#MinecraftHelp > 2011-03-26
#1 [00:00] <mib_2nyx1o> i did fix it so its open
#2 [00:00] <mib_2nyx1o> or somthing like that
#3 [00:00] <aetherian> and I assume you're connected to the internet, else you would not be talking here
#4 [00:00] <mib_2nyx1o> :D
#5 [00:00] <mib_2nyx1o> yeah
#6 [00:00] <VoxelHead> =)
#7 [00:00] <aetherian> go to whatismyip.org or .com or whatever, and tell me your ip
#8 [00:00] <aetherian> because I obviously can't see it right, if I can't even bloody ping you
#9 [00:01] <mib_2nyx1o> 90.227.155.101
#10 [00:01] <aetherian> uh oh
#11 [00:02] <mib_2nyx1o> how do i check so its portforwarded
#12 [00:02] <aetherian> hang on
#13 [00:02] <mib_2nyx1o> ok
#14 [00:03] <aetherian> there
#15 [00:03] <aetherian> check the server
#16 [00:04] <mib_2nyx1o> Ty so much m8
#17 [00:04] <aetherian> hang on
#18 [00:04] <aetherian> are you using the client on the same computer as the server?
#19 [00:05] <mib_2nyx1o> yeah
#20 [00:05] <aetherian> you're connecting to 127.0.0.1, I assume?
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#22 [00:05] <mib_2nyx1o> when i connect to the minecraft server??
#23 [00:05] <aetherian> yes
#24 [00:05] <mib_2nyx1o> i connect to 90.227.155.101
#25 [00:05] <aetherian> if you are using the game on the same computer as the server software
#26 [00:06] <mib_2nyx1o> yeah
#27 [00:06] <mib_2nyx1o> i do
#28 [00:06] <xales> mib_2nyx1o: connect to '127.0.0.1'
#29 [00:06] <aetherian> connect to 127.0.0.1
#30 [00:06] <aetherian> otherwise, 90.227.155.101
#31 [00:06] <aetherian> unless you are on the same LAN
#32 [00:06] <aetherian> if you're on a different computer, but the same LAN, connect to your internal IP address, iirc
#33 [00:06] <aetherian> you came :)
#34 [00:07] <aetherian> wut
#35 [00:07] <mib_2nyx1o> ok
#36 [00:07] <mib_2nyx1o> :D
#37 [00:07] <VoxelHead> :o)
#38 [00:07] <aetherian> wait, I thought it was 4 messages in 5 seconds?
#39 [00:07] <aetherian> I don't understand...
#40 [00:08] <aetherian> um
#41 [00:08] <xales> you lagged, aetherian
#42 [00:08] <xales> lol
#43 [00:08] <aetherian> oh, uh
#44 [00:08] <aetherian> still confused, but whatever
#45 [00:08] <aetherian> oh I see
#46 [00:09] <aetherian> fail
#47 [00:09] <mib_2nyx1o> :D
#48 [00:09] <aetherian> um
#49 [00:09] <aetherian> it never removed me, haha
#50 [00:09] <VoxelHead> AARGH! The "hideous" mutant squid has escaped again and has created an army of cyborg zombie soldiers to do its evil bidding!
#51 [00:09] <mib_2nyx1o> what
#52 [00:09] <aetherian> (and it sent that message twice about not speaking, I musta really lagged)
#53 [00:10] <mib_2nyx1o> whitch ip did you use aetherian when you did join
#54 [00:11] <aetherian> I used the... 90.227.whatever.stillwhatever
#55 [00:11] <mib_2nyx1o> ok
#56 [00:11] <mib_2nyx1o> so now it works
#57 [00:11] <aetherian> but remember, if a friend's on the same LAN as you
#58 [00:11] <aetherian> use the local address :)
#59 [00:11] <mib_2nyx1o> ok
#60 [00:12] <mib_2nyx1o> ty for help m8 it realy helped
#61 [00:12] <mib_2nyx1o> so thanks alot
#62 [00:12] <mib_2nyx1o> cya
#63 [00:12] <aetherian> bye
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#65 [00:13] <aetherian> sigh
#66 [00:13] <aetherian> is it really that hard to change a name on mibbit?
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#68 [00:16] <aetherian> is it just me, or is running a 64 bit VM in a 32 bit OS just kinds creepy?
#69 [00:19] <aetherian> I guess it's just me
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#73 [00:29] <Massacredz> Hello
#74 [00:30] <Massacredz> I really need some help with hosting a server with four friends.
#75 [00:30] <xales> What part of it do you need help with?
#76 [00:30] <Massacredz> I5 Core, 3GB, ATI 6850, 3mb Bandwidth
#77 [00:30] <Massacredz> Ports opened
#78 [00:31] <Massacredz> java bat running
#79 [00:31] <Massacredz> pause java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=2 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar minecraft_server.exe gui pause
#80 [00:31] <xales> okay...
#81 [00:31] <Massacredz> java environment values added
#82 [00:31] <xales> what happens when someone tries to connect?
#83 [00:31] <Massacredz> yet we still get delay after 2 people
#84 [00:31] <Massacredz> people connect
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#86 [00:31] <Massacredz> just massive delay past 2 people
#87 [00:32] <Massacredz> I don't under stand why anti virus off, firewall off java is up to date
#88 [00:32] <Massacredz> can i allocate more memory?
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#90 [00:32] <xales> How fast is your CPU, and can you paste the link from http://speedtest.net/ results please
#91 [00:33] <Massacredz> 2.7 Stock 3.2-3.4 Turbo
#92 [00:33] <Massacredz> I5 Quad Core
#93 [00:36] <Massacredz> wow wtf .61 mbs i pay for 3.5 wtf
#94 [00:36] <Massacredz> one sec
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#96 [00:41] <Massacredzz> hey
#97 [00:41] <Massacredzz> I turned of my static ip
#98 [00:42] <Massacredzz> its back up to 2.7 mbs
#99 [00:42] <xales> "static ip"?
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#101 [00:42] * xales brb sec
#101 [00:42] <Massacredzz> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1220838342.png
#102 [00:43] <aetherian> heh
#103 [00:43] <aetherian> "nice upload"
#104 [00:43] <VoxelHead> =]
#105 [00:43] <Massacredzz> ;/
#106 [00:43] <Massacredzz> bad?
#107 [00:44] <Massacredzz> is it?
#108 [00:44] <DopeGhoti> Rather, yes
#109 [00:44] <DopeGhoti> looks like a slow, slow DSL connection.
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#111 [00:45] <Massacredzz> shouldn't have no problem hosting with 4 people though
#112 [00:45] <aetherian> I'm on a fast (relatively) DSL :)
#113 [00:45] <Massacredzz> i've done it before....
#114 [00:46] <DopeGhoti> whaat? 256kbps host four on Minecraft? Not likely, sorry
#115 [00:46] <Massacredzz> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1220840353.png
#116 [00:46] <Massacredzz> what about that
#117 [00:46] <AG_Scott> That's probably 3-4 players
#118 [00:47] <AG_Scott> its about .25Mb/s for each player i think
#119 [00:47] <Massacredzz> problem is
#120 [00:47] <Massacredzz> he's pc sucks
#121 [00:49] <Massacredzz> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4700 @ 2.60GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
#122 [00:49] <Massacredzz> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1220842684.png
#123 [00:49] <Massacredzz> .....
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#125 [00:49] <Massacredzz> found a friend with that
#126 [00:49] <Massacredzz> jeeezus
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#128 [00:50] <Massacredzz> help me with batch file please
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#130 [00:50] <Massacredzz> pause java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XX:ParallelGCThreads=2 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar minecraft_server.exe gui pause
#131 [00:50] <Massacredzz> how can i allocate more for
#132 [00:51] <Massacredzz> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1220844558.png
#133 [00:51] <chayne> can someone help me with modding plz?
#134 [00:51] <xales> ??> chayne mods
#135 [00:51] <VoxelHead> chayne: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#136 [00:51] <VoxelHead> chayne: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#139 [00:54] <DopeGhoti> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1220845746.png <-- This is with an active Minecraft server, both Hulu and Netflix in use, and two computers downloading games on Steam
#140 [00:54] <ronjn> is there a known bug that causes hostile mobs not to spawn on a smp server?
#141 [00:54] <aetherian> pfft, DopeGhoti
#142 [00:55] <aetherian> only 79ms ping?
#143 [00:55] <VoxelHead> that's quite a lot
#144 [00:55] <aetherian> try to raise that, man
#145 [00:55] <Massacredzz> dope
#146 [00:55] <Massacredzz> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1220844558.png
#147 [00:55] <DopeGhoti> it's usually closer to 25ms
#148 [00:55] <Massacredzz> pause java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+CMSIncrementalPacing -XXarallelGCThreads=2 -XX:+AggressiveOpts -jar minecraft_server.exe gui pause
#149 [00:56] <DopeGhoti> please stop pasting that command line.
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#151 [00:56] <Massacredzz> how can i change that for his pc? allocate more mermory?
#152 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M
#153 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> -Xms is starting allocation, -Xmx is max
#154 [00:57] <Massacredzz> is that as high as you can go 1024
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#156 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> No
#157 [00:59] <Massacredzz> how much should allocate for 4-5 people
#158 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> 1024 should be fine for that amount
#159 [01:01] <Massacredzz> when do u go higher and to what
#160 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Then you decide to have more than 10 people on at once
#161 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Er, when
#162 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Give each concurrent player roughly about 100-150 megs of RAM, and you'll see how much you'll need to allocate
#163 [01:03] <nanotron> Wishes most of these MODs worked in SMP.
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#169 [01:17] <Caironater> has anyone else been having problems with Minecraft crashing lots recently?
#170 [01:18] <xales> Are you using any mods?
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#173 [01:27] <Caironater> no
#174 [01:27] <xales> Try turning off smooth lighting and turning down the render distance
#175 [01:28] <Caironater> i dont play with smooth lighting and i normally play on default length
#176 [01:30] <xales> ??> Caironater win/reinst
#177 [01:30] <VoxelHead> Caironater: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#178 [01:30] <VoxelHead> Caironater: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#179 [01:30] <Caironater> i dont use windows anyway
#180 [01:30] <Caironater> and ive done that
#181 [01:30] <xales> what OS?
#182 [01:30] <Caironater> linux/macosx
#183 [01:31] <xales> Does it crash under both?
#184 [01:31] <Caironater> idk about linux
#185 [01:32] <Caironater> i dont play on it much
#186 [01:32] <Caironater> but it crashes a fair bit on the mac
#187 [01:32] <xales> That might just be a normal thing
#188 [01:32] <Caironater> it didnt happen before 1.3_01
#189 [01:33] <xales> Yes, by "normal thing" I mean "common bug"
#190 [01:33] <xales> Just wait until the update, it may be fixed.
#191 [01:35] <Caironater> which was why i asked here...
#192 [01:36] <Caironater> <Caironater> has anyone else been having problems with Minecraft crashing lots recently?
#193 [01:36] <xales> Most people haven't
#194 [01:36] <xales> But most people don't play on Mac OS X
#195 [01:37] <Caironater> heh
#196 [01:37] <VoxelHead> ;)
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#198 [01:39] <Oranges> Hello
#199 [01:39] <Oranges> Anyone on?
#200 [01:43] <Chr|s> how do you get rid of slimes?
#201 [01:43] <Chr|s> they are so annoying
#202 [01:44] <xales> you could use a mod, but that's it
#203 [01:45] <Chr|s> didn't know they can kill ya
#204 [01:45] <Chr|s> servercraft.co lags bad
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#207 [01:58] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
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#211 [02:05] <bubblefish4> i need help
#212 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> with?
#213 [02:06] <bubblefish4> when i play offline i get this error message
#214 [02:06] <bubblefish4> http://mibpaste.com/EzCFwr
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#216 [02:06] <bubblefish4> can you help me?
#217 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Updated your video drivers?
#218 [02:06] <bubblefish4> i can play online
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#220 [02:06] <bubblefish4> with no trouble
#221 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have on the system?
#222 [02:07] <bubblefish4> ill check
#223 [02:07] <bubblefish4> wait how do i check?
#224 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what operating system you're on
#225 [02:07] <bubblefish4> windows xp
#226 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Go to your "My Computer", right click on it and go to "properties"
#227 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell you how much RAM you have there
#228 [02:08] <bubblefish4> 0.99 gb
#229 [02:08] <bubblefish4> of ram
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#231 [02:09] <bubblefish4> is that enough?
#232 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope, that is why.
#233 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> I assume you're on an integrated video card?
#234 [02:09] <bubblefish4> how juch do i need
#235 [02:09] <bubblefish4> i think so
#236 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's because your integrated video card is fighting for RAM as well.
#237 [02:10] <bubblefish4> okay thanks
#238 [02:10] <bubblefish4> cya
#239 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is trying to reserve 512-1gig of ram, so is your operating system, and your video card
#240 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> it's a simple solution
#241 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#242 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Go there, download the .jar file, and launch it with reduced RAM requirements
#243 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#244 [02:10] <bubblefish4> ? how do i do that
#245 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#246 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Go there. Download the linux .jar file
#247 [02:11] <bubblefish4> okay thanks
#248 [02:11] <bubblefish4> cya
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#250 [02:11] <bubblefish4> nope same message
#251 [02:11] <bubblefish4> ill be back later
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#260 [02:50] <bubblefish4> im back
#261 [02:50] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE back? feel these nipples!
#262 [02:50] <bubblefish4> im back
#263 [02:50] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE back? feel these nipples!
#264 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Yo
#265 [02:50] <bubblefish4> just seeing if it was a bot and i was right
#266 [02:50] <bubblefish4> hi
#267 [02:50] <bubblefish4> ummmm
#268 [02:51] <bubblefish4> i still need help from before
#269 [02:51] <bubblefish4> did i tell you the problem GreyVulpine?
#270 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Okay. Yes
#271 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Did you get the .jar?
#272 [02:51] <bubblefish4> how do i solve it?
#273 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to execute it via command line?
#274 [02:51] <bubblefish4> yes i got it
#275 [02:51] <bubblefish4> nope
#276 [02:52] <bubblefish4> how?
#277 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Okay, um, easy way to do it, is with a batch file
#278 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Go to the location where you downloaded the minecraft.jar file
#279 [02:52] <bubblefish4> so how?
#280 [02:52] <bubblefish4> okau
#281 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Make a new text file here.
#282 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Open it in notepad, paste this in:
#283 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#284 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Go up to "Save As" in notepad, save it as "All files", and rename it to launch.bat
#285 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> This'll make a batch file, essentially running it with command line.
#286 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Then run minecraft via that .bat file
#287 [02:54] <aetherian> heh, .bat is the .sh of windows
#288 [02:54] <bubblefish4> do i code it in ansi?
#289 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#290 [02:54] * bread feels VoxelHead's nipples.
#290 [02:54] <bubblefish4> sorry encode
#291 [02:54] <VoxelHead> *boing*
#292 [02:54] <aetherian> bread: wut
#293 [02:54] <bread> bwahaha
#294 [02:54] <VoxelHead> Behold the fortress of pain.
#295 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead, shut up
#296 [02:54] <bubblefish4> encode it in what?
#297 [02:55] <VoxelHead> :(
#298 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> ANSI should be fine
#299 [02:55] <aetherian> wait
#300 [02:55] <bubblefish4> k thanks
#301 [02:55] <aetherian> how can bread feel anything
#302 [02:55] <bread> VoxelHead, I love you!
#303 [02:55] <aetherian> it's... bread
#304 [02:55] <bread> pfft
#305 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> Does it work bubblefish4?
#306 [02:55] <bubblefish4> nope
#307 [02:55] <aetherian> bread: don't you mean " VoxelHead, I loaf you DOUGH much :D"
#308 [02:55] <bread> \o/
#309 [02:55] <bubblefish4> did i need a link to the game?
#310 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Launch it via the .bat file that you just made
#311 [02:56] <aetherian> bread: bit.ly/breadhappy is you, right?
#312 [02:57] <bubblefish4> did i need a link to the game in the batch file?
#313 [02:57] <bread> no! this is me aetherian http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/randompics/tacticalbread.jpg
#314 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> No, the line that you put in, should be sufficient to link to the game
#315 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> As long as you have the .bat file in the same folder as minecraft.jar
#316 [02:57] <aetherian> bread: you already showed me that
#317 [02:57] <bread> but it's still me!
#318 [02:57] <bubblefish4> ohs
#319 [02:58] <aetherian> nonono
#320 [02:58] <aetherian> bread
#321 [02:59] <aetherian> http://istockpho.to/gWK4yu :D
#322 [02:59] <bubblefish4> thank you GreyVulpine you are awesome!
#323 [02:59] <bubblefish4> :D
#324 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing, glad to help
#325 [02:59] <bread> aetherian: >:[
#326 [02:59] <bubblefish4> in other words it worked thank you
#327 [02:59] <aetherian> bread: <:D
#328 [02:59] <bubblefish4> now the modloader
#329 [02:59] <bubblefish4> should i install this?
#330 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Only if you want to, I unfortunately do not have any experience with the modloader
#331 [03:00] <bubblefish4> okay
#332 [03:00] <bubblefish4> i will try
#333 [03:00] <bubblefish4> to install it
#334 [03:00] <bubblefish4> it gave me trouble because i used the online version
#335 [03:00] <bubblefish4> it does not work online
#336 [03:01] <bubblefish4> only offline
#337 [03:02] <bubblefish4> anyways have a good day everyone
#338 [03:02] * GreyVulpine waves
#338 [03:02] * bubblefish4 waves back
#338 [03:03] <bubblefish4> cya
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#340 [03:03] <aetherian> HAPPY MARCH 26th :D
#341 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Happy WoM weekend
#342 [03:03] <aetherian> eh?
#343 [03:04] <bread> WORLD OF MOTHERS!?
#344 [03:04] <bread> I love that game!
#345 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> http://weekendofminecraft.net/
#346 [03:04] <bread> :O
#347 [03:04] <aetherian> that's what your mo- on nevermind
#348 [03:04] <VoxelHead> Blimey.
#349 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#350 [03:04] <VoxelHead> Fine.
#351 [03:04] <bread> today is the day of espernet's SOFTWARE CHANGE too!
#352 [03:05] <aetherian> vox, fire everything at whoever you want
#353 [03:05] <bread> me me me!
#354 [03:06] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial bread
#355 [03:06] <aetherian> anyway
#356 [03:06] <bread> :D
#357 [03:06] <bread> are you guys ready for the new IRC softwareee \o/
#358 [03:06] <aetherian> I'm doing what every sane person must do if they find they have a tepid grasp on reality because of lack of sleep
#359 [03:06] <aetherian> psychedelic rock :D
#360 [03:06] <aetherian> listening to, that is
#361 [03:07] <aetherian> and I don't get what will actually be changing with the software change
#362 [03:07] <bread> http://esper.net/migration.php
#363 [03:07] <bread> \o/
#364 [03:08] <aetherian> I saw that >.>
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#367 [03:13] <bread> :O
#368 [03:13] <VoxelHead> well shut me up
#369 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#370 [03:13] * VoxelHead talks to HoboPickle instead
#370 [03:14] <aetherian> :o
#371 [03:15] <bread> talk to me VoxelHead !
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#374 [03:17] <aetherian> VoxelHead: talk to bread
#375 [03:17] <bread> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6OtFKNDPUc
#376 [03:18] <aetherian> .-.
#377 [03:18] <aetherian> vox, eat bread
#378 [03:18] * VoxelHead eats bread
#378 [03:18] <aetherian> :D
#379 [03:19] <bread> :D
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#381 [03:19] <bread> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6OtFKNDPUc
#382 [03:19] <bread> oh same one
#383 [03:19] <bread> lol
#384 [03:25] * HoboPickle grumbles something about cucumbers at VoxelHead
#384 [03:25] * VoxelHead grahics HoboPickle in return
#384 [03:26] <aetherian> yay :D
#385 [03:26] <aetherian> finished another webcomic from the ground up :D
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#387 [03:30] * HoboPickle thinks VoxelHead should join him on his adventure to jump on a trampeline in the sea.
#387 [03:30] * VoxelHead thinks HoboPickle back with an integrated video
#387 [03:36] <aetherian> guys
#388 [03:36] <aetherian> random poll time
#389 [03:36] <aetherian> what word processing software do you guys use?
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#391 [03:37] <CarpeMofo> Does In-Game Invedit not work with the newest version of minecraft?
#392 [03:37] <aetherian> In-game invedit o.o
#393 [03:38] <CarpeMofo> Yeah, it's a mod.
#394 [03:40] <CarpeMofo> Thought maybe someone in here used it and noticed if the last update broke it or something.
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#396 [03:43] <mib_vgo8hc> guys, i need some help / advice.. with my minecraft account..
#397 [03:43] <aetherian> ...
#398 [03:43] <aetherian> what.
#399 [03:44] <mib_vgo8hc> When I bought my account. I didn't think my "username" would be my in game name.
#400 [03:44] <mib_vgo8hc> can I change my username
#401 [03:44] <mib_vgo8hc> because my username is my full name
#402 [03:44] <mib_vgo8hc> ?
