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#2 [00:03] <Kealper> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
#3 [00:04] <VoxelHead> Blimey.
#4 [00:04] <Kealper> sorry, had to
#5 [00:04] <Lish> is there a known issue when running a server on XP?
#6 [00:04] <Kealper> Lish: no, it's a windows driver issue on that specific NIC
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#8 [00:04] <Lish> No, I know that
#9 [00:05] <Lish> But the guy is now convinced that it's an XP issue
#10 [00:05] <Lish> And since 2003 is based on XP...
#11 [00:05] <Lish> Gah. I just want to punch him in the face. This is getting annoying.
#12 [00:05] <Kealper> it's not just XP, it would do that on any Windows OS :/
#13 [00:06] <Kealper> you tried a VM?
#14 [00:06] <Lish> still working on it
#15 [00:06] <Lish> he keeps crashign the server during the download
#16 [00:06] <Kealper> ...
#17 [00:06] <Kealper> :/
#18 [00:06] <Starr> I'm having a buffer overflow problem not caused by my memory or ATI video card, i have no idea how to diagnose or fix it, can any one help me?
#19 [00:07] <Kealper> Starr: hosting a server or playing the game?
#20 [00:07] <Starr> client crashes complaing of overflow directly after logging in
#21 [00:07] <Starr> not even seeing mainmenu to load a level
#22 [00:07] <Kealper> tried other servers?
#23 [00:08] <Starr> ...lol wat, the client crashes before i can even try to login to a server/load a level
#24 [00:08] <Kealper> O.o
#25 [00:08] <Kealper> oh....
#26 [00:08] <Kealper> that isn't a buffer overflow...that's just a black window of doom
#27 [00:08] <VoxelHead> I got potato bubblegum!
#28 [00:08] <Lish> hm. Would it be smarter to just download an ubuntu vm file or ubuntu itself?
#29 [00:08] <Kealper> vox, shut up
#30 [00:08] <Lish> hmm.
#31 [00:08] <VoxelHead> *stamps foot*
#32 [00:09] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#33 [00:09] <Kealper> Lish: doesn't matter, both would end up doing the same thing in the end
#34 [00:09] <Starr> so.... black window of doom? unfixable?
#35 [00:09] <Kealper> Starr: you've reinstalled java and reinstalled the game?
#36 [00:09] <Starr> yes and yes
#37 [00:10] <Kealper> Starr: has it ever worked before?
#38 [00:10] <Starr> also reinstalled DX but i doubt that means shit
#39 [00:10] <Starr> yes, it minecraft perfectly for me for around 6 months
#40 [00:10] <Kealper> yeah, minecraft is an opengl game :/
#41 [00:10] <Starr> this randomly popped up for me exactly 2 days ago
#42 [00:11] <Starr> the onylthing of note i can think of around that time that i did was uninstall the mcaffe advertisment stuff that comes with java
#43 [00:11] <Kealper> nothing changed as far as hardware or software (even antivirus updates)
#44 [00:11] <Lish> uh. desktop or server?
#45 [00:11] <Lish> or does it even matter?
#46 [00:11] <Kealper> Lish: desktop....unless you are a unix command ninja
#47 [00:11] <Lish> pfffffft
#48 [00:12] <Lish> just checking.
#49 [00:12] <Starr> desktop... vista
#50 [00:12] <Starr> I KNOW VISTA IS CRAP
#51 [00:12] <Kealper> Starr: Lish said that to me :P
#52 [00:12] <Starr> dont bother, i dont have $200 for 7
#53 [00:12] <Kealper> vista is not bad....it's just not...good..lol
#54 [00:12] <Starr> my thoughts exactly
#55 [00:12] <Kealper> hmm...
#56 [00:13] <Starr> no hardware changes...
#57 [00:13] <Starr> no CPU changes, no ram installed, no new card
#58 [00:13] <Starr> minecraft ran fine on this card since i bought it.
#59 [00:13] <Kealper> are you playing it in the browser or downloaded client?
#60 [00:14] <Starr> dowloaded, when the problem started i removed all my mods, problem persists
#61 [00:14] <Kealper> try the browser version
#62 [00:14] <Starr> did
#63 [00:14] <Starr> same problem, same error
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#65 [00:14] <Kealper> well, i actually just wanted you to try it because it's easier to get debug info from it
#66 [00:14] <Starr> using Chrome
#67 [00:15] <Kealper> because a "BWOD" can be caused by loads of things....some are fixable, some are...not easily fixable
#68 [00:15] <Lish> AGH
#69 [00:15] <Lish> I want to punch this guy
#70 [00:16] <Lish> I restart because of vmware
#71 [00:16] <Lish> and he's all like
#72 [00:16] <LordNLptp> ...wow. channel rules here are STRICT. but i understand why people don't want modding related questions, this channel is just for people who get blank screen o death when running mc, right?
#73 [00:16] <Kealper> LordNLptp: it's not that we don't want to give modding help
#74 [00:16] <Lish> "Did you restart? I'm talking to the data center and now they have to start over."
#75 [00:16] <Lish> Hnnnggg
#76 [00:16] <VoxelHead> Hnnnnnnnnn blinding.
#77 [00:16] <Starr> everything is fixable in my book... anyway i crashed the browser version, want a copy paste of error report or something?
#78 [00:16] <Kealper> LordNLptp: it's that it is very hard to keep track of all mods and the issue they cause
#79 [00:16] <VoxelHead> only with spud
#80 [00:16] <LordNLptp> my question was just about replacing the music, no modloader/crap like that (which i don't use)
#81 [00:17] <Kealper> LordNLptp: and this is for general game help
#82 [00:17] <Lish> modloader as godloader?
#83 [00:17] <LordNLptp> oh. like, "how do i prevent the green bush monsters from blowing me to bits at night?"
#84 [00:17] <Kealper> LordNLptp: %appdata%\.minecraft\resources check in there
#85 [00:17] <Kealper> LordNLptp: all sorts
#86 [00:18] <LordNLptp> Kealper: did that. mc overwrites any changes done to that directory on startup, and if you change files after startup it ignores them
#87 [00:18] <Kealper> Starr: yes, actually lol
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#89 [00:18] <Kealper> LordNLptp: unfortunately, it does that :/
#90 [00:18] <Starr> hsall i paste it here or in a PM?
#91 [00:18] <LordNLptp> if you read-only the files, mc seems to do nothing but when you run from commandline using java -cp ... etc, you get a bunch of warnings that it can't overwrite the files and it STILL doesn't use them
#92 [00:18] <Kealper> Starr: http://pastebin.com please
#93 [00:19] <Kealper> LordNLptp: yeah, it likes to not take to audio mods :/
#94 [00:19] <Kealper> unless actually modding the client
#95 [00:19] <LordNLptp> :(
#96 [00:19] <Starr> http://pastebin.com/T473JV9X
#97 [00:19] <LordNLptp> I guess i'll have to look into that then
#98 [00:19] <Kealper> you could ask #risucraft about it, they might know of a quickie mod that lets you do that
#99 [00:19] <LordNLptp> i was hoping it wasn't necessary
#100 [00:19] <LordNLptp> ok
#101 [00:20] <Kealper> what the heck
#102 [00:20] <Starr> gasp?
#103 [00:20] <Kealper> Starr: i've never seen that error before....when do you get it exactly?
#104 [00:21] <Starr> nb4 super epic hack required to fix.
#105 [00:21] <Starr> just now.
#106 [00:21] <Kealper> no, i mean in the process of starting minecraft, when does that happen?
#107 [00:21] <Starr> i launch the client, i press login, it switches screens to verify the version n stuff
#108 [00:21] <Starr> it suceeded that, then crashes.
#109 [00:22] <Kealper> does it show the Mojang logo?
#110 [00:22] <Starr> i shall check!
#111 [00:22] <Starr> nope.
#112 [00:22] <Starr> crashes either at the logo or just before.
#113 [00:23] <Kealper> Starr: this is just a shot in the dark...but try reinstalling your NIC drivers
#114 [00:23] <Starr> NIC? <-- semi noob, plays games and mods alot but doesnt know crap for real.
#115 [00:23] <Kealper> Network Interface Card
#116 [00:24] <Starr> really? that doesnt seem realevant to me, but i guess that's a a good a guess as any.
#117 [00:24] <Kealper> it seems to be crashing when it gets the response from the login server
#118 [00:24] <Starr> i'll be back once ive tried that
#119 [00:25] <Kealper> it's only expecting a certain amount of data, but is getting far more than it has room for
#120 [00:25] <Kealper> for some reason
#121 [00:25] <Kealper> hence the shot in the dark
#122 [00:26] * Kealper grumbles at minecraft's netcode
#122 [00:32] <Lish> hefiauyshf
#123 [00:32] <Lish> woah
#124 [00:32] <Lish> whoops
#125 [00:32] <VoxelHead> aw... it's broken
#126 [00:33] * xales sets fire to VoxelHead
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#127 [00:33] <Starr> okay im back
#128 [00:33] <Starr> ...it didnt work
#129 [00:35] <Starr> kealper?
#130 [00:35] <Kealper> hmmm...
#131 [00:35] <Kealper> ok xales, your turn
#132 [00:35] <xales> ?
#133 [00:36] <Kealper> Starr gets this http://pastebin.com/T473JV9X right after login, but before the Mojang splash shows
#134 [00:36] <xales> Known error
#135 [00:36] <Kealper> orly?
#136 [00:36] <xales> Delete everything in .minecraft but saves
#137 [00:36] <Kealper> fixable?
#138 [00:36] <Starr> ok
#139 [00:37] <Kealper> Starr: when you said you reinstalled minecraft, you did actually reinstall it, right?
#140 [00:37] <Kealper> (not just delete the exe)
#141 [00:37] <Starr> i deleted bin folder
#142 [00:37] <Starr> does that count?
#143 [00:37] <Kealper> that'd normally do it, but follow xales, he seems to know more about this error than i do
#144 [00:37] <Starr> yessir
#145 [00:38] <Starr> yaaaay
#146 [00:38] <Starr> thanks kealper, thank very much xales
#147 [00:38] <Starr> fix'd
#148 [00:39] <Kealper> now i'm very curious as to what file causes that
#149 [00:39] <xales> Kealper, anything corrupt
#150 [00:39] <Starr> same
#151 [00:39] <xales> usually texturepack-related IIRC
#152 [00:39] <Kealper> O.o
#153 [00:39] <Starr> huh
#154 [00:39] <Starr> that... actually makes sense
#155 [00:39] <Starr> cuz it crashed when i cliked on an old texture pack
#156 [00:39] <Kealper> brb, off to corrupt a texturepack
#157 [00:39] <Kealper> ._.
#158 [00:39] <Starr> then it started doing that, i fuigred they were unrealted
#159 [00:40] <Starr> ohh i know what happaned lol...
#160 [00:40] <Starr> wow i feel dumb now
#161 [00:40] <Kealper> *sigh*
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#163 [00:40] <Starr> i tried to mount a X256 pack without apatch
#164 [00:40] <Starr> when it crashed i figured pack didnt mount
#165 [00:40] <Kealper> now i feel dumb for not making sure you had a totally clean copy of mc --
#166 [00:41] <Starr> TBH it was a misclick...
#167 [00:41] <Kealper> -.-*
#168 [00:41] <Starr> anyway, thanks for the help guys
#169 [00:41] * Kealper takes note of that error
#169 [00:42] <Kealper> although now that i think about it, a buffer overflow could also be related to it getting more data than alloted for images, too
#170 [00:43] <Kealper> meh...hilight if i'm needed for something...irc is minimized
#171 [00:45] <xales> Kealper
#172 [00:45] <xales> buffer overflow = data read wrong
#173 [00:46] <Kealper> well a buffer overflow is just that, buffer was too small for the data that it was trying to place in to it
#174 [00:46] <Kealper> and if he had a 256 texture pack, that'd be far larger than the default 16px ones unmodded mc is made for
#175 [00:47] <xales> no, that's different
#176 [00:47] <xales> ...bleh, whatever
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#178 [00:47] <Kealper> bah, i don't even understand the error...i'll stfu now
#179 [00:47] * Kealper goes back to module making
#179 [00:47] <xales> :P
#180 [00:48] <Kealper> actually
#181 [00:48] <DopeGhoti> mm?
#182 [00:48] <Kealper> i wanna see if i can bork mc with just a bogus texture pack, or if it takes a big texture pack to show that error
#183 [00:49] <xales> just edit a random character in an image in the pack
#184 [00:49] <xales> or the .zip itself
#185 [00:50] <xales> actually, edit the header
#186 [00:50] <xales> paste some lipsum in the head of the file
#187 [00:50] <xales> >:D
#188 [00:50] <Kealper> i was just going to use a data encryption thing i made to scramble it
#189 [00:50] <xales> lol
#190 [00:50] <Kealper> retains the same filesize but totally beats the crap out of the bytes
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#192 [00:52] <dragonrider> question
#193 [00:52] <DopeGhoti> answer
#194 [00:52] <dragonrider> lol
#195 [00:52] <dragonrider> how come i cant get skins
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#197 [00:53] <Kealper> does not open the scrabled one....brb downloading a megahuge texture pack
#198 [00:53] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/skins
#199 [00:53] <VoxelHead> mc.net/skins: Skin uploading will appear not to do anything at minecraft.net. However, if you have uploaded a new skin file, it *will* work in-game. Give it a try! (:
#200 [00:53] <Kealper> it just treats it as no texturepack was applied
#201 [00:53] <dragonrider> but i go to the skindex
#202 [00:54] <dragonrider> and click the upload buttons and it gives me this Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/magnetslayer13.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:54:29 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request
#203 [00:55] <VoxelHead> Bye Wahrheit.
#204 [00:55] <dragonrider> so what do i do, i wan ta skin real bad
#205 [00:55] <Kealper> 11mb for a texturepack...this is pretty intense
#206 [00:56] <xales> dragonrider: download it, and reupload it yourself
#207 [00:56] <dragonrider> what do i download
#208 [00:57] <dragonrider> hmmmmmmm
#209 [00:57] <DopeGhoti> dragonrider: the skin is a small .png file
#210 [00:57] <DopeGhoti> download that file, log into minecraft.net, go to the Profile page, and use the uploader there
#211 [00:58] <Kealper> nailed it
#212 [00:58] <Kealper> xales: it is caused from what i said...it's because the images in the 256px texturepack are too large for the buffer it's got set aside :/
#213 [00:59] <xales> :P
#214 [00:59] <Kealper> so...time to go and fix that issue
#215 [00:59] <dragonrider> what is the uploader on minecraft called
#216 [00:59] <xales> click the "Profile" button
#217 [00:59] <xales> it's the first thing there
#218 [01:00] <dragonrider> the thing that says download reference skin
#219 [01:01] <DopeGhoti> there's also a form to upload one too
#220 [01:01] <DopeGhoti> (you did log in, right?)
#221 [01:01] <dragonrider> yes
#222 [01:01] <dragonrider> positive
#223 [01:01] <xales> There is a box with a "browse" button
#224 [01:02] <dragonrider> in profile
#225 [01:02] <dragonrider> ok it brought up my image of skin on picture it now what
#226 [01:03] <dragonrider> :D
#227 [01:03] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#228 [01:03] <DopeGhoti> once you've selected it in the file browser, click 'upload'
#229 [01:03] <dragonrider> past that
#230 [01:03] <DopeGhoti> then enjoy your skin!
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#233 [01:04] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: learn your lesson? lol
#234 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#235 [01:05] <dragonrider> it worked , i couls just hug you sooooo much
#236 [01:05] * GreyVulpine coughs
#236 [01:05] <dragonrider> i love it, it
#237 [01:05] <dragonrider> btw it was a power ranger
#238 [01:05] <Kealper> windows will usually lock up even if you unplug a SATA drive unless you unmount it first :/
#239 [01:05] <dragonrider> gb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#240 [01:06] <DopeGhoti> that was interesting.
#241 [01:06] <Kealper> i remember the first time i got a computer with SATA on it...got my first disc drive that supported it....first thing i tried was just unplugging the cable because i had heard how hotswappable it is...
#242 [01:06] <Kealper> i was disappoint
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#244 [01:07] <xales> I hotswapped an IDE drive in an Xbox
#245 [01:07] <xales> |:
#246 [01:07] <xales> IT WAS FUN
#247 [01:07] <xales> not really
#248 [01:07] <Kealper> yeah, but that doesn't run windoze
#249 [01:07] <xales> yes it does
#250 [01:07] * xales </sarcasm>
#250 [01:07] <xales> (get it? Xbox. Microsoft. Windows D:
#251 [01:08] <Kealper> epic....winamp random playlist....Eye of the Tiger just came one
#252 [01:08] <Kealper> on*
#253 [01:09] <DopeGhoti> actually
#254 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> xales, as I mentioned before, I did successfully hot-swap an IDE drive, both into Linux and Windows, when I was rooting (or whatver) my xbox
#255 [01:10] <xales> I didn't see you mention it, but I did that too! :o
#256 [01:10] <DopeGhoti> <3 XBMC
#257 [01:11] <Kealper> hmm...maybe i was just unlucky and it was accessing the drive right when i tried it on my computer
#258 [01:11] <DopeGhoti> yeah, that could be problematic
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#260 [01:14] <MarkGrayson> Anyone else getting a bug where the Java SE binary stops working? Screen just randomly goes black.
#261 [01:14] <xales> Try turning down the view distance - also, do you have any mods installed?
#262 [01:15] <MarkGrayson> No to mods, I'll try the view distance. It only started today and I haven't changed any settings.
#263 [01:15] <MarkGrayson> Happens after ~15 minutes of playing.
#264 [01:16] <MarkGrayson> The first time I lost all my stuff :( I hit some weird glitch while mining and died, the game crashed and remembered I died / lsot all my stuff but all my mining work was erased.
#265 [01:16] <MarkGrayson> Pretty weird
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#267 [01:18] <MarkGrayson> Wow now it's even weirder... I reloaded my game after the second time it crashed, and I was back in that same glitch / dying spot that I was in the FIRST time it crashed.
#268 [01:18] <MarkGrayson> wtf
#269 [01:22] <Kealper> xales: i need your irc expertise
#270 [01:23] <Kealper> are there any special channel modes that ircservices sets for channel founders? or are they just an @ too?
#271 [01:23] <xales> Just @
#272 [01:23] <Kealper> so i only need to parse out @ and + for channel userlists?
#273 [01:23] <xales> yep
#274 [01:23] <xales> protip: /version
#275 [01:23] <Kealper> danke
#276 [01:24] <Jerub> Kealper: the modes are in the channel access information. /msg chanserv info #channel
#277 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> It really depends on the IRCd though
#278 [01:24] <Kealper> yeah, that's what i was wondering
#279 [01:24] * GreyVulpine shudders at a certain IRCd with 4-5 modes.
#279 [01:24] <xales> Kealper: Services has minimal interaction with the ircd here
#280 [01:24] <xales> No special services modes
#281 [01:24] <Kealper> because i've seen some services set shit like ~ or & for user channel mode
#282 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> That's Unreal.
#283 [01:25] <xales> In fact, one could have full access to services but not have an O:Line. Some services use server usermodes for permissions
#284 [01:25] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: nailed that one lol
#285 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> ~ is founder, & is super AOP, or protected op
#286 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> @ is op, % is half, + is voice..
#287 [01:25] <Kealper> that's what i was referring to, was not sure if this one did that
#288 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> This one, fortunately, doesn't do that
#289 [01:26] <Kealper> well, that saved me a whole two lines
#290 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> This one has half-ops, but is disabled in their config
#291 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Many normal IRCds, only have @/%/+/normal
#292 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: some IRCds have IRCops at &
#293 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, haven't seen that one.
