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#2 [00:01] <Zoroark> VoxelHead, fire everything at me
#3 [00:01] * VoxelHead swoops in on me, decloaking on the way...
#3 [00:01] * VoxelHead fires the Universe Gun(tm) at me
#3 [00:01] * VoxelHead recloaks
#3 [00:01] <Zoroark> You're cloaked
#4 [00:01] <Zoroark> fu
#5 [00:01] <Zoroark> Voxel, decloak
#6 [00:01] * VoxelHead shifts back into view
#6 [00:04] <bokaholic> vworp vworp vworp~
#7 [00:18] <aetherian> vox, cloak
#8 [00:18] * VoxelHead shimmers and disappears from view...
#8 [00:19] <Bob_Sack> VoxelHead, fire everything at VoxelHead
#9 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Don't be so silly. Sir.
#10 [00:19] <aetherian> haha
#11 [00:19] <Bob_Sack> lame
#12 [00:19] <aetherian> vox, fire everything at himself
#13 [00:19] * VoxelHead swoops in on himself, decloaking on the way...
#13 [00:19] * VoxelHead shoots a little stick with a flag reading 'BANG' on it out from the forward torpedo launchers
#13 [00:19] * VoxelHead recloaks
#13 [00:19] <aetherian> :)
#14 [00:19] <VoxelHead> ;)
#15 [00:34] <aetherian> soo
#16 [00:34] <aetherian> 'sup, vox
#17 [00:36] <aetherian> wait
#18 [00:36] <aetherian> ping timeout, 195 seconds?
#19 [00:36] <aetherian> something is very, very wrong here
#20 [00:36] <aetherian> gasp
#21 [00:36] <aetherian> how did I not notice it
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#24 [00:47] <Kealper> AuBot` :<
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#26 [00:52] <aetherian> Kealper: what now?
#27 [00:52] * aetherian comforts aubot
#27 [00:53] <aetherian> wait, whoa
#28 [00:53] <aetherian> watch where you're sticking that `
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#32 [01:26] <[8]Bit> .
#33 [01:27] <[8]Bit> So, any modders around?
#34 [01:34] <Chr|s> aetherian: making friends eh?
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#36 [01:45] <Katzuyu> Hello everyone, i have a minor question. Would it be possible to run a mc smp for 6-8 players with I7 3.2Ghz 12DDr2 100mbit up. and have it run smoothly?
#37 [01:47] <Thoatt> Nope, you need at least 7ghz, 16 core, 32gb ddr4, 10gbit, and that will only handle 2-3 players.
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#39 [01:49] <Katzuyu> Thoatt, thanks for the serious question when i asked a serious questiong.. since i ask cuz i had a server months ago, and then it only held about 3-4 players... due to "not so optimal" code.
#40 [01:49] <Katzuyu> Woundering if it's been improved before i even bother trying..
#41 [01:50] <Thoatt> You had that server and you couldn't run smoothly?
#42 [01:50] <Katzuyu> yes.
#43 [01:50] <Katzuyu> few months ago
#44 [01:50] <Katzuyu> with more then 4 players it lagged some.
#45 [01:50] <cliff101> it crash?
#46 [01:50] <Katzuyu> nop
#47 [01:50] <aetherian> Chr|s: hurr de hurr hurr
#48 [01:51] <Chr|s> :)
#49 [01:51] <VoxelHead> =)
#50 [01:51] <Thoatt> Then I'm guessing that perhaps it was a java issue you had.. because the server has always been fine for me with 1/2 those specs and up to 6 players.
#51 [01:51] <Katzuyu> hm, mby thats it then :S
#52 [01:52] <Thoatt> But yeah, that server /should/ work fine.
#53 [01:53] <Thoatt> anywho... back to me being afk.
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#55 [02:02] <VoxelHead> mmm Wahrheit
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#72 [03:36] <aetherian> aauughhh
#73 [03:36] <aetherian> why do I do this to myself...
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#75 [03:39] <BarryCarlyon> becuase you are silly aetherian
#76 [03:40] <aetherian> BarryCarlyon: I think a blooming idiot may be a better word
#77 [03:40] <BarryCarlyon> Well I wasn't going to be that harsh!
#78 [03:40] <aetherian> that's why I was.
#79 [03:41] <aetherian> 12:41 in the morning, time to get cracking on this paper that I need to have mostly done by... today
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#85 [03:57] <aetherian> ooohhh
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#87 [04:03] <bread> HERP
#88 [04:05] <aetherian> though I have to say
#89 [04:05] <aetherian> minecraft has not been the most suck-in addicting game I have ever played
#90 [04:05] <aetherian> that title still goes to N game. haven't played that game in ages.
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#92 [04:06] <bubblefish4> greyvulpine are you there?
#93 [04:06] <aetherian> bubblefish4: he's never here when you need him
#94 [04:06] <aetherian> what do you need?
#95 [04:06] <bubblefish4> ship
#96 [04:06] <bubblefish4> okay
#97 [04:07] <aetherian> ship?
#98 [04:07] <bubblefish4> i made the batch file he told me too make to run minecraft
#99 [04:07] <aetherian> and it doesn't work?
#100 [04:07] <bubblefish4> it worked but i deleted minecraft in the appsdata
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#102 [04:07] <bubblefish4> how do i make the batch file again?
#103 [04:08] * aetherian rages
#103 [04:08] <aetherian> backups, you troglodyte
#104 [04:08] <bubblefish4> sorry
#105 [04:08] <bubblefish4> okay
#106 [04:08] <aetherian> so you deleted the .bat?
#107 [04:08] <bubblefish4> but how
#108 [04:08] <bubblefish4> no
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#110 [04:08] <bubblefish4> the actual app data folder
#111 [04:08] <aetherian> then what the bloody hell is wrong with the bat
#112 [04:08] <aetherian> just run it >.>
#113 [04:09] <bubblefish4> it won't work
#114 [04:10] <bubblefish4> what do i -put in the bat
#115 [04:10] <aetherian> wait... you can open a .bat in notepad/etc, right?
#116 [04:10] <aetherian> if so, then do so
#117 [04:10] <bubblefish4> ?
#118 [04:10] <bubblefish4> what after that?
#119 [04:11] <aetherian> pastebin the contents, if you would
#120 [04:11] <bubblefish4> what are the contents
#121 [04:11] <bubblefish4> ?
#122 [04:11] <aetherian> eurgh
#123 [04:11] <aetherian> gish
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#125 [04:12] <aetherian> okay, it's too late for me to deal with that
#126 [04:12] <aetherian> hey GreyVulpine, I think you have a customer
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#129 [04:17] <bubblefish4> someone help
#130 [04:17] <bubblefish4> i get this error report:
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#132 [04:17] <aetherian> uh oh
#133 [04:18] <bubblefish4> http://mibpaste.com/NTZFVe
#134 [04:18] <bubblefish4> ^ error report
#135 [04:18] <bubblefish4> when trying to run it off line
#136 [04:19] <bubblefish4> how can i run i offline
#137 [04:19] <bubblefish4> *it
#138 [04:19] <aetherian> ooh ooh
#139 [04:19] <aetherian> I may know
#140 [04:19] <aetherian> how about you, I don't know, update the video car drivers?
#141 [04:19] <bubblefish4> k how?
#142 [04:19] <aetherian> not to mention
#143 [04:20] <bubblefish4> >:(
#144 [04:20] <aetherian> it's not 1.3_01 anymore I thought?
#145 [04:20] <bubblefish4> >:l
#146 [04:20] <aetherian> >:|
#147 [04:20] <bubblefish4> grey vulpine got me to make a batch file it worked
#148 [04:20] <aetherian> oho
#149 [04:20] <bubblefish4> without any problems
#150 [04:20] <aetherian> and what did you do with said batch
#151 [04:21] <bubblefish4> but i started installin mods
#152 [04:21] <aetherian> protip: don't
#153 [04:21] <bubblefish4> okay i won't
#154 [04:21] <bubblefish4> but can you tell me how to do it again?
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#156 [04:22] <aetherian> well, do you still have the .bat?
#157 [04:22] <bubblefish4> yes
#158 [04:22] <aetherian> then do what I told you to do with it
#159 [04:22] <bubblefish4> what do i put in the bat!
#160 [04:23] <aetherian> AUGH
#161 [04:23] * aetherian QBERT's
#161 [04:23] <bubblefish4> just tell me
#162 [04:23] <aetherian> no.
#163 [04:23] <aetherian> you do what I told you to
#164 [04:24] <aetherian> he made you a .bat, do you still have that .bat?
#165 [04:24] <bubblefish4> what do i fing put in the bat the contents
#166 [04:24] <bubblefish4> i do
#167 [04:24] <bubblefish4> and when I USE IT IT DOES NOT WORK!!!!!!
#168 [04:24] <Thoatt> jeez aetherian give him a break...
#169 [04:24] <Thoatt> bubblefish4:
#170 [04:25] <Thoatt> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#171 [04:25] <bubblefish4> thank you
#172 [04:25] <aetherian> Thoatt: I wanted him to open a file in notepad .-.
#173 [04:25] <aetherian> that's not harsh.
#174 [04:25] <bubblefish4> i did
#175 [04:25] <bubblefish4> i asked what i put in it
#176 [04:25] <aetherian> and I asked you to pastebin it
#177 [04:25] <Thoatt> He told you he needed to know what to put in the .bat file lol
#178 [04:26] <aetherian> Thoatt: I wanted to know what was already in the .bat
#179 [04:26] <aetherian> then potentially I could guess at what needed to be changed, as it "wasn't working"
#180 [04:26] <bubblefish4> Thoatt it did not work
#181 [04:26] <aetherian> ^no surprise
#182 [04:27] <bubblefish4> i give up................
#183 [04:27] * bubblefish4 is sad
#183 [04:27] <Thoatt> bubblefish4:
#184 [04:27] <Thoatt> I read wrong...
#185 [04:27] <Thoatt> Thought you meant the server...
#186 [04:28] <bubblefish4> oh no i meant the actual game
#187 [04:28] <bubblefish4> offline
#188 [04:28] <aetherian> so, eh, what was in the .bat he told you to make that doesn't work...?
#189 [04:28] <bubblefish4> do you know what i put in it?
#190 [04:28] * aetherian sobs
#190 [04:28] <aetherian> I want to know what you put in it
#191 [04:28] <aetherian> :|
#192 [04:28] <Thoatt> to run in offline?
#193 [04:28] <Thoatt> Why?
#194 [04:29] <bubblefish4> because i don't like playing onl.ine i have only 3gb a month
#195 [04:29] <bubblefish4> *online
#196 [04:29] <aetherian> dialup too?
#197 [04:29] <Thoatt> the bandwidth used to log into minecraft is neglegible.
#198 [04:30] <bubblefish4> what do i put in the batch?
#199 [04:30] <bubblefish4> to make it run offline
#200 [04:30] <aetherian> Thoatt: kill me please :)
#201 [04:30] <Thoatt> bubblefish4: afaik, there is no command line option to do so. I could be wrong though.
#202 [04:31] <aetherian> really though, are you running like dialup?
#203 [04:32] <bubblefish4> yep
#204 [04:32] * bubblefish4 smashes head on table
#204 [04:33] <Thoatt> You are aware that you do not have to be online to play correct?
#205 [04:33] <bubblefish4> ? what do you mean
#206 [04:33] <Thoatt> start up mc, try logging in, it will say try again/play offline
#207 [04:33] <Thoatt> click offline
#208 [04:34] <bubblefish4> i did and i got the error report
#209 [04:34] <Thoatt> alternatively, you can just type in an incorrect password and it will do the same.
#210 [04:34] <bubblefish4> http://mibpaste.com/NTZFVe
#211 [04:34] <Thoatt> The wrong videocard drvier error report?
#212 [04:34] <bubblefish4> ^m error report
#213 [04:34] <bubblefish4> no!
#214 [04:34] <Thoatt> Update your videocard drivers
#215 [04:34] <bubblefish4> this is bloody annyoing
#216 [04:34] <Thoatt> brah...
#217 [04:34] <bubblefish4> i have
#218 [04:34] <Thoatt> look at the top of that damned report.
#219 [04:35] <bubblefish4> greyvulpine
#220 [04:35] <aetherian> hehehehehhehehehehheheheheh
#221 [04:35] <bubblefish4> made me
#222 [04:35] <Thoatt> "Bad video card drivers!"
#223 [04:35] <bubblefish4> the
#224 [04:35] <bubblefish4> batch file to help and it worked
#225 [04:35] <aetherian> he says this is bloody annoying
#226 [04:35] <aetherian> heheheh
#227 [04:35] <bubblefish4> it's not the vid driver
#228 [04:35] <aetherian> I need to go eat some iron
#229 [04:35] <aetherian> it'd be less iron...y
#230 [04:36] <Thoatt> Well, unless you can magically call the amazing .bat wizard that is, GreyVulpine, that's the only help we can give.
#231 [04:36] <aetherian> no
#232 [04:36] <aetherian> I tried to give good help
#233 [04:36] <Thoatt> I would HIGHLY doubt that a command line parameter can fix a crash like that.
#234 [04:36] <bubblefish4> greyvulpine i need help azre you there?
#235 [04:36] <aetherian> but he can't open a bloody file and paste the contents, apparently
#236 [04:36] <bubblefish4> fck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#237 [04:36] <Thoatt> bubblefish4:
#238 [04:36] <Thoatt> Listen
#239 [04:36] <Thoatt> You listening?
#240 [04:37] <bubblefish4> yes
#241 [04:37] <aetherian> greys last message was unknown
#242 [04:37] <aetherian> given how long I've gone without DCing
#243 [04:37] <aetherian> that's a long time
#244 [04:37] <Thoatt> Do you still have the batch file that GreyVulpine had you make?
#245 [04:37] <bubblefish4> yes
#246 [04:37] <aetherian> oboy, here we go again
#247 [04:37] <Thoatt> right click on it -> edit
#248 [04:37] <aetherian> I tried this twice >.>
#249 [04:37] <bubblefish4> yep
#250 [04:37] <Thoatt> copy everything in the file, then put it on pastebin.
#251 [04:37] <Thoatt> do you understand how to do that?
#252 [04:38] <bubblefish4> yes
#253 [04:38] <Thoatt> ok good... do that please.
#254 [04:38] <bubblefish4> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#255 [04:38] <bubblefish4> ^there
#256 [04:38] <Thoatt> damnit... you saved what I told you...
#257 [04:38] <Thoatt> >.>
#258 [04:38] <Thoatt> wait for GreyVulpine
#259 [04:39] <Thoatt> Don't you people know not to listen to my advise yet? lol
#260 [04:39] <aetherian> heh
#261 [04:39] <bubblefish4> FUCK I DID!
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#263 [04:39] <bubblefish4> why the hell do htey call this a irc help channel!
#264 [04:39] <aetherian> I must say, in linux, it's useful to be able to just "cat filename | pastebinit" if you have that program
#265 [04:40] <bubblefish4> ?hmmmm i would like to know
#266 [04:40] <aetherian> bubblefish4: go away
#267 [04:40] <aetherian> please
#268 [04:40] <aetherian> if you don't want help, that is
#269 [04:40] <bubblefish4> i doooooo
#270 [04:40] <aetherian> we try to help you, yet you don't listen
#271 [04:40] <Thoatt> bubblefish4: ignore aetherian, he's pmsing or something lol
#272 [04:40] <bubblefish4> that's why i am asking you the question
#273 [04:40] <aetherian> aahhh
#274 [04:40] <bubblefish4> i am listening
#275 [04:40] <Thoatt> <3 aetherian :)
#276 [04:40] <aetherian> I need nutella.
#277 [04:41] <aetherian> a nice, heaping spoonful of it.
#278 [04:41] <Thoatt> omg nutella...
#279 [04:41] <aetherian> I'll be back.
#280 [04:41] <AG_Scott> aetherian, i have nutella
#281 [04:41] <Thoatt> bastards... I have none...
#282 [04:41] <AG_Scott> I have started using a spoon full to stir my coffee.
#283 [04:41] <bubblefish4> i hate this......................
#284 [04:41] <AG_Scott> it's delicious
#285 [04:41] <bubblefish4> not nutella................
#286 [04:42] <Thoatt> bubblefish4: what...
#287 [04:42] <aetherian> back
#288 [04:42] <aetherian> and I just had a heaping spoonful of it plain :)
#289 [04:42] <Thoatt> I feel.... a cat... on my legs...
#290 [04:42] <aetherian> it was good
#291 [04:43] <bubblefish4> i hate my life
#292 [04:43] <aetherian> I hate it too :)
#293 [04:43] <aetherian> hey, they tell me to agree with people seeking help
#294 [04:43] <Thoatt> bubblefish4: what... do... yiou... want... to.. know...
#295 [04:43] <aetherian> heh
#296 [04:43] <aetherian> yiou
#297 [04:44] <bubblefish4> i already told you
#298 [04:44] <aetherian> told me what
#299 [04:44] <Thoatt> There are no command line options that magically fix video card driver craashes...
#300 [04:44] <aetherian> oh by the by
#301 [04:44] <Thoatt> -a
#302 [04:44] <aetherian> I find it iron that after I call him a troglodyte for not backing up
#303 [04:44] <aetherian> he still didn't back up his .bat
#304 [04:44] <aetherian> :3
#305 [04:44] <Thoatt> loool
#306 [04:45] <bubblefish4> thanks for your help.................
#307 [04:45] <Thoatt> I don't know what you want from us...
#308 [04:45] <Thoatt> We are not wizards.
#309 [04:45] <Thoatt> http://i.imgur.com/z1jsZ.jpg
#310 [04:45] <aetherian> Thoatt: I am
#311 [04:46] <aetherian> an aetherial wizard
#312 [04:46] <aetherian> didn't'cha know?
#313 [04:46] <Thoatt> then tell us, oh magical aetherian, what is the command line option to fix video card drivers?
#314 [04:46] <aetherian> pfft, I'm not god
#315 [04:47] <aetherian> jeez
#316 [04:47] <Thoatt> lol
#317 [04:47] <bubblefish4> then how come grey did it?
#318 [04:47] <aetherian> uh
#319 [04:47] <bubblefish4> ghmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
#320 [04:47] <aetherian> he must be god?
#321 [04:47] <aetherian> hmm...
#322 [04:47] <aetherian> not right
#323 [04:47] <aetherian> or he's an evil god
#324 [04:47] <Thoatt> He is the almighty wizard.
#325 [04:47] <aetherian> is this greek mythology?
#326 [04:47] <aetherian> he's poseidon I think
#327 [04:47] <aetherian> heh
#328 [04:48] <bubblefish4> who?
#329 [04:48] <Thoatt> He is... Oinari!
#330 [04:48] <aetherian> uh no
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#332 [04:48] <aetherian> sides
#333 [04:48] * bubblefish4 cries
#333 [04:49] <Thoatt> bubblefish4: I hate to say this... but: http://i.imgur.com/p5zFs.gif
#334 [04:49] <aetherian> schadenfreude get!
#335 [04:49] <TOMBIGRED> hey guys i went down really deep to bedrock and i found diamond and redstone but when i go to mine it with my stone pick i dont get any dust/ore.... what is wrong?
#336 [04:49] <bubblefish4> work why won't you work
#337 [04:49] <aetherian> TOMBIGRED: you need an iron pick
#338 [04:50] <Thoatt> TOMBIGRED: You need to use at least an iron pick to mine diamond ore.
#339 [04:50] <aetherian> I just said that...
#340 [04:50] <bubblefish4> well he did as well
#341 [04:50] <Thoatt> No you didn't /clear
#342 [04:50] <TOMBIGRED> oh.... thanks guys i only just started playing yesterday.....
#343 [04:50] <aetherian> mmhmm
#344 [04:52] <aetherian> hey uh
#345 [04:52] <aetherian> dammit
#346 [04:52] <aetherian> I can't find my LART >.>
#347 [04:52] <bubblefish4> no help this was no help
#348 [04:52] <bubblefish4> now i lost all my save files
#349 [04:52] <Thoatt> bubblefish4: Wait for GreyVulpine
#350 [04:52] <aetherian> why the hell'd you do that
#351 [04:52] <Thoatt> That's all we can say.
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#353 [04:53] <Thoatt> aetherian: I've stopped trying to figure out... long ago.. lol
#354 [04:53] <bubblefish4> why the hell did you aetherian did your avice not work?
#355 [04:53] <aetherian> wait what
#356 [04:53] <aetherian> HURK
#357 [04:53] <aetherian> gr-
#358 [04:53] <aetherian> grammar...
#359 [04:53] <Thoatt> English better need you
#360 [04:54] <bubblefish4> oh f u
#361 [04:54] <aetherian> just say duck.
#362 [04:54] <bubblefish4> it's called a bloody typo!
#363 [04:54] <aetherian> no use saying "OH F U"
#364 [04:54] <aetherian> say "duck you man"
#365 [04:54] <Thoatt> Is that different than a normal typo?
#366 [04:54] <Thoatt> red or something?
#367 [04:54] <aetherian> Thoatt: oi
#368 [04:54] <Thoatt> aetherian: :P
#369 [04:54] <aetherian> don't you mess with english swears
#370 [04:54] <aetherian> I use those too
#371 [04:57] <bubblefish4> i my hate my life
#372 [04:58] <aetherian> I your hate your too life too
#373 [04:58] <Thoatt> It's not my trousers if he can't use his hoity toity clickity clack to get his point accross and someone uses a root-tooty point and shooty on his slappy ham.
#374 [05:00] <aetherian> jolly good show?
#375 [05:00] <bubblefish4> can you help me or not?
#376 [05:00] <Thoatt> indubidubly!
#377 [05:00] <Thoatt> (@aetherian)
#378 [05:00] <bubblefish4> to save time i advice you to answer
#379 [05:00] <Thoatt> bubblefish4: No. wait... for... GreyVulpine.
#380 [05:00] <aetherian> indin...intuf....uh...
#381 [05:00] <aetherian> still no luck
#382 [05:00] <Thoatt> WE'VE ANSWERED YOU 47 TIMES NOW
#383 [05:01] <bubblefish4> and i did that *****
#384 [05:01] <bubblefish4> and did it work?
#385 [05:01] <bubblefish4> hmmmmmm?
#386 [05:01] <bubblefish4> answer please?
#387 [05:01] <aetherian> wait what
#388 [05:01] <aetherian> don't censor words, it's lame
#389 [05:01] <bubblefish4> your fucking lame
#390 [05:01] <aetherian> damn us all you want :)
#391 [05:01] <bubblefish4> ^ happy
#392 [05:01] <aetherian> oh by the by, it's you're
#393 [05:02] <aetherian> not your
#394 [05:02] <aetherian> ehehe
#395 [05:02] <bubblefish4> you could just help me
#396 [05:02] <aetherian> this is more fun
#397 [05:02] <bubblefish4> can you help or not?
#398 [05:02] <bubblefish4> yes or no
#399 [05:02] <Thoatt> I'm going to switch to whimsy flims marks and scribblers from hoity toity tip-and-typers if this keeps up...
#400 [05:02] <aetherian> most likely
#401 [05:02] <bubblefish4> it's 7 pm
#402 [05:02] <aetherian> oho
#403 [05:02] <aetherian> too late for you?
#404 [05:02] <aetherian> it's 2 o'clock here
#405 [05:02] <Thoatt> It's 5 am here.
#406 [05:03] <bubblefish4> and i am fucking annoyed i have not had coffee and am gonna rage run if i don't get help
#407 [05:03] <aetherian> RAGEQUIT
#408 [05:03] <aetherian> are you...
#409 [05:03] <aetherian> are you trying to guilt us?
