <Carmen> Mmkay.
#1588 [09:47] <ConMan8> Yeah, right
#1589 [09:47] <ConMan8> It's working on only one of my computers
#1590 [09:48] <Carmen> http://isminecraftdown.net/ says website is up but none of it is working. Nnnngh. :(
#1591 [09:48] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1592 [09:49] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1593 [09:49] <ConMan8> The website is _up_ but it's unresponsive
#1594 [09:50] <SkiingPenguins> it tells you that it's not working, aka "HTTP Error 503 (Service Unavailable): The server is currently unable to handle the request. This code indicates this is a temporary condition, and the server will be up again after a delay."
#1595 [09:51] <Carmen> Ah, alright,.
#1596 [09:51] <Aduis1210> soo with loads of players trying to log in
#1597 [09:51] <Aduis1210> wont it overload the server?
#1598 [09:52] <ConMan8> Yep..
#1599 [09:52] <ConMan8> Do your bit! Go to sleep!
#1600 [09:52] <Aduis1210> its day here lol
#1601 [09:52] <Carmen> I just woke up, I went to sleep when it was down last night. :(
#1602 [09:52] <TheNytangel> i just woke up
#1603 [09:53] <TheNytangel> i went to sleep when my server went corrupt
#1604 [09:53] <ConMan8> ..sleep in!
#1605 [09:53] <Aduis1210> i wanna play on my suvival server
#1606 [09:53] <ConMan8> Offline mode?
#1607 [09:53] <Aduis1210> no
#1608 [09:54] <Carmen> Im trying to setup a server a friend had bought when it started going down last night =P And I was messing around with texture packs this morning and deleted my bin folder without thinking.
#1609 [09:54] <Carmen> Derp.
#1610 [09:54] <ConMan8> Recycle Bin!
#1611 [09:54] <Aduis1210> what kinda server you making?
#1612 [09:55] <ConMan8> I'm totally solving problems here.
#1613 [09:55] <Carmen> Hurrah!
#1614 [09:55] <Carmen> And we don't know yet.
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#1616 [09:55] <Aduis1210> well u helped me with mu user problem conman
#1617 [09:55] <Aduis1210> my*
#1618 [09:55] <Coban> Minecraft.net down ?
#1619 [09:55] <Carmen> I've been looking into bukkit.
#1620 [09:55] <Aduis1210> yes coban
#1621 [09:55] <Coban> fak
#1622 [09:55] <Coban> :D
#1623 [09:55] <Aduis1210> getting error 503?
#1624 [09:55] <ConMan8> Minecraft's signature 503 error
#1625 [09:56] <TheNytangel> me too
#1626 [09:56] <Coban> ...
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#1628 [10:00] <Aduis1210> well im upgrading my server now
#1629 [10:01] <Rait> Nyehh, what's with the minecraft.net?
#1630 [10:01] <SkiingPenguins> Rait it's being quirky
#1631 [10:05] <Aduis1210> what is the 503 error?
#1632 [10:07] <TheNytangel> 503 = minecraft.net is down
#1633 [10:08] <Aduis1210> i know that
#1634 [10:08] <TheNytangel> then dont ask..
#1635 [10:08] <Aduis1210> but is it serverside?
#1636 [10:08] <TheNytangel> -_-
#1637 [10:08] <TheNytangel> minecraft.net = website
#1638 [10:08] <Aduis1210> let me rephrase
#1639 [10:08] <Aduis1210> java problem or net problem
#1640 [10:08] <TheNytangel> lol
#1641 [10:08] <TheNytangel> net
#1642 [10:08] <Aduis1210> o right
#1643 [10:09] <TheNytangel> idk im just guessing :P
#1644 [10:09] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1645 [10:09] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
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#1648 [10:20] <jeeva> !isdown minecraft.net
#1649 [10:20] <GreyBot> jeeva: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
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#1653 [10:24] <ConMan8> !slap ConMan8
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#1655 [10:24] <KA_Gamer> Another slow day?
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#1657 [10:24] <SheerCold> Actually i needed to ask a question
#1658 [10:24] <KA_Gamer> OK.
#1659 [10:24] <nevercast> Minecraft, a multi-million dollar idea crafted inside a Top Hat.
#1660 [10:24] <nevercast> .. I do like Notch's hat though
#1661 [10:24] <SheerCold> probably the same as 10 other people but
#1662 [10:24] <KA_Gamer> ??< ask
#1663 [10:24] <gamakichi> i can not go to minecraft.net
#1664 [10:25] <nevercast> gamakichi, no one can
#1665 [10:25] <nevercast> gamakichi, it's down
#1666 [10:25] <gamakichi> oh
#1667 [10:25] <SheerCold> Minecraft classic goes to white screen on multiplayer servers
#1668 [10:25] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, fail
#1669 [10:25] <nevercast> ?? ask
#1670 [10:25] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1671 [10:25] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1672 [10:25] <nevercast> LOL WHAT
#1673 [10:25] <KA_Gamer> Do you know when it'll be back up?
#1674 [10:25] <nevercast> Where's the bot!
#1675 [10:25] <nevercast> oh there
#1676 [10:25] <SheerCold> i can play smp, alpha, classic single
#1677 [10:25] <nevercast> It'll be up when it's up
#1678 [10:25] <SheerCold> but not multiplayer classic >.>
#1679 [10:25] <nevercast> I can check twitter
#1680 [10:25] <ConMan8> eh
#1681 [10:26] <SheerCold> also I am using Windows 7
#1682 [10:26] <KA_Gamer> What's the twitter username?url?
#1683 [10:26] <SheerCold> and the same thing happened on chrome/ie/firefox
#1684 [10:26] <ConMan8> 503 on minecraft.net, that's why
#1685 [10:26] <KA_Gamer> Minecraft.net is down for everyone.
#1686 [10:26] <nevercast> No news on twitter.
#1687 [10:26] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#1688 [10:26] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1689 [10:26] <SheerCold> Oh.
#1690 [10:26] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1691 [10:26] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, http://twitter.com/nvrcast/minecraft
#1692 [10:26] <KA_Gamer> Thanks ^_^
#1693 [10:26] <nevercast> welcome
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#1695 [10:27] <KA_Gamer> hey Netu, got a problem.
#1696 [10:27] <KA_Gamer> Let me tell you somethin first.
#1697 [10:27] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#1698 [10:27] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1699 [10:27] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1700 [10:28] <ConMan8> >.>
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#1702 [10:29] <nevercast> I think Netu is a regular here.
#1703 [10:30] <arensirb> VoxelHead: "some time"
#1704 [10:30] <VoxelHead> arensirb, I am a bot.
#1705 [10:30] <arensirb> damn
#1706 [10:30] <KA_Gamer> Dang, I want some people that need help. Tech support is boring today. You'd think you'd get a billion poeple saying "mc.net is down" so I can type in ?? mc.net/down.
#1707 [10:30] <arensirb> KA_Gamer: And "tell" ? doesnt that imply "speak" ?
#1708 [10:31] <arensirb> err
#1709 [10:31] <arensirb> my bad
#1710 [10:31] <KA_Gamer> ^For a sec I was like, "What you talkin' 'bout?"
#1711 [10:32] <Xerati> i need help
#1712 [10:32] <Xerati> can i ask for help here?
#1713 [10:32] <ConMan8> ?? ask
#1714 [10:32] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1715 [10:32] <Xerati> minecraft.net seems to be down
#1716 [10:32] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1717 [10:32] * Xerati hides
#1717 [10:32] <Carmen> Lol
#1718 [10:32] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#1719 [10:32] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1720 [10:32] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1721 [10:33] * Xerati facepalms
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#1722 [10:33] <ConMan8> VoxelHead is being slow on the ask..
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#1724 [10:33] <KA_Gamer> IK.
#1725 [10:34] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1726 [10:34] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1727 [10:35] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#1728 [10:35] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1729 [10:35] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1730 [10:35] <Xerati> hey, is minecraft down??????
#1731 [10:35] <KA_Gamer> ??> Xerati mc.net/down
#1732 [10:35] * Xerati dives for cover from angry flaming
#1732 [10:35] <VoxelHead> Xerati: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1733 [10:35] <VoxelHead> Xerati: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1734 [10:36] <Xerati> KA_Gamer, can I ask a question?
#1735 [10:36] <Xerati> I need help....
#1736 [10:36] <Xerati> I can't seem to access the site
#1737 [10:36] <KA_Gamer> ??> XERATI MC.NET/DOWN
#1738 [10:36] <VoxelHead> XERATI: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1739 [10:36] <VoxelHead> XERATI: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
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#1741 [10:36] <Kreiger> Xerati, are you incapable of reading?
#1742 [10:37] <Kreiger> I mean seriously.
#1743 [10:37] <KA_Gamer> All the mods are AFK
#1744 [10:37] <Kreiger> the site is down, you've had like 8 people ask since you came in, and had a bot tell you SPECIFICALLY twice.
#1745 [10:37] <ConMan8> say it again if you really want to
#1746 [10:38] <Carmen> Is the site down?
#1747 [10:38] * Carmen runs
#1747 [10:38] <ConMan8> Come oonn say it aggaaiin
#1748 [10:38] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1749 [10:38] <TheNytangel> ^
#1750 [10:38] <KA_Gamer> ConMan, you got +v right? (not using normal irc client)
#1751 [10:38] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1752 [10:38] <ConMan8> ;_;
#1753 [10:39] <KA_Gamer> VOXELHEAD: YES! MC.NET IS DOWN. DEAL WITH IT!
#1754 [10:39] <VoxelHead> KA_Gamer, I am a bot.
#1755 [10:39] <KA_Gamer> I know that.
#1756 [10:39] <AceC> oh why did i log out :P
#1757 [10:39] <Kreiger> ^^
#1758 [10:39] <Xerati> so is the site down?
#1759 [10:39] <Xerati> can I ask for help?
#1760 [10:39] <KA_Gamer> ?? ask
#1761 [10:39] <Kreiger> YES
#1762 [10:39] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1763 [10:39] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1764 [10:39] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#1765 [10:39] <Kreiger> and now you can't ask for help.
#1766 [10:39] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1767 [10:39] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1768 [10:39] <Kreiger> What you CAN do, is die.
#1769 [10:40] <Xerati> wow, you guys are completely oblivious
#1770 [10:40] <TheNytangel> lol what do you need help with Xerati
#1771 [10:40] <Kreiger> to what?
#1772 [10:40] <ConMan8> ?
#1773 [10:40] <Xerati> TheNytangel, minecraft seems down
#1774 [10:40] <Xerati> i need help
#1775 [10:40] <TheNytangel> yes
#1776 [10:40] <TheNytangel> it is
#1777 [10:40] * ChanServ kicked Xerati from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by ConMan8 (shush))
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#1779 [10:40] <Kreiger> rofl.
#1780 [10:40] <Xerati> not fun ConMan8
#1781 [10:40] <TheNytangel> be patient
#1782 [10:40] <TheNytangel> it will be up
#1783 [10:40] <ConMan8> Yay!
#1784 [10:40] <Xerati> tell them to stop spamming it
#1785 [10:40] <Kreiger> What do you need help with, Xerati?>
#1786 [10:40] <SkiingPenguins> this is why you shouldnt let 12 year olds on the internet :|
#1787 [10:40] <KA_Gamer> Can we change the subject of the channel to mc.net is down, so don't ask if it is or why it is.
#1788 [10:40] <TheNytangel> hey
#1789 [10:40] <Xerati> Kreiger, the site seems to be down
#1790 [10:40] <TheNytangel> im 13
#1791 [10:40] <TheNytangel> dur
#1792 [10:40] <TheNytangel> XD
#1793 [10:40] <SkiingPenguins> obviously
#1794 [10:40] <TheNytangel> Xerati, yes
#1795 [10:41] <Kreiger> Xerati, how are we supposed to help with that?
#1796 [10:41] <TheNytangel> you need to wait
#1797 [10:41] <Kreiger> 13, huh? I have a van with candy and comic books.
#1798 [10:41] <Xerati> jesus christ people
#1799 [10:41] <KA_Gamer> Well, I'm 13. Do I seem it?
#1800 [10:41] <TheNytangel> Xerati
#1801 [10:41] <ConMan8> Xerati: We can't do anything about that, only the members of Mojang can
#1802 [10:41] <Xerati> KA_Gamer, yes
#1803 [10:41] <TheNytangel> JUST WAIT FOR THE STUPID WEBSITE TO COME BACK UP, NOOB
#1804 [10:41] <Xerati> ConMan8, i know
#1805 [10:41] <SkiingPenguins> yes you all seem like childrens
#1806 [10:41] <ConMan8> Kreiger: I think that's meant for like 7-year-olds
#1807 [10:41] <Xerati> TheNytangel, STOP FALLING FOR MY TRICKS
#1808 [10:41] <Xerati> TheNytangel, i need help
#1809 [10:41] <TheNytangel> no
#1810 [10:41] <TheNytangel> you dont
#1811 [10:41] <Xerati> can I ask you a question?
#1812 [10:41] <TheNytangel> yes
#1813 [10:41] <TheNytangel> the website is down
#1814 [10:41] <TheNytangel> we get it
#1815 [10:41] <KA_Gamer> ?? ask
#1816 [10:41] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1817 [10:41] <Kreiger> .... I'm confused now.
#1818 [10:42] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1819 [10:42] <Xerati> ^^see?
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#1821 [10:42] <TheNytangel> what is your stupid queston
#1822 [10:42] <Xerati> i've been saying 3 things repeatedly
#1823 [10:42] <KA_Gamer> "The website is down" isn't a question.
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#1825 [10:42] <Xerati> "I need help"
#1826 [10:42] <Xerati> "Can I ask for help"
#1827 [10:42] <Kreiger> KA_Gamer, i think xerati is trolling or w/e
#1828 [10:42] <ConMan8> Stop making VoxelHead say stuff
#1829 [10:42] <TheNytangel> WHAT DO YOU NEED HELP WITH
#1830 [10:42] <Xerati> "Is the website down"
#1831 [10:42] <TheNytangel> yes
#1832 [10:42] <TheNytangel> dont ask to ask
#1833 [10:42] <Xerati> and i get like 5 people flooding
#1834 [10:42] <Kreiger> He doesn't need help with anything.
#1835 [10:42] <Xerati> I DONT NEED HELP
#1836 [10:42] <ConMan8> Come on Xerati
#1837 [10:42] <Kreiger> he's trolling.
#1838 [10:42] <Xerati> i'm not even trolling
#1839 [10:42] <TheNytangel> im ignoring him -_-
#1840 [10:42] <Kreiger> Sure you are.
#1841 [10:42] <Kreiger> Badly.
#1842 [10:42] <AceC> sure you dint need help?... :)
#1843 [10:42] <Xerati> not even a little bit
#1844 [10:42] <ConMan8> I kicked you already, and that means stop what you were doing
#1845 [10:43] <TheNytangel> Xerati, if the website is down, wait for the stupid thing to come back up
#1846 [10:43] <TheNytangel> and stop asking about it
#1847 [10:43] <Xerati> ConMan8, get the flooders to stop
#1848 [10:43] <Kreiger> AceC, he does need help. He needs to learn how to troll better
#1849 [10:43] <TheNytangel> we cant change it
#1850 [10:43] <Kreiger> TheNytangel, he knows it's down HE
#1851 [10:43] <Kreiger> S TROLLING YOU.
#1852 [10:43] <Xerati> jesus fucking christ you people are retarded
#1853 [10:43] <Kreiger> stop responding to him.
#1854 [10:43] <Xerati> anyways, time for work
#1855 [10:43] <Kreiger> >implying you are over 13
#1856 [10:43] <TheNytangel> i would say "kick him" but that would be nice
#1857 [10:43] <Kreiger> >implying anybody would hire you to work for them
#1858 [10:43] * ChanServ kicked ConMan8 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by ConMan8 (I'LL START BY KICKING THIS GUY!))
#1859 [10:43] <KA_Gamer> Can you change the subject of the channel to "MC.NET is down. Please don't ask if it is or why it is." ConMan8
#1860 [10:44] <Xerati> Kreiger, I work at Microsoft in XBox live :)
#1861 [10:44] <TheNytangel> no
#1862 [10:44] <TheNytangel> he doesnt
#1863 [10:44] <Xerati> but you can try to troll my age/job all you want
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#1865 [10:44] <jeeva> /timer /say mc.net is down :P
#1866 [10:44] <Kreiger> >implying you are telling the truth
#1867 [10:44] <Xerati> byez
#1868 [10:44] <Kreiger> >implying I give a shit about Xbox
#1869 [10:44] <TheNytangel> Xerati, just leave
#1870 [10:44] <TheNytangel> you dont work for microsoft
#1871 [10:44] <TheNytangel> :P
#1872 [10:44] <Carmen> >implying Xbox live tech support is anything special
#1873 [10:44] <SkiingPenguins> heh
#1874 [10:45] <Kreiger> >implying they aren't retarded with anything more complicated than "WHY CAN"T I SIGN IN?" "WHY DOES IT SAY IM BANNED?? THE HACKS WERE UNDETECTABLE"
#1875 [10:45] <KA_Gamer> This implying thing is gonna get old.
#1876 [10:45] <TheNytangel> lol
#1877 [10:45] <Xerati> sorry, not that side
#1878 [10:46] <Xerati> i work on keeping the servers online for devs
#1879 [10:46] <TheNytangel> Xerati, youd better not be late
#1880 [10:46] <ConMan8> >implying I kicked myself
#1881 [10:46] <Kreiger> KA_Gamer, >implying it will ever get old
#1882 [10:46] <SkiingPenguins> childrens make me angry
#1883 [10:46] <Xerati> i won't be, it's a 5 minute drive :P
#1884 [10:46] <TheNytangel> well leave
#1885 [10:46] <TheNytangel> i dun like you
#1886 [10:46] <Xerati> i was debating on getting mcdonalds
#1887 [10:46] <Xerati> why, because i pointed out a flaw?
#1888 [10:46] <TheNytangel> it isnt a flaw
#1889 [10:46] <TheNytangel> its normal
#1890 [10:46] <Kreiger> >implying Xerati has a drivers license.
#1891 [10:46] <ConMan8> -_-"
#1892 [10:46] <Xerati> jesus, KA_Gamer was flooding 10 lines every time someone joined
#1893 [10:46] <TheNytangel> good
#1894 [10:46] <Xerati> Kreiger, i drive a 99 corvette
#1895 [10:46] <TheNytangel> stop judging us
#1896 [10:47] <AceC> can spy-chickens activate stone plates?
#1897 [10:47] <Xerati> although it's beat up and broken ish :(
#1898 [10:47] <Kreiger> lul.
#1899 [10:47] <TheNytangel> you havent been here for a day yet
#1900 [10:47] <Xerati> TheNytangel, i've been here MANY days, moron
#1901 [10:47] <Kreiger> k, i'm done watching you try to troll.
#1902 [10:47] <TheNytangel> * Xerati (Xerati@c-98-203-255-46.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #MineCraftHelp
#1903 [10:47] <Kreiger> I'm going back to my GSL STream
#1904 [10:47] <ConMan8> AceC: They actually weigh the same as the player or a cow, yes
#1905 [10:47] <Carmen> >Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
#1906 [10:47] <AceC> lol ok :)
#1907 [10:47] <Xerati> TheNytangel, so i'm not allowed to disconnect/rejoin?
#1908 [10:47] <ConMan8> Carmen: How can you this there?
#1909 [10:47] <Kreiger> Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?
#1910 [10:47] <TheNytangel> nu
#1911 [10:48] <TheNytangel> lol Kreiger
#1912 [10:48] <Xerati> my only point of the apparent "trolling" was to point out the fact that KA_Gamer was essentially flooding constantly
#1913 [10:48] <Xerati> however, he is young (13)
#1914 [10:48] <Xerati> what's your excuse?
#1915 [10:49] <Xerati> and with that i depart
#1916 [10:49] <Xerati> i'll remote in from work in ~30
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#1918 [10:49] <TheNytangel> my excuse?
#1919 [10:49] <TheNytangel> your a noob
#1920 [10:50] <ConMan8> ...?
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#1922 [10:50] <Kreiger> you're*
#1923 [10:50] <Kreiger> Hey Con, whats a guy gotta do to get banned from this irc chat?
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#1925 [10:51] <arensirb> TheNytangel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKrvCVAD2xA
#1926 [10:51] <arensirb> Noob song! :D
#1927 [10:52] <KA_Gamer> Is that link directed to me>
#1928 [10:52] <KA_Gamer> *?
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#1930 [10:53] <arensirb> KA_Gamer: umm, no?
#1931 [10:53] <arensirb> It was a response to TheNytangel's <TheNytangel> your a noob
#1932 [10:53] * ConMan8 pokes other people at the tops of the nicklist
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#1933 [10:54] <TheNytangel> now i cant stop bouncing up and down -__
#1934 [10:54] <TheNytangel> -_-*
#1935 [10:56] <KA_Gamer> Aw,what happened to the voive ConMan8?
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#1937 [10:58] <nevercast> KA_Gamer IS a flooding 13 year old noob.
#1938 [10:58] <nevercast> But he'll learn
#1939 [10:58] <nevercast> TheNytangel, How old are you?
#1940 [10:58] <TheNytangel> 13 :P
#1941 [10:58] <TheNytangel> said that yesterday
#1942 [10:58] <nevercast> Well take some lessions from KA_Gamer, He's more mature than you are.
#1943 [10:59] <nevercast> Grow up! And never fight with those superior to you.
#1944 [10:59] <trollnjn> 13y olds on irc...how is this even legal? -.-
#1945 [10:59] <TheNytangel> how is it not legal
#1946 [11:00] <trollnjn> exactly!
#1947 [11:00] <nevercast> trollnjn, Because it's mostly 13 year olds that pay Notch's beers and nurf gun refils
#1948 [11:00] <trollnjn> :/
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#1950 [11:01] <KA_Gamer> Nevercast: Thank you.
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#1952 [11:02] <night98> hi i need help
#1953 [11:02] <night98> i cant get into the mindcraft website
#1954 [11:02] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#1955 [11:02] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#1956 [11:02] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#1957 [11:03] <KA_Gamer> There you are, night98!
#1958 [11:03] <night98> ok thanks
#1959 [11:04] <Xerati> wow, i wasn't expecting it to be that damn cold :(
#1960 [11:04] <Xerati> my car was frozen shut
#1961 [11:05] <qable> meh, what's going on with error code 503?
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#1963 [11:05] <`3x3L> Hello
#1964 [11:05] <qable> been like this for hours now
#1965 [11:05] <qable> sorry, just read the one post above, alright :)
#1966 [11:05] <`3x3L> Can someone please tell me when the login will be up again?
#1967 [11:05] <Xerati> when it's fixed
#1968 [11:05] * CoZmicShReddeR [CoZmicShReddeR@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#1969 [11:05] <`3x3L> Ohh :(
#1970 [11:06] <nevercast> Xerati, You back though?
#1971 [11:06] <nevercast> Xerati, Did you get me a Pizza?
#1972 [11:06] <nevercast> Damn I want a Pizza :(
#1973 [11:06] <Xerati> I made it to work
#1974 [11:06] <Xerati> took me like 15 seconds to open my door
#1975 [11:06] <Xerati> and then i only defrosted the driverside window
#1976 [11:07] <Xerati> and...i want a pizza now <_<
#1977 [11:07] <nevercast> lol sorry
#1978 [11:07] <KA_Gamer> As far as logins, we don't know. All we know is this.
#1979 [11:07] <KA_Gamer> ?? ask
#1980 [11:07] <nevercast> and oops I just cleared my window :D
#1981 [11:07] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1982 [11:07] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1983 [11:07] <Xerati> KA_Gamer, dude...
#1984 [11:07] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, Stop using VoxelHead
#1985 [11:07] <nevercast> SERIOUSLY
#1986 [11:07] <SheerCold> so yeah does anyone have that white screen minecraft classic multiplayer problem
#1987 [11:07] * Xerati waddles away
#1987 [11:07] <SheerCold> or did anyone before mc.net shut down
#1988 [11:08] <nevercast> xales, who owns VoxelHead ?
#1989 [11:08] <KA_Gamer> Notch
#1990 [11:08] <Xerati> no
#1991 [11:08] <Xerati> lol
#1992 [11:08] <KA_Gamer> I presumes.
#1993 [11:08] <KA_Gamer> *presume.
#1994 [11:08] <Xerati> it's someone in this channel
#1995 [11:08] <Xerati> i thought it was xales
#1996 [11:08] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, FAIL
#1997 [11:08] <nevercast> yeah ditto
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#1999 [11:09] <nevercast> GV, Kealper, who owns VoxelHead ?
#2000 [11:09] <KA_Gamer> He runs the channel.
#2001 [11:09] <KA_Gamer> Notch does, I mean.
#2002 [11:09] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, who does?
#2003 [11:09] <Xerati> no he doesn't lol
#2004 [11:09] <nevercast> No he doesn't
#2005 [11:09] <Xerati> i've never seen him in here
#2006 [11:09] <Xerati> Notch works on coding the game, and that's about it
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#2008 [11:09] <Xerati> well, in regards to minecraft support
#2009 [11:09] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, Notch makes the Minecraft game.. that's it.. he doesn't even run the website.
#2010 [11:10] <KA_Gamer> I saw Notch in here once.
#2011 [11:10] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, The real notch, or some lamer?
#2012 [11:10] <Xerati> i've never seen him in this channel
#2013 [11:10] <Xerati> i've seen him in #minecraft, but only once
#2014 [11:10] <nevercast> Xerati, No, mollstam is Web Developer.. Notch really doesn't do website
#2015 [11:11] <Xerati> are you telling me that?
#2016 [11:11] <Xerati> i never said he did website
#2017 [11:11] <nevercast> yes.
#2018 [11:12] <nevercast> Xerati> well, in regards to minecraft support
#2019 [11:12] <Xerati> i said all he does is coding the game, in regards to minecraft support
#2020 [11:12] <nevercast> I thought you said, He does website just not support
#2021 [11:12] <Xerati> yeah, that's his only function
#2022 [11:12] <Xerati> reread what i said :P
#2023 [11:12] <Xerati> all lines*
#2024 [11:12] <nevercast> ahhh
#2025 [11:12] <nevercast> okay :)
#2026 [11:12] <nevercast> yeah that's his ownly function
#2027 [11:12] <nevercast> that and drinking beer, going on vaction and wearing a hat
#2028 [11:12] <Xerati> lol
#2029 [11:12] <nevercast> *only
#2030 [11:13] <KA_Gamer> nevercast: Well, a user apeared here named just plain "Notch" once.
#2031 [11:13] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, It wasn't Notch/
#2032 [11:13] <Notch> see
#2033 [11:13] <Notch> Wasn't him
#2034 [11:13] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2035 [11:13] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2036 [11:13] <nevercast> TheNytangel, still down ;)
#2037 [11:14] <TheNytangel> im having withdrawls..
#2038 [11:14] <TheNytangel> lol jk
#2039 [11:14] <TheNytangel> im just bored
#2040 [11:14] <nevercast> lol.
#2041 [11:14] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Do you wanna play the game?
#2042 [11:14] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Does your game run in offline mode?
#2043 [11:14] <TheNytangel> no it connects
#2044 [11:14] <TheNytangel> just not to multiplayer
#2045 [11:14] <TheNytangel> im playing singleplayer now
#2046 [11:14] <KA_Gamer> I wanted to play on my server today, but I can't because minecraft.net is down, dang it!
#2047 [11:15] <nevercast> TheNytangel, nevercast.net
#2048 [11:15] <SheerCold> I can't even get on multiplayer classic servers
#2049 [11:15] <nevercast> TheNytangel, Connect to that server.
#2050 [11:15] <Xerati> nevercast, is it in offline mode?
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#2052 [11:15] <nevercast> Xerati, at the moment yeah
#2053 [11:16] <KA_Gamer> Hey offbitz.
#2054 [11:16] <offbitz> hello
#2055 [11:16] <Xerati> wtf
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#2058 [11:18] <nevercast> Xerati, you wtf?
#2059 [11:18] <Carmen> is nevercast.net the whole address?
#2060 [11:18] <Xerati> yes
#2061 [11:19] <FR^2> 41d0:1:ed2f::cafe PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :hmm.
#2062 [11:19] <Carmen> <3
#2063 [11:19] <FR^2> 41d0:1:ed2f::cafe PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I can't log onto my own server (127.0.0.1) anymore... java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 503 for URL: http://www.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp.....
#2064 [11:21] <AceC> hmm.. trying to put something in my circuit to delay the signal but need it to have same status (1/0) as the input... any tips for that? without having more than 1 block
#2065 [11:21] <AceC> :)
#2066 [11:21] <AceC> so input = output
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#2068 [11:22] <Xerati> ??
#2069 [11:22] <Xerati> you want a 1 block delay?
#2070 [11:23] <Xerati> use the new repeater
#2071 [11:23] <AceC> yes so my doora open at the same time
#2072 [11:23] <AceC> hehe im running out of space under this door :)
#2073 [11:24] <Xerati> O_o
#2074 [11:24] <KA_Gamer> FR^2: Minecraft.net is down, so no one can login to manage their server, or use the minecraft.net server, so the only thing you can do is play offline.
#2075 [11:24] <AceC> doing double doors with lock and 2 plates :)
#2076 [11:25] <FR^2> 41d0:1:ed2f::cafe PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :KA_Gamer: Thanks, after some search I came across that ;)
#2077 [11:25] <FR^2> 41d0:1:ed2f::cafe PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :http://www.rad-forum.de/showflat/Number/290547/page/4 <-- same issue
#2078 [11:25] <KA_Gamer> Sorry for not responding sooner.
#2079 [11:25] <Xerati> if it's double doors, you'll want to use an inverter
#2080 [11:25] <Xerati> KA_Gamer, you can play online so long as the servers are in offline mode
#2081 [11:25] <Xerati> like nevercast's
#2082 [11:25] <FR^2> 41d0:1:ed2f::cafe PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :KA_Gamer: No worries
#2083 [11:26] <AceC> if i put another device in the other door will be delayed and the the problen is the same :)
#2084 [11:26] <KA_Gamer> I don't have a dedicated server, though, I'm using *gulp* vanilla *gulp* on my PC.
#2085 [11:26] <Xerati> for doubledoors, you just need 1 inverter
#2086 [11:26] <Xerati> they will not be at the exact same second, but it's as close as you'll get
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#2088 [11:27] <FR^2> 41d0:1:ed2f::cafe PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Xerati: How do I start my server in offline mode?
#2089 [11:27] <Xerati> KA_Gamer, you can still put itin offline
#2090 [11:27] <Xerati> the conf
#2091 [11:27] <Xerati> properties file or whatever
#2092 [11:27] <Xerati> offline-mode=on or something
#2093 [11:27] <Xerati> check the wiki documentation for server configuration
#2094 [11:27] <KA_Gamer> Thanks.
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#2097 [11:28] <FR^2> 41d0:1:ed2f::cafe PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Xerati: thanks
#2098 [11:28] <KA_Gamer> online-mode=false is the proper way to do it.
#2099 [11:29] <KA_Gamer> that
#2100 [11:29] <Xerati> yeah that
#2101 [11:29] <KA_Gamer> *That's unsecure.
#2102 [11:29] <ConMan8> insecure*
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#2104 [11:30] <Livity> minecraft host down?
#2105 [11:30] <SheerCold> yes
#2106 [11:30] <Livity> any idea why?
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#2108 [11:30] <litehammer> withdraw fever
#2109 [11:30] <Snaggo> halp :(
#2110 [11:30] <Xerati> it's just down
#2111 [11:30] <KA_Gamer> Whatever. The point is hackers can use any username.
#2112 [11:31] <Xerati> KA_Gamer, yeah, that's true
#2113 [11:31] <Xerati> but if it's your server, so?
#2114 [11:31] <KA_Gamer> That worked great, except I have to update the server.
#2115 [11:31] <KA_Gamer> Ignore please:
#2116 [11:31] <Snaggo> when i join any server i just keep on falling for a while, then i can move but not interact and everything is laggy
#2117 [11:31] <Xerati> and do you really think that you'll be overrun by hackers in this downtime period?
#2118 [11:31] <KA_Gamer> !server
#2119 [11:31] <Snaggo> finally i drop from the server
#2120 [11:31] <Xerati> Snaggo, sounds like you have a bad connection or bad pc
#2121 [11:31] <KA_Gamer> True, Xerati.
#2122 [11:31] <Xerati> or picked a really bad server
#2123 [11:32] <AceC> inverter on plate output - switch - inverter on door 1 repeater on 2... that does it :D
#2124 [11:32] <Snaggo> well everything was ok before the update
#2125 [11:32] <Snaggo> i've tried reinstalling and updating java
#2126 [11:32] <Livity> Huoh I was just finishing my minecart system QQ
#2127 [11:32] <Xerati> there is a little more bulk in the update now...
#2128 [11:32] <Xerati> but if it really was 'fine' beforehand, then dunno
#2129 [11:33] <Snaggo> damn
#2130 [11:33] <Snaggo> wat do? :/
#2131 [11:36] * `3x3L [`3x3L@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#2132 [11:36] <Xerati> Snaggo, try turning off betterlighting
#2133 [11:36] <KA_Gamer> Offline mode spawns me in a random spot in the world, so it doesn't work well.
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#2135 [11:36] <Snaggo> tried already, all settings on minimal
#2136 [11:36] <Xerati> that's the spawn...
#2137 [11:37] <AceC> and your inventory is empty :)
#2138 [11:37] <Xerati> yes
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#2141 [11:38] <AceC> tip: before you log out.. put all your stuff in a chest :D
#2142 [11:39] <Snaggo> hmmm
#2143 [11:39] <Snaggo> i just realized i can't find my /.minecraft/ or /AppData/ anywhere :o
#2144 [11:39] <Xerati> probably hidden
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#2146 [11:39] <Xerati> press windowskey+R
#2147 [11:39] <Snaggo> c:/users/user/appdata?
#2148 [11:39] <SheerCold> yeah
#2149 [11:40] <Xerati> type in %appdata%
#2150 [11:40] <SheerCold> it has a %
#2151 [11:40] <Xerati> it doesn't in the literal path
#2152 [11:40] <Snaggo> o ye
#2153 [11:40] <Xerati> and i believe you need roaming
#2154 [11:40] <Xerati> i did at least
#2155 [11:40] <Snaggo> hmm, i usually was able to navigate to that folder
#2156 [11:41] <Kealper> rawr
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#2159 [11:42] <Blood_display> Hey guys, I'm talking from my iPhone
#2160 [11:42] <Kealper> why not get an irc app for it?
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#2162 [11:43] <ConMan8> Isn't that alrea-
#2163 [11:43] <Blood_display> My App Store no work ATM
#2164 [11:43] <Snaggo> i also usually get an "can't find main class" error on startup, but it doesn't appear on re-launch.
#2165 [11:43] <Snaggo> but it's been like that forever
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#2167 [11:44] <Kealper> O.o
#2168 [11:44] <Blood_display> Anyone here seen Tyteen4a03?
#2169 [11:44] <Kealper> Snaggo: ever try reinstalling java? not sure if that will fix it, but it might
#2170 [11:45] <Kealper> !seen tyteen4a03
#2171 [11:45] <Kealper> no one was ever in here with that name :/
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#2173 [11:46] <Blood_display> !seen Tyteen4a03
#2174 [11:46] <historydenier> hello, need some help please. my buddy and I have a little server that runs on our local network. we played great under 1.2_02, but as soon as we updated to 1.3 he had had horrendous laggy performance. sp is fine, but in smp he takes forever to load the world, and his client takes forever to update the chunks or w/e. any ideas?
#2175 [11:47] <Blood_display> History Pm me I'll help
#2176 [11:47] <Kealper> historydenier: what sort of lag? choppy gameplay or very delayed actions?
#2177 [11:47] <historydenier> we have tried moving the server to his computer, and he has completely reinstalled his client and java.
#2178 [11:47] <Kealper> also...
#2179 [11:47] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2180 [11:47] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2181 [11:47] <Kealper> ?? irc/dontpm
#2182 [11:47] <TheNytangel> -_-
#2183 [11:47] <VoxelHead> irc/dontpm: We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#2184 [11:47] <historydenier> like he does something, i can see what he did, but he takes forever to see it.
#2185 [11:48] <Blood_display> Historydenier: Look at your PM
#2186 [11:48] <Kealper> ok so it's just things in general are super delayed?
#2187 [11:48] <Kealper> there is nothing that can be done, this appears to be a bug that quite a few people are having with 1.3 :/
#2188 [11:48] <historydenier> yeah, everything
#2189 [11:48] <historydenier> blarg
#2190 [11:48] <Blood_display> Okay, using this iPhone sucks
#2191 [11:49] <Kealper> only thing you can do is just wait for a fix :/
#2192 [11:49] <Kealper> although
#2193 [11:49] <Blood_display> History try setting the thing to fast beside fanacy
#2194 [11:49] <Kealper> one of the users on my server was having that problem, and i figured out his problem
#2195 [11:49] <Blood_display> It's in the video options
#2196 [11:49] <historydenier> okay
#2197 [11:49] <Kealper> blood it's not pc lag
#2198 [11:49] <Blood_display> O
#2199 [11:50] <Blood_display> Well, I tried
#2200 [11:50] <Kealper> historydenier: has you or your friend ever used anything called the HD texture patcher"?
#2201 [11:50] <Kealper> or any mod at all, for that matter?
#2202 [11:50] <Xerati> the pirated version of mc
#2203 [11:50] <historydenier> not that i know of
#2204 [11:50] <Xerati> with mods
#2205 [11:51] <Blood_display> Hmmm
#2206 [11:51] <historydenier> we both have legit copies. and tried with fresh servers and clients and worlds and whatnot :\
#2207 [11:51] <Kealper> Xerati: HD texture patcher will totally break beta 1.3, and it will make the clients lag horrendously
#2208 [11:51] <nevercast> Hey Kealper
#2209 [11:51] <Kealper> nevercast: ello
#2210 [11:51] <nevercast> Anyone from AG here?
#2211 [11:51] <nevercast> Kealper, Join my server.. I'm testing it out :D
#2212 [11:51] <Kealper> historydenier: yeah, sounds like you got this mystery lag bug then...no idea what causes it or how to fix it atm :/
#2213 [11:52] <historydenier> alright. figured as much. thanks guys!
#2214 [11:52] <Kealper> nevercast: get a name yet?
