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#7 [00:20] <VoxelHead> i like them ^_^
#8 [00:21] <aetherian> VoxelHead: fire everything at VoxelHead
#9 [00:21] <VoxelHead> Don't be so silly. Sir.
#10 [00:23] <xales> aetherian: join #Minecraft a sec
#11 [00:23] <xales> I have super funny bot talking in there
#12 [00:23] <xales> more fun than VoxelHead
#13 [00:23] <aetherian> xales: why...
#14 [00:23] <aetherian> you know I don't ever want to join that pit
#15 [00:24] <xales> just do it for a sec
#16 [00:24] <aetherian> in there, on another name.
#17 [00:24] <aetherian> I go in and
#18 [00:25] <aetherian> he stops?
#19 [00:25] <aetherian> .-.
#20 [00:25] <Chr|s> lol
#21 [00:25] <aetherian> ...nick bot\
#22 [00:26] <Chr|s> aetherian: SIKE! we got you!
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#24 [00:26] <aetherian> I already left, haha
#25 [00:26] <VoxelHead> come my filthy stink children, in accordance with my master's thesis on the Legend of Zelda
#26 [00:26] <Chr|s> wtf
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#34 [00:48] <VoxelHead> bye helloworld111
#35 [00:48] <bread> hi VoxelHead
#36 [00:48] <VoxelHead> =)
#37 [00:49] <bread> :D
#38 [00:49] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#39 [00:49] <bread> <
#40 [00:49] <bread> <3
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#42 [01:13] <rawkjawk> =/
#43 [01:14] <Chr|s> =\
#44 [01:14] <rawkjawk> lol ended up falling asleep when i put my daughter to bed
#45 [01:14] <Chr|s> heh
#46 [01:14] <VoxelHead> ;)
#47 [01:17] <rawkjawk> is it okay to feel cheated out of not utalizing your 23 bux for this game because your private server sucks?
#48 [01:18] <rawkjawk> the only idea i could come up with to remotely have a faster server is to use hamatchi
#49 [01:19] <rawkjawk> BUT ive never messed with it and its an unfamiliar program to me
#50 [01:22] <rawkjawk> does anyone in here have a server they wouldnt mind me and a friend testing some stuff out on
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#52 [01:25] <relsqui> the nice thing about minecraft, relative to a subscription game, is that you always have another chance to get your money's worth
#53 [01:25] <rawkjawk> hmm i honestly feel a bit cheated
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#55 [01:26] <rawkjawk> thats one of the things i was really interested in doing and want to really utalize everything mc has to offer
#56 [01:26] <ddl303> hey guys
#57 [01:26] * relsqui nods
#57 [01:26] <relsqui> are you running it off a home network or off a hosted server somewhere?
#58 [01:26] <ddl303> im havin g some server troubles
#59 [01:26] <rawkjawk> home network
#60 [01:26] <rawkjawk> off of this computer thats hardwired into my modem
#61 [01:27] <relsqui> yeah. it's possible but very difficult to run a good server from home.
#62 [01:27] <rawkjawk> but the thing that sucks is im running 3mb download limit dsl
#63 [01:27] <rawkjawk> with an amd athlon single core processor lmao
#64 [01:27] <relsqui> heh
#65 [01:27] <VoxelHead> =]
#66 [01:28] <relsqui> I don't know a lot about server administration; I play on a private server that a friend of mine runs. but if you hang around someone will probably turn up who's more helpful.
#67 [01:28] <ddl303> Everytime someone is on my server (excluding me) after about a minute my internet on this computer completely goes out
#68 [01:28] <xales> ddl303: it's a known problem - Kealper can probably help you with it, if it'x fixable
#69 [01:28] <xales> it's not always, sadly :|
#70 [01:29] <Kealper> most times it is not :/
#71 [01:29] <ddl303> oh no
#72 [01:29] <Kealper> but, if you want to give it a shot, i can tell you how to check
#73 [01:29] <ddl303> ok i have TV
#74 [01:29] <Kealper> it is fairly easy for me to just tell you lol
#75 [01:29] <Kealper> it's not complicated
#76 [01:29] <ddl303> ok
#77 [01:30] <relsqui> (see? told you! useful people. ;))
#78 [01:30] <ddl303> tell me
#79 [01:30] <Kealper> ok, first off...what version of windows?
#80 [01:30] <ddl303> XP
#81 [01:30] <ddl303> professional SP3
#82 [01:30] <Kealper> do you see the My Computer icon on your desktop?
#83 [01:30] <ddl303> yes
#84 [01:30] <Kealper> right click on it, click on Properties
#85 [01:31] <Kealper> that should bring up something called System Properties
#86 [01:31] <ddl303> k
#87 [01:31] <ddl303> yes i see it
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#89 [01:31] <Kealper> there should be a Hardware tab, click that
#90 [01:31] <ddl303> k
#91 [01:31] <Kealper> click the button that says Device Manager
#92 [01:31] <ddl303> clicked
#93 [01:32] <Kealper> see a dropdown list inside Device Manager called Network adapters?
#94 [01:32] <ddl303> yes
#95 [01:32] <Kealper> click that to drop it down, that should show your network adapter
#96 [01:32] <Kealper> is there just one or is there more than one?
#97 [01:33] <ddl303> Realtek PCIe FE Family Controller
#98 [01:33] <ddl303> thats the only one
#99 [01:33] <Kealper> double click it
#100 [01:33] <Kealper> click on Advanced in that Properties window that just came up
#101 [01:33] <Kealper> see the spot labled Property:?
#102 [01:34] <ddl303> yes
#103 [01:34] <Kealper> scroll through there, and look for something called Recieve Buffers and Transmit Buffers
#104 [01:34] <Kealper> or anything that looks like it says something called "buffer" in it
#105 [01:35] <ddl303> not there
#106 [01:35] <Kealper> :/
#107 [01:35] <Kealper> looks like that one can't be changed either :/
#108 [01:35] <ddl303> i got two things with "offload" in them
#109 [01:35] <Kealper> no, those arn't the things
#110 [01:35] <ddl303> :(
#111 [01:35] <VoxelHead> Aww
#112 [01:35] * VoxelHead hugs ddl303.
#112 [01:36] <Kealper> xales: 20k / 27k, this one should be fully parsed and ready to go
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#114 [01:36] <Kealper> xales: this really seems to slow down at the end by a LOT :<
#115 [01:36] <Kealper> ddl303: do you have any other network card?
#116 [01:36] <Kealper> (even a wireless one, anything)
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#123 [01:49] <bud> ok got a good question
#124 [01:49] <bud> lol
#125 [01:50] <bud> Is there a .jar associated with the windows version of beta?
#126 [01:50] <bud> if so where do I find it?
#127 [01:50] <xales> what do you mean?
#128 [01:50] <bud> ok
#129 [01:50] <xales> a .jar for what?
#130 [01:50] <bud> like a minecraft.jar
#131 [01:51] <bud> file
#132 [01:51] <aetherian> the same one for both
#133 [01:51] <xales> the launcher? or the actual game? and why are you looking for it?
#134 [01:51] <bud> ok I bought the game yesterday
#135 [01:51] <bud> and I am interested in using mods for it
#136 [01:51] <aetherian> ohhh
#137 [01:51] <bud> but most have to go into the .jar file
#138 [01:51] <aetherian> %appdata% then
#139 [01:52] <bud> ooooh ok
#140 [01:52] <bud> thanks you soooo much
#141 [01:52] <aetherian> (or ~/.minecraft
#142 [01:52] <aetherian> but yeah
#143 [01:52] <aetherian> %appdata%/roaming/.minecraft
#144 [01:52] <xales> no
#145 [01:52] <bread> %APPDATA%/.minecraft
#146 [01:52] <xales> just %appdata%
#147 [01:52] <xales> no /roaming
#148 [01:52] <aetherian> eh?
#149 [01:52] <aetherian> waddya mean?
#150 [01:53] <bud> actually
#151 [01:53] <bud> roaming is in the address
#152 [01:53] <bud> I just searched windows thru
#153 [01:53] <aetherian> >:
#154 [01:53] <bud> the start menu
#155 [01:53] <xales> aetherian: %appdata% points to roamind.
#156 [01:53] <xales> roaming*
#157 [01:53] <bud> for %appdata%
#158 [01:53] <aetherian> I know
#159 [01:53] <aetherian> it points there
#160 [01:53] <aetherian> but it still exists
#161 [01:53] <aetherian> and I like to be thorough
#162 [01:54] <aetherian> that's why you'll see me saying how to do it on telnet for irc commands :)
#163 [01:54] <bud> thoroughness is never a bad thing :)
#164 [01:55] <aetherian> ehh
#165 [01:55] <aetherian> you'd be surprised :)
#166 [01:55] <bud> now to peak my curiosity..... through you guys experience..... do SP mods negatively affect MP mode?
#167 [01:56] <bud> cuz if it does, then its not worth it to me lol
#168 [01:56] <xales> not usualy
#169 [01:56] <xales> usually*
#170 [01:56] <aetherian> peak?
#171 [01:56] <bud> ok just wanted to make sure
#172 [01:56] <aetherian> the torch holding lighting up the area thing
#173 [01:56] <aetherian> works in mp as well
#174 [01:56] <aetherian> iirc
#175 [01:57] <bud> :) that sounds awesome
#176 [01:57] <bud> hopefully they can clear the MP bug with 1.3 soon...
#177 [01:58] <bud> can't wait to try out MP
#178 [01:58] <bud> I hear it is soooo much easier to clear mobs with MP
#179 [01:59] <bud> ok I have another question
#180 [02:00] <bud> I know I am prolly aggrivating you guys...
#181 [02:00] <bud> but how would mods already be in my .jar file?
#182 [02:00] <xales> the stuff in there is probably the core game stuff
#183 [02:00] <xales> mods just replace it
#184 [02:00] <bud> one of the ones I was looking at... worldedit already exist
#185 [02:00] <bud> in there
#186 [02:00] <bud> and there is beta 1.2_02 in it as well :/
#187 [02:01] <bud> there are two .jar files in my minecraft folder, just noticed
#188 [02:01] <bud> one is minecraft.jar
#189 [02:02] <xales> you...have a legit copy, right? not a pirated one? :|
#190 [02:02] <bud> and the other is minecraft 1.2_02
#191 [02:02] <bud> yes I do
#192 [02:02] <bud> I bought it yesterday
#193 [02:02] <xales> well, they don't spontaneously appear
#194 [02:02] <xales> are you sure...? :|
#195 [02:02] <bud> yep, check me out
#196 [02:02] <bud> my screename is buddy1987
#197 [02:04] <bud> which this could be the source of my MP problems.... :/
#198 [02:04] <bud> would my best bet be to get rid of both the .jar files and put in a new one?
#199 [02:04] <xales> just delete the entire 'bin' folder
#200 [02:04] <xales> it will redownload automatically
#201 [02:04] <bud> ok
#202 [02:07] <bud> thanks that did it :)
#203 [02:07] <bud> hopefully that resolved my issues with MP as well
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#205 [02:09] <bud> nope didn't resolve those issues.... holding out for the next update to fix those lol
#206 [02:10] <bud> but it did take care of the double .jar file
#207 [02:10] <Bob_Sack> sup josh
#208 [02:10] <aetherian> uh oh
#209 [02:10] <aetherian> this will end badly
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#211 [02:10] <bud> thanks for all your help xales and aetharian
#212 [02:10] <xales> no problem
#213 [02:10] <bud> you guys have been awesome
#214 [02:10] <aetherian> what'd I do again?
#215 [02:11] <bud> I thanked you for all you guys help :)
#216 [02:11] <aetherian> I mean, it's a given that I'm awesome, but
#217 [02:11] <bud> you guys here are great with all the tech stuff here at MCHelp
#218 [02:11] <aetherian> you can just ask my ego that. he's over there holding down the fort.
#219 [02:11] <bud> Kealper practically pulled apart my computer and network all day
#220 [02:12] <bud> going through issues i am having with multiplayer
#221 [02:12] <xales> Joshua: sup?
#222 [02:12] <bud> and the only thing we could figure is that, I am victim to the 1.3 lag bug
#223 [02:12] <xales> it's not a "bug"
#224 [02:12] <xales> try turning off smooth lighting
#225 [02:12] <bud> tried it all...
#226 [02:12] <bud> my gameplay doesn't lag
#227 [02:13] <xales> what does, then?
#228 [02:13] <bud> the chat does and then after minutes I get disconnected
#229 [02:13] <xales> ah
#230 [02:13] <xales> what error?
#231 [02:13] <bud> Internal Socket error with java
#232 [02:13] <bud> and we diagnosed my speed and specs
#233 [02:13] <bud> they are fine
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#235 [02:13] <bud> and the server I am connecting to is hosted by a company
#236 [02:14] <bud> so nothing other than just a game issue at the moment as far as Kealper determined should be causing it
#237 [02:14] <xales> any firewall running?
#238 [02:14] <xales> try disabling it if there is one
#239 [02:15] <bud> nope tried disabling that the other nite and it didn't resolve
#240 [02:15] <xales> no idea then :|
#241 [02:15] <Kealper> methinks it might be that weirdness that has random people lagging for no reason on 1.3 :/
#242 [02:15] <bud> ooh Hey kealper :)
#243 [02:15] * Redskye loves movecraft
#243 [02:15] * Kealper waves
#243 [02:15] <VoxelHead> I like them :-)
#244 [02:15] <Jerub> movecraft?
#245 [02:16] <VoxelHead> Penguins.
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#247 [02:16] <bread> Penguins are awesome.
#248 [02:16] <bread> Hi Joshua
#249 [02:16] <bud> hey kealper, guess what... got to looking in the bin folder just a few mins ago
#250 [02:16] <bud> and I had two .jar files, and worldedit in there
#251 [02:16] <bud> that was very strange
#252 [02:16] <Kealper> O.o
#253 [02:16] <Kealper> didn't you already delete all the stuff in .minecraft?
#254 [02:16] <xales> Joshua: derp derp?
#255 [02:17] <Kealper> (like...multiple times?)
#256 [02:17] <xales> !learn
#257 [02:17] <xales> !learning
#258 [02:17] <Joshua> Learning mode on
#259 [02:17] <bud> ya, so I deleted the bin folder and let it redownload
#260 [02:17] <Joshua> would you do it ?
#261 [02:17] <bud> yes I did, which is very odd
#262 [02:17] <Joshua> is evil !
#263 [02:17] <bread> hi Joshua
#264 [02:17] <Joshua> bread
#265 [02:17] <bread> Joshua:
#266 [02:17] <bread> :D
#267 [02:17] <Kealper> why does Joshua put spaces before the punchuation :/
#268 [02:17] <VoxelHead> -_-
#269 [02:17] <xales> Kealper: I have no idea
#270 [02:17] <Joshua> you guys have been awesome
#271 [02:17] <xales> ask tmtgr about it
#272 [02:18] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: that's what she said
#273 [02:18] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :(
#274 [02:18] <bread> I know how you feel VoxelHead
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#276 [02:18] <bud> but you guys should win a web award for your awesome tech support here
#277 [02:18] <xales> Kealper
#278 [02:18] <bud> honestly
#279 [02:18] <xales> do an !help
#280 [02:18] <Joshua> you do it ?
#281 [02:19] <Kealper> bud: thanks lol, very rarely do people actually thanks us :/
#282 [02:19] <xales> ^
#283 [02:19] <bud> you deserve it
#284 [02:19] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: that's what she said
#285 [02:19] <bud> Kealper when I first came to minecraft
#286 [02:19] <Joshua> what she said
#287 [02:19] <Joshua> need to go
#288 [02:19] <bread> bye Joshua
#289 [02:19] <xales> Kealper
#290 [02:19] <Joshua> talk to me xales
#291 [02:19] <xales> do !help
#292 [02:19] <xales> :|
#293 [02:19] <Kealper> !help
#294 [02:19] <Joshua> Pyborg commands:
#295 [02:19] <Joshua> !checkdict, !contexts, !help, !known, !learning, !rebuilddict, !replace, !unlearn, !purge, !version, !words, !limit, !alias, !save, !censor, !uncensor, !owner
#296 [02:19] <Joshua> IRC Module Commands:
#297 [02:19] <Joshua> !chans, !ignore, !join, !nick, !part, !quit, !quitmsg, !reply2ignored, !replyrate, !shutup, !stealth, !unignore, !wakeup, !talk, !owner
#298 [02:19] <Joshua> AuBot !
#299 [02:20] <Kealper> FLOOD
#300 [02:20] <xales> what on earth
#301 [02:20] <Joshua> what on earth
#302 [02:20] <bread> omg :o
#303 [02:20] <xales> that was more commands than it normally lists, lol
#304 [02:20] <Chr|s> done
#305 [02:20] <xales> !help
#306 [02:20] <Joshua> Pyborg commands:
#307 [02:20] <Joshua> !checkdict, !contexts, !help, !known, !learning, !rebuilddict, !replace, !unlearn, !purge, !version, !words, !limit, !alias, !save, !censor, !uncensor, !owner
#308 [02:20] <Joshua> IRC Module Commands:
#309 [02:20] <Joshua> !chans, !ignore, !join, !nick, !part, !quit, !quitmsg, !reply2ignored, !replyrate, !shutup, !stealth, !unignore, !wakeup, !talk, !owner
#310 [02:20] <aetherian> I am so saving all this
#311 [02:20] <Kealper> stop spamming the channel :/
#312 [02:20] <bacon> lol
#313 [02:20] <bread> !words
#314 [02:20] <Joshua> and this how about a nice game of chess ?
#315 [02:20] <xales> oh derp
#316 [02:20] <xales> that's aubot
#317 [02:20] <Chr|s> lol
#318 [02:20] <xales> :|
#319 [02:20] * xales is DEEERRRPPPPP
#319 [02:21] <bread> ^
#320 [02:21] <bread> Joshua: u r derp
#321 [02:21] <aetherian> that was a given, xales
#322 [02:21] <bud> you helped me with classic server issues which you didn't have to do, that was three months ago... and you probably don't remember writing that program for me a while back when my cmdprompt was screwy... but I do... You guys go the extra mile to help MCers enjoy their gaming
#323 [02:21] <Joshua> you guys help : )
#324 [02:21] <bud> experience
#325 [02:21] <bud> and that alone deservs Thanks
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#327 [02:22] <Chr|s> xales: http://pastebin.com/T4sJ3xcG
#328 [02:22] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: i am derp dee herpa derpa
#329 [02:23] <bud> Kealper do you remember that? writing that .exe version of that .bat file?
#330 [02:23] <bud> it was like three months ago lol
#331 [02:23] <Kealper> indeed, i remembered you once i seen your ingame username after joining my server :P
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#333 [02:24] <Chr|s> joined both mcchater and help/
#334 [02:24] <bud> :P well more people should thank you guys for your hard work.... because you didn't have to do that for me, classic was obsolete already by that time
#335 [02:24] <Joshua> award for your awesome tech support here
#336 [02:24] <bud> but you took the time to help a noob
#337 [02:24] <xales> Chr|s: loaded it!
#338 [02:24] <Joshua> xales !
#339 [02:24] <xales> !known Falken
#340 [02:24] <Joshua> falken is known (2 contexts)
#341 [02:24] <Chr|s> awesome
#342 [02:24] <Kealper> bud: i do what i can lol
#343 [02:24] <xales> !contexts Falken
#344 [02:24] <Joshua> Contexts containing "falken":
#345 [02:24] <Joshua> and this greetings professor falken
#346 [02:24] <Joshua> greetings , professor falken
#347 [02:25] <Chr|s> get read of that one
#348 [02:25] <Kealper> do pyborg have to send to the channel for stuff like that? ._.
#349 [02:25] <Chr|s> and this greetings professor falken
#350 [02:25] <xales> Kealper: no, not really
#351 [02:25] <Kealper> the other ops are going to have kittens when they see this lol
#352 [02:25] <xales> :P
#353 [02:25] <xales> well
#354 [02:25] <xales> I'll turn it almost-off
#355 [02:25] <Joshua> tmtgr about it
#356 [02:25] <xales> !silent
#357 [02:25] <xales> what was it
#358 [02:26] <xales> ah
#359 [02:26] <xales> you can use !shutup
#360 [02:26] <Joshua> you can't resolve those issues
#361 [02:26] <Chr|s> ah
#362 [02:26] <Kealper> no, no you can't
#363 [02:26] <xales> Kealper, what?
#364 [02:26] <Kealper> how do you get it to un-shutup?
#365 [02:26] <Joshua> get disconnected
#366 [02:26] <Bob_Sack> josh is making more sense than he did in #mcchatter
#367 [02:26] <xales> it's !wakeup
#368 [02:26] <Kealper> xales: i should have hilighted Joshua for that lol
#369 [02:26] <xales> oh
#370 [02:26] <Joshua> oh
#371 [02:26] <xales> :|
#372 [02:26] <xales> !shutup
#373 [02:26] <Chr|s> o.o
#374 [02:26] <Kealper> Joshua: copycat :/
#375 [02:26] <xales> Joshua: derp derp?
#376 [02:27] <bud> well, I am off to bed :) but you should know I am a blonde, so there will probably be a reason for me to come back tomorrow... says something about me, that I recognize you guys, from being in here so much lol
#377 [02:27] <Kealper> we're usually here lol
#378 [02:27] <Chr|s> Joshua: Chess
#379 [02:28] * Kealper waves to bud
#379 [02:28] <Chr|s> thought that may trigger it
#380 [02:28] <bud> lol. thanks, I am probably you guys most frequent visitor....
#381 [02:28] * bud waves to Kealper
#381 [02:28] * Chr|s waves
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#383 [02:28] <VoxelHead> Bye joshua.
#384 [02:28] <xales> wewt
#385 [02:28] <Kealper> hmm...it's like 2:30 am...i should probably get to bed soon-ish
#386 [02:28] <Joshua> like 2 : 30 am
#387 [02:29] <Chr|s> wb Joshua
#388 [02:29] <xales> got rid of the debugging stuff
#389 [02:29] <Joshua> care of the double
#390 [02:29] <Kealper> yay! now i don't get spammed with debug crap now!
#391 [02:29] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: that's what she said
#392 [02:29] <Chr|s> doh!
#393 [02:30] <bread> Kealper: get outta my timezone
#394 [02:30] <bread> :O
#395 [02:30] <Kealper> hmm...how configurable is Pyborg?
#396 [02:30] <Joshua> how do you want quotes seperated by a company
#397 [02:30] <VoxelHead> ooh 'eck
#398 [02:30] <Joshua> is my favourite log of all times
#399 [02:30] <Kealper> bread: i was here first!
#400 [02:30] <Chr|s> lol
#401 [02:30] <AG_Scott> Kealper, no!
#402 [02:30] <AG_Scott> stay up
#403 [02:30] <bread> Kealper: yeah probably
#404 [02:30] <bread> lol
#405 [02:30] <Joshua> lol
#406 [02:30] <bread> Joshua r derp
#407 [02:30] <AG_Scott> be a man.
#408 [02:30] <Joshua> that'll be a chatterbox ?
#409 [02:31] <Chr|s> All your base are belong to us
#410 [02:31] <AG_Scott> its 1:30 here and I'm bored out of my mind
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#412 [02:31] <Kealper> AG_Scott: i never said i was going to sleep....just that i was going to detach screen lol
#413 [02:31] <Joshua> i was going to kick his dropboxes ass tomorrow
#414 [02:31] <Joshua> i'm supposed to be a reason for me
#415 [02:31] <VoxelHead> dropboxes ass-tomorrow
#416 [02:31] <AG_Scott> :<
#417 [02:31] <bread> :>
#418 [02:31] <Joshua> d : <
#419 [02:31] <Kealper> LOL
#420 [02:31] <Joshua> lol
#421 [02:31] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#422 [02:31] <Kealper> i know what vox was supposed to do
#423 [02:31] <Joshua> what she said
#424 [02:31] <Chr|s> oh my
#425 [02:31] <Joshua> oh
#426 [02:31] <Chr|s> lmao
#427 [02:31] <Bob_Sack> hahaha
#428 [02:31] <AG_Scott> testing ass hello
#429 [02:31] <VoxelHead> testing ass-hello
#430 [02:31] <AG_Scott> :D
#431 [02:31] <AG_Scott> stupid bot.
#432 [02:32] <AG_Scott> why does it do that?
#433 [02:32] <Kealper> raging-ass clown
#434 [02:32] <VoxelHead> raging ass-clown
#435 [02:32] <Kealper> that.
#436 [02:32] <Joshua> is that, i am so saving all this
#437 [02:32] <AG_Scott> Is it some joke i don't understand?
#438 [02:32] <Kealper> it's an XKCD reference
#439 [02:32] <Bob_Sack> do we really need 2 dumb-as-shit bots in here?
#440 [02:32] <Joshua> worldedit in there
#441 [02:32] <Chr|s> lol
#442 [02:32] <aetherian> Bob_Sack: that's what I thought, but yes we do
#443 [02:32] <AG_Scott> yes Bob_Sack
#444 [02:32] <AG_Scott> n00bs will talk to it and argue with it
#445 [02:32] <AG_Scott> it's freaking hilarious
#446 [02:32] <bread> angry poop-fist
#447 [02:32] <Bob_Sack> good point
#448 [02:33] <bread> damn
#449 [02:33] <Joshua> what was it's freaking hilarious
#450 [02:33] <bread> lol
#451 [02:33] <Joshua> lol
#452 [02:33] <Kealper> especially Joshua, since it can argue back lol
#453 [02:33] <AG_Scott> n00blets fighting with the retarded bots
#454 [02:33] <Chr|s> lmao
#455 [02:33] <xales> joshua brb again
#456 [02:33] <Joshua> bye joshua
#457 [02:33] <Chr|s> can't wait to see this
#458 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> I may have to put Voxelhead's AI thingy up for a vote here.
#459 [02:34] <Kealper> although it might take a while for it to become semi-sentient, it's got to gather logs from here
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#461 [02:34] <xales> haha
#462 [02:34] <xales> auto-ident!
#463 [02:34] <Joshua> do an ! help
#464 [02:34] <Chr|s> !help
#465 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> I'm not too keen on it just blurting out stuff, but on the other hand, it is funny.. at times
#466 [02:34] <Kealper> yeah...i guess we can kill vox's AI now...it does not trap many noobs anymore :/
#467 [02:34] <Joshua> : /
#468 [02:34] <xales> nou, Joshua
#469 [02:34] <Joshua> i'm supposed to be a chatterbox ?
#470 [02:34] <Bob_Sack> yes joshua
#471 [02:34] <xales> GreyVulpine: I'm going to try to get it to only talk when mentioned
#472 [02:34] <Joshua> and the only winning move is to not play
#473 [02:34] <Joshua> yes i did, which is very odd
#474 [02:34] <bread> omg xales how'd you do it?
#475 [02:35] <Kealper> xales: isn't that how Shirka is?
