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#5 [00:18] <hvyhitter> This a good place to ask for server mod questions?
#6 [00:18] <xales> No
#7 [00:18] <xales> ??> hvyhitter mods
#8 [00:18] <VoxelHead> hvyhitter: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#9 [00:18] <VoxelHead> hvyhitter: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#10 [00:19] <hvyhitter> cool thx
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#15 [00:35] <mandreas> Hi, can someone help me with a server problem?
#16 [00:35] <xales> What problem?
#17 [00:35] <mandreas> I made my own server, but when my friend tried to get on it wouldn't work for him,
#18 [00:36] <mandreas> So I went and tried to portforward it
#19 [00:36] <xales> why not?
#20 [00:36] <mandreas> now I simply want someone to test and see if it works
#21 [00:36] <xales> just use the bot
#22 [00:36] <mandreas> bot?
#23 [00:36] <xales> say "!check (ip)"
#24 [00:36] <mandreas> !check 192.168.1.10
#25 [00:36] <mandreas> !check 96.248.122.208
#26 [00:36] <mandreas> :\
#27 [00:37] <mandreas> what the heck am I doing wrong.
#28 [00:37] <xales> either port-forwarding wrong, or you have a firewall blocking it
#29 [00:37] <mandreas> !check 192.168.1.1
#30 [00:37] <mandreas> hmm lemme try switching the firewall off
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#32 [00:38] <mandreas> !check 96.248.122.208
#33 [00:38] <VoxelHead> Tonymcdanza ._.
#34 [00:38] <mandreas> Ugh.
#35 [00:38] <mandreas> every single tutorial I find on youtube is different from my router
#36 [00:39] <xales> don't use Youtube "tutorials"
#37 [00:39] <xales> for anything
#38 [00:39] <xales> ever
#39 [00:39] <mandreas> xD
#40 [00:39] <xales> http://portforward.com/
#41 [00:39] <mandreas> thats what I did
#42 [00:39] <xales> click router model, skip ad, click "Minecraft server"
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#44 [00:40] <VoxelHead> Basically, imtheguido you're looking "especially" shagworthy today.
#45 [00:40] <imtheguido> o.O
#46 [00:40] <imtheguido> Wow, laggy.
#47 [00:40] <mandreas> uhm.
#48 [00:40] <xales> imtheguido: laggy? what
#49 [00:40] <VoxelHead> mmm EmpiresBane
#50 [00:40] <mandreas> The website only has
#51 [00:40] <imtheguido> So, might I be able to get a bit of assistance getting my iron double doors to work properly?
#52 [00:41] <mandreas> MI424-WR_Rev.E
#53 [00:41] <mandreas> I'm MI424-WR_Rev.D
#54 [00:41] <imtheguido> The chat client in the browser is a big laggy.
#55 [00:41] <xales> then follow the tutorial for the E?
#56 [00:41] <xales> imtheguido: yes, it is. Mibbit is a piece of garbage
#57 [00:41] <mandreas> will that work?
#58 [00:41] <xales> use a real client ._.
#59 [00:41] <xales> mandreas: it should
#60 [00:41] <imtheguido> I've never used IRC before...
#61 [00:41] <xales> imtheguido: there's a tutorial on the wiki with pictures
#62 [00:41] <imtheguido> This is my second time in here.
#63 [00:42] <imtheguido> I've fallowed the tutorial. My problem is that one door opens and the other closes.
#64 [00:42] <xales> then you didn't follow it quite correctly
#65 [00:42] <imtheguido> No matter what angle I place the door from, it closes when it should be open and opens when it should be closed.
#66 [00:42] <xales> imtheguido: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvFauzzA9pY
#67 [00:42] <xales> watch that
#68 [00:44] <mandreas> Xales
#69 [00:44] <imtheguido> I understand how redstone works and operates. The problem I have, is that no matter what axis I place the door on, it is not opening or closing when it should.
#70 [00:45] <mandreas> should I use the ip i put in my server notepad when portforwarding?
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#72 [00:45] <VoxelHead> Shh Empiresbane, it's quiet time now.
#73 [00:45] <xales> imtheguido: Watch the entire thing :)
#74 [00:45] <EmpiresBane> oh shit, that's what the beeping was
#75 [00:45] <xales> mandreas: you should use the 192.168.1 address that isn't "192.168.1.1"
#76 [00:45] <xales> and if you put an IP in the server.properties file
#77 [00:46] <xales> then your server will not work
#78 [00:46] <xales> you must not put an IP in it
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#80 [00:46] <VoxelHead> Are you here to fumigate the moose front lumps?
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#82 [00:46] <EmpiresBane> i accidently set it to beep when i got message from here
#83 [00:46] <mib_8m52k7> Is the server down? I suddenly cannot login
#84 [00:46] <xales> mib_8m52k7: I don't think it is
#85 [00:47] <mandreas> would 192.168.1.10 work?
#86 [00:47] <xales> if that is your IP, then yes
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#88 [00:48] <mandreas> !check 192.168.1.10
#89 [00:48] <mandreas> !check 96.248.122.208
#90 [00:48] <mandreas> WOOOOOOOOO
#91 [00:48] <mandreas> <3 XALES
#92 [00:48] <VoxelHead> I had no idea.
#93 [00:49] <xales> mandreas: your friend needs to connect with 96.248.122.208
#94 [00:49] <mandreas> Okay, thank you so much :)
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#96 [00:53] <VoxelHead> hay gerzel
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#100 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#101 [01:04] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#102 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#104 [01:07] <VoxelHead> Are you here to fumigate the moose fanny?
#105 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#106 [01:07] <VoxelHead> fine
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#108 [01:07] <killking72> anybody know how to start a minecraft server with more ram?
#109 [01:07] <xales> what OS?
#110 [01:07] <killking72> 7
#111 [01:07] <SevFTW> mac?
#112 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Use the .jar, execute it with increase -Xms and -Xmx arguments
#113 [01:07] <killking72> and how do i do that?
#114 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#115 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Download the minecraft_server.jar
#116 [01:08] <killking72> i have the jar
#117 [01:08] <SevFTW> I know how to on Mac...
#118 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Write a batch file, example command line is on the bottom of the page
#119 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#120 [01:08] <SevFTW> Oh yeah!
#121 [01:08] <SevFTW> .batch is .command on mac :P
#122 [01:08] <killking72> oh ok then
#123 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> -Xms argument is the starting allocation. -Xmx is the max
#124 [01:08] <SevFTW> *.bat
#125 [01:09] <killking72> yea i know how to make a bat file
#126 [01:09] <killking72> ty
#127 [01:10] <SevFTW> guys, I was wondering what is something you put in EVERY house you make?
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#129 [01:10] <killking72> i did it but it wont pull up the server screen
#130 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Trash disposal (lava flow), room of many chests.
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#132 [01:11] <SevFTW> Anything else?
#133 [01:11] <SevFTW> I built a massive underground "base" on my server
#134 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> I also wire up my houses with redstone
#135 [01:11] <killking72> guys?
#136 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Got a MASSIVE redstone underbelly of my underground fortress
#137 [01:11] <SevFTW> and I'm making a doorbell with noteblocks and redstone :D
#138 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Hah, same
#139 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> killking72 ?
#140 [01:11] <killking72> it isnt workin
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#142 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Okay, can you launch it via the command prompt, by itself
#143 [01:12] <killking72> nope
#144 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> See if it's giving you any error messages
#145 [01:12] <killking72> it isnt
#146 [01:12] <killking72> it's opening the prompt then closeing
#147 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> No error messages?
#148 [01:12] <killking72> i dont see the server screen
#149 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> No, launch "Cmd" via your start menu
#150 [01:12] <killking72> ok
#151 [01:12] <killking72> and type that in?
#152 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> "cd" to the directory where you have minecraft_server
#153 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> and type that command line in.
#154 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> See if it returns any error messages
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#156 [01:16] <killking72> i cd it to the directory but it says cannot find java
#157 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you paste exactly what it says?
#158 [01:16] <killking72> java is not a recognized as an internal command
#159 [01:16] <killking72> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Kris>cd desktop C:\Users\Kris\Desktop>cd minecraft server C:\Users\Kris\Desktop\Minecraft Server>java -xmx1024m -xms512m -cp 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. C:\Users\Kris\Desktop\Minecra
#160 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Well then, that just means java hasn't been added to your windows environment variables
#161 [01:17] <killking72> yes it does *looks like he knows what he's talking about* i know what you mean
#162 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Alright, let's start to fixing that
#163 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> First, close that command prompt
#164 [01:17] <killking72> done
#165 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Next, go to your start menu, go to your control panel. Look for the java app there
#166 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> You may have to switch to classic view
#167 [01:18] <killking72> found it
#168 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Okay. Inside the java app there, look at the top, click on the 'java' tab
#169 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Then, click on the "view" button
#170 [01:18] <killking72> uhh
#171 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#172 [01:19] <killking72> all i see is general, update, java, security, advanced
#173 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes, click on the "java" tab
#174 [01:19] <killking72> k
#175 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Then, click on the view button
#176 [01:19] <killking72> done
#177 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Okay, there should be a path column, right?
#178 [01:20] <killking72> yes
#179 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy and paste the path here
#180 [01:20] <killking72> oh ok
#181 [01:20] <killking72> so if i have it in a folder in my desktop it should look like
#182 [01:20] <killking72> sec
#183 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Hold on.. just copy that path here
#184 [01:21] <killking72> C:\Users\Kris\Desktop\Minecraft Server
#185 [01:21] <killking72> i also have the regular server in there
#186 [01:21] <killking72> should i put the .jar in it's own?
#187 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> That's not the java path in the java app
#188 [01:21] <killking72> oh
#189 [01:22] <killking72> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe
#190 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Thanks. You can close that now
#191 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Now, go to your start menu. Right click on "Computer". Go to properties
#192 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Along the left side, there should be a link to "Advanced system settings" or something similar
#193 [01:23] <killking72> k
#194 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Got it?
#195 [01:23] <killking72> yea
#196 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Okay, there should now be a button for environment variables, click on that
#197 [01:24] <killking72> gotcha
#198 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Bottom panel should be system variables. Look for one named "PATH"
#199 [01:24] <killking72> found it
#200 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Great, now for the value. What you want to notice is that there's a bunch of paths in there, each one is seperated by a semi-colon (;)
#201 [01:25] <killking72> aaahhh
#202 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> What you're going to do is, edit the value, and add in a semi-colon..
#203 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> followed by C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\
#204 [01:25] <killking72> add jsp?
#205 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> So it'll be ;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\
#206 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> No spaces before or after the semicolon
#207 [01:26] <killking72> wait
#208 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> notice I also left out the javaw.exe at the end
#209 [01:26] <killking72> what if i have something in there
#210 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> You add it to the end
#211 [01:26] <killking72> brain fart
#212 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Leave everything else as is
#213 [01:26] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :O
#214 [01:27] <killking72> ok
#215 [01:27] <killking72> now what?
#216 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Okay, now you can close that
#217 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Open up a command prompt again. Type in: java -version
#218 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> See if it gives you back any errors
#219 [01:28] <killking72> uhh
#220 [01:28] <killking72> yea
#221 [01:28] <killking72> but what directory should i be in?
#222 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Hold on, same error?
#223 [01:28] <killking72> yea
#224 [01:29] <killking72> got it
#225 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> You didn't add it right then, go back to your computer, properties, advanced system settings, environment variables
#226 [01:29] <killking72> no i did
#227 [01:29] <killking72> i wasnt in C:\
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#229 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#230 [01:29] <killking72> 1.6.0.24 is the version
#231 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> Oh, great, okay.
#232 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> java works then
#233 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> Now you can go launch the server as normal
#234 [01:30] <killking72> i was in users\kris
#235 [01:30] <killking72> the jsp?
#236 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> jsp?
#237 [01:30] <killking72> sec
#238 [01:30] <killking72> phale
#239 [01:30] <killking72> the jar
#240 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#241 [01:30] <killking72> i didnt have much sleep last night
#242 [01:31] <killking72> says the same thing.
#243 [01:31] <killking72> it starts but says not enough ram
#244 [01:31] <killking72> should i use the .bat i made?
#245 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#246 [01:32] <killking72> sec leme type it in
#247 [01:34] <killking72> ok
#248 [01:34] <killking72> on the command prompt should i be in C:\ or the folder that has minecraft?
#249 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> in the folder that has minecraft_server.jar
#250 [01:35] <killking72> so cd to the minecraft folder?
#251 [01:37] <killking72> uhh...
#252 [01:37] <killking72> would you make fun of me if i said i was useing the command for linux?
#253 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#254 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> command for linux?
#255 [01:37] <killking72> well thank god i didnt do that
#256 [01:38] <killking72> ava -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#257 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.jar is the client....
#258 [01:38] <killking72> i was useing that instead java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#259 [01:38] * GreyVulpine doesn't judge
#259 [01:39] <killking72> so yea....type in the 2nd one?
#260 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Um, yeah
#261 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have on the system?
#262 [01:40] <killking72> 5gb and 1 gig of vram
#263 [01:40] <SevFTW> guys, I made a huge room (23x25x3 WxLxH) what should I make it?
#264 [01:41] <killking72> you there?
#265 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> Yeah?
#266 [01:41] <killking72> that's how much ram
#267 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> I gotcha, that should be enough then
#268 [01:42] <SevFTW> anyone?
#269 [01:42] <killking72> make a fountain man
#270 [01:42] <killking72> what i did
#271 [01:42] <killking72> and a stripper pole
#272 [01:42] <SevFTW> stripper pole...
#273 [01:43] <SevFTW> hmmmm ;)
#274 [01:43] <killking72> well yea
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#276 [01:43] <killking72> and it didnt work
#277 [01:43] <VoxelHead> Sup ssen.
#278 [01:43] <ssen> Hello VoxelHead
#279 [01:43] <VoxelHead> hey
#280 [01:43] <xales> Fox, fire everything at ssen
#281 [01:43] <xales> ._.
#282 [01:44] <xales> Vox, fire everything at ssen
#283 [01:44] <ssen> ;(
#284 [01:44] <killking72> grey?
#285 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> ?
#286 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> What did you put in? What error is it giving you?
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#288 [01:46] <TheNytangel> !isdown minecraft.net
#289 [01:46] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#290 [01:46] <TheNytangel> :P
#291 [01:46] <TheNytangel> :o
#292 [01:46] <killking72> the same thing
#293 [01:46] <VoxelHead> ARRRRGH!
#294 [01:46] <killking72> what should the .bat look like
#295 [01:46] <TheNytangel> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#296 [01:46] <GreyBot> TheNytangel: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#297 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, the same thing?
#298 [01:47] <killking72> java is not a recognized command
#299 [01:47] * GreyVulpine blinks
#299 [01:47] <xales> GreyVulpine: I believe the trailing semicolon is needed in the PATH - not sure if you mentioned that
#300 [01:48] <killking72> what should the .bat look like?
#301 [01:48] <killking72> i'll go check
#302 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> no trailing semicolon if it's the last path
#303 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> I'm 90% sure about that
#304 [01:48] <xales> GreyVulpine: I've had someone have it not work and fix it by adding a trailing semicolon
#305 [01:48] <killking72> i mean i didnt see one when i was entering it
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#307 [01:48] <xales> however, it might just be that they didn't know what they were doing and changed something else
#308 [01:49] <killking72> thank you xales
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#310 [01:49] <VoxelHead> uh oh, it's Sophiera
#311 [01:49] <killking72> i was careful and scared of misclicking
#312 [01:49] <Sophiera> ???
#313 [01:49] <stibe> hey! i just bought the game and can´t get it started >.<
#314 [01:49] <Sophiera> I haven't said anything D:
#315 [01:49] <xales> Sophiera: ignore that...it's a stupid bot, that is supposed to be off
#316 [01:49] <xales> stibe: why can't you?
#317 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#318 [01:49] <VoxelHead> *goes to find someone more interesting to talk to*
#319 [01:50] <Sophiera> lol
#320 [01:50] <stibe> can´t connect to server it sais
#321 [01:50] <killking72> ok so any more idea?
#322 [01:50] <Sophiera> I was just checking around to see if the servers are up, because I couldn't log in earlier
#323 [01:50] <xales> killking72: did you put a trailing semicolon in the PATH?
#324 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Servers are down again
#325 [01:50] <stibe> and the web based one don´t come up at all
#326 [01:50] <Sophiera> ah
#327 [01:50] <Sophiera> but somehow i managed to get through right just now
#328 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> xales - We confirmed that java was working with java -version
#329 [01:50] <Sophiera> I got into the web one
#330 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure it's right..
#331 [01:51] <xales> GreyVulpine: oh, ok then
#332 [01:51] <losyikes> when running a server does it use the same map after reboot?
#333 [01:51] <ngc0202> argh
#334 [01:51] <killking72> there's a problem
#335 [01:51] <stibe> and downloaded the newest java
#336 [01:51] <xales> losyikes: yes
#337 [01:51] <ngc0202> got banned from mah fav channel :/
#338 [01:51] <killking72> i forgot the \ in c:\
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#340 [01:51] <losyikes> thx :)
#341 [01:51] <xales> stibe: the servers are down, just be patient
#342 [01:51] <killking72> YAY
#343 [01:52] <stibe> okey, then it´s not just me beeing a total noob this time
#344 [01:52] <stibe> thx man :)
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#346 [01:52] <hearinq> i need help
#347 [01:52] <killking72> which serverse?
#348 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> With
#349 [01:52] <killking72> servers?
#350 [01:52] <hearinq> servers
#351 [01:52] <hearinq> well no
#352 [01:52] <hearinq> when i hit login on my starter
#353 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Authentication server is down
#354 [01:53] <hearinq> it says cannot connect to minecraft.net
#355 [01:53] <Sophiera> oh mine is a friend's server, not any of the official ones
#356 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? mc.net/authdown
#357 [01:53] <VoxelHead> mc.net/authdown: If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
#358 [01:53] <xales> Sophiera: There are no official servers
#359 [01:53] <killking72> ok xales you've been able to connect to my server but lots of other people cant
#360 [01:53] <killking72> any idea why that is?
#361 [01:53] <xales> the servers that are down are the auth servers
#362 [01:53] <hearinq> i made a diamond sword pixel art :)
#363 [01:53] <stibe> is there any place to see the server status btw?
#364 [01:53] <xales> killking72: they are using the wrong IP or you didn't port forward correctly
#365 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#366 [01:53] <xales> stibe: Nope
#367 [01:53] <killking72> i've done both
#368 [01:54] <ngc0202> doesnt mean correctly
#369 [01:54] <xales> what IP are they using?
#370 [01:54] <hearinq> i cant even connect to minecraft.net when i hit login
#371 [01:54] <killking72> uhh now i cant even connect to my own server
#372 [01:54] <ngc0202> haha
#373 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> hearinq - Authentication server is down
#374 [01:54] <VoxelHead> Prepare to meet your horrible doom.
#375 [01:54] <hearinq> ooh
#376 [01:54] <hearinq> only for dedi servers?
#377 [01:55] <ngc0202> ??
#378 [01:55] <hearinq> dedicated
#379 [01:55] <hearinq> paid for
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#381 [01:55] <VoxelHead> wilkommen okbar
#382 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> .set motd Authentication server is down. Please be patient and use the in-browser client until it's back up
#383 [01:55] <stibe> also, when i try whit the web browers one, nothing loads, it all blank, any idea why? is it cause of the server status?
#384 [01:55] <ngc0202> wie ast okbar?
#385 [01:55] <ngc0202> ist
#386 [01:55] <Okbar> ?
#387 [01:55] <xales> stibe: it's possible, but unlikely. what browser?
#388 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> stibe - That's probably something to do with your java then.
#389 [01:55] <killking72> ok so the authentication servers are down
#390 [01:55] <stibe> firefox
#391 [01:55] <killking72> i can still log on though
#392 [01:55] <xales> stibe: do you have the latest Java installed?
#393 [01:56] <stibe> yeah, and newest version of firefox aswell, might need a restart for java to work, will try that
#394 [01:56] <killking72> what ip do you put when connecting to you own server?
#395 [01:56] <killking72> loopback or your public ip?
#396 [01:57] <losyikes> can do both
#397 [01:57] <stibe> if it works i thank you for the help, or els i´ll be back after my reboot
#398 [01:57] <killking72> ok i cant connect to my own server
#399 [01:57] <killking72> superfail
#400 [01:57] <ngc0202> answer his question
#401 [01:57] <ngc0202> that might help
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#403 [03:01] <Zi> Hey, hey! I am having a problem.
#404 [03:01] <ngc0202> hey
#405 [03:01] <xales> Zi: With?
#406 [03:01] <Zi> I can now see that the authentication server is down, but I can't use the in-browser client.
#407 [03:01] <Zi> It just whitescreens.
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#409 [03:02] <xales> Zi: What browser?
#410 [03:02] <stibe> worked after a simpl reboot of the pc ^^
#411 [03:02] <Zi> Chrome.. and nevermind... It just loaded.
#412 [03:02] <stibe> thx xales
#413 [03:03] <Zi> Haha,
#414 [03:03] <Zi> I feel rather stupid now.
#415 [03:03] <Sophiera> for big projects, do you use diamond tools or stojne?
#416 [03:03] <stibe> someone should buy you flowers xales
#417 [03:03] <stibe> :P
#418 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> If I have ops on the server, for big projects, TNT and gold tools
#419 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Fastest way to clear big rooms
#420 [03:04] <Sophiera> oh right, gold
#421 [03:04] <Sophiera> i haven't tried it yet to be honest
#422 [03:04] <ngc0202> lol
#423 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> it's quick, but has extremely low durability
#424 [03:04] <ngc0202> lol i just give myself a stack
#425 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> Same
#426 [03:04] <ngc0202> haha
#427 [03:04] <VoxelHead> i have already stuffed my normal human belly with delicious human filth that i could not eat another bite
#428 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> I go through 64 gold pickaxes like nothing though
#429 [03:05] <Sophiera> i'm not an op so too bad :(
#430 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Then, fastest way to clear a room, while conserving the precious iron.. is stone
#431 [03:05] <VoxelHead> Poor Smeagol, poor Smeagol.
#432 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> Only use iron for needed ores
#433 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> And diamond is even rarer
#434 [03:06] <Sophiera> i have about 4 stacks of iron so... XD
#435 [03:06] <Sophiera> i used stone, then i got tired and made a bunch of iron picks
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#438 [03:09] <VoxelHead> Bye djspinna666.
#439 [03:09] <ngc0202> haha bückstabü
#440 [03:09] <VoxelHead> release me! release me or suffer the wrath of VoxelHead
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#442 [03:11] <VoxelHead> are you here to fumigate the moose nipple?
#443 [03:12] <ngc0202> u scared him away haha
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#445 [03:12] <VoxelHead> GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD!
#446 [03:14] <Zi> Nice, Voxel. <3
#447 [03:14] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :~(
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#451 [03:18] <ngc0202> oh crap
#452 [03:18] <ngc0202> where the hell did the last 2 hours go
#453 [03:19] <Bob_Sack> daylight savings mang
#454 [03:20] <Bob_Sack> goes from 11:59 to 1:00
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#458 [03:28] <ngc0202> oh damn
#459 [03:29] <ngc0202> i totally forgot about that
#460 [03:29] <ngc0202> haha
#461 [03:29] <Bob_Sack> yeah i did too, i only noticed easterners were at 3:30 and im at 11:30pm
#462 [03:29] <Bob_Sack> that's 1 hour too many =P
#463 [03:30] <ngc0202> lol
#464 [03:30] <ngc0202> gonna finish this album and get some sleep haha
#465 [03:31] <ngc0202> cuz apparently its 3:30 now
#466 [03:31] <ngc0202> haha
#467 [03:31] <ngc0202> thats an hour too late
#468 [03:31] <Bob_Sack> lol yeah
#469 [03:32] <ngc0202> Liebe ist für alle da
#470 [03:32] <Bob_Sack> eh i dont let daylight savings push me around
#471 [03:32] <ngc0202> (nicht für mich)
#472 [03:32] <ngc0202> haha
#473 [03:32] <ngc0202> british summer time starts whhen?
#474 [03:32] <Bob_Sack> lol idk
#475 [03:32] <ngc0202> 27th?
#476 [03:33] <ngc0202> yepper
#477 [03:33] <ngc0202> 1am
#478 [03:35] <ngc0202> argh why does the album have to end on such a sad song
#479 [03:37] <ngc0202> gute nacht alle
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#489 [03:51] <mr_pants> hi ive got at free code from freeminecraft and when im gonna type it in iit says that its incorrect or already been used please help me
#490 [03:52] <Shadow386> dont trust codes from them, they're fake
#491 [03:52] <adamkex> authentication server offline?
#492 [03:52] <xales> adamkex: indeed
#493 [03:52] <xales> you can play in the browser though
#494 [03:53] <Shadow386> I'll play in your browser xales
#495 [03:53] <xales> I look forward to it
#496 [03:53] <xales> by the way
#497 [03:53] <xales> how goes nether/PVP? D:
#498 [03:53] <Shadow386> mmm
#499 [03:53] <Shadow386> Well no luck yet
#500 [03:53] <Shadow386> since the nether is down in vanilla, we cant do anything
#501 [03:54] <xales> :<
#502 [03:54] <Shadow386> when you try to respawn, it just freezes
#503 [03:54] <Shadow386> go try it on a personal server
#504 [03:54] <xales> yeah, I know
#505 [03:54] <xales> I did :)
#506 [03:54] <Shadow386> oh right we tried that
#507 [03:54] <Shadow386> lol
#508 [03:55] <xales> oh, Shadow386, I'm finally getting a dedicated server, whenever they decide to realize I paid for it ;_;
#509 [03:55] <Shadow386> lol
#510 [03:55] <Shadow386> where at?
#511 [03:55] <xales> just a "Thank you for your order, *print receipt*" after "Buy"
#512 [03:56] <xales> no email, nothing D:
#513 [03:56] <Shadow386> if uts fehosting it takes 48-72 hours
#514 [03:56] <Shadow386> its*
#515 [03:56] <xales> Shadow386: it's not
#516 [03:56] <xales> http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/ServerPremiumDualCoreM
#517 [03:56] <Shadow386> Oh god you're doomed
#518 [03:56] <xales> I mean, I'd expect a confirmation email or something
#519 [03:56] <xales> :<
#520 [03:56] <Shadow386> I've heard even worse things form 1and1
#521 [03:57] <Shadow386> from*
#522 [03:57] <xales> I've had several friends who have used 1and1 for stuff extensively
#523 [03:57] <Shadow386> meh
#524 [03:57] <xales> they say that most of the stuff is their shared hosting
#525 [03:57] <xales> and the UK branch
#526 [03:57] <Shadow386> I found this from a friend i might switch to if my hosting company doesnt go well
#527 [03:57] <Shadow386> http://serverstadium.com/
#528 [03:57] <Shadow386> same specs except dual core instead of quad, but 8 gigs for $50
#529 [03:57] <Shadow386> I nearly shat myself
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#533 [04:14] <dopeghoti> xales: you didn't end up going with Joe?
