#1 [00:00] <Kealper> oh
#2 [00:00] <Jonny> vmware is pretty slick
#3 [00:00] <aetherian> ehh
#4 [00:00] <Kealper> i have it installed on my main, but i only use it for testing OSes
#5 [00:00] <aetherian> that
#6 [00:00] <Kealper> or using it for my sandbox windows xp
#7 [00:00] <aetherian> virus farm?
#8 [00:00] <VoxelHead> take one little step left
#9 [00:01] <Jonny> alright folks, i'm off to bed. thanks for all your help :)
#10 [00:01] <Kealper> aetherian: meh, i restore a clean image of it if i notice it's got too many viruses lol
#11 [00:01] <aetherian> nonono
#12 [00:01] <aetherian> just PURGE
#13 [00:01] <Kealper> cya Jonny, sorry i couldn't be of more help :/
#14 [00:01] <Jonny> it's cool, you showed me a few tools I didn't know about before, so at least i learned something
#15 [00:01] <aetherian> it's like the only time you can use the format command on your boot partition
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#17 [00:05] <aetherian> heya buddy
#18 [00:05] <GLaDOS> if you're running xchat, NEVER use /exec -o to start minecraft if you know it can crash
#19 [00:06] <GLaDOS> otherwise you end up putting 50000 bytes in your queue
#20 [00:06] <Kealper> GLaDOS: sounds like the voice of experience
#21 [00:06] <GLaDOS> Kealper: i did it half an hour ago
#22 [00:06] <GLaDOS> i've got 20000 bytes left :<
#23 [00:07] <Kealper> GLaDOS: relog? it should empty it
#24 [00:07] <GLaDOS> i refuse to
#25 [00:07] <GLaDOS> :3
#26 [00:07] <Kealper> lol
#27 [00:07] <GLaDOS> if i do, then theres more chance of people spoofing me
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#29 [00:09] <GLaDOS> http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/meme-troll-dad-this-is-your-life.jpg
#30 [00:09] <GLaDOS> whenever I have kids, i want to do that
#31 [00:13] <aetherian> owch
#32 [00:13] <Kealper> LOL
#33 [00:15] <GLaDOS> Kealper: 7800 bytes left! :D
#34 [00:15] <Kealper> lol
#35 [00:19] * VoxelHead is away: sekrit
#35 [00:21] <GLaDOS> and done
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#37 [00:39] <MajorTalbot> hey : ) is there any normal game play server online? like a survivor but online
#38 [00:40] <Kealper> there are plenty if you know where to look lol
#39 [00:40] <Kealper> http://mcserverlist.net
#40 [00:41] <aetherian> le gasp
#41 [00:41] <aetherian> you lost all that topnotch art
#42 [00:41] <Kealper> lol
#43 [00:41] <Kealper> either later tonight or tomorrow i'll start working on persistant canvases
#44 [00:41] <Kealper> so it's stored server-side, and people get it when they connect
#45 [00:42] <aetherian> and find a way to incorporate ponies into it
#46 [00:42] <aetherian> because ponies are awesome
#47 [00:42] <Kealper> right now the server software is just a generic one that i threw together to test the basics with, i'll need to write a better server
#48 [00:43] * LoRDTrevor high fives aetherian
#48 [00:43] <Kealper> and i plan on having it so the server can load template images to give to everyone
#49 [00:43] <LoRDTrevor> pwnies FTW
#50 [00:43] * aetherian shoves a unicorn horn through trevor's hand
#50 [00:43] <aetherian> don't worry
#51 [00:43] <Kealper> so...ponies are not outside the realm of possiblities lol
#52 [00:43] <aetherian> it'll heal it too
#53 [00:43] <Kealper> lol
#54 [00:43] <LoRDTrevor> lol
#55 [00:44] <aetherian> |o|
#56 [00:44] <aetherian> tie fighters :D
#57 [00:44] <aetherian> now we need some arrows
#58 [00:44] <LoRDTrevor> that would hurt more...its trying to heal with somthing inside it
#59 [00:44] <aetherian> know why?
#60 [00:44] <bokaholic> I have a bit of a question..
#61 [00:44] <Kealper> |>O<|
#62 [00:44] <aetherian> to make freakin' BOW TIE FIGHTERS >:O
#63 [00:45] <Kealper> yes bokaholic?
#64 [00:45] <aetherian> oh right. the customers.
#65 [00:45] <bokaholic> I can now connect to my server and have been playing for hours with many people. I logged off to turn on mobs and animals and now my boyfriend cannot enter. It says he is banned.
#66 [00:46] <Kealper> O.o
#67 [00:46] <bokaholic> Is there a command to unban something?
#68 [00:46] <Kealper> he is logging in correctly, right?
#69 [00:46] <aetherian> did you op anyone else?
#70 [00:46] <bokaholic> Just him and I.
#71 [00:46] <Kealper> and yes, pardon username
#72 [00:46] <LoRDTrevor> the command is /pardon
#73 [00:46] <bokaholic> Let me try that.
#74 [00:46] <aetherian> wow
#75 [00:47] <aetherian> I thought it was /parsnips ;_;
#76 [00:47] <Kealper> lol
#77 [00:47] <Kealper> well...afk for a bit
#78 [00:47] <bokaholic> I also tried !unban *name* we'll see how that works.. *wait*
#79 [00:48] <aetherian> !unban?
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#81 [00:48] <bokaholic> Also.. Is there a way to make the chat text smaller? o.o;;
#82 [00:48] <aetherian> no
#83 [00:48] <mly> Question: How would I go about getting server IPs?
#84 [00:48] * bokaholic hmmms.
#84 [00:48] <aetherian> #smp
#85 [00:48] <aetherian> or
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#87 [00:50] <aetherian> hmm
#88 [00:50] <aetherian> I wonder what happens when one listens to the same song over and over
#89 [00:50] <aetherian> I've been listening to under pressure for the last ~3+ hours
#90 [00:51] <aetherian> never bothered to turn off loop
#91 [00:51] <aetherian> =\
#92 [00:52] <aetherian> thiis is, our laast chance...
#93 [00:53] <aetherian> brb, gotta eat some nutella
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#95 [00:57] * VoxelHead is back
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#99 [01:19] <aetherian> I hate this schoolwork :)
#100 [01:24] <Chr|s> go here /j #homeworkchat
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#103 [01:26] <JustHayden> Hey does anyone know if you can look @ ur played servers? i spent like 2 days on this server building a base but i forgot the server name and ip
#104 [01:27] <JustHayden> ?
#105 [01:29] <JustHayden> helpfull help chat.... pce
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#110 [01:55] <aetherian> waugh D:
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#112 [01:56] <ericmck2000> Anybody here familier with running this on linux?
#113 [02:02] <aetherian> ooh ooh
#114 [02:02] <aetherian> I am I am
#115 [02:02] <aetherian> pick me pick me o/ o| o/ o|
#116 [02:05] <raskull> I am as well
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#118 [02:08] <ericmck2000> Familier with the black screen after login?
#119 [02:08] <ericmck2000> that only affects the beta and not the alpha client?
#120 [02:08] <raskull> I had that, yeah
#121 [02:08] <ericmck2000> You get it fixed?
#122 [02:10] <raskull> I noticed that the game had dll files as libraries instead of .so files in the natives dir
#123 [02:10] <ericmck2000> All .so for me.
#124 [02:10] <ericmck2000> ill try to do a manual apt update for all of them... might help
#125 [02:11] <raskull> so I installed lwjgl, and it worked after that//
#126 [02:11] <ericmck2000> Hrm, its already there.
#127 [02:11] <raskull> also, make sure you're using sun java instead of an alternative, and make sure you're on the latest version.. what distro are you using?
#128 [02:12] <ericmck2000> Yup, sun java installed as of 5 mins ago.. well, reinstalled.
#129 [02:12] <ericmck2000> and ubuntu 10.10
#130 [02:12] <ericmck2000> with current ati drivers and all the such
#131 [02:12] <raskull> I'm on ubuntu, and the repositories didn't have the latest version, so I found a third party repo with the current version
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#133 [02:12] <raskull> what's your java version?
#134 [02:13] <ericmck2000> one sec.
#135 [02:13] <ericmck2000> jre6
#136 [02:13] <raskull> 6 what? do a java -version in a terminal
#137 [02:14] <aetherian> back
#138 [02:14] <aetherian> what a time for me to leave :)
#139 [02:14] <ericmck2000> hold on a sec.... I think that might have found the problem...
#140 [02:14] <ericmck2000> its defaulting to openjdk instead of sun.
#141 [02:14] <aetherian> heh
#142 [02:14] <raskull> ah that might do it
#143 [02:14] <VoxelHead> :-)
#144 [02:14] <ericmck2000> lol
#145 [02:14] <ericmck2000> lets see... how to fix this issue...
#146 [02:15] <aetherian> kill openjdk?
#147 [02:15] <raskull> are you using gnome?
#148 [02:15] <ericmck2000> yea
#149 [02:15] <ericmck2000> ill just remove openjdk.
#150 [02:15] <aetherian> gnome is bloated...
#151 [02:15] <raskull> right click the jar file, and you can select how it executes
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#153 [02:16] <ericmck2000> its been defaulted to open with sun.
#154 [02:16] <ericmck2000> since the alpha works... let me try replacing the .so's
#155 [02:16] <raskull> well, the .so files aren't gonna be any different, I wouldn't think
#156 [02:17] <ericmck2000> i wouldnt think so either...
#157 [02:17] <ericmck2000> but, alpha works, beta doesnt.
#158 [02:17] <aetherian> and how would you know that D:<
#159 [02:17] <raskull> what java version are you using?
#160 [02:18] <ericmck2000> whichever one sun put up for linux 10 mins ago.
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#162 [02:18] <raskull> what's the output of a "java -version"?
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#164 [02:18] <ericmck2000> java version "1.6.0_20"
#165 [02:18] <ericmck2000> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)
#166 [02:18] <ericmck2000> OpenJDK Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)
#167 [02:19] <raskull> you need to update it then
#168 [02:19] <aetherian> not good enough f--
#169 [02:19] <raskull> lemme find that repository for you.. sec
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#171 [02:19] <aetherian> wait, I have a nice thing
#172 [02:19] <ericmck2000> ooh, really?
#173 [02:20] <raskull> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu maverick main
#174 [02:20] <raskull> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu maverick main
#175 [02:20] <aetherian> http://bit.ly/fBgBrw
#176 [02:20] <raskull> add those to your sources, he keeps an updated java version there
#177 [02:21] <raskull> and here's his site.
#178 [02:21] <raskull> https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/java
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#180 [02:21] <aetherian> mine worked for me, anyway
#181 [02:22] <raskull> you should be on 1.6.0_24
#182 [02:22] <aetherian> run the commands yet?
#183 [02:23] <ericmck2000> was checking the respotories
#184 [02:23] <aetherian> :)
#185 [02:23] <VoxelHead> :o)
#186 [02:23] <aetherian> shut up VoxelHead
#187 [02:23] * VoxelHead talks to Sqozza instead
#187 [02:23] <Bob_Sack> lolol
#188 [02:23] <aetherian> vox, tell me where is Gandalf
#189 [02:24] <ericmck2000> sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-{jre,jre-lib,jre-headless} icedtea{-6-jre-cacao,6-plugin}
#190 [02:24] <Bob_Sack> voxelhead, fire everything at himself
#191 [02:24] <ericmck2000> That did something.... lets see if it helped
#192 [02:24] <aetherian> ericmck2000: did you run the first one too?
#193 [02:24] <ericmck2000> didnt change anything, already had sun up to date
#194 [02:24] <ericmck2000> and installed
#195 [02:24] <aetherian> oh?
#196 [02:24] <ericmck2000> and...... black screen after login still.
#197 [02:24] <aetherian> well
#198 [02:24] <aetherian> ...
#199 [02:24] <ericmck2000> yea, it was already defaulted to run with sun java.
#200 [02:25] <raskull> you said you had 1.6.0_20 though
#201 [02:25] <aetherian> do java -version, silly
#202 [02:25] <ericmck2000> java version "1.6.0_24"
#203 [02:25] <ericmck2000> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07)
#204 [02:25] <ericmck2000> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
#205 [02:25] <aetherian> toldja it'd work :D
#206 [02:25] <raskull> ah ok, now you're updated
#207 [02:25] <ericmck2000> still have the underlying issue..
#208 [02:26] <ericmck2000> Mabye i need to chmod something?
#209 [02:26] <raskull> do you get the same thing if you run it in the browser?
#210 [02:26] <ericmck2000> no
#211 [02:26] <ericmck2000> it gives a white screen
#212 [02:26] <ericmck2000> lol
#213 [02:26] <aetherian> :O
#214 [02:26] <aetherian> progress!
#215 [02:26] <ericmck2000> well... white screen or black screen... depending on how its ran.
#216 [02:27] <ericmck2000> I have all of the sun java libs installed...
#217 [02:27] <ericmck2000> hrm.
#218 [02:27] <ericmck2000> now..
#219 [02:27] <aetherian> reinstall it
#220 [02:27] <aetherian> now
#221 [02:27] <ericmck2000> why would the alpha work
#222 [02:27] <ericmck2000> and the beta doesnt.
#223 [02:27] <aetherian> uh
#224 [02:27] <aetherian> you shouldn't test that
#225 [02:27] <aetherian> arrr
#226 [02:27] <ericmck2000> .minecraft deleted... reinstalling itself
#227 [02:28] <ericmck2000> and after downloading a bunch of shit again... back to the black screen.
#228 [02:28] <aetherian> do you have a fail computer?
#229 [02:28] <TheBix> GUYs
#230 [02:28] <ericmck2000> no
#231 [02:28] <TheBix> oh
#232 [02:28] <Bob_Sack> waht's yo graphix card?
#233 [02:28] <ericmck2000> 4 gigs ram, quad core 2.5, and ati 3870 512
#234 [02:28] <ericmck2000> all drivers up to date.
#235 [02:28] <aetherian> uh
#236 [02:28] <Bob_Sack> that should be plenty fine. thats as good as mine
#237 [02:28] <raskull> I'm not sure what else to try. I had the same issue, and making sure lwjgl and the latest java were there fixed it for me
#238 [02:29] <aetherian> uh
#239 [02:29] <aetherian> how are you launching it
#240 [02:29] <ericmck2000> trying both directly executing the .jar
#241 [02:29] <ericmck2000> and using a launcher with....
#242 [02:30] <ericmck2000> java -Dsun.java3d.opengl=true -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp /home/eric/Desktop/Games../Files.../minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
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#244 [02:30] <aetherian> yeowch!
#245 [02:30] <VoxelHead> hurrah
#246 [02:30] <aetherian> you only need "java -memory -stuff -jar minecraft.jar"
#247 [02:31] <raskull> try "java -jar minecrafdt.jar"
#248 [02:31] <ericmck2000> hey
#249 [02:31] <ericmck2000> progresss.
#250 [02:31] <ericmck2000> Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
#251 [02:31] <ericmck2000> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:212)
#252 [02:31] <ericmck2000> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:632)
#253 [02:31] <ericmck2000> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)
#254 [02:31] <ericmck2000> Caused by: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 0
#255 [02:31] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$Screen.<init>(XRandR.java:234)
#256 [02:31] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$Screen.<init>(XRandR.java:196)
#257 [02:31] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.populate(XRandR.java:87)
#258 [02:32] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.access$100(XRandR.java:52)
#259 [02:32] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$1.run(XRandR.java:110)
#260 [02:32] <ericmck2000> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
#261 [02:32] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.getConfiguration(XRandR.java:108)
#262 [02:32] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxDisplay.init(LinuxDisplay.java:618)
#263 [02:32] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.<clinit>(Display.java:135)
#264 [02:32] <Bob_Sack> could've pastebin'd it
#265 [02:32] <ericmck2000> ... 3 more
#266 [02:32] <ericmck2000> at least now i have something to work off of.
#267 [02:32] <ericmck2000> looks like.... some weird graphical error.
#268 [02:32] <aetherian> wake up aubot
#269 [02:32] * aetherian slaps aubot
#269 [02:32] <aetherian> ow!
#270 [02:32] <VoxelHead> awww
#271 [02:32] * VoxelHead kisses it better
#271 [02:32] <aetherian> aaaahhhhh
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#273 [02:32] <ericmck2000> ideas?
#274 [02:32] <aetherian> VoxelHead: shut up.
#275 [02:32] <VoxelHead> :(
#276 [02:33] <aetherian> AuBot: what about the first rule D:
#277 [02:33] <Bob_Sack> aetherian's only friends are bots
#278 [02:33] <aetherian> no
#279 [02:33] <aetherian> vox is a program
#280 [02:33] <aetherian> I asked him myself
#281 [02:33] <Bob_Sack> oh my bad
#282 [02:33] <Bob_Sack> bots aren't programs
#283 [02:33] <Bob_Sack> ;)
#284 [02:33] <aetherian> but aubot broke the first rule of robotics
#285 [02:34] <Bob_Sack> obviously he has a second brain that can override the rules
#286 [02:34] * aetherian takes aubot's second brain
#286 [02:34] <aetherian> omnomnom
#287 [02:34] <raskull> ericmck2000: what happens when you just execute the jar file instead of all those arguments? "java -jar minecraft.jar"
#288 [02:34] <aetherian> tapioca...
#289 [02:34] <ericmck2000> it throws...
#290 [02:35] <ericmck2000> Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
#291 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:212)
#292 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:632)
#293 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)
#294 [02:35] <ericmck2000> Caused by: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 0
#295 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$Screen.<init>(XRandR.java:234)
#296 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$Screen.<init>(XRandR.java:196)
#297 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.populate(XRandR.java:87)
#298 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.access$100(XRandR.java:52)
#299 [02:35] <raskull> oh lawd what have I done?
#300 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR$1.run(XRandR.java:110)
#301 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
#302 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.XRandR.getConfiguration(XRandR.java:108)
#303 [02:35] <Thoatt|AFK> spam ftw
#304 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxDisplay.init(LinuxDisplay.java:618)
#305 [02:35] <Bob_Sack> pastebin..
#306 [02:35] <ericmck2000> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.<clinit>(Display.java:135)
#307 [02:35] <ericmck2000> ... 3 more
#308 [02:35] <aetherian> ...pastebin, ya dummy
#309 [02:35] <raskull> well, if I were you I would search google for that error and start reading
#310 [02:36] <aetherian> something's borked with lwjgl
#311 [02:36] <Bob_Sack> google is the friend of any linux user, as i've learned
#312 [02:36] <Thoatt|Sleep> gnight peeps
#313 [02:36] <ericmck2000> yea, ive been googling all night on it
#314 [02:36] <ericmck2000> the only thing i found that actually worked...
#315 [02:36] <ericmck2000> was actually a alpha client.
#316 [02:36] <aetherian> RAGE
#317 [02:36] * aetherian kills ericmck2000
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#318 [02:37] <Kealper> it's not borked with opengl
#319 [02:37] <Bob_Sack> alpha client.. you mean old client? or alpha game files?
#320 [02:37] <Kealper> wait, it might be
#321 [02:37] <ericmck2000> the old game client.
#322 [02:37] <Kealper> yeah, graphics drivers issues
#323 [02:37] <ericmck2000> not driver issues....
#324 [02:37] <Kealper> ericmck2000: what's your username for the game?
#325 [02:38] <ericmck2000> something with this lwjgl shit.
#326 [02:38] <aetherian> ooh
#327 [02:38] <aetherian> the third degree :D
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#330 [02:38] <Kealper> lwjgl is just a set of java functions for OpenGL
#331 [02:38] <Kealper> OpenGL = comes with graphics drivers
#332 [02:38] <ericmck2000> hrm, let me find a updated version of this lib
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#335 [02:39] <aetherian> hey uh eric
#336 [02:39] <aetherian> what's your ingame name
#337 [02:39] <ericmck2000> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581381
#338 [02:39] <ericmck2000> ericmck2000
#339 [02:39] <raskull> well, sorry I couldn't find a solution for you.. goin to bed
#340 [02:39] <aetherian> okay
#341 [02:39] <aetherian> good
#342 [02:39] <VoxelHead> goooooooooooood
#343 [02:39] <aetherian> :)
#344 [02:39] <ericmck2000> this thread i just found looks useful.
#345 [02:39] <VoxelHead> =]
#346 [02:40] <Bob_Sack> yeah ubuntu's got a great community. that's why i prefer it
#347 [02:40] <ericmck2000> AHA http://timashley.me/node/596
#348 [02:40] <aetherian> but a horrible DE for plain ubuntu
#349 [02:40] <Thoatt|Sleep> I think I know what 3+ people just queried aubot with lol
#350 [02:40] <aetherian> haha
#351 [02:40] <aetherian> Thoatt|Sleep: goto bed
#352 [02:40] <Thoatt|Sleep> I am in bed lol
#353 [02:41] <aetherian> ...
#354 [02:41] * aetherian slaps thoatt
#354 [02:41] <ericmck2000> oh damnit
#355 [02:41] <ericmck2000> thats the same thread i found earlier...
#356 [02:41] <ericmck2000> that uses the damn alpha client instead
#357 [02:42] <aetherian> don't use the alpha client
#358 [02:42] <Bob_Sack> (this channel doesn't advocate the use of the old client, but i secretly prefer it)
#359 [02:42] <Thoatt|Sleep> ericmck2000: Have you tried to re-download all the jar files?
#360 [02:42] <ericmck2000> yea
#361 [02:42] <Thoatt|Sleep> hmmm
#362 [02:43] <Thoatt|Sleep> ok well... I'm sleeping
#363 [02:43] <aetherian> liar
#364 [02:43] <Thoatt|Sleep> sleep-ircing ftl
#365 [02:43] <aetherian> it's like drunk ircing, but legal
#366 [02:43] <raskull> and less productive
#367 [02:43] <Thoatt|Sleep> How would drunk ircing be illegal? lol
#368 [02:43] <Bob_Sack> drunk ircing is illegal? =O
#369 [02:44] <lukegb> It's a crime against humanity to IRC whilst drunk.
