#1 [00:00] <xales> like I already asked...
#2 [00:00] * VoxelHead eats AuBot
#2 [00:00] * VoxelHead eats AuBot back with a face
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#3 [00:01] <M> ~rarr~
#4 [00:02] <ircguy> man, someone should go on a blitzkrieg against all the misinformation on all the forums for the server setup, it's atrocious
#5 [00:03] <ircguy> and YouTube as well
#6 [00:03] <xales> indeed
#7 [00:03] <ircguy> thanks to you guys for helping me out
#8 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> That's what we're here for
#9 [00:04] <[ssen]> Aubot vs VoxelHead?
#10 [00:04] <xales> GreyVulpine: By the way, if Voxel is annoying you, you can make it go away
#11 [00:04] <VoxelHead> omg yes
#12 [00:04] <xales> VoxelHead, go away
#13 [00:04] <VoxelHead> Fine.
#14 [00:04] <xales> :)
#15 [00:04] <[ssen]> VoxelHead is Hal9000.
#16 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Nah, just some people come here, see VoxelHead speak, and expect it to help them
#17 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Even if none of us are here
#18 [00:05] <xales> they do that even if it doesn't speak and we are here <.<
#19 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> But then they'll complain even more.
#20 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> At least, without the bot AI, the channel will be silent, and people will leave.
#21 [00:05] <xales> but I've had it make random comment when I was trying to help 3 or 4 people at once =/
#22 [00:05] * GreyVulpine nods
#22 [00:05] <xales> so...good to know I suppose
#23 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> I'm still on the fence about the whole random sentences while trying to help people thing
#24 [00:06] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: maybe a way for us to totally make it silent unless we want it on?
#25 [00:07] <Kealper> speaking of spam....finishing up some improvements for mod_mud
#26 [00:07] <xales> Kealper, already does that
#27 [00:07] <xales> just tell it to go away and it goes away for a while
#28 [00:07] <xales> whois it :)
#29 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Yay, I finally got water currents working on my cactus farm
#30 [00:08] <xales> or, local whois if you aren't on it's server
#31 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> I swear I spend more time making the water play nice.. than actually setting the farm up
#32 [00:09] <Kealper> xales: but that is only for 5 min.....meh
#33 [00:09] <Kealper> ok....who wants fried channelspam?
#34 [00:10] <xales> inb4 "Excess Flood"
#35 [00:11] <Kealper> lol
#36 [00:11] <Kealper> !load mod_mud
#37 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear
#38 [00:11] <Kealper> rules first
#39 [00:11] <Kealper> help
#40 [00:11] <Kealper> or not....
#41 [00:11] <Kealper> looks like i borked the thing when i added a ignore list
#42 [00:11] <Kealper> !unload mod_mud
#43 [00:16] <Kealper> !load mod_mud
#44 [00:16] <Kealper> help
#45 [00:16] * VoxelHead flips a coin
#45 [00:16] <VoxelHead> Aubot: inventory,
#46 [00:16] <Kealper> right then
#47 [00:16] <Kealper> start
#48 [00:16] <Kealper> east
#49 [00:16] <Kealper> east
#50 [00:17] * Kealper can't remember this level well
#50 [00:17] <Kealper> e
#51 [00:17] <Kealper> e
#52 [00:17] <xales> n
#53 [00:17] <xales> :<
#54 [00:17] <M> :< !
#55 [00:17] <Kealper> e
#56 [00:17] <Kealper> open chest
#57 [00:17] <Kealper> grab small key
#58 [00:18] <Kealper> inv
#59 [00:18] <Kealper> west
#60 [00:18] <Kealper> west
#61 [00:18] <xales> inv
#62 [00:18] <Kealper> west
#63 [00:18] <Kadey> North!
#64 [00:18] <Kealper> can't go north :/
#65 [00:18] <xales> north
#66 [00:18] <xales> orly
#67 [00:18] <xales> NORTH
#68 [00:18] <xales> bitch
#69 [00:18] <Kadey> Obviously you just haven't noticed the non-obvious exit
#70 [00:18] <xales> ^
#71 [00:18] <Kealper> gotta remember where that torch was...it'll be needed as to not get eaten by a grue
#72 [00:19] <Kealper> west
#73 [00:19] <Kealper> west
#74 [00:19] <Kadey> clearly you should patent that exit if you find it
#75 [00:19] <VoxelHead> yes... i will stop... i will obey
#76 [00:19] <Kealper> crap
#77 [00:19] <Kealper> east
#78 [00:19] <Kealper> east
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#80 [00:19] <Kealper> south
#81 [00:19] <VoxelHead> wasn't expecting Barrycarlyon!
#82 [00:19] * VoxelHead hides
#82 [00:19] <Kealper> west
#83 [00:19] <Kealper> grab torch
#84 [00:19] <Kealper> east
#85 [00:19] <Kealper> gah
#86 [00:19] <Kealper> north
#87 [00:20] <Kealper> spammy? isn't it?
#88 [00:20] <Kealper> spammy,*
#89 [00:20] <Kealper> east
#90 [00:21] <Kealper> south
#91 [00:21] <Kealper> east
#92 [00:21] <Kealper> west
#93 [00:21] <Kealper> south
#94 [00:21] <Kadey> South!
#95 [00:22] <Kealper> east
#96 [00:22] <Kadey> I still think you're missing obvious exits
#97 [00:22] <Kadey> non-obvious
#98 [00:22] <Kealper> lol
#99 [00:22] <Kealper> east
#100 [00:22] <VoxelHead> Won't the exploding hurt?
#101 [00:22] <Kealper> inv
#102 [00:22] <Kealper> north
#103 [00:22] <Kadey> It is quite spammy though :P
#104 [00:22] <Kealper> open chest
#105 [00:22] <Kealper> grab large key
#106 [00:23] <Kealper> you can tell me to stop at any time, btw lol
#107 [00:23] <Kealper> south
#108 [00:23] <VoxelHead> aw... i wanted to explode
#109 [00:23] <Kealper> westward, to FIN!
#110 [00:23] <Kealper> west
#111 [00:23] <Kealper> west
#112 [00:23] <Kealper> west
#113 [00:23] <Kealper> west
#114 [00:23] <Kealper> west
#115 [00:23] <VoxelHead> Yay... i'm gonna be sick.
#116 [00:24] <Kealper> north
#117 [00:24] <Kealper> use portal
#118 [00:24] <xales> having fun?
#119 [00:25] <VoxelHead> let me consult a fortune cookie
#120 [00:25] <Kealper> meh, i finished it
#121 [00:25] <Kealper> !unload mod_mud
#122 [00:25] <Kealper> and that...is spamming a channel 101
#123 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
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#125 [00:26] <VoxelHead> Welcome to our next contestant, v|jeev4!
#126 [00:26] <Kealper> lesson 102 would be looking at the map of the level that i drew up in paint and doing a speedrun...in the channel
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#128 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> No, this.. is spamming a channel 101
#129 [00:26] <VoxelHead> are you here to fumigate the moose head?
#130 [00:26] <Kealper> inb4 uno
#131 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#132 [00:26] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead
#132 [00:26] <figaro> can someone help me?
#133 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Sure, with?
#134 [00:27] * VoxelHead stabs GreyVulpine
#134 [00:27] <figaro> how can i change my username in minecraft?
#135 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> You can't
#136 [00:27] <figaro> oh ok
#137 [00:27] <figaro> thanks then
#138 [00:27] <VoxelHead> hey! I was using that.
#139 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#140 [00:27] <Kealper> lol
#141 [00:28] <Kealper> easiest way to get voxel to stop doing that:
#142 [00:28] <Kealper> whoops
#143 [00:28] * Kealper kicked VoxelHead from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: VoxelHead)
#144 [00:28] <Kealper> that one
#145 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Right, now, where was I
#146 [00:28] <Kealper> remove the ban when you want it back....it spams join until it gets its way
#147 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> !trivia scramble 20
#148 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#149 [00:28] <GreyBot> 14Starting the trivia. Round of10 2014 questions.10 !strivia14 to stop. Total:10 810
#150 [00:28] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.721 seconds.
#151 [00:29] <GreyBot> 10114.14 Unscramble the following:10 aoabuvyclr?
#152 [00:29] <Kealper> o.o
#153 [00:29] <GreyBot> 14Here's a hint,10 voca______
#154 [00:29] <Kealper> vocabulary
#155 [00:29] <GreyBot> 14Winner:10 Kealper14 Answer:10 vocabulary14 Time:10 32.40614 Points:10 114 WPM:10 314 Rank:10 3rd
#156 [00:29] <GreyBot> 10214.14 Unscramble the following:10 ayll?
#157 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> ally
#158 [00:29] <GreyBot> 14Winner:10 GreyVulpine14 Answer:10 ally14 Time:10 5.74814 Points:10 814 WPM:10 814 Rank:10 1st
#159 [00:29] <GreyBot> 10314.14 Unscramble the following:10 rcepeed?
#160 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> !strivia
#161 [00:29] <GreyBot> 14Stopping the trivia.10 !trivia <number>14 to restart.
#162 [00:30] <Kealper> :<
#163 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> You get the idea
#164 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm... wonder if
#165 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> !ghosthelp
#166 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> !helpghost
#167 [00:30] <GreyBot> The game of Ghost involves spelling a word, with each player in turn adding a letter to a growing word. The object is to avoid being the player who says the last letter of the word.
#168 [00:30] <GreyBot> The player who completes a word loses the round. If on your turn you don't believe the previous player was thinking of a real word, you can challenge that player; the loser of a challenge loses the round.
#169 [00:30] <Kealper> botalert
#170 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> !ghost on
#171 [00:30] <GreyBot> Defaulting to a regular game of Ghost. Other options are !ghost on <ghost;super;xghost>
#172 [00:30] <GreyBot> Type !turn <amount> to determine turn order and place your wager, and then type !begin to start the game.
#173 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> !turn 10
#174 [00:30] <GreyBot> 1: GreyVulpine.
#175 [00:31] <Kealper> !turn 100
#176 [00:31] <GreyBot> Insufficient funds.
#177 [00:31] <Kealper> dang
#178 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Umm..
#179 [00:31] <Kealper> !turn 10
#180 [00:31] <GreyBot> Insufficient funds.
#181 [00:31] <Kealper> !turn 0
#182 [00:31] <GreyBot> Invalid wager.
#183 [00:31] <Kealper> ._.
#184 [00:31] <M> ._.
#185 [00:31] <xales> !turn 999
#186 [00:31] <GreyBot> Insufficient funds.
#187 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> !transfer GreyVulpine Kealper 10
#188 [00:31] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine, You must login with your password before you can transfer
#189 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> bah
#190 [00:31] <Kealper> O.o
#191 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> I don't remember my password..
#192 [00:31] <xales> !turn 1
#193 [00:31] <GreyBot> Insufficient funds.
#194 [00:31] <Kealper> !turn 1
#195 [00:31] <GreyBot> Insufficient funds.
#196 [00:31] <Kealper> dangit
#197 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Try !welfare
#198 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> or..
#199 [00:31] <Kealper> !welfare
#200 [00:31] <GreyBot> Kealper, you been granted a welfare loan of €100 from the EmeraldBOT Bank. This money is nontransferrable, and we advise you pay back your debt with !payback as soon as possible.
#201 [00:31] <Kealper> !turn 5
#202 [00:31] <GreyBot> 2: Kealper.
#203 [00:31] <xales> !welfare
#204 [00:31] <GreyBot> xales, you been granted a welfare loan of €100 from the EmeraldBOT Bank. This money is nontransferrable, and we advise you pay back your debt with !payback as soon as possible.
#205 [00:31] <xales> !turn 6
#206 [00:31] <GreyBot> 3: xales.
#207 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> um
#208 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> !start
#209 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> er
#210 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> !begin
#211 [00:32] <GreyBot> Beginning round with 3 players, and a pot of 31.5. GreyVulpine will start this round of Ghost.
#212 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> !gu T
#213 [00:32] <GreyBot> The current word is "T."
#214 [00:32] <GreyBot> It is currently Kealper's turn.
#215 [00:32] <Kealper> !gu r
#216 [00:32] <GreyBot> The current word is "Tr."
#217 [00:32] <GreyBot> It is currently xales's turn.
#218 [00:32] <Kealper> xales: >.>
#219 [00:32] <xales> sorry
#220 [00:32] <xales> busy
#221 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> You want to be the person to not finish the last letter of a word, but continue appearing as to add letters to a word that exists
#222 [00:32] <xales> !gu a
#223 [00:32] <GreyBot> The current word is "Tra."
#224 [00:32] <GreyBot> It is currently GreyVulpine's turn.
#225 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> If the person before you added a letter that cannot possibly form a word in your opinion, you can !challenge
#226 [00:33] <Kadey> so how does this actually work?
#227 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> !gu v
#228 [00:33] <GreyBot> The current word is "Trav."
#229 [00:33] <GreyBot> It is currently Kealper's turn.
#230 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> ^
#231 [00:33] <Kealper> !gu e
#232 [00:33] <GreyBot> Trave is a word! The game is over, Kealper loses...
#233 [00:33] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine gets €19.6875; xales gets €11.8125;
#234 [00:33] <Kealper> fuck
#235 [00:33] <xales> \o/
#236 [00:34] <Kadey> lol
#237 [00:34] <xales> I'm going to gamble on my winningness
#238 [00:34] <xales> !turn 100
#239 [00:34] * GreyVulpine snerks
#239 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> also
#240 [00:34] <xales> bot
#241 [00:34] <xales> :<
#242 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> !flip 10
#243 [00:34] <M> :< !
#244 [00:34] <GreyBot> Insufficient funds.
#245 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> aww
#246 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> really?
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#248 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> !balance
#249 [00:34] <xales> !flip 2
#250 [00:34] <GreyBot> xales's coin flip lands on tails. xales loses €2.
#251 [00:34] <xales> :<
#252 [00:34] <M> :< !
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#254 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, yeah, spamming 101
#255 [00:34] <Kealper> !flip 10
#256 [00:34] <GreyBot> Kealper's coin flip lands on heads. Kealper gets €5.
#257 [00:35] <Kealper> \o/
#258 [00:35] <xales> !flip 100
#259 [00:35] <GreyBot> xales's coin flip lands on heads. xales gets €50.
#260 [00:35] <xales> :D
#261 [00:35] <Kealper> !flip 100
#262 [00:35] <GreyBot> Kealper's coin flip lands on heads. Kealper gets €50.
#263 [00:35] <Kadey> um
#264 [00:35] <Kadey> I'm still quite confused
#265 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> 'lo Kadey
#266 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Ignore all that
#267 [00:36] <Kealper> !flip 150
#268 [00:36] <GreyBot> Kealper's coin flip lands on tails. Kealper loses €150.
#269 [00:36] <Kealper> hmm...
#270 [00:36] <xales> owned
#271 [00:36] <Kealper> remind me never to go to a casino
#272 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Kadey - Can we assist you in any way?
#273 [00:39] <Kadey> nope
#274 [00:39] <Kadey> Perhaps moderate entertainment and bemusement :P
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#276 [00:40] <Kealper> lol
#277 [00:40] <Kealper> if you've ever wondered what tech support does when not helping people....that was a pretty good example...lol
#278 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, we've done worse
#279 [00:42] <Kealper> i never said worse, i just meant average day >.>
#280 [00:43] <Kealper> meh, i guess i can go back to looking at code.....while having a show playing
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#282 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> I need an interesting way to connect an entranceway to my main hall... then another one to go down to my underground farm complex
#283 [00:46] * GreyVulpine ponders minecarts
#283 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Water elevator?
#284 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> TNT cann.. oh right, not enough space.
#285 [00:47] <Kealper> i have a human tnt canon somewhere, if you wanted to test it
#286 [00:48] <Kadey> TNT cannon clearly
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#288 [00:48] <Kadey> How you could consider any other option is beyond me
#289 [00:48] <vtwes> might someone be willing to take a few mins to assist me?
#290 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> vtwes - With?
#291 [00:48] <vtwes> i'd like to set up a mc server and i'm having some problems doing anything more than the plain vanilla server
#292 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> The TNT cannon would take forever to reload though
#293 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> vtwes - Okay... What are you trying to do?
#294 [00:49] <vtwes> i've found the bukkit instructions semi-unclear and no one else really seems to want to acknowledge things this basic. :(
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#296 [00:50] <vtwes> i'd like to have a few basic mods, namely lookin at no creepers, and maybe some other nice-ities, like administration ranks
#297 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, kinda how things go in #bukkit nowadays. They're kinda fed up of people asking for setup instructions I guess
#298 [00:50] <Bruce_Smith> I have a problem with my friend and his gift code that I gave him.
#299 [00:50] <vtwes> no creepers is the big one. the rest is secondary, as its really only for me and a few personal friends.
#300 [00:51] <Kealper> what sort of problem?
#301 [00:51] <Bluebulletdead> He's logged in, but when he tries to download the Minecraft client, it sends him to a "log-in failed" page.
#302 [00:51] <Bluebulletdead> I verified the payment and everything.
#303 [00:51] <Bluebulletdead> I even have the e-mail and the code.
#304 [00:51] <Kealper> and he correctly applied the code to his account?
#305 [00:52] <xales> Bluebulletdead: "Login failed" means essentially "invalid username or password"
#306 [00:52] <Kadey> you'd think someone would just write a bukkit setup faq or something GreyVulpine :P
#307 [00:52] <Kadey> apparently this would be too easy
#308 [00:53] <vtwes> they do have some basic instructions, but its so not-detailed and not specific... it assumes you know a lot already
#309 [00:54] <vtwes> i've found it a bit frustrating, because i didnt think something as simple as no creepers would involve so much.
#310 [00:54] <Bluebulletdead> xales, this is the chat log.
#311 [00:55] <xales> Bluebulletdead: is he able to log in on minecraft.net?
#312 [00:56] <Bluebulletdead> All he's telling me is that it's hard to log out.
#313 [00:56] <Bluebulletdead> I assume yes.
#314 [00:56] <xales> can you double check?
#315 [00:58] <Bluebulletdead> Yes.
#316 [00:58] <Bluebulletdead> He is.
#317 [00:58] <Bluebulletdead> Here's an update; he has the client.
#318 [00:58] <Bluebulletdead> But when he logs into the client, it fails on him.
#319 [00:59] <xales> Bluebulletdead: what, exactly, does it say?
#320 [01:01] <Bluebulletdead> He's taking a while.
#321 [01:02] <Bluebulletdead> xales: Sending you the chat log.
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#323 [01:05] <vtwes> is there any chance i can get a bit of instruction here on the whole server thing?
#324 [01:05] * Szernex [Szernex@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#325 [01:06] <xales> specifically the server, or Bukkit? #bukkit can probably help you more with that
#326 [01:06] <vtwes> both
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#328 [01:06] <xales> Bluebulletdead: can you have him come on? further diagnostic isn't really possible while playing the telephone game
#329 [01:06] <vtwes> or maybe if u know of bukkit and other wrappers, is there a simpler one than bukkit/?
#330 [01:06] <xales> bukkit isn't a wrapper, or either "simple" or "complex"
#331 [01:07] <xales> it's just an API for other things to interact
#332 [01:07] <xales> on it's own it has no functionality
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#334 [01:08] <Bluebulletdead> xales: I'm... afraid that might be rather difficult, even for him. Sounds like he doesn't know how to use a computer.
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#336 [01:08] <xales> using Mibbit is pretty effortless
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#338 [01:09] <Snipey> Hey Can Someone Help Me?
#339 [01:09] <xales> you could direct him to http://esper.net/publicirc.php and have him put #minecrafthelp as the channel
#340 [01:09] <xales> Snipey: with?
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#342 [01:09] <Snipey> i have a crash problem
#343 [01:09] <xales> can you be a little more descriptive?
#344 [01:09] <Snipey> one sec
#345 [01:09] <xales> when do you get it, what is the error (use http://pastebin.com/ for that) if any
#346 [01:10] <Snipey> I Keep crashing in smp i can play for about 30 to 45 mintues and then it crashes and i blue screen. But i reboot and i load in and it crashes. I havent seen how long it takes before i can do the the 45 mins. Its not my computer only happens in smp. But i get no error code after. ive tryed reinstalling already everything it just keeps happening and makes no sence.
#347 [01:10] <Snipey> Anyone Have Any Ideas?
#348 [01:10] <Snipey> i dont get a crash code
#349 [01:12] <Snipey> So what should i do?
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#351 [01:13] <Blade_whatever> uh...
#352 [01:13] <Blade_whatever> xales?
#353 [01:13] <xales> hi
#354 [01:13] <xales> ??> Snipey win/dxdiag
#355 [01:13] <VoxelHead> Snipey: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#356 [01:13] <VoxelHead> Snipey: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#357 [01:14] <Blade_whatever> ........Are you the Minecraft guy?
#358 [01:14] <xales> Blade_whatever: are you using windows xp or windows 7/vista?
#359 [01:14] <Blade_whatever> Vista.
#360 [01:14] <xales> ok
#361 [01:15] <xales> open the start menu, in the search area type "cmd" and hit enter
#362 [01:15] <xales> in the box that comes up, type "ping minecraft.net" and hit enter
#363 [01:15] <xales> it will say something like "Pinging minecraft.net [numbers in brackets]"
#364 [01:15] <xales> can you paste/write here what the [numbers in brackets] are?
#365 [01:16] <Decree> could anyone help me with just setting up a server (mac)
#366 [01:16] <Decree> i have it all set
#367 [01:17] <Decree> but now i get a weird error
#368 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> What error Decree?
#369 [01:17] <xales> Decree: what error? use pastebin if it's longer than one line (http://pastebin.com/)
#370 [01:17] <Blade_whatever> [50.16.203.217]
#371 [01:18] <Decree> http://pastebin.com/YwUz6gW8
#372 [01:19] <xales> Decree: when do you get that error?
#373 [01:19] <Decree> starting up the server
#374 [01:19] <xales> and this is a...mac?
#375 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Decree - Could you paste the entire console log when you start it up to that point?
#376 [01:19] <Decree> yeah
#377 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> I have a feeling it's because of a weird server.properties setting
#378 [01:20] <xales> Blade_whatever: that looks correct..are you sure that you are entering the correct username and password into the launcher?
#379 [01:20] <Snipey> http://pastebin.com/ZigkQCMC
#380 [01:21] <Snipey> here it is
#381 [01:21] <xales> Snipey: so, when you are playing SMP, after a while it crashes with a BSOD
#382 [01:21] <Snipey> yes
#383 [01:21] <xales> when you turn it back on, it crashes immediately when you try to play more
#384 [01:21] <xales> and you have to wait a while before playing?
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#386 [01:22] <Blade_whatever> Actually... I kinda forgot the password because it's a gift code, so it's just this string of gibberish numbers and letters that I probably should have copy-pasted down...
#387 [01:22] <Snipey> yes
#388 [01:22] <Decree> here guys : http://pastebin.com/hgNhSg8t
#389 [01:22] <xales> Blade_whatever: well, that is the problem
#390 [01:22] <xales> Decree: I believe GreyVulpine meant the server console, not the "Console.app" system log viewing utility
#391 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Decree - What in the..
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#393 [01:23] <Decree> ahah
#394 [01:23] <Decree> sorry
#395 [01:23] <xales> Snipey: That sounds very much like the card is overheating
#396 [01:23] <Decree> actually i may have a dumb idea of what is causing this
#397 [01:23] <Snipey> ok but if it was that why would it be only when i play mc?
#398 [01:23] <xales> Snipey: Minecraft is probably much more demanding than other games you play
#399 [01:24] <Blade_whatever> Never mind, I found it.
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#401 [01:24] <Snipey> ok but why the w8 time in between?
#402 [01:24] <Blade_whatever> I tried again. The code. Still getting the Login failed message.
#403 [01:24] <xales> Snipey: the card needs to cool off :)
#404 [01:25] <xales> Blade_whatever: Just to verify, you created an account on minecraft.net
#405 [01:25] <xales> then you logged into that account, and redeemed the gift code on it
#406 [01:25] <xales> and you are now trying to log in to the launcher using that account?
#407 [01:25] <Snipey> maybe my fan on its dead which would casue the overheat but never had this problem before?
#408 [01:25] <xales> Snipey: possible; it could just be that the card is on it's way out (it is rather old)
#409 [01:25] <Blade_whatever> Redeemed it? I dunno, I made a new account and used it as a password. I didn't see any other instructions.
#410 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> erf
#411 [01:26] <xales> Blade_whatever: ..there is the problem
#412 [01:26] <xales> you don't use the gift code as a password
#413 [01:26] <Snipey> about 4 years never really beating up on. and where talking about the Vc?
#414 [01:26] <xales> Snipey: vc?
#415 [01:26] <Blade_whatever> I don't? what do I do with it then?
#416 [01:26] <Snipey> Video card?
#417 [01:26] <xales> Snipey: ah, yes
#418 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Blade_whatever - When you register your account at minecraft.net, then log in
#419 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Then you go to www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#420 [01:26] <Decree> http://pastebin.com/nQGTzY8m
#421 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> To redeem your gift code
#422 [01:27] <Snipey> what esle could it be?
#423 [01:27] <xales> Decree: did you put any IP address in the server.properties file?
#424 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> For now, go to the login page, then recover your password.
#425 [01:27] <Decree> yeah i put the one listed
#426 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> It'll send you a password recovery email Blade_whatever
#427 [01:27] <Decree> server-ip=184.152.16.10:25565
#428 [01:27] <xales> Snipey: it's a hardware problem, so either the card is dying or it's overheating
#429 [01:27] <xales> Decree: there is the problem
#430 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> That's... why
#431 [01:27] <xales> A: that's not a valid IP
#432 [01:27] <Decree> shit
#433 [01:27] <Decree> lol
#434 [01:27] <xales> B: you can't put anything on that line
#435 [01:27] <Blade_whatever> That'd be nice. I'll never remember this password.
#436 [01:27] <Decree> just leave it blank?
#437 [01:27] <xales> (at least, not on a server at home)
#438 [01:28] <xales> yes
#439 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes Decree
#440 [01:28] <Decree> ok
#441 [01:28] <xales> Blade_whatever: you can change the password
#442 [01:28] <Decree> thank you so much guys
#443 [01:28] <Decree> yuop
#444 [01:28] <Decree> it works
#445 [01:28] <Decree> thank you!!!!!
#446 [01:29] <Snipey> the fan is good so i dont think its over heathing
#447 [01:29] <xales> VoxelHead, fire everything at GreyVulpine
#448 [01:29] <xales> :<
#449 [01:29] <M> :< !
#450 [01:31] <Snipey> do you want me to get the BSOD code?
#451 [01:31] <xales> Snipey: no; it's quite clearly a hardware issue
#452 [01:31] <Snipey> ok
#453 [01:31] <xales> there is absolutely nothing else that would explain that. software doesn't care how long your computer has been off for
#454 [01:32] <Snipey> well it does make sence
#455 [01:32] <Snipey> Thanks @xales
#456 [01:33] <Blade_whatever> OK I redeemed the code.
#457 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Blade_whatever - Now try using the minecraft.exe launcher
#458 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> See if it'll let you log in and download the files
#459 [01:34] <Blade_whatever> No it's still saying Login fai... and now it suddenly works...
#460 [01:35] <Blade_whatever> Um... Thank you.
#461 [01:36] <Blade_whatever> I'll just be on my way now, then... Bye!
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#467 [01:42] <zenon> My girlfriend installed a "Mix Craft" pack on my mac for Mine Craft and now it won't eork
#468 [01:42] <zenon> eork^
#469 [01:42] <zenon> work^
#470 [01:43] <xales> ??> zenon mac/reinst
#471 [01:43] <VoxelHead> zenon: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#472 [01:43] <VoxelHead> zenon: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#475 [01:45] <zenon> Thank you
#476 [01:45] <zenon> it works now
#477 [01:46] <Eat_box> So, uh, I'm having a problem with Multiplayer. Everything was fine and dandy before 1.3. But after, every server I go on lags horrifically. Any reason why this would be?
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#480 [01:51] <mib_ecaizd> Does anyone know how you pick your SMP username? Is it the exact name of your minecraft.net account?
#481 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#482 [01:53] <mib_ecaizd> isn't that a little unsecure?
#483 [01:54] <Kealper> have a good password?
#484 [01:54] <mib_ecaizd> yeah. I will. Also I registered a username to my main email that I don't want.
#485 [01:55] <mib_ecaizd> can I delete the account?
#486 [01:56] <mib_ecaizd> or make a new account to the same email and purchase the game?
