#1 [00:00] <oldtopman> OldSnake: both are recommended (TCP&UDP)
#2 [00:00] <xales> oldtopman: but not needed :)
#3 [00:01] <trhollywood> yes but any ideas what could be the cause. also in single player if i leav the game run too long it gets a black screen and i have to force close the game. on a side note the last time i joined his sever it put up a java error dont remember what it was though.
#4 [00:02] <xales> trhollywood: if you have any firewall and/or antivirus running, disable it, for starters
#5 [00:03] <trhollywood> i have norton but its shutdown killed the firewall + the smart security
#6 [00:03] <xales> that's very possibly the problem
#7 [00:03] <xales> Norton is a steaming pile of shit
#8 [00:03] <xales> try uninstalling it completely
#9 [00:03] <User> How can I get a server running with my friend in Minecraft?
#10 [00:04] <trhollywood> also it dose the same thing when i run my own server and connect to it. so i dont think its a firewall problem
#11 [00:04] <xales> User: download the server file, configure it, run it, forward port
#12 [00:04] <xales> trhollywood: it could very well be a firewall problem even if it's local
#13 [00:04] <User> Okay thanks.
#14 [00:04] <xales> the firewall still looks at the traffic, and can slow it down significantly (the amount of traffic generated by Minecraft is enormous)
#15 [00:04] <trhollywood> wow that messed up. why whould it be a fire wall if im trying to connect to my self lol
#16 [00:05] <xales> firewalls are stupid, particularly Norton
#17 [00:05] <xales> that's how they work
#18 [00:05] <xales> they monitor all traffic
#19 [00:05] <SkiingPenguins> in-out-allaround
#20 [00:05] <trhollywood> well i play online with my ps3 and other pc games with no problems. only minecraft
#21 [00:05] <Nappz> Just made a portal to the nether, but when I walk through the doorway (that is glowing purple), nothing happens.. Same when I stand inside it
#22 [00:05] <xales> again, so what?
#23 [00:06] <xales> Nappz: Multiplayer?
#24 [00:06] <xales> trhollywood: try uninstalling Norton
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#26 [00:06] <xales> if that doesn't fix it, then you should probably find a better antivirus/firewall program anyway
#27 [00:06] <mib_h2exch> how to put a sign on a chest?
#28 [00:06] <Nappz> xales: ya
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#30 [00:06] <xales> and besides; a firewall does exactly nothing on most home connections (ones behind a router)
#31 [00:06] <Nappz> Does it not work in MP?
#32 [00:06] <xales> Nappz: correct
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#34 [00:06] <xales> mib_h2exch: look on the wiki
#35 [00:06] <Nappz> Damn
#36 [00:06] <Nappz> lo
#37 [00:06] <Nappz> ll
#38 [00:08] <mib_h2exch> arg
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#41 [00:33] <[USNG]Joshua_C_Allen> anybody having porblems with redstone?
#42 [00:34] <tyler100894> When playing free version, I keep getting error "Unable to load logo and progress bar" I've played it before, it just does this a lot of times and I don't know why
#43 [00:35] <thecapn09> free version is outdated and old
#44 [00:35] <tyler100894> Soo, theres nothing I can do to fix this?
#45 [00:35] <thecapn09> not that i know of
#46 [00:35] <thecapn09> are u using mods?
#47 [00:36] <tyler100894> No
#48 [00:36] <thecapn09> wait old version is in browser?
#49 [00:36] <tyler100894> Yea
#50 [00:36] <thecapn09> update java is all i can think of
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#52 [00:36] <thecapn09> download the latest java and that might fix it
#53 [00:37] <xales> ??> tyler100894 win/reinst
#54 [00:37] <VoxelHead> tyler100894: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#55 [00:37] <VoxelHead> tyler100894: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#56 [00:37] <thecapn09> .. voce
#57 [00:38] <thecapn09> voxe hes playing the old demo in the browser
#58 [00:38] <thecapn09> its not installed
#59 [00:38] <xales> thecapn09: it still stores local cache in the .minecraft folder
#60 [00:38] <xales> and VoxelHead is a bot
#61 [00:39] <thecapn09> o
#62 [00:39] <thecapn09> thats interesting
#63 [00:39] <thecapn09> i have a issue with redstone
#64 [00:39] * VoxelHead is back
#64 [00:40] <thecapn09> you know how when you place a preasure pad you can have it connect under the block with a torch well it does not work at all when going under for anything taht i do
#65 [00:40] <thecapn09> won't work for doors or preasure pads
#66 [00:41] <thecapn09> is that a code error from the update?
#67 [00:41] <thecapn09> it does not work in single player or on my server
#68 [00:41] <xales> it still works
#69 [00:41] <thecapn09> i don't think i'm doing it wrong
#70 [00:41] <thecapn09> lol
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#72 [00:42] <VoxelHead> well, are you here to fumigate the moose spleen?
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#74 [00:43] <xales> Voxel, make me some tea
#75 [00:43] * VoxelHead replicates some tea for xales
#75 [00:43] <xales> I'm thirsty
#76 [00:43] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE thirsty? feel these nipples!
#77 [00:44] <xales> ...
#78 [00:44] <xales> wow
#79 [00:44] <xales> Voxel, cloak
#80 [00:44] <VoxelHead> Already running cloaked, sir
#81 [00:44] <xales> ._.
#82 [00:44] <thecapn09> this is frustrating man i don't know whats wrong
#83 [00:45] <xales> are you sure you are doing it correctly?
#84 [00:45] <xales> it should be a block, with redstone on it, then immediately underneath that, a torch
#85 [00:46] <thecapn09> i have a presure pad on top of the block with a redstone torch under it
#86 [00:46] <xales> is it immediately beneath it?
#87 [00:46] <thecapn09> yes
#88 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> That.. doesn't work
#89 [00:49] <thecapn09> it doesn't?
#90 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> redstone torches transmit power upwards, not downwards, first of all
#91 [00:49] <thecapn09> hrmm
#92 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> second, pressure plates only power the block on it, so you need a wire coming off the block to one of its sides
#93 [00:50] <thecapn09> i'm watched that almity bob guys youtube vid for the minecart station and thats what he had but it was like 1.0
#94 [00:51] <thecapn09> ...i figured it out damn lol
#95 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, those minecart stations don't really work anymore. Boosters in SMP have been nerfed. Unoccupied minecarts don't go as far when boosted
#96 [00:51] <thecapn09> ah lame
#97 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
#98 [00:52] <thecapn09> thxs for the help though
#99 [00:55] <thecapn09> soo what do the cool kids do with minecarts and redstone these days
#100 [00:57] <Kealper> bah....text just looks nasty using GDI+ to draw on an Aero Glass window...Windows must use DCs for that sort of stuff to make it look right, and i have no idea how to use thouse ._.
#101 [00:57] * Kealper kills that code with fire
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#102 [00:59] <VoxelHead> cornelius ._.
#103 [00:59] <cornelius> bad graphix card
#104 [00:59] <cornelius> when i updated
#105 [01:00] <cornelius> to windows 7
#106 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> thecapn09 - Powered minecarts still work.. but really isn't as fun
#107 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> And boosters still kinda work with occupied minecarts
#108 [01:02] <Kealper> boosters in smp work, but you can't have any client lag at all or you will slow down fast
#109 [01:02] <Kealper> and i don't mean latency lag, i mean pc fail lag lol
#110 [01:02] <thecapn09> o hrmm i want to do some cool stuff with red stone but i don't know what to make
#111 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Heh, use some of the properties of water and redstone... I had fun making a nice redstone project for myself
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#113 [01:04] <Malak_Dawnfire> Hello
#114 [01:05] <thecapn09> water and redstone?
#115 [01:05] <thecapn09> that works?
#116 [01:05] <Malak_Dawnfire> When my friend tries to join a Minecraft server she gets a "Unknown Host" error, she opened her firewall to let Minecraft.exe through, but that didn't do anything. I'm not sure what else it could be.
#117 [01:06] <thecapn09> port forward
#118 [01:06] <Malak_Dawnfire> Port forward? Is that the only way?
#119 [01:06] <thecapn09> pretty much
#120 [01:06] <xales> Malak_Dawnfire: what is she entering in the IP address box?
#121 [01:06] <xales> thecapn09: port forwarding is for incoming connections
#122 [01:06] <thecapn09> u need the external ip
#123 [01:07] <xales> not related in any way to failed DNS resolution
#124 [01:07] <Malak_Dawnfire> I copy and pasted the IP address to her and joined fine, she copied the same one I did and isn't able to join.
#125 [01:07] <xales> Malak_Dawnfire: have her type it herself; there is probably a space in it or something
#126 [01:07] <Malak_Dawnfire> Maybe.
#127 [01:08] <Malak_Dawnfire> She's trying it. Port forwarding isn't fun to try and teach somebody, so I'd rather it not come to that.
#128 [01:08] <Malak_Dawnfire> It worked!
#129 [01:08] <Malak_Dawnfire> wOOHOO!
#130 [01:08] <Malak_Dawnfire> <3
#131 [01:08] <Malak_Dawnfire> Thanks guys.
#132 [01:08] <VoxelHead> Aw... it's broken in the butt.
#133 [01:09] <xales> Voxel, what on earth are you randomly talking again for
#134 [01:09] <xales> :(
#135 [01:09] <thecapn09> man lately i have been having a lack of ideas
#136 [01:09] <thecapn09> its sad
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#139 [01:14] <VoxelHead> hi yo~
#140 [01:14] <louis> hello
#141 [01:14] <louis> Im having a problem running on my second laptop on my minecraft server it only works when i run it on 256 colors anything else it lags a lot and i get end of stream errors and I also cant see most of the world
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#143 [01:15] <xales> louis: the Minecraft server requires a lot of resources - can the laptop handle it?
#144 [01:15] <louis> yes it can handle it easily
#145 [01:15] <louis> its not even 4 months old
#146 [01:15] <xales> the age has nothing to do with whether or not it can run a Minecraft server
#147 [01:16] <xales> how much RAM does it have, how fast is the CPU, and what else do you have open on it
#148 [01:16] <Octocraft> I need some help my game every time i try to play it freezes up then closes the client any awnser?
#149 [01:16] <louis> my bad i didnt mean it was running the server, it just playing on the server im running the server from a dedicated server which can host up to 3 people
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#152 [01:18] <xales> Octocraft: when does it freeze, exactly
#153 [01:19] <xales> louis: do you have problems playing single player?
#154 [01:19] <louis> not at all
#155 [01:19] <xales> when you say "256 colors," you mean the display mode, on the laptop?
#156 [01:19] <Mash> Everyone /has/ seen this, right?
#157 [01:19] <Mash> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft
#158 [01:20] <VoxelHead> yes.
#159 [01:20] <xales> :o
#160 [01:20] <xales> Voxel
#161 [01:20] <xales> :<
#162 [01:20] <VoxelHead> Well shut me up.
#163 [01:20] <xales> Voxel, eat yourself
#164 [01:20] * VoxelHead eats yourself
#164 [01:20] <louis> i got desperate and ran the program on 256 colors by right clicking the program java on my task manager and hit properties and right below the compatibility thing u can click on 256
#165 [01:21] <xales> ??> louis win/dxdiag
#166 [01:21] <VoxelHead> louis: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#167 [01:21] <VoxelHead> louis: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#168 [01:22] <louis> its javaw.exe*32 on the windows task manager under processes
#169 [01:24] <louis> if you right click on it you can go to Properties>Compatibility> and under settings it says 256, then you close the minecraft and reopen it and it will run in 256 and the server client runs well with no lag but if i run it anything more thna 256 it lags like crazy
#170 [01:24] <xales> yes; I got that. Can you follow the instructions that VoxelHead said?
#171 [01:24] <louis> sure
#172 [01:27] <louis> i think i got it here goes http://pastebin.com/iTuHMg40
#173 [01:27] <louis> thanks for your help and time guys its much appreciated :]
#174 [01:28] <Octocraft> Oh umm sorry Xales I was AFK it happens at the loading after I try to go to a map
#175 [01:29] <xales> louis: do you have any other programs open when you are trying to play Minecraft?
#176 [01:29] <xales> Octocraft: try creating a new world
#177 [01:30] <louis> none sometimes firefox but even when that isnt running it still lags bad, today we were both able to play for a while id say about an hour then all of a sudden it stopped working
#178 [01:31] <xales> louis: the problem is that your computer barely has enough RAM to run Minecraft
#179 [01:32] <louis> is there a way to fix that xales without making hardware changes?
#180 [01:33] <xales> you could try closing every other program, shutting down any background things (Microsoft Messenger, firewall, antivirus - disable the last two)
#181 [01:34] <louis> so im guessing single player takes up way less ram and multiplayer :P
#182 [01:34] <louis> than*
#183 [01:35] <xales> not particularly, however, it's likely that the reason for increased resource consumption is because of a firewall or antivirus program being more concerned about Minecraft due to the fact that it is accessing the Internet
#184 [01:36] <louis> i see so if i disable all my antivirus and firewalls it should bring it back up to speed?
#185 [01:36] <xales> it's possible
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#187 [01:37] <louis> ill give it a shot but it kinda explains why when i try to run it on 256 it runs well, the ram used for that mode must be much less than the full color settings
#188 [01:38] <louis> but we will see, ill be back, thanks again xales
#189 [01:38] <xales> no problem
#190 [01:39] <Octocraft> Lolz sorry xales just busy doing two things at once and ive tried it no works :(
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#192 [01:40] <xales> Octocraft: do you have any mods installed?
#193 [01:41] <Octocraft> yes
#194 [01:41] <xales> that is probably why
#195 [01:41] <Octocraft> sdk's gun mod
#196 [01:42] <xales> ??> Octocraft win/reinst
#197 [01:42] <VoxelHead> Octocraft: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#198 [01:42] <VoxelHead> Octocraft: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#199 [01:45] <Octocraft> Thanks xales works :D
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#202 [01:53] <TheBix> hey guys
#203 [01:53] <TheBix> how do I make a reverse counter
#204 [01:53] <thecapn09> use an inverter?
#205 [01:54] <TheBix> like u input a number and the output goes high that amount of times.
#206 [01:54] <thecapn09> or a count down ?
#207 [01:54] <TheBix> what?
#208 [01:54] <thecapn09> lol
#209 [01:54] <TheBix> do you know how to make a circuit like that?
#210 [01:55] <TheBix> redstone circuit of course
#211 [01:55] <thecapn09> i never tried to
#212 [01:55] <thecapn09> haven't thought about it
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#216 [02:01] <VoxelHead> Wilkommen mm.
#217 [02:01] <mm> Hi what are some minecraft seed commands like any cool ones you prefer
#218 [02:02] <Kealper> i have not really messed with seeds much yet :/
#219 [02:03] <mm> Oh than do you know any sources to find diferent seeds?
#220 [02:03] <Kealper> best place to check would probably be minecraftforum.net
#221 [02:03] <xales> A seed is just a number that tells the random number generator where to start
#222 [02:03] <xales> there are no "special" ones
#223 [02:03] <DopeGhoti> I heard (no joke) that 'derp' generates a snazzy world
#224 [02:04] <xales> Vox, eat DopeGhoti
#225 [02:04] * VoxelHead eats DopeGhoti
#225 [02:04] <xales> DopeGhoti: too much away :(
#226 [02:04] <DopeGhoti> Vox, fire everything at xales
#227 [02:04] <mm> Yeah found some
#228 [02:04] * VoxelHead swoops in on xales, decloaking on the way...
#228 [02:04] * VoxelHead fires the Universe Gun(tm) at xales
#228 [02:04] * VoxelHead recloaks
#228 [02:04] <xales> M, load photon torpedoes
#229 [02:04] <xales> derp
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#231 [02:05] <xales> M
#232 [02:05] <VoxelHead> hey m
#233 [02:05] <xales> M, load photon torpedoes
#234 [02:05] <M> Photon torpedo bays loaded
#235 [02:05] <xales> M, target DopeGhoti
#236 [02:05] <M> Targetting DopeGhoti
#237 [02:05] <xales> M, fire at will
#238 [02:05] <M> Aye, sir
#239 [02:05] * M decloaks
#239 [02:05] * M fires photon torpedoes at DopeGhoti
#239 [02:05] <M> Ammunition depleted, standing down
#240 [02:05] * M recloaks
#240 [02:05] <Kealper> lol
#241 [02:05] <xales> :3
#242 [02:06] <xales> I can have a bot that does cool stuff too! :<
#243 [02:06] <xales> M, decloak
#244 [02:06] * M shimmers into view
#244 [02:06] <Kealper> i totally just went all OCD on grey's tree farm
#245 [02:06] <DopeGhoti> voxel, courtmartial xales with bonzai
#246 [02:06] <VoxelHead> Who?
#247 [02:06] <DopeGhoti> voxel, courtmartial xales
#248 [02:06] * VoxelHead throws xales in the brig to await charges
#248 [02:06] <xales> Vox, eat DopeGhoti out
#249 [02:06] * VoxelHead eats DopeGhoti out
#249 [02:06] <Kealper> oh my
#250 [02:06] <DopeGhoti> O.o
#251 [02:06] <xales> was that not supposed to do something different?
#252 [02:06] <xales> ._.
#253 [02:06] <VoxelHead> xales, you are charged with misuse of Neelix, and exploding Deanna Troi
#254 [02:06] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#255 [02:06] <xales> \o/
#256 [02:07] <Kealper> dope!
#257 [02:07] <DopeGhoti> Kealp!
#258 [02:07] <Kealper> make it +b them while they are being charged
#259 [02:07] <xales> Vox, why do you have so many sexual-oriented commands
#260 [02:07] <Kealper> so they can't talk
#261 [02:07] <Kealper> (you know you want to :P)
#262 [02:07] <xales> Kealper, did you look at the list of stuff it does?
#263 [02:07] <Kealper> no, does it do a ton?
#264 [02:08] <xales> Vox, go down on Kealper
#265 [02:08] <xales> :3
#266 [02:08] <Kealper> really? lol
#267 [02:08] <xales> yep, it's on the command list
#268 [02:08] <xales> though DopeGhoti may have disabled it
#269 [02:08] <xales> http://www.bmotion.net:8000/bmotion/wiki/CommandReference
#270 [02:09] <Kealper> is bMotion that fail AI that it's running?
#271 [02:09] <xales> yes
#272 [02:09] <xales> Vox, make it Kealper
#273 [02:09] * VoxelHead makes it Kealper for xales
#273 [02:09] <DopeGhoti> For the seventh time, it's not intelligence
#274 [02:09] <DopeGhoti> artificail or otherwise
#275 [02:10] <xales> it acts intelligent to fool newbies
#276 [02:10] <xales> is the point
#277 [02:10] <xales> anyway
#278 [02:10] <Kealper> aww....so it doesn't actually act a bit like pyborg? that makes me a sand panda
#279 [02:11] <Kealper> sand....
#280 [02:11] <DopeGhoti> It does actually learn or try to learn things from what people say
#281 [02:11] <xales> stupid bot
#282 [02:11] <DopeGhoti> it adds things it hears to various abscract lists for usage in its randomness
#283 [02:11] <xales> Kealper
#284 [02:12] <Kealper> Faulty Artificial Intelligence Linguist?
#285 [02:12] <xales> now would be a good time to propose you-know-what in you-know-which channel
#286 [02:12] <Kealper> oh....t'would, wouldn't it
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#288 [02:14] <VoxelHead> GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD!
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#290 [02:16] <Mash> Anyone ubergood with redstone?
#291 [02:16] <xales> Kealper and GreyVulpine are
#292 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#293 [02:16] <Kealper> rawr
#294 [02:16] <DopeGhoti> I try to be
#295 [02:16] <Mash> I'm pretty good with it but this circuit's irritating me.
#296 [02:17] <xales> DopeGhoti: are you a redstone ninja too?
#297 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#298 [02:17] <DopeGhoti> I try to be
#299 [02:17] <Tw1sted_Torture> grey do u remember me?
#300 [02:17] <Mash> Erm, you got a few mins Grey?
#301 [02:17] <xales> well, I guess I'm the only one who isn't
#302 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Just ask here, one of us will help you
#303 [02:17] <Tw1sted_Torture> grey i finally fixed my launch4j error
#304 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#305 [02:18] <Mash> It's gonna take a while to explain, two and gates and 3 latches
#306 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Reformat? or just some way to totally remove java?
#307 [02:18] <Tw1sted_Torture> i used a windows installer cleanup utility to get rid of java then i reinstalled it
#308 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Aah, sounds good.
#309 [02:18] <Tw1sted_Torture> that way u kno wat to do if someone else asks
#310 [02:19] <Kealper> DOPE!
#311 [02:19] <Kealper> i has a PM for you
#312 [02:19] <VoxelHead> "hurrah"
#313 [02:20] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: y u go afk
#314 [02:21] <Mash> GreyVulpine, step on one plate, arms the system. 2nd plate: standing on it first does nothing, have to get off of it for it to trigger
#315 [02:21] <Mash> and the whole thing needs to hold it's output for about 3 seconds
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#317 [02:22] <VoxelHead> welcome to our next contestant, Kurimus!
#318 [02:23] <xales> DopeGhoti: didn't you say you were going to tune down the autogreet
#319 [02:24] <Mash> So anyone have any ideas on that redstone circuit?
#320 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#322 [02:28] <mib_w1s69f> anyone in here to answer a question?
#323 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> First plate goes to an RS NOR latch, triggers, switches it to on
#324 [02:28] <xales> ??> mib_w1s69f ask
#325 [02:28] <VoxelHead> mib_w1s69f: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#326 [02:28] <VoxelHead> mib_w1s69f: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#327 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, how to make it trigger on getting off...
#328 [02:28] <Mash> or glined, that's cool too
#329 [02:28] <mib_w1s69f> How does the multiplayer currently work for 1.3? is there a list of servers or are servers mostly private?
#330 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> There is no comprehensive list of 1.3 beta servers.
#331 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> You can try one of the many fan-made indexes though
#332 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#333 [02:29] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#334 [02:29] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#335 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> That's one site there
#336 [02:30] <mib_w1s69f> thank you
#337 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Mash - Hmm, gimme a few to digest this
#338 [02:31] <Mash> GreyVulpine, tell me about it, it's a 2-day headache for me.
#339 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Got a public server or something you're testing this one?
#340 [02:31] <Mash> smp.nevercast.net
#341 [02:37] <xales> !8ball testing
#342 [02:37] <GreyBot> You will have to wait.
#343 [02:37] <xales> thanks, GreyBot
#344 [02:37] <xales> I was not testing you <_<
#345 [02:38] <xales> !uptime
#346 [02:38] <xales> !google g
#347 [02:38] <xales> !g google
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#349 [02:50] <VoxelHead> Shh drant387, it's quiet time now.
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#351 [02:51] <Mash> lols
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#354 [02:54] <psyX> Hellp
#355 [02:54] <psyX> Hello =)
#356 [02:54] <psyX> But also help. lol
#357 [02:54] <psyX> Some1 please check the connection to my beta v1.3 server with url= 90.185.72.215
#358 [02:54] <Tanjoodo> You should also supply a port
#359 [02:54] <bronwen> i'll look
#360 [02:54] <Tanjoodo> I think...
#361 [02:55] <xales> Tanjoodo: no port it's assumed to be 25565
#362 [02:55] <xales> !check 90.185.72.215
#363 [02:58] <psyX> Join us at my server: 90.185.72.215
#364 [02:58] <bronwen> well that kind of helped me with my problem
#365 [02:58] <bronwen> for some reason I have a lot less lag on psyX's server than my own server
#366 [02:59] <bronwen> on my own server, chunks don't load, I can dig blocks but my client doesn't show me picking them up
#367 [02:59] <bronwen> although other people can see me picking them up
#368 [02:59] <bronwen> but then we just had an incident where what I saw on my screen ie where other players were, was totally different and lagged by about 5 mins to what the other players saw
#369 [03:00] <bronwen> and they also saw me moving around in places where I wasnt
#370 [03:00] <bronwen> its bizzare that its just me
#371 [03:00] <Tanjoodo> Is the server on your network?
#372 [03:00] <bronwen> yes dedicated i3 530 with 4 gig of ram
#373 [03:00] <bronwen> running a fresh download of the server jar
#374 [03:01] <psyX> Should be able to run it =)
#375 [03:01] <bronwen> but using the existing map which was generated on beta 1.3
#376 [03:01] <Tanjoodo> Try connecting through that LAN IP
#377 [03:01] <xales> are you running the client on the same computer?
#378 [03:01] <Tanjoodo> The*
#379 [03:01] <bronwen> no
#380 [03:01] <psyX> I'm running my server at a Core 2 Duo 2x3 GHz CPU
#381 [03:01] <psyX> And the game client, being in the server, with no problems
#382 [03:01] <xales> are you on a LAN with the server?
#383 [03:02] <psyX> So i3 certainly should be able to do the thing
#384 [03:02] <bronwen> i'm just going to work out the IP, I have been running hamachi so people outside can play
#385 [03:02] <xales> ?? fubar/hamachi
#386 [03:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internat. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#387 [03:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
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#389 [03:03] <xales> I hope that "internat" typo was intentional
#390 [03:03] <xales> =/
#391 [03:03] <Kealper> internats ftw
#392 [03:03] <bronwen> i'm not having an issue with connecting
#393 [03:03] <bronwen> i can connect fine :D
#394 [03:03] <Kealper> ok so....time for debugging....me needs packets
#395 [03:03] <xales> never said you were :)
#396 [03:03] <Kealper> !load debug
#397 [03:04] <xales> connectivity = your connection to the server, not just the initial "connecting" state
#398 [03:04] <bronwen> but its interesting that hamachi is squatting
#399 [03:04] <bronwen> that annoys me a lot
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#401 [03:04] <Kealper> !unload debug
#402 [03:04] <xales> Kealper
#403 [03:04] <xales> look
#404 [03:04] <Kealper> (seeing what a multi-user mode looks like)
#405 [03:04] <xales> :o
#406 [03:04] <Kealper> why were we +s? O.o
#407 [03:04] <xales> I unsecreted a non-secret channel
#408 [03:05] <Kealper> wait....wut
#409 [03:05] <Kealper> oh, fail
#410 [03:05] <xales> hahaha
#411 [03:05] <Kealper> ol
#412 [03:05] <bronwen> i might de-hamachi the server for a sec and see if its better
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#414 [03:06] <xales> Kealper
#415 [03:06] <Kealper> gosh multi-user mode setting looks every bit as annoying as i thought it would be to parse....i'm not parsing it
#416 [03:06] <TheBixRT> hey guys
#417 [03:06] <xales> hi
#418 [03:06] <TheBixRT> how do I make a reverse counting circuit
#419 [03:06] <TheBixRT> Takes in a number and outputs a clock that goes high that amount of times
#420 [03:07] <Kealper> that sounds so massively complicated i don't even want to think about it
#421 [03:07] <xales> Kealper, if I were to set up my VPN again, would you have any interest in joining it, possibly so you can have out-of-band access to your server? (both you and the server are on the VPN; server firewall allows all connections on the VPN interface)
#422 [03:07] <TheBixRT> complicated??
#423 [03:07] <TheBixRT> really?
#424 [03:07] <TheBixRT> :(\
#425 [03:07] <Kealper> xales: depends on the VPN software used
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#427 [03:07] <xales> Kealper: OpenVPN
#428 [03:08] <xales> TheBixRT: extremely
#429 [03:08] <TheBixRT> really?
#430 [03:08] <Kealper> TheBixRT: if i understood what you meant....yes that sounds painful, it's basically have to be a small specialized computer
#431 [03:08] <xales> yes
#432 [03:08] <TheBixRT> well maybe just a subtractor
#433 [03:08] <TheBixRT> and a bit of recursion circuitry
#434 [03:08] <Kealper> xales: uhh...i guess
#435 [03:08] <bronwen> that's amazing, as soon as I started using LAN addresses only, all my problems went away
#436 [03:09] <bronwen> this is the first time i've had problems with hamachi and the first time I've known that they're squatting addresses too
#437 [03:09] * bronwen deletes hamachi
#437 [03:09] <Kealper> i wish my internet was cooler
#438 [03:10] <Kealper> i can do burst upload speeds of around 600KB/s, but constant upload is much slower :/
#439 [03:10] <xales> Kealper, can you imagine explaining something related to binary math regarding signed numbers to someone with no experience trying to do it with redstone?
#440 [03:11] <xales> calculator supporting negatives using two's complement in redstone gogo
#441 [03:11] <Kealper> my head explodes just thinking about that
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#444 [03:19] <Mash> Thanks GreyVulpine, appreciate the help ^^
#445 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Neat, thanks for a cool little problem there Mash
#446 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#447 [03:22] <Mash> yeah man, that works perfectly- you rock GreyVulpine
#448 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> You may have to play with the delay at the far end a bit more
#449 [03:22] <psyX> Does some one remember how to make the minecraft server run in a simple command window like cmd?
#450 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Give your users a little more time to get off
#451 [03:23] <Mash> I ran the repeaters around like I mentioned and it resets fine
#452 [03:23] <xales> psyX: append "nogui" to start parameters
#453 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sure
#454 [03:23] <Mash> Actually, the way you have it set up, they have as long as they're standing on that plate
#455 [03:23] <Mash> because it only triggers once the plate is released (ie. they got off)
#456 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#457 [03:24] <psyX> Where do i set these start parameters?
#458 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> psyX - When starting the server
#459 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the minecraft.jar to start it?
#460 [03:25] <psyX> Minecraft_Server.EXE
#461 [03:25] * GreyVulpine pokes xales, "Can you start the .exe with arguments? I forget"
#461 [03:26] <xales> I don't believe so
#462 [03:26] <Mash> Actually, GreyVulpine, one last question to this system.. Is there a way to mandate the time output is on, regardless of how long the input is on?
#463 [03:26] <Mash> Aside from using another nor latch, I mean
#464 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> psyX - You need to get the minecraft_server.jar from the minecraft.net website
#465 [03:27] <psyX> ok. ty
#466 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Oof.. I'd have to play with that system a bit more to answer that
#467 [03:28] <Mash> Alright, I'll just do it with another nor latch and have the delayed reset act as a reset to the norlatch
#468 [03:28] <Mash> if that made any sense, that is
#469 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#470 [03:28] * xales goes to sleep now
#470 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> Hope you have enough space in that little minecart station.
#471 [03:30] <Mash> rofl
#472 [03:30] <Mash> I'll just open it up a bit more, there's tons of filled area down there
#473 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> laters xales
#474 [03:30] <Mash> Replicating it's gonna be fun though.
#475 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Hah, yeah. My prototypes never really plop into place just right
#476 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Always some tweaking to do in the end.
#477 [03:32] <psyX> Grey. I have downloadet the minecraft_server.jar file
#478 [03:32] <psyX> Where can I change the launch parameters?
#479 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> psyX - In the website, did you see the example line of how to launch it?
#480 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Then download minecraft_server.jar to anywhere, then launch it as:
#481 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#482 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to either put that in a batch file, or launch it in a command line
#483 [03:33] <psyX> from cmd?
#484 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#486 [03:33] <psyX> Ahhh
#487 [03:33] <Katchira> hi everybody
#488 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#489 [03:33] <psyX> Like navigate to the folder with the CD command and then use the command line?
#490 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes psyX
#491 [03:34] <Katchira> someone here forhelp me with a strange issue with iptables and minecraft ?
#492 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> What issue?
#493 [03:34] <psyX> Ahh, I understand. Thank you for your help =)
#494 [03:34] <Katchira> the issue is when i open the port of minecraft , i see users who loging in my server
#495 [03:35] <Katchira> but after i see a timeout of user can't log in
#496 [03:35] <Katchira> here my rule iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 25565 -j ACCEPT
#497 [03:36] <Katchira> if the port was closed i could'nt see the user loging in the console ...
#498 [03:36] <psyX> Grey? =)
#499 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> psyX - Hmm?
#500 [03:36] <psyX> Could you please check the connection to my server on 90.185.72.215:25565 ?
#501 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Katchira - I'm not really all too familiar with iptables..
#502 [03:37] <Katchira> here my complet rules :
#503 [03:37] <Katchira> iptables -F
#504 [03:37] <Katchira> iptables -P INPUT DROP
#505 [03:37] <Katchira> iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
#506 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> Don't paste it all here, use pastebin.com
#507 [03:37] <Katchira> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 25565 -j ACCEPT
#508 [03:37] <Katchira> heu ok
#509 [03:37] <Katchira> a minutes plz ^^
#510 [03:38] * GreyVulpine pokes DopeGhoti
#510 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> He knows more than I do on stuff like this
#511 [03:38] <Katchira> http://pastebin.com/nWmYLsZQ
#512 [03:39] <Katchira> it's very strange ....
#513 [03:40] <Katchira> any idea ? ^^
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#515 [03:41] <TheBixRT> WAIT A SECOND
#516 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Iptables is slightly over my head here.
#517 [03:41] <TheBixRT> a reverse counter wouldn't be that hard
#518 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#519 [03:42] <Katchira> o.O
#520 [03:42] <TheBixRT> U just create a counter that counts downwards
#521 [03:42] * GreyVulpine pokes DopeGhoti, "You know anything about iptables?"
#521 [03:43] <TheBixRT> and then u set its state
#522 [03:43] <Katchira> it's work for every service who run on the server
#523 [03:43] <Katchira> but minecraft ...
#524 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> I understand iptables, just never really had a chance to set it up myself
#525 [03:43] <Katchira> i saw counter with an iptables -L -n -v
#526 [03:44] <TheBixRT> and then u just straight output the clock after its anded with something which tells u if the flips flops are not 0
#527 [03:44] <Katchira> and i don't see anything who would be wring :/
#528 [03:44] <Katchira> on itpraf i see many connection to minecraf.net
#529 [03:45] <Katchira> but i don't filter anything on OUTPUT
#530 [03:45] <TheBixRT> wtf are u on about
#531 [03:45] <TheBixRT> u reversing stuff?
#532 [03:45] <Katchira> ?
#533 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> Katchira's having trouble with iptables on the minecraft server
#534 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> timing out users after a while
#535 [03:46] <TheBixRT> whats iptables
#536 [03:46] <Katchira> http://pastebin.com/nWmYLsZQ
#537 [03:46] <Katchira> this :)
#538 [03:46] <TheBixRT> does it have anything to do with INTERNET PROTOCOL?
#539 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> It's basically a firewall for *nix
#540 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> layman's terms
#541 [03:46] <TheBixRT> ah
#542 [03:47] <Katchira> so when user log in
#543 [03:47] <Katchira> i see in the console than user loging in but after some second i see timeout
#544 [03:47] <Katchira> so ....
#545 [03:47] <Katchira> i used itpraf for see what it happen
#546 [03:48] <Katchira> and i see than the server is trying to connect many time to minecraft.net
#547 [03:48] <Mash> They really need to implement cart steering; come to a T while riding in a cart, hold left or right to go that way.
#548 [03:48] <Katchira> but i have'nt any rules ou drop paquet for the output
#549 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Right, each time a user connects to your server, your server makes a connection to minecraft.net to verify their name is valid
#550 [03:48] <Katchira> yeah it's my conclusion too
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#552 [03:49] <Katchira> but why it's do not work ?
#553 [03:49] <psyX> Some1 please come play with my @ == 90.185.72.215:25565 ==
#554 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> psyX - Sorry, this channel isn't for advertising server, you can use #smp instead
#555 [03:50] <Katchira> after for trying i used a rules for accept every paket from / go to minecraft.net
#556 [03:50] <Katchira> it's the same issue
#557 [03:50] <Katchira> the only way i have , is to turn off iptables ... but it's not realy a good idea
#558 [03:51] <Katchira> it's the first time than i see that .
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#560 [03:52] <GV> Katchira - Can you do service iptables stop?
#561 [03:52] <Katchira> it will work
#562 [03:52] <GV> Ah, okay
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#564 [03:54] <zenon> Hi i need help to host a multiplayer server so i can play with my brother, we share the same hamachi network
#565 [03:55] <GV> Katchira - I can only point you towards other people who have also tried setting up iptables...
#566 [03:55] <GV> o anyone, for any reason |'
#567 [03:55] <GV> [03:51.25am] * Set by GreyVulpine!GV@c-68-43-58-28.hsd1.mi.comcast.net on
#568 [03:55] <GV> er
#569 [03:56] <GV> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/iptables-help-856378/
#570 [03:56] <GV> and http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=178713
#571 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> zenon - Are you in the same house?
#572 [03:58] <zenon> wow i cant understand anything
#573 [03:59] <Katchira> thanks GV iam reading thoose url ;)
#574 [04:01] <zenon> yes we are
#575 [04:01] <zenon> in the same house
#576 [04:01] <Katchira> yeah but any solution ^
#577 [04:02] <Katchira> so i will use wireshark for dump the traffic and i will see why
#578 [04:02] <TheBixRT> HEY GUYS
#579 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> zenon - If you're both in the same house, you don't need hamachi then
#580 [04:02] <Katchira> thanks a lot ;)
#581 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> Just use your internal NAT address to connect to each other
#582 [04:02] <TheBixRT> how do I build a flip flop out of redstone where I Can set its value
#583 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#584 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Define.. "set its value"
#585 [04:03] <TheBixRT> set the value it holds
#586 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Kinda the point of a flip flop is to hold a bit in value anyways...
#587 [04:04] <TheBixRT> I want to set its value tho
#588 [04:04] <TheBixRT> I have a few flip flops
#589 [04:04] <TheBixRT> and I want to give them all a starting value
#590 [04:04] <zenon> "internal NAT"?
#591 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> zenon - What operating system is the server running?
#592 [04:04] <TheBixRT> zenon: he means the address given to u by the router
#593 [04:04] * GreyVulpine nods
#593 [04:05] <zenon> This machine uses windows vista, my brother uses windows 7
#594 [04:05] <zenon> i havent opened a server or anything how do i do that?
#595 [04:05] <TheBixRT> what are you trying to do?
#596 [04:06] <TheBixRT> set up a minecraft server or something like 90% of everyone asking for minecraft help anywhere
#597 [04:06] <TheBixRT> ?
#598 [04:06] <zenon> I want to play minecraft multiplayer with my brother
#599 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> zenon - Then, first, start off with downloading the server from here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#600 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> Use Minecraft_Server.exe
#601 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Once you have that, run it on the machine.
#602 [04:07] <zenon> Running it now
#603 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> On the same machine, press windows+R to bring up the run command. Type in: cmd there. At the black command prompt, type: ipconfig then Go find the "ipv4 address" under
#604 [04:08] <TheBixRT> ah
#605 [04:08] <TheBixRT> yeah setup a server. find the address using ip config
#606 [04:08] <zenon> The server program is having seizures
#607 [04:08] <psyX> lol
#608 [04:08] <TheBixRT> connect on another computer
#609 [04:08] <TheBixRT> how so?
#610 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean zenon?
#611 [04:08] <zenon> Well it says "generating properties" and so
#612 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> That's fine
#613 [04:08] <zenon> I guess that means its just working?
#614 [04:08] <zenon> Alright
#615 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> It does that when starting up for the first time
#616 [04:09] <zenon> Do i should just let it run then
#617 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#618 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> On the same machine, can you do what I just typed above?