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#404 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
#405 [03:46] <mib_vgo8hc> don't u think the server admin could just edit it in the database?
#406 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, it's not that easy
#407 [03:46] <mib_vgo8hc> hmm.
#408 [03:46] <mib_vgo8hc> damn. :(
#409 [03:46] <aetherian> what else would an in-game name be but a username o.o
#410 [03:46] <aetherian> that is
#411 [03:46] <aetherian> in this scenario
#412 [03:46] * GreyVulpine coughs Steam
#412 [03:47] <mib_vgo8hc> well I thought it be like the mmo character naming system or something like that
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#414 [03:48] <aetherian> I've actually never gotten anything from steam/did anything more than make an account for safety
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#418 [03:55] <aetherian> oh my bad GreyVulpine
#419 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#420 [03:56] <aetherian> sorry I misinterpreted you.
#421 [03:56] <aetherian> it...
#422 [03:56] <aetherian> it must hurt to cough steam
#423 [03:56] <aetherian> (heh)
#424 [03:56] <aetherian> you can laugh anyday now ):-(
#425 [03:58] <aetherian> *crickets chirp*\
#426 [03:58] <aetherian> ./laugh.py
#427 [03:58] <aetherian> oh well, maybe tomorrow
#428 [03:59] <aetherian> heh
#429 [03:59] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#430 [03:59] <aetherian> itunes just emailed me
#431 [03:59] <aetherian> I've had like 5 bucks in that for months
#432 [03:59] <aetherian> maybe over a year
#433 [04:00] <aetherian> come now people
#434 [04:00] <aetherian> quit being so antisocial
#435 [04:01] <aetherian> yay, the kickstarter ended :D
#436 [04:01] <aetherian> :O
#437 [04:01] <VoxelHead> Good heavens.
#438 [04:01] <aetherian> no kidding
#439 [04:01] <aetherian> over a thousand people pledged in the 60 or more
#440 [04:01] <aetherian> and nearly 1250 people pledged in the 30 or more
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#442 [04:02] <aetherian> oh. my. god.
#443 [04:02] <aetherian> 2 people pledged 10k or more
#444 [04:02] <aetherian> three pledging 2.5k or more
#445 [04:03] <aetherian> but wow, not even 1500 people are getting a creeper windup toy
#446 [04:03] <aetherian> I bet I'll see some idiots selling theirs on ebay for ~50 when they get them
#447 [04:04] <aetherian> well!
#448 [04:04] <aetherian> lovely as it is to chat with you all
#449 [04:04] <aetherian> I am heading to bed
#450 [04:04] <aetherian> goodnight()
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#454 [04:17] <eiiaiouju> Is this channel for general help with mechanics? I would like some advice on how to best create a particular water feature that I have in mind.
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#456 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> eiiaiouju, Yes
#457 [04:22] <eiiaiouju> Ok. I need to take a few screenshots to show you what I am trying to do.
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#460 [04:40] <eiiaiouju> http://www.flickr.com/photos/40057219@N07/sets/72157626229988799/
#461 [04:41] <eiiaiouju> Please let me know if you cannot see that. I just created the account so I can share the screenshots.
#462 [04:42] <eiiaiouju> I have a glass 4x4 grid that is beneath the water level. It is a wall to one of my shelters and I would like to make the water flow as close as possible to the topmost glass brick.
#463 [04:43] <eiiaiouju> I would appreciate any help at all. If you would like to see a different view let me know.
#464 [04:44] <lemon-rev> so along that pain of glass you want a waterfall
#465 [04:45] <eiiaiouju> you know that might be cool too. initially I wanted a huge reservoir off to the left side of the glass where you see the water coming down.
#466 [04:45] <eiiaiouju> but I think the water will not behave the way I want it to. :)
#467 [04:46] <eiiaiouju> initially I wanted that whole area to just be filled with water but I don't think it's going to happen.
#468 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#469 [04:47] <lemon-rev> hm, you could play with the water fall off to the left of the glass if you really wanted to but, it wont look good and would look strange to be free flating appart from how it looks atm
#470 [04:49] <eiiaiouju> I also need to consider random mobs floating in. So far I have found a cow, a pig, a sheep, and two chickens caught down there. Also a creeper. :/
#471 [04:49] <lemon-rev> maybe put a stream of hot lava lol
#472 [04:51] <eiiaiouju> I haven't encountered lava yet. I built an underground reservoir so I can go fishing without being bothered by monsters though. :)
#473 [04:51] <lemon-rev> oh, i see, well theres water and lava if you keep digging around bedrock level or just a few levels above it lol
#474 [04:52] <eiiaiouju> I will keep a look out for it.
#475 [04:54] <eiiaiouju> I thought about dumping water in the area with a bucket but that would take a long time
#476 [04:58] <lemon-rev> well as i said you could play with the waterfall you have already from that brick work, add extra bricks under it so the water can flow that way but then you just have an odd water flow
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#478 [05:00] <eiiaiouju> It is odd. I thought I would create more of a torrent by sloping the sand pointing towards the glass but it did not pan out.
#479 [05:01] <eiiaiouju> *sloping the sand down
#480 [05:01] <lemon-rev> yea from that waterfall
#481 [05:01] <lemon-rev> would have to start from where you have that cobble ledge
#482 [05:04] <eiiaiouju> I will work on it. Thanks for the advice.
#483 [05:06] <eiiaiouju> lol cows just look funny bouncing around in the water
#484 [05:06] <eiiaiouju> ok thanks
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#492 [05:22] <Taz605> How can i find out my server ip?
#493 [05:23] <xales> http://whatismyip.com/
#494 [05:23] <Taz605> that'll be the ip mt friend conect to?
#495 [05:24] <xales> if you port forwarded, yes
#496 [05:24] <Taz605> ok
#497 [05:24] <Taz605> thanks
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#502 [05:33] <Wolliwonker> Hi
#503 [05:34] <xales> hello
#504 [05:34] <Wolliwonker> Do you know why minecraft.net says that my account is not Premium although I bought the game about 3 Months ago?
#505 [05:35] <xales> the payment failed/was charged back or you are using the wrong username
#506 [05:35] <Wolliwonker> That I'm using the wrong Username is not possible
#507 [05:35] <Wolliwonker> But thanks for the other Ideo
#508 [05:35] <Wolliwonker> I will ask my friend who gave me the gift code
#509 [05:36] <Wolliwonker> bb
#510 [05:36] <lukegb> there's a thought. can you chargeback used giftcodes?
#511 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure you can
#512 [05:37] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: still not on the VOP list ;D
#513 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Guy came by yesterday, who bought minecraft from a third-party forum
#514 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#515 [05:37] <lukegb> Do it quick, before xales breaks everything with the migration
#516 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Then, got un... de? premium-ied
#517 [05:37] <xales> lukegb: why would I break stuff?
#518 [05:37] <xales> :|
#519 [05:37] <xales> I'm not involved in it at all
#520 [05:38] <lukegb> xales: but you're an @ in #help, so I pin all of my network frustrations at you
#521 [05:38] <xales> lukegb: :<
#522 [05:38] <lukegb> <3
#523 [05:39] <lukegb> I just tried Ctrl-Ring in my IRC client >_>
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#526 [05:56] <Aska990> hello
#527 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#528 [05:58] <Aska990> can you help me
#529 [05:58] <Aska990> ?
#530 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> With?
#531 [05:58] <Aska990> we are three friends playing Minecraft
#532 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#533 [05:58] <Aska990> sometimes we play on multiplayer
#534 [05:59] <Aska990> when we are only two on the server, it works fine
#535 [05:59] <Aska990> when we are three, there is a huge lag
#536 [06:00] <Aska990> but the problem is not the connection
#537 [06:00] <Aska990> because, the person who hosts the server has lags too
#538 [06:00] <Aska990> (sorry if the english is not faultless)
#539 [06:00] <xales> That probably means their computer can't keep up with running the server
#540 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> Then probably, the server can't support that many players
#541 [06:01] <Aska990> he has a very good PC
#542 [06:01] <Aska990> 6 Go RAM, i7 CPU
#543 [06:01] <xales> How is he running the server?
#544 [06:02] <Aska990> How ?
#545 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> What kind of internet connection?
#546 [06:02] <xales> What method is he using to start it
#547 [06:02] <Aska990> no, it can not be the connection, he has lag on his own server
#548 [06:03] <xales> That does not eliminate his connection
#549 [06:03] <Aska990> he runs it with Bukkit
#550 [06:03] <xales> No, what does he do to start it
#551 [06:03] <xales> what file does he click to open it
#552 [06:04] <Aska990> "Run.bat"
#553 [06:04] <xales> Make sure he specified enough RAM to use in that file
#554 [06:06] <Aska990> How can you do this ?
#555 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Have him paste the contents of Run.bat
#556 [06:08] <Aska990> @ECHO OFF
#557 [06:08] <Aska990> SET BINDIR=%~dp0
#558 [06:08] <Aska990> "%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xincgc -Xmx1G -jar "c:\Users\Monnom\Desktop\minebukkit\craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar"
#559 [06:08] <Aska990> PAUSE
#560 [06:08] <Aska990> this is what is in his Run.bat
#561 [06:11] <Aska990> (I'm with him on SKype)
#562 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> I don't understand why he's got -Xincgc, but has no other garbage collection arguments along with it
#563 [06:12] <Aska990> what is -Xincgc ?
#564 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> It's the garbage collection argument
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#567 [06:15] <RickAstley> tinnnn tinnnnnnn tin tinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn tinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
#568 [06:17] <Ruddle> wai salut
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#570 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#571 [06:17] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.515 seconds.
#572 [06:17] <Aska990> Ruddle (the guy who just connect) is the man who hosts our server
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#574 [06:24] <Aska990> sorry, what do you mean with "garbage collection argument" ?
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#576 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Basically, the -Xincgc argument disables incremental garbage collection, which is how java frees up stuff that it doesn't use anymore
#577 [06:33] <Aska990> -Xmx1G defines how many RAM is used ?
#578 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> It defines the maximum amount of RAM that the server will allocate, yes
#579 [06:35] <AG_Scott> Not true.
#580 [06:35] <AG_Scott> That's the heap size.
#581 [06:35] <AG_Scott> It will use more if it's available (whether it be physical ram or swap)
#582 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Erm, it defines the maximum heap size that the server will use, doesn't it?
#583 [06:36] <Aska990> what is "heap" ?
#584 [06:37] <AG_Scott> yes GreyVulpine but it will still use more.
#585 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> It.. will?
#586 [06:38] <xales> GreyVulpine: Heap + stack = total memory use
#587 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see where you're coming from
#588 [06:42] <Aska990> so, the problem can not come from this -Xmx1G ?
#589 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Not exactly sure. What else do you have running on the server besides bukkit? What plugins do you have loaded? How are you guys connecting?
#590 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> What options are enabled on the server? Is monsters on?
#591 [06:47] <Ruddle> monsters on , just one plugin "minecart mania" , 3 guys on the server
#592 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Could you try turning monsters off, see if that makes any difference at all?
#593 [06:47] <Ruddle> ok
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#595 [06:51] <Ruddle> owww, it's works ,no lag without animals and monster
#596 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Yup, I suspected that. Some servers have an issue with 1.3, and turning off monsters helps.
#597 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> For some reason, I can't explain it, but I chalk it up to the latest patch
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#599 [06:53] <Ruddle> thanks for your help
#600 [06:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#600 [06:56] <fogWraith> GreyVulpine, I have a problem, help me... the plugin won't build
#601 [06:56] <fogWraith> Says so with red text
#602 [06:56] <fogWraith> WHAT DO!?
#603 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#604 [06:58] <fogWraith> I know why it won't, but the reason is just silly :|
#605 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> I'm not familiar at all with bukkit..
#606 [06:58] <fogWraith> If does a check for wether we want it to be true or false, but there is a check for this variable right under the if / else... which makes it say... "DOOD, NO FIND SYMBOL!!!"
#607 [06:59] <fogWraith> General Java, father :)
#608 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
#609 [07:00] <fogWraith> If I define the variable before the if / else clause... it will error the variable within that one, but say its okay after the if / else... but if I define the variable under the if / else, the variable will be set to something I don't want ... for some reason ;P
#610 [07:00] <fogWraith> I don't want to export this to a seperate function
#611 [07:00] <fogWraith> ;_;
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#613 [07:01] <fogWraith> But then, I don't feel like the smrtst tool just after I wake up
#614 [07:01] <fogWraith> Fix't
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#623 [07:33] <limeboy> anyone knows how i can download my skin ?
#624 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. sec
#625 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/YourName.png
#626 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Make sure YourName is caps-sensitive
#627 [07:35] <limeboy> ok
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#630 [07:36] <limeboy> and?
#631 [07:36] <bugweiser> Hey my mate tries to join my server and he get bad login and end of stream all the time what should we do he could join yesterday
#632 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> It should give you a download dialog limeboy
#633 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> if you put in the right name
#634 [07:37] <bugweiser> grey are you talking to me??
#635 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> no bugweiser
#636 [07:37] <bugweiser> can sommone help me??
#637 [07:37] <limeboy> where?
#638 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> limeboy - In your browser
#639 [07:38] <limeboy> ahh thanks ^^
#640 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> bugweiser - Hmm, have him reinstall minecraft via the options -> force game update button?
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#642 [07:41] <AlessPlaya> HEY My Account is not longer premium..
#643 [07:41] <AlessPlaya> why..
#644 [07:42] <AlessPlaya> Message:The individual who purchased the gift code that was used to activate your account used an exploit in the purchase process, and the activation has now been reverted. To regain premium status I suggest you buy the game directly from minecraft.net, and not some third party. Let me know if you have any questions. Regards, Tobias. Mojang.
#645 [07:42] <xales> AlessPlaya: Then whoever paid for the gift code did not buy it properly
#646 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> Oh yeah, you were the guy yesterday who bought minecraft from that forum person
#647 [07:43] <bugweiser> Hey my mate tries to join my server and he get bad login and end of stream all the time what should we do he could join yesterday
#648 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> bugweiser - Hmm, have him reinstall minecraft via the options -> force game update button?
#649 [07:43] <bugweiser> ok
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#651 [07:44] <Musashi_Miyamoto> Hello
#652 [07:44] <Musashi_Miyamoto> Is there anybody ?
#653 [07:44] <xales> Yes
#654 [07:44] <lukegb> No
#655 [07:45] <Musashi_Miyamoto> I have a problem with Minecraft, that's why I'm here
#656 [07:45] <bugweiser> Xales
#657 [07:45] <xales> What problem?
#658 [07:45] <lukegb> Musashi_Miyamoto: well... what's your problem?
#659 [07:45] <xales> bugweiser: Yes?
#660 [07:45] <bugweiser> can you help me
#661 [07:45] <bugweiser> ??
#662 [07:45] <xales> Did you do what GreyVulpine said?
#663 [07:45] <bugweiser> my m8 try to join my server but it says bad login
#664 [07:46] <lukegb> bugweiser: is he using a cracked version of Minecraft?
#665 [07:46] <bugweiser> he dont got premium
#666 [07:46] <bugweiser> and i got
#667 [07:46] <lukegb> xales: ^
#668 [07:46] <bugweiser> yeah he got cracked
#669 [07:46] <xales> then he can't play with you, bugweiser
#670 [07:46] <xales> he has to buy it to play it
#671 [07:46] <Musashi_Miyamoto> Well, I want to join a server on an outdated version of Minecraft
#672 [07:46] <xales> Musashi_Miyamoto: We can't help with that, only the latest version
#673 [07:46] <bugweiser> How can i make a server whit hmachi so he cna join
#674 [07:46] <lukegb> Musashi_Miyamoto: the server's on an outdated version, or you are?
#675 [07:46] <Musashi_Miyamoto> ther server is
#676 [07:46] <lukegb> bugweiser: we won't help you with cracked versions.
#677 [07:46] <lukegb> Musashi_Miyamoto: then ask them for help.
#678 [07:47] <Musashi_Miyamoto> So I downloaded a tool that they use and it works for them
#679 [07:47] <Musashi_Miyamoto> but not for me
#680 [07:47] <xales> We can't help you with that
#681 [07:47] <Musashi_Miyamoto> It's not a cracked Minecraft, I'd buy it
#682 [07:47] <lukegb> ugh, FreeBSD is installing Ruby so I can install the Python binding for Xapian >_>
#683 [07:48] <xales> Musashi_Miyamoto: Still, we can't help with something that's not official that we have no idea what it even is
#684 [07:48] <Musashi_Miyamoto> Ok, I understand
#685 [07:48] <Musashi_Miyamoto> thank you
#686 [07:49] <Musashi_Miyamoto> so, I can tell you goodbye
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#690 [07:59] <Aska990> have Notch said when the 1.4 Beta will be released ?
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#692 [08:01] <xales> No
#693 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> Next week
#694 [08:01] <xales> Sometime next week, possibly.
#695 [08:02] <Iguana> Shadow386: drop the Teamspeak details on me whenever
#696 [08:02] <Shadow386> Iguana: ip of it is ts.shadow-craft.net
#697 [08:03] <Iguana> and then i realize nobody is online
#698 [08:03] <Shadow386> yeahh... we arent TOO popular :P
#699 [08:09] <Aska990> sigh...i can't play on this server...like on any other server
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#702 [08:19] <shadow10160> hello I am haveing a problem with wom
#703 [08:19] <shadow10160> anyone care to help?
#704 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> world of minecraft? or Weekend of minecraft?
#705 [08:20] <shadow10160> world of minecraft
#706 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we don't really provide support for third-party clien...
#707 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> bah
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#709 [08:21] <shadow10160> sorry im back though so can you help?
#710 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we don't really provide support for third-party clients here
#711 [08:21] <shadow10160> so if you dont y r u on wom
#712 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> We're not on WoM
#713 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> This is an IRC network.
#714 [08:22] <xales> This is IRC, it is not related to WoM in any way other than the fact that WoM also uses it
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#716 [08:31] <Rubac_Taldin> Hey guys I try to update th client by downloading the new exe but it stays the exact sam and every time I try join a server it says outdated client
#717 [08:31] <Rubac_Taldin> Any suggestions?
#718 [08:32] <xales> What version does it say in the top left hand corner?
#719 [08:32] <Rubac_Taldin> one sec
#720 [08:32] <Rubac_Taldin> Bet 1.2_02
#721 [08:32] <Rubac_Taldin> beta*
#722 [08:32] <xales> What's your username?
#723 [08:33] <xales> (for logging into Minecraft)
#724 [08:33] <Rubac_Taldin> Red0rDead
#725 [08:33] <Rubac_Taldin> sorry for my irc name I'm on another irc.
#726 [08:33] <xales> ??> Rubac_Taldin win/reinst
#727 [08:33] <VoxelHead> Rubac_Taldin: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#728 [08:33] <VoxelHead> Rubac_Taldin: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#729 [08:33] <xales> that's fine.
#730 [08:34] <Rubac_Taldin> It didnt work :(
#731 [08:35] <Rubac_Taldin> I tried to run and its the same.
#732 [08:35] <xales> ok, do this
#733 [08:35] <xales> go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc
#734 [08:35] <xales> in that folder is a file called 'hosts'
#735 [08:35] <xales> open it, copy everything in it, and paste it on http://pastebin.com/
#736 [08:35] <xales> (open it with Notepad)
#737 [08:36] <Rubac_Taldin> I dont see the hosts
#738 [08:36] <xales> Are you in the 'etc' folder?
#739 [08:37] <Rubac_Taldin> found it
#740 [08:37] <Rubac_Taldin> okay I got it now what do i do on paste bin?
#741 [08:38] <xales> Go to the website, paste everything in the hosts file into pastebin, click submit
#742 [08:38] <xales> it will send you to a URL, paste the URL here
#743 [08:38] <Rubac_Taldin> http://pastebin.com/s8tbeuba
#744 [08:38] <xales> And that is the entire thing?
#745 [08:38] <Rubac_Taldin> yeah
#746 [08:39] <xales> And you say you have tried deleting the 'bin' folder?
#747 [08:39] <Rubac_Taldin> Yeah
#748 [08:39] <xales> When did you last try?
#749 [08:39] <Rubac_Taldin> Just then
#750 [08:39] <xales> Did it redownload files?
#751 [08:39] <Rubac_Taldin> Is there a way to completely uninstall then reinstall?
#752 [08:40] <Rubac_Taldin> no theres no more bin there.
#753 [08:40] <Rubac_Taldin> its not coming back.
#754 [08:40] <xales> Where did you download the exe from?
#755 [08:40] <Rubac_Taldin> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#756 [08:40] <Rubac_Taldin> that one doesnt change when I use it to replace the normal launcher.
#757 [08:41] <xales> What do you mean "doesn't change"?
#758 [08:41] <Rubac_Taldin> It stays as the old launcher instead of this one http://mirror.forairan.com/new-minecraft-launcher.png
#759 [08:42] <xales> Are you double-clicking on the exe that you downloaded from minecraft.net?
#760 [08:42] <Rubac_Taldin> yeah
#761 [08:42] <xales> But it's the old launcher?
#762 [08:43] <xales> Are you sure you are opening the correct file?