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#489 [01:57] <mib_ecaizd> I will try to make another account on the same email. Thanks for the info on the name.
#490 [02:00] <mib_ecaizd> It registered just fine. Now I can buy the game and have the username I want. Thanks people!!
#491 [02:05] <Coll> i ish 20 now
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#493 [02:07] <Mine_Builder> Hey I made this creative server but I don't know how to connect to it. Shouldn't the url to connect to it look like this? http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=xx.xxx.xxx.xx&port=25565
#494 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not if you're connecting to it normally
#495 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to grab the public URL from the multiplayer servers page on minecraft.net
#496 [02:10] <Mine_Builder> It's a private server though
#497 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> You can still set it to public, grab the URL, then set it back to offline mode
#498 [02:11] <Mine_Builder> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=<YOUR IP>&port=<SERVER PORT>
#499 [02:11] <Mine_Builder> True
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#501 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> That only works if verify names is off on your server
#502 [02:11] <Mine_Builder> meaning what?
#503 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> the verify-names property in server.properties
#504 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> You need to turn it to false in order to connect via the ?server=xx.xxx.xxx.xx&port=25565 address
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#509 [02:53] <feenyx> I was under the impression that pouring molten lava down your pants was preferrable to being a comcast customer?
#510 [02:54] <Kealper> quite
#511 [02:54] <Kealper> anywho....almost 3am...i'm off to bed
#512 [02:56] <Mine_Builder> rofl
#513 [02:59] <feenyx> further regarding Comcast: http://salamitsunami.com/page/4
#514 [02:59] <feenyx> it's a hilarious read :p
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#517 [03:06] <Rumph> Hey how do I spawn birch lumber?
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#519 [03:09] <Alaska> Hey
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#521 [03:10] <aetherian> Kealper: only 3?
#522 [03:10] <aetherian> weak
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#527 [03:19] <aetherian> heya, SinZ
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#535 [03:42] <FireRat> Hello, can someone explain to me Damage Values? I want to spawn an ink sack.
#536 [03:43] <ConMan8> You can't /give damage-based sub-blocked
#537 [03:43] <ConMan8> sub-blocks*
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#539 [03:44] <FireRat> dang... back to squid hunting then..
#540 [03:44] <ConMan8> Dye's default block in the ink sack
#541 [03:45] <ConMan8> No need to hunt squid!
#542 [03:46] <FireRat> really?
#543 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> yes
#544 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#545 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Try /give yourname 351 number
#546 [03:48] <FireRat> hey look at that
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#548 [03:48] <FireRat> it's too bad we can't get the damage value ones though...
#549 [03:48] <jDodson99> Is anyone else getting a blackscreen when they start Minecraft?
#550 [03:49] <genshou> kekeke
#551 [03:50] <jDodson99> :/
#552 [03:50] <genshou> not you
#553 [03:50] <genshou> I snuck onto someone's server and he forgot he knew me
#554 [03:50] <genshou> so he was trying to figure out how I even found the server :3
#555 [03:51] <jDodson99> rofl
#556 [03:51] <genshou> jDodson99, are you using any mods?
#557 [03:51] <jDodson99> Nope
#558 [03:51] <jDodson99> It was working a couple minutes ago :/
#559 [03:51] <genshou> usually black screens are caused by people trying to use mods and failing to follow simple instructions and read OPs =_=
#560 [03:52] <genshou> what OS are you on?
#561 [03:52] <jDodson99> Well, it's kinda a blackscreen
#562 [03:52] <jDodson99> Mac
#563 [03:52] <jDodson99> it freezes on the Mojang logo, and then it either goes to a black screen or crashes
#564 [03:52] <genshou> Does it give a crash report?
#565 [03:53] <jDodson99> It looks like it, but it just flashes for like a milisecond and then closes.
#566 [03:53] <genshou> Any text files left behind in the launcher folder?
#567 [03:53] <jDodson99> I'll look
#568 [03:54] <jDodson99> Nope
#569 [03:54] <jDodson99> Unless they're in some hidden crevice that Notch created without my knowledge.
#570 [03:56] <genshou> Boo, then it's hard to say what the cause is
#571 [03:56] <jDodson99> Was there a new patch/update?
#572 [03:57] <genshou> 1.3_01 is the most recent
#573 [03:57] <jDodson99> Hmmm
#574 [03:57] <jDodson99> I've tried deleteing my bin folder as well
#575 [03:57] <genshou> ah
#576 [03:57] <jDodson99> And force updating
#577 [03:57] <jDodson99> But nothing seems to want to work...
#578 [03:58] <genshou> I wish I could help, but my Mac is too old to run Minecraft.
#579 [03:58] <jDodson99> xD
#580 [03:59] <jDodson99> Pre-panther?
#581 [03:59] <genshou> idk
#582 [03:59] <genshou> it's a pre-Intel model
#583 [03:59] <genshou> prolly running pre-Leopard
#584 [03:59] <jDodson99> o.o
#585 [03:59] <jDodson99> Well then.
#586 [03:59] <genshou> OS X 10.4.11 :s
#587 [04:00] <jDodson99> xD
#588 [04:00] <jDodson99> Tiger
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#593 [04:08] <FireRat> Ya know someone had the exact same problem as you 2 days ago...
#594 [04:08] <FireRat> I didn't pay any attention to how they fixed it though ><
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#598 [04:14] <Hexilum> If anyone wants to join a brand new minecraft server and help us build a home - 76.170.255.72
#599 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> Please don't advertise here, use #smp instead
#600 [04:15] <Hexilum> k ty
#601 [04:15] <GLaDOS> jDodson99: try downloading the jar, and launching it via cmd prompt
#602 [04:16] <GLaDOS> jDodson99: that'll spam the console instead of the .app
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#606 [04:20] <genshou> holy hell, I just found the 404 challenge
#607 [04:21] <genshou> reminds me of Ant Hell in the MMO Mabinogi
#608 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#609 [04:21] * GreyVulpine remembers Ant Hell in RO.
#609 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> Also played Mabi
#610 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear god, that maze in ant hell looks obscene
#611 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd59/ruuuka/antsfull.jpg
#612 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Really guys, you had to make a like... oh wait, it's a korean MMO, of course they have to
#613 [04:26] <fogWraith> You have to spend at least 8 hours in each area, grinding
#614 [04:26] <fogWraith> Earn 2 experience points
#615 [04:26] <fogWraith> Grind 72 hours before the boss
#616 [04:26] <fogWraith> Fight boss, die
#617 [04:27] <fogWraith> Loose 6 levels
#618 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> fogWraith - You haven't played mabinogi
#619 [04:27] <fogWraith> It's worse?
#620 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> It took me months to get a skill that's crucial to survival.
#621 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> Arrow revolver
#622 [04:27] <fogWraith> Arrow... revolver
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#624 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> Basically, at Rank F ranged fighting.. you're lucky to notch an arrow, and shoot one arrow every 4-5 seconds
#625 [04:28] <fogWraith> Ew...
#626 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> It gets up to rank A, then 9-1
#627 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> With Arrow revolver, it's prepare in seconds, get.. um
#628 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> 5 arrows ready to go?
#629 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> Something like that
#630 [04:28] <fogWraith> Meh ;P
#631 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> It's grindtastic
#632 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> I was triple boxing it
#633 [04:29] <fogWraith> :|
#634 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Oh no, you want to know the worst part...
#635 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/
#636 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Scroll down to skills.
#637 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> See all those skills?
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#639 [04:30] <fogWraith> Ah yes
#640 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> They pretty much all start at Rank F, rank up to A, then 9 to 1
#641 [04:31] <fogWraith> :|
#642 [04:31] <genshou> GreyVulpine, it's even worse than just what the map shows at a glance.
#643 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing stopping you from maxing out all those levels
#644 [04:31] <genshou> :<
#645 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> nothing
#646 [04:31] <genshou> except time and lack of NX
#647 [04:31] <genshou> :C
#648 [04:31] <fogWraith> Your general wellbeing, perhaps?
#649 [04:31] <genshou> also that.
#650 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> Okay, a few of them require premium status
#651 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> But still
#652 [04:32] <genshou> nah, r1 skills just require a lot of AP and weekly rebirths help =_=
#653 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> I played back when there weren't free rebirths
#654 [04:32] <genshou> also a few cash shop items make skill training go faster :P
#655 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> You wanted to rebirth, you paid money
#656 [04:32] <genshou> I played from G1 to G12
#657 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> I played from G1 to... when did black knight come out?
#658 [04:32] <genshou> lol
#659 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> g3? 4?
#660 [04:32] <genshou> g3
#661 [04:33] <genshou> I only quit in November because my computer suddenly started hating me
#662 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> and elves.. and giants
#663 [04:33] <genshou> started playing Minecraft instead :3
#664 [04:33] <genshou> <3 Minecraft
#665 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> I looked at my triple box set up, said.. screw this, and went to DF
#666 [04:33] <fogWraith> DragonFable?
#667 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> I had one main, one mule, and one part-timer
#668 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> dwarf fortress
#669 [04:33] <fogWraith> :P
#670 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, they added a crapton of areas in mabi
#671 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> Also, fogWraith - they didn't invent, but added a Music Macro Language for mabi
#672 [04:35] <fogWraith> What the..
#673 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> You can write your own songs, and play them in game
#674 [04:35] * GreyVulpine shudders at the noise spam
#674 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> There's even a skill for that..
#675 [04:35] <fogWraith> Horrifying
#676 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> Korean MMO, to the extreme
#677 [04:36] <fogWraith> Now, there were instruments in Ultima Online, and skills for playing them... but they served a purpose
#678 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, purpose
#679 [04:36] <fogWraith> Annoy the shit out of others
#680 [04:47] <SinZ> power went out =S
#681 [04:48] <SinZ> brb, Making nachos =D
#682 [04:49] <fogWraith> Reminds me ... need my daily intake of coffee
#683 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> caffiene = good
#684 [04:50] <fogWraith> Keeps me out of trouble yeah ;D
#685 [04:51] <fogWraith> Darn YouTube commercials!
#686 [04:54] <genshou> GreyVulpine, I have a screenshot for you :3
#687 [04:55] <SinZ> disterbing one, or normal? xD
#688 [04:56] <genshou> provided phailbucket will let me :c
#689 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> ?
#690 [04:58] <genshou> sorry, my mouse is worn out
#691 [04:58] <genshou> taking some effort
#692 [04:58] <genshou> http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/genshou/Mabinogi/motivator9365714.jpg
#693 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> oh god
#694 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> damn sheep
#695 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> baaa baa baaa baaaaa
#696 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> I tormented my guild members over VoIP on it
#697 [05:00] <fogWraith> Ooh, new patch for Rift
#698 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Having one main part-timer, sheep shearing was a regular job
#699 [05:02] <aetherian> I need something from outside my room, but I can't go out, it's pitch black.
#700 [05:03] <aetherian> there could be grues
#701 [05:03] <genshou> or creepers
#702 [05:03] <genshou> D:
#703 [05:03] <aetherian> I'm more scared of grues
#704 [05:04] <genshou> I'm not scared of creepers.
#705 [05:04] <aetherian> precisely
#706 [05:04] <genshou> I just hate how they mess up my lawn :C
#707 [05:04] <ircguy> I'm scared of creepers.
#708 [05:04] <genshou> I'm scared of my lawn being messed up
#709 [05:04] <ircguy> is there any material exploding creepers can't destroy?
#710 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> obsidian
#711 [05:05] <aetherian> obsidian
#712 [05:05] <aetherian> uhh
#713 [05:05] <aetherian> adminium/bedrock
#714 [05:06] <genshou> GreyVulpine, what's the most damage you ever saw a player deal
#715 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> I don't remember
#716 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> It's been what, a couple years now?
#717 [05:07] <genshou> indeed.
#718 [05:08] <genshou> Re: music
#719 [05:08] <genshou> I have the title 'the Master Instrumentalist' :D
#720 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Also, I left when pet-revolver was a viable tactic
#721 [05:08] <genshou> lolmusicspam
#722 [05:08] <genshou> pet revolver is always a viable tactic =_=
#723 [05:08] <genshou> well except in Peaca Int
#724 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> summon pet, get pet to attack mob, desummon when attacked. resummon 2nd pet...
#725 [05:10] * GreyVulpine looks at battle tactics
#725 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Oh man, I loved doing that campfire trap in.. uh,
#726 [05:11] * GreyVulpine looks up the g1-g3 boss
#726 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Was in Tir Na Nog.. that final boss
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#730 [05:23] <genshou> D:
#731 [05:23] <genshou> 404 challenge with Charlotte mod
#732 [05:23] <genshou> both of you have to stay alive
#733 [05:24] <aetherian> uhh
#734 [05:24] <aetherian> I don't think the is the mmo channel...
#735 [05:25] <genshou> ;D
#736 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Aah, Cromm Cruaich
#737 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Damn flying bastard
#738 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#739 [05:27] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#739 [05:28] <aetherian> I wonder when voxxy is coming back
#740 [05:44] <aetherian> night
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#749 [06:45] <fuogo> hi
#750 [06:45] <fuogo> I have a question
#751 [06:46] <fuogo> Is it safe for me to give away my Minecraft acc to someone I don't know
#752 [06:46] <fuogo> ?
#753 [06:46] <fuogo> I mean give away as in a gift, not to ever be returned
#754 [06:48] <ItsCriminal> well i would like to have it
#755 [06:49] <fuogo> Sorry, you can't
#756 [06:49] <ItsCriminal> o.O
#757 [06:49] <ItsCriminal> ok well you can give it to someone else thats easy
#758 [06:49] <fuogo> Yes, but is it safe?
#759 [06:49] <ItsCriminal> why not
#760 [06:50] <fuogo> As far as I know, the user can only gain access to the password info?
#761 [06:50] <ItsCriminal> yes true
#762 [06:51] <fuogo> But will it stay that way in the future?
#763 [06:51] <ItsCriminal> well that i dont know, i'm not working for mojang :P
#764 [06:52] <fuogo> Can't remember what info I had to enter to get my account. Except credit card number, which has expired.
#765 [06:52] <ItsCriminal> you entered email nickname and password
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#767 [06:55] <ArmEagle> man.. mods on the satisfaction site should be able to hand out infractions influencing their actual gameplay.. Maybe (haha no chance) that will teach the idiots who don't search.
#768 [06:55] <ArmEagle> Though the satisfaction website could do with some better searching
#769 [06:55] <ArmEagle> Doesn't seem to list by last updated/most recent results
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#774 [07:14] <McNuggets> hi
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#777 [07:26] <nevercast> Hey, DopeGhoti. Can spiders climb fences?
#778 [07:28] <nevercast> xales?
#779 [07:28] <ronjn> anyone here who's hosting a smp server?
#780 [07:28] <nevercast> ronjn,
#781 [07:28] <nevercast> I am
#782 [07:28] <ronjn> i have a question concerning ram
#783 [07:28] <nevercast> smp.nevercast.net
#784 [07:28] <nevercast> WHat about it?
#785 [07:29] <ronjn> how much does it need?
#786 [07:29] <ronjn> minimum
#787 [07:29] <nevercast> ronjn, Depends on how many people and how spread out they are
#788 [07:29] <nevercast> Minimum would be about 512mb
#789 [07:29] <ronjn> so thats for the default map size then?
#790 [07:29] <nevercast> 1GB Recommended for any server that's gonna hold 10~15
#791 [07:29] <ronjn> lets say 3 people...
#792 [07:29] <nevercast> There are no map sizes
#793 [07:29] <nevercast> Map forever expands
#794 [07:30] <nevercast> 3 people will run fine on 512Mb
#795 [07:30] <ronjn> jeah ok
#796 [07:30] <ronjn> and the ram increase while growing?
#797 [07:30] <nevercast> As does Hard Drive space, yes
#798 [07:30] <nevercast> Ram is a little differnet though
#799 [07:30] <nevercast> If everyone is in the same palce
#800 [07:30] <nevercast> *place
#801 [07:30] <nevercast> the rest of the map isn't loaded into memory
#802 [07:30] <nevercast> if everyone spreads out
#803 [07:30] <ronjn> hard drive space wouldn't be the problem
#804 [07:30] <nevercast> the server caches more
#805 [07:30] <ronjn> ram is
#806 [07:31] <nevercast> ronjn, I have a newly born and fully capable server if you want to bring some mates online to it
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#808 [07:31] <nevercast> ronjn, the player base is about 8 people at the moment, 2 online.. we'd love to have some extras
#809 [07:31] <ronjn> thx for offering
#810 [07:31] <ronjn> not sure about it though :o
#811 [07:31] <yeSu> my computer just crashed and the world is gone.. i checked .minecraft saves and the wordl1 map is still there, but when i start the game it says there no world, what shall i do?
#812 [07:31] <ronjn> we'd like to have control over the map
#813 [07:32] <nevercast> I have World Guard so I can protect your stuff from others, ronjn.
#814 [07:32] <nevercast> ronjn, Have a think about it.
#815 [07:32] <ronjn> i will, thx
#816 [07:32] <nevercast> You're welcome, smp.nevercast.net. If you ever consider checking it out
#817 [07:32] <nevercast> ronjn, any other questions?
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#819 [07:33] <ronjn> not at the moment
#820 [07:33] <nevercast> yeSu, I'm not sure if the latest MineEdit loads the new format
#821 [07:33] <ronjn> have to try it with 512mb
#822 [07:33] <nevercast> yeSu, but it's worth a try, Sometimes MineEdit fixes maps
#823 [07:33] <ronjn> the servers ram is limited to 1gb
#824 [07:33] <ronjn> and theres other stuff running on it
#825 [07:33] <yeSu> mineedit? whats that?
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#827 [07:34] <nevercast> yeSu, Third party map editor
#828 [07:34] <nevercast> ronjn, Ahh yeah. Other programs can be trouble
#829 [07:34] <ronjn> teamspeak 3 and stuff...
#830 [07:34] <nevercast> ronjn, My server runs Minecraft and Teamspeak Server, It's all right though. No troubles. You should be okay
#831 [07:34] <ronjn> jeah..have to try it
#832 [07:34] <nevercast> ronjn, Yeah I installed ts3 server on mine today
#833 [07:34] <nevercast> ronjn, I've not fully tested it but server doesn't seem to be over loaded.
#834 [07:35] <ronjn> with how much ram?
#835 [07:35] <ronjn> on your server
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#837 [07:35] <nevercast> ronjn, It's a 512mb until about a week from now when I upgrade to a 1gig
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#840 [07:36] <mib_zkqcvi> hello?
#841 [07:37] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, hello
#842 [07:37] <nevercast> ronjn, What's the other hardware like?
#843 [07:37] <mib_zkqcvi> I need some help pls
#844 [07:37] <nevercast> ??> mib_zkqcvi help
#845 [07:37] <VoxelHead> mib_zkqcvi: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#846 [07:37] <ronjn> it's a vserver
#847 [07:37] <VoxelHead> mib_zkqcvi: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#848 [07:37] <ronjn> let me check
#849 [07:37] <nevercast> err
#850 [07:37] <nevercast> derp
#851 [07:37] <nevercast> ignore that mib_zkqcvi
#852 [07:37] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, what's your issue?
#853 [07:38] <yeSu> nevercast, i downloaded MineEdit, how does it work?
#854 [07:38] <nevercast> ronjn, How much are you paying for it?
#855 [07:38] <nevercast> yeSu, I've no idea
#856 [07:38] <ronjn> 8€/month
#857 [07:38] <nevercast> yeSu, It's not part of Mojang
#858 [07:38] <ronjn> it belongs to a buddy of mine
#859 [07:38] <yeSu> ok
#860 [07:38] <ronjn> and hes concerned about ram usage
#861 [07:38] <mib_zkqcvi> ? oookkk, anyway, I'm trying to connect to a beta multiplayer server
#862 [07:38] <nevercast> ronjn, hmm well yeah Minecraft is a bit of a hog, but it does depend on what players are doing
#863 [07:38] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, Okay
#864 [07:39] <ronjn> it's gonna be serious business :D
#865 [07:39] <nevercast> ronjn, How much is 8 Euro in USD?
#866 [07:39] <ronjn> 6-7 i guess
#867 [07:39] <nevercast> really
#868 [07:39] <nevercast> ?
#869 [07:40] <ronjn> its one of the cheap ones
#870 [07:40] <ronjn> jeah
#871 [07:40] <nevercast> It's 11
#872 [07:40] <nevercast> Hmm that's very cheap
#873 [07:40] <mib_zkqcvi> well actually I can connect but when I do I cant chat, noone can see me, only the spawn point generates and I cant attack or destroy anything
#874 [07:40] <nevercast> I'm paying 19usd
#875 [07:40] <ronjn> oh right
#876 [07:40] <ronjn> 1 U.S. dollar = 0.721709007 Euros
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#878 [07:40] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, try connecting to smp.nevercast.net to eliminate if it's a client or server issue.
#879 [07:41] <mib_zkqcvi> I have a vanilla minecraft so no mods
#880 [07:41] <nevercast> ronjn, hmm.. I'm pretty sure my host is decent, they've been recommended over and over.
#881 [07:41] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, That's okay, it might be internet or something
#882 [07:41] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, or a buggy client
#883 [07:41] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, connect, chat, if it works you can feel free to disconnect
#884 [07:42] <mib_zkqcvi> well everyone else can play fine
#885 [07:42] <mib_zkqcvi> I cant chat no matter wat
#886 [07:42] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, regardless of what server?
#887 [07:42] <mib_zkqcvi> yep
#888 [07:43] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, have you tried more than one server?
#889 [07:43] <mib_zkqcvi> do i need mod for servers or something and yes
#890 [07:43] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, no you shouldn't do
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#892 [07:43] <nevercast> mib_zkqcvi, in your launcher
#893 [07:43] <nevercast> where you login
#894 [07:43] <nevercast> go to options
#895 [07:43] <nevercast> do a force update
#896 [07:44] <mib_zkqcvi> yes
#897 [07:44] <mib_zkqcvi> ok
#898 [07:44] <mib_zkqcvi> *downloading packages*
#899 [07:46] <mib_zkqcvi> its but made no difference
#900 [07:47] <mib_zkqcvi> sry its done but made no difference
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#902 [07:50] <mib_zkqcvi> hello?
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#905 [07:54] <mib_zkqcvi> also that site you suggested says "Sorry there is nothing on this server at the moment. A website might be added in the future."
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#908 [08:07] <mib_zkqcvi> c'mon nevercast why'd you go idol on meh :/
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#910 [08:07] <mib_zkqcvi> wrong face -.-
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#912 [08:11] <mib_zkqcvi> ah well I gots to go to bed now I'll ask again tommorrow
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#914 [08:29] <toxicspider> Hey
#915 [08:29] <toxicspider> I need help with making a alpha server.
#916 [08:30] <toxicspider> I don't know where to download the server software since the author of Minecraft removed the link to it.
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#918 [08:30] <mib_rhm7xb> Hello
#919 [08:30] <mib_rhm7xb> i need help
#920 [08:30] <toxicspider> Hi
#921 [08:30] <toxicspider> with?
#922 [08:31] <mib_rhm7xb> i'm trying to make a lan server just for me and my brother on the beta one he lives in my house to but how would i make the server?
#923 [08:31] <toxicspider> Download the server software
#924 [08:31] <toxicspider> Wait a sec
#925 [08:31] <mib_rhm7xb> i downloaded the software
#926 [08:32] <toxicspider> Ah ok
#927 [08:32] <toxicspider> Then portforward
#928 [08:32] <mib_rhm7xb> 1sec
#929 [08:32] <toxicspider> then go to http://cmyip.com/ and copy your IP
#930 [08:33] <toxicspider> then connect to the ip:port
#931 [08:33] <toxicspider> IP : port
#932 [08:33] <toxicspider> example: 127.0.0.1:25026
#933 [08:33] <mib_rhm7xb> could u tell me the portforwarding ?
#934 [08:33] <toxicspider> what port u mean?
#935 [08:33] <toxicspider> umm
#936 [08:33] <mib_rhm7xb> i haven't portforwarded it
#937 [08:34] <toxicspider> well then do it
#938 [08:34] <mib_rhm7xb> how?
#939 [08:34] <toxicspider> go to 192.168.1.1 in your browser
#940 [08:35] <toxicspider> no im sorry idk much about beta
#941 [08:35] <mib_rhm7xb> i've got a telstra router so i did my gateway
#942 [08:35] <mib_rhm7xb> continue
#943 [08:35] <mib_rhm7xb> its ok
#944 [08:35] <toxicspider> :/
#945 [08:35] <toxicspider> your ip : 25565
#946 [08:35] <mib_rhm7xb> 1sec i have to find where to place it lol
#947 [08:35] <toxicspider> example 127.0.0.1:25565
#948 [08:35] <toxicspider> k
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#951 [08:44] <mib_rhm7xb> help
#952 [08:44] <mib_rhm7xb> i can login with 127.0.0.1 but my brother cant
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#954 [08:46] <mib_rhm7xb> help plz
#955 [08:46] <mib_rhm7xb> i get this [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
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#957 [09:03] <Helpme> Help plz
#958 [09:03] <Helpme> hi
#959 [09:03] <Helpme> can u help me?
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#962 [09:11] <Fronther> Hi there, is it possible to buy minecraft without paypal and mastercard?
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#964 [09:14] <_pg_> the latest osx client keeps crashing on me. especially when i try to close/quit it
#965 [09:15] <_pg_> any ideas?
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#969 [09:28] <panitaliemom> hi]\
#970 [09:28] <ItsCriminal> i cant connect to my server i get Bad packet id 83
#971 [09:28] <panitaliemom> hmm
#972 [09:29] <panitaliemom> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=118496
#973 [09:29] <panitaliemom> \that may help u
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#980 [09:51] <nevercast> Hey guys, I need help
#981 [09:51] <nevercast> I'm the owner of my server
#982 [09:51] <nevercast> obviously
#983 [09:52] <nevercast> We have two admins/ops
#984 [09:52] <nevercast> He is not invincable without god
#985 [09:52] <nevercast> But even without god, I can't be hurt
#986 [09:52] <nevercast> Any ideas how I can fix that?
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#989 [09:58] <sansa11> hay xales^^
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#992 [10:00] <Mash> There a mod or anything to stop RS torches from burning out?
#993 [10:00] <nevercast> Mash, they only burn out if you're doing it wrong
#994 [10:00] <_pg_> didnt know they did
#995 [10:00] <nevercast> afaik
#996 [10:00] <Mash> they do if you toggle them too fast
#997 [10:01] <nevercast> Mash, if you're toggling them too far, you're doing it wrong
#998 [10:01] <nevercast> Mash, try using delay repeaters
#999 [10:01] <Mash> Erm
#1000 [10:01] <nevercast> Mash, or use a 3 or 5 part clock instead of a two part
#1001 [10:02] <Mash> So I'm guessing by naturally assuming I'm a bumbling fool that there isn't a way to disable the burnout?
#1002 [10:02] <sansa11> question.. ive payed 2 weeks ago and my account isn't premium.. ive writed an email to payment@mojang.com or something but i didnt get an answer... ^.^
#1003 [10:03] <_pg_> premium?
#1004 [10:03] <sansa11> yup
#1005 [10:03] <Mash> !paid sansa11
#1006 [10:03] <sansa11> ?
#1007 [10:03] <sansa11> xD
#1008 [10:03] <sansa11> eh yes!
#1009 [10:03] <sansa11> 15 euros
#1010 [10:03] <sansa11> from the official website..
#1011 [10:04] <Mash> Which is minecraft.net
#1012 [10:04] <sansa11> yes
#1013 [10:04] <Mash> Whats your actual username for minecraft.net, or is it indeed sansa11?
#1014 [10:04] <sansa11> i clicked at the buy now button and payed with direct debit or something
#1015 [10:04] <sansa11> sansa11 yes
#1016 [10:04] <Mash> Mine's Mashuga-
#1017 [10:04] <Mash> !paid Mashuga
#1018 [10:05] <nevercast> Mash, There is no mod that I know of, The burning out feature is there I believe for a reason, Each time a torch updates, it updates it's connected torches, If those torches are not in a 'setup' or 'system' that has delays, you basically get an infinite loop. To prevent high CPU load, the game 'burns out' the torches. Which are easily reset.. No there isn't a mod afaik, and that's because it's a load balancing feature of
#1019 [10:05] <nevercast> the game.
#1020 [10:05] <_pg_> !paid patrickegleason
#1021 [10:05] <Mash> sansa11, I just finally paid for the game about 20 minutes ago lol
#1022 [10:06] <Mash> So I have no clue what's going on with your payment process.