#2215 [11:52] <Blood_display> nevercast: I'll test it out :o
#2216 [11:52] <Kealper> historydenier: sorry we couldn't help :/
#2217 [11:52] <Xerati> Kealper, good to know
#2218 [11:53] <nevercast> Kealper, nevecast.net
#2219 [11:53] <nevercast> Blood_display, nevercast.net
#2220 [11:53] <Xerati> nevercast*
#2221 [11:53] <nevercast> ye
#2222 [11:53] <Kealper> Xerati: weird thing about it, is it gives no drop in FPS, it actually makes everything have that weird like... 1+ minute of lag on anything
#2223 [11:53] <Blood_display> I gotta go, bye
#2224 [11:53] <[NFO]Kadgar> !isdown minecraft.net
#2225 [11:53] <GreyBot> [NFO]Kadgar: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2226 [11:53] <Xerati> Kealper, i haven't seen it
#2227 [11:53] <Xerati> on my work or home pc
#2228 [11:53] <Xerati> or known anyone with the issue
#2229 [11:53] <Kealper> nevercast: make a subdomain like.. smp.nevercast.net or mc.nevercast.net :o
#2230 [11:54] <Xerati> no, i like it simple!
#2231 [11:54] <Kealper> Xerati: yeah, that's why i had the person retry it...i was like "wut? how does that...what is this i don't even..."
#2232 [11:55] <nevercast> Kealper, to the same IP ? lol.
#2233 [11:55] <Kealper> nevercast: why not? makes it look spiffy
#2234 [11:55] <nevercast> okay one sec
#2235 [11:56] <Kealper> because then you can be all sweet and go "yeah, i run my own minecraft server, just punch in smp.nevercast.net and you're golden."
#2236 [11:56] <nevercast> lol. nice :D
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#2238 [11:57] <Xerati> nevercast is going around infecting people
#2239 [11:57] <nevercast> lol how so?
#2240 [11:57] <Xerati> just messing
#2241 [11:57] <Xerati> calm down sir!
#2242 [11:57] <nevercast> Kealper, smp.nevercast.net has been added to my domain :D
#2243 [11:57] <nevercast> Xerati, dude I am calm
#2244 [11:57] <Xerati> CALM DOWN
#2245 [11:58] <nevercast> NO YOU!!!RAGE
#2246 [11:58] <Kealper> sir, i'm going to have to ask you to calm down.
#2247 [11:58] <Kealper> sir...
#2248 [11:58] <Kealper> calm down sir
#2249 [11:58] <Kealper> ^ gets people angreh
#2250 [11:58] <nevercast> RAGE
#2251 [11:58] <offbitz> i'm gonna calm up
#2252 [11:58] <offbitz> it's the hip new thing
#2253 [11:58] <nevercast> That's it I'm going to ban 'Player' names
#2254 [11:58] <nevercast> lol.
#2255 [11:58] <nevercast> It's annoying
#2256 [11:59] <Kealper> i already banned player from my server
#2257 [11:59] <offbitz> that guy is a douche
#2258 [11:59] <ConMan8> ban those Player`s
#2259 [11:59] <Kealper> since i run it in offline mode when the login server acts up
#2260 [12:00] <nevercast> Kealper, My wrapper works perfectly.. It's invisble lol.
#2261 [12:00] <AceC> got kicked: player already loggged in from another location :P
#2262 [12:00] <nevercast> Kealper, Start up script has no idea it's any different.
#2263 [12:00] <nevercast> AceC, you did?
#2264 [12:00] <AceC> yep
#2265 [12:00] <nevercast> AceC, Means you're loggin in as Player
#2266 [12:00] <nevercast> AceC, Make sure you have 1.3 launcher
#2267 [12:00] <Kealper> nevercast: well yeah, that's the point of a wrapper...to stealthily be awesome :o
#2268 [12:01] <Xerati> orly
#2269 [12:01] <AceC> ok :)
#2270 [12:01] <Carmen> nevercast, the launcher you were sending me come sup with "Cannont run in DOS mode"
#2271 [12:01] <nevercast> Carmen, really?
#2272 [12:01] <Xerati> bahahaha
#2273 [12:01] <Kealper> fail
#2274 [12:01] <nevercast> WTF
#2275 [12:01] <Xerati> here, lemme put my copy up
#2276 [12:01] <Carmen> Yes, want a screenshot?
#2277 [12:01] <Kealper> *gasp*
#2278 [12:01] <nevercast> Carmen, I believe you
#2279 [12:01] <Kealper> Xerati: that's against the rules :/
#2280 [12:02] <nevercast> Kealper, I uploaded mine.. Idgaf!
#2281 [12:02] <Carmen> I finally got it able to pause without closing out as soon as it finished and that's the message I got.
#2282 [12:02] <Kealper> *doublegasp*
#2283 [12:02] <Xerati> it's an identical copy of the launcher
#2284 [12:02] <Kealper> oh
#2285 [12:02] <nevercast> Kealper, It's not the game.. just launcher
#2286 [12:02] <Xerati> because the site is down
#2287 [12:02] <Xerati> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16597026/Minecraft%283%29.exe
#2288 [12:02] <Kealper> if it's the new launcher, go for it
#2289 [12:02] <nevercast> ^
#2290 [12:02] <Carmen> I HAD the new launcher, but removed it when it didn't work.
#2291 [12:02] <Xerati> ignore the 3
#2292 [12:02] <nevercast> Dropbox ftw
#2293 [12:02] <Xerati> i have many copies lol
#2294 [12:02] <Kealper> i thought you meant the old launcher
#2295 [12:02] <nevercast> lol.
#2296 [12:02] <Xerati> no, ew
#2297 [12:02] <Kealper> carry on then
#2298 [12:02] <Xerati> the old one causes the problem Carmen is having anyway
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#2300 [12:03] <nevercast> smp.nevercast.net
#2301 [12:03] <nevercast> works
#2302 [12:03] <nevercast> :D
#2303 [12:03] <Xerati> LOL
#2304 [12:03] <Kealper> stop typing so fast!
#2305 [12:03] <Xerati> xD!
#2306 [12:04] <Carmen> There we go.
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#2309 [12:06] <Krisstr> hello
#2310 [12:06] <Kealper> hi
#2311 [12:06] <Krisstr> is something wrong with minecraft multiplay?
#2312 [12:07] <Xerati> the minecraft login server is down
#2313 [12:07] <Kealper> minecraft.net is down right now
#2314 [12:07] <Krisstr> oh, why?
#2315 [12:07] <Kealper> too many people trying to log in at once :/
#2316 [12:07] <offbitz> potato famine
#2317 [12:07] <Krisstr> aha
#2318 [12:08] <Krisstr> any idea when its able to log on again?
#2319 [12:08] <Xerati> whenever they fix it :(
#2320 [12:08] <Krisstr> alright
#2321 [12:10] <arensirb> damn been down for long
#2322 [12:10] <Krisstr> how long?
#2323 [12:10] <arensirb> too long
#2324 [12:10] <Xerati> 14 days
#2325 [12:10] <Krisstr> haha
#2326 [12:10] <arensirb> 2011-02-26 15:06
#2327 [12:10] <arensirb> thats when i wrote the script to check for me
#2328 [12:10] <arensirb> its 1810 now
#2329 [12:10] <arensirb> atleast 3-4-5 hours
#2330 [12:11] <Xerati> 3 hours, 4 minutes
#2331 [12:11] <Krisstr> hmm, cant be down for much longer
#2332 [12:11] <arensirb> So my script runs every 30 secs :)
#2333 [12:11] <Livity> it just went down
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#2335 [12:11] <Xerati> well geez
#2336 [12:11] <Xerati> you're dosing the site
#2337 [12:11] <Livity> im playing on offline mode :S
#2338 [12:11] <Xerati> no wonder it's down
#2339 [12:11] <arensirb> Xerati: LOL
#2340 [12:11] <Xerati> xD
#2341 [12:11] <arensirb> one request every 30 secs
#2342 [12:11] <arensirb> dozing.. right
#2343 [12:11] <arensirb> mcn@mcnorge:~$ ./mcnet.php
#2344 [12:11] <arensirb> Minecraft Login is DOWN!
#2345 [12:11] <Xerati> it clearly can't handle it!
#2346 [12:11] <arensirb> lol
#2347 [12:11] <arensirb> clearly
#2348 [12:11] <arensirb> remember
#2349 [12:11] <Xerati> ooooh php
#2350 [12:12] <arensirb> theres a million other users doing the same
#2351 [12:12] <arensirb> :P
#2352 [12:12] <Xerati> yeah
#2353 [12:12] <Xerati> me too
#2354 [12:12] <Xerati> i have my botnet attacking it to see if it's up
#2355 [12:12] <Xerati> it's not
#2356 [12:12] * Xerati chuckles
#2356 [12:12] <arensirb> lol
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#2360 [12:14] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> minecraft.net down for anyone else, then me?
#2361 [12:14] <nevercast> AG_Clinton, AG_Elias, AG_Scott ?
#2362 [12:15] <arensirb> xGhOsTkiLLeRx: everyone
#2363 [12:15] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> damn, i have to change my password :S
#2364 [12:15] <Xerati> what is ag
#2365 [12:15] <Xerati> i'm so confused
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#2367 [12:17] <nevercast> Xerati, AllGamer.net
#2368 [12:17] <nevercast> Xerati, It's my VPS host
#2369 [12:17] <Xerati> aha!
#2370 [12:17] <Xerati> is this a trick?
#2371 [12:17] <Xerati> are you trying to get in my pants?
#2372 [12:17] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :am i the only one that can't access minecraft.net?
#2373 [12:18] <Xerati> no
#2374 [12:18] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :k, just making sure it isn't some freak local prob
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#2376 [12:18] <nevercast> Xerati, just visit the site
#2377 [12:19] <Xerati> i did :P
#2378 [12:20] <arensirb> Ridonk: doesnt it say 503 in your client?
#2379 [12:20] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yeah
#2380 [12:20] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :didn't see the number til you said
#2381 [12:20] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :not used to using chrome yet
#2382 [12:21] <arensirb> chrome?
#2383 [12:21] <arensirb> i ment in your minecraft.exe
#2384 [12:21] <arensirb> :p
#2385 [12:21] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :oh, i'm still on the old launcher
#2386 [12:21] <Xerati> fix that
#2387 [12:21] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :i was looking for the website
#2388 [12:22] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :last time i used the new launcher i couldn't launch
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#2390 [12:22] <Xerati> that was when it was down
#2391 [12:22] <Xerati> the old one is broken now
#2392 [12:22] <Xerati> :P
#2393 [12:22] <Xerati> use the new one
#2394 [12:22] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :meh, can't fix it til website is up anyway
#2395 [12:22] <Xerati> here
#2396 [12:22] <Xerati> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16597026/Minecraft%283%29.exe
#2397 [12:22] <Xerati> that's the newer launcher
#2398 [12:22] <Xerati> you can still play offline or on offline servers, without issues
#2399 [12:22] <Snaggo> deleted and reinstalled java, reinstalled minecraft, no result :(
#2400 [12:23] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :isn't it against terms to distribute outside of the website?
#2401 [12:23] <Xerati> i'm not distributing the game
#2402 [12:23] <Xerati> just the .exe client
#2403 [12:23] <Ridonk> 818a:1ed8::818a:1ed8 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :lol, i watched 3 guys get kicked for the same thing
#2404 [12:23] <blitzzcrank> any1 got an idea on whats happening for minecraft.net
#2405 [12:23] <blitzzcrank> ?
#2406 [12:23] <Xerati> and i'm not giving out the old client (which is broken anyway)
#2407 [12:23] <Snaggo> yea, offline works okay
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#2409 [12:25] <krono> Xerati: is ther a new launcher for osx, too?
#2410 [12:26] <arensirb> blitzzcrank: its down
#2411 [12:28] <Xerati> krono, i don't think so :S
#2412 [12:28] <Xerati> no idea
#2413 [12:28] <Xerati> not a mac user
#2414 [12:29] <krono> k thx
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#2416 [12:30] <Aiken> Anybody here?
#2417 [12:30] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> minecraft.net is online again, at least for me
#2418 [12:30] <Xerati> 197 people are
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#2420 [12:31] <Aiken> Chatting I mean sorry lol.
#2421 [12:31] <Aiken> Minecraft.net is working for me now also.
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#2423 [12:31] <litehammer> its up now
#2424 [12:32] <KA_Gamer_Away> !isminecraft.net down
#2425 [12:32] <ConMan8> until people crash it with auth attempts etc.
#2426 [12:33] <Aiken> Can anyone help me with portforwarding my Mc server?
#2427 [12:33] <Xerati> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#2428 [12:33] <GreyBot> Xerati: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#2429 [12:33] <Aiken> I ported it on my router but after portchecking it still says it's closed.
#2430 [12:34] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> run the minecraft server & check then
#2431 [12:34] <Xerati> Aiken, those situations are too complex and convoluted to help with
#2432 [12:34] <Xerati> haha, yeah, do what xGhOsTkiLLeRx said
#2433 [12:34] <Xerati> that'd be silly
#2434 [12:34] <Xerati> if it was that
#2435 [12:34] <SheerCold> okay now i can ask god
#2436 [12:35] <Aiken> Nah,it's running right now.
#2437 [12:35] <SheerCold> i can't play minecraft classic multiplayer servers pls to help
#2438 [12:35] <Aiken> Just tried.
#2439 [12:35] <Aiken> So my situation is too complicated to be worth helping?
#2440 [12:35] <xales> SheerCold: Nobody can. it is down
#2441 [12:35] <Xerati> it's up
#2442 [12:35] <xales> Aiken: what is the problem?
#2443 [12:36] <Xerati> err, was up?
#2444 [12:36] <xales> Xerati: classic list
#2445 [12:36] <Xerati> or is classic di
#2446 [12:36] <Xerati> nvm then ^^
#2447 [12:36] <SheerCold> oh down
#2448 [12:36] <SheerCold> Well before this
#2449 [12:36] <xGhOsTkiLLeRx> Aiken, I would try to help you ;)
#2450 [12:36] <Livity> hmm, question does animals spawn on grass only? or also on stone?
#2451 [12:36] <Xerati> passive on grass
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#2453 [12:36] <SheerCold> java shuts off after minecraft says "switching applet"
#2454 [12:36] <Aiken> I ported my MC server on my router but after portchecking it still says it's closed.
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#2456 [12:37] <SheerCold> then a white screen where the classic server would be
#2457 [12:37] <Xerati> Aiken, is the server running?
#2458 [12:37] <Aiken> Yep.
#2459 [12:37] <Livity> Aiken you have buffalo router?
#2460 [12:37] <Aiken> No.
#2461 [12:37] <Livity> k nvm then
#2462 [12:37] <Aiken> Tp-Link.
#2463 [12:37] <Aiken> I checked their website on how to portforward and followed intructions there.
#2464 [12:38] <Aiken> After port checking it says port timed out.
#2465 [12:38] <xales> Aiken: What port did you forward, and to what address?
#2466 [12:38] <SheerCold> Hey does anyone else have trouble on classic multiplayer
#2467 [12:38] <SheerCold> with windows 7
#2468 [12:38] <Aiken> Port 25565
#2469 [12:38] <Aiken> The default one.
#2470 [12:38] <xales> SheerCold: again, it's down. nobody can use it right now
#2471 [12:39] <Aiken> I tried changing the port and so but it doesn't seem to have workd either.
#2472 [12:39] <xales> Aiken: what address did you forward it to?
#2473 [12:39] <Aiken> I was porting it on my ip but if you mean what I put on my server_ip field I left it blank.
#2474 [12:40] <SheerCold> Well I meant before mc.net started being on/offish all the time.
#2475 [12:40] <xales> no, I mean what IP did you specify for the port forward
#2476 [12:40] <Aiken> Oh.
#2477 [12:40] <xales> SheerCold: ah. what was the problem you were experiencing?
#2478 [12:40] <SheerCold> Like i couldn't join yesterday.
#2479 [12:40] <Aiken> Static IP in my router.
#2480 [12:40] <SheerCold> well when i try to join a classic multiplayer server
#2481 [12:40] <Snaggo> i got "lost connection: disconnect.overflow" apparently.
#2482 [12:41] <SheerCold> it says "Switching applet" for a second
#2483 [12:41] <nevercast> sleep time!
#2484 [12:41] <SheerCold> then goes to a white screen
#2485 [12:41] <xales> Aiken: which is?
#2486 [12:41] <SheerCold> java closes itself when the whitescreen appears
#2487 [12:41] <Aiken> 192.168.1.10
#2488 [12:41] <Aiken> *100
#2489 [12:41] <Aiken> 192.168.1.100
#2490 [12:41] <xales> and that is the IP you set on your computer?
#2491 [12:41] <xales> ??> SheerCold win/reinst
#2492 [12:41] <VoxelHead> SheerCold: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2493 [12:41] <VoxelHead> SheerCold: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2494 [12:42] <Aiken> Yeah.
#2495 [12:42] <Aiken> That's the static IP I set.
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#2498 [12:43] <xales> Aiken: I assume you are here on the same connection that you set the port-forward on?
#2499 [12:43] <Aiken> Yes.
#2500 [12:44] <SheerCold> So that help was for classic multiplayer right
#2501 [12:44] <xales> SheerCold: yes
#2502 [12:44] <Aiken> I only have one connection in my house right now.
#2503 [12:44] <xales> Aiken: can you take a screenshot of the port forward rule you added, so I can double check it?
#2504 [12:44] <SheerCold> well it's still doing the same thing T_T
#2505 [12:44] <Aiken> Ok.
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#2507 [12:45] <xales> SheerCold: try in another browser
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#2509 [12:45] <SheerCold> Ok
#2510 [12:45] <Aiken> Maybe I could just copy paste the setting?
#2511 [12:45] <arensirb> string(20) "HTTP/1.1 302 Found
#2512 [12:45] <arensirb> that one is new
#2513 [12:46] <Aiken> 25565 192.168.1.100 ALL Enabled Modify Delete
#2514 [12:46] <arensirb> so not found == up
#2515 [12:46] <arensirb> lol
#2516 [12:46] <xales> Aiken: a screenshot would be better
#2517 [12:46] <arensirb> logical
#2518 [12:46] <SheerCold> Okay firefox does the same thing
#2519 [12:46] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2520 [12:46] <SheerCold> except it's a black screen
#2521 [12:46] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2522 [12:46] <xales> SheerCold: is it just multiplayer not working? or singleplayer too?
#2523 [12:47] <SheerCold> no, i can play all modes except multiplayer classic
#2524 [12:47] <xales> SheerCold: it might just be that it's down again - wait until it's up, and if it's still not working, come back here. someone else should be on who knows more about Classic
#2525 [12:47] <Aiken> Alright.
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#2530 [12:51] <poke722> #help
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#2532 [12:51] <Aiken> http://awesomescreenshot.com/01789libe
#2533 [12:51] <Aiken> Virtual servers by the way is port forwarding in TP Link routers.
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#2535 [12:52] <Quittix3> Is ubuntu good at running minecraft?
#2536 [12:52] <arensirb> omg, got in, then it went back down
#2537 [12:52] <xales> Aiken: can you take a screenshot of the "status" page?
#2538 [12:52] <xales> Quittix3: It can run it, yes
#2539 [12:53] <Aiken> Status?
#2540 [12:53] <Quittix3> somehow im using like a 5 year old ubuntu live cd and everything works
#2541 [12:53] <xales> Aiken: on the top left, "Status"
#2542 [12:53] <Aiken> Oh.
#2543 [12:53] <Quittix3> im gonna reinstall windows because i had a bad install of it, it was very slow
#2544 [12:53] <Aiken> That's router info.
#2545 [12:54] <xales> Aiken: yeah
#2546 [12:54] <xales> can you screenshot it?
#2547 [12:54] <Aiken> About my Mac adress and stuff.
#2548 [12:54] <Aiken> Alright
#2549 [12:54] <Quittix3> im very confused, some people say windows 7 needs atleast 2gb of ram to work
#2550 [12:54] <xales> Quittix3: it does
#2551 [12:54] <xales> it needs even more if you have any hope of playing Minecraft without massive lag
#2552 [12:54] <Quittix3> i only have 1.5gb of ram and it worked just fine with other games
#2553 [12:55] <qable> blargh, any updates on the 'error code: 503'?
#2554 [12:55] <xales> qable: just wait for them to fix it
#2555 [12:55] <Quittix3> what im confused about is that i only have 1.5gb of ram
#2556 [12:55] <Quittix3> and people say i need more ram, when im playign im only using half my ram
#2557 [12:55] <xales> Quittix3: what "other games"?
#2558 [12:55] <Aiken> http://awesomescreenshot.com/0ae89lo13
#2559 [12:55] <Quittix3> umm... every game i have
#2560 [12:56] <Quittix3> their all games that require way more than minecraft
#2561 [12:56] <xales> ?? retro
#2562 [12:56] <VoxelHead> retro: Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#2563 [12:56] <VoxelHead> retro: Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#2564 [12:56] <Quittix3> i know and i have 1.5gb so i have enough
#2565 [12:56] <Quittix3> and people say i dont...
#2566 [12:56] <xales> Aiken: can you scroll down to the "WAN" section and screenshot that?
#2567 [12:57] <Aiken> Alright
#2568 [12:57] <Quittix3> someones like well it takes 1gb of ram, and you have 1.5gb so yea.. thats not enough
#2569 [12:57] <xales> Quittix3: You technically don't. It's just paging, which means your harddisk will fail very quickly
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#2572 [12:57] <TheNytangel> how many pieces of coal does it take to melt 10 pieces of iron ore?
#2573 [12:57] <Quittix3> but its not paging
#2574 [12:57] <TheNytangel> 1 or 2
#2575 [12:57] <Quittix3> im only using half my ram when i play minecraft
#2576 [12:57] <xales> Quittix3: Windows 7 by itself needs almost 1GB
#2577 [12:58] <xales> Quittix3: and it is paging.
#2578 [12:58] <xales> TheNytangel: 2
#2579 [12:58] <Quittix3> that would be very stypid of my computer to page when it doesnt need to
#2580 [12:58] <Quittix3> it does?...
#2581 [12:58] <xales> Quittix3: It's Windows. It will be paging.
#2582 [12:58] <xales> Windows is always paging. Because it is a horrible OS
#2583 [12:58] <Quittix3> i turned paging off once and it was only taking 512mb of ram
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#2585 [12:58] <xales> you should not turn paging off...that's really bad <.<
#2586 [12:58] <Quittix3> when i turned antivirus and everything off like that it was only using 300gb
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#2589 [12:59] <xales> Quittix3: ..whatever. I don't really care. if it works, it works
#2590 [12:59] <Quittix3> i turned off paging and started my computer with just 512mb of ram and i tried to play the game runescape and it worked
#2591 [12:59] <Quittix3> but thats just the thing.. it doesnt work
#2592 [13:00] <Quittix3> somehow im having a weird problem with my computer being slow
#2593 [13:00] <xales> well, I wonder if it might be because you are using all your RAM
#2594 [13:00] <xales> <.<
#2595 [13:00] <Quittix3> my computer is limiting the uses of runescape and minecraft (java games)
#2596 [13:01] <xales> it doesn't matter
#2597 [13:01] <Quittix3> im not using all my ram though..
#2598 [13:01] <xales> 1.5GB is barely enough to run just Windows 7
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#2600 [13:01] <Quittix3> what??
#2601 [13:01] <Quittix3> thats what im confused about :/
#2602 [13:01] <xales> Quittix3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7#Hardware_requirements
#2603 [13:02] <Quittix3> if you turn off paging does windows 7 only have your physical ram to work with and thats all?
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#2605 [13:02] <xales> Quittix3: it depends on if you actually turned paging off
#2606 [13:03] <Quittix3> yes, turned it off 100%
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#2608 [13:03] <Quittix3> none at all
#2609 [13:03] <arensirb> ok, i got a funny question
#2610 [13:03] <Quittix3> i can get windows 7 down to 400mb with out paging
#2611 [13:03] <xales> well, regardless; your computer running slow because you insist at running it below the minimum requirements, an in a stupid way (no virtual memory) is outside the scope of this channel
#2612 [13:03] <arensirb> My client checks www.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp
#2613 [13:04] <sardo97> Idk.
#2614 [13:04] <arensirb> but when thats up, all it does is redirect to http://50.16.200.224/game/joinserver.jsp?
#2615 [13:04] <arensirb> which IS upå
#2616 [13:04] <arensirb> : p
#2617 [13:04] <Quittix3> and when im but im not running it below minimum requirements, it takes 1gb and i have 1.5gb
#2618 [13:04] <arensirb> ok girls, bbl, testing ubuntu
#2619 [13:05] <Quittix3> thats what im confused about... i have 1500mb it takes 1000mb why do people say i dont have enough?
#2620 [13:05] <xales> Quittix3: okay...? so you are able to run windows, but you will not be able to play something like Minecraft
#2621 [13:05] <xales> and again, 1GB is a minimum, not reccomended requirement
#2622 [13:05] <Quittix3> you know the game boarderlands?
#2623 [13:05] <xales> I don't really care
#2624 [13:05] <Quittix3> or oblivion?
#2625 [13:06] <Quittix3> i can run those
#2626 [13:06] <xales> if you want help with your computer being slow, because of the ass-backwards way you are running it, ask elsewhere.
#2627 [13:06] <xales> this is not general tech support
#2628 [13:06] <arensirb> 1.5GB is REALLY little in 2011 :|
#2629 [13:06] <arensirb> I didnt know there existed computers with that little anymore
#2630 [13:06] <Quittix3> well i guess im gonna go install windows 7
#2631 [13:06] <arensirb> do that
#2632 [13:06] <Xerati> 1.5gb?
#2633 [13:06] <Xerati> i saw someone yesterday with 1/3rd that
#2634 [13:06] <arensirb> get another 6GB of ram while your at it
#2635 [13:07] <arensirb> minimum another 1.5
#2636 [13:07] <Quittix3> but what i dont understand is...
#2637 [13:07] <sardo97> Did you guys hear about that in Austraila 'Mortal Kombat 9' has been banned...
#2638 [13:07] <Quittix3> a month ago i was playing minecraft just fine on this computer
#2639 [13:07] <Quittix3> single player on alpha was fast
#2640 [13:07] <qable> Quittix3: Minecraft barely eats any memory, basically you just don't know how to handle a computer, having too much processes in the background, etc...
#2641 [13:07] <qable> you might want to consider cleaning it up
#2642 [13:08] <Quittix3> then something went wrong, my java windows or graphics drivers or something
#2643 [13:08] <sardo97> Do you have smooth lighting? That takes alot of gpu For me at least.
#2644 [13:08] <xales> qable: I sure hope you are joking about that.
#2645 [13:08] <Xerati> erm, minecraft takes a ton of memory lol
#2646 [13:08] <xales> ^
#2647 [13:08] <Quittix3> i do know how to handle a computer, i built the computer im using now my self
#2648 [13:08] <qable> it surely ain't eating more than 1.5GB
#2649 [13:08] <Xerati> when, in the 90's?
#2650 [13:08] <Xerati> well, yeah, true
#2651 [13:08] <Xerati> probably like 600-900mb
#2652 [13:08] <qable> mine's on about ~300MB at max
#2653 [13:08] <xales> qable: it allocates 1GB at startup, by default
#2654 [13:08] <Xerati> but +the OS and other things?
#2655 [13:08] <xales> it won't actually use it, but it has it reserved
#2656 [13:09] <d0MiN077> det borde fan var förbjudet att ta betalt för ett spel som inte är klart än
#2657 [13:09] <Xerati> da
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#2659 [13:09] <Quittix3> i have a 1 year old graphics card in my 10 year old computer
#2660 [13:09] <sardo97> I'v got 4gbs and i have to have minecraft on normal distance for it to not lag...
#2661 [13:09] <Xerati> thats video
#2662 [13:09] <Quittix3> what really gets me is that my brother had this computer:
#2663 [13:10] <Quittix3> 2.8ghz single core processor, 1gb of ddr1 ram, 80gb hard drive, 512mb graphics card
#2664 [13:10] <Quittix3> and he had windows 7 and minecraft was running just fine
#2665 [13:10] <Xerati> i call bs
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#2667 [13:10] <sardo97> Um... Might want a better computer
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#2669 [13:10] <sardo97> Yout not running win 7
#2670 [13:10] <Quittix3> our computers were identical except my processor is faster and i had more ram
#2671 [13:11] <Xerati> he did not have win 7 on 1gb ram AND run minecraft even halfway decently
#2672 [13:11] <sardo97> win 7 takes 1gig of ram... any other program wont have anyram to use
#2673 [13:11] <Quittix3> he did, it was fast
#2674 [13:11] <Quittix3> hes a computer expert
#2675 [13:11] <Xerati> so am i
#2676 [13:11] <Xerati> and that's why i'm calling bullshit
#2677 [13:11] <xales> yeah, no
#2678 [13:11] <Quittix3> he grew up with older computers and can make them fly
#2679 [13:11] <xales> that's not possible
#2680 [13:11] <xales> Quittix3, drop it.
#2681 [13:12] <Xerati> he can make them fly, by upgrading them
#2682 [13:12] <Xerati> xales
#2683 [13:12] <Xerati> is shadow-craft just a server you like playing on?
#2684 [13:12] <Quittix3> but i know it shouldnt be possible he is bull shit, thats what i dont understand i wish i could do wat he did :o
#2685 [13:12] <qable> sardo97: you shouldn't say things you don't *really* know
#2686 [13:12] <qable> it is surely more than possible to run w7 on a computer with 1gb
#2687 [13:12] <qable> ram
#2688 [13:13] <Xerati> qable, when talking about minecraft though, it would not run on win7 on 1gb ram
#2689 [13:13] <sardo97> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVIZtLK1U50
#2690 [13:13] <Xerati> if it did run, it would not be remotely 'good' at all
#2691 [13:13] <Xerati> you would turn around ingame, and it would lag
#2692 [13:13] <qable> it runs on my laptop with 1gb ram, that actually, you won't expect any über performance though, obviously logical
#2693 [13:14] <Quittix3> would a 512mb graphics card help our computers run windows 7?
#2694 [13:14] <qable> 512mb graphic card says nothing
#2695 [13:14] <jasper> http://awesomescreenshot.com/05c89mke8 Xales
#2696 [13:14] <xales> Quittix3: this is not general tech support. please ask elsewhere, as I have already said
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#2698 [13:14] <Quittix3> ok bye
#2699 [13:14] <Xerati> outdated is an understatement
#2700 [13:14] <xales> jasper: you masked the stuff that was actually important ._.
#2701 [13:14] * Xerati rages at xales
#2701 [13:15] <xales> none of that stuff is anything private or even secret
#2702 [13:15] <Xerati> but they might get his ip and haxor him!
#2703 [13:15] <TheNytangel> !server
#2704 [13:15] <jasper> Those were Mac adresses?
#2705 [13:15] <jasper> :/
#2706 [13:15] <Xerati> so?
#2707 [13:16] <xales> jasper: one of them was. even so, a MAC address means nothing
#2708 [13:16] <Xerati> the only thing yuo need to mask is user/pass
#2709 [13:16] <jasper> Oh lol I was always told by my comp teacher to mask that.
#2710 [13:16] <xales> your computer teacher was wrong then <.<
#2711 [13:16] <Xerati> mask as in network mask? <_<
#2712 [13:16] <Xerati> oh, omg
#2713 [13:16] <Xerati> mac mask
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#2715 [13:17] <Xerati> lololol
#2716 [13:17] <xales> a MAC address is just a hardware identifier
#2717 [13:17] <SevFTW> does anyone know if the website is back up?
#2718 [13:17] <SheerCold> yes and no
#2719 [13:17] <Xerati> which one?
#2720 [13:17] <Xerati> login was up
#2721 [13:17] <Xerati> but classic is down
#2722 [13:17] <SheerCold> really it's been going on and off
#2723 [13:17] <jasper> Oh lol.
#2724 [13:17] <jasper> I see thanks for the info.
#2725 [13:17] <SheerCold> oh classic is down?
#2726 [13:17] <SevFTW> I mean when one tries to connect to a server via the beta client, it gives an error
#2727 [13:17] <Xerati> was
#2728 [13:18] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2729 [13:18] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2730 [13:18] <Xerati> what's the error?
#2731 [13:18] <Xerati> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#2732 [13:18] <GreyBot> Xerati: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2733 [13:18] <SevFTW> I can't remember...
#2734 [13:18] <SevFTW> it's so long it goes off the window
#2735 [13:18] <SevFTW> let me see if I can get it again...
#2736 [13:18] <Xerati> 503 exception?
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#2738 [13:19] <kermit> Hi, what's wrong with minecraft?
#2739 [13:19] <SevFTW> so many things
#2740 [13:19] <Xerati> site is haviing trouble
#2741 [13:19] <SevFTW> Notch and the crew just took off for GDC and all hell breaks loose
#2742 [13:19] <Xerati> did mollstam go?
#2743 [13:20] <xales> it's not like they can't fix it from SF
#2744 [13:20] <xales> ._.
#2745 [13:20] <SevFTW> I don't know :P Just saw it on notch's twitter
#2746 [13:20] <SevFTW> The tweet was from 8 hours ago
#2747 [13:21] <jasper> Maybe this is ISP blocking the port?
#2748 [13:21] <SevFTW> from germany to Canada (I fly that sometimes) it's 8 hours...
#2749 [13:21] <xales> jasper: it's possible, but it could also be double NAT =/
#2750 [13:21] <Xerati> jasper, that'd be unlikely
#2751 [13:21] <SevFTW> so they should be about 8.5-9
#2752 [13:21] <Xerati> who's your isp?
#2753 [13:21] <xales> which is what i needed the numbers for
#2754 [13:21] <xales> so I could find out if it was double NAT
#2755 [13:21] <SevFTW> mine?
#2756 [13:21] <xales> =/
#2757 [13:21] <jasper> Double NAT?
#2758 [13:21] <xales> jasper: yes
#2759 [13:21] <Xerati> jasper, if your ISP uses natting on their network, you're screwed
#2760 [13:22] <Xerati> however if you have your own ip, and the only nat is via your router, then you should be ok
#2761 [13:22] <xales> Xerati: Comcast has starting doing it for residental connections O_o
#2762 [13:22] <Xerati> once you fix the conf
#2763 [13:22] <Xerati> not for mine :O
#2764 [13:22] <SevFTW> Xerati, my server window keeps telling me I'm already running the server on that port -_-
#2765 [13:22] <Xerati> SevFTW, so shutdown the other one
#2766 [13:22] <Xerati> lol
#2767 [13:22] <SevFTW> There is none... lol
#2768 [13:22] <xales> Xerati: started. somewhere in the southwest someone was on a Comcast connection behing a 172.16 address
#2769 [13:22] <Xerati> either that, or you have misconfig'd the properties
#2770 [13:22] <SevFTW> it happened yesterday
#2771 [13:23] <xales> behind*
#2772 [13:23] <Xerati> xales, .16 or .168?
#2773 [13:23] <SevFTW> but now I can't remember how I did it...
#2774 [13:23] <xales> Xerati: .16
#2775 [13:23] <SevFTW> one second
#2776 [13:23] <Xerati> that's not necesarily natted
#2777 [13:23] <Xerati> O_o
#2778 [13:23] <xales> 172.16/12 is private address space
#2779 [13:23] <xales> and it was natted
#2780 [13:23] <xales> he could get on the gateway login page
#2781 [13:23] <xales> but not actually login
#2782 [13:24] <Xerati> i think there's something else going on there <_<
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#2785 [13:24] <Tehcmc> hello?
#2786 [13:24] <xales> hi
#2787 [13:25] <Tehcmc> when will the servers be back up? mines been down for ages
#2788 [13:25] <jasper> So what should I look for now?
#2789 [13:25] <Xerati> when the site stops breaking
#2790 [13:25] <xales> jasper: can you just screenshot the WAN section and not mask it? =/
#2791 [13:25] <Xerati> jasper, repost the screenshot without blocking anything but the user/pass
#2792 [13:26] <Tehcmc> My mc kept crashing so i had to delete and reinstall BUT i cant now because site is down :[
#2793 [13:26] <Xerati> lol
#2794 [13:26] <Xerati> are you using the latest client?
#2795 [13:26] <Tehcmc> 1.3.0.1
#2796 [13:26] <Xerati> the client
#2797 [13:26] <Xerati> launcher*
#2798 [13:26] <Xerati> sorry
#2799 [13:27] <jasper> Oh lol.
#2800 [13:27] <jasper> I think I actually masked the Wan IP client
#2801 [13:27] <Xerati> and the wan ip
#2802 [13:27] <jasper> Also my Wan IP is said to be dynamic? :/
#2803 [13:27] <Xerati> you masked everything you didn't need to mask
#2804 [13:27] <Xerati> it might be, that's depending on your ISP
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#2806 [13:27] <xales> jasper: it almost always is, with residential connections
#2807 [13:27] <Tehcmc> Now i have to use a crappy pirate that is improvised till i get 1.3 back
#2808 [13:27] <Xerati> and by dynamic, that just means it MAY change
#2809 [13:28] <arensirb> So, does anyone have the minecraft jar lying around? The one for linux
#2810 [13:28] <arensirb> Cant seem to get onto the website
#2811 [13:28] <Xerati> arensirb ,not allowed to distribute that
#2812 [13:28] <Tehcmc> its down
#2813 [13:28] <arensirb> ph?
#2814 [13:28] <arensirb> whats down?
#2815 [13:28] <Xerati> the site
#2816 [13:28] <jasper> http://awesomescreenshot.com/08689n7e4
#2817 [13:28] <Xerati> he knows it's down
#2818 [13:28] <arensirb> your saying I cant install it because its down? Stop telling me shit I know!
#2819 [13:28] <Tehcmc> ITS UP :D
#2820 [13:28] <arensirb> YEY
#2821 [13:28] <SevFTW> what is?
#2822 [13:29] <arensirb> So much for idiots in chan
#2823 [13:29] <Xerati> the site
#2824 [13:29] <arensirb> (Yes, Xerati's the one)
#2825 [13:29] <Xerati> !isdown minecraft.net
#2826 [13:29] <GreyBot> Xerati: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2827 [13:29] <Xerati> i'm an idiot?
#2828 [13:29] <Xerati> how so?
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#2830 [13:29] <arensirb> Well you did answer me kinda idiotic imo
#2831 [13:29] <SheerCold> yep still getting white screen
#2832 [13:29] <SheerCold> java console says
#2833 [13:29] <SevFTW> Greybot: It's up, then it's down.