#763 [08:43] <Rubac_Taldin> yes
#764 [08:43] <Rubac_Taldin> I saved it in documents just then instead of desktop and it doesnt know what file type it is
#765 [08:43] <xales> Then you downloaded the wrong file
#766 [08:43] <xales> Use this link
#767 [08:43] <xales> !server
#768 [08:44] <lukegb> ...
#769 [08:44] <lukegb> xales: wrong :P
#770 [08:44] <lukegb> Unless you want him to download the server, that is
#771 [08:44] <Rubac_Taldin> I want the actual game and I'm downloading the exe
#772 [08:44] <xales> err
#773 [08:44] <xales> right, sorry
#774 [08:44] <xales> !client
#775 [08:45] <xales> Rubac_Taldin: that link
#776 [08:45] <xales> the Minecraft.exe
#777 [08:45] <lukegb> Get him to try the jar next :P
#778 [08:45] * lukegb runs
#778 [08:45] * xales slaps lukegb around a bit with a small Imperial-Class Stardestroyer
#778 [08:46] <Rubac_Taldin> Yay it finally works
#779 [08:46] <lukegb> ...
#780 [08:46] <lukegb> Lolwhut
#781 [08:46] <xales> :3
#782 [08:46] <Rubac_Taldin> I was using the download from the site though?
#783 [08:46] <Rubac_Taldin> thats odd?
#784 [08:46] <xales> I have no idea
#785 [08:46] <lukegb> Nomnomnom
#786 [08:46] <Rubac_Taldin> Anyway thanks.
#787 [08:48] <ronjn> is ist normal that there's no hostile mob spawn when i'm alone on our smp server?
#788 [08:48] <xales> No
#789 [08:48] <xales> Are you using any mods on the server?
#790 [08:48] <ronjn> nope
#791 [08:48] <ronjn> as soon as another one joins the server they spawn again
#792 [08:49] <ronjn> but when i'm alone there is only mob spawn in the dungeons
#793 [08:49] <xales> And it is the official server, version 1.3?
#794 [08:49] <ronjn> yes
#795 [08:49] <ronjn> no server or client mods
#796 [08:49] <xales> I have no idea then
#797 [08:50] <ronjn> :/
#798 [08:50] <xales> you might ask GreyVulpine
#799 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> mobs don't spawn near you, they need to be within a loaded chunk, while 26.. 27 blocks in an unlighted block
#800 [08:50] <xales> if he is still around
#801 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> Or rather, a block that has a light level under, uh..
#802 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> what was it.. 5?7?
#803 [08:51] <xales> 7?
#804 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I think it's 7
#805 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> They need to be about 27 blocks away from you to spawn.
#806 [08:51] <ronjn> got enough of those places
#807 [08:51] <ronjn> i can sleep outside at night without a mob attacking me
#808 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> Then they should spawn.
#809 [08:51] <ronjn> in total dark
#810 [08:51] <ronjn> the dont
#811 [08:52] <ronjn> as i said
#812 [08:52] <GreyVulpine> Strange..
#813 [08:52] <ronjn> when another player joins they keep spawning
#814 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> I don't know then... Every vanilla server I've been on, does spawn monsters, even if I'm the only one on
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#820 [09:10] <Profprofprof> Hi, I have a problem with the gift code: A friend of my bought me a code, but if I want to redeem it it just tells me: The gift code is incorrect, or has already been used. Is there a special format I have to write? (I done it with x1x1-x1x1-x1x1)
#821 [09:10] <xales> Did they buy it from minecraft.net?
#822 [09:10] <Profprofprof> em, yes I think so
#823 [09:10] <xales> Can you double check?
#824 [09:11] <Profprofprof> he bought like 4 codes, and some other friend can play with one code bought this way
#825 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Have him look at his profile on minecraft.net
#826 [09:12] <xales> Double check you are entering the code properly, and that it hasn't been used
#827 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Make sure that code isn't redeemed already
#828 [09:16] <Profprofprof> k, I will write him to double check again
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#855 [11:32] <Joneesy> where do i download the full game once bought a premium account? i cant find it
#856 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> !client
#857 [11:34] <Joneesy> when i go to play on the downloaded version, it says 'failed to launch'?
#858 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Failed to launch?
#859 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> Is that the complete error?
#860 [11:35] <Joneesy> i'll get a picture
#861 [11:37] <Joneesy> http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9306/minecrafto.jpg
#862 [11:38] <xales> ??> Joneesy win/reinst
#863 [11:38] <VoxelHead> Joneesy: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#864 [11:38] <VoxelHead> Joneesy: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#866 [11:44] <Joneesy> still doesn't work :(
#867 [11:45] <LoRDTrevor> Perhaps i can be of assistance?
#868 [11:45] * xales pokes GreyVulpine
#868 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#869 [11:45] <xales> GreyVulpine: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9306/minecrafto.jpg
#870 [11:46] <LoRDTrevor> interesting error
#871 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#872 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall and reinstall java
#873 [11:46] <Joneesy> kk
#874 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, it's an outdated java version... but to make sure, just uninstall and reinstall
#875 [11:47] <LoRDTrevor> wait version isnt even a directory
#876 [11:47] <xales> it's a folder
#877 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> No, it's just a file
#878 [11:47] <xales> err
#879 [11:47] <xales> file
#880 [11:47] <xales> :|
#881 [11:48] <LoRDTrevor> 0_o nice error you got there
#882 [11:51] <Morrolan> Could it be caused by the space between Daniel and Jones?
#883 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nope
#884 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Usually, that error is just an outdated java version
#885 [11:51] <Morrolan> Ok. :)
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#887 [11:55] <ArmEagle> hmm, I saw this program that has a server list selection option for minecraft. Is there a commandline option to specify the server to connect to now?
#888 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so..
#889 [11:55] <xales> There is, with the new launcher
#890 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> There's a command line option to log in...
#891 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Is there one to connect?
#892 [11:55] <xales> It's part of the one to log in
#893 [11:55] <ArmEagle> My googlefoo must be failing :)
#894 [11:55] <xales> or, in addition to it
#895 [11:56] <Joneesy> still doesn't work with the new Java :(
#896 [11:56] <ArmEagle> xales any chance there's a nice wikipage I failed to find about it?
#897 [11:56] <Joneesy> when you download the file from the internet, do you have to put somewhere, cos i'm just going to my 'downloads' file and running it?
#898 [11:57] <xales> Joneesy: What file?
#899 [11:57] <Joneesy> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#900 [11:57] <Joneesy> the 'Minecraft.exe' one once i've downloaded it
#901 [11:58] <xales> Put it on your desktop
#902 [11:58] <Joneesy> i still have to run it once i've clicked? is that okay?
#903 [11:59] <xales> yes
#904 [11:59] <Joneesy> still doesn't work
#905 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Same error?
#906 [12:00] <Joneesy> yes
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#908 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#909 [12:00] <Joneesy> YES!
#910 [12:00] <Joneesy> done it
#911 [12:01] <Joneesy> it turns out i didnt do the delete bin from .minecraft folder right :$
#912 [12:02] <Joneesy> while i'm here and you seen like friendly helping people (;)), is there any downloads ('Mods and Texture Packs') you recommend me to download
#913 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> There's tons and tons of mods and texture packs.
#914 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> It's all up to personal preference
#915 [12:03] <Joneesy> where can i download them?
#916 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> If you wanted to look at texture packs, here's a good place to start
#917 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=12352
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#920 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> if you wanted a list of actual single player mods..
#921 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1039&t=93171
#922 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> That's a good thread to read
#923 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> As you can see.. there's probably a good hundred or two there.
#924 [12:05] <Joneeesy> yeah, nice to see many people help out with Minecraft. I shall give it a look
#925 [12:06] <LoRDTrevor> i want to see how many ssp i can get running at once
#926 [12:06] <LoRDTrevor> mods
#927 [12:06] <LoRDTrevor> ssp mods
#928 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez
#929 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> G'luck with that.. there's a reason why we don't officially give out support for mods here.
#930 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Way too many combinations of mods to deal with.
#931 [12:07] <LoRDTrevor> lol. hmm ill do patchers last
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#933 [12:09] <LoRDTrevor> actually im gonna have to spend the next few hours settinf
#934 [12:09] <LoRDTrevor> seeting up a ssh command prompt on my server. urgh
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#940 [12:45] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
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#944 [12:49] <sandmanshadow> hello i have a question
#945 [12:49] <DreadLindwyrm> I have an answer. It may not be the answer to your question though.
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#947 [12:50] <sandmanshadow> my minecraft wont work it used to but now it gets to the updating almost shows the bar complete and stops and freezes how may i fix this?
#948 [12:52] <sandmanshadow> can anyone help me?
#949 [12:59] <DreadLindwyrm> I've never seen that myself. I assume you've done the usual things like checking your java is up to date and so on?
#950 [12:59] <VoxelHead> Orange.
#951 [13:00] <DarkSkyes> that happened to me all i did though was force update and it fixed tis self for me
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#953 [13:02] <sandmanshadow> i updated jave
#954 [13:02] <sandmanshadow> java
#955 [13:02] <sandmanshadow> java 6 update 24
#956 [13:02] <sandmanshadow> same thing
#957 [13:02] <sandmanshadow> i even gave it an hour alone and wouldnt fix itsself
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#959 [13:03] <DarkSkyes> did u try forcing update?
#960 [13:03] <DarkSkyes> in minecraft
#961 [13:03] <LG_Legacy> Again, with the 'u'
#962 [13:03] <DarkSkyes> to re dl the bin files
#963 [13:03] <DarkSkyes> oh sorry You*
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#965 [13:09] <sandmanshadow> ill try
#966 [13:10] <sandmanshadow> it works thanks very much dark skyes
#967 [13:11] <DarkSkyes> np
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#971 [13:20] <kamil986> Hi
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#973 [13:27] <VoxelHead> mmm kamil986
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#977 [13:44] <oldtopmanserver> !ping
#978 [13:44] <GreyBot> oldtopmanserver Your Ping time was 0.515 seconds.
#979 [13:45] <Zoroark> heheh
#980 [13:45] <Zoroark> !ping
#981 [13:45] * VoxelHead is away: programming
#981 [13:46] <Zoroark> ใƒฝ( ๏ฝก ใƒฎ๏พŸ)ใƒŽ
#982 [13:46] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Zoroark: Very fast ping XD
#983 [13:47] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Wait for it...
#984 [13:47] <Tanjoodo_iPod> ... Wait for it...
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#986 [13:48] <Zoroark> ใƒฝ( ๏พŸใƒฎใƒป)ใƒŽ
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#1024 [14:24] <dj_slice> hi
#1025 [14:24] <dj_slice> how can i connect to a server on the serverlist?
#1026 [14:25] <LG_Legacy> Use the ip
#1027 [14:25] <dj_slice> how can i get the ip?
#1028 [14:25] <dj_slice> i can see the servername but no ip =(
#1029 [14:25] <LG_Legacy> http://mcserverlist.net/ Ip's are here, this is ran by the forum staff.
#1030 [14:26] <LG_Legacy> Ip's are listed next to names
#1031 [14:26] <dj_slice> ahh okay thanks =)
#1032 [14:26] <dj_slice> i was at the serverlist on minecraft.net
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#1035 [14:28] <LG_Legacy> Thats uh..
#1036 [14:29] <LG_Legacy> Mother f he left
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#1054 [14:40] <lolol> Does any of you got contact to notch , i got some thing to tell him about minecraft refund
#1055 [14:40] <lolol> ?
#1056 [14:41] <lolol> Does any of you got contact to notch , i got some thing to tell him about minecraft refund
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#1058 [14:43] <lolol> Does any of you got contact to notch , i got some thing to tell him about minecraft refund
#1059 [14:43] <LG_Legacy> Don't spam it.
#1060 [14:43] <lolol> sry
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#1062 [14:44] <aetherian> ahh, nothing like sleeping in.
#1063 [14:44] <lolol> but i got someting to ask him for
#1064 [14:44] <LG_Legacy> Notch is usually never here.
#1065 [14:44] <LG_Legacy> Just twitter him
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#1068 [14:47] <TheNytangel> how long does a bucket of lava last in a furnace?
#1069 [14:47] <LG_Legacy> Uh
#1070 [14:47] <LG_Legacy> Didn't it last like 64 tries or 100 tries?
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#1073 [14:50] <aetherian> 100 I think
#1074 [14:50] <aetherian> if I do so remember correctly
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#1076 [14:51] <Zoroark> 100, which is strange
#1077 [14:51] <aetherian> why is it strange
#1078 [14:51] <Zoroark> it should be something like 128
#1079 [14:51] <aetherian> greedy greedy!
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#1081 [14:51] <Zemedelphos> What's strange about the number 100?
#1082 [14:52] <Zoroark> It doesn't have a single one in binary form
#1083 [14:52] <aetherian> is has at least one one
#1084 [14:52] <Zoroark> yeah but it has more than one
#1085 [14:52] <aetherian> ...so?
#1086 [14:53] <Zemedelphos> So it has multiple ones in binary form, which is just multiple single ones.
#1087 [14:53] <aetherian> ...so?
#1088 [14:54] <Zemedelphos> So it's much better than those numbers with only a single single one.
#1089 [14:54] <Zemedelphos> Obviously.
#1090 [14:54] <aetherian> ...
#1091 [14:54] <aetherian> you think most people that play minecraft know binary?
#1092 [14:54] <Zemedelphos> When did I say that?
#1093 [14:54] * aetherian facepalms
#1093 [14:55] <aetherian> Zemedelphos: you're missing the point
#1094 [14:55] <Zemedelphos> What I'm really missing is the context.
#1095 [14:56] <aetherian> ...
#1096 [14:56] <aetherian> you know what? screw this. I'm going back to my game.
#1097 [14:56] <Zemedelphos> You seem a bit stressed. Maybe you should do something relaxing in stead.
#1098 [14:57] <Zemedelphos> Speaking of which, bbl.
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#1101 [14:59] <LCMinecraft> can I ask a support question here?
#1102 [14:59] <raskull> sure
#1103 [14:59] <LCMinecraft> ok, thx
#1104 [14:59] <LCMinecraft> when I click the launcher nothing happens
#1105 [15:00] <LCMinecraft> multiple launchers, reinstalls, restarts, etc. I have hundreds of hours on SMP
#1106 [15:00] <raskull> when you try to open the exe, or when you click something within the launcher?
#1107 [15:00] <LCMinecraft> I click the icon nothing happens
#1108 [15:00] <LCMinecraft> no process, no launcher popping up
#1109 [15:01] <LCMinecraft> its as if I clicked on my desktop background
#1110 [15:01] <raskull> does the game work from inside the browser?
#1111 [15:01] <LCMinecraft> no
#1112 [15:01] <LCMinecraft> tnever tried it untill today
#1113 [15:01] <LCMinecraft> tand oddly it gives an error
#1114 [15:01] <LCMinecraft> let me try it real quick
#1115 [15:01] <raskull> sounds like you may have a java issue.. have you deleted and reinstalled java with the latest version?
#1116 [15:02] <LCMinecraft> YES
#1117 [15:02] <LCMinecraft> lol sorry
#1118 [15:02] <LCMinecraft> java says its up to date, I deleted it and forced it
#1119 [15:02] <LCMinecraft> same result
#1120 [15:02] <raskull> what's the error the browser gives you?
#1121 [15:03] <LG_Legacy> Sounds like a driver issue
#1122 [15:04] <LCMinecraft> browser crashed
#1123 [15:04] <LCMinecraft> I managed to copy the error codes tho
#1124 [15:04] <LCMinecraft> not sure if it can help
#1125 [15:05] <LCMinecraft> when I use the .exe it never makes an error log
#1126 [15:05] <LCMinecraft> so maybe Ill try and update my gfx
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#1128 [15:10] <Owner> hi
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#1130 [15:12] <LCMinecraft> hi
#1131 [15:12] <hypoallergenix> hi
#1132 [15:12] <hypoallergenix> i wanna play minecraft but i dont know what its alla bout
#1133 [15:12] <hypoallergenix> i just played the creative mode or something and smashed blocks
#1134 [15:12] <xales> !tutorial
#1135 [15:12] <xales> Watch that
#1136 [15:13] <LCMinecraft> I have played hundreds of hours, but my launcher wont launch
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#1138 [15:13] <LCMinecraft> <-- admin on a top 10 server
#1139 [15:13] <LCMinecraft> but I cant play right now
#1140 [15:13] <hypoallergenix> does minecrqaft cost
#1141 [15:13] <Zemedelphos> Creative is free
#1142 [15:14] <hypoallergenix> but i heard creative is boring
#1143 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> Depends on personal preference
#1144 [15:14] <Zoroark> It's only boring to certain people
#1145 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> Some people rather just build stuff.
#1146 [15:14] <LCMinecraft> its like $20 - best money you can spend
#1147 [15:14] <hypoallergenix> u cant play multiplayer in create
#1148 [15:14] <Zoroark> I find it much more fun than survival
#1149 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> Others rather explore and mine.
#1150 [15:14] <LCMinecraft> I play with up to 80 people, its so much fun
#1151 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> You can play multiplaye creative
#1152 [15:14] <Zoroark> You can play multiplayer in creative.
#1153 [15:14] <hypoallergenix> oh uu can
#1154 [15:14] <hypoallergenix> well i rly dont know what to do
#1155 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> But without purchasing, you can't play survival multiplayer
#1156 [15:14] <hypoallergenix> i just smash blocks
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#1158 [15:14] <Zoroark> You need to register/login
#1159 [15:14] <Zemedelphos> But the game's only 20$ right now.
#1160 [15:14] * VoxelHead kicked Oerg866 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: pre-existing ban)
#1161 [15:14] <hypoallergenix> and fall down
#1162 [15:14] <hypoallergenix> lol
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#1164 [15:15] <hypoallergenix> but i cant purchase it online
#1165 [15:15] <Zemedelphos> But you can.
#1166 [15:15] <hypoallergenix> will it come to stores upo its release
#1167 [15:15] <Zemedelphos> It might. Not sure.
#1168 [15:15] <LCMinecraft> prolly not
#1169 [15:15] <Zemedelphos> Probably not.
#1170 [15:15] <hypoallergenix> will there be any payment besides creditcard/pyapal
#1171 [15:15] <hypoallergenix> like one of those prepaid ultimate gamers cards
#1172 [15:16] <LCMinecraft> eventually it will be on steam, etc I think
#1173 [15:16] <raskull> just pay a friend to buy it for you
#1174 [15:16] <Zemedelphos> Credit card and paypal are the easiest methods, but it's possible they might sell MC game cards.
#1175 [15:16] <Zemedelphos> Or that
#1176 [15:16] <Zemedelphos> Anyway, why can't you just use paypall?
#1177 [15:16] <Zemedelphos> pal*
#1178 [15:16] <hypoallergenix> im only 13
#1179 [15:16] <hypoallergenix> nor legally allowed to have a paypal
#1180 [15:16] <Zemedelphos> Lol
#1181 [15:16] <LCMinecraft> no parents, uncles, etc
#1182 [15:16] <LCMinecraft> ?
#1183 [15:16] <hypoallergenix> my dad uses it
#1184 [15:17] <Zemedelphos> Just say "Dad, here's 20$. Buy this for me."
#1185 [15:17] <LCMinecraft> go do some chores, get $20 give to dad, your done
#1186 [15:17] <Zemedelphos> And if he thinks it's a scam, point out a million people beg to differ.
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#1188 [15:17] <thoatt> Howdy
#1189 [15:17] <LCMinecraft> brb - gonna reinstall gfx
#1190 [15:17] <Zemedelphos> ANd he's racist for thinking it's a scam just because the creator's swedish.
#1191 [15:17] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1192 [15:18] <hypoallergenix> well i certainly do like u guys
#1193 [15:18] <hypoallergenix> must ahve a good community
#1194 [15:18] <LCMinecraft> it does
#1195 [15:18] <hypoallergenix> and i have a smashing time smashing blocks
#1196 [15:18] <hypoallergenix> ;D
#1197 [15:18] <Zemedelphos> It's like anycommunity
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#1199 [15:18] <Zemedelphos> The good, the bad, the and the stupid.
#1200 [15:18] <raskull> and the awesome
#1201 [15:18] <Zemedelphos> whoops, unneccessary "the"
#1202 [15:18] <LCMinecraft> yup I ban lots of jerks
#1203 [15:18] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1204 [15:18] <hypoallergenix> nice work lc
#1205 [15:18] <LCMinecraft> but most are nice
#1206 [15:19] <Zemedelphos> The awesome. You mean Notch, Mollstam, Jeb, and Deadmau5, right?
#1207 [15:19] <hypoallergenix> i wish i could do chores for the owner
#1208 [15:19] <hypoallergenix> for minecraft
#1209 [15:19] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1210 [15:19] <Zemedelphos> lol
#1211 [15:19] <hypoallergenix> maybe hed give me 20$
#1212 [15:19] <Zemedelphos> hypoallergenix, notch's official beard trimmer.
#1213 [15:19] <LCMinecraft> hes rich now so yeah
#1214 [15:19] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1215 [15:19] <hypoallergenix> hes rich from MC?
