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#9 [00:53] <Phenex> "Connection Lost, End of Stream" means?
#10 [00:53] <xales> Many things. Just try reconnecting
#11 [00:53] <Phenex> Happens every 5 - 10 minutes
#12 [00:53] <xales> It's a known issue, nothing you can easily do about it
#13 [00:54] <Phenex> Not doing the respawning blocks anymore though
#14 [00:54] <Phenex> OKay
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#16 [01:03] <Thoatt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i-nMWgBUp0
#17 [01:04] <Thoatt> Valve: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
#18 [01:23] * Thoatt trys out a newer debian
#18 [01:23] <Thoatt> *sigh* 8 dvds... lol
#19 [01:24] <xales> wut
#20 [01:24] <Thoatt> full debian 6 is 8 dvds
#21 [01:24] <Thoatt> or 53 CDs... whichever you want to download
#22 [01:24] <Thoatt> 52**
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#26 [01:43] <World> is it normal that I spend more time here than in #minecraft because the conversations are usually more interesting
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#28 [01:48] <ScribbleJR> anyone know where i can find the minecraft beta 1.3?
#29 [01:48] <Thoatt> No.
#30 [01:48] <ScribbleJR> :(
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#32 [01:48] <xales> ScribbleJR: You can't
#33 [01:48] <ScribbleJR> darn why not
#34 [01:49] <xales> It's not legal, unless you already have your own backed up copy of it
#35 [01:49] <ScribbleJR> hows it not legal, u still have to login to minecraft , downloaded on minecraft,net or not
#36 [01:49] <Thoatt> You can't download it from minecraft.net, which is why it'd be illegal.
#37 [01:49] <World> its against the tos
#38 [01:50] <xales> The one major rule
#39 [01:50] <xales> Do not distribute anything I've made. This includes the client and the server software for the game. This also includes modified versions of anything I've made.
#40 [01:50] <ScribbleJR> :(
#41 [01:50] <xales> In order to maintain control of the project, I need all game downloads to come from a single central source. I hope you understand.
#42 [01:51] <ScribbleJR> well notch shoukld atleast have past updates on the site to download
#43 [01:51] <xales> No, he really shouldn't
#44 [01:51] <ScribbleJR> why not
#45 [01:51] <World> it would be all sorts of convenient if he did
#46 [01:51] <Thoatt> lol
#47 [01:51] <World> but it's probably better that everyone be on the same version
#48 [01:51] <xales> It just makes piracy easier, and there is no legitimate need for an older version
#49 [01:51] <xales> Mods = not legitimate need
#50 [01:51] <Thoatt> ^
#51 [01:52] <ScribbleJR> wat if someones pc couldnt handle an update(ie graphics update)
#52 [01:53] <xales> Then they should turn off the new graphic options
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#54 [01:53] <xales> ._.
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#56 [01:53] <Thoatt> exactly lol
#57 [01:53] <World> ?? tos
#58 [01:54] <World> ?? eula
#59 [01:54] <World> xales, update voxelhead
#60 [01:54] <Thoatt> lol
#61 [01:55] <World> that question gets asked far too often, it would be great if we could just ?? tos and make vox answer
#62 [01:55] <xales> um
#63 [01:55] <xales> write what it should say and I will add it
#64 [01:56] <World> hang on, lemme copy stuff off the website
#65 [01:56] <Thoatt> lol
#66 [01:56] <AG_Scott> IF you actually want an old release, just google it.
#67 [01:56] <AG_Scott> Mojang actually lets us host the last release.
#68 [01:57] <World> xales, that 'the one major rule' text would be good
#69 [01:57] <World> maybe with a link to http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp
#70 [01:58] <World> ?? wtf
#71 [01:58] <AG_Scott> With that being said, there is a legitimate use to previous releases.
#72 [01:58] <xales> ??+ tos|http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp - The one major rule: Do not distribute anything I've made. This includes the client and the server software for the game.;;This also includes modified versions of anything I've made. In order to maintain control of the project, I need all game downloads to come from a single central source. I hope you understand.
#73 [01:58] <xales> ?? tos
#74 [01:58] <VoxelHead> tos: http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp - The one major rule: Do not distribute anything I've made. This includes the client and the server software for the game.
#75 [01:58] <VoxelHead> tos: This also includes modified versions of anything I've made. In order to maintain control of the project, I need all game downloads to come from a single central source. I hope you understand.
#76 [01:58] <xales> Happy?
#77 [01:58] <Thoatt> Very
#78 [01:58] <World> ??+ wtf|wtf to you too!
#79 [01:58] <Thoatt> danke :D
#80 [01:59] <World> awww
#81 [01:59] <Thoatt> phail
#82 [01:59] <Thoatt> lol
#83 [01:59] <World> it won't let me add stuff
#84 [01:59] <World> yeah xales, that's better
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#92 [02:29] <Thoatt> Hoekay... time to pimp this debian
#93 [02:29] * Thoatt downloads latest stable kernel
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#98 [02:41] <jDodson99> Why does Minecraft freeze when I close it? It seems to freeze for longer periods of time when it's fullscreen. (I'm on a mac—10.5.8—if that matters)
#99 [02:41] <Thoatt> It happens to a few people using Mac.
#100 [02:41] <Thoatt> You aren't the only person with that problem :/
#101 [02:42] <Thoatt> AFAIK it hasn't been fixed.
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#103 [02:56] <World> as long as you don't lose data, I'd not worry about it
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#115 [03:33] <BartonAbuse> I can't get minecraft to play on my linux machine. all I get is this message cbone@PleasureDen ~/Downloads $ ./minecraft.jar
#116 [03:33] <BartonAbuse> bash: ./minecraft.jar: cannot execute binary file
#117 [03:34] <World> you need to run it with java
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#119 [03:34] <World> so use "java -jar ./minecraft.jar
#120 [03:35] <BartonAbuse> thankies
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#124 [03:47] <Thoatt> hmmm...
#125 [03:47] <Thoatt> I think I finally have all the settings I want..
#126 [03:48] <Thoatt> time to make this now :D
#127 [03:48] <NotiCon> gl
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#129 [03:51] <Thoatt> I just hope it doesn't take /too/ long... (that's what she said)
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#134 [03:56] <cbreaker> Hey GreyVulpine
#135 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> uh-oh
#136 [03:56] <cbreaker> ha
#137 [03:57] <cbreaker> well sorry I cut off on you yesterday night
#138 [03:57] <cbreaker> turns our when I turned on the port forwarding my internet stopped working
#139 [03:57] <cbreaker> out*
#140 [03:57] <Thoatt> fail lol
#141 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> Huh..
#142 [03:57] <cbreaker> durp
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#144 [03:58] <cbreaker> I'm guessing it was a case of 'doin it wrong'
#145 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> Is it working now?
#146 [03:59] <cbreaker> when I turn off port forwarding
#147 [04:02] <cbreaker> let me upload a pic
#148 [04:03] <cbreaker> http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i410/cbreaker/minecraft.jpg
#149 [04:03] <cbreaker> When I check it on my connection will almost immediately drop
#150 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> And your server's IP address is 192.168.0.100?
#151 [04:06] <cbreaker> That's what it said when you told me to use my Ipv4 address, right
#152 [04:06] <Thoatt> my CDO does not like you using a port range for a single port >.>
#153 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> Right... hmm
#154 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> I don't see anything there that might indicate why your connection fails when you check that box
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#156 [04:07] <Thoatt> try without the range, jsut the single port.
