#1 [00:00] <xales> that..could be the issue
#2 [00:00] <xales> I am not aware if one can port forward on that
#3 [00:01] <Nolan_> I had to selcet sare a single ip and I got a port forwarding option
#4 [00:02] <xales> What you need to do is forward the router to the IP of the AirPort
#5 [00:02] <xales> then forward the AirPort to your computer's IP
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#9 [00:08] <Marcus> alright guys this is marcus and i finally got it to give me the error again. here it is:rnal exeption: java.net.Socket.Exception: Software caused connection abort recv something.
#10 [00:08] <DopeGhoti> "someting"..
#11 [00:08] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#12 [00:08] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#13 [00:08] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#14 [00:09] <Marcus> that is all that is on the page.
#15 [00:09] <mib_82frtl> can someone help me with the bad video carfd driver?
#16 [00:09] <mib_82frtl> card
#17 [00:09] <DopeGhoti> mib_82frtl: what sort of video card?
#18 [00:09] <Zachy> http://pastebin.com/hpd7kFVe
#19 [00:09] <mib_82frtl> hmm well tbh im not sure
#20 [00:09] <mib_82frtl> its an old windows xp computer
#21 [00:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_82frtl win/dxdiag
#22 [00:10] <VoxelHead> mib_82frtl: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#23 [00:10] <VoxelHead> mib_82frtl: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#24 [00:10] <Zachy> http://pastebin.com/hpd7kFVe
#25 [00:10] <Zachy> thats the dxdiag
#26 [00:11] <xales> Marcus: turn off any antivirus or firewall software
#27 [00:11] <xales> Zachy: you try the same but...that error is in the graphics card driver
#28 [00:11] <xales> which possibly means a hardware issue
#29 [00:12] <Zachy> All other games run perfectly fine.
#30 [00:12] <Zachy> Black ops, Css, Halo Combat evolved, MW2, crossfire.
#31 [00:12] <xales> All other games aren't Minecraft
#32 [00:12] <KentBallz> mash are you on?
#33 [00:13] <Zachy> A hardware problem that only affects minecraft
#34 [00:13] <mib_82frtl> i saved the options now that its done loading
#35 [00:13] <mib_82frtl> ima try now
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#37 [00:13] <mib_82frtl> hmm
#38 [00:14] <mib_82frtl> so my accelerator isnt fast enough for the game yes?
#39 [00:14] <xales> mib_82frtl: read all of the instructions
#40 [00:14] <xales> you did not follow all of them
#41 [00:14] <mib_82frtl> ok let me retry this
#42 [00:14] <xales> Zachy: Do your other games use OpenGL written in Java?
#43 [00:14] <xales> Nope.
#44 [00:14] <Zachy> You right.
#45 [00:14] <KentBallz> curious could someone PM me on how people make the falling trap where water washes away candles that are holding up sand?
#46 [00:14] <Zachy> Lemme try a Java included game.
#47 [00:15] <xales> mib_82frtl: you need to do the part about opening the file and pastebinning (http://pastebin.com/) the contents
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#49 [00:15] <xales> Zachy: If it's not using LWJGL, there is no point. LWJGL is the specific graphics library Minecraft uses
#50 [00:15] <xales> which is where the error is occuring.
#51 [00:15] <xales> specifically, in a call that it makes to your driver.
#52 [00:16] <Zachy> You right. So what did u tell me to try and fix it
#53 [00:17] <xales> Are you running any sort of antivirus?
#54 [00:17] <Zachy> Microsoft Security Essentials
#55 [00:17] <xales> Nothing else?
#56 [00:17] <Zachy> No
#57 [00:18] <mib_82frtl> i have pasted the info
#58 [00:18] <xales> And you have updated the graphics card driver, and rebooted since updating it, correct?
#59 [00:18] <Zachy> rebooting now.
#60 [00:18] <xales> mib_82frtl: once you paste it and click submit, you need to give us the link to it
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#62 [00:19] <KentBallz> dopeghoti could you help me real quick?
#63 [00:19] <DopeGhoti> if you really mean quick; I'm about to start the last bit of work I have to do tonight (:
#64 [00:20] <mib_82frtl> i accidently lost the link haha
#65 [00:21] <mib_82frtl> http://pastebin.com/f2Xx4Luj
#66 [00:21] <KentBallz> dopeghoti i pmed
#67 [00:21] <xales> mib_82frtl: that computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements to run Minecraft
#68 [00:21] <xales> the graphics card is (significantly) too old
#69 [00:21] <mib_82frtl> i realize this unfortunatly
#70 [00:22] <mib_82frtl> hmm
#71 [00:22] <xales> not anything you can do but upgrade it, and given the age of that computer
#72 [00:22] <xales> just buying a new computer would likely be cheaper
#73 [00:22] <mib_82frtl> hmm
#74 [00:22] <xales> you don't really have enough RAM either, but it should run...not well in any sense
#75 [00:22] <xales> excluding the graphics card
#76 [00:23] <mib_82frtl> ok well thank you, helped me alot for what its worth
#77 [00:25] <mib_82frtl> i have heard that people make alpha servers as an alternative game for people who cant use beta. would you recommend for a short period of time?
#78 [00:25] <xales> if by Alpha you mean Classic, you might be able to play that
#79 [00:25] <xales> but I'm not sure if that would even work
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#81 [00:25] <Zachy> It worked after I rebooted. Just saying thanks.
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#83 [00:25] <mib_82frtl> the classic doesnt work either haha
#84 [00:26] <mib_82frtl> pixil format canr be excellerated
#85 [00:27] <mib_82frtl> i understand it might be difficult or anoyying as you might hear it alot
#86 [00:27] <mib_82frtl> but
#87 [00:27] <mib_82frtl> mabey you should make a lower quality graphics version so others can play
#88 [00:28] <mib_82frtl> liek mabey an alternate download
#89 [00:43] <DopeGhoti> "/topic #MineCraftHelp "${topic} | We are not affiliated with Mojang"
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#91 [00:44] <xales> go ahead
#92 [00:48] <Mash> KentBallz, yes?
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#94 [00:54] <vincent> why is the minecraft notworking?
#95 [00:54] <xales> why isn't it?
#96 [00:54] <vincent> the .exe one i mean
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#98 [00:54] <xales> what about it doesn't work
#99 [00:54] <vincent> i'm unable to start it
#100 [00:55] <vincent> java vitual machine error
#101 [00:55] <Mash> nevercast, you around?
#102 [00:55] <xales> what is the error, exactly?
#103 [00:55] <vincent> i'm not sure.... it won't say
#104 [00:56] <xales> What error does it show you regarding the Java Virtual Machine
#105 [00:58] <vincent> only Java Virtual Machine, no codes, no reason, no details to why only a windows box with could not create the Java Virtual Machine
#106 [00:59] <vincent> although i can use the browswer one just fine
#107 [01:03] <xales> how much RAM do you have?
#108 [01:04] <DopeGhoti> vincent: I will bet you actual cash money that the error says more than just "Java Virtual Machine".
#109 [01:04] <xales> DopeGhoti: As he said, it was "could not create the Java Virtual Machine" :)
#110 [01:04] <vincent> 4gig of ram although it's only picks up 3gig as it's an using windows xp as the operating system
#111 [01:04] <xales> Do you have any antivirus running?
#112 [01:04] <AG_Scott> !check randomq.ath.cx:25565
#113 [01:09] <vincent> i'm not sure what's causing it..
#114 [01:09] <xales> 01:04:54 <@xales> Do you have any antivirus running?
#115 [01:09] <vincent> only zonealarm
#116 [01:09] <xales> that might have something to do with it
#117 [01:09] <xales> ZoneAlarm is known to cause issues with Minecraft
#118 [01:09] <xales> disable it
#119 [01:10] <vincent> hmm.. i may try that..
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#122 [01:14] <KentBallz> mash are you on?
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#124 [01:20] <frost> hmm... that was odd
#125 [01:21] <frost> i shutted down zonealarm and it quit the broswer
#126 [01:22] <frost> i'm vincent by the way -.-
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#129 [01:26] <Trav> When i try to open the game it just crashes any help?
#130 [01:26] <xales> frost: does it work any better now?
#131 [01:26] <xales> Trav: "just crashes" doesn't mean much
#132 [01:26] <xales> is there an error?
#133 [01:26] <Trav> No
#134 [01:26] <Trav> it black screens and exits
#135 [01:26] <xales> has it ever worked?
#136 [01:26] <frost> no error now, it loads then quits itself
#137 [01:26] <xales> ...
#138 [01:27] <xales> frost: At what point does it quit
#139 [01:28] <frost> when you run it, but it doesn't show in the taskmanager unless you run it about four times it shows up but then dissappears
#140 [01:29] <xales> you are using XP, right?
#141 [01:29] <braincreation> ahhh sorry I have not been around for a while... work's been kicking up
#142 [01:29] <frost> yes
#143 [01:29] <xales> frost: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#144 [01:29] <xales> check that you have the latest Java
#145 [01:30] <frost> i got java, and it's the lastest one
#146 [01:30] <frost> i've tried jre and jdk
#147 [01:31] <xales> ok then
#148 [01:31] <xales> go to start->run, type "cmd"
#149 [01:31] <xales> click run
#150 [01:31] <frost> ok done that
#151 [01:31] <xales> before we continue, make sure that the Minecraft.exe file is on your desktop
#152 [01:32] <xales> then in the box that comes up, type "java -jar Desktop/Minecraft.exe"
#153 [01:32] <frost> same error
#154 [01:33] <xales> look in the CMD window
#155 [01:33] <xales> what does it say?
#156 [01:35] <frost> Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\usernamehere>java -jar Desktop/Minecraft.exe" C:\Documents and Settings\usernamehere>
#157 [01:35] <xales> It didn't say anything after you put "java -jar Desktop/Minecraft.exe"?
#158 [01:35] <xales> just went back to the prompt?
#159 [01:36] <frost> yea
#160 [01:36] <xales> That is...interesting
#161 [01:36] <xales> try "java -Xmx256M -jar Desktop/Minecraft.jar"
#162 [01:37] <xales> (case matters!)
#163 [01:38] <frost> C:\Documents and Settings\Shadowlyfox>java -Xmx256M -jar Desktop/Minecraft.jar Unable to access jarfile Desktop/Minecraft.jar
#164 [01:38] <xales> err
#165 [01:38] <xales> sorry
#166 [01:39] <xales> try "java -Xmx256M -jar Desktop/Minecraft.exe"
#167 [01:39] <xales> ._.
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#169 [01:41] <frost> well the Java Vitual machine launcher pop up this time, but... it says could not create the Jave vitual machine
#170 [01:42] <xales> The the CMD window still shows nothing?
#171 [01:42] <frost> nope
#172 [01:43] <xales> Try creating a new Windows user account
#173 [01:43] <xales> and see if it works using that account
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#176 [01:51] <frost> dosn't work as well
#177 [01:52] <xales> there is something funky with your computer, then
#178 [01:52] <xales> if it works in the browser, I guess just play there
#179 [01:52] <xales> not much else can be done
#180 [01:53] <frost> alright then, but thanks for tying to help anyway :)
#181 [01:53] <xales> no problem
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#183 [01:57] <fogWraith> xales, i has problams, halp ;(
#184 [01:57] <xales> fogWraith: :O
#185 [01:57] <xabo> hi.. blocks that re-spawns instantly when destroyed, how can it be fixed? Im admin on the server aswell, so permissions shouldnt be any problem
#186 [01:58] <xales> xabo: try moving away from the spawn
#187 [01:58] <fogWraith> xales, power outage did more damage than I first expected
#188 [01:58] <fogWraith> UPS didn't inform the server to shut down :(
#189 [01:58] <xabo> xales, it respawns again ..
#190 [01:59] <xales> xabo: and you have moved a good distance from where you spawn?
#191 [01:59] <xabo> im not at the spawnpoint, this problem happens all over my server
#192 [01:59] <fogWraith> Sounds like chunk issues, restart server and try again? :P
#193 [01:59] <braincreation> respawning again, can be a protected region (spawn, etc), server lag or latency between client/server, or a client glitch and reconnecting will fix it
#194 [02:00] <xales> xabo: is this your server?
#195 [02:00] <xabo> yes..
#196 [02:00] <xabo> tried server restart etc
#197 [02:00] <xales> it sounds like your computer can't handle running a server, then
#198 [02:00] <xabo> shoulndt be any problem at all, tbh
#199 [02:00] <xales> why is that?
#200 [02:01] <xabo> http://srv1.networld.no/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic
#201 [02:01] <xabo> ^^
#202 [02:02] <xales> do you get this problem when you connect to other servers?
#203 [02:03] <xabo> yes.. sometimes
#204 [02:04] <xales> The problem seems to be your Internet connection then
#205 [02:04] <xabo> ehm.. so it doesnt have anything to do with java or so?
#206 [02:04] <xales> Correct
#207 [02:05] <xales> If you get the issue on other servers, but not in single player, then the issue is your Internet connection
#208 [02:05] <xabo> Then, why is every other user on my server having the same issue aswell?
#209 [02:05] <xabo> Even on a few other servers aswell
#210 [02:05] <xales> They could have the same problem you do?
#211 [02:06] <xabo> Yea... blocks respawn instantly almost on destroy
#212 [02:06] <xabo> only happens somtimes tho, and no.. not protected areas
#213 [02:06] <xales> http://speedtest.net/
#214 [02:06] <xales> run that, paste link here
#215 [02:07] <xabo> sure
#216 [02:07] <xabo> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1193762628.png
#217 [02:08] <xales> That doesn't seem to be the problem then
#218 [02:08] <xales> It's the server, then
#219 [02:08] <xabo> So nothing to do against it imo?
#220 [02:09] <xabo> Cause i heard a java-config would fix it .. ehm
#221 [02:09] <xales> It could be the server's connection, but it seems to be the server's CPU in this case
#222 [02:09] <xales> possibly RAM, but unlikely
#223 [02:11] <xabo> ill try google it instead
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#225 [02:15] <fogWraith> Finally ...
