#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> That's a client jar, did you want the server?
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#3 [00:00] <Chr|s> blah yeah
#4 [00:00] <Chr|s> I see it now, nvm lol
#5 [00:02] <Chr|s> is it best to use screen program?
#6 [00:02] * GreyVulpine nods...
#6 [00:03] <Chr|s> getting back to command line, haven't used it in foreve
#7 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Nothing to it.
#8 [00:05] <Kealper> except...don't DC from ssh while your server's screen is still attached...unless you attack screen's config
#9 [00:05] <Chr|s> yeah
#10 [00:06] <Chr|s> hmm can't get it started fo some reason getting "Unable to access jarfile Minecraft.jar"
#11 [00:06] <Chr|s> doh
#12 [00:06] <Chr|s> wrong jar file
#13 [00:06] <Kealper> i hate it when that happens when i've got irssi attached...and i'm too lazy to stop screen to configure it to not do that :/
#14 [00:06] <Chr|s> ahh I remember irssi
#15 [00:06] <Chr|s> great irc client
#16 [00:06] <Kealper> <3 irssi
#17 [00:07] * relsqui hugs irssi
#17 [00:08] <Chr|s> ok this im not sure about "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
#18 [00:08] <Chr|s> minecraft-server.jar
#19 [00:08] <Chr|s> oops
#20 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#21 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> minecraft-server.jar = classic
#22 [00:08] <Kealper> !server
#23 [00:09] <Chr|s> yeah I got that already its in my minecraft/server folder
#24 [00:09] <Chr|s> which I am in
#25 [00:09] <Chr|s> using "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar minecraft-server.jar" to start it up
#26 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> minecraft-server.jar == the free, classic, creative server
#27 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> it's distinctly different from minecraft_server.jar , which is the premium, beta, survival server
#28 [00:10] <Chr|s> ahh or I did a typo..
#29 [00:12] <Chr|s> that worked
#30 [00:12] <Chr|s> GreyVulpine, you were right, was using wrong file.
#31 [00:13] * GreyVulpine nods
#31 [00:15] <Chr|s> wow big difference :D
#32 [00:16] <Chr|s> now to hide the ip..
#33 [00:18] <Chr|s> never did a dedicated server before or vds/vps quite interesting
#34 [00:18] <Kealper> hmm....now to just customize nicklist's colors.....
#35 [00:18] <Chr|s> not even sure how to host a website or add a voice chat program
#36 [00:19] <Chr|s> very interesting! http://www.vps-tutorial.info/2010/11/28/set-up-a-minecraft-smp-server-on-ubuntu-2/
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#38 [00:20] <Kealper> O.o
#39 [00:20] <Chr|s> talk about a easy set up lol
#40 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> You're one of the few that we've seen that say that..
#41 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Some people just want to double click on an icon, and having up and running..
#42 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> port forwarding and all.
#43 [00:24] <Kealper> most are like "LOL LINIX...WAT HAPPENED!? SOMEONE TOLD ME TO TYPE RM -RF ~/ AND NOW EVERYTHING IS GONE?!"
#44 [00:25] <Kealper> except with more question marks
#45 [00:25] <aetherian> lol
#46 [00:26] <aetherian> rm -rf / is better than rm -rf ~/
#47 [00:26] <Kealper> rm -rf / is painful, rm -rf ~/ is just good fun
#48 [00:27] <Kealper> and i'm 90% sure you don't need to sudo to wipe your home directory
#49 [00:28] <Kealper> i should go through and clean out my logs.... #minecraft is at about 50mb right now
#50 [00:29] <Kealper> why can't i delete that over ftp >.>
#51 [00:29] <EmpiresBane> oh boy...
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#53 [00:29] <EmpiresBane> my computer believes my phone is a CD-ROM drive
#54 [00:30] <Kealper> o.o
#55 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#56 [00:31] <Chr|s> lol
#57 [00:31] <Chr|s> this may make me want to go back to linux no joke
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#59 [00:33] <eDRoaCH> ok i bought the game today, and just played for an hour and started to get somewhere... and now blackscreen
#60 [00:34] <Kealper> computer specs?
#61 [00:34] <eDRoaCH> im sure this questions been asked 50x before by what i see on google, just not sure I trust downloading random 'fixes'
#62 [00:34] <eDRoaCH> intel quadcore, 8gb ram, win7 ultl 64
#63 [00:34] <Kealper> tried reinstalling java?
#64 [00:35] <eDRoaCH> havent done anything yet, wasnt sure where to begin
#65 [00:35] <eDRoaCH> i started a new lvl and it isnt black
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#67 [00:39] <aetherian> I rm -rf / a vm once...
#68 [00:39] <eDRoaCH> reinstalled java, no luck
#69 [00:39] <Kealper> it's consistently going black?
#70 [00:39] <eDRoaCH> i still get my item bar at the bottom, my inventory opens fine
#71 [00:40] <aetherian> are you dying?
#72 [00:40] <eDRoaCH> i heard there is a button that lets you see thru walls? I dont want to cheat but maybe itll fix
#73 [00:40] <eDRoaCH> my savegame did
#74 [00:40] <Chr|s> so now, plugins. what are some good ones. also how many people should I allow to join
#75 [00:40] <Kealper> uhh.....wait... eDRoaCH you can still see the HUD?
#76 [00:40] <eDRoaCH> yup
#77 [00:40] <Kealper> that's.....odd.....
#78 [00:41] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: ever heard of that one?
#79 [00:41] <eDRoaCH> im in a cave with prob 6 torches w/in easy view, it should not be black
#80 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#81 [00:41] <Kealper> his game goes black but he can still see the HUD elements
#82 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Nighttime?
#83 [00:41] <eDRoaCH> i had everything graphics wise on max. i have messed with that to no avail, also restarted the game many times
#84 [00:41] <Kealper> in range of torches
#85 [00:41] <eDRoaCH> in a cave with torches
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#87 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#88 [00:42] <eDRoaCH> it flashes the wireframe for half a sec when i load
#89 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> And this game has been updated to the latest revision? 1.3?
#90 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> or rather, 1.3_01
#91 [00:42] <eDRoaCH> just bought it today, just finished my 1st hr of playing
#92 [00:42] <eDRoaCH> i also hit force update on one of the restarts
#93 [00:43] <Kealper> out of curiosity...how long has it been since you restarted?
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#95 [00:43] <eDRoaCH> my pc?
#96 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> I don't think I've heard of anything like that happening before.
#97 [00:43] <eDRoaCH> like.. er... forever?
#98 [00:43] <aetherian> heh
#99 [00:43] <eDRoaCH> Windows uptime: [6wks 4days 11hrs 45mins 26secs] Best: [7wks 3days 1hr 37mins 38secs] IRC online timer: [11mins 49secs]
#100 [00:43] <Kealper> try restarting it, see if that fixes
#101 [00:43] <aetherian> you may want to
#102 [00:43] <Kealper> it...
#103 [00:44] <eDRoaCH> i should say i started a new lvl and i get view in that one
#104 [00:44] <aetherian> windows needs its rests, even if they are power naps
#105 [00:44] <Kealper> yeah, windows does not like to stay on forever
#106 [00:44] <aetherian> I wonder...
#107 [00:44] <Kealper> it usually likes to be restarted every once in a while
#108 [00:45] <aetherian> can minecraft run on haiku, aetherian muses
#109 [00:45] <Kealper> which reminds me....i should go restart my server for some driver updates
#110 [00:45] <eDRoaCH> see tho why would anotehr level work
#111 [00:45] <eDRoaCH> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/79848/BlackCraft.jpg
#112 [00:45] <Kealper> aetherian: that wasn't a haiku though
#113 [00:45] <aetherian> .-.
#114 [00:45] <Kealper> wait
#115 [00:45] <Kealper> my monitor's epic gamma saves the day! (ish)
#116 [00:46] <Kealper> it's not black
#117 [00:46] <Kealper> it's just dark
#118 [00:46] <Kealper> and i don't see any placed torches
#119 [00:46] <eDRoaCH> uh wow
#120 [00:46] <eDRoaCH> it started working
#121 [00:46] <eDRoaCH> i didnt do anything but go back to it
#122 [00:46] <Kealper> O.o
#123 [00:46] <Kealper> lighting engine fail?
#124 [00:47] <Kealper> methinks it's time for a computer restart :P
#125 [00:47] <eDRoaCH> OOOOOOOOOOOOH
#126 [00:47] <eDRoaCH> i see what happened
#127 [00:47] <eDRoaCH> the game revered to an earlier time
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#129 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> O.o
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#131 [00:47] <eDRoaCH> stuff i knwo i cleared out is now back
#132 [00:48] <eDRoaCH> and what fixed it was i had A held down which drifted me back into light
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#134 [01:08] <aetherian> heya aubot :D
#135 [01:08] <aetherian> heya VoxelHead :D
#136 [01:08] <eDRoaCH> ya that bug was super weird. i started the tunnel in the corner of my house. could not find the exit, thought 'oh well im lost' and hack my way to the top- no hole in my house
#137 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Possibly a chunk error?
#138 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Maybe a chunk got regenerated, corrupted?
#139 [01:09] <eDRoaCH> honestly that was the end of my 1st hr playing, i have no clue how this game works yet other than a few lets plays
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#141 [01:15] <Xerati> !check minecraft.hatchet724.net
#142 [01:24] <Chr|s> on linux server, where is best place to install and best way to start it up, while not using root
#143 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Use screen, and any account will do, as long as you chown the minecraft server files to it
#144 [01:26] <Chr|s> a friend told me to install webmin lol
#145 [01:26] <Chr|s> currently..its in the root folder
#146 [01:26] <Chr|s> thinking I should isntall it to home
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#148 [01:28] <Chr|s> idk, just don't want things to screw up and be able to do thsi right lol
#149 [01:28] <xolotl> Chr|s: In general you don't want to run things as root
#150 [01:28] <Chr|s> indeed
#151 [01:28] <Kealper> it's bad practice
#152 [01:28] <xolotl> Chr|s: Put it in the homedir of any user account
#153 [01:28] <Chr|s> trying to not do it
#154 [01:28] <Chr|s> yeah
#155 [01:29] <Chr|s> but can't cd to home folder
#156 [01:29] <aetherian> my internet is teh fail
#157 [01:29] <Chr|s> road runner?
#158 [01:29] <xolotl> Chr|s: What's the actual error?
#159 [01:29] <aetherian> I should be getting 500KB+ download, but I'm getting 30-50 KB >.>
#160 [01:29] <Kealper> random: setting VLC to use DirectX video output and telling it to use GPU acceleration for video decoding = awesome
#161 [01:29] <Chr|s> No error, server runs fine, just don't want to run it as root in the root folder
#162 [01:30] <xolotl> Chr|s: Right, what's the error when trying to cd to a home folder?
#163 [01:31] <Chr|s> cd: ./home: No such file or directory
#164 [01:31] <Kealper> ~/
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#166 [01:31] <xolotl> Chr|s: Yeah, to cd to your own home directory just "cd ~"
#167 [01:31] <Chr|s> yeah did that too
#168 [01:31] <xolotl> Chr|s: To cd to the /home directory (which stores all the individual user directories) use "cd /home" (without that initial .)
#169 [01:32] <Chr|s> ahh
#170 [01:32] <Chr|s> cd /home worked
#171 [01:32] <Chr|s> doh
#172 [01:32] <Chr|s> weird that cd ~/ wouldn't do it
#173 [01:32] <xolotl> "cd ./home" would try to change to a "home" directory present at your current directory, if that makes sense
#174 [01:32] <xolotl> Chr|s: Well, your home directory is not supposed to be /home
#175 [01:32] <xolotl> Chr|s: run "whoami"
#176 [01:32] <Chr|s> root
#177 [01:32] <VoxelHead> Rooooooooooot.
#178 [01:33] <Kealper> lol
#179 [01:33] <Chr|s> lol
#180 [01:33] <xolotl> Chr|s: kk, so you're still root. run "ls /home", are there any user directories in there?
#181 [01:33] <Chr|s> just says user
#182 [01:33] <xolotl> Chr|s: tru
#183 [01:33] <xolotl> er
#184 [01:33] <xolotl> Chr|s: try "su - user"
#185 [01:33] <xolotl> (your user's name seems to be "user"; you may actually want to change that 'cause it'll be confusing later. :)
#186 [01:34] <xolotl> Another tip: you can use "pwd" to find out your current directory
#187 [01:34] <xolotl> (if it's not already clear from your command prompt)
#188 [01:34] <Chr|s> k
#189 [01:34] <xolotl> (and Ctrl-D would log out out of the user that you just su'd to)
#190 [01:35] <Chr|s> unknown id user lol
#191 [01:35] <Chr|s> I ran "su - user"
#192 [01:36] <xolotl> k, as root just run this: adduser -c "Minecraft User" -m minecraft
#193 [01:37] <Chr|s> unknown option m
#194 [01:37] <xolotl> Ah, your adduser script must be different
#195 [01:37] <xolotl> What distro?
#196 [01:37] <Chr|s> ubuntu 10.10
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#198 [01:39] <xolotl> okay, looks like you can just use: adduser --disabled-password --gecos "Minecraft User" minecraft
#199 [01:39] <xolotl> Chr|s: Also, get used to reading manpages. "man adduser" for instance will let you know all the options you'd be able to use
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#201 [01:40] <Chr|s> ok
#202 [01:40] <Chr|s> added
#203 [01:40] <Chr|s> thanks
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#205 [01:40] <xolotl> Chr|s: k, now you should be able to "su - minecraft" and do stuff in there
#206 [01:40] <xolotl> And you should notice a /home/minecraft directory
#207 [01:41] <xolotl> you may want to "grep user /etc/passwd" to find out what the deal is with that /home/user directory
#208 [01:41] <Chr|s> ok
#209 [01:42] <Chr|s> ok ran that command, didn't do anything
#210 [01:42] <xolotl> the grep, or the su?
#211 [01:43] <Chr|s> the "su -minecraft" gave me options
#212 [01:43] <xolotl> Chr|s: note the space after the dash
#213 [01:43] <Chr|s> ahh ok now logged in as minecraft
#214 [01:44] <Chr|s> if I want to rename the user how do I do that?
#215 [01:45] <xolotl> Chr|s: If you haven't actually done anything with it yet, it's probably easiest for you to just delete it and add a new one
#216 [01:45] <Chr|s> k
#217 [01:45] <xolotl> Chr|s: "man userdel" for details on that util
#218 [01:45] <Chr|s> yeah im learning cmd line again, its beena while
#219 [01:47] <Chr|s> so I can do userdel -f Minecraft User
#220 [01:47] <Chr|s> err how do I get out of man page?
#221 [01:48] <xolotl> Chr|s: Q
#222 [01:48] <Chr|s> kk
#223 [01:48] <xolotl> Chr|s: You can search inside a manpage by hitting "/" and then typing what you want to search for
#224 [01:48] <xolotl> Chr|s: It's much more likely to be: userdel -f minecraft
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#226 [01:51] <Chr|s> hmm not letting me lol
#227 [01:51] <DopeGhoti> define 'not letting'
#228 [01:51] <Chr|s> The command could not be located because '/usr/sbin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
#229 [01:51] <xolotl> Chr|s: Are you still logged in as "minecraft" ?
#230 [01:52] <DopeGhoti> wow, that's.. helpful actually. what's the output of `whoami`?
#231 [01:52] <Chr|s> yes
#232 [01:52] <xolotl> Chr|s: Right, you can only run userdel as root
#233 [01:52] <xolotl> Chr|s: Logout with "exit" or "logout" or Ctrl-D, and you'll be back as root (since you had been root but then used "su" to become the minecraft user)
#234 [01:53] <Chr|s> k logged out lol
#235 [01:53] <xolotl> Chr|s: (also, always always include the actual error when you've got problems with stuff, rather than just saying stuff like "not letting me")
#236 [01:53] <xales> :<
#237 [01:53] <Chr|s> yeah thats what followed is the actual problem
#238 [01:53] <xales> I just catted all of my logfiles and gnupg still not like me
#239 [01:53] <xales> :<
#240 [01:53] <xolotl> One of the great things about working in CLI stuff is that getting exact errors is typically trivial, and very helpful for folks who are, um, helping. :)
#241 [01:54] <xolotl> Chr|s: Yeah, was just saying in general. :)
#242 [01:56] <xales> xolotl: Do you remember GnuPG being a serious ass about entropy before? I don't remember having issues with it :|
#243 [01:56] <xales> I just compiled eggdrop with -pipe 3 times now, and it still thinks the entropy pool is insufficient
#244 [01:56] <xolotl> xales: I have had gnupg complain about entropy fairly often. :)
#245 [01:57] * xolotl slaps himself for smiley use
#245 [01:57] <xolotl> Been slipping into a bad smiley habit lately.
#246 [01:57] <Kealper> it's ok, i've been in an lol habbit forever now
#247 [01:57] <xales> I'm usually able to fix it with a `cat *` in my logs window, but that didn't help :<
#248 [01:57] <xales> Kealper: lol
#249 [01:57] <Kealper> it's true :P
#250 [01:57] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: no one looks at you strangeley for laughing so much?
#251 [01:58] <Kealper> some have pointed it out to me before lol
#252 [01:58] <Kealper> so....the ati drivers do some crazy windows voodoo
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#254 [01:59] <Kealper> and like...turn off the windows DE for a sec...so you get taken to a fullscreen terminal for half a sec while it restarts the DE
#255 [01:59] <xales> seriously...all that, and only 63 bytes? D:
#256 [01:59] <Kealper> turns off*
#257 [02:01] <Kealper> rather strange seeing a windows machine have just a terminal
#258 [02:02] <Chr|s> Appreciate all of your help, just sayin :D
#259 [02:04] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: just goes to show, despite all MS's protestations, there's still some DOS code in Windows.
#260 [02:04] <DopeGhoti> (or at least, terminal interface)
#261 [02:05] <Kealper> i doubt it's DOS code, but i have no doubt NT has a terminal underneath all this UI
#262 [02:06] <Kealper> but it's kinda cool how ATI uses whatever strangeness to totally restart windows' desktop enviroment so you don't need to restart after updating drivers
#263 [02:10] <aetherian> god dammit
#264 [02:10] <aetherian> I still can't, after all this time, get java to install/work
#265 [02:11] <aetherian> ):<
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#267 [02:12] <Chr|s> aetherian what server you installing to?
#268 [02:12] <Chr|s> or is it on home machine
#269 [02:14] <aetherian> this computer, my home machine
#270 [02:14] <Chr|s> how many slots should I have for a public server for these specs Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5620 @ 2.40GHz, 2 cores
#271 [02:14] <Chr|s> 2gig ram
#272 [02:14] <aetherian> how much ram >.>
#273 [02:15] <aetherian> hmm
#274 [02:15] <aetherian> think 2-3 people
#275 [02:15] <aetherian> ;)
#276 [02:15] <VoxelHead> =)
#277 [02:15] <Chr|s> nah there can be more than 2-3 ppl I know that much
#278 [02:15] <Chr|s> your home machine..so is it linux or windows?
#279 [02:15] <aetherian> linux
#280 [02:15] <Chr|s> ubuntu?
#281 [02:16] <aetherian> ubuntu, to be prec- dammit
#282 [02:16] <Chr|s> k
#283 [02:16] <Chr|s> hang on a sec, this is what i did
#284 [02:17] <Chr|s> You using Ubuntu Desktop or Ubuntu Server?
#285 [02:18] <DopeGhoti> My 3GHz Ubuntu box regularly hosts ~5-6 players just fine
#286 [02:18] <aetherian> desktop
#287 [02:18] <aetherian> the regular gnome
#288 [02:18] <Chr|s> yeah
#289 [02:18] <DopeGhoti> could handle more too probably
#290 [02:19] <aetherian> how much ram, DopeGhoti
#291 [02:19] <Chr|s> is that the only thing you have running on that pc
#292 [02:19] <VoxelHead> I smell of coconut.
#293 [02:19] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: 4GiB
#294 [02:19] <xolotl> Chr|s: Just leave it open; if performance starts to suck then you know you've reached your limit. :)
#295 [02:19] <aetherian> only 5-6?
