#1 [00:00] <bread> :<
#2 [00:00] * Jelleh applies itself to bread
#2 [00:01] <bread> :O
#3 [00:01] <bread> I like Jam better!
#4 [00:01] <Jelleh> jam was taken. so was jelly
#5 [00:01] <Jelleh> jelly's online now
#6 [00:03] <DanteMaxwell> k
#7 [00:04] <DanteMaxwell> so I just looked for a java removal tool
#8 [00:04] <DanteMaxwell> and the search suggested javara
#9 [00:04] <DanteMaxwell> so I'll use that, as well as add/remove, if I have to
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#11 [00:05] <Potus2036> Anybody want help with an in game project?
#12 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> What project?
#13 [00:06] <Potus2036> I will help you.
#14 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry, misread that.
#15 [00:07] <Potus2036> lol :)
#16 [00:07] <Potus2036> Need anything?
#17 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, usually people come here for help, not to give out help.
#18 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> But feel free to stick around
#19 [00:09] <Potus2036> Well, have amultiplayer server?
#20 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Used to myself, until 1.3 and the lag issue cropped up
#21 [00:10] <DanteMaxwell> AHA
#22 [00:10] <DanteMaxwell> here we go
#23 [00:10] <Potus2036> What do you play on?
#24 [00:10] <DanteMaxwell> AVG just ID'd something
#25 [00:10] <DanteMaxwell> on my reinstall
#26 [00:10] <Potus2036> MIne did before
#27 [00:11] <DanteMaxwell> it detected the file C:\Program Files\Java\Jre6\Zipper.exe
#28 [00:11] <DanteMaxwell> as malware
#29 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> What in the..
#30 [00:11] <Potus2036> Same thing.
#31 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't sound like a good file.
#32 [00:11] <DanteMaxwell> going into detailed description
#33 [00:11] <DanteMaxwell> threat type: corrupted
#34 [00:11] <DanteMaxwell> severeity: 4/5
#35 [00:12] <DanteMaxwell> I think I just virus vault that one
#36 [00:12] <DanteMaxwell> xD
#37 [00:12] <DanteMaxwell> wtf was up with that, though
#38 [00:12] <DanteMaxwell> I downloaded the offline installer file from Oracle
#39 [00:12] <DanteMaxwell> .....
#40 [00:13] <DanteMaxwell> removing that file caused the installation to fail
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#42 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Ah, looks like that file is actually good
#43 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> False positive
#44 [00:14] <DanteMaxwell> oh crap
#45 [00:14] <DanteMaxwell> now it won't let me proceed
#46 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Update avg?
#47 [00:15] <DanteMaxwell> "Error 1304: Error writing to file C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\zipper.exe. Verify that you access to that directory."
#48 [00:15] <DanteMaxwell> that's the error
#49 [00:16] <DanteMaxwell> so I just restored the "malware" via the virus vault
#50 [00:16] <DanteMaxwell> and now the install finished
#51 [00:18] <DanteMaxwell> k
#52 [00:18] <DanteMaxwell> I can access minecraft via my internet browser
#53 [00:18] <DanteMaxwell> but still can't through a standalone
#54 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Weird...
#55 [00:19] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#56 [00:20] <DanteMaxwell> and on the browser, I run fancy graphics with maximum render range no problem
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#58 [00:22] <DanteMaxwell> ...
#59 [00:23] <DanteMaxwell> What's left to try?
#60 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> I'm just confused... you have over a gig of RAM free, on a 3gig total computer..
#61 [00:23] <DanteMaxwell> Apart from a total wipe of my computer, xD
#62 [00:23] * VoxelHead is back
#62 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Did you mess with environment variables before?
#63 [00:24] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#64 [00:24] <DanteMaxwell> in the same path
#65 [00:24] <DanteMaxwell> I found out that I spelled something wrong
#66 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Could you go back to your environment variables, go to the path, and copy/paste the entire thing here?
#67 [00:24] <DanteMaxwell> this whole procedure fixed the spelling error
#68 [00:25] <DanteMaxwell> %CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem;C:\Program Files\ESTsoft\ALZip;C:\Program Files\Common Files\DivX Shared\;C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe
#69 [00:25] <Wug> the end of that says ...\javaw.exe
#70 [00:25] <Wug> it should be just the path, not the filename
#71 [00:26] <Wug> it should read:
#72 [00:26] <DanteMaxwell> ELL OH FECKIN ELL
#73 [00:26] <DanteMaxwell> ok
#74 [00:26] <Wug> %CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem;C:\Program Files\ESTsoft\ALZip;C:\Program Files\Common Files\DivX Shared\;C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin
#75 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> \
#76 [00:26] <Chr|s> whoa
#77 [00:26] <Wug> trailing slash seems to be optional
#78 [00:26] <DanteMaxwell> my bad
#79 [00:26] <DanteMaxwell> that was me taking the instruction to paste in the line
#80 [00:26] <Wug> some have it, some don't
#81 [00:26] <DanteMaxwell> TOO literally
#82 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#83 [00:27] <DanteMaxwell> Alas
#84 [00:27] <DanteMaxwell> that didn't change things, x_x
#85 [00:27] <DanteMaxwell> still the same damn error
#86 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> I don't get this...
#87 [00:28] <DanteMaxwell> Welcome to my world! xD
#88 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose you've got teamviewer?
#89 [00:28] <DanteMaxwell> I've been reading page after page about the standard procedures to kill the bug
#90 [00:28] <DanteMaxwell> actually
#91 [00:28] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#92 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> I might want to see this for myself
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#94 [00:30] <DanteMaxwell> ok
#95 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Alright
#96 [00:30] <DanteMaxwell> should I just open it up?
#97 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Sure, show me
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#99 [00:33] <Wug> grey, if you don't fix it lemme have a peek
#100 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> This is.. yeah
#101 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> gimme a couple minutes
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#103 [00:36] <DanteMaxwell> lolwut
#104 [00:37] <DanteMaxwell> wow, 64 was the number
#105 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> I.. wait. what?
#106 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Thing is.. you're not going to be able to run minecraft smoothly on 64 megs of ram
#107 [00:37] <DanteMaxwell> rofl
#108 [00:38] <DanteMaxwell> wth
#109 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Now I'm a little confused
#110 [00:39] <DanteMaxwell> hrm
#111 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> 256 megs of ram is a little better
#112 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> but it errors on 512
#113 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Strange, because your system has over a gig free
#114 [00:40] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#115 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Going to check what processes are running
#116 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> You've got a gig and a half free of physical RAM...
#117 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> but for some reason, java can't allocate more than 256M of ram
#118 [00:42] <xales> GreyVulpine: Sometimes antivirus software messes with that (particularly Norton)
#119 [00:42] <DanteMaxwell> and it showed my commit charge at 1.4 gb
#120 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> I don't see a reason
#121 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> I'm looking at av
#122 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> It's just AVG, free
#123 [00:42] <xales> hmm, that's interesting
#124 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure avg doesn't do anything special
#125 [00:43] <xales> it..shouldn't
#126 [00:43] <xales> maybe hijackthis would help?
#127 [00:43] <Fausterion> Thanks for the help again
#128 [00:43] <Fausterion> goodbye
#129 [00:43] <DanteMaxwell> ...
#130 [00:43] <xales> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HijackThis
#131 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> He's got a lot of processes running on his machine
#132 [00:43] <DanteMaxwell> yeah
#133 [00:43] <DanteMaxwell> maybe I should trim that down a bit
#134 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> hijack this will be a LONG text to read
#135 [00:43] <DanteMaxwell> one sec
#136 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> It's alright
#137 [00:44] <DanteMaxwell> I'll disable my logitech features
#138 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to disable anything
#139 [00:44] <DanteMaxwell> I was just going to close them, to reduce the list
#140 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> Logitech won't do anything to limit java from getting the RAM it needs
#141 [00:44] <DanteMaxwell> true enough
#142 [00:45] <DanteMaxwell> well, I guess I can look into it
#143 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> The batch file works right now, with 256M of ram as its argument..
#144 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> But.. yeah.
#145 [00:45] <DanteMaxwell> but for now, it looks like I'm functional
#146 [00:45] <DanteMaxwell> that's a hell of an improvement from where I was
#147 [00:45] * GreyVulpine nods
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#148 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Come back later, maybe one of us will have an idea
#149 [00:45] <DanteMaxwell> the strange part was that I was running the batch file at 1024
#150 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Unless Wug wants to take a whack at it
#151 [00:46] <DanteMaxwell> and the problem just came back yesterday
#152 [00:46] <DanteMaxwell> right after I updated
#153 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, yeah.
#154 [00:46] <Wug> i'll look at it
#155 [00:46] <Wug> pm teamspeak info?
#156 [00:46] <Wug> teamviewer*
#157 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Sure, go ahead DanteMaxwell.
#158 [00:46] <Wug> derp
#159 [00:47] * GreyVulpine does some research.
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#160 [00:49] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :[
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#163 [00:57] <mib_azo1ct> Hello?
#164 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#165 [00:57] <mib_azo1ct> New to this ^_^'
#166 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> I assume you need help?
#167 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Just tell us your problem, start from the beginning.
#168 [00:58] <mib_azo1ct> I just bought minecraft and can't seem to play it, anyone who wouldn't mind helping would be a saint
#169 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you play it? What error(s) do you get?
#170 [00:58] <mib_azo1ct> I downloaded it and when I try to log in, it says "can't connect to minecraft.net!"
#171 [00:58] <mib_azo1ct> 99% of the time
#172 [00:58] <mib_azo1ct> It worked once
#173 [00:58] <xales> Check the time and date on your computer
#174 [00:58] <mib_azo1ct> downloaded, then went black
#175 [00:58] <xales> make sure it is correct
#176 [00:59] <mib_azo1ct> 12:58 at 4/4/2011, which is right
#177 [00:59] <mib_azo1ct> I reinstalled java
#178 [00:59] <xales> what OS?
#179 [00:59] <mib_azo1ct> Win 7 :/
#180 [00:59] <xales> Go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc
#181 [00:59] <xales> and open the 'hosts' file in Notepad
#182 [00:59] <xales> copy all of the contents to http://pastebin.com/
#183 [00:59] <xales> and click 'Submit'
#184 [00:59] <xales> then give us the link
#185 [01:01] <mib_azo1ct> http://pastebin.com/Jqgxtqg8
#186 [01:01] <mib_azo1ct> You guys are awfully helpful already, much more support than on forums and such x.x
#187 [01:01] * rev-lemon wonders in mc is there a way to use the orgional mc music that comes on during the mid-day and evening and morning part of the day ?
#187 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> We try to be..
#188 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall xales?
#189 [01:02] <xales> GreyVulpine: not if it's the launcher
#190 [01:02] <mib_azo1ct> I've done the following
#191 [01:02] <xales> mib_azo1ct: can you play in the browser, at http://minecraft.net/game/
#192 [01:02] <mib_azo1ct> Several reinstalls
#193 [01:02] <mib_azo1ct> Fails in browser :/ freezes at Done Loading
#194 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_azo1ct - You mean, delete the .minecraft folder?
#195 [01:02] <mib_azo1ct> reinstalled my nvidia drivers
#196 [01:02] <mib_azo1ct> yeah, deleted it
#197 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> in %appdata%?
#198 [01:03] <mib_azo1ct> reinstalled java
#199 [01:03] <mib_azo1ct> Yessir
#200 [01:03] <mib_azo1ct> Well in "roaming"
#201 [01:03] * GreyVulpine nods
#201 [01:03] <mib_azo1ct> or is that not the same thing?
#202 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Same thing
#203 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Sec.. lemme see if the auth server is up or down.
#204 [01:05] <mib_azo1ct> Well, if it were down, I don't see why it'd prevent me from playing offline
#205 [01:05] <mib_azo1ct> Not that I'm well-versed in this x.x
#206 [01:05] <Vector> so long as you have the files already
#207 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, are you using the new launcher mib_azo1ct? Have you tried downloading the latest minecraft.exe/jar?
#208 [01:05] <Vector> but you won't be able to log into any server that requires authentication
#209 [01:05] <mib_azo1ct> I downloaded it last night
#210 [01:05] <Vector> well
#211 [01:05] <mib_azo1ct> Unless there's been a new .exe launcher since about 2am last night my time
#212 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nope.
#213 [01:06] <Vector> after it times out, you should get an option to play offline
#214 [01:06] <rev-lemon> where do you get to on the exe/jar file mib before you get like crash ?
#215 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Then, I'm thinking, firewall?
#216 [01:06] <mib_azo1ct> I disabled my firewalls
#217 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> rev-lemon - It's "Can't connect to minecraft.net" in the launcher
#218 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> What firewalls mib_azo1ct?
#219 [01:06] <rev-lemon> oh
#220 [01:06] <mib_azo1ct> windows firewalls with advanced security
#221 [01:06] <mib_azo1ct> all 3 options are down
#222 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Anything else?
#223 [01:06] <rev-lemon> ok wired i just got in
#224 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Same here rev-lemon.
#225 [01:07] <mib_azo1ct> I'm not aware of my computer having any other firewalls
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#227 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Running any security software?
#228 [01:07] <rev-lemon> mib what about av ? antivirus
#229 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Antivirus?
#230 [01:07] <VoxelHead> Let me consult a fortune cookie.
#231 [01:07] <rev-lemon> lol
#232 [01:07] <mib_azo1ct> I don't think I have any antivirus installed
#233 [01:07] <Vector> heh
#234 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Can you double-check?
#235 [01:07] <VoxelHead> :-)
#236 [01:07] <turtlexiv> Anybody ever have problems when unoccupied minecarts getting stuck in corners? (I'm running FalseBookCart if that matters).
#237 [01:08] <rev-lemon> gray does win7 have auto protect on it self from virus scanner ?
#238 [01:08] <turtlexiv> Not sure if it's because the walls are too close, or what
#239 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> huh?
#240 [01:08] <Vector> ?
#241 [01:08] <mib_azo1ct> I don't see any other firewall programs, but not sure what I'd be looking for anyhow
#242 [01:09] <rev-lemon> like say xp you can have windows security antivirus if you have it updated enough, from mc
#243 [01:09] <rev-lemon> ms*
#244 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Ah.. hmm.
#245 [01:09] <xales> mib_azo1ct: Try making a new account on your computer, and playing under that
#246 [01:09] <rev-lemon> mib_azo1ct whats near your time at the bottem on the task bar what is listed there if anything ?
#247 [01:10] <mib_azo1ct> haha, it's saying I need to find an antivirus program and turn my firewalls on
#248 [01:10] <VoxelHead> I congratulate you in recognising my superiority and choosing me to be your love pig!
#249 [01:10] <Vector> lol
#250 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#251 [01:10] <VoxelHead> Fine.
#252 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> dang bot
#253 [01:10] <Vector> that's a generic windows message
#254 [01:10] <Vector> it bitches when firewall is off
#255 [01:10] <mib_azo1ct> it also says that I can update win7
#256 [01:11] <mib_azo1ct> but haven't in a long time
#257 [01:11] <mib_azo1ct> generally those updates tend to hurt my access to games, not help them
#258 [01:11] <rev-lemon> might be worth checking to see what needs to be updated mib
#259 [01:11] <rev-lemon> hum, depends on the updates you do
#260 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_azo1ct - Using your Windows+R key on your keyboard, could you type in: "cmd" without quotes at the run command
#261 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Then, at the command prompt, type in: nslookup minecraft.net
#262 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> What does the last line say?
#263 [01:13] <mib_azo1ct> address?
#264 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#265 [01:13] <mib_azo1ct> 50.16.203.217
#266 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> same thing with www.minecraft.net?
#267 [01:14] <mib_azo1ct> no
#268 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> er, nslookup www.minecraft.net
#269 [01:14] <mib_azo1ct> there's two different addresses
#270 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> What's the second address?
#271 [01:15] <mib_azo1ct> 68.87.64.150
#272 [01:15] <mib_azo1ct> that's the first
#273 [01:15] <mib_azo1ct> the second is 50.16.203.217
#274 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> er, um
#275 [01:15] <mib_azo1ct> the top something about comcast
#276 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. that's not right..
#277 [01:15] <rev-lemon> oh hes ip
#278 [01:15] <rev-lemon> maybe ?
#279 [01:15] <mib_azo1ct> I think so
#280 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#281 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_azo1ct (~Mibbit@c-76-117-60-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined.
#282 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> That's not his ip address
#283 [01:16] <rev-lemon> k
#284 [01:16] <mib_azo1ct> is says "server"
#285 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm...
#286 [01:16] <xales> GreyVulpine: probably someone running an auth server on their home connection ._.
#287 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> That would be the first time we've seen it here..
#288 [01:17] <xales> or comcast failing to resolve it
#289 [01:17] <xales> cns.inflow.pa.bo.comcast.net is the rDNS
#290 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> How do we fix that? You've looked at the hosts file
#291 [01:17] <xales> no idea what that's for, however
#292 [01:17] <xales> GreyVulpine: changing DNS server might fix it
#293 [01:17] <rev-lemon> mib have you rebooted today or anytime after the changes you have made ?
#294 [01:17] <mib_azo1ct> What I fail to understand is why I can't play offline if it gives me that option
#295 [01:18] <mib_azo1ct> Yes I have :/
#296 [01:18] <rev-lemon> k
#297 [01:18] <mib_azo1ct> reinstalled java
#298 [01:18] <mib_azo1ct> rebooted
#299 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_azo1ct - At the command prompt, can you type in: ipconfig /flushdns
#300 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Then try nslookup minecraft.net again
#301 [01:19] <mib_azo1ct> it gave me the same answer top
#302 [01:19] <mib_azo1ct> then
#303 [01:19] <mib_azo1ct> dns request was timed out. timeout was 2 seconds.
#304 [01:19] <mib_azo1ct> then the same bottom answer
#305 [01:19] <xales> GreyVulpine: I think it's comcast DNS fail
#306 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> You sure?
#307 [01:20] <rev-lemon> mib you behind a router ?
#308 [01:20] <mib_azo1ct> why would this prevent me from playing offline?
#309 [01:20] <mib_azo1ct> I use a wired router
#310 [01:20] <xales> mib_azo1ct: You have to login once to play offline
#311 [01:20] <mib_azo1ct> linksys
#312 [01:20] <rev-lemon> ok
#313 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, okay, let's try this mib_azo1c.
#314 [01:20] <rev-lemon> he says hes downloaded it already though
#315 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Can you log into your linksys router?
#316 [01:20] <mib_azo1ct> btw, you guys are awesome for being so patient
#317 [01:20] <mib_azo1ct> Uhhhh, had this router forever...
#318 [01:20] <mib_azo1ct> no idea how to do that :/
#319 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Try the browser, and connect to http://192.168.1.1
#320 [01:21] <mib_azo1ct> says I need a username and password
#321 [01:21] <rev-lemon> mib_azo1ct have you got a cabel running to the linksys ? you need direct connection to, it grey not sure if wireless will still do what cable can do
#322 [01:21] <mib_azo1ct> Which... I don't know
#323 [01:21] <VoxelHead> Willless wire.
#324 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Try "admin" for the password
#325 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> without quotes
#326 [01:21] <VoxelHead> Without quotes... wuotes.
#327 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#328 [01:22] <mib_azo1ct> my cable goes to modem, then from modem to router, for the record
#329 [01:22] <VoxelHead> hai!
#330 [01:22] <rev-lemon> np
#331 [01:22] <bread> hi VoxelHead !
#332 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_azo1ct - Try using admin for the password
#333 [01:22] * VoxelHead returns
#333 [01:22] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#334 [01:22] <mib_azo1ct> I'm in
#335 [01:22] <bread> :D
#336 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> leave the username blank
#337 [01:22] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE in? feel these nipples!
#338 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> alright.
#339 [01:22] <VoxelHead> :o)
#340 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> omg..
#341 [01:22] * xales kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: gtfo)
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#343 [01:22] <bread> :>
#344 [01:22] <bread> I <3 u Vox
#345 [01:22] <Potus2036> Any servers open for SMP?
#346 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> okay, mib_azo1ct - First page is Setup/Basic setup, right?
#347 [01:23] <xales> GreyVulpine,
#348 [01:23] <xales> 01:22:22 <VoxelHead> Successfully set modes { -bmotion } on #MineCraftHelp.
#349 [01:23] <xales> 01:22:22 <VoxelHead> [22:23] #xales# chanset #MineCraftHelp -bmotion
#350 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea what that means
#351 [01:23] <mib_azo1ct> yes it is, grey
#352 [01:23] <xales> it disabled the talking thing
#353 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_azo1ct - About halfway down the page, do you have a "static DNS" line?
#354 [01:23] <Vector> *yawn*
#355 [01:23] <Vector> notch basically killed my gaming experience
#356 [01:23] <xales> GreyVulpine: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, if you forgot
#357 [01:24] <Vector> until he patches this
#358 [01:24] * GreyVulpine nods
#358 [01:24] <Vector> AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
#359 [01:24] <mib_azo1ct> there's a seperate tab for "ddns service"
#360 [01:24] <mib_azo1ct> is that it?
#361 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> No.
#362 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> On the Basic Setup page
#363 [01:24] <Potus2036> Any freebuild servers?
#364 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Down the page, do you have a Static DNS 1/2/3 line?
#365 [01:25] <mib_azo1ct> um... options are...
#366 [01:25] * nupanick [nupanick@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#367 [01:25] <nupanick> !check njl.student.rit.edu
#368 [01:25] <nupanick> ffffff
#369 [01:25] <mib_azo1ct> host name, domain name, mtu, local IP, Subnet mask, local DHCP, Start IP Address, Number of address, dhcp address range, and client lease time
#370 [01:25] <rev-lemon> grey what about screenshot from mib ?
#371 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I might need a screenshot
#372 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_azo1ct - Can you give me a screenshot of that page? Upload it to imgur.com
#373 [01:26] <Potus2036> What is the port for 129.21.115.133
#374 [01:27] <mib_azo1ct> http://imgur.com/GqTFY
#375 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Potus2036 - This isn't exactly the channel for looking for servers
#376 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> try:
#377 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> ??> Potus2036 smp/servers
#378 [01:27] <VoxelHead> Potus2036: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#379 [01:27] <VoxelHead> Potus2036: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#380 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. why doesn't that page... one sec mib_azo1ct
#381 [01:28] <nupanick> Hey, does anyone know what it means if I forwarded the port and can log in from my machine just fine, but everyone else gets an error?
#382 [01:29] <xales> nupanick: If you are on a college connection, it's probably being filtered or blocked, or you don't have a public IP at all
#383 [01:29] <rev-lemon> nupanick prob means you havent port forwarded correctly, whats the ip your forwarding
#384 [01:29] <nupanick> I dunno, my dormmate set it up and he says it worked just fine for him
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#386 [01:30] <rev-lemon> what os ?
#387 [01:30] <Potus2036> Ok. Everything is timing out
#388 [01:30] <nupanick> windoze
#389 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_azo1ct - This is usually what that page looks like
#390 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> http://screenshots.modemhelp.net/screenshots/Linksys/BEFSR41_V3_Router/Setup/Basic_Setup/Obtain_an_IP_Automatically/Index-1.jpg
#391 [01:30] <rev-lemon> nupanick type !check
#392 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> What I'm looking for, are the static DNS lines
#393 [01:31] <xales> GreyVulpine: I actually recognize that model number
#394 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't know why your linksys router doesn't have it.
#395 [01:31] <xales> it's a very, very old router, before they even put the wireless in the ethernet routers
#396 [01:31] <mib_azo1ct> my router is ANCIENT...
#397 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> But um..
#398 [01:31] <nikki> hello all
#399 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Check the screenshot..
#400 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> It's the same model
#401 [01:31] <mib_azo1ct> I could upgrade the firmware?
#402 [01:31] <xales> ^
#403 [01:31] <xales> try that
#404 [01:32] <nupanick> !check
#405 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> I suppose updating the firmware could help
#406 [01:32] <nupanick> !check njl.student.rit.edu
#407 [01:32] <nupanick> okay time to go config
#408 [01:32] <xales> nupanick: Is that the IP your router actually has?
#409 [01:32] <nupanick> my ip apparently is only visible to people on campus or something
#410 [01:34] <nupanick> !check njl.student.rit.edu
#411 [01:34] <nupanick> oh COME ON
#412 [01:34] <mib_azo1ct> getting the update downloaded, sorry for the wait
#413 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> Take your time
#414 [01:34] <rev-lemon> nupanick how are you getting your internets its though a edu stream so whos paying for it
#415 [01:34] <rev-lemon> mib take your ime
#416 [01:34] <rev-lemon> lol*
#417 [01:35] <nikki> Does anyone know about "failed to get system properties] on linux version?
#418 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> nikki - That's not the full error..
#419 [01:35] <xales> nikki: Can you pastebin the full error?
#420 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Can you pastebin.com th..
#421 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> bah
#422 [01:35] <xales> :>
#423 [01:35] <nikki> yes
#424 [01:36] <nikki> http://pastebin.com/FcWM8Fe8
#425 [01:36] <nikki> I'm not very good at linux..but I'm trying lol
#426 [01:37] <xales> nikki: what distro of Linux?
#427 [01:37] <nikki> ubuntu
#428 [01:37] <xales> run `sudo lshw` and pastebin that
#429 [01:37] <nikki> okay, one moment
#430 [01:38] <nupanick> !check 129.21.115.133
#431 [01:38] <nupanick> weird
#432 [01:39] <nikki> http://pastebin.com/4tZVnSmQ
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#435 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> xales.. perhaps video drivers?
#436 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-260.19.44-driver.html
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#438 [01:42] <nikki> I'll go download those:)
#439 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Hold on, xales knows more about *nix than I do
#440 [01:43] <xales> oh, sorry
#441 [01:43] <nikki> Do you want to know what I currently have for my drivers?
#442 [01:43] <xales> nikki: Go to Administration->System->Additional drivers
#443 [01:43] <xales> (might be called Hardware Drivers)
#444 [01:43] <xales> make sure everything there is checked
#445 [01:44] <mib_azo1ct> great, not that I've updated firmware I can't get back to the setup page
#446 [01:44] <mib_azo1ct> nothing loads x.x
#447 [01:44] <xales> mib_azo1ct: try powercycling it
#448 [01:45] <mib_azo1ct> try whatnow?
#449 [01:45] <xales> turn the router off and back on
#450 [01:45] <mib_azo1ct> okay, brb
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#452 [01:46] <TurboSpirit> hey, this is mib from before
#453 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> We know
#454 [01:46] <TurboSpirit> oh haha
#455 [01:47] <TurboSpirit> right, IP and such
#456 [01:47] <TurboSpirit> scary
#457 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Can you access the router now?
#458 [01:48] <TurboSpirit> yeah
#459 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Do you get the DNS rows now?
#460 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Static DNS?
#461 [01:48] <TurboSpirit> no
#462 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Same as before?
#463 [01:49] <xales> GreyVulpine: Can always just change it locally
#464 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Bleh.. fine
#465 [01:49] * GreyVulpine hates doing it locally...
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#466 [01:49] <xales> I do too, but probably easier
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#468 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Alright... um. TurboSpirit, can you tell me what version of Windows you're running?
#469 [01:50] <TurboSpirit> win7
#470 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Can you go to your control panel, go to the network heading..
#471 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I hate looking for this in Win7.
#472 [01:52] <nikki> [[sorry, not to interrupt, but here's my hardware http://i.imgur.com/MnRNE.png]]
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#474 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> TurboSpirit - Can you look for the Network and Sharing Center.
#475 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> There, along the left side, should be "Change Adapter Settings"
#476 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Let me know when you see it
#477 [01:53] <TurboSpirit> there
#478 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Click on it, then look for the Local Area Connection. Right click on it, and go to properties
#479 [01:53] <TurboSpirit> done
#480 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Look for IP v4 protocol
#481 [01:54] <TurboSpirit> k
#482 [01:54] <TurboSpirit> found
#483 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Go to the properties for it
#484 [01:54] <TurboSpirit> done
#485 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Bottom heading is "Use the following DNS address"
#486 [01:54] <TurboSpirit> yep
#487 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Switch it from obtain auotmatically to use...
#488 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Then, in the un-greyed out boxes, use:
#489 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> 8.8.8.8
#490 [01:55] <aetherian> ima back
#491 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> and 8.8.4.4
#492 [01:55] <Dark_Fox> Mm.. Delicious google DNS servers
#493 [01:55] <aetherian> wait wha... google public DNS?
