#1 [00:00] <luckz> yup is better than yep, most of the time
#2 [00:00] <TobiasNight> Indeed. Lol, my g/f just sealed herself in a tiny little cave when it got dark because I told her the monsters would come out soon. Unfortunately we don't know when it'll be light again XD
#3 [00:01] <luckz> but any form of "sure" has this potentially confusing effect on the audience, of them taking it not as "yes!" but as "are you sure?", or even weirder things
#4 [00:01] <luckz> if you had magic tools you could build beds to skip the night, but
#5 [00:02] <TobiasNight> Lol yeeeeah, complete N00BS to this game. We don't even know how to make FIRE.
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#7 [00:04] <VoxelHead> Shh Momokitty, it's quiet time now.
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#9 [00:05] <luckz> TobiasNight: I'm a big fan of http://dl.dropbox.com/u/103638/1286200338062-howtominecraft.jpg ;p
#10 [00:05] <TobiasNight> Hey Luckz, so what is your server address?
#11 [00:06] <luckz> (but it's half a year old)
#12 [00:06] <luckz> TobiasNight: I told you in magic private message form
#13 [00:06] <TobiasNight> Ah! Did not scroll up XD
#14 [00:06] <Momokitty> I have a shitty mac, anyways I died and well .. I was at my spawn point me being an idiot I built my house a million miles away from it. I tried to download cartographer and minetographer but no such luck with this computer... halp?
#15 [00:06] <luckz> but now I need to slowly yet surely start snoring too, like the girlfriend has been doing for.. sheesh, 3-4 hours
#16 [00:07] <luckz> it's six in the morning, a pretty unholy time to be awake
#17 [00:07] <luckz> Momokitty: what's the exact problem? downloading mapping things?
#18 [00:07] <TobiasNight> Yeah, I have to wake up at 5AM >.>
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#20 [00:15] <VoxelHead> mmm sesopenko
#21 [00:16] <jDodson99> Momokitty, use Minutor. It's not great, but it works. It also gives you the coords of the block you're mousing over, and the type, and lets you view specific layers.
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#23 [00:18] <VoxelHead> Uh oh, it's sirrush.
#24 [00:25] <xolotl> Bah, he left; was going to recommend http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=54784&p=877865
#25 [00:25] <xolotl> Which I always thought looked neat
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#27 [00:25] <VoxelHead> r ieks, mr_help
#28 [00:25] <xolotl> (but not having a Mac I've not had the opportunity to try
#29 [00:26] <mr_help> ?
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#31 [00:38] <VoxelHead> sup AndrewPH
#32 [00:39] <AndrewPH> sup nerd
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#34 [00:43] <Godfiend> My game was running fine till last night, now I can't even load my files because it's running too slow. Any ideas?
#35 [00:44] <xales> Godfiend: any other programs open?
#36 [00:45] <Godfiend> Well, yes, lots, but it's never affected anything before.
#37 [00:46] <xales> try closing them
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#39 [00:49] <VoxelHead> lol l@@k its blackpawn
#40 [00:49] <Godfiend> Hmm, after about 2 minutes I'm able to load my game.
#41 [00:49] <Godfiend> So I guess minecraft now needs both cores and 4 gigs of ram?
#42 [00:49] <BlackPawn> Is this the right place for tech support (not about minecraft.net being down)?
#43 [00:50] <xales> BlackPawn: correct
#44 [00:50] <xales> .motd [disabled]
#45 [00:50] <M> Disabling MOTD
#46 [00:50] <xales> forgot about that
#47 [00:50] <BlackPawn> ok, so I have this problem...
#48 [00:51] <Godfiend> I set all my graphics to minimum settings, it's still unplayable.
#49 [00:51] <BlackPawn> I'd just finished making my first monster generator last night and minecraft froze, actually it took out my whole OS and I had to reboot...save was corrupt
#50 [00:52] <xales> Godfiend: restart computer, try playing Minecraft before you open any other applications
#51 [00:52] <BlackPawn> So I made a backup and started a new game in the same slot and spawned 15m from my old spawn and everything was ok...but then weirdness.
#52 [00:52] <BlackPawn> Monsters no longer spawn in caverns and maybe not in dungeons either.
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#54 [00:52] <BlackPawn> They spawn above ground at night but will not spawn in previously explored/built caverns.
#55 [00:52] <BlackPawn> What to do?
#56 [00:53] <xales> yeah, there is quite a bit of weird stuff when you try to play on a slot that got corrupted
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#58 [00:54] <BlackPawn> Is there any known way to fix that issue? Or a different way to restore the world that avoids it?
#59 [00:54] <cocoa647> hey, doe anybody know where i can learn to mod with odloader?
#60 [00:54] <cocoa647> *modloader
#61 [00:54] <xales> BlackPawn: try just deleting the save entirely
#62 [00:54] <xales> open the backup with mcedit, and resave it
#63 [00:54] <xales> cocoa647: #risucraft
#64 [00:54] <cocoa647> thatnk you
#65 [00:54] <VoxelHead> thatnk you... thou
#66 [00:55] <BlackPawn> ok, I'll give that a go. Thanks.
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#68 [01:02] <VoxelHead> i like them =]
#69 [01:03] <xales> D:
#70 [01:07] <mr_help> sigh, minecraft beta server still practically unplayable
#71 [01:07] <mr_help> for me anyway
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#74 [01:10] <VoxelHead> GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD!
#75 [01:11] <BlackPawn> I sit around on behold for much longer, you better get to the point.
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#77 [01:14] <smalls> hey, is there a special way to take a screenshot?
#78 [01:14] <DopeGhoti> F1+F2
#79 [01:14] <xales> F1+F2
#80 [01:14] <VoxelHead> SNAP!
#81 [01:14] <xales> ._.
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#83 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: what?
#84 [01:15] <VoxelHead> welcome to our next contestant, Yossi!
#85 [01:15] <VoxelHead> some string
#86 [01:15] <Yossi> Oh tell me I can win a car!
#87 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> Yossi: that's LittleBigPlanet, not Minecraft (:
#88 [01:15] <smalls> k thanks
#89 [01:15] <Yossi> screw this… i'll just build a car
#90 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> that's the spirit!
#91 [01:15] <xolotl> xales: You shoudl hook VoxelHead up with a megaHAL plugin
#92 [01:15] <Yossi> #nowthatsminecraft
#93 [01:16] <xolotl> s/shoudl/should/
#94 [01:16] <xales> xolotl: not my bot
#95 [01:16] <Kealper> lol Yossi
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#97 [01:16] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =[
#98 [01:16] <xolotl> s/xales: You/Somebody/
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#100 [01:16] <xales> :{
#101 [01:16] <xales> :P rather
#102 [01:16] <Yossi> can someone point me in the direction of a mod resource?
#103 [01:16] <DopeGhoti> ??> Yossi mods
#104 [01:16] <xales> ??> Yossi mods
#105 [01:16] <VoxelHead> Yossi: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#106 [01:16] <VoxelHead> Yossi: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#107 [01:16] <xales> ._.
#108 [01:16] <Kealper> ninja'd
#109 [01:17] <Yossi> well now, i didnt need support, i just dont know what theyre all about, mr bot response
#110 [01:17] <DopeGhoti> also, yay, the ninja controls work (:
#111 [01:17] <xales> Kealper, ever played Dwarf Fortress?
#112 [01:17] <DopeGhoti> Yossi: the intent was the channels and URLs in the response, which are the answers to your question
#113 [01:18] <Kealper> xales: sadly, i have not.....although i've kinda wanted to try it
#114 [01:18] <xales> I should teach you how to play :P
#115 [01:18] <xales> Dwarf fortress learning curve:
#116 [01:18] <xales> |
#117 [01:18] <xales> |
#118 [01:18] <xales> |
#119 [01:18] <xales> |
#120 [01:18] <xales> __________
#121 [01:18] <DopeGhoti> xales: Here you see a leather Kealper. It menaces with spikes of leather. On the Kealper is an engraving. The engraving is of a dwarf. The dwarf is striking down a VoxelHead.
#122 [01:18] <xales> DopeGhoti: :P
#123 [01:19] <Kealper> i feel i just missed an epic inside joke that involves dialog in DF
#124 [01:19] <xales> DopeGhoti: http://darksigns.net/pwnt.jpg
#125 [01:19] <DopeGhoti> s/dialog/procedurally-generated artifacts/
#126 [01:19] <xales> Kealper: yes
#127 [01:19] <xales> Kealper: http://darksigns.net/pwnt.jpg
#128 [01:20] <Yossi> Well, I figured that, I just had to be a little sassy.
#129 [01:21] <DopeGhoti> We don't take kindly to sass 'round these parts.
#130 [01:21] <Kealper> sassy......no male says that word....
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#132 [01:21] <DopeGhoti> Vox, courtmartial Yossi
#133 [01:21] <VoxelHead> hay nevercast whats goin on
#134 [01:21] <xales> Vox, no
#135 [01:21] <xales> :<
#136 [01:21] <VoxelHead> *throws yossi in the brig to await charges*
#137 [01:21] <xales> :O
#138 [01:21] <xales> D:
#139 [01:21] <VoxelHead> Sacrebleu!
#140 [01:21] <xales> Vox, activate newb detectors
#141 [01:21] <Kealper> HERE YE, HERE YE! I NOW INVOKE YE OLDE RULE NUMBRE 34!
#142 [01:21] * VoxelHead looks at Tris
#142 [01:21] <VoxelHead> Newb "levels" of 10 percent detected.
#143 [01:21] <VoxelHead> so, like, yossi, you are charged with exploding the Kazon, and setting fire to the holodeck
#144 [01:21] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to listen to an album by Olivia Newton-John. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#145 [01:22] <nevercast> LOL
#146 [01:22] <nevercast> fair enough punishmenbt
#147 [01:22] <nevercast> *punishment
#148 [01:22] <Kealper> setting fire to the holodeck? that deserves far worse punishment!
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#150 [01:24] <VoxelHead> are you here to fumigate the moose head?
#151 [01:24] <DopeGhoti> Not really; the holodeck is probably the most villainous piece of hardware this side of the Warp Core Ejectors, which are apparently wired to go offline whenever a ship goes to Red Alert.
#152 [01:24] <xales> Vox, are you?
#153 [01:24] <VoxelHead> Yes
#154 [01:24] <VoxelHead> wait! i mean no.
#155 [01:24] <xales> ._.
#156 [01:24] <xales> DopeGhoti: Blue Alert :3
#157 [01:25] <Yossi> Wow, so to return, I avoid courtmarshall with this phrase: I have an innie, not an outtie.
#158 [01:25] <Kealper> O.o
#159 [01:25] <Yossi> Thus I am free to sass and mention sassery with my XX chromosomes a-blazing
#160 [01:26] <Kealper> two X chromosomes?! that's like.....one more than most people have in here! amazing!
#161 [01:27] <Yossi> +1 internets
#162 [01:27] <xales> -1 internets
#163 [01:28] <Kealper> i think i'll nerd out and add binary file transfer to my chat program
#164 [01:28] <xales> not particularly hard
#165 [01:29] <Kealper> meh, i had to do a lot of work to get my chat server ready for it
#166 [01:29] <Yossi> bluh, I'm running Mac 10.6.6 and am curious to see some of the .png files mentioned in the wiki but I dont really know where to… find them
#167 [01:29] <Kealper> more work on the way it buffers incomming packets before it processes them, to make it so it's still responsive to everyone even while under a DDoS of messages
#168 [01:31] <Kealper> (yes, i just got done testing that with about 100 spambots aimed at one very brave recieving bot)
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#171 [01:33] <VoxelHead> hay darks
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#173 [01:38] <mib_n1ymsj> Can someone help me? when trying to play minecraft i get an error.
#174 [01:38] <Kealper> ?? specific
#175 [01:38] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#176 [01:38] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#177 [01:38] <mib_n1ymsj> Pastebin?
#178 [01:38] <nevercast> pastebin.com
#179 [01:39] <mib_n1ymsj> http://pastebin.com/0Yredpe3
#180 [01:40] <xales> update your video card drivers
#181 [01:40] <mib_n1ymsj> I cant update them
#182 [01:40] <Kealper> dang, xales beat me to it
#183 [01:40] <Kealper> http://nvidia.com
#184 [01:40] <xales> and why can't you?
#185 [01:40] <mib_n1ymsj> I lose performance on my computer.
#186 [01:40] <mib_n1ymsj> I talked to nvidiqa customer support and they sai to kee the original drivers that the GPU came with
#187 [01:40] <xales> then you are installing the wrong driver
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#189 [01:40] <xales> or you are installing it incorrectly
#190 [01:41] <xales> either way; if you want to play Minecraft, that is what you must do
#191 [01:41] <Yossi> it seems youre losing performance on your computer one way or another, if you cant play games
#192 [01:41] <mib_n1ymsj> Well can you tell me what driver i should get then?
#193 [01:41] <mib_n1ymsj> Everytime i update, im stuck in 8 BIT 640x480 resolution...
#194 [01:41] <xales> Then you are installing the wrong driver, or incorrectly, as I said
#195 [01:41] <mib_n1ymsj> Can you help me then?
#196 [01:42] <xales> No, that's outside the scope of this channel
#197 [01:42] <xales> ask NVidia's customer support
#198 [01:42] <Kealper> fine, i'll be nice
#199 [01:42] <mib_n1ymsj> I alright did lol
#200 [01:42] <xales> if they can't help, you are probably SOL
#201 [01:42] <Kealper> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-266.58-whql-driver.html
#202 [01:42] <mib_n1ymsj> sol?
#203 [01:42] <xales> google it ._.
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#205 [01:43] <mib_n1ymsj> Keapler is that for WIn xp 32 bit?
#206 [01:43] <Kealper> it's Kealper and yes, that is the one that should work
#207 [01:44] <mib_n1ymsj> Alright il try again, but im pretty sure My computer will just get mest up again :\
#208 [01:45] <Kealper> if that messes up a geforce 580 then it's time to think about reinstalling windows ._.
#209 [01:45] <mib_n1ymsj> i have tried re-installing too
#210 [01:45] <mib_n1ymsj> didnt help
#211 [01:45] <xales> the card is possibly in low-power mode or something
#212 [01:45] <Kealper> have you tried something more....modern, like Windows 7? XP is ancient now :/
#213 [01:45] <xales> ^
#214 [01:45] <mib_n1ymsj> Should i just let it install it for me or custom?
#215 [01:46] <Kealper> install for you
#216 [01:46] <Kealper> it's defaults are what most people would require
#217 [01:46] <mib_n1ymsj> yeah im pretty sure somthings wrong with my computer
#218 [01:46] <mib_n1ymsj> i was playing an ancient game and i can somtimes get like 40 FPS lol
#219 [01:47] <Kealper> O.o
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#221 [01:47] <mib_n1ymsj> im gunna restart computer
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#223 [01:50] <mib_cvltmt> alright back.
#224 [01:50] <Kealper> that was fast
#225 [01:50] <mib_cvltmt> Im guessing its working
#226 [01:50] <mib_cvltmt> since i dont have 8bit crap
#227 [01:51] <mib_cvltmt> can you tell me how to play Survival?
#228 [01:51] <mib_cvltmt> is that considered "singleplayer"?
#229 [01:51] <Kealper> !tutorial
#230 [01:51] <mib_cvltmt> !tutorial
#231 [01:51] <mib_cvltmt> o
#232 [01:51] <Kealper> that video is a must-see for any new minecrafters :o
#233 [01:52] <mib_cvltmt> thanks :)
#234 [01:52] <Kealper> so i assume it's working now?
#235 [01:52] <mib_cvltmt> one more question: can i play in fullscreen? or am i stuck in a super small screen
#236 [01:52] <mib_cvltmt> yeah its working
#237 [01:52] <Kealper> are you using the downloaded client or in browser?
#238 [01:52] <mib_cvltmt> download
#239 [01:53] <Kealper> easy way is just press the maximize button for ghetto fullscreen
#240 [01:53] <xales> you can also just press F11
#241 [01:53] <Kealper> if you want real fullscreen, press F11 while ingame, but that is a tad buggy when you go back to normal resolution
#242 [01:53] <mib_cvltmt> ohh
#243 [01:53] <mib_cvltmt> it kinda feels like im lagging graphically lol
#244 [01:54] <Kealper> did you just create a world?
#245 [01:54] <xales> how much RAM does the computer have, as well?
#246 [01:54] <Kealper> because it will lag a bit after you just create a world, since it is still generating it
#247 [01:55] <mib_cvltmt> yeah
#248 [01:55] <mib_cvltmt> i did
#249 [01:55] <mib_cvltmt> I have 4gb
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#252 [01:56] <VoxelHead> ieks, BlackPawn
#253 [01:56] <Helpneeded> hello?
#254 [01:56] <Kealper> hey everyone, i think that guy needs help!
#255 [01:57] <BlackPawn> It's possible.
#256 [01:57] <Helpneeded> =P yeah yeah, glad that got noticed
#257 [01:57] <Helpneeded> I want to download minecraft, but I can't find out how much memory it takes =\
#258 [01:57] <BlackPawn> Xales suggested that I install MCEdit and resave my game...so I have mcedit installed now and am just trying to work out how to use it...
#259 [01:58] <xales> Helpneeded: the game itself?
#260 [01:58] <Helpneeded> does anyone know where I can find that?
#261 [01:58] <Kealper> well, you should have atleast 1.5GB of ram total with windows XP and lower, and 2GB total for Vista and 7
#262 [01:58] <mib_cvltmt> Its about 300k
#263 [01:58] <xales> Helpneeded: Minecraft uses virtually no disk space
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#265 [01:58] <VoxelHead> Good Morning Sirrush
#266 [01:58] <xales> it technically doesn't even install anything
#267 [01:58] <VoxelHead> The best kind of doesn
#268 [01:58] <Kealper> wait....
#269 [01:58] <Kealper> what memory are we talking about here? ram or hdd space?
#270 [01:59] <feenyx> memory != disk space
#271 [01:59] <Kealper> feenyx: i know that, many don't
#272 [01:59] <feenyx> I salute you :)
#273 [01:59] <xales> I get the feeling it's disk space
#274 [01:59] <feenyx> They're the same people that point to the tower and call it "The hard drive"
#275 [01:59] <xales> (stuff about how much memory Minecraft needs is everywhere)
#276 [02:00] <xales> feenyx: don't they typically call it the CPU? =/
#277 [02:00] <Kealper> as for disk space, Minecraft itself needs about 30-50MB, but your savegaves could get a tad heavy if you've played them a while
#278 [02:00] <feenyx> xales: in my native language, it's usually the former, but I hear "CPU" is quite common in English-speaking countries :)
#279 [02:00] <Helpneeded> not to look impatient, but.. anyone?
#280 [02:00] <xales> feenyx: ah, right
#281 [02:01] <Kealper> Helpneeded: we just answered you in every way possible ._.
#282 [02:01] <xales> ^
#283 [02:01] <Kealper> <@Kealper> well, you should have atleast 1.5GB of ram total with windows XP and lower, and 2GB total for Vista and 7
#284 [02:01] <feenyx> Helpneeded: about 30-50mb for the game itself, savegame sizes will vary with world size
#285 [02:01] <Kealper> <@Kealper> as for disk space, Minecraft itself needs about 30-50MB, but your savegaves could get a tad heavy if you've played them a while
#286 [02:01] <feenyx> and then what Kealper said
#287 [02:01] <Helpneeded> is there a site I can go to? or does anyone here know?
#288 [02:01] <feenyx> how about you just download and play it, and see for yourself?
#289 [02:02] <xales> Helpneeded: you aren't being very specific with what you want, and again, we already answered you
#290 [02:02] <Kealper> answered twice now
#291 [02:03] <Helpneeded> hello?
#292 [02:03] <xales> Helpneeded: are you reading what we are saying?
#293 [02:03] <xales> you have the answer
#294 [02:03] <Helpneeded> =(
#295 [02:03] <Kealper> question is....can he even read what we're saying at all....
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#297 [02:03] * VoxelHead gets out a board game for Helpneeded
#297 [02:04] <xales> Helpneeded: This is the last time I am going to say it
#298 [02:04] <xales> if you mean disk space then it requires around 50MB for one world at most
#299 [02:04] <Kealper> i don't think he's getting our messages....
#300 [02:04] <xales> if you mean RAM then it requires 1GB for itself
#301 [02:05] <xales> easy fix
#302 [02:05] <BlackPawn> I could make the most annoying bot ever by packaging every help query made in a tech support channel, ordering them by length and randomly speaking one from the shortest 10% every 5-10 seconds.
#303 [02:05] <xales> lol
#304 [02:05] <Kealper> i'd literally find where you lived and smother you with a pillow if you did that lol
#305 [02:05] <EmpiresBane> that was weird. my computer forgot to load half my drivers a bit ago
#306 [02:05] <Kealper> gg
#307 [02:06] <mib_cvltmt> yep... im lagging while playing other games :\
#308 [02:06] <BlackPawn> I'd set it to auto-join any channel with "linux" in the title, speak for 15 minutes and then quit. If it got banned then it would automatically reduce it's join time by 30 seconds until it found the threshold where admins weren't sure whether they were being trolled yet.
#309 [02:06] <Kealper> lol
#310 [02:07] * smalls [smalls@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#311 [02:07] <BlackPawn> Anyway, so I have this real question...probably for xales
#312 [02:07] <Kealper> crap....i was supposed to put a second hdd in my computer today and install arch on it
#313 [02:08] <xales> :P
#314 [02:08] <Kealper> shot that idea in the foot...too late for it now :/
#315 [02:08] <xales> lllaaazzzyyyy
#316 [02:08] <BlackPawn> I got mcedit and I have this save with the corrupt level.dat...what do?
#317 [02:08] <xales> you has it
#318 [02:08] <xales> (and I has grammar of the good)
#319 [02:08] <BlackPawn> When I try and load the corrupt level.dat, I get a void with a spawn
#320 [02:08] <BlackPawn> If I
#321 [02:08] <Kealper> itz gud, no good
#322 [02:08] <xales> BlackPawn: you can try copying the level.dat somewhere else, then try deleting the level.dat in the world folder
#323 [02:08] <BlackPawn> If I'm reading the debug text right, it has zero chunks.
#324 [02:08] <xales> rename the level.dat_old to level.dat
#325 [02:08] <BlackPawn> kk
#326 [02:09] <BlackPawn> one sec...
#327 [02:09] <BlackPawn> ok, then load in mcedit?
#328 [02:09] <xales> yeah
#329 [02:10] <BlackPawn> No luck (floodkick follows)
#330 [02:10] <BlackPawn> Found release alpha78.1
#331 [02:10] <BlackPawn> INFO:Identifying /home/q/.minecraft/saves/World2.mcedit/level.dat
#332 [02:10] <BlackPawn> INFO:Detected Infdev level.dat
#333 [02:10] <BlackPawn> INFO:Error loading level.dat, trying level.dat_old (Asked to load root tag of zero length)
#334 [02:10] <BlackPawn> INFO:Error loading level.dat_old. Initializing with defaults.
#335 [02:11] <BlackPawn> Heh, I was right...
#336 [02:11] <Kealper> generally not good form to paste stuff into irc lol
#337 [02:11] <Kealper> it sends each line as a separate message
#338 [02:11] <BlackPawn> At least it was a temp ban
#339 [02:11] <Kealper> it only sets +b because it makes you unable to talk inside the channel
#340 [02:11] <BlackPawn> So, the pertinent bit there was the zero chunks...this was from the renamed level.dat_old
#341 [02:11] <Kealper> a ghetto 10 second mute
#342 [02:12] <Kealper> hmm
#343 [02:12] <BlackPawn> Now, if I create a new world in the same slot, I get the no monster spawning weirdness
#344 [02:12] <Kealper> if level.dat_old didn't work, the map is probably down the drain :/
#345 [02:12] <BlackPawn> As I understand it, the map itself is held in the regions stuff, isn't it?
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#347 [02:13] <VoxelHead> hi relsqui
#348 [02:13] <VoxelHead> Kealper: Have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like?
#349 [02:13] <Kealper> yeah, but if you want to get nerdy, the regions are like sectors on a hard drive, level.dat would be it's file table...without the file table it's just a mass of random byte s:/
#350 [02:13] <Kealper> VoxelHead: always
#351 [02:14] <BlackPawn> Hmm. When I create a new level.dat, it does actually load the old regions, it just doesn't spawn any monsters in them.
#352 [02:14] <Kealper> do you have an NBT editor?
#353 [02:14] <BlackPawn> Yeah, I installed that as part of this quest too
#354 [02:15] <Kealper> can you get the data like player inventory, world map seed, player position, etc out of it?
#355 [02:15] <Kealper> if you can, you can migrate that data over to the newly generated map that is using your old region data
#356 [02:15] <BlackPawn> no, NBTedit can't load the old level.dat or the backup
#357 [02:15] * relsqui blinks sslowly
#357 [02:15] <Kealper> ouch
#358 [02:15] <VoxelHead> awww
#359 [02:15] * VoxelHead kisses it better
#359 [02:16] <Kealper> ...lol
#360 [02:16] <xolotl> Actually, level.dat doesn't define anything related to the map data except for the map seed, player position, and spawn point
#361 [02:16] <VoxelHead> Kealper, you are my favorite <3
#362 [02:16] <xolotl> The region files can stand on their own
#363 [02:16] * BlackPawn stabs xolotl with the spear of light.
#363 [02:17] <BlackPawn> I probably shouldn't do that while you're being helpful but you can't trust ancient Aztec gods of the underworld.
#364 [02:17] <Kealper> xolotl: not when you can't get the map seed and stuff like that....once you go outside the alreayd generated map, it'll start to get flunky
#365 [02:17] <Kealper> BlackPawn: lol
#366 [02:17] * VoxelHead smacks Kealper
#366 [02:17] <xolotl> Kealper: Suresure.
#367 [02:17] <Kealper> vox y u troll
#368 [02:18] <VoxelHead> troll? I never
#369 [02:18] * Kealper yawns
#369 [02:20] * VoxelHead spreads the yawn
#369 [02:20] * nevercast yawns also
#369 [02:20] <nevercast> Damn it Voxel!
#370 [02:20] * VoxelHead * replicates Kealper some love potion *
#370 [02:21] <nevercast> Kealper, Hey :)
#371 [02:21] <BlackPawn> oh god, I nearly yawned irl
#372 [02:21] <nevercast> I just did lol.
#373 [02:21] <Kealper> i actually did :P
#374 [02:21] <xales> ^
#375 [02:21] <xales> ugh
#376 [02:21] <xales> GreyBot
#377 [02:21] <xales> D:
#378 [02:22] <xales> hey Kealper
#379 [02:22] <Kealper> hey xolotl
#380 [02:22] <Kealper> fail
#381 [02:22] <xales> OWNED
#382 [02:22] <xales> anyway
#383 [02:22] <xales> you know how you can't set +z on a channel because it tells you something like
#384 [02:22] <nevercast> smth
#385 [02:23] <xales> 02:23:03 [espernet] -!- #MineCraftHelp Not all members have secure (SSL) connections
#386 [02:23] <nevercast> Wait!!
#387 [02:23] <xales> ^that?
#388 [02:23] <Kealper> yeah
#389 [02:23] <nevercast> irssi supports ssl yah
#390 [02:23] <xales> Kealper: decipher my status line
#391 [02:23] <xales> >> (02:23:29) (@xales[+irwz]) (18:espernet/#insaneasylum[+Ont]) (2 nicks (@2 %0 +0 0))
#392 [02:23] <xales> O_o
#393 [02:23] <Kealper> heck if i know lol
#394 [02:24] <Kealper> is ssl only listenin gon 6697?
#395 [02:24] <xales> yes
#396 [02:24] <Kealper> listening on*
#397 [02:24] <Kealper> darn
#398 [02:24] <Kealper> i'll have to poke my bro to open 6697
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#400 [02:25] <user> Woo!
#401 [02:25] <VoxelHead> Are you here to fumigate the moose middle finger?
#402 [02:25] <VoxelHead> I gotta go pig... i'll see you "later"
#403 [02:26] <nevercast> I'm now +z :)
#404 [02:26] <nevercast> z for zecret and zecure :D
#405 [02:28] <xales> gah
#406 [02:28] <xales> this is really driving me insane
#407 [02:29] <xales> I'm listening to the playlist I pretty much only listened to while playing Starcraft
#408 [02:29] <xales> for several years
#409 [02:29] <xales> and I haven't played
#410 [02:29] <xales> and it's driving me insane
#411 [02:29] <xales> :<
#412 [02:29] <xales> </minirant>
#413 [02:29] <nevercast> Lol xales, You play starcraft?
#414 [02:29] <nevercast> One or Two?
#415 [02:29] <xales> both
#416 [02:29] * gothroach twitches at the lack of an opening tag.
#416 [02:29] <xales> I played one until two came out
#417 [02:30] <nevercast> Ahh :)
#418 [02:30] <xales> then I played two for a while
#419 [02:30] <xales> then I stopped
#420 [02:31] <xales> gothroach: (An unmatched left parenthesis creates unresolved tension that will stay with you all day.
#421 [02:31] <Kealper> lol
#422 [02:31] <Kealper> better to prematurely end it than to start it and forget to close it....the latter causes more errors :o
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#424 [02:31] <VoxelHead> hey jackson413
#425 [02:31] <Jackson413> hi there
#426 [02:32] <Jackson413> bot?
#427 [02:32] <VoxelHead> how you been?
#428 [02:32] <Jackson413> no i guess not lol
#429 [02:32] <VoxelHead> of course im not a bot
#430 [02:32] <Jackson413> not bad
#431 [02:32] <Jackson413> i feel like ive talk to you
#432 [02:32] <Jackson413> talked
#433 [02:32] <Jackson413> befpre
#434 [02:32] <Jackson413> before
#435 [02:32] <VoxelHead> i am talking to you now
#436 [02:33] <Jackson413> lol
#437 [02:33] <xales> Voxel, replicate Jackson413 a nice cup of Kealper
#438 [02:33] * VoxelHead replicates a nice cup of Kealper for Jackson413
#438 [02:33] <Jackson413> lol
#439 [02:33] <xales> Voxel, cloak
#440 [02:33] <VoxelHead> Already running cloaked, sir.