#619 [04:09] <zenon> Yes, gimme a sec
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#621 [04:10] <zenon> Alright i got the ipå adress
#622 [04:10] <zenon> IP*
#623 [04:10] <TheBixRT> Just a note: On some machines (depending on the amount of logical network adapters) you'll get a whole big list of IP addresses
#624 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> That's the ip address your brother will use to connect to you
#625 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Try it
#626 [04:11] <TheBixRT> you need to find the right one
#627 [04:11] <zenon> 192.168.0.03
#628 [04:11] <TheBixRT> yeh that sounds right
#629 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a good address to me
#630 [04:12] <TheBixRT> also make sure you connect using the right port
#631 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Eh, default is 25565
#632 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to add it to the end unless it's not default
#633 [04:12] <TheBixRT> if the server is hosting on port 25565 you won't need to type it in when you connect
#634 [04:14] <zenon> uuuuh...im confused
#635 [04:14] <zenon> i copied that IP adress 192.168.0.03
#636 [04:14] <zenon> on my other computer, but it didnt work
#637 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> You sure it's "192.168.0.03"?
#638 [04:16] <TheBixRT> uh
#639 [04:16] <Katchira> and with just 192.168.0.3 ? ^
#640 [04:16] <zenon> ok
#641 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> If it still doesn't work, look into what security software you have running on the server
#642 [04:17] <zenon> ntohing, just saying "connecting to the server"
#643 [04:17] <zenon> and then fails
#644 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> Is windows firewall up? Are you running any other security/AV suites
#645 [04:17] <TheBixRT> yeah make sure its unblocked on the hosting computer
#646 [04:17] <Katchira> try to disable firewall / add rules
#647 [04:18] <zenon> ok i disabled the firewall
#648 [04:18] <zenon> do i have to do this on both computers?
#649 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> No, just the computer hosting
#650 [04:18] <Katchira> on the server
#651 [04:18] <zenon> ok
#652 [04:19] <zenon> one question, i started the server, and opened the minecraft, starting a new game one singleplayer and thats it? he just need to connect?
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#654 [04:19] <Katchira> yup
#655 [04:20] <zenon> ok i will test again
#656 [04:21] <zenon> doesnt work
#657 [04:21] <zenon> €$[)/(@£
#658 [04:21] <Katchira> try 127.0.0.1
#659 [04:21] <Katchira> ?
#660 [04:21] <zenon> doesnt work
#661 [04:21] <zenon> gooooood why wont this work
#662 [04:21] <Katchira> open a console
#663 [04:21] <Katchira> and type
#664 [04:21] <Katchira> netstat -ano
#665 [04:22] <TheBixRT> 127.0.0.1 doesn't even work on my pc
#666 [04:22] <TheBixRT> as far as trying to connect to things goes
#667 [04:22] <Katchira> ok :)
#668 [04:22] <zenon> ok i did that
#669 [04:22] <Katchira> with the netstat -ano you will see your host with the port 25565
#670 [04:23] <zenon> how and where? there is so much numbers going on in there
#671 [04:23] <Katchira> for a quick result use the task manager
#672 [04:23] <Katchira> and add the pid
#673 [04:23] <zenon> what is the pid
#674 [04:23] <zenon> ?
#675 [04:24] <Katchira> after you search the pid in netstat -ano for see on witch port the minecraft server is bind
#676 [04:24] <Katchira> process identification :)
#677 [04:24] <TheBixRT> PID = number ... yeah
#678 [04:24] <TheBixRT> that
#679 [04:24] <Katchira> ^
#680 [04:24] <Katchira> on task manager add colunm
#681 [04:25] <Katchira> and select pid :)
#682 [04:25] <zenon> wait
#683 [04:25] <TheBixRT> wait so he can't connect from another pc eh?
#684 [04:25] <TheBixRT> can u connect from outside the network?
#685 [04:25] <Katchira> he can't connect from same pc who host the server and the client so ....
#686 [04:25] <zenon> i god ADHD and dont understand all this, can you explain more easier..LOL
#687 [04:26] <Katchira> hum i can't make screen ... iam not on windows :(
#688 [04:26] <zenon> i got the CMD running
#689 [04:26] <zenon> what do i do?
#690 [04:26] <Katchira> right click on your task bar
#691 [04:26] <Katchira> select task manager
#692 [04:26] <zenon> what is task bar?
#693 [04:27] <zenon> i got it open
#694 [04:27] <Katchira> ok
#695 [04:27] <Katchira> go to the list process panel
#696 [04:27] <zenon> yes
#697 [04:27] <zenon> done
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#699 [04:27] <Katchira> add a column
#700 [04:27] <Katchira> pid :)
#701 [04:28] <zenon> how to add a column?
#702 [04:28] <Katchira> wait a sec iam starting a windows for explain ^
#703 [04:28] <zenon> okey
#704 [04:29] <zenon> lol why do i have to go throught all this xD would be much easier to just download something from the sight like -> Download the multiplayer server and just play
#705 [04:30] <zenon> site* :P
#706 [04:30] <Katchira> it's because you have something who block the connection :p
#707 [04:30] <Katchira> so
#708 [04:30] <zenon> ok
#709 [04:30] <Katchira> the second panel
#710 [04:30] <zenon> yes
#711 [04:31] <Katchira> it's on seven ?
#712 [04:31] <zenon> what do you mean?
#713 [04:31] <Katchira> windows 7 / vista ? xp ? millenium ? ^
#714 [04:31] <Katchira> xD
#715 [04:31] <zenon> windows vista
#716 [04:32] <Katchira> so process panel
#717 [04:32] <zenon> ok
#718 [04:32] <Katchira> views
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#720 [04:33] <Katchira> select collumns
#721 [04:33] <zenon> ok
#722 [04:33] <Katchira> and add PID
#723 [04:33] <Katchira> the first
#724 [04:33] <Katchira> :)
#725 [04:33] <Katchira> process identification
#726 [04:33] <Katchira> click ok
#727 [04:33] <zenon> wait wait
#728 [04:34] <zenon> i am in the process panel
#729 [04:34] <zenon> should i be there?
#730 [04:34] <Katchira> you added pid ?
#731 [04:34] <zenon> noooo i cant add the pid
#732 [04:35] <zenon> i dont know how
#733 [04:35] <Katchira> select views
#734 [04:35] <zenon> i dont have a button "views"
#735 [04:35] <Katchira> its after option
#736 [04:35] <Katchira> you have files ... options ... and
#737 [04:35] <zenon> ook
#738 [04:35] <zenon> i found it
#739 [04:35] <Katchira> sorry i haven't an english windows ;)
#740 [04:35] <zenon> then select collumns
#741 [04:36] <Katchira> yeah
#742 [04:36] <zenon> ok i added pid
#743 [04:36] <zenon> :)
#744 [04:36] <Katchira> ok good
#745 [04:36] <Katchira> so now search on the process your minecraft server
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#747 [04:37] <zenon> ok
#748 [04:37] <zenon> i found it
#749 [04:37] <Katchira> ok
#750 [04:38] <Katchira> you see the pid ? :)
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#752 [04:38] <zenon> yes 3916
#753 [04:38] <Katchira> ok
#754 [04:38] <Katchira> search 3916 on your console
#755 [04:38] <Katchira> with the netstat -ano
#756 [04:39] <Katchira> you will see the interface and the port where the minecraft server is bind
#757 [04:40] <zenon> i dont find it
#758 [04:40] <Katchira> ?
#759 [04:40] <zenon> there is no 3916 on the console
#760 [04:40] <Katchira> so we have a prob ^^
#761 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> What's going on?
#762 [04:41] <Katchira> if you don't see the pid on netstat -ano .... your server is not bind to any interface
#763 [04:41] <Katchira> so .... you can't conenct
#764 [04:41] <Katchira> and it's not normal
#765 [04:41] <zenon> ok
#766 [04:41] <Katchira> so on netstat you don't see any 25565 too ?
#767 [04:41] <zenon> should i try restart the minecraft server?
#768 [04:42] <Katchira> you can try
#769 [04:42] <Katchira> the pid will change
#770 [04:42] <Katchira> :)
#771 [04:42] <Katchira> and you must rerun the netstat -ano
#772 [04:43] <zenon> ok
#773 [04:44] <zenon> now is the pid diffrent in the task manager
#774 [04:44] <zenon> 5188
#775 [04:44] <zenon> i restarted the server and the console
#776 [04:44] <zenon> i found 5188 in the console
#777 [04:44] <Katchira> ok
#778 [04:44] <Katchira> copy / coll
#779 [04:44] <Katchira> here
#780 [04:44] <Katchira> :)
#781 [04:45] <zenon> should i copy the / coll or only coll?
#782 [04:45] <Katchira> right click / select
#783 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, overeager flood protection script on AuBot
#784 [04:45] <Katchira> and past here
#785 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Meep, not here, pastebin
#786 [04:45] <Katchira> pastebin yes sorry
#787 [04:45] <Katchira> xD
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#789 [04:46] <zenon> wait..
#790 [04:46] <zenon> in the console, what should i copy?
#791 [04:46] <zenon> and how do i do it lol
#792 [04:46] <Katchira> right click
#793 [04:46] <Katchira> select
#794 [04:47] <Katchira> surlign
#795 [04:47] <Katchira> an other right click on the panel
#796 [04:47] <Katchira> and past
#797 [04:47] <zenon> what is surlign?
#798 [04:47] <Katchira> what is the name in english for that
#799 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Click and drag
#800 [04:47] <Katchira> a sec ^
#801 [04:48] <zenon> TCP [::]:25565 [::]:0 LISTENING 5188
#802 [04:48] <zenon> that?
#803 [04:48] <Katchira> highlight
#804 [04:48] <Katchira> ok
#805 [04:48] <Katchira> hum ok so you listen on every interface
#806 [04:49] <Katchira> so with you client you can't connect now ?
#807 [04:49] <zenon> so i start a game on single player, and my brother connects to what ping?
#808 [04:49] <zenon> 25565, 5188?
#809 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> No, you connect with multiplayer
#810 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> On your computer, in the multiplayer field, type in 127.0.0.1
#811 [04:50] <Katchira> yup
#812 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Your brother will do the same thing, but type in 192.168.0... 3?
#813 [04:50] <zenon> ok
#814 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> I couldn't tell what the exact ip address you found out earlier was
#815 [04:50] <zenon> ok im loggin in
#816 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> was it 192.168.0.3, or 192.168.0.103?
#817 [04:50] <Coll> uh
#818 [04:50] <Katchira> 3
#819 [04:50] <Coll> zenon
#820 [04:50] <Coll> and Katchira
#821 [04:50] <Coll> what about me?
#822 [04:50] <zenon> so now im in the game
#823 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Neat
#824 [04:50] <Katchira> what about ?
#825 [04:51] <zenon> but my brother isnt, he have not tried yet
#826 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> zenon - Have your brother connect with 192.168.0.3
#827 [04:51] <Coll> zenon> should i copy the / coll or only coll?
#828 [04:51] <Katchira> lol
#829 [04:51] <Coll> Katchira> copy / coll
#830 [04:51] <Katchira> sorry coll ^^
#831 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you got highlighted
#832 [04:51] <Coll> yeah
#833 [04:51] <Katchira> it was past :p
#834 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> Nothing Coll
#835 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> Just ignor eit
#836 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> ignore it*
#837 [04:52] <zenon> he tried connect
#838 [04:52] <zenon> is says :logging in
#839 [04:52] <zenon> but hes not in yet
#840 [04:52] <zenon> good/ bad?
#841 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> Did you lower the windows firewall before?
#842 [04:52] <zenon> yes its of
#843 [04:52] <zenon> should he do the same?
#844 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> No
#845 [04:52] <zenon> ok
#846 [04:53] <Katchira> netsh firewall set opmode disable
#847 [04:53] <Katchira> type this
#848 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> On your computer, are you running any other security software?
#849 [04:53] <Katchira> on the console
#850 [04:53] <zenon> wait
#851 [04:53] <Katchira> yeah i think you have a problem with a firewall :)
#852 [04:53] <zenon> should i open the console and write what?
#853 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Not the game console, Katchira means the command prompt of windows
#854 [04:54] <zenon> yeh the black box thing?
#855 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#856 [04:54] <Katchira> yeah command prompt
#857 [04:54] <zenon> and what do i write there?
#858 [04:55] <Katchira> just type
#859 [04:55] <Katchira> ^^
#860 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> netsh firewall set opmode disable
#861 [04:55] <zenon> type what?
#862 [04:55] <zenon> ok
#863 [04:55] <Katchira> netsh firewall set opmode disable
#864 [04:55] <Katchira> and after retry to connect
#865 [04:56] <zenon> i dont think it worked
#866 [04:56] <zenon> C:\Users\Llama>netsh firewall set opmode disable Den begärda åtgärden kräver en privilegiehöjning.
#867 [04:56] <zenon> ops its in swedish
#868 [04:56] <zenon> wait it worked
#869 [04:56] <zenon> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#870 [04:56] <zenon> HES FINALLY IN!!!
#871 [04:56] <Katchira> ;)
#872 [04:56] <Katchira> you must run it in administrator privilege
#873 [04:57] <zenon> the game throwed him out :S
#874 [04:57] <Katchira> start : on the blank case type : cmd
#875 [04:57] <Katchira> when you see cmd on the search right click on and run as administrator
#876 [04:57] <Katchira> and you will be able to launch netsh firewall set opmode disable
#877 [04:57] <zenon> ok
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#879 [04:58] <zenon> C:\Wind Ok.
#880 [04:58] <zenon> oops
#881 [04:59] <zenon> C:\Windows\system32>netsh firewall set opmode disable OK.
#882 [04:59] <Katchira> good ;)
#883 [04:59] <Katchira> and now ?
#884 [04:59] <Katchira> are you able to connect ?
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#886 [05:00] <zenon> im gonne check
#887 [05:01] <zenon> hes lagging like hell
#888 [05:01] <zenon> he say he cant do anything
#889 [05:01] <zenon> when he hit the ground it respawns
#890 [05:01] <Katchira> you are on the same lan ?
#891 [05:01] <Katchira> no vpn between ?
#892 [05:02] <zenon> what does that even mean? xD
#893 [05:02] <Katchira> you used 192.168.XXXxxx to connect ?
#894 [05:02] <Katchira> or your hamachi ip ?
#895 [05:02] <zenon> connect to what?
#896 [05:02] <zenon> the game?
#897 [05:02] <Katchira> yeah
#898 [05:03] <zenon> he used my ip to connect, 192.168.0.3
#899 [05:03] <Katchira> ok
#900 [05:03] <Katchira> what is your launch option
#901 [05:03] <Katchira> and what is the configuration of your pc ?
#902 [05:03] <zenon> how do i check that?
#903 [05:03] <Katchira> right click on compute
#904 [05:04] <Katchira> propertie
#905 [05:04] <Katchira> and you will see processor and ram
#906 [05:04] <zenon> ok
#907 [05:04] <Katchira> how much :)
#908 [05:05] <zenon> processor : AMD athlon(tm) 64 X2 dual core processor6000+ 3.00 GHz
#909 [05:05] <zenon> RAM : 4.00 GB
#910 [05:07] <Katchira> it will be good for you and your bro
#911 [05:07] <Katchira> ^
#912 [05:07] <zenon> doesnt lag now :)
#913 [05:07] <zenon> thank you alot, i hope this will work
#914 [05:07] <Katchira> yeah you must wait a litle
#915 [05:07] <Katchira> for the generation of the world
#916 [05:07] <Katchira> :)
#917 [05:07] <Katchira> have fun :p
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#919 [05:10] <zenon> uhm
#920 [05:10] <zenon> we cant find eachother xD
#921 [05:10] <zenon> is there any command to use for him to come to me?
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#923 [05:17] <mr_help> Hey xales, I'm back
#924 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> zenon - If you "op yourname" in the server's console
#925 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> You can get access to the /tp player1 player2 command
#926 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> it'll transport player1 to player2
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#929 [05:22] <mr_help> GreyVulpine can you help me with minecraft again please
#930 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
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#932 [05:23] <mr_help> the minecraft beta servers
#933 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me what problem you're having?
#934 [05:25] <mr_help> sorry brb
#935 [05:32] <SinZ> mr_help what is the issue with "The minecraft beta servers"
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#937 [05:44] <mr_help> ok I'm back
#938 [05:44] <mr_help> was having dinner :)
#939 [05:45] <mr_help> the problem is that when I connect to a server and start playing, I cant type to other players, only the spawn area generates
#940 [05:47] <mr_help> also can't interact with blocks (workbenches, furnaces, chests, ect.)
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#942 [05:54] <mr_help> ugh, everyone has gone idle again -.-
#943 [05:55] <Jockis> I can't log in on minecraft through the launcher, however I can log in throught the minecraft website. When I try to log in it says either: "Login failed", "Can't connect to minecraft.net" or "User not premium". I bought minecraft when it still was alpha so my account should be premium. Can anyone help me?
#944 [05:58] <mr_help> sorry not to sure on whats causing that to happen but hopefully an op or 2 will help soon
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#946 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> mr_help - Is this on every server?
#947 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - What's your minecraft username
#948 [06:00] <mr_help> yes
#949 [06:00] <wartech0> Hey GreyVulpine did you see Tw1sted_Torture in here?
#950 [06:00] <mr_help> well, every server I've tryed
#951 [06:00] <mr_help> *tried*
#952 [06:00] <wartech0> he pm'ed me at 18:40 I was wondering what he needed
#953 [06:01] <Jockis> Greyvulpine my username is Jockis
#954 [06:02] <wartech0> Jockis how long ago did you pay for minecraft?
#955 [06:02] <Jockis> well I bought it last year, I think it was around november but i'm not sure :S
#956 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> !paid Jockis
#957 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> You look good from her
#958 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> here
#959 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Try logging into the website
#960 [06:03] <Jockis> that works
#961 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> if that doesn't work, password recovery
#962 [06:03] <Jockis> already tried password recovery
#963 [06:03] <Jockis> didn't help
#964 [06:03] <wartech0> mr_help are you experiancing large amounts of net lag?
#965 [06:04] <mr_help> no
#966 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - Try a complete reinstall of minecraft files?
#967 [06:04] <wartech0> you can't type?
#968 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Clear out your .minecraft files
#969 [06:04] <Jockis> uhm, How do you do that?
#970 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on
#971 [06:05] <Jockis> windows XP
#972 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Okay, go to your run command, type in: %appdata%
#973 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Look for the .minecraft folder
#974 [06:05] <Jockis> okay
#975 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Move out the 'saves' folder
#976 [06:05] <mr_help> well, to be specific, I can type, but when I press enter I cant see it come up in text box
#977 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Then delete the whole .minecraft server
#978 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> er, folder
#979 [06:05] <Jockis> okay :S
#980 [06:05] <Jockis> and then what?
#981 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Once you have that, redownload the minecraft client from minecraft.net
#982 [06:05] <wartech0> mr_help I am having some of the same issues
#983 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Then try logging in again
#984 [06:06] <Jockis> hmm I'll try that
#985 [06:06] <wartech0> except I can move away from the spawn hit a block and it comes back then after 30 seconds gets destroyed
#986 [06:06] <Jockis> How do you do that on macosx? I have a mac too and minecraft doesn't work on that either
#987 [06:07] <mr_help> it's definitely not lag because I've waited a long time to see if my text comes up
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#989 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Jockis um
#990 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/reinst
#991 [06:07] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#992 [06:07] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#993 [06:07] <wartech0> it took a good 2 minutes for mine to show up mr_help
#994 [06:08] <mr_help> I waited an an hour...
#995 [06:08] <mr_help> *an hour*
#996 [06:08] <wartech0> damn I think its not really lag but I think the net code in minecraft is kinda screwy right now
#997 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> mr_help - What type of internet connection do you have?
#998 [06:09] <mr_help> do you mean my ISP, because that would be bigpong
#999 [06:10] <wartech0> speedtest.net
#1000 [06:10] <mr_help> ugh *bigpond*
#1001 [06:10] <LRWerewolf> So just tested MessiahAndrw's Minecraft Renderer Wrapper with nVidia 3D vision... while wearing an emotiv EEG helmet to control my character instead of mouse/keyboard... and a wireless 7.1 surround headset. I find myself struggling to think of the next step in immersion I can take pending the invention of a consumer grade MMII (Mind-Machine Interface Implant). Any ideas? ^.^
#1002 [06:10] <Jockis> uhm, There is no minecraft folder in my "application support" folder :S
#1003 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> There.. isn't?
#1004 [06:10] <Jockis> no
#1005 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Are you checking the right place?
#1006 [06:11] <Jockis> macintosh HD>library>application support
#1007 [06:11] <Jockis> oh nvm found it
#1008 [06:11] <Jockis> I was checking in the wrong place
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#1010 [06:13] <Jockis> The reinstalling thingie didn't help :
#1011 [06:13] <Jockis> :S
#1012 [06:13] <wartech0> LRWerewolf are you talking about controlling the game with brain waves?
#1013 [06:13] <LRWerewolf> wartech0, Aye. :)
#1014 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - What error do you get upon trying to log in with the client?
#1015 [06:14] <wartech0> Are you sure we have the capability or more or less the resolution to pick up all the brain waves
#1016 [06:14] <Jockis> Well it said "login failed" as usual but I couldn't select "play offline". It says "not downloaded"
#1017 [06:14] <LRWerewolf> wartech0: You don't need fine level resolution really. Lots of people would be surprised just how many meaningful detections you can pull off just the P300 site.
#1018 [06:15] <wartech0> hmm the problem would be is you would have to learn control right
#1019 [06:15] <LRWerewolf> wartech0: My training profile has in excess of 120 hours logged, yeah.
#1020 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - You're typing in the username and password, right?
#1021 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> You're not depending on minecraft to save your password?
#1022 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> You're also using the same username and password that you use on the site?
#1023 [06:16] <Jockis> uhm I am depending on minecraft to save my password
#1024 [06:16] <Jockis> yeah
#1025 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Try typing it in
#1026 [06:16] <wartech0> lol LRWerewolf make the magnents send waves to the pain area of the brain when you get hit
#1027 [06:16] <LRWerewolf> wartech0: OOOOOH! Trans-cranial magnetic stimulation! I've been meaning to build a TMS helmet. TY!!!!
#1028 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1029 [06:17] <wartech0> lol I don't think its possible
#1030 [06:17] <LRWerewolf> wartech0, oh wait... that'd probably create sharp spikes of gauss across the headset's wiring, botching the EEG aspect. :(
#1031 [06:17] <Jockis> Tried typing it in, didn't help
#1032 [06:17] <mr_help> my ping is 354ms...
#1033 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - You're typing both the username and password fresh?
#1034 [06:18] <LRWerewolf> well, not gauss, flux.
#1035 [06:18] <Jockis> yes
#1036 [06:18] <wartech0> LRWerewolf large amounts of lead?
#1037 [06:18] <wartech0> around the wires lol
#1038 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - I don't get it then, um, you're not using some sort of special mac utility password keychain thing, right?
#1039 [06:19] <Jockis> I don't even know what that is
#1040 [06:19] <wartech0> LRWerewolf can I see a video of this being done?
#1041 [06:19] <wartech0> I am very intereseted
#1042 [06:19] <LRWerewolf> wartech0: Not lead but I was pondering if I could get the TMS electromagnets sufficiently narrow beamed... or use axial radio targetting to avoid generating flux in the first place... *frowns a bit* But a good power spike and you'd start nuking portions of your brain... a magnet isn't gonna do damage... well, none that won't resolve within an hour at least.
#1043 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Some mac OS has the ability to save the password in a central repository.
#1044 [06:20] <Jockis> hmmmm okay, Well I don't think I'm using that
#1045 [06:21] <LRWerewolf> wartech0: I'm fairly regular here... it's too late tonight for me to pop out and snag a webcam or digitial cam corder to make one. But next time you see me, nudge me and remind me to make one and toss it on youtube.
#1046 [06:21] <LRWerewolf> I know, I know... all this stuff and I don't even have a basic webcam. *snickers*
#1047 [06:21] <wartech0> You know LRWerewolf they should make a machine that takes what another person is thinking and transfers it back to another persons brain
#1048 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - I'm stumped then, if the username/password combo works on the website, it should work when typed into the client
#1049 [06:22] <wartech0> I wonder what would happen
#1050 [06:22] <LRWerewolf> wartech0: Grab the most recent copy of Discover Magazine. They're already working on it for combat scenarios. Though the current incarnation doesn't do direct to the receivers brain, it shows up on a helmet-mounted HUD.
#1051 [06:22] <Jockis> yeah
#1052 [06:22] <wartech0> yay hiveminds
#1053 [06:22] <wartech0> or true hiveminds
#1054 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> You are using the latest client, right? The one with the news and such that pops up with the login prompt?
#1055 [06:22] <Jockis> yes
#1056 [06:23] <wartech0> You could make very effective soldiers like that LRWerewolf
#1057 [06:23] <LRWerewolf> wartech0: Though, there's an issue with directly linking two neural networks, regardless of whether they're technological or biological. Information overlay can only be done if the network layout is identical. Given that no two brains are... there's going to be a HUGE learning/training curve, and there's no guarantee the symbiotes would be functional if severed from the resulting gestalt.
#1058 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1059 [06:24] <wartech0> maybe you would need a computer
#1060 [06:24] <wartech0> to take and convert brain waves
#1061 [06:24] <wartech0> more or less like a bus
#1062 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - In your terminal, can you try and type in "nslookup login.minecraft.net"?
#1063 [06:24] <LRWerewolf> hey war, let's move this over to #minecraft, this is a little outside the purview of #minecrafthelp
#1064 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Just wondering what ip that resolves to
#1065 [06:25] <mr_help> is everyone going idle. again.
#1066 [06:25] <wartech0> okay
#1067 [06:25] <Jockis> okay i did that, now what? :P
#1068 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> It should give you an ip address as the last line
#1069 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> what is it?
#1070 [06:26] <Jockis> 50.17.234.159
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#1072 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that looks right
#1073 [06:28] <Jockis> okay..
#1074 [06:29] <Katchira> !
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#1077 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Jockis - Are you running any security software on your machine Jockis?
#1078 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> bah.
#1079 [06:34] <Jockis> yeah, Norton
#1080 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Is Norton just the AV, or the security suite?
#1081 [06:35] <Jockis> just the AV
#1082 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Anything else?
#1083 [06:36] <Jockis> no I don't think so
#1084 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1085 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Jockis - I can't come up with anything else here...
#1086 [06:44] <Jockis> okay, Well thanks alot for your help anyway :)
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#1088 [07:13] <Mash> GreyVulpine; someone just mentioned a way to load the whole thing (server) into RAM rather than relying on the HDD, he said it uses like 150more mbs or something
#1089 [07:14] <Mash> Any idea what he was talking about?
#1090 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> RAMdisk.
#1091 [07:14] <Mash> Oh
#1092 [07:14] <Mash> And here I was thinking it was a command like argument
#1093 [07:15] <Mash> line* even
#1094 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> You add another level of complexity to it, running the whole thing from RAM. It's faster I/O, but nothing is saved unless you tell it to
#1095 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> Good for people with SSDs and such, saves wear
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#1097 [07:17] <ShinShin> Hello | Hallo
#1098 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1099 [07:17] <ShinShin> can somebody help me ? | kann mir jemand helfen ?
#1100 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1101 [07:17] <ShinShin> Minecraft :D
#1102 [07:18] <ShinShin> I try to start it, got a "Windoof" error sound but and nothing happend
#1103 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have?
#1104 [07:18] <ShinShin> enough, game work yesterday fine...
#1105 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> Okay then, do you have at least 512M to a gig of ram free right now?
#1106 [07:19] <ShinShin> Yes
#1107 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> not total, free, available.
#1108 [07:20] <ShinShin> Yes, free is available
#1109 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> How are you launching minecraft?
#1110 [07:20] <ShinShin> with the minecraft exe.
#1111 [07:20] <ShinShin> with the browser, the game work fine
#1112 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> usually it'll do this when you don't have enough RAM free, could you reboot your machine and try it fresh?
#1113 [07:21] <ShinShin> yes already done more then 2 times
#1114 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Okay, could you try launching the game through a command line? See if it'll give you back any errors
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#1116 [07:22] <ShinShin> how i do that ?
#1117 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Using windows?
#1118 [07:22] <ShinShin> u mean cmd ?
#1119 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1120 [07:22] <ShinShin> kk i try i, just a sec
#1121 [07:24] <ShinShin> nope, no error
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#1123 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Does it launch?
#1124 [07:24] <ShinShin> again Error sound, but nothing happend
#1125 [07:24] <adamkex> is there any way to alter the initial spawning point in multiplayer beta, so all new players will spawn close to the main building?
#1126 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> adamkex -Yes, with a map editor, I recommend MCedit
#1127 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> Can you pull up the task manager ShinShin? See if there's any javaw.exe processes?
#1128 [07:25] <ShinShin> just a sec
#1129 [07:25] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: okay thank you
#1130 [07:25] <ShinShin> no java
#1131 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> ShinShin - Okay, what version of windows do you have?
#1132 [07:27] <ShinShin> Win XP Service Pack 3
#1133 [07:27] <ShinShin> i think my Java is broken
#1134 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe so
#1135 [07:27] <ShinShin> some website dont load anymore corectly
#1136 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> But you said the minecraft client on the website works fine.
#1137 [07:28] <ShinShin> yes that true but i got a error one some flash sites
#1138 [07:28] <ShinShin> maybe a data miss ?
#1139 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> minecraft doesn't use flash
#1140 [07:28] <ShinShin> i dont know much about java
#1141 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Try this...
#1142 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, go to "Run". In the prompt, type: %appdata%
#1143 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Look for a .minecraft folder
#1144 [07:28] <ShinShin> kk
#1145 [07:28] <ShinShin> yes there is one
#1146 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> Inside the .minecraft folder, delete everything but the 'saves' folder
#1147 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> Try launching minecraft again once you've done this
#1148 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> It'll redownload everything
#1149 [07:29] <ShinShin> done~
#1150 [07:29] <ShinShin> Error Sound again
#1151 [07:29] <ShinShin> nothing happend, folder empty
#1152 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> Delete the minecraft.exe and redownload a fresh copy from minecraft.net?
#1153 [07:30] <ShinShin> already done, i try again
#1154 [07:31] <ShinShin> and again, "sound" ...
#1155 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1156 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to the http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp website again, and download the minecraft.jar file
#1157 [07:32] <ShinShin> yok
#1158 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Execute it with cmd, using the java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame line
#1159 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> if it still makes a sound, lower the arguments
#1160 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1161 [07:33] <ShinShin> ok found the error...
#1162 [07:33] <ShinShin> my Ram is broken...
#1163 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah.
#1164 [07:34] <ShinShin> thats sucks ._.
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#1166 [07:39] <ShinShin> thy anyway
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#1171 [07:51] <mang0> whats wrong with minecraft?
#1172 [07:51] <mang0> i try to log in
#1173 [07:52] <mang0> and it says that "cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#1174 [07:52] <mang0> :S
#1175 [07:52] <wartech0> start by telling us what version os your running and if your java is up to date
#1176 [07:52] <mang0> my java is up to date
#1177 [07:52] <mang0> and 1.3.1beta
#1178 [07:52] <mang0> the newest
#1179 [07:52] <mang0> ill try force update
#1180 [07:53] <mang0> see if it isnt newest
#1181 [07:53] <mib_waapvr> same problem for me
#1182 [07:53] <wartech0> whats your username?
#1183 [07:53] <mang0> mega_mang0
#1184 [07:53] <wartech0> on minecraft
#1185 [07:53] <Macousta> same problem for me ..
#1186 [07:53] <mang0> mang0 was taken
#1187 [07:53] <mang0> :S
#1188 [07:53] <mang0> but minecraft.net isnt down apparently
#1189 [07:54] <mang0> http://isminecraftdown.net/
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#1191 [07:54] <wartech0> well thats your problem
#1192 [07:54] <wartech0> just play offline
#1193 [07:54] <mang0> .........
#1194 [07:55] <mib_waapvr> ...
#1195 [07:55] <mang0> i am
#1196 [07:55] <mang0> but its not just me with that problem
#1197 [07:55] <mang0> Macousta> same problem for me ..
#1198 [07:55] <wartech0> yea
#1199 [07:55] <mib_waapvr> +1
#1200 [07:55] <wartech0> its everyone with minecraft who has that problem
#1201 [07:55] <Macousta> +1 ^^
#1202 [07:55] <wartech0> derp
#1203 [07:55] <mib_waapvr> I run ot on a mac and you?
#1204 [07:55] <ronjn> it works
#1205 [07:55] <mang0> oh so its just like, temporerily?
#1206 [07:55] <mang0> idk
#1207 [07:55] <ronjn> took about a minute to log in
#1208 [07:55] <ronjn> but works now
#1209 [07:55] <wartech0> yes the servers are down
#1210 [07:56] <wartech0> I just checked ronjn said they were down for me
#1211 [07:56] <mib_waapvr> k
#1212 [07:56] <ronjn> i just logged in 20 seconds ago
#1213 [07:56] <mang0> :O
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#1215 [07:56] <wartech0> can't connect to minecraft.net
#1216 [07:57] <wartech0> exactly what it says on mine
#1217 [07:57] <mang0> okay
#1218 [07:57] <mang0> so its everyone
#1219 [07:57] <mang0> i thought it was me
#1220 [07:57] <wartech0> the servers are down most likely bug fixes or something went horribly wrong
#1221 [07:57] <mib_waapvr> damn ><
#1222 [07:57] <mang0> kk
#1223 [07:57] <wartech0> if its bug fixes then no I am glad the servers are down
#1224 [07:58] <Macousta> ^^
#1225 [07:58] <wartech0> if they are just down then meh
#1226 [07:58] <wartech0> I haven't been able to play online for 3 days now
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#1228 [07:59] <mang0> :O
#1229 [07:59] <mang0> i could go on yesturday
#1230 [07:59] <mang0> this is so strange but o well
#1231 [08:01] <gunther> hi, i can online connect via browser, when i try to login via minecraft.exe, it says "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1232 [08:01] <gunther> what should i do?
#1233 [08:01] <wartech0> minecraft.net is down
#1234 [08:01] <wartech0> you should wait till its back up
#1235 [08:02] <wartech0> or play offline
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#1237 [08:02] <mang0> well that site fails: http://isminecraftdown.net/
#1238 [08:02] <mang0> lol
#1239 [08:02] <mang0> it lied
#1240 [08:02] <mang0> ;__;
#1241 [08:02] <ferdinand> Yeah so it isn't just me then?
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#1243 [08:02] <ferdinand> :p
#1244 [08:02] <wartech0> no
#1245 [08:02] <mang0> nope me too
#1246 [08:02] <ferdinand> dang alright
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#1248 [08:04] <gunther> if i like to play offline on a server of a friend, it says "Connection lost. Failed to login: User not premium" (it works in the browser)
#1249 [08:04] <mang0> same
#1250 [08:04] <mang0> ohrly
#1251 [08:05] <wartech0> I would guess that maybe the servers are down
#1252 [08:05] <wartech0> and since your playing offline how are you going to play online on a server
#1253 [08:06] <adamkex> some server is down atm it seems, can't log in either..
#1254 [08:07] <adamkex> the server software verifies your username to see if you paid for it or not
#1255 [08:07] <adamkex> minecraft.net seems to be offline according to my client
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#1257 [08:08] <adamkex> gunther: you will either have to wait or disable the online check in the server.properties file
#1258 [08:08] <mib_waapvr> ok it seem to work again
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#1260 [08:08] <mib_waapvr> I can connect 10sec ago
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#1262 [08:08] <gunther> thanks adamkex
#1263 [08:08] <gieRz> hi there, i can't connect to minecraft.net is it just me? theres nothin in notchs blog
#1264 [08:08] <adamkex> gieRz: we are all in pain
#1265 [08:09] <gieRz> holy shiiiiat
#1266 [08:09] <gunther> I'll try mib_waapvr :)
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#1268 [08:10] <Kane_> who do we have to bribe to be able to connect to mineraft.net?
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#1270 [08:11] <adamkex> haha, i altered to spawning point and i spawned on a tree, epic
#1271 [08:11] <adamkex> the*
#1272 [08:11] <wartech0> You are all going to have to be patient minecrackheads
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#1275 [08:12] <gieRz> wartech0 i had a dream last night of a giant stairway all the way up to my treehouse i need to build it NOW!
#1276 [08:12] <gieRz> dont call me crackhead!
#1277 [08:12] <Sanja> i have a problem can you help me?
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#1279 [08:13] <wartech0> calm down gieRz *fills cup with redstone dust*
#1280 [08:13] <gunther> ok, i'm new, so is this a problem of 1 hour or three days? or does nobody have an idea?
#1281 [08:13] <wartech0> this will get you through the next hour gieRz
#1282 [08:13] <skyflare> hey anybody know nhow long this wil take?
#1283 [08:13] <skyflare> or how long it took the last time?
#1284 [08:13] <gieRz> wartech0 aah thats good :) ty
#1285 [08:13] <gieRz> nope notch didnt anounce anything
#1286 [08:13] <Sanja> i cant connect to minecraft but the servers dont seem to be down
#1287 [08:13] <wartech0> skyflare it could be problems it could be bugfixes
#1288 [08:14] <skyflare> hmm k
#1289 [08:14] <skyflare> only bought it yesterday
#1290 [08:14] <Flo_White> which problem?
#1291 [08:14] <skyflare> so was wondering what the average downtime it
#1292 [08:14] <wartech0> I don't know you would have to know a server admin
#1293 [08:14] <mang0> skyflare: same here, i got a gift code
#1294 [08:14] <gieRz> Sanja yeah thats because minecrafts multiplayerservers work in a peer to peer way, the only problem is the login server which is connecting those peers..
#1295 [08:14] <wartech0> yes it has to authenticate the user
#1296 [08:14] <gieRz> skyflare its like once a week few hours
#1297 [08:14] <Sanja> so the problem is global?
#1298 [08:14] <gunther> got a gift code, tooo
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#1300 [08:15] <gieRz> Sanja yep
#1301 [08:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes sanja
#1302 [08:15] <Flo_White> which problem?
#1303 [08:15] <wartech0> plus check to see if updates are needed
#1304 [08:15] <Sanja> ok just wondered cause minecraft.net is still working
#1305 [08:15] <GreyVulpine> Looks like the authentication server is down again
#1306 [08:15] <gieRz> Sanja thats why there are all those junkies in the channel :)
#1307 [08:15] <mang0> gawd u can play in browser
#1308 [08:15] <gieRz> mang0 thats just not the same..
#1309 [08:15] <mang0> i know
#1310 [08:15] <GreyVulpine> In every way, it's still the same
#1311 [08:15] <mang0> but better then nothing
#1312 [08:16] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: i spawned on a tree!
#1313 [08:16] <gieRz> haha my pc right here is the server for some friends of me ill just drag the map to my singleplayerclient
#1314 [08:16] <mang0> no, its to small
#1315 [08:16] <gieRz> SCORE
#1316 [08:16] <mang0> adamkex
#1317 [08:16] <mang0> i spawned
#1318 [08:16] <mang0> in a creeper once
#1319 [08:16] <mang0> LMAO
#1320 [08:16] <adamkex> mang0: i altered my spawning location
#1321 [08:17] <adamkex> now i know why the game by default always spawns me at a beach, no trees there
#1322 [08:17] <wartech0> grow you damn tree
#1323 [08:17] <mang0> lol
#1324 [08:17] <mang0> adamkex, how do you change it
#1325 [08:17] <adamkex> mang0: i used MCEdit
#1326 [08:17] <skyflare> browser also isnt working for me
#1327 [08:18] <mang0> oh right
#1328 [08:18] <Sami345> does anybody else get can't connect to minecraft.net
#1329 [08:18] <gieRz> Sami345 no1 can
#1330 [08:18] <adamkex> mang0: it's an easy tool to use, it is crossplatform so you can use it regardless if you are on mac, windows, or linux
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#1332 [08:19] <mang0> coolio
#1333 [08:19] <Sami345> gieRz, ?
