#1 [00:00] * Shadow386 applies skin all over xales'face
#1 [00:00] <xales> D:
#2 [00:01] <Shadow386> >:D
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#5 [00:05] <xales> :O
#6 [00:05] <xales> It's a TestDummy
#7 [00:06] <bread> how do I minecraft
#8 [00:06] <TestDummy> It is.
#9 [00:06] <TestDummy> bread: You have to Java first.
#10 [00:06] <bread> how do I craft mines
#11 [00:06] <Kealper> cobblestone
#12 [00:06] <Jerub> bread: get wood. make planks. make sticks. turn planks and sticks into pickaxe.
#13 [00:06] <Shadow386> How do I IRC?
#14 [00:06] <bread> but
#15 [00:06] <VoxelHead> well, yay... i'm gonna be sick
#16 [00:06] <bread> how do I cobble stone!?
#17 [00:06] <xales> Voxel, fire everything at TestDummy
#18 [00:06] <Kealper> throwing stones together, duh!
#19 [00:06] <Jerub> apply wooden pickaxe to stone. use sticks+stone to make stone pickaxe.
#20 [00:06] * xales wonders if that still works :|
#20 [00:06] <bread> \o/
#21 [00:06] * xales thinks not
#21 [00:07] <Shadow386> what, are we testing how deadly vomit is?
#22 [00:07] <xales> Vox, cloak?
#23 [00:07] <xales> D:
#24 [00:07] <xales> Voxel, go away
#25 [00:07] <Kealper> vox, activate shields!
#26 [00:07] <Kealper> VoxelHead: y u no work
#27 [00:07] <aetherian> hello VoxelHead
#28 [00:08] <VoxelHead> howdy
#29 [00:08] <aetherian> he works.
#30 [00:08] <Shadow386> lawl
#31 [00:08] <xales> Voxel, fuck you
#32 [00:08] <Shadow386> he jelly
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#34 [00:09] <aetherian> vox doesn't like you, xales
#35 [00:09] <I> Hello?
#36 [00:09] <xales> Hi
#37 [00:09] <xales> aetherian: I noticed
#38 [00:09] <TestDummy> It's I.
#39 [00:09] <I> Can i pleeaasssee have some help with the mod more creepers and weirdos
#40 [00:09] <bread> I like letters.
#41 [00:09] <xales> ??> I mods
#42 [00:09] <VoxelHead> I: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#43 [00:09] <VoxelHead> I: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#44 [00:10] <I> How is this minecraft help then?!
#45 [00:10] <TestDummy> U MAD?
#46 [00:10] <I> hate
#47 [00:11] <xales> I: It's help for Minecraft, not Minecraft mods
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#49 [00:11] <I> Who the hell needs help with mine craft? left click break right put down
#50 [00:11] <I> pretty much it
#51 [00:12] <xales> People tend to have issues running the game or a server for it, not actually playing it...
#52 [00:12] <xales> Regardless, we don't provide any support for mods here
#53 [00:12] <Kealper> unless we're in a very good mood
#54 [00:12] <Shadow386> We're never in a good mood ;D
#55 [00:12] <Lish> dear god
#56 [00:12] <Kealper> i've been known to be, at times
#57 [00:12] <Lish> I think it might be working
#58 [00:13] <Kealper> Lish: :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#59 [00:13] <Shadow386> Kealper I love you <3
#60 [00:13] <Lish> possibly
#61 [00:13] <Kealper> :3
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#63 [00:13] <xales> 3:
#64 [00:13] <Shadow386> xales nooo its a trap!
#65 [00:13] <bread> :O
#66 [00:13] <TestDummy> 4:
#67 [00:13] <VoxelHead> marmalade
#68 [00:13] <aetherian> eh wozzis
#69 [00:13] <Kealper> 5:
#70 [00:13] <Lish> So the guy that owns the server disabled my rd account
#71 [00:13] <aetherian> who's TestDummy
#72 [00:13] <Shadow386> 6:
#73 [00:13] <Lish> and he's asking me all these questions about linux
#74 [00:13] <Lish> because he knows nothing of it
#75 [00:13] <bread> I am TestDummy
#76 [00:13] <Lish> but he thinks he fixed it
#77 [00:14] <Kealper> no, i am TestDummy
#78 [00:14] <bread> :|
#79 [00:14] <xales> TestDummy is borg
#80 [00:14] <Shadow386> No, I am TestDummy
#81 [00:14] <aetherian> no, I facepalm\
#82 [00:14] <bread> I am most definitely TestDummy.
#83 [00:14] <aetherian> s/facepalm\/facepalm
#84 [00:14] <Kealper> idk, i look quite like TestDummy
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#86 [00:14] <VoxelHead> You suck at the regular expression syntax.
#87 [00:14] <xales> It's true!
#88 [00:14] <xales> :P
#89 [00:14] <aetherian> shut up VoxelHead >:
#90 [00:14] <VoxelHead> :(
#91 [00:15] <bread> :)
#92 [00:15] <c0br42> tomorrow i'm going 2 purchase 100 minecraft accounts for anyone that would like one
#93 [00:15] <Kealper> sounds like a trap
#94 [00:15] <bread> ^
#95 [00:15] <aetherian> ^^
#96 [00:15] <Lish> I have a linux question :x
#97 [00:15] <Kealper> but hey, i'll bite
#98 [00:15] <bread> lol
#99 [00:15] <bread> Lish: rm -rf /
#100 [00:15] <bread> :3
#101 [00:15] <Lish> BY GOD I THINK THAT WILL WORK
#102 [00:15] <nipper> I would love a MC account.
#103 [00:15] <c0br42> bread: good way 2 get banned
#104 [00:15] <Kealper> Lish: lol
#105 [00:15] <c0br42> i'm thinking
#106 [00:16] * xales kicked c0br42 from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Good way 2 talk like a child and troll)
#107 [00:16] <bread> :3
#108 [00:16] <Lish> jk. but does Ubuntu have default blocked ports?
#109 [00:16] <Kealper> lol
#110 [00:16] <Kealper> i love back seat moderators
#111 [00:16] <xales> Lish: `sudo ufw off`
#112 [00:16] <Shadow386> Wanna know a way to get banned?
#113 [00:16] <Shadow386> Piss off an OP
#114 [00:16] <Shadow386> Although they <3 me
#115 [00:16] <Lish> ufw?
#116 [00:16] <bread> xales is my best buddy
#117 [00:16] <xales> ufw = uncomplicated firewall
#118 [00:16] <Lish> okay
#119 [00:16] <Lish> hopefully that'll work
#120 [00:17] <Shadow386> It sounds as if there's something in my bathroom, but nobody is awake
#121 [00:17] * xales brb
#121 [00:17] <Shadow386> .-.
#122 [00:17] <Lish> I really wish I could be doing this myself. This is retarded.
#123 [00:17] <bread> I think Ubuntu has lots of default unpleasantries.
#124 [00:17] <aetherian> what do you use, then
#125 [00:17] <TestDummy> Lish: It doesn't.
#126 [00:17] <bread> aetherian: Slackware?
#127 [00:18] <aetherian> ahk
#128 [00:18] <Lish> eh?
#129 [00:18] <Lish> What doesn't?
#130 [00:18] <TestDummy> Ubuntu.
#131 [00:18] <Lish> ...
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#133 [00:18] <Lish> oh
#134 [00:18] <Lish> derp
#135 [00:18] <c0br42> xales: right...
#136 [00:18] <Lish> okay
#137 [00:18] <Lish> I see
#138 [00:18] <TestDummy> Rather, if you have something that's listening, it should work just fine.
#139 [00:18] <TestDummy> BUT
#140 [00:18] <c0br42> what was your linux question Lish ?
#141 [00:18] <bread> c0br42: anyone who actually executes rm -rf / as root deserves their fate.
#142 [00:18] <TestDummy> If you do enable ufw, then obviously you need to make exceptions for the daemons that are listening.
#143 [00:19] <TestDummy> Or something like that.
#144 [00:19] <c0br42> bread no, people that use linux are just trying to get away from windows, decent minded people would support that movement
#145 [00:19] <bread> wat
#146 [00:19] <bread> How is that at all relevant?
#147 [00:19] <Lish> Basically what's going on is that there's an ubuntu vm and we're trying to run minecraft on it
#148 [00:19] <Lish> but something is blocking the connection
#149 [00:19] <c0br42> Lish: did you set up port forwarding?
#150 [00:20] <Lish> I'm not the one doing it (because the guy who owns the server is a moron), but I'll tell him to do that.
#151 [00:20] <bread> wait
#152 [00:20] <c0br42> don't forget to port forward from the host to the actual VM itself also
#153 [00:20] <bread> you're trying to run a minecraft server in a VM?
#154 [00:20] <Kealper> bread: better not to ask
#155 [00:21] <Lish> It's a long story
#156 [00:21] <Kealper> bread: it's...comlpicated lol
#157 [00:21] <Lish> Very
#158 [00:21] <Kealper> complicated*
#159 [00:21] <bread> apparently. :o
#160 [00:21] <bread> I'll just leave it at that then!
#161 [00:21] <bread> \o/
#162 [00:21] <Kealper> and i'd like to say this...i use windows as a main OS, and it rocks.
#163 [00:21] <bread> mehhh
#164 [00:22] <Lish> Windows is fine
#165 [00:22] <bread> :P
#166 [00:22] <Lish> But I like Ubuntu as well
#167 [00:22] <bread> I don't like either \o/
#168 [00:22] <c0br42> windows sucks imo
#169 [00:22] <Lish> Apple fanboy?
#170 [00:22] <bread> ha
#171 [00:22] <c0br42> i'd rather put a fire out with my face to be completely honest
#172 [00:23] <bread> no I use Linix Lish
#173 [00:23] <Kealper> i've never had issues with windows, but if i were to use a nix os, it'd be Arch with Xfce as a DE, or Linux Mint if i wanted insert disc and go
#174 [00:23] <bread> pffft DEs
#175 [00:23] <c0br42> i run Mint
#176 [00:23] <Lish> ...
#177 [00:23] <Lish> You use Linix?
#178 [00:23] <Kealper> lol bread
#179 [00:23] <bread> yes Lish I do
#180 [00:23] <Kealper> Lunix
#181 [00:23] <Lish> Please do give me some information on Linix.
#182 [00:23] <bread> ew
#183 [00:23] <bread> ER
#184 [00:23] <TestDummy> I can see #minecrafthelp is learninga lot about itself today.
#185 [00:23] <Lish> Rather, I'd like to run Linicks
#186 [00:23] <bread> typo
#187 [00:23] <bread> lol
#188 [00:23] <bread> I run Linux
#189 [00:23] <bread> lol
#190 [00:23] <Lish> :P
#191 [00:24] * bread r derp
#191 [00:24] <Kealper> TestDummy: it happens
#192 [00:24] <c0br42> i just placed a tnt pressure play in this one guys house XD
#193 [00:24] <TestDummy> Remember kids, Ubuntu is an ancient African word for "I can't configure Debian."
#194 [00:24] <Lish> lul
#195 [00:24] <c0br42> s/play/plate
#196 [00:24] <VoxelHead> c0br42: +/
#197 [00:24] <bread> Actually
#198 [00:24] <Kealper> TestDummy: +1
#199 [00:24] <bread> it means "I can't configure Slackware, Arch, or even Debian."
#200 [00:24] <bread> :3
#201 [00:24] <Lish> I thought it was an ancient Roman word for "Too lazy for Gentoo"
#202 [00:24] <Kealper> s/word1/word2/
#203 [00:24] <bread> ha
#204 [00:24] <bread> lolbuntu
#205 [00:25] <Kealper> poobuntu
#206 [00:25] <bread> ha
#207 [00:25] <bread> that's a good one
#208 [00:25] <Kealper> and when i said Linux Mint
#209 [00:25] <Lish> I haven't run Mint in forever
#210 [00:25] <Kealper> i meant the Linux Mint Debian, the Ubuntu one is garbage
#211 [00:25] <bread> Mint = Ubuntu + more crap
#212 [00:25] <bread> ah
#213 [00:25] <bread> yes alright then
#214 [00:25] <c0br42> mint == awesomeness
#215 [00:25] <Lish> I've been trying to get Ubuntu to run on my CR-48
#216 [00:25] <Kealper> Mint Debian is actually quite nice
#217 [00:26] <xales> TestDummy: Aperture Science can't configure Debian on their IRC server :|
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#219 [00:26] <Lish> But it doesn't work :(
#220 [00:26] <Kealper> still a bit on the heavy side
#221 [00:26] <Kealper> but meh
#222 [00:26] <VoxelHead> but meh... beh
#223 [00:26] <Lish> Okay
#224 [00:26] <TestDummy> xales: What are you implying? :(
#225 [00:26] <Kealper> lol
#226 [00:26] <Kealper> Arpeture Science!
#227 [00:26] <Lish> I tried connecting and it was an unknown host. He says: "I have made the vm adapter static by giving it a static IP, so maybe there is something blocking it on Ubuntu?"
#228 [00:26] <Lish> Any suggestions?
#229 [00:26] <bread> We do what we must!
#230 [00:26] <Kealper> (that's how the cool people say it)
#231 [00:27] <xales> TestDummy: It's fun to say nasty things about things we ourselves use ;)
#232 [00:27] <Kealper> <3 aperture.esper :3
#233 [00:27] <TestDummy> Lish: For starters, it'd help to know what he's virtualizing it in since each virtualizations suite handles that sort of thing differently.
#234 [00:27] <Lish> Virtual Box
#235 [00:27] <TestDummy> Did he set it to bridged adapter instead of NAT?
#236 [00:27] <Lish> and it's desktop 10.10
#237 [00:28] <Lish> And it's a bridged adapter, not a NAT
#238 [00:28] <Lish> Also, I have no idea what this means: "i will try to but back the otherway and forward port 25565"
#239 [00:28] * TestDummy doesn't see what the issue is.
#239 [00:29] <Lish> I don't know... He won't let me have access to see what's going on
#240 [00:29] <TestDummy> If I had to guess, it just needs to be forwarded to the appropriate IP, that of the VM itself, not its host.
#241 [00:29] <Guest1390141681> It really depends on how he's setting up the VM, whether it's doing NAT of its own, or bridging/borrowing an IP of the same subnet as the host computer
#242 [00:29] <Guest1390141681> bah
#243 [00:30] <Kealper> lol
#244 [00:30] <Lish> It's bridged :p
#245 [00:30] <xales> GreyVulpine: :P
#246 [00:30] <Kealper> i was like lolwut? a guest* talking tech crap? what channel am i in again?
#247 [00:30] <TestDummy> GreyVulpine: "Bridged adapter" in Virtualbox should make it behave like another other computer physically connected into the network.
#248 [00:30] <bread> lool
#249 [00:30] <VoxelHead> loooooooooooooool
#250 [00:30] <TestDummy> Took me a while to figure out, honestly. :(
#251 [00:30] <TestDummy> -other
#252 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Right, that's how many "bridge"-configured VMs do it
#253 [00:31] <TestDummy> :)
#254 [00:31] <VoxelHead> =]
#255 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> VMware does it that way, Parallels on the mac platform do it that way
#256 [00:31] <TestDummy> Just making sure we're on the same page.
#257 [00:31] <TestDummy> It does seem to be consistent across other suites.
#258 [00:32] <Lish> Sorry, what exactly do I need to tell him to do?
#259 [00:32] <Lish> I've been working on this so long my brain is dead.
#260 [00:32] <TestDummy> Get somebody that knows what they're doing? :P
#261 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Could.. he come on here and tell us exactly what he's doing..
#262 [00:33] <Lish> Well, if he would stop being arrogant, I'd be doing it
#263 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Or even, give us screenshots of what he's configuring
#264 [00:33] <Lish> I can't. He disabled my remote desktop account because he's a jerk.
#265 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Oh nice.
#266 [00:33] <TestDummy> Lish: Personally, I love it when somebody's having trouble and asks for my help, but witholds and/or doesn't know the information I need to help them further.
#267 [00:34] <Lish> Well, I was working on it myself (it's my dad's server and this dude is his business partner)
#268 [00:34] <Lish> And dad was fine with it
#269 [00:34] <TestDummy> Which makes running my own help channel oh so fun. :(
#270 [00:34] <Lish> And all of a sudden NOPE
#271 [00:34] <Shadow386> Lish are you paying for it?
#272 [00:34] * TestDummy would have stopped there.
#272 [00:34] <Lish> No, my dad is fronting all the money for it
#273 [00:35] <Shadow386> Then tell your dad to kick his ass
#274 [00:35] <Lish> I might have to
#275 [00:35] <Shadow386> If its his money going down the drain cause that guy wants to be a lazy fuck and not do what hes paid to do, then hes not worth paying
#276 [00:35] <TestDummy> Wait a second.
#277 [00:35] <Lish> No, no. the guy isn't getting paid
#278 [00:35] <Lish> My dad is paying for the server
#279 [00:36] <TestDummy> Is this person supposed to know how to perform the task he's been given?
#280 [00:36] <Lish> Yes, he is.
#281 [00:36] <TestDummy> ...
#282 [00:36] <Lish> IKR
#283 [00:36] <Lish> omfg
#284 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Setting up a server via a VM-bridged adapter shouldn't be that hard to do
#285 [00:36] <TestDummy> I mean, I'd understand if he never did it before. We're all new to things at some point.
#286 [00:36] <TestDummy> But if he's done this before, or should know how, it's no excuse.
#287 [00:36] <Shadow386> TestDummy i think disabling remote desktop is the part that crosses the line
#288 [00:36] * TestDummy proceeds to interface his head with the nearest desk.
#288 [00:37] <TestDummy> Oh hey, there's one right here. Perfect.
#289 [00:37] <gkx> I think I did that at one point
#290 [00:37] <Lish> Yeah, I tried to connect this afternoon and it said my password and domain were wrong
#291 [00:37] <Lish> and my face
#292 [00:37] <Lish> omg
#293 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> I've never touched Parallels, but I got it done in about 30 minutes, over teamviewer, on somebody else's mac.
#294 [00:37] <gkx> Maybe not
#295 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Many VM-suites are pretty similiar.
#296 [00:37] <Lish> I feel like I've been bashing my head against a wall full of nails since I started talking to this guy
#297 [00:39] <TestDummy> :(
#298 [00:40] <bread> Lish: isn't that the best?
#299 [00:41] <gkx> I'm confused, what exactly are you doing? Why do you need to be helping this guy?
#300 [00:41] <TestDummy> Yeah, really.
#301 [00:41] <TestDummy> He should be left to his own devices.
#302 [00:42] <TestDummy> If he can't figure it out, then he's too incompetent for the job.
#303 [00:42] <relsqui> hey, is the auth server slagged atm?
#304 [00:42] <gkx> You're doing someone else's job for him?
#305 [00:42] <TestDummy> The Dilbert Principle is in full force, apparently.
#306 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> I believe it is relsqui
#307 [00:43] <relsqui> dagnabbit
#308 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> er, nope
#309 [00:43] <gkx> What's the Dilbert Principle?
#310 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> I got in
#311 [00:43] <relsqui> I guess I'll have to do homework or be social or some shit
#312 [00:43] <Lish> No, I'm supposed to be doing this myself
#313 [00:43] <Lish> But he took over
#314 [00:43] <Lish> My dad said I could set the server up and stuff
#315 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Auth server's up for me, just that first login took some time
#316 [00:44] <Lish> the guy is the one who is supposed to be helping me, not the other way around
#317 [00:44] <TestDummy> =/
#318 [00:44] <relsqui> ah there it goes
#319 [00:44] * TestDummy is confused.
#319 [00:44] <relsqui> took a few tries but not a million
#320 [00:44] * TestDummy goes to work on other things.
#320 [00:44] <Lish> I'm confused myself at this point
#321 [00:44] <Lish> lol
#322 [00:44] <Lish> I'll holler if he ends up blowing up the server box.
#323 [00:45] <gkx> So why are you trying to host a server off of a VM?
#324 [00:45] <Lish> long story
#325 [00:45] <Lish> such a long story
#326 [00:45] <TestDummy> Make it short.
#327 [00:45] <TestDummy> :P
#328 [00:45] <Lish> The server is running Windows Server 2003
#329 [00:45] <Lish> And it would crash whenever someone tried to connect
#330 [00:45] <relsqui> wow, no one else is on. I can make it day all the time! :D
#331 [00:46] <Lish> and kealper couldn't fix it
#332 [00:46] <gkx> That's the OS, you mean?
#333 [00:46] <Lish> so
#334 [00:46] <Lish> yeah
#335 [00:46] <Lish> ...what else would it be? :x
#336 [00:46] <gkx> I don't know. Honestly, never heard of Server '03
#337 [00:46] <Lish> oh
#338 [00:46] <Lish> It's XP-based
#339 [00:46] <Lish> (which I think is the problem)
#340 [00:47] <gkx> But it's running a Server OS and it's not working as a server.
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#342 [00:47] <Lish> It works for the other games it hosts
#343 [00:47] <Lish> just not minecraft
#344 [00:47] <gkx> So why not trash the whole concept of a server, make the operating system Linux?
#345 [00:47] <Lish> Because it hosts Source games
#346 [00:47] <Lish> And Source dislikes Linux.
#347 [00:47] <gkx> Oh and you don't want to set up all of the other server software.
#348 [00:47] <xales> Source runs fine on Linux
#349 [00:47] <gkx> Does it have to run all of them at the same time?
#350 [00:47] <xales> :|
#351 [00:47] <Lish> They had issues
#352 [00:47] <bread> Lish: Source games have Linux servers
#353 [00:47] <Lish> I know they do
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#357 [00:48] <gkx> Lish, does it have to run all of them at the same time?
#358 [00:48] <Lish> But my dad said that the game servers have marked better performance on Windows. Since he plays L4D2 on it all the time, I believe him
#359 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#360 [00:48] <Lish> No, I think it's only running L4D2 right now
#361 [00:48] * GreyVulpine coughs
#361 [00:49] <gkx> If you wanted, you could dual boot Linux.
#362 [00:49] <gkx> And then just run the Linux side when you wanted the minecraft server running
#363 [00:49] <Lish> can't
#364 [00:49] <gkx> Why not?
#365 [00:49] <Lish> Minecraft needs to run 24/7
#366 [00:49] <bread> Windows is just not a good OS for servers :|
#367 [00:50] <gkx> Oh, I see.
#368 [00:50] <Lish> It's for a gaming community. :/
#369 [00:50] <Whoop365> hey
#370 [00:50] <gkx> Hmm.
#371 [00:50] <bread> whooooop
#372 [00:50] * xales kicked bread from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: Testing, one two three!)
#373 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Source games are notoriously less demanding on *nix than windows.
#374 [00:50] <Whoop365> someone wanna play coop?
#375 [00:50] <Lish> Maybe, but what dad says goes since it's his server.
#376 [00:50] * GreyVulpine has run... so many srcds servers.
#376 [00:50] <Whoop365> plus how do you start a server
#377 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> For.
#378 [00:51] <Lish> I think it's the plugins that he was using that weren't getting along with linux
#379 [00:51] <Whoop365> and i take it i shoudl switch to my linux since thats what the apparent best is
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#381 [00:51] <bread> :O
#382 [00:51] <gkx> You could try the Source servers on Ubuntu dual boot. If he notices a distinct difference, you haven't lost anything, but it might work.
#383 [00:51] <VoxelHead> crikey
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#385 [00:52] <Whoop365> anyone for coop?
#386 [00:52] <Lish> I'll try to talk him in to it, but his friend is going to get pissed about it
#387 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Whoop365, for what?
#388 [00:52] <VoxelHead> whoooo I'm naked
#389 [00:52] <Lish> hot
#390 [00:52] <Whoop365> idk minecraft....