#494 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#495 [01:55] <aetherian> o.o
#496 [01:55] <nikki> google will rule the world haha
#497 [01:55] <TurboSpirit> done
#498 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> now, once you put those addresses in, press okay.
#499 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> And you can close all that, and try minecraft again
#500 [01:55] <TurboSpirit> This seems shady... I like you, Grey
#501 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Hah, it's google's public DNS servers
#502 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/
#503 [01:56] <TurboSpirit> (explodes)
#504 [01:56] <TurboSpirit> Not working
#505 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Really?
#506 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> What in the.. um.
#507 [01:57] * GreyVulpine also pokes xales
#507 [01:57] <TurboSpirit> does ANY of this have to do with the fact that I got this with a gift code
#508 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe so TurboSpirit
#509 [01:57] <xales> GreyVulpine: need to flush DNS first
#510 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Ooooo right
#511 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> xales - http://i.imgur.com/MnRNE.png
#512 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> That's from nikki
#513 [01:58] <TurboSpirit> okay, flushed
#514 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> TurboSpirit - Can you go back to the ..
#515 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#516 [01:58] <TurboSpirit> Kept it open
#517 [01:58] <xales> GreyVulpine: the version 173 one is the correct one, IIRC
#518 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps a reinstall of video drivers?
#519 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> TurboSpirit - close and relaunch minecraft?
#520 [01:58] <nikki> okay, I'll switch it to 173
#521 [01:59] <TurboSpirit> can't connect
#522 [01:59] <TurboSpirit> Man, this is really burning my beans
#523 [01:59] <aetherian> I've been meaning to change to that...
#524 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> TurboSpirit - In the command prompt, can you do nslookup minecraft.net again
#525 [02:00] <TurboSpirit> top is the google dns
#526 [02:00] <TurboSpirit> 8.8.8.8.
#527 [02:00] <TurboSpirit> 8.8.8.8*
#528 [02:00] <TurboSpirit> bot is 50.16.203.217
#529 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Right, and the last line, starting with address
#530 [02:00] <xales> nikki: uncheck the 'NVIDIA (stuff) [current]' one and check 'NVIDIA (stuff) [173]'
#531 [02:00] <TurboSpirit> name: minecraft.net
#532 [02:00] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine, do you not need to flushdns? o:
#533 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> TurboSpirit just did
#534 [02:00] <AG_Scott> oh
#535 [02:00] <AG_Scott> fail
#536 [02:00] <AG_Scott> i'll just quit talking lol
#537 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Pfft.
#538 [02:01] <TurboSpirit> I'm making someone a nice beach summer home if they make this work
#539 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> was minecraft.net the one that was returning the 68. whatever address the last time?
#540 [02:02] * xales brb, finding food
#540 [02:02] <TurboSpirit> no, that was me
#541 [02:02] <TurboSpirit> minecraft.net's address has been constant
#542 [02:02] <nikki> I'll brb to restart with 173 driver...my computer was in a flood though so it might take 5-100 reboots for the screen to actually come on:/
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#544 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#545 [02:03] <nikki> we're saudering the gpu on thursday, so it'll actually work right haha
#546 [02:03] <nikki> I think I spelled that wrong, forgive me
#547 [02:04] <TurboSpirit> does any of this have to do with my default browser and such?
#548 [02:04] <TurboSpirit> or that I'm on 64bit win 7?
#549 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> I don't think so..
#550 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Double check the date and time on windows 7, go to the
#551 [02:04] <username17> Anyone able to help me with redstone? Using the 2nd door on this guide: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=27519 and I would like to move the switch that forces the door to lock.
#552 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Internet Time heading, and choose Change Settings
#553 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Then update Now
#554 [02:05] <rev-lemon> username17 so move it then use the same link its used to the new switch position
#555 [02:07] <TurboSpirit> it said an error occured but that it last synched one minute ago
#556 [02:07] <username17> rev-lemon, the switch is next to a redstone torch, if I move the torch and draw a circuit to it, it doesnt seem to work
#557 [02:08] <xales> TurboSpirit: is the date and time otherwise correct?
#558 [02:08] <Wug> AUGH
#559 [02:08] <Wug> OUGH
#560 [02:08] <TurboSpirit> 2:08 eastern standard
#561 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#562 [02:08] <Wug> I HATE JAVA
#563 [02:08] <rev-lemon> does the redstone tourch turn on or off when the switch is acivated nick17
#564 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy
#565 [02:08] <xales> (also, check the address of login.minecraft.net)
#566 [02:08] <Wug> believe it or not, I couldn't fix it
#567 [02:08] <xales> and check that the year is 2011 :P
#568 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Wug - ...
#569 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> You okay there?
#570 [02:08] * Wug asplodes
#570 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Heh, sorry Wug.
#571 [02:09] <TurboSpirit> the year is 2011 haha
#572 [02:09] <Wug> lol
#573 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> The guy can run minecraft for now, so that's a win
#574 [02:09] <Wug> it seems like an old installation of windows, maybe it's just going funny
#575 [02:09] <Wug> like they all do after a few yeard
#576 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps.
#577 [02:09] <TurboSpirit> I checked login.minecraft.net
#578 [02:09] <Wug> oh well, the browser version still works somehow
#579 [02:10] <TurboSpirit> 50.17.234.159
#580 [02:10] <xales> yeah, that's correct
#581 [02:10] <xales> you still aren't able to connect?
#582 [02:10] <TurboSpirit> nosir
#583 [02:10] <Wug> I can't connect either
#584 [02:10] <rev-lemon> hey grey did we work out what mib's prob was finally or did he not come back from restarting hes router
#585 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> we're working on it right now... meet TurboSpirit.
#586 [02:11] * Wug needs food and sleep
#586 [02:11] <Wug> fill me in>
#587 [02:11] <rev-lemon> k
#588 [02:11] <Wug> on what's going on now
#589 [02:11] <rev-lemon> oh i see :P
#590 [02:11] <TurboSpirit> the only thing that gets me to log in was a text file I had to make into a .bim
#591 [02:11] <TurboSpirit> bin*
#592 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Original problem, "Can't connect to minecraft.net" via the launcher
#593 [02:12] <rev-lemon> yup yup
#594 [02:12] <Wug> uuhh
#595 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> We checked time/date, we did google's DNS in windows' adapter
#596 [02:12] <xales> wait...what?
#597 [02:12] <xales> TurboSpirit: What do you mean?
#598 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> nslookup brings back the right ip address
#599 [02:12] <Wug> try ipconfig /flushdns?
#600 [02:12] <TurboSpirit> I did something I read on a forum post
#601 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> we have, twice
#602 [02:12] <Wug> windows 7?
#603 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#604 [02:12] <TurboSpirit> "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe" -Xms512M -Xmx768M -jar "C:\Program Files (x86)\Minecraft\Minecraft.exe"
#605 [02:12] <Wug> is java allowed through the firewall
#606 [02:12] <TurboSpirit> pasted that into notepad
#607 [02:13] <TurboSpirit> saved as a .bin
#608 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> .bin? you mean .bat?
#609 [02:13] <Wug> is that particular javaw allowed through the firewall
#610 [02:13] <TurboSpirit> yess
#611 [02:13] <TurboSpirit> yeS*
#612 [02:13] <TurboSpirit> ugh
#613 [02:13] <TurboSpirit> yes*
#614 [02:13] <TurboSpirit> and when I run that, the launcher loads, and allows me to log in
#615 [02:13] <TurboSpirit> it downloads
#616 [02:13] <TurboSpirit> then immediately goes to a black screen
#617 [02:13] <Wug> do you have teamviewer?
#618 [02:14] <TurboSpirit> o.o no?
#619 [02:14] <Wug> mayhaps you should get it
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#621 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> It may help for one of us to look at your computer
#622 [02:15] <TurboSpirit> brb
#623 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> How you doing there nikki?
#624 [02:16] <nikki> I just rebooted, I'm using nvidia 173 drivers. I ran minecraft.jar in java and I logged in, it flashed a mojando(or something similair screen) for about 10 seconds and then it went away:/
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#626 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> It went away?
#627 [02:16] <nikki> Yeah...like it closed the window by itself
#628 [02:16] <nikki> I'll try it once more?
#629 [02:17] <xales> nikki: I don't think the card you have is new enough to run Minecraft, but I'm not sure. It's pretty seriously old, so it might not. Even if it did, sadly, the performance would be horrendous
#630 [02:17] <Wug> nikki, are you sure 173 is the newest version?
#631 [02:17] <aetherian> I should try to play ff1 again someday...
#632 [02:17] <nikki> oh man..
#633 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> he's running 6150, isn't it?
#634 [02:17] <Wug> (you're on linux right?)
#635 [02:17] <TurboSpirit> I got teamviewer
#636 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> That should be plenty enough for minecraft, right?
#637 [02:17] <xales> GreyVulpine: a NVidia Go! 5140
#638 [02:17] <xales> err
#639 [02:17] <nikki> no, it's not the newest, but that's what somebody told me was correct, yes I'm on linux
#640 [02:17] <xales> 6150
#641 [02:18] <xales> not a real 6150
#642 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Oh, a Go..
#643 [02:18] <TurboSpirit> I'm running a 6150, but it's internal
#644 [02:20] <nikki> oh hey, it's working!
#645 [02:20] <nikki> Yeah the lag is...pretty meh
#646 [02:20] <TurboSpirit> lucky x.x
#647 [02:21] <nikki> maybe I can turn down the graphics?
#648 [02:21] <nikki> haha
#649 [02:22] <xales> you can try, but don't expect too much
#650 [02:23] <Wug> you should be able to adjust the graphical intensity from the nvidia driver control menu thingee
#651 [02:23] <nikki> It's all smooth with "fast" and "normal" as opposed to fancy and far, thank you guys SO much for the help:D
#652 [02:23] <Wug> np
#653 [02:23] <Wug> i guess
#654 [02:23] <Wug> it mostly wasnt me
#655 [02:23] <nikki> lol it's okay, xales/grey/wug, i loves you!
#656 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#657 [02:24] * Wug <3
#657 [02:24] * xales <4
#657 [02:25] <TurboSpirit> sigh
#658 [02:28] <rev-lemon> turbo thought you got to the main screen you could try running with the exe now if you want, with out the jar file
#659 [02:28] <TurboSpirit> pardon?
#660 [02:29] <TurboSpirit> Lost me there
#661 [02:29] <rev-lemon> well your trying to run the game with the bat file
#662 [02:29] <rev-lemon> which is the minecraft.jar file
#663 [02:29] <rev-lemon> corect ?
#664 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> What happened to teamviewer TurboSpirit? Wasn't Wug going to take a look at your computer for you?
#665 [02:30] <TurboSpirit> I got teamviewer
#666 [02:30] <Wug> pm me/us the session and password
#667 [02:30] <rev-lemon> btw turbo you can run it stright and not install teamviewer
#668 [02:30] <rev-lemon> lol
#669 [02:31] <TurboSpirit> I did for future use if this... delightful game ever works and gives me future issues
#670 [02:42] <aetherian> oh no. oh no oh no oh no.
#671 [02:42] <Thoatt> *breaks down wall*
#672 [02:42] <Thoatt> OH YEAH!
#673 [02:42] <aetherian> what is this, kool-aid
#674 [02:45] <Thoatt> perhaps.
#675 [02:46] <aetherian> hehehe
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#682 [03:03] <Wug> greyvulpine, I fixed turbospirits
#683 [03:03] <Wug> it was a ! in the username
#684 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> Wait what?
#685 [03:07] <Wug> mmhm
#686 [03:07] <Wug> (in his windows username)
#687 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> But.. um, huh?
#688 [03:08] <Wug> its a known problem, i've seen it a few other times
#689 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> I don't think I've ever had a (!) in the username without the input==null error
#690 [03:08] <Wug> who knows...
#691 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Weird, glad you got it figured out then
#692 [03:08] <Wug> i looked at his system info from teamviewer's little popup thing and was like ...
#693 [03:08] <Wug> ...
#694 [03:08] <Wug> ...
#695 [03:09] <Wug> ............
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#697 [03:09] <Wug> (this was just after I uninstalled java)
#698 [03:09] <Wug> lol
#699 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#700 [03:09] <Wug> terrible timing
#701 [03:09] <Wug> not only just one java either, but both the 32 and 64 bit versions
#702 [03:10] <Wug> (also, the 32 bit one was logging in, but the 64 bit one was giving 'can't connect')
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#704 [03:11] <aetherian> nighty-night, guys
#705 [03:11] <aetherian> I'm laying myself down onto the hay early
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#707 [03:15] <Thoatt> gnight brah
#708 [03:15] <Thoatt> so am I lol
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#712 [03:27] <Wug> greyvulpine, how does one go about acquiring owner access on aubot?
#713 [03:27] <Wug> also, hello voxelhead
#714 [03:28] <Thoatt|bed> Wug: GreyVulpine does not own aubot.
#715 [03:28] <Thoatt|bed> kelaper does.
#716 [03:31] <Thoatt|bed> although looking in the files, grey has ownership access... so He should know lol
#717 [03:32] <Thoatt|bed> But anyways, you'd have to ask kealper.
#718 [03:32] <Kealper> rawr?
#719 [03:33] <Kealper> uhh....you aquire awesomeness of aubot via the spoils system
#720 [03:33] <Thoatt|bed> aka, suck this, blow that, etc.
#721 [03:34] <Thoatt|bed> Kealper: ....
#722 [03:34] <Thoatt|bed> how
#723 [03:34] <Kealper> how...>
#724 [03:34] <Kealper> ?*
#725 [03:34] <Thoatt|bed> do i have control of aubot, but I'm not set up as an authorative user? lol
#726 [03:34] <Kealper> the module has it's own list
#727 [03:34] <Kealper> the mchelp one
#728 [03:35] <Thoatt|bed> ohh... herp...
#729 [03:35] <Kealper> and it's the one that is doing most of the stuff seen in here
#730 [03:35] <Kealper> .auth Thoatt 1
#731 [03:35] <Kealper> !rehash
#732 [03:36] <Thoatt|bed> well that works... lol
#733 [03:36] <Thoatt|bed> too bad I forgot half the commands >.>
#734 [03:36] <Kealper> change your name to the normal one and do !status
#735 [03:36] <Thoatt> !status
#736 [03:36] <Kealper> worked?
#737 [03:37] <Thoatt> yeah lol
#738 [03:37] <Kealper> k
#739 [03:38] <xales> !dehash
#740 [03:38] <xales> :3
#741 [03:38] <Kealper> lol
#742 [03:38] <xales> !rehash
#743 [03:38] <xales> lol
#744 [03:38] <xales> .ini
#745 [03:38] <xales> :O
#746 [03:38] <Kealper> ini files are easy to work with lol
#747 [03:39] <Thoatt> anywho... time to find some food.. then go afk
#748 [03:39] <Kealper> and it shows up as a "Configuration settings" file in windows lol
#749 [03:39] <Thoatt> kk, gnight peeps
#750 [03:40] * Kealper waves
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#762 [04:48] <mib_stmkq5> Hello?
#763 [04:48] <mib_stmkq5> Anyone here?
#764 [04:49] <rev-lemon> whats up mib
#765 [04:49] <mib_stmkq5> I have a question about Minecraft Classic client
#766 [04:49] <rev-lemon> ?
#767 [04:49] <mib_stmkq5> How can I host it on my own server
#768 [04:49] <mib_stmkq5> I cant expect it to be around (or up) forever.
#769 [04:50] <rev-lemon> i belive you can have your own server how it runs is up to your bandwith
#770 [04:50] <mib_stmkq5> I have a server, McLawl...I was wondering how to get the client.
#771 [04:51] <rev-lemon> i really cant help with that since i do not know
#772 [04:52] <mib_stmkq5> know anyone who does?
#773 [04:52] <rev-lemon> most likely someone else just not me lol
#774 [04:53] <mib_stmkq5> and BTW, when I conected to IRC, it said: You are banned from the channel #minecraft. However this is my first time here. I thing someone got user/host banned and it's banned the whole chatbox
#775 [04:53] <rev-lemon> have you registed your nick
#776 [04:54] <mib_stmkq5> nope
#777 [04:54] <mib_stmkq5> again, first time
#778 [04:54] <rev-lemon> well thats prob why,
#779 [04:54] <rev-lemon> well need to reg your nick then identify to it
#780 [04:54] <rev-lemon> then, you should beable to join
#781 [04:54] <rev-lemon> type in /ns help <
#782 [04:55] <rev-lemon> with out the <
#783 [04:55] <rev-lemon> lol
#784 [04:57] <Kealper> lol....
#785 [04:57] <Kealper> mib_* is probably banned
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#788 [05:09] * Thoatt is not surprised.
#788 [05:11] <Kealper> right then
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#791 [05:24] <uhoh> hello
#792 [05:24] <charredbread> uhoh
#793 [05:24] <uhoh> yup
#794 [05:25] <Thoatt> http://i.imgur.com/B9eIX.gif
#795 [05:25] <uhoh> quick question about launching a server, I have it set up and almost running
#796 [05:25] <charredbread> Thoatt: impressive.
#797 [05:25] <charredbread> I think I'll tell my mom to try that.
#798 [05:25] <Thoatt> lol
#799 [05:25] <Thoatt> D:
#800 [05:25] <uhoh> I'm getting the error java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: method java.net.ServerSocket.setPerformancePreferences with signature (III)V was not found.
#801 [05:26] <uhoh> but it doesn't kill the server, i can still use the console
#802 [05:26] <charredbread> :>
#803 [05:26] <Thoatt> linux? windows?
#804 [05:26] <uhoh> linux
#805 [05:26] <uhoh> remote server to be precise
#806 [05:27] <Thoatt> Any other errors? does the server work ok?
#807 [05:27] <uhoh> can't connect, unfortunately lol
#808 [05:28] <Thoatt> uninstall java, then reinstall it
#809 [05:28] <Thoatt> make sure you use sun java
#810 [05:29] <uhoh> it is
#811 [05:29] <adamkex> anyone had a freebsd server?
#812 [05:29] <uhoh> not sure if its rhe4 or centos
#813 [05:29] <Thoatt> adamkex: I have
#814 [05:29] <uhoh> same package base iirc
#815 [05:29] <adamkex> Thoatt: what jvm do i need for the server?
#816 [05:30] <uhoh> no matter, i'll keep playing with it. might just be a port forwarding error
#817 [05:30] <Thoatt> uhoh: uname -a
#818 [05:30] <adamkex> openjdk6? openjdk7? linux-sun-jdk16?
#819 [05:30] <Thoatt> adamkex: sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
#820 [05:30] <adamkex> Thoatt: what do i need the plugin for?
#821 [05:31] <Thoatt> if those are the only options, the last.
#822 [05:31] <Thoatt> Becuase it's fun to have! :D
#823 [05:31] <Thoatt> idk.. I always install it anyways lol
#824 [05:31] <adamkex> hehe, there doesn't seem to be the plugin available, but linux-sun-jre16 is there
#825 [05:32] <Thoatt> then use that one.
#826 [05:32] <adamkex> yeah installing that one now
#827 [05:32] <Thoatt> k
#828 [05:34] <Thoatt> http://i.imgur.com/D6Tjn.jpg
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#836 [06:01] <adamkex> Thoatt: hehehehe
#837 [06:01] <Thoatt> :)
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#840 [06:18] <gPad2002> Mum
#841 [06:18] <gPad2002> Hm*
#842 [06:19] <gPad2002> McPlusPlus never made it back
#843 [06:19] * gPad2002 checks
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#845 [06:20] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#846 [06:20] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.4 (Anonymous) - Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:14:33 -0400
#847 [06:20] <gPad2002> There he is
#848 [06:20] <gPad2002> ~stfu
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#850 [06:25] <Pashia> hi hi
#851 [06:25] <Pashia> does someone know something about mods?
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#854 [06:30] <adamkex> are the boxes still away?
#855 [06:30] <adamkex> still there*
#856 [06:30] <Pashia> ?
#857 [06:30] <adamkex> april fool boxes
#858 [06:31] <Thoatt> still there
#859 [06:31] <Thoatt> 95
#860 [06:31] <Pashia> have not seen them
#861 [06:31] <Pashia> came here with my own dumb question
#862 [06:32] <Thoatt> they are item number 95 lol
#863 [06:32] <Thoatt> Not too many people here deal with mods Pashia.
#864 [06:32] <Pashia> i know
#865 [06:32] <Thoatt> ?? mods
#866 [06:32] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#867 [06:32] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#868 [06:32] <Pashia> but one is anaf for me ^^
#869 [06:33] <Pashia> oups sry vixenhead, did not know that
#870 [06:33] <Pashia> but my question was, if i install a mod, will my server still work?
#871 [06:34] <Thoatt> mod on what? the server or the client?
#872 [06:34] <Pashia> client
#873 [06:34] <Thoatt> Yes, the server is not connected to the client in terms of mods.
#874 [06:35] <Pashia> real thing is that i want the millenair mod in my client, if i do this can i still go on my local server?
#875 [06:35] <Thoatt> Anything you do specifically to the client will not affect the server.
#876 [06:35] <Thoatt> I'm not sure about that mod.
#877 [06:36] <Pashia> oke
#878 [06:37] <Pashia> thank you
#879 [06:37] <Thoatt> np, sorry I couldn't answer your question specifically
#880 [06:37] <Thoatt> but wait. before you go
#881 [06:38] <Thoatt> You can always try it.
#882 [06:38] <Thoatt> if it doesn't work:
#883 [06:38] <Thoatt> ?? win/reinst
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#885 [06:38] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#886 [06:38] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#887 [06:38] <Thoatt> just do that if you don't want the mod anymore
#888 [06:39] <Pashia> haha i keep this one
#889 [06:39] <Thoatt> ok :)
#890 [06:39] <Pashia> i just need to find out if it works on my client ...... and i have no plan how to find a village
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#901 [07:12] <BarryCarlyon> ut oh
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#908 [07:20] <gPad2002> Sup BarryCarlyon
#909 [07:20] <BarryCarlyon> netsplit :-D
#910 [07:21] <gPad2002> :P
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#914 [07:28] <Aska990> hello
#915 [07:28] <gPad2002> H.
#916 [07:28] <Thoatt> hello
#917 [07:28] <gPad2002> Hi.*
#918 [07:30] <Aska990> can someone help me ?
#919 [07:30] <Thoatt> ?? ask
#920 [07:30] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#921 [07:30] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#922 [07:30] <gPad2002> Ninja'd
#923 [07:30] <Aska990> I just re-intalled Minecraft
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#925 [07:30] <Thoatt> Need a damn hotkey for that or something...
#926 [07:30] <gPad2002> :P
#927 [07:31] <Aska990> re-downloaded minecraft.jar, re-updated
#928 [07:31] <Thoatt> Aska990: go on....
#929 [07:31] <Aska990> and...I got no sound
#930 [07:31] <Thoatt> for... the entire computer? or just minecraft
#931 [07:31] <Thoatt> ?
#932 [07:31] <Aska990> just minecraft
#933 [07:31] <Thoatt> Windows or linux?
#934 [07:31] <Aska990> sorry, Linux
#935 [07:31] <Aska990> Unbuntu 10.10
#936 [07:31] <Aska990> *Ubuntu
#937 [07:32] <Thoatt> Any game sounds? or none at all?
#938 [07:32] <Aska990> none at all
#939 [07:32] <Aska990> first time I played after re-installing it, I had the waterfalls sound
#940 [07:33] <Aska990> and the cow
#941 [07:33] <Thoatt> Ever had sound on linux with minecraft before?
#942 [07:33] <Thoatt> hmmm.
#943 [07:33] <Aska990> but not the "walking sound", the "breaking block" sound...
#944 [07:33] <gPad2002> You have sound on in the options right?
#945 [07:33] <Aska990> and now, I re-installed Minecraft 2 times, and no sound at all
#946 [07:33] <Aska990> yes, of course
#947 [07:34] <gPad2002> Could be a problem with your audiod
#948 [07:34] <Thoatt> Are you sure you have sun java? openjdk has sound issues for mc
#949 [07:34] <Aska990> hmm, I'm using openjkd
#950 [07:34] <Aska990> *openjdk
#951 [07:34] <Aska990> should I try to install sun java ?
#952 [07:34] <gPad2002> Yes
#953 [07:34] <Thoatt> uninstall, install sun-java60jre
#954 [07:34] <gPad2002> You should
#955 [07:35] <Thoatt> java6*
#956 [07:35] <Thoatt> OR
#957 [07:35] <Aska990> k
#958 [07:35] <Thoatt> just install sun java and run
#959 [07:35] <Thoatt> this in terminal:
#960 [07:35] <Thoatt> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#961 [07:36] <Aska990> I must uninstall OpenJDK ?
#962 [07:36] <Thoatt> If you don't, run that command.
#963 [07:36] <Thoatt> if you do, you don't have to.
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#965 [07:36] <Thoatt> so if you uninstall it, and install sun, then no issues, if you don't uninstall, un that command and it should make sun java the default
#966 [07:37] <Aska990> thanks
#967 [07:37] <Thoatt> That's probably more confusing... just uninstall it lol
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#970 [07:37] <Aska990> yes, i'm uninstalling OpenJDK
#971 [07:38] <Aska990> ^^
#972 [07:38] <Thoatt> ok lol
#973 [07:38] <Thoatt> then just do:
#974 [07:38] <Aska990> to be sure there will be no conflicts
#975 [07:38] <Thoatt> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#976 [07:38] <Aska990> thanks, I was searching in synaptic
#977 [07:38] <Thoatt> kk lol
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#980 [07:39] <Thoatt> You could also download the x64 bins from java.com if you have 64-bit... it tends to run mc a bit better.
#981 [07:39] <Thoatt> but that's a bit more work than needed lol
#982 [07:40] <Thoatt> (if you have x64 that is)
#983 [07:40] <Aska990> hum, can not install sun-java6-jre
#984 [07:41] <Thoatt> do you have the partner repos enables?
#985 [07:41] <Thoatt> enabled*
#986 [07:41] <Aska990> hmmmmm
#987 [07:41] <Aska990> thanks ^^
#988 [07:42] <Thoatt> did you get it working? lol
#989 [07:42] <Aska990> intalling
#990 [07:42] <Thoatt> k
#991 [07:42] <Thoatt> :D
#992 [07:42] <Aska990> 16 min :(
#993 [07:42] <Thoatt> :/
#994 [07:43] * Thoatt goes back to playing guitar
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#996 [08:06] <Thoatt> Aska990: How far did you get so far? lol
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#998 [08:29] <Aska990> sorry I was gone
#999 [08:30] <Aska990> wash the dishes lol
#1000 [08:30] <Thoatt> :S
#1001 [08:30] <Aska990> well, java is installed
#1002 [08:30] <Aska990> testing
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#1004 [08:31] <Aska990> and still have no sound :-(
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#1006 [08:33] <Thoatt> ok Aska990
#1007 [08:33] <Thoatt> try running it with padsp
#1008 [08:33] <Thoatt> so
#1009 [08:33] <Thoatt> padsp java -jar Minecraft.jar
#1010 [08:34] <Aska990> get an error
#1011 [08:34] <Aska990> I paste it here ?
#1012 [08:34] <Thoatt> more than 3 lines -> pastebin it please
#1013 [08:36] <Aska990> http://pastebin.com/wUbHnt47
#1014 [08:36] <Thoatt> make sure you are in the directory where you have the Minecraft.jar
#1015 [08:37] <Thoatt> then try uhh...
#1016 [08:37] <Thoatt> padsp java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1017 [08:37] <Thoatt> that
#1018 [08:38] <Aska990> get an other error
#1019 [08:38] <Aska990> http://pastebin.com/MhEhedkV
#1020 [08:39] <Thoatt> using that last command?
#1021 [08:39] <Aska990> yes
#1022 [08:40] <Aska990> oh wait
#1023 [08:40] <Aska990> minecraft.jar was not marked as an executable
#1024 [08:41] <Thoatt> did it work?
#1025 [08:41] <Aska990> for this last command
#1026 [08:41] <Aska990> nope, same error
#1027 [08:43] <Aska990> Oo Oo Oo
#1028 [08:43] <Thoatt> Did you uninstall openjdk?
#1029 [08:43] <Aska990> sound came back
#1030 [08:43] <Aska990> wtf
#1031 [08:43] <Thoatt> you got it?
#1032 [08:43] <Aska990> 5 minutes ago, no sound, now, sound
#1033 [08:43] <Thoatt> ....
