#1 [00:01] <ngc0202> its german for song
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#3 [00:05] <Squirrel> Hey all
#4 [00:05] <Squirrel> Anyone alive?
#5 [00:06] <ngc0202> du bist
#6 [00:06] <relsqui> your ... your nick is my nick, inside out
#7 [00:06] <ngc0202> wir sind allien
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#9 [00:06] <xales> Squirrel: Nope
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#11 [00:07] <ngc0202> wir haben angst auch
#12 [00:07] <Squirrel> I was looking for some help with my Minecraft server..
#13 [00:07] <xales> Anything specific?
#14 [00:08] <Squirrel> Yeah. Earlier today, I had me and my friend playing on my server... but now, they get this weird delay where everything they do happens a minuite later than it should. They even see me doing what I did a short time ago, rather than what I'm doing.
#15 [00:08] <Squirrel> I myself am experiencing no problems at all
#16 [00:09] <xales> That sounds like your Internet connection
#17 [00:09] <Squirrel> I have a pretty speedy connection, and it was working fine earlier
#18 [00:09] <Sauronis> Hello everyone, I has a question. Is there anyway I can share worlds between multiple computers? For instance, if I wanted to access my world on my desktop, but later access it on my laptop?
#19 [00:10] <xales> Sauronis: It is very possible
#20 [00:10] <xales> Squirrel: http://speedtest.net/
#21 [00:11] <xales> Sauronis: There is stuff on the wiki http://minecraftwiki.net/ with detailed guides on setting it up to automatically sync worlds
#22 [00:11] <Squirrel> Did the speedtest, what info do you need?
#23 [00:12] <xales> paste the link it gives you
#24 [00:12] <Sauronis> Aha, found the article. And it does use dropbox like I thought it could. Thank you
#25 [00:12] <Squirrel> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1197329223.png
#26 [00:12] <xales> Squirrel: That's the problem
#27 [00:12] <xales> If you want to host more than 2 or so people, you will need faster upstream
#28 [00:13] <Squirrel> That's what I was doing, just two buddies of mine
#29 [00:13] <Squirrel> And it was working perfectly earlier
#30 [00:13] <xales> Are you on cable or DSL?
#31 [00:13] <Squirrel> Cable
#32 [00:14] <xales> if people around you are using the Internet, then your speed will decrease
#33 [00:14] <ngc0202> lol .5mb/s
#34 [00:15] <Squirrel> So you're suggesting to wait until people stop using it as much? :/
#35 [00:16] <xales> Or get a better connection, if you want to run the server at home
#36 [00:16] <ngc0202> well @ .5mb/s i jst suggest having someone else to host
#37 [00:17] <xales> ^
#38 [00:17] <Squirrel> Heh, fair enough
#39 [00:17] <ngc0202> i type at like 1/5 speed D:\
#40 [00:17] <ngc0202> such a bad position
#41 [00:18] <ngc0202> and i make like triple mistakes\\\\\\\]
#42 [00:18] <ngc0202> grr\'
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#45 [00:33] <ngc0202> why does au say mc.net down
#46 [00:34] <ngc0202> anyway i gotta getoff
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#50 [01:11] <mr_fribble> hi every time i try to download a minecraft single player map i dosent work i put the map file into the saves file like i should but i wont work and cant find why
#51 [01:12] <xales> how does it not work
#52 [01:13] <mr_fribble> i dont know i put it in the save files by the new world and when i restart minecraft it dosent show up
#53 [01:13] <xales> did you download a .zip?
#54 [01:13] <mr_fribble> a .zip?
#55 [01:13] <mr_fribble> wait ya i did sry
#56 [01:13] <xales> did you extract it?
#57 [01:13] <mr_fribble> with winrar?
#58 [01:14] <xales> or whatever other program
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#60 [01:15] <mr_fribble> i never extracted it when it finished downloading i draged it into the save files
#61 [01:15] <Guest47192> Wow, it would have been nice if they had posted the site was down on the fucking home page. Morons...
#62 [01:17] <mr_fribble> nvm i got it to work ty for the help anyway
#63 [01:26] <nevercast> xales, Windows extracts Zips by default lol
#64 [01:26] <xales> orly
#65 [01:26] <nevercast> yarly
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#67 [01:27] <madalynn> hello?
#68 [01:28] <relsqui> 'lo
#69 [01:28] <madalynn> Whats up with the minecraft survival mode multiplayer?
#70 [01:28] <xales> minecraft.net might be down, but I'm not sure
#71 [01:29] <madalynn> like I created a server for my friends to play on
#72 [01:29] <madalynn> and i can join but they cant
#73 [01:30] <relsqui> what's the IP?
#74 [01:30] <relsqui> or dns or what have you.
#75 [01:30] <madalynn> Well I think what everyone told me to put is my external right?
#76 [01:30] <relsqui> mhm
#77 [01:30] <relsqui> don't mind me if you already checked with aubot that it's working
#78 [01:30] <relsqui> because that's all I was gonna do
#79 [01:31] <madalynn> I haven't checked
#80 [01:31] <madalynn> i just joined this chat
#81 [01:31] <madalynn> first time that I've been in here actually
#82 [01:31] <relsqui> oh okay then.
#83 [01:31] <relsqui> so, if you give us the ip, we can have the bot test its configuration
#84 [01:32] <madalynn> 99.30.242.217
#85 [01:32] <madalynn> I think this is what you're looking for, right?
#86 [01:32] <relsqui> !check 99.30.242.217
#87 [01:32] <relsqui> yup
#88 [01:33] <relsqui> okay. aubot can't get to you, so something's likely to be misconfigured
#89 [01:33] <relsqui> have you forwarded the port? are you behind a firewall?
#90 [01:33] <madalynn> I have my firewall on but its allowing it through
#91 [01:33] <madalynn> and i think my port is forwarded right
#92 [01:34] <madalynn> I found a guide and followed step by step
#93 [01:34] * relsqui nods
#93 [01:34] <relsqui> smart
#94 [01:34] <madalynn> but i'm unsure what im doing wrong
#95 [01:34] <relsqui> consider turning off your firewall completely at least long enough to test it again
#96 [01:35] <relsqui> to see if the bypass is working correctly
#97 [01:35] <madalynn> its off now
#98 [01:35] <madalynn> do i just type it in again?
#99 [01:35] <relsqui> yeah, just repeat the !check line I did earlier
#100 [01:35] <madalynn> !check 99.30.242.217
#101 [01:36] <madalynn> I got this from Whatismyip.com
#102 [01:36] <dopeghoti> madalynn: did you try canyouseeme.org?
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#104 [01:36] <madalynn> i haven't
#105 [01:36] <relsqui> dopeghoti: neat!
#106 [01:36] <madalynn> but i can try it
#107 [01:38] <madalynn> okay, this is what it said
#108 [01:38] <madalynn> Error: I could not see your service on 99.30.242.217 on port (25565) Reason: Connection refused
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#110 [01:39] <xales> madalynn: do you have a firewall running?
#111 [01:39] <madalynn> no
#112 [01:39] <relsqui> xales: we did this bit ^ :)
#113 [01:39] <madalynn> its off
#114 [01:39] <xales> ok
#115 [01:39] <dopeghoti> madalynn: is.. is the server running?
#116 [01:39] <madalynn> yes
#117 [01:39] <relsqui> lol.
#118 [01:40] <dopeghoti> usually if the connection is actively refused, the port is forwarded
#119 [01:40] <dopeghoti> madalynn: could you pastebin the contents of your server.properties?
#120 [01:40] <madalynn> i dont know what pastebin is...
#121 [01:40] <dopeghoti> ?? pastebin
#122 [01:40] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#123 [01:40] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#124 [01:41] <dopeghoti> hmm, I should probably expand that FAQ
#125 [01:41] <dopeghoti> basically, you go to pastebin.com, paste the contents of the file, and give us the URL it gives you
#126 [01:41] <relsqui> I might also consider switching the order of the two paragraphs there
#127 [01:41] <dopeghoti> then we can see what you pasted without making the IRC channel hard to follow
#128 [01:41] <madalynn> Alright, I'll go try it
#129 [01:41] <dopeghoti> relsqui: I'm inclined to agree
#130 [01:43] <madalynn> http://pastebin.com/VKigvHnY
#131 [01:43] <madalynn> I think thats it
#132 [01:43] <relsqui> looks lilke it.
#133 [01:43] <madalynn> good :)
#134 [01:44] <madalynn> So do you know whats wrong with it?
#135 [01:44] <dopeghoti> madalynn: looks good. Verify your computer's internal IP against the internal IP you're forwarding to?
#136 [01:45] <madalynn> How would I do that?
#137 [01:45] <madalynn> I need to type my ip in my address bar and go back to my little ip website?
#138 [01:45] <relsqui> yup
#139 [01:46] <relsqui> well, not your IP, but your router's IP
#140 [01:46] <madalynn> yea
#141 [01:46] <relsqui> but yes, I think what you're thinking of is the right thing
#142 [01:46] <madalynn> i dont know how to verify it though..
#143 [01:46] <dopeghoti> madalynn: windows? what version?
#144 [01:47] <relsqui> basically, look at the internal IP you have it set to forward to
#145 [01:47] <relsqui> and check your own IP the way dopeghoti is about to explain
#146 [01:47] <relsqui> and make sure they're the same
#147 [01:47] <relsqui> I kinda want to try running a server at home just to be slightly more qualified to help people with theirs XD
#148 [01:48] <dopeghoti> heh
#149 [01:49] <madalynn> oh and mines windows vista by the way
#150 [01:49] <dopeghoti> okay, press win+r, and type 'cmd', and press enter
#151 [01:50] <madalynn> alright
#152 [01:50] <dopeghoti> in the window that appears, type 'ipconfig | find "IPv4 Address"
#153 [01:50] <dopeghoti> '
#154 [01:50] <dopeghoti> and press Enter again
#155 [01:50] <madalynn> alright
#156 [01:50] <xales> err, DG
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#158 [01:50] <xales> windows has no
#159 [01:50] <xales> |
#160 [01:50] <xales> =/
#161 [01:50] <madalynn> i hit enter again
#162 [01:50] <madalynn> do you want my IPv4?
#163 [01:51] <xales> yes, I believe that is what he wants
#164 [01:51] <dopeghoti> Wahrheit: yes it does. and mad, yes, that's what I wand
#165 [01:51] <dopeghoti> Wahrheit: I meant xales.
#166 [01:52] <Wahrheit> dopeghoti: hey bro
#167 [01:52] <dopeghoti> heya
#168 [01:52] <madalynn> 192.168.1.72
#169 [01:52] <Wahrheit> how be the life?
#170 [01:52] <Wahrheit> LOL
#171 [01:52] <dopeghoti> I live
#172 [01:52] <Wahrheit> lol at 192.168
#173 [01:52] <relsqui> Wahrheit: no, that's correct
#174 [01:52] <dopeghoti> madalynn: is that the IP you're forwarding to?
#175 [01:52] <relsqui> Wahrheit: we were looking for an internal there :) talking about forwarding
#176 [01:52] <dopeghoti> (verify this in your router's settings)
#177 [01:52] <Wahrheit> oh okay
#178 [01:52] <madalynn> I guess it is
#179 [01:52] <Wahrheit> never mind
#180 [01:52] <relsqui> hehe
#181 [01:52] <Wahrheit> I had a kid try and tell users to connect to his internal IP
#182 [01:52] <relsqui> yeah, it happens
#183 [01:52] <Wahrheit> and he was like SERVER, Y U NO WURK
#184 [01:53] <Wahrheit> and I was like because learn to internet
#185 [01:53] <relsqui> I used to live in a house which owned a class C--and it happened to start with 192
#186 [01:53] <Wahrheit> literally
#187 [01:53] <Wahrheit> pro
#188 [01:53] <relsqui> so every time I told someone my ip they were like "lol that's your internal"
#189 [01:53] <Wahrheit> lol
#190 [01:53] <relsqui> and I was like "lol no it's not"
#191 [01:53] <relsqui> 192.122.209.*
#192 [01:53] <Wahrheit> 192.168 is like always internal
#193 [01:53] <relsqui> yeah, 192.168 is.
#194 [01:53] <relsqui> 192.122 is not :)
#195 [01:53] <Wahrheit> hirrarious though
#196 [01:53] <dopeghoti> inded
#197 [01:54] <dopeghoti> indeed even
#198 [01:54] <Wahrheit> you guys want to see my theme park? :D
#199 [01:54] <Wahrheit> http://i.imgur.com/ci8Eq.jpg
#200 [01:54] <relsqui> man that spoiled me though. house full of computers, no NAT
#201 [01:54] <dopeghoti> I once talked to someone who has 169.253 (:
#202 [01:54] <Wahrheit> that's like one half of it
#203 [01:54] <Wahrheit> also lol relqsui
#204 [01:54] <dopeghoti> madalynn: did you verify that router setting yet? (:
#205 [01:54] <Wahrheit> idgi 169
#206 [01:54] <relsqui> Wahrheit: that's pretty
#207 [01:54] <Wahrheit> are you freaking out about 69?
#208 [01:54] <dopeghoti> Wahrheit: 169.254.0.0 is autoconfig
#209 [01:54] <Wahrheit> reqlsqui: It's also SO FUN
#210 [01:54] <Wahrheit> oh lol
#211 [01:54] <relsqui> haha I bet
#212 [01:54] <dopeghoti> .253 was close enough to confuse people
#213 [01:55] <madalynn> so this is supposed to go through my firewall right?
#214 [01:55] <relsqui> I can see that
#215 [01:55] <dopeghoti> madalynn: you need to check your port forwarding setting to ensure it's going to 192.168.1.72 and not some other internal IP
#216 [01:55] <Wahrheit> the monorail works, bumper boats work, shooting range works, rollercoaster works, ball toss works
#217 [01:55] <Wahrheit> did you already help them do a static ip?
#218 [01:55] <Wahrheit> :p
#219 [01:56] <dopeghoti> Wahrheit: no, I jumped in after someone else gave up
#220 [01:56] <xales> dopeghoti: I think M is going to be turned on soon, so if anything is weird, it's because it's busy clearing a banlist with 170 entries :S
#221 [01:56] <dopeghoti> *snrk*
#222 [01:56] <Wahrheit> dopeghoti: high five on that mate
#223 [01:57] <Wahrheit> it's been a while since
#224 [01:57] <Wahrheit> I've been in here
#225 [01:57] <Wahrheit> have I missed anything major?
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#227 [01:57] <xales> also dope, I don't even remember, is Vox initiating the link or M?
#228 [01:57] <dopeghoti> nothing comes to mine
#229 [01:57] <dopeghoti> xales: I.. don't recall
#230 [01:57] <xales> I was going to fix bot flags but I need to delink for that :S
#231 [01:57] <xales> oh well
#232 [01:58] <madalynn> Okay, so i dont know if i even did the forwarding right. Let me make sure. On this guide it told me to add application? And I added a 25565 port then told me to click done?
