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#8 [00:48] <krebbit> err.. anyone avail?
#9 [00:48] <xales> What do you need help with?
#10 [00:48] <cliff101> my /home command wont work?
#11 [00:49] <krebbit> I downloaded the Minecraft.jar, said to be an executable, but when I tried to run it, it says it isn't executable..
#12 [00:49] <xales> cliff101: Does the server you are playing on support /home?
#13 [00:49] <xales> krebbit: what OS?
#14 [00:49] <krebbit> Ubuntu..
#15 [00:49] <xales> ??> krebbit linux/java/debian
#16 [00:49] <xales> gah
#17 [00:49] <xales> one sec
#18 [00:49] <cliff101> xales dunno really
#19 [00:49] <cliff101> but some of the commands work
#20 [00:49] <xales> ??> krebbit java/linux/debian
#21 [00:49] <cliff101> I have my own server though
#22 [00:49] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (java/linux/debian) While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#23 [00:49] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (java/linux/debian) To install it, `sudo apt-get sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#24 [00:50] <xales> cliff101: it won't work unless support for it is added to the server, via a mod of some sort
#25 [00:50] <cliff101> is there anything thing to edit or ineed to download something?
#26 [00:51] <xales> You need to download a mod
#27 [00:51] <xales> Try Bukkit, their channel is #bukkit
#28 [00:51] <cliff101> ok then where should i place it
#29 [00:51] <cliff101> ok
#30 [00:51] <cliff101> thanks
#31 [00:52] <krebbit> JAva/Linux/Debian?
#32 [00:52] <VoxelHead> i know i know, but i have to be paid in pies
#33 [00:52] <xales> krebbit: follow the instructions.
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#36 [00:54] <krebbit> Invalid operatio sun-java6-jre...
#37 [00:54] <krebbit> #help
#38 [00:54] <xales> the command seems to be wrong
#39 [00:54] <xales> it's `apt-get install sun-java6-fre`
#40 [00:55] <xales> it's `apt-get install sun-java6-jre`
#41 [00:55] <xales> rather
#42 [00:55] <krebbit> Needs the "`"?
#43 [00:55] <xales> no
#44 [00:56] <krebbit> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
#45 [00:56] <xales> you missed the `sudo` part
#46 [00:57] <krebbit> I'm going to need the second part you posted earlier?
#47 [00:57] <xales> A: can't you scroll up? ._. B: `sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre`
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#49 [00:58] <krebbit> Planned on it..
#50 [00:59] <krebbit> Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
#51 [01:00] <xales> You need to enable the "restricted" repositories
#52 [01:00] <xales> This is a setting in the package manager
#53 [01:00] <xales> Please find it and enable it
#54 [01:01] <oldtopmanserver> krebbit: are you using debian?
#55 [01:01] <xales> oldtopmanserver: Ubuntu.
#56 [01:02] <oldtopmanserver> nvm then
#57 [01:02] <oldtopmanserver> Debain only has minimum repos at install
#58 [01:02] <krebbit> So, what am I enabling?
#59 [01:02] <xales> Even so, it's easier to enable using the GUI package manager it has
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#61 [01:02] <xales> krebbit: The "restricted" or "multiverse" repository.
#62 [01:03] <xales> krebbit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Ubuntu%20Software%20Tab
#63 [01:03] <aetherian> 'ello
#64 [01:03] <aetherian> I be back again.
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#66 [01:10] <krebbit> It appears to be enabled..
#67 [01:10] <xales> The 'multiverse' repository?
#68 [01:11] <krebbit> Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)
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#70 [01:12] <xales> And it was enabled?
#71 [01:12] <krebbit> Yes,
#72 [01:12] <BenAffleck> Can anyone link me to a resource, or let me know, how to make a free build server?
#73 [01:12] <xales> BenAffleck: "free build" - do you mean Classic?
#74 [01:12] <krebbit> Xales, sorry.
#75 [01:13] <BenAffleck> I'm not entirely sure, maybe. I just was in a server where they had every type of block and a blank canvas...
#76 [01:13] <krebbit> Apparently Ubuntu decided to disable the file as executable.
#77 [01:13] <krebbit> So all I had to do was enable it <_<
#78 [01:14] <xales> BenAffleck: You would do it like any other kind of server. Download the software, install whatever mod (that we do not support) that allows for that, and run it.
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#83 [01:22] <Jackson413> hi all
#84 [01:22] <VoxelHead> ;)
#85 [01:22] <bread> :D
#86 [01:22] <VoxelHead> ^_^
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#89 [01:23] <bread> :O
#90 [01:23] <VoxelHead> blimey
#91 [01:23] <Jackson413> ?
#92 [01:24] <xales> :O
#93 [01:24] <Jackson413> deadmau5 ftw
#94 [01:25] <Jackson413> ohey sup xales
#95 [01:31] <VoxelHead> I like them :-)
#96 [01:31] <bread> I like you VoxelHead
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#98 [01:34] <Nujax> Why do the spiders walk on water ;_;
#99 [01:34] <xales> They are spiders?
#100 [01:34] <Nujax> Sure looked like a spider to me..
#101 [01:37] <Nujax> Do they die?
#102 [01:37] <dopeghoti> if you shoot or stab them, yes.
#103 [01:37] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
#104 [01:37] <OODavo> Oh dear.
#105 [01:38] <OODavo> Ah, probably because that's not actually my IP.
#106 [01:38] * OODavo waits for DynDNS to refresh.
#106 [01:40] <dopeghoti> heh
#107 [01:40] <dopeghoti> that'd do it.
#108 [01:40] <VoxelHead> -_-
#109 [01:42] <bread> :D
#110 [01:43] <VoxelHead> ^_^
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#113 [01:44] <Thistledown> Heyo, helpfolk.
#114 [01:44] <xales> Hi
#115 [01:45] <Thistledown> All right. I was sent here for a little bit of help with Minecraft issues.
#116 [01:45] <xales> What issues?
#117 [01:46] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
#118 [01:46] <OODavo> Yep, that was the issue. Thanks, AuBot. :P
#119 [01:46] <Thistledown> Lowdown: Running Vista. have the most current Java. I login and boot up the game and it stops responding at the "Mojang" screen.
#120 [01:47] <xales> ??> Thistledown win/reinst
#121 [01:47] <VoxelHead> Thistledown: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#122 [01:47] <VoxelHead> Thistledown: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#124 [01:47] <Thistledown> Win?
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#126 [01:47] <xales> Thistledown: The key between "control" and "alt"
#127 [01:48] <Thistledown> Ah. Very sorry for bringing up what must have been a very silly problem.
#128 [01:48] <xales> That..may not fix it, and sadly, most of the information out there on how to fix it is incorrect, so no problem at all
#129 [01:50] <Thistledown> This appears to not be working. Most unfortunate.
#130 [01:51] <xales> Hmm
#131 [01:51] <xales> Has it always done this?
#132 [01:51] <Thistledown> Well, I've only had the game since tonight.
#133 [01:51] <xales> Has it ever worked?
#134 [01:51] <Thistledown> And it's done this all, say...ten or so times I've attempted to use the program.
#135 [01:52] <xales> ??> Thistledown win/dxdiag
#136 [01:52] <VoxelHead> Thistledown: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#137 [01:52] <VoxelHead> Thistledown: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#138 [01:52] <Thistledown> This is so strange.
#139 [01:53] <Thistledown> Never heard of dxdiag until today. And now I've run it twice in one day.
#140 [01:53] <Thistledown> On two different computers.
#141 [01:56] <Nujax> That was unsettling <_<
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#143 [01:57] <Thistledown> This is taking quite some time. Does this usually happen?
#144 [01:57] <xales> Not usually... :|
#145 [01:58] <Thistledown> Well, I'm not surprised that my computer is having difficulties. As it is a difficult machine.
#146 [01:58] <Thistledown> Iii suppose I shouldn't trouble you any more. It's probably a computer problem, not a software problem.
#147 [01:58] <Thistledown> Thank you for your help.
#148 [01:58] <Thistledown> And good-bye!
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#150 [02:01] <OODavo> When did VoxelHead get added?
#151 [02:01] <OODavo> Looks very helpful.
#152 [02:01] <xales> A long time ago, now
#153 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Only just a few months.
#154 [02:01] <MidnightDuske> Hi what is the new "seeds" option for when creating a new map in single player?
#155 [02:02] <OODavo> If a given random seed is used, it will always produce the same resulting map.
#156 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Random_seed&oldid=68449
#157 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> "A seed[1] is a code used in Minecraft's world generation process.[2] Each world has its own seed value which is used to keep generated terrain consistent, as generation is psuedo-random. Prior to Beta 1.3, seeds were automatically generated per-world. Since then, the player can input their own seed, which is not limited to numbers due to the use of the Java String.hashCode() function.
#158 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> For instance, a seed of "abc" is converted to the numeric value 97 * 31**2 + 98 * 31 + 99 = 96354. "
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#160 [02:02] <bud> hey
#161 [02:02] <bud> is kealper still awake :D
#162 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> !seen kealper
#163 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> >.>
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#165 [02:03] <MidnightDuske> thanks grey
#166 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#167 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Where did greybot go...
#168 [02:03] <bud> ok, GreyVulpine, do you remember the problems I was having earlier, when I talked to you? some stuff with this 1.3 bug?
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#170 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Could you refresh my memory?
#171 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Was it the chunk lag/chat lag issue?
#172 [02:04] <bud> well, I am having pretty much the full extent of this thing
#173 [02:04] <bud> tyes
#174 [02:04] <bud> chunks not loading
#175 [02:04] * GreyVulpine nods
#175 [02:04] <bud> chat laging
#176 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> There's really no solution for that at the moment, unfortunately.
#177 [02:04] <bud> ok well I gained some insight into what is happening on the end of connecting to the server
#178 [02:05] <bud> my friend gave me his error message from the server logs
#179 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> We can only hope 1.4 addresses these issues next week
#180 [02:05] <bud> [INFO] buddy1987 lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#181 [02:05] <bud> ya hopefully it does...
#182 [02:05] <bud> but thats the log message that is coming from the end of the server
#183 [02:05] <bud> and my end is an internal socket error with java
#184 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> I can surmise that the new chunk format is playing havoc with minecraft's already borderline-iffy netcode
#185 [02:06] <bud> ya
#186 [02:06] <bud> :) didn't know if that helps or not, but I figured it could possibly, seeing the error that the player gets, vs. the error the server gets
#187 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we don't really have any connection to mojang here. We're just community-run support.
#188 [02:07] <bud> :) and I must say, its the best community run support on the WWW
#189 [02:07] <bud> you guys are dang good here at what yaw do :)
#190 [02:08] <bud> well, ttyl
#191 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Thanks, we try to be here.
#192 [02:08] * GreyVulpine waves
#192 [02:08] * bud waves with a smile
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#194 [02:30] <Wahrheit> Sqozza: you dar?
#195 [02:30] <xales> Wahrheit: Sqozza is dar somewhar
#196 [02:31] <Wahrheit> Was wondering what he was playing and bitching about earlier
#197 [02:31] <Wahrheit> I had my steam client open to MNC to rack up hours, was actually asleep
#198 [02:31] <Wahrheit> xales: you got dat steam?
#199 [02:31] <xales> ja
#200 [02:31] <xales> http://steamcommunity.com/id/xales
#201 [02:31] <xales> IIRC
#202 [02:32] <Wahrheit> added son
#203 [02:32] <Wahrheit> you should get/play monday night combat
#204 [02:32] <Wahrheit> lulz and winning everywhere
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#206 [02:33] <Wahrheit> xales: http://steamcommunity.com/id/sxrwahrheit
#207 [02:34] <xales> Can't add you at the moment, lying in bed with laptop and can't open Steam
#208 [02:34] <Wahrheit> is k
#209 [02:34] <Wahrheit> look at my games
#210 [02:34] <Wahrheit> ;)
#211 [02:34] <VoxelHead> =D
#212 [02:34] <Wahrheit> VoxelHead: YOU ARE UBER YES?
#213 [02:34] <VoxelHead> more fun tha bucket of car
#214 [02:34] <Wahrheit> I was like SHIT WHERE HAVE I SEEN THAT NAME
#215 [02:35] <xales> lol
#216 [02:35] <xales> "more fun tha bucket of car"
#217 [02:35] <xales> wot
#218 [02:35] <Wahrheit> I am pretty sure VoxelHead has something to do with MNC
#219 [02:35] <Wahrheit> I think
#220 [02:35] <Wahrheit> >_>
#221 [02:36] <Wahrheit> I have certainly seen his name around >_>
#222 [02:38] <Wahrheit> VoxelHead: WHERE DO I RECOGNIZE YOUR NAME FROM >=|
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#225 [02:41] <Jackson413> is kealper here?
#226 [02:42] <xales> I think not
#227 [02:42] <Sqozza> Wahrheit: Not here.
#228 [02:42] <Sqozza> Sowwy.
#229 [02:42] <Wahrheit> D:
#230 [02:42] <Wahrheit> What were you playing?
#231 [02:42] <Sqozza> Killing Floor.
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#233 [02:42] <Sqozza> Then Cockbat Arms
#234 [02:42] <Wahrheit> oh lul
#235 [02:43] <Wahrheit> Who spent 90 bucks on it?
#236 [02:43] <Wahrheit> also nexon sucks
#237 [02:43] <Sqozza> I've spent bit over $100 on CA so far.
#238 [02:43] <Sqozza> >.>
#239 [02:43] <Wahrheit> wat
#240 [02:44] <Wahrheit> how...
#241 [02:44] <Sqozza> NX
#242 [02:44] <Wahrheit> oh stop playing combat arms
#243 [02:44] <Wahrheit> easy
#244 [02:44] <Wahrheit> cuz nexon sucks
#245 [02:44] <Wahrheit> instead play on my MC server
#246 [02:44] <Wahrheit> it's free
#247 [02:44] <Wahrheit> durphurp
#248 [02:45] <Sqozza> Lol.
#249 [02:45] <Sqozza> IP?
#250 [02:45] <Sqozza> I've been trying to hunt one down.
#251 [02:45] <Wahrheit> mc.summaxr.com:27265
#252 [02:45] <Sqozza> >.>
#253 [02:45] <Sqozza> What type is it?
#254 [02:45] <Wahrheit> mine just won 50 GBP in a contest
#255 [02:45] <Wahrheit> idk, awesome type?
#256 [02:46] <Wahrheit> monsters on falling damage off
#257 [02:46] <Wahrheit> health regen off
#258 [02:46] <Sqozza> Ie, pvp, freebuild
#259 [02:46] <Wahrheit> pvp on
#260 [02:46] <Sqozza> D'aww, PvP.
#261 [02:46] <Wahrheit> no specific building rules
#262 [02:46] <Sqozza> :<
#263 [02:46] <Wahrheit> nobody kills each otehr
#264 [02:46] <Wahrheit> which means you could assassinate if you felt like it lolololol
#265 [02:46] <aetherian> 'night
#266 [02:46] <Wahrheit> night bro
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#270 [03:05] <ReD> help
#271 [03:05] <xales> With?
#272 [03:05] <ReD> skins dont work.. for some reason they give me the 400 error
#273 [03:05] <xales> Try downloading it to your computer first and uploading it from there
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#275 [03:07] <ReD> from where?
#276 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> If you're using minecraftskins.com to get your skins, don't use their uploader
#277 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Download it directly from minecraftskins.com, then go to minecraft.net, go to your profile, and upload it there
#278 [03:08] <ReD> done thanks for help
#279 [03:08] * GreyVulpine makes a mental note to add that to VoxelHead's FAQ
#279 [03:08] <VoxelHead> I do love a good makesing.
#280 [03:09] <ReD> also fixed server lag issues
#281 [03:09] <ReD> THANLS
#282 [03:09] <VoxelHead> Bye red.
#283 [03:09] <bread> hi VoxelHead
#284 [03:09] <VoxelHead> =)
#285 [03:09] <bread> :D
#286 [03:09] <VoxelHead> -_-
#287 [03:09] <bread> :|
#288 [03:10] * GreyVulpine makes like Psycho and stabbies VoxelHead
#288 [03:10] * VoxelHead makes GreyVulpine back with a feature
#288 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. feature movies starring myself. I like that.
#289 [03:15] <Wahrheit> VoxelHead: srs where have I seen you
#290 [03:15] <Wahrheit> It's driving me mad
#291 [03:15] <Wahrheit> xales: What's the line for a .bat to make it keep the window open after completion again?
#292 [03:15] <bread> PAUSE
#293 [03:15] <xales> BREAD
#294 [03:15] <xales> is the line
#295 [03:15] <xales> :3
#296 [03:16] <bread> :D
#297 [03:16] <VoxelHead> =D
#298 [03:16] <Wahrheit> bread wins
#299 [03:16] <bread> I am the best MSDOS command ever
#300 [03:16] <Wahrheit> cheers
#301 [03:16] <VoxelHead> Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers.
#302 [03:16] <Wahrheit> voxelhead stop trolling pls
#303 [03:16] <bread> <3 VoxelHead
#304 [03:19] <Sqozza> Right guys.
#305 [03:19] <Sqozza> <3
#306 [03:19] <xales> Voxel, decloak
#307 [03:19] <xales> =/
#308 [03:21] <Sqozza> Trying to do a lan server.
#309 [03:21] <Sqozza> friend gets a timeout error.
#310 [03:21] <Sqozza> Suppose I'll get dicking around in the firewall settings?
#311 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> That would be my first guess
#312 [03:21] <Kimax> Sqozza is the machine old or new?
#313 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> If you've port forwarded correctly, and he's connecting to the right IP address, then software firewall is likely the issue
#314 [03:21] <Sqozza> On LAN?
#315 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Oh, LAN, then yeah, just firewall
#316 [03:22] <Sqozza> K
#317 [03:23] <Kimax> there are also problem on older machine... like mine XP... the NIC crashes when a player trying to connect, and then it looses all internet connection...
#318 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> That's just NIC-specific though
#319 [03:23] <Kimax> nope
#320 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> Plenty of newer computers can experience that as well
#321 [03:23] <xales> GreyVulpine: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1102751685.png
#322 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> ?
#323 [03:24] <Kimax> i have tryed it all,,, still dosnt work on that machine
#324 [03:24] <Sqozza> K, AV off, allowed through firewall
#325 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> What the crap..
#326 [03:24] <Sqozza> He's still timing out.
#327 [03:24] <Sqozza> :<
#328 [03:24] <xales> Sqozza: Probably wrong subnet?
#329 [03:24] <xales> What IP are you trying to connect from, and what IP to?
#330 [03:24] <xales> anyway
#331 [03:24] <Sqozza> Local IP is 192.168.1.2, connecting from 192.168.1.3
#332 [03:24] * xales needs go to bed
#332 [03:25] <Sqozza> Server doesn't even recognize his connection.
#333 [03:25] <Sqozza> :<
#334 [03:25] <Kimax> xales Jevla svenska :D
#335 [03:25] <xales> Kimax: That's not mine |:
#336 [03:25] <xales> I wish it was...
#337 [03:25] <xales> anyway
#338 [03:25] <Kimax> me too
#339 [03:25] * xales is going to bed
#339 [03:25] <Kimax> i have a 20/2
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#341 [03:26] <Wahrheit> sqozza: y u no visit
#342 [03:27] <Sqozza> Wahrheit: dunnolol
#343 [03:28] <Kimax> xales http://www.speedtest.net/result/1219364409.png
#344 [03:29] <Wahrheit> yay I made tectonicus work on commandline
#345 [03:35] <Wahrheit> Tectonicus y u no create cache using all 8 cores
#346 [03:37] <Wahrheit> found 37800 chunks so far
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#348 [03:42] <Wahrheit> found 62300 chunks so far
#349 [03:46] <Kealper> tectonicus sucks
#350 [03:46] <VoxelHead> Tectonicus = piss-pump.
#351 [03:47] <Kealper> yes, yes it is vox....spot on
#352 [03:48] <DeeWoo> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1219381429.png
#353 [03:48] <Kealper> DeeWoo: cheater
#354 [03:48] <VoxelHead> I'm gonna sing the doom song now... dooom doom doom [citation needed]
#355 [03:48] <DeeWoo> :P
#356 [03:48] <DeeWoo> no cheating here
#357 [03:48] <Kealper> you probably used a dedicated server in a datacenter lol
#358 [03:48] <DeeWoo> no
#359 [03:49] <DeeWoo> I work for an ISP :P
#360 [03:49] <Kealper> either that or you're paying out the butt for internet lol
#361 [03:49] <Kealper> mega cheater!
#362 [03:49] <DeeWoo> I'm just at my office
#363 [03:49] <Wahrheit> Kealper: name a better map generator
#364 [03:49] <DeeWoo> stupid server don't support any higher speeds
#365 [03:49] <Wahrheit> other than dynamap, which sucks
#366 [03:50] <Kealper> 2ms ping.....i'm going to go out on a limb and say that server hosting that speed test was in the same datacenter as the machine you ran the test on...lol
#367 [03:50] <DeeWoo> Kealper: nope, but it's close
#368 [03:50] <Kealper> Wahrheit: i don't use the ones that make the google maps things, they take too long, since they have to render each zoom level individually
#369 [03:51] <Wahrheit> Kealper: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/GnqXnAvoH7Ybn3UxcOnHwt2
#370 [03:51] <Wahrheit> something about taking too long?
#371 [03:52] <Wahrheit> found 101500 chunks so far
#372 [03:52] <Wahrheit> lol
#373 [03:52] <Kealper> that only has an i7?
#374 [03:52] <Kealper> that isn't 8 cores
#375 [03:52] <Wahrheit> 4 hyperthreaded
#376 [03:52] <Kealper> HT is garbage
#377 [03:53] <Kealper> and the reason i hate the google maps ones is because no one has made a good one
#378 [03:54] <Kealper> if someone made something as awesome as c10t for google maps, i'd use it
#379 [03:55] <Wahrheit> idgi why is c10t good
#380 [03:56] <Wahrheit> Found 114717 chunks in total
#381 [03:56] <Kealper> it's good beacuse it's stupid fast
#382 [03:56] <Wahrheit> run overnight
#383 [03:56] <Wahrheit> ?
#384 [03:57] <Kealper> overnight? it gets my 100mb map done in like 1-2 minutes :/
#385 [03:57] <Kealper> and that is for generating 4 different images
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#387 [03:57] <Wahrheit> in one image that doesn't zoom and stuff
#388 [03:57] <gothroach> I like c10t for its speed, pigmap for its speed and quality, and dynmap for its... Dynamic-ness.
#389 [03:58] * Kealper looks at dynmap
#389 [03:58] <Wahrheit> dynmap is so low quality though
#390 [03:58] <Wahrheit> it's only useful for assassinating people
#391 [03:58] <Kealper> i would love it if you could choose the level of detail on c10t
#392 [03:58] <gothroach> It's nice to use as a quick minimap.
#393 [03:58] <gothroach> But its quality does suck.
#394 [03:59] <Wahrheit> install minimap mod?