#294 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> one example is bitlbee and ratbox
#295 [01:27] <Kealper> yeah, i knew about half-ops but i wasn't going to add that since this network doesn't have them
#296 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> okay, that's two examples
#297 [01:27] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: yeah, i've seen & on efnet i think
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#299 [01:28] <xales> EFNet?
#300 [01:28] <xales> Nope.avi!
#301 [01:28] <LG_Legacy> ?
#302 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> EFNet doesn't use &
#303 [01:29] <Kealper> oh, one of the ones i was on used ratbox, and i seen that & for opers
#304 [01:29] <xales> LG_Legacy: 01:28:18 -!- LG_Legacy [Slizard@66-227-202-118.dhcp.bycy.mi.chart
#305 [01:29] <xales> right before you joined
#306 [01:29] <xales> hah
#307 [01:29] <Kealper> freenode maybe?
#308 [01:29] <xales> I copied the wrong thing |:
#309 [01:29] <Kealper> lol
#310 [01:29] <xales> 01:27:40 <@Kealper> DopeGhoti: yeah, i've seen & on efnet i think
#311 [01:29] <xales> there
#312 [01:29] <LG_Legacy> Right
#313 [01:29] <xales> Freenode would use it, not sure if they do
#314 [01:30] <xales> EFNet would never do something like that
#315 [01:30] <Kealper> hell it might have even been unreal
#316 [01:30] <Kealper> unrealircd, not some network
#317 [01:30] <xales> Vanity channel prefix for opers? Sane IRC network? Mutually exclusive!
#318 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> Would be Unreal then
#319 [01:30] <DopeGhoti> hah
#320 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Alright, so, I've got a problem. IDE DVD burner's giving out bad burns. Can't read burns on any other computer, except for the one it was burned on
#321 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Switched it out for a known good burner, does the same thing
#322 [01:33] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#323 [01:33] <xales> Decrease burn speed to 1x
#324 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Switched to a different program, does the same thing
#325 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Also decreased burn speed
#326 [01:33] <DopeGhoti> tried other media?
#327 [01:33] <DopeGhoti> I had a similar problem and later found it was a bad spindle of discs
#328 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Haven't tried other media.
#329 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> But I'm positive the media's not the problem
#330 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> I've used the media on known good burners, and had good burns
#331 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking, possibly the IDE cable's gone bad... or the OS itself.
#332 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> This computer's running XP since early 2000s, haven't done a wipe since it's first install.
#333 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Neither of which really explain the problem. Wouldn't a bad IDE cable just corrupt the burn altogether?
#334 [01:35] <DopeGhoti> boot up a LiveUSBStick; burn from there
#335 [01:35] <DopeGhoti> that'd test the hardware
#336 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#337 [01:36] * xales plugs DopeGhoti in; boots
#337 [01:36] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#338 [01:36] <Kealper> i was unaware DopeGhoti was bootable
#339 [01:36] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: also, and this may sound odd, but it could be a bad PSU
#340 [01:36] <xales> GreyVulpine: You said the computer that burns it can read it fine?
#341 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Yes xales
#342 [01:36] <DopeGhoti> I've had a dodgy power supply causeing the _weirdest_ problems
#343 [01:36] <xales> Kealper: I used cfdisk and toggled the bootable flag
#344 [01:37] <xales> GreyVulpine: Can it read media burned on other computers?
#345 [01:37] <Kealper> those discs are something sane like CD-R or CD+R right?
#346 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> That's something to test, one sec
#347 [01:37] <DopeGhoti> xales: I thought a bad drive too, but this is another drive
#348 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> it's just DVD-R
#349 [01:37] <xales> DopeGhoti: Misaligned read head
#350 [01:37] <xales> :)
#351 [01:37] <xales> read/write, rather
#352 [01:37] <Kealper> that....could be...
#353 [01:37] <xales> and I suppose it's a laser
#354 [01:37] <xales> :P
#355 [01:38] <DopeGhoti> xales: again, this is a second drive
#356 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> But I plugged in a known good burner as well
#357 [01:38] <xales> Oh, derp
#358 [01:38] <xales> missed that part
#359 [01:38] <Kealper> hmm....
#360 [01:38] * Kealper reads up
#360 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, reads other burns as well
#361 [01:38] <Kealper> woh
#362 [01:38] <Kealper> that's weird
#363 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> It is..
#364 [01:38] <Lish> so the guy has been talking to the data center
#365 [01:39] <Lish> now it's timing out but no crash
#366 [01:39] <DopeGhoti> Could be IDE controller or IDE cable, but it could also be PSU
#367 [01:39] <Lish> and he's still not letting me use a vm.
#368 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, good suggestions Dope, I'll check those out.
#369 [01:39] <Kealper> tried putting your burner on a different power plug?
#370 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Nope, that's something to test
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#372 [01:40] <Kealper> might not be getting enough power to spin up right and that could be borking it :/
#373 [01:40] <xales> http://fuckyeahnouns.com/grandma
#374 [01:40] <Jerub> bad power supplies are responsible for a huge proportion of hardware issues. when given an option i'll always get a quality one
#375 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Possibly.
#376 [01:40] <CelesteA> lmao
#377 [01:40] <DopeGhoti> if you were local, I'd bring you my PSU tester (:
#378 [01:40] <CelesteA> i was veiwing that site earlier today
#379 [01:40] <DopeGhoti> Jerub: amen
#380 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Heh. I've got a multimeter, and I'm not afraid to use it
#381 [01:40] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: that'd work
#382 [01:42] <Jerub> GreyVulpine: you might only see voltage drops under load
#383 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> I know.
#384 [01:42] <Kealper> screwdrivers make some heavy load!
#385 [01:42] <Kealper> especially on a car battery
#386 [01:43] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#386 [01:43] <Kealper> speaking of which....don't do that
#387 [01:43] <Kealper> ruins the screwdriver
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#389 [01:45] * Cyberstorm needs a new screwdiver.
#389 [01:47] <Kealper> lol have you tried that before?
#390 [01:49] <Kealper> another neat thing is to attach some speaker wire to the leads of a car battery (or any high-amp battery) and cut the wire in half, and then fray the ends of the parts you just cut...then brush the two together
#391 [01:49] <Kealper> it vaporizes the frayed ends an makes a nice little light show for a few sec
#392 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, power looks alright on idle.. 12.2V and 5.1V
#393 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Just need to fine a replacement IDE cable..
#394 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> find*
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#396 [02:03] <Kealper> ugh...that was harder than i thought it would be for some reason
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#399 [02:04] <GreyV> Well then
#400 [02:04] <GreyV> Good news, and bad news. Good news is I don't have to worry about the dvd burner anymore
#401 [02:04] <Kealper> making a function that can set as many users to a specific mode as i say...if there is a lot it throttles the send, and does it 5 at a time
#402 [02:04] <Kealper> GreyV: uhoh
#403 [02:04] <Kealper> what happened?
#404 [02:04] <GreyV> bad news, is I sorta let out the magic smoke from the computer
#405 [02:04] <Kealper> bad news: you ....
#406 [02:05] <Kealper> was just typing that :/
#407 [02:05] <Kealper> how'd ya do?
#408 [02:05] <GreyV> Chipset fried itself as I bumped into something near it
#409 [02:05] <GreyV> Made a nice spark and smokeshow
#410 [02:05] <Kealper> ouch.....chipset on what?
#411 [02:05] <GreyV> mobo
#412 [02:05] <Kealper> ._.
#413 [02:06] <Kealper> i hope that wasn't your good computer
#414 [02:06] * Cyberstorm blinks, "What blew up, GreyV?"
#414 [02:06] <Cyberstorm> You let out the magic smoke!?
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#416 [02:07] <Cyberstorm> You let out the magic smoke!?
#417 [02:07] * Cyberstorm waves
#417 [02:07] <Kealper> aww....that's GreyBot's machine, isn't it :/
#418 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's Greybot's machine
#419 [02:07] <Kealper> :<
#420 [02:07] <Cyberstorm> Awe, wait, someone made that joke already
#421 [02:07] <DopeGhoti> :(
#422 [02:07] * VoxelHead gets out a board game for dopeghoti
#422 [02:07] * Cyberstorm didn't read that
#422 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Oof, I don't think they make socket A motherboards anymore, do they?
#423 [02:08] <Kealper> wait, to make sure i got this right, you are on greybot's machine, and you killed your main comp?
#424 [02:08] <Kealper> or you killed greybot?
#425 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> No, this is a third computer I'm on
#426 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> I killed greybot
#427 [02:08] <Kealper> NOES
#428 [02:08] <Cyberstorm> Hard to find
#429 [02:08] * Cyberstorm pouts
#429 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> God this room smells now
#430 [02:08] <Kealper> what cpu?
#431 [02:08] <Cyberstorm> Howmany did the fox have?
#432 [02:08] <Kealper> wait
#433 [02:08] <Kealper> mobo
#434 [02:08] <Kealper> what size?
#435 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Whatever sockets the AMD 3000+ athlon series
#436 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Socket A?
#437 [02:09] <VoxelHead> i like them =D
#438 [02:09] * GreyVulpine has 3, two main and a laptop
#438 [02:09] <Kealper> is that a 1.8ghz single core?
#439 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Something like that, yeah
#440 [02:09] <Kealper> wanna know what's kinda funny about that?
#441 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> ...
#442 [02:09] <Kealper> remember my old server?
#443 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> mmhmm
#444 [02:09] <Kealper> take a guess at what it is
#445 [02:09] <Cyberstorm> There's always some place that has old rare mobos
#446 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> No.. but I'm sure you'll tell me.
#447 [02:10] <Kealper> ofc
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#450 [02:11] <Chr|s> hiya
#451 [02:11] <Kealper> socket A full ATX mobo, up to pc-3200 ram, has 2 ram slots, has 2 sata 150 ports, a 1.8ghz amd sempron
#452 [02:11] <Shadow386> nice
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#454 [02:11] <Kealper> agp 8x video card slot
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#456 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Bleh.
#457 [02:11] * Cyberstorm is using a 1.2ghz Athalon CPU onhis webserver
#457 [02:11] <Shadow386> Guess what?
#458 [02:11] <Shadow386> Its mine now
#459 [02:11] <Shadow386> :O
#460 [02:11] <VoxelHead> O_O.
#461 [02:12] <Shadow386> >:D
#462 [02:12] <dark2> I can't get minecraft to run on ubuntu 10.10. It just closes itself. :(
#463 [02:12] <Kealper> so...if you wanted that thing's mobo...it's yours for the cost of shipping
#464 [02:12] * Cyberstorm awes
#464 [02:12] <Chr|s> quick question not on topic, but those that have ubuntu. if I were to creat a launcher to open a program how would I add this command "padsp teamspeak"?
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#466 [02:13] <Shadow386> Kealper you'd give that thing to me only for the cost of shipping?
#467 [02:13] <Shadow386> sounds like a trap
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#469 [02:13] <Kealper> Shadow386: just sitting here collecting dust now, my new server stomps it into the ground
#470 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Looks like.. it isn't a socket A
#471 [02:13] <Shadow386> Well that sucks I have no cash lol
#472 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> It's a socket 939
#473 [02:14] <Kealper> ouch
#474 [02:14] <Kealper> yeah, can't help ya on that one :/
#475 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, newegg's out on that
#476 [02:14] <Shadow386> My main server is a quad, 8 gigs ram, and on a 100mbps port
#477 [02:14] <Kealper> bad thing....socket 939 went out of style HARD
#478 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> I see that now
#479 [02:14] <Shadow386> My desktop I use is 4 gigs, duo, and getting a vid card now
#480 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Man, burning silicon reeeks
#481 [02:14] <Kealper> so you'd be lucky to even find anything that isn't resale on ebay
#482 [02:14] * GreyVulpine coughs
#482 [02:14] <Shadow386> Newegg never gave me my video card yet, it should be here tomorrow
#483 [02:15] <Kealper> ever smelled cooked woofer? that's an interesting smell
#484 [02:15] <VoxelHead> That's my favourite show.
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#486 [02:15] <Kealper> y u dc so much
#487 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> I hate this client
#488 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> It's the only one I have on here.
#489 [02:16] <Kealper> anywho...cooked woofer...imagine fried electronics smell...but with a more... "sweet" scent...it's really weird
#490 [02:16] <VoxelHead> Aw... i wanted to stain.
#491 [02:16] <Kealper> i swear vox gets dumber the longer it stays in here lol
#492 [02:17] <Kealper> not sure if that refects good or bad upon us
#493 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> ewww
#494 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Probably the glue or something that the woofer's attached to them
#495 [02:18] <VoxelHead> ehehehehehehe chicken!! I'm gonna eat you!
#496 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Man, VoxelHead really likes those Zim quotes, doesn't he
#497 [02:19] <VoxelHead> delicious DELICIOUS... I AM NORMAL%percent^£$$@£$
#498 [02:19] <Kealper> quite....lol
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#501 [02:20] <Kealper> and yeah, i think it's some of the glue they use to hold the wire on the voice coil...but man it smells toxic in a delicious way
#502 [02:20] <Kealper> and the smell just hangs around for like 30 min
#503 [02:21] <Chr|s> woot fixed my team speak, im happy
#504 [02:21] * Chr|s dances
#504 [02:22] <Kealper> this is some pretty heavy music
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#506 [02:22] <Deathconsuming> Hey
#507 [02:23] <Kealper> ello
#508 [02:23] <Chr|s> what music
#509 [02:23] <Deathconsuming> Seem to have run into a problem >_<
#510 [02:23] <Kealper> Black Label Society right now, but it's a random list of just music like it
#511 [02:23] <Kealper> Deathconsuming: care to elaborate?
#512 [02:25] <Deathconsuming> I transfered my server files over to a different computer and I keep getting http://pastebin.com/my0eycAa
#513 [02:26] <Kealper> go in to server.properties and take out the ip inside server-ip
#514 [02:26] <Kealper> just make it say server-ip=
#515 [02:26] <Deathconsuming> I have the server running off hamachi though
#516 [02:27] <Kealper> doesn't matter, having that blank will make it bind all addresses on the computer, instead of a specific one
#517 [02:27] <Deathconsuming> Lol, the firewall on the server pc had java blocked
#518 [02:28] <Kealper> that usually won't make it fail to bind, just make it not accept connections :/
#519 [02:28] <Chr|s> hey guys
#520 [02:28] <Kealper> rawr?
#521 [02:28] <Chr|s> how do I create a launcher to open minecraft.jar to start the game? I am running ubuntu linux
#522 [02:29] <Kealper> Chr|s: you downloaded thatfrom minecraft.net right?
#523 [02:29] <Chr|s> I sure did
#524 [02:29] <Kealper> or is that the one inside .minecraft?
#525 [02:29] <Deathconsuming> Chris, just join my server, right now I am trying to set it up from a new laptop
#526 [02:30] <Chr|s> My server is up and running :)
#527 [02:30] <Chr|s> just installed linux today
#528 [02:30] <Deathconsuming> Lol, mine is too :P
#529 [02:30] <Cyberstorm> Goodnight GreyVulpine!
#530 [02:30] * GreyVulpine waves
#530 [02:30] <Kealper> Chr|s: java -Xms512M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft.jar
#531 [02:30] <Deathconsuming> Anyone know how I could have snow for my server (like all over the whole server)
#532 [02:30] <Chr|s> how would I add that to the launcher?
#533 [02:31] <Deathconsuming> Make it in a .txt and save as a .bat
#534 [02:31] <Kealper> Chr|s: make a bash script, or a shortcut to it
#535 [02:31] <Chr|s> ahh
#536 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Deathconsuming - Nix, not windows
#537 [02:31] <Chr|s> good thinking
#538 [02:31] <Kealper> Deathconsuming: he's not on windows
#539 [02:31] <Deathconsuming> Wait thats windows lol
#540 [02:31] <Deathconsuming> I just failed
#541 [02:31] <Kealper> Deathconsuming: and snow is not possible for the whole map, only specific spots
#542 [02:31] <Kealper> wow this went from heavy to just like...i have no idea
#543 [02:32] <Kealper> Equilibrium - Blut Im Auge....lol
#544 [02:32] <Kealper> i might have to skip this...
#545 [02:32] <Deathconsuming> So I can't have it snowing like everywhere? D:
#546 [02:32] <Kealper> Deathconsuming: no :/
#547 [02:32] <Deathconsuming> :(
#548 [02:33] <Deathconsuming> Oh well, I did what I wanted to and that was to transfer my server to a different host computer xD
#549 [02:34] <Chr|s> Kealper, odd. I made a minecraft.sh bash file and made a link from the desktop. From the desktop link it doesn't run. But if I click on bash script it does
#550 [02:35] <Kealper> weird...iono
#551 [02:35] <Deathconsuming> What do I need to do to have my multiplayer person fly?
#552 [02:35] <Kealper> shortcut to the bash script? :P
#553 [02:35] <Chr|s> hacks
#554 [02:35] <Deathconsuming> Without hacks =_=
#555 [02:35] <Chr|s> we don't support hacks here
#556 [02:35] <Kealper> Deathconsuming: a mod called Magic Carpet or something similar
#557 [02:36] <Chr|s> is it considered a hack?
#558 [02:36] <Kealper> it'd be a mod, but i guess that depends on your definition of hack
#559 [02:36] <Chr|s> true
#560 [02:36] <Chr|s> a lot of mods are similar
#561 [02:36] <Deathconsuming> Lol, the single player command mod has it as /fly or /noclip. Fly means flying, no clip goes through stuff.
#562 [02:37] <Deathconsuming> Anyway, how do I disable like certain damages such as water, fall and fire/lava?
#563 [02:37] <Kealper> can't without mods
#564 [02:37] <Chr|s> mods is the fun part
#565 [02:37] <Chr|s> installing plugins is so much fun
#566 [02:37] <Deathconsuming> FML damn creeper blew up my house
#567 [02:37] <Kealper> lol
#568 [02:38] <Deathconsuming> OMG ANOTHER ONE >_<
#569 [02:38] <Kealper> looks like my function for setting many users to a mode works
#570 [02:38] <Deathconsuming> Nice to know I picked a very bad spot for a house rofl.
#571 [02:38] <Kealper> more torches!
#572 [02:38] <Chr|s> you can always turn mobs off for now
#573 [02:39] <Deathconsuming> Anyway, I want to attach mods to my server like the no damage from falling,fire/lava, water is that possible? And I know chris but wheres the fun in that?
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#575 [02:40] <Deathconsuming> And Kealper lol
#576 [02:40] <Chr|s> plugins.bukkit.com I think is the addres
#577 [02:40] <Chr|s> or .org
#578 [02:40] <Kealper> for stuff like that, check out Bukkit, it's channel on this irc is #bukkit
#579 [02:41] <Kealper> in that channel is where you can find help for bukkit-related stuff
#580 [02:41] <Deathconsuming> So I have to use bukkit for my server? Lol...looks like I need to re-setup myserver
#581 [02:41] <Chr|s> if you want to use plugins then yeah
#582 [02:41] <Deathconsuming> Or can I just add bukkit to the folder?
#583 [02:41] <Chr|s> bukkit is a upcoming server mod
#584 [02:42] <Deathconsuming> So Chris, want to help me out with this bukkit thingy?
#585 [02:43] <Deathconsuming> Because I have no idea what I am doing
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#588 [02:44] <Chr|s> Deathconsuming, The best thing to do from my experience is read read read and trial and error.
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#590 [02:45] <Deathconsuming> Lol.
#591 [02:45] <Chr|s> There is some instances I had troubles, but I got help with that and tried doign most of it on my own
#592 [02:45] <Deathconsuming> So should I delete the server stuff I have right now?