#410 [05:03] <aetherian> WAHAHA
#411 [05:03] <bubblefish4> no
#412 [05:04] <aetherian> just to let you know
#413 [05:04] <bubblefish4> i am just trying to get an answer to my problem
#414 [05:04] <aetherian> oh nevermind
#415 [05:04] <aetherian> just...
#416 [05:04] <bubblefish4> what?
#417 [05:04] <aetherian> force an update on your drivers
#418 [05:04] <Thoatt> Dude... go get some biscuts and tea, or perhaps some clammy rogers and stop harping.
#419 [05:04] <aetherian> humkay?
#420 [05:04] <aetherian> mmyes
#421 [05:04] <aetherian> fancy a spot of tea, thoatt?
#422 [05:04] <Thoatt> quite :)
#423 [05:04] <aetherian> brilliant!
#424 [05:05] * bubblefish4 cries
#424 [05:05] <Thoatt> indubidubly!
#425 [05:05] <aetherian> bubblefish4: you're forgetting I thrive off of schandenfreude
#426 [05:05] <bubblefish4> what the hell is that?!]
#427 [05:05] <aetherian> hang on
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#429 [05:06] <Thoatt> lol....
#430 [05:06] <Thoatt> it means something like...
#431 [05:06] <Thoatt> man.. hard to explain..
#432 [05:06] <Thoatt> he gets off on you being angry with him
#433 [05:06] <Thoatt> almost like gloating
#434 [05:06] <Thoatt> It's German lol
#435 [05:06] <aetherian> http://tinyurl.com/bxcpfd
#436 [05:07] <bubblefish4> soon i will give up mine craft
#437 [05:07] <aetherian> hark!
#438 [05:07] <aetherian> I hear the herald angel singing!
#439 [05:07] <bubblefish4> if i can't run it
#440 [05:07] <bubblefish4> bye
#441 [05:07] <aetherian> then you can't get a refund, most likely
#442 [05:07] <aetherian> bye :)
#443 [05:08] <Thoatt> We've told you 15 times how to fix it.
#444 [05:08] <bubblefish4> i has illegal version
#445 [05:08] <Thoatt> You won't listen.
#446 [05:08] <aetherian> I could tell that
#447 [05:08] <bubblefish4> and you told me wrong
#448 [05:08] <aetherian> and we told you right
#449 [05:08] <Thoatt> We figured this out when you wanted to play offline
#450 [05:08] <bubblefish4> nope
#451 [05:08] <aetherian> Thoatt: and when his version was off
#452 [05:08] <bubblefish4> you are wrong
#453 [05:08] <Thoatt> exactly.
#454 [05:08] <Thoatt> lol
#455 [05:08] <aetherian> bubblefish4: get drivers
#456 [05:08] <aetherian> go away
#457 [05:08] <aetherian> ???
#458 [05:08] <aetherian> profit
#459 [05:09] <bubblefish4> I DID
#460 [05:09] <aetherian> su-ure
#461 [05:09] <bubblefish4> fuck you
#462 [05:09] <bubblefish4> i give up
#463 [05:09] <aetherian> except
#464 [05:09] <aetherian> I have grounds to kick you now anyway
#465 [05:09] <Thoatt> YOUR WUNDERBAHBOX CONNECTED TO THE ELECTRO-ROPE?
#466 [05:09] <aetherian> :O
#467 [05:09] <aetherian> wait... you need a COMPUTER to access the internet?
#468 [05:09] <bubblefish4> damn this damn everything bye
#469 [05:09] <aetherian> bye
#470 [05:09] <aetherian> :)
#471 [05:09] <Thoatt> ffs.. good BYE
#472 [05:10] <bubblefish4> bye thnx for your "help"
#473 [05:10] <Thoatt> np
#474 [05:10] <Thoatt> anythime
#475 [05:10] <aetherian> you are welcome
#476 [05:10] <Thoatt> time*
#477 [05:10] <aetherian> any thyme
#478 [05:10] <aetherian> seasoning
#479 [05:10] <aetherian> heh
#480 [05:10] <Thoatt> next time we'll break out the merry fizzlebombs and beef wellington ensembles with lettuce for you.
#481 [05:10] <aetherian> come now, you can laugh, thoey
#482 [05:11] <aetherian> ooh, did someone say bombs?
#483 [05:11] <aetherian> I happen to have a book to help me with that...
#484 [05:11] <aetherian> but not the stuff
#485 [05:11] <aetherian> I need to go to the store
#486 [05:11] <Thoatt> Something tells me bubblefish4 is more of a nutty-gum and fruit spleggings man than a beef welly ensemble with lettuce man
#487 [05:12] <aetherian> he seems more of a BLOOMING... (flower) kind of guy
#488 [05:13] <Thoatt> Get on your wunderbahboxes and surf the world wide wibbly web.
#489 [05:13] <aetherian> nonono
#490 [05:13] <aetherian> only a tiny bit of it is wibbly
#491 [05:14] <aetherian> like VoxelHead
#492 [05:14] <aetherian> he wibbles
#493 [05:15] <Thoatt> ...
#494 [05:15] <Thoatt> VOX
#495 [05:15] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial bu-
#496 [05:15] <aetherian> dammit
#497 [05:15] <aetherian> DAMMIT
#498 [05:15] <aetherian> ^&*(&%(*#
#499 [05:15] <Thoatt> Ere, seen you rarfy ding! I'll park you out bellend.
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#501 [05:16] <Thoatt> spark*
#502 [05:16] <aetherian> vox, eat thoatt
#503 [05:16] <Thoatt> fail lol
#504 [05:16] <Thoatt> vox, fire everything at aetherian
#505 [05:16] <Thoatt> ...
#506 [05:16] <aetherian> go to, y'are a dry fool
#507 [05:16] <aetherian> I'll have no more of you
#508 [05:17] <aetherian> <3 shakespeare
#509 [05:17] <Thoatt> Oi! silly sod... stuff a breaddystack in your slappy ham!
#510 [05:18] <aetherian> vox, come back
#511 [05:18] <bread> what
#512 [05:18] <Thoatt> lol
#513 [05:18] <Thoatt> nothing bread
#514 [05:18] <bread> I really need to make it only hilight when the full word is said
#515 [05:18] <bread> lol
#516 [05:19] <aetherian> mmmmmm
#517 [05:19] * aetherian puts some nutella on bread
#517 [05:19] <aetherian> OMNOMNOM
#518 [05:19] <bread> :O
#519 [05:19] <Thoatt> You took my advice? amazing lol
#520 [05:19] <bread> is that that gross Australian stuff?
#521 [05:19] <bread> no wait, that's something else.
#522 [05:19] <aetherian> ...
#523 [05:19] <Thoatt> nonono, you're thinking of vegemite.
#524 [05:19] <bread> yeah that
#525 [05:19] <aetherian> hmm
#526 [05:20] <Thoatt> lol
#527 [05:20] <aetherian> vegemite vs nutella
#528 [05:20] <bread> well their containers look the same lol
#529 [05:20] <aetherian> definitely vegemite
#530 [05:20] <Thoatt> spam > vegemite
#531 [05:20] <bread> spam isn't actually that bad
#532 [05:20] <Thoatt> It's not, I actually like it.
#533 [05:20] * aetherian has the urge to spam
#533 [05:20] <bread> lol
#534 [05:20] <bread> that kind of spam is bad
#535 [05:20] <aetherian> oh
#536 [05:20] <Thoatt> Turkey spam :O sooo good.
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#538 [05:22] <aetherian> bread
#539 [05:22] <aetherian> sooooo good
#540 [05:22] * aetherian spreads anchovy paste on bread
#540 [05:22] <Thoatt> so yeah... aetherian...
#541 [05:22] * aetherian doesn't eat it though
#541 [05:22] <bread> ewww
#542 [05:22] <Thoatt> I haven't heard someone use the term LART... in forever...
#543 [05:22] * bread is only good with peanutbutter
#543 [05:22] <bread> :3
#544 [05:22] <aetherian> Thoatt: so D:
#545 [05:22] <Katzuyu> Teenage mutant ninja turtles! *wave*
#546 [05:22] <bread> or butter
#547 [05:22] * Katzuyu gigles
#547 [05:22] <aetherian> ...
#548 [05:22] <aetherian> LART please
#549 [05:23] <Thoatt> idk.. it's been so long I had to remember what it meant lol
#550 [05:23] <aetherian> heh
#551 [05:23] <aetherian> fail
#552 [05:24] <aetherian> I think that bubblefish counted as a luser
#553 [05:24] <Thoatt> +1
#554 [05:24] <Thoatt> lol
#555 [05:24] <Thoatt> Needed a clue-by-four for sure.
#556 [05:24] <aetherian> no
#557 [05:24] <aetherian> I could just give him a cluebrick
#558 [05:25] <aetherian> apply to face until healed
#559 [05:25] <Thoatt> lol
#560 [05:25] <aetherian> there are people who require CLUEGARROTING >:O
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#563 [05:29] <aetherian> solong!
#564 [05:31] <aetherian> oh man
#565 [05:31] <aetherian> I've listened to the queen's night at the opera over 10 times today
#566 [05:31] <aetherian> maybe over 15
#567 [05:33] <aetherian> welp, finished 3/5 of my paper
#568 [05:33] <aetherian> 2/5 left
#569 [05:34] <aetherian> but hey, it's only 2:30
#570 [05:34] <aetherian> and it's not like it's a school ni- err
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#572 [05:38] <Thoatt> ok well... going back to bed... gnight everyone
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#575 [05:42] <aetherian> what
#576 [05:42] <aetherian> Thoatt
#577 [05:42] <aetherian> what's bed
#578 [05:44] <Thoatt> well, I have work after i get up, so I actually do need some sleep lol
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#581 [05:46] <Elvang> Is redstone ore light emission synced in smp?
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#583 [05:47] <aetherian> uh
#584 [05:47] <aetherian> maybe
#585 [05:48] <aetherian> maybe not
#586 [05:48] <aetherian> with the right combination of chemicals, anything can seem synced!
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#588 [06:04] <aetherian> yeehaa
#589 [06:04] <aetherian> 1/5 left to go
#590 [06:04] <aetherian> I'll probably have like 3 hours of sleep tonight >.>
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#595 [06:28] <aetherian> hell yes
#596 [06:28] <aetherian> finished it
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#598 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> notch Markus Persson
#599 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> So far, Minecraft is tracking 662 statistics. The stats list page is annoying. I need a tree list feature!
#600 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> notch Markus Persson
#601 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> So far, Minecraft is tracking 662 statistics. The stats list page is annoying. I need a tree list feature!
#602 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> notch Markus Persson
#603 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> So far, Minecraft is tracking 662 statistics. The stats list page is annoying. I need a tree list feature!
#604 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#605 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Didn't scroll down
#606 [06:57] <nipper> Spam much?
#607 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> I was wondering why it didn't paste that, had it scrolled up
#608 [06:57] <nipper> lol
#609 [06:57] <nipper> I know I have done that before as well.
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#616 [08:23] <Arcanum> hi, I just had a crash and need help
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#618 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> Got any error reports?
#619 [08:26] <Arcanum> none were produced
#620 [08:26] <GreyVulpine> Okay, so what exactly is the problem?
#621 [08:27] <Arcanum> I just posted it all in the #minecraft channel
#622 [08:27] <Arcanum> I can paste it here or you can read it there
#623 [08:28] <feenyx> I think less and less of us actually hang out there
#624 [08:28] <Arcanum> I see GreyVulpine is present there
#625 [08:28] <GreyVulpine> Reading over #minecraft
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#627 [08:29] <mib_evs7qi> hello
#628 [08:29] <mib_evs7qi> i have a question
#629 [08:29] <GreyVulpine> Possibly sounds like a world/chunk corruption issue
#630 [08:29] <Arcanum> I'd be happy if I can get my ore back somehow, the rest I can recoup easily
#631 [08:30] <Arcanum> it's the iron ore which takes the longest to find and mine
#632 [08:30] <GreyVulpine> There's tons of inventory editors out there you could use
#633 [08:30] <GreyVulpine> InvEdit is one such program
#634 [08:30] <Arcanum> is that a good one?
#635 [08:30] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
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#637 [08:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_evs7qi - What question?
#638 [08:30] <Arcanum> I'll try that then. I don't like cheating, but I think it's fair to get them back.
#639 [08:30] <mib_evs7qi> when i buyed the game at cd-keys.at where i can activate the code on the minecraft page ?
#640 [08:31] <GreyVulpine> www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#641 [08:31] <mib_evs7qi> thanks mate <3
#642 [08:31] <Arcanum> I'll give that a whirl, thanks GreyVulpine
#643 [08:31] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#644 [08:33] <Arcanum> it's not my day :) earlier I went travelling quite far across the map and created a new portal - only to find it links to the other one in the nether
#645 [08:36] <Arcanum> so I have to mine more obsidian, and try to create another portal near the new one in the other world
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#648 [08:54] <Arcanum> I managed to dig back to where I was and sure enough no items - thanks again for the help, GreyVulpine, it was invaluable
#649 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> That's what we're here for.
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#653 [09:05] <Shorex> Hello!
#654 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#655 [09:05] <Pseudo123> Hi all
#656 [09:05] <Pseudo123> I need some help
#657 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#658 [09:05] <Pseudo123> I try again to buy the game
#659 [09:05] <Shorex> Is this game free to play anymore?
#660 [09:05] <Shorex> I cant seem to get it to work
#661 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft classic is still free.
#662 [09:05] <Pseudo123> But one more, it's write " Transaction error An error occured and your purchase was not completed Message from server: authentication denied."
#663 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> You can play minecraft classic via minecraft.net
#664 [09:05] <Shorex> ohhh ok
#665 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> Beta, however, is still premium, and thus, pay to play
#666 [09:06] <Shorex> minecraft classic eh
#667 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> Pseudo123 - What are you trying to pay with?
#668 [09:06] <Shorex> I'll have to go back and look for that
#669 [09:06] <Shorex> Thanks
#670 [09:07] <Pseudo123> Card
#671 [09:07] <Pseudo123> (I don't know the english name)
#672 [09:07] <GreyVulpine> Credit card Pseudo123?
#673 [09:07] <Pseudo123> Yep
#674 [09:07] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried paying via paypal?
#675 [09:07] <Pseudo123> I didn't try
#676 [09:08] <Pseudo123> Did I lose 15€ ?
#677 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Paypal also accepts credit cards, and you don't need to make an account to use them
#678 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> No
#679 [09:08] <Pseudo123> Ok, uff ^^
#680 [09:08] <Pseudo123> I'll try with Paypal
#681 [09:08] <Pseudo123> I don't need an account?
#682 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope
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#684 [09:10] <Pseudo123> Firefox search... but can connect to Paypal...
#685 [09:10] <Pseudo123> =/
#686 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#687 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
#688 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> The paypal link is also within minecraft.net there
#689 [09:11] <Pseudo123> Loading
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#691 [09:11] <Pseudo123> ...
#692 [09:11] <Pseudo123> ;_;
#693 [09:11] <Pseudo123> I bought one game on Steam 1 month ago, with my Credit Card...
#694 [09:12] <Pseudo123> Doesn't work with MC
#695 [09:12] <Pseudo123> =/
#696 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, Minecraft isn't on Steam.
#697 [09:12] <Pseudo123> Yep... =/
#698 [09:12] <Pseudo123> Well
#699 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> You may need to talk to your credit card provider.
#700 [09:12] <Pseudo123> It's DE
#701 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking it's an issue with them not authorizing a purchase from sweden
#702 [09:13] <Pseudo123> Page loading => finish, but it's DE (I'm not DE :/)
#703 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> Security and fraud protection and all that
#704 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> It's alright, it'll autoconvert
#705 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> Paypal will convert currency for you
#706 [09:13] <Pseudo123> oh, it's Svenska
#707 [09:13] <Pseudo123> x')
#708 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> Go up to upper right corner, you can select your language/country
#709 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> It'll convert to your currency
#710 [09:14] <Pseudo123> I did it, now loading...
#711 [09:14] <Pseudo123> Very long...
#712 [09:15] <cliff101> minecraft.net says Thanks
#713 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#714 [09:15] <Pseudo123> Cliff101 : you bought the game?
#715 [09:16] <cliff101> nah
#716 [09:16] <cliff101> but i will later
#717 [09:16] <cliff101> just testing the game
#718 [09:16] <Pseudo123> Omfg, so long loading... Don't know why...
#719 [09:16] <Pseudo123> -__-
#720 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Loading what? the paypal page?
#721 [09:17] <Pseudo123> yep...
#722 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Strange.. it's usually fast for me.
#723 [09:17] <Pseudo123> I'll test another day
#724 [09:17] <Pseudo123> Maybe my computer
#725 [09:17] <Pseudo123> ...
#726 [09:18] <Pseudo123> Bye, thanks for try to help me
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#732 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> !ping
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#737 [10:28] <win32> Hi
#738 [10:29] <win32> Does anybody know why PayPal-Sell in disabled?
#739 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> PayPal-Sell in?
#740 [10:31] <win32> Want to buy a Beta-Account. But when I click on the PayPal symbol: "Something seems to have gone wrong. We'll have a tinker with it momentarily, please check back again later."
#741 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Ah, when trying to buy a gift code?
#742 [10:32] <win32> yep
#743 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Ah, yeah, that's been down for a couple days now.
#744 [10:33] <win32> i know - really annoying
#745 [10:34] <win32> so iam forced to play with my friends on an offline-server :/
#746 [10:34] <feenyx> that's odd
#747 [10:34] <feenyx> I paid for a gift one only last wednesday
#748 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to buy a gift code to credit your account
#749 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> You can pay for it directly
#750 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the gift code thing has been down for a few days.
#751 [10:35] <win32> I have a Beta-Account - Just need 3-4 for friends
#752 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#753 [10:36] <win32> but thx alot - Didnt knews that direct paying works fine
#754 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Oh no, I mean, you can credit your own account
#755 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Still need a gift code if you want to credit other people's
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#758 [10:37] <win32> they will give me their pwd's for it - no problem
#759 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Ah, alright
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#764 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Was why I wasn't on here for a few days.
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#770 [10:49] <alien3445> Hi
#771 [10:49] <alien3445> is anyone here
#772 [10:49] <alien3445> Hello
#773 [10:51] <sykh> lol
#774 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Pfft. Guess he didn't really need help then.
#775 [10:52] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#776 [10:56] <BarryCarlyon> Weekend of Minecraft? I really need to check the forum more.
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#785 [11:38] <sgiratch> Somehow I can't use redstone circuts to activate my dispensers
#786 [11:39] <sgiratch> Shouldnt it just be to connect the dispenser with one line of reddust to any adjecent block?
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#788 [11:40] <xolotl> sgiratch: "any adjacent block?"
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#790 [11:40] <xolotl> sgiratch: You'll want a line of redstone dust going "into" the dispenser; when that dust activates, it should activate the dispenser as well
#791 [11:41] <xolotl> I *think* that it'll just spit out once per activation.
#792 [11:41] <xolotl> So if the redstone is just continually on, it'll only activate the once
#793 [11:41] <xolotl> So to get a repeating dispenser effect, you'd have to hook it up to a clock of some sort.
#794 [11:41] <mib_02vvb6> Hi when i try sleeping in a bed a mob spawns every time no matter how many torches i have up
#795 [11:41] <sgiratch> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIXIoocBa3k
#796 [11:42] <mib_02vvb6> how can i stop that
#797 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_02vvb6 - Don't place it next to a wall
#798 [11:42] <mib_02vvb6> so like just put it in the middle of a room
#799 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#800 [11:42] <mib_02vvb6> ok
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#804 [11:52] <haidihou> hello
#805 [11:52] <haidihou> anybody kwos anything about the "end of stream" error??
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#809 [12:07] <techy123456> may I ask and please go easy on me, I tried mineshafter today just to see what it was all about and then I purchased the full game will I get banned?
#810 [12:07] <lukegb> Probably not.
#811 [12:07] <BarryCarlyon> Mineshafter?
#812 [12:07] <lukegb> BarryCarlyon: 'alternative' minecraft auth
#813 [12:07] <lukegb> Ahem.
#814 [12:08] <techy123456> I don't mean to be in the wrong
#815 [12:08] <techy123456> I just wanted to see what it was like
#816 [12:08] <techy123456> and then I was going to buy it
#817 [12:08] <techy123456> which I ended up doing
#818 [12:08] <techy123456> and am very happy with it
#819 [12:10] <xolotl> Relatedly, sometimes I really bloody hate the web nowadays
#820 [12:10] <xolotl> "Your browser lacks some features that this site makes use of. It is recommended that you update your browser to the latest version"
#821 [12:10] <BarryCarlyon> Makes me sad.
#822 [12:11] <xolotl> What the hell; really? Your page is f*#$ing showing me a block of text. I don't need bloody *features* to do that. HREFs work, that is all I need.
#823 [12:11] * xolotl spends the rest of the day in text-based browsers, just to spite the internet.
#823 [12:11] <BarryCarlyon> o.0
#824 [12:11] <BarryCarlyon> lol
#825 [12:12] <xolotl> Of course half the web seems to use Javascript instead of HREFs, too
#826 [12:12] <techy123456> does anyone know what server channel I would connect to about installing bukkit on my new minecraft server?
#827 [12:12] <xolotl> techy123456: uh, #bukkit.
#828 [12:12] <techy123456> cheers mate :)
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#831 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#832 [12:18] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.234 seconds.
#833 [12:19] <lukegb> !ping
#834 [12:19] <Niddhogger> Does anyone have a solution for randomly blacksreening when playing minecraft?
#835 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Seems like a common problem Niddhogger, I experience it from time to time as well
#836 [12:19] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: :D
#837 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> No one solution available for it yet
#838 [12:19] * GreyVulpine stabs lukegb with voice
#838 [12:20] <Niddhogger> Aww, damn. : (
#839 [12:20] <Niddhogger> I hate the rollback that occurs with it.
#840 [12:20] <Niddhogger> Well thanks anyways! : )
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#842 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> Just know when 1.4 rolls around, we're going to get swamped with support.. again.
#843 [12:22] * GreyVulpine sighs
#843 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> ?? commands
#844 [12:22] <lukegb> :P
#845 [12:22] <VoxelHead> commands: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
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#848 [12:27] <BarryCarlyon> such is life GreyVulpine
#849 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#850 [12:28] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: I just installed 1.4 and I'm getting a com.mojang.minecraft.WolvesNotHousebroken error whenever I shoot them with an egg from a dispenser! halp!
#851 [12:28] <ViralNihility> Anyone familiar with minecraft dedicated host services?
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#853 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> ViralNihility - What exactly are you looking for?
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#855 [12:30] <ViralNihility> Essentially, a host that has customizable plans.. or plans that come with access to complete modification of server files.
#856 [12:30] <BarryCarlyon> 1.4 is out?
#857 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> There's quite a few hosts like that, with varying levels of support and pricing plans
#858 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Allgamer provides one such service, and the AG people you see voiced in this channel run it
#859 [12:31] <ViralNihility> Could you link me to a few? I put in an e-mail to minecraftgsp.com last week and still haven't gotten a response.
#860 [12:31] <ViralNihility> Ah, I'll check out AllGamer first then.
#861 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Other providers include Multiplay, a very popular gaming host service
#862 [12:31] <mitpatterson> Question:(hopefully a quick one) i can't seem to find any lava, i'm on singleplayer(beta) i've dug all the way down and dug a LOT(like 12 + hours) and hitting the "f" i can't seem to see any, am i doing it wrong?
#863 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> And xenonservers
#864 [12:32] <lukegb> I can recommend both AG and Multiplay
#865 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> mitpatterson - Lava can usually be found a little bit above bedrock
#866 [12:32] <lukegb> Having used both their services
#867 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> I can vouch for AG's integrity as well, they're good people.