#370 [02:44] <Bob_Sack> im cool with crimes against humanity
#371 [02:44] <Kealper> especially when in a position of power
#372 [02:44] * Kealper glares at grey
#372 [02:44] <Thoatt|Sleep> At least drunk IRCers provide entertainment for the rest of us :D
#373 [02:44] <aetherian> haha
#374 [02:44] <VoxelHead> Victory for VoxelHead#^*$*$*£#*£$£~*.
#375 [02:44] <Bob_Sack> im drunk and not providing entertainment
#376 [02:44] <aetherian> I simulate drunkenness at late hours
#377 [02:45] <Kealper> VoxelHead: nou
#378 [02:45] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial aetherian
#379 [02:45] <VoxelHead> *throws aetherian in the brig to await charges*
#380 [02:45] <Thoatt|Sleep> I AM A BANANA
#381 [02:45] <Kealper> i still say it should ste +b while in the brig
#382 [02:45] <VoxelHead> So, like, aetherian, you are charged with terraforming Dr Crusher, and writing a character development episode.
#383 [02:45] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#384 [02:45] <Thoatt|Sleep> MY ANU.... I'll stop..
#385 [02:46] <aetherian> it...
#386 [02:46] <lukegb> ...brig
#387 [02:46] <lukegb> Damn
#388 [02:46] <aetherian> it was a good character development episode...
#389 [02:46] <aetherian> ;_;
#390 [02:46] <Kealper> lol
#391 [02:46] <Bob_Sack> your mom developed my charater last night
#392 [02:46] <aetherian> you know what webcomic we need a movie made off of?
#393 [02:47] <aetherian> toothpaste for dinner
#394 [02:47] <lukegb> Xkcd.
#395 [02:47] <lukegb> ;P
#396 [02:47] <Thoatt|Sleep> Bob_Sack: I want you to have my babies...
#397 [02:47] <Bob_Sack> i'll get a uterine implant for you thoatt
#398 [02:47] <aetherian> really though
#399 [02:47] <aetherian> that'd be awesome
#400 [02:47] <Thoatt|Sleep> Sounds like a plan Bob_Sack.
#401 [02:47] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial Bob_Sack and Thoatt|Sleep
#402 [02:47] <VoxelHead> Who?
#403 [02:47] <aetherian> dammit
#404 [02:48] <aetherian> vox, learn to AND
#405 [02:48] <ericmck2000> FIXEd
#406 [02:48] <ericmck2000> PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!
#407 [02:48] <Bob_Sack> vox, courmartial your mom
#408 [02:48] <Thoatt|Sleep> Vox, fire everything at aetherian
#409 [02:48] * VoxelHead swoops in on aetherian, decloaking on the way...
#409 [02:48] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial Bob_Sack
#410 [02:48] * VoxelHead fires the Universe Gun(tm) at aetherian
#410 [02:48] * VoxelHead recloaks
#410 [02:48] * VoxelHead throws Bob_Sack in the brig to await charges
#410 [02:48] <Bob_Sack> eff
#411 [02:48] <Thoatt|Sleep> vox, uncloak
#412 [02:48] <ericmck2000> Ah, now, to find a decent server to play on.
#413 [02:48] <VoxelHead> bob_sack, you are charged with doing warp 5 in 3 zone, and plotting with Deputy Wall Licker 97th Class "Splock"
#414 [02:48] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#415 [02:49] <Thoatt|Sleep> vox, decloak.
#416 [02:49] <lukegb> vox, courtmartial lukegb
#417 [02:49] * VoxelHead throws lukegb in the brig to await charges
#417 [02:49] <lukegb> ;D
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#419 [02:49] <VoxelHead> =)
#420 [02:49] <aetherian> !ping
#421 [02:49] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.593 seconds.
#422 [02:49] <aetherian> and I'm off
#423 [02:49] <Thoatt|Sleep> !time
#424 [02:49] <GreyBot> GreyBot's time is: Tue Mar 29 02:49:43 2011.
#425 [02:49] <Thoatt|Sleep> lol;p
#426 [02:49] <VoxelHead> lukegb, you are charged with attempting to replicate Dr Crusher, and writing a character development episode
#427 [02:49] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#428 [02:50] <lukegb> ...
#429 [02:50] <lukegb> Boooring
#430 [02:50] <aetherian> vox, eat lukegb
#431 [02:50] * VoxelHead eats lukegb
#431 [02:50] <Bob_Sack> that was unspectacular
#432 [02:51] <aetherian> !paid noone
#433 [02:51] <aetherian> yay :D
#434 [02:51] <lukegb> !paid
#435 [02:51] <lukegb> !paid lukegb
#436 [02:51] <lukegb> :o
#437 [02:51] <VoxelHead> crikey
#438 [02:51] <Bob_Sack> !paid Bob_Sack
#439 [02:51] <lukegb> !paid &
#440 [02:51] <Bob_Sack> !paid Notch
#441 [02:51] <lukegb> !paid ©
#442 [02:51] <lukegb> ...
#443 [02:51] <lukegb> !paid spacemonkey
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#446 [02:53] <bubblefish4> greyvulpine are you there?
#447 [02:53] <VoxelHead> shopping
#448 [02:53] <bubblefish4> oh
#449 [02:53] <bubblefish4> who?
#450 [02:54] <aetherian> oh.
#451 [02:54] <aetherian> oh boy.
#452 [02:54] <aetherian> just my luck.
#453 [02:54] <Kealper> ?
#454 [02:54] <aetherian> Kealper: oh nothing
#455 [02:54] <aetherian> nothing. at. all.
#456 [02:54] <Kealper> >.>
#457 [02:54] * aetherian puts on a smile
#457 [02:54] <aetherian> welcome, bubblefish4
#458 [02:55] <bubblefish4> thanks
#459 [02:56] <bubblefish4> aetherian
#460 [02:56] <bubblefish4> when i click on the bat
#461 [02:56] <aetherian> uh oh
#462 [02:56] <bubblefish4> and then edit
#463 [02:56] <aetherian> I can feel it coming
#464 [02:56] <lukegb> The bat?
#465 [02:56] <Bob_Sack> thats what she said
#466 [02:56] <lukegb> What is this?
#467 [02:56] <aetherian> lukegb: a continuation from last night
#468 [02:56] <bubblefish4> it creates a extra ar to jar
#469 [02:56] <lukegb> A point and click?
#470 [02:56] <bubblefish4> double click
#471 [02:57] <lukegb> Click 'use' then the cricket bat!
#472 [02:57] <bubblefish4> so it was jar then jarar
#473 [02:57] <aetherian> then you should bloody fix it, "silly" :)
#474 [02:57] <bubblefish4> i tried
#475 [02:57] <aetherian> oh joy :)
#476 [02:58] <bubblefish4> every time i remove the ar it adds it again on opening it
#477 [02:58] <aetherian> have you tried saving }:-|
#478 [02:58] <bubblefish4> yes
#479 [02:59] <aetherian> then I reckon there must be a problem, hmm?
#480 [02:59] <bubblefish4> yes indeed but how do i fix it?
#481 [02:59] <aetherian> many ways
#482 [03:00] <aetherian> copy what is withing the bat into a text editor
#483 [03:00] <aetherian> remove the bad parts
#484 [03:00] <aetherian> save as a bat
#485 [03:00] <bubblefish4> ill try
#486 [03:00] <lukegb> aetherian: >_<
#487 [03:00] <aetherian> what
#488 [03:01] <bubblefish4> hmmmmmmm
#489 [03:01] <bubblefish4> tubercular?
#490 [03:02] <bubblefish4> ^ just felt like typing that!
#491 [03:02] <aetherian> how about you just "feel" like doing what I asked
#492 [03:02] <bubblefish4> i did..................
#493 [03:02] <bubblefish4> not working is it's current state
#494 [03:02] <Bob_Sack> aetherian: U MAD BROOO?
#495 [03:03] <aetherian> quite, in both senses of the word
#496 [03:03] <aetherian> :)
#497 [03:03] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#498 [03:03] <Bob_Sack> hawt
#499 [03:04] <bubblefish4> grey vulpine are you there?
#500 [03:04] <bubblefish4> *greyvulpine
#501 [03:05] <bubblefish4> greyvulpine are you there?
#502 [03:05] <VoxelHead> r
#503 [03:05] <Bob_Sack> im startin to think he isn't
#504 [03:05] <aetherian> bubblefish4: he isn't :)
#505 [03:05] <Kealper> it's 3 in the morning where he is right now :/
#506 [03:05] <aetherian> last seen nearly 9 hours ago :)
#507 [03:05] <bubblefish4> :(
#508 [03:05] <Bob_Sack> i think grey is euro?
#509 [03:05] <Kealper> no
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#511 [03:05] <bubblefish4> >o<
#512 [03:06] <Kealper> eastern usa
#513 [03:06] <Bob_Sack> well then
#514 [03:06] <Bob_Sack> why isn't he up?
#515 [03:06] <aetherian> ...
#516 [03:06] <Kealper> because it's 3am....lol
#517 [03:06] <bubblefish4> he needs sleep
#518 [03:06] <aetherian> Bob_Sack: not everyone needs to be on irc every waking minute
#519 [03:06] <aetherian> except kealper
#520 [03:06] <aetherian> and me
#521 [03:06] <Bob_Sack> only noobs go to sleep before 3am
#522 [03:06] <Kealper> i'm not even on irc
#523 [03:06] <bubblefish4> he can't just be here cause we want him
#524 [03:06] <Kealper> i'm doing other stuff lol
#525 [03:06] <aetherian> telnet?
#526 [03:07] <aetherian> but you're chatting on ic
#527 [03:07] <aetherian> irc
#528 [03:07] <aetherian> that's what counts
#529 [03:07] <Kealper> i'm typing in an ssh client :P
#530 [03:07] <Bob_Sack> i irc in my sleep, like a boss
#531 [03:07] <aetherian> which one
#532 [03:07] <Kealper> putty
#533 [03:07] <aetherian> you mean PuTTy?
#534 [03:07] <aetherian> err
#535 [03:07] <Kealper> PuTTY
#536 [03:07] <Kealper> but yes, that one
#537 [03:08] <aetherian> that's what I meant, 'tis why I said err
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#539 [03:10] <aetherian> ooh ooh
#540 [03:10] <aetherian> aubot
#541 [03:11] <aetherian> have you heard the latest news?
#542 [03:11] <VoxelHead> well, i am not at liberty to discuss that
#543 [03:11] <aetherian> ...
#544 [03:11] <Bob_Sack> voxel wishes he was cool like aubot
#545 [03:11] <aetherian> that's what you said when I asked if you worshiped cthulhu, vox
#546 [03:11] <aetherian> GreyBot: join in the fun
#547 [03:12] <Bob_Sack> wtf does greybot do anyways
#548 [03:12] <Thoatt|Sleep> !time
#549 [03:12] <GreyBot> GreyBot's time is: Tue Mar 29 03:12:22 2011.
#550 [03:12] <Thoatt|Sleep> only thing I'v found...
#551 [03:12] <Bob_Sack> i have a similar device in the toolbar of my computer
#552 [03:12] <Thoatt|Sleep> I've*
#553 [03:12] <Thoatt|Sleep> NOWAI
#554 [03:12] <Thoatt|Sleep> Are you a wizard?
#555 [03:12] <Bob_Sack> good thing i got greybot tho
#556 [03:12] <Bob_Sack> my pyborg is better
#557 [03:13] <Bob_Sack> but "useless and annoying" bots aren't allowed in #minecrafthelp =(
#558 [03:13] <aetherian> you mean like vox?
#559 [03:13] <aetherian> oh wait
#560 [03:14] <VoxelHead> basically, i'll tell ya later
#561 [03:14] <aetherian> he's just annoying :)
#562 [03:14] <aetherian> but like, a useful annoying
#563 [03:14] <aetherian> he's like the living lart of this channel
#564 [03:14] <Bob_Sack> its like.. good to have him tell u info, but when he says shit, it's like stfu voc
#565 [03:14] <Bob_Sack> vox*
#566 [03:16] <aetherian> and a
#567 [03:16] * aetherian hugs aubot
#567 [03:16] <aetherian> <3
#568 [03:18] <aetherian> !8ball is aubot my vewwy vewwy bwest fwiend
#569 [03:18] <aetherian> ...8ball?
#570 [03:18] <aetherian> GreyBot >:
#571 [03:19] <Bob_Sack> !time
#572 [03:19] <GreyBot> GreyBot's time is: Tue Mar 29 03:19:22 2011.
#573 [03:19] <Bob_Sack> WOO GREYBOT
#574 [03:21] <aetherian> it's 00:21 here...
#575 [03:21] <Bob_Sack> same
#576 [03:21] <Bob_Sack> greybots need to lern2iptrace
#577 [03:22] <Sqozza> You rang, VoxelHead?
#578 [03:22] <VoxelHead> you wish
#579 [03:22] <aetherian> haha
#580 [03:22] <Sqozza> :<
#581 [03:22] <Sqozza> * @VoxelHead talks to Sqozza instead
#582 [03:24] <aetherian> there
#583 [03:24] <aetherian> my ctcp time is much, much better now
#584 [03:25] <aetherian> hell yes
#585 [03:25] <aetherian> finished my essay
#586 [03:25] <VoxelHead> hell yes... hes
#587 [03:25] <aetherian> up till 3:30 last night, and 12:30 tonight
#588 [03:25] <aetherian> I hate this
#589 [03:25] <aetherian> and now I need to play my 3ds that I haven't got a chance to play
#590 [03:26] <aetherian> so I'm up till 2:30
#591 [03:26] <Bob_Sack> i can't go to sleep before 3. i just end up stayin awake in bed til 3 regardless
#592 [03:26] <aetherian> heh
#593 [03:26] <VoxelHead> :)
#594 [03:27] <aetherian> I assure you I have no problem going to sleep at 3
#595 [03:27] <aetherian> let's see how this baby can game
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#599 [03:35] <bubblefish4> greyvulpine are you there?
#600 [03:43] <bubblefish4> greyvulpine are you there?
#601 [03:43] <VoxelHead> If only I hadn't used up all my lifelines
#602 [03:43] <VoxelHead> no thanks, don't know where it's been.
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#605 [03:53] * GLaDOS hugs VoxelHead
#605 [03:53] <VoxelHead> *spangle*
#606 [03:53] <GLaDOS> :<
#607 [03:54] <bubblefish4> greyvulpine are you there?
#608 [03:54] <VoxelHead> a bush
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#611 [04:04] <LoRDTrevor> ok the computer im on has never gotten me over 10 fps
#612 [04:04] <LoRDTrevor> now suddenly ive got 30(and ive got more stuff open then normal) wtf
#613 [04:05] <aetherian> nice
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#615 [04:06] <LoRDTrevor> the only thing i changed is my skin. Part of me says it cant have anything to do with it and the other part says never take off this skin.
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#617 [04:06] <aetherian> never ever take it off
#618 [04:06] <aetherian> you ain't got the guts
#619 [04:06] <aetherian> *bad-
#620 [04:06] <Chr|s> ....
#621 [04:06] <aetherian> bad joke
#622 [04:06] <Chr|s> some ppl
#623 [04:06] <Chr|s> in #minecraft
#624 [04:07] <Chr|s> I swear...
#625 [04:07] <aetherian> you'll note how I never go ther
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#627 [04:07] <Chr|s> they might as well delete that channel
#628 [04:07] <aetherian> no
#629 [04:07] <Chr|s> it isn't good for anything
#630 [04:07] <aetherian> then everyone would go to #mcchatter
#631 [04:07] <aetherian> and I'd be doomed
#632 [04:07] <LoRDTrevor> it keeps them away from here
#633 [04:08] <Chr|s> I just hate when things don't make sense lol
#634 [04:08] <aetherian> Chr|s will never learn quantum theory, I'm afraid
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#636 [04:08] <Chr|s> lol
#637 [04:08] <Chr|s> I just watched Sucker Punch
#638 [04:08] <Chr|s> weird movie
#639 [04:09] <LoRDTrevor> whats it bout?
#640 [04:09] <aetherian> FALCO-
#641 [04:09] <aetherian> er
#642 [04:09] <Chr|s> its best to watch the trailer on youtube
#643 [04:09] <aetherian> I'm going to bed
#644 [04:09] <Chr|s> im heading there soon
#645 [04:09] <LoRDTrevor> g'night
#646 [04:10] <LoRDTrevor> i am too after i perfect this skin
#647 [04:10] <LoRDTrevor> and post it
#648 [04:10] <LoRDTrevor> and watch it for a few minutes to see how many votes i need
#649 [04:10] <LoRDTrevor> and then realize theres somthing i need to change
#650 [04:10] <LoRDTrevor> *repeat*
#651 [04:11] <LoRDTrevor> votes i get*
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#669 [05:10] * Kealper kicked SNOWDAY from #minecrafthelp (Reason: SNOWDAY)
#670 [05:10] <Kealper> what the hell.
#671 [05:12] <Aska990> Stupid flood is stupid.
#672 [05:13] <Kealper> indeed
#673 [05:14] <Kealper> well...i'm off to bed...hopefully things stay calm until other powers that be wake up
#674 [05:18] <Sqozza> He seems legit.
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#678 [05:43] <bread> lolwut
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#685 [06:15] <Marko> nick /Marko
#686 [06:15] <Marko> hello all :) I just buyed the game
#687 [06:16] <Marko> can anyone tell me where is the server list?
#688 [06:17] <[z]> http://www.bestminecraftservers.com/servers/ one of several lists
#689 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#690 [06:18] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#691 [06:18] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#696 [07:13] <marineblue> hello
#697 [07:15] <BarryCarlyon> Hello.
#698 [07:15] <Gray_Oz> Hello
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#700 [07:20] <marineblue> i have problem with runecraft installation, can anyone help me/
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#703 [07:21] <marineblue> copied files from mod zip archive to server jar and after run i can't see anything indicating mod is installed
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#725 [09:22] <jimmybrite> Hi, does anybody here have any experience with minecraft running on the intel 2500k gpu? Cause man am I ever having a hard time.
#726 [09:22] <oldtopmanserver> What happens?
#727 [09:23] <jimmybrite> well I get massive slowdowns and stutters, whereas my dads igp 3200 has no issues at all, i've modded minecraft with optimine and cafmod as well (caf helps a lot with igp's)
#728 [09:23] <jimmybrite> crap I can run mirror's edge on max setting in hd, and lots of other games where my dad's rig can't and with minecraft it's crap
#729 [09:24] <oldtopmanserver> Have you tried it wothout mods?
#730 [09:24] <jimmybrite> I have the latest intel hd2000/3000 drivers, a fresh win7 64 bit install and everything
#731 [09:24] <jimmybrite> yup
#732 [09:24] <oldtopmanserver> without*
#733 [09:24] <oldtopmanserver> How much RAM?
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#735 [09:24] <jimmybrite> on my dad's rig I get good frame rate and no stutter with and without mod, with and without fancy/smooth lighting
#736 [09:24] <jimmybrite> me 8gb of 1333mhz
#737 [09:25] <jimmybrite> my dad 4 gb of ddr 800
#738 [09:25] <oldtopmanserver> I assume you have either a sandybridge or an i7
#739 [09:25] <jimmybrite> my dads rig CANNOT run gta 4 at all, my rig can at over 40 fps (800x600)
#740 [09:25] <oldtopmanserver> We know already.
#741 [09:25] <oldtopmanserver> What is your processor
#742 [09:25] <jimmybrite> sandy brigde, yeah, I thought I was making a good deal, always seems like i dig myself a hole, lol
#743 [09:25] <jimmybrite> 2500k
#744 [09:26] <oldtopmanserver> ...
#745 [09:26] <oldtopmanserver> So you run a server at the same time?
#746 [09:26] <oldtopmanserver> Do*
#747 [09:26] <jimmybrite> I wanted to save up and buy a nice gtx 460 or a radeon 5770 later when theyre cheaper
#748 [09:26] <jimmybrite> nop
#749 [09:26] <jimmybrite> my pc is as optimized as can be with all unnecessary services stopped
#750 [09:27] <jimmybrite> I also get weird slowdowns while playing soldier of fortune 1 but not sof2
#751 [09:27] * oldtopmanserver is thinking
#751 [09:27] <jimmybrite> so intel driver = crap?
#752 [09:27] <oldtopmanserver> I have no idea.
#753 [09:27] <oldtopmanserver> I'm just troubleshooing here.
#754 [09:27] <jimmybrite> also linux has little to no support when it comes to the intel sandybridge igp's
#755 [09:28] <oldtopmanserver> Because they were just released a few months ago, thus, none of us have them.
#756 [09:28] <jimmybrite> I wanted to try it with ubuntu but opengl it wonky with the current xorg + sandybridge chipsets
#757 [09:28] <jimmybrite> yeah I know, but trust me I love my rig
#758 [09:28] <jimmybrite> built it for dirt cheap and it's faster than my bro's 6 core amd
#759 [09:28] <oldtopmanserver> So your graphics are onboard?
#760 [09:29] <jimmybrite> but i've been stupid, I saved up some cash by buying the mobo wioth the h67 chipset, which has far less overclocking capabilities and only 1333mhz mem not 1600
#761 [09:29] <jimmybrite> on-chip
#762 [09:29] <oldtopmanserver> Do you remember the sandybridge recall?
#763 [09:29] <jimmybrite> which I thought was gonna be the shyte because the gpu is right next to my 4 cores on my cpu so it does get proper fan cooling
#764 [09:29] <jimmybrite> yup
#765 [09:29] <jimmybrite> I have rev2
#766 [09:30] <jimmybrite> all is fixed
#767 [09:30] <jimmybrite> or rev b
#768 [09:30] <jimmybrite> whatever its called, the only issue was with the sata2 co0nnectors if I believe
#769 [09:31] <jimmybrite> I also have upgraded my bios since then
#770 [09:31] <jimmybrite> I have the latest "everything"
#771 [09:31] <[z]> Try reducing view distance?