#157 [04:07] <Thoatt> just*
#158 [04:07] <cbreaker> 'aight
#159 [04:08] <cbreaker> Cool, I haven't dropped
#160 [04:08] <Thoatt> /yet/
#161 [04:09] <cbreaker> It would have dropped by now
#162 [04:09] <Thoatt> lol
#163 [04:09] * Thoatt thinks about ordering an arduino
#163 [04:10] <cbreaker> How can I test to see if my server is up? Open up minecraft and put localhost for the name?
#164 [04:11] <Thoatt> yep
#165 [04:11] <Thoatt> !check 74.50.128.119
#166 [04:12] <World> !check wuggatron.student.rit.edu:80
#167 [04:13] <Thoatt> Stuff.
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#169 [04:15] <World> babbys
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#171 [04:22] <Thoatt> You bored? lol
#172 [04:22] <World> hex having fun in another channel
#173 [04:23] <World> hes*
#174 [04:23] <Thoatt> ahh
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#176 [04:33] <cbreaker> everything seems to be fine, thanks for your help greyvulpine and thoatt
#177 [04:33] <Thoatt> yw I guess
#178 [04:33] <Thoatt> lol
#179 [04:34] * Thoatt goes back to watching linux compile.
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#181 [04:39] <NotiCon> Thoatt: uh the joy of compiling the kernel?
#182 [04:39] <Thoatt> yep
#183 [04:39] <Thoatt> fun stuff
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#188 [05:11] <bitstream> Hello
#189 [05:11] <bitstream> I'm sure you get this a lot, but I'm on a mac, just downloaded minceraft and it doesn't run at all. I see people have this problem, but I couldn't find the solution. Anyone can help?
#190 [05:12] <xales> What exactly happens when you try to run it?
#191 [05:12] <Thoatt> Do you have java installed?
#192 [05:12] <xales> Thoatt: Macs come with Java
#193 [05:12] <bitstream> I do, it is the latest possible version
#194 [05:12] <bitstream> I have checked
#195 [05:12] <Thoatt> xales: you can uninstall it...
#196 [05:12] <bitstream> So when I run it
#197 [05:12] <xales> Thoatt: Nope
#198 [05:12] <Thoatt> xales: yep lol
#199 [05:12] <xales> Nope
#200 [05:12] <bitstream> The icon just flashes for a split second in the doc
#201 [05:12] <bitstream> *dock
#202 [05:12] <xales> ??> bitstream mac/permissions
#203 [05:12] <VoxelHead> bitstream: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#204 [05:12] <VoxelHead> bitstream: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#205 [05:13] <bitstream> hmm
#206 [05:13] <bitstream> yeah, I will try that
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#208 [05:14] <bitstream> fuck me!
#209 [05:14] <bitstream> It works!
#210 [05:14] <bitstream> haha
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#212 [05:14] <blaphmat> I get an error when im trying to connect to a server: Connection timed out:connect im going trougt a proxy hotspot why is this happening
#213 [05:14] <Wug> we've seen all sorts of problems
#214 [05:14] <bitstream> btw there are so many topics in the official forums, people having the same problem
#215 [05:14] <NotiCon> the proxy could be blocking the port?
#216 [05:14] <bitstream> and no answer
#217 [05:15] <blaphmat> k
#218 [05:15] <bitstream> Thank you very much people
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#220 [05:15] <blaphmat> but its working for my friends..
#221 [05:15] <Wug> they're also running through the proxy?
#222 [05:15] <blaphmat> yes
#223 [05:15] <blaphmat> we´re in schoool
#224 [05:16] <Wug> no idea
#225 [05:16] <Wug> try a different computer
#226 [05:16] <blaphmat> i got my school cp
#227 [05:16] <blaphmat> all of us got the same cp
#228 [05:16] <Wug> umm
#229 [05:17] <Thoatt> wut? lol
#230 [05:17] <blaphmat> but it´s not working for mee.. sooooo irritating
#231 [05:17] <Wug> you sure you're using the right server?
#232 [05:17] <Wug> did you get the url right
#233 [05:17] <Thoatt> finally compiled...
#234 [05:17] <blaphmat> yes
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#236 [05:17] <Thoatt> time to make the modules
#237 [05:18] <NotiCon> blaphmat: if you are on the schools network then you shouldnt be able to connect outside of it because of the proxy as it most likely have blocked the port
#238 [05:18] <NotiCon> however you can setup one minecraft server local where others can connect to it if they are on the schools network
#239 [05:18] <Wug> consider the possibility that you are at school to learn, not play minecraft
#240 [05:18] <xales> *most likely
#241 [05:18] <blaphmat> But its working for my friends..??
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#243 [05:19] <mib_qd1je0> Hi >_> is there any admins or what have you around?
#244 [05:19] <Wug> admins of what
#245 [05:19] <Thoatt> Wug: BLASPHEMY! School isn't for learnin'!
#246 [05:19] <mib_qd1je0> minecraft of course
#247 [05:19] <Wug> most of us are admins of something
#248 [05:19] <blaphmat> possibility=0
#249 [05:19] <Thoatt> we're all admins of our own minds! :D
#250 [05:19] <Wug> you mean mojang staff?
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#252 [05:19] <blaphmat> its foooorrrr playing minecraft :DDD
#253 [05:19] <Thoatt> (sans mentals)
#254 [05:20] <mib_qd1je0> yeah mojang staff
#255 [05:20] <Wug> mollstam's here
#256 [05:20] <Wug> why do you need them
#257 [05:20] <Thoatt> mib_qd1je0: What do you need?
#258 [05:20] <mib_qd1je0> because I'm trying to buy minecraft but can't buy it through paypal....its not working for me
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#260 [05:21] <Thoatt> What part isn't working?
#261 [05:21] <mib_qd1je0> well I've got a bank account linked to my paypal but it wont let me choose that as an option it only says link a cc or debit card to my paypal to use that
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#263 [05:21] <velimies> hellop
#264 [05:21] <xales> mib_qd1je0: That's a Paypal problem
#265 [05:22] <xales> not something Mojang can help with
#266 [05:22] <mib_qd1je0> its not because i just called them
#267 [05:22] <mib_qd1je0> they said its the sellers issue
#268 [05:22] <xales> Then they are incorrect
#269 [05:22] <velimies> can some1 help with me? i tried to buy the game and it wont let me...
#270 [05:22] <Wug> lol paypal u so silly
#271 [05:22] <mib_qd1je0> they can't be incorrect lol I spoke to them as I tried to buy it even...they say everything's working fine with my account
#272 [05:22] <velimies> using visa...
#273 [05:22] <xales> velimies: Is it a prepaid card?
#274 [05:23] <Thoatt> velimies: Add the card to a paypal account.
#275 [05:23] <Wug> think of the ludicrousness of the following statement:
#276 [05:23] <velimies> ok
#277 [05:23] <velimies> i will add...
#278 [05:23] <velimies> :D
#279 [05:23] <Thoatt> prepaid visa's don't like to work correctly for buying certain things.
#280 [05:23] <Wug> it's mojang's fault that paypal won't accept a bank account
#281 [05:23] <velimies> what about alertpay?
#282 [05:23] <Thoatt> also prepaid visa giftcards as well.
#283 [05:23] <velimies> and what is prepaid vis?
#284 [05:23] <velimies> visa
#285 [05:23] <Thoatt> Wug: Exactly...
#286 [05:23] <mib_qd1je0> thats what I was wondering is it set up to not allow use of bank accounts?
#287 [05:24] <xales> velimies: You cannot buy Minecraft with alertpay, and a prepaid Visa only has a ceratain amount
#288 [05:24] <velimies> is it same as visa electron?