#868 [12:32] <ViralNihility> Hmmm.. only 3GB for 90 dollars ):
#869 [12:34] <mitpatterson> GreyVulpine, i've dug down to the bedrock and dug around, and i can't find any, and if found on the wiki the mention of hitting the "f" key to redraw the "fog" and you can look for red blocks, but the only "light" i see underground is my torches (and yes, i'm a noob, i just got the full game on saturday(or was it friday...))
#870 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> mitpatterson - If you want to "cheat" a little bit, there's quite a few x-ray texture packs that'll redraw all the normal blocks and make them transparent
#871 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Leaving water and lava to be clearly visible.
#872 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Quick google search... here's one: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=171726
#873 [12:36] <mitpatterson> hmmm, i just don't want to break anything doing that... is it possible the map formed with no lava?
#874 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#875 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> And you won't break anything, it's just as simple as selecting the texture pack via the Mods and Texture pack button inside minecraft
#876 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Then just switching back to default when you're done
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#878 [12:37] <mitpatterson> if i break it, i'll blame you, lol
#879 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> And I'll help you fix it.
#880 [12:37] <mitpatterson> lol, k, i downloaded that pack you linked to, and it said instructuctions are in the read me, i'll bbiab
#881 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> All you gotta do, is place that zip file in your %appdata%/.minecraft/texturepacks folder
#882 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> (if you're running windows)
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#884 [12:38] <mitpatterson> yah, i just want to make sure i do it right, so i'm reading the readme.txt
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#886 [12:38] <mitpatterson> figure it never hurts to read the "directions"
#887 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Always a good idea.
#888 [12:39] <zaraakinae> can someone help me find out how to change my skin in multiplayer?
#889 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> zaraakinae - You can do it via your profile page at minecraft.net
#890 [12:39] <zaraakinae> there's something wrong with it
#891 [12:39] <zaraakinae> yeah
#892 [12:39] <zaraakinae> it works for singleplayer
#893 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> It should still work in MP as well
#894 [12:39] <zaraakinae> and i can see it in multiplayer but no one else can
#895 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> restart your client when you upload the png
#896 [12:40] <zaraakinae> i have
#897 [12:40] <zaraakinae> and so have the others on the server
#898 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Then... it should have worked
#899 [12:40] <zaraakinae> i'm not sure if the server's been reset though
#900 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> If you can see it, others can too
#901 [12:40] <zaraakinae> that's what i thought...
#902 [12:40] <zaraakinae> but they can't see it
#903 [12:40] <mitpatterson> GreyVulpine, i just noticed in the "mods and Textrues Packs" option in minecraft has a button to open the folder for the mods
#904 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#905 [12:41] <mitpatterson> thats a nice feature
#906 [12:41] <mitpatterson> gosh, this is scary, all my glass is even clearer, hard to tell where i'm at in my "house"
#907 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> See your lava?
#908 [12:42] <mitpatterson> yah, a lot less than i expected to see, i figured half the bottom would be flooded with it
#909 [12:43] <mitpatterson> and soa re the areas that are "wireframed" that i didn't make are like dungeons?
#910 [12:43] * qster should learn to make fireplaces a bit more secure.. *says goodbye to roof*
#910 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> On that texture pack, yes
#911 [12:43] <mitpatterson> wow, my "house" is has been sitting on top of some lava, and i had been mining in "staircases" so i was going away from it, lol
#912 [12:46] <mitpatterson> wow, and one of my tunnels is just a fuzz above some lava, sweet
#913 [12:46] * mitpatterson goes to looks up what i need to harvast that lava bbl
#913 [12:47] <mitpatterson> ahhh, i see a dungeon or somethign with monsters jumping, note to selff, avoid that
#914 [12:49] <mitpatterson> wow, i've seen my first "squid"
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#916 [12:51] <mitpatterson> GreyVulpine, thanks for your help
#917 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> No prob.
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#919 [12:53] <xolotl> mitpatterson: I'd be remiss if I didn't pump out a link to http://apocalyptech.com/minecraft/xray/ as well, btw, though that's a separate program that you'd run, rather than a texture pack or mod.
#920 [12:53] <mitpatterson> i'll check it out, did you make it?
#921 [12:54] <xolotl> mitpatterson: I'm maintaining it; I didn't write the original versions though.
#922 [12:55] <mitpatterson> also, for mining purposes i switched back to the reg textures, any good giveaways that i'm about to hit the lava?
#923 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> just listen
#924 [12:56] <mitpatterson> for what?
#925 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> basically sizzling
#926 [12:56] <mitpatterson> ah, good to know, i normally play music, turned that off so i can hear
#927 [12:57] <mitpatterson> seeing as my "house" is 2 blocks thick all the way around, and well lit, i don't think i have to worry about "creeps"
#928 [12:57] <mitpatterson> ok, i've hit some bedrock, so either i'm on top of if, or i missed it a bit
#929 [12:58] <mitpatterson> oh, and i hit some diamond ore, YAH
#930 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> If you hit diamond, you can be sure lava isn't that far beyond it
#931 [12:58] <mitpatterson> k, well i've hit diamond before(higher up.... odd)
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#933 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Diamond can be found further up..
#934 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> It's just, diamond can be found more often near lava
#935 [12:59] <mitpatterson> ah
#936 [13:00] <mitpatterson> grrr, soooo much gravel
#937 [13:01] <mitpatterson> so is the combo of hitting bedrock and the diamond a good sign i'm close?
#938 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#939 [13:03] <mitpatterson> ah, just turned on that x-ray again, i already went past it, didn't dig "down" fast enoght
#940 [13:04] <xolotl> Diamond doesn't *actually* spawn more often near lava, that I've ever seen. It's more just that pools of lava "open up" larger spaces underground, so you're more likely to have that space include some diamonds
#941 [13:05] <xolotl> Rather than having to stripmine a bunch of solid rock
#942 [13:05] <mitpatterson> i see lava YAH
#943 [13:05] <mitpatterson> got 3 bucekts of lava, now to make the long jurney back up
#944 [13:07] <mitpatterson> hmmm, just dumped 3 buckets into a 1 sq by 2 high glass block area, and it only filled up 1x1
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#951 [13:44] <lilybet> hi
#952 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#953 [13:44] <lilybet> i keep getting fatal error 5 , any help? :(
#954 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> What's the exact error?
#955 [13:45] <lilybet> extracting: windows_natives.jar.lzma to windows_natives.jar
#956 [13:45] <lilybet> error in datastream
#957 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, what are you using to launch minecraft? What Operating system are you on?
#958 [13:47] <lilybet> ive tried the 2 exe that you are suppose to download and i get error 4 , and ive downloaded the 'full' minecraft off a torrent and get the error 5 when trying to run the game and in the browser
#959 [13:47] <lilybet> winxp
#960 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: don't torrent. Just don't.
#961 [13:47] <lilybet> update the game*
#962 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> What version of Java have you got installed?
#963 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> On windows, go to your command prompt, and use 'java -version' to find out your version
#964 [13:49] <lilybet> v6 update 24
#965 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Alright.. let's start from scratch. Do you know how to delete your .minecraft folder?
#966 [13:49] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/profile
#967 [13:49] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#968 [13:49] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#969 [13:49] <lilybet> 1.6.0_24
#970 [13:50] <lilybet> yes
#971 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you completely remove .minecraft, as well as the .exe launcher
#972 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Then redownload the .exe from minecraft.net again
#973 [13:50] <lilybet> %appdata% correct?
#974 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Right
#975 [13:52] <lilybet> err... where is the exe again^^
#976 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Wherever you downloaded it to.
#977 [13:52] <lilybet> dope nvm
#978 [13:54] <lilybet> its busy updating
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#980 [13:54] <lilybet> error 4
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#990 [13:55] <TatliGriL> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#991 [13:55] <TatliGriL> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#992 [13:55] <TatliGriL> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#993 [13:55] <TatliGriL> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#994 [13:55] <TatliGriL> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#995 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> ! TatliGriL
#996 [13:55] <lilybet> retrieving windows_natives.jar.lzma 100%
#997 [13:55] <lilybet> same error as before
#998 [13:56] <aetherian> whoa
#999 [13:56] <aetherian> that was... big
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#1001 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1002 [13:57] <lilybet> if i go to %appdata% their is no .minecraft folder
#1003 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - And you've downloaded a fresh minecraft.exe file from minecraft.net?
#1004 [13:57] <lilybet> w8 i lie
#1005 [13:58] <lilybet> is one only 2.7mb
#1006 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> I don't think it's that big..
#1007 [13:59] <lilybet> so... only way i got it to 'work' was download the torrent , go through the browser and say dont update , if i tried that through the torrent the screen is blank and also error if try update
#1008 [14:00] <lilybet> free to play works fine fyi
#1009 [14:00] <lilybet> through the browser
#1010 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Try the "in-browser" link at minecraft.net
#1011 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Not the classic one, but for beta
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#1013 [14:02] <lilybet> "would you like to update?" yes or no
#1014 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1015 [14:03] <lilybet> downloads windows_natives.jar.lzma 3x to 100% then gives error 4 "failed to download"
#1016 [14:04] <lilybet> if i say no screen stays white
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#1018 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> When you got that torrent, how was it installed?
#1019 [14:06] <lilybet> downloaded , then copyed the .minecraft to the %appdata% , ran the exe , say no to update then played
#1020 [14:06] <lilybet> through the browser
#1021 [14:06] <lilybet> not the app/exe
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#1023 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
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#1025 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Could you try deleting the .minecraft folder completely again, and try downloading the linux minecraft.jar file from minecraft.net
#1026 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> With that, make a batch file, and have:
#1027 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> windows_natives.jar.lzma
#1028 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1029 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> ignore that first one
#1030 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Have the batch file inside the same directory as the .jar file, and execute it with that.
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#1032 [14:11] <lilybet> err how u make a btach file again?
#1033 [14:11] <lilybet> batch*
#1034 [14:13] <aetherian> make the file, save it as all files, and append .bat to the filename
#1035 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Make a new text file or something in notepad, copy that java line in, then go up to save as, switch the file type to "all files"
#1036 [14:14] <lilybet> ok a login screen has popped up
#1037 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Log in using that..
#1038 [14:14] <lilybet> auto updating
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#1040 [14:16] <lilybet> error 4
#1041 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Bah, alright
#1042 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> did you try a new Windows profile yet?
#1043 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, try DopeGhoti's suggestion
#1044 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/profile
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#1046 [14:17] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1047 [14:17] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#1049 [14:17] <lilybet> er.. ok
#1050 [14:18] <mib_Voice> I came for some help on setting up a server, anyone game?
#1051 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help do you need?
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#1053 [14:21] <mitpatterson> lol, i just had a sheep fall into my lava pit that was for the "monsters"
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#1055 [14:22] <aetherian> death to all sheep?
#1056 [14:23] <mitpatterson> i have no clue why he went there, most of the time the only thing that gets that close to my bright structore are the monsters(since they are after me)
#1057 [14:24] <mitpatterson> and "tonight" for somereason, i don't even see any monsters, and actually the last few nights i haven't, mabey they are plotting how they are going to over run my glass structure?
#1058 [14:24] <mitpatterson> oh gosh, there is a cow and a chicken near the lava pit
#1059 [14:24] <VoxelHead> thank you... i love you.
#1060 [14:24] <lilybet> same error 4
#1061 [14:24] <mitpatterson> chicken fell in
#1062 [14:24] <VoxelHead> well, hi floor... make me a sandwich
#1063 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Even with a new windows user account?
#1064 [14:24] <mitpatterson> the cow fell now
#1065 [14:24] <mitpatterson> lol, this is great
#1066 [14:24] <mitpatterson> the cow is funy when on fire
#1067 [14:25] <lilybet> ye
#1068 [14:25] <mib_Voice> I have the server running and can login as localhost, I fowarded the port 25565 on my router/modem combo unit, and have turned off windows firewall to single out the porblem
#1069 [14:25] <mib_Voice> Sorry, a customer walked in Grey
#1070 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - I'd suggest trying to completely uninstall and reinstall java then. Sounds like either java permissions problem, or a connection issue.
#1071 [14:25] <mib_Voice> The problem is...I can't find the problem now :)
#1072 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_Voice - Can you confirm for me, your network port forwarding setup?
#1073 [14:26] <VoxelHead> can i phone a friend?
#1074 [14:26] <lilybet> kk
#1075 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Just start from the very beginning
#1076 [14:27] <lilybet> have to close 'java' see ja later
#1077 [14:27] <mitpatterson> yah, a monter filally died in my pit
#1078 [14:27] <VoxelHead> monter filally, got it.
#1079 [14:27] <mitpatterson> and its morning....
#1080 [14:27] <mib_Voice> I logged into my router, I have a NAT settting called "Port Triggering" I added a port...25565 (which is the port in my server-properties) there is a trigger port range and an open port range
#1081 [14:28] <mib_Voice> On this router you must have values in both trigger and in open or it will not save the settings
#1082 [14:28] <mitpatterson> the only monsters i really have a problem with are the spiders, and the green ones that can live during the day, that got exploady
#1083 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> What kind of router?
#1084 [14:28] <mib_Voice> I then saved and rebooted the router and restarted the server
#1085 [14:28] <mib_Voice> Comtrend was the router that came with my ISP
#1086 [14:29] <mib_Voice> comtrend adsl2+ ct-5361t
#1087 [14:29] <spdorsey> quick help please - does anyone know the permissions command to change a player's rank? I need my admins to be able to change ranks using permissions.jar
#1088 [14:29] <spdorsey> i tried the bukkit IRC, and no replies
#1089 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_Voice - Are you sure it's port forwarding, and not port triggering?
#1090 [14:30] <VoxelHead> Only with fruit.
#1091 [14:30] <mib_Voice> http://www.comtrend.com/br/dbase/upload/CT5361T_R1.1_110507.pdf (My routers online manual) Has pictures to show what I am talkign about in the port triggering setting
#1092 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> er wait.. you're doing port triggering
#1093 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> No, don't do port triggering
#1094 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Lemme look at that router, once sec
#1095 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Ah, do NAT - Virtual Server
#1096 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Public 25565-25565, TCP going to internal 25565-25565
#1097 [14:31] <mib_Voice> There is no open to just port foward...there is only the option to open the port and then also trigger the port for the program everytime there is a request from an outside source
#1098 [14:32] <mib_Voice> ahh? so no trigger setting at all?
#1099 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Port triggering != port forwarding
#1100 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> In this router, setting up a virtual server setting == port forwarding
#1101 [14:32] <mib_Voice> I have read into and have figured that out :)
#1102 [14:32] <mib_Voice> it seems restrictive
#1103 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> port triggering only opens the port when it receives a connection on a specific (trigger) port
#1104 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> It then opens the port that you want.
#1105 [14:33] <mib_Voice> and a user request doesnt trigger i am guessing?
#1106 [14:34] <mib_Voice> Still don't fully get it tbh but I realize it is more complicated and different from port fowarding
#1107 [14:35] <mib_Voice> Least I am knowledgable enough to get someone like you to heman my connection into working right? lol
#1108 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Simple explaination here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_triggering
#1109 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> spdorsey - I don't see a permissions command to do what you want it to do
#1110 [14:38] <mib_Voice> Yeah thats the source i used, anyways much thanks, I will try this setting later
#1111 [14:38] <mitpatterson> holy cow, just found a dungon(with that "x-ray" probaly not more than 3 blocks away from where i had done a major dib, and that has about 9 monsters in it, good thing i wasn't over a few blocks
#1112 [14:38] <spdorsey> :( thanks
#1113 [14:39] <spdorsey> I thought there was a way to edit permissions for players from the game's prompt
#1114 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> http://www.fragnet.net/forums/showthread.php?588-Essentials-Command-Reference-%28bukkit%29
#1115 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> I assume that's pretty up to date, can't find anything there
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#1117 [14:39] <mib_Voice> grey do you have a permissions "starter" guide handy that you'd refer me to? Is that it ^?
#1118 [14:40] <mib_Voice> I will eventually want to dive into that as well
#1119 [14:40] <lilybet> no luck
#1120 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I actually have close to no experience with bukkit or its plugins
#1121 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Been meaning to get into it, but 1.3 has put my server out of commission.
#1122 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> I'm one of the unlucky few that get horrible lag when trying to host a 1.3 server
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#1124 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Weird, are you running any sort of firewall or security software on your computer?>
#1125 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Anything that might have blocked java?
#1126 [14:42] <lilybet> avira
#1127 [14:42] <lilybet> nope
#1128 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Avira.. the AV? or the internet security suite?
#1129 [14:42] <VoxelHead> Knows.
#1130 [14:42] <lilybet> uninstalls and installs fine
#1131 [14:42] <lilybet> av
#1132 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> If it's just the AV, it wouldn't have anything to do with that then. Um.
#1133 [14:44] <lilybet> ye so ive paid for a game that i cant get working 'sad face'
#1134 [14:44] <mitpatterson> what OS are you running?
#1135 [14:44] <lilybet> xp
#1136 [14:45] <mitpatterson> ok, so you wouldn't have any UAC issues....
#1137 [14:45] <mitpatterson> hmmm
#1138 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> lilybet: have you yet tried uninstalling and reinstalling Java itself?
#1139 [14:45] <mitpatterson> can you give me the 2 sentence summary of the issue(i haven't been paying atentiong, been playing)
#1140 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti, yes
#1141 [14:46] <lilybet> error 4/5 failed to download..
#1142 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Basically, it stalls at the downloading packages screen for minecraft, gets stuck extracting windows_natives.jar.lzma
#1143 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> All current Windows Updates installed?
#1144 [14:46] <mitpatterson> so basically the game won't work? correct?
#1145 [14:46] <lilybet> windows_natives.jar.lzma
#1146 [14:47] <lilybet> i got it to work once
#1147 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Happens on the downloaded and in-browser clients.
#1148 [14:47] <mitpatterson> hmmm, what browser?
#1149 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> has cleared .minecraft, has tried the .exe and .jar binaries
#1150 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Have all OS updates been installed?
#1151 [14:47] <VoxelHead> death comes to those who wait
#1152 [14:47] <lilybet> downloaded a torrent that was 'fully' updated , copyed the .minecraft folder in the app folder , ran through the browser and said no to updating and it went through
#1153 [14:48] <mitpatterson> wait, so your using a cracked game?
#1154 [14:48] <lilybet> Dope: yes
#1155 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/hosts
#1156 [14:48] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1157 [14:48] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1158 [14:48] <lilybet> mitpatterson: no
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#1160 [14:49] <mitpatterson> lilybet, so what did you download "fully updated"
#1161 [14:50] <mitpatterson> err torrent
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#1163 [14:50] <ViralNihility> Anyone have experience with minecraftgsp.com hosting?
#1164 [14:50] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =[
#1165 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Sorry ViralNihility, I haven't heard of that site
#1166 [14:51] <VoxelHead> Alright then GreyVulpine.
#1167 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#1168 [14:51] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#1168 [14:51] <lilybet> it was minecraft that some one had downloaded and updated , copied it to my pc and logged in with my details
#1169 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Alright, let's try this.. lilybet, could you go to your browser, go to minecraft.net and use the in-browser client again
#1170 [14:52] <gigo> Hey guys i logged to my deeply dug cave today and i had this weird i cant move issue. I have not modded minecraft in anyway and i have not had unexpected crashes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTY4hYUkNHo&feature=player_detailpage#t=69s This video illustrates what the problem entails. I havent mde the video just found it that this guy has the same problem. Tried killing myself doesnt work.
#1171 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Depending on the browser, there should be an option to bring up the java error console
#1172 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Launch the browser client as usual, and give us the output of the java error console at pastebin when it gives you that error
#1173 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> If you're using firefox, the java error console should be up in "tools"
#1174 [14:53] <lilybet> firefox and what?
#1175 [14:53] <lilybet> oh ok
#1176 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> gigo - Strange.. I don't know what causes that. Try a map editor to move your character.
#1177 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> MCedit has that functionality
#1178 [14:54] <gigo> Tried twice moved myself up 50 spaces into space still cant move. Tried moving myself 100 spaces. Doesnt work. Really weird bug havent had any issues until now.
#1179 [14:54] <lilybet> whats pastebin
#1180 [14:54] <mitpatterson> just google it
#1181 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com, it's a site where you can paste a large amount of text in, and share it with others
#1182 [14:55] <mitpatterson> buts its just like it sounds you paste in a lot of text, give us a URL and then we can view it
#1183 [14:55] <gigo> I used NBtedit saw people said its good on the forum for that.
#1184 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> gigo - You still get stuck, even after moving your character?
#1185 [14:55] <gigo> Yeah i just float on air like im god.
#1186 [14:56] <gigo> cant move or anything.
#1187 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1188 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Try this mod, Single Player Commands
#1189 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=100267
#1190 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> It'll let you use commands like /home and /kill in SP
#1191 [14:57] <lilybet> http://pastebin.com/kt8NKaFg
#1192 [14:57] <mitpatterson> What OS's can you run the Minecraft server software from?
#1193 [14:57] <gigo> will do thanks.
#1194 [14:57] <lilybet> hope thats right...
#1195 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> mitpatterson - Any that'll support java
#1196 [14:57] <Morrolan> Mitpatterson: Everything which is able to run java.
#1197 [14:57] <Morrolan> Bah, ninja'd, AND fucked up grammar. :D
#1198 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's not the java error console lilybet.
#1199 [14:58] <lilybet> :o
#1200 [14:58] <VoxelHead> wtf
#1201 [14:58] <mitpatterson> k, i might host my own, i got a Core 2 duo(2ghz) 4Gb or ram, running Server 208, my itnernet is not the best(and according to http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/ i can host 2 players plus my self
#1202 [14:58] <Morrolan> Lilybet: Which browser are you using?
#1203 [14:59] <lilybet> http://pastebin.com/PshiiaUy
#1204 [15:00] <lilybet> better?
#1205 [15:00] <lilybet> firefox
#1206 [15:00] <lilybet> 3.5.18
#1207 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. not exactly what I'm looking for.
#1208 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> When you go to minecraft.net, go up to Tools -> Java Console
#1209 [15:01] <mitpatterson> umm, is the wiki down for anyone else?
#1210 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes mitpatterson
#1211 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Getting Parse error: syntax error, unexpected '*', expecting ']' in /home/minecraftwiki/public_html/LocalSettings.php on line 318
#1212 [15:02] <mitpatterson> same here, whats up i wonder?'
#1213 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Then, when you have the java console open, launch the in-browser client
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#1215 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> It should be a little window that shows more information as minecraft launches in your browser
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#1217 [15:02] <moep> Hi there
#1218 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#1220 [15:03] <lilybet> i clicked on java console now its greyed out, i dont see no small window
#1221 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Or, if you have the java icon in your taskbar, right by the clock, right click on it, and go to "Open 1.6.0_24 Console"
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#1223 [15:05] <lilybet> ok it r open
#1224 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Okay, are you using the minecraft in-browser client now? And is it stuck at the error?
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#1226 [15:06] <lilybet> http://pastebin.com/ymj3ihzs
#1227 [15:06] <lilybet> errr.. i think so
#1228 [15:06] <mitpatterson> so how long has the wiki been down?
#1229 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> No idea mitpatterson
#1230 [15:06] <moep> Is there a problem with custom skins atm?
#1231 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so moep
#1232 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> It should still work
#1233 [15:07] <mitpatterson> and how do we make sure some one knows so it can be fixed...
#1234 [15:07] <moep> hmm, I'm trying to upload a skin, but it doesn't seem to work
#1235 [15:07] <mitpatterson> i let them know in #minecraftwiki
#1236 [15:07] <gigo> Ah thanks i finally fixed it. Moved 1000 x's away and i finally can move. Weird stuff
#1237 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/skins
#1238 [15:07] <VoxelHead> mc.net/skins: Skin uploading will appear not to do anything at minecraft.net. However, if you have uploaded a new skin file, it *will* work in-game. Give it a try! (:
#1239 [15:07] <moep> Oh thank you DopeGhoti ^^
#1240 [15:07] <mitpatterson> DopeGhoti, what did you do there? is "VoxelHead" like a bot?