#2834 [13:29] <Xerati> you asked an idiotic question
#2835 [13:29] <arensirb> first I mention the site is down, then you tell me the site is down
#2836 [13:29] <arensirb> No I didnt
#2837 [13:29] <Xerati> and i simply answered
#2838 [13:29] <SheerCold> Unknown Windows version: Windows 7
#2839 [13:29] <SevFTW> working now though
#2840 [13:29] <Xerati> i didn't tell you the site was down
#2841 [13:29] <SevFTW> :D
#2842 [13:29] <Xerati> you asked "what's down"
#2843 [13:29] <arensirb> I asked someone to put out a version I could dl
#2844 [13:29] <Xerati> so i answered
#2845 [13:30] <SheerCold> oh it works now
#2846 [13:30] <SheerCold> huh
#2847 [13:30] <jasper> http://awesomescreenshot.com/08689n7e4 <Unmasked one
#2848 [13:30] <Xerati> Tehcmc is the one that was trying to tell you the site was down
#2849 [13:30] <Xerati> not me
#2850 [13:30] <xales> jasper: yeah, that's double NAT
#2851 [13:30] <Xerati> and i pointed out that YOU already knew that
#2852 [13:30] <xales> jasper: can you log in to 192.168.2.1?
#2853 [13:30] <Xerati> so how does that make me an idiot
#2854 [13:30] <arensirb> NAT sucks
#2855 [13:30] <arensirb> <Xerati> arensirb ,not allowed to distribute that
#2856 [13:31] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti
#2857 [13:31] <arensirb> oh, my bad
#2858 [13:31] <TheNytangel> is you there?
#2859 [13:31] <Xerati> yes, you wanted an alternate link to the .jar
#2860 [13:31] <arensirb> Read a little wrong up there
#2861 [13:31] <Xerati> that's against the rules
#2862 [13:31] <arensirb> yes
#2863 [13:31] <SevFTW> Guys, I'll be right back I'm gonna reboot my computer to see if that helps the ports...
#2864 [13:31] <arensirb> Why? thats lame
#2865 [13:31] <arensirb> pardon
#2866 [13:31] <arensirb> fracking lame
#2867 [13:31] <xales> arensirb: http://minecraft.net/copyright.jsp
#2868 [13:31] <Xerati> because of potentially altering it
#2869 [13:31] <Xerati> :P
#2870 [13:31] <xales> has an explanation
#2871 [13:31] <xales> though, it's probably down :P
#2872 [13:31] <Xerati> xD
#2873 [13:32] <Xerati> jasper has a network of routers in his home
#2874 [13:32] <jasper> I can't login to that.
#2875 [13:32] <xales> jasper: that's what I thought =/
#2876 [13:32] <Xerati> jasper, who is your ISP?
#2877 [13:32] <jasper> PLDT.
#2878 [13:33] <Razorsword> Minecraft seems to be UP again
#2879 [13:33] <xales> jasper: your ISP is double NATting to prevent you from hosting servers, most likely.
#2880 [13:33] <Xerati> it goes up and down
#2881 [13:33] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti
#2882 [13:33] <xales> =/
#2883 [13:33] <Xerati> jasper, are you in the phillipines?
#2884 [13:33] <Xerati> err, philippines?
#2885 [13:33] <jasper> Yep
#2886 [13:34] <Xerati> yikes
#2887 [13:34] <Xerati> dsl
#2888 [13:34] <Xerati> up to 384k
#2889 [13:34] * Xerati cries
#2889 [13:34] <jasper> What?
#2890 [13:35] <Xerati> nothing
#2891 [13:35] <jasper> Yeah internet connection here isn't so good.
#2892 [13:35] <jasper> Expensive as hell aswell.
#2893 [13:35] <Xerati> actually you can get up to 3mbps
#2894 [13:35] <Xerati> not too shabby
#2895 [13:35] <xales> even if you got part the ISP's NAT, your connection probably couldn't support more than one or two clients without lag
#2896 [13:35] <xales> past*
#2897 [13:35] <jasper> I am at the 1mbps plan :/
#2898 [13:35] <Xerati> the xperience 999 plan
#2899 [13:35] <Xerati> lol
#2900 [13:35] <xales> it's the upload speed that counts, usually =/
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#2902 [13:36] <jasper> Actually my apartment might have a router connecting all the other routers :/
#2903 [13:36] <jasper> I asked them,they said they weren't blocking any ports and that they'll ask PLDT when they come by.
#2904 [13:36] <xales> jasper: yeah, that looks to be the case
#2905 [13:37] <xales> if you asked them to forward 25565 incoming to your router, then it should work
#2906 [13:37] <jasper> Mhmm.
#2907 [13:37] <jasper> You think they'll agree?
#2908 [13:37] <xales> no idea
#2909 [13:37] <jasper> I'll go ask tommorow.
#2910 [13:37] <jasper> Hope they do.
#2911 [13:37] <Xerati> well, no reason not too
#2912 [13:37] <jasper> If not what do?
#2913 [13:38] <Xerati> unless someone else is hosting minecraft there
#2914 [13:38] <Xerati> xD
#2915 [13:38] <xales> you could use something like hamachi, but those aren't going to work for much longer
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#2917 [13:38] <Xerati> ewww
#2918 [13:38] <xales> and still requires anyone playing on the server to be using hamachi as well
#2919 [13:38] <xales> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2920 [13:38] <arensirb> Xerati, FYI
#2921 [13:38] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#2922 [13:38] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#2923 [13:38] <arensirb> I was NOT asking for the whole thing
#2924 [13:38] <arensirb> but the updater
#2925 [13:38] <Xerati> just the launcher?
#2926 [13:38] <arensirb> yep
#2927 [13:38] <arensirb> But got it now
#2928 [13:39] <Xerati> i could have linked you that
#2929 [13:39] <Xerati> lol
#2930 [13:39] <jasper> So I should beg and hope it works.
#2931 [13:39] <arensirb> Well it was what I asked fore
#2932 [13:39] <arensirb> before
#2933 [13:39] <Xerati> don't specify .jar :P
#2934 [13:39] <jasper> Or get Globe Tattoo.
#2935 [13:39] <SevFTW> I'm back, my server is working after a computer reboot :D
#2936 [13:39] <jasper> Either way..
#2937 [13:39] <Xerati> wait, thought you wanted for linux?
#2938 [13:39] <Xerati> SevFTW, that's a lie and you know it
#2939 [13:39] <Xerati> I mean, nice!
#2940 [13:39] <SevFTW> ;)
#2941 [13:39] <jasper> Thanks a lot guys.
#2942 [13:39] <arensirb> Xerati, im on linux
#2943 [13:40] <arensirb> i MUST have the jar
#2944 [13:40] <jasper> I got to sleep now.
#2945 [13:40] <arensirb> the launcher jar
#2946 [13:40] <Xerati> arensirb, yeah
#2947 [13:40] <jasper> Bye
#2948 [13:40] <Xerati> didn't evne know there was a launcher jar
#2949 [13:40] <arensirb> :D
#2950 [13:40] <Xerati> the 'launcher' is windows only afaik
#2951 [13:40] <arensirb> nope
#2952 [13:40] <arensirb> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2953 [13:40] <Xerati> the actually launcher :P
#2954 [13:40] <arensirb> Linux / Other:
#2955 [13:40] <arensirb> Download Minecraft.jar, an executable jar file. It might work as-is.
#2956 [13:40] <Xerati> yeah
#2957 [13:40] <Xerati> that's not a launcher
#2958 [13:40] <Xerati> that's the actual jar
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#2960 [13:41] <SevFTW> YEAH! the site's back up!
#2961 [13:41] <Xerati> in windows ,there's a launcher for it
#2962 [13:41] <arensirb> xerati, that is the launcher
#2963 [13:41] <Xerati> ugh
#2964 [13:41] <Xerati> that's the actual application
#2965 [13:41] <arensirb> The launcher downloads the game files
#2966 [13:41] <Xerati> mm
#2967 [13:41] <Xerati> kk
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#2969 [13:41] <mib_ohf2f9> Anyone know a good server that doesn't require a whitelist, or atleast one that could update soon?
#2970 [13:41] <arensirb> piece of crap shit dtill doesnt work
#2971 [13:41] <arensirb> lol
#2972 [13:41] <arensirb> mib_ohf2f9, Where you from?
#2973 [13:41] <Blood_display> Hey pplz.
#2974 [13:41] <mib_ohf2f9> United States
#2975 [13:41] <xales> mib_ohf2f9: http://mcserverlist.net/
#2976 [13:42] <Blood_display> !check Tyteen4a03
#2977 [13:42] <arensirb> then no : p
#2978 [13:42] <Blood_display> !Check Notch
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#2980 [13:42] <arensirb> haha
#2981 [13:42] <Xerati> lolol
#2982 [13:42] <TheNytangel> !check 69.65.43.33:27365
#2983 [13:42] * Xerati griefs
#2983 [13:42] <Blood_display> TheNyAngel
#2984 [13:42] <xales> ?? irc/bots
#2985 [13:42] <VoxelHead> irc/bots: The bots in this channel are meant to be used for assisting users in need of help
#2986 [13:42] <VoxelHead> irc/bots: Abuse of the bots will have you removed from the channel. If you aren't using the bot for it's intended purpose, you ARE abusing it
#2987 [13:42] <mib_ohf2f9> Mcserverlist.net has far to many old servers that are gone now, and I don't have the time to go through it all.
#2988 [13:42] <Blood_display> You made your own SMP?
#2989 [13:42] <Xerati> not hard
#2990 [13:43] <xales> mib_ohf2f9: try http://minestatus.net/
#2991 [13:43] <TheNytangel> i have 2 servers..
#2992 [13:43] <Xerati> !check 98.203.255.46
#2993 [13:43] <Blood_display> TheNytangel: Can I come on one of it?
#2994 [13:43] <TheNytangel> hold on
#2995 [13:43] <TheNytangel> im trying to get one fixed
#2996 [13:43] <Blood_display> Okay.
#2997 [13:43] <Blood_display> Is it a Flatgrass?
#2998 [13:43] <TheNytangel> no
#2999 [13:43] <Blood_display> Or a Moutain range/ Snowy?
#3000 [13:43] <TheNytangel> its random
#3001 [13:43] <TheNytangel> sort of
#3002 [13:44] <Xerati> it's a SMP map
#3003 [13:44] <Blood_display> Ah.
#3004 [13:44] <Blood_display> So it
#3005 [13:44] <Blood_display> random
#3006 [13:44] <Xerati> it has everything
#3007 [13:44] <Blood_display> I see.
#3008 [13:44] <Blood_display> I gotta go in 1 30minutes so hurry.
#3009 [13:44] <Blood_display> I don't got all day ;(
#3010 [13:44] <Jackson413> im using notepad++ for bukkit related stuff. and i want it to add an indent after every ":" and remove the ":"
#3011 [13:44] <TheNytangel> try connect:
#3012 [13:44] <TheNytangel> 69.65.43.33:27365
#3013 [13:45] <Jackson413> anyone?
#3014 [13:45] <TheNytangel> i use notepad++ for coding
#3015 [13:46] <Xerati> Jackson413
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#3017 [13:46] <Jackson413> Xerati: yes?
#3018 [13:46] <Xerati> cntrl+h
#3019 [13:46] <Jackson413> ok
#3020 [13:46] <Xerati> in the bottom left, make sure the second option is selected
#3021 [13:46] <Xerati> put : in the first one, and \t in the next one
#3022 [13:46] <Xerati> wait, do you want tabs or spaces?
#3023 [13:47] <CostlyCoincidence> Anyone here an expert on hosting a Beta multiplayer server? ;D
#3024 [13:47] <Jackson413> i want it to go to the next line
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#3026 [13:47] <Jackson413> like move it down
#3027 [13:47] <Blood_display> Okay enter the :27365 too?
#3028 [13:47] <Blood_display> Nope doesn't work.
#3029 [13:47] <Blood_display> TheNytangel- Try giving me the URL again
#3030 [13:47] <Blood_display> <html><body><center><h1>Welcome to my Test HTML Site!</h1>
#3031 [13:47] <Blood_display> Woosp, wrong place to put that :/
#3032 [13:47] <Xerati> a new line or an indent?
#3033 [13:47] <TheNytangel> Blood_display
#3034 [13:47] <TheNytangel> 69.65.43.33:27365
#3035 [13:47] <TheNytangel> yes
#3036 [13:47] <Xerati> Blood_display, you're a laggy mofo
#3037 [13:47] <TheNytangel> port too
#3038 [13:47] <Jackson413> Xerati: new line
#3039 [13:47] <Xerati> Jackson413, ok
#3040 [13:47] <Xerati> then replace : with \n
#3041 [13:48] <Jackson413> any way for it to stop changing then?
#3042 [13:48] <Xerati> might be \r\n
#3043 [13:48] <Xerati> uhhh, what?
#3044 [13:48] <CostlyCoincidence> 24.235.134.179:25565
#3045 [13:48] <CostlyCoincidence> Can someone please try to connect to my server?
#3046 [13:48] <Jackson413> like everytime i accidently select something it adds it to the "find what"
#3047 [13:48] <CostlyCoincidence> beta multiplayer
#3048 [13:48] <Jackson413> and id rather that not change
#3049 [13:48] <Xerati> huh? you're not making sense
#3050 [13:49] <Blood_display> CostlyCoincidence- I can host
#3051 [13:49] <Blood_display> Xerati: No, i'm not.
#3052 [13:49] <Blood_display> I'm coming on.
#3053 [13:49] <xales> wow
#3054 [13:49] <xales> you are really laggy, haha
#3055 [13:49] <Xerati> lol
#3056 [13:49] <Jackson413> like if i select something, it automatically puts it in "Find what" and then i have to change it
#3057 [13:49] <Xerati> close the replace window?
#3058 [13:50] <Jackson413> no
#3059 [13:50] <Xerati> i have no idea what you're talking about
#3060 [13:50] <Xerati> OH
#3061 [13:50] <Xerati> yeah
#3062 [13:50] <Jackson413> can i avoid that?
#3063 [13:50] <Xerati> if you have something highlighted, and you open the find/replace window, it'll always be there
#3064 [13:50] <Xerati> no
#3065 [13:50] <Xerati> just backspace it out
#3066 [13:50] <Jackson413> darn ok
#3067 [13:50] <Xerati> or, don't have something highlighted
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#3069 [13:51] <Draglems1> What seed should i use to give me alot of dungeons? I've been using MCedit to find some dungeons, but in 4/5 Seeds i've tried, I can hardly find any.
#3070 [13:51] <Jackson413> the /n doesnt work
#3071 [13:51] <Xerati> \n
#3072 [13:51] <Xerati> and you need the option below selected
#3073 [13:51] <Xerati> the 'extended' option
#3074 [13:51] <Jackson413> search mode is set to extended
#3075 [13:52] <Draglems1> Search mode?
#3076 [13:52] <Xerati> search for :
#3077 [13:52] <Xerati> replace with \n
#3078 [13:52] <Jackson413> what does the search mode need to be set to normal,extended,or regular expression
#3079 [13:52] <Xerati> extended
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#3081 [13:53] <Jackson413> doesnt work
#3082 [13:53] <Jackson413> the /n is in replace with
#3083 [13:54] <Jackson413> nada
#3084 [13:54] <Jackson413> brb
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#3086 [13:54] <dralien> Hello!, im having problems with uploading a new minecraft skin
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#3088 [13:54] <dralien> i keep getting S3 errors.
#3089 [13:54] <Xerati> Jackson413, you aren't trying to replace /n
#3090 [13:54] <dralien> ive tried manually uploading too but nothing happens.
#3091 [13:55] <Jackson413> xerati im trying to replace : with /n
#3092 [13:55] <Xerati> what's the error?
#3093 [13:55] <Xerati> Jackson413
#3094 [13:55] <Xerati> \n
#3095 [13:55] <Xerati> not /n
#3096 [13:55] <Xerati> they are DIFFERENT
#3097 [13:55] <Jackson413> ohhhh
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#3101 [13:55] <Xerati> \n = newline
#3102 [13:55] <Xerati> \r = carriage return
#3103 [13:55] <Xerati> \t = tab
#3104 [13:55] <Xerati> you MAY want to replace : with \r\n
#3105 [13:55] <Xerati> depends on the file
#3106 [13:56] <Xerati> Jackson413, does it say DOS/WIN in the bottom right area?
#3107 [13:56] <Shockwave12> how do you check what e-mail you have on an account? when i go to recover it sends and e-mail of a compeltely different account that i made before i purchased the game
#3108 [13:57] <xales> Shockwave12: I don't think you can
#3109 [13:57] <Jackson413> got it
#3110 [13:57] <Jackson413> thx :D
#3111 [13:57] <Xerati> ^^
#3112 [13:58] <Shockwave12> whats a email i can send a message to for help?
#3113 [13:58] <Xerati> something i can't remember @mojang.com
#3114 [13:58] <Xerati> probably support
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#3116 [13:59] <Kyll> Hi
#3117 [13:59] <Xerati> hello
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#3120 [14:00] <Jackson413> 'nother pro
#3121 [14:00] <Jackson413> prob
#3122 [14:00] <xales> Shockwave12: payment@mojang.com
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#3124 [14:00] <Jackson413> it only replaces like 2 of them and ignores some ":"'s
#3125 [14:00] <Jackson413> it only replaces like 2 of them and ignores some :'s
#3126 [14:00] <SheerCold> okay i got a java console dump from the one time i managed to get on classic multiplayer
#3127 [14:00] <Xerati> did you have a selection highlighted?
#3128 [14:01] <Xerati> click somewhere, and then do the replace again
#3129 [14:01] <Jackson413> i tried with both
#3130 [14:01] <Jackson413> nada
#3131 [14:01] <xales> SheerCold: http://pastebin.com/ for that
#3132 [14:01] <Xerati> don't highlight anything or it only does it in the highlight
#3133 [14:01] <Jackson413> oh ok
#3134 [14:02] <Jackson413> brb
#3135 [14:02] <Jackson413> got it
#3136 [14:02] <SheerCold> Okay here is the java console from the one time i got on classic multiplayer
#3137 [14:02] <SheerCold> http://pastebin.com/K0qp2cm0
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#3139 [14:03] <xales> SheerCold: that sounds like a problem with the server you were playing on
#3140 [14:03] <SheerCold> well that was the only time i got on the server ironically
#3141 [14:03] <Kyll> Let's go: Why do I get a "Connection refused" when I connect to a local server?
#3142 [14:03] <darkspir> can anyone tell me if grass will spread to a block with a torch on it?
#3143 [14:04] <Coll> if there is grass next to it
#3144 [14:04] <SheerCold> right now it just opens up the console and goes and closes after "Using Default windows plugin..."
#3145 [14:04] <Coll> and said block is a dirt block
#3146 [14:05] <darkspir> okay, thanks coll.
#3147 [14:05] <Xerati> darkspir, yes, it will spread under the torch
#3148 [14:05] <Xerati> it won't spread under certain other things though
#3149 [14:05] <Xerati> maybe
#3150 [14:05] <Xerati> i can't remember now
#3151 [14:06] <SheerCold> so yeah this happens with all mc classic servers for m
#3152 [14:06] <SheerCold> e
#3153 [14:06] <xales> Kyll: did you put anything in server.properties on the server-ip line
#3154 [14:06] <CostlyCoincidence> Thank-you Xerati! (:
#3155 [14:06] <Kyll> Xales: No, this section is blank
#3156 [14:07] <xales> Kyll: is the server running? on the correct port?
#3157 [14:07] <Kyll> It is running, yes
#3158 [14:07] <Kyll> Do I need to open a port for a local server?
#3159 [14:08] <xales> if you are connecting with "localhost" or "127.0.0.1", no
#3160 [14:08] <Kyll> I'm connecting with "localhost", here
#3161 [14:08] <Kyll> The strange fact
#3162 [14:08] <Xerati> your firewall may block it
#3163 [14:08] <Xerati> lol
#3164 [14:08] <Kyll> Is that on my computer, I can connect
#3165 [14:09] <Kyll> But on another computer (Not the one where the server is running), I get the error
#3166 [14:09] <Xerati> what ip are you using from that server
#3167 [14:09] <Xerati> err, that other computer*
#3168 [14:09] <Xerati> sorry, fixing servers atm lol
#3169 [14:09] <Kyll> "localhost"
#3170 [14:09] <Xerati> localhost = the same machine you enter iton
#3171 [14:09] <Xerati> i.e., that other computer is connecting to itself
#3172 [14:09] <Kyll> Oh.
#3173 [14:09] <Xerati> so it will, obviously, fail
#3174 [14:09] <Kyll> But...
#3175 [14:10] <Xerati> on the computer the server is on, get the ip
#3176 [14:10] <Kyll> I tried with "192.168.1.1"
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#3178 [14:10] <Xerati> that's probably your gateway, not the ip
#3179 [14:10] <Kyll> It doesn't work too
#3180 [14:10] <Xerati> ^^
#3181 [14:10] <Xerati> gateway being your router
#3182 [14:10] <SheerCold> so i guess no one else knows how to fix this HM
#3183 [14:10] <Xerati> which isn't a computer at all
#3184 [14:10] <Kyll> o.o
#3185 [14:10] <Coll> look I would ask smp but they are dead
#3186 [14:10] <Xerati> SheerCold, i don't play classic, sorry
#3187 [14:10] <Xerati> Coll, sup?
#3188 [14:10] <Coll> anyone here know a vanilla server thats up all the time
#3189 [14:10] <Kyll> If I put "192.168.1.16"?
#3190 [14:10] <TankRust> Hello!
#3191 [14:10] <Coll> that is your local ip Kyll
#3192 [14:10] <Xerati> Kyll, that would be a valid ip
#3193 [14:11] <Xerati> Coll, that's what he needs
#3194 [14:11] <Coll> ah
#3195 [14:11] <Xerati> if that's for the server computer, then put it in on the other computer and it should route to the server computer
#3196 [14:11] <Kyll> I try it right now..
#3197 [14:11] <Xerati> ugh, i think i'm getting sick again
#3198 [14:11] <Xerati> after 2 weeks of the flu, it's nearly gone, and now i'm sick AGAIN >:(
#3199 [14:11] <Coll> so anyone knoe a server
#3200 [14:11] <Xerati> Coll, for straight vanilla...dunno
#3201 [14:12] <Xerati> CostlyCoincidence has one, but i think he's about to change it from vanilla
#3202 [14:12] <Coll> is it really hard to find a server like that
#3203 [14:12] <Xerati> sometimes :P
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#3205 [14:12] <Coll> why
#3206 [14:12] <Xerati> most run with mods to make it funner
#3207 [14:12] <SheerCold> !isup minecraft.net
#3208 [14:12] <Xerati> i like the psuedovanilla kind
#3209 [14:12] <GreyBot> SheerCold: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3210 [14:12] <SheerCold> welp
#3211 [14:13] <Xerati> where it's like 98% vanilla
#3212 [14:13] <Coll> I dont see how when most mods tend to not give you certain items to use
#3213 [14:13] <Xerati> yeah, not that kind
#3214 [14:13] <ripley8> I retried the webpage a few minutes ago again and it worked for me.
#3215 [14:13] <Xerati> that's just dumb
#3216 [14:13] <Coll> like tnt or flint and stee
#3217 [14:13] <Xerati> i like certain kinds
#3218 [14:13] <ripley8> but it's gone again... :(
#3219 [14:13] <Xerati> like protecting an area from griefing
#3220 [14:13] <Xerati> so people can build there
#3221 [14:13] <Xerati> but other than that, it's completely vanilla
#3222 [14:14] <Xerati> i might start up a server like that
#3223 [14:14] <Coll> so is it possible to build outside of that certain area and have the normal gameplay experiance
#3224 [14:14] <Coll> ?
#3225 [14:14] <Xerati> yeah, completely normal
#3226 [14:14] <Xerati> i just don't want people putting tnt all over the building that took me 10 hours to make
#3227 [14:14] <Xerati> other than that, game on!
#3228 [14:14] <Coll> well
#3229 [14:14] <Xerati> basically just a safezone from douchebags
#3230 [14:14] <Coll> kinda hard to make big places without tnt
#3231 [14:15] <Coll> exspecialy if it is in the ground
#3232 [14:15] <Xerati> yeah, but i mean like a tower
#3233 [14:15] <Coll> takes for ever to mine it without tnt
#3234 [14:15] <Xerati> tnt is slow and expensive though
#3235 [14:15] <ripley8> Coll: how big is big?
#3236 [14:15] <Xerati> if you're talking straight vanilla
#3237 [14:15] <Coll> what
#3238 [14:15] <Xerati> but if you mean a giant underground area...lemme check my screenshots
#3239 [14:15] <Coll> what do you mean big?
#3240 [14:16] <Xerati> don't has any, sorry
#3241 [14:16] <Coll> well I just want to use tnt without restrictions
#3242 [14:16] <Xerati> but i had a giant underground cave
#3243 [14:16] <Xerati> ^^yeah
#3244 [14:16] <ripley8> when is a place a big place?
#3245 [14:16] <Kyll> Argh, MC.net is down
#3246 [14:16] <Xerati> ripley8, when you can't see the other side
#3247 [14:16] <Xerati> >:D
#3248 [14:16] <Coll> ok
#3249 [14:16] <Coll> well link me to a server you have in mind
#3250 [14:16] <Carmen> Is there a spefific reason minecraft.net has been going down so much lately?
#3251 [14:17] <Kealper> i has a big underground compound on my server :o
#3252 [14:17] <Xerati> Carmen, too many people
#3253 [14:17] <Kyll> Oh, I've a question: Why MC.net is so often down?
#3254 [14:17] <Xerati> Kealper, any tnt restrictions?
#3255 [14:17] <ripley8> I guess my quarry doesn't count as big, then.
#3256 [14:17] <Xerati> Kyll, the number of people accessing it has grown exponentially and the servers can't handl eit
#3257 [14:17] <Kealper> Xerati: used tnt, it's quite predictable and easy to use when removing stone
#3258 [14:17] <Xerati> Kealper, yep
#3259 [14:17] <Xerati> that's how i made mine
#3260 [14:18] <Xerati> and then i filled in the bottom 4 layers so it was flat
#3261 [14:18] <Coll> so yeah
#3262 [14:18] <Kyll> Xerati: But doesn't the MC firm have millions of €?
#3263 [14:18] <Kealper> lemme get some screenshots of mine
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#3265 [14:18] <ripley8> I started with a 25x25 area. Halfway down I have a ledge 2 blocks wide, so the lower part is 21x21.
#3266 [14:18] <Coll> need such a server
#3267 [14:18] <Coll> anyone'
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#3269 [14:18] <Xerati> Kyll, they could probably afford to upgrade the servers just fine
#3270 [14:18] <Kealper> Coll: rawr?
#3271 [14:18] <Chaze007> bleh to these servers.
#3272 [14:18] <Xerati> trick is getting them to do so <_<
#3273 [14:18] <Coll> need a server
#3274 [14:18] <Coll> Xerati said he knew one
#3275 [14:18] <saschagehlich> hey there, can somebody explain me how to install doku's rpg texture pack on 1.3 beta?
#3276 [14:18] <Kealper> Coll: what sort of server?
#3277 [14:18] <Xerati> i know of a few, but that's only until they change their setup
#3278 [14:18] <Xerati> lol
#3279 [14:19] <Coll> pretty much a vanilla server
#3280 [14:19] <Xerati> Kealper, one without tnt restrictions
#3281 [14:19] <Coll> thats up 24/7
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#3283 [14:19] <Coll> and monsters
#3284 [14:19] <Coll> need those
#3285 [14:19] <Xerati> sounds like a griefer <_<
#3286 [14:19] <ripley8> I have an issue I'm quite sure is not related to the status of the server... Since Beta 1.3 downloaded today I cannot get into MC anymore... :(
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#3288 [14:19] <Kealper> mine is up 24/7..has monsters and damage....tnt is only allowed if you craft it yourself though
#3289 [14:19] <Coll> well sorry I want to play on vanilla
#3290 [14:19] <Xerati> ripley8, due to the login servers failing?
#3291 [14:19] <Coll> is that a problem
#3292 [14:19] <ripley8> I get an error when it tries to initialize opengl
#3293 [14:19] <Xerati> Kealper, any mods?
#3294 [14:19] <Coll> Kealper that sounds fine to me
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#3296 [14:20] <Krasiu> <sigh>
#3297 [14:20] <Xerati> ripley8, ouch
#3298 [14:20] <Xerati> yes Krasiu
#3299 [14:20] <Kealper> and mine is mostly vanilla except for a wrapper that i made to make life a bit easier
#3300 [14:20] <Xerati> it's broked
#3301 [14:20] <Krasiu> Daniel does not respond my emails ;(
#3302 [14:20] <Coll> ok
#3303 [14:20] <Coll> is it possible me and my girlfriend can play on it?
#3304 [14:20] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3305 [14:20] <Xerati> orly Kealper
#3306 [14:20] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3307 [14:20] <Kealper> Coll: to PM! lol
#3308 [14:20] <Xerati> Kealper, i want to check it out too :P
#3309 [14:21] <ripley8> Xerati: yeah. that sucks.
#3310 [14:21] <Krasiu> Is it possible to contact Daniel outcluding email?
#3311 [14:22] <ripley8> o_O
#3312 [14:22] <ripley8> I just had an epiphany.
#3313 [14:22] <ripley8> It works again!
#3314 [14:23] <ripley8> I just unplugged the external monitor (DisplayPort). I had plugged it in but not reconfigured my display setup.
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#3316 [14:23] <SRAblaze> i was wondering is minecraft.net working
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#3318 [14:24] <Krasiu> Is Daniel online sometimes, here - at IRC?
#3319 [14:25] <ripley8> now let's see whether my world will be converted flawlessly.
#3320 [14:25] <Draglems1> What program can i use to spawn mobs?
#3321 [14:25] <Kealper> you don't
#3322 [14:26] <Kealper> not without a mod
#3323 [14:26] <Kealper> also
#3324 [14:26] <Draglems1> I'm sure theres some program.
#3325 [14:26] <ripley8> looks good.
#3326 [14:26] <Kealper> if anyone was trying to get in contact with daniel@mojang.com it is preferable that you use either support@mojang.com or if you have payment issues, payment@mojang.com
#3327 [14:26] <ripley8> back to business :) \o/
#3328 [14:26] <Xerati> Krasiu has a crush on Daniel
#3329 [14:27] <Xerati> Kealper, what's your server? :(
#3330 [14:27] <Kealper> how cute :3
#3331 [14:27] <Xerati> i wanna come grief it
#3332 [14:27] <Xerati> see it*
#3333 [14:27] <Xerati> wtf
#3334 [14:27] <SheerCold> HEY is anyone a classic windows 7 expert perhaps
#3335 [14:27] <Xerati> see minecraft
#3336 [14:27] <Xerati> see index
#3337 [14:27] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex for a list of FAQ entries
#3338 [14:27] <Xerati> wow O_o
#3339 [14:28] <Xerati> SheerCold classic is too old for me :P
#3340 [14:28] <SheerCold> q_q
#3341 [14:28] <Krasiu> Xerati: haha :D
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#3343 [14:28] <Krasiu> I just need to buy 100 gift coes, and he said he could give me discount
#3344 [14:28] <Xerati> all the people?!
#3345 [14:28] <Xerati> Krasiu, geez
#3346 [14:28] <SheerCold> i saw one with 10 gift referrals
#3347 [14:29] <SheerCold> but then it redirected to swedish surveys
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#3349 [14:30] <Krasiu> I've bought already over 50 gift codes
#3350 [14:30] <Krasiu> :D
#3351 [14:30] <SheerCold> !isup minecraft.net
#3352 [14:30] <GreyBot> SheerCold: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3353 [14:30] <Krasiu> and sent email to Daniel abt discount
#3354 [14:30] <Krasiu> at first he respond, but now i wait almsot week :(
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#3356 [14:34] <Kealper> Xerati: y u DC so much >.>
#3357 [14:34] <Xerati> fixing my client
#3358 [14:34] <Xerati> and breaking it
#3359 [14:34] <Xerati> lol
#3360 [14:34] <Xerati> just 1 more time, promise
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#3363 [14:40] <saschagehlich> arr. is anyone working on the server issues? :(
#3364 [14:40] <blitzzcrank> notch took his millions and bb
#3365 [14:40] <blitzzcrank> welldone
#3366 [14:41] <saschagehlich> :D
#3367 [14:41] <PcJamesy> saschagehlich are you useng the old lancher of the new one, i have better luck on the new one
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#3369 [14:41] <saschagehlich> PcJamesy: the new one. but minecraft.net is completely down, so you won't be able to login with the old one either
#3370 [14:42] <PcJamesy> sometimes for me if one dosn't work the other will
#3371 [14:42] <Tehcmc> its been down alot today
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#3376 [14:43] <Jackson413> does the new launcher work?
#3377 [14:43] <saschagehlich> anyone got a fake server that's responding to logins? :(
#3378 [14:44] <Xerati> fake server?
#3379 [14:44] <Kealper> saschagehlich: wut
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#3381 [14:44] <Xerati> you can run a legit server in offline mode
#3382 [14:44] <Kealper> Jackson413: yes, but the site doesn't right now
#3383 [14:44] <saschagehlich> ppl can't even login when minecraft.net down
#3384 [14:44] <Jackson413> i have it on file
#3385 [14:44] <Xerati> play offline
#3386 [14:44] <saschagehlich> so they can't access the menu and can't play singleplayer mode
#3387 [14:44] <Xerati> ...
#3388 [14:44] <Xerati> when it fails to login, you can select 'play offline'
#3389 [14:44] <saschagehlich> oh you're right
#3390 [14:45] <PcJamesy> you can click play off line
#3391 [14:45] <saschagehlich> whatever, I want to play on my server :D
#3392 [14:45] <Xerati> so puit it in offline mode
#3393 [14:45] <saschagehlich> if the downtimes go on like this there will definitely be some fake auth servers soon :(
#3394 [14:45] <aetherian> good morrow
#3395 [14:46] <Krasiu> how to download game?
#3396 [14:46] <Krasiu> if minecraft.net soes not work?
#3397 [14:46] <xales> Krasiu: just wait
#3398 [14:46] <aetherian> then you don't.
#3399 [14:47] <pico> do i need to stop server to backup stuff or can i do it always while the server is running?
#3400 [14:47] <farandir> saschagehlich: So if I run server in offline mode it will be still available when login servers are down?
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#3402 [14:47] <saschagehlich> farandir: maybe, dunno whether the launcher is still authenticating on "localhost" servers
#3403 [14:48] <xales> pico: you can do it while it's running
#3404 [14:48] <farandir> saschagehlich: ok. thank you
#3405 [14:48] <xales> but you should do "save-off", then backup, then "save-on"
#3406 [14:48] <Coll> !isup minecraft.net
#3407 [14:48] <GreyBot> Coll: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3408 [14:48] <Coll> damit
#3409 [14:49] <pico> mh how to switch that with a script xales ?
#3410 [14:49] <xales> pico: whatever way you would feed stuff into stdin of the server
#3411 [14:49] <pico> dunno how D:
#3412 [14:49] <xales> if it's running in screen, there is a way to do it, but I don't remember off the top of my head
#3413 [14:49] <pico> its in screen
#3414 [14:50] <xales> there is an example script on the wiki somewhere
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#3416 [14:51] <pico> man screen just made me smarter :D
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#3418 [14:51] <pico> -X
#3419 [14:51] <Mrkrabz> Is minecraft down? i cant login
#3420 [14:51] <pico> -x Attach to a not detached screen. (Multi display mode).
#3421 [14:51] <Coll> yes its down
#3422 [14:51] <pico> -X Execute <cmd> as a screen command in the specified session.
#3423 [14:51] <mpfiv> it appears to be
#3424 [14:51] <Xerati> ^
#3425 [14:52] <pico> need to test this when login is possible again
#3426 [14:52] <Xerati> set in offline mode
#3427 [14:52] <mpfiv> out of curiosity, is anyone familiar with deleting the .dat files in the region folder on a server?
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#3430 [14:53] <mpfiv> if you were to do this if someone explored their again it would just generate them again?
#3431 [14:53] <Xerati> yes
#3432 [14:54] <Xerati> if you delete the chunk files, then they'll be recreated as normal
#3433 [14:54] <mpfiv> so if i dumped the files associated with spawn
#3434 [14:54] <mpfiv> it would just generate say a new spawn?
#3435 [14:55] <Mrkrabz> God, why can no one play online as soon as the website goes down -.-
#3436 [14:55] <Xerati> it would be the same spawn
#3437 [14:55] <Xerati> but without any changes
#3438 [14:55] <Xerati> manmade or creepermade
#3439 [14:55] <mpfiv> even though the .dat files were deleted?
#3440 [14:55] <mpfiv> wouldnt it generate entirely new material
#3441 [14:55] <Xerati> if you delete the CHUNKS, they'll regenerate
#3442 [14:56] <Xerati> if you delete the actual level.dat, no idea what will happen
#3443 [14:56] <mpfiv> chunks are what i was curious about lol
#3444 [14:56] <Arachon> I seem to remember being able to run the minecraft_server.jar without sudo privileges, but after 1.3 that is not possible... Why's that?
#3445 [14:56] <mpfiv> it still is possible?
#3446 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> Arachon: um
#3447 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> Arachon: I run the jar, not as root, all the time
#3448 [14:56] <mpfiv> or at least for me it is, im not running it using sudo
#3449 [14:57] <Arachon> DopeGhoti: Odd... I get a lot of errors
#3450 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> Pastebin them?
#3451 [14:58] <_Yossarian_> hi, having some trouble connecting to multiplayer servers since the beta 1.3 update
#3452 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> _Yossarian_: what happens when you try?
#3453 [14:58] <_Yossarian_> of the two i use one loads the player character but no terrain so you're essentially left standing in space..
#3454 [14:58] <_Yossarian_> (not sure if that's a massive lag thing)
#3455 [14:58] <_Yossarian_> the other fails to connect with a java error - "Connection Lost - Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed"
#3456 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> That could be rither a lag thing or a firewall / networking problem thing.
#3457 [14:58] <Xerati> the first is a bug
#3458 [14:58] <Xerati> due to the order of chunk loading
#3459 [14:59] <Xerati> pretty funny to watch though
#3460 [14:59] <_Yossarian_> first few times, yeah :P
#3461 [14:59] <mpfiv> it loads the farther chunks first, which confuses me to no end lol
#3462 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> _Yossarian_: are you running any firewall software?
#3463 [14:59] <_Yossarian_> standard windows firewall
#3464 [14:59] <_Yossarian_> (running xp)
#3465 [14:59] <Arachon> DopeGhoti: here we go: http://pastebin.com/zLEKmnmE
#3466 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> _Yossarian_: does this happen on all servers, or have you not tried any others yet?
#3467 [15:00] <_Yossarian_> i've only tried these two so far
#3468 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> _Yossarian_: assuming your server files are in /path/to/server/, and that the user you want to run the server as is mcserver; run the following command: `chown -R mcserver /path/to/server`
#3469 [15:01] <Lorax> are you trying to start your server now, with MC offline?
#3470 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Lorax: the server will still start in such a case.
#3471 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Lorax: it's only upon player connections that it reaches out to its semipresent overlords.