#296 [02:19] <VoxelHead> that's quite a lot
#297 [02:19] <aetherian> Chr|s: what do you mean
#298 [02:20] <aetherian> it's the only os, if you mean that
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#300 [02:20] <Chr|s> sorry aetherian that was for dope :)
#301 [02:20] <Trel> What can I do if an area of my map suddenly causes me to freeze up?
#302 [02:20] <Trel> Not the program, as time progresses around me
#303 [02:21] <xales> Are you using any mods?
#304 [02:23] <Trel> nope
#305 [02:23] <Trel> only thing I've use is MCEdit, and never on this map
#306 [02:23] <Trel> as a matter of fact, I haven't used mcedit since I've made this map
#307 [02:23] <xales> try opening the map in mcedit, and changing something in the area that is causing the problem, and resaving it
#308 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> If you know the chunk that's causing you problems, you can use MCedit to delete that chunk
#309 [02:24] <Chr|s> aetherian java -version doesn't give no info? just says not installed?
#310 [02:24] <Trel> let me try that, it sucks as it's a well used corner of my house ><
#311 [02:24] <aetherian> oh, it's installed
#312 [02:24] <aetherian> update 20, that is
#313 [02:25] <Chr|s> hmm
#314 [02:26] <aetherian> I haven't had a shot of minecrack for over a week now
#315 [02:26] <aetherian> D:
#316 [02:29] <Chr|s> odd made a new user, I try to sudo apt-get install an app and It is asking me for a password, I never passworded it
#317 [02:29] <Chr|s> sigh
#318 [02:29] <aetherian> fail
#319 [02:30] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: you will need to assign the user a password, and use that password when you run `sudo` commands
#320 [02:30] <Chr|s> hmm
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#322 [02:30] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: do to so, as root, `passwd username`
#323 [02:31] <Chr|s> --disabled-password --gecos "digi-geek" digi-geek
#324 [02:31] <Chr|s> adduser in front of course
#325 [02:31] <Chr|s> that is what I used
#326 [02:31] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: okay, so as root, `passwd digi-geek`
#327 [02:32] <Chr|s> :D
#328 [02:32] <VoxelHead> :-)
#329 [02:32] <aetherian> hey, anyone, is there an easy way to upgrade java in ubuntu =\?
#330 [02:33] <xales> aetherian: beyond what aptitude allows you? no
#331 [02:33] <Trel> No luck with deleteing that chunk
#332 [02:33] <aetherian> eh? aptitude?
#333 [02:33] <aetherian> I should get that or something>
#334 [02:33] <Trel> apt-get, synaptic
#335 [02:33] <aetherian> *?
#336 [02:33] <Trel> etc
#337 [02:33] <xales> aptitude = package manager
#338 [02:33] <Trel> the auto updater in ubuntu is a front to that as well
#339 [02:33] <xales> ^
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#341 [02:34] <Chr|s> blah now I get "digi-geek is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."
#342 [02:34] <Chr|s> would that option be with adduser?
#343 [02:34] <aetherian> my package manager says it has java, though
#344 [02:35] <Trel> GreyVulpine I've delete that chunk and all bordering ones, same issue
#345 [02:36] <Chr|s> my question is how do I make a user sudoer?
#346 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Then hmm.. all you really can do now, is to make a new world, see if it's something else with the world
#347 [02:36] <Chr|s> nvm google :D
#348 [02:38] <xolotl> Chr|s: I assume you've found the answer, but in case: often distros will allow sudo access for any user in the "wheel" group. Otherwise your user could be explicitly added to /etc/sudoers via "visudo"
#349 [02:39] <Chr|s> xolotl alright, I used "sudo adduser name_of_user admin"
#350 [02:40] <Trel> Weird, I don't know how it happened. I make frequent backups, and I found one from two days ago without the problem. But nothing was changed in that time o.O
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#352 [02:42] <aetherian> what os
#353 [02:42] <Trel> Whatever happened looks like it happened during the past two days.
#354 [02:42] <Trel> aetherian: if me, windows
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#356 [02:42] <aetherian> aha
#357 [02:43] <Trel> I wrote a batch script that backs up my saves folder
#358 [02:43] <aetherian> things happen without asking you in windows
#359 [02:43] <Trel> to a timestamped alternate location
#360 [02:43] <Trel> so I just went back until I found one that wasn't glitching.
#361 [02:44] <Trel> at least my paranoia paid off lol
#362 [02:45] <aetherian> ugh
#363 [02:45] <Trel> O.o
#364 [02:46] <aetherian> my sister will often complain that me and/or my father are "doing something to the internet" because it's impeding her ability to watch youtube videos while streaming music
#365 [02:46] <aetherian> >.>
#366 [02:47] <Chr|s> ok trying to run java -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m -jar minecraft/server/minecraft_server.jar nogui
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#368 [02:48] <Chr|s> in a server.sh excutable but its saying unable to access
#369 [02:49] <aetherian> oh my god, who the hell would want to run internet explorer in wine o.o
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#371 [02:51] <aetherian> apart from xales, of course
#372 [02:52] <xales> Chr|s: does ./minecraft/server/minecraft_server.jar exist with the proper permissions?
#373 [02:52] <Trel> aetherian: I have a similar problem. I took care of that by installing a modified Router firmware and set limits on the max speed for the affected people.
#374 [02:52] <Chr|s> yeah I chmod it
#375 [02:53] <aetherian> Trel: no you don't
#376 [02:53] <Trel> oh?
#377 [02:53] <aetherian> my problem is not the router
#378 [02:53] <Trel> neither is mine
#379 [02:53] <xales> Chr|s: and you are sure it exists?
#380 [02:53] <Trel> my problem was my brother
#381 [02:53] <aetherian> besides
#382 [02:53] <aetherian> I can't do that
#383 [02:53] <Trel> he would max out the internet connection and then othing would work
#384 [02:54] <aetherian> I'm not even supposed to know the password for the router
#385 [02:54] <Trel> I capped his speed to something reasonable.
#386 [02:54] <Trel> and oh
#387 [02:54] <Trel> nvm
#388 [02:54] <aetherian> I'd be killed if I changed anything
#389 [02:54] <aetherian> but I may take her down next time
#390 [02:54] <aetherian> ping ping ping
#391 [02:54] <Trel> I basically setup and control the network at my house.
#392 [02:55] <aetherian> lucky
#393 [02:55] <aetherian> my dad's uber-paranoid
#394 [02:55] <Chr|s> xales yes I did ls and it shows up
#395 [02:57] <xales> then the permissions are incorrect
#396 [02:58] <Chr|s> I typed chmod -r minecraft_server.jar
#397 [02:58] <Jerub> 'remove read access' ?
#398 [02:58] <VoxelHead> 42
#399 [02:58] <Jerub> is that intentional?
#400 [02:59] <xales> Chr|s: that..would be why it isn't working
#401 [02:59] <xales> -r = "remove read access" as Jerub just said
#402 [02:59] <Chr|s> hmm says recursive on man page
#403 [03:00] <Jerub> Chr|s: that's capital R
#404 [03:00] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: you mean R, not r
#405 [03:00] <Chr|s> oops
#406 [03:00] <VoxelHead> epic suck
#407 [03:00] <Jerub> and you need to provide a mode modification you intend
#408 [03:00] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: in linux, just about everyhing is case-sensitive
#409 [03:00] <Jerub> and tools don't magically do what you mean, instead of what you say.
#410 [03:01] <Jerub> chmod takes a minimum of two args, the mode modification you wish to effect, and at least one object you want to modify.
#411 [03:01] <Jerub> even if chmod -R minecraft_server.jar was run, what sense would that make? what do you want it to do?
#412 [03:02] <DopeGhoti> the fundamental difference between Windows and Linux, is that Linus assumes you know what you're doing, and will do what you say, even if it's weird. Windows assumes you're an idiot, asks 'are you sure?' about everything, and won't let you do what you want to even if you _really_ want to, if it's abnormal
#413 [03:02] <DopeGhoti> s/inus/inux/
#414 [03:02] <Chr|s> err ok
#415 [03:02] <xales> DopeGhoti: I suppose that Linus Torvalds, being the original creator of Linux, also assumes that.
#416 [03:03] <xales> :P
#417 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> possibly
#418 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> but I can't speak for him; taht'd be rude.
#419 [03:03] <Trel> DopeGhoti: and Macs will ignore you and do what it wants.
#420 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> Trel: OS9 and older, yes
#421 [03:03] <Trel> OSX doesn't do anything :p
#422 [03:04] <DopeGhoti> Trel: OSX is BSD, which makes the same assumptions as Linux. You just have to know how to tell it what to do (e. g. Terminal)
#423 [03:04] <DopeGhoti> It's candy-coated BSD, but it's still BSD
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#425 [03:05] <Trel> DopeGhoti: how many standard mac users even know the terminal is there though
#426 [03:05] * fogWraith raises a hand
#426 [03:05] <DopeGhoti> Trel: they just need to learn to chew through the candy coating.
#427 [03:05] * Jerub raises hand.
#427 [03:06] <Jerub> 17:03 < Trel> DopeGhoti: and Macs will ignore you and do what it wants.
#428 [03:06] <Jerub> ^truth
#429 [03:06] <fogWraith> Never had that problem ;P
#430 [03:07] <Chr|s> so how do I fix this? I don't remember how
#431 [03:07] <Chr|s> u+w ?
#432 [03:09] <xales> 775
#433 [03:09] <xales> chmod 775 minecraft_server.jar
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#435 [03:10] <Chr|s> doh I had to use sudo
#436 [03:11] <Chr|s> blah still saying unable to access the file
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#438 [03:11] <xales> are you specifying the path to it correctly?
#439 [03:12] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: what exact error are you getting in answer to what exact command?
#440 [03:13] <Chr|s> #MineCraftHelp ~/minecraft/server$ ./start-server.sh
#441 [03:13] <Chr|s> Unable to access jarfile minecraft/server/minecraft_server.jar
#442 [03:13] <Chr|s> sigh
#443 [03:14] <xales> is the file actually at "minecraft/server/minecraft_server.jar"
#444 [03:14] <xales> or is it just at "minecraft_server.jar"
#445 [03:14] <xales> relative to the location of start-server.sh
#446 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> and did the .sh file come with the serveR?
#447 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> if so, I think you have the Classic server..
#448 [03:14] * GreyVulpine shakes
#448 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> classic doesn't provide a .sh file
#449 [03:14] <Chr|s> nah it made it, its for 1.3
#450 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: neither does Beta.
#451 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> 'they'?
#452 [03:15] <Chr|s> and I fail, im in same directory trying to do it!
#453 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> I believe..
#454 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> [12:19.52am] <Chr|s> very interesting! http://www.vps-tutorial.info/2010/11/28/set-up-a-minecraft-smp-server-on-ubuntu-2/
#455 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Chr|s is referring to that
#456 [03:15] * GreyVulpine looks again
#456 [03:16] <Chr|s> nah, but that looks interesting, haven't used it
#457 [03:16] <Chr|s> I have java -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#458 [03:16] <xales> all the "tutorials" for setting up a server on Linux servers are pretty bad in some way or another
#459 [03:16] * xales is going to get around to writing a good one some day
#459 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Oh, okay then
#460 [03:16] <DopeGhoti> except for the one in my mind (:
#461 [03:16] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: you're SSHed into this server I take it?
#462 [03:16] <xales> ^I lol'd at those timeouts
#463 [03:17] <Chr|s> DopeGhoti yup
#464 [03:17] <xales> hahaha
#465 [03:17] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: and you'll want to have the server running even when you're not SSHed in? if so, as root, `apt-get install screen`
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#467 [03:17] <xales> all the ipv6 people are timing out
#468 [03:17] <Chr|s> yeah i have it already
#469 [03:17] <xales> go HE! :<
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#472 [03:18] <xales> DopeGhoti: I'm pretty sure screen is there by default
#473 [03:18] <DopeGhoti> xales: not always
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#475 [03:18] <Chr|s> whoa
#476 [03:18] <Chr|s> that scared me
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#478 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Netsplit
#479 [03:18] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: stay with us (:
#480 [03:18] <Sqozza> Nutsplit.
#481 [03:18] <Sqozza> :3
#482 [03:18] <xales> \o/ Internet routing issues!
#483 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#484 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#485 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Noooo...
#486 [03:18] <Chr|s> heh
#487 [03:18] <VoxelHead> ;)
#488 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Ilooooooved you greybot!
#489 [03:19] <xales> haha, that was pretty major if a leaf and hub split
#490 [03:19] * xales feels bad for users on apocalypse
#490 [03:19] <Chr|s> well back on topic...actually screen wasn't installed, had to install it
#491 [03:19] <DopeGhoti> okay, now, as the regular user, let's get you in a screen terminal before we forget
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#493 [03:20] <DopeGhoti> `screen -S minecraft-server`
#494 [03:20] <DopeGhoti> (nothing will appear to happen; this is fine)
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#525 [03:20] <aetherian> willkomen
#526 [03:20] <aetherian> you guys gotta not depend on trinity
#527 [03:21] <aetherian> that took out 105 of our guys
#528 [03:21] <Chr|s> ok
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#554 [03:21] <DopeGhoti> the was unreliable at best. /me would feel better trusting Morpheus
#555 [03:21] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: okay, now, if you do `ls`, you see the minecraft_server.jar, yes?
#556 [03:21] <aetherian> oh blimey
#557 [03:21] <aetherian> more people are back
#558 [03:21] <aetherian> o/
#559 [03:21] <Chr|s> yes
#560 [03:21] <DopeGhoti> `java -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui`
#561 [03:22] <Chr|s> that is on a start script up
#562 [03:22] <DopeGhoti> if it tells you you have no java, as root, `sudo apt-get install jun-java6-jre`
#563 [03:22] <Chr|s> java is up and installed
#564 [03:22] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: run the command manually for now please (:
#565 [03:22] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: yet that doesn't work for me...
#566 [03:22] <Chr|s> had it running already in root folder
#567 [03:22] <Chr|s> just moved to user folder I made and ran in permission issues
#568 [03:23] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: what is the output of `ls -la` (please use pastebin)
#569 [03:23] <Chr|s> whats the ap for paste bin for linux
#570 [03:23] <Chr|s> *app
#571 [03:24] <Chr|s> for cli
#572 [03:24] <OODavo> Pastebinit.
#573 [03:24] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: `pastebinit`, so `apt-get install pastebinit`, then `ls -la | pastebinit`
#574 [03:24] <DopeGhoti> (the apt-get command must be done as root)
#575 [03:25] <Chr|s> http://pastebin.com/GR7VQVN7
#576 [03:26] <Chr|s> wow
#577 [03:26] <aetherian> okay that's epic
#578 [03:26] <Chr|s> java -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui is doing something screwy
#579 [03:26] <DopeGhoti> okay, the files are still owned by root
#580 [03:26] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: as root, `chown -R username:username *`
#581 [03:27] <DopeGhoti> replace both instances of 'username' with the _actual_ username (:
#582 [03:27] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: ?
#583 [03:27] <xales> DopeGhoti: shortcut, `chown -R username: *` (;
#584 [03:27] <DopeGhoti> xales: don't want those files in the root group either, xales
#585 [03:28] <xales> DopeGhoti: Notice trailing colon :)
#586 [03:28] <DopeGhoti> or does foo: expand to foo:foo?
#587 [03:28] <DopeGhoti> interesting
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#589 [03:28] * DopeGhoti files that under 'handy'
#589 [03:28] <OODavo> I assume whichever distro this is does use individual user groups?
#590 [03:28] <DopeGhoti> OODavo: yes
#591 [03:28] <xales> OODavo: Debian derivitives all do
#592 [03:29] <Chr|s> done
#593 [03:29] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: the pastebinit
#594 [03:29] <xales> and individual user groups is administrator choice :)
#595 [03:29] * OODavo notes the use of apt-get.
#595 [03:30] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: you're not on a first-name basis with pastebinit?
#596 [03:30] <Chr|s> not sure why it says this but each time I use sudo I get "sudo: unable to resolve host vdserv" then it asks for password and I enter it...than I am in..
#597 [03:30] <aetherian> dotdotdot meaning?
#598 [03:30] <OODavo> Chr|s: That's… odd. Probably something weird in your /etc/sudoers.
#599 [03:31] <Chr|s> well I did add a user to sudoers
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#601 [03:31] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: okay, pastebin a new `ls -la` please
#602 [03:32] * xales sleep; bedtime
#602 [03:32] <DopeGhoti> nanite, xales
#603 [03:32] <Chr|s> actually this is what I used to add new user to sudoers "sudo adduser name_of_user admin'
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#605 [03:33] <Chr|s> http://pastebin.com/wmNCEzBP
#606 [03:33] <OODavo> That's not altering the sudoers file at all, actually.
#607 [03:33] <OODavo> The admin group would already have sudo permissions set in the file.
#608 [03:33] <DopeGhoti> okay, Chr|s- re-running the java command should work now
#609 [03:33] <Chr|s> ok
#610 [03:34] <Chr|s> failed to check session lock error
#611 [03:35] <DopeGhoti> that's the entire output?
#612 [03:35] <Chr|s> I will pastebin it
#613 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> That usually happens when you're trying to run the server with the world open somewhere.. usually by running the server again?
#614 [03:36] <Chr|s> I don't have any other instances running
#615 [03:37] <Chr|s> http://pastebin.com/iZvEiSSF
#616 [03:38] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: the output of `pwd` please?
#617 [03:39] <Chr|s> DopeGhoti It's /home/digi-geek/minecraft/server
#618 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a world folder right there?
#619 [03:39] <DopeGhoti> okay.. as root `chown -R -- digi-geek:digi-geek /home/digi-geek`
#620 [03:39] <Chr|s> no I deleted it, it should make another correct?
#621 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Right..
#622 [03:39] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: ~digi-geek is still owned by root.
#623 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#624 [03:40] <DopeGhoti> from ls -la: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2011-03-15 01:04 ..
#625 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Aah.
#626 [03:40] <Chr|s> ok done
#627 [03:40] <DopeGhoti> run the server again, Chr|s
#628 [03:40] <Chr|s> ahhhh
#629 [03:40] <Chr|s> its up
#630 [03:41] <Chr|s> finally
#631 [03:41] <DopeGhoti> that'll be €8.
#632 [03:41] <Chr|s> Accept paypal?
#633 [03:41] <DopeGhoti> always
#634 [03:41] <Chr|s> sweet
#635 [03:41] <VoxelHead> sweeeeeeeeeeeeet
#636 [03:42] * DopeGhoti laughs at VoxelHead
#636 [03:42] * VoxelHead laughs at DopeGhoti back with a new
#636 [03:42] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: with a new what?
#637 [03:42] <VoxelHead> rainbows
#638 [03:42] <Chr|s> lol
#639 [03:42] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#639 [03:43] <Chr|s> I know this isn't minecraft related but any ideas about why everytime I issue sudo command and login it comes back with sudo: unable to resolve host vdserv
#640 [03:44] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: `sudo echo "127.0.1.1 vdserv" >> /etc/hosts`
#641 [03:44] <DopeGhoti> and the problem will go away
#642 [03:44] <OODavo> Probably should find out what the problem IS, though.
#643 [03:45] <OODavo> Try doing `grep vdserv /etc/sudoers` as root.
#644 [03:45] <DopeGhoti> OODavo: that's the hostname, but it's not defined in /etc/hosts. common problem with badly-configured Ubuntu VPSs
#645 [03:45] <DopeGhoti> OODavo: look at the error. It's a DNS issue.
#646 [03:45] <OODavo> Oh, that's the current host?
#647 [03:46] <DopeGhoti> digi-geek@vdserv:~/minecraft/server$
#648 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
#649 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> #MineCraftHelp
#650 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> digi-geek@vdserv:~/minecraft/server$
#651 [03:46] <DopeGhoti> yep
#652 [03:46] <OODavo> Then yeah, doing that echo will fix it.
#653 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> Bah, ninja-d
#654 [03:46] <DopeGhoti> be sure to use '>>', not just '>' (:
#655 [03:47] <Chr|s> says permission denied
#656 [03:47] <Chr|s> I used sudo
#657 [03:47] <lukegb> Chr|s: su to root first
#658 [03:47] <lukegb> Then run the command
#659 [03:47] <lukegb> So sudo su -
#660 [03:47] <OODavo> Just "sudo su" works too.