#1034 [08:43] <Thoatt> so...
#1035 [08:44] <Aska990> thanks anyway ^^
#1036 [08:44] <Thoatt> So... sound? no sound? what's going on lol
#1037 [08:44] <Aska990> now, sound
#1038 [08:44] <Thoatt> suddenly, sound?
#1039 [08:44] <Thoatt> lol
#1040 [08:44] <Aska990> yes ><
#1041 [08:45] <Thoatt> also...
#1042 [08:45] <Thoatt> you should update to the latest lwjgl :D
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#1053 [08:45] <Thoatt> lawd
#1054 [08:46] <Thoatt> ...
#1055 [08:46] <Thoatt> the hell? lol
#1056 [08:46] <Thoatt> all from the ~same ip? lol
#1057 [08:47] <Thoatt> Aska990: still here? lol
#1058 [08:47] <Aska990> yes
#1059 [08:47] <Aska990> what is lwjgl ?
#1060 [08:47] <Thoatt> Lightweight Java Game Library
#1061 [08:48] <Thoatt> download this: http://lwjgl.org/download.php
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#1063 [08:48] <Thoatt> extract to ~/.minecraft/bin folder
#1064 [08:52] <Aska990> the "lwjgl-2.7.1" folder or all the folders inside ?
#1065 [08:53] <Thoatt> the jar folder
#1066 [08:53] <Thoatt> look in the bin folder, there should be a lwjgl.jar in there
#1067 [08:53] <Thoatt> you want to replace that with the one from the zip file
#1068 [08:53] <Aska990> ok
#1069 [08:55] <Aska990> done
#1070 [08:55] <Aska990> and black screen at login :(
#1071 [08:55] <Thoatt> wtf srsly?
#1072 [08:55] <Thoatt> >.>
#1073 [08:55] <Thoatt> ?? lin/reinst
#1074 [08:56] <Thoatt> ?? linux/reinst
#1075 [08:56] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1076 [08:56] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
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#1078 [08:56] <Thoatt> wtf... the updated lwjgl shouldn't make a blackscreen error.
#1079 [08:57] <Aska990> so I must delete the bin folder and update minecraft ?
#1080 [08:57] <Thoatt> yeah...
#1081 [08:57] <Thoatt> that should not have made it blackscreen though...
#1082 [08:57] <Thoatt> updating that usually /solves/ a lot of linux errors.
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#1085 [09:03] <Aska990> sorry
#1086 [09:03] <Aska990> I stupidly closed the window ><
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#1088 [09:04] <Thoatt> lol
#1089 [09:06] <weezerle> i'm trying to setup a server but it wont let me connect: "Kicking /IP: You need to log in."-Error always appears
#1090 [09:08] <weezerle> i couldnt find a solution. i'm using ubuntu 10.10 and openjdk. the game is working fine, played offline and on different servers. has anyone a hint for me?
#1091 [09:08] <Tanjoodo> weezerle: Did you froward ports and everything?
#1092 [09:08] <Thoatt> weezerle: Is the server running in online mode?
#1093 [09:09] <weezerle> Tanjoodo: yes, portfots were forwarded. still, i treid to connect from "inside" my homenetwork first.
#1094 [09:10] <Thoatt> weezerle:
#1095 [09:10] <Thoatt> Is the server running in online mode?
#1096 [09:10] <weezerle> sorry where do i check it?
#1097 [09:10] <Thoatt> in the server.properties file
#1098 [09:11] <weezerle> is ist public=true
#1099 [09:11] <Thoatt> online
#1100 [09:11] <Thoatt> not public
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#1102 [09:11] <weezerle> no entry for that inside the config file
#1103 [09:11] <Badugga> Grey here? =)
#1104 [09:11] <Thoatt> online-mode
#1105 [09:11] <Thoatt> online-mode=true
#1106 [09:12] <weezerle> Thoatt: thx. i'll try that
#1107 [09:12] <Badugga> Greyvulpine here?
#1108 [09:12] <Thoatt> no Badugga
#1109 [09:12] <weezerle> Thoatt: is there a wiki entry for all options?
#1110 [09:12] <Badugga> Dang =/
#1111 [09:12] <Thoatt> weezerle: I have no idea lol
#1112 [09:12] <weezerle> Thoatt: found it
#1113 [09:13] <Badugga> What is the problem?
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#1115 [09:18] <lollydoddle> Finally, I think I got the right channel
#1116 [09:18] <Badugga> Hiya
#1117 [09:19] * lollydoddle waves
#1117 [09:19] <Badugga> Finally Tobias answered me =)
#1118 [09:19] <lollydoddle> I was wondering if someone could give me a heads up on an issue
#1119 [09:19] <Badugga> ?
#1120 [09:20] <Badugga> For what issue?
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#1122 [09:20] <lollydoddle> I can't for the life of me to get my server set up xD
#1123 [09:20] <lollydoddle> works fine for localhost, but I'm not sure how to make it accessible to someone else
#1124 [09:20] <Badugga> Hmm, you have forwarded your ports?
#1125 [09:20] <Badugga> What error does the other players get?
#1126 [09:20] <lollydoddle> 25565 on tcp and udp, but that's all
#1127 [09:20] <Badugga> okay
#1128 [09:21] <Badugga> Incoming and outgoing?
#1129 [09:21] <Badugga> Both?
#1130 [09:21] <lollydoddle> start and end range
#1131 [09:21] <lollydoddle> dunno about in/out
#1132 [09:21] <Badugga> Ok
#1133 [09:21] <Badugga> Hmm..
#1134 [09:21] <Badugga> U have tried could it work with VPN?
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#1136 [09:21] <Badugga> Like Hamachi
#1137 [09:21] <lollydoddle> checked on canyouseeme.org and says 25565 refused.. was thinking about it
#1138 [09:22] <lollydoddle> would it allow for more than just 1 to 1?
#1139 [09:22] <Badugga> Wait
#1140 [09:22] <Badugga> A second
#1141 [09:22] <Badugga> What config u have?
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#1148 [09:22] <lollydoddle> server config?
#1149 [09:22] <Badugga> u have correct ip on your servers config?
#1150 [09:22] <lollydoddle> let me check
#1151 [09:22] <Badugga> Mollstam!
#1152 [09:23] <Badugga> Wow
#1153 [09:23] <Badugga> :D
#1154 [09:23] <lollydoddle> gah, it is now xD
#1155 [09:23] <Badugga> its correct now?
#1156 [09:23] <Badugga> ur ip was wrong?
#1157 [09:23] <lollydoddle> yup
#1158 [09:23] <Badugga> Good =)
#1159 [09:23] <lollydoddle> it was from my modem, not router
#1160 [09:24] <Badugga> Server working?
#1161 [09:24] <lollydoddle> should I be able to connect from something other than localhost when server and MC are on the same system?
#1162 [09:25] <Badugga> Umm... Yea?
#1163 [09:25] <Badugga> Oh
#1164 [09:25] <lollydoddle> lol sorry, really new to this
#1165 [09:25] <Badugga> You should not run the same computer you are playing =/
#1166 [09:25] <lollydoddle> been playing on single player for a long while
#1167 [09:25] <Badugga> =)
#1168 [09:25] <Badugga> Okay, thats alright
#1169 [09:25] <lollydoddle> is it just not possible?
#1170 [09:25] <Badugga> It is possible, but the server would be veery laggy
#1171 [09:26] <Badugga> Of course you can use Hamachi
#1172 [09:26] <lollydoddle> I've got a custom comp I just built, so it shouldn't be a processing issue
#1173 [09:26] <Badugga> If its going to be friend server
#1174 [09:26] <Badugga> U have hamachi?
#1175 [09:26] <lollydoddle> yeah, but we're looking to allow randoms
#1176 [09:26] <Badugga> Okay
#1177 [09:26] <lollydoddle> I was looking into it
#1178 [09:26] <lollydoddle> but from what I see, it's a peer to peer and doesn't allow more than the two
#1179 [09:26] <Badugga> So the others are getting connection refused?
#1180 [09:27] <lollydoddle> I'm the only one that's tested it xD
#1181 [09:27] <Badugga> :D
#1182 [09:27] <Badugga> Okay
#1183 [09:27] <Badugga> I havent gotten my minecraft yet so =/
#1184 [09:27] <Badugga> I cant test it =(
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#1186 [09:28] <lollydoddle> I just tried with my public IP and got "failed to connect to the server. Connection refused:connect"
#1187 [09:28] <weezerle> Thoatt: still getting the disconnect and "need to login message" after changing options in server.properties
#1188 [09:28] <Badugga> hmm
#1189 [09:28] <Badugga> =/
#1190 [09:28] <Badugga> Weirdf
#1191 [09:28] <Badugga> Weird*
#1192 [09:29] <lollydoddle> ik, right?
#1193 [09:29] <Thoatt> do you have a firewall or anything blocking the server access to minecraft.net?
#1194 [09:29] <oldtopmanserver> Wait, you have hamachi?
#1195 [09:29] <weezerle> no firewall installed.
#1196 [09:29] <lollydoddle> I can disable them all and still can't get through, I've been playing with it
#1197 [09:29] <Badugga> He wants it public =/
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#1199 [09:31] <lollydoddle> disabled router firewall and both public and private on system. same error message
#1200 [09:31] <lollydoddle> can other people be allowed into hamachi?
#1201 [09:32] <Thoatt> yup
#1202 [09:32] <Badugga> Its virtual private network
#1203 [09:32] <Badugga> VPN
#1204 [09:32] <Badugga> Like the others would be in localhost
#1205 [09:33] <lollydoddle> ahh, so basically a LAN over the net?
#1206 [09:33] <Badugga> Yea
#1207 [09:33] <Thoatt> yep
#1208 [09:33] <lollydoddle> ok, I just didn't know if only 2 could use it, the server and a user
#1209 [09:33] <lollydoddle> well heck, afk for a min, gonna look into this
#1210 [09:33] <Badugga> ok
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#1212 [09:37] <oldtopmanserver> ??> lollydoodle fubar/hamachi
#1213 [09:37] <VoxelHead> lollydoodle: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1214 [09:37] <VoxelHead> lollydoodle: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1215 [09:38] <Badugga> Voxel, guess what =)
#1216 [09:38] <Badugga> mollstam finally answered me! =)
#1217 [09:38] <Thoatt|bed> Vox is a bot... lol
#1218 [09:38] <Badugga> Waht
#1219 [09:38] <Badugga> I think no...
#1220 [09:38] <Thoatt|bed> Yes... it is...
#1221 [09:38] <Badugga> He speaked with meh yesterday :D
#1222 [09:39] <Badugga> Lolz
#1223 [09:39] <Badugga> Im failin
#1224 [09:39] <Badugga> again
#1225 [09:39] <Badugga> :D
#1226 [09:39] <Thoatt|bed> That was xales speaking through the bot then.
#1227 [09:39] <adamkex> disgracefull 10 points from griffindor!
#1228 [09:39] <lollydoddle> thanks for the tips badugga
#1229 [09:39] <oldtopmanserver> Vox has some artificial stupidity routines built into it
#1230 [09:39] <Badugga> Its working?
#1231 [09:40] <Badugga> Youre welcome =)
#1232 [09:40] <lollydoddle> just logged in with my new IP
#1233 [09:40] <Badugga> =)
#1234 [09:40] <Badugga> Congrats!
#1235 [09:40] <oldtopmanserver> Like: "I'm watching a movie" and "Back" and "I'll miss you <name of persone wjo left>"
#1236 [09:40] <Badugga> But remember,
#1237 [09:40] <lollydoddle> server shows me coming from an outside IP, so it's working =]
#1238 [09:40] <Badugga> Now when ur using hamachi
#1239 [09:40] <oldtopmanserver> But you can activate it with commands
#1240 [09:40] <Badugga> You have to use the hamachi ip as server iå
#1241 [09:40] <Badugga> ip
#1242 [09:41] <lollydoddle> I've already changed it =]
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#1244 [09:41] <Badugga> Good =)
#1245 [09:41] <Badugga> Congrats!
#1246 [09:41] <lollydoddle> tyvm
#1247 [09:41] <Badugga> Im going to play with you when i finally get my gift codea =)
#1248 [09:41] <Badugga> i have waited.... six days...
#1249 [09:41] <lollydoddle> for what?
#1250 [09:42] <lollydoddle> mail?
#1251 [09:42] <Badugga> for gift code ;(
#1252 [09:42] <Badugga> my friend bought it for me
#1253 [09:43] <Badugga> And the gift code is not in his mail, or at her profile page.
#1254 [09:43] <Badugga> i mean his
#1255 [09:43] <Badugga> :D
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#1257 [09:43] <Timur> hello
#1258 [09:43] <weezerle> i'm still always getting the anoying "you need to log in" disconnect message when trying to connect to my server. what can i do?
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#1260 [09:44] <lollydoddle> is the server.exe running when you try?
#1261 [09:44] <lollydoddle> swear to god I saw that as a yahoo answer
#1262 [09:44] <weezerle> no, server.jar is running
#1263 [09:45] <Timur> I have a friend that wants to join my server, but he just keeps getting "User not premium", does anyone know what to do?
#1264 [09:46] <pine> Did he buy the game?
#1265 [09:46] <Timur> yes
#1266 [09:46] <Timur> he also have account on minecraft.net
#1267 [09:46] <Timur> atleast he's played SP
#1268 [09:47] <oldtopmanserver> timur: Where did he buy it from?
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#1270 [09:47] <Timur> 2sec, ill get him on the phone
#1271 [09:48] <Timur> yes he has
#1272 [09:48] <Timur> he bought it around 2 months ago
#1273 [09:49] <oldtopmanserver> Whats his username?
#1274 [09:49] <Timur> what do you need it for?
#1275 [09:50] <Badugga> he checks it with /haspaid
#1276 [09:50] <Badugga> .jps
#1277 [09:50] <oldtopmanserver> To check is the mc servers see that he has paic
#1278 [09:50] <oldtopmanserver> paid*
#1279 [09:50] <Badugga> i mean .jsp
#1280 [09:50] <oldtopmanserver> I know he paid, but the question is whether or not the minecraft servers think so
#1281 [09:50] <Timur> i only get error when i try
#1282 [09:51] <weezerle> that "you need to login2-error is a "i'll quickly check if you bought the game"-test isnt it? why the hell is minecraft server then kicking me and telling me to login, after i have logged in. how to fix this? it really frustrating...
#1283 [09:52] <weezerle> also its trying to login with my routers internal ip, could it be that, when its different to my external ip (with wich i login to minecraft) taht he is thinking i have not logged in? and how can i fix this?
#1284 [09:52] <weezerle> nice now, other players can connect to the server, still not me...
#1285 [09:53] <Badugga> You username?
#1286 [09:53] <Badugga> your
#1287 [09:53] <Badugga> *
#1288 [09:53] <weezerle> same as in irc: weezerle
#1289 [09:53] <Badugga> ok
#1290 [09:53] <oldtopmanserver> !paid weezerzerle
#1291 [09:54] <weezerle> oh id di
#1292 [09:54] <weezerle> did
#1293 [09:54] <oldtopmanserver> !paid weezererle
#1294 [09:54] <oldtopmanserver> !paid oldtopman
#1295 [09:54] <Timur> !paid kozlovsky
#1296 [09:54] <Badugga> i have paid =/
#1297 [09:54] <oldtopmanserver> Weezer, did you buy it from mc.net?
#1298 [09:54] <Thoatt|bed> Badugga:
#1299 [09:54] <Badugga> but i havent gotten the game =((
#1300 [09:54] <Thoatt|bed> stop failing.
#1301 [09:54] <Timur> !paid baglergutten
#1302 [09:54] <Thoatt|bed> !paid weezerle
#1303 [09:54] <Thoatt|bed> He's paid
#1304 [09:54] <weezerle> at least paypal got the money from my bank account
#1305 [09:54] <Thoatt|bed> You just suck ass at spelling..
#1306 [09:55] <oldtopmanserver> Oops then
#1307 [09:55] <Thoatt|bed> :P
#1308 [09:55] <Badugga> Lolz
#1309 [09:55] <Timur> ok, so my friend has paid for MC, why does he get the error then?
#1310 [09:55] <Badugga> how u do that?
#1311 [09:55] <Badugga> !paid badugga
#1312 [09:55] <Badugga> =/
#1313 [09:55] <Thoatt|bed> Is that your ign?
#1314 [09:55] <Badugga> yea
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#1316 [09:55] <Badugga> hey! wait!
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#1318 [09:55] <Badugga> !paid iTmu
#1319 [09:55] <Badugga> WTF
#1320 [09:55] <Thoatt|bed> ...
#1321 [09:55] <Badugga> i bought the code with that account
#1322 [09:56] <NotiCon> !paid NotiCon
#1323 [09:56] <Badugga> My friend =)
#1324 [09:56] <Thoatt|bed> please do not spam that command...
#1325 [09:56] <weezerle> if have paid to get kicked by the server, nice
#1326 [09:56] <Badugga> Sorrt
#1327 [09:56] <Badugga> !paid weezerle
#1328 [09:56] <Badugga> Great =)
#1329 [09:56] <Aska990> go sleeping
#1330 [09:56] <weezerle> at leaste other players can play the game on my server. i like paying for others to have fun :) so is there a way for me to connect to my server?
#1331 [09:57] <Aska990> goodbye everyone
#1332 [09:57] <Timur> my friend has paid for MC, and played online before, but now, when he tries to connect to SMP servers, he gets "User not premium"
#1333 [09:57] <Thoatt|bed> bye Aska990
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#1335 [09:57] <Badugga> wtf go sleeping?
#1336 [09:57] <Thoatt|bed> It says bed, not sleeping :)
#1337 [09:58] <adamkex> !paid adamkex
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#1339 [09:58] <adamkex> !paid adamkex_fake
#1340 [09:58] <Badugga> wut
#1341 [09:58] <Thoatt|bed> if you KNOW YOU'VE PAID, DON'T SPAM THE COMMAND >.>
#1342 [09:58] <Badugga> !paid adamkex_fake
#1343 [09:59] <Badugga> Sorry
#1344 [09:59] <Thoatt|bed> !disable
#1345 [09:59] <Badugga> Im sorry =/
#1346 [09:59] <adamkex> :O
#1347 [09:59] <Badugga> Hey wow!
#1348 [09:59] <Badugga> You are mod?
#1349 [09:59] <Badugga> Nice =)))
#1350 [09:59] <Thoatt|bed> !disable
#1351 [09:59] <bread> !paid tacticalbread
#1352 [09:59] <bread> :>
#1353 [09:59] <Thoatt> !disable
#1354 [09:59] <Badugga> what is !disable doing?
#1355 [09:59] <Thoatt> !disable
#1356 [09:59] <Thoatt> nothing..
#1357 [09:59] <Thoatt> because I wasn't my normal name ._.
#1358 [10:00] <Badugga> =/
#1359 [10:00] <adamkex> that's what happens when you get in bed with girls before the third date :(
#1360 [10:00] <Badugga> Im pretty sad coz i did not get minecraft even if i did pay for it...
#1361 [10:00] <adamkex> or something
#1362 [10:00] <Badugga> u get slapped
#1363 [10:00] <Badugga> Bitchlap
#1364 [10:00] <adamkex> :o
#1365 [10:00] <Badugga> even if u try
#1366 [10:00] <Badugga> :D
#1367 [10:00] <Timur> adamkex, a black hole appeares and sucks you in
#1368 [10:00] <Badugga> no, wait...
#1369 [10:00] <Badugga> It wasnt like that...
#1370 [10:01] <Thoatt> !enable
#1371 [10:01] <Badugga> i think this is only for MChelp? :D
#1372 [10:01] * adamkex faints. You gain 300 XP.
#1372 [10:01] <Badugga> Thanks thoatie
#1373 [10:01] <Thoatt> If you haven't paid for mc, we don't like helping you.. lol
#1374 [10:01] <Badugga> =(
#1375 [10:01] <Badugga> I paid for it...
#1376 [10:01] <Thoatt> unless of course you are asking about classic
#1377 [10:01] <Badugga> I PAID FOR IT!
#1378 [10:01] <Timur> so could someone please help me with my friend?
#1379 [10:01] <Badugga> give the accounts name
#1380 [10:01] <weezerle> has anyone a usefull hint what i can try to get connected to the server?
#1381 [10:02] <Thoatt> If you've paid for it, and it says you have not, send an email to payment@mojang.com
#1382 [10:02] <Badugga> i sent... two of them,....
#1383 [10:02] <Badugga> :D
#1384 [10:02] <Timur> he bought it 2 months ago, and he has played online before, so i dont understand why this is happening
#1385 [10:03] <Thoatt> Timur: It only happens on your server? or does it happen on all servers?
#1386 [10:03] <Timur> he tried connecting to the p.nerd.nu server
#1387 [10:03] <Timur> still got the error
#1388 [10:03] <Timur> same as when he tried connecting to my server
#1389 [10:04] <Thoatt> Then it's an issue with his account, we can't help with account issues here :(
#1390 [10:04] <Badugga> Give the name...
#1391 [10:04] <Badugga> Accounts name...
#1392 [10:04] <Badugga> :D
#1393 [10:04] <Timur> damn, so should he send an emal to support or payment?
#1394 [10:04] <Timur> email*
#1395 [10:04] <Badugga> Yea
#1396 [10:04] <Thoatt> support
#1397 [10:04] <weezerle> okay, i have no account issue, i can connect to other servers, but not to mine, wihle others can connect to mine server. any idea?
#1398 [10:04] <Badugga> But give the name...
#1399 [10:05] <Thoatt> weezerle: delete your player info from the server lol
#1400 [10:05] <Thoatt> Badugga: He doesn't want to... It's not like we can help here anyways.
#1401 [10:05] <Badugga> =/
#1402 [10:06] <Timur> could someone try and join my server, just to verify that its avalible? 80.202.99.187
#1403 [10:06] <Thoatt> !check 80.202.99.187
#1404 [10:06] <Badugga> U checked the portforward?
#1405 [10:06] <Thoatt> Looks fine
#1406 [10:06] <Badugga> =)
#1407 [10:06] <Badugga> Gratz!
#1408 [10:07] <Timur> thanks for the help guys, have a nice day :)
#1409 [10:07] <Badugga> Working?
#1410 [10:07] <Thoatt> np, cya
#1411 [10:07] <Thoatt> ffs
#1412 [10:07] <Thoatt> lol
#1413 [10:07] <Badugga> =)
#1414 [10:07] <Thoatt> yeah, working lol
#1415 [10:07] <Badugga> I love helping people :D
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#1417 [10:14] <weezerle> ok. i started with a new server, setting up server.properties but he still wont let me login. whil ic ould connect to other servers. and others can connect to mine. any ideas?
#1418 [10:14] <NotiCon> you cant connect to your own server?
#1419 [10:15] <weezerle> NotiCon: no, and its really anoying :)
#1420 [10:15] <NotiCon> you using the same ip as the others are or you using the local ip?
#1421 [10:15] <weezerle> NotiCon: i'm using the external ip
#1422 [10:16] <NotiCon> did you try the local? or is it not local?
#1423 [10:16] <weezerle> same thing happened when trying the local ip
#1424 [10:16] <Thoatt> weezerle:
#1425 [10:16] <Thoatt> connect to my server:
#1426 [10:16] <Thoatt> mc.thoatt.com
#1427 [10:17] <weezerle> like i said, working. i'm connected
#1428 [10:17] <Thoatt> ok, connect to your internal ip?
#1429 [10:17] <Thoatt> does that work?
#1430 [10:17] <weezerle> no doesnt work eather
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#1432 [10:17] <Thoatt> what about local?
#1433 [10:18] <Thoatt> 127.0.0.1
#1434 [10:18] <weezerle> no, doesnt work. localhost or 127.0.0.1 not working here
#1435 [10:18] <Thoatt> what error does it give you?
#1436 [10:19] <weezerle> Kicking /127.0.0.1: You need to log in!
#1437 [10:19] <weezerle> and "/127.0.0.1 disconnected"
#1438 [10:19] <Thoatt> restart minecraft?
#1439 [10:19] <Thoatt> lol
#1440 [10:19] <Thoatt> the client
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#1442 [10:20] <weezerle> dont need to, client crashes all the time while this error occures
#1443 [10:20] <Thoatt> o.O
#1444 [10:20] <Thoatt> ??> weezerle win/reinst
#1445 [10:20] <VoxelHead> weezerle: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1446 [10:20] <VoxelHead> weezerle: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1447 [10:21] <weezerle> tried that. i'm using linux, so there is not so much to reinstall
#1448 [10:21] <Thoatt> well.. all the same stuff...
#1449 [10:21] <Thoatt> ?? linux/reinst
#1450 [10:21] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1451 [10:21] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#1452 [10:22] <weezerle> ok, i'll try that one again
#1453 [10:22] <pine> Minecraft freezes my Mac OS X machine every time i close it :(
#1454 [10:24] <weezerle> ...and i'm still getting the same error "you need to login!" :C
#1455 [10:24] <pine> :(
#1456 [10:24] <Thoatt> :/
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#1458 [10:25] <weezerle> can you connect to the server? 88.75.64.125
#1459 [10:25] <Thoatt> !check 88.75.64.125
#1460 [10:26] <weezerle> just crashed
#1461 [10:26] <Thoatt> loool
#1462 [10:27] <weezerle> and up again
#1463 [10:27] <Thoatt> wtf. lol
#1464 [10:27] <weezerle> ah, same "You need to login" error for a 24.11... ip
#1465 [10:28] <Thoatt> das me
#1466 [10:28] <Thoatt> ok so...
#1467 [10:28] <Thoatt> I'm guessing something is blocking your server from accessing minecraft.net
#1468 [10:28] <weezerle> last time the others could connect (few minutes ago, account with username felix**)
#1469 [10:29] <Thoatt> hmmm...
#1470 [10:29] <Thoatt> Try setting the server to offline mode and see if that works
#1471 [10:29] <Thoatt> offline-mode=false
#1472 [10:29] <Thoatt> in server.properties
#1473 [10:30] <weezerle> online-mode=false ? done. and now trying to connect via local ip?
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#1475 [10:30] <oldtopmanserver> Thoatt: That stops the server from checking for paid people
#1476 [10:30] <Thoatt> oldtopmanserver: Did you not see what error he's getting
#1477 [10:31] <Thoatt> ?
#1478 [10:31] <Thoatt> weezerle: remember to restart the server
#1479 [10:31] <oldtopmanserver> i was just saying that that should not be a permanent fix
#1480 [10:31] <weezerle> still getting the same error
#1481 [10:31] <Sintoras54> hey guys, i just have a question : I played minecraft offline for 2 months, now i buyed it and there's nothing new i can do... the multiplayer modus needs an ip that i don't know form a server i don't know, and i'm not able to host my own..
#1482 [10:31] <weezerle> kicking IP You need to login!
#1483 [10:31] <Thoatt> oldtopmanserver: but it would tell if it's what I think it is
#1484 [10:31] <Thoatt> which it's not.
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#1486 [10:32] <Sintoras54> so why did i buy the game? I can't do something new..
#1487 [10:32] <Thoatt> Have you tried re-downloading the jar?
#1488 [10:32] <Thoatt> Sintoras54: What is your in-game name?
#1489 [10:32] <weezerle> yes, downloaded it a few minutes ago
#1490 [10:32] <Sintoras54> sintoras54...
#1491 [10:32] <Thoatt> wait... what? lol
#1492 [10:32] <oldtopmanserver> He wants to know what the multi feature is
#1493 [10:33] <Thoatt> What do you mean you can't do something new?
#1494 [10:33] <Thoatt> oh.. HERP
#1495 [10:33] <Kade> He wants to play MP but doesn't know how, I think
#1496 [10:33] <Thoatt> Missed the huge paste
#1497 [10:33] <Sintoras54> no i want to know if there's a list of all servers or something like that
#1498 [10:33] <Sintoras54> so that i can join on a server to build with friends..
#1499 [10:33] <Thoatt> ?? smp/servers
#1500 [10:33] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1501 [10:33] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1502 [10:34] <Thoatt> weezerle: I'm out of ideas =/
#1503 [10:34] <Sintoras54> so ... there is a list and i can join on a server and built ?
#1504 [10:34] <Thoatt> Sintoras54:....
#1505 [10:34] <Thoatt> look up
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#1507 [10:34] <Sintoras54> yes >.< i know...i'll try, thank you.#
#1508 [10:34] <Thoatt> np :)
#1509 [10:35] <Thoatt> weezerle: uhhh... virus protection?