#1216 [15:19] <LCMinecraft> making 250k a day now?
#1217 [15:19] <LCMinecraft> oh yes
#1218 [15:19] <hypoallergenix> wow
#1219 [15:19] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1220 [15:19] <Zemedelphos> Too bad taxes suck ther,e eh?
#1221 [15:19] <Zemedelphos> there*
#1222 [15:20] <hypoallergenix> does he ever come in here
#1223 [15:20] <hypoallergenix> ?
#1224 [15:20] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1225 [15:20] <LCMinecraft> what is it one million times $15/$20?
#1226 [15:20] <Zemedelphos> Sometimes he's in #minecraft
#1227 [15:20] <hypoallergenix> whats his name in there
#1228 [15:20] <Zemedelphos> Notch
#1229 [15:20] <hypoallergenix> oh
#1230 [15:20] <Zemedelphos> I see Ez more than him there, though.
#1231 [15:20] <thoatt> LCMinecraft: You can't do that complicated math? lol
#1232 [15:20] <Zemedelphos> LCMinecraft, it's 15m/25m
#1233 [15:21] <hypoallergenix> ya
#1234 [15:21] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1235 [15:21] <hypoallergenix> i was just laughing because it was easy math
#1236 [15:21] <hypoallergenix> xD
#1237 [15:21] <thoatt> Zemedelphos: 15/20 >.>
#1238 [15:21] <Zemedelphos> I'm sure LCM was jokingarond
#1239 [15:21] <Zemedelphos> thoatt, yeah I know
#1240 [15:21] <thoatt> not 25. lol
#1241 [15:21] <Zemedelphos> Typo
#1242 [15:21] <Zemedelphos> You'll quickly discover I make a lot of those.
#1243 [15:21] <hypoallergenix> maybe if i ask notch if i can do some virtual chores hell give me a game copy?
#1244 [15:21] <thoatt> lol
#1245 [15:21] <Zemedelphos> Especially right after I wake up
#1246 [15:21] <Zemedelphos> Hypo: He has staff for that.
#1247 [15:21] <thoatt> xD
#1248 [15:21] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1249 [15:22] <hypoallergenix> omg
#1250 [15:22] <hypoallergenix> one of u should buy me a giftcode!
#1251 [15:22] <Zemedelphos> I'll buy you a gift code for 30 bucks.
#1252 [15:22] <hypoallergenix> then we can all play togetherz
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#1254 [15:22] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1255 [15:22] <Zemedelphos> Gotta make a profit.
#1256 [15:23] <hypoallergenix> wow
#1257 [15:23] <Zemedelphos> Economy's tough, value of the dollar's constantly dropping, no one's hiring me, my current job's only 10 hours a week.
#1258 [15:23] <Zemedelphos> And I NEED Dissidia Duodecim.
#1259 [15:23] <hypoallergenix> type in minecraft giftcode and dont hit enter but look at the top serach results
#1260 [15:23] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1261 [15:24] <Zemedelphos> okay?
#1262 [15:24] <Zemedelphos> minecraft.net/buy_gift_codes.jsp
#1263 [15:24] <Zemedelphos> what about it
#1264 [15:24] <raskull> seems legit
#1265 [15:24] <hypoallergenix> in google the top search ones
#1266 [15:24] <Zemedelphos> Or did you mean the predictive results?
#1267 [15:24] <hypoallergenix> in the little drop box
#1268 [15:24] <hypoallergenix> say generator etc
#1269 [15:24] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1270 [15:24] <Zemedelphos> Yeah, stupid people thinks there's a keygen for everything
#1271 [15:25] <hypoallergenix> yup
#1272 [15:25] <thoatt> You can only buy 10 giftcodes at a time? I am disappoint.
#1273 [15:25] <Zemedelphos> I learned the hard way with that mashed potato keygen back in '04
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#1275 [15:25] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1276 [15:25] <LCMinecraft> well I reinstalled my gfx and the launcher still doesnt launch
#1277 [15:25] <hypoallergenix> why wat happebned?
#1278 [15:25] <hypoallergenix> zemes
#1279 [15:26] <Zemedelphos> To whom it may concern: My defining features are sarcasm, accidental typos, redundancy, and sarcasm.
#1280 [15:26] <hypoallergenix> zemed
#1281 [15:26] <hypoallergenix> whats the whole mashed potato thing
#1282 [15:26] <Zemedelphos> One should infer that was sarcasm.
#1283 [15:26] <xales> LCMinecraft: What happens? What error do you get?
#1284 [15:27] <hypoallergenix> brb
#1285 [15:27] <thoatt> fail
#1286 [15:27] <thoatt> disregard me
#1287 [15:28] <Zemedelphos> lol
#1288 [15:28] <thoatt> I wonder....
#1289 [15:28] <Zemedelphos> Disregard thoatt, aquire currency
#1290 [15:28] <thoatt> !op thoatt
#1291 [15:28] <Zemedelphos> Fail.
#1292 [15:28] <thoatt> fail.. forgot aubot's commenads
#1293 [15:28] <thoatt> commands*
#1294 [15:28] <thoatt> !help
#1295 [15:28] <Zemedelphos> I love aubot.
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#1297 [15:29] <TheNytangel> !check 64.34.163.12:25765
#1298 [15:29] <thoatt> nevermind lol.. kealper started with a new config lol
#1299 [15:30] <thoatt> i lol a lot lol
#1300 [15:30] <raskull> thoatt: that reminds me of the grand galactic inquisitor.. IGNORE ME!
#1301 [15:30] <Fleskhjerta> ?Builders
#1302 [15:30] <Fleskhjerta> crap
#1303 [15:30] <Fleskhjerta> I need help about lag
#1304 [15:30] * thoatt turns into a sofa
#1304 [15:30] <Fleskhjerta> lol
#1305 [15:30] * Fleskhjerta farts
#1305 [15:30] <Fleskhjerta> HAHAHA
#1306 [15:30] * Zemedelphos turns thoatt's f into a d
#1306 [15:30] <Zemedelphos> Anyone thirsty?
#1307 [15:30] <Fleskhjerta> ME
#1308 [15:30] <Zemedelphos> Have an ice-cold Thoatt
#1309 [15:30] * thoatt fizzes
#1309 [15:31] * Fleskhjerta drinks thoat even though he is a sofa
#1309 [15:31] <thoatt> Mr. Pibb is a poor imitation of Dr. Pepper. Did didn't even get his degree.
#1310 [15:31] <Fleskhjerta> So can anyone here help me with a Lag Problem
#1311 [15:31] <thoatt> dude*
#1312 [15:32] <Fleskhjerta> Yea but Mr. Pibb is AWESOME
#1313 [15:32] <thoatt> -Michael Scott
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#1315 [15:32] <hypoallergenix> guys
#1316 [15:32] <Zemedelphos> Soda is Soda. Just the f*ding* up and drink the imitation. -Zemedelphos
#1317 [15:32] <Fleskhjerta> I know we need more mods for drinks like a Pepsi Coke Dr Peppe
#1318 [15:32] <hypoallergenix> on rewards1.com they have minecraft code for 21 points
#1319 [15:32] <Fleskhjerta> Pepper*
#1320 [15:32] <hypoallergenix> i just g2 do some surveys
#1321 [15:32] <xales> hypoallergenix: Any code not from minecraft.net will NOT work
#1322 [15:32] <xales> it is NOT possible to get them for free
#1323 [15:32] <hypoallergenix> and if u guys sign up under my referall ill be able to get it in no time
#1324 [15:33] <hypoallergenix> is isnt free
#1325 [15:33] <thoatt> Spammer is spammewr
#1326 [15:33] <thoatt> spammer*
#1327 [15:33] <hypoallergenix> they obviously purchase them and make u do ads so that they get more money
#1328 [15:33] <xales> No, they really don't
#1329 [15:33] <xales> Again, any code obtained from a site other than Minecraft.net WILL NOT WORK
#1330 [15:33] <thoatt> not for 21 points lol
#1331 [15:33] <Zemedelphos> hypo, just have your dad buy it.
#1332 [15:33] <Zemedelphos> Give him money or do chores.
#1333 [15:34] <Fleskhjerta> Well can anyone get on topic cus i need help with reducing lag on my game cus all videos i see NO LAG i tried the priporty but i can do affinity
#1334 [15:34] <thoatt> Hey guys... just type in /quit and it'll give you a free minecraft giftcode!
#1335 [15:34] * xales kicked thoatt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: thoatt)
#1336 [15:34] <Fleskhjerta> lol
#1337 [15:34] <Fleskhjerta> Xales i need help
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#1340 [15:34] <xales> Fleskhjerta: What are the specs of your computer?
#1341 [15:34] <Fleskhjerta> specs?
#1342 [15:34] <xales> yes
#1343 [15:34] <Fleskhjerta> idk what it is
#1344 [15:35] <xales> ??> Fleskhjerta win/dxdiag
#1345 [15:35] <VoxelHead> Fleskhjerta: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1346 [15:35] <VoxelHead> Fleskhjerta: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1347 [15:35] <Fleskhjerta> Win 7
#1348 [15:35] <Fleskhjerta> ....
#1349 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> Do what vox says.
#1350 [15:35] <thoatt> That will work on windows 7.
#1351 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> "Specs" are specifications.
#1352 [15:35] <Fleskhjerta> Win Xp 7
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#1354 [15:35] <Zemedelphos> We aren't asking for your OS
#1355 [15:35] <xales> Fleskhjerta: Follow the instructions that VoxelHead gave you
#1356 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> Do what Voxelhead said
#1357 [15:36] <Fleskhjerta> ...
#1358 [15:36] <Zemedelphos> Did you do it?
#1359 [15:37] <Fleskhjerta> Now im completley confused at the tool part
#1360 [15:37] <Zemedelphos> What tool part?
#1361 [15:38] <Fleskhjerta> uh when you start it do i have to do anything
#1362 [15:38] <xales> Just read and follow the instructions
#1363 [15:38] <xales> ?? win/reinst
#1364 [15:38] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1365 [15:38] <Fleskhjerta> ...
#1366 [15:38] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1367 [15:38] <xales> err
#1368 [15:38] <xales> wrong one
#1369 [15:38] <xales> ?? win/dxdiag
#1370 [15:38] <Fleskhjerta> uh
#1371 [15:39] <xales> ?? win/dxdiag
#1372 [15:39] <Fleskhjerta> i need pro help
#1373 [15:39] <thoatt> ??> win/dxdiag
#1374 [15:39] <Fleskhjerta> i dont get
#1375 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> One sec
#1376 [15:39] <xales> Fleskhjerta: what part do you not get?
#1377 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1378 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1379 [15:39] <Fleskhjerta> can anyone teamveiw with me
#1380 [15:39] <Fleskhjerta> im only 13
#1381 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> It's all there in black and white.
#1382 [15:39] <thoatt> I can.
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#1384 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> Your age has no bearing on this.
#1385 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> Read it one sentece at a time.
#1386 [15:39] <Zemedelphos> Do it one sentence at a time.
#1387 [15:40] <Zemedelphos> Okay?
#1388 [15:40] <thoatt> Do you know how to send private messages Fleskhjerta ?
#1389 [15:40] <Fleskhjerta> no
#1390 [15:40] <hypoallergenix> lol
#1391 [15:40] <hypoallergenix> zemed
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#1393 [15:41] <Zemedelphos> Flesk: are you even trying?
#1394 [15:41] <Warfar> hey
#1395 [15:41] <thoatt> /msg thoatt [id/pass]
#1396 [15:41] <hypoallergenix> zemed lol ur making me shift my pants
#1397 [15:41] <Zemedelphos> How's that?
#1398 [15:41] <hypoallergenix> your just so straight forward
#1399 [15:41] <hypoallergenix> it makes me laugh
#1400 [15:41] <Zemedelphos> I'm just trying to teach him to do this next time he needs it.
#1401 [15:41] <Zemedelphos> It's easy.
#1402 [15:41] <Warfar> please help
#1403 [15:41] <thoatt> It is for some.
#1404 [15:42] <xales> Warfar: With?
#1405 [15:42] <Warfar> when i start minecraft it freezes at the menu where you choose singleplayer or multiplayer
#1406 [15:42] <Zemedelphos> It's as easy as pressing 2 keys, typing something, pressing a button, opening a file, saving it to pastebin, and putting the link here.
#1407 [15:42] <xales> ??> Warfar win/reinst
#1408 [15:42] <VoxelHead> Warfar: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1409 [15:42] <VoxelHead> Warfar: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1410 [15:42] <Warfar> i did
#1411 [15:42] <xales> Did it ever work?
#1412 [15:42] <hypoallergenix> ill catch u guys later
#1413 [15:43] <hypoallergenix> BTW zemed makes me rofl
#1414 [15:43] <hypoallergenix> :D
#1415 [15:43] <Warfar> it works once then stops working
#1416 [15:43] <xales> ??> Warfar win/dxdiag
#1417 [15:43] <VoxelHead> Warfar: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1418 [15:43] <VoxelHead> Warfar: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1419 [15:44] <Warfar> it worked b4
#1420 [15:44] <Warfar> only today
#1421 [15:44] <Warfar> when i wanted fresh mc files
#1422 [15:45] <xales> Follow the instructions
#1423 [15:45] <Warfar> k
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#1425 [15:48] <warfar1> sorry
#1426 [15:48] <warfar1> mirc crashed
#1427 [15:48] <warfar1> http://pastebin.com/JsRstWds
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#1429 [15:48] <warfar1> you still here?
#1430 [15:48] <thoatt> Yeah
#1431 [15:49] <xales> That isn't the whole file
#1432 [15:49] <xales> We need the entire file
#1433 [15:49] <warfar1> i mean xales
#1434 [15:49] <warfar1> thats all i got
#1435 [15:49] <xales> no, it isn't
#1436 [15:49] <warfar1> im on xp
#1437 [15:49] <xales> look again
#1438 [15:49] <warfar1> i dont have save log
#1439 [15:49] <warfar1> only save all info
#1440 [15:49] <xales> They are the same thing
#1441 [15:50] <warfar1> oops
#1442 [15:50] <warfar1> sorry
#1443 [15:50] <xales> Look at the file again
#1444 [15:50] <xales> It is much longer than what you pasted
#1445 [15:50] <warfar1> http://pastebin.com/prJQd1bq
#1446 [15:51] <xales> Update your graphics card driver
#1447 [15:51] <LCMinecraft> hey xales, I dont get an error code/log. I click the launcher, but nothing happens
#1448 [15:52] <Warfar> i did
#1449 [15:52] <thoatt> http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_nvs_notebook_winxp_179.48_beta.html
#1450 [15:52] <Warfar> that doesnt work
#1451 [15:52] <LCMinecraft> I reinstalled java, gfx driver
#1452 [15:52] <xales> Warfar: You didn't, because the one you have installed is from 2008
#1453 [15:52] <Warfar> dude
#1454 [15:52] <xales> LCMinecraft: How much RAM does your computer have?
#1455 [15:52] <Warfar> i use the drivers form dell
#1456 [15:52] <Warfar> 2gb
#1457 [15:52] <LCMinecraft> deleted /bin, etc
#1458 [15:52] <thoatt> use
#1459 [15:52] <thoatt> http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_nvs_notebook_winxp_179.48_beta.html
#1460 [15:52] <LCMinecraft> 4 gigs
#1461 [15:52] <thoatt> those
#1462 [15:52] <Warfar> i already did
#1463 [15:52] <thoatt> You didn't.
#1464 [15:52] <LCMinecraft> also I have hundreds (thousands?) of hours SMP
#1465 [15:53] <thoatt> If you did, you wouldn't have that old of drivers.
#1466 [15:53] <LCMinecraft> been working fin since september untill today
#1467 [15:53] <Warfar> ok i could play mc yesterday
#1468 [15:53] <xales> LCMinecraft: Have you tried redownloading the launcher?
#1469 [15:53] <LCMinecraft> yes
#1470 [15:53] <Warfar> but not after i force updated
#1471 [15:53] <LCMinecraft> javaw process pops up ffor about 2 seconds
#1472 [15:54] <LCMinecraft> tthats all that happens
#1473 [15:54] <xales> LCMinecraft: Make a new user account on your computer (system user account), and try to play with that
#1474 [15:54] <thoatt> Warfar: We're not telling you to install drivers because you need new drivers, we are telling you to install new drivers because re-installing the xdrivers will probably fix the issue.
#1475 [15:54] <LCMinecraft> ok brb
#1476 [15:54] <thoatt> -x
#1477 [15:54] <Warfar> i tried installing new drivers
#1478 [15:54] <Warfar> they are not comapttable woith this pc
#1479 [15:55] <Warfar> only the drivers on dell work
#1480 [15:55] <thoatt> Did you get the correct ones? Because I'm 100% positive that http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_nvs_notebook_winxp_179.48_beta.htmlhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_nvs_notebook_winxp_179.48_beta.html will work for that pc.
#1481 [15:55] <thoatt> fail
#1482 [15:55] <Warfar> nope
#1483 [15:55] <thoatt> http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_nvs_notebook_winxp_179.48_beta.html
#1484 [15:55] <Warfar> look for dell d620 drivers
#1485 [15:55] <Warfar> on dell website
#1486 [15:55] <Warfar> i can ONLY use those
#1487 [15:56] <Warfar> i tried the ones on nvidia.com none work
#1488 [15:56] <xales> That's probably why it doesn't work
#1489 [15:57] <LCMinecraft> tried it xales, javaw gets up to about 40 megs then dies
#1490 [15:57] <LCMinecraft> runs for 2/3 seconds tops
#1491 [15:57] <Warfar> explain why it worked yesterday and this morning
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#1493 [15:57] <LCMinecraft> mine worked for months too war - it happens
#1494 [15:57] <xales> Warfar: You said you deleted stuff. It was probably an older version that is now up to date and has higher system specs.
#1495 [15:57] <thoatt> The drivers on the dell site are from 2009, not 2008
#1496 [15:57] <gamakichi> can sommone try to join my server to see if it works
#1497 [15:57] <gamakichi> ??
#1498 [15:58] <xales> gamakichi: use the bot.
#1499 [15:58] <xales> say "!check (IP)"
#1500 [15:58] <gamakichi> !check (IP)
#1501 [15:58] <thoatt> *facepalm* lol
#1502 [15:58] <thoatt> replace (IP) with YOUR ip
#1503 [15:58] <warfar1> *lol*
#1504 [15:59] <warfar1> xales i was using the 1.3_x and i deleted bin and got 1.3.x
#1505 [15:59] <LCMinecraft> so nobody has heard of the launcher not working at all?
#1506 [15:59] <warfar1> lc
#1507 [15:59] <xales> LCMinecraft: It sounds like a Java issue to me :|
#1508 [15:59] <LCMinecraft> Ive used it sooo many times
#1509 [15:59] <warfar1> did you install zombiecraft
#1510 [15:59] <thoatt> LCMinecraft: I concur
#1511 [15:59] <LCMinecraft> thats what i thought
#1512 [16:00] <warfar1> lc did you install zombiecraft and see that it did not work
#1513 [16:00] <gamakichi> how do i make my server so i got flatland
#1514 [16:00] <xales> however, another thing to try
#1515 [16:00] <xales> gamakichi: you would use a mod. we can't help with that
#1516 [16:00] <LCMinecraft> yes
#1517 [16:00] <thoatt> gamakichi: You need to use a map editor, or do it by hand.
#1518 [16:00] <thoatt> or a mod.
#1519 [16:00] <gamakichi> how do i find map editor
#1520 [16:00] <thoatt> check the minecraft forums
#1521 [16:00] <warfar1> hey
#1522 [16:00] <warfar1> wait
#1523 [16:00] <thoatt> (not sure if I'm allowed to linjk to that here)
#1524 [16:00] <warfar1> gama
#1525 [16:01] <thoatt> link*
#1526 [16:01] <warfar1> search "tyken's Test World"
#1527 [16:02] <Warfar> hey the browser one works...
#1528 [16:02] <Warfar> anyone have the old mc launcher?
#1529 [16:02] <xales> No
#1530 [16:02] <warfar1> aww
#1531 [16:02] <thoatt> xales: Am I allowed to post links to the mc forums in here?
#1532 [16:02] <xales> If you don't have it, you can't legally get it
#1533 [16:02] <Warfar> why
#1534 [16:02] <xales> thoatt: sure
#1535 [16:02] <thoatt> :)
#1536 [16:02] <xales> Warfar: Because it is no longer available, and it is not legal to distribute it
#1537 [16:02] <thoatt> gamakichi: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=128898
#1538 [16:02] <Warfar> its a launcher right?
#1539 [16:02] <xales> Launcher is part of game
#1540 [16:03] <Warfar> ok
#1541 [16:03] <xales> you may not redistribute any part of Minecraft
#1542 [16:03] <xales> says so quite plainly on the site
#1543 [16:03] <Warfar> then im illegal
#1544 [16:03] <Warfar> skins
#1545 [16:03] <Warfar> are part of minecraft
#1546 [16:03] <xales> No, they aren't
#1547 [16:03] <Warfar> and tetures
#1548 [16:03] <Warfar> textures
#1549 [16:03] <xales> Any content FOR minecraft is NOT Minecraft itself
#1550 [16:03] <xales> anyway
#1551 [16:03] <Warfar> ok then
#1552 [16:03] <xales> I am not going to dispute copyright law with you when you do not understand it
#1553 [16:04] <Warfar> the minecraft browser works
#1554 [16:04] <Warfar> its a launcherbug then
#1555 [16:04] <Warfar> any tips?