#226 [02:15] <fogWraith> RAMDrive + failed shutdown of server = loss of data && QQ
#227 [02:16] <xales> :(
#228 [02:16] <fogWraith> Not that I care ;P
#229 [02:17] <fogWraith> Now, to figure out why ghasts & slimes are not considered monsters ;P
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#231 [02:21] <fogWraith> And, Eclipse is starting to piss me off with their popups for everything I move my cursor over
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#235 [02:42] <xales> hey fogWraith
#236 [02:42] <xales> you around?
#237 [02:42] <fogWraith> Yeah
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#241 [02:58] <KentBallz> mash or nevercast around?
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#243 [03:04] <erik212> I lag horribly in smp...sometimes, when I reboot it fixes itself until I reopen the minecraft client. Now it's not fixing itself even after a reboot...what do?
#244 [03:04] <xales> Do you also get lag in single player?
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#246 [03:05] <erik212> no
#247 [03:05] <erik212> I can easily max the game out graphics-wise with little cpu load
#248 [03:05] <erik212> I'm pretty sure it has something to do with my nic
#249 [03:05] <erik212> with is strange, because it's wired ethernet
#250 [03:06] <xales> is it an Atheros?
#251 [03:06] <erik212> no
#252 [03:06] <erik212> Realtek
#253 [03:06] <erik212> integrated into MB
#254 [03:06] <xales> I think there are known issues with Realtek =/
#255 [03:06] <erik212> dammat
#256 [03:06] <erik212> I'll look into this
#257 [03:06] <erik212> thanks
#258 [03:07] <erik212> unless you have anything else to add?
#259 [03:07] <xales> not really
#260 [03:07] <erik212> I can sometimes be connected perfectly
#261 [03:07] <xales> there's a know nissue with it doing that
#262 [03:07] <erik212> fuuuu
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#264 [03:09] <Keaft> lol
#265 [03:09] <xales> ?
#266 [03:09] <Keaft> AuBot's auto response
#267 [03:09] <xales> ah.
#268 [03:09] <Keaft> so
#269 [03:10] <Keaft> a while ago I asked about a proxy/forward from one url to another in minecraft
#270 [03:10] <Keaft> well I've taken it a different direction this time.
#271 [03:10] <Keaft> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?ip=holmesservices.dyndns.org&port=25565
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#273 [03:11] <Keaft> it works, but only when it doesn't verify names.
#274 [03:11] <xales> that's how it's supposed to work
#275 [03:11] <Keaft> would this be on mc's side or the servers?
#276 [03:11] <xales> it's supposed to only work when verify-names is off
#277 [03:12] <Keaft> this then allows for impersonation though correct?
#278 [03:12] <xales> I believe it does
#279 [03:12] <Keaft> Dang, that has lamesauce spilled all over it.
#280 [03:13] <xales> they still have to know the Ip for your server to connect
#281 [03:14] <Keaft> with the url they can still obtain it though
#282 [03:14] <xales> only if you give them the URL
#283 [03:14] <Keaft> them being the players or mc
#284 [03:14] <Keaft> oic
#285 [03:15] <Keaft> hmm
#286 [03:15] <Keaft> hmm indeed...
#287 [03:16] <Keaft> Thanks :D
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#299 [04:16] <HaigoO> !isdown
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#303 [04:20] <hborder> Hi ! I have a little problem when launching minecraft on ubuntu, can someone help me ? :)
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#305 [04:25] <KentBallz> is there anyone around who could help me with traps?
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#310 [05:02] <aska> hello
#311 [05:02] <aska> I would like to know
#312 [05:03] <aska> is the Minecraft server totally buggy ?
#313 [05:05] <aska> My friend has a very good PC, with 6Go of RAM, I7 CPU, and all that stuff
#314 [05:05] <aska> we have a 2 Mo/s bandwith beetween us
#315 [05:05] <aska> 8 ms latency
#316 [05:06] <aska> and I have *20" fxcking seconds of lag on his server
#317 [05:06] <aska> I can not understand why
#318 [05:06] <fogWraith> Logging in, grabbing terrain / chunks takes a while, but you should be in the clear after a while
#319 [05:06] <fogWraith> Tried waiting it out?
#320 [05:07] <aska> how time ?
#321 [05:07] <fogWraith> A minute or so
#322 [05:07] <fogWraith> Log in, brew some coffee, come back, see how it works
#323 [05:08] <aska> hum
#324 [05:08] <aska> sometimes it works
#325 [05:08] <aska> 300 ms latency
#326 [05:08] <aska> it seems anormal to me
#327 [05:08] <aska> but it is playable
#328 [05:09] <aska> and sometimes...it' totally unplyable
#329 [05:09] <aska> I'll try later
#330 [05:10] <aska> oh, and my friend can connect to international servers like minefield.fr
#331 [05:10] <fogWraith> That's good, if he can ;P
#332 [05:11] <aska> but me I can't
#333 [05:11] <aska> I mean
#334 [05:11] <aska> I can log in, but the terrain does'nt load, and I fall, I fall, I fall...
#335 [05:12] <fogWraith> Sounds like a problem on your end or the server... hard to tell
#336 [05:13] <aska> and I has a 2mo/s connection, he has only 512 ko/s
#337 [05:13] <fogWraith> There's your problem then, 0.5mbit
#338 [05:13] <aska> (for international connection, on our country we got both 2 mb/s)
#339 [05:16] <aska> I have to go, i'll try to play later
#340 [05:16] <aska> but I'm very disappointed that I can not play multiplayer anywhere, on public or private servers
#341 [05:16] <aska> good bye everyone
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#354 [06:52] <Diablothein> Hmm
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#363 [07:13] <Goldenminner> Hi does Minecraft works on Sis mirrage 3 ?
#364 [07:14] <Diabo> any news on when the next update is?
#365 [07:15] <Goldenminner> Anyone here have Sis mirrage 3 graphics card and it works on minecraft/
#366 [07:39] <ArmEagle> heh, i know there are other ways.. But I was parsing the server.log to see how many people are logged in.. Apparently the game sometimes doesn't print the join/disconnect lines..
#367 [07:40] <Shadikka> Yeah, sometimes you just get a SocketException for a disconnect.
#368 [07:40] <Shadikka> So pretty much the only foolproof method is a periodical /list
#369 [07:41] <Shadikka> (easier to parse, too)
#370 [07:41] <ArmEagle> oh.. i didn't know that logged to the log file.
#371 [07:42] <ArmEagle> Guess I'll add that
#372 [07:42] <Shadikka> Everything you see in stdout goes to the log file afaik
#373 [07:42] <Shadikka> ie. if you do "list" in the server, it gets logged
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#375 [07:42] <Shadikka> not if somebody does it in-game (I think?)
#376 [07:42] <ArmEagle> yeah
#377 [07:42] <ArmEagle> never thought about what would happen if you did that in the console :)
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#380 [07:55] <Neodel> Hello, I am french and i have Download Minecraft, but i have "Fatal Exeption occured". More forums say : It's a problème with ATI catalyst. My driver of ATi is 11.2 (installed today !). Can you help me, i need open minecraft !!
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#382 [07:56] <Neodel> Hello, I am french and i have Download Minecraft, but i have "Fatal Exeption occured". More forums say : It's a problème with ATI catalyst. My driver of ATi is 11.2 (installed today !). Can you help me, i need open minecraft !!
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#386 [08:13] <haljasd> Hello, since last update, my screen allways turn black or white?
#387 [08:14] <haljasd> - when i start minecraft, i have tried launcher and in browser
#388 [08:18] <haljasd> Any sort of help?...
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#392 [08:40] <DerekSH97> help
#393 [08:41] <Shadikka> Just ask.
#394 [08:41] <DerekSH97> how do i add maps to my McLawl server?
#395 [08:42] <Kimax> DerekSH97 just so you know it... McLawl server is not supported by minecraft
#396 [08:42] <DerekSH97> ok
#397 [08:42] <Shadikka> You're better off trying to get help from McLawl's own channels, forums, forum thread or whatnot.
#398 [08:42] <DerekSH97> ok
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#404 [09:05] <Tomelyr> hi
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#415 [10:13] <lasse> i have maked a server, is it possible to restart the world to the beginning????
#416 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes, delete the "world" folder
#417 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> (after you stop the server)
#418 [10:13] <lasse> ok
#419 [10:14] <lasse> hhat should i do i i dont want other people to make something in there
#420 [10:15] <lasse> æææææ, i dont have a "world" folder
#421 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> What kind of server is this? classic or survival?
#422 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> And if you don't want people to make stuff on there, don't give out the server ip
#423 [10:17] <lasse> i ont now, i tryed to start a server that me and my friends could make stuff in together
#424 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Is this a server where you already have all the blocks, and is free...
#425 [10:17] <lasse> yes
#426 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Or a server with crafting, mobs, and animals..
#427 [10:17] <lasse> the first one
#428 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then you're using the classic, free, creative server
#429 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to delete the level.dat file
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#431 [10:18] <lasse> the "server_level.dat"????
#432 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> YEs
#433 [10:19] <lasse> 16:17 GreyVulpine: Or a server with crafting, mobs, and animals.. IS THIS FREE
#434 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> The server is free, the client, you need to pay to play
#435 [10:20] <lasse> and that means
#436 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> No, it's not free to play
#437 [10:20] <lasse> ok
#438 [10:21] <lasse> how mutch do i have to pay????
#439 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> 15 euros, or about 22 bucks US
#440 [10:21] <lasse> that is more than the game, hehe
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#442 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> That is the game
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#444 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
#445 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> When Minecraft is finished, it will sell for €20.00.
#446 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> If you pre-purchase now during beta, you pay just €14.95!
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#448 [10:23] <lasse> i have payd that
#449 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Then you can get the beta server for free
#450 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#451 [10:23] <lasse> how
#452 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#453 [10:24] <lasse> will that be the same thing as offline play
#454 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#455 [10:27] <lasse> when i pressing the link i coming to a page that says the link is appears to be broken
#456 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> which one?
#457 [10:28] <lasse> Minecraft_Server.exe
#458 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that works for me.
#459 [10:30] <lasse> if, i download the file on my mac, and sending it to the windows, will it still work
#460 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#461 [10:34] <lasse> is it here i have to log in with a ip adress??? it dident work in the other one
#462 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#463 [10:34] <lasse> ok
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#465 [10:39] <lasse> now when it was finished to load, i got the message "(warning) Can`t keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?" what can i do
#466 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> You can ignore that message.
#467 [10:44] <lasse> now it working :D thank you for the help :D
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#472 [11:09] <Wahrheit> A CHALLENGER HAS APPEARED
#473 [11:12] <Wahrheit> Is there any way to make minecraft access the internet through my SSH tunnel?
#474 [11:12] <Wahrheit> Minecraft at school would be fantastic
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#476 [11:15] <muzzio> Hi guys, Can I play off free the beta 1.3?
#477 [11:15] <muzzio> I am trying but not sucess until now..
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#480 [11:22] <Morrolan> muzzio: No, you can't play it for free, and you won't get any help or info about that topic either.
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#484 [11:34] <mapc> hi
#485 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#486 [11:34] <mapc> (irc without login – that's special) ^^
#487 [11:35] <mapc> could someone answer me one question please?
#488 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> Just ask.
#489 [11:35] <mapc> i want to buy the game for me and my brother, do i have to buy it twice?
#490 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#491 [11:36] <mapc> thanks
#492 [11:38] <mapc> oh, now i'm a little confused ^^ on the website is written, that there "is no DRM on it"?
#493 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Right...
#494 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> There is nothing preventing you from installing and playing it on multiple machines, on your account. if you and your brother both want to play online though, you're going to need two accounts
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#496 [11:40] <JimSki> hi
#497 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#498 [11:40] <mapc> so i'm actually buing an account… ^^ (and so there is a drm…)
#499 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> No, there is an online authentication, to verify you have a premium account...
#500 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> But there's no DRM in the respect that many AAA titles have, where you can only install it a certain number of times
#501 [11:42] <JimSki> should i buy minecraft?
#502 [11:42] <mapc> hihi, lol :)
#503 [11:42] <JimSki> i have played it round my mates house but dunno
#504 [11:42] <mapc> lot's of minecraft fans here ^^
#505 [11:43] <mapc> GreyVulpin: well, al least i know what's the matter. Thanks a lot again :)
#506 [11:43] <mapc> bye
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#508 [11:43] <JimSki> might buy it
#509 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> I don't think there's anybody here who would advise against buying minecraft
#510 [11:45] <JimSki> is it that amazing
#511 [11:45] <JimSki> any one got a server i can play to get a take to it?
#512 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> if you've played on your mates computers, you pretty much have an idea of what it already is
#513 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> There's a free 'classic' mode, available on the website
#514 [11:46] <JimSki> ohh
#515 [11:46] <JimSki> ill go check it out
#516 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Has all the blocks, but none of the new features, crafting, mobs, and such
#517 [11:47] <JimSki> ccool
#518 [11:47] <JimSki> i think ill give it ago
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#525 [12:13] <wildfire100> when iver i try to login through my launcher, i get to a blank screen, is this because minecraft.net is down?
#526 [12:13] <xales> no
#527 [12:13] <wildfire100> how do i fix this then?
#528 [12:13] <xales> ??> wildfire100 win/reinst
#529 [12:13] <VoxelHead> wildfire100: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#530 [12:13] <VoxelHead> wildfire100: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#531 [12:14] <wildfire100> im running ubuntu
#532 [12:15] <xales> ??> linux/reinst
#533 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> s/>//
#534 [12:15] <wildfire100> ok, thanks, just see if it work
#535 [12:15] <xales> yeah :P
#536 [12:15] <xales> ??> wildfire100 linux/reinst
#537 [12:15] <VoxelHead> wildfire100: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#538 [12:15] <VoxelHead> wildfire100: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#539 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> wildfire100: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin
#540 [12:15] <DopeGhoti> (please type carfully)
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#542 [12:15] <wildfire100> thanks, it works now
#543 [12:16] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#544 [12:16] <Harun> hey guys
#545 [12:16] <wildfire100> oh, and how do i install mods?
#546 [12:16] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#547 [12:16] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#548 [12:16] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#549 [12:16] <DopeGhoti> ^tutorial there
#550 [12:18] <Harun> i got a little problem with understanding what i get when i buy the game: you may buy a discounted beta account today, which will also include the full game! is written in the copyright info, some words later though there's this: When you purchase the game, you pay for it as it is right now. Future updates are an added bonus.