#3472 [15:02] <_Yossarian_> ugh. sorry about this - i have to go afk for a while. awful timing
#3473 [15:02] <_Yossarian_> thanks for your time anyway
#3474 [15:02] <xales> hey DopeGhoti
#3475 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> _Yossarian_: np
#3476 [15:02] <xales> can you check my bot for a sec
#3477 [15:02] <_Yossarian_> and your last message is noted dopeghoti. thanks
#3478 [15:02] <xales> (".whoami")
#3479 [15:03] <Coll> !isup minecraft.net
#3480 [15:03] <GreyBot> Coll: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3481 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> Arachon: this was actually for you and mpfiv: Aassuming your server files are in /path/to/server/, and that the user you want to run the server as is mcserver; run the following command: `chown -R mcserver /path/to/server`
#3482 [15:03] <Coll> any idea when it might be up?
#3483 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> xales: eh?
#3484 [15:04] <mpfiv> oh my server is operating fine dopeghoti heh, I was just curious about deleting chunk files
#3485 [15:04] <xales> DopeGhoti: say ".whoami" in here for me :)
#3486 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> .whoami
#3487 [15:04] <xales> :<
#3488 [15:04] <mpfiv> lol was the bot supposed to respond or something?
#3489 [15:04] <Arachon> DopeGhoti: Thing is, I've got all the server files in 'mcserver's home directory
#3490 [15:05] <xales> .whoami
#3491 [15:05] <|Herobrine|> You are "xales" with flags +zo
#3492 [15:05] <sardo97> Do you guys do support for W.O.M.? I'm having a problem.
#3493 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Arachon: yes, but if ever you did run the server as root, its files got root's permissions
#3494 [15:05] <xales> sardo97: #wom
#3495 [15:05] <sardo97> Ok
#3496 [15:05] <mpfiv> .whoami
#3497 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Arachon: that error is a permissions failure asserting the server lockfile
#3498 [15:05] <Arachon> DopeGhoti: Right
#3499 [15:05] <Arachon> So I want to do chown -R mcserver /home/mcserver then?
#3500 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Arachon: you need to make $MCSERVERUSER own that file so that it can be overwritten
#3501 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#3502 [15:05] <Arachon> Right
#3503 [15:06] <Arachon> But in that case I make the entire directory owned?
#3504 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> well.. sudo chown [...]
#3505 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> that's what the -R is for.
#3506 [15:06] <SheerCold> Oi is anyone on who knows how classic is with windows 7 yet
#3507 [15:06] <sardo97> Xales, thats not a channel
#3508 [15:06] <xales> sardo97: it is, in fact
#3509 [15:06] <sardo97> Well it wont work for me
#3510 [15:06] <xales> >> (15:06:40) (xales[+irwz][away]) (29:espernet/#wom[+npst]) (33 nicks (@3 %0 +0 30))
#3511 [15:06] <Arachon> DopeGhoti: Ah, for 'Recursive'? (Not quite familiar with all CLI commands yet)
#3512 [15:07] <sardo97> Brb
#3513 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> indeed, R as in Recursive (:
#3514 [15:07] <blitzzcrank> what the hell is wrong with this beta, the game is failing since 1.3
#3515 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> ??> blitzzcrank specific
#3516 [15:07] <VoxelHead> blitzzcrank: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#3517 [15:07] <SheerCold> i'm just mad at classic right now
#3518 [15:07] <VoxelHead> blitzzcrank: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
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#3520 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> Glad to be of service.
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#3522 [15:09] <beefsugar> minecraft currently down?
#3523 [15:09] <xales> yes
#3524 [15:10] <beefsugar> k
#3525 [15:10] <beefsugar> ty
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#3527 [15:11] <Morokai> is anyone else having issues with their minecraft servers today?
#3528 [15:11] <Morokai> I restarted my server after experiencing a bit of lag, and it now refuses to let anybody conenct to it.
#3529 [15:12] <beefsugar> is it local?
#3530 [15:12] <Morokai> I have reforewarded all possible IP's and ports but it still refuses to let me connect
#3531 [15:12] <beefsugar> because minecraft is down
#3532 [15:12] <Morokai> and no, it is online
#3533 [15:12] <Morokai> wont let me use local
#3534 [15:12] <mpfiv> it gives you a 503 error doesnt it?
#3535 [15:12] <Morokai> yep
#3536 [15:12] <beefsugar> lol then thats y
#3537 [15:12] <beefsugar> minecraft down
#3538 [15:12] <beefsugar> simple as that
#3539 [15:12] <mpfiv> thats mc nameservers down
#3540 [15:12] <Morokai> ok
#3541 [15:12] <mpfiv> not your server, you server is fine lol
#3542 [15:12] <Morokai> thats what I though
#3543 [15:13] <Mrkrabz> is WoM client safe?
#3544 [15:13] <Morokai> should be from what I heard
#3545 [15:13] <Morokai> no experience with it myself though
#3546 [15:14] <AceC> is there something preventing me from building near my spawn point? or is it lag :P
#3547 [15:14] <beefsugar> ya thats built in
#3548 [15:14] <Xerati> by default you can't mess with spawn chun
#3549 [15:14] <Morokai> yes
#3550 [15:14] <Xerati> chunk
#3551 [15:14] <sardo97> Back
#3552 [15:14] <beefsugar> can't build there
#3553 [15:14] <Morokai> unless your an admin
#3554 [15:14] <AceC> ahh ok thx :)
#3555 [15:14] <beefsugar> ya
#3556 [15:14] <sardo97> Is anyone else having the problem where you cant move the minecraft.jar file into the lib folder on wom?
#3557 [15:14] <AceC> building me a train from spawn to home :)
#3558 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> ??> AceC smp/opyourself
#3559 [15:15] <VoxelHead> AceC: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#3560 [15:15] <VoxelHead> AceC: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#3561 [15:15] <AceC> ok thx.. ill op myself :)
#3562 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> ??> sardo97 mods
#3563 [15:15] <VoxelHead> sardo97: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3564 [15:15] <VoxelHead> sardo97: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3565 [15:16] <sardo97> is there a channel for wom help? does anyone know?
#3566 [15:17] <xales> sardo97: #wom
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#3568 [15:17] <saschagehlich> mollstam: ping?
#3569 [15:17] <sardo97> it says error 404 cant send to channel
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#3571 [15:19] <Morokai> it is now refusing to let me use a local server
#3572 [15:20] <Morokai> in offline mode
#3573 [15:20] <xales> sardo97: you are sending to it just fine...
#3574 [15:20] <sardo97> KK
#3575 [15:20] <sardo97> Can u help me there?
#3576 [15:20] <Morokai> or nevermind, changed a setting and now its running offline
#3577 [15:21] <Morokai> just kind of annoying to have a different problem with the server almost every day
#3578 [15:24] <sardo97> Hi
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#3582 [15:27] <AceC> 2011-02-26 21:21:43 [INFO] CONSOLE: Opping AceC
#3583 [15:27] <AceC> 2011-02-26 21:22:15 [INFO] Player tried command: give AceC 22 1
#3584 [15:27] <Graeleight> #help
#3585 [15:28] <AceC> opping dont work in offline mode?
#3586 [15:28] <Xerati> is your name AceC ingame?
#3587 [15:28] <Xerati> or is it player?
#3588 [15:28] <AceC> i see mu nick in ops.txt
#3589 [15:28] <xales> Graeleight: do you mean "/join #help" <.<
#3590 [15:29] <AceC> yes
#3591 [15:29] <Graeleight> No i'm trying to register
#3592 [15:30] <Graeleight> in #minecraft
#3593 [15:30] <xales> /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
#3594 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> AceC: your server is in Offline mode
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#3596 [15:31] <AceC> yes
#3597 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> AceC: as is your client, so you're logged into the server as 'Player'
#3598 [15:31] <Carmen> Anyone suggest a certian server if I were to buy a minecraft server? servercraft.co sucks |:
#3599 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> AceC: (do not op Player.)
#3600 [15:32] <Xerati> DopeGhoti, it should still log in as the user
#3601 [15:32] <Xerati> unless they;'re using the old client
#3602 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Xerati: not if the client is also in offline mode
#3603 [15:32] <Xerati> older client = player
#3604 [15:32] <Xerati> new client in offline mode still logs you in with your name
#3605 [15:32] <AceC> ahh... ok ill just wait till i can use online mode again... dont want to op "player " :)
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#3607 [15:32] <pixartist> heyo
#3608 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#3609 [15:33] <AceC> Thx for the help :)
#3610 [15:33] <pixartist> Can someone explain me where / how the block ID in the decompressed chunks is saved ?
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#3612 [15:33] <pixartist> the wiki lacks pretty much
#3613 [15:33] <pixartist> or I'm too stupid
#3614 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Beta_Level_Format
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#3616 [15:34] <pixartist> I read that
#3617 [15:34] <pixartist> but the chunk data is same format as in alpha
#3618 [15:34] <pixartist> and the page does not really explain it
#3619 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> That's because all a region is, is a set of chunks.
#3620 [15:35] <pixartist> I'm trying to iterate by the y axis
#3621 [15:35] <pixartist> ret = chunkdata[i + (z * chunkSizeY + (x * chunkSizeY * chunkSizeXZ))];
#3622 [15:35] <pixartist> I already extracted the chunks from the regions and inflated them ;)
#3623 [15:36] <pixartist> how much of that byte is actually the ID ?
#3624 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> okay, so if you have the chunkfile, that should be the same as the old .dat files. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Level_Format/Chunk_File_Format
#3625 [15:36] <pixartist> I read that
#3626 [15:36] <pixartist> see my previous statement
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#3628 [15:37] <pixartist>  ret = chunkdata[i + (z * chunkSizeY + (x * chunkSizeY * chunkSizeXZ))];
#3629 [15:37] <pixartist> but I'm getting id's like 112 etc
#3630 [15:37] <pixartist> wanna see the code ?
#3631 [15:38] <pixartist> DopeGhoti http://pastebin.com/0x96MY0X
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#3635 [15:40] <h1e> mc overloaded again? ^^
#3636 [15:40] <wippler> Am I the only one with a "503 error when launching multiplayer?
#3637 [15:41] <Salz`> wippler: no
#3638 [15:41] <wippler> mkay, w&s then :)
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#3640 [15:41] <SevFTW> wait, is the login server down too?
#3641 [15:42] <pixartist> DopeGhoti there ?
#3642 [15:42] <h1e> how long we have to wait? ^^
#3643 [15:43] <feenyx> how long is a piece of string?
#3644 [15:43] <ItsCriminal> what is wrong with MC?
#3645 [15:44] <wippler> its awesomebess
#3646 [15:44] <Xerati> too many bitches is playing it at once
#3647 [15:44] <wippler> too popular=overloaded
#3648 [15:44] <Xerati> ^^
#3649 [15:44] <pixartist> Can someone tell me, why I'm getting wrong block ID's in getTopmostBlockID() ? http://pastebin.com/9a8cbLEq
#3650 [15:44] <ItsCriminal> haha :D well a friend want to buy it :D
#3651 [15:44] <Xerati> wrong chan to ask
#3652 [15:45] <wippler> tell your friend not to, or the next downtime is on him!
#3653 [15:45] <wippler> :p
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#3655 [15:45] <feenyx> I gifted it to my brother last weekend :o
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#3658 [15:45] <Lampshade> Hello?
#3659 [15:45] <wippler> well, this on is on your bro then
#3660 [15:46] <wippler> Hi!
#3661 [15:46] <wippler> Yeah
#3662 [15:46] <feenyx> I guess it is :)
#3663 [15:46] <Lampshade> I need help with wom on Minecraft
#3664 [15:46] <wippler> MC Down
#3665 [15:46] <Xerati> you don't get WOM help here
#3666 [15:46] <Lampshade> Everytime I use my mouse the menu comes up
#3667 [15:46] <Lampshade> Where at then?
#3668 [15:46] <xales> #wom
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#3670 [15:46] <Xerati> no idea
#3671 [15:46] <Xerati> er, #wom then
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#3673 [15:47] <pixartist> Can someone tell me, why I'm getting wrong block ID's in getTopmostBlockID() ? http://pastebin.com/9a8cbLEq
#3674 [15:47] <Lampshade> Thanks
#3675 [15:47] <xales> pixartist: this isn't the place for support with modding things
#3676 [15:47] <KiaraBane> I'm probably the zillionth person to ask, but is the site down? o.o;
#3677 [15:47] <xales> #risucraft for that
#3678 [15:47] <xales> KiaraBane: yes
#3679 [15:47] <pixartist> thanks
#3680 [15:47] <wippler> hey pixartist, we do not know!
#3681 [15:47] <KiaraBane> Mmk. Is there something I can check for updates?
#3682 [15:47] <wippler> It is down because you tried to login like a crazy person for the past 5 mins
#3683 [15:47] <Litehammer> yes its down again
#3684 [15:47] <xales> KiaraBane: not really
#3685 [15:47] <Mathuin> It was up a few minutes ago when I gave a demo. Woo.
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#3687 [15:48] <KiaraBane> Shucks. Aw well. And I only tried logging in once, so I hope that wasn't directed at me...
#3688 [15:48] <feenyx> it wasn't
#3689 [15:48] <wippler> It's been buggy the whole day
#3690 [15:48] <Litehammer> you broke it hehe
#3691 [15:48] <KiaraBane> Yea I think it started at about 3am?
#3692 [15:48] <wippler> hmm, I'm on UTC+1, so no idea
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#3695 [15:48] <KiaraBane> well lol 3am my time, so 12 hours ago.
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#3697 [15:48] <wippler> ok, I'm gonna say it. I'm french
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#3702 [15:50] <Xerati> AHAHAHAHAHAHA
#3703 [15:50] <Xerati> poor wippler
#3704 [15:50] <wippler> Yay! GO France, GO!
#3705 [15:50] <wippler> :)
#3706 [15:50] <Xerati> kekeke
#3707 [15:50] <KiaraBane> lol <---- Canadian
#3708 [15:51] <Xerati> oh god, french candians
#3709 [15:51] * Xerati runs
#3709 [15:51] <Xerati> oops, canadians*
#3710 [15:51] <Xerati> then again, i'm american
#3711 [15:51] <feenyx> INFIDEL
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#3713 [15:51] <feenyx> ....not that I'm from the middle East or anything
#3714 [15:51] <wippler> you americans do say "bon appetit" like its super classy thought
#3715 [15:51] <Wahrheit> !check minecraft.net
#3716 [15:52] <Wahrheit> fack
#3717 [15:52] <Xerati> wippler, yeah
#3718 [15:52] <relsqui> Wahrheit: there's no minecraft server running on minecraft.net
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#3720 [15:52] <Xerati> because it sounds like it
#3721 [15:52] <relsqui> Wahrheit: which is what that checks. did you mean !isdown?
#3722 [15:52] <Wahrheit> Probably.
#3723 [15:52] <Wahrheit> !isdown minecraft.net
#3724 [15:52] <Xerati> lolol
#3725 [15:52] <GreyBot> Wahrheit: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
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#3727 [15:52] <Wahrheit> !check mc.summaxr.com:27265
#3728 [15:52] <feenyx> I'm every so slightly disappointed there's no server running at minecraft.net =/
#3729 [15:52] <Wahrheit> :D
#3730 [15:52] <feenyx> ever*
#3731 [15:53] <relsqui> feenyx: think of how much lag there is to minecraft.net *without* one :P
#3732 [15:53] <Taji34> I need help.
#3733 [15:53] <wippler> I should go get addicted to something more reliable
#3734 [15:53] <Xerati> lol
#3735 [15:53] <Xerati> yeah, like hookers
#3736 [15:53] <relsqui> wippler: like heroin
#3737 [15:53] <wippler> let's see what drugs can do about that
#3738 [15:53] <feenyx> relsqui: it's not the bandwidth that's the issue per se, it's the sheer number of requests the site gets bombarded with
#3739 [15:53] <wippler> oh yeah, hooker, good job!
#3740 [15:53] <relsqui> yeah, I know
#3741 [15:53] <KiaraBane> I'm sad that it's down overall. I can only host from where I am at this weekend, not from my usual place of residence, because at my place I can't get onto the router to open ports to host...
#3742 [15:53] <Xerati> Kealper's causing trouble again
#3743 [15:53] <xales> what..
#3744 [15:53] <KiaraBane> And I wanna host and now my time is so limited... sad faaaaaacee.
#3745 [15:54] <Xerati> xales, what are you doing?
#3746 [15:54] <xales> there we go
#3747 [15:54] <Xerati> lol
#3748 [15:54] <xales> ffs
#3749 [15:54] <KiaraBane> Ah well. Here's hoping it all goes up again soon. Mmk, bye all, thanks for the heads up.
#3750 [15:54] <wippler> np
#3751 [15:54] <Taji34> Can anyone help me? MInecraft keeps going unresponsive on my computer, I have the latest java, and I run windows 7 home premium 64 bit. I don't know what to do.
#3752 [15:55] <xales> Taji34: has it always done this?
#3753 [15:55] <wippler> ow, Windows...
#3754 [15:55] <Xerati> uninstall all of your java's, and then install the 64bit one
#3755 [15:55] <xales> ^
#3756 [15:55] <FFLaguna> Taji34 - Does it go blackscreen?
#3757 [15:55] <Wahrheit> Is there any way to be notified when the servers are fixed?
#3758 [15:55] <xales> Wahrheit: no
#3759 [15:55] <Xerati> lol
#3760 [15:56] <Wahrheit> xales: no u
#3761 [15:56] <Taji34> no it hasn't, i just switched computers, since i just got a new one. My previous one was windows vista, and no it doesn't black screen, it just stops responding.
#3762 [15:56] <Xerati> Taji34, do my suggestion
#3763 [15:56] <Xerati> it fixes like 99% of those kinds of issues
#3764 [15:56] <Xerati> so long as you've already confirmed/updated mc to the latest?
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#3766 [15:57] <Taji34> I have the latest version of java both 32 and 64 bit, i just did a fresh reinstall of java last night and it still isn't working. I have both 32 and 64 bit because my computer came with both, should i try uninstalling the 32 bit?
#3767 [15:58] <FFLaguna> xales - Will you remove my ban from #minecraft channel?
#3768 [15:58] <wippler> Yep, that could help
#3769 [15:58] <CostlyCoincidence> Hey everyone! (: Quick question; When I try to load up my Multiplayer Beta server through localhost I get an error message that shows a minecraft.net URL. I'm unable to connect, is that merely because the Minecraft server itself is down?
#3770 [15:58] <FFLaguna> Server is down... it's affecting everybody
#3771 [15:58] <wippler> It's not a coincidende, and it is free indeed
#3772 [15:58] <wippler> so yeah, server down
#3773 [15:58] <CostlyCoincidence> Cute joke, Wippler. Thank you, FFLaguna!
#3774 [15:59] <CostlyCoincidence> that's too bad, too. Had three friends going to purchase it just now so they could play with me.
#3775 [15:59] <Taji34> so unistall java 32 bit so i just have java 64 bit?
#3776 [15:59] <CostlyCoincidence> Sucks to be them!
#3777 [15:59] <feenyx> CostlyCoincidence: yeah, when you connect, the mc server asks minecraft.net if the person logging in has a valid account. If that check times out (like it does now), you'll get that error
#3778 [15:59] <wippler> non, no more new players please!
#3779 [15:59] <CostlyCoincidence> Well they're not new, per se. New to the Multiplayer world, yes.
#3780 [16:00] <xales> FFLaguna: sure
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#3782 [16:00] <wippler> (dumb question: how can I put someones name in a message?)
#3783 [16:00] <xales> wippler: ?
#3784 [16:00] <wippler> just like you did xales
#3785 [16:00] <wippler> ok
#3786 [16:01] <wippler> I'm dumb, just need to actually type the name
#3787 [16:01] <xales> wippler: oh
#3788 [16:01] <xales> start typing the name and hit tab
#3789 [16:01] <FFLaguna> xales - Thanks, sent you a PM
#3790 [16:01] <wippler> m'kay xales, thx
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#3792 [16:02] <wippler> lol ?
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#3796 [16:03] <Mathuin> Even the forums are having trouble. :-)
#3797 [16:03] <Desparil> and me
#3798 [16:03] <Kealper> forums are hosted by a 3rd party
#3799 [16:03] <Desparil> I am trying to host a server, do I put my internal or external ip in 'server-ip=' in the server.properties file ?
#3800 [16:04] <Kealper> leave it blank in most cases
#3801 [16:04] <Taji34> Minecraft is still not working.
#3802 [16:04] <Desparil> well that I tried to no avail
#3803 [16:04] <Mathuin> Kealper: I know, but they're also having a lot of folks visit them.
#3804 [16:04] <Kealper> Desparil: also....set online-mode to false and try again
#3805 [16:04] <Desparil> oh?
#3806 [16:04] <wippler> Quick question: how to enable "peaceful" on a server?
#3807 [16:04] <Kealper> Mathuin: indeed ._.
#3808 [16:04] <Desparil> what does online-mode do? check with MC master server?
#3809 [16:04] <Kealper> wippler: spawn-monsters=false
#3810 [16:05] <Kealper> Desparil: yes
#3811 [16:05] <Desparil> aha :) didnt think about that :)
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#3814 [16:05] <Kealper> Desparil: ensures the person connecting is actually an owner of the game
#3815 [16:05] <Desparil> well I bought the game for all my buddies so :p
#3816 [16:06] <wippler> Desparil: the next server crash is on you. MC needs to be kept secret
#3817 [16:06] <Taji34> xales: do you know what could be wrong? I have the latest java, both 32 and 64 bit. I re-installed them last night and minecraft still isn't working. what else could be wrong?
#3818 [16:06] <Desparil> good luck on that :)
#3819 [16:06] <xales> Taji34: you should only have the 64bit version installed
#3820 [16:06] <xales> uninstall both, and install 64 bit
#3821 [16:06] <Taji34> ok.
#3822 [16:06] <Desparil> MC is spreading more rapidly than the bubonic plague
#3823 [16:06] <Taji34> brb.
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#3825 [16:07] <wippler> Desparil: and just like the plague, its killing (servers) all around the globe
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#3827 [16:07] <nanotron> We must pray unto Notch so that he may resurrect minecraft.net
#3828 [16:08] <wippler> nanotron: shall we sacrifice a piggy or something too?
#3829 [16:08] <wippler> oh wait, no can do, servers down...
#3830 [16:09] <PcJamesy> how long have they been down now btw
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#3832 [16:09] <wippler> PcJamesy: been in and out the whole day
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#3834 [16:09] <Frogger3140> does minecraft use a TCP or a UDP port?
#3835 [16:09] <Mathuin> I hit F3 by accident today in single-player. How long has that been in the game?
#3836 [16:09] <wippler> must be because of the WE
#3837 [16:10] <PcJamesy> wippler i must miss the times it ison
#3838 [16:10] <Frogger3140> and I mean minecraft server
#3839 [16:10] <Kealper> Mathuin: forever.....but 1.3 made it a toggle instead of push-to-show
#3840 [16:10] <wippler> Mathuin: since day 1 I guess (debug)
#3841 [16:10] <Kyros> Hey, minecraft.net down for everyone? Has any eta been posted?
#3842 [16:10] <Mathuin> Kealper: I almost feel like I'm cheating looking at my coordinates with it. :-)
#3843 [16:10] <wippler> Kyros: eta: asap when problem solved
#3844 [16:10] <Kealper> lol
#3845 [16:11] <Kyros> Did they mention what the problem is?
#3846 [16:11] <wippler> Kyros: game login sever down
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#3848 [16:11] <wippler> Kyros: too much MC players hammering the server
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#3850 [16:11] <Blue_Star> thats not the users fault ;)
#3851 [16:12] <nanotron> rainy day off... nothing pending.. and what happens? minecraft.net goes down
#3852 [16:12] <Frogger3140> does the minecraft server use TCP or UDP and does it use inbound or outbound?
#3853 [16:12] <Kyros> wippler: It shouldn't be that big of a problem to setup multiple servers with a round robin DNS
#3854 [16:12] <Desparil> Frogger3140 considering you have to forward port I'd say udp
#3855 [16:12] <Frogger3140> OK
#3856 [16:12] <Desparil> both
#3857 [16:12] <Frogger3140> in or out?
#3858 [16:12] <Frogger3140> ok
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#3860 [16:12] <Desparil> but im not 100
#3861 [16:12] <xolotl> Frogger3140: Minecraft uses TCP only
#3862 [16:12] <Kealper> eh?
#3863 [16:12] <Kealper> NIET
#3864 [16:12] <Desparil> are you trying to forward?
#3865 [16:12] <Kealper> TCP
#3866 [16:12] <wippler> Kyros: I agree, but again...MC is still Beta
#3867 [16:12] <Kyros> Frogger3140: Both TCP and UDP, port 25655 by default, in and out
#3868 [16:12] <Desparil> `my bad :)
#3869 [16:12] <nanotron> online-mode=false doesn't seem to make a difference
#3870 [16:12] <Frogger3140> OK
#3871 [16:12] <wippler> xolotl: false
#3872 [16:13] <nanotron> does 'online-mode=false' work for anyone?
#3873 [16:13] <Kyros> wippler: I can understand bugs. That's fine. But this a genuine lack of basic support.
#3874 [16:13] <Kealper> wippler: minecraft is TCP-only
#3875 [16:13] <xolotl> wippler: Uh no. It uses only TCP.
#3876 [16:13] <Kyros> xolotl: Check the wiki.
#3877 [16:13] * xolotl commends himself on the intelligent-sounding "Uh no."
#3877 [16:13] <wippler> Kyros: oh and I'm not in any way (except for 14$95 on my paypal) with MC :)
#3878 [16:13] <wippler> *realted
#3879 [16:13] <nanotron> well, I paid for 3 accounts for the multi-player and this kind of blows
#3880 [16:13] <xolotl> Kyros: I don't need to check the wiki; my TCP-only portforwarding has been working since pre-Halloween
#3881 [16:14] <wippler> nanotron: it's beta...
#3882 [16:14] <xales> Kealper and I have also both packetsniffed Minecraft
#3883 [16:14] <Kyros> xolotl: so your proof is that your firewall sucks?
#3884 [16:14] <xales> there was only the single TCP connection
#3885 [16:14] <Taji34> xales: That didn't work, when i try to run minecraft now a pop up saying this appears: "No JZVM could be found on your system. Please define EXE4J_JAVA_HOME to point to an installed 32-bit JDK or JRE or download a JRE from www.java.com"
#3886 [16:14] <Kyros> The official ports are both TCP and UDP
#3887 [16:14] <xales> Taji34: O_o
#3888 [16:14] <Kealper> Kyros: it says that so retarded people make sure they get it right
#3889 [16:15] <xolotl> Kyros: To say nothing of the fact that I've written my own dissectors for the Minecraft protocol
#3890 [16:15] <Kyros> Or it says that because Minecraft may use UDP in the future
#3891 [16:15] <xales> Kyros: Minecraft does not use the UDP protocol in any way
#3892 [16:15] <xolotl> Kyros: UDP is not used; it is all TCP.
#3893 [16:15] <jj007force> Taji34: reconfigure ur java...best bet
#3894 [16:15] <xales> Kyros: It also makes no sense at all for it to eventually use UDP
#3895 [16:15] <Mathuin> I can't see what Minecraft would get out of UDP.
#3896 [16:15] <Kyros> Taji34: Install a JRE
#3897 [16:15] <xales> please, learn how networking works before challenging the people with more experience in this stuff :)
#3898 [16:15] <Desparil> its good that its TCP only
#3899 [16:15] <Mathuin> Except *maybe* some sort of neighbor server discovery algorithm.
#3900 [16:15] <Kealper> it wouldn't use UDP, UDP would be garbage for online games
#3901 [16:15] <xales> ^
#3902 [16:15] <Frogger3140> OK so my firewall rule is allow 25565 from any ip to any ip in and out with TCP
#3903 [16:15] <Kealper> and what Mathuin said
#3904 [16:15] <xolotl> Kyros: You're welcome to try to prove me wrong with some packet dumps
#3905 [16:16] <Desparil> TCP = firewall friendly :)
#3906 [16:16] <Kyros> I'm not saying it's a good idea to use UDP. I'm saying thats what the official documentation states.
#3907 [16:16] <Taji34> jj007force: how do i reconfigure my java?
#3908 [16:16] <Kealper> Desparil: only on outgoing connections :/
#3909 [16:16] <Kyros> I'm assuming it's stated that way for a reason
#3910 [16:16] <xales> Taji34: Are you actually running 64bit Windows?
#3911 [16:16] <wippler> Did somebody feed a huge troll in that room? I can smell it from here!
#3912 [16:16] <Taji34> yes.
#3913 [16:16] <Kealper> incoming TCP connections still need to be forwarded through NATs
#3914 [16:16] <xales> Taji34: I guess install the 32bit again =/
#3915 [16:16] <Mathuin> ... when will Minecraft support IPv6? *ducks*
#3916 [16:16] <Taji34> k.
#3917 [16:17] <wippler> TCP and UDP both suck. Yay for ARP!
#3918 [16:17] <jj007force> Taji34: by reconfigure I mean just reinstall.
#3919 [16:17] <Kealper> <3 TCP
#3920 [16:17] <jj007force> yeh for AARP XD
#3921 [16:17] <Taji34> jj007force: i have tried that, it doesn't work. :(
#3922 [16:17] <Desparil> ok hf all
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#3924 [16:18] <jj007force> Taji34: strange...have u checked online for the same error report, and possible solutions?
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#3926 [16:18] <jj007force> Taji34: were u able to play minecraft before? or run other java applications?
#3927 [16:19] <xolotl> Kyros: minecraftwiki != "official." If it says UDP anywhere in there, then it's wrong.
#3928 [16:19] <Taji34> jj007force: Not on my new computer, no and i haven't tried running other java applications. I just got this new computer and one of the first thing i tried was running minecraft.
#3929 [16:19] <wippler> xolotl: if not UDP port is opened in my iptables, then no MC. I take that as a proof
#3930 [16:20] <xolotl> wippler: Packet dumps or it didn't happen. :)
#3931 [16:20] <xales> wippler: I ran a Minecraft server just fine, and didn't allow any UDP traffic
#3932 [16:20] <Taji34> jj007force: wait, i only got that error after unistalling java 32 bit.
#3933 [16:20] <wippler> xolotl: that what the sysadmin said? :)
#3934 [16:21] <jj007force> Taji34: ahh...okay.
#3935 [16:21] <jj007force> Taji34: and u r on a 64 bit system?
#3936 [16:21] <wippler> I'm just going to shut up then, as you made me doubt of myself
#3937 [16:21] <jj007force> Taji34: is ur OS 64-bit?
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#3939 [16:22] <xolotl> wippler: I have done packet dumps, I have written my own dissector for the protocol, and I have been running a server for four months. It is TCP-only.
#3940 [16:22] <Kealper> just because i can..imma fire up Wireshark, filter by UDP, then go through minecraft stuff
#3941 [16:22] <xolotl> Not that it's going to *hurt* anything to forward UDP too
#3942 [16:22] <xolotl> Just saying it's not necessary in any way
#3943 [16:22] <Taji34> jj007force: yes, my OS is 64 bit. What happens with minecraft when i have Java 32 bit installed is it starts up and freezes the instant i click something in the program. without 32 bit installed it doesn't run at all.
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#3947 [16:23] <wippler> xolotl: understood! it's a bit off topic, but what do you mean by "dissector"?
#3948 [16:24] <Kyros> It intercepts and can interrogate and inject information into the network stream
#3949 [16:24] <xolotl> wippler: It's a fancy term for code that "understands" a given protocol
#3950 [16:25] <xolotl> In my case I had written something to sniff traffic and dump a local cache of SMP worlds to my local disk
#3951 [16:25] <wippler> ok, then I'm less stupid that I was 5 mins ago. Thx MC for being broken
#3952 [16:25] <Kyros> xolotl: Why do you want to cache SMP worlds?
#3953 [16:25] <jj007force> according to the java support u can install both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of java on ur system
#3954 [16:26] <xolotl> Kyros: To find diamonds. What other reason could there be? :)
#3955 [16:26] <jj007force> Taji34: according to the java support u can install both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of java on ur system
#3956 [16:26] <xolotl> (or any other arbitrary resources. Clay, pumpkins, etc. :)
#3957 [16:27] <Kyros> xolotl: Clever
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#3959 [16:28] <wippler> xolotl: wouldn't it be easier to user an inventory editor or the like?
#3960 [16:28] <wippler> xolotl: less fun, I agree
#3961 [16:28] <Mathuin> wippler: inventory editors don't help in multiplayer.
#3962 [16:28] <Taji34> jj007force: that is what i have done, I have installed the most up to date version of java both 32 bit and 64 bit, but minecraft still goes unresponsive once i click something.
#3963 [16:28] <xales> Taji34: do you have any other programs open, including antivirus (several are known to cause problems)
#3964 [16:30] <xolotl> wippler: What Mathuin said; you'd have to find/use some kind of protocol-level h4x to inject items (which became harder with serverside inventory) (disclaimer: I never actually did that)
#3965 [16:31] <Coll> !isup minecraft.net
#3966 [16:31] <GreyBot> Coll: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3967 [16:31] <Coll> :<
#3968 [16:31] <Taji34> a free anti-virus trial is all.
#3969 [16:31] <xolotl> Plus I don't consider offline map introspection to be cheating, but I do consider inventory hacking cheating. :)
#3970 [16:31] <xales> Taji34: what is it?
#3971 [16:31] <Kealper> you can't do any inv hacking on smp servers now
#3972 [16:31] <xolotl> Morally dubious, perhaps, but not cheating.
#3973 [16:31] <Kealper> all that is done serverside now
#3974 [16:31] * xolotl resists putting another smiley in there
#3974 [16:31] <Taji34> mcafee
#3975 [16:32] <wippler> I even consider "F3" plus coordinates cheating
#3976 [16:32] <Taji34> came with the computer
#3977 [16:32] <Mathuin> wippler: So do I, as I mentioned earlier. :-)
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#3979 [16:32] <wippler> on the other hand, stealing Redstone in someone's else box is not. Is it? ^^
#3980 [16:33] <xolotl> wippler: Yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of folks who would disagree with my distinction. :)
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#3983 [16:33] <xolotl> When I'm on SMP nowadays, I prefer to spend more time building and less time hunting for resources is all. I've had to restart from scratch due to server moves/changes/etc too often.
#3984 [16:34] <wippler> xolotl: I think your technique, may it be considered cheating or not, is quite classy
#3985 [16:34] <Kyros> Taji34: Try uninstalling it.
#3986 [16:34] <Mathuin> Now *that* would be an interesting mod idea. "ownership" of resources. Hmm.
#3987 [16:34] <xales> yeah
#3988 [16:34] <xolotl> When I want to dungeon-crawl and fight baddies I prefer to just be in singleplayer
#3989 [16:34] <xales> McAfee is horrible
#3990 [16:34] <xales> (which is why it comes with the computer - they can't sell it any other way)
#3991 [16:34] <wippler> Mathuin: lockable box would be enough
#3992 [16:34] <Mathuin> wippler: It'd be a start. What about making a *mailbox*.
#3993 [16:35] <Taji34> K
#3994 [16:35] <Mathuin> A la WoW. Address a package to someone, they can pick it up at any other mailbox.
#3995 [16:35] <Taji34> wait, java or the trial?
#3996 [16:35] <wippler> Mathuin: a way to send messages to an address using a user"at"place syntax? Neat! Gmail did it alright.
#3997 [16:35] <xales> Taji34: the trial
#3998 [16:35] <Mathuin> Not user at place, just user.
#3999 [16:35] <Mathuin> So if you have a remote construction site, just build a mailbox, then you can send and receive stuff.
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#4001 [16:36] <wippler> Mathuin: I was kiding, but your idea seems nice
#4002 [16:36] <Mathuin> Mining? Build a mailbox at the mine. :-)
#4003 [16:36] <Carmen> Is there a place I can get the minecraft server software that's not minecraft.net?
#4004 [16:36] <xolotl> Mathuin, wippler: There are mods on servers to let you specify differing ownership levels on chests, etc (ie: locked-by-owner, locked-by-password, etc). Or at least hmod used to have 'em; I assume they've been ported/rewritten for Bukkit too.
#4005 [16:36] <Mathuin> xolotl: Fascinating. Good to know.
#4006 [16:36] <Xerati> Carmen, i can throw up a vanilla copy, if xales is ok with it
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#4008 [16:36] <Taji34> ok, but mcafee didn't interefere with minecraft on my other computer, plus i need anti-virus.
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#4010 [16:37] <xales> Xerati: the server is actually not hosted directly on minecraft.net - let me find the link, one sec
#4011 [16:37] <Xerati> orly
#4012 [16:37] <Xerati> what about launcher?
#4013 [16:37] <xolotl> Xerati: All the data files are actually on the amazon cloud
#4014 [16:37] <xales> Taji34: Even so, it could easily be the problem. McAfee is a piece of shit, and there are better alternatives. (I suggest Avira AntiVir - it's free)
#4015 [16:37] <xolotl> cloouuuuuud.
#4016 [16:37] <wippler> Taji34: Mc Affee is not an AV. It's a piece of marketing with a badly enginneerd strategy
#4017 [16:37] * xolotl cannot wait for that term to die
#4017 [16:37] <xales> ^
#4018 [16:37] <Xerati> lol
#4019 [16:37] <xales> xolotl
#4020 [16:37] <xales> mind if I put you in my cloud?
#4021 [16:37] <Xerati> it's in there floating around
#4022 [16:37] <Xerati> somewheres
#4023 [16:37] <xolotl> xales: Only if we can be Wave buddies
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#4025 [16:38] <xales> (hey, at least it's not "emailing it to yourself" :< !!!!!!)
#4026 [16:38] <xolotl> teh waev clauds!
#4027 [16:38] <arensirb> Can you guys open minecraft.net?
#4028 [16:38] <xolotl> Okay, must actually accomplish things today
#4029 [16:38] * xolotl wanders off
#4029 [16:38] <wippler> arensirb: yes we can, you're the only one who can not
#4030 [16:38] <SheerCold> i can't
#4031 [16:39] <wippler> you didn't get the memo
#4032 [16:39] <wippler> use the damn TPS report
#4033 [16:39] <Xerati> lol
#4034 [16:39] <Taji34> i haven't had any problems with mcafee until now so it works fine with me, plus i should wait until i'm on my home network to do anything, i don't want to mess my new computer up.
#4035 [16:40] <Carmen> So did anyone have the link to the minecraft server? :S
#4036 [16:40] <xales> McAfee is messing it up =/
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#4038 [16:40] <wippler> Taji34: did you try getting a virus?
#4039 [16:40] <xales> Carmen: one sec, let me see if I can get it
#4040 [16:40] <Carmen> Okay
#4041 [16:40] <Taji34> ...