#1023 [10:06] <sansa11> maybe i have to ask my mum .. maybe it doesn't paid for some reason
#1024 [10:06] <sansa11> :S
#1025 [10:06] <Mash> I'd assume your card was denied or something.
#1026 [10:06] <sansa11> i dont think so
#1027 [10:06] <Mash> Well the servers think so;
#1028 [10:06] <sansa11> i clicked on pay now and it says thanks for your payment or something^^
#1029 [10:07] <Mash> Either you did it wrong, or payment was declined lol
#1030 [10:07] <_pg_> every single time i hit escape minecraft crashes
#1031 [10:07] <_pg_> how insanely frustrating
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#1033 [10:07] <Mash> Minecraft for me crashes every 28 minutes on the dot.
#1034 [10:07] <_pg_> but it doesnt happen if i vpn into server and play with local ip
#1035 [10:07] <_pg_> only when i use external ip
#1036 [10:07] <Mash> That is odd.
#1037 [10:08] <sansa11> hm.. i ask my mum later ^^ thx .. ;D
#1038 [10:08] <Mash> np sansa11, good luck.
#1039 [10:08] <Mash> nevercast, TY; I'll just have to dick with slowing it down.
#1040 [10:08] <nevercast> Mash, Can I ask what you're making that requires such a fast clock?
#1041 [10:09] <Mash> Honestly, it just seems like I've found one of those cursed-block glitches
#1042 [10:09] <Mash> Stone will only toggle once before it burns.
#1043 [10:09] <Mash> Er Stone-Torch*
#1044 [10:09] <Mash> I've got a server up if you wanna see it nevercast.
#1045 [10:10] <nevercast> Mash, You could always use the diode to take a signal from every not gate and basically have an edge triggered clock
#1046 [10:10] <nevercast> Mash, You'd get a lot more on/off rate out of that.
#1047 [10:10] <nevercast> Mash, I would but I'm currently dicking around on my own server
#1048 [10:11] <_pg_> clocks?
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#1050 [10:11] <Mash> Thing is though, it's already coming off a latch, so it's not like it's being flipped on and off.
#1051 [10:11] <Mash> It really is: /applies torch *click* > torch gone.
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#1054 [10:14] <nevercast> Mash, hmm idk what improvements you could make apart from slowing it all down
#1055 [10:15] <_pg_> we can haz clocks?
#1056 [10:15] <Mash> nevercast, That's what I was saying- It's not going fast. It's toggling like once every 2-3 minutes.
#1057 [10:15] <nevercast> Mash, and it's burning out?
#1058 [10:15] <Mash> Yup
#1059 [10:15] <nevercast> Mash, the one that toggles every 2-3 minutes?
#1060 [10:16] <Mash> Yup, AND the two in the norlatch
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#1062 [10:16] <nevercast> Mash, that's rediculous
#1063 [10:16] <Mash> nor latch is being swapped about as often as the inverter torch.
#1064 [10:17] <Mash> Unless my rackmount server's just too stupid to handle it
#1065 [10:17] <Mash> p4 2.6 w/ 1gb pc400
#1066 [10:17] <Mash> er, ubuntu
#1067 [10:18] <_pg_> never use ubuntu one to backup your world
#1068 [10:18] <_pg_> worst idea ever
#1069 [10:18] <Mash> erm
#1070 [10:19] * xales sets fire to VoxelHead
#1070 [10:19] <Mash> I just wrote a perlscript that tars it like ever hour
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#1074 [10:21] <Mash> I'd love pressure plates that didn't slow minecarts as they rolled over'em
#1075 [10:21] <Mash> pressuretracks <3
#1076 [10:22] <Fronther> how can i get the offline version of minecraft?
#1077 [10:22] <xales> Fronther: the offline version of Beta?
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#1079 [10:22] <Mash> 1. Buy it. 2. Log in and let it download. 3. Exit, restart and click Offline.
#1080 [10:22] <Fronther> yes
#1081 [10:23] <Fronther> thank you
#1082 [10:23] <xales> why do I get the feeling he was one of the people wanting us to help him get the "offline version" for free
#1083 [10:24] <xales> <.<
#1084 [10:24] <_pg_> n00b5aus3
#1085 [10:24] <Mash> That was the purpose of mentioning step 1 and 2.
#1086 [10:24] <Mash> !paid Fronther
#1087 [10:24] <_pg_> if he was trying to steal it. hes an idiot
#1088 [10:25] <_pg_> for asking in here. for help with stealing it.
#1089 [10:25] <xales> people do that all the time
#1090 [10:25] <xales> :
#1091 [10:25] <xales> :<
#1092 [10:25] <M> :< !
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#1094 [10:25] <_pg_> people are cheap
#1095 [10:25] <xales> indeed
#1096 [10:26] <Mash> To be honest, I had a freebie copy of it for about a week before I finally got paid and bought it.
#1097 [10:26] <Mash> And was in here talking to GreyVulpine
#1098 [10:26] <xales> simple fact: if you can afford the monthly cost of an Internet connection, and a computer, you can afford Minecraft
#1099 [10:26] <_pg_> me included-but if you think about it $/hour of playtime its insanely affordable
#1100 [10:26] <lukegb> xales: I can't QQ
#1101 [10:26] <xales> lukegb: I can
#1102 [10:26] <xales> I'm still not in that channel :<
#1103 [10:26] <_pg_> most games are like $60 USD
#1104 [10:27] <xales> not that I could actually join said semi-secret channel that I'll just ask jeb about when they get back from GDC
#1105 [10:27] <_pg_> and have nowhere near the playtime
#1106 [10:27] * xales is in too many damn channels ._.
#1106 [10:27] <_pg_> how long do bosster tracks need to be to max out the speed?
#1107 [10:28] <Mash> Erm, 15 blocks long got me from sealevel to the top 'o the world.
#1108 [10:28] <_pg_> seriously? i must be doing it wrong
#1109 [10:28] <_pg_> i have one that was like 9 and it only went about 500 ft on level ground
#1110 [10:28] <Mash> You playing locally or have a server?
#1111 [10:29] <_pg_> server
#1112 [10:29] <Mash> infos in pm? I can help ya out.
#1113 [10:30] <xales> http://darksigns.net/dumbpirate.log
#1114 [10:30] <xales> ^this was a while ago but still funny
#1115 [10:31] <lukegb> xales: correct your kickmessage spelling misteak (sic)
#1116 [10:32] <lukegb> s/ckm/ck m/
#1117 [10:32] <xales> lukegb: I can't spell properly in kick messages
#1118 [10:32] <xales> then I am unable to ninja other ops
#1119 [10:32] <xales> I must be fast at the sacrifice of correctness
#1120 [10:32] <xales> :)
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#1122 [10:40] <lukegb> .kick
#1123 [10:40] <lukegb> AuBot: did not obey me QQ
#1124 [10:40] <lukegb> ...it still says autorized users
#1125 [10:40] <_pg_> anyone know why my client quits when i hit escape?
#1126 [10:40] <_pg_> like everytime
#1127 [10:40] <xales> _pg_: any mods?
#1128 [10:40] <_pg_> no
#1129 [10:41] <_pg_> only when i connect from remote
#1130 [10:41] <_pg_> local doesnt happen and vpn plus local ip doesnt happen either
#1131 [10:41] <_pg_> just remote ip-as long as i dont hit escape it seems fine
#1132 [10:41] <_pg_> osx client ubuntu server fwiw
#1133 [10:42] <xales> lukegb: :o
#1134 [10:42] <xales> !kick lukegb Hi
#1135 [10:42] * AuBot kicked lukegb from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by xales with reason: Hi))
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#1137 [10:42] <xales> :P
#1138 [10:42] <lukegb> O.o
#1139 [10:42] <lukegb> Did I get kicked?
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#1141 [10:42] <lukegb> Didn't notice :p
#1142 [10:42] <zw> Where to rent minecraft server?
#1143 [10:42] <lukegb> I have autorejoin and a random delay, so channel ops don't realise I have the former turned on :P
#1144 [10:42] <xales> zw: did you try looking using Google? seems not.
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#1146 [10:43] <xales> http://allgamer.net/ though
#1147 [10:44] <zw> I did, but found many ^^
#1148 [10:44] <zw> i guessed that you had some nice one to share
#1149 [10:45] <xales> VoxelHead, wake up already
#1150 [10:45] <_pg_> ideas to make mc client on osx more stable?
#1151 [10:46] <_pg_> maybe its a lag thing- what kind of UL does a server need per person
#1152 [10:46] <xales> it can spike to 200kb/s
#1153 [10:46] <xales> KB/s rather
#1154 [10:47] <_pg_> and if my internet is like 300 down 40-50 up is that KB or Kb-i never quite got that
#1155 [10:48] <_pg_> its supposed to be 3Mbps down
#1156 [10:48] <_pg_> so like 260-280 k down
#1157 [10:49] <xales> 3megabits (what they always advertise speed as) would be 375kilobytes per second
#1158 [10:50] <xales> and servers have no business being hosted on a home connection - most can barely run a web server, yet everyone thinks they can and should have their own Minecraft server for them and their one friend
#1159 [10:50] <xales> :<
#1160 [10:50] <M> :< !
#1161 [10:51] <xolotl> xales: Depends on the home connection
#1162 [10:51] <xolotl> xales: Mine's perfectly adequate for 'round three remote connections
#1163 [10:52] <_pg_> xales: hey thats me
#1164 [10:52] <_pg_> '
#1165 [10:52] <_pg_> :]
#1166 [10:52] <xales> xolotl: and what if you want to watch a youtube video with 3 incoming connections? ._.
#1167 [10:53] <xales> or the neighbor starts torrenting some porn...
#1168 [10:53] <xales> :P
#1169 [10:53] <xolotl> xales: Any reasonable QOS implementation will deal with that just fine
#1170 [10:53] <xolotl> xales: And if you've got neighbor issues you need to lock down your wifi. :)
#1171 [10:53] <xales> >implying garbage routers you get from ISPs these days have any QOS
#1172 [10:53] <xolotl> Obviously if you've got something else chewing up your uplink then there'll be problems, but that's rarely a problem
#1173 [10:53] <_pg_> so we determined that 40-50 down is not enough for 1 -3 clients?
#1174 [10:54] <xales> >implying you have a decent connection that won't be slowed by people near you (cable and DSL both do this)
#1175 [10:54] <_pg_> up rather*
#1176 [10:54] <xolotl> xales: Obviously you don't rely on the ISP-provided router. Just bridge the thing and plug in your own openwrt/ddwrt/tomato thing behind it
#1177 [10:54] <xales> _pg_: it's enough for one..maybe two
#1178 [10:54] <_pg_> xales: but just 1and hitting escape freezes it
#1179 [10:54] <_pg_> after restarting the server-and redownloading client
#1180 [10:54] <xales> that could be because your computer can't handle it and is crashing
#1181 [10:54] <_pg_> mhmmm
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#1183 [10:55] <xales> xolotl: http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/ :)
#1184 [10:55] <xolotl> xales: Though I suppose perhaps it's a bit much to expect your average user to have set up that kind of thing
#1185 [10:56] <xolotl> Still, home internet can be totally fine for hosting small servers, so long as you know what you're doing, IMO
#1186 [10:56] <xolotl> xales: nice
#1187 [10:56] <_pg_> i have a decent grasp
#1188 [10:56] <_pg_> or so i think
#1189 [10:57] <xales> xolotl: 99% of people don't
#1190 [10:57] <xales> I mean, seriously
#1191 [10:57] <_pg_> xales: nice link it says i can run 2+me
#1192 [10:57] <xales> half the stuff we do here is port forwarding
#1193 [10:57] <xales> <.<
#1194 [10:57] <_pg_> I have forwarded the ports lol
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#1196 [10:58] <_pg_> when i connect via vpn to my server and play with local ip i have 0 issues
#1197 [10:58] <_pg_> why would that be? what does it do different really that affects it that much? besides being encrypted. which i thought would make it worse since there is more overhead
#1198 [10:59] <xales> your ISP is probably throttling game traffic
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#1200 [11:00] <_pg_> my client isp?
#1201 [11:00] <_pg_> that would make a lot of sense
#1202 [11:00] <_pg_> b/c its comcast here at work
#1203 [11:01] <_pg_> and im sure they have qos set up for skype
#1204 [11:01] <_pg_> which is currently in use
#1205 [11:01] <_pg_> but why would comcast throttle MC? i mean i get throttling torrents but mc?
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#1209 [11:19] <Pdock> Trying to run the server, not exactly sure, but its saying that it doesn't recognize java
#1210 [11:19] * nevercast has seen a design of a 1-clock and likes it :D
#1210 [11:20] <Pdock> Can anyone help me out for a second?
#1211 [11:20] <nevercast> Pdock, Windows?
#1212 [11:20] <Pdock> Yes
#1213 [11:20] <nevercast> Pdock, Which version?
#1214 [11:20] <Pdock> 7
#1215 [11:20] <nevercast> Of Windows
#1216 [11:20] <nevercast> XP, 7, Vista
#1217 [11:20] <Pdock> Windows 7, just said that
#1218 [11:21] <nevercast> I didn't read up did I
#1219 [11:21] <Pdock> :p
#1220 [11:21] <nevercast> Go to C:\program files\java
#1221 [11:21] <nevercast> tell me the names of the folders in there
#1222 [11:22] <Pdock> Haha, I feel like a moron
#1223 [11:22] <Pdock> I dont have a Java folder.
#1224 [11:22] <nevercast> What
#1225 [11:22] <nevercast> Oh lol
#1226 [11:22] <nevercast> Try downloading JRE <3
#1227 [11:22] <nevercast> And then come back because it still wont work
#1228 [11:22] <Pdock> alright, will do
#1229 [11:22] <nevercast> But download java first
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#1231 [11:22] <nevercast> Make sure it's JRE
#1232 [11:23] <Pdock> Java Runtime Environment
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#1234 [11:24] <Pdock> Installing now
#1235 [11:25] <Pdock> Alright, it's installed. What now?
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#1237 [11:26] <nevercast> Pdock, Go to that folder
#1238 [11:27] <Pdock> the Java folder?
#1239 [11:27] <nevercast> Correct
#1240 [11:27] <Pdock> For some reason, it went to my Downloads folder, but I found it
#1241 [11:28] <nevercast> Did you install it?
#1242 [11:29] <Pdock> yea, but I don't have a Java folder. This is frustrating, lol
#1243 [11:29] <nevercast> What
#1244 [11:29] <nevercast> If you installed it
#1245 [11:29] <nevercast> You will have a Java folder
#1246 [11:31] <Pdock> ah, it was in the x86 folder
#1247 [11:31] <nevercast> Pdock, Do you have a 64bit computer?
#1248 [11:31] <nevercast> Yeah
#1249 [11:31] <Pdock> yea, lol
#1250 [11:31] <Pdock> Alright, found it
#1251 [11:32] <Pdock> Now what?
#1252 [11:32] <nevercast> Sometime in the future you might want to download the 64bit java
#1253 [11:32] <nevercast> anyway
#1254 [11:32] <nevercast> In the Java folder
#1255 [11:32] <nevercast> what folder is there?
#1256 [11:32] <nevercast> ACtually
#1257 [11:32] <nevercast> there is only one isn't there?
#1258 [11:32] <Pdock> jre6 and jre1.6.0_2.3
#1259 [11:33] <nevercast> are they the folders?
#1260 [11:33] <Pdock> yea
#1261 [11:33] <Kealper> i love how java.com gives a download link to the 64 bit install of java for windows inside their FAQ...but it links back to the page that i was at that i clicked the "Information about the 64-bit Java plug-in" link
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#1263 [11:33] <nevercast> Kealper, Lol another Oracle mystery?
#1264 [11:34] <nevercast> Pdock, go into your jre1.6.0_2.3 folder
#1265 [11:34] <nevercast> from there
#1266 [11:34] <nevercast> go into your bin folder
#1267 [11:34] <nevercast> do you see one?
#1268 [11:34] <Kimax> can lava burn wooden planks through obsidian?
#1269 [11:34] <Pdock> yarp, in it
#1270 [11:34] <Kealper> nevercast: indeed....i guess they don't supply 64 bit java with the latest release?
#1271 [11:35] <Kealper> i was going to install that one so i could see if i could get my server to allocate more than 1.5 gigs of ram to the mc server
#1272 [11:35] * fogWraith allocates 2gigs
#1272 [11:36] <Kealper> mine actually fails to create the jvm if i have more than about 1.5 gigs of ram dedicated to it
#1273 [11:36] <Pdock> Where do I go from here, nevercast?
#1274 [11:36] <Kealper> machine has 6 gigs of ram and another 12 gigs of pf...so...available ram is not an issue :/
#1275 [11:36] <PinkFloyd> >_>
#1276 [11:36] <nevercast> Pdock, I'm here.
#1277 [11:37] <nevercast> Pdock, Copy the full address to that bin folder
#1278 [11:37] <nevercast> Pdock, If you're in the folder, you should be able to copy the address from the address bar
#1279 [11:37] <Pdock> Copy and paste it to what, though?
#1280 [11:38] <nevercast> Pdock, You're just going to copy the address
#1281 [11:38] <nevercast> Not the folder
#1282 [11:39] <nevercast> I'll tell you where to paste it in a sec
#1283 [11:39] <fogWraith> Kealper, I think I allocated plenty with JDK 1.7 in ohohoho server mode
#1284 [11:39] <Pdock> Ok
#1285 [11:39] <fogWraith> 2gig minimum, seems to work just fine
#1286 [11:39] <Kealper> meh....i'll give it another shot
#1287 [11:41] <nevercast> Pdock, Go into your start menu
#1288 [11:41] <Pdock> alright
#1289 [11:41] <nevercast> Pdock, in the search, type "Environment Var"
#1290 [11:41] <fogWraith> cpu usage is as it is, though
#1291 [11:42] <nevercast> Pdock, Open up the Environment variables result
#1292 [11:42] <Kealper> hmm...yeah, says could not reserve enough space for the object heap when i put it on 2048M
#1293 [11:42] <Pdock> Alright, what am I looking for then? Something with the Control Panel, I'm assuming
#1294 [11:43] <Kealper> and a friend with 4 gigs of ram can't allocate more than 1.5 gigs either....i wonder if this is a 32-bit java thing on windows :/
#1295 [11:43] <nevercast> Pdock, Did you click the Edit environment variables for your account, result?
#1296 [11:43] <Pdock> yea
#1297 [11:44] <Pdock> Came up with Performance, User Profiles, and Start up and Recovery.
#1298 [11:44] <fogWraith> Kealper, I r using the 64bit one
#1299 [11:44] <Kealper> max i can allocate is 1586mb of ram
#1300 [11:45] <Kealper> fogWraith: yeah....i can't get the 64 bit one.....they don't have it for windows on the official site.....
#1301 [11:45] <fogWraith> :|
#1302 [11:45] <nevercast> Pdock, wait what
#1303 [11:45] <fogWraith> I suppose that would solve it though
#1304 [11:45] <nevercast> Pdock, you are SO not in the right place
#1305 [11:45] <Pdock> Nothing, I found what you were looking for, I was being an idiot
#1306 [11:45] <Pdock> Lol
#1307 [11:45] <Kealper> it probably would...it's probably a limitation with 32 bit
#1308 [11:46] <nevercast> Pdock, lol okay
#1309 [11:46] <nevercast> Under user variables does it have the Variable 'PATH' ?
#1310 [11:46] <Pdock> yes
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#1312 [11:47] <Pdock> nevercast, what do I do from there?
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#1315 [11:48] <nevercast> Pdock, What does the variable say under value?
#1316 [11:48] <Kealper> bah......afk i guess....stupid java
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#1318 [11:48] <Pdock> %CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live
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#1323 [11:52] <nevercast_> Sorry internet dropped out
#1324 [11:52] <nevercast_> Pdock, in the value box
#1325 [11:52] <nevercast_> Pdock, After you press edit
#1326 [11:52] <nevercast_> Pdock, add a semi-colon ; to the end of the line
#1327 [11:52] <nevercast_> Pdock, then paste in the path of that java bin folder
#1328 [11:52] <nevercast_> Pdock, Once you press ok and close those dialog boxes
#1329 [11:52] <nevercast_> Pdock, Windows should find java
#1330 [11:53] <nevercast_> Mash, You still there?
#1331 [11:53] <Mash> nevercast, yupyup.
#1332 [11:53] <nevercast_> Mash, you weren't trying to make a one clock were you?
#1333 [11:53] <Pdock> Thanks, nevercast, I'll give that a try
#1334 [11:54] <Mash> nevercast_; nope
#1335 [11:54] <nevercast> Mash, ah okay, Because I found a 1 clock design that works
#1336 [11:54] <nevercast> Mash, what server you on?
#1337 [11:55] <Mash> Mine? :o
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#1339 [11:55] <Pdock> "Could not find the main class: com.mojang.mincraft.server.minecraftserver" Program will exit
#1340 [11:55] <nevercast> Mash, do you host it at yours, or on a VPS elsewhere?
#1341 [11:56] <nevercast> Pdock, What are you using to start the server?
#1342 [11:56] <nevercast> Pdock, whats the line, starting with java
#1343 [11:56] <Mash> nevercast; I host it on a 1u that's been sitting in the closet for a couple years.
#1344 [11:57] <Pdock> Using the It says theres an exception in the thread "java.lang.noclassdeffounderror:
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#1346 [12:01] <Pdock> I have to go, thanks for helping though Nevercast
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#1351 [12:08] <Topcatyo> hey i need some help with my Minecraft game
#1352 [12:08] <Topcatyo> this is the place to go to for that, right?
#1353 [12:08] <xales> yes
#1354 [12:08] <xales> what do you need help with?
#1355 [12:10] <Topcatyo> alright well
#1356 [12:10] <Topcatyo> ever since minecraft had the 1.3 update
#1357 [12:10] <Topcatyo> my game hasn't worked
#1358 [12:10] <Topcatyo> i start it up
#1359 [12:10] <Topcatyo> log in
#1360 [12:10] <Topcatyo> and once it gets past the splash screens it shuts down
#1361 [12:10] <Topcatyo> never reaches the menu
#1362 [12:10] <Topcatyo> i redownloaded the installer and that didn't work
#1363 [12:11] <Topcatyo> i don't have any mods running, either
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#1365 [12:15] <Topcatyo> oh right, useful info: I'm using Windows 7, Dual Core, 2 gigs of RAM, 32-bit
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#1367 [12:15] <_pg_> Topcatyo: less returns. this is not aim
#1368 [12:16] <xales> ??> Topcatyo win/reinst
#1369 [12:16] <VoxelHead> Topcatyo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1370 [12:16] <VoxelHead> Topcatyo: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1371 [12:18] <Topcatyo> Duly, noted, PG, and the Win/reinst
#1372 [12:19] <Topcatyo> whoops, the win/reinst didn't work, I just tried it out.
#1373 [12:19] <xales> you deleted the bin folder?
#1374 [12:20] <Topcatyo> yes
#1375 [12:21] <xales> did it redownload files?
#1376 [12:21] <Topcatyo> yup
#1377 [12:22] <xales> try creating a new user account on your system
#1378 [12:22] <xales> and running it under that
#1379 [12:23] <Topcatyo> Would a guest account work for that?
#1380 [12:24] <xales> possibly
#1381 [12:24] <xales> I'd reccomend just creating a new account
#1382 [12:24] <Topcatyo> k
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#1384 [12:28] <Topcatyo> Alright so that worked. I don't have to go to that new account every time I want to play Minecraft, do I?
#1385 [12:28] <xales> that's probably the easiest thing to do
#1386 [12:28] <xales> it means your current account got screwed up somehow
#1387 [12:29] <Topcatyo> Alright, well, thanks guys.
#1388 [12:34] <xales> Voxel, kill Kealper with AuBot
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#1390 [12:37] <DarKobalt> Can anyone help me please?
#1391 [12:37] <xales> with?
#1392 [12:37] <DarKobalt> I want to create my own server...
#1393 [12:38] <DarKobalt> I activated it but when I type the URL, it doesn't work...:/
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#1395 [12:39] <xales> are you creating a Classic server or a Beta server?
#1396 [12:39] <DarKobalt> A classic server
#1397 [12:40] <xales> and you are using the URL from the externalurl.txt file?
#1398 [12:40] <DarKobalt> I haven't this file :/
#1399 [12:41] <xales> what URL are you using then?
#1400 [12:41] <DarKobalt> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=192168001016&port=25565
#1401 [12:42] <xales> well, there are a couple problems with that...the first is that the URL will only work for you
#1402 [12:43] <xales> did you configure the server.properties file?
#1403 [12:43] <DarKobalt> yes
#1404 [12:43] <DarKobalt> but it's public now
#1405 [12:44] <DarKobalt> it doesn't work , private like public :/
#1406 [12:44] <xales> do you have verify-names=true in it?
#1407 [12:44] <DarKobalt> yes
#1408 [12:45] <xales> turn that off
#1409 [12:45] <DarKobalt> ok
#1410 [12:45] <DarKobalt> it doesn't work too
#1411 [12:45] <xales> you disabled that and restarted the server?
#1412 [12:45] <DarKobalt> euh...no
#1413 [12:46] <DarKobalt> i restart it
#1414 [12:47] <DarKobalt> it doesn't work too...
#1415 [12:48] <Bofrostmann> gnarf -.-
#1416 [12:48] <Bofrostmann> i just cant get the ports working -.-
#1417 [12:48] <xales> DarKobalt: try using 127.0.0.1
#1418 [12:49] <DarKobalt> ok
#1419 [12:49] <DarKobalt> in the URl?
#1420 [12:50] <xales> yes
#1421 [12:50] <Shadow386> no, in xales' butt
#1422 [12:51] <xales> :<
#1423 [12:51] <M> :< !
#1424 [12:51] <DarKobalt> it doesn't work too...
#1425 [12:51] <xales> I don't know much about Classic servers, sadly
#1426 [12:51] <xales> but someone else might be able to help
#1427 [12:51] <xales> like Shadow386 :>
#1428 [12:51] <Shadow386> whats happening about what?
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#1430 [12:51] <DarKobalt> ok, i retry in you butt =)
#1431 [12:51] * Shadow386 sticks it in xales' butt
#1431 [12:51] <Shadow386> okay, its working
#1432 [12:51] <Shadow386> found the fix to Minecraft
#1433 [12:52] <xales> Shadow386: :<
#1434 [12:52] <Shadow386> <3
#1435 [12:52] <xales> Shadow386: he is trying to run a Classic server
#1436 [12:52] <xales> that's all I have time for, gotta run :P
#1437 [12:52] * xales goes
#1437 [12:52] <Shadow386> okay, whats the problem?
#1438 [12:53] <DarKobalt> i had started my server, but the URL doesn't work ^^"
#1439 [12:53] <Shadow386> the url doesnt work? what do you mean?
#1440 [12:53] <DarKobalt> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=192168001016&port=25565
#1441 [12:53] <DarKobalt> I did like in the README
#1442 [12:53] <Shadow386> hm
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#1444 [12:53] <Shadow386> okay, tell me how you set up
#1445 [12:54] <DarKobalt> server.properties?
#1446 [12:54] <icy_miner> hello there :)
#1447 [12:54] <Shadow386> yeo
#1448 [12:54] <Shadow386> yep*
#1449 [12:54] <Shadow386> hello
#1450 [12:54] <DarKobalt> verify-names=false admin-slot=false port=25565 public=true server-name=DarKobalt's[LAG!!^^] max-players=4 max-connections=3 motd=Welcome to my Minecraft Server\! grow-trees=false
#1451 [12:54] <Shadow386> hm
#1452 [12:55] <DarKobalt> LAG because I have a poor Internet access x)
#1453 [12:55] <icy_miner> am i being fussy trying to install sunjava on ubuntu server.. or shall i just go with open ...
#1454 [12:55] <Shadow386> what happens when you turn the server on?
#1455 [12:55] <DarKobalt> maybe it works normally
#1456 [12:55] <DarKobalt> with level save one time per min, etc...
#1457 [12:56] <icy_miner> as in openjdk
#1458 [12:56] <icy_miner> i hear sunjava has more performance
#1459 [12:56] <Shadow386> turn on the server and let me see if I can connect
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#1461 [12:57] <DarKobalt> it's already on ;)
#1462 [12:57] <neocom> hi there
#1463 [12:57] <DarKobalt> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=192168001016&port=25565
#1464 [12:57] <Shadow386> Error: You can't connect to the server via this URL anymore!