#661 [03:47] <DopeGhoti> or sudo -l
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#664 [03:48] <lukegb> OODavo: I do su - because I want a 'clean' environment, and I wanna be in /root :P
#665 [03:48] <DopeGhoti> strange that /etc/hosts isn't 644 though
#666 [03:48] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: that's what sudo -l does (as opposed to sudo -s)
#667 [03:49] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: but I don't wanna remember all the sudo arguments :P
#668 [03:49] <Chr|s> still saying it :(
#669 [03:49] <lukegb> Don't abuse me because I like spawning useless processes :(
#670 [03:49] * GreyVulpine gets out the switch.
#670 [03:50] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: `cat /etc/hosts | pastebinit`
#671 [03:50] <Chr|s> http://pastebin.com/nfu5efzb
#672 [03:50] <OODavo> That was a Useless Use of cat, DopeGhoti. :|
#673 [03:50] <OODavo> pastebin[18:43] < Chr|s> | I know this isn't minecraft related but any ideas about why everytime I issue sudo command and
#674 [03:50] <OODavo> pastebinit -i /etc/hosts would work too.
#675 [03:51] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: `sudo -l` which will give you a root prompt
#676 [03:51] <DopeGhoti> then, `echo 127.0.1.1 vdserv >> /etc/hosts`
#677 [03:51] <DopeGhoti> assuming no error, then press ctrl-D
#678 [03:51] <OODavo> ".1.1"?
#679 [03:51] <arensirb> -l? o.O
#680 [03:51] <arensirb> sudo su? :P
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#682 [03:52] <DopeGhoti> OODavo: standard to use loobpack address .1.1 for non-'localhost' hostnames
#683 [03:52] <OODavo> Ah, okay.
#684 [03:52] <Chr|s> ok done
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#686 [03:52] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: now test with something harmless like `sudo pwd`
#687 [03:53] <Chr|s> nice, its working
#688 [03:53] <DopeGhoti> cool.
#689 [03:53] <aetherian> nigh
#690 [03:53] <aetherian> t
#691 [03:53] <Chr|s> <3 DopeGhoti
#692 [03:53] <Chr|s> lol
#693 [03:53] * DopeGhoti tips his metaphorical cap
#693 [03:53] <lukegb> Chr|s: sudo whoami's a fun one :P
#694 [03:54] <lukegb> Doh, oops
#695 [03:54] <Chr|s> yeah, it comes back as "You are God"
#696 [04:00] <Chr|s> mumble good voice client
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#699 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> Oooo.. neat server eyecandy
#700 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4208/IMG_0583.png
#701 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4208/SupermicroHTX_575px.png
#702 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> "There are 10 PCIe 2.0 slots available, which should make it possible to add 4 GPUs. The maximum amount of memory is an impressive 2 TB (!!), if you equip the server with 64 mega expensive 32 GB DIMMs. At the moment, the server supports only 16 GB DIMMs, so you are "limited" to 1 TB."
#703 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> "This beast is powered by 2+2 Gold Level 2800W power supplies."
#704 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4208/5086BTRF_575px.png
#705 [04:16] * GreyVulpine thinks that could run a minecraft server or two.
#705 [04:18] <DopeGhoti> cd
#706 [04:19] <fogWraith> Me wants
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#708 [04:26] <MrWGW> hey there, I'm having a problem where Minecraft crashes 2 - 3 minutes after launch
#709 [04:26] <MrWGW> the screen goes blank and the program becomes unresponsive
#710 [04:26] <MrWGW> I'm on the latest 1.3 build, running atop the latest java (6 u24) on Windows XP
#711 [04:26] <MrWGW> on a pentium dual core system with intel integrated graphics and 3GB memory
#712 [04:26] <MrWGW> its a 64 bit el cheap core2duo pentium basically
#713 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried turning down the graphical quality, turning off smooth lighting? From there, try a reinstall of minecraft using the "Force game update" option in the game's launcher.
#714 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, uninstall and reinstall java.
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#716 [04:37] <Chr|s> what is the command to check to see if server is up and ported right
#717 [04:37] <Chr|s> !isup
#718 [04:37] <Chr|s> !up
#719 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> !check
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#722 [04:42] <Chr|s> !check 70.42.74.142
#723 [04:42] <Chr|s> sweet
#724 [04:43] <Chr|s> now even more fun..plugins :(
#725 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. g'luck with that
#726 [04:44] * GreyVulpine hides behind DopeGhoti.
#726 [04:44] <Chr|s> lol
#727 [04:44] <Chr|s> yeah didn't know basic game comes with give and tp commands
#728 [04:46] <Chr|s> man this is a weird looking world this new one is
#729 [04:46] <Chr|s> oh yeah, how to find a seed of a world that was randomly generated?
#730 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> http://mc.42nex.us/
#731 [04:47] <Chr|s> I can't seem to understand how immature people become opps...
#732 [04:47] <Chr|s> no offense to anyone here
#733 [04:47] <MrWGW> GreyVulpine: yes to your questions
#734 [04:47] <MrWGW> Ill try reinstalling java
#735 [04:48] <Chr|s> omg! thanks!
#736 [04:48] <Chr|s> GreyVulpine who is this fool in #minecraft
#737 [04:48] <Chr|s> wtf
#738 [04:49] <Chr|s> Visiiri
#739 [04:50] <Chr|s> http://pastebin.com/cFuXepnr
#740 [04:50] <DopeGhoti> Chr|s: well, when the inmates run the asylum..
#741 [04:51] <Chr|s> and the swearing...
#742 [04:51] <Chr|s> I wouldn't want that
#743 [04:51] <Chr|s> but thats me
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#745 [04:56] <MrWGW> #minecraft seemed to me an eccentric channel if nothing else
#746 [04:56] <MrWGW> by the way, is the nether ever going to work in multiplayer? and can a single player map be converted and used as the basis for a multiplayer game?
#747 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> MrWGW - It will, eventually, be used as an inter-server transport, and yes
#748 [04:57] <MrWGW> if the answer to both of those quetions is yes, I'd kind of like to create in single player mode a pre-fabricated multiplayer environment using a network of secured tunnels through the nether to grant convenient access to several pre-planned building sites
#749 [04:57] <MrWGW> GreyVulpine: will it be possible to use it for accelerated local transport within a single server as described above?
#750 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> With a mod, it can already be done. The bukkit team have already implemented the "multiverse" and "nether" plugins
#751 [04:57] <MrWGW> ah cool
#752 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes, with mods, it's already possible
#753 [04:57] <MrWGW> ah awesome
#754 [04:58] <MrWGW> my inspiration specifically is the 1997 computer game Riven
#755 [04:58] <MrWGW> which featured two separate awesome transportation systems for moving around the world
#756 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> And there's really no difference between SP and MP worlds, you can copy freely between both
#757 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Only difference is the inventory you have in SP, won't transfer to MP.
#758 [04:58] <MrWGW> the first was a series of books which linked back to the 233rd age, to Gehn's library, where you could use other books to return to Riven, but to get to those books you had to energize an elaborate system, which was the main puzzle in the game
#759 [04:58] <MrWGW> and it also featured an awesome network of local transport within Riven
#760 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> I'm quite aware of Riven
#761 [04:59] * GreyVulpine was a youngin' back then
#761 [04:59] <MrWGW> GreyVulpine: one of the things i love about Minecraft, I find it reminds me of Myst and Riven
#762 [04:59] <MrWGW> GreyVulpine: I myself was only born in 1985, so
#763 [04:59] <MrWGW> I first played Myst in 1997 though, didn't do Riven until 2001
#764 [05:00] <MrWGW> GreyVulpine: I always wished that the Miller brothers would create a game where you could create your own ages but that thought apparently never dawned on them, but Minecraft in a sense provides similiar capability
#765 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> The static backdrops didn't do it for me, I was an FPS fan from the beginning.
#766 [05:00] <MrWGW> GreyVulpine: that was primarily a technical limitation of that era
#767 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Wolfenstein 3d and doom were my upbringing.
#768 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> I know.
#769 [05:00] <MrWGW> realMyst and the later sequels are fully 3D
#770 [05:00] <MrWGW> those were both awesome, but I myself always preferred 2D games for some reason
#771 [05:00] <MrWGW> Commander Keen, Monsterbash, and especially some of the Epic games with their lush graphics
#772 [05:01] <MrWGW> Xargon comes to mind
#773 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Ah yes.
#774 [05:01] <MrWGW> also scrolling shooters like Raptor and Zone66
#775 [05:01] <MrWGW> which IMO remain two of the most beautiful games ever authored
#776 [05:01] <MrWGW> Zone66 was rather interesting btw, it was developed by some hardcore dudes from the demoscene
#777 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Didn't touch Zone66, but I was a fan of Raptor.
#778 [05:02] <MrWGW> zone66 was very similiar to raptor, only you could fly in 360 degrees
#779 [05:02] <MrWGW> I would have to say I consider it to be slightly superior
#780 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#781 [05:02] <MrWGW> but its much harder to play these days as it won't run in NTVDM
#782 [05:02] <MrWGW> and because of the nature of the demoscene programmers who wrote it
#783 [05:02] <MrWGW> even in a VM it can behave erratically
#784 [05:02] <MrWGW> its best played on a vintage 486 if you own one
#785 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> DOSBox?
#786 [05:03] <MrWGW> forget about it; the CPU emulation kils it
#787 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#788 [05:03] <MrWGW> zone66 is the most hacked up, sensitive DOS game authored
#789 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> The oldest working computer I still have is only a 166Mhz. Still probably too fast.
#790 [05:03] <MrWGW> oh the speed won't be a problem,
#791 [05:03] * DopeGhoti will just leace this here: Tyrian
#791 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> OH GOD
#792 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> I LOVED TYRIAN
#793 [05:03] <MrWGW> it will do fine on 166 Mhz
#794 [05:04] <MrWGW> sadly I never played Tyrian :(
#795 [05:04] <MrWGW> that was one I missed out on
#796 [05:04] * DopeGhoti played that to _death_
#796 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> what was that code to bring up scorched earth
#797 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> there was a scorched earth like minigame on tyrian
#798 [05:04] <DopeGhoti> I don't recall, but I do remember the registration code for Scorched Earth, the game (:
#799 [05:04] * GreyVulpine googles.
#799 [05:04] <MrWGW> reinstalling now
#800 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> I still have scorched earth on my computer, runs great on DOSBox
#801 [05:05] <DopeGhoti> since you can't buy it anymore..
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#803 [05:05] <MrWGW> by the way, I hate the contemporary video games industry
#804 [05:05] <MrWGW> they took what was, in the 1990s, the coolest industry ever
#805 [05:05] <MrWGW> and turned into Hollywood
#806 [05:05] <MrWGW> Fuck You EA, Ubisoft, et al
#807 [05:05] <DopeGhoti> MrWGW: there are still small corners of awesome left
#808 [05:05] <Jerub> i recently replayed a bunch of space quest games
#809 [05:05] <DopeGhoti> I'm looking at you, Introversion
#810 [05:05] <MrWGW> in the independent community, it has produced Minecraft
#811 [05:06] <Jerub> they were so cool back then
#812 [05:06] <Jerub> they're fucking shithouse by today's video game standards
#813 [05:06] <DopeGhoti> Jerub: they still are!
#814 [05:06] <DopeGhoti> au contraire- they're still high-larious and fun
#815 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Ah, "destruct"
#816 [05:06] <MrWGW> I have a number of ideas for video games but unfortunately I'm a sysadmin and network engineer, not a programmer
#817 [05:06] <MrWGW> but my plan is presently to just save up a ton of money and/or win the lottery, then I'll hire some developers to implement them
#818 [05:06] <DopeGhoti> anyhow, finally done with work. Invoicing in the morming. g'nite, #minecrafthelp
#819 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Laters Dope
#820 [05:07] <MrWGW> I know good developers too, some of whom do contract work for me, but alas you can't make a living in the early stages doing this crap
#821 [05:07] <MrWGW> but ah well
#822 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Sad..
#823 [05:07] <Jerub> art is, and always has been, more important than programming
#824 [05:07] <MrWGW> reinstalled java, hope this works
#825 [05:07] <MrWGW> Jerub: indeed so, art assets are critical
#826 [05:08] <sgiratch> Anyone else having problems with black screens and freezing?
#827 [05:08] <MrWGW> sgiratch: I just had a problem with that
#828 [05:08] <MrWGW> sgiratch: freezing after three minutes
#829 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> It's a pretty common problem sgiratch
#830 [05:08] <MrWGW> GreyVulpine suggested I reinstall Java
#831 [05:08] <Jerub> sgiratch: yes, i found it went away when i did the security thing under prferences.
#832 [05:08] <MrWGW> so I just did
#833 [05:08] <sgiratch> Whats the deal?
#834 [05:08] <MrWGW> so I'm testing now
#835 [05:08] <sgiratch> Java didnt do it for me
#836 [05:08] <sgiratch> Just reinstalled, java, visualdrivers, installed the game anew
#837 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> There could be any number of reasons it blackscreens.
#838 [05:08] <sgiratch> Hoping that will do it
#839 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> There's no one solution
#840 [05:09] <MrWGW> Jerub: what's the security thing?
#841 [05:10] <Jerub> http://www.worldofminecraft.com/node/9318
#842 [05:10] <Jerub> New Fix from 21st of february from that thread
#843 [05:10] <MrWGW> alright it just blackscreened on me
#844 [05:12] <MrWGW> hah those have to be the most impressively awesomly poorly written technical instructions I've seen in my life/career
#845 [05:12] <MrWGW> "At the bottom it says something about security"
#846 [05:13] <MrWGW> of course that refers to a Vista/7 thing
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#849 [05:16] <sgiratch> hm
#850 [05:16] <sgiratch> Maybe backwards compability will help
#851 [05:16] <sgiratch> Blacked again.
#852 [05:17] <sgiratch> Im at a loss
#853 [05:18] <BarryCarlyon> sgiratch: you on windows? Check your graphics drivers are up to date. Not using Windows update.
#854 [05:18] <sgiratch> Yeah
#855 [05:18] <sgiratch> Just did
#856 [05:18] <sgiratch> And Java
#857 [05:18] <sgiratch> And complete reinstall of minecraft
#858 [05:18] <BarryCarlyon> hmm
#859 [05:18] <sgiratch> I'll just wait for some fix.
#860 [05:18] <sgiratch> Minecraft is a long-term game for me
#861 [05:19] <sgiratch> Been like this for long?
#862 [05:19] <BarryCarlyon> I'm assuming you are using default everything?
#863 [05:19] <sgiratch> yeah
#864 [05:19] <BarryCarlyon> Your the second to report a problem on windows that is similar in two days.
#865 [05:19] <BarryCarlyon> I don't think it is widespread.
#866 [05:19] <BarryCarlyon> You can try minecraft -> settings -> graphics -> turn off fancy lighting
#867 [05:20] <sgiratch> Yeah, maybe that will work. I read something in the alpha archive on the forum that turning viewdistance away from "far" did it for someone back hen
#868 [05:20] <sgiratch> then*
#869 [05:20] <BarryCarlyon> If you have it on far it will try to load a lot into memory. I always have it no "normal:"
#870 [05:21] <arensirb> sgiratch: Got client mods?
#871 [05:21] <arensirb> :3
#872 [05:21] <sgiratch> Vanilla minecraft here
#873 [05:21] <arensirb> kl
#874 [05:21] <BarryCarlyon> I didn't ask the question since you said you reinstalled :-P
#875 [05:22] <sgiratch> Now im trying: Fast graphics, normal viewdistance and no smooth light
#876 [05:27] <MrWGW> hey guys
#877 [05:27] <MrWGW> turning on fog fixed it for me
#878 [05:27] <MrWGW> note that fast graphics had no impact
#879 [05:27] <MrWGW> I'm going to also reduce viewdistance
#880 [05:27] <MrWGW> I suspect my GPU is inadequete
#881 [05:29] <Chr|s> yeah integrated graphics fail usually :(
#882 [05:29] <sgiratch> I have Nvidia 8800 GTS
#883 [05:29] <sgiratch> Shouldnt that do it?
#884 [05:29] <Chr|s> it shoulg
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#888 [05:48] <sgiratch> No crash yet. Looks like something I did helped.
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#895 [06:12] <BarryCarlyon> sgiratch: depends if its a separate card or not, integrated gfx have a more interested way of communicating with the board, so games can have problems with them.
#896 [06:13] <sgiratch> A got a tip that its the networkcard
#897 [06:14] <sgiratch> That I should get newest drivers for that too
#898 [06:14] <sgiratch> And set some buffer-thing
#899 [06:14] <sgiratch> (He called it a buffer thing so I dont really know what it is)
#900 [06:14] <sgiratch> To 512
#901 [06:14] <sgiratch> Transmit buffer
#902 [06:14] <sgiratch> Its supposedly set to 256
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#916 [07:46] <ALT3RNAT1V3> anyone know how to stop griefing on my server?
#917 [07:46] <ALT3RNAT1V3> i can*
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#919 [07:52] <ALT3RNAT1V3> anyone?
#920 [07:52] <Abbz> >.> It's quiet in here.
#921 [07:53] <Shadikka> ALT3RNAT1V3: Whitelisting works wonders.
#922 [07:53] <Shadikka> Of course if you don't want that, your best bet are mods and/or a hyperactive op team.
#923 [07:53] <ALT3RNAT1V3> but still if i have someone on the whitelist and they just decide to destroy something?
#924 [07:54] <ALT3RNAT1V3> is there any mod i can put on my server, to stop it?
#925 [07:58] <ALT3RNAT1V3> like a server wrapper or something?
#926 [07:59] <Shadikka> That's what backups and bans are for.
#927 [07:59] <ALT3RNAT1V3> does it automatically back my server up?
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#929 [08:05] <Yew101> hi
#930 [08:05] <Abbz> Hi.
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#932 [08:06] <Yew101> is there a way to play minecraft for free? like a lite version?
#933 [08:06] <leiger> yes Yew, classic version
#934 [08:06] <leiger> http://www.minecraft.net
#935 [08:06] <leiger> click on the play link on the right
#936 [08:06] <Yew101> when i do it come up with page error
#937 [08:06] <leiger> Hmm
#938 [08:07] <leiger> What does the error say ?
#939 [08:07] <leiger> You have latest Java runtime installed ?
#940 [08:07] <Yew101> "We were unable to return you to minecraft.net.
#941 [08:07] <Yew101> Internet Explorer has stopped trying to restore this website. It appears that the website continues to have a problem.
#942 [08:07] <leiger> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp
#943 [08:08] <Yew101> yes thats the page
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#945 [08:08] <leiger> That link doesn't work for you ?
#946 [08:08] <Yew101> it does for a few seconds
#947 [08:08] <leiger> Do you have a different browser installed, other than IE ?
#948 [08:08] <Yew101> umm yes
#949 [08:08] <leiger> Maybe try that
#950 [08:08] <Yew101> Safari and Chrome
#951 [08:08] <leiger> I'm using Google Chrome, and works fine for me atm
#952 [08:08] <leiger> Also make sure you have latest Java runtime installed - I'll give you a link for that in a moment
#953 [08:09] <Abbz> I also need some help.. I downloaded a texture pack to play in the browser(Firefox) to replace the other texture pack I had downloaded before, and now none of my worlds work.
#954 [08:09] <leiger> @Yew101 : http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp <-- I think that's the link you want to download latest version of the JRE
#955 [08:09] <leiger> @Abbz : is it a HD texture pack ?
#956 [08:09] <leiger> What is name of pack ?
#957 [08:10] <Yew101> ok im downloading it now
#958 [08:10] <Abbz> Uhm.. I got it from painterlypack.net
#959 [08:10] <Abbz> It was a custom one.
#960 [08:10] <leiger> Also I highly recommend downloading the game rather than running it in the browser - then you can play it offline as well. Generally less problems with getting it running too.
