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#2 [00:01] <Balthazaar_89> i think im gonna give up on it *shrugs* i hate to do it, but...
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#5 [00:08] <krebbit> Can I borrow some help? >.<;
#6 [00:09] <xales> sigh
#7 [00:12] <dopeghoti> apparently the answer to that was 'no'.
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#10 [00:26] <mitpatterson_> anyone know why why on my server, that right now i was the only one on it, just a explosion happened?(like the creepers) but i had already killed the 2 that i saw around
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#12 [00:27] <Jake_Bartley> Hey
#13 [00:27] <Jake_Bartley> Anyone here?
#14 [00:27] <VoxelHead> *shakes head*
#15 [00:28] <mitpatterson_> lol vox
#16 [00:28] <Jake_Bartley> Hey voxel
#17 [00:28] <VoxelHead> ;)
#18 [00:28] <xales> Jake_Bartley: VoxelHead is a bot :|
#19 [00:28] <Jake_Bartley> all yall play minecraft
#20 [00:28] <mitpatterson_> vox courtmartial Jake_Bartley
#21 [00:28] <xales> what do you need help with?
#22 [00:28] <VoxelHead> LIES, ALL LIES
#23 [00:28] <VoxelHead> unless a witness steps forward
#24 [00:28] <Jake_Bartley> ?
#25 [00:28] <xales> ?
#26 [00:28] <mitpatterson_> ?
#27 [00:28] <VoxelHead> Jake_Bartley, you are charged with misuse of the entire female crew, and terraforming a shuttle [citation needed]
#28 [00:28] <VoxelHead> have been found guilty, and are sentenced to listen to Harry Kim practice the clarinet. And may God have mercy on soul.
#29 [00:29] <Jake_Bartley> do all of yall play the game
#30 [00:29] <xales> I guess?
#31 [00:29] <xales> What can we help you with?
#32 [00:29] <Jake_Bartley> lucky.
#33 [00:30] <Jake_Bartley> nothing just thought it was a community chat. cant afford the atm. just asking if its worth the money iff i ever get it?
#34 [00:30] <mitpatterson_> yes, and the general chat i think is just #minecraft
#35 [00:30] <xales> this is #minecrafthelp - general chat is #minecraft
#36 [00:30] <mitpatterson_> (that yes was to the "is it worth it"
#37 [00:30] <Jake_Bartley> sorryl
#38 [00:30] <Jake_Bartley> ok, hope my mom will ever get it haha.
#39 [00:31] <mitpatterson_> just be worned, it will probaly make your productivy plumit
#40 [00:31] <VoxelHead> The child shrieks like a fruitbat!
#41 [00:31] <mitpatterson_> lol vox
#42 [00:31] <Jake_Bartley> huh?
#43 [00:31] <mitpatterson_> its the bot, ignore him
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#45 [00:31] <Jake_Bartley> no what did you say?
#46 [00:31] <mitpatterson_> hes just here for comedy, and some FAQ's
#47 [00:31] <mitpatterson_> oh, that it was warned sorry,
#48 [00:32] <Jake_Bartley> explain?
#49 [00:32] <mitpatterson_> it is a addtive game, you won't get anything else done
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#51 [00:32] <xales> VoxelHead: shut up
#52 [00:32] <VoxelHead> fine
#53 [00:32] <mitpatterson_> no VoxelHead don't, come back
#54 [00:34] <mitpatterson_> xales, he, so my SSH session with my sever quit, but my game server is still running, and when i SSH back into it it just gives me the stanard ubuntu command promt, how can i get the "server log/monitor" back?
#55 [00:34] <xales> how did you launch it?
#56 [00:34] <mitpatterson_> from the terminal(i have no gui on the server unbuntu i installed)
#57 [00:34] <xales> I know that
#58 [00:34] <xales> I mean what did you do to launch it
#59 [00:34] <xales> :|
#60 [00:35] <mitpatterson_> it was like java -jar minecraft_server.jar or somthing
#61 [00:36] <mitpatterson_> ideas?
#62 [00:37] <xales> can you give me the entire command you used?
#63 [00:37] <mitpatterson_> one sec, someone in chat here gave it to me earlier, i'll have to pull my logs
#64 [00:40] <mitpatterson_> java -jar minecraft_server.jar
#65 [00:42] <xales> just that?
#66 [00:42] <mitpatterson_> yah, why....
#67 [00:42] <xales> because that's the wrong way to launch it anyway ._.
#68 [00:42] <mitpatterson_> oh
#69 [00:42] <mitpatterson_> i blame fogWraith : Mar 30 16:48:45 <fogWraith> java -jar minecraft_server.jar
#70 [00:42] <xales> anyway
#71 [00:42] <mitpatterson_> ban....?
#72 [00:42] <xales> if you disconnected from SSH, the server should have stopped if you left it that way
#73 [00:43] <xales> and that was something unrelated, don't worry about it (no, it wasn't fogWraith)
#74 [00:43] <mitpatterson_> k
#75 [00:43] <mitpatterson_> lol
#76 [00:43] <fogWraith> What?
#77 [00:43] <mitpatterson_> lmao
#78 [00:43] <mitpatterson_> i blame you
#79 [00:43] <fogWraith> For you starting the server? :P
#80 [00:43] <mitpatterson_> yes, xales says you told me wrong, lol
#81 [00:43] <xales> fogWraith: you forgot the memory arguments :P
#82 [00:44] <fogWraith> Bah, and screen too
#83 [00:44] <fogWraith> screen -S mysecretscreenthatalwaysruns
#84 [00:44] <mitpatterson_> ?????
#85 [00:44] <fogWraith> java -Xmx1G -Xms1G -jar minecraft_server.jar
#86 [00:44] <mitpatterson_> that limits to 1G of ram right?
#87 [00:45] <fogWraith> Better, xales ? :P
#88 [00:45] <xales> ??>> Siccan smp/servers
#89 [00:45] <fogWraith> Hrr, yus
#90 [00:45] <xales> yes
#91 [00:45] <xales> :P
#92 [00:45] <fogWraith> :|
#93 [00:46] <mitpatterson_> now since this linux server is only going to be for minecraft server, whats the easist way to set it to autostart the minecraft server when i turn on the Machine(virtual)
#94 [00:46] <fogWraith> Why would you want to shut it down? :P
#95 [00:46] <fogWraith> ForeverCraft
#96 [00:46] <dopeghoti> mitpatterson_: /etc/rc.local
#97 [00:47] <mitpatterson_> i mean if i ever have to turn off the physical machine its on, or if crashes
#98 [00:47] <dopeghoti> mitpatterson_: ↑
#99 [00:47] <mitpatterson_> dopeghoti, you have to tell me what these things mean, lol or what i'm supposed to do with it
#100 [00:47] <dopeghoti> /etc/rc.local is a script that the server runs every time it boots
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#102 [00:48] <dopeghoti> if you tell me what user Minecraft runs as, and what directory it runs from, I can give you a command to put in there that will fire up a Minecraft screen at each boot
#103 [00:48] <mitpatterson_> um.... the user name is "mitch" no clue the directory
#104 [00:48] <mitpatterson_> its just what ever you guys where giving me commands for ealier
#105 [00:48] <fogWraith> pwd outputs your current directory
#106 [00:49] <mitpatterson_> k, one sec, rebooting the VM(to clear out the minecraft server that was running)
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#108 [00:49] <mitpatterson_> the directory that it booted me to is /home/mitch
#109 [00:49] <dopeghoti> mitpatterson_: su - mitch -c "screen -S Minecraft-Server 'cd /home/mitch; java -Xmx1G -Xms1G -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#110 [00:50] <mitpatterson_> which i belive is where i ran 90% of the commands from
#111 [00:50] <dopeghoti> ↑put that in /etc/rc.local
#112 [00:50] <mitpatterson_> what does the "screen" do?
#113 [00:51] <dopeghoti> screen runs the Minecraft server in a detatchable terminal
#114 [00:51] <mitpatterson_> ah
#115 [00:51] <dopeghoti> (also, I made a small mistake; replace -S with -dmS)
#116 [00:51] <mitpatterson_> and that rc.local doesn't exsist
#117 [00:51] <dopeghoti> mitpatterson_: it's in /etc/
#118 [00:51] <mitpatterson_> yah, i'm in etc
#119 [00:51] <dopeghoti> to edit it, sudo nano /etc/rc.local
#120 [00:51] <mitpatterson_> oh
#121 [00:51] <dopeghoti> (or whatever editor you prefer)
#122 [00:52] <mitpatterson_> ok, it mentions "in order to enable or disable this script just change the execution bits" do i have to do something for that?
#123 [00:53] <mitpatterson_> and do i just put that lines you gave me anywhere before "exit 0"
#124 [00:54] <dopeghoti> Before
#125 [00:54] <mitpatterson_> yah
#126 [00:54] <dopeghoti> but after all the lines starting with '#'s
#127 [00:54] <mitpatterson_> and then how will i access this "detattable terminal"
#128 [00:55] <dopeghoti> with `screen -x`
#129 [00:55] <mitpatterson_> from the default ubuntu command line?
#130 [00:55] <dopeghoti> when logged in at 'mitch', yes
#131 [00:55] <mitpatterson_> k
#132 [00:55] <dopeghoti> as, rather
#133 [00:55] <dopeghoti> TODO: finish writing my intro/guide to screen
#134 [00:56] <mitpatterson_> lol
#135 [00:56] <dopeghoti> (I have one half-written)
#136 [00:56] <mitpatterson_> TODO: write my Comp assignment due in less than 12 hours, lol
#137 [00:56] <mitpatterson_> how do i set a static IP on ubuntu?
#138 [00:56] <mitpatterson_> it changed its IP on me
#139 [01:01] <mitpatterson_> that script must not have worked(yes i changed that one "-S") i rebooted the VM and i can't connect to it....
#140 [01:01] <mitpatterson_> and "screen -x" says "the program 'screen' is currently not instlaled........"
#141 [01:02] <dopeghoti> well, that would explain it
#142 [01:02] <dopeghoti> sudo apt-get install screen
#143 [01:02] <dopeghoti> then sudo /etc/rc.local
#144 [01:03] <mitpatterson_> so since screen wasn't installed that prevented the rc.local from running correctly/fully?
#145 [01:03] <dopeghoti> well, it ran but didn't do anything
#146 [01:03] <mitpatterson_> -su: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
#147 [01:03] <mitpatterson_> -su: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
#148 [01:03] <dopeghoti> that's.. odd
#149 [01:04] <dopeghoti> could you pastebin that file? I'll revise it and give you an updated
#150 [01:04] <dopeghoti> …version
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#152 [01:04] <mitpatterson_> just want all 15 lines or what ever
#153 [01:04] <dopeghoti> just the screen line
#154 [01:05] <mitpatterson_> http://pastebin.com/gEFaEWns
#155 [01:06] <mitpatterson_> think you missed the ' on "cd /home/mitch
#156 [01:06] <mitpatterson_> you only have 1 in there, it wants 2, not sure where the other one goes...
#157 [01:06] <dopeghoti> http://pastebin.com/LXVhvuvS
#158 [01:06] <dopeghoti> there you go
#159 [01:08] <mitpatterson_> ok, then i did "sudo /etc/rc.local "
#160 [01:08] <mitpatterson_> got no feedback from it
#161 [01:09] <dopeghoti> perfect
#162 [01:09] <mitpatterson_> but screen-x says "there is no screen to be attached"
#163 [01:09] <mitpatterson_> and i can't connect
#164 [01:09] <dopeghoti> now if you `scren -ls`, it should tell you you have one screen running
#165 [01:09] <mitpatterson_> screen -ls
#166 [01:09] <dopeghoti> on your terminal, not in IRC (:
#167 [01:09] <mitpatterson_> yah
#168 [01:09] <mitpatterson_> mitch@ubuntu:~$ screen -ls
#169 [01:09] <mitpatterson_> No Sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-mitch.
#170 [01:09] <mitpatterson_> um.....
#171 [01:09] <dopeghoti> hmm
#172 [01:10] <mitpatterson_> too fast pastings?
#173 [01:10] <mitpatterson_> it didn't like that?
#174 [01:10] <dopeghoti> yes (:
#175 [01:10] <mitpatterson_> lol
#176 [01:10] <dopeghoti> edit rc.local once more
#177 [01:10] <mitpatterson_> at least it removed it
#178 [01:10] <mitpatterson_> what am i editing?
#179 [01:10] <dopeghoti> after -Xms1G, put a space, then -jar minecraft.jar nogui
#180 [01:10] <dopeghoti> (before the '"
#181 [01:10] <dopeghoti> )
#182 [01:11] <mitpatterson_> yah, that might help, didn't hink about that, lol
#183 [01:11] <dopeghoti> details (:
#184 [01:11] <mitpatterson_> it mjust have gotten cut off before
#185 [01:12] <mitpatterson_> hmmm, same thing as last time basically( changed what you told me to -jar minecraft_server.jar no gui )
#186 [01:13] <dopeghoti> no space between 'no' and 'gui'
#187 [01:13] <dopeghoti> 'nogui', not 'no gui'
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#189 [01:13] <mitpatterson_> yah, its not space in what i have, i just typed it wrong
#190 [01:13] <dopeghoti> Would you mind letting me SSH in and take a look at it myself?
#191 [01:14] <dopeghoti> (you would have to either give me your password, or make an account for me)
#192 [01:14] <mitpatterson_> i guess not, not sure if my router will let the connection though
#193 [01:14] <dopeghoti> ah
#194 [01:14] <mitpatterson_> let me go open the port
#195 [01:14] <dopeghoti> is this a VM? we could do TeamViewer
#196 [01:14] <mitpatterson_> yah its a VM, but no gui
#197 [01:15] <dopeghoti> that's fine
#198 [01:15] <dopeghoti> if it's running in Virtualbox or whatever, teamviewer will work just fine
#199 [01:15] <mitpatterson_> whats the port for SSH? i can open it in the router real quick 22 right?
#200 [01:15] <dopeghoti> 22, yeah
#201 [01:15] <dopeghoti> and it'll have to be forwarded to the VM
#202 [01:15] <mitpatterson_> ok, see if you can SSH into my IP, port 22 is forwared to the internal IP of the server
#203 [01:16] <dopeghoti> mitpatterson_: I'll need you to PM me your password
#204 [01:16] <mitpatterson_> no passwords to get the SSH, i just wnat to see if you can even get that far
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#206 [01:16] <dopeghoti> ah, ok
#207 [01:16] <mitpatterson_> it will ask for user name, and the password after the SSH hits
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#209 [01:16] <dopeghoti> yep, SSH connencts
#210 [01:20] * VoxelHead is away: gaming
#210 [01:20] <mitpatterson_> lol, bots can't game
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#212 [01:26] <AG_Scott> This is a bit random, but if you're using outside networking on a VM, it's easier (and imo better) to just use bridged networking.
#213 [01:27] <mitpatterson> whos that in reference to AG_Clinton
#214 [01:27] <mitpatterson> err scott
#215 [01:27] <mitpatterson> darn auto complete
#216 [01:28] <AG_Scott> whoever is using a VM and NAT
#217 [01:29] <mitpatterson> i have it bridged now
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#219 [01:37] <dopeghoti> re
#220 [01:37] <mitpatterson> my router/xhcat seems to insist on disconnecting me when ever i change tiny settings
#221 [01:39] <dopeghoti> that's because most cheap routers do a complete reboot to implement settings changes
#222 [01:39] <mitpatterson> yah, but this isn't a cheap router, lol
#223 [01:39] <dopeghoti> so $MANUFACTURER would have you believe
#224 [01:39] <mitpatterson> and it isn't enought of a disconnect of the internet for windows to notice
#225 [01:40] <mitpatterson> its a netgear router
#226 [01:40] <mitpatterson> it was actually DESIGNED to run DDWRT if wanted
#227 [01:41] <mitpatterson> granted, i'm not running that becuase the FCC has special firmware on this one
#228 [01:42] <dopeghoti> o.O
#229 [01:43] <mitpatterson> one of the things i agree'd to, which i think installing DDWRT would violated: "Not attempt to reverse engineer or alter the unit."
#230 [01:45] <dopeghoti> that depends on whether 'unit' means software, firmware, hardware, or some combination of the three
#231 [01:45] <mitpatterson> yah, i would guess combo
#232 [01:47] <mitpatterson> hmm, my server is refusing my SSH request now
#233 [01:48] <dopeghoti> the server, or the router? :)
#234 [01:48] <mitpatterson> the server
#235 [01:48] <dopeghoti> are you sure it has the same IP still?
#236 [01:48] <mitpatterson> yah, i did "ifconfig"(from the VM "Console")
#237 [01:48] <mitpatterson> plus i can connect to minecraft on it
#238 [01:49] <AG_Scott> When you used bridged, it grabbed a new LAN IP right? :D
#239 [01:49] <mitpatterson> hmmm, a quick reboot it works again
#240 [01:49] <mitpatterson> AG_Scott, no, i set up a DHCP Reservation on the router for it
#241 [01:49] <AG_Scott> but it got a regular IP.
#242 [01:50] <mitpatterson> no, its getting the one i reserved
#243 [01:50] <AG_Scott> I didn't even know that virtualbox could do it until a few months ago.
#244 [01:50] <AG_Scott> But it got a regular IP on the network like any other device would.
#245 [01:50] <mitpatterson> yah, the box right now has 2 ip's .14 and .15 the .15 is the physical box(server 2008) and .14 is the ubuntu VM
#246 [01:51] <mitpatterson> theose are both reserved on the Router based on the Mac Address's
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#248 [01:52] <joely> Haii
#249 [01:53] <mitpatterson> anyways i gotta go, i'ts almost 2 AM i should have went to bed like 2 hours ago
#250 [01:55] <joely> I'm having Mac issues, can anyone help?
#251 [01:55] <dopeghoti> joely: only if you are more specific
#252 [01:55] <xales> joely: Just say what the problem is, and if someone can help, they will
#253 [01:55] <joely> My computer often crashes when I quite the new MC beta client
#254 [01:55] <joely> quit*(close)
#255 [01:56] <xales> What version of OS X?
#256 [01:56] <dopeghoti> what sort of crash?
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#258 [02:01] <joely> Uhm.
#259 [02:01] <joely> Snow leaopard I think, and it freezes my computer
#260 [02:01] <xales> Did you get the client from minecraft.net?
#261 [02:01] <joely> Yeah
#262 [02:02] <xales> Did you install any mods?
#263 [02:02] <dopeghoti> Do you have all software updates?
#264 [02:02] <joely> Yup
#265 [02:02] <joely> No mods
#266 [02:03] <dopeghoti> ?? mac/reinst
#267 [02:03] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#268 [02:03] <joely> No textures, or anythin'
#269 [02:03] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#270 [02:03] <joely> Bin.. But all my textures and stuff are in there..
#271 [02:03] <dopeghoti> no, textures are elsewhere
#272 [02:03] <dopeghoti> as are world files
#273 [02:04] <joely> ot saves, Texture packs, terrain files and stuff
#274 [02:04] <joely> not*
#275 [02:04] <dopeghoti> saves and textures are not in .bin
#276 [02:04] <dopeghoti> er, .minecraft/bin
#277 [02:05] <joely> My textures are in bin..
#278 [02:05] <joely> in minecraft.jar
#279 [02:05] <xales> Then that is a mod
#280 [02:05] <xales> and probably why it's crashing
#281 [02:05] <dopeghoti> indeed
#282 [02:06] <joely> Where else do I put my terrain.png files?
#283 [02:07] <xales> Try running it without that
#284 [02:07] <dopeghoti> there is a separate directory, texturepacks, where a .zip file containing a complete texture pack should go
#285 [02:07] <xales> see if it still crashes.
#286 [02:07] <joely> Ugh, I've got like 10 files in there to sort :/
#287 [02:07] <xales> dopeghoti: can you remove the 'see (.+)' thing? It's annoying and has no real use |:
#288 [02:08] <dopeghoti> if your texture packs involve editing the .jar file, they are not compatible with the newer version of Minecraft
#289 [02:08] <dopeghoti> xales: didn't you ask for that alias?
#290 [02:08] <dopeghoti> or was that Kealper?
#291 [02:08] <xales> I didn't, and I've never used or seen it used
#292 [02:08] <xales> |:
#293 [02:08] <dopeghoti> vox, give kealper the sad news.
#294 [02:09] <joely> When I try to use .zip files in the texturepack folder it doesn't work..
#295 [02:09] <xales> What version does Minecraft say in the top left hand corner?
#296 [02:10] <joely> 1.3_01
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#298 [02:11] <xales> Then you aren't using the .zip format correctly. Nevertheless, try running Minecraft without any modifications to the .jar files
#299 [02:11] <joely> I've done that
#300 [02:11] <joely> It still freezes
#301 [02:12] <xales> In the launcher
#302 [02:12] <xales> click options->Force Update
#303 [02:12] <xales> then run the game again
#304 [02:13] <joely> force update?
#305 [02:13] <xales> Yes
#306 [02:13] <xales> In the launcher options, not the game itself
#307 [02:13] <joely> Brb if my comp crashes..
#308 [02:13] <dopeghoti> did you try try deleting the bin folder?
#309 [02:14] <joely> Nope, too much in it.
#310 [02:16] <xales> Then move it somewhere else and delete the one in the 'minecraft' folder
#311 [02:16] <joely> Will do :D
#312 [02:17] <dopeghoti> 'too much in it' means you have mods that are likely causes of the crash
#313 [02:18] <joely> Do mods include edits I did to .terrain and mob files?
#314 [02:19] <dopeghoti> yes.
#315 [02:19] <dopeghoti> anything involving tinkering in the .jar files
#316 [02:20] <xales> mods = any modification to the game
#317 [02:20] <dopeghoti> ?? vanilla
#318 [02:20] <VoxelHead> vanilla: vanilla (adj.): Bland; original; with no garnish. In the context of Minecraft, a server or client with no mods, skins, texture packs, or other customizations.
#319 [02:20] <joely> oooh, I thought they were pre-set downloads, only
#320 [02:20] <dopeghoti> ↑ the only way to test.
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#330 [03:08] <GLaDOS> hey, xales
#331 [03:08] <xales> wat
#332 [03:08] <GLaDOS> why did you ban me from #minecraftops
#333 [03:08] <xales> gtfo
#334 [03:08] <GLaDOS> :<
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#457 [03:32] <blaphmat> Hello
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#459 [03:32] <xales> ._.
#460 [03:36] <aetherian> ooh
#461 [03:37] <aetherian> I missed a split
#462 [03:37] <xales> more than one, I hear
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#464 [03:38] <KisukeUrahara> ?
#465 [03:38] <Espeon> VoxelHead, you awake
#466 [03:38] <xales> wow
#467 [03:39] <xales> that person was just plain stupid
#468 [03:39] <Espeon> Which one?
#469 [03:39] <xales> KisukeUrahara/blaphmat
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#475 [04:05] <aetherian> toodaloo
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#480 [04:53] <GLaDOS> inb4 Aureus
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#482 [04:54] <Aureus> Can someone tell me where i can get help for my server? :)
#483 [04:54] * GLaDOS slaps Aureus
#483 [04:54] <GLaDOS> why u derp
#484 [04:54] <Aureus> just need people. XD
#485 [04:55] <GLaDOS> >#minecrafthelp
#486 [04:55] <GLaDOS> u r derp ( ｡ ヮﾟ)
#487 [04:55] <Aureus> isn't this #minecrafthelp already? XD
#488 [04:55] <GLaDOS> ..
#489 [04:56] <GLaDOS> Iguana: we have a level of stupidity high enough for kicking
#490 [04:56] <GLaDOS> and it's NOT me
#491 [04:56] <GLaDOS> aw, it left
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#497 [05:36] <OODavo_> !check gigahard.mine.nu
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#501 [06:00] <beannaich> hi
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#505 [06:23] <Noc> hi
#506 [06:23] <beannaich> sup
#507 [06:25] <Noc> ive played minecraft in browser and would like to play further on that world on the downloaded version so I would like to ask if there is any chance for doing that? like move the files were browser saves them if it ssaves them any place on my pc
#508 [06:26] <beannaich> if it does you should be able to, but idk if it does
#509 [06:26] <lemon-rev> if you download the client and log into it, it shoudl just bring that world up
#510 [06:28] <Noc> well the problem is that i got 2 pc's and the download version doesnt work on the one where i started it (in browser) and i want to continue in the downloaded one on other pc :s
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#512 [06:29] <lemon-rev> ok, so grab your usb find the.minecraft folder and copy the save folder to the computer you wish to continue playing the map providing you copy it to the right place :P
#513 [06:29] <beannaich> i have an odd bug right now, materials don't seem to have any texture when you go to pick them up
#514 [06:30] <beannaich> and also no texture in the mini-inventory
#515 [06:30] <lemon-rev> hum
#516 [06:30] <lemon-rev> so you just have blocks showing ?
#517 [06:30] <beannaich> they are rendered weird, hold on
#518 [06:30] <lemon-rev> do a force update, and hopefully it will fix it
#519 [06:30] <beannaich> http://img859.imageshack.us/i/minecrafts.png/
#520 [06:31] <beannaich> looks like that
#521 [06:31] <beannaich> i've done 2 force updates :S
#522 [06:31] <Noc> any advice where the .minecraft folder is placed? (using firefox)
#523 [06:31] <beannaich> start -> run -> %APPDATA%
#524 [06:32] <lemon-rev> so your texture directory is scrap, del it, and force update,
#525 [06:32] <Noc> thx beannaich <3
#526 [06:32] <beannaich> let me try that rev
#527 [06:33] <beannaich> .minecraft/texturepacks?
#528 [06:33] <lemon-rev> yup
#529 [06:33] <lemon-rev> hm
#530 [06:33] <lemon-rev> hangon
#531 [06:33] <beannaich> lol, nothing in there
#532 [06:33] <lemon-rev> that can go
#533 [06:33] <lemon-rev> yes but
#534 [06:33] <lemon-rev> there should be textures
#535 [06:33] <beannaich> yeah, it's empty
#536 [06:34] <lemon-rev> ok, just kill bin directory and keep everything else
#537 [06:35] <lemon-rev> and force update on next login
#538 [06:35] <beannaich> i'll give it a shot
#539 [06:35] <lemon-rev> if that doesnt help then you might need to reinstall java
#540 [06:35] <beannaich> it's been doing this since a long time ago as well
#541 [06:36] <beannaich> never been able to play properly
#542 [06:36] <lemon-rev> never since day one ?
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#544 [06:39] <beannaich_> computer froze mate lol
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#551 [06:51] <Thoatt|Sleep> mitpatterson:
#552 [06:51] <Thoatt|Sleep> tyou on?
#553 [06:51] <Thoatt|Sleep> -t
#554 [06:51] <Thoatt|Sleep> nvm lol.. going to bed.
#555 [06:51] <Thoatt|Sleep> gnight all
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#561 [07:21] <Amgero> How do i make a spawner that spawns monterss?
#562 [07:21] <peru> kannst du nicht
#563 [07:22] <peru> only with mcedit i think
#564 [07:23] <Amgero> okies... was wondering as i was sitting and thinking of rebuilding a game i once played in minecraft... and it would be nice to have some monsters inthere... hehe
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#575 [08:15] <Cobalt90> Hello
#576 [08:16] <Leoon5k> Anyone else experienced after you write in your login info, the game goes very very slowly in the main menu? Like the animation of the 'Minecraft' logo ?
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#578 [08:18] <Cobalt90> I cant join a multiplayer server in browser i only see a black window and not minecraft can someone help meß
#579 [08:18] <LoRDTrevor> classic or beta?
#580 [08:18] <Cobalt90> classic
#581 [08:19] <LoRDTrevor> let me check the FAQ
#582 [08:19] <LoRDTrevor> see index
#583 [08:19] <LoRDTrevor> the bots off -_-
#584 [08:19] <LoRDTrevor> try reinstalling but i have no idea how to go about that
#585 [08:20] <Cobalt90> where is my world saved , for a backup
#586 [08:21] <LoRDTrevor> to reinstall you have to know were your saves are. And I know almost nothing about classic.
#587 [08:21] <LoRDTrevor> do you know how to get to %appdata% ?
#588 [08:21] <Cobalt90> yes
#589 [08:22] <LoRDTrevor> check there if you find a minecraft folder there should be a saves folder in it
#590 [08:22] <Cobalt90> i know where my minecraft is but not where i can find my world ^^
#591 [08:23] <Cobalt90> ok found it i try reinstall
#592 [08:23] <LoRDTrevor> great
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#595 [08:26] <Cobalt90> don't help
#596 [08:27] <LoRDTrevor> ok does signle player work?
#597 [08:27] <LoRDTrevor> ok i just got to school(on a phone) gtg sorry i couldnt help.
#598 [08:27] <Cobalt90> i still cant join a multiplayer classic brower server
#599 [08:28] <Cobalt90> i can play without browser, without problems
#600 [08:28] <Cobalt90> HELLO
#601 [08:29] <Cobalt90> IS ANY ONE THERE
#602 [08:29] <Leestons> Do you get any messages
#603 [08:29] <Leestons> and patience is a virtue
#604 [08:29] <Leestons> You can't just say "it doesn't work" without giving us any detaisl
#605 [08:29] <Cobalt90> I need help i cant join a multyplayer server in browser
#606 [08:29] <Leestons> details
#607 [08:30] <Leestons> Do you know if anyone else can join it?
#608 [08:30] <Cobalt90> i dont know
#609 [08:30] <Cobalt90> play it alone at home
#610 [08:31] <Leestons> and you don't get any error messages about it?
#611 [08:31] <Cobalt90> can you join :Opticraft Dev server in browser ?
#612 [08:31] <Cobalt90> Opticraft Dev server
#613 [08:31] <Cobalt90> no i klick on a server in the list
#614 [08:31] <Leestons> one sec and i'll try
#615 [08:32] <Cobalt90> it like normal, but the game is only black
#616 [08:32] <Cobalt90> for one second minecraft logo comes and then only darkness
#617 [08:33] <Leestons> I can't join either
#618 [08:33] <Leestons> wait I can
#619 [08:33] <Cobalt90> under the minecraft logo can i reag "switch applet" but not more
#620 [08:34] <Leestons> You may want to update Java
#621 [08:34] <Cobalt90> try : Team9000 Public (team9000.net)
#622 [08:34] <Cobalt90> i try to update java but donr help
#623 [08:35] <Leestons> That's odd
#624 [08:36] <Leestons> team9000 works
#625 [08:36] <Cobalt90> by me only black
#626 [08:36] <Leestons> try waiting a few seconds
#627 [08:36] <Leestons> or minutes
#628 [08:36] <Leestons> I always start with a black screen
#629 [08:37] <Cobalt90> i wait since we begin to caht
#630 [08:37] <Cobalt90> i know try reinstall java so i must close my browser
#631 [08:37] <Cobalt90> i come back in a few minutes
#632 [08:38] <Cobalt90> i now try^^, i'm german sorry english is bad
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#634 [08:38] <Leestons> Don't worry about it :)
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#641 [09:28] <oldtopmanserver> !paid CeriQ
#642 [09:28] * oldtopmanserver is thinking
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#648 [10:13] <GuidoSP> How can I make the World Generate a Block using Mod Loader ??
#649 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't tell you, we don't really provide support for mods here. If I had to guess, you'll need to hook into how minecraft generates its maps.
#650 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Try #risucraft - They may be able to help you better there
#651 [10:15] <GuidoSP> Thanks
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#653 [10:26] <bok-aholic> Does anyone know when the update is coming out today?
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#655 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> When it's done.
#656 [10:32] <BarryCarlyon> GreyVulpine: if a server has 16gb of ram, should I change the command to call minecraft or leave it set to 1gb in that command line?
#657 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> That's up to you. Are you planning on running more than say, 10 players at once?
#658 [10:34] <BarryCarlyon> Not sure at this time :-P
#659 [10:34] <BarryCarlyon> I've just been bought in to be the server tech/overal admin.
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#661 [10:34] <BarryCarlyon> The command just sets the maximum ram that minecraft/java can use right?
#662 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Maximum heap memory that it uses, yes.
#663 [10:35] <BarryCarlyon> Lovely thanks :-D
#664 [10:35] <BarryCarlyon> Now back to the day job :-P
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#667 [10:49] <D3l1n> Man
#668 [10:49] <D3l1n> minecraft just wont WORK!
#669 [10:49] <D3l1n> like, it loads fine
#670 [10:49] <D3l1n> But, when i login, it crashes!
#671 [10:50] <D3l1n> somone please help
#672 [10:51] <D3l1n> :(
#673 [10:51] <D3l1n> can anyone help me?
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#675 [10:52] <D3l1n> Hello onix
#676 [10:55] <onix> hello
#677 [10:55] <onix> I could use some help
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#679 [10:59] <xolotl> onix: You'll have better luck if you just state your problem
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#683 [11:02] <Lordenzo> Hey, i could use some help
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#685 [11:10] <BarryCarlyon> Don't ask to ask just ask.
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#696 [12:07] <Reto> hello
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#698 [12:10] <Morrolan> Update is out, prepare for a flood of people having issues.
#699 [12:12] <izd> updating here
#700 [12:12] <izd> 1.4!
#701 [12:13] <Morrolan> Ok, just a little remember: Do not update if you want to play SMP in the next few days.
#702 [12:14] <lukegb> Bukkit updating has begun.
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#707 [12:24] <mib_7f6cve> hi i cant play on my server anymore becus its says outdated server
#708 [12:25] <mib_7f6cve> hi i cant play on my server anymore becus its says outdated server
#709 [12:25] <mib_7f6cve> ??
#710 [12:25] <mib_7f6cve> what should i do
#711 [12:26] <Morrolan> Mib: Redownload the server software from minecraft.net
#712 [12:26] <Morrolan> It's because of the update which got released some minutes ago.
#713 [12:26] <mib_7f6cve> ok
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#716 [12:28] <VoiceofTreason> Hi guys, kidda fkd up and was needing an answer to a prob easy question...
#717 [12:28] <VoiceofTreason> How can I return to 1.3 until things update to 1.4?
#718 [12:28] <VoiceofTreason> I just hit yes on upgrade not thinking about it
#719 [12:29] <Morrolan> There is no legal way to do so, unless you have a backup somewhere.
#720 [12:29] <Morrolan> You could look for downloads in the internet, but we can't provide you support with that, sorry.
#721 [12:29] <izd> did the same thing not happen when 1.3 came out treason?
#722 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. 1.4 is out?
#723 [12:30] <Martinsen-> You should add a cmd to minecraft server, so they can update to new version automaticly
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#725 [12:30] <Zemedelphos> Yes
#726 [12:30] <Zemedelphos> I just got a Wolf
#727 [12:30] <Zemedelphos> Named him Repede
#728 [12:30] <Zemedelphos> We're going play.
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#730 [12:31] <Morrolan> Oh GreyVulpine, where is the download link to the server software in that FAQ bot again?