#551 [12:18] <xales> Harun: "Added bonus" means "you get them for free"
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#553 [12:19] <Harun> so when i buy the game now, i will have every update and addon and feature for minecraft that might be there in future?
#554 [12:19] <statharas> ugh guys
#555 [12:19] <statharas> i need quick help
#556 [12:19] <Harun> meaning official addon and update and feature
#557 [12:19] <statharas> my server won't get my list of admins
#558 [12:20] <statharas> and now i can't use comands
#559 [12:20] <statharas> commands*
#560 [12:20] <statharas> help D:
#561 [12:20] <xales> Harun: No. You get everything up to the release version, and any fix updates
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#563 [12:20] <xales> you do not get any expansions (if there are any, there may not be), for free
#564 [12:20] <xales> statharas: define "won't get my list of admins"
#565 [12:20] <statharas> alright.
#566 [12:21] <Harun> kay thanks guys
#567 [12:21] <statharas> I used to have my server up
#568 [12:21] <statharas> and everything worked
#569 [12:21] <statharas> users.txt, etc
#570 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> users.txt isn't a vanilla file
#571 [12:21] <statharas> now, the server won't have myself set as admin
#572 [12:21] <statharas> w/e
#573 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> was this a modded server?
#574 [12:21] <statharas> deleted all files then re-downloaded with old world
#575 [12:21] <statharas> nope
#576 [12:21] <JimSki> can any one help me start a clasic server
#577 [12:22] <statharas> ps, i am on beta
#578 [12:22] <xales> JimSki: What aspect of setting one up
#579 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> statharas: there is no users.txt for beta vanilal servers. check ops.txt
#580 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> statharas opyourself
#581 [12:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> statharas smp/opyourself
#582 [12:22] <statharas> how
#583 [12:22] <VoxelHead> statharas: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#584 [12:22] <JimSki> the whole thing i dont really know what to do
#585 [12:22] <VoxelHead> statharas: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#586 [12:23] <JimSki> im not experiance in these servers only rsps
#587 [12:23] <xales> JimSki: Download the server, run it, close it, change server.properties to your liking, run it again, port forward
#588 [12:23] <statharas> i still can't give items to me
#589 [12:23] <JimSki> what ports?
#590 [12:23] <xales> statharas: you have to restart the server
#591 [12:23] <statharas> using /get
#592 [12:23] <xales> JimSki: 25565 TCP
#593 [12:23] <xales> statharas: it's not /get. it's /give
#594 [12:23] <DopeGhoti> statharas: there is no /get
#595 [12:23] <statharas> or give
#596 [12:24] <JimSki> ok
#597 [12:24] <DopeGhoti> statharas: for a list of commands, use /help. If you opped yourself by adding yourself to ops.txt, you must restart the server.
#598 [12:24] <statharas> actually
#599 [12:24] <statharas> there was a give command
#600 [12:24] <statharas> that directly put stuff in your inventory
#601 [12:24] <DopeGhoti> Not in vanilla.
#602 [12:24] <statharas> or was it like, /item 46 64
#603 [12:24] <statharas> :s
#604 [12:24] <DopeGhoti> again. no /item command.
#605 [12:24] <statharas> it's beta
#606 [12:25] <DopeGhoti> ?? vanilla
#607 [12:25] <VoxelHead> vanilla: vanilla (adj.): Bland; original; with no garnish. In the contect of Minecraft, a server or client with no mods, skins, texture packs, or other customizations.
#608 [12:25] <statharas> again, it was a pure server with no mods
#609 [12:25] <xales> No, it wasn't, if it had those commands
#610 [12:25] <DopeGhoti> if you had a /item command, you are mistaken.
#611 [12:26] <statharas> ._.
#612 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Either case, you just need to add your name to the ops.txt file, restart the server
#613 [12:26] <statharas> kay
#614 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> And you'll have ops again
#615 [12:26] <statharas> i already got it via OP <name>
#616 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> and, once opped, for a full list of commands that actually exist, use /help.
#617 [12:26] <statharas> anyway, any cool mods i should download?
#618 [12:26] <statharas> :v
#619 [12:26] <statharas> i use railroads etc
#620 [12:26] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#621 [12:26] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#622 [12:26] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#623 [12:26] <statharas> ah dang
#624 [12:27] <JimSki> whats the trigger port for minecraft
#625 [12:27] <statharas> thanks anyway
#626 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> 25565
#627 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> 25565
#628 [12:27] <statharas> thanks a lot
#629 [12:27] <JimSki> ok
#630 [12:27] <statharas> :3
#631 [12:27] <statharas> cya
#632 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> ??+ smp/port|25565
#633 [12:27] <JimSki> whats the range
#634 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565
#635 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> TCP
#636 [12:27] <JimSki> cheers
#637 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> ah, good idea.
#638 [12:27] <DopeGhoti> ??~ smp/port|TCP port 25565
#639 [12:28] <JimSki> applying
#640 [12:29] <JimSki> why cant i portforward lol
#641 [12:29] <xales> Did you set up port forwarding or port triggering
#642 [12:29] <xales> which is different.
#643 [12:30] <JimSki> forwarding a a bthomehub 2 router
#644 [12:30] <xales> check http://portforward.com/ for instructions
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#647 [12:31] <Hero> Hello guys...
#648 [12:31] <MDanz> wht defukt port for a SMP server?
#649 [12:31] <MDanz> default*
#650 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> 25565
#651 [12:31] <MDanz> tyvm
#652 [12:32] <Hero> I am having an issue with SSP...trying to get the java console open so i can see the crash that MC is having so I can remove the mod that is causing it
#653 [12:32] <Hero> the crash i am having...is that any world i load...says "Simulating world a bit" and then just crashes..no error or anything just closes
#654 [12:32] <ConnectQ> Can anyone help me i am getting a video card error :/
#655 [12:32] <fogWraith> Arrrrrgh... "Can't keep up" messages every 3 seconds!
#656 [12:32] <xales> ConnectQ: Update your video card driver
#657 [12:32] <ConnectQ> when i try to play MC
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#659 [12:33] <Hero> the java console doesn't open even tho I have taht setting set in the java control panel...
#660 [12:33] <xales> Hero: If you want to see an error, run it from command prompt
#661 [12:33] <JimSki> any one portforward on temaviewer for me
#662 [12:33] <Hero> I have done so but java says it can't find a main class
#663 [12:33] <xales> JimSki: GreyVulpine might be up for it, but I can't run TeamViewer on this
#664 [12:33] <xales> Hero: Then you launched it incorrectly
#665 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#666 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> I could try.. sure
#667 [12:34] <JimSki> will he
#668 [12:34] <Hero> yes, how do you lauch it then?
#669 [12:34] <JimSki> cheers
#670 [12:34] <xales> Put Minecraft.exe on your desktop, and run "java -jar Desktop/Minecraft.exe" from command prompt
#671 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> PM me your info
#672 [12:34] <Hero> remember this is the client..not a server
#673 [12:34] <fogWraith> xales, I know what the solution to my problem with can't keep up messages is on my server, if you can guess you're good
#674 [12:34] <Hero> ahhh thanks
#675 [12:34] <fogWraith> if you know the*
#676 [12:34] <xales> fogWraith: uh...could be anything? :P
#677 [12:34] <JimSki> pm me
#678 [12:34] <fogWraith> Take a guess, every 3 seconds ;)
#679 [12:34] <xales> HDD?
#680 [12:35] <fogWraith> RAMDrive
#681 [12:35] <fogWraith> Next ;)
#682 [12:35] <Hero> hmm comand promt ...goes back to a promt the secound the launcher launches...
#683 [12:35] <Hero> and then ofc ..the console doesn't show anything when it crashes...
#684 [12:36] <xales> Just remove the mods then, and put them back one by one?
#685 [12:36] <fogWraith> A player on my server decided he wanted to try CraftBook, redstone wiring on every block for god knows how many chunks it reached... with netherrack over it
#686 [12:36] <Hero> Oh yes...that would be fun trying to go through about 20 of them
#687 [12:36] <fogWraith> I was mighty confused till he told me what he was doing, since it didn't make sense
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#689 [12:36] <Hero> and finding out what is conflicting
#690 [12:36] <xales> Hero: Not my problem. You are the one using unsupported, unofficial, mods.
#691 [12:36] <Hero> seems modders have no idea how to actuall give good info..and they expect we would keep the tab on there post open...
#692 [12:37] <Hero> i mass DL mods...
#693 [12:37] <Hero> eh well notch needs to add in that modding thing soon
#694 [12:37] <Hero> cuz vanillia is boring as hell
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#696 [12:39] <fogWraith> I wonder how much Notch would open up to modders
#697 [12:40] <xales> Probably a hook/callback thing and expose some classes
#698 [12:40] <xales> (Player, Chunks, and so on)
#699 [12:46] <KentBallz> xales are you a bot and mash are you on?
#700 [12:47] <xales> No, I am not a bot.
#701 [12:47] <xales> However, any bot you ask will, like me
#702 [12:47] <xales> insist they are not a bot.
#703 [12:47] <KentBallz> lol I'm just messing because you are on here so much
#704 [12:47] <xales> :D
#705 [12:47] <xales> anyway
#706 [12:48] * xales is busy, goes afk
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#707 [12:48] <fertilizerspike> is that fucking faggot xales an op here, too
#708 [12:49] * xales kicked fertilizerspike from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Out.)
#709 [12:49] <Morrolan> I guess yes. XD
#710 [12:49] <fogWraith> I lol'd so very hard
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#712 [12:49] <Morrolan> The moment I saw his message I knew what'd happen. :D
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#715 [12:51] <Hero> Dam...someone has to know how to get console output for the MC client...
#716 [12:51] <Hero> that is all i need...something that shows the panic that MC is having
#717 [12:51] <Hero> I need to see the execption that is being thrown...
#718 [12:51] <Hero> and what file is causing it
#719 [12:51] <mib_18sq3w> Imy minecraft doesnt starts, there stands UPDATING MINECRAFT DONE LOADING . This is during the whole day. pls help me
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#721 [12:59] <Shadikka> Hero: "java -jar minecraft.jar"?
#722 [13:04] <xales> ??> mib_18sq3w win/reinst
#723 [13:04] <VoxelHead> mib_18sq3w: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#724 [13:05] <VoxelHead> mib_18sq3w: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#726 [13:06] <mib_18sq3w> thanks i try
#727 [13:06] <fogWraith> xales, what did you do to upset that douche? :P
#728 [13:08] <xales> fogWraith: I kicked him from #minecraft because he was trolling ("Minecraft doesn't run on my computer but nethack does so Minecraft sucks")
#729 [13:08] <xales> also
#730 [13:08] <xales> 12:50:01 <fertilizerspike> suck a fucking cock, faggot
#731 [13:08] <xales> 12:50:58 <fertilizerspike> you must be part of Botch's little scam, how much is he paying you to keep people from talking about paying for the game and not being able to play it
#732 [13:08] <xales> 12:51:16 <fertilizerspike> you really must think you're hot shit well you're not, you're a fucking imbecile
#733 [13:09] <mib_18sq3w> thank you very much now it functions
#734 [13:09] <mib_18sq3w> :D
#735 [13:09] <fogWraith> Haha, nice stuff
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#737 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#738 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> You're making all sorts of friends there xales
#739 [13:12] <xales> I practice
#740 [13:12] <xales> :<
#741 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Mrah, that was quick.. ish
#742 [13:12] <Fum> Hi. Is there a way to run Minecraftserver and Minecraft at the same time under Windows without having a quad-core 32GB RAM crazymachine?
#743 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Just need at least 3-4 gigs of RAM
#744 [13:12] <Fum> I have 4.
#745 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Decent CPU?
#746 [13:13] <Fum> Core2Duo E4500
#747 [13:13] * GreyVulpine winces
#747 [13:13] <Fum> Runs Crysis 2 demo on High :/
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#749 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> This doesn't take advantage of the GPU as much as crysis 2 does
#750 [13:13] <Fum> And Java should burn in hell :<
#751 [13:14] * GreyVulpine agrees fully.
#751 [13:14] * Fum lol'd because he googled what's "Wince" and it found "Windows CE" as first XD
#751 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> That Core2Duo might be your bottleneck there.
#752 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> You can try running both the server and the client at the same time, set your CPU's affinity accordingly.. but I won't hold out hope if it does choke.
#753 [13:16] <Fum> Probably is. But christ... How many GHz does a bloody server need. *sigh*
#754 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Also, with 1.3, it's been known to cause machines that could run it.. to gasp and die horribly
#755 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> So don't take 1.3 as a baseline right now
#756 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Well, minecraft doesn't take advantage of being multi-threaded...
#757 [13:17] <Fum> GreyVulpine, thanks. I've tried fiddling with core affinity and priorities, but the best I got is the map fully loaded but no mobs moved and a connection overflow exit after some minutes.
#758 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> So Ghz on one core is what you need to be concerned about now
#759 [13:17] <fogWraith> AAAAAarrrrrggghhh... "IT DOESN'T WORK" *show screenshot*... and no information regarding any version or anything else that could help, I love humans
#760 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Fum - That's a common problem, yeah.
#761 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is in a constant state of updates and flux.. don't take the server performance now at face value. It will likely change down the line
#762 [13:18] * Fum goes to GetSatisfaction to suggest Notch add rope so that people can hang themselves from trees after fighting with the game for hours.
#762 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#763 [13:19] <Forge> Nah, elevators to high places.
#764 [13:19] * Forge is rather serious on that, elevators would be so nice.
#764 [13:19] <Forge> or cranes
#765 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Try managing this place. People come here without any inkling as how to even port forward... and ask for detailed steps on how to set up a server.
#766 [13:19] <Fum> GreyVulpine, I know it's Beta and still changing, but I'd like to play with a friend and we do not have a third PC to host the game on, nor the money to rent one.
#767 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Or try setting up a server on a netbook. *shudder*
#768 [13:20] * GreyVulpine nods
#768 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> My advice right now, is to wait for the next update. 1.3 came with a new file format, as well as new graphical features (smooth lighting), both of which took heavy hits on clients performance.
#769 [13:22] <Fum> The new file format was to reduce Hard Drive load, though?
#770 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Your computer sounds like it could handle the client and server at the same time, if minecraft was re-optimized again.
#771 [13:23] <Fum> And the next update will be in a month, at best.