#1241 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> \o
#1242 [15:07] <moep> Naturally I haven't checked ingame :D
#1243 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> mitpatterson: VoxelHead is our stock answer generator
#1244 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> ??>> mitpatterson help
#1245 [15:08] <mib_Voice> Is it true that I can only have me and 2 others on my server with 1mb dl and .5mb up? How bad would it be if I had 5-6?
#1246 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> .5 megabits upload is only 64 kilobytes
#1247 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Which is barely capable of supporting 1, maybe 2
#1248 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> MC right now, likes to have roughly about 100K/sec per player
#1249 [15:09] <mib_Voice> Do you have a "best hosting service" that you guys like?
#1250 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Does this link work for you?
#1251 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/windows_natives.jar.lzma
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#1253 [15:10] <lilybet> downloaded it
#1254 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> mib_Voice - There's quite a few minecraft hosts out there. Allgamer has a few staff that hang out here, They're the guys who are voiced and have AG prefixes for their nick.
#1255 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Others include Multiplay, a very popular game hosting site.
#1256 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> I've used xenonservers once before for HL2 hosting, and they've got an MC server plan.
#1257 [15:12] <lilybet> must i copy it to the .minecraft folder?
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#1259 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that doesn't make sense lilybet... minecraft is trying to download that file, and isn't able to..
#1260 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> But you can get it by accessing it directly... hmm.
#1261 [15:12] <gigo> Thanks for the help guys turns out from what i've gathered an area in my world is corrupted and i freeze when i enter it. Too bad its my base :-/
#1262 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Ouch, sorry to hear that gigo.
#1263 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> mitpatterson - Looks like the wiki is back up
#1264 [15:13] <gigo> Thanks tho at least i know what the problem is :) Gonna make a new base WITH TNT
#1265 [15:13] <gigo> Cheers
#1266 [15:13] <mitpatterson> oh good
#1267 [15:13] <VoxelHead> Cheeeeeeeeeeeeers.
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#1269 [15:13] <Morrolan> Gigo: You could try to copy paste your base out with MCEDIT
#1270 [15:13] <lilybet> copyed the file to .minecraft/bin and still error 4 in browser
#1271 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's .lzma'd, you need to uncompress that file to be able to use it
#1272 [15:14] * GreyVulpine has no idea what program uncompresses that
#1272 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Looks like 7zip suppots lzma..
#1273 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: it's probably an lxh
#1274 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> 7zip would do it
#1275 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> lzh, even
#1276 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I should just give up on installing Winrar, and move to 7zip
#1277 [15:16] <lilybet> downloading 7zip
#1278 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Just have been using it forever though.
#1279 [15:17] <lilybet> i get a error file is broken
#1280 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Huh..
#1281 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Does anybody here have 7zip?
#1282 [15:18] <lilybet> when i try extract the file you sent me
#1283 [15:18] <mitpatterson> 7zip is free
#1284 [15:18] <Morrolan> Lilybet: It works fine for me. :/
#1285 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> I don't have it installed on this computer
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#1287 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - You can open http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/windows_natives.jar.lzma ?
#1288 [15:18] <mitpatterson> how will one of use having 7zip installed help you GreyVulpine
#1289 [15:18] <Morrolan> I can download and extract it fine with 7zip.
#1290 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Wondering if anybody else has trouble opening the lzma.
#1291 [15:19] <Morrolan> Lilybet: I'll upload the unzipped file to a filehoster, gimme a second. (And don't call Mojang. :p )
#1292 [15:19] <mitpatterson> oh, just let me know if you want me to try to unzip something
#1293 [15:19] <mitpatterson> Morrolan, you giving away ilegit copies?
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#1295 [15:20] <Morrolan> Mitpatterson: Yea, sure....
#1296 [15:20] <lilybet> data error , file is broken
#1297 [15:20] <lilybet> keep getting that
#1298 [15:20] <Morrolan> Want one too?
#1299 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Um.
#1300 [15:20] <mitpatterson> lol
#1301 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> ?? distribution
#1302 [15:20] <VoxelHead> distribution: Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#1303 [15:20] <VoxelHead> distribution: This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#1304 [15:20] <mitpatterson> no, i paid for my copy the other day
#1305 [15:20] <Morrolan> You're not serious, right?
#1306 [15:21] <mitpatterson> Morrolan, who me or DopeGhoti
#1307 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately it's a rather sore topic. The official stance is that file distribution is a no-no
#1308 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> I'm talking to anyone talking about getting Minecraft from places othat than from the official distribution point.
#1309 [15:21] <Morrolan> Well, both of you somehow seemed to think that I'd be givign away illegal copies of Minecraft.
#1310 [15:21] * GreyVulpine pokes DopeGhoti, "Think we could overlook this one time?"
#1310 [15:21] <mitpatterson> i was kidding
#1311 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: it establishes in icky precedent
#1312 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> I know..
#1313 [15:22] <Morrolan> Lilybet: Here is the unzipped file: https://www.opendrive.com/files?20488325_OvOb7
#1314 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> But I've been guilty of it myself, way back when
#1315 [15:22] <Morrolan> Mitpatterson: Nevermind then, wasn't sure wheter you were joking or not, sorry. ^^
#1316 [15:23] <mitpatterson> i was joking about the illegal copy part, not about the just getting it the other day
#1317 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> But it does seem like the file that lilybet gets, is corrupt somehow.. and is what's causing that problem
#1318 [15:24] <lilybet> stupid question.. how do i donwload it?
#1319 [15:24] <mitpatterson> NUKE IT, nuke the old download and the jave and reinstall both
#1320 [15:24] <Morrolan> Click on the file name under that big icon.
#1321 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> For what is causing that corruption, maybe amazon's serving it up bad? Maybe it's getting bad in the transfer? or is it in the computer?
#1322 [15:25] <lilybet> nothing happens when i click it
#1323 [15:25] <lilybet> https://www.opendrive.com/files/20488325_OvOb7/windows_natives.jar
#1324 [15:25] <lilybet> must i reg/login ?
#1325 [15:26] <Morrolan> Oh sorry, not the file name right below the icon, but the one "some more below".
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#1327 [15:26] <Morrolan> Under file details.
#1328 [15:26] <Morrolan> Actually, I never realised how unintuitive opendrive is. :/
#1329 [15:26] <mitpatterson> lol
#1330 [15:26] <mitpatterson> just use like rapid share
#1331 [15:26] <Morrolan> Hell no.
#1332 [15:26] <mitpatterson> or better yet, if you have a webserver just host it there
#1333 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> or dropbox
#1334 [15:27] <Morrolan> If I had one I'd host it there.
#1335 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> dropbox is nice
#1336 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> and free
#1337 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> dropbox is nice
#1338 [15:27] <SkiingPenguins> mediafire is neat
#1339 [15:27] <mitpatterson> i've started just FTP'ing stuff from my computer to my webhost to share stuff
#1340 [15:27] <Morrolan> Dropbox isn't really useful when it comes to distribute to a lot of people.
#1341 [15:27] <lilybet> what ever i click on just refreshes the page
#1342 [15:27] <Morrolan> Lilybet: Gah, I'll upload it to rapidshare.
#1343 [15:28] <mitpatterson> lilybet, Morrolan yah, same thing for me to(i was checking to make sure if it was a issue on lily's end or everyone)
#1344 [15:28] <SkiingPenguins> that's how you troll people on websites! make all buttons refresh page o_O
#1345 [15:28] <mitpatterson> SkiingPenguins, you get a lot of page views that way
#1346 [15:28] <mitpatterson> and clicks
#1347 [15:28] <SkiingPenguins> lol
#1348 [15:28] <Morrolan> http://rapidshare.com/files/454831050/windows_natives.jar
#1349 [15:29] <SkiingPenguins> i dont like rapidshare cause it makes me wait :(
#1350 [15:29] <Morrolan> Mitpatterson: Yeah, that must be the reason they made it this way. XD
#1351 [15:29] <Morrolan> SkiingPenguins: Yea, and that's the reason I prefer OpenDrive.
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#1353 [15:29] <Morrolan> That and the better backend.
#1354 [15:29] <Morrolan> It's really strange though, since I can download from opendrive fine. What browser are you using?
#1355 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> http://db.tt/r9ejm0r <- 2.25GiB of free coloudspace!
#1356 [15:29] <SkiingPenguins> i upload my skyboxes to mediafire only cause they dont make me wait
#1357 [15:30] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: As I said, Dropbox is useless when it comes to distributing to a lot of people, since your acc gets disabled when having too much traffic.
#1358 [15:31] <Morrolan> SkiingPenguins: Mediafire was my first choice as well, but their file uploader isn't working for me.
#1359 [15:31] <SkiingPenguins> oh that sucks
#1360 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: Yes, but for sharing a file with a few people, it's great
#1361 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> or for its actual intended purpose :p
#1362 [15:32] <lilybet> ok got it , must i copy it to .minecraft/bin and try update through the browser now?
#1363 [15:32] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Yea, that's true. ^^
#1364 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I think it goes in .minecraft/bin/natives, doesn't it?
#1365 [15:33] <mitpatterson> has anyone seen the "zero Puncuation" mincraft review?
#1366 [15:33] <lilybet> dont have the natives yet , dont get that far..
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#1368 [15:33] <Morrolan> Would make sense looking at the name. :D
#1369 [15:33] <Morrolan> Lilybet: Just create the folder then.
#1370 [15:33] <Morrolan> Mitpatterson: That was quite some time ago, wasn't it?
#1371 [15:34] <mitpatterson> january
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#1373 [15:34] <VoxelHead> i like them :-)
#1374 [15:34] <mitpatterson> love how he calls them "comacazi shrubs"(sp fail i know)
#1375 [15:34] <SkiingPenguins> i dont have that folder?
#1376 [15:35] <mitpatterson> i think every animal has falen into my lava pit, except the monsters(well one did)
#1377 [15:35] <lilybet> error 4
#1378 [15:36] <mitpatterson> so i have a 2X3(2 high) opening into my "house" but have a 4X 6 lava pit in front of it, witha ceiling, do you guys think anything can manage to get inside?
#1379 [15:36] <VoxelHead> mmm ronjoe
#1380 [15:37] <lilybet> thought the lzma was suppose to be compressed?
#1381 [15:37] <lilybet> its bigger than the jar that was sent to me
#1382 [15:37] <lilybet> 480-476kb
#1383 [15:38] <Morrolan> The lzma might have got compromised on the way. :/
#1384 [15:39] <Morrolan> corrupted*
#1385 [15:39] <lilybet> hence the error 4 right
#1386 [15:39] * GreyVulpine sends off an email to mollstam about this issue.
#1386 [15:39] <Morrolan> I have absolutely no idea, but it might be. ./
#1387 [15:39] <Morrolan> :/*
#1388 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> You're not the first person to report this, but it's not really a common issue.
#1389 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> I can count on one hand, the number of times I've seen this in #MineCraftHelp.
#1390 [15:40] <SkiingPenguins> md5s file has neat things
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#1392 [15:41] <lilybet> can i get a virtual hug?
#1393 [15:41] * ACreeper gives lilybet a virtual hug
#1393 [15:41] <ACreeper> sssssssss
#1394 [15:41] * VoxelHead . o O ( ? )
#1394 [15:41] <ACreeper> Booom!
#1395 [15:42] <mitpatterson> hmm, i want to make some minecarts, but i don't have a lot of iron
#1396 [15:43] <lilybet> i would love to see a creeper that is not on youtube..
#1397 [15:43] <Morrolan> Jesus, Mojang actually made it up in the top four of the March Mayhem. Oo
#1398 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Yup
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#1400 [15:43] <Morrolan> Well, will be hard against Valve. Actually I prefer Valve. :/
#1401 [15:44] * Nop0x [Nop0x@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1402 [15:44] <Morrolan> Though, wasn't it last year Bioware vs Valve already?
#1403 [15:45] <lilybet> "singing the blues"
#1404 [15:45] <Nop0x> uhm, got really big performance problems here on my Laptop while playing Minecraft...any advice?
#1405 [15:45] <Morrolan> Nop0x: Disable smooth lightning.
#1406 [15:45] <lilybet> "mojang has taken my money , and left me with error 4"
#1407 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Other than turning down graphics, turning up fog, and turning smooth lighting off?
#1408 [15:45] <lilybet> i know it dont ryhm
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#1410 [15:46] <Morrolan> Lilybet: Didn't it work with the downloaded file?
#1411 [15:46] <lilybet> no
#1412 [15:46] <Morrolan> Shame. :/
#1413 [15:46] <Morrolan> That's rather strange though, must be a different error then.
#1414 [15:46] <lilybet> minecraft looks so nice from youtube , wonderr what its like in real life
#1415 [15:47] <Nop0x> uhm, already turned everything off, but my laptop should be rly good enough for minecraft at maximum quality
#1416 [15:47] <Morrolan> Already tried it on a different cumputer?
#1417 [15:47] <Morrolan> Lilybet, that is.
#1418 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Send an email to
#1419 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> tobias@mojang.com
#1420 [15:47] <lilybet> my pc is in for repaires
#1421 [15:47] <Morrolan> Nop0x: Did you check the taskmanager wheter it's the CPU or the RAM which you're running low on?
#1422 [15:47] <Nop0x> im here with my friends and they are playing at atm and they got no problems :/
#1423 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Give him the details of your problem.
#1424 [15:47] <Nop0x> uhm
#1425 [15:48] <Nop0x> its nothing i run low on tbh
#1426 [15:48] <lilybet> kinda... sorta... cant be held accountable in court 'broke' my gtx295
#1427 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Ooof.
#1428 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Nop0x - Specs of the laptop?
#1429 [15:48] <lilybet> crap
#1430 [15:49] <Nop0x> while running mindcraft i got ~24 % CPU usage and ~ 2 GB ram left
#1431 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Graphics card?
#1432 [15:49] <Nop0x> uhm sec, can i post my dxdiag?
#1433 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> If you pastebin it..
#1434 [15:49] <Nop0x> kk
#1435 [15:49] <lilybet> like i said at the start i managed to get in once with out updating and the free version works fine so.
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#1437 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, but that doesn't count
#1438 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> (And I really wouldn't mention the torrent to mojang)
#1439 [15:50] <lilybet> it was the 'installed iso'
#1440 [15:50] <lilybet> cos his game wont download
#1441 [15:50] <lilybet> download/install
#1442 [15:51] <Nop0x> http://pastebin.com/rR4QwY3w
#1443 [15:51] <lilybet> if it wasent for private servers id probly never have wasted 6 years on WoW
#1444 [15:52] <lilybet> in this case i paid first and got nothing
#1445 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Well.. Intel graphics would be part of the problem there, many integrated graphics can't handle minecraft
#1446 [15:52] <Nop0x> uhm but the main graphic card is a GeForce GT 540 M
#1447 [15:52] <Nop0x> which should be enough tbh
#1448 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Oh? It's showing "Intel(R) HD Graphics" in the dxdiag.
#1449 [15:53] <Nop0x> i know but the sticker on my Laptop says something different....
#1450 [15:53] <Nop0x> i could try deinstalling the intel HD driver
#1451 [15:54] <Nop0x> cuz i already got the right nvidia driver
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#1453 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Your laptop has to GPUs in it?
#1454 [15:54] <Bob_Sack> usually laptops have the integrated graphics, and nothing else
#1455 [15:55] <Nop0x> to GPUs?
#1456 [15:55] <Bob_Sack> two*
#1457 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> s/to/two
#1458 [15:55] <VoxelHead> Invalid regular expression.
#1459 [15:55] <Nop0x> oh
#1460 [15:55] <Nop0x> hm dunno tbh
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#1462 [15:56] <lilybet> email sent!
#1463 [15:56] <Nop0x> on the support page of my laptop manufacturer
#1464 [15:56] <lilybet> its been 5sec why has he not replied
#1465 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1466 [15:56] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1467 [15:56] <Disertus> bonsoir ya des francais dans le coin pour maider
#1468 [15:56] <Nop0x> there are 2 drivers the intel HD one and the nvidia one
#1469 [15:56] <Thoatt> No it does not. It just has a 540.
#1470 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Desole Disertus.
#1471 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Nous parlons Anglias ici
#1472 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> er, Anglais
#1473 [15:57] <Thoatt> Wait no, I guess it does.
#1474 [15:57] <Morrolan> Disertus: Mon francais est très mal, mais si c'est nécessairs je peut traduire.
#1475 [15:57] <Nop0x> hm i try now deinstalling Intel HD and respond later
#1476 [15:58] <lilybet> he replied!
#1477 [15:58] <Thoatt> Nop0x: Don't... You need those drivers lol
#1478 [15:58] <Morrolan> Lilybet: Seriously? That's fast.
#1479 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#1480 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> ... wow
#1481 [15:58] <Nop0x> huhm.
#1482 [15:58] <Disertus> I try commment recuperer my count mine craft by knowing that I made pirate my hotmail count also
#1483 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> unless it was a reply from the DMTP server.
#1484 [15:58] <lilybet> "I have your goldz , l2p n00b"
#1485 [15:58] <lilybet> :(
#1486 [15:58] * GreyVulpine pffts
#1486 [15:58] <lilybet> he is mean to me
#1487 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Disertus - S'il vous plaît dites-nous votre problème en français
#1488 [15:59] <Nop0x> Then hmmm.... how do I tell Minecraft to use the GeForce GPU?
#1489 [15:59] <SkiingPenguins> oh i cant wait until i learn french next year
#1490 [15:59] <Morrolan> Disertus: Euh, je pense que c'est plus bon si vous demandez en francais. ^^
#1491 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Disertus - Nous pouvons le comprendre un peu mieux
#1492 [16:00] <Disertus> je me suis fait pirater mon compte mine craft je ne peux plus y acceder mais je ne peu pas recuperer le mot de passe parceque mon adresse email aussi a ete pirater
#1493 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> French isn't bad, I only took a couple semesters of it in High school though
#1494 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> My french is horrible
#1495 [16:00] <lilybet> use google translater
#1496 [16:00] <SkiingPenguins> i need 2 semesters to graduate
#1497 [16:00] <Morrolan> Mine too GreyVulpine, but together we should be able to manage it. :D
#1498 [16:00] <Disertus> j ai l id achat un screen de mon compte avec le payement
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#1500 [16:01] <lilybet> i choon all the frogs that way
#1501 [16:01] <Nop0x> uhm hm i thing i try some things, thanks anyway guys
#1502 [16:01] <Thoatt> wait Nop0x
#1503 [16:01] <Nop0x> uhm yeah?
#1504 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Looks like Disertus got his minecraft account hacked, as well as his email
#1505 [16:01] <Morrolan> So if I understood him right his Minecraft credentials got stolen, and his mail as well?
#1506 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1507 [16:01] <SkiingPenguins> OH SNAP that sucks.
#1508 [16:01] <Morrolan> Uh oh.
#1509 [16:02] <ArmEagle> hmm, any idea how much momentum a cart loses going up 1 slope (/block/high)
#1510 [16:02] <SkiingPenguins> get the mail back first eh?
#1511 [16:02] <lilybet> what can you steal in minecraft anyway?
#1512 [16:02] <Morrolan> Lilybet: The account details?
#1513 [16:02] <Bob_Sack> the account..
#1514 [16:02] <Morrolan> Aka name and password?
#1515 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1516 [16:02] <lilybet> and do what with it
#1517 [16:02] <lilybet> trade the diamonds and gold?
#1518 [16:02] <Bob_Sack> use for griefing, personal use
#1519 [16:02] <Morrolan> Lilybet: A free account for yourself.
#1520 [16:02] <Bob_Sack> maybe go robin-hood style and give it to the poor
#1521 [16:03] <Nop0x> any more advice Thoatt?
#1522 [16:03] <lilybet> i have a paid account and unable to use it , beat that
#1523 [16:03] <Disertus> j aimerais changer de mail de contact pour pouvoir recupere le code
#1524 [16:03] <lilybet> anybody wanna buy an account?
#1525 [16:03] <lilybet> half price
#1526 [16:03] <wildfire100> hey guys, im trying to run minecraft on my windows 7 laptop, specs:2.13ghz, 3gb ram, 250g memory. but whenever i try to get onto any map it is ridiculouslylaggy even on render on low, limit framerate ect. I have also tried setting java to priority high, but that wiont work either, could it possibly be because i am running 32bit java on a 64bit system??
#1527 [16:03] <Bob_Sack> lolol
#1528 [16:03] <Thoatt> Nop0x: I'm looking how to force optimus to use the 540 atm...
#1529 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Disertus - Désolé, mais vous aurez besoin pour envoyer un courriel payment@mojang.com
#1530 [16:03] <lilybet> who is poor hear raize ur hand in the air
#1531 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Parlez en anglais
#1532 [16:04] <Nop0x> wildfire100: SAAAAAME PROBLEM LIKE I HAVE
#1533 [16:04] <Nop0x> woops
#1534 [16:04] <VoxelHead> I like TV.
#1535 [16:04] <Nop0x> sry for caps.
#1536 [16:04] <Bob_Sack> im poor
#1537 [16:04] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE poor? feel these nipples!
#1538 [16:04] <wildfire100> Nop0x, did you sort it?
#1539 [16:04] <Bob_Sack> wtf
#1540 [16:04] <Nop0x> im on it :/
#1541 [16:04] <SkiingPenguins> hahaha Voxel
#1542 [16:04] * Bob_Sack feels voxelhead's nipples?
#1542 [16:04] <VoxelHead> DESTRUCTION IS NICE£#^$!£
#1543 [16:04] <Nop0x> Thoatt tries to help me.
#1544 [16:04] * VoxelHead prints Bob_Sack in return
#1544 [16:04] <wildfire100> i used to play mc all the time on this computr perfectly on lnux, but on windows it wont :(
#1545 [16:05] <Bob_Sack> lern2drivers?
#1546 [16:05] <Disertus> Greayvulpine besoins de quoi j ai un autre mail plus sur vu que je ne peu pas recuperer l autre
#1547 [16:05] <VoxelHead> yes, that makes me horny
#1548 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, we can't really fix any account issues here.
#1549 [16:05] <Thoatt> aha! found it
#1550 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Disertus - Je comprends, mais seulement Mojang peut vous aider
#1551 [16:05] <Thoatt> Nop0x: http://netbooknetwork.net/2010/force-nvidia-processor-on-specific-programs-for-laptops-with-nvidia-optimus/
#1552 [16:06] <SkiingPenguins> someone needs to fix v0xel :P
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#1554 [16:06] <mitpatterson> wait, WTF did he say "that makes me horny" hes a bot right?
#1555 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes mib_Voice
#1556 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> er, mitpatterson
#1557 [16:06] <Nop0x> wait, trying. :)
#1558 [16:06] <wildfire100> Nop0x, is it to do wit windows??
#1559 [16:06] <Nop0x> jup im on Win 7 64 bit.
#1560 [16:07] <Disertus> Greayvulpine - j ai deja envoiyer un mail a support@mojang.com mais pas de reponse
#1561 [16:07] <Bob_Sack> mitpatterson: you could say he replaced his floppy drive with a hard drive
#1562 [16:07] <mitpatterson> lol
#1563 [16:07] <Thoatt> wildfire100: He has NVidia Optimus, he has dual video cards, his problem might be that his game is only using onboard.
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#1565 [16:07] <VoxelHead> Bye zaraakinae.
#1566 [16:07] <Disertus> Greayvulpine - si j envoi un mail a payment@mojang.com avec mon id achat et la preuve de payment ca sera bon ?