#4042 [16:40] <Taji34> fine.
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#4044 [16:41] <Taji34> but if this doesn't work . . .
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#4046 [16:41] <wippler> Taji34: you could come back and haunt our dreams
#4047 [16:41] <Fitzfactor> Hello?
#4048 [16:41] <wippler> Hi!
#4049 [16:41] <wippler> yes, MC down
#4050 [16:41] <Fitzfactor> Oh hey
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#4053 [16:41] <Fitzfactor> I'm gonna show you a video along with a question.
#4054 [16:41] <xales> Carmen: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1298394752263
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#4056 [16:42] <Carmen> <3
#4057 [16:42] <wippler> Fitzfactor: oh, that seems nice.
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#4059 [16:42] <xales> Taji34: if it doesn't work, at least you will have fixed some stuff with your computer, and eliminated something that is known to cause problems =/
#4060 [16:42] <SheerCold> I like gamefaqs' forums for minecraft
#4061 [16:42] <Fitzfactor> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRAAqyfFuHU ... how would this be possible?
#4062 [16:43] <SheerCold> the front page is basically "HELP CANT GET ON"
#4063 [16:43] <wippler> Taji34: Mc Affee is a piece of crap, just like Norton used to be a few years ago. You want a good AV for free with no ADs? Use the interwebs wisely: no porn, no warez, no MSN emoticons
#4064 [16:43] <xales> Fitzfactor: that's what happens when you try to copy a world over another one and cancel is
#4065 [16:43] <xales> cancel it*
#4066 [16:44] <Fitzfactor> Wait, what do you mean?
#4067 [16:44] <wippler> Fitzfactor: that is called a huge bug.
#4068 [16:45] <Fitzfactor> >.<
#4069 [16:45] <Fitzfactor> I know that.
#4070 [16:45] <Fitzfactor> I was curious on how the huge bug was made.
#4071 [16:45] <SheerCold> I consider not being able to play classic in multiplayer a huge bug
#4072 [16:45] <SheerCold> q_q
#4073 [16:45] <wippler> Fitzfactor: with buggy software and a bit of luck
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#4075 [16:46] <Xerati> Fitzfactor, that happened in one of the beta builds
#4076 [16:46] <Xerati> i had it on my maps as well
#4077 [16:46] <Xerati> it wasn't THAT apparent, but it was pretty obvious
#4078 [16:46] <Xerati> mine didn't run over a mountain range like that
#4079 [16:46] <Fitzfactor> So would that actually be someone else's world that he was exploring?
#4080 [16:47] <Xerati> no, it was his world
#4081 [16:47] <Xerati> same world even
#4082 [16:47] <Xerati> it was a glitch in the biome edges in beta 1.2 (i think, can't remember) that caused it
#4083 [16:47] <Fitzfactor> Oh ok, well anyway thanks for helping.
#4084 [16:47] <Xerati> i'm fairly certain it's fixed now
#4085 [16:48] <Fitzfactor> Maybe I'll see ya later.
#4086 [16:48] <wippler> Fitzfactor: but it is freaky I have to admit
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#4089 [16:50] <buckb123thatsme> Help PLease! I am trying to setup my minecraft server and when I try to use the "chomd a+x " command.... It says permission denied!!!
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#4091 [16:51] <Xerati> are you sudo'd?
#4092 [16:51] <buckb123thatsme> yes
#4093 [16:51] <Xerati> well, su'd
#4094 [16:51] <Xerati> uhh
#4095 [16:51] <Xerati> is the server running?
#4096 [16:51] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: ls -l on the file plz
#4097 [16:51] <buckb123thatsme> whaaa?
#4098 [16:51] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: type in the command maybe?
#4099 [16:51] <wippler> *typo
#4100 [16:51] <buckb123thatsme> okkk
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#4102 [16:52] <Xerati> lol
#4103 [16:52] <buckb123thatsme> still says permission denied
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#4105 [16:52] <Xerati> you can't ls -l?
#4106 [16:53] <Bob_Sack> i love how i got banned from #minecraft for having an autorejoiner when i didn't even know i did have one
#4107 [16:53] <Kealper> Bob_Sack: i doubt it's perminant
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#4109 [16:53] <Bob_Sack> prob not but i always get banned for ridiculous things there
#4110 [16:54] <Xerati> i got banned for being too hot
#4111 [16:54] <Kealper> Bob_Sack: it's just bad form to have an auto rejoin on kick script
#4112 [16:54] <Kealper> most irc channels kick for it
#4113 [16:54] <wippler> Xerati: like lava???
#4114 [16:54] <buckb123thatsme> wipper: I tried and It's not doing anything
#4115 [16:54] <Bob_Sack> idk i use mirc
#4116 [16:54] <Kealper> the ban is usually just a few seconds long to prevent you from rejoining
#4117 [16:54] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: which distrib?
#4118 [16:54] <xales> actually
#4119 [16:54] <xales> Visiiri banned him
#4120 [16:54] <xales> and Visiiri forgets to unset bans
#4121 [16:54] <xales> <.<
#4122 [16:54] <Kealper> and Bob_Sack you are unbanned in there
#4123 [16:55] <Kealper> :/
#4124 [16:55] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: I have no Idea...such a noob
#4125 [16:55] <Xerati> yeah
#4126 [16:55] <buckb123thatsme> i'm on a mac
#4127 [16:55] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: oh ok
#4128 [16:55] <Visiiri> I didn't forget to unban.
#4129 [16:55] <SnaKeFu> So could anyone help me set up .bat file for a tectonicus map?
#4130 [16:55] <Visiiri> You kicked him for trolling. He autorejoined and autotrolled.
#4131 [16:55] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: try "pwd"
#4132 [16:55] <Xerati> lol
#4133 [16:56] <Bob_Sack> lol wut
#4134 [16:56] <Xerati> autotrolled?
#4135 [16:56] <Bob_Sack> i didn't even know what was going on
#4136 [16:56] <Bob_Sack> my mirc started dinging and then i couldn't rejoin #minecraft
#4137 [16:56] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: it returned with "/Users/buck"
#4138 [16:56] <Kealper> autotrolling...i should make a module for aubot that autotrolls
#4139 [16:56] <xales> Kealper: I was actually going to suggest that :P
#4140 [16:56] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: ok, "ls" still returns nothing?
#4141 [16:56] <pico> autotrolling sounds fine
#4142 [16:57] <xales> Kealper: Use markov chains and make it learn how to troll :>
#4143 [16:57] <RF> mIRC Defaults to disabled for that setting, Go turn it off if I was you
#4144 [16:57] <Kealper> just randomly joins #minecraft and yells "MINECRAFT SUCKS!!" or something and then parts
#4145 [16:57] <Xerati> llooool
#4146 [16:57] <Kealper> xales: :o
#4147 [16:57] <xales> Kealper, nah, a bit more advanced than that :P
#4148 [16:57] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: It returns a bunch of stuff
#4149 [16:57] <xales> Kealper, like Shirka in #lobby
#4150 [16:57] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: can you see your file in that list?
#4151 [16:57] <Kealper> that stupid bot trolls even whne it's not trying lol
#4152 [16:57] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: ls=list, pwd=print working directory
#4153 [16:58] <Kealper> xales: so is that actually what it does to learn?
#4154 [16:58] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: I see the folder the file is in
#4155 [16:58] <Kealper> because i'd love to know how Shirka is programmed...it's probably rather complex lol
#4156 [16:58] <xales> Kealper, I believe Shirka uses Markov chains, yes
#4157 [16:58] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: cd folder_name
#4158 [16:58] <xales> Kealper, it learns what words go together and then builds a response from that
#4159 [16:59] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: ok
#4160 [16:59] <Kealper> not very sentient responses....at that...lol
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#4162 [16:59] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: then "ls" again
#4163 [16:59] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: and tell me if you see your file
#4164 [16:59] <buckb123thatsme> yes i see the file
#4165 [16:59] <Lorax> has an ETA for resolution been twittered?
#4166 [17:00] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: ls -l filename
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#4168 [17:00] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: ok
#4169 [17:00] <Kealper> gosh....my brain hurts trying to think of how to make something like Shirka
#4170 [17:00] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: copy paste the result plz
#4171 [17:01] <Kaito> im assuming im not the only one who cant log into minecraft right now?
#4172 [17:01] <buckb123thatsme> -rwxr-xr-x@ 1 buck staff 87 Feb 26 15:40 start.txt
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#4174 [17:01] <wippler> Kaito: nope, you are the only one
#4175 [17:01] <Kaito> D:
#4176 [17:01] <wippler> Kaito: sry, your life sucks
#4177 [17:01] <wippler> Kaito: nah, servers down
#4178 [17:01] <wippler> Kaito: a lot of people's life sucks right now
#4179 [17:01] <Lorax> *again*
#4180 [17:01] <wippler> Lorax: TROLOLOLOLOL
#4181 [17:01] <Kaito> okay, that makes me feel better
#4182 [17:02] <wippler> Kaito: you are not alone, we can share and embrace your pain brother.
#4183 [17:02] <Kaito> I wanna play!
#4184 [17:02] <Kaito> :P
#4185 [17:02] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: your file is ok for execution by user "buck"
#4186 [17:02] <Lorax> you can always go breed horses with mocreatures in single player
#4187 [17:03] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: so what now
#4188 [17:03] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: copy paste the content of your file on pastebin plz (link on bottom of this page)
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#4190 [17:03] <buckb123thatsme> im in colloquy, which page?
#4191 [17:03] <buckb123thatsme> i mean what is the url??
#4192 [17:04] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: pastebin.com then
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#4194 [17:05] <buckb123thatsme> http://pastebin.com/4M8jBfD2
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#4196 [17:05] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: try './test.txt'
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#4198 [17:06] <buckb123thatsme> instead of "test" should i put the name of the file??
#4199 [17:06] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: this is the name of your file
#4200 [17:06] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: oh sry, I mean start.xtx
#4201 [17:06] <buckb123thatsme> the name of my file is start and now it is doing a bunch of stuff
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#4203 [17:07] <buckb123thatsme> WHoa that worked
#4204 [17:07] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: you just launched Bukkit
#4205 [17:07] <nanotron> as anyone been able to get a portal to work in SMP?
#4206 [17:07] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: thanks... how can I save this as a command
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#4209 [17:07] <andResin> hey, minecraft is still down?
#4210 [17:08] <andResin> or no more?
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#4212 [17:08] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: well the only command you need is "path-of-start.txt/start.txt"
#4213 [17:08] <xales|telnet> WHEE telnet
#4214 [17:08] <Maulmauk> I assume still down, I can't get on <3
#4215 [17:08] <andResin> D:
#4216 [17:08] <andResin> :(
#4217 [17:08] <buckb123thatsme> okkkk
#4218 [17:08] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: "./start.txt" just man that "star.txt" is in the current directory ("./")
#4219 [17:09] <andResin> http://isminecraftdown.net/
#4220 [17:09] <andResin> it says minecraft is up
#4221 [17:09] <buckb123thatsme> ok
#4222 [17:09] <wippler> andResin: it's a lie
#4223 [17:09] <Bob_Sack> imcd fails
#4224 [17:09] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: congrats, you just upgraded both your Minecraft and your sysadmin skills :)
#4225 [17:10] <Bob_Sack> it's pretty much always wrong
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#4227 [17:12] <wippler> I'm quite new on MC, but did it use to be down that often in the past?
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#4229 [17:12] <Maulmauk> Nope, MC has grown tremendously in a short period of time
#4230 [17:12] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: waitttt when I'm in terminal, I type in "./start.txt" but it doesnt work
#4231 [17:12] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: "pwd" then
#4232 [17:12] <Maulmauk> lot of load on the servers. Provider's being a boss as well, can't keep their stuff up xD
#4233 [17:12] <Bob_Sack> mc has had probs like this for a long time
#4234 [17:13] <Maulmauk> correct?
#4235 [17:13] <Bob_Sack> at least since alpha
#4236 [17:13] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: not working
#4237 [17:13] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: I need the result
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#4239 [17:13] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: basically I need to know in whicj dir you are
#4240 [17:14] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: /Users/buck
#4241 [17:14] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: try "/USers/buck/path_of_start.txt/start.txt"
#4242 [17:15] <buckb123thatsme> wippler: Like this: "./Users/buck/craftbukkitserver/start.txt"
#4243 [17:15] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: without the leading "."
#4244 [17:15] <buckb123thatsme> ok
#4245 [17:16] <buckb123thatsme> ok, ther we go!
#4246 [17:16] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: of course, you can keep this command. It'll work wherever you are in your files architectur
#4247 [17:16] <wippler> e
#4248 [17:16] <wippler> a nice absolute path
#4249 [17:16] <buckb123thatsme> ok... Thank you sososososos much!!
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#4251 [17:17] <wippler> buckb123thatsme: np
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#4253 [17:18] <wippler> 'night guys
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#4257 [17:21] <faggey> Why does it say Response code 503 for URL: ... When i connect to my multiplayer server?
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#4259 [17:21] <Darcos> minecraft.net is down.
#4260 [17:21] <pico> cause it can
#4261 [17:21] <KA_Gamer> / mc.net/down
#4262 [17:21] <faggey> oh.
#4263 [17:21] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#4264 [17:21] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#4265 [17:21] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#4266 [17:22] <pico> u should change end of the last msg to "soon(tm)" :D
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#4268 [17:24] <KA_Gamer> !ismc.net down
#4269 [17:24] <KA_Gamer> oops
#4270 [17:24] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#4271 [17:24] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#4272 [17:24] <KA_Gamer> That's a wired way to word that command
#4273 [17:24] <TheNytangel> KA_Gamer, do you want to come to my server?
#4274 [17:24] <KA_Gamer> *weird
#4275 [17:24] <TheNytangel> it is offline mode
#4276 [17:25] <KA_Gamer> I'd like to look at it, sure.
#4277 [17:25] <TheNytangel> 69.65.43.33:27365
#4278 [17:25] <KA_Gamer> ok, thanks
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#4282 [17:28] <pwnus> Has this kind of drop happened before?
#4283 [17:29] <KA_Gamer> Yeah, it happens all the time.
#4284 [17:29] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#4285 [17:29] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#4286 [17:29] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
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#4289 [17:30] <Bob_Sack> soon in notch-time = 2 week vacationnn!
#4290 [17:32] <arensirb> dang, fix mcnet allready!
#4291 [17:32] <IRustyI> Okay guys, I have a problem with my minecraft. Ever since the 1.3 Beta update rolled out, my multiplayer is lagging profusely. I fall endlessly and anything I type in chat doesn't appear for me. This happens in any server. My friends tell me that they see me moving around when the world does manage to load bti by bit, and they can see everything I type in.
#4292 [17:32] <izzd> it's it still being attacked by hackers?
#4293 [17:33] <Maulmauk> lol?
#4294 [17:33] <Bob_Sack> no their webhosting server fails
#4295 [17:33] <IRustyI> It is not my internet, the speed is quite good, 70 ping in a lot of other servers across the country for other games.
#4296 [17:33] <Xerati> it's being attacked by regular users
#4297 [17:33] <IRustyI> 10 MBs dl 5 MBs Upload
#4298 [17:33] <Bob_Sack> since 1.3, chunks load incredibly slow
#4299 [17:33] <izzd> did it not go down at the weekend alot coz of hackers?
#4300 [17:33] <Bob_Sack> idk about the chat prob tho
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#4302 [17:33] <Xerati> it goes down a lot because of users
#4303 [17:34] <Xerati> the amount of users playing increased faster than the server capacity
#4304 [17:34] <IRustyI> I've tried re-updating. But to no avail
#4305 [17:34] <IRustyI> it works perfectly fine in Single player
#4306 [17:34] <izzd> just so many cuasing it to fail then?
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#4309 [17:34] <Xerati> if nobody tried logging in, anywhere in the world, then the server would be just fine
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#4311 [17:35] <Bob_Sack> sounds like a plan
#4312 [17:35] <RF> Well, if no-one tried, we wouldn't know for sure >.>
#4313 [17:35] <Xerati> kekeke
#4314 [17:35] <Xerati> and how would we check?
#4315 [17:35] <Xerati> by logging in!
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#4317 [17:35] <RF> IT would be the hypothetical cat in a box
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#4319 [17:35] <night98> is there any way to improve the lag on my mc server
#4320 [17:35] <RF> Yes, Find the cause of it
#4321 [17:36] <IRustyI> Bob do you have any ideas on how to fix my problem?
#4322 [17:36] <night98> ok
#4323 [17:36] <Xerati> improve lag?
#4324 [17:36] <Xerati> you want better lag?
#4325 [17:36] <arensirb> Anyone good with irssi here?
#4326 [17:36] <night98> no
#4327 [17:36] <arensirb> xDF
#4328 [17:36] <night98> i meant to say no lag
#4329 [17:36] <arensirb> Aha
#4330 [17:36] <Xerati> ^^
#4331 [17:36] <arensirb> Il google :P
#4332 [17:36] <Xerati> depends on your server specs/location/extra stuff loaded on the server
#4333 [17:37] <night98> ok
#4334 [17:37] <night98> how do i fly
#4335 [17:37] <arensirb> Can someone say my nick please? (Testing hightlight)
#4336 [17:37] <SevFTW> arensirb
#4337 [17:37] <arensirb> Thanks
#4338 [17:37] <SevFTW> no problem
#4339 [17:37] <pwnus> Asensirb: working?
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#4341 [17:37] <arensirb> You misspelled
#4342 [17:38] <arensirb> "Minecraft Login is DOWN!
#4343 [17:38] <pwnus> Damn
#4344 [17:38] <arensirb> dang :/
#4345 [17:38] <sdgs> Hi, one question. Is there any way to register for minecraft other than minecraft.net? since it's down?
#4346 [17:38] <arensirb> Heh
#4347 [17:38] <arensirb> Its a preview of what you can expect
#4348 [17:38] <arensirb> :)
#4349 [17:38] <pwnus> Why is it that the pirates are getting better service than us who paid?
#4350 [17:39] <Bob_Sack> expect 25% downtime
#4351 [17:39] <arensirb> lol
#4352 [17:39] <arensirb> 25%?
#4353 [17:39] <arensirb> 80% ?
#4354 [17:39] <night98> my server is up
#4355 [17:39] <Bob_Sack> i was being generous
#4356 [17:39] <arensirb> And people can log on?
#4357 [17:39] <arensirb> And you are _of course_ using online-mode?
#4358 [17:39] <night98> im nopt sure
#4359 [17:39] <relsqui> pwnus: because we paid for a game that's in beta; we signed up to test a buggy game. they merely hacked a buggy game.
#4360 [17:40] <night98> yes im lonline hehe
#4361 [17:40] <pwnus> I mean why does our ability to play stop when the server hiccups? We should just be able to play all the same
#4362 [17:40] <night98> all i need is users and i think im set for now
#4363 [17:41] <sdgs> Can someone tell me if i can register for minecraft right now, or do i have to wait for minecraft.net to get back up? (whenever that will be)
#4364 [17:42] <pwnus> U have to wait so far as I know
#4365 [17:42] <sdgs> aww :/
#4366 [17:42] <sdgs> bought the game for my gf earlier today, waited until now to buy it for myself.. and now we cant play lol :D
#4367 [17:43] <night98> :)
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#4370 [17:46] <Mandreas> Is the site down?
#4371 [17:46] <xales> yes
#4372 [17:46] <Mandreas> :[
#4373 [17:47] <arensirb> mcnet goes up and down :|
#4374 [17:47] <Mandreas> how long is it usually down for?
#4375 [17:48] <Bob_Sack> usually half a day or so
#4376 [17:48] <Bob_Sack> this time it'll prob go for 2 days
#4377 [17:48] <Mandreas> bleh.
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#4379 [17:48] <Bob_Sack> they're in gdc right now so we dont know if they can fix it in the US
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#4383 [17:48] <KA_Gamer> !isdown minecraft.net
#4384 [17:48] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#4385 [17:48] <xales> Bob_Sack: why would they be unable to?
#4386 [17:49] <xales> =/
#4387 [17:49] <sdgs> is there a alternate download source for it atleast?
#4388 [17:49] <IRustyI> Okay guys, I have a problem with my minecraft. Ever since the 1.3 Beta update rolled out, my multiplayer is lagging profusely. I fall endlessly and anything I type in chat doesn't appear for me. This happens in any server. My friends tell me that they see me moving around when the world does manage to load bti by bit, and they can see everything I type in.
#4389 [17:49] <IRustyI> Does anyone have any solutions to this?
#4390 [17:49] <IRustyI> Any helpful input?
#4391 [17:49] * geraldbrent [geraldbrent@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4392 [17:49] <KA_Gamer> Try turning some settiings down
#4393 [17:49] * Teh_Pwnz0r [Teh_Pwnz0r@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4394 [17:49] <xales> IRustyI: http://speedtest.net/ run that, click "direct link" and paste here
#4395 [17:49] <KA_Gamer> Like turn smooth lighting off.
#4396 [17:49] <xales> sdgs: yes
#4397 [17:49] <xales> .faq launcher
#4398 [17:49] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe?v=1298394752263
#4399 [17:49] <IRustyI> it is NOT computer related, single player works perfectly
#4400 [17:50] <xales> IRustyI: speedtest.net checks your connection speed :)
#4401 [17:50] <Mandreas> same thing happens with me rusty
#4402 [17:50] <CZ|Bago> maybe ur internet suck irusty
#4403 [17:50] <IRustyI> 10 mbs DL 5 MBS Upload
#4404 [17:50] <IRustyI> nah
#4405 [17:50] <Mandreas> if the site is down, would i work if i downloaded it?
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#4407 [17:50] <IRustyI> its good
#4408 [17:50] <Teh_Pwnz0r> Herobrine, is that a real link?
#4409 [17:50] <xales> IRustyI: check it anyway, for me
#4410 [17:50] <Teh_Pwnz0r> Or a virus?
#4411 [17:50] <xales> Teh_Pwnz0r: |Herobrine| is my bot, and it's the one from minecraft.net
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#4413 [17:50] <Teh_Pwnz0r> oh
#4414 [17:50] <Teh_Pwnz0r> Is it the real thing?
#4415 [17:51] <TheNytangel> yes
#4416 [17:51] <theunleeet> "Can't connect to Minecraft.net"
#4417 [17:51] <Teh_Pwnz0r> ok thx
#4418 [17:51] <Mandreas> would it let me play?
#4419 [17:51] <RF> Well done, you discovered copy and paste
#4420 [17:51] <theunleeet> anyone else having problems with the launcher
#4421 [17:51] <xales> theunleeet: minecraft.net is down, so yes
#4422 [17:51] <brokenshovel> minecraft.net has been down all day what gives?
#4423 [17:52] <theunleeet> figures
#4424 [17:52] <Mandreas> I was on it at around 11:30 am EST.
#4425 [17:52] <theunleeet> his server sploded i bet
#4426 [17:52] <CZ|Bago> Mandreas
#4427 [17:52] <Lauless> I have 3 ppl on my server...should be 30
#4428 [17:52] <CZ|Bago> it would let u play offline mode
#4429 [17:52] <Lauless> fu minecraft.net
#4430 [17:52] <theunleeet> but offline mode cannot do multiplayer
#4431 [17:52] <Teh_Pwnz0r> Where can you download offline mode?
#4432 [17:53] <Teh_Pwnz0r> Yeah, that's why its called offline mode.
#4433 [17:53] <CZ|Bago> minecraft.net ^-^
#4434 [17:53] <xales> Teh_Pwnz0r: you have to login once
#4435 [17:53] <xales> :P
#4436 [17:53] <Teh_Pwnz0r> I did
#4437 [17:53] <Mandreas> doesnt reallly matter the multiplayer i have is like 10 players lol
#4438 [17:53] <Teh_Pwnz0r> The button is greyed out
#4439 [17:53] <CZ|Bago> Offline mode sucks
#4440 [17:53] <xales> Teh_Pwnz0r: with the download client? it seems not
#4441 [17:53] <CZ|Bago> What is the meaning of building stuffs no one can see
#4442 [17:53] <Teh_Pwnz0r> I don't have a premium account
#4443 [17:53] <Mandreas> For fun
#4444 [17:54] <Teh_Pwnz0r> Is that the problem?
#4445 [17:54] <xales> Teh_Pwnz0r: yes
#4446 [17:54] <xales> you have to buy the game to play it
#4447 [17:54] <theunleeet> i like to build stuff that other people can see
#4448 [17:54] <xales> it's not free
#4449 [17:54] <Teh_Pwnz0r> I know that
#4450 [17:54] <xales> ok
#4451 [17:54] <Teh_Pwnz0r> I wanna play the old free version
#4452 [17:54] <xales> ah
#4453 [17:54] <xales> there is no download for that
#4454 [17:54] <Teh_Pwnz0r> Damn
#4455 [17:54] <Teh_Pwnz0r> ^.^
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#4457 [17:55] <KA_Gamer> hey krono
#4458 [17:55] <theunleeet> I want to add a Tablet computer to my Dashboard in my car.. and then minecraft while driving xD
#4459 [17:55] <Mandreas> lol
#4460 [17:55] <krono> hi
#4461 [17:55] <Teh_Pwnz0r> lolfail
#4462 [17:55] <Lauless> no can do theunleeet, minecraft.net is down
#4463 [17:55] <theunleeet> i know
#4464 [17:56] <Lauless> you do all that work and get cant connect message on your dashboard
#4465 [17:56] <RF> Minecraft while driving... wow that's retarded
#4466 [17:56] <Lauless> fu minecraft.net
#4467 [17:56] <Teh_Pwnz0r> How can we add bots? I haven't IRC'ed since '06
#4468 [17:56] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#4469 [17:56] <RF> You WANT to crash and kill people?
#4470 [17:56] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#4471 [17:56] <xales> Teh_Pwnz0r: "add bots"?
#4472 [17:56] <Mandreas> he doesnt WANT to
#4473 [17:56] <Teh_Pwnz0r> Y'know, bots
#4474 [17:56] <Mandreas> but if he HAS to...
#4475 [17:56] <Mandreas> For the sake of minecraft...
#4476 [17:56] <Mandreas> lol
#4477 [17:56] <xales> Teh_Pwnz0r: you would find or write a program that connects to IRC
#4478 [17:57] <Lauless> I have a CraftIRC bot :)
#4479 [17:57] <Teh_Pwnz0r> Dang
#4480 [17:57] <theunleeet> i want to crash into a hill and start tunneling
#4481 [17:57] <Lauless> but I can't log in to play :(
#4482 [17:57] <Teh_Pwnz0r> How are they scripted?
#4483 [17:57] <Mandreas> rofl
#4484 [17:57] <Teh_Pwnz0r> PHP?
#4485 [17:57] <theunleeet> My car will be a diamond pickaxe
#4486 [17:57] <xales> definately not with PHP..usually
#4487 [17:57] <Teh_Pwnz0r> xd
#4488 [17:57] <theunleeet> i thought it was PERL
#4489 [17:57] <xales> PHP isn't a great language for that
#4490 [17:57] <Lauless> your car will be cobble
#4491 [17:57] <Mandreas> My car would be a diamond shovel, so I win :D
#4492 [17:58] <xales> any language that can use sockets can do it
#4493 [17:58] <Lauless> busted smoothstone COBBLE
#4494 [17:58] <xales> my bot is written in C :P
#4495 [17:58] <theunleeet> the hill will be made out of rock so your shovel will fail
#4496 [17:58] <theunleeet> I have some bots in C
#4497 [17:58] <theunleeet> and one in PERL
#4498 [17:58] <Mandreas> my car would be like
#4499 [17:58] <Mandreas> 100000 megatons of tnt
#4500 [17:58] <Mandreas> xD
#4501 [17:59] <Mandreas> So much tnt that when minecraft tried to load it it would ragequit and implode... actually thats why the server is down right nwo
#4502 [17:59] <theunleeet> The server is probably down because his host is a retard
#4503 [17:59] <Lauless> it would crash before you got it started
#4504 [17:59] <Lauless> the server is down because someone used too much tnt
#4505 [17:59] <Mandreas> AKA me.
#4506 [17:59] <Bob_Sack> that was me, sorry guys
#4507 [17:59] <theunleeet> Do you know this for a fact?
#4508 [18:00] <Mandreas> I haxed and got 10000000000000000000000 tnt. rofl.
#4509 [18:00] * aetherian facepalms
#4509 [18:00] <Mandreas> minecraft is now all water.
#4510 [18:00] <Bob_Sack> pff i haxed and got 10000000000000000000001 tnt
#4511 [18:00] <aetherian> you only need 9001 tnt guys >..
#4512 [18:00] <Mandreas> oh dayum...
#4513 [18:00] <Mandreas> so it was you who broke it
#4514 [18:00] <Mandreas> guess im off the hook.
#4515 [18:00] <aetherian> uhh
#4516 [18:00] <aetherian> wait!
#4517 [18:00] <aetherian> not... not me!
#4518 [18:00] <Mandreas> ALL YO FAULT.
#4519 [18:01] <Mandreas> FIX SERVER NAO PLIZ.
#4520 [18:01] <theunleeet> I spawned 1 billion creeps and then poured lava on them... game Buffer Overflowed and killed the website.
#4521 [18:01] <Mandreas> Roflll
#4522 [18:01] <aetherian> so uh, why are we talking about this?
#4523 [18:01] <theunleeet> Why not?
#4524 [18:01] <theunleeet> Nothing else to do.
#4525 [18:01] <aetherian> wh- yes there is!
#4526 [18:01] <Mandreas> I nuked 100000000000000000 slimes who broke off int200000000000000 slimes who broke off into 4000000000000000000 slimes and so on.
#4527 [18:02] <aetherian> there's cool stuff to talk about
#4528 [18:02] <theunleeet> I guess I could go outside and wreck my R/C truck.
#4529 [18:02] <aetherian> theunleeet: how's the weather?
#4530 [18:02] <Mandreas> theres nothing to do here.
#4531 [18:02] <Mandreas> rainy.
#4532 [18:02] <CZ|Bago> snowy
#4533 [18:02] <theunleeet> Not too hot, not too cold.
#4534 [18:02] <Mandreas> like -10 degrees
#4535 [18:02] <theunleeet> 70 here.
#4536 [18:02] <CZ|Bago> 20
#4537 [18:02] <aetherian> there's nothing to do here. there's a big flaming ball of fire looming above us.
#4538 [18:02] <theunleeet> Although it tornado the other night
#4539 [18:02] <Mandreas> the sun?
#4540 [18:03] <Mandreas> o.O
#4541 [18:03] <lemon-rev> Mandreas=troll < underwater one at that
#4542 [18:03] <theunleeet> Solar Flares?
#4543 [18:03] <Mandreas> HAY
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#4545 [18:03] <Mandreas> I AM NOT A TROLL
#4546 [18:03] <Mandreas> >:[
#4547 [18:03] <aetherian> TROLL :O
#4548 [18:03] <lemon-rev> you sound like one
#4549 [18:03] <theunleeet> THEY SEE ME TROLLIN, MY CHATROOMS
#4550 [18:03] <Mandreas> rofl
#4551 [18:03] <aetherian> lemon-rev: heh. heh heh. heh heh heh.
#4552 [18:03] <lemon-rev> lol
#4553 [18:03] <Mandreas> I take offense to that, sir.
#4554 [18:03] <theunleeet> lemon-rev: HERP DURP
#4555 [18:03] <lemon-rev> durp
#4556 [18:03] <lemon-rev> well please do
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#4558 [18:04] <lemon-rev> offense or not , im not in mind to care
#4559 [18:04] <theunleeet> I take offense to the fact that you are calling someone else a troll :P
#4560 [18:04] <aetherian> lemon-rev: you sound like a troll now.
#4561 [18:04] <aetherian> =\
#4562 [18:04] <Mandreas> then why would you make the comment if you don';t care, good sir?
#4563 [18:04] <theunleeet> When infact you are trolling someone else to call them a TROLL
#4564 [18:04] <aetherian> oohhhhh
#4565 [18:04] <lemon-rev> well yea i know, aetherian if you have to hit a toll you have to be one too :P
#4566 [18:04] <Mandreas> OHHHH SNAPIZZLE.
#4567 [18:04] <Bob_Sack> having an opinion = being a troll
#4568 [18:04] <aetherian> kay then there's nothing to see here
#4569 [18:05] * aetherian plans to distract the people from the troll topic
#4569 [18:05] <Mandreas> being a troll = big ugly green fat thing living under a bridge?
#4570 [18:05] <Mandreas> xD
#4571 [18:05] <lemon-rev> depends on what you have to say there bob
#4572 [18:05] <aetherian> rooow rooow rooow your booaat, geeently dooown the streeeeeeaammm
#4573 [18:05] <theunleeet> Opinions are like assholes, we all have them, and you can all shove them :P
#4574 [18:05] <Mandreas> nononono
#4575 [18:05] <Mandreas> its
#4576 [18:05] <lemon-rev> anetherian i think is on a high
#4577 [18:05] <theunleeet> they all stink
#4578 [18:05] <theunleeet> i know
#4579 [18:05] <aetherian> meeerily meerily merily mer- life. is but. a dream.
#4580 [18:05] <Mandreas> yeah
#4581 [18:05] <Mandreas> ROW ROW ROW YOUR BOATG
#4582 [18:05] <aetherian> all together now
#4583 [18:05] <Mandreas> BOAT*
#4584 [18:06] <aetherian> row, row, row your boat
#4585 [18:06] <Mandreas> Tegan,
#4586 [18:06] <aetherian> gently down the stream
#4587 [18:06] <Mandreas> And
#4588 [18:06] <Mandreas> Sara.
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#4590 [18:06] <Mandreas> enough said.
#4591 [18:06] <theunleeet> SMOKE SMOKE SMOKE A TOKE
#4592 [18:06] <aetherian> merily, mreily, merily, mer- life. is but. a dream.
#4593 [18:06] <Mandreas> ROLL ROLL ROLL A BLUNT
#4594 [18:06] <qable> fucking hell, 'error code 503' still going on... been on ALL day
#4595 [18:06] <Mandreas> TWIST IT AT THE END
#4596 [18:06] <Mandreas> LIGHT IT UP
#4597 [18:06] <Mandreas> AND TAKE A PUFF
#4598 [18:06] <Mandreas> AND PASS IT TO YOUR FRIEND!
#4599 [18:06] <theunleeet> You would get a 404.
#4600 [18:06] <saschagehlich> has there been ANY info by the devs yet?
#4601 [18:06] <aetherian> yes?
#4602 [18:07] <theunleeet> What is a dev? I think he died :P
#4603 [18:07] <AceC> 500 servlet exeption no free connections :P
#4604 [18:07] <aetherian> aren't they changing hosts?
#4605 [18:07] <aetherian> ??< mc.net/hosting
#4606 [18:07] <aetherian> yup
#4607 [18:07] <xales> .mcserver
#4608 [18:07] <|Herobrine|> The issues with the servers powering minecraft.net are related to the hosting provider (Amazon), who can't even keep their customer control panel running.
#4609 [18:07] <|Herobrine|> Mojang is currently looking into moving to a new provider, but they want it done right, not fast
#4610 [18:07] <xales> \o/
#4611 [18:08] <theunleeet> good to know they chose a saturday to do it
#4612 [18:08] <aetherian> WHY DAMMIT
#4613 [18:08] <aetherian> we had enough bots >:
#4614 [18:09] <Mandreas> WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME NOTCH?
#4615 [18:09] <theunleeet> HostGator can have him up and running in no time... while he sits and waits for Amazon to fix his shit.
#4616 [18:09] <KA_Gamer> bots are good.
#4617 [18:09] <theunleeet> Amazon ran WikiLeaks
#4618 [18:09] <theunleeet> And they shut down his website
#4619 [18:09] * aetherian facepalms
#4619 [18:10] <Mandreas> Well, seeing as though mc.net is down, imma go eat shit and dream of what imma do when its back up
#4620 [18:10] <Mandreas> BAI EVERYBODY.
#4621 [18:10] <theunleeet> i think i will go crash my R/C truck at 80mph :P
#4622 [18:10] <aetherian> meh. ping if you need. I'll be over there.
#4623 [18:11] <theunleeet> :P
#4624 [18:12] <theunleeet> Maybe I will setup a screenstream, and have it continually refresh minecraft.net, and you can go to the link and see when it works xD
#4625 [18:12] <RF> or, instead of visiting your link, tabbing across each time, we could tab to minecraft.net in our browser and hit f5
#4626 [18:13] <theunleeet> i suppose
#4627 [18:13] <KA_Gamer> You guys are overreacting. Minecraft.net is down all the time. Find something else to do. Go on youtube and watch minecraft videos if your really bored. See if you learn something new. And if your really bored, try out a new method of surviving on single player. Or we could all get a life.. lol just messing with ya on the life part.
#4628 [18:13] <aetherian> *you're...
#4629 [18:13] <KA_Gamer> *sorry for minor sp, I'm sick, and mentally unhealthy.
#4630 [18:14] <theunleeet> I just dig into a mountain, close the whole, setup a starting room, and dig forever.
#4631 [18:14] <theunleeet> hole*
#4632 [18:14] <aetherian> well yes, you are a sick, sick man. also, of course you are mentally unhealthy
#4633 [18:14] <theunleeet> Found a cavern of Diamonds the other day.
#4634 [18:14] <KA_Gamer> *for the time being I mean, I'm not mentally unhealthy forever, just until I'm not sick.
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#4636 [18:15] <EmpiresBane> so... windows installed to my D: drive
#4637 [18:15] <theunleeet> .....good job
#4638 [18:15] <EmpiresBane> this explains quite a bit
#4639 [18:15] <Xerati> pro
#4640 [18:15] <EmpiresBane> like why i only have have 30GB
#4641 [18:16] <KA_Gamer> Hello EmpiresBane, its boring here, just warning.
#4642 [18:16] <theunleeet> Would you like a youtube video on how to properly install windows? i bet there are like 45450650 of them
#4643 [18:16] <EmpiresBane> that's ok
#4644 [18:16] <EmpiresBane> theunleeet, this is not my first time installing windows
#4645 [18:16] <KA_Gamer> I'll make one, and make the others look like trash. Yeah, sure I will XD
#4646 [18:16] <theunleeet> I think I will boot up my old "Portable" with DOS
#4647 [18:17] <theunleeet> 32mb harddrive, WOOT
#4648 [18:17] <EmpiresBane> gr...
