#1 [00:07] <DopeGhoti> I thought I had
#2 [00:08] * DopeGhoti unplugs VoxelHead artificial stupidity
#2 [00:08] <Kealper> vox is too sentient to stop greeting people when you say stop
#3 [00:08] <DopeGhoti> d/d /d's /
#4 [00:09] <DopeGhoti> s/s/d/ :p
#5 [00:09] <Kealper> lol
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#8 [00:16] <DopeGhoti> Since disabling the onjoing plugin seems not to disable the behavior, I will simply remove that portion of the script from the library entirely
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#10 [00:16] <DopeGhoti> Then I shall turn the srtificial stupidity back on
#11 [00:17] <burnin> hello
#12 [00:17] <Kealper> a lobotomy
#13 [00:17] <burnin> question on buying MC...
#14 [00:17] <burnin> does the 15 euro include the final game release or just beta updates?
#15 [00:17] <Kealper> all of it
#16 [00:17] <DopeGhoti> Everything but expansions
#17 [00:18] <burnin> k, thanks
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#19 [00:28] <KentBallz> hey quick question how do you reset a hosted world?
#20 [00:30] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: There are expansions?
#21 [00:30] <nevercast> lol
#22 [00:31] <erik212> am I the only one with minutes of lag in multiplayer?
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#24 [00:31] <erik212> on my own server even, while others have perfect latency?
#25 [00:32] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: not yet.
#26 [00:32] <gothroach> KentBallz: Delete the world folder.
#27 [00:32] <gothroach> To completely reset the main world.
#28 [00:32] <KentBallz> nevercast do you know how to reset the the server?
#29 [00:32] <nevercast> KentBallz: In what respect?
#30 [00:32] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Didn't know the idea was even around
#31 [00:33] <KentBallz> like we want to start fresh no buildings or anything
#32 [00:33] <nevercast> KentBallz: Delete the world folder from the server directory
#33 [00:33] <KentBallz> ok cool thanks nevercast
#34 [00:34] <nevercast> gothroach: idk why he didn't just listen to you lol.
#35 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> nevercast: that's the difference other than price between alpha and beta purchases. Alpha gets a discount, and all future updates and expansions. Beta gets a discount, and all future updates. Post-release presumably will get no discount and bug fixes only.
#36 [00:35] <nevercast> Yeah some people said to me, ' Should have got it in Alpha '
#37 [00:35] <nevercast> It's like, I didn't really know about it until a Lan party a few months back
#38 [00:36] <EmpiresBane> i was in the first 300 to buy it
#39 [00:37] <EmpiresBane> just boasting for no reason
#40 [00:37] <erik212> why does my game lag by minutes in my own server
#41 [00:37] <aetherian> .-.
#42 [00:37] <EmpiresBane> also, i played minecraft on the very day that it was released
#43 [00:37] <nevercast> erik212: Where is your server located?
#44 [00:37] <erik212> california
#45 [00:37] <EmpiresBane> but i'm supposed to be gone 7 minutes ago, so see ya
#46 [00:38] <nevercast> erik212: Okay, It's likely not a net issue
#47 [00:38] <nevercast> erik212: It's probably a CPU issue, I've had the same
#48 [00:38] <erik212> my friend who lives next to me plays perfectly, I have tons of chucks that never load anf I keep timing out from the server
#49 [00:38] <erik212> but sometimes it's perfect
#50 [00:38] <nevercast> erik212: Because the protocol is TCP, It's a stream and packets are processed in sequence, If your CPU can't process the data fast enough you fall behind
#51 [00:38] <nevercast> erik212: It's not your network speed, It's your CPU power.
#52 [00:38] <erik212> I have a 4ghz quad core
#53 [00:38] <nevercast> Well obviously it's not enough ^_^
#54 [00:38] <nevercast> lol.
#55 [00:39] <nevercast> I'm speaking from my experience.
#56 [00:39] <erik212> I've already looked into every reasonable problem
#57 [00:39] <erik212> all that I can think of is that the release is bugged
#58 [00:39] <erik212> after I stay connected for 2-3 hours suddenly my latency is normal again
#59 [00:40] <erik212> it's somehow related to my hardware, since others running the same client version have no issues
#60 [00:40] <erik212> but it's not a matter of insufficient power
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#62 [00:41] <KentBallz> nevercast where is the server directory
#63 [00:41] <nevercast> KentBallz: You running the EXE or the JAR?
#64 [00:41] <KentBallz> exe
#65 [00:41] <nevercast> KentBallz: Then it's the same place as the exe likely
#66 [00:42] <KentBallz> ok let me look again
#67 [00:42] <DopeGhoti> erik212: sounds like your CPU or network is being saturated by the sending of chunk data to the client which, once finished, frees up the resource for such pithy things as text.
#68 [00:43] <nevercast> ^
#69 [00:43] <erik212> my server cpu/network?
#70 [00:43] <erik212> or my client cpu/network?
#71 [00:43] <nevercast> When you first connect
#72 [00:43] <nevercast> Your client cpu/network
#73 [00:43] <nevercast> is loaded with data
#74 [00:43] <nevercast> Map Chunk info
#75 [00:43] <erik212> I am on internet2...I don't see how this is possible
#76 [00:43] <nevercast> DopeGhoti is suggesting that this over saturates ( fills buffers ) on your computer
#77 [00:44] <nevercast> And until the map fully loads
#78 [00:44] <nevercast> most thing don't work in sync
#79 [00:44] <erik212> that somewhat describes the problem, but why can inferior hardware on my friend's computer work fine?
#80 [00:44] <DopeGhoti> Better throughput?
#81 [00:44] <DopeGhoti> Not running the server and client on the same machine, as I suspect you are?
#82 [00:45] <erik212> I have a 30 megabit connection at least
#83 [00:45] <erik212> the server is dedicated
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#85 [00:45] <aetherian> I sense a disturbance in the force
#86 [00:46] <erik212> the server is in a datacenter and I'm at a university, I'm not sure if there could be a better connection
#87 [00:47] <aetherian> there could
#88 [00:47] <nevercast> :(
#89 [00:47] <erik212> if I was on the same lan as the datacenter maybe
#90 [00:47] <nevercast> 18:47 -!- Permission Denied - You're not an IRC operator
#91 [00:47] <DopeGhoti> erik212: Well there's a lot of cruft between your dorm and the datacenter apparently
#92 [00:47] <erik212> there's no possibility that the client is just bugged?
#93 [00:47] <nevercast> erik212: Redownload it if you like
#94 [00:48] <nevercast> erik212: but as for sync, not really.
#95 [00:48] <DopeGhoti> You yourself just said that the same client works fine elsewhere.
#96 [00:48] <nevercast> xales, are you irc op? lol.
#97 [00:48] <aetherian> I call them irk ops :D
#98 [00:48] <erik212> I said that some users connecting to my server using the same client have no problems
#99 [00:49] <DopeGhoti> erik212: ergo, the client and server are both not the issue.
#100 [00:49] <DopeGhoti> that leaves the hardware, and the network.
#101 [00:51] <erik212> java can't really have hardware specific problems, so I suppose you're right
#102 [00:51] <erik212> but I still can't really believe that it's my network...previous versions of the client worked fine on identical hardware and network
#103 [00:51] <erik212> after 1.3 and 1.3_01 this all started
#104 [00:52] <KentBallz> nevercast I'm still not finding that server directory where exactly should I be looking?
#105 [00:53] <nevercast> KentBallz: Do you start your server with the Exe or with a shortcut to it?
#106 [00:53] <nevercast> erik212: Java *CAN* have Hardware Specific problems
#107 [00:53] <nevercast> But then again
#108 [00:53] <nevercast> It's not really Java
#109 [00:53] <nevercast> It's hardware, independent of Java
#110 [00:53] <nevercast> That would be the problem
#111 [00:54] <KentBallz> I go to the start menu and search minecraft and it brings up minecraft and minecraft_server
#112 [00:54] <erik212> but wouldn't the virtual machine be the problem then, not the application?
#113 [00:54] <erik212> if it was hardware specific
#114 [00:54] <nevercast> erik212: What does a VM use?
#115 [00:54] <nevercast> erik212: A VM uses ACTUALLY Hardware..
#116 [00:55] <nevercast> KentBallz: Well that's silly!!
#117 [00:55] <nevercast> KentBallz: Right click on the server, and press Open File Location
#118 [00:55] <KentBallz> lol I am silly I'm pretty sure you were helping me earlier with mash
#119 [00:56] <erik212> yes, but the java code, i.e. the client, isn't compiled for different hardware, the virtual machine is
#120 [00:56] <KentBallz> and that brings me to downloads
#121 [00:56] <erik212> unless I'm terribly misunderstanding how all this works
#122 [00:56] <nevercast> erik212: Yeah it doesn't work like that
#123 [00:56] <nevercast> erik212: Java loads Native libraries
#124 [00:56] <nevercast> erik212: Such as Open GL
#125 [00:56] <nevercast> erik212: They work outside of the VM on real hardware
#126 [00:56] <nevercast> erik212: The VM is just for the 'Virtual CPU' so to speak
#127 [00:56] <nevercast> In most respects at least
#128 [00:57] <xales> nevercast: what would give you that idea?
#129 [00:57] <xales> ._.
#130 [00:57] <nevercast> a Java game still uses your native graphics card
#131 [00:57] <xales> why does everyone think I am
#132 [00:57] <xales> D:
#133 [00:57] <nevercast> xales, You seem GODLIKE
#134 [00:57] <xales> ._.
#135 [00:57] <nevercast> xales, Godlike people generally have IRC Op
#136 [00:57] <erik212> oh, so if the problem isn't related to the java bytecode,then it could be hardware specific, right?
#137 [00:57] <nevercast> erik212: yes
#138 [00:58] <xales> nevercast: you should totally organize a petition that would do absolutely nothing
#139 [00:58] <xales> :P
#140 [00:58] <nevercast> xales, haha you think?
#141 [00:58] <nevercast> xales, well I wanted an irc op so I could /map
#142 [00:58] <KentBallz> nevercast when I open file location it takes me to my download file
#143 [00:58] <nevercast> xales, I want a list of irc nodes.
#144 [00:58] <nevercast> KentBallz: LOL!!
#145 [00:58] <nevercast> KentBallz: Go into your downloads
#146 [00:58] <nevercast> KentBallz: Find minecraft_server.exe
#147 [00:58] <xales> nevercast: I know all of them :P
#148 [00:59] <nevercast> KentBallz: Create a folder in your Documents, call it Minecraft Server
#149 [00:59] <nevercast> KentBallz: Paste it in there
#150 [00:59] <nevercast> KentBallz: Then create a shortcut on your desktop to it
#151 [00:59] <nevercast> KentBallz: NOW!! You are using the server correctly
#152 [00:59] <xales> nevercast: http://esper.net/server.php derp
#153 [00:59] <xales> nevercast: http://esper.net/servers.php derp
#154 [00:59] <nevercast> xales, Ily!
#155 [00:59] <xales> rather
#156 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> heh. "correctly."
#157 [00:59] <nevercast> DopeGhoti: Shh! If anything it should be nogui on a *nix box. but lets not go there
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#160 [01:10] <KentBallz> nevercast what do I do then to reset the world?
#161 [01:10] <nevercast> KentBallz: Have you copied the server and created the shortcut?
#162 [01:10] <KentBallz> yes
#163 [01:10] <nevercast> KentBallz: Launch the server by shortcut
#164 [01:11] <nevercast> KentBallz: Enjoy your new world
#165 [01:11] <KentBallz> :D thanks for all the help.... again lol
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#169 [01:23] <KentBallz> arrrrgh now the server isn't working
#170 [01:24] <nevercast> KentBallz: What do you mean isn't working?
#171 [01:24] <nevercast> KentBallz: I'll brb :D
#172 [01:27] <KentBallz> never mind I forgot to shut down the old one
#173 [01:29] <SinZ> !isup
#174 [01:30] <SinZ> !isdown
#175 [01:30] <SinZ> ...
#176 [01:30] <SinZ> !help
#177 [01:30] <Kealper> !isdown minecraft.net
#178 [01:30] <SinZ> aww, doesn't have the minecraft.net check anymore
#179 [01:31] <Kealper> aubot never had that
#180 [01:31] <Kealper> that was the failbot that is not in here rightn ow
#181 [01:31] <Kealper> !check minecraft.net:80
#182 [01:31] <SinZ> the login server....
#183 [01:31] <xales> !check login.minecraft.net:443
#184 [01:31] <SinZ> not working for me
#185 [01:32] <Kealper> database might be having a hissy again then
#186 [01:32] <SinZ> or my account got hacked again
#187 [01:32] <SinZ> yep, my account
#188 [01:33] <relsqui> consider increasing your password strength/not telling it to anyone
#189 [01:33] <SinZ> well, it was a "Medium" grade password
#190 [01:35] <gothroach> Why not a "High" grade password?
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#192 [01:39] <nevercast> Woo :D
#193 [01:39] <nevercast> Irssi is now mostly integrated to windows
#194 [01:41] <feenyx> through the clever use of putty?
#195 [01:42] <nevercast> feenyx: Yes, and batch scripts, and the /C switch of the Command Prompt
#196 [01:42] <nevercast> feenyx: Would you believe it so difficult to get an Irssi shortcut in your Taskbar WITH Icon, In windows 7?
#197 [01:43] <nevercast> KentBallz: Hey
#198 [01:43] <nevercast> KentBallz: Is it working?
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#200 [01:43] <erik212> well, I could play smp yesterday at least, now I can't play at all
#201 [01:43] <erik212> which is just stunning
#202 [01:46] <erik212> I can't believe I'm the only one to whom this seems to be happening
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#211 [02:10] <feenyx> nevercast: wouldn't suspect it, no
#212 [02:11] <feenyx> mine's just there when i hit Win+R, though :p
#213 [02:13] <nevercast> feenyx: Just installed Real Desktop
#214 [02:13] <nevercast> feenyx: It's kind of cool but I image the novelty will wear off really fast
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#216 [02:21] <the_late_man> yawn
#217 [02:21] <the_late_man> hey nevercast
#218 [02:23] <the_late_man> got any spare coffee?
#219 [02:23] <nevercast> the_late_man: Yes sir I do.
#220 [02:23] <the_late_man> give it to me D:
#221 [02:23] * nevercast makes the_late_man a long black
#221 [02:23] <the_late_man> oi
#222 [02:23] <nevercast> This should wake you up :D
#223 [02:23] <the_late_man> I prefer my blacks to my short and pudgy
#224 [02:23] <the_late_man> not long and skinny
#225 [02:24] <the_late_man> now, if there were only a bit of sugar...
#226 [02:24] <nevercast> I prefer my blacks to be painting by back fence! But they stopped taking orders after I refused to feed them!
#227 [02:24] <nevercast> s/by/my/
#228 [02:24] <the_late_man> nevercast: pull a tom sawyer on them
#229 [02:24] <nevercast> ^_^
#230 [02:25] <the_late_man> dum-be doop di-de-dum
#231 [02:25] <nevercast> LOL
#232 [02:25] <nevercast> That's what this track sounds like :D
#233 [02:26] <the_late_man> you're listening to that annoying katamari music too?
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#235 [02:26] <nevercast> the_late_man: Progressive House.
#236 [02:26] <the_late_man> same difference
#237 [02:26] <the_late_man> anyway
#238 [02:26] <the_late_man> heya Patze
#239 [02:27] * the_late_man says "hi" to aubot
#239 [02:27] <the_late_man> hey, VoxelHead
#240 [02:29] <the_late_man> download, darnit
#241 [02:29] <the_late_man> it's only 2.4 GB >:
#242 [02:31] <the_late_man> blah blah slow download blah blah pi blah
#243 [02:32] <the_late_man> I wrote a quick prime number generator, but for some reason, it breaks if I use it once, and after that, input a large number into it
#244 [02:32] <the_late_man> =\
#245 [02:32] <the_late_man> that's what I get for testing cpp
#246 [02:33] <nevercast> the_late_man: LOL
#247 [02:33] <the_late_man> on the bright side, I made a 42.6 MB file out of it :D
#248 [02:33] <MuumiJumala> did i hear someone saying cp
#249 [02:33] <the_late_man> MuumiJumala: no.
#250 [02:33] <the_late_man> cpp, not cp
#251 [02:33] <MuumiJumala> aww shit
#252 [02:33] <the_late_man> .-.
#253 [02:34] <nevercast> I always wear my headset
#254 [02:34] <nevercast> Even when it's not plugged in
#255 [02:34] <nevercast> Feels uncomfortable without it
#256 [02:35] <the_late_man> that's good
#257 [02:35] <the_late_man> all the easier for SURPRISE GARROTING
#258 [02:35] <nevercast> lol.
#259 [02:36] <the_late_man> feh
#260 [02:36] <the_late_man> I need to test this thing out
#261 [02:36] <the_late_man> it says, "Please enter the number of primes you would like generated"
#262 [02:36] <the_late_man> hmm
#263 [02:36] <the_late_man> maybe 3bil
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#265 [02:37] <the_late_man> (the computer goes whirrrr)
#266 [02:37] <nevercast> xales, You have a bot right? irc bot?
#267 [02:37] <the_late_man> cpu usage averaging at 12
#268 [02:37] <xales> yes
#269 [02:37] <xales> why?
#270 [02:37] <nevercast> xales, does it have 'priviledge' levels?
#271 [02:38] <xales> yes
#272 [02:38] <nevercast> How were they implimented?
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#274 [02:38] <aetherian> privi ledge. I'm always falling off of it.
#275 [02:38] <aetherian> o.o
#276 [02:38] <nevercast> alol.
#277 [02:38] <xales> what do you mean?
#278 [02:38] <nevercast> xales, Is it a numerical value?
#279 [02:38] <xales> no
#280 [02:38] <xales> flag-based
#281 [02:38] <xales> .whoami
#282 [02:38] <M> You are "xales" with flags +zo
#283 [02:38] <nevercast> xales, Enum? Oh okay
#284 [02:38] <xales> .whois kealper
#285 [02:38] <xales> not enum
#286 [02:38] <aetherian> aaahhhhhhh, big stream of numbers rushing through a cmd ;_;
#287 [02:38] <xales> erm
#288 [02:38] <xales> .whois Kealper
#289 [02:38] <M> Kealper is 'Kealper' with flags +vie
#290 [02:38] <nevercast> .whois nevercast
#291 [02:38] <aetherian> scary...
#292 [02:39] <nevercast> Okay I see
#293 [02:39] <Kealper> rawr
#294 [02:39] <nevercast> Depending on flags depends on thier abilities?
#295 [02:39] <xales> yes
#296 [02:39] <xales> +z = all flags
#297 [02:39] <nevercast> Kealper: you were summoned :P
#298 [02:39] <aetherian> heya kelly
#299 [02:39] <xales> aren't I original, nevercast
#300 [02:39] <xales> if aflag == "z" and (flag == "f" or flag == "e" or flag == "h" or flag == "i" or flag == "k" or flag == "v" or flag == "t" or flag == "m" or flag == "a") then return t rue end
#301 [02:39] <xales> ._.
#302 [02:39] <Kealper> eew
#303 [02:39] <xales> yup
#304 [02:39] <nevercast> That...
#305 [02:39] <aetherian> t [tab] rue?
#306 [02:39] <xales> this bot has got to go
#307 [02:39] <nevercast> Is gross atually
#308 [02:40] <nevercast> *actually
#309 [02:40] <nevercast> Okay, and xales. How did you save users?
#310 [02:40] <nevercast> Are they nicknames?
#311 [02:40] <nevercast> Host mask?
#312 [02:40] <xales> example entry
#313 [02:40] <xales> (numbers are line numbers, ignore em)
#314 [02:40] <xales> 1 Admin{
#315 [02:40] <xales> 2 host = "%S+!xales@darksigns.net",
#316 [02:40] <xales> 3 level = 100,
#317 [02:40] <xales> 4 name = "xales",
#318 [02:40] <xales> 5 flags = {"z","o",},
#319 [02:40] <xales> 6 }
#320 [02:40] <Kealper> dude....my wrapper...literally is just If IsLevel($Username, "z") Then ;do this if flag is atleast z
#321 [02:40] <xales> the level= thing is old
#322 [02:41] <xales> ignore it
#323 [02:41] <xales> %S+ = regular expression
#324 [02:41] <nevercast> xales, Okay :)
#325 [02:41] <nevercast> Yes
#326 [02:41] <xales> means "at least one of anything that isn't a spce"
#327 [02:41] <xales> space
#328 [02:41] <nevercast> Yeah :)
#329 [02:42] <nevercast> I might have an import feature on mine too, importing current user mods, voice, op.. So if it was ever operator. it could auto-promote and such.
#330 [02:42] <nevercast> *modes
#331 [02:42] <nevercast> Kealper, does your bot have Multi-Channel support?
#332 [02:42] <Kealper> /whois AuBot
#333 [02:43] <nevercast> Kealper: lol okay
#334 [02:43] <nevercast> How did you handle that/
#335 [02:43] <xales> .mashcheck nevercast
#336 [02:43] <xales> dur
#337 [02:43] <xales> M
#338 [02:43] <Kealper> it's not hard to make that....
#339 [02:43] <xales> where are you
#340 [02:43] <xales> derp
#341 [02:43] <xales> .maskcheck nevercast
#342 [02:43] <M> %S+!nevercast@203%-173%-155%-49%.dsl%.dyn%.ihug%.co%.nz
#343 [02:43] <xales> ^lol ugly
#344 [02:44] <Kealper> hell, the functions in aubot even support multiple servers in multiple channels
#345 [02:44] <Kealper> well, most do
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#347 [02:44] <nevercast> :D
#348 [02:44] <nevercast> I'm thinking about making that framework out of the box
#349 [02:44] <nevercast> But I don't think I want to make it all high and mighty just yet
#350 [02:44] <xales> nevercast: what language is this in?
#351 [02:44] <nevercast> Because I'll get bored
#352 [02:44] <Kealper> i'd have to tweak the way aubot recieves data for it to work right
#353 [02:44] <nevercast> xales, a language you probably don't like
#354 [02:44] <xales> oh, right
#355 [02:44] <xales> C#
#356 [02:44] <xales> ._.
#357 [02:44] <nevercast> ;)
#358 [02:44] * xales cries in corner
#358 [02:45] <xales> actually no
#359 [02:45] <Kealper> nevercast: you should have said it was AutoIt and watched him rage
#360 [02:45] * xales kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: FUCKING C# GTFO (<3))
#361 [02:45] <xales> Kealper: C# < AutoIt
#362 [02:45] <gothroach> My main bot is in PHP right now :(
#363 [02:45] <xales> lol PHP bot
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#365 [02:45] <nevercast> :)
#366 [02:45] <xales> LOL
#367 [02:45] <Kealper> C# can't be THAT bad, can it? lol
#368 [02:45] <gothroach> I need to redo it in C.
#369 [02:45] <xales> your client has join on invite? or was that timed really well
#370 [02:45] <nevercast> Kealper, It isn't C#
#371 [02:45] <nevercast> *C# isn't bad
#372 [02:45] <nevercast> lol..
#373 [02:46] <xales> it is, quite bad
#374 [02:46] <xales> :<
#375 [02:46] <nevercast> xales, Join on Invite
#376 [02:46] <xales> wololol
#377 [02:46] <gothroach> Interesting, nevercast...
#378 [02:46] <nevercast> Don't invite me to random shit
#379 [02:46] <xales> orly
#380 [02:46] <xales> you didn't join the channel I invited you to
#381 [02:46] <xales> :<
#382 [02:46] <SinZ> xales: What languages do you aprove of?
#383 [02:46] <gothroach> We shall keep that tidbit in mind.
#384 [02:46] <xales> SinZ: C
#385 [02:46] <xales> umm
#386 [02:47] <xales> yeah
#387 [02:47] <xales> C
#388 [02:47] <xales> :P
#389 [02:47] <Kealper> lol
#390 [02:47] <nevercast> Kealper, http://pastebin.com/zTZG44a3
#391 [02:47] <nevercast> Kealper, That code gets me logged in, Joined, and lingering
#392 [02:47] <Kealper> nevercast: want to hate me?
#393 [02:47] <nevercast> Kealper, Ping/Pong is handled sub-level.
#394 [02:47] <gothroach> xales: Have you ever had to use Dynamic C?
#395 [02:47] <nevercast> Kealper: Lol I don't hate you.. lol wait.. What you going to do?
#396 [02:47] <Kealper> ofcourse you do!
#397 [02:47] <xales> gothroach: dynamic C?
#398 [02:48] <xales> nevercast: because of the library you are using
#399 [02:48] <xales> do it right and don't use a library
#400 [02:48] <xales> cheater D:
#401 [02:48] <gothroach> It's a variant of C used on Rabbit microcontrollers.
#402 [02:48] <nevercast> xales, Don't be a hater :D
#403 [02:48] <Kealper> nevercast: it didn't accept the invite
#404 [02:48] <nevercast> xales, Why reinvent the wheel
#405 [02:48] <Kealper> and yeah....code your own set of irc functions...
#406 [02:48] <nevercast> Kealper, Maybe it's not auto join on invite
#407 [02:48] <gothroach> It almost turned me off to C completely :(
#408 [02:48] <nevercast> Kealper, maybe it's auto join on kick
#409 [02:48] * xales kicked nevercast from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: testing one two eighty-nine)
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#411 [02:48] <xales> :<
#412 [02:48] <nevercast> Yup, Auto Join on Kick
#413 [02:49] <xales> nope
#414 [02:49] <nevercast> <3 Irssi
#415 [02:49] <xales> auto join on invite
#416 [02:49] <xales> actually
#417 [02:49] <xales> that's the default
#418 [02:49] <nevercast> really?
#419 [02:49] <xales> if you automatically join the channel upon connecting
#420 [02:49] <nevercast> But I didn't auto join Kealpers channel
#421 [02:49] <xales> you will also join the channel when invited
#422 [02:49] <Kealper> xales kick me then send an invite back into here
#423 [02:49] * xales kicked Kealper from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: hi.)
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#425 [02:49] <xales> yup
#426 [02:49] <xales> if you have the channel marked "-auto" in irssi
#427 [02:49] <xales> you will join it when invited
#428 [02:49] <Kealper> awesome :o
#429 [02:49] <nevercast> Ahh!
#430 [02:49] <nevercast> Awesome <3
#431 [02:50] <gothroach> Oy, the channel notice >.<
#432 [02:50] <nevercast> Yeah, 'Esper' network is all auto
#433 [02:50] <xales> gothroach: I have no idea why it decides to send those some times
#434 [02:50] <xales> and not other times
#435 [02:50] <xales> D:
#436 [02:50] <aetherian> xales: you power hungry maniac >.>
#437 [02:50] <gothroach> Boredom?
#438 [02:50] <aetherian> too much red text
#439 [02:50] <aetherian> it's ugly
#440 [02:50] * xales kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: ORLY)
#441 [02:50] <Kealper> damnit
#442 [02:50] <Kealper> ninja'd
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#444 [02:50] * xales kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: ORLY)
#445 [02:50] <nevercast> I'm going to make my bot SSL
#446 [02:50] <Kealper> stupid long kick messages
#447 [02:50] <nevercast> Time for System.Web.Security.SSLStream <3
#448 [02:50] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#449 [02:51] <aetherian> YARLY
#450 [02:51] * xales kicked aetherian from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: 02S12O 06I 05H07E08A09R03D 11Y12O02U 13L05I04K08E 03C09O11L10O02R12S 06a04l05s07o 09i03n10b114 02K06e13a05l04p08e07r)
#451 [02:51] <Kealper> nevercast: if that lib you have for irc does ssl, that is just too easy >.>
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#453 [02:51] <Kealper> ohgosh
#454 [02:51] <xales> lol
#455 [02:51] <aetherian> purple text :D
#456 [02:51] <nevercast> Kealper, I don't think it does...
#457 [02:51] <nevercast> Kealper, Hence why I have the source.. so I can impliment it :D
#458 [02:51] <aetherian> lol
#459 [02:51] <xales> 04I 07L08I09K03E 11C12O02L06O13R 04S08C07R03I09P11T10S
#460 [02:51] <xales> VoxelHead: you are a bitch
#461 [02:52] <aetherian> then keep trying to turn it off :O
#462 [02:52] <xales> I swear, eggdrops just strike me as being retarded
#463 [02:52] <xales> :<
#464 [02:52] <Kealper> i've always hated eggdrop bots
#465 [02:52] <aetherian> more of a hot and sour guy myself
#466 [02:52] <aetherian> wonton's good too
#467 [02:53] <Kealper> funny you should say that
#468 [02:53] <Kealper> lol
#469 [02:53] <gothroach> Dominus, part
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#471 [02:53] <aetherian> eating some now?