#772 [09:32] <jimmybrite> I just don't like the fact that some games are smooth as silk while others are not, hell my father's 3200 radeon integrated works better with minecraft and at a even higher resolution
#773 [09:32] * oldtopmanserver feels bad for jimmybrite
#773 [09:32] <jimmybrite> I did, and it works somewhat
#774 [09:33] <jimmybrite> don't feel bad, I should've bought a video card but I had budget constraints
#775 [09:33] <jimmybrite> I can still play, but I don't see WHY it's running slower on tiny distance than it is running on FAR on my dad's pc
#776 [09:34] <oldtopmanserver> I feel bad because it runs flawlessly on my AMD Athlon X4 640 with Galaxy (Nvidia) 9600GT.
#777 [09:34] <oldtopmanserver> At max res.
#778 [09:34] <jimmybrite> exactly it's a 9600 DEDICATED card
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#780 [09:34] <jimmybrite> anything igp sucks, but I thought it would have been enough for minecraft when my dad's igp worked so flawlessly
#781 [09:35] <jimmybrite> I also feel like intel's putting that gpu just for convenience or media encoding
#782 [09:35] <jimmybrite> when I encode hd videos, it's blazingly fast
#783 [09:36] <jimmybrite> I tried running y gpu @ 1900, and it gave me like 5 extra fps in the gta4 benchmark
#784 [09:36] <jimmybrite> 1900 is pointless when my mem is running at only 1333
#785 [09:39] <jimmybrite> I also bought an aftermarket heatsink fan, the cooler master hyper212 plus, because I didn't trust the stocker, it didnt really wanna snap all 4 corners into place and the processor was going close to or over the max temp of the cpu after trying to re-seat the heatsink one night
#786 [09:40] <jimmybrite> I also tried the depth of field mod which if i'm not mistaken as a modified renderer? it did work a bit but it felt weird having that fov on a 5:4 monitor
#787 [09:43] <jimmybrite> I guess it's a waiting game now, I read that redhat is developping a driver for the sandybridge gpu's, sucks that I don't use fedora/rhel.... ubuntu 11.04 SHOULD have better suppoort for the sandybridge, tho not 100% support
#788 [09:43] <jimmybrite> throught xorg-edgers
#789 [09:43] <[z]> Try it in windows?
#790 [09:44] <[z]> Then you'll at least be able to see if it is just drivers
#791 [09:44] <jimmybrite> I did, I run windows like 90% of the time
#792 [09:44] <jimmybrite> minecraft just wont run with my current rig, it worked on my x850xt tho
#793 [09:45] <jimmybrite> wont run in linux I mean
#794 [09:45] <[z]> So it's fine in windows?
#795 [09:45] <jimmybrite> not really
#796 [09:45] <jimmybrite> it runs way smoother on a shittier rig that my father has
#797 [09:46] <jimmybrite> tho I can run it, those stutters/slowdowns or bogdownhs are getting on my nerve, and I hate playing on anything less than normal render
#798 [09:46] <jimmybrite> I just thought some people might have had experience with my cpu/gpu in the past and were able to make it run smooth
#799 [09:47] <[z]> Are you using smooth lighting?
#800 [09:48] <jimmybrite> no, but to be honest, fast/fancy or smooth does not make much difference
#801 [09:48] <jimmybrite> it seems like it's a driver fail to be honest
#802 [09:48] <jimmybrite> I have the latest drivers also
#803 [09:49] <jimmybrite> from what i've read people with older intel GMA drivers were not having the same issues as me
#804 [09:49] <jimmybrite> like gma 915
#805 [09:49] <[z]> Maybe just wait for new drivers then...
#806 [09:50] <[z]> Or get a cheap dedicated card
#807 [09:50] <jimmybrite> Yeah no cash now at all
#808 [09:51] <jimmybrite> ahhh notch, why java, why
#809 [09:51] <[z]> It's not java that makes it GPU-intensive, it's lack of optimization
#810 [09:52] <jimmybrite> oh sure, I know that
#811 [09:52] <jimmybrite> it's still a hog
#812 [09:54] <jimmybrite> I see it like running gta4 thought a virtual machine no matter what you do it'll be slow
#813 [09:54] <jimmybrite> or running a game with wine in linux, it's just not the best option
#814 [09:55] <jimmybrite> also like I said I tried another renderer and it didn't help much
#815 [09:55] <jimmybrite> I tried java 7 also... didn't help much either
#816 [09:56] <jimmybrite> Here I was hating on ati/amd in the past for their crap drivers, intel is worse
#817 [09:57] <jimmybrite> How is it that I can run nfs shift @ 1280x1024 on medium/high setting but can barely play minecraft
#818 [10:00] <jimmybrite> I almost wanna try win xp 64 to see it it'll help, lol
#819 [10:00] <jimmybrite> no dx 11 support tho
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#826 [10:50] <bokaholic> Anyone here use MCAdmin for hosting?
#827 [10:51] <BarryCarlyon> Isn't MCadmin the one with the developer back door......
#828 [10:52] * bokaholic shrugs. o.o
#828 [10:52] * bokaholic hasn't heard anyone having used it personally complain yet..
#828 [10:52] <BarryCarlyon> I checker it is.
#829 [10:52] <BarryCarlyon> http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/minecraft/77786-avoid-mc-admin
#830 [10:53] <bokaholic> "Welp, already got a pretty big world on it and I don't think we all want to start over again. :o
#831 [10:53] <bokaholic> -"
#832 [10:53] * bokaholic is used to mudd chatting. Yeek.
#832 [10:54] <bokaholic> Is there a way I can transfer the world over?
#833 [10:54] * bokaholic likes her current multiplayer world.
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#834 [10:55] <bokaholic> Hmmm.
#835 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Transfer what world, to what?
#836 [10:59] <bokaholic> The world that MCadmin created for my server to the Minecraft_Server.exe folder.
#837 [10:59] * bokaholic is trying it.
#837 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#838 [10:59] <BarryCarlyon> bokaholic: should be able to. Since mcadmin just adjusts the server not the world afaik.
#839 [11:00] * bokaholic attemps. "Okie.. It's working now.. Sweet.."
#839 [11:00] * bokaholic dances.
#839 [11:00] <bokaholic> Is there a list online of commands to use?
#840 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> "help"
#841 [11:02] <Kealper> grey
#842 [11:03] <Kealper> download this program i made that is totally not a virus
#843 [11:03] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/Draw.exe
#844 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#845 [11:05] <Kealper> it's awesome....it'll make you feel like you're in kindergarten again
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#847 [11:07] <Kealper> you know you want to download it...lol
#848 [11:10] <AG_Scott> Kealper, compile a linux binary? o:
#849 [11:10] <AG_Scott> or just give me the source :D
#850 [11:10] <Kealper> runs fine under wine, from what i've been told :/
#851 [11:10] <AG_Scott> oh okay
#852 [11:11] <AG_Scott> yep it does
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#854 [11:12] <Kealper> hmm...shows an accepted connection that was instantly lost...it's kinda dumb without being connected to the server lol
#855 [11:12] <Kealper> it's a collaborative sketchpad
#856 [11:13] <AG_Scott> :/
#857 [11:13] <AG_Scott> i thought it was connected
#858 [11:13] <Kealper> iono...try restarting it?
#859 [11:13] <AG_Scott> I really want to take a nap.
#860 [11:13] <Kealper> oh lol
#861 [11:14] <AG_Scott> Last time I took a nap with contacts in, I woke up and they felt like glue.
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#863 [11:14] <Kealper> :o
#864 [11:14] <AG_Scott> squirt some Elmer's in your eye.
#865 [11:14] <AG_Scott> it's not fun
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#867 [11:17] <Kealper> who drew a phalus >.>
#868 [11:17] <Kealper> phallus*
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#870 [11:23] <AG_Scott> Kealper, :D
#871 [11:24] <Kealper> also...it looks like you were connected, i guess my client disconnected like half a second after you connected to it
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#873 [11:24] <Kealper> it wasn't specific in the logs, it just wrote "client connected!" or "client disconnected!" lol
#874 [11:25] * Kealper made the server actually give a bit more detailed info
#874 [11:36] <AG_Scott> ah i see
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#882 [12:16] <paradox> hi
#883 [12:17] <paradox> can I get help with mods here? when installing mods do I need to do anything to my server ?
#884 [12:17] <Morrolan> Paradox: Client mods only work in singleplayer.
#885 [12:17] <Morrolan> Or are you talking about bukkit plugins?
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#887 [12:17] <paradox> oh singleplayer only? that sucks
#888 [12:18] <paradox> i'm talking about like, the airship mod, or stackables mod
#889 [12:18] <Silent_Hero> Mojang is sooo annoying >_>
#890 [12:18] <Silent_Hero> I ordered Minecraft 2 weeks before beta
#891 [12:18] <Silent_Hero> And I get it now?
#892 [12:18] <Morrolan> And?
#893 [12:18] <Morrolan> Haha. XD
#894 [12:18] <Silent_Hero> And I'm not viable for updates
#895 [12:18] <Morrolan> Jesus, something must have went terribly wrong.
#896 [12:18] <Silent_Hero> >_>
#897 [12:19] <Silent_Hero> Notch ya prick >_>
#898 [12:19] <Silent_Hero> & He overcharged me
#899 [12:19] <Morrolan> I've never seen something like this. When was beta again? More than a month ago I think?
#900 [12:19] <paradox> do you not get updates for free if you didn't buy the game before beta? o_O
#901 [12:20] <Silent_Hero> Nope.
#902 [12:20] <Morrolan> Paradox: You get any updates to the game for free, but no possible addons.
#903 [12:20] <paradox> addons?
#904 [12:20] <Silent_Hero> ^
#905 [12:20] <Silent_Hero> I heard any UPDATES/Patches
#906 [12:20] <Morrolan> Nope. Only addons.
#907 [12:20] <Silent_Hero> Oh
#908 [12:20] <paradox> what are addons?
#909 [12:20] <Morrolan> You get updates/patches for free, no matter when you bought it. ;)
#910 [12:20] <Silent_Hero> ^
#911 [12:20] <Silent_Hero> And I feel better now >_>
#912 [12:21] <Silent_Hero> But he still owes me £2.64
#913 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Alpha users get all expansions beyond the final release for free. Beta doesn't
#914 [12:21] <lukegb> So when notch makes Minecraft: T-Rex edition, Alpha users will get it for free
#915 [12:21] <Morrolan> Paradox: Addons would be something which adds a lot of new content after the final release.
#916 [12:21] <lukegb> :D
#917 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> Both Alpha and Beta get updates, bug fixes, and everything, including the final release
#918 [12:21] <paradox> oh okay
#919 [12:21] <Morrolan> And another two happy customers. :D
#920 [12:21] <Silent_Hero> :P
#921 [12:22] <Silent_Hero> Thanks guys.
#922 [12:22] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
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#924 [12:22] <Silent_Hero> I don't mind paying an extra £10 for an addon
#925 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> There hasn't even been talk of any addons/expansions yet
#926 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> So that's a long ways away yet.
#927 [12:23] <Silent_Hero> All i have to do now is to torrent for my Brother.
#928 [12:23] <Morrolan> Uhum.
#929 [12:23] <Silent_Hero> He is unwilling to pay for Minecraft
#930 [12:23] <Morrolan> Ah, just don't expect any support for the pirated version then. ;)
#931 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Does he play it? Does he enjoy it?
#932 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Then he has no right to refuse paying for it
#933 [12:24] <Silent_Hero> He wants to try it out.
#934 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> "try it out"
#935 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> We've heard that excuse here before
#936 [12:24] <Silent_Hero> That's what i said...
#937 [12:24] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: I guess if he likes it he'll buy it sooner or later.
#938 [12:25] <Silent_Hero> He was adamant he should no pay.
#939 [12:25] <Morrolan> At the latest when he wants to try out SMP. :D
#940 [12:25] <Silent_Hero> not*
#941 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> People trying to justify pirating the game to "Try it out", or "It's in beta, why shouldn't it be free"
#942 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Or the ever popular, "Notch is a millionare, I have the right to pirate it"
#943 [12:25] <Morrolan> Don't tell me you never pirated a game. ;)
#944 [12:26] <Silent_Hero> I do wonder, Why was it in beta yet it was charged?
#945 [12:26] * GreyVulpine coughs
#945 [12:26] <Silent_Hero> It's the only question I've got towards notch.
#946 [12:26] <Morrolan> Since he needed money to finance the development.
#947 [12:26] <Silent_Hero> I thought he was loaded anyway?
#948 [12:26] <Morrolan> This way investory would actually GET something for their money.
#949 [12:26] <Morrolan> investors*
#950 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> It was already planned in advanced, alpha or "early adopters" get a pretty big discount
#951 [12:27] <Silent_Hero> He was head of Wurm?
#952 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> It would go up in beta
#953 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Notch wasn't loaded before minecraft became popular
#954 [12:27] <Silent_Hero> I was told he sold wurm.
#955 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Um, no? He was one of the devs who worked on Wurm..
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#958 [12:29] <JonBeard> Hello, is anyone there?
#959 [12:30] <JonBeard> I am getting Java crashes
#960 [12:30] <Morrolan> JonBeard: Yea.
#961 [12:30] <JonBeard> And Just bought the game, however it keeps crashing :(
#962 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Got any java error logs?
#963 [12:30] <JonBeard> I am on an iMac, bootcamped into 7
#964 [12:30] <JonBeard> Let me see one moment here
#965 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Could you paste one at pastebin.com?
#966 [12:31] <JonBeard> Problem signature:
#967 [12:31] <JonBeard> Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
#968 [12:31] <JonBeard> Application Name: javaw.exe
#969 [12:31] <JonBeard> Application Version: 6.0.220.4
#970 [12:31] <JonBeard> Application Timestamp: 4c908d15
#971 [12:31] <JonBeard> Fault Module Name: atioglxx.dll_unloaded
#972 [12:31] <JonBeard> http://pastebin.com/Bz2csXVw
#973 [12:31] <JonBeard> Sorry about that
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#975 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Looks like.. possibly your ATI drivers?
#976 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you try updating them?
#977 [12:32] <JonBeard> Hmm I can try
#978 [12:32] <JonBeard> Let me see here
#979 [12:32] <JonBeard> Also, is download version capable of multiplayer?
#980 [12:32] <Karnigel> Ich suche jemand der deutsch kann. Gibt es hier so jemanden?
#981 [12:32] <Karnigel> SOmone who can german?
#982 [12:32] <Morrolan> JonBeard: Yea.
#983 [12:33] <Morrolan> Karnigel: Ja
#984 [12:33] <Karnigel> :)
#985 [12:33] <Karnigel> Vielleicht kannst du mir ja helfen ich habe ein Proplem mit dem eigenen Server :(
#986 [12:33] <Karnigel> sollen wir in ein wuerry das wir den rest nicht stören?
#987 [12:33] <Morrolan> Jo, ist wohl besser.
#988 [12:33] <JonBeard> You guys are fabulous, just updated and works <3
#989 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Good to hear.
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#991 [12:35] <Karnigel> Hab dir mal en querry geschrieben mit dem Problem
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#995 [12:39] <Morrolan> Hey, what can lead to a "bad login" when connecting to a server hosted on your own network? Never seen this error before.
#996 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Um, make sure the nickname is credited with premium?
#997 [12:44] <Morrolan> Shouldn't it throw an "user is not premium" error then?
#998 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily
#999 [12:45] <Morrolan> Ok, I'll ask him.
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#1001 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> If the user has the files already, but the nickname is not credited, the game will bypass the "User is not premium" message, and still let him into the game. However, the server also authenticates the name
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#1004 [12:46] <Silent_Hero> I need help.
#1005 [12:46] <Silent_Hero> I need to find a Albinio Dolphin.
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#1007 [12:46] <Silent_Hero> Tips please :D
#1008 [12:46] <Morrolan> You might want to switch to #biology then...
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#1014 [12:47] <VoxelHead> mmm zenon
#1015 [12:47] <Silent_Hero> On minecraft morrolan
#1016 [12:47] <Silent_Hero> Duh
#1017 [12:48] <Morrolan> Ok, the account he's trying to connect with is premium, and the windows firewall is off on both the computer hosting the server and the client.
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#1019 [12:49] <Silent_Hero> I'm getting a new laptop soon...
#1020 [12:50] <Silent_Hero> And I was wondering if i could transfer the game,saved files ect to the other one without paying extra?
#1021 [12:50] <Morrolan> Connecting through localhost works fine, so it must be something with the internal connection.
#1022 [12:50] <Morrolan> Silent_Hero: Euh, yea, sure.
#1023 [12:50] <Morrolan> You can find the files in %appdata%\.minecraft
#1024 [12:51] <Silent_Hero> Oh thanks
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#1026 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Possibly then, make sure firewalls are configured properly
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#1029 [12:59] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: The windows firewall is turned off on both machines, and he's not using any security suite.
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#1031 [12:59] <Morrolan> Pinging the machines works fine, but connecting to the Minecraft server doesn't. ./
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#1033 [13:00] <helpneeded> hello, i was wondering if i could get some help?
#1034 [13:01] <DreadLindwyrm> Just ask the problem.
#1035 [13:03] <helpneeded> when i load a saved level on the old minecraft (playing in browser) it stops the keyboard after it has loaded, is there a way to get the keyboard to work again?>
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#1037 [13:10] <Morrolan> Little update: He tried it with the downloadable client now (was using the browser version up to now) and now it isn't able to connect to minecraft.net
#1038 [13:10] <Morrolan> The firewall is still disabled.
#1039 [13:11] <helpneeded> in safari on a mac if that helps
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#1041 [13:15] <Morrolan> Another update: Connecting from another PC with the downloaded client works, the server console says that he is logging in, but then the connection times out.
#1042 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, something's preventing that client from authenticating to minecraft
#1043 [13:16] <Morrolan> Oh, and we're back to bad login now he says. :/
#1044 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Strange, um.
#1045 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall of the client?
#1046 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> launcher - Options button - force game update
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#1048 [13:20] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: While googling I stumbled across someone telling to look wheter there's a line with minecraft in C://Windows/System32/etc/drivers/etc/host and to delete it if there is one.
#1049 [13:20] <Morrolan> Could this be the cause here?
#1050 [13:20] <Morrolan> Oh, and the reinstall didn't work btw. :/
#1051 [13:20] <Morrolan> wheter there's a line containing*
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#1054 [13:24] <tatupe> Hiya
#1055 [13:24] <tatupe> Somebody can help me with gift codes payment?
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#1057 [13:26] <Morrolan> Tatupe: What do you need?
#1058 [13:26] <tatupe> im getting the processing transaction for an hour now :D
#1059 [13:27] <Morrolan> Tatupe: Oh, that's not good. I suggest you wait another hour, and then you can close the window. If you then don't recieve the codes within a day send a mail to payment@mojang.com
#1060 [13:28] <Morrolan> If you have been charged the money, that is.
#1061 [13:28] <tatupe> okay =/
#1062 [13:28] <Morrolan> Sorry that I can't help you further, it seems something is overloaded atm. :/
#1063 [13:28] <tatupe> if they see the payment ill just say them to send gift code to my email.
#1064 [13:28] <tatupe> okay =)
#1065 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> tatupe - You paid for a gift code?
#1066 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> It can usually take a few hours, sometimes it won't send an email to you, but check your profile page on minecraft.net. Gift codes will show up there
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#1068 [13:32] <tatupe> i closed the page =/
#1069 [13:32] <tatupe> dang
#1070 [13:33] <tatupe> whoah... im no going to play minecraft today =/
#1071 [13:34] <tatupe> i send a message =/
#1072 [13:34] <tatupe> sent*
#1073 [13:35] <tatupe> Where is notch wandering currently?
#1074 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> He's in sweden
#1075 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Has been for weeks
#1076 [13:36] <tatupe> yae i know...
#1077 [13:36] <tatupe> i live in finland
#1078 [13:36] <tatupe> next to the sweden.
#1079 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> as opposed to that other Finland? (:
#1080 [13:37] <tatupe> wut? :D
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#1082 [13:39] <tatupe> OMG this sucks...
#1083 [13:39] <tatupe> i think i never get minecraft =/
#1084 [13:39] <tatupe> finally tought "HELL YEAA today im going to kill some pigs!"
#1085 [13:40] <Karnigel1> Morrolan?
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#1087 [13:40] <tatupe> Karnigel, you know anything about a Gift Code issue?
#1088 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> tatupe: did your finding account get debited?
#1089 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> er, funding account, rather
#1090 [13:41] <tatupe> i dont know, i made a new account (iTmu) for that, but currently im just wandering around internet searching for Kappische
#1091 [13:41] <tatupe> :D
#1092 [13:41] <VoxelHead> =D
#1093 [13:42] <tatupe> the game should go to account named Badugga
#1094 [13:42] <tatupe> Sry i cant whisper
#1095 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> Right, but did the source of money, the PayPal or bank account, get debited the EUR15?
#1096 [13:42] <tatupe> i think yea ?
#1097 [13:42] <tatupe> :D
#1098 [13:43] <tatupe> sry bout my smileys...
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#1100 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> Okay, then you should see the Gift Code appear on the profile page of the account that made the purchase; if not now, than in a few hours
#1101 [13:43] <tatupe> okay.
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#1103 [13:45] <Karnigel> so wieder richtiger nick
#1104 [13:46] <tatupe> Oh my god... i checked the bank account Mojang didnt fund anything!
#1105 [13:47] <tatupe> well, from the bank account
#1106 [13:47] <tatupe> i dunno about Visa
#1107 [13:48] <tatupe> This sucks....
#1108 [13:51] <tatupe> Yea im going to quit and let Mojang AB solve its payment problems...
#1109 [13:51] <Karnigel> schade nu ischer weg -.-
#1110 [13:51] <Karnigel> sonst jemand da der deutsch kann und mir helfen kann?
#1111 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> Ich kann eich bischien Deutschsprache
#1112 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> eun*
#1113 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> ein**
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#1115 [13:57] <aetherian> oh god, I'd hate to be a non-english speaker and have to understand english internet speak
#1116 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, try being in a channel where french people are using internet shorthand
#1117 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> That's even more confusing
#1118 [13:58] <aetherian> heh
#1119 [13:58] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1120 [13:58] <aetherian> I'm trying to learn french...