#1556 [16:04] <oldtopmanserver> Warfar: Did you redownload the client?
#1557 [16:04] <Warfar> yes
#1558 [16:05] <Warfar> should i try the jar?
#1559 [16:05] <xales> Warfar: if the browser works but the download doesn't then it is a DRIVER ISSUE
#1560 [16:05] <xales> as I have been saying.
#1561 [16:05] <oldtopmanserver> say Do you use win$?
#1562 [16:05] <LCMinecraft> my launcher just wont launch
#1563 [16:05] <xales> LCMinecraft: Try the browser version?
#1564 [16:05] <xales> http://minecraft.net/game/
#1565 [16:05] <LCMinecraft> yes, doesnt work
#1566 [16:05] <LCMinecraft> I got an error log from that tho
#1567 [16:05] <Warfar> force update
#1568 [16:05] <gamakichi> what happend if i dig in the tykens world is just dirt all the way or??
#1569 [16:06] <Warfar> yes gama
#1570 [16:06] <xales> LCMinecraft: can you pastebin the error?
#1571 [16:06] <LCMinecraft> sure
#1572 [16:06] <Warfar> LCMinecraft:force update
#1573 [16:06] <Warfar> s
#1574 [16:06] <thoatt> LCMinecraft: Not sure if asked (probably has) have you tried re-installing java?
#1575 [16:07] <LCMinecraft> http://pastebin.com/zMP6nvMR
#1576 [16:07] <LCMinecraft> java says its updated, a delete forces a new java download
#1577 [16:07] <LCMinecraft> doesnt work
#1578 [16:07] <xales> LCMinecraft: As strange as it sounds...is the time and date, especially year, on your computer, correct?
#1579 [16:08] <LCMinecraft> cant force update MC as I cant get to login
#1580 [16:08] <LCMinecraft> yes its correct
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#1582 [16:08] <LCMinecraft> I am remembering that firefox updated this morning
#1583 [16:09] <LCMinecraft> thats the only hing that changed
#1584 [16:09] <LCMinecraft> also - i did a restore to yesterday when the game worked
#1585 [16:09] <thoatt> wouldn't affect the launcher.
#1586 [16:09] <xales> LCMinecraft: It looks like your Java is broken
#1587 [16:09] <LCMinecraft> no, but neither the launcher or browser version works now
#1588 [16:09] <LCMinecraft> form the log xales?
#1589 [16:10] <LCMinecraft> from
#1590 [16:10] <xales> yes
#1591 [16:10] <Warfar> HEY GUYS
#1592 [16:10] <thoatt> yes Warfar ?
#1593 [16:10] <Warfar> i found the old launcher on the forums
#1594 [16:10] <Warfar> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=209640
#1595 [16:10] <LCMinecraft> ok, I wonder if there is a cleaner program for java
#1596 [16:10] <thoatt> lol.. even old links will download the new bins.
#1597 [16:10] <Warfar> it works
#1598 [16:10] <LCMinecraft> warf - thats stupid, they gonna steal your password
#1599 [16:10] <Warfar> cheers
#1600 [16:10] <Warfar> nope
#1601 [16:10] * xales kicked Warfar from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Happy breaking the terms of service)
#1602 [16:11] <LCMinecraft> haha idiot
#1603 [16:11] <LCMinecraft> well Ill poke around java some more xales, thx
#1604 [16:11] <xales> LCMinecraft: Completely uninstall it, then manually delete the Java files
#1605 [16:11] <thoatt> LCMinecraft: win? linux?
#1606 [16:11] <xales> then install it again
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#1608 [16:11] <LCMinecraft> win xp
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#1610 [16:11] <thoatt> ahh ok
#1611 [16:11] <LCMinecraft> sp3
#1612 [16:11] <mutedsk> Does anyone know whats going on with buying the game? I've tried both ways, paypal and just my card, and so did my friend and it doesnt work. E-Mailed them a day ago and no response >_>
#1613 [16:12] <xales> mutedsk: Are you trying to use a prepaid/gift card?
#1614 [16:12] <mutedsk> No, just a Debit card
#1615 [16:12] <thoatt> payment@mojang.com ?
#1616 [16:12] <mutedsk> yeah I emailed them with the transaction ID
#1617 [16:12] <xales> they probably won't respond on the weekend
#1618 [16:12] <xales> other then that...not much to do
#1619 [16:12] <mutedsk> ah okay
#1620 [16:12] <mutedsk> thank you
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#1622 [16:24] <thoatt> [A
#1623 [16:24] <thoatt> fail
#1624 [16:28] <thoatt> brb... gonna screen this.
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#1627 [16:32] <thoatt> Today is Saturday. Sunday comes after.
#1628 [16:32] <Thoatt> much better.
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#1631 [16:42] <mib_on8uma> hello
#1632 [16:42] <xales> hi
#1633 [16:42] <mib_on8uma> my friend try to join my server and he cant becus it says bad login
#1634 [16:42] <mib_on8uma> what should we do
#1635 [16:42] <xales> what is his username
#1636 [16:42] <Thoatt> Has he purchased the game?
#1637 [16:42] <mib_on8uma> yeah
#1638 [16:42] <mib_on8uma> Morinjr
#1639 [16:42] <mib_on8uma> thats hes name
#1640 [16:43] <xales> Is he using "Play offline" mode?
#1641 [16:43] <mib_on8uma> he did purshe it about 5 min ago
#1642 [16:43] <mib_on8uma> where do he check that
#1643 [16:43] <xales> Was he playing it without purchasing it before?
#1644 [16:43] <Thoatt> when he starts up the game.
#1645 [16:43] <mib_on8uma> yeah
#1646 [16:43] <mib_on8uma> no
#1647 [16:43] <mib_on8uma> i mean
#1648 [16:43] <mib_on8uma> no
#1649 [16:43] <mib_on8uma> he dident
#1650 [16:43] <mib_on8uma> he did buy it
#1651 [16:43] <mib_on8uma> then now he starded
#1652 [16:44] <xales> then he would be able to connect :)
#1653 [16:44] <Thoatt> Tell him to use the in-browser version and see if that works.
#1654 [16:44] <mib_on8uma> what happend if you playing the game whitout purchase it
#1655 [16:45] <Thoatt> You can't login to 'online' servers.
#1656 [16:45] <GenEtnad> hi, when i play on a minecraft multiplayer server i can't destroy blocks, like when i do it comes back a coupleseconds later
#1657 [16:45] <xales> GenEtnad: Move away from the spawn
#1658 [16:45] <Thoatt> GenEtnad: Does the server you play on have block protection?
#1659 [16:45] <GenEtnad> i have and no
#1660 [16:45] <mib_on8uma> Thoatt how do he fix that if he would have done it
#1661 [16:45] <mib_on8uma> ??
#1662 [16:45] <xales> mib_on8uma: I am not going to tell you, because you lied about it
#1663 [16:45] <Thoatt> mib_on8uma: If he would have done what?
#1664 [16:45] <GenEtnad> i can wait till you guys solve that guys problem since he was here first
#1665 [16:46] <mib_on8uma> nvm
#1666 [16:46] <mib_on8uma> my friend try to join my server and he cant becus it says bad login how should he do
#1667 [16:46] <xales> GenEtnad: does it do this on all servers, or just the one? It's probably something you should talk to the server admin about, because it's usually a setting on the server
#1668 [16:46] <mib_on8uma> Xales i did say idk know i havent ask him
#1669 [16:46] <GenEtnad> well i have 2 friends that have servers and it happens on both
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#1671 [16:46] <Thoatt> mib_on8uma: if he has purchased the game, tell him to use the in-browser version and see if it works.
#1672 [16:47] <Thoatt> GenEtnad: It's either some form of server block protection, or severe lag. I'd talk to the server admin and ask them if they have block protection on.
#1673 [16:48] <GenEtnad> if it isn't a default setting then no because he hasn't changed any of the settings on it
#1674 [16:49] <xales> GenEtnad: And you have moved far away from the spawn?
#1675 [16:49] <GenEtnad> yes
#1676 [16:49] <xales> Have your friend try opping you on the server
#1677 [16:49] <xales> then try
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#1679 [16:49] <GenEtnad> opping?
#1680 [16:49] <Thoatt> GenEtnad: making you a server op.
#1681 [16:49] <xales> yes
#1682 [16:50] <GenEtnad> oh ok
#1683 [16:50] <xales> they would type 'op (yourname)' in the server console
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#1685 [16:50] <xales> or use /op (yourname) in game
#1686 [16:50] <GenEtnad> kk i am one i'll try real quick
#1687 [16:50] <GenEtnad> nope didn't work
#1688 [16:51] <Thoatt> Does this happen all the time? or is it sporadic?
#1689 [16:51] <GenEtnad> all the time
#1690 [16:51] <xales> GenEtnad: try on another server
#1691 [16:52] <GenEtnad> weird part is crafting squares they work fine but i have to wait like 5+ seconds after hitting it to get into the menu
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#1693 [16:53] <Thoatt> What type of internet do you have?
#1694 [16:53] * VoxelHead is back
#1694 [16:53] <GenEtnad> highspeed
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#1697 [16:54] <Thoatt> highspeed what?
#1698 [16:54] <montezuma> my friend try to join my server and he cant becus it says bad login what should i do??
#1699 [16:54] <GenEtnad> internet?
#1700 [16:54] <Thoatt> ...
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#1702 [16:55] <Thoatt> If It's sattelite internet, your pings will be crappy, cable internet, not so much.
#1703 [16:55] <GenEtnad> oh cable sorry x.x
#1704 [16:55] <montezuma> can sommone Try to join my server and see if it works
#1705 [16:55] <Thoatt> montezuma: What is the address?
#1706 [16:55] <montezuma> 90.227.155.101
#1707 [16:55] <Thoatt> !check 90.227.155.101
#1708 [16:55] <Thoatt> works fine
#1709 [16:56] <montezuma> why cant he join then??
#1710 [16:56] <Thoatt> GenEtnad: Do you live far from where the server is hosted? like is it hosted across the world?
#1711 [16:56] <Thoatt> Can he join others?
#1712 [16:56] <GenEtnad> no we live under 50 miles away from eachother
#1713 [16:57] <montezuma> he havent tried
#1714 [16:57] <Thoatt> Wait. uhh... bad login, has he purchased the game?
#1715 [16:57] <montezuma> yeah
#1716 [16:57] <Thoatt> GenEtnad: What kind of internet does the server run on?
#1717 [16:58] <oldtopmanserver> !paid montezuma
#1718 [16:58] <oldtopmanserver> !paid oldtopman
#1719 [16:58] <Thoatt> !paid Thoatt
#1720 [16:58] <Thoatt> :)
#1721 [16:59] <VoxelHead> =D
#1722 [16:59] <oldtopmanserver> So there you go. The reason for the bad login
#1723 [16:59] <montezuma> !paid Morinjr
#1724 [16:59] <GenEtnad> cable, same provider
#1725 [16:59] <oldtopmanserver> Please don't spam it
#1726 [17:00] <Thoatt> ??? montezuma win/reinst
#1727 [17:00] <Thoatt> ??> montezuma win/reinst
#1728 [17:00] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1729 [17:00] <montezuma> what
#1730 [17:00] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1731 [17:00] <Thoatt> that
#1732 [17:00] <Thoatt> Try that :)
#1733 [17:01] <Thoatt> GenEtnad: Do you mind if I join the server you are having issues on?
#1734 [17:01] <oldtopmanserver> Thoatt: montezuma has not paid for minecraft
#1735 [17:01] <GenEtnad> nope
#1736 [17:01] <Thoatt> oldtopmanserver:
#1737 [17:01] <Thoatt> 16:58 < montezuma> !paid Morinjr
#1738 [17:01] <Thoatt> his friend has paid.
#1739 [17:01] <GenEtnad> ip is : 98.250.202.122
#1740 [17:01] <oldtopmanserver> But he hasn't "<AuBot> montezuma has NOT paid for Minecraft!"
#1741 [17:02] <Thoatt> Just because his name in here is montezuma doesn't mean his minecraft name is montezuma
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#1743 [17:02] <Drallacire> Memory filling up and black screen. Java is newest version and only java on machine. Patched with and running 32X32 mixcraft. Is the mixcraft the problem. Hard to go back to 16x16. :)
#1744 [17:02] <montezuma> i have
#1745 [17:02] <montezuma> Paid
#1746 [17:03] <xales> montezuma: Bad Login means someone didn't pay, or played it without paying at some point
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#1748 [17:05] <Drallacire> Is the black screen issue a taboo issue. :) I've read for hours and tried alot. Can't seem to get it gone.
#1749 [17:06] <xales> ??> Drallacire win/reinst
#1750 [17:06] <VoxelHead> Drallacire: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1751 [17:06] <VoxelHead> Drallacire: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1752 [17:06] <Thoatt> GenEtnad: pm?
#1753 [17:06] <GenEtnad> kk
#1754 [17:07] <Drallacire> ok. I'll try that again. for the 4th time. lol. Thanks for the luck. I hope it helps.
#1755 [17:08] <TheNytangel> !server
#1756 [17:09] <Thoatt> Drallacire: Do you have 64-bit?
#1757 [17:09] <Drallacire> Nope. 32 bit. with 32 bit java installed.
#1758 [17:09] <Thoatt> Hmmm...
#1759 [17:10] <xales> Drallacire: Try deleting everything in the .minecraft folder, except 'saved'
#1760 [17:10] <xales> err
#1761 [17:10] <xales> 'saves'
#1762 [17:10] <Drallacire> Went through so many forums and stuff, can't seem to make it go away. Even reverted to java update 23 to see if it was that.
#1763 [17:10] <VoxelHead> i like them ^_^
#1764 [17:11] <Drallacire> Will try it. Also will not install HD patch. Then test more. 16x16 will have to do if that fixes it.
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#1767 [17:12] <umbridge> hey
#1768 [17:12] <xales> hi
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#1770 [17:17] <umbridge> hello my m8 cant join me and he have bought the game same as i. its says bad login and end of stream for him
#1771 [17:17] <xales> umbridge: what is your friend's username?
#1772 [17:17] <umbridge> morinjr
#1773 [17:17] <LoRDTrevor> log into the site and log out
#1774 [17:18] <xales> umbridge: have your friend come on
#1775 [17:18] <LoRDTrevor> while not logged into the game
#1776 [17:18] <umbridge> no
#1777 [17:18] <umbridge> but others can join
#1778 [17:19] * mib_qdhkje [mib_qdhkje@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1779 [17:19] <mib_qdhkje> Hello
#1780 [17:19] <mib_qdhkje> IM mib
#1781 [17:19] <mib_qdhkje> And im best
#1782 [17:19] <Thoatt> Hello
#1783 [17:19] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE mib? feel these nipples!
#1784 [17:19] <umbridge> what should i do
#1785 [17:19] <mib_qdhkje> :D
#1786 [17:19] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1787 [17:19] <xales> umbridge: tell your friend to come on
#1788 [17:19] <mib_qdhkje> can u feel my heart beat fast !
#1789 [17:20] * xales kicked mib_qdhkje from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mib_qdhkje)
#1790 [17:20] * mib_qdhkje [mib_qdhkje@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1791 [17:20] <mib_qdhkje> Why cant i join my friend, its just End of stream all the time ...
#1792 [17:20] <umbridge> its says bad login
#1793 [17:20] <mib_qdhkje> :(
#1794 [17:20] <VoxelHead> cheer up mib_qdhkje
#1795 [17:20] <VoxelHead> *hugs*
#1796 [17:21] <mib_qdhkje> Well
#1797 [17:21] <umbridge> xales what should i do
#1798 [17:21] <mib_qdhkje> :D
#1799 [17:21] <xales> umbridge: is mib_qdhkje your friend?
#1800 [17:21] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1801 [17:22] <Thoatt> umbridge: Have morninjr come in and talk with us.
#1802 [17:22] <umbridge> he cant send anthing it says for him
#1803 [17:22] <mib_qdhkje> And im hes friend to, and i just get end of stream all the time !
#1804 [17:22] <xales> ??> mib_qdhkje win/reinst
#1805 [17:22] <VoxelHead> mib_qdhkje: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1806 [17:22] <mib_qdhkje> (sad)
#1807 [17:22] <VoxelHead> mib_qdhkje: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1808 [17:22] <umbridge> hes says that it says cannot send to channel minecraft
#1809 [17:22] <xales> umbridge: he is in the wrong channel
#1810 [17:22] <xales> he needs to go to #minecrafthelp not #minecraft
#1811 [17:23] <mib_qdhkje> ^^
#1812 [17:23] <mib_qdhkje> Nice peoples here :)
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#1814 [17:23] <mib_evtrw0> Hello can some one help me with Minecraft ? When i join my friends server a message comes up "Bad Login"
#1815 [17:23] <mib_qdhkje> Varfรถr kan inte alla bara prata svenska nรคr alla typ รคr svensk ?
#1816 [17:23] <VoxelHead> Yes, but only on the third wednesday of every month.
#1817 [17:24] <umbridge> Mib_evtrw0 is Morinjr
#1818 [17:24] <xales> ??> mib_evtrw0 win/reinst
#1819 [17:24] <umbridge> so you know
#1820 [17:24] <VoxelHead> mib_evtrw0: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1821 [17:24] <VoxelHead> mib_evtrw0: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1822 [17:24] <mib_qdhkje> What does minecraft costs ?
#1823 [17:24] <umbridge> he have
#1824 [17:24] <mib_qdhkje> Hello
#1825 [17:24] <mib_evtrw0> I got problems ;) Nickname = MorinJr
#1826 [17:24] <umbridge> !paid morinJr
#1827 [17:25] <xales> mib_evtrw0: Follow the instructions that VoxelHead just gave you
#1828 [17:25] <xales> mib_qdhkje: http://minecraft.net/
#1829 [17:25] <mib_evtrw0> I have done it
#1830 [17:25] <mib_qdhkje> yes he have
#1831 [17:25] <mib_evtrw0> but it still dosen't work
#1832 [17:25] <mib_qdhkje> :(
#1833 [17:25] <xales> mib_evtrw0: were you playing Minecraft before you paid for it?
#1834 [17:25] <mib_qdhkje> yes
#1835 [17:26] <mib_evtrw0> Yes
#1836 [17:26] <Thoatt> mib_evtrw0: try using the game in the browser.
#1837 [17:26] <mib_evtrw0> I was
#1838 [17:26] <mib_evtrw0> I have already done it
#1839 [17:26] <mib_evtrw0> but dosen't works:/
#1840 [17:26] <xales> That is why it doesn't work
#1841 [17:26] <mib_qdhkje> :/
#1842 [17:26] <xales> using the illegal free version breaks your computer
#1843 [17:27] <mib_qdhkje> how much ?
#1844 [17:27] <Thoatt> go to %appdata% and delete the .minecraft folder
#1845 [17:27] <mib_evtrw0> That wasn't good at all :/
#1846 [17:27] <mib_evtrw0> Okey
#1847 [17:27] <mib_evtrw0> okey now i deleted it so now i gonna try ?
#1848 [17:27] <mib_evtrw0> to join again?
#1849 [17:27] <Thoatt> try joinging again
#1850 [17:27] <mib_qdhkje> Xales
#1851 [17:27] <mib_qdhkje> What do u mean with break your computer ?
#1852 [17:28] <mib_evtrw0> should i do force update?
#1853 [17:28] <mib_evtrw0> first?
#1854 [17:28] <Thoatt> yeah.
#1855 [17:28] <mib_evtrw0> or does it matter?
#1856 [17:28] <mib_evtrw0> okey
#1857 [17:28] <xales> mib_qdhkje: It works like a virus and changes settings in the computer
#1858 [17:28] <xales> so that it does not work
#1859 [17:28] <Thoatt> It will update anyways.
#1860 [17:28] <mib_evtrw0> okey;)
#1861 [17:28] <Thoatt> xales: it depends on what free version he got :)
#1862 [17:29] <xales> Thoatt: The ones that are fixed by deleting .minecraft are the ones that don't do that
#1863 [17:29] <xales> :)
#1864 [17:29] <mib_qdhkje> Xales
#1865 [17:29] <mib_qdhkje> What did u mean with that ?
#1866 [17:29] <mib_qdhkje> using the illegal free version breaks your compute
#1867 [17:29] <mib_qdhkje> r
#1868 [17:29] <VoxelHead> r =O
#1869 [17:30] <xales> mib_qdhkje: It means you cannot use your computer to play it properlu
#1870 [17:30] <xales> properly
#1871 [17:30] <mib_qdhkje> Aha
#1872 [17:30] <mib_qdhkje> ^^
#1873 [17:30] <VoxelHead> =D
#1874 [17:30] <mib_evtrw0> It's still bad login?