#472 [02:53] <Kealper> no
#473 [02:53] <aetherian> ohh, I get it
#474 [02:53] <Kealper> xales is making a bot core called Wonton lol
#475 [02:53] <aetherian> it was a funny joke.
#476 [02:53] <aetherian> oh
#477 [02:53] <aetherian> ;_;
#478 [02:53] <AG_Scott> I want a wonton :(
#479 [02:53] <nevercast> ^
#480 [02:53] <Kealper> which is supposed to not suck as much ass as eggdrop
#481 [02:53] <AG_Scott> I need a japanese chef.
#482 [02:53] <AG_Scott> I want sushi, damn it.
#483 [02:53] <aetherian> AG_Scott: me too ):
#484 [02:54] <nevercast> Lol
#485 [02:54] <aetherian> not the sushi
#486 [02:54] <nevercast> The amount of japanese in New Zealand
#487 [02:54] <aetherian> I never really cared for sushi, myself
#488 [02:54] <nevercast> There is sushi in every food court
#489 [02:54] <AG_Scott> I'm a vegetarian so I naturally don't get any with seafood and mushrooms.
#490 [02:54] <aetherian> nevercast: they let the shi have that much power?
#491 [02:54] * lukegb feeds Scott with raw beef.
#491 [02:55] <aetherian> heh. su shi. heh.
#492 [02:55] <AG_Scott> lukegb, be glad this channel must remain PG. :>
#493 [02:55] <xales> Kealper: it's a bit on hold
#494 [02:55] <xales> considering that Python networking is literally
#495 [02:55] <xales> fucking stupid
#496 [02:55] <AG_Scott> use ruby!
#497 [02:55] <nevercast> aetherian: I can work chop sticks like a master :D
#498 [02:55] <xales> AG_Scott: hahahahaha. no
#499 [02:55] <nevercast> aetherian: and I was born in NZ :D
#500 [02:55] <Kealper> xales: i could have told you that much about python
#501 [02:55] <aetherian> I fail it at chopsticks >:
#502 [02:56] <AG_Scott> I made a bot in ruby.
#503 [02:56] <Kealper> it's absolute GARBAGE under windows
#504 [02:56] <AG_Scott> It's not threaded so once you do !start
#505 [02:56] <AG_Scott> you have to kill it
#506 [02:56] <nevercast> I made a 3rd person zombie shooter in Python
#507 [02:56] <nevercast> :D
#508 [02:56] <Kealper> aubot isn't threadded O.o
#509 [02:56] <aetherian> :O
#510 [02:56] <xales> ._.
#511 [02:56] <nevercast> Python has DirectX binds
#512 [02:56] <xales> anyway
#513 [02:56] <Kealper> it's also got opengl binds too
#514 [02:56] <AG_Scott> we should put it in #minecraft and make it catch all tweets by mojang and replies to them.
#515 [02:56] <Kealper> see: pygame
#516 [02:56] <xales> as much as I would like to continue discussing programming languages
#517 [02:56] * xales needs to go to bed
#517 [02:57] <Kealper> bah
#518 [02:57] <lukegb> xales: yeah, I haet pynetworking
#519 [02:57] <nevercast> AG_Scott: Couldn't we just make it stalk twitter?
#520 [02:57] <nevercast> Night xales.
#521 [02:57] <AG_Scott> all of twitter?
#522 [02:57] <aetherian> xales
#523 [02:57] <AG_Scott> it basically stalks the listed users
#524 [02:57] <nevercast> AG_Scott: No just @notch
#525 [02:57] <AG_Scott> yes
#526 [02:57] <AG_Scott> thats what it does
#527 [02:57] <aetherian> xaaales
#528 [02:57] <nevercast> Actually
#529 [02:57] <nevercast> It should stalk
#530 [02:57] <nevercast> http://twitter.com/nvrcast/minecraft
#531 [02:57] <nevercast> :D
#532 [02:57] <aetherian> xaaaaales
#533 [02:57] <AG_Scott> it will say on irc every tweet by him, tweets replying to him, and tweets mentioning him.
#534 [02:57] <aetherian> D:
#535 [02:57] <AG_Scott> It's very stalkerish
#536 [02:58] <nevercast> AG_Scott: I just have TweetDeck
#537 [02:58] <nevercast> It handles that for me
#538 [02:58] <gothroach> ...Twitter.
#539 [02:58] <xales> LOL
#540 [02:58] <xales> really, funny
#541 [02:58] <AG_Scott> I used an IRC and twitter library to code this
#542 [02:58] <xales> quote from another channel
#543 [02:58] <xales> with a bot in it
#544 [02:58] <xales> 02:57:33 <@tmtgr> !known the
#545 [02:58] <xales> 02:57:34 <@harry> the is known (6902 contexts)
#546 [02:58] <xales> 02:57:40 <@tmtgr> no i deleted your brain
#547 [02:58] <Kealper> !load mod_tweet
#548 [02:58] <xales> 02:57:46 <@tmtgr> !quit
#549 [02:58] <Kealper> am i doin it right?
#550 [02:58] <xales> "no i deleted your brain"
#551 [02:58] <xales> LOL
#552 [02:58] <AG_Scott> it's like 10 line
#553 [02:58] <AG_Scott> s
#554 [02:58] <aetherian> oohh xales
#555 [02:58] <xales> anyway
#556 [02:58] <lukegb> xales: also lolsupybot
#557 [02:59] <xales> lukegb: also lolskybot
#558 [02:59] <nevercast> xales, does irssi have the support to random colour each user?
#559 [02:59] <xales> yes
#560 [02:59] <xales> with a script
#561 [02:59] <Kealper> scripts
#562 [02:59] <nevercast> xales, because this convo is very hard to read when moving fast
#563 [02:59] <Kealper> pimp irssi's theme then
#564 [02:59] <nevercast> :O
#565 [02:59] <lukegb> xales: but supybot makes me cry due to it's lack of documentation
#566 [02:59] <aetherian> don't
#567 [02:59] <aetherian> I'm always pink it seems >.>
#568 [02:59] <Kealper> also...nevercast is this your first time using irssi?
#569 [02:59] <xales> nevercast: http://scripts.irssi.org/ nickcolor.pl
#570 [03:00] <xales> ANYWAY
#571 [03:00] * xales goes to sleep now
#571 [03:00] <Kealper> because it can be a little weird the first time
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#573 [03:00] <Kealper> (twss)
#574 [03:00] <Kealper> man, if only aetherian had joined a second before he did
#575 [03:00] <aetherian> yeah
#576 [03:00] <aetherian> what a bum
#577 [03:00] <Kealper> that would have been awkward to join in to and see that
#578 [03:00] <nevercast> Right now how do I load that script :D
#579 [03:00] <Kealper> <@Kealper> because it can be a little weird the first time
#580 [03:01] <Kealper> is your script where it should be?
#581 [03:01] <aetherian> Kealper: I'm missing something here...
#582 [03:01] <aetherian> (apart from my brain)
#583 [03:01] <nevercast> Kealper: I've no idea where it should be
#584 [03:01] <Kealper> ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun or something like that
#585 [03:01] <nevercast> ahh
#586 [03:02] <nevercast> Then I need to create .irssi in my user directory
#587 [03:02] <Kealper> irssi creates it for you?
#588 [03:02] <Kealper> wait
#589 [03:02] <nevercast> Kealper, indeed it does, it contains config
#590 [03:02] <Kealper> windoze
#591 [03:02] <nevercast> No it has created it :)
#592 [03:02] <Kealper> oh lol
#593 [03:02] <aetherian> irssi on windows is fail
#594 [03:02] <Kealper> well....place it in that folder and it will auto load those on start
#595 [03:03] <nevercast> Kealper: Can I load it without restart?
#596 [03:03] <Kealper> yeah
#597 [03:03] <nevercast> ... ?
#598 [03:03] <Kealper> /load somescript.pl
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#600 [03:03] <Kealper> might need to say it's in the auto folder though
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#602 [03:04] <Kealper> and yeah it is scripts\autorun that you need
#603 [03:04] <Kealper> just checked
#604 [03:04] <nevercast> Kealper, I gave it's full address. Starting from ~/.irssi
#605 [03:04] <nevercast> Kealper, I don't know where it was expecting it to be
#606 [03:05] <Kealper> yeah, idk either lol....rarely do i actually manually load scripts >.>
#607 [03:05] <Kealper> i smell a /sysinfo script about to be used!
#608 [03:05] <Kealper> Hostname: jodi.businessadvances.com - OS: Linux 2.6.18-164.el5PAE/i686 - CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ (2100.051 MHz) - Processes: 138 - Uptime: 435d 2h 3m - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 316.09MB/1501.97MB (21.04%) - Disk Usage: 15.04GB/67.24GB (22.37%)
#609 [03:05] <Kealper> 435 day uptime...me gusta
#610 [03:06] <Kealper> also....with C#
#611 [03:07] <nevercast> O.o
#612 [03:07] <aetherian> now that's just mean
#613 [03:07] <nevercast> WTF
#614 [03:07] <nevercast> Fail script
#615 [03:07] <nevercast> Kealper is Purple, aetherian is magenta
#616 [03:07] <nevercast> REAL DIFFENCE THERE <3
#617 [03:07] <Kealper> C#'s OO stuff....looks just like BASIC's
#618 [03:07] <aetherian> wait wait
#619 [03:07] <Kealper> well...VB's OO stuff
#620 [03:07] <nevercast> Kealper, Basic doesn't have OOP :D
#621 [03:07] * aetherian googles what magenta looks like
#621 [03:07] <nevercast> VB.Net ?
#622 [03:08] <Kealper> with the $variable.FunctionName($SomethingHere)
#623 [03:08] <Kealper> yeah, that
#624 [03:08] <nevercast> Yeah because they both use the same .Net framework lol.
#625 [03:08] <nevercast> and Class.Method
#626 [03:08] <Kealper> shhhh >.>
#627 [03:08] <nevercast> makes sense
#628 [03:08] <aetherian> DAMMIT NEVERCAST
#629 [03:08] <nevercast> aetherian: What?
#630 [03:08] <Kealper> AutoIt does that for it's OO interactions too :/
#631 [03:08] <aetherian> I /TOLD/ you I was going to end up pink >:
#632 [03:08] <nevercast> Haha :D
#633 [03:08] <aetherian> D:<
#634 [03:08] <nevercast> Kealper: It's a sensible convention
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#636 [03:09] <nevercast> Kealper: Java does the same, as do a lot of languages
#637 [03:09] <Kealper> i actually like it, although i must say it looks weird in a C-based syntax lol
#638 [03:09] <nevercast> Right, Now to open this libraries source and impliment SSL
#639 [03:09] <nevercast> Ha
#640 [03:09] <Kealper> SSL is going to be a bastard and a half, you know that right?
#641 [03:09] <nevercast> Unusual, not weird.. Start using it and you'll get used to it
#642 [03:09] <nevercast> Kealper: It'll take me about half an hour, yes.
#643 [03:10] <aetherian> why, that's only half a bastard!
#644 [03:10] <Kealper> O.o does C# have stuff for doing SSL?
#645 [03:10] <Kealper> if i wanted to do that stuff in AutoIt i'd have to fight with OpenSSL's API
#646 [03:11] <aetherian> hey, anyone here ever use tinycorelinux?
#647 [03:11] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/LJ72p.png
#648 [03:11] <Kealper> aetherian: no
#649 [03:11] <nevercast> Kealper, I'm a good programmer, I know C# like a god, I know .NET library better than the back of my hand. AND!! afaik it has a very extensive security namespace for encryption stuff.
#650 [03:12] <aetherian> lmao, Kealper
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#653 [03:13] <Kealper> nevercast: oh...AutoIt doesn't have a fun set of stuff for doing SSL and the likes....it can do key-based encryptions, but not the public/private-key ones like SSL :/
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#655 [03:14] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/fGHd7.jpg
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#657 [03:14] <Kealper> lol...
#658 [03:14] <nevercast> Kealper, Everything from SSL, AES, DES, RSA and the like, all have their own classes under the 'Cryptography' namespace
#659 [03:14] <Kealper> hmm
#660 [03:15] * Kealper goes to dig through Crypt.au3 to see what all it can/can't do
#660 [03:15] <nevercast> AES aes = new AES(key and iv and shit goes in params);
#661 [03:15] <nevercast> aes.Decrypt
#662 [03:15] <nevercast> aes.Encrypt
#663 [03:15] <nevercast> :)
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#665 [03:16] <Kealper> bah.... $encrypted =_Crypt_EncryptData($data, $CALG_AES_256) lol
#666 [03:16] <NERZirconium> Hi all
#667 [03:16] <Kealper> hi
#668 [03:16] <aetherian> hi
#669 [03:17] <nevercast> Okay, I think SSL should be implimented
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#671 [03:18] <nevercast> Kealper, All servers have SSL yeah?
#672 [03:18] <Kealper> yes
#673 [03:18] <Kealper> port 6697
#674 [03:18] <Kealper> hmm...looks like Crypt.au3 only supports
#675 [03:18] <Kealper> (getting list)
#676 [03:19] <nevercast> Oops!
#677 [03:19] <NERZirconium> i have alittle question about minecraft mods
#678 [03:19] <Kealper> MD2, MD4, MD5, SHA1, 3DES, AES-128, AES-192, AES-256, DES, RC2, and RC4
#679 [03:20] <Kealper> NERZirconium: if we can answer it, we'll be happy to, if we can't, we can point you to who should be able to
#680 [03:20] <nevercast> Kealper, not a bad collection. Although most of that is Hashing
#681 [03:21] <nevercast> Kealper: Actually no, most IS encryption.
#682 [03:21] <Kealper> it does hash and encryption
#683 [03:21] <nevercast> Yeah as does C#
#684 [03:21] <Kealper> the MDs are hashing
#685 [03:21] <nevercast> and SHA1
#686 [03:21] <Kealper> yeah, that too
#687 [03:21] <aetherian> Kealper: hash...browns, I hope
#688 [03:21] <nevercast> Lol aetherian
#689 [03:21] <Kealper> i'm actually not sure what 3DES is....never poked at it
#690 [03:21] <NERZirconium> i want to try the a mod but i've not seen instructions on how to install the server's side, only the client's side using TFC's mod manager utility. Is this "normal" ?
#691 [03:21] <nevercast> Sometimes I want to ignore you aetherian, But you're too funny to keep out of my irc life.
#692 [03:21] <aetherian> <3
#693 [03:22] <nevercast> Kealper, 3 Times DES? I'm going to assume it's rediculous encryption strength.
#694 [03:22] <Kealper> NERZirconium: if it does not say how to install it to a server, then it's probably a single player only mod
#695 [03:23] * Kealper looks at what 3DES is
#695 [03:23] <Kealper> nevercast: nailed it
#696 [03:23] <Kealper> triple data encryption standard
#697 [03:23] <NERZirconium> i'm talking about Kaevator's K2 mod
#698 [03:23] <aetherian> yay, only 7 minutes remaining for my download :D
#699 [03:24] <NERZirconium> he says it's working in Multiplayer
#700 [03:24] <Kealper> oh....no idea then...you'd have to ask the maker
#701 [03:24] <Kealper> but
#702 [03:24] <Kealper> #risucraft might know
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#704 [03:25] <NERZirconium> ok thanks a lot for your help.
#705 [03:25] <nevercast> Kealper, My Ssl mod has errors :(
#706 [03:25] <nevercast> lol.
#707 [03:26] <Kealper> :o
#708 [03:26] <aetherian> hell yesh
#709 [03:26] <aetherian> my paper is finished
#710 [03:27] <Kealper> hmm...3DES does not sound that good
#711 [03:27] <aetherian> now I just gotta read an act of the tempest, read some of this other book, do history homework, and who knows what else
#712 [03:27] * nevercast overrides SSL Certificate Verification :D
#712 [03:27] <nevercast> ACCEPT ALL DAMN IT
#713 [03:27] <Kealper> it just relies on encrypting stuff 3 times using 56-bit DES...
#714 [03:27] <Kealper> nevercast: lol
#715 [03:29] <Kealper> hmm...Blowfish...an MMO i used to play used that encryption on their sensitive game packets
#716 [03:31] <nevercast> kealper, yeah lol.
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#718 [03:36] <nevercast> Kealper, One sec, If I redo the Code flow in this very well thought out library, I think I can make it better LOL
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#720 [03:37] <Delilah> Oh Shi-, SSL Worked!
#721 [03:37] * Delilah giggles.
#721 [03:37] <nevercast> Kealper, :D
#722 [03:37] <Kealper> lol
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#724 [03:38] <Delilah> Oh Shi-, SSL Worked!
#725 [03:38] * Delilah giggles.
#725 [03:38] <nevercast> Ahh what
#726 [03:38] <nevercast> OH!
#727 [03:38] <nevercast> lol.
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#729 [03:38] <Kealper> owned
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#731 [03:38] <Delilah> Oh Shi-, SSL Worked!
#732 [03:38] * Delilah giggles.
#732 [03:38] <aska990> Hello everyone
#733 [03:38] <Kealper> hi
#734 [03:38] <nevercast> I better get rid of that non-nick checking bot :D
#735 [03:39] <Kealper> hmm..i'm sure i can get a prefab set of SSL functions from the AutoIt forums....
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#737 [03:40] <nevercast> Kealper, Can I dev my bot in your dev channel?
#738 [03:40] <KentBallz> hey nevercast can you make a different computer at the same IP server host?
#739 [03:41] <aska990> I want to buy Minecraft, but do not have a CB or a Paypal account (I'm under 18)
#740 [03:41] <aska990> I can pay with my mother's CB, but she wants to be sure that the payment on minecraft.net is totally secured
#741 [03:42] <aska990> Can you help me ?
#742 [03:42] <nipper> aska990 user paypal to pay
#743 [03:42] <nipper> Then it will be secured by them.
#744 [03:42] <KentBallz> just have her set up a pay pal real quick I use it all the for ebay and stuff super secure
#745 [03:42] <nevercast> Kealper: Yes
#746 [03:43] <nevercast> Oops
#747 [03:43] <nevercast> KentBallz: Yes you can
#748 [03:43] <KentBallz> how would I go about that?
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#750 [03:43] <nevercast> aska990: If you see 'https' in your address bar, It's secure
#751 [03:43] <KentBallz> ^also true
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#753 [03:44] <KentBallz> nevercast how would I go about switching the host from the one computer to the other?
#754 [03:45] <nevercast> KentBallz: we talking from the outside world right?
#755 [03:46] <KentBallz> yea I made it on a laptop and realized the desktop would be the better option because I can leave it running
#756 [03:46] <nevercast> KentBallz: Then you just port forward to the desktop instead
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#758 [03:47] <KentBallz> nevercast: ahhh ok I think I can do that
#759 [03:48] <nevercast> KentBallz: Let us know if you have problems
#760 [03:48] * nevercast is reimplimenting Databases because he wants it multiplatform without dependencies :D
#760 [03:51] <Kealper> hmm...a Microsoft COM object called SChannel....
#761 [03:51] <nevercast> Kealper: What does it do?
#762 [03:51] <nevercast> Kealper: and to be honest, Com is as bad as ActiveX :P
#763 [03:53] <Kealper> nevercast: easy SSL, TLS, and others
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#765 [03:54] <Kealper> that has to be the worst-documented com object ever
#766 [03:55] <nevercast> haha
#767 [03:55] <Aska990> Hello-again
#768 [03:55] <Aska990> Can you read what I write (huge lag)
#769 [03:55] <Aska990> ?
#770 [03:55] <Kealper> litterally 5 miles of page and it does not cover anything on how to use it, just explains what it does....only example is some code that it doesn't even say what language
#771 [03:55] <Kealper> yes Aska990
#772 [03:56] <Kealper> and brb
#773 [03:56] <Aska990> thanks
#774 [03:57] <Aska990> so I was saying, is the payment with credit card secured on Minecraft.net ?
#775 [03:57] <Kealper> should be
#776 [03:57] <Aska990> my mother wants to be sure :/
#777 [03:58] <Kealper> they go through a secure 3rd-party banking site for credit card purchaces
#778 [03:58] <Kealper> easiest way to see if it's secure is to look at the URL of the website
#779 [03:58] <Kealper> if it starts with "https://" then it is secure
#780 [03:58] <Kealper> if it just says "http://
#781 [03:58] <Kealper> then it is not and i totally missed that "
#782 [03:59] <KentBallz> nevercast that worked great thanks!
#783 [03:59] <nevercast> KentBallz: welcome.
#784 [03:59] <KentBallz> nevercast also is there a way to have a world without so many huge mountains?
#785 [03:59] <nevercast> KentBallz: yes... Diamond Shovel :D
#786 [03:59] <Aska990> thanks, it's https
#787 [04:00] <Aska990> Mozilla says me that it is encrypted in 256 bits
#788 [04:00] <Zemedelphos> Then its' secure
#789 [04:01] <KentBallz> nevercast haha yea but I keep deleting the world file trying to get one that isn't like 50-100 block tall mountains right off the go
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#793 [04:01] <KentBallz> with no luck keeps sticking me with monster montains
#794 [04:03] <KentBallz> nevercast: I take that back its spawning me to the exact same map every time perhaps I'm deleting the wrong files>
#795 [04:03] <KentBallz> ?
#796 [04:03] <nevercast> KentBallz: Lol that's the map gen.
#797 [04:04] <nevercast> The map generator will do that :)
#798 [04:04] <nevercast> It's made to make real maps
#799 [04:04] <Kealper> aha! IClientSecurity interface is what it uses....stupid vague Microsoft
#800 [04:05] <KentBallz> how can I make it spawn me a different map I thought it was delete the files in world>region
#801 [04:05] <Kealper> delete the enture world folder
#802 [04:05] <Kealper> entire*
#803 [04:05] <Kealper> and wow why is my ssh lagging so bad
#804 [04:05] <KentBallz> kealper: ah ha thanks
#805 [04:05] <Zemedelphos> Wait, if he's trying to get a new map, why not just delete the world? o.o
#806 [04:07] <nevercast> Zemedelphos: That's what he did
#807 [04:07] <Zemedelphos> You can just do that in the client, though? Why send him through the save files to do it?
#808 [04:08] <nevercast> Zemedelphos: You can do that in the client?
#809 [04:09] <nevercast> Zemedelphos: You do realise he's using a server, not single player. Right?
#810 [04:09] <Zemedelphos> Yeah. You highlight the world, then click the
#811 [04:09] <Zemedelphos> Oh.
#812 [04:09] <Zemedelphos> No, no one told me that.
#813 [04:09] <nevercast> Okay.
#814 [04:09] <nevercast> He's using a server, Zemedelphos.
#815 [04:09] <KentBallz> lol yea
#816 [04:09] <Zemedelphos> lol, yeah.
#817 [04:10] <Zemedelphos> Then just throw out the current world folder or rename it.
#818 [04:10] <KentBallz> yea I've just been deleting and looking at the new ones until I find one I like
#819 [04:11] <Zemedelphos> If you know of a seed that generates a mapl like you want
#820 [04:11] <Zemedelphos> generate it in ssp
#821 [04:11] <Zemedelphos> then you can just move the folder to the server
#822 [04:12] <KentBallz> I wish I did
#823 [04:12] <Zemedelphos> Well, Gargamel is a pretty nice one. There's quite a few mountains in it. Even one made out of sand.
#824 [04:13] <nevercast> The seeds are words?
#825 [04:13] <Zemedelphos> They can be
#826 [04:14] <Zemedelphos> And I think the name affects your spawn point
#827 [04:14] <Zemedelphos> because everyone who's used gargamel as the seed (capitolization matters) and Gargamel as the name spawned in a cave
#828 [04:14] <Zemedelphos> So yeah, try using the seed gargamel, see if you like it.
#829 [04:14] <nevercast> There was a seed name posted on Twitter a while back lol.
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#831 [04:15] <Zemedelphos> There's a thread on the forum
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#834 [04:22] <KentBallz> nevercast are you like a developer or just a smart guy who likes to answer questions?
#835 [04:24] <AG_Scott> nevercast gets pleasure from assisting n00bs.
#836 [04:25] <nevercast> KentBallz: I'm a developer, but not of Minecraft.
#837 [04:25] <nevercast> KentBallz: Also.. what AG_Scott said :D
#838 [04:26] <KentBallz> well you have definitly helped me a ton as well as mush
#839 [04:28] <KentBallz> nevercast what game are you developing?
#840 [04:29] <nevercast> KentBallz: I'm not working on any games at the moment.
#841 [04:29] <nevercast> KentBallz: I was a developer of WOEmu for 2 years
#842 [04:30] <nevercast> KentBallz: Currently doing my own little projects.
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#844 [04:31] <KentBallz> nevercast: I see a friend of mine is just finishing up school for programming
#845 [04:31] <KentBallz> game design and programming
#846 [04:31] <Aska990> ok I go, thanks everyone
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#849 [04:33] <nevercast> KentBallz: Yeah I'm doing at College doing Software Development.
#850 [04:33] <nevercast> ... Woo Engrish <3
#851 [04:35] <KentBallz> nevercast haha o engrish funny he is more in game design than programming so I don't ask him to many technical questions
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#855 [04:38] <nevercast> KentBallz: All I used to do was make games, I made an awesome game which I lost in an HDD failure.. I've not made one since.
#856 [04:43] <mib_xbqi7n> hello there
#857 [04:43] <mib_xbqi7n> lil question
#858 [04:44] <mib_xbqi7n> i bought minecraft yesterday but i still didnt get it running
#859 [04:44] <KentBallz> nevercast: HDD?
#860 [04:44] <nevercast> KentBallz: Hard disk drive.
#861 [04:44] <KentBallz> ouch
#862 [04:44] <mib_xbqi7n> pardon me?
#863 [04:45] <KentBallz> whats it do?
#864 [04:45] <mib_xbqi7n> it gets stuck in the loading screen
#865 [04:45] <mib_xbqi7n> at about 90%
#866 [04:46] <mib_xbqi7n> is that bad?
#867 [04:46] <KentBallz> on the downloaded version I'm assuming?
#868 [04:46] <mib_xbqi7n> and on the server as well
#869 [04:46] <mib_xbqi7n> not able to play it at all
#870 [04:47] <KentBallz> on the browser version it gets stuck?
#871 [04:47] <mib_xbqi7n> yes
#872 [04:47] <KentBallz> did you try deleting it and reinstalling?
#873 [04:47] <mib_xbqi7n> yes
#874 [04:47] <mib_xbqi7n> and reinstalling my java
#875 [04:47] <mib_xbqi7n> but nothing worked
#876 [04:48] <mib_xbqi7n> any other ideas?
#877 [04:48] <KentBallz> nevercast any ideas?
#878 [04:48] <KentBallz> I'm a noob myself I was in here seeking help
#879 [04:49] <mib_xbqi7n> okay
#880 [04:49] <mib_xbqi7n> well then i´m doomed
#881 [04:49] <SinZ> not yet
#882 [04:49] <KentBallz> lol give it a sec there is alot of smart people on this chat
#883 [04:50] <SinZ> Operating System?
#884 [04:51] <mib_xbqi7n> windows xp
#885 [04:51] <mib_xbqi7n> intel duo core
#886 [04:51] <mib_xbqi7n> ati
#887 [04:51] <nevercast> CPU checks out..
#888 [04:51] <nevercast> Any idea what loads at 90%?
#889 [04:51] <arensirb> ehm
#890 [04:51] <arensirb> mib_xbqi7n: Using browser or downloaded .exe?
#891 [04:51] <nevercast> mib_xbqi7n: Have you redownloaded the client AND deleted your .minecraft folder?
#892 [04:51] <mib_xbqi7n> yeah first it said something that it was downloading files
#893 [04:51] <mib_xbqi7n> both
#894 [04:52] <arensirb> aha, ok
#895 [04:52] <mib_xbqi7n> but its the same mistake
#896 [04:52] <nevercast> mib_xbqi7n: What is your username on your computer?
#897 [04:52] <nevercast> mib_xbqi7n: Windows user?
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#899 [04:52] <SinZ> why you need there username
#900 [04:52] <mib_xbqi7n> wait a sec
#901 [04:52] <nevercast> mib_xbqi7n: Actually that isn't needed...