#233 [01:58] <xales> we shall find out
#234 [01:58] <relsqui> madalynn: did you have the opportunity to give it a destination? that is, an ip to which you wanted that port forwarded?
#235 [01:58] <Wahrheit> guys, I have a tidbit for you
#236 [01:58] <Wahrheit> http://pastie.org/pastes/1649044
#237 [01:58] <xales> dopeghoti: M is initiating the link
#238 [01:58] <madalynn> i dont think so
#239 [01:58] <Wahrheit> this was in multiplay's support channel while I was idling
#240 [01:59] <dopeghoti> xales, .unlink, .chattr my bot +h, and re-.link
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#242 [02:07] <Kealper> grrr
#243 [02:07] <xales> madalynn: can you screenshot the page for us?
#244 [02:07] <Kealper> comcast y u suck so much
#245 [02:07] <madalynn> sure
#246 [02:07] <xales> haha, Kealper
#247 [02:07] <xales> you missed all the fun as dopeghoti and I figured out how to get Eggdrops to link D:
#248 [02:07] <Kealper> link? lol
#249 [02:07] <xales> link
#250 [02:07] <xales> botnet
#251 [02:07] <madalynn> how do I add the screenshot to this chat?
#252 [02:07] <Kealper> like...distributed bot?
#253 [02:08] <xales> (not the bad kind :P)
#254 [02:08] <xales> yeah, a bit
#255 [02:08] <Kealper> O.o
#256 [02:08] <xales> madalynn: upload it to imgur.com and paste the URL here
#257 [02:08] <relsqui> madalynn: upload it to a picture hosting service, like imgur or ... yeah
#258 [02:08] <madalynn> alright
#259 [02:08] * relsqui is slow
#259 [02:08] <xales> Kealper: partyline is shared, but that's about all we have it doing
#260 [02:08] <xales> they could share users and channels, op eachother or whatever
#261 [02:08] <xales> but we don't have that stuff enabled
#262 [02:09] <Kealper> weird lol
#263 [02:09] <xales> you can come see if you want
#264 [02:09] <xales> DCC/telnet into Vox
#265 [02:09] <relsqui> baw, it's like a minibotnet. whose nefarious purpose is helping people with minecraft. that's kind of adorable.
#266 [02:09] <xales> or I'll give you an account on M if Vox's telnet isn't public (you can't DCC outbound, right?)
#267 [02:10] <Kealper> no outbound DCC, is vox running on the default port?
#268 [02:10] <xales> no
#269 [02:11] <madalynn> http://imgur.com/pDwUj
#270 [02:11] <madalynn> I think thats it
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#272 [02:12] <xales> oh, I see the issue here
#273 [02:13] <madalynn> What is it?
#274 [02:13] <xales> is your computer plugged directly into the ewire modem?
#275 [02:13] <madalynn> no
#276 [02:13] <madalynn> well
#277 [02:13] <madalynn> yea it is
#278 [02:14] <madalynn> its just in another room
#279 [02:14] <xales> so wait, your computer is connected directly, with a wire, to the ewire thing?
#280 [02:15] <madalynn> idk
#281 [02:15] <madalynn> the only wire connected is the internet cord
#282 [02:16] <madalynn> I have another computer in the other room connected to it
#283 [02:16] <xales> ...that's not terrible helpful
#284 [02:16] <xales> can you look at the "internet cord" from your computer
#285 [02:16] <madalynn> yea...
#286 [02:16] <xales> and follow it, see if it plugs directly into the ewire thing
#287 [02:16] <madalynn> in the router?
#288 [02:17] <madalynn> yea
#289 [02:17] <madalynn> one second I'll be back
#290 [02:18] <madalynn> no its not
#291 [02:18] <xales> that is the problem
#292 [02:18] <xales> what is it plugged in to?
#293 [02:18] <madalynn> my other computer
#294 [02:19] <xales> ..really?
#295 [02:19] <madalynn> yup
#296 [02:19] <xales> there is a cord, going from the computer you are on now, to your other computer?
#297 [02:19] <xales> directly, not plugged into anything else
#298 [02:19] <madalynn> I have this weird split thing
#299 [02:19] <madalynn> idk
#300 [02:19] <madalynn> goes to a box
#301 [02:20] <madalynn> I can go hook it up?
#302 [02:20] <xales> so it's not plugged directly into your other computer, is it?
#303 [02:20] <madalynn> Like there is a cord coming from my router and computer
#304 [02:20] <madalynn> both go to a box
#305 [02:20] <madalynn> and one cord to mine
#306 [02:21] <madalynn> little black box
#307 [02:21] <dopeghoti> nested NAT.
#308 [02:21] <xales> dopeghoti: the ewire isn't performing NAT, I believe
#309 [02:21] <xales> not sure
#310 [02:21] <xales> you deal with it ._.
#311 [02:21] <madalynn> I can go hook it up to it directly
#312 [02:21] <dopeghoti> xales: the 2wire home portal is indeed doing NAD
#313 [02:21] <dopeghoti> er, NAT
#314 [02:22] <xales> ._.
#315 [02:22] <madalynn> lol confused..
#316 [02:22] <xales> madalynn: try that.
#317 [02:22] <madalynn> alright one sec
#318 [02:23] <dopeghoti> madalynn: the.. black box. any labels or branding or writing on it?
#319 [02:23] <madalynn> no not that i saw
#320 [02:24] <madalynn> I have them at school too
#321 [02:24] <madalynn> we have this lab where there is one consol running 8 different machines
#322 [02:25] <dopeghoti> a KVM switch?
#323 [02:25] <madalynn> console*
#324 [02:25] <madalynn> i guess
#325 [02:25] <madalynn> i dont know what they're called
#326 [02:25] <dopeghoti> press a button or magic key combo to flip from one computer to another?
#327 [02:25] <madalynn> nope
#328 [02:25] <madalynn> all can run at the same time
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#330 [02:26] <dopeghoti> interesting
#331 [02:26] <xales> dopeghoti: a switch?
#332 [02:26] <xales> =/
#333 [02:26] <dopeghoti> and you have one of these unlabeled boxes in your home?
#334 [02:26] <madalynn> yea
#335 [02:27] <madalynn> had it for a little while
#336 [02:27] <madalynn> really dont have a use for it now
#337 [02:27] <madalynn> we recently didn't have a great modem
#338 [02:27] <madalynn> we had to get it for some reason
#339 [02:28] <madalynn> i dont remember
#340 [02:28] <madalynn> my uncle sets up our computers
#341 [02:29] <madalynn> so with my cord plugged into my router directly how does it make a difference?
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#343 [02:30] <xales> just try that
#344 [02:32] <madalynn> it doesn't look any different but i can send you this screenshot
#345 [02:35] <madalynn> yup
#346 [02:36] <madalynn> lol
#347 [02:36] <madalynn> dont know why i said that
#348 [02:36] <madalynn> yes it is
#349 [02:36] <madalynn> ohhhh lol was scrolled up...
#350 [02:36] <madalynn> http://imgur.com/RrdHk
#351 [02:38] <dopeghoti> $DEITY I hate 2wire modems
#352 [02:38] <madalynn> i think i do too
#353 [02:38] <dopeghoti> "You're too dumb to know what an IP address is, so you have to refer to all your computers by name."
#354 [02:39] <madalynn> ?
#355 [02:39] <dopeghoti> madalynn: press win+pause, and find your "Computer Name", about half-way down. Make the computer name selection on that router screen match that.
#356 [02:39] <dopeghoti> (sorry, grammar fails after 1240AM)
#357 [02:42] <madalynn> alright its matched
#358 [02:43] <dopeghoti> when you added Minecraft as a user-defined application, you used TCP port 25565, yes?
#359 [02:43] <dopeghoti> if so, click 'done'
#360 [02:43] <madalynn> well i have the TCP and the other one. Do i need it or should i delete it?
#361 [02:43] <dopeghoti> having UDP won't do any harm
#362 [02:44] <dopeghoti> !check adsl-99-30-242-217.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net
#363 [02:44] <dopeghoti> click 'done' and make sure the MC server is running
#364 [02:44] <dopeghoti> then rerun that !check command
#365 [02:45] <nevercast> dopeghoti: I was thinking of some protocol improvements for MC
#366 [02:45] <nevercast> dopeghoti: It was rather difficult, but I thought that maybe there should be two streams, one udp one tcp
#367 [02:45] <nevercast> udp would be for movement, object interaction, item interaction, mobs and player stuff... animation and location etc.
#368 [02:45] <dopeghoti> "and make them both SSL"
#369 [02:46] <nevercast> dopeghoti: I wasn't going to say that but that works too
#370 [02:46] <Wahrheit> dopeghoti: how do confuse xales and wahrheit
#371 [02:46] <Wahrheit> idgi
#372 [02:46] <Wahrheit> our names aren't even that close
#373 [02:46] <nevercast> The udp could also be used for immediate chunk updates, such as one square changes from dirt to air, send that update.
#374 [02:46] <dopeghoti> W and X are on the same keyboard.
#375 [02:46] <dopeghoti> I've successfully typoed p for z before.
#376 [02:46] <dopeghoti> tab did the rest.
#377 [02:46] <nevercast> Then you could use TCP at the state during the first 'downloading terrain' stage
#378 [02:47] <nevercast> and also when ever a whole chunk needs to be downloaded
#379 [02:47] <madalynn> !check 99.30.242.217
#380 [02:47] <nevercast> Also handling of teleporting needs work
#381 [02:47] <nevercast> Infact chunks in general need work
#382 [02:47] <nevercast> They should be sent from the server in a radius originating from the players location
#383 [02:47] <nevercast> Not in series starting from +,+ to -,- of the players location
#384 [02:47] <nevercast> It's horrible for load times.
#385 [02:48] <dopeghoti> nevercast: it's be less of an issue if clients didn't wait 'till they had the whole chunk before rendering any of it
#386 [02:48] <nevercast> dopeghoti: That too!
#387 [02:48] <madalynn> how do i make them SSL?
#388 [02:48] <nevercast> dopeghoti: But then the radius of a loaded chunk collection is about 32x32 chunks or something to that size
#389 [02:48] <nevercast> That's a lot of information
#390 [02:48] <dopeghoti> madalynn: that was not for you, that was for nevercast (:
#391 [02:49] <madalynn> oh
#392 [02:49] <madalynn> I dont think it worked..
#393 [02:49] <madalynn> Icheck 99.30.242.217
#394 [02:49] <Wahrheit> !check 99.30.242.217
#395 [02:49] <nevercast> What they should have is 'Far Data' and 'Near data'. Near data are chunks within 128 / 256 blocks immediatly in the players radius, and contain all chunk information.
#396 [02:49] <madalynn> blah
#397 [02:50] <nevercast> Far data should be just a distant height map to create sillowets in the distance of what looks like hills, the far data would be only height and maybe a color code such as the essentials, grass, stone/dirt/ore and snow.
#398 [02:50] <nevercast> The majors that you'll notice on long distance that's all
#399 [02:51] <nevercast> It's not until you get closer to that area that the server dispatches the 'near data' which is increased size and contains more information
#400 [02:51] <nevercast> Tile type, Objects, Items etc
#401 [02:51] <nevercast> Far data would also exclude things like steps, track, lights.
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#403 [02:51] <nevercast> This would save a massive amount of bandwidth.
#404 [02:51] <madalynn> it wants me to restart :P
#405 [02:52] <Asmadeus> Hihi. I've registered my nick without a capital letter because I though it didn't matter, but it turns out it's also the display name... Is there a way to change the nick's capitalization?
#406 [02:52] <nevercast> Asmadeus: Don't believe so
#407 [02:52] <xales> Asmadeus: Nope. You could try emailing support@mojang.com with the problem, but no guarantees
#408 [02:53] <Asmadeus> I suppose an admin or whatever could do that manually if they had time, but yeah, so no solution for that..
#409 [02:53] <Asmadeus> thank you
#410 [02:53] <xales> we are just community support
#411 [02:53] <xales> we can't do anything like that
#412 [02:53] <Asmadeus> Yeah, wasn't talking about you :)
#413 [02:54] <xales> ok :) too many people come in here and bitch at us like "The site is down you morons, why don't you tell people"
#414 [02:54] <Asmadeus> haha. I feel sorry for you =P
#415 [02:55] <Asmadeus> Might expect one of the staffer to lurk around but yeah, it's clearly said it's not official on the site
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#417 [02:55] <nocomputers> hi guys
#418 [02:55] <xales> hi
#419 [02:55] <nocomputers> question
#420 [02:55] <nocomputers> I have been getting these strange squares
#421 [02:55] <nocomputers> http://ploader.net/files/4843e030fb20576703accfe330d95304.png
#422 [02:55] <nocomputers> like that
#423 [02:55] <nocomputers> on the ground everywhere - with or without mods
#424 [02:55] <nocomputers> how do I deal with that?
#425 [02:55] <xales> that might be your texture pack
#426 [02:55] <xales> try turning it off, see if you still get it
#427 [02:55] <Wahrheit> it is
#428 [02:56] <Wahrheit> it's gotta be the texpack, probably missed a pixel on the edge or something
#429 [02:57] <nocomputers> alright 1 sec
#430 [02:57] <nocomputers> its night time so i cant see
#431 [02:57] <nocomputers> nope
#432 [02:57] <nocomputers> even without the texture pack they show up :(
#433 [02:58] <xales> ??> nocomputers win/reinst
#434 [02:58] <VoxelHead> nocomputers: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#435 [02:58] <VoxelHead> nocomputers: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#436 [02:58] <nevercast> xales, It's likely that he has used the HD texture patcher, so the texture pack will be in his Minecraft Jar.
#437 [02:59] <nocomputers> no, thats not an HD texture pack
#438 [02:59] <nevercast> If he uses the 'Force Update' feature in the new loader
#439 [02:59] <nevercast> nocomputers: You didn't use the patcher?
#440 [02:59] <nocomputers> no
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#442 [02:59] <Wahrheit> you did something to modify the core files
#443 [02:59] <nevercast> nocomputers: Even still, using the force update feature in the loader
#444 [02:59] <nevercast> Under options
#445 [02:59] <Wahrheit> just reinstall and it will be fine
#446 [02:59] <nevercast> Just before you login
#447 [02:59] <mib_bydyi0> !check 99.30.242.217
#448 [02:59] <nocomputers> got it
#449 [02:59] <nocomputers> doing it now
#450 [02:59] <nocomputers> reinstalled and they still show up
#451 [03:00] * nevercast goes and looks at image
#451 [03:00] <xales> nocomputers: when did it start doing that?
#452 [03:00] <mib_bydyi0> this is still not working for me..
#453 [03:01] <nocomputers> i dont know - a while ago actually
#454 [03:01] <nocomputers> im not sure exactly when
#455 [03:01] <xales> nocomputers: try renaming the entire .minecraft directory
#456 [03:01] <nevercast> nocomputers, can you show us a screenshot of this event with the default texture pack?