#1121 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> Karnigel: Wo kann ich Sie helfen?
#1122 [13:59] <aetherian> I can't imagine reading, if they even do it, internet shorthand in other characters (chinese, etc)
#1123 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> Chinese and Cantonese _are_ shorthand (:
#1124 [14:00] <aetherian> yeah, that's why it'd be weird to reduce it more
#1125 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> I remember being so confused at Mr6... Merci, Mr = Mer, 6 = ci
#1126 [14:01] <aetherian> oh wow
#1127 [14:01] <aetherian> there's a reason I refrain from using too many abbreviations... the occasional one, sure, but not all the time
#1128 [14:01] <aetherian> let me tell you, it gets me killed in fps games
#1129 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1130 [14:02] <aetherian> every time someone get's a their/you're/it's wrong, a nethack player eats a kitten
#1131 [14:04] <DreadLindwyrm> Mmmm tasty kittens
#1132 [14:04] <VoxelHead> =)
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#1134 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: I know my grammar and syntax, and I still screw up on lie/lay/laid.
#1135 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> (so I just avoid constructions that call upon those words)
#1136 [14:06] <aetherian> isn't lay and laid the same?
#1137 [14:06] <aetherian> and don't forget lied
#1138 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> Nope
#1139 [14:06] <aetherian> not exactly the same, sure
#1140 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> lied -> to have told an untruth
#1141 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> it has nothing to do with one thing being atop another
#1142 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> "I {lie,lay,laid} the book upon the table." all mean different things.
#1143 [14:07] <Morrolan> I lie the book upon the table doesn't make that much sense though. ^^
#1144 [14:07] <aetherian> wait wait, isn't laid the past tense of one those? eh, whatever, I never use those words anyway
#1145 [14:07] <Morrolan> Laid is from lay I think.
#1146 [14:07] <aetherian> necessarily is the word I'm never sure of
#1147 [14:07] <Morrolan> from lie the past tense is lied.
#1148 [14:07] <aetherian> and Morrolan, that's what I thought
#1149 [14:08] <aetherian> that too
#1150 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> 'lay' is past tense of 'lie'; and 'lay' is also its own present-tense verb
#1151 [14:08] * DopeGhoti stabs English in the face
#1151 [14:08] <aetherian> everyone!
#1152 [14:08] <aetherian> learn lojban!
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#1154 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Nah, learn German; it's a> more useful and b> makes frelling sense
#1155 [14:08] <aetherian> learn Slavic
#1156 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> (you just have to learn how to use all 12 forms of 'the' properly)
#1157 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> ...
#1158 [14:09] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: You're the first to say this. :D
#1159 [14:09] <aetherian> I still say we should learn lojban
#1160 [14:09] <Morrolan> Everyone I talked to about learning german was like "omg, it's sooo hard."
#1161 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: it's really not though
#1162 [14:09] <aetherian> I learned a little German once
#1163 [14:09] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: It's my native language, so I can't judge. :D
#1164 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> They just see the dreaded '12 thes' and run away
#1165 [14:09] <aetherian> I visit Switzerland often, so it was somewhat useful
#1166 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> I'm really glad I spent the time to learn German; it's actually come in quite handy at unexpected times.
#1167 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> It has also greatly improved my English.
#1168 [14:10] <aetherian> nonono, lied means song
#1169 [14:10] <aetherian> :D
#1170 [14:10] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1171 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> no, that's Lied.
#1172 [14:11] <Morrolan> Where are you from DopeGhoti?
#1173 [14:11] <aetherian> eh whatever, I can't be bothered to capitalize
#1174 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Vermont, US; presently living in Arizona.
#1175 [14:11] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: add me to the VOP list <3
#1176 [14:11] <aetherian> except the I's
#1177 [14:11] <aetherian> everyone should capitalize I's, when used in the context such as "I am"
#1178 [14:12] <aetherian> a lonely "i" makes me twitch at times
#1179 [14:12] <Morrolan> Oh, since you said "it also greatly improved my English" I assumed that it wasn't your native language.
#1180 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: It is, but so much of English syntactical rules are lifted wholesale from German that it made some English syntactical nuances more clear.
#1181 [14:13] <lukegb> s/much of/many of the/
#1182 [14:13] <aetherian> feh, I'm far too attached to English
#1183 [14:13] <Silent_Hero> Morrolan: Or that he was spekin lyk tis
#1184 [14:13] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Yea, that could very well be. Never thought about if to be honest.
#1185 [14:13] <Morrolan> about it*
#1186 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: heh, yes.
#1187 [14:13] <lukegb> ^_^
#1188 [14:13] <VoxelHead> =]
#1189 [14:13] <aetherian> oh, iron.
#1190 [14:13] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: does that warrant a /cs flags #minecrafthelp lukegb vop? ;D
#1191 [14:14] <aetherian> large rods of it
#1192 [14:15] <aetherian> hmm
#1193 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: maybe
#1194 [14:15] <aetherian> you're saying being a grammar nazi can get promotions?
#1195 [14:15] <aetherian> hmmm
#1196 [14:15] <aetherian> tell all mib_ people ;)
#1197 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> No, I'm saying that anyone on IRC that cares about being cogent and understandable might merit consideration for otherwise meaningless magical punctuation.
#1198 [14:16] <VoxelHead> Magicalless meaning.
#1199 [14:16] <aetherian> punctuation, you say?
#1200 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: such as the magic + you bear.
#1201 [14:16] <aetherian> oh right
#1202 [14:16] <aetherian> client I use doesn't have the symbols, sadly
#1203 [14:17] <aetherian> you know what I think
#1204 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> Not being a telepath, no.
#1205 [14:18] <aetherian> I think anyone who can't add apostrophes to contractions has no right to use them
#1206 [14:19] <Morrolan> Ok, that guy I helpead earlier is back. Little aggregation of the situation:
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#1208 [14:20] <Morrolan> Java is up to date, Minecraft is reinstalled, Windows Firewall is disabled, and yet he gets a "Bad login" error while connecting to a server in the LAN:
#1209 [14:20] <Morrolan> Any idea?
#1210 [14:20] <DreadLindwyrm> capitalisation of username or password
#1211 [14:20] <Morrolan> While logging in at the launcher you mean?
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#1213 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - And he's using the new launcher?
#1214 [14:21] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: I assume so, since he just downloaded it half an hour ago.
#1215 [14:22] <Morrolan> Sometimes he's also getting a connection timed out, but most of the time it's a bad login.
#1216 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> He's not running any other firewall software other than windows firewall?
#1217 [14:23] <Morrolan> He was running Mc Afee, but he deinstalled it and restarted his PC. Didn't work.
#1218 [14:23] <Morrolan> I actually just told him to disable it, but he removed it anyway. XD
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#1220 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> Morrolan ntp
#1221 [14:23] <VoxelHead> Morrolan: (ntp) If your client cannot log you into Minecraft.net, and you are able to get to the site, check your computer's time and date. If it's too far off, you can't connect to secure sites, of which Minecraft's authentication server is one.
#1222 [14:23] <VoxelHead> Morrolan: (ntp) To prevent this from happening repeatedly, look into setting up your computer to use NTP to keep its clock accurate.
#1223 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Dope, it isn't a client unable to log into minecraft.net
#1224 [14:24] <DreadLindwyrm> Does anyone else get the same issue on that LAN?
#1225 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> It's giving a "Bad Login" message when trying to log onto a local server
#1226 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Ah, my bad.
#1227 [14:24] <Morrolan> DreadLindwyrm: He tried to connect from two different computers, but it didn't work.
#1228 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> not "You need to log in!" but "bad login"?
#1229 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1230 [14:24] <Morrolan> Yea.
#1231 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Has the account been confirmed as paid-for?
#1232 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Usually from a client not authenticating correctly with minecraft.net
#1233 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1234 [14:25] <Morrolan> Connecting locally works. (Via localhost on the server which is hosting)
#1235 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> ?? hosts
#1236 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/hosts
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#1238 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> ah, floodsky
#1239 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1240 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> #minecrafthelp win/hosts
#1241 [14:25] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1242 [14:25] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1243 [14:25] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1244 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Is the server running on the default port? How does he have port forwarding set up?
#1245 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> What kind of router or router/modem is it?
#1246 [14:26] <Morrolan> Already stumbled across a forum post telling to look wheter there is a line containing minecraft.net in there, and he said no. I can ask him to pastebin the whole file though if you want.
#1247 [14:27] <Morrolan> And yes, it's running on the default port, no port forwarding done. (Since he's connecting internally.)
#1248 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Okay. How about the computer that he's connecting from? You said that he disabled the firewalls on the server?
#1249 [14:28] <Morrolan> Yea, on both the server and client.
#1250 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Did you have him update java, or completely uninstall and reinstall java?
#1251 [14:29] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Update I guess.
#1252 [14:29] <Morrolan> His router: DIR-300
#1253 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> dlink?
#1254 [14:30] <Morrolan> yea
#1255 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: has he tried running under a new, pristine, Windows user profile?
#1256 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Haven't heard of any problems with that.. shouldn't need to set anything up in there for an internal setup
#1257 [14:31] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: For the server or the client?
#1258 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: client.
#1259 [14:31] <Morrolan> Ok, I'll tell him.
#1260 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> Also, if there are any mods on either the server or the client, try removing any and all of them.
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#1262 [14:46] <Morrolan> Ok, the new account didn't help either
#1263 [14:47] <Morrolan> And nope, he is not using any mods.
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#1270 [15:20] <Morrolan> Completely unrelated: Bersirc spit out this line of text, what does this mean? : [DEBUG] Unhandled message: 330 [ :apocalypse.esper.net 330 Morrolan *randomuserhere**randomuserhereagain* :is logged in as ]
#1271 [15:22] <Morrolan> Oh, nevermind, stupid me, was part of my /whois command which didn't get processed properly it seems. ^^
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#1273 [15:25] <Tobbi_AfK> hi dudes
#1274 [15:25] <Morrolan> Hey
#1275 [15:25] <NeXXor> wow never saw a irc channel with so much users :D
#1276 [15:26] <Morrolan> Yeah, it can get rather full in here. Most aren't active though.
#1277 [15:27] <Morrolan> #Minecraft has many more though, and they're REALLY active. (aka spam ;) )
#1278 [15:29] <NeXXor> ^^
#1279 [15:29] <VoxelHead> :-)
#1280 [15:29] <NeXXor> but the reason why im here is another ^^
#1281 [15:30] <NeXXor> dont know how often u hear this but
#1282 [15:30] <NeXXor> i get blackscreens every 1-5 min
#1283 [15:30] <NeXXor> no crack no mod only hd texture pack
#1284 [15:30] <Morrolan> Already updated Java and reinstalled Minecraft I guess?
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#1286 [15:31] <NeXXor> yes
#1287 [15:31] <Morrolan> Tried lowering the graphics?
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#1289 [15:31] <NeXXor> i search solutions at google but i only found shit ^^
#1290 [15:31] <NeXXor> no but i think thats not my prolem
#1291 [15:31] <NeXXor> ^^
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#1293 [15:31] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1294 [15:32] <ann> is the server down ?
#1295 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> NeXXor: I presume you're running Windows?
#1296 [15:32] <Zemedelphos> Nexxor: what's yoru render distance?
#1297 [15:32] <Zemedelphos> your*
#1298 [15:32] <NeXXor> far
#1299 [15:32] <Zemedelphos> Turn it to normal.
#1300 [15:32] <oldtopman> ann: Not for me
#1301 [15:32] <NeXXor> yes win 7
#1302 [15:32] <NeXXor> ok
#1303 [15:32] <Zemedelphos> That should stop it
#1304 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> 64- or 32-bit?
#1305 [15:33] <NeXXor> 64 i think
#1306 [15:33] <Zemedelphos> I get a blackscreen after a while if I use far.
#1307 [15:33] <NeXXor> i look ^^
#1308 [15:33] <NeXXor> yeah 64 bit
#1309 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> NeXXor: and how about your Java installation? 32- or 64-bit?
#1310 [15:33] <NeXXor> 64 bit
#1311 [15:34] <NeXXor> im going to try normal distance
#1312 [15:34] <Morrolan> Jesus, Mojang actually
#1313 [15:34] <NeXXor> see u (i hope not) soon :D
#1314 [15:34] <Morrolan> Mojang is actually winning in the March Mayhem against Vavle*
#1315 [15:34] <Morrolan> (Stupid enter ^^)
#1316 [15:34] <Morrolan> valve*
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#1319 [15:48] <kelm> mojang 1st
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#1322 [15:50] <aetherian> boo vavle
#1323 [15:52] <kelm> and then bioware/mojang ?
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#1325 [15:54] <Supa> A little help with a server thing?
#1326 [15:55] <LoRDTrevor> i can be of assistance
#1327 [15:55] <LoRDTrevor> except that im on a phone at school
#1328 [15:55] <Supa> maybe you're able to multitask for this once :)
#1329 [15:55] <Supa> does the .exe version of minecraft server save the world anywhere?
#1330 [15:55] <Morrolan> Yep
#1331 [15:56] <Supa> Oo where could that be?
#1332 [15:56] <Morrolan> In the folder where you placed the .exe should be a folder called "world".
#1333 [15:56] <Supa> Thanks alot :)
#1334 [15:57] <Supa> Would this world be compatible with another server that's in .jar version?
#1335 [15:58] <LoRDTrevor> yes
#1336 [15:58] <Supa> saved my day.. or well few months :) thanks again!
#1337 [15:58] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#1338 [15:58] <LoRDTrevor> yw
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#1340 [16:09] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
#1341 [16:18] * VoxelHead is away: campus
#1341 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Going down for maintenance.
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#1347 [16:43] <QueezyD> im a new player, but every time I try to play after about 2-3 minutes my screen will go black, no error message or anything is popping up, just a black screen. anyone have any clue why?
#1348 [16:43] <xales> How much RAM does your computer have?
#1349 [16:44] <Bob_Sack> dxdiag really should be a requirement to post help here ;)
#1350 [16:45] <Thoatt> ??> win/dxdiag
#1351 [16:45] <Thoatt> ??> QueezyD win/dxdiag
#1352 [16:45] <VoxelHead> QueezyD: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1353 [16:45] <VoxelHead> QueezyD: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1354 [16:47] <xolotl> QueezyD: Is the box completely frozen at that point, or just the Minecraft window?
#1355 [16:47] <QueezyD> thats a big process =P i was hoping for a quicker answer atm, ill have to worry about it later when i have time i guess...and its just minecraft, nothing else freezes.
#1356 [16:48] <xolotl> QueezyD: Have you played around with the video settings at all? (ie: limiting the framerate, turning off smooth lighting, etc)
#1357 [16:48] <QueezyD> not yet, ive only opened it about 3-4 times to be honest
#1358 [16:49] <QueezyD> ill play with it a bit, and if im still having problems ill come back with actual info =P
#1359 [16:50] <xolotl> As xales mentioned, it could possibly be related to RAM; maybe keep F3 on for a bit and keep an eye on the memory usage (upper-right corner). Would make playing the game a little annoying though
#1360 [16:50] <QueezyD> ill try that as well, i have 8 gigs of ram tho
#1361 [16:51] <xolotl> ah, k, so unlikely.
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#1364 [16:53] <joe> hi
#1365 [16:54] <joe> sagt mal weis einer von euch warum mit in win7 das MC immer abschmiert sobald ich in den options den sound einschalten will?
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#1367 [16:56] <owskie> im haveing trouble with the java error : internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out
#1368 [16:56] <owskie> anyone know how to fix
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#1370 [16:58] <owskie> no one?
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#1372 [17:19] <VoxelHead> mmm fuzzmz
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#1375 [17:21] <smartinsen> Hi. A friend of mine get an error when trying to run .exe, and he get the same error on your site /game/, the error code he gets is "begin error report aldce528" anyone knows what the problem is? :)
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#1378 [17:23] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go o_O
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#1381 [17:25] <Wug> chanserv wins
#1382 [17:25] <Wug> what does greybot do? I smell a bot
#1383 [17:25] <Chr|s> Wug: I wonder what gives that away\
#1384 [17:26] <Thoatt> ...duh?
#1385 [17:26] <Chr|s> !seen Kealper
#1386 [17:26] <GreyBot> I last saw Kealper (kealper@xales.info) 2hrs 35mins 11secs ago, talking in #. They were saying: what channel redirect?
#1387 [17:26] <Kealper> rawr
#1388 [17:26] <Chr|s> lol
#1389 [17:26] <Thoatt> !seen GreyVulpine
#1390 [17:26] <GreyBot> I last saw GreyVulpine (~GV@devious.fox.at.play) 1min 9secs ago, joining #thepurplecube.
#1391 [17:26] <Chr|s> thats one of many things GreyBot does
#1392 [17:26] <LoRDTrevor> !seen notch
#1393 [17:26] <GreyBot> I found no results for your !Seen query.
#1394 [17:26] <Thoatt> well well well....
#1395 [17:27] <Thoatt> !seen xNotch
#1396 [17:27] <GreyBot> I found no results for your !Seen query.
#1397 [17:27] <Thoatt> =/
#1398 [17:27] <SkiingPenguins> o' snap
#1399 [17:28] <Wug> maybe greybot got reset
#1400 [17:28] <Wug> !help
#1401 [17:28] <Wug> you are not greybot
#1402 [17:28] <Wug> ... what does !reinstall do
#1403 [17:29] <Thoatt> !reinstall
#1404 [17:29] <Wug> ok
#1405 [17:29] <Wug> i was afraid to do it lest the bot kill itself
#1406 [17:29] <Wug> !fa
#1407 [17:29] <Wug> !faq
#1408 [17:29] <mitpatterson> what is the " !paid <user>" do i wonder?
#1409 [17:29] <mitpatterson> !paid mitpatterson
#1410 [17:29] <Thoatt> !paid Thoatt
#1411 [17:29] <Wug> !paid derp
#1412 [17:29] <mitpatterson> on, sweet
#1413 [17:29] <Thoatt> !paid Thoatt
#1414 [17:30] <Wug> !paid derp
#1415 [17:30] <Kealper> !disable
#1416 [17:30] <Thoatt> it's got a cooldown lol
#1417 [17:30] <mitpatterson> NOOOOO
#1418 [17:30] <Wug> apparently derp isnt paid
#1419 [17:30] <Thoatt> Kealper: Y U NO MAKE ME OWNER? >.>
#1420 [17:30] <mitpatterson> thats a nice way to check if you should bother giving someone support, lol
#1421 [17:30] <Kealper> because you just got here a few days ago and i am too lazy to add you
#1422 [17:30] <Thoatt> lol
#1423 [17:31] <Wug> what, you get ops by just asking for them?
#1424 [17:31] <Kealper> because it's a hard coded list..which means recompiling/reloading that module
#1425 [17:31] <Kealper> not chan ops
#1426 [17:31] <Thoatt> ....
#1427 [17:31] <Thoatt> lol
#1428 [17:31] <mitpatterson> so the "owners" are they just game owners or what?
#1429 [17:31] <Thoatt> no
#1430 [17:31] <Kealper> i'm just talking about the ability to use commands when it's disabled
#1431 [17:31] <Thoatt> It's the 'owners' of AuBot
#1432 [17:31] <Kealper> Thoatt: not even that, more like the owners of that module lol
#1433 [17:31] <mitpatterson> who is the "owner' of aubot?
#1434 [17:32] * Kealper raises hand
#1434 [17:32] <Thoatt> well... basically the same thing lol
#1435 [17:32] <mitpatterson> lol
#1436 [17:32] <Kealper> !enable
#1437 [17:32] <Thoatt> and bacon strips, and bacon strips... and bacon strips...
#1438 [17:32] <mitpatterson> i know a friend i was talking to today plays minecraft from a torrent, i scoaled(sp) him for it
#1439 [17:33] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#1440 [17:33] <Kealper> Thoatt: viola
#1441 [17:33] <Thoatt> wewtsaus
#1442 [17:33] <mitpatterson> Kealper, so how does your bot have access to who has paid for minecraft?
#1443 [17:33] <Thoatt> magic
#1444 [17:33] <Thoatt> obviously.
#1445 [17:34] <Thoatt> Kealper is a wizard... along with GreyVulpine.
#1446 [17:34] <SkiingPenguins> definately
#1447 [17:34] <Kealper> it put on it's robe and wizard hat, and now it can see all
#1448 [17:34] <Thoatt> definitely*
#1449 [17:34] <SkiingPenguins> i knew i spelt it wrong
#1450 [17:35] <Thoatt> http://d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/
#1451 [17:35] <Wug> something useful it would help if you programmed aubot to do
#1452 [17:35] <mitpatterson> so seriously, how does it get access to a list?
#1453 [17:35] <Wug> would be to automatically respond to all commands with queries to the user who used it
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#1455 [17:35] <Thoatt> it does if you pm it.
#1456 [17:35] <Wug> i know
#1457 [17:35] <iConquest> noob server admin question: whats the name of the mod that stops users destroying blocks/places they havent created? and also whats the name of the mod that lets people fly?
#1458 [17:35] <Wug> but i mean if you just use it normally
#1459 [17:35] <Wug> !help
#1460 [17:35] <lukegb> Kealper: add me as ownr :<
#1461 [17:36] <lukegb> unoulovemeright :P
#1462 [17:36] <SkiingPenguins> well Wug you want people to see it in the channel
#1463 [17:36] <Thoatt> iConquest: What server are you using?
#1464 [17:36] <iConquest> bukkit
#1465 [17:38] <Thoatt> look here
#1466 [17:38] <Thoatt> http://forums.bukkit.org/forums/plugin-releases.17/
#1467 [17:38] <Thoatt> for a mod with block protection.