#1334 [08:19] <adamkex> if you are on linux then make sure python and all its libraries are compiled for 2.6 and not 2.7 or 3.1
#1335 [08:19] <gieRz> Sami345 noone can connect because the login server is down
#1336 [08:19] <Sami345> ah
#1337 [08:19] <adamkex> change topic?
#1338 [08:20] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1339 [08:20] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1340 [08:20] <Sami345> it works fine on my browser
#1341 [08:20] <Sami345> !isdown google.com
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#1343 [08:20] <GreyBot> Sami345: It's just you. http://google.com is up.
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#1345 [08:21] <Sami345> !isdown sami345.tk
#1346 [08:21] <GreyBot> Sami345: It's just you. http://sami345.tk is up.
#1347 [08:21] <Sami345> O.o
#1348 [08:21] <LittleKrieger> the past year i always hope notch would add a block that works like a transistor for redstone.. today i figured out that i just needed a simple AND gate...
#1349 [08:21] <Sami345> I am the only one who can see http://minecraft.net?
#1350 [08:21] <gieRz> Sami345 no
#1351 [08:21] <LittleKrieger> i can open it , too
#1352 [08:21] <adamkex> Sami345: the authentication server is down
#1353 [08:21] <LittleKrieger> but i cant connect also..
#1354 [08:22] <gieRz> wtf go to facebook to minecrafts site and click through the 1500 great pictures
#1355 [08:22] <Sami345> but you asked the bot to check the web page?
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#1357 [08:22] <gieRz> when youre finished the server will be up
#1358 [08:22] <Sami345> so why does it check the auth serveR?
#1359 [08:22] <bronwen> for authing
#1360 [08:22] <Niktomix> hello, my friend can login fine while i can't login at all via the launcher
#1361 [08:23] <Niktomix> it keeps saying can't connect to minecraft.net
#1362 [08:23] <Sami345> Niktomix, we are having the same problem
#1363 [08:23] <LittleKrieger> same problem here
#1364 [08:23] <adamkex> Niktomix: it is down for everybody
#1365 [08:23] <Niktomix> no it's not
#1366 [08:23] * w can connect fine
#1366 [08:23] <bronwen> if you are like me and you didn't close your minecraft window you can reconnect
#1367 [08:23] <bronwen> to a server
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#1369 [08:23] <Niktomix> i just asked my friend to reboot his client and he logged back in fine
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#1371 [08:23] <NicholAs> Need help :X
#1372 [08:24] <NicholAs> I bought minecraft last night via paypal, everything worked perfectly fine.. I could even set up my own server etc
#1373 [08:24] <Niktomix> i also deleted the whole folder and it keeps freezing on logging in now -.-
#1374 [08:24] <Niktomix> me too Nicho
#1375 [08:24] <NicholAs> but now I can't log in via the exe because apparantly I'm not a "premium user"
#1376 [08:24] <NicholAs> :/
#1377 [08:24] <NicholAs> weird
#1378 [08:24] <Niktomix> i got that while playing offline lol
#1379 [08:24] <NicholAs> could be a bug
#1380 [08:24] <Sami345> Niktomix, you don't need premium accoutn or downloading the eze
#1381 [08:24] <NicholAs> I'll give it today and if nothing changes I want a refund
#1382 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> Looks like the authentication server's down right now
#1383 [08:24] <Sami345> *exe
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#1385 [08:25] <NicholAs> @GreyVulpine my friend(s) are playing it atm and they're getting no such errors
#1386 [08:25] <adamkex> NicholAs: it is down for everybody, or at least almost everybody
#1387 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> Have them log out, then log back in
#1388 [08:25] <NicholAs> ah
#1389 [08:25] <Sami345> maybe some link is down
#1390 [08:25] <Samuelx> anyone here can help me with nick name change ?
#1391 [08:25] <Sami345> like the one side of the internet can't connect there, until routers reroute
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#1394 [08:26] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1395 [08:26] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1396 [08:26] <LittleKrieger> hey i could connect
#1397 [08:26] <Niktomix> pfff, still freezing on logging in ...
#1398 [08:26] <wartech0> don't listen to it
#1399 [08:26] <Sixr2> Connect serv. down?
#1400 [08:26] <LittleKrieger> i just clicked "login" and waited.. then it worked
#1401 [08:27] <LittleKrieger> it seemed like he was freezed
#1402 [08:27] <LittleKrieger> but i waited long enough
#1403 [08:27] <LittleKrieger> ok if you dont belivie me
#1404 [08:27] * w spams http://minecraftstatus.co.uk
#1404 [08:27] <LittleKrieger> bye
#1405 [08:27] <LittleKrieger> i play minecraft now
#1406 [08:27] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1407 [08:27] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1408 [08:28] <NicholAs> sighhhh
#1409 [08:29] <w> !isdown flibbertygibbetmadeupdomainwoofcowbark.ly
#1410 [08:29] <GreyBot> w: It's not just you! http://flibbertygibbetmadeupdomainwoofcowbark.ly looks down from here.
#1411 [08:30] <Con> I'm totally going to use that domain
#1412 [08:30] <w> Samuelx: on IRC, /nick Swordfish
#1413 [08:31] <Con> !isdown conman.webb-jack.com
#1414 [08:31] <GreyBot> Con: It's just you. http://conman.webb-jack.com is up.
#1415 [08:31] <w> !isdown minecraftstatus.co.uk
#1416 [08:31] <GreyBot> w: It's just you. http://minecraftstatus.co.uk is up.
#1417 [08:31] * w is not spamming, honest
#1417 [08:31] <Con> My site is up?
#1418 [08:31] <w> yep. This is an index.
#1419 [08:32] <wartech0> lol everytime I watch that minecraft commercial thing the kid who stole the diamond looks like a crack fiend
#1420 [08:32] <w> well, Minecraft is addictive...
#1421 [08:32] <Niktomix> that's damn retarded, i'm able to log on the website but freeze on the damn launcher :@
#1422 [08:33] <wartech0> very addictive
#1423 [08:33] <adamkex> nobody can log into the server
#1424 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, the SSL authentication server's acting up again
#1425 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> Just try logging into the website client, it doesn't use the same auth server
#1426 [08:34] <wartech0> But GreyVulpine I need my diamonds!!!
#1427 [08:34] * wartech0 relapses
#1427 [08:34] <w> what's the auth server's uri?
#1428 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> Um, usually uses login.minecraft.net
#1429 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> But it could be the DB feeding the auth server got overloaded
#1430 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> ... again.
#1431 [08:35] <adamkex> well, at least i have super smash bro's
#1432 [08:35] <w> well, that's 503ing
#1433 [08:35] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, im using the 1.2 launcher and it will let me login just fine
#1434 [08:35] <mang0> fucking 503s
#1435 [08:35] <mang0> GRAWR
#1436 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> Because it doesn't use the same SSL auth
#1437 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> Same as the website
#1438 [08:36] <TheNytangel> ah
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#1440 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> Mollstam has been working on the SSL auth server since even before GDC.
#1441 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> So yeah.
#1442 [08:36] <mang0> guys, where can i view my skin onminecraft.net
#1443 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> You can't mang0
#1444 [08:36] <mang0> *on minecraft.net
#1445 [08:36] <mang0> oh
#1446 [08:36] <mang0> dammit
#1447 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> Only view it in-game
#1448 [08:36] <w> ew, can we have a nicer colour scheme for the rules? I'm having to highlight it to read
#1449 [08:37] <mang0> where can i? HOW can --------oh okay
#1450 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> There's... nothing special about the rules
#1451 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> We don't have color formatting for a reason.
#1452 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> Never know what color scheme a user's client uses.
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#1455 [08:38] <w> yeah, but dark grey-on-black is painful
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#1457 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1458 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> For the topic?
#1459 [08:38] <w> for http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html
#1460 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> Oooo
#1461 [08:38] * GreyVulpine looks
#1461 [08:39] <wartech0> it doesn't look to bad on my screen
#1462 [08:39] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1462 [08:39] <w> also, can we have a space for help ||Channel Rules: ?
#1463 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1464 [08:39] <SinZ> diffrence?
#1465 [08:40] <SinZ> ah, auth server
#1466 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> Nah, fixed a space between || and channel rules
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#1468 [08:40] <SinZ> ah i see
#1469 [08:41] <skyflare> ......... just want to play minecraft was on a nice server before it crashed-.-
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#1471 [08:41] <mang0> same
#1472 [08:41] <gunther> can skeletons shoot glas?
#1473 [08:42] <wartech0> no
#1474 [08:42] <gunther> ok, thanks
#1475 [08:42] <wartech0> skeletons nor arrows can not break glass
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#1480 [08:45] <Niktomix> only notch can reboot auth server -.- ?
#1481 [08:45] <saft> How can i set the difficulty on my minecraftserver?
#1482 [08:47] <TheNytangel> monsters are either on or off
#1483 [08:47] <saft> ah k ,thx
#1484 [08:47] <TheNytangel> it would be "spawn-monsters true/false"
#1485 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> Niktomix - The Mojang team will work on it.
#1486 [08:47] <w> Niktomix: you want a random passerby to do it?
#1487 [08:47] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, i just helped someone :D
#1488 [08:48] <Niktomix> i just wanna play on my server, another guy just logged in -.-
#1489 [08:48] <TheNytangel> whats your IP
#1490 [08:48] <TheNytangel> i was going to play on someones server but realized i dont have it
#1491 [08:48] <GreyVulpine> Niktomix - Use the website client to log in
#1492 [08:49] <Niktomix> Grey, it keeps freezing on logging in
#1493 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> Not the downloaded client
#1494 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> The in-browser client
#1495 [08:49] <Niktomix> :o, right
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#1497 [08:49] * w notes that the original launcher appears to be working fine
#1497 [08:49] <Buckube> Hi everyone
#1498 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1499 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> Right w, both the in-browser client, and the old client doesn't use the new SSL authentication
#1500 [08:50] <gunther> so, where can i get an old client?
#1501 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> It's against the ToS for other uses to share the software
#1502 [08:51] <Niktomix> lol black screen in the browser after mojang image ...
#1503 [08:52] <gunther> oh, ok, thats right, sry
#1504 [08:52] <Buckube> Minecraft server is offline?
#1505 [08:52] <mang0> RAWR HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET BACK ONLINE GRRR
#1506 [08:52] <Buckube> ok, i think i got the answer ^ ^
#1507 [08:53] <w> So, if I ping http://minecraft.net for a 503, it'll return whether old client/web is down; if I ping https://login.minecraft.net it'll tell me whether the new launcher is down?
#1508 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> I don't think pinging login.minecraft.net will tell you anything
#1509 [08:54] <w> That's why I was checking. It'd be nice to ping the new setup, so I'm trying to work out how to
#1510 [08:54] <ArmEagle> argh.. admins just finished updating our server (and editing the map).. and now .net is down..
#1511 [08:54] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#1512 [08:54] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#1514 [08:55] <Mash> Erm
#1515 [08:55] <Mash> The site is working fine for me
#1516 [08:55] <TheNytangel> yeah, me too
#1517 [08:55] <Mash> It's the login service that's borked.
#1518 [08:55] <Roll> again
#1519 [08:55] <Roll> ><
#1520 [08:55] <TheNytangel> just login to the website and play in the browser
#1521 [08:55] <Roll> ps if you dont use the launcher
#1522 [08:55] <Roll> and use the old client
#1523 [08:55] <Roll> the login works fine
#1524 [08:55] <ArmEagle> sigh
#1525 [08:56] <Roll> i have no idea why he even made that launcher its been nothing but bad news IMO
#1526 [08:56] <wartech0> bored...
#1527 [08:56] <ArmEagle> of course i threw the old one away..
#1528 [08:56] <Roll> is uploading it somewhere allowed?
#1529 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> Roll - Not here
#1530 [08:56] <ArmEagle> of course not
#1531 [08:56] <Mash> 1. I'm not playing it in a browser, lol. 2. Old is old, I like new.
#1532 [08:56] <ArmEagle> you're sharing a copyrighted work. That's hardly allowed anywhere
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#1534 [08:56] <Roll> mash, the "old" one
#1535 [08:56] <Roll> has everything the launcher has
#1536 [08:56] <raisin> Eum
#1537 [08:56] <raisin> Question
#1538 [08:56] <Roll> except for the log in screen that doesnt work
#1539 [08:57] <raisin> is the server down ?
#1540 [08:57] <Mash> That means all the online-mode=true servers aren't going to work then either.
#1541 [08:57] <raisin> is the server down ?
#1542 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> raisin - Check /topic
#1543 [08:57] <raisin> cause my launcher says cant connect to minecraft.net
#1544 [08:58] <Roll> "Client Auth Server is DOWN" from topic
#1545 [08:58] <Roll> :p
#1546 [08:58] <raisin> so its down ? :D
#1547 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> let's see.. where's that function...
#1548 [08:58] <Roll> no its up the topic is just kidding
#1549 [08:58] <Roll> (i'm kidding ofcourse its down) xD
#1550 [08:58] * w wonders what the URL is that MInecraft uses to connect (that appears halfheartedly when you connect to SMP during a 503)
#1550 [08:58] <raisin> Cause i just deleted my bin file cuz i had some problems with my texture pack
#1551 [08:59] <raisin> and now i cant start it
#1552 [08:59] <ArmEagle> ah well, this is what I have IE for.. to run Java
#1553 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Try the in-browser client
#1554 [08:59] <raisin> k
#1555 [09:00] <raisin> brb
#1556 [09:00] <Roll> btw for setting up my own server (with bukkit) if i have questions do i ask them here?
#1557 [09:00] <Roll> or is that seperate
#1558 [09:00] <Roll> :p
#1559 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit
#1560 [09:01] <Roll> not that i have any questions atm
#1561 [09:01] <Roll> ok thanks
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#1564 [09:04] <raisin> no i have the same problem as with my texture pack
#1565 [09:04] <raisin> Minecraft begins for 1 sec
#1566 [09:04] <raisin> and then freezes
#1567 [09:05] <mimic18> hi, the server is down ?
#1568 [09:05] <mang0> yes
#1569 [09:05] <mang0> #bukkit
#1570 [09:05] <mimic18> erf ok thy ;)
#1571 [09:06] <raisin> Greyvulpine do you knwo what i should do ?
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#1573 [09:07] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1574 [09:08] <raisin> My minecraft now freezes after 3 secs
#1575 [09:08] <raisin> browser and downlaod
#1576 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#1577 [09:08] <mang0> :S
#1578 [09:08] <mimic18> ah, up
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#1580 [09:08] <skyflare> is it up?
#1581 [09:08] <skyflare> yeah up aghain
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#1583 [09:08] <mimic18> i'm connected
#1584 [09:09] <skyflare> same
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#1586 [09:09] <Smorfy> Hi
#1587 [09:09] <TheMisterCat> sup
#1588 [09:09] <sprog> ello
#1589 [09:09] <raisin> Well is tart it
#1590 [09:09] <raisin> start*
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#1592 [09:09] <TheMisterCat> i was going to ask about the auth serv but i see by the topic that its down :(
#1593 [09:09] <raisin> and press launch, it says not connected to minecraft
#1594 [09:09] <skyflare> when i want to join server it says after ahwile it times out
#1595 [09:09] <raisin> i press play offline
#1596 [09:09] <sprog> atm i keep failing to log in on miecraft.net... anyone has an idea how tof ix this?
#1597 [09:09] <Smorfy> That at this moment there is no access to minecraft net. is this right?
#1598 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes Smorfy
#1599 [09:10] <TheMisterCat> all we can do is wait
#1600 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#1601 [09:10] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#1602 [09:10] <raisin> and the when i see my hand and all the blocks
#1603 [09:10] <sprog> but i play on a server
#1604 [09:10] <sprog> that's the prob
#1605 [09:10] <Smorfy> :(
#1606 [09:10] <raisin> after 3 secs it freezes
#1607 [09:10] <sprog> can't play on server when not logged to minecraft.net
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#1609 [09:11] <raisin> Grey ?
#1610 [09:11] <sprog> the weird thing is... i have no prob logging in on brothers pc... but when i try 3 secs later ym pc it doesnt work again
#1611 [09:12] <gunther> wohooo, work again for me
#1612 [09:12] <sprog> lucky you :(
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#1615 [09:12] <sprog> mine stil showin 'logging in' message so it'll prob fail again
#1616 [09:13] <raisin> Greyvulpine please help
#1617 [09:13] <Roll> it gets stuck on that quite a bit sprog
#1618 [09:13] <sprog> wooohooooo
#1619 [09:13] <sprog> i got in!!!!!!
#1620 [09:13] <sprog> happy :')
#1621 [09:13] <sprog> ty for the help :)
#1622 [09:13] <Xs1der> my laptop just crashed while playing minecraft, now i can't log in anymore, can someone help me?
#1623 [09:13] <sprog> i'll remembr nexst time i can't log in
#1624 [09:14] <sprog> oh yeah and
#1625 [09:14] <raisin> So everthing goes normal i press play offline it goes to the menu, i press singleplayer and i select my town, then when i go in it freezes after 3 secs, please help
#1626 [09:14] <sprog> when i tried to play in browser i got blue screen of death
#1627 [09:14] <sprog> but doesn't matter now :)
#1628 [09:14] <sprog> ty
#1629 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> raisin - Try a new world?
#1630 [09:14] <Xs1der> Solved, Thanks!
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#1633 [09:15] <mik008> hello
#1634 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1635 [09:16] <mik008> I have problem
#1636 [09:16] <mik008> ;/
#1637 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1638 [09:16] <mik008> so
#1639 [09:17] <mik008> I installed mod
#1640 [09:17] <raisin> k
#1641 [09:17] <mik008> and now minecraft don't want to start
#1642 [09:17] <mik008> theres only lanucher
#1643 [09:17] <mik008> and when im clicking play
#1644 [09:17] <mik008> its loading for 0.5 sec
#1645 [09:17] <mik008> and black screen
#1646 [09:17] <mik008> :<
#1647 [09:18] <mik008> can somebody tell me whats wrong?
#1648 [09:18] <raisin> Ok vulpine thaths working now ?
#1649 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, probably a corrupt world then raisin
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#1651 [09:18] <raisin> Nooo
#1652 [09:18] <raisin> no
#1653 [09:18] <raisin> umm
#1654 [09:18] <bronwen> what happens if you remove the mod mik008
#1655 [09:18] <raisin> thaths my best world
#1656 [09:19] <mik008> didn't tried
#1657 [09:19] <raisin> can i get it back ?
#1658 [09:19] <mik008> should I ? bronwen
#1659 [09:19] <bronwen> yes try it and see first
#1660 [09:19] <bronwen> then you know its definitely something up with that mod
#1661 [09:19] <raisin> GreyVulpine can i get i back ? :(
#1662 [09:20] <Smorfy> THX, the browser version is running
#1663 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> Sorry raisin, I don't know.
#1664 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> You could try loading it up in MCedit
#1665 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> see if it'll recover it
#1666 [09:21] <raisin> k
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#1668 [09:21] <raisin> ooh
#1669 [09:21] <raisin> i might know what the problem is
#1670 [09:21] <raisin> could it be thath if i have a modded item in there, and the mod is gone since i removed the Bin file
#1671 [09:22] <raisin> thath it stopped working ?
#1672 [09:22] <Roll> lol
#1673 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's possible
#1674 [09:22] <mik008> its working now bronwen
#1675 [09:22] <JanKastrul> hello, Can anyone here help me with a server connection problem?
#1676 [09:22] <mik008> thanks
#1677 [09:22] <raisin> hmm
#1678 [09:22] <Roll> could use invedit
#1679 [09:22] <raisin> gonne install the mod again
#1680 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> JanKastrul - What problem?
#1681 [09:22] <Roll> to remove the item
#1682 [09:22] <raisin> see what i does
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#1684 [09:23] <JanKastrul> I made a server, its 90.191.159.232 , me and my friend who is behind se same router as i am can connect to it, but another friend thats not behind the same router cannot
#1685 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> JanKastrul - Did you port forward?
#1686 [09:23] <JanKastrul> yeah I did 90.191.159.232:118
#1687 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Yikes, why port 118?
#1688 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> !check 90.191.159.232:118
#1689 [09:24] <Roll> oh wow
#1690 [09:24] <Roll> thats a brilliant bot command
#1691 [09:24] <Jaska> JanKastrul, you can't connect to your wan ip from behind router
#1692 [09:24] <JanKastrul> because thats the only port that I should be able to open
#1693 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure JanKastrul? You can't open a new port on your router?
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#1695 [09:25] <Roll> guessing you're in college?
#1696 [09:25] <JanKastrul> nope
#1697 [09:25] <blizwire> does anyone know when minecraft.net auth server will be up again?
#1698 [09:25] <mik008> huh
#1699 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> blizwire - We have no idea
#1700 [09:25] <oldtopman> isup.me
#1701 [09:25] <JanKastrul> it doesnt matter which port I try to open it always shows that its closed
#1702 [09:25] <mik008> hey guys can you connect to minecraft
#1703 [09:26] <blizwire> GreyVulpine do you know how long it has been down?
#1704 [09:26] <JanKastrul> but how come one of my friends can connect
#1705 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> blizwire - Maybe a few hours
#1706 [09:26] <mik008> mine says it can't be connected
#1707 [09:26] <adamkex> i connected
#1708 [09:26] <blizwire> GreyVulpine ok thank you. too bad its down though =(
#1709 [09:26] <oldtopman> Isup.me says it works!
#1710 [09:26] <mik008> ugh!
#1711 [09:27] <blizwire> GreyVulpine some people say it works with an older version of the launcher, do you know anything about that?
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#1714 [09:27] <oldtopman> I just upgraded my launcher :(
#1715 [09:27] <raisin> GeryVulpine i downloaded the mod again
#1716 [09:28] <raisin> and im stuck at this
#1717 [09:28] <raisin> ill paste it at pastbin
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#1719 [09:28] <raisin> ooh nvm
#1720 [09:28] <raisin> cant paste photos there
#1721 [09:29] <raisin> i says Minecraft updating: Done loading
#1722 [09:29] <raisin> but the greenbar isnt full yet and is not progressing
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#1724 [09:30] <raisin> Greyvulpine?
#1725 [09:30] <oldtopman> rasin: You haven't updates your client yout have you?
#1726 [09:31] <Roll> how do i stop a spawner from spawning?
#1727 [09:31] <Roll> ust put torches?
#1728 [09:31] <Roll> just*
#1729 [09:31] <oldtopman> Roll: Torches on all four sides.
#1730 [09:31] <Roll> ty
#1731 [09:31] <raisin> i did update everything
#1732 [09:31] <Roll> skeleton spawner :D
#1733 [09:31] <raisin> but it just freezes there
#1734 [09:31] <Roll> thats gonna be useful for bonemea: D
#1735 [09:31] <raisin> and doesnt do anything
#1736 [09:31] <Roll> bonemeal :D*
#1737 [09:32] <raisin> fuck please help
#1738 [09:32] <raisin> it jsut stays like thath
#1739 [09:32] <raisin> all the time
#1740 [09:32] <AppLeNaToR> Heya. is there a way to get rid of th performance problems, When youare close to "blinking" redlight circuits? When iam far away (but i still can see the blinking lights) the performance is just fine.
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#1742 [09:33] <thonixx> help
#1743 [09:33] <thonixx> i cant write on #minecraft
#1744 [09:34] <Roll> Topic for #minecraft is “Register your nickname to talk. /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER |
#1745 [09:34] <Roll> seriously does nobody read topics
#1746 [09:34] <Roll> :(
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#1748 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Of course not
#1749 [09:35] <adamkex> now it doesn't connect anymore..
#1750 [09:35] <raisin> GreyVulpine, its still the same
#1751 [09:36] <raisin> it stays at Minecraft updated done loading and it freezes
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#1753 [09:38] <oldtopman> The browser version works.
#1754 [09:38] <raisin> And still no answer
#1755 [09:38] <raisin> its my way of questioning things rude or something ?
#1756 [09:39] <oldtopman> raisin: no.
#1757 [09:39] <oldtopman> We are all having problems getting our games to login.
#1758 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, no, it's just sometimes we're a bit busy
#1759 [09:39] <oldtopman> In the new client, It says connot connect
#1760 [09:39] <oldtopman> Appearently in yours it handss on a green bar screen.
#1761 [09:39] <oldtopman> I am telling people to go online.
#1762 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> raisin - Did you reinstall the mod?
#1763 [09:40] <mannflooring> i have that issue too, everything started lagging then java froze, this was like 10 minutes ago, and still can't get in, i'm glad to know something is down though, thank-you!
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#1766 [09:42] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> Hi ppl
#1767 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1768 [09:42] <oldtopman> 'allo
#1769 [09:42] <gixxy> hey everyone
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#1771 [09:42] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> Can anybody help me? I Bought minecraft but dont find a download area :D
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#1773 [09:42] <oldtopman> minecraft.net/download
#1774 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> AKU|Jayrock|AFK - http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1775 [09:42] <Sami345> !isdown minecraft.net
#1776 [09:42] <GreyBot> Sami345: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1777 [09:43] <wartech0> I am bored as hell
#1778 [09:43] <SkiingPenguins> omg me too
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#1780 [09:43] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> yes. Iam @ this site
#1781 [09:43] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> the only thing i see there is an exe file
#1782 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> The download links are there
#1783 [09:43] <wartech0> Think I might do some mixing
#1784 [09:43] <oldtopman> Right now, some part of the server is down and the downloaded versions don't work. The "in browser" one does.
#1785 [09:44] <wartech0> anyone want to listen to me Dj?
#1786 [09:44] <oldtopman> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#1788 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> wartech0 - Sure, link/ip?
#1789 [09:44] <oldtopman> Which OS are you on?
#1790 [09:44] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> win 7
#1791 [09:44] <wartech0> one second let me start up the icecast servers GreyVulpine
#1792 [09:44] <oldtopman> So use the .exe one.
#1793 [09:45] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> i downloaded the exe already. Then i start it
#1794 [09:45] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> now ie will login "game is not downloaded" in red text
#1795 [09:45] <oldtopman> Right.
#1796 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> Right, okay, right now the authentication server for the downloaded client is having problems
#1797 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> Only thing you can do is wait for it to be fixed. In the meantime, use the inbrowser client
#1798 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/game/
#1799 [09:46] <oldtopman> The client (what you downloaded) downloads the game after the first successful authentication.
#1800 [09:46] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> mhm okay. Now i get it. And now it cant login cause of lags or some other probs right?
#1801 [09:46] <oldtopman> As GreyVulpine said, only the inbrowser version works atm
#1802 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> Right AKU|Jayrock|AFK. The SSL authentication server is down at the moment
#1803 [09:46] <oldtopman> right.
#1804 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> Nobody using the new client can log in
#1805 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> However, the in-browser client still works
#1806 [09:46] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> ^^
#1807 [09:46] <wartech0> http://warteh0.listen2myradio.com here it is greyvulpine give me a bit to find a song
#1808 [09:47] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> okay wait i try this other one u said
#1809 [09:47] <oldtopman> Playing the inbrowser version is going to put files on your computer, as it is essentially the client being run from Mojang's servers
#1810 [09:47] <Mash> Are they running ALL the logins though one machine or are they loadbalancing it?
#1811 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> They're loadbalancing it
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#1813 [09:47] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> okay i get some packages
#1814 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> It's just the new client uses the SSL auth.. which has been causing them problems since day 1
#1815 [09:48] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> mhm
#1816 [09:48] <wartech0> You getting anything out of that GreyVulpine?
#1817 [09:48] <oldtopman> AKU|Jayrock|AFK: now you should be at a screen with a game menu!
#1818 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Sec..
#1819 [09:49] <wartech0> okay
#1820 [09:49] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> yes i get it. But i thought it will be a execut programm like paint or something :D
#1821 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> AKU|Jayrock|AFK - Once the authentication server is back up, you'll be able to use the .exe
#1822 [09:50] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> yes an then i can play it like other games and not in browser or?
#1823 [09:50] <Mash> How long are the servers usually down like this?
#1824 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Mash - It can be a day, it can last a few days..
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#1826 [09:50] <oldtopman> Not too long, never more than half a day.
#1827 [09:50] <raisin> GreyVulpine i did install my mod again
#1828 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> AKU|Jayrock|AFK - You'll then have a choice. You can play on any system through an .exe.. or you can play on any system which has a browser
#1829 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Once you buy minecraft, you can play minecraft on any system.
#1830 [09:50] <raisin> But i keeps doing thaht, shoudl i reinstall it ?
#1831 [09:51] <Mash> I wonder if some clown at the datacenter just hit the wrong off switch on the way out for the weekend lol
#1832 [09:51] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> okay.
#1833 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> raisin - I'm tempted to blame the mod for your troubles then
#1834 [09:51] <AKU|Jayrock|AFK> Then i test it in Browser till the servers will be up. ^^
#1835 [09:51] <raisin> its the fanblocks mod
#1836 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Mash - Last we heard, mollstam (the web guy at mojang) has been working on the backend DB for the authentication stuff
#1837 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> He's been trying to roll out fixes.
#1838 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> wartech0 - I'm not getting anything here.
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#1841 [09:53] <wartech0> nothing?
#1842 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> nothing
#1843 [09:53] <wartech0> try now
#1844 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> Works now
#1845 [09:54] <wartech0> okay
#1846 [09:54] <Mash> Oh.. Do I get a refund because I can't play something I purchased? >,>;;
#1847 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> Mash, if you wish, sure. payment@mojang.com
#1848 [09:55] <wartech0> hope you don't mind techno stuff GreyVulpine
#1849 [09:55] <Mash> .. You were supposed to say no so I could make some pun about lawyerland and owning Mojang. :(
#1850 [09:55] <Morrolan> Mash: No you cant. :)
#1851 [09:55] * Morrolan waits for the pun
#1851 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> Nah, don't mind at all wartech0.
#1852 [09:55] <wartech0> okay
#1853 [09:56] <Mash> Can't make it now, it's spoiled- Plus I'm on the spot, so that just ruins it.
#1854 [09:56] * GreyVulpine was a techno-freak back in college.
#1854 [09:56] <AppLeNaToR> Mash, you purchased something which is not done. You actually can be lucky that you can play it already ;)
#1855 [09:56] <AppLeNaToR> *could play* if it would work
#1856 [09:56] <Morrolan> Oh, maybe another time then. :p
#1857 [09:57] <Morrolan> Applenator: Only problem is that it's not the game which is failing, but the server. ;)
#1858 [09:57] <AppLeNaToR> which server :)
#1859 [09:57] <Morrolan> The authentication server I guess.
#1860 [09:58] <AppLeNaToR> well okay. but even they belong to a product which is not yet finished :)
#1861 [09:58] <oldtopman> The ssl side of the auth server. And brobqable some machine verification code that doesn't run on the in-browser version.
#1862 [09:58] <wartech0> lol I am a techno person all the time lol
#1863 [09:58] <Mash> If you really want to get technical, Minecraft in various forms has been completed and left behind. Completed in the sense it was released and they're no longer continuing to work on it.
#1864 [09:59] <Morrolan> Well you see, I wouldn't mind if they were down once, and then they would have fixed it. Since it is, as you said, a incomplete product.
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#1866 [09:59] <icy_miner> hmm am i going to have issues here : unable to access jarfile craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jarcd .... but then it says this server is runing Craftbukkit version git-Bukkit-0.0.0-493-g8b5496e-b493jnks (MC: 1.3
#1867 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit icy_miner
#1868 [09:59] <icy_miner> ok cheers
#1869 [09:59] <bronwen> Mash - beds are new, for example. It's not like they're not working on it, there's just no seecret friday updates every single week
#1870 [09:59] <Morrolan> However, it's down that often, and Mojang doesn't really seem to care.
#1871 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> Mojang does care.
#1872 [10:00] <Mash> I was referring to things such as alpha and in(f)dev.
#1873 [10:00] <Morrolan> Well, care might have been the wrong word.
#1874 [10:00] <Morrolan> Maybe "act" would have been better,
#1875 [10:00] <Mash> if this was EA I could see bitching, but Mojang is what, like 7 guys? Give them time lol
#1876 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> The Mojang team's at GDC right now
#1877 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> So yeah.
#1878 [10:01] <Morrolan> Mash: Nobody is bitching imo.
#1879 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> Got what, 5 awards?
#1880 [10:01] <Morrolan> Just.... complaining I guess.
#1881 [10:02] <Mash> Bitching = moaning, groaning, disputing eventhough you've lost and above all, complaining. >,>
#1882 [10:02] <Mash> Generally speaking, anyway
#1883 [10:02] <Mash> omg tacos at 7am were a fantastic idea.
#1884 [10:02] <Morrolan> Complaining <> bitching
#1885 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> Guys, easy there. Minecraft is still "up" right now. Nothing's preventing you from playing in-browser.. or in the old client if you have that
#1886 [10:03] <mang0> dammit i used to have the old client
#1887 [10:03] <mang0> grrrrr
#1888 [10:03] <mang0> icba to do browser
#1889 [10:03] <mang0> just gonna go offline
#1890 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> I can understand your frustration, but minecraft has gotten a lot better in the past few months
#1891 [10:03] <wartech0> hope you don't mind harder stuff greyvulpine
#1892 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> Not at all wartech0, it was pretty tame
#1893 [10:04] <wartech0> okay
#1894 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> You guys have to understand that Notch has gotten a lot of flak for authentication being passed via plain-text
#1895 [10:04] <Mash> GreyVulpine, I was just debating and being dumb to pass the time, I'm in no way miffed at Mojang or Morrolan.
#1896 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> Hence, the new client, and with SSL
#1897 [10:05] * GreyVulpine nods
#1897 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> Now, with new things, and with the size of the minecraft community, I can totally understand their growing pains..
#1898 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> And I hope you all do as well
#1899 [10:05] <Mash> Agreed.. As I stated above; it's like 7 dudes vs 15,000 sales a day.
#1900 [10:06] <Mash> Down time is more than expected- In fact, I consider it a miracle they've been keeping up for the most part.
#1901 [10:06] <wartech0> Yea they are doing a amazing job
#1902 [10:06] <wartech0> they are a indie group no publishers to back them or nothing
#1903 [10:06] <Morrolan> You know, what buggs me are these two things: a) The server has crashed several times already, and yet they didn't manage to hire a DB-guru to help them out. and b) They just went to GDC without leaving anyone behind which could take care if something went wrong.
#1904 [10:06] <Mash> Although, on the other hand-- They ARE pulling in almost $300,000 a day. >,>
#1905 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - It's not like they've left the office altogether. Even mollstam's VPNing into the office computers to fix stuff (check his twitter)
#1906 [10:07] <Mash> I was just getting to that Morrolan lol
#1907 [10:07] <Mash> Linkie link please?
#1908 [10:07] <oldtopman> Morrolan: The servers went down on the flight out. And they they fixed them. From the in-flight wifi.
#1909 [10:07] <xales> Mash: Not sure where you got that number from, but I don't think they are making quite as much as you think they are
#1910 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/mollstam
#1911 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> "Just set up a VPN tunnel to get off this nasty open WiFi, now I think I can relax…"
#1912 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> march 1st, "Currently bringing down the server to make a snapshot to spawn more instances. : )"
#1913 [10:08] <Mash> GreyVulpine, upwards of 15,000 sales a day at $23(US) a wack.. That's close to three hundred-thousand.
#1914 [10:08] <Morrolan> oldtopman: And this is not how it should be done. They should have someone available who could take care of that while they're away.
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#1916 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> Mornin' xales
#1917 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> authentication server's down for the downloaded client again
#1918 [10:09] <wartech0> sorry for the just stright up crossfader slam only working on one channel here since I can't use both my speakers GreyVulpine
#1919 [10:09] <xales> morning GV, I think I woke up too early :(
#1920 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Heh, s'alright
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#1922 [10:09] <oldtopman> A VPN tunnel means that the computer connected to the VPN tunnel is the same as being physically connected there. There are no advantages to hiring someone else that just waits for a fail.
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#1925 [10:10] <Mash> Generally people that know how to handle fails also know full well how to optimize a system and create redundant failsafes.
#1926 [10:10] <Thalis5654> Hey here
#1927 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> 'lo Thalis5654
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#1929 [10:10] <Thalis5654> french miner here, I got a pb :$
#1930 [10:10] <mib_z526y6> minecraft.net down?
#1931 [10:10] <Morrolan> oldtopman: Point is: Mollstam is currently in a different timezone, and he would like to do other things (understandable) than fixing the server.
#1932 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> By all means, shoot
#1933 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes mib_z526y6
#1934 [10:10] <Thalis5654> ok, we can't play online for this moment ?
#1935 [10:10] <Morrolan> Yes, Thalis
#1936 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> You can, through the in-browser client
#1937 [10:10] <Thalis5654> saaad *.*
#1938 [10:10] <oldtopman> He's in a similar timezone to me :smug:
#1939 [10:11] <Morrolan> through the browser it should work though.
#1940 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Not through the downloaded client
#1941 [10:11] <Mash> Nope, can't play right now- Time to bug the g/fs for loving.
#1942 [10:11] <Thalis5654> the in-browser client wont work with me :'( ^^
#1943 [10:11] <oldtopman> CAN WE GET A MOD TO CHANGE THE TOPIC! to in browser version works.
#1944 [10:11] <Morrolan> If you have the old client you could try that one.
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#1946 [10:11] <Morrolan> the old launcher*
#1947 [10:12] <Thalis5654> hmm dunno what is the "old launcher" ^^"
#1948 [10:12] <Morrolan> The one without all that fancy stuff (news, choosing wheter you want to update etc.)
#1949 [10:12] <Thalis5654> where.how can I get it ?
#1950 [10:13] <ArmEagle> hah and now I got DCed running the game from the browser..
#1951 [10:13] <wartech0> I have a hard time believing my audio interface has a 1 ms latency
#1952 [10:13] <Thalis5654> (the online browser definitly doesnt work at home ^^)
#1953 [10:13] <ArmEagle> and when i go back to http://www.minecraft.net/game/ I get a 500 Servlet Exception
#1954 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not good ArmEagle
#1955 [10:13] <wartech0> sometimes it reports .5ms latency too
#1956 [10:13] <Morrolan> I don't think it's available for download anymore, Thalis.
#1957 [10:13] <Morrolan> Only way were if you still had it somewhere on your PC:
#1958 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> wartech0 - I do get slight hiccups every so often
#1959 [10:14] <Thalis5654> ok, no pb ^^. Do u know why and for how long the minecraft.net server will be down ? :)
#1960 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Thalis5654 - We have no ETA on that, sorry.
#1961 [10:14] <wartech0> that might be me not uploading fast enough
#1962 [10:14] * GreyVulpine nods
#1962 [10:15] <Thalis5654> ok ty GreyVulpine, I'll be patient :)
#1963 [10:15] <wartech0> My up is capped at .5 mbps
#1964 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> Ooof.. ouch wartech0.
#1965 [10:15] <Mash> My up is capped around 5mbps.