#289 [05:24] <xales> mib_qd1je0: You cannot use an E-Check, I believe
#290 [05:24] <velimies> oh well i dont have prepaid one...
#291 [05:24] <Thoatt> mib_qd1je0: Paypal handles where the money comes from. It has nothing to do with Mojang.
#292 [05:24] <xales> mib_qd1je0: Just transfer it as Paypal Funds and use it like that
#293 [05:24] <mib_qd1je0> I'm assuming thats what its called when you use bank account thats linked to paypal?
#294 [05:24] <Wug> well I'm leaving
#295 [05:24] <xales> If it draws from the bank account, yes
#296 [05:24] <Thoatt> mib_qd1je0: It doesn't matter.
#297 [05:24] <velimies> hmm...
#298 [05:24] <mib_qd1je0> so I'll need to add money to my paypal account to purchase the game?
#299 [05:24] <xales> Yes
#300 [05:24] <Thoatt> yes.
#301 [05:25] <Wug> because I'm dying of sleep and food deprivation
#302 [05:25] <Wug> and I need a shower.
#303 [05:25] <mib_qd1je0> alrighty thanks....was going nuts :( I really wanted to buy it lol
#304 [05:25] <velimies> it say me about authentication problem when i try to buy...
#305 [05:25] <xales> velimies: Use Paypal
#306 [05:25] <Wug> I'll be back sometime
#307 [05:25] <velimies> why if i dont have the prepaid it should work...
#308 [05:25] <xales> A Visa Electron will not work with the normal credit card option
#309 [05:25] <xales> You must use Paypal
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#311 [05:26] <velimies> -,-
#312 [05:26] * Thoatt makes module_install :D
#312 [05:26] <velimies> isnt that kinda stupid?
#313 [05:26] <Thoatt> No.
#314 [05:26] <Thoatt> Why is it stupid? lol
#315 [05:26] <xales> It is because of how Visa Electron works
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#317 [05:28] <velimies> hmm...
#318 [05:29] <Thoatt> wewt! here goes :D
#319 [05:29] <blaphmat> :(
#320 [05:30] <velimies> ok now i did paypal and sending money to there :) then i am gonna buy the game in about 2-3 days :P
#321 [05:30] <velimies> yayayayayayaa ^_^
#322 [05:31] <Thoatt> 2-3 days?
#323 [05:31] <Thoatt> wat?
#324 [05:31] <Thoatt> lol
#325 [05:31] <Thoatt> nvm
#326 [05:31] <velimies> it takes 2-3 days to transfer -.-
#327 [05:31] <Thoatt> ...
#328 [05:31] <Thoatt> Uhmm... no it doesn't...
#329 [05:31] <Thoatt> It's instant from card -? paypal
#330 [05:31] <velimies> yes it das -,-
#331 [05:31] <Thoatt> ->*
#332 [05:32] <Thoatt> paypal -> bank is 3-4 days iirc.. but card -> paypal should be instant.
#333 [05:32] <velimies> Your money will be in your PayPal account in 2-3 business days. We don't charge you any fees for this transfer.
#334 [05:32] <velimies> it says...
#335 [05:32] <Thoatt> ...
#336 [05:32] <Thoatt> that's hella dumb.
#337 [05:33] <velimies> ...
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#339 [05:35] <velimies> any1 from finland i need help...
#340 [05:35] <velimies> ?
#341 [05:35] <xales> with what?
#342 [05:35] <Thoatt> Staying warm, if I had to guess.
#343 [05:35] <velimies> umm i dont know what things to copy when i try to send money from op bank to my paypal...
#344 [05:36] <blaphmat> neppp sverige
#345 [05:36] <xales> Why are you using a bank account?
#346 [05:36] <xales> Just use the Visa card
#347 [05:36] <Thoatt> xales: to transfer money to his paypal...
#348 [05:36] <velimies> noob -,-
#349 [05:36] <xales> Thoatt: Visa card.
#350 [05:36] <xales> herp derp
#351 [05:37] <velimies> dumb...
#352 [05:37] <xales> I'm pretty sure you can't transfer money from a credit card to Paypal
#353 [05:37] <xales> I've tried to.
#354 [05:37] <Thoatt> xales: He jsut said bank to paypal lol
#355 [05:37] <Thoatt> just*
#356 [05:37] <xales> but whatever
#357 [05:37] <xales> it's 5am
#358 [05:37] <Thoatt> let him try lol
#359 [05:37] <xales> I have no idea what is going on
#360 [05:37] <Thoatt> hwhwha? lol
#361 [05:38] <Thoatt> /professor Farnsworth
#362 [05:39] <velimies> omfg -.-
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#364 [05:41] <velimies> now i cant send money to my paypal because it has to my own credit card...
#365 [05:41] <xales> Don't send money
#366 [05:41] <xales> Just pay with the credit card
#367 [05:41] <xales> ...
#368 [05:41] <Thoatt> velimies: Did you add the card... to the paypal account?
#369 [05:41] <velimies> it wont work moron!!!
#370 [05:42] <blaphmat> you van be a moron
#371 [05:42] <velimies> well i was meant to send from my moms credit card....
#372 [05:42] <Thoatt> velimies: He's op, I wouldn't insult him.
#373 [05:42] <Thoatt> We are trying to help...
#374 [05:42] <velimies> well i know but he aint helping me.. u are but not him...
#375 [05:42] <xales> velimies: Go to the 'Buy Now' page on minecraft.net
#376 [05:42] <xales> Click 'pay with paypal'
#377 [05:42] <xales> it will ask you for the credit card info
#378 [05:42] <xales> type it in
#379 [05:42] <xales> click pay
#380 [05:42] <xales> ._.
#381 [05:42] <blaphmat> then lick xales cook
#382 [05:43] <velimies> it wotn let!!!!
#383 [05:43] <xales> and why won't it?
#384 [05:43] <velimies> thats the fucking problem -.-
#385 [05:43] <Thoatt> velimies: Is this YOUR card?
#386 [05:43] <velimies> wait...
#387 [05:43] <velimies> well i cant buy anything with my card online...
#388 [05:43] <blaphmat> u got visa??
#389 [05:43] <Thoatt> If the card is associated with another paypal, you can't use the paypal creditcard checkout.
#390 [05:44] <velimies> yeah but... i cant buy anything with it from internet
#391 [05:44] <velimies> it differs from my mother's visa...
#392 [05:44] <xales> Then why are you even bothering to try it?
#393 [05:44] <Thoatt> velimies: What kind of card is it exactly?
#394 [05:45] <velimies> my is visa electron and my mom is too...
#395 [05:45] <xales> okay then
#396 [05:45] <xales> type in your MOMS CARD info
#397 [05:45] <velimies> and xales ... i cant use my paypal because no money on there...
#398 [05:45] <velimies> and cant send -,-
#399 [05:45] <xales> You use Paypal to pay with the credit card
#400 [05:45] <velimies> I FUCKING TRIED IT!!!
#401 [05:45] <xales> As I have said
#402 [05:45] <xales> And what happened when you did?
#403 [05:45] <Thoatt> velimies:
#404 [05:46] <xales> What EXACTLY did it say
#405 [05:46] <Thoatt> What does it say when you try it?
#406 [05:46] <velimies> it went to that inter bank think and i logged in
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#408 [05:46] <xales> Then you clicked on the wrong option
#409 [05:46] <velimies> and agreed the payment... and then it says authentication problem -,-
#410 [05:46] <xales> Did it say that with PayPal?