#391 [00:52] <bread> Avril!
#392 [00:52] <Whoop365> i just got it
#393 [00:52] <Whoop365> new to this
#394 [00:53] <bread> Come to get minecraft help, have we?
#395 [00:53] <Avril> lol bread
#396 [00:53] <gkx> Hmm, I wonder what redstone smelted would look like
#397 [00:53] <gkx> Whoop, you just got LInux or you just got Minecraft?
#398 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Ah, you'll be better off looking for servers like...
#399 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#400 [00:53] <VoxelHead> let's go to my room, pig
#401 [00:53] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#402 [00:53] <AG_Scott> blood obviously
#403 [00:53] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#404 [00:53] <Lish> agh. I think I need to go on a walk. So frustrated.
#405 [00:53] <Lish> I'll be back
#406 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Oh neat, dopeghoti updated that faq
#407 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Thanks dopeghoti.
#408 [00:56] <Whoop365> i have both linux and minecraft
#409 [00:56] <Whoop365> but im on windows right now
#410 [00:57] <Whoop365> hello gkx...sorry wasnt paying attention
#411 [00:58] <gkx> Hi!
#412 [00:58] <gkx> No, but I meant like which you were new to, Whoop365
#413 [00:58] <Whoop365> nah iv had linux for over a year now...sort of new to it though...and i just bought minecraft tonight
#414 [00:59] <gkx> Ooh cool
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#416 [01:02] <bread> yay Linux \o/
#417 [01:02] <gkx> I feel like Linux is one of those things where people are way more excited about it than it deserves.
#418 [01:02] <xales> yay bread \o/
#419 [01:03] <aetherian> yay challah \o/
#420 [01:04] <gkx> lol
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#422 [01:07] <bread> \o/
#423 [01:07] <xales> /o\
#424 [01:07] <bread> and I am way excited about Linux, and it deserves every bit!
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#427 [01:08] <aetherian> |o|
#428 [01:08] <bread> TIE FIGHTER?
#429 [01:08] <bread> :OOOOO
#430 [01:08] <Chr|s> hey guys any idea why I get this error "Could not create the Java virtual machine." when I run my minecraft_server.sh?
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#432 [01:08] <aetherian> bread: aw yeah
#433 [01:08] <aetherian> much better than xales's too
#434 [01:08] <bread> :3
#435 [01:08] <xales> Chr|s: Not enough RAM available
#436 [01:09] <xales> _ _
#437 [01:09] <xales> | | ___ | |
#438 [01:09] <xales> | |/ _ \| |
#439 [01:09] <xales> | |\___/| |
#440 [01:09] <xales> |_| |_|
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#442 [01:09] <aetherian> it's unbalanced still, xales
#443 [01:09] <xales> not for me
#444 [01:09] <xales> get a better client
#445 [01:09] <xales> bread and I see it correctly \o/
#446 [01:09] <aetherian> I'm fine with PChat
#447 [01:09] <aetherian> :)
#448 [01:09] <VoxelHead> :o)
#449 [01:09] <aetherian> shut up vox
#450 [01:09] <bread> what xales said :3
#451 [01:09] <VoxelHead> bah
#452 [01:09] <AeSix> Hi everyone :)
#453 [01:09] <xales> hi
#454 [01:10] <AeSix> was wondering, is the password recovery system down?
#455 [01:10] <AeSix> or not sending emails?
#456 [01:10] <Chr|s> there is more than enough memory :D
#457 [01:10] <gkx> Gah Whoop365 messaged me and I didn't respond in time
#458 [01:10] <bread> aetherian: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/Screenshot-bread%20-%20irssi-1.png :3
#459 [01:10] <bread> what it's supposed to look like
#460 [01:10] * bread is too lazy to edit the image, so you get the whole thing
#460 [01:10] <bread> heh
#461 [01:11] <aetherian> haha
#462 [01:11] <xales> aetherian: No, I believe it's working fine
#463 [01:12] <bread> lol
#464 [01:12] <bread> tab complete
#465 [01:12] <xales> and
#466 [01:12] <xales> AeSix: rather
#467 [01:12] <xales> D:
#468 [01:12] <bread> :P
#469 [01:12] <AeSix> ok xales, know of any way to check user status?
#470 [01:12] <bread> yes aetherian my screenshot is working fine, as far as xales knows
#471 [01:12] <AeSix> the nick "AeSix" is registered, I'm pretty sure I reg'd it a while back
#472 [01:12] <xales> AeSix: What do you mean?
#473 [01:13] <AeSix> but I can't get an email for it
#474 [01:13] <xales> Are you sure it's the right address, and that you did actually register it?
#475 [01:13] <AeSix> I'm using "AeSix_Reifcul" now, and tried a pw recovery for it, and got none
#476 [01:13] <AeSix> I'm not positive I registered it, but, I'm not getting the email for the account I'm using either
#477 [01:14] <xales> Try recovering by entering an email, not the username, when it gives you the option
#478 [01:14] <AeSix> I did
#479 [01:14] <AeSix> nodda :S
#480 [01:14] <AeSix> oh wait
#481 [01:14] <AeSix> just came in
#482 [01:14] <AeSix> :S
#483 [01:14] <AeSix> slooow LOL
#484 [01:14] <aetherian> Z: > :S
#485 [01:15] <AeSix> eyes to the left pls :)
#486 [01:16] <AeSix> ok, well this is disturbing :S
#487 [01:16] <AeSix> lol, I wonder who has my nick
#488 [01:16] <AeSix> I wonder if it's the black canadian porn star or the german WoW gamer... LOL
#489 [01:19] <AeSix> Thanks for the help xales :)
#490 [01:19] <AeSix> I appreciate it
#491 [01:19] <bread> :o
#492 [01:19] <VoxelHead> well i never
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#496 [01:33] <aetherian> VoxelHead: you never what
#497 [01:35] <bread> he never
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#499 [01:36] * Liraxus sneaks around
#499 [01:36] <Liraxus> Hey...
#500 [01:37] <bread> :O
#501 [01:37] <aetherian> hello.
#502 [01:37] <Liraxus> I need something quick
#503 [01:37] <bread> sneaky sneaky
#504 [01:37] <VoxelHead> yikes
#505 [01:37] <Liraxus> The texture pack for the blocks
#506 [01:37] <Liraxus> just the image
#507 [01:37] <Liraxus> up to date
#508 [01:37] <Liraxus> I wanna make a texture pack.
#509 [01:37] <Liraxus> NOT THE FULL APPDATA FOLDER
#510 [01:37] <Liraxus> i just want the image for the blocks,
#511 [01:37] <Liraxus> THATS IT
#512 [01:38] <bread> where would that be found?
#513 [01:38] <bread> lol
#514 [01:38] <Liraxus> the appdata folder
#515 [01:38] <aetherian> um
#516 [01:38] <bread> where in the folder
#517 [01:38] <aetherian> where is the appdata folder in linux, anyway?
#518 [01:38] <bread> ~/.minecraft
#519 [01:38] <Liraxus> The .minecraft foldr
#520 [01:38] <bread> where all settings go lol
#521 [01:38] <Liraxus> go to the minecraft.jar folder, and open it with Winrar
#522 [01:38] <bread> lol winrar
#523 [01:38] <aetherian> s/winrar/7zip
#524 [01:39] <VoxelHead> Invalid regular expression.
#525 [01:39] <aetherian> eh why
#526 [01:39] <aetherian> wait wai what
#527 [01:39] <Liraxus> You know of GG2?
#528 [01:39] <bread> Liraxus: what is the file you want :o
#529 [01:39] <Liraxus> that tf2 demake :l
#530 [01:39] <Liraxus> The image file for the texturs for the blocks
#531 [01:40] <bread> :|
#532 [01:40] <Liraxus> :/
#533 [01:40] <Liraxus> forget the name
#534 [01:40] <Liraxus> sue me, i got no minecraft.
#535 [01:40] <Liraxus> Well, no Appdate.
#536 [01:40] <Liraxus> *appdata
#537 [01:40] <Liraxus> My family really isn't that rich, so i just hope i get lucky and someone comes and gifts me minecraft for a holiday or somethng
#538 [01:41] <Liraxus> im not tryng to convice you t give it to me, but someday a generous person will give it to me
#539 [01:41] <aetherian> found it
#540 [01:41] * Liraxus feels like a greedy prick
#540 [01:41] <Liraxus> Ok, can i have it?
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#542 [01:41] <aetherian> in minecraft.jar (the appdata one) it's terrain.png
#543 [01:41] <aetherian> do you need me to upload it?
#544 [01:41] <Liraxus> sure,
#545 [01:41] <Liraxus> As long as i can open it and edit it,
#546 [01:42] <Deathconsuming> So since people in the #bukkit aren't helping me, anyone mind tossing help at me? >_<
#547 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Death - with?
#548 [01:43] <aetherian> uploading...
#549 [01:43] <Liraxus> thank you,
#550 [01:43] <aetherian> http://i.imgur.com/dvKPU.png
#551 [01:43] <Liraxus> i hae been lookig everywhere for this
#552 [01:43] <Deathconsuming> 00:25:27 [INFO] Persistence: Create a plugins/Persistence/permissions.yml to use
#553 [01:43] <Deathconsuming> internal permissions I have it but idk whats wrong
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#555 [01:43] <bread> \o/
#556 [01:43] * aetherian eats bread
#556 [01:43] <Liraxus> again, my good friend, thank you.
#557 [01:43] <bread> :O
#558 [01:43] <VoxelHead> blimey
#559 [01:44] <aetherian> bread: are you challah?
#560 [01:44] <Liraxus> im gonna go have fun and edit this so i ca make the texture pack :D
#561 [01:44] <bread> am I what
#562 [01:44] <aetherian> challah
#563 [01:44] <aetherian> it's a kind of bread
#564 [01:44] <bread> oh
#565 [01:44] <bread> no I am not
#566 [01:44] <Liraxus> i will call you if i need something else.
#567 [01:44] <bread> hold on!
#568 [01:44] <aetherian> :(
#569 [01:44] <Kealper> bread is potato
#570 [01:45] <aetherian> oh whatever
#571 [01:45] <aetherian> challah is something that is associated with bread in my mind
#572 [01:45] <bread> aetherian: this is me http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/tacticalbread.jpg :3
#573 [01:45] <aetherian> lol
#574 [01:46] <Kealper> lol
#575 [01:46] <bread> \o/
#576 [01:46] <aetherian> challah is still better ;_;
#577 [01:46] <bread> pffft
#578 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> bread
#579 [01:46] * bread is tactical
#579 [01:47] <aetherian> I could really go for some solid food
#580 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> mmm bread
#581 [01:47] * bread sneaks away
#581 [01:47] <aetherian> not having really eaten in >2 days does that to someone
#582 [01:47] <bread> also, sometimes this is me http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/breadpool.png
#583 [01:48] <Kealper> :o
#584 [01:48] <VoxelHead> sacrebleu!
#585 [01:48] <aetherian> this is you: http://istockpho.to/h898Xj
#586 [01:48] <bread> nooooooooooo
#587 [01:49] <bread> how could you
#588 [01:49] <bread> that's horrible!
#589 [01:49] <bread> MY POOR BROTHER
#590 [01:49] <aetherian> I thought that was you cousin...
#591 [01:49] <aetherian> *your
#592 [01:49] <bread> D:
#593 [01:52] <aetherian> hmm
#594 [01:52] <aetherian> what am I missing...
#595 [01:52] <bread> bacon?
#596 [01:53] * aetherian is attempting to have a collection of easy-to-use terminal applications for when he doesn't want to use a gui
#596 [01:53] <Liraxus> wtf
#597 [01:53] <aetherian> and no, not bacon
#598 [01:53] <aetherian> and what what the feth, Liraxus
#599 [01:53] <Liraxus> whats this block next t the obsidion
#600 [01:53] <Liraxus> I never saw it before:/
#601 [01:53] <aetherian> uh
#602 [01:54] <bread> all you need is irssi links and nano
#603 [01:54] <bread> \o/
#604 [01:54] <Kealper> >nano
#605 [01:54] <Kealper> >vim is bettar
#606 [01:54] <bread> pfft
#607 [01:54] <aetherian> lapis lazuli
#608 [01:54] <bread> vim's keyboard shortcuts are absurd
#609 [01:54] <aetherian> I use nano, because it's easy...
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#611 [01:54] <xales> bread, that's emacs
#612 [01:54] <xales> you derp
#613 [01:54] <aetherian> I'll learn vim some day
#614 [01:54] <bread> emacs is lame too
#615 [01:54] <bread> but the whole :wq thing
#616 [01:55] <Kealper> how is vim hard ._.
#617 [01:55] <bread> wtf is that
#618 [01:55] <aetherian> and you're missing links, bread
#619 [01:55] <xales> bread
#620 [01:55] <xales> :write quit
#621 [01:55] <xales> :<
#622 [01:55] <bread> yeah I know what it means
#623 [01:55] <bread> but typing : to do something
#624 [01:55] <bread> wtf is that
#625 [01:55] <xales> :|
#626 [01:55] <aetherian> aahhhh
#627 [01:55] <Kealper> unix?
#628 [01:55] <xales> ^
#629 [01:55] <aetherian> shut up, everyone
#630 [01:55] <aetherian> thank you
#631 [01:55] <aetherian> this is not the place for editor wars
#632 [01:55] <Liraxus> :1
#633 [01:55] <bread> I don't want to have to do some crazy : thing to actually type in my text editor
#634 [01:55] <bread> lol
#635 [01:56] <aetherian> bread: what do you use?
#636 [01:56] <Kealper> nano >.>
#637 [01:56] <bread> CLI editing nano
#638 [01:56] <bread> non-CLI, geany
#639 [01:56] <Liraxus> :3
#640 [01:56] <xales> bread, you use openbox, right?
#641 [01:56] <bread> yes sir!
#642 [01:56] <xales> lol
#643 [01:56] <xales> try xfce some day
#644 [01:56] <bread> nooo
#645 [01:56] <Liraxus> ma now kbai
#646 [01:56] <xales> yes
#647 [01:56] <bread> DEs are lameee
#648 [01:57] <bread> I've used XFCE before
#649 [01:57] <xales> orly
#650 [01:57] <aetherian> I use lxde :D
#651 [01:57] <xales> also, why openbox, of the *box*es?
#652 [01:57] <bread> if I were to use a full DE, it would be XFCE
#653 [01:57] <bread> but alas!
#654 [01:57] <bread> I don't
#655 [01:57] <bread> :3
#656 [01:57] * xales is only acquainted with fluxbox
#656 [01:57] <aetherian> what DE do you use, xales
#657 [01:57] <bread> fluxbox is poooopy
#658 [01:58] <bread> I h8 it
#659 [01:58] <xales> y
#660 [01:58] <Kealper> bread: yes, yes it is
#661 [01:58] <xales> D:
#662 [01:58] <bread> configuring it is a pain
#663 [01:58] <bread> and the panel is stoopid
#664 [01:58] <aetherian> ack
#665 [01:58] <xales> :<
#666 [01:58] <xales> true
#667 [01:58] <bread> I like using my own panel
#668 [01:58] <xales> isn't openbox like 50 years old?
#669 [01:58] <bread> lol
#670 [01:58] <xales> or is that blackbox
#671 [01:58] <bread> no
#672 [01:58] <bread> yes
#673 [01:58] <aetherian> why oh why did I have to start this >.>
#674 [01:58] <xales> derp
#675 [01:58] <bread> openbox used to be based of blackbox
#676 [01:59] <Kealper> aetherian: this is a rather sane and intelligent conversation :/
#677 [01:59] <bread> yes
#678 [01:59] <bread> yes it is
#679 [01:59] <bread> much better than would be expected in a minecraft help channel
#680 [01:59] <bread> :P
#681 [01:59] <aetherian> Kealper: that was not the point
#682 [01:59] <xales> what panel you use bread?
#683 [01:59] <bread> tint2 \o/
#684 [01:59] <aetherian> the point was it's still a "my thing is better" even if "my thing is better because isn't you thing like 50 years old"
#685 [02:00] <bread> lol
#686 [02:00] <aetherian> *your
#687 [02:00] <bread> no this is "I like my thing better because......."
#688 [02:00] <Kealper> oh yeah?! well...i use the Aero DE!
#689 [02:00] <bread> if you like vim, go ahead and use it, I don't kurr
#690 [02:00] <bread> lol
#691 [02:00] <xales> bread you should teach me how to openbox some day
#692 [02:00] <bread> Kealper: lolwindows
#693 [02:01] <bread> xales: OK!:D
#694 [02:01] <Kealper> :P
#695 [02:01] <xales> I need to fix Arch
#696 [02:01] <xales> it has SERIOUS ISSUEZ
#697 [02:01] <aetherian> I dun' care what others use
#698 [02:01] <bread> loool
#699 [02:01] <aetherian> and yes it does
#700 [02:01] <xales> so, this is funny
#701 [02:01] <xales> I boot it
#702 [02:01] <xales> and get inode errors
#703 [02:01] <xales> I go to install disk
#704 [02:01] <xales> try to reinstall
#705 [02:01] <xales> and it's like
#706 [02:01] <xales> available HDDs:
#707 [02:01] <xales> /dev/sda 36000MB, derp wahtever
#708 [02:01] <xales> /dev/sdb 0MB 0derp
#709 [02:01] <xales> D:
#710 [02:01] <bread> ffuu
#711 [02:01] <Kealper> O.o
#712 [02:01] <bread> is this on your server?
#713 [02:01] <bread> or home PC
#714 [02:01] <xales> no, desktop
#715 [02:01] <bread> ?
#716 [02:02] <bread> ah
#717 [02:02] <Lish> HOLY MOTHER OF GOD
#718 [02:02] <xales> it's supposed to be on /dev/sdb
#719 [02:02] <Kealper> O.o
#720 [02:02] <Lish> GUESS WHAT JUST HAPPENED
#721 [02:02] <Kealper> it worked?
#722 [02:02] <Lish> GUESS GUESS GUESS GUESS
#723 [02:02] <bread> :O
#724 [02:02] <TestDummy> SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB
#725 [02:02] <VoxelHead> boom
#726 [02:02] <bread> ^
#727 [02:02] <Lish> I JUST LOGGED INTO A MINECRAFT SERVER
#728 [02:02] <Kealper> (also, caps lock)
#729 [02:02] <aetherian> :O
#730 [02:02] <Lish> oh
#731 [02:02] <Lish> ribght
#732 [02:02] <VoxelHead> cor
#733 [02:02] <Lish> sorry, my keyboard doesn't have a light and I wasn't watching
#734 [02:02] <Lish> but holy god
#735 [02:02] <bread> hahha
#736 [02:02] <Lish> it worked
#737 [02:02] <Kealper> lol
#738 [02:02] <Kealper> nice lol
#739 [02:02] <aetherian> face ious palm ious
#740 [02:02] <xales> hmm
#741 [02:02] <xales> somebody set us up the bomb
#742 [02:02] <xales> VoxelHead: ??
#743 [02:03] <Kealper> so, running it through a VM worked?
#744 [02:03] <xales> bread, Kealper: how fix 0MB drive :|
#745 [02:03] <bread> beat it with a stick!
#746 [02:03] <bread> :D
#747 [02:03] <Kealper> xales: lol asking me like i know
#748 [02:03] <VoxelHead> :)
#749 [02:03] <bread> xales: systemrescuecd?
#750 [02:03] <bread> with gparted?
#751 [02:03] <aetherian> rm -rf / is the only way >:
#752 [02:03] <VoxelHead> Would you like a hand?
#753 [02:03] <xales> bread: what's gparted going to do? :|
#754 [02:03] <aetherian> VoxelHead: yes please
#755 [02:03] <TestDummy> That's what she said.
#756 [02:04] <xales> the disk works fine under Windows
#757 [02:04] <xales> well
#758 [02:04] <Kealper> O.o
#759 [02:04] <xales> the first partition does
#760 [02:04] <Kealper> what filesystem?
#761 [02:04] <bread> create ext4 partition with gparted, then install arch on it?
#762 [02:04] <xales> /dev/sdb1 = NTFS, /dev/sdb2 = ext2/boot, /dev/sdb3 = swap, /dev/sdb4 = ext4/\/
#763 [02:04] <xales> bread, the install CD can do that
#764 [02:04] <xales> with cfdisk
#765 [02:04] <xales> but
#766 [02:04] <xales> it said the drive is 0MB in side
#767 [02:05] <xales> size*
#768 [02:05] <xales> the DRIVE
#769 [02:05] <aetherian> well bye, guys, I must play some sauerbrauten.
#770 [02:05] <xales> ?_?
#771 [02:05] <Kealper> lol i used to host a saurbraten server
#772 [02:05] <aetherian> xales: quit using such small drives then
#773 [02:05] <xales> aetherian: :<
#774 [02:05] <Kealper> lol
#775 [02:05] <xales> TestDummy: How fix 0MB drive :|
#776 [02:05] <bread> xales: cfdisk is stooopid
#777 [02:05] <Kealper> the speed at which people built stuff in my server was a little scary O.o
#778 [02:05] <bread> use GUI partitioner
#779 [02:05] <Lish> Yeah, the vm worked
#780 [02:06] <xales> bread: fdisk -l reports the size
#781 [02:06] <Lish> It took the moron forever to fix it
#782 [02:06] <xales> as 0MB
#783 [02:06] <xales> I think
#784 [02:06] <Lish> but it worked eventually
#785 [02:06] <xales> actually, I don't even know
#786 [02:06] <xales> it's hidden in a `dialog` window
#787 [02:06] <TestDummy> :(
#788 [02:06] * Kealper takes note of vm as duct-tape-esque fix
#788 [02:06] <Lish> I'm sure he had to get data center support for it, but whatever
#789 [02:06] <bread> xales: just try gpartedddd. Reformat the whole sdb
#790 [02:06] <VoxelHead> merki
#791 [02:06] <xales> bread, I have all my data on sdb
#792 [02:06] <bread> well ffuuu
#793 [02:06] <xales> and I have nothing big enough to back it up on
#794 [02:06] <bread> ffuuuuuuuuu
#795 [02:06] <xales> all TV shows, DVD rips, games, et
#796 [02:06] <xales> etc
#797 [02:06] <bread> D:
#798 [02:07] <Kealper> ok so...windows can access it just fine?
#799 [02:07] <xales> and my PSU can't handle another HDD
#800 [02:07] <bread> I'll come over and you can use my 1.5TB external
#801 [02:07] <bread> :3
#802 [02:07] <xales> Kealper: it can access /dev/sdb1 but it has no idea what to do with the rest of the disk
#803 [02:07] <Kealper> but it can access the one that your linux can't?
#804 [02:07] <bread> well reformat the rest of the disk then
#805 [02:07] <xales> I didn't say it can't access it
#806 [02:07] <xales> I didn't try
#807 [02:08] <Kealper> try then lol
#808 [02:08] <xales> I just aborted immediately when I saw 0mb
#809 [02:08] <TestDummy> =/
#810 [02:08] <xales> because before I went to reinstall, I forced a bunch of "DANGER" writes with fsck
#811 [02:08] <xales> D:
#812 [02:08] <Kealper> ._.
#813 [02:08] <bread> xales: boot into systemrescuecd, and see what gparted says about the disc
#814 [02:09] <xales> meh
#815 [02:09] <xales> I can't be bothered to do that now
#816 [02:09] <xales> tomorrow is a good day to do everything!
#817 [02:10] <xales> \o/ procrastination \o/
#818 [02:10] <bread> haha yes!
#819 [02:10] <VoxelHead> say, you're full of organs aren't you? and you wouldn't notice if you were missing a few?