#4649 [18:17] <EmpiresBane> i need format my other hard drive now
#4650 [18:17] <theunleeet> fdisk
#4651 [18:17] <EmpiresBane> then move steam over to it
#4652 [18:18] <RF> Hmm, it appears intermittent atm
#4653 [18:18] <theunleeet> it might corrupt steam data trying to copy it to a new drive
#4654 [18:18] <RF> Looks like some of the saturday afternoon strain is lowering
#4655 [18:18] <EmpiresBane> it can
#4656 [18:18] <EmpiresBane> you just have to make sure you only move certain folders
#4657 [18:18] <RF> I have a 44mb harddrive somewhere
#4658 [18:19] <RF> It weighs more than my current gaming system
#4659 [18:19] <theunleeet> oh this is an old "Portable"
#4660 [18:19] <theunleeet> weighs more than a small TV.
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#4662 [18:19] <theunleeet> old monochromatic screen
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#4664 [18:19] <KA_Gamer> Welcome back, nipper.
#4665 [18:19] <nipper> ekk
#4666 [18:19] <nipper> was dced
#4667 [18:20] <KA_Gamer> Randomly. That's not frustratin.
#4668 [18:20] <KA_Gamer> *Randomly?
#4669 [18:22] <theunleeet> Woot, I am going for Japanese food.
#4670 [18:22] <KA_Gamer> I love Japan.
#4671 [18:22] <theunleet|FOOD> I will be stationed there someday
#4672 [18:22] <KA_Gamer> Good luck there.
#4673 [18:23] <theunleet|FOOD> United States Navy.
#4674 [18:23] <KA_Gamer> Thank you.
#4675 [18:24] <theunleet|FOOD> I love my country so therefore I will defend it from dumb Somolian Pirates
#4676 [18:24] <theunleet|FOOD> bbl
#4677 [18:24] <KA_Gamer> Take em down hard!
#4678 [18:24] <theunleet|FOOD> Yes.
#4679 [18:24] <theunleet|FOOD> We actually boarded the Yacht and stabbed one of the Pirates after they killed those 4 travelers
#4680 [18:25] <theunleet|FOOD> ok now bbl
#4681 [18:25] <KA_Gamer> Interesting...(ps: I'm a MOTHERtard [if you don't know what I'm talking about go here: http://starmen.net])
#4682 [18:26] <KA_Gamer> oops *http://starmen.net
#4683 [18:28] * geraldbrent is away: Dinner
#4683 [18:28] <KA_Gamer> Wow, I was expecting a bunch of trolling for saying that.
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#4685 [18:28] <Jiggler> can anyone get me the Bin folder
#4686 [18:29] <Jiggler> i screwed up a mod
#4687 [18:29] <Xerati> what OS?
#4688 [18:29] <Jiggler> win7
#4689 [18:29] <Jiggler> i was installing a mod
#4690 [18:29] <Jiggler> screwed up
#4691 [18:29] <Xerati> windowskey+R
#4692 [18:29] <Xerati> type %appdata%
#4693 [18:29] <Jiggler> i know how
#4694 [18:29] <Xerati> oh
#4695 [18:29] <Xerati> you want it back?
#4696 [18:29] <Jiggler> yeah
#4697 [18:29] <Xerati> uhh
#4698 [18:29] <Jiggler> and
#4699 [18:29] <xales> delete it
#4700 [18:29] <EmpiresBane> if you use the new launcher you can force an redownload of all folders
#4701 [18:29] <Jiggler> minecraft is down
#4702 [18:29] <Xerati> run minecra
#4703 [18:29] <Xerati> xD
#4704 [18:29] <EmpiresBane> oh yeah
#4705 [18:29] <xales> Jiggler: if you use the new launcher
#4706 [18:29] <xales> you can download it
#4707 [18:29] <Xerati> really?
#4708 [18:29] <xales> the download for stuff isn't on minecraft.net
#4709 [18:29] <xales> yes
#4710 [18:29] <Xerati> :D
#4711 [18:30] <Jiggler> let me screenie
#4712 [18:30] <EmpiresBane> it's right next to your login
#4713 [18:30] <EmpiresBane> choose options, then "Force Update!"
#4714 [18:30] <Jiggler> i deleted the bin folder, becuase thats the only way it would redownload the minecraft.jar
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#4718 [18:31] <EmpiresBane> <EmpiresBane> if you use the new launcher you can force an redownload of all folders
#4719 [18:31] <Wahrheit> !isdown minecraft.net
#4720 [18:31] <GreyBot> Wahrheit: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#4721 [18:31] <Wahrheit> =/
#4722 [18:31] <Jiggler> thats why
#4723 [18:31] <TheNytangel> lol
#4724 [18:32] <EmpiresBane> i just did it...
#4725 [18:32] <TheNytangel> i blew my sister up and she got mad
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#4727 [18:32] <Jiggler> http://imgur.com/DJ1iF.png
#4728 [18:32] <TheNytangel> Wahrheit: 69.65.43.33:27365 <-- can play in offline mode
#4729 [18:32] <EmpiresBane> just log in, the files are hosted on a different server
#4730 [18:32] <Wahrheit> TheNytangel: Didn't ask
#4731 [18:32] <TheNytangel> :P
#4732 [18:32] <xales> Jiggler: use the new launcher
#4733 [18:33] <EmpiresBane> are you using the new launcher?
#4734 [18:33] <Wahrheit> Trying to get my own users able to og in
#4735 [18:33] <Wahrheit> *log
#4736 [18:33] <Jiggler> where do i download it?
#4737 [18:33] <Jiggler> minecraft.net is down
#4738 [18:33] <Wahrheit> Could be less fucked about someone else's
#4739 [18:33] <Xerati> xales, still have the link?
#4740 [18:33] <TheNytangel> want help..
#4741 [18:33] <xales> .faq launcher
#4742 [18:33] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe?v=1298394752263
#4743 [18:33] <TheNytangel> never mind
#4744 [18:33] <xales> ^there
#4745 [18:33] <Xerati> schweet
#4746 [18:33] <Xerati> .faq server
#4747 [18:33] <xales> nope
#4748 [18:33] <Xerati> dude...
#4749 [18:33] <Jiggler> ty
#4750 [18:33] <Xerati> add!
#4751 [18:33] <xales> .faqadd server https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1298394752263
#4752 [18:33] <|Herobrine|> Saved server as https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1298394752263
#4753 [18:33] <arensirb> For some reason starting MC creates echo on linux
#4754 [18:33] <Xerati> jackpot!
#4755 [18:33] <arensirb> anyone know why?
#4756 [18:33] <Wahrheit> TheNytangel: I know I could set it offline, but integrity is more important than accessibility
#4757 [18:33] <xales> arensirb: get better sound driver? =/
#4758 [18:34] <arensirb> :|
#4759 [18:34] <EmpiresBane> Wahrheit, you could create a backup
#4760 [18:34] <xales> arensirb: what distro?
#4761 [18:34] <arensirb> ubuntu
#4762 [18:34] <arensirb> x64
#4763 [18:34] <EmpiresBane> allow them to play until it's back up
#4764 [18:34] <KA_Gamer> !isdown minecraft.net
#4765 [18:34] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#4766 [18:34] <Wahrheit> EmpiresBane: 200MB Backup takes too long torestore for it to be worth it
#4767 [18:34] <Wahrheit> http://map.summaxr.com/
#4768 [18:34] <KA_Gamer> Hey would this work:
#4769 [18:34] <Wahrheit> as of this past Monday
#4770 [18:34] <KA_Gamer> !isdown youtube.com
#4771 [18:34] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's just you. http://youtube.com is up.
#4772 [18:35] <KA_Gamer> Neat.
#4773 [18:35] <EmpiresBane> it shouldn't take to long
#4774 [18:35] <arensirb> !isdown 127.0.0.1
#4775 [18:35] <arensirb> oops :P
#4776 [18:35] <Wahrheit> LOL
#4777 [18:35] <Wahrheit> LOOOOL
#4778 [18:35] <arensirb> :D
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#4780 [18:35] <Wahrheit> I don't know if those were related
#4781 [18:35] <Wahrheit> but that was funny
#4782 [18:35] <arensirb> haha
#4783 [18:35] <arensirb> : P
#4784 [18:35] <EmpiresBane> it's so easy to press ctrl+q instead of ctrl+a....
#4785 [18:35] <Wahrheit> hahahahahhahaha
#4786 [18:35] <Xerati> lol
#4787 [18:36] <Wahrheit> "isdown 127.0.0.1"
#4788 [18:36] <arensirb> :D
#4789 [18:36] <Wahrheit> "EmpiresBane Quit)
#4790 [18:36] <Wahrheit> :
#4791 [18:36] <Wahrheit> "
#4792 [18:36] <Wahrheit> so fanny
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#4794 [18:36] <KA_Gamer> *funny?
#4795 [18:36] <Xerati> it's so damn cold
#4796 [18:36] <Wahrheit> Singaporean accent
#4797 [18:36] <Wahrheit> inside joke etc
#4798 [18:37] <AndrewPH> !isdown localhost
#4799 [18:37] <AndrewPH> wololo
#4800 [18:37] <Xerati> !isdown smp.xerati.net
#4801 [18:37] <GreyBot> Xerati: It's not just you! http://smp.xerati.net looks down from here.
#4802 [18:37] <Xerati> oops
#4803 [18:37] <Wahrheit> rofl
#4804 [18:37] <Xerati> !check smp.xerati.net
#4805 [18:37] <arensirb> xales: This is the soundcard Im using atm: card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
#4806 [18:37] <Xerati> !isdown 127.4.2.1
#4807 [18:37] <Xerati> clevar!
#4808 [18:38] <arensirb> xales: : btw, closing java fixes it
#4809 [18:38] <xales> arensirb: no idea =/
#4810 [18:38] <xales> hey Xerati
#4811 [18:38] <xales> see if you can use the .faq thing now
#4812 [18:38] <Xerati> .faq me
#4813 [18:38] <Xerati> kekeke
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#4815 [18:38] <Xerati> .faq server
#4816 [18:39] <xales> :<
#4817 [18:39] <xales> .faq server
#4818 [18:39] <xales> =/
#4819 [18:39] <Xerati> rofl
#4820 [18:39] <EmpiresBane> how do you disable greybot?
#4821 [18:39] <TheNytangel> .faq server
#4822 [18:39] <Xerati> .faq launcher
#4823 [18:39] <TheNytangel> .faqserver
#4824 [18:39] <Xerati> is it broked?
#4825 [18:39] <TheNytangel> lol
#4826 [18:39] <Xerati> i'm think it's broked
#4827 [18:39] <Xerati> pretty sure it's broked
#4828 [18:39] <Xerati> yeah, it's broked
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#4831 [18:40] <xales> .faq server
#4832 [18:40] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1298394752263
#4833 [18:40] <xales> hahaha
#4834 [18:40] <xales> your failed faq
#4835 [18:40] <GV> EmpiresBane - Why do you want to disable greybot?
#4836 [18:40] <xales> triggered the flood protection =/
#4837 [18:41] <xales> anyway
#4838 [18:41] <GV> Ah
#4839 [18:41] <xales> that stuff is mostly for #minecraft
#4840 [18:41] <xales> we have VoxelHead in here! :D
#4841 [18:41] <EmpiresBane> don't want to, just in case people start overusing it
#4842 [18:41] <GV> Just kickbab
#4843 [18:41] <GV> ban*
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#4845 [18:42] <Lauless> I need help
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#4847 [18:42] <TobeMan> Hi all!
#4848 [18:42] <Lauless> I can't log in :(
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#4850 [18:42] <TobeMan> Lauless: the server is down
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#4852 [18:43] <Lauless> yes....is there an official word?
#4853 [18:43] <Lauless> been down most of today, no?
#4854 [18:43] <KA_Gamer> ??> Lauless mc.net down
#4855 [18:43] <TobeMan> yeah so it seems
#4856 [18:43] <Livity> about 6 hours now
#4857 [18:43] <Livity> or more
#4858 [18:43] <Livity> 6-8
#4859 [18:43] <TobeMan> I also have a couple of questions...
#4860 [18:43] <KA_Gamer> ??> Lauless mc.net/down
#4861 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Lauless: (mc.net/down) Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#4862 [18:43] <GV> TobeMan - Shoot
#4863 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Lauless: (mc.net/down) Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#4864 [18:44] <Lauless> is it down?
#4865 [18:44] <Wahrheit> YES
#4866 [18:44] <TobeMan> First off: What server software do you reckommend?
#4867 [18:44] <trollnjn> so..how many millions are needed to fix the 503?
#4868 [18:44] <Lauless> lol
#4869 [18:44] <Lauless> how about the website??
#4870 [18:44] <Livity> Tobe, the offical software is working fine.
#4871 [18:44] <Wahrheit> trollnjn: It's more about efficient coding.
#4872 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> TobeMan - We can only recommend the original software.
#4873 [18:44] <Wahrheit> Lauless: Same shiz.
#4874 [18:44] <Livity> And it's always the first which is updated
#4875 [18:44] <TobeMan> yeah... true ok...
#4876 [18:44] * Lauless is annoyed
#4876 [18:45] <KA_Gamer> ?? mods
#4877 [18:45] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#4878 [18:45] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#4879 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> trollnjn mc.net/hosting
#4880 [18:45] <VoxelHead> trollnjn: (mc.net/hosting) Since migrating over to Amazon's EC2 cloud, the cluster servers for minecraft.net have been under impressive strain. It has continually buckled under the pressure of registering users, authenticating clients, crediting accounts, providing custom skin content, maintaining a classic server directory, as well as providing a front-end website for users.
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#4882 [18:45] <VoxelHead> trollnjn: (mc.net/hosting) This is clearly not intended and Mojang is working on a new server arrangement, but is ensuring that it's done properly and not just quickly as was the move to Amazon.
#4883 [18:45] <TobeMan> question number tqo...
#4884 [18:45] <TobeMan> can i download the official server softwar anywhere else except mc.net? :)
#4885 [18:45] <Diablothein> Was ist Liebe!
#4886 [18:45] <Diablothein> Baby tut mir nicht weh! Tut mir nicht weh! Nicht mehr!
#4887 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> TobeMan - Nope.
#4888 [18:46] <Livity> Ofc, if you trust someone enough that he sends it.
#4889 [18:46] <KA_Gamer> Yeah, I think so TobeMan, hang on.
#4890 [18:46] <TobeMan> shoot :) I had it earlier today but for some reason i deleted it
#4891 [18:46] <Livity> but I don't know any other way :P
#4892 [18:46] <TobeMan> ok KA_Gamer :)
#4893 [18:46] <KA_Gamer> Server:https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1298394752263
#4894 [18:46] <Livity> gamer.. is that 1.3?
#4895 [18:47] <xales> GreyVulpine: I have the S3 links that minecraft.net sends to
#4896 [18:47] <xales> .faq server
#4897 [18:47] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1298394752263
#4898 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#4899 [18:47] <EmpiresBane> i really hope that steam doesn't fail when i move it
#4900 [18:47] <KA_Gamer> .faq client
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#4902 [18:47] <xales> EmpiresBane: just copy the entire folder, and install into it
#4903 [18:47] <xales> KA_Gamer: it's launcher actually
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#4905 [18:47] <xales> .faq launcher
#4906 [18:47] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe?v=1298394752263
#4907 [18:47] <xales> DopeGhoti: you should add those to VoxelHead, I'm lazy
#4908 [18:47] <KA_Gamer> Thanks xales.
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#4910 [18:48] <EmpiresBane> actually, you only copy the .exe and /steamapps
#4911 [18:48] <Hypertypical> Hello
#4912 [18:48] <Hypertypical> Anybody here?
#4913 [18:48] <xales> EmpiresBane: you can copy the whole folder
#4914 [18:48] <KA_Gamer> Hey, got a question.
#4915 [18:48] <EmpiresBane> that way it forces it to change all the settings for the new location
#4916 [18:48] <xales> Hypertypical: Nope! what can we help you with?
#4917 [18:48] <TobeMan> KA_Gamer: thank you soo much! :)
#4918 [18:48] <Hypertypical> I bought this game the day 1.3 cam out
#4919 [18:48] <KA_Gamer> Your welcome TobeMan.
#4920 [18:48] <Hypertypical> i paid money for it
#4921 [18:48] <EmpiresBane> hm, well, i copy less this way
#4922 [18:48] <Hypertypical> Why can I never play multiplayer...
#4923 [18:48] <KA_Gamer> Yeah...
#4924 [18:49] <xales> ?? mc.net/hosting
#4925 [18:49] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: Since migrating over to Amazon's EC2 cloud, the cluster servers for minecraft.net have been under impressive strain. It has continually buckled under the pressure of registering users, authenticating clients, crediting accounts, providing custom skin content, maintaining a classic server directory, as well as providing a front-end website for users.
#4926 [18:49] <TobeMan> KA_Gamer: I have been looking everywhere :P
#4927 [18:49] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: This is clearly not intended and Mojang is working on a new server arrangement, but is ensuring that it's done properly and not just quickly as was the move to Amazon.
#4928 [18:49] <xales> ^that, Hypertypical
#4929 [18:49] <Hypertypical> What is Amazons EC2 cloud?
#4930 [18:49] <Bob_Sack> but the amazon move took forever
#4931 [18:49] <Hypertypical> Amazon the shopping website?
#4932 [18:49] <Bob_Sack> so this will take even longer?
#4933 [18:49] <jeeva> lol
#4934 [18:49] <xales> Hypertypical: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2
#4935 [18:49] <jeeva> no offence
#4936 [18:49] <jeeva> but if you dont know Cloud computing from amazon
#4937 [18:50] <Wahrheit> AW HECK.
#4938 [18:50] <jeeva> what are you doing on the internet then
#4939 [18:50] <EmpiresBane> jeeva, that's a dumb question
#4940 [18:50] * Wahrheit just accidentally closed his open client thus severing the last remaining connection to his server.... SAjnldkjanslkajsdlkjs
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#4941 [18:50] <EmpiresBane> it's not like the internet runs on it
#4942 [18:50] <jeeva> on amazon & OVH
#4943 [18:50] <jeeva> pretty much yes
#4944 [18:50] <jeeva> most of the internet
#4945 [18:50] <jeeva> :P
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#4947 [18:50] <EmpiresBane> and do you think most people care about that?
#4948 [18:51] <jeeva> you see me care ?
#4949 [18:51] <jeeva> and btw, i didn't ask a question
#4950 [18:51] <SevFTW> minecraft.net down for anyone else?
#4951 [18:51] <jeeva> i answered one
#4952 [18:51] <EmpiresBane> <jeeva> what are you doing on the internet then
#4953 [18:51] <Hypertypical> At $350,000 a day, you'd think they'd be able to find reliable servers pretty quickly..
#4954 [18:51] <jeeva> EmpiresBane: define: rhetorical
#4955 [18:51] <SevFTW> Yeah...
#4956 [18:52] <jeeva> Hypertypical: the guy is a coder
#4957 [18:52] <xales> Hypertypical: that's what they did with amazon. they are making sure it works before actually moving everything to it
#4958 [18:52] <xales> it could be much worse than it is now
#4959 [18:52] <jeeva> they have no clue about infrastructure upkeep
#4960 [18:52] <EmpiresBane> it's not like they can use all that money on server hosting
#4961 [18:52] <xales> ^
#4962 [18:52] <KA_Gamer> ??> SevFTW mc.net/hosting
#4963 [18:52] <Hypertypical> they can use a lot though..
#4964 [18:52] <jeeva> he should have firstly invested in some network techi's
#4965 [18:52] <VoxelHead> SevFTW: (mc.net/hosting) Since migrating over to Amazon's EC2 cloud, the cluster servers for minecraft.net have been under impressive strain. It has continually buckled under the pressure of registering users, authenticating clients, crediting accounts, providing custom skin content, maintaining a classic server directory, as well as providing a front-end website for users.
#4966 [18:52] <VoxelHead> SevFTW: (mc.net/hosting) This is clearly not intended and Mojang is working on a new server arrangement, but is ensuring that it's done properly and not just quickly as was the move to Amazon.
#4967 [18:52] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#4968 [18:52] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#4969 [18:52] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#4970 [18:52] <xales> jeeva: and Mojang is in fact, a company. he has several employees, two are dedicated to the infrastructure
#4971 [18:52] <jeeva> xales: i know
#4972 [18:53] <KA_Gamer> There you go SevFTW.
#4973 [18:53] <jeeva> but thanks for the useless info
#4974 [18:53] <Hypertypical> lol
#4975 [18:53] <Hypertypical> i sit here pressing connect for hours every day...
#4976 [18:53] <jeeva> if they knew about anything
#4977 [18:53] <aetherian> something has happened!
#4978 [18:53] <jeeva> they would have mirrored the auth servers globally
#4979 [18:53] <jeeva> EU, UK, USA
#4980 [18:54] <aetherian> xales: then... you're kicking me out?
#4981 [18:54] <xales> jeeva: it seems it is you, who knows nothing about cloud computing
#4982 [18:54] <aetherian> This isn't the complain channel D:
#4983 [18:54] <KA_Gamer> Can you put in the subject mc.net is down.
#4984 [18:54] <xales> do not blame others for ignorance when you yourself are mor ignorant
#4985 [18:54] <xales> more*
#4986 [18:54] <jeeva> lol
#4987 [18:54] <SevFTW> Okay :P
#4988 [18:54] <jeeva> yeah i know nothing ...
#4989 [18:54] <Hypertypical> Why isn't there a limit to the number of connections to the minecraft server? And when that limit is reached players connect to a second server?
#4990 [18:54] <jeeva> all my cisco & juniper & B.comm IT was for nothing
#4991 [18:54] <xales> Hypertypical: it would have the same problem
#4992 [18:55] <xales> it's already doing that, sort of
#4993 [18:55] <xales> with much more than just two
#4994 [18:55] <RF> It's cloud
#4995 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> jeeva - This is #MineCraftHelp. If you're here to just whine, I'd recommend leaving.
#4996 [18:55] <jeeva> where do you see me whine ?
#4997 [18:55] <jeeva> fail observation
#4998 [18:55] <Hypertypical> so is it on amazon ec2 at the moment or is it transferring to it soon?
#4999 [18:55] <RF> the load is distributed across a whole network of servers
#5000 [18:55] <xales> Hypertypical: it is now, and that is the problem =/
#5001 [18:55] <RF> on it atm
#5002 [18:56] <Hypertypical> xales, why dont they move back to how it was before
#5003 [18:56] <xales> Hypertypical: it was worse then
#5004 [18:56] <jeeva> what type of cloud package are they using ?
#5005 [18:56] <Hypertypical> og
#5006 [18:56] <EmpiresBane> that would be worse
#5007 [18:56] <jeeva> per cycle or per server/bw ?
#5008 [18:56] <Hypertypical> or have different servers for auth and the like
#5009 [18:56] <EmpiresBane> they do
#5010 [18:56] <Hypertypical> well they need more
#5011 [18:56] <Bob_Sack> or get rid of the auth all together
#5012 [18:56] <EmpiresBane> ...
#5013 [18:56] <Hypertypical> or better ones..
#5014 [18:56] <KA_Gamer> Jeeva means this: MINECRAFT.NET is DOWN. Boo-hoo. Now stop bitching about how the mc server sucks and leave if that's all you'll talk about.
#5015 [18:56] <Bob_Sack> servers can already set offline mode to let pirates in, so why even have an auth server
#5016 [18:57] <jeeva> KA_Gamer: i hardly play MC, i just host a bunch of servers
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#5018 [18:57] <jeeva> so i'm not upset :P
#5019 [18:57] <Hypertypical> even if i try to get a refund for this game i cant
#5020 [18:57] <jeeva> its just a game
#5021 [18:57] <xales> Bob_Sack: for the people who don't want the pirates on their server?
#5022 [18:57] <Hypertypical> because mc.net is down..
#5023 [18:57] <jeeva> auth servers are better than EA anyway
#5024 [18:57] <jeeva> Autolog is forever down
#5025 [18:57] <xales> Hypertypical: just be patient for a few days, and you will be able to play
#5026 [18:57] <jeeva> compared to MC
#5027 [18:57] <aetherian> failbot
#5028 [18:57] <Hypertypical> They should just do whatever Blizzard does with WoW
#5029 [18:57] <RF> Hypertypical: You paid for the game, You have the game, Play single player perhaps
#5030 [18:57] <Hypertypical> because that seems to work pretty well...
#5031 [18:57] <xales> Hypertypical: they don't have that much money
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#5033 [18:58] <EmpiresBane> Hypertypical, this sort of thing takes time to do right
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#5035 [18:58] <nipper> Not tring to be mean, But how long will the auth servers be down?
#5036 [18:58] <KA_Gamer> How can a bot leave?
#5037 [18:58] <EmpiresBane> you don't just snap your fingers and servers work
#5038 [18:58] <xales> nipper: until they fix it
#5039 [18:58] <nipper> lol
#5040 [18:58] <EmpiresBane> they go up and down
#5041 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Hypertypical - Do you think WoW servers had enough capacity when it first came out?
#5042 [18:58] <nipper> Thoght moving the server was spose to fix it :*(
#5043 [18:58] <xales> KA_Gamer: A bot is just another client, that instead of waiting for a user to enter something, reads the messages itself and automatically responds
#5044 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Here's a quick answer, No. It didn't.
#5045 [18:58] <EmpiresBane> it was, and did
#5046 [18:58] <xales> nipper: hasn't moved yet
#5047 [18:58] <nipper> lol
#5048 [18:59] <Hypertypical> why is notch at GDC instead of organising servers?
#5049 [18:59] <Hypertypical> Are people at GDC helping?
#5050 [18:59] <nipper> I'm just playing around. I know they will work when they work and there is never a ETA.
#5051 [18:59] <KA_Gamer> I know, but how would a bot leave and come back to a channel.
#5052 [18:59] <Hypertypical> it just does
#5053 [18:59] <xales> KA_Gamer: it automatically reconnects itself because it timed out
#5054 [18:59] <xales> or whatever
#5055 [18:59] <KA_Gamer> Oh, ok.
#5056 [19:00] <Hypertypical> Why is Notch at GDC?
#5057 [19:00] <jeeva> how big is a MC world ?
#5058 [19:00] <gothroach> Why wouldn't he be, Hypertypical?
#5059 [19:00] <xales> jeeva: it gets bigger as you explore it
#5060 [19:00] <EmpiresBane> Hypertypical, would uou stop whining, the game is in beta
#5061 [19:00] <RF> |<--- This Big --> | (not to scale)
#5062 [19:00] <gothroach> It IS the Game Developers Conference....
#5063 [19:00] <EmpiresBane> the fact that it "works" is amazing
#5064 [19:00] <jeeva> so it has no circumference?
#5065 [19:00] <Lauless> my old map on my server 550MB
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#5067 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> jeeva - No
#5068 [19:00] <jeeva> sux
#5069 [19:00] <KA_Gamer> The mc map is about 8x the size of earth.
#5070 [19:01] <EmpiresBane> the surface area of earth
#5071 [19:01] <EmpiresBane> not size
#5072 [19:01] <Hypertypical> yo mama 8x the size of earth
#5073 [19:01] <Hypertypical> lol, oj
#5074 [19:01] <Hypertypical> probably...
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#5076 [19:01] <gothroach> jeeva: The maximum size is a square, I believe.
#5077 [19:01] <Hypertypical> so is amazon ec2 good or bad?
#5078 [19:01] <gothroach> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/422515389/clearing-up-the-world-size-math
#5079 [19:01] <RF> worked out with rough calculations that it'd take about a year and a half nonstop to walk to the edge of the map from the center
#5080 [19:01] <gothroach> Hypertypical: Very good, depending completely on how you use it.
#5081 [19:01] <RF> at standard walk speed
#5082 [19:02] <jeeva> thanks
#5083 [19:02] <Hypertypical> so Mojang isnt using amazon ec2 very well?
#5084 [19:02] <EmpiresBane> oh dear, i'm on one of those old computers where you can still hear the computer working
#5085 [19:02] <EmpiresBane> and that does not sound good
#5086 [19:02] <RF> "hear the computer working"
#5087 [19:02] <Hypertypical> mine is like that
#5088 [19:02] <RF> That could mean the fans are running to the HD is dying
#5089 [19:02] <Hypertypical> lots of clicking
#5090 [19:03] <jeeva> how long will it take to walk from one corner of the map to the other corner ?
#5091 [19:03] <RF> vaguest statement i've heard all day
#5092 [19:03] <Hypertypical> my computer farts when you turn it on...
#5093 [19:03] <EmpiresBane> it's a computer from 2001
#5094 [19:03] <EmpiresBane> it's not the fan
#5095 [19:03] <RF> Right, so the HD is highly active then
#5096 [19:03] <EmpiresBane> yeah
#5097 [19:03] <EmpiresBane> seems to be a little over-active...
#5098 [19:03] <RF> Defrag
#5099 [19:03] <EmpiresBane> starting to woory me
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#5101 [19:03] <gothroach> Hypertypical: I don't think that Mojang is using EC2 optimally, no.
#5102 [19:03] <jeeva> (Statistics) Written characters: 5,847,902 (20.8 per line, 5.1 per word, 2.2 character(s) per minute) (last reset: 4y 50w 5d 5h 2m ago)
#5103 [19:03] <jeeva> oops
#5104 [19:04] <RF> so the harddrive read head doesn't need to skip so much
#5105 [19:04] <Hypertypical> * ..
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#5107 [19:04] <gothroach> Hypertypical: If sites like Netflix can run on EC2, I think it's more than capable of running MC.net and the authentication server.
#5108 [19:04] <gothroach> :P
#5109 [19:04] <Hypertypical> So why isn't it...
#5110 [19:05] <RF> Just needs the right setup and config
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#5112 [19:05] <RF> which it clearly is lacking in some form
#5113 [19:05] <Hypertypical> Notch must have hired some suckish server programmers
#5114 [19:05] <jeeva> somone probably injected some code
#5115 [19:05] <jeeva> to kill the service
#5116 [19:05] <RF> Or even people who just don't know how to setup on EC2, and tried to use it as a standard network of VPS
#5117 [19:05] <gothroach> I think their servers were written for a traditional server setup, and doesn't take advantage of the features of a system such as EC2.
#5118 [19:05] <RF> I doubt it jeeva
#5119 [19:05] <Hypertypical> But what i dont understand is
#5120 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> FROM MinecraftFANs, KILL Service to Spite Hypertypical.
#5121 [19:06] <Hypertypical> why is it so long before it reboots?
#5122 [19:06] <Skoshuke> jeeva: Well, I didn't want to brag, but...
#5123 [19:06] <jeeva> hehe
#5124 [19:06] <jeeva> i'm dying of heat :/
#5125 [19:06] <Hypertypical> Why does it take so long for the server to reboot?
#5126 [19:06] <jeeva> 2 AM and like 35'C
#5127 [19:06] <RF> A lot of work was done on the server list recently, which likely increased server load a bit, Add it to the increased load for a saturday... and it's almost predictable that it'll be overloaded
#5128 [19:07] <Hypertypical> Why does it take so long for the server to reboot after it is down?
#5129 [19:07] <gothroach> It's not a matter of rebooting, it's a matter of load and possibly some behind the scenes issues the community has no idea about.
#5130 [19:07] <RF> "reboot" lol
#5131 [19:07] <Hypertypical> I mean seriously
#5132 [19:07] <RF> cloud network + the word "reboot" = lol
#5133 [19:07] <gothroach> :P
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#5135 [19:07] * gothroach wonders what it'd take for Amazon to reboot their entire cloud.
#5135 [19:07] <Hypertypical> *server crashes* - Solution? Turn off... Turn on!
#5136 [19:08] <Hypertypical> I mean
#5137 [19:08] <KA_Gamer> Right, Hypertypical
#5138 [19:08] <Hypertypical> You just have to walk up to the wall socket
#5139 [19:08] <RF> It's not "A" server
#5140 [19:08] <gothroach> Hypertypical: That really doesn't address any underlying issues.
#5141 [19:08] <RF> it's many thousands of them
#5142 [19:08] <Hypertypical> What is it RF?
#5143 [19:08] <RF> all over the world
#5144 [19:08] <RF> Cloud Computing
#5145 [19:08] <Hypertypical> So?
#5146 [19:08] <RF> Throw it into google sometime
#5147 [19:08] <Hypertypical> Just have a big button
#5148 [19:08] <Bob_Sack> get all the employees to go unplug all the server boxes then
#5149 [19:08] <Hypertypical> yes
#5150 [19:08] <Hypertypical> then plug back in
#5151 [19:09] <gothroach> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing
#5152 [19:09] <RF> And bam
#5153 [19:09] <RF> You reboot
#5154 [19:09] <gothroach> Read that.
#5155 [19:09] <Hypertypical> nasa will go bankrupt!
#5156 [19:09] <gothroach> Then come back.
#5157 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm so going to regret this
#5158 [19:09] <RF> then get the same DEMAND on the servers back
#5159 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> !wiki cloud computing
#5160 [19:09] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing
#5161 [19:09] <GreyBot> Cloud computing describes computation, software, data access, and storage services that do not require end-user knowledge of the physical location and configuration of the system that delivers the services. Parallels to this concept can be drawn with the electricity grid where end-users consume power resources without any necessary understanding of the component devices in the grid
#5162 [19:09] <GreyBot> required to provide the service.
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#5164 [19:09] <Krisstr> Hello
#5165 [19:09] <Hypertypical> just get a bigger cloud?
#5166 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> "My power is out. Reboot the power grid!"
#5167 [19:09] <RF> So simple...
#5168 [19:09] <Xerati> grey
#5169 [19:09] <Xerati> i broke into your place
#5170 [19:10] <gothroach> Hypertypical: As I said, sites MUCH larger than MC.net run on EC2 perfectly, they don't need a larger cloud.
#5171 [19:10] <RF> "The planet is running out of space " "Get a bigger planet!"
#5172 [19:10] <Xerati> you should add 1 more...'key'
#5173 [19:10] <gothroach> They need to re-evaluate their implementation of said cloud :P
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#5175 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Xerati - It wasn't finished yet
#5176 [19:10] <Xerati> still was cool :P
#5177 [19:10] <Xerati> i didnn't even think of doing it like that before
#5178 [19:10] <Xerati> loved the tune xD
#5179 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> I was planning on doing one more key at the end of the trapped corridor
#5180 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Just needed a spark of inspiration
#5181 [19:11] <Xerati> instead of an arrow, you can use water
#5182 [19:11] <Xerati> lift a boat off a plate
#5183 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> water doesn't go over plates
#5184 [19:11] <KA_Gamer> !isdown minecraft.net
#5185 [19:11] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5186 [19:11] <Xerati> doesn't matter
#5187 [19:11] <Xerati> 2x2 area for a boat
#5188 [19:12] <KA_Gamer> !isdown netflix.com
#5189 [19:12] <Xerati> water comes in top left, plate in bottom right
#5190 [19:12] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's just you. http://netflix.com is up.
#5191 [19:12] <Xerati> boat just sits there
#5192 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Hmm... I see.
#5193 [19:12] <Xerati> when it comes in, the boat will lift, because it's bigger than the plate and hits the water
#5194 [19:12] * GreyVulpine wonders if TNT is banned on the server
#5194 [19:12] <Xerati> lol
#5195 [19:12] <Xerati> nope
#5196 [19:12] <Xerati> just have to make it
#5197 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Neat, I might have a little project to do
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#5199 [19:13] <Bob_Sack> !wiki penis
#5200 [19:13] <Bob_Sack> damnit
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#5202 [19:13] <Xerati> !isdown sweatyman
#5203 [19:13] <Xerati> O_o
#5204 [19:13] <Xerati> it's afraid to check
#5205 [19:13] <Xerati> oh
#5206 [19:13] <Xerati> !isdown sweatyman.com
#5207 [19:13] <GreyBot> Xerati: It's just you. http://sweatyman.com is up.
#5208 [19:13] <Xerati> xD!
#5209 [19:13] <Xerati> shit, i just made myself bleed
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#5211 [19:14] <Tehcmc> Hello?
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#5213 [19:14] <SkiingPenguins> ?
#5214 [19:14] <Tehcmc> When is notch fixing the site?
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#5218 [19:14] <xales> Tehcmc: when it's fixed
#5219 [19:14] <EmpiresBane> we have no idea
#5220 [19:14] <Xerati> xales, not true
#5221 [19:14] <Xerati> he'll be 'fixing' it right before it's fixed
#5222 [19:15] <Xerati> not after
#5223 [19:15] <Lauless> has anyone pagged notch?
#5224 [19:15] <SkiingPenguins> stfu
#5225 [19:15] <Lauless> he has a pager, right?
#5226 [19:15] <Xerati> actually, he wouldn't even be fixing it
#5227 [19:15] <SkiingPenguins> he's probably asleep right
#5228 [19:15] <EmpiresBane> we can't really talk to Notch
#5229 [19:15] <nanotron> yeah, it's like talking to God
#5230 [19:15] <SkiingPenguins> or the president of the us
#5231 [19:15] <Lauless> pls send 911 page?
#5232 [19:15] <nanotron> you can pray to him but that's about it
#5233 [19:15] <KA_Gamer> http://www.isminecraftdown.net<----- Not a reliable website.
#5234 [19:16] <Vek> does he accept human sacrifices?
#5235 [19:16] <nanotron> only in minecraft form
#5236 [19:16] <EmpiresBane> only if you turn the human into a bunch of blocks
#5237 [19:16] <Lauless> how about server sacrifices?
#5238 [19:16] <EmpiresBane> i think he'd rather have the server than have you destruy it
#5239 [19:17] <EmpiresBane> *destroy
#5240 [19:17] <Xerati> Pray to Notch, for he hath giveth Minecraft, and he can taketh it away
#5241 [19:17] <Lauless> oh, I just have cheap vps to offer....nothing that could really help....
#5242 [19:17] <KA_Gamer> Isn't there an church and irc law? lol
#5243 [19:17] <Xerati> he's got a shitton of servers
#5244 [19:18] <Xerati> the problem is there's too many people trying to use it
#5245 [19:18] <Lauless> get a shitton more?
#5246 [19:18] <Xerati> the users overgrew the servers exponentially
#5247 [19:18] <Xerati> i (hope) he is
#5248 [19:18] <Lauless> do we scale?
#5249 [19:18] <Lauless> send the page...911
#5250 [19:18] <Xerati> no idea how good/bad the code is, or how it was designed
#5251 [19:18] <relsqui> they're working on getting *better* servers, not more servers
#5252 [19:18] <Lauless> throw money at it!
#5253 [19:18] <SkiingPenguins> it's amazon
#5254 [19:19] <relsqui> when their old one got overloaded, they moved as fast as they could to something that seemed right
#5255 [19:19] <Xerati> shitton of power then
#5256 [19:19] <relsqui> which was amazon
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#5258 [19:19] <relsqui> which apparently can't even keep the admin UI up reliably
#5259 [19:19] <alex311360> Guys
#5260 [19:19] <alex311360> I need some help with Humans mod
#5261 [19:19] <Krisstr> why is minecraft down?