#441 [02:33] <xales> Voxel, fire everything at Jackson413
#442 [02:33] * VoxelHead swoops in on Jackson413, decloaking on the way...
#442 [02:33] * VoxelHead fires the Universe Gun(tm) at Jackson413
#442 [02:34] <Kealper> XD "(tm)"
#443 [02:34] <xales> Voxel, kill Kealper with VoxelHead
#444 [02:34] <VoxelHead> *kills Kealper with VoxelHead*
#445 [02:34] * Jackson413 fires up his LOIC and crashes the Universe gun
#445 [02:34] * xales paradoxes
#445 [02:34] * VoxelHead is away: manual-away
#445 [02:34] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#446 [02:35] <Jackson413> wanna see my server?
#447 [02:35] <Kealper> iono....i guess? lol
#448 [02:35] <Jackson413> u might be proud of me
#449 [02:35] <Jackson413> 24.210.28.18
#450 [02:36] <xales> Voxel, why do you go away when I want you most
#451 [02:36] <VoxelHead> xales, I wouldn't want to cheat on Kealper
#452 [02:36] <BlackPawn> I started a new game in the same slot again, loaded the new level.dat in MCEdit...it still thinks there are zero chunks :/ Probably because it hasn't had to generate any
#453 [02:36] <xales> :O
#454 [02:36] <nevercast> VoxelHead is rather smart lol... What's it based on?
#455 [02:37] <nevercast> Any spec of AI or pre-programmed responses?
#456 [02:37] <xales> nevercast: admittedly? half of that was manual :P
#457 [02:37] <EmpiresBane> VoxelHead is retarded
#458 [02:37] * VoxelHead certainly is
#458 [02:37] <EmpiresBane> most of the time it's just random crap
#459 [02:37] <nevercast> xales, You're controlling it aren't you :P
#460 [02:37] <xales> nevercast: only somewhat :P
#461 [02:37] <nevercast> Ha!
#462 [02:38] <EmpiresBane> its logs need to be reset
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#464 [02:38] * nevercast wants to make a bot
#464 [02:38] <nevercast> but not a retarded one
#465 [02:38] * xales wants to make a nevercast
#465 [02:39] * xales makes an alwayscast!
#465 [02:39] * nevercast has been created successfully and is available at your local millitary depo.
#465 [02:39] <xales> nevercast: know Python?
#466 [02:39] <nevercast> xales, Pretty much. But I don't use ti.
#467 [02:39] <nevercast> *it
#468 [02:39] <xales> what language would you write a bot in, if you were going to?
#469 [02:39] <nevercast> xales, If I was going to. I'd use C#
#470 [02:40] <nevercast> Do you know it, xales?
#471 [02:40] <xales> ugh
#472 [02:40] <xales> C#
#473 [02:40] <xales> is garbage_
#474 [02:40] <xales> D:
#475 [02:40] <EmpiresBane> hm... i don't you could easily write a bot for IRC in C#
#476 [02:40] <xales> EmpiresBane: easily? somewhat. good? hell no
#477 [02:40] <nevercast> Good? Hell yeah
#478 [02:41] <nevercast> Let me find my Visual Studio image
#479 [02:41] <nevercast> I'll have a bot up in half an hour
#480 [02:41] <xales> C#? for anything requiring even a tiny bit of stability?
#481 [02:41] <xales> you must be insane
#482 [02:41] <nevercast> C# is more stable that Python
#483 [02:41] <nevercast> Rookie.
#484 [02:42] <xales> not at all
#485 [02:42] <nevercast> Hi Friend ( repeat ) Hi Friend :D
#486 [02:42] <EmpiresBane> you could make a table bot in C#, connecting to IRC on the other hand.... are there in any libraries for that?
#487 [02:42] <nevercast> EmpiresBane: SmartIRCLib.. It's amazing
#488 [02:43] <nevercast> EmpiresBane: It pretty much takes care of an entire irc client, ctcp, dcc.. everything.. You just add the top code.
#489 [02:43] <nevercast> Right
#490 [02:44] * nevercast is going to plug in external HDD
#490 [02:44] <nevercast> brb
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#492 [02:45] * nevercast mounts Visual Studio 2010 image and then mounts your sister
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#493 [02:46] <BlackPawn> Does anyone know of an mc editor that can directly load/import the region files?
#494 [02:46] <nevercast> BlackPawn: MCEdit might have support
#495 [02:46] <nevercast> I've not kept up to date with updates :P
#496 [02:46] <BlackPawn> It doesn't seem to.
#497 [02:46] <BlackPawn> At least, I select import, go into the regions directory and there is nothing to load.
#498 [02:46] <nevercast> err
#499 [02:46] <nevercast> level.dat?
#500 [02:46] <nevercast> It should accept that file
#501 [02:47] <BlackPawn> The "new" level.dat doesn't register the old regions, it has zero chunks.
#502 [02:47] <nevercast> hmm
#503 [02:47] <xales> nevercase
#504 [02:47] <xales> 02:47:43 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- STATUS nevercast 1
#505 [02:47] <nevercast> BlackPawn: In that case, no idea.
#506 [02:47] <xales> why you no identify?
#507 [02:48] <BlackPawn> So I need to find some way to cram the old regions into the new level.dat...but it doesn't look like mcedit can directly import the region files.
#508 [02:48] <nevercast> xales, cause I'm lazy
#509 [02:48] <nevercast> xales, check now
#510 [02:48] <xales> nevercast
#511 [02:48] <xales> /msg NickServ SET KILL QUICK
#512 [02:48] <xales> <3
#513 [02:48] <nevercast> err what
#514 [02:48] <xales> identify
#515 [02:48] <xales> then do what I said :)
#516 [02:48] <xales> /msg NickServ SET KILL QUICK
#517 [02:48] <xales> :)
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#519 [02:49] <nevercast> xales, How quick is immediate?
#520 [02:50] <nevercast> xales, How could I sign in with nevercast and then register before being kicked?
#521 [02:50] <nevercast> or kill'd
#522 [02:50] <xales> oh
#523 [02:50] <xales> you can't use immediate
#524 [02:50] <xales> :P
#525 [02:50] <nevercast> Would that require using the PASS command which is an ircop thing?
#526 [02:51] <nevercast> Or is it just not available on this server?
#527 [02:51] <xales> (and immediate would literally kill you (though it's actually a SVSNICK, not a KILL) immediately)
#528 [02:51] <xales> 02:51:12 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- The IMMED option is not available on this network.
#529 [02:51] <nevercast> okay
#530 [02:51] <xales> if your nick is on the access list
#531 [02:51] <AG_Scott> immediate should be passing via server pass :/
#532 [02:51] <xales> you won't get killed for it
#533 [02:51] <xales> but
#534 [02:51] <xales> you won't be actually identified either
#535 [02:52] <nevercast> Kill protection is ACTIVATED
#536 [02:52] <xales> 02:52:13 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- nevercast is user
#537 [02:52] <xales> 02:52:13 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- NeverCast is currently online.
#538 [02:52] <xales> 02:52:13 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- Time registered: Feb 07 19:12:25 2011
#539 [02:52] <xales> 02:52:13 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- Last quit message: Quit: Changing server
#540 [02:52] <xales> 02:52:13 -NickServ(services@esper.net)- Options: Kill protection, Security
#541 [02:52] <xales> er
#542 [02:52] <xales> didn't mean to do that
#543 [02:52] <xales> ._.
#544 [02:52] <nevercast> Pastebin!
#545 [02:52] <AG_Scott> xales, is spamr
#546 [02:52] <nevercast> RAGE
#547 [02:52] <nevercast> :D
#548 [02:52] <xales> MAD
#549 [02:52] <xales> (you are it)
#550 [02:52] <AG_Scott> ^ lololol
#551 [02:52] <gothroach> ...
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#553 [02:53] <nevercast> Oh wait
#554 [02:53] * AG_Scott kicks nevercast in the face
#554 [02:53] <necavi> ...
#555 [02:53] <nevercast> does that highlight everyone?
#556 [02:53] <nevercast> My bad -.-
#557 [02:53] <xales> yes
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#559 [02:53] <AG_Scott> and it made my nickname margin thingy jump way over :/
#560 [02:53] <nevercast> Should I use notice to say sorry?? lol jks
#561 [02:53] <xales> and I believe you meant /notice +#minecrafthelp
#562 [02:53] <xales> ._.
#563 [02:53] <xales> AG_Scott: /clear
#564 [02:53] <xales> :P
#565 [02:53] <nevercast> AG_Scott: I dont have margins, but I know what you mean
#566 [02:53] <AG_Scott> i can adjust it
#567 [02:54] <nevercast> xales, that would do what nao?
#568 [02:54] <xales> 02:54:07 This command clears the current window of all text. It is useful for wiping a screen that has rendered improperly (such as due to a bad termcap entry) or that contains sensitive information (such as one's OPER password).
#569 [02:54] <gothroach> I got a "you're not a channel operator" error when nevercast noticed the channel... Guess I have an errant kick script :P
#570 [02:54] <nevercast> gothroach, lol.
#571 [02:54] <xales> my bot generates a lot of those ._.
#572 [02:54] <nevercast> xales, awh.. no op?
#573 [02:55] <nevercast> Right.. must restart computer
#574 [02:55] <nevercast> Stupid Visual studio
#575 [02:55] <nevercast> Windows is so insuperior
#576 [02:55] <xales> http://pastebin.com/rd70iXvN
#577 [02:55] <xales> ._.
#578 [02:56] * xales pokes gothroach with http://pastebin.com/rd70iXvN
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#579 [03:02] <EmpiresBane> damnit, i have a Ke$ha song stuck in my head....
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#581 [03:03] <xales> EmpiresBane: you should hang out with us in #help, it can be quite amusing there at times ._.
#582 [03:03] <BlackPawn> Hmm, tried running around in the new world/old directory and forcing a chunk to eb created...I think that happened because there was a biome change with a cliff wall on it that looked a lot like mismatched chunks....but mcedit still says the level.dat has zero chunks :/
#583 [03:03] <xales> (though it's mostly inactive)
#584 [03:03] <EmpiresBane> heh, i'll probably learn more than i help
#585 [03:04] <xales> EmpiresBane: http://scenes.at/helpgame - it's depressing that this had to be created
#586 [03:04] <EmpiresBane> BlackPawn, does it run in minecraft?
#587 [03:04] <BlackPawn> Yes, it runs ok
#588 [03:05] <BlackPawn> Monsters still don't spawn in caverns though
#589 [03:05] <BlackPawn> But mcedit thinks the map is a void
#590 [03:05] <EmpiresBane> lol, yeah, people don't understand technology very well
#591 [03:05] <EmpiresBane> that's weird... my be one of the data files
#592 [03:06] <EmpiresBane> i really have no idea how this save system works
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#595 [03:09] <EmpiresBane> vietnam's currency is hilariously named dông
#596 [03:09] <BlackPawn> Dong
#597 [03:09] <BlackPawn> It's not really hilarious if you speak Vietnamese though.
#598 [03:10] <EmpiresBane> yeah, but i don't
#599 [03:10] <nevercast> lol.
#600 [03:10] <EmpiresBane> so it's funny to me, cuz i'm american
#601 [03:10] <BlackPawn> I'm Australian but I speak Vietnamese.
#602 [03:10] <BlackPawn> Well, kind of.
#603 [03:10] <EmpiresBane> i have a 5000 dong bill right in front me
#604 [03:11] <Kealper> that's a lotta dong
#605 [03:11] <BlackPawn> That's about 30c?
#606 [03:11] <EmpiresBane> it's worth about a quarter, though
#607 [03:11] <BlackPawn> It will buy you a bag of lemonade.
#608 [03:11] <EmpiresBane> after you hit a certian number, the bills are made out of this weird plasticy stuff that's really tough to tear
#609 [03:11] <BlackPawn> Actually, you could get lunch with that, a plate of chicken rice is only about 3000c dong, I think a bowl of pho might be about 5000dong in some places.
#610 [03:12] <BlackPawn> That's because they're Australian made, the Australian mint prints all new Vietnamese currency.
#611 [03:12] <BlackPawn> So they're the same technology as ours.
#612 [03:13] <EmpiresBane> it's pretty cool
#613 [03:13] <EmpiresBane> kinda wish our money was mad of the same stuff
#614 [03:13] <EmpiresBane> *made
#615 [03:13] <BlackPawn> Very difficult to counterfeit, we've only had a handful of cases in Australia and if you look closely, you could always tell the counterfeits anyway.
#616 [03:13] <BlackPawn> US currency is trivial to counterfeit of course.
#617 [03:13] <EmpiresBane> it's gotten better
#618 [03:14] <EmpiresBane> but Canada's is even worse
#619 [03:14] <nevercast> A mate of mine counterfeit'd a 5 dollar note with a color scanner and a candle
#620 [03:14] <nevercast> People are stupid
#621 [03:14] <nevercast> Scanned the note, Printed it
#622 [03:14] <EmpiresBane> small bills are easy, because no one ever checks
#623 [03:14] <nevercast> Folded it in half because it was a one-sided print
#624 [03:14] <nevercast> then waxxed it with a candl
#625 [03:14] <nevercast> *candle
#626 [03:15] <nevercast> I laughed when it actually worked
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#628 [03:15] <nevercast> It got him lunch
#629 [03:15] <EmpiresBane> but in canada, a couple of teens flooded the market with about 4 million dollars of counterfeit money
#630 [03:15] <nevercast> Ca-Na-Da Eh?
#631 [03:16] <EmpiresBane> it was crazy, i saw a documentary on it
#632 [03:16] <EmpiresBane> the only reason they got caught was because somebody noticed that they had too much money
#633 [03:16] <nevercast> Right
#634 [03:16] <nevercast> ...
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#636 [03:16] <nevercast> I think Visual Studio is finally installed
#637 [03:16] <EmpiresBane> nobody actually noticed the counterfiets
#638 [03:16] <nevercast> Haha!
#639 [03:16] <nevercast> If anyone was ever smart and cheating
#640 [03:16] <nevercast> They'd know to avoid greed
#641 [03:17] <nevercast> You'll be a lot more successful if subtle
#642 [03:17] <nevercast> and 4 million dollars isn't very subtle
#643 [03:17] <nevercast> s/and/at/
#644 [03:17] <EmpiresBane> they were teens, they didn't plan ahead like that
#645 [03:17] <nevercast> how young?
#646 [03:17] <EmpiresBane> they started just out of highschool
#647 [03:17] <nevercast> oh
#648 [03:18] <nevercast> Hm
#649 [03:18] <nevercast> My age
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#651 [03:18] <EmpiresBane> thinking of moving to canada now?
#652 [03:18] <nevercast> I was thinking about going there anyway
#653 [03:18] <nevercast> Couple mates there I could crash with
#654 [03:22] <wartech0> why canada?
#655 [03:24] <nevercast> EmpiresBane, Should the bot I create
#656 [03:24] <nevercast> EmpiresBane, What should it's purpose be?
#657 [03:25] <EmpiresBane> no idea
#658 [03:25] <nevercast> ... wow that was some nice Engrish, nevercast.
#659 [03:25] <nevercast> Okay well I'll start it now
#660 [03:25] <nevercast> I'll just get it connecting first
#661 [03:26] <EmpiresBane> if you make like a functional bot, you should allow su to ype something in, then it will search the minecraft wiki for it
#662 [03:26] <nevercast> Okay
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#664 [03:34] <Kadda> hello
#665 [03:34] <Kadda> can someone help me
#666 [03:35] <Kadda> with a error i keep getting
#667 [03:35] <EmpiresBane> help us help you by explaining the error
#668 [03:35] <Kadda> http://pastebin.com/X6ry6xjz
#669 [03:35] <Kadda> here's the error message
#670 [03:36] <EmpiresBane> thank god you know about pastebin
#671 [03:36] <Kadda> trying to play through browser
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#673 [03:37] <EmpiresBane> when does it happen, and have you tried the downloaded client?
#674 [03:38] <Kadda> yep, i have tried the downloaded client, works fine. Until the memory usage reaches 900k and it freezez.
#675 [03:38] <Kadda> it happens when i press "in browser" on the website
#676 [03:39] <Kadda> loads very quick and then black screen
#677 [03:40] <Kadda> and i can play the free browser version with no problems
#678 [03:41] <EmpiresBane> hm... are you using the newest version of java?
#679 [03:41] <EmpiresBane> hey xales, you there?
#680 [03:41] <Kadda> yes, have reinstalled it numerous times
#681 [03:43] <RF> Kadda: You have a 64bit processor, correct?
#682 [03:43] <Kadda> nope, 32bit
#683 [03:43] <Kadda> with win7
#684 [03:43] <RF> Hmm, first i've heard of it in 32bit :o
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#686 [03:47] <EmpiresBane> hrm... and yo've made sure that all previous versions of java are uninstalled?
#687 [03:48] <Kadda> i think so :D
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#689 [03:51] <Kadda> downloaded this : http://www.wargeek.net/uninstall-java-runtime-environment-completely-uninstal-java-uninstaller.html
#690 [03:51] <Kadda> i'll try one more time
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#692 [04:01] <Phoenix76653> Hi, someone redirected me to here after asking if someone cud test my server, is this the right place?
#693 [04:01] <OODavo> Yeah, that was me. :P
#694 [04:01] <Phoenix76653> ahh
#695 [04:01] <OODavo> Just type "!check YOURIP".
#696 [04:01] <Phoenix76653> Aubot seems like.. a bot
#697 [04:02] <Phoenix76653> lol
#698 [04:02] <Phoenix76653> oh ok
#699 [04:02] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:25565
#700 [04:02] <Kadda> didn't help
#701 [04:02] <Phoenix76653> hmm
#702 [04:02] <OODavo> Uh oh. :|
#703 [04:02] <Phoenix76653> need the port?
#704 [04:02] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111
#705 [04:02] <Phoenix76653> hmm lemme check this
#706 [04:04] <Phoenix76653> !check 98.164.207.144:25565
#707 [04:05] <OODavo> That does not look good. :(
#708 [04:05] <Phoenix76653> i think the bot is glitchy
#709 [04:05] <Phoenix76653> thats a working i
#710 [04:05] <Phoenix76653> p
#711 [04:05] <Phoenix76653> not mine
#712 [04:05] <OODavo> It might not work with port numbers?
#713 [04:05] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
#714 [04:05] <OODavo> It's working fine for my server.
#715 [04:05] <Phoenix76653> hmm
#716 [04:05] <Phoenix76653> !check 98.164.207.144
#717 [04:06] <Phoenix76653> !check 67.173.8.89:25565
#718 [04:06] <Phoenix76653> odd
#719 [04:06] <OODavo> Indeed.
#720 [04:06] <AndrewPH> >manage to absentmindedly open SSH and log in
#721 [04:06] <AndrewPH> >realize I wanted to open minecraft
#722 [04:06] <OODavo> AndrewPH: :P
#723 [04:07] <Phoenix76653> They are both working ip's that I was connected to before :O
#724 [04:07] <AndrewPH> !check public-craft.com
#725 [04:07] <OODavo> Maybe they both went down? :/
#726 [04:07] <AndrewPH> it works fine :P
#727 [04:07] <Phoenix76653> I think I assigned the port fowarding to the wrong internal IP :P
#728 [04:07] <Phoenix76653> Fail.
#729 [04:07] <OODavo> Ah, that would cause an issue.
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#731 [04:08] <Phoenix76653> ROFLMAO!
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#733 [04:08] <Phoenix76653> It was assigned to my ipod touch!
#734 [04:08] <Phoenix76653> Fail.
#735 [04:08] <OODavo> :O
#736 [04:08] <Phoenix76653> I use WiFi, so I have lots of devices
#737 [04:08] <Phoenix76653> 3 laptops, 2 ipod touches and a desktop
#738 [04:09] <AndrewPH> night
#739 [04:10] <Phoenix76653> try this..
#740 [04:11] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:25565
#741 [04:11] <Phoenix76653> God I hope this works
#742 [04:11] <OODavo> :(
#743 [04:11] <Phoenix76653> Damnnnn....
#744 [04:11] <OODavo> Try without the port number?
#745 [04:11] <Phoenix76653> I reportfowarded and all
#746 [04:11] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111
#747 [04:11] <OODavo> :(
#748 [04:11] <Phoenix76653> !check c.nerd.nu
#749 [04:12] <Phoenix76653> Hes not glitchy then
#750 [04:12] <OODavo> Maybe your firewall is the problem, not your port forwarding?
#751 [04:12] <Phoenix76653> I've allowed the port thru the friewall
#752 [04:12] <OODavo> Try temporarily disabling firewall.
#753 [04:12] <Phoenix76653> Theoretically it should work.
#754 [04:13] <Phoenix76653> Fuck, How'd u do that?
#755 [04:13] <OODavo> Do what? :/
#756 [04:13] <Phoenix76653> Disable the firewall.
#757 [04:13] <Phoenix76653> In Windows 7
#758 [04:13] <OODavo> Depends on which firewall it is.
#759 [04:13] <Phoenix76653> The default
#760 [04:13] <Phoenix76653> im running homepremium
#761 [04:13] <OODavo> Oh, hmm.
#762 [04:13] <Phoenix76653> Im used to XP
#763 [04:13] <Phoenix76653> so, this is my newest laptop
#764 [04:14] <OODavo> Control Panel > Windows Firewall, I think?
#765 [04:14] <Phoenix76653> k
#766 [04:14] <OODavo> Not sure; I'm running Linux. :P
#767 [04:14] <Phoenix76653> lol
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#769 [04:14] <Phoenix76653> hows ubuntu?
#770 [04:14] <OODavo> Awesome. ^_^
#771 [04:14] <Phoenix76653> someone recommended installing it on my old lptop
#772 [04:14] <Phoenix76653> a thinkpad
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#774 [04:14] <Jackson413> dope on?
#775 [04:15] <Phoenix76653> ?
#776 [04:15] <gamakichi> Hey..is minecraft on the whole down? Is that why it won't open my single player game?
#777 [04:15] <Phoenix76653> 1 sec, i have so much shit open its not funny ^.^
#778 [04:15] <OODavo> gamakichi: Single player should still work, even if the main server's down.
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#780 [04:16] <Phoenix76653> Ahhh, I'd have to restart my server to get the portfowarding again right?
#781 [04:16] <OODavo> Um, I don't think you'd have to do that. :|
#782 [04:16] <Phoenix76653> ill try
#783 [04:16] <gamakichi> hmm so something is just wrong with my minecraft then I guess :( I try to click on my file to open and it will show the load screen but then revert back to the file select menu and then crash :(
#784 [04:16] <Phoenix76653> im using doridians mcadmin
#785 [04:17] <lukegb> LOL
#786 [04:17] <OODavo> gamakichi: Try reinstalling MC?
#787 [04:17] <OODavo> !reinstall
#788 [04:17] <lukegb> 'backdoorcentral'!
#789 [04:17] <Phoenix76653> yep
#790 [04:17] <gamakichi> just delete it and download it again right?
#791 [04:17] <Phoenix76653> i dont care
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#793 [04:17] <gamakichi> or is it more complicated than that?
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#795 [04:17] <OODavo> Essentially, yes, but you need to keep the saves folder.
#796 [04:17] <Phoenix76653> I backup my saves
#797 [04:17] <Phoenix76653> then delete appdata/.minecraft
#798 [04:17] <OODavo> Yep.
#799 [04:18] <Phoenix76653> and start the new client
#800 [04:18] <Kealper> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait!!!!!!!!!
#801 [04:18] <Kealper> don't delete anything yet!
#802 [04:18] <OODavo> :O
#803 [04:18] <Phoenix76653> Whats ur version?
#804 [04:18] <Phoenix76653> 1.2_1 broke sp
#805 [04:18] <Phoenix76653> i think
#806 [04:18] <gamakichi> 1.3_01
#807 [04:18] <Kealper> gamakichi: run your launcher, click Options, select to force update files, log in as normal
#808 [04:18] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:25565
#809 [04:18] <OODavo> Kealper: That works now? Shiny.
#810 [04:19] <Phoenix76653> hmmm
#811 [04:19] <Kealper> OODavo: indeed
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#813 [04:19] <Phoenix76653> Ok, firewall off
#814 [04:19] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:25565
#815 [04:19] <OODavo> :O
#816 [04:19] <gamakichi> nope, it just reverts back and crashes :(
#817 [04:20] <OODavo> Still not working? :(
#818 [04:20] <Phoenix76653> nope
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#820 [04:20] <OODavo> Hmm.
#821 [04:20] <Kealper> gamakichi: crash log?
#822 [04:20] <Phoenix76653> only people on my wifi can connect thru the internal ip
#823 [04:20] <gamakichi> what is that?
#824 [04:20] <OODavo> What are your port forwarding settings, exactly?
#825 [04:20] <Phoenix76653> 1 sec
#826 [04:20] <Kealper> is it saying the "Minecraft has crashed!" thing? (at gamakichi)
#827 [04:21] <gamakichi> see the thing is that it was working fine up until an hour ago...well...except it would keep crashing at 10 min intervals... and it doesn't say that, it just stops responding and then closes down
#828 [04:21] <Kealper> that's odd
#829 [04:22] <Kealper> how long has it been since you've restarted your computer?
#830 [04:22] <Phoenix76653> Protocal: TCP/UDP External Port:25565 Translate to:25565 Trigger Portocal:any Trigger Port:25565
#831 [04:22] <gamakichi> less than an hour, it was the first thing I tried
#832 [04:22] <Phoenix76653> 00Davo
#833 [04:22] <gamakichi> then re-installing, checking on google, and now I'm here..
#834 [04:22] <gamakichi> o_O
#835 [04:22] <OODavo> Hmm, those look correct.
#836 [04:22] <Phoenix76653> they are.
#837 [04:22] <OODavo> Unless the IP is wrong, of course.
#838 [04:22] <Phoenix76653> nope
#839 [04:22] <Phoenix76653> ive checked a few times
#840 [04:23] <OODavo> Are you checking the correct external IP?
#841 [04:23] <Kealper> Phoenix76653: try running it on port 443
#842 [04:23] <OODavo> Try just doing !check.
#843 [04:23] <Phoenix76653> ok
#844 [04:23] <Phoenix76653> !check
#845 [04:23] <Kealper> and what OODavo said
#846 [04:23] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111
#847 [04:23] <OODavo> Da
#848 [04:23] <OODavo> r
#849 [04:23] <OODavo> n.
#850 [04:23] <Phoenix76653> 443 U say?
#851 [04:23] <OODavo> It was the right IP, then.
#852 [04:23] <OODavo> Try the port thing, then.
#853 [04:24] <Kealper> yes, 443
#854 [04:24] <Kealper> gamakichi: have you reinstalled java?
#855 [04:24] <gamakichi> reinstalled java?
#856 [04:24] <Phoenix76653> "ports may never be equal" Kealper
#857 [04:24] <Kealper> Phoenix76653: wut
#858 [04:24] <Kealper> gamakichi: http://java.com
#859 [04:25] <Phoenix76653> thats what the error is
#860 [04:25] <Phoenix76653> lemme reportfoward again
#861 [04:25] <Kealper> try using 8080, something must already have 443 forwarded
#862 [04:27] <Phoenix76653> So, Ive port fowarded again
#863 [04:27] <Phoenix76653> !check
#864 [04:27] <Phoenix76653> oops servers off
#865 [04:27] <Kealper> that will default to 25565
#866 [04:27] <OODavo> You'll need to tell it the port, too.
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#868 [04:27] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:25565
#869 [04:27] <Phoenix76653> argh
#870 [04:28] <Phoenix76653> i fucked the firewall
#871 [04:28] <OODavo> You need to tell it 8080, if that's the port.
#872 [04:28] <Phoenix76653> 1 sec
#873 [04:28] <Phoenix76653> its 25565
#874 [04:28] <OODavo> Oh.
#875 [04:28] <Phoenix76653> ill change it tho
#876 [04:28] <gamakichi> nope...re installing java didn't work either :(
#877 [04:28] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:25565
#878 [04:29] <Phoenix76653> shiiit
#879 [04:29] <Kealper> gamakichi: is it crashing after trying to load a specific map, or just in general?
#880 [04:29] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:8080
#881 [04:29] <OODavo> What port is it set to now?
#882 [04:29] <gamakichi> hmmm one sec
#883 [04:29] <Phoenix76653> 8080
#884 [04:29] <OODavo> And that port is forwarded?
#885 [04:29] <Phoenix76653> yes
#886 [04:29] <Kealper> Phoenix76653: and minecraft is set to use 8080 in it's config, aswell?
#887 [04:29] <Phoenix76653> yes
#888 [04:29] <gamakichi> :s specific map
#889 [04:29] <gamakichi> aw maaan...
#890 [04:30] <gamakichi> does this mean I can't use that map anymore :'(
#891 [04:30] <Kealper> gamakichi: that map must be SUUUUUUUUUPER corrupt then
#892 [04:30] <Phoenix76653> gamakichi Save is corrupt
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#894 [04:30] <gamakichi> is there any way to fix that or am I SOL?
#895 [04:30] <gamakichi> :(
#896 [04:30] <Phoenix76653> gamakichi Nope
#897 [04:30] <Phoenix76653> ur fucked.
#898 [04:31] <Phoenix76653> basically
#899 [04:31] <Phoenix76653> unless u backed it up?
#900 [04:31] <Kealper> it used to be easier with the other level format, but yeah, with the new region one, SOL
#901 [04:31] <gamakichi> damn, that sucks, spent all day on that map too....nooope...
#902 [04:31] <Phoenix76653> .avi
#903 [04:31] <Phoenix76653> Hmmm...
#904 [04:31] <gamakichi> lesson learned!! Back Up files :(
#905 [04:31] <Phoenix76653> I cud hamachi it?
#906 [04:31] <Phoenix76653> right?