#1510 [10:35] <NotiCon> firewall?
#1511 [10:35] <weezerle> Thoatt: ok, but still thx for helping.
#1512 [10:35] <Thoatt> firewall would block the connection, it's not blocked.
#1513 [10:35] <weezerle> Thoatt: no virus protection and firewall installed
#1514 [10:35] <Thoatt> hmm.. yep, I'm out of ideas lol
#1515 [10:36] <weezerle> lol
#1516 [10:36] <weezerle> then the others have to run the server :)
#1517 [10:36] <NotiCon> i have one last idea
#1518 [10:36] <NotiCon> google?
#1519 [10:36] <weezerle> NotiCon: tried that befor bothering you guys ;)
#1520 [10:36] <Thoatt> doing it now lol
#1521 [10:37] <NotiCon> i need an easier way to find clay :(
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#1524 [10:38] <Thoatt> NotiCon: /give NotiCon 337 64
#1525 [10:38] <Thoatt> bam! clay!
#1526 [10:38] <Thoatt> :D
#1527 [10:38] <NotiCon> for sp?
#1528 [10:38] <Thoatt> invedit
#1529 [10:38] <Thoatt> lol
#1530 [10:39] <NotiCon> but yea i was thinking without using that D:
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#1532 [10:42] <Thoatt> weezerle: do you have like...
#1533 [10:42] <Thoatt> extra lines in your config file?
#1534 [10:42] <Thoatt> like.. verify-names
#1535 [10:42] <Thoatt> etc
#1536 [10:42] <weezerle> yes, tried it with true and false, both doesnt work
#1537 [10:42] <Thoatt> delete that line...
#1538 [10:43] <weezerle> same error
#1539 [10:44] <weezerle> i'll try to reinstall java
#1540 [10:44] <Thoatt> delete the entire server.properties then run the server and let it generate the new one
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#1542 [10:46] <weezerle> Thoatt: tried that a couple of times before
#1543 [10:46] <Thoatt> it still generates the server.properties with verify-names in it?
#1544 [10:47] <weezerle> yes
#1545 [10:47] <Thoatt> it should not generate that line... this is a vanilla server correct?
#1546 [10:48] <Thoatt> use this one
#1547 [10:48] <Thoatt> http://pastebin.com/yASge0ZE
#1548 [10:48] <Thoatt> then try it.
#1549 [10:48] <NotiCon> uh i found clay o:
#1550 [10:49] <Thoatt> ohnoe!
#1551 [10:49] <Thoatt> clay?!
#1552 [10:49] <Thoatt> make a brick!
#1553 [10:49] <weezerle> no still getting the same error
#1554 [10:49] <Thoatt> ...
#1555 [10:49] <Thoatt> yep, you're boned lol
#1556 [10:49] <Thoatt> I got nothing
#1557 [10:51] <Thoatt> ok well... gnight folks
#1558 [10:53] <weezerle> gnight. and thx
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#1566 [11:14] <Ixon> Uhm pardon, I have a slight problem with my server
#1567 [11:16] <Ixon> My friend who is attempting to join sees only a few blocks of land and then nothing, like he is standing on an island when there in reality is land as far as the eye can see
#1568 [11:18] <LG_Legacy> It's called lag.
#1569 [11:18] <LG_Legacy> Give it a few
#1570 [11:18] <Ixon> Is there anything I can do to improve my computers ability to run the server?
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#1572 [11:21] <NotiCon> whats your connection limits?
#1573 [11:21] <Ixon> Is there any way I can find that out? Because I have no idea xD
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#1575 [11:21] <NotiCon> speedtest.net iirc
#1576 [11:22] <Matoso> is it necessary to create a new world to spawn wolves?
#1577 [11:22] <Matoso> or do they spawn in old worlds as well
#1578 [11:22] <weezerle> Matoso: spawn in old worlds too. at least in my worlds they do
#1579 [11:22] <Matoso> onice
#1580 [11:22] <Matoso> thx
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#1582 [11:24] <Ixon> I took this while my server was running, just for notekeeping
#1583 [11:24] <Ixon> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1235896253.png
#1584 [11:24] <Ixon> Is that good or bad?
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#1586 [11:25] <NotiCon> thats fine D:
#1587 [11:26] <Ixon> I am asking my friend to do it as well, will post his results soon
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#1589 [11:27] <irc2g0> anyone knows a trick to speed up minecraft?
#1590 [11:27] <irc2g0> already got details on lowest
#1591 [11:28] <Ixon> my friend´s result http://www.speedtest.net/result/1235901917.png
#1592 [11:30] <g> lol,
#1593 [11:30] <g> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1235907190.png
#1594 [11:30] <irc2g0> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1235907548.png
#1595 [11:30] <g> fuuu
#1596 [11:30] <g> that's fast
#1597 [11:30] <irc2g0> and im still lagging like f*ck
#1598 [11:31] <g> fps lag?
#1599 [11:31] <g> or net lag?
#1600 [11:31] <Ixon> Do you think my friends horrible lag is because his connection?
#1601 [11:31] <g> his upload is terrible
#1602 [11:31] <g> however, his download is.. exceptional
#1603 [11:31] * g shrugs
#1603 [11:31] <irc2g0> difference between fps/net lagg?
#1604 [11:32] <NotiCon> nah im just wondering if he is using his bw on other stuff than just minecraft?
#1605 [11:32] <g> net: Like chat lag
#1606 [11:32] <g> fps: Everything is jumpy
#1607 [11:32] <irc2g0> both.. lol
#1608 [11:33] <irc2g0> chat has huge delays on minecraft
#1609 [11:33] <irc2g0> and i keep teleporting back
#1610 [11:33] <Ixon> But if he have a good download, shouldn´t be be able to play on other servers?
#1611 [11:33] <irc2g0> ix, look at mines
#1612 [11:33] <irc2g0> and im still laggy
#1613 [11:34] <irc2g0> so i think it doesnt care that much.. ol
#1614 [11:36] <irc2g0> "[INFO] ****** lost connection: disconnect.overflow"
#1615 [11:36] <irc2g0> what does that mean..?
#1616 [11:36] <NotiCon> something with too much data not being able to handle it all
#1617 [11:37] <irc2g0> any way to fix it?
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#1619 [11:39] <irc2g0> woah
#1620 [11:40] <irc2g0> i keep getting "[INFO] ****** lost connection: disconnect.overflow"
#1621 [11:40] <irc2g0> What to do to fix it?
#1622 [11:40] <NotiCon> server cpu at 100% ?
#1623 [11:40] <irc2g0> 1 sec imma check
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#1625 [11:40] <JonathanS> hey guys
#1626 [11:41] <irc2g0> Nope, changes from 40 to 60%
#1627 [11:41] <JonathanS> could anyone help me make a nice loot chute?
#1628 [11:41] <NotiCon> you using the .jar file or the .exe file to run the server?
#1629 [11:41] <irc2g0> .jar
#1630 [11:42] <JonathanS> hey thoatt
#1631 [11:42] <NotiCon> he is sleeping
#1632 [11:42] <irc2g0> last week i just runned my server with 6+ people
#1633 [11:42] <irc2g0> without any lagg
#1634 [11:42] <irc2g0> and since this morning i keep lagging, with just me in it
#1635 [11:43] <NotiCon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHh02SDziaQ JonathanS that might help you
#1636 [11:43] <JonathanS> oh
#1637 [11:43] <JonathanS> ok
#1638 [11:43] <NotiCon> irc2g0: when did you last restart the server?
#1639 [11:43] <irc2g0> just did
#1640 [11:44] <Matoso> btw weezerle yea they do spawn in old worlds :)
#1641 [11:44] <NotiCon> and its working now or still buggy?
#1642 [11:44] <irc2g0> still laggy + huge ass delay
#1643 [11:46] <JonathanS> i actually meant something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSHHRSoMOME&feature=player_embedded the canal at the end
#1644 [11:46] <JonathanS> somewhere i can wait and all the loot coms to me
#1645 [11:48] <NotiCon> well for that you just need a water canal and water flows 8 blocks so make it 7 and then dig one level down and it will flow another 8 blocks
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#1647 [11:50] <irc2g0> bah
#1648 [11:51] <irc2g0> nothing works ><
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#1654 [12:00] <Dustin> How do i check if a server is down?
#1655 [12:00] <gPad2002> Try to connect to it
#1656 [12:00] <gPad2002> If you can't, its down
#1657 [12:00] <Dustin> No shit.
#1658 [12:00] <Dustin> But there is a command on here
#1659 [12:01] <Dustin> I used it last time
#1660 [12:01] <gPad2002> Not for an MC server there isn't
#1661 [12:01] <Dustin> Yes, there is
#1662 [12:01] <Dustin> I know for a fact there is
#1663 [12:01] <gPad2002> o\
#1664 [12:01] <gPad2002> What is it then?
#1665 [12:01] <Dustin> I'm asking, aren't i?
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#1667 [12:02] <gPad2002> What bot offered the command?
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#1669 [12:02] <Acr> Hi, is it not possible to play Minecraft Beta singleplayer? I want to check if it works on my PC before I buy
#1670 [12:02] <Dustin> Not a bot
#1671 [12:02] <gPad2002> Acr: Nope, you need to buy the game to play it
#1672 [12:03] <gPad2002> Watch YouTube videos if you want to get an idea
#1673 [12:03] <Acr> I know the game, I've seen it at a friend. I just want to test it on my machine
#1674 [12:03] <gPad2002> 'fraid not
#1675 [12:03] <gPad2002> What are your specs?
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#1677 [12:04] <gPad2002> Dustin: I have no idea what you're talking about then
#1678 [12:04] <Acr> laptop (dual 2ghz, 4gb, 64b win7)
#1679 [12:04] <SPaRT> will work
#1680 [12:04] <gPad2002> Yeah that's fine
#1681 [12:04] <LunaSwe> Hello, I tried to play with my friends over that thing called Hamachi before but had to close the process for various reasons and now I can't seem to get it back again. Will Notch develope an alternative solution so I can play with my friends?
#1682 [12:04] <gPad2002> Provided your gfx is up to scratch
#1683 [12:04] <SPaRT> for this answer i charge you 2$
#1684 [12:04] <Acr> ati mobility radeon hd 4600 series
#1685 [12:04] <gPad2002> LunaSwe: Learn to forward ports.
#1686 [12:05] <gPad2002> Acr: You should be fine with that
#1687 [12:05] <LunaSwe> I know how to do that.
#1688 [12:05] <SPaRT> :D
#1689 [12:05] <gPad2002> So do it
#1690 [12:05] <LunaSwe> But the problem now is that I can't start Hamachi again.
#1691 [12:05] <gPad2002> And don't use hamachi
#1692 [12:05] <gPad2002> It messes up the internees
#1693 [12:05] <gPad2002> Untethers
#1694 [12:05] <LunaSwe> Yeah, I noticed that.
#1695 [12:05] <gPad2002> Gah
#1696 [12:05] <gPad2002> Internets*
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#1698 [12:05] <LunaSwe> But all my friends uses Hamachi.
#1699 [12:05] <LunaSwe> What should I do?
#1700 [12:05] <gPad2002> Fricking autocomplete..
#1701 [12:05] <Acr> I've handled Hamachi in the past, what's the trouble?
#1702 [12:05] <Morrolan> You should contact hamachi support then, most of us don't have any experience with Hamachi. ;)
#1703 [12:05] <gPad2002> Run your own server
#1704 [12:05] <LunaSwe> Can I connect to them anyways?
#1705 [12:06] <LunaSwe> Oh.
#1706 [12:06] <LunaSwe> That seems to be more work than I would like.
#1707 [12:06] <LunaSwe> Will Notch make everything simple?
#1708 [12:06] <Acr> Can you connect to your friends?
#1709 [12:06] <LunaSwe> >:(
#1710 [12:06] <gPad2002> Drop files in folder
#1711 [12:06] <LunaSwe> No, they use Hamachi all of them.
#1712 [12:06] <KID> running your owj isn't really that hard
#1713 [12:06] <gPad2002> Run server
#1714 [12:06] <gPad2002> Done
#1715 [12:06] <KID> own*
#1716 [12:06] <LunaSwe> Then exactly why do they use Hamachi then?
#1717 [12:06] <SPaRT> yep i sign this answer
#1718 [12:06] <Morrolan> Luna: I don't see how he could make it simpler than it is. You will always need to forward the ports, there's nothing he could do about this. :/
#1719 [12:07] <gPad2002> LunaSwe: Because they have firewalls or dont know how to port forward
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#1721 [12:07] <LunaSwe> What ports do I have to forward?
#1722 [12:07] <Morrolan> 25565
#1723 [12:07] <gPad2002> Whichever ones you decide to use
#1724 [12:07] <gPad2002> 25565 is the default
#1725 [12:07] <Morrolan> Yeah, true.
#1726 [12:08] <LunaSwe> Okay...
#1727 [12:08] <LunaSwe> My friend said something about using Hamachi to protect his Ip, I think...
#1728 [12:08] <Acr> I'm still wondering why you'd use Hamachi
#1729 [12:08] <gPad2002> That Is pointless
#1730 [12:08] <lollydoddle> I was having trouble getting my 25565 to show open, so I just went with hamachi
#1731 [12:08] <Acr> Security by Obscurity, here we go
#1732 [12:09] <gPad2002> You can still ddos over Hamachi
#1733 [12:09] <gPad2002> :P
#1734 [12:09] <LunaSwe> Okay, thanks. I'll tell him.
#1735 [12:09] <LunaSwe> Be right back.
#1736 [12:09] <Acr> afk 1 sec, listening JS Bach Cantata No 140 Sleepers Awake
#1737 [12:09] <gPad2002> Protecting your IP is pointless anyway
#1738 [12:10] <gPad2002> Its not like someone will randomly say "LOL HE HAS SERVER LET'S KILL IT"
#1739 [12:10] <Acr> Depending on who you are that is
#1740 [12:10] <gPad2002> If that happened everyone who went on a website would be ddosed
#1741 [12:10] <gPad2002> :P
#1742 [12:10] <Acr> Not really
#1743 [12:11] <gPad2002> It probably would
#1744 [12:11] <gPad2002> Considering the amount of malicious sites that get your IP
#1745 [12:11] <LunaSwe> There we go, Hamachi uninstalled. I'll ask my friend to forward 25565.
#1746 [12:12] <gPad2002> :P
#1747 [12:12] <LunaSwe> The thing is that I am pretty poor at the moment, and I bought the game just to play with them. So it feels like a bad buy if I can't. :/
#1748 [12:12] <LunaSwe> Thanks for the help though.
#1749 [12:12] <gPad2002> Ask him to set up dyndns while you're at it
#1750 [12:12] <gPad2002> Makes it easier to connect if he has a dynamic IP
#1751 [12:12] <LunaSwe> dynds?
#1752 [12:12] <gPad2002> dynamic DNS
#1753 [12:12] <gPad2002> Like something.dyndns.org
#1754 [12:12] <gPad2002> It's free, so
#1755 [12:12] <LunaSwe> Mkay.
#1756 [12:13] <Acr> LunaSwe: You only need that if his IP changes often
#1757 [12:13] <Acr> If it stays the same, no need for something like dyndns
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#1759 [12:13] <g> ^
#1760 [12:13] <g> it more than likely does though
#1761 [12:14] <LunaSwe> I wonder why Hamachi decided to break my Internet in the first place though.
#1762 [12:14] <g> it just does that
#1763 [12:14] <g> it did it to me too
#1764 [12:14] <Acr> Probably you configured something incorrectly
#1765 [12:14] <Acr> Such as the order of network adapters
#1766 [12:14] <Acr> Or you decided not to reboot your pc
#1767 [12:14] <Acr> Or not read the manual ;)
#1768 [12:15] <g> manual? People read those?
#1769 [12:15] <g> :P
#1770 [12:15] <LunaSwe> I just installed it and wrote in the IP that my friend told me to, lols.
#1771 [12:15] <Acr> If you are the only one who cannot connect to Hamachi friends, the problem is on your end.
#1772 [12:15] <g> oho
#1773 [12:15] <g> http://i.imgur.com/0sJYm.png
#1774 [12:16] <LunaSwe> Obviously, but it sucks that it happened. It sucks to have bought Minecraft and not being able to play it as you want. :p
#1775 [12:16] <LunaSwe> Do most servers use Hamachi?
#1776 [12:16] <Acr> No, they do not
#1777 [12:16] <LunaSwe> Phew.
#1778 [12:17] <Acr> LunaSwe: Go through this little guide, that will very likely fix your Hamachi problem: http://logmeinwiki.com/wiki/Hamachi:Gaming_over_Hamachi
#1779 [12:17] <LunaSwe> Thanks, I marked it as a favourite. I can't really read that much now since I'll have to spend the evening studying.
#1780 [12:17] <LunaSwe> :p
#1781 [12:18] <Acr> Good luck
#1782 [12:18] <LunaSwe> Thank you.
#1783 [12:18] <LunaSwe> I think I'll lurk here for now though, in case I come up with any further questions or if my friend decides to answer me.
#1784 [12:18] * g goes back to idling
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#1789 [12:38] <mitpatterson> For anyone who connects to or wishes to connect to my server youc an now use mc.mitpatterson.com
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#1791 [12:42] <Acr> arduino programmer eh?
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#1793 [12:46] <JustHayden> Can someone help me set up my server?
#1794 [12:47] <JustHayden> anyone there?
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#1797 [12:49] <JustHayden> i wish there was a nudge button for IRC
#1798 [12:51] <Xerati> JustHayden, hi
#1799 [12:53] <JustHayden> hi, can you help me set up my server? i tryed but didnt seem to do any good
#1800 [12:53] <Xerati> mebs, what issue are you having?
#1801 [12:54] <JustHayden> i had a server up before but it was outdated so i went to restart everything and its soo different, i thought i did everything right but i cant connect to it :(
#1802 [12:55] <JustHayden> could you help me in teamviewer?
#1803 [12:56] <Xerati> i haven't used tv in like 2 years lol
#1804 [12:56] <Xerati> i am curious though... how is it hard to set up? All you do is download the minecraft_server.exe, and run it
#1805 [12:56] <Xerati> that's it O_o
#1806 [12:56] <JustHayden> well its not that different, its just like ur on my computer
#1807 [12:56] <JustHayden> no you need to download the .jar
#1808 [12:57] <NotiCon> only if you are not on windows
#1809 [12:57] <JustHayden> or thats how the guy did it in the youtube vid
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#1811 [12:57] <JustHayden> orly?
#1812 [12:57] <JustHayden> hmmm lol
#1813 [12:57] * Xerati facepalms
#1813 [12:57] <Xerati> are you trying to run the server from windows?
#1814 [12:57] <JustHayden> well ill try that then come back if im having any issues XD
#1815 [12:58] <Xerati> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1301936282448
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#1817 [12:59] <JustHayden> i make the server file a .bat once i got everything else set right?
#1818 [12:59] <Randomact> Has anyone every had the problem where you can't place brick?
#1819 [13:00] <NotiCon> once you start the .exe file it will generate the files them self
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#1821 [13:00] <JustHayden> what do i opeen the file in though? it makes me choose a program to open it with
#1822 [13:00] <Xerati> when you run the exe, that's it
#1823 [13:00] <Xerati> download the link i sent, put it in your server folder, and run it
#1824 [13:01] <JustHayden> lol this is taking a fuck load of time to download
#1825 [13:01] <Xerati> it'll create required files, but that's only for editting
#1826 [13:01] <Xerati> you start the server with the exe, not the bat files, bat files are for running just the jar file
#1827 [13:01] <xblurpx> Hi, I tried to play the minecraft true the browser, but it dosent work, the download of the update takes too long, is the servers overload?
#1828 [13:01] <Xerati> yeah, seems like it
#1829 [13:01] <Xerati> lemme check
#1830 [13:01] <Xerati> hrm
#1831 [13:02] <Xerati> downloaded instantly for me...so i'd say no
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#1833 [13:02] <irc2g0> anyone knows how to fix lagg?
#1834 [13:02] <JustHayden> ya i get everything now its just taking forever to download the server.exe
#1835 [13:02] <xblurpx> yeah
#1836 [13:02] <Xerati> irc2g0, what lag?
#1837 [13:02] <xblurpx> I downloaded the game, but still, I have to update it, and it takes forever...
#1838 [13:02] <irc2g0> Running server on my computer, and used to host a server with 6 people without any algg
#1839 [13:02] <Xerati> i downloaded it in less than a second
#1840 [13:02] <irc2g0> and this morning its lagging like hell
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#1842 [13:02] <Xerati> irc2g0, is it clientside lag or is the entire pc bogged down?
#1843 [13:02] <Xerati> oh god, it's genshou
#1844 [13:03] <Xerati> TROUBLE
#1845 [13:03] <irc2g0> just client
#1846 [13:03] <genshou> <_<
#1847 [13:03] <Xerati> irc2g0, try changing your video settings ingame, toggle the frame limiter
#1848 [13:03] <irc2g0> already did
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#1850 [13:03] <Xerati> kk, no go?
#1851 [13:03] <JustHayden> i dont think its downloading anymore, should i restart the download?
#1852 [13:03] <irc2g0> nopes
#1853 [13:03] <Xerati> that's 50% success rate now
#1854 [13:03] <Xerati> i was at 100% earlier <_<
#1855 [13:03] <Xerati> someone is working on a fix for it
#1856 [13:03] <irc2g0> its just when im running the server
#1857 [13:03] <Xerati> and they
#1858 [13:03] <Xerati> wait...
#1859 [13:04] <Xerati> does it happen while connecting to other servers?
#1860 [13:04] <mib_03xy7u> Is anyone else getting an error when trying to signin to minecraft?
#1861 [13:04] <irc2g0> not sure
#1862 [13:04] <irc2g0> didnt test
#1863 [13:04] <Xerati> mib_03xy7u, nope
#1864 [13:04] <Xerati> i signed in seconds ago
#1865 [13:04] <xblurpx> Whats wrong with the servers, why dos it take so long time?
#1866 [13:04] <Xerati> irc2g0, sec
#1867 [13:04] <Xerati> great, i just broke my server
#1868 [13:04] <Xerati> brb
#1869 [13:04] <irc2g0> lol gj
#1870 [13:04] <Xerati> i tried to run it from a temp dir
#1871 [13:04] <Xerati> so it screamed nasty things at me
#1872 [13:05] <JustHayden> is the file called Minecraft_server.jar for windows or is that wrong?
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#1874 [13:05] <Xerati> irc2g0, try smp.xerati.net
#1875 [13:05] <Xerati> JustHayden, Minecraft_server.exe
#1876 [13:05] <irc2g0> as server name?
#1877 [13:05] <Randomact> So no one has had a problem with not being able to place brick?
#1878 [13:05] <Xerati> irc2g0, yes, in multiplayer
#1879 [13:05] <JustHayden> ok will .exe download if theres a .jar file already on the computer?
#1880 [13:05] <Xerati> Randomact, wtf? no....
#1881 [13:05] <Xerati> JustHayden, yeah
#1882 [13:05] <Xerati> delete the ,jar, no need for it
#1883 [13:06] <irc2g0> "Connection Lost; Failed to login: Bad login"
#1884 [13:06] <Randomact> Xerati: >.> I spent an hour looking for all my clay and now I can't place it.
#1885 [13:06] <Xerati> wait, you mean as clay blocks?
#1886 [13:06] <Xerati> or the clay...balls?
#1887 [13:06] <Xerati> or bricks?
#1888 [13:06] <Randomact> No I cooked them into bricks
#1889 [13:06] <Xerati> and you combined them to brick blocks?
#1890 [13:06] <irc2g0> oh wait, i just logged on my friend's server
#1891 [13:07] <irc2g0> lagging there aswell
#1892 [13:07] <Xerati> irc2g0, close/reopen, and redo my server
#1893 [13:07] <irc2g0> just logged on my friend's server
#1894 [13:07] <JustHayden> it still says i need to choose a program for the minecraft_server...
#1895 [13:07] <JustHayden> to open it with
#1896 [13:07] <Randomact> Oh I think I may have just found my problem :/ my game let me cook my clay into bricks
#1897 [13:08] <genshou> Xerati, you don't have to put up with me for long, I'm just here to make sure my new client is working before I cook/eat breakfast and play fullscreen video games ;D
#1898 [13:08] <Xerati> why the notation of 'fullscreen'?
#1899 [13:08] <Randomact> Oh DOH... I feel REALLY stupid never mind I have to combine the bars
#1900 [13:08] <Randomact> >.>
#1901 [13:08] <Xerati> ^^
#1902 [13:09] <genshou> wiki list of crafting recipes ftw <.<
#1903 [13:09] <JustHayden> what do i open minecraft_server with?
#1904 [13:09] <irc2g0> Xer, im lagging on someone else's server aswell
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#1906 [13:09] <Xerati> irc2g0, screenshot the lag for me ;)
#1907 [13:09] <irc2g0> .jar/.exe jayden?
#1908 [13:09] <It> morning everyone
#1909 [13:09] <Xerati> genshou, that's your idea of a fullscreen game? a wiki page?
#1910 [13:09] <JustHayden> it doesnt say anything
#1911 [13:09] <Randomact> Now if only Notch *or any of the devs* can fix the fact that the game is not exactly mod friendly.
#1912 [13:09] <Xerati> hi It
#1913 [13:10] <Xerati> JustHayden, it's a .exe...you double click it
#1914 [13:10] <genshou> No.
#1915 [13:10] <Xerati> it's an executable, it just runs
#1916 [13:10] <irc2g0> xer, what u mean?
#1917 [13:10] <JustHayden> wait
#1918 [13:10] <Xerati> no what?
#1919 [13:10] <genshou> Sims Medieval
#1920 [13:10] <JustHayden> xerati, can i show you in teamviewer?
#1921 [13:10] <Xerati> irc2g0, gimme a screenshot so i know of what 'lag' you're talking about
#1922 [13:10] <genshou> as I'm trying to get enough insight into the game's workings to write an FAQ
#1923 [13:10] <Xerati> JustHayden, i don't have teamviewer
#1924 [13:10] <Wug> randomact, it's on its way. modding support is a hot issue
#1925 [13:10] <irc2g0> Big delay
#1926 [13:10] <irc2g0> and half loads
#1927 [13:10] <Xerati> JustHayden, did you download the .exe? and delete everything else?
#1928 [13:10] <Wug> and is getting some attention between this and the next update
#1929 [13:11] <Xerati> irc2g0, you appear like you're on a floating island?
#1930 [13:11] <Xerati> right?
#1931 [13:11] <irc2g0> like clicking on a chest, 5 seconds+ later, it opens the chest
#1932 [13:11] <irc2g0> yep that aswell
#1933 [13:11] <Xerati> started in 1.3? works fine in single player?
#1934 [13:11] <Wug> this is you connecting to a server you run?
#1935 [13:11] <Wug> locally or using your internet ip?
#1936 [13:11] <irc2g0> yep
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#1938 [13:11] <Xerati> Wug, it's not actual networking lag related
#1939 [13:11] <Xerati> it's a bug since 1.3
#1940 [13:11] <Wug> i know
#1941 [13:11] <JustHayden> oh, well theres a white file called minecraft_server, minecraft-server.jar, readme.txt and start server.bat.... what do i open first?
#1942 [13:11] <Xerati> having to do with adding smooth lighting
#1943 [13:11] <Wug> have you tried linux?
#1944 [13:12] <Wug> smooth lighting has nothing to do with it
#1945 [13:12] <Wug> it's probably window
#1946 [13:12] <Xerati> JustHayden, delete everything except for 'minecraft_server'
#1947 [13:12] <Wug> 's inferior network architecture
#1948 [13:12] <Xerati> and copy that to the folder you want to be your server folder
#1949 [13:12] <JustHayden> its already in the folder i want it in
#1950 [13:12] <Xerati> Wug, no
#1951 [13:12] <Wug> it really could be
#1952 [13:12] <Xerati> it's a glitch/bug in the code related to video features
#1953 [13:12] <Xerati> naw, 90% of the time it's fixed by changing video settings
#1954 [13:13] <Wug> is it creeping lag, like many seconds, that slowly gets worse?