#593 [02:45] <Chr|s> I haven't messed with my server at all for a day, may start back on tomorrow
#594 [02:45] <Chr|s> Deathconsuming, well what do you have now?
#595 [02:46] <Deathconsuming> Should I screenshot (somehow) and post it on like dropbox/uppit?
#596 [02:46] <Chr|s> sure if youd like
#597 [02:46] <Chr|s> instead of typing it in
#598 [02:46] <Deathconsuming> Now how do I take a screenshot xD
#599 [02:46] <Chr|s> easy
#600 [02:47] <Deathconsuming> Because I did it once before but I forgot how
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#602 [02:49] <Deathconsuming> Uploading to uppit
#603 [02:49] <Deathconsuming> http://up.ht/h1J4Cn
#604 [02:50] <Deathconsuming> Also...what opens .jar files >_<
#605 [02:50] <Deathconsuming> Stupid back up laptop don't have anything on it
#606 [02:51] <Deathconsuming> O.o
#607 [02:51] <Kealper> dangit
#608 [02:51] <Kealper> crashed one of AuBot's modules from the quit spam
#609 [02:52] <Deathconsuming> xD
#610 [02:52] <Kealper> i really gotta rewrite that one, it just can't take all the spam at once
#611 [02:52] <Deathconsuming> Anyway...chris should I keep or remove?
#612 [02:52] <Kealper> everything else is just like "meh." but this one just dies a horrid death
#613 [02:52] <Kealper> Deathconsuming: winrar or 7zip
#614 [02:52] <Kealper> for opening jar files
#615 [02:53] <Deathconsuming> Lol, I know that
#616 [02:53] <Deathconsuming> I kinda remembered a few minutes later
#617 [02:53] * Kealper goes back to a page of code
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#668 [02:55] <Kealper> ok so...that module that crashed can handle mass joining, just not quitting
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#671 [02:57] <Chr|s> that happens at least once a day doesn't it
#672 [02:57] <Chr|s> from that server
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#674 [02:58] <xales> it's actually pretty infrequent
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#676 [02:58] <Chr|s> hmm
#677 [02:58] <Chr|s> its happen quite a bit since I been coming to this channel
#678 [02:58] <xales> it's only been twice in last month or so
#679 [02:58] <Kealper> this network is actually pretty good when it comes to splits
#680 [02:59] <Chr|s> hmm
#681 [02:59] <Chr|s> maybe I have it confused with some other then
#682 [02:59] <Kealper> all i have to say is: quakenet.
#683 [02:59] <Kealper> stupid thing splits all the time
#684 [02:59] <Kealper> (atleast it used to when i was on it)
#685 [02:59] <Chr|s> look how many people that go to quakenet
#686 [02:59] <Chr|s> alot more compared to here lol
#687 [02:59] <Deathconsuming> I so need to shave...
#688 [03:00] <Kealper> xales: are + or @ allowed in a nick? i don't want to try on fear of a p30 from irpg
#689 [03:00] <Deathconsuming> Freaking irratating >_>
#690 [03:00] <xales> Kealper: make AuBot try it, but I think not
#691 [03:00] <Chr|s> why would you want it in your nick?
#692 [03:01] <Kealper> nope, ok that means i can just make a function to filter nicks by if they contain + or @ anywhere in the nick
#693 [03:01] <Chr|s> if you are an op or voiced the program you are using to connect to irc should automatically label yu
#694 [03:02] <Kealper> i'm making something secret and i'm trying to cut corners without breaking stuff :P
#695 [03:02] <Chr|s> ehh
#696 [03:02] <Kealper> although i'm getting quite distracted....
#697 [03:02] * Shadow386 cuts Kealper
#697 [03:02] <Shadow386> Kealper's corners*
#698 [03:02] <Kealper> noes!
#699 [03:02] <Shadow386> <)<
#700 [03:02] <Shadow386> stupid enter key
#701 [03:02] <Chr|s> hmm wonder what the problem could be with this bash file not opening in a shortcut on ubuntu
#702 [03:03] <Kealper> Shadow386: i do that same thing too lol
#703 [03:03] <Kealper> the enter key needs to be set up like the caps lock key
#704 [03:03] <Kealper> that'd help so much
#705 [03:04] <Shadow386> Or have a keyboard that plugs into your brain
#706 [03:04] <Shadow386> that way if you mess up, itll stop the thing being sent
#707 [03:05] <Kealper> or that
#708 [03:05] <Kealper> but then you wouldn't need to be using a keyboard at all
#709 [03:05] <Kealper> you could just think the sentence and send it
#710 [03:06] <Shadow386> And?
#711 [03:06] <Shadow386> All extra equipment is the best
#712 [03:06] <Bob_Sack> if i sent everything i thought of, i'd get banned pretty quick
#713 [03:06] <Shadow386> same
#714 [03:06] <Shadow386> lmao
#715 [03:07] <Shadow386> KEALPER SUCKS
#716 [03:07] <Shadow386> ohai
#717 [03:07] <Shadow386> <3
#718 [03:07] <Kealper> exactly.
#719 [03:07] <Shadow386> lol
#720 [03:07] <Bob_Sack> ban for the lulz
#721 [03:07] <Shadow386> Its freakin 3am. I need sleep. WHY AM I UP
#722 [03:07] <Kealper> you never said who to ban >.>
#723 [03:07] <Shadow386> lawl
#724 [03:08] <xales> ._.
#725 [03:08] <xales> when you ban someone
#726 [03:08] <xales> the bot alerts me
#727 [03:08] <Kealper> that was AuBot, btw
#728 [03:08] <xales> and xales.info is your hostmask
#729 [03:08] <xales> so it pings me
#730 [03:08] <xales> <_<
#731 [03:08] <Shadow386> lol
#732 [03:08] <Kealper> XD
#733 [03:08] <xales> <VOxelHead> [00:08] #MineCraftHelp: mode change '-b *!*@c-67-177-131-104.hsd1.mi.comcast.net' by Kealper!Kealper@xales.info
#734 [03:08] <xales> :|
#735 [03:09] <Kealper> well...i need a different rdns then...lol
#736 [03:09] <Deathconsuming> Could not find the main class: net,nubecraftLauncherFrame. Program will Exit
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#738 [03:09] <Shadow386> how2addhostmask?
#739 [03:09] <xales> Kealper: lol, you can't have a different one. I need this one :<
#740 [03:09] <xales> Shadow386: ?
#741 [03:09] <Shadow386> I wanna add a hostmask to mine :<
#742 [03:09] <xales> the IP you are connecting from has to actually resolve to the host you want
#743 [03:09] <Kealper> aperture needs to support ipv6 :/
#744 [03:10] <xales> Kealper really is connecting from xales.info
#745 [03:10] <xales> :P
#746 [03:10] <Shadow386> :<
#747 [03:10] <Kealper> indeed
#748 [03:10] <Kealper> i haxxored his server up
#749 [03:10] <Shadow386> So I cant set it up to irc.shadow-craft.net if I made that url point to my IP?
#750 [03:10] <Kealper> no
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#752 [03:10] <xales> your IP has to point back at it
#753 [03:10] <Shadow386> Darn
#754 [03:10] <Kealper> you have to have access to that IP's rDNS stuff in it's DNS config
#755 [03:10] <xales> and residential ISPs, even business connections from them, don't let you change that
#756 [03:11] <Shadow386> This is why I like other IRC, you can use hostserv
#757 [03:11] <Shadow386> lol
#758 [03:11] <xales> it's dumb
#759 [03:11] <Shadow386> its fun
#760 [03:11] <Shadow386> :<
#761 [03:11] <xales> just makes banning impossible
#762 [03:11] <Kealper> i like being able to see people's real ip :/
#763 [03:11] <xales> :<
#764 [03:11] <Kealper> xales: exactly why i like seeing their real IP
#765 [03:11] <mike__> On other networks cloak-hosts are possible, here not?
#766 [03:12] <Shadow386> How about using a hostmask, but it still banning the IP that the server is hiding?
#767 [03:12] <xales> mike__: Correct, no host-cloaking her
#768 [03:12] <xales> here*
#769 [03:12] <Jerub> ideally you want to be able to ban by the name they've registered as to nickserv
#770 [03:12] <Jerub> on freenode you can +b $a:Jerub
#771 [03:12] <Shadow386> change a nick, re-register
#772 [03:12] <Kealper> Shadow386: that wouldn't work to ban IPs, since clients would try to ban that mask when getting the user info
#773 [03:12] <Jerub> and that bans my account, no matter my nick at the time.
#774 [03:12] <mike__> than you have to buy some domain and server and connect over it xD
#775 [03:12] <Shadow386> bah
#776 [03:12] <Shadow386> oh wells
#777 [03:13] <Jerub> Shadow386: requires email validation, it's a pain
#778 [03:13] <Deathconsuming> I got craftbukkit
#779 [03:13] <Kealper> Jerub: simple fix....join server > make different account
#780 [03:13] <Shadow386> Make many emails
#781 [03:13] <Shadow386> noone has only one email
#782 [03:13] <Shadow386> Deathconsuming
#783 [03:13] <xales> Shadow386: catch-all accounts :3
#784 [03:13] <Shadow386> we dont support for bukkit
#785 [03:13] <Jerub> yes, it's just time consuming, and the validation emails take ages to arrive
#786 [03:13] <Jerub> (took several hours the other night for me)
#787 [03:13] <Kealper> who makes emails? email redirects? amirite?
#788 [03:14] * xales doesn't go on Freenode anymore \o/
#788 [03:14] <Shadow386> Takes like 2 mins for me to get a validation
#789 [03:14] <Deathconsuming> Ya shadow?
#790 [03:14] <Shadow386> we dont do support for bukkit if thats what you came for
#791 [03:14] <Deathconsuming> lol i know
#792 [03:14] <Shadow386> Kealper forwarding ftw
#793 [03:16] <Shadow386> alrighty im gonna try to sleep, cya
#794 [03:16] <mike__> is a question about bukkit support too? :D
#795 [03:16] <Shadow386> We no help with bukkit
#796 [03:16] <Shadow386> go bug them in #bukkit
#797 [03:16] <Kealper> it's not that we refuse to give support for mods
#798 [03:17] <Kealper> it's that we usually won't, but will tell you where to get help for them
#799 [03:17] <Shadow386|Sleep> Its not our duty to fix the mods' problems ;P
#800 [03:17] <Kealper> but if someone is feeling nice, they might help you in here with it
#801 [03:17] <VoxelHead> i like dootie
#802 [03:17] <Kealper> VoxelHead: >.>
#803 [03:17] <Shadow386|Sleep> .....wat
#804 [03:18] <xales> oh, kealper
#805 [03:19] <xales> you can DCC the bots now if you want \o/
#806 [03:20] <Kealper> oh joy lol
#807 [03:20] <xales> you probably want to connect to M
#808 [03:20] <xales> it's faster, being local and all :P
#809 [03:20] <Kealper> yeah, assuming localhost? lol
#810 [03:20] <xales> no
#811 [03:20] <xales> /dcc CHAT M
#812 [03:20] <xales> DCC is still negotiated thought IRC :)
#813 [03:20] <Kealper> no i mean is M on this server?
#814 [03:21] <xales> oh, yes
#815 [03:21] <xales> /whois M
#816 [03:21] <xales> :P
#817 [03:21] <Jerub> is it possible to move your spawn point so when you die you're closer to your last mine?
#818 [03:21] <Kealper> bleh...that would mean i would have had to tab over to the status window
#819 [03:21] <Kealper> Jerub: there are plans to make beds be spawn points
#820 [03:21] <xales> Jerub: You could use a map editor, a mod, or just wait
#821 [03:22] <Jerub> xales: wait for the beds to be spawn points?
#822 [03:22] <Jerub> i'm good with that :)
#823 [03:22] <xales> Kealper: lolwut
#824 [03:23] <xales> I've used....oh nevermind, I'm a derp
#825 [03:23] <Kealper> lol
#826 [03:23] <xales> I was going to say, I've used almost 3GB of transfer this month! That's more than I had on my VPS! WTF!!!
#827 [03:23] <xales> but then
#828 [03:23] <xales> it had 300GB
#829 [03:23] <xales> not 3
#830 [03:23] <xales> the stupid thing
#831 [03:23] <xales> on the website
#832 [03:23] <Kealper> lol
#833 [03:23] <xales> lists used transfer in MB
#834 [03:23] <xales> 2839 MB of 1000000 MB have been used
#835 [03:24] <xales> :|
#836 [03:24] * xales IS A DERP
#836 [03:24] <Kealper> that's meh for total transfer per month lol
#837 [03:24] <xales> 1TB? :P
#838 [03:24] <Kealper> i thought it was like super low
#839 [03:25] <xales> 1TB is quite a bit
#840 [03:25] <xales> :P
#841 [03:25] <Kealper> indeed it is
#842 [03:25] <Kealper> i thought it was like 250gb lol
#843 [03:25] <xales> and no, it's more than many give you
#844 [03:25] <xales> :P
#845 [03:26] <xales> Well
#846 [03:26] <xales> I'm off to bed
#847 [03:26] <xales> :<
#848 [03:26] <Kealper> i should be, soon too
#849 [03:26] <Kealper> i should be soon, too*
#850 [03:26] <Kealper> stupid commas
#851 [03:26] <Kealper> cya
#852 [03:26] <xales> cya!
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#854 [03:31] <Chr|s> man making a simple link in ubuntu and its not working. this is crazy
#855 [03:31] <Kealper> what is it not doing?
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#878 [06:16] <kaane> .players
#879 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> .players
#880 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> >.>
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#882 [06:24] <combatplayer> ....?
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#885 [06:36] <Deathconsuming> Can I have multiple levels running, or is it just one?
#886 [06:36] <fogWraith> One
#887 [06:36] <fogWraith> Unless you get mods
#888 [06:44] <Deathconsuming> >_<
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#916 [09:49] <Chr|s> hey guys
#917 [09:49] <Chr|s> anyone here have ubuntu linux?
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#919 [09:49] <Chr|s> How can I make a launcher to execute a bash sh file?
#920 [09:50] * It is away: zzzzz
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#922 [09:52] <remus> hey there, i ve some questions about premium accs on minecraft
#923 [09:53] <remus> can it be, that the databases are courrupt sometimes, cause i am not able to login with my prem. "user not premium" the client says... but ive bought the game :-/ any idea what can be happend?
#924 [09:54] <Chr|s> yes, servers get over loaded
#925 [09:54] <Chr|s> nothing on your end
#926 [09:54] <remus> ah, so it can be a bug and thats only a temp. problem?
#927 [09:54] <Chr|s> could be, if it only happens sometimes
#928 [09:55] <remus> my other acc is working fine, so...
#929 [09:55] <Chr|s> just make sure you have the most up to date version of java and clare your browser cache
#930 [09:55] <Chr|s> clear
#931 [09:55] <remus> its all cleaed, and java is up to date :-)
#932 [09:56] <remus> and its only with that acc since today morning...
#933 [09:57] <Chr|s> either you misspelled a word or the login servers are overloaded id say.
#934 [10:01] <remus> mh, so server is overloaded, cause the id of the acc is correct...
#935 [10:02] <remus> #help
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#938 [10:15] <Nyxe> How do i run java as java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui ?
#939 [10:19] <Nyxe> anyone around ?
#940 [10:20] <combatplayer> yes, but I don't know the answer
#941 [10:23] <Nyxe> k
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#945 [10:28] <Chr|s> Nyxe: have to make a bash script
#946 [10:28] <Chr|s> are you using windows or linux?
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#950 [10:38] <remus> who do u mean chris?
#951 [10:42] <Nyxe> windows Chr|s
#952 [10:43] <Chr|s> Nyxe: ok then you have to create a bat file
#953 [10:44] <Chr|s> open up notepad.txt and enter "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui" then save as server.bat. Make sure to save as "All Files" instead of Text Document
#954 [10:45] <Chr|s> server.bat not server.bat.
#955 [10:45] <Nyxe> ah ye
#956 [10:46] <Nyxe> i know how batch files work
#957 [10:46] <Nyxe> cheers
#958 [10:47] <Nyxe> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#959 [10:47] <Nyxe> is the no gui part neccesary?
#960 [10:47] <Chr|s> :)
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#963 [10:49] <Nyxe> is it worth doing it for the client too ?
#964 [10:49] <Nyxe> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft.jar nogui
#965 [10:51] <Chr|s> nah its not
#966 [10:51] <Chr|s> that is just the server command
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#969 [11:02] <mib_jf5cqq> how do i fix this whitescreen thing
#970 [11:03] <mib_jf5cqq> anyone?
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#972 [11:06] <mib_jf5cqq> anyone?
#973 [11:06] <Shadow386> we cant help if we dont know your problem
#974 [11:06] <mib_jf5cqq> i keep getting a whitescreen after loading
#975 [11:06] <mib_jf5cqq> i was able to play a while ago
#976 [11:07] <mib_jf5cqq> but now it's just blank
#977 [11:07] <Shadow386> delete the bin folder and reupdate?
#978 [11:08] <mib_jf5cqq> using just the browser
#979 [11:08] <Shadow386> What browser are you using?
#980 [11:08] <mib_jf5cqq> chrome
#981 [11:08] <Shadow386> try in firefox
#982 [11:08] <mib_jf5cqq> tried it with FF and opera still the same
#983 [11:08] <Shadow386> i sometimes have issues in chrome
#984 [11:08] <Shadow386> hm
#985 [11:08] <Shadow386> Try the client?
#986 [11:08] <mib_jf5cqq> if this keeps up i'll just play COD :))
#987 [11:10] <mib_jf5cqq> it wont even load single player lolz COD it is then...thanks
#988 [11:11] <Shadow386> mustve not even bought mc
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#990 [11:14] <widum> i have a question
#991 [11:15] <widum> if somebody bans you from multiplayer is there anyway to get back in
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#993 [11:16] <widum> helllo
#994 [11:17] <combatplayer> well why did they ban you
#995 [11:18] <widum> because i wanted a builder permit and they wouldnt give it to me so i asked please about 20 times
#996 [11:18] <widum> thats it
#997 [11:19] <combatplayer> and you can't contact the admin outside of the game? through forums or so to talk it over?
#998 [11:19] <combatplayer> forcing your way back in wouldn't really be optimal
#999 [11:20] <widum> it was the admin that banned me :/
#1000 [11:20] <combatplayer> that's why its him you need to talk it over with
#1001 [11:20] <combatplayer> so he can unban you
#1002 [11:21] <widum> yeah um do you have a way to talk to this person because he is a total ass hole the one who banned me, he was giving everyone permits an not me and he called my ninja skin crosseyed
#1003 [11:22] <combatplayer> I don't see why would you want to get back in then
#1004 [11:22] <combatplayer> if he finds out its you he will just ban you again anyway
#1005 [11:23] <widum> i can tget back in when i hit go to enter multiplayer it says i eas banned
#1006 [11:23] <combatplayer> play another server
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#1008 [11:26] <widum> but i made a reallllllly good friend who was a builder and he made me a hous eand hoped to see me sometimes because he doesnt have that many people to play with like me :(
#1009 [11:27] <combatplayer> sorry. but I don't know of a way to bypass the system. id find the best option to talk it over with the admin
#1010 [11:28] <widum> but i told you i cant get in at all
#1011 [11:28] <widum> :(
#1012 [11:28] <combatplayer> doesn't the server have some forum or something?
#1013 [11:28] <widum> he like maga banne dme or something
#1014 [11:28] <widum> odk :(
#1015 [11:28] <widum> idk :(
#1016 [11:28] <combatplayer> I can't do much to help you
#1017 [11:29] <widum> do you want the code
#1018 [11:30] <widum> it is 83. 222. 240. 167 minus the spaces
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#1020 [11:33] <combatplayer> is that also your name in minecraft?