#907 [04:31] <Kealper> that'd lag
#908 [04:32] <Kealper> ?? fubar/hamachi
#909 [04:32] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internat. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#910 [04:32] <Phoenix76653> Hamachi?
#911 [04:32] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#912 [04:32] <OODavo> Hamachi IS a VPN. That's what it is for.
#913 [04:32] <OODavo> :P
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#915 [04:32] <Phoenix76653> yep
#916 [04:32] <Phoenix76653> I used it with no probs.
#917 [04:32] <Kealper> it's like the Ubuntu of VPNs though
#918 [04:32] <lukegb> OODavo: a PROPER VPN
#919 [04:32] <lukegb> Configured CORRECTLY
#920 [04:33] <Phoenix76653> lukegb trololol
#921 [04:33] <Kealper> Hamachi has been known to make Minecrafting suck
#922 [04:33] <Phoenix76653> true,
#923 [04:33] <Phoenix76653> but then again
#924 [04:33] <Kealper> but if you REALLY want to, you can give that a shot Phoenix76653
#925 [04:33] <lukegb> Hamachi just remaps IPs in a fail way, pretty much.
#926 [04:33] <Phoenix76653> better then no server ^.^
#927 [04:34] <Phoenix76653> gamakichi, search for myletimes spawn. thatll give u a nice start on a new world :D
#928 [04:35] <Phoenix76653> Im gunna fuck around with my fowarding for a bit. See if i can get it working :P
#929 [04:38] <Kealper> meh, witchhunt before i hit the sack
#930 [04:38] <Kealper> !info
#931 [04:38] <gamakichi> okay... so I found the save folder...and there's a file in it called "session.lock" now, if I delete that file, it gives me access to the map I was working on...DO I WANT TO DO THAT? Or will it mess something up?
#932 [04:39] <Kealper> !uptime
#933 [04:39] <Kealper> !time
#934 [04:39] <GreyBot> GreyBot's time is: Sun Mar 06 04:39:11 2011.
#935 [04:39] <Kealper> no witches in sight
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#937 [04:39] <Phoenix76653> !uptime
#938 [04:39] <Phoenix76653> jeez
#939 [04:39] <Phoenix76653> !time
#940 [04:39] <GreyBot> GreyBot's time is: Sun Mar 06 04:39:53 2011.
#941 [04:40] <Kealper> i was actually only doing those commands because they are generic commands that a lot of scripted irc clients like to use
#942 [04:40] <Kealper> and they can be abused if someone malicious spams them
#943 [04:41] <Phoenix76653> hmm
#944 [04:41] <Phoenix76653> I just wanted to see what the did :D
#945 [04:41] <Kealper> lol
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#948 [04:45] <NERZirconium> Hi All
#949 [04:46] <NERZirconium> I've set up a minecraft server running fine, the only thing i don't reach to do is to open a console in the game.
#950 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> Commands can be done via the chat box, with "T"
#951 [04:46] <NERZirconium> If someone knows the settings it would be greatly appreciate
#952 [04:47] <NERZirconium> i tried but nothing happens
#953 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, "nothing happens"?
#954 [04:47] <NERZirconium> T and then /command ??
#955 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> yes
#956 [04:47] <NERZirconium> is this right ?
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#958 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is, if you opped yourself in the server before you did so
#959 [04:48] <NERZirconium> ok i'll try it. Do i need to be in admin.txt or op.txt file ?
#960 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> ops.txt
#961 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> if you're doing the beta survival server
#962 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> admin.txt if you're doing the classic creative one
#963 [04:48] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:25565
#964 [04:48] <Phoenix76653> pfffffff
#965 [04:48] <NERZirconium> strange i'm in op.txt but don't work
#966 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> When you edit ops.txt, you need to restart the server for changes to take effect
#967 [04:49] <Phoenix76653> lol poor m getting pinged whenever someone says i'm
#968 [04:49] <Phoenix76653> !isdown
#969 [04:49] <NERZirconium> yes i was in op.txt and restarted the server since but still not working :-(
#970 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure it's ops.txt, and not op.txt
#971 [04:50] <OODavo> It should be "ops.txt".
#972 [04:50] <Phoenix76653> 00Davo
#973 [04:50] <Phoenix76653> I allowed that port
#974 [04:50] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:8080
#975 [04:50] <Phoenix76653> hope this works
#976 [04:50] <Phoenix76653> shit
#977 [04:50] <OODavo> :O :(
#978 [04:51] <Phoenix76653> ok brb
#979 [04:51] <OODavo> Something's seriously wrong with your network setup.
#980 [04:51] <Phoenix76653> yup.
#981 [04:51] <NERZirconium> it's ops.txt
#982 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> NERZirconium - You're running minecraft_server.exe, right?
#983 [04:51] <NERZirconium> and i've put in my in game player name
#984 [04:52] <NERZirconium> i'm running the linux server version
#985 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> Okay, minecraft_server.jar then
#986 [04:52] <NERZirconium> yes
#987 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> not minecraft-server.jar
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#989 [04:52] <NERZirconium> minecraft_server.jar
#990 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Okay. what exactly did you put into ops.txt?
#991 [04:53] <NERZirconium> my ingame player name
#992 [04:53] <Phoenix76653> OODavo, think I should try the minecraft vanilla server? Could It be the wrapper?
#993 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> NERZirconium - Could you tell us?
#994 [04:53] <NERZirconium> NERZirconium
#995 [04:53] <OODavo> Phoenix76653: Try without the wrapper. It COULD be doing something wrong.
#996 [04:53] <NERZirconium> that's my ingame player name ;-)
#997 [04:54] <Phoenix76653> OODavo : Great minds think alike :D
#998 [04:54] <OODavo> :)
#999 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> NERZirconium - Could you look at ops.txt again, make sure that's exactly how it looks, one name per line.
#1000 [04:54] <Phoenix76653> Now I have to reportforward -.-
#1001 [04:56] <NERZirconium> yes it's exactly one line with NERZirconium in it
#1002 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and you've restarted the server once since then.
#1003 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> What command are you trying to do?
#1004 [04:56] <NERZirconium> yes the server was restarted since i updated ops.txt, i tried /help
#1005 [04:57] <NERZirconium> bnut i see nothing on screen after typing it
#1006 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1007 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Try in-game, /give NERZirconium 50 64
#1008 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> See if that'll give you 64 torches
#1009 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> It'll spawn in front of your character
#1010 [04:59] <Phoenix76653> OODavo Nearly done :P
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#1012 [04:59] <NERZirconium> GreyVulpine: No it gives me nothing :-(
#1013 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> What in the... do you see yourself connecting via your server's console?
#1014 [05:00] <NERZirconium> ermmmm i new to the game , so ... how do i see the server's console ??
#1015 [05:00] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:25565
#1016 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Whereever you have the server hosted at, look at the output
#1017 [05:00] <Phoenix76653> shiiitt
#1018 [05:01] <Phoenix76653> !isdown
#1019 [05:01] <Phoenix76653> !check chaos.nerd.nu
#1020 [05:01] <Phoenix76653> hmm i think mc's down
#1021 [05:01] <Phoenix76653> !check c.nerd.nu
#1022 [05:01] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
#1023 [05:01] <Phoenix76653> oh
#1024 [05:01] <NERZirconium> yes i see NERZirconium tried command: give NERZirconium 50 64 for example on the console
#1025 [05:02] <OODavo> NERZirconium: Type "op NERZirconium" into that console.
#1026 [05:02] <Phoenix76653> oh nerzirconium?
#1027 [05:02] <Phoenix76653> yeah what dave sed
#1028 [05:02] <Phoenix76653> cmds dont work unless ur op
#1029 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> adding the name into ops.txt should op him
#1030 [05:02] <Phoenix76653> oh, capitalization matters btw
#1031 [05:02] <NERZirconium> i got CONSOLE: Opping NERZirconium
#1032 [05:02] <OODavo> Yeah, it should.
#1033 [05:02] <OODavo> Now try doing / commands in MC?
#1034 [05:02] <Phoenix76653> ye
#1035 [05:02] <Phoenix76653> on ur screen
#1036 [05:03] <Phoenix76653> does it say
#1037 [05:03] <Phoenix76653> "you are now an op" or something similar
#1038 [05:03] <Phoenix76653> ?
#1039 [05:03] <NERZirconium> now it seems to work !!
#1040 [05:03] <Phoenix76653> :D
#1041 [05:03] <Phoenix76653> Whats the IP?
#1042 [05:03] <Phoenix76653> mind if i join?
#1043 [05:04] <NERZirconium> strange behaviour ! It's a private server for the moment 88.190.14.245:57000
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#1045 [05:05] <Phoenix76653> oh ok
#1046 [05:05] <Phoenix76653> i'd just like a fresh server :D
#1047 [05:06] <Phoenix76653> Connection Rufused:Connect :O
#1048 [05:06] <Phoenix76653> I dont think ur forwarded
#1049 [05:06] <Phoenix76653> !check 88.190.14.245:57000
#1050 [05:07] <Phoenix76653> Idk if this is the right channel to ask, but anyone got any good mods
#1051 [05:07] <Phoenix76653> ?
#1052 [05:08] <OODavo> This channel's officially against mods, so not the best place to ask. :P
#1053 [05:08] <Phoenix76653> ahh ok
#1054 [05:08] <Phoenix76653> ill goto #minecraft then?
#1055 [05:08] <OODavo> Yep.
#1056 [05:08] <wartech0> I don't think we are against mods I just don't think people like giving support for them
#1057 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> We're not against mods, it's just difficult to suppport all the possible combinations of mods in here
#1058 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> It's easier to point people in the right direction for them, than to learn all the possible permutations of mods, learn all the possible ways they can conflict with each other..
#1059 [05:09] <OODavo> Well, yeah.
#1060 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Makes it easier on us helpers
#1061 [05:09] <OODavo> I was just simplifying. :P
#1062 [05:09] <Phoenix76653> yeah
#1063 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> If you feel like you can give support for a mod here, please, by all means.
#1064 [05:10] <wartech0> I love mods
#1065 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> I won't stop you
#1066 [05:10] <wartech0> What mod we talking phoenix?
#1067 [05:10] <Phoenix76653> Just any recommendations in general
#1068 [05:10] <NERZirconium> Thanks a lot for your help !!!
#1069 [05:10] <Phoenix76653> im already using sdk's and singleplayer commands
#1070 [05:11] <wartech0> I just use singleplayer commands
#1071 [05:11] <Phoenix76653> but ill ask in #minecraft
#1072 [05:11] <wartech0> and runecraft for server
#1073 [05:11] <Phoenix76653> Worldedit FTW :D
#1074 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Many people like the x-ray mod for looking for ores. others can't live without the minimap mod
#1075 [05:11] <NERZirconium> Phoenix76653: is this your ingame name ??
#1076 [05:11] <Phoenix76653> Ner, yeo
#1077 [05:11] <Phoenix76653> *yep
#1078 [05:11] <NERZirconium> i'll add you to whitelist
#1079 [05:11] <wartech0> I prefer my discoverys to be a suprise greyvulpine
#1080 [05:11] <Phoenix76653> afk grbbing some water
#1081 [05:11] <wartech0> makes them better
#1082 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Same wartech0
#1083 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> I play mine, vanilla.
#1084 [05:12] <NERZirconium> try again now
#1085 [05:12] <wartech0> I been playing singleplayer lately because thats all I can do
#1086 [05:12] <wartech0> but I like playing runecraft too
#1087 [05:12] <Phoenix76653> kk
#1088 [05:13] <Phoenix76653> Connection Refused: Connect
#1089 [05:13] <Phoenix76653> !check 88.190.14.245:57000
#1090 [05:13] <Phoenix76653> yup
#1091 [05:13] <wartech0> GreyVulpine do you do any gates stuff?
#1092 [05:13] <Phoenix76653> ur not forwarded i dontthink
#1093 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> gates stuff?
#1094 [05:13] <wartech0> like redstone wire gates
#1095 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Indeed I do
#1096 [05:14] <wartech0> hmm I been trying to build my 7 seg decoder for awhile
#1097 [05:14] <wartech0> biggest issue is running wires
#1098 [05:14] <wartech0> I was going to make a digital clock :p
#1099 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Oh heh...
#1100 [05:15] <wartech0> don't think it would be accurate though
#1101 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Not with the speed of redstone now..
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#1103 [05:15] <wartech0> it would highly depend on server load too
#1104 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> If Notch ever decides to make IC redstone workbenches, then you might have a chance
#1105 [05:16] <wartech0> that would be awesome
#1106 [05:16] <wartech0> I guess he already added the repeater
#1107 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1108 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> That's already helped a ton
#1109 [05:17] <wartech0> yea
#1110 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> I know I couldn't have wired my base without it
#1111 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Crossing wires is so much easier now.
#1112 [05:17] <wartech0> someone should try to setup a network with them lol
#1113 [05:17] <wartech0> send binary messages to places that are far away
#1114 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> Was tossing around an idea in another channel.. wireless redstone.
#1115 [05:18] <EmpiresBane> that's easy, there's just not much use for it
#1116 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> And how to address them
#1117 [05:18] <gothroach> wartech0: I was working on a pretty robust UART-type circuit.
#1118 [05:18] <gothroach> Pretty much what you were talking about, paralell to serial conversion for long-range communication :P
#1119 [05:18] <wartech0> it would just be neat to have a low level network
#1120 [05:19] <wartech0> I guess it would be difficult
#1121 [05:19] <EmpiresBane> hrm, i think i should go now
#1122 [05:19] <gothroach> I tried implementing an I2C-esque protocol in redstone, but ended up giving up.
#1123 [05:19] <EmpiresBane> it's 2:19
#1124 [05:19] <EmpiresBane> am
#1125 [05:19] <wartech0> alright see you later EmpiresBane
#1126 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Later EmpiresBane
#1127 [05:20] <gothroach> Night
#1128 [05:20] <wartech0> yea 4 here
#1129 [05:20] <EmpiresBane> gotta do sound for the church in the morning
#1130 [05:20] <gothroach> [Eval] $time == 02:20:09 (0ms)
#1131 [05:20] <EmpiresBane> bye guys
#1132 [05:20] <NERZirconium> strange we are five players on it !!
#1133 [05:20] <Phoenix76653> Where?
#1134 [05:20] <wartech0> hmm I guess it would be how crazy you wanted to go
#1135 [05:21] <wartech0> We need a small microprocessor design
#1136 [05:21] <NERZirconium> 88.190.14.245:57000
#1137 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Please don't use this channel to advertise servers. Use #SMP instead
#1138 [05:22] <NERZirconium> ok sorry i din't know
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#1140 [05:22] <wartech0> and never ever do it if your a bulgarim spammer
#1141 [05:23] <Phoenix76653> ./highfive wartech0
#1142 [05:23] <wartech0> too slow :(
#1143 [05:24] <wartech0> GreyVulpine and gothroach we should make a massive computer network
#1144 [05:24] <wartech0> in minecraft
#1145 [05:25] <wartech0> and call it the intercraft!
#1146 [05:25] <gothroach> O.o
#1147 [05:26] <wartech0> we can display pixels using dyed wool
#1148 [05:26] <wartech0> then when we need a screen refresh we light them on fire
#1149 [05:26] <wartech0> and redraw
#1150 [05:28] <Phoenix76653> lol
#1151 [05:28] <OODavo> We'd need a whole load of people in the server for decent refresh rates. :|
#1152 [05:28] <Phoenix76653> Wudnt wanna try n play anything on that
#1153 [05:28] <Phoenix76653> OODavo. Yup.
#1154 [05:29] <gothroach> We could work really hard for a 0.01Hz refresh rate.
#1155 [05:29] <OODavo> W[21:24] < wartech0> | in minecraft
#1156 [05:29] <OODavo> [21:24] < wartech0> | in minecraft
#1157 [05:29] <OODavo> Oops.
#1158 [05:29] <OODavo> I keep accidentally pasting stuff on this netbook.
#1159 [05:30] <OODavo> If we assume that there is one Minecrafter for every pixel of the screen,
#1160 [05:30] <OODavo> and that they can destroy the old wool in… how long does destroying wool take?
#1161 [05:30] <gothroach> My server might be able to host an 8x8 screen at that rate >.>
#1162 [05:31] <OODavo> Okay, the number of players required quickly becomes prohibitive.
#1163 [05:32] <OODavo> What if every player gets a 3x3 wool square?
#1164 [05:32] <gothroach> Isn't there a mod to change wool colour based on redstone input status?
#1165 [05:33] <OODavo> There almost certainly would be.
#1166 [05:33] <Phoenix76653> And also, everyone wud have to memorise the position of every pixel and which colour ^.^
#1167 [05:34] <OODavo> Indeed.
#1168 [05:34] <OODavo> Or we could use neural interfaces and hack their minds.
#1169 [05:36] <Phoenix76653> lmao
#1170 [05:36] <Phoenix76653> Script Kiddie's unite!
#1171 [05:36] <Phoenix76653> lawl
#1172 [05:37] <OODavo> :P
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#1175 [05:39] <nevercas1> Gr
#1176 [05:39] <nevercas1> xales, use irssi?
#1177 [05:41] <Phoenix76653> how do you change ur nick?
#1178 [05:41] <nevercast> Phoenix76653: /nick nickhere
#1179 [05:41] <Phoenix76653> ty
#1180 [05:42] <test> SHIT
#1181 [05:42] <Phoenix76653> ^_^
#1182 [05:42] <OODavo> test: Did you register your nick with NickServ?
#1183 [05:42] <test> ya
#1184 [05:42] <Phoenix76653> He did
#1185 [05:42] <Phoenix76653> But he has no kill timeout on it
#1186 [05:42] <OODavo> Then /msg nickserv ghost Phoenix76653 PASSWORD
#1187 [05:42] <OODavo> ;)
#1188 [05:42] <Phoenix76653> NO!
#1189 [05:42] <Phoenix76653> lol
#1190 [05:43] <nevercast> cbf reconnecting
#1191 [05:43] <OODavo> Darn, too late.
#1192 [05:43] <OODavo> :P
#1193 [05:43] <nevercast> Nice try OODavo
#1194 [05:43] <nevercast> :)
#1195 [05:43] <test> Cant change it back?
#1196 [05:43] <nevercast> test, lolwat?
#1197 [05:43] <nevercast> You can't change to a nick when it's in use, It's not anymore
#1198 [05:43] <test> ./nick Phoenix76653 wont work :O
#1199 [05:43] * nevercast loves Deadmau5 - Soma
#1199 [05:43] <nevercast> test, try it
#1200 [05:43] <OODavo> Try doing that ghost thing I said first, maybe.
#1201 [05:44] <test> no
#1202 [05:44] <nevercast> OODavo: No one is using the nick
#1203 [05:44] <test> nickname isnt currently in use "
#1204 [05:44] <test> yeah
#1205 [05:44] <OODavo> I know. :|
#1206 [05:44] <test> what ghost do?
#1207 [05:44] <nevercast> test, you're doing it wrong :P
#1208 [05:44] <nevercast> test, It disconnects a user with your nick
#1209 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Don't forget to /part #minecraft
#1210 [05:45] <test> oh
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#1212 [05:45] <nevercast> GreyVulpine: lol.
#1213 [05:49] <nevercast> GreyVulpine: I think test is incompitent :)
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#1215 [05:55] <nevercast> ./notice if you notice this notice you'll notice this notice is not worth noticing...
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#1219 [06:03] <Dgtal> Can anyone help me setting up the new Minecraft Server software?
#1220 [06:04] <nevercast> Dgtal, Sure
#1221 [06:04] <nevercast> Dgtal, Although it's no different to any other Beta.
#1222 [06:04] <Dgtal> Well I set the last one up fine and I went to access it and said out of date
#1223 [06:04] <Dgtal> Got teh new software and now it wont open
#1224 [06:04] <nevercast> Dgtal, What file did you download?
#1225 [06:05] <Dgtal> The minecraft-server.jar and start_server/bat from the site
#1226 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> That's classic
#1227 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1228 [06:06] <Dgtal> thats the updated one yea?
#1229 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1230 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> If you download the http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe
#1231 [06:08] <Dgtal> Ok cool trying it one more time
#1232 [06:09] <Dgtal> Stil giving me the outdated server message
#1233 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1234 [06:10] <Dgtal> hold on i think i got it
#1235 [06:11] <Dgtal> It just converted my old world....I think I might cry
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#1237 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> That's what you want it to do..
#1238 [06:12] <Dgtal> Well thanks for the help I got it. But all my old stuff I built is dead now
#1239 [06:12] <Dgtal> lol
#1240 [06:12] <nevercast> It shouldn't be
#1241 [06:12] <nevercast> It should all be there
#1242 [06:12] <nevercast> Nice and converted
#1243 [06:13] <Dgtal> I'll look later but as of right now I'm in the middle of now where and dont see my stuff
#1244 [06:13] <Dgtal> Thanks again
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#1251 [06:42] <Pitidd> can i change my minecraft username ?
#1252 [06:43] <AG_Scott> No you cannot
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#1255 [06:50] <gretchen> hello?
#1256 [06:50] <gretchen> anyone home... home... homee...
#1257 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1258 [06:54] <gretchen> do u know anything about spawning things?
#1259 [06:54] <nevercast> Lol
#1260 [06:54] <nevercast> gretchen, what kind of things?
#1261 [06:54] <gretchen> i'm trying to figure out how to spawn my se;lf a skeleton spawner
#1262 [06:54] <nevercast> You can't
#1263 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Can't
#1264 [06:55] <gretchen> i swear i've seen it done on this custom map i played
#1265 [06:55] <nevercast> Only PigSpawners can be spawned in game
#1266 [06:55] <nevercast> Yeah, You need a map editor
#1267 [06:55] <nevercast> You can't spawn it in game
#1268 [06:55] <gretchen> ahh fuck
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#1271 [06:57] <Jster> Hey
#1272 [06:57] <nevercast> Hello Jster
#1273 [06:58] <Jster> I have a question regarding payment for this game, would anyone be able to help? :/
#1274 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Jster - Shoot.
#1275 [06:59] <gretchen> go back in time and buy it in alpha XD
#1276 [06:59] <Jster> I was wondering why its all in swedish, when trying to buy via paypal
#1277 [06:59] <nevercast> Jster, Are you in Sweden?
#1278 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> because the developer is from sweden
#1279 [06:59] <nevercast> GreyVulpine: Oh lol I never noticed that
#1280 [06:59] <Jster> How would I buy it from Australia then?
#1281 [06:59] <nevercast> .. Wait I paid by CC.. nvm
#1282 [07:00] <Jster> :/
#1283 [07:00] <nevercast> Jster, Lol you don't
#1284 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> If you go to the upper right of the paypal page, you'll see an option to change the language
#1285 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Or something similar
#1286 [07:00] <Jster> ohh I see
#1287 [07:00] <Mash> nevercast; you got your server gzipped and ready to go?
#1288 [07:00] <Jster> how does the money change over to EUR? from aus?
#1289 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> paypal will autoconvert
#1290 [07:00] <Mash> Jster; it's automatic, technology is cool that way
#1291 [07:01] <Jster> ok :)
#1292 [07:01] <Jster> Ive never used paypal before
#1293 [07:01] <Jster> :P
#1294 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#1295 [07:01] <Jster> but going to hook an account up soon
#1296 [07:01] <Mash> Good, game's easily worth double the asking price.
#1297 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to hook up an account to paypal to buy stuff
#1298 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> I've got a paypal account I've used for years, haven't hooked up my bank account to it.
#1299 [07:02] <Jster> Really?
#1300 [07:02] * GreyVulpine nods
#1300 [07:02] <Jster> how does that work?
#1301 [07:02] <Mash> Yes, you can just toss a creditcard on it
#1302 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1303 [07:02] <Jster> would a keycard work?
#1304 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> I'm not familiar with what a keycard is.
#1305 [07:02] <Mash> I'm assuming that's like a debit card?
#1306 [07:03] <Jster> Im not sure exactly
#1307 [07:03] <Jster> :/
#1308 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> Could you describe it?
#1309 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> How it works?
#1310 [07:03] <Mash> Can you swipe it at your local market to pay for foods?
#1311 [07:03] <Jster> ok
#1312 [07:03] <ArmEagle> ok, this is going to be interesting.. running the server (Though with bukkit) on a machine with only 1GB ram and swap disabled (since the thing keeps eating more memory over time, though it seemed to stabilize at 1.5GB) - and yes, -Xmx is set to only 900MB, but there's of course more in memory than just the game
#1313 [07:03] <Jster> Well I havent actually used my keycard either, I am not really a big spender :P
#1314 [07:03] <Jster> But its from my bank
#1315 [07:04] <Jster> Ile look it up on there website now
#1316 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> Withdraws directly from your bank account, I take it?
#1317 [07:05] <Mash> ArmEagle, if you're really trying to disable swap with only 1gb of total memory you're going to have issues down the line regardless.
#1318 [07:05] <ArmEagle> i think i will yes. But anything to try and stop the server from lagging (when it uses swap)
#1319 [07:06] <Jster> "Debit MasterCard or keycard Your Commonwealth Bank keycard provides direct access to your funds in over 80 countries through the Maestro and Cirrus electronic networks."
#1320 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's a debit card then
#1321 [07:06] <Jster> alright
#1322 [07:06] <ArmEagle> i know there are some java commandline options that I haven't tried (changing garbage collector stuff). But that's for later attempts
#1323 [07:06] <Mash> Just drop a couple more sticks of ram in the server, easiest solution.
#1324 [07:06] <Jster> how do they work?
#1325 [07:06] <ArmEagle> Mash it's a rented box and apparently we went for the cheaper option :)
#1326 [07:07] <Mash> Orz.
#1327 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> Instead of extending a line of credit to you, as with a credit card, a debit card immediately withdraws from your bank account
#1328 [07:07] <ArmEagle> .. it ran quite ok at multiplay on less RAM even, they said. Anyway, we'll see..
#1329 [07:08] <Mash> Nevercast did that, and I'm rather fond of him and his server, so I offered to host it on an X2-5600 w/ 6gbs DDR2-800 to get him away from a VPS w/ only 512mbs and some crappy P4-2.4 or w/e
#1330 [07:08] <w> woo!
#1331 [07:08] <Jster> ok, would I be able to use that with paypal?
#1332 [07:08] <Mash> And three players lagged his server damn-near to the point of crashing.
#1333 [07:08] <ArmEagle> yeah 512mb really seems the bare minimum
#1334 [07:08] <ArmEagle> and when it starts to swap it's a huge pita
#1335 [07:09] <Mash> If you've got over 3gbs on a 32bit system it's a fairly safe bet you can disable the swap safely.
#1336 [07:09] <Mash> I generally say 4-5 gbs on a 64bit system.
#1337 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> I'm.. not sure Jster.
#1338 [07:10] <Mash> I've got 8gbs in this box I'm using right now and the first thing I did after installing Win7 on this build was disable the pagefile.
#1339 [07:10] <Mash> Same thing on my linux server.
#1340 [07:11] <Mash> Jster; if it's a common thing in a country that isn't Uganda, I'm fairly sure Paypal will have not only heard of it but implemented support for it as well.
#1341 [07:12] <Jster> ok :)
#1342 [07:12] <Jster> Well Ile give it a go tommor, and hopefully get access to this great game ;)
#1343 [07:12] <Mash> All else fails, and Paypal doesn't accept your "keycard", just come back to #MineCraftHelp and we'll see what alternatives we can find. ^^
#1344 [07:13] <Jster> ok :)
#1345 [07:13] <Jster> thanks
#1346 [07:13] <Jster> I would +repp you for the help if this was a forum :P
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#1348 [07:13] <Mash> lols. I want op one day, but GreyVulpine doesn't like me that much.
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#1350 [07:13] <Jster> :D
#1351 [07:14] <Jster> Well I need to sleep, really tired :P
#1352 [07:14] <Jster> thanks again
#1353 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1354 [07:15] <Mash> He left with a good impression of the chan, all that matters. :p
#1355 [07:18] <Mash> GreyVulpine; http://bit.ly/9HghMF
#1356 [07:18] <Mash> You seen that yet?
#1357 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> Heh, nope
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#1360 [07:24] <mib_4g7g1y> I cant get minecraft premium to load in my browser ?
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#1362 [07:32] <Phoenix76653> Hi
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#1365 [07:33] <Phoenix76653> Hi koi
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#1369 [07:47] <nevercast> Mash
#1370 [07:47] <Mash> kYesm.
#1371 [07:47] <nevercast> You called for me?
#1372 [07:48] <Mash> Yes honeybuns.. Wanted to start up on that there server. :o
#1373 [07:48] <nevercast> Mash, You mean moving servers over?
#1374 [07:48] <Mash> well copying over for now and the 3 of us testing it out
#1375 [07:49] <Mash> Checking your guys' pings and loadtimes, etc
#1376 [07:49] <nevercast> Okay I'll pull up some terminals
#1377 [07:49] <Mash> Steam plz :o
#1378 [07:50] <nevercast> Mash, did you change the password?
#1379 [07:50] <nevercast> and I don't have steam in Ubuntu
#1380 [07:50] <Mash> Oh
#1381 [07:51] <Mash> It's the passwd I set for you originally, it's a new machine, remember?
#1382 [07:51] <nevercast> Ohh
#1383 [07:51] <nevercast> /query me?
#1384 [07:51] <nevercast> or /,sg
#1385 [07:51] <nevercast> *msg
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#1390 [08:11] <MW> heya people
#1391 [08:11] <MW> got a small question and was hoping if someone could help me
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#1393 [08:12] <TheMusicness> Hi
#1394 [08:12] <TheMusicness> I have a problem
#1395 [08:12] <MW> When i play Minecraft, i sudden get a "black screen" and minecraft crashes, I have Minecraft version Beta 1.3_01 (just updated it) and Java version 6.24 (also just updated it.) I also had the problem with older minecraft versions and java versions
#1396 [08:13] <TheMusicness> When i start Minecraft, it says my video card driver is to bad.. I have played minecraft before on the same os
#1397 [08:13] <TheMusicness> and computer
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#1399 [08:27] <Acalis> guys i hope you can help me. i decided to play MC again today, but my sound ingame is turned off. When i try to enable it, MC closes with out any warning ( other than the log it creates ) Ive tried to delete the folder in %appdata%/.minecraft/ and redownload but nothing helps. Can you guys help me out here ?