#902 [04:53] <nevercast> SinZ: I forgot about AppData Environ
#903 [04:53] <SinZ> mib_xbqi7n: In any folder window, go to the address bar and type this: "%appdata%\.minecraft\
#904 [04:53] <SinZ> "
#905 [04:53] <nevercast> mib_xbqi7n: From there, delete the bin folder
#906 [04:54] <mib_xbqi7n> ok ill try thanks
#907 [04:58] <mib_xbqi7n> hah!!! it worked! thank you so much :)
#908 [04:59] <KentBallz> bam another satisfied customer
#909 [05:00] <SinZ> aye
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#911 [05:01] <aph3x> hi there, i have a savegame issue, is this the right channel for disscusion about it =) ?
#912 [05:01] <Zemedelphos> Yes
#913 [05:01] <Sqozza> Yes, yes iti s.
#914 [05:01] <aph3x> perfectly :)
#915 [05:01] <Sqozza> Ask away.
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#917 [05:02] <aph3x> i run a server on my own machine so far (intel x64, win7) everything went ok so far. i played a couple of hours with a friend.... later, when my pal was already offline, it happens that my machine froze
#918 [05:02] <aph3x> i had to restard to, to find what i expected, a cropped saved world.
#919 [05:03] <aph3x> i backuped it, startet the server, which generated a new map.
#920 [05:03] <aph3x> in this map, i have a "really strange genereated map" in front of me, like somebody cut out a major part of the region
#921 [05:03] <SinZ> corrupted world im guessing
#922 [05:03] <aph3x> yeah, i thought the same, BUT
#923 [05:04] <aph3x> when my pal connects to this world, he is ON the OLD map
#924 [05:04] <SinZ> any mods
#925 [05:04] <aph3x> which is totally ok for him
#926 [05:04] <aph3x> nope
#927 [05:04] <Zemedelphos> As in you two are in different maps?
#928 [05:04] <aph3x> nearly
#929 [05:04] <aph3x> as a part of the map is missing
#930 [05:04] <aph3x> where he is
#931 [05:04] <aph3x> we can chat and everything
#932 [05:04] <aph3x> i copied all his files but it didnt worked for me
#933 [05:04] <SinZ> ok... Relog for you, and see if you can see it
#934 [05:05] <aph3x> http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4984/minecraft2w.jpg
#935 [05:05] <aph3x> this is what it looks like for me
#936 [05:05] <SinZ> hmm, not missing chunk
#937 [05:05] <aph3x> well i shut down the server several times
#938 [05:06] <aph3x> and relogged many times :D
#939 [05:06] <Zemedelphos> It's a chunk error.
#940 [05:06] <aph3x> yeah, but isnt there a way to "reset" my character or something like that ?
#941 [05:06] <aph3x> and to get access to his files ?
#942 [05:07] <Zemedelphos> If it's a server, you're not on some different files.
#943 [05:07] <Zemedelphos> Are you actually standing near him?
#944 [05:07] <aph3x> nope
#945 [05:07] <aph3x> teleport wont work also
#946 [05:07] <aph3x> he is offline now anyway
#947 [05:07] <Zemedelphos> Hmm
#948 [05:07] <Zemedelphos> Try generating a new world completely.
#949 [05:08] <aph3x> and then ?
#950 [05:08] <Zemedelphos> Play on it.
#951 [05:09] <aph3x> oh ;O so u think im not going to be able to get back to his version ?
#952 [05:09] <aph3x> we build a lotta stuff :>
#953 [05:10] <Zemedelphos> Hmm
#954 [05:10] <Zemedelphos> How about next time he gets on
#955 [05:10] <Zemedelphos> both of you try going to the same co-ordinates
#956 [05:10] <Zemedelphos> press f3 then both of you walk toward each other.
#957 [05:10] <aph3x> oh i never checked that
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#959 [05:11] <aph3x> but when we are online at the same time, the server sends about 100 errors per sek.
#960 [05:11] <Zemedelphos> Only after this issue, or always?
#961 [05:11] <aph3x> i would like to connect to the server like its my very first time ?
#962 [05:11] <aph3x> after that issue
#963 [05:11] <Zemedelphos> Then yeah
#964 [05:11] <Zemedelphos> You probably need to generate a new world.
#965 [05:11] <Zemedelphos> I'm sorry
#966 [05:12] <aph3x> darn too bad
#967 [05:13] <aph3x> what if im deleting my player file ? or do u think a new one has already been generated ?
#968 [05:13] <Zemedelphos> You could try that for both characters.
#969 [05:13] <aph3x> yeah, i mean i can get back to the items i lost later :>
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#971 [05:16] <aph3x> oh he went online, i check it out now
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#975 [05:28] <aph3x> ok, he is just falling into the nothing now
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#977 [05:28] <aph3x> and my file is still corrupted
#978 [05:28] <aph3x> i think i have to delete :>
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#982 [05:30] <aph3x> too bad,m but thanks for you opinion
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#984 [05:50] <Wizardaus> I have a simple question about MineCraft
#985 [05:51] <lemon-rev> yes
#986 [05:51] <Wizardaus> What does the Seed for New World Generator do???
#987 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> It gives the map generator a starting point.
#988 [05:51] <lemon-rev> if you put in a number in the seed part, you can regenerate roughly that same world on others or the same world again if that world gets currupted
#989 [05:51] <DeeWoo> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Random_seed
#990 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> Not roughly, the same
#991 [05:52] <lemon-rev> hm
#992 [05:52] <lemon-rev> i wount say it does, it correctly unless you have tested it completely
#993 [05:52] <Wizardaus> thankyou all thats what I need.... Happy Crafting
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#1009 [06:52] <adamkex> how does the minecraft server work concerning time? i have my server on 24/7 yet my crops are not growing over night (real life time night), does the time freeze if nobody is logged on?
#1010 [06:59] <BarryCarlyon> Time freezes for unloaded chunks.
#1011 [06:59] <BarryCarlyon> The spawn region is generally always loaded.
#1012 [06:59] <BarryCarlyon> Otherwise server would need to hold the entire world in memory all the time....
#1013 [07:07] <adamkex> BarryCarlyon: so the crops have to be watched?
#1014 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes adamkex
#1015 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> You need to be near the chunk for it to be loaded into memory, it'll only grow if the chunk is loaded
#1016 [07:11] <adamkex> oh okay
#1017 [07:11] <adamkex> thanks
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#1022 [07:35] <nevercast> OMG
#1023 [07:35] <nevercast> Is it okay to say I still get scared out of my skin playing Minecraft?
#1024 [07:37] <nevercast> lemon-rev: I'd say it's exactly the same
#1025 [07:37] <nevercast> lemon-rev: After all, It's a seed!
#1026 [07:37] <nevercast> Plant an apple seed, You wont grow lemons.
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#1028 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I still get scared on minecraft
#1029 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> My complex is lighted with torches EVERYWHERE, and yet I still get the occasional zombie or creeper roaming around
#1030 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> Freaks me out
#1031 [07:39] <JoachimV_Lunch> Got some holes somewhere or what?
#1032 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> No, I've been over my complex several times, doubled and tripled up on torches
#1033 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> and I'll still get the occasional creeper that says HI
#1034 [07:40] <JoachimV_Lunch> Creepers... Minecraft's ninjas.
#1035 [07:41] <JoachimV_Lunch> I personally think they're just misunderstood
#1036 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, misunderstood
#1037 [07:41] <JoachimV_Lunch> They just want to be friendssssssssssssssssssss.....
#1038 [07:41] <nevercast> Haha they just want hugs!
#1039 [07:42] <nevercast> http://minecraftgallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/creeper.jpg
#1040 [07:42] <nevercast> That's moi Wall paper <3
#1041 [07:42] <JoachimV_Lunch> Kinda cute actually
#1042 [07:42] <JoachimV_Lunch> Also: Why wont they /nick command work?
#1043 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> You in any channels that are +M?
#1044 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> If you are, /part them, then /nick
#1045 [07:43] <nevercast> My mine was going so good
#1046 [07:43] <nevercast> I had lots of iron
#1047 [07:43] <nevercast> and gold
#1048 [07:43] <nevercast> and then I died.. damn zombie!
#1049 [07:43] <nevercast> I almost got killed by lava, escaped, then got zombie fucked!
#1050 [07:43] <JoachimV_Lunch> I shouldn't be.... in the exact same channels as i were when i changed it when i went on lunch. Also, build crates in long mineshafts
#1051 [07:43] <nevercast> I miss my /butcher command :D
#1052 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> JoachimV_Lunch - You're on #minecraft
#1053 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> It's +M, /part it
#1054 [07:44] <JoachimV> Wierd....
#1055 [07:44] <JoachimV> I was there earlier. it worked then.
#1056 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> An op might've set it then
#1057 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> You can rejoin #minecraft now
#1058 [07:45] <JoachimV> Also, anyone know how much powered minecarts i'd need to send a passenger up a 1:1 slope?
#1059 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Oof, couldn't tell ya, experimenting with powered minecarts myself right now
#1060 [07:46] <JoachimV> I tried 3, that worked for the first 4 or so blocks...
#1061 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> I believe the wiki said 1:3 slopes work best with powered minecarts
#1062 [07:47] * GreyVulpine looks that up again
#1062 [07:47] <JoachimV> Then a creeper came out of a unlit sidepassage and blew me up...
#1063 [07:47] * GreyVulpine snerks
#1063 [07:47] * JoachimV needs to close those damn things up
#1063 [07:47] <nevercast> JoachimV: Don't use power minecarts :D
#1064 [07:48] <nevercast> JoachimV: Use a booster
#1065 [07:48] <nevercast> JoachimV: A correctly designed booster can send a cart over 300 blocks of track
#1066 [07:48] <JoachimV> Too lazy for boosters.... plus I don't have the space really.
#1067 [07:48] <nevercast> Got space for a launcher?
#1068 [07:49] <nevercast> ( Looped booster with Redstone track switching for release )
#1069 [07:49] <JoachimV> .... That.... might just be possible..
#1070 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> Arg, I hate how redstone likes to glitch out every so often in 1.3
#1071 [07:50] <JoachimV> I'd have to look at it when I get home... stoopid corporate firewalls.
#1072 [07:51] <Astralysis> http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=292
#1073 [07:52] <nevercast> GreyVulpine: It's been doing all sorts of random BULLSHIT.. Such as burning out on very slow circuits
#1074 [07:52] <nevercast> GreyVulpine: Or just not working at all until reset
#1075 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1076 [07:54] <JoachimV> Never had a problem with my redstone actually...
#1077 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> I've been having problems with redstone since 1.3, people have come on here with the same problem..
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#1079 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Server reset usually fixes it for a length of time, before it wigs out again
#1080 [07:56] <JoachimV> Also Astralysis: http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcz20vZjiq1qzmgzco1_500.jpg
#1081 [07:57] <Astralysis> JoachimV, >_>
#1082 [07:57] <JoachimV> What?
#1083 [07:57] <JoachimV> I just love seeing that creeper smile :D
#1084 [07:57] <Astralysis> D:
#1085 [08:00] <nevercast> JoachimV: :D
#1086 [08:02] <JoachimV> Also, the following image haunts me at night http://minecraftgallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/minecraft_by_brotherostavia-723x1024.jpg
#1087 [08:03] <nevercast> http://www.deviantart.com/download/198746053/minecraft_creeper_meme_by_metropalis-d3abtfp.jpg
#1088 [08:03] <nevercast> MY WHOLE HOUSE :(
#1089 [08:03] <Astralysis> http://memegenerator.net/Minecraft-Creeper/ImageMacro/4813670/WHY-THE-HELL-AM-I-SMILING-SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
#1090 [08:03] <Astralysis> :o
#1091 [08:04] <ItsCriminal> my console gets flooded with Can't keep up,.... every 10seconds
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#1093 [08:04] * JoachimV shakes fist in anger.
#1093 [08:04] <JoachimV> Dang creepers! Get off my lawn!
#1094 [08:05] <ItsCriminal> server has 4gb ram and just two players online
#1095 [08:07] <JoachimV> Hmmm..... Does anyone know why my redstone repeaters arn't working anymore?
#1096 [08:09] <nevercast> JoachimV: We've already established this
#1097 [08:09] <nevercast> JoachimV: 1.3 has Redstone bugs lol.
#1098 [08:10] <nevercast> 2.11am
#1099 [08:11] <nevercast> I'ma have an early night
#1100 [08:11] <nevercast> pz out :)
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#1102 [08:15] <JoachimV> No greater distance then 15 blocks between all of the wire.... and the power just suddenly doesn't go through a repeater anymore...
#1103 [08:16] <JoachimV> Is there a limit to the number on one circuit?
#1104 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1105 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Try a server reset
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#1112 [08:46] <ItsCriminal> how long does it take to get the verfication that your account is ready to use?
#1113 [08:48] <fogWraith> Minute to several minutes
#1114 [08:48] <fogWraith> If unlucky hour+
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#1118 [08:54] <ItsCriminal> he is waiting now a whole day fogWraith
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#1120 [08:58] <BamnAngel> um
#1121 [08:58] <BamnAngel> hello?
#1122 [08:58] <JoachimV> Hi!
#1123 [08:58] <BamnAngel> i was wondering
#1124 [08:58] <JoachimV> The meaning of life? Yeah.. we all are.
#1125 [08:58] <BamnAngel> if theres anyone here who could help me out with a java error issue im having over minecraft multiplayer
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#1127 [08:58] <JoachimV> What's the message?
#1128 [08:59] <BamnAngel> java.net.SocketException : software caused connection abort :recv failure?
#1129 [09:00] <BamnAngel> i just recently purchased minecraft over paypal
#1130 [09:00] <BamnAngel> and the logging in to browser works fine
#1131 [09:00] <BamnAngel> but when i tried connecting to a friend's server
#1132 [09:00] <BamnAngel> i get that error
#1133 [09:00] <JoachimV> It means that the server is closing the connection sooner then it should.
#1134 [09:01] <BamnAngel> so what does that mean?
#1135 [09:01] <BamnAngel> the server is rejecting my ip?
#1136 [09:01] <JoachimV> Propably that you are bouncing off of his firewall
#1137 [09:01] <BamnAngel> so that would be on his end?
#1138 [09:01] <JoachimV> Need to make sure that the port is open (25565)
#1139 [09:01] <BamnAngel> the issue
#1140 [09:01] <JoachimV> Yeah
#1141 [09:02] <BamnAngel> oh...so its a port forwarding issue?
#1142 [09:02] <JoachimV> It might be, can't say for certain.
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#1144 [09:03] <JoachimV> What's the server IP?
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#1146 [09:04] <BamnAngel> 59.167.191.251
#1147 [09:05] <JoachimV> Hmm, should be open
#1148 [09:06] <BamnAngel> yeah according to him
#1149 [09:06] <JoachimV> You are putting 59.167.191.251:25565 into the connection field right?
#1150 [09:06] <BamnAngel> mm
#1151 [09:06] <BamnAngel> wait...
#1152 [09:06] <BamnAngel> if MY router isnt set for port forwarding
#1153 [09:06] <BamnAngel> could that be a possible cause?
#1154 [09:07] <BamnAngel> o.0
#1155 [09:07] <JoachimV> No
#1156 [09:07] <JoachimV> Well, it shouldnt be
#1157 [09:13] <BamnAngel> well in any case
#1158 [09:13] <BamnAngel> thx so much for the help
#1159 [09:13] <BamnAngel> lol
#1160 [09:13] <JoachimV> It's woorking?
#1161 [09:13] <BamnAngel> think ill try and delete the minecraft folder in local Roaming
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#1163 [09:14] <BamnAngel> and reupdate the whole thing
#1164 [09:15] <BamnAngel> no luck
#1165 [09:15] <BamnAngel> :/
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#1170 [09:27] <Omri100> hello
#1171 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1172 [09:27] <Omri100> !isdown
#1173 [09:28] <Omri100> nvm
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#1175 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.net is up
#1176 [09:28] <Omri100> i have a problem that isn't connected to this
#1177 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Shoot.
#1178 [09:29] <Omri100> since i bought the game i cant go in minecraft site or MP servers
#1179 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#1180 [09:29] <BamnAngel> same
#1181 [09:29] <BamnAngel> o.o
#1182 [09:29] <BamnAngel> im ahving that error now
#1183 [09:29] <BamnAngel> having*
#1184 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#1185 [09:29] <JoachimV> java.net.SocketException : software caused connection abort :recv failure?
#1186 [09:29] <Omri100> not the Java problem
#1187 [09:30] <BamnAngel> YES
#1188 [09:30] <BamnAngel> oh srry
#1189 [09:30] <Omri100> i have another thing
#1190 [09:30] <BamnAngel> um joa
#1191 [09:30] <BamnAngel> my friend did my error report
#1192 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> JoachimV - Usually is caused by a recieve buffer overflow
#1193 [09:30] <BamnAngel> on pastebin
#1194 [09:30] <BamnAngel> would it help if i paste it here
#1195 [09:30] <BamnAngel> ?
#1196 [09:30] <Omri100> Oops! Internet Explorer could not connect to www.minecraft.net
#1197 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Please give us the link to the pastebin
#1198 [09:30] <BamnAngel> ok
#1199 [09:30] <Omri100> and its like it eversince i bought it
#1200 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Omri100 - Can you do a "ping minecraft.net", and tell me the ip address it resolves to?
#1201 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Via your command prompt
#1202 [09:31] <BamnAngel> here is my error report
#1203 [09:31] <BamnAngel> http://pastebin.com/WfVw1tbx
#1204 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> At first glance, looks like the server's NIC took a dump and disconnected the player
#1205 [09:32] <Omri100> 50.16.203.217
#1206 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Omri100 - Hmm, can you connect via http://50.16.203.217 ?
#1207 [09:33] <BamnAngel> so do you think this is a server-side problem?
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#1209 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> I do BamnAngel.
#1210 [09:33] <Omri100> Oops! Internet Explorer could not connect to www.minecraft.net again
#1211 [09:33] <BamnAngel> oh dear
#1212 [09:33] <BamnAngel> lol
#1213 [09:34] * Omri100 is angry on minecraft
#1213 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Omri100 - Did you try connecting with http://50.16.203.217 ?
#1214 [09:35] <Omri100> yes and again same result
#1215 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1216 [09:36] <BamnAngel> ppl over at his country
#1217 [09:36] <BamnAngel> could log in fine
#1218 [09:36] <BamnAngel> so right now im wondering
#1219 [09:36] <BamnAngel> does my isp have anything to do with this issue
#1220 [09:36] <BamnAngel> lol
#1221 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Try an update of your NIC drivers BamnAngel
#1222 [09:37] <Omri100> anymore ideas i can try?
#1223 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Omri100 - Is IE the only browser you've tried?
#1224 [09:37] <Tanjoodo> Mineshaft is having lots of ups and downs ATM
#1225 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried clearing your browser's cache?
#1226 [09:37] <Tanjoodo> Minecraft*
#1227 [09:37] * Tanjoodo shakes fist at autocorrect
#1227 [09:38] <Omri100> Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.minecraft.net... Does this anser you question?
#1228 [09:38] <Tanjoodo> !isdown www.minecraft.net
#1229 [09:38] <GreyBot> Tanjoodo: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1230 [09:39] <Tanjoodo> It's up.
#1231 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1232 [09:39] <BamnAngel> NIC drivers?
#1233 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> network card drivers BamnAngel
#1234 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Omri100 - You're on windows, right?
#1235 [09:39] <Omri100> yes
#1236 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Omri100 - Could you go to here, via your run command:
#1237 [09:39] <BamnAngel> ohh i see
#1238 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\
#1239 [09:39] <BamnAngel> yes i will try that thx
#1240 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Look for the HOSTS file, and pastebin me the contents of that?
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#1242 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> use www.pastebin.com to paste the contents of that, then give me the link to it here.
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#1245 [09:43] <Omri100> HOSTS in big letters?
#1246 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> whichever, hosts, HOSTS, depends on the OS
#1247 [09:44] <Tanjoodo> Choose open with Notepad
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#1249 [09:45] <Tanjoodo> The hosts file usually doesnt have an extension
#1250 [09:45] <Tanjoodo> Doesn't*
#1251 [09:45] * Tanjoodo even corrects apostrophes
#1251 [09:46] <Omri100> thts wired i cant copy anything there and when i close it i leads me to Masseffect 2 game fo all the lols
#1252 [09:47] <ArmEagle> hmm, i've looked into a (unpacked) player.dat file. But it doesn't seem to show whether a player is online or not?
#1253 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Omri100 - ?
#1254 [09:48] <Omri100> yes?
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#1256 [09:48] <Omri100> i cant copy it into anywhere
#1257 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> You weren't able to copy out of it?
#1258 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Did you open it via notepad?
#1259 [09:49] <Omri100> yes
#1260 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Erm..
#1261 [09:51] <Omri100> http://pastebin.com/qCQfTdqn
#1262 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Well, there's your problem
#1263 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Last line: #MineCraftHelp
#1264 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1 www.minecraft.net
#1265 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> er
#1266 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#1267 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> www.minecraft.net is pointing back to your own computer, delete that line, resave the hosts file, and you'll be able to connect to the website again
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#1269 [09:53] <Tanjoodo> Lol who would do that?
#1270 [09:53] <Tanjoodo> Add the line?
#1271 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> (indicative of some.. *cough* "copies" of minecraft)
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#1273 [09:54] * Tanjoodo glares at Omri100
#1273 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> Really, I don't even worry about it anymore, we've seen tons of peope come through here with the same problem
#1274 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> If they feel minecraft is worth buying, and then get problems because they "tested" it out before hand, whatever..
#1275 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> I'll show them how to reverse it, but I don't judge.
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#1277 [09:55] <Tanjoodo> Here is the thing, I'm still "testing" the game as well *wink wink*
#1278 [09:56] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#1278 [09:57] <Tanjoodo> Lol
#1279 [09:57] <Tanjoodo> Planning on buying it soon
#1280 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Good to hear.
#1281 [09:58] * Tanjoodo hates piracy
#1281 [09:58] * Mash doesn't.
#1281 [09:58] * Tanjoodo hates cheap people with no demos more
#1281 [09:58] * Mash pirates lots of overpriced shit. But MC was worth the $23.
#1281 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't deserve to be pirated.
#1282 [09:59] <Mash> Indies need the support imo
#1283 [09:59] <Tanjoodo> There are a lot of awesome stuff instead of piracy
#1284 [09:59] <Tanjoodo> Like opensource
#1285 [09:59] <Tanjoodo> And www.dreamspark.com
#1286 [09:59] <Mash> No great games are opensource.
#1287 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, looks like Omri was pirating a game by ubisoft as well
#1288 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1 ubisoft-orbit.s3.amazonaws.com
#1289 [10:00] * GreyVulpine wonders what that could've been
#1289 [10:00] <Tanjoodo> Mash: Correct :/
#1290 [10:00] <Mash> Erm, that almost looks like Conviction.
#1291 [10:01] <Mash> Which I bought, because despite Ubi being all anti-pirate, the Splinter Cell games are fucking amazing games, have bought all of them.
#1292 [10:01] * Tanjoodo will wait for the stable minecraft before he buys
#1292 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> that might be a while...
#1293 [10:01] <Mash> Then don't play the beta.
#1294 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> And if you wait for the final release, the price will just go up
#1295 [10:02] <Mash> If you have no intention on buying what you're playing- And you just said you hate piracy.. Wait for a stable release before playing it too.
#1296 [10:02] <Tanjoodo> Mash: I am a "beta tester"
#1297 [10:02] <Mash> Tenjoodo, also, MC's pretty stable at this point anyway.
#1298 [10:03] <Mash> Were you contacted by Mojang AB specifically to test their product?
#1299 [10:03] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#1299 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> No, Tanjoodo just is making a play on the words, "beta" and "tester"
#1300 [10:03] <Tanjoodo> Mash: No :3
#1301 [10:03] <Mash> Otherwise you're just making excuses to continue pirating the game. ^^;
#1302 [10:04] <Tanjoodo> I'm just fooling around
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#1304 [10:04] <Mash> Oh, good.
#1305 [10:04] <Mash> So.. !paid Tanjoodo will come back positive in a few days then?
#1306 [10:04] <Mash> !paid Tanjoodo
#1307 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> Just don't advertise that fact here, other ops don't take too kindly to hearing somebody here's still pirating minecraft.
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#1309 [10:05] <Tanjoodo> Not a few days
#1310 [10:05] <Tanjoodo> As I said I'll wait for the stable
#1311 [10:05] <Mash> GreyVulpine, not only ops man, pretty much everyone here is pretty hard against pirating it after a day or two single-player.
#1312 [10:05] <Tanjoodo> Consider me dumb
#1313 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> I mean, other ops will kickban on sight.
#1314 [10:05] <Mash> Oh
#1315 [10:05] <LargePrime> hello
#1316 [10:05] <Mash> Yeah, I <3 xales for that.
#1317 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1318 [10:06] <LargePrime> I have a question about glass
#1319 [10:06] <LargePrime> per http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Glass
#1320 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> I just won't offer support for people who's pirated minecraft.
#1321 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> LargePrime - Shoot.
#1322 [10:06] <LargePrime> Glass placed next to water running downwards will make the water run more quickly and violently; this can be useful in making traps.
#1323 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> Oh? I haven't heard that..
#1324 [10:06] <LargePrime> I would like to build a simple example to demonstrate this
#1325 [10:06] <LargePrime> oh
#1326 [10:07] <Tanjoodo> I'll stop playing minecraft until I buy it
#1327 [10:07] <LargePrime> I don't know it is always true
#1328 [10:08] <Mash> Tanjoodo; As I said above, MC's already at a pretty stable state. Crashes are rare, there aren't many bugs left that aren't at least semi-intentional and multiplayer servers are sprouting up like potfarms in Mendocino.
#1329 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> I don't know LargePrime - I haven't heard anything about glass making water flow faster..
#1330 [10:08] * GreyVulpine will have to test that, one sec
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#1331 [10:10] <LargePrime> thanks
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#1334 [10:19] <LargePrime> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoPA6xHYny4&feature=player_embedded
#1335 [10:19] <LargePrime> seems this video confirms
#1336 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, guess you're right
#1337 [10:23] <LargePrime> 1:47
#1338 [10:23] <LargePrime> but
#1339 [10:24] <LargePrime> it seems you do not fall faster in water with glass
#1340 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1341 [10:24] <LargePrime> you just cannot raise as fast
#1342 [10:25] <LargePrime> you agree?
#1343 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> I'm still doing a test here, and both dirt and glass give me the same rise rate
#1344 [10:25] <LargePrime> how many blocks
#1345 [10:26] <LargePrime> deep
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#1347 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> 6-7 blocks deep
#1348 [10:26] <mib_36vcv7> hello?
#1349 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1350 [10:26] <mib_36vcv7> my minecraft wont start
#1351 [10:26] <mib_36vcv7> i hate it
#1352 [10:26] <LargePrime> congratulations
#1353 [10:26] <mib_36vcv7> ?
#1354 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Okay.. what happens when you try?
#1355 [10:27] <mib_36vcv7> when i launc it iether in launcher or browser i get to the mojang screen and then it goes black
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#1357 [10:27] <LargePrime> texture install?
#1358 [10:27] <LargePrime> or mod
#1359 [10:28] <mib_36vcv7> no mods but i have some textures
#1360 [10:28] <LargePrime> just suggesting Grey is the man
#1361 [10:28] <mib_36vcv7> i added a hd texture a while ago and thats when it seemed to stop working
#1362 [10:28] <LargePrime> just suggesting... Grey is the man. HD textures?
#1363 [10:28] <LargePrime> did it ever work with it?
#1364 [10:28] <JoachimV> Don't those not work unless you hack the exe?
#1365 [10:28] <mib_36vcv7> no
#1366 [10:29] <JoachimV> So there's the problem
#1367 [10:29] <mib_36vcv7> but how do i uninstaqll them?
#1368 [10:29] <LargePrime> yep hack is needed. .jar hack tho
#1369 [10:29] <LargePrime> you should download this HD Texture. it comes with patch
#1370 [10:30] <mib_36vcv7> i have some file called custom texture
#1371 [10:30] <LargePrime> anyone got a link to bumpcraft?
#1372 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Actually, you know, I think there might be something to this, I just had to redesign the test a bit
#1373 [10:30] <JoachimV> http://www.modcon.be/community/showthread.php?t=12
#1374 [10:30] <LargePrime> should delete bin and redownload
#1375 [10:30] <LargePrime> awesome
#1376 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#1377 [10:30] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1378 [10:30] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1379 [10:30] * GreyVulpine points
#1379 [10:30] <LargePrime> sorry for budding it
#1380 [10:30] <LargePrime> awesome
#1381 [10:31] <mib_36vcv7> thx!
#1382 [10:31] <LargePrime> Grey, did you see the vid?
#1383 [10:31] <LargePrime> at 1:47
#1384 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I saw the vid.
#1385 [10:31] <mib_36vcv7> wait i remove the whole bin?