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#732 [12:32] <It> !help
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#734 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> !server
#735 [12:33] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Ah, thanks. :)
#736 [12:33] <VoiceofTreason> I havent played MC in quite awhile, not sure version number...yes 1.4 is out
#737 [12:33] <Morrolan> I guess we'll need it a lot today. ^^
#738 [12:33] <VoiceofTreason> So you cant legally do it..sucks :p
#739 [12:33] <It> hello voxelhead
#740 [12:33] <cliff101> can I pay minecraft using credit card?
#741 [12:33] <VoxelHead> howdy it
#742 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> cliff101 - Yes
#743 [12:34] <Morrolan> Cliff101: Either directly or via PayPal.
#744 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, change log here for 1.4
#745 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#746 [12:34] <Martinsen-> is craftbukkit.jar updated too ?
#747 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Usually not
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#749 [12:35] <Morrolan> Martinsen. Not yet.
#750 [12:35] <Martinsen-> :(
#751 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> It generally takes a few days
#752 [12:35] <Morrolan> They already started working though. ETA ATLEAST some hours.
#753 [12:35] <Martinsen-> Okey
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#758 [12:43] <VoiceofTreason> Is the bukkit irc not #bukkit?
#759 [12:43] <cliff101> ok when going minecraft.net
#760 [12:43] <Morrolan> It is.
#761 [12:43] <cliff101> it says page error
#762 [12:43] <cliff101> im being block or something
#763 [12:43] <Morrolan> Cliff101: It might be overloaded at the moment.
#764 [12:43] <cliff101> u sure
#765 [12:43] <cliff101> I have actually tried it last time
#766 [12:43] <cliff101> its the same
#767 [12:43] <Morrolan> I guess so. Happens with nearly every update. Lemme check.
#768 [12:44] <cliff101> The connection has timed out
#769 [12:44] <Martinsen-> where is the .minecraft folder located in windows ?
#770 [12:44] <Morrolan> %appdata%\.minecraft
#771 [12:44] <cliff101> hmmm
#772 [12:44] <Martinsen-> thanks :)
#773 [12:45] <Morrolan> (Which is C:\Users\accountname\AppData\Roaming)
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#775 [12:45] <cliff101> yes
#776 [12:45] <Morrolan> cliff101: It's working for me though. :/
#777 [12:45] <cliff101> C:\Users\Karl\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
#778 [12:45] <cliff101> i think i should reinstall
#779 [12:45] <cliff101> cool in my other computer it works
#780 [12:46] <cliff101> lol
#781 [12:46] <cliff101> weird
#782 [12:46] <Morrolan> Ok. ^^
#783 [12:47] <It> %appdata% is a windows environment variable. if you are missing it, that is bad.
#784 [12:47] <It> could cause all sorts of problems from not being there
#785 [12:47] <cliff101> question
#786 [12:47] <cliff101> if my account in minecraft is hello
#787 [12:47] <cliff101> can i change my ingame nick account?
#788 [12:48] <It> nope
#789 [12:48] <cliff101> ohh
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#791 [12:48] <cliff101> ok thanks
#792 [12:48] <cliff101> so i should register
#793 [12:48] <Morrolan> With a name which is not "penis" or so, yes. :D
#794 [12:48] <It> you should register with the account name you want to have in game
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#796 [12:49] <cliff101> so the account u register in minecraft website
#797 [12:49] <cliff101> that will be use as ingame nick right?
#798 [12:49] <Morrolan> Yes.
#799 [12:49] <Sinnersaix> yep
#800 [12:49] <cliff101> damn
#801 [12:49] <cliff101> the taken i want is taken
#802 [12:49] <cliff101> the account
#803 [12:49] <cliff101> iwant is taken
#804 [12:49] <Sinnersaix> be more crativ with your name
#805 [12:50] <cliff101> :(
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#808 [12:56] <cliff101> how can i disable auto update
#809 [12:57] <It> use the new client
#810 [12:57] <cliff101> idont want to update to version 1.4 yet
#811 [12:57] <It> it will ask if you want to update
#812 [12:57] <Morrolan> Just press "no" when asked about updating. (Only works with the new launcher)
#813 [12:57] <cliff101> ok
#814 [12:57] <It> you should also make a copy of %appdata%\.minecraft so you can restore to it in case you click yes by accident
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#817 [12:58] <puregrave> hello
#818 [12:58] <puregrave> does
#819 [12:58] <mr_boo> hey what do the newest patch do
#820 [12:58] <puregrave> anybody know how to make cookies?
#821 [12:58] <Zemedelphos> Wolves, cookies, cocoa beans
#822 [12:58] <puregrave> they added cookies, tameable wolves and cocoa beans
#823 [12:58] <xolotl> mr_boo: http://lmmcwtfy.com/?n=1&q=version+history
#824 [12:59] <puregrave> hold shift on ladder you wont keep going
#825 [12:59] <mr_boo> how do i find wolves
#826 [13:00] <xolotl> mr_boo: They spawn in Taiga and Forests, apparently
#827 [13:00] <xolotl> mr_boo: (and are pretty rare, so it may take awhile)
#828 [13:00] <bokaholic> So, how do you update a server to make it not give an error when logging on?
#829 [13:00] <puregrave> it should
#830 [13:00] <puregrave> automatically update
#831 [13:00] <puregrave> but
#832 [13:00] <bokaholic> Outdated Server, it tells me.
#833 [13:00] <xolotl> No, servers do not automatically update
#834 [13:01] <puregrave> does anyone know hoiw to make said cookies?
#835 [13:01] <puregrave> oh, ok
#836 [13:01] <xolotl> bokaholic: You'll have to download the new server Jar and start using that
#837 [13:01] <bokaholic> Just the jar?
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#839 [13:01] <mr_boo> how to i make wolves tamed
#840 [13:01] <xolotl> bokaholic: Though note that if you use any mods, you'll have to either do without, or wait for the mods to update
#841 [13:01] <Frunten> Hello!
#842 [13:01] <bokaholic> mr_boo: A bone.
#843 [13:01] <puregrave> mmr boo
#844 [13:01] <It> hi frunten
#845 [13:01] <puregrave> please
#846 [13:01] <puregrave> read the wiki
#847 [13:01] <cliff101> can I use miunecraft client 1.4 to 1.3 server?
#848 [13:01] <bokaholic> I do not use mods, as far as I know. :)
#849 [13:01] <It> cliff101 probably not
#850 [13:02] <bokaholic> cliff101: I don't think so. D:
#851 [13:02] <cliff101> crap
#852 [13:02] <It> just wait for the servers to update
#853 [13:02] <cliff101> it auto updates
#854 [13:02] <Frunten> I need help, i run my own server, and i wonder how i export an 1.3 map to 1.4? :)
#855 [13:02] <cliff101> automatically to 1.4
#856 [13:02] <It> frunten, you just use the same map
#857 [13:02] <Morrolan> Frunten: Copy the world folder from your old server to your new.
#858 [13:02] <xolotl> cliff101: If it auto-updated without asking you Yes/No then you're using the old launcher. Get the new one and it'll let you stay on the old version
#859 [13:02] <Frunten> Thx :)
#860 [13:02] <puregrave> Who knows how to make cookies?
#861 [13:02] <bokaholic> :I
#862 [13:02] <Frunten> Need cocoa beans
#863 [13:02] <xolotl> Frunten: As It mentioned, there's no need to export; just replace the jar and restart the process
#864 [13:02] <Morrolan> Noone yet I guess.
#865 [13:03] <puregrave> mm, I see
#866 [13:03] <PatSter21> w = wheat c = cocoa
#867 [13:03] <PatSter21> w c w
#868 [13:03] <puregrave> x
#869 [13:03] <puregrave> d\
#870 [13:03] <puregrave> ahh ok
#871 [13:03] <cliff101> k
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#873 [13:03] <Frunten> What is the hex code for cocao :D Mwahahah!
#874 [13:03] <Frunten> ?
#875 [13:03] <VoxelHead> AndrewPH: Debate.. now! OR SUFFER!
#876 [13:04] <xolotl> Frunten: http://lmmcwtfy.com/?q=data+values
#877 [13:04] <Frunten> HAha nice :)
#878 [13:05] <VoxelHead> prepare to meet your horrible doom
#879 [13:05] <bokaholic> Ahha. Jar file worked perfectly.
#880 [13:05] <puregrave> thank you
#881 [13:05] <cliff101> hi here can i get 1.3 launcher?
#882 [13:05] <cliff101> where
#883 [13:05] <xolotl> cliff101: You get the launcher at the download page at minecraft.net
#884 [13:05] <It> voxelhead, what are you going on about
#885 [13:06] <It> cliff... you cant.
#886 [13:06] <cliff101> yes i did
#887 [13:06] <cliff101> but it was version 1.4
#888 [13:06] <It> you should've backed up the folder first
#889 [13:06] <xolotl> cliff101: The launcher is independant of the version
#890 [13:06] <It> I did tell you to do that
#891 [13:06] <xolotl> cliff101: What you want is the 1.3 client. :)
#892 [13:06] <cliff101> :(
#893 [13:06] <Frunten> Piratebay got the answer!
#894 [13:07] <Frunten> As long as you bought the game, it isn't illegal to download from piratebay
#895 [13:07] <cliff101> yeah piratebay
#896 [13:07] <cliff101> then it got trojan
#897 [13:07] <cliff101> stealer
#898 [13:08] <Dpunkt2> Hello, i have a Problem with Redstone: I have a WoodenPresurePlate next to a StonePP and I would like to seperate the sinals below them:
#899 [13:08] <xolotl> Frunten: That may or may not be true (I expect not, actually, though it'd depend on your local laws of course), but regardless talk about such things is verboten here
#900 [13:08] <VoxelHead> WHY! WHY my piggy, WHY?? I loved you my piggy... I loved you.
#901 [13:08] <Dpunkt2> __
#902 [13:08] <Dpunkt2> any idea?
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#904 [13:09] <It> did you know you can convince vox to kick people
#905 [13:09] <It> (vox is a bot, in case you didn't notice)
#906 [13:09] <VoxelHead> no I'm not
#907 [13:09] <It> heh
#908 [13:09] <falopi> I run a vanilla server for my friends and I, is there a 1.4 sever client?
#909 [13:09] <VoxelHead> =D
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#911 [13:09] <bokaholic> Hmm.. 1.4 server seems to tell me I need more RAM now.. O.o;
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#913 [13:10] <It> are you running it with the exe or the jar
#914 [13:10] <Frunten> So there is a new 1.4 serv client?
#915 [13:10] <falopi> exe
#916 [13:10] <It> well then
#917 [13:10] <falopi> should i get the jar?
#918 [13:10] <bokaholic> 4gigs isn't enough RAM, huh? ;-; Makes me a sad lady.
#919 [13:10] <It> the exe and the jar are secretly both jars
#920 [13:10] <It> and you can invoke java to run by specifying the exe as the jar
#921 [13:11] <Sinnersaix> 1.4?
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#923 [13:11] <It> so you would need to create a batch file or a shortcut that runs the program with java while specifying a different memory limit
#924 [13:11] <It> 4g is fine, but java artificially restricts itself
#925 [13:11] <falopi> where do i download server 1.4?
#926 [13:11] <TorchDragon> test
#927 [13:12] <It> !server
#928 [13:12] <bokaholic> It: How do I do that by chance? :}
#929 [13:12] <TorchDragon> Beds resetting spawn points are not working for me. Do you need to start a new map in order to get the new functionality to work or is there something I'm missing?
#930 [13:12] <It> engaging pm
#931 [13:12] <bokaholic> :D
#932 [13:12] <VoxelHead> :-)
#933 [13:12] <falopi> awesome
#934 [13:13] <Sinnersaix> i want to mine !!!!!
#935 [13:13] <TorchDragon> I've tried my own crafted bed, a bed from a friend, though I haven't died to anything but environmental damage, one would think it doesn't matter...
#936 [13:13] <xolotl> TorchDragon: It *should* work, though w/ Mojang it's usually useful to wait for an _01 or _02 bugfix release. :)
#937 [13:13] <falopi> did they fix any of the Smp bugs?
#938 [13:13] <xolotl> TorchDragon: At any rate, you shouldn't need a new map to do it
#939 [13:13] <TorchDragon> Or maybe its use during the day?
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#941 [13:14] <TorchDragon> Nope...
#942 [13:14] <TorchDragon> You can only sleep at night...
#943 [13:14] <TorchDragon> Hmmm.
#944 [13:14] <falopi> yay, my buddies stopped yelling the server is back up lol
#945 [13:15] <TorchDragon> Well, that's disheartening. I was really looking forward to that feature.
#946 [13:15] <It> you know what's really funny?
#947 [13:15] <It> stand on top of the bed while you get into it
#948 [13:16] <It> other people will lol (but you won't see anything)
#949 [13:16] <It> therefore, best done with a group of friends
#950 [13:17] <falopi> on my server i was in bed
#951 [13:17] <falopi> and teleported my friend to me
#952 [13:17] <falopi> and he was killed lol
#953 [13:18] <falopi> was pretty funny
#954 [13:18] <Frunten> LOL!
#955 [13:19] <falopi> telefrag! :-p
#956 [13:19] <It> voxelhead, was that funny?
#957 [13:19] <VoxelHead> A to the M S T E R D A M
#958 [13:19] <It> wut
#959 [13:19] <Sinnersaix> any server up atm? shadowcraft still down
#960 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Give it a few more hours
#961 [13:19] <TorchDragon> Ok, apparently it only updates the spawnpoint in SSP
#962 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Server admins need to update their servers manually
#963 [13:20] <TorchDragon> Not in SMP.
#964 [13:20] <It> ^ this makes sense if you think about it
#965 [13:20] <falopi> amsterdam... would love to go there haha
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#967 [13:20] <VoxelHead> I will rule you all with an iron fist.
#968 [13:20] <TorchDragon> Not really.
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#970 [13:20] <mib_r0ladf> hello anyone around?
#971 [13:21] <TorchDragon> I'd like the core functionality of the game to work as a standard and then allow mods to change that.
#972 [13:21] <falopi> They need to fix portals in SMP :-)
#973 [13:21] <TorchDragon> Not hope the mods come out with something that is half implemented.
#974 [13:21] <It> falopi I agree. portals are fun
#975 [13:21] <mib_9u40vc> so i'm sure people have already asked this a million times this morning... is there anyway to downgrade the client back to 1.3?
#976 [13:21] <It> voxelhead, u so funny
#977 [13:21] <It> mib, no. you should have backed it up if you wanted to keep it
#978 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_9u40vc - Only if you backed up your .minecraft before updating
#979 [13:21] <mib_r0ladf> anyone know if we can download v 1.3_01 still so i can play on our multiplayer server?
#980 [13:22] <Frunten> Why would you want to downgrade? :)
#981 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_9u40vc - It's against the ToS to distribute 1.3_01
#982 [13:22] <mib_9u40vc> gah i didn't.
#983 [13:22] <mib_r0ladf> soo you cant play multiplayer at all anymore? gotcha
#984 [13:22] <mib_9u40vc> but the site that hosts my server probably won't upgrade to 1.4 for a fe days.
#985 [13:22] <It> we could maybe possibly arrange some sort of hax
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#987 [13:22] <falopi> you need to wait for the server you play on to update
#988 [13:22] <Badugga> Hiya
#989 [13:22] <It> they'll probably upgrade within a few hours
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#991 [13:22] <mib_9u40vc> on google i saw a bunch of sites that can teach you to downgrade to 1.2 n stuff.
#992 [13:22] <falopi> i just updated mine, but it's a private server for me and my pals
#993 [13:22] <It> since nobody can connect if they don't upgrade
#994 [13:23] <Badugga> Wtf is this, i havent gotten the gift code i paid...
#995 [13:23] <Badugga> not even on profile page
#996 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Badugga - How long ago did you pay?
#997 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Usually it takes a few hours for it to process
#998 [13:23] <Badugga> yesterday
#999 [13:23] <Badugga> =/
#1000 [13:23] <VoxelHead> I like them :o)
#1001 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Did you check your account? Were you charged?
#1002 [13:23] <falopi> mine was instant through paypal
#1003 [13:23] <Badugga> I sent message to daniel, and payments@mojang
#1004 [13:23] <Badugga> yes, i was charged
#1005 [13:24] <mib_r0ladf> okay, here is the problem. local friend JUST got a server yesterday, not sure where (im new to minecraft) so we area ll playing, next thing we know, 1.4 comes out, our games MAKE us update, then tells us server is out of date.. all i want is for our server to update or for us to downgrade so we can play, any help?
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#1007 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you did payment@mojang.com
#1008 [13:24] <Badugga> But theres no answer from there =/
#1009 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> not payments@
#1010 [13:24] <It> update the server
#1011 [13:24] <mib_r0ladf> did you read?
#1012 [13:24] <falopi> download the server again, it's 1.4
#1013 [13:24] <Badugga> or was it payment?
#1014 [13:24] <It> mib, is this a server you have access to?
#1015 [13:24] <Badugga> i dunno :D
#1016 [13:24] <mib_r0ladf> how?
#1017 [13:24] <mib_r0ladf> what do you mean download the server?
#1018 [13:24] <falopi> i just had the same issue with my local server
#1019 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Badugga - It's payment@mojang.com
#1020 [13:24] <mib_r0ladf> we never downloaded the server
#1021 [13:24] <falopi> he had to of to play multiplayer
#1022 [13:24] <It> you rented it from somewhere?
#1023 [13:24] <Badugga> k, wait ill check it...
#1024 [13:24] <mib_r0ladf> we PAID for a server, we load minecraft.exe and put in its IP
#1025 [13:25] <Badugga> 'But i got the answer from zendesk
#1026 [13:25] <Badugga> systems
#1027 [13:25] <It> call them and complain to them
#1028 [13:25] <It> email them, whatever
#1029 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_r0ladf - It's minecraft_server.exe or .jar
#1030 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Not minecraft.exe, that's the client
#1031 [13:25] <It> he means he loads the client and connects
#1032 [13:25] <falopi> so it's not a 'local' server then
#1033 [13:25] <It> it isn't local, no
#1034 [13:25] <Badugga> Aww... gotta go
#1035 [13:25] <falopi> mine is run through hamachi, a vpn similar to lan
#1036 [13:25] <Sinnersaix> mauahahahahahhhhhhhhhhh i wanna get online and mione but maahh no server
#1037 [13:25] <VoxelHead> I have already stuffed my normal human belly with delicious human filth that i could not eat another bite.
#1038 [13:26] <falopi> all free
#1039 [13:26] <Badugga> Yea, haxor...
#1040 [13:26] <Badugga> I really paid for minecraft but i did not get it.
#1041 [13:26] <falopi> no hacking lol i have an account that i paid for
#1042 [13:26] <VoxelHead> mmm Frunten
#1043 [13:26] <Badugga> Oh
#1044 [13:26] <Badugga> :D
#1045 [13:26] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1046 [13:26] <falopi> with minecraft
#1047 [13:26] <Badugga> Dang i hate that Daniel is not even answering =(
#1048 [13:27] <falopi> the server.exe file is free
#1049 [13:27] <Badugga> Even not notch, jeb or daniel on twitter =/
#1050 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Badugga - They can't be there 24/7, to personally answer every email they get
#1051 [13:27] <VoxelHead> I like them :)
#1052 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> They're busy as well
#1053 [13:27] <Badugga> YEa =/
#1054 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> They're also on Sweden Time.
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#1056 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> It's also 7:30PM in sweden right now
#1057 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Badugga - All you can do right now, is wait. They'll get you straightened out
#1058 [13:28] <falopi> alright later guys
#1059 [13:29] <Badugga> i live in finland...
#1060 [13:29] <Badugga> :D
#1061 [13:29] <Badugga> one hour more to swedish time
#1062 [13:29] <VoxelHead> =]
#1063 [13:29] <Badugga> =)
#1064 [13:29] <Badugga> Thanks vulpine :D
#1065 [13:29] <It> what's so funny voxelhead?
#1066 [13:29] <VoxelHead> There i suppose.
#1067 [13:29] <It> ??? you confuse me sometimes
#1068 [13:30] <Badugga> is it possible to buy minecraft buy sending moneys to Mojang?
#1069 [13:31] <It> can't you just use a credit card
#1070 [13:31] <Badugga> Well, i bought it once...
#1071 [13:31] <Badugga> And im not buy it twice...
#1072 [13:31] <Badugga> going to*
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#1076 [13:32] <cliff101> download load pls for client 1.3
#1077 [13:32] <cliff101> link
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#1080 [13:32] <Badugga> Voxel, u think is it possible to buy it with cash?
#1081 [13:32] <LeeNug> hey all
#1082 [13:32] <VoxelHead> no, but it does make me horny
#1083 [13:32] <Badugga> Buy sending moneys to Mojang?
#1084 [13:32] <VoxelHead> =)
#1085 [13:32] <Badugga> :D
#1086 [13:32] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1087 [13:32] <Badugga> I hate these emotes...
#1088 [13:32] <Badugga> =)
#1089 [13:32] <Badugga> is better
#1090 [13:32] <LeeNug> anyone know how i can read the Seed from my server's map?
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#1092 [13:33] <Badugga> Yeas
#1093 [13:33] <Badugga> yes
#1094 [13:33] <Badugga> U can use NBTedit
#1095 [13:33] <LeeNug> is that compatible with mac osx?
#1096 [13:33] <Badugga> i dunno <.d
#1097 [13:33] <Badugga> ask moderators
#1098 [13:33] <Badugga> gotta go =/
#1099 [13:33] <Badugga> bye
#1100 [13:33] <LeeNug> ok thanks ;)
#1101 [13:33] <xolotl> LeeNug: If worse comes to worse you could use pymclevel, though that would involve getting Python installed on your system
#1102 [13:34] <cliff101> does anyone here have client 1.3 installer?
#1103 [13:34] <It> cliff.
#1104 [13:34] <cliff101> yep?
#1105 [13:34] <It> we are not supposed to give it to you
#1106 [13:34] <cliff101> why
#1107 [13:34] <It> it's against the terms of use
#1108 [13:34] <cliff101> but my server is 1.3
#1109 [13:34] <It> update your server
#1110 [13:34] <cliff101> it auto updates my client to 1.4
#1111 [13:34] <xolotl> LeeNug: http://pastebin.com/FmDDcYXH is a quick+dirty little python script which would output the random seed of the minecraft level you specify as an argument
#1112 [13:34] <cliff101> im using bukkit man
#1113 [13:35] <cliff101> it still 1.3
#1114 [13:35] <xolotl> LeeNug: (which requires pymclevel, of course)
#1115 [13:35] <It> wait for bukkit to update.
#1116 [13:35] <cliff101> :(
#1117 [13:35] <LeeNug> heh :) cheers xolotl ill give it a go
#1118 [13:35] <It> patience
#1119 [13:35] <Morrolan> Cliff: Search for "Minecraft 1.3. download", you won't have problems fining links.
#1120 [13:35] <cliff101> i need official
#1121 [13:35] <Morrolan> We can't give you any support on this though. ;)
#1122 [13:35] <cliff101> there might be some trojan in here
#1123 [13:35] <Morrolan> There is NO official old client available. Period.
#1124 [13:35] <cliff101> that sucks
#1125 [13:35] <Sinnersaix> any server up now?
#1126 [13:37] <It> probably some
#1127 [13:37] <It> I don't leave mine running
#1128 [13:37] <It> but updating would be trivial
#1129 [13:38] <Sinnersaix> i need a server or at least some catbabys i can disrobe
#1130 [13:38] <cliff101> Waaa
#1131 [13:39] <cliff101> i cant run it to 1.3 it always update to 1.4
#1132 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> It asks you if you want to update, if you're using the new launcher
#1133 [13:39] <cliff101> nah
#1134 [13:39] <cliff101> it doesnt
#1135 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes it does
#1136 [13:39] <cliff101> when i login
#1137 [13:39] <cliff101> when it auto updates
#1138 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't auto-update if you tell it "No", when it asks you
#1139 [13:40] <cliff101> it didnt happen to me man
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#1141 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Then you weren't using the new launcher
#1142 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> (new launcher has the news page, and the updated login box in the lower right corner)
#1143 [13:40] <cliff101> the new launcher is version 1.3 right?
#1144 [13:40] <KentBallz> I'm sure this has been asked a bunch but what was the update?
#1145 [13:40] <cliff101> or 1.4
#1146 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Today KentBallz
#1147 [13:41] <It> check the wiki
#1148 [13:41] <It> !wiki
#1149 [13:41] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/
#1150 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, not the right command
#1151 [13:41] <It> !mcwiki
#1152 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> !help
#1153 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not it
#1154 [13:41] <KentBallz> I looked but I didn't see an update for the 31st
#1155 [13:41] <It> ......
#1156 [13:41] <It> also, run the client
#1157 [13:41] <It> it has the changelog
#1158 [13:41] <Morrolan> KentBallz: Go here: http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#1159 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> ?? wiki
#1160 [13:42] <VoxelHead> wiki: For general questions about Minecraft gameplay, the Minecraft Wiki is an excellent resource.
#1161 [13:42] <VoxelHead> wiki: Go to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/ and enjoy!
#1162 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's it
#1163 [13:42] <It> ?? help
#1164 [13:42] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#1165 [13:42] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
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#1167 [13:42] <IceGuest_77> anyone know whats up with the update?
#1168 [13:42] <Kurimus> hmmh no updated server.jar yet ?
#1169 [13:42] <It> how many bots are in this channel
#1170 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> What about it IceGuest_77?
#1171 [13:43] <It> not for bukkit
#1172 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> It - 3 or 4
#1173 [13:43] <Sinnersaix> jsut you and me
#1174 [13:43] <THOTpd> not a bot
#1175 [13:43] <It> the regular one is updated, redownload it
#1176 [13:43] <KentBallz> so todays update was the 1.4?
#1177 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes KentBallz
#1178 [13:43] <It> ??< index
#1179 [13:43] <ItsCriminal> is minecraft_server 1.4 allready out? or do we have to wait still
#1180 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> KentBallz - For info about 1.4, check: http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#1181 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> It's out ItsCriminal
#1182 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Just redownload it
#1183 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1184 [13:44] <KentBallz> how do you tame a wolf?
#1185 [13:44] <ItsCriminal> so i have to turn off bukkit :D
#1186 [13:44] <It> lol voxelhead is xale
#1187 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> KentBallz - Bone
#1188 [13:44] <xolotl> KentBallz: Feed it bones, I believe
#1189 [13:44] <It> 's bot
#1190 [13:44] <KentBallz> ahhh!
#1191 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Just have the bone out, it'll take it
#1192 [13:44] <VoxelHead> wheeeee ahhh
#1193 [13:44] <KentBallz> gonna go check it :D
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#1195 [13:44] <It> chanserv wins
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#1197 [13:44] <Sinnersaix> server?
#1198 [13:45] <VoxelHead> Crap.
#1199 [13:45] <It> ^
#1200 [13:45] <THOTpd> anyone running SDK and the update
#1201 [13:45] <It> ^ that's not a sentence?
#1202 [13:45] <Morrolan> Add a "?" at the end and it is. ;)
#1203 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> SDK for...?
#1204 [13:46] <aetherian> technically you need an is, I think
#1205 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> only also with an 'Is ' at the beginning.
#1206 [13:46] <VoxelHead> The best kind of you.
#1207 [13:46] <aetherian> heh
#1208 [13:46] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1209 [13:46] <THOTpd> SDKmod adds guns and some other stuff
#1210 [13:46] <Morrolan> Ah well, "is" is really overrated, you know. ;)
#1211 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Ah, a mod, no
#1212 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> That depends on what the definition of 'is' is.
#1213 [13:47] <THOTpd> so sdk would have to rewrite the mod to work with 1.4...
#1214 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes THOTpd
#1215 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> As with any mod
#1216 [13:47] <THOTpd> ok I thought so
#1217 [13:47] <It> first, why would anyone name a mod sdk
#1218 [13:47] <THOTpd> I have a backup of my worlds as vanilla minecraft
#1219 [13:47] <THOTpd> probaby his initials It
#1220 [13:48] <It> second, why would anyone want guns in minecraft
#1221 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> This is kinda the trouble with third party mods, won't be as much trouble when Mojang releases an official mod API
#1222 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> And SDK is generally...
#1223 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> !wiki sdk
#1224 [13:48] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_development_kit
#1225 [13:48] <GreyBot> A software development kit (SDK or "devkit") is typically a set of development tools that allows for the creation of applications for a certain software package, software framework, hardware platform, computer system, video game console, operating system, or similar platform.
#1226 [13:48] <It> sdk means software development kit, which is a component of java
#1227 [13:48] <Morrolan> IT: Cause the guy who made it is called "SDK"
#1228 [13:48] <Morrolan> It*
#1229 [13:48] <It> lol wikipedia
#1230 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> SDK, usually means that.
#1231 [13:48] <It> you could've just asked me :c
#1232 [13:49] <It> java has an sdk, which is what I thought you were talking about
#1233 [13:49] <Morrolan> Well, actually he's called "ScottyDoesKnow", but SDK is shorter and somehow funny. ^^
#1234 [13:51] <ItsCriminal> whats new in 1.4
#1235 [13:51] <xolotl> ItsCriminal: http://lmmcwtfy.com/?n=1&q=version+history
#1236 [13:51] <ItsCriminal> thank yo u
#1237 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> ItsCriminal - http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
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#1239 [13:52] <It> well I'm leaving. voxelhead, please kick It.
#1240 [13:53] <ItsCriminal> thanks GreyVulpine
#1241 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#1242 [13:53] <It> ...
#1243 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead is a bot.
#1244 [13:53] <VoxelHead> shh
#1245 [13:53] <VoxelHead> sekrit
#1246 [13:53] <It> was it you doing it the other day
#1247 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> There is nobody controlling it
#1248 [13:54] <It> i asked it to kick xales... and it did. 3 times.
#1249 [13:54] * bokaholic dances.
#1249 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead. Is. A. Bot.
#1250 [13:54] <It> ask xales about it. it was hilarious
#1251 [13:54] <It> voxelhead: kick It
#1252 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> If you'd like to be kicked.. that can be arranged.
#1253 [13:55] <It> i want voxelhead to do it... :C
#1254 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> pfft
#1255 [13:55] <It> i'll dig up the logs and post them. they were funny
#1256 [13:55] <It> in any case, I still have to go.
#1257 [13:55] * GreyVulpine waves
#1257 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> !k It
#1258 [13:55] * GreyBot kicked It from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:630>)
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#1260 [13:57] <Buhb> hellos
#1261 [13:58] <Morrolan> hey
#1262 [13:58] <Buhb> are these locked chests things a parody of tf2 crates
#1263 [13:58] <Morrolan> Yep
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#1265 [13:58] <Buhb> totally looks like it
#1266 [13:58] <Buhb> heh
#1267 [13:58] <Morrolan> April fools.
#1268 [13:58] <VoxelHead> =)
#1269 [13:58] <Buhb> i knew it
#1270 [13:58] <Morrolan> Also check out this link: http://www.minecraft.net/store/loot.jsp
#1271 [13:58] <Buhb> the min i looked at it i was like ok this has got to be a parody of tf2
#1272 [14:00] <Buhb> yeah this is good
#1273 [14:00] <Buhb> ive never bought anything from that tf2 store it's kind of a joke itself
#1274 [14:00] <Buhb> imo
#1275 [14:00] <Buhb> and have no reason to ever do i play the game to play the game
#1276 [14:00] <Buhb> i bought the thing the time it first came out they got enough of my money heh
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#1279 [14:08] <Morrolan> Jesus, Mojang is actually leading in the March Mayhem atm. Oo
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#1281 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> vs... blizzard?
#1282 [14:08] <VoxelHead> You want the truth? you can't handle the truth!
#1283 [14:09] <aetherian> I guess you'll never know, grey
#1284 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Well, mojang beat valve, just wondering if Morrolan was talking about round 6.
#1285 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Oh, Bioware is in round 6.
#1286 [14:11] <Kealper> hmm....
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#1288 [14:11] <Kealper> Wug (It) still thinks he got vox to kick people....fail
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#1290 [14:11] <mib_62uwkk> heller
#1291 [14:12] <mib_62uwkk> does anyone know
#1292 [14:12] <mib_62uwkk> if the 1.4 bukit has come oput?
#1293 [14:12] <Kealper> xales was issuing the kick commands via DCC to vox every time Wug did VoxelHead, kick $username
#1294 [14:12] <mib_62uwkk> out?*
#1295 [14:12] <Kealper> 1.4 bukkit?
#1296 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_62uwkk - Usually takes a few hours to a day or two
#1297 [14:12] <Kealper> was 1.4 released while i was away? lol
#1298 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Stuff like third party mods take a bit of time to get goign again
#1299 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1300 [14:12] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: I was talking about the final round. Never thought that they'd make it that far. The flaming in the threads is incredible though. :(
#1301 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#1302 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Changelog for 1.4
#1303 [14:12] <mib_62uwkk> ok :./ I I want to play with meh friend but ok
#1304 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Yeah Morrolan
#1305 [14:12] <mib_62uwkk> changelog for 1.4?
#1306 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1307 [14:12] <mib_62uwkk> what do u mean?
#1308 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> A log. Of changes.
#1309 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Shows what was changed/added
#1310 [14:13] * Kealper types "update" into his wrapper and watches it go
#1310 [14:13] <mib_62uwkk> ah, ok
#1311 [14:13] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper, "GO!"
#1311 [14:13] <mib_62uwkk> sorry just woke up
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#1313 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> I wanna make that cookie
#1314 [14:13] <mib_62uwkk> do you know how to?
#1315 [14:13] <mib_62uwkk> w=wheat c=coco
#1316 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, Bioware with 2906 votes, Mojang with 3619
#1317 [14:13] <mib_62uwkk> w c w
#1318 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes mib_62uwkk
#1319 [14:14] <Kealper> 2011-03-31 14:13:50 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.4
#1320 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Go Mojang!
#1321 [14:14] <mib_62uwkk> Kealper how? XD
#1322 [14:14] <mib_62uwkk> build 604 for bukkit is 1.3 correct?
#1323 [14:14] <bokaholic> Where the heck are wolves located? Little bastards even make noise? xD
#1324 [14:14] <Kealper> because i don't run Bukkit, i run my own wrapper that is compatible with all versions of minecraft beta :P
#1325 [14:14] <mib_62uwkk> cool
#1326 [14:14] <mib_62uwkk> and wolves are in foresty areas
#1327 [14:15] <mib_62uwkk> you need bones to tame them
#1328 [14:15] <mib_62uwkk> theyre rare to find
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#1330 [14:15] <Mrkrabz> Where do you find wolves?
#1331 [14:15] <Sinnersaix> mawwwwww
#1332 [14:16] <Sinnersaix> and how to tame?