#395 [03:59] <Wahrheit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGy2F6fec3A&feature=player_embedded
#396 [03:59] <Wahrheit> B.o.B. song do want
#397 [03:59] <gothroach> I really like how pigmap uses the Minecraft texture png for rendering; makes it look the best of any of the map renderers I've seen.
#398 [04:00] <Wahrheit> I just set my Tectonicus to use the texture pack I endorse for my server
#399 [04:00] <Wahrheit> it's obviously not done rendering but I'm excited to see how it turns out
#400 [04:00] <Kimax> i have a Phenom II X6 1100T (3.3 GHz 6 Cores) :P
#401 [04:00] <Wahrheit> I got mine last christmas
#402 [04:00] <Wahrheit> as one of my presents
#403 [04:00] <Wahrheit> (the whole rig)
#404 [04:01] <Wahrheit> I hope I don't have to ask my host to manually delete the files of the old map render
#405 [04:01] <Wahrheit> that was embarassing lol
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#408 [04:07] <Wahrheit> okay, gonna go fall asleep playing pokemon
#409 [04:08] <Wahrheit> I will wake up and everything will be done, que concepta
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#414 [04:20] <Kealper> bah.... tectonicus is written in java
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#420 [04:37] <AkiTensai> How can I be sure I have no mods installed? (Minecraft is crashing for me just after login/updating)
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#422 [04:39] <Chr|s> AkiTensai: well did you install any mods?
#423 [04:40] <AkiTensai> Yes, I had. I don't remember which ones they were, as Minecraft hasn't worked for me in months.
#424 [04:44] <bread> Miclee:
#425 [04:44] <Chr|s> are you trying to connect to your own server or you trying to connect to someone else server?
#426 [04:44] <bread> <@EllieG> Miclee is a penis.
#427 [04:44] <bread> :3
#428 [04:44] <AkiTensai> Chr|s: After hitting login, it crashes. I don't even see the single/multiplayer menu.
#429 [04:44] <Chr|s> AkiTensai: ok then it has nothing to do with plugins
#430 [04:45] <Chr|s> does it give any kind of error?
#431 [04:45] <AkiTensai> Let me generate it. VS ask me if I want to debug the error
#432 [04:46] <Chr|s> vs?
#433 [04:47] <AkiTensai> An unhandled win32 exception occured in javaw.exe [3160] (also: http://www.paste-it.com/view/24070802 )
#434 [04:47] <AkiTensai> Visual Studio, an IDE
#435 [04:48] <Chr|s> AkiTensai: you starting up a serve or login into your minecraft client?
#436 [04:49] <AkiTensai> Client via both http://minecraft.net/game and minecraft.exe, both cause the same
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#439 [04:49] <Chr|s> hmm
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#441 [04:49] <Chr|s> GreyVulpine: may be able to help you, im not sure really
#442 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#444 [04:50] <Chr|s> AkiTensai How can I be sure I have no mods installed? (Minecraft is crashing for me just after lo
#445 [04:50] <AkiTensai> I'm not sure if the "Cache entry not found" rows for those two files are normal. Those two files do exist on my harddrive.
#446 [04:50] <Chr|s> If I understand right, AkiTensai is trying to login using the client and it crashes
#447 [04:50] <Chr|s> some java error
#448 [04:50] <Chr|s> http://www.paste-it.com/view/24070802
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#453 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
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#455 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> AkiTensai - Could you do this...
#456 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> ??> AkiTensai win/reinst
#457 [04:53] <VoxelHead> AkiTensai: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#458 [04:53] <VoxelHead> AkiTensai: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#460 [04:54] <Chr|s> thats what I was gonna do next, I don't know the commands to that bot :(
#461 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> just do ?? commands
#462 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> or ??>> Chr|s commands to get a pm
#463 [04:55] <AkiTensai> C:\Documents and Settings\Aki\Application Data\.minecraft\bin deleted (for the seventh time). Running Minecraft.
#464 [04:55] <Chr|s> ??>> commands
#465 [04:55] <Chr|s> ??>> Chr|s commands
#466 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> You need a 2nd argument between ??>> and commands to let the bot know who to notice
#467 [04:56] <AkiTensai> Login, Updates, just after finishing updates, it crashes.
#468 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I see..
#469 [04:57] <AkiTensai> Did the bot PM that text to me within the window? Normally another tab opens with PM related text.
#470 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> No.
#471 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Do you get an actual error report when it crashes?
#472 [04:59] <Chr|s> hmm
#473 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> I think espernet's having some problems
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#476 [05:00] <AkiTensai> GreyVulpine: http://leviwatts.com/MinecraftError.jpg </3 d/c's
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#478 [05:00] <mib_l6jznd> Hey quick question
#479 [05:00] <mib_l6jznd> anyone got a sec
#480 [05:01] <AkiTensai> mib_l6jznd: Ask away.
#481 [05:01] <Chr|s> what does that have to do with MC
#482 [05:01] <Chr|s> Visual Studio?
#483 [05:01] <Chr|s> mib_l6jznd: just ask the question :)
#484 [05:01] <AkiTensai> Its a crash. JIT is trying to handle it. I don't have the source code to MC, so it can't handle it correctly.
#485 [05:01] <mib_l6jznd> Just wondering since the price to purcahse is in Euros can I still make the purchase if all i have is USD tied to my credit card?
#486 [05:01] <AkiTensai> er... I can't see the spot that it is crashing at.
#487 [05:02] <Chr|s> mib_l6jznd: yes
#488 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_l6jznd - It converts automatically
#489 [05:02] <mib_l6jznd> sweet
#490 [05:02] <mib_l6jznd> just double checking
#491 [05:02] <mib_l6jznd> thanks
#492 [05:02] <AkiTensai> If it crashes from the site, I can get java console to have the info from the other link
#493 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, AkiTensai, This looks more like a problem with java itself, than minecraft.
#494 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Would probably be best to try uninstalling java completely, and reinstalling it from java's site
#495 [05:03] <AkiTensai> Which I've done twice (and can do again). Is this line normal? "network: Cache entry not found [url: file:/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Aki/Application%20Data/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar, version: null]"
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#497 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I believe it'll say that when it doesn't see those files there the first time around..
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#499 [05:06] <AkiTensai> These files are there, so Java doesn't have rights to see these files?
#500 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> I don't exactly know..
#501 [05:11] <Chr|s> AkiTensai: This is what I would do, uninstall/delete all instances of minecraft and java. Download and install CCleaner and run it and then reinstall java and then minecraft
#502 [05:11] <AkiTensai> Sounds like a worthy line of actions.
#503 [05:12] <Chr|s> Looks like Visual studio could be in the mist of problems too
#504 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Nah, if you install VS, it tries to help when programs crash with its JIT debugger
#505 [05:14] <Chr|s> AkiTensai: http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/ if you haven't already found it
#506 [05:14] <Chr|s> I see, then why is their so many instances popping up after he opened the game?
#507 [05:14] <Chr|s> I so many windows
#508 [05:15] <AkiTensai> That's because I moved the window, and the black screen isn't updating anymore, which shows what was last there. Same thing that happens in games that don't have an active skybox and no fog.
#509 [05:15] <Chr|s> ahh ok
#510 [05:15] <AkiTensai> http://osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/can-your-mac-do-this.jpg
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#513 [05:22] <Chr|s> #minecraft is going to hell
#514 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#515 [05:22] <Chr|s> channel isn't no help
#516 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Help for..
#517 [05:23] <Chr|s> garyc: uhhhh...okay, this is awesome, notch, i punch down a cactus at its halfway point, and the two blocks falls on the remaining block and...disappears?!?
#518 [05:23] <Chr|s> garyc: good job man way to make cactus destroy itself you fucking monkey coder
#519 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> That's kinda the default behavior of cactus, or other blocks that deal damage
#520 [05:23] <Chr|s> yeah
#521 [05:24] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#523 [05:46] <AkiTensai> Minecraft removed, Java dropped, CC ran. Installing Java now.
#524 [05:46] <Chr|s> :)
#525 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> You made sure that you've removed every instance of java from your program files
#526 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> as well as minecraft from %appdata%/.minecraft
#527 [05:48] <AkiTensai> Apparently didn't uninstall all of Java. It remembered that I asked for the console to open when java apps start.
#528 [05:49] <AkiTensai> This reinstall tutorial suggest using Revo Uninstaller. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial/Minecraft_Help_FAQ Any experience in it?
#529 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> Haven't used that.
#530 [05:51] <Chr|s> neither have I
#531 [05:51] <Chr|s> wait
#532 [05:51] <Chr|s> thats just an uninstaller
#533 [05:51] <Chr|s> ccleaner does the same thing
#534 [05:51] <Chr|s> should of had you do that, but it shouldn't matter really
#535 [05:55] <AkiTensai> Round two says JIT. Using Revo this time.
#536 [05:56] <Chr|s> hmm
#537 [05:56] <Chr|s> this is weird
#538 [05:57] <AkiTensai> >D I can use Revo to unistall Revo.
#539 [06:00] <AG_Scott> apt-get purge sun-java6-* ;)
#540 [06:00] <Chr|s> windows he is using I think
#541 [06:00] <AG_Scott> time2bed
#542 [06:00] <AG_Scott> 4bed even.
#543 [06:01] <AG_Scott> likely :P
#544 [06:01] <AG_Scott> byeee! have a good night/day/whatever
#545 [06:01] <Chr|s> same to you
#546 [06:01] <Chr|s> im heading there soon myself
#547 [06:04] <AkiTensai> No change.
#548 [06:05] <Chr|s> really now
#549 [06:05] <Chr|s> this is quite odd
#550 [06:05] <feenyx> AkiTensai: you can also use windows to install windows! :D
#551 [06:06] <AkiTensai> Take that back. minecraft.net/game/ doesn't have the app it appears.
#552 [06:06] <Chr|s> hmm
#553 [06:06] <AkiTensai> >D Reinstalling windows seems to be the only answer that might work at this point feenyx.
#554 [06:07] <AkiTensai> scratch that... closing/opening FF fixed that issue.
#555 [06:07] <feenyx> If at first you don't succeed, reboot and try again
#556 [06:08] <feenyx> that's a tried and tested mantra
#557 [06:08] <Chr|s> so it was firefox?
#558 [06:08] <AkiTensai> ...sry, fixed the issue of the game not existing. It loaded and crashed by open/closing.
#559 [06:09] <Chr|s> ahh ok
#560 [06:09] <AkiTensai> Haven't rebooted yet in this current cycle of fix-it-attempt
#561 [06:09] <Chr|s> I have faith!
#562 [06:09] <AkiTensai> I'm thinking VM might be a viable option >D
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#564 [06:10] <AkiTensai> ah, my VM was installed on a harddrive I don't have connected anymore... I'd have to make a new instance.
#565 [06:10] <Guest1390142250> hello there. Im new here. can somebody help me with payment?
#566 [06:10] <feenyx> Guest1390142250: I suggest emailing payment@mojang.com
#567 [06:10] <AkiTensai> Guest1390142250: We can't help you with money issues of Minecraft.
#568 [06:11] <Guest1390142250> I have a VISA electron debit card and I have 17euro on it. and it doesnt confirm my payment :S
#569 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean it doesn't confirm?
#570 [06:12] <Guest1390142250> Transaction error
#571 [06:12] <Guest1390142250> An error occured and your purchase was not completed
#572 [06:12] <Guest1390142250> Message from server: verification denied
#573 [06:13] <Guest1390142250> Message from server: verification denied
#574 [06:14] <feenyx> we don't work for VISA, so we can't really tell you why it was denied
#575 [06:14] <Chr|s> Guest1390142250: you didn't type the name, address and/or phone number tied to the card
#576 [06:14] <Guest1390142250> I did
#577 [06:14] <Chr|s> make sure you type everything correctly as on the card
#578 [06:14] <feenyx> another option would be to transfer said monies to a PayPal account, and then use that to pay for the game
#579 [06:14] <Guest1390142250> Im not a child, I have been using this card before
#580 [06:15] <Chr|s> Guest1390142250: You came here for help, I am offering help. Don't be an ass
#581 [06:15] <Guest1390142250> yes, Im doing that.. transfering money to paypal. but Im waiting for verification to be completed
#582 [06:15] <Chr|s> ahh
#583 [06:15] <Guest1390142250> no hard feelings m8
#584 [06:15] <Chr|s> from paypal? that takes a few days doesnt it?
#585 [06:15] <Guest1390142250> I think yes
#586 [06:15] <Chr|s> or is that checking account
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#588 [06:16] <Guest1390142250> that is more like: confirming my debit card so I can deposit to alertpay
#589 [06:17] <Guest1390142250> paypal*
#590 [06:17] <Guest1390142250> not alertpay
#591 [06:18] <Guest1390142250> hope everything will be fine
#592 [06:19] <Chr|s> it should be, just keep an eye on your email and paypal account
#593 [06:20] <Guest1390142250> I will
#594 [06:20] <Guest1390142250> but when I try to pay over paypal.. it says: PayPal could not validate the card
#595 [06:20] <Guest1390142250> why?
#596 [06:21] <Guest1390142250> Its a damn VISA electron debit card... it was working with alertpay.. and everything was ok..
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#598 [06:22] <Rustayne> morning
#599 [06:23] <Guest1390142250> morning
#600 [06:24] <Rustayne> Anyone knowledgeable about the java command line on?
#601 [06:24] <Rustayne> I need to redirect the .jar file to another drive when it launches my server, and got no idea what the syntax is for that.
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#605 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Rustayne - What do you mean?
#606 [06:30] <Rustayne> What i mean is that minecraft.jar is on my d drive, and when i launch it through the run box like suggested, it creates the world on my c drive, in system32
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#608 [06:30] <Rustayne> i want it to be in the same folder as the .jar file
#609 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, you can't change that with minecraft SP right now. There are a few ways around it, but it involves a bit of work.
#610 [06:31] <Rustayne> i am not sure what i need to do to force it to the d drive instead of my os drive
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#612 [06:31] <Rustayne> well it is for smp
#613 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> Oh, it saves it whereever you have the minecraft_server
#614 [06:31] <Guest1390142250> ok, tnx for your help. Hope to buy this game soon. cheers :)
#615 [06:31] <Rustayne> i wanted to give the server more memory, but it now saves it in system32
#616 [06:32] <Rustayne> it doesn't, the minecraft_server.jar file is on my d drive
#617 [06:32] <lukegb> Rustayne: err
#618 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> You sure?
#619 [06:32] <lukegb> Rustayne: launch it with a shortcut, not using run
#620 [06:32] <Rustayne> positive, i have it pointed there in the command box
#621 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you're using the run command..
#622 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that'll do it
#623 [06:33] <lukegb> Rustayne: use a shortcut, and change the starting directory :P
#624 [06:33] <thefran> Is there an official mc server of some sorts?
#625 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes thefran
#626 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> !server
#627 [06:33] <lukegb> (but it sux :<)
#628 [06:33] <thefran> !server
#629 [06:33] <thefran> huh
#630 [06:33] <Rustayne> alright, i'll give that a shot
#631 [06:33] <thefran> not what I meant
#632 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Unless you're talking about a mojang minecraft server.
#633 [06:33] <thefran> one I can connect to.
#634 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> No, there isn't an "official" one
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#636 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> If you want a server, check out
#637 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/server
#638 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#639 [06:34] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#640 [06:34] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#641 [06:34] <Rustayne> wonderful, thanks guys, that solved my problem
#642 [06:35] <thefran> So there's a crapload of private servers, like in ragnarok
#643 [06:35] <thefran> okay.jpg
#644 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Right now, yes.
#645 [06:35] <thefran> Not what I imagined, but that's fine too
#646 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> There's a nice Weekend of Minecraft event happening this weekend, fan-supported, with prizes.
#647 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> http://weekendofminecraft.net/
#648 [06:37] <lemon-rev> ty
#649 [06:38] <lemon-rev> 7 hours sweet, by that time i should be awake again for morning lol
#650 [06:38] <thefran> Seven hours?
#651 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> 7?
#652 [06:38] <thefran> GMT+?
#653 [06:38] <lemon-rev> for me at least yea
#654 [06:38] <lemon-rev> im aussie
#655 [06:38] <lemon-rev> 7:20 mins 54 sec
#656 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I think that countdown timer is programmed for local time
#657 [06:39] <lemon-rev> well your time at leas
#658 [06:39] <thefran> it's countdown timer
#659 [06:39] <thefran> how is it relevant to local time
#660 [06:39] <lemon-rev> its ment to be before the weekeend starts so should be roughly 12am at night unless they go via the day lol
#661 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Because not everybody goes by one time zone
#662 [06:40] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: says 18 hours for me
#663 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Exactly
#664 [06:40] <lukegb> Sooo
#665 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Look at the page source
#666 [06:40] <lukegb> Yeah, local time :P
#667 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> It's a javascript.. counting down to
#668 [06:40] <lukegb> I can't.
#669 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> TargetDate = "3/26/2011 5:00 AM";
#670 [06:40] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#670 [06:41] <lukegb> I'm on my phone. I'd have to download the page as a packed page :p
#671 [06:41] * GreyVulpine bahs and points up
#671 [06:41] <lukegb> I saw.
#672 [06:41] <lukegb> I wonder why they didn't specify the timezone.
#673 [06:41] <lukegb> :D
#674 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#675 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Didn't I add you to vop some time ago?
#676 [06:42] <lukegb> Apparently not.
#677 [06:42] * GreyVulpine pffts
#677 [06:42] <lukegb> Nope, not on there.
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#679 [06:43] <LoRDTrevor> hello?
#680 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#681 [06:43] <thefran> > TargetDate = "3/26/2011 5:00 AM";
#682 [06:43] <thefran> I palmface'd.
#683 [06:43] <thefran> Was that really necessary?
#684 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Apparently.
#685 [06:43] <thefran> You could do it simpler so that it would be correct =_=
#686 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Apparently the webmaster of that page rocks at javascript.. or something.
#687 [06:44] <thefran> anyway it'll be 6 A.M. for me apparently, seeing as Notch is somewhere in Scandinavia
#688 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> It isn't run by Notch.
#689 [06:44] <thefran> So it ain't official?
#690 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Not.. so much.
#691 [06:44] <thefran> What's with the merchandise and giftcodes?
#692 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Affiliates like thinkgeek and other sites have joined in to donate goods and other goodies
#693 [06:44] <thefran> and what's with all those random lists of servers?
#694 [06:45] <thefran> it's like they don't have a rating system
#695 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Probably either to donate goods, or they will be livestreaming feeds during the weekend as well
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#697 [06:46] <thefran> The game window is pitifully small
#698 [06:46] <thefran> especially for my 1920x1080 resolution
#699 [06:47] <thefran> any way to make it bigger?
#700 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> F11
#701 [06:47] <LoRDTrevor> f11
#702 [06:47] <lukegb> Or... click-and-drag the corner bigger :P
#703 [06:47] <L3on5k> Just made a server and need the 'code' to spawn item etc. Anyone remember the url for it?
#704 [06:47] <thefran> Not fullscreen
#705 [06:47] <thefran> well corner drag doesnt work for me
#706 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> /give player item id amount
#707 [06:47] <LoRDTrevor> lukegb: this guy <
#708 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#709 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> For the data values
#710 [06:48] <L3on5k> Thanks.
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#712 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Corner drag doesn't work?
#713 [06:48] <lukegb> LoRDTrevor: huh?
#714 [06:48] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: I swear it does, bottom right...
#715 [06:49] <LoRDTrevor> sorry didnt mean to ping ypu
#716 [06:49] <LoRDTrevor> you*
#717 [06:49] <LoRDTrevor> was agreeing with you
#718 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure it works as well
#719 [06:49] <lukegb> Maybe it only works at the modeselect screen
#720 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Erm, I'm pretty sure it works whenever.
#721 [06:49] <LoRDTrevor> does for me
#722 [06:50] <lukegb> Oh, okay then :P
#723 [06:50] <lukegb> Ohhhh, you were talking about thefran
#724 [06:50] <LoRDTrevor> yeah
#725 [06:50] <lukegb> Sorry, thought you meant it didn't work for you :P
#726 [06:50] <LoRDTrevor> ah
#727 [06:51] <LoRDTrevor> on minecraft im using a magenta/green anaglyph with red/cyan glasses. wonder why thats what worked the best
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#730 [06:59] <LoRDTrevor> back so soon?
#731 [07:00] <L3on5k> Hmmm. Are there a reason for the ground to respawn second after Ive digged it? How do I fix it :s
#732 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Move away from spawn or make yourself an op
#733 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> (spawn protection, protects blocks near the initial area)
#734 [07:01] <L3on5k> wow, thanks :)
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#736 [07:08] <thefran> ok so
#737 [07:08] <thefran> what can I actually do in this game
#738 [07:08] <thefran> i can punch flowers and get flowers
#739 [07:08] <thefran> i can punch chickens and get feathers
#740 [07:08] <thefran> i can punch sheeps and get wool
#741 [07:08] <thefran> what else can I do?
#742 [07:09] <thefran> where do I get metals or wood?
#743 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> !tutorial
#744 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> Also, the wiki is a great resource: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
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#749 [07:33] <SileoMortis> Anyone here having problems with changing skins through the website for multiplayer on Beta?
#750 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> What problems?
#751 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> The previewer is down on minecraft.net, it doesn't display a confirmation message, but the skin uploads fine.
#752 [07:35] <SileoMortis> Mine just won't do anything, I can choose a file, but when
#753 [07:35] <SileoMortis> I click upload
#754 [07:35] <SileoMortis> it flashes to a java error for 1/2 a second then goes back to the preferences page
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#756 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> You chose a file through your minecraft.net's profile page, right?
#757 [07:36] <SileoMortis> Yeh
#758 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> And when you re-launched minecraft, it didn't change?
#759 [07:36] <ScribbleJR> Hoe long will the minecraft forums be off for?
#760 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> We don't know ScribbleJR, I don't think any of us here are affiliated with the minecraft forums
#761 [07:37] <SileoMortis> Scribble its only a few minutes
#762 [07:37] <SileoMortis> I was in forums channel earlier, they said its just gonna be a few minutes
#763 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> "We're just re-arranging some forums, we'll be right back! Join #minecraftforums on esper.net if you have any questions."
#764 [07:37] <ScribbleJR> kk thanks, it has to go down JUST when i wanna download a new mod
#765 [07:38] <ScribbleJR> o greyvulpine AGAIN
#766 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#767 [07:38] <ScribbleJR> lolz
#768 [07:38] <ScribbleJR> um, the guy that wanted a flatland...
#769 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> You'd be surprised how many people pass through here with that request.
#770 [07:41] <ScribbleJR> ah...well nvm then :P
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#773 [08:09] <thefran> Flatland?
#774 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Completely flat map, people like it so they can build freely
#775 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> No hills, or trees in the way
#776 [08:11] <feenyx> no wood!
#777 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> /give
#778 [08:16] <thefran> meh
#779 [08:16] <thefran> I need a server where a beginner's life isn't hell.
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#781 [08:18] <LoRDTrevor> on those server the oldfags lives are hell...