#772 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> It was, yeah..
#773 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> I mean, I had my core2duo laptop, with 4 gigs of ram, hosting and playing minecraft at the same time back in early beta
#774 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> With 1.3, that died.
#775 [13:23] <Fum> GreyVulpine, a Pentium 4 could run Minecraft without problems if it wasn't for Java.
#776 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Heh, perhaps.
#777 [13:24] <Fum> It's not like after generating chunks the game calculates a lot of things. It checks for tree and grass growth, moves monsters about...
#778 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> lighting is a huge part of the calculations.
#779 [13:25] * Fum mehs and goes to wait for better times then :<
#779 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> every block has a light value associated with it
#780 [13:26] <Fum> GreyVulpine, but it's static apart from dawn/dusk?
#781 [13:26] * GreyVulpine shakes
#781 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> What if you place a block over another block? lighting has to be recalculated for the block below it, and nearby blocks
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#783 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Then, chunk update, and now that whole chunk info has to be saved locally.. and resent to clients near it
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#786 [13:28] <Fum> Yeah.... But I haven't got to that part yet. The server doesn't allow me to dig and lags until the player pings out :p
#787 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Yeah..
#788 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> There are a few re-writes of the server application, some people try to develop minecraft using a different language. Bravo is one, using python, I believe.
#789 [13:31] <Fum> Godspeed to them.
#790 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> But, Notch should be flying back to sweden by now, after the Mojang team was at GDC accepting awards.
#791 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> So, hopefully, we'll see another update soon.
#792 [13:34] <Forge> yey!
#793 [13:34] * Forge wants her puppies.
#793 [13:37] <fogWraith> GreyVulpine, tried Bravo?
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#795 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Nope, haven't tried it yet
#796 [13:37] <xikau> hi
#797 [13:37] <fogWraith> I slapped it on a VM yesterday to simulate a crappy computer, it performed extremely well
#798 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#799 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> 'lo xikau
#800 [13:38] <fogWraith> It's missing mobs, some basic things like trees though
#801 [13:38] <xikau> For some reason I can't play classic mode. It says fatal error 7. Help please.
#802 [13:38] <fogWraith> Let me get it online for you, and you can jump on and see how it works for you
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#804 [13:40] <xikau> someone help me?
#805 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> xikau - is there anything else?
#806 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> That's the whole error?
#807 [13:40] <xikau> An error occured while loading the applet, please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occured (7):com.mojang.minecraft.MinecraftApplet
#808 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> First thing you can try, is clearing your browser's cache.
#809 [13:42] <xikau> i have tried
#810 [13:42] <xikau> dont work
#811 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Looked at your browser's temp/cache folder, and deleted any folders that had "minecraft.net" or "www.minecraft.net" in them?
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#813 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, then a reinstall of java is in order.
#814 [13:43] <xikau> where is temp/cache?
#815 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what browser you're using
#816 [13:46] <xikau> i can`t find that :s
#817 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> What browser are you using? It should say in the toolbar up at the top
#818 [13:48] <xikau> mozilla anda google chrome
#819 [13:48] <xikau> and
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#822 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> xikau - Then um, if neither browser works after clearing the cache entirely..
#823 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall of java
#824 [13:54] <fogWraith> GreyVulpine, come join me ;)
#825 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Blarg?
#826 [13:55] <wildfire100> hey guys, i am running ubuntu OS and my mine craft is really slow, whether im on a server or not. My specs are by far good enough to play, but for some reason my minecraft is still lagging quite a bit. Can someone please help me resolve this problem?
#827 [13:55] <fogWraith> Details in ze PM
#828 [13:56] <wildfire100> ???
#829 [13:57] <Fum> wildfire100, please state your specs.
#830 [13:57] <wildfire100> 3gb ram, i3 proccessor 250gb laptop
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#832 [13:58] <Fum> And you are using Sun Java, not the open source version?
#833 [13:58] <wildfire100> i am using java jdk
#834 [14:00] <wildfire100> ??
#835 [14:01] <wildfire100> do u know how i can fix the lag??
#836 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried turning down the graphics level? turn off smooth lighting in-game?
#837 [14:02] <wildfire100> yes, even on tiny it lags
#838 [14:03] <wildfire100> ???
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#840 [14:03] <Addonem> hello?
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#842 [14:03] <Addonem> can somebody help me?
#843 [14:04] <Mash> ??> addonem ask
#844 [14:04] <VoxelHead> addonem: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#845 [14:04] <VoxelHead> addonem: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#846 [14:04] <Addonem> my friend cant connect to any online servers, and yes he has bought the game, he played with me and my friends before
#847 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> Addonem: you might want to send your firend ehre so that we can help em directly.
#848 [14:05] <wildfire100> GreyVulpine, do you know what the problem is?
#849 [14:05] <Addonem> and now he just gets the: Connecting to the server, please wait...
#850 [14:05] <Addonem> he dont have IRC
#851 [14:05] <Addonem> and dont know how to use it
#852 [14:05] <Addonem> we have reinstalled minecraft at his computer
#853 [14:05] <Addonem> all he can do is play single player:( 2 days ago he could play with us at the same account
#854 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> when you say 'reinstalled minecraft', do you mean deleting the bin directory, or just the .exe file?
#855 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> wildfire100 - I wouldn't know where to being, I'm not as much of a *nix guru as some of the other people on here
#856 [14:06] <Addonem> deleting the .minecraft folder
#857 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> Addonem: this is Windows I presume?
#858 [14:06] <wildfire100> any body help with my question above?
#859 [14:06] <Addonem> DopeGhoti: yes
#860 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> ??> Addonem win/profile
#861 [14:06] <VoxelHead> Addonem: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#862 [14:06] <VoxelHead> Addonem: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#863 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> wildfire100: what GPU drivers have you got installed, if any?
#864 [14:07] <wildfire100> i dont think i have any, im not sure
#865 [14:07] <wildfire100> how would i find out?
#866 [14:07] <Addonem> VoxelHead: so you say my friend got to rebuy minecraft?
#867 [14:08] <Mash> Addonem; windows accounts (login accounts) not minecraft.net accounts
#868 [14:08] <Addonem> oh
#869 [14:08] <wildfire100> DopeGhoti, ?
#870 [14:08] <Addonem> I'll try that
#871 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> wildfire100: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers IIRC
#872 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> wildfire100: what GPU has your system got?
#873 [14:10] <wildfire100> how do i find out
#874 [14:10] <Mash> er.. mollstam's in the chan?
#875 [14:10] <wildfire100> , there isnt an option for Hardware Drivers IIRC
#876 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Indeed he is Mash
#877 [14:11] <wildfire100> DopeGhoti, ?
#878 [14:11] <Mash> wildfire100, IIRC = "If I Recall Correctly"
#879 [14:12] <Mash> wildfire100, you're just looking for anything that looks like "Hardware Drivers"
#880 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> (or something similar)
#881 [14:12] <wildfire100> additional drivers
#882 [14:13] <wildfire100> ???
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#884 [14:13] <wildfire100> DopeGhoti,
#885 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> wildfire100: that may be it
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#887 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> Probably is in fact.
#888 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> all right then.
#889 [14:14] * fogWraith dumps ze url @ GreyVulpine
#889 [14:14] <Mash> DopeGhoti, love people like that.
#890 [14:15] <conceptc> hey there can somebody help me and tell me why my minecraft is continiously crashing in multiplayermode?
#891 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> conceptc - Getting any error reports you can share with us?
#892 [14:16] <conceptc> nope the window freezes and then it shuts down but there is no report
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#894 [14:16] <conceptc> same on my friends account
#895 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> conceptc: running any mods, or texture packs, or anything?
#896 [14:16] <Dessos> Hello
#897 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall of minecraft? Go to the options button in the launcher and "Force game update"
#898 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo Dessos
#899 [14:17] <Dessos> Can anyone help me?
#900 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#901 [14:17] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#902 [14:17] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#903 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> brb foodin-ing.
#904 [14:17] <Dessos> mkay
#905 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> mmm, food
#906 [14:18] <conceptc> did already reinstall it, is it possible that the server causes this problem?
#907 [14:20] <Dessos> I've created a Minecraft Server. But no one can access the server: They get.. internal exception java.net.sockettimeoutexception read timed out
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#911 [14:21] <conceptc> did already reinstall it, is it possible that the server causes this problem?
#912 [14:22] <conceptc> and im not running any mods, texture packs or sth else
#913 [14:22] <Addonem> @VoxelHead: it did not work to change users and download minecraft from there so I guess it is something with his system? but I cant get why it doesnt work since it worked 2 days ago
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#916 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> Addonem: something must have changed between then and now.
#917 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> conceptc: what OS and version of Java?
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#920 [14:24] <Addonem> @DopeGhoti: so what can I do now?
#921 [14:24] <conceptc> win7/java Version 6 Update 24
#922 [14:24] <conceptc> there have been no problem since yesterday when minecraft.net was down
#923 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> conceptc win/profile
#924 [14:25] <VoxelHead> conceptc: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#925 [14:25] <VoxelHead> conceptc: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#926 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> Addonem: you could try reinstalling Java perhaaps
#927 [14:25] <Addonem> okey
#928 [14:26] <conceptc> well a friend of mine got the same problem at this server
#929 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> conceptc: have you tried any other servers?
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#931 [14:27] <conceptc> nope will try this now
#932 [14:27] <conceptc> anyone got an ip i can use?
#933 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers
#934 [14:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: This is by no means an official server list, but you can find a list of public servers here: http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/
#935 [14:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#936 [14:28] <Morrolan> Another popular serverlist is mcserverlist.net , for completness' sake.
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#938 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> ??~ smp/servers:There are by no means official server lists, but you can find some public servers at http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/ or http://www.mcserverlist.net/;;You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#939 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> thanks, Morrolan
#940 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> oops
#941 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> ??~ smp/servers|There are by no means official server lists, but you can find some public servers at http://minecraft.abyssal-legion.com/serverstatus/ or http://www.mcserverlist.net/;;You can also ask if there are any server admins in #SMP looking for new players.
#942 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> there
#943 [14:32] <Morrolan> :)
#944 [14:33] <conceptc> i think the server causes the problem because theres no crash on an other server
#945 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> conceptc: a reasonable conclusion
#946 [14:36] <conceptc> so we need to reset the server, thanks for helping :)
#947 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> conceptc: my pleasure
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#949 [14:40] <Addonem> @DopeGhoti: still doesnt work, my progress: 1. Reinstall Minecraft
#950 [14:40] <Addonem> 2. remove bin folder
#951 [14:40] <Addonem> 3. change profile in windows
#952 [14:40] <Addonem> 4. reinstall java
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#954 [14:42] <JimSki> gray i pmed you
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#959 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Back.
#960 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> What's up JimSki?
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#963 [14:51] <mib_gxnr6c> Hello
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#965 [14:52] <zw> Do anyone know a simple code for my homepage to show if the server is online/offline?
#966 [14:52] <mib_gxnr6c> Does anyone have any information or news about the memory leak issue?
#967 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_gxnr6c - Don't really have anything for you there.
#968 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> mib_gxnr6c: what is your page coded in?
#969 [14:53] * GreyVulpine points DopeGhoti at zw
#969 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> sorry, zw: what is your page coded in?
#970 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> mib_gxnr6c: which memory leak issue?
#971 [14:53] <mib_gxnr6c> Is the memory leak thing a known issue?
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#973 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_gxnr6c - http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/smp_server_memory_leak
#974 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#975 [14:55] <zw> DopeGhoti, php, can use html
#976 [14:55] <zw> its a joomla page
#977 [14:56] <mib_gxnr6c> Thank you for the link GreyVulpine
#978 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> zw: I'll have some code for you in a second
#979 [14:56] <zw> Great :-D
#980 [14:56] <zw> just thinking of having a module with a [ONLINE] [OFFLINE] image ^^^
#981 [14:56] <mib_gxnr6c> I hope he knows its not just a server issue, but an all 1.3 issue
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#983 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> zw: http://pastebin.com/sAYZ16DY
#984 [14:58] <zw> cool, tnx, il test it now ;)
#985 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> Just plink the relevant <img> tag info in the then/else blocks
#986 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> (in place of the echos)
#987 [14:59] <zw> u r pro ;)
#988 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> @line 7: s/fp/sock/
#989 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> That script will time out after ten seconds; change the last argument on line 2 for a longer or shorter wait.
#990 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> (one could argue that if your server answers, but only after three seconds, it's not worth reporting as 'up') (:
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#992 [15:02] <Mash> DopeGhoti, you ever mess with MC's code? Trying to find the font drawing routines
#993 [15:03] <zw> Ok :)
#994 [15:03] <zw> posible to make it html?
#995 [15:03] <zw> does not seem to work as php :s
#996 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> Mash: I haven't taken the time to learn Java yet
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#998 [15:05] <zw> sope, is that posible?
#999 [15:05] <zw> dope*
#1000 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> zw: http://pastebin.com/HY4e3c17
#1001 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> A test like that with straight HTML isn't doable, but it might be with JavaScript, which I'm less conversant with.
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#1004 [15:07] <zw> Javascript do work
#1005 [15:07] <zw> Posible to get it in html?
#1006 [15:08] <Mash> omfug, font is actually a png and they're ripping coords out of it. /cry
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#1009 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> zw: again, I'm not that conversant in JavaScript. I just tested the PHP code, and it works for me
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#1012 [15:12] <Twelve-60> can someone explain what exactly input/ouput isolocation means regarding restone circuits?
#1013 [15:13] <Twelve-60> isolation*
#1014 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1015 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> I'd imagine the same thing it'd mean anywhere else: that your input and output lines don't cross-contaminate.
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#1017 [15:14] <Twelve-60> they are seperate entries, i.e. 'output isloation: yes, input isolocation: no'
#1018 [15:15] <secondsoul> wait minecraft.net is down?
#1019 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#1020 [15:15] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1021 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1022 [15:15] <secondsoul> oh I thought I saw a message from aubot or something
#1023 [15:15] <Mash> GreyVulpine, you ever peek at MC code?
#1024 [15:15] <Twelve-60> why do i keept saying isolocation :P
#1025 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Good god no.
#1026 [15:15] <Mash> Er, why not?
#1027 [15:16] <Mash> It's actually rather clean.
