#1 [00:00] <Coll> I dont understand
#2 [00:00] <Coll> erm
#3 [00:00] <Coll> actually
#4 [00:00] <Coll> let me fire up the program
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#6 [00:05] <aetherian> Kealper: upgrade your texture pack nao
#7 [00:06] <Kealper> it is updated...i just haved pushed it
#8 [00:06] <Kealper> not sure what i want to do with the beds
#9 [00:06] <Kealper> default texture for them right now, but idk, they look plain :/
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#11 [00:07] <Kealper> gimme a sec and i'll throw the latest one on my server
#12 [00:07] <cheshire> Any fellow linux users here who would like to help me?
#13 [00:07] <Kealper> cheshire: depends, what'd ya need help with?
#14 [00:08] <cheshire> gonna copy and paste this from one of my logs, hold on
#15 [00:08] <Kealper> wait!
#16 [00:08] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com
#17 [00:08] <cheshire> nono, its a description :P\
#18 [00:08] <cheshire> errors are already on pastebin
#19 [00:08] <Kealper> oh lol
#20 [00:08] <cheshire> Hey you fellow linux users. Just migrated from 10.04 to 10.10. I cp 'ed all my info from my old /home to my new /home. Then I -r chown 'ed it all to my new user and group. I'm trying to play minecraft now from my new installation but java keeps giving me an error. : http://pastebin.com/eX9U4zj2 For those who are wondering, I use a simple bash script that (use to work and) has all my java based options in it, that way I don't
#21 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> What is "minecraft"
#22 [00:09] <Kealper> ._.
#23 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> Can you ls there
#24 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> or "more minecraft"
#25 [00:10] <xales> GreyVulpine: you use more? ._.
#26 [00:10] <Kealper> better question
#27 [00:10] <xales> less is better
#28 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#29 [00:10] <aetherian> Kealper: what was the link again/
#30 [00:10] <xales> and that problem can be fixed by chmod +x minecraft.jar
#31 [00:10] <aetherian> *?
#32 [00:10] <Kealper> cheshire: what minecraft.jar are you launching?
#33 [00:10] <xales> GreyVulpine: on many Linux distros, more is just a symlink to less anyway
#34 [00:10] * GreyVulpine stabs xales
#34 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> More sounds better damnit!
#35 [00:11] <xales> :<
#36 [00:11] <xales> do you know what those are called, GreyVulpine?
#37 [00:11] <Kealper> aetherian: http://mc.kealper.com/files/QuandaryCustom.zip
#38 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> ?
#39 [00:11] <xales> they are called pagers
#40 [00:11] <xales> isn't that a silly name? ._.
#41 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#42 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> I'll page you...
#43 [00:12] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#43 [00:12] * xales hides behind Kealper
#43 [00:12] <cheshire> alrighty, let me answer all these questions at once. 'minecraft' is a bashscript i use to launch it. minecraft.jar is already +x and I've tried both the one from my old 10.04 backup one downloaded from mincecraft.net, and even my and older 1.2_02 jar
#44 [00:12] <xales> cheshire: how are you launching it?
#45 [00:12] <xales> also, I hope you didn't put the current directory in your PATH
#46 [00:12] <xales> doing that is like Linux Suicide
#47 [00:13] <Kealper> linux has a PATH?
#48 [00:13] <cheshire> haven't played with PATH.
#49 [00:13] <xales> Kealper: of course it does
#50 [00:13] <Kealper> TIL!
#51 [00:13] <xales> where else would it look for programs? ._.
#52 [00:13] <Kealper> i thought that was a windows-only thing lol
#53 [00:13] <Kealper> i thought linux just magically divined the info
#54 [00:13] <xales> cheshire: where is the 'minecraft' shell script located?
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#57 [00:13] <xales> Kealper: here
#58 [00:13] <xales> [rangernox@darksigns:2011/espernet]$ echo $PATH (02-27 23:24)
#59 [00:13] <cheshire> /usr/bin There is also a copy in my home folder.
#60 [00:14] <xales> /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin/:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
#61 [00:14] <cheshire> neither work
#62 [00:14] <ifish> Kealper, that was a fucking nightmare...
#63 [00:14] <xales> cheshire: can you pastebin (http://pastebin.com/) the contents of it?
#64 [00:14] <ifish> The internet was so messed up
#65 [00:14] <Kealper> ifish: care to elaborate? lol
#66 [00:14] <Kealper> O.o
#67 [00:14] <ifish> I have no idea
#68 [00:14] <ifish> It wouldn't let me get on the web
#69 [00:14] <ifish> !check
#70 [00:14] <ifish> ;___;
#71 [00:15] * ifish gives up
#71 [00:15] <cheshire> xales: I don't remember what it use to be as of all day I've been trying to get this to work, so through trial and many errors I've written it over to...
#72 [00:15] <cheshire> damn I'm tired
#73 [00:15] <Kealper> ifish: beg GreyVulpine to check out the forwarding....i probably just did it wrong...can't say i've worked with forwarding in that type of router before :/
#74 [00:15] <cheshire> what I was trying to say was that I rewrote it a couple of times
#75 [00:15] <xales> you should be able to just launch it with `java -jar minecraft.jar`
#76 [00:15] * ifish gets on his hands and knees
#76 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#77 [00:15] <ifish> Hai, GreyVulpine
#78 [00:16] <ifish> :P
#79 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> PM me TV info
#80 [00:16] <Kealper> lol
#81 [00:16] <cheshire> #!/bin/bash
#82 [00:16] <ifish> ...Was that aimed at me?>
#83 [00:16] <cheshire> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#84 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes ifish
#85 [00:16] <ifish> TV info?
#86 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> teamviewer
#87 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> whatever
#88 [00:16] <ifish> Oh
#89 [00:16] <ifish> I was like.... Samsung?
#90 [00:16] <ifish> :P
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#92 [00:16] <Kealper> lol
#93 [00:16] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper for that
#93 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Now then
#94 [00:17] <Kealper> xD
#95 [00:17] <xales> cheshire: you don't need to launch it like that
#96 [00:17] <xales> and in fact, shouldn't any more
#97 [00:17] <xales> just use `java -jar minecraft.jar`
#98 [00:17] <lemon-rev> i was in forurms reading things, someone mentioned scarecows anything on that ?
#99 [00:17] <cheshire> xales: Normally
#100 [00:17] <xales> (also, the filename is lowercase now, unless you renamed it)
#101 [00:17] <ifish> GreyVulpine, DONE
#102 [00:17] <cheshire> Normally I don't
#103 [00:17] <Kealper> lemon-rev: it has been poked at
#104 [00:18] <lemon-rev> i see
#105 [00:18] <cheshire> I was just pulling my hair out and trying everything I could think of
#106 [00:18] <xales> cheshire: what happens when you run it with just `java -jar minecraft.jar`?
#107 [00:18] <cheshire> I get...
#108 [00:18] <cheshire> hold on
#109 [00:18] <cheshire> opening chromium
#110 [00:19] <cheshire> http://pastebin.com/8EhXEwPw and still waiting for a screen to pop up
#111 [00:19] <cheshire> thats with the new jar
#112 [00:22] <cheshire> gonna try the old jar I have
#113 [00:22] <xales> that's normal
#114 [00:22] <xales> you can safely ignore that error
#115 [00:22] <cheshire> xales: its more of that no window has popped up
#116 [00:22] <cheshire> I'm still waiting
#117 [00:22] <cheshire> eating up all my atom processor
#118 [00:22] <xales> try renaming the ~/.minecraft folder
#119 [00:22] <Kealper> >atom
#120 [00:22] <xales> then running it again
#121 [00:23] <cheshire> Kealper: I == broke
#122 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Was that the right ip address when you put it in the d-link port fowarding?
#123 [00:23] <Kealper> it's the one he gave me, so idk
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#125 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> It wasn't..
#126 [00:24] <ifish> Thanks GreyVulpine :)
#127 [00:24] <ifish> !check
#128 [00:24] <Kealper> ifish: you put the wrong ip into the field for the server's ip >.>
#129 [00:24] <Kealper> denied
#130 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Can I get back in?
#131 [00:24] <ifish> GRIM?!?!?
#132 [00:24] * ifish is getting pissy
#132 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Easy there..
#133 [00:24] <ifish> Sorry
#134 [00:25] <cheshire> woah, I have a .minecraft folder in my .minecraft folder
#135 [00:25] <cheshire> with different saves???
#136 [00:25] <Kealper> I N C E P T I O N
#137 [00:25] <cheshire> tf?
#138 [00:26] <cheshire> hold on
#139 [00:27] <aetherian> wha\
#140 [00:27] <aetherian> /wha\
#141 [00:27] <cheshire> backing up all my saves, including these new ones (I don't have a world 4 save but there is one here 0.0) then I'm gonna say fuck it, delete my .minecraft folder and redownload the jar file
#142 [00:28] <xales> cheshire: just rename the .minecraft folder
#143 [00:28] <xales> you might want one of the saves =/
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#145 [00:28] <relsqui> hence "backing up all my saves" I think :)
#146 [00:28] <cheshire> xales: I'm backing them up
#147 [00:28] <cheshire> :P
#148 [00:29] <xales> oh
#149 [00:29] <xales> whatever
#150 [00:29] <Coll> well
#151 [00:29] <Coll> I had to make the XOR gate bigger then needed but it seems to be working
#152 [00:30] <cheshire> huh, that cleared up 300 megs of space ?_?
#153 [00:31] <cheshire> and...
#154 [00:31] <cheshire> the launcher appeared!
#155 [00:31] <Kealper> :o
#156 [00:31] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#156 [00:31] * ifish feels really dumb
#156 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Okay, he wasn't using that computer to serve
#157 [00:31] <Kealper> do i get bapped for something stupid?
#158 [00:31] <Kealper> ._.
#159 [00:31] <xales> .bap Kealper
#160 [00:31] * M baps Kealper violently
#160 [00:32] <Kealper> !check 173.179.155.38
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#162 [00:33] <Coll> Hey Grey mind checking out this circut
#163 [00:33] <ifish> GreyVulpine, I feel so bad for wasting your time
#164 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> No worries ifish
#165 [00:33] <ifish> I'll PM you the new infio
#166 [00:33] <ifish> info*
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#171 [00:34] <ifish> Done
#172 [00:36] <cheshire> alrighty, now its time to start crafting :D
#173 [00:37] <Kealper> ok....i'm afk for a few hours for a movie
#174 [00:37] <ifish> Good night Kealper
#175 [00:37] <Kealper> never said i was going to sleep, just afk for a while :P
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#177 [00:38] <Kealper> what the fuck VoxelHead
#178 [00:38] <xales> lol
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#181 [00:38] <xales> it will...
#182 [00:38] <xales> yeah
#183 [00:38] <xales> do that
#184 [00:38] <xales> ._.
#185 [00:38] <M> ._.
#186 [00:38] <Kealper> ._.
#187 [00:38] <xales> lemme fix
#188 [00:39] <ifish> Kealper, but I'll probablky be asleep :P
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#190 [00:39] <cheshire> quick question
#191 [00:39] * VoxelHead kicked AG_Elias from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
#192 [00:39] <Coll> I dont see any nick spam
#193 [00:39] <Kealper> Coll: voxel is set to retarded settings for what it calls spam
#194 [00:39] <Sqozza> Naughty bot!
#195 [00:39] * Sqozza slaps VoxelHead
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#196 [00:40] <Kealper> stupid bot :/
#197 [00:40] <Sqozza> BAN EVASION
#198 [00:40] <Sqozza> BANBANBAN
#199 [00:40] <Sqozza> :3
#200 [00:40] <AG_Scott> ^noob
#201 [00:40] <cheshire> where would be a good place to put the minecraft.jar file that isn't in my ~/ folder (I don't want it cluttering my home folder)
#202 [00:40] <xales> cheshire: ~/games/?
#203 [00:40] <AG_Scott> Your downloads folder?
#204 [00:40] <AG_Elias> /minecraft/
#205 [00:40] <AG_Elias> ?
#206 [00:41] <cheshire> I still view that as cluttering. I don't like things being in there that don't have to be
#207 [00:42] <xolotl> cheshire: /usr/local/games/minecraft ?
#208 [00:42] <xolotl> cheshire: /opt/minecraft ?
#209 [00:42] <xolotl> cheshire: /var/spool/mail/../../run/../../etc/../usr/lib ?
#210 [00:43] <cheshire> xD
#211 [00:43] <xolotl> /boot/.omghidden/minecraft ?
#212 [00:43] <xales> lol
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#214 [00:43] <xales> .omghidden
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#216 [00:44] <ifish> GreyVulpine: This is the server
#217 [00:44] <xolotl> I really have to finish my main-base remodel; I'm sick of cows dropping in on me
#218 [00:44] <ifish> !check
#219 [00:44] <ifish> .____.;
#220 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> Did you run the server?
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#222 [00:44] <ifish> Not yet
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#224 [00:44] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#224 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> Gotta run the server before checking it
#225 [00:44] <Avox49> This is also ifish :P
#226 [00:45] <ifish> I'll run the server now
#227 [00:45] <Avox49> Running
#228 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> It works
#229 [00:45] <ifish> !check
#230 [00:45] <ifish> :o
#231 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Check server's console
#232 [00:45] <Avox49> Woo hoo!
#233 [00:45] <Avox49> Thanks mate!
#234 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm
#235 [00:46] <ifish> I owe you all big time
#236 [00:46] <ifish> Was it laggy?
#237 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Didn't seem like it
#238 [00:48] <ifish> Yay. I now have a use for this computer
#239 [00:48] <ifish> All my sister uses it for is her music for her iPad >__>;;
#240 [00:48] <cheshire> what is this 'world 4' save??? I swear, my old filesystem was just saying 'f-u' all the time
#241 [00:49] <ifish> GreyVulpine, I'm guessing I have to watch my language here?
#242 [00:49] <aetherian> back
#243 [00:49] <ifish> If so, I'm sorry for before
#244 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Hmm? No?
#245 [00:50] <ifish> Oh... :/
#246 [00:51] <ifish> I wonder.... Would it be possible to move my "World 1" from my minecraft for the server to play on?
#247 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> It is
#248 [00:51] <ifish> :O
#249 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Just delete the existing 'world' folder in your server's directory
#250 [00:52] <ifish> And place mine there?
#251 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Move over the World1 folder from your saves.. and rename it to "world'
#252 [00:52] <ifish> Sounds painless enough
#253 [00:52] <ifish> Thanks
#254 [00:53] <cheshire> have you guys ever seen errors like this before? http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/theyain/lookatthat.png
#255 [00:54] <ifish> How's that an error?
#256 [00:54] <lemon-rev> lol
#257 [00:54] <lemon-rev> yea
#258 [00:54] <ifish> Sorry if that's a noob question :P
#259 [00:54] <cheshire> the entire world is like. It didn't use to be
#260 [00:54] <ifish> Oh, haha
#261 [00:54] <lemon-rev> oh, is that like muliplayer by any chance ?
#262 [00:54] <cheshire> every other line of chunks is messed up
#263 [00:54] <cheshire> lemon-rev: nope, personal save :o
#264 [00:54] <lemon-rev> then i think your world is totally messed up
#265 [00:55] <cheshire> lemon-rev: No kidding
#266 [00:55] <lemon-rev> but appart from that, it kinda looks normal is anything else wrong like digging or building ?
#267 [00:55] <ifish> Oh, I have a dumb question; people at school said if I buy Minecraft in beta I won't get the full version. Is that true? :P
#268 [00:55] <ifish> If it is I don't really mind, but it would suck if it was
#269 [00:55] <lemon-rev> bah, ifish you buy beta you get full version when done
#270 [00:56] <ifish> That's what I thought
#271 [00:56] <ifish> Thanks for confirming
#272 [00:56] <cheshire> I wonder, whats the difference (besides price and epenis size) in buying it when it was alpha and beta?
#273 [00:56] <lemon-rev> oh btw, ifish check out minecraft.net they acaully have stats showing how many people signed up in 24 hours and brought the game, and are playing it, its sad to see about 30% of people signed in have acually brought the game
#274 [00:57] <ifish> One makes you feel like you're a wamnabe :P
#275 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Alpha users are promised future expansions beyond the full version, if and when Notch decides on them
#276 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> There has been no word on them otherwise.
#277 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, the only difference is 5 euros
#278 [00:57] <ifish> lemon-rev, notch can see pirated games?
#279 [00:57] <lemon-rev> well they can see people who have signed in and yes
#280 [00:58] <ifish> Oh, nevermind
#281 [00:58] <lemon-rev> brought the game or otherwise
#282 [00:58] <ifish> I used to have a free account
#283 [00:58] <ifish> But made a new one under my not bullshit e-mail :P
#284 [00:59] <cheshire> GreyVulpine: The site is a little vague on that (the grammar is confusing. I know grammar nazi's who say the same thing). What really sucks is my paypal transaction (wire money from bank to paypal) didn't go through until the day after it went to beta -_-
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#286 [01:02] <ifish> Only thing I don't like about Minecraft is how CPU intensive Java is
#287 [01:02] <ifish> And I have a really bad PC so it's difficult to play well
#288 [01:02] <cheshire> ifish: install Optimine
#289 [01:02] <cheshire> it's a mod that makes it no so intensive
#290 [01:03] <ifish> ....Wow. I'll look into it
#291 [01:03] <lemon-rev> hahaha, everytime I decide to go digging for the surface i build a tall stone piller so i can see how far away from base i am and its now soo far off into distance i can bleary see the furthest piller lol
#292 [01:03] <cheshire> I'm on a netbook and with that mod I actually get somewhere 30 fps
#293 [01:04] <ifish> Will it affect my ability to update Mincraft when it updates?
#294 [01:04] <xales> ifish: the update will remove the mod
#295 [01:04] <ifish> I'm SOO thankful for the bed. I HATE night time
#296 [01:04] <ifish> I see :P
#297 [01:04] <ifish> I cannot find the mod....
#298 [01:06] <cheshire> ifish: give me a minute and I'll find it for you
#299 [01:07] <cheshire> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=132717
#300 [01:07] <lemon-rev> http://img148.imageshack.us/i/dangernicelookinghillsi.jpg/ < i like this :)
#301 [01:07] <cheshire> make sure you READ THE WHOLE POST FIRST
#302 [01:07] <ifish> cheshire, will do.
#303 [01:07] <ifish> Thank you
#304 [01:08] <ifish> Slow site is slow :P
#305 [01:08] <cheshire> loaded as fast as chromium could render it for me :o
#306 [01:08] <relsqui> I have a #minecraft help question, as opposed to a minecraft help question
#307 [01:08] <ifish> You use linux?
#308 [01:08] <xales> relsqui: :o
#309 [01:08] <relsqui> what's the difference between #minecraft and #mcchatter, other than people talk in one of them?
#310 [01:08] <cheshire> ifish: who me?
#311 [01:08] <xales> relsqui: nothing really
#312 [01:08] <ifish> 502 bad gatewar error.
#313 [01:08] <ifish> cheshire, yes
#314 [01:09] <xales> #mcchatter isn't official
#315 [01:09] <relsqui> I'm trying to get a sense of what it's okay to talk about in #mcchatter but so far I can't because no one has said anything since I joined :P
#316 [01:09] <cheshire> just refresh it
#317 [01:09] <xales> and isn't used that much
#318 [01:09] <relsqui> it claims it's stricter about being on topic
#319 [01:09] <xales> (like ever)
#320 [01:09] <cheshire> and yes I do
#321 [01:09] <xolotl> relsqui: In general #minecraft is what #mcchatter is *supposed* to be
#322 [01:09] <xolotl> :)
#323 [01:09] <ifish> cheshire, which distro? ;o
#324 [01:09] <xales> relsqui: that was..a very long time ago
#325 [01:09] <relsqui> ah :P
#326 [01:09] <xales> #minecraft used to enforce on-topic
#327 [01:09] <relsqui> okay, nuts to it then
#328 [01:09] <xales> but it was just stupid
#329 [01:09] <cheshire> ubuntu. to lazy to go to anything else. Haven't used windows in a long time
#330 [01:10] <ifish> I use Jolicloud when I'm not on Windows or Mac OS X
#331 [01:10] <cheshire> I have a backup of it, but its only to play fallout 2
#332 [01:10] <relsqui> !check 72.241.193.187
#333 [01:11] <cheshire> for those who use mods, whats the difference in BetterLight and the new light engine? Cause I can't really tell (from screenshots)
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#335 [01:11] * dopeghoti slowly looks around
#335 [01:11] <relsqui> cheshire: afaik there isn't one
#336 [01:11] <xales> cheshire: the new light system is betterlight afaik
#337 [01:11] <relsqui> cheshire: the new light engine IS betterlight
#338 [01:11] <dopeghoti> I really.. don't like the new lighting.
#339 [01:11] <xolotl> dopeghoti: Yeah, I've been staying on the classic lighting
#340 [01:11] <xales> dopeghoti: it's pretty but ugly at the same time..
#341 [01:12] <xolotl> Everything looks too dark on the new one
#342 [01:12] <xolotl> (IMO of course)
#343 [01:12] <cheshire> then what the hell are people in #minecraft on freenode smoking? several people kept telling me that BetterLight is 'better'
#344 [01:12] <relsqui> xolotl: yeah!
#345 [01:12] <relsqui> cheshire: crack is what they are smoking
#346 [01:12] <xales> ^
#347 [01:12] <dopeghoti> "It's right there on the label and everything."
#348 [01:12] <ifish> Can a hand full of you try something for me? I wanna see how many people my server can handle
#349 [01:12] <relsqui> dopeghoti: I can't read the label because I'm a hologram
#350 [01:12] <relsqui> haha
#351 [01:12] <xolotl> I actually do like the way it *looks*. Suppose I could probably just fiddle with some brightness settings or something. :)
#352 [01:12] <cheshire> !check your.mom
#353 [01:12] <cheshire> aww
#354 [01:12] <relsqui> xolotl: yeah, exactly
#355 [01:12] <relsqui> xolotl: there's also a couple parts of it that are just downright illogical
#356 [01:12] <cheshire> wtf
#357 [01:13] <relsqui> xolotl: breaking block x should not affect the light on block y, but it does
#358 [01:13] <dopeghoti> I just think that the smooth lighting gradients are at offs with Minecraft's whole block motif.
#359 [01:13] <cheshire> your mom has an ip of 208.68.139.38???
#360 [01:13] <dopeghoti> What next; replacing cubes with NURBS?
#361 [01:13] <xales> cheshire: that's opendns
#362 [01:13] <xales> failing to resolve it
#363 [01:13] <xales> !check i.am.full.of.derp
#364 [01:13] <cheshire> xales: lmao
#365 [01:13] <xales> lol
#366 [01:13] <xales> Kealper I brokeded it
#367 [01:14] <ifish> !check 192.168.0.198
#368 [01:14] * dopeghoti can't stand "helpful" DNS servers that do that.
#368 [01:14] <xolotl> relsqui: At least it's optional. :)
#369 [01:14] * dopeghoti hugs 8.8.8.8
#369 [01:14] <ifish> !check 173.179.155.38
#370 [01:14] <cheshire> !check me
#371 [01:14] <ifish> :o
#372 [01:14] <AG_Elias> !check chserver.net
#373 [01:14] * ifish body checks cheshire
#373 [01:14] <dopeghoti> !check yourself.before.you.wreck.yourself
#374 [01:14] <cheshire> aww, AuBot wouldn't check me
#375 [01:14] <relsqui> xolotl: yeah. I wish I could have the smooth and also the sensible, though :)
#376 [01:15] <xolotl> heh
#377 [01:15] <xales> dopeghoti: I need to change DNS on my router (I used OpenDNS before it because dumb) but I don't remember the password
#378 [01:15] <xolotl> Perhaps it'll see some tweaking in the future
#379 [01:15] <relsqui> one hopes
#380 [01:15] <dopeghoti> xales: password? You don't use public keys?
#381 [01:15] <cheshire> !check your_mom
#382 [01:15] <xales> and the Verizon tech set it up in some kind of insane bridge with the fiber-box-thing-i-cant-remember-the-name-of
#383 [01:15] <xales> and because I don't know the password
#384 [01:15] <cheshire> L:o
#385 [01:15] <ifish> I wonder..... Should I put another RAM atick into the server?
#386 [01:15] <xales> I can't look at the settings
#387 [01:15] <xales> =/
#388 [01:15] <ifish> or should 1 GB be OK?
#389 [01:15] <xales> dopeghoti: it's a router.
#390 [01:15] <xales> a bad one at that.
#391 [01:15] <xolotl> Does anyone else have a sheep-punching problem?
#392 [01:16] <dopeghoti> xales: password? You don't use public keys for your router?
#393 [01:16] <xales> it has no support for public keys :P
#394 [01:16] <xolotl> I cannot let a sheep go unpunched
#395 [01:16] <relsqui> xolotl: like, an addiction?
#396 [01:16] <cheshire> ifish: 1gig is like bare minimum for running a mc server
#397 [01:16] <relsqui> haha
#398 [01:16] <xolotl> Even if it's like, way the hell away
#399 [01:16] <xales> cheshire: that's not even enough
#400 [01:16] <xolotl> I have this gigantic stash of wool
#401 [01:16] <xales> unless you are running like tinycore linux
#402 [01:16] <ifish> xolotl, sheep are REALY dumb in this game. I've had 4 fall into lava....
#403 [01:16] <xales> and absolutely nothing else
#404 [01:16] <xolotl> ifish: heh
#405 [01:16] <Chrono> im trying to see if my server works. anyone help me with the bot?
#406 [01:16] <ifish> cheshire, I'll work on getting another GB
#407 [01:16] <relsqui> ifish: animals are attracted to light
#408 [01:16] <ifish> relsqui, I know :P
#409 [01:16] <relsqui> ifish: "oooooh shiny! *trot trot* *sizzle*" repeat
#410 [01:16] <xolotl> ifish: Pretty dumb in RL, really, though I imagine they might fare better with lava interactions
#411 [01:16] <ifish> That's why they always spawn in my house -__-
#412 [01:17] <relsqui> yeah. if you don't like it don't have a grass floor :)
#413 [01:17] <xales> cheshire: use the bot
#414 [01:17] <xales> say "!check (ip)"
#415 [01:17] <xales> err
#416 [01:17] <xales> cheshire: rather
#417 [01:17] <xales> dammit
#418 [01:17] <xales> Chrono:
#419 [01:17] <xales> I fail
#420 [01:17] <cheshire> lmao
#421 [01:17] <Chrono> lol
#422 [01:17] <xales> Chrono: say "!check (ip)"
#423 [01:17] <xales> there we go
#424 [01:17] <Chrono> thanks
#425 [01:17] <ifish> cheshire, wanna test getting on my server?
#426 [01:17] <cheshire> ifish: sure, why not
#427 [01:17] <dopeghoti> xolotl: My plans on meatspace interactions with magma consist of one directive: "Don't."
#428 [01:17] <ifish> 173.179.155.38
#429 [01:17] <ifish> ^ip
#430 [01:18] <Chrono> !check (72.241.193.187:25565)
#431 [01:18] <cheshire> hey xales, 1 gig would be enough on something like Menuet OS
#432 [01:18] <cheshire> the entire os is written in assembly
#433 [01:18] <xolotl> dopeghoti: Probably a good policy. :)
#434 [01:18] <cheshire> very efficient :o
#435 [01:18] <xales> cheshire: only if you had nothing else open at all
#436 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. does Y go from 0 to 128 now, instead of -64 to 64?
#437 [01:18] <Chrono> !check 72.241.193.187:25565
#438 [01:19] <cheshire> you spawn underwater
#439 [01:19] <cheshire> :o
#440 [01:19] <ifish> How do I chat in minecraft? lol
#441 [01:19] <cheshire> t
#442 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> "T"
#443 [01:19] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: I forgive Java a lot of things, but the lack of unsigned datatypes continues to vex me thoroughly
#444 [01:19] <xales> Chrono: if the port is 25565 then you don't need to include it
#445 [01:20] <ifish> Woo, thanks for helping me test two people cheshire
#446 [01:20] <cheshire> your server has a black pig :o
#447 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> I'm confused.
#448 [01:20] <Chrono> ah ok
#449 [01:20] <ifish> Works without lag!
#450 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft's upper limit now is 129?
#451 [01:20] <Chrono> !check 72.241.193.187
#452 [01:20] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: No, it's 0-127
#453 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> I'm looking at my f3 coordinates right now
#454 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> It's telling me Y: 129.62
#455 [01:21] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: The position reported by the client is your char's head, I think
#456 [01:21] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Which can be above the actual chunk limit
#457 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Hmm okay
#458 [01:21] <ifish> I hope hte server doesn't crash. lol
#459 [01:21] <Chrono> <------- failing
#460 [01:21] <Chrono> lol
#461 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Was I imagining it then, I thought the lower limit of Y in MC was -64
#462 [01:22] <xales> Chrono: what IP address are you forwarding to?
#463 [01:23] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Might have been at some point; not really sure. It's been zero since at least a little before the Halloween update, though
#464 [01:23] <xales> Chrono: it sounds like you port forwarded wrong
#465 [01:23] <xolotl> (when I first started poking into the map format stuff)
#466 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I haven't looked at the coordinates in a while, it might have been changed then
#467 [01:23] * xolotl turns up the vsnares a bit
#467 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Thanks.
#468 [01:24] <xales> ??> Chrono irc/dontpm
#469 [01:24] <VoxelHead> Chrono: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#470 [01:24] <xales> Chrono: when you set up the port-forward, what address did you forward to?
#471 [01:24] <Chrono> sorry
#472 [01:24] <xales> it's ok :)
#473 [01:24] <ifish> So, cheshire, it lags?
#474 [01:24] <ifish> Like... a lot?
#475 [01:24] <Chrono> its my internal IP
#476 [01:24] <cheshire> who is big time
#477 [01:24] <cheshire> erf
#478 [01:24] <xales> Chrono: which is?
#479 [01:24] <cheshire> big time
#480 [01:25] <ifish> :(
#481 [01:25] <Chrono> one sec
#482 [01:25] <ifish> My PC sucks :3
#483 [01:25] <cheshire> whats the specs of your 'server'?
#484 [01:25] <ifish> 3.00GHz single-core CPU. 1gB OF ram
#485 [01:25] <Chrono> xales: 192.168.1.4
#486 [01:25] <ifish> Not much
#487 [01:25] <ifish> It is just my sisters desktop that she donated to me
#488 [01:25] <xales> Chrono: can you connect using that IP?
#489 [01:26] <gothroach> 1GB of RAM will be tough with MC.
#490 [01:26] <ifish> Maybe I'll pick up another stick
#491 [01:26] <gothroach> Even 2gb would be a vast improvement.
#492 [01:26] <Chrono> xales: ya, im running the server on my desktop
#493 [01:26] <xolotl> FWIW, my little server only has 1GB and the MC server runs fine. I've never had more than about three or four concurrent users
#494 [01:26] <ifish> Probably not since I'm cheap :P
#495 [01:26] <xales> gothroach: tough? that's an understatement
#496 [01:26] <cheshire> ifish: know the motherboard specs?
#497 [01:26] <xales> Chrono: did you put any IP in the server.properties file?
#498 [01:26] <ifish> cheshire, like what?
#499 [01:26] <ifish> The GPU I don't know
#500 [01:26] <gothroach> xolotl: I have a small MC server with 1.2gb RAM that does 5 players alright :P
#501 [01:26] <relsqui> fwiw, on ifish's server just now I was getting block lag with two players on
#502 [01:27] <ifish> relsqui, lol :P
#503 [01:27] <Chrono> xales: nope, left it open
#504 [01:27] <xales> relsqui: you would be, with 1GB of RAM, probably always getting block lag
#505 [01:27] <cheshire> ddr type, what kind of fsb speed it has, etc does it take intel or amd
#506 [01:27] <cheshire> etc
#507 [01:27] <xales> Chrono: do you have a firewall running?
#508 [01:27] <ifish> intel Pentium 4
#509 [01:27] <relsqui> xales: oddly enough I got 0 of it when working with wood (trees, crafting table) but 100% trying to mine stone
#510 [01:27] <xolotl> xales: As I say, I actually don't get lag at all on my 1GB-RAM server
#511 [01:27] <ifish> Um... I think it's DDR2
#512 [01:27] <xales> xolotl: is the 1GB RAM server running Windows? :)
#513 [01:28] <cheshire> I'm a hardware/electronics (as in good, old soldering) geek
#514 [01:28] <xolotl> xales: Ah, well that could be a stickier wicket. :) No, Loonix.
#515 [01:28] <xales> or, any sort of GUI at all?
#516 [01:28] <ifish> Yes ;x
#517 [01:28] <Chrono> xales: ya, but i dont have anyway of allowing minecraft through it, just the java binary
#518 [01:28] <gothroach> Then you have a ton less available to MC.
#519 [01:28] <xolotl> xales: Nah, headless thing in the basement.
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#521 [01:28] <xales> Chrono: what firewall is it? some are known to have serious issues
#522 [01:28] <cheshire> not to mention running it on windows is a good way to run the ping up
#523 [01:28] <ifish> Maybe I'll dual-boot linux. But probably not. Since this isn't really my computer
#524 [01:29] <cheshire> ifish: just install it to a flashdrive
#525 [01:29] <cheshire> wait
#526 [01:29] <cheshire> bad idea
#527 [01:29] <ifish> My only flashdrive is 8GB :P
#528 [01:29] <Chrono> xales: i just use windows. i use free avg so i dont think that has any firewall software
#529 [01:29] <ifish> And I need it for school
#530 [01:29] <cheshire> mc is read/write intensive
#531 [01:29] <xales> Chrono: no other security software?
#532 [01:29] <cheshire> and you don't want to do that over usb 2.0
#533 [01:29] <cheshire> anywho
#534 [01:29] <cheshire> I'm going to bed
#535 [01:29] <xales> cheshire: any USB at all <.<
#536 [01:29] <ifish> Good night cheshire
#537 [01:29] <cheshire> xales: not on 3.0
#538 [01:29] <xales> g'night cheshire
#539 [01:30] <Chrono> xales: nope, just windows and avg
#540 [01:30] <xales> cheshire: 3.0 would still be bad
#541 [01:30] <ifish> How about via Light Peak? :3
#542 [01:30] <ifish> I'm getting the new MacBook Pro with my computer funds in summer
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#544 [01:30] <xales> Chrono: try turning off Windows Firewall - it might help, and it's a laughable piece of junk to begin with. Plus, if you are behind a router, a firewall does exactly nothing but cause problems.
#545 [01:30] <cheshire> xales: not really. They removed that horrible 'feature' in 3.0
#546 [01:30] <xales> cheshire: transfer rate still too low for it to not be laggy
#547 [01:31] <cheshire> 5 gbps is faster then most sata drives do
#548 [01:31] <xales> wait, what
#549 [01:31] <xales> 3.0 is that fast
#550 [01:31] <cheshire> yup
#551 [01:31] <xales> I just assumed it was still slow as hell <.<
#552 [01:31] <gothroach> cheshire: That's burst speed.
#553 [01:31] <ifish> The Thunderbold port is 10 GBPS :P
#554 [01:31] <xales> well
#555 [01:31] <gothroach> It cannot sustain anywhere near 5gbps.
#556 [01:32] <xales> in any case, a computer that old won't support 3.0
#557 [01:32] <ifish> If I recall correctly anyway
#558 [01:32] <gothroach> SATA2 is faster than USB3 sustained.
#559 [01:32] <xales> nor will the drive itself be very likely to actually support that speed
#560 [01:32] <Chrono> !check 72.241.193.187
#561 [01:32] <cheshire> still, its not like we need a really high speed for reading the small chunks
#562 [01:33] <gothroach> SSDs must shine at chunk loading.
#563 [01:33] <cheshire> anywho, still going to sleeps now
#564 [01:33] <Chrono> xales: unless i need to restart my comp, nothing
#565 [01:33] <ifish> Good night , make
#566 [01:33] <ifish> mate*
#567 [01:33] * cheshire /poofs
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#568 [01:33] <ifish> My dads laptop has a 256 SSD
#569 [01:33] <xales> Chrono: can you take a screenshot of the port forwarding page that shows the settings, so we can check that it's correct?
#570 [01:34] <Chrono> xales: sure one sec
#571 [01:34] <ifish> Also, sorry if I'm being a noob ;;>__>
#572 [01:35] <Chrono> xales: who do i... get it up here? new to irc :p
#573 [01:35] <xales> use imgur or something like that
#574 [01:35] <gothroach> Screenshot, saveit, upload to imgur.com
#575 [01:35] <gothroach> *save it
#576 [01:36] <Chrono> xales, gothroach: how bout flickr?
#577 [01:37] <xales> that will work I suppose, though imgur is probably easier
#578 [01:37] <xales> easier to upload to
#579 [01:37] <Chrono> ill just use it then
#580 [01:37] <ifish> Anyway guys. I'm tired. I'm gonna go read the wiki and fall asleep
#581 [01:37] <ifish> T'was a fun and informative night
#582 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#583 [01:38] <ifish> Thanks for all the help Kealper and GreyVulpine.
#584 [01:38] <ifish> I'll be back tomorrow hope. :P
#585 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
#586 [01:38] <xales> inb4 "rawr"
#587 [01:39] <Chrono> xales: interesting. http://imgur.com/3s5Vb
#588 [01:39] <Chrono> never used that site before
#589 [01:39] <xales> oh dear
#590 [01:39] <xales> this is starting to smell like something problematic =/
#591 [01:40] <Chrono> xales: lol what did i do!