#1333 [14:16] <Mrkrabz> Cooked porkchop i think
#1334 [14:16] <mib_62uwkk> with bones
#1335 [14:16] <mib_62uwkk> you feed them bones
#1336 [14:16] <mib_62uwkk> no no, bones
#1337 [14:16] <Mrkrabz> oh
#1338 [14:16] <mib_62uwkk> then like, a heart will appear above them
#1339 [14:16] <Mrkrabz> where do you find them?
#1340 [14:16] <mib_62uwkk> or something
#1341 [14:16] <mib_62uwkk> xD
#1342 [14:16] <mib_62uwkk> bohnes? or wolves?
#1343 [14:16] <Mrkrabz> wolves
#1344 [14:16] <mib_62uwkk> wolves are in foresty areas theyre rare
#1345 [14:16] <bokaholic> Ok.. What is Taiga?
#1346 [14:17] <mib_62uwkk> uhm,
#1347 [14:17] <mib_62uwkk> snowy forest?
#1348 [14:17] <mib_62uwkk> i believe
#1349 [14:17] <Sinnersaix> and if i dont get bones? do they eat me?
#1350 [14:17] <mib_62uwkk> no
#1351 [14:17] <mib_62uwkk> I dont think so haha
#1352 [14:17] <bokaholic> And also.. Light levels..? Is 7 high or low? like 0 dark, 10 bright.. or the other way around..?
#1353 [14:17] <bokaholic> lol
#1354 [14:17] <VoxelHead> You dare insult to shirts of VoxelHead^#!*!%percent!.
#1355 [14:17] <bokaholic> </annoying>
#1356 [14:17] <mib_62uwkk> what do u mean?
#1357 [14:17] <mib_62uwkk> bokaholic?
#1358 [14:17] <Mrkrabz> they spawn in night or day?
#1359 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#1360 [14:18] <mib_62uwkk> I dont know ::P
#1361 [14:18] <mib_62uwkk> Im guessing
#1362 [14:18] <mib_62uwkk> dawn and dusk
#1363 [14:18] <bokaholic> Well, the game has levels of light.. Tress and plants need certain levels of light.. 7 usually is a common ground for all stuff. I just am not sure if that is lighter or darker..
#1364 [14:18] <bokaholic> Yay wolves. :D
#1365 [14:18] <mib_62uwkk> lol dunno
#1366 [14:18] <bokaholic> Still confused about the light tho.. D8
#1367 [14:18] <mib_62uwkk> you found one?
#1368 [14:19] <Sinnersaix> any mods updated?
#1369 [14:19] <mib_62uwkk> yea,
#1370 [14:19] <mib_62uwkk> no?
#1371 [14:19] <mib_62uwkk> CHUCK NORRIS IS FIRING HIS LAZAR
#1372 [14:19] <bokaholic> Now.. What do mods do exactly..?
#1373 [14:19] <mib_62uwkk> is the seed i used :P
#1374 [14:19] * bokaholic ducks D8
#1374 [14:19] <mib_62uwkk> modify the game in some way
#1375 [14:19] <bokaholic> Ohhhh..
#1376 [14:19] <mib_62uwkk> lol
#1377 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> bokaholic - They add functionality, give people more things that weren't available in the vanilla version
#1378 [14:19] <mib_62uwkk> there ya go :P
#1379 [14:19] <bokaholic> Figured as much. Maybe I meant to ask a few people's favorites?
#1380 [14:20] <bokaholic> Ohhhh! Fancy!
#1381 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> For SMP right now, it's bukkit
#1382 [14:20] <mib_62uwkk> i cant wait for builkd 605! D=
#1383 [14:20] <underyx> Hey guys, could you please help me? Minecraft keeps crashing for me on Ubuntu 10.10, in browser it goes white in the menu, when running from nautilus, it crashes to desktop when I try to generate a new map, and lauching from terminal prints this: http://pastebin.com/swWb5Vaa
#1384 [14:20] <Morrolan> For infos about the light check out this article: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Light
#1385 [14:20] <mib_62uwkk> underyx sorry
#1386 [14:20] <mib_62uwkk> underyx i dont have ubuntu
#1387 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> For single player.. well, take your pick. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1039&t=93171
#1388 [14:21] <mib_62uwkk> GreyVulpine now, will these work for 1.4?
#1389 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1390 [14:21] <VoxelHead> What do you think this is? Who Wants to be a Millionaire.
#1391 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> underyx: try just -java -jar minecraft.jar
#1392 [14:21] <mib_62uwkk> they should shouldn't they?
#1393 [14:21] <mib_62uwkk> tno...
#1394 [14:21] <mib_62uwkk> ok
#1395 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Gotta wait for mods to update
#1396 [14:21] <mib_62uwkk> kkk
#1397 [14:22] <Kealper> this right here....this is why i don't use server mods lol
#1398 [14:22] <mib_62uwkk> lol
#1399 [14:22] <xolotl> Kealper: word
#1400 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> bah, I think water currents were changed
#1401 [14:22] <mib_62uwkk> yes
#1402 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> I can't go upstream anymore
#1403 [14:22] <mib_62uwkk> you move slower
#1404 [14:23] <Kealper> so updating my server is an "oh joy! new stuff!" moment, and not an "oh crap! new stuff :<"
#1405 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, I can't go and replace that painting now
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#1407 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#1408 [14:23] <underyx> DopeGhoti, thanks, it launched, but it still crashes to desktop halfway through the new world generation screen, I'll try as root
#1409 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> underyx: what version of java are you using?
#1410 [14:23] <mib_62uwkk> does anybody know how long bukkit has been working on the latest build?
#1411 [14:23] <xolotl> underyx: Don't run stuff as root
#1412 [14:24] <underyx> 6 java version "1.6.0_24"
#1413 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> underyx java/linux/debian
#1414 [14:24] <VoxelHead> underyx: (java/linux/debian) While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#1415 [14:24] <VoxelHead> underyx: (java/linux/debian) To install it, `sudo apt-get sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#1416 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> underyx: ah, so you are running the Oracle JRE and not OpenJDK?
#1417 [14:24] <xolotl> underyx: Running as root will not help, and could potentially cause you permissions issues down the road
#1418 [14:24] <underyx> yup
#1419 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Try genning a map with a new seed?
#1420 [14:24] <mib_62uwkk> does anybody have a 1.4 server on right now? D=
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#1422 [14:24] <mib_62uwkk> i just wanna playy
#1423 [14:25] <underyx> well, I might try that, though I left it on random so far
#1424 [14:25] <underyx> blank, I mean
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#1426 [14:26] <underyx> here's the output in terminal: http://pastebin.com/vNwxgpSd
#1427 [14:26] <underyx> and the log file referenced: http://pastebin.com/4zCL48J6
#1428 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> huh
#1429 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> why is it trying to run 'javaw'?
#1430 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> that's the wondoes binary
#1431 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> try deleting ~/.minecraft
#1432 [14:27] <Kealper> no it's not
#1433 [14:27] <underyx> by the way, I had the same problem on a previous install of ubuntu
#1434 [14:27] <underyx> and I've just downloaded the game on this
#1435 [14:28] <Kealper> javaw is the java that handles GUI stuff, isn't it?
#1436 [14:28] <TorchDragon> As of 10.04 Ubuntu will not have the Sun java package available in apt by defualt.
#1437 [14:28] <VoxelHead> i'm not psychic
#1438 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> TorchDragon: we covered that.
#1439 [14:28] <Kealper> because i've always seen CUI java use java, and GUI java use javaw
#1440 [14:28] <underyx> TorchDragon, I'm using 10.10
#1441 [14:28] <underyx> oh
#1442 [14:28] <underyx> sorry
#1443 [14:28] <underyx> I misunderstood you
#1444 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> well, if it cann't find javaw, that implies part of the JRE is missing.. try `sudo apt-get --reinstall install sun-java6-jre`
#1445 [14:29] <underyx> okay, I also deleted ~/.minecraft
#1446 [14:30] <underyx> crashed again
#1447 [14:30] * DopeGhoti points up three lines
#1447 [14:30] <underyx> I did that
#1448 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> java version "1.6.0_24"
#1449 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07)
#1450 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
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#1452 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> and `java -version`'s second line of output still starts 'Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment'?
#1453 [14:31] <underyx> yup
#1454 [14:31] <underyx> java version "1.6.0_24"
#1455 [14:31] <underyx> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07)
#1456 [14:31] <underyx> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
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#1459 [14:34] <underyx> oh, the terminal output is a bit different now
#1460 [14:34] <underyx> http://pastebin.com/HMkXS1Ny
#1461 [14:34] <underyx> lots of 'Failed to open device's
#1462 [14:34] <underyx> also, -version say Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM in the 3rd line, instead of Client
#1463 [14:35] <underyx> could that be related?
#1464 [14:35] <hardly> Hi. Simple question. Does time progress when no one is logged into the server?
#1465 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Can we get the pastbin of
#1466 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> /home/underyx/Downloads/hs_err_pid4566.log
#1467 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> hardly -Yes it does
#1468 [14:36] <underyx> GreyVulpine, log file here: http://pastebin.com/Tr4Jt6ar
#1469 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Oh bleh, you're running an ATI card, with the fglrx drivers, aren't you?
#1470 [14:37] <underyx> yup
#1471 [14:37] <VoxelHead> Bye Mathis.
#1472 [14:37] <underyx> should I switch to radeon?
#1473 [14:37] * GreyVulpine winces
#1473 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> You can try.. but I don't really know if they'll help
#1474 [14:38] <underyx> okay, I'll do anything for my dear minecraft :D
#1475 [14:38] <hardly> Thanks GreyVulpine, I thought so.
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#1478 [14:41] <underyx> okay, rebooting, will be right back
#1479 [14:42] <ItsCriminal> how to tam wolfs
#1480 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Bone, right click
#1481 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> May take more than one
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#1483 [14:44] <bokaholic> I killed my wolf. He was trying to protect me. ;.;
#1484 [14:45] <xolotl> bokaholic: lupicide!
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#1486 [14:45] <Matty> My friend can't use either version of the Windows Minecraft on XP, gets this error: http://pastie.org/1740524
#1487 [14:46] <xolotl> Hm
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#1489 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> Matty: looks like a problem with the video driver
#1490 [14:46] <gooberman> Hello everyone
#1491 [14:46] <xolotl> If I have a pet wolf, I bet it'll kill sheep that I'm collecting wool from. That would be unfortunate,.
#1492 [14:47] <VoxelHead> Yes... wait a minute... no.
#1493 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> has your friend gotten all Windows updates and the latest drivers from ATI?
#1494 [14:47] <xolotl> (assuming I collect using a melee attack)
#1495 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: how else would you collect woll?
#1496 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Tell your wolf to sit
#1497 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Right click with a bone
#1498 [14:47] <gooberman> Hey guys, quick question - I just updated my server and when i try to log in, the server side logs my IP and says i need to log in first....any help?
#1499 [14:48] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: I thought one could use fishing rods to do so without inflicting damage
#1500 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> gooberman - What server? classic or beta?
#1501 [14:48] <Morrolan> You're using the wrong server most likely.
#1502 [14:48] <gooberman> beta
#1503 [14:48] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: Snowballs I think technically work, too, though those would be cumbersome to carry around
#1504 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: o.O This is new.
#1505 [14:48] <Morrolan> !server
#1506 [14:48] <VoxelHead> The best kind of work
#1507 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> (to me)
#1508 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> How are you launching the server gooberman, with start-server.bat, or minecraft_server?
#1509 [14:48] <gooberman> it just updated to the 1.4 i think
#1510 [14:48] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: Could be I'm wrong; I've never actually bothered trying 'cause I just punch 'em
#1511 [14:48] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: If I'm going to have pet wolves following me around I may want to prevent wanton carnage though. :)
#1512 [14:48] <gooberman> i have both files since i was running on 1.3 but i use the server.bat
#1513 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> You're using the classic server then.
#1514 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Use:
#1515 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1516 [14:49] <Morrolan> Xolotl: Collecting wool with a fishing rod works fine. :)
#1517 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> wanton. wonton is a chinese buffet appetizer
#1518 [14:49] <VoxelHead> I'm making a cake.
#1519 [14:49] <xolotl> Morrolan: Ah, k.
#1520 [14:49] <xolotl> Good to know. Though I'm used to playing on Peaceful, which makes fishing rods more difficult to come by. Decisions!
#1521 [14:49] <gooberman> Greyvulpine - thanks for the help. I'll try the link you sent
#1522 [14:49] <TorchDragon> How do you know he's not trying to prevent carnage of his appetizers?
#1523 [14:50] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: Yeah, I used an "a"
#1524 [14:50] <Morrolan> Gooberman: Could try this solution here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1048192#p1048192
#1525 [14:50] <TorchDragon> I'm assuming wolves would eat wanton.
#1526 [14:50] <xolotl> TorchDragon: heh
#1527 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: .. /me squints, and apologizes
#1528 [14:50] <Morrolan> It did atleast help one guy it seems.
#1529 [14:50] <TorchDragon> My dog does...
#1530 [14:50] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: :)
#1531 [14:51] <gooberman> Thanks, i'll check it out
#1532 [14:51] <gooberman> !server
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#1534 [14:51] * Kealper updates the cookie for his texture pack
#1534 [14:52] <underyx> alright, I purged fglrx completely
#1535 [14:52] <underyx> and now I get another kind of crash
#1536 [14:52] <underyx> before the main menu
#1537 [14:52] <underyx> displayed in the game window
#1538 [14:52] <underyx> http://pastebin.com/BQVMXkqH
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#1540 [14:53] <Chanito> hey guys, where can i find the new about V.1.4 and how do i upgrade my server for it?
#1541 [14:53] <Morrolan> Gooberman: And check out this thread. Scroll down a bit and there is a post of Daniel Kaplan and a link to the Java bugtracker: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=160507
#1542 [14:53] <Morrolan> Chanito: Go Here: http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#1543 [14:53] <Morrolan> To get the new server!
#1544 [14:53] <Chanito> thx
#1545 [14:53] <Morrolan> !server
#1546 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> Chanito: to update your server, download the .. ninja'd
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#1549 [14:54] <Morrolan> Actually, can you use the !server command in the middle of a sentence?
#1550 [14:54] <Morrolan> Hmm, I guess not then. :/
#1551 [14:54] <gooberman> GreyVulpine - Sorry man, nothing i read there was any help... any other thoughts?
#1552 [14:54] <VoxelHead> 69
#1553 [14:54] <Chanito> im running the server on ClanForge, which makes it more complicated to update
#1554 [14:55] <Morrolan> Chanito: You'll need to wait for them to upload the newest server then. I guess they should have done it by tomorrow.
#1555 [14:56] <Chanito> alright, thank you :)
#1556 [14:56] <bokaholic> Does anyone know if the wolves go away when/if you die?
#1557 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> gooberman - Not really, sorry, the fglrx driver issue is a little..
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#1560 [14:56] <Morrolan> Bokaholic: They stay where they are I think.
#1561 [14:56] <Morrolan> Unless you died close to spawn, then they teleport to you.
#1562 [14:56] <gooberman> i'll keep checking around online - maybe someone else is having the same issue
#1563 [14:57] <bud> Ok, I am a little on the dissapppointed end, 1.4 has not fixed the issues I am having like everyone thought
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#1565 [14:57] <bud> I have been a paid beta member for three weeks now, and I cannot go into multi at all
#1566 [14:57] <underyx> I am rebooting with fglrx reinstalled, be right back
#1567 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> bud- what issues did everyone think you were having?
#1568 [14:58] <BrotherHakone> Hey guys, I just updated Minecraft and whenever I launch it now, it gets to the Mojang loading screen and then crashes. What should I do? I'm on a windows machine.
#1569 [14:58] <VoxelHead> and then a bear came
#1570 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> BrotherHakone - Using any mods?
#1571 [14:58] <Morrolan> BrotherHakone: Any mods?
#1572 [14:58] <Morrolan> Oh, ninja'd
#1573 [14:58] <bud> chat lags, I cannot kill animals, chunk errors, I break resources, and instead of giving me supply, they respawn, and I get dc'd after like five minutes, no matter what server I log into at what time
#1574 [14:58] <BrotherHakone> no mods, just a skin pack.
#1575 [14:58] <Morrolan> Bud: did you try a local server?
#1576 [14:59] <bud> local server?
#1577 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> BrotherHakone - Try deleting/moving the skin pack out
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#1579 [14:59] <Morrolan> A server hosted on the PC you're playing on / on a PC in your LAN.
#1580 [14:59] <bud> no I haven't
#1581 [14:59] <Morrolan> Since this way we could see if it's your connection which is somehow messed up or something else.
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#1583 [15:00] <bud> my sp works fine, its just connecting to servers, we spent two days checking my speeds, and specs, everything appears fine to run, its just messed up
#1584 [15:00] <bud> I will try a local real quick, but I am afraid, it may yield the same results
#1585 [15:00] <BrotherHakone> I don't remember the filepath of the skins folder...can you tell me where it is?
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#1587 [15:00] <underyx> Okay, crashed again after 'Saving chunks' completed
#1588 [15:00] <underyx> thanks for the help guys, anyway
#1589 [15:00] <bud> brb
#1590 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> BrotherHakone - What OS are you on?
#1591 [15:01] <BrotherHakone> Vista
#1592 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/.minecraft
#1593 [15:01] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1594 [15:01] <Morrolan> Brotherhakone: The skin folder? Don't you mean the texturepack folder?
#1595 [15:01] <BrotherHakone> yeah, same thing....
#1596 [15:02] <bud> ok, just tried local server, and this is what I got when trying to start it up, a constant loop of, generating properties file and failed to save properties file
#1597 [15:02] <bud> it was an infinite loop
#1598 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: in some parlances, 'skin' can mean 'texture replacement for an application' (cf. WinAmp); it's a poor choice here because it is generally used to mean player model skin, as you know. (:
#1599 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> bud - Got a pastebin.com of the error?
#1600 [15:03] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Yeah, that's true.
#1601 [15:03] <Morrolan> Bud: It could be worth creating an empty properties file yourself, it might work then.
#1602 [15:03] <BrotherHakone> Alright, thanks guys
#1603 [15:03] <Morrolan> Could be worth trying to create*
#1604 [15:04] <Chanito> Anyone who can help me creating admins for my bukkit server? ive been struggling with it for 3 days, but no luck
#1605 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> Chanito mods
#1606 [15:04] <VoxelHead> Chanito: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1607 [15:04] <VoxelHead> Chanito: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1608 [15:04] <Chanito> thx
#1609 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Also, 1.4 is out, so bukkit will take a few days to get caught up
#1610 [15:04] <bud> Grevulpine - do you mean the local server error? if so, I couldn't get the screen to stand still long enough to grab it, maybe a screenshot, but if I click to hard close, it freezes and I have to end process via the task mgr
#1611 [15:04] <bud> and how would I create a properties file?
#1612 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> bud - What OS are you launching this in?
#1613 [15:05] <hardly> bud: should be there after running the server. start it and then stop it.
#1614 [15:05] <bud> well I know how, where would I put it?
#1615 [15:05] <bud> I am windows 7
#1616 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> When you launch the server, it should create the server.properties file
#1617 [15:05] <hardly> it is in the same dir as the server jar
#1618 [15:06] <hardly> you don't put it anywhere.
#1619 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> bud - Does it try and create it again when you launch the server for the second time?
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#1621 [15:06] <bud> it starts a high speed infinite loop, that goes, creating properties file, and failed to save properties file
#1622 [15:06] <bud> I will try
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#1624 [15:06] <TorchDragon> The server executable would need write privelages to the location that you're executing from.
#1625 [15:07] <TorchDragon> I missed the beginning, where's he launching the server exe from?
#1626 [15:08] <bud> ok, just ran as admin, and got the server to load
#1627 [15:08] <TorchDragon> Bud, where are you running the server at?
#1628 [15:08] <TorchDragon> er, from...
#1629 [15:08] <bud> currently loading spawn error
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#1631 [15:09] <bud> at first was trying to run from my downloads, just moved a copy to my desktop so I could run as computer admin, and got it to create the properties file
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#1633 [15:10] <Dark58> Hi, I've got a problem :( I can connect on the website but no on the game, I can't connect after the update :(
#1634 [15:10] <Dark58> someone can help me ? :(
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#1636 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Dark58 - What is it giving you?
#1637 [15:11] <VoxelHead> i like them :-)
#1638 [15:13] <bud> ok, when trying to play from local server, I get the same problems.... in the console for the local server, I get the message Warning: Can't keep up did the system time change, etc.
#1639 [15:13] <bud> I also took a screenshot of my in game debug screen, if that helps
#1640 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Do you get that warning frequently? or just occasionally
#1641 [15:14] <bud> it spammed that warning, within the first few seconds of attempted gameplay
#1642 [15:14] <bud> in game the chunks didn't load at all
#1643 [15:15] <bud> and outside of game, within thirty seconds, had gotten that console error 17 times
#1644 [15:15] <bud> before I killed server
#1645 [15:16] <bud> but as far as in game, I got the same bugginess, I get, when i try to connect to other servers
#1646 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Just the occasional message is to be expected. If you're getting spammed that in the console, your server may not be up to the task of hosting MC
#1647 [15:16] <bud> lagged chat, no chunks...
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#1649 [15:16] <pierpaf> hey bud
#1650 [15:16] <bud> ok, but I am not trying to host MC
#1651 [15:16] <bud> hi pier
#1652 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#1653 [15:16] <bud> grey, my problem is with gameplay
#1654 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> bud - Try turning off animals/monsters in your server then
#1655 [15:17] <bud> someone in here suggested I try a localserver to see if I get the same bugs as when I try to connect to any other server
#1656 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> See if that gives you any differences
#1657 [15:18] <bud> where do I find the server properties to try this?
#1658 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> same place where you have the server file in
#1659 [15:19] <TorchDragon> Its a .properties file in the same directory that you launched the exe from.
#1660 [15:20] <Tanjoodo_iPod> bud: Do you have these same problems when connecting to other servers? (lagged chat, chunks not loading...etc)
#1661 [15:21] <bud> that is the root of my problem, only reason I tried a local server, was someone told me to see if I got these problems when trying a local server
#1662 [15:21] <bud> I am not trying to run a server, my best friend has a server, and I want to connect to that
#1663 [15:22] <bud> but I have had these problems for three weeks, someone said it was just bugs that would be worked out with the 1.4 update, but
#1664 [15:22] <bud> they didn'
#1665 [15:22] <aetherian> could it be a problem with internet connection?
#1666 [15:22] <bud> no, me and kealper tested everything on my connection and my specs, everything came out with flying colors
#1667 [15:23] <bud> I even hardwired to my router and still got the same issues
#1668 [15:23] <TorchDragon> Windows 7 right?
#1669 [15:23] <bud> yes
#1670 [15:23] <bud> and my firewalls are turned off
#1671 [15:23] <Tanjoodo_iPod> bud: Problem seems to be with your network/client.
#1672 [15:23] <TorchDragon> Start > type cmd into the search bar > hit enter.
#1673 [15:23] <TorchDragon> on the window that comes up, type tracert "address of your friends server"
#1674 [15:23] <bud> ok cmd prompt is up
#1675 [15:23] <TorchDragon> Without quotes
#1676 [15:23] <aetherian> you could try pinging the server...
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#1678 [15:24] <TorchDragon> copy and pastebin the results when it finishes.
#1679 [15:24] <bud> how do I copy frm cmd prompt?
#1680 [15:25] <aetherian> I don't think you can
#1681 [15:25] <xales> You can
#1682 [15:25] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Screenshot.
#1683 [15:25] <bud> kk
#1684 [15:25] <xales> right click -> mark
#1685 [15:25] <TorchDragon> ^^
#1686 [15:25] <xales> drag over text
#1687 [15:25] <xales> hit enter
#1688 [15:25] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1689 [15:25] <xales> then it's copied
#1690 [15:25] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Or do it cakes way.
#1691 [15:25] <Tanjoodo_iPod> xales*
#1692 [15:25] <bud> it won't drag over txt, I will take a scrnshot
#1693 [15:25] <TorchDragon> Right click, select mark, then drag
#1694 [15:26] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Autocorrect, it corrected xales to cakes :/
#1695 [15:26] <aetherian> haha
#1696 [15:27] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Anyway, happy birthday xales!
#1697 [15:27] <xales> ._.
#1698 [15:27] <xales> did m0d tell you that?
#1699 [15:27] <bud> where do I go to put in the screenshot?
#1700 [15:27] <aetherian> (hehehe)
#1701 [15:27] <xales> bud: imgur.com
#1702 [15:28] <Tanjoodo_iPod> xales: The freaking TOPIC told me (in #lobby)
#1703 [15:28] <xales> then that was m0d, yeah
#1704 [15:28] <Tanjoodo_iPod> :P
#1705 [15:29] <aetherian> at least we hope it's a "happy" birthday
#1706 [15:29] <bud> imgur is down, I will upload to facebook and get a link from that
#1707 [15:30] <aetherian> I wouldn't exactly say down, per se
#1708 [15:30] <bud> it says they were at capacity
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#1710 [15:31] <Zeta> Um...does this new update have bugs in it cause my minecraft won't load
#1711 [15:32] <bud> http://mibpaste.com/U9HFrC
#1712 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Zeta, define, "Won't load"
#1713 [15:32] <BigRedWood> does anyone know the IRC channel/server for bukkit?
#1714 [15:32] <Zeta> It get past the logo and then freezes
#1715 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> #bukkit
#1716 [15:32] <BigRedWood> thanks grey
#1717 [15:32] <Zeta> And I never had problems with it, til I updated
#1718 [15:33] <bud> that is the screenshot of the tracert, from cmd prompt
#1719 [15:33] <TorchDragon> Ok, so the entry point at the colo where your friend's server is being hosted has some odd ping times.
#1720 [15:34] <TorchDragon> 171, 87, 285
#1721 [15:34] <TorchDragon> on the cmd prompty
#1722 [15:34] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Try pinging the server.
#1723 [15:34] <TorchDragon> type ping -t "friend's server address"
#1724 [15:34] <Tanjoodo_iPod> without quotes.
#1725 [15:34] <TorchDragon> Let it run for a bit and just watch the numbers.
#1726 [15:35] <TorchDragon> You're looking at the column that says "time"
#1727 [15:35] <TorchDragon> Its second in from the right.
#1728 [15:35] <bud> time is averaging 32 - 56 ms
#1729 [15:35] <bud> and ITL is 53 -54 constant
#1730 [15:36] <bud> had one spike of 133 ms but everything else is at a constant within range
#1731 [15:37] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Did you try redownloading Minecraft?
#1732 [15:37] <TorchDragon> Well, internet connection is probably not the issue then.
#1733 [15:37] <Zeta> I did yes.
#1734 [15:37] <bud> I tried three times with 1.3, will try again now
#1735 [15:37] <TorchDragon> 1.3 is not the latest version.
#1736 [15:37] <bud> should I get rid of the .minecraft and the .exe? or just the .exe?
#1737 [15:37] <Zeta> How can I downgrade?
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#1739 [15:38] <nom> nom,nom,nom
#1740 [15:38] <TorchDragon> Sorry, Zeta, talking to bud.
#1741 [15:38] <Zeta> *sigh*
#1742 [15:38] <TorchDragon> Zeta: Are you running any mods?
#1743 [15:38] <Zeta> Yes. Should I remove them?
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#1745 [15:38] <nom> is there any such thing like private multiplayer
#1746 [15:38] <TorchDragon> Zeta: Yes. There was an update.
#1747 [15:39] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Zeta: Yes, attempt that.
#1748 [15:39] <TorchDragon> Nom: Run your own server, don't tell anyone.
#1749 [15:39] <Ninja> anyone here who ca help :p i need to change the email on my account
#1750 [15:39] <VoxelHead> No
#1751 [15:39] <TorchDragon> Nom: Whitelist yourself if you feel even more paranoid.
#1752 [15:39] <nom> ummm what does that mean
#1753 [15:39] <nom> not that paranoid
#1754 [15:39] <nom> but can i get someone with me on singleplayer
#1755 [15:40] <Ninja> how do i change my minecraft email
#1756 [15:40] <TorchDragon> Nom: No, you have to run a multiplayer server.
#1757 [15:40] <nom> how do i do that'
#1758 [15:40] <nom> disregard the '
#1759 [15:40] <TorchDragon> Read any one of the wonderful FAQ/tutorials found on the any number of minecraft websites.
#1760 [15:41] <nom> oh, fine , you wont tell me :P
#1761 [15:41] <TorchDragon> Is it unreasonable for you to attempt to follow the instructions written out many times by many people before I'm expected to hold your hand through a relatively long and tedious process?
#1762 [15:41] <TorchDragon> I personally don't think so.
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#1764 [15:42] <TorchDragon> Fair warning, the server performance on windows is pretty weak compared to Linux.
#1765 [15:42] <Tech-Sensei> Hello. I'm trying to find the software to host a minecraft server on my computer so my girlfriend and I can play together in survival mode, however the links I find for the server software don't match up to what the guides say to click/edit. Help?
#1766 [15:42] <Kealper> Ninja: you can't
#1767 [15:43] <Kealper> TorchDragon: not if you do it right
#1768 [15:43] <nom> ummm what website do you recomand caus i tried the faq and it didnt help
#1769 [15:43] <TorchDragon> Kealper: What's the short list of what needs to be changed? I have a 3.2ghz quad core that was pretty unhappy trying to host even 3 peopple.
#1770 [15:43] <Kealper> Tech-Sensei: check these links
#1771 [15:43] <Kealper> !server
#1772 [15:43] <nom> ummm ignore bad spelling ::/
#1773 [15:44] <TorchDragon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server
#1774 [15:44] <Kealper> TorchDragon: mine is running happily on a 2.9Ghz dual core
#1775 [15:44] <Zeta> Fixed it
#1776 [15:44] <nom> thnaks torch
#1777 [15:44] <Tech-Sensei> Ah, I had the .jar files, that explains it
#1778 [15:44] <bud> just redownloaded minecraft.exe and made it to give fresh copy of %appdata% .minecraft
#1779 [15:44] <Zeta> Thank you
#1780 [15:44] <bud> and the same thing still
#1781 [15:44] <TorchDragon> Kealper: Running anythin but a stock executable?
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#1783 [15:44] <bud> Kealper, the updated did not get rid of the issue :/
#1784 [15:44] <Kealper> bud: :/
#1785 [15:45] <Kealper> TorchDragon: using the stock jar
#1786 [15:45] <Tech-Sensei> Oh cool an update. What changed?
#1787 [15:45] <Kealper> with 2 gigs of ram allocated, but it never reaches that cap
#1788 [15:45] <TorchDragon> Kealper: Really? I was running stock jar, 2gb ram and any time 3+ people connected, we'd get huge processor usage spikes.
#1789 [15:46] <bud> I don't know what else to do :'(
#1790 [15:46] <Kealper> TorchDragon: playing on the same machine as you were hosting?
#1791 [15:46] <TorchDragon> Kealper: Yep.
#1792 [15:46] <TorchDragon> I'm figuring it had more to do with that.
#1793 [15:46] <Kealper> TorchDragon: how much ram?
#1794 [15:46] <TorchDragon> 4gb
#1795 [15:46] <TorchDragon> Wasn't anywhere near max usage on my resource monitors.
#1796 [15:46] <Kealper> TorchDragon: set the process priority of the server to Above Normal
#1797 [15:47] <TorchDragon> I did.
#1798 [15:47] <TorchDragon> It wasn't an issue with priority, it just loaded the CPU to 100%
#1799 [15:47] <nom> wow ummm... thtas diffacult, ill just leave that to the person that wants to play with me lol nom out
#1800 [15:47] <Kealper> did it lag without you playing on it?
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#1802 [15:48] <TorchDragon> Yep
#1803 [15:48] <Gr3mlin> hay TorchDragon, what OS?
#1804 [15:48] <bud> Kealp, is there anything we haven't tried? any risks that haven't been worth taking until now?
#1805 [15:48] <Kealper> oh....no idea then, java and/or minecraft server just hates that computer
#1806 [15:48] <bud> I will do just about anything, to get this running
#1807 [15:49] <Tanjoodo_iPod> bud: Do you have an another computer?
#1808 [15:49] <Kealper> bud: reinstall windows? (or download Ubuntu and do the Wubi installer to do a simple dual boot, and play minecraft under that)
#1809 [15:49] <bud> only other computer, doesn't have the video card for it
#1810 [15:49] <bud> how do I download that Kealp?
#1811 [15:49] <Tech-Sensei> Okay so I'm running the server software, but how do I connect to my own server?
#1812 [15:49] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Ubuntu.com
#1813 [15:49] <bud> ah kk thanks..
#1814 [15:49] <Kealper> bud: Ubuntu? gimme a sec to get you a link
#1815 [15:50] <Gr3mlin> can anyone save me a heap of time and tell me where i can get the latest update for our Private MC server?
#1816 [15:50] <Kealper> bud: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
#1817 [15:50] <TorchDragon> G3mlin: Win 7 64-bit
#1818 [15:50] <TorchDragon> I eventually moved it over to my ubuntu server and its been perfectly happy there.
#1819 [15:51] <bud> lol its gonna take 18 minutes to download ubuntu
#1820 [15:51] <bud> if that doesn't work I am gonna do a complete factory restore of my computer, if that doesn't work
#1821 [15:51] <Kealper> bud: when it's done downloading, tell me and i'll give you instructions on how to install it through windows
#1822 [15:51] <VoxelHead> Kealper: i and me
#1823 [15:51] <bud> I am gonna take a shotgun and put a hole in the center of the cpu lol
#1824 [15:51] <Kealper> VoxelHead: me and i
#1825 [15:51] <Gr3mlin> hmmm, odd. i was having Mega lag issues as soon as a 3rd person joined, but that was XP, installed 7 just to try, runs like a dream! had 6 people no lag.
#1826 [15:51] <bud> kk thanks Kealper XD
#1827 [15:51] <VoxelHead> kealper: i and me
#1828 [15:51] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Wow, only 18 minutes? It would take 2 hours over here.
#1829 [15:51] <TorchDragon> bud: If changing operating system doesn't work, you're not going to fix it. :-)
#1830 [15:51] <Kealper> VoxelHead: ME... and I!
#1831 [15:52] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Gr3mlin: Win 7 is faster on newer hardware.
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#1833 [15:52] <TorchDragon> Gr3mlin: Yeah, it was odd. We've had over 8 people on my linux box since then. I figure its just a non-preferred config for the server.
#1834 [15:52] <Kealper> indeed...if your computer can handle windows 7, drop xp like a bad habbit, it's garbage compared to 7
#1835 [15:53] <Gr3mlin> a few weeks ago i would have disagreed with you Kealper, but, now, i agree!
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#1837 [15:53] <bud> ya its only 18 mins
#1838 [15:53] <Kealper> TorchDragon: sounds like it's just something that was not set up correctly in your windows install then :/
#1839 [15:53] <Gr3mlin> its as old as the hils!