#534 [04:14] <dopeghoti> I've had bad experiences with !&!
#535 [04:14] <dopeghoti> er, 1&1
#536 [04:14] <xales> dopeghoti: better specs+less restrictive TOS for same price
#537 [04:14] * xales was unsure of which to go for, but went for 1and1
#537 [04:15] <xales> I've heard bad stuff about them, but mostly the UK branch/shared hosting - the server stuff and "Dedicated Server Support Team" aren't bad, or so I've heard
#538 [04:16] <dopeghoti> I did a lot (a _lot_) of VPS and dedicated hosting with FraudMart, and 1&1's turnaround on support tickets was abyssmal
#539 [04:16] <dopeghoti> they were all on top of invoicing though. Priorities, I guess.
#540 [04:17] <dopeghoti> Apropos of nothing: The finale of Mafia ][ is rather.. anticlimactic.
#541 [04:19] <xales> dopeghoti: The stuff I've heard from several people is to just call the seperate number they give you for dedicated server stuff, because they are actually intelligent and in the US (PA actually, quite close to where I am)
#542 [04:19] <xales> so...we will see
#543 [04:19] <xales> if I don't like it, I'll look elsewhere :)
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#546 [04:21] <aetherian> heya
#547 [04:21] <xales> sup
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#550 [04:24] <aetherian> ehh
#551 [04:24] <aetherian> not /too/ much
#552 [04:25] * aetherian starts a tl;dr single person talk about his failputer
#552 [04:25] <aetherian> sigh
#553 [04:25] <xales> sigh
#554 [04:26] * VoxelHead sigh
#554 [04:26] <aetherian> o.o
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#556 [04:26] <aetherian> I learned one thing, anyway, linux mint fails (at least for me)
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#558 [04:28] <aetherian> :)
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#560 [04:29] <aetherian> hello shu-naw
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#563 [04:31] <aetherian> ugh, my lava lamp has too many air bubbles in the... stuff
#564 [04:31] <aetherian> =\
#565 [04:31] <mib_4ug6kx> hey guys, my in-browser client isnt working either
#566 [04:31] <aetherian> you have java, I presume?
#567 [04:31] <mib_4ug6kx> yes
#568 [04:32] <mib_4ug6kx> got the newest update too
#569 [04:32] <xales> What browser?
#570 [04:32] <mib_4ug6kx> just get a white screen
#571 [04:32] <mib_4ug6kx> firefox
#572 [04:32] <AG_Scott> aetherian, people still have lava lamps? ._.
#573 [04:32] <xales> Make sure you have the Java plugin for Firefox installed
#574 [04:32] <mib_4ug6kx> yes scott, i would have one but im afraid ofit
#575 [04:32] <mib_4ug6kx> let me look at it...
#576 [04:33] <aetherian> AG_Clinton, an old one that hasn't been powered on for >year
#577 [04:33] <AG_Scott> I'm very... minimalistic.
#578 [04:33] <mib_4ug6kx> it says v6.0.24
#579 [04:33] <AG_Scott> Almost everything is black and white and no clutter.
#580 [04:33] <mib_4ug6kx> of the java console
#581 [04:33] <AG_Scott> OCD <3
#582 [04:33] <arensirb> mcnet down again ? :3
#583 [04:33] <mib_4ug6kx> yes
#584 [04:33] <aetherian> argh, too many blubbies
#585 [04:34] <mib_4ug6kx> Minecraft.net has become self aware!
#586 [04:34] <arensirb> I dont get why people accept this
#587 [04:34] <arensirb> if everyone playing mc would mail mojang
#588 [04:34] <arensirb> : p
#589 [04:34] <arensirb> They'd get alot of mail :P
#590 [04:35] <aetherian> night guys, gotta be up early tomorrow
#591 [04:35] <AG_Scott> So this girl posted her birthday party on facebook as a public event.
#592 [04:35] <AG_Scott> It now has over 15k confirmed guests.
#593 [04:35] <mib_4ug6kx> and i showed up
#594 [04:35] <arensirb> LOL
#595 [04:35] <mib_4ug6kx> asking for booz
#596 [04:36] <AG_Scott> I quit having parties.
#597 [04:37] <AG_Scott> retarded friends who do not know what RSVP means
#598 [04:37] <mib_4ug6kx> me too, but i love showing up and creaping
#599 [04:37] <relsqui> respondez, si vous plais
#600 [04:37] <relsqui> except I don't know how to spell French
#601 [04:37] <Bob_Sack> arensirb: http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/4/40/Notchtruth.png
#602 [04:38] <arensirb> That was just mean
#603 [04:38] <arensirb> And his hat is kinda cool :34
#604 [04:38] <mib_4ug6kx> bob_sack
#605 [04:38] <mib_4ug6kx> i hate you
#606 [04:39] <Bob_Sack> i pissed myself lol'ing after seein that pic
#607 [04:39] <AG_Scott> It's encyclopedia dramatica what do you expect :P
#608 [04:40] <arensirb> AG_Scott: Just shows there are pretty big retards out there
#609 [04:40] <Bob_Sack> ED is the bible of the religion known as the internet
#610 [04:40] <AG_Scott> I expected a wiener or two.
#611 [04:40] <mib_4ug6kx> so uh, when i log in via browser, and go to the client i get a white screen where the game should be
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#614 [04:43] <mib_4ug6kx> so uh in the help thing im not getting any help why is? D:
#615 [04:44] <xales> reinstall Java
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#617 [04:44] <mib_4ug6kx> reinstall?
#618 [04:44] <mib_4ug6kx> howdo? @.@
#619 [04:44] <lAte> cant connect to minecraft?!
#620 [04:44] <xales> uninstalll it...then install it again
#621 [04:44] <xales> lAte: It's down. Nobody can connect. Play offline or play in the browser
#622 [04:45] <lAte> okay
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#624 [04:47] <escortkeel> fff
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#626 [04:47] <xales> ...?
#627 [04:47] <escortkeel> ??
#628 [04:47] <W4RF1GHT3R> hello
#629 [04:47] <escortkeel> hi
#630 [04:47] <xales> hi
#631 [04:47] <W4RF1GHT3R> is here anyone he speak's german? my english is one only shit :D
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#633 [04:48] <TheBix> is auth down?
#634 [04:48] <xales> yes
#635 [04:49] <ryuuji> it appears to, yes
#636 [04:49] <TheBix> why?
#637 [04:49] <W4RF1GHT3R> kann jemand zu minecraft connecten?
#638 [04:49] <W4RF1GHT3R> * Kann jeder hier eine Verbindung zu minecraft?
#639 [04:49] <ryuuji> creepers destroyed the auth servers maybe ?
#640 [04:49] <W4RF1GHT3R> here can someone connected to Services mine craft
#641 [04:50] <Bob_Sack> if my creepers, you mean bad programming, then yes
#642 [04:50] <TheBix> error code 500
#643 [04:50] <ryuuji> i wouldn't say it's bad programming
#644 [04:50] <TheBix> that must mean notch botched his code.
#645 [04:50] <xales> W4RF1GHT3R: It is down. Just wait for it to come back up
#646 [04:50] <xales> TheBix: Incorrect
#647 [04:50] <W4RF1GHT3R> shows you know when that is?
#648 [04:50] <TheBix> well not MUST. but it means something is screwed
#649 [04:50] <xales> W4RF1GHT3R: No
#650 [04:50] <arensirb> I think my suggestion was good
#651 [04:50] <arensirb> Every mc player emailing notch/mojang
#652 [04:50] <xales> TheBix: Like the server is overloaded? :P
#653 [04:50] <TheBix> "The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request. "
#654 [04:51] <W4RF1GHT3R> okay
#655 [04:51] <W4RF1GHT3R> thank you
#656 [04:51] <TheBix> That is not load.
#657 [04:51] <W4RF1GHT3R> I'm gone
#658 [04:51] <arensirb> TheBix: code-error?
#659 [04:51] <TheBix> Load is "502 Bad Gateway" or "503 Service Unavailable"
#660 [04:51] <xales> TheBix: And you know this because...?
#661 [04:51] <xales> It's a generic error
#662 [04:51] <ryuuji> there is some kind of problem with the new launcher, because I can log in just fine with the old launcher :/
#663 [04:51] <TheBix> xales: know what?
#664 [04:51] <TheBix> I know that thats what made it screw up
#665 [04:51] <xales> and no, that depends entirely on the load balancing setup
#666 [04:51] <arensirb> ryuuji: They dont use the same auth
#667 [04:51] <ryuuji> that makes sense.
#668 [04:51] <Bob_Sack> new launcher has been broken since its release
#669 [04:52] <TheBix> xales: yeah but I'm speaking SPECIFICALLY about the minecraft server
#670 [04:52] <xales> Bob_Sack: The launcher works fine
#671 [04:52] <Kealper> TheBix: stop complaining...complaining fixes nothing
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#673 [04:52] <TheBix> Kealper: Did you even read anything I said
#674 [04:52] <TheBix> I'm not complaining.
#675 [04:52] <arensirb> Kealper: 100 000 mails might do something
#676 [04:52] <Kealper> looks like complaining to me
#677 [04:52] <xales> TheBix: Specifically, the problem is load
#678 [04:52] <ryuuji> I can't use the in-browser game either sadly, I'm on linux and it simply wont load :( (grey empty box)
#679 [04:52] <xales> Stuff doesn't just magically break on it's own
#680 [04:52] <TheBix> Kealper: then try reading AND understanding.
#681 [04:52] <pwnus> Where is a good place to look up the IRC commands?
#682 [04:52] <TheBix> xales: could not be load too for that matter.
#683 [04:53] <Kealper> TheBix: don't be an asshat or i'll have to ask you to leave
#684 [04:53] <xales> TheBix: And you know this how...?
#685 [04:53] <Kealper> we know it's broke, we can't do anything about it, stop telling us
#686 [04:53] <TheBix> xales: Know what?
#687 [04:53] <xales> "< TheBix> xales: could not be load too for that matter."
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#689 [04:53] <arensirb> 09:52 <@xales> Stuff doesn't just magically break on it's own
#690 [04:53] <TheBix> Yeah. There are ways to break things without load.
#691 [04:53] <arensirb> no, but wrong code breaks it
#692 [04:53] <TheBix> this ^ (as an example)
#693 [04:54] <xales> arensirb: They don't push untested code to the live servers
#694 [04:54] <xales> :P
#695 [04:54] <arensirb> xales: Can I get that on a written paper?
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#697 [04:54] <TheBix> I've never got a 500 back when it was overloaded
#698 [04:54] <ryuuji> Kealper: we do have some right to complain about the servers going down lately .. after all, we are paying for a service rather than just a game
#699 [04:54] <TheBix> and they're coming back pretty quick...
#700 [04:54] <xales> TheBix: You don't know anything about it other then the error it gives you
#701 [04:55] <xales> You can't just magically infer why something went down
#702 [04:55] <Kealper> ryuuji: complaining is fine, but excessive complaining is just annoying, since we are all in the same boat
#703 [04:55] <TheBix> xales: yeah but thats where common sense comes in
#704 [04:55] <TheBix> and more importantly "why".
#705 [04:55] <xales> "common sense" -> "I've talked personally with mollstam about these issues, I think I know more than you do"
#706 [04:55] <ryuuji> Kealper: oh yes, I agree with you on that part
#707 [04:55] <arensirb> TheBix: Actually
#708 [04:55] <arensirb> a 500 could be overload
#709 [04:55] <TheBix> could be.
#710 [04:55] <arensirb> If the servers behind it is overloaded
#711 [04:55] <TheBix> but also could not be.
#712 [04:55] <arensirb> and some method fails
#713 [04:55] <arensirb> that might throw a 500
#714 [04:56] <TheBix> I'm just saying I never got one when it was overloaded before
#715 [04:56] <arensirb> I guess :P
#716 [04:56] <xales> TheBix: But you don't know when it is overloaded
#717 [04:56] <TheBix> so its only common sense to assume something else went wron.
#718 [04:56] <TheBix> xales: 503?
#719 [04:56] <arensirb> Service unavailable
#720 [04:56] <TheBix> Or 504
#721 [04:57] <TheBix> OR 502
#722 [04:57] <arensirb> isnt 504 file not found?
#723 [04:57] <TheBix> lol
#724 [04:57] <xales> ANY of those could mean it is overloaded
#725 [04:57] <arensirb> no, thats 404
#726 [04:57] <TheBix> sorry*
#727 [04:57] <xales> including 500
#728 [04:57] <Kealper> i could find more peace and quiet sitting on a park bench next to two old ladies
#729 [04:57] <TheBix> xales: correct
#730 [04:57] <TheBix> you get a gold star.
#731 [04:57] <arensirb> Kealper: Why are you here then ? :3
#732 [04:57] <arensirb> :Pø
#733 [04:57] <Kealper> arensirb: my @ says i have to be
#734 [04:57] <arensirb> oh
#735 [04:57] <arensirb> I d ont agree
#736 [04:58] <arensirb> you can go do something else if you want to
#737 [04:58] <xales> you have no further information on it, so it is illogical and against "common sense" to assume it is only overloaded when you get such errors
#738 [04:58] <xales> anyway
#739 [04:58] <arensirb> Do you get paid to sit here? :3
#740 [04:58] <xales> I'm tired of arguing with idiots who argue for the sake of arguing
#741 [04:58] <TheBix> xales: how so?
#742 [04:58] <arensirb> xales: Monty Python
#743 [04:58] <Kealper> and a 500 error could be caused from some issue with the load balencer failing to talk to one of the servers behind it
#744 [04:58] <TheBix> Kealper: correct
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#746 [04:58] <arensirb> Err
#747 [04:59] <arensirb> If that was correct
#748 [04:59] <Kealper> if it responded with garbage faildata from being overworked, that could throw said error
#749 [04:59] <arensirb> Shouldnt next attempt work?
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#751 [04:59] <Kealper> minecraft.net works fine for me
#752 [04:59] <Kealper> so it was probably just the one server that he was getting tossed on that was sucking
#753 [04:59] <arensirb> "cant connect to minecraft.net
#754 [04:59] <pwnus> Kealper: Hi I'm having trouble posting in #minecraft. I know I need to register but I cat find the command to do it anywhere
#755 [04:59] <TheBix> Do you guys not understand what the word "could" means? Especially xales for that matter.
#756 [04:59] <arensirb> pwnus: nickserv
#757 [05:00] <Kealper> pwnus: /msg nickserv help register
#758 [05:00] <Kealper> type that
#759 [05:00] <pwnus> Thad
#760 [05:00] <pwnus> Thanks
#761 [05:00] <TheBix> Who had to resort to calling me an idiot because he doesn't understand basic English.
#762 [05:00] * xales kicked TheBix from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Want to be rude? Take it to /dev/null)
#763 [05:01] <Kealper> just as i was typing that he could be kicked for being an asshat to chan ops
#764 [05:01] <Kealper> lol
#765 [05:01] <ryuuji> "Take it to /dev/null" haha
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#767 [05:01] <arensirb> Kealper: Actually, the thought that "ops is allways right" is wrong
#768 [05:01] <arensirb> I hate that kinda ruleset
#769 [05:02] <arensirb> 2. if ops are wrong, look at rule #1
#770 [05:02] <TheBix> nice.
#771 [05:02] <Kealper> arensirb: even if they are wrong, their decision is final
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#773 [05:02] <Mantas7776> minecraft.net down
#774 [05:02] <Mantas7776> but wtf?
#775 [05:02] <arensirb> Mantas7776: welcome to the club
#776 [05:02] <Mantas7776> web is up
#777 [05:02] <Kealper> Mantas7776: yes, it is down right now
#778 [05:02] <Kealper> login portion is down
#779 [05:02] <Mantas7776> why minecraft goes down?
#780 [05:02] <TheBix> exactly
#781 [05:02] <Kealper> too many people :/
#782 [05:02] <Mantas7776> why notch not get a better host
#783 [05:03] <Bob_Sack> touche
#784 [05:03] <Kealper> ._.
#785 [05:03] <relsqui> Mantas7776: they're working on it, but they want to do it right, not just quickly
#786 [05:03] <relsqui> a quick move to a "better" host is what got them where they are now
#787 [05:03] <Mantas7776> notch should use cloud
#788 [05:03] <relsqui> so they're being more careful this time
#789 [05:03] <Kealper> Mantas7776: Mojang is
#790 [05:03] <xales> Mantas7776: that...is the problem. they are
#791 [05:03] <TheBix> why is it always down. You'd think with the millions Notch has, he could at least afford to keep his server working and his reputation for that matter
#792 [05:03] <arensirb> Mantas7776: thats the problem
#793 [05:03] <Kealper> the cloud isn't cool enough
#794 [05:03] <xales> ??> TheBix
#795 [05:03] <xales> ??> TheBix attitude
#796 [05:03] <VoxelHead> TheBix: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#797 [05:03] <TheBix> Yes?
#798 [05:03] <xales> <_<
#799 [05:04] <VoxelHead> TheBix: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-proiority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#800 [05:04] <Mantas7776> maybe i need download pirated version to play with my nick?
#801 [05:04] <Mantas7776> now it stuck at loging in
#802 [05:04] <Bob_Sack> you'll get banned for slandering the lord notch bix
#803 [05:04] <Kealper> Mantas7776: just click Play Offline :/
#804 [05:04] <relsqui> I love how people assume that notch personally has millions of dollars
#805 [05:04] <relsqui> as if he has no expenses whatsoever
#806 [05:04] <arensirb> Mantas7776: You can just press offline
#807 [05:04] <relsqui> and just hoards all the money people have paid for the game
#808 [05:04] <arensirb> But you need a server that uses offline mode
#809 [05:04] <TheBix> xales: come on. There is only so far you can push a person, before they start acting rude.
#810 [05:04] <Kealper> we don't hand out bans for hating on Notch, we do hand out bans for people who are not mature enough to be in here
#811 [05:04] <relsqui> TheBix: grown-ups walk away when they get to that point
#812 [05:05] <xales> TheBix: I've asked you to stop whining. If you continue, you can take a break from the channel
#813 [05:05] <arensirb> maybe he needs some crackers to go with the whine?
#814 [05:05] <arensirb> do you supply crackers? :P
#815 [05:05] <TheBix> why do you always have to be on the offensive, xales ? even when others aren't
#816 [05:05] <relsqui> I always hear it as "cheese." but I guess crackers without cheese is better than vice versa.
#817 [05:05] <relsqui> TheBix: you may not have noticed but everyone else seems to be against you too XD
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#819 [05:06] <Bob_Sack> not me
#820 [05:06] <relsqui> except that guy apparently
#821 [05:06] <Mantas7776> how to change nick
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#823 [05:06] <arensirb> I agree with both of them
#824 [05:06] <Mantas7776> with cheat engine?
#825 [05:06] <arensirb> Mantas7776: /nick
#826 [05:06] <arensirb> what?
#827 [05:06] <Mantas7776> not at mirc
#828 [05:06] <Bob_Sack> lmao wut
#829 [05:06] <Mantas7776> at minecraft
#830 [05:06] <Mantas7776> i have my offline mdoe server
#831 [05:06] <relsqui> Mantas7776: can't currently
#832 [05:06] <arensirb> google.com
#833 [05:06] <Kealper> Mantas7776: we don't provide info on circumventing minecraft security
#834 [05:07] <arensirb> security
#835 [05:07] <arensirb> right
#836 [05:07] <Kealper> i never said it was good >.>
#837 [05:07] <arensirb> Security -> Shut down servers so noone can log in
#838 [05:07] <Bob_Sack> anyways bix is right, this just isn't the right place to be right
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#840 [05:07] <arensirb> Bob_Sack: As I said earlier, everyone should mail mojang
#841 [05:07] <xales> oh, Kealper, aparrantly #minecraft and #minecrafthelp are sharing bans now
#842 [05:07] <arensirb> I bet they will be happy to get ... ALOT of mails
#843 [05:08] <xales> or, at least, some of them
#844 [05:08] <Kealper> xales: via linked bots?
#845 [05:08] <relsqui> oh, neat
#846 [05:08] <relsqui> that's sensible
#847 [05:08] <xales> well, permanent bans set to be global added to the bot by hand
#848 [05:08] <arensirb> mcn@mcnorge:~$ ./mcnet.php
#849 [05:08] <arensirb> Server login is up!
#850 [05:08] <arensirb> Launcher login is DOWN!
#851 [05:08] <Kealper> using the two bots for that would be cool
#852 [05:08] <arensirb> : p
#853 [05:08] <Xiras> i've a big problem with my minecraft server, i cant desytroy/build blocks. Even i mining them they'll respawn instantly, and if i plant some they despawn. Console mean's somethin' 'bout block protection.How can i disable it?
#854 [05:08] <AG_Scott> Do I get privileges in here?
#855 [05:08] <AG_Scott> I assume not as M isn't opped.
#856 [05:08] <relsqui> Xiras: are you near spawn/not opped?
#857 [05:08] <Bob_Sack> just relog xiras
#858 [05:08] <pwnus> /msg NickServ AUTH 856741763
#859 [05:09] <xales> AG_Scott: Voiced users can already kick
#860 [05:09] <xales> use ChanServ
#861 [05:09] <Bob_Sack> my server does that sometimes
#862 [05:09] <arensirb> pwnus: heh
#863 [05:09] <AG_Scott> Oh neat.
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#865 [05:09] <Kealper> /msg nickserv identify hunter2
#866 [05:09] <pwnus> Wops
#867 [05:09] <arensirb> lol
#868 [05:09] <Kealper> pwnus: we won't tell anyone :o
#869 [05:09] <xales> /msg nickserv ghost AG_Scott hunter2
#870 [05:09] <pwnus> Well time for a new nic
#871 [05:09] <Xiras> Not really, i've build far away from it. And build tower and something else, but than it doesn't work at all anymore
#872 [05:09] <xales> Kealper: that's just the AUTH anyway, it's useless once used
#873 [05:09] <relsqui> pwnus: pasting the auth code doesn't endanger your account
#874 [05:09] <xales> ^
#875 [05:10] <arensirb> Xiras: You have build rights right?
#876 [05:10] <AG_Scott> hunter2?
#877 [05:10] <Kealper> ._.
#878 [05:10] <Xiras> Yeah of course
#879 [05:10] * Kealper is switching computers
#879 [05:10] <relsqui> AG_Scott: old joke from bash.org
#880 [05:10] <AG_Scott> Oh.
#881 [05:10] <Mantas7776> fix miencraft.net
#882 [05:10] <Mantas7776> fix miencraft.net
#883 [05:10] <Mantas7776> fix miencraft.net
#884 [05:10] <Bob_Sack> Xiras: just try relogging like i said, see if that works
#885 [05:10] <AG_Scott> Mantas7776, don't s[am!
#886 [05:10] <AG_Scott> spam*
#887 [05:11] <relsqui> see also: http://www.xkcdb.com/?1392
#888 [05:11] <Xiras> i tried yesterday many times
#889 [05:11] <Xiras> Reload plugins and delete some of them
#890 [05:11] <Xiras> Nothing helped
#891 [05:11] <relsqui> Mantas7776: nobody here has any control over minecraft.net o_O you're not even spamming anyone you're actually mad at
#892 [05:11] <xales> Xiras: try running it without any plugins at all
#893 [05:11] <Xiras> even New maps ive createt it doesn't work
#894 [05:11] <pwnus> Ok I'm all registered and authenticated with espernet. Let's see if I can post in #minecraft
#895 [05:11] <Xiras> i'd tried, new map without plugins, new map with plugins. Don't help
#896 [05:12] <xales> pwnus: you didn't AUTH
#897 [05:12] <xales> or, you need to IDENTIFY
#898 [05:12] <arensirb> Xiras: ehh.. does vanilla server support plugins? :p
#899 [05:12] <xales> Xiras: Your computer is capable of running a server, right?
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#901 [05:12] <pwnus> I went to the proper nickserv chat. It said I authenticated
#902 [05:12] <relsqui> pwnus: did you then identify?
#903 [05:12] <Xiras> yeah it is.
#904 [05:13] <xales> relsqui: you generally don't need to...but...
#905 [05:13] <pwnus> Just posted it here first accidentally
#906 [05:13] <xales> Xiras: Specs?
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#908 [05:14] <pwnus> How does one identify?
#909 [05:14] <Xiras> http://www1.euro.dell.com/de/de/home/Desktops/alienware-area-51-alx/pd.aspx?refid=alienware-area-51-alx&s=dhs&cs=dedhs1&ST=alienware%20area%2051%20alx&dgc=ST&cid=41172&lid=1069536&acd=130118919720564
#910 [05:14] <xales> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password
#911 [05:14] <Xiras> There all specs
#912 [05:15] <xales> Xiras: Try launching the Minecraft_server.exe version
#913 [05:15] <xales> !server
#914 [05:15] <xales> ^that one
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#916 [05:15] <Xiras> arensirb: what do u mean with vanilla server support plugins?
#917 [05:15] <pwnus> Yay! Now it works
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#919 [05:16] <pwnus> Thanks for the IRC help
#920 [05:16] <Xiras> i'm using bukkit, dont know it makes a matter?
#921 [05:17] <relsqui> pwnus: welcome :)
#922 [05:17] <mib_8c55i6> I am unable to connect from the launcher of Minecraft, when I bought the game
#923 [05:17] <xales> mib_8c55i6: it is down. just wait, or use the web client, or play offline
#924 [05:18] <mib_8c55i6> ouf
#925 [05:18] <Xiras> that isn't helpfull by trying to get a working server right now ;D
#926 [05:18] <worqy> Hello
#927 [05:18] <pwnus> This same thing happend 2 weeks ago. They are working on it as we speak.
#928 [05:18] <pwnus> It is a beta remember.
#929 [05:18] <Kealper> .set motd Sorry, but the login system for Minecraft is currently down! We are unsure when Minecraft logins will work properly again, so please just sit tight and hope it is sooner rather than later!
#930 [05:18] <Xiras> i try later do reinstall and configure the server. thanks for the help at all =)
#931 [05:19] <Xiras> where is the different between bukkit and craft bukkit?