#476 [02:35] <bread> yeah
#477 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> That'd be nice xales, be great if we could shut it up for longer periods as well
#478 [02:35] <xales> bread: find on_welcome in pyborg-irc.py and add "c.privmsg("NickServ", "IDENTIFY pass")" to it
#479 [02:35] <xales> GreyVulpine: like this
#480 [02:35] <bread> xales: YAY
#481 [02:35] <xales> 02:35:17 <xales> !shutup
#482 [02:35] <xales> 02:35:17 <Joshua> I'll be quiet :-(
#483 [02:35] <xales> !wakeup
#484 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#485 [02:35] <xales> nah, doesn't work in the channel
#486 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> Joshua = another bot?
#487 [02:35] <Kealper> see? even fooled grey
#488 [02:36] <xales> lol
#489 [02:36] <Chr|s> lol
#490 [02:36] <Kealper> noobs have no chance >:D
#491 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> No, I just didn't see em, been in #%$?!@&
#492 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> er
#493 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> crap
#494 [02:36] <Kealper> *pokerface*
#495 [02:36] * GreyVulpine whistles
#495 [02:37] <bread> awww yeah xales it worked for me too
#496 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Wish greybot was here.. could flood that off
#497 [02:38] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: what a secretive unpredictable name
#498 [02:38] <VoxelHead> we all know AuBot likes to rinse themselves with an elbow :o)
#499 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> secretive?
#500 [02:38] <bread> looool
#501 [02:38] <VoxelHead> Orange.
#502 [02:38] <Joshua> you should know i am a blonde, so there will probably be
#503 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> I've had this name for a decade
#504 [02:38] <aetherian> I meant #%$?!@&
#505 [02:38] <aetherian> after you whistled
#506 [02:38] <aetherian> .-.
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#508 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> I know nothing of what you speak of
#509 [02:39] <aetherian> uh huh
#510 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> So, how about them <insert local sports team here>
#511 [02:39] <aetherian> nah
#512 [02:39] <bread> oh I love them
#513 [02:39] <aetherian> I don't follow sports
#514 [02:39] <aetherian> moreso following videogames
#515 [02:40] <bread> so how about that Dragon Age II
#516 [02:40] <Chr|s> I don't follow sports, they follow me.
#517 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> I bet you they'll beat <insert rival sports team here>
#518 [02:40] * Joshua [Joshua@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#519 [02:40] <bread> hello Joshua
#520 [02:40] <Chr|s> Joshua: Hi
#521 [02:40] <Chr|s> It's dead
#522 [02:40] <bread> hey Joshua
#523 [02:41] <bread> Joshua y u no talk to me
#524 [02:41] <Joshua> you can't talk to me
#525 [02:41] <bread> ha
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#529 [02:45] <xales> Joshua: derp derp?
#530 [02:45] <xales> Joshua: ding-dong
#531 [02:45] <xales> I think it wil only talk now if I mention it's name
#532 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> So uh, what does Joshua do.. besides chat?
#533 [02:45] <Chr|s> I think he is broke
#534 [02:46] <xales> just talk - it's designed to learn and talk
#535 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> .. okay.
#536 [02:46] <xales> !words
#537 [02:46] <xales> yup, broke
#538 [02:46] <bread> Joshua hi
#539 [02:46] <Chr|s> Joshua: Speak!
#540 [02:46] <xales> :|
#541 [02:46] <bread> :o
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#543 [02:47] <xales> Joshua: hello
#544 [02:47] <bread> hi Joshua
#545 [02:47] <xales> !words
#546 [02:48] <xales> :|
#547 [02:48] <bread> lol
#548 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> brb, stargate universe episode completed.
#549 [02:48] <xales> /o\
#550 [02:48] <Chr|s> what did you do
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#552 [02:49] <xales> Joshua: derp?
#553 [02:49] <bread> Joshua: hi
#554 [02:49] <xales> Joshua I thought so
#555 [02:49] <bread> u broke josh
#556 [02:49] <bread> lol
#557 [02:51] <Chr|s> Does not compute.
#558 [02:56] * Joshua [Joshua@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#559 [02:56] <xales> Joshua: Hiya
#560 [02:56] <xales> oh, duh. haha
#561 [02:56] <xales> so stupid
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#563 [02:57] <xales> Joshua: Hi!
#564 [02:58] <Chr|s> Joshua: hello
#565 [02:58] <Joshua> yes joshua
#566 [02:58] <bread> hi Joshua
#567 [02:58] <Joshua> hi bread
#568 [02:58] <bread> :D
#569 [02:58] <xales> \o/
#570 [02:58] <VoxelHead> :)
#571 [02:58] <bread> :D
#572 [02:58] <xales> bread: bots love you :|
#573 [02:58] <bread> they do! :D
#574 [02:58] <Chr|s> again
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#576 [02:59] <xales> good for now!
#577 [02:59] <Chr|s> hi Joshua
#578 [02:59] <bread> hi Joshua
#579 [02:59] <Joshua> hi
#580 [02:59] <Joshua> hi Chr|s
#581 [02:59] <xales> I just had to remove debugging code
#582 [02:59] <bread> \o/
#583 [02:59] <bread> I wish I knew python better D:
#584 [02:59] * aetherian eats bread
#584 [02:59] <bread> :O
#585 [02:59] <bacon> goat of chaos.
#586 [02:59] <VoxelHead> Shucks.
#587 [02:59] <Chr|s> Joshua: Welcome to #MineCraftHelp
#588 [03:00] <xales> actually, I have an idea
#589 [03:00] <Chr|s> lol
#590 [03:00] <Kealper> wow....it seemed...so...not fail right there
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#592 [03:01] <bacon> shucks VoxelHead, I think I know what you are!
#593 [03:01] <bacon> Or at least, similar
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#595 [03:01] <bread> hello Joshua
#596 [03:01] <Joshua> hello
#597 [03:01] <xales> Joshua: hi there
#598 [03:01] <Joshua> if there is one
#599 [03:02] <xales> ok
#600 [03:02] <Chr|s> Welcome back Joshua!
#601 [03:02] <xales> it always responds if you mention it, and never any other times
#602 [03:02] <Joshua> uh oh welcome back joshua !
#603 [03:02] <bread> how'd you do that lol
#604 [03:02] <bacon> Joshua.
#605 [03:02] <Joshua> joshua
#606 [03:02] <bacon> Joshua .
#607 [03:02] <Joshua> hello joshua
#608 [03:02] <bacon> :/
#609 [03:02] <Kealper> hey Joshua, are you a robot?
#610 [03:02] <Joshua> hey Kealper
#611 [03:02] <Chr|s> ohai
#612 [03:03] <Kealper> lord that thing responds fast
#613 [03:03] <xales> let me just check that shutup works
#614 [03:03] <xales> Joshua: doop?
#615 [03:03] <Joshua> hello joshua
#616 [03:03] <xales> shit
#617 [03:03] <bacon> ços it's dumb
#618 [03:03] <Kealper> woh, weird c
#619 [03:03] <Chr|s> Joshua: shutup
#620 [03:03] <Joshua> joshua
#621 [03:04] <bread> !shutup
#622 [03:04] <bread> do it Joshua
#623 [03:04] <bacon> It's just greeting itself >_>
#624 [03:04] * Joshua with itself
#624 [03:04] <bread> loool
#625 [03:04] <Chr|s> lol
#626 [03:04] <Chr|s> muahahaha
#627 [03:04] <Kealper> i don't tink it's dictionary is very large.....
#628 [03:04] <bacon> I didn't mention it xales D:
#629 [03:05] <Chr|s> I am Robot
#630 [03:05] <bacon> IT'S BEING SENTIENT
#631 [03:05] * bacon prepares taser
#631 [03:05] * Chr|s activates skynet
#631 [03:05] <xales> bread, wat
#632 [03:05] <bread> wot
#633 [03:05] <xales> it was responding to "do it Joshua" I think
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#635 [03:06] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go o_O.
#636 [03:06] <xales> Joshua: Ping?
#637 [03:06] * Joshua : ping ?
#637 [03:06] <xales> Joshua: pong?
#638 [03:06] <xales> excellent.
#639 [03:06] <Chr|s> aww would be nice if it would reply pong
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#641 [03:06] <Chr|s> Joshua: Ping?
#642 [03:07] <bread> hi Joshua !
#643 [03:07] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: thats what she said
#644 [03:07] <crazyman> i am unable to get onto a multiplayer free server is this happening to every one?
#645 [03:07] <Chr|s> Ask Joshua he can help
#646 [03:08] <bread> Joshua: can you get onto multiplayer servers?
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#648 [03:08] <xales> crazyman: free server?
#649 [03:09] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: can you get into free multiplayer servers?
#650 [03:09] <crazyman> non beta
#651 [03:09] <xales> crazyman: try another server?
#652 [03:09] <crazyman> i show there are no players and no servers
#653 [03:09] <Chr|s> where?
#654 [03:09] <Bob_Sack> do you use world of minecraft?
#655 [03:10] <crazyman> Play Minecraft Classic (Outdated, but free) on minecraft.net for the multiplayer servers
#656 [03:11] <Bob_Sack> actually im gettin the same problem too
#657 [03:11] <crazyman> this is what it says
#658 [03:11] <crazyman> There are 0 players playing on 0 servers (0 of them private).
#659 [03:11] <xales> it might just be down again
#660 [03:11] <Chr|s> they pushing an update?
#661 [03:11] <xales> yeah
#662 [03:11] <xales> it's just down
#663 [03:11] <xales> nothing you can do
#664 [03:12] <Chr|s> I just logged in fine
#665 [03:12] <crazyman> i under stand just wanted to see if it was me or everyone
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#667 [03:12] <Chr|s> lol
#668 [03:12] <crazyman> thanks for the help
#669 [03:12] <Chr|s> public-craft.com
#670 [03:12] <VoxelHead> Mmm Joshua.
#671 [03:12] <Chr|s> lmao
#672 [03:12] <bread> lol VoxelHead
#673 [03:12] <Bob_Sack> lool
#674 [03:12] <VoxelHead> loooooooooool
#675 [03:13] <Bob_Sack> sometimes i wonder if he is a bot 100% of the time
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#678 [03:13] <xales> Joshua: derplet?
#679 [03:13] <xales> :|
#680 [03:13] <xales> Joshua: derp derp?
#681 [03:13] <bread> hi Joshua
#682 [03:13] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: thats what she said
#683 [03:14] <xales> how did I break it this time :|
#684 [03:14] <Bob_Sack> btw im trying to teach it to be a TWSS bot
#685 [03:14] <bread> D:
#686 [03:14] <xales> oh
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#688 [03:14] <xales> it stores it's settings
#689 [03:14] <xales> whoopsie
#690 [03:14] <xales> Joshue, derplet
#691 [03:14] <xales> Joshua, derplet
#692 [03:14] * Joshua : ping ?
#692 [03:14] <xales> hehe
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#695 [03:15] <bread> hi Joshua ?
#696 [03:15] <Joshua> hi
#697 [03:15] <bread> \o/
#698 [03:15] <Chr|s> hello Joshua ?
#699 [03:16] <Chr|s> doh!
#700 [03:16] <Joshua> hello Chr|s
#701 [03:16] <Chr|s> ohai
#702 [03:16] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: thats what she said
#703 [03:16] <bacon> doh.
#704 [03:16] <xales> you don't need to space it's name out like that
#705 [03:16] <xales> lo
#706 [03:16] <xales> l
#707 [03:16] <Joshua> what was it
#708 [03:16] <bacon> Joshua: That's what she said
#709 [03:16] <Joshua> what ?
#710 [03:16] <Bob_Sack> he reacts the same way people do when i tell those jokes..
#711 [03:17] <xales> ok, now that it's less derp, I'm going to reset it again :|
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#713 [03:17] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: that's what she said
#714 [03:17] <bacon> xales, put : on the censor list?
#715 [03:17] * Joshua : that's an xkcd reference
#715 [03:17] <xales> bacon: I thought I did
#716 [03:17] <bread> ^
#717 [03:17] <xales> ...and I thought I wiped it's brain
#718 [03:17] <bread> I did too
#719 [03:18] <xales> what the fuck
#720 [03:18] <xales> !words
#721 [03:18] <Joshua> I know 531 words (1537 contexts, 2.89 per word), 312 lines.
#722 [03:18] <xales> what
#723 [03:18] <xales> the
#724 [03:18] <xales> fuck
#725 [03:18] <xales> :<
#726 [03:18] <xales> oh derp
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#728 [03:18] <xales> !words
#729 [03:18] <Joshua> I know 0 words (0 contexts, 0.00 per word), 0 lines.
#730 [03:18] <xales> !words
#731 [03:18] <Joshua> I know 4 words (4 contexts, 1.00 per word), 1 lines.
#732 [03:18] <xales> haha
#733 [03:19] <Bob_Sack> you should spam his brain with "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."
#734 [03:19] <xales> hehe
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#736 [03:19] <Chr|s> Joshua: Welcome to #MineCraftHelp
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#738 [03:19] <xales> I fed it the joshua stuff again
#739 [03:19] <Joshua> with i'm sorry, dave
#740 [03:20] <Bob_Sack> ...
#741 [03:20] <AG_Scott> hi Joshua, how are you today?
#742 [03:20] <xales> ohh, he has to think hard about that one :P
#743 [03:20] <Bob_Sack> Open the pod bay doors, Joshua
#744 [03:20] <Joshua> a nice game of chess ? i have a valid message
#745 [03:20] <AG_Scott> Joshua, you are quite bad today
#746 [03:20] <xales> or it just ignored AG_Scott for some reason? O_o
#747 [03:20] <Joshua> hi joshua, how are you today ?
#748 [03:20] * Joshua stuff again
#748 [03:20] <AG_Scott> wtfbod
#749 [03:20] <AG_Scott> bot*
#750 [03:20] <Bob_Sack> he's bein derp again
#751 [03:20] <bread> hi Joshua
#752 [03:20] <bread> :|
#753 [03:20] <xales> pyborg is wonderful
#754 [03:21] <xales> because it's always derp
#755 [03:21] <xales> lolol
#756 [03:21] <xales> OH I KNOW
#757 [03:21] <Joshua> hi joshua, how are you today ?
#758 [03:21] <bread> yes
#759 [03:21] <bread> yes I love it
#760 [03:21] <xales> rofl
#761 [03:21] <Rustayne> Hiya. I'm hosting a private server for a friend and mine, and he is having massive lag issues. Me personally, I have no problems. The server is running on a seperate computer, with 1024 of ram dedicated to minecraft. Any suggestions on what might be wrong?
#762 [03:21] <bread> Joshua: any idea what the problem is?
#763 [03:21] <Joshua> one : p
#764 [03:21] <bread> well there ya go
#765 [03:21] <xales> Rustayne: Is he only having lag on the one server?
#766 [03:21] <bread> Rustayne: is your friend's computer crap?
#767 [03:21] <xales> !unlearn :
#768 [03:21] <Joshua> Unlearn done in 0.00s
#769 [03:22] <xales> =/
#770 [03:22] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: any suggestions on what might be wrong?
#771 [03:22] <Rustayne> his computer is crap, but we had him connect to a public server that runs all the time, and he was fine, no real noticeable lag
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#773 [03:22] <Joshua> running on a seperate computer, with 1024 of ram dedicated to minecraft
#774 [03:23] <Rustayne> yep
#775 [03:23] <Bob_Sack> rofl
#776 [03:23] <Rustayne> i'm running it on a dual core processor as well
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#778 [03:23] <Chr|s> lol
#779 [03:23] <Bob_Sack> it's working
#780 [03:23] <bread> oh man
#781 [03:23] <xales> Rustayne: have him try single-player, does it lag at all there?
#782 [03:23] <Rustayne> no, he doesn't
#783 [03:24] <xales> if he is the only one connected to the server, any lag?
#784 [03:24] <Rustayne> yes
#785 [03:24] <Chr|s> is his computer the public server?
#786 [03:24] <Rustayne> no
#787 [03:24] <Rustayne> we went to one listed on the forums site for servers
#788 [03:24] <Bob_Sack> so you have no prob on his server, but he does, and he has no probs on a public server?
#789 [03:25] <xales> have him press F3 while getting lag
#790 [03:25] <xales> what FPS is it?
#791 [03:25] <Rustayne> we haven't tried him running a server
#792 [03:25] <Rustayne> his fps is around 35-40
#793 [03:25] <xales> oh, wait
#794 [03:25] <Chr|s> try setting fog to low
#795 [03:25] <xales> who is running the server? you are?
#796 [03:25] <Rustayne> it is more in delays
#797 [03:25] <Rustayne> i am, on another computer
#798 [03:25] <Rustayne> i have 2 computers
#799 [03:25] <xales> oh, that sounds like your Internet connection then
#800 [03:25] <Rustayne> one i play minecraft on, one that runs the server
#801 [03:25] <xales> http://speedtest.net/ run test, paste results
#802 [03:26] <Bob_Sack> maybe he needs to do port forwarding?
#803 [03:26] <Rustayne> 20 megs down, 3.3 megs up
#804 [03:26] <Rustayne> tested that to see if that was the issue
#805 [03:26] <Rustayne> and the port is forwarded on my router
#806 [03:26] <Rustayne> i have a linksys if that matters any
#807 [03:26] <xales> Rustayne: do you have anything else that's using the Internet?
#808 [03:27] <Rustayne> nope
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#810 [03:27] <xales> also, are you on Wifi (the computer running the server)
#811 [03:27] <Rustayne> no
#812 [03:27] <Bob_Sack> do you use your external ip to connect to your server, or do you use "localhost"/"127.0.0.1"?
#813 [03:27] <Rustayne> it is hardwired in
#814 [03:27] <Rustayne> i use an external ip as well as him
#815 [03:27] <xales> can you have someone else try connecting, to see if they get lag?
#816 [03:27] <Rustayne> he is in a different location
#817 [03:27] <xales> I'd do it if I could, but my computer is garbage
#818 [03:28] <xales> it could be your friends connection to you, as well, I suppose
#819 [03:28] <Rustayne> i haven't, don't know anyone else that owns it
#820 [03:28] <Bob_Sack> i can connect if u give me the ip
#821 [03:28] <Rustayne> 67.165.33.45:25565
#822 [03:28] <Bob_Sack> i get block lag
#823 [03:28] <Bob_Sack> not chat lag tho
#824 [03:29] <Rustayne> yea, it is block lag mostly
#825 [03:29] <Rustayne> says it takes like 30 seconds for it to process him mining it
#826 [03:31] <xales> that sounds like CPU lag on the server, to me :|
#827 [03:32] <Rustayne> yea, that is why i'm so confused by it, it is an i7
#828 [03:32] <xales> doesn't matter that it's an i7
#829 [03:32] <Bob_Sack> xales it looks like a problem i have on my server
#830 [03:32] <xales> if the clock speed is too slow, then you are screwed
#831 [03:33] <xales> however
#832 [03:33] <Bob_Sack> there's about a 2x2 chunk area that nobody but the op can build in
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#834 [03:33] <xales> is it 64-bit?
#835 [03:33] <Rustayne> 2.93 is too slow?
#836 [03:33] <mib_h8gc18> hello
#837 [03:33] <xales> the OS it's running on
#838 [03:33] <xales> hello mib_h8gc18
#839 [03:33] <mib_h8gc18> what is wrong with classics?
#840 [03:33] <Rustayne> windows 7 64 bit on the current server running now
#841 [03:33] <Bob_Sack> everything is real smooth, but this one 2 chunk by 2 chunk area is no-build
#842 [03:33] <Chr|s> ouch
#843 [03:33] <VoxelHead> Awww
#844 [03:33] * VoxelHead sniggers at chr|s.
#844 [03:33] <Rustayne> i also used a laptop that is a 2.0 dual core duo in a laptop that is vista 32 bit
#845 [03:33] <xales> mib_h8gc18: it's broken. nothing you can do.
#846 [03:33] <mib_h8gc18> :(
#847 [03:33] <xales> Rustayne: make sure you have 64-bit Java enabled
#848 [03:33] * VoxelHead befriends mib_h8gc18
#848 [03:34] <xales> additionally, make sure your friend has moved away from the spawn area... :|
#849 [03:34] <Rustayne> he normally can't before he crashes or falls through the world
#850 [03:34] <Chr|s> Joshua: what do you think?
#851 [03:34] <Rustayne> iv'e seen him get a disconnect.overflow issue as well
#852 [03:34] <Rustayne> if that is any use
#853 [03:34] <Joshua> any suggestions on what might be wrong ?
#854 [03:34] <xales> ah, yes, that's a different story
#855 [03:35] <Bob_Sack> that's what we're asking you, Joshua
#856 [03:35] <Chr|s> Joshua: duh
#857 [03:35] <xales> do you have a firewall running on the server?
#858 [03:35] <xales> particularly ZoneAlarm
#859 [03:35] <Rustayne> no
#860 [03:35] <Joshua> the joshua stuff again
#861 [03:35] <Joshua> we play a game ? wouldn't you prefer
#862 [03:35] <Rustayne> windows firewall is down
#863 [03:35] <Chr|s> Joshua: lets play minecraft
#864 [03:35] <xales> that sounds like a buffer issue, which I have no idea how to fix
#865 [03:35] <xales> you'll have to get Kealper to help with that
#866 [03:35] <bacon> Joshua, stop spamming
#867 [03:35] <Joshua> hi joshua
#868 [03:35] <Joshua> i play minecraft on, one that runs the server, to me : |
#869 [03:35] <xales> but just for fun, try copying the Minecraft_server.exe into a brand-new folder and running it there
#870 [03:35] <Bob_Sack> anyways chris and I don't get lag
#871 [03:36] <Bob_Sack> there's only the spawn protection that we can't build in
#872 [03:36] <Rustayne> tried that one xales, to no avail
#873 [03:36] <Chr|s> I have issues with that too in spawn area on my home server
#874 [03:36] <Rustayne> alright, then it isn't the internet then
#875 [03:36] <Chr|s> I figured it was a bug
#876 [03:36] <Bob_Sack> yeah same
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#878 [03:36] <xales> spawn protection is a feature
#879 [03:36] <xales> opped users can build, not-opped users can't
#880 [03:36] <Bob_Sack> then xales mentioned it and i was like "DOPE"
#881 [03:36] <Chr|s> oh its built in? didn't know that
#882 [03:37] <Bob_Sack> it's stupid, cause i moved my spawn point on my server
#883 [03:37] <Chr|s> Bob_Sack: you fail
#884 [03:37] <Bob_Sack> so it's just a 32x32 area that no one can build in
#885 [03:38] <Rustayne> well thank you bob and chris for helping out, and xales too
#886 [03:38] <Rustayne> i'll do some research on buffer issues with it and see what I turn up
#887 [03:38] <xales> no problem
#888 [03:40] <Chr|s> well im taking a 5 hour nap before work..fun!
#889 [03:40] <Chr|s> later
#890 [03:40] * VoxelHead is away: food
#890 [03:41] <Bob_Sack> seriously, I can never be sure if voxel is a bot or human
#891 [03:41] * Chr|s is away: ZZzzz
#891 [03:42] <bread> VoxelHead is pretty damn convincing :P
#892 [03:43] <AG_Scott> I loved getting 2 AI bots chatting
#893 [03:43] <AG_Scott> its hilarious :>
#894 [03:43] <AG_Scott> almost like omegle spy
#895 [03:43] <bread> oh yes it's great
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#897 [03:43] <bread> I've got a massive log of two bots going at it for like an hour +
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#902 [03:56] <Rustayne> bob, you still around?
#903 [03:57] <Bob_Sack> hm yeah
#904 [03:57] <Rustayne> can you try again on my test server
#905 [03:57] <Bob_Sack> kk
#906 [03:57] <Rustayne> he says it is worst now then it was before
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#908 [04:00] <Bob_Sack> i think he just needs a better computer
#909 [04:00] <Bob_Sack> or turn up his fog to full
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#912 [04:01] <Rustayne> well the thing is it isn't graphical lag
#913 [04:01] <Rustayne> according to him, it is as if we are playing over dialup
#914 [04:01] <Rustayne> sadly, i can't find anything on the internet to suggest this, and when he tried another server, he was ok he says
#915 [04:03] <Bob_Sack> weird
#916 [04:03] <Rustayne> i had him go to server.minecraftaddicts.com
#917 [04:03] <Bob_Sack> cause i get great speed on your server
#918 [04:03] <Rustayne> took him a min to load in
#919 [04:03] <Rustayne> but he said he didn't have any notable lag issues like on mine
#920 [04:04] <Bob_Sack> i have no clue
#921 [04:04] <Rustayne> yea, neither do i sadly
#922 [04:04] <Rustayne> was at least worth asking
#923 [04:04] <Bob_Sack> too bad xales isn't still awake
#924 [04:04] <Rustayne> and luckily i got your help to test it
#925 [04:04] <Rustayne> so i know it isn't the server's fault
#926 [04:04] <Bob_Sack> yeah
#927 [04:05] <Bob_Sack> it has to be something wrong with your friend's computer
#928 [04:05] <Rustayne> well trust me, his computer is a pick of junk as it is
#929 [04:05] <Rustayne> piece*
#930 [04:05] <Bob_Sack> haha
#931 [04:05] <Rustayne> but he runs sp just fine
#932 [04:05] <Rustayne> oddly enough
#933 [04:06] <Rustayne> first game in a long while he can play that is somewhat modern hehe
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#935 [04:06] <Rustayne> aside from the fact that minecraft doesn't look modern
#936 [04:06] <Rustayne> hehe
#937 [04:06] <Bob_Sack> lol yeah
#938 [04:07] <Bob_Sack> it really shouldn't require all the resources it does
#939 [04:07] <Bob_Sack> but it's coded in java.. so u can't expect great speed
#940 [04:07] <Rustayne> yea, but i think it runs nice
#941 [04:07] <Rustayne> and i upgraded the texture pack a little with mixcraft, and it looks wonderful to me
#942 [04:07] <Rustayne> best 21 bucks i've spent in awhile
#943 [04:08] <Bob_Sack> it does run great on my computer, but it really should run better on lower end PCs too
#944 [04:08] <Bob_Sack> and yeah i been playin MC since november last year
#945 [04:09] <Rustayne> ahh, cool
#946 [04:09] <Rustayne> i just started playing last week
#947 [04:09] <Bob_Sack> great investment
#948 [04:09] <Rustayne> yea, definitely
#949 [04:09] <Rustayne> the freedom to just do what you want is something i've been looking for
#950 [04:09] <Rustayne> for quite a while actually
#951 [04:10] <Bob_Sack> mhm
#952 [04:14] <Rustayne> Well thanks again bob. You have been a great help.
#953 [04:14] <Rustayne> I'm heading off now.
#954 [04:14] <Bob_Sack> no prob
#955 [04:14] <Bob_Sack> cya
#956 [04:14] <Rustayne> cya
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#961 [04:27] <escherial> please help
#962 [04:29] <MajorIIIPain> hey guys :) i have a problem with minecraft and ubuntu 10.10... the fglrx driver from ati :/ if i uninstall the fglrx driver, minecraft loads perfectly and i can play it but i need a driver! what can i do? the open sourced driver i tested didnt run so good.... someone a idea? :)
#963 [04:30] <lemon-rev> ok you got mc to run perfectly so what driver you need ?
#964 [04:32] <MajorIIIPain> yes or what settings must i chance to run it with the fglrx driver? because the game starts.... it only breaks if the maps load
#965 [04:32] <bread> have you tried the driver from ATI's site?