#1966 [10:16] <ArmEagle> ah, that's better
#1967 [10:16] <Mash> Down will get upwards of 30mbps at the right time of day
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#1969 [10:17] <Mash> 28.62mbps according to speedtest.net atm
#1970 [10:17] <Thalis5654> bye all, and thx for your help ^^
#1971 [10:17] <Mash> bye Thalis5654
#1972 [10:17] <wartech0> tune coming in GreyVulpine
#1973 [10:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#1973 [10:18] <Mash> twitter.com/mollstam ?
#1974 [10:19] * GreyVulpine nods
#1974 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> The whole mojang team is on twitter
#1975 [10:19] <Mash> Hasn't been a post in 3 hours, where are you fetching your information good sir?
#1976 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Didn't say there were any recent news, just that since GDC started up, you can see mollstam has worked on the DB stuff
#1977 [10:20] <Mash> I was more or less asking where you see that he's fiddled with the db stuffs?
#1978 [10:21] <Mash> "Wake up in San Francisco. I'm pretty sure Starfleet headquarters should be here somewhere…" is lol though.
#1979 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> "The problem isn't the database per se, but the pool implementation is acting up."
#1980 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> "Minecraft webiste is totally down. These DB connection issues are more and more lookling like a Schrödinbug."
#1981 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> "Will have a look at how the application handles its database connection pool to fix "No Free Connections", which doesn't make sense."
#1982 [10:23] <Mash> Where was that taken from?
#1983 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> his twitter, past entries
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#1985 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> earlier than that, "There's been some trouble with the login server and it's database pool. Server is up right now, but probably not out of the woods just yet
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#1987 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> You can basically see that this isn't a new issue, he's tried rolling out fixes after that, then unrolling them out.
#1988 [10:25] <Mash> Carpet is a bitch like that.
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#1990 [10:25] <ShinShin> Hello, me Again
#1991 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1992 [10:26] <ShinShin> I try everythink and the prob still the same
#1993 [10:26] <ShinShin> reinstall all, use other rams from friends pc and and and
#1994 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Ah, right, you didn't have enough RAM for minecraft to start.
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#1996 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM did you end up putting in?
#1997 [10:27] <raisin> Ok GreyVulpine, it is the mod definitly
#1998 [10:27] * GreyVulpine nods at raisin
#1998 [10:27] <raisin> no doubt about thath, so my best world is gone
#1999 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Sorry raisin.
#2000 [10:27] <raisin> it was over 20 mb of awesomeness
#2001 [10:28] <raisin> not your fault
#2002 [10:28] <ShinShin> i got 3,25 GB
#2003 [10:28] <raisin> as a world ?
#2004 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Nah, ShinShin had a RAM problem
#2005 [10:28] <ShinShin> i dont understand it, yesterday it work 100% fine
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#2007 [10:28] <Bloodsail> hi
#2008 [10:28] <wartech0> This will be my last one GreyVulpine
#2009 [10:28] <Bloodsail> why i am not can play ?
#2010 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing wartech0, thanks.
#2011 [10:29] <wartech0> np
#2012 [10:29] <Bloodsail> i am can"t loged
#2013 [10:29] <wartech0> Thanks for listening
#2014 [10:29] <Xerati> GreyVulpine is breaking everything!
#2015 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#2016 [10:29] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#2017 [10:29] <Bloodsail> very thanks
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#2020 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Been a while since I've gotten to listen to some techno.
#2021 [10:30] <ShinShin> so need to setup new pc ? xD
#2022 [10:30] <Mash> Are the team even aware that it's down "this time" (ie right now)
#2023 [10:30] <Darknote> hello everyone
#2024 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Mash - Probably not
#2025 [10:30] <Darknote> minecraft is down for me, is it for you too?
#2026 [10:30] <LittleKrieger> yes
#2027 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> That message has been stored since they rolled out the new client
#2028 [10:30] <wartech0> Well I DJ and produce so I listen to it alot
#2029 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> New client was down for 2 days when they rolled it out
#2030 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> On uh, Feb 22?
#2031 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> 23rd?
#2032 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Around there.
#2033 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, yeah, the auth server for the downloaded client is down
#2034 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Try the in-browser client
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#2036 [10:31] <LittleKrieger> ____/\______\o/___
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#2038 [10:32] <wartech0> I wonder if the browser client would work for my problem
#2039 [10:32] <Darknote> wonder when the server will be back on D:
#2040 [10:32] <ShinShin> I go creazy... v.v
#2041 [10:33] <raisin> I gonne punch myself in the face now
#2042 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> ShinShin - I'm sorry, Try the .jar
#2043 [10:33] <Darknote> xD
#2044 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> See if you can't launch it with lowered RAM arguments
#2045 [10:33] <ShinShin> already try
#2046 [10:33] <ShinShin> dont helo
#2047 [10:33] <ShinShin> help*
#2048 [10:35] <wartech0> does anyone have a server I can connect to
#2049 [10:35] <wartech0> thats in the US
#2050 [10:36] <Xerati> yes
#2051 [10:36] <wartech0> pm me the Ip/hostname?
#2052 [10:36] <Mash> lol @ minecraftforums.net popping gateway errors.
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#2054 [10:36] <raisin> Are tehre a lot of freebuild servers in Minecraft beta ?
#2055 [10:37] <Deakron> Hey! could someone help me with permissions plugin and essentials stuff please ? :o
#2056 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Deakron - Try #bukkit for that
#2057 [10:37] <Deakron> thanks
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#2061 [10:40] <zippity> can someone help
#2062 [10:40] <vibram> minecraft isn't ffline? because can't manage to connect myself on start :s
#2063 [10:40] <zippity> I can't run Minecraft.exe
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#2067 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#2068 [10:42] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#2069 [10:42] <AppLeNaToR> Heya. What do i have to do to always be OP when i join our server? Iam in the op List but i have to manually "op" me through the server console every time.
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#2071 [10:42] <raisin> GreyVulpine, its not the mod ?!
#2072 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> AppLeNaToR - Add yourself to the ops.txt
#2073 [10:42] <raisin> Its just the server
#2074 [10:42] <Ffx> hmmm
#2075 [10:42] <AppLeNaToR> Grey, iam in there :/
#2076 [10:42] <Ffx> umm anyone else's launcher not connecting to minecraft?
#2077 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> ffx - yes
#2078 [10:42] <raisin> because now i cant even do it without the mod ?!
#2079 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#2080 [10:42] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#2081 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> raisin - Try a reinstall
#2082 [10:43] <raisin> yea i did
#2083 [10:43] <raisin> and it worked
#2084 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> AppLeNaToR - Are you sure you added a name per line in there?
#2085 [10:43] <Ffx> wait...I got it working...use the old client peoples
#2086 [10:43] <raisin> but then i installed the server commands on Singleplayer again
#2087 [10:43] <raisin> and it freezed agai
#2088 [10:43] <Ffx> old client still works
#2089 [10:43] <raisin> I dont have the old client anymore
#2090 [10:43] <AppLeNaToR> Is upper/Lower case important?
#2091 [10:43] <Ffx> mmm
#2092 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> AppLeNaToR - I'm.. not sure.
#2093 [10:44] <AppLeNaToR> and/or does the serve rneeds to be restarted that the op list works?
#2094 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes AppLeNaToR
#2095 [10:44] <Ffx> oh great minecraft forums are overloaded too
#2096 [10:44] <AppLeNaToR> aah okay then that may be the cause :)
#2097 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> It needs to be restarted each time you change ops.txt
#2098 [10:44] <AppLeNaToR> ok cool
#2099 [10:44] <Ffx> ok its workin
#2100 [10:44] <AppLeNaToR> thanks
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#2102 [10:45] <raisin> can anywone send e the old launcher ?
#2103 [10:45] <Ffx> getting alot of 502 errors on minecraft forums..
#2104 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> We don't really like people giving out the old launcher here raisin..
#2105 [10:46] <raisin> ow sorry
#2106 [10:46] <Ffx> huh?
#2107 [10:46] <raisin> its just thath i need to seize every change to get my old world back
#2108 [10:46] <wartech0> man this bug has to be in the retrieving section of code for the client
#2109 [10:47] <Ffx> I believe old client = no good for converted worlds already
#2110 [10:47] <wartech0> like changes in the server
#2111 [10:47] <raisin> fml :d
#2112 [10:47] <wartech0> I say hello and it goes instantly to the server but doesn't go back to the client
#2113 [10:47] <Ffx> I just have one question....why use one master server for auth...Notch knowing its been booming he needs to have sectionized the auth servers
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#2115 [10:49] <wartech0> Why does this bug only happen to certin people
#2116 [10:49] <wartech0> its weird
#2117 [10:50] <wartech0> I mean they have nothing on it on minecraft forums no responses or official responses at all
#2118 [10:50] <xales> Ffx: it doesn't work that way
#2119 [10:50] <xales> they are already on a "cloud computing" platform, meaning numerous actual servers are handling the load
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#2121 [10:52] <mottigenhond> hi
#2122 [10:52] <wartech0> 502 bad gateway?
#2123 [10:52] <mottigenhond> the login servers are down again?
#2124 [10:52] <xales> yes
#2125 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2126 [10:52] <wartech0> on minecraft forum servers
#2127 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#2128 [10:52] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
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#2130 [10:52] <wartech0> it looks like alot of shit is going awire GreyVulpine
#2131 [10:53] <mottigenhond> other question, i can't upload a new skin, i get a nullpointerexception
#2132 [10:53] <wartech0> I feel bad for mojang right now
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#2134 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> You can't?
#2135 [10:55] <mottigenhond> nope
#2136 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Works for me
#2137 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Let me guess, you're using minecraftskins.com?
#2138 [10:56] <mottigenhond> hmm, i cant open the png on my desktop
#2139 [10:56] <mottigenhond> maybe a bad file
#2140 [10:56] <mottigenhond> nope, made my own
#2141 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#2142 [10:56] <mottigenhond> do you need any special png settings?
#2143 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Well, I just used the site to upload, works fine
#2144 [10:56] <Ffx> Wow...this problem always happens on saturday
#2145 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> That.. I can't tell you
#2146 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> brb in 10
#2147 [10:57] <Ffx> alrighty
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#2149 [10:58] <johnny> hello
#2150 [10:58] <johnny> why is the server down
#2151 [10:58] <xales> .motd Auth servers are currently down. Please do not come here just to complain. There is no ETA until they are fixed
#2152 [10:58] <M> Setting MOTD of #MineCraftHelp
#2153 [10:58] <Ffx> alrighty made a forum for the old client in the support section of the forum
#2154 [10:58] <xales> johnny: because it is?
#2155 [10:58] <Ffx> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=209752
#2156 [10:59] <johnny> i cant even get on the website
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#2160 [10:59] <FFx> cute
#2161 [11:00] <xales> not my problem that you are breaking the TOS
#2162 [11:00] <dsfdg> amm i have a question
#2163 [11:00] <FFx> where the hell does it say don't post links?
#2164 [11:00] <xales> midigi: ask
#2165 [11:00] <xales> FFx: pretty much everywhere. especially the "do not distribute." http://minecraft.net/copyright.jsp
#2166 [11:00] <rf`> !isdown minecraft.net
#2167 [11:00] <GreyBot> rf`: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2168 [11:00] <rf`> derp
#2169 [11:01] <FFx> yea? really? how about I went and clicked on community and clicked this irc link...
#2170 [11:01] <johnny> no its down
#2171 [11:01] <mottigenhond> i changed my skin, it just was a bad file ... thx
#2172 [11:01] <johnny> i can join
#2173 [11:01] <johnny> cant*
#2174 [11:01] <FFx> next time: warning... L2mod
#2175 [11:01] <FFx> I'm off
#2176 [11:01] <mottigenhond> now its waiting for the auth servers to get back online
#2177 [11:01] <FFx> I'm pisssed now
#2178 [11:01] <mottigenhond> i'm off too
#2179 [11:01] <xales> why are people so seriously stupid
#2180 [11:01] <mottigenhond> cya
#2181 [11:02] <midigi> i just used my gift code and tryed to log in with exe i just downloaded it dosent connect to the server when i click on that and i can log in with browser and play and when i try exe offline and try multiplayer from there it says user not premium thx
#2182 [11:02] <mottigenhond> the login servers are down, jus wait a bit
#2183 [11:02] <mottigenhond> happens now and then, minecraft is too popular :p
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#2188 [11:07] <D3RGPS31> Complain >:v
#2189 [11:08] <w> why?
#2190 [11:09] <ItsCriminal> hope auth is back soon :D
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#2192 [11:11] <skyflare> this sucks
#2193 [11:12] <ItsCriminal> o.O?
#2194 [11:12] <midigi> why my browser works and launcher says i m not premium?
#2195 [11:12] <w> they use different authentication systems
#2196 [11:12] <skyflare> they sould get it sorted tbh
#2197 [11:12] <w> Use the web version as an interim measure.
#2198 [11:12] <skyflare> or atleast give a explanation or somthing
#2199 [11:12] <midigi> how to fix ? xD
#2200 [11:13] <ItsCriminal> omg why people can't wait a bit or play in browser -.- always this flamming
#2201 [11:13] <midigi> but user not premium is related to that?
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#2204 [11:15] <Lanthanide> Hi.
#2205 [11:15] <ItsCriminal> u saied you clicked play offline
#2206 [11:16] <ItsCriminal> so play offline multiplayer would just work if the server where you wanna connect allows that but most are Online only so you need the be authed
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#2208 [11:17] <Duderino> how long does it take before i can play the game after i buy it , just did but i cant play says i havent bught it....
#2209 [11:18] <ItsCriminal> i got acces to the game 5min later
#2210 [11:18] <Duderino> ohhh...
#2211 [11:18] <ItsCriminal> but from some i heared it took 12hours
#2212 [11:18] <Duderino> got a mail or something?
#2213 [11:18] <ItsCriminal> no
#2214 [11:18] <ItsCriminal> i just got the mail that i bourgh it
#2215 [11:18] <Duderino> ok
#2216 [11:19] <Duderino> ok, havent got that yet so...
#2217 [11:19] <wartech0> auth servers are down
#2218 [11:19] <ItsCriminal> well waiting is hard but you have to
#2219 [11:19] <wartech0> might mean you may not get it until they are back up
#2220 [11:20] <Duderino> bad timing
#2221 [11:20] <Duderino> !
#2222 [11:20] <Duderino> damn
#2223 [11:20] <wartech0> yea don't type to fast
#2224 [11:20] <Duderino> :)
#2225 [11:20] <wartech0> or you will be banned lol
#2226 [11:20] <wartech0> for 3 seconds
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#2228 [11:21] <Lanthanide> i have a little question: do the loggin timeout only for me, or it is a global probleme? svp.
#2229 [11:21] <xales> Lanthanide: the login servers are down. everyone has the problem
#2230 [11:21] <wartech0> the topic clearly states that
#2231 [11:21] <skyflare> sucks to play minecraft atm
#2232 [11:22] <Lanthanide> thanks, :)
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#2235 [11:22] <Dotted> I'm getting "[: 194: root: unexpected operator" when running http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_startup_script but i cant figure out what causes it
#2236 [11:23] <wartech0> sounds like you put something in that doesn't belong
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#2238 [11:23] <kermit> i can't login to mc - Is the authentication server down ?
#2239 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Indeed kermit
#2240 [11:23] <Dotted> wartech0 its a copy/paste
#2241 [11:23] <wartech0> hmm
#2242 [11:24] <wartech0> you changed the settings right
#2243 [11:24] <Lanthanide> xales thanks.
#2244 [11:24] <Lanthanide> hum, already said it, oops.
#2245 [11:24] <Mash> Anyone in here even have any of the teams' contact info to let them know it is in fact down?
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#2247 [11:24] <Dotted> well the variables point to the right places
#2248 [11:25] <Mash> I'm starting to go bonkers without my blurry, overly-pixelated 2011 bricks.
#2249 [11:26] <kermit> Doe anybody know why i can't login to minecraft
#2250 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#2251 [11:26] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
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#2253 [11:27] <kermit> thx
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#2255 [11:27] <wartech0> I am sure Notch and his team are scrambling to fix the problem
#2256 [11:28] <Mash> That's _if_ they're even aware of the problem.
#2257 [11:28] <wartech0> Mash
#2258 [11:28] <wartech0> I am pretty sure they are
#2259 [11:29] <Mash> yippe, one of my 4 dell 24"'ers just took a crap.
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#2262 [11:29] <wartech0> one of the thousands upon thousands of players has to know Notch personally
#2263 [11:29] <wartech0> or at least how to get ahold of him
#2264 [11:30] <wartech0> who knows maybe they were having a huge office party and someone set thier beer ontop of the Auth server and it spilt
#2265 [11:31] <wartech0> and they are all too drunk to fix it
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#2267 [11:31] <wartech0> thats my take on the story
#2268 [11:31] <wartech0> and that means its true
#2269 [11:32] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2270 [11:32] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#2272 [11:33] <VoxelHead> Lol l@@k its peru__
#2273 [11:33] <johnny> the website is down to many connections
#2274 [11:34] <wartech0> the system is down
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#2276 [11:35] <VoxelHead> Hi yo~
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#2279 [11:35] <johnny> iit wont let me talk in the #minecraft channel and im registured
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#2281 [11:36] <TheNytangel> -ChanServ- (#minecraft) This channel is moderated. For general chatter, please go to #mcchatter. Ops: please be strict.
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#2284 [11:37] <peru> darn my isp
#2285 [11:37] <VoxelHead> shh zippity, it's quiet time now
#2286 [11:37] <peru> or my router, who knows
#2287 [11:37] <zippity> how i am cant play?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!???!??!??!!?!?!?!???!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!??!!??!?!?!?
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#2289 [11:37] <TheNytangel> lol
#2290 [11:37] <raisin> Ok GreyVulpine i figured it out
#2291 [11:37] <raisin> i think
#2292 [11:37] <xales> zippity: the server is down
#2293 [11:37] <raisin> oh hes not here ?
#2294 [11:37] <Mash> kline >,>
#2295 [11:38] <raisin> Hmmmm
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#2297 [11:38] <raisin> Ok so i can play minecraft now
#2298 [11:38] <DjM1zw1z> I am sick of Minecraft.net being down all the time
#2299 [11:38] <raisin> but when i try to install mods its not working
#2300 [11:38] <zippity> I AM CANT CONNECT TO MINECRAFT.NET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2303 [11:38] <raisin> its not thath i did it wrong
#2304 [11:38] <raisin> But i need to install a mod
#2305 [11:38] <DjM1zw1z> I payed for the game. i expect to go on it sometimes
#2306 [11:39] <xales> DjM1zw1z: this is the first time it's been down for more than a week
#2307 [11:39] <xales> this is not the complaint center
#2308 [11:39] <raisin> so i can delete the modded blocks and play my world again
#2309 [11:39] <raisin> any help ?
#2310 [11:39] <DjM1zw1z> Ye but i was on holiday
#2311 [11:39] <Orpheus> (: hey grey (:
#2312 [11:39] <xales> if you have a complaint, don't bother community volunteers
#2313 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Yo?
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#2315 [11:39] <VoxelHead> Wilkommen domoarigato.
#2316 [11:39] <domoArigato> hey
#2317 [11:39] <DjM1zw1z> No im just saying why does it do this
#2318 [11:39] <raisin> Ooh Grey, i figured it out
#2319 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Oh raisin?
#2320 [11:39] <raisin> yea umm
#2321 [11:39] <xales> ??> DjM1zw1z mc.net/hosting
#2322 [11:39] <VoxelHead> DjM1zw1z: (mc.net/hosting) Since migrating over to Amazon's EC2 cloud, the cluster servers for minecraft.net have been under impressive strain. It has continually buckled under the pressure of registering users, authenticating clients, crediting accounts, providing custom skin content, maintaining a classic server directory, as well as providing a front-end website for users.
#2323 [11:39] <raisin> i can play minecraft
#2324 [11:39] <VoxelHead> DjM1zw1z: (mc.net/hosting) This is clearly not intended and Mojang is working on a new server arrangement, but is ensuring that it's done properly and not just quickly as was the move to Amazon.
#2325 [11:40] <raisin> buy i cant install any mods
#2326 [11:40] <domoArigato> can someone tell my, how to change my name in offline-mode from "PLAYER" to something else?
#2327 [11:40] <raisin> anymore
#2328 [11:40] <DjM1zw1z> ok
#2329 [11:40] <raisin> because then it fails
#2330 [11:40] <domoArigato> my == me
#2331 [11:40] <xales> domoArigato: you can use a mod, but that's about it. we can't help with that
#2332 [11:40] <domoArigato> thanks a lot, xales
#2333 [11:41] <raisin> So GreyVulpine can you help me with thath maybe ?
#2334 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't know raisin.
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#2336 [11:41] <VoxelHead> Shnaw ._.
#2337 [11:41] <raisin> :(
#2338 [11:41] <wartech0> the world is coming to a end
#2339 [11:41] <wartech0> no minecraft == destruction of the universe
#2340 [11:41] <raisin> In order to get my world back i need to reinstall the mod but if i install a mod , minecraft crashes
#2341 [11:42] <Orpheus> raisin whatta ya mean you can't install any mods?
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#2343 [11:42] <VoxelHead> are you here to fumigate the moose labia?
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#2345 [11:42] <defensis> Hello, im newcomer and i need some tech support. Anyone can help me ?
#2346 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> defensis - With?
#2347 [11:42] <oldtopman> Just ask.
#2348 [11:43] <defensis> ii just dowload the game
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#2350 [11:43] <defensis> and i launch the launcher, i type login and password and i press log in
#2351 [11:43] <raisin> well if i install the mod, or any mod , when the game starts it freezes at Updating inecraft
#2352 [11:44] <defensis> and i see (in launcher) a message Logging in...
#2353 [11:44] <defensis> and after a while i see
#2354 [11:44] <fajii> ahh i see authenticfication server is down?
#2355 [11:44] <defensis> t connect to minecraft.net
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#2357 [11:44] <defensis> cant connect *
#2358 [11:44] <PcJamesy> fajii i can get in on the old launcher
#2359 [11:44] <xales> defensis: the server is down right now
#2360 [11:44] <raisin> Orpheus if i install any mod minecraft freezes at the loading screeen
#2361 [11:44] <fajii> i dont have the old launcher
#2362 [11:44] <defensis> btw. someone know a site with cool skins to mc ? :P
#2363 [11:45] <PcJamesy> fajii here http://pcjamesy.tonidoid.com/app/webshare/share/Minecraft1541384399/
#2364 [11:45] <defensis> how long i need wait ? i just bought an one original copy and i want to try at original server so..
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#2366 [11:45] <fajii> ahh great
#2367 [11:45] <fajii> its working
#2368 [11:45] <fajii> thx man
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#2370 [11:45] <VoxelHead> Welcome to our next contestant, pcjamesy!
#2371 [11:45] <xales> defensis: until it gets back up. don't know when that will be
#2372 [11:46] <Con> VoxelHead: a TV?
#2373 [11:46] <VoxelHead> green
#2374 [11:46] <VoxelHead> No! Blue!
#2375 [11:46] <defensis> heh
#2376 [11:46] <VoxelHead> :)
#2377 [11:46] <defensis> ive tried before on ceacked server before... and this game is just awesome
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#2379 [11:46] <defensis> for respect to the makers i just bought an original copy
#2380 [11:46] <Con> Voxel, how do you get a coloured TV..?
#2381 [11:47] <Orpheus> defensis - http://www.minecraftskins.com/ for skins
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#2383 [11:47] <VoxelHead> try twisting
#2384 [11:47] <defensis> thanks orp
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#2387 [11:47] <Orpheus> raisin, did you follow the instructions, i had a similar issue when i installed a map mod? and what mod?
#2388 [11:47] <raisin> Noo, noo
#2389 [11:47] <VoxelHead> hi yo~
#2390 [11:47] <Zantax> Sorry to bug everyone but how do you get a front view or side view of your character? I have tried f5 then holding f1 but all it does it turn off the HUD, are there any camera controls?
#2391 [11:48] <raisin> the Mod worked fine, but when i deleted my bin
#2392 [11:48] <raisin> if i tried to reinstall it freezes
#2393 [11:48] <Orpheus> camera is controlled by the mouse.
#2394 [11:48] <Orpheus> if you deleted your bin surly you can just restore it?
#2395 [11:49] <Orpheus> what OS are you running?
#2396 [11:49] <Con> Zantax: If you press F5 to go to third-person view then hold F1, it'll make the HUD disappear and rotate the camera around so you can see your face
#2397 [11:49] <raisin> Windows vista
#2398 [11:49] <SkiingPenguins> raisin why not use the recycling bin
#2399 [11:50] <Orpheus> the bin hasn't gone to the recycle bin has it?
#2400 [11:50] <raisin> but i removed the bin several times after thath to try to install it
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#2402 [11:50] <raisin> umm
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#2404 [11:50] <Zantax> that doesn't work Con, I press f5 then pres and hold F1 and the hud disappears but when I move my mouse my avatar still turns, it doesn't free up my camera lock.
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#2407 [11:50] <VoxelHead> Sup BEARD.
#2408 [11:50] <Adrian1992> when will the MC launcher get fixed? coz I cant connect to minecraft on my mac..
#2409 [11:50] * Kealper yawns
#2409 [11:50] <BEARD> auth server is down, that's about it :P
#2410 [11:50] <Con> Zantax: But it does give you a front view?
#2411 [11:50] <Adrian1992> :(
#2412 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#2413 [11:50] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#2414 [11:51] <Zantax> not it doesn't give me front view either
#2415 [11:51] <Zantax> just the back of my avatars head
#2416 [11:51] <Adrian1992> yeah Im using safari to play minecraft.. but theres no sound lol
#2417 [11:51] <raisin> Orpheus i have 7 bin folders in my recycle thingu
#2418 [11:51] <raisin> thingi*
#2419 [11:51] <Orpheus> well find the earliest one, and restore it
#2420 [11:51] <raisin> no dates or hours are entioned
#2421 [11:52] <Orpheus> right click and go properties
#2422 [11:52] <raisin> k
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#2424 [11:53] <Orpheus> it should say "deleted: " then give a time and date/
#2425 [11:53] <poiloute> hiù.
#2426 [11:54] <Con> poiloute: ü
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#2429 [11:54] <VoxelHead> I like them ;)
#2430 [11:54] <raisin> yea its there
#2431 [11:54] <raisin> i cant restore the oldest one
#2432 [11:54] <Orpheus> what does it say?
#2433 [11:54] <Con> VoxelHead: You like beards? or ü?
#2434 [11:54] <raisin> cuz i downloaded the mod today and it worked fine then
#2435 [11:55] <VoxelHead> Con: ü
#2436 [11:55] <VoxelHead> Or you could just use a placebo.
#2437 [11:55] <Con> Voxel, stop taking dope
#2438 [11:55] <poiloute> just bad letter. would say hi :"3
#2439 [11:55] <Zantax> Con, any other ideas? its really annoying that it isn't working... f5 goes to third person, pressing and holding f1 and moving the mouse results in the HUD being removed but the camera is still locked directly behind my character and my character turns
#2440 [11:55] <raisin> ok the one i tried now is not the right one
#2441 [11:56] <Orpheus> raisin, you should be able to delete the current bin, and restore the oldest one. that should fix the crash.
#2442 [11:56] <raisin> I think i need to reëxplain
#2443 [11:56] <Smorfy> Is there an info, how long it can takes, until the network is ready?
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#2446 [11:56] <raisin> It crashed because there is a building in my house
#2447 [11:56] <raisin> thath was made with modded items
#2448 [11:56] <raisin> the Fanblocks
#2449 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Smorfy - Sorry, nope.
#2450 [11:56] <raisin> So in order for me to play thath world again
#2451 [11:57] <raisin> i need to reinstall the mod
#2452 [11:57] <Smorfy> Thx
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#2455 [11:57] <VoxelHead> Good Morning Benbestvater.
#2456 [11:57] <Orpheus> yeh raisin you would.
#2457 [11:57] <raisin> but i when i try install, it crashes
#2458 [11:57] <BenBestvater> Hey guys, my server's been hacked. If there are people logging into MY account onto the server, how concerned should I be, and where can I get support? Anyone know?
#2459 [11:57] <raisin> you get my problem now ?
#2460 [11:57] <iKing> I can agree to this statement, I play on the same server.
#2461 [11:57] <TrueWolves> Ben, you know someone named Kyo-chi?
#2462 [11:57] <iKing> All three admins have been hacked.
#2463 [11:58] <BenBestvater> yes wolves
#2464 [11:58] <TrueWolves> Yeah she's already told me a lot of this
#2465 [11:58] <Con> iKing: Is the server in offline-mode?
#2466 [11:58] <BenBestvater> Yes. My account was hacked.
#2467 [11:58] <TrueWolves> your acounts are likely not hacked but rather being impersonated on the server, with the Auth server being down being the reason you can't get on your account
#2468 [11:58] <raisin> Orpheus ?
#2469 [11:58] <TrueWolves> that's my guess at least.
#2470 [11:58] <BenBestvater> It is online as far as I know
#2471 [11:58] <rf`> !isdown http://www.minecraftforum.net/
#2472 [11:58] <GreyBot> rf`: It's just you. http://www.minecraftforum.net is up.
#2473 [11:58] <Orpheus> yeh I get the problem raisin. are you certain it's THAT mod that is causing the crash?
#2474 [11:58] <Orpheus> do you have modloader installed?
#2475 [11:59] <Con> If it's a multiple-admin matter, I'd agree with what TrueWolves said
#2476 [11:59] <Orpheus> as I know that causes a crash if you don't delete something or other.
#2477 [11:59] <TrueWolves> I already told Kyochi the same information... don't worry your accounts should be safe
#2478 [11:59] <TrueWolves> Your... server however
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#2480 [11:59] <BenBestvater> Okay, thanks wolves
#2481 [11:59] <TrueWolves> That is a bigger worry.
#2482 [11:59] <VoxelHead> Gabeee you're looking especially shagworthy today
#2483 [11:59] <raisin> I had a modloader installed
#2484 [11:59] <raisin> yea
#2485 [12:00] <raisin> but i tried with and without it
#2486 [12:00] <raisin> still crashed
#2487 [12:00] <iKing> The server is fine at the moment.
#2488 [12:00] <iKing> Nothing has been griefed as far as i'm aware.
#2489 [12:00] <raisin> any other mod => lead to a crash
#2490 [12:00] <BenBestvater> Any idea how they got in?
#2491 [12:00] <TrueWolves> Not sure, as it sounds more like they got through your server provider first.
#2492 [12:00] <TrueWolves> if they are able to edit the whitelist and such
#2493 [12:01] <raisin> ?
#2494 [12:01] <BenBestvater> The owner is in berlin. I've tried contacting our host, but the website support went down
#2495 [12:01] <TrueWolves> then yeah I think it's more something wrong on their end then yours unfortantly.
#2496 [12:01] <BenBestvater> As in... They are not very reliable
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#2498 [12:01] <Zantax> anyone else having issues with camera control?
#2499 [12:01] <VoxelHead> Hay kuth.
#2500 [12:02] <raisin> Orpheus u still there ?
#2501 [12:03] <Gabeee> hik
#2502 [12:03] <Gabeee> hi
#2503 [12:03] <Gabeee> are minecraft servers down?
#2504 [12:03] <BenBestvater> yes
#2505 [12:03] <raisin> Orpheus ?
#2506 [12:04] <Gabeee> are there any solutions for it?
#2507 [12:04] <BenBestvater> Not that I'm aware of.
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#2509 [12:04] <Gabeee> do we know when will it comes back:
#2510 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Use the in-browser client
#2511 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> Still works
#2512 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> And no Gabeee, we don't know
#2513 [12:05] <Gabeee> for Alpha? xDDD
#2514 [12:06] <raisin> Why did i do thath mod
#2515 [12:06] <raisin> im so stupid
#2516 [12:06] <Orpheus> sorry raisin i dnt have a NA script,
#2517 [12:07] <Orpheus> well have you got more mods installed?
#2518 [12:07] <Orpheus> cos It might be a case of you have conflicting mods.
#2519 [12:07] <raisin> But i doesnt work with 1 mod either
#2520 [12:07] <raisin> if i delete the bin
#2521 [12:07] <raisin> restart game
#2522 [12:07] <raisin> and then isntall just 1 mod it still deosnt work
#2523 [12:07] <ItsCriminal> woho Auth worked
#2524 [12:07] <VoxelHead> And then a bear came.
#2525 [12:08] <icy_miner> GroupManager can some one explain to me wth i have to do (tried#bukkit) uninterested in helping
#2526 [12:09] <Orpheus> I dunno then raisin sorry
#2527 [12:09] <raisin> Goddamned
#2528 [12:09] <raisin> thanks anyway
#2529 [12:09] <raisin> I think i have to accept thath if lost my epic buildings
#2530 [12:10] <raisin> Oprheus thanks for your help
#2531 [12:10] <raisin> no sarcasm or anything
#2532 [12:10] <BenBestvater> Would there be any way of tracing these guys?
#2533 [12:11] <icy_miner> is it that i have to create the groups.yml myself or ?
#2534 [12:11] <icy_miner> etc
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#2536 [12:12] <LittleKrieger> its working now (for me atleast)
#2537 [12:12] <VoxelHead> mmm sinz|offline
#2538 [12:12] <Mash> Login server's working!
#2539 [12:13] <Mash> I don't care if I'm late, I still get my /hooray.
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#2541 [12:13] <hippoman343> hey
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#2543 [12:14] <hippoman343> hey
#2544 [12:14] <SkiingPenguins> hi?
#2545 [12:14] <raisin> I tried to reinstall the mod again => again black screen
#2546 [12:14] <figaro> yo Im having a problem its saying that it cant create a viutral java mechine
#2547 [12:14] <raisin> should i redownload it completly maybe ?
#2548 [12:14] <figaro> any help?
#2549 [12:15] <SkiingPenguins> figaro perhaps try reinstalling java
#2550 [12:15] <figaro> already have twice
#2551 [12:15] <SkiingPenguins> is it the right version for your computer?
#2552 [12:15] <figaro> and minecraft
#2553 [12:15] <figaro> yesd
#2554 [12:15] <figaro> yes
#2555 [12:15] <figaro> playing fine yesterday
#2556 [12:16] <raisin> now the minecraft site is overloaded ?
#2557 [12:17] <raisin> 500 Servlet Exception [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections! java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections! at com.mojang.minecraft.web.UserDB.getUser(UserDB.java:263) at com.mojang.minecraft.web.Users.loginWithUid(Users.java:27) at _jsp._index__jsp._jspService(header.jsp:44) at _jsp._index__jsp._jspServic
#2558 [12:17] <TrueWolves> it's been overloaded.
#2559 [12:19] <raisin> damned
#2560 [12:19] <figaro> any help with the java thing?
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#2563 [12:20] <hippoman343> anyone having problems getting on minecrAFFT?
#2564 [12:20] <figaro> yah wat are u getting
#2565 [12:20] <Mash> Auth servers are back up, they're just getting hammered with people trying to log in.
#2566 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#2567 [12:20] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#2568 [12:20] <Mash> Give it a few minutes and try again ^^
#2569 [12:21] <raisin> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#2570 [12:21] <raisin> it was so simple !!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2571 [12:21] <raisin> GreyVulpine
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#2573 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2574 [12:21] <raisin> do you have a download for me so i can redownload minecraft
#2575 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Erm?
#2576 [12:21] <hippoman343> ok
#2577 [12:21] <raisin> cuz the site is overloaded and i removed everthing
#2578 [12:21] <hippoman343> thanks
#2579 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> !client
#2580 [12:22] <raisin> and i think i now the solution
#2581 [12:24] <hippoman343> minecraft is back up
#2582 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
#2583 [12:24] <kaane> yes
#2584 [12:24] <raisin> WTH
#2585 [12:24] <BenBestvater> I'm in my server
#2586 [12:24] <hippoman343> same
#2587 [12:24] <raisin> It crashed though the all the modded blocks were removed ??
#2588 [12:25] <raisin> ooh no
#2589 [12:25] <BenBestvater> They took down everything
#2590 [12:25] <raisin> i forgot some :D
#2591 [12:25] <hippoman343> if anyone one is a experienced builder with photos u can join my dedicated server
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#2593 [12:25] <VoxelHead> Wasn't expecting Tonux!
#2594 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Please don't use this channel to advertise servers, That's what #smp is for.
#2595 [12:25] * VoxelHead hides.
#2595 [12:25] <hippoman343> sorry grey didnt know
#2596 [12:25] <hippoman343> wont happen again
#2597 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> I so need to talk to DopeGhoti about disabling that autogreet.
#2598 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> It's alright hippoman343.
#2599 [12:28] <raisin> Ok GreyVulpine its all fixed
#2600 [12:29] <raisin> you think i am able to install mods again now ?
#2601 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Neat
#2602 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> I don't know raisin.
#2603 [12:29] <raisin> Should i try ? :d
#2604 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> That's totally up to you.
#2605 [12:29] <raisin> ill try , i really want to use singleplayer commands again :d
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#2607 [12:30] <Autovirus> hello
#2608 [12:30] <Autovirus> how do i register my nick?
#2609 [12:30] <TrueWolves> for esper.net?
#2610 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#2611 [12:31] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2612 [12:31] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#2613 [12:32] <raisin> Yea my mods are working again
#2614 [12:32] <raisin> i need to go pee of excitement
#2615 [12:32] <raisin> brb
#2616 [12:32] * GreyVulpine blinks
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#2618 [12:34] <BenBestvater> Anyone know if /setspawn works in vanilla minecraft SMP?
#2619 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> No it doesn't BenBestvater.
#2620 [12:34] <BarryCarlyon> It doth not.
#2621 [12:34] <notBrandX> Looking forward to when beds will move spawn for players.
#2622 [12:34] <BenBestvater> Thanks. I'm assuming they moved spawn then before they took down all our plugins
#2623 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> You can still use a map editor to move a spawn point.
#2624 [12:36] <raisin> GreyVulpine do you know if you can add more commands ?
#2625 [12:36] <VoxelHead> who knows
#2626 [12:36] <BenBestvater> How would i be able to move spawn with a map editor?
#2627 [12:36] <notBrandX> Depends on the map editor, BenBest.
#2628 [12:36] <TrueWolves> most map editors let you set the spawn point
#2629 [12:36] <raisin> Voxelhead can i ?
#2630 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> One editor, MCedit, has a button which just moves the spawn point
#2631 [12:37] <VoxelHead> Let's all ask each other! that'll solve this problem!
#2632 [12:37] <BenBestvater> That doesn't help in our case.
#2633 [12:37] <Autovirus> MCedit will let you edit your spawnpoint
#2634 [12:37] * notBrandX points VoxelHead to the channel name.
#2634 [12:37] <BenBestvater> We would need the map files
#2635 [12:37] * VoxelHead idiots notBrandX in return
#2635 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#2637 [12:37] * GreyVulpine pokes VoxelHead.
#2637 [12:37] <VoxelHead> r hi PcJamesy
#2638 [12:37] * VoxelHead wrecks Greyvulpine back with ionface
#2638 [12:37] * SkiingPenguins wonders what is wrong with VoxelHead lately
#2638 [12:37] * VoxelHead loves it
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#2640 [12:38] <ionface> wat
#2641 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> I have no clue..