#782 [08:18] <thefran> on all servers I tried yet wherever you connect everything's claimed like in a kilometers' raduis
#783 [08:18] <LoRDTrevor> yeah
#784 [08:18] <LoRDTrevor> people walk
#785 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> Thems what you get with a public server
#786 [08:18] <thefran> it's literally not possible to get anywhere within one daytime
#787 [08:19] <thefran> and i don't understand how to survive a night without shelter
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#789 [08:19] <LoRDTrevor> when im not on my server(strict as fuck you will be banned for beinng immature) i go to rule free ones
#790 [08:19] <thefran> I build a pillar out of dirt and sit there
#791 [08:19] <thefran> then spiders come
#792 [08:19] <thefran> Seriously, recommend me a server.
#793 [08:22] <maxampere> hi, i'm looking for someone who has a very good understanding of wirings and gatters to implement a 2-3way buttonswitch for my minecart-station
#794 [08:22] <LoRDTrevor> all the good server have lots of things built
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#796 [08:23] <LoRDTrevor> most people actually walk out a good 5 kilometers before building
#797 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that's not really a function of this channel... Many of us run a private server, are part of a private server, or just plain asleep/idle. Public servers are rife with potential griefers and horrid people.
#798 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> maxampere - What do you mean?
#799 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> A 2-3way buttonswitch?
#800 [08:25] <maxampere> 3 buttons switching 2 tracks into 3 directions with indicator-lights
#801 [08:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, um.
#802 [08:29] <GreyVulpine> Got a picture or something of the setup that you want to do? Or a server somewhere?
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#859 [08:47] <BrokenInfinity> Maybe some one here can help me I'm currenty unable to connect to my server the connection keeps timing out, any ideas?
#860 [08:47] <LoRDTrevor> the server has crashed
#861 [08:47] <LoRDTrevor> next question!
#862 [08:48] <BrokenInfinity> lol I didn't even think to check that. I better do that now. >_<
#863 [08:50] <BrokenInfinity> Thats a big negative server is still up.
#864 [08:50] <LoRDTrevor> restart it
#865 [08:51] <BrokenInfinity> That worked, all hail LoRDTrevor.
#866 [08:51] <LoRDTrevor> yw
#867 [08:51] <BrokenInfinity> Any way of stopping it happening again?
#868 [08:51] <LoRDTrevor> no
#869 [08:52] <LoRDTrevor> i can help you set it up to restart remotely though
#870 [08:53] <BrokenInfinity> If it crashes or on a set time?
#871 [08:53] <LoRDTrevor> http://www.autoitscript.com/forum/topic/125814-minecraft-administration-tool-remote-access-and-backups/
#872 [08:53] <LoRDTrevor> now when you get that set up contact me in some way
#873 [08:56] <BenAffleck> Can anyone help me get a list of mods needed in order to make a free build server with infinite blocks and a blank canvas?
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#877 [09:01] <Minecrafter> Hi
#878 [09:01] <Dewzero> hi
#879 [09:01] <Minecrafter> Can someone help me with MCedit?
#880 [09:01] <Dewzero> i dont know
#881 [09:01] <feenyx> ??> Minecrafter mods
#882 [09:01] <VoxelHead> Minecrafter: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#883 [09:01] <VoxelHead> Minecrafter: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#884 [09:02] <Dewzero> i'm not good with MCedit
#885 [09:06] <LoRDTrevor> k propably characters then
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#887 [09:08] <zemj> Hi
#888 [09:08] <zemj> Please help, in minecraft, I crafted portal, I tried to go in and then go out
#889 [09:08] <zemj> It teleported me from Neghter to somewhere else in normal world???
#890 [09:09] <thefran> How to use global chat in mc?
#891 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> Chat is the "T" key
#892 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> zemj - Travel via the nether is compressed, each block you move in the nether, is 8 times the distance in the real world.
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#894 [09:15] <zemj> t
#895 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that chat comment was for thefran.
#896 [09:16] <zemj> GreyVulpine: When I go to nether and then teleport back ... not the same portal?
#897 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Using the same portal?
#898 [09:16] <zemj> Yes
#899 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> And you're on the latest version? 1.3_01?
#900 [09:17] <zemj> Yes
#901 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. then it should be the same portal..
#902 [09:17] <zemj> I build portal in my base
#903 [09:17] <zemj> went to nether
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#905 [09:18] <zemj> then teleport back ... and I am in some other portal in somewhere I dont know
#906 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Ah, probably another portal that you built in the overworld. If there's two portals in the overworld close to each other, the game doesn't know which one to pick... so it does at random
#907 [09:19] <zemj> In my world I build only 1 portal
#908 [09:20] <zemj> Damn ... so I lost allmy stuff (diamonds) :-(
#909 [09:20] <zemj> Exist some position system? in minecraft
#910 [09:20] <zemj> ?
#911 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes, F3.
#912 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> Shows your coordinates.
#913 [09:22] <zemj> Thanks, Its a pitty, that I didnt know position of my base ... :-(
#914 [09:23] <zemj> Thanks GreyVulpine ;-) ... any idea how to find my base in unknow world??? :-D
#915 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Did you perhaps build near your spawn point?
#916 [09:24] <thefran> > Chat is the "T" key
#917 [09:24] <thefran> I know
#918 [09:24] <thefran> but
#919 [09:24] <zemj> Yes
#920 [09:25] <thefran> people talk in global all the time
#921 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> "global"?
#922 [09:25] <thefran> yet when I type something, I get "no one can hear you" messagr
#923 [09:25] <zemj> Nice Idea, but I lose all stuff I have now
#924 [09:25] <thefran> *message
#925 [09:25] <thefran> you know, my text is yellow
#926 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> zemj, then, you can either construct a compass to point to the spawn point.
#927 [09:25] <thefran> other people's is white
#928 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> thefran, then, that server is using a modded server, and I don't know..
#929 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> Try /help
#930 [09:26] <thefran> doesnt work
#931 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> zemj, or type /kill to suicide and respawn back to your original starting point
#932 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> thefran - Got a name of this server?
#933 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> or an ip?
#934 [09:26] <zemj> thanks
#935 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> thefran - Still there?
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#937 [09:31] <zemj> @GreyVulpine: Thanks ... I lost my stuff with me, but my base is saved ... There is one more portal on map from generating ... so that was the problem
#938 [09:31] <ronjn> is there an easy and legit way to get lots of gunpwoder on a smp server?
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#940 [09:32] <mr_sticky> guys does anyone but me have problems with minecraft randomly going black and then can't do anything but close it ?
#941 [09:32] <greyeagle> yes actually I do
#942 [09:33] <zemj> mr_sticky: me too
#943 [09:33] <greyeagle> just started a week or so ago
#944 [09:33] <mr_sticky> so there is no answer to the problem yet ?
#945 [09:33] <greyeagle> not that I can find
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#947 [09:34] <greyeagle> just started doing that out of the blue, I've never had trouble before
#948 [09:34] <mr_sticky> yea same here. kinda anoying :/
#949 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> ronjn - Not really, unless you're the server owner
#950 [09:35] <ronjn> i am
#951 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> then /give playername item id number
#952 [09:35] <ronjn> but we're trying to keep it real :x
#953 [09:35] <ronjn> no cheating :P
#954 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Then farm for creepers, or look for dungeons
#955 [09:35] <mr_sticky> you could make a mob trap
#956 [09:35] <ronjn> are there creeper spawner?
#957 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> In dungeons, sure.
#958 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> It's random though.
#959 [09:36] <MillCzarr> No such thing as creepers spawns
#960 [09:36] <MillCzarr> they spawn in random places.
#961 [09:36] <ronjn> hm, k
#962 [09:36] <ronjn> so a trap would be the best way...
#963 [09:36] <MillCzarr> Dungeons are only have zombies and skeletons in them.
#964 [09:37] <MillCzarr> yeh
#965 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Ah, you're right.. and spiders
#966 [09:37] <MillCzarr> Well, creepers like to spawn in trees oddly.
#967 [09:37] <MillCzarr> So a forest is a good place for creeper trapping.
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#969 [09:38] <ronjn> ok, i'll try that..thx
#970 [09:38] <MillCzarr> welcome.
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#972 [09:39] <zero_kanipan> hi
#973 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#974 [09:39] <zero_kanipan> i got a question
#975 [09:39] <MillCzarr> My bro, was in a forst yesterday on EASY, and there was creepers jumping down from trees, blowing him up, while he was walking.
#976 [09:39] <MillCzarr> one right after the other.
#977 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> MillCzarr - It only does that on SMP, or SP if he's got graphics set to fast
#978 [09:39] <MillCzarr> so its an idea that they spawn in trees.
#979 [09:39] <zero_kanipan> aside from turning down the view distance and the other video settings, are there other ways i can improve my framerate
#980 [09:40] <MillCzarr> No? My bro was on Singleplayer?
#981 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Get a better computer, or wait for minecraft to optimize better
#982 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> I'm fairly sure mobs don't spawn on transparent leaf blocks.
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#984 [09:40] <thefran> Oh screw me
#985 [09:41] <MillCzarr> Well I don't know, it seems I have the most problems with creepers while in a forst.
#986 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> And leaf blocks turn opaque when graphics are turned to fast instead of fancy on SP
#987 [09:41] <thefran> I've set up a shelter with a furnace and stuff
#988 [09:41] <thefran> then accidentally typed spawn
#989 [09:41] <MillCzarr> Cuz I even see them jump down, while I walk past the tree.
#990 [09:41] <thefran> and now I can find it =_=
#991 [09:41] <thefran> *cant
#992 [09:41] <LRWerewolf> thefran: Sounds like you were still in your early phases. Just rebuild?
#993 [09:41] <zero_kanipan> are the default textures 16bit or 32bit?
#994 [09:41] <MillCzarr> 16.
#995 [09:42] <zero_kanipan> ok thanks
#996 [09:43] <LRWerewolf> Wait... 16 bit? Thought they were 32b (don't a few support alpha?) and 16pix x 16pix.
#997 [09:44] <MillCzarr> 32 pix, supports in Beta... I'm pretty sure.
#998 [09:44] <MillCzarr> The higher ones have to be loaded with a Mod
#999 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> The default texture pack is 16x16 pixels
#1000 [09:44] <zero_kanipan> so 32bit 16x16 pixel textures
#1001 [09:44] <MillCzarr> Yeah, but I think minecraft supports 32.
#1002 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't believe so
#1003 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> Not without a mod
#1004 [09:45] <MillCzarr> Hmmm
#1005 [09:45] <zero_kanipan> hmm...so my last bet is to find 16bit textures, see if that improves the frame rate
#1006 [09:45] <MillCzarr> Egh, your right.
#1007 [09:45] <MillCzarr> Well zero, no texture packs really improve framerate. All its doing is loading an image.
#1008 [09:46] <MillCzarr> If its gonna even load just 1 color, it will do the same load as default.
#1009 [09:46] <zero_kanipan> but lower res textures should load quicker
#1010 [09:46] <MillCzarr> Just a singe.
#1011 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> The difference is insignificant.
#1012 [09:47] <MillCzarr> Not that much to put an impact.
#1013 [09:47] <zero_kanipan> its worth a try at the moment
#1014 [09:47] <MillCzarr> Alright.
#1015 [09:47] <zero_kanipan> whats the video card requirement for the game anyway? cant find it on the main page, and the boards are down.
#1016 [09:49] <MillCzarr> Forgot to tell you, linux OS is 5x more faster than Windows.
#1017 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Minimum requirement is a video card that supports the OpenGL 1.3 standard, but you won't be running well with that
#1018 [09:49] <MillCzarr> You can install it side-by-side of windows.
#1019 [09:50] <xolotl> zero_kanipan: No, you don't want to try and find a "16 bit texture"
#1020 [09:50] <xolotl> zero_kanipan: The default texture from Minecraft is as basic as you can get
#1021 [09:50] <MillCzarr> No, theres lower.
#1022 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> It still uses 16x16 pixel textures.
#1023 [09:51] <thefran> How can send a private message to a player?
#1024 [09:51] <thefran> *I
#1025 [09:51] <xolotl> zero_kanipan: When Minecraft loads a texture, it requires a 32-bit image
#1026 [09:51] <MillCzarr> no 16.
#1027 [09:51] <MillCzarr> Your wrong.
#1028 [09:51] <xolotl> zero_kanipan: If you do somehow convince it to load something less, it will be converted to 32-bit
#1029 [09:51] <zero_kanipan> how do i check for openGL 1.3 support on my card
#1030 [09:51] <xolotl> Because that is the format of the internal texture
#1031 [09:52] <xolotl> MillCzarr: The OpenGL texture itself is 32-bit. If you can convince it to load something lower, you're requiring it to do a conversion
#1032 [09:52] <xolotl> MillCzarr: Which would actually require MORE processing, not less
#1033 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> MillCzarr - There's a difference between a 32-bit image, and a 16x16 pixel texture.
#1034 [09:52] <xolotl> Also that ^
#1035 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> One is color depth, one is just measuring number of pixels
#1036 [09:53] <MillCzarr> Well you guys totally went off, I thought we were still on that image talk...
#1037 [09:54] <zero_kanipan> how do i check if my card supports openGL 1.3?
#1038 [09:54] <zero_kanipan> dxdiag shows nothing on it (obviously XD )
#1039 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't?
#1040 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> What does dxdiag show you your video card is?
#1041 [09:54] <GreyVulpine> You usually have to dig out video card specs from that
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#1043 [09:54] <zero_kanipan> geforce 9300m gs
#1044 [09:55] <zero_kanipan> googling now
#1045 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> That should support minecraft just fine
#1046 [09:56] <zero_kanipan> the framerate drops when i chose a view distance higher than tiny
#1047 [09:56] <zero_kanipan> im already on fast graphics, and no smooth lighting
#1048 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1049 [09:57] * Cyberstorm[Work] waves to GreyVulpine
#1049 [09:57] * GreyVulpine waves
#1049 [09:57] <MillCzarr> My windows was like that...
#1050 [09:58] <MillCzarr> slow as crap.
#1051 [09:58] <MillCzarr> It had decent specs also.
#1052 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> I mean, I've got a laptop here, that's running an ATI card that's a few generations older than what your nvidia card is
#1053 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> And it runs minecraft just fine
#1054 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> So, other culprits, RAM? CPU?\
#1055 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> How much, and how fast.
#1056 [10:00] <zero_kanipan> 3gb, intel core 2 duo 2.0ghz
#1057 [10:01] <xolotl> And perhaps doublecheck that you're note, like, running A/V checks actively in the background, or distributed processing apps like seti@home or folding@home or whatever (do those still exist?)
#1058 [10:01] <xolotl> s/note/not/
#1059 [10:01] <zero_kanipan> i only have avast in the background, nothing else
#1060 [10:02] <zero_kanipan> hmm, i tried the classic version in browser and no slowdowns there
#1061 [10:03] <zero_kanipan> is there a way to make beta run with the textures like the one in classic
#1062 [10:04] <xolotl> zero_kanipan: Textures are not your issue
#1063 [10:05] <xolotl> zero_kanipan: Classic shares very little code with Beta
#1064 [10:05] <xolotl> (if any, at this point)
#1065 [10:05] <zero_kanipan> last i played was ver 1.2 something it ran smoothly
#1066 [10:05] <xolotl> zero_kanipan: How about the browser version of Beta?
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#1068 [10:05] <xolotl> zero_kanipan: k, so clearly it's not the textures then. Some code changed between 1.2 and 1.3 which is causing slowdowns for you
#1069 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> Then, most likely, I'd blame 1.3 itself. It's gotten some major code revisions to it.
#1070 [10:06] <zero_kanipan> textures look different from 1.2 and 1.3 tho
#1071 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> I'd just wait for 1.4 that'll come out next week.
#1072 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> Not really, the textures are pretty much the same, a few additions to a few blocks...
#1073 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> And the smooth lighting stuff.
#1074 [10:07] <xolotl> zero_kanipan: The texture format has not changed, for a long time now.
#1075 [10:08] <zero_kanipan> beta in browser, graphics: fast, render distance: short, no smooth lighting
#1076 [10:08] <zero_kanipan> beach areas: 26 fps (which is good)
#1077 [10:08] <zero_kanipan> when loading chunks: drops to around 10
#1078 [10:09] <xolotl> I think everyone experiences some slowdowns while chunks are loading/generating
#1079 [10:09] * GreyVulpine nods
#1079 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> 1.3 is in no way a bug-free release. Mojang added a new file format, as well as smooth lighting, and whoever knows what else in there.
#1080 [10:10] <zero_kanipan> went down to 10~15fps when inland, with trees
#1081 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Much of that has accounted for new problems for users in loading chunks, chatting online, and just general gameplay 'lag'
#1082 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> All you can really do at this point, is to wait for the next release.
#1083 [10:12] <zero_kanipan> hmm odd
#1084 [10:12] <zero_kanipan> its now up to 34fps
#1085 [10:13] <zero_kanipan> heck 80+
#1086 [10:13] <zero_kanipan> hmm..maybe its just the game loading everything that makes the fps drop
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#1089 [10:14] * GreyVulpine blinks
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#1090 [10:15] <helpmenao> can anyone give me a link to download MCEdit Alpha 94?
#1091 [10:15] <zero_kanipan> and dropped again when i moved again
#1092 [10:15] <helpmenao> forum is down so i can't download it from there
#1093 [10:16] <xolotl> 94? Latest I had was 85
#1094 [10:16] * xolotl might be behind the times, apparently.
#1094 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> helpmenao - What OS?
#1095 [10:16] <helpmenao> can anyone give me a link to download MCEdit Alpha any version
#1096 [10:16] <xolotl> heh
#1097 [10:16] <helpmenao> windows
#1098 [10:16] <helpmenao> :D
#1099 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> 32, 64 bit?
#1100 [10:16] <helpmenao> 32
#1101 [10:16] <zero_kanipan> imma try and test some more, hopefully its really just chunks loading thats prolly making the fps drop
#1102 [10:16] <xolotl> helpmenao: Just a sec (unless GreyVulpine beats me)
#1103 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/MCEdit-alpha94-win32-setup.exe
#1104 [10:17] <zero_kanipan> thanks for all the help
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#1106 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/MCEdit-alpha94-32bit-win32.zip
#1107 [10:17] <helpmenao> i need to make a monster spawner nao! :D and i'm not diging a holl
#1108 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Take your pick
#1109 [10:17] <helpmenao> ty grey i love you....
#1110 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> First one is the installer, second is the zip
#1111 [10:17] <helpmenao> ye thx thx thx
#1112 [10:17] <helpmenao> :*********
#1113 [10:17] <Ian2400> hey so mincraft is constantly crashing for me. tried running in XPSP2 compatibility mode and updated my graphics driver, still no luck
#1114 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> Got any error reports Ian2400?
#1115 [10:18] <Ian2400> no it just goes black and i'm forced to end process
#1116 [10:18] * xolotl wishes MCEdit would just go open-source at github already
#1116 [10:18] <Ian2400> unless it spits it out somewhere i'm not aware of
#1117 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> Usually in the same directory where you launched minecraft from
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#1119 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> Or was it .minecraft
#1120 [10:19] <Ian2400> nothin.
#1121 [10:19] <Ian2400> the only thing in the directory i have minecraft in is minecraft.exe
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#1123 [10:20] <Jakey_Jake> Hi
#1124 [10:20] <Jakey_Jake> I need help of finding an tutorial of how to make an beta server!.
#1125 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Usual culprits, java (completely uninstall and reinstall), minecraft itself (delete .minecraft/bin and have it redownload), video drivers (update..)
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#1127 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Jakey_Jake,
#1128 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1129 [10:20] <Jakey_Jake> ?
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#1131 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Then, port forward 25565/TCP as necessary, configure firewall(s), and you should be all set
#1132 [10:21] <Jakey_Jake> Not the old one
#1133 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> That's not the old oen
#1134 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> one*
#1135 [10:21] <Jakey_Jake> U got msn?
#1136 [10:21] <Jakey_Jake> Or something?
#1137 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1138 [10:21] <Ian2400> i had just updated java and it ran for hours the other day. where is this minecraft/bin?
#1139 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Ian2400 - What OS?
#1140 [10:21] <Ian2400> windows 7
#1141 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Press your windows+R key, then in the run command, type %appdata%
#1142 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Look for the .minecraft folder
#1143 [10:22] <Jakey_Jake> Grey!, i downloaded it, now what to do?
#1144 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Jakey_Jake - Run it?
#1145 [10:22] <Jakey_Jake> i have, !!
#1146 [10:22] <Jakey_Jake> but what now?
#1147 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> To verify you've got it running fine, using your client, connect via the multiplayer option, to 127.0.0.1
#1148 [10:22] <Ian2400> hmm its asking me to open with.
#1149 [10:23] <Ian2400> shouldnt it just open with windows explorer
#1150 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> It.. should..
#1151 [10:23] <Jakey_Jake> Dude, What numbers to port forward again?
#1152 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> 25565/TCP
#1153 [10:23] <xolotl> Jakey_Jake: Scroll up just a bit
#1154 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> You're using "%appdata%" in the run command, right Ian2400?
#1155 [10:24] <Ian2400> yep
#1156 [10:24] <Ian2400> odd that it doesnt know how to open that
#1157 [10:24] <Jakey_Jake> Grey, what was the url to get to the moden?, it was 10.0. what?
#1158 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the modem.
#1159 [10:24] <Jakey_Jake> Just give me the normal
#1160 [10:24] <Jakey_Jake> 10.0.
#1161 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> 10.0.0.1?
#1162 [10:24] <Jakey_Jake> ok
#1163 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Ian2400 - Then, go to your c drive, go to users/yourname/appdata/roaming
#1164 [10:25] <Jakey_Jake> Got it
#1165 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Really strange that path isn't recognized in your windows
#1166 [10:25] <Ian2400> oh grey you don't need the % in windows 7 apparently
#1167 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1168 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Well, okay then.
#1169 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> You did, in everything up to vista..
#1170 [10:26] <Ian2400> just delete the whole bin folder?
#1171 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Actually, try deleting everything but your saves folder.
#1172 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Next time minecraft launches, it'll redownload fresh files.
#1173 [10:27] <Jakey_Jake> Grey, start port whats number of tht?
#1174 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565
#1175 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> One port
#1176 [10:27] <Jakey_Jake> Ok, but my server ip!
#1177 [10:27] <Ian2400> ok, i'll let you know in a few min if it has crashed or not :D
#1178 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Is found via your computer.
#1179 [10:27] <Jakey_Jake> Ok..
#1180 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> What operating system exactly are you running?
#1181 [10:28] <Ian2400> oh for christs sake
#1182 [10:28] <Ian2400> it spawned me undergrounds
#1183 [10:28] <Jakey_Jake> Service name?
#1184 [10:28] <Jakey_Jake> LOL
#1185 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Service name.. can be anything you want it to be
#1186 [10:28] <Ian2400> luckily i dont think i had all that much on me...
#1187 [10:28] <Jakey_Jake> Like minecraft server
#1188 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't make a bit of difference to the modem
#1189 [10:28] <Jakey_Jake> Shoud i press active?