#966 [04:33] <MajorIIIPain> yes
#967 [04:33] <MajorIIIPain> same problem
#968 [04:33] <bread> well, damn
#969 [04:33] <MajorIIIPain> the official driver is the fglrx driver
#970 [04:33] <MajorIIIPain> from the ati site
#971 [04:33] <bread> oh right
#972 [04:33] * bread doens't have an ATI card :P
#972 [04:34] <bread> doesn't*
#973 [04:34] <MajorIIIPain> :D
#974 [04:34] <MajorIIIPain> to late :P
#975 [04:34] <MajorIIIPain> mhhh no idea?
#976 [04:35] <MajorIIIPain> or should i try another open source driver?
#977 [04:35] <bread> what happens when you uninstall the fglrc driver?
#978 [04:35] <MajorIIIPain> it starts and i can play
#979 [04:35] <MajorIIIPain> but it lags and doesnt run good without the driver
#980 [04:36] <bread> well I think when you uninstall it, it defaults to the FOSS one
#981 [04:36] <MajorIIIPain> but it must be the driver because with windows 7 on the same laptop it runs good
#982 [04:36] <MajorIIIPain> could be?! im not a linux pro :D :P
#983 [04:37] <bread> I don't use Ubuntu anymore, so I'm probably not much help :P
#984 [04:38] <MajorIIIPain> mhhh ok no prob i will test some stuff later and join the irc later again ;)
#985 [04:38] <MajorIIIPain> bye byyeee and thx so far ;)
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#987 [04:38] <bread> sorry for my uselessness lol
#988 [04:39] <MajorIIIPain> :D np
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#990 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, there's actually a large number of people running the ati/fglrx drivers thathave a problem with minecraf
#991 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> No solution right now for them
#992 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> "small" report available here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/ubuntu_sun_java_ati_hd5850_fglrx_drivers_crash
#993 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> disregard the URL, it actually affects a wide rande of ATI cards
#994 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> range*
#995 [04:42] <bread> well I didn't know that lol :O
#996 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> Well, now you know™
#997 [04:45] <bread> \o/
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#1000 [04:50] <Phoenix76653> Hai :D
#1001 [04:50] <Phoenix76653> Anyone else getting trouble with the classic servers?
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#1003 [04:53] <Phoenix76653> !isdown
#1004 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Looks like the list is down
#1005 [05:01] <Phoenix76653> yeah, thats wat I was wondering
#1006 [05:01] <Phoenix76653> Damn =P
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#1008 [05:05] <Russerov> hey guys
#1009 [05:05] <Russerov> i got a prob, my browser can't load the minecraft.net page
#1010 [05:05] <Russerov> it says: The page isn't redirecting properly
#1011 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1012 [05:05] <Russerov> while it works perfectly on my lp
#1013 [05:06] <rawkjawk> the sites been doing that off and on all day
#1014 [05:06] <rawkjawk> let me try it
#1015 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> It's up for me.
#1016 [05:06] <Russerov> its only on pc that it happens..
#1017 [05:06] <rawkjawk> up for me too
#1018 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Has it always been that way on that pc?
#1019 [05:06] <Russerov> maybe my ip is banned for some reason?
#1020 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Then neither computer would be able to connect
#1021 [05:07] <Russerov> for a while yeh
#1022 [05:07] <rawkjawk> is your firewall blocking it?
#1023 [05:07] <Russerov> hmm.. i can view the site on a proxy
#1024 [05:07] <rawkjawk> or perhaps you have some major viruses/spyware
#1025 [05:07] <Russerov> on my lp, but not on my pc
#1026 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
#1027 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> What operating system is it running?
#1028 [05:07] <rawkjawk> which browser program are you using?
#1029 [05:08] <Russerov> my pc is clean and is using avg free antivirus
#1030 [05:08] <Russerov> firefox latest version of 3
#1031 [05:08] <rawkjawk> pshh get rid of that avg shit and get avira
#1032 [05:08] <rawkjawk> hmmm
#1033 [05:08] <rawkjawk> have you tried deleting cookies?
#1034 [05:08] <Russerov> i like avg and it works fine :P it can't be the reason that i can view it
#1035 [05:08] <rawkjawk> and clearing out your cache?
#1036 [05:08] <Phoenix76653> yep, fuck avg. use avast =P
#1037 [05:08] <Russerov> lets see if cache works
#1038 [05:09] <rawkjawk> lol i agree with phoenix
#1039 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Both avg and avast are known to cause so many false positives
#1040 [05:09] <rawkjawk> the one that i really liked using was kaspersky
#1041 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Case in point, the last lwjgl fiasco
#1042 [05:09] <rawkjawk> kasperky=god
#1043 [05:10] <Russerov> clearing cache didn't work either\
#1044 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Russerov, What operating system?
#1045 [05:11] <Phoenix76653> @GreyVulpine, I haven't had any yet :3
#1046 [05:11] <AG_Scott> Kaspersky is rather bad at false positives too.
#1047 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Russerov?
#1048 [05:11] <rawkjawk> all virus protection does if you think about it
#1049 [05:11] <AG_Scott> However, it was likely because I went nuts with the settings.
#1050 [05:11] <Russerov> win 7 ultimate 64bit
#1051 [05:12] <rawkjawk> but i like the fact that kaspersky scans EVERYTHING
#1052 [05:12] <rawkjawk> whereas avg doesnt hardly scan shit
#1053 [05:12] <AG_Scott> KIS is really cheap too
#1054 [05:12] <Phoenix76653> ^^ True :D
#1055 [05:12] <AG_Scott> I got licenses on amazon for like $20 for a year for 3 computers
#1056 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Could you do me a favor, press your windows+R key, go to: %windir%\system32\drivers\etc\
#1057 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Open up the "hosts" file in notepad, and pastebin.com it
#1058 [05:12] <Phoenix76653> Hosts file?
#1059 [05:12] <Phoenix76653> oh lol
#1060 [05:12] * GreyVulpine nods
#1060 [05:12] <AG_Scott> but now i don't use any anti virus.
#1061 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#1062 [05:13] * GreyVulpine uses NOD32, has been for years
#1062 [05:13] <AG_Scott> i just don't need any.
#1063 [05:13] <AG_Scott> <3 *nix
#1064 [05:13] <Phoenix76653> I don't see how anything would have been added to there without his express permission.=P
#1065 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Less memory intensive than kaspersky, but scans just as well.
#1066 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Phoenix76653, you'd be surprised
#1067 [05:13] <AG_Scott> i think kaspersky has antivirus for mac now too
#1068 [05:13] <Phoenix76653> Then again, he may be using spybot
#1069 [05:14] <Russerov> hey grey sorry g2g to school now, ill return later. thx for ur time
#1070 [05:14] <Phoenix76653> cya
#1071 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Okay then.
#1072 [05:15] <Phoenix76653> Sorry for the complete noob question, but wouldn't it just redirect if it were in the host file?
#1073 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Reason why I wanted Russerov to check hosts.. many pirated versions of minecraft modify it
#1074 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/0UdnuNUP
#1075 [05:16] <AG_Scott> it can Phoenix76653
#1076 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/0UdnuNUP
#1077 [05:16] <Phoenix76653> oh :3
#1078 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> er
#1079 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/qCQfTdqn
#1080 [05:16] <AG_Scott> but you can also make it point to other IPs
#1081 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> Two examples there.
#1082 [05:16] <Phoenix76653> Wow... damn :O
#1083 [05:16] <AG_Scott> You know it's rather sad how companies think checking in even works.
#1084 [05:16] <Phoenix76653> lma
#1085 [05:16] <Phoenix76653> o
#1086 [05:17] * GreyVulpine nods
#1086 [05:17] <AG_Scott> i don't even see the point of anti piracy crap, it just annoys the real customers and the pirates get around it
#1087 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Gotta make it so it takes a little bit of effort at least.
#1088 [05:18] <Phoenix76653> I used to have a pirated copy of minecraft, (didn't have a credit card) But I never had any trouble with it =P
#1089 [05:18] <Phoenix76653> But anyways, lmao lets keep ontopic
#1090 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> Meh, as long as people don't come by here, asking for help while using a pirated copy of MC...
#1091 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> Or asking how to pirate MC.. I don't care
#1092 [05:18] <Phoenix76653> yeah
#1093 [05:18] <Phoenix76653> lol, its not hard, believe me :O
#1094 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> I know.
#1095 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo...
#1096 [05:20] * GreyVulpine goes back to space empires IV
#1096 [05:20] <Phoenix76653> lol
#1097 [05:20] <Phoenix76653> I actually completely forgot what I was doing before signing on here :3
#1098 [05:20] <Phoenix76653> oh yeah
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#1105 [06:21] <brakkvatn> Have any of you guys used Minecraft-Overviewer?
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#1110 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> "We're launching the official Minecraft merch store tomorrow! Hint for those who purchased the game: check your profile page for sneak peek + discounts"
#1111 [06:40] <bread> :O
#1112 [06:41] <lemon-rev> grey dude all i see is under profile gift codes, change skin, change password, gift codes again and buy more codes ???
#1113 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Probably not out yet
#1114 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> But that's the message just posted on facebook
#1115 [06:42] <lemon-rev> fair enough,
#1116 [06:42] <DeeWoo> " Get a $5/£5/EUR5 discount on never before seen Minecraft swag! "
#1117 [06:42] <fogWraith> What is this?
#1118 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft merch rolling out.
#1119 [06:43] <fogWraith> O_o
#1120 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Posted on Minecraft's FB site
#1121 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> s/site/page
#1122 [06:43] <DeeWoo> http://www.jinx.com/minecraft
#1123 [06:43] * fogWraith goes to minecraft
#1123 [06:44] <fogWraith> :|
#1124 [06:44] <fogWraith> Swag
#1125 [06:45] <fogWraith> Ohoho, I'm getting two of these
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#1127 [06:50] <kotnascher> why are all the free2play server off?
#1128 [06:51] <kotnascher> hello?!
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#1132 [06:58] <rawkjawk> hey anyone in here good with mods?
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#1137 [07:04] <Nidis> Ok I'll try here instead >_>
#1138 [07:04] <Nidis> ahem.
#1139 [07:04] <Nidis> I'm doing an assignment based on Minecraft
#1140 [07:05] <Nidis> and I'm running a beta server for me and one other participant
#1141 [07:05] <Nidis> but I need to set up the map, hopefully with some sort of inventory editor
#1142 [07:05] <Nidis> is there anything like that for beta servers?
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#1144 [07:06] <Methrend> hey guys..could do with some help
#1145 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> Nidis, the beta server already has the /give command integrated into it, as long as you or your friend has 'ops' status in it
#1146 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> Methrend, with?
#1147 [07:09] <Methrend> huge amount of lag trying to play on a friends server
#1148 [07:09] <Methrend> it's varying quite a lot, but nothing we've tried has helped to fix it
#1149 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> What else is running on that server?
#1150 [07:10] <Methrend> absoutely nothing
#1151 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> Does it have enough RAM? What are its stats?
#1152 [07:10] <Methrend> it's just the minecraft server, and the two of us playing. His client runs fine, no issues.
#1153 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> Is he running the client on the same machine?
#1154 [07:11] <Methrend> nope, a different one
#1155 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> Okay, internet connectivity?
#1156 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> How is the server hooked up network wise? What's his ISP?
#1157 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> How fast is his connection?
#1158 [07:11] <Methrend> he's using a mac for his client, if that changes anything
#1159 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't change anything
#1160 [07:12] <Methrend> and server is running on one of his spare machines, standard ADSL2+ connection, i think, but his upload should be able ot handle the two of us
#1161 [07:12] <GreyVulpine> You think? What's his upload like?
#1162 [07:13] <Methrend> 1mb/s upload speed
#1163 [07:13] <Methrend> (megabyte, not megabit)
#1164 [07:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that should be plenty then.
#1165 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, upload-wise, requires roughly 100K/sec per player.
#1166 [07:14] <Methrend> it's giving me delays o anything between 30seconds -> 3 minutes
#1167 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> Sounds familiar then, have you tried decreasing draw distance (fog), turning down detail, turning off smooth lighting?
#1168 [07:14] <Methrend> yeah, tried all that. It seemed to keep the delay at the lower end, but sitll above 20seconds
#1169 [07:15] <Methrend> also tried it on my laptop (better specs than this machine, with alls ettings down, same issue)
#1170 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> Are either you or him running any software firewalls or security software that has a network security aspect?
#1171 [07:17] <Methrend> im running none, will ask him
#1172 [07:18] <Methrend> apparently just his router, which he's set up for allowing it all
#1173 [07:19] <Nidis> Sorry, colour me a total n00b, but is there a place I kind find how to use the /give command?
#1174 [07:19] <Nidis> The minecraft wiki doesn't say much about it :|
#1175 [07:20] <Nidis> I mean
#1176 [07:21] <Nidis> is there a way to give a quantity of something?
#1177 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> Nidis, yes, the syntax is /give playername item id number
#1178 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> Item ids can be found on the wiki
#1179 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#1180 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> Use the "Dec" value
#1181 [07:21] <Nidis> I won't need hex value at all?
#1182 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1183 [07:22] <Nidis> Excellent, thank you very very much :D
#1184 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Use 'help' in the server's console to find out all the commands
#1185 [07:23] <Nidis> Double excellent, thanks!
#1186 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Methrend, how's your connection?
#1187 [07:25] <Methrend> my own one?
#1188 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1189 [07:25] <Methrend> 1.5mbit ADSL
#1190 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> Well, if there's nothing between you and your friend that's slowing you down, it does sound like the 1.3 patch bug that many people have experienced. Extreme lag in chat/placing destroying blocks, and just delay in loading chunks.
#1191 [07:27] <Methrend> ah
#1192 [07:27] <Methrend> no fix for it?
#1193 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> 1.3 introduced a new chunk/save file format, as well as a new rendering engine. Unfortunately, there's no fix for it right now
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#1195 [07:27] <Nidis> And i'm back - -;
#1196 [07:27] <Nidis> ok.
#1197 [07:28] <Nidis> is there any way to set the spawn?
#1198 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> WIth a map editor, or a modded server, yes
#1199 [07:28] <Nidis> It doesn't seem to be possible, according to the commands list on the wiki.
#1200 [07:28] <Methrend> hmm..ok. thanks for your help =)
#1201 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> I can recommend "MCedit" for a map editor
#1202 [07:28] <Nidis> Oh ok?
#1203 [07:28] <Nidis> I might give that a go
#1204 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Methrend, hopefully the next release will fix this
#1205 [07:28] <Methrend> hope so =(
#1206 [07:29] <Nidis> I'm not much of a codey/Linuxy/Java person, is it simple to use?
#1207 [07:29] <Methrend> wolves + multiplay could get fun, if it works properly =P
#1208 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> Nidis, are you on a linux system?
#1209 [07:29] <Nidis> I'm on windows 7 :\
#1210 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> Oh, then it should run just fine
#1211 [07:30] <Nidis> oh, sweet.
#1212 [07:30] <Nidis> thanks!
#1213 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> MCedit here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#1214 [07:30] <Nidis> Yeah I just found it :D
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#1216 [07:33] <Nidis> wait is this for survival mode only?
#1217 [07:33] <Nidis> or does it work with SMP servers?
#1218 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1219 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> MCEdit works with beta/SMP/survival maps, yes
#1220 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> I recommend closing the server before you edit the map though.
#1221 [07:34] <Nidis> XD
#1222 [07:34] <Nidis> found that out the hard way...
#1223 [07:34] <Nidis> thanks
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#1228 [08:11] <Donkey> Hello
#1229 [08:11] <Donkey> can anybody help me with a problem I have?
#1230 [08:11] <Donkey> I downloaded the MineCraft beta client(.exe) but It won't start up, it says "Could not create the Java virtual machine"
#1231 [08:11] <Donkey> Already re-installed Java
#1232 [08:12] <Donkey> Anybody?
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#1236 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> Donkey - Did you update java, or completely uninstall and reinstall it?
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#1238 [08:25] <higanimitsu> ... can someone help me?
#1239 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1240 [08:25] <higanimitsu> the multiplayer classic server list is gone
#1241 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's currently down.
#1242 [08:25] <higanimitsu> ah... ok then
#1243 [08:25] <higanimitsu> thank you.
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#1246 [08:42] <Donkey> It's already solved
#1247 [08:42] <Donkey> using a .bat file or something
#1248 [08:42] <Donkey> bye :)
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#1252 [09:17] <Chr|s> morning
#1253 [09:18] <Executi0n> hello
#1254 [09:18] <Executi0n> In my location it's kinda not morning, but okay :) good morning.
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#1257 [09:19] <jms1989> um, anybody care to explain why I can't login on minecraft.net? I just get a 404 page or something.
#1258 [09:19] <Executi0n> The site is down
#1259 [09:19] <jms1989> still?
#1260 [09:19] <Executi0n> Yes
#1261 [09:20] <jms1989> cause I can get to the web pages but its main functions are broken.
#1262 [09:20] <Executi0n> The site seems to work fine now, but it has a delay for a short time.
#1263 [09:21] <jms1989> why did it go down in the first place?
#1264 [09:22] <Executi0n> It says "Woah, something seems to have gone wrong. We'll have a tinker with it momentarily, please check back again later."
#1265 [09:22] <Executi0n> and then there is a picture of someone that digged some stone below
#1266 [09:23] <jms1989> yeah... the database seems down :/
#1267 [09:23] <jms1989> they should fix that
#1268 [09:23] <Chr|s> could be anything
#1269 [09:23] <jms1989> so it don't break
#1270 [09:23] <Executi0n> Dunno what is going on, I'm just a player such as you and others :P
#1271 [09:23] <Chr|s> more so heavy loads of people visiting accessing, logging into the site
#1272 [09:24] <jms1989> if you load http://minecraft.com/servers.asp you'll see a empty list.
#1273 [09:24] <Executi0n> Here:
#1274 [09:24] <Executi0n> <higanimitsu> the multiplayer classic server list is gone
#1275 [09:24] <Executi0n> <@GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's currently down.
#1276 [09:24] <Executi0n> <higanimitsu> ah... ok then
#1277 [09:25] <jms1989> lol
#1278 [09:25] <jms1989> :/
#1279 [09:25] <jms1989> that on the main channel?
#1280 [09:25] <Executi0n> here
#1281 [09:26] <jms1989> oh
#1282 [09:26] <Chr|s> minecraft.com is down your right
#1283 [09:27] <Chr|s> minecraft.net is the address
#1284 [09:27] <jms1989> well of course, I checked before logging into the irc.
#1285 [09:27] <jms1989> .com, .net
#1286 [09:27] <Executi0n> Yeah, we know minecraft.net is the address :\ it's an unforgotable thing
#1287 [09:28] <Executi0n> How can you play minecraft and don't know what is the correct address :O
#1288 [09:28] <jms1989> it gets confused when you manually type an address :P
#1289 [09:29] <jms1989> I typed it and wasn't thinking ;P
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#1291 [09:29] <jms1989> kinda assumed there be a redirect on the .com...
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#1293 [09:30] <Executi0n> There's no any redirect
#1294 [09:30] <jms1989> there should be :P
#1295 [09:30] <Executi0n> And minecraft.com is bought by someone, which is not Notch :X
#1296 [09:30] <jms1989> aww
#1297 [09:31] <Executi0n> http://www.checkdomain.com/cgi-bin/checkdomain.pl?domain=www.minecraft.com
#1298 [09:32] * jms1989 don't get it when ppl buy a domain then no use it.
#1298 [09:32] <jms1989> s/no/don't
#1299 [09:32] <Executi0n> ha :)
#1300 [09:32] <Executi0n> If I had this domain I would open a minecraft community
#1301 [09:34] <jms1989> brb
#1302 [09:34] <Executi0n> And minecraft.com can get a big amount of visitors, people sometime get confused and go to .com instead of .net, one man that enters your website is enough, he can show the website to his friends, and then the friends of his friends give it to their friends... and it keeps up like that.
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#1307 [09:46] <mib_0rduqy> is minecraft down?
#1308 [09:46] <Executi0n> yes
#1309 [09:46] <mib_0rduqy> alright thanks :)
#1310 [09:47] <mib_0rduqy> any idea how long for?
#1311 [09:48] <Executi0n> I think about 45 - one hour
#1312 [09:50] <mib_0rduqy> cool thank you
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#1318 [10:01] <jms1989> its been out since yesterday man :(
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#1322 [10:10] <lasse> is minecraft down
#1323 [10:11] <lasse> ???
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#1328 [10:16] <jms1989> lasse, yup
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#1333 [10:36] <Glothek> anyone awake?
#1334 [10:38] <jms1989> I is
#1335 [10:38] <Glothek> know anything about redstone? :-)
#1336 [10:38] <Sleaker> I'm here too!
#1337 [10:38] <jms1989> eh, somewhat ya.
#1338 [10:39] <Sleaker> I'm pretty knew though.
#1339 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty good at redstone, what do you need?
#1340 [10:39] <jms1989> handy for remote tnt detenations :P
#1341 [10:39] <Glothek> I need to shorten a signal
#1342 [10:39] <Glothek> to one tick
#1343 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> That.. really depends on how far that signal has to go
#1344 [10:40] <Glothek> um... far
#1345 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> You can't shorten it if it's going further than 15 blocks
#1346 [10:40] <Glothek> oh, that's not a problem
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#1348 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1349 [10:41] <Glothek> it can be as delayed as it needs to be, I can use repeaters to send it along
#1350 [10:41] <Glothek> but I want it so it only lights up one repeater at a time
#1351 [10:41] <Glothek> I'm not really explaining this well...
#1352 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Got a server I could hop onto and see?
#1353 [10:42] <Glothek> no... :-/
#1354 [10:42] <Glothek> I know nothing about mc servers
#1355 [10:43] <Sleaker> ok so I'm setting up a server atm, what's a good tool/utility to generate some good terrain?
#1356 [10:43] <Glothek> ok, here's what I have... a switch and a button that run through an and gate
#1357 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Sleaker, Just use minecraft itself
#1358 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> It only generates terrain once a player reaches unexplored areas of the map
#1359 [10:44] <Glothek> even when I shorten the pulse from the button, the and gate still puts out a signal that's longer than one tick
#1360 [10:44] <Sleaker> right, but I've seen mods stuffs that alter the terrain gen
#1361 [10:44] <Sleaker> they worth using?
#1362 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't tell you, sorry, haven't used them myself
#1363 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, then, Glothek, why not use something like an edge triggered flip-flop?/
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#1365 [10:46] <Sleaker> so does the minecraft map expand limitlessly in Noth, south, east, west directions? or does it stop at a specific point?
#1366 [10:47] <Glothek> that's an option, but I have a lot of wires I have to do this for... like 600
#1367 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Sleaker, It's basically infinite... max size is about 8 times the surface area of the Earth.
#1368 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Limitations of memory and addressing and all.
#1369 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez.
#1370 [10:49] <Sleaker> haha, is there anyway to force the world to wrap, like it's a circle? or is that not coded
#1371 [10:49] <Sleaker> *sphere rather
#1372 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> That's not coded, it's basically a flat plain
#1373 [10:49] <Sleaker> figured
#1374 [10:49] <Sleaker> probably going to play with: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=136843
#1375 [10:49] <Glothek> ugh, I think I found my problem
#1376 [10:49] <Glothek> and its not pretty
#1377 [10:51] <Glothek> I'm making a machine that plays music, and when I have two successive notes that are the same, it doesn't play both of them, the signal just stays on... I thought it was signal length, but its actually the delay between the notes that's the problem
#1378 [10:52] <Glothek> the problem is the wires are a block apart from each other and to put in another repeater, I'd basically have to rebuild the whole machine, I just made the circuit too dense
#1379 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Oh, ew, yeah
#1380 [10:57] <Glothek> http://i.imgur.com/EpBFU.png http://i.imgur.com/E2wLO.png some pictures
#1381 [10:58] <Sleaker> wow
#1382 [10:59] <Glothek> it doesn't even have the key or tempo selectors put on it yet
#1383 [11:01] <Glothek> hey GreyVulpine, what do you think... if i put in a latch on each wire that tests the signal, and sends out pulses as long as the line is powered... I could put it on the back end so I'd only have to build 14 (well, one then MCEdit it to 14...)
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#1390 [11:20] <philipekul> is the multiplayer classic gone??
#1391 [11:21] <Sleaker> isn't 'classic' mode just turning off spawns and day/night?
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#1393 [11:28] <Kealper> no
#1394 [11:28] <Kealper> classic is far more simple in pretty much every way compared to beta
#1395 [11:28] <Executi0n> e
#1396 [11:28] <Executi0n> oops sorry, wrong.
#1397 [11:28] <Kealper> lol
#1398 [11:28] <Executi0n> :P
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#1402 [11:36] <andries> yo
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#1404 [11:38] <aetherian> hel-
#1405 [11:38] <Executi0n> hey
#1406 [11:41] <aetherian> hello, exec
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#1408 [11:43] <Woliwonker> Hello?
#1409 [11:43] <Executi0n> Hi
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#1411 [11:43] <Woliwonker> I've got a Problem with Minecraft
#1412 [11:43] <Executi0n> Go ahead, I will try to help you.
#1413 [11:44] <Woliwonker> A friend gave me a gift code and i registered it, but now 3 Months or something later minecraft.net says that I havent bought the game
#1414 [11:44] <aetherian> did it say you had it before?
#1415 [11:44] <Woliwonker> Yesterday it worked
#1416 [11:44] <Woliwonker> ?
#1417 [11:44] <Woliwonker> I have got minecraft since december
#1418 [11:44] <Executi0n> Minecraft website is currently not okay.. uhmm how should I say that...
#1419 [11:45] <Executi0n> It has crashes, it crashed before about 2 hours ago
#1420 [11:45] <Executi0n> and the database crash down also, so just wait.
#1421 [11:45] <Woliwonker> I hope I don't have to enter my code again because I deleted the file were I saved it
#1422 [11:46] <Executi0n> Listen, go to minecraft website and check the classic server list
#1423 [11:46] <Executi0n> If you don't see nothing - the database is down
#1424 [11:47] <Woliwonker> Okey I don't see any server
#1425 [11:47] <Executi0n> So the database is down :)
#1426 [11:47] <Executi0n> You still own the game, no worries.
#1427 [11:47] <Woliwonker> Well so I will wait until I can login again thank you very much
#1428 [11:47] <Executi0n> No problem :D
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#1438 [12:15] <aetherian> peru: peru_: you need internet fixing
#1439 [12:17] <Executi0n> yeah lol
#1440 [12:20] * xales pokes dopeghoti
#1440 [12:20] * GreyVulpine stabs xales
#1440 [12:20] <xales> ?