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#1469 [17:39] <iConquest> thanks, ive been looking through this:
#1470 [17:39] <iConquest> http://plugins.bukkit.org/#ti=&ta=all&au=
#1471 [17:39] <iConquest> but couldnt find anything
#1472 [17:39] <Thoatt> If you wanted more help with any bukkit specific questions, #bukkit would be more help than us probably. :)
#1473 [17:39] <lukegb> iConquest: also, try #bukkit
#1474 [17:39] <mitpatterson> so Kealper how does your bot access a "list" of paid users?'
#1475 [17:39] <iConquest> cheers everyone :)
#1476 [17:39] <Thoatt> np :D
#1477 [17:39] <Thoatt> mitpatterson: magic... duh
#1478 [17:39] <mitpatterson> i'm being serious
#1479 [17:39] <Kealper> mitpatterson: the same way the game server checks to make sure that people are registered and paid when they log in
#1480 [17:40] * GreyVulpine pokes mitpatterson with:
#1480 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
#1481 [17:40] <mitpatterson> so your bot just sends a query to notches servers?
#1482 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Specifically, that URL
#1483 [17:40] <Thoatt> essentially, yeah
#1484 [17:40] <mitpatterson> ok, that link is cool, lol
#1485 [17:41] <smartinsen> Hi. A friend of mine get an error when trying to run .exe, and he get the same error on your site mineraft.net/game/, the error code he gets is "begin error report aldce528" anyone knows what the problem is? :) it works on minecraft.net/play.jsp
#1486 [17:41] <smartinsen> http://pastebin.com/e7TiR9sf
#1487 [17:41] <smartinsen> there is the error
#1488 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> input == null!
#1489 [17:42] <Thoatt> Does he have a '!' in his windows username?
#1490 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Windows Machine, windows account has a (!)
#1491 [17:42] <smartinsen> hm
#1492 [17:43] <mitpatterson> also, does anyone have any idea why when i used the .exe server file on a windows 2008 server and launch it, try to connect from my client, the server logs show it connecting, and then a general disconnect? and then it acts as if the whole server has been kicked from my network?
#1493 [17:43] <smartinsen> he has tree !!! in his username :P
#1494 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> smartinsen - That would be the problem then
#1495 [17:43] <Wug> lol
#1496 [17:43] <Thoatt> Mystery solved.
#1497 [17:43] <Wug> maybe.
#1498 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> To get around it, tell him to make a new windows account with no exclaimation points.
#1499 [17:44] <Wug> mitpatterson, do you have an aetheros network card
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#1501 [17:44] <mitpatterson> i don't think, its a broadcom chip built into the mobo
#1502 [17:44] <Wug> you've installed the drivers for it?
#1503 [17:44] <VoxelHead> Orange.
#1504 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> mitpatterson - It's probably MC server overloading the NIC, many people have reported issues with this
#1505 [17:44] <Kealper> VoxelHead: Blue.
#1506 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> No solution as of yet.
#1507 [17:45] <Wug> greyvilpine, that tends to happen as people begin to connect
#1508 [17:45] <mitpatterson> hmmm, thats werid, i tried the add on nic i have(a "network everywhere" 10/100 PCI card(was like $15) just to try it
#1509 [17:45] <Wug> it manifests as lag
#1510 [17:45] <Wug> did it work?
#1511 [17:45] <mitpatterson> and i've tried disabiling the firewall complety on the server too(just to make sure it doesn't act funny)
#1512 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Wug, it's not just an atheros thing either.
#1513 [17:46] <Thoatt> Indeed.
#1514 [17:46] <Wug> theres a specific group of cards that come with a bad driver issue or something
#1515 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> The atheros thing, manifests as End of Stream, or Recv failed errors
#1516 [17:46] <Wug> but they also break the interner
#1517 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> But the MC server crapping out the 'net connection, that's more widespread
#1518 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Affects multiple NICs
#1519 [17:46] <Wug> i haven't been hit by it
#1520 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> I can give you several getsatisfaction reports about it.
#1521 [17:47] <Wug> but I was affected by the creeping lag that happens progressively and gets worse
#1522 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't affect everybod.
#1523 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> everybody*
#1524 [17:47] <Wug> with any more than maybe 3 people online
#1525 [17:47] <mitpatterson> does it matter if its on a 100 mbps connection to router vers. 1gbps?
#1526 [17:47] <mitpatterson> would that make a difference?
#1527 [17:47] <Wug> I solved that problem with linux
#1528 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1529 [17:48] <Wug> mitpatterson not unless your internet is faster than 10mbps
#1530 [17:48] <mitpatterson> and to note, i have no one else on the server, its not accecable outside my lan(for not)
#1531 [17:48] <mitpatterson> wug, for not i'm just talking internal LAN, not leaving the lan as of now
#1532 [17:48] <Kealper> happens on my server occasionally and it's got a Realtek RTL8168 :/
#1533 [17:48] <mitpatterson> i'm using it private ip address to connect to it (192.168.2.15)
#1534 [17:48] <Wug> is it a firewall issue
#1535 [17:49] <Thoatt> mitpatterson: It's the nic's fault, not the network, not the internet.
#1536 [17:49] <Thoatt> If he has people connecting to it: no.
#1537 [17:49] <Kealper> mitpatterson: it isn't a problem with your network, it's a problem with the machine's network card driver not being able to keep up with the minecraft server...and the computer doesn't like when that happens
#1538 [17:49] <Wug> he doesnt have people connecting.
#1539 [17:49] <mitpatterson> yah, i mean the log shows "mitpatterson" connected(somethign similar) then the disconect, let me try it right now get the exact message
#1540 [17:49] <Wug> try linux
#1541 [17:50] <Wug> what does the client do
#1542 [17:50] <Thoatt> Wug: He said it happends when 3+ people connect.
#1543 [17:50] <Wug> does it take to long to login?
#1544 [17:50] <Wug> ""
#1545 [17:50] <mitpatterson> Wug, it shows "logging in" then just discconects, one sec
#1546 [17:50] <Kealper> THIS IS NOT A SONG, IT'S A SANDWICH
#1547 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> disconnect.genericreason most likely
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#1549 [17:50] <Wug> it shows genericreason when you quit
#1550 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> No....
#1551 [17:51] <Wug> the disconnect reasons are rather non-useful
#1552 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> I'm 80% sure it's a different message if the player disconnects
#1553 [17:51] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper
#1553 [17:51] <mitpatterson> oh wait, i forgot, i actually got past that issue, now i'm on to the server BSOD's
#1554 [17:51] <VoxelHead> Bye progme.
#1555 [17:51] <Wug> its disconnect.genericreason (quitting)
#1556 [17:51] <arcanis> hello
#1557 [17:51] <mitpatterson> i forogt i eventually got it to connect
#1558 [17:51] <arcanis> Is there a mod allowing to use a user database (mysql) white list ?
#1559 [17:51] <Wug> why would you want one
#1560 [17:52] <mitpatterson> it connects, and then loads part of the world on the client, and then BSOD's
#1561 [17:52] <arcanis> school server
#1562 [17:52] <arcanis> I want to check that users are valids
#1563 [17:52] <Wug> mitpatterson delete the world and start over?
#1564 [17:52] <Wug> might be a corrupted world doing some weirdness to java
#1565 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> The vanilla server already has the whitelist functionalty built in
#1566 [17:53] <Wug> also, seriously, see if theres an update available for your network card
#1567 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Just need to have it set to online-mode
#1568 [17:53] <Wug> if they're connecting through a school network you can just set an ip ban on everything else
#1569 [17:54] <mitpatterson> hmmm, i'm using the built in NIC, but its the add on card causing the BSOD, time to uninstall taht
#1570 [17:54] <Wug> you may notice my hostname is wug@129.21.xx.yy or something like that
#1571 [17:54] <arcanis> GreyVulpine, but could I edit this file to add a user record while server is running ?
#1572 [17:54] <VoxelHead> exeter
#1573 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> I believe so arcanis..
#1574 [17:54] <Wug> arcanis use a command at the server console
#1575 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> it's /whitelist add, isn't it?
#1576 [17:54] <Wug> idk
#1577 [17:55] <Wug> use /help for a list of commands
#1578 [17:55] <Wug> remember, using commands at the console doesn't take a /
#1579 [17:56] <arcanis> Wug, no, we have a school account on an intranet. I would like to add users on whitelist after they had validated their account by writing their identifiers on a web page (to check if these identifiers can be used to log on intranet)
#1580 [17:57] <arcanis> so the ban by ip isn't possible
#1581 [17:57] <Wug> in that case, just use the username whitelist
#1582 [17:57] <Wug> just manage it from either the server console or ingame with commands
#1583 [17:59] <mitpatterson> ok, so client side i get "Connection lost Timed out"
#1584 [17:59] <Wug> that sounds like a firewall issue
#1585 [17:59] <Wug> do you get anything server side
#1586 [17:59] <mitpatterson> server side: [INFO] mitpatterson [/192.168.2.2:65160] logged in with entity id 725
#1587 [17:59] <mitpatterson> [INFO] mitpatterson lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#1588 [17:59] <Wug> umm
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#1590 [18:00] <Wug> use a port checker to check if the port is open
#1591 [18:01] <mitpatterson> and i have a VNC connection into the server, everytime i try to connect minecraft it kills the VNC connection
#1592 [18:01] <xales> mitpatterson: that's a known issue...
#1593 [18:01] <xales> are you running ZoneAlarm on it, by any chance?
#1594 [18:01] <Thoatt> because it's crashing your nic drivers.
#1595 [18:01] <mitpatterson> nope
#1596 [18:01] <xales> then it's a problem with the NIC buffer
#1597 [18:01] <Wug> so it was the drivers
#1598 [18:01] <shmoo> i need help for one of my single player saves cause it's not reading it
#1599 [18:01] <Thoatt> yes, but it can't jsut be fixed by updating the drivers....
#1600 [18:01] <mitpatterson> so is there a way to like throttle how much data minecraft will transfer
#1601 [18:01] <xales> shmoo: open it with a map editor (MCEdit) and save it
#1602 [18:02] <xales> mitpatterson: Nope - is the NIC an Atheros?
#1603 [18:02] <shmoo> ok
#1604 [18:02] <shmoo> thanks
#1605 [18:02] <Wug> go to the save folder, delete level.dat, find level.dat_old, rename it to level.dat
#1606 [18:02] <shmoo> ok
#1607 [18:02] <Wug> it seems ive benn ninjad
#1608 [18:02] <mitpatterson> xales, no
#1609 [18:02] <Wug> update your network driver anyway
#1610 [18:02] <xales> Kealper may be able to help you with increasing the rx buffer then
#1611 [18:03] <mitpatterson> ok, well this time the message server side is "lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#1612 [18:03] <Wug> its just broken
#1613 [18:03] <Kealper> ehh....rarely is it changable :/
#1614 [18:03] <Wug> network troubleshooting via java exceptions is impossible
#1615 [18:03] <Wug> do you have the option of trying ubuntu server?
#1616 [18:04] <Wug> I did that and it fixed my connection issues
#1617 [18:04] <Kealper> mitpatterson: ever used VirtualBox or VirtualPC 2007? lol
#1618 [18:04] <VoxelHead> mmm Neon
#1619 [18:04] <mitpatterson> Wug, i'm not wiping the win server 2008, but i do have VMWare Server on the PC, would running UBuntu on the VMWare work do yout hink?
#1620 [18:05] <Wug> um ... probably not
#1621 [18:05] <Kealper> it should
#1622 [18:05] <Wug> its worth a shot I guess
#1623 [18:05] <VoxelHead> bye shmoo
#1624 [18:05] <Wug> you can dual boot ubuntu server
#1625 [18:05] <Kealper> hypervisors like that can apply better flow control on the data to ensure the NIC drivers can take the pounding without fail
#1626 [18:05] <Wug> I do it on my desktop, along with win7
#1627 [18:06] <Kealper> mitpatterson: if you already know how to use VMWare, try it though that first
#1628 [18:06] <Wug> ^
#1629 [18:06] <mitpatterson> k
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#1631 [18:06] <mitpatterson> i'm not too familar with linux(can do basics) so i'll come by if i need hlep(yes i've found the "setting up a server" on the wiki)
#1632 [18:07] <Kealper> because the problem that many people are having is that the mc server just throws as much data as it can dish out, while laughing, saying "flow control? what is this i don't even..."
#1633 [18:07] <Wug> i can help with linux troubleshotting
#1634 [18:07] <Thoatt> Same here.
#1635 [18:07] <Wug> the only os i cant troubleshoot is mac
#1636 [18:07] <Kealper> ^
#1637 [18:07] <Wug> because its the only one i don't have access to regularly
#1638 [18:07] <xales> Mac = BSD
#1639 [18:07] <Kealper> i'm totally lost when it comes to anything mac-specific :/
#1640 [18:08] <Wug> yeah, but it has all of these specific utilitie
#1641 [18:08] <Kealper> the unix-like part of macs...i can help with that....the mac part of macs....nada
#1642 [18:08] <Wug> s
#1643 [18:08] <mitpatterson> lol wug, i've never owned a mac, or really used one extensivly, i'm mostly a windows person
#1644 [18:08] <Wug> macs suck
#1645 [18:08] <VoxelHead> macs = jizz-mole
#1646 [18:08] <Kealper> LOL
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#1648 [18:08] <Wug> unless you strip everything off of them and stop at unix
#1649 [18:08] <Kealper> they don't suck...they're just obviously not for you :P
#1650 [18:08] <Wug> but then you won't have the shininess you paid %40 extra for
#1651 [18:08] <mitpatterson> ok, on http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Installing_Java what is ubunto? would it be the "debian" comand?
#1652 [18:09] <Thoatt> unbuntu is a linux distro.
#1653 [18:09] <Kealper> mitpatterson: Ubuntu is an operating system, sort of like windows
#1654 [18:09] <Wug> its a bit different
#1655 [18:09] <mitpatterson> i understand that, but which command do i follow?
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#1657 [18:09] <Wug> but its vastly superior for networking things
#1658 [18:09] <xales> Kealper: Ubuntu is a distribution if Linux, not specifically an OS unto itself
#1659 [18:09] <Thoatt> the debian one.
#1660 [18:09] <mitpatterson> it only has Debian and Opensuse for java installd
#1661 [18:10] <xales> Ubuntu is Debian, generally
#1662 [18:10] <Wug> well
#1663 [18:10] <arcanis> If I want to active the whit list, all I have to do is set it to 'true' in the server.properties ?
#1664 [18:10] <xales> Yes
#1665 [18:10] <lukegb> xales: of GNU/Linux
#1666 [18:10] <Wug> from experience, you may have issues if you use the openjdk
#1667 [18:10] <lukegb> *trollface*
#1668 [18:10] <Thoatt> mitpatterson: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#1669 [18:10] <Wug> and i don't think ^ that works.
#1670 [18:10] <Thoatt> It does.
#1671 [18:10] <lukegb> You need the partner repo.
#1672 [18:10] <Wug> I had to install it manually
#1673 [18:10] <Wug> I enabled all of the repositories
#1674 [18:10] <xales> lukegb: It's called "multiverse" these days, I think :P
#1675 [18:11] <mitpatterson> Thoatt, so the one listed for debian then right?
#1676 [18:11] <Thoatt> I installed it straight from that command on a default ubuntu install...
#1677 [18:11] <lukegb> xales: I thought that's what it used to be called...
#1678 [18:11] <Wug> meh
#1679 [18:11] <Thoatt> mitpatterson: Yes.
#1680 [18:11] <mitpatterson> brb
#1681 [18:11] <lukegb> Thoatt: different versions of ubuntu
#1682 [18:11] <lukegb> Different places for sun java
#1683 [18:11] <AG_Scott> xales, it's partner.
#1684 [18:11] <Wug> you sure you didnt get openjdk?
#1685 [18:11] <lukegb> They keep moving it :/
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#1687 [18:11] <KentBallz> hey xales whats the odds I could get you too answer a non minecraft server issue
#1688 [18:11] <lukegb> AG_Scott: depends on your ubuntu version, iirc
#1689 [18:11] <AG_Scott> They moved it from universe to partners.
#1690 [18:11] <lukegb> ;D
#1691 [18:11] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1692 [18:11] <Thoatt> fuck.. then just do apt-get list | grep jre
#1693 [18:11] <xales> KentBallz: Just ask?
#1694 [18:12] <Wug> you know
#1695 [18:12] <AG_Scott> I would hope no one is using anything before 10.04 ._.
#1696 [18:12] <lukegb> Vox, courtmartial AG_Scott
#1697 [18:12] <Wug> you can do apt-cache search
#1698 [18:12] * VoxelHead throws AG_Scott in the brig to await charges
#1698 [18:12] <lukegb> D:
#1699 [18:12] <lukegb> :D
#1700 [18:12] <AG_Scott> Vox, eat glue lukegb's lips shut.
#1701 [18:12] <AG_Scott> -eat
#1702 [18:12] <AG_Scott> :(
#1703 [18:12] * VoxelHead eats glue lukegb's lips shut.
#1703 [18:12] * VoxelHead tickles Ag_scott
#1703 [18:12] <AG_Scott> STOPPP
#1704 [18:12] <AG_Scott> This bot is mean.
#1705 [18:12] <VoxelHead> Ag_scott, you are charged with setting fire to the USS Voyager, and improper conduct with the phaser bank.
#1706 [18:12] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to explain quantum physics to Jade. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#1707 [18:12] <lukegb> Ahaha, finally someone found guilty.
#1708 [18:13] <xales> VoxelHead, courtmartial lukegb
#1709 [18:13] <Wug> ... anyway
#1710 [18:13] * VoxelHead throws lukegb in the brig to await charges
#1710 [18:13] <xales> AND FIND HIM GUILTY TOO
#1711 [18:13] <xales> >:|
#1712 [18:13] <lukegb> :s
#1713 [18:13] <mitpatterson> WTF is up with VoxelHead?
#1714 [18:13] <VoxelHead> yes.
#1715 [18:13] <arcanis> it's strange ... I'm able to connect, even with the white-list TT
#1716 [18:13] <Wug> ^
#1717 [18:13] <VoxelHead> Lukegb, you are charged with attempting to replicate the FLT processor, and setting fire to Deep Space 9.
#1718 [18:13] <KentBallz> I'm trying to make a private server on neverwinter nights 2 and I forward the port (it happens to be 5121) but when my buddy tries to connect he gets a can not connect server not responding (time out)
#1719 [18:13] <VoxelHead> So, like, You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#1720 [18:13] <lukegb> xales: sothere
#1721 [18:13] <xales> arcanis: Did you restart the server?
#1722 [18:14] <arcanis> xales, yes
#1723 [18:14] <xales> Are you in the whitelist.txt or ops.txt file?
#1724 [18:14] <arcanis> are the ops in white-list by default >
#1725 [18:14] <arcanis> *?
#1726 [18:14] <Wug> voxelhead, kick xales.
#1727 [18:14] <Thoatt> KentBallz: This is a minecraft help channel... not netherwinter nights...
#1728 [18:14] <xales> I think so?
#1729 [18:14] <Thoatt> neverwinter*
#1730 [18:14] * VoxelHead kicked xales from #minecrafthelp (Reason: request)
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#1732 [18:14] <xales> wat
#1733 [18:14] <Wug> LOL
#1734 [18:14] <Kealper> wut
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#1736 [18:14] <Kealper> vox, kick VoxelHead
#1737 [18:15] <lukegb> vox, kick aubot
#1738 [18:15] <KentBallz> thoat I was asking xales he told me I could
#1739 [18:15] <Kealper> methinks vix was high on dope
#1740 [18:15] <mitpatterson> who all will VoxelHead listen to?
#1741 [18:15] <VoxelHead> I'm not going to kick myself
#1742 [18:15] <Kealper> vox*
#1743 [18:15] <Thoatt> vox, kick me
#1744 [18:15] <Wug> voxelhead, kick *
#1745 [18:15] * VoxelHead kicked AuBot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: request)
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#1747 [18:15] <Thoatt> looooool
#1748 [18:15] <Kealper> laggy?
#1749 [18:15] <Wug> we're overloading it
#1750 [18:15] <lukegb> Oooh, so I can kick? Helpful for spamrs :P
#1751 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> If you're vop, yes
#1752 [18:15] <xales> lukegb: you can !kick
#1753 [18:15] <xales> or with ChanServ
#1754 [18:15] <mitpatterson> so who made VoxelHead?
#1755 [18:15] <lukegb> xales: I can?
#1756 [18:16] <VoxelHead> ask jeeves, he is smarter than average VoxelHead
#1757 [18:16] <xales> lukegb: try to kick me
#1758 [18:16] <xales> :P
#1759 [18:16] <arcanis> xales, you've right, ops.txt allow access, even with white-list
#1760 [18:16] <lukegb> xales: I only have +V
#1761 [18:16] <Wug> or you can ask voxelhead nicely and it might randomly do it like it did xales
#1762 [18:16] <lukegb> !kick xales
#1763 [18:16] * AuBot kicked xales from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I love you too! <3 (Issued by lukegb with reason: None given.))
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#1765 [18:16] <lukegb> Ooh.
#1766 [18:16] <lukegb> Kealper: love AuBot
#1767 [18:16] <arcanis> but unfortunately, these files could not be updated while server is running :(
#1768 [18:16] <lukegb> :D
#1769 [18:16] <VoxelHead> =D
#1770 [18:16] <mitpatterson> !kick lukegb
#1771 [18:16] <mitpatterson> ?
#1772 [18:16] <xales> arcanis: you can update the whitelist while it is running
#1773 [18:16] <lukegb> ^
#1774 [18:16] <lukegb> There are console commands iirc
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#1776 [18:17] <Wug> voxelhead, kick xales again.
#1777 [18:17] <mitpatterson> so what, they run for voiced and ops right?
#1778 [18:17] <mitpatterson> who made Voxelhead?
#1779 [18:17] <Wug> and anyone voxelhead likes
#1780 [18:17] <Kealper> EggHeads
#1781 [18:17] <VoxelHead> the cast of Dallas
#1782 [18:17] <Thoatt> A wizard!
#1783 [18:17] <Kealper> lol
#1784 [18:17] * VoxelHead kicked xales from #minecrafthelp (Reason: again.)