#1190 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1191 [10:28] <Jakey_Jake> ok
#1192 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Do you know your computer's IP?
#1193 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> The one hosting the server?
#1194 [10:29] <Jakey_Jake> Ipchicken.com
#1195 [10:29] <Jakey_Jake> i found it there
#1196 [10:29] <Jakey_Jake> :P
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#1198 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> That's not the IP you port forward to
#1199 [10:29] <Jakey_Jake> Oh..
#1200 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> That IP is the public IP
#1201 [10:29] <Jakey_Jake> what ip then?
#1202 [10:29] <Daniel> Ohsnapple. :)
#1203 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you running?
#1204 [10:30] <Jakey_Jake> W8
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#1206 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#1207 [10:30] <Jakey_Jake> Zykel !
#1208 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Zyxel is your modem's brand
#1209 [10:30] <Jakey_Jake> LOL
#1210 [10:30] <Jakey_Jake> Im an nuub in this
#1211 [10:30] <Jakey_Jake> t:P
#1212 [10:30] <Jakey_Jake> :P*
#1213 [10:30] <Jakey_Jake> What u mean whit operating?
#1214 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Are you on a PC, mac...?
#1215 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#1216 [10:31] <Jakey_Jake> Im on acwer
#1217 [10:31] <Jakey_Jake> acer
#1218 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Windows then.
#1219 [10:31] <Jakey_Jake> Windows 7
#1220 [10:31] <Jakey_Jake> Grey, where do i find my hosted ip adress?
#1221 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Okay. On your keyboard, in the lower left corner, press the key that has the windows logo on it, hold it down, and press the R key at the same time
#1222 [10:31] <Ian2400> ok seems to be working now. can't find my shelter for shit so i'm gonna restart but should be ok now :D
#1223 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> That'll bring up the run command, there, type: cmd
#1224 [10:32] <Ian2400> thanks for the help
#1225 [10:32] <Jakey_Jake> ok
#1226 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> A black command prompt should pop up then.
#1227 [10:32] <Jakey_Jake> then ipconfig?
#1228 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Then ipconfig, yes
#1229 [10:32] <Jakey_Jake> i kno cmd :D
#1230 [10:32] <Jakey_Jake> ok now what?
#1231 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> What is the ipv4 address there
#1232 [10:32] <Jakey_Jake> 10.0.0.2
#1233 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> That'll be the ip you port forward to
#1234 [10:32] <Jakey_Jake> ok
#1235 [10:33] <Jakey_Jake> Fixed, now what?
#1236 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Got any firewall(s), or security software installed on the computer running the MC server?
#1237 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps windows firewall is still enabled on your computer?
#1238 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> If it is, you'll want to either turn it off, or configure it to let port 25565 through
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#1241 [10:39] <Jakey_Jake> dude, u there?
#1242 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1243 [10:39] <Jakey_Jake> my firewall is off it says
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#1245 [10:39] <Jakey_Jake> What to do now?
#1246 [10:39] <Ironikk> Hey anyone willing to help me ?
#1247 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Alright then, have somebody connect via your public IP address
#1248 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> The one you found at ipchicken.com
#1249 [10:40] <Jakey_Jake> Ok..
#1250 [10:40] <Jakey_Jake> Grey, can u try?
#1251 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Ironikk - With?
#1252 [10:40] <Ironikk> Ive made a Animal spawner and the animals are not spawning The spawner is over water and it has grass light and water but there not spawning ?
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#1255 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> The spawner is over water?
#1256 [10:41] <Ironikk> yes
#1257 [10:42] <Ironikk> Like It's Built over water becuase someone told me it's the best way to get them spawning
#1258 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> I'm.. not sure that'll work.
#1259 [10:42] <Jakey_Jake> They spawn underwater xD
#1260 [10:42] <Ironikk> why will it not work ??
#1261 [10:42] <Jakey_Jake> Grey, can u try the ip of the server?
#1262 [10:43] <Ironikk> Jakey, are you trying to make a server ?
#1263 [10:43] <Jakey_Jake> yes :/
#1264 [10:43] <Ironikk> are you stuck ?
#1265 [10:43] <Jakey_Jake> nope
#1266 [10:43] <Jakey_Jake> it worked
#1267 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Jakey_Jake - Sec..
#1268 [10:43] <Ironikk> Ok, just wondering i would of helped ya :)
#1269 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> 85.166.12.62 ?
#1270 [10:44] <Jakey_Jake> yes grey
#1271 [10:44] <Jakey_Jake> but it laggs :/
#1272 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't seem to want to connect
#1273 [10:44] <Jakey_Jake> i think
#1274 [10:44] <Ironikk> May i try to connect ?
#1275 [10:44] <Jakey_Jake> yes
#1276 [10:44] <Jakey_Jake> ip is
#1277 [10:44] <Jakey_Jake> 85.166.12.62
#1278 [10:44] <Ironikk> OMG THE ANIMALS ARE SPAWNING!!
#1279 [10:44] <Ironikk> OMG!!!
#1280 [10:44] <Ironikk> ok
#1281 [10:44] <Ironikk> ill try now
#1282 [10:44] <Jakey_Jake> :D
#1283 [10:45] <Ironikk> Nope don't work
#1284 [10:45] <Ironikk> What server you using ?
#1285 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Hosted on a home connection
#1286 [10:45] <Jakey_Jake> but, why wont it work for u guys?
#1287 [10:45] <Ironikk> Make sure you've port forwarded.
#1288 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. are you sure you've disabled all the firewalls on your computer?
#1289 [10:45] <Jakey_Jake> yes!
#1290 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> He's port forwarded already.
#1291 [10:46] <Ironikk> ok, but check if the port is open www.canyouseeme.org
#1292 [10:46] <Jakey_Jake> Greyvulpine idk how to turn of all but it says the firewall was off
#1293 [10:46] <Ironikk> ifs its not open then something blocking it
#1294 [10:47] <Jakey_Jake> its not open :(((
#1295 [10:47] <Ironikk> So you've not portforwarded propperly.
#1296 [10:47] <Ironikk> Sorry, got really bad grammer lol :(
#1297 [10:47] <Jakey_Jake> Dude, im from norway my grammar is badder
#1298 [10:47] <Jakey_Jake> LOL
#1299 [10:47] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1299 [10:47] <Ironikk> Lol but im from the uk
#1300 [10:48] <Ironikk> Ok, what network are you on like Virgin Media , Bt ?
#1301 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Looks like "Telenor Networks AS"
#1302 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't matter
#1303 [10:48] <Jakey_Jake> it is telenor
#1304 [10:49] <Ironikk> I dont it dosent matter, i was just asking what network he's on, ok what router do you have ?
#1305 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> In the Zyxel modem setup, you defined a minecraft service, using port 25565-25565, TCP protocol, right?
#1306 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Zyxel modem Ironikk
#1307 [10:49] <Jakey_Jake> ZyKeL
#1308 [10:50] <Ironikk> Ok, Jakey i could help you over remote assist if you wan't its really up to you. but i can help
#1309 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> You then, defined a port forward using the minecraft service, to port forward to 10.0.0.2
#1310 [10:50] <Jakey_Jake> Ironikk ok
#1311 [10:50] <Jakey_Jake> Greyvulpine i did
#1312 [10:50] <Ironikk> Ok teamviewer ?
#1313 [10:50] <Jakey_Jake> Have to download brb
#1314 [10:50] <Ironikk> ok
#1315 [10:51] <Jakey_Jake> u got Tw 6?
#1316 [10:51] <Ironikk> ye
#1317 [10:51] <Jakey_Jake> ok im downloading
#1318 [10:51] <Jakey_Jake> I got an pc from norway :/
#1319 [10:52] <Jakey_Jake> maybe hard to understand
#1320 [10:52] <Jakey_Jake> ok
#1321 [10:52] <Ironikk> is
#1322 [10:52] <Jakey_Jake> id: 559 743 831
#1323 [10:52] <Jakey_Jake> code: 8931
#1324 [10:53] * GreyVulpine winces.
#1324 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Next time, don't give that out in a public channel..
#1325 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Use /msg to PM somebody with that
#1326 [10:53] <Jakey_Jake> OK
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#1330 [11:00] <trolol> hi
#1331 [11:00] <trolol> i have been request minecraft refund like 6 days and nobody have been re emailed
#1332 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Did you email payment@mojang.com?
#1333 [11:01] <trolol> ye
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#1335 [11:01] <trolol> but they just send me shometing like this = "your request have been recevied by our support stuff"
#1336 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Then all you can do is wait, Mojang gets quite a number of emails daily.
#1337 [11:02] <Evilpoptart> Is the paypal option down for minecraft?
#1338 [11:02] <trolol> but tomorrow is week ago when i buyed the game
#1339 [11:02] <trolol> and i have to request refund whitin week
#1340 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> It's alright trolol, if you sent off the email since then, I'm sure Mojang will still honor it
#1341 [11:04] <Evilpoptart> Any idea when the paypal option will be functional again?
#1342 [11:04] <trolol> i have been sended lot of emails of them and im wondering if they blocked my email and the messages didint came to them?
#1343 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> trolol - They get a ton of emails, just be patient
#1344 [11:04] <trolol> yes i know
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#1346 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> Evilpoptart - Looks like paypal is working
#1347 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> I don't see a problem with it
#1348 [11:05] <Evilpoptart> When ever I click it says there was an error
#1349 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#1350 [11:06] <Evilpoptart> screen comes up say woah somethings seems to have gone wrong, check back later
#1351 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Strange, works fine on my end
#1352 [11:07] <trolol> can i get the money back IF i dont have paypal account but paypal transaction Id?
#1353 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes trolol
#1354 [11:07] <trolol> ok
#1355 [11:08] <Evilpoptart> I am signed in and trying to purchase a gift code at this point for a friend. Kinda difficult when its giving me that error, ive tried multiple browsers, 2 computers and cleared cache and cookies
#1356 [11:08] <Evilpoptart> Same error each time
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#1358 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Aaah, gift code, yeah, now I'm getting that error
#1359 [11:10] <Evilpoptart> I apologize I wasn't specific enough :)
#1360 [11:11] <Evilpoptart> Are they still having troubles with the gift codes?
#1361 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Hey, you sound familiar, you use that nick often?
#1362 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, this is the first time I've seen a problem with buying gift codes.
#1363 [11:12] <Evilpoptart> I do actually. It is my ingame name for minecraft and afew other games I play
#1364 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Happen to have a friend by the name of "Mongo"?
#1365 [11:12] <Evilpoptart> Sorry I do not
#1366 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry then, I have you confused with somebody else I used to know who had that same name.
#1367 [11:13] <Evilpoptart> Here I thought it was a unique name, guess not :P
#1368 [11:14] <Evilpoptart> Is the Mojang team aware that the gift codes are down?
#1369 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> If they aren't, they will be.
#1370 [11:15] <Evilpoptart> Ah excellent. Hoping to purchase yet another copy so they can enjoy the game as much as I have.
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#1372 [11:16] <r4wrz0rz0r> i need some help please
#1373 [11:16] <r4wrz0rz0r> i was trying to take a screenshot when my game started flashing green randomly
#1374 [11:17] <r4wrz0rz0r> it looks like it's flashing random blocks now
#1375 [11:18] <r4wrz0rz0r> ok nvm
#1376 [11:18] <Evilpoptart> Thanks for you help Grey, If you could pass along the message that gift codes are having trouble that would be much appreciated.
#1377 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> I have, thanks Evilpoptart.
#1378 [11:18] <r4wrz0rz0r> i accidentally did isometric screenshot
#1379 [11:19] <Evilpoptart> Thanks, have a nice day. ;)
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#1382 [11:23] <Wils0> Hello everyone can anyone help me with a wireless LAN problem?
#1383 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1384 [11:24] <Wils0> A friend and I are trying to play SMP through an ad-hoc network. Is this possible and how do I set it up so one of us can connect to the other?
#1385 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, are you both able to connect to the internet?
#1386 [11:25] <Ironikk> There are lots of guides, use google.
#1387 [11:25] <Ironikk> Lol grey :D
#1388 [11:25] <Jakey_Jake> Ironikk, i cant :/
#1389 [11:25] <Wils0> If this is a bit too much typing for IRC I have a thread here -> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=242406&p=3440422#p3440422
#1390 [11:25] <Ironikk> :o forums back up lol
#1391 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Wils0 - How are either of you trying to connect to the other one? Just via internal IP?
#1392 [11:26] <Wils0> Yes grey but is it possible if we don't? Our computer have no problem connecting to each other we just need a world to connect to. :P
#1393 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any firewall(s) installed on the computer running the MC server?
#1394 [11:26] <Wils0> Wi-Fi
#1395 [11:26] <xolotl> Wils0: You're going to have problems if you're unable to authenticate to the master Minecraft servers
#1396 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> The way that the MC server is setup by default, it needs an internet connection to authenticate
#1397 [11:27] <Wils0> Ah so it doesn't really need to be a good connection?
#1398 [11:27] <Ironikk> I'm not sure if you're even going to be able to host a server with wi-fi ? or am i wrong ?
#1399 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> You can Ironikk.
#1400 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Not advised, but possible.
#1401 [11:28] <xolotl> Oh sure you can. Hell, I can stream DVDs over wifi; Minecraft is certainly possible over it
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#1403 [11:28] <Wils0> Ok I will comb through google and find how to set up a server locally and then should be smooth (er) sailing from there?
#1404 [11:28] <xolotl> Latency might not be the greatest, of course, but still.
#1405 [11:28] <Ironikk> Also if you're really dieing for a server you're best bet is to get £20/$20 and get a vps...
#1406 [11:29] <cliff101> nodrop plugin not working for me?
#1407 [11:29] <Ironikk> you want to set-up a server local ?
#1408 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit cliff101
#1409 [11:29] <Ironikk> Lol run the server and use the ip 127.0.0.1
#1410 [11:29] <cliff101> k
#1411 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Ironikk - The problem isn't connecting locally..
#1412 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> It's connecting via the other computer, over an ad-hoc network
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#1414 [11:29] <Ironikk> But he just said he wanted to play local
#1415 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> local, meaning over LAN
#1416 [11:29] <Ironikk> Ok XD
#1417 [11:29] <Ironikk> :D
#1418 [11:30] <Ironikk> ad-hoc what is that ?>
#1419 [11:30] <Wils0> My friend could connect easily but the problem is there is nothing to connect to.
#1420 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Ironikk - in this case, computer to computer.
#1421 [11:30] <Wils0> Ad-hoc is wireless computer to computer networking
#1422 [11:30] <Ironikk> Orite
#1423 [11:30] <Ironikk> but its the same right.
#1424 [11:30] <Ironikk> Both of your computers have the same ip
#1425 [11:30] <Ironikk> right ?
#1426 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Not exactly, no
#1427 [11:30] <Wils0> Basically the same as a wireless router right?
#1428 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Both computers will still have a unique internal IP address
#1429 [11:31] <Ironikk> Omg, some idiot told me that all computers assigned to the same router have the same ip :O?
#1430 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> You just need to figure out what it is, and connect via it
#1431 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Ironikk - From the outside, that is true.
#1432 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> NAT, or network address translation, is what all routers use. It acts as a traffic cop of sorts, giving one public IP, many private ips on the inside for people to share one connection with
#1433 [11:32] <Ironikk> Lol, to make life easyer use an ethernet lol
#1434 [11:32] <Wils0> Ok so find how to start a MC server locally and get my friend to connect to there?
#1435 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> It'll still be an ad-hoc network, you're just using a wire instead of wireless
#1436 [11:32] <Ironikk> Ok, got you now GrayVulpine
#1437 [11:32] <Ironikk> *Grey
#1438 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Wils0 - The ad-hoc network should work. I suppose all computers are running windows?
#1439 [11:33] <Jakey_Jake> ironikk, why u dont leave team wiever
#1440 [11:33] <Ironikk> Grey is it like networking sharing
#1441 [11:33] <Jakey_Jake> ..
#1442 [11:33] <Ironikk> ?
#1443 [11:33] <Jakey_Jake> LOL
#1444 [11:33] <Jakey_Jake> Back
#1445 [11:34] <Jakey_Jake> Ironikk, i closed Tv
#1446 [11:34] <Wils0> Yes Vista on mine and 7 on his. I had no problem pinging his comp and vice-versa so the network is working.
#1447 [11:34] <Ironikk> Ok, man
#1448 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and nothing on the computer running the server is blocking the connection? No firewall? No security software?
#1449 [11:35] <Wils0> Nope firewalls and file sharing are both agreeing with what we are doing.
#1450 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> You configured windows firewall?
#1451 [11:36] <Wils0> Yes
#1452 [11:36] <Jakey_Jake> Goodbye, for now
#1453 [11:36] <Jakey_Jake> t:P
#1454 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1455 [11:36] <Jakey_Jake> :P*
#1456 [11:36] <Ironikk> Cya
#1457 [11:36] <Ironikk> Couldent your isp help you Wils0
#1458 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> It isn't an ISP problem Ironikk.
#1459 [11:37] <Wils0> It's nothing to do with my ISP. :P I want to run the game completely local
#1460 [11:37] <Wils0> The only internet part is authentication right?
#1461 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> Wils0 - Do you only get timed out errors?
#1462 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> Yes Wils0.
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#1464 [11:38] <Jakey_Jake> Ironikk, u got a server?..
#1465 [11:38] <Ironikk> I dont get what you mean if you was going to run something local beetween computers wouldent you just use a local ip to connect to what ever you want to connect ?
#1466 [11:38] <Wils0> On my friends yes but I thought it would be pointless if he connected to my IP and I did to his. We would be in 2 different places if you know what I mean
#1467 [11:38] <Ironikk> Jakey, no i livestream with a few mates.
#1468 [11:38] <Jakey_Jake> Oh, kk
#1469 [11:39] <Jakey_Jake> Bye :D
#1470 [11:39] <Ironikk> cya ;)
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#1472 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Wils0 - What are your computer's IPs?
#1473 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> How are you trying to connect to each other?
#1474 [11:40] <Wils0> Through the minecraft multiplayer
#1475 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> With what IP?
#1476 [11:40] <Wils0> Mine -> 169.254.57.209
#1477 [11:41] <Ironikk> GreyVulpine are you like a network technician
#1478 [11:41] <Wils0> This is a better way to put it. I want to host a SMP game on my computer and have him join me. Sorry if there was confusion before.
#1479 [11:42] <Ironikk> Wils0 so wouldent you use a local ip
#1480 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Networking was one of my prior jobs.
#1481 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Ironikk - That is a local IP
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#1483 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> I understand Wils0, hmm.
#1484 [11:42] <Ironikk> Ok, so whats 127.0.0.1 and 0.0.0.0 ?
#1485 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1 is a loopback address, points to the same computer
#1486 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> 0.0.0.0 is a broadcast address
#1487 [11:43] <Ironikk> Right ok.
#1488 [11:44] <Wils0> Ah Grey if I used one of those would it start a SMP game from minecraft that others can join?
#1489 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't apply in your case Wils0.
#1490 [11:44] <Wils0> Ok. So starting a local server is the go?
#1491 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, you're doing it right, I'm just trying to think of why it's not letting you connect...
#1492 [11:45] <Wils0> I believe it is because there is no game to connect to.
#1493 [11:45] <Ironikk> 192.168.1.71 <-- thats my ip right and its the same as the other comp i have so if i ran a server on my computer and the other computer could connect to it by using 192.168.1.71 ? is that correct or incorrect ?
#1494 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> If there's no game to connect to, you'd instead get a connect reset error, not a timed out
#1495 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Ironikk - That's right, but 192.168.x.y addresses aren't the only private ip addresses available.
#1496 [11:47] <Ironikk> Ok
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#1498 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> The 10.x.y.z range is also used in private networking, same with 172.whatever
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#1500 [11:48] <Ironikk> Ok, ive allways wanted to no what a vpn does could you maybe explain ?
#1501 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> Ironikk - To put it in a nutshell, VPN is 'virtual private networking'. It allows a computer to connect to a LAN, from the outside, usually tunneling in from the internet, so that the computer appears to be on the LAN.. when it actually isn't
#1502 [11:49] <Ironikk> so like a proxy and :O nutshell ty :D
#1503 [11:51] <Wils0> Ok grey I have 4 different IP's here. I wouldn't use the subnet mask, DNS or WINS server would I?
#1504 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1505 [11:52] <Wils0> Thought so. Thanks for your help I will comb through google and get some server things happening. :)
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#1516 [12:16] <DrkNinja> hello?
#1517 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1518 [12:17] <DrkNinja> I'm getting an error trying to play minecraft just trying to get some help
#1519 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the error?
#1520 [12:18] <cliff101> I have made a bed item but how can i remove it?
#1521 [12:18] <DrkNinja> Or.lwjgl.LWJGLexception: Pixel format not accelerated
#1522 [12:18] <DrkNinja> *org.lwjgl....
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#1524 [12:19] <DrkNinja> Know whats wrong by chance?
#1525 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Video drivers.
#1526 [12:20] <DrkNinja> Basically my comp. is shit
#1527 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Either they're not up to date, or you're running an integrated graphics card, and don't have enough ram, or your video card just can't support minecraft
#1528 [12:21] <DrkNinja> You'd think a pixelated game like Minecraft everyone could play
#1529 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> cliff101 - Just hold left click on the bed, you can remove it just like any other block
#1530 [12:21] <DrkNinja> but you'd be wrong!
#1531 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Graphics doesn't equate to how CPU-intensive it is
#1532 [12:22] <DrkNinja> Yea, well
#1533 [12:22] <DrkNinja> It's cool thanx for your help though
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#1535 [12:23] <cliff101> ok tnx
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#1537 [12:34] <buddyochoa> No more lines in minecraft.
#1538 [12:34] <buddyochoa> My video card died, and the one I put in doesn't do it
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#1544 [12:45] <Overseer10> Hello
#1545 [12:45] <Overseer10> does anyone host on UGS servers? we are having some troubles with a game server there :(
#1546 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope.
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#1556 [13:10] <bhefley1> :)
#1557 [13:11] <VoxelHead> =)
#1558 [13:11] <bhefley1> :D
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#1562 [13:49] <dopeghoti> Morning, kids
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#1568 [14:16] <oldtopmanserver> Voxelhead: Thats because I broke your DVD player.
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#1570 [14:19] <MDanz> what default mc server port?
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#1572 [14:21] <cnark> hi
#1573 [14:22] <cnark> anyone here?
#1574 [14:22] <VoxelHead> no
#1575 [14:22] <MDanz> no
#1576 [14:22] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :[
#1577 [14:23] <cnark> can anyone of u help me pls?
#1578 [14:23] <Chr|s> cnark: we would if we knew the problem
#1579 [14:23] <cnark> so is tart the game without any mods
#1580 [14:23] <cnark> i tried it with texture apcks as well
#1581 [14:23] <cnark> and after some time it suddenly turns to blackscreen
#1582 [14:23] <cnark> win7
#1583 [14:24] <cnark> need to restart the game afterwards
#1584 [14:24] <cnark> that's my problem... and i can't find anything in the internet specifically for my problem
#1585 [14:25] <cnark> i already tried to reinstall java 32 and 64 bit
#1586 [14:25] <Chr|s> cnark: lots of stuff about black screen and minecraft
#1587 [14:26] <Chr|s> cnark: You have latest java and latest client version and minecraft.jar?