#457 [03:01] <nocomputers> sure
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#459 [03:01] <nocomputers> I do know that my screenshots from 5-6 months ago do no thave it
#460 [03:01] <nocomputers> not sure if that helps
#461 [03:01] <mib_bydyi0> !check 99.30.242.217
#462 [03:01] <nocomputers> i quit for a long while
#463 [03:02] <KoDoctor> anyoneable to help me with bukkit?
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#465 [03:02] <xales> ??> KoDoctor mods
#466 [03:02] <VoxelHead> KoDoctor: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#467 [03:02] <VoxelHead> KoDoctor: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#468 [03:02] <nevercast> xales, I've had that effect occur in Half life before, I had to change my graphics drivers.
#469 [03:02] <xales> KoDoctor: #bukkit is what you want.
#470 [03:02] <KoDoctor> thanks mate
#471 [03:04] <nocomputers> http://ploader.net/files/4fd0a54808dfd83a1091f28576c79f51.png
#472 [03:05] <nevercast> nocomputers, what is that in the top right of your screen?
#473 [03:05] <dopeghoti> a mod.
#474 [03:05] <nocomputers> oh thats mumble
#475 [03:05] <nocomputers> voice chat program
#476 [03:05] <nocomputers> attaches to the game
#477 [03:05] <xales> turn it off
#478 [03:05] <nocomputers> k
#479 [03:06] <mib_bydyi0> Well guys thanks for your help
#480 [03:06] <mib_bydyi0> im just gonna call it a night
#481 [03:06] <nocomputers> didnt help
#482 [03:06] <nocomputers> also turning off smooth lighting doesnt help either
#483 [03:06] <mib_bydyi0> dopeghoti did
#484 [03:06] <dopeghoti> I tried anyhow
#485 [03:07] <xales> nocomputers: turn it off, restart Minecraft with it off
#486 [03:07] <dopeghoti> better luck t'morrow, mib_bydyi0 :/
#487 [03:07] <nocomputers> alright
#488 [03:07] <mib_bydyi0> its cool
#489 [03:07] <mib_bydyi0> I'll get my friend to try it
#490 [03:07] <mib_bydyi0> he doesn't have 2wire :)
#491 [03:07] <KoDoctor> dawwww, server crashed >.< I really need to brush up on my java
#492 [03:08] <mib_bydyi0> Thanks dopeghoti
#493 [03:08] <nocomputers> still happens without the mumble plugin
#494 [03:08] <nocomputers> restarted n everything
#495 [03:08] <dopeghoti> ??> nocomputers win/profile
#496 [03:08] <VoxelHead> nocomputers: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#497 [03:08] <VoxelHead> nocomputers: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#498 [03:08] <nocomputers> what i dont get is why it only happens to blocks far away
#499 [03:08] <nocomputers> ok
#500 [03:09] <nocomputers> like make a whole new user on my PC?
#501 [03:09] <dopeghoti> exactly
#502 [03:09] <nocomputers> will minecraft still be installed or will i have to reinstal
#503 [03:09] <dopeghoti> you'll have to reinstall, but that's a good thing
#504 [03:09] <dopeghoti> you can still use the same Minecraft account
#505 [03:09] <nocomputers> ok ill try it
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#508 [03:18] <nocomputers> wow
#509 [03:18] <nocomputers> strangely enough! when I made a new user
#510 [03:18] <nocomputers> the squares disappeared
#511 [03:18] <nocomputers> whats the explanation?
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#513 [03:18] <dopeghoti> most likely, something in your normal user's .minecraft folder
#514 [03:19] <nocomputers> how do I fix that?
#515 [03:19] <dopeghoti> potentially, some other program you have running in the background possibly interfering somehow
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#517 [03:19] <dopeghoti> ??> nocomputers win/.minecraft
#518 [03:19] <VoxelHead> nocomputers: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
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#520 [03:19] <nocomputers> got it
#521 [03:19] <dopeghoti> select everything but the saved world
#522 [03:19] <nocomputers> now that im here, what?
#523 [03:19] <dopeghoti> and delete it
#524 [03:20] <nocomputers> k
#525 [03:20] <nocomputers> then what? start minecraft?
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#527 [03:20] <dopeghoti> bin, textures, the whole nine yards, but leave saves
#528 [03:20] <Chr|s> blah server lag for the lose :(
#529 [03:20] <dopeghoti> then start Minecraft and cross your fingers
#530 [03:21] <nocomputers> it seems the mc server is lagging or something
#531 [03:21] <nocomputers> oh there
#532 [03:21] <Chr|s> any suggestions for server lag ?
#533 [03:21] <dopeghoti> Chr|s: try other servers?
#534 [03:21] <nocomputers> 1 sec guys
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#536 [03:21] <nocomputers> im going to reset my internet, its slow as heck
#537 [03:21] <nocomputers> brb
#538 [03:21] <Chr|s> personal server
#539 [03:21] <dopeghoti> nocomputers: k
#540 [03:22] <dopeghoti> operational specifications of the hardware upon which the server is running?
#541 [03:23] <Chr|s> cpu is 3ghz, ram 6gb
#542 [03:23] <Chr|s> have hardly anything running
#543 [03:23] <Chr|s> defragged, clean and fresh
#544 [03:24] <xales> are you playing on the same computer server is running on?
#545 [03:24] <Chr|s> Yes I am
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#547 [03:25] <nocomputers> ok
#548 [03:25] <nocomputers> lets see
#549 [03:25] <Chr|s> the server isn't even using 100mb
#550 [03:25] <Chr|s> may have to settle for a public server :(
#551 [03:26] <nocomputers> oh noooooooooo
#552 [03:26] <nocomputers> squares everywhere
#553 [03:26] <xales> nocomputers: If I had to guess, it's Mumble-related
#554 [03:26] <nocomputers> mumble's closed
#555 [03:26] <xales> Chr|s: it's more likely CPU-related
#556 [03:26] <nocomputers> and it was there before i had mumble
#557 [03:26] <xales> nocomputers: regardless
#558 [03:26] <xales> ah, nevermind then
#559 [03:27] <Chr|s> hmm don't understand how it can be, I run games with much better graphics and I don't lag like this.
#560 [03:28] <dopeghoti> what else do you have running on this profile taht is not on the pristing profile where this does not happen?
#561 [03:29] <dopeghoti> ??> Chr|s retro
#562 [03:29] <VoxelHead> Chr|s: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#563 [03:29] <VoxelHead> Chr|s: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#564 [03:29] <nocomputers> well let me look at my processes
#565 [03:29] <Chr|s> Sure, it may allocate it, but definately not even close to using it lol
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#567 [03:31] <nocomputers> the only differences seem to be my music player really
#568 [03:31] <nocomputers> ill turn that off i mean lol i doubt itll do anything
#569 [03:32] <xales> Chr|s: So?
#570 [03:32] <xales> If it's allocated, nothing else can use it
#571 [03:32] <Chr|s> I have 6 gigs, im not even using it all minecraft is the only thing running and the irc client im using
#572 [03:33] <xales> CPU is more likely the issue, as I have said
#573 [03:34] <dopeghoti> Chr|s: think of it this way: could you run two concurrent copies of, say, Crysis 2 on your computer at the same time and expect good performance out of both?
#574 [03:35] <dopeghoti> becaus if you're running the server _and_ client, and either one gets deprioritized you will appear to have bad performance in both.
#575 [03:35] <nocomputers> oh hey guys!! I think I fixed it
#576 [03:35] <dopeghoti> nocomputers: yay!
#577 [03:35] <nocomputers> thanks for the help
#578 [03:35] <dopeghoti> nocomputers: anytime. That'll be $8
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#580 [03:35] <nocomputers> the only difference from that user and this user
#581 [03:35] <nocomputers> was that the catalyst control center - the drivers for my video card
#582 [03:35] <nocomputers> had different settings
#583 [03:36] <nocomputers> so i put these settings ot the same as those ones
#584 [03:36] <nocomputers> and the squares disappeared
#585 [03:36] <dopeghoti> and poof, all better?
#586 [03:36] <dopeghoti> excellent
#587 [03:36] <nocomputers> yeah
#588 [03:36] <nocomputers> I think my video card
#589 [03:36] <nocomputers> was forcing antialiasing or something
#590 [03:36] <nocomputers> causing the problem. when I ticked 'use application settings' it fixed it
#591 [03:36] <dopeghoti> splendid
#592 [03:36] <nocomputers> thanks guys!
#593 [03:36] <dopeghoti> cheers
#594 [03:36] <nocomputers> are checks okl
#595 [03:36] <dopeghoti> paypal is preferred but checques are fine
#596 [03:36] <nocomputers> dont have any cash on me
#597 [03:36] <dopeghoti> (:
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#600 [03:41] <Chr|s> doh!
#601 [03:41] <Chr|s> that could be why
#602 [03:41] <Chr|s> forgot to enable crossfire
#603 [03:41] <Chr|s> I have 2 vid cards
#604 [03:43] <Chr|s> brb
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#606 [03:44] <findow> hey
#607 [03:44] <findow> anyone here ?
#608 [03:45] <xales> nope
#609 [03:46] <findow> too bad
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#611 [03:46] <dopeghoti> indeed
#612 [03:47] <findow> are you guys play on pc or on mac?
#613 [03:47] <smargoos> anybody know texture back that would only change glass?
#614 [03:47] <smargoos> pack
#615 [03:48] <findow> nein
#616 [03:48] <findow> so, mac or pc?
#617 [03:48] <smargoos> pc
#618 [03:48] <findow> ok
#619 [03:48] <smargoos> why?
#620 [03:48] <dopeghoti> macs are personal computers.
#621 [03:49] <dopeghoti> I play on all three major OSs
#622 [03:49] <findow> cause i need some help on the mac version
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#624 [03:49] <findow> dopeghoti: are you playing on tiger?
#625 [03:49] <dopeghoti> findow: only on Snow Leopard so far
#626 [03:49] <xales> findow: why don't you just say what the problem is? ._.
#627 [03:50] <findow> the problem is i can't play multiplayer on mac os x tiger
#628 [03:50] <findow> actually, no one can
#629 [03:52] <findow> xales: have you ever heard this prob?
#630 [03:52] <xales> if nobody can, then it's a problem with the very old version of Java that Tiger runs
#631 [03:52] <xales> there is no fix
#632 [03:54] <findow> will there be one someday?
#633 [03:54] <dopeghoti> findow: what happens when you try?
#634 [03:55] <findow> "Failed to connect to the server - java.net.Socket.Exception: Invalid argument"
#635 [03:55] <dopeghoti> findow: what version of Java is Tiger up to?
#636 [03:56] <dopeghoti> (at Terminal, java -version)
#637 [03:57] <findow> i can't find the version on Terminal
#638 [03:57] <AG_Scott> So guys (and girlies) do you know of any tools that will let me check for errors in a world?
#639 [03:58] <AG_Scott> I know there was one for the old 1.2 save format but I can't find one for the 1.3 foramt.
#640 [03:58] <AG_Scott> format.*
#641 [03:58] <xales> findow: there won't be a fix for it, because Tiger is outdated
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#643 [03:58] <Jordan_> Anybody know another game sorta like ultima online in terms of features?
#644 [03:58] <Jordan_> Just tried it from the link in /r/gaming
#645 [03:58] <findow> dopeghoti: java version "1.5.0_19"
#646 [03:58] <Jordan_> but it kinda sucks. too old
#647 [03:59] <findow> dopeghoti: too dated version?
#648 [03:59] <xales> findow: if you want to play modern games, you will need to update the OS
#649 [04:00] <xales> and yes, it's far out of date
#650 [04:00] <findow> ok
#651 [04:00] <findow> i need to buy snow leopard then
#652 [04:05] <findow> thanks for the intel, guys
#653 [04:05] <findow> gbye!
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#656 [04:13] <dopeghoti> nanite folks
#657 [04:29] <AG_Scott> How do you warp to a specific chunk?
#658 [04:31] <xales> can't be default, i think
#659 [04:31] <xales> anyway
#660 [04:31] * xales goes to bed now
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#662 [04:40] <EmpiresBane> hm... i don't like mibbit
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#664 [04:43] <LatHans> what is recommended of 32-bit and 64-bit linux server for running minecraft?
#665 [04:43] <LatHans> minecraft server that is
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#672 [05:07] <EmpiresBane> i've heard that the 64-bit java wasn't implented well, but if it works, it works better
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#675 [05:18] <Shienth> Anyone use More Ores mod online?
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#681 [05:48] <zw> Anyone here?
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#688 [06:44] <Bok> is any one else having trouble getting on the forums
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#696 [07:05] <Mikkel> Hello. I'm having a problem. Every server that I'm connecting to, is kind of lagging. I load the map extremely show. Which makes all of the things I'm doing in the game, extemely slow. I tried running mc on another computer, connecting to the same server, worked just fine. What could the problem be?
#697 [07:05] <Mikkel> I'm using Windows 7 on the computer which fails to run it correctly, and Windows XP on the one that can.
#698 [07:06] <Mikkel> Please, highlight me when an answer is coming ;)
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#702 [07:35] <malteee> Hello
#703 [07:39] <malteee> I had a problem with Minecraft
#704 [07:39] <malteee> I had a server on my PC. All my friends can visit my Server. But when I want to connect there is an error: "Connection refused: connect". Can you please help me?
#705 [07:42] <[z]> Use 127.0.0.1 rather than your external IP
#706 [07:42] <[z]> In the client, to connect...
#707 [07:43] <malteee> I started Minecraft. Then I click on "Multiplayer". And now i write into the colum: 127.0.0.1. Bit there is the error "Connection refused: connect" again
#708 [07:45] <[z]> You are running the game and the server on the same PC?
#709 [07:45] <malteee> Yes
#710 [07:46] <[z]> Did you change the server-port in the server settings?
#711 [07:47] <malteee> In my Router are 2 Ports. TCP 25565 and UCP 25565
#712 [07:47] <[z]> Ok, guess that means you didn't
#713 [07:47] <[z]> What is the server-ip set to?
#714 [07:48] <malteee> tuxxx-server.dyndns.org
#715 [07:48] <[z]> Ok, delete that
#716 [07:48] <[z]> just have:
#717 [07:48] <[z]> server-ip-
#718 [07:48] <[z]> err no
#719 [07:48] <[z]> server-ip=
#720 [07:48] <[z]> and restart the server
#721 [07:48] <malteee> I don't now exeakly what you mean
#722 [07:48] <[z]> ...
#723 [07:49] <malteee> I give my friends this: tuxxx-server.dyndns.org
#724 [07:49] <[z]> In the server.properties file
#725 [07:49] <malteee> There Stands 192.168.0.10
#726 [07:49] <[z]> There should be a line saying "server-ip"
#727 [07:49] <malteee> Yes
#728 [07:49] <malteee> I write 192.168.0.10
#729 [07:49] <[z]> Ok
#730 [07:49] <[z]> Change it to blank
#731 [07:49] <malteee> Ok, wait
#732 [07:49] <[z]> So.. "server-ip="
#733 [07:49] <[z]> Just like that
#734 [07:51] <malteee> YYEEESSS!