#1028 [15:16] <secondsoul> I have problem with my server can I get help here?
#1029 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> I've only briefly gone over java, I'm more of a c/c++ guy
#1030 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> ??> secondsoul ask
#1031 [15:16] <VoxelHead> secondsoul: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1032 [15:16] <VoxelHead> secondsoul: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1033 [15:16] <JimSki> gray
#1034 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
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#1036 [15:17] <secondsoul> I am the admin on my server and have essentials (so /god) but even when Im not god I still am invincable
#1037 [15:17] <Twelve-60> so I still have no idea what input isolation means :P
#1038 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> secondsoul: there is no /god command.
#1039 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> essentials.. you're running bukkit?
#1040 [15:17] <secondsoul> if you have essentials there is :p
#1041 [15:17] <secondsoul> yeah bukkit
#1042 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> Twelve-60: isolate (v): to make all by itself.
#1043 [15:17] <JimSki> pm me please
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#1045 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> secondsoul mods
#1046 [15:17] <VoxelHead> secondsoul: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1047 [15:17] <VoxelHead> secondsoul: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1048 [15:17] <Decree> hey
#1049 [15:17] <mollekolle> i cant seem to log in to my server :S
#1050 [15:17] <Decree> got a wierd mac question
#1051 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> Decree ask
#1052 [15:18] <VoxelHead> Decree: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1053 [15:18] <VoxelHead> Decree: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1054 [15:18] <Twelve-60> DopeGhoti: but what does that mean? how do non-isolated outputs behave?
#1055 [15:18] <JimSki> greg pm me i need a hand
#1056 [15:18] <Decree> would you guys know how I can stop a terminal process on my computer that I am SSHd into?
#1057 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> mollekolle: what happens when you try?
#1058 [15:18] <mollekolle> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.3
#1059 [15:18] <mollekolle> [INFO] Loading properties
#1060 [15:18] <mollekolle> [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 84.209.49.63:25565
#1061 [15:18] <mollekolle> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#1062 [15:18] <mollekolle> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#1063 [15:18] <mollekolle> [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#1064 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Decree - ps aux for a list of processes
#1065 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> then kill -9 the id
#1066 [15:18] <secondsoul> oh okay thanks
#1067 [15:18] <Mash> GreyVulpine, Perl and VB.NET here, but once you know 2-3 languages, it's easy to follow others.
#1068 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> Twelve-60: I'd imagine that if the outputs were non-isolated, then if any of the outputs are hot, all of the outputs are hot.
#1069 [15:18] <secondsoul> molle: I used to always have that problem
#1070 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Mash - I know, I just have a slight hatred for java.
#1071 [15:19] <Decree> im sshd with cyberduck
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#1073 [15:19] <secondsoul> In server.properties is your ip there?
#1074 [15:19] <mollekolle> k?
#1075 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Bad college class experience.
#1076 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> ??> mollekolle bindport
#1077 [15:19] <mollekolle> whay do i do?
#1078 [15:19] <VoxelHead> mollekolle: (bindport) If you get a message about being unable to "bind to port", one of two things is happening: Either you are starting a Minecraft server when you already have one running, or you have specified an IP address in server.properties that does not exist on your server. The server-ip line of server.properties should in nearly all cases remain blank.
#1079 [15:19] <Decree> so i guess i need to use terminal on my macbook to ssh and stop a terminal command on my imac?
#1080 [15:19] <Mash> GreyVulpine, I think the only people that /don't/ hate java all work at Mojang lol
#1081 [15:19] <mollekolle> k thx ill try
#1082 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure java is a wonderful language, once you get to know it..
#1083 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> But I just can't stomach it
#1084 [15:20] <Twelve-60> DopeGhoti: hmm ok
#1085 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Decree: is the process you want to kill on your macbook?
#1086 [15:20] <Decree> no
#1087 [15:20] <Decree> its on the imac
#1088 [15:21] <Decree> is this not possible
#1089 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> Decree: okay, so ssh into the iMac
#1090 [15:21] <Decree> basically DopeGhoti i want to stop the server and then start it using the command file
#1091 [15:21] <mollekolle> server works, but i only get connection timed out
#1092 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> Decree: then use, if you want to use a shotgun, `killall -9 java`
#1093 [15:21] <secondsoul> try a few times, also maybe your ip has changed does it say in log that you disconnected?
#1094 [15:22] <Decree> sweet
#1095 [15:22] <Decree> ill tell you how that goes
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#1099 [15:23] <mib_k3f2o0> !test 98.229.254.89
#1100 [15:23] <Decree> thanks DopeGhoti
#1101 [15:23] <Decree> worked
#1102 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> mib_k3f2o0: you mean '!check'
#1103 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> Decree: excellent
#1104 [15:23] <mollekolle> nope it doesn't say that i have disconnected
#1105 [15:23] <mib_k3f2o0> !check 98.229.254.89
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#1107 [15:24] <mib_k3f2o0> !test 98.229.254.89
#1108 [15:24] <secondsoul> molle: your ip has probably changed go to whatismyip
#1109 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> ??+ ip/external|Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1110 [15:25] <mib_k3f2o0> !check 98.229.254.89
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#1112 [15:26] <Decree> @ DopeGhoti to use a .command file what is the terminal command?
#1113 [15:26] <Decree> stupid Q
#1114 [15:26] <Decree> i jsut dont want to mess up
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#1116 [15:26] <mib_k3f2o0> !test 98.229.254.89
#1117 [15:26] <mib_k3f2o0> !check 98.229.254.89
#1118 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> Decree: meaning a shell script?
#1119 [15:27] <Decree> like i just want to run it
#1120 [15:27] <Decree> the launch server .command file
#1121 [15:27] <Decree> im in the directory
#1122 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> Decree: to execute a shell script that's in the current directory, use `./filename`
#1123 [15:27] <Decree> ./ ?
#1124 [15:27] <Decree> ok
#1125 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> './' specifies "the current directory", which is not usually in $PATH
#1126 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> (this is to prevent mean people from giving you a malicios script called, say, 'ls'.
#1127 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> )
#1128 [15:28] <Decree> WOAH
#1129 [15:28] <Decree> it worked
#1130 [15:28] <Decree> i love you
#1131 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8.
#1132 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1133 [15:28] <Decree> beer in the mail
#1134 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Cheers!
#1135 [15:28] <Decree> this is perfect
#1136 [15:28] <Decree> hey i have anohter question
#1137 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> fire away
#1138 [15:29] <KentBallz> mash can you help me again :)
#1139 [15:29] <Decree> i have some program that is forcing my imac (being used as server) to shutdown
#1140 [15:29] <Mash> KentBallz, I'll help with technical aspects of getting the game up and running, but not gameplay issues.. Sorry :(
#1141 [15:29] <Decree> how do i prevent this
#1142 [15:29] <Decree> since it is backend i never know which one
#1143 [15:30] <Decree> usually its ok as long as terminal is open running things
#1144 [15:30] <mollekolle> i checked my ip and typed it in, im still getting connection timed out is there another server i can try?
#1145 [15:30] <Decree> but now that terminal is ssh on my macbook pro
#1146 [15:30] <Decree> im worried
#1147 [15:30] <Decree> ideas?
#1148 [15:30] <KentBallz> ahh crap I'm trying to figure out how to build traps and its a bit frustrating haha
#1149 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Decree: hmm, you could check the system's logs to see of there's anything unusual therein
#1150 [15:30] <Mash> KentBallz, That's one of the reasons I said what I did.. I've never built a mobtrap.. Don't think I ever will.
#1151 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Decree: do others have access to the computer?
#1152 [15:30] <Decree> its def some maintence program
#1153 [15:30] <Decree> only ssh atm
#1154 [15:31] <mollekolle> system log??
#1155 [15:31] <mollekolle> :S
#1156 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> Decree: there's no built-in automated matintenance which will shut the system down
#1157 [15:31] <Mash> KentBallz, GreyVulpine pretty much my 'hero' in here, dude has an answer to ever question I've asked him so far lol
#1158 [15:31] <Mash> every, even
#1159 [15:31] <Decree> its not built in i think its a program i installed but im not sure which or what
#1160 [15:31] <Decree> its all backen
#1161 [15:31] <Decree> backend
#1162 [15:31] <KentBallz> mash alrighty I'll try and pick his brain when he gets on
#1163 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Decree: so I'd go through the programs you've installed then. you could also check to see if one of them is using a cron table
#1164 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> (log in and run `sudo crontab -l`
#1165 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> )
#1166 [15:32] <Decree> thru ssh?
#1167 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Decree: yes, anything you do through SSH you're doing on the machine you're shelled into
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#1169 [15:33] <JustBeKause> Hi
#1170 [15:33] <JustBeKause> Anyone here?
#1171 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> no one here but us chickens.
#1172 [15:34] <JustBeKause> anyone understand anythign about portals?
#1173 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> Speedy thing goes in; speedy thing comes out.
#1174 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> Beware AIs promising cake.
#1175 [15:34] <JustBeKause> sigh
#1176 [15:34] <JustBeKause> no in minecraft.
#1177 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> What about it JustBeKause?
#1178 [15:35] <JustBeKause> I have a portal in an SMP server
#1179 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> Could you perhaps ask your question directly then?
#1180 [15:35] <JustBeKause> it's operational
#1181 [15:35] <JustBeKause> yes.
#1182 [15:35] <JustBeKause> but i can't ge tot the nether
#1183 [15:35] <JustBeKause> allll other portals woerk
#1184 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/nether
#1185 [15:35] <VoxelHead> smp/nether: Presently, due to the way the Nether is implemented, it does not work in Multiplayer servers (server mods notwithstanding).
#1186 [15:35] <JustBeKause> work*
#1187 [15:35] <JustBeKause> yes it works.
#1188 [15:35] <JustBeKause> In SMP.
#1189 [15:35] <JustBeKause> for oveer a month now.
#1190 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> The server is modded, then
#1191 [15:35] <JustBeKause> nope.
#1192 [15:35] <JustBeKause> straight up vanilla.
#1193 [15:35] <JustBeKause> so anyways.
#1194 [15:36] <JustBeKause> All portals work
#1195 [15:36] <JustBeKause> except mine
#1196 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> Then the portal will not transport you to the nether.
#1197 [15:36] <JustBeKause> when i stand in it nothing happens
#1198 [15:36] <JustBeKause> yes
#1199 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> "work" is defined in our language as operational
#1200 [15:36] <JustBeKause> most of them do
#1201 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> And it won't happen.
#1202 [15:36] <JustBeKause> ..
#1203 [15:36] <JustBeKause> All portals work
#1204 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> The portal in SMP has the purple texture when you put fire to it
#1205 [15:36] <JustBeKause> yeah
#1206 [15:36] <JustBeKause> i know
#1207 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> Portals. Do not. Move things to the Nether. In SMP.
#1208 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> But it doesn't "WORK"
#1209 [15:36] <JustBeKause> Dope
#1210 [15:36] <JustBeKause> shut up.
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#1212 [15:36] <JustBeKause> Hi again grey
#1213 [15:36] <JustBeKause> I was on ages ago
#1214 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Easy there.
#1215 [15:36] <JustBeKause> anyways
#1216 [15:36] <JustBeKause> eveyr portal works
#1217 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Dope is right.
#1218 [15:36] <JustBeKause> exxcept mine
#1219 [15:36] <JustBeKause> no
#1220 [15:37] <JustBeKause> mine lights up
#1221 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't transport you to the nether.
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#1223 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Not in vanilla
#1224 [15:37] <JustBeKause> ...
#1225 [15:37] <JustBeKause> where'd i go then
#1226 [15:37] <JustBeKause> happy papy land?
#1227 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> If any portals "do" anything other than make wibbly noises, the server is modded.
#1228 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> You most likely went to a server that's modded
#1229 [15:37] <JustBeKause> then so be it
#1230 [15:37] <JustBeKause> so in said server
#1231 [15:37] <JustBeKause> why would a portal not work?
#1232 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Check out the bukkit mod, with multi-verse
#1233 [15:37] <JustBeKause> when all others do
#1234 [15:37] <JustBeKause> yeah prolly
#1235 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> The bukkit team have modded the server to make portals "work"
#1236 [15:37] <JustBeKause> ah
#1237 [15:38] <JustBeKause> and they do
#1238 [15:38] <JustBeKause> except this oneeeee portal
#1239 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> But that functionality does not exist currently in vanilla SMP
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#1242 [15:38] <JustBeKause> k...
#1243 [15:38] <JustBeKause> so you have no idea how to help then
#1244 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Simple answer. If you're running vanilla SMP, portals don't not transport you to the nether. Multi-worlds don't work in vanilla
#1245 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> They just don't. None do
#1246 [15:38] <KentBallz> greyvulpine mash directed me your way said you know all :) would you have any knowledge on how to make traps and another thing thats really been bugging me is redstone
#1247 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> KentBallz - All depends on what you want to do.
#1248 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Give me a problem, I'll provide you a solution
#1249 [15:39] <Mash> KentBallz, told ya. >,>;
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#1251 [15:39] <JustBeKause> ..
#1252 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> Well, he took that well.
#1253 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Meh
#1254 [15:41] <KentBallz> :D well I built a castle and I want to put a moat around it but I want the water to flow around the castle and down into a collection room so that when baddies try to come in they fall in the water drown and their stuff ends up in the collection room
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#1256 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Okay, that's pretty simple, you just gotta play with the water currents a bit so you force mobs underwater to drown them. There's quite a few videos on youtube showcasing probably dozens of water trap designs.
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#1258 [15:44] <KentBallz> ok and another question I had was how do you rig up one pressure pad to open a set of double doors
#1259 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Well, with a double set of doors, you'll want one hooked up directly to the pressure plate, and one going through a NOT gate to open up the other side
#1260 [15:45] <KentBallz> ok I'm assuming I can find the not gate online?
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#1262 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> A not gate is nothing more than a wire going to a block, and on the other side, a redstone torch attached to said block
#1263 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Then a wire leading from it
#1264 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> That inverts whatever signal is going through it
#1265 [15:47] <Decree> hey DopeGhoti
#1266 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits
#1267 [15:47] <Decree> i stepped away
#1268 [15:47] <Decree> back now
#1269 [15:47] <KentBallz> ah ha! thats what I've been trying to do forever
#1270 [15:47] <Decree> but when i type that command
#1271 [15:47] <Decree> it says no crontab for root
#1272 [15:47] <Decree> ideas?