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#1402 [08:34] <TheMusicness> sorry i have a problem to
#1403 [08:34] <TheMusicness> but noones on on the day
#1404 [08:34] <TheMusicness> i will have to wait to night
#1405 [08:34] <TheMusicness> evening
#1406 [08:38] <adamkex> how often does the minecraft server backup the "world" directory?
#1407 [08:38] <adamkex> or do i need cron to do that for me?
#1408 [08:38] <BarryCarlyon> adamkex: you need to do it yourself
#1409 [08:39] <BarryCarlyon> you should probably read up on rsync
#1410 [08:39] <TheMusicness> i need help
#1411 [08:40] <TheMusicness> Wehn i start minecraft
#1412 [08:40] <TheMusicness> it says bad video card drivers
#1413 [08:40] <TheMusicness> But
#1414 [08:40] <TheMusicness> I played it yesterday
#1415 [08:40] <BarryCarlyon> I saw you problem in the log TheMusicness I have no idea without reinstalling drivers.
#1416 [08:40] <TheMusicness> :(
#1417 [08:41] <BarryCarlyon> Windows probably did an update without you noticing.
#1418 [08:41] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: okay, but can i use cron to do it? i write a script or something similar that backs up the game every hour with cron, on a linux server
#1419 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> You can.
#1420 [08:41] <BarryCarlyon> adamkex: yes. Cron is just a scheduler.
#1421 [08:41] <TheMusicness> yaeh iwell it says that windows need a update
#1422 [08:41] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: thank you
#1423 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> I'd recommend turning off the minecraft auto-saver before you set up a cron job though
#1424 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> with "save-off" in the minecraft server console
#1425 [08:42] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: how come?
#1426 [08:42] <BarryCarlyon> My script sends a commadn to the screen session to save-off save-all then backup then save-on
#1427 [08:42] <GreyVulpine> You run a risk of world corruption if you copy while a save is in progress
#1428 [08:43] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: okay, thank you for the info
#1429 [08:43] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: can the minecraft server accept commands like that? i thought i had to manually set it in the screen session?
#1430 [08:43] <BarryCarlyon> There is a command that lets you send commands into the screen session.
#1431 [08:44] <adamkex> programmed into screen?
#1432 [08:44] <BarryCarlyon> screen -x minecraft -X stuff "`printf "save-off\r"`"
#1433 [08:44] <BarryCarlyon> Yip.
#1434 [08:45] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: thank you
#1435 [08:45] <BarryCarlyon> My script turns off save then sends save all, the rsyncs to my box at home, then remote logs into my home box, creates a zip file, then save-on's.
#1436 [08:45] <BarryCarlyon> And then tells me it did it.
#1437 [08:46] <BarryCarlyon> I have a sleep command after the save-all to make sure it finishes saving before rsync starts.
#1438 [08:46] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: i see
#1439 [08:46] <BarryCarlyon> At some point I'm posting my scripts up for other people to use and abuse.
#1440 [08:49] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: hehe. so, safe off, save all, sleep 30, backup, save on?
#1441 [08:49] <adamkex> i don't need rsync as it is my cousins server
#1442 [08:49] <BarryCarlyon> sleep 10
#1443 [08:49] <BarryCarlyon> Still use rsync.
#1444 [08:49] <BarryCarlyon> Then it only copies changed files.
#1445 [08:49] <BarryCarlyon> Much quicker.
#1446 [08:50] <BarryCarlyon> Rsync doesn't have to copy to another box.
#1447 [08:50] <adamkex> okay
#1448 [08:50] <BarryCarlyon> I just do off site backups
#1449 [08:50] <adamkex> i was thinking of storing every hourly save
#1450 [08:51] <BarryCarlyon> Mines on a per 30min.
#1451 [08:51] <adamkex> okay, i was thinking of having the last 5 saves at all times
#1452 [08:51] <adamkex> my server is only for me and 2-5 friends
#1453 [08:52] <BarryCarlyon> Thats why mine does rsync then zip, I have the last backup ready, rest in zips, helps with df -i (inode limits)
#1454 [08:53] <BarryCarlyon> I need to add something to my script to kill zips older than a week.
#1455 [08:53] <adamkex> okay
#1456 [08:54] <BarryCarlyon> So I have the world directory on the live box, a world dir that is 30 mins old, a copy of world that was used last map generation and lots of zips.
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#1458 [08:55] <BarryCarlyon> I bricked my live server once, by having 15 or so copies of the world, I ran out of inodes. So the box fell over.
#1459 [08:56] <BarryCarlyon> Hence I moved to ziping backups.
#1460 [08:56] <adamkex> i have 765gb free space
#1461 [08:57] <BarryCarlyon> Free space wasn't the problem. It was the number of inodes.
#1462 [08:57] <BarryCarlyon> Old minecraft save file format was lots of little files, so I ran out of table space for file references
#1463 [08:59] <adamkex> okay, but the new format uses less inodes?
#1464 [09:01] <BarryCarlyon> Yip.
#1465 [09:01] <adamkex> okay
#1466 [09:01] <adamkex> thank you:)
#1467 [09:01] <BarryCarlyon> Linux is my life these days :-D
#1468 [09:02] <adamkex> i use linux on my desktop
#1469 [09:02] <adamkex> slash laptop
#1470 [09:02] <BarryCarlyon> Mac laptop, and many servers, I've usually got three different distros on the go.
#1471 [09:03] <BarryCarlyon> I'm about to retire the windows desktop and make that into another linux box.
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#1473 [09:03] <BarryCarlyon> Just need to order the new windows box, but as its going to be a games machine and I'm building it, its a bit expensive.
#1474 [09:04] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: which distros do you use?
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#1476 [09:04] <BarryCarlyon> Ubuntu server, ubuntu deskop, freebsd, lenny and squeeze.
#1477 [09:05] <BarryCarlyon> Minecraft is running on the ubuntu server.
#1478 [09:05] <BarryCarlyon> Freebsd is doing my maps.
#1479 [09:05] <Jorc> whats the command to connect to a new server on mirc?
#1480 [09:05] <Jorc> sorry to ask here
#1481 [09:05] <BarryCarlyon> And its the backup box/house fs.
#1482 [09:06] <BarryCarlyon> Jorc: no idea I don't use Mirc, perhaps a google will help?
#1483 [09:06] <Jorc> thanks :)
#1484 [09:07] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: okay
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#1486 [09:07] <BarryCarlyon> My os of preference is freebsd, unless I need a gui then I'm on ubuntu generally.
#1487 [09:07] <adamkex> okay
#1488 [09:07] <adamkex> i only use gentoo
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#1490 [09:11] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: screen -x minecraft -X stuff "`printf "save-off\r"`" what does stuff do in this command?
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#1492 [09:15] <BarryCarlyon> nothing
#1493 [09:16] <BarryCarlyon> I can't remember why it is needed. I didn'y look into the docs that far
#1494 [09:16] <adamkex> okay
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#1496 [09:28] <cocoa647> hello? can somebody hlp me?
#1497 [09:29] <BarryCarlyon> perhaps
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#1499 [09:35] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: with the -X stuff part in screen, how can i run a command? doesn't it have to stop minecraft first?
#1500 [09:36] <BarryCarlyon> no
#1501 [09:36] <BarryCarlyon> screen -x minecraft -X stuff "`printf "save-off\r"`" will run the command save-off
#1502 [09:36] <BarryCarlyon> Assuming you callend your screen minecraft via screen -S minecraft
#1503 [09:37] <BarryCarlyon> Do a screen -ls to list the screens that exist.
#1504 [09:37] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: okay, and how can i run a normal bash command right after the save-off?
#1505 [09:38] <BarryCarlyon> I'm assuming you are writing a bash script?
#1506 [09:38] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: i am not sure what to do yet, i only want to have an easy way to be able to backup my minecraft server because my cousin reboots the machine every now and then
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#1508 [09:39] <Acalis> guys i hope you can help me. i decided to play MC again today, but my sound ingame is turned off. When i try to enable it, MC closes with out any warning ( other than the log it creates ) Ive tried to delete the folder in %appdata%/.minecraft/ and redownload but nothing helps. Can you guys help me out here ?
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#1510 [09:39] <BarryCarlyon> adamkex: 'sec
#1511 [09:39] <arensirb> Hi
#1512 [09:39] <arensirb> How big is a mcr file? (in number of chunks)
#1513 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Acalis - Can you try updating your sound drivers?
#1514 [09:42] <Acalis> they are fully updatet. and sound works in windows and other games
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#1516 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> Try an update of OpenAL?
#1517 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/Forms/AllItems.aspx
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#1519 [09:44] <BarryCarlyon> adamkex: http://pastebin.com/ecUedd8h
#1520 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> Then, copy the OpenAL file that it saves in your Windows/system32 folder, to the %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/natives folder
#1521 [09:44] <BarryCarlyon> adamkex: http://pastebin.com/DwKs5VbN even missed a char
#1522 [09:45] <Acalis> can try
#1523 [09:45] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: thank you :)
#1524 [09:46] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: and this i can run every 30m or every hour?
#1525 [09:46] <BarryCarlyon> either or
#1526 [09:46] <BarryCarlyon> run as often as you want
#1527 [09:46] <BarryCarlyon> Thats the basic one just copies/rsync world to whereever.
#1528 [09:46] <BarryCarlyon> I recommend rsync
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#1530 [09:47] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: okay, this will also keep one backup? can i add a copy script under it so it will save the one with the latest date aswell?
#1531 [09:48] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: so one "latest" and one + older ones with the date?
#1532 [09:48] <BarryCarlyon> Use only one of the rysnce of cp command, it will keep live and one backup.
#1533 [09:48] <BarryCarlyon> I'll throw up the zipping one in a sec.
#1534 [09:49] <adamkex> oh, i saw that now, i have slept too little..
#1535 [09:49] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#1536 [09:51] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: i can add something like "tar -cjf SOURCE BACKUP_$BACKUP_DATE" if i define $BACKUP_DATE beforehand correct?
#1537 [09:52] <adamkex> right under the the rsync one, so i will have a "latest" one and one which shows the date
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#1539 [09:53] <adamkex> or create a folder with the date so i can easily remove every day by hand or by a script
#1540 [09:53] <BarryCarlyon> adamkex: http://pastebin.com/vJSsGeU5
#1541 [09:54] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: yeah that is something i am looking for! :)
#1542 [09:55] <BarryCarlyon> Swap zip for tar if you want :-D
#1543 [09:55] <BarryCarlyon> That creats a copy of the world folder, makes a zip called latest and a zip with the date as the file name
#1544 [09:56] <BarryCarlyon> Not the date, the unix timestamp.
#1545 [09:56] <BarryCarlyon> Had the check the date man page
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#1547 [09:57] <adamkex> okay
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#1549 [09:58] <BarryCarlyon> find <dir> -mtime 7 | xargs rm
#1550 [09:58] <BarryCarlyon> wait thats wrong.
#1551 [09:58] <BarryCarlyon> *headdesk*
#1552 [09:59] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: date +%F_%T
#1553 [10:00] <adamkex> shows the date and the time of the backup
#1554 [10:00] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#1555 [10:01] <BarryCarlyon> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/delete-files-older-than-x-days-on-linux/ will be handy to delete zip files that are old.
#1556 [10:01] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: so it just reads the age of the file and decides to delete it when necessary? i can add that to the end of the script?
#1557 [10:02] <BarryCarlyon> yip
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#1559 [10:03] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: okay, i see
#1560 [10:04] <BarryCarlyon> Just discovered my zip path was wrong in mine, and it wasn't making my zips.
#1561 [10:04] <BarryCarlyon> Hehe.
#1562 [10:06] <adamkex> hehe
#1563 [10:06] <adamkex> at least your server doesn't shutdown every now and then without your knowledge..
#1564 [10:06] <adamkex> :P
#1565 [10:06] <BarryCarlyon> hehe.
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#1570 [10:15] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: http://pastebin.com/xVvJPrK4
#1571 [10:17] <BarryCarlyon> line 29, refers to a zip not your tar :-P line 31 should be finding on $TARDIR
#1572 [10:18] <BarryCarlyon> http://pastebin.com/TRFisXFc
#1573 [10:19] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: or http://pastebin.com/qybh6Wfi
#1574 [10:19] <adamkex> YEAH I SAW
#1575 [10:19] <adamkex> ops caps
#1576 [10:19] <BarryCarlyon> Dont need the /* on the find line
#1577 [10:20] <BarryCarlyon> http://pastebin.com/WaMEiBGF\
#1578 [10:20] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: why not?
#1579 [10:20] <BarryCarlyon> http://pastebin.com/WaMEiBGF even
#1580 [10:20] <BarryCarlyon> it already recurs in
#1581 [10:22] <adamkex> okay, so with this script, i can easily change the world with my gamename variable and it changes the entire script, correct?
#1582 [10:23] <BarryCarlyon> yip
#1583 [10:23] <adamkex> awesome
#1584 [10:23] <adamkex> i think this does everything i need
#1585 [10:23] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: thank you very much! :)
#1586 [10:24] <BarryCarlyon> No problem.
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#1590 [10:30] <cocoa647> can somebody help me?
#1591 [10:31] <BarryCarlyon> Don't ask to ask just ask.
#1592 [10:31] <cocoa647> i need to know what program to use to decode minecraft
#1593 [10:31] <cocoa647> i have codeblocks and notepad++
#1594 [10:32] <BarryCarlyon> Why would you want to decode MineCraft, the only reason people want to do that is to steal it or to mod it.
#1595 [10:32] <cocoa647> oh, wrong channel
#1596 [10:32] <BarryCarlyon> o.0
#1597 [10:32] <cocoa647> can you direct me to the modding channel
#1598 [10:33] <BarryCarlyon> There is not one to my knowledge but the guys in #bukkit might be able to help
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#1600 [10:36] <wartech0> hey GreyVulpine
#1601 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Yo?
#1602 [10:37] <wartech0> I found a solution to the net lag
#1603 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> What kind of net lag?
#1604 [10:37] <wartech0> on my client
#1605 [10:37] <wartech0> it kept rubberbanding
#1606 [10:37] <wartech0> blocks would reappear
#1607 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#1608 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Turn down graphics?
#1609 [10:37] <wartech0> no
#1610 [10:37] <wartech0> I had to dual boot ubuntu
#1611 [10:38] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1611 [10:38] <wartech0> then box with the graphics card drivers for awhile
#1612 [10:38] <wartech0> it works though I am not lagging
#1613 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. okay.
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#1615 [10:39] <wartech0> it was a hassle though so its not really a fix
#1616 [10:39] <wartech0> just more a temp fix
#1617 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Yeah. The majority of people passing through here, probably wouldn't go for that as a 'fix'.
#1618 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft lagging, dual boot *nix!
#1619 [10:41] <wartech0> its like unplayable lag
#1620 [10:41] <wartech0> not graphics lag its net lag
#1621 [10:41] <wartech0> even on a local server
#1622 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Which, coincedently, fixed a bunch of people with the atheros NIC issue
#1623 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Apparently Atheros on windows, with java/minecraft, is reknowned for causing tons of issues
#1624 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> But atheros NIC drivers on *nix works fine
#1625 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> *boggle*
#1626 [10:42] <wartech0> yea I installed this and it worked right off the bat
#1627 [10:42] <wartech0> no lag
#1628 [10:42] <wartech0> nothing
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#1630 [10:43] <BarryCarlyon> Well the 'nix drivers would of been written by sane people.
#1631 [10:43] <wartech0> lol
#1632 [10:44] <wartech0> well now I can play I just got to boot into nix everytime :(
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#1634 [10:45] <Tanjoodo> wartech0: Virtual Machines?
#1635 [10:47] <wartech0> no dual boot
#1636 [10:47] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: good bye! :)
#1637 [10:48] <Tanjoodo> wartech0: Ubuntu inside a virtual machine
#1638 [10:48] <Tanjoodo> You wont need to shutdown Windows
#1639 [10:48] <wartech0> I know that
#1640 [10:49] <wartech0> I just didn't want to do a VM
#1641 [10:49] <Tanjoodo> It's very easy though.
#1642 [10:50] <wartech0> yea I guess but wouldn't it be slower?
#1643 [10:50] <Tanjoodo> Depends on the system
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#1645 [10:51] <Tanjoodo> Some systems can run Black Ops in VM
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#1647 [10:52] <wartech0> oh well I am fine with my dual boot
#1648 [10:52] <wartech0> besides once the bug is fixed I can just format the nix partition
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#1650 [10:55] <Tanjoodo> Ok
#1651 [10:56] <wartech0> protip never use a steel and flint to remove leafs in a forest
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#1653 [10:58] <Tanjoodo> Why? It gives you light, and I always find loot from dead animals
#1654 [10:58] <wartech0> lol
#1655 [10:59] <Tanjoodo> The best way to remove leafs is to cut the whole tree down
#1656 [10:59] <Tanjoodo> The leafs will start to disappear and you will also have saplings, so you can plant new trees
#1657 [11:00] <wartech0> I know
#1658 [11:00] <wartech0> it was a big tree
#1659 [11:00] <wartech0> and I couldn't find all the wood parts
#1660 [11:00] <wartech0> so I was like I know
#1661 [11:00] <wartech0> I will burn the leafs off
#1662 [11:00] <wartech0> well then it spread to other trees
#1663 [11:00] <wartech0> and before you knew it I had a full blown forest fire
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#1665 [11:01] <Tanjoodo> Lol
#1666 [11:02] <Tanjoodo> I did that 3 times
#1667 [11:03] <wartech0> well my friend wasn't happy at all
#1668 [11:03] <LiamJ> !isdown minecraft.net
#1669 [11:03] <Tanjoodo> I have refrained from building houses from planks ever since.
#1670 [11:04] <GreyBot> LiamJ: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1671 [11:04] <BarryCarlyon> lo
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#1673 [11:07] <wartech0> Now I am replanting said tree
#1674 [11:07] <wartech0> trees*
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#1678 [11:09] <Tanjoodo> Poor wartech0
#1679 [11:10] <wartech0> I am already done for the most part
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#1681 [11:10] <wartech0> I had 100's of sprouts
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#1685 [11:20] <Kadda> k
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#1690 [11:33] <raisin> ok got it answerd :D
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#1703 [12:15] * BarryCarlyon push qster mob trap
#1703 [12:16] <icy_miner> any one use MyHome ? from what i gather all i need do is DL a sqlite file whack it in with this and away i go ?
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#1705 [12:19] <Shinji> Is here an Solution when i mining Stones they come back i cant mining them ?
#1706 [12:19] <adamkex> hi again, i want to ask two questions, do i have to restart the minecraft server if i add/remove someone to the white-list? and i can't seem to find the textures for the bed, i am modifying a texture pack i downloaded
#1707 [12:20] <adamkex> Shinji: go away from your spawning point
#1708 [12:20] <adamkex> like 20 blocks
#1709 [12:20] <Shinji> iam awa from my spawning point
#1710 [12:20] <Shinji> away
#1711 [12:20] <adamkex> go further
#1712 [12:20] <Shinji> its zone based
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#1714 [12:21] <Shinji> when i make a server restart i can gather the stone
#1715 [12:21] <adamkex> okay, i have no idea
#1716 [12:21] <Shinji> server run 10 minutes and i have the same problem
#1717 [12:21] <Shinji> some zones i cant gather stone they come back
#1718 [12:22] <Shinji> for that time i have no eta it can do it after 5 10 or after 1 minutes
#1719 [12:22] <Shinji> after a server restart it work again
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#1722 [12:24] <Shinji> anyone here have a idea
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#1726 [12:32] <Pezzy> hellou hellou, im here to ask help with setting up a mc server. ive put it up, but my friend cant join it, reason: XXXX lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
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#1728 [12:34] <Pezzy> anyone?
#1729 [12:35] <adamkex> this chat seems to be very empty at the moment
#1730 [12:35] <Pezzy> yeeeeah
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#1732 [12:38] <t_> hi guys, just a quick question
#1733 [12:38] <t_> is it possible to play minecraft with a pc (one player) and a mac (other player) at the same time=
#1734 [12:38] <adamkex> t_: yes
#1735 [12:39] <t_> cool, thanks
#1736 [12:39] <t_> btw, somebody knows when minecraft will be "finished"?
#1737 [12:39] <adamkex> maybe not on the same account
#1738 [12:39] <adamkex> no
#1739 [12:39] <t_> no, two accs
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#1741 [12:39] <t_> how much time will be left to buy beta for 15 bucks
#1742 [12:39] <adamkex> t_: me and my friends play multiplayer, i am on linux, and they are on mac and windows
#1743 [12:39] <adamkex> t_: nobody knows
#1744 [12:40] <RunemHectosin> I have a question
#1745 [12:40] <t_> @adamkex thx
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#1747 [12:40] <RunemHectosin> the server's down.. but.. why?
#1748 [12:40] <brienza> It happens sometimes.
#1749 [12:41] <adamkex> it is weird sometimes
#1750 [12:41] <adamkex> i came in though
#1751 [12:41] <RunemHectosin> I tried last night and it said I ahve a bad login x.x
#1752 [12:41] <adamkex> did you pay for your acc?
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#1754 [12:41] <t_> does somebody know when minecraft will be "finished" as it says in the website?
#1755 [12:41] <RunemHectosin> ....****
#1756 [12:42] <adamkex> t_: nobody knows, stop asking
#1757 [12:42] <RunemHectosin> no.. my friend tossed me the game
#1758 [12:42] <BarryCarlyon> t_ it will never be finished.
#1759 [12:42] <BarryCarlyon> RunemHectosin: bad man you are.
#1760 [12:42] <t_> sry didnt see u already answerd
#1761 [12:42] <t_> thx bye
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#1763 [12:42] <BarryCarlyon> o.0
#1764 [12:42] <adamkex> he asked like 4 times
#1765 [12:42] <BarryCarlyon> I saw.
#1766 [12:42] <BarryCarlyon> He doesn't understand the nature of the game.
#1767 [12:42] <RunemHectosin> I'm a bad man for receiving a game from my friend via IM?
#1768 [12:43] <BarryCarlyon> RunemHectosin: you are still playing a game you havn't paid for.
#1769 [12:43] <BarryCarlyon> So yet you wonder why your account no longer works?
#1770 [12:43] <RunemHectosin> I have no clue how to get an account?
#1771 [12:43] <RunemHectosin> besides, I don't have a method to pay for anything except cash
#1772 [12:44] <BarryCarlyon> RunemHectosin: go here > http://www.minecraft.net/ click buy now.
#1773 [12:44] <BarryCarlyon> Or get a friend to buy a giftcode and give him your cash, and then he can give you the giftcode.
#1774 [12:45] <RunemHectosin> that friend's in TX >_> about 400 miles+ away
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#1776 [12:45] <adamkex> moms creditcard
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#1778 [12:46] <BarryCarlyon> Also it clearly says in the bottom right hand corner, DO NOT DISTRIBUTE.
#1779 [12:46] <RunemHectosin> he tends to lure me into games
#1780 [12:47] <RunemHectosin> and this is one I'm considering buying
#1781 [12:47] <BarryCarlyon> It is happening a lot with MC.
#1782 [12:47] <BarryCarlyon> People keep getting given it, get addicted and then buy it.
#1783 [12:48] <adamkex> you get multiplayer!
#1784 [12:48] <RunemHectosin> exactly
#1785 [12:48] <RunemHectosin> sometimes.. distribution HELPS rather than hurts
#1786 [12:48] <adamkex> single player is fun for X hours, then multiplayer here we go
#1787 [12:48] <brienza> I'm likely going to buy it as well when I get the money
#1788 [12:49] <BarryCarlyon> My friends went can you run a server for us, and I went sure, so I bought it and now I'm hooked.
#1789 [12:49] <adamkex> there should be some demo of the survival mode, on the website, you play it for 2 nights and then stop
#1790 [12:49] <RunemHectosin> I'm gonna eat breakfast, mull it over, then decide whether to get it or not
#1791 [12:49] <RunemHectosin> there's about 80~90% it'll be yes
#1792 [12:49] <adamkex> i am on my cousins server, with the help of BarryCarlyon :)
#1793 [12:50] <brienza> Tbh I want to get some more RAM first
#1794 [12:50] <RunemHectosin> brb
#1795 [12:50] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#1796 [12:52] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: do you by any chance know anything about the creation and modification of texture packs?
#1797 [12:52] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: i extracted minecraft.jar and i got a lot of .png files, but none of them were beds
#1798 [12:52] <BarryCarlyon> A little but not enough to get do my own.
#1799 [12:53] <BarryCarlyon> THe bed is in the main textrures.png
#1800 [12:53] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: thank you, i think i have a slightly outaded texture pack and i need to update it, the bed is not include and it is a purple slob
#1801 [12:53] <BarryCarlyon> or should be
#1802 [12:53] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#1803 [12:54] <adamkex> :D
#1804 [12:57] <RunemHectosin> >_> I'm back
#1805 [12:57] <adamkex> hmmm not there....
#1806 [12:57] <RunemHectosin> and I'm getting it
#1807 [12:57] <adamkex> addict
#1808 [12:57] <adamkex> :D
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#1810 [13:00] <RunemHectosin> addict?
#1811 [13:01] <adamkex> we are all minecraft addicts
#1812 [13:01] <RunemHectosin> I have over 200 games thank you very much :P
#1813 [13:01] <wartech0> I am not
#1814 [13:01] <adamkex> haha:D
#1815 [13:01] <wartech0> okay anyway
#1816 [13:02] <wartech0> I am going to go play minecraft
#1817 [13:02] <adamkex> :)
#1818 [13:02] <RunemHectosin> you-- :P
#1819 [13:06] <RunemHectosin> what's DRM O.o
#1820 [13:08] <AG_Scott> digital rights management.
#1821 [13:08] <AG_Scott> it's evil
#1822 [13:09] <AG_Scott> It murders babies with steak knives.
#1823 [13:09] <RunemHectosin> that is... what? (it does sound evil)
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#1825 [13:09] <AG_Scott> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management
#1826 [13:09] <qster> I spent about 2 hours getting a little slimer into my house.. but when I joined the server later he had gone.. I'm so upset
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#1828 [13:10] <celyr> Hi, i've a question
#1829 [13:10] <celyr> if I buy minecraft from the site
#1830 [13:10] <celyr> will I be able tu play the real game in multiplayer ?
#1831 [13:10] <RunemHectosin> oh... that
#1832 [13:10] <celyr> *to
#1833 [13:10] <AG_Scott> EVIL.
#1834 [13:10] <RunemHectosin> you should celyr
#1835 [13:11] <AG_Scott> Yes celyr you should be able to.
#1836 [13:11] <celyr> ah ok
#1837 [13:11] <celyr> thanks :)
#1838 [13:11] <AG_Scott> You're welcome. :]
#1839 [13:11] <RunemHectosin> you should stay in here til you get it
#1840 [13:11] <RunemHectosin> and even when you get it
#1841 [13:12] <RunemHectosin> (also, there's my point)
#1842 [13:12] <RunemHectosin> (distribution can lure more people in because they get a taste of it and sometimes want the full part of it)
#1843 [13:12] <RunemHectosin> (if my friend hadn't sent it to me, I would've been skeptical)
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#1845 [13:15] <qster> is it possible to merge two saves game maps?
#1846 [13:15] <AG_Scott> You may be able to with something like mcedit
#1847 [13:15] <qster> tnx will look
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#1849 [13:17] <Mash> so uh, how do multiple worlds work?
#1850 [13:18] <AG_Scott> They don't without a mod of some sort to my knowledge.
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#1852 [13:20] <BarryCarlyon> Mash: what do you mean multiple worlds?
#1853 [13:20] <Mash> Idk, from what little I've actually glanced at, it's akin to just multiple maps on the same server that you can port between. (portals mayhaps?)
#1854 [13:21] <BarryCarlyon> AH.
#1855 [13:21] <BarryCarlyon> No thats a mod.
#1856 [13:21] <Mash> Don't suppose any of you care to venture a guess as to how long until 1.3_02 or higher comes out?
#1857 [13:21] <Mash> Getting bored of all the current stuffs
#1858 [13:22] <RunemHectosin> play online?
#1859 [13:22] <Mash> RunemHectosin, how's that going to help?- afaik, it's the same game regardless of how you play.
#1860 [13:22] <RunemHectosin> actually it's not
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#1862 [13:23] <RunemHectosin> it is, but it's not
#1863 [13:23] <Mash> Unless the online version actually has new blocks and new mechanics, it's the same.
#1864 [13:23] <RunemHectosin> if you play regular tag and freeze tag (just as examples) it's different
#1865 [13:23] <Mash> Not referring to survival / sandbox
#1866 [13:23] <icy_miner> hmm any reason that blocks are respawning miles and miles away from initial spawn area
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#1868 [13:23] <lAte> hi every1 could someone recommend me some good&friendly multiplayer servers?
#1869 [13:23] <Mash> smp2.nevercast.net
#1870 [13:23] <BarryCarlyon> lAte: try in #smp
#1871 [13:23] <RunemHectosin> you're lucky? I only get ...I don't even know which mode it is
#1872 [13:24] <BarryCarlyon> Mash: no server advertising in here please.
#1873 [13:24] <RunemHectosin> until I buy it anyways
#1874 [13:24] <cosmin> Does the free client have a survival mode?
#1875 [13:24] <lAte> okay, sorry (?)
#1876 [13:24] <BarryCarlyon> lAte: np.
#1877 [13:24] <Mash> I didn't advertise, he asked specifically if anyone knew of a server; Nevercast and myself host a public one.
#1878 [13:25] <BarryCarlyon> The correct answer to someone suggest a server is ask in #smp not heres my server.