#5262 [19:19] <xales> Krisstr: because the servers are broken
#5263 [19:19] <SkiingPenguins> jeez i hate people who come in here and are like "Guys," or "Guys" or whatever
#5264 [19:19] <relsqui> so, they're working on moving again, but taking enough time to find something that will really serve them in the long run
#5265 [19:19] <xales> ??> alex311360 mods
#5266 [19:19] <VoxelHead> alex311360: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#5267 [19:19] <VoxelHead> alex311360: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#5268 [19:19] <brokenshovel> they how many copies of games are sold there no excuse for crap login server,
#5269 [19:19] <alex311360> Nononono
#5270 [19:19] <KA_Gamer> ??>Krisstr mc.net/down
#5271 [19:19] <alex311360> This is a Single player one
#5272 [19:19] <alex311360> Not bukkit
#5273 [19:19] <TobeMan> Hello again. I have another question.
#5274 [19:20] <relsqui> alex311360: .... it's still a mod, though
#5275 [19:20] <relsqui> alex311360: this channel is for base game support
#5276 [19:20] <KA_Gamer> Hey TobeMan
#5277 [19:20] <TobeMan> hi KA_Gamer :)
#5278 [19:20] <alex311360> Then where am I supposed to ask the stupid question?
#5279 [19:20] <SkiingPenguins> alex311360 ask the dev of the mod
#5280 [19:20] <xales> alex311360: like it said, #risucraft
#5281 [19:20] <xales> or the forum
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#5283 [19:20] <Xerati> kekeke
#5284 [19:20] <Xerati> he's emo
#5285 [19:20] <TobeMan> Im configuring a brand new server... with the official server software (1.3)...
#5286 [19:21] <KA_Gamer> Yeah.
#5287 [19:21] <TobeMan> When I try to connect the server prints out:
#5288 [19:21] <Xerati> is the server in offline mode?
#5289 [19:21] <Xerati> or rather, have online mode disabled?
#5290 [19:22] <Hypertypical> guys look
#5291 [19:22] <KA_Gamer> What does it print out?
#5292 [19:22] <Hypertypical> http://zhost.tk/u/u3/notchminecraftdown.png
#5293 [19:22] <Hypertypical> that is what i mean
#5294 [19:22] <TobeMan> i have the "online-mode=false"
#5295 [19:22] <Xerati> kk
#5296 [19:22] <TobeMan> an di get this message: [INFO] tobeman lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#5297 [19:23] <TobeMan> after like 20 seconds or so
#5298 [19:23] <Xerati> what about on the client?
#5299 [19:23] <TobeMan> let me see
#5300 [19:23] <EmpiresBane> goodness me, my computer cannot handle all this
#5301 [19:23] <EmpiresBane> bbl
#5302 [19:23] <TobeMan> java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#5303 [19:23] <KA_Gamer> Try connecting again. Does the client randomly shut down?
#5304 [19:23] <TobeMan> every time i connect
#5305 [19:23] <TobeMan> Internal Exception
#5306 [19:24] <KA_Gamer> It doesn't sound like a server problem. Maybe it's your client. You have 1.3_01?
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#5308 [19:25] <xales> TobeMan: what NIC does the server have?
#5309 [19:25] <TobeMan> where can I tell?
#5310 [19:25] <Xerati> TobeMan, try another server? try smp.xerati.net
#5311 [19:25] <TobeMan> ok hold on
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#5313 [19:25] <TobeMan> that worked
#5314 [19:26] <Xerati> redownload the server
#5315 [19:26] <xales> TobeMan: what model of NIC is in the server?
#5316 [19:26] <KA_Gamer> Whats the server ip and port forward. type it in after typing !check
#5317 [19:26] <xales> KA_Gamer: nope
#5318 [19:26] <Xerati> it's not a port issue, he's making it 'to' the server
#5319 [19:26] <xales> ^
#5320 [19:26] <gothroach> !check
#5321 [19:26] <Xerati> xales and i think alike too much
#5322 [19:26] <xales> Xerati, KA_Gamer: The issue is usually an Atheros card
#5323 [19:26] <gothroach> O.o
#5324 [19:26] <Xerati> ahahahha
#5325 [19:26] <xales> ?? fubar/nic
#5326 [19:26] <VoxelHead> fubar/nic: Unfortunately, Minecraft has an incompatibility with certain network interface chipsets that manifests with a "Recv Timed Out" or a "Socket Write" error.
#5327 [19:26] <VoxelHead> fubar/nic: Your only three solutions at the moment are to buy a new NIC, to switch to Linux or MacOS (which does not have this problem), or to wait for Notch to find and fix the problem.
#5328 [19:26] <Xerati> atheros, sigh
#5329 [19:26] <gothroach> It's looking grim for my BNC's IP? O.o
#5330 [19:27] <Xerati> lolol
#5331 [19:27] <xales> gothroach: it looks at your own IP by default
#5332 [19:27] <gothroach> Aah, okay.
#5333 [19:27] <KA_Gamer> Oh, so it looks like your luck ran out...
#5334 [19:27] <gothroach> !check mc.0xf.org
#5335 [19:27] <KA_Gamer> !check
#5336 [19:27] <gothroach> Got it, nice
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#5338 [19:27] <AndrewPH> !check localhost
#5339 [19:27] <Xerati> !check
#5340 [19:27] <AndrewPH> derp
#5341 [19:28] <Xerati> oops
#5342 [19:28] <Xerati> !check
#5343 [19:28] <Xerati> lol
#5344 [19:28] <AndrewPH> lol
#5345 [19:28] <TobeMan> hmmm... so where can I download the Linux server software at the moment?? :P :P
#5346 [19:28] <KA_Gamer> !check localhost
#5347 [19:28] <KA_Gamer> !check 71.85.198.153
#5348 [19:28] <AndrewPH> !check
#5349 [19:28] * progme [progme@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#5350 [19:28] <KA_Gamer> uh, oh....
#5351 [19:29] <KA_Gamer> !check 71.85.198.153:50500
#5352 [19:29] <RF> What is it, just a ping ?
#5353 [19:29] <gothroach> Haha, just noticed the bot caused an error in my server console when it checked.
#5354 [19:29] <xales> it checks if it can make a connection
#5355 [19:29] <RF> or does it attempt a connect on 80 ?
#5356 [19:29] <RF> aah
#5357 [19:29] <gothroach> Then resets the connection >.<
#5358 [19:30] <xales> (it just completes the TCP handchake then hangs up)
#5359 [19:30] <KA_Gamer> !check 71.85.198.153:50500
#5360 [19:30] <gothroach> 2011-02-27 00:27:24 [SEVERE] java.net.SocketException: Connection reset <-- I can tell :D
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#5362 [19:33] <Wahrheit> !isdown minecraft.net
#5363 [19:33] <GreyBot> Wahrheit: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5364 [19:34] <KA_Gamer> youtube time!
#5365 [19:36] <KA_Gamer> Tech support is borign
#5366 [19:36] * Boogi3Monster [Boogi3Monster@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#5367 [19:36] <KA_Gamer> *boring
#5368 [19:36] <Xerati> it can be
#5369 [19:36] <Boogi3Monster> hi all
#5370 [19:36] <Xerati> i'm making sure like 2000 servers are online
#5371 [19:36] <Boogi3Monster> is minecraft server down?
#5372 [19:36] <Xerati> and when they are...it gets boring as hell
#5373 [19:36] <Xerati> Boogi3Monster, yes
#5374 [19:36] <Boogi3Monster> thanks...
#5375 [19:36] <Boogi3Monster> any idea when it will be back up? i need to feed my addiction..
#5376 [19:37] <Boogi3Monster> ???
#5377 [19:37] <Lauless> pls???
#5378 [19:37] <Xerati> single player still works
#5379 [19:37] <Lauless> that doesn't feed the addiction....
#5380 [19:37] <Xerati> and multiplayer works if the server is in offline mode
#5381 [19:37] <Carmen> nevercast: Do you have skype?
#5382 [19:37] <Boogi3Monster> hehee
#5383 [19:37] <Boogi3Monster> NOOOOOOOOOOO
#5384 [19:37] <Lauless> whitelist work in offline mode?
#5385 [19:38] <Xerati> probably not :P
#5386 [19:38] <SkiingPenguins> i would hope so
#5387 [19:38] <nevercast> Carmen, Yes. 'nevercast'
#5388 [19:38] <Xerati> whoa nevercast
#5389 [19:38] <nevercast> Xerati, Someone trashed my castle on my server!
#5390 [19:38] <Xerati> that's crazy!
#5391 [19:38] <Xerati> :O
#5392 [19:38] <Xerati> it wasn't me
#5393 [19:38] <nevercast> I know
#5394 [19:38] <Xerati> i'm too laggy to grief
#5395 [19:38] <nevercast> It was RigsUK
#5396 [19:38] <Xerati> lol
#5397 [19:38] <SkiingPenguins> bann
#5398 [19:38] <Xerati> i'm starting up a server
#5399 [19:38] <nevercast> He's banned
#5400 [19:38] <Lauless> right now?
#5401 [19:39] * Boogi3Monster [Boogi3Monster@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#5402 [19:39] <nevercast> Now I'm trying to roll back server
#5403 [19:39] <nevercast> but they are not timestamped
#5404 [19:39] <Lauless> who has a server up?
#5405 [19:39] <Xerati> nevercast, bigbrother
#5406 [19:39] <Xerati> i do
#5407 [19:39] <Xerati> no whitelist, no mods, no rules
#5408 [19:39] <Lauless> chaos
#5409 [19:39] <Xerati> naw, brand new
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#5411 [19:39] <Xerati> i plan to be adding stuff within the hour
#5412 [19:39] <Xerati> lol
#5413 [19:39] <Lauless> oh, real server then
#5414 [19:39] <Xerati> yeah
#5415 [19:40] <Xerati> i'm at work atm
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#5418 [19:40] <Xerati> when i get home, i'll be finishing it up, and it'll be live
#5419 [19:41] <Xerati> though i would like to 'stress' test it
#5420 [19:41] <Xerati> so the more the merrier
#5421 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Can I get stacks of TNT?
#5422 [19:41] <Carmen> ^
#5423 [19:41] <Xerati> i can give anything for now :P
#5424 [19:41] <Lauless> I could log on and maybe generate chunks!
#5425 [19:41] <Xerati> when i load the other stuffs, in an hour, i'll be regenerating the map
#5426 [19:41] <Xerati> same map though
#5427 [19:41] <Carmen> nevercast: syke sent you a skype request. He's Bok Choy.
#5428 [19:42] * EmpiresBane [EmpiresBane@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#5429 [19:42] <EmpiresBane> yay!
#5430 [19:42] <KA_Gamer> !isdown minecraft.net
#5431 [19:42] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5432 [19:42] <Xerati> !check smp.xerati.net
#5433 [19:42] <Xerati> it's up
#5434 [19:42] <EmpiresBane> steam is now on my "big" hd
#5435 [19:42] <Xerati> as opposed to your little one
#5436 [19:42] <Xerati> kekeke
#5437 [19:42] <gothroach> Xerati: Offline mode?
#5438 [19:42] <Xerati> yes
#5439 [19:42] <Xerati> for now
#5440 [19:43] <EmpiresBane> yes, one hd 35gb the other is 75
#5441 [19:43] <gothroach> Excellent
#5442 [19:43] <Xerati> try to use the updated client though... otherwise you'll be fighting over the name 'player'
#5443 [19:43] <gothroach> I can see why you put big in quotes, EmpiresBane.
#5444 [19:43] <EmpiresBane> i had steam on my 35 hd, and the did not work
#5445 [19:44] <Carmen> Steam didn't work or the HD didnt?
#5446 [19:44] <nevercast> My server is up
#5447 [19:44] <nevercast> minecraft is down
#5448 [19:44] <Xerati> good
#5449 [19:44] <Carmen> You're set to online mode.
#5450 [19:44] <Xerati> >:D
#5451 [19:44] <EmpiresBane> i think tonight, i'm just gonna leave a bunch of games qeued up i steam for download
#5452 [19:44] <Xerati> i mean, awww
#5453 [19:44] <Xerati> EmpiresBane lol
#5454 [19:44] <Xerati> i've done that
#5455 [19:44] <Xerati> 35gb overnight
#5456 [19:44] <Xerati> i was happy
#5457 [19:44] <EmpiresBane> Carmen, I have to many games to fit on the 35gb hd
#5458 [19:45] <Xerati> wait, 35 and 75?
#5459 [19:45] <Xerati> gb?
#5460 [19:45] <Carmen> Ah, reasonable then... but why are you only using a 35GB HD? SSD?
#5461 [19:45] <EmpiresBane> yeah
#5462 [19:45] <Xerati> the smallest hd i have is 500gb
#5463 [19:45] <Xerati> and then it goes up to 2tb
#5464 [19:45] <EmpiresBane> it's an old computer
#5465 [19:45] <Xerati> i can tell O_o
#5466 [19:45] <KA_Gamer> Agreed.
#5467 [19:45] <EmpiresBane> it's from 2001
#5468 [19:46] <EmpiresBane> i am definatly investing in a new computer when i get a job
#5469 [19:46] <gothroach> Hell, most of my computers here have <250gb space each.
#5470 [19:46] <Xerati> lol
#5471 [19:47] <gothroach> But we use a sizable NAS that's mounted on each machine :P
#5472 [19:47] <Xerati> oh, i lied
#5473 [19:47] <Xerati> i have a 120gb drive
#5474 [19:47] <Xerati> but it's SSD
#5475 [19:47] <SkiingPenguins> this laptop has 250gb, but i only seem to use 40gb
#5476 [19:47] <KA_Gamer> 270gb on mine
#5477 [19:47] <Xerati> which is where i'm hosting the server
#5478 [19:47] <Xerati> so fast chunk loading >:D
#5479 [19:47] <gothroach> Nice
#5480 [19:50] <EmpiresBane> is there a way to limit download speeds on steam?
#5481 [19:50] <Xerati> i wish
#5482 [19:51] <EmpiresBane> damn...
#5483 [19:51] <Xerati> or better, a way to control ANYTHINg besides download/not downloading
#5484 [19:51] <jeeva> b
#5485 [19:51] <jeeva> buy a routerboard.com
#5486 [19:51] <jeeva> thats what i use for my games
#5487 [19:51] <jeeva> & steam
#5488 [19:51] <gothroach> EmpiresBane: Have to use a program or something to limit it.
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#5490 [19:54] <EmpiresBane> screw it
#5491 [19:54] <Xerati> will i get paid?
#5492 [19:54] <EmpiresBane> i don't care if the rest of my family can't use the internet
#5493 [19:54] <EmpiresBane> i'm donloading games
#5494 [19:54] <nipper> lol
#5495 [19:55] <nipper> EmpiresBane I'm the same way. But in the end they can't say shit since I pay the bill.
#5496 [19:55] <Xerati> kekeke
#5497 [19:55] <Xerati> or just do it when they're sleeping
#5498 [19:55] <nipper> But thats his porn watching hours.
#5499 [19:55] <EmpiresBane> they won't be sleeping for another 7 hours
#5500 [19:56] <EmpiresBane> that's too much wasted time
#5501 [19:56] * gothroach rages against Comcast's cap.
#5501 [19:56] <Xerati> comcast's cap?
#5502 [19:56] <EmpiresBane> they have a cap?
#5503 [19:56] <Xerati> well, yeah, but not really
#5504 [19:56] <Xerati> i mean it's damn hard to break it
#5505 [19:56] <Xerati> 5tb?
#5506 [19:57] <Xerati> i think it was?
#5507 [19:57] <Xerati> maybe 500gb
#5508 [19:57] <EmpiresBane> 5tb in how long>
#5509 [19:57] <Xerati> sounds more like 500gb
#5510 [19:57] <Xerati> per month
#5511 [19:57] <Xerati> i've done 300gb for a few months, no issues
#5512 [19:57] <Xerati> unless he means bandwidth... but i still max out everything i connect to
#5513 [19:57] <EmpiresBane> hm...
#5514 [19:57] <Xerati> even steam
#5515 [19:57] <Xerati> i download a 15gb game on steam in...30mins?
#5516 [19:57] <Xerati> if that?
#5517 [19:58] <EmpiresBane> i wonder if they also have a daily cap, because i've had it just die after downloading
#5518 [19:58] <Xerati> don't believe so
#5519 [19:58] <EmpiresBane> grr.... i want your internet
#5520 [19:58] <Xerati> i was chatting to a rep about it for awhile
#5521 [19:58] <Xerati> lol
#5522 [19:58] <Krisstr> hey, is the servers coming up again soon?
#5523 [19:58] <Xerati> yeah, i <3 my location
#5524 [19:58] <Xerati> i'm like a block from the regional switch
#5525 [19:58] <Xerati> which goes straight into the internet backbone
#5526 [19:58] <EmpiresBane> location isn't the issue, it's money
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#5528 [19:58] <Xerati> location is part of the issue
#5529 [19:58] <KA_Gamer> !isdown minecraft.net
#5530 [19:58] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5531 [19:58] <Xerati> i have like 3hops to the internet
#5532 [19:58] <Xerati> the real internet
#5533 [19:59] <nipper> http://www.break.com/index/avalanche-owns-car-2012408
#5534 [19:59] <EmpiresBane> yeah, but we have much better speeds available, we just can't afford them
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#5536 [19:59] <Xerati> everyone has the speeds 'available'
#5537 [19:59] <Xerati> even if you can afford them, the farther you are the worse it gets
#5538 [19:59] <Xerati> that's just normal
#5539 [19:59] <Krisstr> Is the servers up soon? Does anyone know?
#5540 [19:59] <Xerati> Krisstr, it's random
#5541 [19:59] <Krisstr> Oh
#5542 [19:59] <Xerati> omw home, bbs
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#5545 [20:01] <Rui_rui> Site down?
#5546 [20:01] <KA_Gamer> .faq launcher
#5547 [20:01] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#5548 [20:01] <KA_Gamer> Yes, the site is down
#5549 [20:01] <Rui_rui> Blergh.
#5550 [20:02] <KA_Gamer> The link by the bot was a test, fyi
#5551 [20:02] <Gogeta> Hey, because the site is down can I still successfully test a server I am setting up?
#5552 [20:02] <KA_Gamer> You should be able to.
#5553 [20:02] <Rui_rui> I haven't been able to get into my own server, so if that's what you mean...
#5554 [20:02] <Wahrheit> !isdown minecraft.net
#5555 [20:02] <GreyBot> Wahrheit: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5556 [20:02] <KA_Gamer> YES IT IS!
#5557 [20:02] <Wahrheit> Fucken' a
#5558 [20:02] <Wahrheit> one of my users got online :/
#5559 [20:03] <KA_Gamer> That's weird
#5560 [20:03] <nipper> its up and down.
#5561 [20:03] <nipper> sometimes its there most the time its not.
#5562 [20:03] <EmpiresBane> i never seem to have problems
#5563 [20:04] <EmpiresBane> \i've only not been able ot login twice
#5564 [20:04] <nipper> I can login with the client but not auth with the server
#5565 [20:05] <Lauless> its up?
#5566 [20:05] <nipper> no
#5567 [20:05] <nevercast> smp.nevercast.net is up
#5568 [20:05] <Lauless> grrr
#5569 [20:07] <Lauless> I am banned?
#5570 [20:08] <EmpiresBane> froom where?
#5571 [20:08] <Lauless> nevercast
#5572 [20:08] <Lauless> I've never been there
#5573 [20:08] <KA_Gamer> !isdown http://www.minecraft.net
#5574 [20:08] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5575 [20:08] <Lauless> but I'm banned
#5576 [20:08] <Lauless> lol
#5577 [20:09] <nevercast> Lauless, If you're banned it means you're using the old launcher
#5578 [20:09] <nevercast> Old launcher is banned
#5579 [20:09] <Lauless> I'm on a mac
#5580 [20:09] * LukasNasa [LukasNasa@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#5581 [20:09] <Bob_Sack> why would anyone ban the old launcher
#5582 [20:09] <Bob_Sack> the new one's broken
#5583 [20:09] <EmpiresBane> how is it broken?
#5584 [20:09] <nevercast> New launcher is fine
#5585 [20:09] <Bob_Sack> last i tried it it didn't work
#5586 [20:10] <Lauless> I don't think it works for me either
#5587 [20:10] <nevercast> Old launcher names everyone 'Player'. WHich means only one person can use the old launcher before it kicks others out.. So I banned the name 'player'
#5588 [20:10] <Lauless> I don't get offline mode option
#5589 [20:10] <nevercast> New Launcher works on Mac if you download the latest
#5590 [20:10] <Lauless> from.....minecraft.net??? lol
#5591 [20:10] <nevercast> Get it from someone that has it :P
#5592 [20:10] <KA_Gamer> download here:
#5593 [20:10] <KA_Gamer> .faq launcher
#5594 [20:10] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#5595 [20:10] <Lauless> amazon link?
#5596 [20:11] <Lauless> I'm on a mac
#5597 [20:11] <KA_Gamer> IDK what to tell ya
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#5599 [20:12] <nevercast> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#5600 [20:12] <nevercast> Just gotta try these urls :P
#5601 [20:12] <Bob_Sack> huh i logged in with the new launcher
#5602 [20:12] <Lauless> a jar I can use
#5603 [20:12] <Bob_Sack> must've gotten lucky
#5604 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> don't know if those URLs will work without a client ticket.
#5605 [20:13] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, They do
#5606 [20:13] <nevercast> The update server is retarded :P
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#5608 [20:13] <Lauless> heh, it fakes me out....like I just logged into auth server....not funny
#5609 [20:13] <nevercast> You can log into Auth server
#5610 [20:14] <nevercast> You just can't use the joinserver scripts
#5611 [20:14] <TobeMan> you have link to the new server software for linux?
#5612 [20:14] <nevercast> which you need to join online servers
#5613 [20:14] <nevercast> TobeMan, nope lol.
#5614 [20:14] <TobeMan> :)
#5615 [20:14] <nevercast> TobeMan, try something like, server/minecraft_server.jar
#5616 [20:14] <nevercast> or something
#5617 [20:14] <Lauless> launcher for mac is broke
#5618 [20:14] <Lauless> I don't get offline option
#5619 [20:14] <nevercast> Which means that you've never played before
#5620 [20:14] <nevercast> and don't have offline files
#5621 [20:15] <KA_Gamer> !isdown minecraft.net
#5622 [20:15] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5623 [20:15] <nevercast> Wait you did click login right?
#5624 [20:15] <Lauless> I have files
#5625 [20:15] <TobeMan> ok ill try... ive been searching wild at my addict for a new NIC the last 30 minutes...
#5626 [20:15] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, Stop it!
#5627 [20:15] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, we know it's down
#5628 [20:15] * Xerati slaps KA_Gamer with a little common sense
#5628 [20:15] <Xerati> hurts doesn't it
#5629 [20:15] <Xerati> never had any before have ya
#5630 [20:15] <Xerati> and, hi all, i'm back
#5631 [20:17] <KA_Gamer> Yeah, I've had two people do so, there called my parents, and I don't believe you're one of them, Xerati. I just want to check it every now and then, is that such a sin?
#5632 [20:18] <nevercast> Hahahah! Nice entry Xerati
#5633 [20:18] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, yes!
#5634 [20:18] <nevercast> KA_Gamer, Use your web browser
#5635 [20:18] <nevercast> Xerati, Are you voice or op?
#5636 [20:18] <KA_Gamer> Will it work in ##VoxelHead
#5637 [20:19] <nevercast> Xerati, I'm going to ask you be voiced. then I'm going to be ask that bots do not take orders from 'users'
#5638 [20:20] <KA_Gamer> XD
#5639 [20:20] <TobeMan> is there a change that mc.net will be online in the next 2 hours?
#5640 [20:20] <TobeMan> chance*
#5641 [20:20] <KA_Gamer> Probably not.
#5642 [20:21] <TobeMan> hmmmm ... :( .. ... :) .. . :D .. .. zzzzzzz
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#5644 [20:23] <Rui_rui> Does anyone know what happened?
#5645 [20:23] <Lauless> overload
#5646 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> mollstam has been working on the login server for a while
#5647 [20:24] <Rui_rui> Ahhh
#5648 [20:24] <KA_Gamer> A gay men add apeared on the chat by mibbit server client, and now my parents think I'm crazy.
#5649 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Don't use mibbit then
#5650 [20:25] <Lauless> they didn't think you were gay?
#5651 [20:26] <KA_Gamer> idk if they did.
#5652 [20:26] <gothroach> KA_Gamer: There are many choices for real IRC clients out there...
#5653 [20:27] <Lauless> the seed may have been planted....if they don't think it now.....
#5654 [20:27] <Lauless> they will later
#5655 [20:27] <KA_Gamer> I don't have time to look nto that rght now.
#5656 [20:27] <gothroach> If you don't want to be bothered, just install mIRC, it's probably the simplest and widest-used.
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#5658 [20:28] <KA_Gamer> I don't have $20
#5659 [20:28] <gothroach> So use it in free mode.
#5660 [20:28] <gothroach> :P
#5661 [20:29] <KA_Gamer> I did that for a while, but then it expired.
#5662 [20:30] <gothroach> Hmm, I didn't know it expires.
#5663 [20:31] <KA_Gamer> It does.
#5664 [20:32] <Wahrheit> !isdown minecraft.net
#5665 [20:32] <GreyBot> Wahrheit: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5666 [20:32] <KA_Gamer> How come you don't slap Wahrhet
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#5668 [20:33] * oinoj slaps everyone
#5668 [20:33] <oinoj> ^^
#5669 [20:33] <KA_Gamer> I got slapped twice!
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#5671 [20:36] * gothroach slaps KA_Gamer around a bit with a large trout
#5671 [20:36] <KA_Gamer> Not that command.
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#5674 [20:37] <gothroach> As far as I'm concerned, it should be a part of RFC1459.
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#5679 [20:51] <theunleet> anything interesting on minecraft being down?
#5680 [20:52] <theunleet> gothroach: After mIRC expires you can still use it forever, you just have a nice nagging screen on startup.
#5681 [20:52] <gothroach> theunleet: I know.
#5682 [20:52] <gothroach> I've been using it for years.
#5683 [20:53] <theunleet> !isdown minecraft.net
#5684 [20:53] <GreyBot> theunleet: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5685 [20:53] <theunleet> !isdown gmail.com
#5686 [20:53] <FFLaguna> Yeah, mollstam is supposedly fixing the servers as of right now
#5687 [20:53] <GreyBot> theunleet: It's just you. http://gmail.com is up.
#5688 [20:53] <FFLaguna> From his seat in an aeroplane
#5689 [20:53] <FFLaguna> !isdown GreyBot looks up
#5690 [20:54] <theunleet> Instead of working diligently from a computer he is on a plane?
#5691 [20:54] <FFLaguna> Yes
#5692 [20:54] <FFLaguna> Well, both
#5693 [20:54] <theunleet> Can't fix broken servers on a Laptop on a plane late at night if the Amazon Customer Support is closed.
#5694 [20:55] <gothroach> I doubt Amazon support has anything to do with the issue.
#5695 [20:55] <Aro> !isdown minecraft.net
#5696 [20:55] <GreyBot> Aro: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5697 [20:55] <theunleet> Amazon is the host of minecraft.net
#5698 [20:55] <Aro> !isdown aro2220.com
#5699 [20:55] <GreyBot> Aro: It's just you. http://aro2220.com is up.
#5700 [20:55] <Aro> neat
#5701 [20:56] <gothroach> theunleet: But doesn't code the authentication daemon that's the issue.
#5702 [20:56] <gothroach> And their cloud is obviously operating perfectly fine at the moment.
#5703 [20:56] <theunleet> The whole website is down, not just the game server.
#5704 [20:56] <gothroach> theunleet: Do you know how Amazon works as a host?
#5705 [20:56] <gothroach> If you have a problem with your website hosted with them, you get on your instance and fix it.
#5706 [20:56] <gothroach> You don't call Amazon.
#5707 [20:56] <theunleet> I do my own hosting services, so I believe I do.
#5708 [20:56] <gothroach> :P
#5709 [20:57] <theunleet> Not all hosting services offer you a way to do that.
#5710 [20:57] <theunleet> Some are retarded
#5711 [20:57] <gothroach> I understand.
#5712 [20:57] <gothroach> I use Amazon EC2 for my own services, so I'm familiar with them.
#5713 [20:57] <theunleet> If I were to buy services, it would probably be with HostGator or GoDaddy or someone.
#5714 [20:58] <theunleet> Not only are they cheap, but the support is great.
#5715 [20:58] <gothroach> And that says how much you know about hosting :)
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#5717 [20:58] <gothroach> No offense.
#5718 [20:58] <lyude> Does anyone have the latest minecraft jar
#5719 [20:58] <lyude> I need to update to the new launcher
#5720 [20:58] <theunleet> On my computer
#5721 [20:58] <xales> .faq launcherjar
#5722 [20:58] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#5723 [20:58] <xales> ^official link
#5724 [20:58] <lyude> Thanks
#5725 [20:59] <theunleet> .faq brokenserver
#5726 [20:59] <theunleet> :P
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#5728 [21:00] <lyude> aaaaaand minecraft freezes
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#5732 [21:05] <KA_Gamer> On twitter:http://mibpaste.com/RDqFYI
#5733 [21:05] <KA_Gamer> ncm
#5734 [21:05] <KA_Gamer> *nvm
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#5737 [21:05] <KA_Gamer> On twitter:sry bout mc.net being down all day guys. No wifi over the atlantic gave us no option to check its status. We are on it now though
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#5739 [21:06] <lyude> Hey guys, my minecraft freezes, and I get this error
#5740 [21:06] <lyude> http://pastebin.com/EKs5fP43
#5741 [21:06] <lyude> I've tried JRE and openjdk6, both give me the same problem
#5742 [21:06] <xales> lyude: it's an opengl issue it seems
#5743 [21:06] <lyude> I noticed
#5744 [21:06] <lyude> Any idea how to fix it?
#5745 [21:07] <xales> has it just started doing that?
#5746 [21:07] <lyude> say Yeah
#5747 [21:07] <lyude> say I am hooked up to a TV right now though
#5748 [21:07] <lyude> oops
#5749 [21:07] <chiller345> lol
#5750 [21:07] <xales> that's probably why
#5751 [21:07] <lyude> So used to typing say fffff
#5752 [21:07] <xales> try not having it on a TV :P
#5753 [21:07] <lyude> Does it have problems with displays like that?
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#5755 [21:07] <chiller345> i guess you know now :P
#5756 [21:07] <xales> it might
#5757 [21:08] <chiller345> hey, is login.jsp down?
#5758 [21:08] <chiller345> i keep getting a 500 servlet error
#5759 [21:08] <xales> yes
#5760 [21:08] <xales> it's up and down
#5761 [21:09] <chiller345> wow
#5762 [21:09] <chiller345> reminds me of schoridinger's cat
#5763 [21:09] <KA_Gamer> On twitter:sry bout mc.net being down all day guys. No wifi over the atlantic gave us no option to check its status. We are on it now though
#5764 [21:09] <chiller345> yays
#5765 [21:09] <Lauless> really?
#5766 [21:09] <Lauless> there is hope for tonight?
#5767 [21:09] <chiller345> man, have the servers always been this packed?
#5768 [21:10] <xales> recently, yeah
#5769 [21:10] <KA_Gamer> more from twitter: Minecraft webiste is totally down. These DB connection issues are more and more lookling like a Schrödinbug.
#5770 [21:10] <chiller345> yay, i was correct
#5771 [21:10] <KA_Gamer> Can someone make sense of the last sentence
#5772 [21:10] <chiller345> schrodinger's cat is
#5773 [21:10] <chiller345> a very interesting theory
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#5775 [21:11] <chiller345> Schr?dinger's Cat: A cat, along with a flask containing a poison and a radioactive source, is placed in a sealed box shielded against environmentally induced quantum decoherence. If an internal Geiger counter detects radiation, the flask is shattered, releasing the poison that kills the cat. The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics implies that after a while, the cat is simultaneously alive and dead. Yet, when we l
#5776 [21:11] <chiller345> we see the cat either alive or dead, not both alive and dead
#5777 [21:12] <chiller345> Which means that a cat, some poison and some uranium are put into a box
#5778 [21:12] <chiller345> that is protected against any attempt by nature to penetrate
#5779 [21:12] <RuneTheRed> ....
#5780 [21:13] <RuneTheRed> I think you messed that one up Chiller345
#5781 [21:13] <chiller345> i probably did
#5782 [21:13] <chiller345> lol
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#5784 [21:14] <KA_Gamer> More from twitter: Uploading an update that might ease up on the site. This space Internet isn't 100 Mbit though…
#5785 [21:15] <chiller345> i sure hope everything will work out just right when i buy it though :/
#5786 [21:16] <KA_Gamer> i gtg, so you people check the website:http://twitter.com/nvrcast/minecraft
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#5790 [21:21] <Mathuin> So #minecraft doesn't seem like the best place to talk about programming ideas. Any suggestions on other places?
#5791 [21:21] <blip2> Mathuin: try freenode
#5792 [21:22] <AndrewPH> Mathuin, #mcdevs on freenode has people who work on minecraft-related projects
#5793 [21:22] <Mathuin> Ooooh.
#5794 [21:22] <Mathuin> I use freenode sometimes.
#5795 [21:22] <nevercast> Can someone suggest a good protection plugin?
#5796 [21:22] <xales> nevercast: 24/7 admin
#5797 [21:23] <nevercast> xales, thanks.
#5798 [21:23] <nevercast> my shit got fucked up because protection didn't work
#5799 [21:24] <xales> I was joking
#5800 [21:24] <xales> I mean
#5801 [21:24] <xales> nevercast: stay online 24/7 :P
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#5804 [21:27] <nevercast> oh lol
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#5806 [21:27] <KA_Gamer> Hey guys, I gave ya a link to the twitter page, can ya give it back?
#5807 [21:28] <KA_Gamer> aka repost
#5808 [21:29] <KA_Gamer> .faq launcher
#5809 [21:29] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
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#5814 [21:33] <[NFO]Kadgar> hi, i got a question, does obsidian portal work in SMP ?
#5815 [21:33] <KA_Gamer> NO
#5816 [21:33] <KA_Gamer> I mean nope.
#5817 [21:34] <[NFO]Kadgar> ok so if i build one, it would only serve as fashion deco....for now ?
#5818 [21:34] <RuneTheRed> Well it would be all purple and wavey
#5819 [21:34] <RuneTheRed> Hey there is a cool idea… build a tower of portals...
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#5821 [21:35] <KA_Gamer> Esentially, yes.
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#5823 [21:35] <[NFO]Kadgar> ok, so i just wasted my time building 2 portal without any diamond pick lol
#5824 [21:36] <Mathuin> [NFO]Kadgar: consider them just expensive pieces of art.
#5825 [21:36] <KA_Gamer> !isdown minecraf.net
#5826 [21:36] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer: It's just you. http://minecraf.net is up.
#5827 [21:36] <[NFO]Kadgar> yeah huh
#5828 [21:36] <KA_Gamer> ITS UP?
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#5830 [21:37] <PcJamesy> !isdown minecraft.net
#5831 [21:37] <GreyBot> PcJamesy: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#5832 [21:37] <Mathuin> ...
#5833 [21:37] <RuneTheRed> yes… MINECRAF.net is up
#5834 [21:37] <Mathuin> Someone's mean.
#5835 [21:37] <KA_Gamer> not any more.
#5836 [21:37] <RuneTheRed> ka-boooom
#5837 [21:37] <KA_Gamer> its goin in an out
#5838 [21:37] <PcJamesy> GreyBot spelled it wrong
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#5840 [21:37] <Mathuin> KA_Gamer spelled it wrong, Greybot just repeated.
#5841 [21:38] <Maulmauk> So help me with this conundrum. With the loss of the ever burning wood blocks, how do I make my castle lit up with fire with zero access to the nether? :(
#5842 [21:38] <KA_Gamer> Aw, spelt it wrong.
#5843 [21:38] <PcJamesy> ok
#5844 [21:38] <Maulmauk> I miss my castle lights :/
#5845 [21:38] <PcJamesy> is there an eta for when the login server will be back up
#5846 [21:38] <Mathuin> Do glass blocks refract light or just let light through?
#5847 [21:39] <RF> PcJamesy: June
#5848 [21:39] <Maulmauk> let it through Mathuin afaik.
#5849 [21:39] <RF> But seriously, They'll be up when they're up, no sooner, no later
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#5851 [21:39] <RuneTheRed> Mathuin: just let the light through I belive
#5852 [21:39] <KA_Gamer> PCJamesy: Whenever it's up, it's up.
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#5855 [21:40] <KA_Gamer> Why is mc.net down?
#5856 [21:40] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/hosting
#5857 [21:40] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: Since migrating over to Amazon's EC2 cloud, the cluster servers for minecraft.net have been under impressive strain. It has continually buckled under the pressure of registering users, authenticating clients, crediting accounts, providing custom skin content, maintaining a classic server directory, as well as providing a front-end website for users.
#5858 [21:40] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: This is clearly not intended and Mojang is working on a new server arrangement, but is ensuring that it's done properly and not just quickly as was the move to Amazon.
#5859 [21:40] <KA_Gamer> That's why
#5860 [21:41] <fzix> why do i keep getting error 503?
#5861 [21:41] <Mathuin> Probably due to the load-balancing implementation used by Amazon, if I had to guess.
#5862 [21:41] <geo> lol
#5863 [21:41] <xales> fzix: because it's down
#5864 [21:41] <KA_Gamer> Because the server is way overloaded.
#5865 [21:41] <KA_Gamer> so what do we do?
#5866 [21:41] <Maulmauk> Because amazon is bad :P
#5867 [21:41] <KA_Gamer> ?? mc.net/down
#5868 [21:41] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Presently, there are problems with some of the parts of minecraft.net, which may cause errors or other problems when attempting to log in or to play the game.
#5869 [21:41] <VoxelHead> mc.net/down: Just sit tight and give it some time, and things will be back to normal soon.
#5870 [21:41] <AG_Clinton> Amazon isn't bad.
#5871 [21:42] <AG_Clinton> Lol...
#5872 [21:42] <Mathuin> It's not *bad*, it's just not a good match to Mojang's needs.
#5873 [21:42] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper.
#5873 [21:43] <RuneTheRed> greyvulpine: Nooo… you'll doom us all!
#5874 [21:43] <KA_Gamer> Well netflix runs on amazon
#5875 [21:43] <AG_Clinton> It's a good match.
#5876 [21:43] <AG_Clinton> You still have to manage it though.
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#5879 [21:43] <Thomasice> why is minecraft still down?
#5880 [21:44] <AG_Clinton> Just because you don't utilize Amazon's service properly doesn't make it bad.
#5881 [21:44] <Thomasice> its been 5 fucking hours
#5882 [21:44] <RuneTheRed> Well Netflix probably pays amazon waaaaay more money >.>
#5883 [21:44] <Thomasice> why is minecraft still down?