#1567 [16:07] <VoxelHead> Coffee.
#1568 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Disertus - Oui
#1569 [16:07] <wildfire100> Thoatt, whats onboard?
#1570 [16:08] <mitpatterson> grrr me need iron
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#1572 [16:08] <Disertus> ok je vais faire ca tout de suite merci beaucoup
#1573 [16:08] <lilybet> "Makes coffee and sits down to watch Minecraft: Lets Play Ep.6 - My Treehouse"
#1574 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: give mitpatterson an iron
#1575 [16:08] * VoxelHead gives mitpatterson an iron
#1575 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> De rien
#1576 [16:08] <mitpatterson> lmao
#1577 [16:08] <Disertus> eu en anglais ou en francais le mail ?
#1578 [16:08] <Thoatt> wildfire100: His laptop has two video cards on it. One is on the motherboard itself (onboard) and the other is an actual add-on card.
#1579 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> Thoatt: like a PCMCIA video card? Or one of those crap USB-dongle "vdieo card" things?
#1580 [16:09] <Thoatt> DopeGhoti: no lol.
#1581 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Disertus - Je suis anglais, Je vis aux États-Unis
#1582 [16:10] <Morrolan> Disertus: Peut-être ne utiliser pas le même mot de passe pour Minecraft et votre mails dans la futur. ;)
#1583 [16:10] <Nop0x> Thoatt: You saved my evening.
#1584 [16:10] <Thoatt> Nop0x: it worked?
#1585 [16:10] <Nop0x> oh yeah, it did.
#1586 [16:10] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: He asked wheter to write the mail in french or english. ;)
#1587 [16:10] <Thoatt> Nop0x: Glad I could help :D
#1588 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Oh.. heh
#1589 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Um
#1590 [16:10] <Disertus> lol
#1591 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> English, if he can
#1592 [16:10] <wildfire100> anyone help my problem, above??
#1593 [16:10] <lilybet> later
#1594 [16:10] <Morrolan> Disertus: Est-ce que vous connais quelqun qui parle anglais?
#1595 [16:11] <Morrolan> vous connaissez*
#1596 [16:11] <Nop0x> Thoatt: Thank you very much, m8. :) cu guys.
#1597 [16:11] <lilybet> think of me in my time of... sorrow
#1598 [16:11] <Thoatt> wildfire100: Do you know how to open dxdiag?
#1599 [16:11] <Thoatt> Nop0x: cya :)
#1600 [16:11] <wildfire100> no
#1601 [16:11] <Morrolan> Thoatt: Type "dxdiag" in the start menu.
#1602 [16:11] <wildfire100> im a noob :/
#1603 [16:11] <Disertus> non je connais google translate !!!!
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#1605 [16:11] <Morrolan> Disertus: C'est un idée pas trées bon. ;)
#1606 [16:11] <Thoatt> Morrolan: /I/ know how to do it >.> I was asking him since he is the one who needes help...
#1607 [16:11] <Morrolan> Thoatt: Oh, sorry.
#1608 [16:11] <Thoatt> ??> wildfire100 win/dxdiag
#1609 [16:11] <VoxelHead> wildfire100: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1610 [16:12] <VoxelHead> wildfire100: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1611 [16:12] <Disertus> c'est mieux que rien mais je met les deux en francais et traduit
#1612 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, my french is horrible.. been way too many years since high school.
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#1614 [16:12] <Thoatt> Mon pantalon est en feu!!
#1615 [16:13] <Morrolan> Might be best if someone could help him with that mail. Since google translate is horrible for such things. :/
#1616 [16:13] <Thoatt> :)
#1617 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#1618 [16:13] <Thoatt> brb
#1619 [16:14] <wildfire100> VoxelHead, im in dxdiag, everything as loaded but tere is no option for save log, only save all info, is that ok?
#1620 [16:14] <VoxelHead> Take one little step left.
#1621 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> wildfire100 - That's alright
#1622 [16:14] <wildfire100> thanks
#1623 [16:14] <Thoatt> wildfire100: VoxelHead is a bot lol
#1624 [16:14] <VoxelHead> LIES.
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#1626 [16:14] <Disertus> morroolan si tu a mieux que google translte dit moi je suis ok
#1627 [16:14] <Thoatt> wildfire100: save all info is fine
#1628 [16:14] <Thoatt> brb again >>>
#1629 [16:14] <GH|BlackStar^BN> hello
#1630 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> 'lo GH|BlackStar^BN
#1631 [16:15] <GH|BlackStar^BN> someone can help me?
#1632 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1633 [16:15] <GH|BlackStar^BN> the web multiplayer server
#1634 [16:15] <GH|BlackStar^BN> cant start it
#1635 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> What do you get? Why can't you start it?>
#1636 [16:15] <GH|BlackStar^BN> after hitting start_server i get this
#1637 [16:16] <wildfire100> how do i use pastebin, there is nothing to to paste i saved it in my documnts
#1638 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> wildfire100 - Open the file up in notepad, copy it all, and paste it at pastebin.com
#1639 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#1640 [16:16] <Morrolan> Disetrus: http://pastebin.com/Y99ydwD0
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#1642 [16:16] <GH|BlackStar^BN> Java did not get accepted as an internal or external commando, program or a batchfile
#1643 [16:16] <wildfire100> cool
#1644 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> GH|BlackStar^BN - First off, you're trying to launch the free, classic creative minecraft server, correct?
#1645 [16:17] <Morrolan> C'est pas superbe, mais je doit partir dans quelqun secondes
#1646 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Second, do you have java installed?
#1647 [16:17] <GH|BlackStar^BN> yes the one on your homepage
#1648 [16:17] <GH|BlackStar^BN> I buyed the game but got a brother who likes the free one the most
#1649 [16:17] <wildfire100> http://pastebin.com/K1fpXcba
#1650 [16:17] <GH|BlackStar^BN> its the server file
#1651 [16:17] <GH|BlackStar^BN> wanted to host one were me and my borther can have fun
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#1653 [16:17] <GH|BlackStar^BN> brother
#1654 [16:17] <Morrolan> Well then, have a nice day.
#1655 [16:17] <wildfire100> that ok guys?
#1656 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> GH|BlackStar^BN - Then, okay, looks like java wasn't added to your windows environment variables.
#1657 [16:18] <GH|BlackStar^BN> yes I have java newest version
#1658 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Easy fix, could we take this to PMs?
#1659 [16:18] <Disertus> yes merci morrolan
#1660 [16:18] <GH|BlackStar^BN> sure
#1661 [16:18] <wildfire100> GreyVulpine, is that all ok??
#1662 [16:18] <VoxelHead> that depends. Who's asking?
#1663 [16:19] <Thoatt> wildfire100: That's fine. But your graphics are kinda crappy to play mc though :/
#1664 [16:19] <wildfire100> i was playing fine on linux, just on windows
#1665 [16:19] <wildfire100> so what is causing the ridiculous lag?
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#1667 [16:20] <Disertus> morrolan je ne suis pas passer par paypal mais par carte de credit ca sera pareil non
#1668 [16:20] <wildfire100> ??
#1669 [16:20] <Thoatt> wildfire100: not sure =/
#1670 [16:21] <ALT3RNAT1V3> so i just bought a servercraft.co server and it says something about McMyAdmin how do i get it set up?
#1671 [16:21] <wildfire100> this is annoying, i rly need minecraft, mod on a server :/
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#1673 [16:24] <wildfire100> anyone got any ideas on ow to fix my problem????
#1674 [16:24] <Bob_Sack> get a new computer
#1675 [16:24] <wildfire100> other than that
#1676 [16:24] <Thoatt> You could go back to using linux if you had to =/
#1677 [16:24] <Bob_Sack> get a new graphics card
#1678 [16:25] <wildfire100> would game booster do anything?
#1679 [16:27] <wildfire100> ???
#1680 [16:27] <Thoatt> probably not..
#1681 [16:27] <VoxelHead> mmm TheReddeH
#1682 [16:28] <wildfire100> so is it all down to my graphics card?
#1683 [16:29] <Bob_Sack> yes
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#1685 [16:29] <wildfire100> what graphics card do i need to play minecraft well??
#1686 [16:30] <Bob_Sack> do u use a laptop?
#1687 [16:30] <Thoatt> Bob_Sack: yes.
#1688 [16:30] <wildfire100> yes acer aspire
#1689 [16:30] <Bob_Sack> then get a new computer
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#1691 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> It's not really possible to update a graphics card on a laptop
#1692 [16:30] <Thoatt> wildfire100: Or, you could just switch back to using linux =/
#1693 [16:31] <wildfire100> dammit, i dont understand how io was able to play minecraft fine on ubuntu but not linux
#1694 [16:31] <Thoatt> windows? lol
#1695 [16:31] <wildfire100> yh lol
#1696 [16:32] <wildfire100> cba to duel boot
#1697 [16:32] <wildfire100> i use windows for oter stuff aswell
#1698 [16:33] <VoxelHead> Bye dduchaine.
#1699 [16:33] <wildfire100> thanks for your help guys, bye
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#1702 [16:41] <danny> quick question - where are minecraft worlds stored in now?
#1703 [16:42] <Thoatt> A format called MCRegion.
#1704 [16:42] <Thoatt> well, the same format MCRegion uses.
#1705 [16:42] <Thoatt> Same location though.
#1706 [16:42] <danny> oh ok thanks :)
#1707 [16:43] <Thoatt> np
#1708 [16:43] <Kpd> Quick question. What is the best Creative server software for use on a server running Ubuntu Server Edition?
#1709 [16:44] <Thoatt> oooo.... that one I'm not sure of...
#1710 [16:44] <Thoatt> I don't have too much experience with creative servers
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#1712 [16:45] <Thoatt> I'd probably just use the server software on the minecraft.net site.
#1713 [16:45] <Kpd> I was hoping to use one of the custom servers that had some more functionality, like MCForge or something.
#1714 [16:45] <Kpd> I was trying to actually find their IRC channel but couldn't find it.
#1715 [16:45] <Kpd> Ha.
#1716 [16:46] <pierpaf> for classic?
#1717 [16:46] <pierpaf> usemycraft
#1718 [16:46] <Kpd> Yeah, classic, not creative. I keep getting those words mixed up.
#1719 [16:46] <pierpaf> creative and classic is the same
#1720 [16:47] <Thoatt> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=100132
#1721 [16:47] <Kpd> Ah. I thought so, but someone said there are 'creative' servers for the beta, so I just started saying classic.
#1722 [16:47] <Thoatt> link for MyCraft
#1723 [16:47] <Kpd> Thanks Thoatt
#1724 [16:47] * GreyVulpine has only set up mclawl.. but there's tons of custom servers out there for creative
#1724 [16:47] <pierpaf> mc-mycraft.com
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#1726 [16:47] <Darkages009> hello
#1727 [16:48] <Chr|s> hi
#1728 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1729 [16:48] <Bob_Sack> mcforge is the most intuitive i've used
#1730 [16:48] <Darkages009> i need some assistance
#1731 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1732 [16:48] <Kpd> GreyVulpine: I had tried setting up MCLawl, but in the config file, when I set 'console-only' to true, it still tried to open up a GUI which doesn't work cause my server is command-line based.
#1733 [16:48] <Kpd> Bob_Sack: I tried MCForge too but had the same problem as MCLawl.
#1734 [16:48] <Darkages009> when i try to connect it always crashed when i use the downloaded version it wont even get past the login screen says couldnt connect to minecraft.net
#1735 [16:49] <Darkages009> and when i try on the web version java just crashes
#1736 [16:50] <Darkages009> any clues i have already deleted my .minecraft file
#1737 [16:50] <Darkages009> i have reset my computer and java nothing
#1738 [16:50] <Chr|s> ?? mc.net/up
#1739 [16:50] <VoxelHead> mc.net/up: There are presently no problems that we are aware of with Minecraft, its web site, or it's authentication server(s).
#1740 [16:51] <Chr|s> Darkages009: what version of Java do you have?
#1741 [16:51] <Darkages009> latest version
#1742 [16:52] <Chr|s> trying to play single player or connect to server?
#1743 [16:52] <Darkages009> yea tried both didnt work just got a java crash screen i am uploading a screen cap now
#1744 [16:52] <pierpaf> he cantevenget pass the minecraft auth..
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#1746 [16:53] <Chr|s> okiseethis
#1747 [16:53] <Darkages009> what causes this?
#1748 [16:53] <pierpaf> my psace bar broken
#1749 [16:54] <Chr|s> Darkages009: not sure exactly, first time installing?
#1750 [16:54] <Darkages009> http://www.digital-dark-ages.info/images/minecraft.jpg
#1751 [16:54] <Darkages009> no it worked up till recently
#1752 [16:55] <Darkages009> thats the screen cap by the way
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#1754 [16:56] <Jackson413> !check 68.45.3.94
#1755 [16:56] <Chr|s> Im not really sure what else to try, you said you deleted the .minecraft folder
#1756 [16:56] <Jackson413> yay!
#1757 [16:56] <Jackson413> chris need a hand?
#1758 [16:57] <Darkages009> yea it might just be my laptop i dont really play on here that much i just only have this right now because im stuck in bed from surgery
#1759 [16:57] <Chr|s> Jackson413: no I don't, im helping someone
#1760 [16:57] <Jackson413> dark how much ram?
#1761 [16:57] <Chr|s> Darkages009: I see
#1762 [16:57] <Darkages009> let me delete my .minecraft again
#1763 [16:58] <Chr|s> run ccleaner too if you have it it helps
#1764 [16:58] <Jackson413> chris are you stuck?
#1765 [16:58] <Chr|s> ?? win/.minecraft
#1766 [16:58] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1767 [16:58] <Chr|s> Jackson413: No, I already told you that I am helping someone lol
#1768 [16:59] <Jackson413> no I was gonna provide help if you are at a loss for anymore advice
#1769 [16:59] <Darkages009> let me try ccleaner i didnt think about that
#1770 [16:59] <Chr|s> ?? win/reinst
#1771 [16:59] <Chr|s> oops
#1772 [16:59] <Jackson413> lol
#1773 [16:59] <VoxelHead> fool
#1774 [16:59] <Thoatt> ??> win/reinst
#1775 [17:00] <Chr|s> that too
#1776 [17:00] <Thoatt> ??> Darkages009 win/reinst
#1777 [17:00] <VoxelHead> Darkages009: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1778 [17:00] <VoxelHead> Darkages009: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1779 [17:00] <Chr|s> im used to simple triggers lol
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#1781 [17:02] <Darkages009> still didnt work
#1782 [17:03] <Darkages009> tried deleting the .minecraft folder again and the ccleaner and both didnt work
#1783 [17:03] <Kpd> Hey, does anyone know if there is an IRC help channel for MCLawl or MCForge? Or anyone on here that is fairly experienced with them?
#1784 [17:04] <Chr|s> Darkages009: hmm
#1785 [17:04] <Darkages009> this is weird i must admit
#1786 [17:04] <Darkages009> http://www.digital-dark-ages.info/images/minecraft.jpg
#1787 [17:05] <Darkages009> this is the screen i get i dont know why
#1788 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Oh, input == null
#1789 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Windows machine, correct?
#1790 [17:05] <Darkages009> whats that?
#1791 [17:05] <Darkages009> yes
#1792 [17:05] <Darkages009> im running windows vista 32 bit
#1793 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> You've got an (!) exclamation mark in your windows username
#1794 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Java doesn't like that.
#1795 [17:06] <Darkages009> lol dont tell me thats the problem
#1796 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> To get around this, only solution right now, is to make a new windows account without an (!) in it
#1797 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> It is
#1798 [17:06] <stevei> quit
#1799 [17:06] <Chr|s> GreyVulpine: hmm I wouldn't of ever guessed that lol
#1800 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> It's a fairly common problem, has been since I got here.
#1801 [17:06] <Darkages009> that is really weird
#1802 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> But, now you know
#1803 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Try it, make a new windows account
#1804 [17:07] <Darkages009> why didnt it do that in the first place because i have playied minecraft on here multiple times
#1805 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Same machine? Same user account?
#1806 [17:07] <Darkages009> yea
#1807 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. that's weird.
#1808 [17:07] <Darkages009> still not working :/
#1809 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> You made an entirely new windows account?
#1810 [17:08] <Darkages009> no i just renamed mine
#1811 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Won't work
#1812 [17:08] <Darkages009> ok gimmie a minute
#1813 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Even renaming it, doesn't rename the user's profile folder
#1814 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Limitation of windows
#1815 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Your profile folder in windows will still have the (!) in it
#1816 [17:09] <Darkages009> oh
#1817 [17:11] <Chr|s> how did you know the exclamation point was in his name?
#1818 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> It's a fairly common problem.
#1819 [17:11] <Chr|s> ahh
#1820 [17:11] <Chr|s> because I didn't notice any username or exclamation point...except the error null!
#1821 [17:11] <Thoatt> Also, GreyVulpine is a wizard...
#1822 [17:11] <Chr|s> lol
#1823 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Only reason I knew about it, was I googled it first time I encountered it here.. way back in sept or oct when I started here.
#1824 [17:12] <Chr|s> ahh
#1825 [17:12] <Chr|s> interesting
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#1829 [17:15] <Darkages> hello
#1830 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1831 [17:16] <Darkages> that fixed it
#1832 [17:16] <Darkages> thanks
#1833 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sure thing
#1834 [17:16] <Darkages> have a nice rest of the day
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#1836 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> And to you as well.
#1837 [17:16] <CrankCo> hii
#1838 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1839 [17:16] <CrankCo> how do i make a bot for my minecraft server?
#1840 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> CrankCo - That all depends on what kind of bot you're talking about
#1841 [17:17] <CrankCo> #chanelname_BOT
#1842 [17:17] <CrankCo> obseving bot
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#1844 [17:17] <CrankCo> i gues
#1845 [17:18] <CrankCo> observing*
#1846 [17:18] <dopeghoti> so basically something that sits on an IRC channel and barf out whatever appears on the server console?
#1847 [17:18] <bokaholic> lemon-rev: You there sir?
#1848 [17:18] <VoxelHead> i'll need to look that one up bokaholic
#1849 [17:18] <CrankCo> ya
#1850 [17:19] * bokaholic hugs Vox. :B
#1850 [17:19] <VoxelHead> ~oef~
#1851 [17:19] <CrankCo> and 2nd question..:
#1852 [17:19] <dopeghoti> CrankCo: the easiest way is to write one yourself that just watches the server.log file for message.
#1853 [17:19] <CrankCo> how do i make a huge map, flat
#1854 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Is this for classic or beta?
#1855 [17:19] <CrankCo> no mountains/water etc.. just flat field
#1856 [17:19] <Thoatt> ok so... Just make either a stdio wrapper, or a log parser and make it send info to an irc channel
#1857 [17:19] <CrankCo> is it: /newlvl ... ... ... .. flat
#1858 [17:20] <CrankCo> (classic)
#1859 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> CrankCo - Use this
#1860 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1340
#1861 [17:20] <CrankCo> ty :)
#1862 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> It's the link I send to everybody who requests a flat map for minecraft
#1863 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> classic
#1864 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> As for an MC classic IRC bot, there's plenty of custom classic servers that have IRC-integration built in
#1865 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> MClawl is one I'm familiar with, but I'm sure others have it as well
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#1868 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. that's not good.. I'm reading 4.8V on my 12V rail.
#1869 [17:25] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1869 [17:26] <mitpatterson> hey, any ideas, i got the .exe server set up on my server 2008(i don't feel like messing with the .jar) i turned off the firewall, go back to my computer, enter the IP, connect, it says loggin in, then "Connection Lost, Time out" its just running on the local network, 99% sure the router isn't blocking it, ideas?
#1870 [17:26] <Thoatt> That's definatly an incorrect reading lol
#1871 [17:26] <Thoatt> mitpatterson: Are you connecting to the internal ip? or the external ip?
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#1873 [17:27] <mitpatterson> interal
#1874 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> mitpatterson - Are you sure there's no other firewalls on the system?
#1875 [17:27] <mitpatterson> 192.168.2.15
#1876 [17:27] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :O
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#1878 [17:27] <VoiceofTreason> Hi again
#1879 [17:27] <mitpatterson> the only firewall on the server 08 was the built in windows one(its a very recentt install of server 08)
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#1881 [17:27] <VoiceofTreason> Grey do you have a minute?
#1882 [17:28] <SevFTW> Guys I keep losing connection from my server, but everyone else is still on, now it won't let me log in :(
#1883 [17:28] <SevFTW> anyone know?
#1884 [17:28] <mitpatterson> and on the consele on the server it does the "preparigins spawn area" and then "done"
#1885 [17:28] <mitpatterson> so that should be god
#1886 [17:28] <mitpatterson> good*
#1887 [17:29] <VoiceofTreason> Can someone else help me with a port fowarding issue?
#1888 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, little bit busy at the moment.
#1889 [17:30] <VoiceofTreason> Dude, I understand. I just thought I'd ask you though because of the help you had given earlier ;)
#1890 [17:31] <VoiceofTreason> The gift that keeps on giving?
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#1892 [17:33] <SevFTW> Ok guys, I get this error in console: http://pastebin.com/hpvD3naD
#1893 [17:33] <pierpaf> someone here know how essential chat plugin works?
#1894 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> VoiceofTreason - Alright, I'm back. Sorry, had to attack my computer with a multimeter. Voltage monitoring program was reporting back a bad reading
#1895 [17:35] <SevFTW> anybody at all know?
#1896 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> What did you need?
#1897 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> SevFTW - That error really doesn't say anything, just that the connection was lost
#1898 [17:35] <SevFTW> well it ALWAYS happens
#1899 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> pierpaf - Try #essentials
#1900 [17:35] <SevFTW> Constantly...
#1901 [17:35] <pierpaf> kk
#1902 [17:36] <SevFTW> I can log in about once or twice a day...
#1903 [17:36] <SevFTW> and it's my own server
#1904 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I see that.
#1905 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Um, all your firewall settings are configured properly?
#1906 [17:36] <VoiceofTreason> Grey I setup the virtual server instead on port triggering on my router, firewall still off, no virus protection on...now instead of people getting connection refused they are getting timeouts?
#1907 [17:37] <SevFTW> umm I believe so...
#1908 [17:37] <SevFTW> We just got a new modem/router
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#1910 [17:37] <Rabbit> halli hallo
#1911 [17:37] <Rabbit> Noch jemand da?
#1912 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> VoiceofTreason - Timeouts? What firewall were you running?
#1913 [17:37] <dopeghoti> 'lo
#1914 [17:37] <VoxelHead> a wall
#1915 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#1916 [17:37] <Thoatt> of fire
#1917 [17:37] <VoxelHead> fine
#1918 [17:38] <Rabbit> Hab ne frage bezüglich minecraft server und ubuntu
#1919 [17:38] <VoiceofTreason> Standard windows firewall, nothing more but I have it turned off right now, will that not rule it out?
#1920 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Ah, if it's just windows firewall, then turning it off will be just fine.
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#1922 [17:39] <dopeghoti> Fragen Sie, und koennen wir, wir sollen Ihr ein Antwort geben.
#1923 [17:39] <VoiceofTreason> my virtual server uses my private ip and all port values are 25565
#1924 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, ok..
#1925 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> !check 68.237.131.227
#1926 [17:40] <VoiceofTreason> http://download.comtrend.com/CT5361T_A3.3.pdf My manual again
#1927 [17:40] <VoiceofTreason> what ip is that?
#1928 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> That was your IP
#1929 [17:40] <Rabbit> Okay.. My Question: If I set up server in ubuntu i type: java ... minecraft_server.jar & exit.. It works and the server is starting in background and allow me to close putty window
#1930 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> What kind of connection is this on?