#932 [05:20] <worqy> I don't know if this is the right place, but could I ask for some redstone circuit help`
#933 [05:20] <relsqui> worqy: totally the right place
#934 [05:20] <xales> worqy: sure. I can't help, but others can
#935 [05:21] <relsqui> yeah, that ^
#936 [05:21] <worqy> okey¨
#937 [05:21] * Kealper looks around then sighs
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#938 [05:22] <worqy> Is here anyone that is good on working with redstone?
#939 [05:22] * Kealper sighs heavily
#939 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what you want to do with redstone
#940 [05:22] <relsqui> just ask, if someone knows they'll answer
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#942 [05:23] <worqy> I need a "gate".
#943 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> To...
#944 [05:23] <Kealper> a "gate"?
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#946 [05:23] <relsqui> which gate?
#947 [05:23] <worqy> two inputs A and B, one output C. if A is powered, C = B. If A is not powered, C is not powered
#948 [05:24] <leiger> Ah, awesome. open this up to ask if the login server is down, and theres a bot telling me that already before I ask :P
#949 [05:24] <Kealper> sounds like an AND gate to me
#950 [05:24] <xales> leiger: Finally someone who reads it ._.
#951 [05:24] <Kealper> although it is 5am so i might be wrong
#952 [05:24] <leiger> LOL
#953 [05:24] <relsqui> Kealper: I believe you're correct
#954 [05:25] <worqy> *searching*
#955 [05:25] <Kealper> worqy: give me a sec, i'll link you to an image of one
#956 [05:25] <leiger> I found an awesome YouTube video that clearly explains how to construct OR, AND, XOR gates and redstone repeaters. I'll see if I can find it again.
#957 [05:25] <Kealper> worqy: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:AND_Gate_New.jpg
#958 [05:26] <Kealper> although that is technically a NAND, it can easily be modified to an AND
#959 [05:26] <TheBix> I got 504 now.
#960 [05:26] <TheBix> whats this about logic gates?
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#963 [05:27] <worqy> Kealper, thanks
#964 [05:28] <Kealper> well actually...no...that is an AND...it's just 5:30 am so i suck
#965 [05:28] <AchimL33D> thanks
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#967 [05:30] <mib_1u75mh> mmkay
#968 [05:31] <TheBix> arensirb: the one the launcher uses
#969 [05:31] <mib_1u75mh> The new one
#970 [05:31] <mib_1u75mh> ?
#971 [05:31] <Kealper> that MOTD should be set much more frequently to issues and such....
#972 [05:31] <mib_1u75mh> lol
#973 [05:31] <mib_1u75mh> Yeah..
#974 [05:31] <mib_1u75mh> i've been trying for the last hour trying to get on
#975 [05:32] <pwnus> mib_1u75mh: Use the web client
#976 [05:32] <arensirb> pwnus: that doesnt work here in chrome :3
#977 [05:32] <TheBix> arensirb: ya
#978 [05:32] <pwnus> arensirb: I've had good luck in firefox and operah
#979 [05:32] <leiger> web client works fine in Google Chrome for me... :S
#980 [05:32] <arensirb> I just get a black square
#981 [05:33] <arensirb> pwnus: ok, I will try Fx
#982 [05:33] <arensirb> leiger: winblows?
#983 [05:33] <TheBix> yeah web client always works when auth is down for some reason :P
#984 [05:33] <Kealper> doesn't use the same auth methods
#985 [05:33] <leiger> I am using Google Chrome 10.0.648.133 beta
#986 [05:33] <pwnus> arensirb: also I find if it fails once, I need to reset my browser to get the java to "re-hook" to try again
#987 [05:33] <leiger> And web client works fine there ^ (with correct Java plugin installed, of course)
#988 [05:33] <arensirb> ehh
#989 [05:33] <arensirb> Kealper:
#990 [05:33] <arensirb> Does the webclient use local files?
#991 [05:34] <Kealper> yes
#992 [05:34] <leiger> arensirb: winblows 7 times. Yeah :P
#993 [05:34] <Kealper> same game
#994 [05:34] <arensirb> so if my local ones are modded
#995 [05:34] <arensirb> the web might not load
#996 [05:34] <Kealper> modded should still load
#997 [05:34] <arensirb> hm
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#999 [05:34] <Kealper> unless you've like....superpimped it
#1000 [05:34] <arensirb> haha
#1001 [05:34] <arensirb> il try moving my local files and let it redownload
#1002 [05:34] <FastCore> wait so the login system is stuffing up?
#1003 [05:35] <Kealper> because it's still using the same stuff from .minecraft :/
#1004 [05:35] <Kealper> FastCore: sadly
#1005 [05:35] <FastCore> hmm that sucks
#1006 [05:35] <Kealper> indeed
#1007 [05:35] <arensirb> THERE we go
#1008 [05:36] <arensirb> LOL
#1009 [05:36] <arensirb> it wont let me continue game after alt tabing
#1010 [05:36] <Kealper> did you F11 it?
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#1012 [05:37] <TheBix> F11?
#1013 [05:37] <Kealper> the F11 key for fullscreening the client
#1014 [05:37] <Kealper> it tends to mess with stuff
#1015 [05:37] <Kealper> since you had to ask, i take that as a no
#1016 [05:38] <TheBix> It also never works for me. it looks like one of the buffers is corrupt
#1017 [05:38] <Kealper> TheBix: what never works?
#1018 [05:38] <TheBix> F11
#1019 [05:38] <TheBix> fullscreen
#1020 [05:39] <Kealper> did you click inside the client before pressing it? because that's worked on pretty much every client i've seen
#1021 [05:39] <TheBix> it looks like one of the screen buffers is corrupt.
#1022 [05:39] <TheBix> of course
#1023 [05:39] <TheBix> I play normally and then switch
#1024 [05:39] <TheBix> if that has anything to do with it
#1025 [05:39] <TheBix> I can take a screen if that helps
#1026 [05:40] <Kealper> idk, only bug i have seen with F11 so far is that mouse coordinates get off-kilter if you go back out of F11
#1027 [05:40] <Kealper> works fine aside from that on both of my machines...might be something with your graphics drivers or java install :/
#1028 [05:41] <TheBix> well I do have an ancient graphics card unfortunately
#1029 [05:41] <TheBix> I also heard that minecraft is not multithreaded. is that true?
#1030 [05:41] <Kealper> fullscreen could be using too much video memory or something then
#1031 [05:41] <TheBix> I doubt its that.
#1032 [05:41] <TheBix> its not THAT ancient
#1033 [05:42] <Kealper> lol
#1034 [05:42] <TheBix> so yeah is minecraft actually not multithreaded (not that it has anything to do with my problem)
#1035 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is not multithreaded
#1036 [05:43] <TheBix> because if not. no fucken wonder it lags on SMP. It uses BLOCKING functions to send and recieve data.
#1037 [05:43] <arensirb> Ok
#1038 [05:43] <arensirb> webclient fucks up my entire browser
#1039 [05:43] <arensirb> :3
#1040 [05:44] <TheBix> .......... How hard is it just to set up a queue of packets to be sent, and have another thread sending em?
#1041 [05:44] <TheBix> seriously... If the server lags, you get FPS lag...
#1042 [05:44] <TheBix> with the current implementation.
#1043 [05:45] <arensirb> TheBix: Seriously!
#1044 [05:45] <arensirb> Do you do anything else than wine?
#1045 [05:45] <arensirb> whine*
#1046 [05:45] <TheBix> sorry I had to rant but that was just to much :3
#1047 [05:45] <arensirb> Go to bed.
#1048 [05:46] <Kealper> i think it does have multiple threads....just not many
#1049 [05:46] <TheBix> actually lets find out. Let me just open my debugger.
#1050 [05:46] <Kealper> minecraft's code is currently in a state that i like to refer to as "duct tape code"
#1051 [05:46] <arensirb> haha
#1052 [05:46] <arensirb> duct tape code?
#1053 [05:46] <AndrewPH> I thought it had like 16 threads per player :1
#1054 [05:46] <arensirb> AndrewPH: eh
#1055 [05:46] <arensirb> :p
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#1058 [05:47] <Kealper> duct tape code is what i consider code that was thrown together just to test to see if something works, and never gets cleaned up or reworked....and gets so intertwined with other stuff that it totally screws stuff up when you try to fix it
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#1060 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> That's kinda called spaghetti code at that point
#1061 [05:48] <TheBix> well I just realised
#1062 [05:48] <worqy> I know this is a weird question, but I have watched videos about "Minecraft Computers/CPU 's", but I can't understand what they do
#1063 [05:48] <Kealper> yeah, i guess duct tape code would be like spaghetti code, but more ghetto
#1064 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> worqy - If you don't know, you wouldn't understand
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#1066 [05:48] <TheBix> worqy: they are microprocessors, except without the micro
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#1068 [05:48] <LRWerewolf> worqy: They're computers built using redstone in game.
#1069 [05:48] <Kealper> spacghetto code >.>
#1070 [05:48] <Kealper> spaghetto*
#1071 [05:49] <Kealper> macroprocessors
#1072 [05:49] <TheBix> Actually I just realised that hooking createthread won't actually tell me if minecraft is multithreaded
#1073 [05:49] <TheBix> since its in java...
#1074 [05:49] <worqy> Yeah, I understand so much, and that they use binary number system
#1075 [05:49] <TheBix> Then what don't you understand?
#1076 [05:50] <worqy> what can you do with them?
#1077 [05:50] <worqy> I see someone enter 00110011, so?
#1078 [05:50] <TheBix> worqy: compute stuff
#1079 [05:50] <LRWerewolf> worqy: Depending on how general purpose they are/are not, they may be used to do a large number of tasks, albeit at the cost of being massive expenditures of time to create and time to program and time to process per timestep. Typically, they're done strictly as a proof-of-concept; there's no reason I can think of in MC to use a general purpose full-fledged turing complete computer vs a specific-purpose seq
#1080 [05:50] <LRWerewolf> uential or feedback logical circuit.
#1081 [05:50] <TheBix> They have no actual purpose. Aside from the fact that its a fully functional computer... IN MINECRAFT
#1082 [05:51] <Kealper> javaw.exe has 38 threads when minecraft is open and in a serverd
#1083 [05:51] <Kealper> server*
#1084 [05:51] <Kealper> not sure how many of those are the VM or not....
#1085 [05:51] <TheBix> Thats no proof its multithreaded tho
#1086 [05:51] <TheBix> yeah
#1087 [05:51] <AndrewPH> minecraftlogs.com is mostly spaghetti code
#1088 [05:51] <worqy> okey, so they can do basic calculations with binary numbers..
#1089 [05:51] <AndrewPH> :p
#1090 [05:51] <Kealper> AndrewPH: lol
#1091 [05:51] <AndrewPH> although it doesn't really matter
#1092 [05:51] <Kealper> a nice frontend to spaghetti code though :o
#1093 [05:52] <AndrewPH> yeah it's pretty damn sexy if I do say so myself
#1094 [05:52] <AndrewPH> and I do.
#1095 [05:52] <Kealper> as do i
#1096 [05:52] <LRWerewolf> worqy: Essentially, given infinite resources, you could create a computer in Minecraft that was i386 or x86_64 compatible... but... no one has a system that powerful.
#1097 [05:52] <Kealper> my minecrafthelp logs page just can't compare :o
#1098 [05:52] <AndrewPH> http://www.minecraftlogs.com/kicks/
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#1100 [05:52] <TheBix> LRWerewolf: not in the current implementation
#1101 [05:52] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Given infinite resources -- not necessarily the current implementation (which limits working space)
#1102 [05:53] <TheBix> Also IA_32 and x86_64 have a lot of features not needed
#1103 [05:53] <TheBix> like paging
#1104 [05:53] <worqy> And I see that the process is VERY slow. But with somekind of display, and a 8-bit machine, could it be possible to play games?
#1105 [05:53] <TheBix> well you could implement that if you wanted to.
#1106 [05:53] <Kealper> don't you mean IA64 or whatever?
#1107 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> worqy - Yes, you can program minecraft inside minecraft. So you can play minecraft in minecraft while you play minec4raft
#1108 [05:54] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Unless you're talking the non-deterministic features found in some associated chips such as the TPM (which implements a thermal noise true random number generator)
#1109 [05:54] <TheBix> Kealper: IA_32 is 32bit x86
#1110 [05:54] <TheBix> IA64 was Itanium
#1111 [05:54] <Kealper> isn't that just x86 though?
#1112 [05:54] <TheBix> x86 refers to the whole family
#1113 [05:54] <Kealper> i was unaware it was also called IA_32....stupid Intel
#1114 [05:54] <TheBix> all of em
#1115 [05:55] <TheBix> IA_32 stands for intel architecture
#1116 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> worqy - It's more of the geek aspect of it. Do you know what a register is? Do you know how it's set up? Do you know what a CPU instruction set is?
#1117 [05:55] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: If I wanted to run Windows 7 in Minecraft, I'd need paging. Again, moot point -- we don't have anywhere NEAR those resources... but... if we had those resources (near-infinite working space and a machine with enough RAM and CPU to make it time-step feasible) you could.
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#1119 [05:55] <Kealper> but Intel made x86 ._.
#1120 [05:55] * Kealper sighs at Intel
#1120 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how it a CPU communicates instructions to data sets it receives?
#1121 [05:55] <arensirb> LRWerewolf: Run win7 IN minecraft?
#1122 [05:55] <arensirb> you mean the other way around?
#1123 [05:55] <worqy> One last question. Is one redstone line, one bit?
#1124 [05:55] <TheBix> Kealper: BUT they didn't make x86_64 AKA AMD 64
#1125 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1126 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> A latch, or a flip-flop is 1 bit storage
#1127 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> A wire is nothing
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#1129 [05:56] <TheBix> Kealper: fun fact, all common 64 bit intel chips use AMD's architecture
#1130 [05:56] <arensirb> a wire is wire :P
#1131 [05:56] <Kealper> TheBix: yeah, x86_64 is just an addition that AMD made
#1132 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> It's like saying, I can store data inside the wire that my headphones are attached with
#1133 [05:56] <worqy> I have made a system, that uses two T Flip Flops, so it the output 2 bits then?
#1134 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> The storage, is 2 bits.
#1135 [05:56] <TheBix> Kealper: Usually when I say that all the script kiddies think I am retarded and go OMG U SAYING AMD MAKES INTEL OMG LIES!
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#1137 [05:56] <LRWerewolf> GreyVulpine, Actually -- you can use a wire to store data, it's called delay-line memory.
#1138 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> LRWerewolf - In terms of a redstone wire?
#1139 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> I'm quite aware of what delay-line memory is
#1140 [05:57] <LRWerewolf> GreyVulpine, Redstone wire, no. But you can use repeaters to do it.
#1141 [05:57] <Kealper> TheBix: contrary to popular belief...i'm actually smarter than the average bear at computer stuff ._.
#1142 [05:57] <TheBix> Kealper: :P
#1143 [05:58] <TheBix> I just worked out how many tricks CPUs have up their sleeves this week
#1144 [05:58] <TheBix> and why they have billions of transistors
#1145 [05:58] <TheBix> when its not actually needed to implement the instruction set
#1146 [05:58] <Kealper> and why CISC is so much slower than RISC
#1147 [05:58] <TheBix> which you could do with a few thousand
#1148 [05:59] <TheBix> Kealper: ya but RISC takes up more memory
#1149 [05:59] <Kealper> CISC CPUs are like 90% leftover fat that is written very poorly
#1150 [05:59] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: I work with a guy who worked as a chip designer for Intel. hooooooly crap the things he's shown me (and that's not including the stuff he CAN'T show me due to trade-secret/NDA/etc)
#1151 [05:59] <Kealper> RISC tend to be much faster since their instructions are specialized and written efficently
#1152 [05:59] <TheBix> LRWerewolf: like what?
#1153 [06:00] <Kealper> which is why i'd kill to have one of those dual core 1ghz RISC tablets lol
#1154 [06:00] <TheBix> OoOE is pretty insane. and thats just standard these days.
#1155 [06:00] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: The cross wiring the use to solve race conditions with some of the gates... he was showing me one schematic that processes five different signals simultaneously that blew my mind away.
#1156 [06:00] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Amongst other things.
#1157 [06:01] <TheBix> seriously OoOE is pretty insane tho. It gets it wrong and the whole computer could fuck up. it gets it right and you can get massive performance increases
#1158 [06:01] <TheBix> and it NEVER gets it wrong.
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#1161 [06:02] <Sooi11> Is minecraft down?
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#1163 [06:02] <TheBix> ya
#1164 [06:02] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Oh, it gets it wrong, it just knows how to throw away its guesses if it guessed wrong. Still... the last whitepaper I saw on it was a 97% or higher correct guess rate.
#1165 [06:02] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Which is massively impressive even still.
#1166 [06:02] <Kealper> MEH...lol
#1167 [06:03] <LittleKrieger> correct me if im wrong but every weekend the server is down ....
#1168 [06:03] <TheBix> oh and it also does branch prediction
#1169 [06:03] <LittleKrieger> and the weekend is the only time i can play minecraft
#1170 [06:03] <TheBix> which is also fucked.
#1171 [06:03] <LRWerewolf> LittleKrieger: Don't we wish it was only the weekend....
#1172 [06:03] <Kealper> LittleKrieger: that's what happens when you have 1.5 million players :/
#1173 [06:03] <LittleKrieger> but he got much 15million € so couldn´t he buy a super good server?
#1174 [06:04] <TheBix> Sounds to me linke you're thinking of branch prediction though LRWerewolf
#1175 [06:04] <Kealper> if it were that simple, it would have been done already LittleKrieger :/
#1176 [06:04] <TheBix> which I guess, is kind of the same thing
#1177 [06:05] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: No, OoOE, the branch prediction's pretty darn amazing too. Freaking LOVE some of the stuff that came out of Intel before they decided to start copying stuff from AMD. I wish you could take the brightest minds from both and found a third company but then you'd get nailed to the wall for monopoly wihtin five years. Both teams have some great ideas...
#1178 [06:05] <TheBix> Fun Fact IA_32 (and probs x86_64) have special instruction prefixes which tell the CPU if a branch is likely to be taken or not.
#1179 [06:06] * Kealper is an admitted AMD fanboy
#1179 [06:06] <Kealper> </random>
#1180 [06:06] <TheBix> I like Intel but thats only cuz I've only read their manuals.
#1181 [06:07] <TheBix> while I was making my PONG OS!
#1182 [06:07] <Kealper> pong os? lol
#1183 [06:07] <TheBix> Thats right I have an OS, which just puts pong on the screen :P
#1184 [06:07] <Kealper> lol
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#1186 [06:07] <TheBix> bootable and everything, entirely written in ASM
#1187 [06:07] <TheBix> Complete with floating point!
#1188 [06:07] <Kealper> massochist :/
#1189 [06:08] <Kealper> masochist*
#1190 [06:08] <TheBix> nah. asm is easy.
#1191 [06:08] <TheBix> and required
#1192 [06:08] <Kealper> meh
#1193 [06:08] <LRWerewolf> Kealper: Naw, ASM ain't THAT bad. It's like any other language really... if you use it often, it's easy. If you've never read it before and have a background in algorithms or programming, you'll likely be able to follow it, if you have no background at all, it's utter greek.
#1194 [06:09] <TheBix> Yeah. its not that much harder than C.
#1195 [06:09] <TheBix> You just write more.
#1196 [06:09] <Kealper> i've done a bit of baby work in it, but i've never actually used it hard-core like...it's actually not really that hard, just loads of typing lol
#1197 [06:09] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Gotta love the ASM keyword in C that lets you code directly in ASM. I use that little trick with my neural network code when I don't trust the compiler's optimization routines. Can usually squeeze a few extra clock cycle savings out of it if I pick and choose carefully where to use it.
#1198 [06:10] <LRWerewolf> Kealper: Macros help.
#1199 [06:10] <Kealper> it would be fun to make my own bootloader and simple OS though, i will admit
#1200 [06:10] <TheBix> LRWerewolf: but unfortunately that doesn't let you just assemble straight data
#1201 [06:10] <TheBix> Kealper: its not that hard once you get your head around.
#1202 [06:10] <TheBix> but its incredibly hard first go :P
#1203 [06:11] <TheBix> Fun fact. The CPU starts up in 16 bit mode and you gotta somehow get it into 32 bit mode.
#1204 [06:11] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Naw, I still have to properly manage the stack and all that. Still, used carefully, it helps. When you're running a hundred thousand neurons, even a savings of a few clock cycles per function run can represent a substatial difference in execution speed.
#1205 [06:11] <TheBix> by feeding it a lot of data and tables
#1206 [06:12] <TheBix> LRWerewolf: I also don't like the way it still puts code infront of and after it
#1207 [06:12] <Kealper> yeah, i was reading up on making an ASM bootloader...how low level that stuff is...is just crazy compared to what i normally do lol
#1208 [06:12] <TheBix> Kealper: its not that bad. You just make all your tables using DB and then give it a pointer
#1209 [06:13] <TheBix> LRWerewolf: as in, you can't just make a straight asm function
#1210 [06:13] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: *nods* The alternative, in my specific case, is writing the whole NN code in ASM. Tempting, for the sheer precision of optimization I could get. Never the less... I'm not THAT much a masochist. :P
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#1212 [06:13] <TheBix> make a DLL written entirely in asm containing all your high speed functions
#1213 [06:13] <Kealper> it'd definately be fast code though lol
#1214 [06:14] <TheBix> there is one downside though, you have that extra jmp between the call and the actual dll :P
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#1216 [06:14] <TheBix> </sarcasm>
#1217 [06:14] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: You're not the first person to make that recommendation. One of these days I'll try it and see what the effect is.
#1218 [06:15] <TheBix> what does ur program do, LRWerewolf ?
#1219 [06:15] <Kealper> meh...it's late..i'm going to bed
#1220 [06:15] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Though you should have seen the look on my independant study professor's face when she found out I'd done an NN, arguably one of the most text-book object-oriented systems out there, without a single class. *chuckles
#1221 [06:15] * Kealper detaches screen
#1221 [06:16] <TheBix> lol. you did implement object oriented stuff right?
#1222 [06:16] <TheBix> through you're own system?
#1223 [06:16] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Nothing useful. Yet. Probably never. It's research for research's sake. Though the economic modelling and stock modelling ones are frighteningly effective.
#1224 [06:16] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Why would I? OO is evil.
#1225 [06:16] <TheBix> I'm using C# to make a custom webserver atm
#1226 [06:16] <LittleKrieger> i heard some ppl hacked their minecraft launcher so they can play even when servers are down
#1227 [06:16] <TheBix> I guess I am the devil
#1228 [06:18] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: *g* Now granted, one could argue that having STRUCTS and a ton of functions that either accept those STRUCTS as inputs, process those STRUCTS, or output those STRUCTS in a *.h file is a form of object orientation...
#1229 [06:18] <TheBix> LRWerewolf: The one advantage my webserver has over something like apache, is that all the code for dynamic resource generation is compiled and in its own DLL as opposed to interpreted from something slow like PHP
#1230 [06:19] <TheBix> and its written in C#, so NO BUFFER OVERFLOWS EVER.
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#1232 [06:19] <Kealper> <3 managed code
#1233 [06:19] <Kealper> and damnit i suck at going afk
#1234 [06:19] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: Agreed. Though generally speaking if I'm looking at a web server, I'm not quite the efficiency freak I am when doing the neural network stuff.
#1235 [06:19] <Solei> Sadness at login. I just got my huge project up to the production phase. :(
#1236 [06:20] * Kealper kills this attached screen with a ^a+DD
#1236 [06:20] <TheBix> LRWerewolf: Yeah I just did it because I wanted to host something and I CBF downloading apache or something and learning PHP. So I made a C# app to do it
#1237 [06:20] <Solei> Please come back Minecraft. Save me from mid-term papers. Mah brains needs a break!
#1238 [06:20] <TheBix> and then it kinda turned into its own webserver from there.
#1239 [06:21] <LRWerewolf> TheBix: If you use C, PHP should come fairly easy... no includes, loosely typed, prepend $ to your variable names. Otherwise, very C-like.
#1240 [06:21] <TheBix> (BTW it doesn't use that crappy HTTP protocol API that microsoft has, it uses my own implementation using the good ol windows sockets)
#1241 [06:21] <Solei> Is there a way to log directly into a private server without logging into minecraft.net first?
#1242 [06:22] <LRWerewolf> Solei: Turn off Verify but then you log in as Player, in my experience.
#1243 [06:22] <TheBix> Or you could use a packet editor thing to make you log in with an actual name.
#1244 [06:22] <Solei> Hmm. Will mess around with that.
#1245 [06:23] <Solei> Lol. A bit beyond my abilities, sadly.
#1246 [06:23] <TheBix> thats another thing I need to program
#1247 [06:23] <TheBix> a packet editor
#1248 [06:23] <TheBix> a realtime one with some actual features.
#1249 [06:26] <arensirb> Is he still whining over shit?
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#1251 [06:27] <TheBix> piss off.
#1252 [06:27] <Solei> Hmm.... Verification is off on the server, but I get blackscreen after it sits at the login screen for that server for a bit. :/
#1253 [06:27] <TheBix> bye guys
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#1255 [06:32] <lAte> anybody have idea when mc will be back online?
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#1257 [06:34] <arensirb> lAte: Sometime after now
#1258 [06:38] <FastCore> unless notch uses his time machine...
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#1261 [06:46] <AchimL33D> hey
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#1264 [06:51] <rf`> !isdown minecraft.net
#1265 [06:51] <GreyBot> rf`: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1266 [06:53] <arensirb> rf`: Launcher login is DOWN!
#1267 [06:53] <arensirb> (my script)
#1268 [06:53] <arensirb> :(
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#1270 [06:57] <StClaus> Hello
#1271 [06:58] <arensirb> Hewllo
#1272 [06:58] <arensirb> -w
#1273 [06:58] <StClaus> Sorry, but the login system for Minecraft is currently down! We are unsure when Minecraft logins will work properly again, so please just sit tight and hope it is sooner rather than later!
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#1275 [06:59] <StClaus> Why can my friends conect to Minecraft?
#1276 [06:59] <StClaus> but i canot do this :(
#1277 [06:59] <ninjedd> anyone else having problems connecting to minecraft?
#1278 [06:59] <StClaus> No, 3 Friends are in Minecraft
#1279 [07:00] <ninjedd> i cant login
#1280 [07:00] <ninjedd> it keeps saying cant connect to minecraft.net
#1281 [07:00] <StClaus> My friends can conect without Problem.
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#1285 [07:06] <Jbouille> it happens too often
#1286 [07:07] <mib_aqqt23> i wanna play! :(
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#1288 [07:09] <arensirb> hehe
#1289 [07:09] <arensirb> we all do
#1290 [07:09] <mib_aqqt23> hehe
#1291 [07:09] <arensirb> Server login is up!