#411 [05:46] <Thoatt> ok listen carefully velimies
#412 [05:46] <Thoatt> Is the card associated with an existing paypal account.
#413 [05:46] <Thoatt> ?*
#414 [05:47] <xales> actually, whatever
#415 [05:47] <xales> I'm going to bed
#416 [05:47] <xales> have fun, Thoatt
#417 [05:47] <xales> :P
#418 [05:47] <blaphmat> nnoooo
#419 [05:47] <velimies> This credit card has been denied by the bank that issued your credit card. For details on why your card was denied, please contact your credit card issuer's customer service department. Or, you may want to try adding a different credit card.
#420 [05:47] <blaphmat> its fuckin 12 on the day
#421 [05:47] <velimies> well now i have to do another fucking paypal account...
#422 [05:47] <velimies> -,-
#423 [05:47] <mib_ne9pa3> Then the card is denied...
#424 [05:47] <Thoatt> Then velimies It's an issue with the card.
#425 [05:47] <velimies> for my mom...
#426 [05:48] <Thoatt> no velimies it won't work.
#427 [05:48] <mib_ne9pa3> Go talk to your bank.
#428 [05:48] <velimies> yes it does...
#429 [05:48] <blaphmat> hate these m9
#430 [05:48] <Thoatt> .. what do you mean it does... You've been getting error messages that says it doesn't...
#431 [05:49] <velimies> well u see... i registered with my name on it...
#432 [05:49] <velimies> so i need to use my visa...
#433 [05:49] <Thoatt> your BANK is denying the funds.. it's not paypal's (OR MOJANGS) problem.
#434 [05:49] <velimies> and cant use that on net...
#435 [05:49] * fogWraith [fogWraith@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#436 [05:49] <xales> You don't have to keep creating accounts
#437 [05:49] <velimies> so i need to do another paypal with my mom name on it...
#438 [05:49] <xales> As I have said
#439 [05:49] <xales> Go to the minecraft.net website
#440 [05:49] <xales> go to the buy page
#441 [05:49] <xales> click 'Buy with Paypal'
#442 [05:50] <xales> then you put the credit card there
#443 [05:50] <velimies> and then ?
#444 [05:50] <blaphmat> or just buy another fucking game
#445 [05:50] <xales> And then what?
#446 [05:50] <xales> You click 'Buy"
#447 [05:50] <xales> ._.
#448 [05:50] <Thoatt> I don't....
#449 [05:50] <velimies> wont work -.-
#450 [05:51] <Thoatt> *SIGH*
#451 [05:51] * Thoatt gives up.
#451 [05:51] <xales> Then you are doing it wrong
#452 [05:51] <mib_ne9pa3> Have you tried restarting your computer?
#453 [05:51] <Thoatt> at LEAST 3 times.
#454 [05:51] <Thoatt> like I tell you.
#455 [05:51] <blaphmat> Thoatt is a faggot
#456 [05:51] <Thoatt> !kick blaphmat
#457 [05:51] * AuBot kicked blaphmat from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by Thoatt with reason: None given.))
#458 [05:53] <Thoatt> velimies: Is your card a credit card(can it process transactions through the visa system), ohttp://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i410/cbreaker/minecraft.jpg
#459 [05:53] <Thoatt> fail
#460 [05:53] <velimies> wtf?
#461 [05:53] <Thoatt> I rightclicked...
#462 [05:53] <velimies> now i linked my card...
#463 [05:53] <Thoatt> to your paypal?
#464 [05:53] <velimies> yeah...
#465 [05:53] <Thoatt> ok, then go buy the game now.
#466 [05:53] <velimies> then i confirmed and nothing happens?
#467 [05:53] <Thoatt> with your paypal.
#468 [05:54] <velimies> well i went from there and linked it...
#469 [05:54] <cbreaker> durp
#470 [05:54] <Thoatt> NOT THE CARD... pay with your paypal.
#471 [05:54] <velimies> i did that -,-
#472 [05:54] <velimies> and linked it...
#473 [05:54] <Thoatt> you just did it after you linked it?
#474 [05:54] <velimies> before...
#475 [05:54] <Thoatt> ....
#476 [05:54] <xales> Now that you linked it
#477 [05:54] <Thoatt> 05:53:10 <+Thoatt> ok, then go buy the game now.
#478 [05:54] <xales> you must go to minecraft.net
#479 [05:54] <xales> and on the buy page
#480 [05:55] <xales> CLICK THE PAYPAL BUTTON
#481 [05:55] <Thoatt> NOT CREDIT CARD
#482 [05:55] <velimies> shut the fuck up xales u aint helping me!!! thoatt is helping me...
#483 [05:55] <Thoatt> dude...
#484 [05:55] * xales kicked velimies from #minecrafthelp (Reason: If you want help, don't act like that)
#485 [05:55] <Thoatt> He's telling you THE SAME THING I'M TELLING YOU
#486 [05:55] <Thoatt> ...
#487 [05:55] <cbreaker> oh lawdy
#488 [05:55] * Thoatt sighs
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#489 [05:56] <Aska990> IndustrialCraft compatible 1.4_01, YAY !
#490 [05:56] <mib_ne9pa3> Le sigh.
#491 [05:56] <Thoatt> velimies:
#492 [05:56] <Thoatt> go to minecraftnet
#493 [05:56] <Thoatt> .net*
#494 [05:56] <Thoatt> and on the buy page
#495 [05:56] <Thoatt> CLICK THE PAYPAL BUTTON
#496 [05:56] <velimies> This transaction exceeds your remaining sending limit. Please link and confirm a debit or credit card to lift this limit.
#497 [05:56] <xales> Then you did not link the card
#498 [05:56] <velimies> i clicked i fucking said that many times already -,-
#499 [05:56] <Thoatt> go verify your paypal account.
#500 [05:56] <velimies> ok
#501 [05:57] <velimies> Check your card statement and find the 4-digit PayPal code for the charge you authorized. Enter the code below.
#502 [05:57] <velimies> hmm...
#503 [05:57] <BarryCarlyon> velimies: you've already been kicked once. We are here to help, but there is no need for all the swearing. More of it just means we end up stopping helping in. We are not paid to be here so kicking off doesn't help.
#504 [05:58] <velimies> well u see xales annoys me and he is not helping me at all...
#505 [05:58] <mib_ne9pa3> PEBUAC
#506 [05:58] <Thoatt> velimies:
#507 [05:58] <BarryCarlyon> That is still no reason to kick off. Especially when xales is an admin.
#508 [05:58] <Thoatt> He is, you just aren't listening to him correctly
#509 [05:58] <xales> It's PEBKAC, actually
#510 [05:58] <Thoatt> listen with your ears, not your... penis? AMADOINITRITE?
#511 [05:59] <Thoatt> velimies: Go check your account for the card
#512 [05:59] <Thoatt> There should be a paypal entry on it with a 4 digit code.
#513 [05:59] <velimies> well i need to wait for that...
#514 [05:59] <velimies> i know...
#515 [05:59] <Thoatt> take that code, go to paypal, and verify.
#516 [06:00] <velimies> i know but now i have to wait until i get my statement because i dont havet those internet things which u need to pay ur bils etc...
#517 [06:00] <xales> Then wait. There is nothing else you can do
#518 [06:00] <velimies> i am waiting -,-
#519 [06:00] <mib_ne9pa3> PENCIL!
#520 [06:00] <Thoatt> velimies: You don't have long to verify your paypal. The code expires shortly.