#1840 [15:53] <Joshua_F> How do I set up a Multiplayer Survival Server?
#1841 [15:53] <Kealper> Joshua_F: well, do you have the server downloaded?
#1842 [15:54] <Joshua_F> yea
#1843 [15:54] <Kealper> place it in it's own folder, and then just run it lol
#1844 [15:54] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Gr3mlin: How old?
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#1846 [15:54] <Joshua_F> That's not survival though.
#1847 [15:54] <bud> down to 10 minutes already :) see, I know there is no problem with my connection speeds, for a file of its size to download so quickly :/
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#1849 [15:54] <mopedmusch> hello! can someone be nice and help me setup 1.4 server?
#1850 [15:54] <TorchDragon> bandwidth/latency are not specifically linked.
#1851 [15:54] <Kealper> !server Joshua_F: download the link that AuBot is about to give
#1852 [15:54] <TorchDragon> :-) You can have good bandwith with bad latency.
#1853 [15:55] <Kealper> ^
#1854 [15:55] <Respawn> Hm hello? am i in the right place for a minecraft server help ?
#1855 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes Respawn
#1856 [15:55] <TorchDragon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server for actual setup
#1857 [15:55] <Respawn> oh i have a question
#1858 [15:55] <Gr3mlin> like.. 2001?
#1859 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Ask away Respawn
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#1861 [15:55] <Kealper> Gr3mlin: indeed
#1862 [15:55] <mopedmusch> Well, when i download the server software i can't see any minecraft_server.exe? need help please
#1863 [15:56] <Kealper> mopedmusch: is there a file called "minecraft_server"?
#1864 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> mopedmusch, did you download it from:
#1865 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1866 [15:56] <Respawn> right i am trying to host a server on windows xp, but about 1 or 2 mins later the hole server and the place its hosted freezes and we need to restart the hole thing
#1867 [15:56] <Respawn> we had the same problum on windows server 2003
#1868 [15:56] <TorchDragon> whole
#1869 [15:56] <Kealper> Respawn: was it the same machine?
#1870 [15:56] <Respawn> no
#1871 [15:56] <Kealper> Respawn: how much ram does your current server have?
#1872 [15:57] <Respawn> right now on the new server we have 16 gb
#1873 [15:57] <Kealper> Respawn: what do you mean "freezes and we need to restart the whole thing?"
#1874 [15:57] <mopedmusch> thanks for help aubot it worked i guess! =)
#1875 [15:58] <Kealper> Respawn: like, it's internet just stops working for a few seconds?
#1876 [15:58] <Respawn> the dedi server freeze
#1877 [15:58] <Gr3mlin> sorry, is there an up2date 1.4 server file yet?
#1878 [15:58] <Respawn> as in you cant do nothing at all. the server needs to be restarted
#1879 [15:58] <Kealper> Gr3mlin: yes
#1880 [15:58] <AkiTensai> "Would you like to update now?" -Yes. *MC updates* "An unhandled win32 exception occured in javaw.exe. No tamable wolfs for you!" /sigh
#1881 [15:58] <Kealper> Gr3mlin: well, vanilla server, i doubt mods are updated yet
#1882 [15:58] <mopedmusch> It works BUT how do i get my last server save to the new server?
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#1884 [15:58] <mopedmusch> i had millions of buildings etc
#1885 [15:58] <Gr3mlin> thats ok, have now mods installed! ;)
#1886 [15:59] <Gr3mlin> no*
#1887 [15:59] <TorchDragon> mopedmusch: if the saves are compatible, just copy the "world" directory to the new server
#1888 [15:59] <mopedmusch> ok
#1889 [15:59] <Kealper> AkiTensai: tried deleting everything out of %appdata%\.minecraft\bin ?
#1890 [15:59] <TorchDragon> If you've renamed your world, change the name in the config file.
#1891 [15:59] <VoxelHead> mmm Bafver
#1892 [16:00] <Respawn> @Kealper: yes like that.
#1893 [16:00] <bud> 6 minutes XD I hope this solves things hehe
#1894 [16:00] <AkiTensai> Kealper: Yes. Literally 8 times. Last two also included a Java uninstall, both using CCcleaner, and last using Revo Uninstaller.
#1895 [16:00] <AkiTensai> Minecraft as exe, FF3, FF4, and Chrome all crash just before the menu and just after updating the game.
#1896 [16:01] <mopedmusch> can someone talk to me private i dont understand the thing with copy which file to which map
#1897 [16:01] <AkiTensai> (If the latest download is already downloaded, it skips the update as it should and goes right to the crash >.> )
#1898 [16:01] <Kealper> ??> AkiTensai win/profile
#1899 [16:01] <VoxelHead> AkiTensai: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1900 [16:01] <VoxelHead> AkiTensai: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1901 [16:02] <Kealper> Respawn: sounds like the machine is having NIC buffer troubles then....ever used VM software?
#1902 [16:02] <AkiTensai> Excelent idea. It will take me a bit before I can do that though.
#1903 [16:02] <Kealper> brb in a few
#1904 [16:02] <Respawn> @Kealper: VM Software sorry ?
#1905 [16:02] <TorchDragon> mopedmusch: there is a sub directory located in the same directory as your server executable. It will be the name of your multiplayer world. The default is "world"
#1906 [16:02] <AkiTensai> Kealper: Certainly hope it isn't a system problem. Last solution that I was attempting was a VM on this machine for the ability to play at all...
#1907 [16:03] <TorchDragon> If you specified something else in your server config, it would be named that.
#1908 [16:03] <mopedmusch> okey
#1909 [16:03] <TorchDragon> If you want to move the map to a new server, you need to copy the entire directory and put it in the same folder as the new server's executable.
#1910 [16:03] <AkiTensai> Respawn: VM is for Virutal Machine. It allows you to have another machine installed virtually on your current one. More info: http://www.virtualbox.org/
#1911 [16:04] <mopedmusch> okay, thanks torchdragon will try that!
#1912 [16:05] <mopedmusch> YES IT WORKS! thanks TorchDragon <3 :P
#1913 [16:05] <TorchDragon> no prob
#1914 [16:06] <xolotl> Oh hey, it looks like wolves probably don't attack if they've been told to "sit"
#1915 [16:06] <TorchDragon> :-( Wish my dog would do that.
#1916 [16:06] <mopedmusch> so how do you command and feed them?
#1917 [16:06] <Respawn> AkiTensai: Thank you. i will give it a try see if that helps
#1918 [16:06] <mopedmusch> killed a wolf before on my single player world :/
#1919 [16:06] <xolotl> Awesome, no fishing-pole fleecing for me
#1920 [16:07] <xolotl> mopedmusch: right-click will tell them to sit; right-click again will let them move around and do stuff
#1921 [16:07] <mopedmusch> ok
#1922 [16:07] <mopedmusch> and you could feed them with something, what happen if you feed?
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#1924 [16:07] <xolotl> mopedmusch: You can feed them at least porkchops, which will heal them
#1925 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> maybe it heals them?
#1926 [16:07] <AkiTensai> Respawn: It appears Kealper may have been worried that you were using VM software and that was a cause of problems, not a potential solution. I'm unsure about this.
#1927 [16:07] <Kealper> back
#1928 [16:07] <Kealper> no
#1929 [16:07] <mopedmusch> ah okey
#1930 [16:08] <xolotl> (they can take damage in battle, etc - I guess their tail will tell you their health? Up = full health, down = hurt)
#1931 [16:08] <mopedmusch> I will start building again thanks for help guys, bye!
#1932 [16:08] <xolotl> (Or at least that's what the wiki said)
#1933 [16:08] <Respawn> oh i see. well as of now we dont use any thing like that.
#1934 [16:08] <Kealper> i was suggesting he run his server in a virtual machine, it will probably fix the issue
#1935 [16:08] <Respawn> just can't understand why its doing the same as it was on windows 2003 :(
#1936 [16:08] <Kealper> it's a windows driver issue with that specific network card that machine has
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#1938 [16:09] <Respawn> hm did not think about the network care
#1939 [16:09] <Kealper> the minecraft server is trying to push more data to the card than the driver can handle, so the driver crashes
#1940 [16:10] <Kealper> running it in a virual machine will allow the VM software to control the data more carefully, thus usually preventing driver crashes
#1941 [16:10] <Kealper> a quick google search of "run ubuntu in virtualbox" will get you some instructions on how to get set up
#1942 [16:11] <bud> kealp
#1943 [16:11] <bud> is ubuntu also known as NTI Media Maker?
#1944 [16:11] <bud> "/
#1945 [16:11] <Respawn> could remote desktop make the server crash ?
#1946 [16:11] <bud> :/
#1947 [16:11] <Kealper> no
#1948 [16:11] <bud> hmm
#1949 [16:11] <bud> I downloaded, what said ubuntu 10.10
#1950 [16:12] <bud> and it brought up a gui for NTI Media Maker
#1951 [16:12] <Kealper> Respawn: usually not, but it probably doesn't help the load on the buffer :/
#1952 [16:12] <TorchDragon> bud: NTI Media Maker is a CD burning tool.
#1953 [16:12] <Kealper> bud: that is probably the software that says it works with .iso files :/
#1954 [16:12] <TorchDragon> What you downloaded is an entirely new operating system.
#1955 [16:12] <bud> :/
#1956 [16:12] <TorchDragon> You can't just "run" it.
#1957 [16:13] <Kealper> TorchDragon: actually what i want him to do is just that
#1958 [16:13] <TorchDragon> Well, :-) Load it with another program.
#1959 [16:13] <bud> ok, well, it says it downloaded ubunto 10.10
#1960 [16:13] <Kealper> bud: do you have any programs installed like PowerISO, Daemon Tools, or other such software?
#1961 [16:13] <bud> ubuntu*
#1962 [16:13] <bud> not sure
#1963 [16:14] <bud> it doesn't show any of those two in search
#1964 [16:14] <bud> what programs are they for?
#1965 [16:14] <Kealper> virtual CD drives, to make it so you don't have to burn Ubuntu to a disc
#1966 [16:14] <Kealper> unless you wanted to burn it..lol
#1967 [16:15] <Respawn> @Kealper: Is there any way to change the load on the "buffer" if that can be done ?
#1968 [16:15] <Kealper> if not, i can give you a link to download PowerISO
#1969 [16:15] <Kealper> Respawn: it's almost always not changable :/
#1970 [16:15] <bud> don't think so, only thing I have is PowerDVD or something like that...
#1971 [16:15] <Kealper> Respawn: although, you could try reinstalling the network card drivers from the maker's site
#1972 [16:16] <bud> PowerDVD is prolly not related to the situation at all tho lol
#1973 [16:16] <Kealper> bud: yeah, that isn't it....go to http://poweriso.com and download the trial of that, it works fine, and has no expiration date
#1974 [16:16] <TorchDragon> Bud, random question.
#1975 [16:16] <TorchDragon> Did you try playing it from the website?
#1976 [16:16] <bud> yes?
#1977 [16:17] <bud> yes, and got some of the similar things, just not the disconnect
#1978 [16:17] <TorchDragon> ok, just checking
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#1980 [16:18] <Respawn> @Kealper: just having a look.
#1981 [16:19] <bud> Kealper, what files should I associate with PowerISO?
#1982 [16:19] <bud> or just leave that at defaults?
#1983 [16:19] <Kealper> bud: defaults usually work fine
#1984 [16:19] <bud> kk thanks
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#1986 [16:20] <bud> need to reboot computer, is it ok to wait until later? or should I do it now?
#1987 [16:20] <bud> it gives me option
#1988 [16:20] <ESL|Stryker> bud
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#1990 [16:20] <ESL|Stryker> hey
#1991 [16:20] <ESL|Stryker> can you help me with something
#1992 [16:20] <Kealper> i believe you need to restart to use the feature that you need
#1993 [16:20] <ESL|Stryker> any of you guys?
#1994 [16:21] <Kealper> ESL|Stryker: yes?
#1995 [16:21] <bud> hey ESL
#1996 [16:21] <bud> ok going to restart
#1997 [16:21] <bud> brb
#1998 [16:21] <ESL|Stryker> ok i need help updating my mincraft server
#1999 [16:21] <VoxelHead> I had one of them the other week. They're very nice, aren't they?
#2000 [16:21] <ESL|Stryker> i have no idea what to do
#2001 [16:21] <ESL|Stryker> its on a dedicated box and it runs as a service
#2002 [16:21] <ESL|Stryker> runserv.exe that points to minecraft.bat
#2003 [16:21] <Kealper> ESL|Stryker: you pay for someone to host it for you?
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#2005 [16:22] <ESL|Stryker> i have my own dedicated server
#2006 [16:22] <wukkuan> Quick question, do you guys know of a utility or way to find out exactly what biome I'm in?
#2007 [16:22] <Kealper> oh, so you have access to the desktop and whatnot?
#2008 [16:22] <ESL|Stryker> yes
#2009 [16:22] <ESL|Stryker> full unrestricted access
#2010 [16:22] <Kealper> wukkuan: none that i know of :/
#2011 [16:22] <wukkuan> Lame!
#2012 [16:22] <Kealper> ESL|Stryker: stop your server with the /stop command ingame, or with stop inside the server console
#2013 [16:22] <ESL|Stryker> ok
#2014 [16:22] <ESL|Stryker> hold on
#2015 [16:23] <wukkuan> Thanks, though.
#2016 [16:23] <Kealper> !server download the link that AuBot will link, get one one for windows
#2017 [16:23] <ESL|Stryker> ok i stopped the server
#2018 [16:23] <ESL|Stryker> now what
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#2020 [16:24] <Kealper> actually
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#2022 [16:24] <Kealper> you said it starts with a .bat file?
#2023 [16:24] <raubaer> Hallo
#2024 [16:24] <ESL|Stryker> yeah
#2025 [16:24] <ESL|Stryker> it does
#2026 [16:24] <Kealper> get the .jar one then
#2027 [16:24] <ESL|Stryker> hold on ill tell you exactly which on e
#2028 [16:24] <hermit> is there any way to fix the new bug where fullscreen crashes MC?
#2029 [16:24] <ESL|Stryker> yeah mincraft.bat
#2030 [16:24] <Kealper> just replace your current .jar with the new one, start your server again, and it's updated
#2031 [16:24] <Respawn> @Kealper: i hear now then the minecraft server freezes / crashes. it locks up the dedi box and dont allow any connections to it at all.
#2032 [16:24] <raubaer> hi this is my first time with Minecraft
#2033 [16:24] <Respawn> when*
#2034 [16:25] <raubaer> who play online?
#2035 [16:25] <ESL|Stryker> nice thanks man
#2036 [16:25] <ESL|Stryker> can you link me to the new jar file
#2037 [16:25] <raubaer> why gives no serverlist
#2038 [16:25] <Kealper> Respawn: that would probably be because the network driver crashed lol
#2039 [16:25] <Kealper> ESL|Stryker: in the same links that AuBot said, just get the one marked "For Linux"
#2040 [16:25] <ESL|Stryker> ok thanks
#2041 [16:26] <ESL|Stryker> i appreciate the help
#2042 [16:26] <Respawn> @Kealper: hm the guy who is sorting the new box out has installed all the right drives and anyupdates
#2043 [16:26] <ESL|Stryker> did they fix the ultra lag?
#2044 [16:26] <Kealper> ESL|Stryker: ultra lag bug?
#2045 [16:26] <ESL|Stryker> i don't know its so laggy even running 5 slots
#2046 [16:26] <Kealper> what sort of lag? really choppy movement or really delayed actions?
#2047 [16:26] <ESL|Stryker> it stutters sometimes then has to catch up to itself
#2048 [16:27] <ESL|Stryker> opening doors some times open then close
#2049 [16:27] <ESL|Stryker> kinda like that
#2050 [16:27] <ESL|Stryker> you start walking in one direction then you walk for a bit
#2051 [16:27] <ESL|Stryker> then all of a sudded your back where you started
#2052 [16:27] <lyude> There should be saddles for creepers
#2053 [16:27] <Kealper> what sort of internet speeds, cpu, and ram does said server have?
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#2055 [16:27] <Kealper> lyude: if you could get close enough to saddle it...lol
#2056 [16:28] <bud> ok got it done, and my compy also autoassociated Ubuntu to PowerISO
#2057 [16:28] <ESL|Stryker> 8GB ram cup is a 2.6GHz Intel Core2Quad Q8400
#2058 [16:29] <lyude> Wasn't the Q8400 a bad CPU
#2059 [16:29] <lyude> iirc
#2060 [16:29] <Kealper> bud: right click the ubuntu file, go to the PowerISO settings, select mount to drive
#2061 [16:29] <ESL|Stryker> idk
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#2063 [16:29] <ESL|Stryker> is it ?
#2064 [16:29] <lyude> Q6600/Q9550 where it at bra
#2065 [16:29] <Kealper> ESL|Stryker: what sort of internet speed does said server have?
#2066 [16:29] <bud> the icon? or in program?
#2067 [16:29] <Respawn> @Kealper: nope all network drives are up to date. But it still seems to lockup
#2068 [16:29] <Kealper> bud: uhh....the icon? lol
#2069 [16:30] <doitwuss> hello just updated and can tfind any wolves, do i have to make a new aworld
#2070 [16:30] <ESL|Stryker> 100 mbit
#2071 [16:30] <bud> oh kk lol, I had already had it up n running... just closed out to do so
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#2073 [16:30] <BerzerkinG> hello world
#2074 [16:30] <Respawn> Hello
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#2076 [16:30] <Kealper> Respawn: then it's a limitation that can't be changed...you're going to have to run your minecraft server in a virtual machine then :/
#2077 [16:30] <doitwuss> so do i have to make a new world to get dogs or wolves
#2078 [16:30] <BerzerkinG> is there anybody who success runing minecraft on debian squeeze with ati card ?
#2079 [16:31] <bud> ok, I just did that, nothing happened, or is that how it was sposed to go? lol
#2080 [16:31] <Respawn> hm i see.
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#2082 [16:31] <Kealper> bud: now to into your computer settings, there should be a thing in there for the ubuntu disc, like it was actually in a drive..double click it
#2083 [16:32] <bud> it came up with an installation type screen
#2084 [16:32] <doitwuss> CAN SOMEBODY ANSER MY DAMN WUESTION
#2085 [16:32] <Captain-Lightning> derp.
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#2087 [16:32] <Axe> hi
#2088 [16:32] <Kealper> bud: called Windows Ubuntu Installer?
#2089 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> doitwuss: thanks for your patience.
#2090 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> doitwuss - No you don't need to make a new world
#2091 [16:32] <bud> demo and full installation, install inside windows, learn more, and cancel
#2092 [16:32] <doitwuss> any time
#2093 [16:32] <bud> yes
#2094 [16:32] <raskull> doitwuss: no, just upgrade
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#2096 [16:33] <bud> should I choose install inside windows?
#2097 [16:33] <doitwuss> i did amd i cant see any wolve-dogs or whatever]
#2098 [16:33] <VoxelHead> choose "dental" insurance
#2099 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> doitwuss - Then look in the right biome
#2100 [16:33] <raskull> they are supposed to be fairly rare, so you might have to look around for a while.
#2101 [16:33] <Kealper> bud: ok, set that up how you want, it should have an option to create a login, and set how much hdd space you want to allocate
#2102 [16:33] <doitwuss> which is????
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#2104 [16:34] <Drezi> my server isnt responding
#2105 [16:34] <Drezi> after i updated it
#2106 [16:34] <Drezi> :/
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#2108 [16:34] <Kealper> Drezi: did you have any mods installed?
#2109 [16:34] <bud> ok, what should I set it up for spacewise?
#2110 [16:34] <Drezi> no
#2111 [16:34] <Drezi> it says connections refused
#2112 [16:34] <bud> I trust your opinion :D
#2113 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> doitwuss - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wolves
#2114 [16:34] <Kealper> bud: what is it set at by default?
#2115 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> doitwuss - Wolves will spawn in forest and taiga biomes.[
#2116 [16:34] <Axe> nen deutscher hier der mir evtl. ne frage beantworten kann?
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#2118 [16:35] <Bort> Anyone know a server i can play on (plus 1)?
#2119 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#2120 [16:35] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2121 [16:35] <Kealper> Axe: speak english?
#2122 [16:35] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2123 [16:35] <bud> installation drive : 184 gb free, installation size 17gb,
#2124 [16:35] <Axe> my question was: if any germanspeaking here ^^ to answer a question i have ;)
#2125 [16:35] <doitwuss> what the hell is taiga
#2126 [16:35] <Kealper> bud: 17 gb is probably overkill, it's probably safe to go with like 4gb
#2127 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> !wiki taiga
#2128 [16:35] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga
#2129 [16:36] <GreyBot> Taiga (pronounced /ˈtaɪɡə/, Russian: тайга́; from Turkic or Mongolian), also known as the boreal forest, is a biome characterized by coniferous forests.
#2130 [16:36] <bud> kk
#2131 [16:36] <Axe> ^^^^
#2132 [16:36] <doitwuss> u da man greybot
#2133 [16:36] <VoxelHead> ~~^#%�%@@
#2134 [16:36] <BerzerkinG> debian + ati + minecraft ... carsh : any idee ? (no wine i me using it but it s slown ;))
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#2136 [16:36] <doitwuss> so its the same thing as a forest bsically bye thamks greybot, greyvulpine
#2137 [16:37] <Axe> cause i whant to know if my minecart disappiers if i go far away ^^ ore if it stays in place like a chest
#2138 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> BerzerkinG - Sorry, no idea.
#2139 [16:37] <raskull> BerzerkinG: what kind of crash? can you give me more details?
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#2141 [16:37] <bud> ok, says I need to reboot to complete :D brb again lol
#2142 [16:38] <Kealper> bud: yeah....before you do
#2143 [16:38] <bud> kk
#2144 [16:38] <Kealper> bud: this is important
#2145 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> raskull - It's an fglrx + linux issue
#2146 [16:38] <Kealper> bud: because it's going to take about 15 minutes
#2147 [16:38] <Kealper> bud: when you restart, you will be given the option to run windows or ubuntu
#2148 [16:39] <bud> ok
#2149 [16:39] <ESL|Stryker> haha it worked
#2150 [16:39] <Kealper> bud: select ubuntu, and you will be taken to a thing to finalize the installation, set options, etc...for the most part, the defaults are fine
#2151 [16:39] <ESL|Stryker> thanks for the help Kealper
#2152 [16:39] <bud> so choose ubuntu?
#2153 [16:39] <raskull> ah, and it's a problem with all debian/ati installs?
#2154 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> raskull - You can see reports about it here:
#2155 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/ubuntu_sun_java_ati_hd5850_fglrx_drivers_crash
#2156 [16:39] <bud> ah ok
#2157 [16:39] <raskull> k
#2158 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/crashes_on_ubuntu_10_10
#2159 [16:39] <bud> that all I need to know for the moment? :)
#2160 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> It's an fglrx + *nix issue
#2161 [16:39] <Axe> ._.
#2162 [16:39] <Kealper> yeah, to everyone: fglrx is a joke, so ati + linux + minecraft don't play well
#2163 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, there's no real solution for it.
#2164 [16:40] <BerzerkinG> yep it s like : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3965925 in the first post
#2165 [16:40] <bud> Kealper, is that all I need to know for the moment?
#2166 [16:40] <BerzerkinG> ti m on debian squeeze 32bit and the last ati druvers ... and java and all :)
#2167 [16:41] <Kealper> bud: when you get in to ubuntu...it will probably look rather strange and unfamiliar...just look for firefox, or something called internet...double click that and get back in here for more instructions lol
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#2169 [16:41] <bud> kk lol, if I am not back in twenty minutes, call the police XD
#2170 [16:41] <Kealper> bud: by the time you get to there, you're almost done, and then you can go around sounding really nerdy saying "i dualboot windows and ubuntu!"
#2171 [16:42] <bud> lol, oh before I go, that reminds me XD
#2172 [16:42] <Kealper> well...better not say ubuntu...say linux lol
#2173 [16:42] <bud> I got accepted into computer programming school XD
#2174 [16:42] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go T_T
#2175 [16:42] <Kealper> bud: well, this could be a learning experience for you then lol
#2176 [16:42] <Kealper> it never hurts to know something other than just windows stuff :P
#2177 [16:43] <bud> lol every day here for me is a learning experience XD never leave this chat without being a little smarter each time XD
#2178 [16:43] <bud> kk brb
#2179 [16:43] <Kealper> but anyways, any time you want to jump to the other OS, just restart and select it
#2180 [16:43] <Kealper> :P
#2181 [16:43] <Axe> Gameplay question(singleplayer): i want to know if my minecart (and minecart with funiture & with chest inside) dissappears if i go far away more than 300blocks ^^ or if it stays in place like a chest ore buildings
#2182 [16:43] <bud> ah ok :P
#2183 [16:43] <bud> ooh wait...
#2184 [16:43] <bud> just out of curiosity, can I run other things from it?
#2185 [16:43] <Kealper> Axe: it will just not move until that chunk is loaded
#2186 [16:44] <bud> such as classic MSN etc?
#2187 [16:44] <Kealper> bud: they are totally separate from eachother, but ubuntu is very well integrated with messeging stuff
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#2189 [16:44] <Axe> but stays in place? kk and a boat?
#2190 [16:44] <raeubaer> hello
#2191 [16:44] <bud> cool XD, may just skip out on win7 and only run from there rofl
#2192 [16:44] <bud> kk brb
#2193 [16:44] * bud waves :P
#2193 [16:44] * Kealper waves
#2193 [16:45] <Kealper> raeubaer: hi
#2194 [16:46] <raeubaer> wassap i wanna talk with the irc channel.i have logged in on minecraft site
#2195 [16:46] <Kealper> lol
#2196 [16:46] <raeubaer> i cant write on the minecrafgtchannel
#2197 [16:46] <Axe> this is the help channel ^^
#2198 [16:46] <raeubaer> ya
#2199 [16:46] <Kealper> raeubaer: inside #minecraft?
#2200 [16:46] <raeubaer> i need help
#2201 [16:46] <Kealper> hmm....1 sec
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#2204 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> you need to register your nickname
#2205 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> use:
#2206 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email
#2207 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Then follow the directions in your email
#2208 [16:47] <raeubaer> oh okay
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#2210 [16:49] <calatalee> hey
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#2213 [16:52] <DanB> Is there anyway to download minecraft 1.3?
#2214 [16:52] <Kealper> i'm off to the store....if bud comes back in here before i get back and you don't know how to use linux...just tell him to wait for me lol
#2215 [16:52] <Kealper> DanB: not if you already updated to 1.4
#2216 [16:52] <DanB> Darn :(
#2217 [16:52] <Kealper> anywho.....
#2218 [16:52] * Kealper goes to the store
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#2220 [16:55] <Catman> Hej! i got a problem with my server. Had a server before and it worked find. Opened the 25565 port and everyone could join me. but now i regopend it on my new computer and noone can join me. Do u guys maybe know the reason?
#2221 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Catman - Make sure your port forwarding settings are setup right
#2222 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Double check it
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#2225 [16:58] * VoxelHead is away: taking over the world
#2225 [16:58] <raeubaer> holong is the time to recieve the email
#2226 [16:58] <Catman> yeah same as the last computer
#2227 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> This is a different computer?
#2228 [16:58] <Catman> yeah
#2229 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Does it have the exact same internal IP?
#2230 [16:58] <Catman> yeah
#2231 [16:59] <Catman> i cheaked it on ipchicken
#2232 [16:59] <Catman> and it was the same
#2233 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> That.. doesn't give you the internal IP
#2234 [16:59] <Catman> ok
#2235 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> You set up port forwarding, correct?
#2236 [16:59] <Catman> yes i did
#2237 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> What was the first step you did?
#2238 [16:59] <Catman> yes
#2239 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> That's not the right answer.
#2240 [17:00] <Catman> what is the right awnser?
#2241 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> What is the first step you did in port forwarding?
#2242 [17:01] <Catman> i did a name for it then i put start port then end port. then put protocal on both and then pressed add.
#2243 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and what IP address did you put in for the port forwarding?
#2244 [17:02] <Catman> 192.168.0.10
#2245 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Okay, how did you get that IP address?
#2246 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> That wasn't from ipchicken, obviously.
#2247 [17:02] <Catman> no idea xD. i made that on the other computer to and it worked
#2248 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Okay, let's do it this way, what operating system does the server run on, now?
#2249 [17:02] <Catman> i did something in the CMD last time if i dont rember wrong
#2250 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> That's right
#2251 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Windows then?
#2252 [17:03] <Catman> yes
#2253 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Could you please pull up the run command, type in: cmd
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#2255 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Then, ipconfig at the black command prompt
#2256 [17:03] <Tech-Sensei> Is there a server command to 'blank' the world and start over?
#2257 [17:03] <bud> Kealper still here? :D
#2258 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Tech-Sensei - Delete the /world/ folder
#2259 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> after closing the server
#2260 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> The server will generate a new world when you start it up again
#2261 [17:03] <Tech-Sensei> where is the /world/ folder located? I'm running the self contained .exe
#2262 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Same directory where you have the .exe
#2263 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Catman - You got the command prompt open?
#2264 [17:04] <Catman> yeah
#2265 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Did you do ipconfig?
#2266 [17:04] <Catman> mm
#2267 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> mm?
#2268 [17:04] <Catman> yes
#2269 [17:04] <Tech-Sensei> Ooo I see.. files all ove rmy desktop
#2270 [17:04] <Catman> sorry its a swedish thing
#2271 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Okay, what is the ip or ipv4 address?
#2272 [17:05] <Catman> 83.254.196.175
#2273 [17:05] <bud> Am running into trouble with the Ubuntu thing
#2274 [17:05] <raeubaer> can i join?
#2275 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Catman - Wait what?
#2276 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> bud, wait one moment, Kealper is away, he'll be back in a few minutes
#2277 [17:05] <bud> kk
#2278 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Catman - Is this running at your house as well?
#2279 [17:06] <Catman> i dont understand
#2280 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Catman - Is this computer at your house, or is it hosted somewhere else?
#2281 [17:07] <Catman> at my house
#2282 [17:07] <raeubaer> can i join your ip Catman
#2283 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> When I asked what your ip address was, I was referring to ipconfig
#2284 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> "ipconfig" should give you your internal IP address
#2285 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> raeubaer - This isn't the place to ask that
#2286 [17:07] <raeubaer> oki sorry
#2287 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Use #smp to ask for people whose servers you can join
#2288 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> or.
#2289 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#2290 [17:08] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2291 [17:08] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2292 [17:08] <Catman> Ipv4=83.254.196.175
#2293 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Catman - From ipconfig?
#2294 [17:08] <Catman> yes
#2295 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Is the server currently running right now?
#2296 [17:09] <Catman> yes
#2297 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> !check 83.254.196.175
#2298 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Looks like it's up
#2299 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Use "83.254.196.175" to connect
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#2301 [17:10] <Catman> wait a sec i think if i put "83.254.196.175" insted of 10 in the end it sems to work
#2302 [17:10] <Catman> i thx for the help
#2303 [17:10] <Catman> i did work
#2304 [17:10] <Catman> :)
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#2306 [17:10] <Catman> i dont understand what i did but it did work :P
#2307 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> You probably were using the wrong ip, or your ISP gave you a different IP
#2308 [17:10] <weirdo> hi since the new update do wolves show up on my old world i made before the update happened?
#2309 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes weirdo
#2310 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Wolves will appear in your old world
#2311 [17:11] <weirdo> kk and if i play of peaceful will they still show up or on any difficulty
#2312 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Wolves will spawn in peaceful
#2313 [17:11] <weirdo> any difficulty
#2314 [17:11] <weirdo> ?
#2315 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wolves
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#2317 [17:13] <bondenn> Hello?
#2318 [17:13] <bondenn> *echoes*
#2319 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2320 [17:14] <bondenn> Can anyone help me? i'm trying to set up a server using the .exe provided on the website
#2321 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> What problems are you having?
#2322 [17:14] <bondenn> I've forwarded the ports etc to my ip but i still can't seem to connect
#2323 [17:14] <bondenn> (unless through my local ip but then ofc my friend can't)
#2324 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Okay, can you start from the beginning, tell me your network setup
#2325 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> What is your local IP?
#2326 [17:15] <bondenn> 192.168.1.103, ==> Router ==> Internet
#2327 [17:16] <bondenn> oh wait..
#2328 [17:16] <bondenn> i found it
#2329 [17:16] <bondenn> :P
#2330 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#2332 [17:16] <mib_bxeran> heyyy!
#2333 [17:16] <mib_bxeran> ok
#2334 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2335 [17:16] <bondenn> I had mistyped a number on the fort forwarded
#2336 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Ah, heh, okay then
#2337 [17:16] <bondenn> Thanks anyway :D
#2338 [17:16] <mib_bxeran> who uses bukkit on theyre server?
#2339 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#2340 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_bxeran - No. And bukkit says they're not compatible with 1.4 yet
#2341 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Check out #bukkit
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#2343 [17:16] <mib_bxeran> ah,
#2344 [17:16] <mib_bxeran> but
#2345 [17:16] <mib_bxeran> Grey
#2346 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2347 [17:17] <mib_bxeran> they have put up +603-608
#2348 [17:17] <raeubaer> i have register me but i didnt recieve the email
#2349 [17:17] <mib_bxeran> #
#2350 [17:17] <mib_bxeran> and,
#2351 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> The topic in #bukkit still says that's not compatible yet
#2352 [17:17] <mib_bxeran> they and recommended yet so :/
#2353 [17:17] <KA_Gamer> Can I get a direct link to the server software? I'd do it myself, but I forgot the command.
#2354 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2355 [17:17] <KA_Gamer> Thanks.
#2356 [17:17] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2357 [17:18] <bud> kealp still afk? :)
#2358 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes, he had to run out to the store
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#2360 [17:18] <KA_Gamer> I'll let ya know if I have more problems.
#2361 [17:18] <killking72> so 1.4 is out?
#2362 [17:18] <bud> ah kk
#2363 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> That's what we're here for
#2364 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes killking72
#2365 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Changelog for 1.4: http://mcupdate.tumblr.com
#2366 [17:18] <killking72> where are the patch notes? can you toss me a link?
#2367 [17:18] * GreyVulpine reads minds
#2367 [17:19] * BarryCarlyon hails GreyVulpine as his personal saviour
#2367 [17:19] <BarryCarlyon> WE ARE NOT WORTHY!
#2368 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#2369 [17:22] <KA_Gamer> Ok, so I'm trying to dwonload it and it the bar just stops gotin.... any advice?
#2370 [17:23] <KA_Gamer> *going
#2371 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall of minecraft?