#1273 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Decree: then it's not a cron job shutting down the machine.. It must be some app or another
#1274 [15:52] <Decree> yeah
#1275 [15:52] <Decree> it is
#1276 [15:52] <Decree> but
#1277 [15:53] <Decree> how do i find which one
#1278 [15:53] <Decree> thru ssh haha
#1279 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> Decree: I have no way of knowing what you have installed on the system, so.. You'll have to log in and poke around
#1280 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> Hmm.
#1281 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> You're going from one mac to another, yes?
#1282 [15:53] <Decree> yeah
#1283 [15:53] <Decree> im away for a week after tonight
#1284 [15:53] <Decree> so i want to make sure the server is up
#1285 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> I can't recall, does OSX include the desktop sharing app?
#1286 [15:53] <Decree> while im away
#1287 [15:53] <Decree> i think
#1288 [15:53] <Decree> vnc type thing?
#1289 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> yeah
#1290 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> only, the one built into OSX
#1291 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> you could use that to futz with the GUI apps and System Prefs to see what the problem child is.
#1292 [15:58] <Decree> yeah ill just wait
#1293 [15:58] <Decree> ill be at the server comp for 20 mins in 2 hours
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#1295 [15:58] <Decree> ill try to sort everything once and for all then
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#1300 [16:10] <Mash> GreyVulpine: if (!this.w) throw new IllegalStateException("Not tesselating!");
#1301 [16:10] <Mash> I think I know an upcoming feature.
#1302 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Moo?
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#1307 [16:34] <Mash> GreyVulpine, bovine?
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#1309 [16:39] <Mash> By the time I fix the fontsize calculations, Notch will be ready to pump out the next version.
#1310 [16:39] <Mash> Then I'll have to sift through 400 class files again :'(
#1311 [16:40] <sublimelabs> How do I change the server map with the original server software?
#1312 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> For beta?
#1313 [16:41] <sublimelabs> Yes
#1314 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Replace the "world" folder
#1315 [16:41] <sublimelabs> I tried multiple times last night, but it just kept creating a new world
#1316 [16:41] <sublimelabs> The entire folder?
#1317 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Define "change the server map"
#1318 [16:41] <sublimelabs> Change it to a downloaded map
#1319 [16:41] <sublimelabs> I have a fallout map
#1320 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> First, make sure it's a survival, beta map, then delete the 'world' folder, and replace it with the one you downloaded
#1321 [16:43] <sublimelabs> Got it
#1322 [16:48] <sublimelabs> And it worked! Many thanks
#1323 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Mmhmm
#1324 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> Even thanked you in the /quit message. How nice.
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#1326 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> zw: Any luck?
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#1328 [16:52] <lasse> is it possible to st a spwanpoint on a minecraft server??
#1329 [16:54] <lasse> ???
#1330 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1331 [16:54] <lasse> how
#1332 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Requires either a mod to do it while the server is running, or you can use a map editor. I recommend MCedit myself
#1333 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> or just use a bed; isn't that supposed to reset your spawn location?
#1334 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Does it do it yet? I haven't tried
#1335 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> nor have I
#1336 [16:55] <lasse> i can try now
#1337 [16:56] <lasse> now, it dosent
#1338 [16:57] <lasse> how do i use the map editor???
#1339 [16:58] <lasse> an where do i find it
#1340 [16:58] <lasse> ??????
#1341 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
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#1344 [17:09] <lasse> how can i move op and down in the map editor
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#1346 [17:11] <lasse> ????????
#1347 [17:11] <lasse> ?
#1348 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> q and z I believe?
#1349 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Or hold down your middle mouse button to freelock
#1350 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> then wasd
#1351 [17:12] <lasse> aa i found it, hold right butten
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#1353 [17:14] <LaBarata> Hey, is anyone in here?
#1354 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1355 [17:14] <LaBarata> Damn
#1356 [17:14] <LaBarata> Ah well
#1357 [17:14] <LaBarata> I'm new to running a server, and I'm having a couple of issues
#1358 [17:14] <LaBarata> Any way you can help me?
#1359 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> What's up?
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#1361 [17:15] <LaBarata> Basically, whenever I try to login from the downloaded client, I get kicked and it says "You need to login!" in the server window
#1362 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> You're running a beta client?
#1363 [17:15] <Roll> hey quick question any way i can measure how long one point to another point is on a server? and whats a good border plugin?
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#1365 [17:16] <LaBarata> Yeah, I think so
#1366 [17:16] <iamweirdie> !check element626.homeip.net
#1367 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> LaBarata - That error usually occurs because you're using a beta client, to log into a server running classic
#1368 [17:16] <LaBarata> I'm running the file that I got off the website
#1369 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> You need to get the beta server from here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1370 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#1371 [17:16] <LaBarata> Yeah, that's the one I downloaded
#1372 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Check again
#1373 [17:16] <LaBarata> Alright
#1374 [17:17] <LaBarata> The minecraft_server.exe one?
#1375 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes LaBarata
#1376 [17:17] <LaBarata> Alright
#1377 [17:17] <iamweirdie> does anybody have experience with bukkit
#1378 [17:17] <LaBarata> I think that's the one I got, but I'll re dl
#1379 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Roll - I'm not really familiar with custom minecraft servers, check #bukkit
#1380 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> They'll be able to help you better there
#1381 [17:18] <Roll> kay i tried
#1382 [17:18] <Roll> ty
#1383 [17:18] <LaBarata> Nope, this is a completely different one. Thanks, I appreciate your help
#1384 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing LaBarata
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#1386 [17:19] <LaBarata> Actually, I've got two more questions
#1387 [17:20] <LaBarata> Firstly, how do you get it to run a SMP server?
#1388 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> When you run minecraft_server.exe, it'll be an SMP server
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#1390 [17:20] <LaBarata> Alright, thanks
#1391 [17:20] <LaBarata> And one last thing
#1392 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Classic, the one you first started with start-server.bat, was the free, creative server
#1393 [17:20] <LaBarata> Ah, alright
#1394 [17:21] <LaBarata> I'll ask again as soon as I remember my second question
#1395 [17:21] <LaBarata> lol
#1396 [17:21] <LaBarata> Oh, that's right
#1397 [17:21] <LaBarata> Whenever I run minecraft, the opening screen is all fuzzy
#1398 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> fuzzy?
#1399 [17:21] <LaBarata> Do you know what causes that?
#1400 [17:21] <LaBarata> Yeah
#1401 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me a screenshot or something?
#1402 [17:22] <LaBarata> Alright, hold on a moment
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#1404 [17:24] <LaBarata> http://img228.imageshack.us/i/minecraftscreenfuzzy.png/
#1405 [17:24] <ArmEagle> Pacer do I know you (/ you me, then I you)?
#1406 [17:24] <LaBarata> There's a screenshot of what I mean
#1407 [17:24] <LaBarata> It starts clear, but then turns to that
#1408 [17:24] <Pacer> i don't think i know you
#1409 [17:24] <Pacer> why do you ask
#1410 [17:25] <ArmEagle> ok, could have been :)
#1411 [17:25] <ArmEagle> other Pacer then
#1412 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. hmm.
#1413 [17:26] <LaBarata> It doesn't really affect anything, it's just sorta weird
#1414 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> You're not using some sort of texture mod... or anything are you?
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#1416 [17:27] <LaBarata> Nope
#1417 [17:27] <LaBarata> It's a fresh install
#1418 [17:27] <Mash> Anyone in here good/great with java?
#1419 [17:27] <LaBarata> Well, not install, but I haven't done anything to it
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#1421 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, but try redownloading the files, you can go to the launcher, and in "options", there's a button to "force game update". That'll force minecraft to redownload fresh files
#1422 [17:28] <LaBarata> Alright, I'll give it a try
#1423 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> I'd start with that...
#1424 [17:28] <LaBarata> Nope, same as always
#1425 [17:28] <LaBarata> Starts clear, then goes fuzzy
#1426 [17:28] <mib_pgdohi> Hi is there a possibility to get minecraft using less Ram ? It tooks over 1 GB for me and laggs on my notebook, cause it has even 1 gb
#1427 [17:29] <Mash> mib_pgdohi, there isn't, sorry :(
#1428 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_pgdohi - Yes, if you download the .jar
#1429 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> You can, with the arguments, specify how much RAM it uses
#1430 [17:29] <Mash> GreyVulpine, it's still gonna suck up all his memory.. or, run like crap.
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#1432 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily.
#1433 [17:29] <mib_pgdohi> it helps ? tryed the .exe but that didn't realy helps
#1434 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> The exe will take 512megs at startup, and go up to a gig.
#1435 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> It's just a wrapper for the .jar
#1436 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> If you download the .jar, you can specify how much RAM java will take
#1437 [17:30] * zw OMG Fehosting.com sucks. In 7 days, my server has ben online 2 days because of them.
#1437 [17:30] <Mash> Idk.. I feed my client 2gbs, and run it off a ramdisk. If I let it (and I've tried) It'll eat 4gbs.
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#1439 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it might suck, but there's a chance it won't run as crappily.
#1440 [17:30] <mib_pgdohi> yea, i've got 1 gb but windows takes a bit (350 mb ) so it laggs ;(
#1441 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> LaBarata - Sorry, I don't know. I haven't seen this happen with minecraft.
#1442 [17:31] <LaBarata> Alright, thank
#1443 [17:31] <LaBarata> s
#1444 [17:31] <LaBarata> It's only on the main menu, so it's not really a problem
#1445 [17:31] <mib_pgdohi> Is it a source problem ? i mean there are other games with much more effects eg and they run at 1 gb
#1446 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_pgdohi - No, it's just how minecraft runs. It's actually a rather RAM-intensive program
#1447 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Try the .jar from here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1448 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Instructions are on the page, on how to launch it
#1449 [17:32] <mib_pgdohi> hmmm any possibility to get more ram ? will some "virtual ram" help ?
#1450 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> The -Xms argument is how much RAM java starts off with. The -Xmx argument is the max minecraft will take
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#1453 [17:32] <Mash> GreyVulpine; I actually found where it's reading, sizing and puking out the font to screen. It's hardcoded 16pixels
#1454 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Virtual RAM won't help. It's basically swap.
#1455 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Once your computer has run out of RAM, it copies the stuff not immediately needed to your hard drive.
#1456 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Once it's needed again, it copies it back to RAM... this is swapping.. and is slow.
#1457 [17:33] <mib_pgdohi> yeah okay
#1458 [17:33] <mib_pgdohi> i understand
#1459 [17:33] <Mash> mib_pgdohi, it's not the most ideal solution, but Windows can use USB thumbdrives as ghetto-RAM >,>
#1460 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Heh, ghetto ram
#1461 [17:34] <Mathuin> In the dark ages, I once used cartridge tape as swap space. My computer sounded like a terminal emphysema patient.
#1462 [17:34] <Mash> mib_pgdohi, and depending on where you live, thumbdrives are dirt cheap.
#1463 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear
#1464 [17:34] <Mathuin> But that was when a 4M stick of ram cost $10k.
#1465 [17:34] <Mash> EDO was win.
#1466 [17:35] <LaBarata> Oh, one last question I had, is it possible to run a world created offline on a server?
#1467 [17:35] <mib_pgdohi> I'v seen it on my server, installed minecraft on my debian server and it tooks all the ram ;( Now the server is laggy, i've there 1 gb ram and 1 gb swap but it's still laggy with only one person playing
#1468 [17:35] <Mash> mib_pgdohi, I run my server with 6GBs of ram and any more than 5-6 people wandering around, it'll start bogging down.
#1469 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> If you only have 1gb of ram, and your minecraft server, if you're using the command line from minecraft.net, it'll grab all that ram for itself
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#1471 [17:36] <LaBarata> GreyVulpine: It just fixed itself, lol
#1472 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> That's.. funky.
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#1474 [17:37] <mib_pgdohi> it's stupid, everyone said cool browsergame buy it and now everything is laggy ;) Only on my gaming pc it works fine in singleplayer or on good mp servers
#1475 [17:37] <Mathuin> It's an awesome game. I wish I could play it on my PS3 instead of my PC.
#1476 [17:38] <mib_pgdohi> maybe hoster sells a little bit more Ram
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#1478 [17:38] <LaBarata> But yeah, is there any way to play a world I created in single player on a server?
#1479 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Just because you see simple graphics, doesn't mean that minecraft is a cpu and RAM-lite process.
#1480 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes LaBarata. Just copy the single player world over to your server
#1481 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> rename accordingly.
#1482 [17:38] <Mash> Mathuin, blasphemy! PC > All.
#1483 [17:38] <LaBarata> I know I'm sounding like a total idiot now, but where, exactly, is the server world file? -_-;
#1484 [17:39] <Mash> LaBarata, the entire world folder.
#1485 [17:39] <mib_pgdohi> Will there sometime a version with better graphics ?
#1486 [17:39] <Mathuin> LaBarata: it's in the directory where you ran the server.
#1487 [17:39] <Mathuin> Look for "./world" :-)
#1488 [17:39] <LaBarata> Ah, k xD
#1489 [17:39] <Mathuin> mib_pgdohi: there are other texture packs that change the graphics that may appeal to you.
#1490 [17:39] <Mash> %APPDATA%\.minecraft server\bin\world for my old server
#1491 [17:39] <mib_pgdohi> cool where can i find them ?
#1492 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> mib_pgdohi: the pastiche is retro, but you can make your own skins for the game
#1493 [17:40] <Mathuin> mib_pgdohi: I search the fine web for "minecraft texture pack" and also check out the forums. Everyone has their own preferences.
#1494 [17:40] <mib_pgdohi> ok
#1495 [17:40] <mib_pgdohi> Thanks for help; I'll try it
#1496 [17:41] <Mathuin> Best of luck to you!
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#1499 [17:42] <LaBarata> Thanks for putting up with me while I'm busy being a dumbass
#1500 [17:42] <mib_pgdohi> yea hope i'll get it running on my office notebooks tomorrow ;)
#1501 [17:42] <Mash> GreyVulpine, this should be an easier one. Do .jar's utilize proprietary compression or a standard library like RAR/ZIP?