#1021 [11:33] <widum> what
#1022 [11:33] <widum> no my name is magnetslayer13
#1023 [11:33] <combatplayer> is widum your username in minecraft
#1024 [11:33] <widum> just that
#1025 [11:34] <widum> magnetslayer13 the ninja
#1026 [11:34] <widum> thats what my skin is a ninja
#1027 [11:34] <combatplayer> well the only one online atm is some spammer
#1028 [11:35] <Shadow386> We dont help with bruteforcing into a server
#1029 [11:35] <Shadow386> Also, if you got banned, take it up with the owner, not us
#1030 [11:35] <Shadow386> We do not support private server banishment issues
#1031 [11:36] <combatplayer> that's why I went on the server to ask the admin
#1032 [11:36] <combatplayer> but he is apparently not there
#1033 [11:36] <Shadow386> Well then he has to wait or play another server
#1034 [11:36] <widum> shadow386 you are not helping me get with my friend that i made any more than that stupid admin strife1988
#1035 [11:37] <Shadow386> That sentence has no structure
#1036 [11:37] <combatplayer> was about to say
#1037 [11:38] <widum> you ahve no structure
#1038 [11:39] <Shadow386> At least I can spell
#1039 [11:39] <widum> good day
#1040 [11:39] <Shadow386> :3
#1041 [11:39] <widum> shut up
#1042 [11:39] <combatplayer> this server seems horrible... there's barely anyone here and those there are are spamming the chat
#1043 [11:39] <widum> are you sure combatplayer
#1044 [11:39] <Shadow386> I have a constant set of mods on my server and when they arent on, I monitor from my IRC
#1045 [11:39] <widum> i cant get mods
#1046 [11:39] <Shadow386> Gotta love the strict system that is perfected and people love
#1047 [11:40] <widum> i dont get mods
#1048 [11:40] <combatplayer> that's why I miss the minegalaxy server
#1049 [11:40] <widum> rminegalaxy???
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#1051 [11:40] <Shadow386> minegalaxy seemed nice
#1052 [11:40] <widum> what is that???
#1053 [11:40] <Shadow386> I wanted an affiliation with them, but they died
#1054 [11:41] <Jakebobjo> Any one good with CSS? i need help
#1055 [11:41] <combatplayer> well they aren't entirely dead
#1056 [11:41] <Shadow386> Affiliations help the world go round~
#1057 [11:41] <Shadow386> Jakebobjo yesssssssssss?
#1058 [11:41] <widum> WHAT IS MINEGALAXY??
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#1060 [11:41] <Shadow386> It was the name of a server
#1061 [11:41] <combatplayer> minegalaxy is a small community with their own server
#1062 [11:41] <widum> oh ok
#1063 [11:41] <widum> what is all of your skins im a ninja
#1064 [11:42] <Jakebobjo> um i have made a foot and the content is mine 350px then the footer below it but if i use over the 350 it wont move my footer
#1065 [11:42] <Jakebobjo> just the links will move?
#1066 [11:42] <relsqui> mine is me
#1067 [11:42] <widum> cool
#1068 [11:42] <widum> and
#1069 [11:42] <Shadow386> Jakebobjo send in PM, this isnt minecraft related ;]
#1070 [11:42] <widum> cool
#1071 [11:42] <Jakebobjo> lol
#1072 [11:42] <combatplayer> mine is some sort of odd looking man
#1073 [11:42] <combatplayer> with a bloody face
#1074 [11:42] <LRWerewolf> Jakebobjo, Um... curious, but... wouldn't you likely get more help by askign for that kinda subject in a subject-appropriate channel?
#1075 [11:42] <LRWerewolf> s/askign/asking/
#1076 [11:43] <widum> ummm no he wouldnt were talking
#1077 [11:43] <Jakebobjo> i dont use irc often lol
#1078 [11:43] <widum> but i have to go sobye
#1079 [11:44] <Jakebobjo> Shadow386 um i sent pm
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#1081 [11:45] <LRWerewolf> Jakebobjo, Before using a service which places you in a public context and public view, do you not think it'd be wise to read up on the appropriate social protocols? IRC consists of many servers with many channels, some for social interaction, some for support. This, for example, is a support channel, but for minecraft, not CSS or other webdesign. You might look up the appropriate channels on the freenode network; you will probably be warmly r
#1082 [11:45] <LRWerewolf> eceived and eagerly assisted.
#1083 [11:45] <LRWerewolf> Not that you're not warmly received and eagerly assisted HERE... but it should be "eagerly assisted with minecraft issues"
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#1085 [11:54] <combatplayer> god damn ports.. can't ever start a damn server
#1086 [11:54] <combatplayer> sigh
#1087 [11:55] <Tanjoodo> Lol
#1088 [11:55] <combatplayer> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
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#1090 [11:55] <combatplayer> always that message
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#1092 [11:56] * Tanjoodo has no experience with networking
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#1094 [11:56] <combatplayer> neither do I obviously lol
#1095 [11:56] <Shadow386> Try removing the ip from the IP line
#1096 [11:56] <Shadow386> leave that line blank
#1097 [11:57] <combatplayer> well then noone can connect to it unless local
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#1099 [11:57] <Shadow386> not really
#1100 [11:57] <LRWerewolf> Well of course you can't bind to it! God already sent it to hell, it's on a different network now! Geeze, try /dev/hell. And next time, don't damn your nic!
#1101 [11:57] <Shadow386> Ive had it with no line many times and people can still connect
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#1103 [11:57] <combatplayer> hmm
#1104 [11:58] <combatplayer> I tried again
#1105 [11:58] <combatplayer> it still failed to bind to port
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#1107 [11:58] <Tanjoodo> Well, Duh!
#1108 [11:58] <Shadow386> Perhaps something is using that port or its not opened in the firewall?
#1109 [11:58] <Tanjoodo> :P
#1110 [11:58] <LRWerewolf> combatplayer: Try changing your port. Ten bucks says something's already using it.
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#1112 [11:58] <combatplayer> I tried 25565 25564 25566 22222
#1113 [11:59] <Tanjoodo> Try 666
#1114 [11:59] <LRWerewolf> Shadow386: I know of no firewall which would prevent the bind. In fact, to do so would be counter-productive.
#1115 [11:59] <LRWerewolf> Tanjoodo: Will fail if he's on linux and not root.
#1116 [11:59] <combatplayer> im on windows 7
#1117 [11:59] <Tanjoodo> I was just kidding :/
#1118 [11:59] <LRWerewolf> combatplayer: Then try 666 and set "hell-world=true"
#1119 [11:59] <LRWerewolf> ^.^
#1120 [11:59] <combatplayer> .... sure... why not
#1121 [12:00] <combatplayer> .............
#1122 [12:00] <combatplayer> that worked
#1123 [12:00] <LRWerewolf> combatplayer: I am, of course, joking at that point. You're gonna fry your map if you do it.
#1124 [12:00] <combatplayer> lol im aware you're joking
#1125 [12:00] <Shadow386> then something is using port 25565
#1126 [12:01] <combatplayer> just did it for the hell of it
#1127 [12:01] <LRWerewolf> combatplayer: Find out what's running on your chosen port then, 'cause you've got a port conflict.
#1128 [12:01] <Shadow386> open up the task manager and check for other java programs
#1129 [12:01] <combatplayer> I did close down all java related stuff
#1130 [12:02] <Tanjoodo> Use port 4936936939594
#1131 [12:02] <Tanjoodo> No one uses that.
#1132 [12:02] <combatplayer> is that even a valid port
#1133 [12:02] <combatplayer> don't think so
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#1135 [12:03] <LRWerewolf> combatplayer, bring up a cmd prompt and type `netstat -n` (without the ` marks) and see if 25565 is in the list as a local address's port.
#1136 [12:03] <combatplayer> it's not
#1137 [12:04] <LRWerewolf> combatplayer, O.O
#1138 [12:04] <LRWerewolf> combatplayer, What firewall if any are you using?
#1139 [12:05] <combatplayer> windows one and adaware pro
#1140 [12:05] <Shadow386> oh god
#1141 [12:05] <combatplayer> though the server worked fine yesterday
#1142 [12:05] <LRWerewolf> brb
#1143 [12:05] <Shadow386> adaware pro
#1144 [12:05] <Shadow386> kill it with fire
#1145 [12:05] <combatplayer> lol
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#1147 [12:05] <Shadow386> Im not kidding, that dont do squat
#1148 [12:05] <combatplayer> im aware
#1149 [12:05] <Shadow386> no you're not
#1150 [12:05] <combatplayer> I only use it to remove spyware now and then
#1151 [12:05] <Shadow386> youre ADaware
#1152 [12:06] <Shadow386> lolololol
#1153 [12:06] <Shadow386> get a real virus program
#1154 [12:06] <Shadow386> like Avast or MSE
#1155 [12:06] <combatplayer> I run both avast and avg
#1156 [12:06] <Shadow386> at the same time?
#1157 [12:06] <combatplayer> yeah
#1158 [12:06] <Shadow386> No wonder so many problems
#1159 [12:06] <combatplayer> they never conflicted eachother
#1160 [12:06] <Shadow386> so much virus protection is whats killing your stuff
#1161 [12:07] <combatplayer> my only problem is a closed gate
#1162 [12:07] <combatplayer> well open but not working gate
#1163 [12:07] <Shadow386> prob one of the virus programs if it detects too many incoming connections through that port
#1164 [12:07] <fogWraith> !paid hssf
#1165 [12:07] <Shadow386> fogWraith GTFO
#1166 [12:08] * fogWraith rubs his butt against Shadow386
#1166 [12:08] <Shadow386> I still need to advertise WraithRO everywhere to get some people in it
#1167 [12:08] <combatplayer> ... that's uuh... cute...
#1168 [12:08] * Shadow386 beats it with a stick
#1168 [12:08] <Tanjoodo> Hi fogWraith
#1169 [12:08] <fogWraith> ;/
#1170 [12:08] <Shadow386> ;D
#1171 [12:08] <fogWraith> Halloe
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#1173 [12:08] <Tanjoodo> Remember me?
#1174 [12:08] <Shadow386> that stick is plank
#1175 [12:08] <Shadow386> if you know what I mean
#1176 [12:08] <fogWraith> Tanjoodo.... Tanjoodo
#1177 [12:08] * fogWraith thinks
#1177 [12:08] <Tanjoodo> The first admin on Crafted
#1178 [12:09] <fogWraith> !
#1179 [12:09] <fogWraith> Been a while
#1180 [12:09] <Tanjoodo> Yea,
#1181 [12:09] <fogWraith> What you up to these days?
#1182 [12:09] <Tanjoodo> Call of Duty
#1183 [12:09] <fogWraith> :P
#1184 [12:09] <Tanjoodo> I got a xbox
#1185 [12:09] <Tanjoodo> \o/
#1186 [12:09] <HiVoltage> Err, I put a crapload of mods into mimecraft.jar and then deleted META_INF, but they wont work?
#1187 [12:09] <fogWraith> Ah, I see ;)
#1188 [12:09] <HiVoltage> I have modloader
#1189 [12:09] <HiVoltage> and more blocks
#1190 [12:10] <Tanjoodo> Still a noon though :(
#1191 [12:10] <Shadow386> We dont usually help with mods in here HiVoltage
#1192 [12:10] <Tanjoodo> Noob*
#1193 [12:10] <fogWraith> Heh
#1194 [12:10] <Shadow386> but prob some are conflicting and killing each other
#1195 [12:10] <Shadow386> google has all the answers
#1196 [12:10] <HiVoltage> :/
#1197 [12:10] <fogWraith> Ohsnap, gotta jet... got class soon
#1198 [12:11] * fogWraith puts on the teachers robes n shit
#1198 [12:11] <fogWraith> Teaching the elderly how to use computers, yay!
#1199 [12:11] <combatplayer> sounds like hell to me
#1200 [12:11] <Tanjoodo> I tried that once..
#1201 [12:11] <Tanjoodo> Didn't work out well
#1202 [12:11] <fogWraith> $22/hour
#1203 [12:12] <combatplayer> id say its worth it
#1204 [12:12] <fogWraith> Shit yes :P
#1205 [12:12] <Shadow386> OI
#1206 [12:12] <Shadow386> SHARE THAT
#1207 [12:12] * fogWraith jets
#1207 [12:12] <Shadow386> GET BACK HERE
#1208 [12:12] <Shadow386> Damn you fog!
#1209 [12:13] <HiVoltage> Is there a channel that helps with mods?
#1210 [12:14] <Shadow386> Usually the mod creators have the channels
#1211 [12:14] <Tanjoodo> Is it bukkit related?
#1212 [12:14] <HiVoltage> I dont think so
#1213 [12:14] <Shadow386> perhaps #mcmods?
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#1216 [12:16] <HiVoltage> Mcmods doesnt exist
#1217 [12:16] <HiVoltage> Or mincraftmods
#1218 [12:16] <combatplayer> make it!
#1219 [12:16] * Tanjoodo joins #mcmods
#1219 [12:16] <Tanjoodo> It exists now!
#1220 [12:16] <Shadow386> lol
#1221 [12:16] <Shadow386> idk doooooooood
#1222 [12:17] <Tanjoodo> With practically 0 help to offer
#1223 [12:17] <combatplayer> well tis better than no he- oh wait
#1224 [12:18] * Tanjoodo changes topic to "don't you even dare asking a question!
#1224 [12:18] <Tanjoodo> "
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#1227 [12:23] <semirotta> guys i need help with the mods
#1228 [12:23] <semirotta> i cant get them work
#1229 [12:23] <semirotta> shadow u use mic or something? :O
#1230 [12:24] <semirotta> u have the microphone thingie there
#1231 [12:24] <semirotta> ^^
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#1233 [12:25] <Eugene> HELP THIS MAN
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#1235 [12:25] <semirotta> YES
#1236 [12:25] <MinecrafterII> Hello?
#1237 [12:25] <semirotta> listen to eugene
#1238 [12:25] <semirotta> hi
#1239 [12:25] <semirotta> could u aid me?
#1240 [12:25] <semirotta> i got proplems with mods :(
#1241 [12:25] <MinecrafterII> Maybe, but I have a problem as well, but maybe I can, say what it is
#1242 [12:26] <semirotta> ok, ive done all what forums tell me to do to get mods work
#1243 [12:26] <semirotta> but
#1244 [12:26] <semirotta> i still do not get them work?!
#1245 [12:26] <semirotta> so , if someone could help me so i do all right -.-
#1246 [12:26] <MinecrafterII> Do you get a black screen?
#1247 [12:26] <semirotta> my english is not great
#1248 [12:26] <semirotta> noo game works and all but it wont load mods
#1249 [12:26] <LRWerewolf> lol... I kickbanned myself on #mcmods. roflmao.
#1250 [12:26] <semirotta> lol ^^
#1251 [12:26] <MinecrafterII> Are the mod files loaded in the minecraft.jar?
#1252 [12:26] <semirotta> i removed the files, loaded them again so i can start clean now
#1253 [12:27] <semirotta> u got msn ? xfire? or such
#1254 [12:27] <semirotta> steam perhaps?
#1255 [12:27] <MinecrafterII> I rather not share that here
#1256 [12:27] <semirotta> ok
#1257 [12:27] <semirotta> its ok
#1258 [12:27] <semirotta> so
#1259 [12:27] <semirotta> i have
#1260 [12:27] <semirotta> modloader v5
#1261 [12:27] <semirotta> GUIAP
#1262 [12:27] <semirotta> audiomod
#1263 [12:27] <semirotta> spawnlist
#1264 [12:27] <MinecrafterII> So you have a minecraft.jar, with all the mod files in it
#1265 [12:27] <semirotta> turbomodelthingy
#1266 [12:27] <semirotta> all unzipped
#1267 [12:27] <Shadow386> We dont help wtih mods here, gtfo
#1268 [12:28] <semirotta> now i open minecraft.jar and copy those there?
#1269 [12:28] <semirotta> shadow?... i was told to go here
#1270 [12:28] <MinecrafterII> you place the class files of the mods in the minecraft.jar
#1271 [12:28] <LRWerewolf> semirotta: While I don't doubt you were, you were told incorrectly.
#1272 [12:29] <Shadow386> semirotta by who?
#1273 [12:29] <semirotta> eugene
#1274 [12:29] <semirotta> told me to a sk here
#1275 [12:29] <feenyx> ??> semirotta mods
#1276 [12:29] <VoxelHead> semirotta: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1277 [12:29] <VoxelHead> semirotta: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1278 [12:30] <semirotta> -.- eh
#1279 [12:30] <semirotta> minecraft, ive done it. copied all those to minecraft.jar and now i just delete META_INF and it should work?
#1280 [12:31] <Eugene> Isn't this the place to go when you have problems with minecraft?
#1281 [12:31] <MinecrafterII> Yes, it should, but to make sure, you have a program that can open jar files as they are, you didn't 'unzipped' the jar?
#1282 [12:31] <combatplayer> it is, but mods aren't part of minecraft
#1283 [12:31] <semirotta> i have 7-zip
#1284 [12:31] <semirotta> i open jar with that
#1285 [12:31] <MinecrafterII> Ok, that's good
#1286 [12:31] <semirotta> i just bought this game anyway :D
#1287 [12:31] <Eugene> I see, my bad then
#1288 [12:32] <MinecrafterII> Then you can start it and play
#1289 [12:32] <semirotta> well still, ive done like tutorials tell -> they still somehow wont work
#1290 [12:32] <semirotta> ok is tart game
#1291 [12:32] <semirotta> start*
#1292 [12:33] <semirotta> im in game, nothing seems different. Can i see if there is any mods working?
#1293 [12:33] <semirotta> OO
#1294 [12:33] <semirotta> now it works
#1295 [12:33] <semirotta> i press ESC, world mod options
#1296 [12:33] <MinecrafterII> Okay
#1297 [12:33] <semirotta> there is the MO creature mod
#1298 [12:33] <MinecrafterII> Glad to help, but I have a problem concerning minecraft as well
#1299 [12:33] <semirotta> ty
#1300 [12:33] <semirotta> its just odd
#1301 [12:34] <semirotta> it didnt work last time ive tried
#1302 [12:34] <Shadow386> semirotta
#1303 [12:34] <Shadow386> go to #risucraft
#1304 [12:34] <Shadow386> MinecrafterII what is your issue?
#1305 [12:34] <MinecrafterII> This involves a step to get a mod working, namely deleting the meta-inf folder
#1306 [12:34] <semirotta> but
#1307 [12:34] <semirotta> nvm
#1308 [12:34] <MinecrafterII> whenever i delete the meta-inf folder, the program gets stuck on the done loading screen
#1309 [12:34] <semirotta> ...
#1310 [12:34] <Shadow386> What mod so I can redirect you?
#1311 [12:35] <semirotta> when i add new mod, there is no meta-inf so how i can delete it? ^^
#1312 [12:35] <MinecrafterII> there isn't any mod installed
#1313 [12:35] <semirotta> shadow i got it work already so ty
#1314 [12:35] <Shadow386> semirotta check the requirements and collisions to make sure there are no problems with the mods you are using
#1315 [12:35] <MinecrafterII> the only change i have made to all the files is deleting the meta-inf folder
#1316 [12:35] <Shadow386> Thats why
#1317 [12:35] <MinecrafterII> ?
#1318 [12:35] <Shadow386> you need the meta-inf I believe for vanilla with no mods
#1319 [12:36] <semirotta> collisions?
#1320 [12:36] <Shadow386> meaning mods that collide
#1321 [12:36] <MinecrafterII> i have to go now, i'll leave the window open so you can post possible solutions, i'm off now for dinner
#1322 [12:36] <semirotta> how about this: i had dragon mod also which should be adding dragons
#1323 [12:36] <semirotta> but
#1324 [12:36] <semirotta> it wont load?