#820 [02:10] <bread> why put off until tomorrow what you can do the next day!
#821 [02:10] <bread> VoxelHead: probably not!
#822 [02:10] <xales> dopeghoti should turn all of VoxelHead's stupid back on
#823 [02:10] <xales> bread would love it :|
#824 [02:11] <xales> bread: people talk to it and think it's a person on a regular basis
#825 [02:11] <xales> D:
#826 [02:11] <xales> "thanks voxelhead" or "voxelhead: (link to whatever I asked them to pastebin)"
#827 [02:13] <bread> hahah
#828 [02:13] <VoxelHead> I'm not giving up... i'll destroy you££%percent£###~.
#829 [02:13] <bread> lolwut!
#830 [02:14] <bread> gonna get some food brb!
#831 [02:14] <bread> \o/
#832 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#833 [02:16] <xales> <.<
#834 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> I would kill somebody if VoxelHead was fully turned back on
#835 [02:16] <xales> :D
#836 [02:16] <xales> I think he's on in ##voxelhead
#837 [02:16] * xales checks
#837 [02:17] <xales> nope :<
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#839 [02:19] <xales> actually, doing some reasearch
#840 [02:19] <xales> either a cylinder group failed on me, or a superblock exploded ._.
#841 [02:20] <Kealper> or...
#842 [02:20] <Kealper> the partition header crap stuff could be like....kaput
#843 [02:20] <xales> no...Windows would have a hissyfit
#844 [02:20] <Kealper> so it reads it as nothing, and you just have tons of gi....oh, yeah
#845 [02:21] <Kealper> forgot that [insert os name of which i'm a fanboy of here] still works
#846 [02:21] <xales> I'd totally screw around with it, except for the fact that important stuff is on that drive :|
#847 [02:21] <Kealper> that's why i won't dual boot my main :/
#848 [02:22] <bread> no food :(
#849 [02:22] <gkx> Hey, I know I know this is the wrong place, but I can't talk on #minecraft
#850 [02:22] <Kealper> ?? irc
#851 [02:22] <gkx> Or actually
#852 [02:22] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#853 [02:22] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#854 [02:22] <gkx> No, actually, not related to that
#855 [02:22] <Kealper> oh
#856 [02:22] <gkx> This might actually be the right place to ask this lol
#857 [02:22] <gkx> Come to think of it.
#858 [02:22] <gkx> It's regarding redstone and repeaters
#859 [02:23] <Kealper> are they just randomly not working?
#860 [02:23] <gkx> Because I know that power can only travel for a certain number of wires, but I'm wondering if repeaters refreshes that
#861 [02:23] <gkx> No
#862 [02:23] <Kealper> yes, they do
#863 [02:23] <Kealper> that's the whole point of a repeater lol
#864 [02:23] <gkx> Not when you're making music :P
#865 [02:24] <gkx> I'm not sure why one configuration was working and not another
#866 [02:24] <Kealper> well, i mean a repeater in general, not when using it as a delay lol
#867 [02:24] <gkx> Right
#868 [02:24] <gkx> lol ok
#869 [02:25] <gkx> Anyways, thanks <3
#870 [02:25] <Kealper> reddit is just plain awesome
#871 [02:26] <Deathconsuming> You just lost the game.
#872 [02:26] <bread> nou
#873 [02:26] <Kealper> i won the game years ago, but i'm not going to say how i did it
#874 [02:27] <Deathconsuming> Nope, everyone here lost it
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#876 [02:28] <archerrbgh> #help
#877 [02:28] <xales> ?
#878 [02:28] <Kealper> gah
#879 [02:28] <Kealper> begone with you, foul noob!
#880 [02:28] <xales> and of course
#881 [02:28] * Freddy [Freddy@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#882 [02:28] <xales> he joins #help and asks a Minecraft question
#883 [02:28] <xales> |:
#884 [02:29] <Kealper> really?
#885 [02:29] <Kealper> oh, that reminds me
#886 [02:29] <xales> 02:28:31 < archerrbgh> hi i just purchased minecraft earlier and got the stand alone launcher
#887 [02:29] <xales> :|
#888 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> okay...
#889 [02:29] <archerrbgh> but the launcher won't run for me
#890 [02:29] <archerrbgh> on mac osx
#891 [02:30] * GreyVulpine coughschmod+xcoughs
#891 [02:30] <xales> indeed
#892 [02:30] <xales> archerrbgh: copy the Minecraft.app to your desktop
#893 [02:30] <xales> then open Terminal in Applications->Utilities
#894 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> there's probably an faq heading for voxel, I just don't know it offhand
#895 [02:30] <Lish> Question
#896 [02:30] <archerrbgh> ok
#897 [02:30] <xales> and type the following: 'chmod -R +x ~/Desktop/Minecraft.app' and hit enter (don't include the ')
#898 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Answer
#899 [02:31] <Lish> Does minecraft server normally run well on x64?
#900 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#901 [02:31] <Lish> I thought so
#902 [02:31] <archerrbgh> is that it?
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#904 [02:31] <xales> archerrbgh: yup
#905 [02:31] <Lish> This guy refuses to believe that it's WS03's fault. :x
#906 [02:31] <archerrbgh> am i only able to run it from my desktop?
#907 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> Nope, putting it on your desktop just makes it easier for xales to give you the right command
#908 [02:32] <bread> OS X users need to lern2cli
#909 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, we'd have to tell you to look for it
#910 [02:32] <archerrbgh> ok
#911 [02:32] <archerrbgh> thanks a lot!
#912 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> Now, the real question, does it work?
#913 [02:32] <archerrbgh> yes it does!
#914 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> Now you can move it anywhere you wish
#915 [02:32] <Chr|s> what is cli?
#916 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> command line interface
#917 [02:33] * Chr|s is jk
#917 [02:33] <bread> :|
#918 [02:33] <xales> |:
#919 [02:33] <bread> -_-
#920 [02:33] <xales> bread: did I teach you :|?
#921 [02:33] <VoxelHead> :-)
#922 [02:33] <bread> xales: I have no idea
#923 [02:33] <bread> lol
#924 [02:33] <xales> TestDummy said the same thing, and started using it shortly after I did :<
#925 [02:33] * archerrbgh [archerrbgh@notlogged] has left #MineCraftHelp
#926 [02:33] <VoxelHead> Mmm archerrbgh.
#927 [02:33] <bread> lol
#928 [02:33] <Chr|s> I accidently typed in digg and I guess it was a command of some sort
#929 [02:33] * xales should stop using 'exotic' faces
#929 [02:33] <Kealper> :| is just a poker face :/
#930 [02:33] <bread> 8D is my favourite
#931 [02:33] <xales> Chr|s: dig is a command, digg isn't
#932 [02:33] <Chr|s> close enough
#933 [02:33] <xales> Kealper: O RLY?
#934 [02:34] <bread> omg you guys
#935 [02:34] <bread> do you know what's awesome
#936 [02:34] <xales> Chr|s: dig = domain information groper
#937 [02:34] <Chr|s> ahh
#938 [02:34] <bread> groper
#939 [02:34] <bread> LOL
#940 [02:34] <Chr|s> lol
#941 [02:34] <xales> bread
#942 [02:34] <xales> `man dig`
#943 [02:34] <xales> ._.
#944 [02:34] <bread> no dude
#945 [02:34] <bread> man man
#946 [02:34] <xales> man woman
#947 [02:34] <xales> :3
#948 [02:34] <bread> ^ single most awesome unix command ever
#949 [02:34] <bread> No manual entry for woman
#950 [02:34] <bread> :3
#951 [02:34] <xales> dig (domain information groper) is a flexible tool for interrogating DNS name servers. It performs DNS lookups and displays the answers that are returned from the name server(s) that were queried. Most DNS administrators use dig to troubleshoot DNS problems because of its flexibility, ease of use and clarity of output. Other lookup tools tend to have less functionality than dig.
#952 [02:35] <bread> oh here's a good one
#953 [02:35] <bread> man touch
#954 [02:35] <AG_Scott> Let's interrogate that bind you got.
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#956 [02:35] <xales> man finger
#957 [02:35] <xales> or
#958 [02:35] <xales> finger bread
#959 [02:35] <xales> 3
#960 [02:35] <xales> :3
#961 [02:35] <bread> man date
#962 [02:35] <bread> man touch
#963 [02:35] <AG_Scott> I'm a bit turned on by all of this.
#964 [02:35] <bread> man mount
#965 [02:35] <xales> lol
#966 [02:35] <Kealper> man man is real..lol
#967 [02:35] <xales> Kealper: of course it is!
#968 [02:36] <bread> and this is the primary reason *NIX > Windows
#969 [02:36] <xales> ^
#970 [02:36] <bread> the fact that you can type absurd things into your CLI, and they actually do stuff
#971 [02:36] <Kealper> lol
#972 [02:36] <TestDummy> xales: Dig is awesome sauce.
#973 [02:36] * xales digs TestDummy with a shovel
#973 [02:36] <bread> No manual entry for xales
#974 [02:36] <bread> :3
#975 [02:36] <TestDummy> NXDOMAIN
#976 [02:36] <Kealper> i can type dig into my windows cli.....do i get a cookie?
#977 [02:37] <bread> can you type
#978 [02:37] <bread> man date
#979 [02:37] <bread> man touch
#980 [02:37] <bread> man mount
#981 [02:37] <bread> man fun
#982 [02:37] <xales> :|
#983 [02:37] <Kealper> 'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command
#984 [02:37] <Kealper> :<
#985 [02:37] <xales> hohoho
#986 [02:37] <bread> :>
#987 [02:37] <xales> [xales@stratos espernet]$ man fun
#988 [02:37] <xales> No manual entry for fun
#989 [02:37] <VoxelHead> :)
#990 [02:37] <bread> pfft I have a manual entry for fun
#991 [02:37] <xales> did you add it?
#992 [02:37] <bread> nope!
#993 [02:37] <VoxelHead> Hurrah.
#994 [02:38] <xales> :o
#995 [02:38] <bread> I think I'll start adding my own man pages
#996 [02:38] <bread> like man babies
#997 [02:38] <xales> |:
#998 [02:38] <xales> go gzcat some manpages
#999 [02:38] <xales> it's not pretty
#1000 [02:38] <bread> /bin/sh: gzcat: command not found
#1001 [02:38] <bread> :p
#1002 [02:39] <xales> install gzcat
#1003 [02:39] <xales> :P
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#1005 [02:39] <xales> or gunzip -c
#1006 [02:39] <bread> cat /usr/man/man1/man.1.gz gives me a whole bunch of k�*X�Z;�5Պ���4N#� lol
#1007 [02:39] <bread> L3
#1008 [02:39] <bread> :3
#1009 [02:39] <bread> yay for 'cat'ing non-plain text files
#1010 [02:40] <Chr|s> man boobs
#1011 [02:40] <xales> try gunzip -c /usr/man/man1/man.1.gz
#1012 [02:40] <bread> Chr|s: No manual entry for boobs :(
#1013 [02:40] <Chr|s> nope :(
#1014 [02:40] <aetherian> this /is/ linux after all
#1015 [02:40] <Kealper> Vox, activate maturity sensors
#1016 [02:40] * VoxelHead checks #minecrafthelp, i think
#1016 [02:40] <VoxelHead> Kealper: That reads as 2913 amps.
#1017 [02:40] <Kealper> that's what i thought.
#1018 [02:41] <xales> Vox, activate derp scanners
#1019 [02:41] <xales> D:
#1020 [02:41] <xales> Vox, eat Kealper
#1021 [02:41] <xales> VoxelHead: eat Kealper
#1022 [02:41] <Kealper> VoxelHead: <3
#1023 [02:41] <xales> =\
#1024 [02:41] <bread> lol VoxelHead
#1025 [02:42] <xales> I just realized
#1026 [02:42] <xales> if it still works
#1027 [02:42] <xales> it could eat bread
#1028 [02:42] <xales> :|
#1029 [02:42] <Kealper> xD
#1030 [02:42] <bread> :O
#1031 [02:42] <Kealper> hmm
#1032 [02:42] <xales> VoxelHead: eat bread
#1033 [02:42] <VoxelHead> oh my
#1034 [02:42] <Kealper> Vox, eat bread
#1035 [02:42] * VoxelHead eats bread
#1035 [02:42] <xales> \o/
#1036 [02:42] <bread> D:
#1037 [02:42] * bread flees
#1037 [02:42] <Kealper> wait so....
#1038 [02:42] <Kealper> why can i still use vox?
#1039 [02:42] <VoxelHead> loneliness
#1040 [02:43] <xales> lol
#1041 [02:43] <aetherian> haha
#1042 [02:43] <Kealper> ;_;
#1043 [02:43] <xales> Vox, eat aetherian
#1044 [02:43] <VoxelHead> Cial_, you man tractor beam, i'll pump the cows full of human sewage
#1045 [02:43] <xales> lolwhat
#1046 [02:43] <aetherian> xales: vox likes me
#1047 [02:43] <Kealper> wut
#1048 [02:43] <aetherian> voxxy, courtmartial xales
#1049 [02:43] * VoxelHead throws xales in the brig to await charges
#1049 [02:43] <aetherian> :3
#1050 [02:43] <bread> bwaha
#1051 [02:43] <xales> why does it not listen to me
#1052 [02:43] <xales> ;_;
#1053 [02:43] <aetherian> my little voxxy <3
#1054 [02:44] <VoxelHead> xales, you are charged with having sex with Dr Crusher, and improper use of the USS Enterprise
#1055 [02:44] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#1056 [02:44] <xales> \o/
#1057 [02:44] <Chr|s> lol
#1058 [02:44] <bread> hahhah
#1059 [02:44] <bread> that was amazing
#1060 [02:44] <xales> at least I didn't have sex with Deep Space One like Kealper
#1061 [02:44] <Kealper> i still think it would be funny as heck to +b them while they are in the brig, and kick them if they are guilty, or -b them if they are innocent
#1062 [02:44] <xales> ;_;
#1063 [02:44] <Kealper> xales: don't hate
#1064 [02:44] <Kealper> lol
#1065 [02:44] <xales> :3
#1066 [02:44] <bread> Kealper: I think that would be great.
#1067 [02:45] <Kealper> dopeghoti!!!
#1068 [02:45] <xales> VOXELHEAD I AM A BOT OWNER FUUUUUUU LISTEN TO ME ASSHOLE
#1069 [02:45] * VoxelHead IS A FUCKING PIECE OF GARBAGE
#1069 [02:45] <bread> :O
#1070 [02:45] <VoxelHead> crumbs
#1071 [02:45] <xales> I did that
#1072 [02:45] <xales> :|
#1073 [02:45] <aetherian> uh oh
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#1075 [02:46] <xales> dumb piece of garbage
#1076 [02:46] <xales> Kealper, what does this mean
#1077 [02:46] <xales> 02:46:09 <xales> .bmotion friendship show
#1078 [02:46] <xales> 02:46:09 <VOxelHead> usage: friendship [show|set]
#1079 [02:46] <xales> :|
#1080 [02:46] <Kealper> i have no idea
#1081 [02:46] <bread> oh man, the wellspring has stopped flowing
#1082 [02:46] <bread> wat do
#1083 [02:46] <Kealper> >.>
#1084 [02:47] <xales> hahahahaha
#1085 [02:47] <xales> 02:46:56 <VOxelHead> Friendship rating for xales is now 100%
#1086 [02:47] <xales> VoxelHead, courtmartial bread!
#1087 [02:47] <aetherian> haha
#1088 [02:47] <xales> dick
#1089 [02:47] <bread> nooo
#1090 [02:47] <aetherian> xales can't vox, eh?
#1091 [02:47] <aetherian> say...
#1092 [02:48] <aetherian> if someone uses linux without actually getting how it works, does that make that person a script kiddy with the "script" being linux?
#1093 [02:48] <bread> aetherian: 90% of Ubuntu users
#1094 [02:48] <Kealper> lol
#1095 [02:48] <aetherian> I didn't ask how many people
#1096 [02:48] <aetherian> I just asked if it made them that
#1097 [02:48] <bread> I'm just sayin :3
#1098 [02:48] <bread> and yes
#1099 [02:48] <bread> I think so
#1100 [02:48] <aetherian> oh well
#1101 [02:48] <aetherian> it's still better than windows :3
#1102 [02:49] <bread> true.
#1103 [02:49] <Kealper> meh
#1104 [02:49] <aetherian> haha
#1105 [02:49] <bread> but it's kinda like OS X of the Linux world
#1106 [02:49] <VoxelHead> more power... give me MORE POWER$£@!$~!£%percent%percent^#!!!£
#1107 [02:49] * aetherian pats Kealper on the back
#1107 [02:49] * bread wants to be courtmartialed
#1107 [02:49] * bread has done bad bad things
#1107 [02:49] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial bread for bad things
#1108 [02:50] <VoxelHead> Who?
#1109 [02:50] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial bread
#1110 [02:50] * VoxelHead throws bread in the brig to await charges
#1110 [02:50] <bread> :D
#1111 [02:50] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1112 [02:50] <bread> :o
#1113 [02:50] <Kealper> lol
#1114 [02:50] <aetherian> lol
#1115 [02:50] <VoxelHead> well slap my ass and call me VoxelHead
#1116 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1117 [02:50] <bread> I lol'd
#1118 [02:50] <xales> hahaha
#1119 [02:50] <xales> 02:50:03 <VOxelHead> I AM VOXELHEAD! I'm powered by bMotion 0.1.0+svn. I'm male and this week I have mostly been bi.
#1120 [02:50] <xales> 02:50:04 <VOxelHead> My botnicks are currently /(VoxelHead|v|vox|voxel|voxie|voxxy) ?/.
#1121 [02:50] <VoxelHead> bread, you are charged with having sex on a shuttle, and setting fire to a Black Hole
#1122 [02:50] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to polish Captain Picard's head. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#1123 [02:50] <xales> 02:50:04 <VOxelHead> I'm currently awake and my next bedtime is Fri Mar 18 01:05:00 MST 2011.
#1124 [02:50] <bread> LOL
#1125 [02:50] <bread> SETTING FIRE TO A BLACK HOLE
#1126 [02:50] <bread> oh shit I'm awesome
#1127 [02:51] <aetherian> I was the one who asked for voxxy <3
#1128 [02:51] * bread polishes Captian Picard's head
#1128 [02:51] <xales> Voxxy, fuck you
#1129 [02:51] <xales> :|
#1130 [02:51] <xales> Voxxy, courtmartial aetherian
#1131 [02:51] * xales pouts
#1131 [02:51] <aetherian> voxxy, courtmartial xales
#1132 [02:51] <aetherian> again
#1133 [02:51] * VoxelHead throws xales in the brig to await charges my precious
#1133 [02:52] <bread> :3
#1134 [02:52] <xales> derp
#1135 [02:52] <xales> that won't work again
#1136 [02:52] <xales> \o/
#1137 [02:52] <bread> /o\
#1138 [02:52] <VoxelHead> Xales, you are charged with gross incompetence, and improper conduct with the USS Enterspace.
#1139 [02:52] <xales> :D
#1140 [02:52] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#1141 [02:52] <xales> :D
#1142 [02:52] <aetherian> lmao
#1143 [02:52] <xales> try now aetherian
#1144 [02:52] <aetherian> it did work though
#1145 [02:52] <xales> hehe
#1146 [02:52] <aetherian> VoxelHead, courtmartial xales
#1147 [02:53] <xales> \o/
#1148 [02:53] <aetherian> ;_;
#1149 [02:53] <xales> lol
#1150 [02:53] <bread> \o/
#1151 [02:53] <bread> /o\
#1152 [02:53] <aetherian> xales, what DE do you use
#1153 [02:54] <bread> sooper dooper pooper scooper
#1154 [02:54] <aetherian> .o.
#1155 [02:54] <bread> what DE does Arch come with? :o
#1156 [02:54] <Kealper> none
#1157 [02:55] <aetherian> I don't think it comes with any?
#1158 [02:55] <bread> oh
#1159 [02:55] <bread> lol
#1160 [02:55] <bread> never used it :3
#1161 [02:55] <Kealper> totally CLI
#1162 [02:55] <aetherian> oh xaley-goo
#1163 [02:55] <aetherian> where are yoo
#1164 [02:55] <bread> if I was gonna use Arch, I'd use Archbang
#1165 [02:55] <aetherian> I think that gnome is bloated...
#1166 [02:56] <aetherian> as is KDE, ofc
#1167 [02:56] <bread> LOL according to Wikipedia, Arch's default user interface is 'bash'
#1168 [02:56] <bread> and yes KDE is massive
#1169 [02:56] <bread> I don't like KDE in the slightest
#1170 [02:56] <aetherian> xales answer meh D:<
#1171 [02:56] <xales> aetherian: I use the bread WM
#1172 [02:56] <xales> \o/
#1173 [02:56] <bread> :D
#1174 [02:56] <VoxelHead> :)
#1175 [02:56] <bread> best WM ever
#1176 [02:57] <aetherian> OMNOMNOM
#1177 [02:57] <bread> even VoxelHead agrees
#1178 [02:57] <aetherian> tasty too
#1179 [02:57] <bread> :3
#1180 [02:57] <aetherian> really though xalus
#1181 [02:57] <xales> !bminfo
#1182 [02:57] <xales> !bmstats
#1183 [02:57] <xales> :<
#1184 [02:57] <xales> !bmadmin
#1185 [02:57] <xales> D:
#1186 [02:57] <aetherian> !8ball does xales fail it with irc bots
#1187 [02:57] <aetherian> (!8ball do I as well)
#1188 [02:57] <xales> !mood
#1189 [02:57] <xales> :|
#1190 [02:57] <aetherian> ...it's not on >.>
#1191 [02:57] <VoxelHead> xales: Please use .bmotion VoxelHead mood
#1192 [02:58] <xales> hahaha
#1193 [02:58] <xales> FINALLY
#1194 [02:58] <aetherian> .help
#1195 [02:58] <xales> those commands only work on the partyline
#1196 [02:58] <xales> :D
#1197 [02:58] <bread> .turtles
#1198 [02:58] <bread> ./xales.sh
#1199 [02:58] <Kealper> partyline you say....
#1200 [02:58] <aetherian> wait wait
#1201 [02:58] <aetherian> I dun' get it
#1202 [02:58] <bread> butt weigh
#1203 [02:58] <bread> t
#1204 [02:59] <aetherian> how on earth to I uninstall things from the terminal o.o
#1205 [02:59] * aetherian goes back to google. again.
#1205 [02:59] <xales> depends on distro
#1206 [02:59] <xales> :P
#1207 [02:59] <aetherian> debian based, ofc
#1208 [02:59] <xales> aptitude remove derp
#1209 [02:59] <Jerub> aetherian: apt-get remove <packagename>
#1210 [02:59] <bread> sudo apt-get remove
#1211 [03:00] * bread is going to install Debian kfreebsd on my external
#1211 [03:00] <bread> er
#1212 [03:00] <bread> /me fail
#1213 [03:00] <bread> lol
#1214 [03:01] <aetherian> argh
#1215 [03:01] <VoxelHead> [parse] courtmartial aetherian
#1216 [03:01] <xales> :|
#1217 [03:01] <aetherian> I keep writing apt0get all the time instead of apt-get
#1218 [03:01] <xales> dummy, I didn't mean that
#1219 [03:01] <aetherian> and that was fail
#1220 [03:01] <bread> lol 0
#1221 [03:02] <aetherian> I want to install debian on my machine... I'll get around to it someday :|
#1222 [03:02] <Kealper> xales: how2stop dcc chat on irssi
#1223 [03:02] <Kealper> will just /wc'ing it work?