#1931 [17:40] <VoiceofTreason> In my router it says use private which is 192.168 etc right?
#1932 [17:40] <Rabbit> but how can i get this server session back???
#1933 [17:41] <CrankCo> how can i make my friend an Admin?
#1934 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Right VoiceofTreason
#1935 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> CrankCo - Add their name to admins.txt
#1936 [17:41] <dopeghoti> Rabbit: use Screen to run your server, and you can reattack later.
#1937 [17:41] <CrankCo> no not in minecraft lol
#1938 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> or do 'op theirname' in the server console
#1939 [17:41] <dopeghoti> er, reattach
#1940 [17:41] <CrankCo> in IRC
#1941 [17:41] <CrankCo> :p
#1942 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Oh, I don't know.
#1943 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the server
#1944 [17:41] <Rabbit> Well.. screen is install.. A short info how to use would be nice
#1945 [17:41] <Thoatt> Rabbit: or if you don't care about it, just nohup it
#1946 [17:42] <Thoatt> screen java server.jar
#1947 [17:42] <CrankCo> no 1 knows cmd for make admin in IRC channel?
#1948 [17:42] <Thoatt> just add 'screen ' before the command
#1949 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> just do /mode #yourchannel +o theirname
#1950 [17:42] <Thoatt> CrankCo: /op [name]
#1951 [17:42] <Thoatt> OH
#1952 [17:42] <Rabbit> ah okay.. and then how do i get back to session
#1953 [17:42] <Thoatt> in irc ;p;
#1954 [17:42] <Thoatt> lol*
#1955 [17:42] <Thoatt> Rabbit: screen -r
#1956 [17:42] <Thoatt> brb
#1957 [17:42] <VoiceofTreason> check it now XD
#1958 [17:42] <Rabbit> okay
#1959 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> !check 68.237.131.227
#1960 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Whoa, what'd you change?
#1961 [17:44] <CrankCo> ty
#1962 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Actually, I can't connect via my client VoiceofTreason. Is the server up?
#1963 [17:47] <VoiceofTreason> My guinea pig was given the old ip pre-reboot of the router
#1964 [17:47] <VoiceofTreason> your query made me realize it had changed
#1965 [17:47] <VoiceofTreason> I am unsure how to test it without a 2nd person, also that is no free way to make my server a static ip is there?
#1966 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> dyndns.org
#1967 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> free DNS service
#1968 [17:48] <Thoatt> internal static ip: yes, external static ip: you'd have to take with your isp
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#1970 [17:49] <OneVoice> Wow, that may have been bad
#1971 [17:50] <bokaholic> So, I'm curious on how BA a computer has to be in order to run a server for Minecraft.. Not the server AND game, but just the server
#1972 [17:50] <bokaholic> +? :T
#1973 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> BA?
#1974 [17:50] <OneVoice> Grey, I realized I had given the wrong IP once you did your query
#1975 [17:50] <bokaholic> Badass.
#1976 [17:50] * bokaholic giggles.
#1976 [17:50] <OneVoice> I am unsure how to test it without a 2nd person, also that is no free way to make my server a static ip is there?
#1977 [17:50] * GreyVulpine is so confused right now..
#1977 [17:50] <Thoatt> as am I lol
#1978 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> You're VoiceofTreason?
#1979 [17:51] <OneVoice> yes, it wouldnt let me login as voiceoftreason
#1980 [17:51] <bokaholic> Hmm...
#1981 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Ah, yeah
#1982 [17:51] <Thoatt> bokaholic: Not too hardcore... for ther server it's not bad at all.. 1-1.5 gb memeory, a decent processor.
#1983 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> <Thoatt> internal static ip: yes, external static ip: you'd have to take with your isp
#1984 [17:51] <bokaholic> Thanks.
#1985 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> My suggestion for a 'static' external IP, would be to go to dyndns.org
#1986 [17:51] <Thoatt> Or you could use a dynamic dns service like http://www.dyndns.com
#1987 [17:51] <OneVoice> So in your experience have you ever got it to be so?
#1988 [17:52] <Thoatt> org*
#1989 [17:52] <Thoatt> It's a PITA to get a static IP from an isp..
#1990 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> If you could clarify, which kind of static IP you were referring to
#1991 [17:52] <dopeghoti> Not really; more of a PITW (wallet)
#1992 [17:52] <Thoatt> w = a for some lol
#1993 [17:52] <Thoatt> hookers mostly.
#1994 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Did you want a static IP for your router to forward to?
#1995 [17:52] <dopeghoti> If you sign up for a business account they'll generally give you static IP
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#1997 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Or a static IP for others to access you from the outside?
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#1999 [17:53] <OneVoice> yes, so users dont have to switch everytime I have to reset my router
#2000 [17:53] <OneVoice> external
#2001 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Then, dyndns.org and the like.
#2002 [17:53] <dopeghoti> OneVoice: Dynamic DNS is probably the easiest route
#2003 [17:53] <Thoatt> OneVoice: Use a dyanmic dns service then
#2004 [17:53] <beefsugar> hey getting Unhandled Exception: System.IO.IOException: Sharing violation on path /home/lcs/minecraft/minecraft_server.pid when starting server... any help?
#2005 [17:53] <Kimax> 1. portforward your own router to the internal ip the mc-server is running on... 2. check in the properties, that the port number there matches the port you forwarded... 3. find your external ip www.myip.dk and use that...
#2006 [17:53] <Thoatt> bokaholic: Make sure that folder has the correct permissions
#2007 [17:54] <dopeghoti> beefsugar: sounds like more than one server trying to run and access the same world at the smae time.
#2008 [17:54] <Kimax> sometimes it helps to type in the ip and port for connecting
#2009 [17:54] <beefsugar> already checked it does
#2010 [17:54] <beefsugar> and rebooted server alreadfy to make sure there were no other servers running
#2011 [17:54] <OneVoice> Hey guys been a great help
#2012 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Glad to be of service.
#2013 [17:55] <OneVoice> One more though, is it a common problem for my router to need a reboot after a user gets on my mcserver?
#2014 [17:55] <Thoatt> yw OneVoice
#2015 [17:55] <dopeghoti> beefsugar: pastebin the output of the following: sudo netstat -plnt; sudo -ls -la /home/lcs/minecraft/
#2016 [17:55] <Thoatt> OneVoice: no.
#2017 [17:55] <Kimax> like im using 5190 for MC... dont ask why... but my server runs on ***.***.***.***:5190
#2018 [17:55] <SkiingPenguins> could just say port 5190
#2019 [17:55] <dopeghoti> Kimax: if you're using a nonstandart port, of course people will have to punch in the port after the host.
#2020 [17:55] <Thoatt> derp lol
#2021 [17:56] <OneVoice> Weird, I lost connection like 1-2 mins after a user loggedin
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#2023 [17:56] <Kimax> dopeghoti but sometimes it helps to type in the port even if its default...
#2024 [17:56] <Kimax> tryed it once...
#2025 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> That.. may be an issue with minecraft's netcode, your network card, or possibly your modem/router
#2026 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> I know the connection instability of hosting minecraft has been reported before
#2027 [17:56] <Thoatt> +1
#2028 [17:57] <beefsugar> heres the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/8RSr6ExZ
#2029 [17:57] <Kimax> GreyVulpine by me probably
#2030 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> No, sorry, that was for OneVoice
#2031 [17:58] <Thoatt> beefsugar: you are running the server on 25567?
#2032 [17:58] <dopeghoti> beefsugar: looks like the second command failed, but it appears there are two Minecraft servers already running on your mahine
#2033 [17:58] <dopeghoti> ports 25565 and 25567 are un yse by java
#2034 [17:58] <Thoatt> kill 7791
#2035 [17:58] <dopeghoti> are in use even
#2036 [17:58] <Thoatt> :)
#2037 [17:58] <VoxelHead> =)
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#2039 [17:58] <Kimax> on my "server" running XP, the NIC crashes when i try to log in on a MC-server running on it... so i use my own computer to host my server
#2040 [17:59] <dopeghoti> Kimax: "the NIC crashes" whaa?
#2041 [17:59] * GreyVulpine nods at dopeghoti
#2041 [17:59] <Kimax> yeah...
#2042 [17:59] <Thoatt> dopeghoti: same thing happens to kealper's server when there is a shitton of traffic
#2043 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> One such report can be found here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/smp_server_destabilizes_internet_connection
#2044 [17:59] <Kealper> dopeghoti: the NIC driver actually crashes from a buffer overflow on the tx
#2045 [18:00] <OneVoice> I think that the mcserver is causes my connection to crash
#2046 [18:00] <beefsugar> k i'll try that
#2047 [18:00] <Kimax> after trying to login, i cant even see the website running on it, or see it on teamviewer
#2048 [18:00] <OneVoice> is causing*
#2049 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> OneVoice - Most likely, yes
#2050 [18:00] <bokaholic> I thought maybe a new router would allow me to work the server and have it up. But still nothing.
#2051 [18:00] <OneVoice> happened x2 now
#2052 [18:00] <bokaholic> 4 days of trying is going a little too far. I totally give up.
#2053 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> MC's netcode needs a bit of work.
#2054 [18:01] <Thoatt> bokaholic: What's the issue you are having?
#2055 [18:01] <beefsugar> k i killed all java proccesses...changed port back to 25565 and still getting error
#2056 [18:01] <Kimax> Kealper do you think a new NIC would help my server running MC-server?
#2057 [18:01] <Kealper> Kimax: yes
#2058 [18:01] <Kimax> ill try that some day
#2059 [18:02] <Thoatt> lol
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#2061 [18:02] <Kealper> that's my view on my server too :P
#2062 [18:02] <beefsugar> any help?
#2063 [18:02] <Thoatt> I can hear the exasperated sighs of Kimax from here.
#2064 [18:02] <Kealper> eventually i'll get a new NIC...eventually...lol
#2065 [18:02] <bokaholic> Thoatt: Timing out. No one can connect. Ports are correctly forwarded and both lemon-rev and Kealper are boggled. There's not much else that can be done. it's just not going to work.
#2066 [18:02] <dopeghoti> beefsugar: pastebin this now: sudo lsof minecraft_server.pid
#2067 [18:02] <dopeghoti> sorry, not that
#2068 [18:02] * GreyVulpine stabs Kealper's server with a 64-bit redstone CPU, and watches it crash and burn
#2068 [18:02] <dopeghoti> beefsugar: pastebin this now: sudo lsof | grep minecraft_server.pid
#2069 [18:02] <bokaholic> No biggy. I'll just hunt someone down with a server and ask if they will host it for me and allow me ops/admin on it is all. x.x
#2070 [18:03] <Thoatt> bokaholic: linux or windows?
#2071 [18:03] <bokaholic> Windows.
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#2073 [18:03] <Thoatt> teamviewer?
#2074 [18:03] <VoxelHead> no, but it does make me horny and you're sitting in it right now
#2075 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2076 [18:03] <bokaholic> Teamwhatwhat? o.o
#2077 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> !wiki teamviewer
#2078 [18:03] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeamViewer
#2079 [18:03] <GreyBot> TeamViewer is a computer software package for remote control, desktop sharing, and file transfer between computers. The software operates with the Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. It is possible to access a machine running TeamViewer with a web browser. While the main focus of the application is remote control of computers, collaboration and presentation features
#2080 [18:03] <GreyBot> are included.
#2081 [18:03] <beefsugar> i'm getting no output from sudo lsof | grep minecraft_server.pid
#2082 [18:04] <dopeghoti> beefsugar: okay, good
#2083 [18:04] <Thoatt> brb food
#2084 [18:04] <Kimax> www.teamviewer.com
#2085 [18:04] * bokaholic waits and reads.
#2085 [18:04] <Kimax> great tool
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#2087 [18:04] <bokaholic> We can try that, sure.. Why the Hell not?
#2088 [18:05] <dopeghoti> now pastebin the putout of this: sudo "ls -la /home/lcs/minecraft/"
#2089 [18:06] <Thoatt> bokaholic: run it and pm me the id/pass
#2090 [18:06] <Thoatt> :)
#2091 [18:06] <VoxelHead> =]
#2092 [18:07] <beefsugar> http://pastebin.com/Nbvg2uQ0
#2093 [18:08] <dopeghoti> beefsugar: Looks like only the lcs user can write to that file; is the Minecraft server being run as that user?
#2094 [18:08] <beefsugar> yes
#2095 [18:09] <dopeghoti> try removing that file.. "sudo rm -f /home/lcs/minecraft/minecraft_server.pid"
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#2097 [18:09] <Jackson413> is any part of minecraft down?
#2098 [18:09] <dopeghoti> if that doesn't do the trick, I would then try running the server without any of the mods.
#2099 [18:09] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: not that I am aware of.
#2100 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#2101 [18:09] <beefsugar> yeah thank you that worked
#2102 [18:09] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2103 [18:10] <Jackson413> hmm
#2104 [18:10] <dopeghoti> beefsugar: splendid. That'll be $8 (:
#2105 [18:10] <Jackson413> well this server im tring to join
#2106 [18:10] <beefsugar> haha
#2107 [18:10] <Jackson413> it is saying logging in then times out
#2108 [18:10] <Jackson413> anything that im causing?
#2109 [18:10] <Thoatt> You laugh because you think dopeghoti is kidding >.>
#2110 [18:10] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: have you tried any other servers?
#2111 [18:10] <Jackson413> yeah
#2112 [18:10] <dopeghoti> Thoatt: well, I am, but that hasn't stopped people from sending me money
#2113 [18:11] <VoxelHead> bye beefsugar
#2114 [18:11] <Jackson413> im admin on this server tho
#2115 [18:11] <dopeghoti> Jackson413: even so.
#2116 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Try... smp.shadow-craft.net
#2117 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> If you can connect to that, then your server is most likely down.
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#2119 [18:11] <Jackson413> i get in
#2120 [18:12] <Jackson413> well that doesnt make sense though if it is down
#2121 [18:12] <Jackson413> i got in that server
#2122 [18:12] <Jackson413> but the server im having problems with i get past "connecting to server"
#2123 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Right.. servers aren't centralized. Many people run seperate servers
#2124 [18:12] <Jackson413> and it seizes up on "logging in"
#2125 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Then that particular server has some sort of problem.
#2126 [18:13] <Jackson413> if it was down wouldnt it seize up on "connecting to server"
#2127 [18:13] <Jackson413> and look at this
#2128 [18:13] <Jackson413> !check 68.45.3.94
#2129 [18:13] <Jackson413> there is something up
#2130 [18:13] <Jackson413> and i dont understand it
#2131 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> All that means is that AuBot can get a TCP reply from that IP address
#2132 [18:13] <Jackson413> oh
#2133 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't do anything other than that
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#2135 [18:14] <Jackson413> that checks like ports and stuff then?
#2136 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2137 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> All it does is make a port 25565 TCP connection to that ip address.
#2138 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Or whatever port MC is running on/specified
#2139 [18:14] <Jackson413> ahh that used to be my favorite trolling server too
#2140 [18:14] <Jackson413> i was all like in the middle of a sentence
#2141 [18:15] <Jackson413> and i was like im jewish
#2142 [18:15] <Jackson413> and then i was jk
#2143 [18:15] <dopeghoti> I.. don't even know what that was supposed to mean.
#2144 [18:16] * Thoatt is so lost atm
#2144 [18:16] <Jackson413> lol
#2145 [18:16] <Jackson413> nm
#2146 [18:16] * bokaholic shares a map with Thoatt. n.n
#2146 [18:17] <Thoatt> herpderp.
#2147 [18:17] * Thoatt doesn't pay very good attention
#2147 [18:17] * VoxelHead doesn't Thoatt
#2147 [18:18] * bokaholic turns the map right-side-up. o.o
#2147 [18:18] <dopeghoti> VoxelHead: what do you?
#2148 [18:18] <VoxelHead> Cold.
#2149 [18:18] <Kealper> lol
#2150 [18:18] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead
#2150 [18:18] <VoxelHead> Thankie.
#2151 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Welcome.
#2152 [18:18] <VoxelHead> \o/
#2153 [18:22] <VoxelHead> I like them =D.
#2154 [18:23] <Jackson413> can you make voxel speak
#2155 [18:23] <Jackson413> is someone making it speak?
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#2157 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> It's got a random AI script
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#2160 [18:26] <dopeghoti> For the ${COUNT}th time, it's genuine stupidity, not artifiial intelligence (:
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#2163 [18:27] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
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#2164 [18:30] <Zoroark> Voxel, decloak
#2165 [18:30] * VoxelHead shifts back into view
#2165 [18:30] <Zoroark> Voxel, decloak
#2166 [18:30] <VoxelHead> Already decloaked, sir
#2167 [18:31] <Zoroark> Voxel, disable cloak
#2168 [18:34] <aetherian> vox, cloak
#2169 [18:34] * VoxelHead shimmers and disappears from view...
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#2170 [18:36] <SkiingPenguins> vox, get me a cookie
#2171 [18:36] <aetherian> vox, eat a cookie
#2172 [18:36] * VoxelHead eats a cookie
#2172 [18:37] <SkiingPenguins> :/ no sharing?
#2173 [18:37] <aetherian> haha
#2174 [18:37] <VoxelHead> Stop snivelling little worm monkey.
#2175 [18:37] <oldtopman> VoxelHead, fire all weapons on SkiingPenguins
#2176 [18:37] * SkiingPenguins hides
#2176 [18:37] <oldtopman> VoxelHead, fire all weapons at SkiingPenguins
#2177 [18:37] <VoxelHead> I haven't got any 'all weapons' ... I think they ran out.
#2178 [18:37] * SkiingPenguins peeks back at #minecrafthelp
#2178 [18:37] <oldtopman> VoxelHead, Reload
#2179 [18:39] <xales> VoxelHead: test
#2180 [18:39] <xales> :<
#2181 [18:39] * xales stabs dopeghoti in the eyeball
#2181 [18:40] * oldtopman ducks behind a bedrock wall
#2181 [18:40] * xales is using WorldEdit super pickaxe, and makes quick work of your wall
#2181 [18:40] * SkiingPenguins yells CHEATER!
#2181 [18:41] * aetherian hides behind aubot
#2181 [18:41] <aetherian> uh oh
#2182 [18:41] * xales boxes SkiingPenguins into an inescapable bedrock prison, due to SkiingPenguins' lack of cheats
#2182 [18:41] * SkiingPenguins uses logic to get out of prison
#2182 [18:42] * oldtopman uses diamond grenade and kills us all
#2182 [18:43] * SkiingPenguins respawns
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#2183 [18:44] * SkiingPenguins pokes xales
#2183 [18:45] * xales is poked
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#2187 [19:04] <dopeghoti> xales: why does my eye hurt with such painful.. pain?
#2188 [19:04] <xales> dopeghoti: VoxelHead continues to ignore me :|
#2189 [19:04] <xales> VoxelHead: test
#2190 [19:04] <aetherian> vox, eat xales
#2191 [19:04] <xales> >:|
#2192 [19:04] * VoxelHead eats xales
#2192 [19:04] <aetherian> haha
#2193 [19:04] <aetherian> works for me :)
#2194 [19:08] <dopeghoti> xales: you are not on any ignore lists
#2195 [19:09] <dopeghoti> *is baffles*
#2196 [19:09] <dopeghoti> er, baffled
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#2198 [19:09] <Branbo> Anyone know a simple mod that a say like "/addwaypoint mine" and when i say "/teleport mine" it goes to the waypoint, or something like that? '-'
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#2200 [19:11] <aetherian> xales: he's developed wisdom
#2201 [19:12] <xales> Branbo: Bukkit?
#2202 [19:14] <user> how do I register my nickname so I can talk on the minecraft channel? I'm completely new to IRC?
#2203 [19:14] <VoxelHead> C to the I A O
#2204 [19:15] <dopeghoti> ??>> user irc
#2205 [19:15] <Branbo> But, everywhere i read about bukkit, its says its not finished yet. '-'
#2206 [19:15] <user> ah cheers
#2207 [19:15] <xales> Branbo: It's not finished, but it works fine
#2208 [19:15] <xales> user: You won't be able to register your current name, as it is already taken
#2209 [19:15] <xales> you should pick one other than 'user'
#2210 [19:17] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#2211 [19:18] <Thoatt> brb
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#2213 [19:22] <aetherian> VoxelHead: here I am
#2214 [19:22] <dopeghoti> vox, activate ignoring-xales detectors
#2215 [19:22] * VoxelHead scans #minecrafthelp
#2215 [19:22] <VoxelHead> dopeghoti: That reads as 9751 watts.
#2216 [19:22] <Thoatt> ok back
#2217 [19:22] <dopeghoti> That's.. a lot of watts.
#2218 [19:22] <aetherian> yeah'
#2219 [19:22] <xales> D:
#2220 [19:22] <aetherian> it's...
#2221 [19:22] <aetherian> over 9000
#2222 [19:22] <Thoatt> WHAT?!?!?!? 9000!?!??
#2223 [19:22] <dopeghoti> 9.56 jogowatts is enough to time travel eight times!
#2224 [19:23] <dopeghoti> s/jog/jig/
#2225 [19:23] <aetherian> what
#2226 [19:23] <aetherian> you jog so fast you slingshot around the sun
#2227 [19:23] <Thoatt> 9.68...
#2228 [19:23] <Thoatt> 1.21*8=9.68
#2229 [19:23] <Thoatt> lol
#2230 [19:24] <aetherian> ow
#2231 [19:24] <aetherian> math
#2232 [19:25] <dopeghoti> Thoatt: yes, but I meant to type 9.75 :p
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#2236 [19:36] <xales> VoxelHead: test
#2237 [19:36] <xales> D:<
#2238 [19:37] <dopeghoti> xales: I have no idea why that's not working
#2239 [19:37] <dopeghoti> vox: test
#2240 [19:37] <VoxelHead> sup
#2241 [19:37] <xales> D:<
#2242 [19:37] <oldtopman> ]:|=>~-
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#2245 [19:40] <dopeghoti> xales, partyline
#2246 [19:40] <xales> I just responded
#2247 [19:40] <xales> :)
#2248 [19:40] <xales> VoxelHead: test
#2249 [19:40] <xales> >:|
#2250 [19:41] <xales> VoxelHead: test
#2251 [19:41] <VoxelHead> Hello.
#2252 [19:41] <SkiingPenguins> :O
#2253 [19:41] <xales> /o\
#2254 [19:41] <VoxelHead> well slap my ass and call me susan
#2255 [19:41] <SkiingPenguins> alright
#2256 [19:41] * xales sets fire to VoxelHead
#2256 [19:41] <VoxelHead> Huk.
#2257 [19:41] * SkiingPenguins gives xales tnt
#2257 [19:41] * dopeghoti calls Voxel Susan
#2257 [19:41] <VoxelHead> That's not my name!
#2258 [19:42] <xales> VoxelHead: test
#2259 [19:42] <VoxelHead> Greets.
#2260 [19:42] <xales> so it was +J then
#2261 [19:42] <dopeghoti> I wonder what that came from
#2262 [19:42] <SkiingPenguins> +J ?
#2263 [19:45] <dopeghoti> SkiingPenguins: it is a mystery
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#2266 [19:51] <VoxelHead> Mmm umbridge.
#2267 [19:53] <Zoroark> Vox, file a report
#2268 [19:53] <Zoroark> D:<
#2269 [19:53] <Zoroark> Voxel, courtmartial yourself
#2270 [19:53] <VoxelHead> Who?
#2271 [19:53] <Zoroark> YOU!