#1325 [12:37] <Shadow386> means it might be faulty
#1326 [12:37] <semirotta> ok
#1327 [12:37] <Shadow386> you should read these threads
#1328 [12:37] <Shadow386> they usually have your answers
#1329 [12:37] <semirotta> it should be seen in the MOD part in game if it works right?
#1330 [12:37] <Shadow386> Idk, I play vanilla, I dont use mods :)
#1331 [12:38] <semirotta> xD i just like some of the mods so id want them work :D
#1332 [12:39] <Shadow386> well go read the threads that have the mods
#1333 [12:39] <Shadow386> they usually tell you how to get it working right, we dont have ALL the answers for mods here
#1334 [12:39] <Shadow386> :P
#1335 [12:40] <semirotta> yeeh. Ty :)
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#1337 [12:43] <LeVeL> my java stops responding and the game crashes, what can I do?
#1338 [12:44] <LRWerewolf> LeVeL: Paste your java console's output to pastebin for us? That's very little diagnostic information to work with that you provide.
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#1340 [12:45] <ClrE> Hello all i need some help you se i try to join servers but it stands lost connection <ht ml> do someone now what the problem is?
#1341 [12:45] <Shadow386> lost connection <ht ml>?
#1342 [12:45] <ClrE> Yes
#1343 [12:46] <Shadow386> Can you post the whole error?
#1344 [12:46] <Shadow386> Also, we need more support channels for other languages.
#1345 [12:46] <ClrE> Ok
#1346 [12:46] <ClrE> Failed to login <ht ml> it stands¨
#1347 [12:47] <Shadow386> sounds like theres something wrong with the login servers or you didnt log in correctly
#1348 [12:48] <Shadow386> did you buy minecraft?
#1349 [12:48] <ClrE> Yes of curse
#1350 [12:48] <ClrE> i have bougth it
#1351 [12:48] <Shadow386> hm
#1352 [12:48] <Shadow386> You or the server you're trying to connect to might be having some issues connecting to the main minecraft server
#1353 [12:49] <ClrE> No you se it is all servers i have tried like 20 servers
#1354 [12:49] <Shadow386> then it might be something to do with your client
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#1356 [12:49] <ClrE> Minecraft client or my internet
#1357 [12:50] <ClrE> ?
#1358 [12:50] <Shadow386> one or both
#1359 [12:50] <si458> hey
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#1361 [12:50] <Shadow386> si458 what server list
#1362 [12:50] <si458> http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp the public servers
#1363 [12:51] <si458> it use to show up :s
#1364 [12:51] <Shadow386> Thats for classic servers
#1365 [12:51] <si458> ah...
#1366 [12:51] <si458> so is the a list for the beta servers then?
#1367 [12:52] <feenyx> try in #smp
#1368 [12:53] <Shadow386> this list you are looking for is for only minecraft classic servers
#1369 [12:53] <Shadow386> for beta servers, there are hundreds of sites for that
#1370 [12:53] <si458> oh ok :(
#1371 [12:53] <Iguana> if you
#1372 [12:53] <Iguana> are trying to look for the smp address
#1373 [12:53] <Iguana> find your ip
#1374 [12:53] <Iguana> and then put a :25565 behind it
#1375 [12:54] <Iguana> because that's typically the default port
#1376 [12:54] <Shadow386> Iguana they were trying to add a beta server to the classic list
#1377 [12:54] <Iguana> oic
#1378 [12:54] <si458> i didnt no :(
#1379 [12:54] <si458> not my fault i dont read is it! :(
#1380 [13:01] <aetherian> sigh. nothing like having a good dream and realizing it was just a dream.
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#1382 [13:16] <MinecrafterII> Okay people, I'm back
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#1384 [13:17] <DopeGhoti> What happened to Minecrafter I?
#1385 [13:18] <MinecrafterII> That username was already taken when I first created my account
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#1387 [13:18] <MinecrafterII> Wait, Minecrafter was taken, and IMO it's pretty much the same as MinecrafterI
#1388 [13:19] <MinecrafterII> But anyway, I'm here because minecraft gets stuck on the 'done loading' screen. this happens when I delete the meta-inf folder, which is necessary for running mods
#1389 [13:27] <MinecrafterII> no one?
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#1391 [13:31] <MinecrafterII> Oh well, I'll leave here and start searching for another solution
#1392 [13:32] <aetherian> eh heh heh
#1393 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget patience.
#1394 [13:33] <combatplayer> that's a poor gadget since most people have it
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#1396 [13:35] <DopeGhoti> not Minecrafter II.
#1397 [13:35] <combatplayer> sure he does
#1398 [13:35] <combatplayer> just not enough
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#1401 [13:45] <aetherian> be right back, gotta restart
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#1417 [14:29] <Zaneo> hi
#1418 [14:29] <Zaneo> I need help please
#1419 [14:29] <combatplayer> hi
#1420 [14:29] <Zaneo> I cant log into my account
#1421 [14:29] <Zaneo> it says that my pass is not valid
#1422 [14:30] <Zaneo> please help
#1423 [14:30] <EmpiresBane> it means that your password is wrong, i believe
#1424 [14:30] <Zaneo> no
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#1426 [14:30] <aetherian> heh heh
#1427 [14:30] <Tanjoodo> what's your username?
#1428 [14:30] <EmpiresBane> oh, then i have not seen that one yet
#1429 [14:30] <Zaneo> because the password is saved in the client
#1430 [14:30] <Tanjoodo> ~ishacked Zaneo
#1431 [14:31] <Zaneo> Zaneo1337
#1432 [14:31] <Zaneo> whyso?
#1433 [14:31] <Tanjoodo> ~ishacked Zaneo1337
#1434 [14:31] <Zaneo> ?
#1435 [14:31] <Tanjoodo> It's not working :?
#1436 [14:31] <Tanjoodo> :/
#1437 [14:31] <aetherian> o.o
#1438 [14:31] <Zaneo> what do u mean ~ishacked Zaneo1337?
#1439 [14:31] <Tanjoodo> a command to see if your acc is on the list of hacked accounts
#1440 [14:32] <aetherian> Zaneo: please attempt to input the correct password
#1441 [14:32] <Tanjoodo> which doesn't seem to work...
#1442 [14:32] <Zaneo> how could there be a list of all those
#1443 [14:32] <Zaneo> `?
#1444 [14:32] <Zaneo> I have tried for hours
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#1446 [14:33] <aetherian> I call BS
#1447 [14:33] <EmpiresBane> on?
#1448 [14:33] <Zaneo> what?
#1449 [14:33] <aetherian> zaneo for one
#1450 [14:33] <aetherian> it'd say something about too many login attempts by then
#1451 [14:33] <Zaneo> I can assure u i am not BSing
#1452 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> Zaneo: go to www.minecraft.net, and log in. When doing so, erase and re-enter both your username, and your password.
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#1454 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> Zaneo: if that fails, go to http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#1455 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> and follow the directions thereupon
#1456 [14:34] <Zaneo> already tried sorry
#1457 [14:35] <Zaneo> not working
#1458 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> define 'not working'
#1459 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> did you not get a password reset email?
#1460 [14:35] <Zaneo> I get no EMAIL
#1461 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> did you check your spam/junk mail?
#1462 [14:35] <Zaneo> have tried before
#1463 [14:35] <Zaneo> yeah
#1464 [14:35] <Zaneo> I have emailed notch 2 times
#1465 [14:35] <Zaneo> he doesnt answer
#1466 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> Are you certain you're using the email address associated with your Minecraft account?
#1467 [14:36] <Zaneo> no
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#1469 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> well, make certain
#1470 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> because that matters.
#1471 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> Did you purchase using PayPal, or a Credit card?
#1472 [14:36] <Zaneo> i think i used a 10-minutes disposible email
#1473 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> That would be a problem
#1474 [14:36] <Zaneo> paypal i thinkj
#1475 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> okay, so log into Paypal, and look at your transaction records
#1476 [14:37] <Zaneo> ok
#1477 [14:37] <Zaneo> i will do that when my big bro is hom e
#1478 [14:37] <Zaneo> used his
#1479 [14:37] <Zaneo> im underage
#1480 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> well, it'd be his email address then
#1481 [14:37] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE underage? feel these nipples!
#1482 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> vox, be quiet
#1483 [14:37] <Zaneo> XD
#1484 [14:37] <VoxelHead> fine
#1485 [14:38] <EmpiresBane> ignore voxel
#1486 [14:38] <Zaneo> thanks fore help
#1487 [14:38] <Zaneo> for*
#1488 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> good luck, Zaneo
#1489 [14:38] <Zaneo> ty'
#1490 [14:38] <EmpiresBane> oh...
#1491 [14:39] <EmpiresBane> i wonder
#1492 [14:39] <EmpiresBane> damn...
#1493 [14:39] <EmpiresBane> hehehe....
#1494 [14:39] <EmpiresBane> can't talk now, can you, bitch
#1495 [14:39] <EmpiresBane> oh....
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#1497 [14:41] <EmpiresBane> that took awhile
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#1499 [14:42] <Madriker> Hello everyone
#1500 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#1501 [14:45] <Madriker> I'd have a question
#1502 [14:46] <Madriker> If a mod "requires a mod loader", both Risugami's and MyCraft will do, or do I have to use a specific one?
#1503 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> there is a 'mod loader' mod
#1504 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> for details..
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#1506 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> ??> Madriker mods
#1507 [14:47] <VoxelHead> Madriker: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1508 [14:47] <VoxelHead> Madriker: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#1511 [14:48] <Madriker> Hmmm... Ok, thanks.
#1512 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Zaneo irc/dontpm
#1513 [14:48] <Zaneo> the reciept should be enough
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#1515 [14:48] <Zaneo> right
#1516 [14:48] <Zaneo> ?
#1517 [14:49] <Zaneo> Is there someone here that knows if the Reciept is enought for retrieving account info
#1518 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> If you email payment@mojang.com with the payment confirmation for the account associated with the paypal email address, that might -- *might* -- do the trick
#1519 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> for other email addresses; I do not know, but it would still be an email to payment@mojang.com
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#1521 [14:51] <Zaneo> ok I did but Notch or anyone at Mojang have answered....?!?!?
#1522 [14:51] <Zaneo> havent*
#1523 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> Zaneo: emails are answered in the order they're received. Get in line.
#1524 [14:53] <Zaneo> but it was like 2 months ago I sent it
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#1526 [14:53] <Zaneo> I have had this problem quite a while
#1527 [14:54] <Zaneo> I find it very strange
#1528 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> Did you email from another disposable email address?
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#1530 [14:55] <Zaneo> no
#1531 [14:55] <Zaneo> from my REAL hotmail email adress
#1532 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> So you emailed from a third email address, about a second email address associated with a gift code bought at the first email address. No wonder they got no reply.
#1533 [14:56] <Zaneo> what?
#1534 [14:56] <Zaneo> no just two emails
#1535 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> For the eleventh time, have an email send from the email associated with the email address from which the purchace was made
#1536 [14:57] <victory65535> could someone please pm me a recap of this discussion?
#1537 [14:57] <Zaneo> but it was a disposible
#1538 [15:01] <Zaneo> the email at purchase was a disposible u see?
#1539 [15:01] <Zaneo> i dont remeber it
#1540 [15:01] <Zaneo> or is there a third email, that is linked to my bros pay-pal account?
#1541 [15:01] <Zaneo> I dont get it ...?!?!?
#1542 [15:01] <Zaneo> Please fill me in
#1543 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> okay, and I'll type really slowly so that you can best understand
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#1545 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> PayPal accounts are specifically tied to specific email addresses. This is the email address associated with the purchase. If there is a problem relating to a Minecraft purchase made from this account, this is the email address from which the message to payment@mojang.com must be sent.
#1546 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> I do not know how I can possibly make this any more clear.
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#1548 [15:04] <victory65535> thanks for your help. you've answered my question :P
#1549 [15:04] <mathias1> Hi, I just downloaded the exe for minecraft_server, but when I log into it, I just see a pretty much empty world that I keeps falling in
#1550 [15:04] <mathias1> I just see some blocks here and there, but no "real" world
#1551 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> victory65535: glad to have helped?
#1552 [15:05] <VoxelHead> you want the answer? you can't handle the answer!
#1553 [15:05] <victory65535> lol.
#1554 [15:05] <Zaneo> Ok i understand now
#1555 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> mathias1: are you running the server and the client on the same computer?
#1556 [15:05] <mathias1> Yes
#1557 [15:06] <Zaneo> i guess i will have to fix some things with my brother then
#1558 [15:06] <Zaneo> thank you
#1559 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> what are the specifications of this computer?
#1560 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> Zaneo: you're welcome
#1561 [15:06] <mathias1> Well I have a pretty good amd processor and 4gb of ram
#1562 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> define 'pretty good'
#1563 [15:07] <mathias1> Well its a dual-core running at 2.7ghz
#1564 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> Are you running any firewalls or other security software?
#1565 [15:07] <mathias1> Nothing like that
#1566 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> (a connection from a system to itself still uses the network stack)
#1567 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> What OS?
#1568 [15:07] <mathias1> Cpu load is aobut 15% and memory 2gb
#1569 [15:08] <mathias1> win7
#1570 [15:08] <gretchen> mathias1 check your pm
#1571 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> Have you tried connecting from a different computer?
#1572 [15:08] <VoxelHead> what a silly question *giggle*
#1573 [15:08] <Zaneo> hey DopeGhoti what chat client do u use?
#1574 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> Zaneo: irssi
#1575 [15:08] <Zaneo> ok
#1576 [15:08] <mathias1> DopeGhoti: actually no, but i'll do that right away, didnt think that could be the issue?
#1577 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> it's possible, and worth a try
#1578 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> running the server and client at the same time on the same machine is like trying to run two copies of Crysis 2 at the same time
#1579 [15:09] <Zaneo> (I am REALLY NOOB at chat clients) but is there a way to add u as like a contact ? ( so I can contact u later about this)
#1580 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> Zaneo: not really, but #minecrafthelp is always here
#1581 [15:09] <mathias1> Yeah the server is going on a dedicated machine later, just wanted to try it out before ;p
#1582 [15:10] <Zaneo> ok
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#1584 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> mathias1: *nod*
#1585 [15:10] <Zaneo> too bad because u helped me very much
#1586 [15:10] <Zaneo> :)
#1587 [15:10] <VoxelHead> :-)
#1588 [15:11] <Zaneo> in a good way
#1589 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> Zaneo: I'm glad to have been of service
#1590 [15:11] <Zaneo> :)
#1591 [15:15] <mathias1> DopeGhoti: Wont work from another computer either
#1592 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> mathias1: is the server running anything else beside the server?
#1593 [15:16] <mathias1> Nothing else than windows, and this chatwindow
#1594 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> Is it running the latest version of java?
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#1596 [15:17] <mathias1> It should be, but any way to check version?
#1597 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> control panel -> Java
#1598 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> or, c:\program files\java\bin\java -version
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#1600 [15:23] <mathias1> 1.6.0_24-b07
#1601 [15:23] <Tejprullen> Hello there
#1602 [15:26] <Tejprullen> I got some problem with a client to minecraft, i can connect to servers without problems and when i write in the chat for example the server recognize it but the client wont see the message
#1603 [15:26] <mathias1> DopeGhoti: Ok I got it to work, deleted the map, got a disconnect.overflow and tired again and now all works fine
#1604 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> mathias1: yay!
#1605 [15:28] <mathias1> But.. now I have a new problem, I cant remove any blocks, if I take a block away, it pops right back up in the same spot again?
#1606 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> ??> mathias1 smp/opyourself
#1607 [15:28] <VoxelHead> mathias1: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#1608 [15:28] <mathias1> Some kind of config settings?
#1609 [15:28] <VoxelHead> mathias1: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#1610 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> Tejprullen: so when you try to chat, you don't see your message(s) appear in the chat log?
#1611 [15:29] <mathias1> Any reason why only OPs can do such things, they seem pretty "standard" a way to change that?
#1612 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> mathias1: that's only restricted in a roughtly 33x33 zone around the spawn area
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#1614 [15:29] <mathias1> Oh ok :)
#1615 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> mathias1: that's to prevent some griefer from turning the spawn zone into a magma lake for example (:
#1616 [15:30] <mathias1> Yeah thats seem handy ;p
#1617 [15:31] <mathias1> Any url or something that explains the server.properties?
#1618 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
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#1621 [15:34] <aetherian> it's pretty self-explanatory I thought...
#1622 [15:37] <Zaneo> bye DopeGhoti
#1623 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> ciao
#1624 [15:38] <Zaneo> I will try to solve the prob with my bro
#1625 [15:38] <Zaneo> happy helping to u then
#1626 [15:38] <Zaneo> XD
#1627 [15:38] <Zaneo> bye
#1628 [15:38] <Zaneo> ty for help
#1629 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1630 [15:39] <VoxelHead> cheeeeeeeeeeers
#1631 [15:39] <Zaneo> bye vox
#1632 [15:40] * VoxelHead waves
#1632 [15:40] <Zaneo> *waves back
#1633 [15:40] <Zaneo> *with a tear in my eye :(
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#1635 [15:40] * SkiingPenguins hugs VoxelHead
#1635 [15:40] <VoxelHead> ~rarr~
#1636 [15:41] <Zaneo> * crying a river of tears
#1637 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> careful, SkiingPenguins; once you get Vox going..
#1638 [15:42] <SkiingPenguins> :P
#1639 [15:42] <Zaneo> XD
#1640 [15:43] <Zaneo> *takes a dump on Vox face
#1641 [15:43] * VoxelHead dumps Zaneo back with a herring.
#1641 [15:44] <Zaneo> *touching my penis with u on my ming
#1642 [15:44] <Zaneo> mind*
#1643 [15:45] <victory65535> hot.
#1644 [15:45] <Zaneo> why did it get so quiet?
#1645 [15:45] <Kealper> >.>
#1646 [15:45] <Zaneo> XD
#1647 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> abject horror?
#1648 [15:45] <Zaneo> i guess
#1649 [15:46] <Zaneo> he just cant accept my strange love
#1650 [15:46] <Zaneo> involving dumps and touchings
#1651 [15:46] <Zaneo> XD
#1652 [15:50] <Zaneo> haha
#1653 [15:50] <Kealper> awesome....my fire prevention system test worked
#1654 [15:51] <Zaneo> *stroking my d..k at thought of VOX
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#1656 [15:51] <Kealper> ok, that's enough of that...keep it clean
#1657 [15:51] <Kealper> there are children in here :/
#1658 [15:51] <SkiingPenguins> like me
#1659 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> vox, activate awkwardness sensors
#1660 [15:52] * VoxelHead waves tricorder around a bit
#1660 [15:52] <VoxelHead> Awkwardness levels of 92 percent detected.
#1661 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> about that I thought.
#1662 [15:52] <Kealper> lol
#1663 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> s/that/what/
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#1665 [15:54] <Zaneo> XD
#1666 [15:54] <Zaneo> well it will get worse
#1667 [15:54] <Zaneo> cover in fear folks
#1668 [15:54] <SkiingPenguins> arroused teenagers coming into irc omfg -.-
#1669 [15:55] <Zaneo> *using my fingers in all kinds of ways at the thought of Vox Voxy Vexy Sexy
#1670 [15:56] <combatplayer> you speak sign language?
#1671 [15:56] <Zaneo> sign?
#1672 [15:57] <combatplayer> language
#1673 [15:57] <Zaneo> say what?