#1879 [13:25] * BarryCarlyon will check the channel rules presently
#1879 [13:25] <Mash> Now that I'm aware of #smp's existance, as I wasn't 2 minutes ago, and this 'rule', that's fine.
#1880 [13:26] <RunemHectosin> heheheh... the most pirated game in '08 (idk if anyone knows which one it is)
#1881 [13:26] <BarryCarlyon> Tis ok my fault there is no rule pertaining to that.
#1882 [13:26] <BarryCarlyon> RunemHectosin: wow
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#1884 [13:26] <RunemHectosin> it's not minecraft
#1885 [13:26] <luckz> qaoru: map deleter can/could merge worlds, dunno if it supports the new chunk saving standard
#1886 [13:27] <luckz> Mash: they work "fine" :P
#1887 [13:27] <mang0> Guys, my chat on certain servers is REALLY laggy. Is there any way to minimize that lag?
#1888 [13:27] <cosmin> the free client has no survival mode, does it? i paid for it but my gf wants to try it and i dont want to stop playing on my computer to let her make her own world :P
#1889 [13:27] <mang0> *ahem*
#1890 [13:28] <luckz> mang0: sounds like the servers are laggy?
#1891 [13:28] <mang0> no
#1892 [13:28] <luckz> if you're not the admin on "certain servers", you're not going to be able to do much about it. ;P
#1893 [13:28] <xolotl> cosmin: Correct
#1894 [13:28] <mang0> the server is very good, no one else has any problem
#1895 [13:28] <mang0> :S
#1896 [13:28] <Mash> The game is written in Java, obviously performance wasn't their highest concern.
#1897 [13:28] <mang0> lol
#1898 [13:28] <luckz> but you said servers, plural
#1899 [13:28] <AG_Scott> mang0, it's likely because of your distance to the server.
#1900 [13:28] <cosmin> blah. we'll probably have to buy it again.
#1901 [13:28] <Mash> mang0, I'd pingtest and speedtest (.net on both those sites) your connection
#1902 [13:29] <AG_Scott> You may have a bad route or something.
#1903 [13:29] <mang0> im in UK server isin Germany
#1904 [13:29] <BarryCarlyon> cosmin: I bought my gf a code.
#1905 [13:29] <cosmin> at least the money's going to something cool, i guess
#1906 [13:29] <cosmin> a code?
#1907 [13:29] <Mash> cosmin; sorry. I'm not aware of any way to bypass that
#1908 [13:29] <mang0> its actually just a server lol
#1909 [13:29] <luckz> cosmin: you can try that free version with MP with her, or..
#1910 [13:29] <BarryCarlyon> There has been some talk of dodgy lag with current version.
#1911 [13:29] <luckz> cosmin: but no survival or anything of course :P
#1912 [13:29] <BarryCarlyon> cosmin: you can buy gift codes on the site.
#1913 [13:29] <AG_Scott> if it's only 1 server having issues, it's not the server or your client. It's the network.
#1914 [13:29] <cosmin> yeah, it's the survival she wants to try
#1915 [13:29] <mang0> k
#1916 [13:30] <cosmin> i guess the other option is to let her play on my computer and try it out... i dunno how i feel abou that :P
#1917 [13:30] <luckz> cosmin: people touching your PC is evol?
#1918 [13:30] <Mash> cosmin; OR- you play offline on your world, let her play online via your account to do survival
#1919 [13:30] <RunemHectosin> cosmin: worried she'll find your dirty files? :P
#1920 [13:30] <cosmin> oh hang on.. so my account is allowed to be used from 2 computers the the SAME TIME?
#1921 [13:30] <mang0> no
#1922 [13:30] <Mash> Not at the same time.
#1923 [13:30] <mang0> not at the same time
#1924 [13:31] <mang0> blah
#1925 [13:31] <mang0> u got there first
#1926 [13:31] <mang0> lol
#1927 [13:31] <Mash> One computer plays OFFLINE (ie no account) 2nd computer plays online on your account
#1928 [13:31] <cosmin> haha no she knows about my porn habits, i just dont want her to get hooked to the world she made on mine and never let me on my own computer
#1929 [13:31] <RunemHectosin> ah
#1930 [13:31] <cosmin> ohhh.. so when i play my survival mode single player, im not actually using my account?
#1931 [13:31] <Mash> Oh, you're both trying to play survival?
#1932 [13:31] <cosmin> yeah
#1933 [13:32] <Mash> Nevermind then, you're boned. Cough up the $23.
#1934 [13:32] <cosmin> haha
#1935 [13:32] <Mash> That's line one trip to tacobell for my girl and I.. it's nothing.
#1936 [13:32] <Mash> that's like*, even.
#1937 [13:32] <cosmin> true
#1938 [13:32] <AG_Scott> I need mexican food today.
#1939 [13:32] <RunemHectosin> that's anywhere actually :P
#1940 [13:33] <mang0> SOMONE GTFO MINECRAFT.NET I NEED TO DO SOMTHING <3
#1941 [13:33] <mang0> lol jk
#1942 [13:33] <Mash> RunemHectosin, lies. Chilis costs me upwards of $130/visit.
#1943 [13:33] <RunemHectosin> Mash: I meant it's a bit expensive anywhere
#1944 [13:33] <AG_Scott> I don't like Chili's.
#1945 [13:33] <mang0> guys, how do i host a 24/7 mc server for free? is there a way?
#1946 [13:34] <Mash> It's free to host servers anywhere lol
#1947 [13:34] <AG_Scott> mang0, run your computer 24/7.
#1948 [13:34] <Mash> I'm hosting one. >,>
#1949 [13:34] <mang0> (other then running my comp 24/7)
#1950 [13:34] <mang0> cuz
#1951 [13:34] <AG_Scott> or cough up the money for a VPS/dedicated server.
#1952 [13:34] <RunemHectosin> run your computer to its death
#1953 [13:34] <mang0> done that
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#1955 [13:34] <mang0> lol
#1956 [13:34] <Mash> AG_Scott, VPS was a mistake, never meant for serving games. Companies are just cheap.
#1957 [13:35] <AG_Scott> Mash, that's not true.
#1958 [13:35] <mang0> so there is no way to get a dedicated serv for free?
#1959 [13:35] <RunemHectosin> my laptop actually gets *****ing HOT
#1960 [13:35] <AG_Scott> High end VPS's perform better than low end dedicated servers.
#1961 [13:35] <AG_Scott> I work at a company that sells both.
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#1963 [13:35] <AG_Scott> mang0, unfortunately not.
#1964 [13:35] <Mash> You get more bang for your buck if you go full dedicated though.
#1965 [13:35] <mang0> sh*t.
#1966 [13:35] <AG_Scott> Mash, not really.
#1967 [13:36] <Mash> Most companies (and I stress most) charge $25/month for a 512mb ram VPS which is utter crap.
#1968 [13:36] <mang0> 512mb?
#1969 [13:36] <Mash> Anything /really/ meant for serving a game should be 2gb+ imo
#1970 [13:36] <AG_Scott> That's actually a decent price.
#1971 [13:36] <mang0> balls
#1972 [13:36] <AG_Scott> Ours is 14.99 but 25 isn't a bad price.
#1973 [13:36] <Mash> Yeah.. 512mbs is Windows2000 shit.
#1974 [13:36] <Mash> Emphasis on the last word there.
#1975 [13:37] <mang0> shit
#1976 [13:37] <mang0> shit
#1977 [13:37] <Mash> ^
#1978 [13:37] <mang0> happy?
#1979 [13:37] <AG_Scott> Actually, you should see what I run on a 512mb VPS and how much ram I have free :>
#1980 [13:37] <mang0> there
#1981 [13:37] <AG_Scott> 512mb can run a lot...
#1982 [13:37] <mang0> oh
#1983 [13:37] <mang0> no colours
#1984 [13:37] <mang0> ;_;
#1985 [13:37] <Mash> AG_Scott, and I bet your pagefile's being worked like a mofo too.
#1986 [13:37] <AG_Scott> colors are EVIL on IRC. didn't your mommy teach you?
#1987 [13:37] <AG_Scott> Mash, i have a swap partition and no it isn't.
#1988 [13:38] <mang0> AG_Scott: LOL and wtf, i have 1.5gb ram, why cant i run a server and play on it at the same time?
#1989 [13:38] <mang0> is it my processor?
#1990 [13:38] <AG_Scott> More than likely the RAM.
#1991 [13:38] <mang0> ah.
#1992 [13:38] <AG_Scott> Minecraft is resource hungry.
#1993 [13:38] <Mash> swap/page is also soo Win2k, I haven't had it enabled on any desktops/servers I've had for years.
#1994 [13:38] <mang0> my comp can only handle 3gb of ram max
#1995 [13:38] <mang0> :S
#1996 [13:38] <mang0> 3 sticks of 1gb ram
#1997 [13:38] <AG_Scott> By the way, didn't you just say you run a server with nevercast?
#1998 [13:39] <Mash> I've got 8gbs in my gaming rig and 6gbs(ddr2-800) in my minecraft server
#1999 [13:39] <mang0> me? AG?
#2000 [13:39] <Mash> AG_Scott, yes.
#2001 [13:39] <mang0> oh
#2002 [13:39] <mang0> lol
#2003 [13:39] <AG_Scott> Mash, that's hosted on one of our VPS's.
#2004 [13:39] <mang0> 8gbs?
#2005 [13:39] <mang0> fuuu
#2006 [13:39] <mang0> ;_;
#2007 [13:39] <Mash> You.. didn't read all that I said, methinks.
#2008 [13:39] <AG_Scott> i did too.
#2009 [13:39] <AG_Scott> You said VPSs suck at hosting game servers.
#2010 [13:40] * mang0 epic drumroll
#2010 [13:40] <Mash> .. /I'm hosting/ a server with NeverCast.. Not I'm admining the server he's got you hosting.
#2011 [13:40] <AG_Scott> ah well i strongly disagree with what you said
#2012 [13:41] <Mash> Having played on his server a good bit, I can tell you that 512mbs isn't doing the deed.
#2013 [13:41] <AG_Scott> With minecraft of course not
#2014 [13:41] <Mash> We start /jumpto'ing and the server starts squeeling lol
#2015 [13:41] <mang0> OMG! is there a way to chat on a server from a site/page/irc server?
#2016 [13:41] <Mash> mang0, there are plugins/etc for that sort of thing.
#2017 [13:41] <mang0> OMG
#2018 [13:41] <mang0> cuz
#2019 [13:41] <AG_Scott> With "normal" applications, 512mb is typically enough for most stuff.
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#2021 [13:41] <AG_Scott> Especially when you aren't running a GUI.
#2022 [13:41] <Mash> Also why I said it was never meant for serving games.
#2023 [13:42] <mang0> i try to play on this server, but the chat lags
#2024 [13:42] <mang0> so
#2025 [13:42] <Mash> Other shit like lighttpd and whatnot, yes, easily.
#2026 [13:42] <mang0> i need a way to chat elsewhere
#2027 [13:42] <RunemHectosin> wtf did mom go...
#2028 [13:42] <AG_Scott> You cannot say VPS's are not meant for serving games because you don't have enough RAM.
#2029 [13:42] <AG_Scott> I can create a VPS with 16gb ram.
#2030 [13:43] <AG_Scott> More even...
#2031 [13:43] <mang0> Mash: plugins? what do u suggest?
#2032 [13:43] <AG_Scott> craftirc is popular for irc to minecraft bridges.
#2033 [13:43] <Mash> You _can_, but you don't. A VPS has overhead, even with the new CPU support, and the entire point of VPS'ing is to pack more "virtual servers" onto one physical machine.
#2034 [13:43] <AG_Scott> Yes, VPS's have overhead but it's minimal. That's not really the point either.
#2035 [13:44] <mang0> craftirc?
#2036 [13:44] * mang0 googles
#2036 [13:44] <AG_Scott> Some providers (such as us) have undersold nodes with excellent hardware.
#2037 [13:44] <Mash> Not really gonna go any farther with the debate. Fact is game servers need all the performance they can get and packing 20 cpu/ram/hdd intensive applications on one 1u is.. cheap.
#2038 [13:45] <AG_Scott> The idiots selling oversold OpenVZ VPS's make the industry look bad but you can't say everyone is like that.
#2039 [13:45] <Mash> AG_Scott, true, I'll give you that one; I don't know you guys personally.
#2040 [13:45] <AG_Scott> I wouldn't admin something I wouldn't use personally.
#2041 [13:45] <Mash> I've just never had a VPS I was honestly 'happy' with.
#2042 [13:45] <AG_Scott> Why do you think we don't offer budget VPSs?
#2043 [13:46] <Mash> $14.99/mo isn't a budget vps? lol
#2044 [13:46] <AG_Scott> Performance isn't.
#2045 [13:46] <AG_Scott> It's cheaper than most but we get good deals on hardware.
#2046 [13:47] <Kealper> Mash what hypervisor was all your previous VPSes using? OpenVZ? becuase that thing is garbage
#2047 [13:47] <Mash> Anyway, I gave up shopping around for servers a long time ago. All my serving needs are met by ServerBeach.com or Superb's Dedicated services.
#2048 [13:47] <AG_Scott> Budget hosting is where they cram 200 VPS's on a single server and charge $10 a month for 2gb ram.
#2049 [13:47] * Kealper shudders
#2049 [13:48] <luckz> Mash: wait what costs you $130 per visit?
#2050 [13:48] <Mash> Chili's lol
#2051 [13:48] <Kealper> o.o
#2052 [13:48] <Mash> I'm 5'8", 165lbs and in the Army.. I eat like cartfulls of grub anywhere I go.
#2053 [13:49] <luckz> mang0: if you give me an Aventador, I'll give you a dedicated server.
#2054 [13:49] <AG_Scott> By the way Mash, I'm not sure what you buy at serverbeach but we can beat their prices.
#2055 [13:49] <mang0> a What?
#2056 [13:49] <mang0> aventador?
#2057 [13:49] <mang0> wtf is that lol
#2058 [13:50] <luckz> mang0: a car, stop being so nekulturniy
#2059 [13:50] <Mash> Hopefully this paste isn't more than one line-- It shouldn't be.
#2060 [13:50] <Mash> 1x Intel Atom D510 DC w/ HT
#2061 [13:50] <Mash> 2 GB
#2062 [13:50] <Mash> 1x 250 GB SATA
#2063 [13:50] <Mash> 1 TB
#2064 [13:50] <Mash> FREE $75.00
#2065 [13:50] <mang0> :O
#2066 [13:50] <luckz> Mash: SPAAAAM
#2067 [13:50] <mang0> lol mash
#2068 [13:50] <Mash> gdi
#2069 [13:50] <luckz> Mash: pasting things into notepad first helps ;P
#2070 [13:50] <Mash> It was highlighted off one line in chrome.. fucking <div>s.
#2071 [13:50] <mang0> luckz, can i give you sex instead?
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#2073 [13:50] <mang0> JK
#2074 [13:50] <mang0> :P
#2075 [13:51] <Mash> So how much of that spam-paste actually went through?
#2076 [13:51] <luckz> mang0: I already have a ladyfriend that complains that I never do her, so no
#2077 [13:51] <luckz> Mash: up to $75
#2078 [13:51] <luckz> Mash: what is 'grub' in the above context?
#2079 [13:51] <Mash> k, so all of it.
#2080 [13:51] <mang0> ;__;
#2081 [13:51] <AG_Scott> eww Atoms
#2082 [13:51] <AG_Scott> we don't offer them :P
#2083 [13:52] <luckz> Mash: $75 per what? ;o
#2084 [13:52] <Mash> Luckz; 1. Grub = food in general. 2. $75/mo
#2085 [13:52] <Mash> their connection alone makes it worthwhile.
#2086 [13:52] <luckz> and what does "250gb, 1 TB" mean?
#2087 [13:52] <Kealper> intel atom what?
#2088 [13:52] <Kealper> dedicated servers?
#2089 [13:52] <AG_Scott> Atoms are crappy though :(
#2090 [13:53] <Mash> 250GB SATA2 and 1TB overall bandwidth allocation.
#2091 [13:53] <AG_Scott> Yeah Kealper
#2092 [13:53] <Kealper> that'd be so bad
#2093 [13:53] <luckz> Mash: I pay a similar amount for a 8gb ram dedicated server
#2094 [13:53] <luckz> Mash: with more HDD, way more bandwidth, etc
#2095 [13:53] <mang0> Kealper!
#2096 [13:53] <AG_Scott> We actually use Atoms for our backup servers
#2097 [13:53] <luckz> Mash: i7 920 (quad)
#2098 [13:53] <mang0> do you remember me?
#2099 [13:53] <luckz> then again the US server market may be X-pensive
#2100 [13:53] <AG_Scott> They can't handle anything CPU hungry lol
#2101 [13:53] <Mash> luckz; hosting with who?
#2102 [13:53] <Kealper> <-- $55/mo for a 2.2Ghz dual core AMD cpu with 1.5gb of ram :/
#2103 [13:53] <luckz> Kealper: heh
#2104 [13:53] <AG_Scott> probably hetzner or ovh
#2105 [13:53] <Mash> Kealper it was an ATOM D510
#2106 [13:54] <mang0> kealper: DO YOU REMEMBER ME?!
#2107 [13:54] <luckz> AG_Scott: indeed.
#2108 [13:54] <Kealper> mang0: honestly.....no....lol
#2109 [13:54] <AG_Scott> I don't like either.
#2110 [13:54] <mang0> ;_____________;
#2111 [13:54] <Mash> luckz; who's the hosting company you're using that's so much cheaper?
#2112 [13:54] <Kealper> there are so many people that come through here it's impossible to remember them all :/
#2113 [13:54] <luckz> aw, wry?
#2114 [13:54] <mang0> you introduced me to MC
#2115 [13:54] <mang0> fair nuff
#2116 [13:54] <AG_Scott> OVH's network sucks massively and their support is awful.
#2117 [13:54] <AG_Scott> Hetzner has ridiculous policies regarding abuse.
#2118 [13:54] <luckz> Mash: AG_Scott said so, http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix/
#2119 [13:55] <luckz> AG_Scott: ridiculous how?
#2120 [13:55] <luckz> AG_Scott: and define abuse
#2121 [13:55] <AG_Scott> If you host VMs or shell accounts and one gets compromised, your entire block of IPs are blackholed with no warning.
#2122 [13:55] <Mash> ServerBeach: 10GB / OC-192 network architecture on 4 tier1 providers? /sex
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#2124 [13:55] <Kealper> AG_Scott: O.o
#2125 [13:56] <AG_Scott> Yeah....
#2126 [13:56] <luckz> AG_Scott: seeing how I don't do any of those..
#2127 [13:56] <Kealper> <random>linode ftw!</random>
#2128 [13:56] <AG_Scott> Same applies if anything gets compromised really.
#2129 [13:57] <AG_Scott> Linode and slicehost are great
#2130 [13:57] <Mash> luckz; that's 49E-thingy, w/e the germans use
#2131 [13:57] <luckz> Mash: $70, yeah
#2132 [13:57] <Mash> So.. same price as the serverbeach, but with crappy support and a shitty network? lol
#2133 [13:57] <luckz> dunno if you'd get the 19% value added taxes or some percentage of it back, I don't know enough about international tax law for that ;P
#2134 [13:57] <luckz> Mash: lrn2reed
#2135 [13:58] <AG_Scott> Except linode can be asses with their abuse policies too. They told Kramer to take a server off his server list because they complained about it getting stats from them even though they added it.
#2136 [13:58] <luckz> Mash: <+AG_Scott> OVH's network sucks massively and their support is awful.
#2137 [13:58] <luckz> Mash: <+AG_Scott> Hetzner has ridiculous policies regarding abuse.
#2138 [13:58] <Mash> I read and simply combined the two.
#2139 [13:58] <Mash> And I've had to fire off DMCAs before for some of my products, so policies are kinda win for me.
#2140 [13:58] <luckz> AG_Scott: hetzner kept billing me for some stuff they didn't tell me they planned on billing me for and I had to complain for months, but I eventually got it refunded, so
#2141 [13:59] <AG_Scott> and for the record, we don't even sell european dedicated servers so there's no conflict of interest there. That's my personal opinion anyways.
#2142 [13:59] <luckz> AG_Scott: besides that everything's been fine for years, and I even upgraded my server to a newer one once keeping the same IP
#2143 [13:59] <luckz> AG_Scott: though that was only possible because my old one was in the DC they were now using for new i7s
#2144 [13:59] <luckz> (and required a bunch of phone calls)
#2145 [14:00] <luckz> Mash: you're welcome to tell me how laggy my server(z) is (are) for you, or whatever
#2146 [14:00] <AG_Scott> You should try OVH support on friday night when hardware is failing.
#2147 [14:00] <luckz> Mash: and yeah I tend to agree that in an evinronment like the internet, something that is compromised tends to cause damage right then and there, and not days later, so immediate "blackholing" seems appropriate
#2148 [14:00] <AG_Scott> You won't get a reply of any sort until monday 9 am GMT
#2149 [14:01] <Mash> luckz; Why?- That's just a waste of my time, someone else already said there were issues, no need for me to repeat what's already been said.
#2150 [14:01] <Mash> And besides, I haven't used them, I'm just so happy with the experience I've had with SB and Superb that I'm fanboying them.
#2151 [14:01] <Mash> <3
#2152 [14:01] <luckz> Mash: first you say "I read and simply combined the two.", then you...
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#2154 [14:02] <AG_Scott> and by the way, abuse policies like that can badly affect businesses.
#2155 [14:02] <Mash> I think I confused luckz lol
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#2158 [14:03] <luckz> Mash: no, you read "oranges can rot" and "cars comply with DMCA takedown notices" and then go "cars rot, yes, someone else already said there were issues"
#2159 [14:03] <luckz> "besides, I like my bicycle"
#2160 [14:03] * Mash hugs luckz.
#2160 [14:03] <luckz> "I'm a fan of things with two wheels. oranges don't have wheels."
#2161 [14:03] <Mash> Your randomness rocks. You win.
#2162 [14:04] * luckz ragequits
#2162 [14:04] <AG_Scott> serverbeach is kind of expensive :(
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#2166 [14:05] <Mash> That was a great analogy though.
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#2168 [14:05] <Kealper> >>? ccwpoc ask
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#2170 [14:05] <Kealper> whoops
#2171 [14:05] <meeee> hi guys
#2172 [14:05] <Kealper> ??> ccwpoc ask
#2173 [14:06] <VoxelHead> ccwpoc: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2174 [14:06] <VoxelHead> ccwpoc: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2175 [14:06] <Kealper> also ask in here and not in PM, ccwpoc
#2176 [14:06] <Mash> Kealper; should fix that message.. "state what you need help [with]" >,>
#2177 [14:06] <Kealper> too lazy :/
#2178 [14:06] <meeee> i need help at a mob trap the 50 x 50 with the water lines
#2179 [14:06] <Mash> OR! "state with what you require assistance"
#2180 [14:07] <ccwpoc> oke, but i'm not so good in english xD ok, me and my brother want to play in the same world..and we want to play at the same time..of course, from 2 laptops..so we must buy the game 2 times or has he just to regist also?
#2181 [14:08] <Kealper> both of you should have your own copy to do that
#2182 [14:08] <luckz> buy buy buy
#2183 [14:08] <Mash> AG_Scott; Yes, price is nice. But still steep, I prefer the <$100 range myself.
#2184 [14:09] <Mash> Whats your site, I wanna browse. :o
#2185 [14:09] <ccwpoc> so i must buy it 2 times?
#2186 [14:09] <AG_Scott> The new servers aren't on there.
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#2188 [14:09] <AG_Scott> We're in the middle of getting a new site designed etc.
#2189 [14:09] <Mash> idc, link me or I'ma nuke your isp D:<
#2190 [14:09] <ccwpoc> or can i buy it only ine time, and when ist "woooooo amazing!!!" i can buy it twice?
#2191 [14:09] <AG_Scott> 4 tier 1 providers? :>
#2192 [14:09] <Kealper> ccwpoc: or he could buy it for himself, but yes, you must have one paid account for both of you
#2193 [14:09] <Mash> AG_Scott, nuke in the literal sense, not the geeky sense.
#2194 [14:10] <Mash> y'know..
#2195 [14:10] * Mash explodes.
#2195 [14:10] <AG_Scott> By the way, I haven't found anyone cheaper :D
#2196 [14:10] <meeee> do anybody know where the tutorial for the 50 x50 mob trap is its in any minecraft forum but i didnt find it again im searching about 30 minutes can anybody help? :)
#2197 [14:10] <gothroach> Do you really need a tutorial to build a mob trap?
#2198 [14:10] <Mash> gothroach, some people are new.
#2199 [14:10] <AG_Scott> We host some of the more popular servers and they seem happy with their dedis so I guess we're doing good, hehe.
#2200 [14:10] <meeee> no only for the wate lines that conecct in one area
#2201 [14:11] <meeee> i try but it doesent work
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#2203 [14:11] <Mash> AG_Scott, how hard are you guys on monitoring your customers' content?
#2204 [14:11] <Mrikiwi> Hi everybody
#2205 [14:11] <AG_Scott> The datacenter actually got raided by the FBI in January XD
#2206 [14:11] <SkiingPenguins> o.O
#2207 [14:11] <Mash> Who was hosting r@ygold shit?
#2208 [14:11] <AG_Scott> Something about an Anon irc server
#2209 [14:12] <Mash> o
#2210 [14:12] <Mash> nevermind my previous comment.
#2211 [14:12] <AG_Scott> If it's illegal, no.
#2212 [14:12] <AG_Scott> If it's not, by all means.
#2213 [14:12] <Mash> I mean I occasionally post something I've pirated for relocation or retrieval at another location. It's never distributed though :x
#2214 [14:13] <Mrikiwi> Someone can help me ? I have a problem when lauching minecraft ... :/ (sorry for bad english , i'm french ;) )
#2215 [14:13] <AG_Scott> We're also strict on people sending proper DMCA notifications.
#2216 [14:13] <Mash> Mrikiwi; what kind of error?
#2217 [14:13] <Mash> And where's GreyVulpine, normally he handles all the weirdness.
#2218 [14:13] <AG_Scott> If they don't send a properly formatted notification, they get ignored. :>
#2219 [14:14] <Mrikiwi> When i log in , the game load and shut down ... and it drop on my desk a "hs_err_pidxxxx" .txt =/
#2220 [14:14] <Mash> Kansas city Kansas or Missourri?
#2221 [14:14] <Mash> er, -1 r
#2222 [14:14] <AG_Scott> Dedis are in dallas now
#2223 [14:14] <Mash> oh
#2224 [14:14] <AG_Scott> we quit using the datacenter in kc mo
#2225 [14:14] <Mash> Yeh, site needs updating then.
#2226 [14:14] <Mash> Oh goodie.
#2227 [14:14] <AG_Scott> well, we quit putting servers there.
#2228 [14:15] <gothroach> AG_Scott: Which company?
#2229 [14:15] <Mrikiwi> I could play this morning , but since afternoon i can't . T____T
#2230 [14:15] <Mash> You want from (some non-racial dis about the south) to the city of dicks.
#2231 [14:15] <Mash> Epic.
#2232 [14:15] <AG_Scott> Colo4 in Dallas
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#2234 [14:15] <AG_Scott> We colo at Joe's Datacenter in kcmo
#2235 [14:16] <Mash> Why is CentOS on the top of the list?.. BAD.
#2236 [14:16] <Mash> Ubuntu / Debian / RedHat(Fedora) / Cent / Slackware
#2237 [14:16] <AG_Scott> Because CentOS is an enterprise linux distro?
#2238 [14:16] <Kealper> eew ubuntu
#2239 [14:16] <AG_Scott> I love ubuntu :(
#2240 [14:16] <Mash> ^
#2241 [14:16] <luckz> <@Kealper> eew ubuntu
#2242 [14:16] <AG_Scott> Not sure I will when 11.04 rolls around though.
#2243 [14:17] <AG_Scott> I may be jumping ship to Fedora
#2244 [14:17] <Mrikiwi> nobody can help me ?
#2245 [14:17] <AG_Scott> or a Ubuntu spin off.
#2246 [14:17] <Kealper> i don't like the way it's going lately :/
#2247 [14:17] <AG_Scott> This unity crap is BS.
#2248 [14:17] <Kealper> i have taken a liking to Arch lately.....it's so fast....lol
#2249 [14:17] <Mash> Mrikiwi; Is it not connecting or does it say any error?
#2250 [14:17] <Mash> I'm a lubix nab though, I still think KDE looks better than Gnomeo.
#2251 [14:18] * Kealper cringes
#2251 [14:18] <luckz> X isn't exactly that useful on a server :P
#2252 [14:18] <gothroach> AG_Scott: What's your rough pricing for a 2u/2a colo? :P
#2253 [14:18] <AG_Scott> My significant other and I don't like KDE.
#2254 [14:18] <AG_Scott> I used it when I first started using linux and I don't like it now.
#2255 [14:18] <Mash> x is useful when you do occasionally sit in front of the machine though.
#2256 [14:18] <AG_Scott> gothroach, we don't do colo. you should get a price from colo4 though
#2257 [14:18] <Mash> And want to, idk, watch porn on the off hours.
#2258 [14:18] <gothroach> Aah, okay.
#2259 [14:18] <AG_Scott> their premium network is pretty good.
#2260 [14:18] <Mrikiwi> Mash : I log-in , there is a loading bar , it saying "Loading Done" and the window close by itself
#2261 [14:19] <luckz> I don't like kde, I don't like gnome, I find xfce pretty decent, e pretty hilarious, and I forgot the name of that other one that was pretty decent
#2262 [14:19] <Mash> Mrikiwi; have you tried reinstalling Java?
#2263 [14:19] <Mrikiwi> and after , there is a new text file on me desk which is called "hs_err_pid*random number*"
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#2265 [14:20] <Mash> How does one attract the attention of an Op (that actually helps people) in here?
#2266 [14:20] <luckz> Mrikiwi: have you tried deleting the game binaries in %APPDATA%\.minecraft and running minecraft.exe again?