#1465 [12:57] <Shadow386> hm
#1466 [12:57] <Shadow386> ports open?
#1467 [12:57] <DarKobalt> I have the same
#1468 [12:57] <neocom> i have a serious problem
#1469 [12:57] <DarKobalt> oops
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#1471 [12:57] <icy_miner> can i have a lil q-a with some one using ubuntu 10.4 as vps
#1472 [12:57] <icy_miner> ?
#1473 [12:57] <DarKobalt> i forgot open the ports
#1474 [12:57] <DarKobalt> --"
#1475 [12:58] <Shadow386> lol
#1476 [12:58] <neocom> minecraft says it needs opengl support on my netbook
#1477 [12:58] <Shadow386> how old is your laptop neocom?
#1478 [12:58] <neocom> is there any fix for this?
#1479 [12:58] <Jackson413> your video card is too old
#1480 [12:58] <neocom> its a netbook
#1481 [12:58] <neocom> asus eee pc 1005
#1482 [12:59] <Shadow386> how long ago did you get it?
#1483 [12:59] <neocom> 2009
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#1485 [12:59] <Jackson413> everything has a video card, some are built in
#1486 [12:59] <DarKobalt> ok, i had add a port rule
#1487 [13:00] <Shadow386> neocom try to update the drivers
#1488 [13:00] <Jackson413> 2009 is far too old for a netbook
#1489 [13:00] <Shadow386> DarKobalt trying again
#1490 [13:00] <neocom> i did and restarted and installed java but still doesnt work
#1491 [13:00] <Bofrostmann> dude.. im tryin to get a minecraft server running on hamachi.. but it just wont work.. when im tryin to log in it sais 'loggin in' and then minecraft crashes..
#1492 [13:01] <Jackson413> neocom it is too old
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#1494 [13:01] <Shadow386> Bofrostmann not sure what to tell you, havent used hamachi
#1495 [13:01] <Shadow386> DarKobalt checking a few things
#1496 [13:01] <Shadow386> Jackson413 doesnt matter?
#1497 [13:01] <Shadow386> minecraft was around in 2009
#1498 [13:01] <neocom> and no way to get it working?
#1499 [13:01] <Jackson413> in 2009, they were an emerging technology
#1500 [13:01] * Shadow386 sighs
#1500 [13:01] <DarKobalt> TCP protocol?
#1501 [13:01] <Jackson413> what are it's specs?
#1502 [13:01] <Bofrostmann> well without hamachi it wont work as well..
#1503 [13:01] <Shadow386> DarKobalt i think so
#1504 [13:01] <Syntria> Hey Hey~ Question. I have a user on my site that claims their accounts password changed (for MineCraft) and they aren't certain what steps to take to reset their password or contact mojang about it being a stolen account.
#1505 [13:01] <icy_miner> looking for some people who run ubuntu 10.4 for minecraft would like to ask some q's
#1506 [13:01] <Syntria> Is there a prefered way to do it?
#1507 [13:02] <Shadow386> contact support@mojang.com i believe
#1508 [13:02] <Jackson413> syntria i don't believe you can change the email on an acc yet, try retrieving the pass
#1509 [13:02] <Shadow386> DarKobalt
#1510 [13:02] <Shadow386> asus eee pc 1005
#1511 [13:02] <Shadow386> oops
#1512 [13:02] <Syntria> Alright, going to let them know to try those two options before buying a new MC.
#1513 [13:02] <Shadow386> you were connecting to the wrong IP DarKobalt
#1514 [13:03] <Jackson413> good luck
#1515 [13:03] <DarKobalt> arg
#1516 [13:03] <Shadow386> No need to buy a new MC account, just check the emails of support at minecraft.net
#1517 [13:03] <Shadow386> DarKobalt http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=be54760c7ff40738d5345f3fa3bc39a4
#1518 [13:03] <Shadow386> seems to be down though
#1519 [13:03] <Syntria> Yeah. He seems to think it's not worth the effort, that this kind of thing wont' get looked at.
#1520 [13:03] <Syntria> but I've heard people get good support before so I told him he should try
#1521 [13:04] <Shadow386> if he has that kind of issue but say its not worth the effort, he shouldnt be playing a game thats still in Beta stages
#1522 [13:04] <neocom> so there is no way to get it running on asus eee pc 1005?
#1523 [13:04] <Jackson413> he lying then
#1524 [13:04] <Shadow386> neocom specs of the video card?
#1525 [13:04] <neocom> sec
#1526 [13:05] <Jackson413> neocom how much ram do u have?
#1527 [13:05] <Jackson413> u need at least ~1.5 gb
#1528 [13:05] <Shadow386> Jackson413 opengl has nothing to do with ram
#1529 [13:05] <Shadow386> how old are you?
#1530 [13:06] <Syntria> Normally I would think he was lying for attention or what (he wants us to give all his stuff on the smp to a new account) but he's donated several times int he past to our website, so I feel confidant he's not. <- well mostly
#1531 [13:06] <Jackson413> oh yeah we're still on OpenGL
#1532 [13:06] <DarKobalt> the webpage says to me You connected from the same IP as the server. If this page doesn't work, try this page instead.
#1533 [13:06] <Bofrostmann> Shadow386 I just recognised that the server will kick me when I connect.. message is: 'Kicking /127.0.0.1: You need to log in!
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#1535 [13:06] <Bofrostmann> how to fix this? oO
#1536 [13:06] <Shadow386> Bofrostmann sounds like its not connecting to Minecraft.net to verify the username
#1537 [13:06] <neocom> mobile intel 945 express chipset
#1538 [13:06] <Jackson413> auth problem?
#1539 [13:06] <Shadow386> DarKobalt try either page
#1540 [13:07] <DarKobalt> i tried
#1541 [13:07] <Shadow386> Syntria or its not his account and hes trying to steal the persons' stuff
#1542 [13:07] <Bofrostmann> so how may i fix it?
#1543 [13:07] <Shadow386> DarKobalt double check the ports for UDP and TCP
#1544 [13:07] <Jackson413> rs your client
#1545 [13:07] <DarKobalt> it's long...i have the bug of the hole in the java^^
#1546 [13:07] <DarKobalt> ok
#1547 [13:07] <neocom> 128mb
#1548 [13:07] <Shadow386> Bofrostmann i'd suggest making sure it doesnt do this in a few hours
#1549 [13:07] <Shadow386> cause it could be a problem with lag
#1550 [13:08] <Jackson413> FAR too low of specs
#1551 [13:08] <Bofrostmann> alright
#1552 [13:08] <Bofrostmann> then thx so far!
#1553 [13:08] <Shadow386> neocom thats the ram of your laptop? or video ram?
#1554 [13:08] <Syntria> Yeah Shadow, that's why I'm not giving the new account name his stuff. However he's varified himself thru personal life info that his paypal reveals to me and such.
#1555 [13:08] <neocom> videoram
#1556 [13:08] <Syntria> I dont' want to be overly paranoid but I think I should be XD
#1557 [13:08] <neocom> quake3 is working properly
#1558 [13:09] <Shadow386> neocom google your video card or go to the site where the producer is at and try to see if there is a specific update you missed
#1559 [13:09] <neocom> ok thanks i'll be back
#1560 [13:09] <icy_miner> ok please can some one aid me.. i have had minecraft server runing properly with ubuntu 10.4 using openjdk - java
#1561 [13:09] <DarKobalt> I re
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#1563 [13:09] <Shadow386> Syntria its alright to be paranoid, but just be careful anyways and send him to the email or daniel@mojang.com
#1564 [13:09] <DarKobalt> to test
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#1566 [13:09] <icy_miner> but i hear using the official java gibes improvments
#1567 [13:09] <icy_miner> gives
#1568 [13:10] <Shadow386> icy_miner if its working, then why let it bother you?
#1569 [13:10] <icy_miner> i canot add the canonical repository
#1570 [13:10] <Shadow386> you could mess up and not be able to run minecraft at all
#1571 [13:10] <icy_miner> i suppose
#1572 [13:11] <Shadow386> just let it run on what you have for now and have a professional help if you have issues instead of us amateurs
#1573 [13:11] <Shadow386> ;]
#1574 [13:11] <icy_miner> but trouble is allso if i close my ssh conection to the vps it allso closes the terminal thus stoping the mine craft server :(
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#1576 [13:11] <Shadow386> google screen
#1577 [13:11] <Shadow386> screen ssh*
#1578 [13:12] <Shadow386> itll be your best friend
#1579 [13:12] <icy_miner> yea it is installed auto once i apt-get update apt-get upgrade but the minecraft user canot run it for some off reason
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#1581 [13:13] <Shadow386> sudo it then?
#1582 [13:13] <icy_miner> user canot su it either
#1583 [13:13] <icy_miner> tried adding him to admin grp allso
#1584 [13:13] <icy_miner> nothing
#1585 [13:13] <icy_miner> 3 days been at it now
#1586 [13:13] <Shadow386> sudo, not su
#1587 [13:14] <icy_miner> ok ill try again but i have tried everything i can imagine googling /lol
#1588 [13:15] <icy_miner> think im on 9 os formats now
#1589 [13:15] <icy_miner> :D
#1590 [13:15] <Shadow386> oh goody
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#1592 [13:15] <icy_miner> just easier to start over than rm every damn thing
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#1594 [13:16] <Shadow386> sometimes
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#1597 [13:22] <Bofrostmann> why wont it work.. -.-
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#1599 [13:25] <Shadow386> what are you connecting with?
#1600 [13:25] <Shadow386> your external IP or 127.0.0.1?
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#1606 [13:27] <Bofrostmann> i tried both
#1607 [13:27] <Bofrostmann> same thing
#1608 [13:27] <Shadow386> weird
#1609 [13:28] <Bofrostmann> i mean.. why would the server kick the host Oo
#1610 [13:28] <_pg_> port forward?
#1611 [13:28] <Bofrostmann> jep did that
#1612 [13:30] <_pg_> restart server?
#1613 [13:30] <Shadow386> port forwarding wouldnt matter if its on the same computer
#1614 [13:30] <Bofrostmann> did that several times now
#1615 [13:30] <_pg_> didnt know it was local
#1616 [13:31] <Shadow386> is it on the same computer or on another computer or server?
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#1618 [13:31] <Bofrostmann> im running the server on my pc
#1619 [13:32] <Bofrostmann> alway the same message..
#1620 [13:32] <Bofrostmann> 'Kicking /127.0.0.1: You need to log in!'
#1621 [13:32] <_pg_> the same pc youre playing on?
#1622 [13:32] <Bofrostmann> yes
#1623 [13:32] <_pg_> why
#1624 [13:32] <Shadow386> sometimes people want to?
#1625 [13:33] <_pg_> it just kinda defeats the point of aserver idk
#1626 [13:33] <Bofrostmann> you know id like to play together with a friend
#1627 [13:33] <Shadow386> maybe some people want to play with their friends?
#1628 [13:33] <Shadow386> :O
#1629 [13:34] <Bofrostmann> my point
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#1631 [13:35] <Bofrostmann> dude
#1632 [13:36] <Bofrostmann> dont tell me its just been the wrong server file..
#1633 [13:36] <Shadow386> uh oh
#1634 [13:36] <Shadow386> what happened?
#1635 [13:36] <Bofrostmann> i typed the error message into g00gl0r
#1636 [13:36] <_pg_> you need a pretty nice computer to run both client and server at the same time
#1637 [13:37] <Shadow386> maybe he does _pg_?
#1638 [13:37] <Bofrostmann> and found another server.xe
#1639 [13:37] <_pg_> sure im just saying
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#1641 [13:38] <_pg_> we tried it on a 27" i5 imac and it chugged
#1642 [13:39] <Shadow386> Okay, cool story
#1643 [13:39] <_pg_> hostile much?
#1644 [13:39] <Shadow386> my friend has a quad core, 4 gig PC and it runs better then better on his computer
#1645 [13:39] <Shadow386> 10 people connected just fine
#1646 [13:39] <Shadow386> im not being hostile, I'm just proving points
#1647 [13:39] <_pg_> points awarded
#1648 [13:40] <Shadow386> not enough points to finish the level
#1649 [13:40] <Shadow386> game over
#1650 [13:40] <Shadow386> restart or exit?
#1651 [13:40] <_pg_> and theres no score in MC! lol
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#1653 [13:40] <scranner> hi im trying to link my server's irc which is running mcforge to another server same software no idea were to start can anyone help me?
#1654 [13:41] <Shadow386> i was lost at hi
#1655 [13:41] <_pg_> me 2
#1656 [13:43] <Shadow386> oh btw scranner not a mod help channel, only minecraft ;]
#1657 [13:44] <scranner> ok
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#1664 [13:48] <Bofrostmann> well i give up
#1665 [13:48] <Prentice> Hi
#1666 [13:48] <Prentice> Would anyone be able to set up my VPS for me?
#1667 [13:49] <Prentice> I seem to fail at it
#1668 [13:49] <Bofrostmann> minecraft doesnt want me to play with my friends
#1669 [13:49] <Shadow386> Bofrostmann last thing I can guess would be a firewall issue or something with permissions
#1670 [13:49] <Shadow386> Prentice how are you failing?
#1671 [13:49] <Bofrostmann> i dunno..
#1672 [13:50] <Prentice> Shadow386, I just can never seem to do it right :P
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#1674 [13:50] <Prentice> Shadow386, I did it once but there was no map :P
#1675 [13:50] <Shadow386> again, how are you failing or not doing it right?
#1676 [13:50] <Shadow386> whats the problem? errors?
#1677 [13:50] <_pg_> !ask
#1678 [13:50] <Bofrostmann> 'java.io.utfdataformatexception malformed input around byte [different numbers]' is the new problem..
#1679 [13:50] <Prentice> Shadow386, it just doesn't start up or something
#1680 [13:50] <Prentice> Shadow386, I dunno xD
#1681 [13:51] <Prentice> Shadow386, It's just not worked when I've tried
#1682 [13:51] <Shadow386> Bofrostmann sounds like an error with space
#1683 [13:51] <pico> is there any chance to get infinite lava source again?
#1684 [13:51] <Shadow386> Prentice then you kinda shouldn't be running a server until you understand the basics...
#1685 [13:51] <_pg_> Prentice: Customer: hey fix my car Mechanic: so what seems to be the trouble Customer: Oh idk i just fail
#1686 [13:51] <Shadow386> pico with mods
#1687 [13:52] <pico> Shadow386: only with mods? no other chance?
#1688 [13:52] <Shadow386> classic?
#1689 [13:52] <_pg_> pico: spawn some?
#1690 [13:53] <Prentice> _pg_, Well, I've set it up, I just seem to be endlessly falling and there is no map
#1691 [13:53] <pico> no smp
#1692 [13:53] <_pg_> Prentice: try creating a new frsh world
#1693 [13:53] <Prentice> _pg_, I did
#1694 [13:53] <_pg_> Prentice: or rename your old world so you dont lose it etc
#1695 [13:53] <Prentice> _pg_, I will try again
#1696 [13:53] <_pg_> did you restart the server
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#1698 [13:54] <scranner> hi im trying to link my server's irc which is running mcforge to another server same software no idea were to start can anyone help me?
#1699 [13:55] <scranner> its classic btw
#1700 [13:55] <Prentice> _pg_, What do you mean? The Server itself or minecraft?
#1701 [13:55] <_pg_> the server but both cant hurt
#1702 [13:55] <scranner> just the two classic servers chats
#1703 [13:55] <Prentice> _pg_, I did the server but I'm going for a fresh install
#1704 [13:56] <_pg_> scranner: i dont think they support mods here check with whomakes that mod
#1705 [13:56] <scranner> its for classic ive seen it done
#1706 [13:56] <scranner> with mcforge just dont know how
#1707 [13:56] <_pg_> Prentice: youre going for a fresh install on the client or the server
#1708 [13:57] <_pg_> scranner: no one here knows mcmods. check with who makes the mod
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#1711 [13:57] <scranner> #mcforge
#1712 [13:57] <scranner> forgot join
#1713 [13:58] <_pg_> lol
#1714 [13:58] <_pg_> <3
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#1716 [13:58] <Prentice> I will try again :P
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#1718 [13:59] <FIRESTARTER> i changed from an ATI videocard to a NVIDIA one and now Minecraft is much slower (less fps) but the new card is much more powerful. anyone knows how to fix it?
#1719 [14:00] <zw> Is servercraft.co a good rent service?
#1720 [14:00] <oldtopman> FIRESTARTER: get the (updated) drivers.
#1721 [14:00] <_pg_> FIRESTARTER: drivers ftw-what os?
#1722 [14:00] <FIRESTARTER> i have them
#1723 [14:00] <FIRESTARTER> windows 7 x64
#1724 [14:00] <FIRESTARTER> latest drivers from nvidia.com
#1725 [14:01] <_pg_> FIRESTARTER: what card
#1726 [14:01] <FIRESTARTER> gtx 460 1 gb
#1727 [14:03] <Prentice> ok so it is preparing spawn area
#1728 [14:05] <_pg_> FIRESTARTER: what version driver
#1729 [14:05] <Prentice> 2011-03-03 22:55:51 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
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#1733 [14:11] <nipper> Hmm Anyone have a issue with animals? I turned it to false. Then reenabled it but it still wont spawn any. This might be a bug I don't know.
#1734 [14:11] <zw> Is servercraft.co a good rent service? Or can u tell me one you have good experience with?
#1735 [14:11] <nipper> Never herd of them. I just rend a dedi and run my own stuff.
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#1743 [14:11] <Prentice> Lol
#1744 [14:11] <Prentice> nice name GLaDOS
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#1755 [14:16] <CheesePlant> I can't log into my friends server, we've sorted ports we've even tried Hamachi but still cant join eachother server. Is there something wrong?
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#1760 [14:16] <Du_rex> Hi
#1761 [14:17] <Du_rex> I have a problem
#1762 [14:17] <CheesePlant> does server 1.3 work with client 1.3.01?
#1763 [14:17] <CheesePlant> whats your problem?
#1764 [14:17] <Du_rex> I can't run the game
#1765 [14:17] <CheesePlant> Oh
#1766 [14:17] <CheesePlant> what happens?
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#1768 [14:18] <Du_rex> He starts, I give my loggin
#1769 [14:18] <Du_rex> But after he shut the window and say
#1770 [14:18] <CheesePlant> Oh
#1771 [14:18] <Du_rex> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x51efb4c7, pid=3744, tid=1044 # # JRE version: 6.0_24-b07 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.1-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglx1.dll+0x3fb4c7] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: #
#1772 [14:18] <CheesePlant> tried downloading it again?
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#1774 [14:18] <CheesePlant> and are you using the browser or downloaded version?
#1775 [14:19] <Du_rex> I try the two
#1776 [14:19] <CheesePlant> same error on both?
#1777 [14:19] <Du_rex> No
#1778 [14:19] <Du_rex> He run on browser
#1779 [14:19] <Du_rex> But the first time
#1780 [14:20] <Du_rex> I have to refresh the page a lot of time
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#1782 [14:20] <CheesePlant> try reinstall java?
#1783 [14:20] <Du_rex> Do
#1784 [14:21] <CheesePlant> I wish I could connect to my friends multiplayer server :(
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#1786 [14:22] <Du_rex> Java run automatically ?
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#1788 [14:24] <Riddell> hi
#1789 [14:25] <CheesePlant> is it a consistant well known problem that people cant connect to servers?
#1790 [14:25] <Shadow386> can be
#1791 [14:25] <Shadow386> whats the error?
#1792 [14:26] <CheesePlant> it times out
#1793 [14:26] <Shadow386> ports opened and using the right IP?
#1794 [14:26] <CheesePlant> yup
#1795 [14:26] <CheesePlant> even tried using a vpn
#1796 [14:26] <Shadow386> hm
#1797 [14:27] <Shadow386> ports forwarded correctly through the router and opened in the firewall?
#1798 [14:28] <CheesePlant> no firewall running and we've both opened the default port
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#1800 [14:30] <Riddell> could anybody tell me how portals work?
#1801 [14:30] <Shadow386> magic and faries
#1802 [14:31] <CheesePlant> hmm it works over my network - interesting :o
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#1804 [14:34] <CheesePlant> over my network it says disconnect.overflow
#1805 [14:35] <CheesePlant> :(
#1806 [14:36] <CheesePlant> oh well i think we'll have to give up :(
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#1808 [14:43] <Empis_Home> is it only me havnig problem that removing/destroying blocks after the server have been up for a while?
#1809 [14:43] <Empis_Home> they come back after a while
#1810 [14:43] <Empis_Home> *after a secound
#1811 [14:44] <Empis_Home> and a serverrestart fix it, and after some hours we are there again
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#1814 [14:45] <Shadow386> sounds like its using up all the resources
#1815 [14:45] <xales> Empis_Home: sounds like a RAM issue possibly
#1816 [14:45] <Shadow386> servers do need restarts every once in a while
#1817 [14:45] <Empis_Home> xales: hmm oke, it eats 1,5GB of my 2GB
#1818 [14:45] <xales> Empis_Home: is this on a server/VPS or a desktop/workstation
#1819 [14:45] <Empis_Home> VPS
#1820 [14:45] <Empis_Home> got my own esxi
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#1822 [14:46] <Empis_Home> running ubuntu server edition
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#1824 [14:48] <xales> Shadow386: I'm inviting you to a secret channel
#1825 [14:48] <xales> you are going to join it :)
#1826 [14:48] <xales> and say nothing of it
#1827 [14:48] <Shadow386> alrighty
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#1829 [14:48] <Empis_Home> xales: so u have the same problem? or u got tons of ram? :)
#1830 [14:48] <xales> Empis_Home: I don't have the same problem, but then, I don't run a server either :)
#1831 [14:49] <Empis_Home> ah oke
#1832 [14:49] <Empis_Home> got 8GB more ram next month
#1833 [14:49] <Empis_Home> but i need it now it seems, hehe
#1834 [14:52] <CheesePlant> i've been trying to get my friends server running for 2 hours :(
#1835 [14:52] <xales> CheesePlant: say what the issue is and someone can help you, or wait a bit until more people are around
#1836 [14:52] <xales> I'd help if I had time, but gotta go now
#1837 [14:53] <CheesePlant> ok mate thanks anyway :)
#1838 [14:53] <CheesePlant> The error is just Connection timed out: connect - we've sorted ports
#1839 [14:53] <CheesePlant> he can connect via localhost
#1840 [14:53] <CheesePlant> he cant connect to mine either
#1841 [14:54] <CheesePlant> has anyone got multiplayer working since the new version?
#1842 [14:54] <Shadow386> me
#1843 [14:54] <CheesePlant> you didn't do anything fancy like touch the white list?
#1844 [14:54] <Shadow386> I have
#1845 [14:55] <CheesePlant> what did you put in the whitelist?
#1846 [14:55] <Shadow386> just the users I was gonna have whitelisted
#1847 [14:55] <Empis_Home> what ip do the server listen to?
#1848 [14:55] <Shadow386> then turned it off afterwards
#1849 [14:55] <CheesePlant> using their usernames yeah?
#1850 [14:55] <Shadow386> works fine
#1851 [14:55] <Shadow386> yes
#1852 [14:55] <CheesePlant> he added my username and set whitelist to true
#1853 [14:55] <CheesePlant> just to test
#1854 [14:55] <zw> Where would you say the best place to rent a minecraft server is?
#1855 [14:55] <Shadow386> zw lots of places
#1856 [14:55] <zw> Wonder where :S
#1857 [14:56] <Shadow386> I use fehosting but people seem to dislike it because they arent getting 100% perfect service
#1858 [14:56] <zw> Cons/Pron
#1859 [14:56] <Empis_Home> keep in mind that u need tons of ram
#1860 [14:56] <Empis_Home> 2GB isn't enough, trust me :P
#1861 [14:56] <Shadow386> got a server with 8 gigs ram :P
#1862 [14:56] <zw> xenonservers.com / http://servercraft.co
#1863 [14:56] <Shadow386> Empis_Home how many players?
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#1865 [14:56] <Empis_Home> Shadow386: 10-20 sometimes
#1866 [14:57] <Shadow386> 2 gigs is just right for about 15 players
#1867 [14:57] <zw> Shadow from fehosting.com?
#1868 [14:57] <Shadow386> what?
#1869 [14:57] <zw> you have server from fehosting.com ?
#1870 [14:57] <Empis_Home> Shadow386: very small world then
#1871 [14:57] <Shadow386> yes
#1872 [14:57] <zw> How much does it cost?
#1873 [14:57] <Shadow386> Empis_Home meh it all depends how things are operated actually
#1874 [14:57] <zw> for you
#1875 [14:57] <Empis_Home> Shadow386: yup
#1876 [14:57] <Shadow386> zw its a dedicated server with quad core and 8 gigs ram, $80
#1877 [14:58] <zw> I need dedicated server, not virtual? :P
#1878 [14:58] <Empis_Home> a month? fuck :P
#1879 [14:58] <CheesePlant> I would rather use my own pc :s
#1880 [14:58] <Empis_Home> virtual is cheaper i think
#1881 [14:58] <Shadow386> CheesePlant i have a crappy internet
#1882 [14:58] <CheesePlant> even with my name in the whitelist and whitelist set to true i still cant login
#1883 [14:58] <Empis_Home> CheesePlant: what ip are the server listen to?
#1884 [14:58] <Shadow386> Empis_Home dedicated are also dedicated and noone else is running their server on your host
#1885 [14:58] <CheesePlant> can i test trying to log into your server?
#1886 [14:59] <Shadow386> sure, smp.shadow-craft.net
#1887 [14:59] <Empis_Home> Shadow386: yeah but a virtual is always cheaper, and same performence
#1888 [14:59] <CheesePlant> yup yours works lol
#1889 [14:59] <Shadow386> Empis_Home depends on the host, but 50% of the time virtual sucks
#1890 [14:59] <zw> Shadow: http://www.fehosting.com/quad2core.html , the Q9300 2.5GHZ is what you have?
#1891 [14:59] <Shadow386> zw yes, I had a coupon that gave $10 off though
#1892 [14:59] <Shadow386> it expired
#1893 [14:59] <Empis_Home> Shadow386: yeah, we got a own server and running esxi. works fucking good
#1894 [14:59] <Shadow386> what host?
#1895 [14:59] <zw> Shadow386 ah, ok . Is it mysql support?
#1896 [15:00] <Shadow386> dedicated servers usually let you run almost anything on there
#1897 [15:00] <Empis_Home> Shadow386: a local isp, free hosting with 1Gbit :)
#1898 [15:00] <Empis_Home> sponsor
#1899 [15:00] <Shadow386> ah
#1900 [15:00] <Shadow386> I should get sponsors for my craft
#1901 [15:00] <zw> Ah, do the best for me is to rent a dedicated server?
#1902 [15:00] <Empis_Home> :)
#1903 [15:00] <Empis_Home> ... or play on any other server ;)
#1904 [15:00] <Shadow386> dedicated or virtual if you only want it for a small amount of users
#1905 [15:00] <Empis_Home> i shouldnt pay for hosting a server that players are using free
#1906 [15:01] <Shadow386> I have my limit to 40 users on 4 gigs of ram at the moment
#1907 [15:01] <CheesePlant> no idea why his wont work :/
#1908 [15:01] <zw> I got 20 users
#1909 [15:01] <Shadow386> saving the other 4 gigs for another server if I start it up
#1910 [15:01] <Shadow386> just need more xD
#1911 [15:01] <Empis_Home> CheesePlant: answer me, WHAT IP ARE THE SERVER LISTEN TO?!
#1912 [15:01] <zw> Shadow, I use bukkit with plugins
#1913 [15:01] <zw> is that a problem on it?
#1914 [15:01] <Shadow386> CheesePlant in the IP of the properties file, what does it say?
#1915 [15:01] <Shadow386> zw prob not, I use hMod on mine
#1916 [15:01] <CheesePlant> 82.39.25.97 is his ip
#1917 [15:01] <CheesePlant> default port
#1918 [15:02] <Empis_Home> in config?
#1919 [15:02] <Empis_Home> then u got a problem
#1920 [15:02] <Shadow386> in the properties file
#1921 [15:02] <CheesePlant> its blank
#1922 [15:02] <Shadow386> hm
#1923 [15:02] <CheesePlant> inside the properties file its blank
#1924 [15:02] <Empis_Home> try to set it
#1925 [15:02] <Shadow386> then it has to be his router or a firewall
#1926 [15:02] <CheesePlant> cos it causes an issue if its entered in there
#1927 [15:02] <Shadow386> Empis_Home sometimes the best option is leaving it blank
#1928 [15:02] <CheesePlant> we've both added the port and both tried to run a server
#1929 [15:03] <zw> Shadow, so i can just rent a server there, copy my server folder over with FPT and start enjoying?