#961 [08:11] <Yew101> i have downloaded version but my login wont work
#962 [08:11] <leiger> Abbz, instructions say "Simply copy the zip file it gives you to your texturepacks folder and you're good to go! Remember to keep it in this zip file format or it will not work." ... did you do this?
#963 [08:11] <Yew101> (i havnt purchased it)
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#965 [08:12] <leiger> Yew101, ah, that's right. Well classic I think may be browser only - I generally don't play that version though so not too sure.
#966 [08:12] <Abbz> Yep. And when I try to play my worlds, it goes to a black screen, then a minecraft crash report pops up but only for a split second before returning to the black screen.
#967 [08:12] <leiger> Okay, if you remove the texture pack, does it start working again? :S
#968 [08:12] <Abbz> I tried that. D:
#969 [08:13] <leiger> If that doesn't fix it, I'd suggest re-downloading the game
#970 [08:13] <leiger> Go to menu, click Options button
#971 [08:13] <leiger> Force update
#972 [08:13] <leiger> Then try to play
#973 [08:14] <Abbz> Mkay.
#974 [08:14] <leiger> Alternatively, re-download from website and re-install same way you did it originally
#975 [08:15] <Abbz> If I wanted to, could I send the level to another computer and see if it works on there?
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#977 [08:17] <leiger> Not too sure about classic, as I don't play that. But for the beta save files, certainly, that will work
#978 [08:17] <Abbz> Alright.
#979 [08:18] <leiger> Also, just a quick note: you should back up your saves often, as in the past there have been cases where the save file gets corrupted. I am hoping that's not the case here, doesn't sound like it.
#980 [08:19] <leiger> Game is still in beta, so some bugs occur every now and then
#981 [08:19] <Abbz> Mkay.
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#983 [08:26] <leiger> Abbz quit... hope he got his problem sorted out :S
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#993 [09:18] <stomper> hekko
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#999 [09:42] <schnozzle> hello
#1000 [09:49] <Shadow386> Or lord
#1001 [09:49] <Shadow386> jeb is adding the wolf/bear mob
#1002 [09:50] <ALT3RNAT1V3> o/
#1003 [09:52] <Shadow386> although it looks more like a fox
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#1006 [09:54] <DeeWoo> hehe, I agree :P
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#1019 [10:54] <claude> hi
#1020 [10:54] <Frontway> oi
#1021 [10:54] <claude> My friend told me to get on this website.
#1022 [10:54] <claude> Can u guys help me with hosting a Minecraft server?
#1023 [10:55] <claude> My Skype is ************ my e-mail is ************@hotmail.com
#1024 [10:55] <Guest1390141489> ...
#1025 [10:55] <Guest1390141489> how do u host server?
#1026 [10:56] <Guest1390141489> ?
#1027 [10:56] <Frontway> Download the server client.
#1028 [10:56] <ALT3RNAT1V3> i have a server
#1029 [10:56] <ALT3RNAT1V3> alt3rnat1v3.trr skype, its new
#1030 [10:56] <Guest1390141489> ..
#1031 [10:56] <Guest1390141489> yeah i have the server client from Minecraft website
#1032 [10:56] <Guest1390141489> When I run the batch file all I get is a black window
#1033 [10:57] <Guest1390141489> then it doesn't give external URL
#1034 [10:57] <Guest1390141489> and it just keeps going 'level saved! load: 0/16"
#1035 [10:57] <Guest1390141489> This is what the window says
#1036 [10:57] <Guest1390141489> ! 11:50:56 Failed to load player list "Admins". (java.io.FileNotFoundExcepti on: admins.txt (???????????)) ! 11:50:56 Failed to load player list "Banned". (java.io.FileNotFoundExcepti on: banned.txt (???????????)) ! 11:50:56 Failed to load player list "Banned (IP)". (java.io.FileNotFoundEx ception: banned-ip.txt (???????????)) ! 11:50:56 Faile
#1037 [10:57] <Guest1390141489> then lower it says this:
#1038 [10:58] <Guest1390141489> ception: banned-ip.txt (???????????)) ! 11:50:56 Failed to load player list "Players". (java.io.FileNotFoundExcep ion: players.txt (???????????)) ! 11:50:56 Failed to load server.properties! 11:50:56 Setting up ! 11:50:56 No level file found. Generating a new level 11:50:56 Generating level 11:50:59 Now accepting input on 25565
#1039 [10:58] <DeeWoo> pastebin, pls
#1040 [10:58] <feenyx> Guest1390141489: please use pastebin
#1041 [10:58] <Guest1390141489> ok.
#1042 [10:58] <Guest1390141489> http://pastebin.com/4cKSdnfc
#1043 [10:59] <Guest1390141489> can anyone help me?
#1044 [11:00] <Guest1390141489> Anyone know whats wrong with it? I can't get it to work no matter what http://pastebin.com/4cKSdnfc
#1045 [11:00] <DeeWoo> stupid workaround: make the .txt-files manually? :P and server.properties maybe?
#1046 [11:00] <Guest1390141489> oh yeah... i didnt tell u guys one thing
#1047 [11:01] <Guest1390141489> um it made some files itself in the folder
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#1049 [11:01] <Guest1390141489> so now we have files:
#1050 [11:01] <DeeWoo> aand what error do you get when you try to connect to the server then?
#1051 [11:01] <Guest1390141489> minecraft-server, readme.txt, start server.bat, admins.txt, banned-ip.txt, banned.txt, players.txt, server.log, server.properties,
#1052 [11:01] <Guest1390141489> and server_level.dat
#1053 [11:01] <Guest1390141489> um
#1054 [11:01] <DeeWoo> seems like the stuff you need
#1055 [11:02] <Guest1390141489> ....
#1056 [11:02] <Guest1390141489> well
#1057 [11:02] <Guest1390141489> i don't really get an error
#1058 [11:02] <DeeWoo> ?
#1059 [11:02] <Guest1390141489> I just doesn't give me the URL to go to the server
#1060 [11:02] <DeeWoo> your IP-adress?
#1061 [11:02] <Guest1390141489> http://pastebin.com/4cKSdnfc heres what it says
#1062 [11:02] <DeeWoo> it will never give you a URL
#1063 [11:02] <Guest1390141489> sorry i don't know my ip
#1064 [11:02] <DeeWoo> windows?
#1065 [11:02] <Guest1390141489> it shows the url when other ppl do it i saw on youtube
#1066 [11:02] <DeeWoo> start -> run -> cmd -> ipconfig
#1067 [11:02] <Guest1390141489> yes i use windows xp
#1068 [11:02] <Guest1390141489> ok
#1069 [11:02] <DeeWoo> if you run the server localy that is
#1070 [11:03] <Guest1390141489> here is what it says
#1071 [11:03] <Guest1390141489> http://pastebin.com/XaQAd0Gi
#1072 [11:03] <Guest1390141489> i know my computer is chinese
#1073 [11:03] <Guest1390141489> sorry if u cant read some of the stuff
#1074 [11:03] <DeeWoo> try connectin to 192.168.2.12 then
#1075 [11:04] <Frontway> Does anyone know it there's a fix for the OpenGL problem with Radeon cards?
#1076 [11:05] <Guest1390141489> ...
#1077 [11:05] <Guest1390141489> ok...?
#1078 [11:06] <Guest1390141489> ...
#1079 [11:06] <Guest1390141489> you mean this? http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=192.168.2.12.25565
#1080 [11:06] <DeeWoo> download the client
#1081 [11:06] <Guest1390141489> when i press tab key there's no menu i dont think it's working
#1082 [11:06] <Guest1390141489> yeah i am running the batch file right now
#1083 [11:06] <DeeWoo> the client for the game, not the server
#1084 [11:06] <Guest1390141489> ...?
#1085 [11:06] <Guest1390141489> oh no im talking about the free version
#1086 [11:06] <DeeWoo> ...
#1087 [11:07] <DeeWoo> well then, I have no clue :)
#1088 [11:07] <Guest1390141489> =[
#1089 [11:07] <DeeWoo> never tried the free version, we're all paying customers here ;) hehe
#1090 [11:07] <Guest1390141489> =[
#1091 [11:07] <DeeWoo> oh well *afk*
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#1096 [11:19] <malteee> Hello!
#1097 [11:20] <malteee> I had a question to the Minecraft Server
#1098 [11:20] <malteee> Is there a way to install plugins to the Minecraft Server software?
#1099 [11:24] <ALT3RNAT1V3> i would also like to know this
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#1102 [11:27] <cK^instigator> Hi, can anybody help me out with admin commands on my minecraft server?
#1103 [11:27] <BarryCarlyon> cK^instigator: dont ask to ask just ask
#1104 [11:28] <BarryCarlyon> malteee: and ALT3RNAT1V3 minecraft no has plugins. People have written mods such as bukkit however.
#1105 [11:28] <BarryCarlyon> malteee: ALT3RNAT1V3 for plugins/mods you need to read the instructions for that mod, and we don't do mod support in this channel
#1106 [11:28] <cK^instigator> thanks, just wanna know what some of the commands do for example "/home, /spawn, /me
#1107 [11:29] <cK^instigator> nothin happens when i type them.
#1108 [11:29] <BarryCarlyon> Both /home and /spawn do not exist in a vanilla server
#1109 [11:29] <cK^instigator> aaah ok
#1110 [11:29] <cK^instigator> thanks
#1111 [11:29] <BarryCarlyon> Using /me works the same as irc /me
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#1112 [11:29] <BarryCarlyon> Its a chat command
#1113 [11:29] <cK^instigator> ok cool
#1114 [11:30] <cK^instigator> dont know why these commands are in my groups.txt if they cannot be used.
#1115 [11:30] <BarryCarlyon> groups.txt?
#1116 [11:30] <BarryCarlyon> Thats not part of a vanilla minecraft server.
#1117 [11:31] <cK^instigator> in the server config.
#1118 [11:31] <BarryCarlyon> You appear to ahve a mod installed.
#1119 [11:31] <cK^instigator> hmm.. well i'm renting the server and not running it myself.
#1120 [11:31] <cK^instigator> didnt ask for any mods to be installed.
#1121 [11:31] <BarryCarlyon> Looks like your server admin has.
#1122 [11:31] <malteee> thanks
#1123 [11:31] <malteee> bye
#1124 [11:32] <cK^instigator> is the groups.txt not part of the vanilla setup?
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#1127 [11:34] <BarryCarlyon> cK^instigator: that is correct
#1128 [11:34] <mib_nfie8b> my minecraft screen says done loading then freezes lol?
#1129 [11:34] <cK^instigator> ok thanks alot BarryCarlyon!
#1130 [11:34] <BarryCarlyon> cK^instigator: no problem you should probably find out what has been installed.
#1131 [11:34] <zelda> hello barrycarlyon im the person that had trouble with my so calle dop yesterday
#1132 [11:35] <BarryCarlyon> The command /home usually telepors you home, and /spawn sounds like it will set the map spawn point to where you are.
#1133 [11:35] <BarryCarlyon> mib_nfie8b: if you are on windows check your graphics card drivers are up to date.
#1134 [11:35] <zelda> :D im having trouble with skins
#1135 [11:36] <zelda> not a smile on my face though
#1136 [11:36] <BarryCarlyon> zelda: download from minecraftskins or make own, then on minecraft.net login goto profile and upload, if it fails then minecraft.net is not working properly at the moment, as per usual.
#1137 [11:36] <zelda> i should use the website that says the skindex right
#1138 [11:37] <zelda> it says it was attacked recently
#1139 [11:37] <zelda> i know that sbad but what does that have to do with not getting skins :/
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#1141 [11:38] <zelda> so what should i do, do you know when skins are going to work agaim
#1142 [11:39] <feenyx> zelda: there is no possible way we would know before they actually are, since we don't work for the company :)
#1143 [11:40] <zelda> feenyx : ummm k then does that mean notch has no power over the skins
#1144 [11:40] <BarryCarlyon> basically skindex and minecraftskins are just repositoriyes where people share skins.
#1145 [11:40] <BarryCarlyon> In order to use a skin you need to upload it to minecraft.net
#1146 [11:40] <BarryCarlyon> I made my own skin and uploaded.
#1147 [11:41] <zelda> so there is a second website called minecraft skins hmmmmmm maybe i should try that one
#1148 [11:41] <BarryCarlyon> No.
#1149 [11:41] <BarryCarlyon> You are not really listening.
#1150 [11:41] <zelda> iyou made your own skin
#1151 [11:42] <BarryCarlyon> Regardless of where you get the skin from, direct upload from a site to minecraft.net is broken. So you need to download the skin from whereever you find it and upload.
#1152 [11:42] <BarryCarlyon> You can use the send to minecraft or the upload to minecraft buttons that these sites have.
#1153 [11:42] <BarryCarlyon> As they are borked.
#1154 [11:42] <zelda> hehe oh i see
#1155 [11:43] <BarryCarlyon> Both minecraft skins and skindex are nothing to do with Notch and mojang they are community sites like this channel.
#1156 [11:44] <zelda> hmmmm but skindex says they were attacked so would that mean i could get another skin from the minecraftskins website
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#1158 [11:44] <zelda> :/
#1159 [11:44] <BarryCarlyon> Turns out skindex is minecraftskins.
#1160 [11:45] <zelda> serioussky
#1161 [11:45] <zelda> seriously
#1162 [11:45] <zelda> same thimg
#1163 [11:45] <zelda> let me check
#1164 [11:45] <zelda> sec..
#1165 [11:48] <zelda> i cant access minecraftskins from my computer
#1166 [11:48] <zelda> so im stuck with skindex until it works
#1167 [11:48] <BarryCarlyon> No.
#1168 [11:49] <zelda> what do you mean ??????
#1169 [11:49] <BarryCarlyon> Skindex url is http://www.minecraftskins.com/ which I thought was as .net its not. Either way, download skin form site, and then upload to minecraf.net, or use mcskinedit and make your own.
#1170 [11:50] <zelda> you can make your own??? does it cost money??? do tell
#1171 [11:51] <zelda> is there a website i can go to
#1172 [11:52] <zelda> but isnt it money
#1173 [11:52] <zelda> :D
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#1175 [11:54] <zelda> are you there
#1176 [11:54] <zelda> barry
#1177 [11:54] <zelda> buddy
#1178 [11:54] <zelda> carlyon
#1179 [11:59] <zelda> ho w do you make a step
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#1181 [12:02] <Shadow386> zelda go look on the minecraft wiki
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#1190 [12:15] <sec-macik> hello
#1191 [12:16] <sec-macik> can somebody help me with minecraft problem? pm me
#1192 [12:17] <sec-macik> i cant install it
#1193 [12:19] <relsqui> please don't ask for help in PM; this is a help channel, keeping it public benefits everyone
#1194 [12:19] <relsqui> just explain the problem you've been having
#1195 [12:19] <relsqui> what did you try to do, and what exactly happens when you try
#1196 [12:20] <relsqui> and then stick around a little bit; someone who's not active right now might come back and see it
#1197 [12:20] <sec-macik> ok
#1198 [12:20] <sec-macik> so..i want to open minecraft.exe
#1199 [12:20] <sec-macik> then i got error with Java virtual machine..
#1200 [12:21] <sec-macik> i try do the bat script
#1201 [12:21] <sec-macik> but nothing happens
#1202 [12:21] <sec-macik> i already reinstalled java too
#1203 [12:22] <relsqui> this seems like something I personally won't know how to fix, but if you pastebin the error and link it, someone else might recognize it
#1204 [12:22] <sec-macik> Next problem,when i click exe it now dont show me the error.Just error sound of windows
#1205 [12:23] <relsqui> interesting. I wonder if a clean minecraft install would do that
#1206 [12:23] <relsqui> I need to go, but good luck with that.
#1207 [12:23] <xales> reinstall Java
#1208 [12:25] <sec-macik> already reinstalled..
#1209 [12:25] <xales> ??> sec-macik win/ddiag
#1210 [12:25] <xales> ??> sec-macik win/dxdiag
#1211 [12:25] <VoxelHead> sec-macik: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1212 [12:25] <VoxelHead> sec-macik: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#1214 [12:27] <sec-macik> do you want to upload it somewhere? the txt file?
#1215 [12:27] <xales> it said, put it on pastebin
#1216 [12:28] <sec-macik> oh yes sorry..working ot it
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#1219 [12:31] <sec-macik> http://pastebin.com/7FXu7ge9
#1220 [12:32] <xales> are you able to play in the browser?
#1221 [12:33] <sec-macik> about WHAT to play in the browser?
#1222 [12:34] <sec-macik> games?
#1223 [12:35] <xales> no
#1224 [12:35] <xales> Minecraft
#1225 [12:36] <sec-macik> I at the moment never tryed it,and to that time dont knowed i can..where i can play in browser?
#1226 [12:37] <sec-macik> away from keyboard
#1227 [12:37] <xales> http://minecraft.net/play/
#1228 [12:37] <xales> the "In browser" link right next to "Download" on the home page
#1229 [12:39] <Chr|s> why does this cld has to be so difficutl
#1230 [12:40] <Chr|s> I could of been done by now in a windows environment
#1231 [12:40] <Chr|s> cli
#1232 [12:40] <Chr|s> can't even get my world that I want to start, it autmotically starts a new one
#1233 [12:40] <xales> then you put it in the wrong place
#1234 [12:42] <Chr|s> minecraft>Server>world?
#1235 [12:42] <VoxelHead> have you tried google?
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#1237 [12:43] <xales> Chr|s: it goes in the "world" folder in the same directory as server.properties
#1238 [12:43] <Chr|s> yeah
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#1240 [12:48] <mang0> guys, the mojang support email is support@mojang.com right?
#1241 [12:48] <xales> yes, but they only suport account issues
#1242 [12:48] <xales> keep that in mind
#1243 [12:49] <Shadow386> +m still in #minecraft lol
#1244 [12:49] <mang0> ikr
#1245 [12:49] <mang0> but tbh
#1246 [12:49] <mang0> how many times did you want to ping the man?!
#1247 [12:49] <Shadow386> well that's all minecraft can support anyways besides bugs
#1248 [12:49] <mang0> so if i want to email them about name changes
#1249 [12:49] <mang0> there right?
#1250 [12:49] <Shadow386> They arent doing name changes
#1251 [12:50] <mang0> YOU LIE!
#1252 [12:50] <mang0> they are
#1253 [12:50] <Shadow386> they arent
#1254 [12:50] <mang0> A few people have said they are, but not on a large scale
#1255 [12:50] <mang0> oh well, i might as well ask
#1256 [12:50] <Shadow386> Only if it's money related
#1257 [12:50] <mang0> no harm asking XD
#1258 [12:50] <mang0> ah.
#1259 [12:51] <Shadow386> I've already asked them and they've replied, No they dont
#1260 [12:51] <mang0> Balls on toast
#1261 [12:51] <Shadow386> its too much work to go through a database of over 5 million accounts
#1262 [12:51] <mang0> Well that f**ks me up.
#1263 [12:53] <sec-macik> ok im back xales..and its working on browser
#1264 [12:53] <xales> sec-macik: all I can say is play in the browser, or try making a new account on your computer and playing with that
#1265 [12:56] <sec-macik> make new accout or reinstall OS?
#1266 [12:56] <xales> new account
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#1268 [12:58] <sec-macik> how did can help me of creating new account on windows?
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#1271 [13:10] <cc2k> what am i doing wrong if my redstone torch keeps burning when using a lever?
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#1274 [13:14] <mib_nfie8b> turn ur lever on?
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#1276 [13:19] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =(
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#1278 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Master?
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#1285 [13:44] <ConnorRoberts> hello!
#1286 [13:44] <BarryCarlyon> Hai.
#1287 [13:44] <ConnorRoberts> can someone help me please :)
#1288 [13:44] <BarryCarlyon> Don't ask to ask just ask.
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#1290 [13:45] <ConnorRoberts> i bought minecraft 2 fridays ago and it was fine but for the past 2 or 3 days i can't move :S
#1291 [13:45] <ConnorRoberts> not on single player OR multiplayer
#1292 [13:45] <BarryCarlyon> Oh. Thats odd.
#1293 [13:45] <BarryCarlyon> What operating system?