#1386 [10:31] <LargePrime> and you do not agree?
#1387 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes mib_36vcv7
#1388 [10:31] <mib_36vcv7> ok thx
#1389 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> LargePrime - I just had to do the experiment on my own, that vid didn't really clearly show any result
#1390 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> I've got a column of water encased in glass, 7 blocks high, and one in dirt.
#1391 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> I can start from the top, let the current drag me down, and the instant I hit bottom, go back up with 2 bubbles of air left
#1392 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> The same experiment, with the dirt tower, gives me 5.
#1393 [10:33] <LargePrime> So slower accent, as you use more bubbles
#1394 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#1395 [10:34] <LargePrime> but not faster dropping
#1396 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Nope
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#1399 [10:36] <LargePrime> can spiders climb a single block wide?
#1400 [10:36] <LargePrime> a 1x1 block tower
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#1402 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't tell ya, spiders have been the bane of my existence since the start of minecraft
#1403 [10:37] <LargePrime> lol
#1404 [10:37] <BamnAngel> rawr
#1405 [10:37] <LargePrime> and BAMN, there was an Angel
#1406 [10:37] <BamnAngel> LOL
#1407 [10:37] <BamnAngel> where???
#1408 [10:37] <JoachimV> I've seen spiders climb a 4block high structure...
#1409 [10:37] * LargePrime points
#1409 [10:38] <LargePrime> but can they do it to a one block colum?
#1410 [10:38] <BamnAngel> *gasp*. *He gasp, gaspingly*
#1411 [10:38] <LargePrime> or do they need 2 blocks to climp
#1412 [10:39] <BamnAngel> btw joa, i seem to be disconnecting the same way on other servers
#1413 [10:39] <LargePrime> inquiring minds want to know
#1414 [10:39] <LargePrime> or i do
#1415 [10:39] <BamnAngel> even after the nic update
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#1417 [10:41] <LargePrime> is there something like inv edit that works in game while you are building?
#1418 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> For.. SP?
#1419 [10:42] <JoachimV> uhm... don't think so.
#1420 [10:42] <LargePrime> yes sp
#1421 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> There is, but it involves installing a mod or two
#1422 [10:43] <LargePrime> have not gathered courage to do more than solo
#1423 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=100267
#1424 [10:43] <LargePrime> do tell
#1425 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> "Single Player Commands" will do it
#1426 [10:46] <LargePrime> I thank you
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#1428 [10:49] <LargePrime> uh oh, jar mangeling
#1429 [10:50] <LargePrime> mangling
#1430 [10:50] * JoachimV mangles jar of marmalade.
#1430 [10:50] <JoachimV> Hmmmm marmalade...
#1431 [10:50] <LargePrime> tasty!
#1432 [10:51] <LargePrime> do you play a horn?
#1433 [10:51] <JoachimV> Horn? No, why?
#1434 [10:51] <LargePrime> Joachim? did not this one bring down walls
#1435 [10:51] <LargePrime> march around and blow horn?
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#1438 [10:53] <JoachimV> Uhm?
#1439 [10:53] <mib_mm3ju1> when i connect to a server, it says: connection timed out:connect
#1440 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Then, most likely, that server is down
#1441 [10:54] <mib_mm3ju1> no it´s online
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#1443 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> You sure about that?
#1444 [10:55] <mib_mm3ju1> yes
#1445 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Server ip?
#1446 [10:55] <JoachimV> also, Largeprime. I think you're thinking of Joshua
#1447 [10:55] <mib_mm3ju1> it´s a hamachi server
#1448 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then you need to join the hamachi group in which that server lies
#1449 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise you won't be able to see that server
#1450 [10:56] <mib_mm3ju1> i am in hamachi, i typed in the right ip in minecraft but it doesn´t work
#1451 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Did you join the private hamachi network?
#1452 [10:56] <mib_mm3ju1> yes
#1453 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> I mean, did you put in the group name and password to join?
#1454 [10:57] <mib_mm3ju1> no, i only need the ip
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#1456 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Wrong
#1457 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> You also need to join the hamachi VPN group in which that server is hosted on
#1458 [10:57] <cornelius> Quick question.
#1459 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Quick answer.
#1460 [10:57] <cornelius> Since Minecraft.net is down suposedly
#1461 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#1462 [10:57] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1463 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1464 [10:58] <cornelius> Really?
#1465 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> Really
#1466 [10:58] <mib_mm3ju1> but when i start minecraft, im in the main menu and click on multiplayer theres just a field to type in the ip
#1467 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_mm3ju1 - This isn't a problem with minecraft. You need to join the hamachi network.
#1468 [10:58] <JoachimV> Thats.... normal.
#1469 [10:58] <JoachimV> What else would there be?
#1470 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> You need to put in a hamachi network name and password to join the hamachi VPN, where the server is located in
#1471 [10:59] <cornelius> When I login "Cannot connect to minecraft.net.
#1472 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> cornelius - Um, hmm
#1473 [10:59] * GreyVulpine tries logging out, and back in
#1473 [10:59] <cornelius> When I push play offline it says it give me some kind of error code.
#1474 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> What error code?
#1475 [11:00] <cornelius> Shall I copy the whole thing for you?
#1476 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> And nope, the login server is up for me
#1477 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com it if it's long please
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#1480 [11:01] <cornelius> http://pastebin.com/P8UQURhv
#1481 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see
#1482 [11:01] <mib_mm3ju1> jemand deutsch hier?
#1483 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> You're running windows, right cornelius?
#1484 [11:01] <cornelius> Yeah w7 x86
#1485 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username contain any non-standard characters, specifically an exclaimation point?
#1486 [11:02] <cornelius> Harhar
#1487 [11:02] <cornelius> yeah
#1488 [11:02] <cornelius> it does
#1489 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> That would do it
#1490 [11:02] <cornelius> :( okay
#1491 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> Try making a new windows user account, without an (!) sign
#1492 [11:02] <cornelius> So I should change it
#1493 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> Then relaunch minecraft on it
#1494 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> Unforunately, just renaming the windows account you have now, won't fix it
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#1496 [11:03] <cornelius> Really?!
#1497 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> It's a limitation of windows, even renaming the windows user account, won't rename the user's folder
#1498 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> It'll still contain that (!) in the user's appdata folder
#1499 [11:03] <GreyVulpine> causing problems
#1500 [11:03] <cornelius> ugh
#1501 [11:04] <gazpacho86> sup
#1502 [11:04] <gazpacho86> what was included in the previous friday update?
#1503 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> previous friday update?
#1504 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe there was an update back then
#1505 [11:05] <gazpacho86> yea, wasn't there a secret update or something?
#1506 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. no?
#1507 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> 1.3_01 was released on Feb 23rd
#1508 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> That's the latest version
#1509 [11:05] <gazpacho86> o
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#1514 [11:22] <LargePrime> Thanks again GreyVulpine
#1515 [11:22] <LargePrime> ttfn
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#1518 [11:31] <JoachimV> ok....
#1519 [11:32] <JoachimV> You guys know those ads for the browser game Evony?
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#1539 [12:15] <beniejvd> hey guys cant login in on my old accaunt still witing for my new accaunt but i also can login whit my friends acc :S on minecraft.net it says Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password. and on beta laucnh it says login failed :S
#1540 [12:15] <beniejvd> waiting*
#1541 [12:16] <beniejvd> whoops i mean i cant login in to my friends acc :3
#1542 [12:16] <xales> if it says the username and password are wrong...then they are wrong
#1543 [12:16] <beniejvd> they arenbt
#1544 [12:16] <beniejvd> cuz my friend
#1545 [12:16] <beniejvd> logs in
#1546 [12:16] <beniejvd> whit the same
#1547 [12:16] <beniejvd> user name and password
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#1549 [12:17] <beniejvd> im raging over here :S
#1550 [12:17] <xales> well, it's wrong then
#1551 [12:18] <beniejvd> u mean password or username or mc.net ?
#1552 [12:18] <xales> yes
#1553 [12:18] <xales> password and/or username
#1554 [12:18] <beniejvd> but
#1555 [12:18] <beniejvd> my friend log's in
#1556 [12:18] <beniejvd> whit the same username and password
#1557 [12:18] <beniejvd> we are sharing
#1558 [12:19] <xales> if it says the username or password is wrong
#1559 [12:19] <xales> then it is wrong
#1560 [12:20] <beniejvd> but how can my friend login
#1561 [12:20] <beniejvd> whit the same username and password :3
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#1563 [12:20] <Enrii_Lindebaum> How do I run minecraft server with this java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar?
#1564 [12:20] <beniejvd> btw on the minecraft laucnher it only says login failed on mc.net its says username and or password wrong
#1565 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Enrii_Lindebaum - In a command prompt/terminal/batch file/ or shell script
#1566 [12:21] <xales> bildramer: it means the same thing
#1567 [12:21] <xales> err
#1568 [12:21] <xales> beniejvd: means the same thing
#1569 [12:21] <beniejvd> ok
#1570 [12:21] <Enrii_Lindebaum> none of that makes any sense, explain for a newb please
#1571 [12:21] <beniejvd> go to run
#1572 [12:21] <beniejvd> and paste it in there
#1573 [12:21] <Enrii_Lindebaum> nothing happened
#1574 [12:21] <bildramer> yay tab-completion
#1575 [12:22] <Enrii_Lindebaum> must I imput full path to server?
#1576 [12:22] <beniejvd> i dunno
#1577 [12:22] <Enrii_Lindebaum> I'll try
#1578 [12:22] <xales> Enrii_Lindebaum: you have to run it in the same folder that minecraft_server.jar is
#1579 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> Enrii_Lindebaum - If you're running the command that's not in the same directory as the server, yes.
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#1582 [12:24] <Enrii_Lindebaum> :(
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#1584 [12:24] <Enrii_Lindebaum> I tried with full path
#1585 [12:24] <Enrii_Lindebaum> It booted up something and then closed
#1586 [12:25] <DopeGhoti> Enrii_Lindebaum: run it at the command prompt.
#1587 [12:25] <beniejvd> whyyou acctualy wanna run it that way ?
#1588 [12:25] <Enrii_Lindebaum> I want more ram allocated to server
#1589 [12:25] <KentBallz> question today when I try logging into my server game it says failed to login: bad login
#1590 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> beniejvd: if your friend can log in on your 'shared' account, and you cannot, it simply means that the account is no longer 'shared', and you should man up and buy your own copy of the game.
#1591 [12:26] <xales> KentBallz: what is your username
#1592 [12:26] <KentBallz> KentBallz
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#1594 [12:27] <xales> KentBallz: close your client, reopen it
#1595 [12:28] <beniejvd> DopeGhoti cant i make it shared again ? and i did it 2 times dident got anything 1 time i did but also cant login in that 1 asswel cuz i aslo shared that one ....
#1596 [12:28] <KentBallz> good call ^^
#1597 [12:28] <Enrii_Lindebaum> ok cmd worked
#1598 [12:28] <Enrii_Lindebaum> thanks
#1599 [12:29] <DopeGhoti> beniejvd: beniejvd don't share accounts. Problem solved.
#1600 [12:29] <DopeGhoti> One person, one account. It's not that complex.
#1601 [12:30] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: If you give away your password, you have no standing to complain if you suddenly cannot log in to whatever that password used to work for.
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#1604 [12:32] <beniejvd> DopeGhoti it isent solved
#1605 [12:32] <beniejvd> but ok
#1606 [12:32] <beniejvd> nvm then
#1607 [12:33] <DopeGhoti> beniejvd: I have zero sympathy; you were either mooching off of someone else, or gave your account away.
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#1609 [12:34] <beniejvd> ok
#1610 [12:34] <DopeGhoti> Morning, WeirdMisty; how can #MineCraftHelp assist you this fine day?
#1611 [12:34] <WeirdMisty> I have what is maybe a noob question
#1612 [12:34] <DopeGhoti> I have answers and am willing to trade.
#1613 [12:35] <KentBallz> Hahaha don't worry in the less than 24 hours I've had this game I've had a dozen noob questions
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#1615 [12:35] <WeirdMisty> I am running a minecraft server from my computer that is currently attached to my router's IP address; in a couple of weeks I will be out of town and I am wondering how to change the IP of the server when I go away so it still runs on the other IP
#1616 [12:36] <DopeGhoti> WeirdMisty: Meaning the IP address of your internet connection changes?
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#1618 [12:36] <WeirdMisty> Well, it will change while I am out of town, because I am taking the computer that the server is on with me when I go
#1619 [12:37] <BaconFace> you could use a DNS
#1620 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> WeirdMisty: sign up with no-ip.org or dyndns.org for a dynamicly-assigned domain name and get the appropriate tool to keep the DNS record up-to-date
#1621 [12:37] <WeirdMisty> okay
#1622 [12:37] <WeirdMisty> thanks
#1623 [12:37] <DopeGhoti> cheers
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#1645 [13:30] <thereaper101> i need some help
#1646 [13:30] <thereaper101> my minecraft keeps dcing me over java script
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#1649 [13:32] <thereaper101> hello?
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#1653 [13:40] <espasmato> does anyone no of a good plugin that logs player actions?
#1654 [13:41] <CoLoN> ur brain :P
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#1656 [13:42] <thereaper101> hi can i get some help
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#1658 [13:43] <thereaper101> my minecraft keeps dcing me over java scrpt
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#1661 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget attention span.
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#1663 [13:45] <thereaper101> yo i keep getting dced over java scribt on minecraft
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#1669 [14:09] <Minni> All my firewalls and everything is turned off - my dobbel natted ports are open .. i had people on my server yesterday - now there is just no connection to my server :/ anyone for a helping hand? :)
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#1671 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Minni - Double check your port forwarding? Make sure nothing has changed since then?
#1672 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Also make sure your public IP is correct, and hasn't changed since then
#1673 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Also also, double-check your _internal_ IPs.
#1674 [14:11] <Minni> Yeah even trippel checked - and re did the port forwarding, my IP is the same .. and PFportChecker keeps saying my ports are closed.. where it yesterday said they ware open :/
#1675 [14:11] <Minni> oh internal IPs.. lemme get a look :)
#1676 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> That's half the fun of double-NAT: more IPs to check. Unless you're smart and use MAC-assigned static DHCP.
#1677 [14:13] <Minni> All my IP settings apper to be the same. no changes as far as i can see..
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#1680 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Walk us through your setup, starting with the ip address of the computer running the server?
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#1683 [14:16] <Minni> My ip is: 212.242.56.5 (from www.myip.dk) - my IPv4 Ethernet ip is 192.158.1.100.
#1684 [14:17] <Minni> Im port forwarding my WRT54GSv5.1 Linksys Router with port 255645 to 25565 using both TCP & UDP
#1685 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Router ip = ?
#1686 [14:17] <Minni> Allso my (ISP provided) ZyXEL Prestige 660R-61 is forwarded on the same ports
#1687 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> Minni: fill in the blanks: WAN IP:___.___.___.___; Outer router LAN IP: ___.___.___.___; Inner router WAN IP:___.___.___.___; PC LAN IP:___.___.___.___
#1688 [14:18] <JoachimV> Port 25565 is closed on 212.242.56.5
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#1691 [14:19] <Minni> Indeed - and ive disabled (and uninstalled) my Personal firewalls and my windows firewall (including Windows defender) ..
#1692 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Minni - Could you confirm that the router's internet ip is still 10.0.0.2?
#1693 [14:21] <Minni> WAN IP: 212.242.56.5 - Outer router LAN IP: 10.0.0.2 - Inner router WAN IP: (where do i find this ? ) - PC LAN IP:
#1694 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Inner router WAN IP = default gateway via ipconfig on your computer
#1695 [14:22] <Minni> 192.168.1.1
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#1697 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, are you able to connect with your own server in this order, 127.0.0.1, 192.168.1.100, 10.0.0.2, 212.242.56.5
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#1699 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Where along that chain, do you stop being able to connect to your server
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#1702 [14:25] <Minni> i'm able to join my own server useing localhost as my ip adress.
#1703 [14:26] <Minni> when trying to connect via 212.242.56.5 on my laptop (same local network) i however fail.
#1704 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Can you connect to 192.168.1.100 via your laptop?
#1705 [14:27] <Minni> Where yesterday i was left with a connection refused error - im today getting Timed out
#1706 [14:27] <zw> hi, trying to install a sql plugin
#1707 [14:28] <Minni> it got connectivity as i used 192.168.1.100 on the latop - just as it started downloading the world it went "Failed ot login: Bad login"
#1708 [14:28] <zw> but what to put in "driver: com.mysql.jdbc.Driver"
#1709 [14:28] <xales> zw: we don't provide support with mods, sorry
#1710 [14:29] <Minni> a quick restart of my MC launcher on the laptop gave me connection to my server using my LAN ip
#1711 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> ??>> zw mods
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#1713 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Okay.. then, Minni, can you connect via 10.0.0.2 via your laptop?
#1714 [14:31] <Minni> timed out on 10.0.0.2
#1715 [14:31] <xales> GreyVulpine: The router probably isn't going to forward traffic on the LAN interface
#1716 [14:31] <xales> only WAN
#1717 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> If it's configured right, it will
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#1719 [14:32] <xales> Mine doesn't
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#1721 [14:32] <Minni> my ISP provided ZyXEL router i only just got acess to yesterday (after a LONG talk with my ISP) where i then managed to open ports.. however any other setting i have yet to configure.
#1722 [14:32] <Sloth> Yo!
#1723 [14:33] <Sloth> am i the only one with severe delay on servers?
#1724 [14:33] <xales> yes
#1725 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> Sloth: define 'severe delay'.
#1726 [14:33] <Sloth> Well.
#1727 [14:33] <Sloth> each time i join a server,
#1728 [14:33] <Sloth> when 30 seconds past
#1729 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> (and please don't use the Enter key as a comma)
#1730 [14:33] <Sloth> it begins delaying, and makes it impossible to play
#1731 [14:33] <Sloth> :/
#1732 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> Does this happen on all servers, or just one or a subset?
#1733 [14:34] <Sloth> all servers.
#1734 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> Stop your porn torrents and try again?
#1735 [14:34] <xales> http://speedtest.net/
#1736 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1737 [14:34] <Sloth> I've tried on several Pc's and on several internets and locations.
#1738 [14:34] <Sloth> lol
#1739 [14:34] <Sloth> and i've tried to limit framerate and all different kinda settings,
#1740 [14:34] <xales> it's your Internet connection
#1741 [14:34] <xales> (very likely)
#1742 [14:34] <Sloth> What i haven't try is to do it on others accounts.
#1743 [14:34] <Sloth> no its not
#1744 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> And mods, texture packs, or the like?
#1745 [14:35] <Sloth> :/ i've tried at my friends house, and another one
#1746 [14:35] <Coll> he just said "I've tried on several Pc's and on several internets and locations." xales
#1747 [14:35] <Sloth> Both on the launcher and on the Browser
#1748 [14:35] <xales> Coll: so?
#1749 [14:35] <Sloth> Yes i've had a patched 64x64 but i reinstalled to vanilla to see if that fixed it
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#1751 [14:35] <xales> "I tried to drive three cars but none were faster than a jet"
#1752 [14:35] <xales> :P
#1753 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> What sort of PCs are you trying to play on?
#1754 [14:35] <Coll> so how can it be his internet. It looks more like his computer
#1755 [14:35] <xales> Sloth: do you also get the lag in single player?
#1756 [14:36] <Sloth> well, a Dv6 HP Laptop, a HP customized PC
#1757 [14:36] <Sloth> all these we're windows 7
#1758 [14:36] <Sloth> and at a dad's friend, he have windows XP.
#1759 [14:36] <Sloth> no, its only SMP
#1760 [14:36] <Sloth> :s
#1761 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> CPUs? GPUs? Amounts of RAM?
#1762 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Minni - Can you go to your ZyXel modem's setup/status page, and make sure the public ip there matches up with what you're getting
#1763 [14:37] <Sloth> 16 amounts of RAM at my friends, 4 RAM at my PC and 16 at my laptop, theres 2 CPU's the main and one i put innit.
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#1765 [14:37] <Joannis> hi
#1766 [14:37] <xales> hello
#1767 [14:37] <Sloth> I tried to disable 1 of them. but it didn't change anything.
#1768 [14:38] <xales> Sloth: if it's only SMP, then it is your Internet connection
#1769 [14:38] <Joannis> I've got a question about modding.
#1770 [14:38] <xales> or the server you are trying to connect to
#1771 [14:38] <xales> ??> Joannis mods
#1772 [14:38] <VoxelHead> Joannis: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1773 [14:38] <Sloth> It should not be. I've tried on different Internets.
#1774 [14:38] <VoxelHead> Joannis: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1775 [14:38] <Sloth> And MANY MANY Different servers.
#1776 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Sloth: your laptop has 16GiB of RAM?!
#1777 [14:38] <Joannis> ok
#1778 [14:38] <Joannis> thanks
#1779 [14:38] <xales> Sloth: it doesn't matter if they are different, if they are all too slow
#1780 [14:38] <Joannis> But
#1781 [14:38] <Sloth> Its very fast but.
#1782 [14:38] <Sloth> Let me recheck if that matters
#1783 [14:38] <Joannis> bukkit is a mod right?
#1784 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Joannis: Yes.
#1785 [14:38] <Joannis> I'm trying to make my own one :P
#1786 [14:39] <xales> #risucraft for that
#1787 [14:39] <Joannis> just to learn some more about programming
#1788 [14:39] <xales> like it said (:
#1789 [14:39] <Joannis> ok
#1790 [14:39] <Joannis> thanks
#1791 [14:39] <Joannis> #risucraft
#1792 [14:39] <Joannis> shit
#1793 [14:39] <Joannis> oop
#1794 [14:39] <Sloth> 10 M/bs and 30 m/bs ? im located in Denmark and all the servers i've tried we're all over the world, in SWEDEN in USA etc.
#1795 [14:39] <Joannis> s
#1796 [14:39] <Joannis> srry
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#1798 [14:39] <xales> Sloth: go to http://speedtest.net/ run the test, click "Direct link" and paste it here
#1799 [14:39] <Sloth> k
#1800 [14:39] <Sloth> sec
#1801 [14:40] <Sloth> Im home right now, but i've already tested all that. It shouldn't be a problem.
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#1803 [14:41] <reedlepee> Yo!
#1804 [14:41] <Sloth> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1191018508.png
#1805 [14:41] <reedlepee> Are the server down?
#1806 [14:41] <Sloth> There you go?
#1807 [14:41] <Sloth> it was.
#1808 [14:41] <Elvang> Anything special need to be done to run a minecraft server on a 64bit distro?
#1809 [14:41] <Sloth> well thanks for the help so far, i guess no one can help me :/
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#1811 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> 64bit distro of..
#1812 [14:42] <Elvang> CentOS
#1813 [14:42] <Minni> @GreyVulpine - i56.tinypic.com/fmqrlj.png
#1814 [14:42] <xales> reedlepee: I do not believe so
#1815 [14:43] <reedlepee> erf.... I can't connect to minecraft.net so...
#1816 [14:43] <Sloth> If it can help it does often say SOCKET ERROR or timed out.
#1817 [14:43] <Sloth> after some time that the delay have terrored my game :(
#1818 [14:44] <xales> reedlepee: can you play on http://minecraft.net/game/ ?
#1819 [14:44] <xales> Sloth: what error, specifically
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#1822 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: Other than Java? Not really
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#1824 [14:46] <Elvang> DopeGhoti: Any common sources of lag?
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#1826 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Minni - That.. looks right to me.
#1827 [14:47] <Minni> I was hopeing for a confirm on that - cus i see no conflicts or stuff like that either.
#1828 [14:47] <Minni> im puzzeled
#1829 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: Network throttling, CPU issues, and swapping are the most common.
#1830 [14:47] <Elvang> DopeGhoti: Swapping?
#1831 [14:48] <xales> DopeGhoti/GreyVulpine: AMD Opteron Sledgehammer = PoS y/n
#1832 [14:48] <IllDepence> Hi there, my laptop just powered down while playing (guess hdd got to hot). Now my save doesn't appear ingame anymore. Files are still there ... any advice?
#1833 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> Elvang: utilizing the swap partitions. Hard drives are slower than RAM, you see.
#1834 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Minni - Your server's IPv4 address still matching up with the port forward on the linksys router?
#1835 [14:48] <xales> IllDepence: open it in a map editor, and resave it
#1836 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> xales: sounds like overkill for a point-of-sale machine
#1837 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> I can recommend MCedit for saving maps that have been corrupted by an unexpected power shutoff
#1838 [14:48] <Elvang> DopeGhoti: Ah, k
#1839 [14:49] <Minni> @GreyVulpine 192.168.1.100 - Yes.
#1840 [14:49] <xales> DopeGhoti: you know what I meant ._.
#1841 [14:49] <IllDepence> thanks a lot, I'll give it a try : )
#1842 [14:49] <xales> PoS = point of sales also = piece of shit (point of sales systems tend to be, however)
#1843 [14:49] <xales> Elvang: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging
#1844 [14:50] <Elvang> Thanks, xales
#1845 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Minni - At this point, I don't honestly know. You could try removing all the port forwarding, and try setting it back up again
#1846 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Triple check all your security settings are right.
#1847 [14:53] <Minni> ill try resetting as much as i can then. i do however appriciate all your help GreyVulpine :) both for today and yesterday
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#1850 [15:02] <IllDepence> okay, I got MCEdit and opened my world ... how do I save it now? xD (I'm on Ubuntu) Is it "Export Schematic"?
#1851 [15:02] <xales> no
#1852 [15:02] <Morrolan> Nah, hit ctrl-s
#1853 [15:02] <xales> ^
#1854 [15:05] <IllDepence> okay, my spawnpoint moved, but everything else seems to be where it should be — thanks a lot for the fast help : )
#1855 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> You can edit the spawnpoint with MCedit as well, if you wish
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#1858 [15:09] <Zinko> evening!!!
#1859 [15:09] <xales> hi
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#1862 [15:10] <Zinko> can anyone help me with the permissions plugin for bukkit? -_- (guess im 2 stupid to use it)
#1863 [15:10] <oldtopman> !check 82.73.169.16:25565
#1864 [15:12] <Zinko> i want to give tp to all default players, so, shouldnt i jsut set it like:
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#1866 [15:12] <Zinko> permissions: - 'essentials.tp'
#1867 [15:12] <xales> Zinko: go to #permissions for that
#1868 [15:12] <Zinko> hmm, cheers
#1869 [15:12] <GN> so yeah, my friend can't connect to my server
#1870 [15:13] <xales> GN: what IP are they using, and what error do they get
#1871 [15:13] <GN> it's in online mode, and afaik it didn't fail to forward the port
#1872 [15:13] <GN> hm i'll check
#1873 [15:15] <GN> he gets the connection timed out error
#1874 [15:16] <xales> and what IP is he trying to connect with
#1875 [15:16] <GN> his ip, or mine?
#1876 [15:16] <GN> sorry i'm not too knowlegdeable in these things
#1877 [15:16] <Nappz> Why does every fricken clock generator I build stop ticking after a while... (and by awhile, I mean, many hours)
#1878 [15:17] <xales> GN: he tries to connect to your server
#1879 [15:17] <xales> he types an IP in the box
#1880 [15:17] <xales> what IP is he typing in
#1881 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Nappz - Redstone bug with 1.3, I've seen this as well
#1882 [15:17] <GN> 5.160.71.238
#1883 [15:17] <xales> that would be the problem then
#1884 [15:17] <xales> that is a Hamachi IP
#1885 [15:17] <xales> ??> GN fubar/hamachi
#1886 [15:17] <VoxelHead> GN: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internat. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1887 [15:17] <VoxelHead> GN: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1888 [15:18] <GN> well... where do i find the ip he's supposed to type in?
#1889 [15:18] <xales> you need to port forward
#1890 [15:18] <xales> then http://whatismyip.org/
#1891 [15:18] <xales> (if you are running a firewall, of any sort, disable it. uninstall it if possible, too)
#1892 [15:19] <xales> anyway, I have to go
#1893 [15:19] <xales> DopeGhoti can help though (:
#1894 [15:19] * xales goes
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#1895 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> GN: http://www.moanmyip.com
#1896 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> GN: once you have port forwarding set up, folks can use that IP to get to your server.
#1897 [15:21] <GN> ok, thanks
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#1901 [15:26] <Roll> http://minecolony.tk/ anyone know anything about this website/mod?
#1902 [15:31] <Morrolan> Roll: It's kinda neat if you ask me.