#1292 [07:09] <arensirb> Launcher login is DOWN!
#1293 [07:09] <arensirb> :(:(
#1294 [07:10] <Shadow386> lol owned
#1295 [07:10] <arensirb> *facepalm* Someone made the bot a LITTLE sensitive?
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#1297 [07:10] <Shadow386> its 3 messages in a few seconds
#1298 [07:10] <arensirb> yeah? and?
#1299 [07:10] <Shadow386> its always been like that and dislikes spammers
#1300 [07:10] <arensirb> Well cant say that is spamming.
#1301 [07:10] <Shadow386> it is if you send lots of useless messages at once
#1302 [07:10] <arensirb> no
#1303 [07:10] <Shadow386> we all know it goes down and up a lot, its minecraft
#1304 [07:10] <arensirb> thats flodding
#1305 [07:10] <arensirb> flooding
#1306 [07:11] <Shadow386> then you're flooding
#1307 [07:11] <arensirb> no
#1308 [07:11] <Shadow386> same difference
#1309 [07:11] <lAte> what was cahnnel for random chatter
#1310 [07:11] <arensirb> #random ? :P
#1311 [07:11] <Shadow386> #mcchatter i think
#1312 [07:11] <mib_37ryzn> a friend of me can connect to minecraft :x
#1313 [07:11] <arensirb> mib_37ryzn: Maybe hes using the old launcher
#1314 [07:11] <Shadow386> prob
#1315 [07:12] <Shadow386> either way, you dont need to post every time its down
#1316 [07:12] <Shadow386> its quite annoying
#1317 [07:12] <arensirb> Shadow386: i didnt
#1318 [07:12] <Shadow386> you did
#1319 [07:12] <arensirb> But since you said it
#1320 [07:12] <Shadow386> or you wouldnt have gotten temp banned
#1321 [07:12] <arensirb> *makes script for irssi that posts every time it goes up or down*
#1322 [07:12] <arensirb> LOL?
#1323 [07:13] <arensirb> a
#1324 [07:13] <arensirb> b
#1325 [07:13] <arensirb> c
#1326 [07:13] <Shadow386> i lol once more
#1327 [07:13] <arensirb> Did that have anything to do with me posting up/down ? NO.
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#1329 [07:13] <ConMan8> :/
#1330 [07:13] <Shadow386> no, it went to the fact that you are flooding the channel with pointless chatter
#1331 [07:13] <arensirb> Fortunately I had the old launcher @ teamspeak :D
#1332 [07:14] <arensirb> ahh login worked :D
#1333 [07:14] <ConMan8> If you post three or so lines within a certain time range AuBot bans you for ten seconds
#1334 [07:14] <Shadow386> thought it was 5
#1335 [07:14] <arensirb> hold on, il try 1 line per second :3
#1336 [07:14] <arensirb> a
#1337 [07:14] <arensirb> b
#1338 [07:14] <arensirb> c
#1339 [07:14] <arensirb> (Ok, Ive had enough "fun" now)
#1340 [07:14] <arensirb> I bet its 3 lines in 2 seconds
#1341 [07:15] <ConMan8> :rolleyes:
#1342 [07:15] <Shadow386> kid, what time is it where you are?
#1343 [07:15] <arensirb> Kid?
#1344 [07:15] <arensirb> Im 24.
#1345 [07:15] <arensirb> Prob older than you.
#1346 [07:15] <Shadow386> dont act like it
#1347 [07:15] <ConMan8> Shadow386: Is that necessary?
#1348 [07:15] <arensirb> This isnt IRL
#1349 [07:15] <ConMan8> :3
#1350 [07:15] <Shadow386> Yep
#1351 [07:15] <arensirb> I can act how the frack I want
#1352 [07:15] <Shadow386> act how you want then
#1353 [07:16] <arensirb> I dont give a shit about what people think.. :) They dont know me
#1354 [07:16] <Shadow386> or do they care
#1355 [07:16] <arensirb> Prob not
#1356 [07:16] <Shadow386> I, for one, do not.
#1357 [07:16] <arensirb> Good.
#1358 [07:16] <arensirb> Now! Have fun, i need to clean up some more here :)
#1359 [07:17] <Shadow386> So good day to thee, and hope the immaturity dies with you.
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#1361 [07:18] <arensirb> Shadow386: :P
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#1370 [07:31] <Showdow> hi
#1371 [07:31] <Showdow> i need some help
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#1374 [07:34] <RainingNoob> hell
#1375 [07:34] <RainingNoob> hello
#1376 [07:34] <Maariu5_> Quick question, Minecraft.net Login Server down?
#1377 [07:34] <Showdow> yeah
#1378 [07:34] <RainingNoob> seems like it is
#1379 [07:34] <RainingNoob> cant login :(
#1380 [07:34] <Showdow> me too
#1381 [07:34] <Showdow> i hate this ^^
#1382 [07:34] <RainingNoob> e 2
#1383 [07:34] <RainingNoob> me
#1384 [07:34] <Maariu5_> =/
#1385 [07:35] <Showdow> i think it'll come an update ?
#1386 [07:35] <RainingNoob> some friends can login...
#1387 [07:35] <Showdow> oh
#1388 [07:35] <arensirb> Old launcher works :)
#1389 [07:35] <Showdow> >.<
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#1391 [07:35] <RainingNoob> arensirb where to get it?
#1392 [07:35] <arensirb> no idea :P
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#1395 [07:35] <RainingNoob> u have it?
#1396 [07:35] <Showdow> google =D
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#1398 [07:35] <arensirb> u is a letter, not a word.
#1399 [07:35] <arensirb> :)
#1400 [07:36] <RainingNoob> you have it?
#1401 [07:36] <arensirb> And yes, I have it.
#1402 [07:36] <RainingNoob> :D
#1403 [07:36] <RainingNoob> you can upload pls?
#1404 [07:36] <RainingNoob> please*
#1405 [07:36] <arensirb> No. :p
#1406 [07:36] <Showdow> xD
#1407 [07:36] <RainingNoob> Why not? :(
#1408 [07:36] <Lewis> damm the server are down =(
#1409 [07:36] <arensirb> Kealper: What are the rules here?
#1410 [07:36] <arensirb> about distributing the old launcher?
#1411 [07:36] <Morrolan> Just google for it, RainingNoob
#1412 [07:36] <arensirb> .jar only, not local files
#1413 [07:36] <arensirb> Or do as Morrolan sayus
#1414 [07:37] <arensirb> -u
#1415 [07:37] <Showdow> i hate this fucking new launcher
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#1417 [07:38] <Morrolan> Well, it would be kinda neat if the secure authentication wouldn't be overloaded all the time. :/
#1418 [07:38] <RainingNoob> then i go play ssp..:(
#1419 [07:39] <Morrolan> Well, it's your choice. ;
#1420 [07:39] <Morrolan> ;)*
#1421 [07:40] <AG_Scott> wtf do people use tablets for?
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#1423 [07:40] <AG_Scott> wouldn't a touch screen netbook be better?
#1424 [07:40] <AchimL33D> when come the loginserver on?
#1425 [07:40] <Morrolan> Achim: We don't know.
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#1428 [07:43] <techno21> hey what happened to the login system?
#1429 [07:43] <Showdow> down
#1430 [07:44] <Showdow> only the old launcher works
#1431 [07:44] <techno21> that explains why it cant establish a connection, any idea what the actual problem is?
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#1434 [07:44] <Crush3r> hi
#1435 [07:44] <techno21> old launcher wont work for me i'm not running windows.
#1436 [07:44] <Morrolan> Techno: Too many connections to the DB
#1437 [07:44] <ALT3RNAT1V3> won't let me online?
#1438 [07:45] <Crush3r> who's playing minecraft?
#1439 [07:45] <Morrolan> Alternative: Authentication is down.
#1440 [07:45] <ALT3RNAT1V3> when will it be back up?
#1441 [07:45] <techno21> wow. never heard of a game login system going down due to too many players.
#1442 [07:45] <Morrolan> No idea.
#1443 [07:45] <ALT3RNAT1V3> dam....
#1444 [07:45] <techno21> must be more popular than i thought
#1445 [07:45] <techno21> anyway thanks for the info guys
#1446 [07:45] <Morrolan> Techno: Well, the funny thing is that it happens quite often. :/
#1447 [07:45] <techno21> ciao
#1448 [07:45] <Morrolan> Yo're welcome.
#1449 [07:45] <Morrolan> you're*
#1450 [07:46] <Showdow> notch have to buy a new server oO
#1451 [07:46] <Morrolan> Well, the problem isn't that much the server but the database I think. He'll have to hire someone to take care of this I guess.
#1452 [07:48] <Showdow> yeah about million people bought the game thats about 15mill $
#1453 [07:48] <Showdow> i think he have enought the hire one more person
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#1457 [07:50] <Aiero> Hello guys.
#1458 [07:51] <Aiero> It says the login system is down, but I logged on perfectly fine?
#1459 [07:51] <Morrolan> hey
#1460 [07:51] <Aiero> I'm on my friends SMP server and he's having a fit because he can't get on.
#1461 [07:51] <Morrolan> Well, when did you log in?
#1462 [07:51] <Morrolan> Cause right now it is not working.
#1463 [07:52] <Aiero> I logged in like three minutes ago.
#1464 [07:53] <Aiero> How long has the logging system been down?
#1465 [07:53] <Morrolan> I don't know, just noticed it 15 minutes ago or so.
#1466 [07:53] <Morrolan> You must have been quite lucky to get one of the rare free connections to the database I guess.
#1467 [07:54] <Showdow> oh man notch fix the servers -.-
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#1470 [07:55] <Aiero> Hmm.
#1471 [07:55] <Aiero> Oh well, my friend is talking to me via the Server because he owns it, but I feel rather gutted.
#1472 [07:55] <Aiero> I hope it gets fixed soon.
#1473 [07:56] <Xcorpius> me to
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#1476 [07:57] <Aiero> :D
#1477 [07:57] <Aiero> Hi mate :)
#1478 [07:58] <Aiero> Keep trying to log on; you might get lucky
#1479 [07:58] <Xcorpius> lol i heard browser works
#1480 [07:58] <Aiero> I daren't disconnect just in case I can't get on again.
#1481 [07:58] <Aiero> Try it
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#1483 [07:58] <Morrolan> Browser and the old launcher should work, yes.
#1484 [07:59] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
#1485 [07:59] <Aiero> Oh, I was using the old launcher.
#1486 [08:00] <Aiero> I don't use the new one, I prefer the old one.
#1487 [08:00] <Morrolan> Aiero: That explains it. :)
#1488 [08:00] <Aiero> Yeah :)
#1489 [08:00] <Aiero> Oh - does anyone know if Humans+ is compatible with Mo'Creatures? A random question, I know.
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#1497 [08:12] <arensirb> ConMan8: why did you ctcp me? :P
#1498 [08:12] <ConMan8> That was aaggeess ago.
#1499 [08:13] <ConMan8> <+Shadow386> kid, what time is it where you are?
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#1501 [08:15] <arensirb> Aha
#1502 [08:15] <arensirb> :P Didnt check status window before now
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#1505 [08:20] <iiShaun> !isdown
#1506 [08:20] <GreyBot> iiShaun: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#1508 [08:21] <iiShaun> Hey guys
#1509 [08:22] <OODavo> Something appears to be seriously wrong with my domain.
#1510 [08:22] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
#1511 [08:23] <OODavo> AuBot says it's fine, but apparently absolutely nothing else is working. :/
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#1514 [08:27] <Frunten> Is there a possability that this server that is currently down may cause lag on my own MC-server? :)
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#1518 [08:35] <BamnAngel> rawr
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#1520 [08:40] <AchimL33D> hey
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#1522 [08:41] <mang0> !haspaid mega_mang0
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#1526 [08:50] <flyte> login system? is this why my update gets stuck at 9% and then when I choose not to update it gets stuck at the "done loading" screen?
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#1528 [08:52] <Flyte> on the standalone client on linux with the Sun JVM..
#1529 [08:53] <Flyte> can anybody confirm this? I've just bought Minecraft and I'm just trying to play it for the first time...
#1530 [08:55] <Flyte> I've tried deleting my ~/.minecraft directory and launching again from the jar file, but exactly the same thing happens
#1531 [08:55] <mang0> Flyte
#1532 [08:55] <mang0> lol
#1533 [08:55] <mang0> um
#1534 [08:55] <mang0> Minecraft.net is down xD
#1535 [08:55] <mang0> it wont connect atm
#1536 [08:56] <mang0> just keep trying
#1537 [08:56] <Flyte> what's strange is that it gets to 9% on the update and stops saying the connection is reset
#1538 [08:57] <mang0> that would be because it updating like tum ti tum then its like oh shit, minecraft.net is dead i cant carry on
#1539 [08:57] <Flyte> or it gets stuck at the done loading screen for ever.. shouldn't it at least tell me it can't connect to minecraft.net?
#1540 [08:57] <Flyte> ok
#1541 [08:57] <Flyte> well I'm in my girlfriend's car travelling up the M6 and my battery will run out in 1 hour :(
#1542 [08:58] <mang0> :S
#1543 [08:58] <Flyte> then I'll just have to listen to her music and singing :(
#1544 [08:58] <mang0> you have beta1.3 launcher right?
#1545 [08:58] <Flyte> I just downloaded it, so I guess
#1546 [08:59] <mang0> hm
#1547 [08:59] <mang0> so you try to login
#1548 [09:00] <mang0> tell me exatctly what happens
#1549 [09:00] <mang0> you open minecraft
#1550 [09:00] <Flyte> it lets me log in, goes to do updates, gets to 9% of the first package then pauses and eventually says connection reset
#1551 [09:00] <mang0> and you get a startup screen, with the login/pass fields in the bottom right
#1552 [09:00] <mang0> hmm
#1553 [09:00] <mang0> let me try to login
#1554 [09:00] <Flyte> then the next time I launch it it asks if I want to do updates, I say no and it gets stuck at "done loading"
#1555 [09:01] <mang0> wth
#1556 [09:01] <mang0> i can login perfectly
#1557 [09:01] <mang0> mc.net must be up again
#1558 [09:01] <Flyte> let me try again
#1559 [09:02] <Flyte> lwjgl.jar gets stuck at 9%
#1560 [09:02] <Flyte> I don't have to run as root or anything silly like that, do I?
#1561 [09:03] <mang0> no, just run the minecraft.exe
#1562 [09:03] <Flyte> lol
#1563 [09:03] <mang0> try deleting it all
#1564 [09:03] <mang0> and redownloading
#1565 [09:03] <Flyte> done that
#1566 [09:03] <Flyte> I'm on the linux version
#1567 [09:03] <mang0> hm
#1568 [09:03] <mang0> i dont really know linux
#1569 [09:03] <mang0> mac and windows are my area
#1570 [09:03] <Flyte> deleted the ~/.minecraft dir, redownloaded the jar file, launched again
#1571 [09:04] <Flyte> mac should be similar
#1572 [09:04] <mang0> yeah
#1573 [09:04] <Flyte> but you don't see the ugly parts
#1574 [09:04] <mang0> let me just have a look at some stuff for you
#1575 [09:04] <Flyte> (or the good parts.. depends how you look at it!)
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#1577 [09:05] <mang0> just making sure, but your running SUN JVM right?
#1578 [09:05] <Flyte> I reckon something's screwed up with the update process, which cannot be avoided when loading the launcher for the first time
#1579 [09:05] <Flyte> yeah I am
#1580 [09:05] <mang0> Linux / Other: Download Minecraft.jar, an executable jar file. It might work as-is. If you run into out of memory errors, try launching it with java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame Also, please make sure you're running the Sun JVM...
#1581 [09:06] <SkiingPenguins> try playing the online version at minecraft.net, it should do the same thing as the launcher does; downloads the files
#1582 [09:06] <mang0> s'true
#1583 [09:06] <Flyte> yeah, I tried but I don't have the plugin.. I'll have to work out how to do that :)
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#1585 [09:07] <mang0> Urm
#1586 [09:07] <mang0> its Java......
#1587 [09:07] <mang0> or do you mean OpenGL?
#1588 [09:07] <Flyte> yeah.. the java plugin for Chrome
#1589 [09:08] <Flyte> let me try FFox
#1590 [09:08] <Flyte> that would be a more sensible plan of action
#1591 [09:08] <mang0> indeed
#1592 [09:12] <Flyte> 35 minutes left :*(
#1593 [09:13] <SkiingPenguins> Flyte: perhaps invest in a car charger next time you get around to it
#1594 [09:13] <Flyte> ok, getting the browser plugin for java..
#1595 [09:13] <Flyte> heh yeah.. I was tempted to get an inverter
#1596 [09:14] <Flyte> maybe I will for the way back, but you can bet I'll be driving
#1597 [09:15] <mang0> :O
#1598 [09:16] <Flyte> ok, got the done loading screen on the browser version
#1599 [09:16] <Flyte> how long do I leave it before ejecting the netbook out of the window?
#1600 [09:17] <Flyte> ooh, I did the update and it got past the 9%
#1601 [09:17] <Flyte> this looks promising
#1602 [09:17] <Flyte> 25 minutes left.. heh
#1603 [09:18] <Flyte> alriiiiight it worked
#1604 [09:20] <mang0> :DE
#1605 [09:20] <mang0> * :D
#1606 [09:20] <mang0> well done
#1607 [09:20] <Flyte> and it turns out the netbook is too slow to play the game :P
#1608 [09:21] <Flyte> cock it
#1609 [09:22] <Flyte> it may be a graphics driver issue but I don't have time to sort it out.. thanks for your help, I'm going to go back to staring out of the window now.. cya!
#1610 [09:23] <mang0> cya heh
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#1612 [09:24] <elexor> hi
#1613 [09:24] <elexor> I just bought this game
#1614 [09:24] <elexor> to see if it works now
#1615 [09:24] <elexor> and it doesn't, horrible lag and unplayable, even with the worst settings
#1616 [09:24] <Morrolan> Elexor: Singleplayer or multiplayer?
#1617 [09:25] <elexor> p4 2.8gHz / 3GB asymmetric ddr ~577
#1618 [09:25] <elexor> both
#1619 [09:25] <elexor> P5KC
#1620 [09:25] <Morrolan> Updated your drivers and Java?
#1621 [09:25] <[z]> Graphics card?
#1622 [09:25] <elexor> just installed newest opera and have re-installed java etc.
#1623 [09:25] <elexor> no.
#1624 [09:25] <elexor> I'm a programmer irl so I need more "in depth" answers
#1625 [09:25] <elexor> I'm thinking about java malfunctioning
#1626 [09:26] <elexor> or win7
#1627 [09:26] <elexor> 7900 gs
#1628 [09:26] <Morrolan> Elexor: It doesn't matter if you're a programmer or a plumber. Everyone makes the same mistakes. ;
#1629 [09:26] <elexor> no
#1630 [09:26] <[z]> Does it get better if you decrease the render distance?
#1631 [09:26] <elexor> not much
#1632 [09:27] <elexor> Morrolan: my point: I'm looking for more detailed answers, I'm pretty sure I've tried everything suggested
#1633 [09:27] <[z]> Are you running it in the browser or stand alone?
#1634 [09:28] <elexor> tested both, same with both
#1635 [09:28] <elexor> same problem
#1636 [09:28] <[z]> Hmm
#1637 [09:28] <elexor> now trying the browser version with latest opera
#1638 [09:28] <elexor> just installed it
#1639 [09:28] <elexor> and no, my computer isn't shitty or old drivers or malware
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#1641 [09:28] <elexor> other games work nicely :)
#1642 [09:28] <elexor> and things I need to do
#1643 [09:28] <elexor> and my connection is 100/5
#1644 [09:28] <elexor> enough upload methinks
#1645 [09:29] <[z]> Network won't affect single player...
#1646 [09:29] <elexor> I know
#1647 [09:29] <elexor> but I said it
#1648 [09:29] <elexor> so nobody will ask if I got shitty connection
#1649 [09:29] <elexor> but to say, I'm disapointed, I though the game would work if I buy it
#1650 [09:29] <elexor> well I'll check the forums
#1651 [09:30] <Morrolan> If you're looking for a refund you may send a mail to payment@mojang.com
#1652 [09:30] <elexor> no way
#1653 [09:30] <elexor> I like supporting
#1654 [09:30] <elexor> and this game is awesome anyways
#1655 [09:30] <Morrolan> It certainly is.
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#1658 [09:32] <elexor> what's the email for mojang about the game, not refunding?
#1659 [09:32] <Morrolan> For issues with the game? Don't think they have one for that, you could try your luck at their getsatisfaction.
#1660 [09:32] <elexor> it's notch@mojang.com
#1661 [09:33] <Morrolan> Well, that's notch's mail, I guess he's getting a lot of mails there, so it won't be the best email to write to.
#1662 [09:33] <elexor> I think it'll be
#1663 [09:33] <elexor> :)
#1664 [09:33] <Morrolan> Well, try your luck then.
#1665 [09:34] * SkiingPenguins watches as another email is added to the pile of thousands
#1665 [09:34] <Jay-f> hi ... can someone help me with a problem in minecraft? My savegame/world is still in the minecraft folder but my spawn is gone. the buildings etc are still there i saw it with mcedit but i can't move the spawnpoint :/
#1666 [09:35] <Morrolan> Jay-f with MCEdit you can move your Spawnpoint as well.
#1667 [09:35] <Jay-f> yeah i know ... but when i move ingame it is the same as before
#1668 [09:37] <Jay-f> does anybody know an answer for my problem?
#1669 [09:37] <SkiingPenguins> are you saving the map after you change the spawn?
#1670 [09:38] <Jay-f> yes :)
#1671 [09:38] <Morrolan> Is Minecraft closed while editing the map?
#1672 [09:38] <Jay-f> yes
#1673 [09:38] <Morrolan> Hmm. :/
#1674 [09:38] <Morrolan> So you're moving the spawn in MCEdit, but after you died ingame you still spawn at the old spawn. Never seen that before. :/
#1675 [09:39] <Jay-f> yes thats it... i didn't heard it before too
#1676 [09:39] <Morrolan> Did you try to move the spawnpoint with another application?
#1677 [09:39] <Jay-f> no ...
#1678 [09:39] <Morrolan> So we could see if it's related to MCEdit or your save.
#1679 [09:40] <Jay-f> okay... do you no another programm?
#1680 [09:40] <Jay-f> *knwo xD
#1681 [09:40] <Jay-f> knwo
#1682 [09:40] <Jay-f> lol wtf know
#1683 [09:42] <elexor> okay so javaw.exe cpu usage goes up to 100%
#1684 [09:43] <Morrolan> The only one I know of right now is NBTEdit
#1685 [09:43] <Morrolan> Jay-f: Nvm, found a better one:
#1686 [09:43] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=465652#p465652
#1687 [09:43] <Jay-f> okay..
#1688 [09:43] <Jay-f> thx
#1689 [09:43] <elexor> need a fix for that
#1690 [09:43] <Morrolan> You're welcome. Tell me if it worked. :)
#1691 [09:43] <elexor> changing priority doesn't do any good
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#1693 [09:44] <Morrolan> Elexor: No idea, might be something Mojang needs to fix.
#1694 [09:44] <elexor> yeah
#1695 [09:44] <Morrolan> After some hours of playing my CPU usage is goin through the roof as well, but a restart always helps. Never have it right after starting Minecraft though.
#1696 [09:45] <elexor> like I said, the usual answers doesnt work
#1697 [09:45] <Morrolan> going*
#1698 [09:45] <elexor> I'm not full of my self or egoistic, I meditate irl, I said I'm ap rogrammer so you know I have tried "everything" :)
#1699 [09:45] <elexor> and you can check my vhost to see I'm not first time in irc.. but I mailed notch
#1700 [09:45] <elexor> it could be sonmething with nvidia drivers
#1701 [09:46] <elexor> hope to get it to work :P
#1702 [09:46] <elexor> good game
#1703 [09:46] <Morrolan> Let's hope it'll get fixed then. (Sooner or later ^^)
#1704 [09:47] <elexor> yeah !
#1705 [09:48] <Morrolan> From what I've seen so far Notch doesn't really like fixing bugs though. (Actually, who does)
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#1707 [09:48] <elexor> good point
#1708 [09:48] <elexor> turning bugs to features is more fun
#1709 [09:52] <mang0> Guys
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#1711 [09:53] <mang0> i want to make some minecraft art
#1712 [09:53] <mang0> like
#1713 [09:53] <mang0> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Dither2.jpg
#1714 [09:53] <mang0> not like that
#1715 [09:53] <mang0> but that sorta thing
#1716 [09:53] <mang0> anytips?
#1717 [09:53] <SkiingPenguins> mang0: like pixel art?
#1718 [09:53] <mang0> yes
#1719 [09:54] <SkiingPenguins> use wool and dyes and you should be able to do lots of colors
#1720 [09:54] <Morrolan> mag0: Get a motif from a game/book/film/person you like.
#1721 [09:54] <mang0> got one
#1722 [09:54] <SkiingPenguins> I LEARNED THAT WORD IN ENGLISH!
#1723 [09:55] <mang0> skiingpenguins
#1724 [09:55] <mang0> im doing this in classic
#1725 [09:55] <mang0> lol
#1726 [09:55] <elexor> yeah classic is cool for doing that
#1727 [09:55] <SkiingPenguins> oh then it should be easier
#1728 [09:55] <elexor> I like doing nes pixel gfx with mspaint zoom
#1729 [09:55] <SkiingPenguins> you gots all your blocks right there :P
#1730 [09:55] <Morrolan> SkiingPenguins: The difference between motive and motif?
#1731 [09:56] <SkiingPenguins> Morrolan: i had those for vocab words, motif is recurring idea, motive is why you do something
#1732 [09:56] <Morrolan> Yeah, wanted to ask if you meant this with "I LEARNED THAT WORD IN ENGLISH!"
#1733 [09:56] <mang0> so morrolan
#1734 [09:56] <SkiingPenguins> :P
#1735 [09:56] <mang0> i have a pic of somones avatar
#1736 [09:56] <mang0> taht i want to make
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#1738 [09:56] <mang0> now?
#1739 [09:57] <mang0> xD
#1740 [09:57] <Morrolan> Mang0: Open it in a editing programm (paint works just as well as PS or Gimp) and zoom in.
#1741 [09:57] <Morrolan> You might need to resisze it first though.
#1742 [09:57] <Morrolan> resize*
#1743 [09:57] <mang0> cant i do it in minecraft though?
#1744 [09:58] <mang0> like actually in game
#1745 [09:58] <mang0> in classic
#1746 [09:58] <Morrolan> Well, sure, you're gonna build it there, not?