#1294 [13:45] <ConnorRoberts> google hasn't brought back anything
#1295 [13:46] <ConnorRoberts> Windows 7
#1296 [13:46] <BarryCarlyon> euw
#1297 [13:46] <BarryCarlyon> you on the new launcher?
#1298 [13:46] <ConnorRoberts> not sure but browser version im frozen on too :S
#1299 [13:46] <BarryCarlyon> Sounds like a java problem then.
#1300 [13:46] <BarryCarlyon> Reinstall java.
#1301 [13:47] <feenyx> I was gonna say, try reinstalling Java
#1302 [13:47] <ConnorRoberts> okay :)
#1303 [13:47] <BarryCarlyon> And/o check its up to date.
#1304 [13:47] <ConnorRoberts> thanks :) will let you know how i get on
#1305 [13:47] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#1306 [13:47] <BarryCarlyon> Good luck.
#1307 [13:47] <VoxelHead> ^_^
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#1312 [13:56] <ConnorRoberts> reinstalled java and still frozon :/
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#1319 [14:14] <Mathuin> Quiet, or nobody home?
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#1323 [14:29] <mib_cz6rvv> hello
#1324 [14:29] <mib_cz6rvv> can anyone help me?
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#1326 [14:37] <Morrolan> mib: Just ask.
#1327 [14:37] <Morrolan> Oh, nvm, he ain't here anymore.
#1328 [14:38] <Mathuin> He waited roughly 13 seconds.
#1329 [14:42] <surfhai> my laptop (archlinux running) slows the cpu speed down if I start minecraft, it only runs at 800MHz instead of 2,5GHz
#1330 [14:42] <surfhai> is this a known bug?
#1331 [14:43] <surfhai> when I kill minecraft it is normal... ondemand speed
#1332 [14:43] <surfhai> when this happen I can do this: su -c "echo 2501000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq"
#1333 [14:43] <surfhai> to fix it a while
#1334 [14:43] <surfhai> and then it is at 800MHz again
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#1374 [14:58] <Nyxe> any ideas why monsters arent spawning in multiplayer for me ?
#1375 [14:58] <Nyxe> spawn-monsters=true
#1376 [14:58] <Nyxe> online-mode=true
#1377 [14:58] <Nyxe> spawn-animals=true
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#1380 [14:58] <Nyxe> :/
#1381 [14:59] <Nyxe> anyone have any idea why there are no monsters spawning on my multiplayer server?
#1382 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> Nyxe: is your client set to peaceful?
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#1384 [15:03] <Mathuin> surfhai: I have never seen the speed-drop thing. Are you doing anything else?
#1385 [15:03] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: can you set the client to peaceful in MP?
#1386 [15:04] <surfhai> I have done a video to demonstrate it :)
#1387 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Mathuin: you can set the client; I'm not sure if it actually effects the server, but I thought it'd be worth checking at least.
#1388 [15:05] <Mathuin> DopeGhoti: certainly.
#1389 [15:05] <Mandreas> !check 96.248.122.208
#1390 [15:05] <Nyxe> its multiplayer, so my client shouldnt affect it
#1391 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Nyxe: even so, is it set thus?
#1392 [15:05] <Nyxe> spawn-monsters=true
#1393 [15:06] <Nyxe> normal difficulty
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#1396 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> Hm.
#1397 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> Is it dark out.
#1398 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> s/\./?/
#1399 [15:06] <Nyxe> sometimes :P
#1400 [15:06] <Ose> i'm trying to figure out this texture pack business. where can I find the texture for the iron door? i'm looking at the files inside the .jar but I can only find door.png (which appears to be the wooden door)
#1401 [15:06] <VoxelHead> I like TV.
#1402 [15:07] <Nyxe> no monsters, and my trees arent growing. i was trying this "survival island" map
#1403 [15:07] <Mathuin> Nyxe: do you have the ability to run MCEdit or a simialr editor that can relight your map?
#1404 [15:07] <Mandreas> !check 96.248.122.208
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#1406 [15:07] <Xerati> VoxelHead hi man
#1407 [15:08] <Xerati> douche >_>
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#1409 [15:09] <Nyxe> relight? i can just type /set time 0
#1410 [15:09] <Xerati> no, /time set
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#1412 [15:09] <Vaegir> Hey there?
#1413 [15:09] <Nyxe> yea
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#1415 [15:09] <Nyxe> i can hear zombies underground, but none above at night
#1416 [15:10] <Nyxe> no squid in sea either
#1417 [15:10] <Mathuin> By "relight" I do not mean "change time", I mean "tell the software to recalculate all the lightmaps and stuff".
#1418 [15:10] <Vaegir> Anyone knows about setting up minecraft servers?
#1419 [15:10] <Xerati> download, run
#1420 [15:11] <Xerati> that was easy
#1421 [15:11] <Vaegir> Hmm?
#1422 [15:11] <Mathuin> Vaegir: you're going to have to be way more specific with your questions if you hope to get useful answers. :-)
#1423 [15:11] <Vaegir> Okay,let me get into detail then.
#1424 [15:11] <Vaegir> I have a VPS at my disposal with 500gb bandwith.
#1425 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> to answer your question; yes, several people know about setting up servers.
#1426 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> Next victim?
#1427 [15:12] <Xerati> kekeke
#1428 [15:12] <Vaegir> I want to know if it is possible to set up a dedicated server there.
#1429 [15:12] <Vaegir> and if the bandwith is enough.
#1430 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: what sort of CPU; RAM?
#1431 [15:12] <ALT3RNAT1V3> how can get a welcome message to come up when people connect to my server
#1432 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> 0.5TB ought to be enough
#1433 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> ALT3RNAT1V3: not possible without mods or wrappers.
#1434 [15:12] <Vaegir> hmm I am not sure about CPU,ram is 1gb.
#1435 [15:12] <Vaegir> Does it need to run minecraft?
#1436 [15:12] <ALT3RNAT1V3> i have MCAdmin how do i do with that?
#1437 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: 1GiB of RAM is barely enough- Mineraft itself allocates 1GiB on startup
#1438 [15:13] <Nyxe> ill try grab mcedit
#1439 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> ALT3RNAT1V3 mods
#1440 [15:13] <VoxelHead> ALT3RNAT1V3: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1441 [15:13] <VoxelHead> ALT3RNAT1V3: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1442 [15:13] <ALT3RNAT1V3> right
#1443 [15:13] <Vaegir> I see..so Dope the VPS actually has to have Minecraft running?
#1444 [15:14] <Vaegir> Cannot control it via a DOS panel or something?
#1445 [15:14] <Mathuin> Were I to run a Minecraft server, and I might soon, I would probalby do it on a purpose-built server.
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#1447 [15:14] <Mathuin> From a "professional" vendor, etc. Still haven't decided, have about a week to worry about it.
#1448 [15:15] <Vaegir> I know..I did not have setting a minecraft server when I bought the VPS.
#1449 [15:15] <Vaegir> I have completed my work on it
#1450 [15:15] * Kealper rawrs
#1450 [15:15] <Vaegir> and am possibly looking for alternative uses.
#1451 [15:15] <Mathuin> Kealper: want to hear something funny?
#1452 [15:15] <Kealper> sure lol
#1453 [15:15] <Mathuin> The local chapter of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation is having their annual unconference in two weeks. I'm going to go and give a presentation on TopoMC. :-P
#1454 [15:16] <Kealper> that's rather epic lol
#1455 [15:16] <Mathuin> So I'm gonna have to rent a server, make a map of the local area, blah blah blah.
#1456 [15:16] <Mathuin> Hopefully they can help me with my bugs.
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#1458 [15:16] <Kealper> now just to make an easy GUI for it
#1459 [15:16] <Nyxe> This mcedit doesnt work, its for single player
#1460 [15:17] <Nyxe> anyone got any idea why zombies wont spawn, and crops wont grow... something to do with lighting :( ?
#1461 [15:17] <Mathuin> Nyxe: you down the map, run mce.py on the map, save it, start the map up again.
#1462 [15:17] <Kealper> uhh....
#1463 [15:17] <Nyxe> ok
#1464 [15:18] <Mathuin> I think there's even a "relight" command in mce, but it's been a while.
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#1466 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: if you want to run a minecraft server, you have to have the server running, yes.
#1467 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> Nyxe: are you running any mods on the server at all?
#1468 [15:19] <Vaegir> DopeGhoti,is the server running means the game open?
#1469 [15:19] <Vaegir> or is there some sort of remote server control system.
#1470 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: the server and the client are to different things.
#1471 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> er, two.
#1472 [15:21] <Vaegir> and is a server hard to maintain?
#1473 [15:21] <Kealper> not really
#1474 [15:21] <Vaegir> I mean,I am quite the novice when it comes to Minecraft Multiplayer.
#1475 [15:21] <Vaegir> I have been on servers where they disallow modification of ingame elements.
#1476 [15:22] <Vaegir> (ie:I break a block,it comes back)
#1477 [15:22] <Vaegir> What I am looking forward to is co-operative work,if that made sense?
#1478 [15:22] <Vaegir> Is it possible
#1479 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> it certainly is
#1480 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> Is your VPS running Linux, Windows, Haiku, BSD, or some other OS (and if so, which)?
#1481 [15:23] <Vaegir> I am running CentOS,Linux.
#1482 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> okay, `yum install sun-java6-jre screen`
#1483 [15:24] <Vaegir> Java is installed :)
#1484 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> and screen?
#1485 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> (that's how you keep the server running without keeping your shell open all the time)
#1486 [15:25] <Vaegir> ah,let me try
#1487 [15:25] <Nyxe> how do i make MCEdit "relight my map", mathiun ?
#1488 [15:26] <Vaegir> Okay its being installed.
#1489 [15:26] <Vaegir> already installed
#1490 [15:26] <Vaegir> Package screen-4.0.3-1.el5_4.1.i386 already installed and latest version Nothing to do
#1491 [15:26] <Nyxe> im not running any mods no
#1492 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> super
#1493 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> once you have the server downloaded, run it with `screen -S minecraft-server "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"`
#1494 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> once you see the server is running, press ^A, then d
#1495 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> and it will be running in the background
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#1497 [15:30] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#1498 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> to reattach to the server console, use `screen -x minecraft-server`
#1499 [15:30] <Nyxe> I download MCedit, how do i make it relight my map? do i load the map?
#1500 [15:30] <Vaegir> Where can I download the server?
#1501 [15:30] <Nyxe> had to reconnect, mirc was buggy
#1502 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> !server
#1503 [15:32] <Nyxe> Mathuin: any ideas?
#1504 [15:33] <Vaegir> Alright,giving it a try.Will post back here.
#1505 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: we'll be here. Good luck!
#1506 [15:33] <Mathuin> Open the map with mce.py, and then save?
#1507 [15:34] <Kealper> so... Nyxe are you sure it's even the map that is the problem? (does it work right on other maps?)
#1508 [15:34] <Nyxe> ive hosted many multiplayers, always had monsters
#1509 [15:34] <Nyxe> maybe its because the islands so small?
#1510 [15:34] <Nyxe> monsters cant spawn close to me or something ?
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#1512 [15:35] <Nyxe> what is pce.py
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#1514 [15:35] <Nyxe> mce*
#1515 [15:35] <Nyxe> all i have is,mcedit.exe
#1516 [15:35] <Kealper> Nyxe: monsters will not spawn close to you, or in areas above like...light level 7 or something
#1517 [15:36] <Nyxe> maybe the islands just too small
#1518 [15:36] <Nyxe> but its meant to be small, "survival island"
#1519 [15:36] <Kealper> it's something like they will not spawn in a 20 block radius around the player
#1520 [15:36] <Nyxe> mmh
#1521 [15:36] <Nyxe> ill try make a fresh server
#1522 [15:36] <Nyxe> see if monsters spawn
#1523 [15:37] <Mathuin> mcedit.exe then, run that.
#1524 [15:37] <Vaegir> DopeGhoti,it cannot be executed?
#1525 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> Nyxe: monsters can't spawn withnin about 24 blocks of your location in any dirction
#1526 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: come again?
#1527 [15:37] <Kealper> oh, 24...meh
#1528 [15:37] <VoxelHead> not without lubricant
#1529 [15:37] <Kealper> lol
#1530 [15:37] <Mathuin> ...
#1531 [15:37] * DopeGhoti gives VoxelHead some lubricant
#1531 [15:37] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti++
#1532 [15:38] * DopeGhoti has been incremented!
#1532 [15:38] <Kealper> by what step though?
#1533 [15:38] <Kealper> >>>
#1534 [15:38] <Kealper> >.>*
#1535 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> clearly, by one increment.
#1536 [15:40] <Kealper> i think i hate nicklist.pl over screen
#1537 [15:41] <Kealper> i think i'll just have that loaded but not on....and just turn it on if i need it...lol
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#1539 [15:41] <Coll> why was Nyxe banned?
#1540 [15:41] <Kealper> huh?
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#1543 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> Coll: ey's right there.
#1544 [15:42] <Kealper> he/she is still in here....
#1545 [15:42] * DopeGhoti points
#1545 [15:42] <Coll> odd
#1546 [15:42] <Mathuin> Funny sort of ban, that.
#1547 [15:42] <Coll> Nyxe was booted from #MineCraftHelp by VoxelHead (Banned)
#1548 [15:42] <Coll> his isnt real then?
#1549 [15:42] * DopeGhoti waves at Nyxe
#1549 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> Coll: when was this?
#1550 [15:43] <Coll> not too too long ago
#1551 [15:43] <Coll> I guess maybe an hour or two
#1552 [15:43] * Kealper scrolls up
#1552 [15:43] <Coll> it seems to have been after a netsplit
#1553 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> ah, no
#1554 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> ey flooded, aubot banned, and vox enforced the ban, heh
#1555 [15:44] <Kealper> turn that off then
#1556 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> I did.
#1557 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> see?
#1558 [15:45] <Kealper> (that was aubot as a test)
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#1561 [15:45] <ffrogman> hi, I'm having problem with a bukkit server could someone help me?
#1562 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> ffrogman mods
#1563 [15:45] <VoxelHead> ffrogman: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1564 [15:45] <VoxelHead> ffrogman: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1565 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> does the server play nice if you run it with no mods, ffrogman?
#1566 [15:46] <VoxelHead> Bye Skiingpenguins.
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#1568 [15:48] <ffrogman> ah it does DopeGhoti; I'll go to #Bukkit
#1569 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> ffrogman: good luck!
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#1571 [15:50] <Vaegir> I cannot get to execute linux file..tough luck.
#1572 [15:50] <Vaegir> jR.*
#1573 [15:50] <Vaegir> jar*
#1574 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: what exactly happens when you try?
#1575 [15:50] <VoxelHead> a snowboard
#1576 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#1577 [15:50] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1578 [15:50] <Mathuin> Is anyone here knowledgable about the for-pay server offerings?
#1579 [15:50] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1580 [15:51] <Vaegir> It says its not executable.
#1581 [15:51] <Vaegir> let me paste what I read.
#1582 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: and how exactly are you trying to run the jar? with the 'java' command I gave you a while ago, right?
#1583 [15:51] <VoxelHead> what do you think?
#1584 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: I don't know; that's why I'm adking.
#1585 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> asking.
#1586 [15:52] <Vaegir> Yeah exactly with the same command.
#1587 [15:52] <Vaegir> Above I read Cannot exec java file
#1588 [15:52] <Vaegir> [root@vps ~]# `screen -S minecraft-server "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"` [screen is terminating]
#1589 [15:52] <Vaegir> By above I meant the status bar.
#1590 [15:53] <TobiX> Vaegir: Does just "java" work?
#1591 [15:53] <VoxelHead> no, never, not me
#1592 [15:54] <Vaegir> Trying.
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#1595 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> vox, be quiet
#1596 [15:55] <VoxelHead> fine
#1597 [15:55] <Vaegir> [root@vps ~]# "java -Xmx1000M -Xms1000M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui" bash: java -Xmx1000M -Xms1000M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui: command not found
#1598 [15:55] <Vaegir> bash?
#1599 [15:56] <Mathuin> Why are you doing it in quotes.
#1600 [15:56] <MrWGW> if I position torches on open land every five tiles, in a grid
#1601 [15:56] <TobiX> Vaegir: remove the quotes
#1602 [15:56] <MrWGW> is that sufficient to keep away hostile mobs?
#1603 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> because he's only running part of the command I have him.
#1604 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> the full command is: `screen -S minecraft-server "java -Xmx1000M -Xms1000M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"`
#1605 [15:56] <Vaegir> Unable to access jarfile minecraft_server.jar
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#1607 [15:57] <MrWGW> Vaegir: check your path to the .jar file on your server
#1608 [15:57] <Vaegir> Do I need to specify where the file is located? Its on desktop.
#1609 [15:57] <TobiX> Vaegir: 1. Don't run the minecraft server as root.
#1610 [15:57] <Vaegir> I used to do cd Desktop/file
#1611 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> okay, let's try it withouth screen: `java -Xmx1000M -Xms1000M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui` from the directory in which minecraft_server.jar lives
#1612 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> MrWGW: every seven tiles even will do the trick IIRC (:
#1613 [15:57] <MrWGW> good
#1614 [15:58] <MrWGW> because I had really overdone it with candles and I looked at my island and it actually scared me
#1615 [15:58] <MrWGW> looked like some Satanic ritual grounds or something
#1616 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> heh
#1617 [15:58] <MrWGW> I'm tempted to flood part of it as a quickfire way of killing off all those darn torches
#1618 [15:58] <Mathuin> will torches burn underwater?
#1619 [15:58] <Mathuin> That would be awesome if so.
#1620 [15:58] <MrWGW> my thought is to go with a 5 x 5 grid though to provide a margin of safety in the event of torch sfailure
#1621 [15:58] <MrWGW> Mathuin: no
#1622 [15:59] <Vaegir> Pouring water didnt seem to affect my lit torches.
#1623 [15:59] <MrWGW> its worked for me historically
#1624 [15:59] <MrWGW> it knocked the torches out IIRC
#1625 [15:59] <MrWGW> that was a while ago
#1626 [15:59] * MrWGW thinks
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#1627 [16:00] <MrWGW> by the way, are there any mods that provide faux electric lighting or spotlights or anything that might be used to suppress mobs over a wide area?
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#1629 [16:01] <Vaegir> Error occurred during initialization of VM Could not reserve enough space for object heap Could not create the Java virtual machine.
#1630 [16:01] <Vaegir> big problem?
#1631 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: not enough RAM
#1632 [16:01] <TobiX> Vaegir: Hom much RAM does your server have?
#1633 [16:01] <VoxelHead> we get signal
#1634 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> or you didn't run it with all the switches.
#1635 [16:01] <Vaegir> I *think* it is 1gb.
#1636 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> `java -Xmx1000M -Xms1000M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui`
#1637 [16:01] <MrWGW> my most powerful server is a Sun x4600 M2 with 32 GB of memory (it scales to 512 GB) and 8 Opteron 8220s
#1638 [16:02] <MrWGW> beautiful NUMA system
#1639 [16:02] <MrWGW> and its not running Minecraft either
#1640 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> if you don't include the -X switches, you will get that error.
#1641 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> NUMA, as in the Toyota factory?
#1642 [16:02] <MrWGW> Non Uniform Memory Architecture
#1643 [16:02] <MrWGW> I run vSphere 4.1 on it
#1644 [16:02] <MrWGW> oh dudes, on the server program, that's strictly Java, right?
#1645 [16:02] <MrWGW> I really want to try running it on my SPARC T1000s
#1646 [16:03] <MrWGW> on Solaris
#1647 [16:03] <MrWGW> or a Debian LDOM
#1648 [16:03] <MrWGW> would I be safe in assuming no one has tried that? :-p
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#1650 [16:03] <TobiX> MrWGW: Should work.
#1651 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> MrWGW: Java is Java.
#1652 [16:04] <MrWGW> is the server app demanding on single-thread performance or is it rather parallel?