#735 [07:51] <malteee> It run's!
#736 [07:51] <[z]> And can others still connect?
#737 [07:51] <malteee> Yes
#738 [07:51] <[z]> Great
#739 [07:51] <malteee> Thank you very, very much!
#740 [07:52] <malteee> Bye
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#742 [07:55] <malteee> Hello
#743 [07:55] <malteee> [z]?
#744 [07:55] <malteee> I had a new problem
#745 [07:55] <malteee> with my server
#746 [07:56] <[z]> Heh
#747 [07:56] <malteee> Alle my friends or other people can connect to the server. I can connect to the server, too with the PC where the Minecraft_server.exe ist
#748 [07:56] <malteee> But other PC's in my homenetwork can't connect to the server
#749 [07:57] <[z]> use 192.168.0.10 there
#750 [07:57] <[z]> On the other PCs
#751 [07:59] <malteee> Yes
#752 [07:59] <malteee> it runs!
#753 [07:59] <malteee> Thanks again!
#754 [07:59] <malteee> bye
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#763 [08:44] <Tehcmc> hello?
#764 [08:44] <Tehcmc> i need help
#765 [08:44] <Tehcmc> the chests on sp dont work
#766 [08:52] <Morrolan> Tehcmc: What do you mean with this?
#767 [08:53] <Morrolan> Oh, he left already.
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#769 [09:15] <JavaUser> any1 here ?
#770 [09:15] <JavaUser> need some help regarding payment of minecraft
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#773 [09:32] <Schellinkhout> hello
#774 [09:32] <Morrolan> hey
#775 [09:34] <Schellinkhout> so Im trying to creat a server, and everytime I try to run start server.bat it tells me java is not reconized as an ecternal or internal command, any advise?
#776 [09:34] <Schellinkhout> external*
#777 [09:35] <Morrolan> Yeah. Open the server.bat and replace the "java" with the path to where your java installation is.
#778 [09:35] <Morrolan> For example it should look like this:
#779 [09:36] <Morrolan> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_20\bin\java" -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#780 [09:36] <Morrolan> Or you could set your PATH variable for Java. Is more complicated to do though.
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#782 [09:39] <Azby> !isdown
#783 [09:39] <GreyBot> Azby: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#784 [09:39] <Azby> hello - is minecraft multiplayer down?
#785 [09:40] <LG_Legacy> :l
#786 [09:40] <LG_Legacy> Seriously?
#787 [09:41] <Morrolan> Azby: Nope, works fine for me.
#788 [09:41] <Azby> hm
#789 [09:41] <Azby> For the past few days I've been getting an error
#790 [09:41] <Azby> internal error: java.net connectionexception
#791 [09:42] <Azby> I looked up online all I could gather is that it could be related to authorization problems
#792 [09:43] <Azby> "internal client error: java.net.connect.exception: connection times out: connection
#793 [09:43] <Schellinkhout> thanks morrolan, I got it to start working.
#794 [09:43] <Azby> thoughts?
#795 [09:43] <Morrolan> Schellinkhout: You're welcome.
#796 [09:44] <Morrolan> Azby: Does it happen on every server you try to connect to?
#797 [09:44] <Azby> I've tried my regular one and another new one
#798 [09:44] <Azby> could you share an ip of a working one with me please?
#799 [09:44] <Azby> one that works for you*
#800 [09:44] <Azby> or may be you could try connecting/
#801 [09:45] <Morrolan> One that works for me is, for example, server.minecraftwb.com
#802 [09:45] <Azby> 95.211.124.137!
#803 [09:45] <Morrolan> Ok, I'll try to connect.
#804 [09:45] <Azby> ends in 137*
#805 [09:45] <Azby> thats what im trying
#806 [09:45] <Azby> doesnt seem to work
#807 [09:46] <Azby> it just holds on 'logging in' and then gives the same error
#808 [09:46] <Azby> i've tried it on my other pc
#809 [09:46] <Morrolan> Azby: I can connect, but get disconnected since I'm not on the whitelist.
#810 [09:46] <Azby> and in the browser
#811 [09:46] <Azby> tboth firefox
#812 [09:46] <Azby> yea thats normal
#813 [09:46] <Morrolan> So it needs to be a problem with your system. :/
#814 [09:46] <Azby> i don t understand lol
#815 [09:46] <Azby> why would it be my whole household?
#816 [09:47] <Azby> I.E, FF, Client
#817 [09:47] <Azby> 2 computers
#818 [09:47] <Azby> singleplayer works
#819 [09:47] <Morrolan> Well, it might be either your router is blocking it, or your ISP.
#820 [09:47] <Azby> hm
#821 [09:47] <Morrolan> be that either*
#822 [09:47] <Azby> I was thinking may be reset router
#823 [09:47] <Azby> why would it suddenly stop working?
#824 [09:47] <Morrolan> I have no idea. :/
#825 [09:47] <Azby> Hm
#826 [09:47] <Azby> I'll try reseting my router - ie back in 5 mins :p
#827 [09:47] <Schellinkhout> Morrolan, how do I join my server?
#828 [09:47] <Morrolan> Ok. :)
#829 [09:48] <Schellinkhout> I quite new to this.
#830 [09:48] <Schellinkhout> am*
#831 [09:48] <Morrolan> Schellinkhout: If it is hosted on the same computer you're playing on type "localhost" in the ip field
#832 [09:48] <Morrolan> without the ""
#833 [09:48] <Azby> cant do it atm - other computers being used :(
#834 [09:48] <Schellinkhout> ok
#835 [09:49] <Schellinkhout> it kicked me
#836 [09:49] <Morrolan> Schellinkhout: What did it say?
#837 [09:50] <Azby> what port does mc use?
#838 [09:50] <Schellinkhout> kicking /127.0.0.1 : you need to log in!
#839 [09:50] <Morrolan> Azby: 25565
#840 [09:50] <Morrolan> Schellinkhout: Are you sure you are using the correct server software? Because this happens when you're using the creative server.
#841 [09:50] <Azby> with port forwarding is it tcp, ucp or both? :p
#842 [09:50] <Schellinkhout> .. I probably am not
#843 [09:50] <Azby> udp rather
#844 [09:51] <Morrolan> Schellinkhout: Are you on Windows?
#845 [09:51] <Schellinkhout> yes
#846 [09:51] <TobiX> Azby: Minecraft uese TCP
#847 [09:51] <Azby> too late, did both lol
#848 [09:51] <Azby> not that it helped
#849 [09:52] <Morrolan> Schellinkhout: Download this server software: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1299940534018
#850 [09:52] <Schellinkhout> alright
#851 [09:52] <Morrolan> For the future: it's on the download page, on the same from where you download the normal Minecraft launcher.
#852 [09:53] <Schellinkhout> ok, thanks for the help.
#853 [09:53] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#854 [09:53] <TobiX> Azby: If you aren'T running a server, you normally don't need to change anything on your router...
#855 [09:55] <Morrolan> Azby: My knowledge in this area is quite limited. I can only advise you to check back later when GreyVulpine is online. I think he'll be able to help you.
#856 [09:55] <Azby> ok
#857 [09:55] <Azby> im trying minecraf.net thru aproxy
#858 [09:55] <Azby> :(
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#860 [09:56] <Shadow386> check your hosts file
#861 [09:57] <Shadow386> sometimes things get edited
#862 [09:57] <Schellinkhout> sweet, got it working thanks all.
#863 [09:58] <Azby> saooooooooooooooo anoying
#864 [09:59] <TobiX> Someone really should run a kind of test server somewhere...
#865 [09:59] <Azby> Poke ~ GreyVulpine ~ Poke
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#867 [10:11] <Azby> back
#868 [10:11] <Azby> why does it sau
#869 [10:11] <Azby> say
#870 [10:12] <Azby> Minecraft.net is down! Stop using the !isdown command already!
#871 [10:12] <Azby> btw
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#875 [10:19] <Azby> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internal_error_java_net_connectexception_timed_out_connect
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#884 [10:48] <Wigliff> HEllo?
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#891 [11:06] <boorinoob|AFK> chmod +x killmc.sh
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#895 [11:18] <Auekard> anyone on
#896 [11:20] <Tanjoodo> Nope
#897 [11:21] <Auekard> anyone can tell me were to find a good guid for making my ip into a url for people to connect with?
#898 [11:22] <feenyx> Auekard: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server
#899 [11:22] <feenyx> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#900 [11:22] <feenyx> those two
#901 [11:23] <feenyx> ought to have the information you're looking for
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#906 [11:45] <Tnek> I got an email for a gift code. But which number combination is the gift code? Is it in the email from paypal? Or is it a seperate email?
#907 [11:46] <xales> It's not in the email from Paypal
#908 [11:46] <Tnek> So its a seperate email?
#909 [11:47] <Morrolan> It is listed on minecraft.net under account details or so.
#910 [11:47] <Morrolan> Lemme check.
#911 [11:48] <Tnek> So its Profile ---> gift codes?
#912 [11:48] <Morrolan> Yes, it should be listed there I think.
#913 [11:48] <Morrolan> "Once the purchase is complete and has cleared, you will receive an email with the gift codes, and you will see them listed on your profile page."
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#915 [11:49] <Morrolan> So it seems that you get both, an email and it will be listed there.
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#917 [11:53] <Ulti> Hay guys
#918 [11:53] <xales> Hi
#919 [11:53] <Ulti> I've some question; Is there anybody to talk? xD
#920 [11:53] <xales> Go ahead and ask
#921 [11:54] <Ulti> My friend wants to buy a giftcode for me and i wanna use them. Where i can enter this code after he bought?
#922 [11:54] <Ulti> So: How I can use this code?
#923 [11:55] <Tnek> minecraft.net/redeem.php
#924 [11:55] <Tnek> Or something like that
#925 [11:55] <xales> ??> Ulti giftcode
#926 [11:55] <VoxelHead> Ulti: (giftcode) To redeem a gift code, go to http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp, log in, and enter the code. Enjoy!
#927 [11:55] <boorinoob|AFK> hi all
#928 [11:55] <xales> hi
#929 [11:56] <Ulti> Ouh thanks!
#930 [11:56] <boorinoob|AFK> I would like send command to minecraft from shell, but I don't want attach the screen
#931 [11:56] <xales> `man screen`
#932 [11:56] <boorinoob|AFK> possible ?
#933 [11:56] <xales> will tell you how to do that
#934 [11:56] <Ulti> Maybe, your developers can show this link on the webseite after logging in! ;)
#935 [11:57] <boorinoob|AFK> ok, thanks, I go read =)
#936 [11:57] <xales> Ulti: It would be nice, but we are only community support and don't have any contact with them
#937 [11:57] <Ulti> Ah okay ^^
#938 [11:57] <boorinoob|AFK> but I though like : minecraft.jar say "hello"
#939 [11:58] <Ulti> One last question - sorry for annoying xD => When she bought this code, how long I have to wait to play this aweeeesome game? :D
#940 [11:58] <Ulti> he*
#941 [11:58] <Ulti> ^^
#942 [11:58] <xales> Ulti: If they have the code, they just have to give it to you. When you redeem it you can play right away
#943 [11:59] <Ulti> The code will be send via Email to him, right?
#944 [12:00] <Morrolan> Yes, and it will appear on his profile, in case he looses the email.
#945 [12:00] <Morrolan> "Once the purchase is complete and has cleared, you will receive an email with the gift codes, and you will see them listed on your profile page."
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#947 [12:05] <junjee> hi there, is an experienced modder online?
#948 [12:06] <xales> ??> junjee mods
#949 [12:06] <VoxelHead> junjee: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#950 [12:06] <VoxelHead> junjee: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#951 [12:06] <junjee> ok, thank you very much
#952 [12:06] <Ulti> okay thanks!
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#954 [12:08] <icebird1942> I need help with Minecraft!
#955 [12:08] <icebird1942> After I log in, it gets the latest version and the screen turns black and closes!!! HELP
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#961 [12:20] <RyanMLG> Hello.
#962 [12:20] <xales> Hi
#963 [12:20] <RyanMLG> I have a quick question about mobs
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#965 [12:21] <RyanMLG> As of Beta 1.3_01 is there any way to make slimes spawn? (maybe a mod or just adding a name to the spawnlist?)
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#967 [12:25] <xales> They spawn occasionally on their own, I believe
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#972 [12:41] <Ulti> Ive another question: When we purchase via paypal, how long we have to wait untill playing??
#973 [12:41] <xales> Did you use a credit card on Paypal, or a bank transfer?
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#975 [12:47] <ngc0202> how do I go about
#976 [12:47] <ngc0202> getting a redstone charge to a row of
#977 [12:47] <ngc0202> torches that are on the opposite side of a block
#978 [12:48] <ngc0202> i wish it just had to run behind it
#979 [12:49] <Ulti> Nothing, we want to use paypal ^^
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#981 [12:51] <xales> Ulti: then it should be only a few minutes, if you use a credit or debit card
#982 [12:51] <xales> if you do a bank transfer it could take up to a week
#983 [12:52] <ngc0202> ??
#984 [12:52] <xales> ngc0202: I don't think you can?
#985 [12:54] <ngc0202> thats bothersome
#986 [12:54] <ngc0202> as well as doubtful
#987 [12:54] <ngc0202> considering i almost got it
#988 [12:55] <ngc0202> but i couldnt get one of them
#989 [12:55] <ngc0202> and it was kinda of a big ting
#990 [12:55] <ngc0202> just to get 6 off
#991 [12:55] <ngc0202> 4*
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#993 [12:57] <figaro> !check 99.30.242.217
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#995 [13:02] <ngc0202> xales: i got it
#996 [13:02] <ngc0202> but its huge
#997 [13:02] <ngc0202> 13*5
#998 [13:02] <ngc0202> just to get a charge to 4 torches
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#1001 [13:05] <mib_lg2uo7> Hi!
#1002 [13:05] <xales> hi
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#1004 [13:06] <auekard> !check lolcatz.moo.com
#1005 [13:06] <mib_lg2uo7> ive got problem with google sticky keys :(
#1006 [13:06] <xales> mib_lg2uo7: google sticky keys?
#1007 [13:07] <auekard> !check lolcatz.mooo.com
#1008 [13:07] <auekard> !check lolcatz.co.nr
#1009 [13:08] <ngc0202> and why doesnt a 1 clock charge go through repeaters
#1010 [13:09] <xales> you can't have a 1 clock?
#1011 [13:09] <ngc0202> hmm?