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#1589 [14:26] <cnark> minecraft.jar?
#1590 [14:26] <cnark> i updated java both 32 and 64 bit before
#1591 [14:26] <cnark> like said
#1592 [14:26] <cnark> and i downloaded the game about 8 hours ago
#1593 [14:27] <cnark> so i think it should be the newest version of minecraft.jar?
#1594 [14:27] <Chr|s> cnark: you only download the version of java that is fit for your machine
#1595 [14:27] <Chr|s> do you know if your computer is 32 or 64bit?
#1596 [14:27] <cnark> yeah i got 64 bit win 7 but i use 32 bit brwoser, so i got both
#1597 [14:28] <Chr|s> im thinking that would cause problems
#1598 [14:28] <cnark> okay?
#1599 [14:28] <cnark> so i shall deinstall java 32?
#1600 [14:29] <Chr|s> uninstall everything java
#1601 [14:29] <cnark> and reinstall 64 afterwards?
#1602 [14:29] <Chr|s> correct
#1603 [14:30] <cnark> k i try it
#1604 [14:31] <Chr|s> cnark: are you running windows?
#1605 [14:31] <cnark> yeah
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#1608 [14:34] <Chr|s> >>??
#1609 [14:34] <Chr|s> doh
#1610 [14:34] <Chr|s> forgot bot trigger
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#1614 [14:38] <Saliom> hi
#1615 [14:38] <Chr|s> Welcome to #MineCraftHelp. Hope you stay awhile!
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#1617 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Chr|s help
#1618 [14:39] <Chr|s> DopeGhoti: thanks!
#1619 [14:39] <Saliom> i'd need some help on a server that says me it can't bind to the port but i did forward the port on my router, and i got a DMZ so it shouldn't be a problem
#1620 [14:40] <Chr|s> ??>> Saliom bindport
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#1625 [14:42] <Chr|s> pxwfys1
#1626 [14:42] <Chr|s> oops random generated crap tinyrurl
#1627 [14:42] <Saliom> omg so i don't especially need to specidie an IP allright, i'll try that thx :)
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#1629 [14:42] <cnark> hi
#1630 [14:42] <cnark> i'm re
#1631 [14:42] <Kirold> Hi, is it normal that the gift codes are unavailable?
#1632 [14:42] <Chr|s> cnark:
#1633 [14:42] <Chr|s> also
#1634 [14:42] <Chr|s> try this
#1635 [14:43] <cnark> try what?
#1636 [14:43] <Chr|s> ?? cnark win/.minecraft
#1637 [14:43] <Saliom> OMG it works fine, many thx Chr|s :) good night (or day depending on where you are :) )
#1638 [14:43] <Chr|s> doh!
#1639 [14:43] <Chr|s> ??>> cnark win/.minecraft
#1640 [14:44] <cnark> what is in this folder chris?
#1641 [14:44] <Chr|s> You should delete everything in it
#1642 [14:44] <cnark> my saves as well? :(
#1643 [14:44] <cnark> or can i make a backup of them?
#1644 [14:45] <Chr|s> no keep your saves
#1645 [14:45] <Chr|s> back them up
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#1647 [14:45] <Chr|s> reinstall minecraft and let me know the outcome, it should update and load fine this time
#1648 [14:46] <cnark> ye it's reinstalling atm
#1649 [14:47] <cnark> i'll try it out if it crashes the next 20 minutes i'll tell u, k?
#1650 [14:47] <cnark> if not, thanks a lot!
#1651 [14:47] <Chr|s> ok
#1652 [14:47] <Chr|s> if not come back either way
#1653 [14:47] <Chr|s> we can try our best to help you
#1654 [14:47] <cnark> i'll stay here in the meantime
#1655 [14:51] <Kealper> disregard this
#1656 [14:52] <bildramer> inb4 spam
#1657 [14:52] <Chr|s> ?
#1658 [14:52] <Kealper> hmm....
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#1662 [15:00] <aetherian> ima back
#1663 [15:02] <xENO_> You're a back?
#1664 [15:04] <aetherian> yep
#1665 [15:04] <aetherian> actually, I'm just in the back
#1666 [15:06] <Kirold> hi
#1667 [15:07] <Kirold> could u look if gift codes work? it doesn't for me just when i click on the paypal button
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#1669 [15:09] <aetherian> what exactly do you mean by a gift card not working?
#1670 [15:09] <aetherian> are you not able to buy it?
#1671 [15:10] <Kirold> so
#1672 [15:10] <cnark> ok it was running for half an hour now, that's the longest time by now
#1673 [15:10] <cnark> so i think it's workign
#1674 [15:10] <cnark> thx a lot chris
#1675 [15:12] <Kirold> i've got paypal, and i bough it for me last week, and a friend who does not have paypal want the game, so i'll buy it for him, and just when i click on the 'pay with paypal' button, it say this: "Something seems to have gone wrong. We'll have a tinker with it momentarily, please check back again later."
#1676 [15:12] <Kirold> since yesterday morning..
#1677 [15:13] <Kirold> sorry for my english, it's not my mother language
#1678 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> Kirold: it's actually not that bad. I'm seeing if I can find someone to help with your problem right now
#1679 [15:16] <Chr|s> cnark: np :)
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#1681 [15:17] <Kirold> thx
#1682 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> Kirold: I can't seem to get in touch with them. Have you already tried sending an email to payment@mojang.com ?
#1683 [15:19] <Jackson413> hey dope do you know xml?
#1684 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> A little
#1685 [15:19] <BarryCarlyon> XML is just a format.
#1686 [15:20] <Jackson413> well can you see what i am doing wrong
#1687 [15:20] <Jackson413> http://pastebin.com/KwiHh5ca
#1688 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: did you use xmllint?
#1689 [15:20] <Jackson413> i have tried repeatedly, and there is something stupid im doing im certain
#1690 [15:20] <Jackson413> nope
#1691 [15:20] <Jackson413> it is the ModX format for phpBB
#1692 [15:21] <BarryCarlyon> I thought they stopped ModX.
#1693 [15:21] <Kirold> no i didn't sent anything yet, i wanted to know if the problem came from my computer or not..
#1694 [15:21] <Jackson413> nope
#1695 [15:21] <Jackson413> BarryCalyon: i dont think they would have as that is their official mod format and everything still uses it
#1696 [15:21] <BarryCarlyon> Whats the error?
#1697 [15:22] <BarryCarlyon> Jackson413: wasnt sure :-P been a while since I touched phpbb mods.
#1698 [15:22] <Jackson413> it isnt loadiong
#1699 [15:22] <Jackson413> i open with my browser, and the title changes, but nothing displays
#1700 [15:22] <Jackson413> ive tried chrome and firefox and no dice for either
#1701 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> the only complaint I get from xmllint is a lack of a DTD
#1702 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> foo.xml:5: validity error : Validation failed: no DTD found !
#1703 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> rg/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns="http://www.phpbb.com/mods/xml/modx-1.2.5.xsd"
#1704 [15:24] <BarryCarlyon> Is the stylesheet file present?
#1705 [15:24] <AkiTensai> Jackson413: Are you able to view the Java console while it goes from loading to nothing displaying? Is nothing displaying black?
#1706 [15:25] <BarryCarlyon> AkiTensai: its not a java problem.
#1707 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> the XML file is trying to refer to modx.prosilver.en.xsl in the same directory
#1708 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> is that file there?
#1709 [15:25] <AkiTensai> Ah, I assumed a MC problem. sry.
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#1711 [15:26] <Jlarious> hello? i have a problem with my minecraft account
#1712 [15:26] <BarryCarlyon> dopeghoti: I chekced the xmlns file is there. and appears to be valid
#1713 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> Jlarious: what problem are you having?
#1714 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> BarryCarlyon: If you open the XML file in Chrome or Safari, and use the element inspector, it should be able to tell you what's going wrong.
#1715 [15:27] <Jlarious> I changed my pass and forgot it, but i can't retrieve because it is not on my email account and i don't know what email account is linked to it
#1716 [15:27] <BarryCarlyon> Hehe the skype mod (just realised) I wrote that ages ago as a mod for phpbb3 got denied since I was trying to add the js file from skype
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#1718 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Jlarious: why would you not use your emaill address for your account?
#1719 [15:28] <Jlarious> because i already had an account linked to it
#1720 [15:28] <Awesomeslayerg> Hey guys i need help... When im playing multiplayer it lags alot i tried diffrent servers it used to not do this
#1721 [15:28] <AkiTensai> Jlarious: Without an email account, I don't believe you can reset your password. Do you have a list of posible email accounts, or did you 10minutemail it?
#1722 [15:29] <Awesomeslayerg> The blocks load slowly
#1723 [15:29] <Jlarious> i 10minute mailed it and i really donn't know what email i used.
#1724 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Jlarious: well, if you no longer ahve the email account, there's nothing we can do
#1725 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> that's why you don't use disposable email accounts for purchases.
#1726 [15:30] <AkiTensai> Jlarious: Ouch. You may have lost the account. I'd try contacting payments and asking them if there is anything that can be done. It might be posible to link your bank account to your MC account, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
#1727 [15:30] <Jlarious> well, thanks anyways everyone, i think i'll need to buy a new one.
#1728 [15:31] <Awesomeslayerg> Jlarious: get a new email address
#1729 [15:31] <BarryCarlyon> Jackson413: will look further in a bit, pizza just arrived
#1730 [15:31] <AkiTensai> >D More money for MC! >.>
#1731 [15:31] <Jlarious> yeah, the new email is already fixed. so i just need a new account for my new email
#1732 [15:31] <AkiTensai> Jlarious: Do you have multple people to play with, or do you duel box?
#1733 [15:32] <Jlarious> i play multiplayer allot.
#1734 [15:32] <Jlarious> played*
#1735 [15:32] <Awesomeslayerg> Can someone help me also?
#1736 [15:32] <AkiTensai> I'd like to be playing again. MC crashes on me just after login.
#1737 [15:32] <Awesomeslayerg> When im playing multiplayer it lags alot i tried diffrent servers it used to not do this the blocks load slowly
#1738 [15:33] <Jlarious> lots of people that i know have that problem,
#1739 [15:33] <AkiTensai> Awesomeslayerg: I recall seeing tutorials about how to make MC play better on your machine. Not sure where they were though.
#1740 [15:33] <Awesomeslayerg> yea but it used to not do this
#1741 [15:33] <Awesomeslayerg> The blocks load very slowly
#1742 [15:34] <Awesomeslayerg> i tried gamebooster it did help but didnt help the blocks load faster
#1743 [15:34] <Awesomeslayerg> I played multiplayer alot so it used to not do this i would run it fine
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#1745 [15:35] <AkiTensai> Awesomeslayerg: Has the game been updated since back when it worked well? Code changes, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the features.
#1746 [15:35] <Awesomeslayerg> Yea i used to half alpha but after the update to 1.3
#1747 [15:37] <Awesomeslayerg> Have*
#1748 [15:38] <Awesomeslayerg> Classic works fine no problem
#1749 [15:38] <AkiTensai> Suggest a communication problem. I'm unable to help you.
#1750 [15:38] <Awesomeslayerg> :p...
#1751 [15:39] <Awesomeslayerg> so what now.. How am i going to fix this lag problem... i might install ubuntu later on. I do have some bits of a virus left on my computer
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#1753 [15:40] <bud> hey guys
#1754 [15:40] <Awesomeslayerg> hi
#1755 [15:41] <bud> ugh beta is aggrivating but so fun lol
#1756 [15:41] <Awesomeslayerg> oh yea i have this problem in single also
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#1759 [15:41] <bud> what kind of issues are you having?
#1760 [15:42] <AkiTensai> Awesomeslayerg: You said classic works fine without problem, but single has the multiplayer problem?
#1761 [15:42] <AkiTensai> bud: "Awesomeslayerg: Hey guys i need help... When im playing multiplayer it lags alot i tried diffrent servers it used to not do this"
#1762 [15:42] <Awesomeslayerg> No.. I meant the beta.
#1763 [15:42] <AkiTensai> >D Ah, got ya.
#1764 [15:42] <Awesomeslayerg> The blocks load slowly
#1765 [15:43] <Awesomeslayerg> in multiplayer and single player
#1766 [15:43] <Awesomeslayerg> sorry if i explained it incorrectly or confused you
#1767 [15:43] <bud> one of the same problems I am having..... almost, there was a bug with the 1.3 update
#1768 [15:43] <bud> some things in the bug are
#1769 [15:43] <bud> chunk load issues
#1770 [15:43] <bud> laggy chat
#1771 [15:43] <bud> instant disconnects
#1772 [15:44] <bud> and I/we have tried everything on my account to see if there is a fix
#1773 [15:44] <bud> only thing is
#1774 [15:44] <bud> there's nothing really that can be done, except wait
#1775 [15:44] <bud> until the 1.4 update comes out
#1776 [15:44] <bud> which should be soon
#1777 [15:45] <Awesomeslayerg> yea i tried minecraft on a friends comp same grapichs and processor and dsl verizon internet no change
#1778 [15:45] <bud> ya, its just a bug right now, that hopefully 1.4 will cover up
#1779 [15:46] <AkiTensai> bud: Have you ever heard of a bug that after login and update, the game crashes before the menu?
#1780 [15:47] <bud> that sounds like it could be something with java compatibility, have you tried updating java?
#1781 [15:47] <bud> it sounds like your java console is crashing on you
#1782 [15:48] <bud> what error message does it yield?
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#1784 [15:48] <AkiTensai> Latest version of Java, reinstalled 7 times (6th time using CCleaner, 7th using Revo Uninstaller) Let me get that message
#1785 [15:48] <Awesomeslayerg> People are saying its comming out on march 28th
#1786 [15:48] <Awesomeslayerg> monday
#1787 [15:48] <bud> thats good
#1788 [15:49] <AkiTensai> http://www.paste-it.com/view/24070802 network: Cache entry not found [url: file:/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Aki/Application%20Data/.minecraft/bin/lwjgl.jar, version: null]
#1789 [15:49] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#1790 [15:49] <Awesomeslayerg> The first version of minecraft
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#1793 [15:50] <AkiTensai> This error of crashing after login happens from FF3, FF4, Chrome, local .exe, and bat running .java
#1794 [15:50] <Awesomeslayerg> Notch should have an anversiarry of minecraft :P
#1795 [15:50] <AkiTensai> With cake! Wait, he already did that. Pie!
#1796 [15:51] <Awesomeslayerg> AndroidCraft
#1797 [15:51] <Awesomeslayerg> IOsCraft
#1798 [15:51] <Awesomeslayerg> Currently, an official iOS, and Android version of Minecraft is being developed by new Mojang employee Aron Neiminen for release later in the year 2011.[27][28]
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#1800 [15:53] <toksiks> Hello, could you help me please? I got problem with transactions, all the time it says that authentication failed after "Verryfing..."
#1801 [15:53] <CruelNoise> Awesomeslayerg: where'd you get that information?
#1802 [15:53] <aetherian> CruelNoise: I saw that too somewhere...
#1803 [15:54] <Awesomeslayerg> Wikipedia
#1804 [15:54] <CruelNoise> I'm mainly suprized about the new employee
#1805 [15:54] <CruelNoise> notch has experience with Android.
#1806 [15:55] <AkiTensai> CruelNoise: But does he have time/want to push Android over the main product?
#1807 [15:55] <aetherian> but I don't get it, will it have to be like indev for those?
#1808 [15:55] <aetherian> minecraft is very intensive...
#1809 [15:56] <Awesomeslayerg> CruelNoise: Wikipedia
#1810 [15:56] <CruelNoise> aetherian: presumably they're going to optimize it.
#1811 [15:58] <Awesomeslayerg> toksiks: Contact your bank/credit card company about if its locked or something
#1812 [15:58] <Awesomeslayerg> toksiks:also make sure you have money
#1813 [15:59] <AkiTensai> toksiks: NoScript in FF could cause problems to potentially.
#1814 [16:01] <CruelNoise> toksiks: what's your username for Minecraft?
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#1817 [16:03] <tycoonman500> Hi
#1818 [16:04] <Awesomeslayerg> wow i kinda fixed my problem by turning on limit framerate
#1819 [16:06] <AkiTensai> bud: You asked for the error earlier. Did you see it?
#1820 [16:07] <Awesomeslayerg> bud left
#1821 [16:08] <toksiks> I get pass all the asked details, I get pass after "Verryfing..", but then it drops out that authentication error, but money isn't counted off
#1822 [16:08] <toksiks> I got 16euro in my card
#1823 [16:08] <Awesomeslayerg> the game is 20 Erou
#1824 [16:09] <Awesomeslayerg> Eruo..
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#1826 [16:09] <AkiTensai> Awesomeslayerg: Thanks. Filters caused his exit to not display.
#1827 [16:09] <Awesomeslayerg> 21.85 usd
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#1830 [16:09] <toksiks> If you pre-purchase now during beta, you pay just €14.95!
#1831 [16:10] <Awesomeslayerg> wtf? i bought the game for 21.85 usd? wait nvm i think im doing th e conversion incorrectly
#1832 [16:11] <Awesomeslayerg> yea
#1833 [16:11] <Awesomeslayerg> just gooled
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#1835 [16:13] <Awesomeslayerg> toksiks: What contry do you live?
#1836 [16:16] <Afearot> I was in here yesterday but my power went out before my problem could be solved. I have a server between me and the internet so it seems that when my Minecraft is updating its getting blocked. I have a proxy on this laptop but not my desktop (proxies are block :/ ).
#1837 [16:17] <Afearot> So is there a way to get the files on my laptop to send to my desktop?
#1838 [16:17] <Awesomeslayerg> Filehosting perhaps?
#1839 [16:18] <Afearot> okay
#1840 [16:18] <Afearot> but where can I find the files?
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#1842 [16:19] <Awesomeslayerg> okay if you mean your saves and your world its in application data
#1843 [16:19] <Afearot> I get to 82% of the update and stop at the file lang="en-US"
#1844 [16:20] <lemon-rev> http://www.undeadpixelsvidya.webs.com/ < first vid that i have got from mc live events :)
#1845 [16:20] <Afearot> no I wish it were that
#1846 [16:21] <Awesomeslayerg> Wait your having an update problem?
#1847 [16:22] <toksiks> I live in Latvia, I'm going to try again after 10minutes and if nothing then through PayPal
#1848 [16:23] <Afearot> Here hold on I'll get the exact words for you.
#1849 [16:24] <Afearot> well its not doing it now of course
#1850 [16:24] <Afearot> anyway
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#1852 [16:24] <Afearot> brb restarting may make it do it again.
#1853 [16:24] <Awesomeslayerg> lol
#1854 [16:24] <BioDevil> Hey guys, i need some help
#1855 [16:24] <Awesomeslayerg> Yea whats ya need help with?
#1856 [16:24] <BioDevil> ok
#1857 [16:25] <BioDevil> I bought a VPS 1GB RAM
#1858 [16:25] <BioDevil> Ubuntu
#1859 [16:25] <BioDevil> It doesnt have Remote Desktop Connection
#1860 [16:25] <BioDevil> I want access to the RDP though, so I can see a GUI
#1861 [16:25] <BioDevil> I tried installing a bunch of things, but it wont work
#1862 [16:25] <BioDevil> it freezes my putty client after 2 hours
#1863 [16:25] <Awesomeslayerg> then contact your vps provider
#1864 [16:25] <BioDevil> Ok
#1865 [16:26] <BioDevil> and i need help from someone installing Mono and MySQL from my VPS
#1866 [16:26] <BioDevil> Would you be willing to do it for me?
#1867 [16:26] <Awesomeslayerg> Just contact your vps providor..
#1868 [16:26] <Awesomeslayerg> They will do it
#1869 [16:26] <BioDevil> they arent doing it
#1870 [16:26] <Awesomeslayerg> What is your vps providers name
#1871 [16:26] <BioDevil> i asked them
#1872 [16:26] <BioDevil> umm
#1873 [16:26] <BioDevil> FeHosting
#1874 [16:27] <AG_Scott> lol.
#1875 [16:27] <AG_Scott> I remember them.
#1876 [16:27] <AG_Scott> One of their ex staff members posted a lot of client info on mcforums XD
#1877 [16:28] <BioDevil> oh wow
#1878 [16:28] <AG_Scott> What distro?
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#1880 [16:28] <BioDevil> Ubuntu
#1881 [16:28] <Awesomeslayerg> http://mibpaste.com/AMteZT
#1882 [16:28] <BioDevil> I need a lot of help
#1883 [16:28] <Afearot> hmm maybe not then...
#1884 [16:28] <AG_Scott> Well, mono should already be installed
#1885 [16:28] <Awesomeslayerg> fehosting sucks lol
#1886 [16:29] <AG_Scott> "apt-get install mono mysql-server"
#1887 [16:29] <AG_Scott> and for the record, I work for another host and that topic was deleted so I can't really prove it.
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#1890 [16:29] <AG_Scott> But it was there! o:
#1891 [16:30] <BioDevil> It gives me an error
#1892 [16:30] <BioDevil> AG Scott
#1893 [16:30] <BioDevil> can i give you my info
#1894 [16:30] <Awesomeslayerg> Diodevil,http://mibpaste.com/AMteZT
#1895 [16:30] <AG_Scott> what error?
#1896 [16:30] <BioDevil> and you configure it for me?
#1897 [16:30] <BioDevil> I read that
#1898 [16:30] <AG_Scott> Afraid not.l
#1899 [16:30] <Awesomeslayerg> nope not me
#1900 [16:30] <BioDevil> root@server1:~# apt-get install mono mysql-server Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package mono is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'mono' has no installation candidate
#1901 [16:30] <AG_Scott> hmmm.
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#1903 [16:31] <AG_Scott> Dun know. I'd have to look and I don't have time, sorry.
#1904 [16:31] <BioDevil> :/
#1905 [16:32] <AG_Clinton> BioDevil: You need the repos added to your sources.
#1906 [16:32] <BioDevil> whats that supposed to mean?
#1907 [16:32] <BioDevil> Gosh, im a noob
#1908 [16:34] <Afearot> going to try my desktop and see if the problem is still there just in case.
#1909 [16:34] <Awesomeslayerg> lol
#1910 [16:35] <Awesomeslayerg> I have a really old comp with 256 mb of ram and amd athlon 3000+ i belive or 3400+
#1911 [16:35] <Awesomeslayerg> its a compaq presario
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#1913 [16:35] <Awesomeslayerg> i highly doubt it will runa minecraft server
#1914 [16:36] <AG_Scott> it wont
#1915 [16:37] <Awesomeslayerg> yea i tought soo
#1916 [16:40] <Awesomeslayerg> BioDevil: Try this http://miburl.com/sgP6JS
#1917 [16:40] <BioDevil> anyone know any cheap windows VPS?