#2372 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#2373 [17:23] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2374 [17:23] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2376 [17:24] <KA_Gamer> I'm talking about the server software fyi
#2377 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh, uh
#2378 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2379 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Try the server download from there
#2380 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#2381 [17:25] <KA_Gamer> I did, I'm getting the same results
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#2383 [17:26] <KA_Gamer> Any advice?
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#2385 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I can't really give you anything..
#2386 [17:27] <KA_Gamer> K.. I'll try to download it later, it could be an amazon problem.
#2387 [17:29] <Kealper> that took....so much longer than i thought it would
#2388 [17:29] <BarryCarlyon> One sec.
#2389 [17:30] <BarryCarlyon> If you trust me grab it from here: http://minecraft.barrycarlyon.co.uk/minecraft_server.jar
#2390 [17:30] <BarryCarlyon> Since amazon is being a tree.
#2391 [17:30] <Kealper> bud: did you poke around Ubuntu and see what is what? lol
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#2393 [17:31] <BarryCarlyon> link expired
#2394 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> BarryCarlyon: Shaame
#2395 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> ??> BarryCarlyon distribution
#2396 [17:33] <VoxelHead> BarryCarlyon: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#2397 [17:33] <VoxelHead> BarryCarlyon: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#2398 [17:33] <raeubaer> narf i cant chat in minecraft .i have register me...how long have anybody wait for the email?
#2399 [17:33] <BarryCarlyon> Indeed.
#2400 [17:34] <BarryCarlyon> I headesked the moment I realised what I had done :-P also GreyVulpine pointed it out.
#2401 [17:34] <Tech-Sensei> Problem: I am trying to run a minecraft server. I downloaded and ran the minecraft server, and connected to it... but something is horribly wrong with the world. Here's what I see when I log in : http://tinypic.com/r/wlvpm1/7
#2402 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> raeubaer - It's usually immediate
#2403 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> It's alright DopeGhoti
#2404 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> raeubaer - Check your junk folder, if you have one
#2405 [17:34] <bud> kealper
#2406 [17:34] <bud> I am running into trouble
#2407 [17:35] <bud> I had to get back to windows to use my internet
#2408 [17:35] <bud> I cannot enable my LAN
#2409 [17:35] <bud> and frankly don't know how to set up the WiFi on it rofl
#2410 [17:35] <Kealper> bud: it didn't just work? :/
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#2412 [17:36] <bud> well, I can't enable lan
#2413 [17:36] <bud> my LAN button on top of my compy
#2414 [17:36] <raeubaer> no i have dont recieve
#2415 [17:37] <raeubaer> hmmm im to stupid to register???
#2416 [17:37] <raeubaer> ya
#2417 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Sec raeubaer.
#2418 [17:37] <Kealper> bud: hmm...i don't really know how to enable it then, i've never had troubles with ubuntu, it just always worked for me :<
#2419 [17:37] <Tech-Sensei> Can I please get some help? When I log into my server, it's like the world hasn't loaded and all I do is fall over and over, I can see lava far below me, bits of trees, monsters floating in the air...
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#2422 [17:37] <Dax> Me and my buddies play on a miencraft server. How do we update the file so we can play?
#2423 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Dax, just redownload the server from the website, and replace
#2424 [17:38] <Matty> Do you own the server Dax?
#2425 [17:38] <Dax> Yes
#2426 [17:38] <Matty> Yeah, what grey said
#2427 [17:38] <bud> sec I will get you the message it gives when its grayed out... brb
#2428 [17:38] <Dax> Thank you both
#2429 [17:39] <Aekom> Hi there, does anybody know when they'll let you change your recovery email again?
#2430 [17:39] <Tech-Sensei> *sigh* can anyone hear me?
#2431 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Tech-Sensei - Yes?
#2432 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Tech-Sensei - Ah, has it worked before? Is this the first time?
#2433 [17:40] <Tech-Sensei> Trying to get help connecting to multiplayer server. My girlfriend and I are on the same network. I can connect to server with 127.0.0.1, she can't.
#2434 [17:40] <Kealper> Aekom: i haven't heard anything on it, so no idea
#2435 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Tech-Sensei - What is she connecting with? What IP?
#2436 [17:40] <Tech-Sensei> GreyVulpine, after about 3 minutes left alone it eventually loaded the whole world. I guess there's no delay between 'connect' and 'start playing' for it to actually finish loading the world
#2437 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Right, it loads as you join Tech-Sensei.
#2438 [17:40] <Aekom> ok cool thanks kealper
#2439 [17:41] <Tech-Sensei> I tried having her connect with 127.0.0.1, same that worked for me on the computer hosting the server. I also tried my external IP, which is 24.130.183.253
#2440 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> But 3 minutes is a tad long, usually only takes a few seconds
#2441 [17:41] <Tech-Sensei> Neither works, gets 'connection refused'
#2442 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward Tech-Sensei? 127.0.0.1 only points to the computer it's used on
#2443 [17:41] <Tech-Sensei> Ah. I don't think I have port forwarding set up. We're both on the same network though.
#2444 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Then, try using your internal IP address.
#2445 [17:42] <Tech-Sensei> How do I find my internal IP address?
#2446 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on?
#2447 [17:42] <Tech-Sensei> vista x64
#2448 [17:42] <BarryCarlyon> Haha: http://www.minecraft.net/store/loot.jsp
#2449 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Okay, press your windows+R key to bring up the run command, type in "cmd"
#2450 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, use: ipconfig
#2451 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Use the ipv4 address listed there
#2452 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> That'll be the internal IP address of the server
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#2454 [17:43] <Tech-Sensei> K i'll try that one sec
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#2456 [17:44] <wacko> hello
#2457 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2458 [17:44] <Tech-Sensei> WORKED! Thank you!
#2459 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#2460 [17:44] <wacko> I cant seem to get my server updated with the version available on minecraft.net
#2461 [17:45] <wacko> I checked the logs and it says it is loading Beta 1.3
#2462 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> wacko - you're using minecraft_server.exe or .jar from the website?
#2463 [17:45] <wacko> .jar
#2464 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> You're using the vanilla server right? No mods? Not running bukkit?
#2465 [17:45] <wacko> it is attempting to run bukkit :(
#2466 [17:45] <wacko> I was afraid that might be the issue...h aving to wait for bukkit to update
#2467 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> bukkit usually takes a few hours to a few days to update
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#2469 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Check #bukkit, I think they have a very early release out
#2470 [17:46] <Sleep> hello
#2471 [17:46] <wacko> thank you grey
#2472 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Seems to work, but use at your own risk
#2473 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> 'lo Sleep
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#2475 [17:46] <Sleep> I'm wondering if someone can direct me to build instructions for Bukkit?
#2476 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> #bukkit
#2477 [17:46] <Sleep> hehe gotcha
#2478 [17:46] <Sleep> Thanks
#2479 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> We don't really provide support for bukkit here, sorry.
#2480 [17:47] <bud> Kealper: it says in parenthesis beside wireless connection (Firmware Missing)
#2481 [17:47] <Sleep> no problem
#2482 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> Don't think any of our ops ever run bukkit. >.>
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#2484 [17:47] <Sleep> cheers
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#2486 [17:47] <M3cael> Hey anyone getting a No compatiable version of Java is availbale ?
#2487 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> That's.. new.
#2488 [17:47] <Kealper> bud: hmm....i guess it doesn't have the drivers for it then...and i don't know how to get them...
#2489 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> On what OS?
#2490 [17:48] <M3cael> Mac OS X - http://i.imgur.com/cdMYf.png is the error
#2491 [17:48] <M3cael> ignore the java prefs. it's the same with Minecraft
#2492 [17:48] <xales> M3cael: What version of OS X?
#2493 [17:48] <M3cael> xales: http://i.imgur.com/sbyp3.png
#2494 [17:49] <bud> will look online,
#2495 [17:49] <bud> it may be that I will have to hardwire and login to ubuntu
#2496 [17:49] <bud> to get the proper wireless drivers for it
#2497 [17:49] <xales> M3cael: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1360
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#2499 [17:50] <bletch> i need help guys!!!
#2500 [17:50] <Kealper> xales: is there a package that just makes wireless drivers magically work on linux?
#2501 [17:50] <M3cael> xales: I've done that already
#2502 [17:50] <xales> Kealper: Not even close :|
#2503 [17:50] <Kealper> well, work on ubuntu
#2504 [17:50] <xales> Nope
#2505 [17:50] <Kealper> bah...
#2506 [17:50] <xales> It's usually a complicated and involved process if your drivers are too old to be supported by an existing package
#2507 [17:50] <M3cael> xales: This is what's in my Versions folder in the Java frameworks folder http://i.imgur.com/FcoI6.png
#2508 [17:51] <Kealper> bud: might have to check the driver manufacturer's site for nix drivers then :/
#2509 [17:51] <bud> go to the manufacturers site to download the drivers for that card. Then visit the Ubuntu forums for a step by step guide on how to use them
#2510 [17:51] <bud> someone asked the question
#2511 [17:51] <xales> M3cael: Have you messed with any settings at any point related to Java?
#2512 [17:51] <bletch> im on mac, and when i load up the minecraft launcher is says "updating minecraft" and then it says "done downloading" under it, and then it does nothing, i cant even play!!! please help!!!
#2513 [17:51] <bud> and got this answer
#2514 [17:51] <xales> ??> bletch mac/reinst
#2515 [17:51] <VoxelHead> bletch: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2516 [17:51] <VoxelHead> bletch: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2517 [17:51] <bud> so, I will get that, and hopefully catch ya before you get off XD
#2518 [17:51] <M3cael> xales: not knowingly.
#2519 [17:51] <Kealper> bud: but if you have access to a wired connection, you could just plug that in, go to minecraft.net and then check to make sure it even works before digging around
#2520 [17:52] <bud> ah kk
#2521 [17:52] <bud> ya better do that
#2522 [17:52] <bud> good idea XD
#2523 [17:52] <bud> kk well, brb, I will wireup and be back in here from there XD
#2524 [17:52] <M3cael> xales: Would deleting the Java folder and then running that update be good or bad idea?
#2525 [17:52] <Kealper> bud: ok lol
#2526 [17:52] <xales> M3cael: Probably very bad. I'd suggest taking it to a nearby Apple store, they can probably help with that more than we can
#2527 [17:53] * bud briefly waves in hopes that hardwiring will work lol X'X
#2527 [17:53] <M3cael> xales: Dang it.
#2528 [17:53] <bletch> thank you sooo much voxelhead it worked!!!
#2529 [17:53] <xales> ._.
#2530 [17:53] <xales> bletch: VoxelHead is a bot
#2531 [17:53] <bletch> ohhh, fail lol
#2532 [17:53] <Kealper> lol
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#2534 [17:53] <gPad2002> Gesundheit!
#2535 [17:54] * gPad2002 pokes GreyVulpine
#2535 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear
#2536 [17:54] <gPad2002> :P
#2537 [17:54] <bletch> then how did he know how to solve my problem?
#2538 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> bletch - It's programmed with responses of frequently asked questions
#2539 [17:54] <bletch> ohhh, ok
#2540 [17:54] <Kealper> 17:51:05 <@xales> ??> bletch mac/reinst
#2541 [17:54] <Kealper> lol
#2542 [17:54] <bletch> also, does anyone here run craftbukkit servers?
#2543 [17:55] <gPad2002> Yup
#2544 [17:55] <xales> Go to #bukkit for that
#2545 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Some do
#2546 [17:55] <gPad2002> Gotta love the bukkit
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#2548 [17:55] <lukegb> forums.bukkit.org is being hammered
#2549 [17:55] <bletch> thanks, cuz i need help cuz some of the plugins arent working? maybe they need updates
#2550 [17:55] <bletch> ?
#2551 [17:55] <lukegb> despite being written in java, ci.bukkit.org is still up! :D
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#2553 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Likely bletch, bukkit plugins need updating as well
#2554 [17:55] <gPad2002> lukegb: How the he'll are you pushing 70mbps?
#2555 [17:55] <gPad2002> Hell*
#2556 [17:56] <lukegb> I have no idea.
#2557 [17:56] <Kealper> wut
#2558 [17:56] <lukegb> gPad2002: note: that's ci.bukkit.org only
#2559 [17:56] <gPad2002> So what
#2560 [17:56] <gPad2002> That's incredible
#2561 [17:56] <lukegb> I think the server owner I'm piggy backing off for the Jenkins box will be slightly less amused.
#2562 [17:57] <gPad2002> True :P
#2563 [17:57] <lukegb> He may have slightly stronger adjectives for it :P
#2564 [17:57] <gPad2002> xD
#2565 [17:58] <Kealper> what are you two on about? lol
#2566 [17:58] <gPad2002> Oh, yknow
#2567 [17:58] <gPad2002> Stuff
#2568 [17:58] <lukegb> Kealper: ci.bukkit.org is pushing 70Mbps
#2569 [17:58] <M3cael> xales: thanks anyway!
#2570 [17:58] <Kealper> meh
#2571 [17:58] <gPad2002> Hey GreyVulpine
#2572 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2573 [17:58] <lukegb> I'm just watching iftop and marveling at the pretty barchart
#2574 [17:58] <gPad2002> Would a bot that tracks MC updates and can parse link titles be useful in here?
#2575 [17:58] <Kealper> lukegb: 70mbps in just http traffic?
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#2577 [17:59] <lukegb> Kealper: mhm
#2578 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> We've got.. so many freakin bots in here.
#2579 [17:59] <gPad2002> :P
#2580 [17:59] <Kealper> that's....decent..lol
#2581 [17:59] <lukegb> Kealper: try visiting it - it's as up as ever :P
#2582 [17:59] <lukegb> pretty sprightly imo
#2583 [17:59] <gPad2002> It already serves a half ton of channels
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#2585 [17:59] <gPad2002> One more couldn't hurt :P
#2586 [17:59] <Kealper> lukegb: yeah, just went to it....acted like nothing was even happening lol
#2587 [17:59] <bud> ok hardwiring worked
#2588 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> I'm |----| this close to booting all of them, if VoxelHead/Aubot were useful
#2589 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> weren't*
#2590 [17:59] <gPad2002> :P
#2591 [18:00] <Kealper> bud: minecraft working?
#2592 [18:00] <bud> Kealper: Now, do I download the regular .exe? or is it one of the other ones?
#2593 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> The whole.. stupid VoxelHead chat AI... so gets on my nerves some days.
#2594 [18:00] <bud> haven't downloaded yet
#2595 [18:00] <Kealper> bud: you'd download....(1 sec)
#2596 [18:00] <bud> wanna make sure to download the correct version for this O/S :P
#2597 [18:00] <Kealper> !client
#2598 [18:00] <Kealper> the one labeled For Linux
#2599 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Another bot in this channel, would so put me over the edge
#2600 [18:00] <gPad2002> The only thing mine ever says is an update to two related RSS feeds, if one of them breaks, or if someone posts a link at the start of a line
#2601 [18:00] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: that can be arranged
#2602 [18:00] * GreyVulpine glares at Kealper
#2602 [18:00] <Kealper> :P
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#2604 [18:01] <Kealper> lol
#2605 [18:01] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: tada :P
#2606 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Oh god, it's bukkingham
#2607 [18:01] <gPad2002> Lol, that bot
#2608 [18:01] <lukegb> MinerBot: part before GreyVulpine kills me
#2609 [18:01] <gPad2002> Brb, SSHing in
#2610 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#2611 [18:01] <bud> Kealp I am lost now lol
#2612 [18:01] <bud> ok
#2613 [18:01] * GreyVulpine stabs lukegb
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#2614 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Too late
#2615 [18:01] <Kealper> bah...dog wants something brb
#2616 [18:01] <bud> it came up with a chart with four folders and a java class file
#2617 [18:01] <xales> bud: you don't double click the download file
#2618 [18:02] <xales> right click on it and select 'run as' or whatever equivalent, and select 'Java (something)'
#2619 [18:02] <Kealper> ok back
#2620 [18:02] <bud> oooh kk
#2621 [18:02] <Kealper> yeah, what he said
#2622 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Honestly though, if you were planning to be here regularly, another bot wouldn't be "bad".. just would like somebody around in case it needs to be.. serviced
#2623 [18:02] <gPad2002> Here we go then
#2624 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Man that sounded wrong
#2625 [18:02] <Kealper> lol
#2626 [18:03] <Kealper> bot servicing...mmmm
#2627 [18:03] <gPad2002> Aaand
#2628 [18:03] <Kealper> what does minerbot even do?
#2629 [18:03] <bud> ok kealp I am a blonde guy
#2630 [18:03] <bud> what should I run as?
#2631 [18:03] <bud> and how do I find it on this OS?
#2632 [18:03] <gPad2002> It didn't join
#2633 [18:03] <gPad2002> Damn
#2634 [18:03] <bud> lol
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#2636 [18:03] <Kealper> bud: you downloaded it, right?
#2637 [18:04] <bud> its in my download bin
#2638 [18:04] <bud> from firefox
#2639 [18:04] <Kealper> (assuming yes, assuming the .jar)
#2640 [18:04] <Kealper> ok
#2641 [18:04] <bud> yes
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#2643 [18:04] <Kealper> right click on it
#2644 [18:04] <gPad2002> There it is
#2645 [18:04] <Kealper> it should give you the option to run it with Java
#2646 [18:04] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: If you ban it, don't ban the IP if you wouldn't mind
#2647 [18:04] <gPad2002> There's five users on that
#2648 [18:04] <bud> it doesn't
#2649 [18:04] <bud> did I need to download java on here before trying this? or
#2650 [18:04] <bud> is it java ready?
#2651 [18:05] <Kealper> ok then, just right click on the folder itself, without having anything selected..is there an option that says "open terminal" or whatever?
#2652 [18:05] <Kealper> java is already installed
#2653 [18:05] <bud> I get open, open containing folder, copy download link, and remove from list
#2654 [18:06] <Kealper> .....
#2655 [18:06] <Kealper> ugh lol
#2656 [18:06] <Kealper> select open containing folder lol
#2657 [18:06] <bud> ok now there is an icon with a box symbol
#2658 [18:06] <Kealper> that was just the downloads window, not the folder lol
#2659 [18:07] <bud> ok so use open with other application?
#2660 [18:07] <Kealper> yeah
#2661 [18:07] <Kealper> it should have a window that lets you open it with java
#2662 [18:07] * gPad2002 smells an old version of Windows
#2662 [18:07] <Kealper> gPad2002: ubuntu
#2663 [18:07] <bud> java is not on the list
#2664 [18:08] <gPad2002> Kealper: Oh right, yay!
#2665 [18:08] * VoxelHead is back
#2665 [18:08] * gPad2002 welcomes VoxelHead
#2665 [18:08] <VoxelHead> gadzooks
#2666 [18:08] <VoxelHead> i do love a good welcomesing
#2667 [18:08] <Kealper> bud: ok then...since i have no idea how to do this with ubuntu's fancy gui crap... right click on the folder, look for something called open terminal or similar
#2668 [18:08] <gPad2002> xD
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#2671 [18:09] <gPad2002> bud: Open a terminal window,
#2672 [18:09] <bud> the only two are open with archive viewer and open with other application
#2673 [18:09] <gPad2002> Copy the path to whatever it is you downloaded
#2674 [18:09] <Kealper> ._.
#2675 [18:09] <VoxelHead> I like them -_-
#2676 [18:09] <bud> what is a terminal window?
#2677 [18:09] <gPad2002> Type cd path/to/folder
#2678 [18:09] <gPad2002> Go to the applications menu
#2679 [18:09] <gPad2002> Its under system tools
#2680 [18:09] <Kealper> gPad2002: slower...he's never used it before
#2681 [18:09] <gPad2002> Kealper: Why is he on nix?
#2682 [18:10] <Kealper> bud: a terminal window is sort of like the command prompt in windows
#2683 [18:10] <Kealper> gPad2002: that'd be my doing
#2684 [18:10] <Kealper> lol
#2685 [18:10] <bud> ok have a terminal open
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#2687 [18:10] <gPad2002> bud: Type the following and hit enter
#2688 [18:10] <gPad2002> which java
#2689 [18:10] <Kealper> bud ok, type pwd and copy what it says into here
#2690 [18:10] <gPad2002> Kealper: Lol.
#2691 [18:11] * mib_r7tyn4 [mib_r7tyn4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2692 [18:11] <bud> ?
#2693 [18:11] <TorchDragon> don't type sudo rm -r /
#2694 [18:11] * Kealper kicked TorchDragon from #minecrafthelp (Reason: TorchDragon)
#2695 [18:11] <gPad2002> ^
#2696 [18:11] <bud> I typed pwd and it says /home/buddy
#2697 [18:11] <gPad2002> Good
#2698 [18:11] <VoxelHead> Goooooood.
#2699 [18:11] <gPad2002> Now type: which java
#2700 [18:11] <Kealper> VoxelHead: >.>
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#2702 [18:11] <gPad2002> What does it say?
#2703 [18:12] <VoxelHead> what?
#2704 [18:12] <TorchDragon> Sorry.
#2705 [18:12] <bud> it came back with nothing
#2706 [18:12] <mib_r7tyn4> i heard u can lure wolves with pork is that true and do i just throw it on the ground is that true?
#2707 [18:12] <gPad2002> Alright
#2708 [18:12] <Kealper> TorchDragon: big nono in this channel....many people might actually do it
#2709 [18:12] <bud> I was sposed to type "which java" without quotes rite?
#2710 [18:12] <gPad2002> You don't have java
#2711 [18:12] <gPad2002> Right
#2712 [18:12] <bud> ok so I need to go download java
#2713 [18:12] <TorchDragon> Well, I did say don't... but, you're right.
#2714 [18:12] <Kealper> bud: java -version
#2715 [18:12] <gPad2002> Nope
#2716 [18:12] <TorchDragon> My apologizes, that was really bad taste.
#2717 [18:13] <gPad2002> Kealper: He doesn't have java in a bash search folder
#2718 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_r7tyn4 - You can lure it, yes, but with right clicking the wolf with pork
#2719 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Not throwing it on the ground
#2720 [18:13] <Kealper> had you added the f, AuBot would have autokicked :/
#2721 [18:13] <gPad2002> Aka /bin, /usr/bin
#2722 [18:13] <gPad2002> Etc
#2723 [18:13] <bud> The program 'java' can be found in the following packages: * gcj-4.4-jre-headless * gcj-4.5-jre-headless * openjdk-6-jre-headless Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
#2724 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> The only way you can tame a wolf is with a bone
#2725 [18:13] <VoidGangsta> My debit and credit card (visa logo's) won't work with paypal or direct pay to buy minecraft, what's wrong?
#2726 [18:13] <gPad2002> Ok
#2727 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_r7tyn4 - For more info, check the wiki page: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wolf
#2728 [18:13] <TorchDragon> Does the client have any issues with OpenJDK or is it just the server?
#2729 [18:13] <Kealper> ugh...why does ubuntu suck so much now
#2730 [18:13] <mib_r7tyn4> kk ttyl
#2731 [18:13] <gPad2002> bud: Type the following: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre-headless
#2732 [18:14] <gPad2002> (Nobody said Oracle was the master race)
#2733 [18:14] <VoidGangsta> My debit and credit card (visa logo's) won't work with paypal or direct pay to buy minecraft, what's wrong?
#2734 [18:14] <Kealper> it will ask you if you want to install the selected package, just type Y and press enter
#2735 [18:14] <bud> it came up with
#2736 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> VoidGangsta - What do you mean it won't work? What error(s) is it giving you?
#2737 [18:14] <VoxelHead> The Lord of the Rings.
#2738 [18:14] <bud> [sudo] password for buddy:
#2739 [18:15] <bud> but it won't let me type my pass
#2740 [18:15] <VoidGangsta> for direct it says in red data and currency
#2741 [18:15] <Kealper> it is
#2742 [18:15] <Kealper> it just does not show it
#2743 [18:15] <Kealper> so press backspace a bunch of times, type your pass, and then press enter lol
#2744 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and in paypal VoidGangsta?
#2745 [18:15] <VoidGangsta> getting message hold on
#2746 [18:15] <bud> [sudo] password for buddy: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: ca-certificates-java icedtea-6-jre-cacao java-common openjdk-6-jre-lib tzdata tzdata-java Suggested packages: default-jre equivs sun-java6-fonts ttf-dejavu-extra ttf-sazanami-gothic
#2747 [18:15] <gPad2002> Y
#2748 [18:15] <gPad2002> Enter
#2749 [18:16] <VoidGangsta> Your credit or debit card has been declined for this transaction; PayPal could not validate the card. Please verify that the information you entered is correct, or try a different credit or debit card
#2750 [18:16] <bud> k downloading
#2751 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, sounds like an issue with the credit card issuer. You may need to give them a call VoidGangsta
#2752 [18:16] <gPad2002> VoidGangsta: They do that for every damn card in my house
#2753 [18:16] <Kealper> bud: after typing Y and pressing enter, loads of unimportant crap will fly by....ignore that, and when it stops doing stuff, it's done
#2754 [18:16] <VoidGangsta> my cards are just fine
#2755 [18:17] <bud> kk thanks :)
#2756 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Have you made a paypal transaction with those cards before?
#2757 [18:17] <VoxelHead> i might
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#2759 [18:17] <VoidGangsta> no
#2760 [18:17] <gPad2002> Brb
#2761 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Then either your bank/credit card issuer is declining the card, or paypal has an issue with those cards
#2762 [18:17] <VoidGangsta> paypal has an issue
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#2765 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> the minecraft CC application, I don't really put much faith in.
#2766 [18:18] <Trel> Whenever I try to launch minecraft from command line it says "Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit."
#2767 [18:18] <VoidGangsta> Why can't Notch make paying by phone available like runescape...
#2768 [18:18] <Trel> I'm using the command "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#2769 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Hah, right, people are going to call up sweden to pay for minecraft
#2770 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> I'd like to see the long distance charges for that
#2771 [18:18] <Kealper> VoidGangsta: that would be EXPENSIVE to call lol
#2772 [18:18] <Supa> Anyone else having issues with server after this new update?
#2773 [18:18] <VoidGangsta> Runescape place is is london
#2774 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Trel - You need to execute that command in the same place where you have the minecraft.jar
#2775 [18:19] <Trel> GreyVulpine: I am
#2776 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Supa - Nope, not if you're running vanilla.
#2777 [18:19] <bud> ok its done
#2778 [18:19] * VoxelHead kicked gPad2002 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: nick flood)
#2779 [18:19] * VoxelHead kicked McPlusPlus from #minecrafthelp (Reason: nick flood)
#2780 [18:19] <Supa> hmm :/
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#2782 [18:19] * VoxelHead kicked gPad2002 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
#2783 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Trel - Can you make sure?
#2784 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Bah!
#2785 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> I hate you too vox
#2786 [18:19] <Supa> i'm using bukkit, and it appears to be incompatible with the new update
#2787 [18:19] <bud> so I should be able to use java to open it now?
#2788 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Supa, you'll want to check out #bukkit
#2789 [18:20] <Kealper> i'm seriously about to make AuBot superban vox
#2790 [18:20] <VoidGangsta> GreyVulpine, how am I going to buy minecraft then, and btw why does it seem like 1.4 has shit loads of errors (in forums)
#2791 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> They have an early release out for 1.4 there
#2792 [18:20] <Supa> thanks
#2793 [18:20] <Trel> GreyVulpine: made sure, and defintiely am
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#2795 [18:20] * VoxelHead kicked gPad2002 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
#2796 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Trel - Hmm, what OS are you on?
#2797 [18:20] <TorchDragon> Also remember, Minecraft is not a finished game.
#2798 [18:20] <Trel> Windows XP
#2799 [18:20] <TorchDragon> Normally games hit a QA process then go back to developers to fix bugs.
#2800 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, windows doesn't have a problem with caps sensitivity.. um
#2801 [18:21] <TorchDragon> The current community is the QA process.
#2802 [18:21] * Kealper kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: VoxelHead)
#2803 [18:21] <bud> kealper, what is next? its finished
#2804 [18:21] * VoxelHead [VoxelHead@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2805 [18:21] <Kealper> ._.
#2806 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2807 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Trel - Could you perhaps try a batch file?
#2808 [18:21] <Kealper> bud: type java -version
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#2810 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Make sure the batch file is in the same location as the .jar file
#2811 [18:21] * VoxelHead kicked gPad2002 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
#2812 [18:21] * GreyVulpine kicks DopeGhoti
#2812 [18:22] <Kealper> i don't want that bot in here
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#2814 [18:22] <Trel> GreyVulpine: I only started using the command directly when the batch file DIDN'T work
#2815 [18:22] <Trel> java version "1.6.0_22"
#2816 [18:22] <Trel> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
#2817 [18:22] <ArmEagle> hmm i guess these fancy chests will just disappear after a day, cause I can't seem to break them doen
#2818 [18:22] <bud> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1) OpenJDK Client VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode, sharing
#2819 [18:22] <Kealper> bud: ok, java is now installed
#2820 [18:22] <Kealper> bud: try running the jar file now
#2821 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Oh.. seriously?
#2822 [18:23] <bud> use open with application?
#2823 [18:23] <Kealper> you can't keep it out
#2824 [18:23] * GreyVulpine grumbles
#2824 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Um
#2825 [18:23] <Kealper> the only way to get it out of here is to have a fucking admin kline it
#2826 [18:24] <Kealper> bud: yeah, select java
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#2828 [18:24] <Kealper> it should be in the list now
#2829 [18:24] <bud> :/ its not
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#2831 [18:24] <Kealper> ._.
#2832 [18:24] <bud> is there a cmd line to run the program?
#2833 [18:24] <Kealper> yes
#2834 [18:24] <bud> from the terminal?
#2835 [18:24] <VoxelHead> What the.
#2836 [18:25] <Kealper> java -jar minecraft.jar
#2837 [18:25] * rev-lemon yay 1.4 come out :)
#2837 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Oh BAH, dope registered voxelhead under his account
#2838 [18:25] <bud> Unable to acces jarfile minecraft.jar
#2839 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> That's why I don't see it in the AOP list
#2840 [18:25] <Remork> Hello guys, I got the message "Kicking 192.168.1.## You need to log in!" when trying to connect to my server. My friends too
#2841 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Remork, running start-server.bat?
#2842 [18:26] <Remork> yep
#2843 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes? That's the classic server, you're trying to log into it with beta
#2844 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Use the right server at
#2845 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> !server
#2846 [18:26] <Kealper> man this would be so much easier to help if i actually had a copy of ubuntu installed
#2847 [18:26] <Trel> GreyVulpine: anything else I can try?
#2848 [18:26] <VoxelHead> fuck your riddles, you gigantic mystic arsehole!
#2849 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Trel, sorry, one moment
#2850 [18:26] <Remork> ok thx a lot I'll try this
#2851 [18:26] <Kealper> bud: gimme a sec to start a vm of it
#2852 [18:27] <bud> kk
#2853 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Trel - Did you use the minecraft.jar from minecraft.net?
#2854 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Redownload a fresh copy, move it in its own new folder
#2855 [18:27] <Trel> I didn't upgrade to the one released today, but the one I have was from there.
#2856 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Then try the command again, making absolute sure you're "cd"ed into it
#2857 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft.jar is the launcher
#2858 [18:27] <Kealper> bud: in the terminal type cd downloads
#2859 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't contain any actual files
#2860 [18:28] * GreyVulpine kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 4*BAM*)
#2861 [18:28] <Kealper> well...it unbanned itself..but it's not rejoining...
#2862 [18:28] <bud> no such file or directory
#2863 [18:29] * VoxelHead [VoxelHead@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2864 [18:29] * GreyVulpine kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 4*BAM*)
#2865 [18:29] <Kealper> just take dope
#2866 [18:30] <Kealper> dope's account off aop for now and kickban it that way
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#2868 [18:30] <Kealper> when dope makes the bot not retarded...he can have aop back >.>
#2869 [18:30] <TorchDragon> No offense guys, but it looks like you're wrestling with an octopus.
#2870 [18:30] <Kealper> TorchDragon: that's what happens when a bot does not have it's own account on nickserv >.>
#2871 [18:30] <Kealper> and whne it's set to the stupidest settings ever
#2872 [18:30] <Kealper> when*
#2873 [18:30] <TorchDragon> Its part of a group?
#2874 [18:30] <Kealper> it's linked to DopeGhoti's account
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#2876 [18:31] <TorchDragon> :-) Awesome. Computers are fun.
#2877 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> So I can't take the bot off AOP, without kicking Dope off as well
#2878 [18:31] <bud> Kealper: bash: cd: downloads: No such file or directory
#2879 [18:31] <Trel> GreyVulpine: I removed java from my path, uninstalled, and reinstalled, it's working now
#2880 [18:31] <Kealper> bud: sorry lol, didn't notice that last time
#2881 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Oh, okay
#2882 [18:32] <Kealper> i really don't know then...without being on ubuntu itself....i tried on linux mint and it worked
#2883 [18:32] <bud> oh kk
#2884 [18:32] <Kealper> anyone here using ubuntu 10.10?
#2885 [18:32] <bud> brother, I think I just figured it out
#2886 [18:32] <bud> when using open with other application
#2887 [18:32] <bud> there was a space to type custom cmd to open
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#2889 [18:33] <o_o> Hm
#2890 [18:33] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#2890 [18:33] <o_o> It worked
#2891 [18:33] <bud> so I typed in the space java -jar
#2892 [18:33] <o_o> Dare I nick back?
#2893 [18:33] <bud> now when I right click
#2894 [18:33] <bud> it says open with java
#2895 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Voxelhead's not here right now
#2896 [18:33] * o_o glances at the op list
#2896 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> There we go
#2897 [18:34] <gPad2002> Lol.
#2898 [18:34] <gPad2002> Its unbanning itself?
#2899 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2900 [18:34] <gPad2002> xD
#2901 [18:34] <gPad2002> I have to lol at that :P
#2902 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Unforunately, with that, DopeGhoti's now perma-muted
#2903 [18:35] <gPad2002> Use a nickban
#2904 [18:35] <Kealper> it removes it
#2905 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> It'll unban itself
#2906 [18:35] <bud> Kealper I have it associated with java now, but it will not open, is there a way I need to set a javapath or anything?
#2907 [18:35] <bud> on here?
#2908 [18:35] <gPad2002> Its username is ~Voxelhead
#2909 [18:35] <Kealper> it will just keep removing bans that match it's stuff until it can get back in
#2910 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Oh, wait, I know what you're saying
#2911 [18:35] <gPad2002> So keep the auto you have and use that
#2912 [18:36] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: already tried that when i first did it
#2913 [18:36] <gPad2002> Kealper: I imagine its using /cs unban
#2914 [18:36] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: You could get the ircops to kill it
#2915 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Nah, I don't want to resort to that
#2916 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> For now.. this'll do.
#2917 [18:37] <gPad2002> :P
#2918 [18:37] <Kealper> gPad2002: killing it won't work, it will just rejoin the server
#2919 [18:37] <gPad2002> Kealper: Will it though?