#592 [01:40] <xales> Chrono: nothing you did, something your ISP likely did
#593 [01:40] <Chrono> xales: it used to work
#594 [01:40] <xales> oh, it did?
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#597 [01:40] <xales> double check your IP is still 192.168.1.4
#598 [01:40] <Chrono> xales: but when... 1.02 came out? it think that update
#599 [01:42] <Chrono> how do it do that? sorry, networking of any kind is my worse suit. i dont even remember...
#600 [01:42] <Chrono> how i got that ip
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#602 [01:42] <xales> press Win+R (win = windows key, between control and alt) and type "cmd" in the box. click run. in that box, type "ipconfig"
#603 [01:42] <xales> your IP is the "IPv4 address"
#604 [01:43] <Chrono> xales: lol your awesome
#605 [01:43] <Chrono> looks like its '2' now
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#607 [01:44] <Chrono> !check 72.241.193.187
#608 [01:44] <Chrono> :D
#609 [01:45] <Chrono> man, i never once thought about that
#610 [01:47] <Chrono> xales: well, thank you very much for the help. I can't believe it was something that simple that I never....
#611 [01:47] <Chrono> thought about
#612 [01:48] <xales> it's ok, glad you got it working :)
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#617 [02:03] <a11an85> I am in need of help
#618 [02:03] <a11an85> I can play minecraft on the website, but no on my desktop
#619 [02:03] <a11an85> not*
#620 [02:04] <a11an85> can anyone help?
#621 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Why not on your desktop?
#622 [02:04] <a11an85> I dont know, login fails.
#623 [02:05] <a11an85> But, I can login on website, no problem.
#624 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the latest launcher?
#625 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Redownload minecraft from the website
#626 [02:05] <a11an85> Ya, I just tried it, its nice looking too
#627 [02:05] <a11an85> login fails
#628 [02:05] <xales> what exactly does it say?
#629 [02:05] <xales> "Login failed"?
#630 [02:06] <a11an85> I was actually having issues with it before the update, atleast now I can actually connect to IP's through the website. But now with the new laucnher, I cant even login
#631 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmmm.
#632 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#633 [02:07] <a11an85> windows 7
#634 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Can you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#635 [02:07] <a11an85> Yes, it says Login Failed."
#636 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ping minecraft.net
#637 [02:07] <a11an85> ok, done
#638 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me what the first line of that says?
#639 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Pinging minecraft.net... (xx.xx.xx.xx)...
#640 [02:08] <a11an85> my IP?
#641 [02:08] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: why not use nslookup? (:
#642 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> No, it should give you what your computer thinks minecraft.net's ip is
#643 [02:08] <a11an85> ok
#644 [02:09] <a11an85> 50.16.203.217) with 32 bytes of data:
#645 [02:09] <a11an85> Request timed out.
#646 [02:09] <dopeghoti> FWIW, that's an EC2 address.
#647 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that seems like the right IP
#648 [02:09] <xales> a11an85: do the same thing, but try ping login.minecraft.net
#649 [02:10] <a11an85> Bad parameter minecraft.net
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#651 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> it's: ping login.minecraft.net
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#654 [02:11] <a11an85> 50.17.234.159
#655 [02:12] <xales> are you sure you are using the same username and password as you are on the website?
#656 [02:12] <a11an85> I will double check for the sake of it, but im not that silly.
#657 [02:13] <a11an85> ok wtf, its working
#658 [02:13] <a11an85> and i didnt even retype the password
#659 [02:13] <a11an85> wtf
#660 [02:13] <a11an85> let me restart it
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#662 [02:14] <a11an85> Ya, now its not working
#663 [02:14] <a11an85> but it just was.
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#665 [02:14] <a11an85> One second
#666 [02:14] <xales> try clearing out the username and password fields
#667 [02:14] <xales> and retyping it
#668 [02:15] <a11an85> ya, I'm going to right now, but before I went to do that, i hit the login button, and it actually logged me in
#669 [02:15] <a11an85> so, I closed the launcher, and restarted it, of course its not working now
#670 [02:15] <a11an85> And now, after telling you the situation, it is now working again
#671 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#672 [02:16] <a11an85> it seems as though it needs to be open for a bit, before I try logging in.
#673 [02:16] <xales> possibly an overeager firewall or antivirus...
#674 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Just to be on the safe side, hit the options button, then Force game update
#675 [02:16] <a11an85> k
#676 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Just make sure you have fresh minecraft files
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#678 [02:17] * GreyVulpine wonders if that kills the lastlogin file as well
#678 [02:17] <xales> GreyVulpine: you have to actually log in to make it force update, and it doesn't
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#680 [02:17] <fogWraith> Unf
#681 [02:18] <dopeghoti> Unf?
#682 [02:18] <a11an85> ya, I had to close minecraft to get the update, I need to wait a moment
#683 [02:19] <a11an85> just to make sure im on the right version of minecraft, its 1.3_01 right?
#684 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#685 [02:19] <a11an85> ok great.
#686 [02:20] <a11an85> hmm
#687 [02:20] <a11an85> ok now I cannot connect to servers.
#688 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> What server are you connecting to?
#689 [02:21] <a11an85> treepunch.us - roxbot.com - ausmc.net
#690 [02:21] <dopeghoti> That's.. three answers.
#691 [02:22] <a11an85> I can connect to all of three of those servers through the webbased minecraft
#692 [02:22] <a11an85> but not from the launcher, which was my problem before the update.
#693 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> First two don't work for me
#694 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Last one does
#695 [02:22] <dopeghoti> ??> a11an85 win/profile
#696 [02:22] <VoxelHead> a11an85: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#697 [02:22] <VoxelHead> a11an85: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#698 [02:23] <a11an85> ok
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#700 [02:25] <JaredkZ> hiya
#701 [02:25] <dopeghoti> 'lo
#702 [02:25] <a11an85> by selecting the log out button located in the top right corner of the minecraft.net website, it has brought me to a loading stalemate.
#703 [02:25] <a11an85> and has been going for about a minute and a half
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#705 [02:26] <a11an85> this was the solution the last time I was trying to get help (create new profile) and the website was down at the time.
#706 [02:26] <JaredkZ> so um, my massive 3 story house just caught fire...
#707 [02:26] <BarryCarlyon> JaredkZ: lol
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#709 [02:27] <JaredkZ> ya.. it's a LOT of wood
#710 [02:27] <BarryCarlyon> well its not anymore.....
#711 [02:27] <a11an85> i'll play on the website for now, i'll try to create a profile another time, thanks for the help guys
#712 [02:27] <JaredkZ> ya... 2 story and a loft and a basement to be exact, but still
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#714 [02:28] <dopeghoti> I once accidentally set fire to my redstone lab's frame by experimenting with using magma as an offensive weapon.
#715 [02:28] <BarryCarlyon> hehe
#716 [02:28] <dopeghoti> Fortunately, I also had many buckets handy
#717 [02:28] <BarryCarlyon> We have a forest that used to set it self on fire.
#718 [02:28] <dopeghoti> and it was only wood-framed; most of the structure was glass and stone
#719 [02:29] <BarryCarlyon> Since we had some infinite fire torches and the leaves would grow to the point to touch it and WOOSH!
#720 [02:29] <JaredkZ> mine's solid wood with heaps of bookshelves and everything
#721 [02:29] <dopeghoti> JaredkZ: next wood house you build should have 3m thick walls, filled with water.
#722 [02:30] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#723 [02:30] <JaredkZ> dopeghoti: I never thought of that...
#724 [02:30] <JaredkZ> that's a good idea actually lol
#725 [02:30] <dopeghoti> sort of the MC version of a run-flat tyre
#726 [02:31] <dopeghoti> (doing the same with magma is also a good way to dissuade people from mining around your iron-doored fortress entrance (:
#727 [02:31] <dopeghoti> )
#728 [02:31] <JaredkZ> LOL
#729 [02:31] <JaredkZ> nice
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#731 [02:33] <dopeghoti> Oh, nice, Overviewer merged the new savefile support into master.
#732 [02:33] * dopeghoti uncomments the cron job.
#732 [02:33] <BarryCarlyon> dopeghoti: hurrah!
#733 [02:33] <BarryCarlyon> Me too on the cronjib.
#734 [02:34] <BarryCarlyon> Bonus to using lava means you dont get water noises from your walls.
#735 [02:34] <dopeghoti> (do a git pull first of course)
#736 [02:34] <BarryCarlyon> Std.
#737 [02:34] <BarryCarlyon> What about c10t?
#738 [02:34] <dopeghoti> I use mcmap
#739 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, is there a way to get more lava source blocks without /give ?
#740 [02:34] <dopeghoti> sadly, no
#741 [02:34] <dopeghoti> but there's plenty to be had
#742 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#743 [02:34] <BarryCarlyon> I only use c10t for hte top down view.
#744 [02:35] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#745 [02:35] <dopeghoti> no c10t updates since 28 Jan
#746 [02:35] <BarryCarlyon> Git pull and rebuild the extension.
#747 [02:35] <dopeghoti> yay, mcmap updated too
#748 [02:35] <BarryCarlyon> sadface to c10t
#749 [02:36] <BarryCarlyon> Does mcmap do a top down?
#750 [02:36] * dopeghoti checks mcmap --help
#750 [02:36] <dopeghoti> looks like just isometric
#751 [02:37] <BarryCarlyon> so you use mcmap and minecraft overview?
#752 [02:37] <dopeghoti> yep
#753 [02:37] <BarryCarlyon> Is that becuase overview does it from a different angle?
#754 [02:38] <dopeghoti> it's because I keep daily snapshots of mcmap, but keep the google map current (:
#755 [02:38] <BarryCarlyon> Hmmm whats the gihub link for mcmap?
#756 [02:38] <dopeghoti> good lord. loafyland-day.png: PNG image, 13578 x 7194, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced
#757 [02:38] <dopeghoti> that's a large image.
#758 [02:38] <BarryCarlyon> *whistles*
#759 [02:39] <dopeghoti> and that's after trimming the world a few weeks ago
#760 [02:39] <dopeghoti> https://github.com/Zahl/mcmap
#761 [02:40] <BarryCarlyon> ty
#762 [02:40] <dopeghoti> cheers
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#764 [02:41] <Macro> I agree!
#765 [02:42] <BarryCarlyon> ^5 Macro
#766 [02:42] <Macro> ^5 BarryCarlyon
#767 [02:42] <dopeghoti> ^5 is too mathematical-looking. You should use o/ and \o
#768 [02:42] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#769 [02:43] * dopeghoti had a moment of "Why are people suddenly raising something indeterminate to the fifth power? Ohhh."
#769 [02:44] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#770 [02:45] <BarryCarlyon> My overviewer is not running looks like it has junked the whole cache file tho
#771 [02:45] <Macro> I agree
#772 [02:45] <BarryCarlyon> Macro: is a irssi session on the same box :-D
#773 [02:45] <BarryCarlyon> s/not/now
#774 [02:45] <Elvang> So I've been getting the End of Stream error on every server I join, within a few moments of joining
#775 [02:46] <nevercast> dopeghoti, Minecraft keeps falling out of sync ( Behind by 10 seconds )
#776 [02:46] <Elvang> However, I just noticed that if immediately after joining I open my inventory and minimize minecraft for a few moments, I can play normally
#777 [02:46] <nevercast> dopeghoti, It seems to be only me
#778 [02:46] <nevercast> dopeghoti, Is it a network or hardware problem ?
#779 [02:46] <Elvang> Any idea why?
#780 [02:46] <nevercast> ( PC hardware )
#781 [02:46] <dopeghoti> nevercast: try other servers?
#782 [02:46] <nevercast> dopeghoti, I like this server
#783 [02:46] <nevercast> dopeghoti, I own it :P
#784 [02:47] <nevercast> dopeghoti, no one else gets any lag on my server
#785 [02:47] <nevercast> dopeghoti, I normally don't. Except today
#786 [02:47] <dopeghoti> nevercast: for experimental, diagnostic purposes.
#787 [02:47] <nevercast> Is kealper a good server to try?
#788 [02:47] * dopeghoti will have to tag xales in though, because I'm quite tired.
#788 [02:48] <xales> Elvang: no idea =/
#789 [02:49] <Elvang> Previously I've seen it recommended that you change the receive values for your connection, but I couldn't because my wifi card didn't have those values
#790 [02:50] * xales is going to go to bed
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#791 [02:55] <Elvang> Actually, it appears I'll get end of stream if I don't open my inventory every so often
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#793 [02:57] <Coll> I need a gate that will have 2 inputs 1 output
#794 [02:57] <Coll> input !
#795 [02:57] <Coll> A
#796 [02:57] <Coll> I mean
#797 [02:57] <Coll> is like a power button that turns it on
#798 [02:57] <Coll> and input B will be sent to the output if input A is on
#799 [02:57] <Coll> if that makes sense
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#801 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> Then an RS latch with an AND gate
#802 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> The input a will trip the RS latch to switch to a state
#803 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> That output will combine with an AND gate to your final output
#804 [03:00] <Coll> doesnt a RS latch
#805 [03:00] <Coll> not change
#806 [03:00] <Coll> like if you power one end
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#808 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Right, unless it receives a reset signal
#809 [03:00] <Coll> is switches
#810 [03:00] <Coll> I dont want that
#811 [03:00] <Coll> space is cramped already as it is
#812 [03:00] * GreyVulpine snerks
#812 [03:01] <Coll> I thought I saw a gate that would accomplish this
#813 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Then just an AND gate
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#815 [03:01] <Coll> wow
#816 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> It'll pass an ON state if both inputs are on
#817 [03:01] <Coll> That makes sense
#818 [03:01] <Coll> and here I am trying to over complicate it
#819 [03:01] <Coll> -_-
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#824 [03:03] <lochierules> hello
#825 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#826 [03:03] <lochierules> bye
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#828 [03:05] <Rait> Off-topic question, anyone know much about connecting to an external display?
#829 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#830 [03:06] <Rait> Well, when i connect it, and all that, it works, but like, it's moved to the left a whole 5-6 inches
#831 [03:06] <Rait> so it's cutting off the left side of my screen
#832 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#833 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you spanning a display, and not wanting to?
#834 [03:07] <Rait> I have it connect to my tv, and this only happens on 1280x720
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#836 [03:07] <Rait> I have no clue, xD i just got the tv today.
#837 [03:08] <JaredkZ> is there any way other than water and hitting all the blocks to put out a house on fire? mods or otherwise
#838 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> JaredkZ - Nope
#839 [03:08] <JaredkZ> now that sucks lol
#840 [03:08] <JaredkZ> oh well
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#842 [03:08] <JaredkZ> imma build a stone house now x.x
#843 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Rait - Um, spanning is when you use two monitors, and have it as one screen, either horizontally or vertically.
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#845 [03:09] <JaredkZ> that works on minecraft?!
#846 [03:09] * JaredkZ goes off to try
#846 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#847 [03:09] <Rait> Oh, i'm only using the tv, the computers screen is off when it's connected.
#848 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Spanning and playing minecraft on macs is a different story, small bug with it
#849 [03:10] <Rait> Using vista.
#850 [03:10] <nevercast> Vista is easy
#851 [03:10] <BarryCarlyon> GreyVulpine: I might try it when I get to work (spanning on mac)
#852 [03:10] <Rait> I hate it. u_u
#853 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> BarryCarlyon - There's a little bug with spanning monitor... or even just playing minecraft on the second display on macs
#854 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> It crashes hard
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#856 [03:11] <BarryCarlyon> I had it fin on mac second screen the other day (after the latest update)
#857 [03:11] <BarryCarlyon> fine*
#858 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Okay, before 1.3, there were quite a few people coming in here with problems
#859 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if that was fixed yet
#860 [03:12] <JaredkZ> spanning... omg... wow
#861 [03:12] <BarryCarlyon> I've never had a problem.
#862 [03:12] <JaredkZ> dual 24" is awesome
#863 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> BarryCarlyon - And you had the minecraft client on the 2nd monitor?
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#865 [03:14] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, idk.. but my computer falls behind very quickly on my server.
#866 [03:14] <BarryCarlyon> Yip
#867 [03:14] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, Everyone else is fine.. it's shit
#868 [03:15] <BarryCarlyon> The day the update came out with the new save file.
#869 [03:15] <BarryCarlyon> I ran the update on my linux box, then loaded up minecraft on monitor two.
#870 [03:15] <BarryCarlyon> All good.
#871 [03:15] <BarryCarlyon> Ill retest at work in 45mins
#872 [03:16] <Rait> Is there a way to move the screen vertically on a laptop?
#873 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Here's the getsatisfaction report on that
#874 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crash_on_focus_change_macosx_secondary_screen
#875 [03:16] <JaredkZ> when I get triple 24"... oh wow.. godly..
#876 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Helped me diagnose several people's problems when they passed through here
#877 [03:18] <BarryCarlyon> Ah I did have the chat hang/inv hang but after letting mc run for a bit after first run, it started running fine. On second screen.
#878 [03:20] <BarryCarlyon> right work time back ina a bit
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#886 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> Whoa, TNT can hurt you even through walls?
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#889 [04:06] <theunleet> yep
#890 [04:07] <theunleet> currently watching someone make a lava moat
#891 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> Wish I knew that beforehand, would've made my TNT testing chamber a bit bigger
#892 [04:08] <theunleet> Splash damage
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#894 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Well, I have the TNT dampened by water.. didn't expect the explosion to reach through walls as well
#895 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Even though it destroyed no blocks
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#898 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, interesting, a circuit of TNT in series will destroy the first TNT block, but not the second..
#899 [04:13] * GreyVulpine ponders.
#899 [04:13] <theunleet> thats weird
#900 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> Not wierd, the signal trips the first TNT block, destroying the redstone passing over it
#901 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> So the signal never reaches the second TNT block
#902 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> That's kinda cool, and I could possibly make use of that..
#903 [04:15] <aetherian> I need to go to bed, as it is late
#904 [04:15] <theunleet> repeater?
#905 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> ?
#906 [04:15] <aetherian> night, guys.
#907 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#908 [04:15] <aetherian> eh?
#909 [04:15] <aetherian> no.
#910 [04:15] <theunleet> redstone repeaters
#911 [04:15] <aetherian> single later, not plural.
#912 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> What about them?
#913 [04:16] <theunleet> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Repeater
#914 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> I'm aware of what they are...
#915 [04:16] <theunleet> ah
#916 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Why'd you bring them up?
#917 [04:16] <theunleet> might make use of it
#918 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> I was thinking something along the lines of a self-destructable combination lock
#919 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> Get the combo wrong, and the circuit destroys itself, rendering it useless
#920 [04:17] <theunleet> useful
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#929 [04:41] <CoLoN> if i wanted someone else to host my server what files do i need to give them?
#930 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> Everything in your server folder
#931 [04:42] <CoLoN> ok so best just to .rar it to em?
#932 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> Sure
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#935 [04:58] <Elite_N00B> hello
#936 [04:58] <Elite_N00B> Just wondering anyone would join my server to test
#937 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#938 [04:59] <Elite_N00B> Thank you! Details are as followed-
#939 [04:59] <Elite_N00B> 2 sec
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#941 [05:02] <Elite_N00B> sorry internet gone crazy
#942 [05:02] <Elite_N00B> 2 more seconds
#943 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> No rush, take your time
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#945 [05:05] <Elite_N00B> There is steam or smock coming oustside computer vent????
#946 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not a good sign
#947 [05:06] <ItsCriminal> o.O oh damn
#948 [05:06] <AG_Scott> I'm waiting on my PSU to blow up
#949 [05:06] <AG_Scott> my bf keeps telling me it's gonna happen but i dont' believe him :(
#950 [05:06] <Elite_N00B> turned it off
#951 [05:06] <theunleet> did you accidently place a lava block in your computer?
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#953 [05:06] <Elite_N00B> seems fan not moving
#954 [05:07] <theunleet> fan jammed by dust?
#955 [05:07] <Elite_N00B> umm.. there is a lot of dust
#956 [05:07] <Elite_N00B> if i unplug can i remove with screwdriver dust
#957 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#958 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Either that, or an air duster
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#960 [05:09] <theunleet> compressed air
#961 [05:10] <theunleet> ./ can of air
#962 [05:10] <AG_Scott> I use those little cleaner things people put in their ears with alcohol.
#963 [05:10] <Elite_N00B> done ill use lappy for time been any ways herre is details---
#964 [05:10] <Elite_N00B> Server= :25565 On Logmein= minecraftharrison Password= minecraft
#965 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Oh bleh, hamachi?
#966 [05:11] <Elite_N00B> huh?
#967 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Are you using LogMeIn's Hamachi VPN program?
#968 [05:12] <Elite_N00B> yes
#969 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Gah, I don't have that installed on here..
#970 [05:12] <Elite_N00B> y
#971 [05:12] <Elite_N00B> isn't needed
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#973 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes.. it is
#974 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Everybody that wants to join your server, needs to have hamachi as well
#975 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> That's kinda how Hamachi VPN works
#976 [05:13] <Elite_N00B> anyone have it?
#977 [05:13] <Elite_N00B> k sorry been using liux for quite some time windows is new to me
#978 [05:13] <Elite_N00B> (linux)
#979 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you just port forward through your router??
#980 [05:14] <Elite_N00B> use 3g card...
#981 [05:14] <Elite_N00B> no port forwarding
#982 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Ooof.. and you want to run a minecraft server off that connection?
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#984 [05:15] <Justin> is minecraft currently down?
#985 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#986 [05:16] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#987 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#988 [05:16] <Ape> It's down also for me
#989 [05:16] <Justin> not the site, the launcher
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#991 [05:16] <Justin> it isn't allowing me to login
#992 [05:16] <Elite_N00B> so thats y you need logme in
#993 [05:16] <Justin> ?
#994 [05:16] <Justin> remotely connecting to the game isn't my preferences
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#996 [05:17] <Elite_N00B> cmon just want to see if it works
#997 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't have hamachi on this machine. My other one which does, is out of commission
#998 [05:19] <Elite_N00B> ok btw i heard there is mod for talking over mic
#999 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> I have heard that as well, but last I heard, it required modded servers to have that as well...
#1000 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> And we don't really provide support for either here.
#1001 [05:20] <Elite_N00B> oh
#1002 [05:21] <Elite_N00B> anyway last question without online what do you do in minecraft
#1003 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> You can play single player, if you have the files
#1004 [05:22] <Elite_N00B> yea but what do you do like piont of game
#1005 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> What is the point of legos?
#1006 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> What's the point of a sandbox game?
#1007 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> It's all in whatever you put into it, and what you want out of it
#1008 [05:24] <Elite_N00B> so you build
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#1010 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> You can build, discover, make your own creations. It can serve as a cooperative building game, it can serve as a medium for cooperative play, socialize with your friends as you share a common interest
#1011 [05:25] <Elite_N00B> cool
#1012 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> You can build whatever comes to your imagination, both with blocks, and with circuitry
#1013 [05:26] <JaredkZ> build a colloseum
#1014 [05:26] <Elite_N00B> i am learning to program ill make it my project to port this to my phone android
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#1016 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Android and iphone ports are already planned by mojang
#1017 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> "Later this year" is what they've told us
#1018 [05:27] <gmarsau> Hi, I'm having trouble logging in. Minecraft just says "Can't connect to minecraft.net". Visiting "http://minecraft.net" works just fine in a browser. Going to "https://minecraft.net" gives "Error 102 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED): Unknown error." Any suggestions?
#1019 [05:27] <Elite_N00B> k considering its in java i can port it within 2 days
#1020 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> gmarsau - Minecraft appears down right now
#1021 [05:27] <Elite_N00B> minecarft down
#1022 [05:27] <gmarsau> ok
#1023 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Elite_N00B - Also take into account, minecraft also uses the lwjgl library, utilizing OpenGL as well
#1024 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Not every platform has graphics that can handle OpenGL
#1025 [05:29] <Elite_N00B> hummm....
#1026 [05:34] <Elite_N00B> ahh dawn getting user account not premium
#1027 [05:34] <Elite_N00B> how long does it take to register
#1028 [05:34] <Elite_N00B> i mean its been 2 days
#1029 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, usually the majority of users get it within 4-5 hours, if not a day or two
#1030 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> If it's been days, and you have received confirmation of payment through whatever service you used, you might want to try sending an email to payment@mojang.com
#1031 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> With that confirmation number, and details concerning your account
#1032 [05:37] <Elite_N00B> will my servers work then and i wont have to use that stupid log me in
#1033 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> That, no. You'll still have to figure out port forwarding.
#1034 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> And I don't recommend hosting a minecraft server on that connection anyways.
#1035 [05:38] <Elite_N00B> can i go online
#1036 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1037 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Once you email mojang, and get this straightened out.
#1038 [05:40] <Elite_N00B> Thank you for all your help really thanks a lot!!
#1039 [05:41] <Elite_N00B> Never seen a gaming community so helpful!
#1040 [05:43] <Elite_N00B> Hey i can port this to ps3 no joke!
#1041 [05:45] <Elite_N00B> tell me your server ill try join
#1042 [05:47] <Elite_N00B> hell0
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#1046 [05:55] <BigMoe> Quick question. The portals on the freebuild servers... Is that a mod they are running? Or how do you make them?
#1047 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> It's a mod
#1048 [05:55] <fogWraith> Ninjagrey
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#1050 [05:56] <mannflooring> in canada, can't connect to minecraft.net through app, is the server still having issues? yes/no
#1051 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1052 [05:56] <BigMoe> You wouldn't happen to know the name of it, would ya?
#1053 [05:56] <mannflooring> thank you!
#1054 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> BigMoe - By "Freebuild", you mean a beta server?
#1055 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> Or a classic creative one?
#1056 [05:57] <fogWraith> BigMoe, there's plenty... MultiVerse being a popular pick
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#1058 [05:58] <BigMoe> I guess it would be a creative. The ones on the site. And thanks fog :)
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#1060 [06:01] <Elite_N00B> hey guys when setting up a server in server.properties what ip do i use
#1061 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> Leave it blank
#1062 [06:01] <Elite_N00B> but it gives me just a port to join then
#1063 [06:01] <Elite_N00B> Starting Minecraft server on *:25565
#1064 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> If you're running the server on the same computer as the client you're using, use 127.0.0.1 to join
#1065 [06:02] <Elite_N00B> my friend wants to join
#1066 [06:03] <mannflooring> did you find your ip and give it to your friend?
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#1068 [06:04] <Elite_N00B> i dont have ip just port Starting Minecraft server on *:25565
#1069 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Elite_N00B is running a server off his 3g connection
#1070 [06:05] <mannflooring> oh boy
#1071 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding isn't an option. If you have hamachi, then your friend needs hamachi installed as well
#1072 [06:05] <fogWraith> Elite_N00B, shut it down ;_;
#1073 [06:06] <Elite_N00B> plugged into rounter via cable now what
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#1075 [06:06] <Elite_N00B> port forward now
#1076 [06:07] <dc> Hi, I just bought the game. How can I download the whole game so I can play offline?
#1077 [06:07] <Elite_N00B> yes
#1078 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> dc - Just wait, it might take some time for the payment to process
#1079 [06:08] <Elite_N00B> do i need this to port forward http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WNR2000v2/fpadvert.htm
#1080 [06:08] <dc> Ah, okay then. Thanks!
#1081 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> dc - are you able to log into the client?
#1082 [06:08] <dc> No.
#1083 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Still saying you're not premium?
#1084 [06:09] <dc> It simply says unable to connect to server
#1085 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Aah, the auth server's down right now.
#1086 [06:09] <dc> But I have been directed on the site to download minecraft; except its just the launcher
#1087 [06:09] <dc> Not the full game download
#1088 [06:09] <dc> Oh I see.
#1089 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Can you log into the website? When you're logged in, can you still see the 25% off bubble on minecraft in the upper left?
#1090 [06:10] <dc> It is gone.
#1091 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then your account is credited as premium, just gotta wait for the Mojang team to fix their auth server
#1092 [06:11] <dc> Great! So what about a full game download?
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#1094 [06:11] <dc> Is that offered through the launcher?
#1095 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes, unfortunately, it needs to auth you against the server before it'll let you download the rest of the game files
#1096 [06:12] <dc> Sounds great. Keep up the great work. Have a nice day and thanks for another reason to not do work.
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#1098 [06:13] <Elite_N00B> hey so how do i port forward?
#1099 [06:13] <Elite_N00B> this has got me stumped
#1100 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> Start off with, What OS are you on Elite_N00B?
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#1102 [06:14] <enys> g'day
#1103 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1104 [06:15] <enys> I need to get a new NIC, what chipset would be good for MC server?
#1105 [06:15] <enys> besides atheros lol
#1106 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> I would recommend anything but atheros.
#1107 [06:15] <enys> yeah
#1108 [06:15] <enys> xales told me
#1109 [06:15] <enys> so anything goes?
#1110 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Broadcom also has some trouble as well.. but not as severe as atheros
#1111 [06:16] <enys> :S alright thanks
#1112 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Realtek and nvidia are the two major contenders out there
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#1114 [06:20] <Elite_N00B> windows 7 64 bit
#1115 [06:20] <enys> and a custom wrapper would'nt fix the socket issue?
#1116 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> enys - Unfortunately not
#1117 [06:21] <enys> alright thanks for clarifying
#1118 [06:21] <enys> I'll just give up and buy a new one :p
#1119 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Elite_N00B - Could you go to your start menu, type in the search bar: cmd
#1120 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> at the black command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#1121 [06:21] <Elite_N00B> done
#1122 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> Tell me the ipv4 address under the ethernet heading
#1123 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> as well as the default gateway
#1124 [06:22] <Elite_N00B> 192.168.1.220
#1125 [06:23] <Elite_N00B> ipv4
#1126 [06:23] <Corporal_Dirge> What happened to the servers? I can't run mine anymore.
#1127 [06:23] <Elite_N00B> temporly down
#1128 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Auth servers are down apparently
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#1130 [06:23] <Corporal_Dirge> A friend couldn't log in because it said it was out of date, so I downloaded a new one and now both don't start.
#1131 [06:23] <Elite_N00B> default gateway is 192.168.1.1
#1132 [06:24] <Corporal_Dirge> this ia a rather authoritarian game.
#1133 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Elite_N00B - Alright, you can close that now. Fire up a browser, go to http://192.168.1.1
#1134 [06:24] <Elite_N00B> in my rounter settings now
#1135 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me an idea of what brand or model of router this is?
#1136 [06:26] <enys> you gonna port forward hm? :p
#1137 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Going to try
#1138 [06:26] <enys> haha nice
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#1140 [06:26] <N00b> sorry crashed
#1141 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> I've been here since Sept-ish, the amount of people asking for port forwarding instructions... I can't count anymore
#1142 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> N00b - It's alright
#1143 [06:27] <N00b> thank you
#1144 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me an idea of what brand or model of router this is?
#1145 [06:27] <N00b> netgear wnr 2000v2
#1146 [06:27] <enys> why dont oyu just redirect people to portforward dot com? :p
#1147 [06:27] <N00b> give me 2 secs
#1148 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> I could, but the majority of people get stuck at the stupid program that it pushes for people to buy
#1149 [06:28] <enys> ooh yeah taht ad sux
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#1151 [06:28] <enys> I just tell people to dl teamviewer and do it myself :p
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#1153 [06:28] <N00b> on rounter settings with port forwarding tab open
#1154 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I save Teamviewer as a last resort
#1155 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Okay, what you're going to port forward is 25565-TCP to 192.168.1.220
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#1157 [06:30] <N00b> k 2 min
#1158 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> Many people aren't comfortable with a random person on the internet having remote access to their computer
#1159 [06:30] <N00b> where is tcp i c ftp
#1160 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> It usually takes the person helping some time for them to build the trust that the time they spent walking them over IRC... before you can ask for remote access
#1161 [06:31] <Orpheus> anyone else having problems connecting via the desktop copy? I keep getting "can't connect to minecraft.net" messages when I try to login
#1162 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> Orpheus - Auth server is down right now
#1163 [06:31] <Orpheus> ah cheers :)
#1164 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> N00b - At the port forwarding page, do you see "Add new rule"
#1165 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> You're going to add a "Custom Rule"
#1166 [06:32] <N00b> Port Forwarding / Port Triggering Please select the service type Port Forwarding Port Triggering Service Name Server IP Address . . . # Server Name Start Port End Port Server IP Address
#1167 [06:32] <N00b> i got page
#1168 [06:32] <N00b> with add service tcp
#1169 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Um.
#1170 [06:33] <N00b> Service Name Protocol Starting Port (1~65534) Ending Port (1~65534) Server IP Address
#1171 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Ah. okay
#1172 [06:34] <Orpheus> what router you got? cos http://portforward.com/ have minecraft port forwarding help and it's easy to follow :)
#1173 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Service name - Minecraft server
#1174 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Starting and ending port is 25565
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#1176 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Server IP address is 192.168.1.220
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#1178 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Protocol is TCP
#1179 [06:34] <enys> if all else fails google how to put your machine in a DMZ :p
#1180 [06:34] <h1e> ? overload
#1181 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, bad!
#1182 [06:34] <Mikau> By the way, GreyVulpine.
#1183 [06:34] <Mikau> I fixed that sound problem the other day.
#1184 [06:34] <enys> haha
#1185 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> No DMZing unless you're totally out of options
#1186 [06:34] * GreyVulpine baps enys
#1186 [06:35] * Mikau is DMZ
#1186 [06:35] <enys> lol
#1187 [06:35] <Mikau> I set myself as DMZ because ports irritate me.
#1188 [06:35] <h1e> ?? overload
#1189 [06:35] <N00b> done!
#1190 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Great. Do you know if windows firewall is up?
#1191 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Also, do you have any other security software on that machine?
#1192 [06:36] <N00b> yes it is and yes i do
#1193 [06:36] <Mikau> I know a large portion of you watched that Mojang Documentary thing
#1194 [06:36] <h1e> auth server is down anyway
#1195 [06:36] <N00b> made exception in vipre
#1196 [06:36] <Mikau> is it just me, or is Jakob the only normal looking guy at Mojang
#1197 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> You're going to need to let in 25565 to your computer via those programs n00b
#1198 [06:37] <enys> hmm speaking of program, does avg conflict with MC ?
#1199 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> It did just a few days ago, false positive on lwjgl.dll
#1200 [06:38] <N00b> how do i allow a port on windows firewall
#1201 [06:38] <Orpheus> Avg does nothing but throw false positives in my experience.
#1202 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Same here Orpheus
#1203 [06:38] <N00b> get vipre best hands down
#1204 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> N00b - Head to your windows firewall setup page (start -> firewall.cpl)
#1205 [06:38] <Orpheus> nah, common sense hands down ;)
#1206 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Then, "Advanced options" on the left side
#1207 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> You're going to go to "Inbound rules" on the left side, then "New Rule" on the right side
#1208 [06:39] <N00b> advance settings?
#1209 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that
#1210 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Man, I have set up too many people's Win7 firewall... I don't run Win7 myself.
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#1212 [06:40] <N00b> done
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#1214 [06:40] <N00b> now can some one join
#1215 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Just follow the wizard and add Port 25565 to your computer
#1216 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Sure, IP?
#1217 [06:41] <N00b> done already
#1218 [06:41] <N00b> ip is
#1219 [06:41] <Orpheus> anyways cheers grey for the info on the auth serv being down ;)
#1220 [06:41] <Orpheus> ciao
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#1222 [06:41] <N00b> how do i connect first
#1223 [06:42] <enys> what is the auth server?
#1224 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> The auth server is still down, so you might not be able to log in
#1225 [06:42] <enys> what ip is it ?
#1226 [06:43] <fogWraith> Auth server works here O_o
#1227 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> login.minecraft.net
#1228 [06:43] <enys> thx
#1229 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> It's back up fogWraith?
#1230 [06:43] <N00b> how do i connect
#1231 [06:43] <fogWraith> Works fine for me, then again I have both the old and new launcher
#1232 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> n00b - 127.0.0.1
#1233 [06:43] <fogWraith> Using the old one though
#1234 [06:44] <N00b> USER NOT PREMIUM! damn
#1235 [06:45] <N00b> can i try join someone else
#1236 [06:46] <N00b> anyone elses server
#1237 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> If you're not considered premium, your account hasn't been credited yet, and you don't have the files.
#1238 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> You're going to need to take this up with mojang at payment@mojang.com before you can continue
#1239 [06:47] <N00b> mc.13-thirtyseven.com - i can connect
#1240 [06:47] <mib_djivkg> Why would you post a link to a site like that?
#1241 [06:48] <N00b> its a server
#1242 [06:48] <mib_djivkg> It's apparently considered malicious.
#1243 [06:48] <N00b> huh
#1244 [06:48] <mib_djivkg> talking to greyvulpine
#1245 [06:48] <N00b> in what way
#1246 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1247 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> What link is malicious?
#1248 [06:48] <mib_djivkg> this would be the appropriate link http://mojang.com/
#1249 [06:49] <mib_djivkg> Browsers consider your link to be malicious
#1250 [06:49] <N00b> please join this mc.13-thirtyseven.com
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#1252 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> That's.. a new one
#1253 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Haven't heard of that
#1254 [06:49] <bacon> Which..
#1255 [06:49] <N00b> can you join??
#1256 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Browsers thinking my payment @ mojang.com link is some sort of virus... or attempt to..