#1747 [09:58] <Morrolan> But you need to know which blocks to place where I guess. ;)
#1748 [09:58] <Morrolan> Which is why it's easier if you zoom in until you see the pixels.
#1749 [09:58] <mang0> OH
#1750 [09:58] <mang0> so i zoom in on the pic
#1751 [09:58] <mang0> till i see the pixels
#1752 [09:58] <Morrolan> Yes. :)
#1753 [09:59] <mang0> then i just follow
#1754 [09:59] <mang0> EPIC
#1755 [09:59] <Morrolan> Exactly.
#1756 [10:00] <mang0> sweet
#1757 [10:02] <mang0> i dont have enough blues ;(
#1758 [10:03] <mang0> i'll use the same blue for everything its okay
#1759 [10:03] <Morrolan> Sure, that shouldn't be a problem.
#1760 [10:04] <mang0> Ill show you when im done :)
#1761 [10:04] <Morrolan> Ok. :)
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#1763 [10:09] <Beurck> Hello
#1764 [10:11] <Beurck> I'm new on mine craft and i can't install the game, i have an error message who say: "Could not crate the virtual java machine" I try to download the new java but nothin change can you help me ?
#1765 [10:12] <Beurck> I'm french sorry for my very bad english...
#1766 [10:12] <mang0> Hmm
#1767 [10:13] <mang0> Have you checked your graphics card drivers are upto date?
#1768 [10:14] <Beurck> no I will try this i come later if it's don't work thx!
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#1770 [10:21] <cc2k> i need some help with redstone, i made a lever and a circuit to a redstonetorch, circuit works(with a repeater) but the toch keeps set on on
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#1773 [10:22] <Morrolan> If you want to disable the torch you need to place it on the side of a block.
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#1775 [10:22] <Morrolan> Side view: ___x/
#1776 [10:22] <Morrolan> ___ is redstone
#1777 [10:22] <Morrolan> x a block
#1778 [10:22] <Morrolan> and / the torch
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#1780 [10:22] <Morrolan> As soon as the redstone gets powered the redstone torch will go out.
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#1782 [10:23] <cc2k> my torch is on top to switch a track
#1783 [10:23] <cc2k> and my circuit is beneath it and connectec to the torch
#1784 [10:23] <tAurus> Hey, are the minecraft textures under copyright? Can I use them in a web design - yes, I'm doing it for money.
#1785 [10:23] <Morrolan> tAurus: I don't think you can use the commercially.
#1786 [10:24] <tAurus> Damn - thanks though.
#1787 [10:24] <tAurus> Better to find out here instead of through Notc :0
#1788 [10:24] <Morrolan> tAurus: Well, you could ask them for permission, but I doubt that they'll give it for free.
#1789 [10:24] <Morrolan> cc2k: As long as the circuit is connected to the torch directly you can not disable the torch with the circuit.
#1790 [10:25] <cc2k> but i got a lever to do that
#1791 [10:25] <cc2k> but that isnt working..
#1792 [10:25] <Morrolan> I think we might not understand each other. Can you make a screenshot?
#1793 [10:25] <tAurus> http://www.theteetshome.com/joey/mcsite/bgtest.html
#1794 [10:25] <tAurus> So that would probably be copyright infringing?
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#1796 [10:25] <cc2k> i can give u server ip?
#1797 [10:26] <Morrolan> cc2k: Yes, works too.
#1798 [10:26] <Draxus> omg, whats with minecraft lagging ppl out of the server?
#1799 [10:26] <Draxus> its like, more frequent than usual in the new client
#1800 [10:27] <Morrolan> rtAurus: I'm no expert when it comes to such things. If the site will be used commercially I'm quite sure that it is not legally allowed. If it's just for a fansite, I don't know. :/
#1801 [10:27] <tAurus> Morrolan: Alright, thanks for the input.
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#1803 [10:34] <Beurck> well my graphics card drivers are upto date but my graphic card is very old, this is a "S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR"
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#1805 [10:37] <mang0> :S
#1806 [10:38] <mang0> Morrolan: this is taking sooooo long, ive done one row
#1807 [10:38] <mang0> ARGH
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#1809 [10:39] <Morrolan> Mang0: Yea, Pixelart can eat up a lot of time. If you don't mind loosing some detail you could just scale the whole thing down a bit.
#1810 [10:39] <mang0> lol i would but im not doing that now xD
#1811 [10:40] <mang0> im doing Notch's avatar
#1812 [10:41] <mang0> Morrolan: http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/1187185449/notchface_reasonably_small.png
#1813 [10:42] <Morrolan> Oh gosh.
#1814 [10:42] <Morrolan> That's gonna take a while. XD
#1815 [10:42] <mang0> yeppers
#1816 [10:43] <mang0> 64 blocks just for bottom roughly
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#1819 [10:51] <mang0> shit
#1820 [10:51] <mang0> ive got to high
#1821 [10:51] <mang0> i cant go any higher
#1822 [10:51] <mang0> fuuu
#1823 [10:51] <mang0> lol
#1824 [10:51] <Morrolan> XD
#1825 [10:52] <mang0> i shouldve deleted all the blocks going down
#1826 [10:52] <mang0> fuck
#1827 [10:52] <mang0> lol
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#1829 [10:54] <mang0> AND NOW IM BLOODY STUCK IN LAVA AAAARGH
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#1831 [10:55] <mang0> oh
#1832 [10:55] <mang0> R to respawn
#1833 [10:55] <mang0> xD
#1834 [10:55] <mang0> how to i clear a map?
#1835 [10:56] <Burlingk> I have a question? Are there any known DDOS type attacks for MineCraft? For some reason, when I first reboot my server, I can connect to it, but then like after a while, I disconnect and can't get on (times out). When that happens, the only thing I notice in common is that this one guy with a stupid username is logged into the machine.
#1836 [10:56] <Burlingk> (He shows up in the chat list in the console)
#1837 [10:57] <Morrolan> Did you try to talk with him?
#1838 [10:57] <Morrolan> mang0: By hand I guess.
#1839 [10:57] <mang0> there must be a way
#1840 [10:57] <Burlingk> I say something through the console, but don't get a response. ^^
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#1842 [10:57] <Burlingk> Mang0: Are you trying to reset to a new world?
#1843 [10:58] <mang0> sort of
#1844 [10:58] <mang0> i want to do some pixel art
#1845 [10:58] <mang0> i need a clear map
#1846 [10:58] <Burlingk> Ah.
#1847 [10:58] <Burlingk> Well, two options. ^^ Level it by hand, or use a map editor.
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#1849 [10:58] <mang0> map editor :D
#1850 [10:59] <Burlingk> If it is a server, a lot of the server hosts have SOME sort of option to upload a map. ^^
#1851 [10:59] <mang0> nah its not
#1852 [10:59] <mang0> its classic single player
#1853 [10:59] <mandreas> can someone help me with a few questions? :s lol
#1854 [10:59] <Morrolan> Mandreas: Just ask.
#1855 [11:00] <Morrolan> mang0: You could try to download a flatgrass map from somewhere, and load that.
#1856 [11:00] <mandreas> first off, I made my server, but sometimes I get a message "[Warning] The server can not keep up! Did the time change?"
#1857 [11:01] <mang0> Morrolan: true
#1858 [11:01] <mang0> ill try
#1859 [11:01] <Morrolan> Mandreas: This can be caused by many things, for example by the HDD not being able to keep up. You should be able to ignore this message, it doesn't do anything bad.
#1860 [11:01] <Morrolan> It's just a sign that the server might experience some lag.
#1861 [11:01] <mandreas> Okay. here goes another.
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#1863 [11:01] <mandreas> I can't place blocks at my spawn, can I make it so that I can?
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#1865 [11:01] <Morrolan> Yes, you need to make yourself op for that. Type op yournamehere in the console.
#1866 [11:02] <mandreas> Okay that was gonna be my third haha, whats op exactly do?
#1867 [11:02] <Burlingk> Op means operator. It means you have admin type access to the server.
#1868 [11:02] <Morrolan> As an op you can issue server commands like /kick etc. through the ingame chat.
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#1870 [11:02] <Morrolan> So you don't need to have access to the server console.
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#1872 [11:03] <Burlingk> In fact, as long as your name is listed as an op in the config file, you can use /op to op yourself in game.
#1873 [11:03] <wrath> hello
#1874 [11:03] <Morrolan> Hey wrath.
#1875 [11:03] <wrath> i got a problem with minecraft
#1876 [11:04] <wrath> doesnt seem to work
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#1878 [11:04] <Morrolan> Got any more information?
#1879 [11:04] <wrath> niether in browser or downloaded exe file
#1880 [11:04] <wrath> the exe file just closes after the majong logo
#1881 [11:04] <wrath> and the browser stalls
#1882 [11:05] <Morrolan> You do have Java installed on your PC?
#1883 [11:05] <wrath> yes
#1884 [11:05] <wrath> just uinstalled and reinstalled
#1885 [11:05] <Morrolan> Does it spit out any error, or does it just close?
#1886 [11:05] <wrath> just closes
#1887 [11:05] <Morrolan> That's quite strange. Oo
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#1889 [11:06] <wrath> indeed
#1890 [11:06] <mandreas> That happened to me once, I just restarted my laptop and it helped
#1891 [11:07] <wrath> after the majogn logo in the browser it just turns White
#1892 [11:08] <Morrolan> Is there a file called hs_err_pid on your desktop?
#1893 [11:08] <Morrolan> Oh, he left.
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#1895 [11:08] <Zw> Hi
#1896 [11:08] <Morrolan> hey Zw
#1897 [11:09] <Zw> Is there anyone here good with ubuntu, that maby want to show me some trix? ^^
#1898 [11:10] <Morrolan> Sorry, can't help you with that. ^^ There are several people with Ubuntu experience here though, just wait a bit. :)
#1899 [11:10] <Zw> ;-D
#1900 [11:11] <Zw> Need help figuring out some problems :P
#1901 [11:11] <Zw> Instead of crawling back to Win:P
#1902 [11:11] <Burlingk> Yeah, I rebooted the server, started playing. As soon as the guy logged in (he did) the chat stopped working. A handful of seconds later, timed out.
#1903 [11:11] <Morrolan> Burlingk: Are you using Bukkit or the vanilla server?
#1904 [11:12] <Burlingk> Bukkit. :P So I should probably ask there also! ^_^
#1905 [11:12] <Morrolan> Yea, since it might be a security hole in Bukkit or so.
#1906 [11:12] <Morrolan> Something which an invalid nick or what do I know.
#1907 [11:13] <Morrolan> with*
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#1911 [11:46] <xorcon> Hey, I have a huge problem. Can someone help me?
#1912 [11:46] <SkiingPenguins> what's up?
#1913 [11:47] <xorcon> So last night, Minecraft wouldnt open, so I was stuck with it saying Java was nonexistant. I checked the forums, got a few solutions
#1914 [11:48] <xorcon> Nothing worked, I couldnt unisntall it or reinstall it
#1915 [11:48] <SkiingPenguins> so you want to reinstall java?
#1916 [11:48] <xorcon> No, I did a system restore and now minecraft wont open
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#1918 [11:49] <xorcon> It doesnt give any error, I was even able to update and use other java apps
#1919 [11:49] <SkiingPenguins> hmm, i dont know. maybe someone else can help you. these people in here are smarter than me
#1920 [11:49] <xorcon> Okay
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#1922 [11:51] <xorcon> Do you happen to know if Notch's company mojang has a tech support email address?
#1923 [11:52] <SkiingPenguins> it might be support@mojang.com but they are kind of swamped with emails, last i heard
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#1925 [11:52] <xorcon> Okay
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#1930 [12:12] <m070809> hi when is start mc and want to login in a multiplayer server then is there Loggin in... and this stands there ever and mc is down
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#1932 [12:13] <wrath> so
#1933 [12:13] <wrath> still no go
#1934 [12:14] <m070809> hi when is start mc and want to login in a multiplayer server then is there Loggin in... and this stands there ever and mc is down
#1935 [12:15] <BarryCarlyon> cc2k: __\X on top of x is your block with the junction on
#1936 [12:16] <BarryCarlyon> cc2k: or try vertical power transmission (check the minecraft wiki)
#1937 [12:16] <wrath> my minecraft is not workin
#1938 [12:16] <cc2k> yeah Morrolan helpt me already on the server and he did that :")
#1939 [12:16] <BarryCarlyon> m070809: whats your actual error.
#1940 [12:16] <BarryCarlyon> cc2k: cool :-D
#1941 [12:16] <wrath> both browser and exe
#1942 [12:16] <BarryCarlyon> wrath: whats the error/
#1943 [12:16] <cc2k> u kinda late but still thx:)
#1944 [12:16] <wrath> mno error
#1945 [12:16] <wrath> no
#1946 [12:16] <m070809> there stands loggin in and nothing happens
#1947 [12:17] <wrath> jsut closes
#1948 [12:17] <wrath> and the browser just shows a blank white bg
#1949 [12:17] <BarryCarlyon> Sounsd like your java isborked wrath
#1950 [12:17] <m070809> and aftter 10 sek. it shutsdown
#1951 [12:17] <wrath> i tried uninstalling and reinstalling
#1952 [12:17] <BarryCarlyon> m070809: web or browser, what shutsdown?
#1953 [12:17] <m070809> Minecraft
#1954 [12:17] <BarryCarlyon> wrath: has it ever worked for oyu?
#1955 [12:17] <wrath> yes
#1956 [12:17] <BarryCarlyon> m070809: web or non web.
#1957 [12:17] <wrath> worked yseterday
#1958 [12:17] <m070809> when i want to login in my multipayer server
#1959 [12:17] <BarryCarlyon> hmm
#1960 [12:17] <m070809> non web
#1961 [12:17] <wrath> yesterday*
#1962 [12:18] <BarryCarlyon> m070809: has it ever worked for you? Check java is up to date the same for your grahics drivers.
#1963 [12:18] <BarryCarlyon> m070809: does single player work
#1964 [12:18] <m070809> yes all works i update all
#1965 [12:18] <BarryCarlyon> wrath: both single and multiplater?
#1966 [12:18] <m070809> redownload?
#1967 [12:18] <BarryCarlyon> you can try that m070809
#1968 [12:19] <wrath> welk
#1969 [12:19] <wrath> it doesnt go futher than the mojang logo
#1970 [12:19] <BarryCarlyon> hmm
#1971 [12:19] <m070809> now it work
#1972 [12:19] <m070809> id dont know why
#1973 [12:19] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#1974 [12:19] <m070809> ok thx :D
#1975 [12:19] <BarryCarlyon> wrath: what os?
#1976 [12:19] <wrath> windows 7
#1977 [12:19] <wrath> pro
#1978 [12:19] <BarryCarlyon> euw
#1979 [12:20] <BarryCarlyon> im mac based these days.
#1980 [12:20] <wrath> heh
#1981 [12:20] <BarryCarlyon> So not sure what hte probem could be
#1982 [12:20] <wrath> damnit hehe
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#1986 [12:26] <twanajester23> Hello
#1987 [12:26] <twanajester23> I need some help with my server.
#1988 [12:26] <twanajester23> Anyone that want to help me?
#1989 [12:26] <twanajester23> I guess not..
#1990 [12:27] <twanajester23> ?????????????
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#1992 [12:27] <twanajester23> SOmeone here?
#1993 [12:27] <twanajester23> that can help me?
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#1995 [12:29] <Morrolan> Twanajseter: What do you need?
#1996 [12:29] <Morrolan> There is no need to be that impatient btw. ;)
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#1998 [12:30] <Frunten> the server is up actually
#1999 [12:30] <twanajester23> ?
#2000 [12:30] <twanajester23> yes
#2001 [12:30] <twanajester23> but can u help me?
#2002 [12:30] <twanajester23> with my minecraft server?
#2003 [12:31] <Frunten> what is the problem?
#2004 [12:31] <twanajester23> I made a nogui
#2005 [12:31] <twanajester23> and when i change it from 964m to 1024m it doesnt work
#2006 [12:31] <Morrolan> What does it say?
#2007 [12:31] <twanajester23> nothing
#2008 [12:31] <twanajester23> when i start it just closes
#2009 [12:32] <Frunten> try run as administrator when you created a shortcut
#2010 [12:32] <Morrolan> It should show an error or something in the console window.
#2011 [12:32] <twanajester23> it is as admin
#2012 [12:32] <twanajester23> i am admin
#2013 [12:32] <twanajester23> the console closes so fast i cant see it
#2014 [12:32] <Morrolan> Do you launch it with a .bat file?
#2015 [12:32] <twanajester23> yes
#2016 [12:33] <Morrolan> Ok. Open this, and add a new line with "@pause" on it.
#2017 [12:33] <Morrolan> (without the "")
#2018 [12:33] <twanajester23> becouse when 2 peeps on server with settings to 964M there is soo freaking much lag.
#2019 [12:33] <Morrolan> Then the console should stay open.
#2020 [12:34] <twanajester23> i try @pause
#2021 [12:35] <twanajester23> could not create the java virtual machine
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#2023 [12:35] <twanajester23> Morrolan
#2024 [12:36] <Morrolan> Normally this happens if you try to start it with more memory than Java has available or so. :/
#2025 [12:36] <twanajester23> how do i fix it?
#2026 [12:36] <twanajester23> i got 2gb ram free space nothing running
#2027 [12:36] <twanajester23> and a quadcore
#2028 [12:36] <twanajester23> AMD
#2029 [12:37] <Morrolan> Sorry twanajester, I've seen several people with this error, and the only thing they could do was to launch it with less memory. I suggest you come back here later, maybe there will be someone here who can help you. :/
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#2031 [12:41] <twanajester23> ok
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#2037 [13:14] <arensirb> Is it correct that the old launcher uses
#2038 [13:14] <arensirb> wth
#2039 [13:14] <arensirb> http://www.minecraft.net/game/getversion.jsp to authenticate?
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#2048 [13:38] * Kealper yawns
#2048 [13:38] <Plaid> Hello
#2049 [13:38] <Kealper> hi
#2050 [13:38] <Plaid> I've searched on this website and other places, and I can't connect to the WoM server, even with the WoM client thing.
#2051 [13:39] <Plaid> Can you help me?
#2052 [13:39] <Kealper> i've never used the WoM stuff, so i can't be of help :/
#2053 [13:39] <Plaid> OH! i get it!
#2054 [13:39] <Plaid> I'm on wom.com
#2055 [13:39] <Kealper> the best place for WoM issues is actually talking to WoM people
#2056 [13:39] <Plaid> and i thought this was part of it
#2057 [13:40] <Plaid> Opps XD
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#2059 [13:40] <Kealper> lol
#2060 [13:40] <skandis> Hey, Im trying to find a s server, but I only get creative on the MC list
#2061 [13:40] <skandis> Are there even s servers on there?
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#2063 [13:40] <Kealper> skandis: no, there is no official SMP server list
#2064 [13:40] <Plaid> I can't even connect to minecraft.net on this computer
#2065 [13:41] <Kealper> there is http://mcserverlist.net though
#2066 [13:41] <skandis> So all the public servers are "official"?
#2067 [13:41] <Kealper> the login stuff might still be screwy
#2068 [13:41] <Plaid> Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to minecraft.net
#2069 [13:41] <Kealper> skandis: no, all those servers on that list can be any classic server software
#2070 [13:41] * Kealper checks mc.net
#2070 [13:41] <Kealper> HMMMM
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#2072 [13:42] <Kealper> well, that was slow
#2073 [13:42] <Kealper> no images loaded on the page lol
#2074 [13:42] <Plaid> Itsnt that a cached version?
#2075 [13:42] <Kealper> no, i hard refreshed it :/
#2076 [13:43] <Plaid> hard refresh?
#2077 [13:43] <Kealper> took AGES to just get the html and the css file...never got the images
#2078 [13:43] <Kealper> hard refresh: ctrl+F5
#2079 [13:43] <skandis> Refresh always makes me hard
#2080 [13:43] <Kealper> oh my
#2081 [13:43] <skandis> Im 14/f/cali
#2082 [13:44] <Kealper> and i've got a million dollars >.>
#2083 [13:44] <skandis> You wanna hook up?
#2084 [13:44] <skandis> Youll get my booty for your cash
#2085 [13:44] <skandis> It's a fair deal
#2086 [13:44] <Kealper> idk, i'd have to fly to sweden...seems like a big trip
#2087 [13:45] <Plaid> So is there Wom help Irc?
#2088 [13:45] <skandis> I could send you a polar bear
#2089 [13:45] <Kealper> Plaid: i'm actually not sure...i have not heard of any irc channel for them
#2090 [13:45] <Plaid> well i posted in the forums
#2091 [13:45] <skandis> hrm
#2092 [13:45] <skandis> error 500 from mc.net
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#2094 [13:46] <Plaid> I think I heard that notch is messing with it.....
#2095 [13:46] <Kealper> yeah...19/20 times i've tried i got that
#2096 [13:46] <iamweirdie> so THATS why it wasnt working
#2097 [13:46] <Plaid> minecraft.net
#2098 [13:46] <Kealper> and from the error log, it looks like their database server is totally swamped
#2099 [13:46] <iamweirdie> anybody got any rumors or anything?
#2100 [13:46] <Plaid> I THINK..... not sure
#2101 [13:46] <skandis> Yea, I'm thinking the same thing
#2102 [13:46] <skandis> Someone managed to eff up some important array
#2103 [13:47] <Kealper> to be honest this error log that java threw just looks like the database server is either down or out of free connections
#2104 [13:47] <Kealper> it can't connect to the database to get anything, so it just crashes
#2105 [13:48] <Plaid> Any of you heard of Team Avolition?
#2106 [13:48] <Kealper> nope :/
#2107 [13:49] <skandis> Yea, whats up?
#2108 [13:50] <iamweirdie> http://twitter.com/notch hey he's in a chatroom
#2109 [13:50] <Kealper> hmm...looks like the database is just overloaded....just got the minecraft.net page perfectly fine like 3 times in a row now
#2110 [13:50] <iamweirdie> can somebody contact some1 in the chatroom and tell notch?
#2111 [13:50] <Kealper> i'm sure he already knows about the website issues
#2112 [13:51] <ngc0202> lol
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#2114 [13:51] <Kealper> it looks like the website just has too many people trying to connect at once
#2115 [13:51] <iamweirdie> its weird to me cuz if he did, wouldnt he release some sort of statement on twitter
#2116 [13:51] <iamweirdie> ?
#2117 [13:51] <skandis> Its back
#2118 [13:51] <Kealper> why bother? he is just a developer for Mojang, he doesn't deal with the website stuff
#2119 [13:52] <skandis> Kealper, looks more like someone effed up an imporant db
#2120 [13:52] <skandis> Its up now anyway
#2121 [13:52] <Mortkri> Is it any way to change my minecraft nick?
#2122 [13:52] <Kealper> skandis: not screwed up, if you look at the error output, that 500 exception is caused because the website could not connect to the database
#2123 [13:53] <Kealper> and that happens when the database is either offline or overloaded
#2124 [13:53] <iamweirdie> more dev on the iphone? XD
#2125 [13:53] <skandis> True
#2126 [13:53] <Kealper> and since i could intermittently get a website to load before, it means it was just full-up on connections
#2127 [13:53] <Kealper> which has already been confirmed as the issue by Mojang's website guy
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#2129 [13:54] <Kealper> they have like 3 webservers behind a load balencer for handling minecraft.net, but iirc they only have one database server that all 3 of those webservers have to connect to for every single page view
#2130 [13:55] <skandis> lol webhosting companies
#2131 [13:55] <Kealper> they are currently working on getting a hosting solution that can actually keep up with the demand
#2132 [13:56] <Kealper> (don't say cloud, that's what they have now, and it has actually crashed the load balencer before)
#2133 [13:57] <skandis> Somehow I always get the feeling that everything webhosting I get in contact with, is run by the most inept of people
#2134 [13:58] <Kealper> sad part: minecraft.net is currently going through an Amazon EC2 cloud...you'd think that would be able to handle it ._.
#2135 [14:03] <arensirb> is mcnet back up?
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#2137 [14:04] <Snackified> hay guise
#2138 [14:04] <Snackified> for some reason I can't craft the bed
#2139 [14:04] <Snackified> three wool on top of three wooden planks, right?
#2140 [14:05] <Mortkri> Is it any way to change my minecraft nick?
#2141 [14:05] <Kealper> Snackified: should be......
#2142 [14:06] <Kealper> you are not using sticks, right?
#2143 [14:06] <Snackified> Nope
#2144 [14:06] <Snackified> the planks you get after sticking logs into the crafting menu
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#2146 [14:06] <Snackified> three of those, then three pieces of wool I got from punching a sheep
#2147 [14:07] <Snackified> I dunno, I'm fairly certain my Minecraft is up to date
#2148 [14:07] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#2149 [14:07] <Kealper> what does the version say in the top left?
#2150 [14:07] <Snackified> 1.3_01
#2151 [14:08] <Kealper> hmm....no idea
#2152 [14:08] <Snackified> weird
#2153 [14:10] <Snackified> screenie, if it does any good
#2154 [14:10] <Snackified> http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6084/nobed.png
#2155 [14:11] <Kealper> $1 says that texture pack is not updated and there is actually a bed inside that crafting window
#2156 [14:11] <skandis> Are there any servers on http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp that arent creative?
#2157 [14:11] <skandis> :x
#2158 [14:11] <Kealper> skandis: http://mcserverlist.net
#2159 [14:11] <Snackified> dammit
#2160 [14:11] <Kealper> not official, but has a good list
#2161 [14:11] <Snackified> guess who just won a dollar <.<
#2162 [14:11] <Kealper> \o/
#2163 [14:11] <Snackified> lol
#2164 [14:12] <skandis> A FULL DOLLAR!?
#2165 [14:12] <skandis> SHIIII DUDE
#2166 [14:12] <Snackified> I no rite mayne
#2167 [14:12] <Snackified> one hundred whole cents
#2168 [14:12] <Kealper> got a link to that texture pack? i could throw the default bed in there for you
#2169 [14:12] <skandis> You can get laid multiple times in Liberia for that sum
#2170 [14:12] * Kealper cringes
#2170 [14:12] <Snackified> aww yeah guess who's moving to liberia
#2171 [14:12] <Snackified> Yeah, one sec
#2172 [14:12] <Snackified> it's the Awesome texture pack
#2173 [14:13] <Snackified> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=117431
#2174 [14:14] <Kealper> looks like it should be updated....
#2175 [14:15] <Kealper> did you switch to the default one and try it?