#1930 [15:03] <Empis_Home> Shadow386: if u got more NIC's it can be nice to set a listen nic/ip
#1931 [15:03] <Shadow386> if you set it up correctly, yes zw
#1932 [15:03] <zw> Ah, cool
#1933 [15:03] <zw> Is it a problem (lagg) that Im in norway?
#1934 [15:03] <Shadow386> Empis_Home but they are running from their home PC and are having issues if they add anything to the line anyways
#1935 [15:03] <Shadow386> zw shouldnt be
#1936 [15:04] <Shadow386> I have people from aus, russia, germany, and england connecting to mine
#1937 [15:04] <Shadow386> only one person has lag and its an IRL friend with a connector issue on their laptop
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#1939 [15:04] <dan2143> hi
#1940 [15:05] <dan2143> how can i connect to server or who I find a server list?
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#1942 [15:05] <zw> Shadow nice, got a code for 10% of there.
#1943 [15:05] <Shadow386> zw kk
#1944 [15:05] <zw> Think i order there just to see how it goes
#1945 [15:05] <Shadow386> dan2143 lots of places with server lists
#1946 [15:05] <zw> or do you have other good sites to sugest?
#1947 [15:05] <Shadow386> and to connect, click multiplayer and add the IP
#1948 [15:06] <Shadow386> zw well theres another place where I hosted for a while, $100 for the same specs, but reliable
#1949 [15:06] <Shadow386> wooservers.com
#1950 [15:06] <CheesePlant> I think im stuck
#1951 [15:06] <dan2143> thx
#1952 [15:06] <Shadow386> also, it would be between 24-72 hour setup for the dedicated since they are burst.net resellers
#1953 [15:06] <Shadow386> CheesePlant with?
#1954 [15:06] <CheesePlant> with not being able to connect to my friends server lol
#1955 [15:07] <Shadow386> well i dunno
#1956 [15:07] <zw> Shadow, but you havent had any problem with your?
#1957 [15:07] <Shadow386> sounds like their router
#1958 [15:07] <CheesePlant> then it could be mine too
#1959 [15:07] <CheesePlant> can someone try join mine?
#1960 [15:07] <Shadow386> zw only once but it was just a space issue with error files cause I installed something wrong
#1961 [15:07] <Shadow386> CheesePlant IP?
#1962 [15:07] <CheesePlant> 77.103.99.201
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#1964 [15:08] <Shadow386> not letting me connect
#1965 [15:08] <Kealper> also
#1966 [15:08] <Shadow386> ports opened and forwarded in your router?
#1967 [15:08] <Kealper> !check 77.103.99.201
#1968 [15:08] <zw> Shadow, then I think I just order now and check it out ^^^
#1969 [15:08] <Shadow386> or that
#1970 [15:08] <Shadow386> zw alright, good luck
#1971 [15:08] <CheesePlant> i've just switched off the white list
#1972 [15:09] <zw> Shadow, ah what OS sould i use?
#1973 [15:09] <Shadow386> if it was whitelisted itd send a whitelist error
#1974 [15:09] <Shadow386> zw anything you are familiar with
#1975 [15:09] <CheesePlant> ah
#1976 [15:09] <zw> 64 bit to dedicate more to java?
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#1978 [15:09] <Shadow386> CheesePlant go to your router config in the browser
#1979 [15:09] <Shadow386> zw if you're comfortable with using it instead of 32bit, then I suggest it
#1980 [15:10] <Shadow386> CentOS 64bit here, people say debian is better though
#1981 [15:10] <CheesePlant> yup
#1982 [15:10] <Shadow386> CheesePlant does it say ports are forwarded to your....hell what was it
#1983 [15:10] <zw> Debian 5 64 bit?
#1984 [15:10] <Shadow386> ipv4?
#1985 [15:10] <Shadow386> zw sure
#1986 [15:10] <zw> im not realy familiar with it ^^ But il test it
#1987 [15:11] <zw> Is it like remote desktop or something? Sorry, but Im very new in this ^^^
#1988 [15:11] <Shadow386> it's ssh, but you can install a remote desktop
#1989 [15:11] <Shadow386> its all linux distros so you might wanna learn a bit first
#1990 [15:11] <zw> ah ok
#1991 [15:11] <zw> i know some linux ^^^
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#1993 [15:11] <zw> use it at work ^^
#1994 [15:11] <Shadow386> alrighty then
#1995 [15:12] <zw> Control Panel?
#1996 [15:12] <Kealper> JeepersCreepersThoseThings: Where'd you get those eyes?
#1997 [15:12] <zw> sould i add something there?
#1998 [15:12] <Shadow386> doesn't matter unless you plan to have a website there as well
#1999 [15:12] <CheesePlant> I'll try running the server with out my router, brb :)
#2000 [15:12] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> my eyes?
#2001 [15:12] <zw> Bandwith, 5000GB is standard, i guess that is enough?
#2002 [15:12] <Shadow386> or if you have extra money
#2003 [15:12] <Shadow386> yep
#2004 [15:13] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> my eyes are all for you
#2005 [15:13] <Shadow386> im using that and im sure i have a shitload left over
#2006 [15:13] <Shadow386> kk CheesePlant
#2007 [15:13] <AG_Scott> JeepersCreepersThoseThings, how'd you get those eyes? :>
#2008 [15:13] <AG_Scott> Oh
#2009 [15:14] <AG_Scott> someone already asked lol.
#2010 [15:14] <Shadow386> lol
#2011 [15:14] <AG_Scott> I'm too scared to watch it again.
#2012 [15:14] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> what are you talking about
#2013 [15:14] <AG_Scott> I don't sleep after watching those kind of movies.
#2014 [15:14] <AG_Scott> Jeepers Creepers?
#2015 [15:14] <AG_Scott> They're movies :P
#2016 [15:14] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> its a quote from the sensored version of the matrix
#2017 [15:14] <AG_Scott> Scary movies that make me want to piss my pants.
#2018 [15:14] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> "jeepers creepers those thigns are real??" when neo gets the worm thing sucked out of his belleh
#2019 [15:15] <Shadow386> movie wasnt that scary :x
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#2021 [15:15] <AG_Scott> It so was.
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#2024 [15:18] <Morrolan> Any dev with some security experience here?
#2025 [15:18] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> did the movie have anything to do with scarecrows?
#2026 [15:18] <AG_Scott> Yes
#2027 [15:18] <Shadow386> Morrolan what are you asking?
#2028 [15:18] <AG_Scott> and crows. and this freaky thing that would take body parts and use them.
#2029 [15:18] <AG_Scott> In the end of the first movie, he stole a guys eyes.
#2030 [15:19] * AG_Scott hyperventilates thinking about it.
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#2032 [15:20] <Morrolan> Well, since the last update Minecraft allows you to pass your username, password and the server to connect to as command line arguments.
#2033 [15:21] <mib_z2wwwr> hi, i am having trouble connecting to multiplayer servers. I think i am having issues finding the right ports
#2034 [15:21] <Shadow386> what about it Morrolan?
#2035 [15:21] <Shadow386> and mib_z2wwwr whats the error/
#2036 [15:21] <mib_z2wwwr> how do i find the right port?
#2037 [15:21] <Shadow386> you ask the server owner?
#2038 [15:22] <mib_z2wwwr> and what if it says server connection failed
#2039 [15:22] <Morrolan> Now if I were to develop an app (external serverbrowser) which allows the user to select a server he wants to play on and, if he entered his username and password beforehand, to connect to it with one click of a button.
#2040 [15:22] <Shadow386> mib_z2wwwr then they dont have their server up
#2041 [15:22] <Morrolan> Would there be any way to store this password securely, so he doesn't need to enter it all the time?
#2042 [15:23] <Morrolan> Since the argument you pass to Minecraft.exe needs to be plain text I can't just store it as a Hash.
#2043 [15:23] <Shadow386> Morrolan it auto-stores password I though?
#2044 [15:23] <mib_z2wwwr> but that happens to me for servers that say they are up 24/7
#2045 [15:23] <Shadow386> thought*
#2046 [15:23] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> Shadow386 hes talking about outside the launcher
#2047 [15:23] <Morrolan> Yeah, exactly. I'd like to launch the launcher externally, passing these arguments.
#2048 [15:23] <Shadow386> mib_z2wwwr then they are probably down for maintenance or something
#2049 [15:24] <Shadow386> Morrolan ah not sure then
#2050 [15:24] <Morrolan> Cause it's obviously no good idea to just store the users password in plain text somewhere on his computer. :/
#2051 [15:25] <Shadow386> perhaps an MD5?
#2052 [15:25] <Shadow386> or salt
#2053 [15:25] <Shadow386> since I believe minecraft uses a salt as it is
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#2055 [15:25] <Morrolan> Yeah, but the issue is that you need to pass the password to the launcher in cleartext.
#2056 [15:25] <Shadow386> perhaps your external program could encrypt then decrypt?
#2057 [15:25] <Tojara> hi can somebody help me i have a problem with starting a server
#2058 [15:25] <Morrolan> You now, you can launch the launcher like this: Minecraft.exe Morrolan passwordhere 192.168.1.1:1337
#2059 [15:26] <Morrolan> Yeah, but how would I store that decryption key then securely?
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#2061 [15:26] <Morrolan> Ah well, I'll just wait until Notch allows us to pass a Hash or similar then I guess. :/
#2062 [15:27] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> it will eventually come i assume
#2063 [15:27] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> the changes to the launcher recently will probably allow him to easily add it in?
#2064 [15:27] <Morrolan> I hope so, since right now it's kinda useless.
#2065 [15:28] <Morrolan> Well, thanks anyway. :)
#2066 [15:28] <Tojara> when i open a server an dthen colse it how can i open the same server aggain
#2067 [15:28] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> for now pass it as plaintext and make a big red note: passwords stored/passed in plaintext
#2068 [15:29] <Morrolan> Just launch it again, Tojara. As long as the world folder is in the same folder as minecraft_server it will load this world.
#2069 [15:29] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> Tojara run the minecraft_server.exe again
#2070 [15:29] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> the server.cfg or whatever will load the same stuff
#2071 [15:29] <Morrolan> Jeepers: Yea, I guess this is how I'll do it.
#2072 [15:29] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> the world name is the folder in which it stores the world (Default is world)
#2073 [15:29] <Tojara> and in which folder has it to be because it s always loading an other new world
#2074 [15:29] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> does not matter, it will create the necessary files in the same folder as it was executed in
#2075 [15:30] <aetherian> arrgh
#2076 [15:30] <aetherian> biiiig name. also, I can't find what I'm looking for with google. darn google.
#2077 [15:30] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> then you can just move those files (theres a bunch that are created on first run, a bunch of .txts, a few other files
#2078 [15:34] <Tojara> it s not working
#2079 [15:37] <aetherian> aurgh, that name messes up my client
#2080 [15:40] * aetherian sighs
#2080 [15:40] <aetherian> can't find a port of zork for the ti-84 ):
#2081 [15:42] <SkiingPenguins> o.O
#2082 [15:42] <aetherian> what? that's a perfectly reasonable thing to google for
#2083 [15:42] <zw> Shadow?
#2084 [15:43] <aetherian> ?
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#2088 [15:52] <CheesePlant> Hello :)
#2089 [15:53] <CheesePlant> I managed to get my server working on my 3rd pc, I can connect to it at least - but my friend cant :o
#2090 [15:54] <Morrolan> Check on www.canyouseeme.org if you've forwarded the ports correctly.
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#2092 [15:55] <CheesePlant> I tried that and it cant see any ports
#2093 [15:55] <CheesePlant> even tho i know they are forwarding for other games
#2094 [15:57] <Morrolan> Well, did you forward any ports?
#2095 [15:57] <CheesePlant> yup
#2096 [15:57] <CheesePlant> I think i'll give up, i've been trying for erm 3 hours now lol
#2097 [15:57] <CheesePlant> and my head hurts
#2098 [15:57] <Morrolan> Kinda strange then. :/ Only thing I could advise you to do is to use Hamachi.
#2099 [15:58] <CheesePlant> tried that too
#2100 [15:58] <Morrolan> Oh.
#2101 [15:58] <Morrolan> Sorry, I suggest you check back later, when for example xales is online, he's much more experienced when it comes to stuff like this.
#2102 [16:00] <CheesePlant> ah cheers anyway pal :)
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#2104 [16:01] <aetherian> wha
#2105 [16:01] <aetherian> nonono
#2106 [16:02] <aetherian> xales is not the guy to ask for advice on home servers, actually.
#2107 [16:02] <aetherian> but CheesePlant, I take it you did forward the ports?
#2108 [16:02] <aetherian> and, also, double checked that
#2109 [16:02] <Shadow386> triple checking never hurt
#2110 [16:03] <CheesePlant> checked it so many times :)
#2111 [16:03] <aetherian> okay
#2112 [16:03] <CheesePlant> even went into the config txt file of my router
#2113 [16:03] <aetherian> and nothing is changed in server.properties?
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#2115 [16:03] <CheesePlant> its definattly yhere
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#2117 [16:04] <CheesePlant> nothing is changed
#2118 [16:04] <jDodson99> Hi
#2119 [16:04] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#2120 [16:04] <CheesePlant> I tried a custom port too just incase
#2121 [16:04] <CheesePlant> still didn't work
#2122 [16:04] <aetherian> and your computer has internet access?
#2123 [16:04] <jDodson99> Does anyone here use OSX?
#2124 [16:04] <aetherian> jDodson99: not really
#2125 [16:04] <CheesePlant> yup its on the internet
#2126 [16:04] <jDodson99> >.<
#2127 [16:04] <aetherian> but we have linux users aplenty
#2128 [16:04] <jDodson99> Hmmm...
#2129 [16:04] <aetherian> CheesePlant: can you connect via localhost?
#2130 [16:05] <jDodson99> Is anyone else getting a "crash after mojang screen" bug?
#2131 [16:05] <CheesePlant> yup
#2132 [16:05] <CheesePlant> I can even connect from another computer on my network
#2133 [16:05] <aetherian> CheesePlant: can you connect via localhost?
#2134 [16:05] <aetherian> ack
#2135 [16:05] <aetherian> dammit
#2136 [16:05] <aetherian> I meant to say, are you using the right ip/
#2137 [16:05] <CheesePlant> yup
#2138 [16:05] <CheesePlant> my friend just read about using skype
#2139 [16:06] <aetherian> what is the ip of it?
#2140 [16:06] <CheesePlant> so turned it off, we'll check theres no conflicty
#2141 [16:06] <aetherian> what is the ip...
#2142 [16:06] <CheesePlant> ah thats true, Shadow386 tried it before
#2143 [16:06] <Shadow386> ?
#2144 [16:07] <jDodson99> *achem* Is anyone else getting a "crash after mojang screen" bug?
#2145 [16:07] <CheesePlant> 82.39.25.97:25565
#2146 [16:08] <aetherian> jDodson99: using any mods?
#2147 [16:08] <CheesePlant> nope that still didn't work :(
#2148 [16:08] <aetherian> cheese, I can't ping that ip
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#2150 [16:09] <jDodson99> Aeth, no
#2151 [16:09] <jDodson99> I'm lower than a noob at modding.
#2152 [16:09] <Kealper> stupid AuBot....
#2153 [16:09] <aetherian> lesee
#2154 [16:09] <Kealper> !load mod_chan
#2155 [16:10] <jDodson99> Was that supposed to do something?
#2156 [16:10] <aetherian> no
#2157 [16:10] <jDodson99> xD
#2158 [16:10] <Kealper> what, what i said?
#2159 [16:10] <aetherian> g2g
#2160 [16:11] <Kealper> that !load command i issued did, AuBot just responds in notices for that stuff so it doesn't spam the channel
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#2162 [16:12] <jDodson99> So I guess no one has any idea why minecraft is crashing after the mojang screen?
#2163 [16:13] <Kealper> jDodson99: you've reinstalled minecraft?
#2164 [16:13] <Kealper> and has it ever worked before?
#2165 [16:13] <Morrolan> jDodson99: Already tried the usual? Updating Java, reinstalling Minecraft etc.?
#2166 [16:13] <jDodson99> Reinstalled?
#2167 [16:13] <jDodson99> It's worked
#2168 [16:13] <jDodson99> I'm on a mac so I can't update java
#2169 [16:13] <jDodson99> But I do have the latest
#2170 [16:13] <Kealper> open the launcher
#2171 [16:13] <jDodson99> I've tried deleting the bin folder if that's what you meant
#2172 [16:13] <Kealper> oh
#2173 [16:13] <Kealper> nvm
#2174 [16:13] <Kealper> any mods?
#2175 [16:14] <CheesePlant> sorry aetherian i think my router stops pings. I've even tried removing my router too and it still doesn't work
#2176 [16:14] <jDodson99> No mods. Everything works fine, it re-downloads the entire bin folder, but once it hits the mojang screen it crashes.
#2177 [16:14] <Kealper> and did this just start happening after the 1.3 update?
#2178 [16:14] <jDodson99> It started happening last night
#2179 [16:14] <jDodson99> I could use it fine for the entire day
#2180 [16:14] <Kealper> hmm...that's quite strange
#2181 [16:15] <Morrolan> Did you try to restore your system to a day it was working?
#2182 [16:15] <jDodson99> But then I took a break, came back, and it would crash on the mojang screen.
#2183 [16:15] <jDodson99> I wasn't aware you could do that...
#2184 [16:15] <Kealper> since i'm not a mac guy...do macs automatically download/install updates?
#2185 [16:15] <Kealper> (might be an update that broke minecraft)
#2186 [16:15] <jDodson99> Not automatically, but it gives you a little popup that says "NEW UPDATES FOR [x application
#2187 [16:15] <jDodson99> ]"
#2188 [16:15] <jDodson99> Is it 1.3_02 yet? XD
#2189 [16:16] <Morrolan> I'm not sure, but I think I've once heard something about it on macs, might want to wait for a mac guy to help you.
#2190 [16:16] <Kealper> safe to assume you didn't just randomly update something?
#2191 [16:16] <CheesePlant> jDodson99 are you running the browser verion?
#2192 [16:16] <Morrolan> Well, I've got to go, sorry. Have a nice evening.
#2193 [16:16] <Kealper> Morrolan: that'd be correct, mac support is flunky right now
#2194 [16:16] <jDodson99> CheesePlant, no I didn't.
#2195 [16:16] <Kealper> try that
#2196 [16:16] <jDodson99> *no i'm not
#2197 [16:16] <jDodson99> The browser version?
#2198 [16:16] <jDodson99> I can hardly ever get that to work
#2199 [16:16] <Kealper> O.o
#2200 [16:17] <jDodson99> Safari hates "unsafe" java
#2201 [16:17] <Kealper> :/
#2202 [16:17] <jDodson99> So it'll always give me a d**kload of "ALLOW THIS PUBLISHER?" popups
#2203 [16:17] <Kealper> tried installing Chrome? they are practically the same thing in a different skin
#2204 [16:17] <jDodson99> Well if it's the same thing why would I use it? xP
#2205 [16:17] <jDodson99> yes I have chrome...
#2206 [16:17] <jDodson99> xD
#2207 [16:17] <Kealper> might not hate java apps as much
#2208 [16:17] <jDodson99> I'll try it on chrome
#2209 [16:17] <SkiingPenguins> nah it doesnt
#2210 [16:18] <jDodson99> Wait a minute...
#2211 [16:18] <jDodson99> I'm not sure if it means anything
#2212 [16:19] <Kealper> it probably does, go on....
#2213 [16:19] <jDodson99> But my java console says "Java Plug-in 1.6.0_22"
#2214 [16:19] <Kealper> ehh....probably not
#2215 [16:19] <jDodson99> I thought Notch had to "downgrade" the java dependencies on 1.6 when beta 1.3 came out?
#2216 [16:19] <jDodson99> There was a similar error back then
#2217 [16:20] <jDodson99> The "crash on singleplayer" bug
#2218 [16:20] <Kealper> not exactly sure what had to be done for 1.3
#2219 [16:20] <Kealper> iirc it was something to do with the new launcher though
#2220 [16:20] <Kealper> but if you see the Mojang logo, you are already getting past the launcher and into the game itself
#2221 [16:20] <jDodson99> Yeah, and the same happened back in 1.3
#2222 [16:20] <Kealper> is there any crashlogs i can feast on?
#2223 [16:21] <jDodson99> Nope
#2224 [16:21] <Kealper> none at all?
#2225 [16:21] <CheesePlant> I think we'll just try find an empty new server lol
#2226 [16:21] <jDodson99> If there are, they're only there for a split second
#2227 [16:21] <Kealper> try launching it through a terminal
#2228 [16:21] <Kealper> it should throw debug info into there
#2229 [16:21] <jDodson99> Mmmmkay.
#2230 [16:21] <ArmEagle> hmm i might have been mistaken about the memory use of the minecraft server(bukkit).. it seems to be limited to 900MB after all. Whatever cause the roughly 500MB of swap use is a mistery to me though
#2231 [16:21] <ArmEagle> crpa wc
#2232 [16:21] <Kealper> lol
#2233 [16:22] <jDodson99> WHAT THE CRAP.
#2234 [16:23] <Kealper> O.o
#2235 [16:23] <jDodson99> No error report in Terminal either
#2236 [16:23] <Kealper> works? lol
#2237 [16:23] <Kealper> O.o
#2238 [16:23] <Kealper> you don't have any antivirus software do you?
#2239 [16:24] <jDodson99> Nope
#2240 [16:24] <Kealper> hmmm.....
#2241 [16:24] <jDodson99> I don't ~require antivirus
#2242 [16:24] <jDodson99> I'm too cautious of a web surfer
#2243 [16:24] <jDodson99> I'm my own antivirus xD
#2244 [16:24] <Kealper> yeah, if you said yes i was going to say that stuff just does more harm than good on a mac
#2245 [16:25] <Kealper> hmm...try checking if you can update your java install....
#2246 [16:26] <Kealper> something might be wrong with your java, and updating it would fix any issues if there was some
#2247 [16:26] <jDodson99> There hasn't been any java updates for a LOOONG time
#2248 [16:26] <jDodson99> *haven't
#2249 [16:26] * Kealper slaps Apple
#2249 [16:26] * jDodson99 slaps Apple
#2249 [16:26] <jDodson99> xD
#2250 [16:26] <Kealper> windows and linux are already up to 1.6.0_24 ._.
#2251 [16:26] <jDodson99> No java updates for Leopard is what I should have said
#2252 [16:27] <jDodson99> But still, Leopard is to Snow Leopard as Vista is to Windows 7
#2253 [16:27] <Kealper> oh....why not update to snow leopard?
#2254 [16:28] <jDodson99> Because my mac's optical drive is effed up and it can't read or burn CDs
#2255 [16:28] <Kealper> :/
#2256 [16:28] <jDodson99> I was thinking there was an online upgrade package that I could get, I may do that
#2257 [16:28] <CheesePlant> Good night guys, thanks for trying to help :)
#2258 [16:28] * Kealper waves
#2258 [16:28] <jDodson99> But if there is I'm probably just going to wait for Lion (the next OS, coming out this summer)
#2259 [16:28] * jDodson99 waves as well
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#2260 [16:29] <Shadow386> lol macs
#2261 [16:30] <Shadow386> you crazy foo
#2262 [16:30] <Kealper> well....i'm afraid i've exausted my support knowledge for macs....i'm out of ideas :/
#2263 [16:30] <Kealper> why so much OS hate ._.
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#2265 [16:31] <jDodson99> Because currently, they suck more than a vacuum.
#2266 [16:31] <jDodson99> Steve Jobs is having a little greedy fit >.<
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#2275 [16:32] <Kealper> oh boy.....i smell a netsplit soon.....
#2276 [16:32] <Kealper> !unload mod_bot
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#2279 [16:33] <Shadow386> okay, what'd i miss from that netspli
#2280 [16:33] <Shadow386> netsplit*
#2281 [16:33] <Kealper> it wasn't a real netsplit yet
#2282 [16:33] <Kealper> whatever server that is is having connection problems again...and is probably going to split soon :/
#2283 [16:34] <Shadow386> well in any case
#2284 [16:34] <Shadow386> macs are picky and apple is greedy
#2285 [16:34] <Shadow386> :3
#2286 [16:34] <Kealper> all OSes have their downsides, but it's bad form to OS-bash :/
#2287 [16:34] <Shadow386> dont mean to >_>
#2288 [16:35] <Shadow386> i just dislike macs is all for their complexity and trying to change how PC's have worked for the longest time ^^
#2289 [16:35] <Kealper> meh
#2290 [16:35] <_pg_> Shadow386: you hate macs. we get it/
#2291 [16:36] <Shadow386> in any case, I do like macs for their graphics
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#2293 [16:36] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
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#2295 [16:36] <jDodson99> Macs are purdy, but annoying as crap to update.
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#2297 [16:36] <Kealper> inb4 real netsplit and AuBot floods itself out with MOTD spam on netjoin
#2298 [16:37] <jDodson99> xD
#2299 [16:37] <Shadow386> thatd be badddd
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#2301 [16:37] <Kealper> !uptime
#2302 [16:37] <Kealper> meh....nb
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#2304 [16:43] <ngc0202> is there any way to regenerate a chunk?
#2305 [16:43] <ngc0202> and have it fit in with the rest of the world
#2306 [16:43] <ngc0202> the surrounding chunks rly
#2307 [16:44] <ngc0202> say my name on response
#2308 [16:44] <gothroach> ngc0202: If you save the state of the chunk before changing it, you can paste it back in.
#2309 [16:45] <ngc0202> i dont have it
#2310 [16:45] <ngc0202> a chunk is all messed up
#2311 [16:45] <ngc0202> its a massive cliff
#2312 [16:45] <ngc0202> over the clouds
#2313 [16:45] <gothroach> Then there's no way that I'm aware of to regenerate a chunk and have it match the surrounding area.
#2314 [16:45] <ngc0202> from a sea level ocean
#2315 [16:45] <ngc0202> D:
#2316 [16:45] <ngc0202> would it be bad
#2317 [16:46] <ngc0202> if i copied a chunk next to it
#2318 [16:46] <ngc0202> and renamed it to that?
#2319 [16:46] <ngc0202> how does that work
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#2323 [16:47] <ngc0202> how do I know which file it is
#2324 [16:47] <ngc0202> and is each file 1 chunk?
#2325 [16:47] <Kealper> the new format makes that quite hard
#2326 [16:47] <ngc0202> aw k
#2327 [16:48] <ngc0202> cuz i really hate the massive cliff
#2328 [16:48] <icy_miner> looking for some one who is / has used ubuntu 10.4 as a minecraft server
#2329 [16:48] <Kealper> but theoritically,any land that you delete will regenerate exactly as it was supposed to look
#2330 [16:48] <ngc0202> as it was supposed to look?
#2331 [16:48] <Kealper> icy_miner: what sort of help did you need? i can provide basic linux help
#2332 [16:48] <SinZ> as it originaly generated ngc0202
#2333 [16:48] <Kealper> ngc0202: well, as the seed says it should look
#2334 [16:48] <sqft> According to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Furnace , one can use Wood Planks as fuel, however, placing a Woodplank below the flame symbol does not start the process like Coal would. Is there something I missed?
#2335 [16:48] <ngc0202> ohhh that works
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#2337 [16:49] <icy_miner> Keapler : http://pastebin.com/Hdaf8GEt
#2338 [16:49] <icy_miner> i thought it was a permissions issue but root canot acces it either
#2339 [16:50] <ngc0202> sqft: works for me...
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#2341 [16:50] <RF> chmod ?
#2342 [16:50] <wwdocp> can someone help me please trying to play minecraft classic multiplayer and i get something saying switching applet then i get a black screen
#2343 [16:50] <xolotl> sqft: Yeah, it should work fine. Are you using any mods?
#2344 [16:50] <wwdocp> nope no mods
#2345 [16:51] <xolotl> sqft: (Also, turning wood logs into Charcoal first is a more efficient way to get fuel)
#2346 [16:51] <sqft> No mods. Just Beta 1.3_01.
#2347 [16:51] <wwdocp> can someone help me please trying to play minecraft classic multiplayer and i get something saying switching applet then i get a black screen
#2348 [16:51] <sqft> xolotl: isn't burning woodplanks by means of woodplanks the way to get charcoal?
#2349 [16:51] <Kealper> icy_miner: uhh...are you sure that the jar is there?