#1903 [15:32] <Roll> yeah but i cant get it to work xD
#1904 [15:32] <Roll> i'm trying something now tho
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#1906 [15:32] <Morrolan> I'm not sure if it's the official site though, since it's actually hosted on google sites: http://sites.google.com/site/minecolony/news
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#1909 [15:34] <incizion> hey guys i was wondering if anyone could help me with a server question its kind of odd
#1910 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#1911 [15:34] <Roll> woo it works
#1912 [15:34] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1913 [15:34] <Roll> ty :d
#1914 [15:34] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1915 [15:35] <Morrolan> Roll: Nice. :D
#1916 [15:35] <incizion> Im currently in afghanistan, myself and 3 of my soldiers have all purchased the game and have been playing endlessly. Recently all of us have wanted to set up an offline server because the internet is too slow to connect to an online server over here. Is it possible to have 4 offline accounts connect to a lan server at once?
#1917 [15:39] <Morrolan> incizion: You used to be able to change your name with a memory editor when connecting to a server in offline mode. I haven't tried that in a while though. I'll try to dig up the information.
#1918 [15:40] <incizion> id appreciate any help. So in offline mode thats the issue? ur names are all the same morrlan?
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#1920 [15:40] <Morrolan> Yes. When connecting to a server in offline mode everyone is named "player" by default I think. And since the server doesn't allow more than one player with the same name you get kicked out.
#1921 [15:41] <coz> hey all .. quick and easy help q .. actually a test
#1922 [15:42] <coz> can someone join 82.73.169.16 and tell me if my permissions to build work - aka you shouldn't be able to build / destroy ..
#1923 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> incizion: once all clients have connected at least once "online" (even single-player), they should be able to connect to a LAN server
#1924 [15:42] <incizion> yea everyone has connected once online dope
#1925 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> incizion: the clients still need to be "online" which is to say, logged in and verified at minecraft.net, but the traffic between the clients and server would all be local
#1926 [15:43] <incizion> thats the problem dope i cant get this network online
#1927 [15:43] <incizion> so we have one network for internet, and one for the lan
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#1929 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> incizion: I _think_ the new launcher preserves player names, so you could try putting the server into 'offline-mode'
#1930 [15:44] <coz> could you tunnel part of the traffic ?
#1931 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> and the players should still be able to connect.
#1932 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> (thank you for your service, by the way.)
#1933 [15:44] <incizion> i appreciate it dope and all the help
#1934 [15:45] * DopeGhoti is pleased to be able to assist.
#1934 [15:45] <coz> morrolan, thanks, but you lagged out it seemed
#1935 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> Indeed, jsut set "online-mode=false" in the server.properties file, and the players should be able to connect as long as they've been online once before
#1936 [15:46] <Morrolan> coz: Yeah, wasn't able to connect.
#1937 [15:47] <coz> i saw you in the console tho , and saw your head sticking out the ceiling ingame
#1938 [15:47] <incizion> thanks dope ur the man, i know the pc can run the server for 4 clients, but any old high bandwith router will do right?
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#1940 [15:48] <Morrolan> incizion: If it works this way it's great. If it doesn't you could try it like this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=27894&hilit=offline+mode#p504534
#1941 [15:48] <Morrolan> I have however no idea if this information is still up to date.
#1942 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> incizion: yeah, any relatively modern (e. g. 10/100) router should be okay
#1943 [15:48] <incizion> thanks for ur all ur help guys
#1944 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> My pleasure.
#1945 [15:49] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#1946 [15:49] <Morrolan> coz: Can't help you sorry, either you're just too far away, or something is blocking me from connecting to your server.
#1947 [15:50] <coz> might be the distance, @europe
#1948 [15:50] <coz> although my end of the line should have enough bandwith
#1949 [15:50] <coz> 100mbit heh
#1950 [15:50] <coz> 120 if i change my router
#1951 [15:50] <Morrolan> Well, I'm in europe as well, so might be something else. :/
#1952 [15:51] <coz> ah that worked better now it seems
#1953 [15:51] <Morrolan> still logging in for me.
#1954 [15:52] <coz> hmm .. i had someone connecting yesterday fine, the only difference today is i'm trying to get the server up through bukkit
#1955 [15:52] <Morrolan> Oh well, seems it doesn't want me to connect. ^^
#1956 [15:53] <Morrolan> Did someone else manage to connect today?
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#1958 [15:54] <Morrolan> Oh, worked now.
#1959 [15:54] <Morrolan> I guess because I forgot to put the port at the end. *shame*
#1960 [15:54] <coz> not counting myself no, but that was because he hit the whitelist in the regular serv which a. is turned back to whitelist off and b. i mistook for a build whitelist not 'connect' whitelist
#1961 [15:55] <coz> been asking for ppl to join for a bit but you were the first that tried i think, at least the first i saw in console
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#1963 [15:55] <maidx> hello, can anyone help me please? if i want to connect to any server, game write: disconnected by server failed to verify username. what can i do? sorry for my english :)
#1964 [15:55] <coz> restarted server in the meanwhile , maybe it just chrashed
#1965 [15:55] <Morrolan> Ok then, now I shouldn't be able to destroy or place blocks, right?
#1966 [15:55] <coz> true
#1967 [15:56] <Morrolan> works though
#1968 [15:56] <Morrolan> Well, with works I mean that I can destroy stuff.
#1969 [15:56] <coz> hmm
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#1971 [16:01] <aetherian> 'eya
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#1980 [16:09] <LlamaMan> Hey people
#1981 [16:11] <LlamaMan> Im looking for some multiplayer fun, how do i find games that people host? Im playing the paid, downloaded client version not the free browser version.
#1982 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1983 [16:11] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#1984 [16:11] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#1985 [16:12] <aetherian> llama llama there's a llama....
#1986 [16:12] <Morrolan> yeah, or use a serverlist, like, for example, mcserverlist.net
#1987 [16:12] <LlamaMan> Alright thanks, ill check it out
#1988 [16:12] <LlamaMan> @Aetherian: thats where i got my name from... :)
#1989 [16:13] <Morrolan> Whoa, I used four "," in a single sentence.
#1990 [16:13] * aetherian was just listening to that, by coincidence
#1990 [16:13] * Morrolan hides in a corner
#1990 [16:13] <aetherian> Morrolan: only?
#1991 [16:13] <aetherian> I'll use more at times...
#1992 [16:13] <Morrolan> Hehe, I already feel better then. :D
#1993 [16:13] <aetherian> but... normally I'll have a much bigger sentence
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#1995 [16:14] * aetherian is messing with VMs
#1995 [16:15] <JakX12321> anyone need any help with anything?
#1996 [16:15] * aetherian laughs
#1996 [16:15] <aetherian> JakX12321: no. just no.
#1997 [16:15] * JakX12321 mumbles under breath
#1997 [16:15] <aetherian> MUMBLER
#1998 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Sure, happen to have a cure for cancer yet?
#1999 [16:16] <JakX12321> yea...but it turns everyone into animals
#2000 [16:16] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: I found that yesterday, it's old news.
#2001 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
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#2003 [16:16] <LlamaMan> Hmm, i cant connect
#2004 [16:16] <JakX12321> apparently minecraft.net is down
#2005 [16:16] <aetherian> LlamaMan: call your vet then
#2006 [16:17] <JakX12321> according to aubot
#2007 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> !isdown minecraft.net
#2008 [16:17] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2009 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> No.. no it isn't
#2010 [16:17] <JakX12321> its working for me
#2011 [16:17] <LlamaMan> Its working for me as well?
#2012 [16:17] <LlamaMan> Meh
#2013 [16:18] <LlamaMan> Will minecraft ever get good multiplayer?
#2014 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> It already has good multiplayer..
#2015 [16:18] <JakX12321> once notch figures it out im sure it will
#2016 [16:18] <LlamaMan> Multiplayer is fun yeah
#2017 [16:18] <JakX12321> it needs work though
#2018 [16:18] <LlamaMan> But its laggy
#2019 [16:18] <LlamaMan> And a bit glitchy
#2020 [16:18] <JakX12321> a bit?
#2021 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Hey, at least redstone works now, and minecarts don't crash servers like in the beginning
#2022 [16:19] <LlamaMan> And its an adventure on its own just to find a way to connect
#2023 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> I'd call that progress
#2024 [16:19] <JakX12321> yea thats true.
#2025 [16:19] <JakX12321> he needs to add horses or something
#2026 [16:19] <LlamaMan> Why is he selling it so expensively if its not even past beta stage lol
#2027 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> ... expensive?
#2028 [16:20] <JakX12321> lol cause its awesome
#2029 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> It's 20 bucks
#2030 [16:20] <LlamaMan> Exactly
#2031 [16:20] <JakX12321> yea in alpha it was only 13
#2032 [16:20] <JakX12321> thats when i got it
#2033 [16:20] <LlamaMan> When i think "indie game" i think 10eruo minus
#2034 [16:20] <aetherian> yay alpha :D
#2035 [16:20] <aetherian> LlamaMan: greedy greedy
#2036 [16:20] <JakX12321> lol
#2037 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> It was 10 euros
#2038 [16:21] <LlamaMan> Yeah steam has made me a bit greedy
#2039 [16:21] <JakX12321> man notch has so much money its not even funny...thats right...i just rapped
#2040 [16:21] <relsqui> no. no you didn't.
#2041 [16:21] <JakX12321> yes yes i did
#2042 [16:21] <LlamaMan> No rythm
#2043 [16:21] <JakX12321> yes there is
#2044 [16:22] <aetherian> no
#2045 [16:22] <JakX12321> man is like a grace note if know what that is
#2046 [16:22] <LlamaMan> Actually there is...
#2047 [16:22] <SkiingPenguins> yall crazy.
#2048 [16:22] <LlamaMan> Man, notch has so much money, its not even funny
#2049 [16:22] <aetherian> because there is no such thing as rythm. maaaaybe rhythm, though
#2050 [16:22] <JakX12321> exactly
#2051 [16:22] <aetherian> :D
#2052 [16:22] <LlamaMan> :P
#2053 [16:23] <LlamaMan> Wow the smileys look retarded
#2054 [16:23] <JakX12321> yea they do
#2055 [16:23] <LlamaMan> Derp
#2056 [16:23] <JakX12321> :(
#2057 [16:23] <JakX12321> :'(
#2058 [16:23] <aetherian> on what
#2059 [16:23] <JakX12321> XD
#2060 [16:23] <LlamaMan> D
#2061 [16:23] <JakX12321> :D
#2062 [16:23] <aetherian> oh mibbit
#2063 [16:23] <LlamaMan> "mibbit" apparently
#2064 [16:23] <aetherian> everything looks retarded on mibbit
#2065 [16:24] <LlamaMan> Anyone know a good word to create a world in minecraft?
#2066 [16:24] <JakX12321> insane skills map
#2067 [16:24] <NinjaKirby> I haven't been reading Notch's Blog entries lately, but I swear the Stone Tools have reverted to there original usage amount
#2068 [16:24] <LlamaMan> xD Ok ill try
#2069 [16:24] <Kealper> JakX12321: chllenge accepted!
#2070 [16:24] <JakX12321> what challenge
#2071 [16:24] <Kealper> to see if that seed is actually any good
#2072 [16:25] <JakX12321> oh...i thought he said name for the map
#2073 [16:25] <Kealper> oh lol
#2074 [16:25] <Kealper> woh
#2075 [16:25] <JakX12321> but still try it and see what happens lol
#2076 [16:25] <Kealper> this doesn't look too bad
#2077 [16:25] <JakX12321> yea see i knew it would look like tha
#2078 [16:26] <JakX12321> what does the seed do anyways?
#2079 [16:26] <Kealper> determines how the level is generated
#2080 [16:26] <LlamaMan> Crappy seed actually :P
#2081 [16:27] <LlamaMan> Dull
#2082 [16:27] <JakX12321> geez...
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#2084 [16:27] <Kealper> it has some coal in plain view, and some high points to build a house on...that's good enough for me lol
#2085 [16:28] <JakX12321> do notch
#2086 [16:29] <Kealper> heck, this actually has a lot of coal right at spawn....lol
#2087 [16:29] <Kealper> bah, too busy playing this one :3
#2088 [16:29] <JakX12321> lol...notch has alot of falt planes
#2089 [16:29] <JakX12321> flat*
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#2092 [16:33] <NinjaKirby> Never ceases to amaze me
#2093 [16:33] <NinjaKirby> Actually, Minecraft deserves that line more
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#2101 [16:45] <Diohix> Wow, a lot of people here. Been directed here for my problem... Can anyone help me with this error on multiplayer?
#2102 [16:45] <Diohix> 'Connection Lost
#2103 [16:45] <Diohix> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed.'
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#2105 [16:45] <oldtopman> When does it happen?
#2106 [16:46] <Diohix> All the time basically, I've only ever been able to get on one server without a problem
#2107 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Do you happen to know the brand of your NIC?
#2108 [16:46] <Diohix> Ehh... Kinda new at this... NIC stands for? >.<
#2109 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> network interface card
#2110 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> The thing you use to plug in the ethernet cable into, or get the network from
#2111 [16:47] <oldtopman> Who made you network card? Or if it is built into your laptop/computer the manufacturer
#2112 [16:47] <NinjaKirby> The overuse of Acronyms will be mankinds undoing
#2113 [16:48] <Diohix> It's built into my laptop by the manudacturer
#2114 [16:48] <oldtopman> Who made the laptop?
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#2116 [16:48] <Diohix> It's an Acer Aspire 5536
#2117 [16:49] <oldtopman> What OS are you running?
#2118 [16:50] <Diohix> Operating system? Windows Vista
#2119 [16:51] <oldtopman> There are reports of it working.
#2120 [16:51] <oldtopman> Are you using the new client?
#2121 [16:51] <Diohix> Yeah
#2122 [16:51] <oldtopman> Try a force update.
#2123 [16:52] <oldtopman> It might not work, but it rules some stuff out.
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#2125 [16:54] <Diohix> Nope same thing
#2126 [16:55] <oldtopman> Try my server. It is up to date and works from here.
#2127 [16:55] <oldtopman> I'll PM the IP to you.
#2128 [16:55] <Diohix> Okay
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#2133 [17:01] <Nappz> Why does every fricken clock generator I build stop ticking after a while... (and by awhile, I mean, many hours)
#2134 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> We went over this Nappz
#2135 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> short circuit?
#2136 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> 1.3 has a redstone glitch that does that
#2137 [17:02] <Nappz> Oh, its that same glitch then?
#2138 [17:02] <Nappz> lol
#2139 [17:02] <Nappz> Such a pain in the butt -.- Hope it's fixed soon
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#2141 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, tell me about it, I kinda depend on those clock generators to protect my base
#2142 [17:03] <iamweirdie> !check element626.homeip.net
#2143 [17:03] <Nappz> heh lol
#2144 [17:04] <Nappz> For dispensers I assume? :P
#2145 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#2146 [17:04] <Nappz> Yeah, thats what I need to use one for also atm.. lol
#2147 [17:05] <Nappz> Whats the best x-clock to use to power a dispenser to fire arrows at the fastest rate without burning out torches?
#2148 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how you want to hook it up
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#2150 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> I find the 4-clock is the best, if you hook it up right.. you can make the dispenser fire on an "ON" and an "OFF" signal
#2151 [17:06] <Nappz> Ohhh
#2152 [17:06] <Nappz> Didn't think of that
#2153 [17:06] <Nappz> lol
#2154 [17:06] <Nappz> The only problem is though..
#2155 [17:06] <Nappz> I have it hooked up through an AND gate and that would prob burn out the torches on it
#2156 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> basically involves a dispenser with a redstone torch beneath it.. and a redstone wire powering the block behind it
#2157 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2158 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> I actually have it implemented on my base, doesn't burn out
#2159 [17:07] <Nappz> Hmm
#2160 [17:07] <Nappz> Ah yeah
#2161 [17:07] <Nappz> That makes sense.. Just take the power going to the dispenser and also invert it
#2162 [17:07] <Nappz> So you get the best of both worlds..
#2163 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#2164 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Fires pretty freakin fast as well.
#2165 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Though nothing beats Kealper's 1-tick design. That thing is a beast
#2166 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> 1-tick? Must only work in SSP
#2167 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope, SMP
#2168 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#2169 [17:09] <Nappz> Well, there must be a disadvantage to that, no? Otherwise you wouldn't be using the 4-clock, right?
#2170 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> I'll have to bug him for that design when I'm back home
#2171 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Well, you can't really.. turn it on and off with an AND gate
#2172 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> Nappz: other than that you cannot retreive arrows fired by dispensers?
#2173 [17:09] <Nappz> Yeah
#2174 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> burns out the redstone torch
#2175 [17:09] <Nappz> Didn't think so
#2176 [17:09] <Nappz> Hmm.. Yeah very true. So it's not good for automated designs like that
#2177 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, no.
#2178 [17:10] <Nappz> It would have to be directly connected to the dispenser
#2179 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> It is
#2180 [17:11] <Nappz> It is connected to the dispenser or it is good for automated systems?
#2181 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> It's connected directly to (two) dispensers.
#2182 [17:11] <Nappz> Ah yeah...
#2183 [17:12] <Nappz> Which 4-clock design do you use GreyVulpine?
#2184 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> The compact repeater/redstone on a block design
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#2186 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Repeater
#2187 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> 4th picture down on the right
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#2190 [17:15] <Nappz> Ahk, nice
#2191 [17:19] <Nappz> I built an epic obsidian bank vault with a 10-bit combonation lock which actually requires two people to be present to open the vault door. And if you try the wrong combonation, you get fired at by a barrage of arrows :P
#2192 [17:20] <Nappz> Redstone circuitry is soo pretty on paper, but once you actually try to built it within a certain area, it becomes so damn hard to wire it all up
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#2195 [17:24] <quibbit> Can someone buy me minecraft I will give you a 20 $ GoCash card code cuz I cant buy it with that card
#2196 [17:25] <Nappz> Good luck ^_^
#2197 [17:25] <SkiingPenguins> lol
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#2199 [17:27] <xales> D:
#2200 [17:27] <SkiingPenguins> whats wrong xales?
#2201 [17:27] <xales> idiots
#2202 [17:27] <xales> well
#2203 [17:27] <SkiingPenguins> you banned quibbit guy?
#2204 [17:27] <xales> most of the human race
#2205 [17:27] <xales> ._.
#2206 [17:28] <xales> yes
#2207 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#2208 [17:28] <SkiingPenguins> i agree that most of the human race is worthless <.<
#2209 [17:29] <xales> hmm
#2210 [17:30] <xales> canis split and never reconnected to the net
#2211 [17:30] * xales wonders if anyone noticed ._.
#2211 [17:30] <zw> Can maby anyone help me with coding of webpage?
#2212 [17:30] <zw> its just a little thing
#2213 [17:30] <zw> Its a marge outside my forum i want to remove
#2214 [17:30] <zw> or not marge, what do you call it :P
#2215 [17:31] <zw> the black around the forum: http://miners.wiklem.no/phpbb
#2216 [17:31] <SkiingPenguins> margin?
#2217 [17:31] <zw> If you see, the font is to big
#2218 [17:31] <zw> and the forum is pressed into the middle
#2219 [17:31] <zw> instead of extend to the end of the site (black lines on each side)
#2220 [17:31] <zw> if you understand me :P
#2221 [17:33] <zw> no?
#2222 [17:33] <SkiingPenguins> no sorry
#2223 [17:34] <zw> ok :/
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#2225 [17:37] <Mr_> hi5, got a Q... we are running the normal minecraft server (downloaded from site) on my PC (inetcon: 60mbit down, 6mbit upload ~ 500-700kb/s)... im connecting on my server from my pc, and hes connecting via (real) LAN (no hamachi) on my external or internal ip
#2226 [17:38] <Mr_> but every block hes mining, is coming back after a few seconds
#2227 [17:38] <Mr_> also everything he builds is being removed after a few seconds
#2228 [17:38] <Mr_> whats the problem?
#2229 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> And he's moved away from spawn?
#2230 [17:38] <Mr_> yes, running around
#2231 [17:39] <xales> any mods on the server?
#2232 [17:39] <Mr_> no mods on server or clients
#2233 [17:39] <Mr_> just the pure game, and the pure server
#2234 [17:39] <Mr_> non modded
#2235 [17:39] <xales> what are the specs of the server maching?
#2236 [17:40] <zw> I use SSH to connect to my server now. Watching it running in byoub. But after a time, i cant type into it
#2237 [17:40] <zw> like list etc
#2238 [17:40] <zw> how to enter it again for typing?
#2239 [17:40] <zw> do I realy need to restart it?
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#2241 [17:40] <Mr_> erm, im running it on local machine, not on external server... but specs are: i7 920 overclocked on 3,4ghz, 6 gig ram, geforce gtx 295
#2242 [17:40] <Mr_> and the internet connection is fast enough, minecraft doesnt even use 20% of the upload
#2243 [17:40] <xales> how are you launching the server
#2244 [17:41] <Mr_> doubleclick on exe, then console window pops up
#2245 [17:41] <Mr_> and its running...
#2246 [17:41] <zw> me or Mr_?
#2247 [17:41] <xales> zw: Mr_
#2248 [17:41] <zw> kk
#2249 [17:41] <Mr_> i can give u ip and u can try urself if u want
#2250 [17:41] <xales> Mr_: do you have a firewall running on the server?
#2251 [17:41] <Mr_> firewalls are switched off
#2252 [17:42] <Mr_> windows & router firewall - both
#2253 [17:42] <Mr_> or, lets say, windows firewall is off and on routerfirewall 25565 TCP & UDP are open
#2254 [17:42] <Mr_> ive tested the port, its working fine with everything else
#2255 [17:42] <xales> do you both have the lag/respawning issue?
#2256 [17:42] <xales> also, is chat delayed?
#2257 [17:42] <Mr_> yes a bit, but not dramaticly
#2258 [17:43] <Mr_> it seems like he has no rights for destructing or building, can this be?
#2259 [17:43] <xales> the normal server only protects the spawn from non-ops building
#2260 [17:43] <Mr_> mmmm, so what else can be the problem? :S
#2261 [17:44] <xales> try making the friend an op and see if thta fixes it, I suppose
#2262 [17:44] <xales> (and if chat is delayed, then the problem is likely lag)
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#2264 [17:45] <Mr_> but how can this be a problem
#2265 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> zw: were you asking how to reconnect to a byobu/screen session?
#2266 [17:45] <Mr_> if minecraft doesnt even use 1% of my download speed
#2267 [17:45] <Mr_> and not even 20% of uploadspeed
#2268 [17:46] <xales> it doesn't have to be network latency causing the problem
#2269 [17:46] <xales> it is more likely an issue with your computer not able to handle it
#2270 [17:46] <Mr_> mmm, my machine is 1337, i can play every new game on maxed out graphics
#2271 [17:46] <SkiingPenguins> that's great
#2272 [17:46] <Mr_> and never have more than 30% processor usage
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#2274 [17:47] <SkiingPenguins> i really dont care. every game is different.
#2275 [17:47] <xales> ^
#2276 [17:47] <Mr_> how can this be that my pc cant handle a 5mb game?
#2277 [17:47] <mib_j4i09c> Would anyone know why my update stops at "downloading packages"
#2278 [17:47] <SkiingPenguins> it's not 5mb
#2279 [17:47] <Mr_> (xales): how to give him op?
#2280 [17:47] <Mr_> /op username
#2281 [17:47] <Mr_> doesnt work
#2282 [17:47] <xales> then you aren't an op
#2283 [17:47] <SkiingPenguins> are you op?
#2284 [17:47] <xales> do it in the server console
#2285 [17:47] <xales> "op username"
#2286 [17:47] <feenyx> Mr_: why would you think that harddrive space taken is relevant to computing requirements?
#2287 [17:47] <SkiingPenguins> lol you say your machine is 1337 but you must not be :P
#2288 [17:48] <SkiingPenguins> you cant work a 5mb game as you call it?
#2289 [17:48] <xales> ??> mib_j4i09c win/reinst
#2290 [17:48] <SkiingPenguins> -.-
#2291 [17:48] <VoxelHead> mib_j4i09c: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2292 [17:48] <VoxelHead> mib_j4i09c: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2293 [17:48] <NinjaKirby> Oh boy, here we go!
#2294 [17:48] <feenyx> You could write a program in less than 100k that would max out any computer
#2295 [17:48] <xales> feenyx: I can do it in <6 <.<
#2296 [17:48] <SkiingPenguins> feenyx i did. haha
#2297 [17:48] <xales> while(true){malloc(1024);}
#2298 [17:48] <xales> derp
#2299 [17:48] <feenyx> I rest my case, then :p
#2300 [17:48] <feenyx> rofl
#2301 [17:48] <feenyx> that's cheating
#2302 [17:49] <xales> ??> Mr_ requirements
#2303 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Mr_: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#2304 [17:49] <oldtopman> feenyx: Do you arelly want one?
#2305 [17:49] <feenyx> oldtopman: your sentence makes no sense, please try again
#2306 [17:50] <oldtopman> It was in refrence to this: <feenyx> You could write a program in less than 100k that would max out any computer
#2307 [17:50] <feenyx> oh
#2308 [17:50] <feenyx> no
#2309 [17:50] <oldtopman> So do ou really want one?
#2310 [17:50] <feenyx> I was simply stating that program size is in no way relevant to computing needs
#2311 [17:50] <oldtopman> ah.
#2312 [17:50] <oldtopman> nvm then
#2313 [17:50] <feenyx> :)
#2314 [17:51] <xales> hrm
#2315 [17:51] <xales> I think I'm doing this wrong
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#2317 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> Can anyone make the reverse? a 20Gb that runs on a 486 or something
#2318 [17:51] <feenyx> xales: there's probably an app for that
#2319 [17:51] <feenyx> NinjaKirby: sure, just include heaps of FMV
#2320 [17:51] <feenyx> and sountracks
#2321 [17:51] <feenyx> soundtracks*
#2322 [17:51] <xales> feenyx: ever connected to IRC via telnet/nc (raw?)
#2323 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> Hehe, I guess, in Flac
#2324 [17:51] <Nappz> Any way to disable creepers in SMP?
#2325 [17:51] <feenyx> xales: I have actually, but that was years ago =/
#2326 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> xales: why involve C? :(){:&:}: (do not run this)
#2327 [17:52] <xales> NinjaKirby: the ELF file format (what pretty much all not-Windows use for executables) allows for an indefinite amount of padding
#2328 [17:52] <Mr_> (VoxelHead): you want to say that ... i7 920 3,4ghz + nvidia 295gtx + 6 gig 1600mhz ram + 1tb freespace is not enough for minecraft?
#2329 [17:52] <feenyx> Nappz: you could turn monsters off entirely in the properties file, but that's about it. No way to disable certain enemies
#2330 [17:52] <Mr_> i realy dont get the point :-O
#2331 [17:52] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: that will get you banned from #slackware
#2332 [17:52] <xales> Mr_: It might be enough for the client, or the server, but not both
#2333 [17:52] <xales> also, VoxelHead is a bot
#2334 [17:52] <xales> ._.
#2335 [17:53] <Mr_> aaa, didnt see ur command b4
#2336 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: I'm not in #slackware. (:
#2337 [17:53] * AG_Scott lol'd.
#2337 [17:53] <AG_Scott> <3 people who don't realize bots are bots.
#2338 [17:53] <xales> AG_Scott: someone tried talking to AuBOT before
#2339 [17:53] <AG_Scott> XD
#2340 [17:53] <feenyx> well, AuBot is quite chatty
#2341 [17:53] <AG_Scott> I had to add (PS. I'm a bot.) to jeeves
#2342 [17:53] <AG_Scott> because people will try to talk to it
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#2344 [17:54] <AG_Scott> Even though it's clearly a bot.
#2345 [17:54] <Mr_> (23:52:35) (@xales) Mr_: It might be enough for the client, or the server, but not both <-- when both is running, ive got usage of cpu: less than 5%, usage of ram less than 40%, usage of GPU less than 1%
#2346 [17:54] <Mr_> so this cant be the problem :-O
#2347 [17:54] <Mr_> if i would have 100%, ok, then it wont be enough
#2348 [17:54] <AG_Scott> That's not normal CPU usage.
#2349 [17:54] <xales> ^
#2350 [17:54] <feenyx> Mr_: run dxdiag and put it on pastebin for us?
#2351 [17:55] <Mr_> w8t a sec
#2352 [17:55] <xales> AG_Scott: I've maxed out a Phenom x6 at 3.2GHz with just Minecraft before :P
#2353 [17:56] <Mash> xales; How? MC isn't multithreaded, should've just capped at like 18%
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#2355 [17:56] <xales> Mash: I ran the server 6 times :P
#2356 [17:56] <Mr_> phenom 6x is not comparable to my cpu
#2357 [17:56] <xales> Mr_: no, it's probably better
#2358 [17:56] <Mr_> its like comparing the k2 with a hill
#2359 [17:56] <AG_Scott> If those portals ever get decent, I'd like a 48 core server with 48 servers running.