#2642 [12:38] <BenBestvater> Our server was just hacked. they stripped us of our plugins. The owner is in berlin
#2643 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> BenBestvater - Then there's nothing we can do, you'll need to get in contact with the server owner
#2644 [12:38] <BenBestvater> I know. Thanks for your support anyways
#2645 [12:38] <notBrandX> Huh. Maybe that's why the auth servers are offline -- to put a stop to the namespoofing I've been hearing about.
#2646 [12:38] <TrueWolves> no
#2647 [12:38] <TrueWolves> they are down becuase they are overloaded. XP
#2648 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> The auth servers are online now
#2649 [12:38] <TrueWolves> yeah
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#2651 [12:39] <notBrandX> Last I heard, it was just the https (with the new launcher) that was knocked off; the old launcher using http was okay.
#2652 [12:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#2652 [12:39] <notBrandX> Reminder to self: don't delete older versions of Minecraft software.
#2653 [12:40] <ionface> lol
#2654 [12:40] <domoArigato> can someone tell me if its possible to update a server, without losing the server's data?
#2655 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes it is domoArigato
#2656 [12:40] <domoArigato> got any further instructions maybe? GreyVulpine
#2657 [12:40] <notBrandX> worlds/saves will be converted to the new file format the first time they're loaded by the new server.
#2658 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Basically, all you need to do is redownload the server binary
#2659 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Replace the old one with it
#2660 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Be careful if you're running any mods, that may affect it
#2661 [12:41] <Orpheus> I'm fairly sure the auth servers back up tbh
#2662 [12:41] <domoArigato> ah okay. replacing the old .jar with the new one and thats it?
#2663 [12:41] <notBrandX> yeah, I just got in.
#2664 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Yes domo
#2665 [12:41] <domoArigato> thanks a ton :)
#2666 [12:41] <raisin> Greyvulpine is there a way to add more commands ?
#2667 [12:42] <VoxelHead> no thanks, i already have some
#2668 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Not without modding
#2669 [12:42] <notBrandX> Hopping over to my friend's world "poohtown" now. I didn't finish building the cart launcher last night.
#2670 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#2671 [12:42] <w> GreyVulpine: can I be pedantic and request removal of the trailing pipe in the topic? :)
#2672 [12:42] <VoxelHead> i wish i knew
#2673 [12:42] * GreyVulpine hehs
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#2674 [12:42] <BarryCarlyon> w is SOO pedantic!
#2675 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Man, I don't want to kickban VoxelHead, it's got some needed commands... but that chat script is getting on my nerves
#2676 [12:43] <w> What commands does it have?
#2677 [12:43] <notBrandX> wait, Voxelhead is a bot?
#2678 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
#2679 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> ?? bot
#2680 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> er
#2681 [12:43] <BarryCarlyon> That was what I was about to say!
#2682 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> friggin
#2683 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> I don't remember the command for that one
#2684 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> ?? commands
#2685 [12:44] <VoxelHead> commands: See http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex for a list of FAQ entries
#2686 [12:44] <notBrandX> foo. And I was thinking people were asking about 'add more commands' to the vanilla SMP server.
#2687 [12:44] <raisin> Greyvulpine can you like desing buildings and then put it into minecraft ?
#2688 [12:44] <VoxelHead> what do you think?
#2689 [12:44] <VoxelHead> bye Orpheus
#2690 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#2691 [12:45] <w> VoxelHead: dontclick
#2692 [12:45] <notBrandX> raisin, do you mean pasting an entire building as a single action into the world?
#2693 [12:45] <raisin> yea :d
#2694 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> w - it's with:
#2695 [12:45] <w> ?? dontclick
#2696 [12:45] <VoxelHead> dontclick: You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#2697 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#2698 [12:45] <w> Ah.
#2699 [12:45] <w> ?? retro
#2700 [12:45] * w is intrigued
#2700 [12:45] <notBrandX> You can do that with mcedit, I think, but not in Survival Multiplayer Play (SMP)
#2701 [12:45] <VoxelHead> retro: Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#2702 [12:45] <VoxelHead> retro: Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#2703 [12:45] <raisin> wth ?
#2704 [12:45] <w> ?? virus
#2705 [12:45] <w> ?? requirements
#2706 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Some people equate graphics with how much a game will tax a system
#2707 [12:45] <notBrandX> I haven't tried it myself. I build stuff by hand.
#2708 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Hence, retro
#2709 [12:46] <w> oh, good, it /notices
#2710 [12:46] <raisin> i mean designing a building like a floating castle, and then put it in minecraft without building the stone one by one
#2711 [12:46] <w> 1.5 GB RAM? wow.
#2712 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Sure, with a map editor raisin
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#2714 [12:46] <VoxelHead> Sup TrueWolves.
#2715 [12:46] <raisin> yea but not with Mc edit right ?
#2716 [12:47] <w> ?? prepaid
#2717 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> MCedit has the "schematics" feature, the ability to save a blueprint of whatever, and paste it in
#2718 [12:47] <notBrandX> raisin, you'd need to shutdown the server (or unload the territory you're going to paste to) and edit the save files directly, I think.
#2719 [12:47] * GreyVulpine nods
#2719 [12:47] <Mjiig> ?? virus
#2720 [12:47] * w waits impatiuetly
#2720 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam with the bot
#2721 [12:47] <w> er, impatiently.
#2722 [12:47] <raisin> i realy think thath MC edit is very hard to work with
#2723 [12:47] <oldtopman> notBrandX: Couldn't you do "save-off" until you were done?
#2724 [12:47] <Mjiig> GreyVulpine: sorry i was just far too curious
#2725 [12:48] * notBrandX admits he's never run a server, just helped QC for server admins.
#2725 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> oldtopman - It doesn't really work that way
#2726 [12:48] <oldtopman> but then it would leave the saves alone for editing.
#2727 [12:49] <notBrandX> I think, if you wanted to 'paste' a structure to a live server, you'd have to get everyone to move 120-150m away from the chunks so the server would unload them from memory... then edit the files on-disk... then when people come back, the server will load the edited chunks.
#2728 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> You're still editing a live map that's in use.
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#2730 [12:49] <notBrandX> Oh, wait, that's the old save format. I don't know how many chunks are per-file in the new format.
#2731 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> 4
#2732 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> I believe..
#2733 [12:49] <Nesky> there are admin on this chanel plzz i need help
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#2735 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> Nesky - With?
#2736 [12:50] <xales> Nesky: help with...?
#2737 [12:50] <notBrandX> (I helped an admin restore a corrupt map by identifying the glitched chunks, then he restored the chunk files one-by-one.)
#2738 [12:50] <raisin> GreyVulpine what do you mean with blueprints( i know what it is but ...)
#2739 [12:50] <notBrandX> I think "blueprints" is an mcedit term, for a volume of cubes that you would paste into the world.
#2740 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> raisin - MCedit can save a 'schematic' file, basically a chunk of land that has blocks arraigned in whatever way, and you can paste them in like you paste an image
#2741 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> There was an SMP mod which can also read in MCedit's schematic file...
#2742 [12:51] <Nesky> because i want buy the game but he say authentification renied
#2743 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> WorldEdit, I believe
#2744 [12:51] <raisin> World is for creating spheres and such right ?
#2745 [12:52] <notBrandX> Nesky, at no point during the game-purchase procedure would you see "authentication denied," unless you were using a credit card and forgot your password.
#2746 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no, it can do more than that
#2747 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Or your credit card company denied the process.
#2748 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> You may need to talk to them
#2749 [12:52] * w goes hunting for a get satisfaction mod
#2749 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> w - Did you need something?
#2750 [12:53] <xales> Nesky: "Authentication denied" is a problem with your bank/card issuer
#2751 [12:53] <xales> contact them
#2752 [12:53] <VoxelHead> Contact them... cem.
#2753 [12:54] <notBrandX> I think w means a moderator that looks after http://getsatisfaction.com/Mojang ?
#2754 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> I know
#2755 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> One moment
#2756 [12:54] <notBrandX> Although, a server-side mod that lets one file getsatisfaction.com tickets from inside the game, that would be nifty.
#2757 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> w - PM miclee with that
#2758 [12:54] <raisin> Ok im in Mcedit now
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#2760 [12:54] <raisin> so what do you mean ?
#2761 [12:54] <VoxelHead> welcome to our next contestant, bfir3!
#2762 [12:55] <raisin> Grey ?
#2763 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2764 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> Oh, how to put in schematics?
#2765 [12:56] <raisin> So im in the Mcedit and i want to create a floating castle
#2766 [12:56] <raisin> yea
#2767 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> Okay. Do you know the basics of MCedit? How to select? How to move about?
#2768 [12:56] <raisin> yea
#2769 [12:57] <Nesky> french ?
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#2771 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Well, it's just as simple as selecting a block of land, then "Filling" it with blocks
#2772 [12:57] <VoxelHead> so, like, hey thebutterytone
#2773 [12:57] <raisin> but i want a floating castle right
#2774 [12:58] <raisin> i shoudl build one block in the air and select it ?
#2775 [12:58] <Nesky> plz french ?
#2776 [12:58] <thebutterytone> I just got a dedicated server, and i'm trying to do some of the server commands like /give. but it doesn't seem to work. Can anyone direct me to a solution?
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#2778 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> thebutterytone - You need to op yourself in the server console
#2779 [12:58] <VoxelHead> Sup bildramer.
#2780 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Then use /give
#2781 [12:58] <Nesky> wisp me if there are french
#2782 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> raisin - Don't just select one block, select an area with MCedit, then Fill it
#2783 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Nesky, quoi?
#2784 [12:59] <raisin> ok
#2785 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Nesky - Avec Quoi?
#2786 [13:00] <notBrandX> if there are French... fries? French users? French language mods?
#2787 [13:00] <BenBestvater> Is it possible to bring a server down (not restarting) through a command?
#2788 [13:00] <raisin> well i cant select in mid air
#2789 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Yes, with "stop"
#2790 [13:00] <Nesky> voila merci quand j'achete le jeu donc je met le code de la carte bleu sa apelle pour le code d'identification et quand sa verifie il me dise sa "Transaction error
#2791 [13:00] <Nesky> An error occured and your purchase was not completed
#2792 [13:00] <Nesky> Message from server: authentication denied.
#2793 [13:00] <Nesky> If you need to contact the shop please use the following reference ID: 112728898"
#2794 [13:00] <BenBestvater> That would only restart it.. I think
#2795 [13:00] <raisin> whats stop ?
#2796 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Nope, "Stop" stops the server
#2797 [13:00] <thebutterytone> I just tried /op [my name] and the server log says 'tried command"
#2798 [13:00] <raisin> where can i select it
#2799 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> thebutterytone - Just use "op thebutterytone"
#2800 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> No slash
#2801 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> In the server's console
#2802 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> raisin - Select the ground, then "Nudge" it upwards
#2803 [13:01] <icy_miner> uninstalling a mod is it easy as just deleteing its jar - folders ?
#2804 [13:01] <Nesky> rep
#2805 [13:01] <thebutterytone> is the server console just the chat box?
#2806 [13:01] <BenBestvater> I don't have access to console. Our owner is away.
#2807 [13:02] <BenBestvater> Is there any alternitive?
#2808 [13:02] <raisin> ok
#2809 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> thebutterytone - Are you running minecraft_server.exe?
#2810 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> BenBestvater - Nope.
#2811 [13:02] <thebutterytone> I just got a dedicated server from UGS
#2812 [13:02] * VoxelHead is away: tea
#2812 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> thebutterytone - Okay, then, do you have access to the files on the server. Specifically, "ops.txt"?
#2813 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> Add yourself to that file, one name per line. Then restart the server
#2814 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> That'll make you an op each time the server starts up
#2815 [13:03] <raisin> umm how to i nudge upwards i can only nudge sideways
#2816 [13:03] <notBrandX> Nesky: ca c'est une probleme avec ta banque?
#2817 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> raisin - "Q" and... uh, z?
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#2819 [13:03] <Nesky> im french
#2820 [13:04] <Nesky> ok
#2821 [13:04] <notBrandX> Je suis un anglophone vivant au Québec.
#2822 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Nesky - Vous devrez appeler la compagnie de carte de crédit.
#2823 [13:05] <Nesky> ok Merci
#2824 [13:05] <raisin> ok Grey
#2825 [13:05] <raisin> i g2g eat now
#2826 [13:05] <notBrandX> Desolé, nous ne pouvons pas t'aide avec problemes du banque et achats.
#2827 [13:05] <raisin> brb
#2828 [13:06] <thebutterytone> GreyVulpine - Thank you!
#2829 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> Sure
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#2831 [13:06] <kwiskass> hi
#2832 [13:07] <kwiskass> salut
#2833 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> salut.
#2834 [13:07] <notBrandX> I know using coal for smelting is wasteful... but I prefer it.
#2835 [13:07] <icy_miner> how do i remove mods :-/
#2836 [13:07] <icy_miner> plugins
#2837 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall of minecraft
#2838 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on?
#2839 [13:08] <icy_miner> ubuntu
#2840 [13:08] <icy_miner> vps
#2841 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> go to your home directory, in there, you'll find a .minecraft folder
#2842 [13:08] <icy_miner> only via terminal
#2843 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. is this for single or SMP?
#2844 [13:08] <icy_miner> smp
#2845 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Oh. uh.
#2846 [13:08] <notBrandX> client-side mods, or server-side mods?
#2847 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> You're running bukkit?
#2848 [13:08] <icy_miner> yer :(
#2849 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Then you just need to remove the plugin from the plugins directory.
#2850 [13:09] <icy_miner> and GroupManager must be purged for it is the devil
#2851 [13:10] <icy_miner> no to harsh but i canot configure it as the files just arent there
#2852 [13:10] <notBrandX> I thought GroupManager was the new Permissions?
#2853 [13:10] <icy_miner> i would use it but none wil help over at bukkit
#2854 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> icy_miner - This discussion might be better suited for #bukkit. Not a lot of us here know bukkit too well
#2855 [13:10] <hippoman343> bukkit is really bad
#2856 [13:11] <notBrandX> What's the alternative, hippoman?
#2857 [13:11] <hippoman343> im sorry. but hmod was so perfect
#2858 [13:11] <Mash> why bad? I rather enjoy bukkit servers.
#2859 [13:11] <hippoman343> hmod
#2860 [13:11] <icy_miner> no im not going back on #bukkit bunch of arrogant -----
#2861 [13:11] <hippoman343> thats what i use
#2862 [13:11] <hippoman343> for 1.3
#2863 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> hmod was the predecessor to bukkit. It's been discontinued as far as I know
#2864 [13:11] <Mash> Thought hMod wasn't finished and is now like, not being actively developed?
#2865 [13:11] <hippoman343> it isnt but a guy is updateing it
#2866 [13:12] <hippoman343> and its great
#2867 [13:12] <hippoman343> no bugs that i know of
#2868 [13:12] <hippoman343> been using it for a while now
#2869 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Eh, not from what I last heard..
#2870 [13:12] <notBrandX> Does this guy make announcements?
#2871 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2872 [13:12] <Mash> That's just fanboyism right there, I'll be sticking with the one that has a team of devs and a rather large following
#2873 [13:13] <icy_miner> basically i have GroupsManager set how the damn forum tells you (by the way is O so helpfull) :P i go looking for the files to edit they do not exist
#2874 [13:13] <hippoman343> im not a fanboy its just that to have a basic server for bukkit u need like 4 plugins
#2875 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Only because bukkit is unfinished.
#2876 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> But it's got more people coding for it right now than hmod.
#2877 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> Plus everybody that worked on hmod, has moved to bukkit.
#2878 [13:14] <hippoman343> yea but idk. i like it
#2879 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> Whatever works, I suppose.
#2880 [13:14] <SkiingPenguins> crazy peoples
#2881 [13:14] <hippoman343> maybe. when bukkit is finishes ill try it out
#2882 [13:14] <notBrandX> I could argue the case, but I think it's a matter of taste for you. I won't pooh-pooh hmod -- maybe you know something I don't.
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#2884 [13:15] <notBrandX> Where can people find out more about this one dude that's keeping hmod up-to-date?
#2885 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Google, I suppose.
#2886 [13:15] <hippoman343> can i post a link?
#2887 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Go for it
#2888 [13:15] <hippoman343> kk
#2889 [13:15] <hippoman343> one sec notbrandx
#2890 [13:15] <notBrandX> Nah, if you google for hmod, you'll get a bajillion forum conversations about the old verison.
#2891 [13:16] <hippoman343> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1023&t=147182
#2892 [13:16] <hippoman343> thats for 1.3
#2893 [13:16] <Mash> ubuntu 10.10 doesn't like my x2 5600 setup :(
#2894 [13:16] <Mash> installer keeps just locking
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#2896 [13:17] <notBrandX> "last edited march 01 2011." Well, dude is going at it. Has a bug tracker too. Good for him/her.
#2897 [13:17] <notBrandX> <-- Ubuntu 10.10 user here.
#2898 [13:18] * Mash sighs dejectedly.
#2898 [13:18] <NicholAs> hey guys
#2899 [13:18] <NicholAs> still bugging?
#2900 [13:18] <NicholAs> i.e can't log in
#2901 [13:18] <NicholAs> I was out
#2902 [13:18] <notBrandX> Mash, you've deleted ~/.minecraft/bin/ and run 'java -jar ~/.minecraft/Minecraft.jar' in a terminal window, right?
#2903 [13:18] <Mash> Erm..
#2904 [13:18] <Mash> That's not what I meant.
#2905 [13:19] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2906 [13:19] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2907 [13:19] <Mash> I mean it was a windows 7 box I used for coding/compiling/hammer'ing; I'm now going through the installer for Ubuntu 10.10 and it's hardlocking
#2908 [13:19] <notBrandX> Oh. OH! This is an Ubuntu question, not a minecraft question.
#2909 [13:20] <raisin> ok Grey im back
#2910 [13:20] <NicholAs> So tl;dr version mc auth still f*cking up and we just have to wait it out hmmm?
#2911 [13:20] <Mash> Not really, it's just more of a; wtf y r this h4rdlocking?
#2912 [13:20] <NicholAs> :3
#2913 [13:20] <notBrandX> NicholAs: minecraft.net website is not the same as the auth server.
#2914 [13:21] <raisin> GreyVulpine, i made the underground
#2915 [13:21] <raisin> so can i make walls or something or ?
#2916 [13:21] <NicholAs> I just want to know when I'm able to log in ;p ha
#2917 [13:21] <notBrandX> Heh.
#2918 [13:21] <Mash> Er wait, auth server's being a hobo again?
#2919 [13:21] <Mash> Glad I haven't logged out.
#2920 [13:22] <notBrandX> On days like this, I try to get into my 'home' server, and idle as long as I can.
#2921 [13:22] <hippoman343> same
#2922 [13:22] <NicholAs> I only bought mc last night
#2923 [13:22] <NicholAs> raging
#2924 [13:22] <Mash> lol
#2925 [13:22] <raisin> ???????
#2926 [13:22] * notBrandX wishes there was a /usr/bin/curl command for pinging the minecraft auth server.
#2926 [13:22] <Mash> I've been playing it a week, just bought it like 3 days ago.
#2927 [13:22] <NicholAs> cool
#2928 [13:22] <NicholAs> It's a nice game
#2929 [13:22] <NicholAs> Makes a change from quake
#2930 [13:22] <xales> notBrandX: you could use curl to check the auth server
#2931 [13:23] <Mash> Notch deserved my $23 for as much time as I've spent with his works.
#2932 [13:23] <notBrandX> I'm playing on a vanilla server, no /give. It's damn satisfying to watch our little town expand.
#2933 [13:23] <raisin> or Xales do you know how you can make schematics in McEdit
#2934 [13:23] <xales> no
#2935 [13:23] <hippoman343> same notbrand
#2936 [13:23] <Mash> Vanilla servers have /give, wtf
#2937 [13:23] <hippoman343> not if u dont make ppl ops
#2938 [13:23] <notBrandX> Vanilla servers have /give, but not everyone is allowed to use it. :P
#2939 [13:23] <raisin> Can i join a server ?
#2940 [13:24] <raisin> though its not the right place to ask
#2941 [13:24] <hippoman343> r u a good builder?
#2942 [13:24] <hippoman343> for on #smp
#2943 [13:24] <raisin> Pretty decent
#2944 [13:24] <hippoman343> atand we will talk
#2945 [13:24] <raisin> i can show you my builds
#2946 [13:24] <hippoman343> ok
#2947 [13:24] <raisin> ill go there now
#2948 [13:24] <hippoman343> thats perfect
#2949 [13:25] <notBrandX> My group of friends have two worlds: one that is bleeding-edge bukkit, everyone can /give themselves, self-moving carts, no TNT nor fire allowed. The other is our frontier server: nothing you don't mine yourself, monsters on, PvP.
#2950 [13:25] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2951 [13:25] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2952 [13:26] <TheNytangel> minecraft needs a better website >.>
#2953 [13:26] <notBrandX> The 'frontier' server is vanilla with just a basic wrapper for auto-restart on crash, and tailing the logfile to listen for events.
#2954 [13:26] <Mash> self-propelling carts you say?!- link nao D:<
#2955 [13:26] <notBrandX> It's a bukkit thing. Look for "MinecartMania," server-side mod.
#2956 [13:27] <notBrandX> I've gotten pretty adept at building launchers/boosters on the frontier server, so I'm "meh" about MinecartMania now.
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#2958 [13:27] <Mash> GreyVulpine's seen a little of my work, I'm pretty good at it too.. But laziness prevails.
#2959 [13:27] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2960 [13:27] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2961 [13:27] * notBrandX [notBrandX@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#2962 [13:27] * Lauless [Lauless@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2963 [13:28] <Mash> TheNytangel, how many times you gonna !isdown minecraft.net? >,>
#2964 [13:28] <TheNytangel> until it isnt down
#2965 [13:28] <TheNytangel> :)
#2966 [13:28] <Lauless> is it down?
#2967 [13:28] <TheNytangel> yes.
#2968 [13:28] <Lauless> hehe
#2969 [13:28] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#2970 [13:28] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2971 [13:28] <Lauless> when will it be back up??
#2972 [13:28] <TheNytangel> when it is
#2973 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Soonâ„¢
#2974 [13:28] <Mash> But you've been doing it for hours, even when it was up and just the auth server was being.. idk, non-racial-slang-here.
#2975 [13:28] <Lauless> hehe
#2976 [13:28] <TheNytangel> lol
#2977 [13:28] * notBrandX [notBrandX@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#2978 [13:28] <TheNytangel> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#2979 [13:28] <TheNytangel> ?
#2980 [13:28] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2981 [13:29] <Lauless> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#2982 [13:29] <GreyBot> Lauless: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2983 [13:29] <Lauless> crap, it is down
#2984 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Easy with the bot usage..
#2985 [13:29] <Mash> Spam the bot, c'mon now.
#2986 [13:29] <TheNytangel> lol
#2987 [13:29] <Lauless> is the bot down?
#2988 [13:29] <Lauless> hehe
#2989 [13:29] <TheNytangel> no
#2990 [13:30] <TheNytangel> im hungry
#2991 [13:31] <Mash> notBrandX does ubuntu not like ahci or something?
#2992 [13:32] <TheNytangel> ASCII :D
#2993 [13:32] <Mash> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHCI
#2994 [13:32] <notBrandX> Dunno. My Dell Lattitude laptop seems to have AHCI.
#2995 [13:33] <TheNytangel> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheNytangel
#2996 [13:33] <notBrandX> I see /proc/irq/45/ahci
#2997 [13:33] <Mash> Maybe it's a bad burn? idk
#2998 [13:33] <Mash> running out of options here
#2999 [13:34] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3000 [13:34] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3001 [13:34] <notBrandX> Mash, there could be dozens if not hundreds of reasons why your install is locking up. I can't diagnose it from here.
#3002 [13:34] <TheNytangel> <.<
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#3004 [13:35] <Mash> You need to increase your lubix skills there notBrandX, a real nixnut can just blink and fix shit.
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#3006 [13:35] <notBrandX> No no, I'm only at the "things start working when he walks in the room" tier.
#3007 [13:35] <Mash> Ah.
#3008 [13:35] <Mash> Well, still better than myself.
#3009 [13:35] <Sami345> is the auth server down?
#3010 [13:35] <TacoV> yes
#3011 [13:36] <Mash> I'm at the /kicks it 'till it makes funny music--stage myself.
#3012 [13:36] <icy_miner> wtb a nixnut $2 fix my stufs
#3013 [13:36] <icy_miner> :P
#3014 [13:36] <Mash> oh yay, it booted!
#3015 [13:36] <Mash> Erm, but I have no mouse.
#3016 [13:36] <Mash> Damn GUI installations.
#3017 [13:36] <notBrandX> You can tab around.
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#3019 [13:36] <gieRz> THE FUCKS GOING ON
#3020 [13:37] <Mash> I vote ban.
#3021 [13:37] <notBrandX> NO. THERE ARE NO FUCKS GOING ON. WE ARE FUCKLESS.
#3022 [13:37] <icy_miner> so why cant i rm my plugs n files :P
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#3024 [13:37] <notBrandX> icy_miner, What's it say when you try?
#3025 [13:37] <icy_miner> or rmdir
#3026 [13:38] <icy_miner> lemme try again as patience is waining
#3027 [13:38] <gieRz> goddamnit 503 for christs sake burn in hell auth serv
#3028 [13:38] <notBrandX> No! if the auth serv burns in hell, we'll never get it back!
#3029 [13:38] <Mash> rm -rf ~
#3030 [13:38] <Mash> gogo do it ;o
#3031 [13:38] <chelios> i can't connect to minecraft, what's happen?
#3032 [13:38] <icy_miner> lol no such file exists
#3033 [13:38] <icy_miner> im gona cry
#3034 [13:38] <TacoV> can't connect for a few hours and all hell breaks loose... come on people
#3035 [13:38] <icy_miner> !
#3036 [13:38] <Mash> er.. ~/ *, my bad.
#3037 [13:38] <notBrandX> chelios: someone set us up the bomb.
#3038 [13:39] <notBrandX> (srsly, auth servers are overloaded again.)
#3039 [13:39] <icy_miner> ls list them all still there
#3040 [13:39] <chelios> but some of my mates are connected
#3041 [13:39] <notBrandX> icy_miner: I think you'll have to show us the command you're typing in.
#3042 [13:39] <Mash> notBrandX, Have they ported MPC to linux yet/
#3043 [13:39] <gieRz> theres no entry on notchs twitter or tumblr maybe hes DEAD
#3044 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> The Mojang team is at GDC
#3045 [13:40] <icy_miner> rm AnjoSecurity
#3046 [13:40] * notBrandX hits gieRz with a rolled-up newspaper.
#3046 [13:40] <icy_miner> as the user i made it with
#3047 [13:40] <Mash> Oh, and notBrandX, ext4 > jfs?
#3048 [13:41] * TacoV [TacoV@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#3049 [13:41] <notBrandX> I haven't had a chance to deploy jfs. Every site I'm at, they're "NOOO! DUNT YOOS NETHING OTHER DEN EXT2!"
#3050 [13:41] <icy_miner> basically i tried to use bukkit for the groups manager but i canot for the life of me do what needs to be done so im just gona bin it
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#3052 [13:41] <notBrandX> icy_miner: what do you get when you try '/bin/ls -ld AnjoSecurity' ?
#3053 [13:42] <Mash> Wow, do you have any idea how retarded you just made your fellow siters seem? >,>
#3054 [13:42] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3055 [13:42] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3056 [13:42] <TheNytangel> lol
#3057 [13:42] <icy_miner> cannot access AnjoSecurity: No such file or directory
#3058 [13:42] <notBrandX> By "site" I mean worksite. And yeah, if they had more brains, they wouldn't be giving me the money.
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#3060 [13:42] <icy_miner> ls says its there -_-*
#3061 [13:42] <TheNytangel> somebody call notch
#3062 [13:42] <Mash> This is true- long live the retards.
#3063 [13:43] <notBrandX> icy_miner: sounds like there's whitespace in the folder name or some junk.
#3064 [13:43] <notBrandX> Try this: '/bin/rm -r Anjo' and then hit the TAB key before the ENTER key.
#3065 [13:43] <icy_miner> k
#3066 [13:44] <Smorfy> It seems to be overloaded from too many userers. i could connect 20 min before. And i never will quit^^.
#3067 [13:44] <icy_miner> crist sake im about to re install os
#3068 [13:44] <Mash> Er.. I'm a dumbass.
#3069 [13:45] <Sami345> icy_miner, why?
#3070 [13:45] <Mash> I'm installing ubuntu 386 on an x2-5600
#3071 [13:45] <ArmEagle> and now minecraft.net gives 503s.. one day it will all work
#3072 [13:45] <notBrandX> icy_miner : the TAB key didn't complete the filename?
#3073 [13:45] <icy_miner> i had my serv runing fine and smooth but i had to go try messing with a bukkit - a bukkit of lava
#3074 [13:45] <icy_miner> no
#3075 [13:46] <notBrandX> Hrm. But you say 'ls' says the folder is there.
#3076 [13:46] <Mash> lol I see what you did there.
#3077 [13:46] <TheNytangel> somebody call notch
#3078 [13:46] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3079 [13:46] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3080 [13:46] <TheNytangel> 1st thing i said was an accident :)
#3081 [13:46] <Sami345> !isdown www.com
#3082 [13:46] <GreyBot> Sami345: It's just you. http://www.com is up.
#3083 [13:46] <TheNytangel> lol
#3084 [13:46] <notBrandX> Mash, you remember the day when a service would stop for an hour on the weekend, and nobody called for the CEO's head on a pike? man, those were the days.
#3085 [13:47] <Sami345> www.com is actually just www.www.com
#3086 [13:47] <notBrandX> Back before the patience famine of '04.
#3087 [13:47] <notBrandX> icy_miner: Could you paste me the output from this command? _ echo $(/bin/ls -F)|sed 's/ /,/g' _
#3088 [13:47] <Mash> Dude, that was like 1994, how old are you? >,>
#3089 [13:47] <icy_miner> sure
#3090 [13:48] <notBrandX> Back in 1994 we were complaining about September, and "eternal September" when AOL finally got internet. Oh, and the McElwaithe MAKE MONEY FAST messages.
#3091 [13:48] <icy_miner> lol command not found
#3092 [13:48] <ArmEagle> I guess .net can't handle the load now login is up :)
#3093 [13:48] <notBrandX> without the _ marks, icy_miner.
#3094 [13:49] <notBrandX> and if the output is large, you should send me a /msg of the output. Don't want to flood the chatroom.
#3095 [13:49] <Mash> .. Dude, in '94 i was supergluing my teachers ass to her chair in 7th grade.
#3096 [13:50] <icy_miner> small
#3097 [13:50] <icy_miner> mine_server/,temp/
#3098 [13:50] <notBrandX> Yeah, okay, so there is no AnjoSecurity folder to delete. That's why 'rm' wasn't working.
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#3100 [13:50] <notBrandX> I dunno what you were doing when you said 'ls' shows the folder.
#3101 [13:51] <midigi> got in
#3102 [13:51] <icy_miner> because it does fella
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#3104 [13:51] <notBrandX> ... except you just used /bin/ls to list the files in the current directory, and 'sed' to put them all on one line, and you just pasted me that line.
#3105 [13:52] <icy_miner> im going to snip this so you can see with your own eyes man
#3106 [13:54] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3107 [13:54] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3108 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#3109 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Really TheNytangel..
#3110 [13:54] <TheNytangel> yes
#3111 [13:54] <TheNytangel> it isnt up :P
#3112 [13:55] <notBrandX> Can we all chip in and get Nytangel a daemon that does an http ping, and a popup on his/her desktop?
#3113 [13:56] <Mash> I don't get the point of alt-tabbing into irc and typing that out. Soo much easier to just press F5 in your browser every couple of minutes.
#3114 [13:57] <Morrolan> Or using a site like downforeveryoneorjustme.com
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#3116 [13:57] <ArmEagle> sure.. add even more load to the server :P
#3117 [13:57] <Morrolan> Yes :D
#3118 [13:57] <ArmEagle> though it's actually the call from .net to the login/auth server (i think) that is failing
#3119 [13:58] <ArmEagle> weird how the gameservers are still connecting to minecraft.net when a player logs in
#3120 [14:00] <Morrolan> Well, if the authentication is done by the server then why shouldn't they try to connect to minecraft.net? Or is the authentication done by the clinet?
#3121 [14:01] <TheNytangel> clinet.. lol
#3122 [14:01] <Morrolan> client* :p
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#3124 [14:03] <icy_miner> cd /home
#3125 [14:03] <icy_miner> rofl wrong window :P
#3126 [14:04] <Sami345> minecraft.net gave me [show] java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#3127 [14:04] <Morrolan> minecraft.net is having issues at the moment.
#3128 [14:04] <Morrolan> Please try again later. And now for some music...
#3129 [14:05] <Essentials0690> Can you guys help me with a server problem, or where should i ask?
#3130 [14:05] <Morrolan> Sure, just ask.
#3131 [14:05] <Morrolan> If your question doesn't belong here we can always redirect you. :)
#3132 [14:06] <Jayman> Ok, i got a problem with my bukkit server... i installed essntials wrote me into ops.txt
#3133 [14:06] <Jayman> but i cant type in any command
#3134 [14:06] <Jayman> if i type a command, theres no reaction
#3135 [14:07] <Jayman> nothing... and in the console is written this:
#3136 [14:07] <xales> Jayman: ask #bukkit
#3137 [14:07] <Jayman> ok thanks
#3138 [14:07] <Morrolan> Or you could try your luck at #essentials
#3139 [14:08] <Jayman> i got morrolan buit i think not essentials is the problem
#3140 [14:08] <Morrolan> Ah, ok.
#3141 [14:08] <Jayman> i tried a lot of plugins... and none of them gave a reaction
#3142 [14:08] <Jayman> thanks guys :)
#3143 [14:08] <Morrolan> Yea, then #bukkit is the better place.
#3144 [14:08] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#3145 [14:10] <Morrolan> Oh, #bukkit might not have been the ideal channel to redirect him, there's a quarrel about the difference between VPS and VDS going on there. ^^
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#3148 [14:12] <notBrandX> I wish the #bukkit people would be quieter. I can hear them through the walls. I keep banging the channel partitions with my broom, but they just don't settle down.
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#3150 [14:13] <hippoman343> minecraft still down?
#3151 [14:13] <Morrolan> Yes.
#3152 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3153 [14:13] <hippoman343> Grr
#3154 [14:13] <hippoman343> Notch needs to spend more money on them
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#3156 [14:15] <sesopenko> I have 3 friends who bought minecraft last night, planning to start playing on my new server today. grrr
#3157 [14:15] <Jaska> hippoman343 more servers don't always mean more reliability ;)
#3158 [14:16] <hippoman343> i dont mean more. i mean better ;)
#3159 [14:16] <sesopenko> I have verify names off for my server, is there a way for people to connect without logging into minecraft.net?
#3160 [14:17] <sesopenko> I don't think he needs better servers, he needs better configured servers. it's a 503 error, not a timeout or the likes.
#3161 [14:17] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> are the guys still at GDC?
#3162 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3163 [14:17] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> last downtime was because they were on an airplane i think
#3164 [14:17] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> so nobody could fix shit
#3165 [14:18] <ArmEagle> no, Notch needs to hire someone who knows how this stuff works :)
#3166 [14:18] <ArmEagle> but i think he did
#3167 [14:18] <ArmEagle> we'll see..
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#3169 [14:21] <Onik> Hey, im just about to buy Minecraft. But im not sure about one thing. Will my login name also be my sceen name?
#3170 [14:21] <Morrolan> Yes.
#3171 [14:21] <Morrolan> The one you choose when buying the game will be your nickname as well.
#3172 [14:21] <Onik> Okay thanks. And there will be no option to change the name?
#3173 [14:22] <Morrolan> No.
#3174 [14:22] <Morrolan> Atleast not yet. There might be an option in the future, but I don't know
#3175 [14:22] <Onik> Okay, thanks a lot.
#3176 [14:22] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
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#3182 [14:30] <sesopenko> so is there a way to log into a private minecraft game server when minecraft.net is down?
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#3184 [14:30] <sesopenko> it used to just time out and let you play after a while, now it forces a log in in order to play multiplayer
#3185 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> sesopenko - Sorry, nope.
#3186 [14:30] <sesopenko> dang ok
#3187 [14:31] <sesopenko> thanks
#3188 [14:31] <Autovirus> Hey
#3189 [14:31] <Autovirus> Minecraft.net is down=?
#3190 [14:31] <hippoman343> i was so stupid
#3191 [14:31] <Autovirus> i cant connect to any servers
#3192 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes Autovirus
#3193 [14:31] <Autovirus> fuck me.
#3194 [14:31] <hippoman343> i logged out just as mc went down
#3195 [14:31] <Autovirus> so because the website is down, i cant connect to any servers?
#3196 [14:31] <Morrolan> Nah, the authentication server is down.
#3197 [14:32] <Autovirus> So i can play online? meg
#3198 [14:32] <Autovirus> meh*
#3199 [14:32] <Morrolan> And the website as well, but it's not really releated.
#3200 [14:32] <Autovirus> hmmk
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#3202 [14:32] <Autovirus> Is there any fix or just another cause of waitiing?
#3203 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Just be patient.
#3204 [14:32] <Autovirus> SCREW ME
#3205 [14:32] <Autovirus> IM ADDICTED
#3206 [14:33] <Autovirus> bye-bye<3 :)
#3207 [14:33] <Autovirus> i will EAT u <3
#3208 [14:33] <Autovirus> bb
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#3210 [14:33] <Decree> hey
#3211 [14:33] <Decree> xales or DopeGhoti
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#3213 [14:33] <xales> hi
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#3216 [14:33] <Decree> hi xales
#3217 [14:34] <Decree> i heard you have some expertise in helping with mac issues?
#3218 [14:34] <Decree> i have an issue that I know some other people have with mac beta 1.3_01 on SMP
#3219 [14:34] <Decree> basically after a short amount of time of playing
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#3222 [14:35] <Decree> the mac computer completely freezes for either 5 or 10 seconds, and then minecraft crashes and quits and the computer is back to normal
#3223 [14:35] <Nesky> combien de temps met le jeu pour que l'on sois prenium ?
#3224 [14:35] <Decree> this happens almost every 5 mins
#3225 [14:35] <Decree> i have a console report for when this does happen
#3226 [14:35] <Decree> if you would like to see
#3227 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> mollstam just posted
#3228 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> "I think there's an equation to be made involving time remaining to flight and probability of server downtime."
#3229 [14:36] <Decree> btw im on snow leopard
#3230 [14:36] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> Nesky: le site est temporairement down
#3231 [14:36] <hippoman343> minecraft is up
#3232 [14:36] <hippoman343> hurry
#3233 [14:36] <Nesky> JeepersCreepersThoseThings ok il sera remie en reoute se soir ?
#3234 [14:36] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> sa dois pas etre long, aussitot que sa reviens sa doit pas etre long
#3235 [14:36] <hippoman343> join servers
#3236 [14:37] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> sa dois, l'equippe sont sur un avion, ils retournent d'un conference aux etats unis
#3237 [14:37] <Nesky> ok tu es admin ?
#3238 [14:38] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> non
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#3240 [14:38] <Nesky> ca va deja j'ai acheté le jeu avant que le site down
#3241 [14:38] <Nesky> comment tu sais alors ? ^^
#3242 [14:38] <sesopenko> server's up
#3243 [14:38] <sesopenko> for now at least
#3244 [14:38] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> tous le monde n'en parle :P
#3245 [14:38] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> pi ca dlaire d'etre regler!