#521 [06:00] <xales> Thoatt: I don't think it does, actually
#522 [06:00] <xales> :P
#523 [06:01] <Thoatt> idk... I had to resend mine after like a week.
#524 [06:01] <BarryCarlyon> Paypal payments for code veifitcations can take upto 3 days to appear in a statemnet.
#525 [06:01] <BarryCarlyon> And since you are not using internet banking......
#526 [06:02] <velimies> hey
#527 [06:02] <velimies> thoatt what about this one "This transaction exceeds your remaining sending limit. Please link and confirm a debit or credit card to lift this limit."
#528 [06:02] <Thoatt> velimies: That is because your paypal is not verified.
#529 [06:02] <Thoatt> Your paypal has a sending limit of $0.00 until it's verified.
#530 [06:02] <velimies> oh i though it meant that i have some kind of limit how much i can use online...
#531 [06:02] <velimies> ok
#532 [06:02] <velimies> thanks...
#533 [06:03] <Aska990> I have no sound
#534 [06:03] <Aska990> again T.T
#535 [06:04] <lemon-rev> aska990 what type of sound card do you have ?
#536 [06:04] <velimies> thanks to you thoatt !!!!
#537 [06:04] <velimies> u were helping a lot...
#538 [06:04] <Thoatt> velimies:
#539 [06:04] <Aska990> hm
#540 [06:04] <Aska990> wait a minute
#541 [06:04] * lemon-rev is board burning software on dvd's lol
#541 [06:04] <Thoatt> I didn't tell you anything you could not have found out by listening to xales, or reading what messages you got from paypal/etc.
#542 [06:05] <velimies> well dont know but i did understand u better than that xales...
#543 [06:05] <lemon-rev> thoatt depends on how long the person sticks aruond for
#544 [06:05] <Thoatt> ._.
#545 [06:05] <Aska990> it's a motherboard integrated soud card
#546 [06:05] <lemon-rev> hm
#547 [06:06] <velimies> well still all thanks go for you!
#548 [06:06] <Aska990> wow, sound now
#549 [06:06] <Aska990> it's totally random T.T
#550 [06:06] <lemon-rev> aska990 can you start/ run / dxdiag / tab music, and test it pplease and also tell me if any bugs in dx also just wondering yea
#551 [06:06] <Thoatt> lemon-rev: linux.
#552 [06:06] <Thoatt> wait...
#553 [06:06] <lemon-rev> ?
#554 [06:06] <Thoatt> Aska990: linux right?
#555 [06:06] <Aska990> yep
#556 [06:06] <lemon-rev> uh
#557 [06:06] <lemon-rev> i see
#558 [06:06] <Thoatt> yeah lemon-rev: linux. lol
#559 [06:06] <lemon-rev> lol ok thanks thoatt
#560 [06:06] <Thoatt> xD
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#562 [06:07] <velimies> one more question.... how long does it really take to expire??? verification code from paypal.
#563 [06:07] <Thoatt> I'm not sure
#564 [06:07] <Thoatt> It should say on your paypal account.
#565 [06:07] <lemon-rev> so aska990 can you please do as i said before about dxdiag please
#566 [06:07] <lemon-rev> if you have it
#567 [06:07] <lemon-rev> on linux
#568 [06:07] <velimies> ok
#569 [06:08] <Aska990> "Can not found command : dxdiag"
#570 [06:08] <Aska990> >.>
#571 [06:08] <Thoatt> lemon-rev: I hate to step on your toes, but... Aska990: did you try running with padsp ?
#572 [06:08] <Aska990> sorry
#573 [06:09] <lemon-rev> thoatt dude, your kewl dont know much about linux :P
#574 [06:09] <Thoatt> :/
#575 [06:09] <xales> that took long enough
#576 [06:09] <xales> now I'm going to bed
#577 [06:09] <lemon-rev> ok nn xales
#578 [06:09] <xales> o/
#579 [06:09] <Thoatt> Aska990: the 'dxdiag' command for linux.. would be sudo lshw
#580 [06:10] <Thoatt> gn xales, sorry for the trouble ._.
#581 [06:10] <lemon-rev> oh, i see
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#583 [06:10] <xales> you aren't the cause, Thoatt. derp
#584 [06:10] <xales> anyway
#585 [06:10] <Adam> i need help guys
#586 [06:10] <Thoatt> I helped it along :D
#587 [06:10] * xales goes to bed now
#587 [06:10] <Thoatt> ??> Adam ask
#588 [06:10] <VoxelHead> Adam: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#589 [06:10] <VoxelHead> Adam: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#590 [06:10] <Adam> I have my server setup, can connect via localhost, 25565 is forwarded
#591 [06:10] <lemon-rev> adam please just state your trouble yea
#592 [06:10] <Thoatt> Adam: firewalls?
#593 [06:10] <xales> derp
#594 [06:10] <Thoatt> nvm then
#595 [06:11] <xales> well
#596 [06:11] <xales> bed for me
#597 [06:11] <Thoatt> cya :)
#598 [06:11] <NotiCon> o/
#599 [06:11] <Thoatt> \o
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#601 [06:11] <lemon-rev> adam type !check
#602 [06:11] <Thoatt> Adam: firewalls?
#603 [06:11] <Adam> !check
#604 [06:11] <Thoatt> !check 117.53.134.7
#605 [06:11] <mib_ne9pa3> !check
#606 [06:11] <mib_ne9pa3> Oh, that doesn't sound nice.
#607 [06:11] <Adam> !check 117.53.134.7
#608 [06:12] <lemon-rev> ok so whats trouble adam you cant connect ?
#609 [06:12] <Adam> yep
#610 [06:12] <Thoatt> Adam: You cannot connect using your outside ip?
#611 [06:12] <lemon-rev> lets see
#612 [06:12] <NotiCon> you can connect local but not extern?
#613 [06:12] <Adam> yes
#614 [06:12] <lemon-rev> yea i get unknown host
#615 [06:12] <Aska990> what the equivalent on linux for dxdiag ?
#616 [06:12] <Thoatt> Adam: I'm in the server, do NOT CHANGE ANYTHING lol
#617 [06:13] <Thoatt> Aska990: lshw
#618 [06:13] <Aska990> sorry, empathy cleaned the irc window T.T
#619 [06:13] <Thoatt> it's ok lol
#620 [06:13] <lemon-rev> hagnon ask
#621 [06:13] <Thoatt> Adam: why not just connect using localhost?
#622 [06:13] <Adam> so how can you connect but not my brother or me?
#623 [06:13] <lemon-rev> [20:10] <+Thoatt> Aska990: the 'dxdiag' command for linux.. would be sudo lshw
#624 [06:14] <Aska990> wow, huge text in result
#625 [06:14] <NotiCon> Adam: is it a lone computer in a network where the two of you have both yours computers?
#626 [06:14] <Aska990> I pastebin it
#627 [06:14] <Thoatt> it's an issue with how your router handles internal -> external ip requests.. my wlan router pci card has the same issue.
#628 [06:14] <Adam> okay
#629 [06:14] <Adam> the server is running on my pc
#630 [06:14] <Thoatt> Just have your brother connect to the internal ip of the server
#631 [06:14] <Adam> i'm using the client on the same pc
#632 [06:15] <Adam> but my brother on a different pc also can't connect via external
#633 [06:15] <NotiCon> Adam: then you connect to localhost and your brother connect to your local ip
#634 [06:15] <Adam> all on the same router
#635 [06:15] <Thoatt> Adam: do you know your internal ip for your computer?