#1224 [03:02] <xales> with a bot? easiest to use .quit
#1225 [03:02] <xales> /wc should do it
#1226 [03:03] <Kealper> imma find out then
#1227 [03:03] <xales> otherwise, /DCC CLOSE CHAT (target)
#1228 [03:03] <xales> example
#1229 [03:03] <xales> /DCC CLOSE CHAT VoxelHead
#1230 [03:03] <Kealper> yeah, /wc does it
#1231 [03:03] <aetherian> OKAY THEN GOODNIGHT GUYS
#1232 [03:03] <Kealper> time to make a bnc thing for telnet
#1233 [03:03] <xales> lol
#1234 [03:03] <xales> what good will that do
#1235 [03:03] <Kealper> to keep the connection actually like..established if no one talks for a while
#1236 [03:04] <bread> \o
#1237 [03:04] <bread> o/
#1238 [03:04] <Kealper> telnet doesn't have pings to keep a connection active :/
#1239 [03:04] <xales> that's a software-level concept
#1240 [03:04] <xales> it won't shut it down because it's inactive
#1241 [03:04] <Kealper> which is why imma make it
#1242 [03:04] <xales> at least, not sane things. Windows might
#1243 [03:05] <Kealper> if a connection is totally inactive for a certain lenght of time, the router will usually consider it dead and kill it
#1244 [03:05] <xales> mine doesn't do that :P
#1245 [03:06] <AG_Scott> Mine does :/
#1246 [03:06] <Kealper> meh, it might just have it set super high for yours
#1247 [03:06] <AG_Scott> i have standard dd-wrt install
#1248 [03:06] <Kealper> all routers have tcp and udp timeouts
#1249 [03:06] <xales> I do everything on my server
#1250 [03:06] <Kealper> bah lol
#1251 [03:06] <xales> which is connected to a Cisco appliance firewall, and in turn connected to a Cisco switch
#1252 [03:06] <xales> so derp
#1253 [03:06] <Kealper> telnet to vox from your home machine and keep it open over night, then type something, it will instantly say you got DCed
#1254 [03:06] <xales> O RLY
#1255 [03:07] <Kealper> oh joy
#1256 [03:08] <xales> ?
#1257 [03:08] <Kealper> i still have my simple proxy thing
#1258 [03:08] <Kealper> means that just saved me some time lol
#1259 [03:08] <xales> lol
#1260 [03:08] <xales> oh, Kealper, another cool Linux feature that will annoy you
#1261 [03:08] <xales> RX bytes:1303108709 (1242.7 Mb) TX bytes:242057335 (230.8 Mb)
#1262 [03:08] <xales> ^ifconfig
#1263 [03:08] <Kealper> yeah, i've known about ifconfig lol
#1264 [03:09] * Kealper telnets to his router
#1264 [03:09] <xales> :D
#1265 [03:09] <Kealper> RX bytes:2876271173 (2.6 GiB) TX bytes:3934017358 (3.6 GiB)
#1266 [03:10] <Kealper> 02:09:54 up 17 days, 12:37, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
#1267 [03:10] <xales> that's interesting
#1268 [03:10] <Kealper> meh
#1269 [03:10] <xales> yours is in GiB but mine is MB
#1270 [03:10] <xales> O_O
#1271 [03:10] <Kealper> what is your router running?
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#1274 [03:11] <blabagas> hello
#1275 [03:11] <xales> hi
#1276 [03:11] <Kealper> mine is running dd-wrt v24-sp2 micro
#1277 [03:11] <blabagas> where could I get help for WoM Client?
#1278 [03:11] <xales> Kealper: that was from my server? :|
#1279 [03:11] <xales> blabagas: #wom
#1280 [03:11] <Kealper> oh..that was my router....lol
#1281 [03:12] <blabagas> thanks Xales
#1282 [03:12] <Kealper> hmm...i wonder what kernel dd-wrt is based off
#1283 [03:13] <xales> linux?
#1284 [03:13] <xales> :P
#1285 [03:13] <Kealper> nowai
#1286 [03:13] <Kealper> lol
#1287 [03:13] <Kealper> well
#1288 [03:13] <Kealper> what distro is what i meant
#1289 [03:13] <Kealper> also...wanna see the most retarded thing ever?
#1290 [03:13] <xales> I think it's not based on any distro's kernel changes?
#1291 [03:13] <xales> :P
#1292 [03:14] <bread> lol
#1293 [03:14] <Kealper> !router uptime
#1294 [03:14] * bread uses linux kernel
#1294 [03:14] <blabagas> hmm darn no-one seems to be answering
#1295 [03:14] <Kealper> !unload mod_router
#1296 [03:14] <Kealper> and just forget you saw that...lol
#1297 [03:15] <Kealper> doing !router ps or !router ifconfig is a good way to get it flooded off the network >.>
#1298 [03:15] <blabagas> is there anywhere else I could go xales?
#1299 [03:15] <bread> my hous
#1300 [03:15] <xales> nope
#1301 [03:15] <bread> e
#1302 [03:15] <blabagas> hmm darm
#1303 [03:15] <blabagas> darn*
#1304 [03:16] <blabagas> I suppose ill have to resort to forums
#1305 [03:18] <Kealper> hmm...i wonder if just sending a null would work for a keepalive packet
#1306 [03:19] <xales> I think sending a null will bother the bot
#1307 [03:19] <Kealper> hmm....
#1308 [03:19] <Kealper> i doubt it would bother it, that'd be a pretty big hole
#1309 [03:19] <Kealper> but it is string based, so it might not like it much
#1310 [03:19] <Jerub> Kealper: depends on the protocol the bot listens on .
#1311 [03:19] <xales> it may however, break any command entered after the null
#1312 [03:20] <Kealper> Jerub: raw telnet
#1313 [03:20] <Jerub> Kealper: i love how you think that's an answer to my question.
#1314 [03:20] <Kealper> xales: yeah, that's what i'm wondering about
#1315 [03:20] <xales> "raw telnet" is an oxymoron
#1316 [03:20] <Kealper> shh
#1317 [03:20] <xales> :3
#1318 [03:20] <bread> cooked telnet
#1319 [03:21] <Jerub> i'm guessing you actually mean a text encoded synchronous \r\n terminated protocol.
#1320 [03:21] <Kealper> thanks for that. would you like some /kick with your smug?
#1321 [03:22] <xales> Jerub: telnet really is a protocol, and it really is what the bot uses
#1322 [03:23] <Kealper> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc854
#1323 [03:23] <Kealper> now then
#1324 [03:23] <Jerub> oh, if that's the case, send the AYT message.
#1325 [03:23] <Jerub> or NOP
#1326 [03:24] <Jerub> NOP is probably actually better
#1327 [03:24] <bread> negligent, or pants
#1328 [03:24] <bread> oh wait this isn't #acro
#1329 [03:24] <bread> :3
#1330 [03:24] <Kealper> lol
#1331 [03:24] <Jerub> that way if your remote host goes away you'll get a socket teardown much more quickly.
#1332 [03:25] <Kealper> i'd send control chars but they might just end up sitting in it's buffer and start screwing with commands or chat messages
#1333 [03:25] <Jerub> that's only if it's not a telnet server.
#1334 [03:25] <Kealper> i have no idea how they have that implemented
#1335 [03:25] <Jerub> I thought you said it spoke telnet
#1336 [03:25] <Kealper> i can't confirm if it speaks it fluently...
#1337 [03:25] <xales> It does not fully implement the standard
#1338 [03:25] <xales> Pretty much nothing does
#1339 [03:26] <Jerub> except, you know, telnet servers.
#1340 [03:26] <xales> Most telnet servers are no a complete implementation
#1341 [03:26] <xales> Ever looked at one? :|
#1342 [03:26] <Jerub> i think you've actually got a \r\n terminated text encoded line based server, not a telnet server.
#1343 [03:27] <Jerub> and you're using telnet as a client because it talks to that kind of server really well.
#1344 [03:27] <xales> It does actually negotiate echoing and such via the telnet protocol
#1345 [03:27] <Jerub> really? that's quite neat then :)
#1346 [03:28] <Kealper> i don't think Jerub knows what "telnet server" we're referring to :/
#1347 [03:29] <Jerub> nope. i don't. i am, however, a software engineer and i specialise in networks, so i come across startling misconceptions about networks far too often. :(
#1348 [03:29] <xales> excerpt from bot source:
#1349 [03:29] <xales> 72 /* This is not a universal telnet detector. You need to send WILL STATUS to the
#1350 [03:29] <xales> 73 * other side and pass the reply to this function. A telnet client will respond
#1351 [03:29] <xales> 74 * to this with either DO or DONT STATUS.
#1352 [03:29] <xales> 75 */
#1353 [03:29] <Jerub> xales: fun.
#1354 [03:30] <xales> isn't it?
#1355 [03:30] <Jerub> xales: that's probably the third program i've seen outside of telnetd that actually does proper telnet negotitation.
#1356 [03:30] <Jerub> s/ proper//
#1357 [03:30] <Jerub> (that's not a slur on your bot, i just had a flashback to the code i was thinking of)
#1358 [03:30] <Kealper> TCPSend($Sock, " " & Chr(8)) <-- my ghetto ping
#1359 [03:31] <xales> Kealper
#1360 [03:31] <xales> 136 } else if (*p == TLN_AYT) {
#1361 [03:31] <xales> 137 /* "Are You There?" */
#1362 [03:31] <xales> 138 /* response is: "Hell, yes!" */
#1363 [03:31] <xales> 139 write(sock, "\r\nHell, yes!\r\n", 14);
#1364 [03:31] <Jerub> xales: hah, awesome.
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#1366 [03:32] <xales> Kealper: AYT should work, I reccomend that. Make sure to gobble the response though
#1367 [03:33] <Kealper> ugh...that means actually making this parse stuff before passing it on :/
#1368 [03:33] <xales> :P
#1369 [03:33] <xales> you know you'll do it eventually
#1370 [03:33] <Kealper> meh
#1371 [03:33] <xales> and turn it into a silly GUI thing that shows botnet clients in a nicklist like IRC
#1372 [03:34] <Kealper> i silently die a little inside each time i have to make a GUI client for anything
#1373 [03:34] <xales> then why keep doing it? :P
#1374 [03:34] <Kealper> i try to stay away from GUI crap as much as possible :/
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#1376 [03:34] <xales> why do you use AutoIt then? It's practically a GUI language
#1377 [03:35] <Kealper> because i can get a working headless proxy done in a few lines :/
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#1379 [03:35] <VoxelHead> Proxyless head.
#1380 [03:35] <Kealper> >.>
#1381 [03:35] <xales> owned
#1382 [03:35] <xales> anyway
#1383 [03:35] * xales is off to bed!
#1383 [03:35] <Kealper> bed is for the weak
#1384 [03:35] <xales> :<
#1385 [03:36] <bread> nooooo
#1386 [03:36] <bread> what is sleep
#1387 [03:36] <bread> xales r square
#1388 [03:36] <bread> :3
#1389 [03:36] <bread> ( ｡ ヮﾟ)
#1390 [03:36] <Kealper> bread is for the weak >:D
#1391 [03:37] <bread> щ(ﾟДﾟщ)
#1392 [03:37] <xales> lukegb: :<
#1393 [03:37] <bread> xales o/
#1394 [03:37] <bread> \o
#1395 [03:37] <Kealper> o/
#1396 [03:37] <xales> \o
#1397 [03:37] * xales goes
#1397 [03:37] <bread> byeee
#1398 [03:37] <Kealper> cya lol
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#1400 [03:44] <VoxelHead> byebye
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#1402 [04:06] <VoxelHead> *yawns*
#1403 [04:06] <VoxelHead> bedtime for VoxelHead soon i think
#1404 [04:06] <bread> lol
#1405 [04:06] <Kealper> bye VoxelHead :<
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#1407 [04:06] <Kealper> that bmotion plugin thing for vox is so epicly awesome when it's all running
#1408 [04:08] <AG_Scott> nutterbot is nutter.
#1409 [04:10] <Kealper> hmmmm....ms telnet client...y u no accept IAC char
#1410 [04:14] <Kealper> helps if i was actually sending it right
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#1425 [05:32] <aCreeper> sssssssss
#1426 [05:32] * aCreeper explodes
#1426 [05:33] <bread> ffffffuuuuuuuuuuu
#1427 [05:34] <bread> my house! :(
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#1429 [05:34] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Hiyo?
#1430 [05:34] <bread> mibbit. :|
#1431 [05:34] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Mirb.
#1432 [05:35] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Anyone know how to setup a server? I can't seem to get it to work >.<
#1433 [05:36] <bread> um. It's quite simple actually.
#1434 [05:36] <bread> 1) Run the server program
#1435 [05:36] <bread> 2) The end
#1436 [05:37] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Yeeeah noooo. If that were the case, I wouldn't be here :P
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#1439 [05:38] <bread> Well, it is that simple, as that's how I did it, and it worked just fine.
#1440 [05:38] * Kealper sighs
#1440 [05:38] <bread> Also, it's impossible to help you, with such vague information.
#1441 [05:38] <Kealper> Tobias_Nightbringer: what part are you having problems with?
#1442 [05:38] <Zemedelphos> Did you forward your ports?
#1443 [05:40] <Tobias_Nightbringer> There is a computer on the same internet connection as the computer running the server. The client computer cannot connect to the server but the server computer can connect.
#1444 [05:40] <Kealper> did you touch anythong inside server.properties?
#1445 [05:40] <Kealper> anything*
#1446 [05:40] <Kealper> anythongs ftw?
#1447 [05:40] <bread> anythong
#1448 [05:40] <bread> \o/
#1449 [05:40] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Good ol' anythongs :D
#1450 [05:41] <Tobias_Nightbringer> But no, I didn't touch anythong.
#1451 [05:41] <Tobias_Nightbringer> And yes to forwarding my ports.
#1452 [05:41] <bread> Also, unless otherwise specified, the server uses port 25565
#1453 [05:41] <Kealper> ok, what ip are you using to connect on the server machine?
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#1455 [05:42] <Kealper> and with the client computer, what ip were you using?
#1456 [05:42] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Yeah, didn't change the port number so left it at 25565.
#1457 [05:43] <Tobias_Nightbringer> And the IP I used for the server machine is the IPv4 address that I saw when I typed ipconfig in the cmd window.
#1458 [05:43] <Kealper> and which one would that be?
#1459 [05:43] <Kealper> did it start with 127?
#1460 [05:43] <Tobias_Nightbringer> However I tried using BOTH the IPv4 address AND the public IP address on the client computer and both didn't work.
#1461 [05:43] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Ipv4 =
#1462 [05:43] <Tobias_Nightbringer> 192.168.2.6
#1463 [05:44] <Kealper> and technically, both your external and internal addresses would be IPv4 lol
#1464 [05:44] <Kealper> hmm...
#1465 [05:44] <Kealper> any firewalls or such on the server box?
#1466 [05:45] <Tobias_Nightbringer> I'm fairly dumb as rocks...or as smart as dirt sadly >.> Anyway, nope no firewalls.
#1467 [05:45] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Oh right, sorry; forgot to mention I do have a router.
#1468 [05:45] <bread> lol
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#1470 [05:46] <Kealper> and you are sure that port 25565 is forwarded to 192.168.2.6?
#1471 [05:46] <Kealper> also..to make sure i understand this correctly...
#1472 [05:47] <Kealper> you can connect to 192.168.2.6 on the server itself, but when using a different computer on your network, you are unable to connect to 192.168.2.6?
#1473 [05:47] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Correct.
#1474 [05:48] <Kealper> definately sounds like there is some firewall software installed on the server computer then
#1475 [05:48] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Hmm, will double check.
#1476 [05:49] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Testing.
#1477 [05:49] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Test test test.
#1478 [05:49] <Kealper> do you have something like an antivirus suite installed? those are usually the culprit, since they are antivirus, firewall, and antimalware in one
#1479 [05:50] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Belkin...you lie to me. I am still connected to the internet! >.> *mumble grumble*
#1480 [05:50] <Kealper> o.o
#1481 [05:50] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Fiddling with stuff, don't mind me. And no antivirus suite installed.
#1482 [05:52] <Kealper> hmm....
#1483 [05:53] <Kealper> have you tried disabling windows firewall?
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#1485 [05:55] <Tobias_Nightbringer> It's already disabled.
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#1487 [05:57] <Kealper> hmmmm.....
#1488 [05:57] <Kealper> ever heard of TeamViewer? lol
#1489 [05:57] <Tobias_Nightbringer> I GOT IT!
#1490 [05:57] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Vw00T!
#1491 [05:57] <Tobias_Nightbringer> RAAAAAAAAAAWR
#1492 [05:57] <Kealper> O.o
#1493 [05:58] <Tobias_Nightbringer> MAN that took a retardedly long time >.<
#1494 [05:58] <Kealper> type !check in here if you want to make sure it can accept connections
#1495 [05:58] <Tobias_Nightbringer> !check
#1496 [05:58] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Thank you AuBot! Whatever the Hell you just did.
#1497 [05:58] <Kealper> xD
#1498 [05:58] <Tobias_Nightbringer> ...did you just respond to me, AuBot?
#1499 [05:58] <Kealper> lol
#1500 [05:59] <bread> lol what does !check do :o
#1501 [05:59] <Kealper> grabs the sender's hostname from the packet, resolves it to an ip, then tries to connect on port 25565
#1502 [05:59] <bread> well that's fun!
#1503 [05:59] <bread> !check
#1504 [05:59] <bread> :o
#1505 [05:59] <bread> port 25565 is forwarded!
#1506 [06:00] <Kealper> something has to be running to accept the connection
#1507 [06:00] <Kealper> so your server has to be on
#1508 [06:00] <Kealper> you can also specify a hostname/ip and port
#1509 [06:00] <Kealper> like !check smp.shadow-craft.net or !check google.com:80
#1510 [06:00] <bread> oh
#1511 [06:01] <bread> lol
#1512 [06:01] <bread> well the server isn't running :p
#1513 [06:04] <Kealper> also...as a random thing....aubot looks for "thank" and "aubot" inside the same sentence, and then responds with the message that you'll see like half a sec after this gets sent :P
#1514 [06:04] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Thanks for the help, Kealper! Now I just need to figure out how to start putting in commands and programming and such.
#1515 [06:04] * Kealper headtilts
#1515 [06:04] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Lol oh AuBot. How I love you.
#1516 [06:04] <Kealper> i should add that
#1517 [06:05] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Well, my g/f and I WERE playing on a server which made...*sees AuBot respond* okay now it's just getting weird. OKAY! So anyway, we were playing on a server where Creepers did nothing.
#1518 [06:05] <Tobias_Nightbringer> My server is obviously vanilla.
#1519 [06:05] <Kealper> that would be a plugin for a mod called Bukkit
#1520 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, worldguard, for bukkit
#1521 [06:06] <Tobias_Nightbringer> No idea what that means but okay! :D I can probably figure it out. Ever heard of a program called MCAdmin?
#1522 [06:06] <Kealper> eew
#1523 [06:07] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Lol no bueno?
#1524 [06:07] <Kealper> yes, and if you value your server's safety, it's probably better to not use that :/
#1525 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Worldguard is a plugin, gives additional functionality, like limiting creeper's explosioins
#1526 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/sec-worldguard-4-0-alpha1-area-protection-blacklist-anti-fire-news-about-4-0-final-inside.790/
#1527 [06:07] <Tobias_Nightbringer> People can log on easily and grief it? Or why exactly do you say that?
#1528 [06:08] <Kealper> there was already a thing a few months ago where the creator of MCAdmin got in real hot water when everyone found out that he had the ability to shut down people's servers and ban them from their own server if he wanted
#1529 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/dxm6h/apparently_dont_use_mcadmin/
#1530 [06:08] <Kealper> and that was just the stuff people found out about...who knows how many other backdoors he has put in it for himself
#1531 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> supposedly it's open source now
#1532 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> But it's gotten a strong negative repuation now
#1533 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> reputation*
#1534 [06:10] <Kealper> after that...i still wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole...even if it is open source
#1535 [06:11] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Good thing I am a retard when it comes to figuring out how to open a server and stuff XD Thanks for the heads up. But still, couldn't you just put the world that was created on the MCAdmin server into the regular Minecraft_Server.exe and he wouldn't be able to do anything?
#1536 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> MCAdmin is a server wrapper basically. It wraps around the base minecraft binary, and gives it more functions.
#1537 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> With that though, with the incident, it also allowed the programmer of MCadmin to go onto your server as an admin.. with administrative rights
#1538 [06:13] <Kealper> !reload mod_bot
#1539 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> The guy was on a power trip or something.. hopped onto this server that was running MCAdmin, server owner asked who he was, banned him.
#1540 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> programmer of MCadmin unbanned himself, got on, banned the admin of the server from his own server.
#1541 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> drama ensued.
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#1543 [06:15] <Kealper> hmm...i should also make AuBot respond to <3 too...so people go like wut? if they do AuBot: <3
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#1545 [06:16] <Kealper> !reload mod_bot
#1546 [06:16] <Kealper> right then
#1547 [06:16] <Kealper> AuBot: <3
#1548 [06:18] <Tobias_Nightbringer> <3
#1549 [06:19] <Tobias_Nightbringer> And thanks for the info about MCAdmin. What a rat bastard that person was.
#1550 [06:19] <Tobias_Nightbringer> AuBot <3
#1551 [06:19] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Lawl
#1552 [06:19] <BarryCarlyon> mcadmin has a backdoor? boo
#1553 [06:22] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Had apparently. But still most people do not have it.
#1554 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> It did..
#1555 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> But it's gotten such a bad rep, that people stay away from it once they know the full story
#1556 [06:23] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Hell, all they need to hear is "MCAdmin gives you a backdoor" and that is enough for people to stay away usually.
#1557 [06:24] <Kealper> AuBot is so cool now :o
#1558 [06:25] <Kealper> or not....
#1559 [06:25] <Kealper> stupid failbot lol
#1560 [06:25] <Kealper> methinks i might have some Ands where some Ors are supposed to go on that one
#1561 [06:25] <Tobias_Nightbringer> So I assume most good servers require you to register and stuff on a website/forum thread that to get whitelisted or whatever it's called to enjoy the server entirely.
#1562 [06:25] <Kealper> usually
#1563 [06:25] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Lol having fun modding AuBot?
#1564 [06:25] <Kealper> bah
#1565 [06:26] <Kealper> when it works
#1566 [06:26] <Kealper> AuBot you can start being awesome again any time now
#1567 [06:27] <Zemedelphos> AuBot <3
#1568 [06:27] <Kealper> there we go
#1569 [06:27] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Lol AuBot we <3 you.
#1570 [06:27] <Zemedelphos> New sitcome: Everybody <3 AuBot
#1571 [06:27] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Hmm, thanks AuBot for being awesome. We <3 you.
#1572 [06:27] <Zemedelphos> oops, extra e
#1573 [06:27] <Kealper> you can say everybody loves aubot too
#1574 [06:27] <Kealper> or not...
#1575 [06:27] <Kealper> screw you, bot
#1576 [06:27] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Lol
#1577 [06:27] <Kealper> actually...that's rather weird....
#1578 [06:28] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Thanks aubot
#1579 [06:28] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Thanks Aubot <3
#1580 [06:28] <Zemedelphos> Loves AuBot
#1581 [06:28] <Kealper> to the codemobile!
#1582 [06:28] <Zemedelphos> It doesn't recognize Loves
#1583 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> bwah
#1584 [06:28] <Kealper> !unload mod_bot
#1585 [06:28] <Tobias_Nightbringer> It can't love us back AND say you're welcome XD
#1586 [06:28] <Zemedelphos> It's a bot, it doesn't know how to love, just to simulate it.