#2176 [14:15] <Snackified> *shrug*
#2177 [14:15] <Snackified> Not yet
#2178 [14:16] <Kealper> hmm
#2179 [14:16] <Kealper> that pack has the bed texture....
#2180 [14:16] * Kealper checks if it has the item texture
#2180 [14:17] <Snackified> The texture for the bed itself is just two purple blocks lol
#2181 [14:17] <Kealper> everything checks out with that pack.....it should be working :/
#2182 [14:17] <Snackified> ah well
#2183 [14:17] <Snackified> purple bed's cool d:
#2184 [14:18] <Kealper> purple?
#2185 [14:18] <Kealper> screenshot please? lol
#2186 [14:18] <Snackified> lol
#2187 [14:18] <Snackified> sure
#2188 [14:20] <Snackified> sec ...
#2189 [14:21] <Snackified> http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/8258/purplebed.png
#2190 [14:22] <Kealper> that's weird...let me check that texture pack again and see if the textures are in the correct position....i just looked and seen they were in there :/
#2191 [14:22] <Snackified> okay
#2192 [14:22] <Snackified> dunno
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#2194 [14:23] <shmoo> hi
#2195 [14:23] <Snackified> hey
#2196 [14:23] <shmoo> is that u
#2197 [14:23] <Snackified> wut <_<
#2198 [14:24] <shmoo> Mackey
#2199 [14:24] <Kealper> meh, looks like your client is weird.....that texture pack is fine :/
#2200 [14:24] <Snackified> lol, ah well
#2201 [14:24] <relsqui> I was having some invisible block issues yesterday
#2202 [14:24] <shmoo> so what shall i do
#2203 [14:24] <relsqui> placed something and could walk over it but couldn't see it
#2204 [14:24] <relsqui> until I connected something else to it
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#2206 [14:25] <Kealper> relsqui: this isn't invisble block, his client is actually trying to get the texture from the wrong spot in the files
#2207 [14:25] <relsqui> ah. weird.
#2208 [14:25] <Kealper> Snackified: try reinstalling your client? (select Options in the launcher and check the option to redownload files)
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#2210 [14:26] <Snackified> Okay
#2211 [14:26] <coolguy> help me pls
#2212 [14:26] <Kealper> ?? ask
#2213 [14:26] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2214 [14:26] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2215 [14:26] <coolguy> i have some minecraft problems
#2216 [14:26] <coolguy> can u help?
#2217 [14:26] <Kealper> ?? specific
#2218 [14:26] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2219 [14:26] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2220 [14:27] <Kealper> can't help if i don't know what's wrong
#2221 [14:27] <coolguy> well
#2222 [14:27] <coolguy> i cant play online
#2223 [14:27] <Kealper> "Can't connect to minecraft.net"?
#2224 [14:27] <relsqui> just the facts, please. what happens when you try? have you tried connecting to multiple servers?
#2225 [14:28] <coolguy> it says An error occured while loading the applet.
#2226 [14:28] <coolguy> Please contact support to resolve this issue.
#2227 [14:28] <coolguy> Fatal error occured (1): Unable to load logo and progressbar images
#2228 [14:28] <xales> are you trying to play Classic, or Beta?
#2229 [14:28] <coolguy> beta
#2230 [14:28] <coolguy> online
#2231 [14:28] <xales> use the download client
#2232 [14:29] <coolguy> lemme see
#2233 [14:29] <coolguy> no i mean the classic
#2234 [14:29] <xales> what browser are you using
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#2236 [14:33] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/7LFmU.png :3
#2237 [14:34] <relsqui> bahaha
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#2239 [14:37] <Kealper> that thing is on my server
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#2241 [14:43] <Mahraja> Hello
#2242 [14:43] <Kealper> hi
#2243 [14:43] <Mahraja> anyone mind telling me how I can load the Subteranean mod onto a server? I can run it I just cant figure out how to use the mod =P
#2244 [14:44] <Kealper> you'd have to contact the maker of the mod for that one, this channel is only really for support with the unmodded game
#2245 [14:44] <Mahraja> -.-
#2246 [14:44] <Mahraja> So no one in here doesnt have at least SOME experience? :p
#2247 [14:45] <Kealper> you could try the channel #risucraft though....they are a general modding channel, and might know
#2248 [14:45] <Mahraja> willdo
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#2260 [15:38] <Trel> I'm having a problem with the server. When someone connects, any action constantly gets undone almost instantly, this includes destroying or placing blocks, and more importantly, opening doors.
#2261 [15:38] <oldtopman> Trel: Are you OP?
#2262 [15:39] <oldtopman> And do you know if the server runs bukkit?
#2263 [15:42] <Trel> oldtopman: server is running on my laptop
#2264 [15:42] <Trel> and it's NOT near the spawnpoint
#2265 [15:43] <oldtopman> Are you OP?
#2266 [15:44] <Trel> ok I am now
#2267 [15:44] <Trel> and it appears to work, what does that mean for the cause of the problem?
#2268 [15:44] <Trel> ok it was the proximity to the spawn point then
#2269 [15:44] <oldtopman> Bukkit has these stupid build rights doohickey
#2270 [15:44] <oldtopman> You can heave either build rights or op status.
#2271 [15:45] <Trel> is there a way to turn that off?
#2272 [15:45] <oldtopman> Either one of those lets you build. If I just come to your server, I can't build/destroy
#2273 [15:45] <Trel> and that doesn't let you open doors either?
#2274 [15:46] <Trel> so can I make it so anyone can interact anywhere?
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#2276 [15:47] <oldtopman> Trel: I'm no expert in a bukkit problem as I don't use it. #bukkit I guess.
#2277 [15:47] <Trel> I'm not using it either, It looks like's it's proximity to spawn point, is there a way around that?
#2278 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Spawn point protection? Not really.
#2279 [15:48] <oldtopman> But a vanilla server doesn't do spawn protection does it?
#2280 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> It does
#2281 [15:49] * oldtopman realises he has been op all of the eime.
#2281 [15:49] <Trel> eh ok, I'll just move the spawn point
#2282 [15:55] <Schumacher> anyone here wanna help me trouble shoot a ram issue?
#2283 [15:56] <oldtopman> Schumacher: Memtest
#2284 [15:57] <Schumacher> the memory is good
#2285 [15:57] <Schumacher> im running into an issue with my server not using almost 90% of the memory alocated to it
#2286 [15:58] <Schumacher> and thats causing all sorts of page faults
#2287 [15:58] <Schumacher> which in turn makes the server lag like all hell
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#2289 [15:58] <oldtopman> Schumacher: Do you use the allocating command-line thingy
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#2291 [15:59] <Schumacher> yes
#2292 [15:59] <the_antithesis> Could someone help a total noob?
#2293 [15:59] <Schumacher> antithesis: whats up
#2294 [16:00] <the_antithesis> I'm having trouble using a custom character skin.
#2295 [16:00] <xolotl> the_antithesis: The website doesn't show updated skins properly
#2296 [16:00] <oldtopman> Schumacher: change it to more ram. The numbers are MB. If you want to give it 2GB then do 2048
#2297 [16:00] <xolotl> the_antithesis: But it is probably actually working; check it in-game (go into your inventory)
#2298 [16:00] <the_antithesis> I did early, but I'll double check.
#2299 [16:01] <Schumacher> oldtopman: i know and i tried that but i get an error saying could not reserve enough space for the object heap
#2300 [16:01] <Schumacher> could not start the java vm
#2301 [16:01] <Schumacher> when i try to add more than 1 mb
#2302 [16:02] <oldtopman> WHat OS are you using, how much RAM does it have (hardware)
#2303 [16:02] <the_antithesis> OK, cool. I checked in-game early and it didn't work, but now it does. Thanks
#2304 [16:02] <Schumacher> windows server 2003 sp2 xenon e5405 @ 2.00ghz and 14 gigs of ram
#2305 [16:03] <oldtopman> Schumacher: The old systems aren't 64bit and refuse to address more than 2-4GB of ram.
#2306 [16:03] <xolotl> the_antithesis: np. Hopefully they'll get around to fixing the site one of these days. :)
#2307 [16:05] <the_antithesis> Or make custome skins/textures easier to manipulate with the client or something like that.
#2308 [16:05] <the_antithesis> Later.
#2309 [16:06] <Schumacher> oldtopman: i just googled the processor and it says its a 4 core with 64bit instructing set
#2310 [16:06] <oldtopman> But the OS isn't 64 bit.
#2311 [16:06] <Schumacher> oooo
#2312 [16:06] <Schumacher> good call
#2313 [16:06] <Schumacher> lmao
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#2315 [16:07] <oldtopman> Late versions of XP (all drivers were incompatible) and Vista and 7 are 64 bit versions
#2316 [16:07] <oldtopman> or have 64 bit versions
#2317 [16:07] <skandis> I got 64 bit XP
#2318 [16:07] <skandis> Its the biggest mess ever
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#2320 [16:08] <oldtopman> ikr
#2321 [16:09] <Schumacher> hmmm
#2322 [16:09] <oldtopman> Get 7 or Linux.
#2323 [16:09] <mattijas> is it possible to lower the Memory usage for minecraft :}
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#2326 [16:12] <Schumacher> oldtopman: so im talking to the guy that owns there server computer (a friend of mine)
#2327 [16:13] <Schumacher> and he said windows server 2003 sp2
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#2329 [16:13] <Schumacher> can use all of the memory
#2330 [16:13] <lookatmego> MINECRAFT ACCOUNT WERE BEING HACKED! READ ABOUT IT HERE: http://bukkit.org/ orr<
#2331 [16:13] <lookatmego> http://z15.invisionfree.com/MC_TeamWars/index.php?showtopic=282&st=0&#last
#2332 [16:13] <lookatmego> there
#2333 [16:13] <SkiingPenguins> why the caps
#2334 [16:14] <Kealper> lookatmego: we are already aware of the situation
#2335 [16:14] <lookatmego> k
#2336 [16:14] <oldtopman> Schumacher: I thought you said 2000. You are correct, just looking up limits now.
#2337 [16:14] <lookatmego> good just letting everyone know
#2338 [16:15] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper: must I even if i dont use such clients/mods/go on servers?
#2339 [16:16] <Kealper> SkiingPenguins: the only way that those peopel could have been hacked was with unsavory client mods
#2340 [16:16] <Kealper> the server never has access to the person's password
#2341 [16:16] <SkiingPenguins> oh okay
#2342 [16:16] <SkiingPenguins> lol noobs these days
#2343 [16:17] <Schumacher> oldtopman: it can use up to like 128 gigs of ram or some stupid high number like that
#2344 [16:18] <Kealper> http://mc.kealper.com/tester/ <-- am i doin it rite?
#2345 [16:19] <SkiingPenguins> Kealper: i like the background color change :P
#2346 [16:19] <SkiingPenguins> very good indicator ^.^
#2347 [16:19] <Kealper> yeah, another person made one but it was more simple....i made that one so it gives focus to the input box and does color indicators
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#2354 [16:34] <PiercingGoblin> Hey, I need help with making a texture pack
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#2356 [16:34] <PiercingGoblin> Im trying to make a grayscale texture pack, but the foliage + top of grass is still green
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#2358 [16:35] <xolotl> PiercingGoblin: Yeah, without a client mod there'd be no way around that
#2359 [16:37] <PiercingGoblin> Really?
#2360 [16:38] <xolotl> PiercingGoblin: Really.
#2361 [16:38] <xolotl> PiercingGoblin: Grass and leaf coloring is done dynamically to support biome coloration. Redstone wire will also be red.
#2362 [16:38] <PiercingGoblin> Is there a client mod you know of that will let me do grayscale?
#2363 [16:39] <xolotl> PiercingGoblin: No idea; I don't use mods. I'd suspect not, though; there's probably not really been a call for it.
#2364 [16:39] <EmpiresBane> hrm... there might be some interesting affects that could be done with that
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#2366 [16:42] <xolotl> PiercingGoblin: Oh actually, perhaps I'm wrong. Look into overriding misc/foliagecolor.png and misc/grasscolor.png
#2367 [16:44] <xolotl> or not.
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#2373 [16:45] <PiercingGoblin> I tried those
#2374 [16:45] <PiercingGoblin> I changed them to grayscale with no luck
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#2387 [16:55] <killking72> anybody know how to get a server up and running?
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#2389 [16:55] <xales> download it, run it
#2390 [16:56] <killking72> i did but sometimes people couldnt connect
#2391 [16:56] <killking72> well....all the time
#2392 [16:56] <xales> what happens when they try?
#2393 [16:56] <xales> did you port forward? what IP are they using
#2394 [16:57] <killking72> it either says timed out or something about the connection
#2395 [16:57] <killking72> like right now i cant even connect to my own server
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#2398 [17:01] <pwnus> Are u connecting from a school ot
#2399 [17:01] <pwnus> Or workplace?
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#2402 [17:05] <killking72> home
#2403 [17:05] <killking72> i have it working for me but my friend keeps getting timed out
#2404 [17:05] <xales> did you port forward?
#2405 [17:05] <killking72> yes
#2406 [17:05] <xales> and, as I asked before, what IP is your friend using to try to connect
#2407 [17:05] <killking72> opened 25565
#2408 [17:06] <killking72> 71.143.179.189
#2409 [17:06] <xales> !check 71.143.179.189
#2410 [17:06] <xales> you either didn't port forward correctly, or you have a firewall blocking it
#2411 [17:06] <killking72> 25565?
#2412 [17:07] <killking72> ok by port forward you mean opening ports
#2413 [17:07] <xales> no, by port forward I mean port forward
#2414 [17:07] <killking72> which is
#2415 [17:07] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_forwarding
#2416 [17:08] <killking72> ok cool. you know how to do that?
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#2418 [17:08] <xales> it depends on your router
#2419 [17:08] <xales> go to http://portforward.com/ and select the model of router you have
#2420 [17:08] <xales> skip the ad, then click "Minecraft server"
#2421 [17:10] <killking72> yes i did that
#2422 [17:10] <killking72> i did that a few weeks ago when i first tried this server
#2423 [17:11] <xales> did you enter an IP in the "server.properties" file?
#2424 [17:11] <killking72> of my computer?
#2425 [17:11] <xales> for the "server-ip=" section
#2426 [17:11] <killking72> oh oh oh
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#2428 [17:11] <xales> if you put an IP in that, you must remove it
#2429 [17:12] <killking72> oh i havent
#2430 [17:12] <killking72> i havent put one in there
#2431 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Did it work before?
#2432 [17:12] <killking72> i has before
#2433 [17:13] <killking72> xales connected once when other people couldnt get in
#2434 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Then recheck your port forwarding settings. It's possible something may have changed
#2435 [17:13] <killking72> just did
#2436 [17:13] <killking72> hasnt
#2437 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Walk us through your port forwarding steps
#2438 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Start with the computer running the server. What is its IP?
#2439 [17:14] <killking72> 71.143.179.189
#2440 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Internal IP
#2441 [17:14] <killking72> 192.168.1.71
#2442 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Firewall off? Security software off?
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#2444 [17:15] <killking72> uhh no
#2445 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Okay, configured to let port 25565 through?
#2446 [17:15] <killking72> yes
#2447 [17:15] <killking72> on both tcp and udp
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#2449 [17:15] <xales> killking72: Just to test, try completely disabling it
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#2451 [17:19] <killking72> ok i deleted them and remade them
#2452 [17:20] <killking72> xales i deleted them
#2453 [17:20] <xales> deleted what?
#2454 [17:20] <killking72> i disabled it
#2455 [17:21] <xales> disabled what?
#2456 [17:21] <killking72> firewall
#2457 [17:21] <xales> ok..and did you test it?
#2458 [17:21] <killking72> doing it right now
#2459 [17:22] <killking72> didnt work for him
#2460 [17:22] <xales> Re-do the port forward settings
#2461 [17:23] <killking72> so reenable my firewall on my computer and put the ports back in?
#2462 [17:23] <xales> Just keep it off, it's easier to test
#2463 [17:23] <xales> and anyway, a firewall does nothing if you are behind a router
#2464 [17:23] <killking72> i turned the firewall for my computer off on my router
#2465 [17:24] <xales> Do you have a firewall running on your computer?
#2466 [17:24] <killking72> believe so
#2467 [17:24] <xales> turn that off as well
#2468 [17:25] <killking72> it is
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#2470 [17:25] <xales> so you turned off the firewall on your computer, as well as on your router, and you port forwarded?
#2471 [17:25] <killking72> yes
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#2473 [17:26] <xales> re-do the port forwarding then
#2474 [17:26] <killking72> this is goina be the second time i did it for you
#2475 [17:26] <xales> double check the settings as well
#2476 [17:26] <xales> make sure you are using the correct IPs, and that your external address is correct as well
#2477 [17:27] <killking72> can you try to connect?
#2478 [17:27] <killking72> i've done that every time he cant connnect
#2479 [17:27] <xales> !check 71.143.179.189
#2480 [17:27] <killking72> ?
#2481 [17:28] <killking72> and that means what?
#2482 [17:28] <xales> that it didn't work
#2483 [17:28] <killking72> if my ip doesnt work then how am i on the internet?
#2484 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> means your port forwarding didn't work
#2485 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Your internet still works
#2486 [17:29] <killking72> my port forwarding for minecraft?
#2487 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2488 [17:29] <killking72> i...did the same thing xales website told me to do
#2489 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Something was misconfigured then
#2490 [17:29] <killking72> it wasnt
#2491 [17:30] <xales> If it wasn't, then it would work
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#2493 [17:30] <killking72> i will set it up the same way the website said for the 3rd time
#2494 [17:30] <killking72> brb
#2495 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Your computer's internal IP was 192.168.1.71
#2496 [17:30] <Zumbach242> Help.
#2497 [17:30] <xales> Zumbach242: With?
#2498 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward to 192.168.1.71?
#2499 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> with port 25565-25565
#2500 [17:31] <Zumbach242> I changed my password and I cannot remember it
#2501 [17:31] <killking72> yes
#2502 [17:31] <Zumbach242> I heard of all the attacks on hacking accounts
#2503 [17:31] <xales> Zumbach242: Then use the "forgot password" thing on the website?
#2504 [17:31] <killking72> it has both the public and private
#2505 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#2506 [17:31] <Zumbach242> Yeah
#2507 [17:31] <xales> killking72: If you entered the public IP on the port forwarding setup, you will need to remove it
#2508 [17:32] <killking72> it is auto
#2509 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> killking72 - Give us a screenshot of the port forwarding page
#2510 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> upload it to imgur.com
#2511 [17:32] <killking72> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/2wire/2700HG-B/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2512 [17:32] <Zumbach242> Do you think the log in system being down has to do with this?
#2513 [17:33] <xales> Zumbach242: Did you try to reset it with the "forgot password" thing? And no, it doesn't
#2514 [17:33] <Zumbach242> Yes..
#2515 [17:33] <Zumbach242> Idk my old password
#2516 [17:33] <Zumbach242> :p
#2517 [17:33] <xales> You don't need your old password to use the "forgot password" thing...that's kind of the point of "forgot password"
#2518 [17:34] <Zumbach242> ...brb
#2519 [17:34] <killking72> see?
#2520 [17:35] <xales> killking72: Can you take a screenshot of your port forwarding page, with the settings you entered?
#2521 [17:35] <Zumbach242> Xales: Where do you go if you forgot your password (thanks alot)
#2522 [17:35] <killking72> in just a min. ip on the router is doing something wierd
#2523 [17:35] <killking72> goina restart my computer
#2524 [17:36] <xales> Zumbach242: GreyVulpine gave you a link, as well as the "Forgot Password" link underneath "Log In"
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#2526 [17:37] <Zumbach242> Erm.
#2527 [17:37] <Zumbach242> No
#2528 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#2529 [17:37] <Zumbach242> Thanks so much
#2530 [17:38] <Zumbach242> There was no link provided any where
#2531 [17:38] <Zumbach242> for that
#2532 [17:38] <Zumbach242> :P
#2533 [17:38] <xales> Zumbach242: http://www.minecraft.net/login.jsp Right there, "Forgot Password"
#2534 [17:38] <Zumbach242> Yeah, I didnt want to log out
#2535 [17:39] <Zumbach242> Because if i did that, i couldnt play mc no more :(
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#2537 [17:40] <Zumbach242> xales: Are you a worker for Mojang?
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#2540 [17:41] <killking72> ok i'm back
#2541 [17:41] <xales> No
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#2543 [17:41] <Zumbach242> Oh.
#2544 [17:41] <Zumbach242> Well, thanks again, bye!.... I feel retarded
#2545 [17:45] <killking72> xales
#2546 [17:45] <killking72> what else did you want me to do?
#2547 [17:45] <xales> Is your computer plugged directly into the 2wire modem?
#2548 [17:45] <killking72> yes
#2549 [17:45] <xales> So if you follow the cable from your computer
#2550 [17:46] <xales> The only thing it plugs into is the 2wire modem
#2551 [17:46] <killking72> it goes into thin air and then magic takes over and it goes into the modem
#2552 [17:46] <xales> So your computer is on wifi then?
#2553 [17:46] <killking72> no
#2554 [17:46] <killking72> that's me being a smart ass
#2555 [17:47] <killking72> it goes straight into the modem
#2556 [17:47] <xales> Try removing all of the port forwarding settings entirely
#2557 [17:48] <xales> Then following the instructions again, and make sure to entirely follow them
#2558 [17:48] <killking72> no
#2559 [17:48] <killking72> i'm not doing that a 4th time
#2560 [17:49] <xales> OK then, nothing else you can do
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#2562 [17:49] <killking72> i'm going to get on rift. you sir are dumb
#2563 [17:49] <Tirent> Hi all i have a error 998 loadlibary failed ive tried everything can anyone help :)
#2564 [17:49] <xales> Tirent: What OS?
#2565 [17:50] <Tirent> 7 64 bit
#2566 [17:50] <xales> Do you have Java installed?
#2567 [17:50] <Tirent> yes ive installed both 32 and 64 bit versions
#2568 [17:50] <xales> Can you take a screenshot of the error
#2569 [17:51] <Tirent> um yeah i think i can
#2570 [17:51] <Tirent> how do i send files threw irc?
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#2572 [17:51] <xales> You don't. Upload it to imgur.com
#2573 [17:53] <Tirent> http://imgur.com/WGrzl
#2574 [17:54] <xales> oh, one of those
#2575 [17:54] <xales> that's an easy fix, most of the time
#2576 [17:54] <xales> update your graphics card drivers from AMD (ATI)
#2577 [17:54] <Tirent> k hope it works brb
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#2580 [18:00] <Tirent> hey im back i updated drivers again but still dont work
#2581 [18:00] <xales> Did you restart your computer after installing the update?
#2582 [18:01] <Tirent> yup yup
#2583 [18:01] <xales> ??> Tirent win/dxdiag
#2584 [18:01] <VoxelHead> Tirent: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2585 [18:01] <VoxelHead> Tirent: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2586 [18:01] <Tirent> ok
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#2589 [18:04] <Tirent> k heres the link http://pastebin.com/LumRdvRk
#2590 [18:06] <Tirent> did that link work :)
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#2592 [18:07] <xales> sorry, yeah
#2593 [18:07] <xales> can you copy the entire error you get to pastebin?
#2594 [18:08] <Tirent> yeah shure one sec
#2595 [18:08] <Tirent> appreciate helping me btw
#2596 [18:09] <Tirent> http://pastebin.com/J1HvcN5j
#2597 [18:11] <Schumacher> grrr this is driving me crazy
#2598 [18:11] <Tirent> ditto
#2599 [18:11] <Schumacher> lol
#2600 [18:11] <Schumacher> i havent been reading
#2601 [18:11] <Schumacher> whats your problem tirent
#2602 [18:11] <Tirent> um wont even load
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#2604 [18:11] <Schumacher> what wont
#2605 [18:12] <Tirent> ive downloaded the hole internet trying to get minecraft to work
#2606 [18:12] <Schumacher> hey oldtopman
#2607 [18:12] <Schumacher> the client
#2608 [18:12] <oldtopman> 'allo
#2609 [18:12] <Schumacher> or a server
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#2611 [18:12] <Tirent> client it wont even work on the website
#2612 [18:12] <Tirent> gives me error 998 libaryload something
#2613 [18:13] <surfhai> is this "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" the command in linux for starting minecraft?
#2614 [18:13] <Kealper> yes
#2615 [18:13] <Kealper> wait
#2616 [18:13] <xales> no
#2617 [18:13] <Kealper> yes
#2618 [18:13] <xales> just "java (memory args) -jar Minecraft.jar"
#2619 [18:14] <oldtopman> You don't need the frame doohickey
#2620 [18:14] <Kealper> don't need it, but that one he said was copied from the site
#2621 [18:14] <oldtopman> And you forgot the -jar clause
#2622 [18:14] <surfhai> it doesn't work with the frame thing :)
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#2624 [18:14] <surfhai> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar Minecraft.jar
#2625 [18:14] <Kealper> the site says "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" for linux (i know, not needed, but that's what it says)
#2626 [18:14] <oldtopman> presto
#2627 [18:15] <xales> ??> Tirent win/reinst
#2628 [18:15] <surfhai> last time I used "java -jar Minecraft.jar" and the cpu usage was at 100%
#2629 [18:15] <VoxelHead> Tirent: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2630 [18:15] <VoxelHead> Tirent: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2631 [18:15] <xales> surfhai: it doesn't use any more or less CPU if you launch it differently
#2632 [18:15] <Tirent> k will do
#2633 [18:15] <surfhai> ...
#2634 [18:15] <surfhai> Sysinfo for 'tg-nb': Linux 2.6.37-ARCH running KDE Development Platform 4.6.00 (4.6.0), CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Duo CPU T9300 @ 2.50GHz at 2000 MHz (4989 bogomips), HD: 1164/1251GB, RAM: 2218/3014MB, 182 proc's, 9.12h up
#2635 [18:16] <surfhai> my laptop isn't to bad for this
#2636 [18:16] <Schumacher> oldtopman: the memory checked out with no errors
#2637 [18:16] <oldtopman> surfhai try "rm -r ~/.minecraft"
#2638 [18:16] <oldtopman> Schumacher: there goes that idea.
#2639 [18:16] <xales> If it's being power-managed to 2.00GHz, it's probably not fast enough
#2640 [18:17] <surfhai> oO
#2641 [18:17] <Schumacher> oldtopman: right... im running out of ideas pretty quick here
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#2643 [18:17] <oldtopman> Redownload the server. Change the name of the level aswell.