#636 [06:15] <Adam> yes but then my brother is a different suburb
#637 [06:15] <Aska990> http://pastebin.com/eB6sqVjh
#638 [06:15] <Adam> my other brother
#639 [06:15] <Thoatt> same router, different suburb.. wat?
#640 [06:16] <NotiCon> you mean you are not in the same sub network?
#641 [06:16] <Adam> okay sorry
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#643 [06:16] <Adam> me and one of my brothers are on the same router
#644 [06:16] <Adam> neither of us can connect externally but can connect internally
#645 [06:16] <Thoatt> gotcha
#646 [06:16] <Thoatt> So...
#647 [06:16] <NotiCon> then whats the problem?
#648 [06:16] <Thoatt> what's the issue?
#649 [06:17] <Adam> will my brother who is in another town be able to connect via external ip?
#650 [06:17] <Thoatt> your OTHER brother can't connect?
#651 [06:17] <Thoatt> yes
#652 [06:17] <Thoatt> I just did, he should be able to.
#653 [06:17] <NotiCon> you sure you gave him the right ip?
#654 [06:17] <Thoatt> Tell him to connect to : 117.53.134.7
#655 [06:18] <lemon-rev> Aska990 im looking over your pastebin give me a min yea
#656 [06:18] <Thoatt> yep, sure lol
#657 [06:18] <Aska990> okay, thx : )
#658 [06:18] <Adam> okay, so i can't connect externally to my own server because its on my own router
#659 [06:18] <Adam> i was just trying to test it
#660 [06:18] <NotiCon> eh?
#661 [06:18] <Thoatt> lemon-rev: intel 82801JI
#662 [06:19] <lemon-rev> aska990 what in terms of sound do you get when you hear something ?
#663 [06:19] <NotiCon> you cant connect to your extern ip cause of your router have some rules saying no
#664 [06:19] <lemon-rev> thanks thoatt looking up on fourms nwo
#665 [06:19] <Adam> okay cool
#666 [06:19] <Thoatt> Adam: USUALLY you should be able to, but certain routers don't know how to handle the request(ie, checp routers)
#667 [06:19] <Thoatt> *sigh*
#668 [06:19] <Aska990> ...normal sound
#669 [06:20] <Thoatt> Aska990: Did you try running minecraft with padsp?
#670 [06:20] <lemon-rev> aska990 can i pm you ?
#671 [06:20] <Aska990> pm ?
#672 [06:20] <NotiCon> private message
#673 [06:20] <lemon-rev> private message
#674 [06:20] <lemon-rev> lol
#675 [06:20] <Aska990> woh
#676 [06:20] <Aska990> how do you do this ?
#677 [06:20] <lemon-rev> look for extra tab thats like flashing
#678 [06:20] <Thoatt> lol
#679 [06:20] <lemon-rev> hm
#680 [06:20] <Thoatt> A WITCH!
#681 [06:21] <Aska990> yes, I see you ^^
#682 [06:21] <NotiCon> witch?!? where?!?
#683 [06:21] <Thoatt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g
#684 [06:21] <lemon-rev> thoatt thanks we have it :P
#685 [06:21] <Thoatt> ok lol
#686 [06:33] <Coll> Movie suggestions please
#687 [06:34] <Thoatt> Eat, Pray, Love
#688 [06:34] <Thoatt> Big Mama's House 3.
#689 [06:34] <NotiCon> hop
#690 [06:34] <NotiCon> hannah
#691 [06:34] <Thoatt> Or were you being srs? lol
#692 [06:34] <Thoatt> The Inside Job.
#693 [06:34] <Coll> >.>
#694 [06:34] <NotiCon> the bank job
#695 [06:34] <Thoatt> The Next Three Days
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#697 [06:35] <Thoatt> The Mechanic
#698 [06:35] <Coll> Why would I ask for suggestions and not be serious?
#699 [06:35] <Thoatt> Unstoppable
#700 [06:35] <Thoatt> The Figther
#701 [06:35] <NotiCon> cause this is a minecraft help channel?
#702 [06:35] <NotiCon> not a movie suggestions channel ?
#703 [06:35] <Thoatt> Jackass 3d?
#704 [06:35] <Thoatt> Spaceballs.
#705 [06:35] <Thoatt> ^^^^
#706 [06:35] <Coll> uh ok
#707 [06:35] <Coll> thanks I guess
#708 [06:35] <mib_3y6q60> lu je n arrive pas a me co sur un server du site
#709 [06:35] <NotiCon> spacejam!
#710 [06:35] <NotiCon> le no french
#711 [06:35] <Thoatt> mib_3y6q60: English please.
#712 [06:35] <Thoatt> LOL noti
#713 [06:36] <Thoatt> anglais s'il vous plait
#714 [06:36] <Thoatt> personne ne parle francias ici. :(
#715 [06:37] <Thoatt> mib_3y6q60: Comprendre?
#716 [06:37] <mib_3y6q60> si moi
#717 [06:37] <Thoatt> desole :(
#718 [06:38] <Aska990> moi aussi : D
#719 [06:38] <Aska990> but speak english please
#720 [06:38] <mib_3y6q60> on peut faire un server sur le site???
#721 [06:39] <Aska990> <Thoatt> mib_3y6q60: English please.
#722 [06:39] <Thoatt> sur ce site?
#723 [06:40] <Thoatt> Parlez-vous anglais, mib_3y6q60?
#724 [06:40] <Thoatt> is someone helping them in pm? lol
#725 [06:41] <mib_3y6q60> oui on peut ??? parceque j ai suivi un tuto pour cree un server mes maitenent je n arrive pas a trouver l ip de mon server et le por t de ma livebox pour louvrir
#726 [06:42] <lemon-rev> whos ment to be in pm lol not me
#727 [06:42] <Thoatt> rediriger les ports?
#728 [06:43] <Thoatt> Etes-vous connectant a correcte IP l'adresse?
#729 [06:45] <Thoatt> nvm then...
#730 [06:45] <Thoatt> I see my French is not good enough for you...
#731 [06:45] <Thoatt> Qu'en est-il allemand? :D
#732 [06:46] <Thoatt> je sais plus allemand que francias =/
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#735 [07:02] <mib_ne9pa3> Hum. Randomly banned from #minecraft.. without ever having gone there.
#736 [07:03] <NotiCon> cause all nicks starting with mib is banned from there
#737 [07:04] <mib_ne9pa3> Thought it might be something like that.
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#741 [07:18] <mib_3y6q60> le port on le trouve ou???
#742 [07:20] <NotiCon> why did you go into french mode again? :(
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#747 [07:34] <Thoatt> NotiCon: Because they were speaking French? lol
#748 [07:34] <NotiCon> also they? whois this other guy?
#749 [07:34] <NotiCon> oh right
#750 [07:34] <NotiCon> there was two of them
#751 [07:34] <NotiCon> nvm me
#752 [07:34] <NotiCon> wasnt looking :(
#753 [07:34] <Thoatt> lol
#754 [07:34] <NotiCon> he always spoke french
#755 [07:35] <NotiCon> the other was just someone that spoke english
#756 [07:35] <Thoatt> yeah, I don't think they speak Englsih =/
#757 [07:35] <Thoatt> lol
#758 [07:36] <Thoatt> BANANA... Y U NO GET YELLOW FASTER?
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#762 [07:38] <mib_ne9pa3> Spraken ze doitch? D:
#763 [07:38] <Thoatt> JAJA :D
#764 [07:38] <Thoatt> UBERSPRECHEN!
#765 [07:38] <Thoatt> or w/e\
#766 [07:39] <Thoatt> mib_ne9pa3: was brauchen sie?