#1257 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> whatever
#1258 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, it's the same support link for payment issues as seen here: http://www.minecraft.net/support.jsp
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#1260 [06:51] <N00b> join my server mc.13-thirtyseven.com
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#1262 [06:51] <chancecarey> Hey guys
#1263 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Please refrain from advertising your server here. You can use #smp for that
#1264 [06:51] <chancecarey> Im wondering, my paid minecraft is erroring out?
#1265 [06:52] <N00b> i want to see if it works
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#1267 [06:52] <chancecarey> Can't connect to minecraft.net on the login screen.
#1268 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> chancecarey - Yeah, everybody's getting that right now, appears the authentication server is down
#1269 [06:52] <mib_djivkg> MineCraft is currently offline
#1270 [06:52] <mib_djivkg> the servers.
#1271 [06:52] <chancecarey> Fudge!
#1272 [06:52] <chancecarey> :P
#1273 [06:52] <Fum> Me neither. Seems the servers are offline as soon as the staff is away from office.
#1274 [06:52] <mib_djivkg> Well, they should consider hiring a guy to maintain it 24/7
#1275 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Looks like it works n00b
#1276 [06:53] <chancecarey> :p
#1277 [06:53] <Fum> My guess it's just a DDoS grief attack since Notch did announce when they'll be away and for how long.
#1278 [06:53] <N00b> but y cant i join my own servers
#1279 [06:53] <chancecarey> Darn
#1280 [06:53] <chancecarey> Noob
#1281 [06:53] <chancecarey> Click play offline
#1282 [06:53] <mib_djivkg> Because you need authentication
#1283 [06:54] <mib_djivkg> Multiplayer is disabled until the servers are back on.
#1284 [06:54] <N00b> and thats offline
#1285 [06:54] <chancecarey> Although
#1286 [06:54] <chancecarey> You could always go into the settings and change online-mode to false
#1287 [06:54] <chancecarey> Just temporarily
#1288 [06:54] <N00b> k doing that
#1289 [06:55] <mib_djivkg> Does that work?
#1290 [06:55] <mib_djivkg> Seriously?
#1291 [06:55] <Fum> Yup.
#1292 [06:55] <chancecarey> Yes
#1293 [06:55] <mib_djivkg> Holycrap
#1294 [06:55] <chancecarey> Thats what online-mode does
#1295 [06:55] <chancecarey> Although be wary
#1296 [06:55] <chancecarey> Hackers could get in, whilst it is off
#1297 [06:55] <mib_djivkg> I'll be making a backup
#1298 [06:55] <Fum> But you can get hacked because anyone can use any name they want to if that option is false.
#1299 [06:56] <mib_djivkg> It's on my home network
#1300 [06:56] <bacon> You can't get hacked
#1301 [06:56] <chancecarey> Mine runs 16gb dedicated ramdisk on my home network
#1302 [06:56] <chancecarey> :P
#1303 [06:56] <chancecarey> Bacon
#1304 [06:56] <chancecarey> Of course you have
#1305 [06:56] <chancecarey> i'd say the name, but i fear for my puny little nametag to have -banned infront!
#1306 [06:56] <chancecarey> Kidding ;P
#1307 [06:56] <Fum> bacon, someone can log in with your admin username then.
#1308 [06:56] <N00b> love ya it works
#1309 [06:57] <bacon> You may get people using any name on your server, but that doesn't mean you're hacked
#1310 [06:57] <chancecarey> N00b, anything to help :)
#1311 [06:57] <chancecarey> bacon
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#1313 [06:57] <chancecarey> it opens port 235 locally
#1314 [06:57] <Fum> bacon, all right. You can get griefed. Not hacked.
#1315 [06:57] <chancecarey> Which, if a hacker knows what he is doing, could hack
#1316 [06:57] <chancecarey> Mate, there was a time when I did dark things, I should know.
#1317 [06:58] <chancecarey> I'm past that, so no need to kick me ;P
#1318 [06:58] <mib_djivkg> Is it possible to limit where players will be able to build?
#1319 [06:58] <chancecarey> Do you have bukkit?
#1320 [06:58] <mib_djivkg> Never heard about it
#1321 [06:58] <Fum> BTW, different question: Is it at all possible to run a server AND play on it from your own computer? I want to play with my friend but the game is unplayable because of 30 second and up lags.
#1322 [06:58] <chancecarey> Head to bukkit.org
#1323 [06:58] <mib_djivkg> Alright, thanks.
#1324 [06:59] <chancecarey> Fum, thats fine if you have 4gb+ ram.
#1325 [06:59] <Kreiger> Is anybody else having trouble connecting to minecraft.net?
#1326 [06:59] <Kreiger> I can connect fine, but a friend of mine can't.
#1327 [06:59] <chancecarey> Me personally, I run it dedicated with SSD hardware, 16gb ram, and ramdisk.
#1328 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> The auth server is still down, so you might not be able to log in
#1329 [06:59] <chancecarey> Just for myself and friends :p
#1330 [06:59] <Kreiger> ahh
#1331 [06:59] <N00b> last question can someone join just teemp this 191.168.1.220
#1332 [06:59] <Fum> I have 4 GB of RAM, a Core2Duo at 2,2GHz and it still lags :/
#1333 [06:59] <chancecarey> N00b
#1334 [06:59] <chancecarey> thats a local server
#1335 [06:59] <chancecarey> As in, inside your firewall/router.
#1336 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> N00b - Go to whatismyip.com and give people the ip there
#1337 [07:00] <chancecarey> You have to unblock the ports, or set yourself DMZ in your router, and head over to whatismyip.org
#1338 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> We're already gone through port forwarding
#1339 [07:00] <chancecarey> Grey, if his IP is not 192.168.1.1 then-Oh, ok ;P
#1340 [07:00] <chancecarey> And as my first few minutes on this channel go, please do not advertise here.
#1341 [07:00] * GreyVulpine nods
#1341 [07:01] * chancecarey grins like an idiot and walks into a wall.
#1341 [07:01] <N00b> so what is my ip for online
#1342 [07:01] <chancecarey> Hang on
#1343 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Go to whatismyip.org
#1344 [07:01] <Kreiger> 127.0.0.1
#1345 [07:01] <chancecarey> sIt is
#1346 [07:01] <chancecarey> Hmm, I think optus has restrictions
#1347 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> 114-76-43-231
#1348 [07:02] <chancecarey> You do live in australia, do you not?
#1349 [07:02] <N00b> yes
#1350 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> or, 114.76.43.231
#1351 [07:02] <chancecarey> Grey, are you a global admin?
#1352 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> No
#1353 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> This IRCd doesn't have hostmasking
#1354 [07:02] <N00b> whatismyip.org timedout
#1355 [07:02] <chancecarey> Oh ofcourse, I didn't realise his IP was in the first part :P
#1356 [07:03] <Fum> You could always just type /dns N00b and have it autoresolve.
#1357 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> Or you can just nslookup yourself his hostmask
#1358 [07:04] <N00b> what im a n00b
#1359 [07:04] <N00b> that is to tech savy
#1360 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> Ignore us, your ip is 114.76.43.231
#1361 [07:04] <N00b> explain please
#1362 [07:04] <chancecarey> Haha, i'm restricted to playing with name "Player" on my server!
#1363 [07:04] <chancecarey> My ops dont believe me :P
#1364 [07:05] <N00b> can you join
#1365 [07:05] <Fum> Can anyone give me a guesstimate on what are the minimal specs for a minecraft server? Can I run it on a netbook?
#1366 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> No!
#1367 [07:05] <chancecarey> Dont advertise here!
#1368 [07:05] <N00b> and for future how do i find ip
#1369 [07:05] <chancecarey> !rules
#1370 [07:05] <chancecarey> Hmm, bot fail :P
#1371 [07:05] <N00b> but i want to test
#1372 [07:05] <N00b> not advertise
#1373 [07:05] <nevercast> N00b, http://whatismyip.org/
#1374 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> chancecarey - It's alright if they ask for help connecting
#1375 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> It's totally something different if they just spam their server's ip
#1376 [07:06] <N00b> are you player
#1377 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> That, I'll jump on and ban
#1378 [07:06] <chancecarey> I am.
#1379 [07:06] <N00b> hooray i did it thanks all of you
#1380 [07:06] <chancecarey> Seven seconds lag, im judging less than a gig of ram, and whats this?
#1381 [07:06] <chancecarey> No spawn?
#1382 [07:06] <chancecarey> Good bye.
#1383 [07:07] <N00b> 8g
#1384 [07:07] <Kreiger> No Spawn? whats that mean?
#1385 [07:07] <N00b> core i3
#1386 [07:07] <chancecarey> N00b, core i7
#1387 [07:07] <chancecarey> 4 quad
#1388 [07:07] <chancecarey> custom built
#1389 [07:07] <nevercast> Woah boys
#1390 [07:07] <nevercast> no need to all get your cocks out
#1391 [07:07] <N00b> try built a custom laptop its hard
#1392 [07:07] <chancecarey> Kreiger, like on my server (I am NOT giving out the ip!!) I have a city at the start.
#1393 [07:07] <Kreiger> are we having a compter peis contest?
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#1395 [07:07] <chancecarey> Lol kreiger :P
#1396 [07:08] <N00b> so will 114.76.43.231 always be my ip
#1397 [07:08] <nevercast> chancecarey, I have a giant sea bridge from spawn to town :)
#1398 [07:08] <chancecarey> That depends
#1399 [07:08] <Kreiger> Chance, ahh. Well, I've got a central hub near the start, but I didn't buy a city either.
#1400 [07:08] <chancecarey> N00b
#1401 [07:08] <Kreiger> Of course, it's a new server
#1402 [07:08] <chancecarey> Did you request for a static IP address?
#1403 [07:08] <chancecarey> Kreiger, thats fine
#1404 [07:08] <chancecarey> But generally people tend to stay if the front-up is looking nice.
#1405 [07:08] <N00b> what
#1406 [07:08] <chancecarey> N00b, i'll take that as a no.
#1407 [07:09] <chancecarey> Head over to google and search for something like "Set up no-ip domain"
#1408 [07:09] <chancecarey> You will find a guide, if you need questions ask on here.
#1409 [07:09] <chancecarey> Im a texpert :P
#1410 [07:09] <Kreiger> Chance, mind taking a look at my server? I'm still newb to it. I'll toss you IP in private chat
#1411 [07:09] <chancecarey> Kreiger, i will come in as Player so dont kick me ;P
#1412 [07:09] <chancecarey> Send it over.
#1413 [07:10] <N00b> btw forget about how do i find thats all
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#1417 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> N00b - You can always go to whatismyip.com
#1418 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> or go to your router's status page
#1419 [07:11] <nevercast> chancecarey, I'd love for you to test mine. however I already have a mate that's an acting 'Player' until minecraft.net is back up
#1420 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> Either will give you your public IP
#1421 [07:11] <chancecarey> Thats fine Grey
#1422 [07:11] <N00b> cheers
#1423 [07:11] <N00b> static ip is easy do do or not
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#1425 [07:12] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, I like that you did say .org earlier.
#1426 [07:12] <nevercast> Much prefer it :D
#1427 [07:13] * GreyVulpine pffts
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#1430 [07:15] <fogWork> TeamViewer + UAC = fail
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#1432 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> Ewwww UAC
#1433 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> I got a dialog from Teamviewer just the other day, "This copy appears to be used in a corporate environment" or something
#1434 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> With the amount of different IDs I've connected to, just to help with MC
#1435 [07:17] <Fum> UAC would be fine if it didn't pop-up every 5 minutes and quickly train new users that "big pop-up means click 'allow'" and thus making the whole security feature useless.
#1436 [07:17] <fogWork> O_o
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#1438 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> It didn't gimp itself, or anything, just gave me that dialog box and went awaay
#1439 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> away*
#1440 [07:18] <fogWork> Good stuff
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#1444 [07:23] <montezuma> hello
#1445 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1446 [07:23] <montezuma> what is my dns server
#1447 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't know?
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#1449 [07:23] <montezuma> same as my default gateway
#1450 [07:24] <montezuma> im n00b btw
#1451 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Ah, because your router is forwarding DNS requests
#1452 [07:24] <Kreiger> Hey guys, I keep getting Severe errors. anybody know what these are...
#1453 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Look in your router for DNS info
#1454 [07:24] <Kreiger> "at java.net.socketoutputstream.socketWrite0 etc
#1455 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Can you pastebin.com those errors?
#1456 [07:24] <Kreiger> aye. sec
#1457 [07:26] <enys> DNS should be pretty unimportant for hosting MC I was told
#1458 [07:26] <montezuma> Domain Name Server (DNS) Address Get Automatically From ISP
#1459 [07:26] <Kreiger> http://pastebin.com/5zuVxe1H
#1460 [07:26] <montezuma> yea i need it for static ip
#1461 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1462 [07:27] <montezuma> Domain Name Server (DNS) Address Get Automatically From ISP
#1463 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> And Kreiger - Looks like just network troubles on your server, Might be because of your NIC, if you're running an atheros chipset, or it could just be the latest 1.3 patch screwing something up
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#1465 [07:28] <Kreiger> Not running atheros chipset, pretty sure
#1466 [07:33] <ItsCriminal> again offline -.-
#1467 [07:33] <ItsCriminal> brb
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#1474 [07:42] <panitaliemom> hey
#1475 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1476 [07:43] <panitaliemom> Do samone know why i can't login?
#1477 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> Authentication server's down
#1478 [07:44] <panitaliemom> Oh okay How long?
#1479 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> We don't know
#1480 [07:44] <panitaliemom> Kay thank you
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#1483 [07:47] <Dopehead_NL> Is the login server down again ?
#1484 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#1485 [07:48] <Fum> I think server status could be in the channel topic to save people some time.
#1486 [07:48] <Dopehead_NL> Thats just to bad
#1487 [07:48] <Dopehead_NL> Mentioning it in the topic is nice, not having it go down would be even better
#1488 [07:49] <Dopehead_NL> Do they know what causes the outtage ?
#1489 [07:49] <GreyVulpine> mollstam's been working on the DB for days now
#1490 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> From his twitter, sounds like the DB running out of connections, or something
#1491 [07:50] <Dopehead_NL> ah, is it corrupted, or has it got anything to do with the 1.3 update ?
#1492 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/mollstam
#1493 [07:50] <Dopehead_NL> thnx
#1494 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> "The problem isn't the database per se, but the pool implementation is acting up."
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#1496 [07:51] <angry> Why i can not connect on minecraft.net!?
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#1498 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Authentication server's down
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#1500 [07:52] <angry> when its on again?
#1501 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> Soon.
#1502 [07:52] <Orpheus> whats this? the auth serv?
#1503 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1504 [07:52] <angry> thanks for help
#1505 [07:52] <Dopehead_NL> 'pool implementation' , I have not got a clue what that is, but I appreciate the effort to fix it :)
#1506 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> How they have it is, they're on Amazon's EC2 cloud, with 5 servers behind a load balancer.
#1507 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> That setup has been causing them problems ever since they migrated to it
#1508 [07:53] <Dopehead_NL> Now, that does ring a bell, have been playing around with EC2 (on Ubuntu server)
#1509 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Either it's the load balancer being screwed up, or the cluster servers have been going down from load.
#1510 [07:53] <Orpheus> is the in browser and the launcher on seperate servers then?
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#1512 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> No, the thing is, the browser doesn't use SSL for authentication like the new launcher does
#1513 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Okay, on second thought, yeah, it's a seperate server.
#1514 [07:54] <Orpheus> ah right, figures, I buy the game and then can't play *eyeroll*
#1515 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> login.minecraft.net is what the SSL auth uses
#1516 [07:54] <Dopehead_NL> Sounds like a new launcher could benefit from a 'ssl' enable/disable tick box
#1517 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> The old launcher still works, as well as the website?
#1518 [07:55] <Orpheus> I can login inbrowser fine, connect and join servers, just Prefer the launcher.
#1519 [07:55] <Dopehead_NL> havent got the old launcher, I am a devoted updater
#1520 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> Well, before the new launcher, everybody was up in arms, "What do you mean our login info is tranferred in plain text!"
#1521 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> Rawr, rabble rablle
#1522 [07:55] <Orpheus> heh, well people are silly.
#1523 [07:55] <Orpheus> but plain text is silly too :P could sh1a or md5'd it surly
#1524 [07:56] <Dopehead_NL> and for good reason, its just that a tickbox would give people a choice whether or not to allow for plain text login
#1525 [07:56] <angry> do you think server is up on 5 min?
#1526 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> angry - Probably not
#1527 [07:56] <angry> >:(
#1528 [07:56] <Orpheus> it's been down since atleast 09:30 GMT
#1529 [07:57] <Orpheus> hmm, how come I can't view my skin on the site? it just says "or not..."
#1530 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Skin preview has been down since they switched to beta
#1531 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Taking some of the load off.
#1532 [07:57] <angry> cmon notch i need to test my server > : (
#1533 [07:57] <Orpheus> ah fair enough, and I'm guessing I can't switch my skin until the auth servers are back?
#1534 [07:57] <Dopehead_NL> Now, I have donated by buying the game, but I might be able to donate in 'hardware' as well.
#1535 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Orpheus - You can still switch your skin, it'll work.
#1536 [07:58] <GreyVulpine> Just the skin previewer is down. The upload function still works
#1537 [07:58] <Dopehead_NL> used hardware, but still, would it be of any help ?\
#1538 [07:58] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1538 [07:58] <Orpheus> ah right, cool. well i'd imagine the upload function is basic php.
#1539 [07:58] <GreyVulpine> Dopehead_NL - They're currently in talks with another service, hopefully going to migrate somewhere else soon.
#1540 [07:58] <Orpheus> sounds good to me.
#1541 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> They're taking it slow this time, instead of rushing in, like they did with Amazon.
#1542 [07:59] <Dopehead_NL> If there in a cloud, how can they move elsewere ?\
#1543 [07:59] <Orpheus> amazon aren't exactly skilled in servers
#1544 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> They're going to migrate away from amazon, with a company that'll offer service, instead of just servers
#1545 [07:59] <Dopehead_NL> sorry, that was an inside joke, did not realise that does not work in the outside world
#1546 [08:00] <Dopehead_NL> I hope they can find a fast and stable provider
#1547 [08:01] <Fum> angry, add "online-mode=false" to your server and it'll work.
#1548 [08:02] <Dopehead_NL> well I will just have to wait it out, thanx for the info, cheers, bye
#1549 [08:02] * GreyVulpine waves
#1549 [08:02] <Dopehead_NL> :)
#1550 [08:02] <Orpheus> o/
#1551 [08:03] <Orpheus> notch should really add a server status check for the browser.
#1552 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> bah, I need a bigger TNT testing facility...
#1553 [08:03] <angry> Failed to log in: User not prerium
#1554 [08:03] * GreyVulpine goes to dig another branch in his fortress
#1554 [08:03] <angry> Why i buyed the game!?
#1555 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> angry - How long ago?
#1556 [08:04] <angry> umm
#1557 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> Minutes? Hours? Days?
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#1559 [08:04] <Orpheus> angry you're probably having the same issue I am, but if you connect on the inbrowser you can still get in
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#1561 [08:04] <angry> ok
#1562 [08:05] <GreyVulpine> Oh yeah, we still have this set up from last time.. wonder if...
#1563 [08:05] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#1564 [08:05] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1565 [08:05] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, yeah.
#1566 [08:05] <Orpheus> i think you can check if you're flagged as premium by going to http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=YOURUSERNAMEHERE
#1567 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> We also have a bot here that checks that as well
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#1569 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> (also uses the same address)
#1570 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> !paid GreyVulpine
#1571 [08:06] <thermi> !paid Thermi
#1572 [08:06] <thermi> :D
#1573 [08:06] <thermi> !paid test
#1574 [08:06] <Orpheus> !paid CookieOrpheus
#1575 [08:06] <thermi> hehe
#1576 [08:06] <Fum> Orpheus, cool! I was looking for a way to find if someone who took my username has paid for it or could I nag Notch to get a namechange.
#1577 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> Flood protect
#1578 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> It's not possible to get a namechange right now
#1579 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> People have been asking that for months
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#1582 [08:07] <Orpheus> !paid CookieOrpheus
#1583 [08:07] <ReNova> hi guys
#1584 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1585 [08:07] <ReNova> i have a short question
#1586 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.
#1587 [08:07] <chancecarey> !paid
#1588 [08:08] <ReNova> i bought minecraft and it was running fine
#1589 [08:08] <chancecarey> !paid chancecarey
#1590 [08:08] <chancecarey> :P
#1591 [08:08] <ReNova> and today
#1592 [08:08] <ReNova> i cant log in
#1593 [08:08] <thammi1996> can´t you connect to minecraft.net too
#1594 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#1595 [08:08] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1596 [08:08] <angry> Fuuu my server wont work i make it with MCadmin and it says : Connection lost Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset?
#1597 [08:08] <angry> what i should to do?
#1598 [08:08] <Fum> GreyVulpine, in that case, Notch absolutely MUST implement seperate logins and nicknames like Steam or other games. You log in as username123454 but you go to a friend's server and can have Joe as a name.
#1599 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> Fum - I'm not the one to talk to about that
#1600 [08:08] <Orpheus> it is technically possible to get a namechange. I don't entirely see the issue with adding it as a feature, I build websites as a hobby, and I have username change systems in most of the sites, and since minecraft just uses databases it should be easy.
#1601 [08:09] <ReNova> okay so just the log in servers are overloaded :(
#1602 [08:09] <ReNova> thanks for the help
#1603 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Orpheus - It's just that in the DB, the name is the primary key
#1604 [08:09] <Fum> GreyVulpine, yeah. But I just thought I'd spread the idea 'cause it's a logical one.
#1605 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Once you change the name, it delinks and causes problems
#1606 [08:09] <Orpheus> you can change primary keys
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#1608 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> The DB for the premium status can't link up with it
#1609 [08:09] <Orpheus> :P hehe I loop round issues like that, add a new user with the same details, then remove the old one.
#1610 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> And causes problems
#1611 [08:10] <angry> Work stupid server >.<
#1612 [08:10] <ReNova> i am sooo mad right now
#1613 [08:10] <angry> me to
#1614 [08:10] <ReNova> i wanna continue building my arena :(
#1615 [08:10] <Orpheus> it seems odd that you'd use the username as the primary key though
#1616 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Easy guys, it's been going up and down for weeks
#1617 [08:10] <ReNova> and my treefarm finished^^
#1618 [08:10] <ReNova> and my wheat
#1619 [08:10] <ReNova> ooh god
#1620 [08:10] <Fum> angry, did you try doing what I said?
#1621 [08:11] <Orpheus> dudes, it's not that bad, you can still play inbrowser...
#1622 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> Orpheus - It's how Notch first implemented it. He never knew how big Minecraft would get
#1623 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> So.. yeah.
#1624 [08:11] <Orpheus> fair enough.
#1625 [08:12] <Orpheus> just strikes me as odd as a webdeveloper. but ah well :)
#1626 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Enough people have asked for namechanges, that I can't imagine he'll ignore them
#1627 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> We'll see
#1628 [08:12] * Fum wants a nice username because he registered a stupidly long one and all user commands need typing it :<
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#1629 [08:13] <mib_gez7w7> hello is anyone there
#1630 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#1631 [08:13] <Noobicious> Oui
#1632 [08:13] <Fum> Just crickets.
#1633 [08:13] <mib_gez7w7> I have a question regarding the infamous email changing.
#1634 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> That functionality has been disabled already
#1635 [08:14] <mib_gez7w7> Is there a possible way to change this?
#1636 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
#1637 [08:14] <mib_gez7w7> i have everysingle bit of information to that account even to the microscopic sutff
#1638 [08:14] <mib_gez7w7> :S
#1639 [08:14] <Orpheus> you know how many nanometres the email is?:O
#1640 [08:14] <mib_gez7w7> the email that is being using on the account I have got stolen. and I want to change it, but thanks anyways...
#1641 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> You might be able to email mojang at support@mojang.com... but they disabled email address changing for a reason
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#1643 [08:15] <mib_gez7w7> I'm only concerned because its a alpha account
#1644 [08:15] <Orpheus> theft by any chance GreyVulpine?
#1645 [08:15] * GreyVulpine nods
#1645 [08:15] <mib_gez7w7> ahaha
#1646 [08:15] <mib_gez7w7> I
#1647 [08:15] <mib_gez7w7> i
#1648 [08:15] <mib_gez7w7> i'll try that support email
#1649 [08:15] <mib_gez7w7> thanks.
#1650 [08:16] * Fum has an alpha gift code to sell. But he'll wait for release to sell it for 25� >:D
#1650 [08:16] <Shadow386> ima lol when that gift code becomes invalid for that reason >:O
#1651 [08:16] <Orpheus> technically illegal but *shrug* if it doesn't say you can't on the site you can xD
#1652 [08:16] <Orpheus> but im fairly sure notch would have added it to the T&C
#1653 [08:16] <Fum> Ah well. It was only 10� :p
#1654 [08:17] <Shadow386> meh
#1655 [08:17] <Shadow386> still pretty mean
#1656 [08:17] <Orpheus> indeed.
#1657 [08:17] <Shadow386> and proves that mankind is still a bunch of greedy arseholes
#1658 [08:17] <Orpheus> why not give it away? xD you know? as a GIFT xD
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#1660 [08:17] <Fum> I totally want to slap Notch around for having the gift codes show on your profile page unencrypted in any way.
#1661 [08:17] <Shadow386> meh
#1662 [08:17] <Shadow386> lol
#1663 [08:17] <Fum> Orpheus, my friends don't wanna play the game :/
#1664 [08:18] <Orpheus> lol, my friends wanted me to play it xD
#1665 [08:18] <Shadow386> I have one friend who wants it but none of us have the cash for it
#1666 [08:18] <fogWork> Shadow, you cheap bastard ;)
#1667 [08:18] <Orpheus> get fum to give them it *runs*
#1668 [08:18] <Fum> Yeah. I got into it from guys who already have the game and those who didn't none wants to play :p
#1669 [08:19] <Shadow386> fogWork how? :O
#1670 [08:19] <fogWork> "I dunno lolz" ;P
#1671 [08:19] <Shadow386> :P
#1672 [08:19] <Shadow386> I need to work on WraithRO and get it popular again
#1673 [08:19] <Orpheus> I gotta stop being lazy and do some work...
#1674 [08:19] <fogWork> I haven't had time for much gaming lately, Shadow386 =(
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#1676 [08:20] <Shadow386> i kinda do have time for gaming, but I use it all doing everything BUT gaming
#1677 [08:20] <fogWork> Damn social life... and work! *shakes fist*
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#1679 [08:21] <Shadow386> I need to update a few things for sure on there
#1680 [08:22] <fogWork> ;P
#1681 [08:22] <fogWork> Socially or WraithRO?
#1682 [08:23] <Orpheus> :P try running 2 LU servers, scripting an LU server, running a web design company, doing a 9-5 job ( days off FTW!) and working on a breach mod
#1683 [08:23] <Orpheus> it's depressing how little time I get to game :( especially since I have so many games
#1684 [08:24] <fogWork> Just imagine the afterlife, what happens with your individual thought when you die?
#1685 [08:24] <fogWork> Where does it gooooo!
#1686 [08:24] <fogWork> Now that's depressing
#1687 [08:25] <Orpheus> *shrug* depends on your outlook on life, I believe in reincarnation so.
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#1689 [08:26] <johnny> why is minecraft.net down
#1690 [08:26] <fogWork> Because it is
#1691 [08:26] <Orpheus> auth servers down
#1692 [08:26] <Noobicious> It aint for me.
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#1694 [08:27] <johnny> its a bloody pissoff
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#1696 [08:27] <Orpheus> ?? mc.net/authdown
#1697 [08:27] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1698 [08:27] <johnny> 2 guys in my clan are on it and im freaking out cause they could greif me and my friends house
#1699 [08:27] <Noobicious> I can view site, download Beta and login. Nothin' wrong for me.
#1700 [08:28] <johnny> okay i keep forgetting about the in browser
#1701 [08:28] <Orpheus> we all do ;p
#1702 [08:28] <johnny> ;)
#1703 [08:29] <johnny> oka g2g gonna go find the f***ing noteblock in side my house one of my clan members put there... its bloody doing my head in
#1704 [08:29] <Orpheus> lol
#1705 [08:29] <Orpheus> g'l ;)
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#1708 [08:31] <Silvenaage> hello. I have just downloaded the client, does i need to wait the server is ok to install it ?
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#1710 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> For the client, yes
#1711 [08:32] <h1e> hi
#1712 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> You can still log in via the in-browser client though
#1713 [08:32] <Silvenaage> ok ty
#1714 [08:32] <Silvenaage> i gonna try this
#1715 [08:33] <h1e> on ouor server we jound 3 mob spawner ... but in all 3 there are pigs .. we r playing without zombies etc.. ...will they change their spawn if we change ?
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#1719 [08:33] <leiger> Hey everyone. Just to confirm... login server is down again ?
#1720 [08:33] <Orpheus> yh
#1721 [08:34] <leiger> :(
#1722 [08:34] <leiger> Okay, thanks'
#1723 [08:34] * leiger goes off to play local again
#1723 [08:34] <Orpheus> GreyVulpine, you might wanna add it to the topic.
#1724 [08:34] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1725 [08:34] <Orpheus> everyones gunna come on and ask :P you just know it.
#1726 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> Nobody reads the bloody topic anways
#1727 [08:35] <Orpheus> not completly true, i do.
#1728 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> Okay, most, if not all the mibbit users don't.
#1729 [08:36] <Orpheus> mibbit nubs eww..
#1730 [08:36] <Orpheus> irssi+mIRC FTW!
#1731 [08:36] <nevercast> xChat for UI Linux
#1732 [08:36] <Orpheus> I use gentoo :)
#1733 [08:36] <nevercast> and I'd never use mIRC
#1734 [08:36] <nevercast> :)
#1735 [08:36] <Orpheus> how come?:P
#1736 [08:37] <nevercast> Because XChat for Windows is so much nicer
#1737 [08:37] <Noobicious> Is the Login Server down for you? :S Not me.
#1738 [08:37] <nevercast> Noobicious, You sure?
#1739 [08:37] <Orpheus> other than the fail scripting language it has, and it's random disconencts :P i don't have a problem with mIRC
#1740 [08:37] <Noobicious> Myeees
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#1742 [08:37] <Noobicious> Logined, viewed site. And downloaded Beta Software.
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#1744 [08:37] <nevercast> Orpheus, Apart from it's horrible windows 95 look and the fact it has SHAREWARE written all over it?
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#1746 [08:37] <nevercast> No really! Damn popups
#1747 [08:37] <Noobicious> Logined on both Minecraft.net AND my minecraft ingame.
#1748 [08:38] <Noobicious> Nothin wrong.
#1749 [08:38] <Orpheus> nevercast, such things can be removed, without spending anything ;)
#1750 [08:38] <nevercast> Orpheus, I know I know
#1751 [08:38] <nevercast> Orpheus, I just prefer to use something that is actually free.
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#1753 [08:38] <Orpheus> fair play :) I only use mIRC cos i've had it for years, and I have my own UI for it.
#1754 [08:39] <PirateRaff> bah, still that recv failed fault
#1755 [08:39] * GreyVulpine just discovered the joy of Water+TNT+ sand/torch traps
#1755 [08:39] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, lol :D
#1756 [08:39] <PirateRaff> i just discovered the joy of finding ocean, have lotsa tnt and fill a long trench
#1757 [08:39] <surathani> Sorry to interupt, but is ahte auth server down, and is there a satus page to follow?
#1758 [08:40] <nevercast> GreyVulpine, I'm currently standing in a glass dome underwater.. Tis fun also
#1759 [08:40] <PirateRaff> Doing it like moses
#1760 [08:40] <surathani> there*
#1761 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> It takes a crapton of setup, and resetting it is going to be hell.
#1762 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> But this could be fun
#1763 [08:41] <Orpheus> surathani, yes the auth serv is down
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#1765 [08:41] <surathani> Thank you much
#1766 [08:41] <Orpheus> np
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#1770 [08:47] <eLx> Minecraft is down ?
#1771 [08:48] <eLx> Oh
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#1773 [08:48] <eLx> Sry, was to fast to write it, saw it now:)
#1774 [08:48] <Orpheus> :) see told you grey it was worth putting there :P *runs*
#1775 [08:50] <eLx> Where do I put my "skins"?
#1776 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> Log into your profile at minecraft.net, there, you'll see a skin upload thingy
#1777 [08:51] <Orpheus> don't you need to add it to the minecraft.jar too?
#1778 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> Only if you want your skins "offline" as well
#1779 [08:52] <Orpheus> ah i see :)
#1780 [08:53] <eLx> So now when I play on internet, the skin that I put up there is the "how I look like"?
#1781 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1782 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> You can check in-game, by pulling up your inventory, or by pressing F5
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#1785 [08:55] <PirateRaff> seems like alot have problems with the java.net.SocketException_recv failed
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#1788 [08:58] <johnny> idk how to register on the minecraft irc
#1789 [08:58] <peeves> servers down?
#1790 [08:58] <johnny> the login server is down
#1791 [08:58] <peeves> -.-
#1792 [08:59] <peeves> u know when it will run?
#1793 [08:59] <johnny> njope
#1794 [08:59] <DeeWoo> when it grow legs
#1795 [09:00] <peeves> kk^^
#1796 [09:00] <johnny> idk how to register on the minecraft irc the help register is crap
#1797 [09:00] <Tralin|Sleep> /msg nickserv register password email address
#1798 [09:00] <johnny> thanks
#1799 [09:00] <Tralin|Sleep> then you'll be able to talk in the channel
#1800 [09:00] <Tralin|Sleep> no problem
#1801 [09:04] <Orpheus> or just /ns register PASS EMail
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#1805 [09:06] <sF_LucenT> hey
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#1808 [09:09] <o8zby> are the servers down?
#1809 [09:09] <o8zby> ?
#1810 [09:09] <ItsCriminal> yes
#1811 [09:10] <o8zby> ok thanks.
#1812 [09:10] <ItsCriminal> well the authservers are kinda overloaded ^^
#1813 [09:10] <sF_LucenT> i got a question
#1814 [09:10] <o8zby> i have been auth, but it wont let me log on this morning.
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#1816 [09:10] <MrSlimLite> Hello
#1817 [09:10] <MrSlimLite> Can I ask something?
#1818 [09:10] <ItsCriminal> best way to play is go on minecraft.net and play in browser
#1819 [09:11] <ItsCriminal> people just ask ^^
#1820 [09:11] <ItsCriminal> otherwise you never get an answer
#1821 [09:11] <sF_LucenT> is it possible to create a flat world with gras and have endless recourses like on server, but play it on your client?
#1822 [09:11] <MrSlimLite> I just bought minecraft but when I try to log it says cant log to minecraft.net
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#1824 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#1825 [09:11] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1826 [09:11] <Tralin> MrSlimLite, there's a problem with the current client software
#1827 [09:11] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#1828 [09:12] <MrSlimLite> Oh so can I play online with the browser?
#1829 [09:12] <ItsCriminal> thanks GreyVulpine
#1830 [09:12] <ItsCriminal> yes
#1831 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> sF_LucenT - Sorry, the free creative server software is online only. You can't play it offline
#1832 [09:12] <MrSlimLite> Thanks guys :)
#1833 [09:12] <Tralin> MrSlimLite, check PM
#1834 [09:12] <MrSlimLite> See you arround.
#1835 [09:12] <ItsCriminal> kk
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#1837 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> Tralin - If you're distributing the old client file here, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
#1838 [09:13] <sF_LucenT> @greyvulpine i bought the game, don't be scared i am a fake :D
#1839 [09:13] <sF_LucenT> just asking
#1840 [09:13] <sF_LucenT> because i would like to create something big on a flat landscape
#1841 [09:13] <sF_LucenT> how to create a flat landscape
#1842 [09:13] <sF_LucenT> ?
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#1844 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> sF_LucenT - Oh, no, that's not what i meant. The unlimited resources thing is a creative-only thing
#1845 [09:14] <sF_LucenT> so how do i do it?
#1846 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> With beta, you have to gather blocks yourself, or /give, or inventory edit it in yourself. Also, the map generator doesn't make flat maps
#1847 [09:14] <sF_LucenT> what is /give?
#1848 [09:15] <sF_LucenT> I got the beta client 1.3 actually
#1849 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> You can Map Edit an existing map to be flat, but the unexplored regions of the map, once you get to the edge, will generate more random terrain
#1850 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> /give is the Multiplayer admin command to give blocks
#1851 [09:15] <sF_LucenT> so how do i create a multiplayer game ?
#1852 [09:15] <ItsCriminal> you need server
#1853 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1854 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Server files are at the bottom of the page there
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#1856 [09:16] <sF_LucenT> minecraft.net is not working for me actually
#1857 [09:16] <sF_LucenT> -.-'
#1858 [09:16] <Skylined> hmmm
#1859 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#1860 [09:16] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1861 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Oh, the website doesn't work?
#1862 [09:17] <Skylined> So why is it that every server I try to join, it says "Outdated Server"?
#1863 [09:17] <sF_LucenT> oh, now it does
#1864 [09:17] <surathani1> I was just able to log in after long lag, looks overloaded
#1865 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Skylined - Then that server hasn't been updated
#1866 [09:17] <sF_LucenT> I downloaded the server
#1867 [09:17] <surathani1> via web
#1868 [09:17] <Skylined> It's like, the whole first page of the server list and a lot more ._.