#1955 [13:13] <irc2g0> Oh btw Xer, its not just me thats have lagg/delay/halfloads; also the ppl that are on my server
#1956 [13:13] <Xerati> has nothing to do with networking, or else it wouldn't be happening to so many people
#1957 [13:13] <Xerati> ^^
#1958 [13:13] <Wug> it only happens on windows
#1959 [13:13] <Xerati> all started in 1.3
#1960 [13:13] <Xerati> yes, windows
#1961 [13:13] <Xerati> but not everyone in windows has it
#1962 [13:13] <Wug> I have a great computer
#1963 [13:13] <JustHayden> xerati, i have minecraft_server in a folder already along with the .rar files in extracted
#1964 [13:13] <Xerati> even identical machines only 1 has the problem
#1965 [13:13] <Wug> and I had that problem bad on a 100mb/s connection
#1966 [13:14] <Wug> I tested it on linux
#1967 [13:14] <JustHayden> i extracted*
#1968 [13:14] <Xerati> JustHayden, there are no .rar files
#1969 [13:14] <Xerati> there is 1 file
#1970 [13:14] <Wug> went from serious lag with 4 people online
#1971 [13:14] <Randomact> Wug: Notch IS lucky tho if he choses to use it, lots of people who make AAA games for a living with far more experience then he has make mods
#1972 [13:14] <Wug> to 40 people with very little lag
#1973 [13:14] <Xerati> Wug, that's your own fail problem then
#1974 [13:14] <JustHayden> ok ill remove EVERYTHING exept the minecraft_server now what?
#1975 [13:14] <Wug> seriously, give linux a shot
#1976 [13:14] <Xerati> now double click minecraft_server
#1977 [13:15] <Xerati> Wug, i've been using nix and bsd for 15 years
#1978 [13:15] <Xerati> i know the ins and outs, as well as networking
#1979 [13:15] <Wug> can I test connect? what's the ip?
#1980 [13:15] <irc2g0> Xer, its not just me who has lagg/delay/halfloads; some ppl in server got it aswell
#1981 [13:15] <Randomact> Cya later folks I will be back if something stupid happens.
#1982 [13:15] <Xerati> what, for minecraft? i don't have any nix box set up
#1983 [13:15] <Wug> so you know that it's far superior to windows in terms of networking backend
#1984 [13:15] <JustHayden> now what? its asking me to choose a program to open it with....
#1985 [13:15] <Xerati> irc2g0, yes, it's a bug within Minecraft itself
#1986 [13:15] <NotiCon> the .jar?
#1987 [13:15] <Xerati> JustHayden, that is some fail... delete it, redownload from the link i gave eralier
#1988 [13:15] <Xerati> NotiCon, exe
#1989 [13:15] <irc2g0> so, i just gotta play with it? :|
#1990 [13:16] <Xerati> irc2g0, nope, but if the video settings change doesn't fix it (frame limiter) then you'll have to wait for the official fix (in the works)
#1991 [13:16] <JustHayden> the exact same file, its an unknown file type
#1992 [13:16] <irc2g0> so just gotta wait till next update?
#1993 [13:16] <Xerati> Wug, what layer of networking are you referring to?
#1994 [13:17] <Xerati> JustHayden, what OS are you on?
#1995 [13:17] <Xerati> irc2g0, possibly :/
#1996 [13:17] <JustHayden> windows
#1997 [13:17] <Xerati> JustHayden, version?
#1998 [13:17] <JustHayden> 7
#1999 [13:17] <irc2g0> Hmm okay :| then imma just go play some singleplayer
#2000 [13:17] <JustHayden> xerati, http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx this will be alot faster over TV
#2001 [13:17] <Xerati> rabble
#2002 [13:18] <Xerati> yes, it probably will be
#2003 [13:19] <JustHayden> ill brb going 2 the store while u download TV
#2004 [13:19] <Xerati> kk, give me the info
#2005 [13:19] <JustHayden> o nvm
#2006 [13:19] <Xerati> i'm ready
#2007 [13:19] <Xerati> lol
#2008 [13:19] <JustHayden> umm 1 sex
#2009 [13:19] <JustHayden> sec
#2010 [13:19] <Xerati> not on the first date
#2011 [13:19] <JustHayden> XD
#2012 [13:20] <Xerati> waiting!?!
#2013 [13:20] <Xerati> gimme control plox
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#2015 [13:23] <Xerati> winzors
#2016 [13:23] <Xerati> less than 4 mins
#2017 [13:23] <Xerati> lol
#2018 [13:24] <Wug> irc2g0, you still there
#2019 [13:26] * Xerati dives for cover
#2019 [13:27] * NotiCon pours water in the hole
#2019 [13:27] * Wug filled the hole with potassium! muahaha!
#2019 [13:27] <Wug> the hole then asplodes
#2020 [13:27] <Xerati> what hole?
#2021 [13:27] <irc2g0> teo u an
#2022 [13:28] <irc2g0> yep i am*
#2023 [13:28] <Xerati> i was behind a rock
#2024 [13:28] <Wug> the hole that there is fire in
#2025 [13:28] <NotiCon> the hole under the rock
#2026 [13:28] <Xerati> aha, i wasn't there
#2027 [13:28] <Xerati> phew
#2028 [13:29] <irc2g0> Wug, why?
#2029 [13:29] <Wug> what was the issue you were having?
#2030 [13:30] <irc2g0> Lagg,delay, half loads
#2031 [13:30] <Xerati> sounds 100% like networking related, right?
#2032 [13:30] <Xerati> but the cause is video settings related
#2033 [13:30] <Wug> what are the circumstances? whose server?
#2034 [13:30] <irc2g0> mines
#2035 [13:30] <Xerati> any server
#2036 [13:30] <irc2g0> ;p
#2037 [13:30] <Xerati> singleplayer works fine
#2038 [13:30] <Wug> is it fixed?
#2039 [13:30] <Xerati> and other computers on the same network have no issue
#2040 [13:30] <Xerati> not yet
#2041 [13:31] <irc2g0> Most lagg/delay/halfloads on my server
#2042 [13:31] <irc2g0> but got them aswell on other servers
#2043 [13:31] <Xerati> i pointed out a 'possible' fix to someone
#2044 [13:31] <Wug> do other people have the same issue?
#2045 [13:31] <Xerati> they narrowed down the actual cause
#2046 [13:31] <Xerati> and they've pushed the info up to jeb
#2047 [13:31] <irc2g0> On my server they have
#2048 [13:31] <Wug> do you have the problem on other servers?
#2049 [13:31] <irc2g0> lagging aswell on there, yep
#2050 [13:32] <JustHayden> im such a fucken idiot!
#2051 [13:32] <NotiCon> how so?
#2052 [13:32] <JustHayden> i deleted my world by mistake!
#2053 [13:32] <Wug> do you have the problem if you connect to your server over localhost, or just your external ip?
#2054 [13:32] <Wug> justhayden - recycle bin
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#2056 [13:32] <JustHayden> i deleted it from the recycle bin somehow
#2057 [13:32] <Wug> backup
#2058 [13:32] <irc2g0> external ip
#2059 [13:32] <Wug> which you should have
#2060 [13:32] <JustHayden> i dont think i made a backup
#2061 [13:32] <Wug> irc, try using 127.0.0.1
#2062 [13:32] <JustHayden> or how od i do that?
#2063 [13:33] <JustHayden> how do i backup?
#2064 [13:33] <Wug> make a copy of the folder
#2065 [13:33] <Wug> if you lose it, restore the copy
#2066 [13:33] <Wug> too late now though...
#2067 [13:33] <JustHayden> fuck!
#2068 [13:33] <Wug> have you ever shared it?
#2069 [13:33] <JustHayden> no
#2070 [13:34] <Wug> did you generate it with a seed?
#2071 [13:34] <JustHayden> no
#2072 [13:34] <Wug> oh well...
#2073 [13:34] <JustHayden> i spent alot of time making the space and i spent a hr making the main building
#2074 [13:34] <Wug> be more careful next time, and make regular backusp
#2075 [13:34] <irc2g0> wug, how to put it on localhost?
#2076 [13:34] <irc2g0> just ip 127.0.0.1?
#2077 [13:34] <JustHayden> i didnt think it removed that copy of the file when i moved it, i just thought i copyed it
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#2079 [13:35] <Wug> yep
#2080 [13:35] <Wug> can you ctrl+z it back magically?
#2081 [13:35] <JustHayden> anyone wanna help me make my server?
#2082 [13:35] <JustHayden> no
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#2084 [13:36] <Rhayvin> there any truth to their possibly being a patch released soon to remedy some of the lag issues?
#2085 [13:36] <Wug> hopefully
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#2087 [13:37] <Xerati> Rhayvin, we narrowed down the potential cause
#2088 [13:37] <Xerati> and jeb knows about it now
#2089 [13:38] <Rhayvin> pretty retarded that when I log into my own server and am the only person in it half the time the nearby chunks don't load
#2090 [13:38] <Wug> xerati, explain to me exactly what was found
#2091 [13:38] <Wug> be as technical as possible
#2092 [13:38] <Xerati> ok
#2093 [13:39] <Xerati> for starters, people found that some of the time, changing the frame limiter toggle in video settings as a solution
#2094 [13:39] <Xerati> makes 100% no sense, i completely agree
#2095 [13:39] <Xerati> but it worked for 2/2 people that had it on my server
#2096 [13:39] <Xerati> so i suggested it to someone having the problem, but it didn't fix it for the
#2097 [13:39] <Xerati> them
#2098 [13:39] <Xerati> BUT... they are into heavy modding, so they started digging with my suggestion through the code
#2099 [13:40] <ohmusama> A Question about Block Data Values; Checking MinecraftWiki neglects Data Values for monster spawners. Is there somewhere I can go to find the data values for monsters spawners (to specify which type of monster it spawns) Thanks.
#2100 [13:40] <Xerati> they found that with the addition of video settings in 1.3 beta (namely smooth lighting, and reorganizing), the enumeration of said settings actually causes a problem with the netcode when the values are...in a certain pattern or something? dunno, he didn't explain that part
#2101 [13:41] <Xerati> but basically, the way the new settings were added caused part of the networking to have an issue under certain circumstances with video settings
#2102 [13:42] <Wug> who was it?
#2103 [13:42] <Wug> who discovered this
#2104 [13:42] <Xerati> Mr_Okushama
#2105 [13:42] <NotiCon> ohmusama: there is only one iirc and if its spawned by players in smp it only spawns pigs iirc
#2106 [13:43] <Xerati> there are values
#2107 [13:43] <ohmusama> NotiCon: I was thinking for map creation
#2108 [13:43] <Xerati> otherwise, they would only always spawn pigs
#2109 [13:43] <Xerati> as for the in smp part, that's a clientside visual glitch
#2110 [13:43] <ohmusama> I'm working with R-T-B to help him with Biome Terrain Mod, and I got curious and had a question. lol
#2111 [13:43] <Xerati> it'll spawn whatever it's told to spawn, and -clientsideonly- also pigs
#2112 [13:43] <Xerati> if there's grass/light
#2113 [13:44] <ohmusama> Yeah I figured out the grass/light part
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#2115 [13:44] <Wug> I think the monster spawned by the spawner is controlled by the damage value
#2116 [13:45] <Wug> which is not controllable when spawning items
#2117 [13:45] <Wug> wool colors work the same way
#2118 [13:46] <ohmusama> Right, I'm placing these blocks at map generation time
#2119 [13:46] <ohmusama> so I DO have control :)
#2120 [13:46] <Rhayvin> well you can spawn items using damage values but server needs to be running a plugin to enable it.
#2121 [13:46] <Xerati> with mobspawners, no matter how you look at it, it's still a mod/plugin/something
#2122 [13:47] <ohmusama> I'm working on this: http://faskerstudio.com/minecraft/BBOB which is supposed to build 3D objects layer by layer in 2D space.
#2123 [13:48] <ohmusama> Anyway is there somewhere I could either get help with the codes or should I brute force them?
#2124 [13:48] <Xerati> it used to have the info on the wiki
#2125 [13:48] <Rhayvin> I've had issues with running BTM on a server like it creates alot of instability for the users.
#2126 [13:48] <Xerati> in theory, it should be in the code somewheres... what does it show?
#2127 [13:49] <ohmusama> (I know BTM is running poorly atm, sigh)
#2128 [13:49] <ohmusama> I searched MCedit's code
#2129 [13:49] <ohmusama> and I got something like 0 = pig, 1 = sheep, 2 = skeleton, 3 = creeper, 4 = spider, 5 = zombie, 6 = slime
#2130 [13:49] <Wug> ohmusama, what are you looking for?
#2131 [13:50] <irc2g0> anyone knows where to get a flat sand map? :$
#2132 [13:50] <Rhayvin> yeah and I run a bukkit server and would like to boost the size of biomes but I can run BTM only so long before I get sick of being booted
#2133 [13:50] <Xerati> irc2g0
#2134 [13:50] <Wug> you can make one with mcedit
#2135 [13:50] <ohmusama> but I don't know if that is accurate and what values correspond to ghast / pigmen
#2136 [13:50] <Xerati> we has a potential fix for that lag problem
#2137 [13:51] <irc2g0> Hmm?
#2138 [13:51] <Wug> ohmusama, try random guessing :3
#2139 [13:51] <ohmusama> Wug: this is true, but I won't know what the data value is behind it :|
#2140 [13:51] <Xerati> irc2g0, join #okushama.info
#2141 [13:51] <ohmusama> lol
#2142 [13:51] <Wug> have it do it one by one, and record results
#2143 [13:51] <Wug> it's science!
#2144 [13:52] <ohmusama> sigh, the problem is it takes FOREVER to find a BOB object in BTM, lol lesigh. I might have to do that *sad*
#2145 [13:53] <ohmusama> and BTM is not working for 1.4 yet, oh well.
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#2147 [14:09] <ohmusama> Okay, send a bunch of messages out into the aether to see if any of the other mod/mappers can answer the question, if I get an answer, I'll add it to the wiki. yay?
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#2150 [14:15] <lionelmoi> hello minecraft keeps crashing for me anyone has the same problem lately ?
#2151 [14:16] <Xerati> stop closing it!
#2152 [14:16] <Xerati> got any mods loaded?
#2153 [14:19] <lionelmoi> no mods
#2154 [14:19] <lionelmoi> just used a seed
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#2156 [14:20] <boomsmash> is this a good place to ask MCP questions, or do they have a channel?
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#2160 [14:32] <Liraxus> Hey, im trying to make a good water texture that ISN'T animated
#2161 [14:33] <Liraxus> how do
#2162 [14:34] <mib_lafi5i> anyone knos the hmod channel?
#2163 [14:34] <Liraxus> Anyone?
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#2172 [14:56] <freakyy[t]> hi all i get this error 2011-04-04 20:31:57 [SEVERE] java.lang.IllegalStateException: Failed to remove player. net.minecraft.server.EntityPlayer@10ff2(Dergon at -197.2310400794003,64.0,280.69999998807907) isn't in chunk -4, 15 can anybody help me?
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#2176 [15:00] <Toonic> Can someone help me with Logic gates?
#2177 [15:00] <JonathanS> hey guys
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#2179 [15:00] <JonathanS> is there any number of distance i have ot stand away from my mob grinder
#2180 [15:00] <JonathanS> for things to spawn
#2181 [15:00] <JonathanS> ?
#2182 [15:01] <Toonic> Mobs spawn in a radius around you. So yes.
#2183 [15:01] <Toonic> The radius I do not know.
#2184 [15:01] <JonathanS> ok
#2185 [15:02] <Xerati> freakyy[t]
#2186 [15:02] <freakyy[t]> yes?
#2187 [15:02] <Xerati> try deleting ...Dergon? his player file
#2188 [15:03] <freakyy[t]> i tried it fixes but it happened 3 times today and i need to fix th e problem not just the .dat file
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#2190 [15:04] <Xerati> tell them to stop breaking things!
#2191 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Toonic - What sort of help do you need?
#2192 [15:04] <Xerati> is this an unmodded server?
#2193 [15:05] <Xerati> JonathanS, yes
#2194 [15:05] <Xerati> for grinders using a spawner (dungeon), you need to be within 24 or 26 blocks (can't remember which)
#2195 [15:05] <Xerati> and visa versa, for custom towers (dark rooms), you have to be more than 24/26 blocks away
#2196 [15:05] <freakyy[t]> Xerati no it is bukkit
#2197 [15:05] <Xerati> it's probably a bukkit bug
#2198 [15:05] <freakyy[t]> but someg uy from there sent me here
#2199 [15:06] <Xerati> on a huge vanilla server i'm on, we've not had that problem
#2200 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. hold on. Using a spawner, you need to be closer than that
#2201 [15:06] <Xerati> the distances out for xyz don't look big, so i doubt it's anything like that
#2202 [15:06] <Xerati> closer?
#2203 [15:06] <Xerati> actually yeah, seems right
#2204 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Monsters out in the open, don't spawn closer than 26-27 blocks
#2205 [15:06] <Xerati> ^^
#2206 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> A spawner is different
#2207 [15:06] <Xerati> it's till about the same...maybe 20?
#2208 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Sec.. um
#2209 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Monster_Spawner
#2210 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> "The player must be within 16 blocks for spawners to generate mobs, which will spawn even if there is a wall between the spawner and an available spawning space inside the four block radius. "
#2211 [15:07] <Xerati> 16
#2212 [15:07] <Xerati> 4 block radius eh?
#2213 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Mobs spawn within 4 blocks of the spawner
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#2216 [15:10] <Uristthegreat> Is anyone familiar with the Tribe of Judah server?
#2217 [15:10] <frogmella> anyone has any idea why everyone on my server is admins now? i just added essentials to the server and put only my name there
#2218 [15:10] <Toonic> GreyVulpine: I'm trying to create a door that I can use a leaver on both sides to open.
#2219 [15:10] <Toonic> I thought a XNOR gate should work.. but it doesn't seem to
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#2221 [15:10] <frogmella> wrong channel sorry
#2222 [15:11] <neviklink> hi
#2223 [15:11] <Uristthegreat> Anyone?
#2224 [15:12] <Uristthegreat> My connection keeps on getting lost and I don't know what to do.
#2225 [15:13] <gPad2002> Get new nets?
#2226 [15:13] <gPad2002> Stop downloading porn?
#2227 [15:13] * gPad2002 shrugs
#2227 [15:13] <gPad2002> :P
#2228 [15:13] <neviklink> XD
#2229 [15:13] <gPad2002> Generally there are three reasons for that problem
#2230 [15:14] <gPad2002> Bandwidth stealing from something else
#2231 [15:14] <gPad2002> A firewall or virus
#2232 [15:14] <gPad2002> Or crappy internees
#2233 [15:14] <gPad2002> Internets*
#2234 [15:14] <gPad2002> Uristthegreat: ^
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#2236 [15:14] <neviklink> or you downlaoded too much porn
#2237 [15:15] <gPad2002> I said that :P
#2238 [15:15] <gPad2002> Bandwidth stealing
#2239 [15:15] <Uristthegreat> I can connect and everything but I can't do anything and the server won't load all the way.
#2240 [15:15] <gPad2002> Have you given it the 30s or so it takes?
#2241 [15:15] <JonathanS> wait, so i have to stand 25 blocks away from my mob grinders 1st level for them to spawn?
#2242 [15:16] <gPad2002> Or /spawnmob with bucket
#2243 [15:16] <gPad2002> Bukkit*
#2244 [15:16] <gPad2002> :P
#2245 [15:16] <Uristthegreat> I've given it minutes.
#2246 [15:16] <neviklink> i need some square hands to help me build a mob girnder
#2247 [15:16] <Wug> I can't I have a paper to compose. srry
#2248 [15:16] <JonathanS> i can
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#2250 [15:16] <JonathanS> i have one
#2251 [15:17] <JonathanS> 2,000+ items and hour
#2252 [15:17] <neviklink> so can someone help me build one on my servwer
#2253 [15:18] <JonathanS> i can
#2254 [15:18] <JonathanS> whats the ip
#2255 [15:18] <JonathanS> msg me
#2256 [15:18] <Uristthegreat> Can anyone help me?
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#2258 [15:18] <JonathanS> srry im back
#2259 [15:18] <JonathanS> can you send it to me again?
#2260 [15:19] <neviklink> its in aom
#2261 [15:19] <neviklink> pm
#2262 [15:21] <Uristthegreat> I've deleted Minecraft and reinstalled it. I don't know what the hell to do.
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#2264 [15:21] <ferminter> Hello
#2265 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Uristthegreat - What's the problem?
#2266 [15:21] <ferminter> I got a problem
#2267 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Just tell us your problem
#2268 [15:22] <ferminter> When i try to play online, i really got a terrible lag on every server, it takes like 20 seconds before text shows up and stuff
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#2271 [15:23] <Soldierman> Hello ?
#2272 [15:23] <JonathanS> hi
#2273 [15:23] <Uristthegreat> When I try to play online the server only partially loads and I can't mine or anything.
#2274 [15:23] <Soldierman> Im looking for some help about moving buildings from 1 world to another
#2275 [15:23] <JonathanS> is it near spawn?
#2276 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Soldierman - Try a map editor, MCedit can do it.
#2277 [15:24] <Soldierman> In SMP ?
#2278 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2279 [15:24] <ferminter> when i try it takes like 20 seconds before the ores/sand/dirt and stuff dissapear
#2280 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> ferminter - Sounds like the 1.3/1.4 lag, nothing you can really do.
#2281 [15:24] <Soldierman> Is there any other simpler ways ?
#2282 [15:24] <Uristthegreat> The sand/ores/dirt don't disappear they just reappear.
#2283 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Soldierman - Unless you want to do it by hand.
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#2285 [15:24] <Soldierman> Ok ill try
#2286 [15:25] <Soldierman> Thanks for the help
#2287 [15:25] <ferminter> but why don't the other players have that problem?
#2288 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> ferminter - It only affects a certain number of people, why, we don't know
#2289 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> You can see a thread of the exact issues here: 190756
#2290 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> er
#2291 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=190756
#2292 [15:28] <Uristthegreat> Vulpine, do you know what my problem is?
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#2294 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Uristthegreat - Running any sort of security software? Any firewalls?
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#2296 [15:31] <Uristthegreat> Not that I know of, I could connect to the server before I got blacklisted.
#2297 [15:33] <Soldierman> With essentials , how do i get the world command to work , I have the other worlds within the same directory and it doesnt work
#2298 [15:33] <neviklink> can any1 else help me make a mob ginder
#2299 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> We don't really provide help with bukkit or its plugins here
#2300 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit or #essentials
#2301 [15:34] <Soldierman> Ok thanks
#2302 [15:37] <neviklink> mob girnder help ploxxxx
#2303 [15:39] <neviklink> can any1 help me build a mob girnder
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#2305 [15:41] <neviklink> =(
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#2308 [15:47] <neviklink> question if i hear a skelton shouild i dig toward it?
#2309 [15:47] <MrJerrai> anyone still getting random blackscreens?
#2310 [15:47] <gPad2002> Personal preference
#2311 [15:48] <gPad2002> Invalid question
#2312 [15:48] <gPad2002> MrJerrai: Yes
#2313 [15:48] <neviklink> found him
#2314 [15:48] <neviklink> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
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#2316 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes MrJerrai.
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#2320 [15:49] <neviklink> woah i just found like a premaid mob grinder
#2321 [15:49] <exertaei> !
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#2323 [15:50] <MrJerrai> whats the cause?
#2324 [15:50] <MrJerrai> of the blackscreens
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#2326 [15:50] <MrJerrai> Ive uninstalled all my mods, yet they're mirrored in the minecraft1-4.jar
#2327 [15:51] <xales> err, what?
#2328 [15:51] <xales> that's not a standard filename for anything
#2329 [15:51] <MrJerrai> what?
#2330 [15:51] <neviklink> lol i found a locked chest in an undergorund cave
#2331 [15:51] <xales> minecraft1-4.jar
#2332 [15:51] <MrJerrai> i have a minecraft1-4.jar in my .bin
#2333 [15:51] <MrJerrai> hmm
#2334 [15:51] <MrJerrai> its gone
#2335 [15:52] <MrJerrai> wtf its not there anymore!
#2336 [15:52] <MrJerrai> any my minecraft isnt loading
#2337 [15:52] <MrJerrai> *and
#2338 [15:52] <xales> ??> MrJerrai win/reinst
#2339 [15:52] <VoxelHead> MrJerrai: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2340 [15:52] <VoxelHead> MrJerrai: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2341 [15:52] <MrJerrai> its linux
#2342 [15:52] <MrJerrai> yeah i know
#2343 [15:53] <MrJerrai> imma renmae .minecraft so it redownloads the files
#2344 [15:53] <MrJerrai> *rename
#2345 [15:53] <MrJerrai> ive already tried deleting my bin it didnt fix it
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#2347 [15:54] <Glothek> quick question: where does MC keep its error log?
#2348 [15:55] <MrJerrai> theres an error log?
#2349 [15:55] <Glothek> crash report, w/e
#2350 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> The crash reports are in the same directory where you have the minecraft launcher... or in the .minecraft folder
#2351 [15:55] <MrJerrai> i dont think it stores those
#2352 [15:56] <MrJerrai> I cant find them
#2353 [15:56] <Glothek> I'm using Zombe's modpack for screwing around and I managed to crash MC, just wanted to tell him about it
#2354 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Tell who?
#2355 [15:56] <MrJerrai> its in the mods directory
#2356 [15:56] <Glothek> k
#2357 [15:56] <MrJerrai> zombes mod makes its own log
#2358 [15:56] <Glothek> yeah, was gonna send that too
#2359 [15:57] <Glothek> apparently his build mode mod doesn't like using the "fill" function with redstone repeaters
#2360 [15:57] <Glothek> :-P
#2361 [15:57] <MrJerrai> use worldedit
#2362 [15:57] <MrJerrai> its 100000x better
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#2364 [15:57] <Glothek> its not a big deal, like I said, i was just screwing around
#2365 [15:58] <MrJerrai> just do it
#2366 [15:58] <MrJerrai> and make the world a better place
#2367 [15:58] <Glothek> btw: if you set the explosive power to 10x, be somewhere else
#2368 [15:58] <MrJerrai> use spc
#2369 [15:58] <MrJerrai> ./explode 1000
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#2371 [15:58] <Glothek> I like the build mode for laying redstone circuits
#2372 [15:59] <neviklink> burn skellies burn
#2373 [15:59] <MrJerrai> worldedit has the same features but much better
#2374 [15:59] <MrJerrai> seriously check it out
#2375 [15:59] <Glothek> but I don't like change!
#2376 [15:59] <MrJerrai> TOO BAD
#2377 [16:00] <MrJerrai> bukkit or ssp?
#2378 [16:00] <Glothek> I'lll check it out, but I've already got zombe's set up with 18 toolbars that I like
#2379 [16:00] <Glothek> ssp
#2380 [16:00] <MrJerrai> it comes with singleplayercommands
#2381 [16:00] * MrJerrai sigh, now gotta install all my mods again
#2381 [16:01] <Glothek> java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 356
#2382 [16:01] * Kealper yawns
#2382 [16:01] <MrJerrai> ?
#2383 [16:01] <Glothek> that's the gist of the error, I guess
#2384 [16:02] <MrJerrai> its zombes fault
#2385 [16:02] <Glothek> tried to put in a row of repeaters
#2386 [16:02] <Kealper> Glothek: context?
#2387 [16:02] <MrJerrai> 356 is the code for repeaters
#2388 [16:02] <Glothek> yeah, I gathered
#2389 [16:02] <MrJerrai> he hasnt put the block code for repeaters in the mod
#2390 [16:02] <MrJerrai> ok
#2391 [16:02] <MrJerrai> fffffuuuu
#2392 [16:03] <Glothek> yeah, its in there, just don't try to fill a selection with it
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#2394 [16:03] <Glothek> so... worldedit?
#2395 [16:03] <MrJerrai> yeah>
#2396 [16:03] <MrJerrai> *yeah?
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#2398 [16:04] <xJAries> ello dere :D
#2399 [16:04] <MrJerrai> hello
#2400 [16:04] <xJAries> how are you?
#2401 [16:04] <MrJerrai> i am doing fine
#2402 [16:04] <MrJerrai> you?
#2403 [16:05] <xJAries> ok. having sum minecraft problems though
#2404 [16:05] <MrJerrai> explain
#2405 [16:05] <xJAries> every time i try to join a server it just says downloading terrain
#2406 [16:05] <MrJerrai> and then?