#1502 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> Mash: .jars are .zip files
#1503 [17:43] <Mash> DopeGhoti, thanks. =D
#1504 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1505 [17:43] <Mash> I found all the font sizing calculations, I'ma chop it all in half. lol
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#1508 [17:44] <Mash> 8x8 characters seem much better than 16x16 imo
#1509 [17:44] <pheleas_frog> help
#1510 [17:44] <Mash> omg he must be bleeding
#1511 [17:44] <Mash> ??> pheleas_frog ask
#1512 [17:44] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1513 [17:44] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1514 [17:45] <pheleas_frog> my minecraft is closing everytime
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#1516 [17:45] <Mash> I'm actually not sure where it dumps the logfile, DopeGhoti ?
#1517 [17:45] <pheleas_frog> i don't know what to do about it
#1518 [17:46] <Mash> ??> Mash log
#1519 [17:46] <Mash> :(
#1520 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> If it does give you an error log, it'll be in the same directory where the minecraft.exe/jar is
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#1522 [17:47] <pheleas_frog> yes but i don't understand
#1523 [17:47] <Mash> pheleas_frog, wherever you're running minecraft from (.exe that you downloaded, most likely), look for a log file
#1524 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> ??> pheleas_frog win/reinst
#1525 [17:47] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1526 [17:47] <pheleas_frog> yes yes
#1527 [17:47] <VoxelHead> pheleas_frog: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1528 [17:48] <pheleas_frog> but what do i have to do with the error log?
#1529 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> ?? pastebin
#1530 [17:48] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#1531 [17:48] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#1532 [17:48] <Mash> copy the contents of the logfile and paste them into www.pastebin.com and give us the URL it feeds you
#1533 [17:52] <pheleas_frog> do i need to copy the text to pastebin?
#1534 [17:52] <Mash> pheleas_frog, yes
#1535 [17:52] <pheleas_frog> from where to where
#1536 [17:52] <pheleas_frog> everything?
#1537 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes, everything
#1538 [17:53] <pheleas_frog> oke
#1539 [17:54] <Mash> I hadn't thought of that.. I can use JD-GUI to peek the source, haven't a clue how to edit it though :(
#1540 [17:55] <pheleas_frog> oke what now?
#1541 [17:55] <pheleas_frog> what does pastebin do?
#1542 [17:56] <pheleas_frog> ??
#1543 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> It's a website where you can paste a large amount of text, and share it with others
#1544 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Saves from you having to paste it all here, and getting flooded out
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#1546 [18:00] <pheleas_frog> thanks!
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#1549 [18:10] <Smorfy> hmm
#1550 [18:11] <pheleas_frog> hmmm
#1551 [18:11] <pheleas_frog> still closing
#1552 [18:11] <Smorfy> :(
#1553 [18:12] <pheleas_frog> wait
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#1555 [18:13] <pheleas_frog> could it be that java is closing
#1556 [18:14] <Smorfy> I think no
#1557 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us the URL to the pastebin that you did?
#1558 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> That way, we could see what error it's giving you
#1559 [18:15] <Smorfy> is there a known problem with the redstone functionality in 1.3_01?
#1560 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Definitely
#1561 [18:15] <Kealper> lol
#1562 [18:16] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at redstone
#1562 [18:16] <Smorfy> ^^
#1563 [18:16] <Mash> Any of the OPs good with java? >,>
#1564 [18:16] <Smorfy> is it a server or client prob? u know
#1565 [18:16] <Mash> My question r simple.
#1566 [18:16] <pheleas_frog> http://pastebin.com/PW7nt1Hz
#1567 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> it's a minecraft server problem
#1568 [18:16] * Kealper nerdrages at Java
#1568 [18:17] <Kealper> Mash: you could ask me, i could forward it on to someone who does know some Java
#1569 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - That's not the complete log, looks like the first part of it cut off
#1570 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy the entire log again, and post it on pastebin?
#1571 [18:17] <Mash> Kealper, just trying to figure out how I compile these 700 facking .java files back into a .jar
#1572 [18:18] <Kealper> Mash: what IDE are you using?
#1573 [18:18] <Mash> I'm not? :o
#1574 [18:18] <Kealper> o.o
#1575 [18:18] <Mash> Er, correction.
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#1577 [18:18] <Smorfy> is there known when we can get a next version, ( :-) hope tommorrow, ..... hope next week.........*hope*)
#1578 [18:18] <Mash> My IDE is notepad / ssh+pico
#1579 [18:18] <Kealper> you can't compile it without using a compiler....
#1580 [18:18] <pheleas_frog> http://pastebin.com/4d3hfYsG
#1581 [18:18] <Mash> This is why I r asked for helps lol
#1582 [18:18] <Kealper> you need something like Eclipse or something
#1583 [18:19] * Mash fetches.
#1583 [18:19] <Kealper> although Eclipse might be windows-only, not sure
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#1585 [18:19] <Mash> Holy of the wow dude, it's 100mbs.
#1586 [18:19] <Mash> I should just install Komodo again.
#1587 [18:19] <pheleas_frog> ?
#1588 [18:19] <Mash> Activestate likes java iirc
#1589 [18:20] <Kealper> that would probably work too, i think activestate has a compiler with theirs
#1590 [18:20] <pheleas_frog> wow
#1591 [18:20] <pheleas_frog> wait
#1592 [18:20] <pheleas_frog> uhm..
#1593 [18:21] <pheleas_frog> is this something i should do
#1594 [18:21] <Kealper> Mash: http://introcs.cs.princeton.edu/15inout/linux-cmd.html
#1595 [18:21] <pheleas_frog> or mash should do?
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#1597 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - There's nothing I can do with that error report. It contains no personal info
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#1599 [18:21] <ngc0202> ^^?
#1600 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> It would help us if we knew what error it has though
#1601 [18:21] <Kealper> O.o
#1602 [18:21] <ngc0202> anyway
#1603 [18:21] <Mash> I'm not sure if you were following my random blathering, but I ran MC through jd-gui, located all the font.png reading/sizing/rendering/printing crap and am about to edit and recompile eet.
#1604 [18:22] <pheleas_frog> well i don't know either
#1605 [18:22] <ngc0202> how do you make a dispenser trigger every tick?
#1606 [18:22] * Kealper will never tell
#1606 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> ngc0202 - Look up "rapid pulsar minecraft dispenser" on youtube
#1607 [18:22] <Mash> Kealper, @me?
#1608 [18:23] <Kealper> Mash: the link i sent was to you
#1609 [18:23] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: ._.
#1610 [18:23] <Kealper> mah sekrit will get out!
#1611 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> :P
#1612 [18:23] <Mash> Kealper, I'm on Win7, the server's linux.
#1613 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> I still have to figure out how you did that one 1-tick clock with the two dispensers
#1614 [18:23] <Mash> And the server's in the closet, I'm not dragging a monitor back outta the attic again.
#1615 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> That was an awesome design
#1616 [18:24] <Kealper> Mash: that's why i linked you to the linux one, you said you were currently editing it with ssh and pico
#1617 [18:24] <Mathuin> pico *shudder*
#1618 [18:24] <Kealper> that (i think) says how you can just compile it over ssh without even downloading a gui ide
#1619 [18:24] <pheleas_frog> :,(
#1620 [18:25] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: i could make another for you to dissect if you wanted
#1621 [18:25] <Mash> Kealper, lol that was more of a snide remark to the whole ide question- It was my poor attempt at seeming l33t.
#1622 [18:25] <Mash> I haven't a clue what I'm doing in Java.
#1623 [18:25] <pheleas_frog> is nobody able to help me?
#1624 [18:25] <Mash> I can read the language, but that's about it.
#1625 [18:25] <Kealper> Mash: oh....sorry lol, so many people in here actually run linux i thought it was legit :P
#1626 [18:25] <Mash> pheleas_frog, you need to pastebin the entire log file, what you pasted appears to be cut off.
#1627 [18:26] <pheleas_frog> i did
#1628 [18:26] <pheleas_frog> http://pastebin.com/4d3hfYsG
#1629 [18:26] <pheleas_frog> is that one right?
#1630 [18:26] <Mash> pheleas_frog, if that's the entire log, then MC isn't spitting out it's actual error.
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#1632 [18:27] <Mash> pheleas_frog, which means we'll be of little help, unfortunately.
#1633 [18:27] <Mash> pheleas_frog, all I can really suggest is to reinstall/upgrade java.
#1634 [18:27] <ngc0202> mine doesnt do that!
#1635 [18:27] <ngc0202> i have and had
#1636 [18:27] <ngc0202> the same exact thing
#1637 [18:27] <ngc0202> and it does 2
#1638 [18:28] <ngc0202> delays a little
#1639 [18:28] <ngc0202> then does 2 more
#1640 [18:28] <pheleas_frog> that was my plan B
#1641 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> That.. looks like a problem with java, or windows itself
#1642 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Try a complete uninstall of java, and a reinstall
#1643 [18:31] <pheleas_frog> yes
#1644 [18:31] <pheleas_frog> i try
#1645 [18:31] <pheleas_frog> so
#1646 [18:31] <Mash> Kealper, okay.. forget that.
#1647 [18:31] <pheleas_frog> thanks
#1648 [18:31] <Mash> Kealper, is there a way to just edit the file without actually having to recompile the whole damn thing?
#1649 [18:32] <ngc0202> what abt mah prollem
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#1657 [18:53] <Carole> evening all
#1658 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Good talk, Carole
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#1660 [19:00] <GalegO> Hi guys
#1661 [19:00] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#1662 [19:01] <GalegO> I can't play minecraft free? Just for testing and see if I buy or not?
#1663 [19:01] <ngc0202> classic
#1664 [19:01] <SkiingPenguins> well you can play the classic one i believe
#1665 [19:01] <GalegO> where ?
#1666 [19:01] <SkiingPenguins> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp
#1667 [19:02] <GalegO> wow... here in my notebook works, but in my pc not oO
#1668 [19:03] <GalegO> nothing appears
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#1670 [19:06] <GalegO> minecraft works on Java 64bits?
#1671 [19:07] <SkiingPenguins> yes
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#1673 [19:08] <Adamcorey> hello
#1674 [19:09] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#1675 [19:09] <SkiingPenguins> :(
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#1677 [19:10] <KentBallz> what do the online public servers consist mostly of?
#1678 [19:11] <Adamcorey> I keep getting a socket writing error everytime i join a SMP server. whats with that?
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#1680 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> Adamcorey: jsut the one server, or have you tried others?
#1681 [19:21] <Adamcorey> ive tried others
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#1683 [19:22] <aetherian> uh oh. I'm back.
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#1685 [19:23] <aetherian> And boy, was my computer annoying to fix.
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#1687 [19:24] <aetherian> but this looks like it may work out after all.
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#1689 [19:26] <SkiingPenguins> o_o
#1690 [19:27] <aetherian> o.o.o
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#1694 [19:44] <aetherian> brb
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#1704 [20:24] <Jaden> I need help.. i made a minecraft server but when ever i try to go in it i fall and keep falling.
#1705 [20:26] <xales> Jaden: Can you connect to other servers?
#1706 [20:26] <xales> (and not have that issue)
#1707 [20:26] <Jaden> yes
#1708 [20:26] <Jaden> yeah
#1709 [20:27] <xales> oookaayyyy
#1710 [20:27] <SkiingPenguins> o_o
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#1712 [20:31] <Joey_> hello
#1713 [20:31] <Joey_> I run a minecraft server on my linux box, but i want to run it as a user other than root, but java throws errrs
#1714 [20:31] <Joey_> errors*
#1715 [20:32] <xales> what, specifically?
#1716 [20:33] <Joey_> http://pastebin.com/3QNM3zWp
#1717 [20:34] <SkiingPenguins> thanks for using pastebin, you're one of the few that have heard of it :D
#1718 [20:34] <Joey_> I've been doing support and programming and crap for years, pastebin is my friend
#1719 [20:35] <SkiingPenguins> i dont know a lot about linux, but could it be that you're in a folder that you dont have access to as that user?
#1720 [20:35] <Joey_> i need to change the user of each file first
#1721 [20:35] <Joey_> but i think thats only one problem
#1722 [20:35] <xales> that's the problem
#1723 [20:35] <xales> permissions
#1724 [20:36] <SkiingPenguins> ZOMG I GOT ONE RIGHT!
#1725 [20:36] <Joey_> I use chown and it says everything is the right user
#1726 [20:36] <Joey_> But ls -l says otherwise
#1727 [20:36] <Joey_> :(
#1728 [20:37] <SkiingPenguins> maybe make a folder with the user you're trying to use and put the server in there?
#1729 [20:37] <xales> ^
#1730 [20:37] <xales> make sure to cp it not mv it
#1731 [20:37] <Joey_> I needed to chgrp instead
#1732 [20:39] <Joey_> well thank you :)
#1733 [20:39] <SkiingPenguins> so...
#1734 [20:39] <SkiingPenguins> im painting Tux in art class and i made him look evil by using warm colors.
#1735 [20:40] <xales> :O
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#1743 [21:16] <PwndByChips> !check mchips.bounceme.com
#1744 [21:16] <PwndByChips> !check mchips.bounceme.net
#1745 [21:16] <PwndByChips> !check codydoesnt.sellbeer.com
#1746 [21:17] <PwndByChips> !check codydoesnt.servebeer.com
#1747 [21:17] <PwndByChips> Hey can someone try logging on to my server
#1748 [21:18] <Kealper> works
#1749 [21:19] <PwndByChips> thanks
#1750 [21:19] <PwndByChips> haha just got on
#1751 [21:19] <PwndByChips> alright thanks man
#1752 [21:19] <PwndByChips> if anyone wants to test plugins with me come on on
#1753 [21:19] <Kealper> i'm working on something else right now :/
#1754 [21:20] <PwndByChips> alright thats cool
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#1757 [21:22] <clank714> !isdown
#1758 [21:22] <GreyBot> clank714: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1759 [21:23] <PwndByChips> lol fail
#1760 [21:23] <clank714> lol
#1761 [21:25] <clank714> !isup
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#1763 [21:26] <SkiingPenguins> some people
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#1772 [21:30] <PwndByChips> !isdown
#1773 [21:31] <GreyBot> PwndByChips: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1774 [21:32] <Elbie27> Hi all, does anybody have a spare 2 mins to quickly try logging into my server to see if I have my ports forwarded corectly. I dont have a seperate machine on a different network to try it out lol
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#1776 [21:53] <aetherian> heya
#1777 [21:55] <aetherian> what's going on
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#1780 [21:57] <aetherian> ow
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#1787 [22:09] <Phelan_Disturbed> Hello?