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#1675 [15:57] <combatplayer> I take that s ano
#1676 [15:57] <combatplayer> a*
#1677 [15:57] <combatplayer> wait
#1678 [15:57] <combatplayer> as a no*
#1679 [15:57] <VoxelHead> Z, stop. Just stop.
#1680 [15:58] <Deathconsuming> So my minecraft is saying not downloaded, how do I get the .minecraft folder?
#1681 [15:58] <Zaneo> OK
#1682 [15:58] <Kealper> Deathconsuming: you bought the game, right?
#1683 [15:58] <Deathconsuming> Not yet lol
#1684 [15:58] <combatplayer> well, then that's how
#1685 [15:58] <Zaneo> by sign language do u mean the one where u use ur hands to form words ?
#1686 [15:58] <combatplayer> yes
#1687 [15:59] <combatplayer> was meant to be a joke
#1688 [15:59] <Zaneo> ok
#1689 [15:59] <Zaneo> dont see the joke part of it thou
#1690 [15:59] <combatplayer> >using my fingers in all kinds of ways
#1691 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> combatplayer: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitle0t9r68ih
#1692 [16:00] <combatplayer> shh
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#1697 [16:08] <aetherian> sigh
#1698 [16:08] <aetherian> I wish we had fast internet
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#1702 [16:18] <Zaneo> *goes to McD to spy on VOX
#1703 [16:20] <Kealper> Zaneo: you realize Vox is a bot, right?
#1704 [16:21] <SkiingPenguins> *chuckle*
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#1708 [16:25] <Kealper> wow
#1709 [16:25] <Remanent> i modded the char.png that i downloaded from the profile page on minecraft .net, and then tried to upload the new picture, does it show a list or anything on the website? cause i tried to upload a new .png, and then click on "share this with others" and i get an error.
#1710 [16:25] <Kealper> a high E string on a guitar
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#1712 [16:25] <Kealper> Remanent: showing skins on the site is turned off right now while they get website stability issues worked out
#1713 [16:26] <Remanent> ah
#1714 [16:26] <Remanent> so i assume it's there, just can't see it.
#1715 [16:26] <Kealper> anywho...high E string on a guitar...has over 20lbs of tension o.o
#1716 [16:26] <Kealper> Remanent: yeah, it will show ingame just fine
#1717 [16:26] <Remanent> thanks =)
#1718 [16:32] <Kealper> i should make an irssi script that replaces ">_>" with the proper look of disapproval
#1719 [16:33] <CruelNoise> Kealper: and what would that be?
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#1721 [16:34] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#1722 [16:34] <Chr|s> great
#1723 [16:35] <Zaneo> ಠoಠ
#1724 [16:35] <Chr|s> installed linux and I can't copy and paste in the putty terminal
#1725 [16:35] <Kealper> right click
#1726 [16:35] <Chr|s> wont work
#1727 [16:35] <Kealper> O.o
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#1729 [16:37] <Chr|s> yeah
#1730 [16:37] <Chr|s> sucks
#1731 [16:38] <Kealper> woh that is trippy...i wonder if it'll even paste right in here
#1732 [16:38] <Kealper> Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
#1733 [16:38] <SkiingPenguins> o_O
#1734 [16:38] <Kealper> butterfly lol
#1735 [16:39] <Kealper> ツ <-- happy face
#1736 [16:40] <SkiingPenguins> aw i didnt see the happy face one
#1737 [16:40] <SkiingPenguins> just a block
#1738 [16:40] <Kealper> aww
#1739 [16:40] <combatplayer> past it into google or some other text field
#1740 [16:40] <Kealper> well it's like =) except at like an angle lol
#1741 [16:40] <combatplayer> paste*
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#1743 [16:41] <Kealper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emoticons
#1744 [16:41] <Kealper> (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ reminds me of Kirby
#1745 [16:42] <Kealper> although a monospace font doesn't really make that one look too good
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#1747 [16:42] <combatplayer> again, pasting it into any other text field solves any isue it migt have
#1748 [16:42] <Kealper> me?
#1749 [16:43] <combatplayer> also you, yes. lol
#1750 [16:43] <Kealper> i already pasted the link that i was getting them from
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#1752 [16:44] <SkiingPenguins> :( what you using? unicode? maybe my irc client cant see that stuff
#1753 [16:44] <Kealper> yeah, most of them are unicode :/
#1754 [16:45] <SkiingPenguins> i need a better irc client for windows.
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#1756 [16:45] <combatplayer> I use pidgin which can't show them either. though I don't really care
#1757 [16:45] <Kealper> using a linux irc client on windows ftw
#1758 [16:46] <xales> lol pidgin
#1759 [16:48] <Kealper> xales: >.>
#1760 [16:48] <Kealper> oh
#1761 [16:48] <xales> <.<
#1762 [16:48] <Kealper> wait, read wrong at first
#1763 [16:48] <xales> what did you think it said? :|
#1764 [16:49] <Kealper> somehow it looked like "use pidgin" when i glanced at it
#1765 [16:49] <Kealper> i have no idea...lol
#1766 [16:49] <combatplayer> it does what its supposed to.
#1767 [16:53] <xales> lol
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#1778 [17:25] <Lish> Soo...
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#1780 [17:25] <SkiingPenguins> hi
#1781 [17:26] <Lish> If Kealper is here, this is relevant to last night: I keep trying to load a linux vm and it's getting stuck at 95% when starting EVERY SINGLE EFFING TIME
#1782 [17:26] <Kealper> ._.
#1783 [17:26] <Kealper> i don't think that machine wants to be a minecraft server then :/
#1784 [17:26] <Lish> WAAAHHHHH
#1785 [17:26] <Kealper> it seems like it's fighing tooth-and-nail every step of the way
#1786 [17:27] <Lish> I'm going to try a couple of different distros, but I'm getting ready to rip my hair out
#1787 [17:27] <Lish> This is bs. It should work.
#1788 [17:27] <Lish> Something has to work.
#1789 [17:27] <SkiingPenguins> you trying to assign too much RAM?
#1790 [17:28] <Coll> how about not host a server on your fucking home computer
#1791 [17:28] <Coll> since they will almost always be shitty
#1792 [17:28] * SkiingPenguins is hosting a Red Eclipse (FPS GAME) server right now >.>
#1792 [17:28] <Coll> notice how I said "almost"
#1793 [17:29] <Kealper> Coll: it isn't a home server
#1794 [17:29] <Kealper> and yes, i realize, you must hate my mc server lol
#1795 [17:29] <Coll> no
#1796 [17:29] <Coll> actually yours is decent
#1797 [17:29] <Coll> I think it is us
#1798 [17:29] <Lish> ...
#1799 [17:30] <Kealper> tbh i think it's some connection between your end of the place and me, becuase everyone else has no lag :/
#1800 [17:30] <Lish> It's being hosted on a dedicated box at a fucking data center.
#1801 [17:30] <Lish> >:
#1802 [17:30] <Lish> Well, attempting to be hosted.
#1803 [17:30] <Lish> And I'm assigning the vm 1gb of memory
#1804 [17:30] <Kealper> Coll: out of curiosity though...could you traceroute my server's address? i tried tracerouting your ip to see if it was restarted that way one time and it was all sorts of fail
#1805 [17:31] <Coll> I dont know how to traceroute
#1806 [17:31] <Kealper> Coll: open cmd and type tracert mc.kealper.com
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#1808 [17:32] <Kealper> Lish: assign the vm 1.5gb of ram, so there is 512mb for the os, and 1024mb for the mc server
#1809 [17:32] <Coll> ok
#1810 [17:32] <Coll> did that
#1811 [17:32] <Coll> what now
#1812 [17:32] <Kealper> Coll: is it done?
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#1814 [17:33] <Coll> yes
#1815 [17:33] <Kealper> see on the left side, all the numbers like #1, #2, etc...what is the last number it showed?
#1816 [17:33] <Coll> 15
#1817 [17:34] <Kealper> meh, that isn't too bad then
#1818 [17:34] <Kealper> i have no idea why you two lag on my server then :/
#1819 [17:34] <Coll> should the ms be running in the triple digits though?
#1820 [17:34] <Kealper> depends, what are the pings?
#1821 [17:34] <Kealper> well, what's the highest one
#1822 [17:34] <Coll> 109s
#1823 [17:34] <Coll> uh
#1824 [17:34] <Lish> ok
#1825 [17:34] <Coll> 111
#1826 [17:34] <Coll> no my bad
#1827 [17:34] <Kealper> oh, that ain't bad at all then
#1828 [17:34] <Coll> 124
#1829 [17:35] <Lish> Well, I just tried Suse and it stuck at 95%
#1830 [17:35] <Lish> so
#1831 [17:35] <Lish> Something is wrong with VMWare, I think.
#1832 [17:35] <Lish> :/
#1833 [17:35] <Kealper> Lish: :/
#1834 [17:35] <Kealper> Coll: that's not bad, figuring how far away you are
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#1836 [17:36] <killking72> ok grey. my minecraft will randomly throw up a black screen and when i reload, the things i built will disappear
#1837 [17:36] <Kealper> killking72: has it ever worked properly?
#1838 [17:37] <killking72> yes
#1839 [17:37] <Kealper> did stuff starting acting strange recently, or has it started acting strange after a specific update?
#1840 [17:37] <killking72> it was fine after 1.3, just lately
#1841 [17:37] <killking72> it happens a lot when i go to a new area
#1842 [17:38] <Kealper> hmm..anything change at all with your computer? (did you apply any mods, did any software updates to antivirus software occur, any hardware changes?)
#1843 [17:38] <killking72> the only thing i have done is open ports and i made a SMP server
#1844 [17:39] <killking72> i havent messed with the minecraft client
#1845 [17:39] <Kealper> how much ram does your computer have, and does it do it when the server is not running?
#1846 [17:40] <killking72> i havent had the server up today and it started acting up when i made a "gargamel" save. 5GB of ram and an GTX240 with 1gb of ram
#1847 [17:40] <Kealper> hmm...is it crashing while playing that specific map? or any map?
#1848 [17:40] <killking72> any
#1849 [17:41] <killking72> just did it 3 times in under 5 minutes on gargamel
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#1851 [17:41] <Kealper> tried totally reinstalling minecraft? (deleting everything but your saves and screenshots folders from .minecraft)
#1852 [17:41] <killking72> and i just loaded my regular map that i always play and when in my house it went to a black screen
#1853 [17:41] <killking72> i'll try
#1854 [17:42] <killking72> so bin and resources?
#1855 [17:42] <Kealper> everything you see in there except the saves folder and the screenshots folder
#1856 [17:42] <killking72> and start up minecraft and have it download?
#1857 [17:42] <Kealper> yes
#1858 [17:43] <RazorPro> Hey guys Few things. Could anyone recommend a good texture pack to me that's really smooth and looks realistic to me. Does anyone know how to install this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=100267 (it would really help if you could send me the minecraft.bin). And, if anyone has any other mods that are good, please recommend them to me. Much appreciated.
#1859 [17:43] <killking72> yea dude just use the smooth lighing
#1860 [17:43] <killking72> lighting
#1861 [17:43] <killking72> turn that on and it looks like it's in HD
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#1863 [17:48] <killking72> it did it again
#1864 [17:48] <killking72> the very moment i got my house built
#1865 [17:48] <Kealper> hmm...are you playing in the browser or downloaded client?
#1866 [17:49] <killking72> downloaded
#1867 [17:49] <Kealper> play it in the browser and wait for that error to happen, when it does, don't close out of the game
#1868 [17:49] <Kealper> i'll tell you what to do so i can get some debug info to look at (hopefully)
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#1872 [18:06] <JJ5x5> I need help with making something
#1873 [18:06] <Kealper> hmm?
#1874 [18:06] <JJ5x5> i need a blueprint of a good house
#1875 [18:06] <JJ5x5> that i can make on minecraft
#1876 [18:06] <Kealper> have you tried searching the forums? this is more of a technical support channel :/
#1877 [18:07] <Fleskhjerta> oh well i have problems
#1878 [18:07] <Fleskhjerta> on it
#1879 [18:07] <Kealper> O.o
#1880 [18:07] <Fleskhjerta> i delete meta-inf try to put in a mod and i get an error
#1881 [18:07] <Kealper> the mod was probably for a different version of the game then, run your launcher
#1882 [18:08] <Fleskhjerta> and the fact i need a mod loader but the one i have to use
#1883 [18:08] <Kealper> when you are on the launcher, click Options
#1884 [18:08] <Fleskhjerta> only pics
#1885 [18:08] <Kealper> select the option to force download, hit ok, then login again
#1886 [18:08] <Fleskhjerta> and the mods were 13_01
#1887 [18:08] <Fleskhjerta> I did before i even played
#1888 [18:08] <RazorPro> So, can someone help me?
#1889 [18:08] <Kealper> and for help with mods of that sort, it'd be better to ask in #risucraft
#1890 [18:09] <Kealper> RazorPro: with?
#1891 [18:09] <Fleskhjerta> With what razor
#1892 [18:09] <RazorPro> Sorry
#1893 [18:09] <Fleskhjerta> with what
#1894 [18:09] <RazorPro> See this mod: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=100267
#1895 [18:09] <RazorPro> Could someone send me the .bina after the instructions.
#1896 [18:10] <Fleskhjerta> bina?
#1897 [18:10] <RazorPro> Everytime I try, it breaks the game
#1898 [18:10] <Fleskhjerta> you mean minecraft.bin
#1899 [18:10] <RazorPro> yes
#1900 [18:10] <Fleskhjerta> have you delted
#1901 [18:10] <Fleskhjerta> Meta-Inf
#1902 [18:10] <RazorPro> yes
#1903 [18:10] <Fleskhjerta> go to #risucraft
#1904 [18:10] <Fleskhjerta> for more
#1905 [18:10] <Kealper> uhm
#1906 [18:11] <Fleskhjerta> i cant find it
#1907 [18:11] <Kealper> yeah.... #risucraft then
#1908 [18:11] <Kealper> if you don't know what i mean by that, type /join #risucraft in here and press enter
#1909 [18:11] <RazorPro> Yeah, I'm in the channel.
#1910 [18:12] <Kealper> that is more of a general modding help channel
#1911 [18:12] <Kealper> this channel is usually just unmodded client/server help
#1912 [18:13] <RazorPro> Ah
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#1914 [18:16] <Chr|s> ok since im starting from scratch again
#1915 [18:16] <Chr|s> how do I add a user to ubuntu server? currently there is no users, just root
#1916 [18:17] <Kealper> isn't it just useradd username
#1917 [18:18] <Chr|s> I found it on howtogeek :D
#1918 [18:18] <Chr|s> sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser
#1919 [18:19] <Kealper> rawr....tired
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#1921 [18:29] <adamkex> has anyone worked with binvox and viewvox? does anybody know where i can 3d models for it?
#1922 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> That is a first
#1923 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> I have never before seen '3D' used as a verb.
#1924 [18:30] <adamkex> get 3d models*
#1925 [18:31] <adamkex> or find 3d models
#1926 [18:32] <adamkex> legally of course, i don't want to steal other people's work
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#1930 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> sorry, I've never seen or heard of either tool
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#1932 [18:47] <simon> Hey, guys. I'm running ubuntu and I can't get Minecraft to work. I've only been using Ubuntu for like 2 days, so I'm still figuring everything out. Can someone help me out, please?
#1933 [18:48] <AG_Scott> simon, have you installed sun java?
#1934 [18:48] <simon> I'm 99% sure java is working properly
#1935 [18:48] <simon> That's not true
#1936 [18:48] <simon> Maybe 75%
#1937 [18:48] <simon> I tried java -version and it says I'm on version 6.
#1938 [18:48] <AG_Scott> can you paste me what it says?
#1939 [18:48] <simon> But the main problem is actually that I can't really find the file to run
#1940 [18:49] <simon> Sure
#1941 [18:49] <simon> java version "1.6.0_20"
#1942 [18:49] <simon> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)
#1943 [18:49] <simon> OpenJDK Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)
#1944 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> simon: okay, run this command:
#1945 [18:49] <AG_Scott> Okay, that's not Sun Java.
#1946 [18:49] <AG_Scott> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-install-java-jre-and-java-plugin.html
#1947 [18:49] <AG_Scott> follow that
#1948 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> sudo apt-get install sun-0java6-fre && sudo update-alternatives --config java
#1949 [18:49] <AG_Scott> DopeGhoti, no.
#1950 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> sorry, typoes
#1951 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java
#1952 [18:49] <AG_Scott> You have to enable the partners repo
#1953 [18:49] <simon> Oy. I spent like all of yesterday working on the java situation.
#1954 [18:50] <simon> Ok
#1955 [18:50] <AG_Scott> Canonical took Sun Java out of the universe repo
#1956 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Oh joy
#1957 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> simon: okay, once you have enabled Partners, run the above command
#1958 [18:51] <simon> You're saying once I follow all of the steps in that link, right?
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#1960 [18:52] <AG_Scott> Yes, that'll work for you
#1961 [18:53] <AG_Scott> When you've done that run: sudo update-alternatives --config java
#1962 [18:54] * DopeGhoti points up (:
#1962 [18:55] <simon> I know this is kind of off topic, but is there a shortcut for terminal?
#1963 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> simon: alt-F2, type gnome-terminal, press Enter
#1964 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> or better yet, sudo apt-get install tilda, and use that
#1965 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> it's like a quake-console style terminal
#1966 [18:57] <simon> Ah I just figured it out lol thanks though
#1967 [18:57] <simon> I'm not sure what that means
#1968 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> (hence the name); I have it bound to left-alt-~
#1969 [18:58] <simon> I'm 17, so quake is kind of old for me. :P
#1970 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> so I press that key and *poof*, instant terminal; press it again and it goes away
#1971 [18:58] <simon> I just bounded it to left-alt + Keypad enter
#1972 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> whatever melts your butter
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#1974 [18:59] <simon> Ack java just gave me a ToS or something to say "ok" to, but I'm in Terminal. How do I hit okay?
#1975 [18:59] <SkiingPenguins> type ok
#1976 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> type 'yes' and press enter
#1977 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> or whatever it's prompting you to type
#1978 [19:00] <simon> It's giving me a GUI type of look here
#1979 [19:00] <simon> Let me print screen it
#1980 [19:01] <simon> http://i55.tinypic.com/2aeq99i.png
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#1982 [19:03] <VoxelHead> Bye zaneo.
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#1984 [19:06] <adamkex> DopeGhoti: ok thanks, it is supposed to convert 3d models into minecraft instructions
#1985 [19:06] <adamkex> DopeGhoti: so you can place the blocks easily
#1986 [19:06] <adamkex> as far as i have understood
#1987 [19:07] <Deathconsuming> Question, my friend has premium and he can''t join my server (it allows cracked versions to connect) he keeps timing out, anyway me and him can fix that?
#1988 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> Deathconsuming: we don't take kindly to pirates 'round these parts.
#1989 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> Run a legit server
#1990 [19:08] <simon> That sounds like a line from Firefly
#1991 [19:08] <simon> brb gonna restart
#1992 [19:08] <simon> 'cause something's acting funky.
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#1994 [19:13] <simon> Hey, so, according to Software Center, I have Sun Java, but, according to the terminal command ' java -version", I have OpenJDK
#1995 [19:14] <simon> DopeGhoti, you there?
#1996 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> No, I'm here
#1997 [19:15] <simon> Haha
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#1999 [19:15] <VoxelHead> The giant flesh-eating demon squid has escaped! security! protect your master! GIR! Defensive mode!
#2000 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> run this command: `sudo update-alternatives --config java`
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#2002 [19:15] <simon> Well, I did.
#2003 [19:15] <simon> And I got the following
#2004 [19:15] <simon> There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
#2005 [19:15] <simon> Nothing to configure.