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#2361 [17:56] <Kealper> lol
#2362 [17:57] <Mr_> (feenyx): http://pastebin.com/2MCGJAET
#2363 [17:57] <Mr_> dxdiag64
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#2365 [17:57] <AG_Scott> ooh the new 8 cores xeons will be fun.
#2366 [17:57] <Kealper> amd has 12 core server cpus
#2367 [17:57] <xales> Mr_: looks like the CPU, like I said :P
#2368 [17:57] <Meh> Hello there, I need some support for my game, can someone help me ?
#2369 [17:57] <Mash> xales; still, that's pretty impressive, I don't think I've ever maxed out my 965@4.2 on water lol
#2370 [17:57] <Kealper> slow clock speeds though
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#2372 [17:57] <xales> ??> Meh ask
#2373 [17:57] <VoxelHead> Meh: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2374 [17:57] <VoxelHead> Meh: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2375 [17:57] <Mr_> (xales): what about the cpu?
#2376 [17:57] <Mash> hiya Nevercast.
#2377 [17:57] <xales> Mr_: it's too slow
#2378 [17:58] <nevercast> xales, I like the bit when they reply to Voxel :D
#2379 [17:58] <nevercast> Hey Mash.
#2380 [17:58] <Mr_> its automaticly downgrading in speed
#2381 [17:58] <Mr_> when its UNUSED
#2382 [17:58] <Mash> nevercast; server has issues, need you to check out your mcwrapper.
#2383 [17:58] <feenyx> I recently came by a Dual-CPU Quad-core Opteron HP workstation. It's gonna be my MC server from now on :p
#2384 [17:58] <Mr_> if minecraft would use more than 1% cpu, it would be go up to 3,4ghz
#2385 [17:58] <xales> Mr_: dxdiag will show the capable speed, not how much it's actually using :)
#2386 [17:58] <nevercast> Mr_: Yeah, Is your CPU an M series?
#2387 [17:58] <Mr_> LOL
#2388 [17:58] <Mr_> ok
#2389 [17:58] <Mr_> if u want
#2390 [17:58] <Mr_> i make not 3,4 permanent
#2391 [17:58] <Kealper> using enter as a spacebar ftl
#2392 [17:58] <nevercast> Mash, Okay will do.
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#2394 [17:59] <Mash> nevercast; also, steam? :o
#2395 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> <3 Steam.
#2396 [17:59] <Meh> Well, me and my friend want to play Minecraft on a LAN network, we tried with Wi-Fi, now we are with filar connexion. He host the server on his computer and when I am playing, I have no lag, just one problem, and I am the only one to have it : when I destroy a block it makes around 30 seconds to be deleted and even more to get into my inventory.
#2397 [18:00] <nevercast> Mash, One sec.
#2398 [18:00] <nevercast> Had network issues so steam didn't start up
#2399 [18:00] <Kealper> sounds like someone either has severely slow internet or the server is not getting enough cpu time
#2400 [18:00] <nevercast> Mash, have you fixed the problem?
#2401 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Meh, try turning down the graphics on your computer, turn off smooth lighting as well
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#2403 [18:01] <Mash> nevercast; I don't even know where your wrapper's located or I'd have tried myself.
#2404 [18:01] <Meh> Already done, it doesn't work, my computer don't slow down.
#2405 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> hey Kealper, can you restart the server?
#2406 [18:01] <Mash> nevercast; server is going slower than shit, to the extent I'm timing out on a lan yo.
#2407 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> redstone's been acting up again
#2408 [18:01] <xales> Meh: either the connection is too slow, or the server is too slow
#2409 [18:01] <nevercast> Mash okay
#2410 [18:01] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: restart pending
#2411 [18:02] <Kealper> done
#2412 [18:02] <xales> if you are on a LAN, it is more likely that the server is too slow
#2413 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Thanks kealper
#2414 [18:03] <nevercast> Mash, Yeah it's lagged to hell, Stuck in an inf-loop by the looks of this shit
#2415 [18:03] <Meh> It run smooth, I have no problem with high graphics into one player mode. The connexion is filar, into a switching hub 10Base-T, already tried with a different network card, with a different way to connect, we are 5 meters one to each other on a straight cooper cable. One of our other friend tried to play on the same network and do not have this problem.
#2416 [18:03] <Kealper> Mojang needs to get back to the office and fix that redstone bug lol
#2417 [18:03] <Mash> Meh; Fiber, not Filer.
#2418 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Notch and jnkboy are in las vegas right now
#2419 [18:04] <Meh> Well, with a cable, sorry.
#2420 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> The rest of the mojang team are either flying back, or already back
#2421 [18:04] <nevercast> Kealper, sure do!
#2422 [18:04] <Mash> GreyVulpine; let's hope they don't blow their $800k in savings there.
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#2424 [18:04] <Kealper> mollstam is still afk so i assume they are not back yet :/
#2425 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#2427 [18:05] <xales> Meh: then the problem is the server
#2428 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/mollstam
#2429 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> "Turns out I'm still a bit jet lagged to zone into programming flow."
#2430 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> "This just in: Mojang lost itself in a high-stakes hand of poker. Expect microtransactions and slot machines in the next update."
#2431 [18:05] <Kealper> oh
#2432 [18:05] <xales> anyway
#2433 [18:05] <Mash> GreyVulpine, I wonder if they'll go speedcode a new build out for us when they get back.. I'm pretty sure Notch will be anxious to get back to coding.
#2434 [18:05] * xales has to go
#2434 [18:05] * xales goes
#2434 [18:06] <nevercast> Mash
#2435 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Mash: if they do, people will just bitch about new bugs.
#2436 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure they'll get back up to speed
#2437 [18:06] <nevercast> We have a problem with out server
#2438 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> hell, they'll do that anyway.
#2439 [18:06] <nevercast> *our
#2440 [18:06] <Mash> DopeGhoti, I don't care about bugs, that's the point of a beta.. I just want new stuff to play with lol
#2441 [18:06] <Mr_> (xales): as far as i know, dxdiag is showing infos about graphic cards, not about CPU's. dxdiag is wrong about ~2,3ghz. if i start prime95 (to use 100% of CPU), my cpu is running on 3,4ghz not on 2,3 as shown in dxdiag - i can see it with "everest ultimate edition" and "CPU-Z"
#2442 [18:06] <Mash> nevercast; yes?
#2443 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> And looks like Notch is heading back to sweden tomorrow
#2444 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/notch/status/45178546372616192
#2445 [18:06] <nevercast> Mash, We have hours and hours worth of 'Chunk (cords) is at (othercords)' Severe errors.
#2446 [18:06] <Mr_> and i already tested it, if my cpu is running on more than 10%, its going up to 3,4ghz, so its cant be the prblem
#2447 [18:07] <nevercast> Mash, That is where the inf-loop came from
#2448 [18:07] <Mash> NeverCast; Ah- So uh, what's the fix? lol
#2449 [18:07] <nevercast> Mash, By Hours of Errors.. I mean the server log is at 14 GiB!!
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#2452 [18:07] <Mash> nevercast; HOLY HELL.
#2453 [18:08] <nevercast> Mash, It would have consumed your entire hard drive in about 4 days by the looks of this rate
#2454 [18:08] <feenyx> I've seen sql logs grow 14GiB in a single night
#2455 [18:08] <feenyx> or more
#2456 [18:08] <feenyx> freaked me the hell out
#2457 [18:08] <nevercast> feenyx: This is a minecraft log with no one playing lol.
#2458 [18:08] <Mash> nevercast; This is why I lazilied(sp?) tossed an 80 in it, don't need anything bigger for a "server".
#2459 [18:09] <Mash> lazily, works ebtter
#2460 [18:09] <Meh> I am the only one to have this problem, when I host the server and try to play alone, I have also this same problem of respawning blocks, long delay before it goes off.
#2461 [18:09] <Mash> better, even
#2462 [18:09] <feenyx> there was absolutely no reason for my logs to grow like that either, I just came to work and saw the harddrives were full :p
#2463 [18:09] <Mash> Meh: "respawning blocks"?
#2464 [18:09] <nevercast> Lol yeah
#2465 [18:09] <Mash> Meh: bukkit server?
#2466 [18:10] <Meh> Yes, my client shows the block going off and the server put it back, not doing the update.
#2467 [18:10] <Meh> Sorry, what is bukkit server ?
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#2469 [18:10] <Mash> Meh: then nevermind, you don't have a bukkit server.
#2470 [18:11] <Mash> Meh: do you have the problem when connecting to other servers?
#2471 [18:11] <Mash> Meh: or only when you host your own?
#2472 [18:11] <Meh> Yes, to my friend server, on LAN network.
#2473 [18:11] <Mr_> (Meh): read bukkit news?
#2474 [18:11] <Mr_> they have serverproblems
#2475 [18:11] <Mr_> -.-
#2476 [18:12] * Kealper cracks open a 2-liter of Faygo Peach Pop
#2476 [18:12] <Mash> Kealper; be a man- get a beer. :o
#2477 [18:12] <Kealper> psh....peach pop is the friggin shit
#2478 [18:12] <nevercast> Kealper, Ever encounted server chunk errors?
#2479 [18:12] <Meh> I came here after reading a ton of stuff about it, not finding any help to my problem.
#2480 [18:12] <Mash> Meh: http://www.pingtest.net
#2481 [18:13] <nevercast> Kealper, what about 'Entity in wrong place' errors?
#2482 [18:13] <nevercast> Mash, We have zombies walking around OFF the map!
#2483 [18:13] <Mash> nevercast; I noticed that the single time it let me log in.
#2484 [18:13] <nevercast> Mash, Server does not like it
#2485 [18:13] <Kealper> nevercast: not that i know of for server chunk errors, "Player moved wrongly" is a client/server sync error
#2486 [18:14] <nevercast> Kealper, well I've getting Entity moving wrongly
#2487 [18:14] <Kealper> getting it a lot?
#2488 [18:14] <nevercast> Kealper, and a bunch of chunk location errors.
#2489 [18:14] <Kealper> hmm.......
#2490 [18:14] <nevercast> Kealper, The server.log reached 14Gib in a few hours... so yes a lot
#2491 [18:14] <Kealper> is your domain .net or .com? i forget
#2492 [18:14] <Kealper> WOW
#2493 [18:14] <nevercast> Kealper, nevercast.net
#2494 [18:14] <Kealper> that's impressive
#2495 [18:15] <nevercast> Kealper, I can start the server up for a short time if you wish but the log is going to go nuts again.
#2496 [18:15] <Mr_> im realy p**sed off, bought 2 copies of the game - and cant even play it since 1 month - great! -.-
#2497 [18:15] <Iguana> what did you pay with?
#2498 [18:15] <Kealper> how much is it spamming? like each time a client sends a movement packet or something? lol
#2499 [18:15] <Meh> To make it short : We are on a lan network, going through straight cooper cables and a switch. (My network card is fine and ready), I have the exact same problem when I am hosting the server on the exact same computer.
#2500 [18:15] <Mr_> paypal :-O
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#2502 [18:15] <nevercast> Kealper, No each time the game does a main process loop.. so several times a second
#2503 [18:16] <nevercast> Kealper, with or without players
#2504 [18:16] <Mash> Meh: I haven't a clue what would be going on there, that's a little more specific of a problem than I've ever run into.
#2505 [18:16] <Kealper> Meh: you could have a bug that was caused by the 1.3 update that makes people lag really bad for no reason
#2506 [18:16] <Mash> Meh: GreyVulpine might be more of a help with this one, he seems to know the more technical aspects better than most.
#2507 [18:17] <Kealper> nevercast: tried a new map?
#2508 [18:17] <nevercast> Kealper: Have you seen our map? Doesn't exactly wanna kill it lollll
#2509 [18:17] <Mr_> ok, now i have the ultimative answer on your "(@xales) Mr_: it's too slow" answer... when I connect on my server, everything is working fine
#2510 [18:17] <Meh> I never had a similar issue before and I can't tell when or with which update I had this problem mainly because I didn't played minecraft for three month.
#2511 [18:17] <nevercast> Mash, any idea how long ago this thing worked? :P
#2512 [18:17] <Mr_> only if my friend is connecting, hes getting problems with this, any clue?
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#2514 [18:17] <Mr_> :-S
#2515 [18:18] <Mash> nevercast; last time I know it worked fine was before you reset the spawn point issue.
#2516 [18:18] <Mr_> (Iguana): why did u ask
#2517 [18:18] <Mash> nevercast; I've been sleeping like a baby since then. lol
#2518 [18:18] <Kealper> nevercast: just rename it to like....world1 or something and start the server again
#2519 [18:18] <nevercast> Mash, Well it wasn't working right then either because the spawn point fucked over.
#2520 [18:18] <Iguana> Iunno
#2521 [18:18] <Iguana> lol
#2522 [18:18] <Mash> nevercast; maybe it's scared of your NZ quakes.
#2523 [18:19] <Meh> Thanks for the help anyway, is there any special way to contact him or just wait for him on this channel ?
#2524 [18:19] <nevercast> Mash lol.
#2525 [18:19] <Mash> Meh: just wait for him in the channel.
#2526 [18:19] <nevercast> Kealper, That threw exceptions while building the new map
#2527 [18:19] <Kealper> Meh: contact who?
#2528 [18:19] <Mash> Kealper, GreyVulpine
#2529 [18:19] <Meh> GreyVulpine.
#2530 [18:19] <Kealper> nevercast: smells like your jar is corrupt or something
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#2532 [18:19] <nevercast> Kealper: Okay I can restore that shit.
#2533 [18:20] * Kealper poked GreyVulpine
#2533 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2534 [18:20] <Mash> nevercast, btw, I may just be nubby, but htop was showing 4 instances of java, each with a seperate pid.
#2535 [18:20] <Kealper> Meh requested you, grey
#2536 [18:20] <Meh> Hello GreyVulpine, can I borrow some of your time ?
#2537 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> What's up?
#2538 [18:20] <Kealper> Mash: that ain't normal O.o
#2539 [18:21] <Mash> Kealper, I didn't think it was lol, but NeverCast wrote a custom wrapper for the whole 9 yards so I just left it along 'till he cam one.
#2540 [18:21] <feenyx> Mash: you should have one for the server and one for the client, at best
#2541 [18:21] <nevercast> Kealper, restored Jar.. It seems a bit better now
#2542 [18:21] <Mash> came on*
#2543 [18:21] <nevercast> Mash, Threads :)
#2544 [18:21] <Mash> nevercast, 4 threads on a dualcore?
#2545 [18:21] <Kealper> oh....not vanilla
#2546 [18:21] <nevercast> Mash, It confused me at first, But if you put htop into Tree view, There is one java instance with threads
#2547 [18:22] <nevercast> No lol, Process threads
#2548 [18:22] <Mr_> can some1 connect on my minecraft server and test if its working for him? maybe my friends PC or connection is the reason...?
#2549 [18:22] <Mash> Mr_; I'll do it.
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#2551 [18:22] <Kealper> Mr_: type !check and then the ip to check
#2552 [18:22] <Mr_> k, ty
#2553 [18:22] <Mash> Mr_, nevercast broke our server anyway
#2554 [18:22] <Meh> I make it quick : My network connexion is fine. Whenever I try to destroy a block on whatever server, I have to wait 30 sec before it's destroyed, and even 1minutes 30 sec to gather the block.
#2555 [18:22] <Mr_> !check 91.65.150.147:25565
#2556 [18:22] <Mr_> i dont need to test IF its on
#2557 [18:22] <Mr_> i know its on
#2558 [18:22] <Mr_> im on it
#2559 [18:22] <Kealper> oh lol
#2560 [18:23] <skulkid> I got a problem, I cant log out. It's becouse of my connection or something is wrong with the server?
#2561 [18:23] <Kealper> thought you needed port forwarding checking or something
#2562 [18:23] <Mr_> i need some1 to test if the blocks are staying
#2563 [18:23] <Mr_> if hes unbuilding them
#2564 [18:23] <Meh> I have a perfectly fine computer and I am on a LAN connexion, I even tried with a local server with a local connexion, same problem.
#2565 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Meh - Honestly, 1.3 has introduced a lot of bugs, including some that involve lag on the server in one form or another. My server's virtually unplayable due to the 1.3 patch. I'd really wait for the next patch, see if it continues
#2566 [18:24] <Meh> Alright, is there anyway to downgrade my game
#2567 [18:24] <Meh> ?
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#2569 [18:24] <nevercast> Kealper, repairing the Jar fixed the Region errors it seems, but not the zombie errors...
#2570 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> There is, but it requires you to have kept a backup of the old files, both client and server-side
#2571 [18:25] <Kealper> zombie errors?
#2572 [18:25] <nevercast> Kealper, Zombies walking around off the map and the server crying about it
#2573 [18:25] <Mash> Mr_; server works fine, hardly any lag that I noticed.
#2574 [18:25] <Kealper> oh...
#2575 [18:25] <nevercast> Kealper: They are at like, -278y
#2576 [18:25] <nevercast> lol.
#2577 [18:25] <Kealper> nevercast: try a new map now? the corrupt srever might have owned the map
#2578 [18:25] <Meh> I don't. So I have to wait the next version, seems to. :)
#2579 [18:25] <skulkid> Why can't I log out on site? Is it my foult or server's ?
#2580 [18:25] <nevercast> Kealper: New map runs fine.
#2581 [18:25] <nevercast> Kealper: Just going to go through backups.
#2582 [18:26] <Kealper> nevercast: then the corrupt server got owned :/
#2583 [18:26] <nevercast> Kealper: I need to make my wrapper better.
#2584 [18:26] <Mr_> sorry my english is shit
#2585 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> At least wait till the next release, see if it continues Meh.
#2586 [18:26] <Kealper> nevercast: honestly....the map itself is probably fine
#2587 [18:26] <Mr_> "hardly any lag" = laggy?
#2588 [18:26] <Mash> Mr_; your english is fine :p
#2589 [18:26] <Mr_> or not laggy
#2590 [18:26] <Kealper> nevercast: but the entities are all in the wrong spots, so the server is still complaining
#2591 [18:26] <Meh> Thank you all so much for your help and your time. Yes, I'll recontact you if it continues.
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#2593 [18:26] <Mash> Mr_; just the normal lag you expect with a remote server. No lag for multiplayer.
#2594 [18:26] <Meh> Have a great day/night !
#2595 [18:26] <nevercast> Kealper, There isn't any tools to fix that is there?
#2596 [18:26] <Mr_> ok
#2597 [18:26] <Mr_> thanks a lot
#2598 [18:26] <nevercast> Kealper, Wish there was a tool I could use to clear all entities
#2599 [18:26] <Mash> Meh: sorry and good luck!
#2600 [18:26] <nevercast> Kealper, and sometimes all floating items
#2601 [18:26] <Kealper> nevercast: leaving it on for a while might fix it, as the broken entities unspawn from the chunks it should fix itself now
#2602 [18:27] <Mr_> so, basicly the problem is not my pc, its the other pc - thats VERY GOOD news ;-D
#2603 [18:27] <Mr_> im very happy about it
#2604 [18:27] <Mr_> u made my day
#2605 [18:27] <Mr_> thank you <3
#2606 [18:27] <Mr_> have a nice day
#2607 [18:27] <Kealper> lol
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#2609 [18:27] <NinjaKirby> ^^;;
#2610 [18:28] <nevercast> Kealper: It's not fixing itself, It's looping over the same 5 zombies off the map
#2611 [18:28] <nevercast> Kealper: It's trying to reset them but having no luck
#2612 [18:28] <Kealper> nevercast: can you get to them?
#2613 [18:28] <Kealper> if you can, just kill them
#2614 [18:28] <nevercast> Kealper: I don't know if I can log in
#2615 [18:29] <nevercast> They are 200 blocks below bedrock
#2616 [18:29] <Kealper> :/
#2617 [18:29] <nevercast> I couldn't get to them if I was magic
#2618 [18:29] <nevercast> I can try CraftBukkit
#2619 [18:29] <nevercast> Try get it to slaughter all npcs
#2620 [18:29] <Kealper> lol
#2621 [18:30] <SkiingPenguins> http://penguinzone.servegame.com/MCH_PieSpy/minecrafthelp-current.png <- neat program i found
#2622 [18:30] <Mash> nevercast: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/mech-crowdcontrol-0-18-simple-creature-control-440.4073/
#2623 [18:30] <nevercast> Kealper, Yeah I can't even get online.
#2624 [18:31] <Mash> nevercast; with that plug you could just: /crowd nuke <type | all> <world>
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#2626 [18:31] <Kealper> lol @ the image
#2627 [18:31] <nevercast> Mash, Problem is we can't log in
#2628 [18:31] <Mash> nevercast; btw, have you cleared the log?
#2629 [18:31] <bozzolino> Hi guys, can anyone help me get minecraft started? I get "Could not start virtual machine"
#2630 [18:31] <Mash> bozzolino, install java?
#2631 [18:31] <Kealper> bozzolino: how much ram does your computer have?
#2632 [18:32] <Kealper> Mash: if he got that, he has java
#2633 [18:32] <bozzolino> Kealper : 2 Gb
#2634 [18:32] <Mash> Kealper, oh.
#2635 [18:32] <Mr_> lol @ SkiingPenguins
#2636 [18:32] * Mash quiets down.
#2636 [18:32] <Kealper> bozzolino: what are you using to launch the server? the exe or the jar?
#2637 [18:32] <bozzolino> The exe
#2638 [18:32] <Kealper> what OS?
#2639 [18:32] <bozzolino> Xp Sp2
#2640 [18:32] <Kealper> and do you have atleast 1GB of ram free?
#2641 [18:32] <Mash> SkiingPenguins, why'm I in the middle?
#2642 [18:33] <SkiingPenguins> Mash perhaps you were the most talked to
#2643 [18:33] <bozzolino> Kealper yep got 1.3 free
#2644 [18:33] <Mash> SkiingPenguins, I'm just cool like that. =D
#2645 [18:33] <Kealper> bozzolino: with or without the game client running? and when you started it, was the client running?
#2646 [18:33] <SkiingPenguins> Mash: in another channel i did it in, the local troll was in the middle because he talked to everyone :P
#2647 [18:34] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: how long did you have it running for?
#2648 [18:34] <bozzolino> Kealper I can't run the client if i try to open it i get that error so 1.3 without client open
#2649 [18:34] <Mash> I'm hurt by the insinuation I'm the chantroll.
#2650 [18:34] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper: ~12 minutes. it is SkiingPenguins2.. am i being against the rules? it doesnt log the chats only the NAME: thing people do when talking to others
#2651 [18:34] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper: i wanted to see who helped the most
#2652 [18:34] <Kealper> bozzolino: well, 2 gigs is really not enough ram do run a server and a client....download the jar and tell me when it's done downloading
#2653 [18:35] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: it's not against the rules to have that stuff in this channel, i just wanted to know becuase it does not have many names lol
#2654 [18:35] <bozzolino> Kealper i'm only tryn to run the single player mode. But you're the expert where do i get the jar?
#2655 [18:35] <Kealper> keep it logging, i kinda wanna see how that chart developes overnight lol
#2656 [18:35] <SkiingPenguins> alright ^.^
#2657 [18:35] <Kealper> !server
#2658 [18:37] <nevercast> Mash, I've rolled back the server to 8pm, 7th
#2659 [18:37] <Mash> Okay.
#2660 [18:37] <nevercast> Mash, Actually I think I rolled it to 8am.. derp
#2661 [18:37] <nevercast> Mash, Wanna come see if the server okay? Haven't lost any of your work
#2662 [18:37] <Mash> nevercast; even better.
#2663 [18:38] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper: this PieSpy thing fades away the users that arent talking, in this channel it'd be the people who arent helping others (people who connect to get help then disconnect when they are done being helped)
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#2665 [18:39] <iamweirdie> hey can somebody help me with wool color?
#2666 [18:39] <bozzolino> Kealper i got the server.jar and ran it opens ok
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#2668 [18:39] <bozzolino> Now what?
#2669 [18:39] <iamweirdie> according to the wiki, theres 5 wool colors from black to white; black, dark gray, gray, light gray, and white
#2670 [18:39] <iamweirdie> however i cant get dark gray
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#2672 [18:41] <Kealper> bozzolino: sorry, was responding to someone else
#2673 [18:41] <bozzolino> Kealper no worries :)
#2674 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> wait what?
#2675 [18:41] <Kealper> bozzolino: ok, do you have it saved in a good place?
#2676 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> There's white, light grey, dark grey, and black
#2677 [18:41] <bozzolino> Yeah
#2678 [18:41] <iamweirdie> GreyVulpine no middle grey?
#2679 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe so..
#2680 [18:42] <Kealper> bozzolino: ok, right click inside the folder that it's sitting in, and select New > text document
#2681 [18:42] <MerryYumekui> Hey, may I ask a really quick question?
#2682 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> White is just white, undyed, black is wool + inksac
#2683 [18:42] <Kealper> bozzolino: call the new text file start.bat
#2684 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> light grey is bone meal
#2685 [18:42] <SkiingPenguins> MerryYumekui: go ahead
#2686 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> dark grey is bone meal + inksac
#2687 [18:43] <bozzolino> Kealper ok done that
#2688 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> There is a "grey", as well as bith "light" and "dark"
#2689 [18:43] <MerryYumekui> Well, lets say I start a new world. Since I don't like my current one. Is there any way(Without itne editors) to get all my items and stuff?
#2690 [18:43] <Kealper> bozzolino: did it's icon change to a window with a gear in it?
#2691 [18:44] <bozzolino> Kealper oh wait i think i have to check folder options
#2692 [18:44] <bozzolino> Kealper Ok , done
#2693 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> MerryYumekui: Get all your items that you want to carry over, and have them on your person. Then copy over the player datfile.
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#2695 [18:44] <MerryYumekui> Thank yo DopeGhoti. :)
#2696 [18:44] <MerryYumekui> you*
#2697 [18:45] <Kealper> bozzolino: ok now, right click it and select Edit
#2698 [18:45] <Kealper> it should open up in a Notepad window
#2699 [18:45] <iamweirdie> DopeGhoti so there is a light, regular and dark grey?
#2700 [18:45] <jackknrsh7> hello all. any particular reason why random areas of my map are getting indestructible blocks, which fixes itsself when i restart the server
#2701 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> iamweirdie: I believe so
#2702 [18:46] <bozzolino> Kealper ok
#2703 [18:46] <Kealper> bozzolino: ok now, put inside that text file: java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2704 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> iamweirdie: confirmed- white, light grey, grey, gark grey, black.
#2705 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> s/gark/dark/
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#2707 [18:47] <bozzolino> Kealper Done :)
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#2709 [18:47] <iamweirdie> DopeGhoti i got white, black, dark grey, and light grey
#2710 [18:47] <Kealper> ok, save it, then double click it
#2711 [18:47] <Kealper> see if it starts right now
#2712 [18:47] <iamweirdie> i dont have middle grey
#2713 [18:48] <iamweirdie> i see gray and light gray
#2714 [18:48] <iamweirdie> no dark gray
#2715 [18:48] <bozzolino> Kealper the window opened and the server came online , now what
#2716 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> iamweirdie: grey: ink sac + bone meal. Light grey = grey + bone meal. dark gray: grey + ink sac
#2717 [18:49] <bozzolino> Kealper oh it works
#2718 [18:49] <Kealper> bozzolino: that's it, it's done lol
#2719 [18:49] <iamweirdie> DopeGhoti i got grey and ink sac, i put it in workbench nothin happen
#2720 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> Huh.
#2721 [18:49] <Kealper> just run that start.bat from now on when you want to start your server
#2722 [18:49] <iamweirdie> that chart might be wrong...
#2723 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> I'd get you a screenshot of dark grey, but I'm at work.
#2724 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> what chart?
#2725 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> I'm fairly sure there's only two greys
#2726 [18:49] <iamweirdie> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Redpoptarts_dye_guide_v12_full.png
#2727 [18:50] <iamweirdie> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Redpoptarts_dye_guide_v12_full.png
#2728 [18:50] <iamweirdie> http://mibpaste.com/ZMVBjR
#2729 [18:50] <iamweirdie> that's the chart im using
#2730 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> I don't think that chart is right...
#2731 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Even the wiki article for "dye" and "Wool" both say there's only 2 greys.
#2732 [18:52] <iamweirdie> ok..
#2733 [18:52] <iamweirdie> damn
#2734 [18:52] <iamweirdie> color difference between light and reg grey is a lot..