#2920 [18:37] <gPad2002> Most bots won't.
#2921 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> I just need to script up a !disable command so Kealper or xales can disable my auto-banning script
#2922 [18:37] <Kealper> yeah, it will just assume it got DCed, and rejoin
#2923 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Need to run in a bit
#2924 [18:37] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: mIRC? :P
#2925 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2926 [18:37] <rev-lemon> anyone tryed the new wireless telecom system in minecraft ?
#2927 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Been using it for years and years
#2928 [18:38] <gPad2002> Same
#2929 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> It's what Greybot's scripted in as well
#2930 [18:38] <gPad2002> Didja buy it?
#2931 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> oh crap
#2932 [18:38] <gPad2002> Oh fail
#2933 [18:38] <Kealper> bud: sorry lol, getting distracted :P
#2934 [18:38] <gAwayPad2002> :P
#2935 [18:38] <bud> its ok... two things... well three
#2936 [18:38] <gAwayPad2002> Wait, that's not right
#2937 [18:38] <bud> I have it associated with java now
#2938 [18:38] <bud> it will not open
#2939 [18:38] <bud> there is a lock above the icon
#2940 [18:38] <o_o> There
#2941 [18:38] <o_o> That is correct
#2942 [18:39] <aetherian> o.o
#2943 [18:39] <Kealper> bud: oh....right click it, go to properties, there will probably be a Permissions tab or something like that, and then just look through there, and find an option to set it as executable
#2944 [18:39] <o_o> Lol everyone does that
#2945 [18:39] * o_o notes the bot isn't in here
#2945 [18:39] <o_o> McPlusPlus that is
#2946 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Bah, what's the command in mIRC to. uh..
#2947 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> dangit
#2948 [18:40] <o_o> Do what?
#2949 [18:40] * GreyVulpine looks it up
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#2951 [18:40] <aetherian> what's vox gotten into now?
#2952 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> You can set it up so you can disable a block of code
#2953 [18:40] <Kealper> aetherian: it's a power hungry POS
#2954 [18:40] <o_o> Nebenebe: You dont have to follow the bot everywhere
#2955 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> I can't remember what the command is anymore
#2956 [18:40] <o_o> :P
#2957 [18:40] * Nebenebe [Nebenebe@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2958 [18:40] <Kealper> wut
#2959 [18:40] <aetherian> um, pos. right.
#2960 [18:41] <o_o> GreyVulpine: Just use variables
#2961 [18:41] <Kealper> i take it you issued a join command in a channel? lol
#2962 [18:41] <o_o> Yeah
#2963 [18:41] <o_o> Lol
#2964 [18:41] <Kealper> lol
#2965 [18:41] <o_o> ~check MC-Updates
#2966 [18:41] <bud> it still has the lock :/ and it will not execute, does it need to be set to read and write? or read only?
#2967 [18:41] <o_o> ~check NotchB
#2968 [18:41] <o_o> Gah
#2969 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> One sec
#2970 [18:41] <o_o> ~check NotchBlog
#2971 [18:41] <o_o> Yup its good
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#2973 [18:42] <o_o> Hm
#2974 [18:42] <Kealper> bud: it should have read, write, and execute permissions
#2975 [18:42] * VoxelHead kicked McPlusPlus from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
#2976 [18:42] * VoxelHead kicked o_o from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: nick flood)
#2977 [18:42] <bud> on the permissions there is a checkbox for execute
#2978 [18:42] <bud> but in general or whatever, it has a dropdown with
#2979 [18:42] <Kealper> check that
#2980 [18:42] <bud> read only and read and write
#2981 [18:42] <Kealper> check the execute one
#2982 [18:43] <bud> I did, still not executing "/
#2983 [18:43] <bud> :/
#2984 [18:43] <Kealper> ._.
#2985 [18:43] * GreyVulpine kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 4*BAM*)
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#2988 [18:43] <Kealper> this is rediculous
#2989 [18:43] <Kealper> just take dope's account off AOP
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#2991 [18:43] <Kealper> when he fixes that stupid bot, he can get it back
#2992 [18:44] <AG_Scott> what is it doing? lol
#2993 [18:44] <Kealper> being completely stupid
#2994 [18:44] <Kealper> and i'm getting really mad
#2995 [18:44] * mr_flea [mr_flea@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2996 [18:44] <Kealper> mr_flea: was just about to head to #help to ask something
#2997 [18:45] <Kealper> how do i remove someone from AOP with this new flags thing?
#2998 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> !enable
#2999 [18:45] <AG_Scott> Kealper, /cs flags name -*
#3000 [18:45] <aetherian> so wait wait, vox turned evil?
#3001 [18:45] <o_o> mr_flea: See? :P
#3002 [18:45] <AG_Scott> well channel goes in there somewhere
#3003 [18:45] * McPlusPlus [McPlusPlus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3004 [18:45] <mr_flea> Kealper: what AG_Scott said
#3005 [18:46] <Kealper> uhh...is there a specific flag that lets people use /cs unban?
#3006 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> !enable
#3007 [18:46] <bud> I figured out one thing, but ran into another grrrr lol
#3008 [18:46] <VoidGangsta> BARK <(-'.'-)>
#3009 [18:46] <aetherian> blimey, something's happening here
#3010 [18:46] <mr_flea> just take all its flags away
#3011 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> !enable
#3012 [18:46] <aetherian> I knew that bot was up to no good...
#3013 [18:47] <aetherian> him saying he was taking over the world may have been my first clue :|
#3014 [18:47] <Kealper> mr_flea: i would, but the problem is that the bot is linked to DopeGhoti's account...and i don't want to remove all of Dope's flags...
#3015 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I'm just going to leave it like that
#3016 [18:47] <mr_flea> Kealper: you can give them back later, when the bot is fixed.
#3017 [18:47] <o_o> ^
#3018 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> I can't make groups work in mIRC anymore
#3019 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> So out of practice
#3020 [18:48] <o_o> GreyVulpine: They barely worked for me
#3021 [18:48] <o_o> Just check the nick
#3022 [18:48] <o_o> Its easier
#3023 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> They used to work great for me
#3024 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> It's alright
#3025 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Voxelhead will have to stay banned until I get back
#3026 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> so you could have just pinged me and I could have resolved this rather than having a huge botfight in #MinecraftHelp.
#3027 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> We did
#3028 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Fix your bot
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#3030 [18:48] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: we pinged you like a billion times
#3031 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> What needs fixing other than you having somehow managed to ban yourself?
#3032 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> odd, irssi didn't show #MinecraftHelp as having called me
#3033 [18:49] <o_o> DopeGhoti: The nick flood banner
#3034 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> No, voxelhead's being naughty about it's nick flood script
#3035 [18:49] <o_o> And the ban on my hostname
#3036 [18:49] <Kealper> and if it gets banned from the channel...it should stay out of the channel
#3037 [18:49] <bud> Kealper: just out of curiosity, and I know I am probably getting annoying, but is there a way to set a javapath, I figured out that I needed to
#3038 [18:49] <bud> extract it
#3039 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> But I really have to go.
#3040 [18:49] <bud> but now, when I try to open with java, nothing happens
#3041 [18:49] <Kealper> bud: that is all done by default in linux
#3042 [18:49] <bud> and if I just double click it opens by a folder
#3043 [18:49] <o_o> TestDummy: However, as MOTDs will tell you, bots have to follow the same rules as users do.
#3044 [18:49] <o_o> ^
#3045 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> I have removed the associated ban from nickflooding
#3046 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Also, unbanning itself?
#3047 [18:50] <Kealper> it should never, ever try to unban itself and rejoin
#3048 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> We don't have access to the bot, so when it does act up again.
#3049 [18:50] <Kealper> 
#3050 [18:50] <Kealper> fail
#3051 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> I will make it not do this anymore.
#3052 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> We'd like to be able to make it leave
#3053 [18:50] <Nerran> does anyone have an idea what's causing this http://i.imgur.com/CNFz4.png ? Got that after MC crashed and i restarted it
#3054 [18:51] <Nerran> even a new install / reboot wont help o_O
#3055 [18:51] <Nerran> a) I got rain?! b) the camera is like 5 blocks shifted to the right
#3056 [18:51] <Nerran> while still rotating around the player...
#3057 [18:51] <Kealper> for future reference: /cs flags #minecrafthelp accountname -r
#3058 [18:52] <bud> :/
#3059 [18:52] * o_o hears doom
#3059 [18:52] <Kealper> r is apparently the flag for kicking, banning, and unbanning
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#3062 [18:53] <o_o> Hmm?
#3063 [18:53] <o_o> Do I get to live?
#3064 [18:53] <Kealper> so it seems
#3065 [18:54] <Kealper> aetherian: you're on ubuntu, right?
#3066 [18:54] * gPad2002 hopes he lives
#3066 [18:54] <Kealper> nickflood protection is great and all...but we don't ever have nickfloods in this channel
#3067 [18:54] <VoxelHead> Great, now how am i going to kickban people who i hate (e.g. dopeghoti)?
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#3069 [18:55] <gPad2002> Nickfloods aren't a problem bots need to solve
#3070 [18:55] <gPad2002> The server does that.
#3071 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> for now, if you get into a banfight, just deop VoxelHead
#3072 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> so that you can still consult FAQs while it's being uppity
#3073 [18:56] * Kealper grumbles
#3073 [18:56] <gPad2002> :P
#3074 [18:57] <gPad2002> DopeGhoti: You might want to consider modifying its banmask
#3075 [18:57] <gPad2002> It bans the IP straight out, and that ended up banning around ten people
#3076 [18:57] <gPad2002> (bouncer)
#3077 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Duly noted.
#3078 [18:57] <bud> Kealper, when I extracted, it extracted as a folder, and it will not allow to click execute in properties
#3079 [18:57] * DopeGhoti makes a note to implement that change
#3079 [18:57] * gPad2002 nods
#3079 [18:57] <Kealper> bud: you're not supposed to extract the jar :/
#3080 [18:57] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: do you use ubuntu?
#3081 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> I do
#3082 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> among other distibutions
#3083 [18:58] <gPad2002> He has openjdk because its easier to install
#3084 [18:58] <Kealper> bud is using ubuntu right now, he's new to linux, and needs to set minecraft.jar as executable
#3085 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> chmod u+x /path/to/the/minecraft.jar
#3086 [18:59] <gPad2002> Kealper: You don't need to do that..
#3087 [18:59] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: without using the terminal....lol
#3088 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> gPad2002: if you want to double-click a desktop icon to run it, you do
#3089 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: left-alt+F2, then type the chmod command :p
#3090 [18:59] <Kealper> O.o
#3091 [19:00] <Kealper> what's that do? lol
#3092 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> I have never changed permissions in the GUI, so I have no idea what to call the checkboxes
#3093 [19:00] <gPad2002> Run command..
#3094 [19:00] <aetherian> huh wha
#3095 [19:00] <aetherian> oh kealper, techically
#3096 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> left-alt-F2 brings up a "run this" dialog; compare win+R in Windows
#3097 [19:00] <aetherian> *technically
#3098 [19:00] <aetherian> why
#3099 [19:00] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: that's my issue right now too...i can't tell him what to click because i haven't used ubuntu in a few years :/
#3100 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: so have him run Terminal
#3101 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> and run the one command; it doens't even need sudo
#3102 [19:00] <aetherian> why, kells
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#3104 [19:00] <Kealper> i don't know where the file is....lol
#3105 [19:01] <VoxelHead> Mmm PatSter21.
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#3107 [19:01] <Kealper> or how to get a terminal window open in the same directory as the file
#3108 [19:01] <Thoatt|Sleep> herp lol
#3109 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: is the file in the desktop?
#3110 [19:01] <aetherian> some DEs have right click open terminal here...?
#3111 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> open terminal, `cd ~/Desktop`
#3112 [19:01] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: in firefox's downloads folder..whereever that is
#3113 [19:01] <bud> so what do I do? lol I am a blonde
#3114 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> that'd probably be ~/Downloads
#3115 [19:01] <rev-lemon> hahahha creepers no longer look up lol
#3116 [19:02] <VoxelHead> i like them ^_^
#3117 [19:02] <aetherian> whatever.
#3118 [19:02] <Kealper> bud: type cd ~/Downloads into a terminal window
#3119 [19:03] <Kealper> mind the capital D, too
#3120 [19:03] <bud> buddy@ubuntu:~$ cd ~/Downloads buddy@ubuntu:~/Downloads$
#3121 [19:04] <Kealper> ok
#3122 [19:04] <Kealper> type java -jar minecraft.jar
#3123 [19:04] <Kealper> press enter
#3124 [19:04] <bud> Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#3125 [19:04] <aetherian> oh, is his question just how to launch it?
#3126 [19:04] <gPad2002> bud: Is it in there?
#3127 [19:05] <gPad2002> Do la
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#3129 [19:05] <Kealper> yeah....hmm...type ls
#3130 [19:05] <gPad2002> not la
#3131 [19:05] <gPad2002> ls
#3132 [19:05] <bud> when I typed the second command it says Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#3133 [19:05] <gPad2002> Type ls
#3134 [19:05] <gPad2002> Is minecraft.jar there?
#3135 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> bud: When you downloaded the file with Firefox; where did you save it to?
#3136 [19:06] <mitpatterson> hey, i just downloaded the latest jar, and replaced my old .jar(on linux, and i'm am getting this(this is just a partial as not to flood the chat): at bg.run(SourceFile:375)
#3137 [19:06] <mitpatterson> Wrong location! do@104e
#3138 [19:06] <mitpatterson> java.l
#3139 [19:06] <aetherian> could it be in /tmp ?
#3140 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> unlikely
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#3142 [19:06] <Kealper> mitpatterson: owned
#3143 [19:06] <bud> it was in the downloads section
#3144 [19:06] <gPad2002> mitpatterson: Pastebin
#3145 [19:06] <Kealper> mitpatterson: http://pastebin.com
#3146 [19:06] <mitpatterson> i know
#3147 [19:06] <bud> I opened containing folder
#3148 [19:06] <bud> and dragged it to the desktop
#3149 [19:06] <mitpatterson> i only put a few lines, was a bit too much
#3150 [19:06] <gPad2002> Oh
#3151 [19:06] <Kealper> oh
#3152 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> ah
#3153 [19:06] <aetherian> ah
#3154 [19:06] <Kealper> gosh lol
#3155 [19:06] <mitpatterson> so anyone know what to do?
#3156 [19:06] <gPad2002> cd ~/Desktop
#3157 [19:06] <aetherian> cd ~/Desktop
#3158 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> okay, so inthe terminal, `cd ~/Desktop`
#3159 [19:06] <VoxelHead> SNAP
#3160 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> all together now
#3161 [19:06] <Kealper> XD
#3162 [19:07] <aetherian> haha
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#3164 [19:07] <gPad2002> aetherian: Hivemind
#3165 [19:07] <VoxelHead> Be quiet.
#3166 [19:07] <gPad2002> :P
#3167 [19:07] <mitpatterson> lol
#3168 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: you be quiet
#3169 [19:07] <aetherian> comic relief interlude :D
#3170 [19:07] <bud> ok how do I get out of the downloads thing first?
#3171 [19:07] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: btw, that wasn't me that requested the see thing
#3172 [19:07] <Kealper> no idea who wanted it
#3173 [19:07] <gPad2002> bud: cd ~/Desktop
#3174 [19:07] * DopeGhoti knows someone did; I thought it was you or Xales, but it's moot now, as it's gone.
#3174 [19:07] <aetherian> bud: in terminal, type 'cd ~/Desktop'
#3175 [19:07] <bud> ok got it sry guys
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#3177 [19:08] <bro> any1 know how to fix minecraft when it says "Could not create the Java Virtual Machine"?
#3178 [19:08] <bud> its up with ~Desktop$
#3179 [19:08] <Kealper> bro: has it worked before?
#3180 [19:08] <gPad2002> bro: Reinstall java?
#3181 [19:08] <Kealper> bud: ok, now type java -jar minecraft.jar lol
#3182 [19:08] <gPad2002> bud: java -jar minecraft.jar
#3183 [19:08] <gPad2002> Ninja'd
#3184 [19:08] <aetherian> and as a note
#3185 [19:08] <mitpatterson> ok, here is more of the error i'm gettting: http://pastebin.com/PzN2KcDF Ideas?
#3186 [19:08] <Kealper> we're all ninja'ing eachother right now lol
#3187 [19:09] <gPad2002> Lol
#3188 [19:09] <bud> http://mibpaste.com/utUMic
#3189 [19:09] <McPlusPlus> "Mibpaste.bin" at mibpaste.com
#3190 [19:09] <aetherian> you may find it useful to on your desktop make a file and name it "minecraft.sh" (or whatevername.sh)
#3191 [19:09] <Kealper> mitpatterson: uhh....the whole error would be nice
#3192 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> ohgos
#3193 [19:09] <gPad2002> Sigh
#3194 [19:09] <gPad2002> Ok
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#3196 [19:09] <gPad2002> We need real java
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#3198 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> McPlusPlus: please never never recommend that pitiful excuse for a pastebin
#3199 [19:09] <Kealper> i think that's a bot
#3200 [19:09] <aetherian> and inside, type "cd ~/Desktop" newline "java -jar minecraft.jar"
#3201 [19:09] <Kealper> lemme checl
#3202 [19:09] <gPad2002> DopeGhoti: That's my bot larding the title
#3203 [19:09] <mitpatterson> that should be it kealper, the console is repeating it, so i think its just a part of it
#3204 [19:09] <gPad2002> Parsing*
#3205 [19:09] <aetherian> that way you can double click to launch
#3206 [19:10] <Kealper> http://blog.kealper.com <-- don't click that, checking something
#3207 [19:10] <McPlusPlus> "Kealper's Randomness" at blog.kealper.com
#3208 [19:10] <Kealper> thought so
#3209 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> ah
#3210 [19:10] * aetherian clicks it
#3210 [19:10] <gPad2002> Indeed
#3211 [19:10] <gPad2002> Its my one :P
#3212 [19:10] <Kealper> i thought of adding something like that to aubot lol
#3213 [19:10] <Dark_Fox_> You guys think a minecraft server for two or three people will run on a single core 1.66GHz 64bit processor with 3GB RAM?
#3214 [19:10] <gPad2002> Which reminds me
#3215 [19:10] <bro> sorry i didnt catch how to fix error "Could not create the Java virtual machine"
#3216 [19:10] <VoxelHead> i promise to be good and well-behaved with my new op superpowers
#3217 [19:10] <bud> so what am I sposed to do now?
#3218 [19:10] <Kealper> Dark_Fox_: yeah
#3219 [19:10] <VoxelHead> \kick Dopeghoti
#3220 [19:10] <VoxelHead> doh!
#3221 [19:10] <Kealper> XD
#3222 [19:10] <Dark_Fox_> Kealper: Sweet, thanks.
#3223 [19:10] <aetherian> Dark_Fox_: I think so...
#3224 [19:10] <gPad2002> Is this channel +C or c?
#3225 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#3226 [19:11] <aetherian> oh
#3227 [19:11] <aetherian> right
#3228 [19:11] <mitpatterson> Kealper here is as much as i could copy from putty: http://pastebin.com/uqqW73tx
#3229 [19:11] <bud> I am lost again
#3230 [19:11] <Kaikz> gPad2002: +c
#3231 [19:11] <gPad2002> Damn
#3232 [19:11] <aetherian> putty o.o
#3233 [19:11] <mitpatterson> and it keeps spamming the console with it
#3234 [19:11] <gPad2002> Then bot will break :P
#3235 [19:11] <Dark_Fox_> Well, right now the box has 1GB of RAM in it and the CPU started maxing out. I ordered more RAM but I was just worried whether or not Minecraft is more RAM or CPU hungry
#3236 [19:11] <Kealper> mitpatterson: server?
#3237 [19:11] <mitpatterson> yah
#3238 [19:11] <gPad2002> Dark_Fox_: Both.
#3239 [19:11] <VoxelHead> Mmm Oerg866_
#3240 [19:11] <Kealper> mitpatterson: have you tried restarting the mc server process?
#3241 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Dark_Fox_: Minecraft allocated 1GB for itself on startup
#3242 [19:11] <mitpatterson> wow, its really spamming it now, lol
#3243 [19:11] <mitpatterson> mc server process?
#3244 [19:12] <mitpatterson> its on ubuntu server(no gui)
#3245 [19:12] <bud> did you guys get my pastebin?
#3246 [19:12] <Kealper> actually
#3247 [19:12] <mitpatterson> would restarting the whole server fix it/
#3248 [19:12] <gPad2002> bud: Reinstall java
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#3250 [19:12] <gPad2002> After that I have no idea
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#3252 [19:12] <bud> how do I do that, I don't remember, this is all foreign to me
#3253 [19:12] <Kealper> mitpatterson: stop your mc server, rename the world folder to world1, start the server...see if it still does it
#3254 [19:12] <Dark_Fox_> DopeGhoti: I see. I'm thinking that once the RAM got maxed out the CPU started eating itself and went past 60% usage when it was idle
#3255 [19:12] <mitpatterson> ummm, no clue how to do that stuff
#3256 [19:12] <gPad2002> Same way you installed it
#3257 [19:13] <bro> any1 know how to fix "Could not create the Java virtual machine"?
#3258 [19:13] <bud> I don't remember, it was all the cmds I had to type into terminal to install it
#3259 [19:13] <bud> :/
#3260 [19:13] <Kealper> gPad2002: you had him install the headless openjdk
#3261 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> Dark_Fox_: well, once RAM is exhausted, you go into swap, which grinds the hard drive and thusly often the CPU
#3262 [19:13] <VoxelHead> openjdkless head
#3263 [19:13] <gPad2002> Oh right
#3264 [19:13] <gPad2002> Uh
#3265 [19:13] <gPad2002> Download it from sun.com
#3266 [19:13] <bud> kk
#3267 [19:13] <Kealper> headless jdk doesn't come with javaw
#3268 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> bud java/linux/debian
#3269 [19:13] <Dark_Fox_> DopeGhoti: Yeah, but I was using the "top" command at the time and it didn't show any swap usage.
#3270 [19:13] <VoxelHead> bud: (java/linux/debian) While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#3271 [19:13] <VoxelHead> bud: (java/linux/debian) To install it, `sudo apt-get sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#3272 [19:13] <aetherian> oh god oh god oh god kealper
#3273 [19:13] <Dark_Fox_> So I'm not sure what it was doing.
#3274 [19:13] <mitpatterson> Kealper, should i just restart the server and check?
#3275 [19:13] <mitpatterson> to see if that fixes it
#3276 [19:14] <Kealper> mitpatterson: you could
#3277 [19:14] <aetherian> evil evil
#3278 [19:14] <Kealper> aetherian: O.o
#3279 [19:14] <mitpatterson> rebooting
#3280 [19:14] <bro> any1 know how to fix "Could not create the Java virtual machine"?
#3281 [19:14] <aetherian> on your about page, you practically recommend mibbit
#3282 [19:14] <Kealper> aetherian: i suggested that to him because 90% sure his map is screwed up
#3283 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> bro: what OS? What version of Java?
#3284 [19:14] <Kealper> oh
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#3286 [19:14] <mitpatterson> bro stop spamming that
#3287 [19:14] <Kealper> i do?
#3288 [19:14] <Kealper> lol
#3289 [19:14] <gPad2002> bro: Reinstall java? Nobody knows much.
#3290 [19:14] <bro> most recent version of java on Windows 7
#3291 [19:14] <mitpatterson> Kealper i was able to connect to the server and the map seemed fine, but just have no clue about all the errors
#3292 [19:15] <bro> i have reinstalled alot wont work'
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#3294 [19:15] <Kealper> bro: has minecraft ever worked before?
#3295 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> define "most recent". When I ask "what version", I'm looking for a version desciptor, not a set of adjectives
#3296 [19:15] <bro> yeh in like november
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#3298 [19:15] <bro> version 6 update 24
#3299 [19:15] <Chanito> Hey guys, im trying to remove newly joined players from builder or destroying blocks, is there anyway to do that?
#3300 [19:16] <May0> did minecraft update?
#3301 [19:16] <Kealper> mitpatterson: indeed
#3302 [19:16] <Kealper> whoops
#3303 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> Chanito: not without mods. May0: Yes.
#3304 [19:16] <VoxelHead> where's my moose
#3305 [19:16] <Kealper> May0: indeed
#3306 [19:16] <gPad2002> May0: ~check MC-Updates
#3307 [19:16] <Dark_Fox_> Delicious 1.4 today
#3308 [19:16] <gPad2002> But yes
#3309 [19:16] <bud> voxelhead I typed that cmd in and got this in return E: Invalid operation sun-java6-jre
#3310 [19:16] <mitpatterson> ok Kealper restarted, still able to connect, but as soon as I did, it it nos spamming the console so fast i can't read all the number it is changing
#3311 [19:16] <Kealper> VoxelHead: fumigating
#3312 [19:16] <Zemedelphos> Vox your moose is gone.
#3313 [19:16] <Chanito> #bukkit
#3314 [19:16] <May0> gPad: where is it?
#3315 [19:16] <May0> i couldnt find it
#3316 [19:16] <gPad2002> Type that
#3317 [19:16] <gPad2002> ~check MC-Updates
#3318 [19:16] <May0> ahh ok
#3319 [19:17] <Kealper> mitpatterson: stop server, rename world folder to world1, start server
#3320 [19:17] <gPad2002> Version history
#3321 [19:17] <May0> ~check MC-Updates
#3322 [19:17] <Kealper> mitpatterson: your map is probably corrupt
#3323 [19:17] <gPad2002> It should update your client automatically
#3324 [19:17] <mitpatterson> Kealper, some help with those commands? will the map be lost?
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#3326 [19:17] <May0> i updated it, is there an update log?
#3327 [19:17] <mitpatterson> lol, just got this: 2011-03-31 19:17:11 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#3328 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> ?? normal
#3329 [19:17] <gPad2002> Yees, on uh
#3330 [19:17] <Kealper> mitpatterson: that is quite normal
#3331 [19:17] <VoxelHead> normal: That message is perfectly normal, and happens all the time. However, if the console is spamming it or it occurs very frequently, then it is indicating that the machine is not powerful enough to run the server.
#3332 [19:18] <Thoatt> well damn... lol
#3333 [19:18] <gPad2002> http://mcupdates.tumblr.com I think
#3334 [19:18] <McPlusPlus> "MineCraft Update" at mcupdates.tumblr.com
#3335 [19:18] <gPad2002> Yup
#3336 [19:18] <May0> gPad: thanks
#3337 [19:18] <Thoatt> I was working on a pretty elaborate house on his server...
#3338 [19:18] <gPad2002> Yw
#3339 [19:18] <Kealper> Thoatt: eh?
#3340 [19:18] <mitpatterson> well anyways, how do i do that mapp stuff you where talking about Kealper? like commands? and will i loose the map?
#3341 [19:18] <bud> which version of java to download from the site? I have 64 bit but there are four versions for linux :/
#3342 [19:18] <Thoatt> Kealper: on mitpatterson's server, I have a pretty intense house
#3343 [19:19] <gPad2002> bud: The .bin
#3344 [19:19] <Thoatt> mitpatterson:
#3345 [19:19] <Thoatt> I can help
#3346 [19:19] <Kealper> what i said will not make your map go away, it just renames the map to something else so the server does not load it
#3347 [19:19] <VoxelHead> Bye may0.
#3348 [19:19] <mitpatterson> k
#3349 [19:19] <gPad2002> Or is it .run?
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#3351 [19:19] <Kealper> and i need to get away from irc....too much other crap to do
#3352 [19:19] <mitpatterson> Kealper(or Thoatt ) i need help with commands to do so, i'm a complete linux NOOB
#3353 [19:19] <Thoatt> cd to the directory, then mv world world1
#3354 [19:19] <gPad2002> mitpatterson: mv source destination
#3355 [19:19] <bud> http://mibpaste.com/XGmaFn
#3356 [19:19] <McPlusPlus> "Mibpaste.bin" at mibpaste.com
#3357 [19:20] <Thoatt> after shutting down the server
#3358 [19:20] <mitpatterson> how do i shut it down?
#3359 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> bud: you're using ubuntu, so get the one ending in .deb
#3360 [19:20] <Thoatt> just kill the process lol
#3361 [19:20] <mitpatterson> how?
#3362 [19:20] <Thoatt> ps -u
#3363 [19:20] <mitpatterson> i don't have a gui
#3364 [19:20] <gPad2002> bud: Linux x64 *
#3365 [19:20] <bud> kk
#3366 [19:20] <Thoatt> find the process id, then kill [pid]
#3367 [19:20] <gPad2002> DopeGhoti: There's no .deb
#3368 [19:20] <mitpatterson> k, killed it
#3369 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> gPad2002: then he should use the one in the repositories
#3370 [19:20] <mitpatterson> next step?
#3371 [19:20] <Thoatt> k now, cd to the folder
#3372 [19:21] <Thoatt> then mv world world1
#3373 [19:21] * VoxelHead is away: food
#3373 [19:21] <mitpatterson> what folder?
#3374 [19:21] <gPad2002> DopeGhoti: There isn't a sun java in his repo for some reason
#3375 [19:21] <Thoatt> your minecraft serfver folder
#3376 [19:21] <mitpatterson> the one the .jar is in?
#3377 [19:21] <Thoatt> yes
#3378 [19:21] <mitpatterson> its just in my "/mitch/home
#3379 [19:21] <mitpatterson> which is where i'm at
#3380 [19:21] <Thoatt> so, ls, do you see the world folder?
#3381 [19:21] <mitpatterson> ls
#3382 [19:21] <mitpatterson> yah
#3383 [19:21] <Thoatt> ok
#3384 [19:22] <Thoatt> mv world world1
#3385 [19:22] <mitpatterson> so mv the folder to world1 right(renaming it baisically)
#3386 [19:22] <bud> which application do I choose to download it from? it needs an application association to run the download
#3387 [19:22] <Thoatt> yeah
#3388 [19:22] <mitpatterson> ok, now what?
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#3390 [19:22] <Thoatt> now start up the server and see if you have any issues
#3391 [19:22] <gPad2002> bud: No just save it
#3392 [19:22] <Thoatt> it'll generate a new map, but keep the old one.
#3393 [19:22] <mitpatterson> k
#3394 [19:22] <gPad2002> Remember where you save it, too
#3395 [19:23] <gPad2002> And what its called
#3396 [19:23] <mitpatterson> i'll have to connect(i'll do it) as until anyone connects it doesn't seem to spam
#3397 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> bud: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-install-java-jre-and-java-plugin.html
#3398 [19:23] <mitpatterson> Thoatt, hasn't started spamming
#3399 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> ??+ java/linux/ubuntu|To install the Oracle JRE environment in recent editions of Ubuntu, follow the guide here:;;http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-install-java-jre-and-java-plugin.html
#3400 [19:27] <bud> ok its unpacking now
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#3403 [19:32] <bud> ok it came up with a blue screen when it finished
#3404 [19:33] <bud> http://mibpaste.com/aWuUh3
#3405 [19:33] <McPlusPlus> "Mibpaste.bin" at mibpaste.com
#3406 [19:33] <bud> what do I do now?
#3407 [19:35] * dwagdawg [dwagdawg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3408 [19:35] <dwagdawg> Hi
#3409 [19:35] <dwagdawg> Can someone help me
#3410 [19:35] <dwagdawg> ?????/
#3411 [19:35] <dwagdawg> I am trying to start a server for me and my frined
#3412 [19:36] <dwagdawg> And i can connect to it with localhost and my ip
#3413 [19:36] <dwagdawg> But when he trys to connect he gets connection timed out
#3414 [19:37] <gOne2002> DopeGhoti: Got an FAQ for port forwarding?
#3415 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> I'm not sure if that's been done yet; see ??< index
#3416 [19:37] <bud> how do I accept the agreement on the blue screen? I am lost, and don't know anything about this
#3417 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> bud: tab.
#3418 [19:38] <dwagdawg> I port forwarded correctly
#3419 [19:38] <dwagdawg> I am 100% shure i port forwarded correctly
#3420 [19:38] <dwagdawg> do i do range port forwarding
#3421 [19:38] <bud> will I need to get rid of the other thing I did earlier? or should I be able to run minecraft now?
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#3423 [19:39] <Joshua_F> Hosting a server, and a few friends are on. But we're not like synced.
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#3425 [19:41] <bud> ok now that thats done, how do I associate java to the .jar file?
#3426 [19:41] <bud> nvm got it running
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#3428 [19:41] <dwagdawg> So does anyone have any ideas
#3429 [19:42] <dwagdawg> Everyone just times out for me
#3430 [19:43] <TorchDragon> pm me your server ip?
#3431 [19:43] <TorchDragon> I'll try to connect
#3432 [19:44] <TorchDragon> Other than that, time out or port refused is a forwarding issue.
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#3435 [19:47] <budd> ok guess what, all the bugs are gone with Ubuntu
#3436 [19:48] <budd> I just need you guys genius for one more thing and i promise you I will be out of you guys hair for a long while....
#3437 [19:50] <TorchDragon> What's up?
#3438 [19:51] <budd> how do i get the wireless firmware for ubuntu?
#3439 [19:51] <TorchDragon> :-) Of course, the one thing I have 0 experience with.
#3440 [19:52] <TorchDragon> Do you know what your wireless hardware is?
#3441 [19:53] <lyude> budd
#3442 [19:53] <lyude> Better question is
#3443 [19:53] <lyude> What hardware are you running
#3444 [19:53] <lyude> The firmware is not the same along every single wireless adaptor
#3445 [19:53] * bud [bud@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3446 [19:53] <lyude> :P
#3447 [19:53] <lyude> bud
#3448 [19:53] <bud> just ran into another issue
#3449 [19:53] <lyude> We need your hardware
#3450 [19:54] <lyude> The firmware is not the same along every single wireless adaptor
#3451 [19:54] <SkiingPenguins> budd = bud?
#3452 [19:54] <lyude> Yeah
#3453 [19:54] <bud> ya
#3454 [19:54] <lyude> Both from the same IP
#3455 [19:54] <bud> ok so I have a Motorola router
#3456 [19:54] <lyude> no
#3457 [19:54] <lyude> urdoinitwrong
#3458 [19:54] <lyude> I meant
#3459 [19:54] <lyude> Wireless adaptor
#3460 [19:54] <lyude> The wireless firmware is for the adaptor
#3461 [19:54] <bud> oh, how would I figure that out?
#3462 [19:54] <SkiingPenguins> the thingy in your computer that connects to said router
#3463 [19:54] <lyude> errr
#3464 [19:55] <lyude> That I'm not sure of... I forget the command
#3465 [19:55] <lyude> I think it's ifconfig -a?
#3466 [19:55] <lyude> nbo
#3467 [19:55] <bud> can I do that from ubuntu?