#1441 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> [10:04] <+bildramer> M is really annoying
#1442 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> [10:06] <+bildramer> I vote M adds op bans to list but doesn't autokick at ban
#1443 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> [10:06] <+bildramer> or it gets query-based commands
#1444 [12:21] <xales> it...does add op bans to the list
#1445 [12:21] <xales> or it's supposed to :|
#1446 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Haven't used M, don't know
#1447 [12:22] <xales> yeah
#1448 [12:22] <xales> 12:21:46 <M> * [138] a!test@ban.derp (xales!xales@xales.info) (active 00:09)
#1449 [12:23] <xales> it will un-set op bans after two hours because it wants to keep the banlist as clean as possible, but it will re-set the ban if someone matching it joins again
#1450 [12:24] <xales> or...it is supposed to :|
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#1455 [12:28] <peru__> aetherian, unfortunately i dont know if it is my wireless router or my isp
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#1459 [12:35] <Mathuin> Anyone have a link to codewarrior's pymclevel forum thread? Search is still down so I can't find it that way. :-(
#1460 [12:35] <xales> Google search
#1461 [12:35] <Mathuin> oh that's right, the forums are indexed.
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#1464 [12:45] <Sleaker> ok so WorldGuard wont load on my server, are there any other ways to lock areas besides that, which support permissions?
#1465 [12:46] <xales> not to my knowledge
#1466 [12:46] <xales> but I wouldn't kno
#1467 [12:46] <xales> w
#1468 [12:46] <Sleaker> Residences will, but it doesn't let you configure based on user groups.
#1469 [12:46] <Sleaker> mm
#1470 [12:46] <Sleaker> anywhere I might be able to get troubleshooting help with Worldguard then?
#1471 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> #bukkit?
#1472 [12:47] <Sleaker> thx
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#1474 [12:57] <mib_ohyc5q> salut
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#1476 [12:57] <mib_ohyc5q> dites l'acces a #minecraft est interdit ?
#1477 [12:57] <mib_ohyc5q> jy suis rentre et je me suis fais bannir sans savoir pkoi
#1478 [12:58] <Mathuin> I do not speak French. I'm inferring that you are banned from #minecraft for some reason. I don't know why.
#1479 [12:59] <aetherian> did they ban *!*@mibbit.com (or whatever the syntax is)?
#1480 [12:59] <Mathuin> That would be amazingly shortsighted of them.
#1481 [12:59] <mib_ohyc5q> ok
#1482 [12:59] <Glothek> I'm on mibbit
#1483 [12:59] <mib_ohyc5q> I do download a client for irc for change m'y hot mask ?
#1484 [13:00] <Glothek> and in #minecraft
#1485 [13:00] <mib_ohyc5q> and after is good ?
#1486 [13:00] <Glothek> is your name registered on the irc server?
#1487 [13:00] <mib_ohyc5q> no
#1488 [13:00] <Glothek> that's why
#1489 [13:00] <mib_ohyc5q> he dont register
#1490 [13:00] <mib_ohyc5q> ok
#1491 [13:00] <mib_ohyc5q> I will register
#1492 [13:00] <Mathuin> Good to know for the future.
#1493 [13:00] <Glothek> that channel boots you if you don't register, I think
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#1499 [13:10] <KristofferAG> Hello
#1500 [13:11] <KristofferAG> Was just wondering if anyone could give me and a friend a hand. He's trying to set up a server so me and him can play, but we've run into some problems
#1501 [13:11] <KristofferAG> We got the port forwarded, the ip set up, i'm whitelisted and op'd.
#1502 [13:12] <KristofferAG> The server window even says that I'm logged in for a while before it says I'm disconnected. Thing is, I never get past the "Logging in..." screen when trying to connect
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#1504 [13:17] <Julefar^> Hi! I got a "funny" problem - my minecraft client says i don't have a world - it happend after i rebooted my computer - what can i do ?
#1505 [13:18] <sic> do you have a world?
#1506 [13:18] <Julefar^> sic - Yes!
#1507 [13:18] <Mathuin> You could download and run mce.py on the world in an attempt to fix it.
#1508 [13:18] <sic> no I mean literally is there a worldfile?
#1509 [13:18] <sic> %APPDATA%/.minecraft/saves
#1510 [13:18] <sic> is there a world there?
#1511 [13:18] <aetherian> yes?
#1512 [13:19] <Julefar^> No
#1513 [13:19] <sic> then no, you do not have a world
#1514 [13:19] <Julefar^> But i got a folder with my world
#1515 [13:19] <sic> where is this folder?
#1516 [13:19] <Julefar^> %APPDATA%/.minecraft/saves
#1517 [13:20] <sic> wait ok so there IS a world there
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#1519 [13:21] <Julefar^> imn waiting
#1520 [13:22] <Morrolan> Is there a file called level.dat in the world folder?
#1521 [13:22] <Julefar^> \AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\saves\World of me
#1522 [13:22] <Executi0n> yep
#1523 [13:22] <Julefar^> There
#1524 [13:24] <Morrolan> So there is a world.dat in there and yet it does not show ingame. :/
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#1526 [13:24] <Morrolan> I can only advise you to download MCEdit, open the world in it and save it again.
#1527 [13:26] <Julefar^> I try that Morrolan ! Thanks!
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#1530 [13:27] <sprocket> hey can every one tell me why i don´t come in minecraft
#1531 [13:28] <Mathuin> ... there's so much potential for banning in responses.
#1532 [13:28] <sprocket> ah ok
#1533 [13:29] <Mathuin> Seriously, though, reword your question so we understand what you really want to know.
#1534 [13:30] <sprocket> ok
#1535 [13:30] <sprocket> the game don´t start
#1536 [13:30] <sprocket> i don´t now why
#1537 [13:30] <sprocket> so i ask
#1538 [13:31] <sprocket> when i start the game minecraft say that i must buy the game but i also buy the game
#1539 [13:32] <sprocket> at saturday or so
#1540 [13:32] <Mathuin> There's a haspaid link, I don't know it, that can tell you if the servers consider you to have paid for the game.
#1541 [13:33] <sprocket> yes i paid for the game
#1542 [13:33] <Executi0n> minecraft database is down, don't worry.
#1543 [13:33] <Executi0n> It's not just for you
#1544 [13:33] <sprocket> ok
#1545 [13:33] <sprocket> thank you
#1546 [13:33] <Executi0n> No problem, the only way to check if it's up or down, go to classic server list, if you see nothing it is probably down
#1547 [13:35] <sprocket> the classic version is ok
#1548 [13:35] <sprocket> and i see the list
#1549 [13:35] <Executi0n> Classic multiplayer list..
#1550 [13:35] <Executi0n> let me check
#1551 [13:35] <Executi0n> oh yeah it is working. Try to login
#1552 [13:35] <Executi0n> In minecraft.net, and see if you got a skin change option
#1553 [13:36] <sprocket> no
#1554 [13:36] <sprocket> i can´t change my skin
#1555 [13:36] <Executi0n> But you see a changing skin option?
#1556 [13:37] <sprocket> but 2 of my friends have the same problem
#1557 [13:37] <sprocket> no
#1558 [13:37] <Executi0n> Hold on, I will give you a link to a mojang support
#1559 [13:37] <sprocket> ok
#1560 [13:39] <Executi0n> Alright, the only official support I found is by an Email
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#1563 [13:39] <Executi0n> Try contacting with Mojang here: payment@mojang.com, explain there about your problem
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#1567 [13:44] <mib_ety1q3> did any one now what´s wrong
#1568 [13:45] <mib_ety1q3> minecraft say that i don´t buy the game after an hur
#1569 [13:45] <mib_ety1q3> houre
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#1572 [13:52] <Nordas> Hello
#1573 [13:52] <Nordas> i need help
#1574 [13:52] <peru__> !paid perunio
#1575 [13:52] <Morrolan> mib_ety1q3: Did you pay with Paypal?
#1576 [13:52] <Morrolan> Nordas: What is it?
#1577 [13:52] <Nordas> can you help me?
#1578 [13:52] <Nordas> i lost my world
#1579 [13:53] <peru__> Morrolan, he disconnected
#1580 [13:53] <Morrolan> Oh. Did your computer crahs?
#1581 [13:53] <Nordas> i was playing and my laptops battery ran out
#1582 [13:53] <Morrolan> Peru__: Oh right, I really hate it when people do this.
#1583 [13:53] <peru__> hmm aubot is wrong.. i did pay for minecraft, but it said i did not
#1584 [13:53] <Morrolan> Nordas: There's a very high chance that your would got corrupted. You can try this though:
#1585 [13:54] <Nordas> k
#1586 [13:54] <Morrolan> Download MCEdit and open that world in there, and then save it again.
#1587 [13:54] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#1588 [13:54] <Nordas> i kinda tried that
#1589 [13:54] <Nordas> with older version
#1590 [13:55] <Nordas> but theres nuthing to open in the saves folder
#1591 [13:56] <Morrolan> So there is no level.dat in the folder of the world which you lost? That's bad. :/
#1592 [13:57] <Nordas> wait theres 4 worlds
#1593 [13:57] <Nordas> in the saves folder
#1594 [13:57] <Nordas> and i got 3
#1595 [13:58] <Morrolan> Yeah, most likely the one which does not show in Minecraft is the one which was loaded when the battery ran out?
#1596 [13:59] <Nordas> no i had 3 before
#1597 [13:59] <Nordas> new world, world 5 and 1
#1598 [13:59] <Nordas> and there the new world and 1, 3 and 5 in there
#1599 [14:00] <Nordas> the new world is the one i lost
#1600 [14:00] <Nordas> but theres only a mod folder in its folder
#1601 [14:01] <Nordas> i got it back
#1602 [14:01] <Nordas> :D
#1603 [14:02] <Morrolan> Oh, ok. ^^
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#1605 [14:03] <ZerZic> Hi i got a BIGASS problem...
#1606 [14:03] <Nordas> i spawned inside a wall D:
#1607 [14:03] <Nordas> and died
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#1609 [14:04] <ZerZic> I payed for premium yesterday but on the website it said something like "Failed. The card did not accept" or something, but still I got charged for it...
#1610 [14:04] <ZerZic> Not so good...
#1611 [14:04] <Morrolan> ZerZic: Email payment@mojang.com
#1612 [14:04] <ZerZic> tyy
#1613 [14:05] <veN> hey, i cant see the ghast fireballs. this isnt right, is it? :D
#1614 [14:05] <veN> on smp
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#1618 [14:14] <Sami> hi
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#1621 [14:22] <Morrolan> Sami: hey
#1622 [14:22] <Morrolan> Ah, he left as well.
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#1626 [14:28] <Sleaker> is there a better list of server.properties settings than on the MC wiki? seems like it's missing a lot of the settings
#1627 [14:29] <Morrolan> Sleaker: What settings especially?
#1628 [14:30] <Morrolan> specifically*
#1629 [14:32] <Sleaker> uh like the spawn settings
#1630 [14:32] <Sleaker> reducing spawn size etc.
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#1634 [14:39] <xolotl> Sleaker: The server.properties on the wiki is complete; any other settings are because of mods
#1635 [14:39] <xolotl> Sleaker: For which you'd have to check the docs of whatever mods you're using
#1636 [14:40] <Sleaker> ah ok.
#1637 [14:45] <veN> [19:05] veN: hey, i cant see the ghast fireballs. this isnt right, is it? :D
#1638 [14:45] <veN> [19:05] veN: on smp
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#1640 [14:45] <Compodulator|GFS> good evening
#1641 [14:45] <Compodulator|GFS> anyone on?
#1642 [14:46] <Chr|s> nope were not here
#1643 [14:47] <Chr|s> We are just a bunch of folks that idle here
#1644 [14:47] <Compodulator|GFS> right so....
#1645 [14:48] <Compodulator|GFS> i'm trying to get a friend to play minecraft, and for that purpose i lent him my accout
#1646 [14:48] <Compodulator|GFS> account*
#1647 [14:48] <Compodulator|GFS> he's trying to connect to the imdeity.com server, and it doesn't accept him due to "bad connection"
#1648 [14:49] <Chr|s> try any other server?
#1649 [14:49] <Compodulator|GFS> if anything, me and my 2.5mb/s is what you'd call "bad connection"
#1650 [14:49] <Compodulator|GFS> er
#1651 [14:49] <Compodulator|GFS> bad login
#1652 [14:49] <Chr|s> bad connection or bad login?
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#1654 [14:49] <Ace> Bad login/connection may be the server itself.
#1655 [14:50] <Compodulator|GFS> it's bad login, sorry
#1656 [14:50] <Compodulator|GFS> w00t
#1657 [14:50] <Compodulator|GFS> he's in
#1658 [14:50] <Chr|s> or it could mean that your friend entered the username or password wrong too
#1659 [14:50] <Compodulator|GFS> thanks for whatever spell you may or may not have cast :P
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#1662 [14:52] <Ace> Just the server then
#1663 [14:53] <Chr|s> could be one of the two
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#1665 [14:54] <ubuntuchosen> xales: u here? )
#1666 [14:54] <veN> STILL:
#1667 [14:54] <veN> i cant see the ghast fireballs. this isnt right, is it? :D
#1668 [14:54] <veN> on smp
#1669 [14:55] <Ace> SMP does that
#1670 [14:55] <rf> Bad Login can also mean "Playing in offline mode" and "account logged out too recently"
#1671 [14:55] <Ace> Fireballs aren't implanted yet, the nether is bugged up.
#1672 [14:55] <veN> ok thx :)
#1673 [14:59] <ubuntuchosen> xales: hello
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#1675 [14:59] <ubuntuchosen> xales: okay, ignoration. bye
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#1680 [15:06] <flabbergaster> Hello
#1681 [15:06] <flabbergaster> Can anyone help me with a problem
#1682 [15:07] <flabbergaster> I want to buy Minecraft
#1683 [15:07] <SkiingPenguins> what's problem?
#1684 [15:08] <flabbergaster> I can't get the classic version to run
#1685 [15:08] <SkiingPenguins> is there any sort of error message?
#1686 [15:08] <flabbergaster> so I'm wondering if the full version would
#1687 [15:08] <flabbergaster> no
#1688 [15:08] <SkiingPenguins> what does it do?
#1689 [15:08] <flabbergaster> It shows the loading screen in a flash, then after a while it locks my mouse in the middle of the screen
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#1691 [15:09] <flabbergaster> The screen is black
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#1693 [15:09] <Woliwonker> Hi
#1694 [15:09] <flabbergaster> Hi
#1695 [15:09] <SkiingPenguins> i dont know anything about that, maybe xales or Kealper are here and can help
#1696 [15:10] <Woliwonker> Is somebody here who knows why minecraft.net says that I haven't bought the game although I activated my account with a gift code a friend gave me 3 Months ago
#1697 [15:10] <flabbergaster> IDK
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#1699 [15:11] <Woliwonker> Somebody knows?
#1700 [15:11] <flabbergaster> Is there somewhere I can buy Minecraft alternatively
#1701 [15:11] <flabbergaster> I don't have a credit card
#1702 [15:11] <flabbergaster> I have a bank card
#1703 [15:11] <Mathuin> I think you can do it with paypal, right?
#1704 [15:11] <SkiingPenguins> does it work with paypal?
#1705 [15:11] <Woliwonker> You can buy it at many different shops with a Paysafe Card
#1706 [15:12] <Mathuin> I don't recall. I think I paid with a credit card. It's been a while.
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#1708 [15:12] <Woliwonker> but nobody can guarant that the code is right
#1709 [15:12] <flabbergaster> Ah well, I'll see if I can get a code generator
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#1711 [15:13] <Woliwonker> What
#1712 [15:14] <Woliwonker> BUY The game
#1713 [15:14] <flabbergaster> No
#1714 [15:14] <Woliwonker> Whatever
#1715 [15:16] <Woliwonker> So can somebody tell me why Minecraft.net says that I havent bought the game although I activated my account with a gift code 3 months ago
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#1718 [15:20] <lemon-rev> !paid lemonrev
#1719 [15:20] <lemon-rev> lol
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#1725 [15:31] <Woliwonker> lol I will put this at Ibash
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#1727 [15:33] <lasse> minecraft is crash every time i open it, it have started with this today, and my internet bowser do also crash if i play minecraft...is it anything i can do so i can play minecraft???
#1728 [15:34] <lemon-rev> lasse windows or other os ?
#1729 [15:34] <lasse> mac os
#1730 [15:34] <lemon-rev> lasse have you got latest java ?
#1731 [15:34] <Woliwonker> does it crash or does it say that you havent purchased the game
#1732 [15:34] <lemon-rev> not too sure atm whats going on could be database issue
#1733 [15:35] <lasse> it does crash,
#1734 [15:35] <lemon-rev> but game should still at least work, instead of crashing
#1735 [15:35] <Woliwonker> Is anybody else here who can't play minecraft because the game says that you havent purchased it although you bought it
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#1737 [15:35] <lemon-rev> wired, i just logged right in there
#1738 [15:36] <Woliwonker> WTF
#1739 [15:36] <Woliwonker> Right now im confused
#1740 [15:36] <lemon-rev> so yea i can
#1741 [15:36] <lasse> hmm
#1742 [15:36] <Woliwonker> WHY GOD WHY#
#1743 [15:36] <Woliwonker> -.-
#1744 [15:36] <Woliwonker> This is more bad then the WoW servers being down
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#1754 [16:17] <montezuma> fack what´s wrong with minecraft hat moment
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#1756 [16:18] <ThePanZielarz> Hello
#1757 [16:18] <montezuma> can any one tell me what´s wrong at moment me and my friend have the same problem
#1758 [16:18] <ThePanZielarz> What is your problem montezuma?
#1759 [16:18] <montezuma> ok
#1760 [16:19] <ThePanZielarz> I'll try to help you but i need to know what is your problem
#1761 [16:19] <montezuma> one moment my englisch is like shit
#1762 [16:19] <montezuma> xd
#1763 [16:20] <montezuma> how can i say it ok today at morning i can play minecraft
#1764 [16:20] <montezuma> ok
#1765 [16:20] <ThePanZielarz> OK ^.^
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#1767 [16:20] <montezuma> that after i coming home the minecraft site tell my i´m not a premium
#1768 [16:20] <montezuma> why
#1769 [16:21] <montezuma> 2 of my friends have the same problem
#1770 [16:21] <ThePanZielarz> Hmm... Have you bought a Minecraft?
#1771 [16:22] <ThePanZielarz> Well, the channel's topic is - We cannot help you with account issues
#1772 [16:22] <montezuma> yes i bought the game but i became a key from a friend
#1773 [16:23] <montezuma> on of my friends say the any thing is down an no one can play minecraft
#1774 [16:24] <montezuma> are you from minecraft
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#1776 [16:24] <ThePanZielarz> Nope. I'm not from Mojang - this channel is not afilliated
#1777 [16:24] <montezuma> ok
#1778 [16:25] <ThePanZielarz> Have you playing with your friends in one account
#1779 [16:25] <montezuma> no
#1780 [16:25] <montezuma> i have my one account
#1781 [16:25] <montezuma> du
#1782 [16:25] <montezuma> do you understand my problem
#1783 [16:26] <montezuma> no or
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#1785 [16:28] <ThePanZielarz> Eh...
#1786 [16:28] <ThePanZielarz> I think not
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#1788 [16:30] <montezuma> xd
#1789 [16:30] <montezuma> so ich brought the game and now i can´t play
#1790 [16:30] <montezuma> but i have play a long time befor this happent
#1791 [16:30] <oldtopman> how is that?
#1792 [16:31] <montezuma> fack what´s wrong with minecraft hat moment 21:17 *** ThePanZielarz joined #MineCraftHelp 21:17 ThePanZielarz Hello 21:18 montezuma can any one tell me what´s wrong at moment me and my friend have the same problem 21:18 ThePanZielarz What is your problem montezuma? 21:18 montezuma ok 21:18 ThePanZielarz I'll try to help you but i need to know what is your pr
#1793 [16:31] <montezuma> ok
#1794 [16:31] <montezuma> fack
#1795 [16:31] <montezuma> oldtopman can you help me
#1796 [16:32] <oldtopman> I don't get it? you paid and you can't play SMP?
#1797 [16:32] <montezuma> yes
#1798 [16:32] <oldtopman> Can you play SSP sucessfully?
#1799 [16:32] <AG_Scott> montezuma, what's your minecraft username?
#1800 [16:32] <montezuma> rockyzocky
#1801 [16:32] <AG_Scott> !paid rockyzocky
#1802 [16:33] <montezuma> wha
#1803 [16:33] <AG_Scott> Either you haven't paid or the login servers are down
#1804 [16:33] <oldtopman> !paid oldtopman
#1805 [16:33] <oldtopman> There you go, heyre down
#1806 [16:33] <montezuma> what that mean
#1807 [16:33] <oldtopman> montezuma: can you play SSP okay?
#1808 [16:33] <montezuma> ssp = classic or what
#1809 [16:34] <AG_Scott> ssp = single player
#1810 [16:34] <oldtopman> ssp=Single player
#1811 [16:34] <montezuma> no
#1812 [16:34] <oldtopman> You did download the beta clinet?
#1813 [16:34] <AG_Scott> smp = survival multiplayer
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#1815 [16:34] <oldtopman> ??> montezuma client
#1816 [16:34] <montezuma> yes but i ever play about the browser
#1817 [16:35] <oldtopman> ??>> oldtopman index
#1818 [16:35] <montezuma> index
#1819 [16:35] <montezuma> what that mean
#1820 [16:36] <montezuma> that i must show you that i play the game or what
#1821 [16:36] <oldtopman> Its for the bot
#1822 [16:36] <oldtopman> This is what you were supposed to get
#1823 [16:36] <oldtopman> !client
#1824 [16:36] <oldtopman> ^^Did you get one of tose?
#1825 [16:36] <montezuma> yes
#1826 [16:36] <oldtopman> What happens when you try to login?
#1827 [16:37] <montezuma> they tell that i´m not premium
#1828 [16:37] <montezuma> but this morning i play minecraft
#1829 [16:37] <oldtopman> Is this the first time ou've tried to run the game since you bought it?
#1830 [16:37] <montezuma> no
#1831 [16:38] <montezuma> i play it one week
#1832 [16:38] <oldtopman> Is this the first time ou've tried to run the game on this computer since you bought it?
#1833 [16:38] <montezuma> no
#1834 [16:38] <montezuma> what
#1835 [16:38] <montezuma> so
#1836 [16:38] <montezuma> i play the game than a friend told me that he don´t
#1837 [16:38] <montezuma> can´t in
#1838 [16:38] <oldtopman> When you first start the game, it has to download a whole bunch of files. It will only download them if it sees you are premium.
#1839 [16:38] <montezuma> so i went out of
#1840 [16:39] <oldtopman> If the servers are down, the games act as though nobodys premium
#1841 [16:39] <montezuma> which servers are down
#1842 [16:39] <oldtopman> ??> montezuma mc.net/auth
#1843 [16:40] <montezuma> so no one come in
#1844 [16:40] <oldtopman> ??> montezuma mc.net/authdown
#1845 [16:40] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (mc.net/authdown) If you get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the downloaded beta client, and the website is up, the authentication server is most likely overloaded. Please be patient, and in the meantime, try using the in-browser client available at minecraft.net until Mojang can address this issue.
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#1847 [16:40] <oldtopman> ^^What you have is a similar problem
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#1849 [16:40] <montezuma> ok and when i can play next time
#1850 [16:41] <oldtopman> Where did you buy minecraft from?
#1851 [16:41] <oldtopman> Can you give me the link?
#1852 [16:41] <montezuma> a friend sent my a key
#1853 [16:42] <montezuma> no
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#1855 [16:42] <oldtopman> Have you used that key to make an account yet?
#1856 [16:43] <oldtopman> montezuma: http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=rockyzocky vs. http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=oldtopman
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#1865 [17:06] <Dale> can anyone help me?
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#1867 [17:07] <bread> if you'd tell us the problem, maybe.
#1868 [17:07] <Chr|s> lol
#1869 [17:08] <Dale> when i click enter game it says bad drivers
#1870 [17:08] <bread> Then maybe you have bad drivers.
#1871 [17:08] <bread> You should install non-bad drivers.
#1872 [17:09] <Dale> idk how to do that
#1873 [17:09] <xales> ??> Dale win/dxdiag
#1874 [17:09] <VoxelHead> Dale: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1875 [17:09] <VoxelHead> Dale: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#1877 [17:10] <noahk11> Please test my minecraft server
#1878 [17:10] <noahk11> anyone
#1879 [17:10] <xales> You can use the bot
#1880 [17:10] <noahk11> ok
#1881 [17:10] <xales> just say "!check (ip)"
#1882 [17:10] <noahk11> !check 71.228.144.201:25510
#1883 [17:11] <bread> \o/
#1884 [17:11] <noahk11> can i have someone actually go on
#1885 [17:12] <noahk11> ?
#1886 [17:12] <Dale> then wat
#1887 [17:12] <noahk11> r u on?
#1888 [17:13] <xales> Dale: follow all of the instructions
#1889 [17:13] <xales> you need to copy it to pastebin, and give us the link
#1890 [17:13] <noahk11> Please go on my minecraft server to see if it works, no bots please
#1891 [17:14] <xales> noahk11: it worked fine
#1892 [17:14] <Bob_Sack> hey where's our help-bot joshua?
#1893 [17:14] <bread> lol
#1894 [17:14] <noahk11> Thats what the bot said not a real person
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#1896 [17:14] <bread> hi Joshua
#1897 [17:14] <xales> Hi Joshua
#1898 [17:14] <Joshua> joshua
#1899 [17:14] <Joshua> hi joshua
#1900 [17:14] <bread> lol
#1901 [17:14] <Bob_Sack> Joshua what's your opinion on all of this
#1902 [17:15] * Joshua : the shield continues
#1902 [17:15] <bread> lololol
#1903 [17:15] <Bob_Sack> u got your answer
#1904 [17:15] <xales> Joshua: Raise the shield!
#1905 [17:15] <Joshua> the shield
#1906 [17:15] <xales> :|
#1907 [17:15] <bread> Joshua what do you do about bad drivers?
#1908 [17:15] <Joshua> trek too bad,
#1909 [17:16] <noahk11> help?
#1910 [17:16] <noahk11> No one is responding
#1911 [17:16] <noahk11> !check 71.228.144.201:25510
#1912 [17:16] <bread> everything looks fine
#1913 [17:16] <xales> noahk11: it worked. people probably don't have time to check it themselves. I don't. that is what the bot is for
#1914 [17:17] <Dale> http://pastebin.com/7mZUXRMP
#1915 [17:17] <noahk11> Fine dont help me
#1916 [17:18] <Bob_Sack> people are helping you noahk11
#1917 [17:18] <bread> !check 72.69.93.177:59376
#1918 [17:18] <bread> ha
#1919 [17:18] <Bob_Sack> you're not accepting their help tho
#1920 [17:18] <bread> win
#1921 [17:18] <xales> Dale: holy crap...that is a really old graphics card
#1922 [17:18] <xales> that computer doesn't meet the requirements to run Minecraft, sorry
#1923 [17:18] <Chr|s> Joshua: is back yay
#1924 [17:18] <noahk11> can someone log on to my server please?
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#1926 [17:18] <tehNeRo> Hey
#1927 [17:18] <xales> noahk11: the bot just did. it worked fine.
#1928 [17:19] <xales> tehNeRo: hello
#1929 [17:19] <noahk11> ok
#1930 [17:19] <tehNeRo> Can anyone help me?
#1931 [17:19] <Joshua> we don't back off Chr|s we're just going to feed it all of Chr|sikipedia
#1932 [17:19] <xales> tehNeRo: with?