#1788 [22:09] <Phelan_Disturbed> #help
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#1790 [22:14] <_HardwarE> So that includes this "Fatal Error Occured (4): s3.amazonaws.com" error I am getting?
#1791 [22:14] <_HardwarE> when I try to update my client
#1792 [22:17] <Phelan_Disturbed> Test... Can anyone hear/see me?
#1793 [22:17] <_HardwarE> I can
#1794 [22:17] <Phelan_Disturbed> ty
#1795 [22:17] <_HardwarE> I guess that means ppl can hear and see me too....
#1796 [22:17] <Phelan_Disturbed> yep lol
#1797 [22:17] <_HardwarE> looking to confirm a problem with Minecraft client updates
#1798 [22:18] <Phelan_Disturbed> i got an issue as well
#1799 [22:19] <Phelan_Disturbed> mine is with the start server file
#1800 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1801 [22:33] <Phelan_Disturbed> ??
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#1803 [22:36] <xales> Phelan_Disturbed: What would the issue be?
#1804 [22:36] <xales> _HardwarE: Sounds like Minecraft is being blocked from connecting to the Internet
#1805 [22:37] <Phelan_Disturbed> oh its my start server thing
#1806 [22:38] <xales> "start server thing"
#1807 [22:38] <xales> are you trying to run a Classic server, or a Beta server
#1808 [22:38] <Phelan_Disturbed> sorry lol, let me explain better.
#1809 [22:38] <Phelan_Disturbed> Beta
#1810 [22:38] <xales> If you are running a Beta server, and are using Windows, just download the .EXE and run that
#1811 [22:38] <Phelan_Disturbed> the "start server" file, keeps saying "could not find the main class: com.mojang.minecraft.server.minecraftserver. program will exit"
#1812 [22:39] <xales> The "start server" file is only used for Classic servers
#1813 [22:39] <Phelan_Disturbed> ....
#1814 [22:39] <xales> you do not need (and can not use) the Classic start server batch file
#1815 [22:39] <xales> !server
#1816 [22:39] <xales> download it, run it, that's all you need to do
#1817 [22:40] <Phelan_Disturbed> ok, how would I go about making a server then....?
#1818 [22:41] <xales> like I just said
#1819 [22:41] <xales> you download the .exe file that I just gave you the link to
#1820 [22:41] <xales> and then you double-click on it
#1821 [22:42] <xales> (you should first move it to it's own, new, folder, on your desktop)
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#1823 [22:43] <Jordan_> Hey guys
#1824 [22:43] <Jordan_> can I pick someone's brain for a moment?
#1825 [22:43] <Jordan_> I'm trying to get a few bukkit mods working on a vanilla MineOS install
#1826 [22:43] <Jordan_> But for some reason bukkit doesn't seem to be working, or I can't tell if it's working properly.
#1827 [22:43] <xales> ??> Jordan_ mods
#1828 [22:43] <VoxelHead> Jordan_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1829 [22:43] <VoxelHead> Jordan_: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1830 [22:44] <xales> However, I do not believe MineOS supports Bukkit
#1831 [22:44] <Jordan_> Ah, thanks. Is #Bukkit on the same irc server?
#1832 [22:44] <Jordan_> Hm
#1833 [22:44] <Jordan_> It has an option to install a new "world" with bukkit
#1834 [22:44] <Phelan_Disturbed> ok xales. thats done, but its giving me a little chat looking window?
#1835 [22:44] <Jordan_> but It doesn't seem to work that well.
#1836 [22:44] <xales> Phelan_Disturbed: That is the server console
#1837 [22:44] <AG_Scott> Jordan_, it's on the same network, yes.
#1838 [22:45] <Phelan_Disturbed> your going to have to dumb it down lol... I know how a console works... but how do I get a map?
#1839 [22:45] <xales> Running the server generates a map
#1840 [22:46] <Phelan_Disturbed> so... I open minecraft now and I have a map?
#1841 [22:47] <xales> you open minecraft, and connect to your server
#1842 [22:47] <xales> then you will be playing on your server
#1843 [22:47] <xales> on the map that it generated
#1844 [22:47] <Phelan_Disturbed> [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565 i need to paste 25565 in to the ip thing?
#1845 [22:47] <Kealper> xales: can i ask you a linux-related question really quick?
#1846 [22:47] <xales> sure
#1847 [22:47] <xales> Phelan_Disturbed: No
#1848 [22:48] <Kealper> the thing that makes X do 3d stuff....what's that called?
#1849 [22:48] <xales> you (and only you) can connect using the IP 127.0.0.1
#1850 [22:48] <Kealper> it's some package...but i forget it's name :/
#1851 [22:48] <xales> Kealper: nothing? do you mean the driver that supports 3D?
#1852 [22:48] <Kealper> maybe....
#1853 [22:48] <Kealper> lol
#1854 [22:48] <xales> what distro?
#1855 [22:48] <Kealper> i might have to hit the interwebs
#1856 [22:48] <Kealper> arch >.>
#1857 [22:48] <xales> then nothing
#1858 [22:48] <Phelan_Disturbed> so how can a friend join me...?
#1859 [22:49] <xales> Phelan_Disturbed: You would need to port forward, and give him your public IP (from http://whatismyip.org/)
#1860 [22:49] <Kealper> mesa!
#1861 [22:49] <xales> and if you are running any sort of firewall, you would need to disable and possibly uninstall it
#1862 [22:49] <xales> Kealper: you didn't install that when you installed X?
#1863 [22:49] <xales> D:
#1864 [22:50] <Kealper> installing X right now
#1865 [22:50] <xales> ._.
#1866 [22:50] <Kealper> just couldn't remember that package's name
#1867 [22:50] <xales> the Arch wiki pages
#1868 [22:50] <xales> will tell you all the stuff you need to install
#1869 [22:50] <xales> also
#1870 [22:50] <Phelan_Disturbed> uhhh it loaded.... lots of blue and gray
#1871 [22:50] <Phelan_Disturbed> and creepers and lava
#1872 [22:50] <Phelan_Disturbed> on peaceful
#1873 [22:50] <Phelan_Disturbed> then crashed
#1874 [22:50] <xales> The server doesn't use your client setting
#1875 [22:51] <xales> what error was it?
#1876 [22:51] <Phelan_Disturbed> errr let me try again and ill tell u
#1877 [22:51] <Phelan_Disturbed> im just falling..... :\
#1878 [22:52] <Phelan_Disturbed> ok it actually loaded stuff this time
#1879 [22:52] <xales> that's an issue with any of: your computer can't handle running a server, a firewall, or your NIC
#1880 [22:53] <Phelan_Disturbed> [INFO] Phelan_Disturbed [/127.0.0.1:50397] logged in with entity id 1408
#1881 [22:53] <xales> I think the first is more likely, if it started to load things
#1882 [22:53] <xales> yes, that is normal. It is telling you that you logged in..
#1883 [22:53] <Phelan_Disturbed> [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
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#1885 [22:55] <Phelan_Disturbed> so in other words.... I can play other servers but can not host my own?
#1886 [22:55] <xales> Do you see that message just once, or repeatedly (spamming)
#1887 [22:55] <Phelan_Disturbed> spamming
#1888 [22:56] <xales> then yes, that is the problem
#1889 [22:56] <Phelan_Disturbed> ok heres the error
#1890 [22:56] <xales> your computer can't handle running a Minecraft server
#1891 [22:57] <Phelan_Disturbed> ernal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset by beer:socket write er
#1892 [22:57] <Phelan_Disturbed> uhhh.... peer
#1893 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> NIC then
#1894 [22:57] <xales> GreyVulpine: It's spamming "can't keep up"
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#1896 [22:57] <xales> it's a requirement issue
#1897 [22:58] <Phelan_Disturbed> im running 2gb of ram, on an otherwise 5yr old stock pos dell. Im NOT surprised
#1898 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Ah, just got here
#1899 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that computer won't handle a server and client at the same time
#1900 [22:59] <Phelan_Disturbed> I much appreciate the help though :D
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#1904 [23:06] <werwew19> hey i am on bukkit using permissions no one can build but me how do i fix that?
#1905 [23:08] <xales> We don't support mods
#1906 [23:08] <xales> Try #permissions
#1907 [23:08] <werwew19> k
#1908 [23:08] <werwew19> #permissions
#1909 [23:08] <werwew19> oops lol
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#1914 [23:21] <relsqui> man, a cloudy day is a bad time to be working on something that's just at cloud level
#1915 [23:22] <relsqui> where by "just at" I mean that when a cloud is going by, I cannot see the surface I'm standing on
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#1919 [23:25] <mib_eeubil> hey
#1920 [23:26] <xales> hi
#1921 [23:26] <mib_eeubil> hi,
#1922 [23:26] <mib_eeubil> im testing a serve
#1923 [23:26] <mib_eeubil> r
#1924 [23:26] <mib_eeubil> you cant try? pequemine.dyndns.org
#1925 [23:27] <xales> you can try, using the bot
#1926 [23:27] <mib_eeubil> :25565
#1927 [23:27] <xales> just say "!check (ip)"
#1928 [23:27] <xales> if you are using port 25565, you do not need to include it
#1929 [23:27] <xales> !check pequemine.dyndns.org
#1930 [23:28] <mib_eeubil> !check 81.202.157.75
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#1933 [23:37] <mib_eeubil> !check pequemine.dyndns.org
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#1936 [23:48] <aetherian> ello
#1937 [23:48] <xales> hi aetherian
#1938 [23:49] * xales pours salt on you
#1938 [23:50] <aetherian> AAHHHH
#1939 [23:50] <aetherian> don't eat me...
#1940 [23:50] <aetherian> besides, salt goes bad with mint.
#1941 [23:50] * xales pours garlic on aetherian
#1941 [23:50] <aetherian> as does garlic
#1942 [23:50] <aetherian> don't you have any sense of taste?
#1943 [23:50] <xales> Nope
#1944 [23:51] <aetherian> oh
#1945 [23:51] <aetherian> okay
#1946 [23:51] <xales> ;_;
#1947 [23:51] <aetherian> uhhh
#1948 [23:52] <aetherian> well, I got a fix for my computer, wehther temporary or permanent, I do not know.
#1949 [23:52] <aetherian> *whether
#1950 [23:52] <aetherian> :)
#1951 [23:52] <xales> it was broken?
#1952 [23:53] <aetherian> I was on here earlier ranting about it
#1953 [23:53] * xales wasn't around then
#1953 [23:53] <aetherian> I screwed up my OS, then corrupted the entire partition.
#1954 [23:53] <aetherian> from missing OS, to missing the whole thing.
#1955 [23:53] <xales> nice work
#1956 [23:54] <xales> easy fix: reinstall os :P
#1957 [23:54] <aetherian> thankfully, I was able to rescue files with a spare knoppix USB before I attempted to fix it (which resulted in corrupting the partition)
#1958 [23:54] <aetherian> xales: that's not easy
#1959 [23:54] <xales> it is, actually
#1960 [23:54] <aetherian> not for win7
#1961 [23:54] <aetherian> I need to get a disc of it first
#1962 [23:54] <xales> lol Windows
#1963 [23:54] <aetherian> but in the meantime, I installed linux mint.
#1964 [23:55] <xales> lol Mint
#1965 [23:55] <xales> actually
#1966 [23:55] <xales> lol newbie-friendly Linux distros
#1967 [23:55] <xales> D:
#1968 [23:55] <aetherian> :D
#1969 [23:55] <AndrewPH> gentoo with wifi
#1970 [23:55] <xales> Kealper has been shown the light
#1971 [23:55] <AndrewPH> olololololololo
#1972 [23:55] <aetherian> he has?
#1973 [23:55] <xales> yes
#1974 [23:55] <AndrewPH> also you can install win7 using a USB DRIVE THING
#1975 [23:56] <aetherian> ...
#1976 [23:56] <xales> ellipsis
#1977 [23:56] <Kealper> down with Mint! praise Arch!
#1978 [23:56] <aetherian> like I have a spare usb of windows 7 lying around
#1979 [23:56] <aetherian> yay mint :D yay arch :D
#1980 [23:56] <xales> download + write one?
#1981 [23:56] <Kealper> although i can't hate Mint Debian...
#1982 [23:56] <xales> Mint is a fancy word for "can't install Ubuntu"
#1983 [23:56] <xales> Ubuntu is the African word for "can't install Debian"
#1984 [23:56] <aetherian> I could
#1985 [23:56] <Kealper> eugh...Ubuntu
#1986 [23:57] <xales> Kealper: PM?
#1987 [23:57] <Kealper> rawr?
#1988 [23:57] * xales points you at PM window
#1988 [23:57] <aetherian> but I just needed something I could set up easy. mmhm, easy. for schoolwork.
#1989 [23:58] <xales> Arch is easy
#1990 [23:58] <xales> Kealper: ;)
#1991 [23:58] <xales> but not the kind of easy you want :)
#1992 [23:58] <aetherian> exactly :)
#1993 [23:58] <Kealper> who the hell would put Norton on a linux server?
#1994 [23:58] <aetherian> I need to be a lazy bum with my OS
#1995 [23:58] <xales> Kealper: It's not for the Linux server
#1996 [23:58] <Cial> AndrewPH, you can do that with XP too but its a pain in the ass
#1997 [23:58] <Kealper> oh
#1998 [23:58] <xales> they are trying to sell it to you for your computer
#1999 [23:58] <xales> D:<
#2000 [23:58] <AndrewPH> lol
#2001 [23:59] <Cial> it keeps losing the sys files
#2002 [23:59] <Kealper> OH...fail
#2003 [23:59] <Kealper> sell? hell they are just giving it away lol
#2004 [23:59] <xales> indeed
#2005 [23:59] <AndrewPH> for 30 days
#2006 [23:59] <AndrewPH> WOLOLOL
#2007 [23:59] <xales> AndrewPH: Nope.avi
#2008 [23:59] <AndrewPH> yep.jpeg
#2009 [23:59] <xales> AndrewPH: http://darksigns.net/xales/gah/