#1012 [13:15] <dopeghoti> isn't a 1-clock also known as a NOT gate? (:
#1013 [13:15] <xales> ^
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#1016 [13:21] <figaro> !check 99.30.242.217
#1017 [13:26] <figaro> !check 99.30.242.217
#1018 [13:28] <figaro> iolike port forwarding...
#1019 [13:28] <auekard> anyone need help
#1020 [13:28] <figaro> i do...
#1021 [13:29] <figaro> if you can help with 2wire portforwarding
#1022 [13:33] <figaro> !check 99.30.242.217
#1023 [13:34] <auekard> what do u mean 2wire?
#1024 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> it's a type of modem
#1025 [13:34] <auekard> explain and maybe i can help you
#1026 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> 2-wire
#1027 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> or brand, rather
#1028 [13:34] <auekard> ohh have you gone into it and port forward 25565
#1029 [13:35] <auekard> !check lolcatz.pwnz.com
#1030 [13:35] <auekard> !check lolcatz.pwnz.org
#1031 [13:38] <figaro> sorry!
#1032 [13:38] <figaro> 2wire is my router
#1033 [13:39] <auekard> okay well have u gone into it to port forward?
#1034 [13:39] <figaro> yes
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#1036 [13:39] <figaro> but it doesn't work for me...
#1037 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#1038 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a screenshot of the port forward page?
#1039 [13:41] <figaro> yea one sec
#1040 [13:41] <figaro> whats that website? To upload photos to?
#1041 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> there's quite a few, I recommend imgur.com
#1042 [13:41] <figaro> thats the one! :)
#1043 [13:42] <Mash> This is why I <3 LinkSys.. they have a router simulator for every model. :)
#1044 [13:42] <auekard> netgear ftw :P
#1045 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, 2wire is one of those combination modem/routers that ISP gives to its customers
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#1047 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> ie, sucky
#1048 [13:42] <figaro> yea..
#1049 [13:42] <figaro> i wanna look into getting a new one
#1050 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Others include westell, and ZyXel
#1051 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Horrid.. horrid little things
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#1053 [13:43] <figaro> so linksys is a good one?
#1054 [13:43] <Mash> auekard, I've never had a netgear that didn't die inside of two years under heavy use.
#1055 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Linksys is a good router.
#1056 [13:43] <figaro> I'll look into getting one
#1057 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to look into a modem though, cable modem for cable service, DSL modem for DSL
#1058 [13:44] <figaro> yea
#1059 [13:45] <auekard> mash lol idk ive had it for a while but i want to get a better one
#1060 [13:45] <figaro> http://imgur.com/otTz3
#1061 [13:46] <figaro> I want a better everything :P
#1062 [13:46] <Mash> auekard, I used to run their prosafe switches, stupid things always crapped out on me.
#1063 [13:46] <figaro> lol
#1064 [13:46] <Mash> business switches too
#1065 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Alright, that's the definition for a minecraft service.
#1066 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Where do you have it set up to go to the computer?
#1067 [13:47] <figaro> idk... thats what i am having a problem with i dont know how to do that on this router
#1068 [13:47] <figaro> i was in here last night trying to get help with it but the guys in here didn't know
#1069 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Got teamviewer?
#1070 [13:47] <Mash> auekard, wow, they still sell that thing 10 years later.. FVS318
#1071 [13:47] <figaro> oh no i dont trust team viewer
#1072 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Okay then
#1073 [13:48] <figaro> last person i let do it got a virus on it..
#1074 [13:48] <figaro> on my computer
#1075 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#1076 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me a screenshot of the main page of the modem?
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#1078 [13:48] <figaro> yea
#1079 [13:49] <figaro> http://imgur.com/BBcGH
#1080 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I remember now. "View firewall summary"
#1081 [13:51] <figaro> alright
#1082 [13:51] <figaro> do you want a screenshot of this page?
#1083 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> It should be fairly simple, you defined a custom application already.
#1084 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Now, just select that application, and forward it to either schell, or eric-son
#1085 [13:52] <figaro> yea
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#1087 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> whichever is hosting the server
#1088 [13:52] <figaro> i dont know how to do that though.. on the "View firewall summary" page
#1089 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Okay, could you give me a screenshot
#1090 [13:53] <figaro> alright
#1091 [13:54] <figaro> http://imgur.com/vQsjE
#1092 [13:54] <figaro> it just doens't look like it works right now
#1093 [13:54] <figaro> my minecraft application i created isn't there
#1094 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> -> view details?
#1095 [13:55] <figaro> alright
#1096 [13:56] <figaro> nothing showed up
#1097 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> ... nothing?
#1098 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Okay then, "Firewall settings" at the top
#1099 [13:58] <figaro> alright i added minecraft again
#1100 [13:58] <figaro> heres screenshot of details
#1101 [13:58] <figaro> http://imgur.com/dq7M1
#1102 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not the right type of application.
#1103 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> PPTP virtual private network server?
#1104 [13:59] <figaro> oh.. i got that from a guide
#1105 [13:59] <figaro> but i can change it
#1106 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Guide's wrong
#1107 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Leave it at default
#1108 [13:59] <figaro> alright
#1109 [13:59] <figaro> one sec
#1110 [14:01] <figaro> ok so this is what i have it set up for
#1111 [14:01] <figaro> port range from 25565-25565
#1112 [14:01] <figaro> protocol timeout is 86400
#1113 [14:01] <figaro> host map thing 25565
#1114 [14:02] <figaro> and then set as the default?
#1115 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#1116 [14:02] <figaro> alrighty
#1117 [14:03] <figaro> im back to the view details
#1118 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Is minecraft listed there, as well as it saying it's forwarding to eric-son?
#1119 [14:04] <figaro> Well it says Device then under it says eric-son
#1120 [14:04] <figaro> then application says minecraft
#1121 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> That should be right then, if your server is on Eric-son
#1122 [14:04] <figaro> it is
#1123 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Alright, then you should be all set to go
#1124 [14:04] <figaro> should i start my server?
#1125 [14:04] <figaro> and rune that test?
#1126 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1127 [14:05] <figaro> alright
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#1130 [14:05] <figaro> !check 99.30.242.217
#1131 [14:05] <ViralNihility> Hey there, is anyone around? I've been having issues with my dedicated server.
#1132 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Don't forget to check your computer's firewall settings as well
#1133 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> 'lo ViralNihility
#1134 [14:06] <raskull> so, my nether portal was created close to my home, up on a big hill.. and the portal is now way the fuck up in the air, on a thi netherrack island, above a huge pool of lava. is there a way to destroy that one, and make a new entrance on the ground?
#1135 [14:06] <figaro> i have them off
#1136 [14:06] <raskull> the only way I've found is to make a new portal in the normal world 1024 blocks away.. which sucks
#1137 [14:06] <raskull> any ideas?
#1138 [14:06] <raskull> and hi.. :P
#1139 [14:06] <ViralNihility> Hey ther GreyVulpine.
#1140 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> ViralNihility - Just give us a pastebin of the error
#1141 [14:06] <ViralNihility> Sure, one minute.
#1142 [14:07] <figaro> !check 99.30.242.217
#1143 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> figaro - I assume you're on windows, and have windows firewall configured, or turned off?
#1144 [14:07] <figaro> me?
#1145 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1146 [14:07] <ViralNihility> http://pastebin.com/3MXAy4gD
#1147 [14:07] <figaro> oh yea
#1148 [14:07] <figaro> lol saw name
#1149 [14:07] <figaro> but yes i have my firewall turned off
#1150 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> raskull - Only way is to go to the nether, with obsidian, destroy the old one, and make the new portal where you want it
#1151 [14:09] <raskull> GreyVulpine: Ah, that will work? as long as the new portal in the nether is within 1024 blocks?
#1152 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> figaro - Could you go to window's command prompt, type in: ipconfig, and take note of the IPv4 address
#1153 [14:09] <figaro> one second, i'll be back
#1154 [14:09] <raskull> I like the location of my up-world portal, but the one in the nether blows heh
#1155 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Then, go to your 2wire's main page, go to the..
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#1157 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> raskull - Just make it in the same location
#1158 [14:09] <raskull> or does the new portal in the nether have to be within 1024 / 8? 128 blocks
#1159 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Only moved down vertically
#1160 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Each block you move in the nether, moves you 8 in the real world
#1161 [14:10] <raskull> yeah
#1162 [14:10] <raskull> so if I make it more than 128 away, it will count as 1024 in the real world, which would make a new portal instead of link to the old one?
#1163 [14:10] <Xb1ade> hi can anyone help me i need to find a minecraft server that a group in steam are running an event on i have the server adress but cant figure where i type it to connect
#1164 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Xb1ade - You'll need to put it in the beta client
#1165 [14:11] <ViralNihility> xb1ade, have you purchased Minecraft? If so, launch it and select Multiplayer.
#1166 [14:11] <Xb1ade> ah ok i see i only have classic for now drat :( will need to buy beta when i get paid ty
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#1168 [14:11] <ViralNihility> No problem.
#1169 [14:11] <Xb1ade> survivor mode looks so good cant wait to try it :)
#1170 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> ViralNihility - Are you running multiverse with bukkit or something?
#1171 [14:12] <ViralNihility> Nope. I am running Bukkit--no multiverse though. I could give you a list of plug-ins.
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#1174 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, a list would be a good start, but I'm not too familiar with bukkit plugins
#1175 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, one of those plugins is referencing an array element outside of the array.. causing an error
#1176 [14:15] <figaro> im back!
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#1178 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Really, the only thing you can do ViralNihility, is make sure you have the latest snapshot of bukkit + all your plugins. They're constantly updating, and stuff breaks all the time
#1179 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Put on each plugin individually, until you get the error..
#1180 [14:16] <ViralNihility> Hm, well I did recently install the Minequery plugin but once the server started acting up I removed it. Aside from that, I run WorldGuard, WorldEdit, Variatree, DeathBan, DeathTPPlus, BorderGuard, Factions, NoCheat and Informant.
#1181 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Yikes.
#1182 [14:17] <mib_xejtmo> Hey soeey to be a nuissance but before i buy the game i wanted to know if mac users can play with windows users?
#1183 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_xejtmo - Yes
#1184 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, try my suggestion there ViralNihility.
#1185 [14:17] <ViralNihility> Will do.
#1186 [14:17] <mib_xejtmo> thank you very much
#1187 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> figaro - Hey, could you go to your windows machine, the box that's running the minecraft server, go to the command prompt, type in: ipconfig there.
#1188 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> make note of the ipv4 address
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#1190 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Then, go to your 2-wire's main page, go to the
#1191 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/BBcGH.jpg
#1192 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> "View home network" link
#1193 [14:18] <figaro> sure
#1194 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Make sure that ipv4 address matches up with the eric-son's ip there
#1195 [14:20] <figaro> they match
#1196 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Then the port forwarding should work, it's most likely an issue with some sort of security software that's running on the computer
#1197 [14:20] <figaro> NAT says its private is that a problem?
#1198 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> What else, besides windows firewall, do you run?
#1199 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Nope, not a problem
#1200 [14:20] <figaro> i have AVG
#1201 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> the AV, or security suite?
#1202 [14:21] <figaro> my virus scanner
#1203 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Just the virus scanner?
#1204 [14:21] <figaro> Its called AVG internet security
#1205 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, security suite then
#1206 [14:21] <figaro> close that out maybe?
#1207 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Go to it, disable the network monitoring stuff
#1208 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Then try again
#1209 [14:24] <figaro> idk where to go to disable it..
#1210 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Um, tools -> advanced -> scroll down to resident shield
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#1212 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> uncheck it
#1213 [14:26] <figaro> alright
#1214 [14:26] <figaro> !check 99.30.242.217
#1215 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. are you sure that's your public IP?
#1216 [14:27] <figaro> i got it from whatismyip.com
#1217 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Check again
#1218 [14:27] <figaro> alright
#1219 [14:28] <figaro> Your IP Address Is: 99.93.141.243
#1220 [14:28] * GreyVulpine points above
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#1221 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> !check 99.93.141.243
#1222 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1223 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> And you have the server running?
#1224 [14:29] <raskull> I have another question for you guys.. I have a multiplayer server running on my linux server. Two of my friends and I can connect to it just fine, but when a 3rd friend tries to connect, he always gets the error "Took too long to log in". Any ideas?
#1225 [14:30] <figaro> yup
#1226 [14:30] <figaro> i have to use the .bat server
#1227 [14:30] <figaro> because the other one says i dont have enough RAM
#1228 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> they're two different servers.
#1229 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> The bat is the classic, free creative one
#1230 [14:30] <figaro> oh
#1231 [14:31] <figaro> well when i run the other one it says i dont have enough RAM. Would it let me play even though I dont have enough?
#1232 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> You can try.
#1233 [14:31] <figaro> alright
#1234 [14:31] <ShadowEyeNL> i have a server which i can access but my friends not, they're getting the timing out problem... any idea how i can fix this?
#1235 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> ShadowEyeNL - Does he get this on every server?
#1236 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Has he tried other servers?
#1237 [14:32] <ShadowEyeNL> i don't know, he bought the game 2 days ago
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#1240 [14:32] <figaro> !check 99.93.141.243
#1241 [14:33] <figaro> Thats what my friend gets ShadowEyeNL
#1242 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> figaro - Something's obviously blocking the connection then, Is AVG the only thing you have on there?
#1243 [14:34] <figaro> as far as i know
#1244 [14:34] <figaro> want me to exit agv?
#1245 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> ShadowEyeNL - have him try another server, see if he can't get on
#1246 [14:34] <ShadowEyeNL> ok :D
#1247 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Try smp.shadow-craft.net
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#1250 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> figaro - I suppose.
#1251 [14:35] <AMoldyStump> hey im havign the same problem as his friend I can join my friends server but have no problem joining other ones
#1252 [14:35] <oneirosFade> Ah, a help channel. Is there a working BetterGrass for ML4? There seem to be a circular set of links on the forum, but I can't find the actual download.
#1253 [14:35] <xales> oneirosFade: #risucraft for that
#1254 [14:36] <oneirosFade> Got it, thanks :)
#1255 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> AMoldyStump - You can, or can't join your friend's server?
#1256 [14:36] <AMoldyStump> I can't**
#1257 [14:36] <AMoldyStump> sorry bout that
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#1259 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, make sure your friend's server is letting you on? Make sure you're not banned, or blocked via his firewall?
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#1261 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Is he running a whitelist?
#1262 [14:37] <McCheat> [MCCHEAT] [RE-RELEASE] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3v3ReWnuE
#1263 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> wtf
#1264 [14:37] * GreyVulpine kicked McCheat from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: 4*BAM*)
#1265 [14:37] <xales> GreyVulpine: it's a spambot
#1266 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I see that
#1267 [14:37] <Cial> ugh not program again
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#1269 [14:37] <Cial> *not that
#1270 [14:38] <AMoldyStump> i believe so he added me to it as well as his op list
#1271 [14:38] <ORakoon> Hello all, I'm wanting to change the painting textures, and have made a texture pack with just a folder called 'art' with the kz.png file inside, and when I just copy and paste the kz.png from another texture pack there it works fine. But if I edit the file and paste it in, it doesn't work, but instead reverts to default
#1272 [14:38] <ORakoon> Does anyone know what my problem is?