#2267 [14:20] <GoodmanHR> need some help with bying the game plz pm me
#2268 [14:20] <SkiingPenguins> Voxel: help Mash
#2269 [14:20] <luckz> GoodmanHR: PMs are evil, what's your problem?
#2270 [14:20] <Mrikiwi> I tried to reinstallign Java , graphic card's drivers , reboot computer , download the game , delete the .minecraft in AppData ...
#2271 [14:20] <Mash> Mrikiwi; can you copy that new text file and put it in PasteBin, then send link here?
#2272 [14:20] <meeee> do anybody know where the tutorial for the 50 x50 mob trap is its in any minecraft forum but i didnt find it again im searching about 30 minutes can anybody help? :)
#2273 [14:21] <GoodmanHR> ive tried to buy the game with my credit card and it sauid that there was a mistake..
#2274 [14:21] <Mash> meeee; no, I don't know of any tutorials, please quit spamming that message.
#2275 [14:21] <GoodmanHR> its not the first time i buy thing throutgh internet with it...
#2276 [14:21] <Mrikiwi> And finally i did a system restore at this mornign (when i could play) but it's doesn't work .. :x
#2277 [14:21] <luckz> did the coffee captain person stop spamming his stuff?
#2278 [14:21] <meeee> im not spamming and may any other knew
#2279 [14:21] <GoodmanHR> firts time i have problem and not i cannot access to the website
#2280 [14:21] <luckz> GoodmanHR: via paypal or is there some new directly via credit card way?
#2281 [14:21] <Mash> Mrikiwi; can you copy that new text file and put it in PasteBin, then send link here?
#2282 [14:22] <Mrikiwi> Ok ; but what is PasteBin ? ^^'
#2283 [14:22] <GoodmanHR> i tried it via credit card thetre was 2 choice...
#2284 [14:22] <GoodmanHR> paypal and credit card
#2285 [14:22] <Mash> Mrikiwi; http://pastebin.com It's like online notepad you can send to other people ^^
#2286 [14:22] <RunemHectosin> choose one?
#2287 [14:23] <luckz> GoodmanHR: you can try clicking paypal and then using a credit card via paypal, I guess
#2288 [14:23] <Mrikiwi> http://pastebin.com/9czwWBv7
#2289 [14:23] <GoodmanHR> maybe but i cannot access website anymore
#2290 [14:23] <GoodmanHR> look like im ban
#2291 [14:24] <GoodmanHR> 500 Servlet Exception
#2292 [14:24] <gothroach> That's not banned.
#2293 [14:24] <luckz> are you behind a proxy or so? :o
#2294 [14:24] <Mrikiwi> it seems to be a Java error but i have the lastest version ... and this morning the game was working :x
#2295 [14:24] <GoodmanHR> java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#2296 [14:24] <GoodmanHR> nop
#2297 [14:24] <Mash> Mikiwi; Er, shit. That's a stack error again. Can you wait for GreyVulpine to log into IRC later today?
#2298 [14:24] <gothroach> That's a server-side error, just refresh it later? :P
#2299 [14:24] <Mash> Mikiwi; he knows more about that then I do
#2300 [14:24] <GoodmanHR> it was working till i tried 3 time to make the transaction
#2301 [14:24] <Mrikiwi> Ok , i can wait ^^
#2302 [14:25] <Mrikiwi> what is a stack error ? :p
#2303 [14:25] <Mash> Mrikiwi it will be a few hours
#2304 [14:25] <Mash> Mrikiwi; it's pointers going bad usually from a DLL failing to load it's objects properly. I think it's because your GPU/chip doesn't support the game.
#2305 [14:25] <Mash> Simply put, anyway
#2306 [14:26] <luckz> GoodmanHR: would reconnecting your internet connection give you a different IP?
#2307 [14:26] <luckz> Mash: but considering he played earlier..
#2308 [14:26] <GoodmanHR> yes and i already did it
#2309 [14:26] <luckz> Mrikiwi: do you have aaaaany ideas what could have changed in the hours inbetween?
#2310 [14:26] <Mrikiwi> Mash but i played this morning :o
#2311 [14:26] <Mash> luckz; Which is why I asked him to wait for GreyVulpine, because that doesn't make any sense to me
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#2313 [14:26] <luckz> GoodmanHR: you can also try deleting cookies, mhpf, maybe wait a few minutes..
#2314 [14:26] <Mash> Mrikiwii I know, that's why we need GreyVulpine, because I don't know enough about that.. And I know you were playing earlier.
#2315 [14:27] <GoodmanHR> ill try to delete the cookie
#2316 [14:27] <Mash> Mrikiwi; were you playing on that same computer today?
#2317 [14:27] <Mash> or different computer?
#2318 [14:27] <Mrikiwi> no idea ... i played this morning , i turn off the computer , i strolled on the beach , turn on the cumputer , try to play and ... :/
#2319 [14:27] <Mash> oh
#2320 [14:28] <Mash> You said you already tried new video drivers?
#2321 [14:28] <Mrikiwi> yes
#2322 [14:28] <Mash> What drivers?
#2323 [14:28] <Dpunkt> Can I play Minecraft with a pentium III @450Mhz, 128 MB Ram?
#2324 [14:28] <luckz> was there a system update or anything?
#2325 [14:28] <luckz> Dpunkt: nope
#2326 [14:28] <Dpunkt> awee
#2327 [14:29] <Mrikiwi> 1 moment plz :p
#2328 [14:29] <Mash> Dpunkt, well.. technically 'yes' if it's got an APG slot and you throw something comparable to a GeForce4 in it.. But at 1fps you'll be crying your way through the blocks, rather than chopping them.
#2329 [14:29] <luckz> Mrikiwi: so has windows update been poking you about updates, did you install any new applications, uninstall any programs.. anything before that shutdown?
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#2331 [14:29] <GoodmanHR> yes look like it work
#2332 [14:29] <Mash> luckz; gotta give them hope man.
#2333 [14:30] <Mrikiwi> i didn't install anything
#2334 [14:30] <Dpunkt> hm, ok it has a stoneage ati mobile card, not sure if it even handle open gl
#2335 [14:30] <luckz> it needs open gl 2.0 I think?
#2336 [14:30] <Mash> Then luckz was right; not a snowballs chance in hell
#2337 [14:31] <GoodmanHR> if i buy the game with paypal will i be able to play now?
#2338 [14:31] <Mrikiwi> I tried : reinstalling java / update drivers ( VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP) / re-download the game (the two links) / reboot PC / system restore at this morning
#2339 [14:31] <luckz> GoodmanHR: I don't know how fast unlocking is this days, when I bought it it was very fast, I know other people had to wait a couple of hours at various points in time
#2340 [14:31] <Dpunkt> another question: a friend of mine has some pc, with some intel dualcore. But his radeon died, so hi inserted some old geforce 2 - any way to run the game?
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#2342 [14:32] <GoodmanHR> ok thx for your help!
#2343 [14:32] <devileh> Hey guys, still mismatch between newest version of client and server?
#2344 [14:32] <luckz> no, Dpunkt
#2345 [14:33] <luckz> geforce 6 is the first one with > opengl 2.l0
#2346 [14:33] <devileh> Did a clean download of both to ensure up to date versions and I get the whole "wrong version" think going on when trying to connect to my own server.
#2347 [14:33] <Mash> luckz; can a Savage3-G even play MC?
#2348 [14:33] <luckz> *2.0
#2349 [14:33] <luckz> Mash: so your geforce 4 or what you said does not work either
#2350 [14:33] <luckz> even gf 5 only has opengl 1.5
#2351 [14:33] <luckz> and gf4 has ogl 1.4
#2352 [14:33] <Mash> Oh
#2353 [14:33] <Mash> My bad.
#2354 [14:33] <Dpunkt> how can such a simple game have that high requierments
#2355 [14:33] <Mash> So he'd have to toss a 6200+ in it to get his 1fps. xD
#2356 [14:33] <luckz> Dpunkt: java etc
#2357 [14:33] <luckz> Dpunkt: and "nobody cares"
#2358 [14:33] <Mash> ^ that.
#2359 [14:33] <luckz> Dpunkt: see how any modern OS wastes resources
#2360 [14:34] <Dpunkt> jeah
#2361 [14:34] <luckz> people need to sell new fancy hardware somehow
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#2363 [14:34] <Mogen> hi
#2364 [14:34] <xales> hi
#2365 [14:34] <xales> devileh: update the server
#2366 [14:34] <Dpunkt> but much of my friends try to play minecraft on 2 year old pcs and got <10 FPS
#2367 [14:34] <devileh> xales: i did
#2368 [14:34] <Dpunkt> i think that that is not good
#2369 [14:34] <Mash> A perfect example of wtf-resource-hog would be modern drivers. 200mbs for vid-drivers.. ? srsly.
#2370 [14:34] <luckz> Dpunkt: it works fine on my 6 year old PC and on my 1 year old PC
#2371 [14:34] <Mogen> does anyone know why i cant build (admin) near spawn, but my friend (admin) can?
#2372 [14:34] <GoodmanHR> is there any ways i can know when my account is activated?
#2373 [14:35] <luckz> Dpunkt: so maybe your friends have PCs that already were awful 2 years ago?
#2374 [14:35] <xales> devileh: the server is 1.3, the client is 1.3_01?
#2375 [14:35] <luckz> (or are doing something wrong)
#2376 [14:35] <xales> Mogen: you need to be an op to build at the spawn
#2377 [14:35] <devileh> xales:aye
#2378 [14:35] <luckz> Mogen: does "admin" means ops.txt?
#2379 [14:35] <Mogen> im using MCAdmin
#2380 [14:35] <luckz> Mogen: you both need to be listed in a separate line in ops.txt
#2381 [14:35] <xales> devileh: and what, exactly, does it say?
#2382 [14:35] <xales> Mogen: we don't provide support for mcadmin
#2383 [14:35] <luckz> I have no idea how your bizarre administration utility works, I'm also pretty sure that is not supported here
#2384 [14:35] <Mogen> k
#2385 [14:35] <devileh> xakes:its one helluva line of error
#2386 [14:35] <Dpunkt> no, they weren't that bad - most thinks run pretty good, but i can't find a reason why minecraft get that low fps
#2387 [14:35] <Mash> Mrikiwi; yes, you'll have to wait until GreyVulpine logs on to help.. Sorry :(
#2388 [14:36] <Mogen> ops.txt?
#2389 [14:36] <devileh> xales: ill fetch it. basciallly, acording to forums and such, it means mismatch of versions.
#2390 [14:36] <Mrikiwi> Mash no problem , you guys are nice to tried to help me :)
#2391 [14:36] <xales> Mrikiwi: what's the problem you are having?
#2392 [14:36] <Mash> He was playing fine earlier, went for a stroll on the beach, now he can't.
#2393 [14:36] <Mash> http://pastebin.com/9czwWBv7
#2394 [14:37] <Mash> There's his err log.
#2395 [14:37] <Mrikiwi> good summary xD
#2396 [14:37] <devileh> xales: can't start minecraft now, seems it can't login.
#2397 [14:37] <Mash> Someone else had that same error yesterday, can't remember who though.
#2398 [14:37] <xales> ??> Mrikiwi win/dxdiag
#2399 [14:37] <VoxelHead> Mrikiwi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2400 [14:38] <VoxelHead> Mrikiwi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2401 [14:38] <Mash> Mrikiwi; Did you update minecraft today?
#2402 [14:38] <xales> devileh: server might be down or something
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#2404 [14:38] <devileh> xales: something about "java.io.utfdataformatexception" and a random one digit number behind.
#2405 [14:38] <Mrikiwi> I dl minecraft this morning
#2406 [14:38] <devileh> xales: I can connect, and it starts downloading terrain, but quite quickly crashes.
#2407 [14:38] <xales> devileh: are you using ZoneAlarm?
#2408 [14:38] <Mash> ok, please do what VoxelHead said ^^
#2409 [14:39] <devileh> xales: Yeah, but both minecraft, the minecraft server and hamachi are on the exceptionlist
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#2411 [14:39] <xales> there's the problem
#2412 [14:39] <Mrikiwi> xales i do it , wait a moment
#2413 [14:39] <Mash> Hamachi
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#2415 [14:39] <xales> ZoneAlarm is a piece of shit
#2416 [14:39] <xales> uninstall it, and it will work
#2417 [14:39] <Mash> or that
#2418 [14:39] <xales> (also don't use Hamachi)
#2419 [14:39] <Mash> We have routers.. why do people run firewalls?
#2420 [14:39] <xales> ^
#2421 [14:40] <Myhand> Does anyone know how to make it so everyone can use the /tp command but nobody can use the /give command?
#2422 [14:40] <Mash> I mean unless you download stupid shit and get all infected, but srsly
#2423 [14:40] <devileh> xales: port forwarding is a b**** on my router
#2424 [14:40] <xales> Myhand: something like the Permissions mod for Bukkit
#2425 [14:40] <xales> Mash: even then, it's too late. blocking outbound connections will get you nothing
#2426 [14:40] <xales> ??> devileh fubar/hamachi
#2427 [14:40] <VoxelHead> devileh: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internat. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2428 [14:40] <gothroach> devileh: Gogo pfSense? :)
#2429 [14:40] <VoxelHead> devileh: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
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#2431 [14:41] <Mrikiwi> DxDiag ==> http://pastebin.com/0dBAk9j7
#2432 [14:41] <xales> holy shit
#2433 [14:41] <xales> I see why that doesn't run
#2434 [14:41] <xales> ._.
#2435 [14:41] <Mash> xales; only thing I've ever needed a firewall for was to block "argh" software from connecting to it's key-verification servers lol
#2436 [14:41] <Mrikiwi> ?
#2437 [14:41] <xales> you don't meet any of the minimum requirements for Minecraf
#2438 [14:41] <xales> t
#2439 [14:42] <xales> you don't have even close to enough RAM
#2440 [14:42] <xales> that video card doesn't support any modern technology that Minecraft requires
#2441 [14:42] <Mrikiwi> very old cumputer <___< but why i could play this morning so ?
#2442 [14:42] <Mash> xales; He was playing it earlier.
#2443 [14:42] <devileh> Wow, 400mbs of ram?
#2444 [14:42] <xales> Mash: doesn't really matter
#2445 [14:42] <Mash> 512mb rounded down
#2446 [14:42] <xales> the problem is with one of the drivers
#2447 [14:42] <devileh> mash: don't the requirments increase as the world expands?
#2448 [14:42] <xales> meaning it's a hardware issue
#2449 [14:43] <Mash> devileh, i would expect so
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#2451 [14:43] <xales> actually, they don't, Mash, devileh
#2452 [14:43] <xales> the only thing that a larger world does is take up more HDD space
#2453 [14:43] <devileh> xales: wohoo, ZoneAlarm was the culprit.
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#2455 [14:43] <devileh> not RAM?
#2456 [14:44] <xales> no
#2457 [14:44] <Mash> ^
#2458 [14:44] <xales> it doesn't load the entire world into RAM
#2459 [14:44] <Mash> Mine does!
#2460 [14:44] <xales> only the chunks closest to you (10 or something like that)
#2461 [14:44] <Mash> I ramdisked my client.
#2462 [14:44] <Mash> Fuck that slowloadlaggystuffs.
#2463 [14:44] <xales> :P
#2464 [14:44] <Mrikiwi> So , i can't play on this computer ? (it's my father computer , i come back home in 1 week)
#2465 [14:45] <Mash> Mrikiwi; I don't know why it worked at all today, it shouldn't have.. You were just very lucky it worked lol
#2466 [14:45] <Mash> xales; would the browser version work any better for him?
#2467 [14:45] <xales> no
#2468 [14:45] <xales> it won't run at all
#2469 [14:45] <Mrikiwi> T_T i want to be lucky this evening one more time
#2470 [14:45] <Mash> Mrikiwi; I tried :(
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#2473 [14:46] <Carole> afternoon!
#2474 [14:46] <timma> i just found this game today, what is the point of it?
#2475 [14:46] <Mash> Slightly-before-noon to yourself too, Carole.
#2476 [14:46] <Mrikiwi> Ok , thanks for all guys , i'm going to try again and again ... maybe it will work ! xD
#2477 [14:46] <Mash> Timma playing with your imagination.
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#2479 [14:46] <Carole> it's lego on the computer timma. ;)
#2480 [14:46] <pennachi> Hello!
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#2482 [14:46] <timma> ahh
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#2484 [14:46] <halp> Anyone having success running classic minecraft servers right now?
#2485 [14:47] <xales> someone probably is, not me
#2486 [14:47] <Mash> same.
#2487 [14:47] <Carole> so I figured out what my issue playing the game was! minecraft hates Vista!
#2488 [14:47] <xales> I don't run classic servers
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#2490 [14:47] <pennachi> I just bought the beta 1.3 and I am looking for a good server, any suggestions?
#2491 [14:47] <xales> ??> pennachi smp/servers
#2492 [14:47] <devileh> Carole: Wrong. Vista hates all games.
#2493 [14:47] <xales> hmm
#2494 [14:47] <Mash> I was barked at for mentioning my public server, so no, I don't know of any others.
#2495 [14:47] <xales> where did that bot go
#2496 [14:47] <VoxelHead> pennachi: (smp/servers) This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#2497 [14:47] <xales> ._.
#2498 [14:47] <VoxelHead> pennachi: (smp/servers) You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#2499 [14:47] <Carole> well, yes, that is true too. ;)
#2500 [14:47] <xales> laggy POS
#2501 [14:47] <halp> I'm having no problems with Vista, and you should not either. It's java
#2502 [14:47] <pennachi> Thanks
#2503 [14:47] <Mash> Carole; devileh; I ran vista for like 2 years, I enjoyed the piss out of it, never had an issue.
#2504 [14:47] <devileh> If I had Vista, I'd uninstall it and run DOS.
#2505 [14:48] <Carole> which version of java are you running halp? I thought it was java myself
#2506 [14:48] <halp> DOS 2.0 ftw
#2507 [14:48] <xales> I don't use Windows :)
#2508 [14:48] <Carole> I miss DOS
#2509 [14:48] <devileh> Mash: Then you're pretty much alone.
#2510 [14:48] <xales> Microsoft products are all garbage
#2511 [14:48] <Mash> That's just it's bad rep, it really isn't a bad OS.
#2512 [14:48] <devileh> DOS was the shizz
#2513 [14:48] <halp> Let me check
#2514 [14:48] <Mrikiwi> Bye all , i'll come back later :) (and thanks :p)
#2515 [14:48] <xales> Mash, it pretty much was :P
#2516 [14:48] <Mash> devileh; Maybe I just build better machines? :o
#2517 [14:48] <devileh> Mash: It totally was.
#2518 [14:48] <devileh> Mash: Uses more resources, is more annoying, less compatible and generally horrible.
#2519 [14:49] <Carole> hey, look, I WORKED for MS when ME came out. Vista is pure gold in comparison. ;)
#2520 [14:49] <halp> I am running Java version 1.6.0_22
#2521 [14:49] <xales> halp: that's a bit old now, you should probably update :P
#2522 [14:49] <Mash> It only seemed like it sucked down so much more because we've all been living on XP (which is now 11 years old, mind you) for so damn long.
#2523 [14:49] <Carole> ok, I'm runnin 1.6.0_24... which maybe is the issue
#2524 [14:49] <devileh> Carole: That's like saying leprecy is better than dying.
#2525 [14:49] <RunemHectosin> there we are..
#2526 [14:49] <halp> Will do, Xales
#2527 [14:49] <Carole> devileh: you know it!
#2528 [14:50] <Mash> I remember running leaked betas of XP; it was a POS that sucked up a crapton of resources too!
#2529 [14:50] <Carole> MS (internal) tagline for XP was: XP! it sucks less than ME!
#2530 [14:50] <RunemHectosin> hey Mash
#2531 [14:50] <devileh> Then Vista came: We just plain hate our customers.
#2532 [14:50] <Mash> Shut up? :(
#2533 [14:50] * Mash hushes.
#2533 [14:51] <RunemHectosin> no
#2534 [14:51] <RunemHectosin> I was going to say
#2535 [14:51] <RunemHectosin> I bought it, happy now?
#2536 [14:51] <Carole> I hear win 7's pretty good... time for an upgrade
#2537 [14:51] <Mash> Actually I am.. I bet Notch will appreciate it too.
#2538 [14:51] <devileh> RumeHectosin: YOU should be happy :)
#2539 [14:51] <Mash> I <3 the piss out of 7.
#2540 [14:51] <AG_Scott> i just dont have a reason to use windows for every day use anymore...
#2541 [14:51] <halp> I'll brb
#2542 [14:52] <Mash> I'd worship the ground it walked on if only it walked.
#2543 [14:52] <Carole> pfft, every system in the house is on XP except for mine (because it came with Vista and they wouldn't give me a downgrade)
#2544 [14:52] <Mash> So instead I just toss a $1400 at it every year. =D
#2545 [14:52] <devileh> Windows 7 is actually great.
#2546 [14:52] <Mash> So that it'll have nice new hardware to play with.
#2547 [14:52] <Carole> and I'm too freakin lazy to blow my system away and reformat it with XP. ;)
#2548 [14:52] <AG_Scott> you know how microsoft says life without walls?
#2549 [14:53] <AG_Scott> Who need Windows without walls? :>
#2550 [14:53] <Carole> LOL Scott!
#2551 [14:53] <Mash> Never thought of it that way.
#2552 [14:53] <devileh> people who have windows on the floor
#2553 [14:53] <Carole> yet.... in minecraft, you can HAVE windows without walls......
#2554 [14:53] <Mash> ohohoh!
#2555 [14:53] <devileh> technically, you can have windows in a wall-less home, just have them as chairs or lying around.
#2556 [14:54] <Mash> Has anyone seen Yahtzee's review of Minecraft? It's BRILLIANT.
#2557 [14:54] <Mash> With a capital B.
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#2560 [14:54] <timma> does the server being down mean NONE of the servers listed can be joined?
#2561 [14:55] <Carole> so tell me, what's the game like multiplayer vs single player? I've only played it single player so far. been eaten by zombies, blown up, set myself on fire, drown myself, died in a sandslide... ummmm....
#2562 [14:55] <Mash> It's better because you get to see what other nerds have thought of.
#2563 [14:55] <timma> @carole i have only been able to dig holes
#2564 [14:55] <Carole> hehehehe
#2565 [14:55] <halp> Multiplayer is full of Trolls who wait until you're 99% complete with a huge tower, then they rush to delete the bottom out of it as fast as they can
#2566 [14:55] <Carole> took me forever to figure out you stuck the torches on the freakin wall
#2567 [14:55] <Carole> LOL
#2568 [14:55] <Mash> Yahtzee's review: "Minecraft is as popular among nerds as a 6-button mouse with tits."
#2569 [14:56] <Carole> WHAHAHAH I love it!
#2570 [14:56] <devileh> timma: it's more fun when you decide to to really ambitious stuff like build a glass castle floating in the air, with a personal zombie-spawner in the dungeon.
#2571 [14:56] <kaane> auf meinen Server kommt es vor, dass man am Spawnpunkt direkt Schaden bekommt und schliesslich stirbt, hat da jemand eine Idee? Spawnpunkt verlegen hat nicht wirklich geholfen
#2572 [14:56] <Carole> ok, here's a newbie question: can I MAKE string? or only find it on monsters or in chests?
#2573 [14:56] <kaane> oh damn
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#2575 [14:57] <devileh> String is scary at first^^
#2576 [14:57] <halp> String is from spiders, which can then be used to create wool. I do not think you can create it any other way
#2577 [14:57] <Mrkrabz> Is there any animal mods that adds more animals in 1.3_01?
#2578 [14:57] <halp> or create bows*
#2579 [14:57] <Carole> well, seems to me, you'd make it out of wool... not the other way around. ;)
#2580 [14:57] <kaane> on my server people get damage at the spawn point while the screen is black, setspawn didnt help, any idea what that is?
#2581 [14:57] <xales> kaane: do you have any mods on the server?
#2582 [14:58] <halp> make sure the spawn point is at x:0, y:64, Z:0
#2583 [14:58] <xales> Mrkrabz: this channel doesn't exist to find things for you
#2584 [14:58] <kaane> yes, essentials, worldedit, worldguard etc
#2585 [14:58] <xales> look on the forum
#2586 [14:58] <xales> if you can't find it
#2587 [14:58] <xales> it doesn't exist
#2588 [14:58] <devileh> dear lord that "dungeon is nearby"-music still scares the water out of me.
#2589 [14:58] <xales> kaane: try running it without any of the mods
#2590 [14:58] <Mash> Carole; Yahtzee's review of MineCraft: http://bit.ly/dXjq3J
#2591 [14:58] <halp> No kidding devileh haha
#2592 [14:59] <devileh> god damn skeletons. wish there was a HUGE HAMMER mod
#2593 [14:59] <Carole> oh god, I watched this... with his whole rant on building a solid gold giant penis....?
#2594 [14:59] <kaane> ok, im trying what halp suggests and then disable mods, thanks so gar
#2595 [15:00] <halp> When i try to generate a server, i'm not getting my external URL. could this be a problem communicating with minecraft.net?
#2596 [15:00] <devileh> carole: nevermind the gold penis, what you should be looking out for are the 5 foot tall green kamikaze penises.
#2597 [15:00] <Mash> "golden cock and balls", yes.
#2598 [15:00] <xales> halp: a Classic server?
#2599 [15:00] <halp> Yes, classic
#2600 [15:00] <Carole> devileh: yeah, the one who blow up, woot!
#2601 [15:00] <xales> are you sure it's the correct software?
#2602 [15:01] <halp> downloaded from minecraft.net -> classic multiplayer "Click here to host your own server"
#2603 [15:01] <xales> it's probably down then
#2604 [15:01] <xales> try again later
#2605 [15:01] <xales> come back if it still doesn't work
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#2607 [15:01] * xales doesn't really do anything with Classic servers
#2607 [15:02] <halp> It seems pretty often that minecraft.net is down or having problems. sigh
#2608 [15:02] <Mash> ohoh! Now that I ramdisked the client, I can probably run 256x256 texture packs without the performance hit.
#2609 [15:02] <Carole> well, it's still in beta. can't expect it to work all the time
#2610 [15:03] <halp> 256x256 plz lol :)
#2611 [15:03] <Carole> so... Notch has sold over a million copies at 15 pounds each... I think I want to marry him.
#2612 [15:03] <Carole> :D
#2613 [15:03] <xales> Carole: he only gets 40% of each sale, if not less
#2614 [15:04] <Mash> I'd marry him just so I could smack him upside the head and get him to give us pressure-plates for TRACKS, and switchable-T junctions that you can control while actually riding in a f*cking cart.
#2615 [15:04] <Carole> who's eating up the rest of his profits? running the server?
#2616 [15:04] <devileh> mash: link?
#2617 [15:04] <xales> no; tax and Paypal frees
#2618 [15:04] <xales> fees*
#2619 [15:04] <xales> Swedish income tax is...yeah
#2620 [15:04] <Mash> devileh; for the textures?
#2621 [15:04] <devileh> aye
#2622 [15:04] <Mash> Sec
#2623 [15:04] <Carole> that's why I paid him direct in via mastercard... but still, 40% of 2 million pounds isn't a bad deal.
#2624 [15:05] <Carole> Swedish income tax is pretty much equivalent to Canadian income tax, so it doesn't shock or scare me. ;)
#2625 [15:05] <Mash> devileh; Photo-Realism 256x256 textures (Makes MC look like MOH but with squares.) http://bit.ly/fgYWyq
#2626 [15:05] <devileh> K, so what's the tallest tree you guys have seen in MC? just had one at 13 squares(think it might have been to trees growing on eachother)
#2627 [15:06] <halp> Awesome link mash
#2628 [15:06] <Mash> halp: the review or the textures?
#2629 [15:06] <halp> i made one into the clouds, devileh (creative)
#2630 [15:06] <halp> the textures mash
#2631 [15:06] <Mash> Ah.
#2632 [15:08] <Carole> I'm still learning the game, so I don't know how tall the trees can get. they sure grow fast when you plant 'em though
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#2634 [15:08] <Carole> is the music an audio cue or is it just random?
#2635 [15:08] <xales> random
#2636 [15:09] <Carole> I was finding that I'd hear music and find a node of ore of some sort, but it must have been coincidence
#2637 [15:09] <relsqui> yeah, that's a coincidence. SOME music indicates nearby caves but not the regular music
#2638 [15:09] <Carole> I like hearing zombies under my feet
#2639 [15:09] <devileh> Think the only other really cool texture ive seen for minecraft was one inspiried by my fav game Borderlands.
#2640 [15:10] <RunemHectosin> where should I look for servers >.>
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#2644 [15:13] <devileh> Mash: Just unpack in minecraft folder and find using "mods/textures" option ingame?
#2645 [15:13] <Mash> No
#2646 [15:13] <Mash> As it states on the page I linked, you need the HD Texture Pack Installer
#2647 [15:13] <mang0> runemhectosin
#2648 [15:13] <mang0> let me get you a link
#2649 [15:14] <Mash> devileh: http://bit.ly/dA8P0k
#2650 [15:14] <Mash> HD Texture Pack fix
#2651 [15:14] <mang0> http://mcserverlist.net/ runemhectosin
#2652 [15:14] <RunemHectosin> thank you
#2653 [15:15] <mang0> :)
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#2655 [15:16] <Charile> Hello
#2656 [15:16] <Charile> :o Nevermind...
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#2658 [15:16] <RunemHectosin> what the fff
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#2661 [15:24] <RunemHectosin> wow this is sad >_>
#2662 [15:24] <luckz> sad!
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#2664 [15:25] <RunemHectosin> playin a 360 game with my bro.. I suck at sniping... I'm 9 and 7
#2665 [15:25] <RunemHectosin> 2-3 of those are with a PISTOL
#2666 [15:25] <luckz> you are 9 and 7 years old at the same time?