#1653 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> single-thread
#1654 [16:04] <MrWGW> DopeGhoti: the real concern I had was if there were any C bits or other bits of crap
#1655 [16:04] <MrWGW> or anything platform-specific
#1656 [16:04] <MrWGW> references to Linuxism
#1657 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> there are a couple small helper threads, but it's almost entirely single-threaded
#1658 [16:04] <MrWGW> s
#1659 [16:04] <MrWGW> DopeGhoti: hmmm the T1000s suck at singlethread
#1660 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> most of the platform-specifics are in the clients
#1661 [16:04] <MrWGW> but meh its worth a shot
#1662 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> you do need java 1.6 IIRC
#1663 [16:05] <Vaegir> None of the -Xmx commands seemed to be trigerring the command. (100,768 and even 512)
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#1665 [16:05] <MrWGW> the T1000s run Solaris 11 Express and have the latest Java
#1666 [16:05] <Vaegir> Hmm perhaps Im in need of an upgrade?
#1667 [16:05] <TobiX> MrWGW: I think there is a platform switch-case, but it might just be in the client, since it is for finding the save directory...
#1668 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: pastebin the output of `free -m` please
#1669 [16:05] <MrWGW> they have 6 core coolthreads CPUs that support 24 threads but run at a mere 1 Ghz
#1670 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> TobiX: that's client, yes
#1671 [16:05] <Vaegir> total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1536 107 1428 0 0 0 -/+ buffers/cache: 107 1428 Swap: 0 0 0
#1672 [16:06] <MrWGW> Vaegir: try 'memstat'
#1673 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> ?? pastebin
#1674 [16:06] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#1675 [16:06] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
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#1677 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> please do it on pastebin so it's not all on one line, so that it's actually readable (:
#1678 [16:06] <Vaegir> Aah I didnt mean to flood,just a second.
#1679 [16:08] <Vaegir> http://pastebin.com/guf2UAJq
#1680 [16:08] <MrWGW> well I'm going to try firing up on a T1000 later today
#1681 [16:08] <MrWGW> it might be sl0w but we'll see
#1682 [16:08] <MrWGW> I would think with mcregion Minecraft would lend itself to parallel server operation
#1683 [16:08] <MrWGW> a separate thread for each region
#1684 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> that might be the solution for SMP nether
#1685 [16:10] <TobiX> Bah, threads...
#1686 [16:11] * DopeGhoti wants a quantum M-superstring minecraft server
#1686 [16:11] <MrWGW> TobiX: or processes
#1687 [16:11] <MrWGW> that being said java supposedly makes multithreading easy
#1688 [16:12] <TobiX> Vaegir: You might try to run "java -Xmx768M -Xms768M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui" - but the performance will probably suffer...
#1689 [16:13] <TobiX> MrWGW: "easy multithreading" is an oxymoron ;)
#1690 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> Vaegir: the good news is that your system seems to have plenty of memory free for the MC server
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#1692 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> not sure why java is giving you a problem.
#1693 [16:13] <Vaegir> With the good news,comes the bad news..what are the bad news_
#1694 [16:14] <Vaegir> Nope TobiX,that command would give me the same error.
#1695 [16:14] <VoxelHead> mmm acky
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#1697 [16:16] <TobiX> Vaegir: Is there a specific reasen why you don't have any swap space on that server?
#1698 [16:16] <VoxelHead> we get signal
#1699 [16:17] <VoxelHead> where'd my moose go?
#1700 [16:17] <Vaegir> Swap space?
#1701 [16:17] <Vaegir> I have no idea..
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#1706 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> TobiX: it's a VPS.
#1707 [16:20] <Vaegir> Yep.
#1708 [16:21] <TobiX> DopeGhoti: One does not exclude the other.
#1709 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> TobiX: IIRC, some flavors of VPS have a dedicated amount of RAM and that's it.
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#1711 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> OpenVZ VPSs have "burst RAM' which is actually swap space.
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#1713 [16:22] <TobiX> So? Add some!
#1714 [16:22] <Vaegir> I believe I have burstable ram.
#1715 [16:22] <Vaegir> I host from x10
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#1721 [16:24] <TobiX> My vserver has this: /swapfile file524280 0 -2
#1722 [16:24] <TobiX> Arrg.
#1723 [16:24] <TobiX> Sorry for the botched paste. That should have been one line...
#1724 [16:25] <surfhai> here is the video with my 800MHz bug, maybe it is another problem not related to minecraft http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GEG412I0
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#1726 [16:29] <VoxelHead> i like them -_-
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#1733 [16:52] <Minni> Has anyone ever had issues with MC crashing into a black screen pretty much every 5 mins of playing :/?
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#1735 [16:53] <Mathuin> Minni: that happened to me until I cleaned y graphics card.
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#1737 [16:54] <grafit_> Hello
#1738 [16:54] <Minni> I see - so the idea would be that it was a matter of heat?
#1739 [16:54] <VoxelHead> ha ha i don't live in norwich anymore, i don't fuck pigs anymore
#1740 [16:54] <Mathuin> Minni: that was my personal experience.
#1741 [16:55] <grafit_> i would like to speak with someone from support
#1742 [16:55] <Mathuin> Does it happen with other games?
#1743 [16:55] <Mathuin> grafit_: just ask your question, folks here will help if they can.
#1744 [16:55] <Minni> @Mathuin - no not at all.. and my gfx(s) are running at normal heat.. :/
#1745 [16:56] <Mathuin> Minni: the only other thing I would say is update all your drivers and Java and crap. Other people may have mor eto say.
#1746 [16:56] <grafit_> I'm creating a social network just for minecraft players
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#1748 [16:57] <grafit_> is allowed?
#1749 [16:57] <Roll> is there a map editor which make it so i can spawn/edit chests? im refilling my brothers chests and its such a pain xD
#1750 [16:57] <Minni> yeah .. java has been spamming me with updates which ive all installed.. and GFXs ware updated 2 weeks ago.. thanks anywho :D
#1751 [16:57] <grafit_> social network like facebook,myspace,orkut
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#1753 [16:57] <grafit_> hello?!?!
#1754 [16:58] <Mathuin> grafit_: there may be existing official ones, but there's nothing to say you can't start your own.
#1755 [16:58] <Minni> well creating a social network never hurt anyone.. unles you use their mateiral then its copy right issues etc
#1756 [16:58] <grafit_> ok, but you already know if there is any social network?
#1757 [17:00] <Mathuin> Other than forums, I do not know of any off the top of my head.
#1758 [17:01] <Mathuin> The Minecraft.net website has some.
#1759 [17:01] <grafit_> hum
#1760 [17:02] <grafit_> many brazilian play minecraft? you know?
#1761 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Other than the minecraft forums, there's a Steam group for minecraft, there's a twitter following for mojang, there's facebook.
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#1764 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> There's quite a large french community for minecraft as well.
#1765 [17:02] <Mathuin> The only Facebook thing I saw was more like twitter-following.
#1766 [17:03] <Kendomo> Hey i need help with my gift code
#1767 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> The Facebook one is official, but isn't as updated as much as their twitters.
#1768 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Kendomo - What kind of help?
#1769 [17:03] <Kendomo> i THINK i typed in my e-mail wrong
#1770 [17:03] <Kendomo> i bought a code last night, and never got an e-mail back
#1771 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Check your minecraft.net profile
#1772 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> If you bought a gift code, it'll show up there
#1773 [17:04] <Kendomo> ah thanks
#1774 [17:04] <Kendomo> so it doesn't matter if i get an e-mail or not?
#1775 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1776 [17:04] <Kendomo> alright thanks!
#1777 [17:04] <Kendomo> even though it was a relatively simple answer ^_^;;
#1778 [17:04] <Kendomo> see ya
#1779 [17:08] <Mathuin> So, about for-pay servers: anyone here familiar with them? I want to know if I can rotate maps easily.
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#1781 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> It's pretty much as simple as replacing the "world" folder.
#1782 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Or, if you're running a modded server, to set up multiple worlds that way
#1783 [17:08] <Minni> Im currently running a server with servercraft.. however the map rotations are abit trick as its a manual work.
#1784 [17:09] * GreyVulpine nods
#1784 [17:09] <Mathuin> I may want to demo a handful of my maps at the unconference, didn't know if it'd be easy enough to switch between them.
#1785 [17:09] <Mathuin> I don't expect to have shell access on one of these pro servers, just some clicky-clicky.
#1786 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> With vanilla, it's manual.
#1787 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to either move the 'world' folder.. or edit the server.properties to point to a new folder
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#1789 [17:10] <Mathuin> Well, yeah, I've done that with symlinks.
#1790 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> If you're running bukkit however, there's this:
#1791 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/misc-tp-fun-multiverse-v1-5-netherportals-to-multiple-worlds-440-531.3707/
#1792 [17:11] <VoxelHead> Cabbages.
#1793 [17:11] <Mathuin> So when did the bot get Tourette's?
#1794 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> The bot's got a mind of its own
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#1796 [17:15] <surfhai> no one knows what is causing this cpu slow down? http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GEG412I0
#1797 [17:20] <Mathuin> surfhai: post on the forums, so more people can look at it. :-(
#1798 [17:25] <surfhai> I've solved it, maybe...
#1799 [17:30] <surfhai> hmm, not solved :)
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#1802 [17:37] <sky26> Hi
#1803 [17:37] <sky26> Im not able to connect to the minecraft chat
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#1805 [17:39] <VoxelHead> bye sky26
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#1814 [17:57] <Saratar> hi
#1815 [17:57] <Saratar> new to minecraft, anyone want to build something with me?
#1816 [18:01] <Xerati> sure
#1817 [18:01] <Saratar> hi Xerati
#1818 [18:01] <Xerati> hi
#1819 [18:02] <VoxelHead> i like them =D
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#1822 [18:08] <mib_9ynvpx> what does the server mean if it says "fail to bind port"
#1823 [18:09] <xales> that you already have the server running, or you put an IP address in server.properties
#1824 [18:09] <xales> if you put an IP address in the server.properties file, you must remove it
#1825 [18:09] <mib_9ynvpx> i made a host on no-ip.com
#1826 [18:09] <mib_9ynvpx> and if i dont put one there will that mean people cant connect?
#1827 [18:09] <xales> no, it does not work like that
#1828 [18:10] <mib_9ynvpx> so just remove it and it will be fine?
#1829 [18:10] <xales> if you put an IP address in server.properties, the server will not work
#1830 [18:10] <xales> yes
#1831 [18:10] <mib_9ynvpx> damn british person
#1832 [18:10] <mib_9ynvpx> telling me wrong
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#1834 [18:14] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go =[
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#1838 [18:19] <TobiX> surfhai: IMHO this is pretty normal CPU scaling behaviour on Linux (at least for the ondemand governour). Try "cpufreq-info" for statistics...
#1839 [18:20] <TobiX> My system after an hour of Minecraft: Statistik:2.60 GHz:10,78%, 1.30 GHz:89,22% (114091)
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#1841 [18:21] <surfhai> 100% at 800MHz while there is stuff to calclulate?
#1842 [18:21] <surfhai> that is not normal behavior
#1843 [18:21] <Kealper> 800Mhz what?
#1844 [18:27] <surfhai> http://pastie.org/1676315
#1845 [18:27] <surfhai> while playing
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#1847 [18:27] <surfhai> momentane Taktik: die Frequenz soll innerhalb 800 MHz und 800 MHz.
#1848 [18:28] <surfhai> sorry, its german
#1849 [18:28] <surfhai> frequency between 800MHz and 800MHz...
#1850 [18:28] <surfhai> thats my problem
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#1852 [18:28] <surfhai> only if I play minecraft
#1853 [18:29] <Jackson413> hey dudes
#1854 [18:29] <Jackson413> i am launching my server with a .bat file
#1855 [18:29] <Jackson413> and im wondering if i can like hide the window once the bat file is launched
#1856 [18:29] <Jackson413> i dont mind if it flashes up at the startup
#1857 [18:30] <Kealper> there are.....ways
#1858 [18:30] <Kealper> mine hides as soon as it starts up :P
#1859 [18:34] <TobiX> surfhai: It looks like "something" fixes scaling_max_freq to 800MHz. Which is weird, since I don't think Java knows anything about CPU Frequency scaling... So it must be something else...
#1860 [18:34] <TobiX> Jackson413: There are many freeware tools to hide console windows...
#1861 [18:34] <Mathuin> surfhai: have you considered using strace or something to look at system calls?
#1862 [18:35] <Jackson413> there isnt anything i can put in the .bat file that i can hide once its been exec'd?
#1863 [18:35] <TobiX> surfhai: Dies the maximum stay at 800 after exiting Minecraft?
#1864 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Not really, you can trick cmd itself to move itself off the screen when launched.. or you can get a third party programm..
#1865 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> program*
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#1867 [18:36] <Kilo> hello?
#1868 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1869 [18:36] <Kilo> oh hi
#1870 [18:36] <Kilo> i can get help for minecraft here right?
#1871 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Indeed you can
#1872 [18:36] <Kilo> cool :)
#1873 [18:36] <Kilo> i have some pretty big issues...
#1874 [18:36] <surfhai> TobiX: no
#1875 [18:36] <Kilo> well - 2 to be exact
#1876 [18:37] <Kilo> im starting to think they are connected
#1877 [18:37] <xales> Kilo: and what are they?
#1878 [18:38] <Kilo> 1) When i log onto a multiplayer server the map doesnt generate - me and any zombies, chickens etc all just start falling down
#1879 [18:38] <VoxelHead> yes... wait a minute... no.
#1880 [18:38] <xales> Voxel, shut up
#1881 [18:38] <TobiX> surfhai: Anything in the kernel log about this? "dmesg | tail"?
#1882 [18:38] <Kilo> then eventually a chunk will generate, but it will take forever for any more to generate and sometimes i dont think they will at all
#1883 [18:39] <surfhai> nothing
#1884 [18:39] <xales> Kilo: http://speedtest.net/ paste result link
#1885 [18:39] <surfhai> related to this
#1886 [18:39] <Kilo> until i have just realised - if i push esc and sit there for about 10 seconds loads of the map generates (as far as i can see)
#1887 [18:39] <Kilo> doing it now....
#1888 [18:39] <Kilo> kernel log?
#1889 [18:40] <xales> Kilo: wasn't talking to you
#1890 [18:40] <Kilo> ping 75ms download 4.45mbps upload 0.67mbps
#1891 [18:40] <Kilo> sorry =P
#1892 [18:40] <xales> have you tried a different server?
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#1894 [18:40] <Kilo> yeah, all the ones i have tried are the same
#1895 [18:42] <xales> hmm
#1896 [18:42] <xales> does it lag in singleplayer?
#1897 [18:42] <Kilo> i have the second problem of once im on the server i cant really interact with anything - if i destroy a block it will dissappear, about 10 seconds later reappear, then in another 5-10 it will dissappear and give me the item (eg dirt)
#1898 [18:42] <Kilo> not in the slightest no
#1899 [18:42] <Kilo> i never used to have this problem either
#1900 [18:42] <surfhai> Kilo: which internet connection do you have?
#1901 [18:42] <xales> when did it start?
#1902 [18:42] <Kilo> i think its bt now
#1903 [18:43] <Kilo> about a week back?
#1904 [18:43] <surfhai> how fast?
#1905 [18:43] <Kilo> maybe longer ago
#1906 [18:43] <Kilo> 5mb
#1907 [18:43] <xales> ??> Kilo win/reinst
#1908 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Kilo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1909 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Kilo: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1910 [18:43] <surfhai> hm, I have no problems with 385kbit/s :)
#1911 [18:44] <Kilo> ill give it a shot - thanks...
#1912 [18:45] <Kilo> no deal...
#1913 [18:45] <Kilo> just falling
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#1915 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> ??> Kilo win/profile
#1916 [18:46] <VoxelHead> Kilo: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1917 [18:46] <Kilo> and now its generated loads cos i pushed esc
#1918 [18:46] <VoxelHead> Kilo: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1919 [18:46] <Kilo> Tried it, its my pc side
#1920 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> stop your torrents? (:
#1921 [18:47] <Kilo> i havent torrented in months, bittorrent does normally open on boot but i closed it earlier today
#1922 [18:47] <Kilo> and my minecraft isnt torrented - in case you were thinking of asking
#1923 [18:48] <xales> try the server "smp.shadow-craft.net" - you might just be unlucky with servers
#1924 [18:48] <Kilo> i started falling, but it has generated alot faster...
#1925 [18:49] <Kilo> although i still cant interact propperly
#1926 [18:49] <xales> do you have any firewall software running on your computer?
#1927 [18:49] <Kilo> destroyed a block
#1928 [18:49] <Kilo> its re-appeared
#1929 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Kilo: instantly? that could be spawn protection
#1930 [18:50] <Kilo> just thinking that, because it hasnt dropped anything for me at all...
#1931 [18:50] <Kilo> i have mcaffee on yes
#1932 [18:50] <xales> that could be related
#1933 [18:50] <xales> mcafee is known to cause problems with...everything
#1934 [18:50] <Kilo> true.
#1935 [18:51] <ionface> mcafee is what IT people install on computers...
#1936 [18:51] <ionface> of people they hate
#1937 [18:51] <Kilo> hmm... i think minecraft is on the exceptions list...
#1938 [18:51] <xales> Kilo: even so
#1939 [18:52] <xales> try disabling it completely, or uninstalling it
#1940 [18:52] <Kilo> Thats a very good point actually... i think this may have started when i get a slightly different version of mcaffee
#1941 [18:53] <Kilo> gonna have to find out how to get to the exceptions again...
#1942 [18:53] <Kilo> found it.
#1943 [18:53] <Kilo> i do hate mcaffee.....
#1944 [18:53] <xales> an exception won't really fix it
#1945 [18:53] <xales> if you hate it, uninstall it?
#1946 [18:54] <Kilo> my dads paid for all the family to have the top of the range one they do.. he would probably disown me if i got rid of it... it would have to be a last option
#1947 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, mcaffee
#1948 [18:56] <aetherian> I don't understand why anyone pays for antivirus anymore
#1949 [18:56] <xales> "anymore" (:
#1950 [18:57] <aetherian> as in, now-a-days
#1951 [18:58] <Kilo> minecraft wasnt named in the list
#1952 [18:58] <Kilo> so i have added it
#1953 [18:59] <Kilo> falling...
#1954 [18:59] <Kilo> now esc wont even rapidly generate terrain
#1955 [18:59] <xales> try completely disabling it (you can re-enable it later)
#1956 [18:59] <Kilo> and i still cant interact... gonna try one more thing quickly
#1957 [19:00] <Kilo> have you ever tried to disable mcafee?
#1958 [19:00] <VoxelHead> We get signal.
#1959 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#1960 [19:00] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#1960 [19:00] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#1961 [19:00] <aetherian> haha
#1962 [19:00] <Kilo> hehe
#1963 [19:02] <Kilo> is it the firewall i need to disable right?
#1964 [19:02] <xales> yes
#1965 [19:02] <xales> but disable everything if possible
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#1969 [19:04] <Kilo> nothing...
#1970 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> If your parental unit would disown you for disabling software, crummy or otherwise, your parental unit needs some serious counselling IMO
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#1972 [19:04] <Kilo> hehe, you have no idea
#1973 [19:04] <aetherian> not disown, just... kill :)
#1974 [19:05] <Kilo> even if i run into a sheep and push it (i cant hit them to get wool) it will jump back to the spot it was in before i interacted
#1975 [19:05] <VoxelHead> wooo... I like destroying
#1976 [19:05] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead
#1976 [19:05] * VoxelHead tfs GreyVulpine in return
#1976 [19:05] <ThuGie> hey
#1977 [19:05] <ThuGie> question is there a beta server that doesnt use java ?
#1978 [19:06] <ThuGie> or isnt just a modded original version like bukkit ?
#1979 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Not offically.
#1980 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Bravo is one, but as far as I know, it isn't complete
#1981 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> programmed in python
#1982 [19:06] <aetherian> VoxelHead, courtmartial VoxelHead
#1983 [19:06] <ThuGie> uhm will google it :)
#1984 [19:06] <VoxelHead> Duh.
#1985 [19:06] <xales> there is one in C++ as well
#1986 [19:06] <xales> mcserver I think
#1987 [19:06] <Mathuin> There's a channel on freenode, forget its name.
#1988 [19:07] <ThuGie> isnt mcserver classic ?