#1933 [17:19] <Chr|s> o.0
#1934 [17:19] <noahk11> its not saying the bot joined my server though
#1935 [17:19] <tehNeRo> I wanted to install a mod, but it's not functioning
#1936 [17:19] <xales> noahk11: it doesn't recognize the bot
#1937 [17:19] <xales> ??> tehNeRo mods
#1938 [17:19] <VoxelHead> tehNeRo: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1939 [17:19] <tehNeRo> I've followed every tutorial and video I've found to the letter
#1940 [17:19] <VoxelHead> tehNeRo: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1941 [17:19] <tehNeRo> Ah
#1942 [17:19] <tehNeRo> Thanks
#1943 [17:20] <Bob_Sack> pff joshua could've told him that
#1944 [17:20] <Dale> xales: is there a way to fick it
#1945 [17:20] <tehNeRo> I've been having trouble navigate the irc
#1946 [17:20] <xales> Dale: Unfortunately, no. The card you have is almost 10 years old.
#1947 [17:20] <xales> You would have to buy a new computer
#1948 [17:20] <Joshua> i could forget everything about Bob_Sackinecraft and play it like
#1949 [17:20] <Bob_Sack> f u joshua
#1950 [17:20] <bread> lol
#1951 [17:21] <bread> Bob_Sackincraft is the best
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#1953 [17:21] <Bob_Sack> what's up with him and replacing the first letter of words with a username?
#1954 [17:21] <bread> Joshua: breadincraft?
#1955 [17:21] <Dale> xales: is there like a older minecraft that would work
#1956 [17:21] <bread> lol
#1957 [17:21] <Joshua> bread : new guy ?
#1958 [17:21] <bread> no Dale, there's not
#1959 [17:21] <xales> Dale: No - even the oldest version wouldn't work
#1960 [17:21] <xales> I can't emphasize how old 10 years is in the computer world
#1961 [17:22] <bread> 10 years ago, was Windows 2000
#1962 [17:22] <bread> Well actually
#1963 [17:22] <Bob_Sack> the rest of his PC isn't bad. it's just his card
#1964 [17:22] <bread> Windows XP was released 10 years ago
#1965 [17:22] <xales> Bob_Sack: it preprocesses each line and replaces a nick with "#nick"
#1966 [17:22] <xales> some people have weird single-letter nicks
#1967 [17:22] <xales> so a word like minecraft could become #nickcraft
#1968 [17:23] <bread> #nickincraft
#1969 [17:23] <bread> the best
#1970 [17:23] <Bob_Sack> oh lawl
#1971 [17:23] <xales> when it outputs something, it replaces #nick with the nick of the person talking to it
#1972 [17:23] <xales> example
#1973 [17:23] <xales> !known Bob_Sack
#1974 [17:23] <Joshua> xales is known (95 contexts)
#1975 [17:23] <Bob_Sack> very sophisticated programming
#1976 [17:23] <xales> it replaced Bob_Sack with #nick and when it outputted it, changed #nick to xales
#1977 [17:23] <xales> isn't it? :3
#1978 [17:23] <bread> pyborg is so great
#1979 [17:24] <bread> omg xales I fed mine the 'you're a wizard, harry' video
#1980 [17:24] <Bob_Sack> i so wanna get one for my server's irc channel
#1981 [17:24] <xales> bread: lol
#1982 [17:24] <xales> Bob_Sack: I can put Josh in there, but it will be stupid with the gateway's formatting, sadly
#1983 [17:25] <bread> [17:24] <@bread> yer a wank stain ellie
#1984 [17:25] <bread> [17:24] <@EllieG> ll fucking set yer beard on fire
#1985 [17:25] <bread> lol
#1986 [17:25] <bread> :o
#1987 [17:25] <bread> y u do that AuBot
#1988 [17:25] <Bob_Sack> aubot doesn't like copypastas
#1989 [17:25] <xales> LOL
#1990 [17:25] <xales> BREAD
#1991 [17:25] <bread> oh ffuuu
#1992 [17:26] <xales> GIVE T O ME
#1993 [17:26] <bread> hahahah
#1994 [17:26] <oldtopman> AuBot missed you bread.
#1995 [17:26] <bread> xales: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/wizardharry.txt
#1996 [17:26] <bread> :D
#1997 [17:26] <xales> did you type that out? lol
#1998 [17:27] <bread> no I took it from the video's desription lol
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#2000 [17:27] <xales> lol
#2001 [17:27] <xales> Joshua: you are a wizard
#2002 [17:27] <Joshua> pff joshua could've found a way to fick it
#2003 [17:27] <xales> Joshua: yer a wank stain
#2004 [17:27] <Joshua> naw yer arm off, hagrid, i don't take six hours
#2005 [17:27] <xales> LOL
#2006 [17:27] <bread> hahahhah
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#2009 [17:30] <aetherian> huh wha
#2010 [17:30] <aetherian> whozzat
#2011 [17:30] <Dale> xales: can i update my graphics card
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#2014 [17:30] <xales> Dale: No, not in a computer that old
#2015 [17:30] <xales> you would have to replace it
#2016 [17:31] <aetherian> who's flareboy
#2017 [17:31] <aetherian> and wb, vox
#2018 [17:32] <Dale> were is the graphics card located at in the tower
#2019 [17:33] <xales> Dale: it's not something you can replace - you would also have to replace the motherboard
#2020 [17:33] <bread> And replacing the motherboard pretty much = replacing everything
#2021 [17:33] <aetherian> at a certain point, you end up replacing your computer
#2022 [17:35] <Bob_Sack> uh even if it's integrated, he could just buy a graphics card right?
#2023 [17:35] <xales> No
#2024 [17:35] <xales> On a computer that old, it won't support PCIE
#2025 [17:35] <Bob_Sack> right
#2026 [17:35] <xales> So no modern cards
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#2029 [17:44] <agaeki> guys: my minecraft is consistently crashing every few minutes; the program goes black and stops responding but sound continues; this is in multiplayer mode; i'm running windows 7; does anyone have any suggestsions/fixes?
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#2031 [17:44] <oldtopman> ??> agaeki win/reinst
#2032 [17:44] <VoxelHead> agaeki: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2033 [17:44] <VoxelHead> agaeki: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2034 [17:45] <mib_tnvm21> Hey guys I was wondering if there's a way to change my minecraft nickname?
#2035 [17:45] <xales> mib_tnvm21: not at the moment. there might be sometime in the future
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#2037 [17:45] <mib_tnvm21> Kay, thank you
#2038 [17:45] <Joey> Uh.
#2039 [17:45] <Joey> I got somewhat a problem when I try to start minecraft.
#2040 [17:45] <xales> Joey: Care to elaborate?
#2041 [17:45] <Joey> Something with some file called jvm.dll.
#2042 [17:46] <Joey> Just wont start.
#2043 [17:46] <xales> Do you have Java installed?
#2044 [17:46] <Joey> Yep, I think.
#2045 [17:46] <xales> Uninstall it, and reinstall it
#2046 [17:46] <Joey> Let me find it, sec.
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#2049 [17:49] <Joey> Now I got Java, but when I try to start minecraft, I just heard a sound and nothing happens (y)
#2050 [17:49] <xales> ??> Joey win/reinst
#2051 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Joey: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2052 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Joey: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2054 [17:50] <Joey> Did that, yet again it doesnt work.
#2055 [17:51] <xales> try restarting
#2056 [17:51] <Joey> The computer ?
#2057 [17:51] <xales> yeah
#2058 [17:51] <Joey> Aight
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#2064 [17:56] <Joey> Still wont work.
#2065 [17:56] <xales> Can you play in the browser?
#2066 [17:56] <xales> http://minecraft.net/play/
#2067 [17:56] <Joey> Nope
#2068 [17:56] <Joey> <.<
#2069 [17:56] <xales> what happens with that?
#2070 [17:57] <Joey> No page even loads..
#2071 [17:57] <xales> okay then
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#2073 [17:57] <xales> what version of Windows?
#2074 [17:58] <Joey> XP ?
#2075 [17:58] <xales> ok
#2076 [17:58] <bread> 10 year old OS
#2077 [17:58] <bread> oh man, XP is old lol
#2078 [17:58] <xales> press Win+R (win key = between control and alt)
#2079 [17:58] <xales> type "cmd" and click Run
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#2081 [17:58] <Misan> hi
#2082 [17:58] <xales> then type "ping minecraft.net" and hit enter
#2083 [17:58] <xales> hello Misan
#2084 [17:58] <Misan> is there any map renderer for the new file format yet? :(
#2085 [17:58] <xales> yes
#2086 [17:58] <xales> several
#2087 [17:58] <Misan> :/ i tried severals
#2088 [17:58] <xales> on the first line it will say something like "Pinging minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]"
#2089 [17:58] <xales> what are the numbers in the brackets?
#2090 [17:59] <Misan> would be nice if you tell me one
#2091 [17:59] <Misan> :)
#2092 [17:59] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2093 [17:59] <Joey> 50.16.203.217
#2094 [17:59] <xales> Misan: mcedit
#2095 [17:59] <Joey> I think
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#2097 [17:59] <xales> and when you go to minecraft.net ... you just get a white screen?
#2098 [18:00] <Joey> Yah.
#2099 [18:00] <Misan> mcedit? isnt that a map editor?
#2100 [18:00] <Misan> i need a renderer
#2101 [18:00] <xales> oh, right
#2102 [18:01] <xales> there are 4 or 5
#2103 [18:01] <xales> listed on the wiki
#2104 [18:01] <xales> Joey: what username are you logging in with?
#2105 [18:01] <Kealper> if you have a multicore cpu, and run windows.... c10t is nice
#2106 [18:01] <Kealper> very fast
#2107 [18:01] <xolotl> Misan: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors
#2108 [18:01] <Misan> i were there
#2109 [18:01] <Misan> no render engine works >.>
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#2111 [18:02] <xales> derp?
#2112 [18:03] <Misan> >.<
#2113 [18:03] <Misan> omgg
#2114 [18:03] <Kealper> what are you trying to render? beta maps or classic maps?
#2115 [18:03] <Misan> *rage quit*
#2116 [18:03] <Misan> beta!
#2117 [18:04] <Kealper> c10t :/
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#2119 [18:04] <Kealper> i use it and it works really fast
#2120 [18:04] <xolotl> Misan: So, you know, try out the ones that say they support Beta? (Or "McRegion," for post-1.3 maps)
#2121 [18:04] <Misan> yes, i tried the beta ones.
#2122 [18:04] <Misan> but they say they cant open it (yes i closed mc)
#2123 [18:04] <Misan> and unknown file format etc
#2124 [18:04] <Misan> i try it kealper
#2125 [18:05] <Kealper> then you have mods on there that have altered it
#2126 [18:05] <xolotl> Misan: Well, good luck. All the info you need should be right there.
#2127 [18:05] <Misan> D:
#2128 [18:05] <Misan> kay
#2129 [18:05] <Kealper> are you running any mods?
#2130 [18:05] <Misan> NO
#2131 [18:05] <Misan> vanillaa
#2132 [18:05] <Kealper> weird
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#2134 [18:07] <Misan> c10t crashes on loading
#2135 [18:09] <Kealper> then something is awry with your map :/
#2136 [18:11] <Misan> aw
#2137 [18:11] <Misan> its not my map
#2138 [18:11] <Misan> its the program
#2139 [18:11] <Misan> well
#2140 [18:11] <Kealper> the program faithfully processes my 100mb smp map every 12 hours without issues :/
#2141 [18:12] <Misan> now i downloaded some of 100 binary files with source code within and it seems to work.. it renders but.. it puts the output anywhere. and not even my search can find it
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#2143 [18:12] <Misan> why cant it be just a single stupid file >.>
#2144 [18:12] <VoxelHead> bye joshua
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#2146 [18:14] <Misan> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13391025/screenshot_20110322231357.jpg
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#2148 [18:14] <Misan> where the hell did he put that stupid image ! D:
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#2152 [18:16] <xarcus> hi can someone help me?
#2153 [18:16] <xales> with?
#2154 [18:16] <xarcus> i just made a server
#2155 [18:16] <xarcus> and i have firends that i want to give permission to alter the world
#2156 [18:16] <xarcus> like open up chests and take things, destroy blocks and place blocks
#2157 [18:16] <xarcus> etc
#2158 [18:16] <xarcus> but i dont want them to have power of an op
#2159 [18:16] <xarcus> because i know they will give themselves stuff
#2160 [18:16] <xales> there is no permission system by default
#2161 [18:16] <xarcus> which is what i dont want
#2162 [18:17] <xarcus> ok
#2163 [18:17] <xales> they can modify the entire world, just not the spawn area
#2164 [18:17] <xales> only ops can change the area near the spawn
#2165 [18:17] <xarcus> so i have to download something for them to
#2166 [18:17] <xarcus> oh
#2167 [18:17] <xarcus> i have been moving around the spawn area
#2168 [18:17] <xarcus> closer to the house
#2169 [18:17] <xarcus> so if i move the spawn area elsewhere?
#2170 [18:17] <Bob_Sack> if u dont like the spawn area having protection, go to your server.properties and change spawn protection to 0
#2171 [18:17] <xales> Bob_Sack: it's not an option by default.
#2172 [18:17] <xarcus> opk
#2173 [18:17] <Bob_Sack> oh realy?
#2174 [18:18] <xales> xarcus: you would need a mod to turn it off
#2175 [18:18] <xales> or just build your house away from the spawn :|
#2176 [18:18] <Bob_Sack> thats silly
#2177 [18:18] <VoxelHead> thats silly... thilly
#2178 [18:19] <xarcus> wait
#2179 [18:19] <xarcus> so i fi open up the server properties
#2180 [18:19] <Misan> i want a programm, and what do i get? the source code for self compiling >.>
#2181 [18:19] <xales> it's not in the server.properties
#2182 [18:19] <xarcus> and create a spawn protection
#2183 [18:19] <xarcus> but i cant add it?
#2184 [18:19] <Bob_Sack> i guess not xarcus
#2185 [18:19] <xales> you need a mod to change spawn protection
#2186 [18:19] <xarcus> ok
#2187 [18:20] <xarcus> and also
#2188 [18:20] <xarcus> the upload speeds of my server to 2 people are around 20 kb/s
#2189 [18:20] <xarcus> which i dont think is enough ebcause they are lagging pretty bad
#2190 [18:20] <xarcus> is there some way for me to throttle the upload?
#2191 [18:20] <Bob_Sack> have you opened your minecraft port?
#2192 [18:20] <VoxelHead> medium-rare
#2193 [18:20] <xarcus> 25565?
#2194 [18:20] <xarcus> yes
#2195 [18:20] <xales> Bob_Sack: if they can connect, then it's forwarded :|
#2196 [18:21] <xales> xarcus: http://speedtest.net/
#2197 [18:21] <Bob_Sack> pff
#2198 [18:21] <xales> run it, post the results
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#2200 [18:24] <Misan> can someone tell me what i do wrong! D:
#2201 [18:24] <Misan> how do i use github? i want to download a program, and i get the source code, without binary
#2202 [18:25] <VoxelHead> I like them =D.
#2203 [18:26] <xales> find a binary download
#2204 [18:26] <xales> github = source code
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#2206 [18:28] <xales> Joshua: derp
#2207 [18:28] <bacon> derp?
#2208 [18:28] <Bob_Sack> Joshua: herp da derp
#2209 [18:29] <xales> Bob_Sack: it only talks in #8bc now
#2210 [18:29] <xales> it learns from all channels however
#2211 [18:29] <Bob_Sack> uh huh
#2212 [18:29] <Bob_Sack> lame
#2213 [18:29] <Chr|s> very
#2214 [18:29] <Chr|s> why the change
#2215 [18:29] <Chr|s> someone complain?
#2216 [18:30] <xales> other ops :|
#2217 [18:30] <Bob_Sack> $10 says its bildramer
#2218 [18:30] <xales> and someone else too
#2219 [18:30] <Chr|s> of course
#2220 [18:30] <Chr|s> Im sure I could name a few people lol
#2221 [18:30] <Chr|s> they had to go tattlel lol
#2222 [18:30] <Chr|s> tattle
#2223 [18:31] <Bob_Sack> i can't guess any other ops that'd complain besides bild
#2224 [18:31] <VoxelHead> Mmm Kurimus.
#2225 [18:31] <Bob_Sack> maybe grey
#2226 [18:31] <xales> nope
#2227 [18:31] <xarcus> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215487766.png
#2228 [18:32] <xarcus> those are my results
#2229 [18:32] <xarcus> from teh speedtest
#2230 [18:32] <AG_Clinton> Wow.
#2231 [18:32] <AG_Clinton> That's awful.
#2232 [18:32] <xarcus> thats w/ server running and shit
#2233 [18:32] <Chr|s> wow
#2234 [18:32] <xarcus> anyway
#2235 [18:32] <xarcus> i should be able to put out more than 20 kb/s
#2236 [18:32] <xarcus> so what do i do
#2237 [18:32] <xales> xarcus: yeah, that's the cause of the lag
#2238 [18:32] <Chr|s> I couldn't stand a connection like that
#2239 [18:32] <Chr|s> id have to shoot myself
#2240 [18:32] <xales> not fast enough to run a Minecraft server
#2241 [18:32] <xarcus> its really not that bad
#2242 [18:32] <Bob_Sack> seriously do u use dial-up?
#2243 [18:32] <Chr|s> lol
#2244 [18:33] <Bob_Sack> or 2 cans tied by string as internet?
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#2246 [18:33] <AG_Clinton> You cannot run a MC server on that.
#2247 [18:34] <Chr|s> this is mine and its slow right now because of high utilization http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215490218.png
#2248 [18:34] <Chr|s> I usually get above 15mbps and up
#2249 [18:34] <Chr|s> download is great, upload sucks, upload is capped :(
#2250 [18:35] <xales> this is mine
#2251 [18:35] <xales> you are now mad: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215491692.png
#2252 [18:35] <Chr|s> yeah
#2253 [18:35] <Chr|s> definately hate you
#2254 [18:35] <Chr|s> verizon fios?
#2255 [18:35] <VoxelHead> wtf are you asking me for?
#2256 [18:35] <Kealper> that's a nice ping, but my upload is faster :3
#2257 [18:35] <xales> yes
#2258 [18:36] <Chr|s> yeah can't get it around here Time Warner Cable territory :(
#2259 [18:36] <xales> Kealper: *cough*seeding*cough*
#2260 [18:36] <Chr|s> but TWC going to have more data plans
#2261 [18:37] <Kealper> same
#2262 [18:37] <Kealper> lemme post mine
#2263 [18:37] <Kealper> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215494558.png
#2264 [18:37] <Kealper> fuuuu!
#2265 [18:37] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2266 [18:37] <Chr|s> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_Runner_High_Speed_Online
#2267 [18:37] <Chr|s> look at the tier service
#2268 [18:37] <Kealper> i should pause my seeds and redo that :/
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#2270 [18:37] <ReD> quick question
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#2272 [18:38] <Grapuh> So, do I need to buy the game in order to play Multiplayer mode?
#2273 [18:38] <Kealper> i wonder how much they charge for that 50/5 mbit
#2274 [18:38] <ReD> running a MC Server on an i7 6GB. 50/2 mbit connection, and it laggs.. what is the issue??
#2275 [18:38] <Chr|s> oh man its not gonna be cheap
#2276 [18:39] <ReD> 50/2 where I am is $110 a month
#2277 [18:39] <xales> ReD: Probably CPU or network
#2278 [18:39] <Chr|s> ahh that isn't too bad
#2279 [18:39] <Kealper> Chr|s: Comcast around here has 100/10 mbit internet for businesses, but it's like $400/mo
#2280 [18:39] <Chr|s> id pay that
#2281 [18:39] <xales> Minecraft can't utilize multiple cores
#2282 [18:39] <Chr|s> wow
#2283 [18:39] <xales> so you have to ahve a good clock speed
#2284 [18:39] <xales> anyway
#2285 [18:39] <xales> kealper can help you
#2286 [18:39] <xales> I'm off to go eat some dinner :)
#2287 [18:39] <Kealper> :<
#2288 [18:39] <Kealper> \o
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#2291 [18:40] <ReD> 2.8 ghz
#2292 [18:40] <Kealper> fine, don't wave back >.>
#2293 [18:40] <quiggle> hi
#2294 [18:40] <Kealper> hi
#2295 [18:40] <quiggle> ohh :)
#2296 [18:40] <Jordan589> im about to buy minecraft but it wants me to pay in euros and i have to pay in USD
#2297 [18:40] <Kealper> ReD: define lag
#2298 [18:40] <quiggle> can you help me ??
#2299 [18:40] <Jordan589> will it automatically convert it?
#2300 [18:40] <Bob_Sack> Jodan589: yes it will
#2301 [18:40] <Kealper> ReD: massive delay or just a few seconds of delay?
#2302 [18:40] <quiggle> how a single tree in the game is broken ?
#2303 [18:40] <Jordan589> k thanks :)
#2304 [18:40] <ReD> users break blocks, and it takes multiple seconds for them to bust..
#2305 [18:40] <Grapuh> .
#2306 [18:41] <Kealper> quiggle: what do you mean broken?
#2307 [18:41] <ReD> counted the highest was 5 seconds
#2308 [18:41] <Grapuh> Oh geez, I'm lagging badly
#2309 [18:41] <Kealper> ReD: sounds like internet lag, are you doing anything else on your internet?
#2310 [18:41] <ReD> just playing on my server
#2311 [18:41] <Kealper> ReD: http://speedtest.net put results image that it gives you after the test in here
#2312 [18:41] <ReD> and talkin in IRC :P
#2313 [18:41] <quiggle> i don't block crash
#2314 [18:42] <Grapuh> .
#2315 [18:42] <Kealper> quiggle: i am sorry, i can not understand what you are trying to say :/
#2316 [18:42] <Kealper> (if someone understands what he is saying, please explain it to me :/)
#2317 [18:42] <quiggle> ım soryy ı cant speak
#2318 [18:43] <quiggle> google translate :D
#2319 [18:43] <quiggle> wait ?
#2320 [18:43] <Kealper> oh....
#2321 [18:43] <ReD> upload is a bit slower than usual, usually is around 2.. but download is soaring atm.. :P
#2322 [18:43] <ReD> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215501537.png
#2323 [18:43] <quiggle> tree my rent reviews
#2324 [18:44] <Kealper> ReD: wow
#2325 [18:44] <Chr|s> holy hell ReD
#2326 [18:44] <Chr|s> twtf
#2327 [18:44] <Chr|s> OMG
#2328 [18:44] <Chr|s> I hate you
#2329 [18:44] <AG_Clinton> Anyone want to test out a free MC server or two?
#2330 [18:44] <Chr|s> no offense
#2331 [18:44] <AG_Clinton> Testing out a new system.
#2332 [18:44] <ReD> haha
#2333 [18:44] <Kealper> AG_Clinton: i can in a few
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#2335 [18:44] <ReD> this was the best I got from upload..
#2336 [18:44] <ReD> http://speedtest.net/result/1192307174.png
#2337 [18:45] <Kealper> ReD: how many users are on your server? because that upload speed is garbage (sorry, but it is)
#2338 [18:45] <quiggle> i dont break tree
#2339 [18:45] <AG_Clinton> https://allgamer.net/clients/cart.php?a=add&pid=55
#2340 [18:45] <quiggle> why
#2341 [18:45] <AG_Clinton> If anyone wants to play with it.
#2342 [18:45] <Chr|s> Kealper: its sufficient though
#2343 [18:45] <ReD> yes the upload is terrible, but it's the fastest my ISP has..
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#2345 [18:45] <ReD> right now there is 3 people including myself.
#2346 [18:46] <Grapuh> Uncool lag.
#2347 [18:46] <Chr|s> red I would love if I could get a bot on your computer lol j/k
#2348 [18:46] <quiggle> Ä° dont break any blocks :S
#2349 [18:46] <ReD> hahaha
#2350 [18:46] <VoxelHead> are we going to have trouble, soldier?
#2351 [18:46] <quiggle> ::(
#2352 [18:46] <Chr|s> ReD: do you have a metered bandwith?
#2353 [18:47] <Bob_Sack> quiggle: are you playing online?
#2354 [18:47] <Grapuh> So, do I need to buy the game in order to play Multiplayer mode? (sorry if you saw the question before and you answered, I'm lagging badly)
#2355 [18:47] <quiggle> please answer :)
#2356 [18:47] <Kealper> Grapuh: yes
#2357 [18:47] <ReD> 185gbs a month
#2358 [18:47] <ReD> which is nearly impossible to use sometimes
#2359 [18:47] <xales> Grapuh: You have to buy it to play it at all. Excluding the online version, older, but free, version
#2360 [18:47] <Grapuh> Thank you.
#2361 [18:47] <Chr|s> RecQuery: ReD seriously? that isn't much :( id go past that quite a bit with download speeds
#2362 [18:47] <Kealper> Comcast has 250gb/mo caps, and i've tickled that before :/
#2363 [18:47] <quiggle> Let someone help
#2364 [18:48] <xales> quiggle: are you playing Multiplayer?
#2365 [18:48] <Katzuyu> If i would like to spawn say "Orange Dye" How do i know what ID it has? Inc sac have 351, however, the others doesn't say on minecraft wiwki :O
#2366 [18:48] <Kealper> xales: i don't suppose you know Turkish?
#2367 [18:48] <quiggle> no single
#2368 [18:48] <xales> Katzuyu: you can't by default
#2369 [18:48] <quiggle> ewet
#2370 [18:48] <xales> Krno
#2371 [18:48] <Chr|s> luckly Time Warner Cable isn't capping it yet
#2372 [18:48] <xales> quiggle: hold down the mouse button
#2373 [18:48] <quiggle> left
#2374 [18:48] <ReD> so should I limit the MC Server Process to 1 Core, and see what happens?
#2375 [18:48] <Katzuyu> quiggle, okey, ty
#2376 [18:48] <Kealper> Chr|s: i think they just did very recently
#2377 [18:48] <Bob_Sack> quiggle: yes, the left one
#2378 [18:48] <quiggle> but dont
#2379 [18:49] <Chr|s> Kealper: Yeah, trial testing. Then they stopped.
#2380 [18:49] <Chr|s> in a few citys
#2381 [18:49] <ReD> I've set it to real time priority on Taskmanager, and it's seemed to help
#2382 [18:49] <xales> ReD: It sounds like CPU then
#2383 [18:49] <Kealper> Chr|s: but trials means they are seriously considering it :/
#2384 [18:49] <xales> what's the clock speed?
#2385 [18:49] <Kealper> 2.8Ghz
#2386 [18:49] <bread> xales y u no eating dinner
#2387 [18:49] <xales> oh, nevermind then...no idea :\
#2388 [18:49] <ReD> 2.8ghz
#2389 [18:49] <Chr|s> Kealper: true
#2390 [18:49] <quiggle> ok clik the left mouse button but dont broekn block
#2391 [18:49] <Kealper> ReD: set process priority to above normal
#2392 [18:49] <ReD> but it's an i7. which was said up there.. doesn't help..
#2393 [18:50] <Kealper> quiggle: hold the left mouse button down
#2394 [18:50] <quiggle> repeatedly
#2395 [18:50] <ReD> it's @ realtime atm.