#5884 [21:44] <AG_Clinton> Once again.
#5885 [21:44] <AG_Clinton> You have to have someone who knows what they're doing manage it.
#5886 [21:44] <RuneTheRed> It could be a straight up bandwidth issue
#5887 [21:44] <Mathuin> It's more complex than bandwidth.
#5888 [21:44] <Mathuin> And it does require management. I don't know the specifics, and without knowing those, it's hard to point fingers.
#5889 [21:45] <RuneTheRed> Well exactly how much server power is Mojang paying for?
#5890 [21:45] <Mathuin> But it's definitely not working right. :-)
#5891 [21:45] <AG_Clinton> Only the people paying and the people administrating it know that answer...
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#5893 [21:46] <RuneTheRed> No way.. its working just fine. The new design is even more minimalist than google!
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#5895 [21:46] <RuneTheRed> Its totally chic
#5896 [21:46] <Mandreas> I NEED HELPPP
#5897 [21:46] <Mandreas> IM SUFFERING FROM MC WITHDRAWL.
#5898 [21:47] <Bob_Sack> i got in somehow using the new launcher
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#5900 [21:47] <RuneTheRed> Get me some leggos stat!
#5901 [21:47] <Bob_Sack> and im not logging out until the server's fixed =P
#5902 [21:47] <Mandreas> hahahahaha
#5903 [21:47] <Eledore> Problem of Amazon's EC2 is that it constantly tries to minimize the usage. sometimes when a service (client) has a large boost in usage EC2 can't handle the loadscale with the demand and gets overloaded.. :(
#5904 [21:47] <Mandreas> well poop on you, sir.
#5905 [21:48] <Mandreas> Lets brainstorm here.
#5906 [21:48] <RuneTheRed> *gets Mandreas some sugar cubes and paint*
#5907 [21:48] <Mandreas> What can I do to pass the time?
#5908 [21:48] <Mandreas> PAINT
#5909 [21:48] <Mandreas> -eats paint-
#5910 [21:48] <RuneTheRed> ...
#5911 [21:49] <Mandreas> xD
#5912 [21:49] <RuneTheRed> *offers thinner to wash it down?
#5913 [21:49] <Eledore> loadbalancer will then try to move in additional resources but these can get time'd out. or worse not autenticated.. Cloud computing is nice if you know how much you are goign to need.. EC2 is just a way for amazone to earn money. not the best sollution i would say.
#5914 [21:49] <Mandreas> -takes thinner-
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#5916 [21:49] <Liraxus> Hey
#5917 [21:49] <Mandreas> OHAI
#5918 [21:49] <Mathuin> I am willing to set up a server for folks to walk around and explore, but nothing persistent.
#5919 [21:49] <Eledore> best thing to pass the time? i have run out of idea's and landed here..
#5920 [21:49] <Liraxus> Can i have the Image for the default texture for the ground?
#5921 [21:49] <Mandreas> same haha
#5922 [21:50] <Mandreas> tried surfing game sites.
#5923 [21:50] <Mandreas> anyone got a fun rpg or something?
#5924 [21:50] <Mathuin> Liraxus: start up a single player game and screenshot?
#5925 [21:50] <Liraxus> uh
#5926 [21:50] <Liraxus> no,
#5927 [21:50] <Liraxus> I wanna make a texture pack
#5928 [21:50] <RuneTheRed> Uhmmm Evil Genius is pretty fun
#5929 [21:50] <RuneTheRed> and retro
#5930 [21:50] <Liraxus> I just need the image you modify to change the look of the ground
#5931 [21:50] <RuneTheRed> in that it is infact now reasonably old
#5932 [21:51] <Mandreas> but
#5933 [21:51] <Mandreas> i mean
#5934 [21:51] <Mandreas> one i can play
#5935 [21:51] <Mandreas> nao
#5936 [21:51] <Mandreas> RITE NAO
#5937 [21:51] <RuneTheRed> hold that thought
#5938 [21:51] <Liraxus> sooo plz can i has default terrain img?
#5939 [21:51] <Mathuin> Liraxus: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101116052301AAVSAK3
#5940 [21:51] <RuneTheRed> http://www.kongregate.com/games/joelesler/flagstaff-chapter-one
#5941 [21:51] <RuneTheRed> there you go mandreas
#5942 [21:52] <Mandreas> UGH I WAS JUST PLAYING THAT.
#5943 [21:52] <RuneTheRed> WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?!
#5944 [21:52] <Mandreas> Oh wait no i was playing wop on kong.
#5945 [21:52] <Eledore> i suggest a MUD.. aardwolf.com .. its like dwarfs fortress but different and online.. bbbbboring in the long term.
#5946 [21:52] <Mandreas> o.O SORRRY<#
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#5948 [21:52] <Mandreas> MUD?
#5949 [21:52] <Mandreas> isnt that like
#5950 [21:52] <Mandreas> a typing game?
#5951 [21:52] <BSmitty358> Can someone help me with makeing the TNT fuse shorter?
#5952 [21:52] <RuneTheRed> nope
#5953 [21:52] <RuneTheRed> its a dungeon crawler
#5954 [21:53] <Eledore> yes.. Multi User Dungeon. old clasics..
#5955 [21:53] <RuneTheRed> MUDs are soooooo retro
#5956 [21:53] <Liraxus> oh forget it
#5957 [21:53] <Mathuin> I haven't been on a MUD (or MUCK or MUSH) in years but I use a MOO every day.
#5958 [21:53] <Liraxus> I can do this again later
#5959 [21:53] <Mathuin> Liraxus: I *just told you what to do *.
#5960 [21:53] <BSmitty358> anyone?
#5961 [21:54] <Eledore> It is dark. your likely to be blown up by a creeper.
#5962 [21:54] <RuneTheRed> I light my lantern
#5963 [21:54] <xales> ??> BSmitty358 mods
#5964 [21:54] <VoxelHead> BSmitty358: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#5965 [21:54] <VoxelHead> BSmitty358: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#5966 [21:54] <Mandreas> When i try to play aardwolf
#5967 [21:54] <Mandreas> its telling me
#5968 [21:54] <BSmitty358> Okay
#5969 [21:54] <Mandreas> to enter a pass
#5970 [21:54] <AG_Elias> ...
#5971 [21:54] <RuneTheRed> You could play Nethack Mandreas
#5972 [21:54] <Mandreas> but it wont show anything i type
#5973 [21:54] <BSmitty358> Thank you for the advice
#5974 [21:54] <Liraxus> This free san andreas is amazing.
#5975 [21:55] <Mathuin> Nethack got me a job.
#5976 [21:55] <Mandreas> Nethack?
#5977 [21:55] <RuneTheRed> Nethack...
#5978 [21:55] <Liraxus> Never heard of it
#5979 [21:55] <Mathuin> Best way to learn the vi key bindings evar.
#5980 [21:55] <RuneTheRed> its a roguelike
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#5982 [21:55] <Mandreas> do i have to
#5983 [21:55] <Mandreas> download it?
#5984 [21:55] <Mathuin> nethack.alt.org is still up no?
#5985 [21:56] <RuneTheRed> eeyup
#5986 [21:56] <Liraxus> 3 HOURS FOR DOWNLOAD?!
#5987 [21:56] <Liraxus> ooooh fuck
#5988 [21:56] <Mathuin> http://alt.org/nethack/
#5989 [21:56] <xales> Hint: Don't download nethack
#5990 [21:56] <xales> play on NAO (nethack.alt.org)
#5991 [21:56] <xales> :P
#5992 [21:56] <RuneTheRed> hint? more like PROTIP
#5993 [21:56] <RuneTheRed> or you could play Zork!
#5994 [21:56] <Mathuin> xales: one of the admins there was the one that hired me. :-)
#5995 [21:57] <xales> :)
#5996 [21:57] <RuneTheRed> Heh, where do you work Mathuin?
#5997 [21:57] * Liraxus dies
#5997 [21:57] <RuneTheRed> HOLY CRAP MINECRAFT.NET LIVES!!
#5998 [21:57] <Mathuin> RuneTheRed: I worked for a company called Rackable.
#5999 [21:57] * Eledore heads of to playing minecraft....
#5999 [21:58] <RuneTheRed> That sounds… REALLY familiar...
#6000 [21:58] <Mathuin> RuneTheRed: They got bought by SGI, then renamed themselves.
#6001 [21:58] <Mandreas> ITS A MIRACLE
#6002 [21:58] <Mathuin> Sorry, they _bought_ SGI, then changed their name to SGI.
#6003 [21:58] <Mandreas> OMFG
#6004 [21:58] <RuneTheRed> what have they done?
#6005 [21:58] <Mandreas> NO MORE BOREDOM
#6006 [21:58] <Mathuin> They built many of the servers in the Amazon cloud. ;-)
#6007 [21:58] <RuneTheRed> I want to say one of my co-workers worked there...
#6008 [21:58] <Mathuin> Fremont or Redmond or elsewhere?
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#6010 [21:59] <RuneTheRed> possibly fremont? I might just be talking out my ass
#6011 [21:59] <Mathuin> RuneTheRed: I worked in the Fremont office for six years.
#6012 [21:59] <Mathuin> Got laid off almost exactly a year ago.
#6013 [21:59] <RuneTheRed> Mathuin: Do you know a Jeffery Kessler?
#6014 [21:59] <Mathuin> Not ringing any bells...
#6015 [22:00] <RuneTheRed> I'm probably confusing things in my head… PAY ME NO MIND
#6016 [22:00] <Liraxus> Huh
#6017 [22:00] <Liraxus> thats weird
#6018 [22:00] <RuneTheRed> Oh hey… my PC crashed.
#6019 [22:00] <Mathuin> 'sok.
#6020 [22:00] <Liraxus> You have to buy Premium
#6021 [22:00] <Liraxus> yet
#6022 [22:00] <Liraxus> you can still play minecraft
#6023 [22:00] <Mathuin> You can play for free if you want to play classic. I think.
#6024 [22:00] <Liraxus> Really
#6025 [22:00] <Mathuin> I paid a while ago, the last week you could and still get lifetime updates, so I don't know.
#6026 [22:00] <RuneTheRed> yup
#6027 [22:01] <Liraxus> When i clicked the download button on miencraft.net
#6028 [22:01] <Liraxus> It said i could play offline
#6029 [22:01] <RuneTheRed> I bought it like 5 minutes after I saw it
#6030 [22:01] <RuneTheRed> back in alpha
#6031 [22:01] <KA_Gamer_Away> !isdown minecraft.net
#6032 [22:01] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer_Away: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#6033 [22:01] <Mathuin> I saw it 6-8 months back but was too busy with being unemployed.
#6034 [22:02] <Liraxus> And im a 14 year old without a job
#6035 [22:02] <Liraxus> And my mom is stubborn to buy stuff that we don't need
#6036 [22:02] <RuneTheRed> So are most 14 year olds...
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#6040 [22:03] <Liraxus> sooo yeah
#6041 [22:03] <Liraxus> I can't really buy premium minecraft where ya can mod n stuff
#6042 [22:04] <RuneTheRed> Don't worry… one day you'll grow up and miss being 14… and then you'll go out and buy something you want for no other reason than the fact that you have a job and nobody can tell you no… and you'll never miss it again
#6043 [22:04] <Loggie> Does anyone else's minecraft keep crashing? Mines just goes black and I have to close it, once I reopen it I lose all my progress since the last save :W
#6044 [22:04] <SakamotoKazuma> mine is doing the same
#6045 [22:04] <RuneTheRed> yup same
#6046 [22:04] <Mathuin> The last time that happened to me, my video card got a good vacuuming.
#6047 [22:04] <RuneTheRed> every 15 minutes or so
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#6049 [22:05] <SakamotoKazuma> yeah I'm pretty sure it's not my video card. I just cleaned it, and have been raiding for the past couple nights....
#6050 [22:05] <KA_Gamer_Away> !isdown minecraft.net
#6051 [22:05] <SakamotoKazuma> pretty sure WoW is more graphics intensive than minecraft
#6052 [22:05] <GreyBot> KA_Gamer_Away: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#6054 [22:05] <Mathuin> SakamotoKazuma: Don't be completely sure.
#6055 [22:05] <SakamotoKazuma> oh?
#6056 [22:05] <RuneTheRed> it might not be as processor intensive as minecraft
#6057 [22:05] <Mathuin> I know MC works my system harder than WoW did, but I quit before cataclysm.
#6058 [22:06] <RuneTheRed> *claps for Mathuin* good for you
#6059 [22:06] <SakamotoKazuma> oh that I did not know
#6060 [22:06] <RuneTheRed> How long have you been clean?
#6061 [22:06] <Mathuin> RuneTheRed: three years now? the girl I played with dumped me so I gave it up and was happy to suddenly have 60 hours a week to do something else.
#6062 [22:06] <RuneTheRed> heh
#6063 [22:07] <Mathuin> Ugh. Doubling the maxdepth from 16 to 32 causes my tile generation to go from 28 seconds to 341 seconds.
#6064 [22:07] <Liraxus> Hey guys
#6065 [22:07] <RuneTheRed> *HISSSSSS* no Java… you do NOT get to install the yahoo toolbar on my web browser...
#6066 [22:07] <Liraxus> gimme a random seed
#6067 [22:07] <Mathuin> What's a reasonable maximum depth?
#6068 [22:08] <RuneTheRed> 3
#6069 [22:08] <Mathuin> RuneTheRed: Was that to Liraxus or me?
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#6071 [22:08] <RuneTheRed> Liraxus
#6072 [22:08] <synchronizer> Hello
#6073 [22:08] <Mathuin> was gonna say.
#6074 [22:08] <SakamotoKazuma> yeah.... it just crashed again...
#6075 [22:08] <RuneTheRed> ha! 3 is a perfectly reasonable depth! Why, you got something against the number 3?
#6076 [22:09] <synchronizer> I just attempted to try the very old free insite verison of minecraft, to tes compatibility, and accidentally denied the applet permission
#6077 [22:09] <Liraxus> Just gimme a random Seed
#6078 [22:09] <synchronizer> refreshing the page doesn't bring up the prompt again
#6079 [22:09] <synchronizer> I am using Firefox, how do I enable the applet?
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#6081 [22:09] <Mathuin> Woo it let me log in.
#6082 [22:09] <Mathuin> Awesome.
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#6084 [22:09] <RuneTheRed> anyway
#6085 [22:10] <RuneTheRed> minecraft is alive
#6086 [22:10] * GreyVulpine pokes Liraxus with [07:58.20pm] GreyBot «Grey@c-68-43-58-28.hsd1.mi.comcast.net» has Quit iRC (Read error: Conn
#6086 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> er
#6087 [22:10] <RuneTheRed> so my time here has expired
#6088 [22:10] <RuneTheRed> ta ta
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#6090 [22:10] * GreyVulpine pokes Liraxus with http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=189134
#6090 [22:10] <synchronizer> um
#6091 [22:10] <synchronizer> can anyone help me?
#6092 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> With?
#6093 [22:11] <synchronizer> I explained up there
#6094 [22:11] <synchronizer> I wa shoping someone would btoher...
#6095 [22:11] <Loggie> synchronizer, i''m not 100% sure, try tools > options > security > exceptions ( first one )
#6096 [22:11] <synchronizer> okay
#6097 [22:11] <synchronizer> let em see...
#6098 [22:12] <synchronizer> there's no options menu under tools in Firefox
#6099 [22:12] <synchronizer> ...hmmm
#6100 [22:12] <synchronizer> oh
#6101 [22:12] <synchronizer> I'm using mac osx
#6102 [22:12] <synchronizer> there must be a difference then in menu organization
#6103 [22:12] <Loggie> yeah, click the firefox name
#6104 [22:12] <Loggie> just next to the apple :)
#6105 [22:13] <Loggie> will probably be preferences on macos
#6106 [22:13] <synchronizer> thanks
#6107 [22:13] <synchronizer> but it doens't show the site for minecraft in the list
#6108 [22:13] <synchronizer> I'm afraid I might be doomed
#6109 [22:13] <synchronizer> XD
#6110 [22:14] <xales> synchronizer: what's the problem?
#6111 [22:14] <Loggie> he clicked deny on the box which asks if he wants to allow the minecraft applet
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#6113 [22:15] <synchronizer> hm
#6114 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Then um.
#6115 [22:15] <synchronizer> irc just crashed
#6116 [22:15] <synchronizer> so
#6117 [22:15] <synchronizer> uh
#6118 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Java applet control panel?
#6119 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> I haven no clue where that is on a mac though
#6120 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> have*
#6121 [22:15] <Loggie> brb
#6122 [22:16] <AndrewPH> i
#6123 [22:16] <AndrewPH> love
#6124 [22:16] <AndrewPH> aubot
#6125 [22:17] <AndrewPH> </3
#6126 [22:17] <synchronizer> there's a separate java control application
#6127 [22:17] <synchronizer> but it's not firefox related
#6128 [22:17] <synchronizer> so tht can't be it
#6129 [22:17] <synchronizer> sigh I really messed up
#6130 [22:19] <SakamotoKazuma> ok perfomance never spikes when minecraft crashes... starting to get annoying
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#6133 [22:21] <Loggie> synchronizer, did you get it fixed?
#6134 [22:22] <synchronizer> nope
#6135 [22:22] <synchronizer> I tried it in a different browser though
#6136 [22:22] <synchronizer> I don't know how to make it show that prompt again
#6137 [22:22] <KA_Gamer> Ok, I have server troubles. -_- Everything is set up right, but I can't come in the server. No one can.
#6138 [22:22] <KA_Gamer> Any suggestions
#6139 [22:23] <KA_Gamer> !check 71.85.198.153:50500
#6140 [22:23] <Loggie> Ok well I switched to mac osx - If you go to applications -> system utilities -> java preferences
#6141 [22:23] <Loggie> woops meant to backspace
#6142 [22:23] <KA_Gamer> The bot says it's all good.
#6143 [22:23] <synchronizer> I went there
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#6145 [22:23] <synchronizer> but I couldn't figure out what to do with it
#6146 [22:23] <lefedy> Hi all
#6147 [22:24] <lefedy> Anyone know why my portal won't transport me?
#6148 [22:24] <synchronizer> Loggie: found it
#6149 [22:24] <synchronizer> now what
#6150 [22:24] <lefedy> Any known bugs?
#6151 [22:24] <Loggie> Did you click on the minecraft entry and then then -?
#6152 [22:24] <Loggie> (in the security tab)
#6153 [22:24] <synchronizer> what minecraft entry
#6154 [22:25] <Loggie> Oh sorry, I just realised those are ones that you have allowed, gimme a sec :$
#6155 [22:26] <synchronizer> okay
#6156 [22:26] <lefedy> All I have to do is walk into a portal, correct?
#6157 [22:27] <Tris> for the nether?
#6158 [22:28] <synchronizer> Loggie: any luck?
#6159 [22:28] <lefedy> Tris: yeah.
#6160 [22:28] <Loggie> Still looking, just downloaded firefox there
#6161 [22:29] <Tris> after its lit, just stand in it
#6162 [22:29] <lefedy> Tris: I set the fire and now the portal is open but when I stand in it nothing happens
#6163 [22:29] <lefedy> hmmm
#6164 [22:30] <Kealper> lefedy: single player or multiplayer?
#6165 [22:30] <lefedy> Multi
#6166 [22:30] <Kealper> portals don't work in multi atm
#6167 [22:31] <lefedy> Oh okay.
#6168 [22:31] <lefedy> Good to know
#6169 [22:31] <lefedy> :-)
#6170 [22:31] <Kealper> when they are implemented in multi they will be able to do more than just link you to the nether, they will be able to link you to a whole different server
#6171 [22:31] <lefedy> Cool
#6172 [22:31] * GreyVulpine shakes fist, "Why won't you work, stupid redstone"
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#6173 [22:31] <Kealper> :o
#6174 [22:32] <lefedy> Kealper: thanks for the help
#6175 [22:32] <Kealper> np
#6176 [22:32] <Haiku_OS> Hi
#6177 [22:32] <lefedy> Off to build with obsidian then... instead of use portals ;-)
#6178 [22:32] <Kealper> ello
#6179 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Hey Kealper.. obsidian's banned on your server?
#6180 [22:32] <Kealper> indeed
#6181 [22:33] <Haiku_OS> I'm trying to play the multiplayer, but it keeps telling me bad login or error 503
#6182 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Bah.
#6183 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Haiku_OS - It's because minecraft is down
#6184 [22:33] <Kealper> well, none of the items are actually banned...just banned from that command
#6185 [22:33] <Haiku_OS> Oh
#6186 [22:33] <Haiku_OS> That's odd, the initial login worked
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#6188 [22:33] <Kealper> so you are free to get obsidian the legit way
#6189 [22:33] <Haiku_OS> Okay then, I guess I'll stick to SP for now :P
#6190 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> The server you're trying to connect to, is trying to auth to minecraft, and not getting a response back
#6191 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Offline servers don't have that problem right now
#6192 [22:34] <Haiku_OS> I see
#6193 [22:34] <Haiku_OS> Well I'll try again some other time then, thanks for the info
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#6195 [22:34] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at Kealper
#6195 [22:35] <Loggie> synchronizer, try going back to the java preferences window (applications -> utilities -> java preferences) then go to the network tab. Click on "view cache files" and delete "MinecraftLauncher.jar".
#6196 [22:35] <Kealper> what'd you need it for? i only blocked it because it's a PITA to remove when someone makes something with it -.-
#6197 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Oh, I was planning on making TNT in a circuit.. and didn't want to blow myself up..
#6198 [22:35] <Loggie> If ofcourse it exists. I was hoping firefox would let me deny the applet but instead it automatically accepted it :(
#6199 [22:35] <synchronizer> Loggie: launcher.jar doens't exist
#6200 [22:35] <synchronizer> but the original prompt does
#6201 [22:35] <synchronizer> let me see here
#6202 [22:36] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: just make sure the tnt is touching water, if it is, it does no harm to stuff around it
#6203 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> I could use the old water trick for TNT, but I haven't done that in a while
#6204 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> I don't remember how it works
#6205 [22:36] <Kealper> the tnt just has to be touching a source or flowing block of water on any side
#6206 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hmm, okay
#6207 [22:37] * Kealper drags his butt out to his main computer
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#6208 [22:38] <synchronizer> Loggie: still deosn't work
#6209 [22:38] <synchronizer> I deleted all the minecraft related files in the cache
#6210 [22:38] <Loggie> Hmm
#6211 [22:38] <synchronizer> :(
#6212 [22:38] <Loggie> and it works ok in another browser?
#6213 [22:39] <synchronizer> that would be because I actually clikced saccept that time
#6214 [22:40] <Loggie> Hmm.. there must be some way of fixing it :S
#6215 [22:40] <synchronizer> Loggie: not good
#6216 [22:40] <synchronizer> not good
#6217 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> bleh
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#6221 [22:44] <Loggie> Did you restart firefox after deleting the cache files?
#6222 [22:45] <Loggie> or atleast, close it before delete them?
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#6226 [22:50] <synchronizer> Loggie: no
#6227 [22:50] <synchronizer> let me try
#6228 [22:50] <Loggie> kk
#6229 [22:50] <synchronizer> aha
#6230 [22:50] <synchronizer> it works now
#6231 [22:50] <synchronizer> whoo
#6232 [22:50] <synchronizer> Thanks
#6233 [22:50] <synchronizer> (for the help
#6234 [22:51] <Loggie> Sweet!
#6235 [22:51] <Loggie> No bother :)
#6236 [22:52] <synchronizer> :D
#6237 [22:52] <synchronizer> Glad that worked
#6238 [22:52] <synchronizer> and indeed
#6239 [22:52] <synchronizer> minecraft works on my computer
#6240 [22:52] <synchronizer> good news
#6241 [22:53] <Loggie> Trying to remember my apple id for this appstore thing :o
#6242 [22:57] <CoLoN> wow still down?
#6243 [23:08] <CoLoN> servers still not working?
#6244 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Nope
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#6247 [23:14] <Runeslielo> Meep
#6248 [23:15] <Runeslielo> Can someone help me?
#6249 [23:15] <Kealper> depends
#6250 [23:15] <Kealper> and not the diapers
#6251 [23:15] <Kealper> what do ya need help with?
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#6253 [23:16] <Runeslielo> My Minecraft wont let me log into Multiplayer servers and play, when i log into them i just float through the void and dont load any chunks and then i get dced and it says Connection Reset
#6254 [23:16] <Kealper> that's weird...
#6255 [23:16] <Kealper> connected with localhost or external IP?
#6256 [23:16] <Runeslielo> my friends server so... external
#6257 [23:17] <Kealper> hmm....has this always done this?
#6258 [23:17] <Runeslielo> No, Just when the new patch came out
#6259 [23:18] <Kealper> ahh....this seems to be the bug that others have been having
#6260 [23:18] <Runeslielo> also the Chat Lags for like 5 min before what i said is written
#6261 [23:18] <Kealper> they will randomly get retarded amounts of lag to specific servers, for no apparent reason :/
#6262 [23:18] <Runeslielo> So you have any no solution at the moment?
#6263 [23:18] <Kealper> but, by chance....have you done anything with your client? (HD texture fix?)
#6264 [23:19] <Runeslielo> \Ive reinstalled the new and old launcher
#6265 [23:19] <Runeslielo> i tried them both and neither of them work
#6266 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> What operating system?
#6267 [23:19] <Runeslielo> Xp
#6268 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> have you reinstalled the files in your %appdata%/.minecraft folder?
#6269 [23:20] <Kealper> also...on the new launcher, click the Options button and tell it to force redownload everything, then try again
#6270 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> or used the "Force game update" option on..
#6271 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> ^
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#6273 [23:21] <Runeslielo> umm gimme one sec
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#6276 [23:23] <jasper> Mmm
#6277 [23:27] <CoLoN> is there a new server version?
#6278 [23:27] <CoLoN> i cannot connect to my own server
#6279 [23:27] <Kealper> latest that i'm aware of is 1.3
#6280 [23:27] <Kealper> what error?
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#6282 [23:29] <CoLoN> no error
#6283 [23:29] <CoLoN> just wont connect?
#6284 [23:29] <CoLoN> failed to connect to server
#6285 [23:29] <CoLoN> connection timeout
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#6287 [23:29] <Kealper> is it running?
#6288 [23:29] <Kealper> lol
#6289 [23:29] <CoLoN> yes
#6290 [23:29] <xales> Kealper: timeout is almost always wrong ip/failed port forward
#6291 [23:29] <xales> refused = firewall, not running usually
#6292 [23:30] <xales> CoLoN: what IP are you using?
#6293 [23:30] <Kealper> xales: buttin' in on my watch >.>
#6294 [23:30] <Kealper> VoxelHead y u suck so much
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#6296 [23:31] <xales> Kealper: Dope wanted to put it in #minecraft
#6297 [23:31] <xales> ._.
#6298 [23:31] <Kealper> ._.
#6299 [23:32] <xales> I added a FAQ thingy to xalesbot
#6300 [23:32] <xales> .faq launcher
#6301 [23:32] <|Herobrine|> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#6302 [23:32] <xales> :)
#6303 [23:32] <xales> .addfaq Kealper :o
#6304 [23:32] <|Herobrine|> Saved Kealper as :o
#6305 [23:32] <xales> .faq Kealpr
#6306 [23:32] <xales> .faq Kealper
#6307 [23:32] <xales> gah flood control
#6308 [23:32] <xales> <.<
#6309 [23:32] <jonasm> Do you guys know how to appeal bans on #minecraft? My brother got me IP banned on there.
#6310 [23:32] <Kealper> want to see something that makes AuBot > all?
#6311 [23:32] <xales> Kealper: sure
#6312 [23:32] <Kealper> !info kealper
#6313 [23:32] <CoLoN> 97.81.101.85
#6314 [23:32] <xales> jonasm: post on the forum in the #minecraft section
#6315 [23:32] <Kealper> bastard bot
#6316 [23:32] <xales> CoLoN: did you port forward?
#6317 [23:33] <jonasm> On minecraftforum.net?
#6318 [23:33] <xales> yes
#6319 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> jonasm - on this forum
#6320 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=33
#6321 [23:33] <CoLoN> its been working before idk why it would not now?
#6322 [23:33] <jonasm> Just to let you know - I'm horrid on IRC, and I don't usually use Mcforums.
#6323 [23:33] <xales> CoLoN: it's possible your local IP changed, or your external
#6324 [23:33] <Kealper> xales: AuBot has had that !info command (settable per channel) since aubot v1 lol
#6325 [23:33] <CoLoN> let me check
#6326 [23:34] <CoLoN> thanks xales
#6327 [23:34] <CoLoN> :D
#6328 [23:34] <jonasm> Should I make a new topic?
#6329 [23:34] <xales> jonasm: yes
#6330 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#6331 [23:34] <jonasm> okay.
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#6333 [23:34] <Kealper> .info Minecraft - Minecraft is a game that is really awesome and this is better than Lorem Ipsum!
#6334 [23:34] <Kealper> !info minecraft
#6335 [23:34] <Kealper> fail parsing
#6336 [23:35] <Kreiger> How much bandwidth does MC take up if you are hosting on your own computer?
#6337 [23:35] <Kealper> get outta here AuBot, you're garbage
#6338 [23:35] <xales> Kreiger: quite a fair bit
#6339 [23:35] <Kealper> Kreiger: depends, how many people did you plan to have?
#6340 [23:35] <Kreiger> 2 or 3 including myself
#6341 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Kreiger - Total transfer bandwidth? Or upload stream?
#6342 [23:35] <Kealper> Kreiger: also go to http://speedtest.net and give us the resulting URL
#6343 [23:36] <Kealper> andwhen i say url, i mean the url to the result image after the test, not the actual url
#6344 [23:36] <Kreiger> yeah. speedtest result WHILE HOSTING MC is..
#6345 [23:36] <Kreiger> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1175899615.png
#6346 [23:36] <Kealper> well is anyone on it right now?
#6347 [23:37] <Kreiger> yes. 2 people
#6348 [23:37] <Kreiger> but one of them is so laggy it's unplayable
#6349 [23:37] <Kealper> meh....it's probably fine for a few people
#6350 [23:37] <Kealper> Kreiger: does he get like 5 minutes of lag?
#6351 [23:37] <Kreiger> well, it;s not.. so where sthe problem
#6352 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=190756
#6353 [23:37] <Kreiger> it comes and goes, but yeah
#6354 [23:37] * GreyVulpine points ^
#6354 [23:38] <Kreiger> huh.
#6355 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Short answer, it's 1.3, have him try turning down graphics, turning on frame limiter, turning off the smooth lighting
#6356 [23:39] <Kreiger> I regularly restream video games, movies and other stuff, and never have lag issues
#6357 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> If it doesn't help any, then it's 1.3, and nothing you can really do about it
#6358 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Until the next update
#6359 [23:39] <Kreiger> so 2 people at once shouldn't kill my connection.
#6360 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, it's not you, it's how 1.3 is coded
#6361 [23:39] <Kealper> Kreiger: also make sure he is not running any modifications to the game
#6362 [23:39] <Kreiger> one person on is fine
#6363 [23:39] <Kealper> ANY
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#6365 [23:40] <Kreiger> Does it matter if i'm running bukkit with essential plugins?
#6366 [23:40] <Kealper> probably not...you can try without bukkit but it will probably not fix the issue
#6367 [23:41] <Kealper> this issue seems to be with the 1.3 update, and appears totally random as to who gets affected
#6368 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I need a suggestion for a music block thingy after my second set of doors. Thinking of doing FFVII's victory theme
#6369 [23:41] <Kealper> lol
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#6371 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#6372 [23:42] <Mathuin> Dueling Banjos. The Axel-F theme from Beverly Hills Cop. Anything by The Cars.
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#6374 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Axel-F theme?
#6375 [23:43] * GreyVulpine looks up
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#6376 [23:43] <Kealper> oh gosh dueling banjos
#6377 [23:43] <Kealper> wait
#6378 [23:43] <Kealper> even better...
#6379 [23:43] <Kealper> Foggy Moutain Breakdown
#6380 [23:43] <Kealper> Mountain*
#6381 [23:44] * GreyVulpine looks up Kealper's suggestion
#6381 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear god
#6382 [23:44] <Kealper> i think even the bassline for that is as fast as redstone can go lol
#6383 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> I'm not implementing that with music blocks
#6384 [23:44] * Kealper plays thesong
#6384 [23:44] <Kealper> the song*
#6385 [23:44] <Kealper> yes, i do have that song >.>
#6386 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#6387 [23:45] <Mathuin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dASqLXiuomY -- axel f
#6388 [23:45] * GreyVulpine vetos kealper's suggestion
#6388 [23:45] <xales> Kealper
#6389 [23:45] <xales> did you see #minecraft get +m a few hours ago?
#6390 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> xales, no?
#6391 [23:46] <xales> oh, I thought you were there GreyVulpine
#6392 [23:46] <Kealper> i wasn't looking, why?
#6393 [23:46] <Kealper> i can scroll up for it though
#6394 [23:46] * xales could have sworn you said something after it got unmuted
#6394 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> I have a log of #minecraft, don't see +m on it
#6395 [23:46] <xales> ah well
#6396 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#6397 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> I see it now
#6398 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> [09:37.00pm] Visiiri sets mode: +m
#6399 [23:47] <xales> yeah
#6400 [23:47] <xales> it was very..interesting to have it be that quiet
#6401 [23:47] <xales> and it surprisingly solved the problem
#6402 [23:47] <Visiiri> Pong
#6403 [23:47] <Kealper> o.o
#6404 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> <GlowHeels> you guys are the worst fucking company ive ever fucking bought anything of and im getting a refund you stupid fucking knobheads HOW CAN YOU LET A GAME STAY DOWN FOR THIS LONG YOU FUCKING RETARDS?!
#6405 [23:47] <jonasm> Do you think asking about a modification here is bad?
#6406 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#6407 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Wow
#6408 [23:47] <Kealper> jonasm: you can try
#6409 [23:48] <Kealper> jonasm: if we don't know off the tops of our heads, we can redirect you to a channel that might
#6410 [23:48] <Diablothein> Kealpybby!
#6411 [23:48] <Kealper> ._.
#6412 [23:48] <jonasm> I was just asking if Mo'Creatures is up for 1.3_01
#6413 [23:48] <Kealper> that i have no idea
#6414 [23:48] * GreyVulpine pokes Mathuin - That's a great tune, I might get around to doing that in Minecraft some day.. but not right now
#6414 [23:49] <jonasm> minecraftforum isn't loading for me,
#6415 [23:49] <Kealper> if it's out for 1.3 then it probably works for 1.3_01
#6416 [23:49] <jonasm> :(
#6417 [23:49] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: I was trying to think of songs that I used to play on my C-64. :-)
#6418 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Was thinking something that isn't more than a dozen measures or so, something doorbell length
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#6421 [23:49] <Blabagas> hello
#6422 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#6423 [23:50] <Blabagas> Do you guys give support for mod help on here?
#6424 [23:50] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: the Nokia ringtones? :-)
#6425 [23:50] <Kealper> Firefox needs it's own midi player that uses their html5 player >.>
#6426 [23:50] * GreyVulpine stabs Mathuin.
#6426 [23:50] <Mathuin> Or... the Close Encounters song. :-)
#6427 [23:50] <Kealper> http://www.afn.org/~afn04133/e1m1.htm
#6428 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> E1m1? Doom?
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#6430 [23:51] <Kealper> :P
#6431 [23:51] <Blabagas> do you?
#6432 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Blabagas - Generally no.
#6433 [23:51] <Kealper> Blabagas: not usually
#6434 [23:51] <Blabagas> oh
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#6436 [23:51] <jonasm> Mathuin , Of the third kind?
#6437 [23:51] <Kealper> Blabagas: we can tell you where to go if we don't know about said mod though
#6438 [23:52] <Mathuin> jonasm: Exactly!!
#6439 [23:52] <jonasm> Mathuin: :D
#6440 [23:52] <Kealper> http://www.afn.org/~afn04133/e1m3.htm <-- that one is fun to play on my keyboard
#6441 [23:52] <Blabagas> well im getting a black screen when trying to install Minecolony
#6442 [23:52] <Kealper> Blabagas: probably not updated for the latest version of Minecraft yet then
#6443 [23:53] <Mathuin> The star wars theme is anothe reasy one.
#6444 [23:53] <Blabagas> it says it is though
#6445 [23:53] <jonasm> Mathuin, the starwars theme is almost TOO easy though.
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#6447 [23:53] <Mathuin> jonasm: move on to the imperial march. :-)
#6448 [23:54] <jonasm> Mathuin I wish I had enough redstone on my worlds.
#6449 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> I have done the first few measures of One Winged Angel, that was fun
#6450 [23:54] <Blabagas> so you guys got any ideas?
#6451 [23:54] <Mathuin> jonasm: you can always hax0r the server or social engineer it and get the admin to give you more.
#6452 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Was before repeater blocks came out, so it got big, real fast.
#6453 [23:54] <Mathuin> I can't imagine trying to make serious railways without free resources.
#6454 [23:54] <Kealper> Blabagas: do you have any other mods installed?
#6455 [23:54] <solocommand> looking to optimize for intel integrated on a laptop...any suggestions?
#6456 [23:55] <jonasm> Mathuin: I mostly play SSP, and I hate H4x.
#6457 [23:55] <Blabagas> Kealper: I have modloader as well because thats required
#6458 [23:55] <Mathuin> jonasm: I don't think of it as real h4x to get extra resources to solve problems. :-)
#6459 [23:56] <Kealper> Blabagas: no idea then...you could try asking in #risucraft though, they might be able to assist your further
#6460 [23:56] <jonasm> Mathuin: But then I'll do the whole... "Oh, it's just 64 diamonds.." Or "It's just 255 TNT"...
#6461 [23:56] <Blabagas> oh ok
#6462 [23:56] <jonasm> And Mathuin, I don't even know any Hack programs for a mac.
#6463 [23:56] <jonasm> I heard about InsideJob.. But that apparently hasn't been updated in ages.
#6464 [23:57] <solocommand> :O
#6465 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Wow, I'm surprised nobody's really come out with music using the new repeater blocks yet
#6466 [23:57] <jonasm> The Diodes?
#6467 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> They're still using the old redstone repeater blocks
#6468 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#6469 [23:57] <jonasm> I've been working on "Still Alive"
#6470 [23:57] <jonasm> Because it's easy.
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#6472 [23:58] <jonasm> The Diodes are really resource-heavy though.
#6473 [23:58] <solocommand> I've tried using optimine, but my fps isn't anyhwere near what it was a couple weeks ago :(
#6474 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, that guy that made the first tetris song updated it for the new diodes though
#6475 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> That's cool
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