#1989 [19:07] <TobiX> McAfee isn't the worst. If you really hate someone, install Panda AV with only 1GB of RAM. THAT is a PITA!
#1990 [19:07] * GreyVulpine pffts
#1990 [19:07] <Kilo> is there anything else i can try for this?
#1991 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> If you hate somebody, install AVG
#1992 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> or, what's that other free one
#1993 [19:07] <Mathuin> Hey I liked AVG.
#1994 [19:08] * GreyVulpine has never had good experiences doing tech support for people that used AVG
#1994 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> False positives up the wazoo
#1995 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. was it antivir that was the other one?
#1996 [19:08] <TobiX> GreyVulpine: Avast or Avira?
#1997 [19:08] <aetherian> avg isn't too bad
#1998 [19:08] <VoxelHead> What do you think?
#1999 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Avast
#2000 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> That was it
#2001 [19:08] <aetherian> malwarebytes is the bomb
#2002 [19:08] <Mathuin> I hate Avast.
#2003 [19:08] <TobiX> Avast is quite ok.
#2004 [19:08] <Mathuin> It talks.
#2005 [19:08] <aetherian> arrrr
#2006 [19:08] <VoxelHead> Bhar.
#2007 [19:09] <aetherian> stfu VoxelHead
#2008 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Had somebody install AVG and Avast at the same time. While it 'works', it's horrid
#2009 [19:09] <TobiX> You can disable the voice. They even added a checkbox for that in the newest version :)
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#2011 [19:09] <Kilo> chat also doesnt do anything... wait! after about 1min 30 it actually posted my message!
#2012 [19:09] <TobiX> AVG7 added a background scanning service YOU CAN'T DISABLE!
#2013 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Oh fun
#2014 [19:10] <P5yc0> hi
#2015 [19:10] <aetherian> hi
#2016 [19:10] <P5yc0> need help xP
#2017 [19:10] <TobiX> P5yc0: THat'S what we are here for. Shoot!
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#2019 [19:11] <Kilo> so get a new virus scanner?
#2020 [19:11] <P5yc0> i have an laptop and minecraft runs slow Oo
#2021 [19:11] <P5yc0> what can i do
#2022 [19:11] <Mathuin> It runs like crap on my Eee. I suck it up. :-(
#2023 [19:12] <TobiX> I suppose it runs like crap on almost any Netbook...
#2024 [19:12] <Mathuin> Dual core 1G chip, 2G of RAM I think.
#2025 [19:12] <xales> P5yc0: get a better laptop? turn the settings down?
#2026 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> P5yc0: what video chipset has the system got?
#2027 [19:13] <P5yc0> pentium dual-core cpu t4300 @2.10ghz
#2028 [19:13] <P5yc0> ram 4,00 gb
#2029 [19:14] <P5yc0> mobile intel 4 series express chipset family
#2030 [19:14] <TobiX> That.
#2031 [19:14] <P5yc0> and my os is vista
#2032 [19:15] <xales> the GPU is the problem then
#2033 [19:15] <P5yc0> Oo dual core what???
#2034 [19:15] <xales> try installing optiming, putting graphics to "fast" and low view distance (probably "tiny")
#2035 [19:15] <P5yc0> ohh xDD gpu
#2036 [19:15] <VoxelHead> Mmm jd.
#2037 [19:15] <TobiX> P5yc0: What is the System Score regarding game graphics?
#2038 [19:16] <P5yc0> where can i look that?
#2039 [19:16] <P5yc0> but minecraft 1.2.6 runs great and 1.3 runs realy slow
#2040 [19:16] <TobiX> Ah. Lighting.
#2041 [19:17] <xales> turn off options->graphic options->smooth lighting
#2042 [19:17] <P5yc0> ok moment please i look xD
#2043 [19:18] <P5yc0> hmmm
#2044 [19:18] <P5yc0> all options are off
#2045 [19:18] <P5yc0> and fast and tiny
#2046 [19:19] <P5yc0> but why runs 1.2.6 good and 1.3 not?
#2047 [19:19] <xales> is "smooth lighting" off?
#2048 [19:19] <P5yc0> jes
#2049 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> 1.3 implements a new file format, as well as a rendering engine.
#2050 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> It's also got new bugs, that many have reported, concerning increased lag issues
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#2052 [19:20] <P5yc0> so what can i do?
#2053 [19:20] <P5yc0> without buying a new laptop or pc
#2054 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Wait for a new version. Minecraft is still only a beta, and is in an active development cycle
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#2056 [19:21] <P5yc0> hmmm but i want to play xDDD
#2057 [19:21] <TobiX> P5yc0: Are you comparing Alpha 1.2.6 with Beta 1.3? Have you tried versions in-between?
#2058 [19:22] <P5yc0> no i just have alpha 1.2.6 and now i have beta 1.3
#2059 [19:22] <P5yc0> i allways play offline
#2060 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> ...?
#2061 [19:22] <P5yc0> because i dont like online xD
#2062 [19:23] <P5yc0> so i havnt updated it
#2063 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Do you have 1.3, or 1.3_01?
#2064 [19:23] <P5yc0> 1.3_01
#2065 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Did you get the client from minecraft.net, or a third-party site?
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#2067 [19:24] <wikkit> can somebody try and connect to my server and see the lag for me?
#2068 [19:24] <P5yc0> third-party
#2069 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Then we can't help you.
#2070 [19:24] <P5yc0> >.<
#2071 [19:24] <wikkit> anybody mind doing it?
#2072 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> We provide no support here for clients that don't come from an official source, like minecraft.net. We have no idea what those sites include with the minecraft source, or how it was modified.
#2073 [19:26] <P5yc0> the client was called mcsetup.exe
#2074 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Ah, so a pirated copy.. we provide even less support for that here.
#2075 [19:26] <P5yc0> Oo i dont know
#2076 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> To download and play minecraft beta, you need to pay for an account. A premium account gives you access to minecraft's download, and its constant updates. A pirated version, does not.
#2077 [19:27] <AG_Scott> Did you pay for Minecraft?
#2078 [19:27] <wikkit> yea dude you gotta buy minecraft
#2079 [19:28] <P5yc0> i have bought minecraft
#2080 [19:28] <AG_Scott> Then download it from http://minecraft.net/
#2081 [19:28] <wikkit> i was thinking about getting a pirated version but i thought. "hey i should buy it to support the guy"
#2082 [19:28] <AG_Scott> and check your computer for malware
#2083 [19:29] <P5yc0> k
#2084 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> mcsetup.exe is not an official installer, and exes like that, have been known to inject other stuff onto a computer to make it work.
#2085 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> We know, we've provided support for people that used it.
#2086 [19:30] <TobiX> OBTW: http://spywarefiles.prevx.com/RRHHDJ131184/MCSETUP.EXE.html
#2087 [19:30] <TobiX> If that is the same mcsetup.exe, this does not look good...
#2088 [19:31] <P5yc0> i think it is not the same mcsetup xD
#2089 [19:31] <P5yc0> my girlfriend gave me this exe
#2090 [19:31] <AG_Scott> http://www.virustotal.com/
#2091 [19:31] <AG_Scott> upload it there for lols
#2092 [19:31] <VoxelHead> last night, yes
#2093 [19:31] <P5yc0> because she lives near me
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#2095 [19:33] <inucoru> hello
#2096 [19:33] <P5yc0> but thx for all the help that i get ^^
#2097 [19:34] <inucoru> can some one help me with setting up a server
#2098 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help do you need inucoru?
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#2100 [19:38] <wikkit> can somebody connect to my server real quick?
#2101 [19:38] <TobiX> I found the pirated copy on MediaFire, and lo and behold, it seems to be clean... Let's report it to MediaFire, shall we?
#2102 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Really wouldn't do any good, there's tons of minecraft copies around.
#2103 [19:39] <wikkit> 71.143.179.189
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#2105 [19:42] <TobiX> wikkit: Seems to work...
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#2107 [19:43] <Majik64> hi
#2108 [19:43] <TobiX> wikkit: Even if there are people there who don't want me to be there...
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#2110 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, his bandwidth can't take it
#2111 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> There's about a 5-10 second delay for chat
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#2114 [19:47] <miguelbot> hello
#2115 [19:47] <miguelbot> can someone help me with something
#2116 [19:47] <miguelbot> :)
#2117 [19:47] <VoxelHead> =]
#2118 [19:47] <xales> more specific?
#2119 [19:47] <miguelbot> i want to buy the game
#2120 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
#2121 [19:48] <miguelbot> i have a credit card but i have only dollars
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#2123 [19:48] <miguelbot> not euros
#2124 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> It'll autoconvert
#2125 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to worry about that
#2126 [19:48] <Mathuin> I bought it using dollars.
#2127 [19:48] <miguelbot> even if not paying with paypal?
#2128 [19:48] <VoxelHead> only with you miguelbot
#2129 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes miguelbot
#2130 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> paypal will do the conversion automatically
#2131 [19:49] <xales> as will your bank, if you do not use Paypal
#2132 [19:49] <miguelbot> alright thanks for your help guys
#2133 [19:49] <miguelbot> oh oh one last thing
#2134 [19:50] <miguelbot> in dollars it would be around 21 dollars the price right?
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#2136 [19:50] <xales> little less than $21, but around that, yes
#2137 [19:50] <miguelbot> ok thanks :D
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#2140 [19:54] <wiggy90000> hey guys, i was playing minecraft earlier before I left to take a break. When I got back, my world was gone from the game menu. Minecraft won't recognize the files. In my "saves" folder in .minecraft, the world and all its contents are still there, but the game won't read them. does anyone know what I can do to recover my game?
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#2142 [19:54] <wikkit> tobi you there?
#2143 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you have a power outage or some such?
#2144 [19:54] <wiggy90000> No, I just closed my laptop and left same as i always do
#2145 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> wiggy90000: you could try loading and resaving the world in a map editor; taht sometimes fixes that problem
#2146 [19:54] <wikkit> TobiX
#2147 [19:55] <wiggy90000> what is a good map editor that you suggest would work?
#2148 [19:55] <wikkit> oh and grey. sometimes my minecraft will randomly crash
#2149 [19:55] <wikkit> any ideas
#2150 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Got an error log or some such?
#2151 [19:55] <wikkit> nope
#2152 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Then I wouldn't know where to begin..
#2153 [19:55] <wikkit> just says the java runtime environment failed or something
#2154 [19:55] <wiggy90000> wikkit i had that same problem in windows 7 (if you're also using it) and i just had to run it in compatibility mode for windows xp SP3
#2155 [19:55] <wikkit> oh ok man
#2156 [19:56] <wiggy90000> worked for me
#2157 [19:56] <wikkit> lame but ok
#2158 [19:56] <aetherian> hey uh
#2159 [19:56] <aetherian> how does one make a jar easily executable in linux.
#2160 [19:56] <Mathuin> chmod +x foo.jar
#2161 [19:56] <aetherian> for now, I just have a .sh that does it, but that's annoyi- thanks
#2162 [19:56] <Mathuin> That will allow you to run it with ./foo.jar
#2163 [19:57] <Mathuin> Depending on the Linux distro. ALl of them should be able to do it.
#2164 [19:57] <aetherian> hmm
#2165 [19:57] <Mathuin> The operative word being 'should'.
#2166 [19:57] <wikkit> TobiX!!!! dude!!!
#2167 [19:57] <aetherian> I miss double click, in this case ;_;
#2168 [19:57] <Mathuin> I made a shortcut so I could doubleclick that.
#2169 [19:57] <wiggy90000> can anyone help me get my game back into minecraft?
#2170 [19:57] <aetherian> aaand it can't execute it...
#2171 [19:58] <aetherian> I'll stick with the .sh script
#2172 [19:58] <aetherian> only two lines :)
#2173 [19:58] <Mathuin> Prolly safest.
#2174 [19:58] <wikkit> wiggy90000 what?
#2175 [19:59] <TobiX> wikkit: Yes?
#2176 [20:00] <aetherian> is the login server still down?
#2177 [20:00] <wiggy90000> Minecraft no longer lists my minecraft world as an option to select it when i open the game to play a world, but the files are still in my saves folder in .minecraft. Does anybody know what I can do?
#2178 [20:00] <TobiX> wiggy90000: You could try replacing the level.dat with the level.dat_old or take a level.dat from another save game... But make a backup before...
#2179 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> wiggy90000 - Use a map editor, open it up and resave it
#2180 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> I can recommend MCedit, it's help everybody that's passed through here with that problem
#2181 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> helped*
#2182 [20:01] <Mathuin> Yes, MCEdit has helped me too.
#2183 [20:01] <wiggy90000> I just open it in MCEdit, then save it again?
#2184 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2185 [20:02] <wiggy90000> ok ill try that right now
#2186 [20:02] <wiggy90000> fingers crossed
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#2189 [20:05] <VoxelHead> bye Netu_
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#2193 [20:09] <wiggy90000> ok so i just opened up my world in McEdit, i can see all of the stuff ive built
#2194 [20:09] <wiggy90000> How do i exit and save? i dont know how to use the program
#2195 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> ctrl-s to save
#2196 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> alt-f4 to exit
#2197 [20:11] <pudgetta> when i try to play the newest version of minecraft, it will crash after about 80 seconds, and then an error message will apear on my desktop saying that java hotspot detected an error
#2198 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Can you copy and paste the entire error log at pastebin.com?
#2199 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL to it
#2200 [20:12] <pudgetta> ok
#2201 [20:13] <pudgetta> http://pastebin.com/FAg4SGNP
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#2204 [20:16] <pudgetta> did u get the link?
#2205 [20:19] <pudgetta> anyone there?
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#2208 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> zach12345 - Update your video drivers. Looks like the ATI drivers are causing the trouble.
#2209 [20:22] <zach12345> how do i do that
#2210 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what kind of video card you have?
#2211 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2212 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Follow the videos at the bottom
#2213 [20:24] <zach12345> thanks
#2214 [20:25] <VoxelHead> mmm zach12345
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#2216 [20:28] <quaddle> anybody wana hang out on my server
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#2218 [20:29] <quaddle> 71.143.179.189
#2219 [20:29] <Deadeye> Hi everyone. I have a quick question. I set up a minecraft server and I had a friend log in, but we can't find each other. Is there any way to easily locate people?
#2220 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> /tp person1 person2
#2221 [20:30] <quaddle> yea
#2222 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> teleports person1 to person2
#2223 [20:30] <Deadeye> How to I type that? (bring up the prompt?)
#2224 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Press "T" to bring up the chat window
#2225 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> (you need to be opped in your server to do this command)
#2226 [20:32] <Deadeye> Thanks, that did it. But now I lost my original place. Doh!
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#2229 [20:34] <Chr|s> howdy
#2230 [20:35] <aetherian> 'ello
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#2232 [20:36] <pheleas_frog> is there a way to set different spawns for OPs and regular people or do i require a mod?
#2233 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> That requires a mod
#2234 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Vanilla, there's only one spawn area.
#2235 [20:36] <pheleas_frog> kk ty
#2236 [20:36] <Chr|s> I appreciate all of ya that helped me get server started up and online a lot. Im looking for a trusted OP that has a server and knows about plugins...etc I am intersted in having a town, guest area. Places to go for players to go build..etc. Anyone feel like helping
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#2238 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Not many of us here are familiar with mods and plugins. That's #bukkit territory.
#2239 [20:37] <Chr|s> ahh bukkit ty, forgot to checkt he channel
#2240 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> I'm going to wait for Mojang to implement an official API before I delve back into modding
#2241 [20:38] <[z]> You may be in for a long wait
#2242 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> I'm willing to wait.
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#2245 [20:47] <ConFire> can someone help me with zan/lahwran's minimap and using hd texture packs at the same time?
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#2247 [20:53] <oldtopman> !paid Saratar
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#2249 [20:56] <Mathuin> Grats!
#2250 [20:56] <VoxelHead> hurrah
#2251 [20:56] <xales> ??> Count mods
#2252 [20:56] <VoxelHead> Count: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2253 [20:56] <VoxelHead> Count: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2254 [20:57] <xales> err
#2255 [20:57] <xales> wrong one, sorry :P
#2256 [20:57] <xales> ??> ConFire mods
#2257 [20:57] <VoxelHead> ConFire: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2258 [20:57] <VoxelHead> ConFire: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2259 [20:58] <|System|> Hey, Is it legal to make a mc news site?
#2260 [20:58] <xales> If you don't use the Minecraft logo or any content from it, excluding screenshots, and put a notice saying
#2261 [20:58] <xales> "Minecraft is copyright Mojang AB" or whatever
#2262 [20:59] <xales> (if you are really serious about putting time into it, I'd talk to a lawyer :P)
#2263 [20:59] <|System|> lol ?
#2264 [20:59] * xales was serious
#2264 [20:59] * |System| is scared
#2264 [20:59] * xales is xales
#2264 [21:00] * |System| just pissed himself of fear
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#2265 [21:01] <ufo> hey, can anyone help me out
#2266 [21:02] <|System|> probs
#2267 [21:02] <xales> with?
#2268 [21:02] <ufo> minecraft server runs fine on my laptop, and not on my desktop
#2269 [21:02] <ufo> in the exact same conditions, i have no idea what's wrong
#2270 [21:02] <|System|> Ports open ?
#2271 [21:02] <ufo> yup
#2272 [21:02] <|System|> :/...
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#2274 [21:02] * |System| leaves it to the professionals
#2274 [21:02] <ufo> if i try to hit it from outside when running on my desktop it times out
#2275 [21:02] * |System| calls xales
#2275 [21:03] <ufo> i run it on my laptop, hit it from outside, works fine
#2276 [21:03] <xales> you have to change the port forwarding settings
#2277 [21:03] <ufo> i do
#2278 [21:03] <xales> to forward to your desktop, not your laptop
#2279 [21:03] <|System|> Xp or Vista or Windows 7 ?
#2280 [21:03] <ufo> XP
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#2282 [21:04] <VoxelHead> bye Mathuin
#2283 [21:04] <oldtopman> Is there a command to make bedrock?
#2284 [21:04] <|System|> Start -> Run -> Type (cmd) [without brackets] --> New ip thing
#2285 [21:04] <oldtopman> I thought there was a /solid, but there isn't
#2286 [21:04] <|System|> ./give 7
#2287 [21:05] <|System|> or /item 7
#2288 [21:05] <|System|> The bedrock ID is 7 :P
#2289 [21:05] <ufo> |System|: you mean ipconfig /release and /renew?
#2290 [21:05] <oldtopman> Can I remove it?
#2291 [21:05] <aetherian> not anymore
#2292 [21:05] <VoxelHead> not anymore... nanymore
#2293 [21:05] <|System|> ufo ipconfig
#2294 [21:05] <|System|> Yeah
#2295 [21:05] <|System|> Its different from the Laptop
#2296 [21:05] <ufo> my laptop is .1.133 and my desktop is .1.100
#2297 [21:05] <oldtopman> Can I remove bedrick as op?
#2298 [21:06] <ufo> and i set it to .1.100 in the router
#2299 [21:06] <ufo> and it doesn't work
#2300 [21:06] <|System|> ???
#2301 [21:06] <xales> is there a firewall on your desktop?
#2302 [21:06] <|System|> Thats not what you are looking for
#2303 [21:06] <|System|> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
#2304 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> oldtopman - Not without map editing it out, or through a mod
#2305 [21:06] <|System|> Thats a example of one
#2306 [21:06] <oldtopman> Dang
#2307 [21:06] <ufo> yeah, 192.168.1.100
#2308 [21:06] <|System|> ahh okay
#2309 [21:06] <|System|> and it wont let it though ?
#2310 [21:06] <ufo> nope :|
#2311 [21:06] <xales> firewall?
#2312 [21:06] <|System|> <xales> is there a firewall on your desktop?
#2313 [21:07] <xales> server.properties misconfigured?
#2314 [21:07] <xales> (if you entered an IP address into server.properties, there is your issue)
#2315 [21:07] <ufo> i have avira antivir running on both computers and it works fine on one without the others
#2316 [21:07] <ufo> and not the other*
#2317 [21:07] <xales> that isn't a firewall
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#2319 [21:07] <ufo> then no
#2320 [21:07] <xales> and you did not put an IP in the server.properties file?