#2667 [15:25] <luckz> sounds gr8
#2668 [15:25] <luckz> time for TV
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#2671 [15:36] <izzd> is a 100 slot smp server a bad idea?
#2672 [15:37] <RunemHectosin> possibly
#2673 [15:38] <AG_Scott> With the right hardware and network, not at all.
#2674 [15:39] <izzd> what would you need roughly?
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#2677 [15:45] <red_snow> hello
#2678 [15:45] <AG_Scott> Hello!
#2679 [15:46] <red_snow> Whats the best way to close out of a putty session?
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#2681 [15:46] <red_snow> i do ctrl+a+d.....it doesn;t do anything
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#2684 [15:47] <AG_Scott> That's to detach a screen session.
#2685 [15:47] <AG_Scott> Just execute "exit" if you want to close it
#2686 [15:47] <red_snow> i tried that but it shuts down the server
#2687 [15:48] <AG_Scott> How are you starting the server?
#2688 [15:48] <red_snow> ./mcserver.sh
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#2690 [15:49] <Winner5740> is the worldmod and mod settings actually part of the options menu?
#2691 [15:49] <Winner5740> because when I click on either of them, my game crashes without any error report.
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#2693 [15:50] <Sinner> Good evening, Good morning, Or whatever time it may be!
#2694 [15:50] <ngc0202> Evening
#2695 [15:50] <RunemHectosin> well my computer is lagging up a storm
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#2697 [15:51] <Winner5740> can anyone help me?
#2698 [15:51] <Sinner> I've heard this rumor that this is the place to go, if you want to ask for help with minecraft? The Question is, Does this also involve installing mods and such?
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#2700 [15:51] <Minni> Just spend 2 hours trying to setup a server - anyone with experiance in this matter, who i might hijack for some aid :)? cheers in advance.
#2701 [15:52] <AG_Scott> red_snow, you need to start it with screen
#2702 [15:52] <AG_Scott> what OS is this?
#2703 [15:52] <red_snow> centOS
#2704 [15:52] <AG_Scott> Are you root?
#2705 [15:52] <Winner5740> because when I click on either of them, my game crashes without any error report.
#2706 [15:52] <red_snow> no
#2707 [15:52] <AG_Scott> or have sudo access?
#2708 [15:52] <Winner5740> is the worldmod and mod settings actually part of the options menu?
#2709 [15:52] <red_snow> i login as another use
#2710 [15:52] <red_snow> but i can be
#2711 [15:53] <red_snow> *user
#2712 [15:53] <AG_Scott> Well, login as root and do: yum install screen
#2713 [15:53] <red_snow> screen is already installed
#2714 [15:53] <AG_Scott> okay go back to your other user and do screen ./mcserver.sh
#2715 [15:53] <red_snow> ok
#2716 [15:54] <AG_Scott> then you can press ctrl +a d
#2717 [15:54] <AG_Scott> and it will detach and you can close putty
#2718 [15:54] <AG_Scott> to bring it back up, reconnect and do screen -r
#2719 [15:54] <Sinner> Yo, Scott? You mind if I steal you for a moment when you are done helping snow?
#2720 [15:54] <AG_Scott> maybe
#2721 [15:54] <Sinner> Or anyone whom has experience with installing mods, for that matter really.
#2722 [15:54] <AG_Scott> This isn't the channel for help with mods.
#2723 [15:55] <AG_Scott> Is it a client mod or server mod?
#2724 [15:55] <Sinner> Then what is that channel?
#2725 [15:55] <Sinner> Client.
#2726 [15:55] <AG_Scott> #risucraft
#2727 [15:55] <Sinner> Ahh.
#2728 [15:55] <Sinner> Thanks!
#2729 [15:55] <AG_Scott> we should get paid for this :(
#2730 [15:55] <Sinner> Wont bother you in here then, Heh.
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#2732 [15:56] <red_snow> thx Scott
#2733 [15:56] <red_snow> :)
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#2735 [15:56] <jconnolly_1995> hello, i was wondering why it says my account is not premium
#2736 [15:57] <jconnolly_1995> Hello?
#2737 [15:58] <AG_Scott> Hi jconnolly_1995
#2738 [15:58] <AG_Scott> What's your username?
#2739 [16:00] <jconnolly_1995> my username is Jconnolly_1995
#2740 [16:00] <AG_Scott> !check Jconnolly_1995
#2741 [16:00] <AG_Scott> oh wait...
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#2743 [16:00] <AG_Scott> hold on while i figure out how to do this
#2744 [16:01] <jconnolly_1995> sorry
#2745 [16:01] <jconnolly_1995> its jconnolly_1995
#2746 [16:01] <AG_Scott> How long ago did you pay?
#2747 [16:01] <jconnolly_1995> i paid around..one second let me check
#2748 [16:02] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine, you there?
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#2750 [16:02] <jconnolly_1995> 2/3/2011 is when i purchased
#2751 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2752 [16:02] <jconnolly_1995> it was around 7:00 i believe
#2753 [16:03] <jconnolly_1995> i have a transaction ID too if you need it
#2754 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> !paid jconnolly_1995
#2755 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Looks fine from here
#2756 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
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#2758 [16:03] <jconnolly_1995> hmm it says that im not a premium when i try multiplayer
#2759 [16:04] <blub3k> hey
#2760 [16:04] <jconnolly_1995> it says login failed
#2761 [16:04] <jconnolly_1995> then i play offline
#2762 [16:04] <Silent_Samurai|Phone> Yo.
#2763 [16:04] <blub3k> is there a way to dump the full map from a server i am logged on
#2764 [16:04] <jconnolly_1995> ALL IS GOOD GUYS
#2765 [16:04] <Mash> GreyVulpine; downloaded reference skin, edited the crap out of it in PS7 (I hate CS) and selected/uploaded to minecraft.net/skin, it's not taking it.
#2766 [16:04] <jconnolly_1995> Im successful now
#2767 [16:04] <jconnolly_1995> thanks for your help :)
#2768 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Heh, alrighty
#2769 [16:04] <Silent_Samurai|Phone> As go steal the map?
#2770 [16:04] <Silent_Samurai|Phone> In
#2771 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Mash - What are you doing to the png when you're editing/saving it?
#2772 [16:06] <Mash> Absolutely nothing, all default options, same size (afaik, lemme double check)
#2773 [16:06] <Mash> It's 64x32
#2774 [16:08] <Silent_Samurai|Phone> I think thats double size.
#2775 [16:08] <Mash> wait
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#2777 [16:08] <Mash> no, stock image is same size
#2778 [16:08] <Mash> is it indexed color or something stupid like that?
#2779 [16:08] <TheNytangel> how do you save texture packs to the minecraft website?
#2780 [16:08] <Mash> I'm hoping 24bit color
#2781 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - You don't
#2782 [16:08] <TheNytangel> ok
#2783 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Texture packs are client-side only
#2784 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Could you perhaps upload your skin somewhere where we can look at it?
#2785 [16:11] <Mash> just trying to test it for now to see how the sides of the legs line up (which side of left/right is towards front/back, etc)
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#2788 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, try SkinEdit? http://solidfiles.com/d/f1ee/
#2789 [16:13] <Mash> GreyVulpine: http://bit.ly/g6vV4t
#2790 [16:13] <ionface> anyone hear about bukkit lately?
#2791 [16:13] <ionface> their bug tracker was still down when I checked last night
#2792 [16:14] <Mash> And I did try SkinEdit, I loaded my image in it and saved the output to a different file and tried uploading that.
#2793 [16:14] <Mash> Still no go.
#2794 [16:14] <ionface> since 1.3 I haven't been able to play on any of my SMPs which all use that
#2795 [16:14] <Mash> ionface; my server's bukkit and I can play fine.
#2796 [16:14] <ionface> Mash, oh well then, I guess I have no problem.
#2797 [16:14] <ionface> silly me
#2798 [16:15] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, you save the skin to your desktop or somewhere, go to your profile on minecraft website, and put the .zip folder as your skin
#2799 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> .... doesn't work like that TheNytangel
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#2801 [16:17] <Mash> Can someone else try re-upping their custom skin to see if just the server's being gay right now?
#2802 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Mash - I just tried using that image, works fine
#2803 [16:17] <Mash> wtf, it won't take mine
#2804 [16:17] <Mash> I'll try it in IE then.. /vomits
#2805 [16:18] <relsqui> Mash: could you not use gay as a pejorative, please? I'm sure you don't actually mean "dur hur I hate gay people" but the habit is a downer anyway.
#2806 [16:19] <Mash> ... right well, if I have to conform to your liked-speech, then nobody else in the chan gets to use retarded or stupid as I'm clinically autistic.
#2807 [16:19] <Mash> Besides, gay means happy.
#2808 [16:20] <relsqui> I don't use "retarded" in the slang sense, for that reason :)
#2809 [16:21] <Mash> I'll "attempt" to remember not to use an amazingly common term for something not working properly (hence the similarity to the sexuality), but I'm not going to spend loads of mental effort to self-censor.
#2810 [16:21] * relsqui blinks
#2810 [16:21] <relsqui> did you just imply that gayness in the other sense refers to sexuality "not working properly"?
#2811 [16:22] <Mash> Square peg doesn't go in the round hole- purpose of sex is to breed, so in the technical, evolutionary sense, yes.. I said exactly that.
#2812 [16:22] <relsqui> -_-
#2813 [16:22] <Mash> But for the sake of possibly offending someone, I'll shut up now.
#2814 [16:22] <relsqui> okay, we're on different enough pages that we don't have common ground for this conversation
#2815 [16:22] <Mash> relsqui: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTJ
#2816 [16:23] <Mash> Not in relation to homosexuality.
#2817 [16:23] <AG_Scott> Wow, that's offensive.
#2818 [16:23] <Mash> Hence my shutting up on the subject.
#2819 [16:24] <relsqui> AG_Scott: yeah. I think I've done as much as I have the energy for right now, though.
#2820 [16:24] <relsqui> I just spent a week hovering over my best friend in the hospital, I'm a little low on that stuff >_<
#2821 [16:24] <Mash> Sorry to hear, hope all ends well.
#2822 [16:24] <relsqui> thanks. it will, it sounds like he's coming home today
#2823 [16:24] <Mash> Glad to hear. :)
#2824 [16:24] <relsqui> I'm hovering from home today and trying to get some work done *g*
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#2826 [16:26] <Mash> relsqui; you check that wiki link I put up?
#2827 [16:27] <AyiBro> hey
#2828 [16:27] <Mash> AyiBro, Hello ^^
#2829 [16:27] <relsqui> no, but I know what Myers-Briggs is
#2830 [16:27] <AyiBro> minecraft is up now right?
#2831 [16:27] <AyiBro> im on it :D
#2832 [16:27] <Mash> It was down?
#2833 [16:27] <AyiBro> anyways I need a list of servers I just bought mc to play multiplayer....
#2834 [16:27] <AG_Scott> Join #smp
#2835 [16:27] <Mash> #smp
#2836 [16:27] <AG_Scott> 0wn'd.
#2837 [16:27] <oldtopman> The topic always says its down
#2838 [16:27] <AyiBro> thanks
#2839 [16:28] <oldtopman> People only really look at it when its down so it works perfectlt!
#2840 [16:29] <relsqui> haha
#2841 [16:30] <relsqui> I can't tell whether it would be distracting to listen to music while doing ASL homework
#2842 [16:30] <relsqui> it's not like I'm using my ears
#2843 [16:30] <AyiBro> someone tell me a good server to play on please
#2844 [16:31] <AyiBro> server ip list is broken -_-
#2845 [16:31] <relsqui> go by #smp and ask
#2846 [16:31] <Shinji> Hi Again i have one Problem When i mining any Stone They will be come back and i dont have them in my Inventar
#2847 [16:32] <Shinji> Iam not in a Respawn Zone
#2848 [16:32] <AyiBro> I did relsqui
#2849 [16:32] <AyiBro> no one is saying anything
#2850 [16:32] <Shinji> After a Server Restart it works but after 2 - 10 minutes i have the same Error
#2851 [16:32] <Shinji> any one a solution for this ?
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#2853 [16:33] <Jackson413> hey guys
#2854 [16:33] <Jackson413> im trying to build a cannon
#2855 [16:33] <Jackson413> and am failing miserably
#2856 [16:34] <Jackson413> is there an update that came out that prevents cannons?
#2857 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no?
#2858 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> I built a cannon the other day, works fine
#2859 [16:34] <Jackson413> can you come to my server and see what im doing wrong?
#2860 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#2861 [16:34] <Jackson413> 24.210.28.18
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#2865 [16:42] <Shinji> no one a solution for this ?
#2866 [16:42] <GarlandJE> can i use the WoM client program on private servers, such as my own? Y/N?
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#2868 [16:43] <GarlandJE> ?
#2869 [16:44] <GarlandJE> someone please answer my question.
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#2871 [16:46] <GarlandJE> nevermind
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#2878 [17:11] <luckz> hi lovebugs
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#2880 [17:12] <Arkose> !paid allenmelon
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#2882 [17:12] <oldtopman> !paid oldtopman
#2883 [17:12] <oldtopman> It works!
#2884 [17:14] <Mash> !paid mashuga
#2885 [17:15] <Mash> java.lang.RuntimeException: No free connections!
#2886 [17:15] <Mash> I hate the web server.
#2887 [17:15] <Mash> They should've hired me to do the portal in Perl, java sucks.
#2888 [17:17] <Mash> GreyVulpine; you said that skin uploaded to minecraft.net just fine for you?
#2889 [17:22] <oldtopman> Mash: The go writ one.
#2890 [17:24] <Mash> oldtopman, what?
#2891 [17:24] <oldtopman> You can write one then can't you?
#2892 [17:24] <Mash> Oh, I'd have to have access to their webserver and sql to actually write a new portal for'em.
#2893 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Mash - Yes
#2894 [17:27] <Mash> I wonder if it's just my computer being gay- none of my browsers are letting me upload, the little preview image never changes and my share link just says "Or not..."
#2895 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Preview has been disabled
#2896 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Do you actually get an error message?
#2897 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> If you upload and nothing comes back but the profile page again, it works
#2898 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Just check in-game
#2899 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> If you do get an error message, paste it here or pastebin
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#2901 [17:30] <IamSquat> Hello.
#2902 [17:30] <IamSquat> Can someone help me?
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#2904 [17:31] <IamSquat> Is anyone able to assist me?
#2905 [17:31] <relsqui> ?? ask
#2906 [17:31] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2907 [17:31] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2908 [17:32] <IamSquat> Alright.. Sorry..
#2909 [17:32] <gws> okay. So the Wiki says that a tree can grow on any dirt or grass block. I placed some dirt and put a sapling on it, and it didn't do anything. It's been several in-game days. Am I missing something?
#2910 [17:32] <qster> !paid qster
#2911 [17:32] <qster> liar!
#2912 [17:32] <relsqui> gws: it needs a lot of vertical space, a lot of light, and someone to have been connected and nearby
#2913 [17:32] <qster> what did I do wrong
#2914 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Also needs light and at least um.. 8 blocks of clearance
#2915 [17:32] <IamSquat> Every time I attempt to join a specific server, I get this error on my minecraft client..
#2916 [17:32] <IamSquat> Internal Exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection Reset
#2917 [17:32] <relsqui> qster: if you only just paid it might take a little while
#2918 [17:33] <gws> eight in all directions, or just up?
#2919 [17:33] <relsqui> just up
#2920 [17:33] <relsqui> qster: if you didn't, make sure you're checking the correct username--look for the email you got when you registered
#2921 [17:33] <qster> oh I know
#2922 [17:33] <qster> !paid qster123
#2923 [17:33] <relsqui> :P
#2924 [17:33] <IamSquat> !IamSquat
#2925 [17:33] <IamSquat> !paid IamSquat
#2926 [17:33] <IamSquat> yay!
#2927 [17:33] <IamSquat> haha
#2928 [17:34] <relsqui> IamSquat: you say you only get it when trying to join a specific server? does it work for other servers?
#2929 [17:34] <gws> okay. The first time was up on the surface (I spawned on a little island out in the middle of nowhere); I recently moved it down underground with several torches
#2930 [17:34] <IamSquat> Yes, I have joined other servers, and it works fine.
#2931 [17:34] <gws> I'll go make sure the cieling is high enough
#2932 [17:34] <relsqui> okay, so, probably on the server end :P what's the IP?
#2933 [17:34] <IamSquat> hold on..
#2934 [17:34] <gws> ceiling. seal-ing. Whatever.
#2935 [17:34] <IamSquat> 75.102.38.235:25565
#2936 [17:34] <relsqui> gws: yeah. tree-growing is a little odd; the wiki has a good bit of detail about exactly how they try to grow
#2937 [17:34] <relsqui> !check 75.102.38.235
#2938 [17:35] <IamSquat> ah..
#2939 [17:35] <relsqui> IamSquat: yeah, it's down or not configured correctly
#2940 [17:35] <IamSquat> ok
#2941 [17:35] <IamSquat> Thanks..
#2942 [17:35] <gws> 'grim', lol
#2943 [17:35] <relsqui> no problem, best of luck
#2944 [17:35] <IamSquat> You guys playin on any servers?
#2945 [17:35] <gws> thank you relsqui
#2946 [17:35] <IamSquat> whats a good one?
#2947 [17:35] <relsqui> gws: you're welcome. good luck!
#2948 [17:35] <relsqui> IamSquat: there's a list somewhere, I forget where. you can also ask around in #smp for suggestions
#2949 [17:36] <Kealper> http://mcserverlist.net
#2950 [17:36] <IamSquat> Yeah, i was on the list.. just a lot of them lag.. You know of any good ones for U.S. people?
#2951 [17:36] <relsqui> yeah, that
#2952 [17:36] <relsqui> heh
#2953 [17:36] <luckz> !paid GoodmanHR
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#2955 [17:39] <oldtopman> lpaid bildramer
#2956 [17:39] <oldtopman> bildramer has NOT paid for Minecraft!
#2957 [17:39] <luckz> yeah you know those lamers, they never pay
#2958 [17:40] <bildramer> >gift
#2959 [17:41] <ssen> What is the command to check if someone has paid?
#2960 [17:41] <relsqui> bildramer: you don't need to defend yourself, he's just lying about the bot output :P
#2961 [17:41] <ssen> !paid, nevermind.
#2962 [17:41] <ssen> what
#2963 [17:41] <ssen> !paid ssen
#2964 [17:41] <ssen> Bullshit
#2965 [17:41] <Kealper> !paid me
#2966 [17:41] <ssen> !paid Noi
#2967 [17:42] <oldtopman> !paid notch
#2968 [17:42] <ssen> Nope
#2969 [17:43] <oldtopman> ^^ It lies!
#2970 [17:43] <luckz> !paid geraldbrent
#2971 [17:43] <relsqui> oldtopman: notch paid in time :P
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#2973 [17:44] <luckz> !paid Notch
#2974 [17:44] <luckz> lies
#2975 [17:44] <geraldbrent> XD
#2976 [17:44] <geraldbrent> Notch has hacked himself an account
#2977 [17:44] <luckz> pretty much
#2978 [17:44] <ssen> Oh goddamn
#2979 [17:45] <ssen> I guess Notch is a real 1337ster ain't he
#2980 [17:45] <Mash> GreyVulpine, that image still won't upload to my account.
#2981 [17:45] <Jackson413> http://furtivehost.com/minecraft.html
#2982 [17:45] <Jackson413> can anyone tell me if it is a ripoff?
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#2986 [17:46] <Mash> $60/mo for 3gbs of ram on god-knows what cpu is a rip, yeah
#2987 [17:46] <luckz> I can't tell you that.
#2988 [17:46] <luckz> I bet AG_Scott has an opinion.
#2989 [17:46] <ssen> Xeon's would make that a good deal
#2990 [17:46] <Mash> And mash, mash is an opinionated c*nt lol
#2991 [17:46] <luckz> yes
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#2993 [17:47] <AG_Scott> damn it
#2994 [17:47] <AG_Scott> he left
#2995 [17:47] <AG_Scott> they're reselling burst.net shitty VPSs
#2996 [17:47] <AKK9> Hi all.
#2997 [17:48] <ssen> How do you know, AG_Scott ?
#2998 [17:48] <AG_Scott> The locations
#2999 [17:48] <Kealper> he knows all
#3000 [17:48] <AKK9> I'd like to create a script/macro for Minecraft, partucularly to send chat messages. Can someone point me in the right direction?
#3001 [17:48] <AG_Scott> No one else sells servers there except burst.net
#3002 [17:48] <Mash> AKK9 I don't know any any way to bind keys to canned msgs.
#3003 [17:48] <ssen> Oh fuck them
#3004 [17:48] <Mash> Or to bind keys in general
#3005 [17:48] <ssen> Their using that generic WHM panel
#3006 [17:49] <ssen> *they're
#3007 [17:49] <Kealper> AKK9: in what language?
#3008 [17:49] <AG_Scott> WHM isn't generic
#3009 [17:49] <AG_Scott> It's the industry standard for webhosting
#3010 [17:50] <AKK9> Well keal, I don't actually know any languages properly. I was hoping there was a mod for MC to do that.
#3011 [17:50] <Kealper> AKK9: best place would be to check around the forums then
#3012 [17:50] <Kealper> the server i get my hosting from uses DirectAdmin :<
#3013 [17:50] <AG_Scott> You might be able to do that with some third pardy app too
#3014 [17:51] <ssen> >Not only that they will give you 1CPU and the processor is 1MB L2 cache based. Your site will going die with overload.
#3015 [17:51] <AG_Scott> cPanel/WHM, Plesk, and DirectAdmin are the common apps.
#3016 [17:51] <ssen> Holy shit, the reviews for burst.net are terrible
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#3018 [17:51] <AG_Scott> ssen, yes.
#3019 [17:51] <AG_Scott> it's oversold openvz crap
#3020 [17:51] * Kealper shudders
#3020 [17:51] <AKK9> Thanks guys.
#3021 [17:51] <AG_Scott> I have yet to find a host that uses openvz and doesn't oversell.
#3022 [17:51] <Kealper> why do people pack so many OpenVZ VMs on a single machine anyways?
#3023 [17:52] <luckz> AG_Scott: is openvz evil? does it encourage people to oversell? :P
#3024 [17:52] <AG_Scott> because it's so easy
#3025 [17:52] <AG_Scott> Yes
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#3027 [17:52] <AG_Scott> i can't think of any reason to use if you aren't going to overselll
#3028 [17:52] <luckz> how does it aid with oversellin?
#3029 [17:52] <AG_Scott> There's much better hypervisors (that make overselling difficult or impossible) that allow better control for the customer etc
#3030 [17:53] <AG_Scott> luckz, the way it manages resources
#3031 [17:53] <AKK9> Kealper, if I had said I knew java, what would you have said?
#3032 [17:53] <Kealper> AKK9: i'd have said make your own mod....lol
#3033 [17:53] <AKK9> :P Thought so. Thanks anyways mate.
#3034 [17:53] <Kealper> but
#3035 [17:54] <Kealper> if you said you knew something like AutoIt or AutoHotKey (i shudder at the latter), then you could make your own 3rd party tool very easily
#3036 [17:56] <ssen> >Sell a VPS
#3037 [17:56] <ssen> >Someone resells that vps
#3038 [17:56] <ssen> >Someone resells that VPS
#3039 [17:56] <ssen> >Welcome to half the hosting providors on the internet.
#3040 [17:56] <AKK9> Hmm. Yeah they aren't the most elegant solutions. I'll post on the forums.
#3041 [17:57] <ssen> >Sell a VPS
#3042 [17:57] <ssen> >Someone resells that VPS
#3043 [17:57] <ssen> >Someone resells that VPS
#3044 [17:57] <ssen> >Someone resells that VPS
#3045 [17:57] <ssen> >Someone resells that VPS
#3046 [17:57] <ssen> >Welcome to the other half of the hosting providors on the internet.
#3047 [17:57] <ssen> Say what
#3048 [17:57] <ssen> I got banned and unbanned in the time it took me to write that
#3049 [17:58] <ssen> I'm not sure how to feel about that./
#3050 [17:58] <Kealper> lol
#3051 [17:59] <AKK9> Keal, are you familiar with WorldEdit and it's script feature?
#3052 [17:59] <AKK9> You can script your own stuff and then call scripts with a command.
#3053 [17:59] <AKK9> You reckon that's diffcult for someone to put together, for chat?
#3054 [17:59] <Kealper> no idea, never used it
#3055 [18:01] <AG_Scott> Have you looked at iChat?
#3056 [18:01] <AG_Scott> It manipulates chat. Might do something like you're looking for.
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#3058 [18:02] <AKK9> But that's serverside.
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#3061 [18:04] <Bradio> hey guys
#3062 [18:05] <Bradio> anybody in here? I need some help getting MC up and running.
#3063 [18:05] <oldtopman> 'allo
#3064 [18:05] <Bradio> hi. uh.....
#3065 [18:05] <oldtopman> ?? ask
#3066 [18:05] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3067 [18:05] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3068 [18:06] <Bradio> lol. yeah, im just trying to word the problem so you guys understand
#3069 [18:06] <Bradio> my bad
#3070 [18:06] <Bradio> give me a second
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#3072 [18:07] <Bradio> ok so.....
#3073 [18:07] <timma> is the server up yet?
#3074 [18:07] <timma> i am trying to get on a multiplayer classic
#3075 [18:08] <Bradio> whenever i try to run MC on my laptop, it gives me that error about the bad video card drivers
#3076 [18:08] <AKK9> Have you updated your drivers?
#3077 [18:08] <Bradio> yeah, to my knowledge theyre all up to date
#3078 [18:08] <Bradio> but uh
#3079 [18:09] <Bradio> yeah, still not going.
#3080 [18:09] <Bradio> tried a couple fixes on the forums already, but no dice
#3081 [18:09] <AKK9> What GPU do you have?
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#3083 [18:10] <Bradio> uh
#3084 [18:11] <Bradio> intel HD graphics i think
#3085 [18:11] <Bradio> im running all this on a toshiba satellite l655, heres the thing.....
#3086 [18:12] <Bradio> it says the model number is l655-0dp, but i checked the toshiba support site and it wasnt there
#3087 [18:12] <Bradio> so i went to uh
#3088 [18:13] <Bradio> the hardware and peripherals thing in windows 7 and tried updating the drivers on random crap
#3089 [18:13] <Bradio> and EVERYTHING is up to date
#3090 [18:13] <Bradio> and the drivers from the intel page didnt work
#3091 [18:14] <Bradio> sorry. im gawd-awful at explaining technical stuff like this
#3092 [18:15] <AKK9> What do you mean they didn't work?
#3093 [18:15] <Bradio> well
#3094 [18:15] <Bradio> the ones from the intel page.....
#3095 [18:15] <Bradio> uh
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#3097 [18:16] <Bradio> i tried running the .exe to install them, but it just said they were incompatible. im POSITIVE i got the specs right
#3098 [18:16] <[USNG]Joshua_C_Allen> i'm having something odd happen on my server i made this spawner trap with pigs and they are like ghost pigs they are there but they don't exist
#3099 [18:17] <AKK9> Press WinKey + R and type in "dxdiag"
#3100 [18:17] <Bradio> im in dxdiag
#3101 [18:17] <Bradio> ye
#3102 [18:17] <AKK9> What does it say under the Display tab?
#3103 [18:17] <AKK9> Under Name:
#3104 [18:17] <AKK9> After Name:
#3105 [18:18] <Bradio> Intel HD Graphics on an i3 processor, internal memory.....
#3106 [18:18] <Bradio> about 2gb memory
#3107 [18:20] <AKK9> Bradio go here:
#3108 [18:20] <AKK9> http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm?iid=dc_iduu
#3109 [18:21] <AKK9> Run that. It should automatically check your drivers.
#3110 [18:21] <Bradio> neato, thanks
#3111 [18:23] <Bradio> lol yep, no help from intel
#3112 [18:23] <Bradio> apparently....
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#3114 [18:23] <Bradio> im on a computer manufacturer-specific driver, and intel has no updates for it
#3115 [18:23] <Bradio> im trying to find
#3116 [18:23] <Bradio> k uh
#3117 [18:23] <Bradio> http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/support/jsp/home.jsp?nav=Download#
#3118 [18:24] <Bradio> im diddling around here
#3119 [18:24] <Bradio> trying to find
#3120 [18:24] <Bradio> the drivers for a satellite L655-0DP, cant find em
#3121 [18:26] <AKK9> No. Toshibas GPU drivers will be out of date anyways.
#3122 [18:26] <Bradio> so it cant be fixed? :(
#3123 [18:27] <AKK9> Have you tried playing in the browser?
#3124 [18:27] <AKK9> http://www.minecraft.net/game/
#3125 [18:27] <Bradio> yeah, same error.
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#3127 [18:27] <Bradio> bad drivers, cant find openGL
#3128 [18:27] <Bradio> intel and toshiba have the WORST driver support ive ever seen, lol
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#3131 [18:35] <AKK9> Apparently, this works:
#3132 [18:35] <Bradio> so am i fucked?
#3133 [18:35] <AKK9> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=44225
#3134 [18:35] <Bradio> o
#3135 [18:35] <Bradio> i think i tried that. i probably just goofed up
#3136 [18:35] <Bradio> just a minute
#3137 [18:36] <Bradio> oh uh
#3138 [18:36] <Bradio> what do i do when cmd doesnt recognize java as a command?
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#3140 [18:38] <TacoV> there is an area in my map, whenever I enter it, I get stuck. only way to escape is to put back a savegame
#3141 [18:38] <TacoV> does anyone know how to fix that?
#3142 [18:38] <xales> TacoV: it's probably corrupt. you can delete it, but that's it
#3143 [18:39] <TacoV> xales: thanks. Don't want to lose my world, though :s
#3144 [18:40] <xales> TacoV: you can delete just the one chunk
#3145 [18:40] <xales> using a map editor
#3146 [18:40] <TacoV> ah that might work, I didn't build anything there yet
#3147 [18:40] <Bradio> mcedit and fill that bad boy with water imo
#3148 [18:40] <Bradio> big ass swimmin pewl
#3149 [18:40] <TacoV> heh :)
#3150 [18:41] <Bradio> SO ANYWAYS
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#3152 [18:41] <TacoV> I'm gonna try that, thanks
#3153 [18:41] <Bradio> how come my cmd wont recognize java?