#1875 [17:30] <mib_qdhkje> :(
#1876 [17:30] * VoxelHead befriends mib_qdhkje
#1876 [17:31] <Thoatt> mib_evtrw0 do you know how to check your hosts file?
#1877 [17:31] <VoxelHead> have you tried google?
#1878 [17:31] <mib_evtrw0> Yes i tried it.
#1879 [17:32] <mib_evtrw0> Tried everything i need to do ;)
#1880 [17:32] <mib_qdhkje> :P
#1881 [17:32] <Thoatt> 17:30 < Thoatt> mib_evtrw0 do you know how to check your hosts file?
#1882 [17:32] <mib_qdhkje> ร„r nรฅgon svensk?
#1883 [17:32] <mib_qdhkje> Blir lรคttare dรฅ ^^
#1884 [17:33] <mib_qdhkje> Where are u guys from ?
#1885 [17:33] <Thoatt> English only please :)
#1886 [17:33] <umbridge> what
#1887 [17:33] <mib_qdhkje> Okey, i asked if u guys were from sweden ^^
#1888 [17:33] <mib_evtrw0> No i dont know how to check host files:/
#1889 [17:34] <Thoatt> *sigh*
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#1891 [17:34] <Thoatt> xales: is there a VoxelHead entry for that? lol
#1892 [17:34] <xales> no
#1893 [17:34] <xales> :|
#1894 [17:34] <Thoatt> :( ok lol
#1895 [17:34] <mib_q56vxt> tja
#1896 [17:34] * fogWraith is not from sverige and vet inte if he can hjไlpa
#1896 [17:35] <VoxelHead> i do love a good ising
#1897 [17:35] <mib_q56vxt> kรคften bรถg!
#1898 [17:35] <Thoatt> ...
#1899 [17:35] <Thoatt> Englsih only.
#1900 [17:35] <mib_q56vxt> neger jรคvel
#1901 [17:35] <Thoatt> :)
#1902 [17:35] <VoxelHead> =]
#1903 [17:35] <mib_q56vxt> gรฅ och dรถ
#1904 [17:35] <fogWraith> GreyVulpine
#1905 [17:35] <mib_q56vxt> :D
#1906 [17:35] <mib_q56vxt> its a fun day
#1907 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Yo?
#1908 [17:35] <mib_evtrw0> So what should i do , Do u got any tips ? :/
#1909 [17:35] <mib_q56vxt> on swedish
#1910 [17:35] <fogWraith> mib_q56vxt, is calling me a fag, nigger, and faggot
#1911 [17:35] <mib_q56vxt> in
#1912 [17:35] <mib_q56vxt> *
#1913 [17:35] <mib_evtrw0> I bought this game this day :(
#1914 [17:35] <mib_evtrw0> And it still dosen't works
#1915 [17:35] <fogWraith> and tells me to go die
#1916 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> You're vop, you have access to kick
#1917 [17:36] <fogWraith> !kick mib_q56vxt
#1918 [17:36] * AuBot kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I love you too! <3 (Issued by fogWraith with reason: None given.))
#1919 [17:36] <fogWraith> <3
#1920 [17:36] <fogWraith> Thank you GreyVulpine
#1921 [17:36] * mib_q56vxt [mib_q56vxt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1922 [17:36] <mib_qdhkje> fodwraith
#1923 [17:36] <fogWraith> Didn't know that
#1924 [17:36] <mib_qdhkje> Are u from sweden ?
#1925 [17:36] <fogWraith> I am from Sweden, I understood every word, I didn't like them
#1926 [17:36] <mib_evtrw0> U got any tips ? :/
#1927 [17:36] <mib_qdhkje> Okej ;)
#1928 [17:36] <mib_q56vxt> kickar du mig igen sรฅ ska jag knulla din morsa fattar du det eller?
#1929 [17:36] <mib_evtrw0> What should i do with this problem?
#1930 [17:36] <fogWraith> !kick mib_q56vxt
#1931 [17:36] * AuBot kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by fogWraith with reason: None given.))
#1932 [17:36] <mib_qdhkje> Bra men kan du kanske hjรคpa dรฅ ?
#1933 [17:36] <fogWraith> GreyVulpine, ban him
#1934 [17:37] <xales> mib_evtrw0: Don't play games without buying them?
#1935 [17:37] <mib_qdhkje> fogWraith
#1936 [17:37] <mib_qdhkje> hjรคlp oss ! :D
#1937 [17:37] * mib_q56vxt [mib_q56vxt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1938 [17:37] <mib_evtrw0> Well i buyed it ..
#1939 [17:37] <mib_q56vxt> dun bรถg!
#1940 [17:37] * xales kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mib_q56vxt)
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#1942 [17:37] <xales> wat
#1943 [17:37] <xales> banlist is full
#1944 [17:37] <fogWraith> :|
#1945 [17:37] <mib_q56vxt> stop
#1946 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Holy crap
#1947 [17:37] <mib_evtrw0> i buyed it ?
#1948 [17:37] <mib_q56vxt> neger fitta
#1949 [17:38] <mib_q56vxt> kom dรฅ
#1950 [17:38] <mib_qdhkje> Lol
#1951 [17:38] <fogWraith> mib_q56vxt, offensive words aren't helping you
#1952 [17:38] <mib_qdhkje> Varfรถr sรคger du sรฅ ?
#1953 [17:38] <fogWraith> !kick mib_q56vxt
#1954 [17:38] * AuBot kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by fogWraith with reason: None given.))
#1955 [17:38] <VoxelHead> no thanks, i already have some
#1956 [17:38] * mib_q56vxt [mib_q56vxt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1957 [17:38] <Thoatt> !kick mib_q56vxt
#1958 [17:38] <mib_q56vxt> neger
#1959 [17:38] <Thoatt> lol
#1960 [17:38] <fogWraith> !kick mib_q56vxt
#1961 [17:38] * AuBot kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by fogWraith with reason: None given.))
#1962 [17:38] * mib_q56vxt [mib_q56vxt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1963 [17:38] <fogWraith> !kick mib_q56vxt
#1964 [17:38] * AuBot kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I love you too! <3 (Issued by fogWraith with reason: None given.))
#1965 [17:38] * mib_q56vxt [mib_q56vxt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1966 [17:38] <fogWraith> !kick mib_q56vxt
#1967 [17:38] * AuBot kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by fogWraith with reason: None given.))
#1968 [17:38] * mib_q56vxt [mib_q56vxt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1969 [17:38] <xales> fogWraith: let me kickban now
#1970 [17:38] <fogWraith> !kick mib_q56vxt
#1971 [17:38] * AuBot kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by fogWraith with reason: None given.))
#1972 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> GRAH
#1973 [17:38] <fogWraith> I would love that, xales
#1974 [17:38] * GreyVulpine pokes fogWraith
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#1975 [17:38] * xales kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mib_q56vxt)
#1976 [17:38] <xales> derp
#1977 [17:38] * fogWraith does a dance with GreyVulpine
#1977 [17:39] <mib_qdhkje> fogWraith
#1978 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> ..
#1979 [17:39] <mib_qdhkje> fogWraith
#1980 [17:39] <mib_qdhkje> Hjรคlp oss ! :S
#1981 [17:39] <fogWraith> Either way, he's using every word in the book for offending both me and others
#1982 [17:39] <mib_evtrw0> So xales or someone dosen't u know how to help ?
#1983 [17:39] <mib_evtrw0> :/
#1984 [17:39] <VoxelHead> fogwraith: others and me
#1985 [17:39] * Kealper kicked mib_qdhkje from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mib_qdhkje)
#1986 [17:39] <fogWraith> mib_evtrw0, I would be happy to help, if you're friendly
#1987 [17:39] <fogWraith> I mean, the other one ;P
#1988 [17:39] <Thoatt> lol
#1989 [17:39] <mib_evtrw0> aha okey ;)
#1990 [17:40] <umbridge> evrtrw0 is my friend
#1991 [17:40] <fogWraith> Right so, uhm... back to business everyone?
#1992 [17:40] <mib_evtrw0> Iam always friendly ;) And i would be glad if i could play this beutiful game ;D
#1993 [17:40] <mib_evtrw0> yepp
#1994 [17:40] <fogWraith> What was your problem?
#1995 [17:40] <mib_evtrw0> Reason is "Bad Login"
#1996 [17:40] <mib_evtrw0> Cant join my friends server
#1997 [17:40] <fogWraith> Every server you try, or just his?
#1998 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#1999 [17:40] <VoxelHead> lots and lots of tea
#2000 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#2001 [17:41] <mib_evtrw0> i bought this game this day
#2002 [17:41] <VoxelHead> :(
#2003 [17:41] * fogWraith lol's
#2003 [17:41] <Thoatt> Yes, but he has used a hacked version before he paid for it.
#2004 [17:41] * mib_q56vxt [mib_q56vxt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2005 [17:41] <mib_q56vxt> tja
#2006 [17:41] <mib_q56vxt> :D
#2007 [17:41] <fogWraith> You will need to do WIN+R and type %appdata%
#2008 [17:41] <fogWraith> Then remove .minecraft
#2009 [17:41] <Thoatt> fogWraith: already tried it lol
#2010 [17:41] * xales kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mib_q56vxt)
#2011 [17:41] <mib_evtrw0> i have already done it
#2012 [17:41] <fogWraith> Aaah, I see
#2013 [17:41] <fogWraith> Have you tried any other servers?
#2014 [17:41] <Drallacire> ok. deleted everything in .minecraft, moved saves back in. Running in 16x16. F3 says 234 of 989MB and hasn't crashed. Task manager says. 989MB in use by java. No addons, No HD patch. Just waiting for the black screen at this point. Should crest 1 gig soon. Will let you know.
#2015 [17:41] <mib_evtrw0> ^^
#2016 [17:41] <mib_evtrw0> nope just this one
#2017 [17:42] <fogWraith> Try crafted.se or 217.211.17.244
#2018 [17:42] <fogWraith> I see Thoatt
#2019 [17:42] <mib_evtrw0> okey.
#2020 [17:42] <fogWraith> And one that just dies each time
#2021 [17:43] <mib_evtrw0> " Bad Login" Theres something wrong with my computer.
#2022 [17:43] <mib_evtrw0> Thoatt are maybe right.
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#2028 [17:43] * VoxelHead kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: requested)
#2029 [17:43] <Thoatt> mib_evtrw0: do you have teamviewer?
#2030 [17:43] <fogWraith> Yes, I saw you trying to connect, but it just lost it
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#2032 [17:43] * VoxelHead kicked mib_q56vxt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: requested)
#2033 [17:44] <mib_evtrw0> Nope i dont have teamviewer
#2034 [17:44] <Thoatt> do you have any type of remote desktop application?
#2035 [17:45] <mib_evtrw0> haha i dont know :S ?
#2036 [17:45] <fogWraith> www.teamviewer.com
#2037 [17:45] <mib_evtrw0> okey
#2038 [17:45] <fogWraith> It's free and available for use without installing it
#2039 [17:46] <mib_evtrw0> no install also?
#2040 [17:46] <Thoatt> correct.
#2041 [17:46] * GreyVulpine pokes DopeGhoti or xales
#2041 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Can we clear the banlist for #MineCraftHelp?
#2042 [17:46] <mib_evtrw0> so what should i do with it?
#2043 [17:46] * fogWraith vouches for GreyVulpine's suggestion
#2043 [17:46] <Thoatt> just run it. It wsill ask you if you want to install it, or run it.
#2044 [17:46] <Thoatt> just select run
#2045 [17:46] <Thoatt> Then give either fogWraith or myself the id/pass
#2046 [17:47] <Thoatt> or xales if he wishes to help.
#2047 [17:47] <fogWraith> ME?! :O
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#2049 [17:47] <Thoatt> idk... didn't you volunteer? lol
#2050 [17:47] <fogWraith> I guess I did :|
#2051 [17:47] <Thoatt> lool
#2052 [17:47] <mib_evtrw0> okey i clicked on run ;)
#2053 [17:47] <VoxelHead> loooooooooooooool
#2054 [17:47] <fogWraith> Shut your face, VoxelHead
#2055 [17:47] <mib_evtrw0> and now?
#2056 [17:47] <mib_evtrw0> I gonna have a partners id ? ;)
#2057 [17:47] <Thoatt> it should display an 'id' and password
#2058 [17:48] <mib_evtrw0> yea
#2059 [17:48] <mib_evtrw0> true
#2060 [17:48] <Thoatt> give me those :)
#2061 [17:48] <Thoatt> or fogWraith
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#2063 [17:49] <mib_evtrw0> now;)
#2064 [17:49] <mib_evtrw0> i sent u pm^^
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#2066 [17:49] <Thoatt> I am connected
#2067 [17:49] <mib_evtrw0> Awesome;)
#2068 [17:49] <StolenHail> hi
#2069 [17:50] <StolenHail> im just wondering how to make my game run faster and smoother
#2070 [17:50] <Thoatt> Purchase a better computer :)
#2071 [17:50] <mib_evtrw0> HAHAHAHAH
#2072 [17:50] <mib_evtrw0> xD
#2073 [17:50] <mib_evtrw0> indeed^^
#2074 [17:50] <VoxelHead> as president, I will ensure that all mankind HAS ITS LEGS SAWN OFF .... and replaced with legs of PURE GOLD!
#2075 [17:51] <StolenHail> haha i meant like stuff i can do to my current computer or in game
#2076 [17:51] <VoxelHead> Silence... my victory begins now#@$ฃ!%percent%percent^%percent$ฃ*~$@.
#2077 [17:53] <Drallacire> Well, crashed minecraft in 16x16 and now java throwing an error. I think it was at 1.1 gig memory or so. Catch ya later guys. Have fun and Good Gam'n. Wish me luck in figuring this out.
#2078 [17:53] <VoxelHead> i hope it doesn't explode
#2079 [17:53] <Drallacire> It will. Mwa ha ha ha. it will.
#2080 [17:54] <StolenHail> so does anyone have any advice
#2081 [17:55] <xales> StolenHail: turn down the settings, get a better computer
#2082 [17:55] <xales> those are the two options
#2083 [17:55] <StolenHail> what settings would i adjust?
#2084 [17:56] <xales> turn off smooth lighting, set graphics to "fast" not "fancy" and turn down render distance
#2085 [17:56] <StolenHail> ok thanks :)
#2086 [17:58] <Thoatt> I have to go now =/
#2087 [17:58] <Thoatt> I'll be back later :)
#2088 [17:58] <TheNytangel> !server
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#2093 [18:01] <noob> hello i need help with my private server that i own
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#2095 [18:01] <xales> Okay...?
#2096 [18:01] <xales> What specifically do you need help with?
#2097 [18:02] <DiZ> hey does any body here now how to make a mutli sever on alpha
#2098 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Alpha?
#2099 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Surivial or creative?
#2100 [18:02] <VoxelHead> crap
#2101 [18:02] <noob> im wondering what all controls i can use as the owner and admin of it i purchased it from all gamer.net and i dont have a list of available commands besides whats on mcmyadmin
#2102 [18:02] <DiZ> survial
#2103 [18:02] <noob> its a beta server
#2104 [18:02] <mib_89g8t3> Thoatt are u there ? ;)
#2105 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes DiZ, just download the server at:
#2106 [18:02] <xales> [A
#2107 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2108 [18:03] <DiZ> ok thanks
#2109 [18:03] <noob> i hit !server and it says all the available commands as the owner
#2110 [18:04] <noob> dangit can anyone help me?
#2111 [18:04] <mib_89g8t3> Hi again . Now i got another nick but I need help and thoatt helped me but something happend and the teamviwer closed ... The problem was that i couldn't join a server it was "Bad Login"
#2112 [18:05] <xales> noob: It depends on what plugins you installed on the server
#2113 [18:05] <xales> mib_89g8t3: Someone may be around to help you, I can't at the moment
#2114 [18:05] <mib_89g8t3> Okey np ;)
#2115 [18:05] <noob> umm what do u mean it is fromm all gamer so idk if can instal any
#2116 [18:06] <xales> noob: you can. You would install them using the FTP access that AllGamer gives you
#2117 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Bye DiZ.
#2118 [18:06] <xales> noob: I don't know what it comes with by default. You have to ask AllGamer about that.
#2119 [18:07] <noob> mmk umm that would be included in the original infor they gave me to log into mc myadmin and thing with right
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#2121 [18:08] <FenaDevka> can someone help me?
#2122 [18:08] <xales> I don't know, I do not work for AllGamer
#2123 [18:08] <xales> FenaDevka: with?
#2124 [18:08] <AG_Clinton> I do, what's up?
#2125 [18:08] <FenaDevka> i bought minecraft and now after 2-5 mins it crashes
#2126 [18:08] <AG_Clinton> The client?
#2127 [18:08] <FenaDevka> yes
#2128 [18:08] <xales> How much RAM do you have?
#2129 [18:09] <FenaDevka> uhh
#2130 [18:09] <AG_Clinton> noob: You have a server from us? What do you need help with?
#2131 [18:09] <noob> ag clinton i need help as well but ill wait till he gets done first
#2132 [18:09] <FenaDevka> 2gb of ram
#2133 [18:09] <AG_Clinton> I can multitask.
#2134 [18:09] <xales> FenaDevka: Do you have any other programs open? If so, close them. Every single one.
#2135 [18:09] <FenaDevka> ok...
#2136 [18:09] <noob> ummm im wondering what my commands are that i can use for default and also how i can download plugins for my commands and from where i get these pluggins
#2137 [18:09] <FenaDevka> kk, now what
#2138 [18:10] <xales> FenaDevka: Try running it again?
#2139 [18:10] <FenaDevka> i just got on my world, ill tell u when it crashes
#2140 [18:11] <AG_Clinton> noob: You can install bukkit and use plugins with that.
#2141 [18:11] <noob> sorry this is also my first server ever ran for anything like any mmorpg so im not used to the owner world so thats why i came here figured id get help eventually
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#2143 [18:11] <AG_Clinton> Right now I assume you have McMyAdmin, and that has some plugins of it's own.
#2144 [18:11] <AG_Clinton> Err
#2145 [18:11] <AG_Clinton> Commands rather.
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#2147 [18:11] <wolf_alex> hai xales
#2148 [18:11] <noob> yes
#2149 [18:11] <FenaDevka> it just crashed
#2150 [18:11] <xales> Hi?
#2151 [18:11] <xales> ??> FenaDevka win/reinst
#2152 [18:11] <VoxelHead> FenaDevka: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2153 [18:11] <VoxelHead> FenaDevka: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2154 [18:11] <wolf_alex> xales do you do mod help?
#2155 [18:12] <xales> No
#2156 [18:12] <noob> wait is there a way to download a server running program that allows me to control it without my web browser
#2157 [18:12] <mib_89g8t3> Well , Could some one help me now ? ;)
#2158 [18:12] <xales> noob: You could control it in the game, or in your web browser. Nowhere else.
#2159 [18:12] <FenaDevka> ok, voxel, i did that
#2160 [18:12] <AG_Clinton> noob: Not really.
#2161 [18:12] <xales> FenaDevka: VoxelHead is a bot. Once you do that, try playing again
#2162 [18:12] <FenaDevka> kk
#2163 [18:13] <noob> cuz in the email u guys sent me it said something about u can manually manage files from here and there was a link
#2164 [18:13] <noob> or something
#2165 [18:13] <FenaDevka> i have a beast house :)
#2166 [18:13] <FenaDevka> and it just crashed....
#2167 [18:14] <noob> yea theres winscp whats that?
#2168 [18:14] <xales> FenaDevka: Go to Options->Graphic Options in the game, uncheck Smooth Lighting
#2169 [18:14] <TheNytangel> poo
#2170 [18:15] <noob> AG_Clinton what is winscp
#2171 [18:15] * xales pokes AG_Clinton with noob
#2171 [18:15] <fogWraith> xales, my fingers hurt ;(
#2172 [18:15] <noob> lol
#2173 [18:15] <FenaDevka> it already was
#2174 [18:15] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#2175 [18:15] <xales> fogWraith: why?
#2176 [18:15] <AG_Clinton> It's an SCP client that uses SFTP.
#2177 [18:15] <AG_Clinton> http://wiki.allgamer.net/SFTP
#2178 [18:15] <fogWraith> I'm writing a plugin and a noob-safe config file
#2179 [18:15] <fogWraith> Explaining every bloody entry
#2180 [18:16] <noob> u sure its noob safe frog
#2181 [18:16] <fogWraith> It is
#2182 [18:16] <fogWraith> If they really fail, guess what I have at the end of the config?
#2183 [18:16] <FenaDevka> xales, i already had it unchecked
#2184 [18:16] <noob> idk ur speaking to expert noob
#2185 [18:16] <xales> FenaDevka: Turn graphics to "fast" and Render Distance to "tiny" and try
#2186 [18:16] <FenaDevka> already were
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#2188 [18:17] <xales> FenaDevka: What happens when it crashes? Does it just close? Does it blackscreen? Error message?