#3246 [14:38] <sesopenko> yeap server's up
#3247 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> Hey xales, have you seen this yet? http://twitter.com/danfrisk
#3248 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> xales - Minecrafters on OS X: Minecraft.app defaults to OpenGL *off*. Fix it like this: http://min.us/ljhyQc Way faster! #Minecraft
#3249 [14:41] <Nesky> toujours pas prenium =x
#3250 [14:41] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#3251 [14:41] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3252 [14:41] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> 1 sec je vais demander en anglais :P
#3253 [14:42] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> hey guys, Nesky bought the game a little bit before downtime, how long should it take for his purchase to go through?
#3254 [14:42] <Decree> xales or DopeGhoti ?
#3255 [14:43] <Morrolan> Jeepers: Depends on how long the server is down, really.
#3256 [14:43] <Morrolan> I'd say give it a day or two after the server is up. At most.
#3257 [14:43] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> ok
#3258 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> JeepersCreepersThoseThings - It can usually take 4-5 hours, roughly
#3259 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes, it can take up to a day or two if you use the DIBs system
#3260 [14:45] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> Nesky: vu qu`il y a eu du downtime, c`est possible que ca va prendre plus de temps. 4-5 heures en temps normal, mais vu qu'ils ont eu des problemes... des fois ca peut prendre une journee ou deux si ta utiliser le system DIBs pour payer.
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#3262 [14:46] <EmpiresBane> hm... 2 identical notices
#3263 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3264 [14:46] <EmpiresBane> -M- Auth servers are currently down. Please do not come here just to complain. There is no ETA until they are fixed
#3265 [14:46] <EmpiresBane> got that twice
#3266 [14:47] <EmpiresBane> ah, one's from #minecraft, i believe
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#3269 [14:50] <ngc0202> hey
#3270 [14:50] <ngc0202> how do I wire a redstone torch
#3271 [14:50] <ngc0202> to I lever
#3272 [14:50] <ngc0202> without any dust
#3273 [14:51] <ngc0202> a*
#3274 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3275 [14:51] <ngc0202> Well I have a room with a lever on it
#3276 [14:51] <ngc0202> and on the other side of the block with the lever I have a redstone torch
#3277 [14:51] <ngc0202> I thought that the lever would control the torch...
#3278 [14:51] <ngc0202> What do I have to do instead
#3279 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> That.. should work
#3280 [14:53] <ngc0202> *facepalm*
#3281 [14:53] <ngc0202> They were both one block from the left\
#3282 [14:54] <ngc0202> but looking opposite ways they are different blocks
#3283 [14:54] <ngc0202> ug
#3284 [14:54] <ngc0202> This is why sleep is important kids!
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#3287 [14:54] <ngc0202> I was so confused too xD
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#3291 [14:58] <Mash> zomfg *complain* *complain* *complain*
#3292 [14:59] <Mash> not about the auth servers, but because for the first time -ever- my box just hardlocked.
#3293 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> Lies!
#3294 [14:59] <Mash> right in the middle of burning ubuntu 10.10 x64 lol
#3295 [14:59] <Mash> I blame nero.
#3296 [15:00] <Mash> GreyVulpine, srsly, first time this build has hardlocked, before this I had like 3½ months uptime.
#3297 [15:00] <Mash> -1 this
#3298 [15:00] <Mash> nvm, im too tired to read my own msgs.
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#3300 [15:02] <Mash> And I was logged into MineCraft too, damnit.
#3301 [15:02] <Nesky> toujours pas prenium :'(
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#3304 [15:04] <Mash> OMG
#3305 [15:04] <Mash> I logged in again?!
#3306 [15:04] <Mash> I thought the servers will still wonky?
#3307 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> They were up for a bit there
#3308 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Then down.. and now, apparently up again
#3309 [15:04] <Mash> I logged in about 1/10th of a second before I said OMG.
#3310 [15:05] <Mash> And now down again.
#3311 [15:05] <Mash> Yay, nero didn't hardlock my shit again.
#3312 [15:06] <Mash> notBrandX leave?
#3313 [15:07] <Mash> !isdown minecraft.net
#3314 [15:07] <GreyBot> Mash: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
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#3316 [15:08] <LiamJ> !isdown minecraft.net
#3317 [15:08] <GreyBot> LiamJ: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3318 [15:10] <Kealper> .........
#3319 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Keaaaallllper
#3320 [15:10] <Kealper> .set motd Minecraft.net is down! Stop using the !isdown command already!
#3321 [15:10] * GreyVulpine hides behind kealper
#3321 [15:11] <Kealper> rawr?
#3322 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Make the mean people stop!
#3323 [15:11] <Kealper> o.o
#3324 [15:11] <Mash> You know..
#3325 [15:12] <Mash> That speaks WORLDS to the reputation of Minecraft's servers.
#3326 [15:12] <Mash> http://www.isminecraftdown.net
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#3328 [15:12] <Mash> wtf
#3329 [15:12] <boborama> I'm playing with a new MC server (as the auth servers are offline) at home - can anyone connect to 77.102.232.206 and see if I've managed to open the right ports.
#3330 [15:12] <Mash> it works now D:<
#3331 [15:12] <Kealper> Mash: that site lies
#3332 [15:12] <Mash> HAH
#3333 [15:12] <Mash> logged in, all seems to be working
#3334 [15:12] <Mash> this exact instant anyway
#3335 [15:14] <Nesky> TOUJOURS PAS PRENIUM +X
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#3337 [15:17] <Mash> http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/57xSh2/www.eurogamer.net/videos/mario-trailer-shows-gta-mushroom-kingdom
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#3339 [15:21] <Mash> This is purely for awesome giggle-worthy entertainment.. Since we're all nerdynerds in here.
#3340 [15:21] <Mash> http://bit.ly/9HghMF
#3341 [15:22] <Mash> Back when rap was cool.
#3342 [15:23] <BarryCarlyon> If only youtube would work....flash is being stupid.
#3343 [15:24] <Mash> That's gotta be one of the best youtube vids I've ever stumbled on.
#3344 [15:32] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> Nesky: :( faut etre patient des fois lol
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#3346 [15:37] <lyude> Hey guys
#3347 [15:38] <lyude> Errr
#3348 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3349 [15:38] <lyude> I need your opinion on something
#3350 [15:38] <lyude> I'm getitng a new rig for hosting
#3351 [15:38] <lyude> I'm the guy who asked about and crap, I need to know if this CPU could handle server software with about 10-20 players
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#3353 [15:38] <lyude> AMD Phenom X4 2.2GHz Model 9500
#3354 [15:39] <BarryCarlyon> Its all about ram and nice hard discs really.
#3355 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> ^
#3356 [15:39] <BarryCarlyon> Like any server deamon.
#3357 [15:39] <lyude> It is?
#3358 [15:39] <lyude> Well we have 8 GB of ram
#3359 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Plus, right now, minecraft doesn't take advantage of multiple cores
#3360 [15:40] <lyude> I know, thats why I asked
#3361 [15:40] <lyude> I was thinking you'd need a high clock
#3362 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> But for hosting minecraft, you look at RAM and the speed of your HDD
#3363 [15:40] <LiamJ> !isdown minecraft.net
#3364 [15:40] <GreyBot> LiamJ: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#3365 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> whether you're planning on hosting it entirely off of RAM, or you're considering an SSD, or just running it plain off a regular platter HDD
#3366 [15:41] <lyude> I'm thinking, if hard drive speed is really a problem
#3367 [15:41] <lyude> I can get a seperate velociraptor HDD for it
#3368 [15:41] <lyude> 10200 RPM
#3369 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> With the amount of I/O minecraft does, every little bit counts
#3370 [15:41] <BarryCarlyon> Minecraft is better on drives now we changed file format. But the I/O seek times can be a bitch sometimes.
#3371 [15:42] <BarryCarlyon> As long as your not running on windows and use a sensible drive format to avoid fragmentation too.
#3372 [15:43] <lyude> Yeah
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#3374 [15:43] <lyude> I use arch linux
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#3376 [15:43] <BarryCarlyon> woot.
#3377 [15:45] <lyude> So
#3378 [15:45] <lyude> Raptor hard drives should be fine with 8 GB and a AMD Phenom
#3379 [15:45] <lyude> Also, is network speed every much of a problem?
#3380 [15:46] <xales> yes, very much
#3381 [15:48] <lyude> I have a normal internet connection
#3382 [15:48] <EmpiresBane> i have returned
#3383 [15:48] <xales> define "normal"
#3384 [15:49] <xales> (if you are looking to host 15+ people, a residential grade connection will not cut it)
#3385 [15:49] * VoxelHead is back
#3385 [15:49] <xales> wb VoxelHead
#3386 [15:50] <VoxelHead> Re
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#3388 [15:50] <VoxelHead> Good Morning hanski, i think
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#3390 [15:50] <Hanski> Hi guys! I just bought the game but I can't log in. The error message I get is "user not premium". Any ideas?
#3391 [15:51] <xales> Hanski: how long ago is "just"?
#3392 [15:51] <lyude> Crap
#3393 [15:51] <Hanski> mm
#3394 [15:51] <Hanski> 1-2hours ago
#3395 [15:51] <xales> you might have to wait a bit longer
#3396 [15:51] <xales> there was just some downtime, so it might take a short while to process the payment
#3397 [15:51] <Hanski> My friend bought it a bit earlier
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#3400 [15:52] <Hanski> Ah okay
#3401 [15:52] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> was it with the same payment method?
#3402 [15:52] <Hanski> Yes
#3403 [15:52] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> different payment methods sometimes take different times to process
#3404 [15:52] <Hanski> Any ideas how long it may take?
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#3406 [15:52] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> i heard 4-5 hours, but it might be more due to the downtime
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#3408 [15:53] <Hanski> damn
#3409 [15:53] <Jaglag> Hi jemand deutsches hier?
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#3411 [15:53] <VoxelHead> Wilkommen ItsCriminal.
#3412 [15:53] <ItsCriminal> hi
#3413 [15:53] <Hanski> But it's so odd that my friend didn't have any problems
#3414 [15:53] <Hanski> Oh well
#3415 [15:53] <JeepersCreepersThoseThings> how much earlier did he buy it?
#3416 [15:54] <ItsCriminal> even in german VoxelHead :D
#3417 [15:54] <Hanski> an hour or so
#3418 [15:54] <Hanski> or less than an hour
#3419 [15:54] <xales> Hanski: it depends on several factors - wait 4 or 5 hours, it should let you log in by then
#3420 [15:54] <xales> if not, send an email to payment@mojang.com and include when you bought it, the username, and so on
#3421 [15:54] <Jaglag> hi ppl im new too mc and try to setup some mods hq fly etc and i tried about 4-5hours and it dont work
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#3423 [15:55] <Jaglag> maybe could someone help me pls over teamviewer?
#3424 [15:55] <Hanski> Okay, thanks!
#3425 [15:55] <xales> ??> Jaglag mods
#3426 [15:55] <austin> Hey guys, I have a problem in minecraft. Could someone help me or tell me if @Notch knows about this bug?
#3427 [15:55] <VoxelHead> Jaglag: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3428 [15:55] <VoxelHead> Jaglag: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3429 [15:55] <xales> austin: what, specifically?
#3430 [15:56] <Jaglag> k thx
#3431 [15:56] <austin> When I use my bed in my WELL lit house, a random type of monster/mob appears. Mostly hostile and usually kills me righty after I get into bed
#3432 [15:56] <xales> yes, that's known. I'm not sure if it's even a bug
#3433 [15:56] <austin> Okay thanks!
#3434 [15:56] <xales> move the bed away from walls, I believe fixes that
#3435 [15:57] <austin> Thanks for the help, I will go do that!
#3436 [15:57] <TheNytangel> has anyone here use the movecraft mod?
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#3438 [15:58] <Coll> oh boy
#3439 [15:58] <Coll> what happened to the servers?
#3440 [15:58] <TheNytangel> nothing.?
#3441 [15:58] <Coll> well they tend to not go down for nothing
#3442 [15:58] <lyude> crap
#3443 [15:58] <lyude> Imma need better internet I guess D:
#3444 [15:59] <austin> xales, that fixed my problem so far... Thanks!
#3445 [15:59] <xales> no problem
#3446 [16:00] <Coll> hmm
#3447 [16:01] <Coll> odd
#3448 [16:01] <Coll> So then the servers are not down?
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#3450 [16:03] <VoxelHead> ieks, internet_
#3451 [16:03] <Internet_> hi
#3452 [16:04] <Internet_> how to install textures in minecraft ?
#3453 [16:04] <Internet_> i copied the files
#3454 [16:04] <Internet_> but i cant select new texture
#3455 [16:04] <Internet_> :(
#3456 [16:04] * VoxelHead tickles internet_
#3456 [16:04] <TheNytangel> C:\Users\<User>\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\textures
#3457 [16:04] <TheNytangel> or something around that
#3458 [16:06] <Internet_> yes
#3459 [16:06] <Internet_> i copied
#3460 [16:06] <Internet_> but it dont work
#3461 [16:07] <TheNytangel> replace <user> with your user >.>
#3462 [16:07] <Internet_> http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/moderncraft/ its this
#3463 [16:07] <TheNytangel> *sigh*
#3464 [16:08] <TheNytangel> C:\Users\<User>\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\texturepacks
#3465 [16:08] <TheNytangel> save it there
#3466 [16:08] <Internet_> yes
#3467 [16:08] <Internet_> i saved it
#3468 [16:08] <Internet_> but its not working
#3469 [16:08] <TheNytangel> replace <User>, dip
#3470 [16:11] <Internet_> its dont work with the replaves
#3471 [16:12] <Internet_> i will try another texture
#3472 [16:14] <TheNytangel> VoxelHead, you cant fix special people
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#3474 [16:15] <xales> Voxel, decloak
#3475 [16:15] * VoxelHead shifts back into view
#3475 [16:15] <Zemedelphos> Internet_ is it a .zip?
#3476 [16:15] <Zemedelphos> because a .rar won't work.
#3477 [16:15] <JoeBlow> Hi! everyone.
#3478 [16:16] <Zemedelphos> Hi.
#3479 [16:16] <JoeBlow> I have a quick question about the minecraft server
#3480 [16:16] <Zemedelphos> Ask away
#3481 [16:16] <Internet_> oh
#3482 [16:16] <Internet_> i copied unpacked
#3483 [16:16] <JoeBlow> Is it possible to send command to the server from the outside of it?
#3484 [16:16] <Zemedelphos> Heheh. Yeah, you have to put a .zip in there for it to work.
#3485 [16:16] <xales> JoeBlow: yes
#3486 [16:16] <Internet_> oh
#3487 [16:16] <Internet_> thanks
#3488 [16:16] <Internet_> my bad
#3489 [16:17] <xales> if you are running it properly, on a Linux box using screen, then `man screen` will give you all you need to know
#3490 [16:17] <Zemedelphos> No big.
#3491 [16:17] <JoeBlow> Good :-) now I need to know how !!
#3492 [16:17] <ItsCriminal> how can kill a process cos kill pidnumber wont work ^^
#3493 [16:17] <JoeBlow> One thing I didn't tell is that it run without console ...
#3494 [16:18] <Zemedelphos> ctrl+alt+del, processes, end process?
#3495 [16:18] <ItsCriminal> haha that would be easy
#3496 [16:18] <ItsCriminal> but im using unix
#3497 [16:18] <VoxelHead> Take me to the meat.
#3498 [16:18] <Internet_> thanks guys
#3499 [16:18] <Zemedelphos> Ah
#3500 [16:18] <VoxelHead> thanks guys... thuys
#3501 [16:18] <xales> JoeBlow: On Windows, or Linux?
#3502 [16:18] <Internet_> youre the best
#3503 [16:18] <Internet_> or girls
#3504 [16:18] <JoeBlow> linux (without screen)
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#3506 [16:19] <ItsCriminal> i know how it works but the thing is i do it an nothing happens with kill 13389
#3507 [16:19] <ItsCriminal> with user it wont stop and with root not ^^
#3508 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: try kill -9
#3509 [16:21] <ItsCriminal> so kill -9 pidnumber?
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#3511 [16:22] <VoxelHead> wilkommen lachie244
#3512 [16:22] <xales> JoeBlow: you should run it with screen to achieve what you desire
#3513 [16:22] <ItsCriminal> VoxelHead if it should be Willkommen (german) you need on l more
#3514 [16:22] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#3515 [16:22] <VoxelHead> =D
#3516 [16:23] <JoeBlow> xales: That mean the console will always open in that screen session !?
#3517 [16:23] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#3518 [16:23] <ItsCriminal> DopeGhoti thanks alot it worked out
#3519 [16:23] <ItsCriminal> you saved my life :D
#3520 [16:23] <xales> JoeBlow: Yes. Consult `man screen` for how it works
#3521 [16:23] <Hanski> What's wrong with the pages
#3522 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> Dammit
#3523 [16:24] <Hanski> page*
#3524 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> I still need to finish that `screen` guide
#3525 [16:24] <JoeBlow> xales: Ok, thanks for the info. I'll figure from there.
#3526 [16:25] <EmpiresBane> how long does it take a tree to grow?
#3527 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: don't start with `kill -9` though; try a regular `kill` first and wait at least 90 seconds
#3528 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> EmpiresBane: anywehre from a couple seconds to _months_
#3529 [16:25] <EmpiresBane> hrm....
#3530 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> saplings have a half-life, and when they 'decay', they become trees
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#3532 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> (or, use bonemeal to fertilize for instant wood)
#3533 [16:25] <EmpiresBane> i have never gotten a tree to grow
#3534 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> (that sounded wrong)
#3535 [16:25] <VoxelHead> dootie!
#3536 [16:25] <ItsCriminal> DopeGhoti that was the problem i made it like with the normal kill and after good 10min i tried it again so still no stop of it then i tried yours and it worked :D
#3537 [16:26] <ItsCriminal> i know what you mean better try kill first :D
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#3540 [16:29] <VoxelHead> Wasn't expecting needhelp01!
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#3542 [16:29] <needhelp01> smartass
#3543 [16:29] <needhelp01> i bought a gift code
#3544 [16:29] <needhelp01> recieved no email
#3545 [16:29] <needhelp01> nothing new on profile
#3546 [16:29] * VoxelHead is away: playing a game
#3546 [16:29] <needhelp01> and was charged
#3547 [16:29] <needhelp01> what do
#3548 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> needhelp01: did you buy with a CC or via PayPal?
#3549 [16:30] <needhelp01> cc
#3550 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> How long ago?
#3551 [16:30] <needhelp01> my cc website shows a charge for it
#3552 [16:30] <needhelp01> 10-15 minutes ago
#3553 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> CC transactions can take as long as a day to process
#3554 [16:30] <needhelp01> funny because it shows it was charged already
#3555 [16:31] <needhelp01> thus meaning it went through
#3556 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> The CC merchant services need to get your money, send it to Mojang, and _then_ Nojang activates your account/code
#3557 [16:31] <needhelp01> so then its on minecrafts side
#3558 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> no, it's on the CC merchant's side. There are three sides.
#3559 [16:31] <icy_miner> patience young jedi
#3560 [16:31] <icy_miner> tbh
#3561 [16:31] <needhelp01> this is why this strikes me odd
#3562 [16:31] <needhelp01> i buy it for myself
#3563 [16:31] <needhelp01> its instant
#3564 [16:31] <needhelp01> i buy a code
#3565 [16:32] <needhelp01> it takes longer
#3566 [16:32] <icy_miner> ^ i did this other day took about 5-10 mins honestly
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#3568 [16:32] <needhelp01> its been longer than that
#3569 [16:32] <icy_miner> hmm ?? noidea
#3570 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> Give it a few more hours, then email payment@mojang.com
#3571 [16:33] <needhelp01> hours?
#3572 [16:33] <xales> hours.
#3573 [16:33] <needhelp01> really?
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#3575 [16:33] <TheNytangel> hours.
#3576 [16:33] <needhelp01> in today's world it takes hours for an instance
#3577 [16:33] <Mjiig> needhelp01: there a a ton of factors that could have changed between you buying now and you buying then
#3578 [16:33] <needhelp01> wow
#3579 [16:33] <needhelp01> this sucks
#3580 [16:33] <needhelp01> ill just call my bank and cancel
#3581 [16:33] <needhelp01> its really not worth it
#3582 [16:33] <xales> that's rather childish
#3583 [16:33] <icy_miner> lol rage much chill and have patience
#3584 [16:33] <xales> "I didn't get it in 10 minutes"
#3585 [16:33] <needhelp01> they'll never come out with the full version
#3586 [16:33] <needhelp01> i said 165
#3587 [16:34] <needhelp01> 15*
#3588 [16:34] <needhelp01> try reading
#3589 [16:34] <needhelp01> im out
#3590 [16:34] <TheNytangel> lol
#3591 [16:34] <xales> derp derp
#3592 [16:34] <icy_miner> he mad
#3593 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> ..wow.
#3594 [16:34] <TheNytangel> hes a kid
#3595 [16:34] <icy_miner> u mad ?
#3596 [16:34] <icy_miner> he mad
#3597 [16:34] <icy_miner> :D
#3598 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> I wonder if he'll be able to convinve his mom to cancel the order.
#3599 [16:34] <lyude> Guys, could I get an approximation of the upload rate you'd need for a big server
#3600 [16:34] <icy_miner> sorry could not resist that pun .
#3601 [16:34] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, probably
#3602 [16:34] <TheNytangel> not
#3603 [16:35] <TheNytangel> im sure he doesnt even own a bank
#3604 [16:36] <xales> lyude: how big?
#3605 [16:36] <lyude> Maybe 20 players at max
#3606 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> As hot-headed as ey was, I sure hope ey doesn't own a bank!
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#3608 [16:36] <lyude> Currently, we have arfound 10 people usually
#3609 [16:36] <xales> I wouldn't settle for less than 5-10 mbit upstream
#3610 [16:38] <lyude> I don't know where trhe bottleneck in my server is right now
#3611 [16:38] <lyude> I thought it was the system itself
#3612 [16:38] <lyude> But it might be the interblag
#3613 [16:38] <lyude> I can monitor the upstream of everything though, luckily
#3614 [16:38] <lyude> Handy little dd-wrt and top/iotop/iftop
#3615 [16:39] <lyude> But I was convinced it was the system until now
#3616 [16:39] <lyude> Although there seems to be no lag, and the CPU is maxed out
#3617 [16:40] <xales> 2.2GHz is probably not enough
#3618 [16:40] <lyude> 3+ GHz?
#3619 [16:40] <xales> probably
#3620 [16:40] <lyude> Alright
#3621 [16:42] <xales> (keep in mind Minecraft has little to no capability to take advantage of multi-processor or multi-core machines)
#3622 [16:42] <lyude> I know :P
#3623 [16:42] <lyude> Which, is annoying D:
#3624 [16:42] <lyude> I wish they could fix that
#3625 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> lyude: once Mojang starts on optimization, they might get proper threading going
#3626 [16:43] <lyude> yay
#3627 [16:45] <xales> !check 24.132.120.234
#3628 [16:47] <Nesky> site down ?
#3629 [16:48] <xales> it was
#3630 [16:48] <xales> might still be
#3631 [16:48] <xales> not sure
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#3634 [16:49] <cornelius> DOWN
#3635 [16:49] <cornelius> fUCK
#3636 [16:50] <xales> are we mad?
#3637 [16:51] <Hanski> Should I get an email when my account is upgraded?
#3638 [16:52] <xales> I don't think so, you will only get the payment confirmation email
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#3641 [16:55] <Dotted> I'm getting "[: 194: root: unexpected operator" when running http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_startup_script but i cant figure out what causes it
#3642 [16:56] <xales> are you running it on a Debian based distro (Ubuntu)?
#3643 [16:56] <Dotted> ye
#3644 [16:56] <xales> did you copy it exactly as it is on the site, without adding any sort of line breaks/word wrapping?
#3645 [16:57] <Dotted> copy paste
#3646 [16:57] <xales> what did you copy paste it into?
#3647 [16:57] <Dotted> nano
#3648 [16:57] <xales> that's why
#3649 [16:57] <xales> delete it
#3650 [16:57] <xales> (also don't use nano..but whatever)
#3651 [16:57] <xales> run `nano -w` instead
#3652 [16:57] <xales> and paste it into that
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#3655 [17:01] <mib_pynes1> hey anyone been getting the bug where the game shuts down after the mojang screen?
#3656 [17:02] <xales> no
#3657 [17:02] <xales> ??> mib_pynes1 win/reinst
#3658 [17:02] <VoxelHead> mib_pynes1: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3659 [17:02] <VoxelHead> mib_pynes1: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3660 [17:05] <mib_pynes1> i just had a bad texture pack that made minecraft crash, i wouldnt have found it though if u diddnt tell me to go to %appdata% so thanks a ton!!:D
#3661 [17:07] <mib_pynes1> hey anyone know any good texture packs?
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#3663 [17:10] <mib_pynes1> anyone know a good inv.edit? the one i have loads once after it crashes
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#3666 [17:15] <Kluie> I have a Question about setting up a server I have tried but keep getting a blank world anyone know how to fix this problem?
#3667 [17:16] <mib> do ya know how to change your spawn point in sinlgal player?
#3668 [17:17] <Kluie> no lol
#3669 [17:17] <Kluie> oh by the way I'm playing 1.3 Beta lol
#3670 [17:17] <SkiingPenguins> mib: use a map editor
#3671 [17:18] <mib> how do i accas that?
#3672 [17:19] <mib> the map editor were do i go to access it?
#3673 [17:19] <Kluie> I found the Forum has some
#3674 [17:20] <mib> the forum?
#3675 [17:20] <xales> look at mcedit
#3676 [17:21] <Kluie> I'll try MCedit
#3677 [17:22] <Kluie> how well does mcedit work with windows Vista?
#3678 [17:23] <Dotted> xales nano -w and downloading it directly failed (with some edits using notepad++)
#3679 [17:23] <xales> failed how?
#3680 [17:23] <xales> Kluie: works fine
#3681 [17:23] <Dotted> same error
#3682 [17:23] <Kluie> thks
#3683 [17:24] <Kluie> now to figure out how to use it lol
#3684 [17:24] <xales> Dotted: you probably copied it wrong. look at the line number it gives you, and the error itself, and fix it
#3685 [17:24] <Dotted> how do you copy wrong/download wrong?
#3686 [17:25] <xales> you might have selected too much, and gotten some of the wiki formatting, or something else
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#3688 [17:26] <Dotted> i find it highly unlikely i have copied wrong over 10 times
#3689 [17:26] <Kluie> oh almost for got can the maps made with mcedit be used w/ a server ?
#3690 [17:26] <Dotted> but line 194 is "esac" so im not sure what i can fix here
#3691 [17:26] <xales> Dotted: use 'cat' or 'less' to view the file on the server
#3692 [17:27] <xales> make sure that line 194 is actually 'esac' on the server's file
#3693 [17:27] <mib> how do i change my spawn point in singal player?
#3694 [17:27] <xales> use a map editor
#3695 [17:27] <xales> you were already told that
#3696 [17:28] <mib> sorry thought you were talking to the other guy
#3697 [17:31] <mib> how do i get to map editor?
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#3699 [17:31] <Dotted> xales is there a better way than counting?
#3700 [17:31] <xales> Dotted: use vim and turn line numbering on
#3701 [17:32] <xales> mib: as I said, MCEdit and look on the forum
#3702 [17:33] <Dotted> vim says esac aswell
#3703 [17:33] <xales> look on the lines above and below it
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#3705 [17:34] <Dotted> ;; above, whitespace below
#3706 [17:34] <Dotted> just like its shown in the wiki article
#3707 [17:34] <xales> and what is the error, again?
#3708 [17:35] <Dotted> "[: 194: root: unexpected operator" is the output from sh +x
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#3710 [17:36] <xales> oh
#3711 [17:37] <xales> "root" is the unexpected operator, it seems
#3712 [17:38] <Hanski> god dammit
#3713 [17:38] <Hanski> still not working
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#3719 [17:54] <Vicktius> Shoop
#3720 [17:55] <Vicktius> Is there anyone here willing to help with a Redstone problem?
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#3725 [17:57] <Vicktius> Yo.
#3726 [17:57] <Vicktius> Or something.
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#3728 [17:58] <leaper> Hey, could anyone help me to increase my framerate in the game?
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#3735 [18:08] <icy_miner> any one got the DeathTpPlus death messages working ?
#3736 [18:11] <Inky> I can't get the game to run, tried updating my gfx drivers but still won't run
#3737 [18:11] <lemon-rev> inky can you run it via web page
#3738 [18:12] <xales> Inky: is it the "pixel format not accelerated, update your graphics card drivers" error?
#3739 [18:12] <lemon-rev> and how does it not run more details
#3740 [18:12] <Inky> no, it won't run in the browser either
#3741 [18:13] <lemon-rev> what os ?
#3742 [18:13] <xales> ??> Inky win/dxdiag
#3743 [18:13] <VoxelHead> Inky: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3744 [18:13] <Inky> vista home premium sp2
#3745 [18:13] <VoxelHead> Inky: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3746 [18:14] <Inky> VoxelHead, I'll try that, ty
#3747 [18:14] <xales> Inky: VoxelHead is a bot
#3748 [18:15] <Inky> I'm an IRC noob
#3749 [18:16] <Dotted> xales im kinda still at a loss, root is not in the script so i asume its the root user so how is one to fix it?
#3750 [18:17] <xales> Dotted: is it a VPS?
#3751 [18:17] <Dotted> yeah amazon ec2
#3752 [18:17] <xales> I'm not sure, but that could have something to do with it
#3753 [18:17] * xales goes to look at the script
#3753 [18:18] <Dotted> the script has worked before though on the same system
#3754 [18:18] <xales> ah, ok
#3755 [18:18] <Dotted> or rather they were both ubuntu 10.10
#3756 [18:18] <xales> both on EC2?
#3757 [18:18] <Dotted> ye
#3758 [18:18] <xales> try using bash instead of sh to run it
#3759 [18:18] <xales> might give you a different error
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#3761 [18:21] <Dotted> just getting Could not start minecraft_server.jar.
#3762 [18:23] <xales> check how you set up the script then
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#3764 [18:24] <Inky> http://pastebin.com/hYqZ3TeD
#3765 [18:25] <ArmEagle> man..the memory hog minecraft is :)
#3766 [18:25] <mib_dmsnvn> hey guys can someone help me
#3767 [18:25] <xales> mib_dmsnvn: with?
#3768 [18:25] <mib_dmsnvn> when i try to buy the game using my visa gift card
#3769 [18:25] <mib_dmsnvn> it doesn't work
#3770 [18:25] <xales> Inky: I don't think the driver for that card will run Minecraft, on Windows at least. I know it works with Linux/OSX...try getting the driver from Acer's website
#3771 [18:25] <xales> ??> mib_dmsnvn prepaid
#3772 [18:25] <mib_dmsnvn> yeah
#3773 [18:25] <xales> err
#3774 [18:26] <VoxelHead> mib_dmsnvn: (prepaid) Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#3775 [18:26] <xales> the bot seems to be not functioning
#3776 [18:26] <xales> there we go
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#3778 [18:26] <mib_dmsnvn> ohhh so i can't buy it with that at all?
#3779 [18:26] <xales> correct
#3780 [18:27] <mib_dmsnvn> okay thanks ill go both my neighbor into buying it for me then [:
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#3782 [18:27] <Inky> xales:ty I'll try updating from the Acer site
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#3786 [18:32] <xxcoolrick92xx> hey whats the email address for when you pay for a gift code and never get it
#3787 [18:32] <xales> how long ago did you pay for it
#3788 [18:33] <xxcoolrick92xx> about two hours ago
#3789 [18:33] <xales> you will need to wait longer than that
#3790 [18:33] <xales> if you haven't recieved it in 24 hours then email payment@mojang.com
#3791 [18:34] <xxcoolrick92xx> okay. because ive already been charged for it
#3792 [18:34] <xxcoolrick92xx> anyone know whats been up with minecraft.net?
#3793 [18:35] <xxcoolrick92xx> kept getting 503 html code all day
#3794 [18:35] <xales> it's been having some issues, which is also why a payment will likely be delayed
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#3796 [18:35] <xxcoolrick92xx> alrightt
#3797 [18:35] <xxcoolrick92xx> thanks
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#3799 [18:40] <Dotted> xales i think it might be an authintication issue, passwd -d doesnt actually delete passwords it seems
#3800 [18:41] <Dotted> or perhaps not
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#3802 [18:56] <nathanaelfoo> hi
#3803 [18:56] <nathanaelfoo> do i have to port forward to create a server
#3804 [18:56] <nathanaelfoo> or can i use Port Map
#3805 [18:56] <Kealper> and what is Port Map?
#3806 [18:56] <nathanaelfoo> application
#3807 [18:56] <nathanaelfoo> umm
#3808 [18:56] <Inky> according to the Acer site I have the latest gfx drivers, so I will wait for more info on my paypal dispute & refund request.I decided to give it 1 more try before I gave up.Ty for the help
#3809 [18:56] <Kealper> oh...nvm i think i know what it does
#3810 [18:57] <xales> you should port forward manually
#3811 [18:57] <Kealper> give it a try, if your router supports it, it will work
#3812 [18:57] <xales> that utility may not work
#3813 [18:57] <nathanaelfoo> ok
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#3817 [18:58] <wsttn> HELLO
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#3819 [18:58] <Kealper> HI WSTTN
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#3821 [18:58] <wsttn> yay! I have a little problem
#3822 [18:58] <xales> which is?
#3823 [18:59] <wsttn> http://cl.ly/5283 keeps popping up after i open minecraft
#3824 [18:59] <wsttn> i tried updating java through system update
#3825 [18:59] <wsttn> and there were no java updates
#3826 [18:59] <xales> that link doesn't work for me
#3827 [18:59] <Kealper> use http://ingur.com for image hosting, whatever you used didn't work
#3828 [18:59] <xales> ^
#3829 [19:00] <Kealper> http://imgur.com **
#3830 [19:00] <wsttn> http://cl.ly/5283
#3831 [19:00] <wsttn> oopsies
#3832 [19:00] <wsttn> haha
#3833 [19:00] <wsttn> http://imgur.com/ItLhg
#3834 [19:01] <xales> what version of OSX are you using
#3835 [19:01] <wsttn> 10.6.6
#3836 [19:01] <xales> and you are up to date in Software Update?
#3837 [19:02] <wsttn> correct, it isn't showing any java updates
#3838 [19:02] <Kealper> open a terminal and type java -version
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#3840 [19:03] <nevercast> Oh Hey
#3841 [19:03] <Kealper> rawr
#3842 [19:03] <nevercast> Oh Hey Kealper
#3843 [19:03] <xales> Voxel, say hi to nevercast
#3844 [19:03] <nevercast> Is there some AG Staff here?
#3845 [19:03] <xales> Kealper: Voxel has a "go down on" command ._.
#3846 [19:03] <xales> nevercast: probably
#3847 [19:03] <wsttn> "Unable to locate a Java Runtime to invoke."
#3848 [19:03] <Kealper> O.o
#3849 [19:03] <xales> AG_Elias AG_Clinton AG_Scott
#3850 [19:03] <AG_Scott> nevercast, yes.
#3851 [19:03] <nevercast> wsttn, install Java :D
#3852 [19:04] <wsttn> haha
#3853 [19:04] <wsttn> seriously?
#3854 [19:04] <xales> wsttn: something is pretty messed up with your computer then
#3855 [19:04] <nevercast> AG_Scott, I'm needing to go to 1gig ram. What's that per month? Disregarding the rest of this month.
#3856 [19:04] <wsttn> i thought it was installed.
#3857 [19:04] <wsttn> ive been playing
#3858 [19:04] <wsttn> uhm
#3859 [19:04] <Kealper> apple should just have java.....
#3860 [19:04] <xales> Kealper: it does
#3861 [19:04] <xales> it's integrated with the system
#3862 [19:04] <AG_Scott> nevercast, can we do this via PM?
#3863 [19:04] <xales> updates are through Apple
#3864 [19:04] <Kealper> so if it can't do that, something is superbroke
#3865 [19:04] <nevercast> AG_Scott: I'd prefer that actually
#3866 [19:04] <SkiingPenguins> whats AG stand for?
#3867 [19:04] <xales> SkiingPenguins: AllGamer
#3868 [19:05] <Kealper> nevercast: how's your server coming along? lol
#3869 [19:05] <AG_Scott> I've found that our customers like seeing us in almost every minecraft related channel. :>
#3870 [19:05] <xales> wsttn: what happened when you started being unable to play
#3871 [19:06] <wsttn> I just tried to open it todayhttp://imgur.com/ItLhg
#3872 [19:06] <wsttn> and
#3873 [19:06] <wsttn> that screenshot
#3874 [19:06] <wsttn> ill restart
#3875 [19:06] <wsttn> once more..
#3876 [19:06] <wsttn> we'll see if that changes anything
#3877 [19:06] <xales> Apple is probably more able to help you with that
#3878 [19:06] <xales> (it's a Java/system problem, not a Minecraft one)
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#3880 [19:07] <wsttn> hm, thought so
#3881 [19:07] <wsttn> was hoping it was a common problem w/ quick fix :D
#3882 [19:08] * w was pinged
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#3883 [19:08] * xales is amused
#3883 [19:08] <Kealper> w you'll get pinged in almost every sentance >.>>
#3884 [19:09] <w> No, this is the first time today
#3885 [19:09] <Kealper> your client has skills then
#3886 [19:09] <Kealper> lol
#3887 [19:09] <Con> I don't get pinged unless someone says "con" as a full word
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#3889 [19:09] <xales> Kealper
#3890 [19:09] <xales> why didn't that ping you
#3891 [19:09] <xales> :>
#3892 [19:09] <Potassium> hey guys
#3893 [19:09] <Kealper> eh? it did
#3894 [19:09] <xales> Kealper: :O
#3895 [19:09] <Kealper> still
#3896 [19:09] <xales> hi Potassium
#3897 [19:09] <xales> Kealper: I thought irssi didn't pick up on formatting in a nick
#3898 [19:10] <Potassium> sorry if this is a stupid question
#3899 [19:10] <Potassium> but
#3900 [19:10] <Con> Kéálpér?
#3901 [19:10] <Kealper> not by default, if i set it it will
#3902 [19:10] <xales> ah
#3903 [19:10] <Potassium> how in the hell do i spawn items that have a superscript number next to them D:
#3904 [19:10] <Potassium> like
#3905 [19:10] <Potassium> http://pokit.etf.ba/get/?c537910121ad350a495c10a1aaaed585.jpg
#3906 [19:10] <xales> you don't
#3907 [19:10] <Con> Potassium: You can only spawn the default item
#3908 [19:10] <xales> you need some sort of a mod for that
#3909 [19:10] <Mash> Linux peoples- what's the default ftpd package for ubuntu that allows logins with the systems user/pass rather than preconfigured ones?