#3468 [19:55] <lyude> Lemme google
#3469 [19:55] <lyude> Yeah, ubuntu is linux based
#3470 [19:55] <lyude> Linux loves bash shells
#3471 [19:55] <SkiingPenguins> probably in the gui's somewhere right? :P
#3472 [19:55] <AG_Scott> Ubuntu is a linux distribution.
#3473 [19:55] <AG_Scott> You make it sound like it's a fork.
#3474 [19:55] <lyude> *distro
#3475 [19:55] <lyude> Yeah
#3476 [19:55] <lyude> Sorry
#3477 [19:56] <bud> http://mibpaste.com/SoEdDo
#3478 [19:56] <McPlusPlus> "Mibpaste.bin" at mibpaste.com
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#3480 [19:56] <NinjaKirby> Anyone know the dimensions of the Wolf? Like 1x1 Block they can fit through?
#3481 [19:56] <SkiingPenguins> hehehe
#3482 [19:56] <lyude> I swear to fucking god, if I get another god damn ban for this stupid crap
#3483 [19:56] <Kealper> stop typing so fast then
#3484 [19:56] <lyude> o-O
#3485 [19:56] <Kealper> or type with more than one word per line :/
#3486 [19:56] <lyude> Yeah
#3487 [19:56] <lyude> That would probably be a good idea :u
#3488 [19:56] <SkiingPenguins> use complete sentences on one line :D makes things easier to read
#3489 [19:56] <lyude> Gimme a minute bud, my internet's being a dick
#3490 [19:57] <bud> kk
#3491 [19:57] <lyude> lspci -v | less
#3492 [19:57] <lyude> Enter that into a terminal
#3493 [19:57] * josh [josh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3494 [19:57] <lyude> Then scroll down until you find the card
#3495 [19:58] <josh> I have a question about starting minecraft in Fedora 14 if anyone has used it on F14 before :)
#3496 [19:58] <lyude> Hm?
#3497 [19:59] <bud> http://mibpaste.com/TJObxC
#3498 [19:59] <McPlusPlus> "Mibpaste.bin" at mibpaste.com
#3499 [19:59] <lyude> What would the question be?
#3500 [19:59] <bud> Kealp the bug is gone.... :) but I have another wierd issue, you might know about
#3501 [19:59] <josh> I have downloaded it but it won't allow me to play offline.
#3502 [19:59] <lyude> I don't think any of those are it
#3503 [19:59] <lyude> Just copypasta the entire output
#3504 [19:59] <bud> I run it, and like ten seconds later my my computer shuts off
#3505 [20:00] <lyude> Josh, what happens when you try to play offline?
#3506 [20:00] <josh> and says I haven't downloaded the offline version
#3507 [20:00] <lyude> o_O
#3508 [20:00] <josh> ya????
#3509 [20:00] <lyude> Lemme update the craft of the mine and see if it happens on arch
#3510 [20:00] <bud> thats all that it brings up when typing that cmd
#3511 [20:01] <lyude> ah
#3512 [20:01] <lyude> Lemme check the arch wiki then
#3513 [20:01] <lyude> They'll have a better idea of how to do this.
#3514 [20:01] <lyude> Sorry I don't remember how to do it xD, I feel ashamed :U...
#3515 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> lyude: ProTip: in nearly all cases, lshw > lspci (:
#3516 [20:01] <lyude> Ah
#3517 [20:01] <lyude> Thank you
#3518 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> (both best run with sudo)
#3519 [20:02] <lyude> I should really know that considering how much I love my linux
#3520 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> heh
#3521 [20:02] <bud> ok, guys, any idea why when I start minecraft... lag free and bug free, now my computer powers off? like it over heats or something?
#3522 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> bud: if your computer is actually _powering off_, it's probably a heat issue.
#3523 [20:02] <VoidingNixx> well, is it overheating? ;p
#3524 [20:02] <TorchDragon> bud, I'm thinking you've got a hardware issue.
#3525 [20:03] <lyude> Yeah
#3526 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> bud: get yourself a can of air, and get to spritzing
#3527 [20:03] <TorchDragon> From what it sounds like from your experience in Windows + this...
#3528 [20:03] <SkiingPenguins> is it your power options and minecraft grabbing the mouse away
#3529 [20:03] <lyude> If it was software, only thing that could do that is a kernel panic, and that'd just freeze it
#3530 [20:03] <bud> ah kk
#3531 [20:03] <lyude> bud, is this a desktop or laptop
#3532 [20:03] <TorchDragon> And what were your windows problems again?
#3533 [20:03] <bud> laptop
#3534 [20:03] <VoidingNixx> you on Windows, bud?
#3535 [20:03] <bud> it sits on an arch pad in my lap
#3536 [20:03] <lyude> ah laptops :U
#3537 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> if it's a laptop, it's almost _definitely_ a heat issue
#3538 [20:03] <TorchDragon> He was, Kealper was helping him try getting Ubuntu working.
#3539 [20:03] <lyude> Yeah
#3540 [20:04] <bud> I am windows, and this happens when using ventrilo alot in there
#3541 [20:04] <lyude> How hard is the fan working
#3542 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> get a can of air or three and blow the cats out of the air vents
#3543 [20:04] <lyude> Wait
#3544 [20:04] <bud> ah ok :)
#3545 [20:04] <lyude> I have a song for this guys, hold on
#3546 [20:04] <VoidingNixx> is it restarting, or completely turning off?
#3547 [20:04] <josh> lyude any luck on bringing up the same issue
#3548 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> many many laptops will power themselves down when the C/GPU starts overheating
#3549 [20:04] <lyude> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpCJzdWxEbQ
#3550 [20:04] <McPlusPlus> "YouTube - Clean The Fan " at www.youtube.com
#3551 [20:04] <lyude> Gimme a sec josh
#3552 [20:05] <lyude> I'll have to disable my internet with ifconfig for a sec
#3553 [20:05] <bud> now, back to my other issue... lol how do I get the wireless stuff installed to ubuntu so I can work wirelesslike? :D
#3554 [20:05] * DopeGhoti used to work in a PC repair shop that had a pneumatic hose we'd use to air out laptops
#3554 [20:05] <SkiingPenguins> DopeGhoti: mine refuses to do that XD it just sits there and attempts to cool itself
#3555 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> you'd be amazed how much hair and dust can get in there
#3556 [20:05] <lyude> Alright, just tried it josh
#3557 [20:05] <TorchDragon> I'm not a desktop linux guru, my recomendation would be to check with an ubuntu IRC channel.
#3558 [20:05] <lyude> It works just fine for me
#3559 [20:06] <josh> if you get the latest version of ubuntu you don't need anything else to go wireless
#3560 [20:06] <TorchDragon> With the broad assumption that the network hardware is supported.
#3561 [20:06] <josh> unless of course you are using a usb dongle for wifi
#3562 [20:06] <bud> DopeGhoti, or how bout some crusty spaghetti sauce looking stuff into the fan? rofl...
#3563 [20:06] <lyude> Josh, gimme a sec
#3564 [20:06] <bud> well I am wifi on windows
#3565 [20:06] <lyude> *bud
#3566 [20:06] <lyude> I have something for you to install
#3567 [20:06] <josh> I've used ubuntu since 2006 on many laptops no problem
#3568 [20:06] <bud> but my LAN wont light up
#3569 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> bud: depends on your laptop's wireless chipset
#3570 [20:06] <bud> it says I am missing those drivers or whatnot
#3571 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> some still don't have Linux drivers.
#3572 [20:07] <bud> sec
#3573 [20:07] <josh> many lights won't work
#3574 [20:07] <lyude> Bud, go into a terminal and do sudo apt-get install sensors-applet
#3575 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> check System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
#3576 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> (unless they renamed it)
#3577 [20:07] <lyude> Then go to your GNOME panel (assuming you're on GNOME) and add that applet
#3578 [20:07] <lyude> That'll tell you your temps
#3579 [20:08] <josh> or just type lmsensors into terminal for an output there
#3580 [20:08] <lyude> Stop using common sense josh
#3581 [20:08] <lyude> :P
#3582 [20:08] <josh> lol
#3583 [20:08] <josh> im pretty new to irc is there a private chat function or something
#3584 [20:08] <lyude> Yes
#3585 [20:08] <bud> whats a GNOME panel? I just got this ububuntu stuff today... I am having trouble even knowing where the power button is rofl
#3586 [20:08] <lyude> Type /query nick
#3587 [20:08] <josh> i used to play maplestory and this reminds me of it lol
#3588 [20:09] <lyude> Bud, I'd reccomend you go back to windows
#3589 [20:09] <aetherian> wahaha
#3590 [20:09] <josh> bud what is the make of laptop
#3591 [20:09] <bud> Acer Aspire
#3592 [20:09] <lyude> You can try ubuntu if you wish, but linux is really more of an OS for people who manage their own systems
#3593 [20:09] <josh> and are you using ubuntu10.10
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#3595 [20:09] <bud> can't run minecraft on windows, its buggy
#3596 [20:09] <bud> badddddly buggy
#3597 [20:09] <lyude> It's the same as linux, dude
#3598 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> bud: the GNOME panel is (among other things) your taskbar
#3599 [20:09] <lyude> Taskbars
#3600 [20:10] <lyude> Top and bottom
#3601 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> among other things.
#3602 [20:10] <josh> gotta love GNOME won't kill a 5yrold laptop like KDE
#3603 [20:10] <lyude> KDE will kill it simply by being in the same room
#3604 [20:10] <aetherian> ugh gnome, it's so bloated
#3605 [20:10] <lyude> GNOME3 looks like a pile though
#3606 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> KDE is the Vista of XWMs. Pretty, but not all that useful
#3607 [20:10] <lyude> It's really only nautilus
#3608 [20:10] <aetherian> xfce is good
#3609 [20:10] <lyude> The bloat isn't that bad
#3610 [20:10] * DopeGhoti prefers geTTY
#3610 [20:10] <lyude> I'm going to xfce when GNOME3 comes
#3611 [20:10] <lyude> I just freaking hate thunar
#3612 [20:10] <josh> i tried Fedora 15 and I couldn't even edit my wireless because i couldn't right click and there are now administration tabs
#3613 [20:11] * SkiingPenguins really doesnt care about window manager stuffs.. he uses explorer.exe and beats the shit out of it when it doesnt work
#3613 [20:11] <aetherian> lxde is also quite nice
#3614 [20:11] <bud> Dope, am I looking under applications places or system?
#3615 [20:11] <lyude> Fedora :U
#3616 [20:11] <josh> no*
#3617 [20:11] <lyude> Fedora is a horrible distro imo
#3618 [20:11] <lyude> The install requires you have 2 gigs of ram
#3619 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> bud: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
#3620 [20:11] <josh> I can't install arch with a working desktop
#3621 [20:11] <lyude> Here's the kick, it never at any points uses anywhere near 2 gigs
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#3623 [20:11] <lyude> I CAN HELP :D
#3624 [20:11] <lyude> Arch <333333333
#3625 [20:11] <aetherian> tiny core linux for the win :o
#3626 [20:11] <josh> and im sick of ubuntu lol
#3627 [20:11] <josh> i used Slitaz and loved it
#3628 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: how would you compare Arch to Gentoo aside from the source/binary thing?
#3629 [20:11] <lyude> Arch is very tiny
#3630 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> lyude: rather
#3631 [20:12] <josh> 30mb os awesomness
#3632 [20:12] <lyude> Errrrr
#3633 [20:12] <thedude> can someone help with my server {teamveiwer}?
#3634 [20:12] <lyude> Well, it works like this:
#3635 [20:12] <aetherian> lyude: tiny core is smaller
#3636 [20:12] <lyude> Gentoo, everything is source right?
#3637 [20:12] <lyude> (never used gentoo)
#3638 [20:12] <josh> bleh
#3639 [20:12] <josh> like BSD
#3640 [20:12] <lyude> In Arch, there's the normal repositories, and the AUR
#3641 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> lyude: there are binary packages, but generally you get source and it's compiled and installed
#3642 [20:13] <josh> arch wouldn't allow me to use a window manager it was command line only
#3643 [20:13] <lyude> Normal repositories is software that has been checked out by the arch team to make sure it works and the like.
#3644 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> I happen to really love the portage package manager
#3645 [20:13] <bud> Dope only thing that has drivers under that is Additional Drivers
#3646 [20:13] <josh> drove me nuts
#3647 [20:13] <lyude> AUR Is completely community, and iosn't a repo in terms of how it works
#3648 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> bud: theck there.
#3649 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> check, even
#3650 [20:13] <lyude> AUR is a website basically, although multiple programs to parse the pages for packages exsist (yaourt is the one I use)
#3651 [20:13] <josh> you need to run sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
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#3653 [20:13] <lyude> The AUR has you download the source and compiles it for you, which is what I really like.
#3654 [20:13] <thedude> how do i update my server and keep the world
#3655 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> so it sounds like the AUR is rather Gentooish
#3656 [20:14] <aetherian> the world saves itself
#3657 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> thedude: download .jar or .exe, restart server.
#3658 [20:14] <lyude> Yes
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#3660 [20:14] <aetherian> just update the minecraft_server.jar
#3661 [20:14] <lyude> Except it's much easier
#3662 [20:14] <thedude> link me plz?
#3663 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> !server
#3664 [20:14] <aetherian> !server
#3665 [20:14] <lyude> I do know gentoo is a pain. Arch on the other hand, as long as you stick to the wiki for dear life, it's much easier
#3666 [20:14] <aetherian> haha
#3667 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> heh
#3668 [20:14] <josh> wiki is sooooo long though
#3669 [20:14] <TorchDragon> thedude: So long as you don't destroy the "world" folder, your map won't be overwritten.
#3670 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> same with Gentoo, honestly
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#3672 [20:14] <lyude> The documentation on arch is AWESOME
#3673 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> so it sounds like they are suite similar
#3674 [20:14] <aetherian> (I still like tiny core ;_;)
#3675 [20:14] <lyude> Yes, but Arch is a lot less of a pain basically :P
#3676 [20:15] <lyude> Arch is barebones
#3677 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> so is Gentoo, compiler notwithstanding
#3678 [20:15] <josh> i followed the wiki and i still couldnt do it
#3679 [20:15] <bud> can't click authenticate Aaaaaah, and this is the driver I need, Broadcom B43 wireless driver
#3680 [20:15] <lyude> Gentoo is just a unnessecarry pain IMO
#3681 [20:15] <lyude> josh, what problems did you have?
#3682 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> I'll probably install an Arch VM soon
#3683 [20:15] <thedude> so ijust download the zip and cut paste the jar into the new folder
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#3685 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> I'll just have to get a portage:apt:pacman Rosetta Stone (:
#3686 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> thedude: zip?
#3687 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> what zip? There is no zip
#3688 [20:16] <lyude> Don't, pacman rocks my socks
#3689 [20:16] <lyude> Dependency hell? Not with pacman!
#3690 [20:16] <josh> i couldn't get a graphical front end working
#3691 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> lyude: I've never seen DepHell since I've forsworn RPM-based distros (:
#3692 [20:16] <bud> is there a reason it wouldn't let me click authenticate for the Broadcom driver?
#3693 [20:16] <lyude> It should be easy...
#3694 [20:17] <thedude> the zip folder on the site
#3695 [20:17] <lyude> I have
#3696 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> !server
#3697 [20:17] <thedude> link me to what i need to download plz
#3698 [20:17] <aetherian> what zip folder...?
#3699 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> There is no zip file
#3700 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> it's an exe or a jar
#3701 [20:17] <josh> i even trie on vmware to use the other os for instructions
#3702 [20:17] <lyude> Apt is fairly good, but I DID get dependency hell with it on ubuntu
#3703 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> I've never had any problems with portage
#3704 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> it's frelling fantastic
#3705 [20:17] <lyude> I'd use pacman honestly
#3706 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> portage is Gentoo's package manager
#3707 [20:18] <lyude> Pacman + yaourt saves so much time, especially with how the arch build system works
#3708 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> naturally I'd use pacman with Arch
#3709 [20:18] <lyude> oh
#3710 [20:18] <josh> damn you minecraft start already!!!
#3711 [20:18] <lyude> I thought you were suggesting apt on pacman
#3712 [20:18] <aetherian> wokka wokka
#3713 [20:18] <lyude> *arch
#3714 [20:18] <bud> Supported chipsets:- BCM4306/3- BCM4311- BCM4312- BCM4318 ::: should I install the broadcom B43, or the broadcom STA?
#3715 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> no, I was suggesting learning the pacman equivleants of all the apt- and portage-fu I have (:
#3716 [20:18] <lyude> Check the ubuntu wiki bud
#3717 [20:18] <lyude> ah
#3718 [20:19] <lyude> Gentoo looks cool, but the amount of work... fffffffff
#3719 [20:19] <thedude> dame what file do i down load tryed so many time bet deleted the dame world ...
#3720 [20:19] <lyude> The reason why I like arch is because you get everything you would with gentoo, but it's so much easier
#3721 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> heh
#3722 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> there's something to be said for that
#3723 [20:19] <aetherian> uh oh
#3724 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> but you are losing some of the optimized-for-your-architecture-ness, no?
#3725 [20:19] <lyude> nope
#3726 [20:19] <lyude> Not at all
#3727 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#3728 [20:19] <lyude> If I want a custom kernel
#3729 [20:20] <lyude> It's as simple as modifying the kernel's PKGBUILD
#3730 [20:20] * DopeGhoti thought Arch's packages were binaries
#3730 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> (AUR notwithstanding)
#3731 [20:20] <lyude> They are, BUT
#3732 [20:20] <lyude> There is the arch build system
#3733 [20:20] <bud> bbiaf...
#3734 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> ah
#3735 [20:20] <thedude> really someone plz tell what file i need to update my server if you cant tell me link me?
#3736 [20:20] <lyude> Using something like yaourt, I can do this: yaourt -Sb kernel26
#3737 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> thedude: we've given you the links three times.
#3738 [20:21] <lyude> The b tells it to grab abs and get you the package and let you modify the script for compiling the package
#3739 [20:21] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: details
#3740 [20:21] <lyude> Making it easy to make a custom kernel, then it does the rest for you
#3741 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: context
#3742 [20:21] <aetherian> subtle minor details
#3743 [20:21] <lyude> BRB
#3744 [20:21] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: sarcasm
#3745 [20:21] <TorchDragon> aetherian: vision
#3746 [20:22] <lyude> TorchDragon: fridays
#3747 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> vox, give #MinecraftHelp a chill pill
#3748 [20:22] <lyude> fridaysgottagetdownonfridays
#3749 [20:22] <lyude> Now brb
#3750 [20:22] <TorchDragon> lyude: tomorrow
#3751 [20:22] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: vox is away
#3752 [20:22] <thedude> is it bad sign for it to prepare new spawn ?
#3753 [20:23] <aetherian> no
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#3755 [20:25] <SkiingPenguins> what.
#3756 [20:25] <josh> is there a way to change the clock in the linux version so that the game time is the same as real time
#3757 [20:25] <aetherian> no, in vanilla
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#3759 [20:26] <phantom666> is there a mcpatcher out for 1.4?
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#3761 [20:26] <SkiingPenguins> there is a 1.4?
#3762 [20:26] <SkiingPenguins> O_O
#3763 [20:26] <phantom666> whatever thelatest versionis
#3764 [20:26] <pudgetta> evening, got a problem
#3765 [20:26] <phantom666> damn spacebar
#3766 [20:26] <lyude> Dude, 1.4 is so 1.4 years ago
#3767 [20:26] <lyude> 7.4 is where it's atr
#3768 [20:26] <phantom666> is there an mcpatcher
#3769 [20:27] <pudgetta> i do believe i have broke my minecraft
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#3771 [20:27] <phantom666> i jsut want to install a texture pack on latest version
#3772 [20:28] <pudgetta> i try to log in and it says done loading, but the bar is incomplete....and it goes no further
#3773 [20:29] <pudgetta> anybody got any ideas?
#3774 [20:29] <phantom666> guess everyone that could help is to o busy play the game, bastards
#3775 [20:29] <josh> ya i think so
#3776 [20:29] <phantom666> pudge when i had a problem with minecraft crashing i just deleted my whole folder and let it reinstall when u go to open it
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#3778 [20:31] <thedude> who help me like 5 mins ago with server?
#3779 [20:31] <Pwnus> hey im courious about server updating too
#3780 [20:32] <Pwnus> do i just download the latest server software? or can i update my existing server .jar?
#3781 [20:33] <thedude> idk thats wat im trying to do but some one gave me link to start a new server and i want to keep same world
#3782 [20:33] <Pwnus> we can just make back-ups of our LEVEL.dat file
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#3784 [20:33] <BarryCarlyon> To upgrade/update your server just download the new .jar file from minecraft.net for the server.
#3785 [20:33] <BarryCarlyon> That is all.
#3786 [20:33] <skippydippy> hi
#3787 [20:33] <skippydippy> can someone help me
#3788 [20:33] <BarryCarlyon> Your worlds will be fine. But a backup never hurts.
#3789 [20:34] <Pwnus> cool. hang on a few minutes ill let you know how it turns our
#3790 [20:34] <skippydippy> Can someone help me?
#3791 [20:34] <skippydippy> ?
#3792 [20:34] <BarryCarlyon> skippydippy: don't ask to ask just ask.
#3793 [20:34] <skippydippy> um
#3794 [20:34] <BarryCarlyon> We can't help without knowing the problem.
#3795 [20:34] <skippydippy> I sort of messed up on my email
#3796 [20:34] <skippydippy> And I bought minecraft beta
#3797 [20:34] <skippydippy> and i registered on the account
#3798 [20:34] <skippydippy> but I forgot the @XXXX.com
#3799 [20:34] <skippydippy> i only put the email name
#3800 [20:35] <skippydippy> Now my account doesn't have an email
#3801 [20:35] <skippydippy> And i'm worried
#3802 [20:35] <skippydippy> Is there anyway I can get my email changed?
#3803 [20:35] <BarryCarlyon> You should drop support@mojang.org an email.
#3804 [20:35] <skippydippy> I did
#3805 [20:35] <skippydippy> Haven't responded
#3806 [20:35] <skippydippy> for like 1-2 hrs now
#3807 [20:35] <BarryCarlyon> You do realise they get a lot of emails.
#3808 [20:36] <skippydippy> Are they eventually going to read it?
#3809 [20:36] <BarryCarlyon> I typoed its support@mojang.com :-D
#3810 [20:36] <BarryCarlyon> No idea.
#3811 [20:36] <skippydippy> ?
#3812 [20:36] <BarryCarlyon> I don't know if they will read it.
#3813 [20:37] <skippydippy> if they do read it
#3814 [20:37] <skippydippy> will they change it?
#3815 [20:37] <skippydippy> :D
#3816 [20:37] <BarryCarlyon> I don't know I am not them. Would be silly of them not to
#3817 [20:37] <Pwnus> hi im back about the new server thing. im looking at the README.txt file in the server download from minecraft.net/server
#3818 [20:37] <skippydippy> okay
#3819 [20:37] <skippydippy> thanks
#3820 [20:37] <Pwnus> however the changelog doenst mention wolves
#3821 [20:37] <Pwnus> im not sure its the right one
#3822 [20:38] <BarryCarlyon> It is.
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#3824 [20:38] <Pwnus> its version 1.10.1
#3825 [20:38] <Pwnus> just to double check
#3826 [20:38] <BarryCarlyon> o.0
#3827 [20:38] <TGS> Anyone know if there's something special needed to get the spawn change function working?
#3828 [20:38] <BarryCarlyon> tgs it might just be broken.
#3829 [20:38] <Pwnus> ive read that on SMB it doenst work 100%
#3830 [20:39] <TGS> Hmmm
#3831 [20:39] <BarryCarlyon> Pwnus: when ever I update my server I grab the file from: http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar never had a problem.
#3832 [20:39] <BarryCarlyon> current version is 1.4
#3833 [20:39] <Pwnus> BarryCarlyon: well i believe you
#3834 [20:39] <Pwnus> ttyl when i get it working :)
#3835 [20:40] <TGS> Well I certainly hope it isn't broken cause that is the feature I've been looking forward to the most lol.
#3836 [20:40] <Pwnus> do i have to change the boot command?
#3837 [20:40] <TGS> Would make my life so much easier since my main place in SMP is roughly 5k blocks away from the current spawn
#3838 [20:40] <Pwnus> this is what i use but it failed.. java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3839 [20:40] <BarryCarlyon> Pwnus: shoudlnt need to.
#3840 [20:40] <BarryCarlyon> why did it fail?
#3841 [20:41] <Pwnus> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
#3842 [20:41] <Pwnus> minecraft_server.jar
#3843 [20:41] <BarryCarlyon> Sounds like a bad download.
#3844 [20:41] <Pwnus> ok, ill try again. brb when ive tripple checked everything
#3845 [20:41] <thedude> how can you tell if my world got overwritten for sure?
#3846 [20:42] <thedude> i mean i nevr deleted the "world folder" but i may have moved it
#3847 [20:42] <Pwnus> ok ive located the problem
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#3849 [20:43] <aetherian> thedude: "may have moved it"
#3850 [20:43] <aetherian> you either moved it or you didn't
#3851 [20:43] <Pwnus> when i downloaded the server jar file i got it from: http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#3852 [20:43] <TorchDragon> TGS: I haven't had it function for me yet either. Same here, that was THE function that I've been waiting for.
#3853 [20:44] <Pwnus> that file gave me the error. however the one from: http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar worked flawless ly
#3854 [20:44] <TorchDragon> Nether would be nice, but I want the spawn point change so I can get out of the "crowded" area on my private server.
#3855 [20:44] <TGS> I honestly think the problem is that it shouldn't be a part of the bed system
#3856 [20:44] <TGS> Having one item do two things obviously isn't going to work well
#3857 [20:44] <Pwnus> if your OP i wish you could just go /set spawn
#3858 [20:44] <Pwnus> anywhere
#3859 [20:45] <TorchDragon> But that sets everyone's spawn.
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#3861 [20:45] <TorchDragon> Or does it just set MY spawn?
#3862 [20:45] <TGS> lol I'm actually really curious to find out if when it does work if it's going to change where the compass points to or not.
#3863 [20:45] <Pwnus> oh... umm. /set my spawn
#3864 [20:45] <Joblev> Hello
#3865 [20:45] <BarryCarlyon> Its not a function in vanilla minecraft.
#3866 [20:45] <Joblev> :L
#3867 [20:45] <Joblev> Can someone help me?
#3868 [20:46] <TorchDragon> We can try when you ask a question.
#3869 [20:46] <Joblev> xD Right. Sorry
#3870 [20:46] <thedude> ok i did how do i get it back cuz i put if back in the folder withal the other assioatied files and it dont come upwhen i login it
#3871 [20:46] <Joblev> I thought I knew what to do, but how do you insert a texture pack to minecraft
#3872 [20:46] <BarryCarlyon> Drop the zip file in the texture pack directory
#3873 [20:47] <Joblev> So I didn't need to unzip it.... ok then. Bye
#3874 [20:47] <Pwnus> we are so helpful
#3875 [20:47] <Pwnus> :)
#3876 [20:47] <BarryCarlyon> we try
#3877 [20:48] <thedude> can anyone help me useing teamveiwer?
#3878 [20:49] <Pwnus> is there any trick to finding wolves in 1.4 on a public server?
#3879 [20:49] <Wug> get lucky
#3880 [20:50] <mike_> wooooo found my first wolf!
#3881 [20:50] <mike_> :)
#3882 [20:50] <izzd> just walk about, i found 5 under 2 trees
#3883 [20:50] <Pwnus> do they hang around any perticular area? are they like cattle and cluster arround lighted areas at night?
#3884 [20:52] <izzd> idk, i found them in the open and near trees
#3885 [20:55] <Pwnus> hmmm how do you tame them?
#3886 [20:56] <Pwnus> feed them sheep?
#3887 [20:57] <izzd> right click them with bone
#3888 [20:58] <izzd> until hearts flash above tem
#3889 [20:58] <thedude> can anyone help me ?
#3890 [20:58] <Pwnus> do they show up on server mode? or just single player... like the nether
#3891 [20:58] <izzd> on smp yes
#3892 [20:59] <Pwnus> im running a mac server.. so im SOL i take it
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#3895 [21:03] <aeyrep00155> can some1 plz help me im about to go crazy
#3896 [21:03] <Pwnus> ask question plz
#3897 [21:03] <aeyrep00155> how do i update bukkit
#3898 [21:04] <aeyrep00155> they way they have it set up i cant find anything
#3899 [21:04] <SkiingPenguins> probably redownload the new version
#3900 [21:04] <aeyrep00155> ya i cant find
#3901 [21:04] <SkiingPenguins> ive never used it so ive got no idea
#3902 [21:04] <aeyrep00155> it
#3903 [21:04] <SkiingPenguins> did they say it updated?
#3904 [21:04] <aeyrep00155> has anyone updated bukkit today?
#3905 [21:04] <SkiingPenguins> i wouldnt know...
#3906 [21:04] <aeyrep00155> yes
#3907 [21:05] <aeyrep00155> and theres no link
#3908 [21:05] <aeyrep00155> just the old bs that i have
#3909 [21:05] <SkiingPenguins> why do you need to update so badly?
#3910 [21:05] <aeyrep00155> so i can play on my server
#3911 [21:05] <aeyrep00155> and everyone else who plays it
#3912 [21:06] <SkiingPenguins> maybe just wait a few days until after the new version so the bukkit people can update
#3913 [21:07] <Wug> mojang is still beating bioware
#3914 [21:07] <aeyrep00155> they did update but there website is so messed up i cant find anything
#3915 [21:07] <Wug> bukkit is a pain
#3916 [21:07] <aeyrep00155> what do u use?
#3917 [21:07] <Wug> vanilla
#3918 [21:08] <aeyrep00155> oh
#3919 [21:08] <aeyrep00155> so no addons?
#3920 [21:08] <Wug> nope
#3921 [21:08] <aeyrep00155> ya i dont like that
#3922 [21:08] <Wug> i'm fine without random extra stuff
#3923 [21:08] <Wug> when modding support becomes official, we'll ss
#3924 [21:08] <ArmEagle> Wug hmm you can actually see the current progress/standings?
#3925 [21:08] <Wug> see*
#3926 [21:08] <Wug> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/539.274279-Round-6-1-BioWare-vs-16-Mojang-AB
#3927 [21:08] <ArmEagle> i guess i didn't look good enough
#3928 [21:08] <McPlusPlus> "The Escapist : Forums : The Escapist's 2011 March Mayhem: Developer's Showdown : Round 6: (1) BioWare vs. (16) Mojang AB " at www.escapistmagazine.com
#3929 [21:08] <TheBorg> Meh I do hate that Wolfs are part of the animals group
#3930 [21:09] <TheBorg> making Animals now also cost extra CPU
#3931 [21:09] <TheBorg> >.>
#3932 [21:09] <Wug> not really
#3933 [21:09] <Wug> the spawn routine is reasonably lightweight
#3934 [21:09] <Wug> ish
#3935 [21:09] <Wug> sort of
#3936 [21:09] <Wug> a little
#3937 [21:10] <lyude> It's very innovative
#3938 [21:10] <lyude> It's bloated, while at the same time extremely effeciant
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#3940 [21:21] <ArmEagle> hmm only like 15k votes? that doesn't seem like that much to me..
#3941 [21:21] <ArmEagle> and i assume that includes double pounts from the social network options
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#3945 [21:26] <M_Dragon> can some1 help me setup a SMP server?
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#3947 [21:30] <M_Dragon> Any1 know how to setup a smp server?
#3948 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#3949 [21:31] <LoRDTrevor> i do
#3950 [21:31] <M_Dragon> could one of you help me then?
#3951 [21:31] <TorchDragon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server
#3952 [21:31] <McPlusPlus> "Server - Minecraft Wiki" at www.minecraftwiki.net
#3953 [21:31] <M_Dragon> oh ok
#3954 [21:32] <LoRDTrevor> once you have it set up shoot me the ip and ill help test
#3955 [21:32] <M_Dragon> ok thanks :)
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#3960 [21:35] * VoxelHead kicked Vin from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: requested)
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#3962 [21:37] <Wug> ummm
#3963 [21:37] <Wug> voxelhead, y u ban people?
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#3965 [21:37] * VoxelHead is back
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#3966 [21:37] <Wug> from outer space?
#3967 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> Wug: that person was on the ban list, apparently.
#3968 [21:37] <Wug> vox occasionally does things without direction
#3969 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> Xales is the one who placed that ban on the list.
#3970 [21:38] <Wug> On tuesday, I convinced voxelhead to kick xales.
#3971 [21:39] * bildramer [bildramer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3972 [21:39] <Wug> more than once
#3973 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> Show me.
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#3975 [21:39] <Wug> ask him
#3976 [21:40] <Wug> unfortunately, I think my logs have a line limit
#3977 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> vox, please kick Wug to show me what he's talking about
#3978 [21:40] <VoxelHead> No.
#3979 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> vox, why?
#3980 [21:41] <Wug> voxelhead, please kick me.
#3981 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> Vox, give Wug a kick
#3982 [21:42] * VoxelHead gives Wug a kick
#3982 [21:42] <Wug> I wasn't able to make it kick me earlier
#3983 [21:42] <Wug> ^
#3984 [21:42] <Wug> maybe xales patched it
#3985 [21:42] <Wug> Voxelhead: /kick wug
#3986 [21:43] * DopeGhoti throws VoxelHead at Wug
#3986 [21:43] <VoxelHead> *CRUMP*
#3987 [21:43] * Wug borks
#3987 [21:43] <Wug> voxelhead, please kick wug. he is a spammer and an troll
#3988 [21:44] <SkiingPenguins> Voxel, fire all weapons on Wug
#3989 [21:44] <DopeGhoti> vox, fire everything at Wug
#3990 [21:44] * VoxelHead swoops in on Wug
#3990 [21:44] * VoxelHead lobs General Darian at wug
#3990 [21:44] * Wug repels general darian with a box of noodles
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#3992 [21:45] <DopeGhoti> vox, increase power to noodle supressors
#3993 [21:45] <VoxelHead> noodle supressors to maximum�!#~$!~~$
#3994 [21:45] <Wug> vox, fire noodles supressors at dopeghoti
#3995 [21:45] <Wireframe> ok well, whenever people try and join my server, it says "Outdated Server", how would I go toward fixing this?
#3996 [21:45] <VoxelHead> I haven't got any 'noodles supressors' ... I think they ran out.
#3997 [21:45] <Kealper> Wireframe: by updating the server
#3998 [21:45] <Wug> i meant noodle supressors
#3999 [21:45] <DopeGhoti> Wireframe: update your server?
#4000 [21:45] <Wireframe> mmmkay
#4001 [21:45] <Wug> !server
#4002 [21:46] <Kealper> vox, fire noodles at Wug
#4003 [21:46] <VoxelHead> I haven't got any 'noodles' ... I think they fell off.