#1587 [06:29] <Zemedelphos> :(
#1588 [06:29] <Kealper> :<
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#1591 [06:30] <dracostone5> how do i register
#1592 [06:31] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Lol, good enough for me!
#1593 [06:31] <dracostone5> like whats the excact command
#1594 [06:31] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Register what?
#1595 [06:31] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Your name here?
#1596 [06:31] <dracostone5> for the minecraft irc
#1597 [06:31] <dracostone5> my name
#1598 [06:31] <Kealper> ?? irc
#1599 [06:31] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1600 [06:31] <Tobias_Nightbringer> Well, seeing as how you can chat now, you already did.
#1601 [06:31] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1602 [06:31] <dracostone5> internet relay chat
#1603 [06:31] <dracostone5> thank you voxel
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#1605 [06:32] <Kealper> i love it how everyone thinks vox is a person lol
#1606 [06:32] <Zemedelphos> Lol
#1607 [06:32] <Zemedelphos> Well, it doesn't have "bot" in the name
#1608 [06:33] <Zemedelphos> Hai Person called Au.
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#1610 [06:35] <Kealper> DO NOT TRY TO JOIN THIS CHANNEL I AM ABOUT TO MAKE AUBOT JOIN
#1611 [06:35] <Kealper> .join 0
#1612 [06:35] <Kealper> y u no join channel 0 >.>
#1613 [06:35] <Zemedelphos> Moi?
#1614 [06:35] <BarryCarlyon> Forever alone.
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#1617 [06:36] <Kealper> right then
#1618 [06:37] <Kealper> i have no idea what channel it was in that had +M on...but meh
#1619 [06:38] <Kealper> also...irc protip: if someone tells you to join channel 0...don't.
#1620 [06:40] <Zemedelphos> I know
#1621 [06:40] <Zemedelphos> It's a disconnect
#1622 [06:40] <Zemedelphos> Back in the day, channel names were numbers, yes?
#1623 [06:42] <Kealper> si
#1624 [06:42] <Kealper> and channel 0 was the null channel
#1625 [06:43] <Kealper> it won't disconnect you, but it parts you from all channels you are in
#1626 [06:44] <Zemedelphos> Right
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#1628 [06:45] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
#1629 [06:46] <Kealper> i hate you AuBot
#1630 [06:46] <Kealper> ok then
#1631 [06:46] <Kealper> works
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#1633 [06:48] <Zemedelphos> Don't worry AuBot, I love you.
#1634 [06:48] <Kealper> i like those ISPs who don't change the binary IP into decimals lol
#1635 [06:49] <Kealper> anywho....i'm off to bed for a few hours before i have to be up again
#1636 [06:50] <Zemedelphos> Night
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#1639 [07:09] <BarryCarlyon> I both love and hate AuBot....
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#1646 [08:41] <lukegb> I like AuBot
#1647 [08:41] <lukegb> I hate and love AuBot
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#1649 [08:45] <Shadow386> I forget who made AuBot
#1650 [08:46] <Zemedelphos> You did
#1651 [08:46] <Shadow386> I wish
#1652 [08:47] <Shadow386> I want his script
#1653 [08:50] <Zemedelphos> You ARE his script!
#1654 [08:51] <Shadow386> FUUUUUU
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#1660 [09:23] <claude> Can I please get help whit an server issiue
#1661 [09:23] <oldtopman> ?? ash
#1662 [09:23] <oldtopman> ?? ask
#1663 [09:23] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1664 [09:23] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1665 [09:23] * oldtopman needs to wake up
#1665 [09:24] <Shadow386> waking up is for the weak
#1666 [09:24] <Shadow386> real men SLEEP
#1667 [09:24] <helmer> What dod I do after I dobble clickt the Minecraft_Server
#1668 [09:24] <Shadow386> does a window pop up?
#1669 [09:24] <helmer> I getting a page that is loading and a train is going from right to left.
#1670 [09:25] <helmer> I want to play this game whit my brother.
#1671 [09:25] <Shadow386> Its not loading, it means the server is up
#1672 [09:25] <Shadow386> First off, how old are you and what are the specs of your computer and how old is your brother?
#1673 [09:25] <Shadow386> Also, is he in your house or outside trying to connect in?
#1674 [09:26] <helmer> lol 27 and 37 years. Why?
#1675 [09:26] <Shadow386> :x nothing, just your grammar seemed a little off
#1676 [09:26] <oldtopman> helmer: did you get the setver from minecraft.net?
#1677 [09:26] <helmer> I am not from America so I have no feer typing some words right.
#1678 [09:27] <helmer> Yes,.
#1679 [09:27] <Shadow386> No problem
#1680 [09:27] <Shadow386> Lets see, do you have port 25565 open in your firewall?
#1681 [09:27] <oldtopman> When you double-click the .jar, you get a train?
#1682 [09:27] <helmer> Its like the server is up butt have no clue were the game window are.
#1683 [09:27] <Shadow386> oldtopman i think he meant the bar of the usage
#1684 [09:27] <Shadow386> the server is seperate software from the game
#1685 [09:28] <oldtopman> ah then.
#1686 [09:28] <helmer> Yes the train gose and the server is up still no games poping up or what it shall do.
#1687 [09:28] <Shadow386> once you start the server, you open up your client
#1688 [09:28] <oldtopman> When the server is up, people with the game can join inyo it.
#1689 [09:28] <helmer> Is there a way to play this ?
#1690 [09:28] <Shadow386> they are seperate software
#1691 [09:29] <helmer> I dont know. I have no clue. I cant se a game just the minecraft server.
#1692 [09:29] <Shadow386> Open up the client
#1693 [09:29] <Shadow386> after you start
#1694 [09:29] <Shadow386> the server
#1695 [09:29] <helmer> The main game.
#1696 [09:29] <Shadow386> yes
#1697 [09:29] <helmer> Singel play?
#1698 [09:29] <Shadow386> no
#1699 [09:29] <Shadow386> multiplayer
#1700 [09:29] <helmer> I am login in now.
#1701 [09:30] <Shadow386> you type 127.0.0.1, and your brother types in your IPv4 ip address, or 192.168.1.x
#1702 [09:30] <Shadow386> the X is whatever your internal IP is, which you get by opening up command prompt
#1703 [09:30] <Shadow386> and typing ipconfig /all
#1704 [09:30] <Shadow386> it will say an IP with 192.168.1.101 or something like that, and you give that to your brother
#1705 [09:31] <helmer> I see.
#1706 [09:31] <helmer> So i am going to type 127.0.0.1 in right now.
#1707 [09:31] <Shadow386> yes
#1708 [09:31] <helmer> Can this be a privet server just between the family?
#1709 [09:31] <helmer> I am downloading terain now.
#1710 [09:32] <Shadow386> yes it can
#1711 [09:32] <Shadow386> as ive said, give the 192.168 ip address to your family
#1712 [09:33] <helmer> So I dont give my Ip to them?
#1713 [09:33] <Shadow386> only give the external IP if they are outside of your home
#1714 [09:33] <helmer> The first Ip you gave me got me to an dark place whit nothing there.
#1715 [09:33] <helmer> k
#1716 [09:34] <helmer> Quite weard. THe game was just black. whit some stars on I was middle in the sky?
#1717 [09:35] <Shadow386> sounds like the server started at night time
#1718 [09:36] <helmer> I played single play and the night dont look like that.
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#1720 [09:37] <helmer> Its dark and I have a white dot above me. : )
#1721 [09:37] <helmer> I cant gatter things.
#1722 [09:37] <oldtopman> helmer: go to the server and type "op helmer"
#1723 [09:37] <helmer> whit the "" ?
#1724 [09:37] <oldtopman> replace helmer with your username.
#1725 [09:38] <oldtopman> without the doublequotes please
#1726 [09:38] <helmer> ok
#1727 [09:38] <oldtopman> Your computer should say "You are now op!" or similar
#1728 [09:38] <helmer> Great!
#1729 [09:38] <helmer> :)
#1730 [09:39] <helmer> THe game loaded instantly.
#1731 [09:39] <oldtopman> Type "/time set 0" in your game
#1732 [09:39] <oldtopman> That should make it daytime
#1733 [09:40] <helmer> How do I make this privet?
#1734 [09:40] <oldtopman> Also, if you aren't op, you can't edit blocks around the spawnpoint.
#1735 [09:40] <oldtopman> helmer: Do you have a firewall at all?
#1736 [09:40] <helmer> Not for the moment.
#1737 [09:41] <oldtopman> In the folder where you launcehd the server.jar file, open the file "server.properties"
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#1739 [09:41] <oldtopman> Use a generic editor such as NotePad
#1740 [09:41] <helmer> I have no suth map or file.
#1741 [09:41] <helmer> Found it now.
#1742 [09:41] <helmer> :)
#1743 [09:42] <oldtopman> ?? ipconfig
#1744 [09:42] <oldtopman> ?? index
#1745 [09:42] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mchelp.darksigns.net/faqindex for a list of FAQ entries
#1746 [09:42] <helmer> This is what I have.
#1747 [09:42] <helmer> #Minecraft server properties #Fri Mar 18 13:56:44 CET 2011 level-name=world hellworld=false spawn-monsters=true online-mode=true spawn-animals=true max-players=1 server-ip= pvp=true server-port=25565 white-list=false
#1748 [09:43] <oldtopman> Go to the run meu and type "cmd"
#1749 [09:43] <oldtopman> no quotes ofc
#1750 [09:43] <oldtopman> ?? win/run
#1751 [09:43] <helmer> ok
#1752 [09:43] <helmer> Windows xp
#1753 [09:44] <oldtopman> And you should have some command prompt. If so, type in "ipconfig
#1754 [09:44] <oldtopman> no leading quote ofc
#1755 [09:44] <helmer> I have them my info there.
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#1757 [09:45] <oldtopman> There should be an IP line, what does it say?
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#1759 [09:46] <oldtopman> helmer?
#1760 [09:46] <helmer> Yes.
#1761 [09:46] <oldtopman> There should be an IP line, what does it say?
#1762 [09:46] <helmer> Alot off nubers
#1763 [09:47] <oldtopman> I need the output of that command.
#1764 [09:47] <helmer> 79.136.38.111
#1765 [09:47] <oldtopman> O.O
#1766 [09:48] <oldtopman> CAn i have the entire output of the command?
#1767 [09:48] <Shadow386> dont post it here, post it on pastebin.com
#1768 [09:48] <oldtopman> !check 79.136.38.111
#1769 [09:48] <oldtopman> OoO
#1770 [09:49] <helmer> O yes I bought this game.
#1771 [09:49] <helmer> :)
#1772 [09:49] <helmer> I am from Sweden myself.
#1773 [09:49] <lukegb> !check
#1774 [09:49] <helmer> What shall I do next then?
#1775 [09:50] <oldtopman> helmer! Focus! I need the URL of the pasebin you uploaded it to!
#1776 [09:50] <oldtopman> How else am I supposed to read it?
#1777 [09:50] <helmer> I have no clue I am not a hacker. ;)
#1778 [09:50] <helmer> 192.168
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#1780 [09:51] <Shadow386> my head hurts now
#1781 [09:51] <oldtopman> Go here: mozilla.pastebin.net
#1782 [09:51] <helmer> To make the game privet?
#1783 [09:51] <oldtopman> Paste the output of the command "ipconfig" into the box and click the button labeled "upload"
#1784 [09:51] <helmer> The game is up
#1785 [09:52] <oldtopman> When you do, you will be directed to anothe page that has your test on it. I want the URL of that page
#1786 [09:52] <oldtopman> helmer: This will block everythin else out.
#1787 [09:53] <oldtopman> When I have the output of that command, I can give you the information required to blobk everyone out form your server.
#1788 [09:53] <helmer> After digging the things grow back the next second and I do not get any resurces.
#1789 [09:53] <Shadow386> helmer
#1790 [09:54] <helmer> Yes Shadow!
#1791 [09:54] <Shadow386> for that fix, you need to type into the server console, op helmer or whatever your accounts name is
#1792 [09:54] <helmer> ok then?
#1793 [09:54] <Shadow386> now you can build at spawn
#1794 [09:55] <Shadow386> did it say in-game, You are now OP!
#1795 [09:55] <oldtopman> helmer: do you have the pastebin yet?
#1796 [09:55] <helmer> no. I just want to start playing.
#1797 [09:56] <oldtopman> <helmer> How do I make this privet?
#1798 [09:56] <oldtopman> Then WHAT IS THAT!!!
#1799 [09:56] <helmer> Just for me and my brother.
#1800 [09:56] <oldtopman> ...
#1801 [09:57] <oldtopman> Open server.properties and change whitelist to "true"
#1802 [09:57] <oldtopman> Open the "whitelist" file and add all of the usernales you want allowed to play on your server.
#1803 [09:57] <oldtopman> Reset the server.
#1804 [09:57] <oldtopman> helmer^^
#1805 [09:58] <oldtopman> !check
#1806 [09:58] <helmer> typing.
#1807 [09:58] <oldtopman> Also: tupe "stop" at the server console to quit the server.
#1808 [09:58] <oldtopman> It's better
#1809 [09:59] <helmer> Ok now I am open it.
#1810 [10:00] <helmer> The train are going! Its not the X 2000 train butt still it going forward.
#1811 [10:00] <oldtopman> I have to go, bye!
#1812 [10:00] <helmer> Thanks for all the help sir!
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#1814 [10:08] <helmer> Is there nother thing to type than 127.0.0.1 ?
#1815 [10:09] <Shadow386> You only type 127.0.0.1
#1816 [10:09] <Shadow386> your brother types the 192.168.1.something IP that is inside your command prompt screen
#1817 [10:11] <helmer> Ip that that I have inserted to the server ip?
#1818 [10:11] <Shadow386> No
#1819 [10:11] <Shadow386> open up command prompt
#1820 [10:12] <helmer> Quite advanst for newbee to servers.
#1821 [10:12] <helmer> Command prompt?
#1822 [10:12] <helmer> whats that.
#1823 [10:12] <Shadow386> Well notch wasnt expecting everyone to try to open a server. Its a little obvious if you dont know how to run a server, you shouldnt unless you take tutorials
#1824 [10:12] <Shadow386> are you on windows?
#1825 [10:13] <helmer> Yes.
#1826 [10:14] <helmer> #Minecraft server properties #Fri Mar 18 13:56:44 CET 2011 level-name=world hellworld=false spawn-monsters=true online-mode=true spawn-animals=true max-players=2 server-ip=79.136.38.111 pvp=true server-port=25565 white-list=true
#1827 [10:14] <Shadow386> click the windows button and press run
#1828 [10:14] <helmer> Server ip = was empty
#1829 [10:14] <Shadow386> wait, is your brother in the same house as you?
#1830 [10:15] <helmer> Hes 200 meters from me.
#1831 [10:15] <Shadow386> Same house or no
#1832 [10:15] <helmer> No
#1833 [10:15] <Shadow386> Then tell him to use that IP
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#1835 [10:15] <helmer> ok
#1836 [10:16] <helmer> We shall try now.
#1837 [10:20] <helmer> That do not work now.
#1838 [10:20] <helmer> 127.0.0.1 Seams like somebody else have it now.
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#1840 [10:24] <Diabo> helmer: 127.0.0.1 is a loopack ip, and it's pointing to you
#1841 [10:24] <Diabo> loopback
#1842 [10:25] <helmer> Now its day butt no items in the gmae.
#1843 [10:25] <helmer> nohting at all. Nothing to colect.
#1844 [10:25] <Shadow386> Im gonna connect to see what you are talking about
#1845 [10:26] <helmer> Need to game version need to be 100% matcht?
#1846 [10:26] <Shadow386> No clue what you just said, but did you close the server?
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#1848 [10:27] <helmer> I think I better wait for the real game to lunch.
#1849 [10:27] <helmer> To muth for me to understand whit the servers and so.
#1850 [10:28] <helmer> It cant be right that If I cutt a tree the tree grow back the next second. lol.
#1851 [10:29] <Shadow386> I told you how to fix that
#1852 [10:29] <helmer> I did op myname it did not chance.
#1853 [10:29] <Shadow386> But it wont get easier when the game is launched, it'll be the same
#1854 [10:31] <helmer> Just the developer know that.
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#1857 [10:32] <swehack> vart skickar man buggar?
#1858 [10:32] <swehack> har letat som en neger
#1859 [10:32] <Michael> how do i chat in main channel?
#1860 [10:32] <helmer> :)
#1861 [10:32] <helmer> Jadu!
#1862 [10:32] <helmer> Press T
#1863 [10:32] <swehack> ahh topic
#1864 [10:32] <swehack> tack
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#1866 [10:35] <helmer> Thanks for your help Shadow. I also hope you have wrong about they not improving the easy in the server. I think it will get better and better in time.
#1867 [10:35] <helmer> Bye!
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#1869 [10:49] <Shadow386> oh lordy
#1870 [10:49] <Shadow386> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Lp9p5yjuo
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#1872 [10:56] <swehack> http://gsfn.us/t/26krh anybody else ever tried to play mc on a TV?
#1873 [10:57] <Shadow386> Its cause you're on a mac
#1874 [10:58] <swehack> so in other words it works fine using a pc connected to a tv? I suspected that
#1875 [10:58] <Shadow386> I havent tried, i dont have enough money to get an HDMI compatible TV
#1876 [10:59] <Shadow386> but my friend does it all the time, and it works fine for him
#1877 [10:59] <Shadow386> he's on Windows 7
#1878 [10:59] <swehack> in that case I'm glad I specified mac os x in the bug report
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#1891 [12:01] <BarryCarlyon> Wolves in minecraft!
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#1902 [12:56] <Lishie> alllriiighhhtttt
#1903 [12:56] <Lishie> So the server is running
#1904 [12:56] <Lishie> But when I start it I get a ton of null pointer exceptions
#1905 [12:56] <Lishie> and wtf is with my name
#1906 [12:58] <Lishie> agh
#1907 [13:02] <xolotl> Totally Minecraft related: who else hates the ongoing trend of sacrificing vertical resolution in favor of widescreenization in laptops, etc?
#1908 [13:02] <xolotl> For real, what is up with that? Do people not code?
#1909 [13:02] * xolotl still misses his 1600x1200 CRT
#1909 [13:03] <Lishie> SERIOUSLY. I hate trying to code in 1080p. So much scrolling :x
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#1911 [13:11] <Lish> :/ I'm getting a lot of errors trying to run this server
#1912 [13:11] <dopeghoti> xolotl: answer: Rotatable widescreen monitors
#1913 [13:12] <dopeghoti> xolotl: also, when I was shopping for my first LCD, having the same or more vertical resolution was one of my make-or-break criteria
#1914 [13:13] <BluePaint> I am trying to use this minecolony mod
#1915 [13:14] <BluePaint> doesn't seem to load into 1.3
#1916 [13:16] <dopeghoti> ??> BluePaint mods
#1917 [13:16] <VoxelHead> BluePaint: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1918 [13:16] <VoxelHead> BluePaint: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1919 [13:16] <dopeghoti> Lish: any mods on the server?
#1920 [13:16] <Lish> nope
#1921 [13:16] <Lish> just installed it.
#1922 [13:16] <Lish> I deleted teh world and it restarted without an issue
#1923 [13:16] <Lish> but now it's not loading chunks
#1924 [13:16] <xolotl> dopeghoti: Yeah, that'd be groovy. Less of a viable solution on a laptop, though. Difficult to type. :)
#1925 [13:17] <dopeghoti> xolotl: rotate laptop, use USB keyboard (:
#1926 [13:17] <Lish> rather, it must be taking FOREVER to load the chunks
#1927 [13:17] <dopeghoti> Lish: client and server on the same machine?
#1928 [13:17] <xolotl> dopeghoti: word. :)
#1929 [13:17] <Lish> Because suddenly mobs
#1930 [13:17] <Lish> no
#1931 [13:17] <dopeghoti> Lish: any firewall, security software, etc?
#1932 [13:17] <Lish> my end? no
#1933 [13:17] <Lish> server is a vps on a dedi server
#1934 [13:17] <dopeghoti> Specs of both server and client?
#1935 [13:17] <dopeghoti> CPU, RAM, etc.
#1936 [13:18] <Lish> I'm using the web client right now. c2d 1.8 ghz 4gb
#1937 [13:18] <dopeghoti> And the server?
#1938 [13:19] <Lish> and the server is one core of an i7 2.8ghz
#1939 [13:19] <Lish> checking memory now
#1940 [13:19] <Lish> I didn't set it up
#1941 [13:19] <Lish> server has 2gb
#1942 [13:19] <Lish> ubuntu
#1943 [13:19] * dopeghoti nods
#1943 [13:19] <dopeghoti> that should be running just fine on both ends
#1944 [13:19] <Lish> Should be
#1945 [13:19] <dopeghoti> what OS are you using clientside?
#1946 [13:19] <Lish> w7 pro x64
#1947 [13:20] <Lish> Never had a problem with it before
#1948 [13:20] <dopeghoti> Running the 64-bit Java?
#1949 [13:20] <Lish> As far as I know, yes
#1950 [13:20] <Lish> I've been playing without issue for 8+ month
#1951 [13:20] <Lish> s
#1952 [13:20] <Lish> But I try and set my own server up and everything goes down in flames.
#1953 [13:20] <dopeghoti> double-check, if you could - does Java live in C:\Program Files\ or C:\Program Files (886)\?
#1954 [13:21] <Lish> well, look at that. it's x32
#1955 [13:21] <dopeghoti> try uninstalling that and installing the 64b version
#1956 [13:21] <Lish> I don't understand why I would be able to run EVERY OTHER server perfectly fine (I just tried another server and it worked fine as well(O
#1957 [13:21] <Lish> That doesn't make sense. :/
#1958 [13:22] <dopeghoti> Is this VPS connected to the internet via IP over Carrier Pigeon?
#1959 [13:22] <AG_Clinton> What's the CPU usage at?
#1960 [13:22] <AG_Clinton> Perhaps someone else on the VPS node is hammering the cpu.
#1961 [13:23] <Lish> Interesting. Suddenly two cores.
#1962 [13:23] * lukegb hammers AG_Clinton
#1962 [13:23] <Lish> I closed system monitor and it had one
#1963 [13:23] <Lish> opened it again and it had two
#1964 [13:23] <Lish> wtf.
#1965 [13:23] <AG_Clinton> OpenVZ?
#1966 [13:23] <VoxelHead> A shrub.
#1967 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> Go go gadget oversold VPS node.
#1968 [13:23] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: possibly.
#1969 [13:24] <Lish> It's not an oversold node. It's a VPS running on a server box owned by my dad
#1970 [13:24] <Lish> it's the only VPS running
#1971 [13:24] <Lish> The server itself is running ws03
#1972 [13:24] <AG_Clinton> You shouldn't just jump to two cores.
#1973 [13:24] <Lish> I know
#1974 [13:24] <DopeGhoti> And what else it running in the Windows host OS?
#1975 [13:25] <Lish> It may have been a while since I've used linux, but even I know this is odd
#1976 [13:25] <DopeGhoti> it sounds like something, at the least, is misconfigured somewhere
#1977 [13:25] <Lish> Some other game servers. Mostly Source.
#1978 [13:25] <Lish> Five max
#1979 [13:25] <VoxelHead> Five max... Fax.
#1980 [13:26] <Lish> So confused.
#1981 [13:26] <Lish> but cpu usage is ~18% on both cores...
#1982 [13:26] <DopeGhoti> how about network throughput?
#1983 [13:27] <Lish> meaning? (still rusty)
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#1985 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> how much is the network beting hammered by these six concurrent servers?
#1986 [13:27] <Shadow386> I wonder if I should open a TF2 community...