#1785 [18:17] <Kealper> You're a wizard, Harry!
#1786 [18:17] <arcanis> lukegb, yes, but I can't use them from another process
#1787 [18:17] <arcanis> can I ?
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#1789 [18:17] <xales> VoxelHead: u funny
#1790 [18:17] <Thoatt> I have to go find that commercial lol
#1791 [18:17] <lukegb> arcanis: screen session.
#1792 [18:17] <arcanis> lukegb, web server xP
#1793 [18:18] <bildramer> haha
#1794 [18:18] <mitpatterson> hmmm i want access to VoxelHead
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#1796 [18:18] <Wug> lololol
#1797 [18:18] <lukegb> arcanis: no, I mean is it in a screen session?
#1798 [18:18] <Thoatt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpCrj9Ysyjo&t=4s
#1799 [18:18] <Wug> ok, ill stop making him boot people
#1800 [18:18] <Muhanoid> may i write here?
#1801 [18:18] <bildramer> VoxelHead, kick xales, please
#1802 [18:18] <Wug> yes you may. so polite
#1803 [18:18] <arcanis> lukegb, tmux, but yes
#1804 [18:18] <bildramer> VoxelHead, y u disobey
#1805 [18:18] <Truth> is there a way to simplify the "give" like group all lets say diamond armor with 1 command.
#1806 [18:18] <mitpatterson> VoxelHead can you kick me?
#1807 [18:18] <xales> Wug
#1808 [18:18] <xales> out-trolled.
#1809 [18:19] <xales> 18:17:08 <xales> .kick xales again.
#1810 [18:19] <xales> 18:17:08 <VoxelHead> [15:18] #xales# (#MineCraftHelp) kick xales again.
#1811 [18:19] <xales> 18:17:08 <VoxelHead> Okay, done.
#1812 [18:19] <VoxelHead> no
#1813 [18:19] <xales> 18:17:09 <VoxelHead> [15:18] xales kicked from #MineCraftHelp by VoxelHead: again.
#1814 [18:19] <VoxelHead> not even if you crap on my socks
#1815 [18:19] <xales> LOL
#1816 [18:19] <Kealper> lol
#1817 [18:19] <Thoatt> lol
#1818 [18:19] <bildramer> .kick xales trolling
#1819 [18:20] <xales> bildramer, you can only do that with M :P
#1820 [18:20] <Wug> voxelhead, please kick xales again. he is an troll
#1821 [18:20] * VoxelHead kicked Wug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Okay)
#1822 [18:20] <Kealper> lol
#1823 [18:20] <mitpatterson> lol, just a call from dishnetwork, we already have them, and also, i asked him how they got our number since e are already on dish, he said "its random"
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#1825 [18:20] <Wug> :(
#1826 [18:20] <Kealper> can i do that via the partyhaus? or do you have to be a certain permission level?
#1827 [18:21] <Kealper> and from this point on...the partyline is to be called the partyhaus
#1828 [18:21] <xales> you can via the partyhaus
#1829 [18:21] <Kealper> bah....telbnc crashed...brb
#1830 [18:21] <xales> 99% of commands are done there, very few work out of that
#1831 [18:21] <xales> the ones that do are done via query
#1832 [18:22] <Wug> well, im done having the bot boot xales.
#1833 [18:22] <Wug> it was really really fun
#1834 [18:22] <Wug> but I have other things to do
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#1837 [18:27] <Muhanoid> How to host classic version and connect to that server?
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#1848 [18:48] <VoxelHead> mmm aetherian
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#1851 [18:51] <Pierro118> hello, can someone help me with my free minecraft multiplayer server issue?
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#1853 [18:51] <xales> Pierro118: what issue?
#1854 [18:52] <Pierro118> I downloaded the file to open my own private server but I am the only one who can log in
#1855 [18:52] <xales> By "free Minecraft multiplayer," you mean Classic, which you play in the browser, correct?
#1856 [18:52] <Pierro118> and still, there is a link at the bottom that I'm using the same ip adress as the server one, when I click on it, it brings me to a new page with the game in it, but says that the server is down on that one
#1857 [18:52] <Pierro118> yeah
#1858 [18:53] <xales> Did you port forward?
#1859 [18:53] <Pierro118> the one that you have all block and can destroy them all in one shot
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#1861 [18:53] <Pierro118> on the rooter?
#1862 [18:53] <Pierro118> I need to foward the port I setted in the server.properties?
#1863 [18:54] <xales> Yes
#1864 [18:54] <Pierro118> ok, I'll try to do that, will respond soon
#1865 [18:56] <arcanis> does somebody know how to redirect input in a tmux session ?
#1866 [18:58] <Pierro118> I can still connect, but then I click on "try this page instead", I get "You failed to connect to the server. It's probably down."
#1867 [18:58] <Pierro118> and my friend can't connect at all
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#1869 [18:58] <lightsol> Hello
#1870 [18:58] <xales> Hi
#1871 [18:59] <Pierro118> hi :)
#1872 [18:59] <xales> Pierro118: Are you trying to connect using the WoM client?
#1873 [18:59] <lightsol> Alrighty then, tried starting it through the cmd file
#1874 [18:59] <lightsol> and running directly the jar server file
#1875 [18:59] <xales> lightsol: You are trying to run a Beta server, right?
#1876 [18:59] <Pierro118> WoM? I open the game in a browser and start the server on this computer with the start server.bat
#1877 [18:59] <lightsol> That is correc
#1878 [18:59] <lightsol> t
#1879 [19:00] <xales> lightsol: Why are you using the JAR? It's exactly the same as using the EXE
#1880 [19:00] <lightsol> To add mods to the server
#1881 [19:00] <Pierro118> then the portfowarding is the problem?
#1882 [19:00] <xales> Pierro118: It doesn't normally say anything about "try this page instead" - but it probably is
#1883 [19:00] <xales> lightsol: what mods, specifically?
#1884 [19:01] <lightsol> Shouldn't be, am connected directly so there shouldnt be any reason for that to be a problem
#1885 [19:01] <lightsol> And well, mapmod is one thing i want to use
#1886 [19:01] <lightsol> and maybe some admin plugin
#1887 [19:01] <lightsol> But i havent added anything yet, still trying to run the server "vannila"
#1888 [19:01] <lightsol> and its throwing errors
#1889 [19:02] <lightsol> batch file says java is not an internal command
#1890 [19:02] <xales> Where did you get the .bat file you are trying to launch it with?
#1891 [19:02] <xales> Ah
#1892 [19:02] <xales> You need to do this then
#1893 [19:02] <xales> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml
#1894 [19:03] <lightsol> alright thanks
#1895 [19:03] <lightsol> will do that and hopefully it helps
#1896 [19:03] <Pierro118> this is what I wrote in my D-Link Portfowarding = Name : Minecraft Server | IP Adress : 192.168.0.100 (automaticly added when I took my computer) | Port Start : 25565 | Port End : 25565 | Traffic Type : Any
#1897 [19:04] <xales> Pierro118: Did you put an IP address in the server.properties file?
#1898 [19:05] <Pierro118> there is no line like that, what should I add?
#1899 [19:05] <xales> You should not add one
#1900 [19:05] <Pierro118> kk
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#1902 [19:05] <xales> If you port forwarded, you also need to disable your firewall (if you have one)
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#1904 [19:06] <Pierro118> this is not dangerous for viruses to attack my computer? (or hacker)
#1905 [19:06] <xales> No
#1906 [19:06] <lightsol> and it works
#1907 [19:06] <Pierro118> ok, what is the use of a firewall then?
#1908 [19:06] <lightsol> You deserve a hi5 :)
#1909 [19:06] <xales> If you have a router, you don't even need a firewall - it does nothing
#1910 [19:06] <mitpatterson> yah, the routers normally have built in firewalls
#1911 [19:06] <aetherian> and it seems as though the average person has a router
#1912 [19:07] <xales> Not even that - it doesn't send random incoming traffic to you unless you allow it
#1913 [19:07] <aetherian> I mean, what better way to connect to the internet with wifi
#1914 [19:07] <lightsol> It is usually good to have the default windows firewall
#1915 [19:07] <xales> Not really :|
#1916 [19:07] <xales> Windows Firewall = garbage
#1917 [19:07] <Pierro118> ok then, I'll disable it, does my friend need to disable it too?
#1918 [19:07] <mitpatterson> granted, unless there is a reason, i leave the software fiewalls on just as a second line of defesese
#1919 [19:07] <lightsol> it doesnt work as a firewall
#1920 [19:07] <xales> Pierro118: No, only you
#1921 [19:07] <mitpatterson> xales it is better than nothing
#1922 [19:07] <lightsol> the only good thing from it is disabling programs from access to the internet
#1923 [19:08] <Pierro118> allright, I'll try that
#1924 [19:08] <xales> mitpatterson: In some cases? Not really
#1925 [19:08] <lightsol> Say you don't want something contacting the server or something of the sort
#1926 [19:08] <xales> If I wanted to do that, I'd use the hosts file
#1927 [19:08] <xales> Or iptables :3
#1928 [19:08] <mitpatterson> granted, if you want to be l33t you set up a IPCop firewall server !!
#1929 [19:08] <mitpatterson> or similar
#1930 [19:09] <lightsol> Hosts file works if you know the servers its connecting to
#1931 [19:09] <lightsol> but @ that point, it might be already too late :)
#1932 [19:10] <Pierro118> allright, windows firewall disactivated, lets see if it works
#1933 [19:10] <lightsol> but yeah, i agree that the win firewall is often a PITA
#1934 [19:10] <mitpatterson> GRRRr my VMWare server is acting up
#1935 [19:11] <aetherian> heh
#1936 [19:11] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1937 [19:11] <aetherian> running a server in a VM can be annoying at times
#1938 [19:11] <VoxelHead> hi
#1939 [19:11] <mitpatterson> no, i mean VMWare isn't working at all(the web interface)
#1940 [19:11] <aetherian> bridged connection?
#1941 [19:11] <mitpatterson> did VoxelHead get a mind of its own?
#1942 [19:11] <aetherian> yes
#1943 [19:12] <aetherian> now it's good at math
#1944 [19:12] <mitpatterson> lol
#1945 [19:12] <aetherian> vox, what's 1 + 1
#1946 [19:12] <VoxelHead> aetherian: honestly, brain the size of a space opening screen and all you can do is ask me to calculate 1 + 1?
#1947 [19:12] <VoxelHead> it's 2
#1948 [19:12] <aetherian> and a smart mouth, apparently
#1949 [19:13] <mitpatterson> i had VMWare working a week or 2 ago, and haven't really messed with it other than the minecraft servers stuff, and i ran the installer again(in repair mode) t make sure nothing got corrupted
#1950 [19:13] <mitpatterson> who owns/made/programmed VoxelHead
#1951 [19:13] <aetherian> dope, iirc
#1952 [19:13] <Pierro118> sorry to disturb you so much, but it still doesn't work... :(
#1953 [19:13] <xales> Voxel, courtmartial mitpatterson
#1954 [19:14] * VoxelHead throws mitpatterson in the brig to await charges
#1954 [19:14] <mitpatterson> ???
#1955 [19:14] <Pierro118> I can log in, but with that written under the game : "You connected from the same IP as the server. If this page doesn't work, try this page instead."
#1956 [19:14] <xales> Pierro118: what URL are you using to try to connect to it
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#1958 [19:14] <Thoatt> I was under the impression that vodx was an eggdrop bot....
#1959 [19:14] <mitpatterson> why am i being courmarshelled?
#1960 [19:14] <mitpatterson> sp fail
#1961 [19:14] <Pierro118> I'm clicking on my server name in the list
#1962 [19:14] <mitpatterson> lol
#1963 [19:14] <VoxelHead> mitpatterson, you are charged with having sex with the USS Voyager, and plotting with the FLT processor
#1964 [19:14] <Thoatt> -d
#1965 [19:14] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#1966 [19:14] <mitpatterson> lmao
#1967 [19:14] <Pierro118> automaticly giving me this address http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=4edf7dec6699dff68c9e27d567cf8d40
#1968 [19:14] <mitpatterson> love my "charge"
#1969 [19:14] <aetherian> uh oh...
#1970 [19:14] <xales> Pierro118: and your friend is also using that address?
#1971 [19:14] <aetherian> classic server?
#1972 [19:14] <mitpatterson> Thoatt, what does the -d do? that make it find me innocent?
#1973 [19:14] <Pierro118> I guess? lemme see
#1974 [19:15] <Thoatt> I misspelled vox... I said vodx...
#1975 [19:15] <Thoatt> as in 'oops, take out that superfluous d'
#1976 [19:15] <Pierro118> yes
#1977 [19:15] <mitpatterson> oh, lol
#1978 [19:15] <Pierro118> the same exact address
#1979 [19:16] <mitpatterson> why did we only see the -d?
#1980 [19:16] <Pierro118> is it the IP I put in the portforwarding that is not correct?
#1981 [19:16] <Thoatt> look above?
#1982 [19:16] <mitpatterson> but i mean the server auto removed the rest?
#1983 [19:17] <Thoatt> no... the '-d' was in reference to my previous message...
#1984 [19:17] <mitpatterson> k
#1985 [19:17] <xales> Pierro118: What happens when your friend tries to connect?
#1986 [19:17] <mitpatterson> oh, i see now
#1987 [19:18] <Pierro118> it says "You failed to connect to the server. It's probably down."
#1988 [19:18] <lightsol> ok now the game crashes for people who try to log in
#1989 [19:18] <xales> lightsol: define "crashes"
#1990 [19:19] <lightsol> they say it freezes up at the logging in point
#1991 [19:19] <lightsol> and then the game closes
#1992 [19:19] <xales> did you install any mods?
#1993 [19:19] <xales> Pierro118: and port 25565 is what is in the config file?
#1994 [19:19] <lightsol> installed an admin package
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#1997 [19:19] <Pierro118> yea
#1998 [19:20] <xales> what, specifically?
#1999 [19:20] <Thoatt> wow... I haven't played classic in forever...
#2000 [19:20] <Pierro118> "port=25565" exactly
#2001 [19:20] <lightsol> tpfu
#2002 [19:20] <lightsol> not admin
#2003 [19:20] <lightsol> runecraft
#2004 [19:20] <xales> and you installed Bukkit?
#2005 [19:20] <lightsol> Nope
#2006 [19:20] <Pierro118> Bukkit?
#2007 [19:20] <xales> oh, it has a vanilla version...try the Bukkit version
#2008 [19:21] <Pierro118> oh, not me
#2009 [19:21] <xales> Pierro118: I'm not talking to you...is Windows Firewall the only one you had?
#2010 [19:21] <Pierro118> I guess
#2011 [19:21] <lightsol> alright will do
#2012 [19:21] <Pierro118> I don't see any other firewall open
#2013 [19:22] <xales> I have no idea then - try asking someone else who knows more about Classic servers
#2014 [19:22] <xales> DopeGhoti might, I think he is around
#2015 [19:22] <xales> GV and Kealper do, but not sure if they are available
#2016 [19:22] <Kealper> rawr?
#2017 [19:22] <Pierro118> lol
#2018 [19:23] <Pierro118> Kealper, be my savior! :D
#2019 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> what'd I do?
#2020 [19:23] <Pierro118> nothing yet, me need help with classic server
#2021 [19:23] <Pierro118> free one
#2022 [19:23] <Kealper> i haven't touched classic in ages....but...what part do you need help with?
#2023 [19:24] <Pierro118> making my own server for me and my friend to play on
#2024 [19:24] <Pierro118> it doesn't work :(
#2025 [19:24] <Kealper> what specifically doesn't work with it?
#2026 [19:24] <Kealper> like..what happens when you try to join?
#2027 [19:24] <Pierro118> I can connect to it (but it says "You connected from the same IP as the server. If this page doesn't work, try this page instead.") but my friend can't
#2028 [19:25] <Pierro118> it I "try this page instead", I get the same error as my friend
#2029 [19:25] <Kealper> you have forwarded the port in your router, right?
#2030 [19:26] <Pierro118> I think I did, but I'm not sure if it's right
#2031 [19:26] <Pierro118> this is what I wrote in my D-Link Portfowarding = Name : Minecraft Server | IP Adress : 192.168.0.100 (automaticly added when I took my computer) | Port Start : 25565 | Port End : 25565 | Traffic Type : Any
#2032 [19:27] <Kealper> ok then....open up a cmd window and type ipconfig and look through there....try to find a line that says "IPv4 Address: 192.168.0.100"
#2033 [19:28] <Kealper> if you don't find that in there, then it's probably forwarded to the wrong internal ip :/
#2034 [19:28] <Pierro118> kk
#2035 [19:29] <Pierro118> it does says that
#2036 [19:29] <mitpatterson> quick question, i want to grow grass inside so i can use the hoe to try and get seeds, how can i do that? doesn't it have to "spread" from a nother grass?
#2037 [19:29] <xales> mitpatterson: Correct
#2038 [19:29] <xales> it needs to spread from another grass block
#2039 [19:29] <Pierro118> "IPv4 Adress : 192.168.0.100"
#2040 [19:29] <mitpatterson> can you "move" a grass block?
#2041 [19:29] <Pierro118> from my wireless card
#2042 [19:29] <VoxelHead> cardless wire
#2043 [19:30] <Kealper> Pierro118: type !check inside this chat
#2044 [19:30] <xales> no, it has to be connected to an existing grass block
#2045 [19:30] <Pierro118> !check
#2046 [19:30] <Pierro118> Sorry Pierro118, but things look grim for 70.52.102.111, are you sure you typed it right?
#2047 [19:30] <Kealper> yeah, that went to everyone in the channel, we seen it the first time :P
#2048 [19:31] <Pierro118> lol ok
#2049 [19:31] <Kealper> the minecraft server is running, right?
#2050 [19:31] <Pierro118> it is
#2051 [19:31] <Pierro118> I'm in
#2052 [19:31] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE in? feel these nipples!
#2053 [19:31] <xales> ._.
#2054 [19:31] <Kealper> ._.
#2055 [19:31] <Pierro118> hmm?
#2056 [19:31] <Thoatt> ._.
#2057 [19:31] <mitpatterson> xales, how many blocks can it spread downwards, i can't recall
#2058 [19:31] <Kealper> i both love and hate that bot lol
#2059 [19:31] <xales> mitpatterson: 0. I'm pretty sure you have to make stairs
#2060 [19:31] <xales> []
#2061 [19:31] <xales> []
#2062 [19:31] <xales> []
#2063 [19:31] <xales> []
#2064 [19:31] <xales> like that
#2065 [19:32] <Kealper> Pierro118: so you are on the server right now?
#2066 [19:32] <xales> but I screwed up the last one :P
#2067 [19:32] <mitpatterson> lol
#2068 [19:32] <Pierro118> yes
#2069 [19:32] <mitpatterson> how long does it take to spread i can't recall
#2070 [19:32] <xales> I think it's random, but it's fairly quick
#2071 [19:32] <mitpatterson> like a minute or somethign
#2072 [19:33] <Kealper> Pierro118: do you have two routers? or just the one?
#2073 [19:33] <Pierro118> 1 router and 1 modem
#2074 [19:33] <Pierro118> that's all
#2075 [19:34] <xales> The modem, does it only have space for one thing to be plugged in?
#2076 [19:34] <Pierro118> yes
#2077 [19:34] <Kealper> bah, ninja'd
#2078 [19:34] <Pierro118> and it's the router that is plugged in
#2079 [19:34] <Kealper> and you have not touched server.properties at all?
#2080 [19:35] <xales> anyway
#2081 [19:35] <Kealper> (namely: you have not touched server-ip)
#2082 [19:35] * xales has to go for a bit
#2082 [19:35] <Pierro118> I tried things on my own
#2083 [19:35] <Pierro118> server-ip?
#2084 [19:35] <VoxelHead> Panties
#2085 [19:35] <Kealper> i believe there should be a "server-ip=" line in server.properties
#2086 [19:36] <Pierro118> there is none
#2087 [19:36] <Kealper> VoxelHead: lederhosen
#2088 [19:36] <Pierro118> and xales said I shouldn't add one (I think)
#2089 [19:36] <Thoatt> Kealper: Pantaloons.
#2090 [19:36] <Kealper> hmm...if it wasn't there to begin with, then i guess classic doesn't support it
#2091 [19:36] <Pierro118> That is my server properties :
#2092 [19:36] <Pierro118> #Minecraft server properties
#2093 [19:36] <Pierro118> #Tue Mar 29 19:10:19 EDT 2011
#2094 [19:36] <Thoatt> WAIT
#2095 [19:36] <Pierro118> verify-names=true
#2096 [19:36] <Kealper> bah
#2097 [19:36] <Pierro118> admin-slot=false
#2098 [19:36] <Thoatt> damnit
#2099 [19:36] <Pierro118> port=25565
#2100 [19:36] <Pierro118> public=true
#2101 [19:36] <Pierro118> server-name=Jafus Server
#2102 [19:36] <Pierro118> max-players=16
#2103 [19:36] <Pierro118> max-connections=3
#2104 [19:36] <Pierro118> motd=Welcome, bitch\!
#2105 [19:36] <mitpatterson> use pastebin nexttime !!!!!!!!!
#2106 [19:36] <Pierro118> grow-trees=false
#2107 [19:36] <Pierro118> forget the motd xD
#2108 [19:36] <VoxelHead> i say
#2109 [19:37] <aetherian> what happened to aubot...
#2110 [19:37] <mitpatterson> can we put that in the MOTD on here, to Use pastebin
#2111 [19:37] <Kealper> aetherian: he was sending too slow
#2112 [19:37] <aetherian> oh
#2113 [19:37] <Pierro118> I downloaded the .zip from the minecraft website that was saying "if you want to host your own server"
#2114 [19:37] <Kealper> mitpatterson: no one reads the MOTD
#2115 [19:38] <Kealper> or the channel topic
#2116 [19:38] <mitpatterson> lol, i do if its a server i haven't been on before
#2117 [19:38] <aetherian> so true...