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#2645 [18:18] <Tirent> K i deleted local files and i clicked minecraft.exe and just another error poped up didnt even launch the screen
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#2647 [18:18] <xales> Try redownloading minecraft.exe
#2648 [18:19] <Tirent> k
#2649 [18:19] <oldtopman> And the erroro is... (pastebin.mozilla.org)
#2650 [18:19] <Schumacher> oldtopman: did that twice already =[
#2651 [18:19] <Tirent> witch one do i download the top one or bottom one?
#2652 [18:19] <Tirent> Windows:
#2653 [18:19] <Tirent> Download Minecraft.exe, place it anywhere you want, then run it.
#2654 [18:19] <Tirent> If that version doesn't work for some reason, try this: Minecraft.exe
#2655 [18:19] <oldtopman> Tirent: The one it says to get first (You can read amirite).
#2656 [18:20] <oldtopman> ??
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#2658 [18:20] <Tirent> my bad didnt mean to copy paste that
#2659 [18:21] <oldtopman> The first one.
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#2661 [18:21] <Tirent> k downloaded the first one but what do i use to open the file?
#2662 [18:21] <ssen> I think my Minecraft is broken
#2663 [18:21] <ssen> Can someone help?
#2664 [18:21] <ssen> Why do I never level up?
#2665 [18:21] <ssen> >_>
#2666 [18:22] <mang0> Um
#2667 [18:22] <xales> Tirent: Double click on it?
#2668 [18:22] <mang0> You don't level in mc
#2669 [18:22] <Schumacher> oldtopman: i've tried redownloading and starting from scratch twice btw
#2670 [18:22] <xales> Schumacher: What's the problem now?
#2671 [18:22] <Tirent> it askes me to choose a program to open it
#2672 [18:22] <xales> Tirent: Then you downloaded the wrong file
#2673 [18:23] <Tirent> he said top one ;(
#2674 [18:23] <xales> !client
#2675 [18:23] <xales> use that link
#2676 [18:23] <Tirent> k
#2677 [18:23] <Schumacher> xales: server issue, cant figure out why its lagging so hard/not using the memory alocated to it
#2678 [18:24] <xales> Schumacher: Are you playing on the same computer the server is on?
#2679 [18:24] <Schumacher> xales: nope
#2680 [18:24] <xales> What are the specs of the server computer?
#2681 [18:24] <xales> Is it a VPS?
#2682 [18:24] <Tirent> still just gives me an error in the folder :(
#2683 [18:24] <surfhai> Sysinfo for 'tg-nb': Linux 2.6.37-ARCH running KDE Development Platform 4.6.00 (4.6.0), CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Duo CPU T9300 @ 2.50GHz at 800 MHz (4989 bogomips), HD: 1164/1251GB, RAM: 2931/3014MB, 186 proc's, 9.21h up
#2684 [18:24] <surfhai> it runs at 800Mhz...
#2685 [18:25] <surfhai> thats why it is so slow
#2686 [18:25] <xales> Tirent: As odd as it sounds...check that the time and date on your computer is correct
#2687 [18:26] <Schumacher> xales: http://pastebin.com/bfGX2wVd
#2688 [18:26] <Tirent> time is correct
#2689 [18:26] <xales> Schumacher: That CPU is the issue
#2690 [18:26] <Tirent> it was an hour off
#2691 [18:27] <Tirent> want me to restart?
#2692 [18:27] <Schumacher> xales whats the issue with the cpu?
#2693 [18:27] <xales> Tirent: reinstall Java
#2694 [18:27] <xales> Schumacher: It's too slow
#2695 [18:27] <Tirent> lol witch version 32 or 64 bit?
#2696 [18:27] <Schumacher> tirent: 64 bit
#2697 [18:27] <xales> ^
#2698 [18:27] <Tirent> kk one sec
#2699 [18:28] <Schumacher> tirent: totally wipe out java
#2700 [18:28] <Schumacher> from your computer
#2701 [18:28] <Schumacher> then reinstall the 64 bit version
#2702 [18:28] <Tirent> so /nuke it
#2703 [18:28] <Schumacher> .nuke
#2704 [18:28] <Schumacher> yes
#2705 [18:28] <Schumacher> =]
#2706 [18:28] <Tirent> k 2 sec 238 is hard to come by
#2707 [18:29] <Schumacher> xales: the cpu doesnt even hit 50% on the biggest spikes
#2708 [18:29] <xales> Schumacher: 50% total or 50% in the core Minecraft is using?
#2709 [18:29] <xales> Minecraft can only use 1 core
#2710 [18:29] <oldtopman> Schumacher: ry reinstalling java
#2711 [18:29] <xales> and a 2.0GHz Pentium 3 is not going to cut it for Minecraft
#2712 [18:30] <Tirent> java is now gone ....
#2713 [18:31] <Tirent> installing....
#2714 [18:31] <Schumacher> xales:hmmmm so i had a server running on a pentium dual cpu t3200 @2ghz
#2715 [18:31] <Tirent> done... want me to restart?
#2716 [18:32] <Schumacher> xales: would setting the affinity of MC to just one core
#2717 [18:32] <Schumacher> help do you think
#2718 [18:32] <xales> No
#2719 [18:32] <xales> I guarantee that CPU can't run it without lag
#2720 [18:32] <xales> Kealper: confirm? :P
#2721 [18:32] <Schumacher> lol
#2722 [18:32] <Kealper> EEW
#2723 [18:32] <Schumacher> well that blows =/
#2724 [18:32] <oldtopman> xales: I use a 1.6GHz Celeron M for my server.
#2725 [18:32] <Kealper> 2.0Ghz P3? is that even possible?
#2726 [18:33] <surfhai> if I start minecraft, my laptop uses 100% of the time at 800MHz, is I quit minecraft my laptop runs only 50% of the time at 800MHz
#2727 [18:33] <surfhai> that is not normal
#2728 [18:33] <surfhai> s/uses/runs
#2729 [18:34] <Schumacher> kealper: its a xeon processor http://pastebin.com/bfGX2wVd
#2730 [18:34] <Kealper> oh
#2731 [18:34] <xales> Schumacher: It's a pentium 3 rebranded as a Xeon
#2732 [18:34] <oldtopman> surfhai: Clean out windows.
#2733 [18:34] <xales> Intel does that
#2734 [18:34] <xales> example: Irwindale
#2735 [18:34] <surfhai> oldtopman: I run it under linux
#2736 [18:35] <oldtopman> surfhai: Clean out linux.
#2737 [18:35] <Schumacher> xales i know its just a rebrand lol
#2738 [18:35] <Kealper> i thought you meant a single core 2.0ghz actual P3 lol
#2739 [18:35] <surfhai> mhm, and what should I do?
#2740 [18:35] <oldtopman> surfhai: Which linux distro do you use?
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#2742 [18:35] <Kealper> iwas like "wut?"
#2743 [18:35] <oldtopman> Arch right?
#2744 [18:35] <Schumacher> xales: just specifying because kealper was confused
#2745 [18:35] <surfhai> archlinux
#2746 [18:35] <Kealper> i was*
#2747 [18:35] <Schumacher> see
#2748 [18:35] <Schumacher> lol
#2749 [18:36] <oldtopman> surfhai: and when you start up your computer it is already using %50?
#2750 [18:36] <Tirent> OK i restarted my comp then tried Mincraft the Login screen came up and then after i logged in it downloaded some files and then.... crashed ;(
#2751 [18:36] <Kealper> well...that would probably do fine running a server....sure P3s might suck, but 4 of them is going to make a dent...lol
#2752 [18:36] <xales> Tirent: What was the error this time?
#2753 [18:36] <Tirent> um just added another error in the log thing
#2754 [18:36] <Schumacher> xales said minecraft can only use 1 core
#2755 [18:37] <surfhai> oldtopman: no, it runs 50% the time at 800MHz when I have some programms open, but if I start minecraft it runs 100% of the time at 800MHz
#2756 [18:37] <surfhai> thats not the cpu usage
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#2758 [18:37] <Kealper> the server might only use one core, but the java VM is multithreaded, so it can offload some of it's internal processes on to different cores
#2759 [18:37] <JerTheSmartAlek> Hello.
#2760 [18:37] <Kealper> leaving more cpu time for the minecraft server thread
#2761 [18:38] <oldtopman> JerTheSmartAlek: *buntu sucks. On a side note, tell me the output of "java -v".
#2762 [18:38] <Tirent> well now the login screen comes up thats an improvment ;)
#2763 [18:38] <Schumacher> kealper: well im running into some huge lag spikes that coniside with large numbers of page faults
#2764 [18:38] <Tirent> but still crashs
#2765 [18:38] <xales> Tirent: Can you pastebin the error again?
#2766 [18:38] <Tirent> yeah shure
#2767 [18:39] <JerTheSmartAlek> Just a moment.
#2768 [18:39] <xales> Schumacher: That would be the CPU
#2769 [18:39] <Kealper> Schumacher: how many people are on said server?
#2770 [18:39] <Tirent> http://pastebin.com/n6DD0Efs
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#2772 [18:39] <Schumacher> kealper: lmao 1-2
#2773 [18:40] <jarofsauce> where do i find jeb
#2774 [18:40] <JerTheSmartAlek> oldtopman: Unrecognized option: -v
#2775 [18:40] <JerTheSmartAlek> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
#2776 [18:40] <xales> jarofsauce: Why?
#2777 [18:40] <jarofsauce> my account was hacked
#2778 [18:40] <xales> JerTheSmartAlek: It's "--version"
#2779 [18:40] <JerTheSmartAlek> Yes, I'm still fairly nuubish when it comes to linux.
#2780 [18:40] <xales> jarofsauce: Send an email to support@mojang.com
#2781 [18:40] <Kealper> Schumacher: oh..well then...is that machine a VM? or a dedicated server?
#2782 [18:40] <jarofsauce> i did 3 times, no responce
#2783 [18:40] <jarofsauce> response
#2784 [18:40] <Shadow386> jarofsauce you cant expect a reply in a day
#2785 [18:40] <Shadow386> hes quite busy
#2786 [18:41] <jarofsauce> i sent my first one 2 weeks ago
#2787 [18:41] <Shadow386> oh
#2788 [18:41] <jarofsauce> the second a week ago
#2789 [18:41] <Schumacher> kealper: its a dedicated server
#2790 [18:41] <xales> Send another one. Right now.
#2791 [18:41] <jarofsauce> okay
#2792 [18:41] <oldtopman> JerTheSmartAlek: *buntu sucks. On a side note, tell me the output of "java --version".
#2793 [18:41] <JerTheSmartAlek> Same same, just with another hyphen.
#2794 [18:42] <Tirent> heres the link http://pastebin.com/n6DD0Efs
#2795 [18:42] <xales> Tirent: Create a new account on your computer
#2796 [18:42] <xales> and login with that
#2797 [18:42] <xales> try to play there
#2798 [18:42] <Tirent> oh like a guest?
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#2800 [18:43] <Kealper> Schumacher: sorry for the slow responses from me....have you tried renaming the world folder so you can see if it's just that map?
#2801 [18:43] <Tirent> k ill try
#2802 [18:44] <Schumacher> kealper: no big deal i have but i suppose i could try it again lol
#2803 [18:45] <Schumacher> also about tirent's problem it looks like he has a regestry error
#2804 [18:45] <Kealper> is that server one that is sitting in a datacenter or is it at your house?
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#2806 [18:46] <Schumacher> kealper idk if its in a datacenter or not its sitting in a basement in canada with a bunch of other servers though
#2807 [18:46] <Schumacher> lol
#2808 [18:46] <Diablothein> Kealpybby! <3
#2809 [18:46] <Schumacher> a friend of mine owns it
#2810 [18:46] <tirent2> ok still error -_-
#2811 [18:46] <Kealper> Schumacher: oh...lol
#2812 [18:46] <Schumacher> but he has someone else supplying the power and internet for it
#2813 [18:47] <xales> tirent2: you have two graphics cards, right? SLI/Crossfire?
#2814 [18:47] <Kealper> well...can you be sure the hardware is not causing the problems? (if it's already had this issue with multiple maps)
#2815 [18:47] <tirent2> yup yup
#2816 [18:47] <tirent2> 2 5870's running crossfire
#2817 [18:48] <xales> try disabling it and only using the first card
#2818 [18:48] <Schumacher> kealper: thats what im trying to narrow down can i pm you?
#2819 [18:48] <tirent2> k btw i had minecraft running on this computer before i downloaded java 6
#2820 [18:48] <xales> Schumacher: I actually have a bad feeling it's related to the RAM in the server and the CPU not supporting it properly
#2821 [18:49] <Kealper> xales: that's what i'm wondering myself
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#2823 [18:49] <Kealper> the ram might be corrupt and faulting like a boss
#2824 [18:49] <xales> Kealper: Still nothing on my server <_<
#2825 [18:49] <Kealper> xales: :/
#2826 [18:49] <oldtopman> !paid SaiyanKirby
#2827 [18:49] <xales> Schumacher: Is the CPU x86_64 or IA?
#2828 [18:49] <oldtopman> !paid Kris18
#2829 [18:50] <tirent2> still and error
#2830 [18:50] <xales> tirent2: is it the same error?
#2831 [18:50] <tirent2> only 1 gpu is working right now
#2832 [18:50] <tirent2> error looks the same :) to me
#2833 [18:51] <tirent2> want me to put in the postbin
#2834 [18:51] <xales> yes
#2835 [18:51] <tirent2> what was the site again?
#2836 [18:51] <Schumacher> xales/kealper: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=33079
#2837 [18:51] <tirent2> nvm got it
#2838 [18:51] <Schumacher> tirent: pastbin.com
#2839 [18:51] <oldtopman> xales: What is the internet version of !paid?
#2840 [18:51] <Shadow386> Oooo my video card should be arriving tomorrow of the day afterr
#2841 [18:51] <oldtopman> I need it for a post
#2842 [18:52] <xales> oldtopman: http://minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=derp
#2843 [18:52] <Kealper> wow....12MB of L2....MEH
#2844 [18:52] <Shadow386> lol derp has paid for minecraft
#2845 [18:52] <tirent2> http://pastebin.com/BBKJ5iTT
#2846 [18:52] <xales> Shadow386: that's my second account :3
#2847 [18:52] <Shadow386> gay
#2848 [18:52] <Shadow386> I want to change mine :<
#2849 [18:52] <oldtopman> thanks
#2850 [18:52] <xales> Kealper: http://pastebin.com/BBKJ5iTT
#2851 [18:52] <xales> Shadow386: kidding :P
#2852 [18:52] <xales> oh, Shadow386
#2853 [18:52] <Shadow386> lies
#2854 [18:52] <Shadow386> ?
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#2856 [18:52] <xales> come on the VoxelHead/M partyline
#2857 [18:52] <xales> it's fun :D
#2858 [18:52] <Kealper> xales: ATI driver fail
#2859 [18:53] <Shadow386> go who where?
#2860 [18:53] <MalibU> !paid
#2861 [18:53] <MalibU> !paid oldtopman
#2862 [18:53] <tirent2> ive downloaded and installed the drivers for both cards
#2863 [18:53] <MalibU> !paid chagomass
#2864 [18:54] <MalibU> !paid hyrul
#2865 [18:54] <Kealper> stop spamming the bot
#2866 [18:54] <xales> tirent2: I believe it's a bug with the ATI driver
#2867 [18:54] <xales> the only real solution is to wait for an update/fix or run Minecraft on Linux/BSD
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#2870 [18:55] <tirent2> lol i used an old version of the CCC and it worked and today i updated it and now it dont wokr
#2871 [18:55] <tirent2> worK*
#2872 [18:55] <tirent2> I blame it on rift ...they told me to update :(
#2873 [18:56] <Schumacher> hmmm hey tirent
#2874 [18:56] <Schumacher> do you have DEP enabled
#2875 [18:56] <tirent2> yeah ;)
#2876 [18:56] <tirent2> DEP?
#2877 [18:56] <xales> lol DEP
#2878 [18:56] <xales> terribad D:
#2879 [18:56] <oldtopman> SaiyanKirby: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=35905&p=3202708#p3202708
#2880 [18:57] <Schumacher> data execution prevention
#2881 [18:57] <Schumacher> its a windows setting
#2882 [18:57] <tirent2> i have no idea what your talking about
#2883 [18:57] <Schumacher> tirent: right click on "computer" go to properties
#2884 [18:57] <tirent2> mmk
#2885 [18:57] <Schumacher> click on the advanced tab
#2886 [18:57] <Schumacher> then click on settings
#2887 [18:58] <tirent2> k
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#2889 [18:58] <Schumacher> the the DEP tab
#2890 [18:58] <tirent2> k
#2891 [18:58] <Schumacher> is it on for all programs
#2892 [18:58] <Schumacher> or essential windows blahblahblah
#2893 [18:59] <tirent2> trun on dep for essential windows progams is on
#2894 [18:59] <Schumacher> ??
#2895 [18:59] <Schumacher> okay
#2896 [18:59] <Schumacher> and not for all other programs
#2897 [18:59] <Schumacher> correct
#2898 [18:59] <tirent2> no
#2899 [18:59] <tirent2> noits just on the top
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#2901 [19:00] <Schumacher> kk as long as its set to just the essential windows stuff it blows my theory out of the water =]
#2902 [19:00] <Schumacher> DEP can cause some weird issues
#2903 [19:00] <Schumacher> likereally weird
#2904 [19:00] <tirent2> so its a driver issue with my cards
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#2906 [19:01] <tirent2> i installed the latest CCC and what not ;(
#2907 [19:01] <tirent2> should i just roll back to a older version of CCC?
#2908 [19:01] <Schumacher> you can try it
#2909 [19:02] <tirent2> .../shun rift
#2910 [19:02] <Schumacher> kealper you still here?
#2911 [19:02] <Kealper> Schumacher: yeah...could you confirm that it was not hardware failure that is causing said faults?
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#2913 [19:05] <Schumacher> kealper its not the memory i know what much
#2914 [19:05] <Schumacher> im watching the cpu usage
#2915 [19:05] <Schumacher> and while it was creating the map
#2916 [19:05] <Schumacher> just now
#2917 [19:05] <Schumacher> like i started a new world
#2918 [19:06] <Schumacher> and its running at 25% cpu (or one whole core)
#2919 [19:06] <Schumacher> till it finished making it
#2920 [19:06] <Schumacher> now its down around
#2921 [19:06] <Schumacher> 2-3
#2922 [19:06] <Schumacher> with no one in it
#2923 [19:07] <oldtopman> Want me to try?
#2924 [19:07] <Kealper> Schumacher: and what about when someone gets on it?
#2925 [19:07] <Schumacher> as in join it?
#2926 [19:07] <Schumacher> oldtopman: as in join it?
#2927 [19:08] <oldtopman> Yeah
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#2929 [19:09] <Schumacher> kealper: im on it now and its bounching between 2-9
#2930 [19:09] <Kealper> any lag?
#2931 [19:09] <Kealper> or strange happenings?
#2932 [19:10] <Origami> I keep getting this error on both my operating systems what do I do; java.lang.NullPointerException
#2933 [19:10] <Origami> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.makeCurrent(Display.java:730)
#2934 [19:10] <Origami> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.makeCurrentAndSetSwapInterval(Display.java:896)
#2935 [19:10] <Origami> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.setParent(Display.java:478)
#2936 [19:10] <Origami> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:212)
#2937 [19:10] <Schumacher> taking a while to get blocks and such
#2938 [19:10] <xales> Origami: Update your graphics card driver
#2939 [19:11] <Schumacher> like once you break em
#2940 [19:11] <Schumacher> and then pick them up
#2941 [19:11] <Origami> Thanks xales ill try that
#2942 [19:11] <Kealper> Schumacher: that server runs windows right?
#2943 [19:11] <Schumacher> yeah windows server 2003 sp2
#2944 [19:11] <Kealper> Schumacher: go to http://speedtest.net and run a speed test on that server...
#2945 [19:12] <Kealper> then link the results image in here
#2946 [19:12] <oldtopman> He has 1mb download
#2947 [19:12] <oldtopman> And speedtest.net is fail on him
#2948 [19:12] <Schumacher> yeah its a beast connection
#2949 [19:12] <Kealper> less heresay and more results image
#2950 [19:12] <Schumacher> i cant run speedtest
#2951 [19:12] <Schumacher> on the server
#2952 [19:12] <Kealper> why not?
#2953 [19:13] <Schumacher> dont have the admin privledges to download flash
#2954 [19:13] <Kealper> so it's a shared machine?
#2955 [19:13] <Schumacher> like i said my buddy owns it
#2956 [19:13] <Kealper> and 1mbit down or up is rather slow
#2957 [19:13] <Kealper> if that's what it is
#2958 [19:14] <Kealper> hmm....gimme a sec to check something
#2959 [19:14] <xales> Kealper, I ran a test on a server with the same company
#2960 [19:15] <xales> speedtest said 87mb down, 50-something up
#2961 [19:15] <xales> :3
#2962 [19:15] <Kealper> so it's not garbage internet?
#2963 [19:15] <Schumacher> its a 100megabit host
#2964 [19:15] <xales> indeed
#2965 [19:15] <Kealper> Schumacher: set the process priority of the server process to above normal
#2966 [19:15] <xales> Schumacher: 100megabit connection or 100megabit port
#2967 [19:16] <xales> they are very different
#2968 [19:16] <Kealper> and how many seconds of lag would you say it is?
#2969 [19:17] <Schumacher> kealper it varries
#2970 [19:17] <Schumacher> sometimes its instant
#2971 [19:17] <Schumacher> like no lag
#2972 [19:17] <Schumacher> other times it can take up to like 6 seconds
#2973 [19:18] <Kealper> sounds like internet lag to me...either on your end or the server's end
#2974 [19:18] <Schumacher> it seems like everyone gets the lag but my ping to the server is < 100ms
#2975 [19:18] <Tirent> ok installing an old CCC didnt work eather lol looks like im F'ed
#2976 [19:19] <Kealper> lack of CPU time lag would be like 1 minute or more, internet fail lag is usually around a few seconds
#2977 [19:19] <xales> Schumacher: Latency and connection speed are not related
#2978 [19:20] <Schumacher> so what your saying is i should have my buddy download flash and run a speedtest then yeah
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#2980 [19:21] <floatarious> hey
#2981 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#2983 [19:23] <floatereater> hey i am having trouble registering
#2984 [19:23] <Schumacher> xales/kealper: so i should have my buddy download flash and run a speedtest then yeah
#2985 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes Schumacher
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#2987 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> floatarious - Registering for..
#2988 [19:25] <floatarious> weird
#2989 [19:25] <floatarious> are these messages visible to anyone?
#2990 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2991 [19:25] <floatarious> ok
#2992 [19:25] <floatarious> so i tried to register my nickname on #minecraft
#2993 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email?
#2994 [19:26] <floatarious> I can't get it to work
#2995 [19:26] <floatarious> yes
#2996 [19:26] <floatarious> tried that
#2997 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Then you followed the directions in the email?
#2998 [19:26] <floatarious> never got the email
#2999 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Check your email again
#3000 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Check the junk folder
#3001 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> You should've gotten an email from espernet
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#3004 [19:27] <floatarious> i get push notifications on no email recieved
#3005 [19:27] <floatarious> i'm trying to register my nickname as floatereater
#3006 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> You sure you put in the email address right?
#3007 [19:28] <floatarious> yep
#3008 [19:28] <floatarious> it didn't work the first 2 times, so i double checked everything and sent it again
#3009 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Did you get a response in here when you did /msg nickserv register password email?
#3010 [19:29] <floatarious> no
#3011 [19:29] <floatarious> my message didn't even show up on the screen
#3012 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, try it again. change your nick with /nick newnick
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#3014 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> then -
#3015 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email
#3016 [19:30] <lookatmego> anyone know what this error is: String ArrayList! 19:23:29 [INFO] Malformed String ArrayList! 19:23:29 [INFO] Malformed String ArrayList! 19:23:29 [INFO] Malformed String ArrayList!
#3017 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> lookatmego - Got a full error log somewhere? Could you paste it at www.pastebin.com?
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#3019 [19:32] <floatarious> ok it says it sent the auth code
#3020 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Now check your email
#3021 [19:32] <floatarious> crap
#3022 [19:32] <lookatmego> grey
#3023 [19:32] <floatarious> my nick is still floatarious
#3024 [19:32] <lookatmego> there is no error
#3025 [19:32] <lookatmego> every plugin loads perfect
#3026 [19:32] <lookatmego> and after 15-20 minutes
#3027 [19:32] <lookatmego> starts saying tht error
#3028 [19:32] <lookatmego> and lags the server
#3029 [19:33] <lookatmego> no other error everything works perfectly
#3030 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> floatarious - Not a problem, you can link another nickname to your primary one
#3031 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> /ns help
#3032 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> or rather, /msg nickserv help lin
#3033 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> link
#3034 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> lookatmego - I'm sorry, I'm not really familiar with bukkit. Try #bukkit
#3035 [19:35] <lookatmego> i did
#3036 [19:35] <lookatmego> no 1 would answer me
#3037 [19:35] <lookatmego> they all just ignored me xD
#3038 [19:35] <lookatmego> thanks anyways
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#3042 [19:36] <floatereater> hi
#3043 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> ''lo
#3044 [19:37] <floatarious> alright, so now floatarious can talk in #minecraft, but my linked name floatereater can't
#3045 [19:37] <floatereater> how do i fix this?
#3046 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Did you identify with floatereater?
#3047 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv identify password
#3048 [19:40] <floatarious> it says Syntax: IDENTIFY password
#3049 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> right.. you gotta type that command in right
#3050 [19:41] <floatarious> ok i got it
#3051 [19:41] <floatarious> thank you very much
#3052 [19:41] <floatarious> hopefully it will work now
#3053 [19:42] <floatarious> yay it works
#3054 [19:42] <Schumacher> kealper/xales he wont put flash on the computer so i cant use speedtest.net
#3055 [19:43] <Schumacher> does anyone know any other options
#3056 [19:43] <Schumacher> to test the speed
#3057 [19:43] <BarryCarlyon> Most speed test apps use flash. I don't know of any that dont'
#3058 [19:43] * GreyVulpine shakes
#3058 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> It's kinda the widely accepted method of testing a connection
#3059 [19:44] <BarryCarlyon> Try this http://www.ispgeeks.com/wild/modules.php?name=Bandwidth_Meter_DSL after using GOOGLE!
#3060 [19:44] <Schumacher> barycarlyon = win
#3061 [19:44] <BarryCarlyon> No google = win.
#3062 [19:44] <BarryCarlyon> You = fail.
#3063 [19:45] <Schumacher> just getting run down after spending the entire day on this lmao
#3064 [19:45] <Schumacher> tyvm
#3065 [19:45] <BarryCarlyon> I googled for "speedtest without flash" that was result 4.