#1869 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1870 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean? What list?
#1871 [09:18] <Skylined> http://mcserverlist.net/
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#1874 [09:18] <hakuxer0> #HELP
#1875 [09:19] <sF_LucenT> Vulpine, sorry for disturbing, I started the server software and it ran up, now its "Done" - how do I join my server now? And how do i specify things?
#1876 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I don't know, all those beta server lists are fan-made, and fan-compiled.
#1877 [09:19] <PirateRaff> where does the minecraft files from the .exe download end up?
#1878 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> sF_LucenT - Try 127.0.0.1
#1879 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Op yourself via the server's console
#1880 [09:19] <hakuxer0> how do i get help from an admin here?
#1881 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Then in game, you can use: /give yourname block id number
#1882 [09:19] <Skylined> VoxelHead : What are you, but say my name at the begginning when you say it
#1883 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> For block IDs, you can use the "Dec" values from here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#1884 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> Skylined - VoxelHead is a bot
#1885 [09:20] <Skylined> I know VoxelHead is a bot lol
#1886 [09:20] <Skylined> But he isn't saying it this time o.o
#1887 [09:20] <hakuxer0> how do i get help from an admin here?
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#1889 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> hakuxer0 - What admin?
#1890 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> For what?
#1891 [09:20] <Seb_is_hunting> Hey guys :)
#1892 [09:20] <hakuxer0> i mean, minecraft help
#1893 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> hakuxer0 - Just ask
#1894 [09:20] <sF_LucenT> haha i cant connect to the server because i am not premium, because i cannot log in thanks to auth server :P
#1895 [09:20] <hakuxer0> oh, well, everytime me or any of my friends create a server
#1896 [09:21] <hakuxer0> we are all lagged
#1897 [09:21] <hakuxer0> at least he is doing something
#1898 [09:21] <hakuxer0> and we cant see him
#1899 [09:21] <hakuxer0> we have tried everything, even ports
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#1901 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> Are all of you running the server at the same time as your clients?
#1902 [09:22] <Seb_is_hunting> So, not long ago, i have been on vacation to both Spain and Germany, and I have been able to connect to minecraft.net through the client. Now, I am back from my holidays, back in Holland, and I cannot connect anymore
#1903 [09:22] <hakuxer0> if i create the server, yea i create the client so i can play
#1904 [09:22] <hakuxer0> is that it?
#1905 [09:22] <Seb_is_hunting> Clearly, my home internet is somehow blocking minecraft.net through the client.
#1906 [09:22] <sF_LucenT> Nope, Auth server is down
#1907 [09:22] <Seb_is_hunting> Is there any way I can make the client connect to minecraft.net?
#1908 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Right, but you need to realize hakuxer0, that the server itself reserves a gig of ram, and the client reserves another gig of ram. Unless you have a pretty beefy system, you'll experience some slowdown
#1909 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> ??> Seb_is_hunting mc.net/auth
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#1911 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> bah
#1912 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> ??> Seb_is_hunting mc.net/authdown
#1913 [09:23] <VoxelHead> Seb_is_hunting: (mc.net/authdown) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1914 [09:23] <mib_h2u75i> whatd does ''not downloaded'' mean?!
#1915 [09:23] <mannn> i'm having to go through the browser for now.
#1916 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_h2u75i - Means you don't have the files for minecraft. If you're using the downloaded client, the authentication server is down
#1917 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Try using the in-browser client at minecraft.net
#1918 [09:24] <mib_h2u75i> k thx
#1919 [09:24] <Seb_is_hunting> so, voxel, you are saying that everyone is having this problem?
#1920 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes Seb_is_hunting
#1921 [09:24] <mannn> i'm so happy the browser exists for times like this
#1922 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Also, VoxelHead is a bot
#1923 [09:24] <Seb_is_hunting> Oh, ok.
#1924 [09:24] <hakuxer0> is not PC lag, is internet lagg, like only the server can do wtvr he pleases without slow internet connection, but all of us, are lagged and get timeout in like 2 mins, and we have to join back, also even if we stay in the game, if we destroy a block, we dont get the block instantly, it takes a lot of time for it to appear, sometimes the block just grows back
#1925 [09:24] <sF_LucenT> one more question: What is the White.List?
#1926 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> sF_LucenT - Okay, if a person is on a blacklist, they're forbidden from joining. A whitelist is the opposite. Only people on a whitelist can join a server
#1927 [09:25] <mib_h2u75i> and how can i play with others?!?!
#1928 [09:26] <Seb_is_hunting> Wait, is (mc.net/authdown) supposed to be a link?
#1929 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_h2u75i - You can find an MP server, then type in the address.
#1930 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> No Seb_is_hunting
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#1932 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1933 [09:26] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#1934 [09:26] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#1935 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> hakuxer0 - Are all of your friends traveling away from spawn? Blocks near spawn are protected, and do come back after being destroyed.
#1936 [09:27] <hakuxer0> yea we are all far
#1937 [09:27] <Seb_is_hunting> mc.net/authdown
#1938 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> No Seb_is_hunting, that's not a link
#1939 [09:27] <hakuxer0> ok 1 question, is there no inteernet connection problems regarding minecraft whatsoever?
#1940 [09:27] <Seb_is_hunting> I didn't mean to copy paste it in here xD
#1941 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> hakuxer0 - Yes, the authentication server for the downloaded client is down at the moment
#1942 [09:28] <Seb_is_hunting> So the only way to play is offline, or the website itself. alright, fair enough
#1943 [09:28] <hakuxer0> when i stay inside in any of my friends server i get this message= Connection Lost: Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: connection reset
#1944 [09:28] <Seb_is_hunting> Thanks for the help guys.
#1945 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing Seb.
#1946 [09:29] <mib_h2u75i> wher is a server list?
#1947 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> hakuxer0 - I would just chalk it up to a buggy 1.3 release then. Just wait for a patch, it sounds like a problem other people have as well - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=190756
#1948 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_h2u75i smp/servers
#1949 [09:29] <VoxelHead> mib_h2u75i: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#1950 [09:29] <VoxelHead> mib_h2u75i: (smp/servers) You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#1951 [09:30] <Brainspoil> I currently have a problem with getting diconnected and lagging like crazy when opening invantory and chests.. anyone know why that is?
#1952 [09:30] <hakuxer0> well. ty very much Grey
#1953 [09:30] <mannn> is it really worth it changing the amount of memory used for the server?
#1954 [09:30] <hakuxer0> ;)
#1955 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, that DB is down
#1956 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> mannn - Depends on how much the server is being utilized
#1957 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> mannn - If it's just less than 10 players on at a time, a gig of RAM is usually sufficient.
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#1960 [09:32] <mannn> thank you, i've been trying to find the .class where the memory is assigned inside the jar server file.. but can't, i'm just going to use the batch for now...
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#1962 [09:32] <tapir> hi, I've just purchased a mc server from multiplay.co.uk but it seems like minecraft.net is down again and I can't login. is it possible to bypass the "premium user check" in order to play on my server?
#1963 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes, by going into your server.properties and turning online-mode to false
#1964 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Then rebooting your server afterwards
#1965 [09:33] <tapir> GreyVulpine: does it have any downsides?
#1966 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes, by turning online-mode to false, your server doesn't authenticate names to the DB.
#1967 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Anybody can log in with any name.
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#1969 [09:34] <mib_h2u75i> i dont get it wher i can find servers on the site u gave me
#1970 [09:34] <ludo> I want to make one server too, what spec sminecraft need for a server?
#1971 [09:35] <tapir> GreyVulpine: ah ok, that shouldn't be aproblem
#1972 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> ludo - Depends on your needs.
#1973 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_h2u75i - Try http://mcserverlist.net/
#1974 [09:35] <mannn> i just logged in with client
#1975 [09:35] <ludo> it lag like hell when i connect to my server
#1976 [09:35] <ludo> hosted on my VPS
#1977 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> VPS specs?
#1978 [09:36] <ludo> 512 mb ram, 50% of a core, Windows Server 2008 R2
#1979 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Gah um.
#1980 [09:36] <ludo> and 1 Gbps connection, so I don't know, I just want to know what's the exact spec :p
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#1982 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> What file are you using to launch the server on that VPS?
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#1984 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Please.. don't say minecraft_server.exe
#1985 [09:37] <mib_2i2twn> i'm having an issue with mincraft lagging/ skipping and then it just freezes
#1986 [09:37] <ludo> bah
#1987 [09:37] <mib_2i2twn> anyone have an idea what i can do?
#1988 [09:38] <mannn> client 1.3_01 totally seems to be working now
#1989 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> It is?
#1990 [09:38] <mib_2i2twn> that is the client i am on
#1991 [09:38] <mannn> i just logged in, and forced and update
#1992 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Yay! the downloaded client works!
#1993 [09:39] <ludo> have to say
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#1995 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Excuse the spam
#1996 [09:39] <ludo> minecraft_server.exe, i've used that
#1997 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> ludo - the minecraft_server.exe, if I'm not mistaken, tries to reserve a minimum of a gig of ram
#1998 [09:39] <mannn> gotta hit the mines, thanks for the help
#1999 [09:40] <ludo> ah, so if I buy a 1 Gb VPS with 2 cores, it fit?
#2000 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Well, first off, 512MB is very... low for a MC server, enough for maybe a few people on, max.
#2001 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> You can download the minecraft_server.jar and execute it with less RAM allocation.
#2002 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> The example command line for it is available on the website http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2003 [09:41] <surathani1> I know by default, my server uses 512 from launch
#2004 [09:41] <ludo> because when a people join
#2005 [09:41] <ludo> it lags like hell
#2006 [09:41] <alves1987> Hi, there! Has anyone else been timing out persistently when logging in to an SMP server? (known issue for about 30 minutes)
#2007 [09:41] <ludo> and after 5 minutes, the lag disappear
#2008 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui || The -Xmx argument is the max RAM allocation java will use, the -Xms argument is the starting
#2009 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, could also be the connection. When a person loads, the server will try to send all the surrounding chunk info at once to that player
#2010 [09:43] <surathani1> ok just logged in with the stand alone client
#2011 [09:43] <Fum> GreyVulpine, how do I use those commands when I use Minecraft_Server.exe ?
#2012 [09:43] <ludo> where can I get minecraft_server.jar?
#2013 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> From http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2014 [09:43] <Fum> But it says that's for Linux.
#2015 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#2016 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> You can run .jars on any OS that has java.
#2017 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> doesn't need to be an .exe to run it on windows
#2018 [09:45] <Fum> Oh, okay.
#2019 [09:45] <Orpheus> woo? joined a server i have no skin xD
#2020 [09:45] <ludo> 1 Gbps connection with 100 Mbps full duplex, isn't enough for minecraft server?
#2021 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> You're getting that from a VPS?
#2022 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> I want that VPS....
#2023 [09:46] <ludo> yes
#2024 [09:46] <ludo> xD
#2025 [09:46] <surathani1> Ok, so if i have a .jar server running and want to up the ram allocation, can I do it within java or do i have to adjust argument att launch of server.jar?
#2026 [09:46] <ludo> ikoula
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#2028 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> You adjust it at launch surathani1
#2029 [09:46] <ludo> my VPS is from ikoula, but anyways, how to disable the night?
#2030 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> With the command line
#2031 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> ludo - You can't
#2032 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> You can use the /time command as an op though
#2033 [09:47] <surathani1> yep will do and thx
#2034 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> Try "help" in the server's console to get more info on /time
#2035 [09:47] <Orpheus> [Mon - 14:45:49] <ludo> 1 Gbps connection with 100 Mbps full duplex, isn't enough for minecraft server?
#2036 [09:48] <Orpheus> i'd say unless that VPS is hosting ONLY your server, you wont get that ;)
#2037 [09:48] * GreyVulpine shakes, sounds like more of a NIC spec, than an actual connection speed
#2037 [09:48] <ludo> hmm
#2038 [09:48] <ludo> it uses only 180 Mb with 3 players
#2039 [09:48] <SenSei> Hi all - is this the right place to ask about mc login error?
#2040 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes SenSei
#2041 [09:48] <ludo> so I think it's the connection :P
#2042 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> 180Mb... of what?
#2043 [09:49] <ludo> minecraft server
#2044 [09:49] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2044 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> That really doesn't answer that question.
#2045 [09:50] <SenSei> Note to self: Just login to #MinecraftHelp and all is fixed (the problem i had is not there anymore) lol
#2046 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Hah, well then.
#2047 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Glad to be of help.
#2048 [09:50] <ludo> Ah sorry, well, minecraft server use 180 Mb
#2049 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> I'm guessing that 180Mb is just RAM usage.
#2050 [09:50] <ludo> yes
#2051 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Has nothing to do with your bandwidth.
#2052 [09:51] <SenSei> Ye super - but now i have mIrc installed again - thats some years ago :) - i'll just idle....!
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#2054 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Orpheus and I were just remarking on your 1Gbps 100Mbps bandwidth of your VPS... is most likely not your actual connection speed.
#2055 [09:52] <ludo> The CPU is the cause maybe, because when a client connect on my minecraft server, the second server (not minecraft) lag like hell too, but not the remote desktop connection (but graphics bug)
#2056 [09:52] <Fum> Oh kaaaaayy..... I set up my server using that java -xms1024 command and my player still falls through infinity down on connecting. A few sheep can be seen before i plummet into -3000 and below depths.
#2057 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Fum - Sounds like a network issue. Do you have any firewalls or security software set up on that machine?
#2058 [09:53] <Fum> And I'm connecting via 127.0.0.1 so what network...
#2059 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Firewall then
#2060 [09:53] <Fum> I'm letting it through.
#2061 [09:53] <ludo> It's not the first time I see 1 Gbps with 100 Mbps full duplex port, heh ^^
#2062 [09:54] <ludo> Is this possible to decrease the size of the world map?
#2063 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> ludo - Nope
#2064 [09:54] <Fum> How about deleting chunk files?
#2065 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> Fum - Wait a few minutes, see if it'll eventually load
#2066 [09:54] <Fum> GreyVulpine, it throws an exception and disconnects after a few minutes.
#2067 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> With the new chunk format, it's a little harder to find the right file to delete
#2068 [09:55] <Orpheus> ludo, what's the processor speed of yoru vps? and how much of the core is allocated to your VPS specifically
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#2070 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Fum - Hmm...
#2071 [09:55] <Fum> The F3 graph is mostly all red.
#2072 [09:55] <ludo> Intel Xeon X560 @2,67 GHz
#2073 [09:55] <Fum> It loaded. Yay. After 5 tries.
#2074 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Fum - Stats of your computer?
#2075 [09:55] <ludo> X5650*
#2076 [09:56] <Fum> GreyVulpine, Core2Duo 2,2 GHz, 4 GB of RAM, GeForce 8800. More than enough for a simple block game.... Thank you Java.
#2077 [09:56] <ludo> it's 50% of a core
#2078 [09:56] <GreyVulpine> If it's not your computer, I'm inclined to say it's the new 1.3 patch of minecraft, everybody's been reporting extreme lag and crap performance
#2079 [09:56] <GreyVulpine> I've seen this on my server as well
#2080 [09:57] <ludo> 1.3_01 ?
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#2082 [09:57] <Fum> Error. End of stream. Sigh.
#2083 [09:57] <Orpheus> ludo, that should be more than enough to run minecraft server, if you have the core dedicated to your server. as for lag, Often it's a networking issue, not a processor issue
#2084 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> Hey, that sounds almost like my setup Fum.
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#2087 [09:57] <Orpheus> friends have lag on my listen server, but i have a phenom x4 @3.6ghz and 4 GB of ram :)
#2088 [09:58] <zippity> how can i creat a server
#2089 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Orpheus - ludo's also only got a 512Mb RAM VPS
#2090 [09:58] <Fum> GreyVulpine, it's just sad I can run the newest Bulletstorm FPS game on High detail with stable frames per second but a Java game chokes my computer xD
#2091 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Fum - I know. Minecraft is brutal on many newer computers.
#2092 [09:58] <Orpheus> GreyVulpine, ludo, that would be the issue then
#2093 [09:58] <ludo> the memory would be the issue?
#2094 [09:58] * GreyVulpine nods
#2094 [09:58] <Orpheus> Sounds like your VPS is better suited to linux than windows..
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#2097 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> Welp, I gotta head on out here. Later.
#2098 [09:59] <Orpheus> :X who runs windows on a server with less than 1gb of ram... windows server 2003 uses 128mb just for boot.
#2099 [09:59] <Jaska> GreyVulpine, no java is brutal to any computer ;)
#2100 [09:59] <Orpheus> later GreyVulpine
#2101 [09:59] <Fum> Thank you and bye.
#2102 [09:59] <ludo> bah
#2103 [09:59] <zippity> how can i join a game hosted by a friend?!?!
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#2105 [10:00] <ludo> I've just got my VPS from a free web platform
#2106 [10:00] <ludo> Microsoft :X
#2107 [10:00] <Orpheus> Jaska, Java isn't that brutal on a good system :P
#2108 [10:00] <MrSlimLite> How come whenever I try to connect to a server, connection refused pops up?
#2109 [10:00] <Fum> zippity, ask your friend for his IP address and type it into multiplayer address. (go to whatismyip.org )
#2110 [10:00] <Jaska> wel yeah if its optimized right ;)
#2111 [10:00] <Orpheus> minecraft isn't even that brutal to my system :P
#2112 [10:00] <Orpheus> but i do have an overpowered system for minecraft...
#2113 [10:00] <Jaska> running minecraft smp on old p4 is not an issue.. the bandwidth is :)
#2114 [10:01] <ludo> Lol, minecraft use 800 Mb on my pc
#2115 [10:01] <Orpheus> and the ram if it's low
#2116 [10:01] <Jaska> well yeah that too
#2117 [10:01] <Orpheus> 800mb of what ludo?
#2118 [10:01] <MrSlimLite> I keep getting Connection refused: connection when I try to connect to a server.. why?
#2119 [10:01] <ludo> of RAM
#2120 [10:01] <Orpheus> MrSlimLite, sounds like a port not been forwarded.
#2121 [10:01] <ludo> sorry it's a habit :P
#2122 [10:02] <Orpheus> no worries. 800 MB of ram isn't too bad, it noms about 1.5GB on my system.
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#2124 [10:02] <co> Hello, if I buy the beta will I have the full game ?
#2125 [10:02] <Orpheus> gb? :S mb*
#2126 [10:02] <Fum> co, yes.
#2127 [10:02] <Fum> Unless there will be no full game.
#2128 [10:02] <zippity> HOW CAN I JOIN A SERVER!?!?
#2129 [10:03] <ludo> zippity, there is a Multiplayer menu on the main menu...
#2130 [10:03] <Jaska> mh.
#2131 [10:03] <Fum> zippity, ask your friend for his IP address and type it into multiplayer address. (go to whatismyip.org )
#2132 [10:03] <MrSlimLite> Does anyone has a list with survival servers I could join?
#2133 [10:04] <ludo> I think that minecraft should have a master server :P
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#2135 [10:04] <MrSlimLite> yep
#2136 [10:04] <MrSlimLite> I want to join a server which has the same things as in single player
#2137 [10:04] <MrSlimLite> building items and stuff
#2138 [10:04] <Orpheus> a server browser would be nice.
#2139 [10:04] <zippity> What if its automaticilly refused!!?!?!?
#2140 [10:05] <Fum> zippity, your friend has a firewall or you are not logged into a paid account.
#2141 [10:05] <zippity> k thx
#2142 [10:05] <Jaska> gotta love those "!?!?!?"
#2143 [10:05] <Jaska> :)
#2144 [10:06] <Orpheus> FIX IT!!?!?!??!?!
#2145 [10:06] <Orpheus> xD
#2146 [10:06] <Jaska> adhd
#2147 [10:06] <Jaska> :P
#2148 [10:06] <Fum> Why you hate them?!?????
#2149 [10:06] <Jaska> <Jaska> gotta love those "!?!?!?"
#2150 [10:06] <Jaska> :O
#2151 [10:06] <zippity> still doesnt work, whats wrong!!?!
#2152 [10:06] <Jaska> i said I love'em
#2153 [10:07] <Jaska> zippity, give up and go to another server
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#2155 [10:07] <MrSlimLite> Please, could someone tell me a server similar to the single player gameplay?
#2156 [10:08] <ludo> What do you mean?
#2157 [10:08] <Zijit> Has anyone had a slight problem of all their textures except mobs, lava, and cave locations randomly becoming invisible on them?
#2158 [10:09] <MrSlimLite> Does someone has a server that know that works? Give me the IP or something since all the servers I tryed gave me errors
#2159 [10:09] <MrSlimLite> Like.. Failed to login: bad login
#2160 [10:09] <zippity> how can I rzn a server1ßßß
#2161 [10:10] <Orpheus> *gone*
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#2163 [10:10] <Jaska> MrSlimLite, sound like auth problem to me :\
#2164 [10:10] <Jaska> and I don't dare to tell my server ip as its private :D
#2165 [10:10] <Zijit> Jaska : How's bout my pro'lem?
#2166 [10:11] <MrSlimLite> Jaska, can you try an IP for me and see if the server works?
#2167 [10:11] <MrSlimLite> Just to know if its me or the servers problem
#2168 [10:11] <Jaska> MrSlimLite, sure
#2169 [10:11] <MrSlimLite> 85.236.102.40:31065
#2170 [10:11] <Jaska> and Zijit. yeah if the server is overloaded
#2171 [10:11] <Zijit> Odd
#2172 [10:12] <Zijit> It'd never happened to me before 1.3.01
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#2174 [10:12] <MrSlimLite> What does White Listed means?
#2175 [10:12] <Jaska> only users in "whitelist" are allowed to connect
#2176 [10:13] <Zijit> Yup
#2177 [10:13] <Zijit> Later all
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#2179 [10:13] <MrSlimLite> Yeah I got the same thing now Jaska, but what does it mean?
#2180 [10:13] <xales> what's the problem?
#2181 [10:14] <Jaska> thats what it means.. there is a text file called "whitelist.txt" which contains all players that are allowed to join the server
#2182 [10:14] <Jaska> if you're not on the list you get blocked
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#2184 [10:15] <fuogo> Im having problems with the game running to fast. I have a amd dual core processor so i set the affinity to only one core. But I am still having problems. It barely lags, but simply runs way to fast. It gets annoying because i spit out 2 or 3 blocks with one click
#2185 [10:16] <Jaska> fuogo have you tried the "limit framerate" from the video settings?
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#2187 [10:16] <Jaska> doubt that helps but still..
#2188 [10:16] <Jaska> give it a gop
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#2190 [10:16] <fuogo> alright thanks
#2191 [10:16] <Jaska> go*
#2192 [10:17] <fuogo> Is there anything else you can think of?
#2193 [10:17] <xales> fuogo: easy fix
#2194 [10:17] <fuogo> Actually ya that makes sense because my frame rate bounces between 40 and 170fps
#2195 [10:17] <xales> fuogo: install the "amd dual core optimizer" from the AMD site
#2196 [10:17] <fuogo> thats pretty unstable lol
#2197 [10:17] <xales> that will fix it
#2198 [10:18] <fuogo> alright thank you Ill try that.
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#2200 [10:21] <Desparil> just got a NIC with realtek chipset, here goes for no more socket exceptions...
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#2203 [10:32] <Kreiger> Whats the best way to hook up an iron door so that I can open it frm the outside, but monsters can't?
#2204 [10:32] <Kreiger> I've tried having two levers attached to it, but that doesn't work.
#2205 [10:32] <xales> button
#2206 [10:32] <Kreiger> lever on inside, button on outside?
#2207 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Levers or buttons, monsters can't use either
#2208 [10:32] <Kreiger> And how do I open it from the inside?
#2209 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Pick your poison.
#2210 [10:33] <Kreiger> I've had trouble linking both.
#2211 [10:33] <blip2> floor plates are fun :]
#2212 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> For ease of use, pressure plates work
#2213 [10:33] <Kreiger> I tried two levers and only one worked
#2214 [10:33] <Kreiger> ok, but how do i get a lever to close and open on the outside and a plate to open and close inside?
#2215 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Just need to hook up a lever to both doors, one door needs to have a NOT gate attached to it
#2216 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to redstone accordingly
#2217 [10:34] <Kreiger> I only have one door.
#2218 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#2219 [10:34] <blip2> latching circuit with dual input? :]
#2220 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> If it's just one door, that's even easier
#2221 [10:34] <Kreiger> i'm a newb to redstone.
#2222 [10:34] <blip2> t type flip flop
#2223 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Button on outside, button on inside
#2224 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> press button, momentary switch, opens for a few seconds
#2225 [10:36] <Kreiger> how do i set abutton to be a momentary switch?
#2226 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> It already is.
#2227 [10:38] <V|jeev4> is there anyway to retract gift codes ?
#2228 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Try an email to payment@mojang.com
#2229 [10:38] <V|jeev4> thanks
#2230 [10:38] <V|jeev4> because 2 people promised they would pay me, 3 months ago already, but they still haven't.
#2231 [10:39] <blip2> chances are no :/
#2232 [10:40] <dopeghoti> V|jeev4: I don't expect gift codes are ungiveable; that's the nature of a _gift_ code.
#2233 [10:41] <V|jeev4> afais its the only way to get minecraft for people that don't have credit cards
#2234 [10:41] <dopeghoti> PayPal.
#2235 [10:41] <xales> ^
#2236 [10:41] <V|jeev4> paypal is not in our country
#2237 [10:41] <dopeghoti> Buh wha?
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#2239 [10:43] <dopeghoti> that aside, lesson learned: if you're being a proxy purchaser, wait for payment before giving out gift codes.
#2240 [10:44] <V|jeev4> yes well, the people are in my clan
#2241 [10:44] <V|jeev4> i would have expected them to pay
#2242 [10:44] <V|jeev4> now they are full of excuses
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#2244 [10:44] <dopeghoti> again- lesson learned.
#2245 [10:45] * dopeghoti , having sent out a related email, crawls back into bed and, once again conscious, will be working from home today. Whee.
#2245 [10:45] <V|jeev4> i just got back from work
#2246 [10:45] <V|jeev4> 40'C outside
#2247 [10:46] <V|jeev4> gonna jump in my pool
#2248 [10:46] <V|jeev4> :)
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#2255 [11:17] <jonasm> Is there a bukkit irc channel?
#2256 [11:18] <xales> #bukkit
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#2262 [11:26] <waxboy> hi
#2263 [11:26] <waxboy> im having a problem with minecraft, it wont get past the loading screen
#2264 [11:27] <jonasm> Redownloading may work.
#2265 [11:28] <xales> ??> waxboy win/reinst
#2266 [11:28] <VoxelHead> waxboy: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2267 [11:28] <VoxelHead> waxboy: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2269 [11:30] <waxboy> looks like it worked
#2270 [11:30] <waxboy> i think i did this before though
#2271 [11:31] <waxboy> oh well, thanks anyways
#2272 [11:32] <waxboy> now i can play
#2273 [11:32] <waxboy> :)
#2274 [11:32] <xales> :)
#2275 [11:32] <jonasm> Yeah. Deleting the bin folder will force a minecraft.jar redownload.
#2276 [11:34] <waxboy> i could have sworn i already did that
#2277 [11:36] <jonasm> Lol.
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#2279 [11:44] <edd> hey guys
#2280 [11:44] <xales> hi
#2281 [11:44] <edd> i played mc earlier today and it worked fine
#2282 [11:44] <edd> but now it is getting stuck on the "logging in" screen
#2283 [11:44] <xales> playing multiplayer?
#2284 [11:45] <edd> i cant even get to the screen where you choose
#2285 [11:45] <xales> does it actually say "logging in"?
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#2288 [11:45] <edd> yeh
#2289 [11:46] <xales> can you take a screenshot of it? it doesn't normally say that =/
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#2291 [11:47] <edd> http://ScrnSht.com/lnwdcx
#2292 [11:48] <edd> its done this for the last 3-4 times i've tried
#2293 [11:48] <xales> oh, hmm
#2294 [11:48] <xales> can you get to http://minecraft.net/ ?
#2295 [11:48] <edd> scratch that
#2296 [11:48] <edd> its literally just started working :|
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#2298 [11:48] <edd> hahaha
#2299 [11:49] <xales> it could just be that the login server is slow again
#2300 [11:49] <edd> thanks anyway :)
#2301 [11:51] * xales prods Kealper
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#2302 [11:54] <SenSei> >>edd i also had trouble and it was fixed just by loggin in to this Irc chan. - hehe ,)
#2303 [11:54] <SenSei> did nothing else than loggin in :)
#2304 [11:55] <SenSei> .
#2305 [11:56] <jonasm> The login server is reall slow. Mojang is at GDC. So, its going to be slow for a while.
#2306 [11:57] <xales> jonasm: it's not like they can't fix it from there
#2307 [11:57] <BarryCarlyon> That many geeks in a room and you expect the wifi to work?
#2308 [11:57] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#2309 [11:58] <jonasm> They tried. But Noth tweeter that they weren't planning on fixing it yet.
#2310 [11:58] <jonasm> Notch tweeted*
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#2314 [12:07] <jonasm> But yeah
#2315 [12:07] <jonasm> Check Twitter for notchs updates.
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#2324 [12:27] * Kealper yawns
#2324 [12:27] <ifish> Morning Kealper
#2325 [12:27] <xales> hi Kealper
#2326 [12:27] <Kealper> ello
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#2329 [12:27] <xales> I'm migrating my server to Arch this weekend \o/
#2330 [12:27] <Kealper> i was making breakfast when you prodded me lol
#2331 [12:27] <Kealper> :o
#2332 [12:27] <xales> :P
#2333 [12:28] <ifish> :o
#2334 [12:28] <xales> and in my documentation exploration, I found something for you to look at
#2335 [12:28] <xales> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux
#2336 [12:28] <xales> just read that :)
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#2338 [12:28] <ifish> Kealper, have you ever encountered random chests underground when mining?
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#2340 [12:28] <ifish> Since today I did. And it had a lot of gun powder and irong ingots
#2341 [12:28] <ifish> iron*
#2342 [12:28] <Kealper> those are dungeons
#2343 [12:28] <xales> ^
#2344 [12:28] <xales> ninja
#2345 [12:28] <xales> :<
#2346 [12:29] <Kealper> wataaaaaaaaa!!
#2347 [12:29] <xales> ._.
#2348 [12:29] <M> ._.
#2349 [12:29] <ifish> Dungeons? :O
#2350 [12:29] <Kealper> >-.
#2351 [12:29] <Kealper> fail
#2352 [12:29] <Kealper> ._.
#2353 [12:29] <ifish> .-.
#2354 [12:29] <xales> pretty much yeah
#2355 [12:29] <ifish> Is there any point to them? :P
#2356 [12:29] <Kealper> free stuff
#2357 [12:29] <ifish> Oh, haha.
#2358 [12:29] <xales> they have mob spawners and stuff you can't otherwise get
#2359 [12:29] <xales> like saddles
#2360 [12:29] <xales> and records, but those you can get elsewhere, just not easily
#2361 [12:29] <ifish> Yup, I got a saddle
#2362 [12:30] <xales> .reload
#2363 [12:30] <M> Reloaded scripts
#2364 [12:30] <xales> Kealper
#2365 [12:30] <xales> do a ._.
#2366 [12:30] <Kealper> go find a pig and put the saddle on it, right click to see the most useless feature of the game
#2367 [12:30] <Kealper> ._.
#2368 [12:30] <M> ._.
#2369 [12:30] <Kealper> lol
#2370 [12:30] <ifish> Kealper, let me guessl I can ride it?
#2371 [12:30] <Kealper> ehh....riding it means you can control it....lol
#2372 [12:31] <Kealper> it's a pig not a horse :/
#2373 [12:31] <ifish> :x
#2374 [12:31] <Kealper> lol @ arch's package manager
#2375 [12:31] <ifish> Anyway, I also found some blue stone today and Diamond
#2376 [12:32] <xales> Kealper, aside from reading that, also look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions#Beginner-friendly
#2377 [12:32] <Kealper> blue stone is lapis lazuli
#2378 [12:32] <xales> :>
#2379 [12:32] <ifish> I have no idea what the blue stuff is. Minecraft equivlent of Sapphire?
#2380 [12:32] <ifish> Oh
#2381 [12:32] <xales> it's a dye
#2382 [12:32] <xales> you can dye sheep with it
#2383 [12:32] <xales> and wool
#2384 [12:32] <ifish> lol, blue sheep
#2385 [12:32] <xales> makes blue wool
#2386 [12:32] <ifish> I see
#2387 [12:32] <dopeghoti> ProTip- dye sheep, not wool; you get more out of it.
#2388 [12:33] <ifish> Aha, I will :P
#2389 [12:34] <ifish> The only use of gunpowder is TNT, right?
#2390 [12:34] <dopeghoti> ifyou mean sulphur, yes
#2391 [12:34] <ifish> Also, I foundsome redstone
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#2393 [12:35] <ifish> One this I hate about Minecraft is all the useless things I end up keeping in my inventory forever
#2394 [12:35] <ifish> hing*
#2395 [12:35] <ifish> thing*
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#2399 [12:37] <Nexer> p
#2400 [12:37] <Nexer> Hey i have a question
#2401 [12:37] <xaviergmail> Hey is it possible to recover a worlds seed?
#2402 [12:38] <Kealper> Arch sounds scary
#2403 [12:38] <dopeghoti> ??> Nexer ask
#2404 [12:38] <VoxelHead> Nexer: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2405 [12:38] <VoxelHead> Nexer: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2406 [12:38] <dopeghoti> Kealper: no more so than Gentoo.
#2407 [12:38] <Kealper> gentoo didn't boot into CLI ._.
#2408 [12:38] <xales> Kealper: ?
#2409 [12:39] <xales> also, how is it scary? ._.
#2410 [12:39] <Nexer> dopeghoti
#2411 [12:39] <Nexer> i downloaded the game
#2412 [12:39] <Nexer> played it
#2413 [12:39] <Nexer> and yea deleted it
#2414 [12:39] <ifish> Grrr where does Minecraft save my snapshots? ;__;
#2415 [12:39] <Nexer> months later
#2416 [12:39] <dopeghoti> ??> ifish win/.minecraft
#2417 [12:39] <Nexer> i figured out the name of the game
#2418 [12:39] <VoxelHead> ifish: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#2419 [12:39] <Kealper> meh....i'll see how scary it is....VM AHOY!
#2420 [12:39] <Nexer> Then
#2421 [12:39] <Nexer> downlaoded it again
#2422 [12:39] <Nexer> logged in
#2423 [12:39] <Nexer> User not premium _ Try again
#2424 [12:39] <ifish> dopeghoti, thanks :P
#2425 [12:40] <Nexer> what does that mean ?
#2426 [12:40] <Nexer> i cant even play offline
#2427 [12:40] <xales> Nexer: what is your username?
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#2429 [12:40] <dopeghoti> Nexer: please do not use Enter as punctuation. What is the username you selected for your Minecraft account?
#2430 [12:40] <Kealper> arch did a really good job at making a uniform site...the wiki looks exactly like the rest of the site lol
#2431 [12:40] <Nexer> Nexerz1337
#2432 [12:40] <dopeghoti> !paid Nexerz1337
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#2434 [12:41] <ifish> My ghetto house in minecraft http://twitpic.com/44ret5
#2435 [12:41] <Nexer> how did he know ?
#2436 [12:41] <xaviergmail> is it possible to recover an existing world's seed?
#2437 [12:41] <xales> Kealper: what's scary about it? ._.
#2438 [12:41] <xales> xaviergmail: yes. open it with nbtedit
#2439 [12:41] <Nexer> but anyway i wanna play offline with skeletons etc
#2440 [12:41] <xales> Nexer: you have to buy it
#2441 [12:41] <xaviergmail> thx xales
#2442 [12:41] <dopeghoti> Nexer: if you want to play Survival, you must have purshaased the game.
#2443 [12:41] <Kealper> xales: no GUI on initial install....not having a GUI makes me feel so....naked.... Lo
#2444 [12:41] <Kealper> :o*
#2445 [12:42] <Nexer> if i wanna play survival , is there more modes to play ?
#2446 [12:42] <dopeghoti> Kealper: Gentoo didn't have a GUI installer either.
#2447 [12:42] <Nexer> Coffe1336
#2448 [12:42] <xales> Kealper: it takes all of 5 minutes to install one if you really want ._.
#2449 [12:42] <dopeghoti> Nexer: yes, there's Classic, which is free, and older.
#2450 [12:42] <Nexer> yea but that one sucked
#2451 [12:42] <Kealper> the one i did had one....it was like bare X but it was a gui lol
#2452 [12:42] <Nexer> what does the game cost ?
#2453 [12:42] <xales> Nexer: 14.99EUR
#2454 [12:42] <dopeghoti> Well, if you want the newer updates, you gots to purchase. It coses EUR14.95 presently.
#2455 [12:42] <Nexer> in NOK please ?
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#2457 [12:43] <Nexer> norwegian crouns
#2458 [12:43] <dopeghoti> NOK being which currency?