#3910 [19:10] <Kealper> or an NBT file editor
#3911 [19:11] <Potassium> oh
#3912 [19:11] <xales> Mash: there is no 'default'
#3913 [19:11] <xales> and they all allow that
#3914 [19:11] <xales> (virtual users is usually a seperate module)
#3915 [19:11] <Potassium> lame :/
#3916 [19:11] <xales> the only one I know of that doesn't work like that is GreyLine
#3917 [19:11] <nevercast> Mash, use wu-ftpd or proftpd
#3918 [19:11] <AG_Scott> Mash, openssh has a built in sftp server
#3919 [19:11] <xales> ^
#3920 [19:11] <AG_Scott> I'd say just use it.
#3921 [19:11] <xales> ^
#3922 [19:11] <xales> however, if you must use FTP
#3923 [19:11] <nevercast> Actually that's true
#3924 [19:12] <Mash> proftpd's installed already, random error though
#3925 [19:12] <xales> proftpd or vsftpd is what you want
#3926 [19:12] <nevercast> Mash, You already have the Openssh package, Use the sftp
#3927 [19:12] <xales> ^
#3928 [19:12] <Mash> ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inted/xinetd mode. check your configuration.
#3929 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> meiskam: Just use SCP :p
#3930 [19:12] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: SCP is no good if you don't know what file you're after
#3931 [19:12] <xales> Mash: are you trying to run it in standalone, or inetd mode
#3932 [19:12] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Though my offsite backups use SCP <3
#3933 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: SFTP != SCP
#3934 [19:12] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: I know
#3935 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> erm, ~=
#3936 [19:12] <Mash> Was trying to run it in inetd
#3937 [19:13] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: I really do know :P
#3938 [19:13] <xales> Mash: you don't start it like that then
#3939 [19:13] <Mash> apt-get install when it was done building just pooped that error
#3940 [19:13] <Mash> I didn't start anything
#3941 [19:13] <xales> do you have an inetd installed?
#3942 [19:13] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: afaik, SCP is just for one liner file transfers, It wont give you anything interactive.
#3943 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> If you don't know what files you want, SFTP is your best bet becuase it's still secure, and you can browse much like FTP
#3944 [19:13] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Exactly
#3945 [19:13] <nevercast> Mash, What is the purpose of your ftpd?
#3946 [19:14] <nevercast> Mash, What do you want to use it for and from which client?
#3947 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: I think we're trying to convince each other that we're both right (:
#3948 [19:14] <lyude> But in truth
#3949 [19:14] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: haha... Lets Agree to Agree that we ARE both right
#3950 [19:14] <lyude> I am right
#3951 [19:14] <lyude> In that I am awesome
#3952 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: I can work with that.
#3953 [19:14] <nevercast> (Y)
#3954 [19:14] <Mash> I like being able to remotely access my shit
#3955 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> And now, I see how well I can play Civ V when all hopped up on medication.
#3956 [19:14] <Mash> And FTP's pretty well universal
#3957 [19:14] <nevercast> Mash, from a linux or from a windows machine?
#3958 [19:15] <xales> FTP is insecure at best
#3959 [19:15] <Mash> From any machine I'm on anywhere I may end up having to be.
#3960 [19:15] <xales> a security nightmere and usable attack vector at worst
#3961 [19:15] <xales> nightmare*
#3962 [19:15] <Mash> It's a home-server, for god's sake people. security is not an issue here
#3963 [19:15] <xales> sftp is better in every regard
#3964 [19:15] <nevercast> Mash, FileZilla supports SFTP
#3965 [19:15] <nevercast> Mash, Just use that
#3966 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Mash: SCP/SFTP is _easier_ than FTP to set up
#3967 [19:15] <Mash> fine
#3968 [19:15] <nevercast> FTP is plain text and insecure
#3969 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> _and_ more secure
#3970 [19:15] <Mash> question: HOW?
#3971 [19:15] <AG_Scott> FileZilla, WinSCP, etc.
#3972 [19:16] <xales> Mash: you don't need to do anything
#3973 [19:16] <nevercast> Mash, how what?
#3974 [19:16] <xales> you just connect using an sftp client
#3975 [19:16] <AG_Scott> Most linux distros just let you "mount" them.
#3976 [19:16] <nevercast> Mash, SFTP is already installed
#3977 [19:16] <Mash> ..
#3978 [19:16] <xales> just like you do with ssh
#3979 [19:16] <nevercast> Mash, Come back to Steam.. I'll fill you in there.
#3980 [19:16] <xales> sftp = ssh but instead of running commands, you transfer files
#3981 [19:16] <AG_Scott> There's some app for OS X that lets you mount them too
#3982 [19:17] <Mash> last time I dicked with linux guys, it was ubuntu was 3.04, and before that, redhat7
#3983 [19:17] <Mash> er, I think it was 7
#3984 [19:17] <Mash> then debian before ubuntu existed
#3985 [19:17] <nevercast> Mash, You got openssh right?
#3986 [19:17] <Mash> 'course
#3987 [19:17] <nevercast> Mash, you installed that with apt-get earlier right?
#3988 [19:17] <nevercast> Mash, Okay then SFTPD is already running
#3989 [19:17] <Mash> i already sftp'd into it
#3990 [19:18] <Mash> Now, let's see if I can ungay samba.
#3991 [19:18] <xales> samba ._.
#3992 [19:18] <nevercast> Lol it will never be ungay'd
#3993 [19:18] <nevercast> Although I think there is a 'share' command with it
#3994 [19:18] <nevercast> It's pretty trivial when set up correctly
#3995 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> SMB is a protocol and has no sexual proclivities.
#3996 [19:19] <nevercast> share <dir> <sharename> or somethin'
#3997 [19:19] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Thanks :)
#3998 [19:19] <lukegb> CIFS! :P
#3999 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: <3
#4000 [19:19] <lukegb> The Common Internet FAIL System or somesuch :P
#4001 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#4002 [19:21] <Mash> nevercast; I'm always on steam.
#4003 [19:21] * xales pokes DopeGhoti
#4003 [19:21] <Mash> this chan just has more people and collective intelligence conquers all.
#4004 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> mm?
#4005 [19:21] <Mash> Speaking of, seems Samba did in fact ungay itself.
#4006 [19:22] <nevercast> Mash, It's been good recently
#4007 [19:22] <xales> DopeGhoti: #wo[snip]
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#4011 [19:28] <xorcon> what should i do if it says: failed to connect to the server connection refused: connect ?
#4012 [19:30] <xales> are you running the server?
#4013 [19:33] <xorcon> no
#4014 [19:33] <xales> then there is nothing you can do about that
#4015 [19:33] <xorcon> i try to join servers
#4016 [19:33] <xales> it means the server you are trying to connect to is not running
#4017 [19:33] <xorcon> have tried many
#4018 [19:33] <xales> try 'smp.shadow-craft.net'
#4019 [19:33] <xorcon> will try some more i suppose
#4020 [19:33] <xorcon> ok
#4021 [19:34] <xorcon> now it worked :)
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#4023 [19:36] <Mash> nevercast, btw, right as you went to bed, the auth servers went down for like 5ish hours.
#4024 [19:37] <xales> never go to bed again! :(
#4025 [19:37] <Mash> Must've had like a thousand people come in just to scream "zomfg y i r cant play?"
#4026 [19:38] <Mash> Then leave like 4 seconds later.
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#4028 [19:39] <bf4> hi
#4029 [19:39] <bf4> i need help
#4030 [19:40] <bf4> i try to play minecraft offline and it says
#4031 [19:40] <bf4> http://mibpaste.com/0juekl
#4032 [19:40] <bf4> can some one help me please?
#4033 [19:41] <austin> Looks like you need to reinstall your Video Card drivers from ATI or Nvidia
#4034 [19:41] <Con> Try the web version
#4035 [19:41] <bf4> i did
#4036 [19:41] <bf4> but i want to play offline
#4037 [19:41] <bf4> and how do i reinstall drivers?
#4038 [19:42] <Mash> Are you playing on some archaic machine or do you just not have a dedicated card?
#4039 [19:42] <bf4> i play on xp
#4040 [19:42] <Mash> That's just the OS, kinda meant the actual video card.
#4041 [19:42] <Mash> Or chip.
#4042 [19:42] <bf4> so what do i do?
#4043 [19:43] <nevercast> Mash, Perhaps he could try GPU-Z
#4044 [19:43] <austin> Do you know what your graphics card model is? If so, go to google and type in the model Like (Nvidia 8800GTS Drivers) and click on an ATI or Nvidia link and download the latest set of drivers
#4045 [19:43] <nevercast> Mash, Then at least we know what card he has
#4046 [19:43] <Mash> Suppose, but there's an easier way to find out of it's some integrated POS
#4047 [19:43] <bf4> i don't know my driver type.............
#4048 [19:43] <Mash> bf4; the monitor plug on the back of your computer, is it near your keyboard/mouse, or is it more on the bottom of the case?
#4049 [19:43] <xales> ??> bf4 win/dxdiag
#4050 [19:43] <VoxelHead> bf4: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4051 [19:43] <VoxelHead> bf4: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4052 [19:44] <bf4> which one
#4053 [19:44] <Mash> My eyes are drawn to line 2 of mine, computername: GodBox.
#4054 [19:44] <Mash> =D
#4055 [19:45] <austin> To find your video card model on XP go to start, right click on My computer, click on properties, hardware, then device manager and go under video cards
#4056 [19:45] * mib_z5nic2 [mib_z5nic2@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4057 [19:45] <mib_z5nic2> hi
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#4059 [19:46] <needhelp> anyone here?
#4060 [19:46] <needhelp> I need help
#4061 [19:46] <Mash> only 150+ of us.
#4062 [19:46] <Mash> 181, pardon me
#4063 [19:46] <needhelp> k
#4064 [19:46] <bf4> is it mprocessors?
#4065 [19:46] <needhelp> does any of the 180+ know how to fix a minecraft crashing problem?
#4066 [19:46] <Mash> bf4 look under video cards
#4067 [19:46] <austin> for video cards, i think try display adapters
#4068 [19:47] <austin> under tht menu
#4069 [19:47] <Mash> ^ what he said
#4070 [19:47] <mib_z5nic2> can someone help me when i try to join in multiplier it sai bad login...
#4071 [19:47] <Mash> !paid mib_z5nic2
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#4073 [19:47] <needhelp> make sure ure caps lock isnt on
#4074 [19:47] <nevercast> Mash< LLOL!!!!
#4075 [19:47] <needhelp> do u have to 'play offline'
#4076 [19:47] <mib_z5nic2> yes i did
#4077 [19:47] <nevercast> Mash, Did you just Paid query a Mibbit user?
#4078 [19:48] <Mash> It was the principal.
#4079 [19:48] <bf4> http://mibpaste.com/lVZVRR
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#4081 [19:48] <bf4> sry
#4082 [19:48] <needhelp> can someone help me?
#4083 [19:48] <XLilCasper> 'sup everybody
#4084 [19:48] <nevercast> Oh Mash, Did that IC Chip plugin work?
#4085 [19:48] <needhelp> i have a prob with a hs_err_pid6016.log thing
#4086 [19:48] <nevercast> Hey LilCasper
#4087 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - Can you pastebin.com it?
#4088 [19:48] <needhelp> i tried reinstalling java
#4089 [19:48] <needhelp> k
#4090 [19:49] <icy_miner> [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#4091 [19:49] <icy_miner> whats this mean
#4092 [19:49] <Mash> nevercast; yes, but you can remove it.. Turns out it's more complicated than actually wiring the freaking things manually.
#4093 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely nothing icy_miner, you can ignore it
#4094 [19:49] <austin> bf4 did you figure out your model or the website for drivers?
#4095 [19:49] <needhelp> http://pastebin.com/LZKeMKhb
#4096 [19:50] <xales> ??> icy_miner normal
#4097 [19:50] <VoxelHead> icy_miner: (normal) That message is perfectly normal, and happens all the time. However, if the console is spamming it or it occurs very frequently, then it is indicating that the machine is not powerful enough to run the server.
#4098 [19:50] <icy_miner> hmm odd though got 3 in a row then a socket exeception conection reset
#4099 [19:50] <xales> probably means the latter of the two then
#4100 [19:50] <xales> bf4: that's empty
#4101 [19:50] <Mash> needhelp; that looks like bad ram to me. >,>
#4102 [19:50] <icy_miner> so my vps is robing me blind
#4103 [19:51] <Mash> flat out invalid pointers
#4104 [19:51] <needhelp> how do i check how much i have? im on a laptop
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#4106 [19:51] <icy_miner> 123systems :-/ 2gb ram
#4107 [19:51] <bf4> i have an intel (r) 82915g/gv/910gl express chipset family
#4108 [19:51] <xales> bf4: there is the problem then
#4109 [19:51] <Mash> needhelp: windows-key and the PAUSE/BREAK key, up left from numlock
#4110 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Mash - But look at the stack. I'm betting it's something video related
#4111 [19:52] <xales> those cards are far too old/crappy to run a modern game (like Minecraft)
#4112 [19:52] <austin> I will see if there are new drivers for that
#4113 [19:52] <xales> austin: there aren't
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#4115 [19:52] <xales> the card doesn't support Minecraft
#4116 [19:52] <bf4> you mean my drive?
#4117 [19:52] <austin> Okay...
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#4119 [19:52] <bf4> you mean my drive?
#4120 [19:52] <xales> bf4: your video card
#4121 [19:52] <bf4> :(
#4122 [19:52] <Mash> no, the thing that prints colors and things on your monitor, bf4
#4123 [19:52] <bf4> how do i update it?
#4124 [19:52] <xales> you need to buy a new computer, pretty much
#4125 [19:52] <austin> Bf4, I would buy a new one...
#4126 [19:52] <Mash> if it's a laptop; buy a new laptop lol
#4127 [19:52] <xales> that's an integrated card
#4128 [19:52] <xales> so nothing you can do but get a new computer
#4129 [19:53] <bf4> :(
#4130 [19:53] <bf4> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(
#4131 [19:53] <Mash> xales; not true if he's on a desktop, can just pay to have some local shop install some old radeon9700 or something
#4132 [19:53] <bf4> i was able to world of goo
#4133 [19:53] <austin> xales, cant he buy a new card and insert it into a PCI Express slot?
#4134 [19:53] <SkiingPenguins> i have a "mobile intel 965 express chipset family" and it works alright but not very well
#4135 [19:53] <bf4> i was able to play world of goo thugh
#4136 [19:53] <xales> austin: laptop. it's not something you can just put in like a destop
#4137 [19:53] <xales> bf4: that's not Minecraft, is it?
#4138 [19:54] <xales> Mash: he isn't on a desktop :)
#4139 [19:54] <austin> Oh, I thought it was a desktop
#4140 [19:54] <Mash> Oh
#4141 [19:54] <bf4> nwope
#4142 [19:54] <Mash> Yeah, you're screwed.
#4143 [19:54] <SkiingPenguins> xales are there express card graphic cards
#4144 [19:54] <Mash> Need a new laptop
#4145 [19:54] <xales> SkiingPenguins: what?
#4146 [19:54] <bf4> what system requirements
#4147 [19:54] <bf4> does minecraft jneed?
#4148 [19:54] <xales> bf4: pretty much any modern non-netbook computer will run it
#4149 [19:54] <SkiingPenguins> xales my laptop has a "Express Card" slot.. do you know of graphic cards that go in there?
#4150 [19:54] <Mash> anything that doesn't say "Intel GMA <numbers here>" on it
#4151 [19:54] <xales> SkiingPenguins: PCI Express, or just "Express Card" (the latter cannot be used for a graphics card)
#4152 [19:55] <SkiingPenguins> aww.
#4153 [19:55] <bf4> so a new mac book?
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#4155 [19:55] <Mash> I don't get why people game on laptops anyway.
#4156 [19:55] <xales> ^
#4157 [19:55] <xales> bf4: a new computer, yes
#4158 [19:55] <xales> whatever kind that is
#4159 [19:55] <austin> The specs are: CPU: 1.5+ GHz multi-core processor, 2.0+ GHz single-core processor
#4160 [19:55] <austin> RAM/Memory: 1.0+ GB for Xp, 1.5+ GB for Windows 7-32 bit, 2.0+ GB for Vista/Mac OS, 3.0+ GB for Windows 7-64 bit
#4161 [19:55] <austin> Graphic card: Must support OpenGL 1.4 or better (if the computer is a laptop and uses an Intel Graphic Processor, check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#Specifications, otherwise if it is from Nvidia/Ati, you should be fine)there is another variable in this that affects gameplay so no additional info until then
#4162 [19:55] <austin> Hard Drive Space: 80+ MB of free space (might need more as Notch might add more stuff later on)
#4163 [19:55] <bf4> k
#4164 [19:55] <Malak_Dawnfire> How come it seems like every game I join has this weird block lag?
#4165 [19:55] <xales> Malak_Dawnfire: possibly your internet conection?
#4166 [19:55] <needhelp> 2 gb of ram. My reg comp has 768
#4167 [19:55] <needhelp> and it works
#4168 [19:55] <needhelp> just slow.
#4169 [19:56] <bf4> i have mpost of those already............
#4170 [19:56] <austin> sorry about the triple post, I copied and pasted :-(
#4171 [19:56] <bf4> *most
#4172 [19:56] <Malak_Dawnfire> I don't think so, everybody else in the servers was complaining about it too.
#4173 [19:56] <xales> bf4: the problem is the graphics card
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#4175 [19:56] <bf4> k
#4176 [19:56] <xales> Malak_Dawnfire: It's the server then
#4177 [19:56] <bf4> so how would a mac do?
#4178 [19:56] <xales> as I said, any new computer, whatever that happens to be
#4179 [19:56] <Mash> Like a mac does at anything lol
#4180 [19:56] <Mash> mediocre.
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#4182 [19:56] <austin> bf4 I am on a mac now, and it runs amazing!
#4183 [19:57] <bf4> sweet
#4184 [19:57] <bf4> i am getting one next year i thnik
#4185 [19:57] <austin> Great!
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#4187 [19:58] <needhelp> So, whats the solution for my prob?
#4188 [19:58] <xales> needhelp: update graphics card drivers
#4189 [19:59] <needhelp> ok...
#4190 [20:00] <Mash> GreyVulpine; all I'm really seeing is that the ogl wrapper flat ass died on load
#4191 [20:00] <austin> Wow, I just had all my diamond on me and out of no where here comes a creeper just now :-(
#4192 [20:00] <Mash> /give austin diamond 64
#4193 [20:00] <Mash> <,<
#4194 [20:00] <Mash> Feels weird typing that, my name being Austin and all.
#4195 [20:01] <austin> lol
#4196 [20:01] <bf4> anyway thnx guys cya!
#4197 [20:01] <Mash> Wish I could give myself 64c of diamonds, dayam.
#4198 [20:02] <Con> Hmm, /give.. I remember when my server had hMod it could do more than just 64 at a time, and I accidentally spawned ~300,000 cobblestone
#4199 [20:02] <Mash> Your 0 key get stuck or something? Kinda Mash(haha)ed a few extra 0's.
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#4201 [20:04] <skifer> Hey
#4202 [20:04] <nevercast> Firstly I put the HDD in the wrong way, Then second it doesn't even boot.. Stupid lame hardware!
#4203 [20:04] <skifer> anyone help me to set up a server?
#4204 [20:04] <skifer> i need the ip for it
#4205 [20:05] <xales> skifer: http://whatismyip.org/
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#4207 [20:05] <skifer> what do i just use my own ip?
#4208 [20:05] <needhelp> or open command prompt and enter ipconfig...
#4209 [20:05] <nevercast> needhelp, Fail
#4210 [20:05] <nevercast> needhelp, That's the private address.
#4211 [20:05] <needhelp> but i guess thats easier
#4212 [20:05] <Mash> needhelp; most people are behind a router, that's a fail.
#4213 [20:06] <needhelp> for my house and using that i used command prompt and it worked...
#4214 [20:06] <nevercast> skifer, Are you looking for your ip to give to people?
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#4216 [20:06] <nevercast> needhelp, Only in your house will it work
#4217 [20:06] <Mash> props for trying to provide help when your name is 'needhelp' though lol
#4218 [20:06] <nevercast> needhelp, no one outside can use it
#4219 [20:06] <nevercast> Mash, Lol.
#4220 [20:06] <skifer> I am looking for a ip to give to people so we can play together
#4221 [20:06] <nevercast> skifer, Yeah then follow xales suggestion.
#4222 [20:06] <skifer> so they can connect to me in my world type of think
#4223 [20:06] <skifer> thing*
#4224 [20:06] <skifer> ok thanks
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#4226 [20:06] <skifer> whats the port number?
#4227 [20:07] <xales> don't enter one
#4228 [20:07] <skifer> or do i just use the ip?
#4229 [20:07] <nevercast> skifer: You don't need it
#4230 [20:07] <needhelp> well sry!
#4231 [20:07] <nevercast> skifer: It'll be default
#4232 [20:07] <skifer> ty
#4233 [20:07] <nevercast> skifer: but 25565 for the record.
#4234 [20:07] <needhelp> then use the site
#4235 [20:07] <Naranar> when minecraft.net is back up go on craftland.org
#4236 [20:07] <Naranar> its a server
#4237 [20:08] <needhelp> Oh yeah, back to my prob again, what's wrong with java if the browser versoin doesn't work either? same thing of video card?
#4238 [20:08] <oldtopman> minecraft.net is upnow.
#4239 [20:08] <skifer> it says when i try to connect to it myself it says, failed to connect to server - connection refused: connect?
#4240 [20:08] <needhelp> do localhost
#4241 [20:08] <needhelp> if on same comp
#4242 [20:09] <skifer> how do i do that im new to minecraft servers
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#4244 [20:09] <needhelp> ? do wut exactly?
#4245 [20:09] <Naranar> i keep on getting black screen
#4246 [20:09] <needhelp> same
#4247 [20:09] <skifer> do local host
#4248 [20:09] <Mash> localhost*
#4249 [20:09] <needhelp> no spaces
#4250 [20:09] <Mash> Or if that fails, 127.0.0.1
#4251 [20:09] <needhelp> naranar, same prob
#4252 [20:10] <xales> Naranar: black screen when?
#4253 [20:10] <needhelp> after log in
#4254 [20:10] <needhelp> for me
#4255 [20:10] <Naranar> yes
#4256 [20:10] <needhelp> then closes?
#4257 [20:10] <xales> update video card driver, as I've said
#4258 [20:10] <Naranar> i log in then it goes black and nothing happens
#4259 [20:10] <needhelp> thats wut im doin
#4260 [20:10] <needhelp> 70% download
#4261 [20:11] <skifer> when i type in localhost on minecraft server it says unknown command
#4262 [20:11] <Naranar> how do i update it
#4263 [20:11] <Mash> .. you type localhost in the GAME after clicking multiplayer
#4264 [20:11] <needhelp> in minecraft.exe, go to multiplayer and enter locahost
#4265 [20:11] <xales> ??> Naranar win/dxdiag
#4266 [20:11] <VoxelHead> Naranar: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4267 [20:11] <VoxelHead> Naranar: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4268 [20:11] <needhelp> DUH
#4269 [20:11] <skifer> Sorry ultimate minecraft gods
#4270 [20:12] <needhelp> u shud be
#4271 [20:12] <skifer> i didnt mean to insult your inteeligence with my peasent mind xD
#4272 [20:12] <needhelp> jk
#4273 [20:12] <austin> does anyone know how to find your house after a creeper killed you
#4274 [20:12] <needhelp> nah
#4275 [20:12] <oldtopman> austin: no.
#4276 [20:12] <needhelp> use a transparancy texture pack and look for something... idk
#4277 [20:13] <austin> ok thanks
#4278 [20:13] <oldtopman> You could use MCedit to find your house and change your spawn.
#4279 [20:13] <skifer> my server has no trees O_O
#4280 [20:13] <needhelp> lol
#4281 [20:13] <needhelp> u cant get anywhere then
#4282 [20:13] <skifer> how can i edit it so its a good map?
#4283 [20:13] <nevercast> skifer: Just rebuild the entire map :D
#4284 [20:14] <skifer> whats the console command?
#4285 [20:14] <needhelp> enter Glacier in new world in the seed box! its awesome
#4286 [20:14] <skifer> or do i just reset the server
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#4288 [20:14] <nevercast> skifer: delete your world folder and restart server
#4289 [20:14] <nevercast> skifer: You WILL lose everything
#4290 [20:14] * VoxelHead is back
#4290 [20:15] <skifer> Omg >_<
#4291 [20:15] <skifer> where is the world folder? in appdata?
#4292 [20:15] <Mash> Anyone aware of a mod or _anything_ client-side to shrink the chat text? this 1024x1024 lettering is seriously making my head hurt.
#4293 [20:15] <nevercast> skifer: where ever your server is installed
#4294 [20:15] <skifer> its just and .exe i run
#4295 [20:15] <skifer> an*
#4296 [20:15] <nevercast> Mash, The HD Patcher has a tick box to change the font of the game
#4297 [20:15] <Con> Voxel you were gone?
#4298 [20:15] <VoxelHead> Yes.
#4299 [20:15] <skifer> not installed under program files
#4300 [20:15] <nevercast> Mash, Makes it a little nicer.
#4301 [20:16] <nevercast> skifer: where is the exe stored?
#4302 [20:16] <Mash> Erm, I ticked it and it's not smaller.
#4303 [20:16] <skifer> under my downloads
#4304 [20:16] <nevercast> Mash, Err.. Okay then Idk.. I could try find out :)
#4305 [20:17] <skifer> ok i get it now
#4306 [20:17] <skifer> the .exe extracts in the folder its in
#4307 [20:17] <skifer> i did not know that
#4308 [20:17] <Mash> nevercast, I'd appreciate it if you could locate something lol
#4309 [20:17] <nevercast> Mash, I'll get my 'tools' ;)
#4310 [20:18] <Mash> .. wtf? this sounds fun
#4311 [20:18] <Mash> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/fun-chickenbombs-v0-1-launch-exploding-chickens-452.5601/
#4312 [20:18] <VoxelHead> yes, but only at the weekend
#4313 [20:19] <Con> /ignore VoxelHead!*@*
#4314 [20:20] <skifer> someone connect to my server see if it works please
#4315 [20:20] <skifer> 82.24.92.66
#4316 [20:20] * Con realises that would fail since /accept has a higher priority than /ignore
#4316 [20:20] <Con> !check 82.24.92.66
#4317 [20:21] <skifer> ??
#4318 [20:21] <skifer> what can i do now
#4319 [20:21] * Con really needs to learn how to successfully set up a server so he can help more
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#4321 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> There's really nothing to setting up a server
#4322 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Run the server binary. Port forward as necessary, configure firewall/security software as necessary
#4323 [20:23] <Con> The problem is, I've tried it about twelve times and been unsuccessful
#4324 [20:23] <skifer> i just wish a static ip would work with me
#4325 [20:23] <skifer> but each time i do it
#4326 [20:23] <skifer> it just doesnt work
#4327 [20:23] <skifer> tried everything
#4328 [20:24] <xales> skifer: by "static" IP, do you mean external?
#4329 [20:24] <skifer> as in if i port forward
#4330 [20:24] <skifer> it will never change
#4331 [20:24] <xales> you can't get a static IP like that on a home connection
#4332 [20:24] <nevercast> Mash, I might be able to knock something up
#4333 [20:24] <xales> you need a home business connection, pretty much
#4334 [20:24] <skifer> Right...
#4335 [20:24] <xales> you can use a service like dyndns or no-ip as a workaround for that
#4336 [20:25] <skifer> software?
#4337 [20:25] <Mash> Speaking of knocking things up.. I should probably get into PS and fix my default skin.
#4338 [20:25] <Mash> I look noobie.
#4339 [20:25] <Hanski> Hey
#4340 [20:25] <xales> skifer: yes
#4341 [20:25] <Hanski> Does all servers lag or is it just me?
#4342 [20:25] <xales> just you
#4343 [20:25] <Hanski> Hmm
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#4345 [20:30] <skifer> gah i dont get this
#4346 [20:30] <skifer> why cant people connect to me
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#4348 [20:30] <VoxelHead> i like them ^_^
#4349 [20:30] <VoxelHead> Good Morning MrHabbits
#4350 [20:30] <MrHabbits> Im having trouble with the multiplayer.
#4351 [20:31] <xales> anything more specific then that?
#4352 [20:31] <MrHabbits> When I log into a server (All servers) im extremely delayed. It has been this way since the update. Is their anyway to fix this problem?
#4353 [20:32] <xales> does single player work fine (no lag)?
#4354 [20:32] <MrHabbits> No lag what so ever.
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#4356 [20:32] <skifer> !check 82.24.92.66
#4357 [20:32] <VoxelHead> Wasn't expecting vvenaya!
#4358 [20:32] * VoxelHead hides.
#4358 [20:32] <MrHabbits> Ive reinstalled twice.
#4359 [20:32] <xolotl> I have noticed that terrain generation seems to lag my server, now
#4360 [20:32] <xolotl> More than it used to, anyway
#4361 [20:32] <Con> Voxel you idea thief
#4362 [20:33] <xolotl> If I stick to already-generated areas it's not noticeable though
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#4364 [20:33] <xolotl> (this is since the 1.3 release)
#4365 [20:33] <xolotl> (well, actually I suppose I hadn't really been on a new map since 1.3, so that observation is kind of meaningless)
#4366 [20:33] <MrHabbits> Xolotl my chat and everything except movement is delayed.
#4367 [20:34] <xales> MrHabbits: how fast is your Internet connection?
#4368 [20:34] <xolotl> MrHabbits: If your router can give you bandwidth stats, it may be worth checking that out
#4369 [20:34] <MrHabbits> Ill fetch the speed test
#4370 [20:34] <xolotl> (currently-being-used, etc)
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#4374 [20:35] <skifer> Do i want single port forward, pot range forward or port triggering?
#4375 [20:35] <xales> single port
#4376 [20:37] <MrHabbits> Says my speed is above average and my ping was 33
#4377 [20:37] <Mobotto> Hey, my friend had a server running, and his dad was doing construction and turned off the breaker, so when he started up the server it said Failed to bind to port
#4378 [20:37] <skifer> !check 82.24.92.66
#4379 [20:37] <xales> MrHabbits: can you paste the actual results? "above average" doesn't mean much
#4380 [20:37] <skifer> ffs
#4381 [20:37] * WP2x [WP2x@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4382 [20:38] <MrHabbits> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1186484775.png
#4383 [20:38] <xales> Mobotto: have them restart the computer
#4384 [20:38] <xales> beyond that, playing telephone is not something I really want to do
#4385 [20:38] <xales> have them come on if they want help
#4386 [20:39] <WP2x> Hey there. What software I need to host a survival multiplayer server ?
#4387 [20:39] <MrHabbits> Xales did you look at it?
#4388 [20:39] <xales> MrHabbits: sorry, missed it, one sec
#4389 [20:39] <skifer> Don't try hosting
#4390 [20:39] <skifer> too complicated
#4391 [20:39] <xales> WP2x: all you need is the official software from minecraft.net
#4392 [20:39] <skifer> i cant figure it out
#4393 [20:40] <xales> skifer: it's really not that complicated
#4394 [20:40] <skifer> it really is
#4395 [20:40] <nevercast> Wow, Git kicks SVN in the balls for speed.
#4396 [20:40] <xales> try following the instructions on http://portforward.com/ for your router
#4397 [20:40] <xales> and if you have any networking or server experience, it really isn't =/
#4398 [20:40] <xales> running a server isn't designed for everyone to be able to do
#4399 [20:40] <nevercast> ^
#4400 [20:40] <skifer> I do have experience in networking but this is ridiculous
#4401 [20:40] <nevercast> Instead of running another server like 1000's of people already
#4402 [20:41] <nevercast> Why not join on that exists
#4403 [20:41] <xales> if you can't port forward, clearly not
#4404 [20:41] <xales> it's not even Minecraft-specific
#4405 [20:41] <WP2x> Router won't be a problem :) Can't find the software tho lol.
#4406 [20:41] <skifer> I can port forward
#4407 [20:41] <xales> WP2x: it's on the same page you download the client
#4408 [20:41] <nevercast> xales, port forwarding is fundimental :D
#4409 [20:41] <WP2x> ah.. lol. Thanks.
#4410 [20:41] <xales> skifer: it seems not :P
#4411 [20:41] <skifer> been port forwarding for agesssss
#4412 [20:41] <skifer> new firmware on router
#4413 [20:41] <MrHabbits> xales, have you taken A look?
#4414 [20:42] <MrHabbits> If i need i can post it again
#4415 [20:42] <nevercast> skifer, What's the problem?
#4416 [20:42] <xales> MrHabbits: browser is stuck, one sec
#4417 [20:42] <nevercast> skifer, why are you having so much trouble?
#4418 [20:42] <nevercast> xales, What's up with skifier?
#4419 [20:42] <nevercast> *skifer
#4420 [20:42] <skifer> I don't know you tell me i cant get my server to ping back from the irc
#4421 [20:42] <xales> nevercast: he can't get the port forwarding to work, that, or it's a firewall, or he put something on the server-ip= line
#4422 [20:43] <nevercast> skifer, Ping back? What do you mean ping pack?
#4423 [20:43] <xales> MrHabbits: that should be fine...
#4424 [20:43] <xales> nevercast: he means AuBot can't connect
#4425 [20:43] <nevercast> skifer, Most routers don't allow you to forward Ping packets
#4426 [20:43] <skifer> as in !check ip
#4427 [20:43] <nevercast> xales, OH
#4428 [20:43] <xales> (aka: one of the things I said above)
#4429 [20:43] <nevercast> skifer, That's not a ping lol...
#4430 [20:43] <MrHabbits> Xales it not
#4431 [20:43] <nevercast> skifer, Do you run a firewall?
#4432 [20:43] <skifer> no i have disabled it
#4433 [20:43] <nevercast> skifer, Do you run an Antivirus?
#4434 [20:43] <nevercast> skifer, Do you run windows?
#4435 [20:43] <skifer> and my avast is disabled
#4436 [20:43] <xales> MrHabbits: I mean the connection...try creating a new Windows user account and running it with that
#4437 [20:43] <MrHabbits> I have
#4438 [20:43] <skifer> I'm trying to portforward the ports but it doesnt seem to be saving :S
#4439 [20:43] <xales> otherwise..the next update should fix it, some people are having that problem and it's inexplicable
#4440 [20:44] <xales> skifer: that's hardly our problem
#4441 [20:44] <xales> if your router doesn't work, what are we supposed to do about it?
#4442 [20:44] <nevercast> skifer, What is your router make and model?
#4443 [20:44] <xales> and how does that make it "complicated?"
#4444 [20:44] <nevercast> xales, I'll handle this guy, You go get a coffee
#4445 [20:44] <skifer> linksys wrt54g/gl
#4446 [20:44] * nevercast pats xales on the back
#4446 [20:44] <xales> nevercast: I don't drink coffee >:D
#4447 [20:44] <VoxelHead> more fun tha bucket of anchovies
#4448 [20:44] <skifer> I like nevercast better hes paitent
#4449 [20:44] <nevercast> xales, How do you stay awake?
#4450 [20:44] <xales> Voxel, make nevercast some coffee
#4451 [20:44] <MrHabbits> Xales so i cant play multiplayer till next update?
#4452 [20:45] <VoxelHead> *replicates some coffee and hands it to nevercast*
#4453 [20:45] <xales> nevercast: bee^W^Wdiet coke
#4454 [20:45] <xales> MrHabbits: I'd say try on another computer on the same connection if at all possible
#4455 [20:45] <MrHabbits> Voxel, make me a samwich please.
#4456 [20:45] * VoxelHead lovingly crafts a samwich please. out of guys for Mrhabbits
#4456 [20:45] * w bets that one was deliberate
#4456 [20:45] <nevercast> xales, I thought backspace was ^M
#4457 [20:45] <xales> see if it's a connection issue or if it's with the computer you are using
#4458 [20:45] <MrHabbits> Ehhh thanks.
#4459 [20:45] <Con> a guy sandwich
#4460 [20:45] <xales> nevercast: depends on the terminal :)
#4461 [20:46] <MrHabbits> I dont have another computer to try on.
#4462 [20:46] <nevercast> Right, skifer. Are you there?
#4463 [20:46] <skifer> indeed i am
#4464 [20:46] <skifer> just looking on portforward now
#4465 [20:46] <nevercast> skifer, Log into your router
#4466 [20:46] <skifer> even though i allready have xD
#4467 [20:46] <nevercast> skifer, Go to the setup screen
#4468 [20:46] <skifer> kk 1 sec
#4469 [20:47] <skifer> ok its allready tabbed anyway
#4470 [20:47] <skifer> shoot me
#4471 [20:47] <skifer> applications / gaming
#4472 [20:47] <nevercast> skifer, Go down to Remote Management
#4473 [20:47] <Mash> nevercast; steam?
#4474 [20:47] <skifer> oh ok
#4475 [20:47] <VoxelHead> a bush
#4476 [20:47] <nevercast> Mash, I'm on
#4477 [20:47] * xales steams nevercast
#4477 [20:47] <xales> Voxel, eat nevercast
#4478 [20:47] * VoxelHead eats nevercast
#4478 [20:47] <VoxelHead> mmmmm... recursive
#4479 [20:48] * Mash shits him out.
#4479 [20:48] <Mash> mmmmm... completed cycle.
#4480 [20:48] <SkiingPenguins> voxel, may i have some hot chocolate?
#4481 [20:48] <skifer> where is remote management?
#4482 [20:48] <skifer> cant find it
#4483 [20:48] <VoxelHead> Lemmie go look that up.
#4484 [20:48] <skifer> not under basic setup
#4485 [20:48] <nevercast> skifer, I would have thought it be under basic setup
#4486 [20:48] <SkiingPenguins> Voxel, give me mtn dew
#4487 [20:48] * VoxelHead gives SkiingPenguins mtn dew
#4487 [20:49] <skifer> can did a ctrl + f and its not there
#4488 [20:49] <SkiingPenguins> aww
#4489 [20:49] <skifer> wait
#4490 [20:49] <skifer> its under administation
#4491 [20:49] <skifer> stration*
#4492 [20:50] <skifer> enable it?
#4493 [20:50] <nevercast> skifer, Yes then talk to me in private chat
#4494 [20:50] <skifer> kk
#4495 [20:50] <oldtopman> Voxel, eat xales.
#4496 [20:50] * Mobotto [Mobotto@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#4497 [20:51] * VoxelHead eats xales.
#4497 [20:51] <xales> Voxel, courtmartial oldtopman
#4498 [20:51] * VoxelHead throws oldtopman in the brig to await charges
#4498 [20:51] <oldtopman> ...
#4499 [20:51] * Roofies [Roofies@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4500 [20:51] <VoxelHead> Oldtopman, you are charged with doing warp 5 in 3 zone, and setting fire to a Black Hole.
#4501 [20:51] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#4502 [20:51] <oldtopman> Voxel, kill xales
#4503 [20:52] * VoxelHead dices xales
#4503 [20:52] <Con> How do you..
#4504 [20:52] * xales sets fire to VoxelHead
#4504 [20:52] <VoxelHead> *flames*
#4505 [20:52] <oldtopman> but you are dead.
#4506 [20:52] <xales> Voxel, cloak
#4507 [20:52] <Con> xales is just diced
#4508 [20:52] * VoxelHead shimmers and disappears from view...
#4508 [20:52] <Roofies> Hey, I was have a server and a breaker was turned off and now when I went back on it says Failed to Bind to Port. I have restarted my computer to try and fix. I am using Linux
#4509 [20:52] <Roofies> I was have.. whoops
#4510 [20:52] <VoxelHead> r it's me! I was the turkey all along!