#2006 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> okay, run this one then
#2007 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> `sudo apt-get --force --reinstall install sun-java6-jre`
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#2009 [19:16] <simon> --force is not understood
#2010 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> run it without that argument then
#2011 [19:17] <simon> Err can I message you with the error I got?
#2012 [19:17] <simon> It's a tad long
#2013 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> use pastebin please
#2014 [19:19] <simon> http://pastebin.com/6MudzmZe
#2015 [19:19] <simon> Forgot that existed. :P
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#2019 [19:20] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :O
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#2024 [19:23] <simon> I don't mean to be a nuisance, but are you there, DopeGhoti?
#2025 [19:24] <CMinecraft> hello, i have some questions, but i dont know if i can in this place?
#2026 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> I am
#2027 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> I'm just also at work, so may be slow
#2028 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> CMinecraft ask
#2029 [19:24] <VoxelHead> CMinecraft: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2030 [19:24] <VoxelHead> CMinecraft: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2031 [19:24] <simon> Okay sure.
#2032 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> simon: try this command: `sudo apt-get --reinstall install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre`
#2033 [19:27] <CMinecraft> is there a way to make mods applicable in only some worlds?
#2034 [19:27] <simon> DopeGhoti: http://pastebin.com/d7dvCnd1
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#2036 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> simon: add 'unixodbc' to the end of that command and try again
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#2038 [19:32] <simon> http://pastebin.com/nYsStqaX
#2039 [19:32] <CMinecraft> Im sorry, i had problems working this website, did i get an answer?
#2040 [19:32] <simon> Nope, sorry
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#2043 [19:33] <simon> Have to do something for 10 min
#2044 [19:33] <CMinecraft> Oops, i dont know how to use this much, sorry
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#2046 [19:37] <simon> Have to do something for more than 10 minutes now lol. I will look at the log, though, so... yup
#2047 [19:38] <CMinecraft> then can you help me or something? i really need to know. cant have mods for my videos
#2048 [19:38] <CMinecraft> but i want mods for my own play
#2049 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> simon: I am baffled as to why apt-get is not resolving the deps for you.. that's kind of its _job_
#2050 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> CMinecraft: sorry, we don't support mods here; you might ask in #risucraft
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#2053 [19:48] <simon> DopeGhoti: What's this business about -f?
#2054 [19:49] <VoxelHead> mmm Skyrider
#2055 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> simon: that should fix problems with partial installs. Let's go ahead and do a `sudo apt-get install -f`
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#2057 [19:50] <simon> Ah
#2058 [19:50] <simon> I did that
#2059 [19:50] <simon> And it gave me the same thing that I showed you in that picture earlier
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#2061 [19:51] <VoxelHead> i like them :o)
#2062 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> simon: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade`
#2063 [19:52] <simon> DopeGhoti: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
#2064 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> simon: sounds like you have another apt-get running on the system..
#2065 [19:53] <simon> Well, yeah, it's the java configuration.
#2066 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> that's still going?
#2067 [19:53] <simon> I mean I closed out of the terminal, but all signs appear to say yes
#2068 [19:53] <simon> Because I can't click okay and I can't type anything.
#2069 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> simon: pastebin the output of `sudo pstree -pa` please
#2070 [19:53] <VoxelHead> mmm pulec
#2071 [19:54] <simon> That's a neat trick
#2072 [19:54] <simon> DopeGhoti: http://pastebin.com/sYf557pH
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#2074 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> simon: sudo for pid in 2668 2650 2644 2609 2587; do kill -TERM $pid; done
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#2076 [19:55] <simon> Wait, you want me to type that all in?
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#2078 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> simon: or copy and paste, yes
#2079 [19:58] <simon> Uh ok
#2080 [19:58] <simon> syntax error near unexpected token `do'
#2081 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#2082 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> simon: sudo "for pid in 2668 2650 2644 2609 2587; do kill -TERM $pid; done"
#2083 [19:59] <simon> Oh, wow I just understood what I put it. I didn't know you could put in for loops as commands
#2084 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> indeed you can (:
#2085 [19:59] <simon> Sick narsty
#2086 [19:59] <simon> However
#2087 [19:59] <simon> sudo: for pid in 2668 2650 2644 2609 2587; do kill -TERM ; done: command not found
#2088 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> what.
#2089 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> okaaay
#2090 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> sudo -s
#2091 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> you will get a root prompts
#2092 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> then: for pid in 2668 2650 2644 2609 2587; do kill -TERM ; done
#2093 [20:01] <simon> ok
#2094 [20:01] <simon> http://pastebin.com/s7piFMMh
#2095 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> there was supposed to be a "$pid" after "-TERM "
#2096 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> my bad
#2097 [20:02] <RazorPro> Does anyone know any good text packs for 1.26
#2098 [20:02] <RazorPro> ?
#2099 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> just up-arrow and fix
#2100 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> RazorPro: ..1.26?
#2101 [20:03] <simon> Alright it didn't return anything
#2102 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> perfect
#2103 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> now give me the results of `pstree -pa` again
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#2105 [20:03] <RazorPro> dopeghoti 1.2.6 (version
#2106 [20:03] <xales> RazorPro: Why are you playing 1.2.6?
#2107 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> RazorPro: v1.2.6 of what?
#2108 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> simon: ProTip: Linux not saying anything is generally a Good Thing
#2109 [20:04] <RazorPro> Minecraft version
#2110 [20:04] <RazorPro> doepeghoti
#2111 [20:04] <simon> Huh, that's a new one
#2112 [20:04] <xales> RazorPro: Why are you not playing the latest version?
#2113 [20:04] <simon> Okay, what should I do now, then?
#2114 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> simon: now give me the results of `pstree -pa` again
#2115 [20:04] <RazorPro> It crashes on my computer.
#2116 [20:04] <simon> should I cd /?
#2117 [20:04] <simon> Or keep in root?
#2118 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> simon: not needed
#2119 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> pstree is a process list; not a file list
#2120 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> that's were I got those numbers for the kill loop
#2121 [20:05] <xales> RazorPro: Is that really why? Or are you playing a pirated version?
#2122 [20:05] <simon> Oh I see that makes a lot of sense.
#2123 [20:05] <simon> One of these days I'm gonna figure out this whole "linux" thing lol
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#2125 [20:05] <xales> Of course
#2126 [20:05] <xales> <_<
#2127 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> simon: the fact that you're running it is a good start (:
#2128 [20:06] <simon> http://pastebin.com/wVTAMhLq
#2129 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> xales: I am DopeGhoti's lack of surprise.
#2130 [20:06] <xales> Hi there
#2131 [20:06] <xales> Nice to meet you :D
#2132 [20:06] <xales> ._.
#2133 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> simon: okay, now, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install sun-java6-{jre,bin}
#2134 [20:06] <simon> lol the RazorPro thing is really funny.
#2135 [20:06] <simon> Alright
#2136 [20:07] * VoxelHead is away: yo mamma
#2136 [20:07] <simon> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
#2137 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> ( && to the shell is saying "If the last command worked, then do this )
#2138 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> run that command. dpkg -configure -a
#2139 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> er, --configure
#2140 [20:07] <simon> Alright
#2141 [20:07] <simon> By the way, what do the dashes signify?
#2142 [20:08] <simon> DopeGhoti: http://pastebin.com/ZW66fPkF
#2143 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> okay, good
#2144 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> now apt-get install sun-java6-{jre,bin}
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#2146 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> the dashes are arguments, or 'switches' for the commands. for example, the -l switch for ls changes the output (compare `ls` with `ls -l`)
#2147 [20:11] <simon> Ok, I think we should really handle this configuration situation. It gives me the ToS-style menu once again
#2148 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> if the switch is more tha one letter, usually it's denoted by two dashes, as in '--configure'
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#2150 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> the reason for that is, with the short switches, you can specify a lot at once (`ls -l -a -h` is the same as `ls -lah`), so you need too dashes so that the shell knows you mean '--configure' and not '-c -o -n -f -i -g -u -r -e'.
#2151 [20:13] <simon> Ah, I got you.
#2152 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> okay, now
#2153 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> when you say it gives you a ToS-style menu
#2154 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> what exactly do you mean?
#2155 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> pastebin that, actually
#2156 [20:14] <simon> I actually can't
#2157 [20:14] <simon> The closest I can get is to send you a picture.
#2158 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> that'll work
#2159 [20:15] <simon> Just got "werba technology" as a captcha
#2160 [20:15] <simon> That would be a great company name
#2161 [20:15] <simon> Or band name...
#2162 [20:15] * simon scribbles
#2162 [20:15] <simon> Anyways
#2163 [20:15] <simon> http://i51.tinypic.com/s4tbvc.png
#2164 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> okaydoke. Press 'tab', and OK should highlight. then press Enter.
#2165 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> (also, props for using xchat, probably in the top four of IRC clients)
#2166 [20:18] <simon> Haha thanks. I kind of clicked a completely random one to be honest
#2167 [20:18] <simon> But yeah I really like it
#2168 [20:18] <simon> What's your favorite?
#2169 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> irssi
#2170 [20:20] <simon> So I don't think it's telling me to do anything
#2171 [20:20] <simon> But it just gave me a long thing
#2172 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> could you be more.. specific?
#2173 [20:20] <simon> I can be exactly speific
#2174 [20:20] <simon> specific
#2175 [20:20] <simon> Let me pastebin it
#2176 [20:20] <simon> Yes, I got out of the menu (thank you)
#2177 [20:21] <simon> http://pastebin.com/K8ua3Wwi
#2178 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> okay! looks like you're set!
#2179 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> use `java -version` to confirm you're using the Standard JRE rather than OpenJDK
#2180 [20:23] <simon> Unfortunately, still using OpenJDK
#2181 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> update-alternatives --config java
#2182 [20:24] <simon> http://pastebin.com/xP2C4taq
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#2184 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> press two, hit Enter.
#2185 [20:24] <simon> update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java to provide /usr/bin/java (java) in manual mode.
#2186 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#2187 [20:25] <simon> Who's the jerk who made copy "control shift c" instead of just "control c" in Terminal?
#2188 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> simon: ^C is SIGTERM
#2189 [20:25] <simon> YES! USING JAVA!!!
#2190 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> To copy, just select the text
#2191 [20:25] <simon> What's a SIGTERM?
#2192 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> it's copied automagically
#2193 [20:25] <simon> No way!
#2194 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> it's a signal to terminate a program
#2195 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> and.. way.
#2196 [20:25] <simon> Err it didn't work
#2197 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> middle-click to paste.
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#2199 [20:28] <simon> I did just change the copy and past to ctrl v and ctrl c, though
#2200 [20:28] <simon> Hoping I didn't screw something up
#2201 [20:28] * DopeGhoti closes 15 pastebin tabs in elinks
#2201 [20:29] <simon> lol sorry. :P
#2202 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> not just you (:
#2203 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> helping others in other places too
#2204 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> ..maybe I should do some work at work today (:
#2205 [20:29] <simon> What a mensch
#2206 [20:30] <simon> loool
#2207 [20:30] <simon> Where do you work?
#2208 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> A hosting and developemnt company in Phoenix
#2209 [20:31] <simon> So now that I'm using Java, how do I run minecraft. :P
#2210 [20:32] <simon> Whoops question mark
#2211 [20:32] <oldtopman> Double ckick on the app.
#2212 [20:32] <simon> Err I'm running ubuntu, so I want to say I don't have an app.
#2213 [20:32] <simon> Or at the very least I don't know where it is.
#2214 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> right-click the .jar, pick 'Run with Sun JRE'
#2215 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> !client
#2216 [20:32] <oldtopman> Download the jar from the ste
#2217 [20:32] <simon> Yeah I got the jre
#2218 [20:32] <simon> I mean
#2219 [20:32] <simon> jar
#2220 [20:32] <oldtopman> ??>simon download
#2221 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> right-click it
#2222 [20:33] <simon> I forgot to run it through the jre
#2223 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> 'Open with Sun JRE'
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#2225 [20:33] <simon> Err I only have java runtime
#2226 [20:33] <simon> Not JRE
#2227 [20:33] <simon> Should I search for JRE?
#2228 [20:33] <simon> Oh I'm an idiot
#2229 [20:34] <oldtopman> JRE=JavaRuntimeEnvironemnt
#2230 [20:34] <simon> JRE is Java Runtime environment
#2231 [20:34] <simon> lol
#2232 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#2233 [20:34] <simon> Now it says The file '/home/simon/Downloads/minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable. If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run. For more details, read about the executable bit."
#2234 [20:35] <oldtopman> simon: run this in the command line: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"
#2235 [20:35] <oldtopman> simon: What is the output?
#2236 [20:36] <simon> It says it's already at the newest version
#2237 [20:36] <simon> We did this for like two hours lol
#2238 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: you're.. kine of late to the party
#2239 [20:37] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: my bad.
#2240 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> simon: run this command: `chmod u+x ~simon/Downloads/minecraft.jar`
#2241 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: no worries (:
#2242 [20:37] <oldtopman> There was a good guide on this, but...
#2243 [20:37] <oldtopman> I CANT FIND IT!!!
#2244 [20:37] <simon> TRYING TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO RETURN
#2245 [20:38] <simon> BUT ALSO FEELING CRUSHED BECAUSE TERMINAL DOESN'T LOVE ME ENOUGH TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I SENT IT A COMMAND
#2246 [20:38] <simon> Sorry, mommy issues
#2247 [20:38] <simon> lol jk
#2248 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> simon: Linux assumes you know what you're doing. It will quietly do what you tell it to, and only complain if something goes wrong (:
#2249 [20:38] <simon> Haha okay what nw?
#2250 [20:38] <oldtopman> Try it again.
#2251 [20:39] <simon> WINNER!!!
#2252 [20:39] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: What is the u option you had him do?
#2253 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: only sets executable for the user (owner) of the files
#2254 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: is that what you were looking for?
#2255 [20:40] <simon> Haha, DopeGhoti I love you
#2256 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8.
#2257 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2258 [20:41] <simon> lol how about I make a video of the guitar lick I made up while we were doing this?
#2259 [20:41] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: I hesitated having him change the perms as I did not have to change mine.
#2260 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> I had the same issue; Java will (rightly!) not execute a .jar not marked as executable
#2261 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> Just as bash will not run a script not marked as executable
#2262 [20:42] <simon> Hey, how do I learn about all of this stuff?
#2263 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> experience
#2264 [20:42] <oldtopman> But the javas that Mojang releases are already marked as executable
#2265 [20:42] * DopeGhoti isn't kidding- the best way is to just mess around with the OS and learn by doing
#2265 [20:42] <simon> I feel like there's somewhere where I should start, though.
#2266 [20:42] <simon> Like don't know anything about syntax
#2267 [20:42] <simon> And I wanna say it's just because I only started dabbling like 2 days ago, but still
#2268 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> simon: look for some Bash scripting tutorials
#2269 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> (bash is the name of the shell in which we've been plinking commands this whole time)
#2270 [20:43] <oldtopman> simon: I got good at linux by just using different distros.
#2271 [20:43] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: One of m friends likes ksh
#2272 [20:44] <aetherian> yay debian :)
#2273 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> some of my cow-orkers like zsh, but I'm a bash/sh guy
#2274 [20:44] <simon> Oh do any of you run a non-GUI OS?
#2275 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> well, I do most of my work in terminals, does that count?
#2276 [20:44] <simon> lol I'm not sure
#2277 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> 80-90% of the time, I'm using terminals and one GUI web browser
#2278 [20:45] <aetherian> pfft
#2279 [20:45] <aetherian> gui web broswer
#2280 [20:45] <simon> I heard there are a lot of distros of linux still going around that don't even have a GUI
#2281 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> what? I like Chrome.
#2282 [20:45] <aetherian> lynx :)
#2283 [20:45] <aetherian> (or some variation there-of)
#2284 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> simon: not that they don't have a GUI, but they don't install one by default
#2285 [20:45] <simon> Oh, that makes sense.
#2286 [20:45] <simon> Oh, I have an embarassing question regarding Flash
#2287 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> the option is always there. That's the great thing about Linux: options
#2288 [20:46] <simon> I managed to actually get flash onto my computer, which took me roughly 3 hours
#2289 [20:46] <simon> But now I have to click to play flash every time it shows up, which is way more than I thought it would be.
#2290 [20:47] <aetherian> le gasp, dope, why not use an open-source browser?
#2291 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: s/chrome/chromium/
#2292 [20:47] <aetherian> oh phew
#2293 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> (and elinks, but still)
#2294 [20:48] <aetherian> I'll use "links" occasionally when I only have a terminal.
#2295 [20:50] <simon> Oh, wow, Chromium is working waaay better than Firefox.
#2296 [20:50] <simon> Thank God.
#2297 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> simon: sounds like you installed the opensource flash. I don't use flash much, but there might be some options for 'click-to-play' that you can set
#2298 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> <3 Chromium
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#2300 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> sadly, "better than firefox" has been an increasingly lower bar lately
#2301 [20:50] <simon> Haha
#2302 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> though I'd take Fx over IE in a new york minute
#2303 [20:51] <simon> Well right now all I care about is that I have to press a play button to merely load the YouTube video box on Firefox and not on Chromium
#2304 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> heh
#2305 [20:51] <simon> But hey, on Windows, I agree that Chrome is WAY better than Firefox.
#2306 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> Chromium used HTML5, not Flash (:
#2307 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> uses, even
#2308 [20:51] <aetherian> haha
#2309 [20:51] <simon> Ooh
#2310 [20:51] <simon> That makes sense.
#2311 [20:53] <simon> Wow, Minecraft or learn C?
#2312 [20:53] <aetherian> eugh
#2313 [20:54] <simon> Hating on C
#2314 [20:54] <simon> ?
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#2316 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> Learn boolean logic. With redstone!
#2317 [20:55] <aetherian> no
#2318 [20:55] <aetherian> hating on a program
#2319 [20:55] <aetherian> we need an asm compiler in minecraft...
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#2321 [20:56] <Route73096> Unable to go fullscreen, reply if you can help
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#2323 [20:56] <simon> I really want to build a mini-computer in Minecraft.
#2324 [20:56] <simon> Unfortunately, I don't know very much about how real computers work
#2325 [20:57] <aetherian> that could be a problem
#2326 [20:57] <mib_h35p9h> anyone want to help me with my private server ive been trying to create
#2327 [20:57] <aetherian> not I, particularly
#2328 [20:58] <mib_h35p9h> ok............
#2329 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#2330 [20:58] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2331 [20:58] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2332 [20:59] <Chr|s> hrmm what does this mean when I go to upload a file to my server Failed to write to /home/digi-geek/minecraft/minecraft_server.jar : Bad file descriptor. lol
#2333 [21:00] <mib_h35p9h> Ok ive created the server and my friends have connected to my ip in LogMeIn Hamachie and i gave them the ip to the server but they still cant connect
#2334 [21:02] <dopeghoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2335 [21:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internat. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2336 [21:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
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#2338 [21:05] <mib_h35p9h> im gona sound dumb but for the different solution such as port forwarding or VPN how would i do that
#2339 [21:06] <dopeghoti> http://www.portforward.com has guides
#2340 [21:07] <Tatsuhirou> could someone help me in the use of pressure plates?
#2341 [21:08] <aetherian> sigh
#2342 [21:08] <aetherian> put it next to a door
#2343 [21:08] <aetherian> and it can open the door by you standing on it
#2344 [21:08] <aetherian> or it can power redstone
#2345 [21:09] <Tatsuhirou> when i use it on one side of my set of double doors, the door is open by default
#2346 [21:09] <Tatsuhirou> activating the plate closes it
#2347 [21:10] <aetherian> ehh
#2348 [21:10] <aetherian> I know a potential fix
#2349 [21:10] <aetherian> put a redstone torch near it. maybe, say, underneath it
#2350 [21:14] <Tatsuhirou> it causes the plate to close the door when it is open, but not actually open it
#2351 [21:15] <aetherian> haha
#2352 [21:15] <Tatsuhirou> its a nice substitute though, so thank you
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#2355 [21:18] <aetherian> heya vial
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#2357 [21:19] <Cial> "/
#2358 [21:19] <Cial> :/
#2359 [21:20] <aetherian> "/ looks like a variation of o/ ...