#1918 [16:40] <AG_Scott> ewwww
#1919 [16:40] <AG_Scott> Windows = crap for servers
#1920 [16:40] <AG_Scott> even more so for java apps imo
#1921 [16:41] <BioDevil> Awesomeslayerg
#1922 [16:41] <BioDevil> link is broken
#1923 [16:41] <Awesomeslayerg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
#1924 [16:41] <Awesomeslayerg> try that
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#1928 [16:44] <Awesomeslayerg> BioDevil: http://www.thrustvps.com/
#1929 [16:44] <VoxelHead> panties
#1930 [16:45] <Awesomeslayerg> oranges
#1931 [16:45] <Awesomeslayerg> breastes
#1932 [16:46] <AG_Scott> breasts*
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#1934 [16:48] <Afearot> Well that's different it now is able to download everything but now its crashing right after the Mojang logo disappears.
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#1936 [16:48] <Afearot> I see an error report thing appear but I am not able to read it before the program closes
#1937 [16:48] <lemon-rev> aferot what happens to the web version
#1938 [16:48] <lemon-rev> wired
#1939 [16:49] <Afearot> But I'm using the client version
#1940 [16:49] <lemon-rev> i know
#1941 [16:49] <lemon-rev> but what i want to know if you can acually run the one on the browser cause its set differently
#1942 [16:49] <lemon-rev> but something sounds amis
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#1944 [16:50] <Afearot> lets see
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#1946 [16:51] <Afearot> nope that one is doing it too
#1947 [16:51] <lemon-rev> but does the page crash or just box
#1948 [16:51] <Afearot> just the box
#1949 [16:51] <Awesomeslayerg> lol BuggyCraft
#1950 [16:52] <lemon-rev> lol
#1951 [16:52] <lemon-rev> not
#1952 [16:52] <Awesomeslayerg> :P
#1953 [16:52] <lemon-rev> afearot have you tryed all the normal fixes for this
#1954 [16:52] <Afearot> har har
#1955 [16:52] <lemon-rev> yes ?
#1956 [16:52] <Afearot> No this just started happening
#1957 [16:53] <BioDevil> have you guys heard of RockStar VPS?
#1958 [16:53] <lemon-rev> when, did you or where you able to get game to run
#1959 [16:53] <VoxelHead> You are a bottomless pit of questions.
#1960 [16:53] <Afearot> first it was the update thing now this
#1961 [16:53] <Awesomeslayerg> .....
#1962 [16:53] <Afearot> I was able to run the game on my laptop
#1963 [16:53] <lemon-rev> reinstall java < delete teh bin folder in mc.
#1964 [16:53] <Afearot> okay
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#1966 [16:54] <Awesomeslayerg> = Win
#1967 [16:55] <Awesomeslayerg> brb
#1968 [16:55] <Awesomeslayerg> after this gonna play some san andreas
#1969 [16:55] <lemon-rev> good for you
#1970 [16:56] <Afearot> I may cut out
#1971 [16:56] <Afearot> brb
#1972 [16:56] <lemon-rev> if thats what you wanta do afearot
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#1974 [16:56] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :'(
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#1976 [16:57] <Chr|s> OMG to login to my shell I have to abide by these rules http://pastebin.com/E2aW4BRQ
#1977 [16:57] <Chr|s> to make a password
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#1979 [16:58] <Chr|s> I can't use any password that I usually use
#1980 [16:58] <VoxelHead> I like them ^_^
#1981 [16:58] <lemon-rev> chirs You can use an 8 character long < thats standered they are just makeing sure you have a strong password
#1982 [16:59] <TeT> Hi ! I got some video issues with Minecraft. When i'm moving around, for a very short time, all the map dissapears and then come back to normal just after. What can i do to fix that ? Thanks :)
#1983 [17:00] <lemon-rev> how often does that happen tet
#1984 [17:00] <TeT> Happens every 2/3 secs and only when moving.
#1985 [17:00] <lemon-rev> how much ram you got on that rig
#1986 [17:00] <TeT> Like a brutal refresh of all the map rendered
#1987 [17:00] <lemon-rev> yea i hear you but,
#1988 [17:00] <TeT> Got quite a very powerful comp to be honest
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#1990 [17:00] <lemon-rev> that doesnt tell me crap
#1991 [17:00] <lemon-rev> man
#1992 [17:00] <TeT> :D
#1993 [17:01] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1994 [17:01] <Awesomeslayerg> :(
#1995 [17:01] <lemon-rev> tet how much ram have you got
#1996 [17:01] <TeT> 2G
#1997 [17:01] <lemon-rev> ok
#1998 [17:01] <lemon-rev> what windows
#1999 [17:01] <lemon-rev> or what ops
#2000 [17:01] <TeT> W7
#2001 [17:01] <lemon-rev> what os*
#2002 [17:01] <Awesomeslayerg> WOW!! Thats awesome!! jk,,
#2003 [17:01] <lemon-rev> hm
#2004 [17:01] <lemon-rev> k
#2005 [17:01] <TeT> using the minecraft.exe
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#2007 [17:02] <IceGuest_77_> hey guys
#2008 [17:02] <IceGuest_77_> i got a question
#2009 [17:02] <Awesomeslayerg> yea
#2010 [17:02] <lemon-rev> tet, your prob running out of mem on w7 running minecraft but have you tryed updateing java at all
#2011 [17:02] <IceGuest_77_> anyone?
#2012 [17:02] <lemon-rev> iceguest just state it
#2013 [17:02] <IceGuest_77_> ok, ummm. Wher is the mod folder?
#2014 [17:02] <Awesomeslayerg> yea ^
#2015 [17:02] <lemon-rev> iceguest we dont help with mods sorry
#2016 [17:02] <Awesomeslayerg> *Facepalm* its in your minecraft.jar
#2017 [17:02] <TeT> lemon-rev: Well when i saw that glitch it's the first thing i did. Closed Minecraft. Force an update on Java and rebooted. No luck so far
#2018 [17:02] <IceGuest_77_> ok thanks anyway
#2019 [17:03] <Awesomeslayerg> IceGuest_77_:*Facepalm* its in your minecraft.jar
#2020 [17:03] <lemon-rev> tet, check your video drivers
#2021 [17:03] <lemon-rev> or
#2022 [17:03] <lemon-rev> do a directx diag
#2023 [17:03] <lemon-rev> dxdiag < start / run / dxdiag
#2024 [17:03] <TeT> lemon-rev: I got 4Gig of RAM, i was wrong :/
#2025 [17:03] <lemon-rev> ahnd check your drivers
#2026 [17:03] <lemon-rev> well thats a little better tet
#2027 [17:03] <Awesomeslayerg> lol
#2028 [17:03] <IceGuest_77_> awesomeslyerrg, i dont see it lol
#2029 [17:04] <TeT> lemon-rev: Ok let me diag DX
#2030 [17:04] <VoxelHead> it's true$%percent~£%percent~
#2031 [17:04] <Awesomeslayerg> IceGuest_77_: Go to run, then put in %appdata%
#2032 [17:04] <IceGuest_77_> im at teh jar, lol
#2033 [17:04] <Awesomeslayerg> oh
#2034 [17:04] <IceGuest_77_> i opened with winrar
#2035 [17:04] <Awesomeslayerg> :P
#2036 [17:05] <Awesomeslayerg> then just drag and drop your mod backup your minecraft.jar first
#2037 [17:05] <IceGuest_77_> k
#2038 [17:05] <Awesomeslayerg> and look at the read mes.txt also
#2039 [17:05] <TeT> lemon-rev: Everything looks perfectly fine
#2040 [17:06] <TeT> lemon-rev: both in 32/64 bit Dxdiag
#2041 [17:06] <lemon-rev> kk
#2042 [17:06] <TeT> lemon-rev: I rather take a look at java i guess. What's the adviced JRE ?
#2043 [17:06] <VoxelHead> warm
#2044 [17:07] <Afearot> Nope that didn't work
#2045 [17:07] <Awesomeslayerg> http://mibpaste.com/mX4NhT
#2046 [17:07] <Afearot> Now the web browser one wont even start
#2047 [17:07] <lemon-rev> well appart from uninstalling it , deleting the java folder and reinstalling it
#2048 [17:07] <Awesomeslayerg> my pc info
#2049 [17:07] <lemon-rev> not much from my end
#2050 [17:08] <TeT> lemon-rev: What JRE are you using ?
#2051 [17:08] <VoxelHead> pizza
#2052 [17:08] <Afearot> brb
#2053 [17:08] <lemon-rev> im usieng the latest jre or java
#2054 [17:08] <TeT> :/ i meant the Sun one or an open source one
#2055 [17:08] <lemon-rev> im running the sun, java
#2056 [17:08] <lemon-rev> sorry
#2057 [17:08] <TeT> ok thx :)
#2058 [17:09] <TeT> let's see what i got for now
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#2060 [17:09] <Lars> Hello
#2061 [17:09] <TeT> I got Java 6 Standard Edition from Oracle.
#2062 [17:10] <lemon-rev> ok tet
#2063 [17:10] <Awesomeslayerg> Lars:Hi
#2064 [17:10] <lemon-rev> tet http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
#2065 [17:11] <TeT> lemon-rev: I got this version but 32 Bits. My comp is 64... let me replace that even it should work anyway on 32 bits
#2066 [17:12] <lemon-rev> hm, i see
#2067 [17:12] <lemon-rev> it should tech run but if your not running 64 bit version maybe correctly then thqat could be the statering of the video
#2068 [17:13] <TeT> lemon-rev: Yup it's worth trying anyway
#2069 [17:13] <lemon-rev> k
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#2072 [17:19] <TeT> lemon-rev: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp i took the Windows 7, XP Online version, let's hope it's the 64bits version
#2073 [17:20] <lemon-rev> i see
#2074 [17:20] <lemon-rev> kk
#2075 [17:23] <TeT> lemon-rev: Done. Reboot time :) Well if i don't come back, thanks for the help
#2076 [17:23] <lemon-rev> np
#2077 [17:23] <TeT> bye !
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#2079 [17:23] <lemon-rev> well hope
#2080 [17:23] <lemon-rev> it works
#2081 [17:23] <lemon-rev> bye
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#2083 [17:31] <Pulec> paypal payment workin yet?
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#2088 [17:35] <Lars> Hello
#2089 [17:36] <Lars> Cananyone help? i have some minecraft problems.
#2090 [17:36] <Afearot> Then tell us
#2091 [17:36] <Afearot> you don't need to ask ;P
#2092 [17:37] <Lars> Well the launcher runs smoothly and into the actual game it is super choppy
#2093 [17:37] <Lars> On the online launcher and the downloaded
#2094 [17:37] <Afearot> After restarting because of updates and uninstalling Java completely I still can't run Minecraft
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#2096 [17:38] <Afearot> Both crash at the same time
#2097 [17:38] <Lars> No idea
#2098 [17:38] <lemon-rev> afearot so sstill no goo ?
#2099 [17:39] <Afearot> yep
#2100 [17:39] <lemon-rev> dammit
#2101 [17:39] <Afearot> Yeah
#2102 [17:39] <lemon-rev> well wait till one of the op's appear and see if they can help sorry
#2103 [17:39] <lemon-rev> :(
#2104 [17:39] <Afearot> Its okay you tried :)
#2105 [17:39] <lemon-rev> yup
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#2107 [17:40] <Afearot> hmm maybe I should try deleting the minecraft.jar
#2108 [17:40] <lemon-rev> you could try dude, just something to hopefully refresh it
#2109 [17:41] <lemon-rev> somehow
#2110 [17:41] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
#2111 [17:41] <Afearot> nvm I already did that when I deleted the bin file
#2112 [17:41] <lemon-rev> i see
#2113 [17:41] <lemon-rev> gay
#2114 [17:41] <lemon-rev> did it redownload though afearot
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#2116 [17:42] <Afearot> I opened the game afterwards
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#2118 [17:42] <Afearot> so it downloaded it then
#2119 [17:42] <lemon-rev> i see
#2120 [17:42] <Afearot> I could try to delete everything
#2121 [17:42] <lemon-rev> damm
#2122 [17:42] <lemon-rev> well if you havent a world yea i suppose,
#2123 [17:42] <Afearot> but I don't think that would help
#2124 [17:43] <lemon-rev> hm, gay
#2125 [17:43] <Afearot> VoxelHead do you have any suggestions
#2126 [17:43] <Afearot> ?
#2127 [17:46] <Afearot> WOOHOO!!!!
#2128 [17:46] <Afearot> it worked!
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#2130 [17:48] <Afearot> deleting everything actually fixed it :)
#2131 [17:48] <lemon-rev> wtf
#2132 [17:48] <lemon-rev> hahahhaha
#2133 [17:48] <lemon-rev> ok sweet
#2134 [17:49] <Afearot> haha yep
#2135 [17:49] <Afearot> I honestly didn't think that would work haha.
#2136 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Activate the shrinky self-destruct!
#2137 [17:50] <Afearot> hahaha
#2138 [17:50] <VoxelHead> You're after my robot bee^~~%percent@£^£@!*#~$.
#2139 [17:51] <Afearot> Yes I am trying to get your robot bee so you stop spying on me.
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#2150 [18:25] <mr_evil> hi
#2151 [18:26] <mr_evil> need help
#2152 [18:26] <mr_evil> hello
#2153 [18:28] <VoxelHead> Bye Tonux.
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#2156 [18:36] <aetherian> whoa
#2157 [18:36] <aetherian> that guy... he had patience
#2158 [18:36] <aetherian> he waited over a full minute after logging in :o
#2159 [18:39] <aetherian> ugh
#2160 [18:40] <aetherian> I hate how when people see the movie "the social network" they think it's cool that the guy "hacked" into the... whatever it's called >.>
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#2164 [18:53] <BigHenk> hey
#2165 [18:53] <BigHenk> anyone know how to fix exception: java.net.socketexception: softweare caused connection abort?
#2166 [19:00] <aetherian> um
#2167 [19:00] <aetherian> under what circumstance?
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#2169 [19:09] <BigHenk> just every random (short) time interval
#2170 [19:09] <BigHenk> regardless of which server am connected to
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#2174 [19:16] <drekhan> hello?
#2175 [19:17] <Cory_> aetherian- i just now saw how you mentioned the guy 'hacking'.. what about it?
#2176 [19:19] <aetherian> huh wha? that was just me blathering about it
#2177 [19:19] <aetherian> but still, it's so annoying >.>
#2178 [19:19] <Cory_> hah what is?
#2179 [19:19] <Cory_> are you referring to the fact that it wasn't actually hacking?
#2180 [19:20] <aetherian> calling someone who does what he did is like calling an alchemist a chemist
#2181 [19:20] <aetherian> it's cracking >.>
#2182 [19:20] <Cory_> yeah, i noticed that when i saw the movie too :P
#2183 [19:20] <aetherian> and then he tries to pass it off as what is commonly known as "grey-hat hacking"
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#2186 [19:24] <aetherian> oh wow
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#2188 [19:25] <aetherian> I gotta hand it to playonlinux, they definitely make it so beginners can use it.
#2189 [19:25] <SRL51676> Ok having a problem I am installing mods and they have no effect on the game any ideas
#2190 [19:25] <DreadLindwyrm> Are they in the right folder?
#2191 [19:25] <aetherian> on their downloads page, they have a separate section for ubuntu a debian, I assume for those who don't know that ubuntu is in a certain way debian. but anyway, SRL51676, how do you know it has no effect?
#2192 [19:26] <AG_Scott> aetherian, crossover for linux professional ftw
#2193 [19:26] <aetherian> eh wazzis?
#2194 [19:27] <SRL51676> yeah opening .jar del INF file copy in mod files
#2195 [19:27] <SRL51676> there is no result
#2196 [19:27] <SRL51676> no crash or anything but no mod either
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#2198 [19:29] <aetherian> you're putting it in the .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar, right?
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#2200 [19:30] <brienza> Hello
#2201 [19:30] <aetherian> hello, brienza
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#2203 [19:30] <SRL51676> yeah thats the file
#2204 [19:30] <aetherian> and you're sure it's going in?
#2205 [19:30] <aetherian> (and you deleted META-INF?)
#2206 [19:31] <SRL51676> yeah I can reopen the .jar file and see the mod files, and yes Meta-inf is gone
#2207 [19:31] <aetherian> and what mod, exactly?
#2208 [19:32] <SRL51676> tried death chest and Zane mini map both work fine on my roommates comp
#2209 [19:32] <lahwran> I heard zanminimap
#2210 [19:32] <aetherian> try reinstalling the binaries, then reinstalling the mod
#2211 [19:32] <brienza> Mods are nothing but trouble >.<
#2212 [19:33] <lahwran> only if you do them wrong
#2213 [19:33] <brienza> I simply followed the instructions of an Optimine mod and my game crashes before the Mojang screen now
#2214 [19:33] <SRL51676> how do i reinstall just the bins?
#2215 [19:33] <brienza> So I deleted everything besides my save files and I reinstalled
#2216 [19:33] <lahwran> you only need to delete the version file
#2217 [19:34] <brienza> Still didn't work, but ironically the cracked version I used to use still works
#2218 [19:34] <lahwran> you only need to delete the version file
#2219 [19:34] <aetherian> SRL51676: delete ./minecraft/bin
#2220 [19:34] <lahwran> how many times do I have to say this? you only need to delete the version file
#2221 [19:34] <aetherian> lahwran: once I listen to you, you can stop saying it
#2222 [19:34] <aetherian> be ready to spam
#2223 [19:35] <lahwran> SRL51676: what mod are you installing?
#2224 [19:35] <aetherian> he already said >.>
#2225 [19:35] <aetherian> he's tried death chest and zane mini map
#2226 [19:36] <lahwran> on his roommate's compy
#2227 [19:36] <lahwran> he does not appear to have stated what he is installing on his
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#2229 [19:37] <nanotron> howdy
#2230 [19:38] <aetherian> lahwran: he did not say that
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#2232 [19:38] <lahwran> <SRL51676> tried death chest and Zane mini map both work fine on my roommates comp
#2233 [19:38] <aetherian> <SRL51676> tried death chest and Zane mini map. both work fine on my roommates comp
#2234 [19:39] <lahwran> I see no other mention of mod names
#2235 [19:39] <aetherian> I added the period, it was implied
#2236 [19:39] <aetherian> he has tried them both on his own computer.
#2237 [19:39] <aftershocks> Hey em
#2238 [19:39] <aetherian> he has noted that they work with his friend's
#2239 [19:39] <aftershocks> I have a question
#2240 [19:39] <aetherian> yes?
#2241 [19:39] <lahwran> SRL51676: would you respond please?
#2242 [19:40] <aetherian> lahwran: he's probably reinstalling on dialup or something
#2243 [19:40] <lahwran> it's easier for us if you simply confirm either having tried those mods on your computer or specify what you have
#2244 [19:40] <aetherian> be patient, jeez
#2245 [19:40] <aftershocks> So in order to get on #minecraft i put /nicksg Register (password) (name)
#2246 [19:40] <lahwran> ping reply in a half second
#2247 [19:40] <aetherian> lahwran: he doesn't need to confirm, he already said >.>
#2248 [19:40] <aftershocks> or what
#2249 [19:40] <lahwran> forget I said anything
#2250 [19:41] <aetherian> I think it's "PRIVMSG NickServ REGISTER password email"
#2251 [19:41] <aetherian> at least on telnet, anyway
#2252 [19:41] <lahwran> heh.
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#2255 [19:41] <SRL51676> sorry
#2256 [19:41] <aetherian> for clients, /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
#2257 [19:41] <aetherian> should work
#2258 [19:41] <SRL51676> 2 year old called
#2259 [19:41] <lahwran> SRL51676: ah :)
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#2261 [19:42] <aetherian> I have a two year old brother :)
#2262 [19:42] <aetherian> makes me about 5, by normal age differences :)
#2263 [19:42] <lahwran> <unneededsarcasm> that would explain you then </unneededsarcasm>
#2264 [19:43] <aetherian> except, given you, you would need to specify the sarcasm
#2265 [19:43] <aetherian> I think what would be better would be
#2266 [19:43] <SRL51676> ok this is weird what is the appdata/roaming?
#2267 [19:43] <aetherian> [unnecessaryinsult][sarcasm]blah[/sarcasm][unnecessaryinsult]
#2268 [19:43] <aetherian> for syntax
#2269 [19:44] <aetherian> you on windows, srl?
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#2272 [19:44] <aetherian> uh bye then
#2273 [19:45] <aetherian> srl?
#2274 [19:45] <lahwran> try pinging him
#2275 [19:45] <lahwran> heh not on telnet
#2276 [19:46] <aetherian> don't you ping me >.>
#2277 [19:46] <SRL51676> yeah vista had same problem on laptop with win7
#2278 [19:46] <aetherian> open up the start menu
#2279 [19:46] <aetherian> type %appdata%
#2280 [19:46] <aetherian> and you should see "roaming"
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#2282 [19:47] <SRL51676> yeah its there
#2283 [19:48] <aetherian> open it
#2284 [19:48] <aetherian> in there should be .minecraft
#2285 [19:48] <SRL51676> So is the path to the jard Appdata/roaming/.mincraft/bin/mincraft.jar
#2286 [19:48] <aetherian> close
#2287 [19:48] <aetherian> but yeah
#2288 [19:48] <aetherian> not in the launcher jar
#2289 [19:50] <SRL51676> ok trying again
#2290 [19:50] <lahwran> http://tiny.cc/modinstall
#2291 [19:50] <lahwran> SRL51676: you seen that tutorial?
#2292 [19:51] <lahwran> it won't replace asking here, but it might help
#2293 [19:51] <aetherian> ...
#2294 [19:52] <aetherian> technically, this guy's lucky already
#2295 [19:52] <brienza> I have a question: Is there any logical reason that a cracked version of MC runs fine but the one I paid for crashes after I log in?
#2296 [19:53] <aetherian> because you're doing it wrong
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#2298 [19:53] <brienza> Oh, okay
#2299 [19:53] <aetherian> and please don't talk about pirating here
#2300 [19:53] <brienza> I paid for the game
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#2302 [19:54] <brienza> I'm just curious why one version works over another when they are both 1.3_01
#2303 [19:54] <lemon-rev> brienza i belieave you installed a mod on the paid version correct
#2304 [19:54] <brienza> I did, and it caused this error, so I deleted all of my minecraft files besides my save, and reinstalled
#2305 [19:54] <brienza> The problem remains though
#2306 [19:54] <aetherian> are you sure?
#2307 [19:54] <lemon-rev> so you deleted all the files appart from save
#2308 [19:55] <brienza> Yes
#2309 [19:55] <SRL51676> Ok now its crashing
#2310 [19:55] <aetherian> I've heard of some cracked versions borking up the real version
#2311 [19:55] <brienza> I moved the save to another folder, and deleted the .minecraft folder
#2312 [19:55] <aetherian> SRL51676: did you delete META-INF?
#2313 [19:55] <SRL51676> yeah
#2314 [19:55] <lemon-rev> brienza ok does it at least try and update the files for you
#2315 [19:55] <lemon-rev> ?
#2316 [19:55] <brienza> Yes, it does update them.