#2407 [16:06] <xJAries> wen i tried to join my own, it crashed. every1 elses it just doesnt changed
#2408 [16:06] <Glothek> hey MrJerrai: could I add the repeaters to the .class files manually? or will I just scare myself? I'm *very* new to java
#2409 [16:06] <MrJerrai> you could try
#2410 [16:07] <MrJerrai> minecraft = spaggetii code
#2411 [16:07] <xales> ??> xJAries win/reinst
#2412 [16:07] <VoxelHead> xJAries: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2413 [16:07] <Kealper> xJAries: how many others have you tried? and have those other servers been known to work for others?
#2414 [16:07] <VoxelHead> xJAries: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2415 [16:07] <Kealper> MrJerrai: minecraft isn't spaghetti code
#2416 [16:07] <MrJerrai> xJAries - win or lin?
#2417 [16:07] <MrJerrai> it is
#2418 [16:07] <Kealper> MrJerrai: what you are seeing in all those random class files is obfuscated code
#2419 [16:07] <xJAries> im confused.
#2420 [16:07] <MrJerrai> Glothek I think worldedit has diode support
#2421 [16:07] <Conornxd> Ill answer his questions
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#2423 [16:08] <Conornxd> Hes on win, yes the servers work for others
#2424 [16:08] <MrJerrai> xJAries what OS
#2425 [16:08] <Conornxd> Win xp
#2426 [16:08] <figaro> hey can someone help me out
#2427 [16:08] <MrJerrai> ah
#2428 [16:08] <Conornxd> and he gets end of stream usually
#2429 [16:08] <MrJerrai> try firewall
#2430 [16:08] <xales> figaro: With?
#2431 [16:08] <Glothek> we can try figaro
#2432 [16:08] <Conornxd> he gets logged in server side but its stuck on downloading terrain
#2433 [16:08] <Conornxd> ports forwarded, firewall OFF
#2434 [16:08] <Conornxd> on router and computer
#2435 [16:08] <figaro> i just bought the game but nothings changed? i cant play mulitplayer when i download the game
#2436 [16:08] <Kealper> xJAries: do you have ZoneAlarm installed?
#2437 [16:08] <figaro> only through the browser
#2438 [16:08] <xales> figaro: Why can't you?
#2439 [16:08] <figaro> if i knew it wouldnt be a problem :P
#2440 [16:08] <figaro> haha
#2441 [16:09] <xales> well, what happens when you try?
#2442 [16:09] <MrJerrai> figaro - try the client
#2443 [16:09] <figaro> i downloaded the beta and the "outdated" versions and neither worked in multiplayer
#2444 [16:09] <MrJerrai> try forcing update
#2445 [16:09] <figaro> i have QQ
#2446 [16:10] <xales> figaro: try a different server
#2447 [16:10] <figaro> theres no server list in multiplayer its just the blank white box
#2448 [16:10] <xales> ??> figaro smp/servers
#2449 [16:10] <figaro> if thats what you mean
#2450 [16:10] <VoxelHead> figaro: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2451 [16:10] <VoxelHead> figaro: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2452 [16:10] <figaro> ok
#2453 [16:10] <figaro> thanks ill see where this takes me
#2454 [16:11] <MrJerrai> figaro theres no list ingame
#2455 [16:11] <MrJerrai> there are mods for it
#2456 [16:11] <figaro> oh ok
#2457 [16:13] <MrJerrai> fp y u down ._.
#2458 [16:13] <MrJerrai> are the glsl shadres updated?
#2459 [16:13] <xJAries> what should i do?
#2460 [16:13] <MrJerrai> reinstall
#2461 [16:14] <MrJerrai> delete the version file in %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/
#2462 [16:15] <xJAries> how u get to that folder?
#2463 [16:16] <MrJerrai> press the windows button + r
#2464 [16:16] <MrJerrai> then type %appdata%
#2465 [16:16] <MrJerrai> then click on .minecraft
#2466 [16:16] <MrJerrai> then click on the bin folder
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#2468 [16:17] <xJAries> then what?
#2469 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Then delete the version file in the bin folder
#2470 [16:18] <xJAries> done
#2471 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft
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#2473 [16:20] <MrJerrai> not really a help question, but can someone give me inspiration to build something? :3
#2474 [16:20] <Kealper> build Mount Creepmore
#2475 [16:21] <MrJerrai> link?
#2476 [16:21] <xJAries> GIANT PACMAN STATUE
#2477 [16:21] <Kealper> no link, just thought of it right now lol
#2478 [16:21] <MrJerrai> lol
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#2481 [16:21] <Kealper> (although i'm sure that name is already in use, hiveminds have a way of doing that thing to ya)
#2482 [16:21] <JonathanS> hey im back
#2483 [16:21] <neviklink> heyo
#2484 [16:21] <MrJerrai> u was thinking modern buildings
#2485 [16:22] <MrJerrai> *i
#2486 [16:22] <xJAries> modern pacman statue?
#2487 [16:22] <MrJerrai> hello mildly famous person
#2488 [16:22] <Validimus> hey there, I'm in need of some assistance/information.
#2489 [16:22] <MrJerrai> ok
#2490 [16:22] <MrJerrai> tell us the problem
#2491 [16:22] <xJAries> ye so i relaunched minecraft
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#2493 [16:22] <MrJerrai> and?
#2494 [16:23] <Kealper> it probably didn't fix it
#2495 [16:23] <Validimus> My minecraft doesn't launch properly, I get the EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) error
#2496 [16:23] <xJAries> what'll i do now?
#2497 [16:23] <MrJerrai> xJAries it should be fixed
#2498 [16:23] <MrJerrai> Validimus reinstall
#2499 [16:23] <Kealper> Validimus: uhh....does it have a nice, juicy error report to look at?
#2500 [16:24] <Validimus> I do
#2501 [16:24] <neviklink> john want to play on y server now
#2502 [16:24] <JonathanS> ok
#2503 [16:24] <Validimus> but when I use the minecraft patcher (for texture packs) it does launch...
#2504 [16:24] <xJAries> sure whats it called?
#2505 [16:24] <Kealper> Validimus: it does or doesn't?
#2506 [16:24] <Validimus> it does
#2507 [16:24] <Kealper> O.o
#2508 [16:24] <Kealper> oh
#2509 [16:24] <Validimus> it doesn't log in though
#2510 [16:24] <Validimus> but I can play single player on stand-alone perfectly
#2511 [16:25] <Kealper> go into the options ingame....choose the default texture pack, then reinstall minecraft
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#2513 [16:25] <Validimus> ^ I haven't patched it
#2514 [16:25] <Kealper> oh...
#2515 [16:25] <Kealper> so you don't have any texture packs installed?
#2516 [16:26] <Validimus> nope
#2517 [16:26] <Validimus> I do not
#2518 [16:26] <Kealper> well, i guess that idea flew out the window
#2519 [16:26] <xJAries> downloading terrain again
#2520 [16:26] <Conornxd> still stuck on downloading terrain
#2521 [16:26] <Kealper> xJAries: Conornxd: because it's probably not minecraft that's doing it
#2522 [16:26] <xJAries> ye i figured
#2523 [16:27] <Validimus> still want my juicy log btw, Kealper?
#2524 [16:27] <Kealper> usually the end of stream errors come from either software like ZoneAlarm installed, or network card driver troubles
#2525 [16:27] <Kealper> Validimus: read what you said back again, and yes please :P
#2526 [16:28] <Conornxd> would hamachi affect it?
#2527 [16:28] <Kealper> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2528 [16:28] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2529 [16:28] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2530 [16:28] <Kealper> it also lags to heck, and sucks
#2531 [16:28] <Kealper> so, that could be the issue
#2532 [16:28] <Conornxd> he has it on, but he doesnt use it
#2533 [16:28] <Conornxd> he has 25565 portforwarded
#2534 [16:29] <Kealper> brb in a few sec
#2535 [16:29] <Kealper> ok
#2536 [16:30] <Kealper> xJAries: connect to the minecraft server address mc.kealper.com
#2537 [16:30] <Validimus> Kealper >> http://www.privatepaste.com/95629dcb5f
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#2539 [16:31] <Kealper> Validimus: your video card drivers seem to be causing the crash
#2540 [16:32] <Validimus> thought so, but it's weird that the browser version does work (as does the stand-alone with the mcpatcher launch)
#2541 [16:32] <Kealper> weird....
#2542 [16:32] <Validimus> indeed, that's why I came here
#2543 [16:33] <xJAries> downloading terrain :(
#2544 [16:33] <Kealper> you could try reinstalling your graphics drivers from http://ati.com ...although i'm not sure if that will fix it :/
#2545 [16:33] <Validimus> already tried that, and omegadrivers
#2546 [16:34] <Validimus> didn't work
#2547 [16:34] <Kealper> Validimus: try making a new windows user account, and running minecraft off that
#2548 [16:34] <neviklink> anyone want to join my server
#2549 [16:34] <Validimus> I'll try that right now, brb
#2550 [16:34] <Kealper> something with your account could be messing it up
#2551 [16:35] <xJAries> got an internal exception
#2552 [16:35] <Kealper> xJAries: put the whole error on http://pastebin.com
#2553 [16:36] <Kealper> and then put the url to it in here
#2554 [16:36] <xJAries> y dont i just rite the error in the chat?
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#2556 [16:37] <Kealper> is it more than 2 lines?
#2557 [16:37] <xJAries> nope
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#2559 [16:37] <Kealper> oh, then yeah you can put it in here lol
#2560 [16:37] <xJAries> kk 1 sec
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#2562 [16:38] <confusedhatter> How can I get join Minecraft?
#2563 [16:38] <confusedhatter> how can I join?
#2564 [16:38] <confusedhatter> Do I need to register?
#2565 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2566 [16:38] <confusedhatter> How do I go about doing that?
#2567 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register email password
#2568 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> follow the directions in the email after
#2569 [16:38] <confusedhatter> ok :)
#2570 [16:38] <confusedhatter> thank you@
#2571 [16:38] <xJAries> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: connection reset
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#2573 [16:38] <Kealper> oh....
#2574 [16:39] <Kealper> not the error i thought it would be
#2575 [16:39] <Kealper> xJAries: are you using wireless?
#2576 [16:39] <xJAries> think so
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#2578 [16:40] <Kealper> hmm...could you try and plug your computer in to the router? it might fix the error
#2579 [16:40] <Validimus> same thing, crashes after login in launcher
#2580 [16:41] <Kealper> hmm....
#2581 [16:42] <Conornxd> kealper
#2582 [16:42] <Conornxd> hes on ethrenet
#2583 [16:42] <xJAries> no its wired
#2584 [16:42] <Kealper> Validimus: and it works fine in the browser?
#2585 [16:42] <Validimus> yeah, a bit slow, but fine
#2586 [16:43] <Validimus> as a matter of fact, I'm on there right now ^^
#2587 [16:43] <Kealper> Validimus: no idea why it does that then, you might be stuck playing it in the browser :/
#2588 [16:43] <Validimus> meh, 100mb more usage on the already mem-intensive game
#2589 [16:43] <Validimus> because of the browser that is
#2590 [16:44] <Kealper> Conornxd: well...it sounds like xJAries' network card driver is to blame
#2591 [16:44] <xJAries> how do i fix that?
#2592 [16:44] <Kealper> Conornxd: unless you are certain there is no firewall or antivirus software that is getting in the way
#2593 [16:44] <Kealper> Conornxd: because if there is, then that could be why it does that
#2594 [16:45] <xJAries> does macafee count?
#2595 [16:45] <Kealper> xJAries: only fix for that would be to get a new network card...windows seems to have lots of driver issues with those :/
#2596 [16:45] <xJAries> christ.
#2597 [16:45] <Kealper> uhh.....not sure if it has a firewall in it or not...try disabling everything on mcafee and trying again
#2598 [16:45] <Validimus> Kealper, might it help if I made a post on the official forums?
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#2600 [16:46] <Kealper> Validimus: i've seen others who have the same issue as you, with the client not working but the browser one working fine :/
#2601 [16:46] <Kealper> Validimus: you can probably find some forum posts on it already
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#2603 [16:47] <lukegb> Kealper: interesting that you should say that
#2604 [16:47] <Agumon286> Can you still make your camera face your self, or was that removed?
#2605 [16:48] <lukegb> the site uses some interesting java parameters :P
#2606 [16:48] <lukegb> -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -Dsun.awt.noerasebackground=true -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dsun.java2d.pmoffscreen=false -Xms512M -Xmx512M
#2607 [16:48] <Kealper> lukegb: orly?
#2608 [16:48] <Kealper> lukegb: you might just be a lifesaver for many a person
#2609 [16:48] <Kealper> !client Validimus download the .jar that AuBot is about to link
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#2611 [16:49] <Agumon286> Did notch remove the key where in thirdperson it would reverse the direction?
#2612 [16:49] <Kealper> yes
#2613 [16:50] <Agumon286> :(
#2614 [16:50] <Kealper> Validimus: while you download that....brb while i make a sandwich
#2615 [16:50] <Agumon286> Does anyone know of any mods that would allow me to use the camera that way again?
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#2617 [16:52] <Validimus> still doesn't work, sadly... almost thought it did
#2618 [16:53] <Kealper> Validimus: well, the jar alone isn't going to fix it, but what i tell you now should
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#2620 [16:53] <Kealper> Validimus: got the file somewhere safe? (so that you won't accidentally delete it)
#2621 [16:54] <Validimus> yeah I do
#2622 [16:55] <Kealper> ok, make a new text document in the same folder as that minecraft.jar
#2623 [16:55] <Validimus> done
#2624 [16:55] <Kealper> got it open in notepad?
#2625 [16:56] <Validimus> do now
#2626 [16:56] <Kealper> put this in it: java -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -Dsun.awt.noerasebackground=true -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dsun.java2d.pmoffscreen=false -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2627 [16:56] <Validimus> and launch it afterwards?
#2628 [16:56] <Kealper> then go to File, select Save As, and save it as start.bat
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#2630 [16:57] <Kealper> then run the bat file
#2631 [16:57] <Validimus> works
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#2633 [16:57] <Kealper> you can login and everything normally now?
#2634 [16:57] <Validimus> opengl is the issue then I guess?
#2635 [16:57] <Validimus> yeah
#2636 [16:57] <lukegb> it worked? :D
#2637 [16:57] <Kealper> \o/
#2638 [16:57] <lukegb> TROLLING LUKEGB IS SUCCESSFUL
#2639 [16:58] <Validimus> thanks ^^
#2640 [16:58] <lukegb> Kealper: you gonna post it on the forums? :P
#2641 [16:58] <JayEff> hey guys, I'm having trouble with minecraft. just bought it and was about to explore a little bit when the screen went black and the title said "(not responding)". happens every 3 minutes and so far I could only close the game and reopen it. Can only play for 3 minutes ... :(
#2642 [16:58] <Kealper> lukegb: i should....lol
#2643 [16:58] <JayEff> should've asked the forum first, shouldn't I? :x
#2644 [16:59] <xales> JayEff: Turn down render distance, turn off smooth lighting
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#2646 [17:00] <xales> and no..the forums tend to be beyond stupid, good thing you came here
#2647 [17:00] <Kealper> bleh.....too lazy to post to forum
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#2649 [17:01] <JayEff> xales: thanks - so my computer isn't able to handle minecraft's awesome grafics, huh? ^^
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#2651 [17:02] <xales> It might look simple to a person, but it's just as complex for the computer to display as any other game
#2652 [17:03] <JayEff> yeah, although the textures obviously are low res, there's probably a lot in the world to display ... too bad, I had hoped I could enjoy huge view distances.
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#2654 [17:04] <Kadey> what sorta specs are you using JayEff?
#2655 [17:05] <JayEff> 2.2 Ghz dual core, geforce 8600 mGT, 2GB Ram
#2656 [17:05] <xales> lolwut
#2657 [17:05] <JayEff> that said, my laptop is old and a bit ... moody
#2658 [17:05] <Kealper> o.o
#2659 [17:05] <xales> oh ha
#2660 [17:05] <xales> connection limit
#2661 [17:06] <Kealper> those are all from different addresses though
#2662 [17:06] <xales> ..I think
#2663 [17:06] <Kealper> and it looks like random bot names
#2664 [17:06] <xales> O_o
#2665 [17:06] <xales> so it is
#2666 [17:06] <Kadey> Hmm, yeah, I have issues running MC on my laptop too JayEff - its a little slower than that though I think
#2667 [17:07] <xales> bread
#2668 [17:07] <xales> y u so pingy
#2669 [17:07] <xales> http://pastebin.com/bsx7YUNU
#2670 [17:07] <xales> D:
#2671 [17:07] <Kealper> lol
#2672 [17:07] <JayEff> sometimes it just bluescreens for no apparent reason and I have to reboot... so yeah, need a new computer. One more question: where's the game data? My launcher folder is empty except for the launcher and I doubt the game's only the launcher since it's only a few hundret KB.
#2673 [17:08] <xales> ??> JayEff win/.minecraft
#2674 [17:08] <VoxelHead> JayEff: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#2675 [17:09] <JayEff> alright, thanks... I suppose that makes sense for people who put the launcher in the programs folder where you need to be admin to have writing access - and it would be annoying to be asked whenever you start mc :)
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#2679 [17:22] <mib_rpkrxm> hi can anyone here help with an xfce prop?
#2680 [17:22] <xales> Why would you come to #minecrafthelp for help with XFCE?
#2681 [17:22] <xales> Go to #xfce on Freenode
#2682 [17:22] <xales> derp
#2683 [17:23] <mib_rpkrxm> no i frun ubuntu and xfce but my prob is with minecraft.
#2684 [17:23] <mib_rpkrxm> i can play singleplayer
#2685 [17:24] <JayEff> damn them creepers.
#2686 [17:25] <xales> Why would you say the problem is with XFCE then? ._.
#2687 [17:25] <xales> Anyway, what is the problem?
#2688 [17:25] <mib_rpkrxm> i bought the game but i cant get into the multilayer servers. the connection ether takes to long and times out or i get a " bad name" error. wat do?
#2689 [17:26] <xales> What username are you logging in with?
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#2691 [17:26] <mib_rpkrxm> the name i set when i log in on minecraft.net
#2692 [17:27] <xales> Yes
#2693 [17:27] <mib_rpkrxm> why?
#2694 [17:28] <xales> So I can check that you actually bought it?
#2695 [17:28] <mib_rpkrxm> happy_daddy
#2696 [17:29] <mib_rpkrxm> how can you check?
#2697 [17:29] <mib_rpkrxm> im loggedf in atm
#2698 [17:29] <xales> Magic. Anyway, open a Terminal window, and run `ping minecraft.net`
#2699 [17:29] <xales> The first line will say 'Pinging minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx] with 32 bytes of data'
#2700 [17:30] <xales> or something similar
#2701 [17:30] <mib_rpkrxm> magnets?
#2702 [17:30] <xales> what is the [xx.xx.xx.xx] numbers
#2703 [17:30] <gPad2002> IP?
#2704 [17:30] <xales> gPad2002: of course
#2705 [17:31] <mib_rpkrxm> damn tards are everywhere
#2706 [17:32] <mib_rpkrxm> ;-D
#2707 [17:32] * xales waits for an answer
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#2708 [17:33] <mib_rpkrxm> 50.16.203.217
#2709 [17:34] <xales> Now run `cat /etc/hosts` and copy the output (all of it) to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link it sends you to after clicking submit
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#2712 [17:35] <Silenceheaven> halp
#2713 [17:36] <xales> With?
#2714 [17:36] <Silenceheaven> mineos. I successfully installed it on a vps but when i type ifconfig i only get a local ip
#2715 [17:36] <Silenceheaven> so how can i connect
#2716 [17:36] <xales> We can't help with third party software, sorry
#2717 [17:36] <Silenceheaven> do they have a channel
#2718 [17:36] <xales> I don't know
#2719 [17:37] <xales> You should probably ask for help on the forum
#2720 [17:37] <Silenceheaven> >.< alright thanks for the help
#2721 [17:38] <JayEff> maximizing the window seems to crash the game for me
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#2723 [17:46] <gPad2002> Slight spam incoming
#2724 [17:46] <gPad2002> ~reload
#2725 [17:46] <gPad2002> (within the next 5 mins that is)
#2726 [17:47] <aetherian> uh oh
#2727 [17:47] <gPad2002> It'll just send two lines
#2728 [17:47] <gPad2002> Hopefully
#2729 [17:47] <aetherian> an atom bomb!
#2730 [17:47] <gPad2002> :P
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#2733 [17:53] <gPad2002> Uh
#2734 [17:53] <gPad2002> I guess
#2735 [17:53] <gPad2002> Its not gonna do it
#2736 [17:53] * gPad2002 gingerly pokes McPlusPlus
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#2737 [18:02] <aetherian> watch out
#2738 [18:02] <aetherian> he'll bite it off
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#2740 [18:08] <stomper> question, me and my friend have set up a server on his lap top and its working perfectly\
#2741 [18:08] <aetherian> good
#2742 [18:08] <stomper> but whenever we try to transfer it to his desk top(same router etc) it no longer works
#2743 [18:08] <stomper> what could the problem be?
#2744 [18:08] <aetherian> you need to set portforwards again
#2745 [18:09] <stomper> we did that
#2746 [18:09] <aetherian> you sure? well then, u
#2747 [18:09] <aetherian> *uh
#2748 [18:09] <stomper> ill double check, he keep complaining about having to recheck it every time to make sure its right
#2749 [18:09] <aetherian> heh
#2750 [18:10] <stomper> is there more than one portforward we need to change? that might be it
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#2752 [18:10] <aetherian> you need to make it so that the port is not forwarded to the laptop, but instead to the desktop
#2753 [18:12] * PH0ENIX [PH0ENIX@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2754 [18:12] <PH0ENIX> hello all
#2755 [18:12] <PH0ENIX> i come to you in need of help, whos up for the challenge?
#2756 [18:13] <aetherian> ooh ooh
#2757 [18:13] <aetherian> pick me pick me
#2758 [18:13] <aetherian> :D
#2759 [18:13] <PH0ENIX> lol, hey aetherian
#2760 [18:13] <PH0ENIX> im having trouble running a server :-\
#2761 [18:13] <aetherian> big surprise
#2762 [18:14] <PH0ENIX> yea yea yea
#2763 [18:14] <PH0ENIX> i got the server running, i think
#2764 [18:14] <stomper> you must get that question a lot lol
#2765 [18:14] <PH0ENIX> lol
#2766 [18:14] <aetherian> what be the problem
#2767 [18:15] <PH0ENIX> in the server window, i can see my client connecting, then it kicks it saying i need to log in
#2768 [18:15] <PH0ENIX> and my client closes
#2769 [18:15] <aetherian> and you've paid?
#2770 [18:15] <PH0ENIX> my issue is, i am logged in already
#2771 [18:15] <PH0ENIX> paid program
#2772 [18:15] <PH0ENIX> i tried setting the verify player name to false and it still does it
#2773 [18:16] <PH0ENIX> i can play online anywhere else
#2774 [18:16] <aetherian> o.o
#2775 [18:16] <aetherian> wait what
#2776 [18:16] <PH0ENIX> indeed
#2777 [18:16] <aetherian> what did you change
#2778 [18:16] <aetherian> in what
#2779 [18:17] <PH0ENIX> verify-names=true
#2780 [18:17] <PH0ENIX> in the server properties
#2781 [18:17] <PH0ENIX> i tried setting that to false, the FAQ said that might help
#2782 [18:17] <aetherian> is this a beta server?
#2783 [18:17] <PH0ENIX> yes
#2784 [18:17] <PH0ENIX> i think...
#2785 [18:17] <aetherian> where are you setting it to false?
#2786 [18:17] <PH0ENIX> got it from minecraft.net
#2787 [18:18] <PH0ENIX> come to think of it, it doesnt say if its beta or classic
#2788 [18:18] <aetherian> !server
#2789 [18:18] <aetherian> get that
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#2791 [18:20] <PH0ENIX> ah
#2792 [18:20] <PH0ENIX> ok
#2793 [18:21] <PH0ENIX> the guy
#2794 [18:21] <PH0ENIX> *gui
#2795 [18:21] <PH0ENIX> preparing spawn area
#2796 [18:21] <aetherian> good
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#2798 [18:21] <PH0ENIX> i had this before, the pc didnt like it though
#2799 [18:22] <PH0ENIX> on my work computer
#2800 [18:22] <aetherian> "the pc didn't like it"
#2801 [18:22] <aetherian> you know computer's don't have feelings, right?
#2802 [18:22] <PH0ENIX> it failed halfway through loading the spawn area
#2803 [18:22] <aetherian> *computers
#2804 [18:22] <aetherian> is this a really old computer?
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#2806 [18:23] <PH0ENIX> the current one, or my work computer that it failed on?
#2807 [18:23] <aetherian> never mind you
#2808 [18:23] <aetherian> has it loaded yet?
#2809 [18:24] <PH0ENIX> it had an error message, one sec
#2810 [18:24] <PH0ENIX> connecting to irc on that computer so i can copy/paste
#2811 [18:24] <xales> err, don't paste it directly into IRC
#2812 [18:24] <xales> paste it on http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link
#2813 [18:24] <aetherian> or pastebin...
#2814 [18:24] <lukegb> Paste straight into IRC
#2815 [18:24] <lukegb> Yes, do that.
#2816 [18:24] <PH0ENIX> its one line
#2817 [18:25] <lukegb> Pasting into IRC's great!
#2818 [18:25] <PH0ENIX> lol i been on irc enough years yo know not to flood a room
#2819 [18:25] <aetherian> especially when you're pasting pi to the nth digit
#2820 [18:25] <lukegb> If you paste into pastebin, you waste valuable bits and make the ops have to do more work!
#2821 [18:25] <PH0ENIX> used yo have a script for pie...
#2822 [18:25] <PH0ENIX> :-P
#2823 [18:25] <lukegb> aetherian: 3.1
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#2825 [18:25] <CYPH3R> there
#2826 [18:26] <Rhayvin> I like apple... pi is what you mean and I can paste pi... 22/7
#2827 [18:26] <stomper> ok, I'm back with new info about my problem
#2828 [18:26] <stomper> the server is running fine on the desktop that it is being hosted on
#2829 [18:26] <lukegb> Rhayvin: that's not pi D:
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#2831 [18:26] <aetherian> 3.141592653589793248626...
#2832 [18:26] <Rhayvin> it's an oversimplification of the ratio.
#2833 [18:27] <CYPH3R> http://pastebin.com/BPndDjQW
#2834 [18:27] <aetherian> I don't know lots
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#2836 [18:27] <CYPH3R> there aetherian, i copied the full message to pastebin
#2837 [18:27] <lukegb> Rhayvin: it makes me sad, due to the fact that it deviates after like 8 digits
#2838 [18:27] <Deathconsuming> Ran into an error after a griefer attacked my server, http://pastebin.com/csJRxxUT
#2839 [18:27] <Deathconsuming> Anyone know how to fix it?
#2840 [18:27] <aetherian> protocol error :o
#2841 [18:27] <stomper> but whenever I try to connect from my house(different house from the host house) it says my IP address on his server actions view thing but then says I disconnect
#2842 [18:27] <Deathconsuming> Like no one can connect
#2843 [18:28] <Rhayvin> and most mathematics use only the first 4 decimal points
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#2845 [18:28] <Rhayvin> places i mean
#2846 [18:28] <aetherian> I was in some quiz that needed 3.1415, true.
#2847 [18:28] <stomper> I honestly didn't know things could have more than one decimal point
#2848 [18:28] <aetherian> but better accurate than inaccurate :D
#2849 [18:28] <TheBobber> Hi. I built a portal near a squid pool & surface lava lake that I liked... quite far from my spawn point... however when I made a portal I transported to a previous portal I had made instead of a new one & now I can't get back because the old portal takes me to the one next to my spawn point.... how can I force the furthest portal to grab me?
#2850 [18:28] <Deathconsuming> aetherian, do you think you can help
#2851 [18:28] <Coll> TheBobber
#2852 [18:28] <aetherian> Deathconsuming: what's actually wrong with the server
#2853 [18:29] <Coll> you have to clear the way
#2854 [18:29] <lukegb> CYPH3R: hmm. Old minecraft client? Or new one?
#2855 [18:29] <aetherian> is everything functioning normally?
#2856 [18:29] <Deathconsuming> http://pastebin.com/csJRxxUT that makes it so know one can connect >_<
#2857 [18:29] <Coll> something is obstructing where the orginal portal should be
#2858 [18:29] <aetherian> Deathconsuming: restart the server then
#2859 [18:29] <Coll> so it makes a new portal but they dont nessarily connect
#2860 [18:29] <Deathconsuming> Did that multiple times
#2861 [18:29] <lukegb> Deathconsuming: err, restart the server and remove the proxy.