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#3067 [19:50] <Schumacher> xales/kealper: so after a ton of tests ~20
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#3069 [19:50] <Schumacher> it looks like its a steady average of 4mbps
#3070 [19:50] <Schumacher> but
#3071 [19:50] <Kealper> that test lies
#3072 [19:50] <Schumacher> i had 1 occurance of 516kps
#3073 [19:50] <Kealper> it says my internet is about 4mbit too
#3074 [19:51] <Schumacher> or some crazy low
#3075 [19:51] <Schumacher> lol
#3076 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Your current bandwidth reading is:
#3077 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> 2.36 Mbps
#3078 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> hah!
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#3080 [19:51] <Kealper> yeah....that test is....not that accurate...lol
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#3082 [19:52] <BarryCarlyon> Just get flash :-D
#3083 [19:52] <BarryCarlyon> Or the speedtest app on a iphone.
#3084 [19:53] <Origami> As directed I installed the newest driver from my Nvidia card and im still getting this error: OpenGL: GeForce 320M/PCI/SSE2 version 3.3.0, NVIDIA Corporation
#3085 [19:53] <Origami> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: input == null!
#3086 [19:53] <Origami> at javax.imageio.ImageIO.read(Unknown Source)
#3087 [19:53] <Origami> at oi.<init>(SourceFile:36)
#3088 [19:53] <Origami> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:277)
#3089 [19:53] <BarryCarlyon> Tho i doubt its reliability.
#3090 [19:53] <BarryCarlyon> Origami: pastebin for pasting.
#3091 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> I can already tell. Windows machine. (!) character in windows login
#3092 [19:53] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#3093 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> only way to fix, make new windows account. Ensure no exclaimation point in username
#3094 [19:54] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: your wisdom is unmastered
#3095 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#3096 [19:54] <Origami> I updated my driver and still get the error http://pastebin.com/QXn233hz
#3097 [19:54] <BarryCarlyon> GreyVulpine: you saying his windows username has a ! in it? I would of thought windows would not allow ! in usernames.
#3098 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> It does
#3099 [19:54] <BarryCarlyon> Didn't think windows was that sh*t.
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#3101 [19:54] <Origami> I dont have a !mark in my username
#3102 [19:54] <Kealper> BarryCarlyon: it allows quite a lot of chars in it
#3103 [19:55] <Origami> I took it out yesterday after someone told me that was what could be messing with it
#3104 [19:55] <BarryCarlyon> I never use special chars so never thoiught about it.
#3105 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Then you changed it, but originally your username had a !
#3106 [19:55] <Kealper> because normally, those chars don't affect windows systems...it's when you get languages that interpret strings as code that it becomes a problem :/
#3107 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> But when you change it, windows doesn't change the (!) character in the user's folder
#3108 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> again. Only way around it right now, is to make a new windows user account
#3109 [19:55] <Origami> K ill get on that lol
#3110 [19:56] <Schumacher> so how do you guys feel about
#3111 [19:56] <Schumacher> http://www.tracert.org/bandwidth_meter/
#3112 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Your current bandwidth reading is:
#3113 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> 2.30 Mbps
#3114 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. I don't think so
#3115 [19:57] <Kealper> still garbage
#3116 [19:57] <Kealper> 5.51mbit
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#3118 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Considering I torrent faster than that..
#3119 [19:57] <hughperkins> 792.70kbps
#3120 [19:59] <BarryCarlyon> Kealper: and or GreyVulpine do you know anything about the response from getversion.jsp I can spot a username and what looks like a timestamp.
#3121 [19:59] <Kealper> BarryCarlyon: iirc it's a session ID
#3122 [20:00] <BarryCarlyon> so timestamp:some hash of password:username:sess_id
#3123 [20:00] <BarryCarlyon> The timestamp appears to be in miliseconds and refers to feb 23rd.
#3124 [20:01] <Kealper> hmm...never actually looked in to it that much
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#3126 [20:01] <BarryCarlyon> Hehe.
#3127 [20:02] * BarryCarlyon checks something
#3127 [20:02] <BarryCarlyon> Feb 23 was date of update just about.
#3128 [20:03] <BarryCarlyon> So timestamp of this version:hashed password (I think its not md5 or sha1):username:session_id:
#3129 [20:03] <BarryCarlyon> Not that I need to deprogram it, I'm doing a "authenticate with MineCraft" sort of thing.
#3130 [20:04] <BarryCarlyon> Yip element two is a password hash. (I change my password resubmitted my form and its different)
#3131 [20:05] <Kealper> O.o
#3132 [20:05] <cc2k> is there a minecraft redstone and building simulatuin thingy?
#3133 [20:05] <BarryCarlyon> Kealper: I mean I changed my password on minecraft.net
#3134 [20:05] <Kealper> BarryCarlyon: yeah, i figured that
#3135 [20:05] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#3136 [20:06] <Kealper> cc2k: MCRedstoneSim or something like that
#3137 [20:06] <cc2k> k..
#3138 [20:06] <BarryCarlyon> Its some weird hashing tho, its just thrown a different hash key for my password. o.0 *confused*
#3139 [20:07] <BarryCarlyon> Meh a non bad login response is enough to work for my needs :-D
#3140 [20:11] <BarryCarlyon> Ah component two is a ticket for downloading client files.
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#3150 [20:28] <cc2k> Kealper its only redstone, but i need also with normal blocks(a sim)
#3151 [20:28] <cc2k> so i can efficiently plan my subways ^^:) includi9ng track switches:)
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#3156 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#3157 [20:46] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.671 seconds.
#3158 [20:46] <oldtopman> !ping
#3159 [20:46] <oldtopman> uh-oh
#3160 [20:46] <EmpiresBane> only people that are trusted are allowed to use it
#3161 [20:47] <EmpiresBane> otherwise, the channel gets spamed
#3162 [20:47] <oldtopman> ah.
#3163 [20:47] <oldtopman> One of these days, It will "oldtopman, your ping time is OVER 9000 SECS"
#3164 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> I think I may have set the timeout to something like 10 seconds
#3165 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Prevents massive flooding
#3166 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Greybot's not advanced enough to do priviledged lists.
#3167 [20:49] <EmpiresBane> hm...
#3168 [20:49] <EmpiresBane> i guess i'm wrong
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#3170 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Nah, it's something I should get around to doing, but never really had a reason to in the years I've had greybot
#3171 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Some commands are limited to myself only.
#3172 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> I just don't remember what
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#3174 [20:52] <oldtopman> !ping
#3175 [20:52] <GreyBot> oldtopman Your Ping time was 0.661 seconds.
#3176 [20:52] <oldtopman> It was a timeout
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#3181 [21:04] * VoxelHead is back
#3181 [21:19] <GLaDOS> !haspaid Bobadilla
#3182 [21:22] <oldtopman> I didn't think that was so bad.
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#3185 [21:26] <VoxelHead> Uh oh, it's miles.
#3186 [21:26] <miles> uh oh?
#3187 [21:27] <miles> I'm triyng to figure out what mod to use now that Hmod is no longer supported.
#3188 [21:28] <xales> bukkit?
#3189 [21:29] <EmpiresBane> VoxelHead is a bot
#3190 [21:29] <EmpiresBane> don't mind him
#3191 [21:30] <miles> haha
#3192 [21:30] <VoxelHead> ah! ah! THE MEAT!! THE HORRIBLE MEAT*^!~^#
#3193 [21:31] <miles> is my question ansewerable?
#3194 [21:33] <xales> bukkit?
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#3198 [21:51] <VoxelHead> bye dreb72
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#3200 [22:02] <Erak> Can anybody help me with this problem? I ran MC with CMD cause I couldn't open it, and this is what it says: http://pastebin.com/06ag50hM
#3201 [22:03] <xales> you are running it incorrectly
#3202 [22:04] <xales> why does the .exe not work?
#3203 [22:04] <Erak> What do I do, then?
#3204 [22:04] <Erak> Idk. I click it. It 'load's. Nothing opens.
#3205 [22:04] <xales> So you click it and nothing happens?
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#3207 [22:04] <VoxelHead> cial you're looking especially shagworthy today
#3208 [22:05] <xales> shut up Voxel
#3209 [22:05] <Erak> yea.
#3210 [22:05] <xales> do you have any antivirus software running?
#3211 [22:05] <Cial> ....
#3212 [22:05] <Erak> Does TuneUp Utilities count?
#3213 [22:05] <xales> I don't know what that is
#3214 [22:06] <Cial> why do all of these bots hit on me
#3215 [22:06] <xales> oh, probably not
#3216 [22:06] <xales> that's not antivirus software
#3217 [22:06] <xales> antivirus software = things like AVG, Norton, McAfee, Avast
#3218 [22:07] <Erak> Idk. I HAD AVG, but it messed up my computer
#3219 [22:07] <Erak> So I restored my syste
#3220 [22:07] <Erak> system*
#3221 [22:07] <xales> but nothing now?
#3222 [22:08] <Erak> yea.
#3223 [22:08] <Erak> Something messed up my iTunes, and Opera Browser too.
#3224 [22:08] <xales> what version of Windows?
#3225 [22:08] <Erak> Win7 x64.
#3226 [22:08] <xales> try uninstalling Java entirely
#3227 [22:08] <xales> then reinstalling it, both 32-bit and 64
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#3229 [22:09] <Erak> The updates too?
#3230 [22:09] <punchies> yeah
#3231 [22:10] <xales> yes
#3232 [22:10] <Erak> Shoot. It's getting late over here. I need to sleep. I'll check back here tmr.
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#3234 [22:10] <xales> ok
#3235 [22:10] <Jackson413> hey something big is up with minecraft security
#3236 [22:11] <Jackson413> spread the word http://forums.mcbans.com/index.php/topic,186.0.html
#3237 [22:11] <Jackson413> there are a whole bunch of minecraft accounts (real ones) leaked
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#3239 [22:11] <Jackson413> change ur password immediately if you see this
#3240 [22:12] <xolotl> Jackson413: also see http://mc.kealper.com/tester/ etc
#3241 [22:13] <Jackson413> what is that
#3242 [22:13] <Jackson413> yeah i checked that
#3243 [22:13] <Jackson413> with dinnerbone.com/minecraft.php
#3244 [22:13] * VoxelHead kicked GreyVulpine from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: nick flood)
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#3272 [22:14] <Jackson413> SOMEONE FIX VOXELHEAD!!!!
#3273 [22:14] * VoxelHead kicked crickets from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
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#3275 [22:14] <VoxelHead> Hey crickets.
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#3277 [22:14] * VoxelHead kicked GreyVulpine from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
#3278 [22:14] <VoxelHead> Meh.
#3279 [22:14] <xales> LOL
#3280 [22:14] <Jackson413> WHAT HAPPENED????
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#3282 [22:14] * VoxelHead kicked GreyVulpine from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
#3283 [22:14] <Jackson413> caps (sry)
#3284 [22:14] <Cial> wow
#3285 [22:14] <VoxelHead> Oh noes it's GreyVulpine T_T.
#3286 [22:15] * ChanServ kicked VoxelHead from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: KICK by GreyVulpine)
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#3289 [22:15] * VoxelHead kicked GreyVulpine from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
#3290 [22:15] <VoxelHead> oh, it's fuckmaster mc shitty white clownhorse ass jacket pubic face.
#3291 [22:15] <VoxelHead> mmm, ops
#3292 [22:15] <Jackson413> what is going on?
#3293 [22:15] <xales> the bots are fucked up
#3294 [22:16] <SkiingPenguins> why not kb voxel for a second
#3295 [22:16] <Jackson413> that isnt just fucked up, it looks like someone hacked it
#3296 [22:16] <xales> it unbans itself
#3297 [22:16] <xales> Jackson413: ...wow, you don't get it..lol
#3298 [22:16] <Jackson413> maybe im stating the obvios
#3299 [22:16] <xales> also, lol "hacked"
#3300 [22:16] <Jackson413> what?
#3301 [22:17] * Jackson413 is in the dark as of...now
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#3302 [22:17] <SkiingPenguins> yay you made it ^.^
#3303 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#3304 [22:17] <Jackson413> what happened?
#3305 [22:17] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead.
#3305 [22:17] <Jackson413> seriously what happeneD?
#3306 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Was changing greybot's nick when it triggered VoxelHead's nick flood script
#3307 [22:18] <SkiingPenguins> why cant they have exceptions for each other
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#3309 [22:19] <VoxelHead> are you here to fumigate the moose testicle?
#3310 [22:19] <xales> Voxel, yes, yes I am
#3311 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, we sorta have 1.. 2, 3 bots here?
#3312 [22:19] <SkiingPenguins> wow.
#3313 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Here goes nothing
#3314 [22:23] <EmpiresBane> i am disappointed i missed that
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#3316 [22:23] <VoxelHead> uh oh, it's elexor
#3317 [22:23] <SkiingPenguins> OMG IT WAS NOTHING INDEED!
#3318 [22:24] <oldtopman> lol @ bots
#3319 [22:29] <VoxelHead> i like them =D
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#3321 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x9YBxyhTlk
#3322 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Dubya tee eff
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#3324 [22:36] <Chaze007> quick question..
#3325 [22:37] <Chaze007> does anyone know the /give command for colored wool?
#3326 [22:37] <VoxelHead> Wee... do that again.
#3327 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Not possible with vanilla
#3328 [22:38] <Chaze007> is there a channel for modhelp?
#3329 [22:38] <Chaze007> I'm using singleplayer commands :P
#3330 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft then
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#3333 [22:39] <VoxelHead> Hi yo~
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#3335 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#3336 [22:40] <figaro> so I am trying to buy minecraft but it wont accept my creditcard
#3337 [22:40] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#3338 [22:40] <figaro> any help?
#3339 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Why won't it accept it?
#3340 [22:40] <figaro> I dont know
#3341 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> What is it giving you?
#3342 [22:41] <figaro> just saying it didn't work
#3343 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> What exactly is the error message?
#3344 [22:41] <figaro> one sec
#3345 [22:43] <figaro> Transaction error An error occured and your purchase was not completed Message from server: server error (contact Verifyeasy) If you need to contact the shop please use the following reference
#3346 [22:43] <xales> Try using Paypal
#3347 [22:43] <figaro> lol ok
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#3349 [22:47] <VoxelHead> Hay aetherian whats goin on.
#3350 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#3351 [22:47] <VoxelHead> *goes to find someone more interesting to talk to*
#3352 [22:48] <EmpiresBane> does that actually quite him?
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#3354 [22:48] <EmpiresBane> *quiet
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#3357 [22:48] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: ...and don't come back.)
#3358 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> used to
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#3360 [22:48] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: ...and don't come back.)
#3361 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> I think I need to kick dopeghoti for putting that script on VoxelHead.
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#3368 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#3369 [22:49] <aetherian> oh that's rich
#3370 [22:49] <xales> ._.
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#3373 [22:49] <aetherian> hello, vox
#3374 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> dubya tee eff
#3375 [22:49] <aetherian> ,3
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#3378 [22:49] <aetherian> eh heh heh heh
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#3380 [22:51] <aetherian> hey bildry
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#3382 [22:53] <dopeghoti> um
#3383 [22:53] <dopeghoti> what's going on?
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#3390 [22:55] <Chr|s> dunno
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#3392 [22:55] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: ...and don't come back.)
#3393 [22:55] <Chr|s> just logged in
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#3395 [22:55] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: ...and don't come back.)
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#3397 [22:55] <dopeghoti> GLaDOS: looks like you were matching a ban. I've added an exemption.
#3398 [22:55] <EmpiresBane> i'm thinking maybe you shouldn't have Voxel unban himself
#3399 [22:56] <xales> dopeghoti: I did that intentionally.
#3400 [22:56] <GLaDOS> note to self: clean shit up
#3401 [22:56] <dopeghoti> Was GLaDOS being naughty?
#3402 [22:56] * GLaDOS gets broom out
#3402 [22:56] <xales> dopeghoti: pretty much
#3403 [22:56] <GLaDOS> dopeghoti: secret shit your rank doesnt know about
#3404 [22:56] <GLaDOS> and no, it was a vote
#3405 [22:56] <dopeghoti> to ban you from #MineCraftHelp?
#3406 [22:56] <GLaDOS> an unofficial vote
#3407 [22:56] <xales> dopeghoti: all Minecraft channels
#3408 [22:57] <GLaDOS> no, from all community owned channels
#3409 [22:57] <xales> GLaDOS: Who says an op has to start it? Nobody
#3410 [22:57] <GLaDOS> xales: dont make me go derp on you
#3411 [22:57] <xales> you are just being extremely immature. grow the fuck up
#3412 [22:57] <GLaDOS> *sigh*
#3413 [22:58] <Chr|s> And you are an Operator. That is kind of scary :(
#3414 [22:58] * Chr|s hides
#3414 [22:58] <EmpiresBane> hm.... i gots an idea
#3415 [22:58] <GLaDOS> oh great, now people are scared of me ._.
#3416 [22:58] <GLaDOS> EmpiresBane: hmm?
#3417 [22:59] <EmpiresBane> oh, nothing to do with you
#3418 [22:59] <EmpiresBane> or anyone else
#3419 [22:59] <EmpiresBane> but if it's successful, you'll see the results
#3420 [22:59] <GLaDOS> you're going to try and akick me, aren't you.
#3421 [23:00] <EmpiresBane> no
#3422 [23:00] <EmpiresBane> i'm not a dick
#3423 [23:00] <EmpiresBane> and i rarely use my op powers
#3424 [23:00] <GLaDOS> oh thank god
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#3426 [23:02] * aetherian is confused by now
#3426 [23:02] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: Vote in MC channel)
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#3428 [23:03] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: Vote in MC channel)
#3429 [23:03] <aetherian> o.o
#3430 [23:03] <Chr|s> lol
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#3432 [23:03] <xales> why isn't it actually banning? dumb thing
#3433 [23:03] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: Vote in MC channel)
#3434 [23:03] <aetherian> VoxelHead: quit being so mean...
#3435 [23:03] <Chr|s> was that your idea?
#3436 [23:04] <aetherian> so uh wait, what actually happened here o.o
#3437 [23:04] * ChanServ kicked VoxelHead from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: AKICK by GLaDOS)
#3438 [23:04] <xales> GLaDOS is just being immature, as always
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#3440 [23:04] <aetherian> oh
#3441 [23:04] <aetherian> okay
#3442 [23:04] <GLaDOS> xales: i told you to stop abusing bots
#3443 [23:04] <xales> GLaDOS: You are the one abusing them. Stay the fuck out
#3444 [23:05] <GLaDOS> *sigh*
#3445 [23:05] <GLaDOS> aetherian: to you, who does it look like is abusing stuff to get their own way
#3446 [23:05] <aetherian> meep
#3447 [23:05] <xales> GLaDOS: We voted to ban you, accept it. Stop fucking around. Grow up
#3448 [23:05] <GLaDOS> me/xales/both/none
#3449 [23:05] <xales> It's unbelievable how childing you are acting
#3450 [23:05] <aetherian> I don't know the backstory
#3451 [23:06] <GLaDOS> if you did, we'd have to kill you
#3452 [23:06] <aetherian> exactly
#3453 [23:06] <xales> childish*
#3454 [23:06] <GLaDOS> from the front, who does it look like
#3455 [23:06] <Chr|s> I don't know whats going on, but immaturity isn't cool in my opinon, either way. Not cool to see an operator of a channel act like this.
#3456 [23:06] <aetherian> it looks like vox is abusing stuff
#3457 [23:06] <aetherian> from the front
#3458 [23:06] <GLaDOS> voxel is a bot
#3459 [23:06] <GLaDOS> derp
#3460 [23:06] <aetherian> I know...
#3461 [23:06] * ngc0202 [ngc0202@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3462 [23:06] <aetherian> you said from the /front/
#3463 [23:06] <GLaDOS> dopeghoti: mind removing xales' access to Voxel?
#3464 [23:07] <dopeghoti> Why?
#3465 [23:07] <GLaDOS> he's abusing it
#3466 [23:07] <xales> GLaDOS: You are banned. Grow up. Nobody is abusing anything, other than you abusing ChanServ, because you are too immature to accept you are banned and deal with it
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#3468 [23:07] <GLaDOS> no, no
#3469 [23:07] <xales> Yes
#3470 [23:07] <GLaDOS> the vote was for #minecraft
#3471 [23:07] <GLaDOS> not here
#3472 [23:07] <GLaDOS> derp
#3473 [23:07] <xales> No, it was for all channels
#3474 [23:07] <aetherian> wait, why was he supposedly banned?
#3475 [23:08] <GLaDOS> xales: may I ask who gave this permission
#3476 [23:08] <GLaDOS> aetherian: Iguana randomly threw a joke vote
#3477 [23:08] <GLaDOS> everyone said yex
#3478 [23:08] <Iguana> hi
#3479 [23:08] <GLaDOS> xales took it seriously
#3480 [23:08] <xales> GLaDOS: It wasn't a joke, moron
#3481 [23:08] <Iguana> glados, im sorry my love
#3482 [23:08] <GLaDOS> blah blah
#3483 [23:08] <xales> go ahead, ask them
#3484 [23:08] <AG_Scott> oh boy
#3485 [23:08] <aetherian> uh oh
#3486 [23:08] <AG_Scott> Drammmmaaaaaaaaaaa!
#3487 [23:08] <Tarazed> ...waits to ask her question until after
#3488 [23:09] <aetherian> aaahhhh
#3489 [23:09] <Chr|s> indeed
#3490 [23:09] <AG_Scott> Minecraft IRC.
#3491 [23:09] <Tarazed> and I fail at /me
#3492 [23:09] <xales> GLaDOS: Nobody needs to give permission to start a vote. You are changing the rules to suit you, because you are too immature to accept that you are banned.
#3493 [23:09] <aetherian> Tarazed: smart move
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#3495 [23:09] <AG_Scott> ABC's next big hit with grammys.
#3496 [23:09] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: Vote in MC channel)
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#3498 [23:09] <VoxelHead> muwahahahahahaha
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#3500 [23:09] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: Vote in MC channel)
#3501 [23:09] <aetherian> wait, who owns this channel?
#3502 [23:09] <aetherian> from the start, that is
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#3504 [23:09] * VoxelHead kicked GLaDOS from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Banned: Vote in MC channel)
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#3506 [23:09] <EmpiresBane> Iguana part of an argument? This is unheard of.
#3507 [23:09] <VoxelHead> Are you here to fumigate the moose head?
#3508 [23:09] <xales> aetherian: TrueWolves
#3509 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Truewolves does
#3510 [23:09] <aetherian> mmk
#3511 [23:09] <EmpiresBane> aetherian, TrueWolves
#3512 [23:09] <aetherian> just wonderin'
#3513 [23:10] <AG_Scott> The minecraft channels are managed by a group of people though.
#3514 [23:10] <Iguana> indeed
#3515 [23:10] <AG_Scott> It's like a board.
#3516 [23:10] <EmpiresBane> I believe LG was next to be opped
#3517 [23:10] <EmpiresBane> then me, somebody else, and some chick
#3518 [23:10] <xales> GreyVulpine is 2IC right now, I believe
#3519 [23:10] <aetherian> xales: I know a good way to solve this
#3520 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#3521 [23:10] <Chr|s> me too
#3522 [23:10] <EmpiresBane> could have been someone else before me, but i don't remember
#3523 [23:10] <aetherian> call another vote.
#3524 [23:11] <eskimo> Im trying to set up a server but I am inside my colleges network. how do I let other people connect to the server if they are outside of the network? all ip's that i've tried dont work. thanks
#3525 [23:11] <EmpiresBane> why did people even vote?
#3526 [23:11] <aetherian> if it's still yes, then fine
#3527 [23:11] <aetherian> eskimo: portforwarding
#3528 [23:11] <aetherian> but
#3529 [23:11] <eskimo> i dont use a router
#3530 [23:11] <xales> eskimo: If you are behind NAT, there is nothing you can do
#3531 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> eskimo - It really depends on your college's setup.
#3532 [23:11] <aetherian> ^
#3533 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Some setups, you can't do
#3534 [23:11] <eskimo> so im fucked? lol
#3535 [23:11] <AG_Scott> You can ask ITS to give you a static publicly routed IP.
#3536 [23:11] <aetherian> yep
#3537 [23:11] <VoxelHead> static publicly, got it.
#3538 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> There's just no way about it, unless you're in bed with the IP head guy/gal
#3539 [23:12] <eskimo> challenge accepted
#3540 [23:12] <EmpiresBane> ew...
#3541 [23:12] <aetherian> o.o
#3542 [23:12] <AG_Scott> Or you can quit living on campus.
#3543 [23:12] <AG_Scott> :>
#3544 [23:12] <eskimo> thanks for the help!
#3545 [23:12] <VoxelHead> :-)
#3546 [23:12] * GreyVulpine snrks
#3546 [23:19] <Bane> hm...
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#3548 [23:36] <EmpiresBane> wait... so what's happening to GLaDoS?
#3549 [23:36] <xales> we'll let you know when it's final
#3550 [23:36] <xales> but at the moment, it looks like he is getting banned from everything Minecraft-related
#3551 [23:36] <EmpiresBane> ok...
#3552 [23:44] <xales> and it seems final now
#3553 [23:44] <xales> ._.
#3554 [23:45] <EmpiresBane> do you guys have some special channel that you all talk in?
#3555 [23:47] <xales> yeah, there's a channel that's primarly for running #minecraft
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#3557 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> !calc 1.92*1024/8
#3558 [23:53] <crickets> Answer: 245.76
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#3561 [23:56] <Bob_Sack> most useful bot command ever
#3562 [23:56] <xales> !calc meaning of life
#3563 [23:56] <crickets> Answer: 42
#3564 [23:56] <aetherian> !calc e^pi*i
#3565 [23:56] <crickets> Answer: 0
#3566 [23:56] <aetherian> fail
#3567 [23:57] <aetherian> er wait, it should be
#3568 [23:57] <aetherian> !calc e^(pi*sqrt(-1))
#3569 [23:57] <crickets> Answer: 0
#3570 [23:57] <EmpiresBane> !calc i
#3571 [23:57] <crickets> Answer: 0
#3572 [23:57] <aetherian> >:
#3573 [23:57] <aetherian> !calc e
#3574 [23:57] <crickets> Answer: 0
#3575 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, just needed a quick calculator. Japan's EAC submarine cable had a break. System was capable of providing 1.92 tb/sec
#3576 [23:57] <EmpiresBane> it doesn't have variables
#3577 [23:58] <EmpiresBane> tb?
#3578 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> terabits
#3579 [23:58] <aetherian> that's a lot.
#3580 [23:58] <EmpiresBane> oh, that kind of cable