#2350 [16:51] <sqft> ah hm I guess I need raw wood!
#2351 [16:51] <ngc0202> u cant burn woodplanks, thats why
#2352 [16:51] <xolotl> sqft: No, you burn logs to get charcoal
#2353 [16:51] <ngc0202> burn as nonfuel i mean
#2354 [16:52] <xolotl> sqft: (the fuel you use to burn them doesn't actually matter)
#2355 [16:52] <icy_miner> yes sir
#2356 [16:52] <icy_miner> ls returns its there
#2357 [16:52] <sqft> thanks for the thoughts :)
#2358 [16:52] <wwdocp> are my messeges going threw
#2359 [16:52] <Kealper> try chmod 777 on it?
#2360 [16:53] <wwdocp> let me know if anyone can see my messeges
#2361 [16:53] <Kealper> wwdocp: rawr?
#2362 [16:53] <wwdocp> what
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#2364 [16:53] <Kealper> wwdocp: has minecraft worked for you before?
#2365 [16:54] <wwdocp> yes it has the beta works fine the classic all i get is a black screen
#2366 [16:55] <Kealper> that's quite unusual....
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#2368 [16:55] <Kealper> i have no idea why beta would work but classic wouldn't...classic is far less picky than beta..
#2369 [16:55] <wwdocp> says minecraft switching applet then goes to black screen
#2370 [16:56] <ngc0202> so how would I delete a specific chunk?
#2371 [16:56] <ngc0202> in server btw
#2372 [16:56] <Kealper> ngc0202: there was a contorted system of evilness you could follow to do that with the last level format....no idea how you would do it now
#2373 [16:57] <Kealper> wwdocp: as far as your error goes...i'm not sure what would cause that....have you tried the usual reinstall java?
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#2375 [16:59] <wwdocp> deleted java and minecraft data reinstalled it all but nothing
#2376 [17:00] <ngc0202> D:
#2377 [17:00] <ngc0202> ok
#2378 [17:00] <ngc0202> gonna spend an hour TNTing it then lol
#2379 [17:00] <Kealper> ngc0202: you make that sound like it's not going to be fun :o
#2380 [17:01] <ngc0202> haha
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#2382 [17:02] <Kealper> wwdocp: yeah, not much i can say aside from do you have any antivirus software?
#2383 [17:02] <wwdocp> yea i do
#2384 [17:02] <Kealper> which?
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#2386 [17:02] <wwdocp> kaspersky
#2387 [17:02] <Kealper> hmm....try disabling it and give the game another shot
#2388 [17:03] <wwdocp> but i used it on 2 computers 1 without the antivirus and still don't work
#2389 [17:04] <Kealper> so your have that issue on multiple computer?
#2390 [17:04] <Kealper> computers&
#2391 [17:04] <Kealper> *
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#2393 [17:08] <wwdocp> yes i do
#2394 [17:08] <espasmato> can i ask for help that isnt directly minecraft help...?
#2395 [17:08] <espasmato> lol
#2396 [17:08] <Kealper> hmm...that sounds like it might be something like it being blocked or restricted on your network....
#2397 [17:09] <Kealper> espasmato: sure?
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#2399 [17:09] <espasmato> im trying to use omen and i have minecraft-server.jar in the same folder
#2400 [17:09] <espasmato> but it wont save .dat files...
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#2402 [17:09] <Kealper> i've never actually used Omen, so i'm not sure how to use it, or where to even send you for help on that :/
#2403 [17:10] <espasmato> well anyone here use omen?
#2404 [17:10] <Kealper> most everyone in here plays minecraft beta :/
#2405 [17:11] <espasmato> i play minecraft beta too
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#2407 [17:11] <Kealper> O.o
#2408 [17:11] <Kealper> Omen is a map editor for classic maps...
#2409 [17:11] <espasmato> ah
#2410 [17:11] <espasmato> thats why.
#2411 [17:11] <espasmato> but still...
#2412 [17:11] <espasmato> it should be able to save .dat lol
#2413 [17:11] <curmet> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=202209&p=2920834#p2920834
#2414 [17:11] <Kealper> and minecraft-server.jar is what the classic server is called ._.
#2415 [17:11] <curmet> Please help!
#2416 [17:12] <espasmato> its for the beta too Kealper
#2417 [17:12] <espasmato> isnt it
#2418 [17:12] <espasmato> oh weeell
#2419 [17:13] <curmet> Can anyone help me?
#2420 [17:13] <Kealper> curmet: have you tried installing the latest graphics drivers?
#2421 [17:13] <curmet> I dont know how.
#2422 [17:13] <curmet> ITs on Ubuntu 10.10
#2423 [17:14] <Kealper> you're on your own on that....i'm the windows tech support guy in here, not the linux one :/
#2424 [17:14] <curmet> D=
#2425 [17:15] <Kealper> have you tried getting the latest java?
#2426 [17:15] <AG_Scott> curmet, have you installed sun java or are you using what it comes with (openjdk)?
#2427 [17:16] <Kealper> curmet: why not follow the steps that people are telling you on that forum post? they say exactly how to update your drivers
#2428 [17:16] <curmet> Erm... No.
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#2430 [17:16] <curmet> I'm using moth.
#2431 [17:16] <curmet> both*
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#2437 [17:19] <Kealper> well....since i suck at linux....and have a personal hatred towards ubuntu (it abused me :O)....i'm going afk
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#2439 [17:20] <curmet> Bye.
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#2441 [17:29] <wwdocp> so nobody here to help me with the black screen
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#2443 [17:30] <curmet> WOOT!!
#2444 [17:30] <curmet> I got it working!
#2445 [17:30] <curmet> WWDocp what OS are you on?
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#2448 [17:36] <Pulec> hello
#2449 [17:37] <Pulec> what am i doing wrong? all my renders using mcmap or pixelmap are unreadable pngs, any way to crunch them or read them?
#2450 [17:37] <Pulec> http://majncraft.cz/topdown.png working made with old cartograph
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#2452 [17:37] <Pulec> http://majncraft.cz/newonly.png done with pixelmap not readable
#2453 [17:38] <Pulec> and one made with mcmap still uploading
#2454 [17:38] <Pulec> i saw somewhere running mcmap with -pngcrunch parameter, but could not find any more info, any help?
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#2456 [17:45] <BarryCarlyon> PNGcrush can be handy, but just increase rendering time in the grand scheme of things.
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#2461 [17:57] <wwdocp> windows 7
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#2463 [17:59] <wartech0> Hello is anyone having issues with extreme lag when playing on multiplayer servers
#2464 [18:00] <wartech0> I have a up to date Java 6
#2465 [18:00] <wartech0> and it lags on all the servers and its not a graphics lag its more a network lag
#2466 [18:01] <wartech0> anyway here is the post I have more detail in it http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=207016
#2467 [18:02] <BarryCarlyon> wartech0: there are many reports on that at the moment.
#2468 [18:02] <wartech0> So its just a bug then?
#2469 [18:02] <wartech0> because it happened right after the 1.3 update
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#2471 [18:07] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> are you having rubber banding?
#2472 [18:08] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> where you advance, then seconds later you are sprung back to where you were seconds ago
#2473 [18:08] <oldtopman> A little bit.
#2474 [18:08] <wartech0> yes
#2475 [18:08] <wartech0> sometimes
#2476 [18:08] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> thats what network lag does in minecraft
#2477 [18:08] <wartech0> but chat is always slow
#2478 [18:08] <oldtopman> I run my game locally so Conseider my network speed that of megabit.
#2479 [18:09] <wartech0> blocks won't update
#2480 [18:09] <wartech0> I have 3.2 mbprs
#2481 [18:09] <wartech0> mbps*
#2482 [18:09] <wartech0> internet
#2483 [18:09] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> strange, but it looks like others are having the same issue?
#2484 [18:09] <wartech0> yes I think its just a bug right now
#2485 [18:09] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> try updating network card drivers?
#2486 [18:10] <oldtopman> Ping your server (whatever you type into the multi: box minus the port)
#2487 [18:10] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> none of the users on my server are complaining about it, but i'll ask them specifically
#2488 [18:10] <wartech0> Well Jeepers it started right after the update
#2489 [18:10] <oldtopman> "ping <ip address>"
#2490 [18:10] <wartech0> oldtopman I did
#2491 [18:10] <oldtopman> What's the latency (ms)
#2492 [18:10] <wartech0> 160ms average latency
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#2494 [18:11] <wartech0> 172ms just pinged it
#2495 [18:11] <oldtopman> 1.3mc avg latency and it still happens occasionally.
#2496 [18:11] <wartech0> 0 packet loss on 4 packets
#2497 [18:11] <XLilCasper> I am having an issue with my linux server I am setting up. The server starts up, runs for just a few moments (no errors) and then quits. Is there a log anywhere I can get more information to see why it's quiting
#2498 [18:11] <wartech0> well it didn't do this before
#2499 [18:12] <oldtopman> XLilCasper: How much ram does it have?
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#2501 [18:12] <XLilCasper> 1 gig dedicated 2 burst
#2502 [18:12] <oldtopman> How are you starting it, what distro?
#2503 [18:13] <XLilCasper> bash script, Ubuntu server 10.10
#2504 [18:13] <XLilCasper> this is the line in the bash script java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar nogui
#2505 [18:13] <oldtopman> Try just double-clicking it.
#2506 [18:13] <XLilCasper> I have also tried with just minecraft.jar
#2507 [18:14] <oldtopman> Try it without mods first. Does it work then?
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#2510 [18:15] <LilCasper> gaw I hate my connection sometimes
#2511 [18:15] <whidgle> I can't log into the multiplayer servers
#2512 [18:15] <whidgle> Anyone else experiencing these issues?
#2513 [18:16] <whidgle> Anyone at all?
#2514 [18:16] <wartech0> yes whidgle
#2515 [18:16] <wartech0> I can log in but I lag
#2516 [18:16] <oldtopman> I can connect to my local one
#2517 [18:16] <whidgle> Yeah, I attempt a log in
#2518 [18:16] <whidgle> but nothing loads
#2519 [18:16] <whidgle> the screen just stays black
#2520 [18:17] <LilCasper> gaw I hate my connection sometimes
#2521 [18:18] <oldtopman> xlilcasper: WHat's wrong with it?
#2522 [18:19] <xlilcasper> my home connection? Not sure, ISP can't figure out why it keeps dropping, but I"m getting free service until they do so...
#2523 [18:19] <xlilcasper> as for my minecraft server I'm not sure, it runs for about 30 seconds then drops me back to a prompt
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#2525 [18:19] <whidgle> Hm
#2526 [18:20] <xlilcasper> Now the same server/files run fine on my windows box
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#2528 [18:22] <xlilcasper> wait, just got an error this time saying it couldn't allocate memory, should I pastbin it?
#2529 [18:22] <wartech0> it can't allocate memory
#2530 [18:22] <whidgle> Hm
#2531 [18:22] <whidgle> this sucks
#2532 [18:23] <wartech0> Is it bad on whidgle
#2533 [18:23] <whidgle> Yeah
#2534 [18:23] <whidgle> I attempt to log in to a classic server
#2535 [18:23] <xlilcasper> http://pastebin.com/Hnxhm9gQ
#2536 [18:23] <whidgle> and there is no attempt for a log in
#2537 [18:23] <whidgle> doesn't process at all
#2538 [18:23] <wartech0> Does it do it in single player whidgle
#2539 [18:24] <wartech0> Well does it lag or not start
#2540 [18:24] <whidgle> Let me check
#2541 [18:24] <whidgle> No, doesn't start
#2542 [18:24] <whidgle> let me check
#2543 [18:24] <whidgle> Same problem is occurring w/single player
#2544 [18:25] <whidgle> The loading black screen appears
#2545 [18:25] <whidgle> but nothing loads
#2546 [18:25] <whidgle> no start up
#2547 [18:25] <whidgle> like an ignored command
#2548 [18:25] <wartech0> what operating system?
#2549 [18:25] <whidgle> Windows 7
#2550 [18:26] <whidgle> Just tried Beta
#2551 [18:26] <wartech0> crtl alt delete and check your processes and see if javaw is in there
#2552 [18:26] <whidgle> it works
#2553 [18:26] <whidgle> but I need classic to work
#2554 [18:26] <whidgle> ok
#2555 [18:26] <whidgle> Give me a moment
#2556 [18:26] <wartech0> oh you need classic to work umm wait what jre do you have installed?
#2557 [18:26] <xlilcasper> is this really a ram issue? I can upgrade to 2 gigs ram (3 burst) but it's twices as much. I'll do it though if it fixes the problem
#2558 [18:27] <wartech0> umm maybe xlilcasper I don't see why it would need that much though
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#2560 [18:27] <blinky> Back
#2561 [18:27] <blinky> logged out because firefox quit responding
#2562 [18:28] <blinky> when I tried to load classic
#2563 [18:28] <blinky> Let me try again
#2564 [18:28] <wartech0> cannot allocate memory I guess would mean that it couldn't set aside a part of memory for the server to run on
#2565 [18:28] <blinky> Right now it's working, but that may be luck
#2566 [18:29] <blinky> I'm going to have to retry a few times
#2567 [18:29] <blinky> Retried.
#2568 [18:29] <blinky> Stopped working
#2569 [18:30] <blinky> It seems that whenever I haven't logged in awhile, it works but leads to a server full
#2570 [18:30] <blinky> and retries after that end in the server not even loading
#2571 [18:30] <blinky> Any thoughts?
#2572 [18:31] <blinky> Oh
#2573 [18:31] <blinky> and I have
#2574 [18:31] <blinky> a Java.exe
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#2576 [18:31] <blinky> item running
#2577 [18:31] <blinky> 2 of them
#2578 [18:31] <blinky> Java.exe *32
#2579 [18:33] <blinky> Hm
#2580 [18:33] <blinky> Damn
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#2582 [18:34] <mib_477a2c> Hello?
#2583 [18:35] <mib_477a2c> I've been wokring on setting this server up for my friends and i for the majority of today.
#2584 [18:35] <mib_477a2c> I was really hoping you could help me with this recurring issue?
#2585 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> What issue?
#2586 [18:36] <blinky> People can't connect to the classic servers, apparently
#2587 [18:36] <mib_477a2c> I continue to get the following: (Kicking <my ip> invalid name) or something very similar.
#2588 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#2589 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_477a2c - What kind of server did you want to run?
#2590 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> The free classic "creative" one, where everybody has all the blocks, no crafting/mobs...
#2591 [18:37] <mib_477a2c> I prefer survival
#2592 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Or the beta one
#2593 [18:37] <mib_477a2c> beta plocks
#2594 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> What are you starting the server with? start-server.bat, or minecraft_server?
#2595 [18:38] <mib_477a2c> start-server.bat
#2596 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Right, the start-server.bat is the classic server.
#2597 [18:38] <mib_477a2c> figures
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#2599 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to delete those files, redownload the beta server files from th
#2600 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> th
#2601 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> ba
#2602 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2603 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> There
#2604 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> damn clipboard wouldn't copy my link
#2605 [18:39] <mib_477a2c> thanks very much will be coming back if i need more help
#2606 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#2607 [18:39] <mib_477a2c> any way i can thank you?
#2608 [18:39] <mib_477a2c> like the thumbs up on youtube
#2609 [18:39] <mib_477a2c> xD
#2610 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Heh, nope, this is old-school IRC, no rep here
#2611 [18:40] <mib_477a2c> psshh
#2612 [18:40] <mib_477a2c> thanks again
#2613 [18:40] * GreyVulpine nods
#2613 [18:44] <wartech0> GreyVulpine you could make a bot that could track rep lol
#2614 [18:45] <mib_477a2c> ok so im not sure if its doing the right thing it keeps doing the same two lines over and over
#2615 [18:45] <BarryCarlyon> karma :-D
#2616 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Nah, we already know the channel operators here have earned their ops. the voiced people here are recognized
#2617 [18:45] <oldtopman> I am recognised1
#2618 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_477a2c - What lines?
#2619 [18:45] <mib_477a2c> jg.a and b
#2620 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's usually not right
#2621 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy the contents of that log, and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#2622 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> give us the URL
#2623 [18:46] <wartech0> Got to love pastebin
#2624 [18:47] <mib_477a2c> it doesnt like that at allllll
#2625 [18:47] <mib_477a2c> froze maybe?
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#2627 [18:47] <XLilCasper> gaw this connection is ticking me off
#2628 [18:47] <wartech0> You said it was local right?
#2629 [18:48] <wartech0> To XlilCasper
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#2631 [18:48] <XLilCasper> the connection issues are local
#2632 [18:48] <XLilCasper> the server is remote
#2633 [18:48] <wartech0> Oh okay can you connect to the server?
#2634 [18:49] <XLilCasper> yeah, if I start it and connect really quick, but it only stays running for about 30 seconds
#2635 [18:49] <wartech0> Because I can connect to other servers but I can't play the game its just extreme net lag
#2636 [18:49] <XLilCasper> the server is dropping back to command prompt
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#2639 [18:49] <wartech0> Did you generate a world XLilCasper?
#2640 [18:50] <XLilCasper> yes
#2641 [18:50] <mib_477a2c> it was repeating "generating new server.properties" then above that it said: at jb.a (sourcefile: 29)
#2642 [18:50] <XLilCasper> the same files run on my windows box, I'm thinking it is something related to the linux serer
#2643 [18:50] <XLilCasper> I am now getting an error on launch though.
#2644 [18:50] <wartech0> hmm thats weird because my friend runs a GNU/Linux server and it runs fine
#2645 [18:51] <wartech0> I mean I guess it would depend highly on your version of linux you said ubuntu right?
#2646 [18:52] <XLilCasper> yeah
#2647 [18:53] <wartech0> hmm I don't know what version he is running
#2648 [18:53] <XLilCasper> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
#2649 [18:53] <wartech0> Java up to date?
#2650 [18:54] <XLilCasper> yes, let me get you the version
#2651 [18:54] <XLilCasper> java version "1.6.0_21"
#2652 [18:54] <XLilCasper> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_21-b06)
#2653 [18:54] <XLilCasper> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 17.0-b16, mixed mode)
#2654 [18:54] <mib_477a2c> grey you there?
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#2656 [18:55] <Onnestayb> Hello?
#2657 [18:55] <wartech0> hmm I have java version 1.6.0_24 I think
#2658 [18:55] <mib_477a2c> HELLO
#2659 [18:56] <wartech0> mib have you got the log yet?
#2660 [18:56] <Onnestayb> Hey whenever I start MC up i get a Fatal Error 2:Null message, im on Mac OSX 10.5.8 and java is up to dat as far as I can tell
#2661 [18:56] <mib_477a2c> uuhhhh
#2662 [18:56] <mib_477a2c> u cant?
#2663 [18:56] <mib_477a2c> i cant****?
#2664 [18:56] <wartech0> your running it from start.bat right
#2665 [18:57] <mib_477a2c> it was repeating "generating new server.properties" then above that it said: at jb.a (sourcefile: 29)
#2666 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_477a2c - try closing the server, then running it again
#2667 [18:57] <mib_477a2c> o-o
#2668 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> When it's finished, it should say something like Done.
#2669 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> When you run the server for the first time, it generates additional files
#2670 [18:58] <XLilCasper> me? no from command line
#2671 [18:58] <mib_477a2c> how fast should it be when im just running it on my home computer?
#2672 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_477a2c - Depends, usually a few seconds
#2673 [18:58] <wartech0> That depends on your processing speed
#2674 [18:58] <mib_477a2c> i believe it was 3.1 grzggzhz
#2675 [18:58] <mib_477a2c> xD
#2676 [18:59] <wartech0> that should be quick did it work?
#2677 [19:00] <mib_477a2c> it workedthat time
#2678 [19:00] <mib_477a2c> i ran it incompatability mode
#2679 [19:01] <mib_477a2c> windows xp sp 2
#2680 [19:01] <mib_477a2c> lol
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#2682 [19:02] <wartech0> hmmm does anyone know if hmod is a full server or a server mod?
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#2685 [19:06] <collinqt> Got a question for anyone here, if someone comes on your server and griefs is there a way to report them to the minecraft people to get their accounts banned?
#2686 [19:06] <mib_477a2c> btw i got my server up and running for myself
#2687 [19:07] <mib_477a2c> waiting to test if others can get on
#2688 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> collinqt - Nope
#2689 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> wartech0 - hmod is a server mod, but has been discontinued for a while
#2690 [19:07] <collinqt> Wow thats so dumb, do they even have plans to do that?
#2691 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> ... it's up to the server admin to police their server
#2692 [19:08] <collinqt> Well they just set fire to a HUGE boat that took 2 weeks to build, while we watched it burn i banned the person, no way to get their account baned for something horrible they did, thats just stupid
#2693 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#2694 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> That's kinda the risk you run with a public server
#2695 [19:09] <mib_477a2c> is there a way to rollback?
#2696 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Only if you keep constant backups
#2697 [19:09] <wartech0> only if you back
#2698 [19:09] <wartech0> lol
#2699 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Many people run third-party mods to nerf fire/lava/tnt in public servers
#2700 [19:10] <wartech0> took the words right out of my mouth
#2701 [19:10] <collinqt> IS there any way to make the server so new people cant come on and destroy or build?
#2702 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes, with mods
#2703 [19:10] <mib_477a2c> i would just ban the use of all 2
#2704 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Right now, the most popular one is called bukkit.. check #bukkit for more info
#2705 [19:10] <wartech0> GreyVulpine I was looking through the source code of hmod
#2706 [19:11] <wartech0> is bukkit better?
#2707 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Until an official modding API is released for minecraft, the devs who previously made hmod, are working on bukkit.
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#2709 [19:11] <wartech0> does it provide a source?
#2710 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> They got fed up with the head dude of hmod, and made their own
#2711 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2712 [19:11] <wartech0> Sweet I will just do bukkit then
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#2714 [19:11] <wartech0> I wanted to see if I couldn't maybe make a gameplay mod
#2715 [19:11] <wartech0> but would I also have to modify the client?
#2716 [19:12] <XLilCasper> well I think the issue is the vps isn't let me allocate more then the 1 gig of ram for a single process. Upgrading the service to 2 gig dedicated
#2717 [19:13] <mib_477a2c> im constantly vomiting on the inside :]
#2718 [19:14] <wartech0> oh are they are going to do client side and server side modding later?
#2719 [19:14] <wartech0> the bukkit people that is
#2720 [19:15] <Onnestayb> I have an issue too
#2721 [19:15] <XLilCasper> bukkit is great, using it on my server
#2722 [19:15] <Onnestayb> whenever I start MC up i get a Fatal Error 2:Null message, im on Mac OSX 10.5.8 and java is up to date as far as I can tell, which is the only solution ive found online. Ideas?
#2723 [19:16] <oldtopman> Can bukkit do motd's?
#2724 [19:17] <wartech0> I am pretty sure you can program it
#2725 [19:17] <wartech0> or download a plugin if your not any good with java
#2726 [19:17] <Onnestayb> Anyone? this seems like it should have a fix if it's a numbered error
#2727 [19:18] <wartech0> I don't like the Null message part Onnestayb
#2728 [19:18] <lemon-rev> onnestayb did you manage to like start mc so you got all the files orgionally before this error ocurd and is this the first time useing mc
#2729 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Onnestayb - Try a reinstall
#2730 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/reinst
#2731 [19:19] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2732 [19:19] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2733 [19:19] <Onnestayb> Yeah i started, it updated i made a new world it crashed i restarted and this happened
#2734 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Remember to save the 'saves' folder inside minecraft
#2735 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> before you delete it
#2736 [19:20] <lemon-rev> soudns like a currupt world to me
#2737 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#2738 [19:20] <wartech0> well if that is the case I don't think you would want to save the saves folder
#2739 [19:20] <lemon-rev> onnestayb create a new world and see if you still get the same error
#2740 [19:20] <wartech0> would you?
#2741 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Just in case
#2742 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> You'll delete the minecraft folder, move the saves folder elsewhere, so that when you launch minecraft, it'll download fresh files
#2743 [19:21] <Onnestayb> I cant create a new world it dosent start anymore just goes straight to the error
#2744 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> See if it launches, start.
#2745 [19:21] <lemon-rev> wartech0 would you just read and like keep quite unless you have something helpfull to offer
#2746 [19:21] * GreyVulpine baps lemon-rev
#2746 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Easy
#2747 [19:21] <Onnestayb> im working on the fix Voxle said
#2748 [19:22] <wartech0> Sorry lemon-rev
#2749 [19:22] <lemon-rev> ok
#2750 [19:22] <lemon-rev> :)
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#2752 [19:22] <wartech0> I guess it was kinda of rude of me to bump in like that
#2753 [19:22] <lemon-rev> grey what about deling the bin file /?? you think that would help
#2754 [19:23] <Onnestayb> looks like its gonna work
#2755 [19:23] <digger191> so i just bought the game but i cant run the exr file and the in broswer in just black what to do?
#2756 [19:23] <Onnestayb> its updating this time
#2757 [19:23] <lemon-rev> its not bump in like what you did, its what you had said if it was ment to be sicastic or something i didnt see it thats all if it was ment to be
#2758 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Okay Onnestayb. Once you can confirm it works, move the saves folder back
#2759 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> See if the error pops back up, if it does, you'll know it's a corrupt save
#2760 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Bah, gotta run
#2761 [19:24] <lemon-rev> k
#2762 [19:24] <wartech0> oh no it was no sarcasm
#2763 [19:24] <lemon-rev> digger191 reinstall java
#2764 [19:24] <digger191> ok ill try that
#2765 [19:24] <wartech0> maybe you could help me with my problem lemon-rev
#2766 [19:24] <wartech0> I join a minecraft server and it is extreme net lag
#2767 [19:25] <lemon-rev> trouble is i have no help with osx but , i can only help as far as what i have seen others with the same type prob but ill try
#2768 [19:25] <wartech0> I have a updated version of java version 1.6_24
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#2770 [19:25] <wartech0> Window's 7 and it happened right after the 1.3 update
#2771 [19:25] <wartech0> of the minecraft client
#2772 [19:26] <lemon-rev> wartech0 java has nothing to do with lag well it does but the server could have not enough internet speed to reach you correctly thats why your getting massive lagg you could try it with someone closer
#2773 [19:26] <Onnestayb> YAY! It worked, you all are amazing!
#2774 [19:26] <jwshields> I can't get my Minecraft server to run, everytime I start it I get an error, what do I do? http://jwshields.pastebin.com/jLmFpgM0
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#2776 [19:26] <wartech0> hmm lemon-rev but it happens on all servers
#2777 [19:26] <kdigger191> java worked thxs
#2778 [19:27] <lemon-rev> well then dont go for being on a sever wartech0 atm its beta which means its not finnish nor does it mean connections will be fab like most games yea
#2779 [19:27] <lemon-rev> np 191
#2780 [19:27] <wartech0> well thats what I figured
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#2782 [19:28] <wartech0> I just figured it was a bug for right now
#2783 [19:28] <wartech0> I was just wondering if the bug has been known or not
#2784 [19:29] <wartech0> let me try to run a local server real quick and see if that helps
#2785 [19:29] <lemon-rev> hm
#2786 [19:29] <Crazy> Is there a list of public servers somewhere?
#2787 [19:30] <lemon-rev> it will seem ok to you if you have to ram wartech but as far as the bug being known yes well and truly
#2788 [19:30] <kermit> hey i just set up the beta server, why does it have to generate anew properties file everytime it starts up?
#2789 [19:31] <Kade> it shouldn't
#2790 [19:31] <lemon-rev> jwshields error i dont know wtf you have done
#2791 [19:32] <kermit> mmmkay...
#2792 [19:32] <jwshields> lemon-rev, I installed debian, installed java, ran minecraft
#2793 [19:33] <kermit> so i have the .exe version and it runs fine(i can connect) but my friend in canada cant?
#2794 [19:33] <jwshields> kermit, are your ports forwarded?
#2795 [19:33] <kermit> i dont know which ones i need
#2796 [19:33] <jwshields> forward port 25565 to your computer from your router
#2797 [19:34] <kermit> is that all that could be the problem?
#2798 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> probably.
#2799 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> also, hi kids
#2800 [19:34] <bacon> HI MR DOPE
#2801 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#2802 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> No need to shout; the acoustics in here are fine.
#2803 [19:36] <oldtopman> ...
#2804 [19:36] * oldtopman sings at such a high voice, DopeGhoti's eardrums shatter.
#2804 [19:36] <kermit> if by fine you mean nonexistant :D
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#2806 [19:37] <bacon> >say "echo"
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#2808 [19:44] <jDodson99> YES!!!