#1987 [13:27] <DopeGhoti> being, even
#1988 [13:28] <Lish> Oh. It looks like my dad isn't using his L4D2 server, so probably hardly at all. It's unlikely that anyone would be connected
#1989 [13:28] <Lish> They're not publicly known IPs
#1990 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> okay, that's one of the five Source servers you mentioned.
#1991 [13:28] <DopeGhoti> What virtualizer is being used? VMWare? VirtualBox?
#1992 [13:29] <Lish> There are three L4D2 servers and two L4D
#1993 [13:29] <Lish> Virtual Box
#1994 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> And how much is the Windows host swapping right now?
#1995 [13:29] <Lish> i think there might be a CoD4, but I don't know if it's up
#1996 [13:29] <Lish> No idea. I was locked out of that
#1997 [13:29] * DopeGhoti thought tere were no CoD4 dedicated servers
#1997 [13:29] <Lish> That's MW2
#1998 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> but whatever
#1999 [13:29] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2000 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> Not that I disapprove of Linux (I was actually just wondering why this game server was running Windows at all), but why are you running virtualized rather than running natively, which should perform better
#2001 [13:31] <Lish> Basically, my dad uses plugins for his L4D2 servers that don't work well with Linux
#2002 [13:32] <Lish> And since that's why the server was purchased, there's no way to get around that.
#2003 [13:32] <Lish> I would much rather this be a linux server
#2004 [13:32] <Lish> but the guy managing it would probably catch it on fire if that were to happen
#2005 [13:32] <Shadow386> What would be good specs to run a TF2 server?
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#2007 [13:32] <Shadow386> or any source server for that matter?
#2008 [13:34] <Lish> okay. turning off mobs fixed the chunk issue
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#2010 [13:35] <Lish> Oh, look at that. The guy managing it just sent me a message saying he's installing WS08 and we'll try hosting it natively on that.
#2011 [13:35] <Lish> Face fucking palm.
#2012 [13:35] <Chrham2> I cant connect to Minecraft :S I get: "Switching applet", then I get black screen. What should I do?
#2013 [13:37] <DopeGhoti> Chrham2: try the downloaded client rather than the in-browser one?
#2014 [13:37] <Chrham2> I am using free version
#2015 [13:38] <Shadow386> Chrham2 what browser?
#2016 [13:38] <Chrham2> I tried Google Chrome, Internet Explorer, Safari and Firefox, but no luck :(
#2017 [13:38] <Shadow386> Try reinstalling java
#2018 [13:38] <Chrham2> Though, I can play other Java games and I have the latest Java.
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#2020 [13:41] <MuumiJumala> tried rebooting computer?
#2021 [13:41] <Shadow386> #minecraft is so hostile today.
#2022 [13:42] <xolotl> Yeah, it's a shame
#2023 [13:42] <Shadow386> It used to be good.
#2024 [13:42] <xolotl> It still occasionally is
#2025 [13:43] <Shadow386> Only when the kiddies are at school
#2026 [13:44] <Chrham2> Gah, yes, I tried. But, Ill buy the game instead :-D
#2027 [13:44] <Chrham2> Brb :)
#2028 [13:48] <Chrham2> Bought :D
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#2030 [13:51] <Shadow386> lol
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#2032 [13:56] <Chrham2> I bought and installed the game - but it closes after launch :S
#2033 [13:56] <Shadow386> means you have something wrong with your java
#2034 [13:57] <Chrham2> I have latest java - but I will reinstall.
#2035 [13:57] <Shadow386> try reinstalling, restarting comp, and making sure you have the right version for your pc, in case you have a 64bit instead of a 32bit
#2036 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> ??> Chrham2 win/reinstall
#2037 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> ??> Chrham2 win/reinst
#2038 [13:59] <VoxelHead> Chrham2: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2039 [13:59] <VoxelHead> Chrham2: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2041 [14:00] <Chrham2> Already did that..
#2042 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> Chrham2 win/profile
#2043 [14:01] <VoxelHead> Chrham2: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2044 [14:01] <VoxelHead> Chrham2: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#2050 [14:17] <MajorIIIPain> hello
#2051 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#2052 [14:17] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Hey
#2053 [14:17] * Tanjoodo_iPod sniffs MajorIIIPain
#2053 [14:18] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Pinful
#2054 [14:18] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Painful*
#2055 [14:18] <MajorIIIPain> can someone help me with minecraft and ubuntu 10.10?
#2056 [14:18] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Ask in #minecraft
#2057 [14:19] <Tanjoodo_iPod> It will require you to identify with NickServ
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#2059 [14:19] <Girlsss> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#2060 [14:19] <Girlsss> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#2061 [14:19] <Girlsss> http://www.Palandokenrentacar.Com
#2062 [14:19] <lukegb> Success!
#2063 [14:19] <VoxelHead> \o/ Success
#2064 [14:19] <lukegb> ...
#2065 [14:20] <lukegb> Success!
#2066 [14:20] <lukegb> :p
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#2068 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> ??>> MajorIIIPain ask
#2069 [14:22] <Chrham2> I reinstalled Java and still does not work..
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#2071 [14:22] <mont> i cant play minecraft
#2072 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> mont specific
#2073 [14:22] <VoxelHead> mont: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2074 [14:22] <VoxelHead> mont: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2075 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> Chrham2: did you try what I recommended last time?
#2076 [14:24] <Chrham2> I will try that.
#2077 [14:25] <MajorIIIPain> i can start the minecraft.jar file without anny probs. but if i want to create a world or join a server, it is shutting down... in the terminal he says --> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb7854424, pid=11602, tid=1768029040 # # JRE version: 6.0_24-b07 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (19.1-b02
#2078 [14:26] <MajorIIIPain> someone a idea? :/
#2079 [14:27] <Kealper> can you post the whole error report to http://pastebin.com and then give us the url?
#2080 [14:31] <MajorIIIPain> here it is http://pastebin.com/vJBaFH4i
#2081 [14:32] <Kealper> hmm...
#2082 [14:32] <Kealper> did you install FGLRX yourself?
#2083 [14:33] <MajorIIIPain> what is fglrx? ^^
#2084 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> any irssi gurus in here?
#2085 [14:33] <Kealper> i'll take that as a no
#2086 [14:33] <MajorIIIPain> yap :D
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#2088 [14:33] <MajorIIIPain> i testet reinstall java
#2089 [14:33] <Kealper> give a shot at updating your video drivers, that seems to be what caused the crash
#2090 [14:34] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i'm by no means a guru, but what did you need to know?
#2091 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I had to restart for a kernel update, and I forgot how to tell irssi to send CTCP notices to my current window
#2092 [14:35] <Chrham2> Ok, I tried creating a new user on windows, but no luck on minecraft there either :(
#2093 [14:35] <Kealper> hmm....let me check my config...i have that enabled on mine
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#2096 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> Chrham2: so something is wrong with your system as a whole then.
#2097 [14:36] <Chrham2> This is a new computer.
#2098 [14:36] <MajorIIIPain> could it be that i have to change something in the ati catalys controlecenter?
#2099 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> yes but it may be related to the free^Wstolen version you were running previously leaving cruft behind that breaks the legit client.
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#2101 [14:38] <MajorIIIPain> what? i bought minecraft
#2102 [14:38] <Kealper> MajorIIIPain: well, from what that looks like in that report, i think you have to totally reinstall catalyst/video drivers
#2103 [14:38] <Kealper> and that was probably directed at Chrham2, not you MajorIIIPain
#2104 [14:38] <Kealper> (for what DopeGhoti said)
#2105 [14:39] <Kealper> and dope i can't find it in my config :/
#2106 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I may have found it. /notice me something?
#2107 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> guess not
#2108 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> once more?
#2109 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> damn
#2110 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> Google, why do you fail me so?
#2111 [14:42] <Chrham2> I had no stolen/free version, what are you talking about? :o
#2112 [14:42] <Kealper> hmm....
#2113 [14:43] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: did you try print_active_channel on
#2114 [14:43] <Chrham2> gonna restart comp again - and see if I am lucky.
#2115 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> I have now.. try again?
#2116 [14:43] <Kealper> dice?
#2117 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> nopte; still in status window :/
#2118 [14:43] <Kealper> hmm
#2119 [14:44] <MajorIIIPain> you are my hero!!! i deinstalled the videcard driver and it works so far! now i will test it with reinstall it :) thx a lot so far!
#2120 [14:44] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Minecraft always has problems with video cards :/
#2121 [14:44] <Tanjoodo_iPod> My cousin's computer: same problem.
#2122 [14:45] <MajorIIIPain> i hope it works after reinstalling the driver
#2123 [14:45] <Kealper> oh...dope..take that setting back off if you already didn't do that...all that does is just say the channel name in messages
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#2125 [14:48] <MajorIIIPain> mhh i installed the videcard driver and i have the same prob. as before... what could i do?
#2126 [14:49] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Well, apparently, you have a problem with the driver.
#2127 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> MajorIIIPain: which driver are you installing? And how?
#2128 [14:49] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Are you sure it's the correct driver for your vid card?
#2129 [14:49] <MajorIIIPain> i am installing it with the ubuntu driver software
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#2131 [14:50] <MajorIIIPain> it only lists me this one
#2132 [14:50] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Make sure it's compatible
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#2134 [14:51] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Do you run any other 3D game on your computer?
#2135 [14:51] <linarish> .
#2136 [14:51] <linarish> So guys, is there a folder of minecraft.jar or is it just .minecraft?
#2137 [14:51] <MajorIIIPain> no only world of goo works fine
#2138 [14:51] <MajorIIIPain> but i have no other game installed on linux
#2139 [14:51] <linarish> Someone said, I had to unzip a jar file which I don't understand.
#2140 [14:52] <Tanjoodo_iPod> .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#2141 [14:52] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Unzip minecraft.jar
#2142 [14:52] <Tanjoodo_iPod> That's the jar file
#2143 [14:52] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Notice the .jar
#2144 [14:52] <MajorIIIPain> the driver is named ati proörietärer fglrx-grafiktreiber
#2145 [14:52] <Tanjoodo_iPod> ...
#2146 [14:53] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Doesn't seem good :P
#2147 [14:53] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Try and get it from the ATI website.
#2148 [14:53] <Kealper> that's just saying ATI proprietary driver
#2149 [14:54] <Kealper> in some other language
#2150 [14:54] <Kealper> looks to be...german?
#2151 [14:54] <MajorIIIPain> yes :D
#2152 [14:54] <Kealper> that would be the correct one then
#2153 [14:54] <linarish> .. Ohhh.
#2154 [14:54] <MajorIIIPain> oh i just must download the right driver from the ati website?
#2155 [14:55] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Try that
#2156 [14:55] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Get a driver specific for your card
#2157 [14:55] <MajorIIIPain> ok i check that out :D
#2158 [14:55] <linarish> Wait what Jar?
#2159 [14:55] <linarish> This makes no sense at all.
#2160 [14:55] <linarish> DX
#2161 [14:55] <Kealper> fglrx is the generic ati driver
#2162 [14:56] <MajorIIIPain> but the driver works fine with other programs
#2163 [14:56] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Then seems to be a problem with minecraft only
#2164 [14:56] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Oh well, just uninstall the driver everytime you want to play :P
#2165 [14:56] <linarish> Tanjodo.
#2166 [14:56] <linarish> Do you have team viewer?
#2167 [14:57] <Tanjoodo_iPod> No, I don't
#2168 [14:57] <linarish> <-- Rage.
#2169 [14:57] <Tanjoodo_iPod> And notice the name, I'm on my ipod touch
#2170 [14:57] <linarish> .
#2171 [14:57] <linarish> <-- More rage.
#2172 [14:57] <bread> MajorIIIPain: open a terminal and type 'gears'. If that works, your 3D is setup up properly.
#2173 [14:58] <Kealper> Civ 5 >.>
#2174 [14:58] <VoxelHead> Moist knickers
#2175 [14:59] <bread> lol Vox
#2176 [14:59] <Kealper> lol
#2177 [14:59] <Tanjoodo_iPod> linarish: Try what bread said.
#2178 [15:00] <Kealper> Tanjoodo_iPod: they have an ipod app :P
#2179 [15:00] <linarish> .
#2180 [15:00] <linarish> I dislike my life.
#2181 [15:00] <Kealper> it's crappy because the small screens on ipods, but it works
#2182 [15:00] <linarish> Sigh, I just want mai kitty D:
#2183 [15:00] <Shadow386> So Kealper
#2184 [15:00] <Kealper> wut
#2185 [15:00] <Kealper> rawr?
#2186 [15:00] <Shadow386> is #minecraft more civil yet?
#2187 [15:00] <MajorIIIPain> if i run gears, it says befehl not found
#2188 [15:01] <Kealper> idk...after yesterday i just rageignored it
#2189 [15:01] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Kealper: I know, but that would require me to close IRC (old iPod), and I only have 10% battery
#2190 [15:01] <Kealper> Tanjoodo_iPod: :/
#2191 [15:02] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Lol, I told linarish to do what bread said instead of MajorIIIPain
#2192 [15:02] * Tanjoodo_iPod needs to get some sleep
#2192 [15:02] <bread> MajorIIIPain: then you have a problem with 3D. Don't use Ubuntu, so I'm not sure what it is though!
#2193 [15:02] <bread> try gfx drivers from ATI's site
#2194 [15:02] <Kealper> he's on Debian 5
#2195 [15:02] <bread> oh wut
#2196 [15:03] <linarish> I don't even have gears.
#2197 [15:03] <bread> < MajorIIIPain> i am installing it with the ubuntu driver software
#2198 [15:03] <bread> wat
#2199 [15:03] <Kealper> wut
#2200 [15:03] <Tanjoodo_iPod> linarish: Sorry, that was suppose to be directed to MajorIIIPain
#2201 [15:03] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Supposed*
#2202 [15:03] <linarish> .
#2203 [15:03] <linarish> Sigh Sigh.
#2204 [15:03] <Kealper> the error report he gave said he was using Squeeze
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#2206 [15:04] <bread> IF U USE DEBIAN Y U USE UBUNTU POOP CENTER?
#2207 [15:04] <Kealper> lol
#2208 [15:04] <bread> in that case
#2209 [15:04] <bread> try gfx drivers from ATI's site
#2210 [15:04] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Well, gotta go everyone, my sleepiness is making me counter-productive.
#2211 [15:04] <bread> like you should have n the first place
#2212 [15:04] <bread> looool
#2213 [15:04] <bread> bai Tanjoodoooooo
#2214 [15:04] * Tanjoodo_iPod laughs at what he just said
#2214 [15:05] <Tanjoodo_iPod> As I ever was productive XD
#2215 [15:05] * Kealper waves
#2215 [15:05] <Tanjoodo_iPod> bye.
#2216 [15:05] <bread> \o
#2217 [15:05] <VoxelHead> mmm Tanjoodo_ipod
#2218 [15:06] <bread> hahha
#2219 [15:07] <bread> <3 VoxelHead
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#2223 [15:12] <getut> Is it OK to ask for help with mods here?
#2224 [15:12] <BarryCarlyon> Nope.
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#2227 [15:23] <gkx> Hey, guys, my server is having trouble with its ports. It involves a mod, but I don't think the mod is too heavily involved.
#2228 [15:25] <relsqui> dose it work without the mod?
#2229 [15:25] <gkx> It was working without the mod.
#2230 [15:25] <gkx> Basically part of the mods instructions were to launch the server using the mod itself.
#2231 [15:26] <gkx> And the mod was saying "We can't use these ports, perhaps the ports are in use by another server"
#2232 [15:26] <gkx> So I said "Well, yeah, it is (Sorry lol one port)"
#2233 [15:26] <gkx> But now I tried to continue without it because it seemed to be working okay, and now the original server isn't letting me go because the ports are in use.
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#2236 [15:33] <gkx> Just tried removing the mods and it's still not working
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#2240 [15:45] <BarryCarlyon> gkx: try a fresh download of the server from minecraft.net
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#2242 [15:47] <gkx> Actually, turns out restarting worked, but now it's accessing the wrong world.
#2243 [15:47] <gkx> Which means I'm probably gonna have to get a fresh download anyways.
#2244 [15:47] <gkx> But thanks :D
#2245 [15:48] <SkiingPenguins> change it in your server.properties
#2246 [15:48] <gkx> Oh believe me I know.
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#2248 [15:48] <gkx> I've wrestled with this issue about a thousand times.
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#2251 [15:54] <Mario2208> pls help someone try to connect to a server but it dont work error message: faild to login:bad login
#2252 [15:54] <aetherian> *failed
#2253 [15:54] <Mario2208> yeah yeah but what does that matter only want to play
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#2255 [15:56] <L3xM3nt> Hello
#2256 [15:56] <aetherian> oh yeah, and by the by, it's on my server, and I just got http://pastebin.com/veyhHx7u in my terminal, if that helps.
#2257 [15:56] <aetherian> hello, l3
#2258 [15:56] <L3xM3nt> I would need some help
#2259 [15:57] <aetherian> shoot, then
#2260 [15:57] <L3xM3nt> Well i have open my own MClawl classic server and i can't figger out how i make an safe spawn
#2261 [15:57] <L3xM3nt> in main so player can't destroy it
#2262 [15:58] <aetherian> ??> L3xM3nt mods
#2263 [15:58] <VoxelHead> L3xM3nt: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2264 [15:58] <VoxelHead> L3xM3nt: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2265 [15:58] <L3xM3nt> Well i am not using any mods
#2266 [15:59] <L3xM3nt> this is an classic server for www.minecraft.net
#2267 [15:59] <gkx> Oh, hey, I didn't know there was a channel for Bukkit
#2268 [15:59] <aetherian> I thought mclawl was a modded server?
#2269 [16:00] <L3xM3nt> No it's not i am having my server upright now
#2270 [16:00] <L3xM3nt> well idk if it is
#2271 [16:00] <L3xM3nt> i just started the server 3 days ago
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#2273 [16:01] <gkx> Gah I can't see who's in a room.
#2274 [16:01] <gkx> Stupid XChat
#2275 [16:01] <L3xM3nt> Use Mirc insted
#2276 [16:01] <SkiingPenguins> EWWWW
#2277 [16:01] <SkiingPenguins> that's the worst one ive ever seen
#2278 [16:02] <L3xM3nt> xChat isent realy funkunal with the irc chat anymore the updates is to fast
#2279 [16:02] <aetherian> use pchat :)
#2280 [16:02] <gkx> Do they have mIRC for Ubuntu?
#2281 [16:02] <aetherian> mIRC fails
#2282 [16:02] <aetherian> do /not/ use it
#2283 [16:02] <gkx> Yeah I really don't like mIRC anyways
#2284 [16:02] <L3xM3nt> I am using mIRC right now
#2285 [16:03] <L3xM3nt> I even use it for my minecraft server
#2286 [16:03] <xolotl> zomg, this new laptop has nVidia graphics
#2287 [16:05] <aetherian> lul
#2288 [16:05] * xolotl is eager to find out if the 3D performance Isn't Terrible
#2288 [16:07] <aetherian> I have a one gig dedicated gpu in my laptop :)
#2289 [16:08] <SkiingPenguins> FML.
#2290 [16:09] <SkiingPenguins> i dont even have graphics card. it's called an "Accelerator" -.-
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#2293 [16:12] <Chr|s> installed world edit, where do I put the craftsscripts folder?
#2294 [16:13] <aetherian> heh
#2295 [16:14] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2296 [16:14] <aetherian> shut up voxxy
#2297 [16:14] <VoxelHead> Nnk.
#2298 [16:14] <Chr|s> xchat is good
#2299 [16:14] <aetherian> no
#2300 [16:14] <aetherian> pchat is better.
#2301 [16:14] <Chr|s> in my opinion its not :)
#2302 [16:15] <aetherian> ever used it?
#2303 [16:15] <Chr|s> yup
#2304 [16:16] <aetherian> also, irssi is most certainly useful
#2305 [16:16] <aetherian> always useful to have stuff that can be run in a terminal
#2306 [16:16] <Chr|s> saying xchat isn't good is saying pchat isn't good lol
#2307 [16:16] <aetherian> no
#2308 [16:17] <aetherian> not exactly
#2309 [16:17] <aetherian> because pchat>xchat
#2310 [16:17] <Chr|s> pchat is a fork of xchat
#2311 [16:17] <aetherian> not to mention, if you use windows, pchat is easily free for it
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#2313 [16:30] <Chr|s> wolfies coming to MC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Lp9p5yjuo
#2314 [16:31] <aetherian> o.o
#2315 [16:33] <Chr|s> nice, will be able to tame them
#2316 [16:33] <Chr|s> and they will fight for you
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#2320 [16:59] <xolotl> Chr|s: I would be sad if a tame wolf ended up dying after fighting for me
#2321 [16:59] <Kealper> :<
#2322 [16:59] <Chr|s> xolotl: creepers will blow em away
#2323 [17:00] <Chr|s> I think its pretty cool though
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#2326 [17:03] <DeathConsuming> Is it possible to choose the seed that a server loads?
#2327 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> DeathConsuming: Gen the server using a seed on SSP, then copy the level.dat to the SMP server.
#2328 [17:04] <DeathConsuming> So generate using Singleplayer then move to Multiplayer?
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#2331 [17:07] <Gamerscd> anyone here know of a webpage explaining the terrain.png what section is for what ect..
#2332 [17:07] <VoxelHead> nein
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#2334 [17:09] <xolotl> Gamerscd: It should be reasonably clear what's used for what, though. There's some stuff in there that's unused (like the spiderweb-looking-thing) but it shouldn't take too long to figure out
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#2336 [17:09] <VoxelHead> Bye "progme"
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#2339 [17:10] <Gamerscd> xolotl im trying to figure out what some of these empty blocks are cause other people are using them in their texture packs
#2340 [17:11] <Azby> helloo
#2341 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, Azby
#2342 [17:11] <Azby> Anyone here know how to run a minecraft server? I tried but I think I don't have enough RAM.. I've got 4GB but it seems to maxe out to 100% if I try to join
#2343 [17:11] <xolotl> Gamerscd: Either they've put them in there to support third-party mods, or they've just used them as testbeds
#2344 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> Azby requirements/lessrude
#2345 [17:12] <VoxelHead> Azby: (requirements/lessrude) 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#2346 [17:12] <VoxelHead> Azby: (requirements/lessrude) A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#2347 [17:12] <Azby> less rude? Was I being rude?
#2348 [17:12] <Azby> or is that a phrase?
#2349 [17:12] <Azby> Anyway
#2350 [17:12] <Azby> So why doesn't it work for me? :p
#2351 [17:12] <xolotl> Azby: That's just the key for the phrase that the bot was going to spit out at you. :)
#2352 [17:13] <Azby> oh ok lol
#2353 [17:13] <xolotl> Azby: (presumably there's a more-rude phrasing of that information, for if someone was being a jerk about it, I guess. :)
#2354 [17:13] <Azby> lol ok
#2355 [17:13] <xolotl> ??> xolotl requirements/rude
#2356 [17:13] <Azby> Any of you ever run a server?
#2357 [17:13] <xolotl> ??> xolotl requirements/morerude
#2358 [17:13] <Azby> lol
#2359 [17:13] <Azby> did it work?
#2360 [17:13] <xolotl> (dunno if the bot would respond to me, anyway)
#2361 [17:13] <xolotl> ??> xolotl requirements/lessrude
#2362 [17:13] <VoxelHead> xolotl: (requirements/lessrude) 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#2363 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> Azby: the original 'requirements' is.. more rude than the lessrude one
#2364 [17:13] <VoxelHead> xolotl: (requirements/lessrude) A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#2365 [17:13] <Azby> ??> Azby requirements/morerude
#2366 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Azby requirements
#2367 [17:14] <Azby> ahg
#2368 [17:14] <xolotl> anyway
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#2370 [17:14] <Azby> So yea, both my proccessors(I presume they're kinda ram) go to 100%
#2371 [17:14] <Azby> when joining and running
#2372 [17:14] <Azby> and the server spams cannot keep up and my player falls to air
#2373 [17:14] <Azby> Which aint too fun
#2374 [17:15] <aetherian> yay... kickstarter is filled :)
#2375 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: again?