#3154 [18:41] <Bradio> im trying to do the fix where you rename minecraft.exe to a jar.....
#3155 [18:41] <TacoV> try navigating to your java foler first
#3156 [18:42] <TacoV> (just a guess)
#3157 [18:42] <TacoV> folder*
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#3159 [18:42] <Collinqt> Got a quick mod question: is there any mod out there in which destroys blocks infront of you without having to go chopping at them? I'm making a subway underground and i need to clear a TON of blocks to even get started building the station
#3160 [18:42] <Bradio> i dunno what im doing
#3161 [18:42] <Bradio> lol
#3162 [18:42] <xales> ??> Collinqt mods
#3163 [18:42] <VoxelHead> Collinqt: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3164 [18:42] <VoxelHead> Collinqt: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3165 [18:44] <Collinqt> So go there instead?
#3166 [18:44] <xales> yes
#3167 [18:49] <qster> I can't portal to nether on my friends server, but is it not possible to create two obsidian gates on the same world to get around quickly? I've built two but nothing works
#3168 [18:51] <TacoV> qster: it should be possible, how far are they apart?
#3169 [18:52] <qster> not far, I'm just testing
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#3171 [18:53] <Nappz> Hmm, in the map that Im in, I've walked REALLY far, and can't find any snow... Is it possible that there is no snow biome in this map? If not, how can I find one? Im on SMP.
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#3174 [18:54] <xales> Nappz: keep walking
#3175 [18:55] <Nappz> lol
#3176 [18:55] <xales> qster: portals do nothing on SMP
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#3178 [18:57] <qster> shame
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#3180 [18:59] <AKK9> I admin on a server with a Nether portal. Not sure about the technical details, but it works.
#3181 [19:00] <xales> AKK9: there are mods to make it "work" but not on the normal server
#3182 [19:01] <Bradio> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin" -Xmx800m -jar "C:\Users\Steve\Desktop\Minecraft.jar"
#3183 [19:01] <Bradio> The system cannot find the path specified.
#3184 [19:01] <xales> wrong
#3185 [19:02] <xales> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx800m -jar "C:\Users\Steve\Desktop\Minecraft.jar"
#3186 [19:02] <Bradio> k Q_Q
#3187 [19:02] <xales> however if it it a driver issue
#3188 [19:02] <xales> that will do nothing
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#3190 [19:02] <AKK9> Xales, it's worked for tons of people. It's worth a shot.
#3191 [19:02] <Bradio> oh woops forgot the java.exe
#3192 [19:03] <xales> the .exe just runs the .jar
#3193 [19:03] <xales> nothing changes
#3194 [19:03] <Bradio> yeah, same error
#3195 [19:03] <Bradio> the .jar's in the right place
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#3197 [19:03] <xales> Bradio: what error, specifically
#3198 [19:03] <oldtopman> !isdown
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#3200 [19:03] <Bradio> just cant find the path specified
#3201 [19:03] <xales> can you pastebin the full error?
#3202 [19:04] <AKK9> Xales, like I said it worked for quite a few people. Something to do with memory.
#3203 [19:04] <Bradio> The system cannot find the path specified.
#3204 [19:04] <xales> Bradio: is that all it says?
#3205 [19:04] <Bradio> im probably just doing something really stupid
#3206 [19:04] <Bradio> yeah
#3207 [19:04] <xales> AKK9: That is a different thing, then
#3208 [19:04] <xales> Bradio: what happens when you try to use the exe
#3209 [19:05] <Bradio> sec, ill try it
#3210 [19:05] <TacoV> awesome, I opened the level in mcedit and it was repaired automatically. Saved it and all works again. Thanks xales and Bradio!
#3211 [19:05] <Bradio> do i just change the file extension to .exe and change the cmd command?
#3212 [19:05] <xales> no
#3213 [19:05] <Bradio> NO PROBLEM BRO
#3214 [19:06] <xales> delete what you already have downloaded
#3215 [19:06] <xales> download the .exe again
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#3217 [19:06] <xales> and just double click on it
#3218 [19:06] <Bradio> lolwat. thats the first thing i did!
#3219 [19:06] <Bradio> driver issue!
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#3221 [19:06] <xales> what exactly is the error?
#3222 [19:06] <Bradio> its uh
#3223 [19:06] <AKK9> Xales, same thing. "Bad drivers can't find OpenGL". The fix worked for quite a few people.
#3224 [19:07] <xales> AKK9: that has absolutely nothing to do with memory
#3225 [19:07] <xales> if it's a driver issue, then the problem is with the driver
#3226 [19:07] <Bradio> http://mibpaste.com/EGJjKv
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#3229 [19:07] <xales> ??> Bradio win/dxdiag
#3230 [19:07] <VoxelHead> Bradio: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3231 [19:07] <VoxelHead> Bradio: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3232 [19:08] <AKK9> Xales, from what I've read the issue is with the way the driver reports memory. Problem is they are intel's most recent drivers.
#3233 [19:08] <xales> AKK9: This has absolutely nothing to do with memory
#3234 [19:08] <xales> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#3235 [19:08] <xales> at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.nChoosePixelFormat(Native Method)
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#3238 [19:10] <Bradio> k sec. sorry i had to answer the door
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#3240 [19:10] <Bradio> ill post that dxdiag stuff
#3241 [19:11] <Bradio> http://mibpaste.com/z0XECA
#3242 [19:11] <Bradio> theres the dxdiag stuff
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#3244 [19:11] <Jackson413> hey guys
#3245 [19:12] <Bradio> hi
#3246 [19:12] <Bradio> riddle me this jackson
#3247 [19:12] <Bradio> WHAT
#3248 [19:12] <Jackson413> how much ram do i need for a server running a serverside mod per slot?
#3249 [19:12] <Bradio> am i doing wrong?
#3250 [19:12] <Jackson413> ok tell
#3251 [19:12] <AKK9> True dat. no point in that then.
#3252 [19:12] <gothroach> Jackson413: Rule of thumb I've been hearing is 1gb + 100mb per client.
#3253 [19:12] <gothroach> To be safe.
#3254 [19:13] <xales> not 1GB+100MB
#3255 [19:13] <xales> it's 1GB minimum
#3256 [19:13] <xales> with about 100MB per client
#3257 [19:13] <Jackson413> gothroach: does this include mods?
#3258 [19:13] <xales> so for 15 people
#3259 [19:13] <xales> 1500MB
#3260 [19:13] <xales> Jackson413: no, it does not
#3261 [19:13] <gothroach> xales: Sorry, that's what I meant... Worded it wrong.
#3262 [19:13] <xales> Bradio: I've not seen anyone to get it to work with the i3's integrated graphics thing
#3263 [19:13] <Jackson413> how about 1024 mb for 10 people
#3264 [19:13] <xales> (I believe it doesn't support OpenGL)
#3265 [19:13] <xales> Jackson413: no way in hell
#3266 [19:13] <gothroach> Probably going to suffer here,.
#3267 [19:14] <gothroach> *there.
#3268 [19:14] <Bradio> WOW really!?
#3269 [19:14] <xales> Jackson413: for ten people, you want at least 1.5GB, just for the Minecraft server
#3270 [19:14] <Jackson413> wait so i need 2000 mb for 10 people?
#3271 [19:14] <xales> if you intend on using many mods (things like Bukkit with worldguard or whatever)
#3272 [19:14] <xales> you want 2GB
#3273 [19:14] <gothroach> Plus RAM for your OS, Jackson413.
#3274 [19:14] <xales> (again, just for the Minecraft server)
#3275 [19:15] <xales> which means, for a Windows-based server, the system needs at least 3GB
#3276 [19:15] <xales> for a Linux based server, 2.5GB
#3277 [19:15] <xales> if you want to run it in a ramdisk (you should)
#3278 [19:15] <xales> 4GB
#3279 [19:15] <Jackson413> fuckkk
#3280 [19:15] <Jackson413> thats horrid
#3281 [19:15] <xales> that's really not a lot
#3282 [19:15] <xales> (for a server)
#3283 [19:15] <xales> for one thing? yes
#3284 [19:15] <Jackson413> for a jobless guy yea
#3285 [19:15] <xales> for a server computer? no
#3286 [19:15] <Jackson413> brb
#3287 [19:15] <Jackson413> meh
#3288 [19:16] <gothroach> If you don't mind consumer-level hardware and questionable support, you can probably get an 8gb dedi on a decent connection for ~$60/mo.
#3289 [19:16] <gothroach> Obviously not something you'd want to rely on, but it's something.
#3290 [19:18] <Bradio> so ive pretty much given up if you guys have, sorry....
#3291 [19:18] <Bradio> jsut to clarify.....
#3292 [19:18] <Bradio> theres no fix for the openGL bug running on Intel HD Graphics?
#3293 [19:19] <xales> the internal graphics in the i3 isn't really meant for gaming
#3294 [19:19] <xales> so it's no surprise it doesn't support whatver it is that it's not finding
#3295 [19:19] <xales> you could try getting a real graphics card (easy on a desktop, might not be possible with a laptop)
#3296 [19:20] <Bradio> alright cool.
#3297 [19:20] <xales> anyway
#3298 [19:20] * xales has to go get some work done
#3298 [19:20] <Bradio> k
#3299 [19:20] <Bradio> thanks for the help guys
#3300 [19:23] <Jackson413> xales
#3301 [19:23] * Kealper yawns
#3301 [19:24] <Kealper> getting better at Crysis 2....but i still suck compared to some other people
#3302 [19:24] <Jackson413> kealper
#3303 [19:24] <Kealper> hmm?
#3304 [19:24] <Jackson413> http://furtivehost.com/minecraft.html
#3305 [19:24] <Jackson413> the medium plan
#3306 [19:24] <Jackson413> will it support 10 people
#3307 [19:25] <Kealper> one of the AG guys said furtivehost is bad, because they are a reseller of a super shitty VPS provider
#3308 [19:25] <Jackson413> damnit
#3309 [19:25] <Kealper> 1 sec
#3310 [19:25] <Jackson413> can you recommend me one
#3311 [19:25] <Jackson413> or a vps
#3312 [19:26] <Kealper> https://allgamer.net/clients/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0
#3313 [19:26] <AG_Scott> If you want shitty VPS, just buy it directly ;)
#3314 [19:27] <AG_Scott> you can get it cheaper that way, heh.
#3315 [19:27] <Kealper> easier to just go with one of your minecraft beta setups though
#3316 [19:28] <Kealper> and 10 people from allgamer is only like $2 more than furtivehost....and it's using a better setup
#3317 [19:30] <Coll> Kealper
#3318 [19:30] <Kealper> yessir
#3319 [19:30] <Coll> your server is lagging hard
#3320 [19:30] <Kealper> oh?
#3321 [19:30] * Kealper looks
#3321 [19:30] <Kealper> what sort of lag, like 1+ minute lag or a fwe seconds of lag?
#3322 [19:30] <Coll> like I break blocks they reapper then 30 seconds later they dissapper and drop their item
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#3324 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Not lagging for me
#3325 [19:31] <Kealper> coll are you like...torrenting anything? uploading any videos to youtube?
#3326 [19:31] <Coll> no
#3327 [19:32] <Coll> I am not doing anything except minecraft
#3328 [19:32] <Coll> I even fully closed it and started it back up
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#3331 [19:32] <Kealper> hmm
#3332 [19:32] <Kealper> open cmd and ping mc.kealper.com
#3333 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Kealper musta turned off the pr0n downloads
#3334 [19:33] <Coll> average of 167ms
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#3336 [19:33] <Coll> lost 1 packet
#3337 [19:33] <Kealper> hmm...lost a packet....
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#3339 [19:34] <Kealper> i wonder if there is a node or something having issues between you and my server
#3340 [19:37] <oldtopman> traceroute?
#3341 [19:38] <oldtopman> http://tinyurl.com/46qghye
#3342 [19:38] <clank714> Can you ignore me for no reason?
#3343 [19:38] * oldtopman activates anti head exploding techniques.
#3343 [19:39] <Kealper> clank714: wut?
#3344 [19:40] <clank714> Kealper: Exactly what i didnt want.
#3345 [19:42] <Kealper> clank714: no problem
#3346 [19:42] <clank714> k great Kealper Did it again
#3347 [19:44] <Kealper> no problem, again
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#3349 [19:45] <Jackson413> kealper
#3350 [19:45] <Kealper> hmm?
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#3352 [19:45] <Jackson413> this allgamer site
#3353 [19:45] <Jackson413> the have 768 ram
#3354 [19:45] <Jackson413> 768 mb
#3355 [19:45] <Jackson413> for10 players?
#3356 [19:46] <Kealper> 768mb would work for 10 players as long as they didn't run out in every direction at the same time
#3357 [19:46] <Jackson413> how bad would it lag?
#3358 [19:46] <Kealper> if you were all grouped together (reletively) it'd work
#3359 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Most likely the AG guys have done significant garbage collecting
#3360 [19:46] <gothroach> As long as you don't mhave many mods...
#3361 [19:46] <Jackson413> this is with mods
#3362 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> for the java app
#3363 [19:46] <Jackson413> how bad would this be with say bukkit
#3364 [19:47] <Kealper> not sure....you'd have to ask one of the AG guys
#3365 [19:47] <Jackson413> ag?
#3366 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> AllGamer
#3367 [19:48] <AG_Scott> Jackson413, if you're using mods, you will use more.
#3368 [19:48] <Kealper> anyone in here with the nick starting with AG_ are AllGamer staff
#3369 [19:48] <AG_Scott> We did severe tweaking to get those numbers lol
#3370 [19:48] <Jackson413> AG_Scott: how much more?
#3371 [19:48] <AG_Scott> It really depends on what you're doing.
#3372 [19:48] <AG_Scott> The plugins you run, etc.
#3373 [19:48] <Jackson413> how much ram would i need for 10 players
#3374 [19:48] <Jackson413> ill give you a list of plugins
#3375 [19:49] <Jackson413> this includes multiverse btw
#3376 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> I find a good rule of thumb is about 100-150megs a player
#3377 [19:49] <AG_Scott> I don't know what plugins use so that won't be any use
#3378 [19:49] <Jackson413> but this is with multiple worlds
#3379 [19:49] <AG_Scott> I'd probably go with at least 1.5gb if you're using several bukkit mods
#3380 [19:50] <gothroach> It really depends on how separated the users are, both world and location-wise.
#3381 [19:50] <Jackson413> damn
#3382 [19:51] <gothroach> Two users in two different worlds will use more RAM than two users sitting next to one another, obviously.
#3383 [19:51] <Jackson413> that it a bit much
#3384 [19:52] <Jackson413> meh brb
#3385 [19:53] <Jackson413> a friend just asked me how to forward a port without a router
#3386 [19:53] <Jackson413> how do i answer that?
#3387 [19:53] <Kealper> tell him to go to http://portforward.com
#3388 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> ...
#3389 [19:54] <Jackson413> without a router
#3390 [19:54] <Jackson413> im saying i go smack him
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#3394 [20:03] <Blackthorne> Hi.
#3395 [20:04] <Blackthorne> Has anyone else been getting severe lag since 1.3?
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#3417 [21:18] <laohunter> Trying to buy minecraft with a Visa Giftcard, I hear its impossible, is it?
#3418 [21:20] <oldtopman> Unless you live in UK
#3419 [21:22] <laohunter> oh darn =\ looks like im out $25
#3420 [21:23] <relsqui> lame
#3421 [21:23] <relsqui> maybe you can sell it to a friend?
#3422 [21:28] <Shadow386> You could pay me and I'll buy it for ya
#3423 [21:28] <Shadow386> lol
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#3425 [21:32] <Blackthorne> Have notch or any devs made any comment on the lag people have been getting since 1.3?
#3426 [21:33] <oldtopman> not afaik.
#3427 [21:33] <xales> DopeGhoti?
#3428 [21:33] <Blackthorne> Haven't been able to play for nearly 2 weeks.
#3429 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> xales?
#3430 [21:35] <xales> DopeGhoti: what settings make sense for #minecraft bot?
#3431 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> In terms of flood and ban protection?
#3432 [21:36] <xales> in terms of just what settings (channel or whatever)
#3433 [21:36] <xales> I haven't messed with Eggdrop for a few years
#3434 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> I'd go with -bitch -protect* for starters
#3435 [21:38] <xales> I think I know what bitch does, what do the protect* do?
#3436 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> if someone kicks an op, and protectops is on, it kb's the person and reinvite/reops the former op
#3437 [21:40] <xales> that's a bit silly ._.
#3438 [21:40] <xales> oh
#3439 [21:41] <xales> what was that thing called
#3440 [21:41] <xales> the network type number thing
#3441 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> 5 (other)
#3442 [21:42] <xales> ok, that's what I thought
#3443 [21:42] * xales thinks it should autodetect those, but whatever
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#3444 [21:47] <clank714> Goodnight everyone
#3445 [21:47] <xales> lol amsg
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#3447 [21:54] <relsqui> does the game acknowledge/display it to you when you send a tell?
#3448 [21:54] <relsqui> I sent one, but it didn't do anything and I didn't get a response; I don't want to send a dupe if the first one took and he just hasn't gotten to it yet
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#3450 [21:55] <mib_u2zb53> hey i need help
#3451 [21:55] <mib_u2zb53> :|
#3452 [21:55] <mib_u2zb53> is anyone here?
#3453 [21:56] <mib_u2zb53> hello? D:
#3454 [21:56] <Punchist> mib_u2zb53: what's up
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#3456 [21:56] <Punchist> Anyone know what's up with the minecraft.net site?
#3457 [21:57] <mib_u2zb53> uhm
#3458 [21:57] <mib_u2zb53> its down apperently
#3459 [21:57] <mib_u2zb53> but i need help too :|
#3460 [21:57] <Punchist> well, stop saying you need help and ask the question
#3461 [21:57] <mib_u2zb53> WhenI got to buy minecraft with my prepaid Visa it wont let me :|
#3462 [21:58] <Punchist> you probably need to register the card with your name and address on the site listed on the back of the gift card first
#3463 [21:58] <relsqui> my understanding is that prepaid cards tend to not work for this anyway. I don't know why, I've just heard other people say that; someone else probably knows more
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#3465 [22:01] <mib_u2zb53> -,-
#3466 [22:01] <buckb123thatsme> Can you help me with my launch.command file for my bukkit servr on a mac?? Please...I know this is about minecraft but no one can help me
#3467 [22:01] <oldtopman> The gift cards don't work
#3468 [22:02] <oldtopman> There is some out-of country code protection so the US ones don't work.
#3469 [22:02] <oldtopman> I certain't can't
#3470 [22:02] <AG_Scott> buckb123thatsme, you should ask #bukkit
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#3472 [22:03] <iamweirdie> can somebody help me
#3473 [22:04] <iamweirdie> im in a minecraft game, admin
#3474 [22:04] <iamweirdie> anyway
#3475 [22:04] <iamweirdie> how do i give myself colored wool?
#3476 [22:04] <iamweirdie> i know it's /give something
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#3479 [22:06] <AG_Scott> i don't think you can...
#3480 [22:07] <AG_Scott> without mods that is.
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#3482 [22:08] <relsqui> iamweirdie: check the wiki
#3483 [22:08] <relsqui> AG_Scott: you can with op powers
#3484 [22:08] <LG_Legacy> What?
#3485 [22:09] <SkiingPenguins> iamweirdie: give yourself wool then give yourself dye stuff
#3486 [22:09] <iamweirdie> i tried
#3487 [22:09] <AG_Scott> Oh, news to me. hehe.
#3488 [22:09] <iamweirdie> cant find it
#3489 [22:09] <relsqui> or that, yes.
#3490 [22:09] <iamweirdie> i hav op powers
#3491 [22:09] <iamweirdie> does anybody know?
#3492 [22:10] <Blackthorne> Has anyone here had an issue with blocks respawning after being destroyed since 1.3?
#3493 [22:10] <SkiingPenguins> Blackthorne you may need to move away from the spawn area
#3494 [22:10] <relsqui> iamweirdie: yeah, I think SkiingPenguins has it right--just give yourself regular wool and dye
#3495 [22:10] <Blackthorne> No SkiingPenguins that's not it.
#3496 [22:10] <SkiingPenguins> then i've got no idea, sorry
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#3498 [22:10] <Blackthorne> Well... I was offering a solution for anyone that had.
#3499 [22:10] <Blackthorne> Possible solution.
#3500 [22:11] <ionface> Blackthorne, yeah bukkit lag is involved
#3501 [22:12] <iamweirdie> soo there is no way to give urself dyes...
#3502 [22:13] <relsqui> iamweirdie: you could just give yourself the thing the dye is made of
#3503 [22:13] <ionface> iamweirdie, you make stacks of 64 I think, or something about stack size effects it
#3504 [22:14] <ionface> iamweirdie, give yourself too much and it becomes white wool
#3505 [22:14] <Blackthorne> bukkit lag?
#3506 [22:14] <ionface> Blackthorne, so what was your solution?
#3507 [22:14] <ionface> Blackthorne, yeah, I have a modified server called Bukki
#3508 [22:14] <ionface> t
#3509 [22:14] <ionface> Bukkit has lag issues since 1.3
#3510 [22:15] <Blackthorne> Well I deleted my .minecraft folder and reinstalled java.
#3511 [22:15] <Blackthorne> There's a thread on the forum 4 pages long with people having the same problem I did.
#3512 [22:15] <iamweirdie> ok
#3513 [22:16] <ionface> Blackthorne, have a link?
#3514 [22:16] <Blackthorne> Sorta
#3515 [22:16] <ionface> Blackthorne, people on my server having the problem have already done that, but I'd like to see if it was the same problem
#3516 [22:17] <Blackthorne> www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=191499
#3517 [22:17] <ionface> The only connection between them is that they have Windows Ultimate
#3518 [22:17] <ionface> 64
#3519 [22:17] <ionface> windows 7 ultimate 64*
#3520 [22:17] <Blackthorne> That can't be it.
#3521 [22:17] <Blackthorne> I was having probelsm on XP SP3.
#3522 [22:18] <Blackthorne> But no problems on my laptop running Win 7
#3523 [22:18] <Blackthorne> The specs and systems between the people with the problem are varied.
#3524 [22:18] <Blackthorne> Mac/Windows users are affected.
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#3526 [22:20] <gothroach> Blackthorne: That issue is very widespread, I don't think it'll be alleviated until addressed by Mojang.
#3527 [22:20] <gothroach> I've been experiencing it on and off.
#3528 [22:20] <Blackthorne> Well I've somehow fixed it.
#3529 [22:20] <Blackthorne> On and off is a lag thing.
#3530 [22:20] <Blackthorne> I've been getting it since I started.
#3531 [22:20] <Blackthorne> But not like it was.
#3532 [22:20] <Blackthorne> Not like it was recently.
#3533 [22:21] <gothroach> So you're saying that your chunk load order has returned to pre-1.3 status too?
#3534 [22:21] <Blackthorne> I don't know what you said. But I'll guess yes.
#3535 [22:25] <ionface> heh well that's a strange answer
#3536 [22:26] <ionface> I bet it isn't..
#3537 [22:26] <gothroach> Yeah...
#3538 [22:26] <gothroach> I just stopped trying :)
#3539 [22:26] <ionface> I check my forums every day to see if they patched it
#3540 [22:26] <ionface> that is as much as can be done at this point
#3541 [22:26] <Blackthorne> I doubt it's pre-1.3, but it is working now.
#3542 [22:26] <ionface> my computer works fine on pre-1.3 servers
#3543 [22:26] <Blackthorne> I can build and chat and do all the shit without the bad shit.
#3544 [22:27] <gothroach> Moving the world to a RAMdrive helped the load speed, but it's still slow.
#3545 [22:27] <ionface> it still connects and works perfectly on non-updated ones
#3546 [22:27] <Blackthorne> The server I'm on hasn't changed and I was having trouble not not anymore.
#3547 [22:27] <Blackthorne> Also do you have any idea how much room pigs and sheep need to spawn on grass?
#3548 [22:27] <ionface> one block
#3549 [22:27] <Blackthorne> Trying to get some to spawn in my basement but they aren't.
#3550 [22:27] <Blackthorne> Ah
#3551 [22:27] <Blackthorne> They were before I put this fence up but they aren't now.
#3552 [22:28] <ionface> Blackthorne, and I believe they need 2 blocks high like spiders
#3553 [22:28] <Blackthorne> Well the ceiling to the floor is 6 blocks.
#3554 [22:28] <ionface> Blackthorne, light level changed at all?
#3555 [22:28] <ionface> should be >8 IIRC
#3556 [22:29] <ionface> so like, not monsters
#3557 [22:29] <Blackthorne> Torches everywhere.
#3558 [22:29] <ionface> could be wrong
#3559 [22:29] <ionface> yeah
#3560 [22:29] <Blackthorne> More now than there where when I didn't have the fence.
#3561 [22:29] <ionface> well they can't spawn on torches though I don't think
#3562 [22:29] <Blackthorne> Certainly enough light for a tree to grow.
#3563 [22:30] <Blackthorne> Got a nice little tree in my basement.
#3564 [22:30] <ionface> little trees are nice
#3565 [22:30] <Blackthorne> Yes.
#3566 [22:30] <Blackthorne> Had to modify my forest a bit so little ones would spawn instead of big ones.
#3567 [22:30] <Blackthorne> Easier to cut down and easier to stop creepers spawning on top of them.
#3568 [22:43] <Jackson413> i had a little tree in my basement in real life
#3569 [22:43] <Jackson413> once
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#3571 [22:45] <mib_08fom5> hi
#3572 [22:45] <mib_08fom5> uggg
#3573 [22:45] <mib_08fom5> how do i fix minecraft?
#3574 [22:45] <mib_08fom5> it says bad vid card
#3575 [22:45] <relsqui> have you gotten the most recent drivers from the manufact...okay
#3576 [22:50] <xales> hurray for idiots! \o/
#3577 [22:50] <xales> ._.
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#3579 [23:00] <Jackson413> hey guys
#3580 [23:00] <Jackson413> is scrolls gonna replace minecraft?
#3581 [23:01] <oldtopman> nope
#3582 [23:01] <DopeGhoti> No. Did Guild Wars replace City of Heroes?
#3583 [23:01] <Jackson413> is mojang intending for it to?
#3584 [23:02] <oldtopman> nope
#3585 [23:02] <Jackson413> theyll still work on mc
#3586 [23:02] <Jackson413> ?
#3587 [23:05] <xales> ._.
#3588 [23:05] * xales thinks people need to learn to read
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#3594 [23:25] <sesopenko> are op commands announced to all players on a server?
#3595 [23:25] <sesopenko> like /save-all, /give, /time, etc etc?
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#3597 [23:26] <xales> they aren't announced to anyone
#3598 [23:26] <xales> unless you are using some sort of mod
#3599 [23:27] <SinZ> vannila commands are announced to other ops
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#3601 [23:33] <Nappz> I made design D here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Clock_generators_and_pulsars.png and the output just freezes up every few seconds then continues..
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#3605 [23:45] <xales> I always get a bad feeling when a mib_* joins and doesn't ask anything
#3606 [23:46] <Punchist> so mib_ must be the web client
#3607 [23:46] <Punchist> ?
#3608 [23:46] <xales> mib_* is the default nick for Mibbit
#3609 [23:46] <xales> IE: people too stupid or lazy to change it
#3610 [23:46] <xales> Mibbit = horrible (literally the worst) web client
#3611 [23:46] <Punchist> ah I see, ajax
#3612 [23:47] <Punchist> they came from the Internets! *gasp*
#3613 [23:47] <xales> I hope Mibbit is akilled/loses webirc permission here sometime soon
#3614 [23:47] <xales> =/
#3615 [23:48] <gothroach> xales: Amen.
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#3617 [23:49] <Mourne_> xales: I finally got the launcher to work. :)
#3618 [23:49] <xales> \o/
#3619 [23:50] <Mourne_> It figures. I had to change my system time to current. T_T
#3620 [23:50] <Mourne_> Apparently, the fact that my computer was set back in 2010, certificate verification takes a hit. >.<
#3621 [23:51] <Punchist> how do you even...nevermind
#3622 [23:51] <Mourne_> I never set the time.
#3623 [23:52] <Mourne_> Soooo, yeah. Thought you'd like to know xales, in case you run into another case like mine. :P
#3624 [23:52] <xales> ok, thanks
#3625 [23:52] <xales> never would have guessed it would be that O_o
#3626 [23:52] <Mourne_> Me either. :S
#3627 [23:53] <Mourne_> The launcher is fantastic though ^_^
#3628 [23:53] <Mourne_> Alrighty, came in just to let ya know. Peace.
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#3630 [23:57] <Phoenix76653> !check 121.214.200.111:8080
#3631 [23:58] <xales> 8080?
#3632 [23:58] <Phoenix76653> the port
#3633 [23:58] <xales> that's an...interesting port for a Minecraft server
#3634 [23:58] <Phoenix76653> haha, someone told me to use that one
#3635 [23:58] <Phoenix76653> 25565 wudnt foward....
#3636 [23:58] <xales> if 25565 didn't work, 8080 sure as hell won't
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#3638 [23:59] <xales> (many ISPs block 8080 entirely)
#3639 [23:59] <Phoenix76653> I don't know much in the way of ports
#3640 [23:59] <Phoenix76653> why?
#3641 [23:59] <xales> 8080 is the alternative HTTP port
#3642 [23:59] <xales> 99% of it's use is people who want to run HTTP servers but 80 is blocked
#3643 [23:59] <Phoenix76653> ohhhh like the second port 80?
#3644 [23:59] <xales> because of that, they also started blocking port 8080
#3645 [23:59] <xales> yes
#3646 [23:59] <Phoenix76653> oh