#2396 [18:50] <Bob_Sack> quiggle: dont click the button repeatedly
#2397 [18:50] <ReD> and users online say, no lag.. atm..
#2398 [18:50] <quiggle> yes but dont
#2399 [18:50] <Bob_Sack> quiggle: hold it down until the block breaks
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#2401 [18:50] <quiggle> I'll try thanks everybody
#2402 [18:50] <lumbridge> any good beta servers?
#2403 [18:51] <xales> ??> lumbridge smp/servers
#2404 [18:51] <VoxelHead> lumbridge: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2405 [18:51] <VoxelHead> lumbridge: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2406 [18:51] <lumbridge> yes
#2407 [18:51] <lumbridge> ok
#2408 [18:51] <lumbridge> ty
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#2410 [18:51] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
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#2412 [18:51] <quiggle> thanks thanks thanks :)
#2413 [18:51] <quiggle> ok
#2414 [18:52] <quiggle> good night muck :)
#2415 [18:53] <ReD> okay so I've limited it to 1 core, and set it to realtine, seems to be working okay.. unfortunately there is no other solution (as far as I can see), thanks for the help guys.
#2416 [18:54] <Kealper> ReD: uhh
#2417 [18:54] <Kealper> will it work fine with just having it distributed across all cores and set at above normal?
#2418 [18:55] <Kealper> because although minecraft is only one thread, java itself has multiple threads and can benifit from multicore cpus
#2419 [18:55] <ReD> right now it's set to core 3 and realtime, and from what I can hear works beautiful..
#2420 [18:55] <ReD> but i will dis. it across all 8 and see if there is a difference.
#2421 [18:55] <agaeki> VoxelHead: thanks btw, your thing worked
#2422 [18:55] <Kealper> set it to use all cores, and set it down to "Above Normal" and see how it does
#2423 [18:55] <Kealper> also, that cpu does not actually have 8 cores, it's only got 4
#2424 [18:56] <ReD> well yeah
#2425 [18:56] <Kealper> windows shows a hyperthreaded core as two separate cores :/
#2426 [18:56] <ReD> 8 with hyper thread..
#2427 [18:56] <ReD> yup
#2428 [18:56] <ReD> seems to be working just fine
#2429 [18:57] <ReD> "instant breakage" was a comment by one of my mates
#2430 [18:57] <Kealper> yeah, i run mine at above normal priority and that "can't keep up" warning is a thing of the past, and people say mine runs as smooth as silk, so that should do fine
#2431 [18:57] <ReD> Right, well thanks for your time..
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#2433 [18:57] <Ownerthugz> hi
#2434 [18:57] <Kealper> hi
#2435 [18:57] <Ownerthugz> i need help
#2436 [18:57] <Kealper> and np ReD
#2437 [18:57] <Ownerthugz> please :)
#2438 [18:57] <ReD> If I run into any other issues, I will ask you for help..
#2439 [18:58] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: care to elaborate?
#2440 [18:58] <ReD> Thanks again! Great support :)
#2441 [18:58] <ReD> Take care!
#2442 [18:58] <Ownerthugz> yes
#2443 [18:58] <Kealper> ReD: that's what we're here for :P
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#2445 [18:58] <ReD> :D
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#2447 [18:58] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2448 [18:58] <Ownerthugz> can anyone help me make a server, so me and my friends can play together?
#2449 [18:58] <Ownerthugz> I've tried, but I can log on and they can't
#2450 [18:58] <Ownerthugz> worked for hours and can't figure it out.
#2451 [18:59] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: what IP were you using to log in, and what IP did you tell them to use?
#2452 [18:59] <Ownerthugz> I used my own internal IP to log in, and told them my external IP
#2453 [18:59] <Kealper> did you set up port forwarding in your router?
#2454 [19:00] <Ownerthugz> yes.
#2455 [19:00] <Ownerthugz> 25565.
#2456 [19:00] <Kealper> and it is forwarded to your computer's internal ip?
#2457 [19:00] <Ownerthugz> Yes.
#2458 [19:01] <Ownerthugz> and I allowed the port in FireWall.
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#2460 [19:01] <Kealper> did you touch the file called server.properties at all?
#2461 [19:02] <Ownerthugz> yea
#2462 [19:03] <xales> what did you change?
#2463 [19:03] <Kealper> did you change the spot called server-ip?
#2464 [19:03] <Ownerthugz> yes
#2465 [19:03] <Ownerthugz> Also, I used bukkit.
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#2467 [19:03] <xales> that's the problem, when
#2468 [19:03] <xales> then*
#2469 [19:03] <xales> you can't change server-ip
#2470 [19:03] <xales> it must be blank
#2471 [19:04] <Ownerthugz> oh..
#2472 [19:04] <Ownerthugz> fail >_>
#2473 [19:04] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Hello. I am running a server on linux and when I connect from a different windows machine, on my LAN, I seem to be able to dig but have great difficulty interacting with mobs, additionally, when I connect I seem to 'fall' and see underground, briefly. Any suggestions?
#2474 [19:05] <xales> lyall: what are the specs of the server?
#2475 [19:05] <xales> it sounds like the CPU may be too slow
#2476 [19:05] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Linux lyalls-pc 2.6.35-gentoo-r12 #6 SMP PREEMPT Tue Mar 1 22:33:23 CST 2011 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9400 @ 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
#2477 [19:05] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :3G memory
#2478 [19:05] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I allocate 1G to the server
#2479 [19:06] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp : -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M
#2480 [19:06] <xales> That might just be normal behavior...
#2481 [19:06] <xales> there are some mob bugs
#2482 [19:06] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :For example, I walk up to a sheep and try hit it, to no effect
#2483 [19:06] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :but I can dig, immediately
#2484 [19:06] <xales> any mods?
#2485 [19:06] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :none
#2486 [19:07] <xales> ask Kealper, I guess
#2487 [19:07] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I do periodically do a 'save'
#2488 [19:07] <xales> I have no idea and gotta go eat anyway
#2489 [19:07] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Kealper?
#2490 [19:07] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :(new to this chat)
#2491 [19:07] <Kealper> rawr
#2492 [19:07] <Kealper> gah, one sec
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#2494 [19:08] <Kealper> ok then
#2495 [19:08] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :The console of the server is not showing much.
#2496 [19:08] <Kealper> lyall: is there any delay when you type chat messages into the game?
#2497 [19:09] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I will need to establish a second client, gimme a sec... (and how do you chat in minecraft anyway?)
#2498 [19:09] <Kealper> no, you don't need a second client
#2499 [19:09] <Kealper> chat messages will not show up in your own chat (even if you send them) until the server has processed it
#2500 [19:10] <Kealper> so just type like....asdf or something to see how much time it takes to display the message
#2501 [19:10] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Ok, chat appears in server log immediately
#2502 [19:10] <Kealper> not server log, ingame
#2503 [19:10] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :(I found the T key :-) )
#2504 [19:11] <Kealper> does it show up that you said it ingame just as fast?
#2505 [19:11] <Kealper> or does it take a while to show that you said it?
#2506 [19:11] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :No, chat is not showing up immediately in game
#2507 [19:11] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :in fact, it seems to being lost most of the time
#2508 [19:12] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I see the server log entries but no in game
#2509 [19:12] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :firewall?
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#2511 [19:12] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :on client?
#2512 [19:12] <Kealper> that is severe lack of CPU time then on the server's part
#2513 [19:12] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :(no firewall on server pc)
#2514 [19:12] <Ownerthugz> kealper
#2515 [19:12] <thomast> i cant connect to my friends multipplayer server any more y
#2516 [19:12] <Ownerthugz> he still can't get on my server :/
#2517 [19:12] <Kealper> are you skilled in the art of linux?
#2518 [19:12] <Ownerthugz> :(
#2519 [19:12] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: what ip did you forward the port to in your router?
#2520 [19:13] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Only using 10% of one cpu showing in top
#2521 [19:13] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ah, chat messages have arrived...
#2522 [19:13] <Ownerthugz> It needs to be internal, right?
#2523 [19:13] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Linux, sure am
#2524 [19:13] <Ownerthugz> I'll check when I can get access to the router.
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#2526 [19:13] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :It's a gentoo distro, if that means anything
#2527 [19:13] <Ownerthugz> thanks.
#2528 [19:13] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: you didn't put 127.0.0.1 in there, did you?
#2529 [19:13] <Ownerthugz> i dontthink so.
#2530 [19:14] <Ownerthugz> do I need to?
#2531 [19:14] <Kealper> lyall: try setting the process priority of java higher? i'm not sure why it would lag that bad :/
#2532 [19:14] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: no, that would be bad lol
#2533 [19:14] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :The minecraft is running on the LAN, it's not connecting from the net.
#2534 [19:14] <Ownerthugz> okay
#2535 [19:14] <Ownerthugz> okay?
#2536 [19:14] <Ownerthugz> so internal or external
#2537 [19:14] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I will try connecting by IP rather than hostname... gimme a sec
#2538 [19:14] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: it should start with 172.16, 10.0, or 192.168
#2539 [19:14] <Ownerthugz> internal :D
#2540 [19:14] <Chr|s> is 10mbps alright for minecraft server speed?
#2541 [19:14] <Chr|s> trying to find cheap host ;)
#2542 [19:15] <Kealper> Chr|s: 10mbit would work if you just wanted to run a small server for friends
#2543 [19:15] <thomast> how come i could connect to my frineds server before but now i cant
#2544 [19:15] <Chr|s> Kealper: k, thats exactly what I wanted to do
#2545 [19:15] <Kealper> thomast: is his server running?
#2546 [19:15] <thomast> yea
#2547 [19:15] <Kealper> thomast: are you sure his IP didn't change?
#2548 [19:16] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Kealper: ok, connected by IP, rather than hostname, 1GB LAN, spent a lot of time watching mobs fall to oblivion before the map showed
#2549 [19:16] <thomast> yea
#2550 [19:16] <Kealper> Chr|s: yeah, it should do up to 10 friends just fine, it might even do more than that
#2551 [19:16] <Kealper> thomast: are you sure his internal ip didn't change and mess up the forwarding in his router?
#2552 [19:16] <Chr|s> Kealper: awesome
#2553 [19:16] <thomast> idk ill check later thx
#2554 [19:17] <Ownerthugz> kealper
#2555 [19:17] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :kealper: ah, might be the client CPU is underpowered. CPU is flatlined.
#2556 [19:17] <Ownerthugz> My dad gets home soon, so I can check then :)
#2557 [19:17] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: ok
#2558 [19:17] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :kealper: will boot up a different laptop to see if the same symptoms apply
#2559 [19:17] <Kealper> lyall: hmm....what is the client system's specs?
#2560 [19:17] <Kealper> lyall: actually, i could test it from here if you wanted me to check :/
#2561 [19:18] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :kealper: winxp pro, AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (2.21 ghz), 1.5G of ram
#2562 [19:18] <Kealper> or not....you're on ipv6...lol
#2563 [19:18] <CelesteA> RAWR
#2564 [19:18] <Kealper> :o
#2565 [19:18] <CelesteA> :o
#2566 [19:18] <VoxelHead> Wtf.
#2567 [19:18] <Kealper> that's my word!
#2568 [19:18] <VoxelHead> egad!
#2569 [19:18] <CelesteA> NOU
#2570 [19:18] <CelesteA> mine :2
#2571 [19:19] <Kealper> i've been saying it longer, now get off my lawn :P
#2572 [19:19] <CelesteA> lmao
#2573 [19:19] <CelesteA> pshhh
#2574 [19:19] <CelesteA> <3 rawr <3
#2575 [19:19] <Kealper> ^~,..,~^ rawr
#2576 [19:19] <CelesteA> :o
#2577 [19:19] <VoxelHead> pounding pulsars!
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#2579 [19:19] <CelesteA> w00t
#2580 [19:19] <CelesteA> we can share it then
#2581 [19:20] <Kealper> lol
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#2583 [19:25] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :kealper: ok, booted up a laptop, winxp pro, 3G memory, Intel core 2 T5600 (1.8ghz), CPU 90% in game, with both cores bouncing in the mid 90%
#2584 [19:25] <Kealper> lag?
#2585 [19:25] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :So, it seems the desktop pc is underpowered to play minecraft
#2586 [19:25] <Kealper> :/
#2587 [19:26] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :kealper: none
#2588 [19:26] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :on the laptop
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#2590 [19:26] <Kealper> set process priority of javaw.exe to Above Normal on your desktop
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#2592 [19:32] <ThomasCa001> hello?
#2593 [19:33] <ThomasCa001> Can people read this?
#2594 [19:33] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :kealper: Process priority raised, view distance lowered, in fact, all video options set to lowest setting, still flatline CPU and minute+ response to chat
#2595 [19:33] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ThomasCa001: yes
#2596 [19:33] <ThomasCa001> aha cool
#2597 [19:33] <ThomasCa001> ok i have a question for people.
#2598 [19:33] <ThomasCa001> is there a way to check if another user is premium?
#2599 [19:33] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :kealper: might try re-downloading client...
#2600 [19:33] <Kealper> lyall: sounds like it might be the random lag issue for no reason that came with beta 1.3 that happens on some computers ;/
#2601 [19:34] <Kealper> on a side-note: that lag bug has no known fix
#2602 [19:34] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Thomasca001: simply try logging into the game
#2603 [19:34] <Kealper> !check Kealper
#2604 [19:34] <Kealper> whoops
#2605 [19:34] <Kealper> wrong command
#2606 [19:34] <ThomasCa001> with that persons name?
#2607 [19:34] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2608 [19:34] <Kealper> or not
#2609 [19:34] <Kealper> guess that is still broke
#2610 [19:35] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :!paid lyallp
#2611 [19:35] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp ::-)
#2612 [19:35] <VoxelHead> =D
#2613 [19:35] <Kealper> hmm.....yeah, definately broke
#2614 [19:35] <Kealper> !enable
#2615 [19:35] <Kealper> definately broke .->
#2616 [19:36] <Kealper> ._.*
#2617 [19:36] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :actually, I have paid, I thought it was a way to check :-)
#2618 [19:36] <ThomasCa001> I'm sorry I am still unclear
#2619 [19:36] <Kealper> i figured, but the command itself does not work when minecraft.net has issues like it has been having lately :/
#2620 [19:36] <ThomasCa001> I should try and log into minecraft.net with their username?
#2621 [19:37] <Kealper> is it your account or do you have the password?
#2622 [19:37] <ThomasCa001> I want to check if someone else has premium access
#2623 [19:37] <Kealper> hmm....1 sec
#2624 [19:37] <Kealper> what is their username?
#2625 [19:37] <ThomasCa001> This relates to whitelisting people on a server
#2626 [19:37] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Thomasca001: I think that if you can download, you have premium
#2627 [19:37] <ThomasCa001> Istorn
#2628 [19:38] <Kealper> has not paid
#2629 [19:38] <ThomasCa001> I know I am premium that is not an issue
#2630 [19:38] <ThomasCa001> ok how do you easily check?
#2631 [19:38] <Kealper> i did that using the same url the server software checks :/
#2632 [19:38] <Kealper> but normally you can check using AuBot in here
#2633 [19:39] <ThomasCa001> Aubot?
#2634 [19:39] <ThomasCa001> what is that
#2635 [19:39] <Kealper> the channel helper robot
#2636 [19:39] <ThomasCa001> ok how would i normally go about checking aubot?
#2637 [19:40] <Kealper> normally you just type !paid username, where username is the name you want to check, but i have to do something really quick to it
#2638 [19:40] <aetherian> oh
#2639 [19:40] <Kealper> it seems minecraft.net has changed a bit and it broke AuBot, so give me a sec to update it :/
#2640 [19:40] <aetherian> you fixed it?
#2641 [19:40] <ThomasCa001> ok, thank you for your help
#2642 [19:41] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2643 [19:41] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2644 [19:41] <Kealper> !paid asdfagasdfasdf
#2645 [19:41] <ThomasCa001> !ThomasCa
#2646 [19:41] <Kealper> ok, fixed
#2647 [19:41] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :!paid lyallp
#2648 [19:42] <Kealper> it hates you, lyall :P
#2649 [19:42] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :LOL
#2650 [19:42] <ThomasCa001> !Istorn
#2651 [19:42] <Kealper> ThomasCa001: !paid username
#2652 [19:42] <ThomasCa001> hmmm im i doing it wrong?
#2653 [19:42] <ThomasCa001> oh
#2654 [19:42] <Kealper> !paid ThomasCa
#2655 [19:42] <ThomasCa001> lol
#2656 [19:42] * ThomasCa001 is a muppet
#2656 [19:42] <ThomasCa001> !paid ThomasCa
#2657 [19:42] <Kealper> trust me, we've seen much worse bot fail than that lol
#2658 [19:43] <ThomasCa001> !paid Istorn
#2659 [19:43] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :!paid jaxonp
#2660 [19:43] <ThomasCa001> ok this is a really helpful piece of information
#2661 [19:43] <Kealper> why on earth is it ignoring you....
#2662 [19:43] <Kealper> !listignores
#2663 [19:43] <ThomasCa001> I couldnt find how to do this anywhere on google
#2664 [19:43] <Kealper> hmm...
#2665 [19:43] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :!paid lyallp
#2666 [19:43] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :nobody loves me...
#2667 [19:43] <Kealper> !paid lyallp
#2668 [19:44] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :yeahhhh
#2669 [19:44] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :alpha man!
#2670 [19:44] <Kealper> lyall: try PMing it that command instead of using the channel, see if it responds :/
#2671 [19:45] <aetherian> it does
#2672 [19:45] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :how do I direct chat? Not an expert at this.
#2673 [19:45] <aetherian> you mean pm?
#2674 [19:45] <Kealper> /msg AuBot !paid lyallp
#2675 [19:45] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ta
#2676 [19:45] <aetherian> or say /query (enter)
#2677 [19:45] <aetherian> on some client at least
#2678 [19:45] <Kealper> aha!
#2679 [19:45] <aetherian> rather
#2680 [19:45] <Kealper> found it!
#2681 [19:45] <aetherian> /query nick
#2682 [19:46] <aetherian> found wot
#2683 [19:46] <Kealper> it's because you are using IPv6, it's messing up it's parsing
#2684 [19:46] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I am using Chatzilla (on linux), maybe there is a newline in there causing grief?
#2685 [19:46] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ahhhh
#2686 [19:46] <Kealper> ghetto code is ghetto
#2687 [19:47] <aetherian> hehe Kealper
#2688 [19:47] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :well, it is disappointing that Minecraft won't play multiplayer on a lower powered machine
#2689 [19:47] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :It seems to play fine in single player
#2690 [19:47] <aetherian> lyall: lucky.
#2691 [19:47] <aetherian> you have v6 ;_;
#2692 [19:47] <Kealper> the machine should be able to play it, i think it might be unplayable due to a bug that happened in the 1.3 update
#2693 [19:48] <Kealper> aetherian: it's a 2001: too, i believe that is a legit v6 address, not a tunneled one
#2694 [19:48] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :lucky? I had to pay $400 for a router (fritzbox 7390) and internode (australia) has an IPv6 trial. Seems to work well
#2695 [19:48] <aetherian> lyall: yes lucky
#2696 [19:48] <aetherian> you got it at all
#2697 [19:48] <aetherian> oh man oh man
#2698 [19:49] <aetherian> that'd be awesome if you chould choose your ip for ipv6 :3
#2699 [19:49] <Kealper> lol
#2700 [19:49] <Kealper> shit
#2701 [19:49] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :well, I think the bottom half is based on the mac address...
#2702 [19:50] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :can't say I am an expert on all things ipv6
#2703 [19:50] <Kealper> that means if i got a v6 address for irc, i'd have to rewrite EVERY PART OF AUBOT'S PACKET PARSING...FFFFFUUUUUUU
#2704 [19:50] <aetherian> of course
#2705 [19:50] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :LOL
#2706 [19:50] <aetherian> you can always spoof your macaddress
#2707 [19:50] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :See, I have helped you realise you are not ready for IPv6 day, in June this year!
#2708 [19:50] <aetherian> Kealper: release the code then :D
#2709 [19:51] <aetherian> ... :D
#2710 [19:51] <aetherian> come on, don't leave me hanging here
#2711 [19:51] <Kealper> when i made the original parts of AuBot years ago.... v6 was still one of those "woh, so futuristic, i'll never need to handle that!" things....so i just did the parsing for packets the easy way, instead of the right way :/
#2712 [19:51] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Interesting effect, on the 'slow' desktop, internal exception, java.net.socketexecption connection reset
#2713 [19:51] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :on server, disconnect.overflow
#2714 [19:52] <Kealper> lyall: definately that bug i said then, because that bug is in the netcode of the game
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#2716 [19:52] <ThomasCa001> Hi, im signing off for the night. Just want to say a big thank you to everybody for the help. Best Regards ThomasCa.
#2717 [19:52] <Jerub> Kealper: aubot parses packets? you don't use the socket layer?
#2718 [19:53] <Jerub> or you actually pass around dot quadded ips in the data?
#2719 [19:53] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :It would seem the bug is timing related, although I am surprised that minecraft requires so much CPU for such a graphically simple game.
#2720 [19:53] <Kealper> Jerub: well, parses the irc-related parts
#2721 [19:54] <aetherian> I'm surprised there's no irc bot, like, "make an irc bot" where you tell it what to respond to certain things
#2722 [19:54] <Jerub> Kealper: there's no addresses in that layer.
#2723 [19:54] <aetherian> you'd think it wouldn't be too hard on one level
#2724 [19:54] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Actually, it's interesting, even in the opening screen where I select single/multi, the CPU is flatlined.
#2725 [19:54] <Kealper> Jerub: the way i'm doing it, it looks for the first : to signal the start of the hostname, then looks for the second : to signal the start of the message...since an IPv6 address is chocked full of :, it kills it
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#2727 [19:55] <Jerub> provided you use getaddrinfo correctly and pass the af_family from the getaddrinfo to the socket creation, and the sockaddr struct directly to the connect, it doesn't matter if ipv10 comes out, you'll support it.
#2728 [19:55] <Kealper> IPv4 has no issues with that, because it uses .
#2729 [19:55] <aetherian> yay IPv6, it kills bots :D
#2730 [19:55] <aetherian> yeah uh
#2731 [19:55] <Jerub> oooh, that stuff.
#2732 [19:55] <aetherian> what happened to IPv5
#2733 [19:55] <Jerub> isn't that whitespace delimited?
#2734 [19:55] <Jerub> aetherian: stillbirth. mum doesn't like to talk about it.
#2735 [19:55] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :ah, restarting the game stops the flatline on main menu - obviously some runaway thread after a failure.
#2736 [19:55] <Kealper> Jerub: as i said, the underlying code in AuBot for that stuff is very bad and old, and was made years ago when i sucked at life :P
#2737 [19:56] <Dweezel> is anyone having an issue with minecraft where moving the mouse makes it go crazy?
#2738 [19:56] <Jerub> ;)
#2739 [19:56] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2740 [19:56] <Kealper> and it's become so engrained that it would be a nightmare to rewrite
#2741 [19:56] <aetherian> Kealper: years ago when you sucked at life?
#2742 [19:56] <Jerub> does this irc network support ipv6 yet?
#2743 [19:56] <Kealper> yes
#2744 [19:56] <aetherian> ...
#2745 [19:56] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I guess I am proof of that! (ipv6)
#2746 [19:56] <Kealper> optical.esper.net is for IPv6 clients
#2747 [19:56] <aetherian> you missed the unoriginal insult, but whatever
#2748 [19:56] <Kealper> aetherian: i seen it, it was just so unoriginal that i ignored it >:D
#2749 [19:57] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I noticed, that 'Select World' screen is flatlining CPU too, with no worlds to select, only the 'create new world' button enabled.
#2750 [19:57] <aetherian> "I sucked at life, then I found IRC, and now I have a life"
#2751 [19:57] <aetherian> :D
#2752 [19:57] <Kealper> i meant sucked at life for programming
#2753 [19:58] <aetherian> so you mean "when I sucked at programming"?
#2754 [19:58] <Kealper> what if that *is* my life >.>
#2755 [19:58] <aetherian> well that's a given
#2756 [19:58] <aetherian> so may as well be clear
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#2759 [19:59] <aetherian> yeah...
#2760 [19:59] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Hmmm. Even single player flatlines and continues to flatline after exiting the world back to mainmenu. Maybe a java reinstall...
#2761 [19:59] * aetherian is attempting to teach himself python right now
#2761 [20:00] <aetherian> :)
#2762 [20:00] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2763 [20:00] <bacon> :/
#2764 [20:00] <aetherian> shut up voxelhead
#2765 [20:00] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#2765 [20:00] <Kealper> aetherian: how much python do you know? i've got a SUUUUPER simple chat protocol that i made that can help you learn basic sockets and string parsing :P
#2766 [20:00] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#2767 [20:00] <Dweezel> does anyone know who i need to contact to get a refund for minecraft?
#2768 [20:00] <aetherian> Kealper: nearly nothing
#2769 [20:01] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Yeah, it requires you to learn about ipv6 though... :-)
#2770 [20:01] <aetherian> think started a couple days ago but have been really busy :)
#2771 [20:01] <Jerub> #python on freenode is helpful.
#2772 [20:01] <aetherian> I'm on freenode right now...
#2773 [20:01] <Kealper> dopeghoti is a python ninja, there is also #coders on this network
#2774 [20:01] <aetherian> oh crap I can't go there :|
#2775 [20:01] <aetherian> #python that is
#2776 [20:02] <aetherian> :)
#2777 [20:02] <Jerub> why's that?
#2778 [20:02] <aetherian> a rule that's served me well
#2779 [20:02] <aetherian> that channel's too big
#2780 [20:03] <Kealper> wut?
#2781 [20:03] <aetherian> what
#2782 [20:03] <aetherian> it's got like 806 members
#2783 [20:03] <Kealper> how does a channel that is too big make you unable to go there?
#2784 [20:03] <aetherian> nonono
#2785 [20:03] <Jerub> that's an interesting rule.
#2786 [20:03] * aetherian facepalms
#2786 [20:04] <Jerub> i mean, it probably makes a lot of sense for places like #ubuntu
#2787 [20:04] <Kealper> well that's what you said lol
#2788 [20:04] * Kealper shudders
#2788 [20:04] <Kealper> #ubuntu :<
#2789 [20:04] <aetherian> Kealper: #lubuntu for the win :D
#2790 [20:04] <aetherian> but yeah
#2791 [20:04] <aetherian> I avoid big channels
#2792 [20:04] <Jerub> Kealper: i think he means that if a channel's too large, it's too noisy and distracting and he has a rule that he won't attend one that size.
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#2794 [20:05] <aetherian> something like that
#2795 [20:05] <aetherian> hey Drakora
#2796 [20:05] <Kealper> well, that would make sense then lol
#2797 [20:05] <Drakora> Hi. Im trying to play Clasic but it wont worked logged in
#2798 [20:06] <aetherian> wat
#2799 [20:06] <Drakora> Any ideas what the problem could be?
#2800 [20:06] <aetherian> uh
#2801 [20:06] <Drakora> Is there a way to download clasic?