#2317 [19:55] <brienza> Then it crashes
#2318 [19:56] <aetherian> define:crashed
#2319 [19:56] <aetherian> 's/crashed/crashes'
#2320 [19:56] <brienza> The program closes itself and gives no error message
#2321 [19:56] <SRL51676> stops at black screen then get a grey crash notification
#2322 [19:56] <lemon-rev> do you have a log file
#2323 [19:56] <lemon-rev> srl whats the grey error
#2324 [19:56] <lemon-rev> writing
#2325 [19:56] <lemon-rev> ?
#2326 [19:56] <SRL51676> one sec checking
#2327 [19:57] <SRL51676> Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.3_01 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java: 1.6.0_24, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: ATI Radeon HD 3400 Series version 3.3.10317 Compatibility Profile Context, ATI Technologies Inc. java.util.zip.ZipException: invalid entry size (expected 2033319944
#2328 [19:57] <brienza> Oh, I have a few hs_err_pid files I believe were created from minecraft shutting down
#2329 [19:57] <SRL51676> ava.util.zip.ZipException: invalid entry size (expected 2033319944 but got 832 bytes)
#2330 [19:57] <lemon-rev> brienza check the web version ie login minecraft.net and try and play via the page if not somethign appart from your crk vrsion is playing up
#2331 [19:58] <brienza> Okay, I'll try the browser version
#2332 [19:58] <lemon-rev> srl do you know how to reinstall java
#2333 [19:58] <SRL51676> then a bunch of lines of at...
#2334 [19:58] <aetherian> ...
#2335 [19:58] <aetherian> SRL51676: pastebin
#2336 [19:58] <aetherian> PASTEBIN D:
#2337 [19:58] <lemon-rev> hahaha
#2338 [19:59] <lemon-rev> ava.util.zip.ZipException: invalid entry size (expected 2033319944 but got 832 bytes) < aetherian
#2339 [19:59] <lemon-rev> thats javas fault
#2340 [19:59] <lemon-rev> lol
#2341 [19:59] <aetherian> he should pastebin it nonetheless
#2342 [19:59] <lemon-rev> k
#2343 [19:59] <SRL51676> ok Ill look in to it gtg for now thanks for trying
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#2345 [19:59] <aetherian> for now
#2346 [20:00] <aetherian> my tip would be to make sure that the new files overwrote any old ones, instead of just going beside them
#2347 [20:00] <aetherian> and besides that
#2348 [20:00] <aetherian> I don't recommend mods anyway :#
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#2350 [20:04] <lemon-rev> brienza < what happened to you
#2351 [20:04] <brienza> My computer is a bit slow, I apologize
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#2353 [20:04] <lemon-rev> oh
#2354 [20:04] <lemon-rev> i see
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#2356 [20:05] <brienza> I usually only run minecraft by itself without firefox or chrome open
#2357 [20:05] <aetherian> I usually run it with music streaming over firefox, pchat, word processing, and webcomics open
#2358 [20:05] <aetherian> :)
#2359 [20:05] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2360 [20:05] <brienza> I probably have 1/8 of the RAM you have
#2361 [20:06] <aetherian> you only have 512 MB of ram?
#2362 [20:06] <LoRDTrevor> aetherian: do you have a multi-monitor setup?
#2363 [20:06] <brienza> Exactly, aetheria
#2364 [20:06] <aetherian> LoRDTrevor: no, but I could easily
#2365 [20:06] <brienza> n*
#2366 [20:06] <aetherian> it doesn't work well with LXDE
#2367 [20:06] <aetherian> but I have a blank monitor on this same table
#2368 [20:06] <LoRDTrevor> i love haveing three monitors ^_^
#2369 [20:07] <aetherian> heh, someone I know plays minecraft on 512MB of ram
#2370 [20:07] <brienza> Well, I can get all the way to loading my SSP save file in-browser, so that's an improvement
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#2374 [20:10] <wolf_alex> heyyy
#2375 [20:11] <LoRDTrevor> hiiiii
#2376 [20:12] <LoRDTrevor> i just use a minecraft telnet server wrapper to wrap cmd and it worked.
#2377 [20:12] <LoRDTrevor> used*
#2378 [20:13] <aetherian> o.
#2379 [20:13] <aetherian> o
#2380 [20:13] <aetherian> ow my eye
#2381 [20:13] <LoRDTrevor> lol
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#2384 [20:18] <ColonelSlur> Hello?
#2385 [20:18] <brienza> Hi
#2386 [20:18] <ColonelSlur> Hi.
#2387 [20:18] <LoRDTrevor> hey
#2388 [20:18] <ColonelSlur> Is Grey active?
#2389 [20:18] <ColonelSlur> Or Kealper?
#2390 [20:19] <Kealper> rawr?
#2391 [20:19] <LoRDTrevor> i havent seen grey
#2392 [20:19] <lemon-rev> thats up to them to choose lol
#2393 [20:19] <ColonelSlur> Kealper. Remember me?
#2394 [20:19] <Kealper> si
#2395 [20:19] <LoRDTrevor> and dont know kealper
#2396 [20:19] <ColonelSlur> :D
#2397 [20:19] <VoxelHead> =D
#2398 [20:19] <Kealper> 99% of the time, i'm just a hilight away lol
#2399 [20:19] <ColonelSlur> Lol Voxel
#2400 [20:19] <ColonelSlur> Heh.
#2401 [20:19] <ColonelSlur> Well, I still need help. It's been 24 hours, and it still did not send me any email or let me download.
#2402 [20:20] <LoRDTrevor> ColonelSlur: can you explain your problem again? i wasnt here
#2403 [20:20] <ColonelSlur> Uh, sure.
#2404 [20:20] <ColonelSlur> I payed for minecraft, and I got the thank you page.
#2405 [20:21] <ColonelSlur> But it' been 24 hours, and stil lsays "please buy the game to play!"
#2406 [20:21] <aetherian> brb restart
#2407 [20:21] <LoRDTrevor> id try to contact mollstam on twitter
#2408 [20:21] <LoRDTrevor> spam him if you nust
#2409 [20:21] <Kealper> no
#2410 [20:21] <Kealper> email
#2411 [20:22] <ColonelSlur> Wont he get alot of emails?
#2412 [20:22] <ColonelSlur> From spammers and such?
#2413 [20:22] <Kealper> ColonelSlur: ok so....you bought it, but it never gave you access?
#2414 [20:22] * LoRDTrevor waits two months for reply
#2414 [20:22] <Kealper> no, it's better now
#2415 [20:22] <ColonelSlur> Yes, Kealper.
#2416 [20:23] <Kealper> if you paid and never got anything, send an email to payment@mojang.com and state your issue, and include your username + transaction ID
#2417 [20:23] <Kealper> so they know who to give premium to, and proof that you are you
#2418 [20:23] <ColonelSlur> Transaction ID?
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#2420 [20:23] <Kealper> payment reciept
#2421 [20:23] <ColonelSlur> Where did we get that?
#2422 [20:23] <Kealper> just something proving that you paid for it
#2423 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> from however you paid for Minecraft.
#2424 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> PayPal, bank, CC company, &c
#2425 [20:24] <ColonelSlur> Ok, so, screenshot of paypal?
#2426 [20:24] <LoRDTrevor> no
#2427 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> Just the Transaction ID will do
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#2429 [20:24] <ColonelSlur> Ok
#2430 [20:24] <ColonelSlur> I think
#2431 [20:24] <benn> hey i need help
#2432 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#2433 [20:24] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2434 [20:24] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2435 [20:25] <benn> okay..
#2436 [20:25] * LoRDTrevor clears his throat
#2436 [20:25] <ColonelSlur> Wow, so that's how Voxel talks.
#2437 [20:25] <ColonelSlur> You have to do ??
#2438 [20:25] <ColonelSlur> ?? ask
#2439 [20:25] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2440 [20:25] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2441 [20:25] <LoRDTrevor> may i be of assistance
#2442 [20:25] <ColonelSlur> LoRD, not anymore, thank you.
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#2444 [20:25] <ColonelSlur> I'll email him accordingly
#2445 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> ??>> ColonelSlur help
#2446 [20:25] <aetheria1> 'eya
#2447 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> 'lo, aetheria1
#2448 [20:26] <benn> um so im using CraftBukkitServer and whenever i change my Online server=true i get not a premium...
#2449 [20:26] <LoRDTrevor> i just ignored voxelhead
#2450 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> Good for you.
#2451 [20:26] <LoRDTrevor> had enoughof that just the seccond time
#2452 [20:26] <benn> from false to true
#2453 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> benn mods
#2454 [20:26] <VoxelHead> benn: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2455 [20:26] <VoxelHead> benn: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2456 [20:26] <ColonelSlur> ??>> DopeGhoti ask
#2457 [20:26] <benn> kk thanks
#2458 [20:26] <ColonelSlur> Did i work?
#2459 [20:26] <ColonelSlur> Heh
#2460 [20:26] <VoxelHead> =)
#2461 [20:26] <aetheria1> o.o
#2462 [20:26] <ColonelSlur> Yaaaay
#2463 [20:27] <ColonelSlur> Is Voxel a bot, btw?
#2464 [20:27] <VoxelHead> No
#2465 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#2466 [20:27] <ColonelSlur> .....
#2467 [20:27] <ColonelSlur> Uh...
#2468 [20:27] <ColonelSlur> Er..
#2469 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead is our resident stock-answer factory
#2470 [20:27] <LoRDTrevor> if she i shes a good one
#2471 [20:27] <ColonelSlur> He just aid..
#2472 [20:27] <ColonelSlur> No...
#2473 [20:27] <ColonelSlur> But....
#2474 [20:27] <LoRDTrevor> but annoying none the less
#2475 [20:27] <ColonelSlur> Aughghg?
#2476 [20:27] <Kealper> vox, arm lazers
#2477 [20:27] <Kealper> no?
#2478 [20:27] <ColonelSlur> What?! She replied though. When I said is Voxel a bot.
#2479 [20:28] <ColonelSlur> And gave me a smiley face1
#2480 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> ColonelSlur: voxel is either a bot or types extremely quickly and accurately on demand
#2481 [20:28] <ColonelSlur> Lolol
#2482 [20:28] <Kealper> lol
#2483 [20:28] <ColonelSlur> ?? cats
#2484 [20:28] <ColonelSlur> Didnt work
#2485 [20:28] <LoRDTrevor> im wondering if shes not a custon ALICE
#2486 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> sure it did.
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#2488 [20:28] <Kealper> vox, are you female?
#2489 [20:28] <VoxelHead> DeeWoo made me
#2490 [20:29] <LoRDTrevor> i have a question.
#2491 [20:29] <ColonelSlur> ?? gender
#2492 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> LoRDTrevor: we have answers.
#2493 [20:29] <ColonelSlur> ?? index
#2494 [20:29] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#2495 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> and often trade
#2496 [20:29] <ColonelSlur> ?? Voxel
#2497 [20:29] <wolf_alex> anyone know some good mods
#2498 [20:29] <wolf_alex> :P
#2499 [20:29] <ColonelSlur> ?? muchacho
#2500 [20:29] <LoRDTrevor> i was seeing if voxel was a bot DopeGhoti
#2501 [20:29] <wolf_alex> ive allways been like
#2502 [20:29] <wolf_alex> I play vanilla
#2503 [20:29] <wolf_alex> but I saw a cool mod
#2504 [20:29] <ColonelSlur> Well
#2505 [20:29] <wolf_alex> now im modding
#2506 [20:29] <wolf_alex> :P
#2507 [20:29] <ColonelSlur> Time to play some pokémon
#2508 [20:29] <ColonelSlur> Only thing my computer can handle
#2509 [20:30] <wolf_alex> anyone know some good onees?
#2510 [20:30] <DeeWoo> :o
#2511 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> wolf_alex: I'm a fan of the 'wait for the mod API' mod
#2512 [20:30] <VoxelHead> shucks
#2513 [20:30] <wolf_alex> dopeghoti in newb plox?
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#2515 [20:30] <LoRDTrevor> ok voxels not a bot
#2516 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> ..eh?
#2517 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> LoRDTrevor: why do you suggest this?
#2518 [20:31] <LoRDTrevor> if she is shes goddamned watson
#2519 [20:31] <VoxelHead> basically, purple dildos
#2520 [20:31] <wolf_alex> I dont understand what you said
#2521 [20:31] <wolf_alex> :P
#2522 [20:31] <LoRDTrevor> ^
#2523 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> wolf_alex: Mods are not officially supported, and I don't recommend them.
#2524 [20:31] <LoRDTrevor> watson is IBM hu
#2525 [20:31] <LoRDTrevor> ibs natural speech computer/ai
#2526 [20:31] <wolf_alex> dope thats why I was a vanilla :D
#2527 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: ASL?
#2528 [20:31] <LoRDTrevor> ibm*
#2529 [20:31] <VoxelHead> Dopeghoti: 16/male/up kia's cavernous arse
#2530 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> LoRDTrevor: "she" is apparently incorrect
#2531 [20:32] <LoRDTrevor> apparantly
#2532 [20:32] <wolf_alex> but then I saw the airplane mod :P
#2533 [20:32] <wolf_alex> so
#2534 [20:32] <wolf_alex> anyone know any (balenced) awesome mods?
#2535 [20:33] <wolf_alex> that kinda fit in with minecraft
#2536 [20:33] <LoRDTrevor> i use more 3D anyglyphs and zans minimap
#2537 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> wolf_alex: you might find more answers in #risucraft
#2538 [20:33] <LoRDTrevor> nothing else
#2539 [20:33] <lahwran> I heard zanminimap
#2540 [20:33] <wolf_alex> thank you
#2541 [20:33] <wolf_alex> I was directed here from minecraft
#2542 [20:33] <wolf_alex> :P
#2543 [20:33] <lahwran> actually I heard [zZ]an(eris)?.*[mM]ini(map)?
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#2545 [20:33] <LoRDTrevor> ok so?
#2546 [20:33] <LoRDTrevor> is that bad?
#2547 [20:33] <elfeh> Hey, can anyone tell me how to make a pressure plate "table" with a wooden pressure plate + fence post?
#2548 [20:33] <VoxelHead> So... about my sandwich...
#2549 [20:34] <lahwran> it means you have my attention, do you need help?
#2550 [20:34] <lahwran> with something I can help you with
#2551 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> elfeh: I don't think that pressure plates can be placed upon fenceposts
#2552 [20:34] <LoRDTrevor> voxel is your real name watson? are you a jeproady champion?
#2553 [20:34] <VoxelHead> omg yes
#2554 [20:34] <lahwran> LoRDTrevor: wait what
#2555 [20:34] <LoRDTrevor> i knew it
#2556 [20:34] <lahwran> nosrsly wait what
#2557 [20:35] <elfeh> I've seen it done in a video i saw on reddit
#2558 [20:35] <VoxelHead> No, my real name is VoxelHead. That's why I'm VoxelHead.
#2559 [20:35] <LoRDTrevor> watson is IBMs natural speech jeporady playing computer.
#2560 [20:35] <LoRDTrevor> it beat the best jeporady players in the world
#2561 [20:35] <lahwran> ...oh
#2562 [20:35] <lahwran> I thought it lost ...
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#2564 [20:35] <lahwran> meh, AI had to beat humans eventually
#2565 [20:35] <ajvpot> where can i find the launcher 1.0 jar?
#2566 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> I bet homan jeopardy players could do well too if they had instant access to Google and staggeringly fast typing skills
#2567 [20:36] <lahwran> ajvpot: I have a copy
#2568 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> !client
#2569 [20:36] <LoRDTrevor> watson did not have google
#2570 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> ?? distribution
#2571 [20:36] <VoxelHead> distribution: Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#2572 [20:36] <ajvpot> lahwran, i'd appreciate if you could send it to me
#2573 [20:36] <VoxelHead> distribution: This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#2574 [20:36] <lahwran> ...
#2575 [20:36] <ajvpot> allright
#2576 [20:36] <LoRDTrevor> voxel what is your average wpm?
#2577 [20:36] <VoxelHead> Some string.
#2578 [20:36] <lahwran> god fuck you guys are useless
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#2580 [20:36] <VoxelHead> mmm lahwran
#2581 [20:37] <LoRDTrevor> were usually better but were discussing voxel right now
#2582 [20:39] <elfeh> so noone knows how to build the tables? :(
#2583 [20:40] <TobiX> Well. Watson is "just" a big database of Wikipedia and stuff...
#2584 [20:40] <LoRDTrevor> and plus it takes a lot of proccessing power to process human speech
#2585 [20:40] <LoRDTrevor> he spent most of his time doing that
#2586 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> elfeh: sorry, I do not, unless it's as simple as building the fence and putting the plate atop it, and I suspect since you're asking, that it's not.
#2587 [20:41] <LoRDTrevor> just use a half block and a fence
#2588 [20:41] <LoRDTrevor> that will work
#2589 [20:42] <elfeh> it's too high though :p
#2590 [20:42] <LoRDTrevor> put half block as stools
#2591 [20:42] <elfeh> I tried deleting block and putting fence under really fast
#2592 [20:42] <LoRDTrevor> be creative
#2593 [20:42] <TobiX> LoRDTrevor: No, he doesn't. Watson got the questions as text. Speech-to-text was not part of his programming
#2594 [20:43] <elfeh> I got it
#2595 [20:43] <elfeh> build the fence post, put water on top
#2596 [20:43] <elfeh> then place the pressure plate in the water
#2597 [20:43] <LoRDTrevor> even so human language is still an intricate thing
#2598 [20:44] <LoRDTrevor> theres a reason watson is a supercomputer and not a 13 year olds chatbot
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#2602 [20:45] <TheArguer> Hello. When playing Minecraft classic, I can't see anything but I hear sound. What can I do about this?
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#2604 [20:46] <TheArguer> Hello?
#2605 [20:47] <LoRDTrevor> um...what kind of graphics card do you have?
#2606 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> TheArguer: play with your eyes open? (:
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#2608 [20:48] <TheArguer> Just a sec.
#2609 [20:48] <LoRDTrevor> layser eye surgery?
#2610 [20:48] <TheArguer> BTW, DopeGhoti. I tried that... didn't work. =(
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#2612 [20:48] <LoRDTrevor> laser*
#2613 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> TheArguer: darn
#2614 [20:49] * DopeGhoti hasn't any experience with Classic, so I"m unsure what to suggest
#2614 [20:49] <TheArguer> NVIDIA GeForce 320M
#2615 [20:49] <TheArguer> Dass'it.
#2616 [20:49] <LoRDTrevor> ok do you have the latest greatst drivers from NVIDIA?
#2617 [20:50] <TheArguer> Yeah, but I think it's either a problem with Java or my browser, but I could be wrong.
#2618 [20:52] <LoRDTrevor> ok TheArguer do you want to take a flying leap? If so download and install the JDK 7 prerelease.
#2619 [20:52] <LoRDTrevor> also what browser are you using?
#2620 [20:52] <TheArguer> Chrome.
#2621 [20:52] <LoRDTrevor> strange that it doesent work..
#2622 [20:52] <TheArguer> And I'm on a Mac and Apple provides their own version of Java. *shrugs*
#2623 [20:52] <LoRDTrevor> oh
#2624 [20:52] <lukegb> Ohhh, a Maaaaaaaaaac :P
#2625 [20:53] <LoRDTrevor> well i have a solution
#2626 [20:53] <TheArguer> Yeah, expensive for what you get, but reliable.
#2627 [20:53] <LoRDTrevor> ubuntu(not what you were expecting was it?)
#2628 [20:53] <TheArguer> Not really.
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#2630 [20:53] <LoRDTrevor> reliable?
#2631 [20:53] <LoRDTrevor> lol
#2632 [20:54] <LoRDTrevor> you cant even play minecraft
#2633 [20:54] <TheArguer> That's not a Mac problem is it though, eh?
#2634 [20:54] <TobiX> Well, Apple stopped providing any version of Java, so: HAHA
#2635 [20:54] <LoRDTrevor> yes it is
#2636 [20:54] <TheArguer> I'll tri-boot into Ubuntu. Just a second.
#2637 [20:54] <LoRDTrevor> your hardware wirh windows would run it no sweat
#2638 [20:54] <TobiX> Is the JRE7 already availible for OS X?
#2639 [20:54] <LoRDTrevor> yeah
#2640 [20:54] <LoRDTrevor> it comes with the jdk
#2641 [20:55] <LoRDTrevor> wait
#2642 [20:55] <LoRDTrevor> idk
#2643 [20:57] <LoRDTrevor> i gotta go wash dishes so your ol your owl
#2644 [20:57] <LoRDTrevor> own*
#2645 [20:57] <LoRDTrevor> hope ubuntu works
#2646 [20:57] <TobiX> Hmm... Apple said they would provide Oracle with the code so Oracle can release future Java versions for OS X, so I'm a bit alarmed seeing no OS X download option for JDK7-preview...
#2647 [20:58] <LoRDTrevor> you maclets are screwed
#2648 [20:58] <aetherian> gosh darn
#2649 [20:58] <aetherian> games play poorly on wine >.>
#2650 [20:58] <LoRDTrevor> it java
#2651 [20:58] <TobiX> LoRDTrevor: Was that a cue for a great "Muhahaha!"?
#2652 [20:58] <VoxelHead> You are a bottomless pit of questions.
#2653 [20:58] <LoRDTrevor> TobiX: why yes, yes it was
#2654 [20:59] <TobiX> VoxelHead: You are a bottemless pit of funny oneliners...
#2655 [20:59] <LoRDTrevor> you dont need wine for java
#2656 [20:59] <aetherian> not with java >>>
#2657 [20:59] <aetherian> it was just a random comment
#2658 [20:59] <TobiX> *rolleyes*
#2659 [20:59] <LoRDTrevor> ...ok
#2660 [20:59] <aetherian> if you're really curious, the game was fear combat >.>
#2661 [20:59] <TobiX> Imagine, Java on Wine running a Gameboy Emulator ;)
#2662 [21:00] <aetherian> o.o
#2663 [21:00] <aetherian> wait...
#2664 [21:00] <TobiX> So you hava a VM, an Emulator and an API translation layer in one process. Fun!
#2665 [21:00] <aetherian> which part's the API?
#2666 [21:00] <aetherian> because...
#2667 [21:01] <TobiX> You could run it with qemu on PPC ;)
#2668 [21:01] <TobiX> aetherian: Wine is not an emulator
#2669 [21:01] <aetherian> I would think it would be 2 VMs, and two emulators
#2670 [21:01] <aetherian> WINdows Emulator D:
#2671 [21:01] <aetherian> old school, man
#2672 [21:01] <LoRDTrevor> can somone give me the technicalities of how wine works? for edumacational reasons
#2673 [21:01] <aetherian> it simulates windows for linux
#2674 [21:01] <aetherian> beyond that, I don't care at the moment :)
#2675 [21:01] <TheArguer> It was a Chrome problem.
#2676 [21:02] <TheArguer> Works fine in Safari.
#2677 [21:02] <LoRDTrevor> i know what it does
#2678 [21:02] <TheArguer> So its not the Mac.