#1273 [14:38] <ORakoon> Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
#1274 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> ORakoon - Say what?
#1275 [14:38] <xales> AMoldyStump: what happens when you try to connect?
#1276 [14:38] <AMoldyStump> just says the connectio timed out
#1277 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> How are you pasting your file in?
#1278 [14:40] <ngc0202> nyeeh!
#1279 [14:40] <ORakoon> just copy paste, if I copy and paste the file from another texture pack, the paintings change to that texture, but if I copy and paste the file I have edited it doesn't show up
#1280 [14:40] <xales> AMoldyStump: what IP are you using to connect?
#1281 [14:40] <AMoldyStump> his or mine?
#1282 [14:40] <figaro> brb greyvulpine my comp wants me to restart for some reason.
#1283 [14:40] <ORakoon> I haven't changed the dimensions of the file and it is still named kz.png, so I am confused
#1284 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> ORakoon - Okay, you have your kz.png in an "art" folder, located inside a .zip, in the texturepack folder?
#1285 [14:41] <ORakoon> yep
#1286 [14:41] <xales> AMoldyStump: When you try to connect to it
#1287 [14:41] <xales> what IP are you typing into the box
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#1289 [14:41] <AMoldyStump> 76.66.160.238
#1290 [14:42] <xales> !check 76.66.160.238
#1291 [14:42] <xales> AMoldyStump: The IP is wrong, or they did not port forward correctly
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#1293 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> ORakoon - Then, could you upload it somewhere? Let me have a look at it?
#1294 [14:42] <AMoldyStump> alright I will get him to look into
#1295 [14:42] <ORakoon> sure thing, give me a minute to upload :)
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#1297 [14:45] <mib_n4jpa8> !check 99.93.141.243
#1298 [14:45] <mib_n4jpa8> ohhhh nooooooo!
#1299 [14:46] <mib_n4jpa8> Still no bueno
#1300 [14:46] <mib_n4jpa8> !check 99.93.141.243
#1301 [14:47] <mib_n4jpa8> !check 99.93.141.243
#1302 [14:48] <ORakoon> okay GreyVulpine, http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o272/OrangeRakoon/kz.png is the file
#1303 [14:48] <mib_n4jpa8> This is so lame...
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#1305 [14:48] <ORakoon> (obviously unfinished, but I want it to work first before making every pic :P)
#1306 [14:49] <mib_n4jpa8> okay, GreyVulpine, any other ideas?
#1307 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Sec..
#1308 [14:51] <mib_n4jpa8> alrighty
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#1310 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> ORakoon - The painting are working fine for me.
#1311 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Are you doing this on a mac, or PC?
#1312 [14:54] <ORakoon> PC
#1313 [14:54] <ORakoon> you just made a zip file, made an art folder inside and pasted that file in?
#1314 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#1315 [14:55] <raskull> how are you making the zip file? what program?
#1316 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Right clicked in the texture pack folder, new -> new zip file
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#1318 [14:55] <raskull> I mean ORakoon :P
#1319 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Oh, heh.
#1320 [14:56] <ORakoon> yep, just right clicking
#1321 [14:56] <ORakoon> and still not working...
#1322 [14:57] <ORakoon> but its strange as if I use the kz file from another texture pack, and copy and paste it in, it does work
#1323 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> ORakoon dl.dropbox.com/u/13338072/test.zip
#1324 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Place that in your texture pack folder
#1325 [14:59] <ORakoon> it works
#1326 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> Well then..
#1327 [14:59] <ORakoon> that's crazy lol
#1328 [14:59] <ORakoon> I have no idea what I must be doing wrong
#1329 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> perhaps, upload a copy of your zip file?
#1330 [15:00] <raskull> ORakoon: try using a proper program to create the zip. 7zip is a free program that works great.
#1331 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> You are using .zip, not rar, correct?
#1332 [15:00] <ORakoon> yep, zip
#1333 [15:00] <raskull> something about your windows zip creation is not allowing the game to read it correctly it seems
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#1335 [15:00] <ORakoon> I will try 7zip, I have it just don't use it
#1336 [15:00] <ORakoon> :)
#1337 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I use winrar myself.
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#1339 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> I can also recommend 7zip
#1340 [15:01] <ORakoon> actually, I only downloaded it today because of trying to do this, so I don't know how to use it
#1341 [15:02] <raskull> 7zip is a really easy program to use.. it will add a shell menu you can use for most operations.. so you can just right click a file -> 7-zip -> add to zip
#1342 [15:02] <ORakoon> alright, thanks :)
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#1346 [15:04] <ORakoon> and it then reverts to default paintings
#1347 [15:04] <ORakoon> I took kz.png, put it in a folder called art
#1348 [15:05] <ORakoon> right clicked -> 7zip -> add to zip
#1349 [15:05] <ORakoon> then pasted that zip into texturepacks as usual
#1350 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Host that zip somewhere?
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#1352 [15:10] <ORakoon> I hosted it online, redownloaded it, and it still won't work
#1353 [15:10] <ORakoon> http://www.filedropper.com/art_1
#1354 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Could we get a link
#1355 [15:10] <ORakoon> sorry for all the bother, I don't know what I'm doing wrong but clearly I'm missing something
#1356 [15:10] <sodahappy> How does Minecraft licensing work? If I want to run a family server, do I need multiple licenses?
#1357 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes sodahappy
#1358 [15:11] <sodahappy> OK thanks. :)
#1359 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> ORakoon - Hmm, art.png vs art.PNG?
#1360 [15:12] * GreyVulpine wonders if that makes a difference
#1360 [15:12] <sodahappy> That was an easy answer.,
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#1362 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Or rather, kz.png
#1363 [15:12] <ORakoon> I'll see if renaming it in lower case works, if it lets me
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#1366 [15:14] <ORakoon> I can't seem to do that/don't know how
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#1368 [15:15] <BagelMaster> Does anyone know if there's a way to run a minecraft server on a VPS and not have it stop once I log out of ssh or disconnect? I can't find any ways to make it run as a daemon
#1369 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Have file extensions enabled in windows?
#1370 [15:15] <ngc0202> always
#1371 [15:15] <raskull> considering minecraft works in linux and mac, I would only assume that case matters
#1372 [15:15] <ngc0202> also i dont think that case of extention matters
#1373 [15:16] <Ranavalona> Will smoothstone steps ever be implemented? D:
#1374 [15:16] <ngc0202> lol
#1375 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> BagelMaster - man screen
#1376 [15:16] <Ranavalona> It kinda bugs me that I can only use cobble steps.
#1377 [15:16] <Ranavalona> Sorry, stairs, not steps.
#1378 [15:16] <BagelMaster> GreyVulpine I'll take a look at that, thanks!
#1379 [15:17] <luckz> "man" is a horrible thingb
#1380 [15:18] <luckz> but yes, screen is what you want to use
#1381 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> <3 man
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#1383 [15:18] <Mash> man saves lives.
#1384 [15:18] <BagelMaster> Yea, he was a paramedic
#1385 [15:19] <luckz> things like gnu info are infinitely better
#1386 [15:19] <Mash> Er, I was insinuating; guy doesn't know something necessary for his job, he 'man's it and saves the day. otherwise he gets fired, divorced, kids taken and kills himself.
#1387 [15:19] <Mash> it all hangs in the balance!
#1388 [15:21] <luckz> WoT > man pages
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#1390 [15:21] <Mash> luckz; World of Tards??
#1391 [15:22] <Mash> Or Woman Over There?
#1392 [15:22] <Mash> wonders of tits?
#1393 [15:22] <Mash> I've got more :x
#1394 [15:22] <luckz> worldatanks!
#1395 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, starting to hate that game
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#1397 [15:23] <Mash> I'm starting to tire of MC :(
#1398 [15:23] <Mash> add r suckith.
#1399 [15:23] <luckz> play WoT!
#1400 [15:24] <Mash> Pass.
#1401 [15:24] <Mash> Tempted to play SC:C though.
#1402 [15:24] <luckz> what's dat
#1403 [15:24] <Mash> SplinterCell: Conviction.
#1404 [15:24] <luckz> STARCRAFT:CRAZYHORSE?
#1405 [15:24] <luckz> lol
#1406 [15:24] <Mash> Awesomest SplinterCell evar.
#1407 [15:24] <luckz> is that the awful even more bullshitty GoW one?
#1408 [15:25] <Mash> GoW?
#1409 [15:25] <luckz> the one that's basically "make enemies look to Y and walk around them"?
#1410 [15:25] <luckz> GoW, a cover system minigame
#1411 [15:25] <luckz> also known as Gears of War
#1412 [15:25] <Mash> Erm.. no.
#1413 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> God of war then
#1414 [15:25] <luckz> thank IPU minecraft has no cover system
#1415 [15:25] <Mash> It's more like, stealth assassin, brutal hunter.. with guns.
#1416 [15:26] <Mash> and a really pissed off PC
#1417 [15:26] <Mash> IPU = Instant Power Up?
#1418 [15:26] <luckz> dont insult the only deity!
#1419 [15:27] <Mash> Incestual Pedophiles Unanimous?
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#1421 [15:27] <Mash> !
#1422 [15:27] <Mash> Where's my +v?
#1423 [15:27] <Mash> Chan hates me, is bs.
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#1425 [15:28] <Mash> nevercast, any luck with the code?
#1426 [15:29] <nevercast> Mash, I think I found something yeah.
#1427 [15:30] <nevercast> Mash, I just need to get a decent bytecode editor.
#1428 [15:30] <nevercast> Mash, I have JACKIE / cfparse. But it doesn't like Windows 7 it seems
#1429 [15:30] <Mash> vmware an xp box?
#1430 [15:30] <nevercast> I've got an XP Virt.Machine on my Laptop I'll fire that up now
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#1433 [15:42] <xales> :P
#1434 [15:43] <Ranavalona> Hey. Iguana.
#1435 [15:43] <Ranavalona> Iguana.
#1436 [15:43] <Iguana> hi
#1437 [15:44] <Ranavalona> Sup.
#1438 [15:44] <Iguana> Nothin' much
#1439 [15:44] <Iguana> What brings you 'round these parts?
#1440 [15:44] <ORakoon> you will be glad to know I just got the paintings to work
#1441 [15:44] <ORakoon> it was the file extension
#1442 [15:44] <Ranavalona> Wanted to ask a question, but I forgot by the time I found icechat.
#1443 [15:44] <ORakoon> =D
#1444 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Great news ORakoon
#1445 [15:45] <ORakoon> thanks for the help!
#1446 [15:45] <ORakoon> really appreciate it :)
#1447 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm
#1448 [15:45] <Iguana> lol
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#1456 [16:15] <sodahappy> OK, I bought it, and now I'm having trouble launching it... I get "Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.MinecraftLauncher. Program will exit."
#1457 [16:15] <sodahappy> Anyone know what causes that?
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#1459 [16:19] <xales> sodahappy: what OS?
#1460 [16:19] <sodahappy> Windows 7
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#1462 [16:20] <sodahappy> I downloaded the executable. I haven't run it before. I found something in the forums that said to clean out %appdata%\.minecraft, but that directory doesn't even exist.
#1463 [16:20] <sodahappy> (ye)
#1464 [16:20] <sodahappy> (yet)
#1465 [16:20] <sodahappy> I'm gonna double-check that Java is updated.
#1466 [16:23] <SkiingPenguins> you dont need to clean it out
#1467 [16:23] <SkiingPenguins> and if you're on windows 7 it might be in %appdata%\roaming\.minecraft
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#1469 [16:30] <sodahappy> In Win7 %appdata% is the roaming directory...
#1470 [16:30] <sodahappy> %localappdata% is the local one
#1471 [16:31] <sodahappy> anyway... Java was 1.6u20, so I'm updating to u24
#1472 [16:31] <SkiingPenguins> oh neat, i always assumed %appdata% meant the actual appdata folder
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#1474 [16:32] <Mr_Moe> HellO?
#1475 [16:32] <sodahappy> It's been different in other versions of Windows.
#1476 [16:32] <sodahappy> That did it. Now Minecraft works.
#1477 [16:32] <sodahappy> (updating Java)
#1478 [16:33] <sodahappy> Thanks for your help, SkiingPenguins.
#1479 [16:33] <Mr_Moe> Hey, can anyone here help me, im trying to set up a server on a mac. And i have sucseeded. BUT i cannot use any OP commands. Help? :P
#1480 [16:33] <nevercast> Mr_Moe, add your login name to ops.txt
#1481 [16:33] <Mr_Moe> i have
#1482 [16:33] <Mr_Moe> still nothing
#1483 [16:34] <Mr_Moe> do i just write my username there and nothing else?
#1484 [16:34] <sodahappy> I'm about to try setting up a server too.
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#1486 [16:35] <nevercast> Mr_Moe: Correct.
#1487 [16:35] <Mr_Moe> k
#1488 [16:36] <aetherian> heya
#1489 [16:36] <Mr_Moe> Thanks for the help, ill brb after i check if it worked :)
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#1491 [16:40] <mac-sam> Hi, have been running a minecraft server on mac, and restarted it, but now lost everything? Even though i had been saving? Any idea how to get it back?
#1492 [16:40] <Mr_Moe> ok, it works, thank you guys! :)
#1493 [16:40] <Mr_Moe> seeya
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#1495 [16:41] <xales> mac-sam: define "lost everything"
#1496 [16:42] <mac-sam> Erm… there world has gone? nothing left?
#1497 [16:44] <mac-sam> Its okay, i have worked out what i did, thanks anyway :)
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#1502 [16:57] <ViralNihility> Hey GreyVulp
#1503 [16:57] <ViralNihility> Are you around?
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#1511 [17:28] <Marvinsiemsen> Hey :)
#1512 [17:29] <Marvinsiemsen> I need help with Java, can someone help me? I want to install a new Server software for my Minecraft server and ive got some Problems with the cmd and java...
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#1514 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> What problem?
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#1516 [17:32] <Marvinsiemsen> ah, thanks for Reply... If i enter the commands "java" or "javac" inside cmd it will give me an Error message that the command doesnt exsist... i've got Windows 7 and searched the whole net...
#1517 [17:32] <Marvinsiemsen> the JDK, Java and so on are all installed..
#1518 [17:33] <Marvinsiemsen> and i have to run a .jar with cmd to get the Server files..
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#1520 [17:34] <xales> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml
#1521 [17:35] <Marvinsiemsen> thank you, i'll answer soon :)
#1522 [17:35] <Marvinsiemsen> Ah... I'd tried thoose steps, but i dont have a PATH variable..
#1523 [17:36] <ViralNihility> Anyone available at the moment? I'm attempting to troubleshoot an error and I need some assistance.