#2189 [18:17] <FenaDevka> it just closes
#2190 [18:18] <xales> Try playing in the browser, see if it crashes there
#2191 [18:18] <FenaDevka> kk
#2192 [18:18] <FenaDevka> just logged on world, ill tell u if it crashes
#2193 [18:19] <fogWraith> xales,
#2194 [18:19] <fogWraith> DidYou:
#2195 [18:19] <fogWraith> Read:
#2196 [18:19] <fogWraith> Understand:
#2197 [18:19] <fogWraith> Configure: false
#2198 [18:19] <xales> lol
#2199 [18:19] <noob> mmk well i guess what i need is winscp but not my computer im using right now so i have to use mine get winscp and then im able manage my server and get my admins
#2200 [18:19] <noob> thank you AG_Clinton
#2201 [18:19] <AG_Clinton> You're welcome.
#2202 [18:19] <fogWraith> xales, I think it's one of those things that are REALLY required :P
#2203 [18:19] <noob> bye all
#2204 [18:19] <AG_Clinton> See ya.
#2205 [18:19] <fogWraith> Have a good one, noob !
#2206 [18:19] <xales> fogWraith: ever seen Eggdrop's configuration file?
#2207 [18:19] <noob> bye small cruel world bye earth agh
#2208 [18:19] <xales> There are TWO lines that need to be deleted in it
#2209 [18:19] <FenaDevka> it just crashed
#2210 [18:20] <fogWraith> xales, thats where I got the idea
#2211 [18:20] <xales> yet people still manage to fuck it up
#2212 [18:20] <xales> ??> FenaDevka win/dxdiag
#2213 [18:20] <VoxelHead> FenaDevka: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2214 [18:20] <AG_Clinton> xales: Lolol I love configs like that.
#2215 [18:20] <VoxelHead> FenaDevka: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2216 [18:20] <noob> lol bye
#2217 [18:20] <fogWraith> xales, I know... it's weird... when was it implented? during the 90's?
#2218 [18:20] <FenaDevka> and i cant play multiplayer
#2219 [18:20] <xales> FenaDevka: Why can't you?
#2220 [18:21] <mib_89g8t3> Hello can someone hepl me? when i join a server a message comes up " Bad Login" and i have tried all servers and a admin did Teamviewer with me and after it closed so i ask u again if u could try to help me ?
#2221 [18:21] <xales> mib_89g8t3: ask Kealper
#2222 [18:21] <xales> if he is around
#2223 [18:21] <mib_89g8t3> Okey
#2224 [18:21] <FenaDevka> i dunno xales... it just does some weird crap
#2225 [18:21] <fogWraith> mib_89g8t3
#2226 [18:21] <FenaDevka> i gtg
#2227 [18:22] <mib_89g8t3> Yes ? ;)
#2228 [18:22] <fogWraith> PM me your details for login to teamviewer
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#2230 [18:22] <mib_89g8t3> Okey
#2231 [18:22] <fogWraith> Also, open Notepad
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#2233 [18:22] <mib_89g8t3> u are an admin right ? ;)
#2234 [18:22] <mib_89g8t3> Yes u are ^^
#2235 [18:22] <mib_89g8t3> well i send u now
#2236 [18:22] <fogWraith> Trusted, at the very least :)
#2237 [18:23] <mib_89g8t3> ^^
#2238 [18:23] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2239 [18:23] <fogWraith> Shut it, VoxelHead
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#2244 [18:33] <Deltafire> VoxelHead: /msg chanserv clear #minecrafthelp bans ;)
#2245 [18:33] <xales> Deltafire: tis a bot
#2246 [18:33] <xales> :|
#2247 [18:34] <Deltafire> :o
#2248 [18:34] <VoxelHead> well slap my eyeball and call me VoxelHead
#2249 [18:35] * fogWraith slaps VoxelHead
#2249 [18:35] <VoxelHead> Arrgh my nail! now i only have 22 left
#2250 [18:35] <VoxelHead> look, here in this box.
#2251 [18:35] <fogWraith> :|
#2252 [18:35] <xales> |:
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#2255 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> รท
#2256 [18:39] <xales> /o\
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#2258 [18:42] <fogWraith> There we go, another happy customer
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#2262 [18:45] <Jaf> Hello?
#2263 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2264 [18:46] <Jaf> I have a issue, which is that my minecraft launcher does not seems to be able to connect to Minecraft.net whilst I am still able to login using the web client, the error message I'm getting is "Couldn't connect to minecraft.net"
#2265 [18:47] <Jaf> Which is qutie puzzling.
#2266 [18:47] <Jaf> quite* even
#2267 [18:47] <xales> Check the time and date on your computer
#2268 [18:47] <xales> Make sure they are correct, especially the date.
#2269 [18:48] <RF> Jaf: Test both the "new" client and the "old" client
#2270 [18:49] <Jaf> The changing of date and time did the trick, I must have accidently changed them when my installation of windows messed up. Thanks a bunch :>
#2271 [18:50] <xales> No problem
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#2273 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> xales: there is an NTP faq entry now :)
#2274 [18:54] <xales> /o\
#2275 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> ??>> xales ntp
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#2284 [19:20] <bokaholic> Does this room also help with Minecraft server issues?
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#2286 [19:20] <lemon-rev> depends on the issue
#2287 [19:20] <SirLittle> Hello
#2288 [19:20] <SirLittle> I need help with starting up Minecraft
#2289 [19:21] <SirLittle> Every time I open up minecraft, it shows the "Mojang" screen for about 15-20 seconds, and then the screen exits out automatically.
#2290 [19:21] <SirLittle> What do I do?
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#2292 [19:21] <lemon-rev> SirLittle what seems to be the problem and try and tell me what is happing
#2293 [19:21] <lemon-rev> so can you get to log in ?
#2294 [19:21] <SirLittle> Yes
#2295 [19:21] <SirLittle> But the Mojang screen is as far as I can get
#2296 [19:21] <lemon-rev> ok, can you please try the minecraft.net site, log in and try and play though it
#2297 [19:22] <SirLittle> Play through what?
#2298 [19:22] <SirLittle> The download?
#2299 [19:22] <lemon-rev> the web browswer
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#2301 [19:22] <SirLittle> So...The Free Version?
#2302 [19:22] <bokaholic> Hmm.. Issue. Timing out, I guess would be the issue. Cannot connect to the IP. Me and the Mister are rather boggled. So I turn to you guys for help.
#2303 [19:22] <lemon-rev> you can play it on the page of minecraft if you log in, no you paid for it did you ?
#2304 [19:22] <gethero> are here germany?
#2305 [19:22] <gethero> germans*
#2306 [19:22] <SirLittle> I paid for it.
#2307 [19:22] <SirLittle> OOOH i see what you're getting at.
#2308 [19:22] <lemon-rev> bokaholic whos the server
#2309 [19:23] <SirLittle> I've tried that, and it crashed like the Client.
#2310 [19:23] <lemon-rev> what the web browser closes ?
#2311 [19:23] <SirLittle> Not the browser itself, but where the game should be, it turns blank.
#2312 [19:23] <lemon-rev> sirlittle have you tryed reinstalling java
#2313 [19:23] <bokaholic> Who? Me.. I'm trying to turn one of my computers into a server for my friends and I.
#2314 [19:23] <SirLittle> Not yet.
#2315 [19:24] <SirLittle> One thing I could try also is uninstalling and re-installing Minecraft.
#2316 [19:24] <lemon-rev> bokaholic dude, ok , so have you got a router ?
#2317 [19:24] <SirLittle> I I'll try that first.
#2318 [19:24] <lemon-rev> thanks sirlittle
#2319 [19:24] <bokaholic> Yes. All ports are forwarded.
#2320 [19:25] <lemon-rev> could be your useing the wrong ip, ? what ip you useing for port forwarding
#2321 [19:26] <bokaholic> Welp, I ran CMD and got my internal port. 192.168.1.102 and forwarded 25565 through 25566. Then went to seemyip.com and got my external IP and gave that to my friends.
#2322 [19:27] <bokaholic> What's odd is that it worked once.. Then I went to work, returned.. And then it started timing out.
#2323 [19:27] <lemon-rev> HUM
#2324 [19:27] * bokaholic is pulling her hair out. D8
#2324 [19:28] <bokaholic> We've boggled over this for 2 days. Went over 10+ different youtube tutorials.
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#2326 [19:28] <lemon-rev> you reset computer + router ?
#2327 [19:28] <bokaholic> I just thought maybe something was up and I didn't know. So I came here to bug you guys. :D
#2328 [19:29] <bokaholic> So.. Reboot router and computer. I did reboot the computer and a couple days ago the router. But maybe if I comepletely bring the router back to the defults.
#2329 [19:29] <SirLittle[Away}> That was really odd.
#2330 [19:29] <Jaf> Huh
#2331 [19:29] <lemon-rev> ? sir little
#2332 [19:30] <Jaf> Failed to login: Bad login?
#2333 [19:30] <SirLittle> Minecraft randomly started working again!
#2334 [19:30] <SirLittle> T:D
#2335 [19:30] * bokaholic dances for Minecraft.
#2335 [19:30] <lemon-rev> hm
#2336 [19:30] <lemon-rev> ok then
#2337 [19:30] <lemon-rev> lol
#2338 [19:30] <bokaholic> \o/
#2339 [19:30] <SirLittle> I guess I don't need help any more.
#2340 [19:30] <SirLittle> Baibai.
#2341 [19:30] <bokaholic> See ya man.
#2342 [19:30] <lemon-rev> np sirlittle
#2343 [19:30] <Jaf> I'm a bit confused, all of the sudden I cannot connect to servers and it gives me the error "Bad login"
#2344 [19:31] <lemon-rev> jaf where are you trying to connect to the webpage or the game client
#2345 [19:31] <Jaf> The game client
#2346 [19:31] * bokaholic facedesks.
#2346 [19:32] <Jaf> Nvermind, it randomly starts working again. I'm a newb, sorry.
#2347 [19:32] <bokaholic> I sure wish my issue would randomly fix. D8
#2348 [19:32] <bokaholic> Lucky ducks.
#2349 [19:32] <lemon-rev> bokaholic
#2350 [19:32] <bokaholic> I just get frustrated and was to stab things. T_T
#2351 [19:32] <lemon-rev> did you see what i worte before
#2352 [19:33] <bokaholic> About rebooting computer & router?
#2353 [19:33] <lemon-rev> yes
#2354 [19:33] <bokaholic> Do you me restarting the router to factory defults? Or just rebooting it?
#2355 [19:33] <lemon-rev> and check that ip again, once you have done so
#2356 [19:33] <lemon-rev> just reboot it
#2357 [19:34] <lemon-rev> ie unplug it, replug it back in, kick it in the ass
#2358 [19:34] * bokaholic grins. "Throw it out the window, perhaps?"
#2358 [19:34] <lemon-rev> hahhahahaha
#2359 [19:34] <VoxelHead> i will call you... "pusstulio"
#2360 [19:34] <lemon-rev> if that makes you happy
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#2363 [19:35] <bokaholic> Alright. BRB - For rebootage.
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#2366 [19:44] <Dark_Fox> Do the biomes have seasons?
#2367 [19:44] <raskull> nope
#2368 [19:44] <raskull> they are static
#2369 [19:44] <Dark_Fox> Well, all of a sudden all the grass, trees, and the sky look really drab, even after a server restart
#2370 [19:45] <raskull> did you apply a texture pack? could be a time of day thing, too
#2371 [19:45] <Dark_Fox> It's not just me, either. The other user in the server is having problems with it as well
#2372 [19:45] <Dark_Fox> And no, no texture pack
#2373 [19:45] <Dark_Fox> It looks drab the entire day as well
#2374 [19:45] <raskull> do you run any sort of biome mod?
#2375 [19:45] <Dark_Fox> Nope. Vanilla server
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#2377 [19:46] <Dark_Fox> Like, pre-existing area suddenly changed hues
#2378 [19:46] <bokaholic> Hmm..
#2379 [19:47] <Dark_Fox> Yeah, the two of us are totally baffeled
#2380 [19:47] <lemon-rev> bokaholic
#2381 [19:47] <lemon-rev> bokaholic and ?
#2382 [19:47] <Dark_Fox> Like, for temperate grass, the sides look normal but the top looks like it's been colourwashed
#2383 [19:47] <Dark_Fox> temperate leaves look colourwashed as well
#2384 [19:48] <raskull> got a screenshot?
#2385 [19:48] <bokaholic> Still no connection. Same issue.
#2386 [19:48] <lemon-rev> did your ip change or you got static ?
#2387 [19:49] <Dark_Fox> I'll have to wait until morning
#2388 [19:49] <Dark_Fox> Er, morning in-game. It's night now so the effect isn't as obvious
#2389 [19:49] <bokaholic> IP did not change. :/
#2390 [19:50] * bokaholic facedesks again.
#2390 [19:50] <lemon-rev> bokaholic so you have static line then ? hm,
#2391 [19:51] <lemon-rev> !help
#2392 [19:51] <lemon-rev> !check
#2393 [19:51] <lemon-rev> !check bokaholic
#2394 [19:52] <bokaholic> What to you mean by 'static line'?
#2395 [19:52] <lemon-rev> !check bokaholic
#2396 [19:52] <lemon-rev> ok when you say disconnect from your net or network, if thats whats happening when you disconnect the router, do you also have a modem
#2397 [19:52] <lemon-rev> ?
#2398 [19:53] <bokaholic> Yes, I have a modem too
#2399 [19:53] <lemon-rev> your ip changes because most of the time when you get an ip your ip changes a little , and if you have static ip your ip always is the same but your paying a higher price for that
#2400 [19:53] <bokaholic> I shut down the PC's and after they were off I reboot the router.
#2401 [19:54] <lemon-rev> bokaholic type !check
#2402 [19:54] <bokaholic> !check
#2403 [19:54] <bokaholic> That is the IP I have been attempting. Why is it saying Sorry to me?
#2404 [19:54] <lemon-rev> thats the comptuer thats not the server correct, might have to jump on the server comptuer and do that
#2405 [19:55] <lemon-rev> because your computer you typed that check on is trying ot see if yuo can be ahost or not
#2406 [19:56] <bokaholic> I'm doing a few Windows 7 updates on the laptop.
#2407 [19:56] <bokaholic> So for a moment: We wait..
#2408 [19:56] <bokaholic> While we wait: How's your day been? ;D
#2409 [19:57] <lemon-rev> id rather not just chat commen unless theres other people that need help but its been good, little tired as iwoke up early on a saturday but all good otherwise
#2410 [19:58] <Dark_Fox> raskull: http://steamcommunity.com/id/darkfoxfurre/screenshots
#2411 [19:59] <bokaholic> Saturdays are over rated. I wanted to play Minecraft all day. But I'd rather start working on the server world instead of putting all my time into a world jsut for me.
#2412 [19:59] <Dark_Fox> You can see that t he sides of the grass are still a lush green, and that the tops are a faded, colourwashed green
#2413 [20:01] <Dark_Fox> On one or two of the last pics, there are two trees which have different colour leaves
#2414 [20:03] <raskull> it could be a differrent hue for a different biome, I'm not sure
#2415 [20:03] <raskull> def looks different to me, but there is definately not seasons
#2416 [20:12] <VoxelHead> mmm j4mie
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#2418 [20:21] <SirLittle> Hello again.
#2419 [20:21] <SirLittle> Minecraft is doing the same thing as it was eariler.
#2420 [20:21] <SirLittle> I open up the Client, Log in, and it gets to the "Mojang" screen. It then gets stuck and crashes after about 20 seconds.
#2421 [20:21] <SirLittle> I've already tried re-installing Java
#2422 [20:22] <SirLittle> And that didn't work.
#2423 [20:22] <SirLittle> Will anyone help me?
#2424 [20:22] <SirLittle> ANYONE?
#2425 [20:22] <SirLittle> -___-
#2426 [20:22] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2427 [20:22] <bokaholic> Whoah. Deep breath.
#2428 [20:23] <SirLittle> So...No one can.
#2429 [20:23] <SirLittle> Lovely.
#2430 [20:23] <bokaholic> Just wait a moment for ...
#2431 [20:23] <bokaholic> Really? Dude..
#2432 [20:23] <SirLittle> What
#2433 [20:23] <bokaholic> Calm down. :I
#2434 [20:23] <SirLittle> I've bene here for 5 minutes now.
#2435 [20:23] <SirLittle> *been
#2436 [20:23] <bokaholic> People go AFK for things.
#2437 [20:23] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#2438 [20:24] <SirLittle> There's hundreds of people on the chat, and ALL of them are AFK?
#2439 [20:24] <bokaholic> Well, wait longer. Don't go getting mad at the people who will end up helping you.
#2440 [20:24] <SirLittle> I wasn't getting mad, I was asking.
#2441 [20:24] <lemon-rev> sirlittle bokaholic is correct your going right off the deep end, and please try and keep your words to one liners is possible instead of pressing enter after eatch word
#2442 [20:25] <SirLittle> The sentences were about 20 seconds apart each.
#2443 [20:25] <lemon-rev> dude, i dont care just dont
#2444 [20:25] <lemon-rev> dk
#2445 [20:25] <lemon-rev> f
#2446 [20:25] <xales> ??> SirLittle win/reinst
#2447 [20:26] <SirLittle> Look who's talking.
#2448 [20:26] <VoxelHead> SirLittle: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2449 [20:26] <VoxelHead> SirLittle: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2450 [20:26] <lemon-rev> lol , see what autobot does
#2451 [20:26] <SirLittle> "Win"
#2452 [20:26] <SirLittle> There's not a button that says "win".
#2453 [20:26] <SirLittle> -_-
#2454 [20:26] <VoxelHead> =]
#2455 [20:26] <lemon-rev> hahahha
#2456 [20:26] <bokaholic> O.O;
#2457 [20:26] <SirLittle> AGH, can someone just help me?
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#2460 [20:27] <xales> SirLittle: The "Windows" button is the one between Control and Alt
#2461 [20:27] <SirLittle> He could've just said "Windows"...
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#2463 [20:28] <SirLittle> Okay, lemme see if that works...
#2464 [20:28] <SirLittle> Didn't work.
#2465 [20:29] <xales> You deleted the 'bin' folder?
#2466 [20:29] <SirLittle> yes.
#2467 [20:29] <xales> Make a new user account on your computer and try it under that
#2468 [20:29] <SirLittle> D:
#2469 [20:29] <SirLittle> It's my mother's Gaming Computer
#2470 [20:30] <SirLittle> My computer doesn't work well.
#2471 [20:30] <SirLittle> So I'm pretty sure that that's out of the statement.
#2472 [20:30] <xales> Try it, if it doesn't work, remove it?
#2473 [20:30] <SirLittle> *Sigh*
#2474 [20:30] <SirLittle> I'm just.....not gonna.
#2475 [20:31] <xales> Nothing else to be done then
#2476 [20:31] <SirLittle> D:
#2477 [20:31] <bokaholic> Ask your mother if it's ok?
#2478 [20:32] <SirLittle> Meh.
#2479 [20:32] <SirLittle> I have to go anyways.
#2480 [20:32] <SirLittle> Dinner time.
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#2482 [20:33] <bokaholic> Kids are weird.
#2483 [20:34] <bokaholic> They also wig out easier than my generation. :I
#2484 [20:34] <xales> :|
#2485 [20:36] <aetherian> hey
#2486 [20:43] <aetherian> hey hey hey
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#2488 [20:53] <Rev> Hello
#2489 [20:53] <xales> Hi
#2490 [20:53] <Rev> Im hopping i can get some help with the openGL issue, ive looked at the forums
#2491 [20:54] <Rev> Ive tried the updating graphics, cards rather old, a 1XXX ATI
#2492 [20:54] <xales> If it doesn't work, even with the latest drivers, then the card doesn't support it
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#2494 [20:54] <Rev> any way what so ever to hop around that?
#2495 [20:55] <lemon-rev> new vid card :)
#2496 [20:55] <xales> sadly, no. You could try playing in the browser, but even if that works, don't expect a playable framerate
#2497 [20:55] <Rev> eh, love to buy the person a new comp, but thats not happening
#2498 [20:55] <Rev> hmm
#2499 [20:56] <Rev> Alright
#2500 [21:01] <lemon-rev> ha first time i seen mob with 2 digits instead of 4
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#2502 [21:03] <Rev> thanks for the help
#2503 [21:03] <Rev> bye!
#2504 [21:03] <VoxelHead> I like bye.
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#2509 [21:09] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
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#2511 [21:14] <OODavo> !check gigahard.mine.nu
#2512 [21:14] <mib_yoy512> i wanna join a server
#2513 [21:14] <xales> okay?
#2514 [21:14] <mib_yoy512> whos hosting one
#2515 [21:14] <xales> ??> mib_yoy512 smp/servers
#2516 [21:14] <VoxelHead> mib_yoy512: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2517 [21:14] <VoxelHead> mib_yoy512: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2518 [21:14] <OODavo> I just posted the address of one. :P
#2519 [21:14] <OODavo> Not a very good one, though.
#2520 [21:14] <mib_yoy512> how do i see that
#2521 [21:14] <LoRDTrevor> voxel maybe he wants a private server
#2522 [21:15] <mib_yoy512> as long as i can play with other ppl
#2523 [21:15] <mib_yoy512> idc
#2524 [21:15] <xales> mib_yoy512: click the links, find a server you want to play on, play on it. It's not difficult
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#2527 [21:23] <bokaholic> All right. Let's try this again.