#2272 [19:53] <SkiingPenguins> Voxel, comfort Zoroark
#2273 [19:54] <Zoroark> huh
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#2275 [19:55] <dopeghoti> vox, give Zoroark some love
#2276 [19:55] * VoxelHead gives Zoroark some love
#2276 [19:55] * Zoroark forcefully throws the love at Voxel
#2276 [19:55] <VoxelHead> what
#2277 [19:55] <SkiingPenguins> hahaha
#2278 [19:55] <VoxelHead> GIR, your waffles have sickened me! FETCH ME THE BUCKET!
#2279 [19:56] <xales> VoxelHead: YOU'RE sick? feel these nipples!
#2280 [19:56] * xales wonders if that works
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#2282 [20:04] <winzig> My Minecraft account disappeared, so I emailed payment support and got a (autogenerated?) response back. That was over a month ago, and I haven't heard anything since then. How should I proceed?
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#2284 [20:04] <xales> winzig: define "disappeared"
#2285 [20:06] <winzig> xales, it no longer exists. when I try to recover the password, it either throws a Java error or says that the user doesn't exist.
#2286 [20:06] <oldtopman> winzig: username?
#2287 [20:06] <winzig> winzig
#2288 [20:07] <dopeghoti> !paid winzig
#2289 [20:07] <xales> Are you sure that's correct? Usually those problems are just because the person forgot their username
#2290 [20:07] <oldtopman> !paidwinzig
#2291 [20:07] <SkiingPenguins> ...
#2292 [20:07] <oldtopman> DOPE!!! U NINJERD ME AGAIN!
#2293 [20:07] <winzig> yes, it's correct. I have a PayPal receipt, too.
#2294 [20:07] * dopeghoti idly spins a sai
#2294 [20:08] <dopeghoti> winzig: well, the system still seems to know about your premium account. have you tried clearing out and reentering your username and password when logging in?
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#2298 [20:13] <winzig> just did a fresh install of the client, no change.
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#2300 [20:15] <dopeghoti> winzig: are you able to log in at the web site?
#2301 [20:17] <winzig> nope. "Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password." When I try to recover the password, it throws a Java error if I put in my username, or just says "Couldn't find that user." if I put in my email address.
#2302 [20:18] <dopeghoti> And you have already emailed suppprt?
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#2304 [20:19] <xales> winzig: Can you tell me what the error is (pastebin)?
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#2307 [20:25] * dopeghoti waves
#2307 [20:25] * BarryCarlyon waves
#2307 [20:25] <winzig> It won't let me try with my username, looks like there's some kind of timer. "An email was recently sent to that user!"
#2308 [20:25] <winzig> Except there's no email. :/
#2309 [20:26] <Auger> anybody familiar with any minecraft problems on 64 bit windows xp
#2310 [20:26] <xales> Auger: Just say what the problem is
#2311 [20:26] <dopeghoti> Auger: care to be more specific?
#2312 [20:26] <BarryCarlyon> Did you turn it off and on again.
#2313 [20:26] <Thoatt> Auger: reinstall the 64 version of java.
#2314 [20:26] <xales> winzig: Send another email, then.
#2315 [20:26] <dopeghoti> Auger: I use Minecraft on a 64-bit Windows install with some frequency
#2316 [20:27] <Auger> my friend is on windows xp 64
#2317 [20:27] <Auger> and he has tried reinstalling java
#2318 [20:27] <Auger> both 64 and 32 bit versions
#2319 [20:27] <Thoatt> Is he sure he used the 64 bit version?
#2320 [20:27] <dopeghoti> Is he instlaling the 64-bit JRE?
#2321 [20:27] <Auger> yes to both
#2322 [20:27] <dopeghoti> (and uninstalled the pior installation(s)?)
#2323 [20:27] <xales> Auger: What, specifically, is the problem?
#2324 [20:27] <Auger> it loads, but crashes before mojang screen
#2325 [20:28] <Auger> can't find similar problems on google
#2326 [20:28] <Thoatt> xales: don't you know it's best to give advice before knowing what the problem is? lol
#2327 [20:28] <winzig> xales: Okay, will do.
#2328 [20:28] <Auger> well similar but no fixes that work
#2329 [20:28] <xales> Auger: Is there an error message?
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#2331 [20:28] <Auger> no, he says the server gives him an error, basically a java error i'll make him give more specific one sec
#2332 [20:28] <dopeghoti> Auger: have him try creating a new, pristing Windows user profile, and trying Minecraft from here.
#2333 [20:28] <Auger> 'null point' or something like that
#2334 [20:29] <dopeghoti> pristine even
#2335 [20:29] <Thoatt> dopeghoti called it.
#2336 [20:29] <Auger> ok thanks he's gonna try that
#2337 [20:29] <xales> Auger: If your friend is the one with the problem, we would like to talk to them. It's very difficult to play the "help telephone"
#2338 [20:29] <Auger> any other things to try while he's over there
#2339 [20:29] <Auger> i know i'm sorry
#2340 [20:29] <Thoatt> tell him to make a user without a '!' in it
#2341 [20:29] <dopeghoti> Auger: new video drivers.
#2342 [20:30] <Auger> i'll get him over here if new video drivers and new windows user account and uninstalling/reinstalling java 32/64 does not work
#2343 [20:30] <dopeghoti> we'll be here
#2344 [20:30] <Auger> awesome
#2345 [20:30] <dopeghoti> for certain values of 'we'
#2346 [20:30] <Auger> thanks guys
#2347 [20:30] <Thoatt> Auger: new java, new drivers, new windows, there are manty things you /can/ do... will they help? only one way to find out!
#2348 [20:30] <Auger> i'll be hanging here too
#2349 [20:30] <Auger> yeah i'll let you know what the results are for sure
#2350 [20:30] <Thoatt> :)
#2351 [20:30] <xales> why not just have them come in? :|
#2352 [20:30] <VoxelHead> =D
#2353 [20:30] <Auger> he says he tried everything so i'm sure he'll be back here next
#2354 [20:31] <Auger> he's not familiar with mirc so i told him i could do it
#2355 [20:31] * dopeghoti suspects 'everything' may be an overstatement
#2355 [20:31] <Auger> but i'll get him on here
#2356 [20:31] <Auger> lol
#2357 [20:31] <dopeghoti> has he tried pastrami on the Rye or the Kaiser?
#2358 [20:31] <Auger> the rye or the kaiser
#2359 [20:31] * Thoatt suspects dopeghoti's suspicions are correct.
#2359 [20:31] <dopeghoti> the thrill of one bite.
#2360 [20:31] * xales goes to get dinner now
#2360 [20:31] <Thoatt> dopeghoti: om nom nom
#2361 [20:31] <Auger> theme song to rocky 13?
#2362 [20:32] <Auger> damn
#2363 [20:32] <dopeghoti> Quite.
#2364 [20:32] <Auger> what a classic
#2365 [20:32] <Auger> my kind of people
#2366 [20:32] <Thoatt> indubidubly
#2367 [20:32] <dopeghoti> \o/
#2368 [20:32] <Thoatt> o/
#2369 [20:32] <Thoatt> highfive!
#2370 [20:32] <dopeghoti> \o
#2371 [20:32] <Bob_Sack> heil hitler
#2372 [20:32] <Thoatt> :D
#2373 [20:32] <Bob_Sack> o/
#2374 [20:32] <Thoatt> \o
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#2376 [20:32] <dopeghoti> Charming, Bob.
#2377 [20:32] <Thoatt> as usual :\
#2378 [20:32] <Auger> sick bastard
#2379 [20:32] <Thoatt> lol
#2380 [20:33] <dopeghoti> Vox, give Bob_Sack a one-way ticket to the Nature Trail to Hell
#2381 [20:33] <VoxelHead> *gives Bob_Sack an one-way ticket to the Nature Trail to Hell*
#2382 [20:33] <dopeghoti> (in 3D!)
#2383 [20:33] <Thoatt> *guitar solo*
#2384 [20:33] <Auger> widdly-weeee
#2385 [20:33] <Auger> widdly widdly widdly woooo!!!!!!!
#2386 [20:33] <VoxelHead> Dootie!
#2387 [20:34] <dopeghoti> That was actually the first vinyl LP I owned
#2388 [20:34] <Thoatt> Ok well, you ladies and gents have a glorious rest of the night. I'm off to get ready for work.
#2389 [20:34] <dopeghoti> ciao, Thoatt
#2390 [20:34] <dopeghoti> I'm about ready to go home *from* work
#2391 [20:34] * dopeghoti loves his job
#2391 [20:35] <Thoatt> lucky bastard...
#2392 [20:35] <Thoatt> I need me one of them jobs..
#2393 [20:35] <dopeghoti> I'm not slacking off..
#2394 [20:35] * dopeghoti removes his shades
#2394 [20:35] <dopeghoti> I'm compiling
#2395 [20:35] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE compiling? feel these nipples!
#2396 [20:35] <Thoatt> Exactly.
#2397 [20:35] * dopeghoti declines to feel Voxel's nipples.
#2397 [20:35] * VoxelHead . o O ( ? )
#2397 [20:36] <Thoatt> anywho...
#2398 [20:36] <VoxelHead> cya
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#2401 [20:39] <multihaha> hello?
#2402 [20:39] <dopeghoti> Salutations, alleged sentient.
#2403 [20:39] <multihaha> haha well, i just want to know how to create a SMP server.
#2404 [20:39] <dopeghoti> Download the server from minecraft.net; run it as per instructions
#2405 [20:40] <multihaha> where at?
#2406 [20:40] <Bob_Sack> ????
#2407 [20:40] <Bob_Sack> PROFIT!
#2408 [20:40] <dopeghoti> optional: forward a port using your router
#2409 [20:40] <Bob_Sack> i dont think thats actually optional
#2410 [20:40] <multihaha> lol
#2411 [20:40] <Bob_Sack> unless u just wanna play with yourself
#2412 [20:40] <dopeghoti> Bob_Sack: it was for me, as my server _is_ my router.
#2413 [20:40] <Thoatt|AFK> Most people do?
#2414 [20:41] <dopeghoti> Most != all -> optional
#2415 [20:41] <Thoatt|AFK> no, i mean most people like playing with themselves :D
#2416 [20:41] <Thoatt|AFK> I'll get me coat
#2417 [20:41] <dopeghoti> Not like there's anything wrong with that.
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#2424 [21:16] <aetherian> heya gladiator
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#2427 [21:29] <mib_z8ipy6> Someone know if the 1.4 version will fix the overflow problem in multiplayer...like when 2-3 people entering the game the processor hit 100% and disconnect the player?
#2428 [21:30] <LoRDTrevor> theres already a patch for that
#2429 [21:30] <mib_z8ipy6> hooo
#2430 [21:30] <LoRDTrevor> its called upgrading
#2431 [21:30] <mib_z8ipy6> what the latest patch?
#2432 [21:31] <mib_z8ipy6> its not 1.4?
#2433 [21:31] <mib_z8ipy6> 0o loll
#2434 [21:32] <LoRDTrevor> seriously though if your processor is maxing out your computer sucks
#2435 [21:32] <LoRDTrevor> usually RAM is the problem
#2436 [21:32] <Kealper> mib_z8ipy6: do you know the computer's specs?
#2437 [21:33] <mib_z8ipy6> 2é4 ghz dual core 4 gig ram
#2438 [21:33] <mib_z8ipy6> 2.4**
#2439 [21:33] <Kealper> windows?
#2440 [21:33] <mib_z8ipy6> amd 4200+
#2441 [21:33] <mib_z8ipy6> 7
#2442 [21:33] <Kealper> open Task Manager and set java.exe to Above Normal priority
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#2444 [21:34] <mib_z8ipy6> k i try
#2445 [21:34] <LoRDTrevor> or run it as a service so it gets the same priority as the os itself. But thats complicated.
#2446 [21:35] <Kealper> LoRDTrevor: it will run as Normal priority if it's running as a service
#2447 [21:35] <LoRDTrevor> oh oh.
#2448 [21:35] <LoRDTrevor> uh oh*
#2449 [21:36] <mib_z8ipy6> ok
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#2451 [21:36] <Kealper> mib_z8ipy6: you did that?
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#2453 [21:36] <mib_z8ipy6> Setting it to above normal
#2454 [21:36] <Kealper> did it help?
#2455 [21:36] <mib_z8ipy6> but runnong like service dont know where
#2456 [21:36] <mib_z8ipy6> heumm no
#2457 [21:36] <Kealper> don't even bother running it as a service
#2458 [21:36] <Kealper> hmm....
#2459 [21:36] <mib_z8ipy6> processor still running 56% to 93%
#2460 [21:37] <Kealper> do you have anything else running? and how much cpu % is java.exe taking?
#2461 [21:38] <mib_z8ipy6> heuuu when the game is closed the processor run to 4%
#2462 [21:38] <mib_z8ipy6> when running minecraft
#2463 [21:38] <mib_z8ipy6> 93%
#2464 [21:38] <Kealper> ._.
#2465 [21:38] <LoRDTrevor> exactly
#2466 [21:38] <Kealper> any 3d game will run the CPU hard
#2467 [21:38] <Kealper> i thought you meant the minecraft server was running at like 90%
#2468 [21:39] <mib_z8ipy6> hmm yep when the server is open
#2469 [21:39] <mib_z8ipy6> lol
#2470 [21:39] <LoRDTrevor> Kealper: the server does render! it just sends the chunks basically as a file.
#2471 [21:39] <LoRDTrevor> does not
#2472 [21:39] <LoRDTrevor> does not render
#2473 [21:39] <Kealper> LoRDTrevor: eh?
#2474 [21:40] <VoxelHead> what is your favourite colour?
#2475 [21:40] <LoRDTrevor> green
#2476 [21:40] <Kealper> VoxelHead: Voxels.
#2477 [21:40] <VoxelHead> greeeeeeeeen
#2478 [21:40] <LoRDTrevor> that so not a bot
#2479 [21:40] <Kealper> it is lol
#2480 [21:40] * Zemedelphos is away: Bbl
#2480 [21:40] * VoxelHead waves
#2480 [21:41] <Kealper> it's running a fail AI thing called bmotion
#2481 [21:41] <LoRDTrevor> i swear to god thats not a bot. He always ignores my questions despite me copying noobs questions exactly
#2482 [21:41] <LoRDTrevor> noobs questions that he answers
#2483 [21:42] <Kealper> it only responds to random things sometimes
#2484 [21:42] <mib_z8ipy6> anwyay tks but i will hope for the enxt version it will help me :P
#2485 [21:42] <mib_z8ipy6> @+ ^^
#2486 [21:43] <LoRDTrevor> VoxelHead: I have a question.
#2487 [21:43] <Kealper> VoxelHead: charge lasers
#2488 [21:43] <Kealper> :<
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#2497 [22:02] <PV2Caribou> hello
#2498 [22:02] <Kealper> hi
#2499 [22:03] <PV2Caribou> i was wondering why i cant join my server, it says im not a premium?
#2500 [22:03] <Kealper> did you pay for the game?
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#2502 [22:03] <PV2Caribou> yes
#2503 [22:04] <Kealper> what is your username?
#2504 [22:04] <Kealper> your ingame one*
#2505 [22:04] <PV2Caribou> <
#2506 [22:04] <PV2Caribou> same
#2507 [22:04] <Kealper> !paid PV2Caribou
#2508 [22:04] <Kealper> hmm....
#2509 [22:04] <PV2Caribou> yup
#2510 [22:04] <Kealper> try joining the server mc.kealper.com
#2511 [22:04] <LoRDTrevor> !paid bretboy6
#2512 [22:04] <LoRDTrevor> woah
#2513 [22:05] <LoRDTrevor> !paid notch
#2514 [22:05] <Kealper> why does everyone feel the need to do that?
#2515 [22:05] <PV2Caribou> lel
#2516 [22:06] <Kealper> PV2Caribou: did you try that server i gave you?
#2517 [22:06] <VoxelHead> sunday
#2518 [22:06] <PV2Caribou> ya
#2519 [22:06] <PV2Caribou> i joined...
#2520 [22:06] <Kealper> VoxelHead: Monday
#2521 [22:06] <Kealper> PV2Caribou: hmm.
#2522 [22:07] <Kealper> so it just says that you are not premium for one specific server?
#2523 [22:07] <PV2Caribou> well at first it said could not join, play offline
#2524 [22:07] <PV2Caribou> wait one second, i will be right back
#2525 [22:07] <Kealper> hmm...idk, try your server again?
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#2527 [22:09] <PV2Caribou_> sorry bout that
#2528 [22:10] <Kealper> PV2Caribou: ok so...have you tried your server agian?
#2529 [22:10] <VoxelHead> Panties
#2530 [22:10] <Kealper> again*
#2531 [22:10] <PV2Caribou> trying now
#2532 [22:10] <Kealper> VoxelHead: bad bot! put em back on!
#2533 [22:13] <aetherian> vox, cloak
#2534 [22:13] <VoxelHead> Already running cloaked, sir
#2535 [22:14] <aetherian> at least we can't see it
#2536 [22:14] <Kealper> lol
#2537 [22:15] <PV2Caribou> hmmm i joined now....
#2538 [22:15] <VoxelHead> :)
#2539 [22:16] <Kealper> so i worked now?
#2540 [22:16] <PV2Caribou> ya
#2541 [22:16] <PV2Caribou> idk what was wrong...
#2542 [22:16] <Kealper> me neither :/
#2543 [22:17] <PV2Caribou> well, thanks
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#2546 [22:25] <cliff101> hi can ask where does the minecraft data stored?
#2547 [22:26] <Kealper> what operating system do you use?
#2548 [22:26] <cliff101> CentOS
#2549 [22:26] <Kealper> ~/.minecraft
#2550 [22:26] <cliff101> thanks
#2551 [22:26] <cliff101> minecraft does not support mySQL right?
#2552 [22:27] <Kealper> no
#2553 [22:27] <cliff101> ok
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#2557 [22:45] <MediaTechVII> hello
#2558 [22:46] <Kealper> hi
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#2562 [22:54] <MediaTechVII> how do i set up a minecraft server without hamachi?
#2563 [22:55] <Jonny> Man, I haven't used IRC in years...
#2564 [22:55] <MediaTechVII> ha ha
#2565 [22:55] <MediaTechVII> this is my first time
#2566 [22:55] <Kealper> MediaTechVII: you just go in to your router settings and set up port forwarding
#2567 [22:55] <MediaTechVII> YES
#2568 [22:55] <Kealper> if you do not know how to do that, i can link you to a site that can show you
#2569 [22:55] <MediaTechVII> i need big help with that
#2570 [22:55] <Kealper> http://portforward.com
#2571 [22:56] <MediaTechVII> thanks
#2572 [22:56] <Kealper> find your router model, click it, ignore the advertisement
#2573 [22:56] <Jonny> So does anyone here have experience troubleshooting Minecraft on Ubuntu 10.10?
#2574 [22:56] <Kealper> scroll about half way down, to the M section of services, you will see one called "Minecraft server", select that, follow instructions, and you're done
#2575 [22:56] <Kealper> Jonny: depends, what sort of trouble are you having?
#2576 [22:57] <MediaTechVII> thanks a shiz ton man
#2577 [22:58] <Jonny> I've got serious lag issues that happened without much of an apparent cause, and I'm pretty sure it's java related. I'm talking single-player lag so bad I can't place a block or interact with a switch plate.
#2578 [22:58] <MediaTechVII> WAIT
#2579 [22:58] <MediaTechVII> are you on a laptop
#2580 [22:58] <Kealper> yeah, that
#2581 [22:58] <MediaTechVII> ok
#2582 [22:58] <MediaTechVII> what version of windows?
#2583 [22:58] <MediaTechVII> 7
#2584 [22:58] <MediaTechVII> vista
#2585 [22:58] <Kealper> MediaTechVII: he is on linux
#2586 [22:58] <aetherian> NT?
#2587 [22:59] <MediaTechVII> oh
#2588 [22:59] <MediaTechVII> well
#2589 [22:59] <MediaTechVII> do you know how to get to your power settings?
#2590 [22:59] <Kealper> Jonny: has it ran fine before?
#2591 [22:59] <MediaTechVII> because
#2592 [22:59] <Kealper> MediaTechVII: i doubt it's that
#2593 [22:59] <MediaTechVII> i had my computer on powersaver because i wanted my battery to last 10 min without dying
#2594 [22:59] <Kealper> Jonny: also, how much ram does your computer have? minecraft might be running in to swap
#2595 [23:00] <MediaTechVII> and when its on balenced or powersaver
#2596 [23:00] <Jonny> Yeah, it was running sufficiently before.
#2597 [23:00] <MediaTechVII> no really try your power settings, the same thing happened to me
#2598 [23:00] <MediaTechVII> i got at times 1 frame a second on big worlds
#2599 [23:00] <Jonny> 2GB, I'm also on an Intel integrated chipset, but that wasn't an issue once I got Sun Java running properly
#2600 [23:01] <MediaTechVII> oohhh...
#2601 [23:01] <MediaTechVII> 2gb
#2602 [23:01] <MediaTechVII> ouch
#2603 [23:01] <MediaTechVII> thats not much anymore
#2604 [23:01] <Kealper> 2gb of ram is fine
#2605 [23:01] <LoRDTrevor> thats the reccomended minimum
#2606 [23:01] <Kealper> for minecraft and ubuntu
#2607 [23:01] <Jonny> My power settings haven't changed, but I suppose I could check that. I am on a laptop but I use it like a desktop so it never moves or gets unplugged.
#2608 [23:01] <MediaTechVII> does your computer have replaceable ram?
#2609 [23:01] <Kealper> Jonny: tried restarting your computer? might have a memory leak
#2610 [23:02] <MediaTechVII> lol same here
#2611 [23:02] <MediaTechVII> yeah try that
#2612 [23:02] <Jonny> yeah, give me a few minutes and i'll give you a complete rundown of how the lag started, then maybe you'll have a better idea of what I'm up against
#2613 [23:02] <Kealper> hopefully lol
#2614 [23:03] <MediaTechVII> if you really need more ram, you can get a good size sd card and dedicate it to becoming an extra ram device
#2615 [23:03] <Kealper> MediaTechVII: i doubt it's that he does not have enough ram
#2616 [23:04] <MediaTechVII> yeah i know, but it is scraping the bottom of the bucket with 2gb
#2617 [23:04] <MediaTechVII> at least for gaming anyway
#2618 [23:04] <MediaTechVII> now web browsing you can live on 512 mb
#2619 [23:05] <MediaTechVII> i have problems with the fog distance far on my game
#2620 [23:05] <MediaTechVII> it will black screen
#2621 [23:06] <MediaTechVII> know how to fix that?
#2622 [23:06] <Kealper> sounds like your graphics memory might be..lacking
#2623 [23:07] <Zoroark> Far render distace.. if it's on beta it's a problem with the game
#2624 [23:07] <Jonny> So to start out it was running fine. I have one world saved that's pretty big but again, it was never a problem. So I decide I want to use a map generator to get a bird's eye view of my world. I download and install mcmap (while my world is running mind you) and use it a number of times while I continue to play on that world. mcmap is all command line, and I used the flag that generated the tile sets and it always ended in a seg
#2625 [23:07] <Jonny> fault, but the files wrote and I got what I wanted and it didn't seem to affect my install of Minecraft. (More to come...)
#2626 [23:07] * Kealper waites
#2626 [23:07] <Kealper> waits*
#2627 [23:08] <MediaTechVII> i have a 2.0 pixel shader graphics card, its a ATI
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#2629 [23:08] <MediaTechVII> and my laptop is 2009 prerealese
#2630 [23:08] <Jonny> So I finish playing for the night, back out to the main menu, close the game. The next day I open the game up and select my world, it loads all the chunks and does the "simulating world for a bit" then flashes the user interface and the game closes. No error message of any kind, the window just is no longer there.
#2631 [23:09] <MediaTechVII> hmmm...