#1524 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Marvinsiemsen - What operating system?
#1525 [17:37] <Marvinsiemsen> W7
#1526 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> ViralNihility - Still getting that error with those bukkit plugins?
#1527 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Marvinsiemsen - Go to your start menu, right click on "Computer", go to properties.
#1528 [17:38] <ViralNihility> Yes. I've determined it isn't the plugins--people are having the same problem as me. I was told that it was related to a corrupt chunk on my map.
#1529 [17:38] <Marvinsiemsen> Ah, allright guys, I'd beat the problem..
#1530 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Along the left side should be Advanced system proper..
#1531 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> ViralNihility - Oh?
#1532 [17:38] <Marvinsiemsen> i did not had a Variable called PATH, thats why i made a new one which was called "java", after renameing it to "PATH" it works :D
#1533 [17:38] <ViralNihility> Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to go about isolating the chunk that's corrupt. Any ideas?
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#1535 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> ViralNihility - Unfortunately, that's nearly impossible right now
#1536 [17:41] <Mathuin> GreyVulpine: You *may* have some luck with cartographer (I think that's the one that will skip bad chunks)
#1537 [17:41] <Mathuin> Err, ViralNihility, sorry. :-)
#1538 [17:43] <mica_moca> I seem to be out of the loop, does the nether work anymore?
#1539 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> The nether works in single player
#1540 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Not in SMP, not without modding
#1541 [17:45] <mica_moca> fair enough, cheers greyvulpine
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#1543 [17:48] <ViralNihility> I just had an idea, Grey.
#1544 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1545 [17:48] <ViralNihility> [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.InventoryPlayer.b(InventoryPlayer.java:27) -- Could it be a corrupt invintory file?
#1546 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Maybe?
#1547 [17:51] <ViralNihility> I mean, it seems logical. Do you know if anyone else could confirm?
#1548 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Really, the only people that would have a clue would be here, #bukkit, or possibly #risucraft
#1549 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> And it seems a bit slow today for #MineCraftHelp
#1550 [17:52] <ViralNihility> Well, I meant anyone else in the channel--namely ops.
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#1552 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope. We mainly don't support mods here. Cuts back on the massive responsibility of learning every single combination of mods/plugins out there
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#1554 [17:56] <Drewseph> hi?
#1555 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1556 [17:56] <Drewseph> hey!
#1557 [17:56] <Drewseph> so, I have not logged in for months
#1558 [17:56] <Drewseph> like, since july
#1559 [17:56] <Drewseph> and I lost my old skin
#1560 [17:56] <Drewseph> so I wanted to make a new one
#1561 [17:56] <Drewseph> but the thing isn't uploading to the site
#1562 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> The skin previewer has been disabled since beta came out
#1563 [17:57] <Drewseph> ah
#1564 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> The upload thing still works, there's just no confirmation of it
#1565 [17:57] <Drewseph> so it did update
#1566 [17:57] <Drewseph> just not previewed
#1567 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, check in-game
#1568 [17:58] <Drewseph> yay thanks
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#1575 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, what to do with a mob spawner..
#1576 [18:44] <geraldbrent> How can I prevent Minecraft Classic from losing focus on Ubuntu 10.10 64bit
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#1578 [18:47] <Polah> Can somebody confirm whether this is due to a corrupt world or not: http://pastie.org/1664915
#1579 [18:48] <geraldbrent> Help me ^
#1580 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, looks like a corrupt chunk
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#1582 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> geraldbrent - Would if I knew Ubuntu.. but I don't.
#1583 [18:49] <geraldbrent> :P its losing focus and going to the main menu
#1584 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Press F11, make it full screen?
#1585 [18:50] <geraldbrent> Hmmm i will try
#1586 [18:51] <Polah> GreyVulpine: It's not just one chunk, I got about 200MB worth of these errors
#1587 [18:52] <Polah> GeraldBrent: I can help you wish Ubuntu, what's up?
#1588 [18:52] <geraldbrent> How can I prevent Minecraft Classic from losing focus on Ubuntu 10.10 64bit
#1589 [18:52] <geraldbrent> That ^
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#1591 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Polah - From that little snippet, it looks like 1 chunk. If you've got more than just that, then yeah, probably the map is corrupt
#1592 [18:53] <Polah> Because it pauses when you alt tab away? I wasn't aware there was any way to do that on Windows or Linux
#1593 [18:53] <Polah> Well, there goes my planned restart. Going to have to do it now
#1594 [18:54] <Mathuin> Polah: the only way I knwo to prevent loss of focus is to put Minecraft in its own workspace and maximize it.
#1595 [18:55] <Polah> That still makes it lose focus...
#1596 [18:56] <Mathuin> Not when I just tried.
#1597 [18:57] <Mathuin> How are you making it lose focus?
#1598 [18:58] <Mathuin> Mousing to the edges of the window doesn't switch workspaces, alt-tab doesn't do anything if there aren't any other apps on that workspace.
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#1601 [19:01] <Chr|s> how can I have server running on remote computer on my network not pop up a gui or CMD window, just run in the background
#1602 [19:07] <Polah> Mathuin, switching workspaces makes it lose foxu
#1603 [19:07] <Polah> focus*. Which is necessary when you want to do something else
#1604 [19:08] <SkiingPenguins> Chr|s: what OS?
#1605 [19:09] <Mathuin> Polah: "don't do that".
#1606 [19:11] <Polah> Mathuin: But it loses focus when someone goes to do something else. Hence putting it on it's own workspace doesn't solve that problem.
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#1608 [19:12] <Mathuin> Polah: I thought the issue was with accidental loss of focus. Intentional loss of focus is different. The only way to avoid that is discipline. :-)
#1609 [19:14] <Polah> Mathuin: If by discipline you mean "Nothing else matters. Minecraft is paramount."
#1610 [19:14] * geraldbrent is away: Going to do...stuff
#1610 [19:19] <Drewseph> god damn player kills
#1611 [19:19] <Drewseph> all I wanted to do was enjoy a cool worls and not die from enemies
#1612 [19:20] <Mathuin> Polah: when I do play Minecraft, I focus on that, and leave chatting (here and elsewhere) and email and the like to another computer.
#1613 [19:20] <Polah> Drewseph: Play on a server that has PvP off then
#1614 [19:20] <Polah> Mathuin: I'm not sure many people have two computers in the same place to use for separate things
#1615 [19:20] <Chr|s> SkiingPenguins windows 7
#1616 [19:20] <SkiingPenguins> Chr|s then just add "nogui" to the end of the line in the server .bat
#1617 [19:20] <SkiingPenguins> without quotes, of course
#1618 [19:21] <Mathuin> Polah: having a desktop and a netbook is common in my social circles.
#1619 [19:21] <Chr|s> yes but the cmd line still pops up
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#1621 [19:21] <SkiingPenguins> Chr|s uhh use a shortcut on the desktop then
#1622 [19:21] <Polah> Mathuin: Still seems a bit pointless to have two things running at once just to avoid losing focus.
#1623 [19:21] <SkiingPenguins> just paste that line from the .bat in the "location" place for the shortcut
#1624 [19:22] <Mathuin> Polah: I tend to value mental focus pretty highly. I've been working on my software project on the desktop while chatting here on the netbook. If I really need to focus on the software project, all the blinking and dinging of the chat software takes place "someplace else" and that helps.
#1625 [19:22] <Mathuin> but to each their own.
#1626 [19:23] <Polah> Mathuin: Thus are the benefits of Ubuntu workspaces and/or multiple monitors.
#1627 [19:25] <Mathuin> For me at least, I'd rather have my multiple monitors attached to separate processors and keyboards. :-)
#1628 [19:26] <Chr|s> SkiingPenguins im stil getting CMD Popup
#1629 [19:26] <Chr|s> when I do it like that
#1630 [19:26] <SkiingPenguins> wtf
#1631 [19:26] <SkiingPenguins> Chr|s you
#1632 [19:26] * geraldbrent is back (gone 00:12:11)
#1632 [19:27] <SkiingPenguins> oops
#1633 [19:27] <SkiingPenguins> you're using the exe or .jar?
#1634 [19:27] <Chr|s> .bat file using the line "java.exe -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui" without quotes
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#1636 [19:29] <SkiingPenguins> i'll see if i can come up with something, i'd like to know as well
#1637 [19:32] <Chr|s> k thanks
#1638 [19:33] <Chr|s> because I can issue commands ingame don't need console open or gui
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#1640 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#1642 [19:37] <Polah> Chr|s you may want the console for debugging
#1643 [19:38] <SkiingPenguins> why not pipe to file eh?
#1644 [19:40] <SkiingPenguins> okay well ive got no idea -.-
#1645 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Are you looking to get rid of the cmd prompt window altogether?
#1646 [19:41] <SkiingPenguins> make it run almost as a service
#1647 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hmm
#1648 [19:42] <SkiingPenguins> HA! i used an autohotkey script and it worked
#1649 [19:42] <Chr|s> yeah
#1650 [19:42] <Chr|s> thats exactly what I want to do
#1651 [19:43] <SkiingPenguins> Chr|s: i can compile a .exe which launches the .jar exactly how you said above, you want it?
#1652 [19:44] <Chr|s> yes, id love it actually lol
#1653 [19:45] <Mikkel> Hello. I'm having a problem. Every server that I'm connecting to, is kind of lagging. I load the map extremely show. Which makes all of the things I'm doing in the game, extemely slow. I tried running mc on another computer, connecting to the same server, worked just fine. What could the problem be?
#1654 [19:45] <Mikkel> I'm using Windows 7 on the computer which fails to run it correctly, and Windows XP on the one that can.
#1655 [19:45] <Mikkel> Please, highlight me when an answer is coming ;)
#1656 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Mikkel - Any antivirus programs? What are your specs?
#1657 [19:45] <MuumiJumala> using wireless connection?
#1658 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Are you running any process/CPU-intensive programs?
#1659 [19:45] <Mikkel> I'm using the free AVG anti virus.
#1660 [19:46] <Mikkel> No, I'm not using wireless connection.
#1661 [19:46] <Mikkel> No, I'm not running anything which should take alot while I'm playing it.
#1662 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried going to the process list, and setting the cpu affinity of the javaw.exe process to one CPU?
#1663 [19:47] <Mikkel> I'm having 4GB RAM, AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+ 2.41 GHz, GeForce 7300 GT SLI
#1664 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Oh.. you only have one core
#1665 [19:47] <SkiingPenguins> GreyVulpine: how does that help?
#1666 [19:47] <SkiingPenguins> Chr|s: http://penguinzone.servegame.com/Files/launcher.exe there,
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#1668 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Instead of having the OS manage the process, juggling it between free CPUs.. it'll lock it to one CPU
#1669 [19:47] <Chr|s> thanks
#1670 [19:48] <SkiingPenguins> oh cool
#1671 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> But.. it's an amd 3800+, only one processor/one core
#1672 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Mikkel - Checked F3 while in-game? Look at the FPS stat?
#1673 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Checked windows task manager while minecraft is running? What's the CPU load?
#1674 [19:49] <Mikkel> cpu load is 30-70%
#1675 [19:49] <Mikkel> Also, never used F3 before, wheres the FPS ?
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#1677 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Should be up at the top..
#1678 [19:50] <Mikkel> - It came suddenly, I mean. It ran minecraft perfect until some day, it started loading maps realy slow
#1679 [19:50] <TasteVengence> now
#1680 [19:50] <SkiingPenguins> "java.exe -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui" <--- can someone tell me what the -xmx and -xms mean?
#1681 [19:50] <Mikkel> used memory is 7% ?
#1682 [19:50] <Mikkel> ah... 76 FPS
#1683 [19:50] <TasteVengence> any1 want to play on my minecraft server and help me make a hudge town
#1684 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> -Xms is starting allocation on startup
#1685 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> -Xmx is max total allocation.
#1686 [19:50] <SkiingPenguins> thank you
#1687 [19:50] <TasteVengence> huge*
#1688 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> TasteVengence - This isn't the channel to advertise servers, try #smp
#1689 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Mikkel - Hmm, then, no problems in single player? Just slow loading on MP?
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#1691 [19:51] <Mikkel> Yep
#1692 [19:52] <Mikkel> Works good in SP, but MP loads the map slow.
#1693 [19:52] <Mikkel> When the map is loaded, it runs without lag
#1694 [19:52] <SkiingPenguins> thats the same thing for me, except ive got a few more fps in SP than MP
#1695 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like a network issue then? This could be due to the server(s) being unable to ahndle it...
#1696 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> handle*
#1697 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Pretty common problem since 1.3.
#1698 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Or your client, or how it's hooked up. Anything change in terms of your network setup since?
#1699 [19:53] <Mikkel> It works on my laptop
#1700 [19:53] <Mikkel> No, I didnt change anything, just one day is came
#1701 [19:54] <Mikkel> And I can mc on multiplayer servers just fine on my laptop, which has badder specs
#1702 [19:54] <Mikkel> But it uses teh wireless connection
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#1704 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1705 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> You've tried the same servers on the laptop, and it loads fine?
#1706 [19:55] <Mikkel> Yep
#1707 [19:55] <SkiingPenguins> could this be problem with atheros?
#1708 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Atheros usually crops up with timing out, and recv fail errors
#1709 [19:56] <SkiingPenguins> oh.
#1710 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Just generally booting players out altogether, not slow loading
#1711 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1712 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Mikkel - Tried reinstalling minecraft altogether on that computer? Deleting the .minecraft folder (saving the saves folder)... and having the launcher redownload fresh files?
#1713 [19:57] <Mikkel> Uhm, nope
#1714 [19:58] <Mikkel> oh, wait
#1715 [19:58] <Mikkel> Yes, I tried that right after it started
#1716 [19:58] <Mikkel> * lagging
#1717 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, okay..
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#1719 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> I guess, make sure your security software isn't set to paranoid. Make sure it's not scanning every new file, or scanning every minute. Make sure you don't have some sort of Quality of Service setting on your network/router/modem that might give your connection a low priority.
#1720 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Upgrade your NIC, make sure there's nothing going on there..
#1721 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Beyond that, update java, look at disk fragmentation, make sure you've got enough free HDD space.
#1722 [20:04] <feenyx> try upgrading NIC drivers first
#1723 [20:04] <feenyx> upgrade the NIC if you have one spare :p
#1724 [20:04] <Mikkel> But.
#1725 [20:04] <Mikkel> Why does MC fails so much, I mean, is so slow, when I can play.. League of Legends without any lag?
#1726 [20:04] <SkiingPenguins> because that's the way it is
#1727 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> MC is still in heavy development. It's not finished.
#1728 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> It's not feature complete.
#1729 [20:05] <feenyx> also
#1730 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> LoL is retail, has been out, has a team of dozens of programmers
#1731 [20:05] <feenyx> ??> Mikkel requirements
#1732 [20:05] <VoxelHead> Mikkel: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#1733 [20:05] <Mikkel> Thats true.