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#2738 [18:59] <omni-axiom> Hello, everyone!
#2739 [18:59] <omni-axiom> I have a question that may have an obvious answer
#2740 [18:59] <Mash> ??> omni-axiom ask
#2741 [18:59] <VoxelHead> omni-axiom: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2742 [18:59] <VoxelHead> omni-axiom: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2743 [19:00] <omni-axiom> Haha, alright. Well, this is regaring minecraft servers. A friend of mine was able to forward his ports and we've had some fun just building stuff together, you know, that kind of stuff. But it gets annoying when his computer isn't on and I want to get on the server. Is there a way to host a minecraft server "virtually"? That is to say, seperate from either of our computers
#2744 [19:00] <omni-axiom> ?
#2745 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> You can pay a server host to do it for you...
#2746 [19:01] <omni-axiom> Well, yeah, but let's assume here that we don't want to pay much for it. Is there a free way to do what I'm talking about?
#2747 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> There is no way to run a server without a machine being on
#2748 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Kinda need one to do the other
#2749 [19:02] <iamweirdie> ask ur friend for some kind of remote on button?
#2750 [19:02] <omni-axiom> Right. I get that. But there aren't any places where you can host a small file like the minecraft server file?
#2751 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Nope, not unless you pay a server host
#2752 [19:02] <omni-axiom> For free, perhaps?
#2753 [19:02] <omni-axiom> Okay
#2754 [19:02] <omni-axiom> I'll look into that, then. Where would you suggest I go looking for server hosts?
#2755 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is not a small (in terms of bandwidth usage) server..
#2756 [19:03] <iamweirdie> GreyVulpine maybe he can use some kind of remote server on button?
#2757 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Wake on LAN? perhaps.
#2758 [19:03] <iamweirdie> like a page online where u can flick the switch or somethin
#2759 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> He's going to need to set up the computer to accept that thought
#2760 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> though*
#2761 [19:03] <omni-axiom> Well, he's running it purely from his laptop. So it'd need to turn his entire computer on remotely
#2762 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Good luck doing that through a router though
#2763 [19:04] <omni-axiom> Haha
#2764 [19:04] <omni-axiom> I'll look into finding a server host with good rates
#2765 [19:04] <omni-axiom> Any suggestions?
#2766 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> There's a whole variety of hosts out there.
#2767 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> If you ask the AG guys here, AG_Elias and AG_Scott, Allgamer has pretty good rates.
#2768 [19:04] <omni-axiom> Allgamer. Okay, thanks
#2769 [19:04] <omni-axiom> Much appreciated
#2770 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Multiplay, a popular and big hosting site, also does minecraft
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#2772 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> There's also probably a few dozen other sites around as well.
#2773 [19:05] <omni-axiom> Allgamer and Multiplay. Doubly noted. I'll do some research of my own as well.
#2774 [19:05] <omni-axiom> Thanks a bunch (:
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#2778 [19:11] <aetherian> hey vial
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#2781 [19:22] <nevercast> aetherian: Do you know how to get torches onto fence?
#2782 [19:22] <aetherian> you want the short answer or the long answer
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#2784 [19:25] <Donaldini> Hey everyone, I got some problems loggin into the new minecraft lancher
#2785 [19:25] <Donaldini> After a format and reinstallation of the game I get a "User not premium" error
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#2787 [19:26] <Donaldini> anyone?
#2788 [19:28] <the_late_man> what
#2789 [19:29] <Donaldini> I got some problems loggin into the new minecraft lancher. After a format and reinstallation of the game I get a "User not premium" error
#2790 [19:29] <the_late_man> are you premium?
#2791 [19:29] <the_late_man> have you paid?
#2792 [19:30] <Donaldini> Yes, I paid in december, been playing ever since, after format a few weeks ago I reinstalled, and poof, no more :)
#2793 [19:31] <xales> Donaldini: what is your username
#2794 [19:32] <Donaldini> Donaldini on the site, but it could also be Donaldini87, don't know whether they need to be the same?
#2795 [19:32] <Donaldini> A disadvantage of using the "remember me" function )
#2796 [19:32] <xales> the username you use to log in with is the same as the one on the site, yes
#2797 [19:33] <Donaldini> I can login with Donaldini
#2798 [19:33] <xales> The user "Donaldini87" is premium, and "Donaldini" is not
#2799 [19:33] <Donaldini> really? Then I mustve made 2 accounts online?
#2800 [19:33] <xales> seems that way
#2801 [19:34] <Donaldini> I can login using Donaldini, but I cannot logout on the site.. mmm
#2802 [19:34] <xales> just use the download client
#2803 [19:35] <the_late_man> either something is afoot, or I'm lost.
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#2805 [19:37] <xales> the_late_man: you sir, are lost
#2806 [19:38] <NinjaKirby> Has anyone calculated the minimum water depth for maximum descent velocity?
#2807 [19:38] <xales> I believe at least 3 will save you from any fall
#2808 [19:38] <Donaldini> Because I was always auto-login' on the site using that wrong login, I couldn't get to the forgot password, I switched to safari and was able to reset password, hurray! Your all my personal heroes and I am a noob for not being able to fix it myself :D
#2809 [19:39] <xales> Donaldini: no problem; good you got it fixed
#2810 [19:39] <Donaldini> Thanks, off to playing now ;-)
#2811 [19:39] <NinjaKirby> Thank Xales, 4 appears to be keeping me safe anyways :)
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#2814 [19:41] <Maith> Hello
#2815 [19:41] <Maith> Anyone here?
#2816 [19:41] <xales> indeed
#2817 [19:41] <Maith> Anyone who could help me fast with setting up a server?
#2818 [19:41] <xales> what aspect of setting up a server?
#2819 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> "how do I do it?"
#2820 [19:42] <Maith> Just a "normal" server on my comp to play with a friend or 2
#2821 [19:42] <Maith> Nothing big
#2822 [19:42] <Maith> But it wont let me run the start server.bat file
#2823 [19:43] <Maith> And atm I fail at google :(
#2824 [19:43] <xales> are you trying to run a Beta server, or a Classic server
#2825 [19:43] <Maith> Beta, I believe
#2826 [19:43] <xales> the start.bat is for Classic
#2827 [19:43] <xales> you downloaded the wrong server
#2828 [19:43] <Maith> Meh
#2829 [19:43] <Maith> :(
#2830 [19:43] <xales> the correct one is on the same page you fould the client
#2831 [19:43] <xales> http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2832 [19:44] <Maith> Thankies
#2833 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> ?? requirements/lessrude
#2834 [19:44] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#2835 [19:44] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#2836 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> You'll want a system that meets those specs too, Maith
#2837 [19:44] <NinjaKirby> lol, less rude variant, amay-zed
#2838 [19:45] <Maith> Aye
#2839 [19:45] <Maith> Might have a problem with the bandwith
#2840 [19:45] <Maith> I'd say its worth a shot!
#2841 [19:45] <xales> DopeGhoti: have you seen it burst 200KB/s per-player? =/
#2842 [19:45] <xales> Maith: http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/
#2843 [19:45] <xales> I believe
#2844 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> xales: yes, usually at around connect-time or teleport-time.
#2845 [19:46] <Maith> Woo, maximum of 9 players, sounds like a 2man server can work! ;D
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#2847 [19:47] <Maith> Uh thats it?
#2848 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> well, that and awareness of how to set up port forwarding
#2849 [19:47] <xales> you will need to port forward, and if you have any personal firewall, you will want to turn that off
#2850 [19:47] <Maith> So where can I find what port it's using?
#2851 [19:48] <xales> 25565
#2852 [19:48] <Maith> Thanks
#2853 [19:48] <xales> TCP (though do both if possible)
#2854 [19:48] <Maith> Alright :)
#2855 [19:49] <Maith> Windows Firewall counts as personal I guess?
#2856 [19:49] <xales> you should turn it off, but probably don't need to
#2857 [19:49] <xales> Windows Firewall is garbage anyway, and just wastes resources
#2858 [19:50] <xales> and if you are behind a router, a firewall actually does 100% nothing
#2859 [19:50] <xales> because for all intents and purposes, the router acts as a firewall
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#2861 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> xales: no reason to enable UDP; Minecraft is strictly TCP
#2862 [19:50] <Maith> That made me feel a bit nervous, but its off!
#2863 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> xales: "100% nothing" may be overstating things once ports are forwarded
#2864 [19:51] <xales> DopeGhoti: if you forward the port, you intend for traffic to be allowed
#2865 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> But yes, NAT works as a fairly effective security layer.
#2866 [19:51] <xales> therefor, it would only get in your way at that point :)
#2867 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> xales: there's also the layer of security whereing you can say _this_ user can server on _that_ port, but only with _this_ binary.
#2868 [19:52] <Maith> Okay I have trouble finding my netmask
#2869 [19:52] <Maith> Halp >:/
#2870 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> All's I'm saying is that 100% is an overstatement.
#2871 [19:52] <xales> why would you need the subnet mask?
#2872 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Maith: indeed, you shouldn't need it.
#2873 [19:52] <Maith> So all they have to do is to connect to my ip?
#2874 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> yep
#2875 [19:52] <xales> if you port forwarded, yes
#2876 [19:53] <Maith> Any chance I can somehow check if I succeed with the port forwarding? :p
#2877 [19:53] <xales> just run it and have someone try to connect
#2878 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> Maith: use http://canyouseeme.org
#2879 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> punch in port 25565
#2880 [19:54] <Maith> Grr, Connection timed out
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#2882 [19:54] <Maith> So wait
#2883 [19:54] <Maith> its my.ip.w.a:25565
#2884 [19:54] <Maith> Right?
#2885 [19:54] <Maith> To connect to me
#2886 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> If it's port 25565, you don't need to add it to the end
#2887 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Just.your.i.p will do
#2888 [19:55] <Maith> Mm ok
#2889 [19:55] <xales> !check 90-227-209-72-no20.tbcn.telia.com
#2890 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: is there a canonical "example IP address" the like of 'example.com' serves for a canonical "example domain name"?
#2891 [19:56] <xales> DopeGhoti: 1.2.3.4?
#2892 [19:56] <Maith> woho
#2893 [19:56] <Maith> I made it
#2894 [19:56] <Maith> Cookie for me
#2895 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> xales: that's an actual IP.
#2896 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> 255.255.255.255?
#2897 [19:56] <xales> DopeGhoti: good luck finding who it is assigned to :P
#2898 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> example.com, for example, is reserved by IANA for usage in documentation as an example.
#2899 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> What's a good class D or something broadcast IP
#2900 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> xales: person: George Michaelson
#2901 [19:57] <Maith> I won, thanks for the help :D
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#2903 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> 255.255.255.255 is global multicast and is pretty much never used.
#2904 [19:57] <Maith> Hmm, does the server know I'm admin? Or do I have to change that in the server stuff?
#2905 [19:57] <xales> DopeGhoti: I mean...forget it ._.
#2906 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> Maith smp/opyourself
#2907 [19:57] <VoxelHead> Maith: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#2908 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> You'll have to add it to ops.txt
#2909 [19:57] <VoxelHead> Maith: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#2910 [19:58] <Maith> Will the 'op YOURNAME' give me constant admin or will I have to write it all the time?
#2911 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Maith: permenant
#2912 [19:59] <Maith> Meaning: easier to change in the ops.txt?
#2913 [19:59] <Maith> AWesome, ty
#2914 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> o/
#2915 [19:59] <Maith> I want a site with commands, like give me items and whatnot, also remove monsters and stuff
#2916 [20:00] <Maith> Any chance I can do that? I just wanna build in peace :(
#2917 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Type 'help' in the console
#2918 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> That'll give you command
#2919 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> s
#2920 [20:00] <Maith> oo sneaky :p
#2921 [20:00] <Maith> its late :(
#2922 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Also, look at the server.properties file for more stuff
#2923 [20:01] <Maith> With what program will that make it possible to read? Notepad failed
#2924 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> notepad should've been able to open it
#2925 [20:01] <lyude> i prefer vim
#2926 [20:01] <lyude> derp
#2927 [20:02] <lyude> [/xkcd joke]
#2928 [20:02] <Maith> Well it did open it ofc, but it was unreadable
#2929 [20:02] <Maith> Everything was just in one line :P
#2930 [20:02] <xales> use wordpad then
#2931 [20:02] <xales> notepad is garbage
#2932 [20:02] <xales> :)
#2933 [20:02] <Maith> [INFO] /213.112.171.220:50767 lost connection
#2934 [20:02] <Maith> Wai? =(
#2935 [20:02] <lyude> oh god, I was kidding about the vim thing
#2936 [20:02] <Maith> x)
#2937 [20:02] <lyude> As long as no one mentions emacs...
#2938 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> actually, vim is my preferred text edtor
#2939 [20:03] <Kealper> I ROLL WITH EMACS FOR MY WORD DOCUMENTS
#2940 [20:03] * xales kicked Kealper from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: GTFO)
#2941 [20:03] <lyude> xDDD
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#2943 [20:03] <xales> <2
#2944 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: only escape-meta-alt-control-shift would be able to deal with word docs anyhow :p
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#2947 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> not even _Word_ can handle word doce.
#2948 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> docs, even
#2949 [20:03] <lyude> Libreoffice for word
#2950 [20:03] <Kealper> lol
#2951 [20:03] <lyude> For text
#2952 [20:03] <lyude> nano or gedit
#2953 [20:03] <Maith> Guys, why can I join my server (duh, on my comp I know) but my friend just looses connection? Does that mean my bandwith aint enough?
#2954 [20:04] <xales> Maith: what error does your friend see?
#2955 [20:04] <Maith> BAd Login, failed to log in
#2956 [20:04] <xales> what is your friend's username?
#2957 [20:04] <Maith> Pl4yground (no, Im not 13 :( )
#2958 [20:04] <xales> well, there you go
#2959 [20:05] <xales> your friend cannot play with you
#2960 [20:05] <xales> they have a pirated version of Minecraft
#2961 [20:05] <Maith> How did you seethat? =o
#2962 [20:05] <xales> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=Pl4yground
#2963 [20:06] <Maith> Ha
#2964 [20:06] <Maith> What a dick
#2965 [20:06] <Maith> So much effort!
#2966 [20:07] <Maith> server.properties = where I change monster spawns and stuff ,right?
#2967 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2968 [20:07] <Maith> Coolio
#2969 [20:07] <Maith> But I want daylight all the time, cant find it? =(
#2970 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> ??> Maith smp/needlogin
#2971 [20:07] <VoxelHead> Maith: (smp/needlogin) If you get the message "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!" when joining a server, you are attempting to join a Classic server.
#2972 [20:07] <Kealper> can't set that
#2973 [20:07] <VoxelHead> Maith: (smp/needlogin) If you are running the server, you downloaded the wrong software. The correct software is on the same page where you download the client.
#2974 [20:07] <xales> it's not a default option
#2975 [20:07] <xales> and DopeGhoti wrong error, :P
#2976 [20:08] <nevercast> lol.
#2977 [20:08] <nevercast> Maith, You can't make it day all the time
#2978 [20:08] <nevercast> Maith, not by default
#2979 [20:08] <Maith> But I have as server and its awesome!
#2980 [20:08] <Maith> Aww
#2981 [20:08] <Maith> Nighttime scares me =(
#2982 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Maith: tell your friend to buy the game.
#2983 [20:08] <Maith> I am
#2984 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Server ops now have the /time command
#2985 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> or to have their mom buy the game for them.
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#2987 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> So once dusk sets, you can /time it back to dawn
#2988 [20:09] <Maith> "Im too poor, I dont have a job, I dont want a job, I've been without a job for 2 years, Im a cockface"
#2989 [20:09] <Maith> You know the deal
#2990 [20:09] <Maith> :(
#2991 [20:09] <Jackson413> i screwed this
#2992 [20:09] <Jackson413> the java thing works
#2993 [20:09] <Jackson413> port is screwed uup
#2994 [20:09] <Jackson413> can i link a screenie of it?
#2995 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> Maith: make more mature friends?
#2996 [20:10] <Maith> Souds like a very good pla
#2997 [20:10] <Maith> n
#2998 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> Straw poll: I have prepurchased Crysis 2. Should I feel bad for thinging about.. "investigating" the leaked build?
#2999 [20:10] <Jackson413> NO
#3000 [20:10] <Jackson413> fight the machine
#3001 [20:11] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: do you have the demo?
#3002 [20:11] <Maith> Uh btw, If I want to run the server on a dedicated server, is it this simple to set it up as well?
#3003 [20:11] <xales> define "dedicated server"
#3004 [20:11] <Maith> Uh
#3005 [20:11] <xales> do you mean something like a "Minecraft Server" where you just run Minecraft on someone else's server
#3006 [20:11] <Maith> Running on a server server,
#3007 [20:12] <xales> or do you mean a real dedicated server where you lease a physical server
#3008 [20:12] <Maith> Well, say it's my server
#3009 [20:12] <Jackson413> a dedicated server legit or not so much>?
#3010 [20:12] <Maith> ^ that one
#3011 [20:12] <Kealper> Maith: depends on the OS that is installed on it
#3012 [20:12] <Jackson413> nice
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#3014 [20:12] <xales> if you have experience administrating real servers, yes
#3015 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Yes.
#3016 [20:12] <xales> if you do not, I reccomend against it
#3017 [20:12] <Jackson413> anyone wanna be jealous
#3018 [20:12] <Maith> Say by some shitty reason its windows on it, its this simple?
#3019 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> It runs surprisingly well given the new engine and all
#3020 [20:12] <Jackson413> my friend has a computer with 32 gb ram
#3021 [20:12] <Jackson413> sadly its a mac
#3022 [20:12] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: add "Kealper" to your friends list on it, then stand there while i own you >:D
#3023 [20:13] <xales> Maith: it would be just the same as running it on your desktop
#3024 [20:13] <Maith> Mm ok :)
#3025 [20:13] <xales> however, you would be able to achieve significantly better performance if you were not running Windows on it (:
#3026 [20:13] <Jackson413> when i grow up
#3027 [20:13] <Jackson413> im going to get a fiber optics connectiong
#3028 [20:13] <Jackson413> and just have minecraft on it
#3029 [20:14] <xales> I have one already, and I'm only almost-21
#3030 [20:14] <xales> \o/
#3031 [20:14] <Jackson413> xales im 16
#3032 [20:14] <xales> also
#3033 [20:14] <Maith> Is it hard do administrate "real servers"? =(
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#3035 [20:14] <xales> fiber connection is fast for residential
#3036 [20:14] <Maith> Would love to have one with fiber, big-ass server!
#3037 [20:14] <PwndByChips> Hello all
#3038 [20:14] <xales> on the Internet, you would be hard-pressed to find a copper business line
#3039 [20:14] <Jackson413> my dad used to work at a telemunications (not sure if i spelled that right) building
#3040 [20:15] <xales> Maith: depends on the OS, your experience, where the server is
#3041 [20:15] <xales> hello PwndByChips
#3042 [20:15] <Jackson413> upload speed was 65 mbs
#3043 [20:15] <xales> that's not a lot
#3044 [20:15] <xales> well
#3045 [20:15] <Jackson413> that was back in 2004
#3046 [20:15] <Jackson413> that is amazing
#3047 [20:15] <xales> that's not impressive
#3048 [20:15] <Jackson413> in '04?
#3049 [20:15] <xales> for residential? sure
#3050 [20:15] <Jackson413> no
#3051 [20:15] <xales> for business/datacenter? hell no
#3052 [20:15] <Jackson413> he worked for worldcom
#3053 [20:15] * Jackson413 awaits a joke about worldcom
#3053 [20:16] <Maith> MY experience, well I have to start somewhere? :p
#3054 [20:16] <xales> my server can hit 100mbps for an entire month, should I have a desire to do that
#3055 [20:16] <Jackson413> if you can afford it
#3056 [20:16] <PwndByChips> Can we ask for help with plugins on this channeL/
#3057 [20:16] <xales> Maith: start with a VPS then, it's cheaper, and if you screw up, it takes 30 minutes to reset
#3058 [20:16] <Jackson413> you can pm me and ill help you
#3059 [20:16] <xales> PwndByChips: Bukkit plugins?
#3060 [20:16] <PwndByChips> Yeah
#3061 [20:16] <xales> #bukkit for that
#3062 [20:16] <PwndByChips> alright
#3063 [20:16] <Jackson413> PwndByChips: pm me
#3064 [20:16] * xales kicked Jackson413 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Please obey the channel policy)
#3065 [20:16] <PwndByChips> erm how do i change
#3066 [20:16] <xales> /join #bukkit
#3067 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Easy there xales
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#3069 [20:17] <PwndByChips> Jackson, can you pm me
#3070 [20:17] <PwndByChips> not quite sure where ur name is
#3071 [20:17] <xales> GreyVulpine: I've asked him not to do that several times
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#3073 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> While we don't provide support for plugins, there's nothing preventing others who know about them to help
#3074 [20:17] <Jackson413> my appologies
#3075 [20:17] <Jackson413> wont happen again
#3076 [20:17] <PwndByChips> Welcoem back
#3077 [20:17] <Jackson413> forgive me please
#3078 [20:17] <xales> Jackson413: I understand you want to help, but asking everyone to PM you isn't the purpose of the channel
#3079 [20:17] <Jackson413> for plugins though
#3080 [20:17] <Jackson413> i thought it wasnt supported
#3081 [20:18] <Jackson413> i am sorry and i regret it
#3082 [20:18] <xales> It's not officially supported, but if you want to help, go ahead
#3083 [20:18] <Jackson413> within the channel?
#3084 [20:18] <xales> it means we will not help you; it does not mean others cannot
#3085 [20:18] <xales> talking about plugins or mods is fine
#3086 [20:18] <Jackson413> can someone tell me if this is forwarded correctly?
#3087 [20:18] <xales> we just won't help with it :)
#3088 [20:18] <Jackson413> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ut146g&s=7
#3089 [20:19] <xales> if you are trying to forward incoming port 25565 to port 25567 on your computer, yes
#3090 [20:19] <Jackson413> yeah
#3091 [20:19] <Jackson413> i mean i could have 3 servers that way
#3092 [20:19] <Jackson413> but i still cant connect
#3093 [20:19] <Jackson413> this is a friends computer btw
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#3095 [20:20] <xales> uh...it doesn't really work like that
#3096 [20:20] <xales> you can't host more than one server on one port, on one IP, period
#3097 [20:20] <Jackson413> yeah
#3098 [20:20] <Jackson413> if i change the port #
#3099 [20:21] <Jackson413> in server properties
#3100 [20:21] <xales> if you change the port number to 25567, then you can forward 25567 to 25567, I'm not sure why you would want to forward 25565 to 25567
#3101 [20:21] <Jackson413> run a server on 25566
#3102 [20:21] <xales> when you could just forward 25565 to 25565 and avoid the confusion
#3103 [20:22] <Jackson413> and 25567
#3104 [20:22] <Maith> Dude, read what he just said :p
#3105 [20:22] <xales> Maith: I did
#3106 [20:22] <Maith> I ment Jackson
#3107 [20:22] <Maith> Sorry for the confusion ^^
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#3109 [20:22] <xales> Jackson413: you can't forward incoming port 25565 to more than one destination, which is what it sounds to me like what you are trying to do
#3110 [20:22] <xales> Maith: I understood what you meant
#3111 [20:23] <WoM-Guest> hi
#3112 [20:23] <Jackson413> no
#3113 [20:23] <Jackson413> if i run a server on 25565
#3114 [20:23] <Jackson413> and at the same time run one on 25566
#3115 [20:23] <Jackson413> on the same ip
#3116 [20:23] <Jackson413> that will work no?
#3117 [20:23] <xales> yes
#3118 [20:23] <WoM-Guest> i have a problem with a minecraft server if someone can help me
#3119 [20:23] <xales> but why...forget about it, nevermind
#3120 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Sure, if you forward port 25565 to the one running on 25565
#3121 [20:23] <xales> WoM-Guest: what problem would that be?
#3122 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> And forward another port 25566 to 25566
#3123 [20:23] <Jackson413> i have
#3124 [20:23] <Jackson413> but i still cant connect
#3125 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> That works
#3126 [20:24] <xales> Jackson413: you forwarded port 25565 to port 25567
#3127 [20:24] <Jackson413> oh shit
#3128 [20:24] <Jackson413> well
#3129 [20:24] * Jackson413 cuts wriss
#3129 [20:24] <WoM-Guest> me and my friend are on the same router but wen we try to connect to a different friends server elsewhere one of us can connect but it disconnects the other
#3130 [20:24] <Kealper> /wrists
#3131 [20:24] <xales> WoM-Guest: are you both trying to use the same account?
#3132 [20:24] <WoM-Guest> nope
#3133 [20:25] <xales> what error do you see
#3134 [20:25] <WoM-Guest> ill check
#3135 [20:25] <WoM-Guest> brb
#3136 [20:26] <WoM-Guest> oh its working now lol
#3137 [20:26] <WoM-Guest> thanks anyway
#3138 [20:26] <Maith> Uhm
#3139 [20:26] <Maith> How do I give myself like unlimited ammount of say, red blocks?
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#3141 [20:26] <Maith> Or whatever colored blocks I might be able to get :D
#3142 [20:26] <xales> Maith: if you are opped, you can use the command "/give (name) (item id) (amount)" to get items
#3143 [20:27] <xales> however, you can't get colored wool through that
#3144 [20:27] <Maith> But I can get wool+dye?
#3145 [20:27] <xales> correct
#3146 [20:27] <Jackson413> if the notch fairy came in your dreams and offered to have one bug fixed, what would it be?
#3147 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Redstone
#3148 [20:27] <Kealper> rain/snow
#3149 [20:28] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper, "REDSTONE!"
#3149 [20:28] <Maith> Problem 2: item id? Where do find? and question 2: amount = 64? Or can I use the /give to make a waaaay bigger stock?
#3150 [20:28] <Kealper> redstone is annoying at times, but rain/snow has been broke since biomes were added
#3151 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#3152 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Use "Dec" value
#3153 [20:28] <Maith> Again - ty :D
#3154 [20:28] <Kealper> dope needs to get on crysis 2
#3155 [20:29] <Maith> So say for wool, that would be "/give Maithus Regular wool 10000"
#3156 [20:29] <Maith> In the server console?
#3157 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> max in a stack is 64
#3158 [20:29] <Jackson413> i think i would have boats fixed
#3159 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> and wool's item id is 35.. isn't it?
#3160 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it is
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#3162 [20:30] <Maith> But, how?
#3163 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> /give Maith 35 64
#3164 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> That'll give you 64 of wool
#3165 [20:30] <Maith> Aaah, so Ihave to use the picture, makes more sense, I was checking at the wool category :P
#3166 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Max in a stack is usually 64
#3167 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> food items are one, eggs are 16..
#3168 [20:31] <Maith> Aye I know that, just wondered if I was able to give myself more :p
#3169 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Not with the vanilla server
#3170 [20:31] <Maith> Mm ok :)
#3171 [20:32] <Maith> Andfor items, like axes?
#3172 [20:32] <Maith> just 1?
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#3174 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the axe
#3175 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#3176 [20:33] <xales> You can spawn more than one of the item
#3177 [20:33] <xales> they will "bug" and be stacked together
#3178 [20:33] <xales> (somewhat)
#3179 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> kinda, yeah
#3180 [20:33] <Maith> Ah ok
#3181 [20:35] <Maith> I wanna make it light and seriously am to stupid to figure how to use the time command, any help? =p
#3182 [20:36] <nevercast> Maith, /time set 0
#3183 [20:36] <Maith> Tanks <3
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#3185 [20:36] <Maith> +h
#3186 [20:40] <Maith> Is there someway to like, get the music to loop better? Also can I somehow toggle through what I've said in the game? Writing the same line over and over is like, super hardcore :P
#3187 [20:40] <relsqui> you could just not spam >_>
#3188 [20:40] <xales> you can write it in another program and paste it over and over
#3189 [20:41] <Maith> So Im in a help channel and being accused of spamming? Im terribly sorry, Sir
#3190 [20:41] <nevercast> Maith: Not what relsqui meant
#3191 [20:41] <relsqui> er, yeah, not here
#3192 [20:41] <nevercast> Maith: He meant not spam your minecraft terminal
#3193 [20:41] <relsqui> :P
#3194 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> Maith: Just learn to be hardcore.
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#3196 [20:41] <nevercast> ^
#3197 [20:41] <Maith> :(
#3198 [20:41] <nevercast> Maith, and no, The music is bugged.
#3199 [20:41] <Maith> Ah ok
#3200 [20:42] <nevercast> Flaws of Beta.