#2360 [21:22] <Cial> it was me typing :/ wrong
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#2362 [21:29] <Route73096> Everytime i try to go into fullscreen mode on minecraft client, minecraft crashes, and makes a error report on my desktop screen
#2363 [21:29] <aetherian> pastebin the error report, please
#2364 [21:31] <Route73096> #
#2365 [21:31] <Route73096> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#2366 [21:31] <Route73096> #
#2367 [21:31] <Route73096> # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000004f84ee1f, pid=2000, tid=2744
#2368 [21:31] <Route73096> #
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#2370 [21:32] <aetherian> ...
#2371 [21:32] <aetherian> pastebin...
#2372 [21:33] <simon> pastebin.com
#2373 [21:33] <Route73096> im a noob at this
#2374 [21:33] <Route73096> hold on
#2375 [21:33] <aetherian> how old is your computer, anyway
#2376 [21:34] <simon> If I want to run a server from Ubuntu, is there a way to do it outside of the Terminal?
#2377 [21:34] <aetherian> what do you mean?
#2378 [21:34] <simon> Well I want to run a server.
#2379 [21:35] <simon> And, on Windows, it has its own client, which is also a text-based console, but it's basically all in a java program
#2380 [21:35] <aetherian> mmhmm...?
#2381 [21:35] <simon> I've run a server on Ubuntu through the Terminal, but I'm wondering if I can run it through its own client.
#2382 [21:36] <aetherian> you mean in a gui?
#2383 [21:36] <simon> Yeah.
#2384 [21:36] <Route73096> spam detection isnt letting me through..
#2385 [21:36] <aetherian> lesee
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#2387 [21:37] <simon> I also don't know how to affect anything (change server preferences and all of that), but first thing's first, I suppose
#2388 [21:37] <aetherian> hang on a sec...
#2389 [21:37] <simon> Alright
#2390 [21:37] <aetherian> you can
#2391 [21:37] <aetherian> what are you launching it with... "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui" right?
#2392 [21:38] <aetherian> if so, just delete the "nogui" part
#2393 [21:38] <simon> Alright I'll try that
#2394 [21:39] <simon> Lovely!
#2395 [21:39] <aetherian> hey uh
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#2397 [21:39] <Route73096> http://pastebin.com/1tX8nACB
#2398 [21:39] <Route73096> got it
#2399 [21:40] <aetherian> what's a recommended upload speed for a 3-5 person minecraft server?
#2400 [21:41] <Chr|s> 100mbps
#2401 [21:41] <aetherian> .-.
#2402 [21:41] <aetherian> uh, Route73096, why are you running it in a vm?
#2403 [21:41] <aetherian> ono wait
#2404 [21:42] <Chr|s> thats what I am doing...or tryign to do
#2405 [21:42] <aetherian> augh
#2406 [21:43] <aetherian> Route73096: tell me, how old is that computer
#2407 [21:43] <aetherian> ie why on earth does it have once cpu.
#2408 [21:43] <aetherian> s/once/one
#2409 [21:44] <Route73096> oh sorry, uh
#2410 [21:46] <Route73096> my laptops a single-core
#2411 [21:46] <Route73096> emachines E525 if it matters
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#2413 [21:46] <simon> Ok so now that I've got the server running, how do I change its properties etc?
#2414 [21:48] <Chr|s> server.properties file
#2415 [21:48] <Route73096> computers...about a year old
#2416 [21:48] <Chr|s> running a server off a laptop isn't recommended unless it is beefy
#2417 [21:49] <simon> I don't have a server.properties file that I can find.
#2418 [21:49] <simon> There's just the minecraft_server.jar
#2419 [21:49] <Tatsuhirou> i believe it creates that file after you first start the server
#2420 [21:50] <simon> I did.
#2421 [21:50] <Tatsuhirou> are you running windows?
#2422 [21:50] <simon> Ubuntu
#2423 [21:51] <TaiJ> Hi, could someone help me with a problem with a Bukkit mod?
#2424 [21:51] <simon> Nevermind, it worked when I tried it the second time lol
#2425 [21:51] <Tatsuhirou> oh
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#2427 [21:52] <Tatsuhirou> for anyone whos interested it appears you need to have a redstone inverter to have a set of double doors operating on pressure plates
#2428 [21:54] <TaiJ> Anybody familiar with Bukkit, or Runecraft?
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#2430 [21:55] <c0br42> what page do i purchase minecraft on?
#2431 [21:55] <c0br42> whats the link please
#2432 [21:55] <Route73096> http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
#2433 [21:56] <simon> TaiJ: I'm new here, but I'm pretty sure this channel doesn't deal with mods. I think we also direct you to #risucraft. :)
#2434 [21:56] <TaiJ> That's also perfectly acceptable, I just clicked the one that said help. ^^'\ Thanks for the link!
#2435 [21:57] <simon> np
#2436 [21:58] <relsqui> simon: yup and yup. :)
#2437 [21:59] <TaiJ> ...And luckily I checked something before I asked. Figured it out. Turns out Minecraft doesn't like trying to run two copies of a mod at once... Derp.
#2438 [22:00] <TaiJ> (Yeah, I read their rules and decided to do a doublecheck just to cover my tail. ^^'\)
#2439 [22:00] <simon> Haha
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#2441 [22:01] <rationalOgre> Greetings. Anyone have good info on how to revive a dead SMP map after a computer crash?
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#2443 [22:01] <rationalOgre> Getting all kinds of fun Null Pointer Exceptions
#2444 [22:02] <rationalOgre> Tried swapping index.dat_old overtop index.dat but no dice
#2445 [22:02] <simon> rationalOgre: Do you mean the map deleted itself? Because I had a situation like that earlier today
#2446 [22:02] <rationalOgre> simon: No, the map is still there as far as I know. It just is inaccessable.
#2447 [22:03] <rationalOgre> I try to boot the server and it throws a slew of errors
#2448 [22:03] <simon> Oh, ok. My single player map kinda disappeared on me after a computer crash. I'm scared to try it on Windows again.
#2449 [22:03] <rationalOgre> And wont allow me to log in.
#2450 [22:03] <simon> I can't help you, sorry. :(
#2451 [22:03] <rationalOgre> Sokay.
#2452 [22:06] <simon> Ok I can't get my server to boot off of the world that I want it to.
#2453 [22:06] <Kealper> :o
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#2455 [22:07] <c0br42> whats an epic server i can join with skyscrapers n shit?
#2456 [22:07] <Kealper> http://mcserverlist.net
#2457 [22:07] <simon> Oh that's because I was using the wrong server file lol
#2458 [22:07] <c0br42> r any of those epic?
#2459 [22:08] <c0br42> or 2 the max?
#2460 [22:08] <simon> Good to know that I can run a bunch of servers, though. :P
#2461 [22:08] <Kealper> i don't know, i run my own server so i have never checked those out
#2462 [22:08] <simon> lmao c0br42 I love you
#2463 [22:08] <c0br42> :D
#2464 [22:08] <c0br42> simon: r u == canado on hackthissite? XD
#2465 [22:09] <simon> No?
#2466 [22:09] <simon> My name's not actually simon, if that helps
#2467 [22:09] <Kealper> lol
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#2469 [22:09] <simon> Actually, how do I change my nick on this thing?
#2470 [22:09] <simon> /nick isn't doing anything
#2471 [22:09] <Kealper> /nick newnick
#2472 [22:10] <simon> I tried that. Didn't change anything
#2473 [22:10] <aetherian> this can't bode well...
#2474 [22:10] <Kealper> leave #minecraft, change nick, rejoin #minecraft
#2475 [22:10] <Kealper> it's a mode on that channel that prevents it
#2476 [22:10] <gkx> What's so special about #minecraft
#2477 [22:10] <gkx> Ah
#2478 [22:10] <Kealper> aetherian: wut?
#2479 [22:10] <c0br42> lol brb
#2480 [22:11] <aetherian> Kealper: when a command doesn't work.
#2481 [22:11] <aetherian> but... why is #minecraft set so people can't change nicks on it?
#2482 [22:11] <Kealper> it's not
#2483 [22:11] <Kealper> that is just a side effect of people who are not registered when a channel has +M
#2484 [22:12] <gkx> Well shit, it's still not working.
#2485 [22:12] <gkx> Not /nick now lol
#2486 [22:12] <gkx> Sorry
#2487 [22:12] <Kealper> figured
#2488 [22:12] <gkx> I meant the server's still putting me in the wrong world.
#2489 [22:12] <Kealper> make sure the server is stopped before changing the world
#2490 [22:12] <gkx> I did.
#2491 [22:13] <Kealper> and also make sure that the map name in server.properties matches the world's folder name that you want it to use
#2492 [22:13] <gkx> Yup it is
#2493 [22:13] <gkx> It is, in fact, playing world when I want it to be playing Leve
#2494 [22:14] <Kealper> and it says Leve inside server.properties?
#2495 [22:14] <Kealper> (and you saved the file?)
#2496 [22:14] <gkx> Yes
#2497 [22:15] <gkx> Any other ideas?
#2498 [22:15] <Kealper> idk...mine works fine using a different name
#2499 [22:15] <gkx> Umm.
#2500 [22:15] <gkx> Rather hmm
#2501 [22:15] <Kealper> unless that map is corrupt and unreadable, so it's defaulting to world
#2502 [22:15] <xales> Kealper!
#2503 [22:15] <Kealper> xales!
#2504 [22:15] <xales> :O
#2505 [22:15] <Kealper> mass scrolling on your server is smexy
#2506 [22:15] <Kealper> it's so fast
#2507 [22:15] <gkx> I doubt it. I got the map from another computer on which it was working fine. It also throws no errors or exceptions. I'll start the server process over
#2508 [22:16] <xales> you mean scrolling lagged on the other one? :O
#2509 [22:16] <Kealper> if i just held page up, you could tell that it was a remote connection...this one is just like i've got an irssi running in a vm lol
#2510 [22:17] <xales> it's supposed to be like that :P
#2511 [22:17] <Kealper> is this thing on like a 100mbit dedicated line? because my brother's server is a 100mbit shared line :/
#2512 [22:17] <xales> yes
#2513 [22:17] <xales> :D
#2514 [22:17] <Kealper> smexy
#2515 [22:18] <Kealper> i need like a 20mb file to download so i can see the download speeds lol
#2516 [22:18] <xales> average package download speed is 11MB/s
#2517 [22:18] <xales> >:D
#2518 [22:18] <Kealper> holy crap
#2519 [22:18] <relsqui> Kealper: -rw-r--r-- 1 relsqui relsqui 1199879232 2011-02-23 18:25 sn4-6.zip
#2520 [22:18] <relsqui> ^you can try that one if you like :P
#2521 [22:18] <relsqui> and just cancel whenever you're done
#2522 [22:19] <Kealper> wut
#2523 [22:19] <xales> Kealper
#2524 [22:19] <xales> kernel26-2.6.37.4-1-x86_64 34.9M 10.8M/s 00:00:03
#2525 [22:19] <relsqui> if you wanted a giant file to download
#2526 [22:19] <relsqui> http://peeron.chiliahedron.com/sn4-6.zip
#2527 [22:19] <Kealper> i meant a file on xales' server so i can download it on my computer, to see the speeds i get from it lol
#2528 [22:19] <relsqui> (it's a bunch of video files for my ASL class)
#2529 [22:19] <relsqui> oh.
#2530 [22:19] <relsqui> that makes more sense.
#2531 [22:19] <relsqui> this is what I get for only reading like half a page of scrollback.
#2532 [22:19] <Kealper> but i will take you up on that offer..i wanna see for myself how epic this is
#2533 [22:20] <Kealper> how big is said file? lol
#2534 [22:20] <gkx> I restarted the entire process and it worked. Why? I don't know, but I'm not complaining. Thanks for the help, though
#2535 [22:21] <relsqui> a couple of gigs I think
#2536 [22:21] <Kealper> that was pretty quick, seemed to level off at around 5MB/s
#2537 [22:21] <relsqui> it's a 30ish track DVD rip
#2538 [22:21] <Kealper> o.o
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#2540 [22:21] <gkx> Umm... has Minecraf always had music?
#2541 [22:22] <Kealper> yes? lol
#2542 [22:22] <gkx> Oh lol it's because I always turned it down on my other computer.
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#2547 [22:34] <unfitg0d0fwar> anyone here?
#2548 [22:35] <xales> nope
#2549 [22:35] <unfitg0d0fwar> i need help with minecrafter
#2550 [22:35] <unfitg0d0fwar> or i need help with a similar way of combineing texture packs
#2551 [22:35] <xales> unfortunately, we can't really help with any third party software
#2552 [22:36] <unfitg0d0fwar> then do you have any suggestions of how i can combine texture packs?
#2553 [22:36] <xales> using an image editor?
#2554 [22:36] <unfitg0d0fwar> well all i have is paint
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#2556 [22:36] <unfitg0d0fwar> would that still work?
#2557 [22:37] <xales> try with the GIMP
#2558 [22:37] <xales> it's free
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#2560 [22:37] <unfitg0d0fwar> then how do you do it with gimp
#2561 [22:38] <unfitg0d0fwar> do i just copy paste whatever i want to a texture pack?
#2562 [22:38] <Kealper> paint would work....but....it's not the best choice since it can't do transparency
#2563 [22:39] <unfitg0d0fwar> ok thank you for the help
#2564 [22:40] <xales> What on earth is "irc2go" derp
#2565 [22:44] <Deathconsuming> How would I go about playing Survival?
#2566 [22:44] <xales> Buy it, download it, run it
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#2568 [22:46] <Tatsuhirou> is there anything specific about survival that youre curious about?
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#2570 [22:50] <Tatsuhirou> what would be an efficient model for an underground tree farm?
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#2574 [23:03] <THOTpolice> has anyone else had several game days in a row of fog?
#2575 [23:03] <xales> it's a setting
#2576 [23:03] <xales> "view distance" in Options->Graphic options
#2577 [23:04] <THOTpolice> humm thanks that worked
#2578 [23:04] <THOTpolice> was starting to get annoying
#2579 [23:06] <mike_> THOTpolice, you can also toggle it with the F key
#2580 [23:06] <mike_> I inadvertently press it often :-/
#2581 [23:09] <THOTpolice> that's probably how it happened
#2582 [23:10] <THOTpolice> I blame it on creeper panic
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#2585 [23:12] <Deathconsuming> Is it possible to add custom recipes and what not?
#2586 [23:13] <xales> With mods, yes
#2587 [23:13] <xales> Look on the forum
#2588 [23:15] <Deathconsuming> Kay
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#2591 [23:19] <idresponse> okay... i just installed windows xp, i updated it, i installed a fresh copy of java, and i downloaded a fresh minecraft.exe and run it, tell it to force update, it runs the updates, finishes, and the program closes...
#2592 [23:19] <idresponse> no errors, nothing... just... DENIED!
#2593 [23:19] <xales> ??> idresponse win/reinst
#2594 [23:19] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2595 [23:19] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2596 [23:20] <idresponse> yeah i tried that.
#2597 [23:20] <idresponse> more than once
#2598 [23:21] <idresponse> just tried again.
#2599 [23:21] <idresponse> i even tried reinstalling java, didn't help
#2600 [23:21] <xales> ??> idresponse win/dxdiag
#2601 [23:21] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2602 [23:21] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2603 [23:22] <idresponse> i really hope it's not because i have an old ati videocard in here...
#2604 [23:23] <idresponse> http://pastebin.com/jr6FAv1k
#2605 [23:23] <idresponse> and thanks voxel
#2606 [23:24] <xales> idresponse: VoxelHead is a bot
#2607 [23:24] <idresponse> aaah
#2608 [23:24] <idresponse> i'm so with it! :D
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#2610 [23:24] <xales> idresponse: I don't think it will run on that card, but try downloading the latest drivers and see
#2611 [23:25] <idresponse> these are the latest drivers :(
#2612 [23:25] <idresponse> how come it ran in linux then?
#2613 [23:25] <idresponse> although, a bit crashy...
#2614 [23:25] <idresponse> poop.
#2615 [23:25] <xales> Drivers for Linux tend to be more advanced than Windows
#2616 [23:25] <xales> everything, really
#2617 [23:25] <xales> works better on Linux
#2618 [23:25] <idresponse> except STEAM :D
#2619 [23:25] <idresponse> and flash.
#2620 [23:26] <idresponse> :(
#2621 [23:26] <idresponse> soooooooo, crap. i have to buy a new laptop to play minecraft.
#2622 [23:26] <idresponse> THAT IS FANTASTIC! :D
#2623 [23:26] <relsqui> haha
#2624 [23:26] <relsqui> that's the spirit
#2625 [23:26] <idresponse> that's a bummer.
#2626 [23:26] <idresponse> really...
#2627 [23:26] <idresponse> i didn't think minecraft had -that- much requirements
#2628 [23:27] <xales> ??> idresponse requirements/lessrude
#2629 [23:27] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (requirements/lessrude) 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#2630 [23:27] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (requirements/lessrude) A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#2631 [23:27] <xales> rather
#2632 [23:27] <idresponse> lessrude? :D
#2633 [23:27] <xales> ??> idresponse retro
#2634 [23:27] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#2635 [23:27] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#2636 [23:27] <idresponse> there's a rude versin of the requirements?
#2637 [23:27] <xales> yep
#2638 [23:27] <xales> ?? requirements
#2639 [23:27] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
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#2641 [23:28] <idresponse> haha
#2642 [23:28] <idresponse> well i have 1.5gb of ram
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#2644 [23:28] <idresponse> i thought p4 3.0ghz was kinda fast still :D
#2645 [23:28] <Lish> so
#2646 [23:28] <idresponse> EVIDENTLY the p4 series is about equivelant to an apple ii e
#2647 [23:28] <idresponse> :D
#2648 [23:28] <idresponse> SO lish!
#2649 [23:29] <idresponse> i'm gonna experiment with alternative graphics drivers
#2650 [23:31] <idresponse> other than that, minecraft has been simply splendidly fun
#2651 [23:31] <idresponse> so... if i play single player is there a way i can dump what i've done and get on a multiplayer server and load it in there to show folks?
#2652 [23:31] <xales> yes
#2653 [23:32] <xales> ??> idresponse smp/savefiles
#2654 [23:32] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (smp/savefiles) Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#2655 [23:32] <VoxelHead> idresponse: (smp/savefiles) To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
#2656 [23:33] <idresponse> okay
#2657 [23:33] <idresponse> that's if i'm creating a server, correct?
#2658 [23:34] <Deathconsuming> So I am trying to get a few mods for my server and I can't seem to figure them out, and if they will have problems working together
#2659 [23:34] <xales> idresponse: yes
#2660 [23:34] <idresponse> i haven't even thought about mods :/
#2661 [23:35] <xales> Deathconsuming: try #bukkit for server mod stuff
#2662 [23:35] <Deathconsuming> Lol it's from the minecraft forums
#2663 [23:35] <Deathconsuming> But I will check there first :D
#2664 [23:36] <idresponse> i'm gonna cry a little thinking about how expensive a decent laptop is.
#2665 [23:36] * idresponse wipes away a tear
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#2666 [23:57] <Deathconsuming> How do I apply a skin?
#2667 [23:58] <xales> http://minecraft.net/ click "Profile" while logged in
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