#2679 [21:02] <LoRDTrevor> how does it do it
#2680 [21:02] <TheArguer> I believe I deserve an apology.
#2681 [21:02] <TheArguer> LOL
#2682 [21:02] <TobiX> aetherian: You got that wrong. Wine does not mean "Windows Emulator", it means *W*ine *i*s *n*ot an *e*mulator
#2683 [21:02] <LoRDTrevor> i apologize
#2684 [21:02] <TheArguer> Thanks.
#2685 [21:02] <LoRDTrevor> but you still suck for being a mac
#2686 [21:03] <aetherian> it used to mean WINdows Emulator, TobiX
#2687 [21:03] <aetherian> I know what it stands for now
#2688 [21:03] <aetherian> not how I said "old school"
#2689 [21:03] <TheArguer> Hey, I've wanted a Mac since 3rd grade.
#2690 [21:03] <TobiX> aetherian: Wine is a project consisting of a PE(EXE) dynamic loader and a bunch of reimplementations of Windows APIs
#2691 [21:03] <aetherian> :O
#2692 [21:03] <VoxelHead> !
#2693 [21:03] <aetherian> TobiX: did I ask?
#2694 [21:03] <aetherian> what do I care what it is
#2695 [21:04] <TobiX> LoRDTrevor asked...
#2696 [21:04] <aetherian> then hilight him
#2697 [21:04] <TheArguer> They had an old Bondi Blue iMac with the hockey puck mouse. I loved it. Didn't know why though.
#2698 [21:04] <LoRDTrevor> thank you TobiX
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#2700 [21:04] <LoRDTrevor> my main os is actually ubuntu
#2701 [21:05] <LoRDTrevor> but i dual boot windows 7 ultimate
#2702 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> LoRDTrevor: same here. Windows for games that don't play well with WINE
#2703 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> Linux for everything else.
#2704 [21:07] <LoRDTrevor> yeah if one doesent work i use the other
#2705 [21:07] <LoRDTrevor> if the other doesent work i use my xp rig
#2706 [21:07] <LoRDTrevor> if that doesent work wtf am i trying to do
#2707 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> I even have Cygwin and andLinux installed on the Windows environment
#2708 [21:08] <LoRDTrevor> what do those do?
#2709 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> Cygwin is a POSIX API and interface for Windows, so I have access to bash and all of its accourtrements; andLinux is an X Server/client
#2710 [21:09] <TobiX> DopeGhoti: andLinux was that coLinux based distro?
#2711 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> No, andLinux isn't a distro, it's more like the Windows-based answer to WINE for Linux binaries
#2712 [21:10] <LoRDTrevor> sweet
#2713 [21:10] <VoxelHead> sweeeeeeet
#2714 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> http://andlinux.org/ Huh; that's a shame. They dropped x64 support
#2715 [21:10] <TobiX> Ah, just looked. It uses coLinux. Quite a funny idea, converting the Linux kernel into a Windows kernel thread, so both run at the same time...
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#2717 [21:12] <LoRDTrevor> open andlinux.open linuxbased jvm. run ubuntu. run wine. use it to run cygwin. destroy universe.
#2718 [21:13] <LoRDTrevor> vm* not jvm*
#2719 [21:14] * LoRDTrevor facepalms
#2719 [21:14] <TobiX> coLinux would be totally awesome if there was a native graphics driver for X to tunnel to the Windows desktop... But going through the network you loose direct rendering (aka. fast 3D)...
#2720 [21:16] <LoRDTrevor> argh...feeling....
#2721 [21:16] * LoRDTrevor whisprs
#2721 [21:16] <LoRDTrevor> noobish
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#2724 [21:20] <Mathuin> A question to the crowd: if I set up my map generator as a web service, i.e., type in a region name and some coordinates, and get a zip file containing a world in a few minutes, would you use it?
#2725 [21:21] <Mathuin> Worlds would be *small*.
#2726 [21:21] <Mathuin> Because I'd be using the free tier.
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#2731 [21:28] <Guest1390142329> hello
#2732 [21:28] <Cyberstorm> Hello
#2733 [21:29] <Guest1390142329> Hows it going?
#2734 [21:29] <Cyberstorm> I'd say good
#2735 [21:30] <Guest1390142329> Awesome, so, I spent a ton of time building a massive spawn trap, it worked fantastic on our server, up until a couple weeks ago, nothing is spawning in it, and i am getting very little items even when sitting in the collection area for hours
#2736 [21:31] <Guest1390142329> Nothing about my mob trap has changed
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#2738 [21:31] <Guest1390142329> any ideas?
#2739 [21:31] <Guest1390142329> the only thing that changed, was the server went from windows to a linux machine
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#2741 [21:34] * Cyberstorm doesn't know why
#2741 [21:35] <Guest1390142329> that sucks, who does the help around here?
#2742 [21:35] <TobiX> Volunteers
#2743 [21:35] <oldtopman> Whats up here?
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#2745 [21:38] <DreadLindwyrm> Just a thought, has the lighting near the trap changed? Has someone either roofed over or removed the roof from the trap.
#2746 [21:38] <Guest1390142329> no
#2747 [21:38] <Guest1390142329> nothing has changed in the trap
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#2753 [21:43] <Guest1390142329> anyone?
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#2755 [21:44] <Mathuin> Do you have any other spawning widgets in the map?
#2756 [21:44] <Mathuin> Or just this one?
#2757 [21:45] <Auv5> Is there any way to delete a single chunk off of a save (to be regenerated)?
#2758 [21:46] <Raikuron> Auv5: The magic of hacking.
#2759 [21:46] <Iguana> kealper is op, this place is instantly bad
#2760 [21:46] <Guest1390142329> we have more, its a huge map, but it worked perfectly until a few weeks ago
#2761 [21:46] <Mathuin> Auv5: or the magic of MCEdit.
#2762 [21:46] <Kealper> wut
#2763 [21:46] <Iguana> hi
#2764 [21:46] <Iguana> i didnt say anything
#2765 [21:46] <Iguana> you can scuttle along
#2766 [21:47] <Mathuin> Guest1390142329: if you have more, and this is the only one that works, try destroying it and replacing it with a new one.
#2767 [21:47] <Kealper> >.>
#2768 [21:47] <Guest1390142329> LOL
#2769 [21:47] <Guest1390142329> That is funny
#2770 [21:47] <Mathuin> ... and if this is the only one that *doesn't* work.
#2771 [21:47] <Mathuin> Sorry, mistype.
#2772 [21:47] <Guest1390142329> i think there is similar problems with other peoples
#2773 [21:47] <Guest1390142329> i am not destroying it, it took me way too long to build
#2774 [21:47] <Mathuin> Not the entire trap, just the spawning bit.
#2775 [21:48] <Mathuin> That little cube of whatever.
#2776 [21:48] <Guest1390142329> my spawn area is massive
#2777 [21:48] <Mathuin> But your spawn widget is a single one-meter cube, right?
#2778 [21:48] <Guest1390142329> oh, wait, widget? its just a giant dark room
#2779 [21:48] <Mathuin> oh.
#2780 [21:49] <Mathuin> So you have a big dark room and pray that monsters come out?
#2781 [21:49] <Mathuin> Huh.
#2782 [21:49] <Guest1390142329> no, i have a huge dark room that used to spawn tons of mobs and now doesnt
#2783 [21:49] <Mathuin> Bummer.
#2784 [21:49] <Mathuin> I thought you were using one of those dungeon mob generator things.
#2785 [21:49] <Guest1390142329> i have water running down the center, and channels at every 7 blocks
#2786 [21:49] <Guest1390142329> no
#2787 [21:49] <Mathuin> I wouldn't be surprised if you had to relight the map.
#2788 [21:49] <Guest1390142329> ?
#2789 [21:50] <brienza> Relighting the squares resets them in a sense
#2790 [21:50] <Mathuin> And it might reset them to 'dark' so that your trap works again.
#2791 [21:50] <Mathuin> Can you take the server down and open the map with something like MCEdit?
#2792 [21:51] <Guest1390142329> i could have the people in charge of the server do it probably
#2793 [21:51] <Mathuin> Open the map, place a single cube in the big dark room, save the map, let it rerun all the lightmap calculations, then restart the server.
#2794 [21:51] <Mathuin> That's what I'd do. Good luck!
#2795 [21:51] <Guest1390142329> but, ok, stuff still spawns, just not anywhere near the amount it should
#2796 [21:52] <Mathuin> Dunno what to tell you. I'd give relighting the map a try.
#2797 [21:52] <Guest1390142329> its not like nothing spawns, its just nowhere near the amount ill get like 12 sulphur in the time i used to get 4 stacks
#2798 [21:52] <Guest1390142329> are u official support?
#2799 [21:53] <Mathuin> Nobody here is "official support".
#2800 [21:53] <Mathuin> This is all volunteer.
#2801 [21:53] <Guest1390142329> i see
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#2803 [21:53] <Lam3r_co> hi
#2804 [21:53] <Guest1390142329> thank you btw
#2805 [21:53] <Mathuin> Good luck!
#2806 [21:53] <Mathuin> Lam3r_co: hi
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#2808 [21:54] <Lam3r_co> I've got a question> I have free 300MB of ram, assigned to java. Should I let minecraft server also use swap or it is counterproductive?
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#2810 [21:55] <Mathuin> I think you will notice a heinous performance problem if you try to make up the balance with swap. Minecraft will want one gig of RAM. Do you have one gig free when the OS is booted and the rest of your apps are closed?
#2811 [21:58] <Lam3r_co> the machine has 384MB of ram
#2812 [21:59] <Lam3r_co> it runs linux with very small memory footprint
#2813 [21:59] <Lam3r_co> it's server for 2 people, it works fine, but when we're far from each other, chunks tend to be missing in some places
#2814 [21:59] <Lam3r_co> ie large holes in ground
#2815 [22:00] <xENO_> I've had single user connections use >400MB.
#2816 [22:00] <Lam3r_co> so now I don't know if allowing it to swap is a good idea or not. right now it won't swap since I've got maybe 8MB ram left
#2817 [22:00] <brienza> Look on the bright side: you get free quaries.
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#2828 [22:37] <aetherian> what
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#2830 [22:38] <mib_l3qkf6> Minecraft crashes when I login
#2831 [22:38] <aetherian> boohoo.
#2832 [22:38] <aetherian> specs?
#2833 [22:38] <lemon-rev> explane crash ?
#2834 [22:38] <aetherian> you running mods?
#2835 [22:38] <mib_l3qkf6> no mods
#2836 [22:39] <aetherian> error report?
#2837 [22:39] <mib_l3qkf6> ya
#2838 [22:39] <xales> http://pastebin.com/ paste the error report, give us the link
#2839 [22:39] <mib_l3qkf6> http://pastebin.com/2apnJ7f5
#2840 [22:40] <xales> You need to update your graphics card driver
#2841 [22:40] <mib_l3qkf6> just did
#2842 [22:40] <mib_l3qkf6> still no dice
#2843 [22:41] <mib_l3qkf6> specs http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02016581&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&site=null&key=null&product=4160015
#2844 [22:41] <xales> ??> mib_l3qkf6 win/dxdiag
#2845 [22:41] <VoxelHead> mib_l3qkf6: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2846 [22:41] <VoxelHead> mib_l3qkf6: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#2848 [22:43] <mib_l3qkf6> dxdiag here http://pastebin.com/HUvKZB4s
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#2850 [22:43] <TobiX> Lam3r_co: The official Minecraft Beta server takes way to much RAM to run properly with only 384 MB. Cheap vserver, I suspect?
#2851 [22:43] <xales> mib_l3qkf6: have you restarted your computer since updating the driver?
#2852 [22:44] <Lam3r_co> TobiX: yeah, it's VPS meant for proxy use
#2853 [22:44] <mib_l3qkf6> yes
#2854 [22:44] <xales> mib_l3qkf6: make a new user account on your computer, and try it with that
#2855 [22:44] <danl> Is there a good way to migrate chunks from one map to another
#2856 [22:44] <mib_l3qkf6> ok
#2857 [22:44] <Lam3r_co> TobiX: well, it does run properly when we're close, but if someone goes exploring alone, chunks go missing
#2858 [22:44] <xales> danl: not to my knowledge
#2859 [22:45] <danl> that sucks
#2860 [22:45] <danl> we are having an issue with corruption spreading across our smp map
#2861 [22:45] <mib_l3qkf6> brb
#2862 [22:45] <danl> wanted to transplant known good chunks :(
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#2864 [22:59] <Ninjaturtels> Hey how do i make a server
#2865 [22:59] <xales> Download the software, run it
#2866 [22:59] <xales> if you are behind a router, port forward
#2867 [22:59] <Ninjaturtels> so my mates can join
#2868 [23:00] <xales> if you are being a router, then you port foward
#2869 [23:00] <Ninjaturtels> how do i port forward
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#2871 [23:00] <xales> http://portforward.com/ select the model of router you have, skip the advertisement that appears, then select "Minecraft server"
#2872 [23:00] <xales> then follow the instructions
#2873 [23:01] <Ninjaturtels> i dont know what i got for router
#2874 [23:01] <Ninjaturtels> its a dlink
#2875 [23:01] <xales> well, look on it then, it will say the model number
#2876 [23:02] <Ninjaturtels> should i dowload it
#2877 [23:02] <Ninjaturtels> ??
#2878 [23:03] <xales> download what?
#2879 [23:04] <xales> ??> Ninjaturtels irc/dontpm
#2880 [23:04] <VoxelHead> Ninjaturtels: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
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#2882 [23:05] <mib_dzwnrn> xales
#2883 [23:05] <xales> yes?
#2884 [23:05] <mib_dzwnrn> how do i when i dowloaded the port forward
#2885 [23:05] <xales> if it's telling you to download something, as I said, skip the advertisement
#2886 [23:05] <xales> click the "SKIP ADVERTISEMENT" in the corner
#2887 [23:05] <mib_dzwnrn> ok
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#2889 [23:07] <mib_dzwnrn> what shoulde i do when i have click on minecraft
#2890 [23:08] <LoRDTrevor> mib based on that chat log i doubt your computer is powerfull enough to forward a port
#2891 [23:08] <xales> follow the instructions it gives you
#2892 [23:08] <xales> LoRDTrevor: what?
#2893 [23:08] <LoRDTrevor> dont question
#2894 [23:08] <LoRDTrevor> please
#2895 [23:08] <aetherian> facepalm?
#2896 [23:08] <LoRDTrevor> hes still here
#2897 [23:08] <LoRDTrevor> shhhh
#2898 [23:08] <aetherian> um
#2899 [23:09] <aetherian> the I uh...
#2900 [23:09] <aetherian> nevermind
#2901 [23:09] <LoRDTrevor> actually i meant to say run a server
#2902 [23:09] <LoRDTrevor> total facepalm
#2903 [23:10] <aetherian> phew
#2904 [23:10] <xales> he isn't the same person above, LoRDTrevor
#2905 [23:10] <xales> ._.
#2906 [23:10] <LoRDTrevor> oh
#2907 [23:10] <LoRDTrevor> i jsut kinda tried to go with it....
#2908 [23:10] <LoRDTrevor> it didnt work
#2909 [23:14] * VoxelHead is back
#2909 [23:15] <LoRDTrevor> voxelhead i have a question.
#2910 [23:16] <LoRDTrevor> aww no useless paragraph of half made up rules :(
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#2912 [23:21] <rypervenche> For some reason when I try to connect to my personal server, it doesn't work anymore, and it creates a file named server.properties~ (with the tilda) next to the normal properties file. Why is this?
#2913 [23:24] <xales> Are you using any mods?
#2914 [23:24] <mib_dzwnrn> xales are you here
#2915 [23:24] <xales> aparrantly
#2916 [23:24] <rypervenche> xales: Nope. It was working fine a few days ago. I haven't changed anything since.
#2917 [23:24] <mib_dzwnrn> now i have doune it
#2918 [23:24] <mib_dzwnrn> donne it
#2919 [23:24] <mib_dzwnrn> what should i do now
#2920 [23:24] <xales> download the server from this link, and run it
#2921 [23:25] <xales> !server
#2922 [23:25] <mib_dzwnrn> dowload the software and?? just a regulariy setup
#2923 [23:25] <xales> rypervenche: what does the server console show?
#2924 [23:25] <xales> and how are you launching the server?
#2925 [23:25] <mib_dzwnrn> opening the server thing
#2926 [23:25] <rypervenche> xales: I got the server from the website. But I will try to reinstall it anyways. I am running it from CLI.
#2927 [23:26] <xales> mib_dzwnrn: I wasn't talking to you...
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#2929 [23:26] <mib_dzwnrn> im running mine on hamachi
#2930 [23:26] <mib_dzwnrn> and it dosent work
#2931 [23:26] <mib_dzwnrn> that well
#2932 [23:26] <xales> ??> mib_dzwnrn fubar/hamachi
#2933 [23:26] <VoxelHead> mib_dzwnrn: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2934 [23:26] <VoxelHead> mib_dzwnrn: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2935 [23:27] <LoRDTrevor> voxel
#2936 [23:27] <mib_dzwnrn> how do make a online server whitout hamachi
#2937 [23:27] <LoRDTrevor> hamachi tends to make more stable/lag free servers
#2938 [23:28] <LoRDTrevor> its done for a reason
#2939 [23:28] <xales> LoRDTrevor: Wrong, actually
#2940 [23:28] <xales> and VoxelHead is a bot :|
#2941 [23:28] <LoRDTrevor> voxelhead is not a bot
#2942 [23:28] <mib_dzwnrn> how do i get a server that is not on hamachi
#2943 [23:29] <LoRDTrevor> or at least not always
#2944 [23:29] <aetherian> he is not a bot!
#2945 [23:29] <aetherian> :o
#2946 [23:29] <xales> mib_dzwnrn: you do the port-forwarding step, then you give the IP you find at http://whatismyip.com/ to people who want to connect
#2947 [23:29] <VoxelHead> Boom.
#2948 [23:30] <mib_dzwnrn> dont i need to write it in ip on the server
#2949 [23:30] <xales> No, you MUST NOT do that
#2950 [23:30] <xales> if you put the IP in the server.properties, it will not work
#2951 [23:30] <xales> take it out if you put it there
#2952 [23:30] <mib_dzwnrn> ok
#2953 [23:31] <mib_dzwnrn> its says connection timed out when i try whit my ip
#2954 [23:32] <xales> Delete the server.properties file, after stopping the server, then run it again and try
#2955 [23:32] <mib_dzwnrn> still dosent wanna work
#2956 [23:33] <mib_dzwnrn> whats the problem??
#2957 [23:33] <rypervenche> Yeah, I redownloaded the jar file, I am running it in Linux...it was working fine before, but now nothing is happening when I try to connect. It runs fine, but nothing is connecting.
#2958 [23:34] <xales> mib_dzwnrn: try connecting to 'localhost' as the IP
#2959 [23:37] <rypervenche> oh nvm....forgot I started ufw without allowing the port ><
#2960 [23:37] <rypervenche> thanks though
#2961 [23:37] <xales> no problem
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#2965 [23:49] <mib_2nyx1o> xales
#2966 [23:49] <aetherian> la facepalm
#2967 [23:50] <mib_2nyx1o> i did the port forward thing but whitch ip should i use to join and i check so the ports was open to. what should i do??
#2968 [23:51] <mib_2nyx1o> Xales
#2969 [23:51] <aetherian> you know
#2970 [23:51] <mib_2nyx1o> what
#2971 [23:51] <aetherian> there are other people to help here as well
#2972 [23:51] <aetherian> not just xales, knowledgeable though he is
#2973 [23:51] <mib_2nyx1o> can you help me
#2974 [23:52] <mib_2nyx1o> ??
#2975 [23:52] <aetherian> most likely
#2976 [23:52] <mib_2nyx1o> :D
#2977 [23:52] <mib_2nyx1o> good
#2978 [23:52] <VoxelHead> goooooooooooooooood
#2979 [23:52] <aetherian> is this on a separate computer?
#2980 [23:52] <aetherian> shut up vox
#2981 [23:52] <mib_2nyx1o> yeah
#2982 [23:52] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#2982 [23:52] <aetherian> does the computer have a monitor?
#2983 [23:52] <mib_2nyx1o> but i wanna play so my mates can join
#2984 [23:52] <aetherian> I know
#2985 [23:53] <aetherian> but does it have a monitor?
#2986 [23:53] <mib_2nyx1o> monitor = screen??
#2987 [23:53] <aetherian> mmhmm
#2988 [23:53] <mib_2nyx1o> yeah
#2989 [23:53] <aetherian> can you go onto the computer?
#2990 [23:53] <mib_2nyx1o> im on it
#2991 [23:54] <mib_2nyx1o> its this one i want it on
#2992 [23:54] <aetherian> oh, you sai- nevermind
#2993 [23:54] <aetherian> 90.277.155.101
#2994 [23:54] <mib_2nyx1o> whats that
#2995 [23:54] <aetherian> is the server running?
#2996 [23:55] <mib_2nyx1o> yeah
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#2998 [23:55] <aetherian> well, I can't connect
#2999 [23:55] <mib_2nyx1o> its says unknown host for me
#3000 [23:55] <aetherian> unless you're using some weird proxy, then it's not forwarded
#3001 [23:56] <mib_2nyx1o> 90.227.155.101
#3002 [23:56] <aetherian> unless
#3003 [23:56] <mib_2nyx1o> i did come in now
#3004 [23:56] <mib_2nyx1o> lol
#3005 [23:56] <aetherian> um
#3006 [23:56] <aetherian> something's up with your extern
#3007 [23:56] <mib_2nyx1o> ok
#3008 [23:56] <aetherian> you're not using some weird proxy, I assume?
#3009 [23:57] <mib_2nyx1o> i dont know
#3010 [23:57] <aetherian> .-.
#3011 [23:57] <mib_2nyx1o> haha
#3012 [23:57] <aetherian> ./facepalm
#3013 [23:57] <VoxelHead> ah yes... uh... crohakon! and how is the happiness probe in your brain doing today, FILTHY HUMAN?
#3014 [23:57] <aetherian> vox, cloak
#3015 [23:57] <VoxelHead> Already running cloaked, sir
#3016 [23:57] <aetherian> vox, uncloak
#3017 [23:57] <mib_2nyx1o> you just love me dont ya :D
#3018 [23:57] <aetherian> oh sure
#3019 [23:57] <mib_2nyx1o> :D
#3020 [23:57] <aetherian> I also love eating meat
#3021 [23:57] <aetherian> >:
#3022 [23:57] <VoxelHead> =]
#3023 [23:57] <mib_2nyx1o> same
#3024 [23:58] <aetherian> ...
#3025 [23:58] <aetherian> oookaay
#3026 [23:58] <mib_2nyx1o> just when its a epic meal :D
#3027 [23:58] <mib_2nyx1o> okay :D
#3028 [23:58] <aetherian> be right back, gotta put something in another room
#3029 [23:58] <mib_2nyx1o> lets figure this out
#3030 [23:59] <aetherian> back
#3031 [23:59] <aetherian> so your router is supposedly portforwarded?
#3032 [23:59] <mib_2nyx1o> yeah