#767 [07:39] <mib_ne9pa3> You did what now?
#768 [07:39] <Thoatt> >.>
#769 [07:39] <mib_ne9pa3> XD
#770 [07:40] <mib_ne9pa3> How many languages do you know dude?
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#772 [07:40] <Thoatt> uh... s little frecnh, a little spanish, a bit more German, and a lot of English
#773 [07:40] <Thoatt> French*
#774 [07:40] <mib_ne9pa3> Dammmn. I only know english.
#775 [07:40] <Thoatt> lol
#776 [07:42] <Thoatt> The fuck? ohonecall? really? brb
#777 [07:44] <Thoatt> that was random
#778 [07:44] <Thoatt> phone*
#779 [07:44] <Thoatt> wrong number fail lol
#780 [07:47] <SlashLife> Thoatt: So mib_ne9pa3 can't speak German and he can't use a phone dial, either? :D
#781 [07:47] <Thoatt> no lol, I meant I was getting a phonecall lol
#782 [07:47] <SlashLife> Yeah. mib_ne9pa3 misdialed. :D
#783 [07:48] <Thoatt> lol
#784 [07:48] <Thoatt> in that case, mib_ne9pa3, Debora doesn't live here ._.
#785 [07:49] <SlashLife> That sounds like you're sad about that.
#786 [07:49] <Thoatt> or... deborah...
#787 [07:49] <Thoatt> or... debera
#788 [07:49] <Thoatt> or.. deberah
#789 [07:49] <SlashLife> Or ... DEBRIS!! AAAAAHHH!!!!!
#790 [07:49] <Thoatt> lol
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#792 [07:52] <firerat> Hello, how do I update my Minecraft server.jar?
#793 [07:53] <Thoatt> Download the new one.
#794 [07:53] <Thoatt> stop the server, replace the file, start the server
#795 [07:53] <Thoatt> ???
#796 [07:53] <Thoatt> profit!
#797 [07:53] <SlashLife> Mhh ... how would you define "a little"?
#798 [07:54] <Thoatt> pretty little lol
#799 [07:54] <SlashLife> I can say that I don't speak that particular language in about half a dozen languages. x)
#800 [07:54] <Thoatt> very light conversation I think...
#801 [07:54] <SlashLife> Ok, too much for me then. x)
#802 [07:54] <firerat> I dl the update and it has like a.class and ab.class in the file i just don't know where to put them?
#803 [07:54] <Thoatt> ... what?
#804 [07:54] <firerat> oh wait... nvm
#805 [07:54] <firerat> click and drag to the folder with the other jar file...
#806 [07:54] <SlashLife> "My Japanese is perfect. It's not my fault that the Japanese don't speak their own language!"
#807 [07:55] <Thoatt> Exactly...
#808 [07:55] <Thoatt> On that note.. i can type 1000 wpm... in my own language.
#809 [07:55] <SlashLife> "All the words are 'a' so there is no need to separate them with a space. It's very important that you pronounce them correctly, though."
#810 [07:56] <Thoatt> lool
#811 [07:56] * Thoatt goes back to staring at compiling code and playing guitar
#811 [07:57] <SlashLife> Wouldn't staring at the compilers output be much more satisfying than staring at the code itself?
#812 [07:58] <SlashLife> It's trying so hard to find a flaw in your code ...
#813 [07:58] <Thoatt> It's not /my/ code lol
#814 [07:59] <SlashLife> Why do you even look at the code in the first place then? >_>
#815 [07:59] <Thoatt> Because it's fun to learn how things work? lol
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#817 [08:07] <SlashLife> But ... you'd have to take it apart for that. :<
#818 [08:07] <SlashLife> There's no fun in learning stuff if you're not allowed to take it apart.
#819 [08:07] <Thoatt> And? lol
#820 [08:07] <Thoatt> You don't own it unless you can take it apart :)
#821 [08:08] <SlashLife> I learned how our VCR worked.
#822 [08:08] <SlashLife> And shortly after I learned how it didn't. x)
#823 [08:08] <Thoatt> lol
#824 [08:08] <Thoatt> You end up with 80 screws. Wen you put it back together, you'll find exactly 47 screw holes.
#825 [08:08] <SlashLife> Something like that. :D
#826 [08:09] <SlashLife> And that's when you notice that you're officially screwed.
#827 [08:09] <Thoatt> /terrible pun
#828 [08:09] <SlashLife> It's funny 'cause it's true!
#829 [08:10] <Thoatt> poop... I hate knowing how to play a song... but then forgetting what the hell the song is >.>
#830 [08:11] <Thoatt> Anyone know what goes: C#m | A | E | B in a DDUUDU strumming pattern?
#831 [08:12] <mib_ne9pa3> I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say Barbie Girl?
#832 [08:12] <Thoatt> the intro is Esus2sus4 | E | Asus2 | E | Am/C
#833 [08:12] <Thoatt> no not that... lol
#834 [08:13] <mib_ne9pa3> Close enough.
#835 [08:13] <SlashLife> Thoatt: A short recording would be helpful. ;p
#836 [08:13] <Thoatt> barbie girl goes C#m F#m B E C#m F#m Bsus4 B iirc
#837 [08:13] <Thoatt> uhh.. one sec.. I'll see if I can record it lol
#838 [08:14] <SlashLife> Because I cba to get out my keyboard. :p
#839 [08:14] <SlashLife> Bah. It's time they update this server. Those taunts on the main screen of the "cracked" Minecraft are getting on my nerves.
#840 [08:15] <TobiX> Thoatt: The internet suggested http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/g/graham_parker/fear_not.html ...
#841 [08:15] <TobiX> But that might just be a coincedence ;)
#842 [08:16] <Thoatt> nope.. it goes C#m A E B.. I'm 400% positive lol
#843 [08:17] <mib_ne9pa3> What is Minecraft. Baby don't mine me, don't mine me, no more.
#844 [08:18] <TobiX> Thoatt: Seems to be pretty common: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rylkv3yE6Rk ;)
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#846 [08:19] <Thoatt> That guy... is who I started learning guitar from...
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#848 [08:19] <DDG> Hello
#849 [08:19] <Thoatt> I bought his lesson books like.. a long time ago... lol
#850 [08:19] <DDG> I have a question.
#851 [08:19] <Thoatt> ?? ask
#852 [08:19] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#853 [08:19] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#854 [08:20] <DDG> Minecraft keeps crashing on me and i can not seem to solve the problem
#855 [08:20] <DDG> How can i go about fixing this?
#856 [08:20] <Thoatt> Does it give an error message?
#857 [08:20] <DDG> No
#858 [08:20] <Thoatt> When does it crash exactly?
#859 [08:20] <DDG> Screen turns black nd crashes
#860 [08:20] <Thoatt> SlashLife: recording now
#861 [08:21] <DDG> I thought it was from the day night cycle but it seems it has to do with lighting.
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#863 [08:23] <DDG> I will see what is making it crash give me a bit
#864 [08:24] <Thoatt> wth... my microphone asn't plugged in... fml
#865 [08:24] <Thoatt> wasn't*
#866 [08:24] <Thoatt> one sec..
#867 [08:24] <DDG> Hmmm i do not think it is minecraft doing it. It may be just a plugin on the server.
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#869 [08:27] <DDG> Alright here is what i did. I was on a server and i was using the /home command to teleport myself to where i have set my home. I teleport to the position But then Minecraft freezes then crashes. Do you have any idea on how to solve this problem?
#870 [08:28] <Thoatt> We only deal with vanilla server issues here. What server software is the server running? Bukkit?