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#2460 [12:43] <xales> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=15EUR+in+NOK
#2461 [12:43] <Nexer> Norway
#2462 [12:43] <xales> ^that
#2463 [12:43] <Kealper> man i got ninja'd so hard on that
#2464 [12:43] <Wahrheit> 14.95 British pounds sterling = 136.3588 Norwegian kroner
#2465 [12:43] <Nexer> 116 norske kroner that was fucking much for a
#2466 [12:44] <Nexer> yea not good game
#2467 [12:44] <Wahrheit> xales: he trollin
#2468 [12:44] <dopeghoti> 14.95 euros = 111.4624 Danish kroner
#2469 [12:44] <Wahrheit> oh euros
#2470 [12:44] <Wahrheit> not pounds
#2471 [12:44] <dopeghoti> Wahrheit: GBP != EUR
#2472 [12:44] <Wahrheit> trolololol
#2473 [12:44] <Nexer> but thats for Beta right ?
#2474 [12:44] <Wahrheit> dopeghoti: ninja'd
#2475 [12:44] <Wahrheit> Nexer: If you purchase the game now you will receive all major updates, just not expansion packs.
#2476 [12:44] <dopeghoti> Nexer: that's for Beta and all future updates and bug fixes, but not expansions
#2477 [12:44] <Kealper> Nexer: that gets you into beta, and gets you the final game when it's made
#2478 [12:44] <Wahrheit> You will receive the FINAL version etc.
#2479 [12:44] <Nexer> BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION now to the other
#2480 [12:44] <Wahrheit> YOU GUYS GOT NINJA'D AGAIN
#2481 [12:45] <Wahrheit> :)
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#2483 [12:45] <Nexer> i Downloaded Minecraft alpha 1.5.0 or something
#2484 [12:45] <Wahrheit> How?
#2485 [12:45] <Nexer> Wright in my User - oas
#2486 [12:45] <Wahrheit> We don't condone piracy here.
#2487 [12:45] <Nexer> user - pass
#2488 [12:45] <Nexer> then
#2489 [12:45] <ifish> What should I do with my diamonds? I have 2. So should I made a pickaxe?
#2490 [12:45] <Nexer> PLAY ONLINE ONCE to play offline
#2491 [12:45] <Wahrheit> Yes, because you pirated the software. It won't work.
#2492 [12:45] <ifish> Piracy is wrong~
#2493 [12:45] <Kealper> ifish: uhh....save em for a bit
#2494 [12:46] <Nexer> so i got to buy it
#2495 [12:46] <ifish> Will do :)
#2496 [12:46] <Wahrheit> Yar
#2497 [12:46] <Nexer> nothung else work ?
#2498 [12:46] <dopeghoti> No.
#2499 [12:46] <Wahrheit> Precisely
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#2501 [12:46] <Nexer> i will try another pirate shit
#2502 [12:46] <Nexer> but i wanna test the game
#2503 [12:46] <xales> Nexer: no, you won't, because that is illegal :)
#2504 [12:46] <Kealper> ifish: when you can...make a pickaxe and a sword out of them...so get 3 more lol
#2505 [12:46] * dopeghoti kicked Nexer from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: then don't expect support here.)
#2506 [12:46] <xales> you don't get to test it
#2507 [12:46] <xales> or..that
#2508 [12:46] <Wahrheit> ninjaninjaninja
#2509 [12:47] <Wahrheit> :)
#2510 [12:47] <ifish> I'll be right back
#2511 [12:47] <xales> anyway, Kealper
#2512 [12:47] <Kealper> archlinux-2010.05-netinstall-x86_64.iso has finished downloading
#2513 [12:47] <xales> beyond the 'scary' no GUI, doesn't that sound more intersting and useful than Mint? :P
#2514 [12:48] <Kealper> seems like it would be a learning experience for linux, which is why imma install it and set it up on a vm
#2515 [12:48] <xales> ._.
#2516 [12:48] <M> ._.
#2517 [12:48] <xales> do it for reals
#2518 [12:48] <xales> install on desktop
#2519 [12:48] <xales> on a dualboot
#2520 [12:48] <xales> :)
#2521 [12:48] <Kealper> oh god......i seriously just thought "man..i wonder if there is an irc client for command line linux"
#2522 [12:48] <xales> :P
#2523 [12:49] <xales> owned
#2524 [12:49] <Kealper> the promptly went "waaaaaait a tick...." after glancing at what i was just typing in lol
#2525 [12:49] <dopeghoti> *facepalm*
#2526 [12:49] <dopeghoti> Question I was once asked: "Is there a Linux version of PuTTY?"
#2527 [12:49] <Kealper> that's how you can tell i just woke up an hour ago lol
#2528 [12:49] <Kealper> ._.
#2529 [12:49] <M> ._.
#2530 [12:49] <Kealper> >.>
#2531 [12:50] <dopeghoti> That's more or less what I said.
#2532 [12:50] <xales> Kealper
#2533 [12:50] <ifish> Back. :)
#2534 [12:50] <xales> vm = no fun
#2535 [12:50] <xales> :<
#2536 [12:51] <Kealper> but vm means i can kill it with fire faster when i break something
#2537 [12:52] * ifish saunters off to go watch anime.
#2537 [12:52] <ifish> Talk to you guys late
#2538 [12:52] <ifish> later*
#2539 [12:52] <dopeghoti> have fun
#2540 [12:52] <Kealper> cya
#2541 [12:52] <xales> Kealper, just note
#2542 [12:52] <xales> that a Gnome desktop environment that boots in about 8 seconds when properly configured
#2543 [12:52] <xales> is known to cause fanboyism >:D
#2544 [12:52] <Kealper> oh god
#2545 [12:52] <xales> and if you want it even faster
#2546 [12:52] <Kealper> seriously?
#2547 [12:52] <xales> use fluxbox
#2548 [12:53] <xales> takes like 5 seconds
#2549 [12:53] <Kealper> o.o
#2550 [12:53] <xales> to go from derp grub loading -> slim
#2551 [12:53] <xales> slim = login manager thingy
#2552 [12:53] <xales> you can recompile the kernel with stuff you don't need in it and avoid using an initrd in the process
#2553 [12:53] <xales> making it boot really, really fast
#2554 [12:54] <xales> without the stuff you don't need*
#2555 [12:54] <dopeghoti> But really, do you really need X _at all_?
#2556 [12:54] <xales> ^
#2557 [12:54] <Kealper> yes ._.
#2558 [12:54] <xales> Kealper, eventually, you won't )
#2559 [12:54] <xales> :)*
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#2561 [12:54] <xales> just keep using Linux and you will slowly gravitate to not using it
#2562 [12:54] <xales> :>
#2563 [12:54] <xales> anyway
#2564 [12:54] <xales> time for me to go
#2565 [12:54] <dopeghoti> ciao
#2566 [12:54] <Kealper> but...i like pretty pictures on my screen
#2567 [12:54] <Kealper> cya
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#2569 [12:55] <xales> Kealper: figlet >:D
#2570 [12:55] <dopeghoti> Kealper: In all seriousness, if you need any linux help, I"m happy to assist.
#2571 [12:55] <xales> anyway
#2572 [12:55] * xales goes
#2572 [12:55] <Kealper> dopeghoti: don't worry, i will lol
#2573 [12:57] <Kealper> ok this installer is actually much better than i thought
#2574 [12:57] <Kealper> ansi art ftw
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#2576 [12:59] <Simonekis_> Hi
#2577 [13:00] <Kealper> the Arch installer is so amazingly easy....this is no different from a gui installer O.o
#2578 [13:00] <Kealper> and hello
#2579 [13:00] <Simonekis_> I'm wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I'm having trying to (update/re)install bukkit.
#2580 [13:00] <dopeghoti> ??> Simonekis_ mods
#2581 [13:00] <VoxelHead> Simonekis_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2582 [13:00] <VoxelHead> Simonekis_: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2583 [13:01] <Simonekis_> Thanks
#2584 [13:02] <Kealper> dopeghoti: ext3 or ext4? i know 4 is newer, but any real reason to use it over ext3?
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#2586 [13:04] * Kealper just pushes ext4
#2586 [13:04] <dopeghoti> Ext4 is the way to go, yeah
#2587 [13:05] <dopeghoti> It's faster and supports larger files and partition sizes
#2588 [13:05] <Kealper> this has to be one of the easiest installers i've seen/used for linux
#2589 [13:07] <Kealper> is arch's main repo actually useful or should i use the devel repo?
#2590 [13:07] * Kealper glares at CentOS's repo
#2590 [13:07] <dopeghoti> I haven't used Arch, but IIRC you will probably want one of the extra repos.
#2591 [13:07] <dopeghoti> It's not as bad as RHEL or CentOS
#2592 [13:07] <dopeghoti> (but then, what would be?)
#2593 [13:08] <Kealper> hmm...autoconf and automake are stuff to make compiling easier?
#2594 [13:09] * Kealper selects all the packages that sound even remotely useful
#2594 [13:09] <bugweiser> Maybe someone here has a solution ;)
#2595 [13:09] <bugweiser> Hi guys, my Java IPV6 Problem still stands on. Talked to hoster who means everything is correctly. => http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056 Message appears if someone trys connecting my server. In Public Modus it work.
#2596 [13:09] <dopeghoti> ?? java/ipv6
#2597 [13:09] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#2598 [13:09] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#2599 [13:09] <Kealper> bugweiser: have you tried forcing ja....dangit
#2600 [13:10] <bugweiser> yea tried it
#2601 [13:10] <bugweiser> but doesn't work
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#2603 [13:38] <Kealper> RAGE
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#2605 [13:39] <Kealper> fucking internet cut out...literally 30 seconds before i started to download packages on that arch netinstall
#2606 [13:39] <BurnZeZ> lol
#2607 [13:40] <Coll> hey Healper you should have seen grey last night
#2608 [13:40] <Coll> XD
#2609 [13:40] <Coll> he ripped a whole section of me and Atoms house apart trying to wire 2 doors
#2610 [13:40] <Coll> XD
#2611 [13:41] <Coll> Kealper I mean
#2612 [13:41] <Coll> :P
#2613 [13:41] <Kealper> O.o
#2614 [13:41] <Kealper> it isn't that hard u.u
#2615 [13:41] <Coll> well the way we have it
#2616 [13:41] <Coll> really difficult to wire
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#2618 [13:42] <Coll> but I got it fixed and working fine
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#2620 [13:42] <ndmnick> hello
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#2622 [13:42] <Coll> as well as got a door protection system installed near by
#2623 [13:42] <ifish> Back :P
#2624 [13:42] <Coll> you should come and check it out
#2625 [13:42] <Coll> and tell me if it is ok
#2626 [13:42] <Coll> or can be inproved
#2627 [13:42] <ndmnick> is there someone who can help me with my own world?
#2628 [13:43] <Coll> depends
#2629 [13:43] <Coll> whats wrong with it
#2630 [13:43] <ndmnick> my computer crashed when i was playing in it, after i can back my world was gone:(
#2631 [13:43] <ndmnick> came*
#2632 [13:44] <ndmnick> somehow it disappeared
#2633 [13:44] <Coll> I dont know how you can get it back
#2634 [13:45] <ndmnick> but is there not something on my computer that saves all my games? cant find any maps
#2635 [13:45] <Coll> check .minecraft folder
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#2637 [13:45] <Coll> and see if your world is there
#2638 [13:45] <Kau> huhu^^
#2639 [13:46] <ndmnick> where to i have to look?
#2640 [13:46] <Coll> I dont know what operating system you are running
#2641 [13:46] <ndmnick> i searched on my windows but it did not found anything
#2642 [13:47] <BurnZeZ> Anyone here use MineOS?
#2643 [13:48] <ndmnick> rlly sucks man need to start all over again:( hope someone from the creaters of the game is going to contact me:P
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#2645 [13:48] <Kealper> o.o
#2646 [13:48] <Coll> I highly doubt that nick
#2647 [13:49] <Kealper> i used the name Kau for the longest time on a specific game
#2648 [13:49] <Kealper> i should be a douche and link it to my nick
#2649 [13:49] <Coll> lol
#2650 [13:49] <Kealper> -NickServ(services@esper.net)- Nickname Kau has been linked to your nickname.
#2651 [13:49] <Coll> MineOS huh
#2652 [13:49] <Coll> how does this work exactly
#2653 [13:49] <Kealper> depends, what did you want to know about it?
#2654 [13:50] <Kealper> it's basically a linux distro that has been customized to work best with a minecraft server....although i've seen mixed reviews on it
#2655 [13:51] <Coll> hmm
#2656 [13:51] <Coll> I could dual boot it on my desktop
#2657 [13:51] <Coll> I think
#2658 [13:51] <Coll> just like
#2659 [13:51] <BurnZeZ> It's cool if you can get it to work.
#2660 [13:51] <Coll> I only have a gig of ram on it
#2661 [13:51] <Coll> and it has a Celeron D proccessor
#2662 [13:51] <Coll> would it make hosting a server faster
#2663 [13:51] <Coll> or are my specs too slow still to handle it
#2664 [13:52] <BurnZeZ> I'm using a single core 3.07ghz 512MB ram for it.
#2665 [13:52] <BurnZeZ> Works fine.
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#2669 [14:00] <Vandborg> Hi
#2670 [14:01] <Vandborg> When my girl friend joins a server she just fall. Windows 7. If she logs in from my Mac nothing wrong. Tried to delete the client and the client data, still the same. Any thoughts on how to solve this?
#2671 [14:03] <dopeghoti> ?? win/profile
#2672 [14:03] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2673 [14:03] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2674 [14:05] <Vandborg> Make a new user? So I should buy a new game ?
#2675 [14:05] <Vandborg> Or then i'm not sure what you saying..
#2676 [14:06] <dopeghoti> Yes, make a new Windows user on the computer itself
#2677 [14:06] <Vandborg> ooh
#2678 [14:06] <Vandborg> I'll try that
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#2680 [14:08] <Kite_> I can't seem to log out of my account on the website.
#2681 [14:09] <dopeghoti> clear browser cookies
#2682 [14:12] <Kite_> Thank you.
#2683 [14:12] <BurnZeZ> Rofl
#2684 [14:12] <BurnZeZ> I can't get MineOS to eject the CD>
#2685 [14:12] <BurnZeZ> Opening up computer case and removing power to CD drive.
#2686 [14:12] <BurnZeZ> :D
#2687 [14:12] <Kite_> Also, are there any known issues with credit card authentication process?
#2688 [14:14] <Vandborg> dopeghoti, alright tried that, still the same problem
#2689 [14:15] <dopeghoti> ??> Vandborg win/reinst
#2690 [14:15] <VoxelHead> Vandborg: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2691 [14:15] <VoxelHead> Vandborg: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2692 [14:16] <dopeghoti> Also, when it fails to work, exactly what does happen?
#2693 [14:16] <Vandborg> VoxelHead, Tried that already
#2694 [14:16] <Vandborg> Well she can login, and I can se her character, but on her screen she is just falling
#2695 [14:17] <dopeghoti> Is she running ZoneAlarm or some other firewall?
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#2697 [14:17] <Vandborg> Could windows firewall be a problem?
#2698 [14:17] <MuumiJumala> shouldn't be firewall if she can connect
#2699 [14:17] <dopeghoti> Generally not the Windows firewall, but for example, ZoneAlarm is known to cause that exact issue
#2700 [14:17] <MuumiJumala> i think it's just laggy connection
#2701 [14:18] <Vandborg> She don't have ZoneAlarm
#2702 [14:18] <dopeghoti> Has she tried any other server?
#2703 [14:18] <Vandborg> We are one the same connection
#2704 [14:18] <Vandborg> Nope, got anyone we could test it on?
#2705 [14:18] <Vandborg> Singleplayer works btw..
#2706 [14:18] <dopeghoti> ?? smp/servers
#2707 [14:18] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#2708 [14:18] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#2709 [14:18] <MuumiJumala> i've been falling like that on some servers when there's lots of load
#2710 [14:19] <Vandborg> sql error..
#2711 [14:19] <Vandborg> It's a new world we just created today
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#2713 [14:21] <Vandborg> it's the same problem with Public-Craft.com
#2714 [14:21] <dopeghoti> Another server list: http://mcserverlist.net/
#2715 [14:22] <dopeghoti> Is the OS that's installed 32- or 64-bit? If 64-bit, is the 64-bit Java installed? The lastest version (there was a recent update)?
#2716 [14:22] <Vandborg> How can I check if it's Java 64 bit?
#2717 [14:23] <Vandborg> CLI is alright
#2718 [14:23] <dopeghoti> Vandborg: If Java is installed in "C:\Program Files (x86)\
#2719 [14:23] <dopeghoti> then it's 32-bit
#2720 [14:24] <Vandborg> alright she got 64 bit windows and 32 bit Java, should I change it to 64 bit?
#2721 [14:24] <dopeghoti> yes
#2722 [14:24] <Vandborg> Alright I'll try that then :)
#2723 [14:24] <dopeghoti> good luck!
#2724 [14:25] <dopeghoti> (remember to uninstall the 32-bit Java first!)
#2725 [14:25] <Vandborg> ofc :)
#2726 [14:28] <xales> Kealper
#2727 [14:28] <xales> play with arch yet? :)
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#2729 [14:30] <xales> dopeghoti: so, question
#2730 [14:31] <xales> I'm going to spend some time reading up on Python to work on the bot thing
#2731 [14:31] <xales> is the stuff on the Python website decent? or do you reccomend something else
#2732 [14:31] <xales> also, should I bother with 2.x or 3.x?
#2733 [14:32] * xales wonders why nobody is talking to him
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#2735 [14:33] <tiv> Hey everyone. Just thought I'd drop in and see if anyone has a clue why I can't connect from my laptop (linux) to my desktop (windows 7) in MC? The other way around works fine...
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#2737 [14:34] <dopeghoti> I'd go with 2.x code, mainly 'cause not everyone has 3 yet
#2738 [14:34] <dopeghoti> and yes, the docs on python's site are great
#2739 [14:36] <xales> ok
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#2742 [14:41] <Solovar> i'm have a problem, MC gos black screen and then crashes, after a while of playing, it happens in boht single player and and multiplayer... are there something commen thing that can be done that would fix something like this? i have tryed to clear my java cash
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#2744 [14:42] <dopeghoti> Solovar: when it crashes, do you get any error messages?
#2745 [14:43] <Vandborg> dopeghoti, I tried to find a 64 bit version on java's page, but I'm only able to find a 32 bit and the verify thingy suggest 32 bit, and i'm sure the system is 64 bit...
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#2747 [14:44] <ZenMaster> can you please tell me if MC generates a kind of "crash-log"? today, it crashed 7 times with a black screen
#2748 [14:44] <Solovar> not really, just black screen, then my windows 7 (62 bit) tells me that MC stoped working
#2749 [14:44] <ZenMaster> oha
#2750 [14:44] <Solovar> *64
#2751 [14:44] <ZenMaster> same
#2752 [14:45] <dopeghoti> ?? win/reinst
#2753 [14:45] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2754 [14:45] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2755 [14:45] <Vandborg> We also tried the browser version one page, same problem
#2756 [14:45] <dopeghoti> Vandborg: hmm, not sure why they aren't posting a 64-bit installer anymore
#2757 [14:45] <dopeghoti> that's odd
#2758 [14:45] <Vandborg> yeah
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#2760 [14:48] <Vandborg> Hmm maybe it's working now.. weird...
#2761 [14:48] <dopeghoti> yay? (:
#2762 [14:48] <Vandborg> yeah.. weird
#2763 [14:48] <Vandborg> but Yay! :D
#2764 [14:48] <Vandborg> dopeghoti, thanks for your help. You been very helpfull :)
#2765 [14:49] <dopeghoti> glad to be of service! (:
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#2767 [14:50] <Vandborg> It's been annoying me, I'm a undergraduate software engineer xD
#2768 [14:53] <tiv> hrm... so many problems with "java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: socket write error" and no trace on what causes it? I've been skimming the forums for over an hour trying to figure it out...
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#2771 [14:57] <Kushkush> hello
#2772 [14:57] <dopeghoti> morning
#2773 [14:57] <Kushkush> im just new to the game, is there any way to fight against the monsters at night
#2774 [14:57] <Kushkush> or do i just have to dig my way away from them
#2775 [14:57] <dopeghoti> You can make yourself swords, armor, and bows and arrows with which to fight back.
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#2777 [14:58] <Noobicious> And ofcourse flint and steel which will burn them , and probably something around you aswell.
#2778 [14:58] <Kushkush> hmm thanks!
#2779 [14:58] <dopeghoti> cheers
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#2782 [15:01] <ifish> Just wondering, since this is the offical minecraft IRC, is notch ever here?
#2783 [15:02] <ifish> Not that it really matters, I'm just wondering.
#2784 [15:02] <BarryCarlyon> I've never seen him.
#2785 [15:02] <ifish> I see, thanks :P
#2786 [15:02] <BarryCarlyon> Doesn't mean he doesnt tho :-p
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#2793 [15:15] <Starlight_> test
#2794 [15:16] <Starlight_> Can someone pls help me find out why some redstone torches goes disappearing..?
#2795 [15:17] <jonasm> smp or no?
#2796 [15:17] <dopeghoti> Someone else is taking them?
#2797 [15:18] <Starlight_> SMP Vanilla server..
#2798 [15:18] <Starlight_> White-listed, no one is stealing them..
#2799 [15:18] <Starlight_> They just disappear..
#2800 [15:18] <jonasm> Maybe a bug.
#2801 [15:18] <jonasm> Do they disappear right before your eyes?
#2802 [15:19] <jonasm> Or. Do you leave and then they're gone?
#2803 [15:19] <Starlight_> Is it possible that it's a hardware problem? But if it where, it should not affect the same torches over and over again..
#2804 [15:19] <dopeghoti> Terrain and inventory is server-side. that's be a really unusual hardware problem.
#2805 [15:20] <jonasm> ^
#2806 [15:20] <Starlight_> Well my friend is building a massive huge calculator.. And he crashed once, and then some torches was removed.. They where there for a long time..
#2807 [15:20] <jonasm> Maybe it's a lag problem.
#2808 [15:21] <Starlight_> No because I can see the torches after he place them..
#2809 [15:21] <jonasm> Lag works In weird ways.
#2810 [15:21] <Starlight_> The whole calculator works for a while, but sometimes some torches goes missing.. Really starnge..
#2811 [15:22] <jonasm> Hmm…
#2812 [15:24] <Kealper> mmm....downloading man-pages
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#2814 [15:24] <vegas21> hello
#2815 [15:24] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#2816 [15:24] <vegas21> i started a server, and it only stays daylight for about 5 mins
#2817 [15:24] <vegas21> whats wrong
#2818 [15:25] <dopeghoti> you started at noon?
#2819 [15:25] <dopeghoti> the day is only about ten minutes long
#2820 [15:25] <vegas21> ??
#2821 [15:25] <vegas21> its faster in multiplayer that single?
#2822 [15:25] <dopeghoti> day is 10m; night is 8m; sunrise and sunset are 90 sec
#2823 [15:25] <vegas21> is there no way to make it longer
#2824 [15:25] <dopeghoti> same as SSP
#2825 [15:25] <vegas21> humm
#2826 [15:25] <vegas21> seems faster for us
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#2828 [15:34] <Kealper> anywho....now that i'm back....i can go back to marveling at just how awesome this installer for Arch is.....either i've learned a lot about CLI linux while being in here, or this installer is amazingly easy o.o
#2829 [15:37] <Starlight_> Ok I've just gone for a walk in Ubert's calculator, and it seems some torches on a line with each other is disappearing, so it must be a bug..
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#2831 [15:39] <Fum> Help me please T_T Java will not install no matter what I do. Windows XP netbook ;_;
#2832 [15:39] <dopeghoti> what happens when you try?
#2833 [15:40] <Fum> It says it cannot uninstall the previous version and asks me to find jre1.6.0_23-c.msi
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#2835 [15:40] <dopeghoti> Have you tried going to the control panel and uninstalling any older versions there first?
#2836 [15:41] <Kealper> woh....linux's resolv.conf has some cool things in it...like letting you do "g" as an alias for "google.com" and such.... :o
#2837 [15:41] <Fum> I deleted everything with "java" in it from the registry. Used CCleaner, uninstalled java first of course. Nothing helped. My previous java version gave me a windows error application has to end and I tried reinstalling and this is what I ended with :/
#2838 [15:41] <Micki93> how do i cheak what ip my minecraft server have?
#2839 [15:41] <Kealper> by typing !myip in here
#2840 [15:41] <dopeghoti> Micki93: from the server, go to www.ipchicken.com
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#2842 [15:42] <Fum> !myip
#2843 [15:42] <dopeghoti> Fum: Have you tried going to the control panel and uninstalling any older versions there first?
#2844 [15:42] <Fum> Kealper, cool one.
#2845 [15:42] <Kealper> Fum: :P
#2846 [15:42] <dopeghoti> Fum: your litany had everything but the basics.
#2847 [15:42] <Fum> dopeghoti, yes. I did that first. There is no java thing in the contol panel left.
#2848 [15:43] <dopeghoti> (just checking:) including in add/remove programs?
#2849 [15:43] <dopeghoti> assuming so, try running the installer in Safe Mode
#2850 [15:43] <Fum> Safe Mode is by pressing F9 during windows boot?
#2851 [15:43] <dopeghoti> 5. F5.
#2852 [15:44] <Fum> Let me try that then.
#2853 [15:44] <dopeghoti> hope it works (:
#2854 [15:45] <Fum> It probably won't.
#2855 [15:45] <dopeghoti> Confidence. I like it.
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#2857 [15:45] <kdorf> 468:1910:3c06:225:d3ff:fe48:87ad PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I tried building the T Flip-Flop (designs A & B) at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits#T_Flip-Flop on an SMP server, but they seemed to not work. I checked the design about four times over. Is there a bug in SMP that keeps them from working?
#2858 [15:45] <Fum> Seems Java wants me to have the old file before it will uninstall.
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#2860 [15:46] <Micki93> got my server up but my m8s cant join it. i try the homepage got the ip but even with that ip they coulded join. any tips?
#2861 [15:47] <MuumiJumala> have you forwarded port
#2862 [15:47] <Fum> Micki93, firewall and or router?
#2863 [15:47] <Micki93> router
#2864 [15:47] <Hammerup> Well, I'm having some serious lag with SMP servers. Every single one of them. It only started after 1.3. More info: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=200244 http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=198785&p=2899408&hilit=minecraft+lag#p2899408 http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=151082 (I don't use Hamachi)
#2865 [15:48] <Hammerup> Didn't find help anywhere
#2866 [15:48] <Solovar> so, i'm back after trying deleteing the bin folder in the .minecraft folder, and i still get the black screen and then crash, after i have been playing for a bit.... what else can be done?
#2867 [15:48] <Kealper> dopeghoti: i have an issue...this appears to be using vi for a text editor...but it's not acting 100% like vi...is there a quick way to check, or get some quick in-program help for it?
#2868 [15:48] <dopeghoti> how is it not acting like vi?
#2869 [15:49] <dopeghoti> also, if it's vim, use :vimtutor for an excellent tutorial (:
#2870 [15:49] <Kealper> just gave me the option for nano, joe, or vi...i wen't with vi since that's the one i'm the most familiar with...but this is just acting strange
#2871 [15:50] <Kealper> went*
#2872 [15:50] <dopeghoti> Strange how though?
#2873 [15:50] <Kealper> but it's insert mode is....not inserting certain chars, and just acting strange
#2874 [15:50] <dopeghoti> Sounds like it's a dodgy version of vi. use pacman to install vim and you'll be a lot happier.
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#2876 [15:51] <Hammerup> Does anyone have any ideas about what made that happen?
#2877 [15:51] <Kealper> i'm not in the os yet, still installing, and it's acting hinky on grub's config >:(
#2878 [15:51] <Fum> Hammerup, seems the update is to blame.
#2879 [15:51] <Hempa> hi.. I cant join any server?! it says "logging in" for a long time then "connectin lost" "timed out"
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#2882 [15:52] <Hempa> I cant join any server?! it says "logging in" for a long time then "connectin lost" "timed out"
#2883 [15:53] <Hammerup> Yes, I know that, but what did the update do to SMP to do that?
#2884 [15:53] <Davis> Hey so I'm setting up a server on my Mac, I have it working and everything, but every time i click the .jar it comes up with this message "not enough ram, open with this command "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"" I know how to do this and its not a problem, I was simply curious if it is possible to set it up to do this automatically
#2885 [15:53] <Fum> dopeghoti, Safe Mode did not work. When I click "Next" during install I get a pop-up "The administrator has configured the system to prevent this installation." I am using the admin account.
#2886 [15:53] <Davis> that way I don't have to go in and open terminal and do that every time
#2887 [15:53] <dopeghoti> Fum: sigh. I hate windows.
#2888 [15:54] <Fum> dopeghoti, same here.
#2889 [15:54] <Hammerup> I hate windows... 7.
#2890 [15:54] <dopeghoti> Davis: write a script, and double-click that instead of the .jar directly.
#2891 [15:54] <Hempa> I love windows 7
#2892 [15:54] <Fum> Windows 7 is nice as long as nothing breaks.
#2893 [15:54] <Hammerup> XP ran a lot more stuff pretty well
#2894 [15:54] <Kush> is there a way to dig the stones faster?
#2895 [15:54] <dopeghoti> Win7 is just vista with a partial suckectomy.
#2896 [15:55] <Fum> Kush, aside from a diamond pick?
#2897 [15:55] <Hammerup> That's probably because I play a nice amount of older games
#2898 [15:55] <dopeghoti> Kush: make better picks; diamond is the fastest
#2899 [15:55] <Hempa> XP is better than Vista but not better than 7
#2900 [15:55] <Davis> I'm not all that savy with how to script on mac's I've always used visual basic (programming nubbb)
#2901 [15:55] <Kealper> definately strange....this vi is still interpreting keypresses as commands even after inside insert mode :/
#2902 [15:55] <dopeghoti> Kealper: that sounds like classic vi, which is 'one edit at a time', and home/end/etc put you back in command mode
#2903 [15:55] <Kealper> screw it...default grub settings until i can get in and use a real vi
#2904 [15:56] <Hempa> does any1 get "logging in" for a long time then "connectin lost" "timed out"?
#2905 [15:56] <Davis> yea me too
#2906 [15:56] <Kealper> dopeghoti: it might, it was just the one that was on the installer :/
#2907 [15:56] <Hempa> maby minecraft is lagging?
#2908 [15:56] <Fum> Does anyone here have the file "jre1.6.0_23-c.msi" and can send it to me? :<
#2909 [15:56] <Fum> Google didn't find it.
#2910 [15:56] <Hammerup> Aso, about my problem: I'm not sure it will be fixed, because mojang probably hadn't noticed that problem yet
#2911 [15:57] <Hammerup> few people reported that
#2912 [15:57] <Kealper> ok...default settings worked...
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#2914 [15:57] * Kealper installs real vi now >.>
#2914 [15:58] <Solovar> my MC still gos black screen and then crashes after some run time, i have tryed to delete the bin folder and clear java cash.... but it's still the same, what do i try next?
#2915 [15:59] <Hammerup> 30-40something, I guess
#2916 [15:59] <Fum> May Java burn in hell.
#2917 [15:59] <dopeghoti> ??> Solovar win/profile
#2918 [15:59] <VoxelHead> Solovar: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2919 [15:59] <VoxelHead> Solovar: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2920 [15:59] <Davis> Okay so I had a texture pack on, and it was working but i wanted to try another one, and when i clicked it MC froze up, now when I open it and log in it crashes every single time
#2921 [15:59] <dopeghoti> Davis: what OS?
#2922 [15:59] <Davis> mac
#2923 [15:59] <Davis> osx
#2924 [15:59] <dopeghoti> ??> Davis mac/reinst
#2925 [15:59] <VoxelHead> Davis: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2926 [15:59] <VoxelHead> Davis: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2927 [16:01] <Davis> nope
#2928 [16:01] <Davis> it replaced it and did the exact same thing
#2929 [16:02] <Davis> want me to PM you the error report?
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#2931 [16:03] <Davis> well
#2932 [16:03] <dopeghoti> sure
#2933 [16:03] <Davis> i deleted the textures in the folder
#2934 [16:03] <Davis> works now
#2935 [16:03] <dopeghoti> ah, brilliant
#2936 [16:03] <Davis> one of them must have had something bad in it
#2937 [16:03] <dopeghoti> must be.
#2938 [16:03] <Solovar> well, i have windows 7 64 bit ultimate, and i can log in and play MC just fine on anyohter computer, but for some reason i can only play for a short time, sometimes for a long time, befor the screen gos black and then crash
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#2940 [16:04] <Solovar> at home
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#2945 [16:19] <night98> how do i make a level on my mc server
#2946 [16:21] <Kealper> night98: a level is generated for you if one does not already exist when you start the server
#2947 [16:22] <Kealper> if you don't like that level, stop the server, delete the world folder inside your server's working directory, and then start the server again to have it generate a new world
#2948 [16:22] <night98> ahh ok
#2949 [16:23] <night98> ok how do i i add a level
#2950 [16:23] <xolotl> night98: A minecraft server can only run a single world
#2951 [16:23] <night98> oh i see
#2952 [16:24] <dopeghoti> (at a time)
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#2954 [16:24] <NotMuchofaMuse> Hey guys, I have something of a not tech based question
#2955 [16:25] <BarryCarlyon> hmm?
#2956 [16:25] <NotMuchofaMuse> I'm curious how well people can locate things in the world by sound
#2957 [16:25] <NotMuchofaMuse> I am deaf in one ear, so thus my sonic world is sort of one dimensional already
#2958 [16:26] <NotMuchofaMuse> So when I am in a cave I can tell when things are getting louder, but I have a really hard time telling which direction I should dig to find the monsters
#2959 [16:26] <xolotl> NotMuchofaMuse: You can generally tell what direction to go so long as you're not really close; it's usually a bit difficult to get the correct elevation though
#2960 [16:26] <NotMuchofaMuse> ah
#2961 [16:27] <NotMuchofaMuse> Second question, has anyone developed a mod that might give some sort of visual indication of the direction of sounds?
#2962 [16:28] <dopeghoti> NotMuchofaMuse: I think I've seen a program that watches the audio output levels and gives visual indications of right and left volume levels saparately; that might be helpful
#2963 [16:28] <NotMuchofaMuse> Oh yes! That would be great, and not minecraft based
#2964 [16:28] <NotMuchofaMuse> I didn't even think of that
#2965 [16:30] <night98> how can i get users to join my mc server
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#2967 [16:30] <dopeghoti> night98: ask them?
#2968 [16:30] <BarryCarlyon> night98: thats like asking how do you get people to buy your product.
#2969 [16:30] <night98> ok
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#2972 [16:32] <night98> is there any way to add like anamals to mc server
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#2974 [16:33] <xolotl> night98: If you want more than pigs/sheep/cows/chickens (plus the hostile mobs) you would need a mod
#2975 [16:34] <xolotl> (also squid)
#2976 [16:34] <night98> how do i make a mod
#2977 [16:34] <xolotl> night98: If you have to ask, you don't.
#2978 [16:34] <night98> oh
#2979 [16:34] <xolotl> night98: Check the forums or #bukkit if you're interested in finding some pre-made ones
#2980 [16:34] <night98> ok
#2981 [16:35] <JS2601> I have a problem with paying minecraft by master card credit card and i am sure that i typed in everything correctly
#2982 [16:35] <dopeghoti> "How do I make a surprisingly popular, award-winning game that sells so well it slashdots its own site?
#2983 [16:35] <dopeghoti> "
#2984 [16:35] <dopeghoti> JS2601: is it a prepaid or gift card?
#2985 [16:36] <JS2601> prepaid but i tried it with a normal cred card too
#2986 [16:36] <dopeghoti> Prepaid cards generally won't work
#2987 [16:36] <dopeghoti> ?? prepaid
#2988 [16:36] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#2989 [16:36] <dopeghoti> As for the other card, call its bank and make sure it's not blocking international transactions.
#2990 [16:38] <JS2601> my parents have also used this card in the us and there it had worked
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#2992 [16:39] <JS2601> the site says transaction error ... Message from server: authentication denied
#2993 [16:41] <dopeghoti> Again, it sounds like the transaction will have to A> be approved in advance by the bank, or b> just done through PayPal
#2994 [16:43] <JS2601> after typing in my card number and so on i am sent to the page of my bank for my card password and after that going back to the minecraft site with this loading bar
#2995 [16:44] <vegas21> will mcedit work in a multiplayer loby?
#2996 [16:44] <vegas21> lobby?
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#2998 [16:45] <xales> vegas21: lobby?
#2999 [16:45] <vegas21> will it work in my game
#3000 [16:45] <vegas21> i have a multiplayer game running, can I use the map editor in multiplayer
#3001 [16:46] <xales> you can use the map editor on a multiplayer world, yes
#3002 [16:46] <xales> but not while it is running
#3003 [16:46] <vegas21> ok
#3004 [16:46] <vegas21> so how would that work
#3005 [16:46] <xales> you would just open the map in the map editor
#3006 [16:46] <xales> just like a singleplayer world
#3007 [16:49] <Kealper> gah...i forgot how ugly X was without something like gnome making it pretty
#3008 [16:49] <dopeghoti> you can make it pretties but running terminator and maximizing it
#3009 [16:50] <JS2601> dopeghoti as you can see my bank approved that transaction if i understand this procedure right
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#3011 [16:50] <dopeghoti> JS2601: if you're still having trouble and don't want to call your bank, jsut go through PayPal
#3012 [16:51] <JS2601> thats a little problem for me because i am not 18 yet
#3013 [16:52] <xales> you don't need to be 18
#3014 [16:52] <xales> you need to be 18 to make an account, but you don't need to make an account just to make a purchase
#3015 [16:52] * xales brb
#3015 [16:52] <JS2601> at paypal sure?