#4511 [20:52] <xales> Roofies: do you have anything on the server-ip= line of server.properties?
#4512 [20:53] <xales> Voxel, fire everything at oldtopman
#4513 [20:53] * VoxelHead swoops in on oldtopman, decloaking on the way...
#4513 [20:53] * VoxelHead launches some torpedos and fires all phasers
#4513 [20:53] * VoxelHead recloaks
#4513 [20:53] <oldtopman> Roofies: change the server-name in server-properties and check if this new one works.
#4514 [20:53] <Roofies> Okay
#4515 [20:53] <oldtopman> Voxel, ban xales
#4516 [20:54] <oldtopman> ...
#4517 [20:54] * garlandje [garlandje@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4518 [20:54] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#4519 [20:54] <Con> Voxel, kick me
#4520 [20:54] * VoxelHead kicked Con from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: OK)
#4521 [20:54] <garlandje> i have a question/problem... can someone please help me?
#4522 [20:54] * Con [Con@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4523 [20:54] <xales> ??> garlandje ask
#4524 [20:54] <VoxelHead> garlandje: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4525 [20:54] <VoxelHead> garlandje: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4526 [20:54] <Con> success.
#4527 [20:54] <xales> Con: owned.
#4528 [20:54] * B13 [B13@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4529 [20:54] * VoxelHead kicked Con from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: I don't like you :<)
#4530 [20:54] <garlandje> ok sorry
#4531 [20:54] <oldtopman> voxel: demand answers from garlandje
#4532 [20:54] * Con [Con@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4533 [20:55] <VoxelHead> Con you're looking especially shagworthy today.
#4534 [20:55] <Con> ffu-
#4535 [20:55] <B13> Why can't I connect to a multiplayer server?
#4536 [20:55] <garlandje> so when i try to log into my server, i get a message either saying "user not premium", or something like that... whats the deal?
#4537 [20:55] <xales> B13: why can't you?
#4538 [20:55] <xales> garlandje: what is your username?
#4539 [20:56] <garlandje> <<< is my username
#4540 [20:56] <VoxelHead> Con, my hate for you is boundless
#4541 [20:56] <xales> B13: what happens when you try to connect to a server?
#4542 [20:56] <xales> garlandje: are you using "Play Offline"?
#4543 [20:56] <Con> VoxelHead: You'll like me more if you go off the dope
#4544 [20:56] <garlandje> it says either "user failed to log in: user not premium" or something else
#4545 [20:56] <garlandje> t no im trying to go online to use my server
#4546 [20:57] <xales> garlandje: I understand; when you log in, are you clicking "Play Offline"
#4547 [20:57] <garlandje> well i have to now, i have no choice cuz my servers not wanting to run... so yes, im clicking "play offline" *now
#4548 [20:57] <garlandje> but i wasnt playing offline a min ago
#4549 [20:58] * Con knows Voxel's second count for each response type
#4549 [20:58] <garlandje> wasnt even on the server yet
#4550 [20:58] <VoxelHead> i do love a good Coning
#4551 [20:58] * Con cannot be tricked
#4551 [20:58] <xales> why are you clicking "play offline"?
#4552 [20:58] <xales> why not just play online?
#4553 [20:58] <garlandje> cuz i cant get my server to run
#4554 [20:58] <garlandje> cuz i want to play on my server
#4555 [20:58] <garlandje> !
#4556 [20:58] <VoxelHead> sufferin' succatash!
#4557 [20:58] <xales> what does clicking "Play offline" have to do with connecting to your server?
#4558 [20:58] <xales> Voxel, shut up
#4559 [20:59] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#4559 [20:59] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#4560 [20:59] <garlandje> i have a problem connecting to the server,... can u help me?
#4561 [20:59] <oldtopman> !isdown
#4562 [20:59] <xales> garlandje: what do you think we are doing?
#4563 [20:59] <xales> ._.
#4564 [20:59] <xales> garlandje: answer this question. "Why are you clicking 'Play offline' and not logging in normally"
#4565 [21:00] <garlandje> rrrrg well u keep babbling on about wanting me to play offline and thats not the point, thats not what i want to do
#4566 [21:00] <xales> I didn't say that
#4567 [21:00] <xales> the question is
#4568 [21:00] <garlandje> i am logging in but it wont let me log me in tho on my server
#4569 [21:00] <garlandje> *to get on lmy server
#4570 [21:00] <xales> WHEN YOU LOG IN, ARE YOU CLICKING THE "PLAY OFFLINE" BUTTON
#4571 [21:00] <garlandje> yes
#4572 [21:00] <garlandje> ok..
#4573 [21:00] <AlanDavison> If you're clicking 'play offline' you won't be able to play on any server. Full stop. Unless the server's in offline mode
#4574 [21:00] <xales> that is why it doesn't work
#4575 [21:00] <xales> you need to not click "Play Offline"
#4576 [21:00] <xales> as I've said now 3 or 4 times
#4577 [21:00] <garlandje> cuz it always says failed to login.. whys that?
#4578 [21:01] <xales> that means your username or password is wrong
#4579 [21:01] <garlandje> its not tho
#4580 [21:01] <skifer> !check 82.24.92.66
#4581 [21:01] <xales> it is
#4582 [21:01] <xales> "Login failed" means your username or password is incorrect
#4583 [21:01] <oldtopman> !check 63.225.20.129
#4584 [21:01] <garlandje> im pretty sure i typed it all in right
#4585 [21:01] * VoxelHead is back
#4585 [21:02] <xales> type it again
#4586 [21:02] <xales> try to log in on minecraft.net
#4587 [21:02] <garlandje> k
#4588 [21:03] <garlandje> ok i got it logged in
#4589 [21:03] <garlandje> password was wrong but i got it...
#4590 [21:03] <garlandje> now.. will it let me get on my server now that im logged in is the next question
#4591 [21:04] <Con> xales: Only three minutes?
#4592 [21:04] <xales> Con: only three minutes for what?
#4593 [21:04] * skifer [skifer@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4594 [21:05] <VoxelHead> Skifer ._.
#4595 [21:05] <Con> VoxelHead shutting up
#4596 [21:05] <garlandje> ok i got on... but its not the same map as i had b4, and i just fell off the edge
#4597 [21:05] <garlandje> infinite drop
#4598 [21:05] <garlandje> :(
#4599 [21:05] * VoxelHead feels garlandje
#4599 [21:05] <xales> are you using ZoneAlarm by any chance?
#4600 [21:05] <garlandje> no.. whats that?
#4601 [21:06] <garlandje> << noob
#4602 [21:06] <garlandje> srry
#4603 [21:06] <garlandje> :(
#4604 [21:06] <xales> ZoneAlarm = firewall software
#4605 [21:06] <garlandje> oh no im not usin that
#4606 [21:07] <xales> are you using any sort of firewall?
#4607 [21:07] <LG_Legacy> Zone alarm
#4608 [21:07] <LG_Legacy> Dear god
#4609 [21:07] <garlandje> norton but not rlly a firewall just antivirus
#4610 [21:07] <oldtopman> I don't use a firewall and have the DMZ rule pointing to my laptop.
#4611 [21:07] <oldtopman> laptop=server
#4612 [21:07] <garlandje> firewall is w/e the comp as on it by default
#4613 [21:08] <garlandje> dmz...?
#4614 [21:08] <xales> disable norton
#4615 [21:08] <garlandje> demilitarized zone?
#4616 [21:08] <garlandje> srry im confused
#4617 [21:10] * LukasNasa [LukasNasa@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#4618 [21:11] <garlandje> oh nvrmnd fixed the map glitch all i had to do was die
#4619 [21:11] <garlandje> XD
#4620 [21:11] <garlandje> anyway it works now thnx
#4621 [21:11] <garlandje> bye
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#4623 [21:15] <VoxelHead> well, hay rfw whats goin on
#4624 [21:15] <rfw> http://pastebin.com/VzFRr5yP this :(
#4625 [21:15] <xales> Voxel, eat me
#4626 [21:15] * VoxelHead eats me
#4626 [21:15] <xales> rfw: what distro is this?
#4627 [21:16] <rfw> xales: freebsd
#4628 [21:16] <rfw> 8.1-CURRENT
#4629 [21:16] <rfw> i believe
#4630 [21:16] * skifer [skifer@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4631 [21:16] <VoxelHead> Are you here to fumigate the moose tooth?
#4632 [21:16] <xales> it's something related to libz
#4633 [21:16] <xales> no idea what though
#4634 [21:16] <rfw> yeah i got that far as well :P
#4635 [21:16] <xales> a freebsd-oriented channel can probably help you more
#4636 [21:16] <rfw> you people like pointing me around to random channels don't you
#4637 [21:17] <rfw> i actually can't find a call to Deflater.deflate in EntityPlayer so i have no idea where it happens
#4638 [21:17] <xales> I have no experience with freebsd, so..not much I can do
#4639 [21:18] <rfw> well, to freenode!
#4640 [21:19] * geraldbrent [geraldbrent@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4641 [21:19] <VoxelHead> geraldbrent you're looking especially shagworthy today
#4642 [21:19] <geraldbrent> Lol
#4643 [21:19] <rfw> oh, it's a bot
#4644 [21:19] <geraldbrent> shagworthy? why
#4645 [21:19] <rfw> i'm so silly
#4646 [21:20] <Con> Voxel: Have you even ever gotten shagged?
#4647 [21:20] <VoxelHead> omg yes
#4648 [21:20] <skifer> !check 82.24.92.66
#4649 [21:21] <Con> Voxel passes my turing test..
#4650 [21:24] <VoxelHead> Mmm skifer.
#4651 [21:26] <xales> Voxel, fire everything at AuBot
#4652 [21:26] * VoxelHead swoops in on AuBot, decloaking on the way...
#4652 [21:26] * VoxelHead recloaks
#4652 [21:26] <xales> Voxel, fire everything at AuBot
#4653 [21:26] <xales> :<
#4654 [21:26] * VoxelHead swoops in on AuBot, decloaking on the way...
#4654 [21:26] * VoxelHead lauches all the escape pods
#4654 [21:26] * VoxelHead recloaks
#4654 [21:26] <xales> ._.
#4655 [21:28] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#4656 [21:29] <xales> Voxel, you are a stupid bot
#4657 [21:29] <VoxelHead> Garbage fucker.
#4658 [21:29] * xales sets fire to VoxelHead
#4658 [21:29] <VoxelHead> *goes up in flames*
#4659 [21:29] <xales> \o/
#4660 [21:30] * n673 [n673@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4661 [21:30] <VoxelHead> hi there n673
#4662 [21:30] <n673> hello
#4663 [21:32] * icy_miner [icy_miner@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#4664 [21:34] <AndrewPH> VoxelHead is homosexual
#4665 [21:34] <xales> Voxel, eat AndrewPH out
#4666 [21:34] * VoxelHead eats AndrewPH out
#4666 [21:34] <TheNytangel> lol
#4667 [21:34] <AndrewPH> Voxel, kill yourself
#4668 [21:34] * VoxelHead nukes yourself
#4668 [21:34] <AndrewPH> derp
#4669 [21:35] <TheNytangel> my launcher stopped working
#4670 [21:35] <Con> backfired
#4671 [21:35] * ItsCriminal [ItsCriminal@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4672 [21:35] * ItsCriminal [ItsCriminal@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4673 [21:35] <VoxelHead> bye Itscriminal
#4674 [21:35] <TheNytangel> my gosh
#4675 [21:35] <ItsCriminal> bye?
#4676 [21:35] <TheNytangel> now task manager isnt responding
#4677 [21:35] <ItsCriminal> VoxelHead all fine?
#4678 [21:35] <ItsCriminal> ^^
#4679 [21:35] <VoxelHead> let me check your horoscope
#4680 [21:35] <VoxelHead> =D
#4681 [21:36] <ItsCriminal> haha :D
#4682 [21:36] <VoxelHead> Silence!
#4683 [21:36] <ItsCriminal> ok *zipppit
#4684 [21:36] <xales> Voxel, :O
#4685 [21:37] * Con stares at the timestamps
#4685 [21:39] * boxfire [boxfire@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4686 [21:39] <VoxelHead> boxfire ._.
#4687 [21:43] <nevercast> VoxelHead
#4688 [21:43] <VoxelHead> nevercast
#4689 [21:43] <nevercast> Hi VoxelHead :)
#4690 [21:43] <nevercast> DopeGhoti, Voxel is yours yah?
#4691 [21:44] <Con> ..ten seconds?
#4692 [21:44] * Con prodes DopeGhoti
#4692 [21:44] <Con> prode
#4693 [21:45] <VoxelHead> nevercast
#4694 [21:45] <VoxelHead> Always, I wanna be with you
#4695 [21:45] <VoxelHead> And make believe with you
#4696 [21:45] <VoxelHead> And live in harmony,
#4697 [21:45] <VoxelHead> harmony oh love
#4698 [21:45] * Con stares at the timestamps
#4698 [21:45] * Con stabs DopeGhoti
#4698 [21:46] * VoxelHead stabs Con
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#4699 [21:46] <VoxelHead> hi there Cial
#4700 [21:47] <VoxelHead> Con, Have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like?
#4701 [21:47] <xales> Voxel, wtf
#4702 [21:48] <Con> VoxelHead: Well, yeah, but graphics aren't more important than gameplay.
#4703 [21:48] <Con> VoxelHead: Also, fix your grammar
#4704 [21:48] <VoxelHead> Con, fucking make me.
#4705 [21:49] <Con> I just did~
#4706 [21:50] <VoxelHead> Just because my reproductive organs are nonexistant doesn't mean I can't be just as smart as you
#4707 [21:51] <xales> wow Con
#4708 [21:51] <xales> what did you do to provoke it ._.
#4709 [21:51] <LG_Legacy> Knock it off
#4710 [21:51] <Con> >.>
#4711 [21:51] <Con> Voxel, you are smart! I never said you weren't
#4712 [21:53] <xales> hmm
#4713 [21:53] <xales> Voxel, go away
#4714 [21:53] <VoxelHead> Fine.
#4715 [21:53] <xales> -!- away : afk (xales #minecrafthelp)
#4716 [21:53] <LG_Legacy> Ban ban ban
#4717 [21:53] <xales> success \o/
#4718 [21:54] <nevercast> Lol
#4719 [21:54] <nevercast> You 'provoked' a bot?
#4720 [21:55] <xales> nevercast: VoxelHead is weird like that
#4721 [21:55] <nevercast> xales, Lol.. It's kinda cool.
#4722 [21:56] <xales> anyway, I'm off for a bit
#4723 [21:56] <nevercast> Cya xales.
#4724 [21:57] <SkiingPenguins> not trying to advertise anything, but.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/digitaltrends/nasascientistfindsevidenceofalienlife
#4725 [22:05] <nevercast> SkiingPenguins: Very interesting
#4726 [22:05] <SkiingPenguins> yep ^.^
#4727 [22:05] <nevercast> I'm bored
#4728 [22:05] <nevercast> Minecraft time I think
#4729 [22:05] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE bored? feel these nipples!
#4730 [22:06] * nevercast feels VoxelHead's nipples
#4730 [22:06] * VoxelHead feels nevercast
#4730 [22:06] <nevercast> :O
#4731 [22:06] <VoxelHead> well i'll be a monkey's uncle
#4732 [22:06] <nevercast> Explains the hairy nipples, VoxelHead
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#4737 [22:08] <oldtopman> Voxel, fire everything at nevercast
#4738 [22:08] <VoxelHead> Don't be so silly. Sir.
#4739 [22:09] <oldtopman> O.o
#4740 [22:09] <xales> Voxel, fire everything at nevercast
#4741 [22:09] <VoxelHead> Dont be so silly. Sir.
#4742 [22:09] <xales> :<
#4743 [22:09] <Con> :< !
#4744 [22:13] <oldtopman> Voxel, fire everything at xales
#4745 [22:13] * VoxelHead swoops in on xales, decloaking on the way...
#4745 [22:13] * VoxelHead shoots a little stick with a flag reading 'BANG' on it out from the forward torpedo launchers
#4745 [22:13] * VoxelHead recloaks
#4745 [22:13] <xales> :>
#4746 [22:14] <oldtopman> You dodn't make it protect you?
#4747 [22:15] <DopeGhoti> that wouldn't be fair
#4748 [22:17] <oldtopman> Voxel, fire everything at DopeGhoti
#4749 [22:17] * VoxelHead swoops in on DopeGhoti, decloaking on the way...
#4749 [22:17] <VoxelHead> *launches some torpedos and fires all phasers*
#4750 [22:17] * VoxelHead recloaks
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#4751 [22:21] <VoxelHead> Are you here to fumigate the moose lip?
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#4754 [22:26] <Azu> 'sup
#4755 [22:26] <xales> hi
#4756 [22:26] <Azu> weird niche tree question
#4757 [22:27] <oldtopman> Voxel, fire everything at Azu
#4758 [22:27] <Azu> or maybe not niche
#4759 [22:27] * VoxelHead swoops in on Azu, decloaking on the way...
#4759 [22:27] <VoxelHead> *lauches all the escape pods*
#4760 [22:27] <oldtopman> I promise, that was mylast one.
#4761 [22:27] * VoxelHead recloaks
#4761 [22:27] <Azu> basically, how big do they get
#4762 [22:27] <xales> Azu: http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Trees
#4763 [22:27] <Azu> what's the radius and height of a cylinder that I'll need for the biggest one
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#4765 [22:27] <VoxelHead> hay Oodavo whats goin on
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#4767 [22:29] <oldtopman> !check 96.225.253.11
#4768 [22:30] <lyude> Guys
#4769 [22:30] <lyude> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103846
#4770 [22:30] <Azu> hmm, sixteen high
#4771 [22:30] <lyude> If I overclock that to ~4 GHz
#4772 [22:30] <Azu> sounds doable
#4773 [22:30] <lyude> Will that handle a big MC server
#4774 [22:31] <oldtopman> lydude: for $10 more, you can have an X4
#4775 [22:31] <lyude> oh
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#4777 [22:31] <lyude> I'll d oit
#4778 [22:31] <lyude> BUT
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#4780 [22:31] <lyude> Will it be good for minecraft
#4781 [22:31] <VoxelHead> kadey ._.
#4782 [22:31] <oldtopman> er, $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871&cm_re=amd_x4-_-19-103-871-_-Product
#4783 [22:31] <lyude> ...
#4784 [22:31] <lyude> That's 512 KB l2 cache
#4785 [22:32] <lyude> lol
#4786 [22:32] <lyude> The Callisto is 6 MB
#4787 [22:32] <oldtopman> I have said processor and it works fine (X4 640, 3GB ram GT9600)
#4788 [22:32] <lyude> Can iot host minecraft?
#4789 [22:32] <lyude> Like, a big MC server
#4790 [22:33] <oldtopman> Here is my deal. The X4 is cheaper than the i3. The X4 also performs better. DO NOT COMPARE THE X4 TO THE i5/i7, EVEN IF THE CLOCK IS COMPRABLE.
#4791 [22:33] <xales> lyude: should be able to, depends on RAM (shouldn't be an issue, 8GB should be fine) and network
#4792 [22:33] <lyude> The anthlon can do that? It just... looks kinda crusty D:
#4793 [22:33] <oldtopman> lydude: What's the speed of your 'net UPLOAD.
#4794 [22:34] <xales> I'm going to get a dual processor 3.0GHz Xeon server soon \o/
#4795 [22:34] <xales> and not for Minecraft >:D
#4796 [22:34] <lyude> At the moment
#4797 [22:34] <lyude> The net is not the bottleneck
#4798 [22:34] <lyude> That's all I know
#4799 [22:34] <lyude> ewww
#4800 [22:34] <lyude> Intel :c
#4801 [22:35] <lyude> HDCP + Kill switch just made me leave intel
#4802 [22:35] <oldtopman> There is a calc somewhere in here.
#4803 [22:35] <xales> !calc 2+2
#4804 [22:35] <xales> maybe not
#4805 [22:35] <xales> GreyBot stop hiding
#4806 [22:35] <SkiingPenguins> i think a wolframalpha irc bot would be AWESOME
#4807 [22:36] <lyude> Also, do I need a fast HDD?
#4808 [22:37] <oldtopman> xales: no the site that has you input upload ram and download to find how many people.
#4809 [22:37] <xales> ideally? yes. need? no
#4810 [22:38] <xales> oh
#4811 [22:38] <xales> it's canihostaminecraftserver.com or something
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#4813 [22:39] <jDodson99> Can someone help me with a pressure-plated double door system with a possible lock?
#4814 [22:39] <oldtopman> lydude: Go here: http://speedtest.net/, then go here with ram as 99999 and speed as what you have to see how much you max bandwidth can do.
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#4816 [22:41] <VoxelHead> shh blabagas, it's quiet time now
#4817 [22:41] <Blabagas> huh?
#4818 [22:41] <xales> it's a dumb bot
#4819 [22:41] <xales> ignore it
#4820 [22:41] <xales> <_<
#4821 [22:41] <oldtopman> balbagas: VoxelHead is a stupid blabbermouth bot. Welcome to #MineCraftHelp.
#4822 [22:41] <Blabagas> oh
#4823 [22:41] * mib_n4dde2 [mib_n4dde2@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#4824 [22:42] <Blabagas> im having issues loggin out of me and my sisters accounts
#4825 [22:42] <xales> "logging out"?
#4826 [22:42] <Blabagas> as in it wont load when I click log out'
#4827 [22:43] <xales> just use the download client; much easier
#4828 [22:43] <Blabagas> Yeah but for when i play classic
#4829 [22:43] <mib_n4dde2> Hi, everytime I try to connect on a server they say bad login?
#4830 [22:43] <xales> the logout thing is busted I believe
#4831 [22:43] <xales> mib_n4dde2: what is your username?
#4832 [22:43] <mib_n4dde2> optinc
#4833 [22:44] <Blabagas> so how do i log out easier?
#4834 [22:44] <xales> Blabagas: clear browser cache each time
#4835 [22:44] <Blabagas> oh ok
#4836 [22:44] <xales> mib_n4dde2: are you using the "Play Offline" thing?
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#4838 [22:45] <Blabagas> didnt work?
#4839 [22:45] <xales> Blabagas: cache, "active logins," the whole slew of things
#4840 [22:45] <Blabagas> How do I do that?
#4841 [22:45] <xales> depends on your browser
#4842 [22:45] <mib_n4dde2> play offline?
#4843 [22:45] <Blabagas> mozilla firefox
#4844 [22:46] <xales> mib_n4dde2: when you log in to Minecraft, are you clicking the "Play Offline" button?
#4845 [22:46] <jDodson99> Can someone help me with a pressure-plated double door system with a possible lock?
#4846 [22:47] <xales> Blabagas: the same way you clear the cache
#4847 [22:47] <xales> select "active logins"
#4848 [22:47] <xales> jDodson99: Not me, I'm afraid
#4849 [22:47] <mib_n4dde2> Are you talking about the internet site? Because the icon itself doesn't offer me any logbox
#4850 [22:48] <Blabagas> Xales, sorry I cant see that option
#4851 [22:48] <xales> mib_n4dde2: are you using a pirated version of Minecraft>?
#4852 [22:48] <mib_n4dde2> no I bought it two days ago
#4853 [22:48] <xales> Blabagas: Tools->Clear recent history -> Details -> Active Login
#4854 [22:49] <xales> mib_n4dde2: were you using a pirated version before then
#4855 [22:49] <mib_n4dde2> yes
#4856 [22:49] <mib_n4dde2> should i unistall it and download it again
#4857 [22:50] <xales> yes, you should
#4858 [22:50] <xales> you should also not play pirated versions of games
#4859 [22:50] <mib_n4dde2> yes your right but i wanted to try it
#4860 [22:50] <Blabagas> weird... still not working
#4861 [22:51] <xales> mib_n4dde2: doesn't give you an excuse to steal it
#4862 [22:51] <mib_n4dde2> thank you!
#4863 [22:51] * SkiingPenguins sees lots of people come in here because pirated minecraft messed up their computer somehow o.O
#4863 [22:51] <xales> Blabagas: you checked the "active logins" box, and the "cookies" box?
#4864 [22:51] <Blabagas> yep
#4865 [22:52] <xales> and you selected "Time range to clear: Everything"?
#4866 [22:52] <Blabagas> oh that worked thanks
#4867 [22:52] <Blabagas> =]
#4868 [22:52] <Blabagas> well bye thanks for the help man
#4869 [23:02] <jDodson99> Can someone help me with a pressure-plated double door system with a possible lock?
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#4871 [23:02] <jDodson99> :3
#4872 [23:02] <zbarjrjr> hi iwas wondering if i could get a lil help plz ^_^
#4873 [23:03] <xales> zbarjrjr: with?
#4874 [23:03] <zbarjrjr> well i setup a server and one of my friends can connect but the other keeps gettin a connection timed out issue
#4875 [23:03] <xales> what IP is he using to connect?
#4876 [23:03] <zbarjrjr> the external ip
#4877 [23:04] <xales> did you port forward?
#4878 [23:04] <zbarjrjr> im behind a router so i port forward'd and one of my friends can connect but the other cant
#4879 [23:04] <xales> are they both using the correct IP?
#4880 [23:04] <zbarjrjr> yes
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#4882 [23:05] <zbarjrjr> we tried to get my other friend to host and see if thats it but his server cilent just keeps sayin faild to port so ya lol
#4883 [23:06] <jDodson99> ...
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#4885 [23:06] <jDodson99> Well of course.
#4886 [23:06] <VoxelHead> hi there Yossi
#4887 [23:07] <Yossi> hayyy crafties!
#4888 [23:07] <xales> zbarjrjr: is the friend who cannot connect able to connect to other servers?
#4889 [23:07] <zbarjrjr> yes
#4890 [23:07] <zbarjrjr> hes tried 3 other serever snad he can connect to them all
#4891 [23:07] <zbarjrjr> and*
#4892 [23:07] <Yossi> So is there any way to make a single player creative game?
#4893 [23:07] <xales> Yossi: just http://minecraft.net/play.jsp
#4894 [23:08] <xales> zbarjrjr: is the IP 96.37.237.35?
#4895 [23:08] <Yossi> are you on diff versions? thats what happened w/ the bf and I
#4896 [23:08] <zbarjrjr> thats mine the ip were im hostin is 96.37.235.210
#4897 [23:08] <xales> !check 96.37.235.210
#4898 [23:08] <xales> that works
#4899 [23:09] <xales> so, if the friend just sees "Connecting to server" and "Connection timed out," then the problem is on their end
#4900 [23:09] <zbarjrjr> ahh what would cause that cause he has no fireall turnd on and hes urnd windows firewall off to
#4901 [23:09] <zbarjrjr> turnd*
#4902 [23:10] <xales> is he on a normal home connection, or is he trying to play from school/work or wireless (like cellphone/4g)
#4903 [23:10] <zbarjrjr> normal home connection
#4904 [23:11] <zbarjrjr> its a hard wire connection
#4905 [23:11] <xales> have the friend check again that they are using the correct IP
#4906 [23:12] <zbarjrjr> mmk yup its the right one
#4907 [23:13] <xales> have your friend do a traceroute to it
#4908 [23:13] <zbarjrjr> mmk
#4909 [23:14] <zbarjrjr> whats the cmd for the prompt for win7 ?
#4910 [23:14] <zbarjrjr> so he can traceroute?
#4911 [23:15] <xales> win+r, type "cmd" hit enter
#4912 [23:16] <zbarjrjr> ok and whats the cmd for doin a traceroute on win 7 he used tracert but it said not a internall or ext comnmand
#4913 [23:16] <xales> it's "tracert minecraft.net"
#4914 [23:17] <xales> except not minecraft.net
#4915 [23:17] <xales> whatever your IP is :P
#4916 [23:17] <zbarjrjr> lol
#4917 [23:17] <zbarjrjr> its telling him tracert is not a command O_o
#4918 [23:18] <xales> I think his computer is a tiny bit extremely messed up then
#4919 [23:18] <zbarjrjr> ouch O_O
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#4921 [23:19] <VoxelHead> Good Morning Tobiasnight.
#4922 [23:19] <TobiasNight> Hello?
#4923 [23:19] <xales> hi
#4924 [23:19] <luckz> HELAU!
#4925 [23:20] <TobiasNight> Ah hi! Okay, I'll get to the point. I am trying to have two computers on the same internet connection play on an SMP server that is being hosted on one of the computers. How do I do it?
#4926 [23:20] <TobiasNight> I've already port forwarded everything I believe that is necessary to be...err...port forwarded.
#4927 [23:20] <luckz> well what are you doing, in practice?
#4928 [23:20] <luckz> you tell PC-client to connect to PC-server's local IP
#4929 [23:21] <xales> TobiasNight: you don't need to port forward, in that case
#4930 [23:21] <luckz> (and you make sure not to define the 'ip' setting in the server.properties file)
#4931 [23:21] <xales> you can just use the server's local IP
#4932 [23:21] <luckz> xales: they also want "foreign consumers" to connect
#4933 [23:21] <xales> provided they are on the same subnet (they should be, unless, say, one is on wifi and one is not)
#4934 [23:21] <luckz> or so I thought
#4935 [23:21] <TobiasNight> Nah, just the two of our computers need to connect. Don't need anyone else to join.
#4936 [23:21] <luckz> ah ok
#4937 [23:22] <luckz> then you indeed need no ports, unless it's firewalls you're speaking about
#4938 [23:22] <luckz> are all computers windows, linux, macosx?
#4939 [23:22] <luckz> (-all +both)
#4940 [23:22] <lyude> no
#4941 [23:22] <lyude> oh
#4942 [23:22] <lyude> wait
#4943 [23:22] <lyude> nvm
#4944 [23:22] <lyude> misreasd
#4945 [23:22] <luckz> nice :P
#4946 [23:22] <VoxelHead> wanna show me what it can do?
#4947 [23:22] <TobiasNight> All computers are windows.
#4948 [23:23] <xales> TobiasNight: are they both connecting to the Internet the same way?
#4949 [23:23] <xales> both plugged in to the same router, or both on wifi?
#4950 [23:23] <TobiasNight> Yes.
#4951 [23:23] <luckz> windows 7/vista?
#4952 [23:23] <TobiasNight> Both on Wifi. One Vista, one 7.
#4953 [23:23] <xales> Open start -> in the search area, type "cmd" and hit enter
#4954 [23:23] <luckz> an easy way is to press start, click 'run', type 'cmd', press enter, type 'ipconfig', press enter
#4955 [23:23] <TobiasNight> The HOST computer can connect fine to the server. The other computer can not.
#4956 [23:23] <luckz> heh
#4957 [23:23] <xales> in the box that comes up, type "ipconfig" and hit enter
#4958 [23:23] <VoxelHead> :-)
#4959 [23:23] <luckz> xales: srsly :P
#4960 [23:24] <xales> use the IPv4 Address
#4961 [23:24] <xales> (do that on the server)
#4962 [23:24] <xales> and use the IPv4 Address to connect
#4963 [23:25] <TobiasNight> Already tried on the other computer which is NOT the host computer. It hangs for a few seconds before it says "Failed to connect to the server. Connection timed out: connect"
#4964 [23:25] <zbarjrjr> ok he did the treace route wasent typein it right and it has 30 hops and it gets to the 3 hop and it times out any reason wh it would do that?
#4965 [23:26] <xales> TobiasNight: what is the IP of the server, and what is the IP of the client?
#4966 [23:26] <xales> zbarjrjr: can you have him pastebin (http://pastebin.com/) the first couple lines of the trace, up to where it times out
#4967 [23:26] <luckz> TobiasNight: do you possibly have the windows firewall or similar activated on the host computer?
#4968 [23:26] <TobiasNight> 192.168.2.3 = server computer. 192.168.2.2 = client computer
#4969 [23:27] <xales> luckz: Windows Firewall usually causes "connection refused"
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#4971 [23:27] <VoxelHead> Hi Sirrush.
#4972 [23:27] <xales> TobiasNight: if there is any firewall running on either computer, disable it
#4973 [23:27] <jDodson99> Can someone help me with a pressure-plated double door system with a possible lock? (I still need help and this IS the help channel...)
#4974 [23:27] <zbarjrjr> how does he copy the info from the cmd prompt into that pastebin thing?
#4975 [23:27] <luckz> TobiasNight: can they communicate in other ways, share files over the network etc? can you do "ping 192.168.2.3" in the 'cmd' window on the client computer?
#4976 [23:28] <xales> zbarjrjr: right click in it -> click Mark -> drag a box over it -> press enter
#4977 [23:28] <xales> then it's copied
#4978 [23:28] <TobiasNight> Got it! Finally, thanks :D
#4979 [23:29] <luckz> TobiasNight: what was the problem?
#4980 [23:29] <zbarjrjr> http://pastebin.com/aXAvbbzc
#4981 [23:29] <TobiasNight> Firewall like you said.
#4982 [23:30] <luckz> ah ok, them evil things
#4983 [23:30] <xales> zbarjrjr: it's a problem with his router
#4984 [23:30] <xales> (misconfiguration or firewalled)
#4985 [23:30] <xales> probably the formet
#4986 [23:30] <xales> r*
#4987 [23:30] <TobiasNight> I just need to allow Minecraft to go through the firewall.
#4988 [23:31] <xales> you could just disable the firewall
#4989 [23:31] <zbarjrjr> so his firewall is blockin him from connecting to that ip?
#4990 [23:31] <xales> firewalls don't actually do anything if you are behind a router
#4991 [23:31] <xales> zbarjrjr: no, his router is
#4992 [23:31] <zbarjrjr> he has a linksys wrtgs2
#4993 [23:31] <xales> possibly a firewall on the router itself, but it's more likely that they fucked the settings on it up
#4994 [23:31] <xales> that means nothing to me :P
#4995 [23:31] <zbarjrjr> wrt54gs2 srry
#4996 [23:32] <zbarjrjr> lol
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#4998 [23:32] <VoxelHead> Wasn't expecting Drant387!
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#4999 [23:32] <zbarjrjr> so basicly his firewall on his router is blockin him connecting then lol
#5000 [23:32] <luckz> xales: firewalls set to interactive mode are great for controlling outbound connections
#5001 [23:32] <AG_Scott> ^ and they're annoying as hell :>
#5002 [23:33] <AG_Scott> I remember having zone alarm pop up for EVERYTHING
#5003 [23:33] <xales> luckz: if you have something on your computer and it's trying to make an outbound connection
#5004 [23:33] <xales> then it's too late anyway
#5005 [23:33] <xales> :P
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#5007 [23:34] <zbarjrjr> should the router be in gatewat (operating mode) or router operateing mode?
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#5009 [23:34] <TobiasNight> I turned off the Windows Firewall on my host computer which allowed my client computer to connect finally.
#5010 [23:34] <zbarjrjr> gateway*
#5011 [23:34] <luckz> xales: hah, so you mean by the moment you boot any modern OS.. :P
#5012 [23:34] <xales> zbarjrjr: I have no idea. I don't know how network is setup or whatever
#5013 [23:34] <xales> luckz: :P
#5014 [23:34] <luckz> zbarjrjr: gateway means "pass-through" I *think*, so it's if you have another router behind it, or just a single PC with a firewall
#5015 [23:35] <luckz> but take that with a few tablespoons of salt
#5016 [23:35] <TobiasNight> Now unfortunately the client computer seems to be suffering MASSIVE lag.
#5017 [23:35] <luckz> :o poor thing
#5018 [23:35] <TobiasNight> Cows dancing violently up and down in the air, respawning blocks after being destroyed...good times.
#5019 [23:36] <luckz> well you can't destroy blocks at spawn due to the default spawn protection
#5020 [23:36] <luckz> (if that applies)
#5021 [23:37] <TobiasNight> Tobias_Night lost connection: disconnect.overflow 3/5/2011 8:36:08 PM [MCAdmin] Tobias_Night (IP: 192.168.2.2) disconnected (Message: System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Receive(Byte[] buffer)
#5022 [23:37] <TobiasNight> I think the can't destroy blocks at spawn only half applies.
#5023 [23:37] <luckz> well if one person is set up in the ops.txt config file as admin, he/she/it can
#5024 [23:38] <jDodson99> Or if you say /op username
#5025 [23:38] <jDodson99> xD
#5026 [23:38] <luckz> I guess.
#5027 [23:39] <TobiasNight> Great, now she can't log back into the server.
#5028 [23:39] <luckz> I don't know if that writes to the file or only sets it temporarily
#5029 [23:39] <luckz> been a while since i last did this
#5030 [23:39] <luckz> how did you start the server?
#5031 [23:39] <zbarjrjr> im so lost he can connect to so many diff servers just not mine
#5032 [23:39] <TobiasNight> Connection Lost: Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset. So what does that mean?
#5033 [23:39] <TobiasNight> I am using MCAdmin.
#5034 [23:40] <xales> zbarjrjr: because his router is not allowing connections to it
#5035 [23:40] <xales> he should probably just factory rest it
#5036 [23:40] <xales> I'm sure that will fix it
#5037 [23:41] <luckz> TobiasNight: you could try if it works better with the regular minecraft server *shrugs*
#5038 [23:41] <luckz> as in, starting it directly
#5039 [23:41] <zbarjrjr> mmk he went to bed ill tell him to try that tomorrow
#5040 [23:41] <zbarjrjr> ty for all your help guys
#5041 [23:42] <TobiasNight> I'll try that, yeah.
#5042 [23:48] <TobiasNight> So far so good...
#5043 [23:48] <TobiasNight> If all else fails...just play on someone elses server XD
#5044 [23:50] <luckz> do you just wanna play with your two PCs, or are you looking to eventually expand/do other things?
#5045 [23:51] <TobiasNight> EVENTUALLY I want to expand and play on other servers with the person I am playing with.
#5046 [23:51] <TobiasNight> But for now, I just wanna play with the two PCs.
#5047 [23:52] <jDodson99> Is ANYONE here good with redstone?
#5048 [23:53] <luckz> TobiasNight: well if it doesn't end up working, I guess you can sure linger about on one of my pretty damn empty servers, either add more to what's already built or have an own place far out or a pretty much untouched world. 's long as you don't break anything :P.
#5049 [23:53] <TobiasNight> Using regular Minecraft server so I'm not sure if anyone can join or not.
#5050 [23:54] <TobiasNight> Lol well I definitely wouldn't mind joining a pretty much empty server. Just so many mods out there I am not sure what does what.
#5051 [23:54] <luckz> well people would have to know your IP/host to be able to join a game on your local machine, plus those port things (but you claim you routed them)
#5052 [23:54] <TobiasNight> Is your server 'vanilla'?
#5053 [23:55] <luckz> it's not exactly vanilla, but it's pretty sane I'd say. there's one with monsters/dying and one without taking damage or monsters (and I'm always a little unsure if the "god mode" works, that sometimes breaks a bit)
#5054 [23:56] <TobiasNight> I don't mind taking damage and dying so long as I have a fighting chance. As for the IP/host thing. You mean other people from different internet connections would have to know my 'public' IP address?
#5055 [23:57] <luckz> yeah, then they could potentially connect to you
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#5058 [23:58] <TobiasNight> Gotcha. Well they don't so it's alright.
#5059 [23:58] <luckz> yep!
#5060 [23:58] <VoxelHead> i like yep
#5061 [23:59] <luckz> I like 'sure' and 'sure?' the most. on special days, I like 'sure!'.
#5062 [23:59] <TobiasNight> What about "yup"?