#2809 [19:45] <jDodson99> I finally got a copy of the error report!
#2810 [19:45] * jDodson99 is happy that he has a copy of the crash report, but sad that MC keeps crashing.
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#2815 [20:25] <jackknrsh7> hey everybody. weird server issue. not a big deal but every time i restart my server my player data is deleted. hosing and playing on same machine.
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#2823 [20:41] <jackknrsh7> nobody here today?
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#2825 [20:43] <Tw1sted_Torture> can anyone help me with the "launch4j error?
#2826 [20:45] <Tw1sted_Torture> anyone there?
#2827 [20:51] <Tw1sted_Torture> can anyone help me with the "launch4j error?
#2828 [20:53] <jackknrsh7> nobody who can help is on. sorry
#2829 [20:53] <jackknrsh7> ive been waiting too
#2830 [20:54] <Tw1sted_Torture> that blows
#2831 [20:54] <jackknrsh7> yeah, oh well
#2832 [20:54] <Tw1sted_Torture> wat are u having problems with?
#2833 [20:54] <wartech0> launch4j error?
#2834 [20:55] <Tw1sted_Torture> same as me?
#2835 [20:55] <Tw1sted_Torture> the error is hard to explain
#2836 [20:56] <wartech0> This might help
#2837 [20:56] <wartech0> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=37294
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#2839 [20:57] <wartech0> also what java version do you have tw1sted
#2840 [20:57] <wartech0> and os too
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#2842 [20:57] <vulpine> Alright, does anybody know how I can host a server for me and my friend? I'm running Ubuntu 10.10. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
#2843 [20:57] <lyude> Does anyone know how to make a screen with GNU screen that any user can rersume?
#2844 [20:57] <lyude> And vulpine
#2845 [20:57] <lyude> Start by downloading the server software
#2846 [20:58] <wartech0> lyude I nothing about GNU
#2847 [20:58] <wartech0> have you googled it
#2848 [20:58] <lyude> Yep
#2849 [20:58] <vulpine> Simply from the website? Or is there better server software?
#2850 [20:58] <lyude> There is bukkit
#2851 [20:58] <lyude> Which IMO, is better
#2852 [20:58] <lyude> But it's more complicated
#2853 [20:58] <lyude> Well not IMO
#2854 [20:58] <lyude> It IS better
#2855 [20:58] <vulpine> lol
#2856 [20:58] <Tw1sted_Torture> windows 7 ultimate 64bit java 6 i do belive
#2857 [20:58] <vulpine> Thanks alot that was actually just what I needed xD
#2858 [20:59] <vulpine> <3
#2859 [20:59] <lyude> No problem
#2860 [20:59] <wartech0> okay well your java is up to date Tw1sted
#2861 [20:59] <lyude> Just tell me if you need any help setting it up ^^
#2862 [20:59] <wartech0> have you tried uninstalling java and running cccleaner
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#2864 [20:59] <wartech0> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=26398&start=60#p621833
#2865 [20:59] <hatman> hey guys, my third time back here today
#2866 [20:59] <wartech0> it goes through the steps there
#2867 [20:59] <Tw1sted_Torture> tried uninstalling java but havent tried cc yet
#2868 [21:00] <wartech0> yea uninstall clean up the temp files
#2869 [21:00] <wartech0> and reinstall
#2870 [21:00] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok ill try that and i come back and tell u the verdict
#2871 [21:00] <hatman> is there a way to make my server run faster for other people?
#2872 [21:00] <Tw1sted_Torture> ya faster computer and internet
#2873 [21:00] <hatman> it runs like lightning for me, but my friend in canada takes like a full minute to transfer text
#2874 [21:01] <Tw1sted_Torture> because its running localy to ur comp
#2875 [21:02] <wartech0> hatman thats your internet speed
#2876 [21:02] <wartech0> latency I should say
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#2878 [21:02] <hatman> so just blame comcast then?
#2879 [21:02] <wartech0> since your own your computer effectivly you will have a latency of 0ms
#2880 [21:03] <wartech0> maybe depends on your upload speed
#2881 [21:03] <wartech0> up and down I would think
#2882 [21:03] <Tw1sted_Torture> ur computer can slow a server down too
#2883 [21:03] <pf> hola
#2884 [21:03] <wartech0> yes it would also be processing power and memory
#2885 [21:03] <wartech0> hello pf
#2886 [21:03] <pf> im having problems with buying this game? 3-D secure?
#2887 [21:04] <pf> is there any way of going around that?
#2888 [21:04] <hatman> well thanks guys, im just hosting the server temporarily til our old server gets the water dmg fixed
#2889 [21:05] <wartech0> hatman not much you can do except upgrade your net or a offsite server
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#2892 [21:05] <Erak> Update Java?
#2893 [21:05] <wartech0> ?
#2894 [21:06] <Erak> To that dude
#2895 [21:06] <Erak> Who asked
#2896 [21:06] <Erak> About the launch4j error
#2897 [21:06] <Tw1sted_Torture> me
#2898 [21:06] <Erak> yea.
#2899 [21:06] <Erak> If not, uninstall and reinstall
#2900 [21:06] <Tw1sted_Torture> doing it now
#2901 [21:06] <wartech0> I told him that
#2902 [21:06] <wartech0> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=26398&start=60#p621833
#2903 [21:06] <wartech0> I posted that for him I don't know if its anyhelp
#2904 [21:06] <wartech0> but it might be
#2905 [21:07] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok brb gotta restart
#2906 [21:07] <pf> so any idea?
#2907 [21:07] <wartech0> 3-d Secured what do you mean pf?
#2908 [21:07] <pf> Message from server: This card is ineligible for 3-D Secure payments.
#2909 [21:08] <Erak> Huh
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#2911 [21:08] <pf> it wont take my card, and it wont let me buy the game. i even tryed to do it through paypal, still wont work
#2912 [21:08] <wartech0> Is it a credit card
#2913 [21:08] <TheNytangel> !server
#2914 [21:09] <wartech0> is it a card that is listed as avaliable payments
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#2916 [21:10] <pf> wait what?
#2917 [21:10] <Erak> Tw1sted_Torture, that was fast. LOL.
#2918 [21:10] <Tw1sted_Torture> installing java as we speak
#2919 [21:10] <pf> it sais it can be used for online transactions
#2920 [21:10] <Tw1sted_Torture> lol
#2921 [21:10] <lyude> Anyone know a good way to host bukkit on a server where any user with ssh access can control it?
#2922 [21:10] <lyude> Instead of it being stuck to one user
#2923 [21:10] <wartech0> pf hmm I don't know what to tell you: :9
#2924 [21:10] <wartech0> :(*
#2925 [21:11] <wartech0> lyude like a remote server admin
#2926 [21:11] <wartech0> if your running linux I am pretty sure you can setup a remote system
#2927 [21:12] <wartech0> but I am no good with linux so I couldn't tell you how
#2928 [21:12] <lyude> ah
#2929 [21:12] <lyude> That's the screen stuff I was talking about before
#2930 [21:12] <lyude> GNU screen lets you detach a terminal and resume it on a different sessionb
#2931 [21:12] <lyude> But I can only get it to work for one user
#2932 [21:13] <c4bombexpert> damn
#2933 [21:13] <wartech0> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=101873 lyude
#2934 [21:13] <wartech0> maybe that might help
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#2936 [21:14] <wartech0> lyude could you add more user accounts maybe?
#2937 [21:14] <lyude> nononononono
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#2939 [21:14] <lyude> I have accounts added on ssh
#2940 [21:15] <digger191> so i started an online server but there is on land
#2941 [21:15] <lyude> And currently I can attach the terminal with bukkit running on it from anywhere
#2942 [21:15] <lyude> But
#2943 [21:15] <lyude> Other users can't
#2944 [21:15] <lyude> Unless they start it themselves from their session
#2945 [21:15] <c4bombexpert> anyone have a good java uninstaller
#2946 [21:15] <wartech0> I don't know if I knew more about linux I could maybe help
#2947 [21:15] <c4bombexpert> complete not just manual add/remove programs
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#2949 [21:16] <wartech0> uninstaller should work fine
#2950 [21:16] <lyude> c4bombexpert
#2951 [21:16] <lyude> Uninstall it
#2952 [21:16] <lyude> Then run ccleaner
#2953 [21:16] <lyude> That will remove everything
#2954 [21:16] <c4bombexpert> it's erroring with a dll message
#2955 [21:16] <c4bombexpert> I am
#2956 [21:16] <lyude> o_O
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#2958 [21:16] <lyude> God damn java
#2959 [21:16] <wartech0> is the dll there?
#2960 [21:16] <digger191> anyone else having trouble with server land (bump)
#2961 [21:17] <wartech0> btw tw1sted did that post work?
#2962 [21:17] <lyude> digger191, my server works fine
#2963 [21:18] <c4bombexpert> yeah it doesn't give a dll name
#2964 [21:18] <digger191> when i join mine there is no land and me and a few mobs are just free falling lol
#2965 [21:18] <Tw1sted_Torture> i got to part 8 and cmd says unable to access jarfile
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#2967 [21:18] <vulpine> Alright so I've downloaded Bukkit's sever using this (http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server) tutorial, although I have no idea how to connect to it myself.. x)
#2968 [21:18] <wartech0> no blahblah.dll missing c4?
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#2970 [21:18] <c4bombexpert> erro is 1763, which is failed install, but the update still won't come out, and sun says to 'uninstall it and reinstall'
#2971 [21:18] <c4bombexpert> nope
#2972 [21:18] <c4bombexpert> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/error_1723.xml
#2973 [21:18] <c4bombexpert> useless
#2974 [21:18] <lyude> c4bombexpert, we'll do it the old fashioned way
#2975 [21:18] <lyude> Delete the java directory
#2976 [21:18] <lyude> Then run ccleaner
#2977 [21:19] <wartech0> that may not get rid of everything lyude
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#2979 [21:19] <lyude> It will, delete the program files
#2980 [21:19] <lyude> wait
#2981 [21:19] <lyude> does it
#2982 [21:19] <lyude> crap
#2983 [21:19] <wartech0> what happens if the problem is in a config file
#2984 [21:19] <lyude> ..........o_O
#2985 [21:19] <Tw1sted_Torture> i got to part 8 and cmd says unable to access jarfile
#2986 [21:19] <lyude> Oversensitive spam script
#2987 [21:20] <digger191> nevermind it a ram issue
#2988 [21:20] <wartech0> Tw1sted you could make a bat file to run that
#2989 [21:20] <c4bombexpert> yeah that's what I'm doing now
#2990 [21:20] <Tw1sted_Torture> i dont understand y it needs the jar file wen its the mincraft.exe thats messed up
#2991 [21:21] <wartech0> minecraft.exe is just a launcher
#2992 [21:21] <Tw1sted_Torture> oh so its launching the jar
#2993 [21:21] <wartech0> or updating the jar
#2994 [21:22] <wartech0> or downloading the game
#2995 [21:22] <wartech0> but it has arguments it has to pass to minecraft.jar
#2996 [21:22] <vulpine> nvm solved it myself ;P
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#2998 [21:22] <Tw1sted_Torture> so let me make sure i put in the right info into cmd
#2999 [21:22] <Tw1sted_Torture> the jar file im looking for is in the appdata and roaming right?
#3000 [21:23] <wartech0> umm I don't think its that one
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#3002 [21:23] <wartech0> it may be the launcher your looking for
#3003 [21:24] <digger191> how much ram do you need to host i have 2gb
#3004 [21:24] <jackknrsh7> you have plenty
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#3006 [21:24] <Tw1sted_Torture> that forum said jar file and the only jar i hav is in the appdata folders
#3007 [21:24] <wartech0> alright let me try to do it real quick
#3008 [21:24] <digger191> the sever gives me a warning not enough ram and my game spawns no land
#3009 [21:25] <c4bombexpert> .jar shoulda been named .cup cup, java
#3010 [21:25] <xolotl> digger191: How are you launching the server?
#3011 [21:25] <Tw1sted_Torture> u hav to give the land a few secs to load in on slow computers
#3012 [21:25] <xolotl> digger191: minecraft.net has recommended values for -Xms and -Xmx
#3013 [21:25] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti or GreyVulpine, are you there?
#3014 [21:25] <digger191> oh i was just launching the .jar file
#3015 [21:25] <xolotl> digger191: Check the download page; they've got a line you shoudl use
#3016 [21:25] <xolotl> er, should use.
#3017 [21:26] <digger191> ok ill go look
#3018 [21:26] <wartech0> one second tw1sted
#3019 [21:26] <xolotl> digger191: And how much you allocate sort of depends on how many people you'll have connected at once. Mine is fine at -Xmx1024M but I rarely have more than three people connected
#3020 [21:26] <c4bombexpert> see Sun has their 'auto detect' on their site, but it requires java to work
#3021 [21:26] <xolotl> (and usually only, like, one)
#3022 [21:26] <c4bombexpert> that's just stupid
#3023 [21:26] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok
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#3025 [21:27] <TheNytangel> does anyone know how to set up a server?
#3026 [21:28] <wartech0> hmm I am getting the same thing Tw1sted
#3027 [21:28] <digger191> just to double check do i type off of this? java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3028 [21:28] <Tw1sted_Torture> lol i just dont understand
#3029 [21:28] <wartech0> okay lets try this tw1sted
#3030 [21:28] <xolotl> Drool: Right
#3031 [21:28] <xolotl> er
#3032 [21:28] <xolotl> digger191: Right
#3033 [21:29] <xolotl> Drool: Disregard that.
#3034 [21:29] <wartech0> navigate to %appdata%
#3035 [21:29] <TheNytangel> does anyone know how to set up a server..
#3036 [21:29] <wartech0> then to the .minecraft folder then to bin
#3037 [21:29] <xolotl> digger191: For ease of use you could put that in a batch file (on Windows) or a shellscript (on Linux)
#3038 [21:29] <wartech0> got that tw1sted
#3039 [21:29] <wartech0> ?
#3040 [21:29] <xolotl> Though calling it a "shell script" is a bit presumptuous since it'd just be that one command
#3041 [21:29] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup
#3042 [21:29] <c4bombexpert> yeah even on a java reinstall, it still times out trying to reach the server
#3043 [21:30] <wartech0> okay open up notepad
#3044 [21:30] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok
#3045 [21:30] <wartech0> I want you to type these lines exactly
#3046 [21:30] <c4bombexpert> someone post me an IP for their pub server so i can see if it's at least working
#3047 [21:30] <wartech0> @echo off
#3048 [21:30] <wartech0> then java -Xmx800m -jar Minecraft.jar
#3049 [21:30] <digger191> i didnt even think of a .bat file i love you so the code would be run -Xmx1024 ... ect then save it as a .bat?
#3050 [21:31] <c4bombexpert> can someone*
#3051 [21:31] <Tw1sted_Torture> on next line ?
#3052 [21:31] <xolotl> digger191: Yep
#3053 [21:31] <TheNytangel> anyone?
#3054 [21:31] <digger191> sweet ill try it
#3055 [21:31] <wartech0> yes tw1sted
#3056 [21:31] <Tw1sted_Torture> k
#3057 [21:31] <wartech0> then file save it as minecraftstart.bat in the minecraft bin folder
#3058 [21:31] <Mash> TheNytangel, !paid mashuga :p
#3059 [21:31] <xolotl> digger191: Though actually if you're on Windows you should be able to just use the .exe server
#3060 [21:32] <xolotl> digger191: Which AFAIK shouldn't require you to do any of that, though I've never used it myself
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#3062 [21:32] <Tw1sted_Torture> then run it?
#3063 [21:32] <wartech0> yes indeed
#3064 [21:32] <Tw1sted_Torture> opens and closes
#3065 [21:33] <digger191> ok ill try the exe one real quick
#3066 [21:33] <Erak> Does anybody know how to get a crash report when MC just freezes, then closes?
#3067 [21:33] <xolotl> digger191: I'd expect the jar / bat to work too, though, if you've already got that set up
#3068 [21:33] <Tw1sted_Torture> thenytangel here this is for u http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFMdpRqz_gg
#3069 [21:33] <wartech0> one second tw1sted
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#3071 [21:33] <TheNytangel> it isnt alpha
#3072 [21:34] <Tw1sted_Torture> yes it is
#3073 [21:34] <digger191> ok so the server no longer tells me i dont have enough ram but am still missing land in game lol
#3074 [21:35] <iSquirrel> My friend is having a problem starting minecraft beta 1.3
#3075 [21:35] <c4bombexpert> yeah I still can't connct to any servers
#3076 [21:35] <c4bombexpert> time out every single time, and I've not changed anything since now
#3077 [21:35] <iSquirrel> It's crashing as soon as he tries to loggin, and then dumps a error text file on his desktop
#3078 [21:36] <TheNytangel> Tw1sted_Torture, do you know how to set up the firewall and stuff?
#3079 [21:36] <wartech0> Nytangel forward port 22565 I think it is
#3080 [21:36] <wartech0> let me double check
#3081 [21:36] <TheNytangel> yeah, but...
#3082 [21:36] <TheNytangel> i know
#3083 [21:37] <Tw1sted_Torture> its 25565
#3084 [21:37] <TheNytangel> but
#3085 [21:37] <TheNytangel> gah
#3086 [21:37] <TheNytangel> how do i put my thoughts into word
#3087 [21:37] <TheNytangel> s
#3088 [21:37] <iSquirrel> It's having trouble accessing something on the graphics card
#3089 [21:37] <iSquirrel> Can someone help?
#3090 [21:37] <TheNytangel> the firewall
#3091 [21:37] <TheNytangel> how to get the the modem web page
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#3093 [21:37] <wartech0> oh
#3094 [21:37] <wartech0> well that is different from ever router make and model
#3095 [21:37] <wartech0> if you have a router then you need to forward the port
#3096 [21:38] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3097 [21:38] <TheNytangel> i know
#3098 [21:38] <TheNytangel> grr..
#3099 [21:38] <wartech0> well do you have a router?
#3100 [21:38] <digger191> got it =] thanks for all the help
#3101 [21:38] <Tw1sted_Torture> i can help him wartech that way u can figure out my prob lol
#3102 [21:38] <TheNytangel> it isnt me
#3103 [21:38] <TheNytangel> its someone else
#3104 [21:39] <Tw1sted_Torture> wat do they hav a router nytangel?
#3105 [21:39] <Tw1sted_Torture> lol didnt mean to put (wat)
#3106 [21:40] <wartech0> tw1sted just try opening minecraft.exe real quick
#3107 [21:40] <Tw1sted_Torture> still got my launch error
#3108 [21:40] <wartech0> damn
#3109 [21:40] <Erak> Reinstall MC?
#3110 [21:41] <Tw1sted_Torture> it dosent make any sense cause i can run the server exe but not the launcher for the game
#3111 [21:41] <TheNytangel> Tw1sted_Torture, yes they have a router
#3112 [21:41] <TheNytangel> linksys
#3113 [21:41] <Tw1sted_Torture> o wait nvm i cant run the server
#3114 [21:42] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok so the router ip would be 192.168.1.1
#3115 [21:42] <wartech0> okay tw1sted try moving that .bat to where minecraft.exe is
#3116 [21:43] <Tw1sted_Torture> still opens and closes
#3117 [21:43] <wartech0> then copy minecraft.exe and back it up
#3118 [21:43] <wartech0> then take the original and rename it minecraft.jar
#3119 [21:43] <Tw1sted_Torture> o lol ok
#3120 [21:43] <wartech0> then run the bat
#3121 [21:44] <Tw1sted_Torture> same thing happens
#3122 [21:44] <wartech0> right click the bad and choose edit
#3123 [21:44] <wartech0> take out @echo off
#3124 [21:44] <Tw1sted_Torture> k
#3125 [21:44] <wartech0> one sec
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#3127 [21:44] <digger191> so my trees grow back instantly?
#3128 [21:44] <TheNytangel> Tw1sted_Torture, login and password
#3129 [21:45] <Tw1sted_Torture> should be user:admin and the password is blank. but let me double check that
#3130 [21:45] <wartech0> okay run the bat file in cmd if you can tw1sted torture and see what it says
#3131 [21:46] <Erak> I had this weird glitch, where I died, respawned, and got my stuff back after I went to my deathplace, and then my MC crashed and when I logged back in, I got doubles of my items cause I already had them in my invent, but it was like. I travelled back in time. LOL.
#3132 [21:46] <Tw1sted_Torture> click the bat or type it in cmd?
#3133 [21:47] <wartech0> click drag the bat into the cmd prompt
#3134 [21:47] <Tw1sted_Torture> k
#3135 [21:47] <Tw1sted_Torture> unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#3136 [21:47] <wartech0> where is your command prompt at right now
#3137 [21:47] <wartech0> is it in the bin directory
#3138 [21:48] <wartech0> if not cd appdata\roaming\.minecraft\bin\
#3139 [21:48] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok
#3140 [21:49] <Tw1sted_Torture> long one lol sec
#3141 [21:49] <Tw1sted_Torture> error occurred during initialization of vm
#3142 [21:49] <wartech0> thats what the bad said?
#3143 [21:49] <Tw1sted_Torture> unable to load native library" cant find dependent libraries
#3144 [21:49] <wartech0> bat*
#3145 [21:50] <Tw1sted_Torture> wat cmd said
#3146 [21:50] <wartech0> oh is there a native folder inside the bin folder?
#3147 [21:50] <wartech0> or natives I guess I should say
#3148 [21:50] <Tw1sted_Torture> yes
#3149 [21:51] <wartech0> how many files are in the folder
#3150 [21:51] <wartech0> 8?
#3151 [21:51] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup
#3152 [21:51] <wartech0> hmm
#3153 [21:51] <wartech0> have you tried redownloading the exe
#3154 [21:52] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup many many times
#3155 [21:52] <wartech0> redownloading minecraft?
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#3157 [21:52] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup
#3158 [21:52] <wartech0> you deleted the .minecraft folder and ran the exe?
#3159 [21:53] <Tw1sted_Torture> o no i havent done that
#3160 [21:53] <wartech0> and it then preceded to download the files again
#3161 [21:53] <Tw1sted_Torture> let me try that
#3162 [21:53] <wartech0> well make a back up of .minecraft
#3163 [21:53] <wartech0> save it as minecraftbackup or something
#3164 [21:53] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok
#3165 [21:54] <wartech0> okay now delete .minecraft
#3166 [21:54] <wartech0> and run the exe
#3167 [21:54] <digger191> why do all my thing like tree spawn withing in seconds of me chopping them down
#3168 [21:54] <wartech0> is it downloading the game tw1sted?
#3169 [21:55] <Tw1sted_Torture> making backup now
#3170 [21:55] <wartech0> okay
#3171 [21:55] <wartech0> I will be right back going out for a smoke
#3172 [21:55] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok
#3173 [21:58] <lyude> oh god
#3174 [21:58] <lyude> I did the thing I was trying to do before
#3175 [21:58] <lyude> Albeit, I did it in the ugliest and dirties way possible
#3176 [21:58] <lyude> *dirtiest
#3177 [21:58] <lyude> But I did it
#3178 [21:59] <lyude> Actually it's dirty, but it was the best way of doing it
#3179 [22:00] <wartech0> tw1sted did it work?
#3180 [22:02] <Tw1sted_Torture> nope had to goto the website to download everything the launcher woudnt work
#3181 [22:03] <wartech0> did it download everything?
#3182 [22:04] <Tw1sted_Torture> the website downloaded the .minecraft folder but the launcher still gets its error
#3183 [22:04] <digger191> so everything respawns instantly trees/sand grass/snow and i can get any ideas any ideasl
#3184 [22:04] <wartech0> what link did you goto tw1sted?
#3185 [22:05] <wartech0> digger are you near the spawn
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#3187 [22:05] <Tw1sted_Torture> i tried the launcher first it didnt work so i redownloaded it and nothing so i went to the play in browser link and it downloaded it
#3188 [22:06] <wartech0> does it work in play in browser?
#3189 [22:06] <Tw1sted_Torture> yes
#3190 [22:07] <wartech0> the game does?
#3191 [22:07] <Tw1sted_Torture> yes but i hate using the browser all the time
#3192 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Tw1sted_Torture - What error?
#3193 [22:08] <Tw1sted_Torture> launch4j
#3194 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Say what/
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#3196 [22:09] <TheNytangel> !server
#3197 [22:10] <Tw1sted_Torture> it says the registry refers to a nonexsitent java runtime environment installation or the runtime is corrupted
#3198 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, okay. And you've tried a reinstall of java?
#3199 [22:11] <Tw1sted_Torture> i think my computer stumped wartech
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#3201 [22:11] <wartech0> hmm and you uninstalled and reinstalled java right
#3202 [22:11] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup sure hav many times
#3203 [22:11] <wartech0> and ran ccleaner
#3204 [22:11] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup
#3205 [22:11] <wartech0> did you scan the registry for errors
#3206 [22:11] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup it fixed many of them
#3207 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#3208 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> ?
#3209 [22:12] <Tw1sted_Torture> says ur java is working lastest java installed
#3210 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#3211 [22:14] <Tw1sted_Torture> its pretty bad wen i stump 2 ppl
#3212 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> What directory do you have java installed in?
#3213 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Just the standard c:\program files.... blah blah blah?
#3214 [22:15] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup
#3215 [22:16] <wartech0> open up cmdprompt
#3216 [22:16] <wartech0> type java -version
#3217 [22:16] <Tw1sted_Torture> that doesnt work tried that one too
#3218 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> java is not a command then?
#3219 [22:17] <Tw1sted_Torture> my java is under the program files (x86) if that makes a diffrence
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#3221 [22:17] <wartech0> are you running a 64bit system?
#3222 [22:17] <wartech0> or 32bit?
#3223 [22:17] <Tw1sted_Torture> yes
#3224 [22:17] <Tw1sted_Torture> 64
#3225 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> When you installed java, did you use the automated installer, or did you download it manually?
#3226 [22:18] <Tw1sted_Torture> windows 7 gamer edtion (aka ultimate) 64 bit
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#3228 [22:18] <Tw1sted_Torture> downloaded manually
#3229 [22:18] <wartech0> did you install the x64 version?
#3230 [22:18] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup
#3231 [22:18] <Nyxe> anyone know if i can disable damage in the new multiplayer server? wanting to make human cannons etc
#3232 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Nyxe - Not really possible
#3233 [22:19] <Tw1sted_Torture> nyxe just set the game to peaceful
#3234 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> You can't really disable all damage.
#3235 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Setting it to peaceful (a la turning off pvp, monster spawns), will only give you a health regen
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#3237 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> You'll still die from drowning, or high falls
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#3239 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Tw1sted_Torture - Alright, can you do this. Go to your control panel
#3240 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Go to the java app there.
#3241 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Under the java tab at the top, there should be a button labeled "view"
#3242 [22:20] <Tw1sted_Torture> i cant open it. says application not found
#3243 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Oh really...
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#3245 [22:20] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup lol
#3246 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Something's screwy with java then. um
#3247 [22:21] <Tw1sted_Torture> yea its like i hav java but then i dont
#3248 [22:22] <wartech0> I would say goto your control panel and uninstall java one more time and reinstall it
#3249 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> I'd look into manually deleting java...
#3250 [22:22] <wartech0> I think he did that the first time
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#3252 [22:22] <wartech0> maybe it didn't get rid of all the files?
#3253 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
#3254 [22:23] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok i hav 2 java 6 update 24 ,one says 64 bit at the end and i cant uninstall the 64bit one
#3255 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> You.. can't?
#3256 [22:24] <Tw1sted_Torture> nope
#3257 [22:24] <wartech0> what does it say?
#3258 [22:24] <Tw1sted_Torture> i can uninstall one but not the other
#3259 [22:24] <Ritterrav> Hey guys, I have just bought myself a copy of Minecraft. I was wondering how it would be possible to set up a server so that my roommate and I can play on the world I play on during singleplayer.
#3260 [22:24] <Tw1sted_Torture> one sec and ill tell ya
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#3262 [22:25] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok brb let me uninstall the other one i need to close firefox
#3263 [22:25] <wartech0> ok
#3264 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Ritterrav - It is possible, yes
#3265 [22:26] <Underground29> any ideas why minecraft transaction stops and says "Authentication denied"
#3266 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Ritterrav - All you gotta do is go here for the beta server file: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#3268 [22:27] <xales> Underground29: is it a prepaid card?
#3269 [22:27] <Underground29> no =o
#3270 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Run that, do you know where your single player world is?