#3016 [16:52] <dopeghoti> At paypal, sure.
#3017 [16:52] <JS2601> how?
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#3021 [16:56] <XaeroA> Evening
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#3023 [16:56] <dopeghoti> norning
#3024 [16:56] <Aiphyth> Hellothere
#3025 [16:57] <Aiphyth> Are there any server pro's in here that could attempt to help me with something?
#3026 [16:57] <Aiphyth> pros*
#3027 [16:57] <dopeghoti> ?? ask
#3028 [16:57] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3029 [16:58] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#3031 [16:59] <Aiphyth> I was able to successfully set up my own server that I intend to use just over my LAN. I am able to connect as are my friends, but for some odd reason, any time I attempt to mine something it disappears, then reappears and no ore/dirt/anything is produced
#3032 [16:59] <XaeroA> I keep falling through the floor when connecting to my local MP server i'm trying to run
#3033 [16:59] <XaeroA> Aiphyth you may be too close to spawn
#3034 [16:59] <XaeroA> it does that sometimes
#3035 [17:00] <Aiphyth> So there is a radius around the spawnpoint that disallows world modification?
#3036 [17:00] <dopeghoti> ??> Aiphyth smp/opyourself
#3037 [17:00] <VoxelHead> Aiphyth: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#3038 [17:00] <VoxelHead> Aiphyth: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#3039 [17:00] <dopeghoti> XaeroA: some firewalls cause that behaviour- are you running any?
#3040 [17:00] <Aiphyth> ok ill try that thanks. Also: Does that mean I will have to op everyone that connects in order for them to be able to play?>
#3041 [17:00] <XaeroA> I don't think I am, I have Avast but that's it
#3042 [17:01] <dopeghoti> Aiphyth: no, it's just near the spawn point that only ops can build
#3043 [17:01] <XaeroA> also Server app is on same pc I'm trying to play on and connecting through 127,0,0,1
#3044 [17:01] <XaeroA> brb
#3045 [17:01] <Aiphyth> ok sweet Ill try that and let you know if it was the problem
#3046 [17:01] <dopeghoti> XaeroA: ah, that might be a problem. How much RAM has this comptuer got
#3047 [17:01] <XaeroA> 4GB
#3048 [17:02] <dopeghoti> XaeroA: and what sort of CPU? And OS?
#3049 [17:02] <XaeroA> OS Is Windows 7 64Bit Ulti
#3050 [17:03] <XaeroA> CPU AMD Athlon X2 5000+
#3051 [17:03] <XaeroA> 2.6 GHz Dual Core, 64bit
#3052 [17:03] <Aiphyth> That fixed it thank you so much that was beginning to really give me a headache lol
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#3054 [17:04] <Aiphyth> Just out of curiosity, is that a bug or a security feature of some kind?
#3055 [17:05] <XaeroA> ah right, I got in the server and didn't fall to a horrific death as there's some land now (Disabled firewall) however the world was only spawning certain chunks
#3056 [17:05] <Aiphyth> ttyl
#3057 [17:05] <XaeroA> and then I got DC'd (Internal exception: java.io.IOException: mark/reset not supported)
#3058 [17:09] <xales> XaeroA: that sounds like it might be a NIC problem
#3059 [17:09] <XaeroA> Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#3060 [17:09] <XaeroA> NIC?
#3061 [17:09] <dopeghoti> ?? normal
#3062 [17:09] <VoxelHead> normal: That message is perfectly normal, happens all the time, and can safely be ignored.
#3063 [17:09] <XaeroA> that's from server log btw
#3064 [17:09] <dopeghoti> indeed.
#3065 [17:10] <xales> ??~ normal|That message is perfectly normal, and happens all the time. However, if the console is spamming it or it occurs very frequently, then it is indicating that the machine is not powerful enough to run the server.
#3066 [17:10] <xales> <.<
#3067 [17:11] <xales> XaeroA: the NIC is the network interface card - if you are falling forever and you do not have a firewall running, that is a likely cause
#3068 [17:11] <xales> (also, if you are running it on wifi, that could cause it too)
#3069 [17:12] <XaeroA> Wired into the wall
#3070 [17:12] <XaeroA> ah right
#3071 [17:12] <XaeroA> I have a PCI Network card that isn't plugged in atm
#3072 [17:12] <xales> do you know how to open Device Manager?
#3073 [17:12] <XaeroA> but i'm using the motherboard
#3074 [17:12] <XaeroA> yes I do
#3075 [17:12] <XaeroA> got it up
#3076 [17:13] <xales> ok, open it, under Network Adapters, what model is the NIC?
#3077 [17:13] <XaeroA> NVidida nforce Network Adapter
#3078 [17:13] <xales> hmm, that shouldn't be an issue then
#3079 [17:13] <XaeroA> nforce Networking Controller even
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#3081 [17:13] <xales> are you sure you aren't running a firewall, particularly ZoneAlarm?
#3082 [17:14] <XaeroA> driver version 1.0.1.200, why do I feel that could use an update
#3083 [17:14] <XaeroA> definetely
#3084 [17:14] <XaeroA> only thing I had was Avast and Windows firewall
#3085 [17:14] <XaeroA> turned off W Firewall
#3086 [17:14] <xales> are you launching the server using the .exe?
#3087 [17:14] <XaeroA> yep
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#3089 [17:15] <BarryCarlyon> hmm something changed in the cart physics in the last beta and killed my cart stations :-(
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#3091 [17:15] <xales> hm
#3092 [17:15] <xales> I just looked up that error and it was totally not what I thought it would be :o
#3093 [17:16] <XaeroA> ah right
#3094 [17:16] <XaeroA> what is it then?
#3095 [17:16] <TheNytangel> can you send people messages on minecraft.net?
#3096 [17:16] <XaeroA> I did copy the world over from SP because I thought server was having problems creating a world
#3097 [17:16] <xales> for some reason Java is trying to use mark() and reset() on an input stream (probably the network one) that doesn't support them
#3098 [17:16] <xales> TheNytangel: no
#3099 [17:16] <TheNytangel> :(
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#3101 [17:17] <Kealper[Arch]> :o
#3102 [17:17] <xales> XaeroA: try copying the .exe file to a new folder, on your desktop, with just it there
#3103 [17:17] <xales> hi Kealper[Arch], having fun with Arch? :P
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#3105 [17:17] <Kealper[Arch]> it was meh setting up....a lot easier than i thought, but that version of vi it comes with makes me rage
#3106 [17:17] <XaeroA> ah right
#3107 [17:18] <xales> vi != vim
#3108 [17:18] <XaeroA> brb
#3109 [17:18] <Kealper[Arch]> yeah, i should install vim
#3110 [17:18] <dopeghoti> xales: I went over that (:
#3111 [17:18] <xales> also, how nice that Arch has the latest version of irssi in pacman >_>
#3112 [17:18] <xales> unlike a certain cent..os
#3113 [17:18] <xales> 17:17:42 [espernet] CTCP VERSION reply from Kealper[Arch]: irssi v0.8.15 - running on Linux x86_64
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#3115 [17:18] <xales> :)
#3116 [17:19] <Kealper[Arch]> yeah, i was like wow...amazing, that is the absolute latest thing right in the repo lol
#3117 [17:19] <xales> everything is (almost always) right from the upstream
#3118 [17:19] <xales> they don't patch anything
#3119 [17:19] <xales> so they can release it right away
#3120 [17:19] <Kealper[Arch]> so...how'd you get that cool system stats thing for Fluxbox?
#3121 [17:20] <XaeroA> nope same problem
#3122 [17:21] <xales> Kealper[Arch]: it's not for fluxbox
#3123 [17:21] <xales> it'll work on any WM
#3124 [17:21] <xales> it's called Conky
#3125 [17:21] <Kealper[Arch]> O.o
#3126 [17:21] <xales> XaeroA: hmm
#3127 [17:22] <xales> XaeroA: try this
#3128 [17:22] <Kealper[Arch]> woh, it's like...a part of my desktop
#3129 [17:22] <xales> Kealper[Arch]: yup. now configure it :P
#3130 [17:23] <xales> XaeroA: what version of Windows are you running?
#3131 [17:23] <XaeroA> 64 Bit Windows
#3132 [17:23] <XaeroA> 7
#3133 [17:23] <XaeroA> Up to date and everything as of yesterday
#3134 [17:23] <XaeroA> ultimate if that helps
#3135 [17:24] <xales> ok, open Command Prompt (win+r -> "cmd" -> enter)
#3136 [17:24] <xales> and type "java -version" and hit enter
#3137 [17:24] <xales> it should say java version "1.6.0_23"
#3138 [17:24] <xales> on the first line
#3139 [17:25] <dopeghoti> didn't _24 come out last week?
#3140 [17:26] <xales> hasn't prompted me to update
#3141 [17:26] <xales> so it has
#3142 [17:27] <Kealper[Arch]> arch + fluxbox is like...super light on resources...lol
#3143 [17:28] <xales> Kealper[Arch]: linux in general is light on resources
#3144 [17:28] <xales> :P
#3145 [17:28] * xales pokes Xerati
#3145 [17:28] <xales> err
#3146 [17:28] <xales> rather
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#3148 [17:28] <Kealper[Arch]> well i mean compared to the stuff i've been using like...Mint...lol
#3149 [17:28] <xales> yeah well, given what you read, hardly surprising
#3150 [17:28] <xales> :P
#3151 [17:28] <Kealper[Arch]> heck, i think Mint is like 512MB minimum ram
#3152 [17:28] <XaeroA> yeah man I be here
#3153 [17:28] <xales> XaeroA: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3154 [17:28] <xales> ^run that
#3155 [17:28] <xales> have it check version and whatever
#3156 [17:29] <xales> Kealper[Arch]: Arch bare minimum is 64MB
#3157 [17:29] <XaeroA> Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 24).
#3158 [17:29] <XaeroA> brb gotta wash up bowl in sink
#3159 [17:29] <Kealper[Arch]> :o
#3160 [17:29] <XaeroA> 2 seconds
#3161 [17:29] <dopeghoti> time's up
#3162 [17:29] <Kealper[Arch]> lol
#3163 [17:30] <xales> looks weird to not have green @ next to your name
#3164 [17:30] <Kealper[Arch]> meh, already got Kealper on my other monitor
#3165 [17:30] <Shadow386> I got a blue one
#3166 [17:30] <xales> Shadow386: :<
#3167 [17:30] <Kealper[Arch]> yeah, i've got my modes as light blue lol
#3168 [17:30] <xales> ._.
#3169 [17:30] <M> ._.
#3170 [17:31] <luciddream> Does anyone have any clue why my server which has been running great for a couple weeks with ~20 people would start lagging every minute or so? It seems that it will run fine for a little while and then the CPU will spike to like 200% usage and give me those Warning: server can't keep up messages before settling back down. Its not just when players log in or out either.
#3171 [17:31] <xales> Shadow386: what's happening with the other servers?
#3172 [17:31] <xales> luciddream: did this start with the 1.3 update?
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#3174 [17:32] <Shadow386> xales they're going as planned for the time being
#3175 [17:32] <xales> Shadow386: any idea when you will have them up?
#3176 [17:32] <luciddream> It started middle of last night
#3177 [17:32] <Shadow386> within the week once hMod is fully updated
#3178 [17:32] <luciddream> I'd been running 1.3 since it came out
#3179 [17:32] <Kealper[Arch]> hMod :<
#3180 [17:32] <xales> luciddream: do you have any mods on the server?
#3181 [17:33] <luciddream> I was running bukkit with some custom mods at the time, but its still doing it on 100% vanilla
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#3183 [17:33] <xales> luciddream: is this on your desktop/workstation computer?
#3184 [17:34] <luciddream> No, its a vps but its got a quad core 3ghz processor and 2 gigs of ram
#3185 [17:34] <XaeroA> back
#3186 [17:34] <luciddream> Its definitely not network lag either, because the console is showing the can't keep up message when it lags
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#3188 [17:35] <xales> luciddream: is there anything else running on the VPS?
#3189 [17:35] <xales> Kealper[Arch], dopeghoti: http://scenes.at/mchelp1 :3
#3190 [17:35] <Shadow386> I know what it is
#3191 [17:35] <xales> Shadow386: orly
#3192 [17:35] <Shadow386> 2 gigs is the max for 20 players
#3193 [17:35] <luciddream> nope, and when the CPU usage spikes its only java's usage that goes up
#3194 [17:35] <Shadow386> 1 gig is the max for 10 players
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#3196 [17:36] <xales> actually
#3197 [17:36] <Shadow386> once it hits the max, or is about 2 players from the max, it'll start lagging
#3198 [17:36] <Shadow386> how it is for me
#3199 [17:36] <xales> is it a Xen VPS or OpenVZ?
#3200 [17:36] <dopeghoti> xales: what.
#3201 [17:36] <Kealper> lol
#3202 [17:36] <luciddream> I'm not sure, how would I find out?
#3203 [17:36] <Kealper> that'll confuse people
#3204 [17:36] <xales> luciddream: what provider?
#3205 [17:37] <xales> dopeghoti: compare with a real one, scenes.at/helpgame
#3206 [17:37] <luciddream> Its a buddy of mine who is starting a hosting company or something
#3207 [17:37] <luciddream> He's not around so I can't ask him I guess
#3208 [17:37] <xales> luciddream: paste the output of `uname -a` here
#3209 [17:38] <Kealper> crap...that close option was not what i thought it was
#3210 [17:38] <luciddream> Linux soy 2.6.35-25-virtual #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 21 20:39:04 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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#3212 [17:38] <xales> Kealper: protip: don't...yeah
#3213 [17:38] <xales> :P
#3214 [17:38] <Kealper> lol
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#3216 [17:38] <Coll> Kealper
#3217 [17:38] <Coll> someones spamming your server with OOOs
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#3219 [17:38] <xales> luciddream: try `cat /proc/user_beancounters` - does that say "no such file or directory"?
#3220 [17:39] <Coll> my bad
#3221 [17:39] <Coll> they are D's
#3222 [17:39] <luciddream> no such file or directory, yeah
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#3224 [17:40] <Kealper> NOOOOOOOOOOO........i forgot to /save before i owned irssi
#3225 [17:40] <XaeroA> hmm, how do I run the .jar server with the extra -Xms things
#3226 [17:42] <xales> XaeroA: unless you need to do it, you might as well just use the exe. it's easier
#3227 [17:42] <xales> XaeroA: the only other thing to try is completely reinstalling Java =/
#3228 [17:42] <xales> Kealper: owned.
#3229 [17:42] <xales> though, it's not like it matters, it's in a VM :P
#3230 [17:42] <XaeroA> Ah right
#3231 [17:42] <XaeroA> what's this sun Java as well?
#3232 [17:43] <xales> Java is Sun Java
#3233 [17:43] <Kealper> i know right? i think i have found the distro i'll be using on that crappy computer i have laying around though
#3234 [17:43] <xales> Sun was recently acquired by Oracle
#3235 [17:43] <XaeroA> Ah right
#3236 [17:43] <XaeroA> that would make more sense
#3237 [17:43] <xales> Kealper: toldyou :P
#3238 [17:44] <Kealper> installing was not painful at all....just took a while since i had no idea what i was doing lol
#3239 [17:44] <Kealper> well...installing was easy, setup afterwards was what took a bit
#3240 [17:45] <xales> luciddream: talk to your friend about it, it might be the host node
#3241 [17:45] <xales> it's likely Xen, which is good
#3242 [17:45] <XaeroA> Hmm
#3243 [17:46] <XaeroA> it seems I had 2 Javas installed
#3244 [17:46] <xales> uninstall both
#3245 [17:46] <luciddream> I talked to him about it earlier, he has no clue what would cause the problem we're seeing.
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#3247 [17:46] <luciddream> hmm
#3248 [17:46] <xales> luciddream: it's possibly disk usage, especially if he made any changes to the dom0 recently
#3249 [17:47] <luciddream> Huh, ok, I'll pass that info along
#3250 [17:48] <xales> well then
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#3251 [17:48] <XaeroA> reinstalling now
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#3281 [18:01] <Kealper> i don't feel like having it flood out :/
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#3297 [18:04] <Kealper> aubot is just loving this...i can smell it >.>
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#3301 [18:05] <Diabo> can you have 1 internal and 1 external minecraft server up and running? on to different computers...
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#3303 [18:06] <Kealper> Diabo: what do you mean exactly?
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#3305 [18:06] <Diabo> 1 server for the LAN and one for the web
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#3308 [18:07] <Diabo> if that make any sense
#3309 [18:07] <Kealper> you could one one of them on a different port, i guess...but having two minecraft servers on one machine would probably tax it a bit unless it's got decent hardware
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#3312 [18:09] <Diabo> thinking about to have it on 2 different computers.. want one server for my friends to play and have fun on, and one for me and my gf to survive :P
#3313 [18:09] <xales> boom
#3314 [18:09] <xales> canis exploded
#3315 [18:09] <xales> <_<
#3316 [18:09] <aetherian> canis?
#3317 [18:09] <xales> canis
#3318 [18:09] <Kealper> Diabo: yeah, just have the server you want for just you and your girlfriend to have the whitelist enabled, and whitelist you and your girlfriend's usernames
#3319 [18:10] <Kealper> stupid canis
#3320 [18:10] <Diabo> ok
#3321 [18:10] <aetherian> oh. canis. right. I know what that is.
#3322 [18:10] <aetherian> ohh
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#3327 [18:12] <gothroach> Espernet server fun!
#3328 [18:12] <aetherian> lol
#3329 [18:12] <aetherian> different server I was on just had a netsplit. nice coincidence.
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#3332 [18:13] <xales> aetherian: it probably was not
#3333 [18:14] <xales> that was probably an Internet routing issue that could very well have caused servers on a different network to split
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#3335 [18:14] <aetherian> not sure.
#3336 [18:14] <aetherian> the server has somewhat frequent splits
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#3340 [18:22] <Mikau1> .
#3341 [18:22] <Cake> !
#3342 [18:23] <Mikau> ;
#3343 [18:23] <xales> /
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#3348 [18:26] <aetherian> ~
#3349 [18:26] <ferdinand> hello...
#3350 [18:26] <ferdinand> minecrafters
#3351 [18:26] <aetherian> hello, ferdinands
#3352 [18:27] <ferdinand> heheheh greetings
#3353 [18:27] <ferdinand> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7346128/MinecraftSkin.png can anybody tell me which skin this is?
#3354 [18:27] <ferdinand> I mean texturepack....
#3355 [18:27] <aetherian> why don't you ask the guy
#3356 [18:27] <aetherian> this is not a place for third party anythings
#3357 [18:27] <ferdinand> chat is moderator only
#3358 [18:27] <ferdinand> oh I didnt know
#3359 [18:28] <aetherian> and why is a roblox guy raping another roblox guy on the top...
#3360 [18:28] <ferdinand> should I go to mcchatter?
#3361 [18:28] <ferdinand> hell if I know :p......
#3362 [18:28] <Cake> no
#3363 [18:28] <Cake> Nothing in #mcchatter
#3364 [18:28] <aetherian> except me
#3365 [18:28] <aetherian> lots and lots of me
#3366 [18:28] <gothroach> ferdinand: Maybe try #risucraft ?
#3367 [18:28] <gothroach> It's mod support, but they may help with that.
#3368 [18:29] <ferdinand> cool, thanks
#3369 [18:29] <ferdinand> I've always wanted a skin like that since I installed mc
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#3372 [18:31] <ferdinand> is general game stuffs ok here? I've always wondered how you know at which height each ore is generated
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#3374 [18:32] <dopeghoti> ferdinand: http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2010/09/Mining-levels-in-minecraft.png
#3375 [18:33] <Forlornbloom> So has anyone gotten the "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated" error and managed to fix it?
#3376 [18:33] <spimly> Anyone know a chat mod that allows having chat in a separate window?
#3377 [18:33] <spimly> Forlornbloom: You need OpenGL drivers
#3378 [18:33] <Forlornbloom> What does that mean?
#3379 [18:33] <ferdinand> niiiice, thx dope
#3380 [18:33] <Forlornbloom> I am not very tech savy
#3381 [18:33] <spimly> You has a graphics card?
#3382 [18:33] <Forlornbloom> I think
#3383 [18:34] <Forlornbloom> Like I said, not very tech savy
#3384 [18:34] <Forlornbloom> *savvy
#3385 [18:34] <dopeghoti> Forlornbloom: check your GPU drivers
#3386 [18:34] <spimly> What kind of computer do you have?
#3387 [18:35] <Forlornbloom> A Dell, that's the best information
#3388 [18:35] <Forlornbloom> That can provide
#3389 [18:36] <ferdinand> ooooooooh this channel is for technical stuff too?
#3390 [18:37] <dopeghoti> that's the bulk of #MineCraftHelp, yes
#3391 [18:37] <Cake> Forlornbloom: Are you on a laptop or a desktop computer?
#3392 [18:37] <Forlornbloom> Desktop
#3393 [18:37] <Cake> ferdinand: Everything "Minecaft"
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#3395 [18:38] <Cake> Usually it happens with laptops with primitive graphics hardware
#3396 [18:38] <ferdinand> I cant start the minecraft.exe, by extension multiplayer and WoM.....I get that "accelerated pixel" error...and I installed the graphics dirver for my laptop (Hp530) but it still wont work
#3397 [18:38] <Forlornbloom> I think my mom stole this from her office...soooo....
#3398 [18:38] <dopeghoti> ferdinand: what video card has it got?
#3399 [18:38] <spimly> Windows Update won't usually install the best driver
#3400 [18:39] <ferdinand> the original hp one
#3401 [18:39] <ferdinand> I dont know exactly but I can look it up. I updated the drivers at hp
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#3403 [18:39] <spimly> Wait, it's a dell and it has an hp video card?
#3404 [18:40] <ferdinand> um no it's not a dell that was someone else :p
#3405 [18:40] <dopeghoti> Magical half-breeds. Mayve there's also a centaur in the back yard.
#3406 [18:40] <ferdinand> it's an hp, hp530
#3407 [18:40] <spimly> oh whoops
#3408 [18:40] <ferdinand> teehee
#3409 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> ?? dxdiag
#3410 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#3411 [18:41] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3412 [18:41] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3413 [18:41] <aetherian> fail...
#3414 [18:41] <ferdinand> ok, it's doing that
#3415 [18:42] <aetherian> hey, if there's no mac/lin dxdiag, why have the command be win/dxdiag? it would be easier to acces as just dxdiag
#3416 [18:42] <dopeghoti> aetherian: seeing 'fail' after every single typo or mistake is neither helpful nor amusing. I've talked to you about this before. Please knock it off.
#3417 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Meh
#3418 [18:42] <Forlornbloom> I was the one with the Dell
#3419 [18:42] <dopeghoti> aetherian: because it's specific to Windows.
#3420 [18:42] <aetherian> dopeghoti: and what about what I just said?
#3421 [18:42] <aetherian> exactly, dope.
#3422 [18:42] <aetherian> if it's specific to windows, no need to define that.
#3423 [18:43] <mica_moca> anyone know if c10t has been updated for 1.3_0 beta?
#3424 [18:43] <dopeghoti> mica_moca: not that I'm aware of.
#3425 [18:43] <spimly> mica_moca: You know thats not the current version anymore, right?
#3426 [18:43] <mica_moca> cheers dopeghoti, would you know of any map generators for linux that have been?
#3427 [18:43] <dopeghoti> mica_moca: mcmap
#3428 [18:43] <ferdinand> http://pastebin.com/NBHunktT <----am I a good boy? :p
#3429 [18:43] <mica_moca> cheers ;)
#3430 [18:44] <dopeghoti> spimly: er, that? Last I new, 1.3_0 was the current server revision.
#3431 [18:44] <nevercast> dopeghoti, Ever used mine carts?
#3432 [18:44] <nevercast> aetherian, have you used mine carts?
#3433 [18:44] <dopeghoti> nevercast: have you not seen the light rail skyway on my server? (:
#3434 [18:45] <nevercast> dopeghoti, No lol.. So how do I make them go long distances in a straight line? Without having a massive run up?
#3435 [18:45] <aetherian> no, I've just played minecraft for... how long now? and have yet to use a minecart... of course I've used them!
#3436 [18:45] <dopeghoti> nevercast: boosters.
#3437 [18:45] <nevercast> dopeghoti, How do you make them?
#3438 [18:46] * ferdinand believes in voxelhead
#3438 [18:46] <aetherian> nevercast: I think there's a page on the wiki
#3439 [18:46] <aetherian> and too many tutorials on forum/youtube.etc
#3440 [18:46] <Cake> I haven't used minecarts
#3441 [18:47] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3442 [18:47] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#3443 [18:47] <Cake> I'm more of a 'theory' guy though
#3444 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Let's see...
#3445 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> HP drivers for the laptop are here ferdinand
#3446 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=3375995&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3375953&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093
#3447 [18:48] * VoxelHead believes in ferdinand!
#3447 [18:48] <ferdinand> hahaha
#3448 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> You want Driver - Graphics marked Intel 945GM/GME Video Driver for Microsoft Windows XP
#3449 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Dated 8 Oct 2007
#3450 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> From your dxdiag, you're using Driver Date/Size: 8/8/2007
#3451 [18:49] <ferdinand> really?
#3452 [18:49] <ferdinand> I guess I downloaded an old version....I went to that exact page
#3453 [18:51] <TheNytangel> well that sucked
#3454 [18:51] <ferdinand> hahah I feel silly now
#3455 [18:51] <TheNytangel> i just started playing in multiplayer and my minecraft just closed
#3456 [18:52] <mica_moca> dopeghoti: ah, that works lovely cheers agin
#3457 [18:52] <dopeghoti> my pleasure. That'll be €8.
#3458 [18:52] <mica_moca> haha
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#3460 [18:53] <dopeghoti> (hey, it's worked once before (: )
#3461 [18:56] <TheNytangel> i miss being highlighted in the middle of what im doing..
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#3467 [19:04] <ferdinand> awright voxel head I'mma reeboot I hope this fixes it...thx man
#3468 [19:04] <FunkyDan> So I just got the game, and I'm loving it a lot, but I'm getting black screnes. I was digging a cave and I got a black screen, logged back on and I kept getting hit by nothing and died. Why is that?
#3469 [19:04] <Kealper> lol
#3470 [19:05] <Kealper> ferdinand: voxel is a bot :P
#3471 [19:05] <ferdinand> no way
#3472 [19:05] <Kealper> indeed
#3473 [19:05] <VoxelHead> way.
#3474 [19:05] <Kealper> just a very intelligent bot :o
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#3476 [19:05] <ferdinand> yea ok
#3477 [19:05] * VoxelHead displays its Mensa badge.
#3477 [19:05] <ferdinand> and I'm herobrine
#3478 [19:06] <Kealper> VoxelHead: asdf
#3479 [19:06] <VoxelHead> Kealper, I am a bot.
#3480 [19:06] <ferdinand> k thx to greyvulpine too and all you super AIs around here...
#3481 [19:06] <ferdinand> brb
#3482 [19:08] <Cake> VoxelHead: Are you under the influence?
#3483 [19:08] <VoxelHead> Cake, I am a bot.
#3484 [19:08] <Cake> The influence of.. DOPE?
#3485 [19:08] <Cake> (ghoti)
#3486 [19:08] <VoxelHead> What? Who told you?! I mean, er, heh. Good one.
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#3488 [19:11] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
#3489 [19:12] <dopeghoti> Kealper: that's why DCC chatting to VoxelHead is so nice. irssi tabcompltes channel names too
#3490 [19:13] <Kealper> aubot considers any message it gets in query starting with > as a message that it should forward to the channel/user that follows
#3491 [19:13] <Kealper> so sending a query with >#minecrafthelp Hello World! would say in here the obvious
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#3493 [19:13] <nawmataronyu> Hello?
#3494 [19:14] <Kealper> problem is that because it starts with > you can't tab complete the channel name :/
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#3496 [19:14] <Kealper> ello
#3497 [19:14] <dopeghoti> #-tab-esc-B->-end
#3498 [19:14] <Kealper> meh
#3499 [19:14] <Kealper> although i should just redo it so it's > #channel message to send
#3500 [19:16] <nawmataronyu> I just set up a Minecraft Server Using Hamachi and i Can connect just fine, bt my friend cant connect to the Game, I keep on getting the error in the Minecraft_server.jar "[INFO] /{IP}:54710 lost connection" and The 54710 Port changes constantly when he tries to connect?
#3501 [19:16] <dopeghoti> ??> nawmataronyu fubar/hamaci
#3502 [19:16] <dopeghoti> ??> nawmataronyu fubar/hamachi
#3503 [19:16] <VoxelHead> nawmataronyu: (fubar/hamachi) The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#3504 [19:16] <VoxelHead> nawmataronyu: (fubar/hamachi) It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#3505 [19:17] <nawmataronyu> so what should i use?
#3506 [19:17] <dopeghoti> port forwarding
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#3508 [19:18] <nevercast> dopeghoti, is there a way to get multiple tracks to join into one?
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#3510 [19:18] <nevercast> dopeghoti, So I can have like a station that you can jump into and it drops you on the main system?
#3511 [19:18] <dopeghoti> nevercast: there are several ways to do that. Junctions, sbusing the south/west rule, or indy drops
#3512 [19:19] <nevercast> dopeghoti, indy drops?
#3513 [19:19] <nevercast> dopeghoti, and what IS the south/west rule?
#3514 [19:19] <Kealper> !unload mod_telnet
#3515 [19:19] <dopeghoti> An Indy Drop is dropping from one track onto the downslope of another (à la Indiana Jones; hence the name)
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#3517 [19:20] <dopeghoti> The S/W Rule is simply this: a cart coming up the leg of a T intersection will always turn south or west
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#3519 [19:22] <nevercast> dopeghoti, oh :)
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#3521 [19:23] <FunkyDan> How do you stop the black screen? Is there a fix?
#3522 [19:23] <Kealper> depends what causes it
#3523 [19:23] <dopeghoti> FunkyDan: there are several. What have you tried so far?
#3524 [19:24] <FunkyDan> Well nothing I looked online but I didn't see much
#3525 [19:24] <dopeghoti> ?? win/reinst
#3526 [19:24] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3527 [19:24] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3528 [19:24] <GLaDOS> VoxelHead helb
#3529 [19:24] <nawmataronyu> I Dc'D So i got my port forwarding for my IP and the Port 25565 Do i change my Server Settings IP to my IP Adress?
#3530 [19:24] <GLaDOS> VoxelHead: helb me
#3531 [19:24] <VoxelHead> GLaDOS, I am a bot.
#3532 [19:24] <GLaDOS> VoxelHead: hellllllb
#3533 [19:24] <VoxelHead> GLaDOS, I am a bot.
#3534 [19:24] <GLaDOS> VoxelHead: helllllllllb meeeeeeeeee
#3535 [19:24] <VoxelHead> GLaDOS, I am a bot.
#3536 [19:25] <Kealper> ??> GLaDOS irc/bots
#3537 [19:25] <VoxelHead> GLaDOS: (irc/bots) The bots in this channel are meant to be used for assisting users in need of help
#3538 [19:25] <VoxelHead> GLaDOS: (irc/bots) Abuse of the bots will have you removed from the channel. If you aren't using the bot for it's intended purpose, you ARE abusing it
#3539 [19:25] <GLaDOS> VoxelHead: pls heb
#3540 [19:25] <VoxelHead> GLaDOS, I am a bot.
#3541 [19:25] <dopeghoti> Is that your way of asking for flood control of that function?
#3542 [19:25] <GLaDOS> yesplz
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#3545 [19:26] <Ferdinand> Hay guys....dint work....I'm thinking I dled the wrong one again but I cant really read that dxdiag log
#3546 [19:26] <dopeghoti> GLaDOS: done; it's cumulative with other commands now.
#3547 [19:27] <GLaDOS> ok
#3548 [19:27] <GLaDOS> wait what
#3549 [19:27] <GLaDOS> im an op damit, unignore me
#3550 [19:27] <GLaDOS> /last year in 3 minutes
#3551 [19:27] <Ferdinand> heh
#3552 [19:27] <Kealper> huh?
#3553 [19:28] <Ferdinand> some year
#3554 [19:29] <xales> dopeghoti: is there some way I can get on VoxelHead's telnet without you having to open it to the rest of the world? I hate DCC
#3555 [19:29] <Kealper> whitelist?
#3556 [19:30] <dopeghoti> xales: Once I offloads VoxelHead to my VPS, sure
#3557 [19:30] <xales> ok
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#3559 [19:30] <Ferdinand> halp? =(
#3560 [19:30] <Kealper> hmm?
#3561 [19:30] <dopeghoti> ?? ask
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#3563 [19:30] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3564 [19:30] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3565 [19:30] <Ferdinand> ok
#3566 [19:31] <Ferdinand> I was just here so....that's why I didnt specify
#3567 [19:31] <Ferdinand> I get the accelerated pixel error
#3568 [19:31] <nawmataronyu> so with creating my SErver I have the Programs And know how to set them up How Do I do the Port Forwarding?
#3569 [19:31] <Ferdinand> just reinstalled the graphics driver from a link greyvulpine reccomended
#3570 [19:31] <dopeghoti> Ferdinand: and?
#3571 [19:31] <Ferdinand> still get the same error
#3572 [19:32] <dopeghoti> nawmataronyu: Just forward port 25565 whaever internal IP the server is running on.
#3573 [19:32] <xales> ??> Ferdinand win/dxdiag
#3574 [19:32] <VoxelHead> Ferdinand: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3575 [19:32] <VoxelHead> Ferdinand: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#3577 [19:32] <Ferdinand> http://pastebin.com/H6MJtDDk
#3578 [19:33] <xales> is that since you installed the driver?
#3579 [19:34] <Ferdinand> yep...is it still showing the same date?
#3580 [19:34] <Ferdinand> cause I'd feel pretty silly if it did
#3581 [19:35] <FunkyDan> Deleting the bin folder did not fix it. :(
#3582 [19:35] <nawmataronyu> in the server.Properties text file, what do i put in the "server-ip="?
#3583 [19:35] <dopeghoti> ??> FunkyDan win/profile
#3584 [19:35] <VoxelHead> FunkyDan: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3585 [19:35] <VoxelHead> FunkyDan: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#3587 [19:36] <FunkyDan> To be honest I doubt it would have anything to do with my character, any character I make would most likely do the same, could it be graphics options?
#3588 [19:36] <dopeghoti> ..who said anything about your character?
#3589 [19:37] <FunkyDan> oh the user profile I mean
#3590 [19:37] <nawmataronyu> ok its working, But ingame Im just falling? and repawn falling?
#3591 [19:37] <dopeghoti> nawmataronyu: Running any firewalls?
#3592 [19:38] <nawmataronyu> yes,
#3593 [19:38] <dopeghoti> ..which one(s)?
#3594 [19:38] <nawmataronyu> Kaspersky
#3595 [19:38] <dopeghoti> Try disabling it? You're behind a router anyhow
#3596 [19:40] <nawmataronyu> Looks like I fixed it, Spawned ontop of a tree though, findthat odd
#3597 [19:43] <Ferdinand> *shrug* last seed I tried I spawned on a tree too
#3598 [19:46] <nawmataronyu> Now i spawned underwater
#3599 [19:47] <Ferdinand> O.o
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#3602 [19:50] <Forlornbloom> So, I still have this (org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated) error after I tried downloading stuff, but since I'm not exactly sure what to download I got nothing...
#3603 [19:52] <clank714> CLANK OUT
#3604 [19:52] <xales> Forlornbloom: it looks like it wasn't updated correctly
#3605 [19:52] <xales> it's a laptop, correct?
#3606 [19:52] <Forlornbloom> No
#3607 [19:52] <xales> O_o
#3608 [19:52] <xales> not a laptop
#3609 [19:53] <Forlornbloom> It's a desktop that my mom may or may not have stolen from her office
#3610 [19:53] <xales> no
#3611 [19:53] <Kealper> may or may not have.....lol
#3612 [19:53] <xales> that say's its a laptop
#3613 [19:53] <xales> " System Model: HP 530 Notebook PC"
#3614 [19:53] <xales> Notebook
#3615 [19:53] <xales> = laptop
#3616 [19:53] <Ferdinand> nope that's me
#3617 [19:53] <Forlornbloom> It's most certainly a desktop
#3618 [19:54] <Ferdinand> I'm the one with the hp530
#3619 [19:54] <nawmataronyu> im having some major lag errors in game
#3620 [19:54] <Ferdinand> I got the same pixel format not accelerated problem, except mine is a laptop hp530 and the lastest driver doesnt seem to cut it...forlornbloom's is a dell is it not?
#3621 [19:54] <Forlornbloom> Ferdinand still having issues? =(
#3622 [19:54] <xales> nawmataronyu: can you describe it any better?
#3623 [19:54] <xales> Ferdinand: oh
#3624 [19:54] <BurnZeZ> Wait.
#3625 [19:54] <BurnZeZ> Integrated Graphics lag?
#3626 [19:54] <xales> I was confused because of the similar names ._.
#3627 [19:55] <Ferdinand> heheh
#3628 [19:55] <Ferdinand> np
#3629 [19:55] <xales> bleh
#3630 [19:55] <xales> Forlornbloom: can you do that?