#2862 [18:29] <Deathconsuming> What proxy...
#2863 [18:29] <lukegb> It's trying to check your username via a socks proxy.
#2864 [18:29] <lukegb> ... I think.
#2865 [18:29] <Deathconsuming> Where the hell is this proxy >_<
#2866 [18:30] <TheBobber> ya I understand that but I don't know where to clear in the underworld
#2867 [18:30] <Rhayvin> time for the annual query. any news on a patch to fix the code glitch causing the excessive lag?
#2868 [18:30] <aetherian> Rhayvin: no.
#2869 [18:30] <lukegb> Deathconsuming: what are you running it on?
#2870 [18:30] <TheBobber> I made a new one in a straight line because I walked in a straight line & instead I was on an island at a 90 degree path
#2871 [18:30] <Deathconsuming> Windows 7, backup clean laptop
#2872 [18:30] <lukegb> Deathconsuming: the server?
#2873 [18:30] <PH0ENIX> aetherian, i can connect to that one, it just spawned me off the map, i fell for awhile, and had a java socket exception, and connection reset
#2874 [18:31] <Deathconsuming> So restarted it and it fixed...wtf? I restarted it 15 times >_<
#2875 [18:31] <aetherian> uh-huh
#2876 [18:31] <Deathconsuming> I did I was like omfg wtf
#2877 [18:31] <Rhayvin> MC is so advanced it has fuzzy logic algorithms controlling all aspects especially the creepers.
#2878 [18:32] <PH0ENIX> aetherian you can pm me if you want, or i can wait till youre less busy
#2879 [18:32] <PH0ENIX> seems to be several people that need help atm
#2880 [18:32] <aetherian> sorry, what was your problem phoenix?
#2881 [18:33] <PH0ENIX> ah
#2882 [18:33] <PH0ENIX> i connected to the one you linked me to
#2883 [18:33] <PH0ENIX> loaded
#2884 [18:33] <PH0ENIX> then i think it spawned me off the map
#2885 [18:33] <aetherian> I never linked you to anything
#2886 [18:33] <PH0ENIX> the server download
#2887 [18:33] <PH0ENIX> for beta
#2888 [18:33] <aetherian> oh
#2889 [18:33] <aetherian> right
#2890 [18:33] <aetherian> I knew that
#2891 [18:33] <PH0ENIX> lol
#2892 [18:34] <aetherian> you waited for it to fully load?
#2893 [18:34] <PH0ENIX> then the client disconnected
#2894 [18:34] <PH0ENIX> yes
#2895 [18:34] <aetherian> if so, then close the windows
#2896 [18:34] <aetherian> *window
#2897 [18:34] <PH0ENIX> it had a couple errors
#2898 [18:34] <aetherian> that's normal
#2899 [18:34] <PH0ENIX> which i pasted to pastebin
#2900 [18:34] <aetherian> close it, and reopen it
#2901 [18:34] <PH0ENIX> ok
#2902 [18:35] <PH0ENIX> that was much faster, ill try to connect again
#2903 [18:35] <stomper> @aetherian the guy thats running the server I'm asking for help about is going to log on to here, he'll be able to explain our problem better
#2904 [18:36] <PH0ENIX> i think it spawned off the map again
#2905 [18:36] <PH0ENIX> all i see are stard
#2906 [18:36] <PH0ENIX> *stars
#2907 [18:36] <PH0ENIX> no error though
#2908 [18:36] <aetherian> and the server says it's done loading? hmm.
#2909 [18:37] <PH0ENIX> yea im falling, epis lag too
#2910 [18:37] <PH0ENIX> trying to work out why
#2911 [18:38] <stomper> aetherian thank you for being here to help people out with this kinda stuff
#2912 [18:38] <PH0ENIX> i agree with stomper
#2913 [18:38] <PH0ENIX> lol i wasnt sure id find anyone
#2914 [18:39] <stomper> honestly we've been stuck and looking everywhere for a solution to our problem but haven't been able to find anything
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#2916 [18:39] <PH0ENIX> the server is nowhere capacity, and im on a lan...
#2917 [18:39] <PH0ENIX> odd
#2918 [18:39] <aetherian> what's your problem, stomper? and why does it seem as if there's a huge lull, then everybody needs help?
#2919 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> That happens aetherian..
#2920 [18:40] <aetherian> PH0ENIX: it could be your computer can't support running them
#2921 [18:40] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: so I see
#2922 [18:40] <PH0ENIX> shouldnt, 6gb ram, 2 duel core xeons, windows server 2008
#2923 [18:40] <aetherian> oh, I thought...
#2924 [18:40] <aetherian> never mind you then
#2925 [18:41] <xales> aetherian: what problem is he having?
#2926 [18:41] <PH0ENIX> wha
#2927 [18:41] <PH0ENIX> server lagged off irc
#2928 [18:41] <aetherian> xales: when he makes the server and goes on it, it's laggy/he falls down forever
#2929 [18:41] <xales> aetherian: firewall?
#2930 [18:41] <aetherian> tell that to him not me
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#2932 [18:41] <xales> so you didn't check? :P
#2933 [18:42] <PH0ENIX> firewalls are disabeled
#2934 [18:42] <aetherian> he said he could connect
#2935 [18:42] <aetherian> so I figured it was okay
#2936 [18:42] <xales> PH0ENIX: what firewall, specifically?
#2937 [18:42] <PH0ENIX> port is open and verified
#2938 [18:42] <xales> ZoneAlarm?
#2939 [18:42] <PH0ENIX> windows firewall, the server is set to a DMZ in the router
#2940 [18:42] <xales> and there is no other firewall?
#2941 [18:42] <PH0ENIX> not that i know of, shouldnt be anything else installed
#2942 [18:43] <Rhayvin> just me or does zonealarm seem to be the culprit behind every server issue
#2943 [18:43] <PH0ENIX> i dont use that shit :-P
#2944 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Zonealarm makes up for quite a portion of server issues we see here
#2945 [18:43] <PH0ENIX> my client just lost the connection
#2946 [18:44] <PH0ENIX> hmm
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#2948 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> That's why many times it's our first question
#2949 [18:44] <Rhayvin> yeah I tried it a few years ago... I think I uninstalled it so fast it left a vapor trail in the 60's
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#2953 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Whose server is this?
#2954 [18:44] <stomper> Well our problem is that the server is running perfectly on one computer, then we switch it over to a second computer on the same internet and connected to the same router. After changing the port forwarding to the correct one for the second computer. Now we're able to log onto the server from the computer the server is on perfectly...
#2955 [18:44] <xales> PH0ENIX: What model is the NIC in the server?
#2956 [18:45] <CYPH3R> can i pm you?
#2957 [18:45] <CYPH3R> <-- PH0ENIX
#2958 [18:45] <stomper> ... but when we try to connect to it from a different computer it says "Logging on" till it times out
#2959 [18:45] <xales> ??> CYPH3R irc/dontpm
#2960 [18:45] <VoxelHead> CYPH3R: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#2961 [18:45] <xales> stomper: is there a firewall running on the server? what model of NIC?
#2962 [18:45] <stomper> all of the firewalls on the computer are turned off
#2963 [18:46] <CYPH3R> i was just gonna use a script to relay the specs, didnt wanna broadcast the ip
#2964 [18:46] <xales> what were they, because most of them don't actually "turn off"
#2965 [18:46] <CYPH3R> oh irc is showing the wronf connection
#2966 [18:46] <CYPH3R> one sec
#2967 [18:47] <stomper> kaspersky is the security software running on the computer, other than that there's only windows
#2968 [18:47] <stomper> windowsfirewall*
#2969 [18:47] <xales> stomper: what model of NIC?
#2970 [18:47] <CYPH3R> Intel PRO/1000 XT
#2971 [18:48] <CYPH3R> running through a cisco gigabit router
#2972 [18:48] <stomper> xales looking it up right now
#2973 [18:48] <xales> CYPH3R: hmm, that should be fine.
#2974 [18:48] <CYPH3R> indeed
#2975 [18:48] <CYPH3R> im on a 4U rack server
#2976 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> stomper - Did you say you're running kaspersky AV, or the security suite?
#2977 [18:48] <CYPH3R> plenty of power
#2978 [18:49] <stomper> kaspersky AV I believe
#2979 [18:49] <xales> CYPH3R: how are you actually launching the server?
#2980 [18:49] <CYPH3R> the .exe
#2981 [18:49] <CYPH3R> and launching the gui
#2982 [18:50] <xales> what about resource usage on the server? is it particularly high with the server running?
#2983 [18:50] <xales> also, is it running a 64bit OS?
#2984 [18:51] * CYPH3R [CYPH3R@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2985 [18:51] <CYPH3R> wtf
#2986 [18:51] <CYPH3R> what was my quit message on that?
#2987 [18:51] <xales> 18:50:40 -!- CYPH3R [PH0ENIX@c-71-56-101-227.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
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#2989 [18:52] <CYPH3R> ah i see it
#2990 [18:52] <CYPH3R> no, its a 32bit
#2991 [18:52] <Rhayvin> comcast??? I thought they were the worst ISP ever.
#2992 [18:52] <CYPH3R> i had 64bit on here but there were programs i was using that only ran on 32
#2993 [18:52] * GreyVulpine coughs, "Roadrunner"
#2993 [18:53] <Rhayvin> hey now watch it... what I'm on and never had an sissue with dc's or even running my server.
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#2995 [18:54] <PH0ENIX> om on comcast
#2996 [18:54] <PH0ENIX> bit im also connecting through a lan
#2997 [18:55] <xales> The server does seem to be having some connectivitiy issues
#2998 [18:55] <xales> especially if you can't keep a stable connection to IRC
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#3000 [18:56] <PH0ENIX> only on that computer, and when the server is running, this computer is on the same network
#3001 [18:56] <stomper> xales the version of kaspersky is the internet security one, also: where do I go to find out which NIC I have?
#3002 [18:56] <Rhayvin> is it a registered domain name or are you trying to run it through your standard internet connection. those isps don't like it when you try to host stuff through a residential connection.
#3003 [18:56] <xales> PH0ENIX: Are you actually connecting over the LAN? Using the local IP?
#3004 [18:56] <PH0ENIX> yes
#3005 [18:57] <Rhayvin> I tried that too... didn't work so well. had to actually get my laptops external IP and go in like a user.
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#3007 [18:57] <TheBobber> so of a portal is at sea level do I need to go down or up in the nether to make one that connects?
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#3009 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> TheBobber - It only matters in the horizontal sense.
#3010 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> The displacement from overworld to the nether is 8x, but only in the horizontal delta
#3011 [18:58] <PH0ENIX> hmm
#3012 [18:58] <PH0ENIX> ill try that then
#3013 [18:58] <TheBobber> hmmm.... wonder how far I have to go then...
#3014 [18:59] <xales> stomper: Device Manager
#3015 [18:59] <CYPH3R> [INFO] PH0ENIX9119 lost connection: disconnect.overflow
#3016 [19:00] <aetherian> back
#3017 [19:00] <Sakara> My little sister and friends wanted me to setup and host them a server for minecraft v1.4 beta. Its been up for a day and burned through a fair amount of bandwidth. Anyone have suggestions for lowering the bandwidth usage of the server?
#3018 [19:00] <Rhayvin> since i might be wrong but I think port forwarding only affects connections coming into the router from the web. not between machines on the same network
#3019 [19:01] <PH0ENIX> im now connected through the external ip
#3020 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> Sakara: Minecraft by its very nature uses a lot of bandwidth
#3021 [19:01] <PH0ENIX> not helping
#3022 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> there's not much to be done about it, sorry
#3023 [19:01] <xales> PH0ENIX: ah, that
#3024 [19:01] <xales> that's usually due to NIC buffer errors
#3025 [19:01] <xales> (read: almost always)
#3026 [19:01] <xales> in some, you can fix it, in most you can't
#3027 [19:01] <PH0ENIX> how do i verify/fix that?
#3028 [19:02] <PH0ENIX> im hosting on a full webserver, should be build for this
#3029 [19:02] <Sakara> DopeGhoti: I've not tested but does reducing draw distance on the clients and removing mobs lower the bandwidth usage by any reasonable amount?
#3030 [19:02] <PH0ENIX> it used to run an irc network...
#3031 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> Sakara: not much, because the data is still there; it's just not rendered on the client.
#3032 [19:03] <xales> PH0ENIX: I'm not really sure how to do it on Windows
#3033 [19:03] <xales> you should ask Kealper about that
#3034 [19:03] <Sakara> DopeGhoti: Ok that fair enough, how about removing mobs? in the grand scheme of things does it make a notable difference?
#3035 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Should be a NIC property on the device manager of Windows
#3036 [19:03] <PH0ENIX> its a Dell PowerEdge 2600 if you need specs
#3037 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Check out the network adapter in the device manager of windows, look at the properties for it.
#3038 [19:03] <PH0ENIX> im looking now
#3039 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> See if you can't see a transmit or recieve buffer setting
#3040 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> Sakara: most of the bandwidth usage is in terms of terrain.
#3041 [19:04] <PH0ENIX> yea its set at 512
#3042 [19:04] <Sakara> ok thanks for your help DopeGhoti
#3043 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> That the max PH0ENIX?
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#3045 [19:04] <PH0ENIX> nope
#3046 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Can you try upping it?
#3047 [19:04] <PH0ENIX> its at 2MB now
#3048 [19:05] <PH0ENIX> i think, it doesnt list its value...
#3049 [19:05] <PH0ENIX> or unit, rather
#3050 [19:06] <stomper> xales: its a Generic Marvell Yukon Chipset based Ethernet Control
#3051 [19:06] <xales> stomper: it might be missing a driver then...you should update/install chipset/NIC drivers
#3052 [19:07] <PH0ENIX> i upped the transmit and recieve buffers
#3053 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Now try MC again
#3054 [19:07] <PH0ENIX> falling
#3055 [19:07] <PH0ENIX> you can try connecting if you want
#3056 [19:08] * xales stabs Kealper with PH0ENIX's problem
#3056 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, as a test, could you turn off the server, go into the server.properties, and turn off monsters, then relaunch it
#3057 [19:08] * Kealper rawrs
#3057 [19:08] <PH0ENIX> err
#3058 [19:08] <PH0ENIX> as soon as i find it
#3059 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Same directory where you have the server.exe/jar
#3060 [19:08] <stomper> xales: Ok, we'll get on that then. *crosses fingers*
#3061 [19:08] <Kealper> 512 is more than adequite
#3062 [19:08] <PH0ENIX> i thought so too
#3063 [19:09] <PH0ENIX> its at 2048 now though
#3064 [19:09] <Kealper> it actually let you set it that high?
#3065 [19:09] <PH0ENIX> lol
#3066 [19:09] <PH0ENIX> yea
#3067 [19:09] <PH0ENIX> the hardware is good
#3068 [19:10] <Kealper> weird....most won't let you set it higher than 512 if it even lets your raise it
#3069 [19:10] <Kealper> apparently lol
#3070 [19:10] <PH0ENIX> thats why im confused
#3071 [19:10] <xales> PH0ENIX: There might be some sort of routing issue, if it can't even hold a stable connection to IRC
#3072 [19:10] <Kealper> so what's the issue exactly? the world never loads for you, and you end up disconnecting from either a timeout or end of stream?
#3073 [19:10] <Kealper> what xales said
#3074 [19:10] <PH0ENIX> Dell PowerEdge 2600 <--- Kealper
#3075 [19:10] <xales> Kealper: The server sees an overflow, not sure about the client
#3076 [19:11] <Kealper> oh
#3077 [19:11] <Kealper> that explains why you can set the buffers so high lol
#3078 [19:11] <Kealper> hmm...so everyone who connects to your server gets that then?
#3079 [19:11] <PH0ENIX> no clue, no one else has connected
#3080 [19:11] <PH0ENIX> you can try if you want
#3081 [19:12] <Kealper> address?
#3082 [19:12] <xales> !check c-71-56-101-227.hsd1.ga.comcast.net]
#3083 [19:12] <xales> !check c-71-56-101-227.hsd1.ga.comcast.net
#3084 [19:12] <xales> :|
#3085 [19:12] <xales> !check c-71-56-101-227.hsd1.ga.comcast.net
#3086 [19:12] <Kealper> too fast
#3087 [19:12] <xales> lol
#3088 [19:12] <xales> yup, that was it
#3089 [19:12] <xales> !lookup c-71-56-101-227.hsd1.ga.comcast.net]
#3090 [19:12] <Kealper> i still need to fix that
#3091 [19:12] <xales> there you go Kealper
#3092 [19:12] <xales> :P
#3093 [19:13] <Kealper> that's my ip
#3094 [19:13] <xales> oh, haha
#3095 [19:13] <PH0ENIX> 71.56.101.227
#3096 [19:13] <Kealper> it's error handling is dumb
#3097 [19:13] <PH0ENIX> thts the addy
#3098 [19:13] <xales> hmm, is M still..
#3099 [19:13] <xales> !dns c-71-56-101-227.hsd1.ga.comcast.net]
#3100 [19:13] <xales> nope
#3101 [19:13] <PH0ENIX> i see 2 people connected
#3102 [19:14] <Kealper> xales: you realize how you're failing with that right? lol
#3103 [19:14] <xales> Kealper: yes
#3104 [19:14] <Kealper> !lookup c-71-56-101-227.hsd1.ga.comcast.net
#3105 [19:14] <xales> but whatever
#3106 [19:14] <xales> an error is just as good as a real result
#3107 [19:14] <xales> :>
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#3109 [19:14] <xales> wait, really ._.
#3110 [19:14] <xales> oh, I turned it off because M is linked to Voxel
#3111 [19:14] <VoxelHead> derp
#3112 [19:16] <aetherian> :o nice
#3113 [19:17] <aetherian> but...
#3114 [19:17] <aetherian> is that a necessary thing?
#3115 [19:17] <aetherian> seems abuse worthy
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#3117 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> wait what?
#3118 [19:17] <aetherian> what wait?
#3119 [19:17] * DopeGhoti was interjecting at xales
#3119 [19:18] <PH0ENIX> Kealper and whoever else in in my server http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31388422&l=58282a67bd&id=1122600043 is in my living room.... http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30811891&l=19ee44b9f3&id=1122600043 is my basement
#3120 [19:18] * aetherian was interjecting at DopeGhoti
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#3121 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> Facebook is in your living room, PH0ENIX? Scary.
#3122 [19:18] <Kealper> LOL
#3123 [19:18] <xales> DopeGhoti: I had M in here, but not needed because of Voxel
#3124 [19:18] <aetherian> wow.
#3125 [19:18] <Kealper> it's the whole rack
#3126 [19:18] <PH0ENIX> lol
#3127 [19:19] <PH0ENIX> i said the hardware wasnt the ussue
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#3129 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> "the whole rack" *snrk*
#3130 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> you have no diea, Kealper
#3131 [19:20] <PH0ENIX> lol
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#3133 [19:20] <dmkap> hey
#3134 [19:20] <PH0ENIX> not compared to where i got it from
#3135 [19:20] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i was expecting some tower pc, not a rackmount thing (with the rack)
#3136 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> Facebook ordered no less than 90 full 42U racks of servers from $employer a couple years ago.
#3137 [19:21] <Kealper> wow
#3138 [19:21] <Kealper> that had to be a pretty penny
#3139 [19:21] <aetherian> no
#3140 [19:21] <PH0ENIX> yall in the US?
#3141 [19:21] <aetherian> it was an ugly penny
#3142 [19:21] <Kealper> indeed
#3143 [19:21] <PH0ENIX> familer with NAPA auto parts
#3144 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> no, it was lots of poorly-printed cheques
#3145 [19:21] <PH0ENIX> ?
#3146 [19:21] <Kealper> not familiar, but i know of them
#3147 [19:21] <aetherian> boing boing boing
#3148 [19:22] <PH0ENIX> ok, this is all from their data center, its in ATL
#3149 [19:22] * Joey4C [Joey4C@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3150 [19:22] <Joey4C> quick question!
#3151 [19:22] <dmkap> does anyone know if its possible to change a profile username
#3152 [19:22] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: lol
#3153 [19:22] <aetherian> yes?
#3154 [19:22] <Joey4C> where can I find list of servers?
#3155 [19:22] <Joey4C> :D
#3156 [19:22] <PH0ENIX> did yall disconnect on purpose?
#3157 [19:22] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: yeah
#3158 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers
#3159 [19:22] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3160 [19:22] <PH0ENIX> ok
#3161 [19:22] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3162 [19:22] <aetherian> ...
#3163 [19:22] <Joey4C> thank you
#3164 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> dmkap: no.
#3165 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> Joey4C: anytime
#3166 [19:22] <dmkap> dang...
#3167 [19:22] * Thoatt is superbly jealous of PH0ENIX's guitar.
#3167 [19:22] <PH0ENIX> so any idea why im lagging if the server isnt?
#3168 [19:23] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: ok so...how are you connecting to your server?
#3169 [19:23] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: external ip? or internal?
#3170 [19:23] <PH0ENIX> i see Thoatt found the rest of my fb pics...
#3171 [19:23] <PH0ENIX> Kealper i tried both
#3172 [19:23] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: Thoatt happens lol
#3173 [19:23] <Kealper> hmm...
#3174 [19:23] * mib_utu34w [mib_utu34w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3175 [19:23] <mib_utu34w> hey i have a favor?
#3176 [19:24] <PH0ENIX> i fall then i eventually hit land
#3177 [19:24] <mib_utu34w> can some one make me a server?
#3178 [19:24] <Kealper> mib_utu34w: make you a server?\
#3179 [19:24] <PH0ENIX> then when i dig the sand it just comes back after 5-6 seconds
#3180 [19:24] <mib_utu34w> ye
#3181 [19:24] <mib_utu34w> a beta smp server?
#3182 [19:24] <Kealper> mib_utu34w: like...help you set one up? or run one for you?
#3183 [19:24] <PH0ENIX> although i can move around without lagging
#3184 [19:25] <mib_utu34w> run one?
#3185 [19:25] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: wait, so you have issues with digging blocks? hmm....
#3186 [19:25] <Coll> you might be near te spawn point
#3187 [19:25] <Coll> move farther out
#3188 [19:25] <mib_utu34w> run it?
#3189 [19:25] <PH0ENIX> yea Kealper, it acts like a lagging server
#3190 [19:26] <Kealper> mib_utu34w: i highly doubt someone is going to run one for you, minecraft servers are very resource-intensive
#3191 [19:26] <PH0ENIX> well it still disconnects
#3192 [19:26] <mib_utu34w> :(
#3193 [19:26] <Kealper> ??>> mib_utu34w smp/servers
#3194 [19:26] <mib_utu34w> smp
#3195 [19:26] <mib_utu34w> darnit!
#3196 [19:27] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: when trying to reconnect, it's doing the same thing for me as it did to you
#3197 [19:27] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: it may be that server
#3198 [19:27] <PH0ENIX> hmm
#3199 [19:27] <Kealper> mib_utu34w: did you see what VoxelHead told you?
#3200 [19:28] <mib_utu34w> no ones on that channel....
#3201 [19:28] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: are you using that beast of a machine for anything other than minecraft right now?
#3202 [19:28] <PH0ENIX> but it didnt lag for you the first time
#3203 [19:28] <PH0ENIX> no Kealper
#3204 [19:28] <stomper> xales: updating the driver worked PERFECTLY
#3205 [19:28] <Kealper> mib_utu34w: http://mcserverlist.net it would probably be easier for you to just find a public server to play on, if you are unable to host your own
#3206 [19:28] <PH0ENIX> its almost idle even with minecraft
#3207 [19:28] <xales> Kealper: 18:48:19 [QuakeNet] -!- meeb [meeb@IRC.POLICECOPS.drop.your.botnets.and.come.out.with.your.Q.up]
#3208 [19:29] <stomper> thank you so much for the help!
#3209 [19:29] <mib_utu34w> i guess not :( bye
#3210 [19:29] <PH0ENIX> 11% cpu 22% used memory
#3211 [19:29] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: well....i was just asking for what i was about to ask next lol
#3212 [19:29] <PH0ENIX> network usually sitting at 1k
#3213 [19:29] <PH0ENIX> sometimes it jumps to 70k
#3214 [19:30] <Kealper> so....ever tried linux?
#3215 [19:30] <PH0ENIX> thinking about it
#3216 [19:30] <PH0ENIX> i dont like it much
#3217 [19:30] <PH0ENIX> lol im way too familer with windows
#3218 [19:30] <Kealper> because it'd probably work fine under linux...linux tends to be much less fussy with sockets :/
#3219 [19:31] <aetherian> hehehe
#3220 [19:31] <PH0ENIX> i suppose i can install it tonight
#3221 [19:31] <aetherian> linux is awesome
#3222 [19:31] <PH0ENIX> see if that helps
#3223 [19:31] <aetherian> \o/
#3224 [19:31] <PH0ENIX> the joy of java, runs on anything
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#3226 [19:31] <PH0ENIX> aetherian you have a version reccomendation then?
#3227 [19:31] <PH0ENIX> i used to use suse
#3228 [19:31] <aetherian> PH0ENIX: for a server?
#3229 [19:32] <Kealper> and if you needed help with linux, many of the people in this channel either use it, or know how to use it
#3230 [19:32] <PH0ENIX> linux to install on it
#3231 [19:32] <xales> PH0ENIX: Probably Ubuntu server
#3232 [19:32] <aetherian> some terminal only version, that's for sure
#3233 [19:32] <aetherian> ubuntu server is nice
#3234 [19:32] <PH0ENIX> ive used ubuntu
#3235 [19:32] <aetherian> you could probably make a terminal only debian
#3236 [19:32] <PH0ENIX> free, or torrent?
#3237 [19:32] <Kealper> oh that reminds me
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#3239 [19:32] <Kealper> xales: i broke ubuntu 11.04
#3240 [19:32] <aetherian> PH0ENIX: those are both free
#3241 [19:32] <Deathconsuming> Got the error ingame
#3242 [19:32] <Kealper> well
#3243 [19:32] <PH0ENIX> why would i want terminal only?
#3244 [19:32] <aetherian> haha kells
#3245 [19:32] <Kealper> it broke itself
#3246 [19:32] <stomper> xales: updating the driver worked perfectly for us, thank you so much for the help
#3247 [19:32] <aetherian> PH0ENIX: faster :D
#3248 [19:33] <xales> stomper: no problem
#3249 [19:33] <Deathconsuming> Anyone know how to fix??
#3250 [19:33] <PH0ENIX> meh
#3251 [19:33] <PH0ENIX> <3 gui
#3252 [19:33] <xales> Deathconsuming: "the error"?
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#3254 [19:33] <aetherian> use LXDE then
#3255 [19:33] <Deathconsuming> http://pastebin.com/csJRxxUT
#3256 [19:33] <Deathconsuming> That
#3257 [19:33] <aetherian> or even something lighter
#3258 [19:33] <Deathconsuming> I keep getting it
#3259 [19:33] <aetherian> get server edition, then
#3260 [19:33] <sprocket> hey, can you make minecraft servers still ?
#3261 [19:33] <aetherian> sudo apt-get install lxde-core (iirc)
#3262 [19:33] <xales> sprocket: why wouldn't you be able to?
#3263 [19:33] <PH0ENIX> well am i really worried about resources? minecraft barely taps it
#3264 [19:34] <aetherian> if that doesn't work, look up whatever the lxde package is, lubuntu-desktop is too big
#3265 [19:34] <sprocket> idk i can't find where you dl the server xD
#3266 [19:34] <xales> Deathconsuming: on single player?
#3267 [19:34] <xales> sprocket: the same page you download the client
#3268 [19:34] <Deathconsuming> Multiplayer
#3269 [19:34] <sprocket> okay thanks !!!
#3270 [19:34] <xales> Deathconsuming: the server isn't able to connect to minecraft.net to verify your account
#3271 [19:34] <aetherian> but yeah, phoenix, don't run gnome. (or unity, for that matter)
#3272 [19:34] <Deathconsuming> So how do I fix that
#3273 [19:34] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: if you want my serious recommendation on a linux that won't be a total PITA to use, just install Ubuntu 10.10 on it...it'll have the fancy GUI, it'll be pretty much zero-setup crap, and it'll still work
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#3275 [19:35] <PH0ENIX> lol Kealper, thats what i like
#3276 [19:35] <aetherian> but kealper!