#2632 [23:09] <MediaTechVII> odd
#2633 [23:09] <Kealper> MediaTechVII: what chipset is has makes no difference, it's the amount of graphics memory (video ram) it has available to it
#2634 [23:09] <Jonny> It's also worth noting that I had the black screen problem which I use to have to use this method: (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=57426) to correct.
#2635 [23:09] <MediaTechVII> oh, i thought you ment video card, i have 4gb
#2636 [23:09] <Kealper> Jonny: tried opening it up in a terminal to see if there is any debug output?
#2637 [23:09] <MediaTechVII> oh thx
#2638 [23:09] <Jonny> sorry, i need to afk for a minute or two
#2639 [23:09] <MediaTechVII> ok
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#2641 [23:10] <Kealper> MediaTechVII: i do mean video card, a video card has it's own separate ram that it uses for stuff
#2642 [23:10] <MediaTechVII> oh
#2643 [23:10] <MediaTechVII> ok
#2644 [23:10] <MediaTechVII> ha ha
#2645 [23:11] <MediaTechVII> sorry
#2646 [23:11] <MediaTechVII> im really dead today
#2647 [23:11] <Kealper> lol
#2648 [23:11] <MediaTechVII> being as i have the **** cold
#2649 [23:11] <Jonny> ok i'm back. so the saga continues...
#2650 [23:11] <MediaTechVII> lol
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#2652 [23:13] <Jonny> Now, it's also worth noting that the night I installed mcmap my Minecraft had the 1.3_01 badge on the top left, but when i opened the .jar file i didn't get the fancy new login screen. In order to correct the most recent issue I just described about the window closing I ended up redownloading the Minecraft.jar file from the website and allowing it to use my existing .minecraft folder with all of my saves.
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#2655 [23:14] <MediaTechVII> just reinstall minecraft
#2656 [23:14] <Kealper> Jonny: so, last question still stands, ever tried running it through a terminal to see the debug info?
#2657 [23:14] <MediaTechVII> drag the saves file onto your desktop
#2658 [23:14] <Jonny> so now I know i'm using the most recent version of the .jar file. Now we're up to the present. Occasionally I still have the issue with the window just closing itself after simulating the world, but it's not very often. My problem now is that i lag in single and multiplayer so badly that I can't interact with blocks or switches at all, and it looks as if i'm getting 1-5 fps.
#2659 [23:15] <Jonny> i have, and i get no debug info from the terminal
#2660 [23:15] <Kealper> usually when it crashes, it will throw error crap into the STDOUT before dieing
#2661 [23:15] <Kealper> poopy
#2662 [23:15] <MediaTechVII> i think its because your mixing up the old and the new files
#2663 [23:15] <Kealper> brb
#2664 [23:15] <Jonny> no, thats the thing, it never gave any debug info
#2665 [23:15] <Jonny> that was one of the first things I tried, but it's like the game force closed itself and just killed the process
#2666 [23:16] <MediaTechVII> just drag the saves folder onto your desktop then delete .minecraft
#2667 [23:16] <MediaTechVII> then start the exe
#2668 [23:16] <MediaTechVII> start clean
#2669 [23:16] <Kealper> MediaTechVII: he's not using windows...he does not run an exe
#2670 [23:16] <MediaTechVII> if you want to get more fps you can try installing optimime
#2671 [23:16] <MediaTechVII> then the jar
#2672 [23:17] <Kealper> he isn't getting low fps, his game just crashes....
#2673 [23:17] <Kealper> Jonny: do you get far enough to create a new map and see if it's that?
#2674 [23:17] <MediaTechVII> but he said he was having lag issues at the beginning of the post
#2675 [23:17] <Kealper> oh....heck, idk, he just said it crashes
#2676 [23:18] <MediaTechVII> man im brain dead, just forget i sad anything, im prob not making much sence anyway
#2677 [23:18] <MediaTechVII> lol
#2678 [23:18] <Jonny> MediaTechVII, if you use options from the login screen and tell it to force an update the minecraft.jar file will go out to Notch's servers and pull down the most recent versions of all of the relevent files. I've done this, and it has no effect. There's no reason for me to delete my .minecraft folder.
#2679 [23:18] <MediaTechVII> oh
#2680 [23:19] <MediaTechVII> yeah i forgot about the force update
#2681 [23:19] <Jonny> oh i've made other maps, all with the same problem. and i dont think the game crashing is the problem necessarily, just a symptom. also it's not my primary problem as it only happens maybe 10% of the time now. my problem is the lag
#2682 [23:19] <Kealper> hmm...
#2683 [23:20] <Kealper> do you know what "free -m" is?
#2684 [23:20] <Jonny> nope
#2685 [23:20] <MediaTechVII> tno
#2686 [23:20] <MediaTechVII> oops
#2687 [23:21] <MediaTechVII> i have been in a server too long
#2688 [23:21] <MediaTechVII> having to press "t" before typing
#2689 [23:21] <MediaTechVII> lol
#2690 [23:21] <Jonny> i've been using ubuntu for about six months now, i'm actually in IT but I wanted to get more familiar with unix-based systems
#2691 [23:21] <Kealper> it's a terminal command, start minecraft, load a map up, and type free -m into a terminal
#2692 [23:21] <Kealper> it should say like 3 lines, with memory usage stats
#2693 [23:21] <Jonny> give me a minute to give that a shot
#2694 [23:23] <MediaTechVII> hey, kealper, you and me should start a smp server
#2695 [23:23] <Kealper> i already have a private smp server
#2696 [23:23] <MediaTechVII> how far are you
#2697 [23:24] <Jonny> let's find out if my irc client will wrap the text properly...
#2698 [23:24] <MediaTechVII> just begining?
#2699 [23:24] <Jonny> total used free shared buffers cached
#2700 [23:24] <Jonny> Mem: 2003 1955 48 0 24 411
#2701 [23:24] <Jonny> -/+ buffers/cache: 1519 484
#2702 [23:24] <Jonny> Swap: 3151 353 2798
#2703 [23:24] <Kealper> hmm...
#2704 [23:24] <Jonny> lol crap, i got warned for spamming, did you get the swap: line?
#2705 [23:24] <Kealper> yeah
#2706 [23:24] <Jonny> ok good
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#2709 [23:25] <Jonny> cd ~/
#2710 [23:25] <Jonny> ah, crap, sorry
#2711 [23:25] <Kealper> it's using 353mb of swap....if that is half of minecraft sitting on there, it would probably account for the lag
#2712 [23:25] <Kealper> and you can just type cd ~
#2713 [23:25] <Kealper> :P
#2714 [23:25] <Jonny> heh, good to know
#2715 [23:25] <spdorsey> does anyone know of a way to improve or change the rendering engine that Minecraft uses on Java for OS X? It looks a bit like poo.
#2716 [23:25] <Jonny> so how can I get it to use less of the swap space? is it doing that because it's maxing out my ram?
#2717 [23:26] <Kealper> spdorsey: could you be a bit more specific?
#2718 [23:26] <Kealper> Jonny: well, how much ram is being used without minecraft running?
#2719 [23:26] <spdorsey> I get jagged edges on distant objects (i.e. clouds)
#2720 [23:26] <Kealper> spdorsey: jagged edges? could you post a screenshot?
#2721 [23:26] <Jonny> after closing the .jar file and waiting long enough to type this...
#2722 [23:27] <Kealper> because that's probably just no anti-aliasing
#2723 [23:27] <spdorsey> im doing that now...
#2724 [23:27] <spdorsey> no, it's not an aliasing issue
#2725 [23:27] <Jonny> the used column now reads 1737, 1358, 353
#2726 [23:27] <Kealper> Jonny: ok so that's probably not the issue
#2727 [23:27] <Jonny> wow, what the hell am I running that's taking so much ram...
#2728 [23:27] <Kealper> you're not
#2729 [23:27] <Kealper> linux works with ram weird
#2730 [23:28] <spdorsey> here's a screenshot
#2731 [23:28] <spdorsey> http://i.imgur.com/OVoVU.png
#2732 [23:28] <MediaTechVII> lol
#2733 [23:28] <MediaTechVII> thats not too good
#2734 [23:28] <Jonny> does it reserve it and make it look like it's being used when it's really just fenced off for different applications or something?
#2735 [23:28] <spdorsey> yeah.
#2736 [23:28] <Kealper> spdorsey: i have no idea what is up with that
#2737 [23:28] <Kealper> and yes Jonny
#2738 [23:28] <aetherian> yeah
#2739 [23:29] <spdorsey> I have a MAc Pro with a Radeon 5870
#2740 [23:29] <aetherian> that'd be one big antialiasing issue
#2741 [23:29] <spdorsey> I think it's OS X's java implementation
#2742 [23:29] <Kealper> aetherian: that isn't aliasing
#2743 [23:29] <aetherian> Kealper: I just said that
#2744 [23:29] <spdorsey> yeah - it does nto resemble any kind of aliasing issue
#2745 [23:29] <aetherian> "that would" as in in theory
#2746 [23:29] <spdorsey> in fact, it more resembles bad video drivers
#2747 [23:29] <Kealper> spdorsey: tried updating drivers?
#2748 [23:29] <spdorsey> os x - no such thing
#2749 [23:30] <spdorsey> one disadvantage of this OS
#2750 [23:30] <Kealper> software center or whatever it's called
#2751 [23:30] <MediaTechVII> osx has drivers
#2752 [23:30] <spdorsey> yeah - everything's current
#2753 [23:30] <MediaTechVII> everything has to
#2754 [23:30] <MediaTechVII> or nothing would work
#2755 [23:30] <spdorsey> it does, but you only update them when Apple says you do
#2756 [23:30] <MediaTechVII> yeah i know
#2757 [23:30] <spdorsey> they are not updated by ATI
#2758 [23:30] <Kealper> spdorsey: no idea then
#2759 [23:30] <spdorsey> ok :)
#2760 [23:30] <Kealper> spdorsey: tried reinstalling mc?
#2761 [23:30] <Jonny> lol i just closed about a half dozen tabs in chrome and now my used column reads 1602, 1201, 340. maybe i should kill chrome altogether and see if my fps jumps
#2762 [23:31] <spdorsey> several times - this issue has persisted through 6 months of use and 3 separater machines
#2763 [23:31] <MediaTechVII> if you want more fps, install optimime
#2764 [23:31] <Kealper> Jonny: try that, something in chrome could be using a ton of CPI
#2765 [23:31] <Kealper> CPU*
#2766 [23:31] <MediaTechVII> CHROME!!!!!
#2767 [23:31] <MediaTechVII> delete that peice
#2768 [23:31] <Kealper> MediaTechVII: that is probably not going to help him
#2769 [23:31] <aetherian> what
#2770 [23:31] <grakker> Anyone else having issues not being able to login to minecraft? I can log into minecraft.net and run it in browser, but the launcher just says "Cant connect to minecraft.net" Debian Sid.
#2771 [23:31] <spdorsey> I may boot into Windows 7 64 and try it again
#2772 [23:31] <spdorsey> I bet it will look a lot better :(
#2773 [23:32] <Kealper> grakker: sounds like minecraft.net is having issues with logins or something again then
#2774 [23:32] * Kealper checks
#2774 [23:32] <MediaTechVII> dude, chrome is full of bugs
#2775 [23:32] <MediaTechVII> i had chrome
#2776 [23:32] <MediaTechVII> and got a bunch of crap from it
#2777 [23:32] <Kealper> chrome is one of the most secure browsers you can get
#2778 [23:32] <MediaTechVII> no its not
#2779 [23:32] <Jonny> nah, i've never had a problem with it, both at home on ubuntu and at work on win7
#2780 [23:32] <aetherian> chromium>chrome
#2781 [23:32] <aetherian> and lynx is more secure :)
#2782 [23:32] <Kealper> i don't use it because i'm a firefox fanboy, but it's certainly not bad
#2783 [23:33] <grakker> Kealper, thanks. I'm not a full addict, so I can check back in a day or two.
#2784 [23:33] <Kealper> aetherian: i see what you did there
#2785 [23:33] <MediaTechVII> yeah firefox ftw
#2786 [23:33] <grakker> lynx is fine, but w3m rocks!
#2787 [23:33] <aetherian> eh heh heh
#2788 [23:33] <Jonny> also it's one of like two browsers that's never been exploited at pwn2own
#2789 [23:33] <Jonny> *successfully, i should add
#2790 [23:33] <Kealper> Jonny: yeah, Chrome and Firefox are always the last to fall (if at all) at those contests
#2791 [23:33] <MediaTechVII> you should at least try uninstalling chrome
#2792 [23:33] <aetherian> GO IE :D
#2793 [23:33] * Kealper stabs aetherian
#2793 [23:33] <MediaTechVII> if it doesnt help then install i again
#2794 [23:34] <aetherian> haha
#2795 [23:34] <VoxelHead> I congratulate you in recognising my superiority and choosing me to be your love pig!
#2796 [23:34] <MediaTechVII> but chrome is CRAP!
#2797 [23:34] <aetherian> I totally run IE through wine
#2798 [23:34] <Kealper> MediaTechVII: it's not chrome
#2799 [23:34] * Kealper stabs aetherian again
#2799 [23:34] <aetherian> ow
#2800 [23:34] <aetherian> death to firefox... IE will prevail...
#2801 [23:34] <Jonny> lol IE6, right aetherian?
#2802 [23:34] <Kealper> /stab nickname ftw
#2803 [23:35] <aetherian> the beta was so epic, right?
#2804 [23:35] <Kealper> Jonny: IE6? psh, IE5
#2805 [23:35] <Jonny> *barf*
#2806 [23:35] <grakker> I'm still rocking mosaic
#2807 [23:35] <Jonny> sorry, dunno where that came from
#2808 [23:35] <VoxelHead> bye linkinus
#2809 [23:35] <Kealper> grakker: lol
#2810 [23:35] <aetherian> aahhhh yeah
#2811 [23:35] <Kealper> i actually had my user agent set to look like Mosaic before
#2812 [23:35] <MediaTechVII> IE is worse then...then...idk, its hard compairing to that much suck
#2813 [23:35] <VoxelHead> Much is a pile of fuck.
#2814 [23:36] <Kealper> just to troll sysadmins who looked at their httpd logs
#2815 [23:36] <grakker> Probably confused the hell out of some tech doing log analysis
#2816 [23:36] <aetherian> eh heh heh
#2817 [23:36] <grakker> yeah
#2818 [23:36] <aetherian> still
#2819 [23:36] <Jonny> lol successful troll is successful
#2820 [23:36] <aetherian> nobody here should use chrome
#2821 [23:36] <aetherian> chromium for the win :D
#2822 [23:36] <Kealper> aetherian: lol
#2823 [23:36] <LoRDTrevor> http://www.minecraftskins.com/skin/54530 made my first skin today!
#2824 [23:36] <aetherian> true!
#2825 [23:37] <MediaTechVII> LoRDTreavor: get off the help section if you dont need help
#2826 [23:37] <grakker> Not bad LoRDTrevor
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#2828 [23:37] <aetherian> MediaTechVII: jeez, man
#2829 [23:37] <MediaTechVII> but good skin
#2830 [23:37] <Kealper> no backseat moderation, please :/
#2831 [23:37] <Jonny> chromium is great, i love my cr-48
#2832 [23:38] <Kealper> LoRDTrevor: looks decent lol
#2833 [23:38] <aetherian> Kealper: what about windshield moderation?
#2834 [23:38] <Kealper> aetherian: that'd be fine, we need people to clean the bugs off
#2835 [23:38] <aetherian> mmhmm
#2836 [23:38] <MediaTechVII> lol
#2837 [23:38] <aetherian> people do use windows, 'tis true
#2838 [23:38] <MediaTechVII> brb
#2839 [23:38] <Kealper> where'd your + go? was it revoked? lol
#2840 [23:39] <aetherian> I haven't logged it
#2841 [23:39] <aetherian> *in
#2842 [23:39] <Kealper> oh...bah
#2843 [23:39] <aetherian> :)
#2844 [23:39] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2845 [23:39] <Jonny> hmmm... game still runs like pixelated molasses even with Chrome closed.
#2846 [23:39] <aetherian> augh
#2847 [23:39] <aetherian> nobody use chrome, chromium is open source DL
#2848 [23:39] <aetherian> *D:
#2849 [23:39] <Kealper> Jonny: without minecraft running, what is your cpu usage?
#2850 [23:40] <Kealper> aetherian: you realize that chrome is just compiled chromium, right?
#2851 [23:40] <Jonny> oh, it might also be helpful to tell you that whenever I right-click my mouse pointer shows through the interface, and sometimes it won't register clicks on menu buttons properly
#2852 [23:40] <aetherian> Kealper: and a couple other things
#2853 [23:40] <Jonny> last time I checked it pegged my dual-core at max. I reniced the process to -20 and no effect
#2854 [23:40] <Kealper> (get it? chromium is the raw materials, and with some refining, you get crome?)
#2855 [23:41] <Kealper> Jonny: well, i just mean without minecraft running..since mc is going to peg your cpu, all 3d games will
#2856 [23:41] <Jonny> oh, crap sorry, misread
#2857 [23:41] <Kealper> aetherian: want to be entertained for a few minutes?
#2858 [23:42] <aetherian> not...particularly? I mean, what kind of question is that
#2859 [23:42] <aetherian> I'm scared of questions like that
#2860 [23:42] <Kealper> aetherian: not that way...sheesh
#2861 [23:42] <Kealper> i made a program
#2862 [23:42] <aetherian> whoa
#2863 [23:42] <aetherian> hello world already?
#2864 [23:42] <Kealper> called: Draw! Collaborative Sketchpad
#2865 [23:42] <aetherian> you learn so fast
#2866 [23:43] <Kealper> go die >.>
#2867 [23:43] <Kealper> lol
#2868 [23:43] <Jonny> each core is bouncing between like 7% and 20% load with the GUI System Monitor running, my IRC client, rhythmbox, and chrome is back up atm
#2869 [23:43] * aetherian dies
#2869 [23:44] * aetherian comes back as an undead
#2869 [23:44] <Kealper> Jonny: then i've got absolutely know idea what could be causing it to run so bad...you've exausted my linux tech supporting
#2870 [23:44] <Jonny> i really do think it's a problem with the code, honestly. I'm pretty sure all of my problems were brought on by installing and running mcmap which forced me to update to the newest .jar file
#2871 [23:44] <aetherian> hey jon
#2872 [23:44] <aetherian> I hope it's on fast graphics, not fancy
#2873 [23:44] <Jonny> oh god, everything has been on it's lowest setting since i bought the game. i'd rather be able to move smoothly than get fancy pants graphics for Minecraft
#2874 [23:45] <aetherian> you need like a supercomputer to run it with fancy graphics >.>
#2875 [23:45] <Kealper> aetherian: a supercomputer i must have then?
#2876 [23:45] <aetherian> 1GB gpu and 4GB ddr3 sure isn't enough
#2877 [23:45] <aetherian> with like a quad core cpu
#2878 [23:45] <Kealper> i've only got a dual core with 512mb gfx card, and 6 gigs of ram...
#2879 [23:46] <Kealper> and i can play it fine on fully maxed
#2880 [23:46] <aetherian> Kealper: what was that program, like, draw! make weird images and creep people out in real time!
#2881 [23:46] <aetherian> or whatever
#2882 [23:46] <aetherian> Kealper: what's your fps?
#2883 [23:46] <Kealper> aetherian: http://kealper.com/Draw.exe
#2884 [23:46] <aetherian> uh
#2885 [23:46] <aetherian> I'll try to run it in wine
#2886 [23:46] <Kealper> aetherian: 50-110, depending on what i'm looking at
#2887 [23:46] <aetherian> oh pfft
#2888 [23:46] <aetherian> I can run it at ~100 at max graphics
#2889 [23:47] <Kealper> i'm fine with the fps i get.... 35 fps and 35,000 fps will look the same
#2890 [23:47] <aetherian> but with "fast" I can run it at ~175
#2891 [23:47] <aetherian> and with fast, no smooth lighting, and tiny viewing distance, I can run it at ~450 fps :D
#2892 [23:47] <aetherian> and they don't look the same to me, I'm spoiled.
#2893 [23:47] <Kealper> eyes can only capture at around 30 fps...no need for more :/
#2894 [23:47] <aetherian> I can see more...
#2895 [23:48] <aetherian> well, I'll see if wine runs th- it works!
#2896 [23:49] <GLaDOS> what difference does running what with wine make?
#2897 [23:49] <Jonny> wine lets you run windows executables in linux
#2898 [23:49] <GLaDOS> i know that
#2899 [23:49] <GLaDOS> im on ubuntu, and run steam with wine whenever im not behind a proxy, which is never
#2900 [23:50] <Kealper> aetherian: ain't too bad for a day's worth of work, eh?
#2901 [23:51] <aetherian> is it connect me to whatever.kealper.com/whatever:whatever?
#2902 [23:51] <Kealper> no
#2903 [23:51] <Kealper> it uses it's own super ghetto chat
#2904 [23:51] <aetherian> ah
#2905 [23:51] <Jonny> hey Kealper, there's one last thing that's bothering me. I use to have dozens of tabs open in chrome, all of the software running I mentioned before open, even a remote session going on to another computer in my home, and Minecraft never ran this poorly before. could notch's code for 1.3_01 really be... unoptimized enough to cause this kind of degredation in performance?
#2906 [23:52] <Kealper> well...it sounds like more of an incompatibility of some kind, rather than bad code
#2907 [23:52] <Kealper> something that your computer and the latest version hate about eachother.....
#2908 [23:52] <Jonny> that's the thing, everything was fine for the longest time and then i get this lag issue when I download a new copy of minecraft.jar
#2909 [23:53] <Kealper> that's why i'm thinking it might be an incompatibility....
#2910 [23:53] <Kealper> i could say try a new install of ubuntu, but i highly doubt you want to try that :/
#2911 [23:54] <Jonny> well i have been thinking of flattening this machine and starting from scratch. i've got a lot of random packages installed leftover from experimenting with all kinds of crazy shit
#2912 [23:55] <Jonny> the thing is I'm thinking of getting a new rig soon anyway, so maybe i'll just tough it out and try purging all java from my machine and reinstalling the sun packages
#2913 [23:55] <aetherian> I've installed ubuntu like 3 times
#2914 [23:55] <aetherian> :D
#2915 [23:55] <VoxelHead> =)
#2916 [23:56] <Kealper> i've installed windows 7 twice
#2917 [23:56] <Kealper> once on my main machine back when it came out, and another time on my server
#2918 [23:56] <aetherian> wait
#2919 [23:56] <aetherian> you use windows on a server
#2920 [23:56] <aetherian> heh
#2921 [23:56] <aetherian> the servers need rest, eh?
#2922 [23:56] <cliff101> how can i set new spawn point using essentials?
#2923 [23:57] <Kealper> aetherian: if my server was actually used for something important, i'd definately be running Arch lol
#2924 [23:57] <aetherian> definately...
#2925 [23:57] <Jonny> does running 7 on a home server as compared to xp make things a lot easier? i'm going to repurpose another machine for a media server and the wife still runs windows on her laptop
#2926 [23:57] <Kealper> cliff101: no idea, ask in #bukkit :/
#2927 [23:57] <aetherian> I'd run debian if I had a server :)
#2928 [23:58] <Kealper> Jonny: oh my lord windows 7 on a server is so nice if you know your way around windows administrative stuff
#2929 [23:58] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :'(
#2930 [23:58] <Jonny> that's what i do at work, but everything is xp and variants. we're only recently migrating to server 2008 as we move to a virtual environment
#2931 [23:59] <Kealper> vitrual enviroment? are you using like.. RDP for remote terminals or something? lol
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#2933 [23:59] <Jonny> no, vmware
#2934 [23:59] <Kealper> (which i would totally do for a small business, server 2008 R2/windows 7 RDP is so nice)