#3631 [19:55] <xales> ??>> Forlornbloom win/dxdiag
#3632 [19:55] <nawmataronyu> um I move 20 blocks and snap back, Im being hit by a mob a mile away, I cut down a tree and no wood blocks apear
#3633 [19:55] <xales> nawmataronyu: multiplayer?
#3634 [19:55] <Forlornbloom> How would I do that?
#3635 [19:55] <nawmataronyu> yea
#3636 [19:55] <xales> Forlornbloom: the bot..should..have PMed it to you
#3637 [19:55] <xales> ??> Forlornbloom win/dxdiag
#3638 [19:55] <VoxelHead> Forlornbloom: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3639 [19:55] <VoxelHead> Forlornbloom: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3640 [19:56] <xales> nawmataronyu: do you get lag in singleplayer?
#3641 [19:56] <nawmataronyu> no
#3642 [19:56] <BurnZeZ> Problem solved.
#3643 [19:56] <xales> nawmataronyu: it's either the server or your internet connection then
#3644 [19:56] <nawmataronyu> Im hosting the server
#3645 [19:56] <BurnZeZ> O.o
#3646 [19:57] <BurnZeZ> On the same computer?
#3647 [19:57] <nawmataronyu> yea
#3648 [19:57] <BurnZeZ> Problem solved.
#3649 [19:57] <BurnZeZ> Server = Intense CPU required.
#3650 [19:57] <Kealper> nawmataronyu: system specs?
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#3652 [19:57] <BurnZeZ> Running them both at the same time is more than likely resulting in double-lag.
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#3654 [19:58] <nawmataronyu> Win7, Core i3 CPU 350 @ 2.27GHz, *.0 GBRAM, Ati Mobility Radeon HD 5470
#3655 [19:58] <Forlornbloom> http://pastebin.com/mzN74nh3
#3656 [19:58] <BurnZeZ> Need moar power.
#3657 [19:58] <nawmataronyu> 8.0GB Ram
#3658 [19:59] <jerkburger> yo guys, im playing on a mac and whenever i mine a stone block, no chunk results from the mining. whats up with that?
#3659 [19:59] <jerkburger> common problem… or?
#3660 [19:59] <BurnZeZ> jerkburger: Plugins? SMP? Singleplayer?
#3661 [19:59] <xales> jerkburger: you are using a tool, right?
#3662 [19:59] <dopeghoti> jerkburger: use a pick.
#3663 [19:59] <BurnZeZ> Rofl
#3664 [19:59] <nawmataronyu> should I host the server on my desktop and play on my Laptop then?
#3665 [19:59] <BurnZeZ> nawmataronyu: Yes.
#3666 [19:59] <jerkburger> Yeah, come on now. Im not dense.
#3667 [19:59] <BurnZeZ> That would probably work much better.
#3668 [20:00] <BurnZeZ> [19:59:07] <BurnZeZ> jerkburger: Plugins? SMP? Singleplayer?
#3669 [20:00] <mib> what do i type when i click on the muiltplayer sceen its asks for a ip
#3670 [20:00] * BurnZeZ facepalms.
#3670 [20:00] <xales> Forlornbloom: I don't think that graphics card will be able to play it
#3671 [20:00] <BurnZeZ> Which graphics card?
#3672 [20:00] <xales> mib: you find a server that you want to play on and you type the IP of it
#3673 [20:00] <jerkburger> When i bought the game just before the latest update, it worked perfectly. Since the update, no chunks will come from mined stone blocks.
#3674 [20:00] <xales> BurnZeZ: NVidia 5600 FX
#3675 [20:00] <jerkburger> and im playing single player survival
#3676 [20:00] <Forlornbloom> lol you're kidding right?
#3677 [20:00] <xales> jerkburger: you are using a pickaxe, right?
#3678 [20:00] <jerkburger> Yes.
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#3680 [20:01] <BurnZeZ> Wat?
#3681 [20:01] <xales> jerkburger: are you using any mods?
#3682 [20:01] <mib> how do i find the severs ip?
#3683 [20:01] <xales> or...just leave
#3684 [20:01] <BurnZeZ> Why wouldn't that card play Minecraft?
#3685 [20:01] <xales> mib: http://mcserverlist.net/ http://minestatus.net/
#3686 [20:01] <BurnZeZ> Known incompatibility?
#3687 [20:01] <xales> BurnZeZ: very, very old
#3688 [20:01] <xales> not supported
#3689 [20:01] <BurnZeZ> Ah.
#3690 [20:01] <Forlornbloom> I have the same problem don't I?
#3691 [20:01] <Ferdinand> heh jerkburger was being asked for a 2nd time if he used a pickaxe
#3692 [20:01] * BurnZeZ has ATI Radeon 3200HD.
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#3693 [20:02] <xales> BurnZeZ: that is much newer than that nvidia card
#3694 [20:02] <BurnZeZ> Yeah.
#3695 [20:02] <xales> Forlornbloom: I'm fairly certain it won't work on your card <.<
#3696 [20:02] <xales> it's a very, very old card
#3697 [20:02] <BurnZeZ> I like how my card is the crappiest card ever.
#3698 [20:02] <Forlornbloom> HAHAHA, Welp, time to ask for a legit computer and not some office model bull shit
#3699 [20:02] <Kealper> my server's onboard is better than that :/
#3700 [20:02] <xales> and even if it worked, with that much RAM, it would still play like garbage
#3701 [20:02] <BurnZeZ> Hmm?
#3702 [20:03] <xales> Ferdinand: yours should work...but I don't think on Windows
#3703 [20:03] <BurnZeZ> With that much ram?
#3704 [20:03] <Forlornbloom> Thanks for your help guys
#3705 [20:03] <xales> BurnZeZ: the computer only has 1GB of RAM
#3706 [20:03] <BurnZeZ> Ah.
#3707 [20:03] <Kealper> ehh
#3708 [20:03] <xales> it would be swapping right as Minecraft launched
#3709 [20:03] <BurnZeZ> I'm mixing things up.
#3710 [20:03] <BurnZeZ> I thought he said 8
#3711 [20:03] <BurnZeZ> It was the other guy.
#3712 [20:03] <Kealper> yeah....similar names ftl
#3713 [20:03] <xales> Ferdinand: The game runs...mediocrely on my laptop (which is a Mac) with that card
#3714 [20:03] <xales> (is that a word? ._.)
#3715 [20:03] <mib> what does it mean by whitlist,thread,website,pay?
#3716 [20:04] <Forlornbloom> Bye then.
#3717 [20:04] <Kealper> xales: it is now lol
#3718 [20:04] <BurnZeZ> Whitelist is a list of people with access to a multiplayer world.
#3719 [20:04] <Kealper> althought i think it would be proper to just say it runs mediocre on your laptop
#3720 [20:04] <mib> ok thread,pay and website are?
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#3722 [20:05] <BurnZeZ> mib: Where are you reading that from?
#3723 [20:05] <BurnZeZ> It's slightly ambiguous. I'm going to make assumptions.
#3724 [20:05] <mib> http://mcserverlist.net/ http://minestatus.net/
#3725 [20:05] <BurnZeZ> Ah
#3726 [20:06] <BurnZeZ> Alright.
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#3728 [20:06] <BurnZeZ> Thread means they have a forum thread.
#3729 [20:06] <BurnZeZ> Website means they have a website.
#3730 [20:07] <BurnZeZ> I have no idea about pay.
#3731 [20:07] <BurnZeZ> I didn't think you could charge money to play a Minecraft server.
#3732 [20:07] <mib> ok
#3733 [20:07] <Kealper> you could....but i doubt you'd get a lot of people
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#3735 [20:09] <Ferdinand> so you guys have no further ideas on the hp530 with the accelerated pixel format problem? http://pastebin.com/H6MJtDDk
#3736 [20:09] <petterh96> hi
#3737 [20:09] <petterh96> Hello, can somone help me and test out my new server :)? no premium needed, (ALPHA server)
#3738 [20:10] <xales> petterh96: uh, what?
#3739 [20:10] <BurnZeZ> He must be talking about from that free weekend.
#3740 [20:10] <petterh96> no
#3741 [20:10] <BurnZeZ> Hmm?
#3742 [20:10] * xales kicked petterh96 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: We don't provide support with Survival unless you own it.)
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#3744 [20:11] <petterh96> why kick?
#3745 [20:11] <petterh96> i got full version
#3746 [20:11] <xales> like I said
#3747 [20:11] <xales> provei t.
#3748 [20:11] <petterh96> sure
#3749 [20:11] <petterh96> how?
#3750 [20:11] <dopeghoti> "no premium needed"
#3751 [20:11] <xales> "ALPHA"
#3752 [20:11] <BurnZeZ> !paid petterh96
#3753 [20:11] <Cake> Alpha server is outdated
#3754 [20:11] <dopeghoti> "Theives welcome"?
#3755 [20:11] <petterh96> for other guys -.-
#3756 [20:11] <petterh96> just to test my ports
#3757 [20:11] <Cake> Nobody would even want to play Alpha
#3758 [20:11] <BurnZeZ> dopeghoti: Yes.
#3759 [20:11] <xales> right...
#3760 [20:11] <xales> because most people host Alpha servers
#3761 [20:11] <dopeghoti> Alpha is no longer supported. End of story.
#3762 [20:11] <petterh96> ok
#3763 [20:12] <petterh96> didnt know
#3764 [20:12] <xales> it's pretty obvious
#3765 [20:12] <xales> the only reason someone would play, let alone have it anymore
#3766 [20:12] <petterh96> im new
#3767 [20:12] <xales> is because they have a pirated version
#3768 [20:12] <BurnZeZ> Yes.
#3769 [20:12] <xales> "new" meaning you just downloaded Alpha from rapidshare?
#3770 [20:12] <xales> ._.
#3771 [20:12] <M> ._.
#3772 [20:12] <BurnZeZ> ._>
#3773 [20:12] <BurnZeZ> Ow my eye.
#3774 [20:12] <petterh96> no, just prepaid the beta
#3775 [20:12] <xales> then play beta?
#3776 [20:13] <xales> also, if you just bought beta
#3777 [20:13] <xales> then you wouldn't have Alpha
#3778 [20:13] <xales> which means to aquire it
#3779 [20:13] <xales> you pirated the game
#3780 [20:13] <BurnZeZ> Unless you got it from pirates. :D
#3781 [20:13] <Kealper> maybe he's just calling beta alpha?
#3782 [20:13] <petterh96> i dont know diffrente with alpha and beta xD
#3783 [20:13] <BurnZeZ> Ninja'd.
#3784 [20:13] <xales> so, even if alpha was supported, no support for you
#3785 [20:13] <petterh96> thougt it was the same
#3786 [20:13] <BurnZeZ> ...
#3787 [20:13] <xales> if you supposedly bought it, what's your username? :)
#3788 [20:13] <Kealper> you all suck at interpreting fail ._.
#3789 [20:13] <mib> where is the ip located?
#3790 [20:13] <BurnZeZ> Kealper: Yes.
#3791 [20:13] <xales> also, it is quite clear that they are different
#3792 [20:13] <xales> ._.
#3793 [20:13] <M> ._.
#3794 [20:13] <xales> mib: on the website you were linked to
#3795 [20:14] <mib> i did the site thing but still cant find the ip
#3796 [20:14] <BurnZeZ> Click on a server.
#3797 [20:14] <BurnZeZ> It's in the Quick Info on the right hand side.
#3798 [20:14] <BurnZeZ> On MCServerlist.net anyways.
#3799 [20:14] <petterh96> no help here i see -.-
#3800 [20:14] <xales> petterh96: no, really..if you bought it, what is your username? :)
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#3802 [20:14] <xales> or that
#3803 [20:14] <xales> whatever
#3804 [20:14] <BurnZeZ> lol
#3805 [20:15] <mib> lol i got it thnx
#3806 [20:15] <Kealper> did i like...miss something or are you all really that much fail?
#3807 [20:15] <xales> Kealper: running a "NO PREMIUM NEEDED" "ALPHA" "oops i didnt know there was a differnce"
#3808 [20:15] <BurnZeZ> I'm tough because I can quit IRC before you say something.
#3809 [20:15] <xales> sure sounds legit
#3810 [20:15] <Kealper> oh
#3811 [20:15] <xales> "i just want to test my ports"
#3812 [20:15] <BurnZeZ> lol
#3813 [20:15] <xales> 20:09:07 < petterh96> Hello, can somone help me and test out my new server :)? no premium needed, (ALPHA server)
#3814 [20:15] <xales> why capitalize Alpha
#3815 [20:15] <BurnZeZ> True.
#3816 [20:15] <xales> if not to specify it's not beta
#3817 [20:16] <Fum> What's the point in having random people join your server?
#3818 [20:16] <xales> and then no answer when asked his username
#3819 [20:16] <BurnZeZ> What time zone does Siiseli live in?
#3820 [20:16] <xales> so...exactly
#3821 [20:16] <aetherian> because it looks cool with a capital A on both sides?
#3822 [20:16] <xales> BurnZeZ: they should be on now
#3823 [20:16] <BurnZeZ> He's online, but I think afk.
#3824 [20:16] <BurnZeZ> Hasn't returned PM yet.
#3825 [20:17] <BurnZeZ> [19:49:28] <BurnZeZ> Yo.
#3826 [20:17] <BurnZeZ> So about half hour ago.
#3827 [20:17] <BurnZeZ> Quit Alice in Wonderland.
#3828 [20:17] <BurnZeZ> It scares me. D:
#3829 [20:18] <mib> its tell me acess denfnied
#3830 [20:18] <BurnZeZ> So I just ate an entire steak, then proceeded to eat 4 french bread pizzas, and 1/3rd gallon of milk.
#3831 [20:18] <aetherian> oh yum
#3832 [20:18] <aetherian> what kind of steak?
#3833 [20:18] <BurnZeZ> T-bone
#3834 [20:18] <Ferdinand> ah fukn windows
#3835 [20:18] <BurnZeZ> 6'1 and 147 pounds.
#3836 [20:18] <xales> mib: then try a different server
#3837 [20:18] <mib> k
#3838 [20:19] <BurnZeZ> Let the jealousy commence. *Sunglasses*
#3839 [20:19] <aetherian> suuure, BurnZeZ
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#3841 [20:19] <BurnZeZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jXmsGLjYeg
#3842 [20:19] <BurnZeZ> That's me.
#3843 [20:20] <Ferdinand> so that's that I guess try later I s'pose =/
#3844 [20:20] <Kealper> that video was kinda lame and neat at the same time....lol
#3845 [20:20] <BurnZeZ> lol
#3846 [20:21] <BurnZeZ> I'll start making videos once I have a Desktop.
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#3848 [20:21] <BurnZeZ> 4000$ computer in the making.
#3849 [20:21] <Kealper> :o
#3850 [20:21] <|System|> xales i am looking at the logs and that was hillarious
#3851 [20:21] <xales> |System|: what was?
#3852 [20:21] <xales> the alpha guy?
#3853 [20:21] <|System|> yeah
#3854 [20:21] <Kealper> are they really that good?
#3855 [20:21] <xales> derp derp derp
#3856 [20:21] * Kealper scrolls up like a boss
#3856 [20:22] <Kealper> screw it....too much scrolling....around how many hours ago was it?
#3857 [20:22] <|System|> ... How can you not notice the difference
#3858 [20:22] * BurnZeZ eats Zingers like a boss.
#3858 [20:22] <Kealper> eh?
#3859 [20:22] <|System|> <petterh96> hi
#3860 [20:22] <|System|> <petterh96> Hello, can somone help me and test out my new server :)? no premium needed, (ALPHA server)
#3861 [20:22] <|System|> bla bla bla
#3862 [20:22] <BurnZeZ> "no premium needed,"
#3863 [20:22] <|System|> it was funneh
#3864 [20:22] <Kealper> i never seen that part....that was when i was afk
#3865 [20:22] <BurnZeZ> Best part.
#3866 [20:23] <|System|> you got ZChat?
#3867 [20:23] <|System|> XChat*
#3868 [20:23] <Kealper> eew
#3869 [20:23] <Kealper> gui clients
#3870 [20:23] * BurnZeZ has mIRC. Like a boss.
#3870 [20:23] <dopeghoti> irssi über alles.
#3871 [20:23] <Kealper> ^
#3872 [20:23] <xales> ^
#3873 [20:23] <|System|> ^
#3874 [20:24] <gothroach> !check 184.82.149.10
#3875 [20:24] <xales> !check
#3876 [20:24] <xales> orly
#3877 [20:24] <BurnZeZ> What does !check do?
#3878 [20:24] <xales> BurnZeZ: writes a check to the person for $500
#3879 [20:24] <|System|> Check if the ports are open
#3880 [20:24] <BurnZeZ> :D
#3881 [20:24] <xales> Kealper has gone bankrupt a couple times now
#3882 [20:24] <Kealper> lol xales
#3883 [20:25] <dopeghoti> it's the lazyman's http://www.canyouseeme.org
#3884 [20:25] <BurnZeZ> !check 127.0.0.1
#3885 [20:25] <BurnZeZ> Crap. It's smart.
#3886 [20:25] <xales> I have no idea where the money flows from
#3887 [20:25] <xales> but Kealper keeps it coming
#3888 [20:25] <xales> >:D
#3889 [20:25] <BurnZeZ> !check localhost
#3890 [20:25] <BurnZeZ> D:
#3891 [20:25] <xales> !ignore BurnZeZ
#3892 [20:25] <dopeghoti> !check 8.8.8.8
#3893 [20:25] <BurnZeZ> lol
#3894 [20:25] <xales> :P
#3895 [20:25] <BurnZeZ> I knew that was coming.
#3896 [20:25] <mib> it keep saying java.net.socketexception: permisson denied i tryed about 5 ips what do i do?
#3897 [20:25] <xales> !unignore BurnZeZ
#3898 [20:26] <BurnZeZ> What ports does it check?
#3899 [20:26] <|System|> I want secret friday updates again... like the good old time
#3900 [20:26] <BurnZeZ> 25565?
#3901 [20:26] <|System|> I want secret friday updates again... like the good old times*
#3902 [20:26] <|System|> yep
#3903 [20:26] <xales> mib: are you at a school/work computer?
#3904 [20:26] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#3905 [20:26] <BurnZeZ> !check burnzco.ath.cx
#3906 [20:26] <|System|> Your ignored...
#3907 [20:26] <|System|> fyi
#3908 [20:26] <BurnZeZ> :O
#3909 [20:26] <BurnZeZ> [20:25:49] <@xales> !unignore BurnZeZ
#3910 [20:26] <xales> oh
#3911 [20:26] <|System|> my bad
#3912 [20:26] <mib> computer at home laptop
#3913 [20:26] <xales> wrong command
#3914 [20:26] <|System|> didnt see that
#3915 [20:26] <xales> !listen BurnZeZ
#3916 [20:26] <xales> derp
#3917 [20:26] <BurnZeZ> !check burnzco.ath.cx
#3918 [20:26] <xales> mib: do you have a firewall running on it?
#3919 [20:26] <BurnZeZ> lol
#3920 [20:27] <BurnZeZ> It still doesn't work. XD
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#3922 [20:27] <BurnZeZ> Everything I touch dies.
#3923 [20:27] <mib> i dont think so
#3924 [20:27] <Kealper> BurnZeZ: you just did it too fast after it said something in the channel
#3925 [20:28] <BurnZeZ> Oh.
#3926 [20:28] <BurnZeZ> What's the cooldown?
#3927 [20:28] <Kealper> 5 sec
#3928 [20:28] <BurnZeZ> Alright
#3929 [20:28] <BurnZeZ> !check burnzco.ath.cx
#3930 [20:28] <Kealper> and 500ms for notices
#3931 [20:28] <xales> mib: are you running it as administrator?
#3932 [20:28] <BurnZeZ> What?
#3933 [20:28] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#3934 [20:28] * BurnZeZ checks server.
#3934 [20:28] <BurnZeZ> Argh.
#3935 [20:28] <BurnZeZ> Server's not on.
#3936 [20:28] * BurnZeZ facepalm
#3936 [20:29] * BurnZeZ facepalms for missing the 's' on the last facepalm.
#3936 [20:29] <mib> one side on the computer so i guess so
#3937 [20:29] <BurnZeZ> xales: Have you tried MineOS?
#3938 [20:29] <xales> BurnZeZ: If I was going to use something like that, I would set it up myself, not use some prebuilt thing :)
#3939 [20:29] <BurnZeZ> Heh.
#3940 [20:29] <BurnZeZ> My computer doesn't like it.
#3941 [20:29] <Kealper> mineos can be dangerous if you don't have a perfectly stable system to run it on
#3942 [20:29] <BurnZeZ> Tons of errors
#3943 [20:30] <xales> mib: close minecraft, right click on it, and select "run as administrator"
#3944 [20:30] <BurnZeZ> But I think they're linux related.
#3945 [20:30] <mib> k
#3946 [20:30] <BurnZeZ> Are you a linux guru xales?
#3947 [20:30] <xales> BurnZeZ: why
#3948 [20:30] <xales> ._.
#3949 [20:30] <M> ._.
#3950 [20:30] <xales> :<
#3951 [20:30] <M> :< !
#3952 [20:30] <BurnZeZ> I can haz help? :(
#3953 [20:30] <xales> with?
#3954 [20:30] <BurnZeZ> Weirdest Linux errors ever.
#3955 [20:30] <xales> ...k
#3956 [20:30] <xales> ?? error
#3957 [20:30] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#3958 [20:30] <BurnZeZ> Input/Output errors with CD drive.
#3959 [20:30] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#3960 [20:31] <xales> your not serious
#3961 [20:31] <xales> the "sense" thing?
#3962 [20:31] <BurnZeZ> sense?
#3963 [20:31] <xales> what does the error say ._.
#3964 [20:31] <BurnZeZ> Hold on.
#3965 [20:31] <BurnZeZ> I'll take a pic.
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#3967 [20:31] <mib> it woeked but now says connection refued is that by the guy running the sever? or something?
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#3969 [20:37] <xales> mib: yes
#3970 [20:37] <xales> mib: that means the server doesnt work
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#3972 [20:38] <Anthony159> im having an issue running the multiplayer browser version
#3973 [20:38] <xales> Anthony159: what is the issue?
#3974 [20:38] <xales> Kealper: http://scenes.at/wizard
#3975 [20:39] <BurnZeZ> lol
#3976 [20:39] <BurnZeZ> "you're are a wizard"
#3977 [20:40] * dopeghoti puts on his robe and wizard hat.
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#3979 [20:40] <Anthony> sorry internet froze..but my problem is..
#3980 [20:40] <Kealper> lol dope
#3981 [20:41] <|System|> I still cant get my server running lol
#3982 [20:41] <xales> Kealper: watch video :P
#3983 [20:41] <Kealper> no, but i think i already know the video by the title
#3984 [20:41] <Kealper> i can't watch it right now, flash is being stupid :/
#3985 [20:42] <BurnZeZ> This video is the best video on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI2kGqrk3Nc
#3986 [20:42] <BurnZeZ> Watch it xales.
#3987 [20:42] <Kealper> so on that note....afk
#3988 [20:42] <Anthony> on internet explorer it comes up saying that i need to install the activex to run the applet. when i click install it comes up saying "windows has blocked this software because it can't verify the publisher"
#3989 [20:42] <Anthony> i tried everything sites said to try
#3990 [20:42] <Anthony> but it didnt work at all
#3991 [20:42] <brienza> Try using Chrome, Firefox, Opera, or anything other than IE.
#3992 [20:43] <Anthony> ill have to get chrome because it freezes my firefox for some reason...
#3993 [20:43] <BurnZeZ> "plugin-container.exe"
#3994 [20:43] <Anthony> never used to
#3995 [20:43] <BurnZeZ> That's why Firefox freezes
#3996 [20:43] <Anthony> how do i fix
#3997 [20:43] <BurnZeZ> You can disable it.
#3998 [20:43] <BurnZeZ> about:config
#3999 [20:43] <BurnZeZ> search dll
#4000 [20:44] <BurnZeZ> disable everything that comes up.
#4001 [20:44] <BurnZeZ> Turn them to false that is.
#4002 [20:44] <Anthony> ok now its time to try this again lol
#4003 [20:44] <BurnZeZ> lol
#4004 [20:45] <BurnZeZ> plugin-container is the single reason that causes most Firefox lags/crashes.
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#4006 [20:45] <Anthony159> nope...
#4007 [20:45] <BurnZeZ> D:
#4008 [20:45] <BurnZeZ> What version flash do you have?
#4009 [20:46] <Anthony159> 10
#4010 [20:46] <BurnZeZ> 10.?
#4011 [20:46] <Anthony159> i forgot :/
#4012 [20:47] <xales> Anthony159: try Chrome
#4013 [20:47] <Anthony159> ok
#4014 [20:47] <Anthony159> ive never really liked chrome EVER but ill try it
#4015 [20:47] <BurnZeZ> Chrome constantly lags/glitches for me.
#4016 [20:48] <BurnZeZ> It has a much smaller footprint though.
#4017 [20:48] <Anthony159> Version: 10.2.152.26
#4018 [20:48] <Anthony159> thats my flash
#4019 [20:49] <BurnZeZ> If you have Shockwave for Director, disable it.
#4020 [20:49] <Anthony159> i doubt i do..i just downloaded the regular one.
#4021 [20:49] <BurnZeZ> D:
#4022 [20:50] <BurnZeZ> I'm not really sure what the problem is.
#4023 [20:50] <BurnZeZ> Uhh
#4024 [20:50] <BurnZeZ> What happens when you watch Youtube?
#4025 [20:50] <Anthony159> it works perfectly
#4026 [20:50] <BurnZeZ> When do you have problems
#4027 [20:50] <BurnZeZ> ?
#4028 [20:50] <Anthony159> if i had xp still i could have fixed this by now
#4029 [20:50] <BurnZeZ> lol
#4030 [20:50] <BurnZeZ> Please don't say Vista....
#4031 [20:51] <Anthony159> i dont have problems on youtube or any other site with flash
#4032 [20:51] <Anthony159> but i have a problem with the browser version of mc
#4033 [20:51] <BurnZeZ> Argh.
#4034 [20:51] <BurnZeZ> That's java.
#4035 [20:51] <BurnZeZ> What version do you have?
#4036 [20:51] <Anthony159> jdk or jre?
#4037 [20:51] <BurnZeZ> jre
#4038 [20:52] <Anthony159> the very newest 1
#4039 [20:52] <Anthony159> so 6
#4040 [20:52] <BurnZeZ> Well.
#4041 [20:52] <dopeghoti> 6.?
#4042 [20:52] <BurnZeZ> 6, but what update version?
#4043 [20:52] <Anthony159> sec
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#4045 [20:52] <Anthony159> 24
#4046 [20:52] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#4047 [20:52] <BurnZeZ> That's new.
#4048 [20:52] <dopeghoti> ?? win/profile
#4049 [20:52] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4050 [20:52] <BurnZeZ> What happens when you play Minecraft?
#4051 [20:52] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4052 [20:53] <bugweiser> I have a question.
#4053 [20:53] <BurnZeZ> bugweiser: Shoot.
#4054 [20:53] <bugweiser> i just downloaded the minecraft game. go to log in, it updates and goes to a black screen
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#4056 [20:53] <bugweiser> what did i do wrong?
#4057 [20:53] <dopeghoti> bugweiser: try once from in-browser
#4058 [20:53] <bugweiser> k
#4059 [20:54] <Anthony159> when i play minecraft on the BROWSER ONLY it freezes my firefox and wont verify the publisher of w/e its downloading on internet explorer
#4060 [20:54] <BurnZeZ> Hmm.
#4061 [20:54] <Anthony159> but ill try to make a new acc to see
#4062 [20:54] <BurnZeZ> I recently had problems with the latest java patch.
#4063 [20:54] <BurnZeZ> I had to uninstall java.
#4064 [20:54] <BurnZeZ> Then delete the jre6 folder.
#4065 [20:54] <BurnZeZ> Then Re-install.
#4066 [20:54] <BurnZeZ> Now it's working.
#4067 [20:54] <bugweiser> thank you dopeghoti!
#4068 [20:54] <Anthony159> ill try that after i try alternate account
#4069 [20:55] <BurnZeZ> Try that if making
#4070 [20:55] <BurnZeZ> k
#4071 [20:55] <Anthony159> soo ill brb cuz ill probly freeze my firefox
#4072 [20:55] <BurnZeZ> lol
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#4074 [21:00] <Anthony159> well it wasnt my account so ill try the java thing
#4075 [21:00] <BurnZeZ> Yeah.
#4076 [21:00] <BurnZeZ> Patch 24 broke java for me.
#4077 [21:01] <BurnZeZ> It might've done the same for you.
#4078 [21:01] <Anthony159> should i redownload jdk just incase?
#4079 [21:01] <BurnZeZ> No. Just JRE
#4080 [21:01] <Anthony159> k
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#4082 [21:07] <Anthony159> grrr now it doesnt want to install right...
#4083 [21:07] <Anthony159> ill get it
#4084 [21:07] <Anthony159> with some trial and error
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#4086 [21:09] <mib_6bgxzx> ok. i tried the in browser mode and it lags really bad. is there any way to get the downloaded minecraft to not go to black screen after updating.
#4087 [21:09] <nipper> Anyone know what level it needs to be for slimes to spawn. I know they dont spawn above ground. But I know deeper you go they will start to spawn.
#4088 [21:10] <clank714> CLANK IN
#4089 [21:10] <dopeghoti> mib_6bgxzx: once you've played in-browser, the downloadable client should work. What sort of computer are you playing on.
#4090 [21:10] <mib_6bgxzx> laptop
#4091 [21:10] <mib_6bgxzx> compaq
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#4093 [21:10] * dopeghoti conks clank in the clavicle
#4093 [21:10] <dopeghoti> mib_6bgxzx: what sort of RAM? CPU? GPU?
#4094 [21:10] <nikthejedi> how do i talk in #minecraft
#4095 [21:11] <dopeghoti> ??> nikthejedi irc
#4096 [21:11] <VoxelHead> nikthejedi: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#4097 [21:11] <VoxelHead> nikthejedi: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#4098 [21:11] <mib_6bgxzx> my computer is like 6 years old
#4099 [21:11] <BurnZeZ> Anthony159: I had problems with the install as well.
#4100 [21:11] <nikthejedi> lol thanks
#4101 [21:11] <BurnZeZ> Took like 3 re-installs to work right.
#4102 [21:11] <dopeghoti> ??> mib_6bgxzx requirements
#4103 [21:11] <VoxelHead> mib_6bgxzx: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#4104 [21:12] <Kade> tbh, the cpu is the more critical part there
#4105 [21:13] <dopeghoti> Kade: actually, the RAM, CPU, and GPU are more or less all on equal terms WRT importance
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#4107 [21:13] <Anthony159> its taking like 6 for me and i still dont have it
#4108 [21:13] <Anthony159> it keeps saying it cant run some dll
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#4110 [21:13] <dopeghoti> ?? specific
#4111 [21:13] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#4112 [21:13] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#4113 [21:14] <Emaxx> Hello, I am having issues running minecraft.exe and the world of minecraft client. It comes up with a message saying that it "Could not create the Java virtual machine"
#4114 [21:15] <Anthony159> wom hasnt been working for like 3 days for me
#4115 [21:15] <dopeghoti> Emaxx: what version of Java have you? What OS are you running?
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#4117 [21:15] <Emaxx> Most up to date version, just updated it today. Windows XP.
#4118 [21:15] <dopeghoti> Anthony159: WoM is a third-party client and isn't supported here. Have you tried the vanilla client?
#4119 [21:15] <BurnZeZ> 64 or 32 bit?
#4120 [21:15] <Emaxx> Yes. I have tried minecraft.exe and it doesn't work.
#4121 [21:15] <Corporal_Dirge> I haven't been able to run my server for the last 2 days. is something going on?
#4122 [21:15] <Anthony159> no i was just stating that upon what emaxx said
#4123 [21:16] <Emaxx> If I load it up into the browser, it works.
#4124 [21:16] <dopeghoti> Corporal_Dirge: what happens when you try?
#4125 [21:16] <Corporal_Dirge> dopeghoti, Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/server/MinecraftServer
#4126 [21:16] <Emaxx> But I am wondering if there is a way to make this work, as I get a lot of lag in my browser.
#4127 [21:16] <dopeghoti> Corporal_Dirge: how are you starting the server?
#4128 [21:16] <Corporal_Dirge> dopeghoti, I tried redownloading and trying another one.
#4129 [21:16] <Corporal_Dirge> dopeghoti, java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#4130 [21:16] <dopeghoti> What URL are you downloading the server from?
#4131 [21:17] <Corporal_Dirge> dopeghoti, I have the old one that used to work, and the new beta one... let me get link again.
#4132 [21:17] <dopeghoti> !server
#4133 [21:17] <dopeghoti> ^that one?
#4134 [21:17] <Corporal_Dirge> dopeghoti, Yes. I use the linux one.
#4135 [21:18] <dopeghoti> strange; I'm using that same .jar and it's working for me.
#4136 [21:18] <Corporal_Dirge> dopeghoti, http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1298945875896
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#4138 [21:18] <Anthony159> omg finally i got jre to download
#4139 [21:18] <BurnZeZ> Yay.
#4140 [21:19] <Corporal_Dirge> dopeghoti, I'll try another download.
#4141 [21:19] <dopeghoti> Corporal_Dirge: good luck.
#4142 [21:19] <BurnZeZ> xales.
#4143 [21:19] <Anthony159> ill brb testing if it worked..
#4144 [21:20] <Corporal_Dirge> dopeghoti, Same error.
#4145 [21:20] <dopeghoti> s[bleep]t.
#4146 [21:20] <Anthony159> YES
#4147 [21:20] <Corporal_Dirge> brb
#4148 [21:20] <Anthony159> IT WORKED
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#4150 [21:20] <BurnZeZ> Congrats.
#4151 [21:20] <Anthony159> thank you
#4152 [21:20] <BurnZeZ> No problem.
#4153 [21:21] <BurnZeZ> Just curious, do you have Windows 7 64-bit?
#4154 [21:21] <Anthony159> yea
#4155 [21:21] <BurnZeZ> Heh.
#4156 [21:21] <BurnZeZ> I do too.
#4157 [21:21] <Anthony159> lol its a hassle sometimes
#4158 [21:21] <BurnZeZ> We need a new OS.
#4159 [21:22] <BurnZeZ> We have Linux/Windows/Unix/etc
#4160 [21:22] <BurnZeZ> We need a new big OS that will revolutionize everything.
#4161 [21:22] <BurnZeZ> :3
#4162 [21:22] <aetherian> BSD...
#4163 [21:22] <dopeghoti> Haiku?
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#4165 [21:22] <aetherian> haha
#4166 [21:22] <shotz> D:
#4167 [21:22] <BurnZeZ> Hey.
#4168 [21:22] <BurnZeZ> Anyone here a Linux pro?
#4169 [21:22] <Anthony159> it can be called.... LinWinUnOSX
#4170 [21:22] <aetherian> yes, BurnZeZ.
#4171 [21:23] <dopeghoti> I am, in that I am paid to administer Linux boxen.
#4172 [21:23] <BurnZeZ> http://www.livestream.com/burnzco
#4173 [21:23] <BurnZeZ> I'm showing off my l33t linux not working.
#4174 [21:23] <BurnZeZ> Need some helpz.
#4175 [21:23] <shotz> WHERE AM I
#4176 [21:23] <shotz> What's this crazy place
#4177 [21:23] <shotz> *escapes*
#4178 [21:25] <shotz> Why can't i type in #minecraft
#4179 [21:25] <shotz> >:
#4180 [21:25] <dopeghoti> ??>> shotz irc
#4181 [21:26] <shotz> say what now
#4182 [21:31] <shotz> How the hell do you register.
#4183 [21:31] <shotz> .__.
#4184 [21:32] <dopeghoti> ??> shotz irc
#4185 [21:32] <VoxelHead> shotz: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#4186 [21:32] <VoxelHead> shotz: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#4187 [21:35] <shotz> Got it. ty <:
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#4192 [21:42] <BurnZeZ> Anyone here seen "Real life puss in boots" or "Standing cat in boots"?
#4193 [21:44] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper, "You around?"
#4193 [21:44] * xales stabs GreyVulpine, "Hi!"
#4193 [21:44] * GreyVulpine counter-stabs xales
#4193 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Yo.
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#4195 [21:45] <xales> hi
#4196 [21:45] <aetherian> hi
#4197 [21:45] * Cake jumps off a gum tree and hits a koala
#4197 [21:45] <BurnZeZ> xales: http://www.livestream.com/burnzco
#4198 [21:45] <xales> BurnZeZ: no can do
#4199 [21:45] <xales> laptop
#4200 [21:45] <xales> can barely watch youtube
#4201 [21:45] <xales> let alone live streaming ._.
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#4203 [21:53] <ertyuiop99> I need help, whenever I join a multiplayer server the whole map doesn't load. This is on a computer I got recently from a friend. The servers I test it on work fine on my other computer but not on this one. Sometimes maybe a chunk or two will load but it won't allow me to talk or destroy a block.
#4204 [21:53] <xales> can you play singleplayer?
#4205 [21:53] <ertyuiop99> can anybody help? I copy and pasted from a thread I posted.
#4206 [21:53] <ertyuiop99> xales: Yes
#4207 [21:53] <xales> singleplayer works fine?