#1734 [20:06] <Mikkel> Anyways.
#1735 [20:06] <Mikkel> I'll check for updates to a few things, and I hope it will work
#1736 [20:06] <Mikkel> Else, I'll be back soon enough. Maybe not today, but soon! :d
#1737 [20:06] <feenyx> updated NIC drivers, reinstalling both java and minecraft - usually fixes alot of common problems
#1738 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
#1739 [20:08] <spode> are the system requirements different for singleplayer and multiplayer?
#1740 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Not really.\
#1741 [20:08] <SkiingPenguins> maybe internet bandwidth
#1742 [20:09] * geraldbrent is away: CORN!
#1742 [20:09] * GreyVulpine needs a suggestion for some pixel art. Has: i.imgur.com/JBYc7.png
#1742 [20:10] <SkiingPenguins> how about the turtle shell or bowser
#1743 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. hmm, okay.
#1744 [20:10] * geraldbrent is back (gone 00:01:27)
#1744 [20:10] <SkiingPenguins> geraldbrent do you have to do that script?
#1745 [20:11] <geraldbrent> yes
#1746 [20:11] <SkiingPenguins> oh okay
#1747 [20:11] <geraldbrent> its stuck on
#1748 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> That's a rather crappy client then..
#1749 [20:12] <geraldbrent> Its my fault
#1750 [20:12] <geraldbrent> Made a script that edited the main files instead of script
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#1752 [20:15] <mib_likuu4> hey i was wondering how do u change the block ids of mods
#1753 [20:16] <luckz> LoL is also just not fun/good :P
#1754 [20:18] <mib_likuu4> so nobody knows how
#1755 [20:19] <mib_likuu4> i was wondering how do u change the block ids of mods
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#1758 [20:23] <mib_likuu4> hey i was wondering how do u change the block ids of mods
#1759 [20:26] <gothroach> !paid 0xF
#1760 [20:26] <mib_likuu4> hey i was wondering how do u change the block ids of mods
#1761 [20:27] <luckz> my favourite hobby is /ignore
#1762 [20:30] <LG_Legacy> mib_likuu4 Read our rules before asking us questions.
#1763 [20:30] <LG_Legacy> You can find it in the topic, or i can link you it right herE: http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html
#1764 [20:34] <Wahrheit> !check 75.134.94.126
#1765 [20:34] <Wahrheit> !ping 75.134.94.126
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#1767 [20:39] <madalynn> ...
#1768 [20:39] <LG_Legacy> Whats the next step past 1024?
#1769 [20:39] <LG_Legacy> Isn't it like 2056?
#1770 [20:39] <LG_Legacy> 2058?
#1771 [20:39] <madalynn> what?
#1772 [20:39] <LG_Legacy> Nevermind
#1773 [20:40] <madalynn> why am i madalynn???
#1774 [20:40] <madalynn> who the f... is madalynn
#1775 [20:40] <madalynn> execp me of course
#1776 [20:41] <LG_Legacy> It's your nick.
#1777 [20:41] <LG_Legacy> :l
#1778 [20:41] <LG_Legacy> Mibbit auto gives you a nickname
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#1780 [20:44] <AndrewPH> LG_Legacy, 1024*2
#1781 [20:44] <AndrewPH> 2048
#1782 [20:46] <madalynn> ho
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#1784 [20:48] <madalynn> well i came here seeking help, i get "fatal error occured (4) :" can you help?
#1785 [20:48] <xales> madalynn: is that all it says?
#1786 [20:48] <madalynn> i just bought the game
#1787 [20:48] <madalynn> wait a sec
#1788 [20:49] <activeradio> hey GreyVulpine
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#1790 [20:50] <activeradio> It wont let me upload my skin lol
#1791 [20:50] <madalynn> "fatal error occured (4): Failed to download lwjgl.jar" "Retrieving: lwjgl.jar 25 %"
#1792 [20:50] <IceGuest_77> Hi. What are the system requirements for Minecraft Beta?
#1793 [20:50] <xales> activeradio: yes, it will. the viewer is disabled, but it works fine
#1794 [20:51] <xales> IceGuest_77: I'd say around a 2.4GHz processor, any modern non-integrated graphics card will work, and, for Windows 7 or Vista, 2GB of RAM, for XP, 1.5GB
#1795 [20:51] <xales> madalynn: are you running a firewall?
#1796 [20:51] <activeradio> oh
#1797 [20:51] <activeradio> are they fixing it?
#1798 [20:52] <xales> eventually
#1799 [20:52] <madalynn> xales: how can i know? (thk for helping btw)
#1800 [20:52] <xales> madalynn: you..should know
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#1802 [20:53] <IceGuest_77> Ah cool. Thanks heaps xales. :-)
#1803 [20:53] <luckz> do you not have enough hard disk space to save the file or so? :o
#1804 [20:54] <madalynn> xales: yes i do
#1805 [20:54] <xales> madalynn: what, specifically?
#1806 [20:54] <madalynn> i mean i got one
#1807 [20:54] <xales> what firewall? what is the name of it
#1808 [20:54] <activeradio> "-AuBot- Minecraft.net is down! Stop using the !isdown command already!" Minecraft is not down
#1809 [20:54] <xales> activeradio: Hello, pedant
#1810 [20:55] <activeradio> ?
#1811 [20:55] <madalynn> windows firewall
#1812 [20:55] <xales> ??> madalynn win/reinst
#1813 [20:55] <VoxelHead> madalynn: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1814 [20:55] <VoxelHead> madalynn: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1815 [20:55] <xales> activeradio: just ignore it then...
#1816 [20:55] <activeradio> ok
#1817 [20:55] <activeradio> I thought he might have some command
#1818 [20:55] <activeradio> to set it
#1819 [20:55] <activeradio> See you
#1820 [20:56] <activeradio> VoxelHead, your command is See lol?
#1821 [20:57] <madalynn> worked, cant thank you enought xales! :D
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#1824 [21:17] <Wahrheit> !check 96.44.168.238:25565
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#1831 [21:52] <Rivitingone> I am having trouble with my server. There is a delay from when I type something into chat and hit enter and when it appears of around 30 seconds. Also when I dig a hole the hole appears but the block does not pop out to be collected for 30 seconds or so as well. What can I do to fix this?
#1832 [21:53] <austin> Hi, can someone check to see if my server I just made is working? My IP for it is 71.98.35.28
#1833 [21:53] <xales> austin: you can. just say "!check 71.98.35.28"
#1834 [21:53] <austin> okay thanks
#1835 [21:53] <xales> Rivitingone: That's called lag, and can be caused by a number of things
#1836 [21:53] <Rivitingone> you can type !check and then the IP and the dbot will do it for you
#1837 [21:53] <xales> the most likely is that your computer just can't handle running a server
#1838 [21:53] <austin> !check 71.98.35.28
#1839 [21:56] <austin> Hmm, it just doesnt want to work... I have gotten my IP from whatismyip and have forwarded a port. I left the IP blank in the server.properties file... All it does is time out with no errors on the server client. Any ideas?
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#1841 [21:56] <Rivitingone> Xales: I'm running a AMD quad 2.8 Ghz, 4 Gigs of ram. I'm not seeing any kind of spike in my CPU usage and I the server is only using 8% of its alocated ram. Is there anything I can do to narrow down the problem?
#1842 [21:56] <Rivitingone> Check your fire wall
#1843 [21:56] <Rivitingone> I had that problem yesterday
#1844 [21:56] <austin> Okay
#1845 [21:57] <xales> austin: Timeout is possibly a firewall, but more likely, you port-forwarded wrong
#1846 [21:57] <Rivitingone> It was set to block incoming connections
#1847 [21:57] <xales> Rivitingone: Do you get lag, playing locally, with no other usres connected?
#1848 [21:58] <Rivitingone> Checking
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#1850 [22:00] <austin> Still not going thru... I have even tried turning my firewall off
#1851 [22:01] <xales> austin: then the port-forward is wrong
#1852 [22:02] <austin> In my router I forwarded port start 25565, end port 25565, service name minecraft, and server IP adress I put down as 192.168.1.64
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#1854 [22:02] <Rivitingone> Ok so I was getting the lag while connected locally when a friend was connected. While I was typeing here he logged off and I was not longer laging. he logged back on and the lag is still gone.
#1855 [22:02] <SkiingPenguins> austin what about tcp/udp?
#1856 [22:02] <austin> TCP and UDP
#1857 [22:03] <Rivitingone> well problem solved for the moment
#1858 [22:03] <Equipment> Ïðèâåò ïîæàëóéñòà ïîìîãèòå ìíå, ÿ â èãðå íå ìîãó ïèñàòü ïî àíãëèéñêè (ÿ èç Ðîññèè ïîýòîìó èçâèíèòå çà àíãëèéñêèé)
#1859 [22:03] <Equipment> Hi please help me I'm in the game can not write in English (I'm from Russia so sorry for English)
#1860 [22:04] <Wahrheit> what the hell was that lol
#1861 [22:04] <SkiingPenguins> Equipment: what do you need help with?
#1862 [22:04] <Equipment> I can not write in the English game
#1863 [22:04] <SkiingPenguins> you can not write russian letters?
#1864 [22:04] <austin> !check 71.98.35.28
#1865 [22:04] <Equipment> English
#1866 [22:05] <Equipment> letters
#1867 [22:05] <SkiingPenguins> you can press T to talk to other players in the game
#1868 [22:05] <Equipment> I can not write in the game in English
#1869 [22:06] <EmpiresBane> I think his system language is different, so it tries to output different characters
#1870 [22:06] <Rivitingone> You mean your keyboard is not a standard english one so the character are wrong?
#1871 [22:07] <SkiingPenguins> i wish i could have understood him more
#1872 [22:11] <ngc0202> !check 98.229.188.200
#1873 [22:11] <ngc0202> gor'ramn reavers
#1874 [22:12] <Rivitingone> Ok my lag is back. Here is what I know. First: When I type something into chat it immidiatly shows up in the server console but it does not appear on my local screen for 4-30 seconds. Second: When I enter a "Say" console command via the server console my friend who is connected remotly can see the message immidiatly while I still have the delay.
#1875 [22:16] <xales> Rivitingone: http://speedtest.net/
#1876 [22:17] <Rivitingone> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1198889622.png
#1877 [22:19] <SkiingPenguins> UGH. i cant wait to move out.
#1878 [22:19] <xales> Rivitingone: Do you have any other programs running?
#1879 [22:19] <xales> or any mods, for that matter?
#1880 [22:19] <Rivitingone> Think I figured it out. Nope. and Nope.
#1881 [22:20] <Rivitingone> I wasn't running the .jar through the batchfile I set up so it only had 100MB of memory allocated.
#1882 [22:20] <xales> ._.
#1883 [22:20] <Rivitingone> it was 7% free not 7% used
#1884 [22:20] <Rivitingone> running smooth now
#1885 [22:20] <Rivitingone> thanks for the patience :)
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#1887 [22:26] <SkiingPenguins> zoinks
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#1891 [22:34] <VoxelHead> wasn't expecting kiasyn!
#1892 [22:34] * VoxelHead hides
#1892 [22:34] <SkiingPenguins> oh jeez
#1893 [22:39] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead
#1893 [22:39] * VoxelHead stabs GreyVulpine back with a permanent
#1893 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, really..
#1894 [22:39] * GreyVulpine stabs dopeghoti.
#1894 [22:40] <Chr|s_> anyone know of good servers around NY area? Website server list?
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#1899 [22:54] <mib_9y3tqi> !check 71.98.25.38
#1900 [22:55] <mib_9y3tqi> !check 71.98.35.28
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#1902 [22:56] <VoxelHead> uh oh, it's kyb3r
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#1904 [23:01] <ngc0202> why does aubot always say site is down
#1905 [23:01] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper
#1905 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Fix aubot's Motd
#1906 [23:02] <Kealper> you can, just .set motd some motd here
#1907 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> .set motd
#1908 [23:02] <Kealper> i think all ops in here have power to do that
#1909 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> !hop
#1910 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> bleh, did I not include that in greybot..
#1911 [23:03] <Kealper> it's .hop and you need to specify an motd
#1912 [23:03] <Kealper> like ".set motd TROLOLOLO MOTD HERE"
#1913 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, no, hopping a channel for greybot.
#1914 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> But uh
#1915 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> .set motd 
#1916 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> :)
#1917 [23:03] <Kealper> ._.
#1918 [23:03] <VoxelHead> ;)
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#1921 [23:04] <Kealper> if you wanted to disable it....i think it's .set motd [disable] lol
#1922 [23:04] <Kealper> i think....
#1923 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> We're good.
#1924 [23:04] <Kealper> old code is old
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#1927 [23:04] <VoxelHead> Sup Kealper.
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#1930 [23:20] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :well, I was just minding my own business in smp, then my game crashes, and now I get bad login whenever I try to join a server
#1931 [23:20] <xales> erik212: are you using "play offline"?
#1932 [23:20] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :and rebooting let me get into a server for 10 seconds ebfore minecraft closed and I got bad login errors again
#1933 [23:20] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :no
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#1935 [23:21] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :minecrft forums have no answer apparently
#1936 [23:21] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :can this be related to my NIC, which is really buggy with smp?
#1937 [23:21] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :at least I could join servers before, even if I lagged horribly most of the time
#1938 [23:21] <xales> probably not
#1939 [23:22] <xales> have you tried restarting your computer?
#1940 [23:22] <VoxelHead> i'll need to look that one up xales
#1941 [23:22] <xales> VoxelHead, I thought you were turned off? D:
#1942 [23:22] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I just did, and I could rejoin the server I was in and I wasn't lagging at all (a rarity), but then minecraft just closed, and when I opened it up again, I logged into the launcher fine, but upon attempting to join the server: bad login
#1943 [23:23] <xales> try another server
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#1945 [23:25] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I can join another
#1946 [23:25] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I am also not on the server I can't join's banlist
#1947 [23:27] <xales> then the problem is with the server
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#1949 [23:29] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I'm attempting to figure out why, seeing as no files changed o the server
#1950 [23:30] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ok, magically fixed now...weird
#1951 [23:30] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I touched nothing
#1952 [23:30] <erik212> 8036:fac5:b:5ca6:bc3d:19dc:296a PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :thanks
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#1954 [23:35] <VoxelHead> r shh bigbrother, it's quiet time now.
#1955 [23:35] <bigbrother> ok i have a question: how con you know the IP of a server from the server list? like if i want to play not on browser
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#1957 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> If you're connecting to a classic server, it's not possible
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#1959 [23:37] <mib_5xn3st> i cant log into my account
#1960 [23:38] <mib_5xn3st> im sure ive used my password correctly
#1961 [23:39] <xales> and what happens when you try?
#1962 [23:39] <VoxelHead> Bye mib_5xn3st.
#1963 [23:39] <EmpiresBane> shut up VoxelHead
#1964 [23:39] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#1964 [23:39] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
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