#3201 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> ^Zbg
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#3206 [20:47] <Jackson413> im still not working right
#3207 [20:48] <Jackson413> i have the port forwarded
#3208 [20:48] <Jackson413> it will not let me connect
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#3210 [20:48] <Jackson413> !check 67.174.247.101
#3211 [20:48] <Jackson413> AuBot: fuck you
#3212 [20:49] <Maith> Hey I figured
#3213 [20:49] <Maith> Is there any way I can come over the music? So I still can listen to it while I play?
#3214 [20:49] <Jackson413> !check 67.174.247.101
#3215 [20:49] <Jackson413> damnit!
#3216 [20:49] <Maith> 'cause I just love the music :>
#3217 [20:49] <xales> Maith: actually, it was recently released as an album
#3218 [20:50] <xales> you can listen online, or buy it and download it
#3219 [20:50] <Maith> seriously?
#3220 [20:50] <xales> yup
#3221 [20:50] <Jackson413> xakes?
#3222 [20:50] <xales> http://c418.bandcamp.com/album/minecraft-volume-alpha
#3223 [20:50] <xales> Jackson413: yes?
#3224 [20:50] <Maith> Its on spotify!
#3225 [20:50] <Maith> Awesome <3
#3226 [20:51] <Jackson413> xales: i still cant get it to work
#3227 [20:51] <Jackson413> prot is forwarded
#3228 [20:51] <Jackson413> server is set to 255565
#3229 [20:51] <Jackson413> 25565
#3230 [20:51] <xales> is it forwarded to 25565 or 25567
#3231 [20:52] <Jackson413> 25565
#3232 [20:52] <Jackson413> to 25565
#3233 [20:52] <xales> and you didn't put anything on the server-ip= line, yes?
#3234 [20:53] <Jackson413> nothing there
#3235 [20:53] <xales> and the server is running, right?
#3236 [20:53] <Jackson413> yes
#3237 [20:53] <xales> you forwarded it to the correct local IP, and firewall is disabled?
#3238 [20:53] <Jackson413> firewall?
#3239 [20:53] <Jackson413> windows firewall
#3240 [20:53] <xales> turn it off
#3241 [20:54] <Maith> Urm, in the DAtaValuesBeta.png website you gave me for numbers, the ones in red saying "only cheats/server commands" means the /give command, right?
#3242 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> yes
#3243 [20:54] <Maith> kool, ty
#3244 [20:54] <Jackson413> add an exeption
#3245 [20:54] <xales> no, turn it off
#3246 [20:54] <xales> besides; Windows Firewall is laughable at bet
#3247 [20:54] <xales> best*
#3248 [20:54] <Jackson413> this is win7
#3249 [20:54] <xales> and if you are behind a router, you do not need a firewall
#3250 [20:54] <Jackson413> isnt it better?
#3251 [20:54] <xales> no
#3252 [20:54] <xales> Windows Firewall sucks, always has
#3253 [20:55] <xales> and again, if you are behind a router
#3254 [20:55] <xales> it does 99% nothing
#3255 [20:55] <xales> the only 1% is blocking things you want to use
#3256 [20:55] <Jackson413> wont it bug me about it being off?
#3257 [20:55] <xales> not if you tell it not to
#3258 [20:56] <SkiingPenguins> i told UAC to S.T.F.U. and it did
#3259 [20:56] * nevercast has successfully created a .NET Database Engine with no external dependencies
#3259 [20:57] * xales busy; goes
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#3260 [20:57] <Lannyboy> I cant get the game to download
#3261 [20:57] <xales> why not?
#3262 [20:58] <Maith> Does the server autosave by default?
#3263 [20:58] <Lannyboy> not sure never had the problem with anyother game
#3264 [20:58] <xales> Maith: yes
#3265 [20:58] <xales> Lannyboy: well, what exactly is the problem
#3266 [20:58] <Maith> coolio
#3267 [20:59] * xales waits
#3267 [20:59] <Lannyboy> im running Mozilla Firefox 4.0 and it goes to the download list and when i click on it nothing happens doesnt bring up a set up window or anything
#3268 [21:00] <nevercast> Lannyboy: Do you have Java?
#3269 [21:00] <Lannyboy> yes
#3270 [21:00] <Mash> nevercast; I'm back.
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#3272 [21:00] <xales> Lannyboy: are you able to play by going to http://minecraft.net/game/
#3273 [21:01] <Lannyboy> no i havent played the game i was told you could download and play the classic version for free?
#3274 [21:01] <Lannyboy> bought*
#3275 [21:01] <xales> the download is Beta
#3276 [21:01] <xales> which is not free
#3277 [21:02] <xales> you get to classic by clicking the "Single Player" link under "Classic (outdated but free)"
#3278 [21:02] <xales> Classic does not have a download
#3279 [21:02] <Lannyboy> okay it does save though right? im just wanting to do a trail run before buying
#3280 [21:03] <xales> Classic and Beta are very different games
#3281 [21:03] <relsqui> classic, the one you can play for free, does not save anything
#3282 [21:03] <relsqui> it's in-browser only
#3283 [21:03] <Lannyboy> oh it dont save
#3284 [21:04] <Lannyboy> Hmmm i'd really like to do a trial run before buying the game, Noone wants to pay for a game their not sure their gonna like
#3285 [21:05] <Mash> Lannyboy, with as popular as the game is, and as vibrant as the communities are, it's a fairly safe bet you'll like it.
#3286 [21:05] <Mash> Lannyboy, especially if you've already found your way here. Not to mention, the game /is/ half the price of a traditional game.
#3287 [21:05] <xales> Lannyboy: I'd suggest watching this
#3288 [21:05] <xales> !tutorial
#3289 [21:05] <xales> ^that
#3290 [21:06] * Mash watches too.
#3290 [21:06] <xales> anyway
#3291 [21:06] <Lannyboy> okay
#3292 [21:06] * xales has to go now
#3292 [21:06] * xales goes
#3292 [21:06] <nevercast> bye xales!!
#3293 [21:06] <Mash> later xales
#3294 [21:06] * nevercast waves
#3294 [21:06] <nevercast> Mash, I have created a Database Engine
#3295 [21:06] <Mash> k?
#3296 [21:06] <nevercast> I shall call it NBash lol.
#3297 [21:06] <nevercast> *NBase
#3298 [21:06] <Mash> oh, aw
#3299 [21:06] <nevercast> NeverCasts Database...
#3300 [21:06] <Mash> I liked the first better.
#3301 [21:06] <nevercast> LOL!
#3302 [21:06] <nevercast> NBash?
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#3304 [21:08] <GoodmanHR> hi
#3305 [21:08] <GoodmanHR> i need some help
#3306 [21:09] <Mash> ??> GoodmanHR ask
#3307 [21:09] <VoxelHead> GoodmanHR: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3308 [21:09] <GoodmanHR> i want to know to get on the whitelist
#3309 [21:09] <VoxelHead> GoodmanHR: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3310 [21:09] <GoodmanHR> how*
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#3312 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> To get on a particular server's whitelist, you'll have to contact that server's admin to do so
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#3314 [21:10] <GoodmanHR> ok! there is no master whitelist
#3315 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Depending on the server, you may have to make a forum post, or go on their website, or email/PM/contact the person maintaining the server
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#3317 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> No, there is no master whitelist
#3318 [21:10] <GoodmanHR> kk
#3319 [21:10] <GoodmanHR> thx for your help!
#3320 [21:10] <Jackson413> !check 67.174.247.101
#3321 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm
#3322 [21:10] <Jackson413> hmm
#3323 [21:10] <Jackson413> oh wait
#3324 [21:10] <Jackson413> now
#3325 [21:10] <Jackson413> 67.174.247.101
#3326 [21:11] <Jackson413> !check 67.174.247.101
#3327 [21:11] <Jackson413> fuck
#3328 [21:11] <nevercast> GreyVulpine: What would you have a bot store on users? I'm making the database user table for my bot and am wondering what fields to add.
#3329 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#3330 [21:11] <Lannyboy> i think ill like it thank you for your help i appreciate it
#3331 [21:11] <Jackson413> !check 67.174.247.101
#3332 [21:11] <Jackson413> ahhhg
#3333 [21:12] <Jackson413> what is wrong with this
#3334 [21:12] <Jackson413> firewall off
#3335 [21:12] <Mash> Random question for the chan; farm animals can spawn on grass- can they only spawn on (or next to) grass? ie. gravel blocks spawning?
#3336 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure farm animals can only spawn on grass
#3337 [21:13] <Mash> There needs to be a lawn block.
#3338 [21:13] <Mash> Srsly.
#3339 [21:13] <Mash> No cows on the lawn D:<
#3340 [21:14] <Jackson413> grey
#3341 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3342 [21:15] <Jackson413> can you help me
#3343 [21:15] <Jackson413> ive forwarded the right port
#3344 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> With?
#3345 [21:15] <Jackson413> running a server
#3346 [21:15] <Jackson413> setting it up
#3347 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> This your first time?
#3348 [21:15] <Jackson413> no
#3349 [21:15] <Jackson413> but im helping a friend
#3350 [21:15] <Jackson413> via skype
#3351 [21:16] <Jackson413> ports forwarded
#3352 [21:16] <Jackson413> firewall off
#3353 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you verify for me, his network setup, starting from his computer's ip?
#3354 [21:17] <Jackson413> 67.174.247.101
#3355 [21:17] <Jackson413> then to a router
#3356 [21:17] <Jackson413> that is it
#3357 [21:17] <nevercast> What is the router IP
#3358 [21:17] <nevercast> and the computer IP
#3359 [21:17] <Jackson413> computer
#3360 [21:17] <Jackson413> 67.174.247.101
#3361 [21:18] <nevercast> wrong
#3362 [21:18] <nevercast> Private address
#3363 [21:18] <Jackson413> oh wait
#3364 [21:18] <Jackson413> i have it somewhere
#3365 [21:18] <nevercast> :)
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#3367 [21:19] <Jackson413> 192.168.1.102
#3368 [21:19] <Jackson413> router ip is192.68.1.1
#3369 [21:19] <Jackson413> minus the herp
#3370 [21:19] <Jackson413> 192.168.1.1
#3371 [21:20] <xales> and what is the router's external IP
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#3373 [21:20] <xales> "WAN IP"
#3374 [21:20] <Jackson413> not sure
#3375 [21:20] <Jackson413> shit hes afk for a bit
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#3377 [21:27] <nevercast> xales, look up
#3378 [21:27] <nevercast> xales, he !check'd it a few times
#3379 [21:29] <Jackson413> ok
#3380 [21:29] <Jackson413> now how to figure out router ip
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#3383 [21:30] <Jackson413> how do i do it?
#3384 [21:31] <Jackson413> ???
#3385 [21:31] * Jackson413 feels lonely
#3385 [21:31] * SkiingPenguins feels lonely too
#3385 [21:31] <Jackson413> xales: you there?
#3386 [21:31] * DekaPink offers hugs? X)
#3386 [21:32] <Jackson413> nevercast: dude?
#3387 [21:33] <Mash> .:Jackson413:. 67.174.247.101
#3388 [21:33] <Jackson413> that is the host ip
#3389 [21:34] <Jackson413> isnt it?
#3390 [21:34] <Mash> Jackson413, your IP is in your ident; chatzilla@cpe-24-210-28-18.columbus.res.rr.com
#3391 [21:34] <Mash> 24.210.28.18
#3392 [21:34] <Jackson413> im hlping a friend
#3393 [21:34] <Mash> !check 24.210.28.18
#3394 [21:34] <Jackson413> i know that
#3395 [21:34] <Jackson413> im helping a friend
#3396 [21:35] <Mash> Have your friend come into the channel, middlemen just make shit harder.
#3397 [21:35] <Jackson413> he doesnt know how to use it
#3398 [21:35] <Mash> How to use what, IRC?
#3399 [21:35] <Jackson413> yeah
#3400 [21:36] <Mash> Jackson413, send him this link and tell him to click.
#3401 [21:36] <Mash> http://chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.esper.net&channel=%23MineCraftHelp
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#3403 [21:38] <SkiingPenguins> there ye goes
#3404 [21:38] <SkiingPenguins> thats how i'd have done it a while ago
#3405 [21:38] <Jackson413> lol working on it
#3406 [21:38] <Mash> SkiingPenguins, having him come into irc himself?
#3407 [21:38] <SkiingPenguins> yes
#3408 [21:40] <ferminter> hello!
#3409 [21:40] <Mash> Hello ferminter
#3410 [21:41] <ferminter> hey Mash
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#3413 [21:42] <Jackson413> i think he is in it
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#3415 [21:42] <Mash> Which one is him?
#3416 [21:42] <Jackson413> not sure
#3417 [21:42] <Mash> .. Ask him? >,>;
#3418 [21:42] <ferminter> im alexandeerr
#3419 [21:42] <tom1234> how can i change my minecraft account email address
#3420 [21:42] <Jackson413> there we go
#3421 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> tom1234 - That's not possible right now
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#3423 [21:43] <Jackson413> ferminter is the guy
#3424 [21:43] <MCMAUser_955> hi
#3425 [21:43] <Mash> ferminter, what's the problem you're having now?
#3426 [21:43] <Mash> hello MCMAUser_955
#3427 [21:43] <Jackson413> i cannot connect
#3428 [21:43] <Matttttthew> Did I hear Minecraft?
#3429 [21:43] <tom1234> when will it???
#3430 [21:43] <Jackson413> he is gonna be the new host
#3431 [21:43] <Matttttthew> Yes the site is down
#3432 [21:43] <Mash> Jackson413, aaah, alright.
#3433 [21:43] <tom1234> mine that its under i cant get to any more
#3434 [21:43] <MCMAUser_955> when i try to log into my server it say i am not premium
#3435 [21:43] <tom1234> and i think its hacked
#3436 [21:43] <Jackson413> he can connect via localhost
#3437 [21:44] <AG_Scott> MCMAUser_955, what's your username?
#3438 [21:44] <Mash> ferminter, So you need to forward ports and add an exception to your windows firewall then.
#3439 [21:44] <MCMAUser_955> who me?
#3440 [21:44] <Jackson413> firewall is off
#3441 [21:44] <AG_Scott> yes, what is your username MCMAUser_955?
#3442 [21:44] <Mash> Jackson413, that makes life easier.
#3443 [21:44] <Jackson413> it does indeed
#3444 [21:44] <MCMAUser_955> opabanz
#3445 [21:44] <Mash> Jackson413, so he just needs ports forwarded then?
#3446 [21:44] <Jackson413> ports are forwarded
#3447 [21:44] <AG_Scott> !paid opabanz
#3448 [21:44] <MCMAUser_955> ?
#3449 [21:45] * Mash snickers.
#3449 [21:45] <AG_Scott> Are the authentication servers down?
#3450 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3451 [21:45] <Mash> !paid Mashuga
#3452 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> !paid greyvulpine
#3453 [21:45] <Mash> Botcrash.
#3454 [21:45] <AG_Scott> !paid ScottDK
#3455 [21:45] <MCMAUser_955> so i need to buy for it to work?
#3456 [21:45] <Jackson413> !paid Notch
#3457 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes MCMAUser_955
#3458 [21:45] <AG_Scott> Well if you haven't already bought the game, yes.
#3459 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> That's kinda the point of being a premium user
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#3461 [21:45] <Jackson413> so mash
#3462 [21:45] <Jackson413> any idea what we are derping on?
#3463 [21:45] <tom1234> Will it be posible to change your email in the near future???
#3464 [21:45] <MCMAUser_955> so 15 dollars a month and another 15 dollars -.-
#3465 [21:45] <SkiingPenguins> no
#3466 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> 15 bucks a month?
#3467 [21:46] <Mash> Jackson413, so if ports are forwarded and the firewall is disabled, what help do you need? lol
#3468 [21:46] <AG_Scott> He bought a server.
#3469 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is a one-time only fee
#3470 [21:46] <MCMAUser_955> to run this server
#3471 [21:46] <SkiingPenguins> oh
#3472 [21:46] <Jackson413> Mash: it wont work
#3473 [21:46] <Jackson413> Mash: im not sure
#3474 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Ah, well then, yeah
#3475 [21:46] <AG_Scott> The game and server hosting are separate.
#3476 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to buy minecraft to be able to play it
#3477 [21:46] <MCMAUser_955> sigh
#3478 [21:46] <MCMAUser_955> thank you for help
#3479 [21:47] <Jackson413> Mash: can you help me?
#3480 [21:47] <Mash> Jackson413, you guys borked one of the only two necessary steps. Ports and Windows Firewall (I don't even know why it's ever enabled to begin with)
#3481 [21:47] <Jackson413> i know but what
#3482 [21:47] <Jackson413> ferminter: you still there?
#3483 [21:47] <ferminter> yep
#3484 [21:47] <Mash> Jackson413, have him enable remote administration of his router and I'll make sure it's set up properly.
#3485 [21:47] <AG_Scott> Well that was silly.
#3486 [21:48] <Jackson413> how to do that?
#3487 [21:48] <Mash> !check 67.174.247.101
#3488 [21:48] <Mash> ferminter, your router's address is 192.168.1.1 I'm assuming?
#3489 [21:49] <Jackson413> it is
#3490 [21:49] <Mash> ferminter, if so, enter that into your browser's address bar and press enter.
#3491 [21:49] <Jackson413> ive had him do that
#3492 [21:49] <Mash> ferminter, log in if necessary and locate the administration page.
#3493 [21:49] <Mash> ferminter, there should be an option labled "Remote Maintenance" or similar.
#3494 [21:51] <ferminter> i need to change the password
#3495 [21:51] <ferminter> how is that done?
#3496 [21:51] <Mash> ferminter, set it to something that you don't mind giving me so I can verify your settings.
#3497 [21:51] <ferminter> how do i change it
#3498 [21:52] <Mash> ferminter, in the Administration page, you should see a password text-box that you can use to set your password.
#3499 [21:52] <Jackson413> leave it to admin for now
#3500 [21:52] <Jackson413> so he may access it
#3501 [21:52] <Jackson413> then change it
#3502 [21:52] <ferminter> i cant leave it
#3503 [21:52] <ferminter> i need to change it
#3504 [21:52] <Mash> ferminter; After I verify your ports are forwarded properly, I'll disable remote administration on my way out to make sure your setup is still secure.
#3505 [21:53] <Mash> ferminter, do you know what model router you have? I might be able to look up specifics.
#3506 [21:53] <ferminter> linksys gaming router
#3507 [21:54] <Mash> ferminter, So a linksys WRT330N?
#3508 [21:55] <Mash> ferminter; I'm downloading the manual for your router now, give me just a moment please.
#3509 [21:55] <ferminter> ya
#3510 [21:55] <ferminter> and im done
#3511 [21:56] <Mash> ferminter, done with what?
#3512 [21:57] <Mash> I just located a router simulator for your model router.
#3513 [21:57] <ferminter> ok
#3514 [21:57] <ferminter> did you get it
#3515 [21:57] <SkiingPenguins> O_o
#3516 [21:57] <Mash> On the upper right, click Administration
#3517 [21:57] <Maith> Okay I need halp again
#3518 [21:57] <ferminter> ya
#3519 [21:57] <Maith> Fastest way to destroy bricks would be how?
#3520 [21:58] <Mash> Under Router Access, you can set a new password there.
#3521 [21:58] <Maith> Pickaxe takes like, ages
#3522 [21:58] <Mash> type it twice.
#3523 [21:58] <Mash> ferminter, set it to something like admin1 for now.
#3524 [21:58] <Jackson413> what are you destroying
#3525 [21:58] <Maith> Bricks
#3526 [21:58] <Jackson413> diamond pick
#3527 [21:58] <Maith> Bleh, thats what Im using, its darn slow :p
#3528 [21:58] <Mash> Maith, yeah, bricks suck if you ever have to destroy them.
#3529 [21:59] <Maith> Aye :p
#3530 [21:59] <Mash> Maith, unless you have TNT.. TNT works quite well.
#3531 [21:59] <Maith> But that explodes for like, 3x3x3? :P
#3532 [21:59] <ferminter> 15 sec
#3533 [21:59] <Mash> ferminter, I'm sorry, what?
#3534 [21:59] <ferminter> ok done
#3535 [22:00] <Mash> ferminter, alright, now, back on the Administration page, down just under where you set the password is the "Remote Access" configuration
#3536 [22:00] <ferminter> with the password
#3537 [22:00] <Mash> ferminter, click enable to "Remote Management" and then set the "Management Port" to 8080.
#3538 [22:00] <Mash> ferminter,
#3539 [22:00] <Mash> Er; on the bottom, click Save Settings
#3540 [22:01] <ferminter> hello?
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#3542 [22:01] <Jackson413> were still here
#3543 [22:01] <Mash> ferminter, yes?
#3544 [22:02] <Mash> Jackson413, are you guys not seeing my messages or something? :x
#3545 [22:02] <Jackson413> i do
#3546 [22:02] <Maith> I do aswell
#3547 [22:02] <Jackson413> alexandeerr what are you doing
#3548 [22:02] <Mash> Yeah, I just /ping'd fine.
#3549 [22:02] <Mash> 0.16sec.
#3550 [22:02] <Jackson413> ferminter: dude?
#3551 [22:03] <Mash> Jackson413, it shouldn't have, but enabling remote management might have reset his connection, if you have another means of contacting him, please have him reconnect to IRC.
#3552 [22:03] <Mash> Jackson413, probably just refreshing the mibbit.com page will work.
#3553 [22:03] <Jackson413> ok
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#3555 [22:04] <Mash> nevercast; still around?
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#3557 [22:05] <Mash> ferminter is now morton lol
#3558 [22:06] <Jackson413> idk what he is doing
#3559 [22:06] <Mash> morton, if you enter "/nick ferminter" in the message box and click send (without the quotes, mind you) you can set your nickname back to ferminter. ^^
#3560 [22:06] <morton> wtf i lagged out
#3561 [22:06] <Mash> morton, setting remote adminstration might have reset your router, it's not common but does happen ^^
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#3563 [22:07] <ferminter> it did
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#3565 [22:07] <Mash> ferminter, the computer you're playing on, it it named "Daberdaku-PC" or is it "David-PC"?
#3566 [22:07] <ferminter> i set the password
#3567 [22:08] <Mash> ferminter, or rather, the computer that's hosting the MineCraft server.
#3568 [22:08] <ferminter> daberdaku
#3569 [22:08] <Mash> ferminter, alright, I see what you did wrong on the ports, just a moment.
#3570 [22:09] <Mash> !check 67.174.247.101
#3571 [22:09] <Mash> ferminter, congratulations! your server appears to be up and working fine now. :)
#3572 [22:09] <Jackson413> what was it?
#3573 [22:09] <Jackson413> what did we do?
#3574 [22:09] <Mash> Jackson413, the port was set to listen on 25565 externally but forwarded it to the local port 25567.
#3575 [22:09] <Mash> Jackson413, also, you didn't enter IP x.x.x.102, you just entered x.x.x.2. lol
#3576 [22:10] <ferminter> opps
#3577 [22:10] <Jackson413> lol ok
#3578 [22:10] <Mash> ferminter, I'm disabling remote adminsitration now, so it will be locked out unless you re-enable it at a later time.
#3579 [22:10] <Jackson413> Mash: i love you
#3580 [22:10] <ferminter> k ty
#3581 [22:10] <Mash> ferminter, your router is about to reboot again. Enjoy Minecraft!
#3582 [22:11] <Mash> Jackson413, happy to help. :)
#3583 [22:12] <Jackson413> !check 67.174.247.101
#3584 [22:13] <Jackson413> :(
#3585 [22:13] <Mash> Jackson413, his router is rebooting, give him a moment. ^^
#3586 [22:13] <Jackson413> did that reset connection?
#3587 [22:13] <Jackson413> oh ok
#3588 [22:13] <Mash> Jackson413, even if that did mess something up, I'm still here and I'll help until we get it resolved.
#3589 [22:15] <Jackson413> got it
#3590 [22:15] <Mash> !check 67.174.247.101
#3591 [22:15] <Jackson413> thx so much
#3592 [22:15] <Mash> Jackson413, you're welcome. Enjoy :)
#3593 [22:15] <nevercast> Mash, Hopefully my Irc bot with be functional with irc shortly :D
#3594 [22:16] <Mash> nevercast, I wrote a perl irc bot a while back.
#3595 [22:16] <Maith> So, I just close the server when Im done and it's saved?
#3596 [22:16] <Maith> I dont wanna lose my work =(
#3597 [22:16] <Mash> Maith, yes.
#3598 [22:17] <AG_Scott> bots are like super easy in ruby.
#3599 [22:17] <Mash> Maith, if you're just playing single-player, why are you hosting a server?
#3600 [22:17] <AG_Scott> I used a library and had a twitter bot working in about 10 lines :>
#3601 [22:18] <Maith> First of - I wanna be op, second, Im going to convice some friends to play with me
#3602 [22:18] <Mash> AG_Scott, I'd love to write a better, newer one, but I haven't a clue what the rules for bots are in this channel.
#3603 [22:18] <Maith> So Im just getting myself a headstart ;)
#3604 [22:18] <Mash> Maith, ah, alright.
#3605 [22:18] <AG_Scott> More than likely a no-no unless you have permission.
#3606 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Please, no MC->IRC bots here.
#3607 [22:19] <AG_Scott> I think he's referring to more traditional bots
#3608 [22:19] <Mash> GreyVulpine, wouldn't have been an MC->IRC bot.
#3609 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> We've got something like 4 bots here..
#3610 [22:20] <Maith> Owell, thanks for all the help, I'll probably be back sooner or later shooting questions again, so long gaiz<3
#3611 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Unless it's going to be some sort of super awesome bot, I'd rather not clutter this channel with more
#3612 [22:20] <Mash> GreyVulpine, it would've more or less just have been an exercise in writing the bot itself, rather than just sitting in here sucking down 50b/s for eternity.
#3613 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Eh, not here...
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#3618 [22:28] <DekaPink> I was going to ask for help with the minecraft server but I think my problem is that my computer is junk xD
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#3623 [22:41] <srlocklien> vulpine what is the main chat?
#3624 [22:41] <srlocklien> i can't find the link :(
#3625 [22:43] <EmpiresBane> you mean main minecraft channel?
#3626 [22:43] <EmpiresBane> as in #minecraft
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#3633 [22:55] <Decree> hey
#3634 [22:55] <Decree> having a server issue
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#3637 [22:57] <Decree_> hey guys
#3638 [22:57] <Decree_> having a server issue
#3639 [22:57] <Decree_> if anyone can help me
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#3641 [22:57] <EmpiresBane> just ask
#3642 [22:58] <Decree_> i get this error during startup :
#3643 [22:58] <Decree_> 22:51:51 [SEVERE] The following file couldn't pass on Parser.
#3644 [22:58] <Decree_> plugins/EssentialsGroupManager/config.yml loading Permissions v2.5 (Is it up to date?)
#3645 [22:58] <Decree_> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: The following file couldn't pass on Parser.
#3646 [22:58] <Decree_> but the config.yml is correctly parsed
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#3648 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> We don't support bukkit or its plugins. You'll want to hit up #bukkit
#3649 [22:58] <Decree_> k sorry
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#3653 [23:08] <iamweirdie> can somebody help me port forward?
#3654 [23:08] <iamweirdie> !check adminsonthisserver
#3655 [23:08] <iamweirdie> XDDD
#3656 [23:10] <iamweirdie> GreyVulpine u there?
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#3658 [23:11] <aetherian> woo
#3659 [23:11] <aetherian> hey guys
#3660 [23:12] <iamweirdie> do u kno how to port forward?
#3661 [23:12] <aetherian> me, or someone else?
#3662 [23:12] <iamweirdie> u
#3663 [23:12] <aetherian> of course I do
#3664 [23:12] <iamweirdie> need help
#3665 [23:14] <aetherian> good for you
#3666 [23:14] <iamweirdie> DX
#3667 [23:16] <aetherian> well, let's hear it for me making the biggest computer screw up so far in my life
#3668 [23:17] <aetherian> I have every reason to believe my windows MBR is corrupt :D
#3669 [23:17] <iamweirdie> because..?
#3670 [23:18] <aetherian> because I was attempting to install a dualboot of linux, and must have clicked on something wrong
#3671 [23:18] <aetherian> let's hear it for having a knoppix usb lying around :)
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#3675 [23:36] * aetherian whistles
#3675 [23:36] <aetherian> takes a while to back up the entire "users" directory
#3676 [23:39] <EmpiresBane> pfft... backups
#3677 [23:40] <aetherian> EmpiresBane: backup as in I need to reinstall my OS and I want to keep some stuff backup
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