#2321 [21:07] <ufo> nope
#2322 [21:07] <ufo> server-ip is blank
#2323 [21:08] <xales> can you connect with 127.0.0.1 on the desktop?
#2324 [21:08] <oldtopman> xales: What does the IP on the props file do anyway?
#2325 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Make sure your router's status page's WAN/internet/public ip == whatismyip.org
#2326 [21:08] <ufo> xales: yes
#2327 [21:08] <|System|> is it still running on the laptop :P
#2328 [21:08] <xales> oldtopman: it's for cases where you don't want to bind to all IPs
#2329 [21:08] <ufo> GreyVulpine: yep, that's where i got the outside IP from
#2330 [21:08] <oldtopman> eh?
#2331 [21:08] <xales> but, if you are behind NAT, you cannot bind to a specific address
#2332 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> ufo - Does it match the ip on the router's status page?
#2333 [21:08] <xales> example, my server has two public IP addresses
#2334 [21:09] <xales> if I didn't want it to listen on both of them
#2335 [21:09] <ufo> okay, let me check that, hold on
#2336 [21:09] <|System|> lucky
#2337 [21:09] <xales> I would specify which one
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#2339 [21:09] <ufo> yeah it matches
#2340 [21:09] <oldtopman> ah.
#2341 [21:09] <xales> |System|: If you knew how much it costed, you would disagree :P
#2342 [21:09] <|System|> Why have 2 IP's ?
#2343 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> ufo - Then can you confirm the port forward on the router is correct? Or can you provide us with a screenshot that we may have a look?
#2344 [21:09] <xales> VHhosting and SSL
#2345 [21:10] <xales> vhosting*
#2346 [21:10] <xales> not vh
#2347 [21:10] <|System|> Are you a secret greifer with a tendence of getting IP banned?
#2348 [21:10] <|System|> ahh
#2349 [21:10] <xales> I can't play games on my server? :P
#2350 [21:10] <xales> By server I mean real server
#2351 [21:10] <xales> as in, a rackmount box in a datacenter
#2352 [21:11] <xales> anyway
#2353 [21:11] * xales is off to go do work :|
#2353 [21:12] <ufo> http://i.imgur.com/fCZMJ.jpg
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#2356 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> That looks right, as long as the inbound port is optional on that interface
#2357 [21:13] <ufo> i also have the server log output from when it closes the connection if that helps
#2358 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking it's a software firewall issue on your server then
#2359 [21:14] <ufo> i have zonealarm installed on it but it's completely shut off
#2360 [21:14] <ufo> other than that i don't know, windows firewall is off
#2361 [21:14] <ufo> that's all i have
#2362 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> Zonealarm has a tendancy to not turn completely off when you tell it to
#2363 [21:16] <ufo> duly noted, i'll try uninstalling it real quick
#2364 [21:18] <Chr|s> blah not so helpful people in #bukkit
#2365 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's usually the case..
#2366 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> if you want to do bukkit, it's just something you gotta figure out yourself, is what I've seen idling in that channel
#2367 [21:19] <Chr|s> yeah
#2368 [21:19] <Chr|s> dunno
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#2370 [21:20] <ufo> no dice :(
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#2372 [21:21] <Majik64> hi
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#2374 [21:22] <supersparta> s
#2375 [21:22] <supersparta> Hello
#2376 [21:22] <supersparta> Could someone please help me?
#2377 [21:22] <supersparta> I'm having trouble logging into the minecraft website
#2378 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> ufo - So then, people can connect, but get disconnected immediately?
#2379 [21:22] <Majik64> with what
#2380 [21:22] <supersparta> Well
#2381 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> supersparta - What's wrong?
#2382 [21:22] <supersparta> I've been able to login to the website since I made my account back in October
#2383 [21:22] <supersparta> and I logged in earlier today
#2384 [21:22] <supersparta> but now I can't log in anymore
#2385 [21:22] <supersparta> I don't know what happened
#2386 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Can you load the website?
#2387 [21:22] <supersparta> Yes
#2388 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to login?
#2389 [21:23] <supersparta> But when I enter my login information it says login failed
#2390 [21:23] <Majik64> um
#2391 [21:23] <supersparta> On both the client and the website
#2392 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Try a password recovery?
#2393 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#2394 [21:23] <Majik64> server down?
#2395 [21:23] <VoxelHead> yes, but only on sundays and selected bank holidays
#2396 [21:23] <supersparta> It's the same password as before
#2397 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Server's not down
#2398 [21:23] <supersparta> I actually had the client automatically put in my info
#2399 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> supersparta - Just try a password recovery.
#2400 [21:23] <supersparta> k
#2401 [21:24] <Majik64> maybe
#2402 [21:24] <ufo> it just loses connection, doesn't even load the level
#2403 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> There's actually a list of people that have gotten hacked with their minecraft accounts.
#2404 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Just recent.
#2405 [21:24] <Majik64> try
#2406 [21:25] <Majik64> do you have the downloadable version?
#2407 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> ufo - Hmm. And you've tried this with fresh server files, having it generate a new world?
#2408 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Did you try connecting locally?
#2409 [21:25] <ufo> 127.0.0.1 works
#2410 [21:25] <supersparta> oh wow
#2411 [21:25] <supersparta> it worked
#2412 [21:25] <supersparta> thank you so much
#2413 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#2414 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> ufo - Then, something's wonky between your server, and the outside...
#2415 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> If there's no firewall at all blocking the connection, perhaps something's on the modem/router?
#2416 [21:26] <ufo> well if it was the router it wouldn't work on my other computer, right?
#2417 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily.
#2418 [21:27] <ufo> :o the plot thickens
#2419 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding only applies to the WAN port, it'll direct internal traffic without any need for configuration
#2420 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> What type of router is this?
#2421 [21:28] <ufo> WRT 54GL
#2422 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> linksys linux based router?
#2423 [21:28] <ufo> yeah, i have tomato firmware running on it now
#2424 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Ah, that's why I didn't recognize the interface.
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#2426 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, I know zip about the tomato firmware, I use ddwrt on mine
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#2428 [21:29] <ufo> i can't remember if i tried running a server before or after i switched firmware but i do know that it never worked
#2429 [21:29] <Agumon286> Is character template uploading down?
#2430 [21:29] <ufo> i'm just at a loss
#2431 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Agumon286 - Nope
#2432 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> There's no confirmation page for uploading skins, but it works. Check in-game
#2433 [21:30] <ufo> do you think it could help to try from another computer inside my LAN?
#2434 [21:30] <Agumon286> Because I lost my template and need it back. And it keeps saying "Or not..."
#2435 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> ufo - Try hooking your computer up directly to the modem?
#2436 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Agumon286 - Oh, one sec
#2437 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> What username?
#2438 [21:30] <Agumon286> Any
#2439 [21:30] <ufo> i guess ill try that later, i can't take down the network while my roommates are using the internet
#2440 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Agumon286 - Try this link
#2441 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/Yourusernamehere.png
#2442 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> it's also caps sensitive
#2443 [21:31] <Agumon286> That did it, thanks
#2444 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> ufo - It's just a diagnostic step, if it is the router, you'll need to find out what kind of firewall setup it has
#2445 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Does another computer on the same LAN work?
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#2447 [21:33] <ufo> i just had my roommate try to login, didn't work either
#2448 [21:33] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#2449 [21:33] <ufo> using my local IP
#2450 [21:34] <ufo> server says lost connection: disconnect.timeout
#2451 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Just curious, what brand of NIC do you have?
#2452 [21:35] <ufo> it's an onboard on an asus p5k-e
#2453 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Do you know the name of the chipset?
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#2455 [21:35] <ufo> how can i find that out
#2456 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on?
#2457 [21:36] <ufo> XP
#2458 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Just hit up the control panel -> system -> hardware -> device manager -> network adapter
#2459 [21:36] <ufo> says marvell yukon 88E8056 PCI-E gigabit ethernet controller
#2460 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not one of the ones that are on my radar. Some NICs have a known problem with hosting minecraft.
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#2462 [21:38] <ufo> so i should buy a killer NIC M1
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#2464 [21:38] <VoxelHead> Bye thatbennyguy.
#2465 [21:38] <TenaciousDPW> hello
#2466 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Just to be sure, could you go ahead and try seeing if there's an updated driver for that NIC?
#2467 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Just right click on that entry, there should be an option to update driver
#2468 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> 'lo TenaciousDPW
#2469 [21:40] <ufo> it asked me if it was okay to look online and i said yes and it's telling me to insert the installation CD, lol
#2470 [21:41] <ufo> i guess i'll grab it
#2471 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Or you can try hitting up marvell's site
#2472 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> http://www.marvell.com/support.html
#2473 [21:42] <VoxelHead> I like them :o)
#2474 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Look for 88E8056
#2475 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#2476 [21:42] <VoxelHead> Fine.
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#2479 [21:43] <uf0> whoa!
#2480 [21:44] <uf0> could you connect to this for me and see if it's okay GreyVulpine?
#2481 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#2482 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> 71.60.50.57?
#2483 [21:44] <uf0> ._.
#2484 [21:44] <uf0> yes
#2485 [21:45] <SinZ> who here has xbox live and blackops
#2486 [21:45] <SinZ> and wants to play zombies
#2487 [21:45] <uf0> thanks a lot
#2488 [21:45] <SinZ> shiz wrong channel
#2489 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing uf0
#2490 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Glad you got it working
#2491 [21:46] <uf0> me too
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#2494 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#2495 [21:57] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.501 seconds.
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#2499 [22:16] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
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#2513 [22:48] <mib_qqrsbb> someone make a new versoin that all computers can run
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#2515 [22:48] <PwndByChips> !isdown
#2516 [22:49] <mib_qqrsbb> what is?
#2517 [22:49] <PwndByChips> hmmm all servers...
#2518 [22:49] <mib_qqrsbb> oh im here cuz im getting thwe bad video card driver thing
#2519 [22:49] <PwndByChips> hmm o.o
#2520 [22:49] <PwndByChips> not letting me ob
#2521 [22:50] <PwndByChips> on
#2522 [22:50] <mib_qqrsbb> is there like another version of this game that everyone can use?
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#2525 [22:52] <Sab0t> hi
#2526 [22:52] <aetherian> 'ello
#2527 [22:52] <Sab0t> im maken a aquarium but i need fish, is there anyway to spawn a squid in there?
#2528 [22:53] <Sab0t> since i think its the only aquatic life form in game atm
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#2530 [22:56] <DeathConsuming> Hey guys, I need some help fixing my server, I can't seem to connect to it D:
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#2532 [22:59] <DeathConsuming> Anyone able to help me ATM?
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#2535 [23:04] <aetherian> what is it
#2536 [23:04] <aetherian> what's the problem
#2537 [23:05] <DeathConsuming> I am trying to make my own server, and I followed the instructions given and I don't know how to connect via the program download and when I connect on the web everything is rather...Acidy/trippy
#2538 [23:05] <aetherian> so, you put the server software on a computer
#2539 [23:05] <DeathConsuming> Yes
#2540 [23:05] <aetherian> and from a different computer, can't connect?
#2541 [23:06] <DeathConsuming> I haven't tried a different computer, should I try it now?
#2542 [23:06] <aetherian> no
#2543 [23:06] <aetherian> you are connecting by 127.0.0.1, correct?
#2544 [23:06] <DeathConsuming> No? The readme.txt said my IP O.o
#2545 [23:06] <aetherian> (or "localhost")
#2546 [23:07] <aetherian> hang on
#2547 [23:07] <DeathConsuming> Okay.
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#2549 [23:08] <aetherian> okay
#2550 [23:08] <aetherian> so what exactly is the problem when you connect
#2551 [23:09] <DeathConsuming> When I connect via 'http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=70.123.173.80&port=25565' everything doesn't look right, and connecting via client produces a need to login error
#2552 [23:09] <DeathConsuming> And the server is suppose to be private =/
#2553 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Are you running a minecraft classic, or beta server?
#2554 [23:09] <DeathConsuming> Beta (downloaded from site)
#2555 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Then the first part wouldn't work
#2556 [23:09] <aetherian> oh wow
#2557 [23:10] <aetherian> you connect via the client
#2558 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Actually, you're starting off with the wrong files in the first
#2559 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> place
#2560 [23:10] <DeathConsuming> Blah
#2561 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Are you starting with start-server.bat or minecraft_server.exe?
#2562 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> The first one is classic, the latter is beta
#2563 [23:10] <DeathConsuming> the .bat
#2564 [23:10] * GreyVulpine nods
#2564 [23:10] <aetherian> !server
#2565 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Which is why you're getting the "need to login" error on the client
#2566 [23:11] <aetherian> get that
#2567 [23:11] <DeathConsuming> Ahh
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#2569 [23:11] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: why the heck is greybot telling me the server it's on >.>
#2570 [23:11] <VoxelHead> I like edam best of all.
#2571 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea
#2572 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> one sec
#2573 [23:11] <aetherian> I dun' care if it's connected to eldridge.esper.net
#2574 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2575 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Huh, interesting
#2576 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> I thought I disabled that
#2577 [23:11] <DeathConsuming> So using the Windows link, I start it and then what?
#2578 [23:11] <aetherian> then you close it
#2579 [23:11] <aetherian> once it's done loading
#2580 [23:12] <aetherian> and then you start it again
#2581 [23:12] <DeathConsuming> So...Run it, wait for load to finish, then load again?
#2582 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2583 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> The first time it loads, it generates more files
#2584 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> (also recommended to do this in a new folder)
#2585 [23:12] <aetherian> you can edit server.properties if you want
#2586 [23:12] <aetherian> but add nothing to the IP line
#2587 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2588 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> There we go.. don't know why greybot reverted to that previous script
#2589 [23:13] <aetherian> haha
#2590 [23:13] <VoxelHead> Gir... help me... there isn't much time!
#2591 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#2592 [23:13] <VoxelHead> nnk
#2593 [23:13] * aetherian helps VoxelHead
#2593 [23:13] <DeathConsuming> Yeah, I'm new to this, like I'm just starting to play Minecraft after seeing some stuff online xD
#2594 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> No worries, that's what we're here for
#2595 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> You're also not the first person to have this problem.'
#2596 [23:14] <DeathConsuming> So, after running the server again do I leave it running or can I close it?
#2597 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Leave it running
#2598 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Now, try connecting via 127.0.0.1 on the client
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#2600 [23:15] <mib_9f3l2p> 71.143.179.189
#2601 [23:15] <mib_9f3l2p> :25565
#2602 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#2603 [23:15] <aetherian> #smp
#2604 [23:15] <aetherian> not here
#2605 [23:15] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: I forgive you
#2606 [23:15] <aetherian> :)
#2607 [23:15] * GreyVulpine stabs aetherian
#2607 [23:15] <aetherian> aaaahhhhhhh
#2608 [23:16] <aetherian> that's not the way one should respond to forgiveness
#2609 [23:16] <DeathConsuming> It gave me a user not premium error.
#2610 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#2611 [23:16] <aetherian> I wish you could double click to launch .jars in linux :|
#2612 [23:16] <DeathConsuming> No =/
#2613 [23:16] <aetherian> a la face, a la palm
#2614 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft beta is a premium only thing. Need to pay for it
#2615 [23:17] <DeathConsuming> Blah
#2616 [23:17] <aetherian> 15 euros, ~20 dollars
#2617 [23:17] <aetherian> brb, gotta do the darn laundry >:|
#2618 [23:20] <aetherian> back
#2619 [23:20] <aetherian> ooh caek
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#2621 [23:28] <Ghetto> Hii
#2622 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2623 [23:28] <Ghetto> hi
#2624 [23:29] <Ghetto> can you help me
#2625 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2626 [23:29] <braincreation> aetherianae you can easily configure linux to launch jars instead of open them
#2627 [23:29] <Ghetto> well im trying to connect to ip servers in minecraft and its always telling me bad login
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#2629 [23:30] <braincreation> if on gnome, right click jar file click properties, go to open with choose java and then choose the advanced/custom option (depending on flavor of gnome) and add -jar to it
#2630 [23:31] <DeathConsuming> So my friend found a way to connect to a server via hamachi
#2631 [23:31] <guacamole> Hey i cant log in to any servers in minecrast it keeps saying bad login =(
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#2633 [23:31] <braincreation> java is most likely at /usr/bin/java
#2634 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Ghetto - try smp.shadow-craft.net
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#2636 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> If you can connect to that, then most likely you're connecting to bad servers
#2637 [23:32] <Ghetto> alright
#2638 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> DeathConsuming - We don't provide support for connecting to servers not authenticating to minecraft.. ie pirating.
#2639 [23:33] <DeathConsuming> I know. Trying to avoid that whole thing lol, I hate pirating, I plan on buying it sometime this weekend :D
#2640 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> It's really a matter of people finding the full download of minecraft off some torrent site, and connecting to some server that has "online-mode" set to false, so it doesn't authenticate the username to minecraft's DB
#2641 [23:34] <DeathConsuming> I plan on helping my dad with some stuff to make the 20 dollars.
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#2643 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> I don't advocate that method at all, seeing as how many people have come by this channel, asking for help undoing the authentication method after they decide to buy it in the end
#2644 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Quite frankly, I've gotten sick of it.
#2645 [23:35] <DeathConsuming> Meh, that should be one thing posted on the forums or something, that way you can be like "Go here noob (link)"
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#2647 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> The forums are a vast wasteland of old and very old walkthroughs and FAQs and how-tos..
#2648 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> I don't even want to touch the forums anymore, with the 10-foot pole
#2649 [23:37] <DeathConsuming> Lol.
#2650 [23:37] <braincreation> later that night, his heart grew 3 times
#2651 [23:37] * aetherian hands GreyVulpine a 15 foot pole
#2651 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> No such thing in the D&D-verse.
#2652 [23:39] <aetherian> no
#2653 [23:39] <aetherian> but
#2654 [23:39] <aetherian> I still hand you it
#2655 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Lies! It doesn't exist!
#2656 [23:40] * GreyVulpine thwaps aetherian with the 10-foot pole.
#2656 [23:40] <Sab0t> is there anyway to spawn mobs like the give command
#2657 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Not in vanilla.
#2658 [23:40] <Sab0t> i made an aquarium and want to put a squid in it
#2659 [23:40] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: wtf you talking about anyway
#2660 [23:40] <aetherian> I thought this was chainmail
#2661 [23:41] <Sab0t> i would have to have a mod?
#2662 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Dungeons and Dragons. A "10-foot pole" is standard adventuring gear.
#2663 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Yes Sab0t
#2664 [23:41] <DeathConsuming> Question, I am playing single player and everything is like all weirdly colored
#2665 [23:41] <Sab0t> kk any suggestions and bare in mind i guess im trying to keep it as vanilla as possible
#2666 [23:42] <DeathConsuming> Nevermind, fix it.
#2667 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Even if you did spawn a squid with a mod, once you move far enough away from that chunk, it unloads from memory, and you won't have that squid, or any animal back in that aquarium
#2668 [23:42] <Sab0t> im just maken a crazy kinda house with rollercosters to and from sections
#2669 [23:42] <Sab0t> o
#2670 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, really, it's not possible with the vanilla software
#2671 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> And is not permanent at all, modded or not
#2672 [23:43] <Sab0t> im supprized a mod cant make it permanent
#2673 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> It's just the way the software is programmed. Chunks that aren't visible to a player are automatically unloaded off of memory. Any items dropped, any mobs, are gone
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#2676 [23:50] <VoxelHead> Mmm Deathconsuming.
#2677 [23:53] <Chr|s> im about to call this quits on this crap, very confusing for me. I read the docs, but still aint helping..
#2678 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> What's wrong?
#2679 [23:54] <Chr|s> I got world edit working, permissions working. I am able to use world edit, just having problems making a cuboid
#2680 [23:55] <Chr|s> I am reading http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/WorldEdit/Quick_start
#2681 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Okay.
#2682 [23:56] <Chr|s> having problems making the walsl
#2683 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> ?
#2684 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Got a server up and running?
#2685 [23:57] <Chr|s> yeah I do
#2686 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Could I hop on, see what the problem is?
#2687 [23:57] <Chr|s> sure, i don't mind at all. 70.42.74.142