#2528 [21:23] <bokaholic> Dammit.
#2529 [21:23] * bokaholic facedesks.
#2529 [21:23] <cliff101> I have server I need minecraft partners knowledge
#2530 [21:24] <xales> cliff101: what?
#2531 [21:24] <cliff101> i need a partner to create a server
#2532 [21:24] <xales> try asking on the forum
#2533 [21:24] <cliff101> imean partner to modify
#2534 [21:24] <bokaholic> lemon-rev: I'm doomed.
#2535 [21:25] <bokaholic> cliff101: At least you can get your server up.
#2536 [21:25] <cliff101> yeah my server is up
#2537 [21:25] <cliff101> but i need some modifications
#2538 [21:26] <xales> Try Bukkit. Look on their forum
#2539 [21:26] <bokaholic> What server softwear are you using?
#2540 [21:26] <cliff101> already did
#2541 [21:26] <cliff101> but some of the plugins i need didnt worked for me
#2542 [21:26] <cliff101> like NoDrop deosnt worked
#2543 [21:27] <xales> we can't help with that
#2544 [21:27] <xales> ask #bukkit
#2545 [21:27] <cliff101> ok
#2546 [21:29] <bokaholic> Failed to connect to the server. Connection timed out: Connect
#2547 [21:29] <bokaholic> Over and over.
#2548 [21:29] <xales> Are you running the server?
#2549 [21:29] <xales> What IP are you trying to connect to?
#2550 [21:30] <bokaholic> Yes. The server is up. The ports for forwarded. External IP is just not connection.
#2551 [21:30] <bokaholic> It connected once. I went to work and returned how to it telling me it timed out. Been working at this for 2 days.
#2552 [21:30] <bokaholic> There's nothing left to try and fix. I'm mind boggled.
#2553 [21:30] <xales> Are you sure that the external IP is correct? They tend to change on residential connections
#2554 [21:30] * bokaholic sobs into her hands. x) Sob sob sob.
#2554 [21:31] <xales> Your internal IP may also have changed
#2555 [21:31] <bokaholic> Went to seemyip.com
#2556 [21:31] <bokaholic> Checked cmd>ipconfig many times.
#2557 [21:31] <bokaholic> "Every reboot.
#2558 [21:31] <bokaholic> -"
#2559 [21:31] <xales> Is the server running right now?
#2560 [21:31] * bokaholic nods.
#2560 [21:31] <xales> !check ip68-110-17-105.om.om.cox.net
#2561 [21:32] <xales> Ok. First, did you put an IP in the server.properties file
#2562 [21:32] <bokaholic> Hmmm. Let me look.
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#2564 [21:33] <LoRDTrevor> bokaholic: did you try restarting the server jar?
#2565 [21:33] <bokaholic> I'm not so sure I know how. :o
#2566 [21:34] <xales> bokaholic: is there an IP in the server.properties file?
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#2568 [21:35] <bokaholic> No there wasn't.
#2569 [21:35] <LoRDTrevor> bokaholic: turn off the server and turn it back on
#2570 [21:35] <LoRDTrevor> first thing you do
#2571 [21:37] <bokaholic> I see a 'server' but not 'server.properties'. DO I just edit the one I see?
#2572 [21:38] <bokaholic> And for 'server-ip=' I just add the one IP i get from seemyip.com, yus?
#2573 [21:39] <xales> no, there should not be an IP listed in there
#2574 [21:39] <xales> if there is, then it will not work
#2575 [21:39] <bokaholic> OK.
#2576 [21:40] <bokaholic> Hmmm
#2577 [21:41] <xales> You are on a home connection, correct?
#2578 [21:41] <bokaholic> Yessir.
#2579 [21:41] <xales> And it is cable/DSL?
#2580 [21:42] <bokaholic> Cable.
#2581 [21:42] <xales> Is your computer on wifi?
#2582 [21:43] <bokaholic> Yes. The laptop I plan on using for a server is on wifi.
#2583 [21:43] <xales> Is the wireless router a seperate device, or is there only one?
#2584 [21:44] <bokaholic> What do you mean? :o The router is a linksys router. So seperate device.
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#2586 [21:45] <xales> So, your computer is connected via wireless to a Linksys router?
#2587 [21:45] <bokaholic> Yessir.
#2588 [21:45] <Nope> Quick question, has the nightly build thing been implemented yet?
#2589 [21:45] <xales> Nope: Not yet
#2590 [21:45] <Nope> kthxbai
#2591 [21:45] <xales> bokaholic: what is the Linksys router connected to?
#2592 [21:45] <bokaholic> A cable modem.
#2593 [21:46] <xales> And the cable modem is connected only to the wall (coaxial connection, the "cable" cable), and the Linksys router?
#2594 [21:47] <bokaholic> Yep. We don't have cable TV. Just Internet. Wall>CableModem>Router>Computers.
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#2596 [21:48] <xales> Ok
#2597 [21:48] <xales> Login to the Linksys router like you did to port forward, and click Status
#2598 [21:48] <xales> It will give you, an IP address for the router itself
#2599 [21:48] <xales> what address is it?
#2600 [21:48] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go T_T
#2601 [21:49] <bokaholic> Ip Adress, or defult Gateway or DNS 1/2/3?
#2602 [21:49] <xales> IP Address
#2603 [21:49] <bokaholic> 68.110.17.105
#2604 [21:49] <xales> And that is the IP you have been trying?
#2605 [21:49] <bokaholic> Yessir.
#2606 [21:50] <xales> Do you know how to take a screenshot?
#2607 [21:50] <bokaholic> Yepper. :)
#2608 [21:50] <xales> Can you take a screenshot of the port forward page?
#2609 [21:50] <bokaholic> Yep. One moment.
#2610 [21:52] <bokaholic> xales: http://eatmycreativegenius.org/PortInfo.jpg
#2611 [21:53] <xales> hmm, that's correct
#2612 [21:53] <xales> and just to confirm, you aren't running any firewall on your computer, right?
#2613 [21:54] <bokaholic> nO. i HAVE UNINSTALLED MY AVAST AND TURNED OFF MY WINDOWS FIREWALL.
#2614 [21:54] <bokaholic> oops.
#2615 [21:54] <bokaholic> Sorry about yelling. ;.;
#2616 [21:54] <xales> no problem...hmm
#2617 [21:54] <xales> can you copy the contents of the server/server.properties file and pastebin it? http://pastebin.com/
#2618 [21:56] <bokaholic> http://pastebin.com/xuqgtnxC
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#2620 [21:57] <xales> hmm
#2621 [21:57] <xales> and in the server console window..it doesn't have any errors or anything?
#2622 [21:59] <bokaholic> Nope. Stars, loads, starts on port, prepares and is done awaiting for joiners.
#2623 [21:59] <bokaholic> It's mind boggling.
#2624 [21:59] <bokaholic> >.<;
#2625 [21:59] <bokaholic> When I try to connect nothing shows up on the server window as me attempting or anything.
#2626 [22:00] <xales> Can you connect via 'localhost'?
#2627 [22:00] <bokaholic> Which when it did work that once a couple days ago. It did have that info.
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#2629 [22:00] <bokaholic> Failed to connect to the server. Connection refused: connect
#2630 [22:00] <bokaholic> For localhost
#2631 [22:01] <xales> that's really weird
#2632 [22:02] <bokaholic> Should I try to comepletly delete minecraft (appdata and all) and try it all again?
#2633 [22:02] <bokaholic> I just dunno what to even suggest. :o
#2634 [22:02] * bokaholic laughs
#2634 [22:03] <bokaholic> I'm to believe that I'm just cursed when it comes to anything electronic running sloothly.
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#2642 [22:13] <bokaholic> Ok I have an update.
#2643 [22:13] <bokaholic> I can connect to localhost on the laptop. (the computer going to be server)
#2644 [22:14] <xales> Oh, I was under the impression that the computer you were on currently was going to have the server on it
#2645 [22:14] <bokaholic> No. I'm on my PC talking to you. Want the server on a computer I wont be really doing much on so it can run the world more smoothly.
#2646 [22:15] <xales> And just to make sure, the IP you port forwarded to is that of the computer going to run the server, not your PC, right?
#2647 [22:15] <Oerg866> bokaholic: Chances are that a secondary PC will probably run worse than your main machine, if you regularly upgrade your main machine
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#2649 [22:16] <Oerg866> I found that my Athlon 2GHz did a worse job than my main PC @ regular use (like, ~90 processes and 2GB of RAM usage)
#2650 [22:16] <bokaholic> My secondary computer has recently been more used than my desktop. I just have a better graphics card in my desktop..
#2651 [22:17] <Oerg866> Ah
#2652 [22:17] <xales> bokaholic: the IP you forwarded it to is of your laptop, right?
#2653 [22:17] <bokaholic> Yep. The .102 is laptop. My desktop is .103
#2654 [22:18] <Oerg866> Linksys Router?
#2655 [22:18] <bokaholic> I tried to connect to the world using the IP. Canot connect. Only worked with 'localhost'.
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#2657 [22:19] <Oerg866> bokaholic: What operating system are you using=?
#2658 [22:19] <Oerg866> if you're on XP: Start -> Control panel -> Windows Firewall -> Inactive -> Apply -> OK -> Try again
#2659 [22:19] <bokaholic> For which? Laptop or Desktop..? :D
#2660 [22:20] <Oerg866> Both
#2661 [22:20] <bokaholic> Windows 7 on the laptop.
#2662 [22:20] <bokaholic> Vista on Desktop
#2663 [22:20] <Oerg866> Ugh :D
#2664 [22:20] <Oerg866> Disable the firewall
#2665 [22:20] <bokaholic> Is already.
#2666 [22:20] <Oerg866> Humm
#2667 [22:20] <Oerg866> Weird
#2668 [22:20] <Oerg866> Is your router a Linksys brand?
#2669 [22:20] <bokaholic> Yeah.. x.x I'm about to chuck this laptop out the screendoor.
#2670 [22:21] <bokaholic> Yes.
#2671 [22:21] <Oerg866> There's your problem :P My buddy's linksys really didn't like Minecraft in its network :p
#2672 [22:21] <xales> bokaholic: Click "Security" on the router, and untick all the boxes
#2673 [22:21] <Oerg866> Yes, and also enable DMZ to that router
#2674 [22:21] <Oerg866> (Just for a test, don't do that permanently if you care about your server not being hacked :P...)
#2675 [22:22] <SkiingPenguins> my linksys works fine with minecraft btw
#2676 [22:23] <bokaholic> D8
#2677 [22:23] <bokaholic> Scary
#2678 [22:23] <bokaholic> But I guess I'll try it.. :I
#2679 [22:25] <bokaholic> Still timing out.
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#2681 [22:26] <xales> See what Kealper thinks, I have no idea :|
#2682 [22:27] <bokaholic> I just need to make a friend who has a server and will host a server for me on it 24/7 and allow me to be in control.
#2683 [22:27] <Kealper> rawr
#2684 [22:27] <bokaholic> Hahaha.
#2685 [22:27] * bokaholic bands her head on her laptop.
#2685 [22:27] <bokaholic> *bangs*
#2686 [22:27] <Kealper> females on the internet? blasphemy.
#2687 [22:28] <bokaholic> Odear.
#2688 [22:28] <bokaholic> Not in 2011, man.
#2689 [22:28] <bokaholic> We are everywhere!
#2690 [22:28] <Kealper> uhh....what's a quick rundown of your issue?
#2691 [22:28] <Kealper> NOWAI!!
#2692 [22:28] <bokaholic> But I'm sure everyone else's servers working FINE! >:T
#2693 [22:28] <bokaholic> Issue..
#2694 [22:28] <bokaholic> Server timing out. Not allowing anyone to connect.
#2695 [22:29] <bokaholic> Everything is correct. xales made sure of it.
#2696 [22:29] <bokaholic> We are boggled.
#2697 [22:29] <Kealper> is your router and your modem two separate boxes?
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#2699 [22:29] <bokaholic> Yessir.
#2700 [22:29] <Kealper> is anyone else using your internet right now? lol
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#2702 [22:30] <D3adly> Need a hand with some hamachi server jazz. I've got the IP right for my friend, but they still can't connect, they keep getting the time out error.
#2703 [22:30] <bokaholic> Not as far as I know.. I have a rediculous password. So I don't suspect anyone will just be trotting on my internet.
#2704 [22:30] <Kealper> bokaholic: i actually meant anyone that you know of lol
#2705 [22:30] <bokaholic> I cracked a WEP last week to see how hard it was. I don't think an average person can or even would bother.
#2706 [22:30] <bokaholic> oh!
#2707 [22:30] <bokaholic> OH!
#2708 [22:30] <SevFTW> Guys I need help with my Server, I got a new modem/router recently, with faster speeds, and my settings changed, including my IP address. I set up port forwarding, but it still isn't working. It works locally, but not over the internet.
#2709 [22:30] <VoxelHead> oh
#2710 [22:31] <Kealper> if no, try unplugging your computer from the router and plugging it directly into the modem, to bypass the router
#2711 [22:31] <VoxelHead> I like them ^_^
#2712 [22:31] <Kealper> SevFTW: you're sure everything is set up right?
#2713 [22:31] <VoxelHead> Omg no.
#2714 [22:31] <bokaholic> M'kay. My server is going to be my extra laptop. I'm on my desktop talking to you. So if I do that I will go away.
#2715 [22:31] <Kealper> D3adly: my suggestion is to not use Hamachi :/
#2716 [22:31] <SevFTW> I can send you pictures on imgur if you want.
#2717 [22:31] <D3adly> I've always used hamachi and it's always worked.
#2718 [22:32] <Kealper> bokaholic: oh....
#2719 [22:32] <Kealper> D3adly: did you touch anything in server.properties?
#2720 [22:32] <Kealper> SevFTW: please
#2721 [22:32] <D3adly> Nope. Not a thing.
#2722 [22:32] <bokaholic> Hehe. I do need to update my router.. It's damn old. But regardless... Grrr.
#2723 [22:33] <Kealper> bokaholic: you can access it when using the server's internal ip, right?
#2724 [22:33] <bokaholic> I can get onto the server using 'localhost'. Not the IP.
#2725 [22:33] <SevFTW> Kealper: I'm uploading them now.
#2726 [22:33] <Kealper> D3adly: hmm...same question as i asked bokaholic, but try using the ip 127.0.0.1
#2727 [22:34] <SevFTW> http://imgur.com/IiHSp
#2728 [22:34] <D3adly> I get in to that IP fine, I'll see if my friend can.
#2729 [22:35] <D3adly> Nope, they're getting Connection Refused
#2730 [22:35] <Kealper> SevFTW: you can access the server if you use 192.168.0.50?
#2731 [22:35] <VoxelHead> Orange.
#2732 [22:35] <SevFTW> Correct.
#2733 [22:35] <Kealper> D3adly: you are hosting the server on the same machine as you are playing, right?
#2734 [22:35] <SevFTW> I'm fixing it up right now.
#2735 [22:35] <D3adly> Yes.
#2736 [22:35] <Kealper> D3adly: and the server was running when you tried?
#2737 [22:36] <D3adly> Yuppers.
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#2739 [22:36] <Kealper> D3adly: open server.properties in any text editor, make sure server-ip is blank
#2740 [22:36] <D3adly> It is.
#2741 [22:36] <Kealper> D3adly: disable any firewalls you have then, and try again
#2742 [22:37] <DiZ> hey how do you make a sever world for survival
#2743 [22:37] <Kealper> bokaholic: sorry, didn't see your last message lol....
#2744 [22:37] <bokaholic> Not a problem :)
#2745 [22:37] <Kealper> bokaholic: what ip did you try that failed? was it a 192.168 one?
#2746 [22:38] <Kealper> DiZ: download the server software, place it in a folder that you want to use, and run it
#2747 [22:38] <bokaholic> No. The one I get from seemyip.com
#2748 [22:38] <SevFTW> Kealper?
#2749 [22:39] <Kealper> bokaholic: try the one that you have set in your router's forwarding stuff
#2750 [22:39] <DiZ> sorry to sound stupid but exactly how do i do that i mean i have the software
#2751 [22:39] <bokaholic> On the laptop that is running the server?
#2752 [22:39] <Kealper> SevFTW: oh...you said you were fixing something lol
#2753 [22:39] <xales> bokaholic: No, try it from your desktop
#2754 [22:40] <SevFTW> Sorry :P I finished someone just built a stupid mob trap using spawners and the pigs were everywhere.
#2755 [22:40] <bokaholic> Still timing out. :/
#2756 [22:40] <xales> bokaholic: Are you trying the 192.168 IP?
#2757 [22:40] <bokaholic> Yessir
#2758 [22:41] <xales> that's..interesting
#2759 [22:42] <bokaholic> My brain in frazzled.
#2760 [22:42] <Kealper> my brain hurts....too many people having router issues
#2761 [22:42] <xales> bokaholic: it looks like a setting on your router might be messed up, or something on the laptop isn't functioning properly
#2762 [22:43] <SevFTW> Kealper, I fixed it.
#2763 [22:43] <SevFTW> Thanks anyway :DD
#2764 [22:43] <bokaholic> I thought so too.. I had the server set up on my desktop when it worked for that half-a-day. But when I got home at night after job-time it started timing out. So I actually can't get it to work on 2 desktops, a mac mini or my laptop.
#2765 [22:44] <Kealper> SevFTW: grats, because you broke my brain >.>
#2766 [22:44] <bokaholic> SO I think it has to be router. o.o
#2767 [22:44] <VoxelHead> can i ask the audience?
#2768 [22:44] <bokaholic> HAS to be.
#2769 [22:44] <Kealper> too many people asking at once
#2770 [22:44] <Kealper> vox, shut up
#2771 [22:44] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#2771 [22:44] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
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#2773 [22:44] <xales> bokaholic: You could try factory-defaulting it
#2774 [22:44] <bokaholic> I might try that.
#2775 [22:44] <bokaholic> I will BRB. I'm going for a short drive with loud music to relax my soul.
#2776 [22:44] <SkiingPenguins> you can save your preferences before that i believe
#2777 [22:44] <bokaholic> |D
#2778 [22:44] <xales> Kealper, AuBot isn't kicking
#2779 [22:45] <Kealper> eh? it says it is
#2780 [22:45] <xales> nope
#2781 [22:45] <xales> now it is
#2782 [22:45] <xales> nevermind
#2783 [22:46] <SevFTW> I'm sorry Kealper! Here have some virtual advil: http://dealcetera.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/advil-canada.jpg
#2784 [22:46] <Kealper> lol
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#2787 [22:47] <killking72> ok so if minecraft constantly crashes what would i have to do to start on the road to fixing it
#2788 [22:48] <xales> Can you describe the crash? When does it occur?
#2789 [22:48] <killking72> always
#2790 [22:48] <killking72> single player and on my server
#2791 [22:48] <xales> "always" is not helpful
#2792 [22:48] <xales> Does it happen when while you are playing?
#2793 [22:48] <killking72> it produces an error report most of the time
#2794 [22:48] <xales> when you open your inventory?
#2795 [22:48] <killking72> yes
#2796 [22:48] <killking72> when i'm playing
#2797 [22:48] <killking72> i'll just be running around and boom
#2798 [22:48] <xales> can you copy the error report to pastebin? http://pastebin.com/
#2799 [22:49] <killking72> or when i'm on gargamel it will just go *fart noise*
#2800 [22:49] <xales> copy it to pastebin, click submit, and give us the URL
#2801 [22:50] <killking72> http://pastebin.com/gh87mjk5
#2802 [22:50] <xales> How much RAM does your computer have?
#2803 [22:51] <killking72> i think about 4gb and 1gb on my video card
#2804 [22:51] <xales> First of all, update Java
#2805 [22:51] <xales> That might be the entire problem, but I'm not sure
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#2807 [22:52] <killking72> i have the latest version
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#2809 [22:53] <xales> duh, right. I read the wrong thing
#2810 [22:53] <xales> ??> killking72 win/dxdiag
#2811 [22:53] <VoxelHead> killking72: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2812 [22:53] <VoxelHead> killking72: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2813 [22:54] <killking72> http://pastebin.com/LF5v1wZD
#2814 [22:55] <xales> killking72: any mods or texture packs?
#2815 [22:55] <killking72> nope
#2816 [22:56] <xales> I don't think this will work, but...doesn't hurt to try
#2817 [22:56] <xales> ??> killking72 win/reinst
#2818 [22:56] <VoxelHead> killking72: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2819 [22:56] <VoxelHead> killking72: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2820 [22:56] <killking72> ugh
#2821 [22:57] <killking72> i remember doing that last time and the moment i'm like "oh look at that it hasnt crashed in a while" *minecraft crashes*
#2822 [22:57] <killking72> ok done
#2823 [22:58] <xales> ok, but before you try it, try disabling smooth lighting and putting the render distance on "Short"
#2824 [22:58] <killking72> ok it is
#2825 [23:00] <killking72> now what?
#2826 [23:02] <xales> see if it works
#2827 [23:02] <killking72> well it is
#2828 [23:02] <killking72> and it works when maxed out
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