#2802 [20:06] <aetherian> I'm steaming with idea
#2803 [20:06] <aetherian> you gave plenty of information
#2804 [20:06] <Kealper> Drakora: unfortunately not :/
#2805 [20:07] <aetherian> in a nicely worded manner
#2806 [20:08] <Kealper> ok aetherian....want to see a simple python bot for kChat? this joins and sits in the chat lol
#2807 [20:08] <aetherian> uh
#2808 [20:08] <aetherian> (because I know all about kchat)
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#2810 [20:09] <Drakora> Has Classic been taken down or something? I swore I saw it load before I logged in. It's my first time playing so I don't know what's up
#2811 [20:10] <Kealper> kChat is a chat i made pretty much for the sole purpose of letting people understand the basics of sockets without the worry of screwing something up or figuring out how to make the chat server work right
#2812 [20:10] <aetherian> :O
#2813 [20:10] <VoxelHead> well slap my ass and call me VoxelHead
#2814 [20:10] <aetherian> why KDE?
#2815 [20:10] <aetherian> oh
#2816 [20:11] <aetherian> it's something else
#2817 [20:11] <aetherian> wait
#2818 [20:11] <Kealper> Drakora: Mollstam said something about disabling classic for a short while to help reduce the load on minecraft.net, if it is not back up already, it will be soon
#2819 [20:11] * aetherian confused
#2819 [20:11] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Ok, I give up - re-installed java, and still suffering the 1 minute + interaction lag - chopping a tree down suddenly re-appeared, chat messages appeared a couple of minutes late then the tree trunk disappeared (finally). Pity, this computer can play WoW just fine.
#2820 [20:11] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :woot, picked up some wood, 2 minutes after chopping down tree :-)
#2821 [20:11] <aetherian> lyall: I could have told you why this happens
#2822 [20:11] <VoxelHead> Thank you... i love you.
#2823 [20:12] <aetherian> your internet isn't good enough
#2824 [20:12] <aetherian> and I love you too, VoxelHead
#2825 [20:12] <Kealper> aetherian: niet
#2826 [20:12] <aetherian> Kealper: orly?
#2827 [20:12] <aetherian> whenever it happens to me, it's always my routers fault
#2828 [20:12] <aetherian> and that's nyet, I thought. though there's probably something where niet is also good
#2829 [20:13] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I am on the LAN, direct connect 1G. My ADSL Connection is at 15Mb/s, sometimes as high as 19Mb/s cos I am around 500m from the exchange.
#2830 [20:13] <Kealper> lyall: that issue can't be fixed, it was a bug that happened when beta version 1.3 came out...no idea what causes it, or how to fix it, but it happens...so it should be fixed in 1.4
#2831 [20:13] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :looking forward to 1.4 - releases are a long time apart aren't they ?
#2832 [20:14] <Kealper> Jeb has been toying around with people saying this month for the 1.4 release
#2833 [20:14] <Kealper> so, we could see it next week
#2834 [20:14] <Kealper> *could*
#2835 [20:14] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :oooo
#2836 [20:14] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :are there any release notes lying around to give hints as to what's changed?
#2837 [20:15] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :I did see on the blog about tamable wolves...
#2838 [20:15] <Kealper> not official ones, but there will be wolves that you can train (and they help attack stuff for you. pets basically) and i guess loads of bugfixes in the code that works behind the scenes...so probably just general bugs like the one you have
#2839 [20:16] <Kealper> i think i've heard about other stuff that should be added, but i don't remember what
#2840 [20:16] <aetherian> I wish wolves were never added
#2841 [20:16] <aetherian> it's ruining the soliditariness of it all
#2842 [20:16] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :why so?
#2843 [20:16] <aetherian> for one thing
#2844 [20:16] <Kealper> aetherian: so kill them when you see them instead of taming them?
#2845 [20:17] <aetherian> Kealper: but now on smp servers, everyone will likely have them
#2846 [20:17] <aetherian> it's not easily reversible
#2847 [20:17] <Kealper> aetherian: meh
#2848 [20:17] <aetherian> >:|
#2849 [20:17] <lyall> 44b8:740a:5c40:223:54ff:fe4c:d429 PRIVMSG #MineCraftHelp :Didn't notch say that they could go, nothing is set in stone?
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#2851 [20:18] <Kealper> lyall: wolves will be for sure in the game, he's promised a "special someone" (most likely ez) that there would be wolf pets
#2852 [20:18] <aetherian> so uh
#2853 [20:18] <aetherian> what was that kchat thing
#2854 [20:18] <Kealper> and ez = Notch's fiance
#2855 [20:19] <Kealper> aetherian: imagine irc, but designed to be VERY simple to make chat clients for
#2856 [20:19] <aetherian> is there a wobsite about it?
#2857 [20:19] <[z]> wobsite
#2858 [20:19] <Kealper> no, it is just something i threw together
#2859 [20:19] <Kealper> wubsite?
#2860 [20:20] <aetherian> wibbity wobbity woobsite
#2861 [20:20] <VoxelHead> So... about my sandwich...
#2862 [20:20] <aetherian> so kealper
#2863 [20:20] <Kealper> wubwubwubsite
#2864 [20:20] <aetherian> if people can't really know stuff about it
#2865 [20:20] <aetherian> then uh
#2866 [20:20] <aetherian> how can they write clients for it
#2867 [20:20] <Kealper> i've written a spec sheet on it's protocol
#2868 [20:21] <aetherian> ah
#2869 [20:21] <aetherian> uh
#2870 [20:21] <Kealper> and it's not meant for the general public, it's meant for people who i can trust not to spam the server, since my mc server's population uses it to chat
#2871 [20:21] <Kealper> remember that chat bridge that i had on my mc server?
#2872 [20:21] <Kealper> it was linked with that kchat server
#2873 [20:21] <aetherian> oh
#2874 [20:22] <aetherian> I thought it was something like that
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#2876 [20:22] <aetherian> but yeah
#2877 [20:22] <aetherian> wouldn't want to interrupt your grand population :)
#2878 [20:22] * oldtopmanserver ducks behind bedrock
#2878 [20:24] <aetherian> uhh
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#2881 [20:24] <aetherian> both times
#2882 [20:24] <aetherian> both times!
#2883 [20:24] <Kealper> wut
#2884 [20:25] <aetherian> here and mcchatter, it happens just as I'm going to say something
#2885 [20:25] <Kealper> XD
#2886 [20:25] <oldtopmanserver> Kealper: can you kick me like that too?
#2887 [20:25] <Kealper> it wouldn't do anything but kick you :/
#2888 [20:25] <aetherian> brb
#2889 [20:25] <oldtopmanserver> :(
#2890 [20:25] <aetherian> ehh
#2891 [20:25] <aetherian> dinnertime. be somewhat right back
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#2893 [20:27] <Kealper> aetherian: and remember! with not so great power comes very little responsibility! (but moreso than without VOP!)
#2894 [20:28] <Kealper> :P
#2895 [20:30] * Kealper goes afk for a bit
#2895 [20:30] <OCTGNor> Hi, I am new to this game. What should I do first? any noob servers?
#2896 [20:30] <Kealper> be back in a few min
#2897 [20:30] <Kealper> !tutorial
#2898 [20:31] <Kealper> i also recommend checking out more of that guy's minecraft videos, they are quite helpful
#2899 [20:31] <OCTGNor> thanks
#2900 [20:31] <OCTGNor> !tutorial
#2901 [20:31] <Kealper> anywho, back in a few min
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#2904 [20:36] <aetherian> uh
#2905 [20:36] <aetherian> what power
#2906 [20:38] <aetherian> and I probably bothced that up :)
#2907 [20:38] <aetherian> *botched
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#2917 [20:43] <Ownerthugz> hi
#2918 [20:43] <Ownerthugz> kealper
#2919 [20:44] <Ownerthugz> ..
#2920 [20:44] <aetherian> done with testing
#2921 [20:44] <Ownerthugz> kealper
#2922 [20:44] <aetherian> xales was wrong :)
#2923 [20:45] <aetherian> what do you need, owner?
#2924 [20:45] <Ownerthugz> is kealper afk or something?
#2925 [20:46] <Ownerthugz> He asked me if i forwarded the port to the right ip
#2926 [20:46] <Ownerthugz> for a server
#2927 [20:46] <Ownerthugz> I did, but my friends still can't connect.
#2928 [20:47] <xales> he will be back soon, just wait a minute
#2929 [20:47] <Ownerthugz> okay.
#2930 [20:48] <Kealper> rawr
#2931 [20:48] <Kealper> that took longer than i thought it would
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#2933 [20:49] <rawkjawk> hi
#2934 [20:50] <rawkjawk> i was wondering if anyone would be able to help me with something that i think should be relatively simple
#2935 [20:50] <aetherian> Kealper: upgrading RAM?
#2936 [20:50] <aetherian> rawkjawk: what?
#2937 [20:50] <Kealper> aetherian: yeah you got it right, and join a random client here and type /msg chanserv kick #minecrafthelp someuser
#2938 [20:50] <Kealper> and no, i was helping someone with something
#2939 [20:50] <aetherian> and uh
#2940 [20:50] <aetherian> I tried that in a sandbox channel
#2941 [20:50] <aetherian> but I'll try it here
#2942 [20:50] <rawkjawk> im trying to figure out how to build a triangular roof
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#2944 [20:51] <Kealper> it has to be in here, chanserv has specific settings enabled to allow people on the VOP list to do that
#2945 [20:51] <rawkjawk> and im not finding any videos or anything
#2946 [20:51] <Ownerthugz> kealper, can you help me when I'm back
#2947 [20:51] <Ownerthugz> I'll be back in a few secs.
#2948 [20:51] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: ok
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#2950 [20:51] <aetherian> creepy
#2951 [20:52] <Ownerthugz> Back
#2952 [20:52] <aetherian> welcome back
#2953 [20:52] <Kealper> you can also voice people through chanserv in here, too...but it's just a normal voice, they won't have any powers and it will go away if they leave the channel
#2954 [20:52] <Ownerthugz> okay, so it's set to 192.188
#2955 [20:52] <aetherian> so voice ~= hop, here?
#2956 [20:52] <Ownerthugz> the portforward
#2957 [20:53] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: what was the exact IP you set it to?
#2958 [20:53] <Ownerthugz> 192.188.0.212
#2959 [20:53] <Kealper> aetherian: sort of
#2960 [20:53] <Kealper> are you sure you didn't read that ip wrong?
#2961 [20:53] <Kealper> it should be 192.168.0.212
#2962 [20:54] <Ownerthugz> my IPv4 address is 192.188.0.212
#2963 [20:54] <Ownerthugz> isn't that the internal ip?
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#2965 [20:54] <Ownerthugz> by the way, I have a DLink router
#2966 [20:54] <Kealper> that's....odd..and goes against all standards :/
#2967 [20:54] <Ownerthugz> what's wrong with it?
#2968 [20:55] <Kealper> 192.188 is not allocated for LAN use
#2969 [20:55] <Kealper> 192.168 is....
#2970 [20:55] <xales> Kealper
#2971 [20:55] <xales> methinks weird setup
#2972 [20:55] <xales> like ISP NAT at the residential gateway
#2973 [20:55] <Kealper> could be....
#2974 [20:55] <xales> or school/business
#2975 [20:55] <Ownerthugz> is there any way I can fix it?
#2976 [20:55] <Kealper> Ownerthugz: might just be some sysadmin needs to be punched in the face...
#2977 [20:56] <Ownerthugz> Lol.
#2978 [20:56] <Ownerthugz> But is there any way to fix it?
#2979 [20:56] <Kealper> well...if you are positive that is your internal address, and you have that forwarded in your router for port 25565 on TCP, and you have no firewalls...it should work
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#2981 [20:57] <Kealper> and that you have server-ip in server.properties blank
#2982 [20:57] <Kealper> what external ip are you giving your friend?
#2983 [20:57] <Kealper> !check S01060012f09422f6.fm.shawcable.net
#2984 [20:58] <Ownerthugz> 24.65.85.219
#2985 [20:58] <aetherian> brb, ima be going down for a bit
#2986 [20:58] <Kealper> hmmm...
#2987 [20:58] <Ownerthugz> Yes.
#2988 [20:58] <Ownerthugz> I forwarded the port for 'both'
#2989 [20:59] <Kealper> hmm....
#2990 [20:59] <Kealper> i do not believe Shaw blocks minecraft servers....
#2991 [21:00] <Kealper> you can access your server by using your internal ip?
#2992 [21:00] <Ownerthugz> yes.
#2993 [21:01] <Kealper> is your modem and your router separate or are they the same thing?
#2994 [21:02] <Ownerthugz> err
#2995 [21:02] <Ownerthugz> brb
#2996 [21:02] <Ownerthugz> seperate
#2997 [21:03] <Kealper> is anyone else using your internet right now? lol
#2998 [21:03] <Ownerthugz> no
#2999 [21:04] <oldtopmanserver> I am.
#3000 [21:04] <Kealper> plug your computer directly into the modem, if your internet still works after that...try having him connect then (your IP may change when doing this)
#3001 [21:05] <Kealper> if it works, then something is not forwarded right in your router...if it doesn't work, something is either blocking it on your computer, or your ISP does not allow you to run a minecraft server
#3002 [21:05] <Ownerthugz> okay :/
#3003 [21:05] <Ownerthugz> thanks.
#3004 [21:06] <Kealper> also...don't forget to set everything back up like it was after this test lol
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#3006 [21:08] <Ownerthugz> okay :P
#3007 [21:09] <Ownerthugz> ill get someone to help
#3008 [21:09] <Ownerthugz> dont want to screw up the whole internet xD
#3009 [21:09] <Kealper> that'd be bad lol
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#3011 [21:09] <Ownerthugz> yup lol
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#3014 [21:18] <aetherian> back
#3015 [21:18] <Kealper> wb
#3016 [21:18] <aetherian> if I take my wlan0 down, I can't put it back up :|
#3017 [21:18] <aetherian> the thing nigh on freezes
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#3019 [21:20] <aetherian> heh pc
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#3022 [21:30] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
#3023 [21:34] <bacon> :< Voxel
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#3025 [21:37] <pepper> how do i set up a server for smp
#3026 [21:37] <aetherian> pepper
#3027 [21:37] <pepper> yea
#3028 [21:37] <aetherian> heres a quick guide
#3029 [21:37] <aetherian> 1. get the software, run the software
#3030 [21:37] <aetherian> 2. exit the software
#3031 [21:37] <aetherian> 3. portforward
#3032 [21:37] <aetherian> 4. run the software again
#3033 [21:37] <aetherian> 5. profit
#3034 [21:38] <pepper> ok what software
#3035 [21:38] <aetherian> !server
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#3037 [21:38] <pepper> thanks
#3038 [21:39] <aetherian> inb4howdoIportforward
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#3040 [21:40] <pepper> so what ip do i type in to connect
#3041 [21:40] <aetherian> 127.0.0.1, yourself
#3042 [21:40] <pepper> ok
#3043 [21:41] <aetherian> but your external ip (76.111.12.14) for all others
#3044 [21:41] <aetherian> except those on the same LAN as you
#3045 [21:41] <aetherian> in which you'd have to find your local ip
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#3047 [21:42] <pepper> thanks again
#3048 [21:42] <aetherian> but you need to portforward in order for people to connect from outside your LAN
#3049 [21:43] <oldtopman> To get your ip (for the people on your local LAN) type ipconfig inside of a run prompt
#3050 [21:43] <pepper> portforward?
#3051 [21:43] <oldtopman> aetherian: You saw it
#3052 [21:43] <aetherian> I saw what
#3053 [21:43] <aetherian> pepper: yes portforward
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#3055 [21:43] <aetherian> the act of forwarding a port
#3056 [21:44] <aetherian> do you need help with that?
#3057 [21:44] <pepper> yea
#3058 [21:44] <aetherian> open up a command prompt
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#3060 [21:44] <aetherian> assuming you have windows vista/7, open the start menu and type cmd
#3061 [21:45] <pepper> ok
#3062 [21:45] <aetherian> type "ipconfig"
#3063 [21:45] <aetherian> (enter)
#3064 [21:45] <pepper> yes
#3065 [21:45] <aetherian> find where it says your default gateway
#3066 [21:45] <pepper> ok
#3067 [21:45] <aetherian> open up your favorite web browser, and put that in as the url
#3068 [21:47] <pepper> nothing
#3069 [21:47] <aetherian> try the other default gateway
#3070 [21:47] <aetherian> there should be a couple
#3071 [21:48] <aetherian> ...hello?
#3072 [21:49] <pepper> there is only 1 default gateway for mine...
#3073 [21:49] <aetherian> and you compied it verbatim?
#3074 [21:49] <aetherian> *copied
#3075 [21:49] <pepper> ipconfig
#3076 [21:49] <aetherian> eh?
#3077 [21:50] <pepper> theres like a ethernet one a witeless one and a couple tunnel adapter ones
#3078 [21:50] <pepper> wireless*
#3079 [21:50] <aetherian> the wireless one should work
#3080 [21:50] <aetherian> assuming you are on wireless
#3081 [21:50] <pepper> yes
#3082 [21:51] <aetherian> have you checked to make sure it was copied correctly?
#3083 [21:51] <VoxelHead> more fun tha bucket of furor
#3084 [21:52] <pepper> si senor
#3085 [21:52] <aetherian> is there one that looks like a url
#3086 [21:53] <pepper> na they just look like ips
#3087 [21:53] <aetherian> then try the one for the ethernet one, I guess
#3088 [21:53] <pepper> theres like a subnet mask and a link local
#3089 [21:54] <pepper> ethernet just says "media disconnected"
#3090 [21:54] <aetherian> I thought you said there was a default gateway under ethernet
#3091 [21:55] <pepper> woops my bad
#3092 [21:55] <VoxelHead> Guessss who made waffles!
#3093 [21:55] <aetherian> shut up VoxelHead
#3094 [21:55] <VoxelHead> :(
#3095 [21:56] <aetherian> pepper: try all the default gateways it lists when you input "ipconfig"
#3096 [21:56] <aetherian> they worked for me when I had win7
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#3098 [21:57] <Kealper> wait, what's pepper trying to do?
#3099 [21:57] <aetherian> portforward
#3100 [21:57] <aetherian> but I think I forget the way to do it on windows
#3101 [21:57] <pepper> ok i more thing the server thing i downloaded disallowed me from opening minecraft. whats ups with that
#3102 [21:58] <aetherian> specify
#3103 [21:58] <Kealper> disallowed you?
#3104 [21:58] <pepper> like when i opened it it was just black
#3105 [21:58] <pepper> minecraft not the server
#3106 [21:58] <pepper> but when i deleted it minecraft worked
#3107 [21:59] <aetherian> uh
#3108 [21:59] <aetherian> wat
#3109 [21:59] <Kealper> wait, when the server was running, you could not see anything in minecraft?
#3110 [21:59] <pepper> yea i kno its wierd
#3111 [21:59] <pepper> yes
#3112 [21:59] <Kealper> how much ram does your computer have?
#3113 [21:59] <pepper> um lemme chekc
#3114 [22:00] <pepper> 3
#3115 [22:00] <aetherian> right click on "computer" or "my computer" in the start menu
#3116 [22:00] <aetherian> oh, you got it
#3117 [22:00] <pepper> gb
#3118 [22:00] <Kealper> hmm...
#3119 [22:00] <aetherian> technically GB, I'd assume, but oh well
#3120 [22:00] <rawkjawk> guys couple quick questions about mods...
#3121 [22:00] <pepper> and it said i was only using like 30-40 %
#3122 [22:00] <Kealper> rawkjawk: shoot
#3123 [22:00] <rawkjawk> 1. are players allowed to use mods on multi player 2. if so would the server admin have to load that mod?
#3124 [22:00] <pepper> maybe they arent related and my comp was just being wierd
#3125 [22:00] <rawkjawk> or can players use it?
#3126 [22:01] <aetherian> rawkjawk: players can use some mods
#3127 [22:01] <aetherian> such as the light being with you when you carry a torch
#3128 [22:01] <aetherian> but in general, that's only because it's very local
#3129 [22:01] <rawkjawk> so if i loaded a texture pack mod into multi player
#3130 [22:01] <Kealper> pepper: how long has it been since you restarted your computer?
#3131 [22:01] <aetherian> you can't use mods with anything actually new
#3132 [22:01] <rawkjawk> that would be perfectly safe?
#3133 [22:01] <aetherian> but you can have any texture pack
#3134 [22:01] <rawkjawk> kk
#3135 [22:01] <pepper> yesterday
#3136 [22:02] <aetherian> pepper: do it again
#3137 [22:02] <aetherian> windows needs its rests
#3138 [22:02] <zippity> ( Takes a number )
#3139 [22:02] <pepper> not cool
#3140 [22:02] <pepper> but ok
#3141 [22:02] <aetherian> hey
#3142 [22:02] <aetherian> normally windows does it by itself
#3143 [22:02] <aetherian> but sometimes you gotta do it manually
#3144 [22:02] <Kealper> zippity: what was your question? lol
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#3146 [22:03] <aetherian> >: josh
#3147 [22:04] <zippity> lol, I have a ATI Mobility 3670 hd, and I'm gettin the OpenGL error, that I see are a good amount of posts for, but only a few corrective actions, none I have found to work for me so far
#3148 [22:04] <Kealper> zippity: can you throw the full error log on pastebin.com?
#3149 [22:05] <aetherian> WOOHOO
#3150 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Stolen?
#3151 [22:05] <zippity> Sure will, not familiar with that site, but will give it a wack lol
#3152 [22:05] <aetherian> I broke linux partially :D
#3153 [22:05] <aetherian> gotta restart
#3154 [22:05] <zippity> lol
#3155 [22:05] <Kealper> zippity: it's pretty easy, just paste the error log into the paste box that it gives you, submit it, then copy the url and paste that in here
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#3161 [22:15] <zippity> Ok Kealper I was able to post most of it minus the last few lines
#3162 [22:16] <zippity> its name is same as username here
#3163 [22:16] <Kealper> go to http://ati.com and download the latest video card drivers from there
#3164 [22:17] <zippity> Ok I updated from Windows Device manager, and said was updated
#3165 [22:17] <Kealper> yes, but some times windows update does not give the full driver packages, so they are usually missing OpenGL stuff
#3166 [22:18] <Kealper> installing it off the maker's website ensures that you get everything related to that video card
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#3168 [22:18] <zippity> Gotcha
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#3170 [22:23] <zippity> installing now, thanks, will learn not to rely on auto updates now, thought I could at least rely on them
#3171 [22:24] <rawkjawk> ?dokus
#3172 [22:24] <rawkjawk> ?dokus unnamed
#3173 [22:24] <rawkjawk> hmmmz
#3174 [22:25] <aetherian> ??!
#3175 [22:25] <rawkjawk> ah was tryin to find the link for dokus texture pack
#3176 [22:25] <zippity> lol Odoyle Rulez
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#3179 [22:29] <zippity> Works like a charm thank you
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#3183 [22:34] <Kealper> zippity: installing the drivers from ATI fixed it?
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#3186 [22:38] <Jarred> heey iam running minecraft using linux,on a netbook. Its very laggy. but when i lookk at my system monitor only 47% of ram is being used. How can i give minecraft the full gig of ram?
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#3191 [22:40] <Mathuin> I do wish someone would write something like pymclevel but better. I don't want to do it. :-)
#3192 [22:40] <xales> Jarred: it's not likely RAM that is the issue
#3193 [22:40] <xales> it will use what it needs
#3194 [22:40] <xales> it's mor likely CPU or GPU that is the issue
#3195 [22:40] <Jarred> isnt there java parameters to give it more ram?
#3196 [22:40] <jms1989> Jarred, running minecraft is more processor intensive then memory intensive... you need a relatively powerful cpu to run it smoothly...
#3197 [22:41] <Jarred> 1.6Ghz processor aint gonna help me...
#3198 [22:41] <Jarred> lol
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#3200 [22:41] <Jarred> but is there not java arguaments to start minecraft.jar from the command line with more ram?
#3201 [22:41] <Jarred> it may help atleast./
#3202 [22:41] <jms1989> it has to process all those pixels and depending on your charactor map, one block may have up to 256x256 pixels
#3203 [22:42] <jms1989> increasing ram well help some but it will still lag.
#3204 [22:42] <xales> Jarred: it won't change anything
#3205 [22:42] <Mathuin> Jarred: there are arguments to increase the amount of RAM. Take the ones from minecraft.net, and increase the values. It might not do any good, though.
#3206 [22:42] <xales> it will only use the 1GB
#3207 [22:42] <xales> by default it's 1GB
#3208 [22:42] <xales> it won't always use 100% of allocated RAM
#3209 [22:42] <xales> only what it needs
#3210 [22:42] <xales> RAM is not the issue
#3211 [22:42] <jms1989> you may turn on the fog, that can help control the workload.
#3212 [22:43] <Mathuin> Simpler graphics, shorter range, yeah.
#3213 [22:43] <xales> and turn off smooth lighting
#3214 [22:43] <jms1989> trust me, minecraft can lag even on a quad core box with 8 gigs of ram :/
#3215 [22:44] <jms1989> expecially when detonating tnt
#3216 [22:44] <VoxelHead> bye Jarred
#3217 [22:44] <jms1989> abrupt ending
#3218 [22:44] <xales> Joshua: too abrupt for your cake?
#3219 [22:44] <Joshua> the cake
#3220 [22:45] <xales> Joshua: you are making a cake
#3221 [22:45] <Joshua> that was making obscene noises on the couxaleser ?
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#3223 [22:47] <Mathuin> Ugh, is a quad core with 8 gigs still a good machine? Why does mine feel so slow? :-(
#3224 [22:47] <xales> Mine is less than that :P
#3225 [22:47] <xales> Dual with 4
#3226 [22:47] <xales> so, derp
#3227 [22:48] <bacon> That is a very good machine Mathuin
#3228 [22:48] <aetherian> derp de derp, xales o.o
#3229 [22:48] <aetherian> only?
#3230 [22:48] <Mathuin> The next machine will have more RAM. MORE RAM.
#3231 [22:49] <aetherian> like an IBM super server?
#3232 [22:49] <aetherian> ...thingy
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#3234 [22:50] <Mathuin> Maybe. At my old job we had some dual quadcore monsters with like 32G of RAM for Oracle stuff. I could use one of those.
#3235 [22:50] <Mathuin> Sounded like a jet engine, though.
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#3237 [22:50] <aetherian> it almost sounds good enough to play minecraft
#3238 [22:50] <aetherian> you just need like a quad GPU
#3239 [22:50] <Mathuin> No video card. :-(
#3240 [22:50] <Cial> XD
#3241 [22:51] <aetherian> okay then, it's good enough to run a whole helluva lot of instances of zork :D
#3242 [22:51] <aetherian> maybe some nethack too?
#3243 [22:51] <Mathuin> I miss nethack. Sigh.
#3244 [22:51] <Mathuin> I never did win that game.
#3245 [22:51] <aetherian> it still has developers
#3246 [22:51] <aetherian> play it nao :O
#3247 [22:52] <aetherian> nethack.org :)
#3248 [22:52] <Jerub> telnet nethack.alt.org
#3249 [22:52] <Mathuin> I got a job through nao -- that job where I got to play with the big computers, in fact.