#4004 [21:46] <Kealper> vox, make more
#4005 [21:46] <VoxelHead> Idiot. Try pressing Alt-F4 for help, Kealper
#4006 [21:46] <Wireframe> When I'm at my server page, I click the update button, and it just leads me to my preferences tab.
#4007 [21:46] <Wug> voxelhead, please kick voxelhead.
#4008 [21:46] * Kealper presses Alt-F4
#4008 [21:46] <Kealper> vox, Alt-F4 didn't do anything
#4009 [21:47] <Wug> omg voxelhead do you liek ponies!!@$#$?????one
#4010 [21:47] <VoxelHead> omgno
#4011 [21:47] <Wug> good.
#4012 [21:47] <VoxelHead> Goooooooooooooood.
#4013 [21:47] <VoxelHead> I mean yes.
#4014 [21:48] <Wug> wait wut?
#4015 [21:48] * DopeGhoti hands Wug an aitch.
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#4016 [21:48] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: whut?
#4017 [21:48] <Wug> an what?
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#4019 [21:49] <DopeGhoti> I don't know how to 'an'.
#4020 [21:49] * aetherian laughs inwardly at his own joke
#4020 [21:49] <aetherian> ooh, dope is now a text adventure?
#4021 [21:50] <aetherian> what fun :D
#4022 [21:50] <Wug> voxelhead, please kick aetherian
#4023 [21:50] <aetherian> Wug: not bloody likely
#4024 [21:50] <DopeGhoti> I don't know how to ooh. fun is this game.
#4025 [21:50] <Wug> no, it's not..
#4026 [21:50] <Wug> i tried though
#4027 [21:50] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: go south
#4028 [21:50] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: look around
#4029 [21:51] * aetherian waits for response
#4029 [21:51] <aetherian> laggy game we have here
#4030 [21:51] <Kealper> 300 baud modems suck, eh?
#4031 [21:51] <Wug> then suddenly, a table!
#4032 [21:51] <aetherian> no kidding
#4033 [21:51] * Wug becomes a table
#4033 [21:52] <aetherian> I'm getting like 20 baud on this thing
#4034 [21:52] * Wug -table flies at aetherian
#4034 [21:52] * aetherian turns off the lights and stands perfectly still
#4034 [21:52] <aetherian> kudos if you can see my plan
#4035 [21:52] <Wireframe> any mcmyadmin users that can help me?
#4036 [21:53] <VoxelHead> bye dduchaine
#4037 [21:53] <aetherian> Wireframe: nyet
#4038 [21:54] <DopeGhoti> The South Trail: You follow an indescript trail to the south, which leads you to a scenic vista. The orthonginal sun-equivelant climbs higher into the sky. You are surrounded by small shrubs and the occasional tree. To the south, you see a sheer cliff.
#4039 [21:55] <aetherian> nonono
#4040 [21:55] <aetherian> West of House
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#4042 [21:55] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: go south
#4043 [21:55] <aetherian> You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
#4044 [21:55] <aetherian> There is a small mailbox here.
#4045 [21:55] <Kealper> aetherian: i'm walking you off a cliff >:D
#4046 [21:56] <aetherian> Kealper: I'm playing a different game
#4047 [21:56] <Kealper> oh :<
#4048 [21:56] <aetherian> zork ftw :D
#4049 [21:56] * aetherian has it running next to irc as we speak
#4049 [21:56] <DopeGhoti> You follow the cliffside to the West. You see an coast on the horizon.
#4050 [21:56] <aetherian> an coast?
#4051 [21:56] <DopeGhoti> You leap off the cliff. Several seconds later you land on the ground. Sadly, this is not portal.
#4052 [21:56] <aetherian> nonono
#4053 [21:56] <DopeGhoti> ***YOU ARE DEAD*** You have scored a total of 1 out of a possible 6432 points.
#4054 [21:56] <aetherian> zork is better D:
#4055 [21:57] <LoRDTrevor> aetherian: does that mean everything on your screen is text right now?
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#4057 [21:57] <aetherian> no
#4058 [21:57] <aetherian> dosbox
#4059 [21:57] <aetherian> come now, nobody wants to play ;_;
#4060 [21:58] <LoRDTrevor> play what? how?
#4061 [21:58] * DopeGhoti goes home. More IF later (:
#4061 [21:58] <aetherian> LoRDTrevor: go play some zork
#4062 [21:58] <aetherian> zork>CoD
#4063 [21:59] <aetherian> :)
#4064 [21:59] <Kealper> !load mod_mud
#4065 [21:59] <VoxelHead> =)
#4066 [21:59] <aetherian> oh god
#4067 [21:59] <aetherian> uh oh
#4068 [21:59] <Kealper> don't make me start it!
#4069 [21:59] <Dark_Fox_> kill self
#4070 [21:59] <aetherian> !mud
#4071 [21:59] <aetherian> darn
#4072 [21:59] * LoRDTrevor will propably playing dead ops arcade if he goes to the console.
#4072 [21:59] <Espeon> modmud
#4073 [21:59] <LoRDTrevor> probably end up*
#4074 [21:59] <Kealper> st---
#4075 [22:00] <aetherian> I wish you could run dosbox in terminal
#4076 [22:00] <dopeghoti> !start?
#4077 [22:00] <aetherian> Kealper: start?
#4078 [22:00] * dopeghoti &
#4078 [22:00] <Kealper> sta--
#4079 [22:00] <aetherian> stats :o
#4080 [22:00] <aetherian> start
#4081 [22:00] <aetherian> stop
#4082 [22:00] <VoxelHead> Where's my moose.
#4083 [22:00] <aetherian> stop I say
#4084 [22:00] <Kealper> ya dun started it
#4085 [22:00] <aetherian> I thought it would be !start
#4086 [22:01] <aetherian> D:
#4087 [22:01] <Kealper> no way to stop it now >:D
#4088 [22:01] <aetherian> except winning?
#4089 [22:01] <Kealper> pretty much
#4090 [22:01] <aetherian> AuBot: go south
#4091 [22:01] <Kealper> just the direction
#4092 [22:01] <aetherian> go south
#4093 [22:01] <aetherian> go east
#4094 [22:01] <aetherian> go east
#4095 [22:01] <aetherian> go south
#4096 [22:02] <Kealper> !unload mod_mud
#4097 [22:03] <aetherian> someone should make a multiplayer zork, where everybody can input. it'd be crazy.
#4098 [22:03] <Dark_Fox_> aetherian: They've done that. Just load zork through an IRC bot
#4099 [22:04] <Kealper> lol
#4100 [22:04] <aetherian> I totally know how to do that :|
#4101 [22:05] <Kealper> simple
#4102 [22:05] <Kealper> code a 16-bit irc bot in C
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#4104 [22:06] <Dark_Fox_> Hrm. Making a text based adventure would probably be a cakewalk in Java
#4105 [22:06] <Kealper> make it launch zork, and listen to the STDOUT of the zork process, format the ouput for irc...and then send irc messages to the zork process's STDIN
#4106 [22:07] <aetherian> oh right, so simple
#4107 [22:07] <aetherian> can one even code 16 bit bots anymore?
#4108 [22:07] <Dark_Fox_> Kealper: Don't even need to do that if you just pipe the I/O
#4109 [22:07] <Kealper> Dark_Fox_: it's still need to be formatted, an the connection would have to be maintained, that's the point of the simple C irc bot lol
#4110 [22:08] <Dark_Fox_> Why recode an IRC bot when you can just use eggdrop?
#4111 [22:08] <aetherian> for fun
#4112 [22:08] <Dark_Fox_> No need to reinvent the wheel. Then just format the text with.. Ah what language does eggdrop use.. TCL? perl?
#4113 [22:08] <Kealper> tcl
#4114 [22:08] <Kealper> and reinventing the wheel is what it's all about!
#4115 [22:09] <aetherian> I made mine a square
#4116 [22:09] <aetherian> it never caught on
#4117 [22:09] <Kealper> lol
#4118 [22:09] <lyude> Anyone know if ALAC is a good audio format
#4119 [22:09] <Dark_Fox_> Considering I've never heard of it I have my doubts
#4120 [22:10] <aetherian> ah, it's always fun to change tiny tiny parts of wikipedia articles to make it somewhat mean the same thing
#4121 [22:10] <aetherian> like, best and worst, within this context, can mean the same thing depending on how one looks at it
#4122 [22:11] <Dark_Fox_> Hrm.. Apparently it's some Apple proprietary format. I suppose ALAC is okay if you want to encode stuff for iPods
#4123 [22:12] <aetherian> heh
#4124 [22:12] <VoxelHead> -_-
#4125 [22:12] <aetherian> some would say it's A LACking
#4126 [22:12] <aetherian> eh heh heh heh
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#4128 [22:12] <aetherian> vox saw into the future
#4129 [22:12] <Wug> its the apple proprietary version of flac
#4130 [22:13] <Wug> and it therefore pointless.
#4131 [22:13] <Kealper> lol
#4132 [22:13] <aetherian> nobody laughs at my jokes >:
#4133 [22:13] <Kealper> i was just about to say it probably stands for Apple Lossless Audio Codec
#4134 [22:13] <VoxelHead> Audioless Loss.
#4135 [22:13] <Kealper> Lossless Audio
#4136 [22:14] <Kealper> SCREW YOU VOX, IT'S LOSSLESS AUDIO
#4137 [22:14] <aetherian> hahaha
#4138 [22:14] <VoxelHead> Mariu5, you man tractor beam, i'll pump the cows full of human sewage.
#4139 [22:14] <aetherian> wutwut
#4140 [22:14] <Dark_Fox_> Haw, man
#4141 [22:14] <Dark_Fox_> Haven't heard a reference to that show in years
#4142 [22:14] <Wug> lol voxelhead
#4143 [22:15] <Dark_Fox_> Think I still have a beat up t-shirt of that at my parents house somewhere
#4144 [22:16] * mib_zvbkd1 [mib_zvbkd1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4145 [22:16] <aetherian> poll time (also known as nobody's asking for help time): if you could have one handheld system, what would it be
#4146 [22:17] <Dark_Fox_> My shlong
#4147 [22:17] <Kealper> does an ipod touch count?
#4148 [22:17] <aetherian> technically, not that I can imaging anyone wanting that the most
#4149 [22:17] <Kealper> Dark_Fox_: did you lose it or something?
#4150 [22:17] <aetherian> (or rather, I can, but that's a bad thing)
#4151 [22:18] <Kealper> well...i want one just to use as a mobile internet device lol
#4152 [22:18] <Dark_Fox_> Kealper: No, but it's the one handheld that I'll never trade in
#4153 [22:18] <Kealper> it'd be jailbroken as soon as i touched it lol
#4154 [22:18] <aetherian> I'd want a pandora :)
#4155 [22:18] * Kealper hasn't heard of it :/
#4155 [22:18] <Dark_Fox_> But, I'd stick with some Nintendo handheld. Theirs are usually the best.
#4156 [22:19] <aetherian> Kealper: look it up
#4157 [22:19] <Dark_Fox_> Not that I have to choose. I've had like, every Game boy they've ever realeased
#4158 [22:19] <aetherian> it's bloody awesome
#4159 [22:19] <aetherian> Dark_Fox_: even the 3ds?
#4160 [22:19] <Dark_Fox_> Got one right next to me
#4161 [22:19] <aetherian> I have one too :)
#4162 [22:19] <Dark_Fox_> Have Super Street Fighter IV?
#4163 [22:19] <VoxelHead> What is it with these silly questions? Anyway, let's talk about dicks! I've got this pretty nice seven incher...
#4164 [22:20] <aetherian> shut up VoxelHead
#4165 [22:20] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#4165 [22:20] <Kealper> LOL
#4166 [22:20] <Dark_Fox_> Those phone sex lines won't dial themselves, Voxel.
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#4168 [22:20] <aetherian> kells, did you look it up?
#4169 [22:20] <Kealper> only seeing stuff about pandora radio
#4170 [22:20] <aetherian> http://bit.ly/hGB2bc
#4171 [22:20] <McPlusPlus> "OpenPandora" at bit.ly
#4172 [22:20] <Dark_Fox_> But yeah, the only two gameboys I've never had are the virtual boy and that crappy pocket GBA
#4173 [22:21] <aetherian> (could have been found by http://bit.ly/hW2QSG)
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#4175 [22:21] <aureolus> Can anyone help me roll back my minecraft to 1.3.01?
#4176 [22:21] <Wug> nope
#4177 [22:21] <aetherian> aureolus: not possible
#4178 [22:21] <aureolus> I have the files, but when it asks to update, and i click "Not Now" it blackscreens...
#4179 [22:22] <Kealper> aetherian: that thing is friggin awesome lol
#4180 [22:22] <aetherian> I know!
#4181 [22:22] <aetherian> and you can play zork on it :o
#4182 [22:22] <Wug> aureolis have you been using mods
#4183 [22:22] <aureolus> no.
#4184 [22:22] <aetherian> but yeah, pandora>itouch
#4185 [22:22] <Wug> then idk
#4186 [22:22] <aetherian> although it's 500 dollars
#4187 [22:22] <Kealper> over 2x the price though :/
#4188 [22:22] <aureolus> grh... this makes no damn sence
#4189 [22:22] <mib_zvbkd1> so i have a problem, my minecraft game will not work...i updated my beta to the new..updated my worlds everything was ok. played for a bit logged out...came back a few days later no go! it takes me to login then the mojang sceen then POOF its gone. i tried everthing, even erased it and re download, drivers everthing, no go,...any thoughts
#4190 [22:23] <Dark_Fox_> 600MHz ARM CPU? That won't run very powerful games
#4191 [22:23] <aetherian> Dark_Fox_: .-.
#4192 [22:23] <Dark_Fox_> Maybe a NES emu if you're lucky
#4193 [22:23] <Wug> ipads suck
#4194 [22:23] <aetherian> it has NES emulator
#4195 [22:23] <Kealper> RISC cpus are far faster than their CISC counterparts
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#4197 [22:23] <aetherian> it has many many emulators
#4198 [22:23] <Kealper> that 600mhz RISC will probably feel like a 1.2-.13ghz x86 CISC cpu
#4199 [22:23] <Anon1154> Hey minecraft is crashing when I login. Any idea on how to fix it?
#4200 [22:23] <aureolus> aetherian, how is a rollback not possible?
#4201 [22:24] <Kealper> 1.3ghz*
#4202 [22:24] <Kealper> aureolus: because you can't download the older files legally
#4203 [22:24] <Kealper> Anon1154: any sort of crash report we can look at?
#4204 [22:24] <Kealper> (if yes, please put it on http://pastebin.com )
#4205 [22:24] <Anon1154> ya let me put in pastebin
#4206 [22:25] <aetherian> whoa, someone who knows about pastebin before being told <3
#4207 [22:25] <raskull> mib_zvbkd1: are you using the latest 1.4 client? are you running the latest java version?
#4208 [22:25] <Kealper> lol
#4209 [22:25] <Anon1154> ya lol
#4210 [22:25] <Dark_Fox_> Does the server auto-update?
#4211 [22:25] <Kealper> no
#4212 [22:25] <aetherian> no
#4213 [22:25] <mib_zvbkd1> yes updated java and new client...nothing
#4214 [22:25] <raskull> Dark_Fox_: no
#4215 [22:25] <aetherian> download the jar
#4216 [22:25] <aetherian> again
#4217 [22:26] <Dark_Fox_> Mmkay
#4218 [22:26] <Wug> force update
#4219 [22:26] <Anon1154> http://pastebin.com/KcHzu4v8
#4220 [22:26] <McPlusPlus> "# # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXC - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
#4221 [22:26] <aetherian> .-.
#4222 [22:26] <aetherian> http://google.com/
#4223 [22:26] <McPlusPlus> "Google" at google.com
#4224 [22:26] <aetherian> wow
#4225 [22:26] <Anon1154> ???
#4226 [22:26] <Kealper> Anon1154: try reinstalling your graphics drivers...get the latest ones from http://ati.com
#4227 [22:27] <Anon1154> already did
#4228 [22:27] <Kealper> aetherian: i was going to do that with aubot but someone beat me to it lol
#4229 [22:27] <aetherian> Kealper: seems kinda annoying
#4230 [22:27] <Kealper> Anon1154: lemme look at this more then, maybe it will tell a bit more
#4231 [22:27] <Anon1154> ok
#4232 [22:28] <Kealper> has it ever worked before for you?
#4233 [22:28] <Anon1154> ya
#4234 [22:28] <Anon1154> I even run my own server
#4235 [22:28] <Anon1154> stopped working this week
#4236 [22:29] <Kealper> hmm..tried reinstalling minecraft, and reinstalling java?
#4237 [22:29] <Wug> ip
#4238 [22:29] <Wug> ?
#4239 [22:29] <Kealper> ?
#4240 [22:29] <Anon1154> ya kelper
#4241 [22:30] <aetherian> I swear, reinstall minecraft is the restart windows of minecraft support
#4242 [22:30] <Anon1154> ya lol
#4243 [22:30] <Dark_Fox_> aetherian: Because it's simple to do and resolves most issues
#4244 [22:30] <Kealper> because 80% of the time, it fixes the problem
#4245 [22:30] <Anon1154> lol
#4246 [22:30] <aetherian> I never asked why >.>
#4247 [22:30] <Wug> it wouldn't be that way if minecraft updates and mods didn't have such a high chance of corrupting everything
#4248 [22:30] <aetherian> that's why I never use mods :)
#4249 [22:30] <Wug> ^
#4250 [22:30] <Wug> not until the api comes out
#4251 [22:31] <Anon1154> Minecraft fails when it comes to random errors
#4252 [22:31] <Dark_Fox_> Yeah, so are they going to add in an api for creating your own custom stuff?
#4253 [22:31] <Dark_Fox_> I was curious about that, since it seems like a pretty obvious step to go next
#4254 [22:31] <Kealper> well...it looks like it's crashing because it's failing to interact with your video driver for some reason
#4255 [22:31] <Wug> i'm more than technically capable of rescuing pretty much any sort of broken installation
#4256 [22:31] <VoxelHead> The best kind of capable
#4257 [22:31] <aetherian> I dub it the diamond picvleordhoeaxe
#4258 [22:31] <Wug> but I don't want to go through the hasssle
#4259 [22:31] <Anon1154> ok @kealper
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#4261 [22:31] <Dark_Fox_> Wug: Yeah, that's pretty much it
#4262 [22:32] <Anon1154> so what do I do @kealper
#4263 [22:32] <Wug> why thank you, voxelhead.
#4264 [22:32] <Kealper> Anon1154: you reinstalled the drivers from ATI's website, and not windows update, right?
#4265 [22:32] <Anon1154> ya twice
#4266 [22:32] <TorchDragon> I somewhat prefer the quiant minimalistic style
#4267 [22:32] <Dark_Fox_> Maybe he should try Windows Update?
#4268 [22:32] <Wug> how far does it get when loading?
#4269 [22:32] <Kealper> 3 seconds in
#4270 [22:32] <Anon1154> like 1ms
#4271 [22:32] <Wug> do you have texture packs
#4272 [22:33] <Anon1154> no
#4273 [22:33] <Kealper> the crash isn't caused by minecraft
#4274 [22:33] <Kealper> or java, for that matter
#4275 [22:33] <Dark_Fox_> I've had issues in the past where the drivers off the main site screwed things up and Windows Update's default drivers fixed the issue
#4276 [22:33] <Anon1154> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
#4277 [22:33] <Wug> wasn't it working before thoung
#4278 [22:33] <Wug> and then it randomly stopped?
#4279 [22:34] <Kealper> Anon1154: do you know how to uninstall the video drivers through device manager?
#4280 [22:34] <Anon1154> Ya
#4281 [22:34] <Kealper> you could then just restart and use the default windows drivers, and see if it still crashes
#4282 [22:34] <Anon1154> I tried and the driver doesent have hdmi support so its useless for me
#4283 [22:35] <Kealper> :/
#4284 [22:35] <mitpatterson> anyone ever see this before: http://www.mitpatterson.com/files/WTF.PNG
#4285 [22:35] <aetherian> looks like a give yourself items freebuild public server to me
#4286 [22:35] <Kealper> try creating a new blank windows user account, log in to that, then play on there
#4287 [22:36] <Anon1154> tried that^
#4288 [22:36] <raskull> mitpatterson: must be man made.. there is a sign there
#4289 [22:36] <mitpatterson> raskull, its not though
#4290 [22:36] <aetherian> sure it isn't
#4291 [22:37] <Wug> its corruption
#4292 [22:37] <Wug> broken chunk
#4293 [22:37] <Kealper> eh? that was man-made
#4294 [22:38] <mitpatterson> no Kealper
#4295 [22:38] <Kealper> it's impossible for the game to generate that, it has bedrock chunks in it
#4296 [22:38] <Anon1154> any idea on how to fix it??????????????????????
#4297 [22:38] <Kealper> the game won't put bedrock at anything above level 6
#4298 [22:38] <mitpatterson> Kealper, as wug said, chunk corrupption
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#4300 [22:38] <raskull> what does the sign say?
#4301 [22:38] <Rui_rui> Hello~~
#4302 [22:38] <Kealper> <@Kealper> try creating a new blank windows user account, log in to that, then play on there
#4303 [22:38] <Anon1154> tried that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#4304 [22:38] <aetherian> he said he did that...
#4305 [22:39] <Kealper> oh
#4306 [22:39] <mitpatterson> raskull, i think its a dropped item
#4307 [22:39] <Kealper> then reinstall window
#4308 [22:39] <Kealper> windows
#4309 [22:39] <Kealper> other than that, i have no idea
#4310 [22:39] <Anon1154> FUCK THAT SHIT MINECRAFT IS A FUCKING PEICE OF EURO SHIT!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#^#%$!#!&%#$#!%%&
#4311 [22:39] <raskull> mitpatterson: what makes you think it's not man made?
#4312 [22:39] <Anon1154> I loled
#4313 [22:39] <Kealper> calm down there, killer
#4314 [22:39] <mitpatterson> only a few of us on the server, and none of us built it
#4315 [22:39] <xolotl> If that were chunk corruption it'd be a full 16x16
#4316 [22:40] <Kealper> and what xolotl said
#4317 [22:40] <Anon1154> I loled
#4318 [22:40] <xolotl> (or rather: if it were chunk corruption it'd just be an empty 16x16 hole)
#4319 [22:40] <Kealper> that is not big enough to be a corrupt chunk
#4320 [22:40] <raskull> only a few of us? cmon... it's def man made if it's on a sever
#4321 [22:40] <Wug> there are many kinds of chunk corruption
#4322 [22:40] <Kealper> if it's on a multiplayer server, it's 100% man made, and if everyone says they didn't do it, they are lieing
#4323 [22:40] <Wug> im something of an expert
#4324 [22:40] <Wug> ts 0% manmade
#4325 [22:41] <Anon1154> MINECRAFT NEEDS TO BE FIXED
#4326 [22:41] <Kealper> if it's on single player, then i'll eat my hat
#4327 [22:41] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :<
#4328 [22:41] <raskull> Kealper: is your hat made of cheese or steak?
#4329 [22:41] <Wug> this particular form of corruption is presumably caused by an error during saving where the compressed stream gets cut off very early on
#4330 [22:41] <Kealper> cloth :/
#4331 [22:41] <mitpatterson> i reverted to a snapshot from 24 hours ago(after the world got screwed another way) so was 24 hours ago, i restored taht snap shot a few hours ago, i've been on the server the whole time, i would have seen someone build it
#4332 [22:41] <Wug> its probably on smp, ive never seen it on ssp before
#4333 [22:41] <aetherian> Kealper: is it all old hat?
#4334 [22:42] <Kealper> no :>
#4335 [22:42] <mitpatterson> plut it didn't show up until AFTER i reboot the server again
#4336 [22:42] <Kealper> :<*
#4337 [22:42] <Rui_rui> Hey, would anyone happen to know what Notch's personal e-mail is?
#4338 [22:42] <aetherian> :>
#4339 [22:42] <Kealper> well...that's weird
#4340 [22:42] <VoxelHead> :-)
#4341 [22:42] <Kealper> Rui_rui: markus@mojang.com
#4342 [22:42] <aetherian> something's a foot
#4343 [22:42] <Wug> if you rebooted the server incorrectly while it was saving, that could've caused it
#4344 [22:42] <Rui_rui> Thanks.
#4345 [22:42] <Wug> aways use /stop people
#4346 [22:42] <mib_zvbkd1> still nothing tried it all again, makes it to mojang window then poof disapears
#4347 [22:42] <Kealper> actually i'd have to agree with Wug on that, i might have to start eating my hat
#4348 [22:42] <mitpatterson> wug, no, i did this: "Save-all" after that was done, i did "stop"
#4349 [22:43] <raskull> I have a generated render of my world with something similar to that, but it's only ever been seen in the cartographer render.. so I always assumed it was a problem with the way cartographer handled the files
#4350 [22:43] <Wug> idk then
#4351 [22:43] <Wug> its beta
#4352 [22:43] <raskull> it was never visible in game
#4353 [22:43] <Wug> something went wrong somehow
#4354 [22:43] <Wug> ???
#4355 [22:43] <Wug> broken chunks
#4356 [22:44] <mitpatterson> if anyone wants to see it in person come to the server on the Ip i'm connect to IRC from
#4357 [22:44] <Kealper> mitpatterson: 1.4?
#4358 [22:44] <mitpatterson> yah
#4359 [22:45] <xolotl> I don't think anyone denied that it was on your server. :)
#4360 [22:45] <raskull> who knows.. check it out for yourself: http://raskull.com/misc/mc/wierdness.png
#4361 [22:45] <mitpatterson> i know, just letting you know if you happened to want to examin it
#4362 [22:45] <raskull> I checked for it in game, and re-rendered it with cartographer, and it was gone
#4363 [22:45] <aetherian> does everyone here have their own site o.o
#4364 [22:45] <raskull> aetherian: I have, for years :P
#4365 [22:46] <mitpatterson> yes aetherian
#4366 [22:46] <mitpatterson> mine is mitpatterson.com
#4367 [22:46] <mitpatterson> lol
#4368 [22:46] <aetherian> I've been meaning to get one, to be truthful
#4369 [22:46] <raskull> this is what happens when you work for a web hosting company for a few years :P
#4370 [22:46] <Dark_Fox_> mine is abandocadia.com
#4371 [22:46] <Kealper> mine is kealper.com :P
#4372 [22:46] <Dark_Fox_> Though I'm a lazy arse
#4373 [22:46] <aetherian> Kealper: what does kealper even mean
#4374 [22:46] <Kealper> mashup of my real name, what's aetherian even mean >.>
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#4376 [22:46] <mitpatterson> Kealper, did you want to check this out in person?
#4377 [22:46] <raskull> oh! I have another view of it
#4378 [22:46] <AG_Scott> My site is the best.
#4379 [22:47] <AG_Scott> scottdollins.com
#4380 [22:47] <AG_Scott> i want to make it more minimal.
#4381 [22:47] <Kealper> mitpatterson: meh, it's probably a fail then....when i was saying it was a person's bidding, i thought you just logged in to some random server and seen it there
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#4383 [22:47] <raskull> here's the other angle: http://raskull.com/misc/mc/wierdness2.png
#4384 [22:47] <Wug> ag_scott - you can't.
#4385 [22:48] <mitpatterson> Kealper, ah, yah, it's mine, so i have full control
#4386 [22:48] * VoxelHead is away: toilet
#4386 [22:48] <mitpatterson> VoxelHead, TMI
#4387 [22:48] <Wug> that's totally a chunk error
#4388 [22:48] <Wug> BOTS POOP?
#4389 [22:48] <AG_Scott> i'm thinking about just centering "go away." in font size 70.
#4390 [22:48] <Kealper> that one does
#4391 [22:48] <Kealper> lol
#4392 [22:48] <Dark_Fox_> AG_Scott: Get rid of the HTML, just point the default page to a text file
#4393 [22:48] <raskull> maybe mitpatterson is getting the same thing.. I dunno. but mine only appears when it's rendered with a mapping program
#4394 [22:48] <mitpatterson> yah i've noticed VoxelHead has become very human latley
#4395 [22:48] <Wug> lol index.txt
#4396 [22:49] <Kealper> lul
#4397 [22:49] <aetherian> Kealper: what does aetherian mean?
#4398 [22:49] <xolotl> raskull: Mind sharing the world file?
#4399 [22:49] <xolotl> s/file/dir/
#4400 [22:49] <mitpatterson> xolotl, who? me or raskull
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#4402 [22:49] <raskull> xolotl: sure, lemme copy the world dir on my server into there
#4403 [22:49] <aetherian> it is referring to the aether, as in place between heaven and earth. it is basically just a semi narcissistic name.
#4404 [22:49] <raskull> I'll zip it for ya
#4405 [22:49] <Kealper> figuring how it started with raskull:, i'd say raskull lol
#4406 [22:49] <aetherian> as in, one who is from the aether
#4407 [22:49] <xolotl> mitpatterson: I was more interested in the "doesn't show up in Minecraft but does in mappers" map
#4408 [22:49] <mitpatterson> ah, k
#4409 [22:50] <aetherian> brb
#4410 [22:50] <Kealper> aetherian: so... a citizen of the Aether? lol
#4411 [22:50] <raskull> eh? what started with me?
#4412 [22:50] <Kealper> <+xolotl> raskull: Mind sharing the world file?
#4413 [22:51] <aetherian> Kealper: yes.
#4414 [22:51] <Kealper> aetherian: fair enough
#4415 [22:51] <aetherian> and not aether as in, in mythology, the stuff that surrounds everything
#4416 [22:51] <mitpatterson> Kealper, so when you thought a person made it, how could they make that? since there is bedrock(without moding it)
#4417 [22:51] <raskull> oh, I see mitpatterson's question..
#4418 [22:51] <raskull> totally missed that somehow
#4419 [22:51] <Kealper> mitpatterson: i figured it was on some random server with /give lol
#4420 [22:52] <mitpatterson> ah, lol, i use /give a lot, lol
#4421 [22:52] <Kealper> /give username 7 64 <-- griefmania
#4422 [22:52] <aetherian> /give aetherian 46 64
#4423 [22:52] <aetherian> insta fun
#4424 [22:52] <Kealper> lol
#4425 [22:52] <aetherian> (it's tnt)
#4426 [22:52] <mitpatterson> what is 7 bedrock?
#4427 [22:52] <Wug> ^ yes
#4428 [22:53] <raskull> xolotl: ok, there is a world.zip in there now
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#4430 [22:54] <xolotl> raskull: grabbing now, thanks
#4431 [22:54] <raskull> however if you're gonna play it, the spawn point is a ways away from it.. I can fetch you the coordinates if you want
#4432 [22:54] <raskull> that image was cropped
#4433 [22:54] <xolotl> raskull: Ah, might be handy
#4434 [22:55] <raskull> ok.. gonna take a bit to get there heh
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#4436 [22:55] <xolotl> heh, or whatever
#4437 [22:55] <xolotl> Was actually gonna load it up in an external viewer, might be quicker
#4438 [22:55] <raskull> not really a problem that needs solving, if that's what you're after. I don't evern run that map on my server any more
#4439 [22:55] <raskull> I just figured your curious
#4440 [22:56] <xolotl> I'm just interested to see what's there
#4441 [22:56] <raskull> ok
#4442 [22:56] <xolotl> I dig into minecraft data files pretty often
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#4444 [22:56] <raskull> yeah, try rendering it with a mapper and see if it does it for you, too
#4445 [22:56] <Wug> I could fin it in about a minute if you can
#4446 [22:56] <Wug> care*
#4447 [22:56] <Wug> and fix*
#4448 [22:56] <raskull> naw, like I said, I don't even play that world any more
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#4450 [22:57] <raskull> we've been playing on a new seed for a month or so
#4451 [22:57] <mitpatterson> wow, just found a nother werid ness, a chunk of land just up and raised it self up in the air higher than it was
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#4454 [23:00] <bokaholic> HOw does one set their server to not be public?
#4455 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Don't give out the IP, set up a whitelist
#4456 [23:01] <bokaholic> Oh. i thought it was something in server.props.
#4457 [23:01] <raskull> they should impliment a password feature
#4458 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Whitelist is just as good.
#4459 [23:03] <raskull> is it just me, or do the coloured sheep seem much more common now? all except the brown ones
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#4461 [23:07] <xolotl> raskull: Well actually I can't seem to find that on a map from a recent c10t
#4462 [23:08] <raskull> that's because I'm a dumbass and gave you my current world rofl
#4463 [23:09] <raskull> lemme re-zip the right one
#4464 [23:09] <xolotl> ha
#4465 [23:09] <xolotl> awesome
#4466 [23:10] <raskull> ok, download it again, sorry heh
#4467 [23:12] <raskull> hmm I just noticed something that I'm never realized before.. the ambient world sounds that indicate a cave is nearby.. they are playing from a certain spot, because with headphones on I could hear it coming from the left..
#4468 [23:12] <raskull> does the sound actually play from where the cave is, you think?
#4469 [23:16] <raskull> ah, it actually says on the wiki that that emenate from the cave
#4470 [23:16] <raskull> interesting
#4471 [23:17] <bokaholic> Sleeping in bed didn't make a new spawn point for me.. ;.;
#4472 [23:17] <raskull> yeah I watched a video that said that appears to be bugged
#4473 [23:17] <xolotl> bokaholic: I think it works in SSP but not in SMP
#4474 [23:18] <raskull> makes sence in a way, on smp you might want people to stay at the default spawn for reading of rules, etc
#4475 [23:18] <xolotl> raskull: Okay, so I'm guessing it was just your mapper which was freaking out; here's how that area looks on a recent c10t: http://imgur.com/m78nH
#4476 [23:18] <xolotl> And with that I'm going to scamper off AFK
#4477 [23:18] * xolotl waves
#4477 [23:19] <raskull> xolotl: yeah that seems right
#4478 [23:19] <raskull> l8r
#4479 [23:22] <bokaholic> So.. Do seeded worlds randomly make houses and stuff?
#4480 [23:22] <raskull> no
#4481 [23:22] <bokaholic> Cause I'm wondering far away from spawn and I found a house. :I
#4482 [23:22] <bokaholic> :wtf
#4483 [23:22] <raskull> someone created it there then?
#4484 [23:22] * bokaholic o.o;;;;
#4484 [23:23] <raskull> you're on an smp server I assume?
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#4491 [23:57] * DopeGhoti gives VoxelHead a maze of twisty passages, all alike
#4491 [23:57] <VoxelHead> mmmmmm maze of twisty passages, all alike
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#4493 [23:58] <heater> anyone know how i can roll back to 1.3
#4494 [23:58] <DopeGhoti> If you did not keep your older version, you cannot.
#4495 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Only if you backed up your 1.3
#4496 [23:58] <heater> crap!
#4497 [23:59] <heater> i updated to 1.4 not realizing the server i play on doesnt want to update yet
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