#2376 [17:15] <aetherian> wha
#2377 [17:16] <Azby> I guess nodody can help.. *cries
#2378 [17:16] <aetherian> someone just say that? this is just me noticing it now...
#2379 [17:16] <aetherian> [/randomoutburst]
#2380 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> Azby: are you running the server and client on the same machine?
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#2382 [17:16] <Azby> That's correct
#2383 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: it hit the goal a week or so ago
#2384 [17:16] <Azby> the thingsaid 3.5gb was enough
#2385 [17:16] <Azby> but it wont even function
#2386 [17:16] <aetherian> aww whatever
#2387 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> Azby: 3.5GiB is enough if the server is doing absolutely nothing else
#2388 [17:16] <Azby> And who here is called "it" lol
#2389 [17:16] <Fats123> hey guys can anyone help me with lag in SMP?
#2390 [17:17] <Azby> What would you recommend dopeghoti?
#2391 [17:17] <Azby> I pressume there's no other way, that's free
#2392 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Azby: first, I'd advice connecting to the server from another physical computer, just for testing
#2393 [17:17] <Azby> Mkay
#2394 [17:17] <Azby> through localhost still though yar?
#2395 [17:17] <Azby> My other pc only has 1gb ram so that generally lags though
#2396 [17:17] <Azby> so that'd suck
#2397 [17:18] <VoxelHead> d is a pile of bitch
#2398 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> vox, what?
#2399 [17:18] <VoxelHead> A monitor.
#2400 [17:18] <aetherian> o.o
#2401 [17:18] <Azby> http://www.fragnet.net/
#2402 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> Azby: not through localhost; through your computer's LAN IP address
#2403 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> Azby: to a computer, 'localhost' means 'myself'
#2404 [17:18] <Fats123> SMP is unplayable for me, and i know its on my side
#2405 [17:19] <Azby> oh ok
#2406 [17:19] <Fats123> anybody?
#2407 [17:19] <Azby> 192.168.1.*
#2408 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> Fats123: unplayable how?
#2409 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> Fats123: network lag? rendering lag?
#2410 [17:19] <Fats123> how do i whisper btw
#2411 [17:19] <Fats123> network
#2412 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> ?? irc/dontpm
#2413 [17:19] <VoxelHead> irc/dontpm: We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#2414 [17:19] <Fats123> oh ok
#2415 [17:20] <Fats123> well yeah
#2416 [17:20] <Fats123> its network lag
#2417 [17:20] <Fats123> and it happens on all servers
#2418 [17:20] <Fats123> i join
#2419 [17:20] <Azby> but- to pm click their name in the list :p
#2420 [17:20] <Fats123> so ill dig a block and then it returns
#2421 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> what kind of internet connection are yo on?
#2422 [17:20] <Fats123> a decent one
#2423 [17:20] <Azby> speedtest.net ?
#2424 [17:20] <Fats123> heres the weirdest part tho
#2425 [17:21] <Fats123> i can play creative mode online no problem
#2426 [17:21] <Fats123> and I've played xbox live
#2427 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> Creative uses less bandwidth than Beta
#2428 [17:21] <Azby> dopeghoti http://mymcserv.com/plans
#2429 [17:21] <Azby> would that be good?
#2430 [17:21] <Fats123> also, I was able to play this earlier
#2431 [17:21] <Azby> Just for 2/3 people
#2432 [17:21] <Fats123> smp
#2433 [17:22] <Fats123> but then after a month or so of not playing
#2434 [17:22] <Fats123> i get this problem
#2435 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> Azby: plan 2 at the minimum
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#2437 [17:22] <Azby> so why do they offer plan 1? lol
#2438 [17:22] <Fats123> ill test my connection for you guys tho
#2439 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> Azby: some people run third-party servers that allegedly use less RAM
#2440 [17:23] <Azby> oh right..
#2441 [17:23] <Azby> do they?
#2442 [17:23] <Azby> Or if you're cautious of saying yes, do they "perhaps"?
#2443 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> I don't know; I've not used non-vanilla servers
#2444 [17:24] <Azby> rather disapointing
#2445 [17:24] <Fats123> ping:50 ms Down: 23.60mbps Up: .49 mbps
#2446 [17:24] <Azby> vanilla?
#2447 [17:24] <VoxelHead> Take one little step left.
#2448 [17:24] <Azby> woaahh
#2449 [17:24] <Azby> my down is about 300kbs lol
#2450 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> ?? vanilla
#2451 [17:24] <VoxelHead> vanilla: vanilla (adj.): Bland; original; with no garnish. In the contect of Minecraft, a server or client with no mods, skins, texture packs, or other customizations.
#2452 [17:24] <Fats123> lolz
#2453 [17:24] <Azby> lol
#2454 [17:25] <Fats123> dsl
#2455 [17:25] <Fats123> ?
#2456 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> Fats123: your upstream is too narrow.
#2457 [17:25] <Azby> ?? chocolate
#2458 [17:25] <Azby> lol
#2459 [17:25] <Azby> ?? VoxelHead
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#2461 [17:25] <linarish> Hello
#2462 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#2463 [17:25] <linarish> Hey, guys.
#2464 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> hey
#2465 [17:25] <Fats123> that would explain the game not reacting to what im doing
#2466 [17:25] <linarish> I opened my minecraft.jar and put some class files into it.
#2467 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> Fats123: indeed
#2468 [17:25] <linarish> And its not runnin.g
#2469 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> linarish mods
#2470 [17:25] <VoxelHead> linarish: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2471 [17:25] <VoxelHead> linarish: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2472 [17:26] <linarish> . Yes Dope
#2473 [17:26] <linarish> It is mods.
#2474 [17:26] <Fats123> but I didn't have this problem earlier
#2475 [17:26] <Fats123> same connection i presume
#2476 [17:26] <Fats123> unless an update made the game more network heavy
#2477 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> Fats123: you know what they say about assumption? It makes an ass out of u and mption.
#2478 [17:26] <VoxelHead> An ass-out.
#2479 [17:27] <linarish> So, anyone know the help to this?
#2480 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> close enough, VoxelHead
#2481 [17:27] <linarish> Its a neko mod.
#2482 [17:27] <linarish> Which I really wanna see.
#2483 [17:27] <Fats123> hmph
#2484 [17:27] <Fats123> maybe i should take my computer to my friends place
#2485 [17:27] <Fats123> see if its a software problem somehow
#2486 [17:29] <linarish> Dope thanks
#2487 [17:29] <linarish> You helped
#2488 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> I do what I can
#2489 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $6
#2490 [17:30] <linarish> ..
#2491 [17:30] <linarish> How about my gratitude
#2492 [17:31] <Mousey> ypu
#2493 [17:31] <Mousey> you're welcome
#2494 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> s'pose that'll do
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#2496 [17:50] <linarish> Guys.
#2497 [17:50] <linarish> How do you know if a mod worked?
#2498 [17:50] <xales> ??> linarish mods
#2499 [17:50] <VoxelHead> linarish: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2500 [17:51] <VoxelHead> linarish: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2501 [17:51] <Visiiri> xales, care to answer this guy's question? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=230804
#2502 [17:51] <Visiiri> You know the answer, I don't :S
#2503 [17:51] <linarish> -.-
#2504 [17:51] <linarish> Just tell me how do you know if a spawn mod worked.
#2505 [17:51] <xales> Visiiri: -Xmx(whatever)G
#2506 [17:52] <xales> linarish: We don't support mods
#2507 [17:52] <Visiiri> So you would add -Xmx (number of gigs) G ?
#2508 [17:52] <Visiiri> Just to solidify my understanding
#2509 [17:52] <xales> yes
#2510 [17:52] <xales> or, number of megabytes M
#2511 [17:52] <xales> eg
#2512 [17:52] <linarish> Does anything support mods?
#2513 [17:52] <xales> 1500M
#2514 [17:52] <xales> -Xmx1500M
#2515 [17:52] <xales> or whatever
#2516 [17:52] <xales> linarish: The message had all the information you need
#2517 [17:53] <linarish> It has information on how you know if mods worked?
#2518 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> linarish mods
#2519 [17:53] <VoxelHead> linarish: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2520 [17:53] <VoxelHead> linarish: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2521 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> read the second line closely
#2522 [17:54] <Visiiri> xales, I hoped I did it right http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=230804&p=3295768#p3295768
#2523 [17:54] <Visiiri> *hope
#2524 [17:54] <Visiiri> Uh oh
#2525 [17:54] <Visiiri> where would that go- oh wait
#2526 [17:55] <xales> Visiiri
#2527 [17:55] <xales> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=230804&p=3295823#p3295823
#2528 [17:55] <Visiiri> Thanks :)
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#2536 [18:21] <BarryCarlyon> Kealper: busy?
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#2547 [18:59] <Chrham2> I got this error:
#2548 [18:59] <Chrham2> #
#2549 [18:59] <Chrham2> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#2550 [18:59] <Chrham2> #
#2551 [18:59] <Chrham2> # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x5140e9c0, pid=528, tid=3796
#2552 [18:59] <Chrham2> #
#2553 [19:00] <xales> ._.
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#2555 [19:04] <Chrham2> Hi. I need some help.
#2556 [19:04] <Chrham2> Anyone here good in reading java hs_err
#2557 [19:06] <xales> pastebin it
#2558 [19:06] <xales> http://pastebin.com/
#2559 [19:06] <Chrham2> http://pastebin.com/CLi6ytft
#2560 [19:07] <xales> ??> Chrham2 win/reinst
#2561 [19:07] <VoxelHead> Chrham2: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2562 [19:07] <VoxelHead> Chrham2: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2563 [19:07] <ArmEagle> is there another block besides lava/cactus that can destroy a cart?
#2564 [19:07] <Chrham2> Done that several times already :/
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#2566 [19:08] <Chrham2> Voxel, it still doesn't work.
#2567 [19:08] <xales> Chrham2: Did you always get this error?
#2568 [19:09] <xales> Also, VoxelHead is a bot
#2569 [19:09] <Chrham2> yes.
#2570 [19:09] <xales> ??> Chrham2 win/dxdiag
#2571 [19:09] <VoxelHead> Chrham2: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2572 [19:09] <VoxelHead> Chrham2: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#2574 [19:12] <Chrham2> http://pastebin.com/g0EFMhR9
#2575 [19:13] <xales> You need to update your video card driver
#2576 [19:13] <Chrham2> How?
#2577 [19:14] <xales> Go to the website for your video card, in this case, AMD/ATI
#2578 [19:14] <xales> go to the driver section
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#2580 [19:14] <xales> select which card you have, and what OS
#2581 [19:14] <xales> and download it
#2582 [19:14] <xales> and install it
#2583 [19:14] <PjotrOrial> does the server time stop, if no player is connected to a server?
#2584 [19:14] <Prins> minecraft > any other game
#2585 [19:14] <Prins> amirite?
#2586 [19:15] <xales> Prins: I'm...not sure actually, but I don't think it does
#2587 [19:15] <xales> err, PjotrOrial rather
#2588 [19:15] <xales> :|
#2589 [19:15] <ssen> It continues, PjotrOrial.
#2590 [19:15] <ssen> You'll see evidence of this if you set a fire, leave, and come back after a few hours.
#2591 [19:16] <ssen> Instant deforestification!
#2592 [19:16] <Chrham2> Processors?
#2593 [19:16] <PjotrOrial> that was my assumption -.- so i cannot keep it running at my homeserver... because all the crops is smashed after hours of no care
#2594 [19:17] <PjotrOrial> thx a lot
#2595 [19:17] <xales> Chrham2: Video card
#2596 [19:17] <ssen> No problem.
#2597 [19:17] <ssen> I don't help people out often enough in this channel :(
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#2600 [19:19] <xales> Chrham2: Like this. http://darksigns.net/screenshots/tutorial-2011-03-18_19.19.08.png
#2601 [19:19] <Chrham2> Is OpenCL Driver a video card driver? ^_^
#2602 [19:19] <xales> No, it's not
#2603 [19:20] <xales> Set the page like that, it will give you a link to what you need to install after you pick which OS you have
#2604 [19:20] <Chrham2> Which site was that from?
#2605 [19:21] <xales> The AMD website
#2606 [19:21] <xales> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
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#2608 [19:23] <Chrham2> Thank you! Found it. Now I am downloading. Will see what happens after installed.
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#2611 [19:28] * DopeGhoti wonders..
#2611 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> ?? gpu/amd
#2612 [19:28] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx
#2613 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> no, that's not the same URL
#2614 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> ??+ gpu/AMD|You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2615 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> ??~ gpu/AMD|You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2616 [19:29] <xales> DopeGhoti: Why does bmotion ignore me? :|
#2617 [19:29] <Chrham2> During installing new video drivers - is it supposed that the screen flicker?
#2618 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> xales: eh?
#2619 [19:29] <xales> Chrham2: Yes
#2620 [19:29] <xales> DopeGhoti: bmotion completely ignores me
#2621 [19:29] <xales> VoxelHead, fire everything at DopeGhoti
#2622 [19:29] <xales> VoxelHead, eat DopeGhoti
#2623 [19:29] <xales> etc
#2624 [19:29] <xales> nothing
#2625 [19:29] <xales> works for everyone else
#2626 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> vox: test
#2627 [19:29] <Chrham2> VoxelHead, eat DopeGhoti
#2628 [19:30] <Chrham2> What are you on about? :o
#2629 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> vox: test
#2630 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> vox: test
#2631 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> odd
#2632 [19:31] <xales> it works for aetherian :|
#2633 [19:31] <xales> and Kealper
#2634 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> oh
#2635 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> someone told vox to shut up, so it's in silent mode for a bit
#2636 [19:32] <Chrham2> OMG!!! MINECRAFT WORKS!@@@@@@ Thanks so much!
#2637 [19:32] <ssen> Wow.
#2638 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> ?
#2639 [19:33] <xales> Vox, test
#2640 [19:33] <xales> :|
#2641 [19:33] <xales> DopeGhoti: I told it to unaway
#2642 [19:33] <xales> ..but of course, it didn't listen
#2643 [19:34] <xales> 19:33:23 <xales> .bmotion away off
#2644 [19:34] <xales> 19:33:24 <VOxelHead> Coming back from being away.
#2645 [19:34] <xales> oh well
#2646 [19:34] <xales> when it does come back, it will work for everyone but me :<
#2647 [19:34] <xales> anyway! I'm going to play some HL2
#2648 [19:34] <xales> so, have fun
#2649 [19:34] <xales> :D
#2650 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> away and silent are different
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#2652 [19:35] <Uncivilization> Hello
#2653 [19:35] <Uncivilization> My friend server wont let me connect to his server. His has unlocked ports etc?
#2654 [19:36] <xales> What happens when you try?
#2655 [19:36] <Uncivilization> connection time out
#2656 [19:37] <xales> What IP are you trying to connect to
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#2658 [19:38] <Uncivilization> his IP, not 192.168.0.1 :) I can connect to my Bro and they can connect to me. But we just can not connect to his
#2659 [19:38] <xales> What is his IP?
#2660 [19:38] <Uncivilization> 86.19.160.199
#2661 [19:38] <oldtopmanserver> What exactly are you typing into the multiplayer box?
#2662 [19:39] <xales> !check 86.19.160.199
#2663 [19:39] <xales> Uncivilization: They did not port forward correctly then
#2664 [19:39] <xales> (or they put an IP address in the server.properties file - if they did, they must remove it)
#2665 [19:40] <Uncivilization> i'll get him to check but he didnt put it in there
#2666 [19:41] <Uncivilization> no ip in there
#2667 [19:41] <Uncivilization> check my ip 82.13.66.4
#2668 [19:42] <xales> are you running a server on it?
#2669 [19:42] <Uncivilization> does it have to be running to check?
#2670 [19:42] <xales> yes
#2671 [19:42] <Uncivilization> lol he just opened his now then 86.19.160.199
#2672 [19:42] <xales> !check 86.19.160.199
#2673 [19:43] <xales> same problem
#2674 [19:43] <Uncivilization> hmm got to be his end, but I can't seem to find it
#2675 [19:43] <xales> if he is running a firewall, it should be off. otherwise, it looks like he port forwarded incorrectly
#2676 [19:44] <Uncivilization> We tried turning all that off also, but we checked in the admin page and he I watched him enter everything correctly lol
#2677 [19:46] <Uncivilization> ah not to worry, I give up trying to help him lol
#2678 [19:46] <Uncivilization> thanks anyway
#2679 [19:51] <oldtopmanserver> !check 192.75.71.137
#2680 [19:54] <mike_> 192 sounds local
#2681 [19:55] <mike_> are you on a school or work network?
#2682 [19:55] <xales> mike_: only 192.168 is local, anything else conflicts with the Internet
#2683 [19:56] <VoxelHead> bye Neon
#2684 [19:56] <oldtopmanserver> I did that command, It's TheRealOak's Ip (from #pokemon)
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#2686 [19:57] <mib_bgx4og> hey
#2687 [19:57] <mib_bgx4og> i need help
#2688 [19:57] <BarryCarlyon> I think the auth server is being a tree again.
#2689 [19:57] <BarryCarlyon> mib_bgx4og: dont ask to ask just ask
#2690 [19:57] <xales> mib_bgx4og: what do you need help with...?
#2691 [19:57] <mib_bgx4og> the beta is crashing on me
#2692 [19:58] <mib_bgx4og> it works till i click single player
#2693 [19:58] <xales> ??> mib_bgx4og win/reinst
#2694 [19:58] <VoxelHead> mib_bgx4og: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2695 [19:58] <VoxelHead> mib_bgx4og: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2696 [19:58] <mib_bgx4og> i use ubuntu
#2697 [19:59] <xales> ??> mib_bgx4og linux/reinst
#2698 [19:59] <VoxelHead> mib_bgx4og: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2699 [19:59] <VoxelHead> mib_bgx4og: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#2700 [19:59] <mib_bgx4og> ok brb
#2701 [19:59] <mib_bgx4og> ok now what?
#2702 [20:00] <xales> try running it now?
#2703 [20:00] <mib_bgx4og> ok
#2704 [20:01] <mib_bgx4og> nope
#2705 [20:01] <mib_bgx4og> :(
#2706 [20:01] <xales> has it ever worked?
#2707 [20:01] <mib_bgx4og> no
#2708 [20:01] <mib_bgx4og> it has never worked
#2709 [20:01] <xales> run the command `lshw` in a Terminal window
#2710 [20:01] <xales> and copy all of the output to http://pastebin.com/
#2711 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> xales: just checking: did you indend to leave #minecraft moderated? Not that I have _any_ problem with this.
#2712 [20:02] <xales> I did
#2713 [20:03] * DopeGhoti nods
#2713 [20:03] <mib_bgx4og> ok i pasted it now what?
#2714 [20:04] <xales> click "submit" and give me the link
#2715 [20:04] <mib_bgx4og> http://pastebin.com/Sr4QBUCK
#2716 [20:05] <xales> Go to System->Administration->Additional Drivers (might be called "Hardware Drivers")
#2717 [20:05] <xales> Make sure anything in there is checked
#2718 [20:07] <mib_bgx4og> im checking for what? a check?
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#2720 [20:07] * Boothk waves
#2720 [20:07] <xales> hi Boothk
#2721 [20:07] <xales> mib_bgx4og: yes
#2722 [20:07] <xales> make sure anything listed there has a check next to it
#2723 [20:08] * Boothk is looking for some quick opinions. It seems his copy of Minecraft runs VERY slowly after logging in, but only if Firefox was open beforehand.
#2723 [20:08] <VoxelHead> Merki.
#2724 [20:08] <xales> Boothk: Firefox uses a lot of RAM - it just means you don't have enough to run Minecraft and Firefox at the same time
#2725 [20:08] <Boothk> If Firefox was closed, then opened after minecraft logs in then the game runs just fine
#2726 [20:09] <xales> both of them use a large amount of RAM
#2727 [20:09] <Boothk> I have 4gb of ram. I don't think minecraft even has permission to use more then 0.5gb (according to its debug anyway)
#2728 [20:09] <mib_bgx4og> i see a green dot not a check
#2729 [20:09] <xales> mib_bgx4og: a green dot is a check
#2730 [20:09] <mib_bgx4og> ok
#2731 [20:10] <xales> it looks like the graphics card in your computer is too old to run Minecraft
#2732 [20:10] <mib_bgx4og> ok a new 1?
#2733 [20:10] <xales> you'd need to buy a whole new laptop
#2734 [20:10] <xales> you can't replace an integrated card in a laptop
#2735 [20:10] <mib_bgx4og> 0.o
#2736 [20:10] <Boothk> ouch
#2737 [20:11] <mib_bgx4og> what about a newer driver?
#2738 [20:11] <xales> there isn't a newer driver
#2739 [20:11] <xales> your card just doesn't support the technologies Minecraft needs - it's too old
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#2741 [20:12] <mib_bgx4og> darnit!
#2742 [20:12] <VoxelHead> i like darnit
#2743 [20:12] <aetherian> haha
#2744 [20:12] <VoxelHead> surely that was no human bee!
#2745 [20:13] <Boothk> o.o
#2746 [20:14] <mib_bgx4og> ok ty bye!
#2747 [20:14] <VoxelHead> mmm Mousey
#2748 [20:14] <Boothk> does anyone else have any input on this weird issue?
#2749 [20:16] <xales> I'm pretty sure it's just a resource availibility issue
#2750 [20:16] <Boothk> I can't imagine why minecraft would only run slowly if firefox was open when i logged in
#2751 [20:17] <xales> your system doesn't have enough resources to run both, is my guess
#2752 [20:17] <Boothk> even though the other way round it can?
#2753 [20:17] <VoxelHead> over there
#2754 [20:20] <BarryCarlyon> Sounds like memory managemnt fun.
#2755 [20:20] <BarryCarlyon> Firefox can be quite the hog.
#2756 [20:20] <BarryCarlyon> So the order of opening things effects the memory availbel to the rest of the system
#2757 [20:21] <Boothk> hmm
#2758 [20:21] <Boothk> I'm using the old launcher that was released with alpha (I've heard the new launcher isn't that great)
#2759 [20:21] <xales> The new launcher works fine
#2760 [20:21] <Boothk> you reckon it's set to use a percentage of the available memory?
#2761 [20:21] <xales> the game by default uses 1GB
#2762 [20:22] <Boothk> ~700,000 kb in resource monitor
#2763 [20:22] <xales> it's not going to use all 1GB all the time
#2764 [20:22] <xales> but it will never use more than 1GB
#2765 [20:23] <Boothk> one second
#2766 [20:25] <Boothk> ok, just seems to be the old launcher that doesn't like it
#2767 [20:29] <Boothk> thanks, seems to fix the issue
#2768 [20:29] <Boothk> byebye!
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#2774 [20:38] <panitaliemom> is there a way to stop minecraft from crashing on ubuntu?
#2775 [20:39] <panitaliemom> anyone?
#2776 [20:40] <Chr|s> patience, someone will be with you
#2777 [20:40] <xales> why is it crashing, exactly?
#2778 [20:40] <Chr|s> have you tried google?
#2779 [20:40] <VoxelHead> If i tell you, i will have to kill you.
#2780 [20:40] <xales> Voxel, shut up
#2781 [20:40] <panitaliemom> its crashing for a random reason
#2782 [20:40] <panitaliemom> classic works
#2783 [20:40] <panitaliemom> but beta wont
#2784 [20:41] <Chr|s> does it have an error message of some sort?