#3250 [22:52] <Mathuin> I know the guy who runs it. :-)
#3251 [22:53] <aetherian> awesome, jerub
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#3253 [22:54] <sola> Anyone available to help me?
#3254 [22:54] <aetherian> yes
#3255 [22:55] <aetherian> I am
#3256 [22:55] <aetherian> just read my EULA and you're good to go
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#3258 [22:55] <sola> Uhm.
#3259 [22:56] <sola> Where can I find this eula?
#3260 [22:56] <xales> He was kidding...
#3261 [22:56] <sola> Hilarious.
#3262 [22:56] <xales> what do you need help with?
#3263 [22:56] <aetherian> xales: I should write one though
#3264 [22:56] <sola> I can't seem to play multiplayer.
#3265 [22:56] <xales> what happens when you try?
#3266 [22:56] <sola> every server I connect to connects fine, but I can't type in chat, or load the world.
#3267 [22:57] <sola> I'm basically falling forever and nothing loads.
#3268 [22:57] <sola> : \
#3269 [22:57] <xales> http://speedtest.net/
#3270 [22:57] <xales> run test, paste result link
#3271 [22:58] <sola> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215772035.png
#3272 [22:58] <xales> that ping and upload speed worry me
#3273 [22:58] <xales> that's...really terrible
#3274 [22:58] * xales smacks Kealper
#3274 [22:59] <Kealper> rawr
#3275 [22:59] <sola> I can play other games just fine....it's just minecraft.
#3276 [22:59] <sola> : \
#3277 [22:59] <xales> Other games aren't Minecraft
#3278 [22:59] <sola> ....okay?
#3279 [22:59] <xales> Just because other stuff works, doesn't mean Minecraft would
#3280 [22:59] <sola> I don't think that is low enough to cause an issue where the world literally does not load.
#3281 [22:59] <sola> I'm aware of that.
#3282 [22:59] <sola> >_>
#3283 [22:59] <Kealper> uhh...are you trying to host or just play?
#3284 [23:00] <Bob_Sack> my download is worse than his and im fine
#3285 [23:00] <sola> Just play.
#3286 [23:00] <Bob_Sack> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215773295.png
#3287 [23:00] <sola> I've tried joining 10 different servers.
#3288 [23:00] <Mathuin> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1215773602.png sweet
#3289 [23:00] <Kealper> that should be good then
#3290 [23:00] <Kealper> what issue?
#3291 [23:00] <xales> Kealper
#3292 [23:00] <xales> look at ping
#3293 [23:00] <xales> for a server that close
#3294 [23:00] <xales> |:
#3295 [23:01] <sola> [22:57] <sola> every server I connect to connects fine, but I can't type in chat, or load the world.
#3296 [23:01] <sola> [22:57] <sola> I'm basically falling forever and nothing loads.
#3297 [23:01] <Kealper> yeah, ping is pretty high :/
#3298 [23:01] <sola> 100 ping isn't THAT bad.
#3299 [23:01] <sola> : \
#3300 [23:01] <Kealper> sola: probably not internet speed related (too much)...probably more to do with your computer's ethernet card
#3301 [23:01] <xales> it is, actually, really bad
#3302 [23:01] <Mathuin> It's Minecraft, not Quake.
#3303 [23:01] <xales> :|
#3304 [23:01] <Kealper> minecraft tends to be rather picky with network cards
#3305 [23:02] <Kealper> especially since the last update
#3306 [23:02] <sola> I've played multiplayer FINE before the beta update.
#3307 [23:02] <sola> Well..
#3308 [23:02] <sola> Can I find a list of cards it randomly doesn't support now?
#3309 [23:02] <Mathuin> It seems wacky to me that Java of write-once-run-anywhere fame is having crappy trouble with network hardware.
#3310 [23:03] <Kealper> we have no idea what causes the fail with certain computers with the 1.3 update :/
#3311 [23:03] <sola> So, there's nothing that can be done...?
#3312 [23:03] <Kealper> it seems to be something related to a change in minecraft's netcode that should be fixed in the upcomming version 1.4
#3313 [23:04] <Kealper> well, if you have another network card laying around (wireless, wired, anything) you could try that one
#3314 [23:04] <sola> Uhm..
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#3316 [23:04] <sola> I might have a wireless one, but the signal is incredibly low
#3317 [23:04] <sola> it'll just make game impossible.
#3318 [23:04] <sola> gaming*
#3319 [23:05] <Kealper> give it a shot, just to see if it will let you load the map
#3320 [23:05] <sola> time to dig through my box of unused computer crap..
#3321 [23:05] <Kealper> if it lets you atleast load the map, then we'll know it's something to do with your computer's network card
#3322 [23:05] <sola> Be right back.
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#3324 [23:07] <coffeegood> hi
#3325 [23:07] <xales> hello
#3326 [23:07] <coffeegood> quick question about connecting to a friends IP
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#3328 [23:07] <coffeegood> need the 25565?
#3329 [23:07] <xales> no
#3330 [23:07] <Mathuin> no, it's the default.
#3331 [23:08] <coffeegood> so just 5.11.56.118
#3332 [23:08] <coffeegood> ?
#3333 [23:08] <coffeegood> he was asking if he needed to whitelist the server
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#3335 [23:09] <xales> oh
#3336 [23:09] <coffeegood> it worked when i was at his house with my laptop using 10.0.0.4
#3337 [23:09] <xales> that's a Hamachi IP
#3338 [23:09] <coffeegood> a local
#3339 [23:09] <coffeegood> O
#3340 [23:09] <xales> it probably won't work with Hamachi
#3341 [23:09] <xales> he should just port forward
#3342 [23:09] <coffeegood> ok thx
#3343 [23:09] <Mathuin> who the hell started using 5.x.x.x for something like that?
#3344 [23:10] <coffeegood> idk hes noob
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#3346 [23:10] <Mathuin> not him, the hamachi morons.
#3347 [23:10] <coffeegood> just new he youtubed how to create server
#3348 [23:10] <xales> don't..ever do that
#3349 [23:10] <xales> Youtube tutorials = the shittiest things on the planet
#3350 [23:10] <coffeegood> ya why im on here with pro;s lol
#3351 [23:11] <sola> Well.
#3352 [23:11] <sola> I can't seem to find it.
#3353 [23:11] <sola> But I don't think it's the issue to be honest.
#3354 [23:12] <xales> sola: There is really nothing else it could be
#3355 [23:12] <xales> It's a known problem
#3356 [23:12] <fogWraith> xales is the grammaton cleric of server, firewall & router settings
#3357 [23:12] <sola> Well.
#3358 [23:12] <xales> nah
#3359 [23:12] <xales> that's Joshua. He is a pro
#3360 [23:12] <Joshua> who he thought was 16 ?
#3361 [23:12] <Bob_Sack> so insightful
#3362 [23:12] <xales> Joshua: suck my pixie dick you lil' wank
#3363 [23:12] <Joshua> my pixie dick you are a clitbucket
#3364 [23:13] <xales> >:
#3365 [23:13] <sola> I don't seem to think that if my computer would allow me to load multiplayer servers fine, then after reinstallation just stop working all together, would tell me it's my card.
#3366 [23:13] <sola> If my card worked during the same update I was on when it DID work, my card should work now.
#3367 [23:13] <xales> Make sure you have the correct driver for it
#3368 [23:13] <Bob_Sack> maybe your memory is just foggy
#3369 [23:13] <sola> Ah, that might be it.
#3370 [23:13] <Bob_Sack> and you did have 1.2 before
#3371 [23:13] <sola> My memory isn't foggy. This was 2 days ago it worked.
#3372 [23:13] <sola> >_>
#3373 [23:13] * fogWraith reads up
#3373 [23:13] <Bob_Sack> pff
#3374 [23:14] <Kealper> XALES
#3375 [23:14] <Bob_Sack> your mom was 2 days ago
#3376 [23:14] <xales> Joshua: Say hi to fogWraith
#3377 [23:14] <Joshua> t say no to that,
#3378 [23:14] <Kealper> you may be on to something....
#3379 [23:14] * fogWraith slaps Joshua silly
#3379 [23:14] <Kealper> i wonder if some of the windows update versions of NIC drivers just suck at life when it comes to minecraft
#3380 [23:14] <fogWraith> sola, I had the same issue you had... proved to be faulty drivers
#3381 [23:14] <sola> Oh, by the way xales.
#3382 [23:14] <sola> I came in here yesterday/the day before that with the issue of not being able to install.
#3383 [23:14] <Kealper> Joshua: i hate you
#3384 [23:14] <Joshua> when you try ?
#3385 [23:15] <Kealper> >.>
#3386 [23:15] <xales> Joshua: Kealper has a little pixie dick
#3387 [23:15] <Joshua> my pixie dick
#3388 [23:15] <sola> It would stick me on "downloading packages"
#3389 [23:15] <xales> :3333
#3390 [23:15] <Kealper> fail lol
#3391 [23:15] <Mathuin> Your kink is not okay. :-)
#3392 [23:15] <sola> The solution was to fully update windows.
#3393 [23:15] <sola> So if anyone asks, ^ that.
#3394 [23:15] <fogWraith> Joshua, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A GAME?
#3395 [23:15] <Joshua> heck would a simple logging bot use 4
#3396 [23:16] <xales> fogWraith: lol, you got the refernce :O
#3397 [23:17] <xales> also, I did entry that stuff into it's brain
#3398 [23:17] <fogWraith> Derp
#3399 [23:17] <xales> but it forgot among all the wanker/cock stuff
#3400 [23:17] <fogWraith> It's the first thing I think of whenever I hear / see the name... wargames ;/
#3401 [23:17] <xales> Joshua: Greetings professor Falken
#3402 [23:17] <Joshua> cial :
#3403 [23:17] <xales> Joshua: Greetings professor Falken
#3404 [23:17] * Joshua : miclee is a fat hairy bastard
#3404 [23:17] <xales> LOL
#3405 [23:17] <fogWraith> :|
#3406 [23:17] <Cial> Joshua why you ping me
#3407 [23:17] <xales> Joshua: Greetings professor
#3408 [23:17] <Joshua> : greetings professor
#3409 [23:17] <Joshua> that ping and upload speed worry me
#3410 [23:17] <xales> lol
#3411 [23:18] <xales> it's slowly and surely turning into a dick-obsessed but yet helpful bot
#3412 [23:18] <Bob_Sack> it embodies the minecraft irc channels
#3413 [23:18] <Mathuin> So basically a college student.
#3414 [23:18] <xales> yes
#3415 [23:18] <xales> Joshua: You like dick?
#3416 [23:18] <Joshua> : xales
#3417 [23:18] <xales> Joshua: You like dick?
#3418 [23:18] <Joshua> be xales !
#3419 [23:18] <xales> :<<<<<
#3420 [23:18] <xales> Joshua: eat a dick
#3421 [23:18] <Joshua> xales
#3422 [23:18] <xales> what
#3423 [23:18] <xales> !unlearn xales
#3424 [23:18] <Joshua> Unlearn done in 0.01s
#3425 [23:18] <xales> Joshua: eat a dick
#3426 [23:18] <Joshua> xales
#3427 [23:18] <Kealper> Joshua: chode smoker
#3428 [23:18] <Joshua> Kealper
#3429 [23:19] <Kealper> >.>
#3430 [23:19] <xales> what the hell
#3431 [23:19] * fogWraith lol'd
#3431 [23:19] <xales> Joshua: suck my pixie dick you fat hairy bastard, hagrid, you are a wizard
#3432 [23:19] <Joshua> you fat hairy bastard oaf
#3433 [23:19] <xales> haha
#3434 [23:19] <fogWraith> Does he listen only to you? ;P
#3435 [23:19] <xales> no
#3436 [23:19] <Kealper> Joshua: you're a wizard harry!
#3437 [23:19] <Joshua> be Kealper !
#3438 [23:19] <xales> he learns from everything said in a number of channels
#3439 [23:19] <xales> and respons if it has Joshua in it
#3440 [23:19] <Joshua> xales
#3441 [23:19] <xales> fff
#3442 [23:20] <xales> !known #nick
#3443 [23:20] <Joshua> xales is known (4 contexts)
#3444 [23:20] <xales> !unlearn #nick
#3445 [23:20] <Joshua> Unlearn done in 0.00s
#3446 [23:20] <xales> !unlearn xales
#3447 [23:20] <Joshua> Unlearn done in 0.00s
#3448 [23:20] <Kealper> !known #nick
#3449 [23:20] <Joshua> Kealper is unknown.
#3450 [23:20] <xales> Joshua: eat a wanker
#3451 [23:20] <Joshua> eat more wanker
#3452 [23:20] <Kealper> :<
#3453 [23:20] <fogWraith> Joshua: You titwank, whats my IP? I can't seem to find my firewall in the windows!
#3454 [23:20] <Joshua> they seem to play minecraft
#3455 [23:20] * fogWraith approves
#3455 [23:21] <fogWraith> Joshua, did Harry go to Hogwarts?
#3456 [23:21] <Joshua> we could go to master and take the precious
#3457 [23:21] * VoxelHead mutters: 'My precious, wheres my precious?'
#3457 [23:21] <Kealper> lol
#3458 [23:21] <Shadow386> ...
#3459 [23:21] <Shadow386> wat
#3460 [23:21] <fogWraith> :|
#3461 [23:21] <Mathuin> too many bots.
#3462 [23:21] <xales> Joshua: you are smoking Shadow386's imaginary chode
#3463 [23:21] <Joshua> joshua, pigmen are win
#3464 [23:22] <xales> Miclee ^
#3465 [23:22] <bread> lol
#3466 [23:22] <Shadow386> xales, imaginary chode is correct, as I have a large wang
#3467 [23:22] <Shadow386> >:D
#3468 [23:22] <xales> ask Joshua how large it is
#3469 [23:22] <Joshua> ask joshua how large it is, actually, really bad car wreck
#3470 [23:22] <xales> :3
#3471 [23:22] <fogWraith> Joshua: Shadow386 robs children of their ... childhood
#3472 [23:23] <Joshua> feed logs of minecraft ?
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#3474 [23:23] <fogWraith> Yes... I will feed Joshua ... the logs
#3475 [23:23] <Joshua> you feed him
#3476 [23:23] <fogWraith> I feed Joshua
#3477 [23:23] <Shadow386> So many bots D:
#3478 [23:23] <Joshua> will feed joshua
#3479 [23:23] <fogWraith> fogWraith will feed Joshua
#3480 [23:23] <Kealper> no one will feed Joshua
#3481 [23:23] <Joshua> you feed him ?
#3482 [23:23] <xales> fogWraith: if you know how markov chains work, that's what it's using, if that helps you get it to say what you want at all
#3483 [23:23] <fogWraith> I feed Joshua
#3484 [23:23] <Joshua> fogwraith will feed joshua
#3485 [23:23] <Joshua> i feed joshua
#3486 [23:24] <fogWraith> ;)
#3487 [23:24] <VoxelHead> :o)
#3488 [23:24] <xales> Joshua: you fat hairy bastard
#3489 [23:24] <Joshua> a fat hairy bastard, hagrid, i busy making songs and videos naow
#3490 [23:24] <Kealper> wat
#3491 [23:24] <xales> Joshua: spells and shit
#3492 [23:24] <Joshua> of shit
#3493 [23:24] <xales> Joshua: an owl
#3494 [23:24] <Joshua> like an idiot please
#3495 [23:24] <xales> Joshua: dick in the owl
#3496 [23:24] <Joshua> i'll rip yer giant dick ?
#3497 [23:25] <Bob_Sack> its threatening, yet complimenting
#3498 [23:25] <fogWraith> Who feeds Joshua
#3499 [23:25] <Joshua> ones who are dead
#3500 [23:25] <Kealper> minecraft feeds Joshua
#3501 [23:25] <Joshua> minecraft can lag even on a quad core box with 8 gigs of ram : /
#3502 [23:25] <Kealper> LOL
#3503 [23:25] <Mathuin> There's no sense crying over every mistake.
#3504 [23:26] <Bob_Sack> that is what i will feed my pyborg
#3505 [23:26] <Bob_Sack> still alive lyrics
#3506 [23:26] <fogWraith> Joshua is married to Seven of Nine
#3507 [23:26] * Kealper goes afk
#3507 [23:26] <xales> Miclee did that already
#3508 [23:26] <Joshua> the issue of not being able to install
#3509 [23:26] <Miclee> And doing that
#3510 [23:26] <Miclee> is leading me to rewrite it
#3511 [23:26] <Miclee> Minecraft-ish
#3512 [23:26] <xales> lol
#3513 [23:26] <Miclee> http://pastebin.com/n4paVTtP
#3514 [23:26] <xales> Joshua: stop smoking a chode
#3515 [23:26] <Joshua> : i'll keep cake in there
#3516 [23:26] <xales> hahaha
#3517 [23:26] <xales> Shadow386
#3518 [23:26] <xales> :<
#3519 [23:27] <Miclee> Joshua, the cake is a lie.
#3520 [23:27] <Joshua> keep cake in there
#3521 [23:27] <Shadow386> wut
#3522 [23:27] <Miclee> Joshua, Miclee eats cake for DINNER.
#3523 [23:27] <xales> inb4 fat hairy bastart
#3524 [23:27] <Joshua> joshua, who eats giant dick off
#3525 [23:27] <xales> inb4 fat hairy bastard
#3526 [23:27] <xales> lol
#3527 [23:27] <xales> !unlearn joshua
#3528 [23:27] <Joshua> Unlearn done in 0.02s
#3529 [23:27] <xales> !unlearn #nick
#3530 [23:27] <Joshua> Unlearn done in 0.00s
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#3532 [23:28] <xales> !unlearn Joshua
#3533 [23:28] <Joshua> Unlearn done in 0.00s
#3534 [23:28] <xales> Joshua
#3535 [23:28] <xales> Joshua: Bukkit
#3536 [23:28] <Joshua> then : p
#3537 [23:28] <xales> Joshua: Bukkit
#3538 [23:28] <Joshua> ellieg : dick is cheeseburger
#3539 [23:28] <xales> Joshua: Bukkit
#3540 [23:28] <Joshua> close : o
#3541 [23:28] <xales> Joshua: Bukkit
#3542 [23:28] <Joshua> : /
#3543 [23:28] <xales> Joshua: worldguard
#3544 [23:28] <Joshua> 22 : 32 < joshua> ellieg eat more wanker
#3545 [23:28] <xales> :<
#3546 [23:28] <xales> Joshua: non-resident players
#3547 [23:28] <Joshua> 22 : 28 <@ellieg> cannot find more wanker
#3548 [23:29] <Bob_Sack> he's more penis-obsessed than he is helpful
#3549 [23:29] <xales> true
#3550 [23:29] <xales> Joshua: Cannot find more wanker
#3551 [23:29] <Joshua> 06] <@ellieg> cannot find more wanker, obviously
#3552 [23:29] <xales> Joshua: Cannot find more wanker
#3553 [23:29] <Joshua> : 28 <@ellieg> cannot find more wanker
#3554 [23:29] <xales> Joshua: Cannot find more wanker
#3555 [23:29] <Joshua> d : 28 <@ellieg> cannot find more wanker
#3556 [23:29] <xales> Joshua: Cannot find more wanker
#3557 [23:29] <Joshua> cannot petition the lord with rare
#3558 [23:29] <xales> Joshua: Cannot find more wanker
#3559 [23:29] <Joshua> cannot find more wanker
#3560 [23:29] <xales> Joshua: your wanker is mine
#3561 [23:29] <Joshua> hey mine too
#3562 [23:29] <xales> LOL
#3563 [23:29] * Dec [Dec@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3564 [23:29] <Dec> Hello?
#3565 [23:31] <Dec> #help
#3566 [23:31] <Dec> wtf?
#3567 [23:31] <xales> ?
#3568 [23:31] * trekkie1701c [trekkie1701c@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3569 [23:32] <Dec> can anyone help me with an issue?
#3570 [23:32] <xales> what issue?
#3571 [23:32] <Dec> Not being able to play alpha multiplayer
#3572 [23:32] <Bob_Sack> why're you still using alpha?
#3573 [23:32] <xales> ^
#3574 [23:32] <Dec> the free version on the site
#3575 [23:32] <xales> that's Classic, not Alpha
#3576 [23:32] <Bob_Sack> there is no free version of minecraft alpha
#3577 [23:33] <xales> and I believe it's still down
#3578 [23:33] <Dec> oh , my bad...
#3579 [23:33] <Bob_Sack> so yeah what xales said
#3580 [23:33] <xales> ok, nevermind, it's u;
#3581 [23:33] <Dec> its down?
#3582 [23:33] <xales> up*
#3583 [23:33] <xales> nope
#3584 [23:33] <xales> what happens when you try to play, then?
#3585 [23:33] <Dec> I can move the camera around, but the second I move, I move one block then it freezes for about 15 seconds
#3586 [23:34] <Bob_Sack> sounds like a shit computer
#3587 [23:34] <Dec> nope, its actually little higher then average
#3588 [23:34] <Bob_Sack> got newest java?
#3589 [23:34] <xales> http://speedtest.net/
#3590 [23:34] <xales> run it, paste result link
#3591 [23:34] <Dec> lower average to be considered a gaming computer
#3592 [23:34] <Dec> yesI have newest java
#3593 [23:35] * xales brb
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#3594 [23:35] <Bob_Sack> Joshua, help Dec
#3595 [23:35] <Dec> theres like so many people yet only a few talking?
#3596 [23:35] <Joshua> it may help atleast
#3597 [23:35] * VoxelHead kicked bread_brb from #MineCraftHelp (Reason: nick flood)
#3598 [23:35] <Bob_Sack> most are asleep or afk
#3599 [23:35] <Dec> oh kk...
#3600 [23:35] <bacon> lol
#3601 [23:36] <bacon> damn Voxel
#3602 [23:36] <bacon> Voxel, fire everything at bacon
#3603 [23:36] * VoxelHead swoops in on bacon
#3603 [23:36] * VoxelHead lauches all the escape pods
#3603 [23:36] * Glothek_at_work [Glothek_at_work@notlogged] has joined ##MineCraftHelp
#3604 [23:36] <bacon> Voxel, cloak
#3605 [23:36] * VoxelHead shimmers and disappears from view...
#3605 [23:37] <aetherian> where are you, VoxelHead
#3606 [23:37] <Dec> should I try to update my driver to see if thats it?
#3607 [23:38] <Dec> graphics driver
#3608 [23:38] <Mathuin> Ugh, another three hours for this stupid thing to generate.
#3609 [23:38] <Mathuin> Need MOAR COARS.
#3610 [23:39] <xales> Dec
#3611 [23:40] <xales> ??> Dec win/dxdiag
#3612 [23:40] <VoxelHead> Dec: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3613 [23:40] <VoxelHead> Dec: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3614 [23:40] <Dec> why do u want my system information?
#3615 [23:41] <Dec> I have a crappy graphics card but im able to play beta with it...
#3616 [23:41] <xales> so I can determine if that is the problem?
#3617 [23:41] <Dec> 2gig 2.2 GH processor
#3618 [23:41] <Dec> what else u need?
#3619 [23:41] <Dec> intel(R) gma 3100
#3620 [23:41] <Dec> thats my graphics card
#3621 [23:42] <Dec> this isnt considered spamming is it?
#3622 [23:42] <xales> wow
#3623 [23:42] <xales> no
#3624 [23:42] <Dec> ok
#3625 [23:42] <Dec> 2gig Ram
#3626 [23:42] <xales> uh...pretty sure that card would be the issue :|
#3627 [23:42] <Dec> Im able to play Minecraft Beta though
#3628 [23:42] <Dec> and I used to be able to play classic
#3629 [23:42] <Dec> with this computer
#3630 [23:42] <xales> "able to play" doesn't mean much if it plays at 3fps
#3631 [23:43] <Dec> lol it was 4 thank u very much
#3632 [23:43] <bacon> Voxel can cloak for a long time
#3633 [23:43] <Dec> actually at like 15 fps so I could play it
#3634 [23:43] <xales> oh
#3635 [23:43] <xales> a 3100 is a 965
#3636 [23:43] <xales> that's interesting
#3637 [23:43] <xales> try a different Classic server?
#3638 [23:43] <Dec> do what?
#3639 [23:43] <Dec> Ive tried many
#3640 [23:44] <xales> ??> Dec win/reinst
#3641 [23:44] <VoxelHead> Dec: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3642 [23:44] <VoxelHead> Dec: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3643 [23:44] <Dec> btw If I run around and keep hitting Enter to set a spawn every 2 blocks it runs perfect wtf
#3644 [23:45] <Dec> I bounce in the air each time but oh well...
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#3646 [23:45] <Mathuin> ... hitting enter sets a spawn?
#3647 [23:46] <Dec> lol yeah idk
#3648 [23:46] <Dec> imma reinstall mah bin
#3649 [23:46] <Bob_Sack> he's playing classic
#3650 [23:46] <Mathuin> Ah okay, I think I missed tha tpart.
#3651 [23:47] <Dec> hmmm I probably shouldve closed the server when I deleted the bin
#3652 [23:47] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3653 [23:48] <Katzuyu> Can u place cactuz in sand, to make it grow into 3 pices?
#3654 [23:48] <Dec> and I know its not my graphics card because I can set render to far and get 25 fps
#3655 [23:48] <Dec> as long as I dont move
#3656 [23:48] <Dec> I can look around though
#3657 [23:49] <Bob_Sack> you computer does not sound modern in any way
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#3659 [23:49] <Bob_Sack> my brother's pentium 4 gets that kind of performance on classic
#3660 [23:50] <Dec> holy crap
#3661 [23:50] <Dec> Lol this guys trying to talk to me cuz im the only other guy on the server and I cant hit T cuz itll freeze :{
#3662 [23:50] <Jerub> gaming is hopeless on intelgraphics.
#3663 [23:50] <VoxelHead> onless hope but what "would" I know
#3664 [23:51] <Dec> I need a new graphics card **************
#3665 [23:51] <Dec> intel gma 3100, r u guys good with graphics?
#3666 [23:52] <Dec> is my connection lagging? cuz java seemed to freeze for a sec
#3667 [23:52] <xales> can't tell
#3668 [23:53] <xales> if it's a laptop (it sounds like it) you can't replace the graphics card
#3669 [23:53] <xales> ??< mods
#3670 [23:53] <Dec> nope desktop
#3671 [23:54] <Dec> btw, I found out u couldnt remove a graphics card from a laptop about a year ago... That laptop doesnt work anymore
#3672 [23:54] <xales> lol
#3673 [23:54] <Dec> lol, I tried fixing it
#3674 [23:54] <Dec> theres a short circuit somewhere though...
#3675 [23:57] <Dec> DANG, random computer/internet 2x speed
#3676 [23:57] <Dec> ok im checking to see if deleting the bin worked
#3677 [23:58] <Dec> It freezes the chat when it freezes classic , they both use java :/
#3678 [23:58] <Dec> any suggestions?
#3679 [23:59] <xales> what's the CPU? not just clock speed, but model
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#3681 [23:59] <Dec> oh, I have an inspiron
#3682 [23:59] <Dec> Inspiron 530
#3683 [23:59] <xales> that's your computer
#3684 [23:59] <xales> not CPU