#4208 [21:54] <ertyuiop99> I can play SMP perfectly at around 500 fps
#4209 [21:55] <xales> is it FPS lag or network lag (press F3 and check FPS)
#4210 [21:55] <ertyuiop99> I've been told to limit frame rate but that didn't help, I've also been told to set priority to high but that didn't work
#4211 [21:55] <ertyuiop99> itss network
#4212 [21:55] <ertyuiop99> it's*
#4213 [21:55] <xales> well, that won't fix it then
#4214 [21:55] <ertyuiop99> fps is around 60-100
#4215 [21:55] <xales> http://speedtest.net/ "run test" then click "direct link" and paste it here
#4216 [21:56] <dopeghoti> If the network's choking; the network's choking; that's about all there is to it.
#4217 [21:56] <gothroach> http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks <-- That test also helps diagnose network issues beyond speed.
#4218 [21:57] <ertyuiop99> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=199233 check this out other people also have the same problem
#4219 [21:57] <ertyuiop99> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1178757575.png here's direct link
#4220 [21:57] <xales> well, you don't really have enough RAM to be playing Minecraft
#4221 [21:57] <xales> so that could easily be related
#4222 [21:58] <xales> do you have a firewall of any sort on?
#4223 [21:58] <xales> also, you should update Windows...service pack 2 is a bit seriously old
#4224 [21:58] <ertyuiop99> I have 1gb of ram... my other computer has 1gb of ram too and minecraft works fine
#4225 [21:58] <dopeghoti> ?? requirements
#4226 [21:58] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#4227 [21:59] <ertyuiop99> I've alllowed minecraft to access the internet in norton btw
#4228 [21:59] <dopeghoti> Saying "It runs fine on my other computer with less RAM" is like saying "My other car runs fine with no oil,"
#4229 [22:00] <ertyuiop99> Well, i guess I'll be playing singleplayer from now on
#4230 [22:00] <xales> oh
#4231 [22:00] <xales> that is the problem
#4232 [22:00] <xales> norton
#4233 [22:00] <xales> lololol
#4234 [22:00] <xales> norton
#4235 [22:00] <xales> uninstall that garbage
#4236 [22:00] <xales> there is the issue
#4237 [22:00] <ertyuiop99> lol I know, ughh norton
#4238 [22:01] <xales> uninstall it
#4239 [22:01] <xales> someone else had a similar issue
#4240 [22:01] <xales> uninstalling it fixed it
#4241 [22:01] <xales> ._.
#4242 [22:01] <M> ._.
#4243 [22:01] <dopeghoti> ._.
#4244 [22:01] <dopeghoti> M is lucky that's not automated.
#4245 [22:01] <xales> it is
#4246 [22:01] <xales> ._.
#4247 [22:01] <M> ._.
#4248 [22:01] <xales> only for me
#4249 [22:01] <ertyuiop99> I know this is going to be quoted by Dopeghoti but w/e. I have the same norton on my other computer and minecraft it fine o.0
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#4251 [22:02] <xales> ertyuiop99: not every computer is the same :)
#4252 [22:02] <arron> hi i have a question
#4253 [22:02] <xales> ??> arron ask
#4254 [22:02] <VoxelHead> arron: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4255 [22:02] <ertyuiop99> I notice that
#4256 [22:02] <VoxelHead> arron: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4257 [22:02] <dopeghoti> Saying "It runs fine on my other computer with norton" is like saying "My other car runs fine with shaving cream in the gas tank, and square tyres."
#4258 [22:02] <arron> im playing singel player how do i move the starting point on a singel player mode?
#4259 [22:02] <ertyuiop99> ._.
#4260 [22:03] <dopeghoti> arron: you cannot without mods
#4261 [22:03] <arron> what mods do i need?
#4262 [22:03] <dopeghoti> arron: however, if you build and use a bed, you will spawn there when you die.
#4263 [22:04] <ertyuiop99> That's not true I die a lot and I have a bed and I get sent to the normal spawn!
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#4265 [22:04] <xales> relsqui: when it isn't announced tomorrow, I am going to ban him :)
#4266 [22:04] <arron> oh but say i finsh the map i wood need to move the spren point on the map is what i meen so people start where they need to start at
#4267 [22:04] <relsqui> xales: hahaha
#4268 [22:04] <ertyuiop99> But seriously, is there any way to make it work? I'm using in-browser right now...
#4269 [22:04] <xales> ertyuiop99: uninstall Norton :)
#4270 [22:04] <nevercast> Minecraft needs to be UDP
#4271 [22:05] <nevercast> it goes out of sync too easy with TCP
#4272 [22:05] * relsqui drags self away from minecraft filk on youtube
#4272 [22:05] <ertyuiop99> Why don't I disable it and try it
#4273 [22:05] <ertyuiop99> ?
#4274 [22:06] <xales> ertyuiop99: even when disabled, things like Norton are still running
#4275 [22:06] <xales> that's how antivirus programs work, which is stupid
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#4277 [22:06] <ertyuiop99> end every process?
#4278 [22:06] <xales> just uninstall it. if it doesn't fix it, it's not like you can't just reinstall it
#4279 [22:06] <xales> you can't end the processes
#4280 [22:06] <xales> again
#4281 [22:06] <xales> if it was that simple, a virus program could just end the processes too :)
#4282 [22:07] <ertyuiop99> I've heard so many negative things that are true, I've even had two games auto-deleted because it thought it was a virus
#4283 [22:08] <Ookami-07> So can someone assist me in getting Minecraft to let me connect to servers again? I know some people can get on, but i haven't been able to get on in some time.
#4284 [22:09] <dopeghoti> AV programs: the original rootkids.
#4285 [22:09] <dopeghoti> er, rootkits
#4286 [22:09] <ertyuiop99> The computer isn't entirely mine because my aunt gave it to my parents and my parents HATE when I alter or download anything while its there
#4287 [22:10] <xales> Ookami-07: why can't you get on?
#4288 [22:10] <ertyuiop99> Hey is their any way to LEGALLY obtain older versions of minecraft that won't auto-update after logging in?
#4289 [22:10] <ertyuiop99> There probably isn't
#4290 [22:10] <Ookami-07> I don't know, xales D: I try to connect and it just says "Connection timeout: Connect" or whatever the similar wording is
#4291 [22:10] <ertyuiop99> there*
#4292 [22:11] <xales> ertyuiop99: there is not
#4293 [22:11] <xales> Ookami-07: can you connect using "127.0.0.1", assuming you are hosting it on the same computer you are trying to play on?
#4294 [22:11] <ertyuiop99> have you tried reinstalling minecraft?
#4295 [22:12] <ertyuiop99> Wait, your hosting one?
#4296 [22:12] <Ookami-07> I'm not.
#4297 [22:12] <ertyuiop99> why not connect to local host?
#4298 [22:12] <Ookami-07> I'm not hosting a server.
#4299 [22:12] <xales> oh
#4300 [22:12] <ertyuiop99> are you sure the server is up?
#4301 [22:12] <Ookami-07> I can't get on anyone else's servers. It's been several weeks.
#4302 [22:12] <Ookami-07> I just talked to someone that was on it.
#4303 [22:12] <xales> Ookami-07: try "smp.shadow-craft.net"
#4304 [22:13] <ertyuiop99> try the server I am moderating: crafted.se:8888
#4305 [22:13] <Ookami-07> Oh weird.
#4306 [22:13] <Ookami-07> Nevermind, then, I guess.
#4307 [22:13] <ertyuiop99> try mine =)
#4308 [22:13] <Ookami-07> I don't know why i can't connect to others though D:
#4309 [22:13] <ertyuiop99> the servers probably down
#4310 [22:13] <xales> Ookami-07: it's either the server, or you have the wrong IP
#4311 [22:13] <xales> or possibly a firewall blocking it
#4312 [22:14] <dopeghoti> Or the server's domain expired.
#4313 [22:14] <Ookami-07> hm. Well I do apologize for wasting your time XD
#4314 [22:14] <ertyuiop99> I just enter any server on this comp and I just start falling infinitly
#4315 [22:14] <Ookami-07> Well the thing is I just talked to the person hosting it, and i know i'm whitelisted, but I just can't get on it. Not your problem though
#4316 [22:14] <arron> o.k i got NBTedit and i can move it now thanks for ur help!
#4317 [22:15] <ertyuiop99> ...
#4318 [22:16] <Ookami-07> So, what is Hamachi?
#4319 [22:16] <ertyuiop99> lol come to crafted.se:8888
#4320 [22:16] <Ookami-07> if you don't mind my asking
#4321 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> !wiki hamachi
#4322 [22:16] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamachi
#4323 [22:16] <GreyBot> Hamachi may refer to:
#4324 [22:16] * GreyVulpine bleh
#4324 [22:16] <Ookami-07> oh
#4325 [22:16] <Ookami-07> derp
#4326 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> !wiki hamachi vpn
#4327 [22:17] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamachi
#4328 [22:17] <GreyBot> Hamachi may refer to:
#4329 [22:17] * GreyVulpine baps greybot
#4329 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> It's just a VPN program
#4330 [22:17] <ertyuiop99> Hamachi is like a way to connect to servers
#4331 [22:17] <ertyuiop99> or something
#4332 [22:17] <xales> also
#4333 [22:17] <xales> ?? fubar/hamachi
#4334 [22:17] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: The addresses Hamachi uses have recently been allocated for real use - this means that Hamachi will no longer work, starting soon.
#4335 [22:17] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: It is highly recommended that you try a different solution
#4336 [22:18] <Ookami-07> ah, because the person who's hosting the server said something about using Hamachi
#4337 [22:18] <Ookami-07> hositing a*
#4338 [22:18] <ertyuiop99> come to my friends server or die: crafted.se:8888
#4339 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Please don't advertise here, use #smp
#4340 [22:18] <xales> Ookami-07: if they are hosting it using Hamachi, you must also use Hamachi to connect
#4341 [22:18] <Ookami-07> Oh.
#4342 [22:18] <ertyuiop99> shit space bar got stuck for a second ._.
#4343 [22:19] <Ookami-07> well, i've just got a severe case of dumbassitis, today, then.
#4344 [22:19] <xales> Ookami-07: the person hosting the server should have told you, not your fault :)
#4345 [22:19] <ertyuiop99> I'm just asking them to come because I'm lonely and for some reason minecraft is actually working when I'm trying to get in a server
#4346 [22:19] <Ookami-07> Well, still, I seem to be doing a lot of silly things today.
#4347 [22:20] <relsqui> ertyuiop99: so you're threatening us and advertising in a channel where it's inappropriate?
#4348 [22:20] <relsqui> awesome way to make friends, there
#4349 [22:20] <ertyuiop99> lol sorry
#4350 [22:20] <Ookami-07> thumbs up to that
#4351 [22:20] <ertyuiop99> just end of stream errored me
#4352 [22:21] <Ookami-07> Karma is what that is
#4353 [22:22] <ertyuiop99> not really, I'm not trying to advertise just asking for someone to come
#4354 [22:22] <xales> ..which is advertising
#4355 [22:22] <BurnZeZ> Why does nobody understand that?
#4356 [22:22] <xales> "I'm not advertising, I just want you to buy this car!"
#4357 [22:22] <Ookami-07> derp
#4358 [22:22] <BurnZeZ> xales: Siiseli still hasn't answered. :(
#4359 [22:22] <relsqui> yeah. perhaps it is not what you mean by that word, but it is what the channel rules mean by that word.
#4360 [22:22] <xales> BurnZeZ: they might not be around. just be patient ._.
#4361 [22:23] <relsqui> xales: what?! people have lives outside of irc and/or minecraft?! preposterous.
#4362 [22:23] <dopeghoti> "You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."
#4363 [22:23] <ertyuiop99> Well I didn't notice that I was "advertising"
#4364 [22:23] <aetherian> inconcievable, dopeghoti.
#4365 [22:23] <dopeghoti> <3
#4366 [22:23] <relsqui> ertyuiop99: well, so that you know, what we mean by that is "asking people to join a server" :)
#4367 [22:23] <relsqui> ertyuiop99: if there was a misunderstanding, that's fine
#4368 [22:23] <relsqui> but now perhaps it is clearer
#4369 [22:23] <dopeghoti> ertyuiop99: Advertising is soliciting consumers for a product or service.
#4370 [22:23] <xales> dopeghoti: Voxel needs a similar entry to my #minecraft thing that is as follows (and should be only usable by people with voice/op)
#4371 [22:23] <xales> .faq lart
#4372 [22:23] <M> Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool - xales pefers the clue-by-four. The presence of the LART has been requested, and it's use upon you may constitute your removal from the channel. Please, take this opportunity to read the rules. See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOFH
#4373 [22:23] <BurnZeZ> xales: So who is Siiseli?
#4374 [22:24] <relsqui> aetherian: you keep typing that word. I do not think it's spelled how you think it's spelled. >_>
#4375 [22:24] <xales> BurnZeZ: Siiseli and (somewhat TrueWolves) run the channel
#4376 [22:24] * dopeghoti prefers the tactical thermonuclear LART.
#4376 [22:24] <nevercast> xales, imo all bots should only be useable by voice and op.
#4377 [22:24] <dopeghoti> and I still haven't pulled the trigger on putting VoxelHead into #MineCraft
#4378 [22:24] <aetherian> relsqui: that is incorrect
#4379 [22:24] <xales> dopeghoti: no need, at this point
#4380 [22:25] <aetherian> I don't know how it is spelled, and I know I don't know.
#4381 [22:25] <xales> my bot does most of what's needed and isn't dumb about bans and such
#4382 [22:25] <Cake> inconceivable
#4383 [22:25] <relsqui> oh, that's all right then
#4384 [22:25] <Cake> i before the e except after a c if the sound is double e and except if you're trying to spell weird because it's a weird word
#4385 [22:25] <nevercast> ^
#4386 [22:25] <nevercast> lol.
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#4389 [22:26] <relsqui> and like ten other exceptions
#4390 [22:26] <BurnZeZ> There's like 8 words that have e before i
#4391 [22:26] <nevercast> Cake, English Languages: Rule applies except for when it doesn't.
#4392 [22:26] <BurnZeZ> Okay maybe 10.
#4393 [22:26] <relsqui> I've never found remembering the rule at all helpful
#4394 [22:26] * Cake points at "if the sound is double e"
#4394 [22:26] <relsqui> BurnZeZ: let's call it 9
#4395 [22:26] <BurnZeZ> Agreed.
#4396 [22:26] <aetherian> cake: how can you be here?
#4397 [22:26] <aetherian> I ate you yesterday
#4398 [22:26] <nevercast> yeah
#4399 [22:26] <nevercast> in my mine
#4400 [22:26] <Cake> example: 'sleigh' does not have a double-e sound
#4401 [22:27] <nevercast> It was full of cake :D
#4402 [22:27] <aetherian> I did not, nevercast
#4403 [22:27] <aetherian> o.o
#4404 [22:27] <nevercast> You ate that cake I know it :P
#4405 [22:27] <aetherian> that's a lie!
#4406 [22:27] <BurnZeZ> cakeわかわいいです。
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#4408 [22:27] <nevercast> cake is a lie
#4409 [22:27] <nevercast> accusation is not :P
#4410 [22:27] <aetherian> no
#4411 [22:27] <aetherian> it is merely intangible
#4412 [22:27] <dopeghoti> The ie <--> ei thing is easy. "Sound it out the German way, and transpose for English"
#4413 [22:27] <relsqui> dopeghoti: ha
#4414 [22:27] <relsqui> see, this is why I learn languages :)
#4415 [22:27] <relsqui> it gradually makes all the other languages make more sense
#4416 [22:28] <ertyuiop99> The cake is a lie = Portal?
#4417 [22:28] <aetherian> nooooo
#4418 [22:28] <dopeghoti> I learns so much about English from learning German that it's not remotely funny.
#4419 [22:28] <BurnZeZ> lol
#4420 [22:28] <xales> I learns so much too
#4421 [22:28] <xales> :P
#4422 [22:28] <ertyuiop99> Lol I can finish the game in less than a day but my dad cant even finish the 2nd room =P
#4423 [22:28] <aetherian> I learns so much it would be unpossible for me to fail english' now.
#4424 [22:28] <ertyuiop99> I love the ending song
#4425 [22:29] <Cake> The cake is TRUTH!
#4426 [22:29] <dopeghoti> for example: 'twe' is an old English word meaning 'two', poached directly from the German analogs 'zwo' and 'zwolf'
#4427 [22:29] <ertyuiop99> The cake is a LIE
#4428 [22:29] <aetherian> ertyuiop99: the meme is OLD
#4429 [22:29] <dopeghoti> "The absence of cake is not a lie."
#4430 [22:29] <relsqui> the lack of absence of cake isn't not a fabrication
#4431 [22:29] <dopeghoti> http://xkcd.com/606/
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#4433 [22:30] <ertyuiop99> When life gives you lemons you make lemon-aid, just to realize Notch hasn't added it to minecraft =)
#4434 [22:30] <relsqui> dopeghoti: alternatively, http://xkcd.com/286/
#4435 [22:30] <ertyuiop99> some guy said that but i can't remember who
#4436 [22:30] <dopeghoti> ertyuiop99: when life gives you shit, what? make shit-ade?
#4437 [22:30] <aetherian> yes
#4438 [22:30] <aetherian> it's good for you
#4439 [22:30] <Mudkipps> Hey, I'm having trouble buying Minecraft of the official site. Would there be any other way to get it?
#4440 [22:31] <dopeghoti> Mudkipps: what sort of trouble?
#4441 [22:31] <ertyuiop99> Lol, Pirating I in no way are suggesting this to him
#4442 [22:31] <Mudkipps> No credit card, and paypal isn't working.
#4443 [22:31] <relsqui> ertyuiop99: yes. you are.
#4444 [22:31] <dopeghoti> define 'isn't working'.
#4445 [22:31] <Mudkipps> Doesn't accept debit
#4446 [22:31] <ertyuiop99> just stating a fact that its another way relsqui
#4447 [22:31] <Mudkipps> or echeck
#4448 [22:31] <relsqui> ertyuiop99: you don't get credit for your backpedaling speed
#4449 [22:32] <dopeghoti> Mudkipps: take some cash, go to your bank. Open an account; link it to PayPal. Done and done.
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#4451 [22:32] <Cam> hi
#4452 [22:32] <relsqui> heh, yeah, basically
#4453 [22:32] <relsqui> or, faster, hand the cash to a friend who has a credit card
#4454 [22:32] <relsqui> have them buy you a code
#4455 [22:32] <Cam> i just have a quick question
#4456 [22:32] <dopeghoti> ?? ask
#4457 [22:32] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4458 [22:32] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4459 [22:33] <ertyuiop99> Hey guys, Safari or Mozila Firefox? I'm using safari and it always closes unexpectadly
#4460 [22:33] <dopeghoti> ertyuiop99: on Windows? Chrome.
#4461 [22:33] <xales> Mudkipps: paypal does accept debit, as long as it's a real card not an ATM card
#4462 [22:33] <Cam> can i download my minecraft on Mac then download it on a Windows?
#4463 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes Cam
#4464 [22:33] <relsqui> Cam: yup! you can download it whenever and wherever you please
#4465 [22:33] <dopeghoti> Cam: yes, if you have purchased Minecraft, you can download it as many times as you like; on as many computers as you like.
#4466 [22:33] <relsqui> your credentials are checked when you play, not when you download
#4467 [22:33] <ertyuiop99> I like firefox better but my brother LOVES safari even though its extrmely unstable
#4468 [22:34] <Cam> thnx
#4469 [22:34] <relsqui> if only they were all that easy
#4470 [22:34] <dopeghoti> ertyuiop99: Safari is quite stable on Macs, where it was born and bred. In Windowsland, not so much.
#4471 [22:34] <dopeghoti> relsqui: indeed.
#4472 [22:35] <ertyuiop99> I depend on firefox anyways
#4473 [22:35] <ertyuiop99> I've been using safari for the past hour and its closed 5 times on me ._.
#4474 [22:36] <ertyuiop99> "Windowsland" is an awesome name along with "Interweb"
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#4476 [22:37] <ertyuiop99> If i do ?? ask will the bot say the thing?
#4477 [22:37] <dopeghoti> ertyuiop99: yes, among other things.
#4478 [22:37] <dopeghoti> if you overuse it, it will be limited.
#4479 [22:38] <ertyuiop99> k, I'm guessing your going to warn me not to abuse it
#4480 [22:38] <dopeghoti> Please use it for good, and not for evil.
#4481 [22:38] <relsqui> funny that
#4482 [22:38] <ertyuiop99> lol spam it?
#4483 [22:38] <ertyuiop99> thats the only evil thing i can think of for it
#4484 [22:38] <dopeghoti> for testing, please use ##VoxelHead; and for checking on what a FAQ's answer is, please use ??<
#4485 [22:39] <ertyuiop99> just type ???
#4486 [22:40] <ertyuiop99> ??*
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#4489 [22:41] <LordClaros> Hey, is anyone here?
#4490 [22:42] <ertyuiop99> nvm I still haven't fixed my problem so I'll see if I can uninstall norton breifly to see if it works. But I'll be going anti-virus-less
#4491 [22:42] <ertyuiop99> Yes, i'm here
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#4493 [22:42] <dopeghoti> ??>> ertyuiop99 help
#4494 [22:42] <ertyuiop99> What do you want?
#4495 [22:42] <LordClaros> I'm having a problem with my mouse and keyboard while MineCraft is running.
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#4497 [22:43] <ertyuiop99> Please explain further? Whats the problem?
#4498 [22:43] <LordClaros> The input lags like crazy.
#4499 [22:43] <xales> LordClaros: Windows?
#4500 [22:43] <ertyuiop99> Singleplayer or Multiplayer?
#4501 [22:43] <ertyuiop99> And OS
#4502 [22:43] <LordClaros> I'll be standing still, then hit the key to walk forward, and I won't move.
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#4504 [22:43] <LordClaros> Both and Win7.
#4505 [22:44] <ertyuiop99> What fixes have you tried?
#4506 [22:44] <LordClaros> It worked for a little bit after the 1.3 update.
#4507 [22:44] <LordClaros> Then, it would stop.
#4508 [22:44] <xales> LordClaros: turn off "smooth lighting" under "graphics options"
#4509 [22:44] <LordClaros> So I removed all my mods, re-downloaded, and all.
#4510 [22:44] <LordClaros> Wait, what?
#4511 [22:44] <LordClaros> "smooth lighting?
#4512 [22:44] <xales> yes
#4513 [22:45] <LordClaros> Is that in the options now?
#4514 [22:45] <xales> go to options->graphic options
#4515 [22:45] <ertyuiop99> I sometimes have a glitch where I wouldn't be pressing a button but it would just acted as if i was holding it down
#4516 [22:45] <xales> and turn off "smooth lighting"
#4517 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> ertyuiop99 - It'll do that if you have the button pressed down, then you pull up a menu, or an inventory window
#4518 [22:45] <ertyuiop99> All i did was press esc then exited esc
#4519 [22:45] <LordClaros> I noticed the new Video Options menu, but not Smooth Lighting.
#4520 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Once you quit out of that window, the button will act as if it's still presed
#4521 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> pressed*
#4522 [22:45] <LordClaros> I'll check that now...
#4523 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Just hit the button again, it'll clear back up
#4524 [22:47] <dopeghoti> ertyuiop99: 'stuck keys' are rather common; just press the key that's acting like it's held down and it'll go back to normal
#4525 [22:47] <braincreation> there is also the multi-press sticky keys, like I think tapping shift 5 times/etc
#4526 [22:48] <dopeghoti> braincreation: that's an whole other issue.
#4527 [22:48] <ertyuiop99> It's weird, when in smooth lighting the torches make less light then normal. like maybe 1 square is fully illuminated and the one next to it is maybe half illuminated then all other blocks aren't lighted
#4528 [22:48] <ertyuiop99> And on a differen't computer it makes much more light
#4529 [22:48] <dopeghoti> ertyuiop99: isn't that "better light"? I dislike that new lighting mode.
#4530 [22:48] <braincreation> I just got back, I did not see any msg's b4 urs dopeghoti, so I am out of context
#4531 [22:48] <ertyuiop99> different*
#4532 [22:48] <braincreation> I disable the new lighting also, it makes everything too dark
#4533 [22:49] <dopeghoti> I just don't like the aesthetic. It clashes with how everything is nicely aligned with the blocks
#4534 [22:49] <xolotl> Agreed!
#4535 [22:49] <dopeghoti> "what next; sphere blocks?"
#4536 [22:49] <ertyuiop99> but on a different computer it makes MUCH more light then normal
#4537 [22:49] <ertyuiop99> lol
#4538 [22:49] <ertyuiop99> "sphere blocks"
#4539 [22:50] <braincreation> I was hoping for subblocks, like slabs, except it take's 4/8 tiny cubes to build a block
#4540 [22:50] <dopeghoti> I have the same reaction whenever I see a texture pack that makes the sun or moon round. "Really? No."
#4541 [22:50] <braincreation> we just need to steal ideas from legos
#4542 [22:50] <dopeghoti> <mode="GroundsKeeperWillie">Sssh! Ye wannae get sued?<mode>
#4543 [22:51] <dopeghoti> s/?</?<\//
#4544 [22:51] <ertyuiop99> Yeah, I like better light but the light levels that it gives out are so low when exploring i have to place on every three blocks
#4545 [22:52] <LordClaros> Okay, I disabled the new lighting and made the graphics ideal for speed as opposed to looks...
#4546 [22:52] <LordClaros> And it still lags my movement.
#4547 [22:52] <LordClaros> But not the game, itself.
#4548 [22:52] <ertyuiop99> dopeghoti: re-pressing the key doesn't work for me i just open up esc and close esc
#4549 [22:53] <ertyuiop99> Lol I'm a little late...
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#4552 [22:54] <dopeghoti> The first two things I do when I install Minecraft on a new machine: turn off BetterLight, and move the Inventory key from I to E.
#4553 [22:54] <ertyuiop99> Restart your computer LordClaros, it's a longshot but it might work. If not try redownloading minecraft
#4554 [22:54] <ertyuiop99> I gtg
#4555 [22:54] <ertyuiop99> Lol good idea about the moving inv key
#4556 [22:54] <LordClaros> I tried re-DL'ing MineCraft.
#4557 [22:55] <ertyuiop99> Hmmm...
#4558 [22:55] <LordClaros> It worked for a couple of hours, then started doing it again.
#4559 [22:55] <dopeghoti> ??> LordClaros win/profile
#4560 [22:55] <VoxelHead> LordClaros: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4561 [22:55] <VoxelHead> LordClaros: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4562 [22:55] <LordClaros> But now that you mention it, I've been just hibernating my computer, never turning off...
#4563 [22:56] <LordClaros> I should restart it, huh?
#4564 [22:56] <xales> hibernating = bad, just fyi
#4565 [22:56] <xales> yeah
#4566 [22:56] <ertyuiop99> Yeah, my minecraft username has numbers in it so some plugins/mods I use as a moderator are all screwed up
#4567 [22:56] <xales> try that :)
#4568 [22:56] <ertyuiop99> I told you to restart!
#4569 [22:56] <LordClaros> I hibernate it so that I can save webpages to take them hom.
#4570 [22:56] <ertyuiop99> lol, now go away to restart
#4571 [22:56] <LordClaros> I don't have internet at home.
#4572 [22:56] <LordClaros> lulz
#4573 [22:56] <LordClaros> Meanie.
#4574 [22:56] <LordClaros> *sadface*
#4575 [22:57] <LordClaros> Okay, BRB
#4576 [22:57] <ertyuiop99> lol, I'm not going to say it again. GO AWAY!
#4577 [22:58] <ertyuiop99> I hope it works for him after restart. I would hate if i had that problem
#4578 [22:58] <ertyuiop99> Well, I gtg
#4579 [22:58] <dopeghoti> ciao then
#4580 [22:58] <ertyuiop99> Thanks for at least trying to help
#4581 [23:00] <braincreation> has anyone noticed the new map format being more vulnerable to corruption from cold stops and disk hiccups
#4582 [23:00] <xales> september never ends ._.
#4583 [23:00] <xales> braincreation: it would be
#4584 [23:01] <Shadow386> xales
#4585 [23:01] <Shadow386> im having an issue
#4586 [23:01] <xales> yes
#4587 [23:01] <xales> k
#4588 [23:01] <xales> what
#4589 [23:01] <Shadow386> loading the vanilla server into a nether world has issues :O
#4590 [23:01] <Shadow386> when you die and respawn, it freezes
#4591 [23:01] <Shadow386> whatdo
#4592 [23:01] <braincreation> lol
#4593 [23:01] <dopeghoti> braincreation: makes more sense. Larger files encompassing more map area.
#4594 [23:01] <xales> what
#4595 [23:02] <xales> just put hellworld=true
#4596 [23:02] <xales> let it generate new map
#4597 [23:02] <Shadow386> it is true
#4598 [23:02] <braincreation> luckly tar.bz2's run hourlay makes corruption manageable
#4599 [23:02] <dopeghoti> Shadow386: what do? hmm, don't put the server in Nether mode?
#4600 [23:02] <Shadow386> one sec
#4601 [23:02] <Shadow386> we need the nether mode
#4602 [23:02] <Shadow386> we're turning it into a warzone :P
#4603 [23:02] <xales> and
#4604 [23:02] <dopeghoti> creepers and TNT aresn't enough for you?
#4605 [23:02] * xales will be a supermod/admin/halfadmin/somethingspecialidontknowthenameforbecauseshadowdidntdecideyet
#4605 [23:02] <Shadow386> we dont want to ruin a perfectly good map ;]
#4606 [23:02] <braincreation> just spleef not war
#4607 [23:03] <xolotl> braincreation: If you're having cold reboots so often you need to have hourly .tbz2s, you should really figure out wtf is wrong with your PC. :)
#4608 [23:03] * braincreation completed his hippy saying for the daty
#4608 [23:03] <Shadow386> xales: smp.shadow-craft.net:25580 and try to kill yourself
#4609 [23:03] <Shadow386> click respawn
#4610 [23:03] <Shadow386> its all vanilla
#4611 [23:03] <xales> Shadow386: on lappytop
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#4613 [23:03] <xales> I'll try
#4614 [23:03] <xales> ._.
#4615 [23:03] <braincreation> xolotl, not my pcs, others always asking me for help
#4616 [23:03] <M> ._.
#4617 [23:03] <xolotl> braincreation: Ah, k. :)
#4618 [23:03] <braincreation> after I fix, I have them use a archive rotation script
#4619 [23:03] <LordClaros> You people are made of win.
#4620 [23:03] <braincreation> for future
#4621 [23:04] <LordClaros> Who told me to restart my computer?
#4622 [23:04] <dopeghoti> Everyone.
#4623 [23:04] <LordClaros> lulz
#4624 [23:04] <LordClaros> You all rock.
#4625 [23:04] <LordClaros> And I'm stupid.
#4626 [23:04] <dopeghoti> We try.
#4627 [23:05] <dopeghoti> That'll be ¥80
#4628 [23:05] <braincreation> if your running windows, it's in the manifesto
#4629 [23:05] <LordClaros> I got so used to hibernating it, that I forgot to turn it off every once in a while.
#4630 [23:05] <LordClaros> And dopeghoti, how about I put you as a mod on my server, instead?
#4631 [23:05] <LordClaros> xD
#4632 [23:06] <LordClaros> lulz
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#4634 [23:06] <LordClaros> Speaking of which, does anyone know of a fix for the massive chunk error with BUKKIT?
#4635 [23:07] <xales> you could ask #bukkit
#4636 [23:07] <LordClaros> Ooh.
#4637 [23:07] <LordClaros> Thanks.
#4638 [23:07] <Shadow386> any luck getting it working xales?
#4639 [23:07] <xales> Shadow386: it just blew up my laptop's internet connection when i tried to update
#4640 [23:08] <xales> :<
#4641 [23:08] <M> :< !
#4642 [23:08] <Shadow386> oh my
#4643 [23:08] <Shadow386> well anyone else wanna test out this problem with me?
#4644 [23:10] <Shadow386> its whitelisted dopeghoti
#4645 [23:10] <Shadow386> xD
#4646 [23:10] <dopeghoti> I would, but I'm not whitelisted.
#4647 [23:10] <Shadow386> fixed
#4648 [23:11] <dopeghoti> You sure make it hard for someone to test suicide.
#4649 [23:11] <dopeghoti> stuck at 'simulating the world for a bit'.
#4650 [23:11] <Shadow386> yeah yeah lol
#4651 [23:11] <Shadow386> and yeah, thats the issue
#4652 [23:11] <xales> I think
#4653 [23:11] <Shadow386> fixes by restarting your minecraft file
#4654 [23:11] <Shadow386> or the server
#4655 [23:11] <xales> it's the cuboid protection fucking it up maybe
#4656 [23:11] <dopeghoti> might be a nether/smp bug
#4657 [23:12] <Shadow386> its a fresh map on vanilla xales
#4658 [23:12] <xales> does it work with a new map, Shadow386?
#4659 [23:12] <xales> oh
#4660 [23:12] <xales> I thought you copied over the survival map
#4661 [23:12] <xales> ._.
#4662 [23:12] <M> ._.
#4663 [23:12] <Shadow386> nope
#4664 [23:12] <dopeghoti> xales: is M really necessary? :p
#4665 [23:12] <Shadow386> lol
#4666 [23:12] <Shadow386> ._.
#4667 [23:12] <Shadow386> aw
#4668 [23:13] <xales> gah massive internet lag
#4669 [23:13] <xales> anyway
#4670 [23:13] <xales> M is necessary in #minecraft but not here
#4671 [23:13] <xales> if you want it gone here just kick it :P
#4672 [23:13] <Shadow386> why in #minecrafT?
#4673 [23:17] <xales> channel management
#4674 [23:17] <xales> and it lets me be incognito
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#4679 [23:31] <xales> dopeghoti: you should +s ##voxelhead so random commonfolk don't join it
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#4682 [23:36] <ifish> Today I visited that hell place. It gave me nightmares....
#4683 [23:36] <ifish> Freaking scary!
#4684 [23:36] <jwshields> Hmm, guiz, what does this mean? http://jwshields.pastebin.com/m5vUMu2N
#4685 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Ran out of RAM
#4686 [23:43] <jwshields> How can I make minecraft_server.jar not leak so much ram?
#4687 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have on the system?
#4688 [23:43] <dopeghoti> it's not leaky, it really does use that much RAM.
#4689 [23:44] <jwshields> 2gigabytes
#4690 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> And what command line are you launching minecraft_server with?
#4691 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Also, are you running the client on the same machine as well?
#4692 [23:45] <jwshields> java -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m -jar minecraft_server.jar
#4693 [23:45] <jwshields> no,
#4694 [23:45] <genshou> Is it normal for Dibs to take over 10 minutes to verify a credit card? :C It never did that when I bought Alpha keys
#4695 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> genshou - Yes
#4696 [23:46] <genshou> Ok, I'll keep it running -_-
#4697 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> jwshields - Are you sure you have a gig of RAM free when you run minecraft_server?
#4698 [23:47] <jwshields> yes
#4699 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Then, what else is running on that machine?
#4700 [23:47] <jwshields> right now, without minecraft running, using 203/2018mb
#4701 [23:47] <jwshields> nothing at all
#4702 [23:47] <jwshields> other than an ircd, and httpd
#4703 [23:47] <genshou> brb
#4704 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> You're running an IRC server as well as a webserver on it?
#4705 [23:48] <jwshields> yes
#4706 [23:48] <jwshields> but that takes literallly no resources
#4707 [23:49] <xales> webserver takes quite a bit actually
#4708 [23:49] <xales> especially if you haven't configured it properly
#4709 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Well, something is eating up all your heap memory in RAM
#4710 [23:49] <jwshields> the webserver came preinstalled/setup with debiam
#4711 [23:50] <dopeghoti> the fact that it's running at all makes your assertion that it takes "literally no resources" a bald-faced lie
#4712 [23:50] <dopeghoti> that, or you have no idea what 'literally' means.
#4713 [23:51] <jwshields> Let me rephrase then, it takes almost no resources
#4714 [23:51] <xolotl> jwshields: That error message looks like it's being generated by your webserver, not Minecraft
#4715 [23:51] <xolotl> jwshields: You'd probably increase its heap size the way you'd increase any other Java process' heap size: with -Xms and -Xmx
#4716 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> How many people are on the MC server? Is it running any mods?
#4717 [23:53] <jwshields> 10 people at most, average 3. and just craftbukkit running dynmap
#4718 [23:53] * GreyVulpine blinks
#4718 [23:54] * jwshields waits
#4718 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Well then, I think you found your problem. Dynmap is trying to run, creating an http connection, but running out of heap space to run
#4719 [23:56] <jwshields> Hmm
#4720 [23:56] <jwshields> Lemme try something..
#4721 [23:56] <xolotl> When in doubt, blame mods.
#4722 [23:57] <dopeghoti> xolotl: well, when mods break everything..
#4723 [23:57] <xolotl> Even if it's vanilla
#4724 [23:57] <xolotl> :)
#4725 [23:57] <jwshields> lol
#4726 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Well, if you look carefully at the error report, you'll see it sticks out bright as day
#4727 [23:59] <jwshields> yeah, but I really have no idea what i should look for
#4728 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> org.dynmap.web.HttpServerConnection.run(HttpServerConnection.java:120)
#4729 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Dynmap is trying to make a connection via HTTP
#4730 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> java.io.BufferedOutputStream.<init>(BufferedOutputStream.java:76)