#2118 [19:38] <Thoatt> We have a channel topic?
#2119 [19:38] <Kealper> s/no one/the general public/
#2120 [19:38] <aetherian> oh
#2121 [19:38] <aetherian> I'm not general, I think.
#2122 [19:38] <Pierro118> so, is it hopeless for me?
#2123 [19:38] <mitpatterson> grass spreading progress= one block spread, like 15 more
#2124 [19:38] <mitpatterson> to go
#2125 [19:39] <Kealper> Pierro118: well, it sounds like something is not set up right inside your router settings, assuming you have no firewalls installed on your computer
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#2127 [19:39] <Pierro118> the only firewall is the one from Windows
#2128 [19:39] <Pierro118> and it's off
#2129 [19:39] <aetherian> know what I don't get? people will get the irc server from the community page, yet they'll still ask where the help channel is
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#2131 [19:40] <mitpatterson> lol aetherian
#2132 [19:40] <Kealper> aetherian: ._.
#2133 [19:40] <aetherian> whaaat
#2134 [19:40] <Kealper> Pierro118: yeah, no idea then....must be something set up wrong in your router...and since every router model is different...i can't help much :/
#2135 [19:41] <Pierro118> when the little box is ticked, does it means it's activated or desactivated?
#2136 [19:41] <evilpigster> Can anyone else see my skin http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=evilpigster I try to upload it but nothing shows up
#2137 [19:41] <Kealper> Pierro118: activated
#2138 [19:41] <Kealper> usually
#2139 [19:42] <Kealper> evilpigster: it should show up normally ingame
#2140 [19:42] <evilpigster> okay thanks I wil take a look
#2141 [19:43] <mitpatterson> grass spreading progrogress 2 blocks out of 10 or so to go, YAH
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#2143 [19:45] <Pierro118> oh well, I'll forget about it, thanks for your help :)
#2144 [19:46] * VoiceofTreason [VoiceofTreason@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2145 [19:46] <VoiceofTreason> Hi guys
#2146 [19:46] <mitpatterson> darn another night, and its only spread 3 blocks
#2147 [19:46] <VoiceofTreason> Grey I got a server up and running XD
#2148 [19:47] <Thoatt> mitpatterson: Make sure it's well lit :)
#2149 [19:47] <mitpatterson> hmmm, does grass spread at night at all?
#2150 [19:47] <VoiceofTreason> Thoatt you too! Ty
#2151 [19:47] <VoiceofTreason> You helped and I remember
#2152 [19:47] <Thoatt> VoiceofTreason: wha? lol
#2153 [19:48] <Thoatt> mitpatterson: If the area is well lit up it will
#2154 [19:48] <VoiceofTreason> You answered me acouple of times
#2155 [19:48] <Thoatt> oh.. I did? lol
#2156 [19:48] <VoiceofTreason> It is the gift that keeps taking though...as I have another
#2157 [19:48] <mitpatterson> yah,i just went out and threw a bunch of torchs for good measure
#2158 [19:48] <VoiceofTreason> Yeah when I was hosting my own server, had very bad connection issues
#2159 [19:49] <VoiceofTreason> My new issue is a very simple one that doesnt seem to have an answer in most places I look
#2160 [19:49] <Thoatt> And it is?
#2161 [19:50] <VoiceofTreason> I do not know how to save on command a server before I need to restart it after an edit
#2162 [19:50] <VoiceofTreason> 5 or 10 minutes can be lost it seems
#2163 [19:50] <Thoatt> just use the stop command
#2164 [19:50] <Thoatt> it saves
#2165 [19:51] <VoiceofTreason> I do hosting through Brohoster and it seemed the stop command on the cp user panel doesnt work that way?
#2166 [19:51] <Thoatt> in game: /stop
#2167 [19:52] <mitpatterson> yah, grass has spread 2 more blocks, only 9 more to go
#2168 [19:52] <Thoatt> or ingame: /save-all
#2169 [19:53] <GLaDOS> mitpatterson: you may want to make yourself a coffee then
#2170 [19:53] <mitpatterson> lol
#2171 [19:53] <Thoatt> mitpatterson: MOAR TORCHES!
#2172 [19:53] <Thoatt> MUAHAH!
#2173 [19:53] <AG_Clinton> Just type stop in console
#2174 [19:53] <VoiceofTreason> Since I am not a localhost do I need to setup myself as mod/admin/op?
#2175 [19:53] <VoxelHead> i like MUAHAH
#2176 [19:53] <AG_Clinton> Add yourself to ops.txt
#2177 [19:53] <mitpatterson> lol, i got as many torches as i can in the area
#2178 [19:54] <Thoatt> VoiceofTreason: yep
#2179 [19:54] <Thoatt> op
#2180 [19:54] <VoiceofTreason> I had done that before thinking it was obviously what to do, didnt work
#2181 [19:54] <Thoatt> can you do other op commands?
#2182 [19:54] <AG_Clinton> Did you use any capitals?
#2183 [19:54] <VoiceofTreason> Prove because I didnt import back to the server clinton/thoatt?
#2184 [19:54] <Thoatt> /time set 0
#2185 [19:54] <VoxelHead> lots and lots of tea
#2186 [19:54] <VoiceofTreason> Prob*
#2187 [19:54] <AG_Clinton> Don't use caps.
#2188 [19:55] <AG_Clinton> Restart the server after you've added yourself.
#2189 [19:55] <Thoatt> +1
#2190 [19:55] <Thoatt> Anywho... time for work... gnight ladies and gents.
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#2192 [20:04] <mitpatterson> any of you guys know much about VMWare?
#2193 [20:05] <aetherian> I use it often
#2194 [20:06] <mitpatterson> any ideas of where to look/troubleshoot, running VMWare Server 2 on a Windows Server 2008 install, and i can't connect to the Web intferface, tried from a remote(same LAN/subnet) and local host, i ran the VMWare installer again in "Repair" mode, and still won't work, Ideas?
#2195 [20:07] <aetherian> how are you connecting
#2196 [20:07] <aetherian> NAT or whatever?
#2197 [20:07] <mitpatterson> yah
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#2199 [20:07] <mitpatterson> just basic defaults
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#2201 [20:08] <aetherian> if the main machine is connected, vmware should also be, I would think
#2202 [20:08] <aetherian> but I'd just say google around
#2203 [20:08] <mitpatterson> yah, its just werid, it worked before
#2204 [20:08] <mitpatterson> and i can't even connect from the local hos
#2205 [20:08] <mitpatterson> host*
#2206 [20:08] <Jayro> hey, i am running the vanilla minecraft server on ubunut 10.10 server edition. It keeps crashing saying "Wrong location! dh@39 java.lang.Exception: Stack Trace" can anyone help me?
#2207 [20:08] <aetherian> well, see, some things happen when you're running a winver
#2208 [20:09] <aetherian> Jayro: is there a larger error report?
#2209 [20:09] <aetherian> if so, pastebin it
#2210 [20:10] <Jayro> yes, it just gives the location of the line of the bad code
#2211 [20:10] <Jayro> i am starting it with the java -xblahblah from minecraft.net
#2212 [20:10] <Jayro> is it possible that thats giving it more ram then i have?
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#2214 [20:11] <tNt> how do you download maps
#2215 [20:12] <tNt> hello????
#2216 [20:12] <mitpatterson> tNt, don't expect instant responses
#2217 [20:12] <tNt> oh
#2218 [20:13] <mitpatterson> i mean, you only waited like 30 seconds
#2219 [20:13] <Thoatt|AFK> instant? We had 43 seconds to respond!
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#2221 [20:13] <tNt> but whose counting
#2222 [20:13] <raskull> what do you mean, download them? are you having troubles actually downloading it, or troubles with installing/using the download?
#2223 [20:14] <mitpatterson> apparenty Thoatt|AFK is
#2224 [20:14] <Thoatt|AFK> wget http://www.addressofmap.crap/mapfiles
#2225 [20:14] <Thoatt|AFK> :)
#2226 [20:14] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2227 [20:15] <tNt> i dont get how to download maps to you know like 101 ways to die or something
#2228 [20:15] <Thoatt|AFK> Are you new to the internet?
#2229 [20:15] <raskull> you find a link on a website, then download it.. *shrug*
#2230 [20:15] <raskull> click to download@
#2231 [20:15] <mitpatterson> troll alert
#2232 [20:16] <Thoatt|AFK> xales takes the tickets, fasten your seatbelt, etc.
#2233 [20:16] <tNt> sec..
#2234 [20:16] <raskull> how do i shot web?
#2235 [20:17] <tNt> so im on mc forums bu there is nothing that says downlaod
#2236 [20:18] <raskull> then maybe the guy that posted it forgot the link
#2237 [20:18] * mitpatterson hits head on desk
#2237 [20:18] <raskull> what's the address?
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#2239 [20:19] <Espeon> Vox, decloak
#2240 [20:19] * VoxelHead shifts back into view
#2240 [20:19] <mitpatterson> lol
#2241 [20:20] <Espeon> Voxel, ignore aetherian
#2242 [20:20] <VoxelHead> what?
#2243 [20:21] <Espeon> VoxelHead: /ignore aetherian!*@*
#2244 [20:22] <VoxelHead> whom?
#2245 [20:22] <tNt> sh*t no its not that becus everything is ee i cant download what would the button be
#2246 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> Espeon: what are you trying to accomplish, precisely?
#2247 [20:22] <raskull> tNt: what's the address?
#2248 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> tNt: try rephrasing that in the form of a sentence?
#2249 [20:22] <tNt> what does that mean
#2250 [20:22] * TonyWanis [TonyWanis@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2251 [20:23] <TonyWanis> I need help
#2252 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> TonyWanis ask
#2253 [20:23] <VoxelHead> TonyWanis: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2254 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> What is the location of what you're trying to donnload tNt?
#2255 [20:23] <VoxelHead> TonyWanis: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2256 [20:23] <Thoatt|AFK> We don't offer psychiatric help TonyWanis.
#2257 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> If you tell us what you're looking at right now, maybe we can help you
#2258 [20:23] <TonyWanis> Is there any way I could get minecraft for free?
#2259 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> TonyWanis: yes; play Classic
#2260 [20:23] <Thoatt|AFK> Not legally.
#2261 [20:24] <Thoatt|AFK> or that >.>
#2262 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Classic is free, check minecraft.net
#2263 [20:24] <TonyWanis> Ok Thnkz GreyVulpine
#2264 [20:25] <tNt> um there are comments on the forum but is there a certain icon to click because plenty of comments say they got it and it was great, its called abducted by a creeper if you want tosee
#2265 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us the forum link you're looking at?
#2266 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> What is the URL of that page? Where is it?
#2267 [20:26] <tNt> it is http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1034&t=224770&start=90
#2268 [20:26] <mitpatterson> go here:http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1034&t=224770&sid=4b2e9c9c82273a5141fb32f50d362a41
#2269 [20:26] <mitpatterson> you are on the wrong page
#2270 [20:27] <mitpatterson> you need to go to page one
#2271 [20:27] <raskull> go to page 1, and there is a huge download link
#2272 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> mitpatterson: why are you including your session ID in that? (:
#2273 [20:27] <mitpatterson> raskull, beeat yah to it
#2274 [20:27] <mitpatterson> DopeGhoti, no clue, lol, i'm not logged in or anything
#2275 [20:27] <raskull> :P
#2276 [20:28] <tNt> so then i click download with media fire
#2277 [20:28] <mitpatterson> yah
#2278 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#2279 [20:28] <LoRDTrevor> ok minecraft related question(it really is just let me get there): you can run gnome on debian right?
#2280 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#2281 [20:29] <LoRDTrevor> ok how well do you think an original xbox running debian with gnome would run minecraft?
#2282 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> it'd be iffy
#2283 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> ?? requirements/lessrude
#2284 [20:29] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#2285 [20:29] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#2286 [20:29] <tNt> ummmm.. do you have to sign up for media fire
#2287 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> I don't think the xbox has the RAM
#2288 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> tNt - No
#2289 [20:30] <mitpatterson> ?? requirements
#2290 [20:30] <mitpatterson> ?? requirements/morerude
#2291 [20:30] <LoRDTrevor> i just need to run the client
#2292 [20:30] <aetherian> mitpatterson: you mean lessrude?
#2293 [20:30] <mitpatterson> i want to see the more rude version, lol
#2294 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> I think he was looking to see the rude one
#2295 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> ??>> mitpatterson requirements
#2296 [20:31] <mitpatterson> eh, thats not that much more rude
#2297 [20:31] <tNt> al.l it says is doenload (not spelled that way) sso i hit it and it says download to computer so i hit that and then it keeps popping up dony have an account get one for free
#2298 [20:32] <mitpatterson> tNt, your doing it wrong, i just downloaded it, one click
#2299 [20:32] <mitpatterson> well 2
#2300 [20:32] <mitpatterson> the download in the forum post
#2301 [20:32] <tNt> secc.
#2302 [20:32] <mitpatterson> then "Click here to start download from mediafire"
#2303 [20:32] <LoRDTrevor> woah nevermind. 64mb of ram
#2304 [20:32] <LoRDTrevor> how did people even game on that
#2305 [20:33] <tNt> it sasys starting your download
#2306 [20:33] <mitpatterson> it will change in a minute
#2307 [20:33] <tNt> click her eto start download from media fire
#2308 [20:33] <mitpatterson> err, it will staet the download, or promnt you to save it or something(depending on Browser)
#2309 [20:34] <tNt> click here to start download from media fire
#2310 [20:34] <mitpatterson> click that button
#2311 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> LoRDTrevor: not very well (:
#2312 [20:35] <tNt> i clicked and absolutely no stuff happened
#2313 [20:35] <tNt> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
#2314 [20:35] <tNt> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
#2315 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> !k tNt
#2316 [20:35] <LoRDTrevor> yech the 360 only has 512mb. I suppose getting a good computer cheap isnt possible :(
#2317 [20:35] <tNt> yeah k
#2318 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> LoRDTrevor: define cheap.
#2319 [20:36] * DopeGhoti just built a decent <$400 PC
#2319 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> throw in a better GPU and it'll be a couple notches above 'decent
#2320 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Just bought a 340 dollar lenovo PC to replace a server
#2321 [20:37] <LoRDTrevor> DopeGhoti: less than 200 bucks
#2322 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> had an athlon X2 CPU, 3 gigs of DDR3 ram
#2323 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: that'd make a nice server
#2324 [20:37] <LoRDTrevor> my server is running on a damn e-machine
#2325 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> That's what Greybot is running on now
#2326 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: so you're replaced the components that are missing the magic smoke?
#2327 [20:38] <VoxelHead> moist knickers
#2328 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, Socket939 mobo, no more replacments for that thing
#2329 [20:38] <tNt> this is not working i clicke dit again and it says your download is starting
#2330 [20:39] <LoRDTrevor> wait a minute how much ram does minecraft actually use? because im sure theres a way to use the x enviorment without a full out GUI like gnome.
#2331 [20:39] <raskull> tNt: how did you manage to get into irc?
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#2333 [20:39] <mitpatterson> tNt, what browser are you using?
#2334 [20:40] <tNt> speaky english :p
#2335 [20:40] <mitpatterson> !k tNt
#2336 [20:40] <tNt> !!!!
#2337 [20:40] <VoxelHead> #£*£^^~!#£
#2338 [20:40] <LoRDTrevor> !k ?
#2339 [20:40] <mitpatterson> what do you click when you go online?
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#2341 [20:41] <tNt> kk first i click download to go to the website then i clickey download itself and then i click download to mediafire
#2342 [20:41] <mitpatterson> tNt, go to http://www.meatspin.com
#2343 [20:41] <AG_Scott> Kealper, xales
#2344 [20:41] <tNt> how doe shtat help
#2345 [20:42] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine,
#2346 [20:42] <AG_Scott> DopeGhoti,
#2347 [20:42] <AG_Scott> :P
#2348 [20:42] <Kealper> rawr
#2349 [20:42] <AG_Scott> read up.
#2350 [20:42] * Kealper kicked mitpatterson from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mitpatterson)
#2351 [20:42] <AG_Scott> dealwithkthx
#2352 [20:42] <AG_Scott> M needs op in here
#2353 [20:42] <Kealper> does it kick for that?
#2354 [20:42] <tNt> what the F*** mitpatterson
#2355 [20:42] <AG_Scott> No, but i could :P
#2356 [20:42] <AG_Scott> Lol'd.
#2357 [20:43] <AG_Scott> I love that site.
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#2359 [20:43] <tNt> thank you kealper
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#2362 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> LoRDTrevor: Minecraft allocates 1GB at startup
#2363 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: acknowledged
#2364 [20:44] <LoRDTrevor> ty
#2365 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> looks like Kealper handled before I got to it, AG_Scott
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#2367 [20:45] <AG_Scott> yep
#2368 [20:45] <AG_Scott> mass op highlight ftw though
#2369 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> mitpatterson: NSFW links are not permitted here; that was your warning.
#2370 [20:45] <LoRDTrevor> anyone know a irc network with a good #linux channel?
#2371 [20:45] <K0> Hi
#2372 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: :/notice @#minecrafthelp halp meh!
#2373 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> LoRDTrevor: freenode
#2374 [20:45] <Kealper> ^
#2375 [20:45] <AG_Scott> oright
#2376 [20:46] <K0> guys is there a list of ip's
#2377 [20:46] <LoRDTrevor> ty
#2378 [20:46] <mitpatterson> DopeGhoti, i got it, i'm
#2379 [20:46] <K0> that you can play online
#2380 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> also, vops should have access to /cs kick
#2381 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> If I'm not mistaken
#2382 [20:46] <AG_Scott> no they don't.
#2383 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> No
#2384 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> ?
#2385 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> ??> K0 smp/servers
#2386 [20:47] <VoxelHead> K0: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2387 [20:47] <VoxelHead> K0: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2388 [20:47] <AG_Scott> well if I recall correctly, they don't.
#2389 [20:47] <AG_Scott> VOP = AVv
#2390 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried in this channel?
#2391 [20:47] <AG_Scott> i haven't
#2392 [20:47] <VoxelHead> r
#2393 [20:47] <AG_Scott> who2kick?
#2394 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Greybot
#2395 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> for experimentation? yourself (:
#2396 [20:47] <AG_Scott> -ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
#2397 [20:47] <AG_Scott> as I suspected
#2398 [20:47] <AG_Scott> VOP does not have the flag.
#2399 [20:47] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#2399 [20:47] <raskull> LoRDTrevor: efnet's isn't bad
#2400 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: VOPs may not be able to kick AOPs via channy
#2401 [20:48] <raskull> although I haven't been in there in ages
#2402 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> greybot didn't have aop
#2403 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2404 [20:48] <VoiceofTreason> Anyone else try to get on the bukkit plug-ins and have probs?
#2405 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> whoa.. /cs has a roll command?
#2406 [20:48] * DopeGhoti doesn't want to know
#2406 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> /cs roll 1d20
#2407 [20:49] <Kealper> rolled a 16 on a 1d20 :/
#2408 [20:49] <Kealper> lol grey
#2409 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> "/msg chanserv rickroll #minecraft"
#2410 [20:49] <AG_Scott> ??> VoiceofTreason smp/mods
#2411 [20:49] <AG_Scott> bleh
#2412 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Back to flags, hmm
#2413 [20:49] <VoiceofTreason> George Michael is the new Rick Roll.
#2414 [20:49] <AG_Scott> VoiceofTreason, checkout #bukkit
#2415 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: ..not sure why VoxelHead didn't respond to that
#2416 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> it should have
#2417 [20:49] <VoiceofTreason> Ah yes, I forget they have one
#2418 [20:50] <mitpatterson> did tnt ever get that download working?
#2419 [20:50] <VoiceofTreason> bukkit?
#2420 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: try ??< index
#2421 [20:50] <VoiceofTreason> hmm?
#2422 [20:50] <AG_Scott> ??< index
#2423 [20:50] <Thoatt|AFK> 20:49:32 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.esper.net)- 20 == 20
#2424 [20:50] <Thoatt|AFK> AWWWW YEAH!
#2425 [20:50] <VoiceofTreason> BUKKIT
#2426 [20:50] <Kealper> hax
#2427 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: anything?
#2428 [20:50] <AG_Scott> its just mods
#2429 [20:50] <AG_Scott> ??> DopeGhoti mods
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#2431 [20:50] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2432 [20:50] <VoiceofTreason> Does voxel just respond to keywords? right?
#2433 [20:50] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2434 [20:50] <AG_Scott> That's a bit confusing
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#2436 [20:50] <AG_Scott> it should be smp/mods
#2437 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> why? We also don't support SSP mods
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#2439 [20:51] <AG_Scott> well i guess it's not
#2440 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> on-deck is a more searchy version of the index though
#2441 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> so if you search for foo/bar and there is no foo/, it will try for bar
#2442 [20:52] <mitpatterson> hmm, my grass seems to have stop spreading for some reason
#2443 [20:53] <VoiceofTreason> Mitpatterson is there shade?
#2444 [20:54] <mitpatterson> hmmm, no, i have a bunch of torches right around them too
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#2446 [20:54] <VoiceofTreason> I remember the torches yes
#2447 [20:55] <mitpatterson> anyone else seems to have way more cobbel stone then they could ever use?
#2448 [20:56] <Thoatt|AFK> mitpatterson: I burn mine in lava all the time
#2449 [20:56] <mitpatterson> lol, i have 2 double chest FULL of cobble stones
#2450 [20:56] <mitpatterson> and i've only been playing for a few days
#2451 [20:56] <raskull> that's honestly not much heh
#2452 [20:57] <raskull> save it though, you might want to make a huge project some day
#2453 [20:57] <Thoatt|AFK> dig out the dirt below the chests, throw a bucket of lava under it, break open chest with ax, ???? PROFIT!!!
#2454 [20:57] <mitpatterson> i haven't burned mine yet just incase i do want a project, granted i prefer glass
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#2456 [21:00] <ak-creeper> helo!!
#2457 [21:01] <Thoatt|AFK> helo!! to you too!