#3277 [19:35] <Thoatt> PH0ENIX: Run it gui-less though
#3278 [19:35] <xales> Deathconsuming: Are you running the server on your computer?
#3279 [19:35] <aetherian> that's a crummy gui!
#3280 [19:35] <Deathconsuming> On a different computer then the one I am playing on
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#3282 [19:35] <PH0ENIX> lol keep it up and ill get susi :-P
#3283 [19:35] <aetherian> use lxde at least, if you must have a nice gui
#3284 [19:35] <xales> What username are you logging in with?
#3285 [19:35] <aetherian> I used lxde for a while
#3286 [19:35] <Thoatt> and recompilethe kernel with sel :D
#3287 [19:36] <Deathconsuming> My offical minecraft one
#3288 [19:36] <xales> Deathconsuming: which is?
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#3290 [19:37] <aetherian> menuconfig ftw
#3291 [19:37] <xales> wat
#3292 [19:37] <xales> aetherian: menuconfig is a kernel configuration utility
#3293 [19:38] <xales> don't tell me you are custom compiling kernels now
#3294 [19:38] <xales> D:
#3295 [19:38] <Thoatt> aetherian: psh... doing it he old fashioned way with text files is waaay better :D
#3296 [19:38] <Deathconsuming> untouchablekill
#3297 [19:38] <GLaDOS> <rixius> [03:35:57] any reason why my client is crashing without a visible error when cmd+tabbing out of MC or when hitting esc to bring up menu ingame?
#3298 [19:38] <GLaDOS> *rand_op* gogogo
#3299 [19:38] <Thoatt> xales: 19:35:18 <+Thoatt> and recompilethe kernel with sel :D
#3300 [19:38] <Thoatt> lol
#3301 [19:38] <aetherian> xales: I know what it is
#3302 [19:38] <xales> wut
#3303 [19:38] <aetherian> I was commenting on thoatt
#3304 [19:38] <xales> oh, haha
#3305 [19:38] <aetherian> @_@_@
#3306 [19:38] <xales> Deathconsuming: can you connect to other servers?
#3307 [19:39] <xales> ??> rixius mac/reinst
#3308 [19:39] <VoxelHead> rixius: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3309 [19:39] <VoxelHead> rixius: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3310 [19:39] <GLaDOS> ew, mac.
#3311 [19:39] <GLaDOS> wait no
#3312 [19:39] <GLaDOS> is the new launcher for mac able to force reinstall?
#3313 [19:39] <Thoatt> cmd + tabbing...
#3314 [19:39] <xales> GLaDERP = mad
#3315 [19:39] <xales> and yes, it is, GLaDOS
#3316 [19:39] <xales> but that's still easier
#3317 [19:39] <xales> :P
#3318 [19:39] <GLaDOS> xales: then update i-
#3319 [19:39] <Thoatt> lol
#3320 [19:39] <GLaDOS> neh, neh
#3321 [19:39] <GLaDOS> maybe
#3322 [19:39] <rixius> I've wiped everything in ~/Library/Appliacation\ Support/ minecraft and let the client reload all of it
#3323 [19:40] <rixius> twice >_>
#3324 [19:40] <Deathconsuming> Yeah
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#3326 [19:40] <xales> rixius: what version of OSX?
#3327 [19:40] <Thoatt> naptime, forreal
#3328 [19:40] <Thoatt> /afk
#3329 [19:40] <rixius> latest... uh 10.6.3?
#3330 [19:40] <rixius> 10.6.6
#3331 [19:40] <GLaDOS> .g latest OSX
#3332 [19:40] <xales> Deathconsuming: Is there a firewall running on the server?
#3333 [19:40] <xales> rixius: I think 10.6.7 is the latest
#3334 [19:40] <GLaDOS> nope, ill have to stop being lazy
#3335 [19:40] <rixius> k will run update thanks
#3336 [19:41] <rixius> then completly reinstall client if I need to
#3337 [19:41] <rixius> hopefully to not be back in here laterz >_>
#3338 [19:43] <Deathconsuming> There shouldn't be
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#3340 [19:44] <GLaDOS> fun fact: attempting to unload a module in xchat ubuntu makes it troll hard
#3341 [19:44] <GLaDOS> lol a mibbit wannabe
#3342 [19:44] <xales> Deathconsuming: Can you browse to http://minecraft.net/ on the server?
#3343 [19:44] <Deathconsuming> Ya
#3344 [19:45] <Deathconsuming> Wtf? Now it just said "this server will now shutdown because of illegal use on minecaft"
#3345 [19:45] * aetherian sighs
#3345 [19:45] * GLaDOS derps
#3345 [19:45] <xales> O_o
#3346 [19:45] <GLaDOS> just browse to http://minecraft.net/
#3347 [19:46] <xales> I've never seen thatbefore
#3348 [19:46] <Blue> The see him trolling
#3349 [19:46] <GLaDOS> on where its hosted
#3350 [19:46] <GLaDOS> and tell me how many purchases there are atm
#3351 [19:47] <aetherian> 1798274
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#3354 [19:47] <GLaDOS> aetherian: coolstorybro
#3355 [19:47] <GLaDOS> not you
#3356 [19:47] <aetherian> what
#3357 [19:47] <slimer> hey ... when ever i start my server it comes up with "error outdated server" is there a new server?
#3358 [19:47] <Deathconsuming> Anyway back to my original issue, how do I fix it the massive http://pastebin.com/csJRxxUT error
#3359 [19:47] <FainanL> hey i have a question
#3360 [19:48] <GLaDOS> im asking Deathconsuming
#3361 [19:48] <aetherian> but it's true D:
#3362 [19:48] <GLaDOS> 17:25:08 [SEVERE] java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
#3363 [19:48] <GLaDOS> your internets derped when attempting to connect to minecraft.net
#3364 [19:48] <FainanL> minecraft online wont load because it cant recognize the digital signature, what do i do?
#3365 [19:48] <GLaDOS> its your internet's fault, not minecrafts
#3366 [19:48] <Deathconsuming> And it's my own computer
#3367 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> FainanL - Digital signature?
#3368 [19:49] <xales> FainanL: Check the date and time on your computer, especially the year
#3369 [19:49] <xales> err, wait
#3370 [19:49] <FainanL> its correct
#3371 [19:49] <AG_Scott> ntpdate kthx
#3372 [19:49] <xales> just ignore the error if it gives you the option
#3373 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Just accept it
#3374 [19:49] <GLaDOS> Deathconsuming: the server still connects to minecraft.net for validation of users
#3375 [19:49] <Deathconsuming> Well how do I remove the error?
#3376 [19:49] <xales> Deathconsuming: Go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc
#3377 [19:49] <GLaDOS> FainanL: just accept it
#3378 [19:49] <xales> open the 'hosts' file
#3379 [19:49] <GLaDOS> Deathconsuming: we can't help you there
#3380 [19:49] <xales> copy the contents of it to http://pastebin.com/
#3381 [19:49] <xales> and give us the link
#3382 [19:49] <GLaDOS> like i said, it's your web
#3383 [19:49] <xales> (open it with Notepad)
#3384 [19:49] <FainanL> i did and the screen turned all white
#3385 [19:50] <Deathconsuming> http://pastebin.com/e8r9Dgpk
#3386 [19:51] <xales> Deathconsuming: Is that the entire file?
#3387 [19:51] <Deathconsuming> Ya
#3388 [19:51] <GLaDOS> Deathconsuming: can you load minecraft.net and tell me how many registrations there are?
#3389 [19:52] <xales> FainanL: try a different browser
#3390 [19:52] <FainanL> ive tried opera chrome and firefox
#3391 [19:52] <FainanL> im on a mac
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#3393 [19:52] <xales> What version of OSX?
#3394 [19:52] <GLaDOS> Deathconsuming: can you load minecraft.net and tell me how many registrations there are?
#3395 [19:53] <FainanL> 10.6.6
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#3397 [19:53] <Deathconsuming> Ya sec
#3398 [19:54] <Deathconsuming> 6188660 registrations
#3399 [19:54] <Deathconsuming> is what i am seeing
#3400 [19:54] <aetherian> one of the best things about -- wait wha, that's a lot
#3401 [19:54] <GLaDOS> ok, you're not a damn pirate
#3402 [19:55] <Deathconsuming> Lol
#3403 [19:55] <Deathconsuming> I bought mine legit
#3404 [19:55] <Deathconsuming> :P
#3405 [19:55] <aetherian> anyway, one of the best things about running linux is having the best answer to the pc or mac war :)
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#3407 [19:55] <Deathconsuming> But all I want to do is fix that error. And I blame Wug xD
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#3409 [19:56] <Deathconsuming> But I need to fix it because it's like spamming the log
#3410 [19:57] <neviklink> heyo
#3411 [19:57] <xales> Deathconsuming: Make sure there isn't any firewall running at all
#3412 [19:57] <Deathconsuming> How do I do that?
#3413 [19:58] <xales> Uh..make sure there isn't any programs in the taskbar that would have a firewall part of them and that Windows Firewall is off
#3414 [19:58] <neviklink> wouldnt that be bad?
#3415 [19:58] <Deathconsuming> Fire turned off
#3416 [19:58] <Deathconsuming> Firewall
#3417 [19:58] <Deathconsuming> *
#3418 [19:59] <xales> neviklink: not really
#3419 [19:59] <xales> Deathconsuming: try running it on a different computer
#3420 [19:59] <xales> anyway
#3421 [19:59] * xales has to go eat, bbl
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#3422 [20:05] <Coll> yeah cause choosing a computer should be all about the pc and mac war aetherian
#3423 [20:06] <Deathconsuming> Anyway my current pc i am using to host didnt have any problems before, idk whats up
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#3425 [20:08] <aetherian> Coll: when did I say that
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#3427 [20:09] <aetherian> I merely implied that it is a common, and annoying, debate/petty argument (usually the latter)
#3428 [20:09] <Coll> mhm
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#3430 [20:10] <aetherian> I also said that, as I use linux, I can dominate the debate (actually an argument)
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#3433 [20:13] <aetherian> links2 is a nice web browser...
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#3435 [20:22] <nupanick> !check
#3436 [20:23] <nupanick> !check
#3437 [20:23] <nupanick> !check njl.student.rit.edu
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#3439 [20:24] <nupanick> !check iff.student.rit.edu
#3440 [20:24] <PH0ENIX> lol
#3441 [20:24] <nupanick> okay now I know damn well that HIS server runs just fine
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#3443 [20:24] <PH0ENIX> !check www.google.com
#3444 [20:24] <nupanick> my friend across the hall? I think his server's running now.
#3445 [20:25] <PH0ENIX> fail
#3446 [20:25] <xales> !check google.com:80
#3447 [20:25] <nupanick> HAH.
#3448 [20:25] <nupanick> I can connect to iff.student.rit.edu JUST FINE
#3449 [20:25] <nupanick> !check iff.student.rit.edu
#3450 [20:25] <aetherian> !chwck iff.student.rit.edu:80
#3451 [20:25] <nupanick> I AM CONNECTED TO IT RIGHT NOW
#3452 [20:25] <PH0ENIX> the dns?
#3453 [20:25] <aetherian> !check iff.student.rit.edu:80
#3454 [20:25] <aetherian> aww
#3455 [20:25] <PH0ENIX> im guessing its not translating
#3456 [20:25] <nupanick> oh
#3457 [20:25] <nupanick> huh
#3458 [20:26] <nupanick> I'll look it up
#3459 [20:26] <PH0ENIX> cant find the domain
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#3461 [20:30] <nupanick> okay well I know my friend's server works but AuBot isn't confirming it
#3462 [20:30] <nupanick> can someone try to connect to mine
#3463 [20:32] <PH0ENIX> yea
#3464 [20:32] <PH0ENIX> addy?
#3465 [20:33] * World is away: doing homework, probably back in 3.5 hrs
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#3466 [20:34] <ballsack> anyone found any fixes for server lag people have gotten?
#3467 [20:34] <World> !check wuggatron.student.rit.edu
#3468 [20:34] <World> ...?
#3469 [20:35] <PH0ENIX> it cant find the domain
#3470 [20:35] <World> its the domain im on, its this computer
#3471 [20:35] <World> !check wuggatron.student.rit.edu:80
#3472 [20:35] <PH0ENIX> then search the ip
#3473 [20:35] <PH0ENIX> or that
#3474 [20:35] <World> lol
#3475 [20:35] <PH0ENIX> lol
#3476 [20:35] <ballsack> can u turn down mobs on muliplayer from server? or is it just on and off options?
#3477 [20:35] <World> that's not my ip
#3478 [20:36] <World> im also on rit.edu, hence my sudden interest
#3479 [20:36] <PH0ENIX> fair enough
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#3481 [20:36] <World> !check 129.21.137.238:80
#3482 [20:36] <World> that's me
#3483 [20:37] <World> !check 129.21.137.238:25565
#3484 [20:37] <PH0ENIX> now i can hax0rz you
#3485 [20:37] <World> not surprising, mc server isnt running
#3486 [20:37] <World> if you can get past RIT's firewalls
#3487 [20:37] <PH0ENIX> whats rit anyway?
#3488 [20:37] <PH0ENIX> college im assuming?
#3489 [20:37] <World> (which, btw, mostly exist to protect the internet from us)
#3490 [20:37] <World> yes
#3491 [20:37] <PH0ENIX> which one?
#3492 [20:37] <World> www.rit.edu
#3493 [20:37] <ballsack> !check behind back for creeper
#3494 [20:37] <World> ^ that one
#3495 [20:38] <World> lol
#3496 [20:38] <PH0ENIX> ahh
#3497 [20:38] <World> brb doing homework
#3498 [20:38] <PH0ENIX> northerner
#3499 [20:38] <PH0ENIX> heard good things about the school though
#3500 [20:38] <World> im disconnecting, because otherwise I am going to fail deadlines for not one but 2 assignments
#3501 [20:38] <World> bye everyone
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#3507 [21:28] <aetherian> I get 110-140 fps on max graphics now :DDD
#3508 [21:31] <luckz> ok
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#3514 [21:58] <Fivezero> hi
#3515 [21:59] <aetherian> 'ello mat
#3516 [21:59] <aetherian> s/mat/mate
#3517 [22:00] <Fivezero> Would anyone happen to know why i have an insane amount of lag while connecting to my own mimecraft server from another computer in the same room while my friends have no problem?
#3518 [22:01] <aetherian> um
#3519 [22:01] <aetherian> is the computer you are connecting from old/cheap/etc
#3520 [22:01] <aetherian> and are your friends also on the same LAN as you?
#3521 [22:02] <Fivezero> Its new And no They are connecting from elsewhere
#3522 [22:02] <Fivezero> And the computer is not cheap :P
#3523 [22:02] <aetherian> the computer you are connecting from can play mc then, I assume, and I also assume you are using the internal ip to connect?
#3524 [22:03] <Fivezero> yes
#3525 [22:03] <aetherian> okay then
#3526 [22:05] <aetherian> uh
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#3529 [22:07] <aetherian> when you ping the server, do you get an okay time?
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#3533 [22:09] <Fivezero> I do When i first connect everything is fine.. then after about a minute later i'll start lagging bad to where i cant break/pick up blocks and if i restart i end up falling with no ground anywhere
#3534 [22:10] <aetherian> wuh oh
#3535 [22:10] <aetherian> this sounds like a job for
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#3537 [22:18] <Fivezero> for...?
#3538 [22:18] <aetherian> somebody more competent than me, of course.
#3539 [22:18] <Fivezero> x_x
#3540 [22:18] <Fivezero> lol ok
#3541 [22:18] * aetherian definitely wasn't waiting for you to ask in order to say that
#3541 [22:19] <Fivezero> i was rocking my rubicks cube waiting for an answer lol
#3542 [22:19] <aetherian> vox, help Fivezero
#3543 [22:19] <aetherian> vox D:<
#3544 [22:19] <aetherian> well, he seems busy, weird though that may be
#3545 [22:20] <Fivezero> lol ok
#3546 [22:20] <Fivezero> i shall Return at a later date
#3547 [22:22] <aetherian> blimey, I have like an open door from my mouth to my stomach
#3548 [22:22] <aetherian> just breathing will get air in there
#3549 [22:22] <aetherian> and it doesn't feel good ;_;
#3550 [22:23] <freaky[t]> can someone maybe help me with this problem: http://pastie.org/1755552 ? sometimes, when players die, they are unable to reconnect and their .dat file is corrupted.
#3551 [22:23] <freaky[t]> and they get disconnected after death
#3552 [22:24] <aetherian> running any mods?
#3553 [22:24] <aetherian> rather
#3554 [22:24] <aetherian> are you running the vanilla server?
#3555 [22:24] <freaky[t]> yes, essentials and ecoCreature
#3556 [22:24] <freaky[t]> it doesn't happen always so i can't really test it?
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#3558 [22:25] <aetherian> I can't really support anything to do with 3rd party server software, because I haven't the slightest knowledge of them
#3559 [22:25] <freaky[t]> ok :/ thanks
#3560 [22:28] <aetherian> nights in white satin...
#3561 [22:29] * mib_d7gysh [mib_d7gysh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3562 [22:29] <mib_d7gysh> my skin isnt working anymore for some reason
#3563 [22:29] <mib_d7gysh> i cant change it anymore
#3564 [22:29] <mib_d7gysh> stuck on default. any ideas?
#3565 [22:30] <aetherian> is there an error?
#3566 [22:30] <mib_d7gysh> no it just reverted to default skin
#3567 [22:31] <aetherian> on minecraft.net/skin (or wherever it may be) when you upload it, it seems to work fine until you restart minecraft.jar/exe, and your skin is then the same then?
#3568 [22:32] <mib_d7gysh> i cant change it anymore on /skin. I upload and nothing happens.
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#3570 [22:33] <aetherian> so you click choose file, go to whatever file it is, choose it, then click upload image. hmm.
#3571 [22:33] <bud> does anyone here know XML code?
#3572 [22:33] <aetherian> not I, monsieur
#3573 [22:33] <bud> ah kk...
#3574 [22:34] <bud> am working on my cousins compy, and I have an error message, a log actually of her trying to ping the internet, and an exact error in the cod
#3575 [22:34] <bud> code*
#3576 [22:34] <bud> was just wonderin if there was anyone here who could help
#3577 [22:34] <bud> vry wierd issue going on with her compy lol
#3578 [22:35] <aetherian> uh
#3579 [22:35] <aetherian> how the 'oody 'eck does one 'ping the internet'
#3580 [22:35] <bud> ok, what she is trying to do is connect to the internet at home
#3581 [22:35] <bud> she cannot, but can everywhere else
#3582 [22:35] <bud> but I can connect at her home
#3583 [22:35] <bud> and so can everyone else
#3584 [22:36] <aetherian> is it password encrypted?
#3585 [22:36] <bud> yes, by a keylock on the router, and I correctly entered that keylock
#3586 [22:36] <bud> and it went through
#3587 [22:36] <bud> but I got a timeout when the post connection started
#3588 [22:37] <aetherian> 'got a timeout'
#3589 [22:37] <bud> she made it through security scan one but on security scan two, was when she got that issue...
#3590 [22:37] <aetherian> santa came and gave it to you?
#3591 [22:37] <bud> lol sry,
#3592 [22:37] <bud> lemme pastebin the friendlyview of the log
#3593 [22:37] <aetherian> no sorry necessary, this is fun enough already
#3594 [22:37] <bud> ah kk :)
#3595 [22:38] <bud> http://mibpaste.com/BtNVdI
#3596 [22:39] <aetherian> .-. mibpaste
#3597 [22:39] <aetherian> why do people even use that
#3598 [22:39] <bud> ooh wrong thing to use?
#3599 [22:39] <aetherian> it's not the best paste thing out there
#3600 [22:39] <bud> oooh kk
#3601 [22:40] <bud> the error, is a notepad file, I transferred the error log over to my compy via notepad and put it into my email
#3602 [22:40] <bud> doesn't that seem like a strange error though?
#3603 [22:41] <bud> only thing I can think is that between her computer and the router, there is a ROS protocol somewhere
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#3605 [23:09] <Deathconsuming> Why is it that I can not connect/login on my client?
#3606 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> What's the error?
#3607 [23:10] <Deathconsuming> Can't connect to minecraft.net
#3608 [23:10] <Deathconsuming> and my server isn't letting anyone connect
#3609 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Weren't you here before with that issue?
#3610 [23:11] <Deathconsuming> lol it was fixed...but wug made it so the ip didn't change and well i don't think it worked
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#3612 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. Are you using the username with the exclaimation in it?
#3613 [23:11] <Deathconsuming> ...?
#3614 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> The exclaimation point (!)
#3615 [23:12] <Deathconsuming> <--- still doesn't understand
#3616 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username have a (!) in it?
#3617 [23:12] <Deathconsuming> No
#3618 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry, I have you confused with somebody else that Wug helped then
#3619 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Did you make sure your time and date are all correct?
#3620 [23:13] <Deathconsuming> Yeah they are correct
#3621 [23:14] <Deathconsuming> Wug made it so that IP didn't change but I think thats whats fucking my server up
#3622 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> I'm still on the issue of why your client isn't connecting to minecraft.net
#3623 [23:16] <Deathconsuming> Well it is saying logging in but its been like that for the past 5 minutes
#3624 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> How are you connecting to your server?
#3625 [23:17] <Deathconsuming> I can't get past the login screen on my client =_=
#3626 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Could I have a look via Teamviewer?
#3627 [23:19] <Deathconsuming> lol it let me in, i think it was down for me
#3628 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Hah, okay
#3629 [23:19] <Deathconsuming> Bur back to my server issue >_>
#3630 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Alright.. could I get a look?
#3631 [23:19] <Deathconsuming> Yeah
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#3633 [23:27] <Fausterion> hey peeps
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#3635 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3636 [23:31] <Fausterion> hi
#3637 [23:31] <Fausterion> question
#3638 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> answer.
#3639 [23:31] <Fausterion> i need to upgrade
#3640 [23:31] <Fausterion> my server
#3641 [23:31] <Fausterion> too laggy
#3642 [23:31] <Fausterion> but i want to know what ot focus on
#3643 [23:31] <Fausterion> its a 12 man
#3644 [23:31] <Fausterion> 512 mg ram
#3645 [23:31] <Fausterion> 1 gb virtual
#3646 [23:31] <Fausterion> vps
#3647 [23:31] <oldtopman> RAM
#3648 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Oh god, that would be the first issue
#3649 [23:32] <oldtopman> You need at least 1GB
#3650 [23:32] <Fausterion> upload is 170kbps
#3651 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> I'd say more like a gig and a half for 12..
#3652 [23:32] <Fausterion> well we aren't hitting the full limit
#3653 [23:32] <Fausterion> oh really
#3654 [23:32] <Fausterion> ok
#3655 [23:32] <oldtopman> I can handle 4 people with 100knit upload
#3656 [23:32] <oldtopman> kbit*
#3657 [23:32] <Fausterion> ok
#3658 [23:32] <Fausterion> we're at 12
#3659 [23:32] <Fausterion> with 170 tops
#3660 [23:32] <oldtopman> 1GB ram should last you 5 people
#3661 [23:33] <oldtopman> http://www.canihostaminecraftserver.com/
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#3663 [23:34] <Fausterion> well
#3664 [23:34] <Fausterion> according to that site
#3665 [23:34] <Fausterion> even if i had 4gb of ram
#3666 [23:34] <Fausterion> i could only host 3
#3667 [23:34] <Fausterion> lol
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#3669 [23:34] <bud> GreyVulpine: do you know anything about XML code?
#3670 [23:34] <Fausterion> given my upload rate
#3671 [23:34] <Fausterion> thanks for the info guys
#3672 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Not much bud
#3673 [23:35] <bud> ah kk
#3674 [23:36] <bud> my cousin is having an issue with her compy, where she can connect to the internet everywhere else, except home, but anyone else can connect to her router just fine
#3675 [23:36] <bud> whenever she tries at home, she times out, but not when she's everywhere else
#3676 [23:36] <bud> and I connect fine at her house with mine
#3677 [23:37] <oldtopman> bud: Is she using her external IP when she's at home?
#3678 [23:37] <oldtopman> If so, that is her problem
#3679 [23:37] <bud> we are just trying to connect via wireless
#3680 [23:39] <bud> http://mibpaste.com/ttLi0n
#3681 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> What.. is that from?
#3682 [23:39] <bud> this is the friendly view version of her connection log
#3683 [23:39] <bud> I copied it to notepad and transferred it to my computer
#3684 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#3685 [23:40] <bud> the connection log, has two views, XML and Friendly
#3686 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> is this from Window's Event viewer?
#3687 [23:40] <bud> yes, sry shoulda said that
#3688 [23:40] * bud is a noob lol
#3688 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Ahh, that makes more sense
#3689 [23:40] * GreyVulpine takes another look
#3689 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> How is your wireless network secured? WPA? WEP? WPA2?
#3690 [23:41] <bud> TKIP
#3691 [23:42] <bud> we don't use a pin to connect at her house, we use the TKIP KEY
#3692 [23:42] <bud> that is on the label under the router
#3693 [23:42] <aetherian> :o
#3694 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
#3695 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> I'd have her look at her wireless settings again, make sure the WPA/TKIP key hasn't changed.
#3696 [23:43] <bud> well, I wouldn't think it would have, because I was there tonight with my computer and connected just fine
#3697 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Also if you can, reconfirm the key in the router's settings
#3698 [23:44] <bud> and the wierdest part, is I can connect with her computer here, because I brought it home and have it connected beside me
#3699 [23:44] <bud> its just something is timing out her connection when she is at home
#3700 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> This is either an issue with the router, or her computer's network security settings.
#3701 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps a key got screwed up somehow when trying to connect to her network
#3702 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> or a setting somewhere
#3703 [23:45] <bud> ah ok, how would I get in to look at her security settings?
#3704 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> I mean, the easiest way is to delete the connection in the computer pointing to her home's connection
#3705 [23:45] <bud> well, I wiped her hard drive, did a full restore on it... hoping that would fix the issue, but nothing happened
#3706 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Then have her retype it in at her house, making a fresh, new connection
#3707 [23:46] <bud> ah kk
#3708 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> If it's not that, then I'd move on, looking into updating her NIC
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#3710 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> er, NIC drivers
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#3713 [23:47] <bud> ah ok.. one question.. is it possible for a wifi company to issue ROS to only one computer that tries to enter a network?
#3714 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> ROS?
#3715 [23:47] <Wug> grah
#3716 [23:47] <bud> Refusal Of Service
#3717 [23:47] * Wug > assembly language
#3717 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> wifi.. company?
#3718 [23:47] <Wug> umm, they could block your mac address
#3719 [23:47] <bud> Internet Company*
#3720 [23:47] <Wug> probably
#3721 [23:47] <Wug> but why would they
#3722 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> It's possible.. to ensure that only one computer is accessing the modem, they used to do that.
#3723 [23:48] <bud> ah ok
#3724 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> But sense routers, and NAT are commonplace, it's not
#3725 [23:48] <RF> And thus the home users learnt NAT
#3726 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> since*
#3727 [23:48] <RF> heh
#3728 [23:49] <bud> ya, and I connected at her home, and she had her PC connected there, but her notebook is the only one going through this
#3729 [23:49] <DopeGhoti> Some ISPs actually provision the PC (or router's) MAC address
#3730 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> I'd have her remake the connection from scratch on her machine, re-type in the authentication key. If that doesn't do it, update the NIC drivers, then look into updating the router's firmware
#3731 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> WPA is an authentication protocol that's showing its age..
#3732 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> Many consumers have moved onto WPA2.
#3733 [23:50] <bud> ok... I will have to start with step two, because I remade the connection six times over there
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#3735 [23:50] <bud> and that didn't work
#3736 [23:50] <bud> :/
#3737 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> WEP's breakable in seconds, WPA's not that far behind.
#3738 [23:51] <DopeGhoti> Oh come on
#3739 [23:51] <Wug> wpas are harder if you make a good one
#3740 [23:51] <DopeGhoti> WPA takes at least minutes.
#3741 [23:52] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: If you want security, wireless ain't it.
#3742 [23:52] <Wug> wpa2 is better
#3743 [23:52] <Wug> but they're all useless if you catch the handshake
#3744 [23:52] <Wug> except for wep, which is useless anywho
#3745 [23:55] <bud> where would I go to find the NIC drivers to see if they are up to date?
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#3747 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> bud - probably the device manager in windows' your best bet.
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