#3271 [22:27] <xales> try using Paypal
#3272 [22:27] <Ritterrav> ok, cool. any ideas on how to go about it? is it as simple as just copying over the worlds saved file? or is it a server setting?
#3273 [22:27] <wartech0> yes Ritterrav
#3274 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes to the first part, it's as simple as copying the single player world over
#3275 [22:27] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok it says error 1723 there is a problem with this windows installer package. a dll required for this install to complete could not be run.
#3276 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> then either renaming the world(x) folder to "world"
#3277 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Or setting the level-name in server.properties to point to the folder
#3278 [22:28] <wartech0> does it maybe give any idea on what that dll is Tw1sted?
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#3280 [22:28] <Underground29> what name do you use when you log in? the one we created in the website?
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#3282 [22:28] <Tw1sted_Torture> nope doesnt mention anything about it
#3283 [22:28] <Osiris> hello
#3284 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Underground29 - Yes, the same account you used to log into minecraft.net
#3285 [22:28] <Ritterrav> interesting, ill go and give it a try.
#3286 [22:28] <Osiris> I'm looking for a server list to play online
#3287 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Osiris - Hi
#3288 [22:29] <Osiris> can anyone help me
#3289 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#3290 [22:29] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#3291 [22:29] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#3292 [22:29] <Osiris> thanks
#3293 [22:29] <Ritterrav> Thank you by the way,
#3294 [22:30] <wartech0> okay tw1sted
#3295 [22:31] <wartech0> http://www.javafixer.org/error-1723.php
#3296 [22:31] <wartech0> look at that
#3297 [22:31] <Underground29> i already payed the game and it keeps telling me user not premium
#3298 [22:31] <wartech0> don't download the java fixer crap ethier
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#3301 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Underground29 - How long ago?
#3302 [22:31] <a11an85> asdf
#3303 [22:32] <Tw1sted_Torture> lol ok
#3304 [22:32] <Underground29> chase sent me a txt and they asked me to confirm the purchase, so i did and it still hasnt gone through maybe?
#3305 [22:32] <xales> Underground29: if it said "authentication denied" then the purchase did not go through
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#3307 [22:34] <Underground29> i payed for it about 30minutes ago, then received the authentication denied error, but Chase sends me a txt to confirm so i do
#3308 [22:34] <Osiris> how do you talk once your in a server?
#3309 [22:34] <xales> if it gave you an authentication denied message then the transaction failed
#3310 [22:34] <xales> Osiris: t
#3311 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Underground29 - Payment for minecraft can take a few hours for it to go through
#3312 [22:34] <Osiris> thanks
#3313 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> It's normal for everybody
#3314 [22:35] <wartech0> okay tw1sted
#3315 [22:35] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok im in regedit and cant find the msiserver subkey under msiserver
#3316 [22:35] <Underground29> so i should just wait and see ? is there any chance that it went through after Chase confirmed it?
#3317 [22:35] <wartech0> delete java programfiles
#3318 [22:35] <wartech0> delete any java stuff in the appdata folder
#3319 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Underground29 - Did chase deny the payment altogether, or just ask you confirm it?
#3320 [22:35] <Underground29> asked me to confirm
#3321 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Underground29 - Okay, then yes, I'd just wait from here.
#3322 [22:36] <Underground29> okay thanks
#3323 [22:36] <Underground29> hopefully it works and not just charges me with no results
#3324 [22:36] <Tw1sted_Torture> wait wat am i doing again lol
#3325 [22:36] <wartech0> okay delete the java program files
#3326 [22:36] <wartech0> like you did before
#3327 [22:36] <Tw1sted_Torture> o u mean the .minecraft?
#3328 [22:37] <wartech0> no
#3329 [22:37] <wartech0> C\programfiles\java
#3330 [22:37] <Tw1sted_Torture> just delete without uninstall?
#3331 [22:37] <wartech0> yes
#3332 [22:37] <Tw1sted_Torture> k
#3333 [22:38] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok its gone
#3334 [22:39] <wartech0> make sure you back it up out of the recycle bin just in case
#3335 [22:39] <Underground29> will Minecraft send a confirmation about the payment?
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#3337 [22:39] <xales> Underground29: Did you use Paypal or the card gateway?
#3338 [22:39] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok
#3339 [22:39] <Underground29> card
#3340 [22:39] <xales> it..might
#3341 [22:40] <Underground29> agh.. lame now i feel like i regret buying it lol, no confirmation of anything besides money being pulled out my account
#3342 [22:40] <wartech0> okay if it is backed up and in a different file tw1sted
#3343 [22:40] <wartech0> restart
#3344 [22:40] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok brb
#3345 [22:40] <wartech0> open ccleaner
#3346 [22:40] <a11an85> how long has it been underground?
#3347 [22:40] <wartech0> and clean the registry
#3348 [22:40] <Tw1sted_Torture> alright
#3349 [22:41] <Underground29> not too long since i payed about 30 minutes, but im worried simply because i received the error message once saying AD had failed
#3350 [22:41] <Underground29> so i did it again, and chase send me the txt
#3351 [22:41] <Underground29> so im just worried itll charge me 2x
#3352 [22:42] <Underground29> just wish Minecraft would send confirmation
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#3354 [22:43] <wartech0> did you clear out the registy?
#3355 [22:43] <Tw1sted_Torture> doing it now
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#3357 [22:44] <wartech0> well don't worry about it right now
#3358 [22:44] <Tw1sted_Torture> already done and fixed
#3359 [22:44] <wartech0> http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software download this softwar
#3360 [22:44] <wartech0> just to make sure there isn't any trace of java left
#3361 [22:44] <Arsene> i buy minecraft, do you have official ip to play online
#3362 [22:45] <Tw1sted_Torture> i still hav the java 6 update 24 64bit that i cant uninstall
#3363 [22:45] <wartech0> okay get that software tw1sted
#3364 [22:45] <Tw1sted_Torture> k
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#3366 [22:45] <xales> Arsene: there is no official IP
#3367 [22:45] <xales> ??> Arsene smp/servers
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#3369 [22:45] <VoxelHead> Arsene: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#3370 [22:45] <VoxelHead> Arsene: (smp/servers) You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#3371 [22:45] <Underground29> i guess ill just have to wait and see if minecraft screwed me over or not.. aha
#3372 [22:45] <wartech0> then when you get it open it and choose remove older version
#3373 [22:46] <Underground29> anyways , how do i get the "minecraft launcher" into my desktop? it says i can do that, but i cant figure out how to
#3374 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> !client
#3375 [22:47] <Tw1sted_Torture> http://pastebin.com/sa563HFT made an error
#3376 [22:48] <wartech0> meh its fine
#3377 [22:48] <wartech0> okay try to download java now
#3378 [22:48] <Tw1sted_Torture> but the java is still in my programs list in control panal
#3379 [22:49] <wartech0> damn
#3380 [22:50] <wartech0> umm try to install anyway
#3381 [22:50] <Tw1sted_Torture> k
#3382 [22:50] <Tw1sted_Torture> should i do automatic download?
#3383 [22:51] <wartech0> no do manuel
#3384 [22:51] <wartech0> x64
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#3386 [22:51] <Tw1sted_Torture> their is no option for 64bit on manual just online and offline versions
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#3388 [22:52] <Abbie> Okay so I feel completely stupid right now, lol.
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#3390 [22:52] <wartech0> let me grab the link
#3391 [22:53] <Abbie> I was trying to download a mod, and it says to open the minecraft.jar up with WinRAR or 7zip...It's a .jar folder, you can't open it up with WinRAR nor 7zip.... I'm so lost.
#3392 [22:53] <wartech0> https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=jre-6u24-oth-JPR@CDS-CDS_Developer Tw1sted
#3393 [22:53] <xales> ??> Abbie mods
#3394 [22:53] <VoxelHead> Abbie: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3395 [22:53] <VoxelHead> Abbie: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3396 [22:53] <Underground29> welp thank you for all the help! but i have a feeling i got ripped off, anyways.. thanks
#3397 [22:53] <Iguana> whats the command to check who has paid
#3398 [22:53] <Abbie> Ohhh. Okay, sorry about that. i didn't know if it was a mod question or Minecraft question because it would be opening minecraft folder... Sorry about that!
#3399 [22:53] <xales> Iguana: !paid
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#3401 [22:55] <Iguana> !paid BOEUF
#3402 [22:55] <Iguana> !paid boeuf
#3403 [22:55] <Iguana> !paid boeuf
#3404 [22:55] <Iguana> order probably isn't through
#3405 [22:55] <Iguana> I'd assume
#3406 [22:55] <wartech0> still there tw1sted?
#3407 [22:56] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok wartech in the process of installing i get error 1723 again
#3408 [22:56] <wartech0> okay you still have the file backed up correct?
#3409 [22:56] <wartech0> the old java
#3410 [22:56] <Tw1sted_Torture> yup
#3411 [22:57] <wartech0> put it back in program files where you found it
#3412 [22:57] <Tw1sted_Torture> done
#3413 [22:57] <wartech0> now try to install
#3414 [22:57] <wartech0> see if it will
#3415 [22:58] <Tw1sted_Torture> nope
#3416 [22:58] <wartech0> hmm I think you might just have to play on the browser
#3417 [22:58] <Tw1sted_Torture> still says dll could not be run
#3418 [22:58] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok well thanks for ur time and help anywat
#3419 [22:58] <Tw1sted_Torture> way*
#3420 [22:59] <wartech0> np I tried my hardest
#3421 [22:59] <Tw1sted_Torture> its ok ill keep working on it maybe ill get lucky and figure it out
#3422 [23:00] <wartech0> there is one for sure solution
#3423 [23:00] <wartech0> but its alot of work
#3424 [23:00] <wartech0> it will work
#3425 [23:00] <wartech0> you could do a complete format
#3426 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Tw1sted_Torture - Try this, on windows, make a new user account
#3427 [23:00] <Tw1sted_Torture> lol i just done that a few months ago i dont want to go through that again
#3428 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> See if minecraft will launch on that new windows user account
#3429 [23:01] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok ill try that
#3430 [23:01] <wartech0> man your java must of bricked hard though
#3431 [23:02] <Tw1sted_Torture> brb gonna test other user
#3432 [23:06] <wartech0> So GreyVulpine do you work with mojang or are you just a seperate community?
#3433 [23:06] <xales> We aren't official support - it's community based. The only official support is for account issues
#3434 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> ^
#3435 [23:07] <wartech0> well its good you guys are around then
#3436 [23:07] <xales> We aren't affiliated with Mojang, but they link to us and refer people to us on occasion, and we have a higher level of contact with them (somewhat)
#3437 [23:08] <wartech0> Ie information about bugs?
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#3440 [23:08] <nevercast_> wartech0, our information of bugs generally comes from first hand encounter lol.
#3441 [23:08] <wartech0> Yea like mine today
#3442 [23:08] <wartech0> its horrible bug
#3443 [23:09] <nevercast> wartech0, I missed what it was. What bug did you encounter?
#3444 [23:09] <wartech0> extreme net lag on all multiplayer servers
#3445 [23:09] <wartech0> right after the 1.3 update
#3446 [23:09] <wartech0> java is up to date
#3447 [23:09] <wartech0> I am on win 7
#3448 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> It's a pretty common problem with 1.3
#3449 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> I've stopped running a server because it lags like crazy with 1.3
#3450 [23:10] <wartech0> meh its okay I still got singleplayer
#3451 [23:11] <xales> if only more people felt that way <.<
#3452 [23:11] <wartech0> meh its a beta game
#3453 [23:11] <wartech0> can't expect to much
#3454 [23:11] <oldtopman> my smp server is ssp most of the time :(
#3455 [23:11] <wartech0> when you buy a game in beta you are pretty much making yourself a bugfinder
#3456 [23:14] <wartech0> besides I have had worse experiances
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#3458 [23:14] <xolotl> On my machine it's primarily terrain generation that lags like hell
#3459 [23:14] <wartech0> Natural Selection 2 beta is completely horrible in every way
#3460 [23:14] <xolotl> (yay anecdotal evidence!)
#3461 [23:14] <Tw1sted_Torture> ok i couldnt even get java to install on the other user it downloaded and acted like it did but it wasent there
#3462 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Something screwy with your windows install then (or registry)
#3463 [23:15] <Tw1sted_Torture> o well thanks for ur help guys
#3464 [23:15] <wartech0> Tw1sted there is always the format
#3465 [23:15] <Tw1sted_Torture> its not a big enough deal for a format as long as i can play someway
#3466 [23:16] <wartech0> I guess
#3467 [23:16] <wartech0> I just think if you leave a problem unresolved you may have issues with it later
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#3469 [23:16] <Tw1sted_Torture> its just weird that its the only thing the doesnt work any other java related program works fine
#3470 [23:16] <Dixie> dang
#3471 [23:16] <Dixie> finally
#3472 [23:17] <xales> Dixie: ?
#3473 [23:17] <Dixie> kept getting put into an empty chan
#3474 [23:18] <wartech0> hell I think I might throw down a mix
#3475 [23:18] <Dixie> Got a repeating client to server disconnect due to socket error prob Id like some ideas on
#3476 [23:18] <wartech0> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs315.snc4/41083_1512333323950_1102913388_1454898_1043281_n.jpg
#3477 [23:19] <wartech0> is it okay to post links in here?
#3478 [23:19] <xales> Dixie: is it all servers, or just one?
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#3480 [23:19] <Dixie> hm good q
#3481 [23:19] <xales> wartech0: I don't see why it wouldn't be
#3482 [23:19] <Dixie> so far only been tryin just one
#3483 [23:19] <Dixie> dont know any others right now that are actually up
#3484 [23:19] <xolotl> wartech0: We only allow gopher:// links in here
#3485 [23:19] <Dixie> Steam is only other one i use
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#3487 [23:20] <Dixie> Ylt's server
#3488 [23:20] <advanty> Can someone explain to me how to host my own server for the multiplayer??
#3489 [23:20] <SinZ> ohai dixie
#3490 [23:20] <Dixie> Heya
#3491 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> advanty - You download the server from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp - Port forward 25565 as necessary
#3492 [23:21] <advanty> I have it downloaded, and what do you mean by port forward?
#3493 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Are you hosting it on a home connection?
#3494 [23:21] <Dixie> At MCP chan they're sayin it happens to everyone so it must be a problem Notch must fix.. but im not so sure, it never used to happen to me
#3495 [23:21] <advanty> Yea, well kinda, i'm at college and me and a few of my friends are going to all play on one.
#3496 [23:21] <Dixie> it just started and now its everytime i log in
#3497 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> advanty - Ah, are they in the same dorm/housing arrangement as you?
#3498 [23:23] <advanty> Yes. I guess the problem is, i don't even know how to connect to it myself, let alone give them the info to connect themselves.
#3499 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> advanty - To test if the server is running on the local machine, use 127.0.0.1
#3500 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> That always points back to the machine it's used on
#3501 [23:23] <wartech0> yay localhost
#3502 [23:23] <xales> Dixie: what exactly is the problem?
#3503 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> To find your local ip, use ipconfig (on windows), or ifconfig (on *nix)
#3504 [23:23] <xales> what specifically does it say, how often, at what point, etc
#3505 [23:25] <advanty> I used the 127.0.0.1 and still couldn't connect, i already tried my own ip and i'm getting the same problem it says "Failed to connect to the server Connection refused: connect"
#3506 [23:25] <Punchist> hey guys, if I want to periodically backup my world, do I simply tar my world folder and store somewhere?
#3507 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> advanty - Firewall or security software?
#3508 [23:26] <xales> Punchist: that would work, yes
#3509 [23:26] <Dixie> xales: "java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer"
#3510 [23:26] <Punchist> ty
#3511 [23:26] <xales> Dixie: that's a routing problem then
#3512 [23:26] <Dixie> ah
#3513 [23:26] <xales> Dixie: it's transport-level
#3514 [23:26] <Dixie> reset router?
#3515 [23:26] <xales> no, it's unlikely at the router level
#3516 [23:26] <advanty> None that i know of, and i know it should work on this internet because a friend down the hall is running his own multiplayer server.
#3517 [23:26] <Dixie> :/
#3518 [23:26] <xales> it's probably an issue with your Internet connectivity in general
#3519 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> advanty - Windows?
#3520 [23:26] <advanty> Yes.
#3521 [23:26] <xales> try http://pingtest.net/
#3522 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> advanty - Windows firewall down?
#3523 [23:26] <xales> run that, click "Direct Link", paste here
#3524 [23:28] <advanty> http://www.pingtest.net/result/35987699.png
#3525 [23:28] <Dixie> http://www.pingtest.net/result/35987693.png
#3526 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> advanty - Is windows firewall down?
#3527 [23:28] <Dixie> I passed with straight A's lol
#3528 [23:28] <xales> Dixie: yeah, that looks fine
#3529 [23:29] <advanty> Idk i'll check.
#3530 [23:29] <xales> Dixie: is it a problem on multiple servers? =/
#3531 [23:29] <Dixie> could a neighbor be trying to ride my connection?
#3532 [23:29] <Dixie> accessing port 8080 or something?
#3533 [23:29] <Dixie> i would need another server thats up to test
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#3535 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Don't know how well this is going to work.. but try greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3536 [23:32] <Dixie> that wasnt a server was it grey? lol
#3537 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> It was Diablothein
#3538 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> er, Dixie
#3539 [23:33] <wartech0> Does anyone like techno music at all?
#3540 [23:33] <Dixie> lost me
#3541 [23:33] <jDodson99> Is anyone else crashing on the mojang screen?
#3542 [23:33] <LG_Legacy> Techno? >:(
#3543 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Dixie - In your client's multiplayer field, for the IP, type in greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3544 [23:33] <Dixie> Its a Siablo sever?
#3545 [23:33] <Dixie> Diablo
#3546 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> No.
#3547 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I mis-tabbed auto-complete
#3548 [23:33] <Dixie> i did that
#3549 [23:34] <Dixie> i pasted it
#3550 [23:34] <wartech0> I guess LG it would be hands up and uk hardcore
#3551 [23:34] <wartech0> and maybe a bit of dutch hardcore
#3552 [23:34] <xales> jDodson99: reinstall
#3553 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Dixie - Did you try connecting to "greyvulpine.dyndns.org"?
#3554 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Did it say anything?
#3555 [23:34] <jDodson99> Xales, by that do you mean delete the bin folder?
#3556 [23:34] <xales> yes
#3557 [23:34] <jDodson99> Or delete .minecraft?
#3558 [23:34] <jDodson99> Okay
#3559 [23:34] <Dixie> GreyVulpine- unknown host
#3560 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Erm
#3561 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Without quotes?
#3562 [23:35] <jDodson99> "Can't connect to minecraft.net!"
#3563 [23:35] <Dixie> yeah no quotes
#3564 [23:35] <jDodson99> Oh wait
#3565 [23:35] <jDodson99> I was using the old launcher
#3566 [23:35] <jDodson99> I tried the new launcher, it downloaded the files, and still crashes.
#3567 [23:36] <jDodson99> http://bit.ly/hJWQE8 That's the best I could get on the crash report
#3568 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Dixie - Make sure you're typing it exactly as written here: greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#3569 [23:36] <jDodson99> Or just copy and paste it?
#3570 [23:37] <Dixie> jDodson99 looks like you need to update java
#3571 [23:37] <Dixie> dont know if that would help
#3572 [23:37] <jDodson99> I can't.
#3573 [23:37] <Dixie> oh
#3574 [23:38] <jDodson99> Long story short, I'm running Leopard and there hasn't been a leopard update since lord-knows-when.
#3575 [23:38] <Dixie> java should be platform independent
#3576 [23:38] <wartech0> GreyVulpine your sever isn't responding to pings
#3577 [23:38] <Dixie> greyvulpine im in
#3578 [23:38] <xales> jDodson99: try on a new user account
#3579 [23:38] <xolotl> jDodson99: http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/ maybe?
#3580 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Of course I'm not responding to pings
#3581 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Dixie - Then yeah, you've got no problems
#3582 [23:39] <jDodson99> New user account?
#3583 [23:39] <jDodson99> What do you mean by that?
#3584 [23:39] <wartech0> don't like people pinging you?
#3585 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> It's the server you're connecting to which is either down, or.. whatever
#3586 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> wartech0 - I have my network locked down. IT guy.. you understand
#3587 [23:39] <wartech0> starts his bot net up muhahah
#3588 [23:40] <xales> jDodson99: I mean create a new account on your computer
#3589 [23:40] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: I ended up finding ping blocking much more of a hindrance than it was worth. :)
#3590 [23:40] <xales> and try playing it under that
#3591 [23:40] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#3591 [23:40] <Dixie> GreyVulpine - OMG this is amazing! Im getting zero lag on this server with everything on and maxed - far view, fancy gfx, smoothlighting
#3592 [23:40] <wartech0> lol just kidding Vulpine I have no bot net
#3593 [23:40] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Whenever I suspected that my home network connection was down it was triply-annoying to verify. :)
#3594 [23:40] <jDodson99> Xales, I don't see how that would do anything...
#3595 [23:40] <xolotl> (not that I'm advocating one way or the other)
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#3597 [23:40] <xales> GreyVulpine: I find only allowing ICMP ping (8) and throttling it hardcore is nice
#3598 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Everybody has their preferences xolotl.
#3599 [23:40] <xales> ??> jDodson99 win/profile
#3600 [23:40] <VoxelHead> jDodson99: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3601 [23:40] <VoxelHead> jDodson99: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3602 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> I just like to do it this way
#3603 [23:40] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Yeah, as I say, I'm not advocating anything.
#3604 [23:41] <Dixie> GreyVulpine - what does my server admin need to do to get our server running as efficiently as yours?
#3605 [23:41] <jDodson99> Ahhh...
#3606 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Dixie - Um, actually, I'm not doing any optimization of minecraft at all. It's running on a windows vista laptop with 4 gigs of ram
#3607 [23:41] <Dixie> herm now it lags
#3608 [23:41] <Dixie> i think going back and forth between this and the game causes lag
#3609 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like java just dumping itself into swap. Nothing bad about that
#3610 [23:42] <wartech0> is it network lag or graphics?
#3611 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft does take 512M to a gig of RAM
#3612 [23:42] <Dixie> Well i got 2 gigs
#3613 [23:42] <Dixie> should i increase swap?
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#3615 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#3616 [23:43] <Dixie> defrag swap?
#3617 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Your OS automatically does swapping whenever necessary
#3618 [23:43] <xales> Dixie: it uses 1GB automatically
#3619 [23:43] <wartech0> I really wished Notch didn't choose java
#3620 [23:43] <xales> and you can't defragment swapspace
#3621 [23:43] <Dixie> me too
#3622 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> wartech0 - It's the only language Notch knows
#3623 [23:43] <Dixie> yeah theres a prog for defragging the swap
#3624 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> And he chose java, to make it more accessible
#3625 [23:43] <wartech0> C# is pretty easy
#3626 [23:43] <Dixie> forget what it is
#3627 [23:43] <jDodson99> Soy Latte confuses me. I just headdesked.
#3628 [23:43] <wartech0> yea but java is just meh..
#3629 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo Dixie - It seems like you just need to find a server that's up.
#3630 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> I'm going to shut down mine now.
#3631 [23:44] <Dixie> well ours is up
#3632 [23:44] <Dixie> i just keep disconnecting
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#3634 [23:44] <xales> Dixie: it could be your routing to the server
#3635 [23:44] <Dixie> there it is
#3636 [23:44] <Dixie> just happened here
#3637 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> I just closed the server
#3638 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> That was me
#3639 [23:44] <Dixie> ah ok
#3640 [23:45] <Dixie> got same error though
#3641 [23:45] <wartech0> I need to work on my game someday...
#3642 [23:45] <Dixie> but on ours the other guys have no probs
#3643 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> connection reset by peer just means the connection to the server got interrupted
#3644 [23:45] <Dixie> no it says internal exception java.net.socketException
#3645 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Either by the server refusing to talk to you (being shut down), or a hiccup in the connection between you and the server
#3646 [23:46] <wartech0> Has anyone in here ever played Wurm?
#3647 [23:46] <Dixie> but yeah it does say connection reset at the end
#3648 [23:47] <Dixie> so why would it happen to me on one server and not on another? while it doesnt happen to others on that server?
#3649 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Dixie - Try a tracert to that server, see if any routers in between are dropping packets?
#3650 [23:47] <Dixie> oh maybe where the server is located?
#3651 [23:47] * GreyVulpine nods
#3651 [23:47] <Dixie> oh ok how?
#3652 [23:48] <Dixie> ping from cmd?
#3653 [23:48] <wartech0> tracert ipaddress or hostname
#3654 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Pull up a command prompt (Windows+R to bring up the run command, type in: "cmd", then "tracert iphere")
#3655 [23:48] <wartech0> from cmd
#3656 [23:48] <Dixie> can i use the host name?
#3657 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3658 [23:49] <Dixie> k
#3659 [23:49] <Dixie> ill pastbin the results
#3660 [23:51] <Dixie> http://pastebin.com/prtNf1e0
#3661 [23:51] <Dixie> crap
#3662 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, looks fine here..
#3663 [23:52] * VoxelHead gives Dixie a chamberpot
#3663 [23:53] <Dixie> there a way to delete that from pastbin?
#3664 [23:53] <Dixie> :/
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#3666 [23:53] <mib_40kel5> help plz
#3667 [23:53] <mib_40kel5> Hello anyone
#3668 [23:53] <mib_40kel5> anyone there?
#3669 [23:53] <Dixie> hi
#3670 [23:54] <Dixie> If you state the prob you might get some help.
#3671 [23:54] <mib_40kel5> hi i need help me and my brother ( live in same house) we have set up a lan server but wondering what the seed generator is
#3672 [23:54] <xolotl> mib_40kel5: Just leave it blank
#3673 [23:54] <mib_40kel5> bc we want a good server
#3674 [23:54] <mib_40kel5> a good map
#3675 [23:55] * xolotl stands by his advice
#3675 [23:55] <xolotl> Can you even specify a seed in SMP?
#3676 [23:55] <xales> xolotl: nope
#3677 [23:55] <Dixie> its random
#3678 [23:55] <xolotl> Suppose you could start a world in SSP and then copy it over, if you wanted to specify one
#3679 [23:55] <Dixie> the best maps are random anyway
#3680 [23:55] <mib_40kel5> ah ok ty
#3681 [23:55] <xolotl> Dixie: A nonrandom map wouldn't be very interesting
#3682 [23:55] * GreyVulpine pokes Dixie.
#3682 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> "The creator of pastes can always remove the paste whenever he or she feels like it by clicking the 'delete' link on the right side of a paste. We remember who pasted a paste by storing a cookie on the creators computer. If you empty your browsers cache, the cookie will be removed, and the removal link will disappear. If you feel a certain paste should not be online, or when it contains
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#3684 [23:55] <xolotl> :)
#3685 [23:56] <wartech0> you could be even more random and type in random numbers :)
#3686 [23:56] <mib_40kel5> also are you guys going to be adding pets into game?
#3687 [23:56] <xolotl> mib_40kel5: *we* aren't, unless there happens to be a mod creator in here who was going to do so
#3688 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Notch has said in a recent tweet.. dogs will probably be added
#3689 [23:57] <xolotl> mib_40kel5: Mojang said that there was going to be dogs, though.
#3690 [23:57] <mib_40kel5> nice
#3691 [23:57] <mib_40kel5> do u know when dogs will be?
#3692 [23:57] <xolotl> (or I guess, more likely wolves that are tameable)
#3693 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/notch/status/42773768975810560
#3694 [23:57] <xolotl> mib_40kel5: Nope
#3695 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> "I kinda promised a very important person we're adding Dog pets to Minecraft, so I guess that's confirmed now."
#3696 [23:57] <wartech0> I wonder who he made the promise too
#3697 [23:57] <mib_40kel5> lol
#3698 [23:57] <mib_40kel5> jeuss
#3699 [23:57] <mib_40kel5> jesus
#3700 [23:57] <mib_40kel5> =)
#3701 [23:58] <mib_40kel5> jesus is almighty
#3702 [23:58] <xolotl> wartech0: You're assuming that your manually-typed in "random" numbers exhibit less bias than whatever the source Minecraft uses for its seed when left to its own devices
#3703 [23:58] <wartech0> well technically a computer can only generate peusdo random numbers
#3704 [23:59] <xolotl> wartech0: Entropy pools can be used to get around that
#3705 [23:59] <xolotl> (though I'd guess that Minecraft probably *isn't* using entropy to generate the seed)
#3706 [23:59] <wartech0> or a radiation detector
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