#2458 [21:01] <ak-creeper> once i download a map file , how do i put it in my minecraft folder
#2459 [21:01] <Thoatt|AFK> %appdata%/.minecraft
#2460 [21:01] <Thoatt|AFK> that is it's location :L)
#2461 [21:01] <Thoatt|AFK> :)*
#2462 [21:02] <raskull> the map files usually go in their own folder, inside the saves folder.
#2463 [21:02] <Thoatt|AFK> Or you can load the map from any location from inside of minecraft.
#2464 [21:03] <ak-creeper> how???
#2465 [21:03] <Thoatt|AFK> wait no.. I'm dumb
#2466 [21:03] <Thoatt|AFK> you can't lol
#2467 [21:03] <Thoatt|AFK> Could have sworn there was an option to do so...
#2468 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> no, but you can open the file browser from within Minecraft
#2469 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> and put the world in the location it opens
#2470 [21:03] <ak-creeper> AGAIN<HOW
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#2472 [21:03] <ak-creeper> oh gos, had caps ob
#2473 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/.minecraft
#2474 [21:04] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#2475 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> or, in minefraft, from the menu, click 'mods and texture packs' and there will be a button to open a file browser in that location
#2476 [21:04] <owskie> anyone here know how to fix java errors
#2477 [21:04] <VoxelHead> nein
#2478 [21:05] <ak-creeper> ok im on .minecraft now what
#2479 [21:06] <raskull> ak-creeper: do you know how to copy/paste files?
#2480 [21:06] <ak-creeper> sooooo now what
#2481 [21:06] <Thoatt|AFK> ak-creeper: open the saves foler
#2482 [21:06] <ak-creeper> scraftch that comment
#2483 [21:06] <Thoatt|AFK> folder*
#2484 [21:07] <ak-creeper> k got the name of my single player server
#2485 [21:07] <ak-creeper> then what
#2486 [21:09] <raskull> is the map you downloaded a zip, or?
#2487 [21:09] <ak-creeper> i think zip
#2488 [21:09] <raskull> do you have a zip program to open it?
#2489 [21:10] <ak-creeper> wait is that like rar
#2490 [21:10] <raskull> same idea, yes..
#2491 [21:10] <raskull> any program that opens a rar file will also open a zip
#2492 [21:11] <ak-creeper> kk
#2493 [21:11] <ak-creeper> but i have it downloaded i just need to get it on to my minecrfta to play
#2494 [21:11] <raskull> extract the files into your saves dir
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#2496 [21:11] <raskull> then when you play minecraft, you can open that map
#2497 [21:12] <ak-creeper> come again :l
#2498 [21:12] <raskull> did you open the zip file?
#2499 [21:13] <ak-creeper> wait i lost the file sec..................
#2500 [21:14] <ak-creeper> ummm i hvae a folder with bin , saves, etc.
#2501 [21:14] <raskull> inside the zip file?
#2502 [21:14] <ak-creeper> :) :( :(:)
#2503 [21:14] <ak-creeper> no
#2504 [21:15] <raskull> ok, that's your minecraft folder. open the saves folder
#2505 [21:15] <ak-creeper> kk
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#2507 [21:15] <raskull> then you need to open the zip file your downloaded, and put it's contents into the saves folder
#2508 [21:15] <ak-creeper> have folder called minecraftia
#2509 [21:15] <ak-creeper> in saves
#2510 [21:15] <raskull> so you will have saves/minecraftia
#2511 [21:15] <ak-creeper> thats my singleplayer name
#2512 [21:15] <ak-creeper> :D
#2513 [21:16] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2514 [21:16] <adactuslatem> hello, can skin problems be helped here?
#2515 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2516 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> What problems are you having?
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#2518 [21:17] <adactuslatem> I am trying to upload a skin from http://www.minecraftskins.com/ and I get this error: Failed to save skin: org.jets3t.service.S3ServiceException: Request Error. PUT '/MinecraftSkins/adactuslatem.png' on Host 's3.amazonaws.com' @ 'Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:16:59 GMT' -- ResponseCode: 400, ResponseStatus: Bad Request
#2519 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> That's because you're using minecraftskins.com to directly upload your skin
#2520 [21:17] <adactuslatem> ah
#2521 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Download it from minecraftskins.com, and use minecraft.net, use your profile page there to upload it
#2522 [21:17] <adactuslatem> It used to work, or at least I thought it did
#2523 [21:17] <adactuslatem> ok
#2524 [21:17] <adactuslatem> thank you
#2525 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> It did, before minecraft switched to amazon's cloud, back in December or so
#2526 [21:18] <ak-creeper> ummmm i cant get my zip folder, how do i get it
#2527 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> The creator of minecraftskins.com never updated it to work since then
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#2529 [21:18] <Thoatt|AFK> ak-creeper: double click on the map zip file you downloaded.
#2530 [21:19] <ak-creeper> kk
#2531 [21:20] <VoxelHead> i like them :-)
#2532 [21:20] <Leon> Hello there does anyone think they could help me out with some slight issues that I'm currently trying to deal with involving my minecraft and its fps?
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#2534 [21:20] <ak-creeper> double click and nothing happened
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#2536 [21:23] <Kealper> fair warning....if aubot has op in a channel....don't say any shocker sites
#2537 [21:23] <Thoatt|AFK> Time to have me a lemonparty?
#2538 [21:23] * AuBot kicked Thoatt|AFK from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
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#2540 [21:23] <Espeon> lemon party?
#2541 [21:23] <mitpatterson> lmao
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#2543 [21:23] <mitpatterson> don't google that
#2544 [21:23] <Thoatt|AFK> lol
#2545 [21:23] <Leon> Its a shocker site,
#2546 [21:24] <ak-creeper> tooo tire d night
#2547 [21:24] <mitpatterson> so it detected taht and auto kicked for that?
#2548 [21:24] <mib_ps0dfg> hey anyone know how to fix internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception: read timed out
#2549 [21:24] <Thoatt|AFK> yes mib_ps0dfg
#2550 [21:24] <Thoatt|AFK> mitpatterson:*
#2551 [21:24] <Leon> Dont waste your time on it, is anyone here capable or willing to help me out with some issues?
#2552 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Leon - What exactly?
#2553 [21:24] <mitpatterson> was it you that did yesteday or someone else?( Thoatt|AFK )
#2554 [21:24] <Kealper> Leon: capable? most likely. willing? depends on the error
#2555 [21:24] <mitpatterson> did that*
#2556 [21:25] <Thoatt|AFK> mitpatterson: did what? lol
#2557 [21:25] <Leon> My minecraft seems to really lagg and has spikes in fps when i play minecraft.
#2558 [21:25] <mitpatterson> instead of saying mitpatterson saing mib_ps0dfg
#2559 [21:25] <Thoatt|AFK> idk.. lol
#2560 [21:25] <Thoatt|AFK> shit... I gotta go to work...
#2561 [21:25] <Thoatt|AFK> afk forrealz
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#2563 [21:25] <mitpatterson> scy
#2564 [21:25] <mitpatterson> cya
#2565 [21:25] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go o_O.
#2566 [21:25] <Leon> Could be a lot of causes, so i'm not sure if you will be willing to help grey.
#2567 [21:25] <mitpatterson> lol, nice comeback VoiceofTreason
#2568 [21:26] <mitpatterson> VoxelHead,
#2569 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> There's plenty of causes for that, many of which don't have a real solution..
#2570 [21:26] <aetherian> tabfail, haha
#2571 [21:26] <VoxelHead> You dare insult the pants of VoxelHead@~%percent*$$@%percent.
#2572 [21:26] <VoiceofTreason> hmm?
#2573 [21:26] <aetherian> VoiceofTreason: nothing
#2574 [21:27] <mitpatterson> yah, sorry, i typo tabbed VoiceofTreason
#2575 [21:27] <VoiceofTreason> Ahh
#2576 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> 1.3 introduced a lag issue, which there is no fix for. MC itself isn't optimized in the least yet, which does contribute to some lag. Both of these, all you can do is wait for an update
#2577 [21:27] <Leon> Any way to identify the cause, i don't think its the specs considering this pc has better specs than my last one but runs minecraft 10 times slower.
#2578 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Leon - Is this Single Player, or SMP lag?
#2579 [21:28] <Leon> Both
#2580 [21:28] <Leon> Single and Mp
#2581 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Have you checked in the F3 prompt? looked at FPS there?
#2582 [21:28] <VoxelHead> lots and lots of tea
#2583 [21:28] <Leon> yes
#2584 [21:28] <Kealper> vox, shut it
#2585 [21:28] <Leon> It usually runs 8 fps on multiplayer.
#2586 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Also, your own OS's monitor, looked at RAM and CPU usage of the java process
#2587 [21:28] <Kealper> hmm...he didn't add that
#2588 [21:28] <Leon> and in singleplayer depending on area 30 - 80 fps
#2589 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Leon, have you tried turning the graphics rendering from fancy to fast, turning up fog, and turning off smooth lighting
#2590 [21:29] <Leon> Let me check my java usage.
#2591 [21:29] <mitpatterson> i think i may have just flooded my mine with lava, AHHH
#2592 [21:29] <Leon> Yes, i have tried turning the graphics to its lowest
#2593 [21:30] <Leon> I.E fast, short render, no smooth auto lighting, etc
#2594 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> What kind of graphics card are you running?
#2595 [21:30] <Leon> That would be the problem
#2596 [21:30] <Kealper> inb4 gma950
#2597 [21:30] <Leon> Intel (HD) i dont consider this a graphics card.
#2598 [21:30] <mitpatterson> yah, now i'm flooding it with water, lol
#2599 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Eh, yeah.. that would be a problem Leon
#2600 [21:30] <Kealper> inb4 i pretty much called that
#2601 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> You wouldn't be the first one to experience slowdown with that
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#2603 [21:31] <Kealper> indeed, that thing is one of the main reasons people can't play minecraft on netbooks
#2604 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Unforunately, there's no solution besides either buying a dedicated graphics card, or waiting for Mojang to optimize the codebase
#2605 [21:32] <Leon> I suspected it, but i had read alot of comment explaining that the graphics card were not as important as other parts for minecraft, and Grey thank you for the help im just glad to know all i need to do is update it (or atleast thats what it might be) and wether thats the problem or not thanks for the support guys.
#2606 [21:33] <Leon> Upgrade* not update.
#2607 [21:36] <mitpatterson> when i hit F3, what number is the "level"
#2608 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> y
#2609 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Goes from 0-128
#2610 [21:37] <mitpatterson> ok, how does 1 bucket of water manage to flood from level 61, down to 5?
#2611 [21:37] <[z]> It doesn't have a downwards limit, I think
#2612 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Heh, yeah, it kinda does that.. Water can flow 7 blocks horizontally for every 1 block vertically it drops
#2613 [21:38] <SkiingPenguins> :O
#2614 [21:38] <mitpatterson> all i now, thats a big bucket of water, lol
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#2616 [21:38] <VoxelHead> Sufferin' succatash!
#2617 [21:39] <SkiingPenguins> if i dropped it down a 100 block edge it could flow 700 blocks to the left of the bottom?
#2618 [21:39] <mitpatterson> would lava do the same thing(albiet slower)
#2619 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> No, it'll only flow 7 blocks at the bottom
#2620 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> think of a steppe, that's how water flows, it doesn't gain momentum with a straight vertical drop
#2621 [21:40] <mitpatterson> lava spill under control, YAH
#2622 [21:41] <mitpatterson> and my grass still managed to make in the mine(where i wanted it to)
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#2625 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that, might need to be changed
#2626 [21:55] <bokaholic> Do I have to set someone permission to build on my server if blocks just come back after digging?
#2627 [21:55] <bokaholic> If so, what is the command? ;.;
#2628 [21:56] <xales> You must be an op to build near the spawn
#2629 [21:56] <xales> otherwise, just walk away from it
#2630 [21:58] <bokaholic> Thanks man :)
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#2635 [22:25] <GypsyReborn> hey
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#2641 [22:37] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
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#2643 [22:37] <holliebuckets> hello? :)
#2644 [22:39] <holliebuckets> i just have a question on running multiplayer with a netbook... has anyone tried it yet???
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#2646 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> People have tried, but usually the netbooks are underpowered at best and can barely run MC, if at all.
#2647 [22:41] <holliebuckets> do you have any spec data on multiplayer??
#2648 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#2649 [22:45] <holliebuckets> like any system requirements or usage data??
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#2651 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> I can't really give you anything concrete, seeing as how minecraft is still in beta, and is in an active development cycle, with frequent updates.
#2652 [22:53] <holliebuckets> yes i understand that - just wanted to know if there was anyway to judge if it would work before i tried it tonight :)
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#2654 [22:54] <JustHayden> anyone like to assist me?
#2655 [22:54] <Ritchie> how do you get stone
#2656 [22:54] <Ritchie> i cant see any >.>~
#2657 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Your best shot, is for a machine that has a dedicated graphics card, supporting at an absolute minimum, the 1.3 OpenGL standard, a 2.0Ghz CPU, and at least a gig of RAM free.
#2658 [22:54] <JustHayden> u mine cobblestone then put it in furnace
#2659 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Ritchie - Just dig down with a pickaxe
#2660 [22:54] <Ritchie> wait
#2661 [22:54] <Ritchie> how do you get a wodden pickaxe first
#2662 [22:54] <Ritchie> fuck i did this last time no problems now im confused LOL
#2663 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tools
#2664 [22:55] <holliebuckets> GreyVulpine I should be ok then :D I will let you know how it goes and maybe I can help later on in development
#2665 [22:55] <holliebuckets> thank you for your help!!! GreyVulpine
#2666 [22:55] <JustHayden> can someone help me with a mod? its the jarasic craft mod that i cant get working... i can get any other mod going execpt this 1
#2667 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> We don't really give support here for third party mods, Try #risucraft
#2668 [22:56] <JustHayden> those fuckers dont help, they say its just a mod chat not mod help
#2669 [22:56] <JustHayden> and its not a 3rd party mod, its a released mod on the forums
#2670 [22:56] <JustHayden> has over 16k downloads
#2671 [22:57] <JustHayden> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=173534
#2672 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> It's still a third party mod, it's not something that's officially coded or released by Mojang
#2673 [22:57] <Espeon> All mods are third-party mods
#2674 [22:58] * VoxelHead is away: yo mamma
#2674 [22:58] <JustHayden> oh, well you cant just help me get it installed? i drag and dropped just like any other mod but its simply doesnt work
#2675 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Can you try installing just that mod itself?
#2676 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> If it works, then there's some incompatibility between that mod and others you've loaded
#2677 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> If it doesn't, well...
#2678 [22:59] <JustHayden> ok ill try that
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#2680 [23:02] <JustHayden> nope, still doesnt make the flux compassiotr
#2681 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure that mod is compatible with 1.3_01?
#2682 [23:03] <JustHayden> yup, says right on the thread
#2683 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Link?
#2684 [23:04] <JustHayden> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=173534
#2685 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Okay, when you installed it, did you also delete meta-inf in minecraft.jar?
#2686 [23:05] <JustHayden> i just foudn the tut video, didnt see it before ill try and follow that and see if theres anything different than what i tryed... and ya i know how to install mods, this ones just messin with me
#2687 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Looks like in the comments there, one person mentioned that it was incompatible with modloader and other mods
#2688 [23:06] <JustHayden> well already found something different that the way i tryed installing it, ill try that way
#2689 [23:10] <JustHayden> sweet, got it working :D
#2690 [23:10] <JustHayden> thx 4 the help, if it wernt 4 u i wouldnt have looked over the tread again :P
#2691 [23:11] <JustHayden> thread*
#2692 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> What was the problem?
#2693 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Or how did you install it before?
#2694 [23:11] <JustHayden> i had to open up a spesific folder in the file and drag and drop all thats stuff, instead i was copying both the folders
#2695 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Aaah, okay
#2696 [23:12] <JustHayden> i wanna make a server for this mod, make a jarasic park island replica and shit
#2697 [23:12] <JustHayden> maybe put in some quests
#2698 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, it looks like this is a SP only mod.
#2699 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't work in SMP.
#2700 [23:13] <JustHayden> idk id have to look into it further
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#2704 [23:27] <xales> VoxelHead: I'm Miclee
#2705 [23:27] <xales> derp
#2706 [23:27] <xales> I'm Miclee
#2707 [23:27] <xales> :|
#2708 [23:30] <xales> I'm Miclee
#2709 [23:31] <aetherian> xales: what did you do, murder a friend of his or something?
#2710 [23:31] <aetherian> he just hates you so much it seems
#2711 [23:31] <xales> I'm Miclee
#2712 [23:31] <xales> VoxelHead: courtmartial aetherian
#2713 [23:31] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial xales
#2714 [23:32] <xales> oh
#2715 [23:32] <aetherian> it's away though
#2716 [23:32] <xales> he is away
#2717 [23:32] <xales> D:
#2718 [23:32] <xales> let me see if I can fix this
#2719 [23:32] <mitpatterson> vox awake
#2720 [23:32] <mitpatterson> VoxelHead awake
#2721 [23:32] <mitpatterson> VoxelHead stop hiding
#2722 [23:32] <Espeon> Vox, decloak
#2723 [23:32] <xales> VoxelHead: courtmartial aetherian
#2724 [23:32] <mitpatterson> i fixed him
#2725 [23:33] <xales> I swear
#2726 [23:33] <mitpatterson> i woke him up, hes not away, but hes still not responding
#2727 [23:33] <xales> the bot is mental
#2728 [23:33] <aetherian> it's still away >.>
#2729 [23:33] <Espeon> VoxelHead, courtmartial aetherian
#2730 [23:33] <xales> 23:32:07 <xales> .bmotion away
#2731 [23:33] <xales> 23:32:08 <VoxelHead> I am currently away.
#2732 [23:33] <xales> 23:32:11 <xales> .bmotion away off
#2733 [23:33] <xales> 23:32:11 <VoxelHead> Coming back from being away.
#2734 [23:33] <xales> 23:32:13 <xales> .bmotion away
#2735 [23:33] <xales> 23:32:13 <VoxelHead> I am not away.
#2736 [23:33] <mitpatterson> oh.... sorry, it looksed different on mine(i had him selected)
#2737 [23:33] <aetherian> it's technically away though
#2738 [23:33] <xales> but..still away
#2739 [23:33] <mitpatterson> vox decloack
#2740 [23:33] <aetherian> :)
#2741 [23:33] <aetherian> just be patient
#2742 [23:33] <mitpatterson> VoxelHead HELP
#2743 [23:33] <Espeon> It's away "yo mamma"
#2744 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> You broke Vox, hope you're happy
#2745 [23:34] <Bob_Sack> vox's not cool anyways
#2746 [23:34] <Bob_Sack> joshua is a better help bot any day
#2747 [23:34] <Espeon> no, derpbot > all
#2748 [23:35] <aetherian> !ping
#2749 [23:35] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.624 seconds.
#2750 [23:35] <aetherian> jeez
#2751 [23:35] <aetherian> granted, I'm doing lotsa internet things
#2752 [23:35] <Bob_Sack> !ping
#2753 [23:35] <GreyBot> Bob_Sack Your Ping time was 0.592 seconds.
#2754 [23:35] <xales> GAH
#2755 [23:35] <Bob_Sack> surprises me
#2756 [23:36] <xales> I reloaded him completely and still it's "I am silent"
#2757 [23:36] <Bob_Sack> im running a mc classic and beta server
#2758 [23:37] <mitpatterson> try kicking him
#2759 [23:37] <Espeon> Voxel: ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ
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#2761 [23:38] <Bob_Sack> whose bot is voxel anyways?
#2762 [23:38] <xales> dopeghoti
#2763 [23:39] <Bob_Sack> make him fix it =P
#2764 [23:39] <xales> tis not broken
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#2766 [23:44] <Nocsaron> hey all, ive been having trouble running minecraft on ubuntu 10.10. When i run it, i get "Failed to open device (/dev/input/event#)" and then aborts if i do anything after the start menu
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#2768 [23:44] <Nocsaron> does anyone know what may be causing this?
#2769 [23:45] <xanderp> Is there a channel dedicated to troubleshooting crashes that are likely mod related? (minecart mania specifically)
#2770 [23:46] <xales> xanderp: #risucraft
#2771 [23:46] <xales> Nocsaron: That's..intersting
#2772 [23:46] <xanderp> @xales thank you!
#2773 [23:47] <xales> I believe it's related to input devices connected to the computer..do you have anything other than a mouse plugged into it?
#2774 [23:47] <Bob_Sack> xanderp: #bukkit also offers some support for bukkit plugins
#2775 [23:47] <mitpatterson> xales, why do you guys have a " #mcbots" channel?
#2776 [23:47] <mitpatterson> .
#2777 [23:47] <xanderp> bob_sack: thanks!
#2778 [23:47] <xales> mitpatterson: because?
#2779 [23:47] <mitpatterson> lol
#2780 [23:47] <mitpatterson> i triied to join, to see what was up, i got kicked and banned
#2781 [23:48] <xales> That's the idea
#2782 [23:48] <mitpatterson> lol
#2783 [23:48] <mitpatterson> mean
#2784 [23:48] <xales> It's not supposed to be public |:
#2785 [23:48] <mitpatterson> can i get in?
#2786 [23:48] <xales> No
#2787 [23:48] <mitpatterson> :(
#2788 [23:50] <dopeghoti> xales:
#2789 [23:51] <xales> dopeghoti:
#2790 [23:51] <Nocsaron> @xales the only other input device is my mic
#2791 [23:51] <xales> Nocsaron: one sec
#2792 [23:52] <xales> do you have more than one monitor?
#2793 [23:52] <Nocsaron> yeah i have 2
#2794 [23:52] <xales> Try disabling the second one
#2795 [23:53] <Nocsaron> hm..hadnt thought of that
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#2797 [23:53] <mitpatterson> dopeghoti, your bot is borked
#2798 [23:57] <Nocsaron> Espeon: thanks, that worked
#2799 [23:58] <Espeon> lol
#2800 [23:58] <Espeon> You mean xales
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