#2785 [20:41] <Chr|s> what does the log say
#2786 [20:41] <xales> when does it crash?
#2787 [20:41] <xales> and what error, if any, does it give you
#2788 [20:42] <panitaliemom> i start the .jar file and when i type log in details it say loading... then crashes
#2789 [20:42] <xales> ??> panitaliemom linux/reinst
#2790 [20:42] <VoxelHead> panitaliemom: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2791 [20:42] <VoxelHead> panitaliemom: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#2792 [20:43] <panitaliemom> nope same
#2793 [20:43] <xales> has it ever worked?
#2794 [20:43] <panitaliemom> nope i just bought it
#2795 [20:44] <xales> Run the command `sudo lshw` in a terminal, and pastebin (http://pastebin.com/) the output
#2796 [20:44] <AG_Scott> xales, tip: sudo lshw | pastebinit
#2797 [20:44] <xales> AG_Scott: is pastebinit installed by default? :P
#2798 [20:45] <AG_Scott> dun know lol
#2799 [20:45] <panitaliemom> http://pastebin.com/yUK9QqiS
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#2801 [20:46] <ubuntuchosen> xales?
#2802 [20:46] <xales> yes?
#2803 [20:46] <ubuntuchosen> did u miss me?
#2804 [20:46] <ubuntuchosen> :D
#2805 [20:46] <ubuntuchosen> well im here again
#2806 [20:46] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2807 [20:46] <panitaliemom> does it not work on ubuntu?
#2808 [20:46] <ubuntuchosen> now i got it working on xubuntu 10.10
#2809 [20:46] <ubuntuchosen> but
#2810 [20:46] <ubuntuchosen> the only thing i didnt got working was the MP, it says "couldn't connect to minecraft.net
#2811 [20:47] <xales> panitaliemom: it works fine on Ubuntu
#2812 [20:47] <ubuntuchosen> when i run it from the website, i cant connect to any mp serv
#2813 [20:47] <xales> ubuntuchosen: check your system's time and date, make sure they are correct
#2814 [20:47] <panitaliemom> http://pastebin.com/yUK9QqiS theres the link to pastebin
#2815 [20:47] <xales> panitaliemom: it will not, unfortunately, work on your laptop. your graphics card doesn't support the technologies Minecraft needs
#2816 [20:47] <panitaliemom> DAMN
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#2818 [20:48] <panitaliemom> is there any FREE way to fix?
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#2820 [20:48] <ubuntuchosen> xales: what's the correct time right now?
#2821 [20:48] <xales> no, it's just not possible
#2822 [20:48] <ubuntuchosen> xales: i've got 01.48
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#2824 [20:48] <panitaliemom> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#2825 [20:48] <xales> ubuntuchosen: I don't know...google "time"? :P
#2826 [20:48] <ubuntuchosen> xales:D
#2827 [20:48] <xales> panitaliemom: you would need to buy a new laptop
#2828 [20:48] <xales> ubuntuchosen: I don't know your timezone :P
#2829 [20:48] <aetherian> panitaliemom: it's 17:48
#2830 [20:48] <aetherian> ;)
#2831 [20:48] <panitaliemom> nooooo thats crap
#2832 [20:48] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#2833 [20:48] <ubuntuchosen> xales: Prague
#2834 [20:49] <ubuntuchosen> xales: yes my clock's right
#2835 [20:49] <ubuntuchosen> xales: 1.49 in the morning
#2836 [20:49] <xales> ubuntuchosen: can you visit http://minecraft.net/ in a browser?
#2837 [20:49] <ubuntuchosen> xales: or night
#2838 [20:49] <ubuntuchosen> xales: yep
#2839 [20:49] <ubuntuchosen> xales: i can play the game via minecraft.net, but only sp
#2840 [20:49] <xales> are you on a school or business connection? or at home
#2841 [20:50] <ubuntuchosen> xales: home :D
#2842 [20:50] <ubuntuchosen> xales: i tried a fix from the offic. minecraft forums, but didnt help
#2843 [20:51] <ubuntuchosen> xales: i also tried running the launcher by sudo and by normal user
#2844 [20:51] <xales> open a Terminal window
#2845 [20:51] <ubuntuchosen> xales: done
#2846 [20:51] <xales> and run `host login.minecraft.net`
#2847 [20:51] <xales> what does that give you?
#2848 [20:51] <ubuntuchosen> login.minecraft.net has address 50.17.234.159
#2849 [20:52] <ubuntuchosen> what does that mean?
#2850 [20:52] <xales> one sec
#2851 [20:52] <ubuntuchosen> k
#2852 [20:52] <xales> try just `host minecraft.net`
#2853 [20:54] <ubuntuchosen> minecraft.net has address 50.16.203.217
#2854 [20:54] <ubuntuchosen> minecraft.net mail is handled by 10 mail.minecraft.net.
#2855 [20:54] <xales> hmm..those look right
#2856 [20:54] <xales> are you sure that the time, date, and year are correct?
#2857 [20:54] <ubuntuchosen> yep
#2858 [20:55] <ubuntuchosen> it's staruday 19 march 2011, 1.54
#2859 [20:55] <ubuntuchosen> * saturday
#2860 [20:57] <xales> hmm
#2861 [20:57] <ubuntuchosen> thats kinda weird isnt it?
#2862 [20:57] <xales> how long does is take before saying "timed out"?
#2863 [20:57] <ubuntuchosen> i'll try, w8 a sec
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#2865 [20:59] <ubuntuchosen> noiw
#2866 [20:59] <ubuntuchosen> now
#2867 [20:59] <ubuntuchosen> like a mintue
#2868 [20:59] <ubuntuchosen> minute
#2869 [20:59] <ubuntuchosen> cca. 1 minute
#2870 [20:59] <xales> hmm
#2871 [20:59] <ubuntuchosen> sry 4 spamming by typos
#2872 [20:59] <xales> can you play multiplayer on http://minecraft.net/play/ ?
#2873 [20:59] <ubuntuchosen> xales: what does that mean?
#2874 [20:59] <ubuntuchosen> xales: thats what im tryin
#2875 [21:00] <ubuntuchosen> xales: i cant play it via the launcher, it says can't connect to minecraft.net
#2876 [21:00] <ubuntuchosen> xales: and when i play tru the minecraft.net play, i cant connect to any MP
#2877 [21:00] <ubuntuchosen> just sp
#2878 [21:00] <xales> why can't you connect to multiplayer servers?
#2879 [21:01] <ubuntuchosen> Timed out
#2880 [21:01] <ubuntuchosen> maybe the game just cant connect to minecraft.net
#2881 [21:01] <ubuntuchosen> but it downloaded the files
#2882 [21:01] <ubuntuchosen> wtf thats weird
#2883 [21:01] <xales> do you have the firewall thing enabled?
#2884 [21:01] <ubuntuchosen> but when i get to the ingame irc of the game server i always play on, there are players
#2885 [21:01] <ubuntuchosen> xales: how to check?
#2886 [21:02] <xales> go to Terminal, run `sudo ufw off`
#2887 [21:02] <ubuntuchosen> u meant sudo ufw disable didntu , :D
#2888 [21:02] <ubuntuchosen> Firewall stopped and disabled on system startup
#2889 [21:02] <ubuntuchosen> should i restart?
#2890 [21:03] <xales> yeah
#2891 [21:03] <ubuntuchosen> ok brb
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#2893 [21:04] <ubuntuchosen> xales: back
#2894 [21:04] <ubuntuchosen> xales: gonna try
#2895 [21:05] <ubuntuchosen> xales: still can't connect to minecraft.net -__-
#2896 [21:05] <xales> Can you run `cat /etc/hosts` and pastebin it?
#2897 [21:05] <ubuntuchosen> yep
#2898 [21:06] <ubuntuchosen> http://pastebin.com/bt50g0Qz
#2899 [21:06] <xales> Nothing wrong there...that's really odd :|
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#2902 [21:06] <ubuntuchosen> :(
#2903 [21:06] * VoxelHead tickles ubuntuchosen
#2903 [21:07] * ubuntuchosen is confused
#2903 [21:07] * ubuntuchosen rly wants to play minecraft on that server
#2903 [21:07] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
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#2906 [21:08] <ubuntuchosen> VoxelHead: who?
#2907 [21:08] <VoxelHead> exeter
#2908 [21:08] <ubuntuchosen> :)
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#2910 [21:08] <ubuntuchosen> xales: so what? :(
#2911 [21:08] <xales> I have no idea :|
#2912 [21:08] <xales> ask DopeGhoti
#2913 [21:08] <ubuntuchosen> DopeGhoti: r u there?
#2914 [21:08] <ubuntuchosen> (
#2915 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> No, I'm here.
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#2917 [21:09] <ubuntuchosen> DopeGhoti: hello
#2918 [21:09] <ubuntuchosen> DopeGhoti: could u please help me with a problem on xubuntu?
#2919 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> I can try
#2920 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> but you'll need to be more specific
#2921 [21:10] <ubuntuchosen> DopeGhoti: ok
#2922 [21:10] <ubuntuchosen> im running xubuntu 10.10 x64, english language
#2923 [21:10] <ubuntuchosen> using sun java 6
#2924 [21:10] <ubuntuchosen> i am able to run minecraft
#2925 [21:10] <ubuntuchosen> but only SP
#2926 [21:10] <ubuntuchosen> via the minecraft.net applet
#2927 [21:11] <ubuntuchosen> and can't connect to any MP
#2928 [21:11] <ssen> Do you get an error of any sort?
#2929 [21:11] <ubuntuchosen> and the .jar file.. it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#2930 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> what happens when you try?
#2931 [21:11] <ubuntuchosen> DopeGhoti: in one minute, it says TIemd out
#2932 [21:11] <ubuntuchosen> timed out
#2933 [21:11] <ubuntuchosen> ssen: not at all
#2934 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? reinst/linux
#2935 [21:11] <ssen> Have you tried running it as root from the terminal?
#2936 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> err
#2937 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? linux/reinst
#2938 [21:11] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2939 [21:11] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#2940 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> ubuntuchosen - Are you running any iptable rules?
#2941 [21:11] <VoxelHead> can i have 50:50?
#2942 [21:12] <xales> GreyVulpine: Ubuntu uses UFW, which is an abstraction layer ontop of iptables
#2943 [21:12] <xales> I had him turn it off already
#2944 [21:12] <ubuntuchosen> ssen: ill try to rm rf the minecraft bin, then i'll try that
#2945 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#2946 [21:12] <aetherian> always trust a bot that tells you to rm -rf :)
#2947 [21:12] <ssen> haha
#2948 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2949 [21:12] <ubuntuchosen> lulz, i know what im doin :D
#2950 [21:12] * DopeGhoti was _very_ careful when entring that FAQ answer
#2950 [21:13] <ubuntuchosen> i can rm rf that folder manually
#2951 [21:13] <ssen> sudo rm -rf /*
#2952 [21:13] <ubuntuchosen> ok i rm rfed it and then tried to run the game via sudo java -jar minecraft.jar
#2953 [21:13] <ubuntuchosen> still the same error
#2954 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> ??+ linux/dontdothis|:():{:&:};:
#2955 [21:13] <xales> don't use sudo
#2956 [21:13] <ubuntuchosen> and the game files download only via the browser game
#2957 [21:13] <ubuntuchosen> ok xales
#2958 [21:13] <xales> don't run any game as root, ever
#2959 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> ^this
#2960 [21:14] <ssen> What?
#2961 [21:14] <ubuntuchosen> xales: ok :D
#2962 [21:14] <ssen> Why not, xales? Certain games _do_ need those permissions.
#2963 [21:14] <xales> ssen: Find one. One.
#2964 [21:14] <xales> Not a single one does
#2965 [21:14] <xales> If it does, you configured your system incorrectly
#2966 [21:15] <ssen> Regardless of what they do or do not need, occassionaly you will run into an instance where your game may be functional, but requires libs only available to the root account.
#2967 [21:15] <ssen> It happens.
#2968 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> ssen: buh wha? Show me a game that requires root to play after installation, and I'll show you a Trojan horse
#2969 [21:15] <xales> ^
#2970 [21:15] <ubuntuchosen> okay omg, now we got into this : i can run the launcher without sudo, without any game files. then again - cant connect to mc.net, but the play offline button works and when i do that i get an error
#2971 [21:15] <ubuntuchosen> gotta pastebin that ok?
#2972 [21:15] <ssen> Trojan horses...in linux.
#2973 [21:15] <ssen> Ha.
#2974 [21:15] <xales> ubuntuchosen: ok
#2975 [21:15] <ssen> The very few of those that exist are little more than script kiddies tools
#2976 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> ssen: why do you think . isn't on the bath be default? Parisian marmosets?
#2977 [21:16] <ubuntuchosen> http://pastebin.com/rmgKGRLG
#2978 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> s/bath be/payh by/
#2979 [21:16] <ssen> What in the hell did you just say
#2980 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> *sigh*
#2981 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> path*
#2982 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> ssen: why do you think . isn't in $PATH by default? Parisian marmosets?
#2983 [21:16] <ubuntuchosen> please stop, help me instead
#2984 [21:16] <ssen> That.
#2985 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> ubuntuchosen: good idea
#2986 [21:16] <ssen> Help him.
#2987 [21:17] <ubuntuchosen> sssen: u could 2
#2988 [21:17] <ubuntuchosen> DopeGhoti: look at this http://pastebin.com/rmgKGRLG
#2989 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> I am
#2990 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Interesting... something about java security?
#2991 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> looks like something has.. has gone terribly wrong with Java
#2992 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> sudo apt-get --reinstall install sun-java6-jre
#2993 [21:17] <ubuntuchosen> DopeGhoti: ok
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#2995 [21:18] <ubuntuchosen> dopeghoti: done, going to run the game once more
#2996 [21:18] <ubuntuchosen> well, the same thing again
#2997 [21:18] * VoxelHead does fun things with Eugene at night >:3
#2997 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> ubuntuchosen: sudo update-alternatives --config java
#2998 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> use java 1.6; not java 1.5
#2999 [21:19] <ubuntuchosen> DopeGhoti: im using 1.6
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#3001 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> disagreement from /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-4.4/jre/lib in that error log
#3002 [21:19] <ubuntuchosen> what now? http://pastebin.com/5mn1xeN7
#3003 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> follow the instructions: press '2', then 'Enter'
#3004 [21:20] <ubuntuchosen> i did
#3005 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> okay, now try Minecraft again
#3006 [21:20] <ubuntuchosen> I LOVE YOU
#3007 [21:21] <ubuntuchosen> IT WORKS
#3008 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8
#3009 [21:21] <ubuntuchosen> xales: can i get 8$ plz? gotta give that back in few weeks
#3010 [21:22] <ubuntuchosen> jk
#3011 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: make ubuntuchosen four two-dollar bills
#3012 [21:22] <ubuntuchosen> DopeGhoti: thanks so much :)
#3013 [21:22] * VoxelHead replicates four two-dollar bills and hands it to ubuntuchosen
#3013 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> cheers, ubuntuchosen; glad to help
#3014 [21:22] <ubuntuchosen> :)
#3015 [21:22] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3016 [21:22] <ubuntuchosen> also thanks to xales
#3017 [21:22] <xales> VoxelHead, make me a beer
#3018 [21:22] <ubuntuchosen> :D
#3019 [21:22] <xales> ubuntuchosen: no problem
#3020 [21:22] <xales> DopeGhoti: see? :<
#3021 [21:22] <ubuntuchosen> :)
#3022 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> vox, make xales a brwski
#3023 [21:23] * VoxelHead replicates a brwski for xales
#3023 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> xales: say VoxelHead: test
#3024 [21:25] <xales> VoxelHead: test
#3025 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Ooooo.. achievements and stats for minecraft
#3026 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> I sm.. baffled
#3027 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> er, am
#3028 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#3029 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> "Achievements will NOT be chores like “cut down 10000 trees”, but rather challenges like “ride a pig off a cliff”. Stats, however, will be used to keep track of how many trees you have cut down. The long term plan is to show achievements and stats from the profile page on minecraft.net as well, in case you want to brag."
#3030 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Hah, aww, the wolves sit and shake when wet..
#3031 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> And they're vicious too.. man
#3032 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> finally
#3033 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> something to shut those damnable cows up
#3034 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> <3
#3035 [21:32] <relsqui> haha yes
#3036 [21:32] <VoxelHead> Why was there bacon in the soap?
#3037 [21:32] <relsqui> the "pig off a cliff" example cracked me up
#3038 [21:33] <relsqui> I was disappointed by "stats" though, I was hoping it was going to be like ... progress/abilities
#3039 [21:33] <relsqui> not that I know what one would do with that in mc
#3040 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead, I made it myself!
#3041 [21:37] <ubuntuchosen> guys?
#3042 [21:37] <ubuntuchosen> what do you think about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Lp9p5yjuo ?
#3043 [21:37] <ubuntuchosen> isn't that cute?
#3044 [21:38] <relsqui> yup
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#3046 [21:41] <Juan> I downloaded the stand alone SMP exececutable and it is running. Now how do I interact with the server? How do I gain access to the console?
#3047 [21:42] <Juan> There doe snot appear to be an obvious way to interact with it.
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#3054 [21:43] <ubuntuchosen> juan: windows?
#3055 [21:43] <Juan> Yes
#3056 [21:43] <ubuntuchosen> juan: i think u have to edit the server properties [can be found in the directory where the executable is too]
#3057 [21:43] <ubuntuchosen> juan: and then add yourself as an op
#3058 [21:43] <ubuntuchosen> juan: and then sign into the server and control it via admin
#3059 [21:44] <ubuntuchosen> juan: im not actually into this stuff, so i dont know properly, but this could help.
#3060 [21:44] <ubuntuchosen> juan: gl
#3061 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Juan - Did you download minecraft_server.exe?
#3062 [21:44] <Juan> Ahh. I see where the exectubable crated a series of text files.
#3063 [21:45] <Juan> Can someone point me to some documentation?
#3064 [21:45] <Juan> @GreyVulpine, yes
#3065 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> If you used minecraft_server.exe, you can use the console that opens up.
#3066 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> The bottom box should be a text box you can use to type in
#3067 [21:45] <Juan> Silly me. Right in front of me.
#3068 [21:45] <Juan> thx
#3069 [21:45] <Juan> Where can I get a list of commands?
#3070 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Type "Help" in the box
#3071 [21:46] <Juan> bah, silly me aganki
#3072 [21:46] <Juan> tyeah
#3073 [21:46] <Juan> help
#3074 [21:46] <ubuntuchosen> juan: gl & hf :D
#3075 [21:46] <Juan> thx
#3076 [21:46] <ubuntuchosen> enjoy the game )
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#3080 [22:15] * VoxelHead is away: out
#3080 [22:16] <bread> oh no!
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#3082 [22:24] <DarkSlayerEX> i'm having an issue that's confusing me
#3083 [22:24] <DarkSlayerEX> i just reformatted my computer, and reinstalled java and redownloaded Minecraft, but after it downloads the files, it doesn't load up the game..
#3084 [22:25] <DarkSlayerEX> an error log also appears
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#3086 [22:25] <Chr|s> anyone know of some cheap decent reliable server hosting?
#3087 [22:26] <Chr|s> can be out of US too
#3088 [22:27] <DarkSlayerEX> looks like no one else is here
#3089 [22:27] <BarryCarlyon> The box in my house is reliable.
#3090 [22:27] <BarryCarlyon> I'm about to logoff DarkSlayerEX otherwise I would help.
#3091 [22:27] <DarkSlayerEX> i see =/
#3092 [22:27] <DarkSlayerEX> oh well
#3093 [22:27] <BarryCarlyon> First thing to do is to update your gfx card drivers from the gfx card vendor site.
#3094 [22:27] <DarkSlayerEX> i did
#3095 [22:27] <DarkSlayerEX> oh wait.
#3096 [22:27] <DarkSlayerEX> i still have to restart my computer
#3097 [22:27] <DarkSlayerEX> LOL
#3098 [22:28] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#3099 [22:28] <DarkSlayerEX> i'm stupid
#3100 [22:28] <DarkSlayerEX> thanks
#3101 [22:28] <DarkSlayerEX> i'm going to try that
#3102 [22:29] <bread> derp
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#3108 [22:57] * VoxelHead is back
#3108 [23:04] * BarryCarlyon hugs VoxelHead
#3108 [23:04] <VoxelHead> *squeaky*
#3109 [23:07] <bread> hi VoxelHead
#3110 [23:07] <VoxelHead> :)
#3111 [23:07] <bread> :)
#3112 [23:07] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3113 [23:07] <bread> :D
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#3115 [23:24] <aetherian> hey bread
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#3119 [23:27] <Juan> What are the optimal requirements to run a minecraft SMP server with up to 8 players?
#3120 [23:27] <xales> 2GB RAM, just for the server
#3121 [23:27] <xales> 2.6GHz-ish processor
#3122 [23:28] <xales> if you are running it on the same computer you want to play on, you will need a faster processor than that
#3123 [23:28] <aetherian> how about internet speed?
#3124 [23:28] <Juan> How about upstream?
#3125 [23:29] <xales> about 1.5mbps should do
#3126 [23:29] <xales> but expect lag at times with anything less than 4 or 5
#3127 [23:29] <Juan> Cool.
#3128 [23:29] <VoxelHead> Coooooool.
#3129 [23:29] <Juan> Would a vhost due or would I absolutely need a dedicated machine?
#3130 [23:29] <xales> vhost?
#3131 [23:29] <Chr|s> vps
#3132 [23:29] <Juan> virtual host
#3133 [23:29] <xales> vhost as in, VPS/virtual server?
#3134 [23:30] <Juan> tyes
#3135 [23:30] <Juan> yes
#3136 [23:30] <xales> it depends on how it is run, and how much RAM it has
#3137 [23:30] <xales> an OpenVZ one will not work
#3138 [23:30] <xales> a Xen one should work fine
#3139 [23:30] <Chr|s> Juan: http://www.linode.com/ :D
#3140 [23:30] <Juan> thx chris
#3141 [23:31] <xales> if you intend on running a server, I highly suggest that you have some experience with the Linux CLI beforehand
#3142 [23:31] <xales> (also, stay away from CentOS if possible :|)
#3143 [23:31] <Chr|s> yes, its not easy as cake
#3144 [23:31] <Chr|s> well, once you learn the basics of cli it is
#3145 [23:31] <aetherian> CentOS o.o
#3146 [23:31] <Chr|s> im still new and learning it...all over
#3147 [23:32] <bread> yay linux
#3148 [23:32] <bread> \o/
#3149 [23:32] <aetherian> yay freax \o/
#3150 [23:33] <Chr|s> lol
#3151 [23:33] <Chr|s> Mine Freak :D
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#3153 [23:34] <aetherian> why is my internet failing so...
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#3158 [23:40] <Chr|s> aetherian: who is your isp
#3159 [23:41] <aetherian> at&t, regrettably
#3160 [23:41] <aetherian> stupid DSL...
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#3163 [23:45] <voluum> hey
#3164 [23:46] <voluum> paying somebody $5 if they can get the /sethome mod or whatever running on my mc server
#3165 [23:46] <voluum> and change the default server spawn
#3166 [23:46] <voluum> I'm renting an mc server from quadeye.com.au
#3167 [23:46] <voluum> so yeah
#3168 [23:46] <voluum> anyone interetsed?
#3169 [23:46] <voluum> $10 if you get it done fast
#3170 [23:46] <aetherian> ??> voluum mods
#3171 [23:46] <VoxelHead> voluum: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3172 [23:46] <VoxelHead> voluum: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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