#871 [08:29] <DDG> Yes. I will head over to where ever this may be solved.
#872 [08:29] <Thoatt> SlashLife: http://thoatt.com/bleh.mp3
#873 [08:29] <Thoatt> lol
#874 [08:29] <Thoatt> cold fingers + tiredness makes my playing..not the greatest..
#875 [08:29] <Thoatt> that, and I'm playing an electric, the song is acustic.
#876 [08:30] <Thoatt> but anyways.. it's that, over and over
#877 [08:30] <Thoatt> for the verse and chorus f the song..
#878 [08:30] <Thoatt> of*
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#880 [08:30] <DDG> Thoatt it is only 7:30 AM here. tired is nothing. Minecraft is eveything
#881 [08:31] <Mambazo> Hello
#882 [08:31] <Thoatt> I learned it this morning because it sounded like a cool song (I didn't hear it before), and it sounded easy to play.. now I have no idea what the song was, or any lyics, or what it's about... but I know how to play it lol
#883 [08:31] <Mambazo> Anyone else having this lag issue?
#884 [08:31] <DDG> Well Thank you i will be on my way.
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#886 [08:32] <Thoatt> Mambazo: yeah, a few people.
#887 [08:32] <Thoatt> SlashLife: asny ideas?
#888 [08:32] <Thoatt> any*
#889 [08:33] <Mambazo> Re: Lag: Is there any news on it?
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#891 [08:33] <Mambazo> Seems the devs haven't been on the forum in a long time
#892 [08:35] <SlashLife> Thoatt: One moment ...
#893 [08:35] <SlashLife> ... got to kill a few creepes. :)
#894 [08:35] <SlashLife> +r
#895 [08:35] <Thoatt> lol ok
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#897 [08:37] <SlashLife> Thoatt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gagolGCFcyQ#t=18 ?
#898 [08:37] <Thoatt> Nope..
#899 [08:37] <Thoatt> different strumming pattern.
#900 [08:38] <SlashLife> Since you don't know which song it was anymore, I cannot assume that you still know that pattern. ;p
#901 [08:38] <Thoatt> also, that's c#m, Am, E, A somthing
#902 [08:38] <Thoatt> I'm 100% positive that's the pattern. lol DDUUDU
#903 [08:38] <Thoatt> technically.. it's D-DU--UDU
#904 [08:38] <Thoatt> there are slight pauses, etc.
#905 [08:39] <Thoatt> wait a tick...
#906 [08:39] <Thoatt> I think i found it
#907 [08:40] <Thoatt> yup.. found it >.<
#908 [08:41] <mib_ne9pa3> Ninja pro, sweeeet.
#909 [08:42] <Thoatt> SlashLife: It's The Talles Man On Earth - Honey Won't You Let Me In, from the album, played w/o a capo
#910 [08:42] <Thoatt> Tallest*
#911 [08:42] <SlashLife> Ok.
#912 [08:42] <SlashLife> So I wouldn't have guessed it anyway. :D
#913 [08:44] * Thoatt goes back to playing real songs.. w/o strumming ._.
#913 [08:44] <Thoatt> strumming ftl lol
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#916 [09:12] <Aska990> go sleeping
#917 [09:12] <Thoatt> NO U
#918 [09:12] <Thoatt> I dunwanna
#919 [09:12] <Aska990> bye everyone
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#925 [09:44] <zelda> Can i buy MC in Switzerland?
#926 [09:45] <FluffySky> Probably.
#927 [09:46] <Thoatt> No... You can only buy Minecraft online.
#928 [09:46] <Thoatt> It's not in stores yet :)
#929 [09:47] <zelda> Can I buy it in the net?^^ (my english isnt very good, so sry when it faild xD)
#930 [09:48] <Thoatt> ... Are you... /on/ the internet?
#931 [09:49] <zelda> sry, what?^^
#932 [09:49] <Thoatt> Do you have internet
#933 [09:49] <zelda> yes
#934 [09:49] <Thoatt> Then... yes.
#935 [09:50] <FluffySky> Lol.
#936 [09:51] <zelda> just, we dont have Euros, we have Francs
#937 [09:52] <FluffySky> You can still buy via Paypal and it'll automatically convert the money values.
#938 [09:52] <SlashLife> I need a book from Amazon.com :(
#939 [09:52] <zelda> ok thx very much ^^
#940 [09:52] <SlashLife> It's not available on Amazon.de :|
#941 [09:52] <SlashLife> And Amazon.com only takes CCs >:(
#942 [09:53] <SlashLife> I should send them an email: ssssssSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
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#944 [09:56] <d1no> it's not up?
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#946 [10:02] <d1no> yay
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#950 [10:18] <ROFLMAO> aeoridklnvoairenfqaetfbgq3h
#951 [10:18] <ROFLMAO> ea
#952 [10:18] <ROFLMAO> aergbae
#953 [10:18] <ROFLMAO> ba
#954 [10:18] <ROFLMAO> ertb
#955 [10:18] <Thoatt> ._.
#956 [10:19] <ROFLMAO> :p
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#959 [10:20] <ROFLMAO> meow
#960 [10:20] <ROFLMAO> ?
#961 [10:20] <Thoatt> woof
#962 [10:21] <ROFLMAO> ekk!
#963 [10:21] * ROFLMAO runs
#963 [10:21] * Thoatt chases ROFLMAO.
#963 [10:21] <ROFLMAO> O.O
#964 [10:21] * Kealper rawrs
#964 [10:22] * ROFLMAO runs from both kealper and thoatt
#964 [10:23] <ROFLMAO> yo neds hep?
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#967 [10:28] <RoNeN> kelkun parle francai ici?
#968 [10:28] <ROFLMAO> uh..
#969 [10:28] <ROFLMAO> asdf?
#970 [10:28] <Thoatt> un peu
#971 [10:29] <Thoatt> que pensez-vous besoin d'aide?
#972 [10:30] <Thoatt> RoNeN: ?
#973 [10:30] <Thoatt> RoNeN: parlez-vous anglais?
#974 [10:31] <Thoatt> Why is it, foreign people NEVER say anything...
#975 [10:31] <Thoatt> *sigh*
#976 [10:31] <oldtopmanserver> Thoatt: ikr
#977 [10:31] <ROFLMAO> me i say
#978 [10:32] <ROFLMAO> yo know?
#979 [10:32] <Thoatt> somewhat? lol
#980 [10:33] <ROFLMAO> yo ma see no?
#981 [10:34] <Thoatt> RoNeN: pourquoi voudriez-vous demander si vous ne voulez pas parler?
#982 [10:34] <Thoatt> w/e... nvm then...
#983 [10:34] <ROFLMAO> maya uo do no..
#984 [10:35] <Thoatt> ROFLMAO... esta trantando de hablar espanol? lol
#985 [10:35] <Thoatt> err... tratando*
#986 [10:35] <ROFLMAO> english no?
#987 [10:35] <Thoatt> ._.
#988 [10:35] <oldtopmanserver> Maybe thay are just coming into the wrong channel.
#989 [10:36] <Thoatt> oldtopmanserver: They asked if anyone here spoke french lol..
#990 [10:36] <ROFLMAO> yo neds hep
#991 [10:36] <oldtopmanserver> Thoatt: My point still stands
#992 [10:37] <Thoatt> But I mean... if they joined the worng channel, wouldn't they leave shortly after finding out they did?
#993 [10:37] <oldtopmanserver> Thoatt: He is probably talking in a different channel/network
#994 [10:38] <Thoatt> ... herpin the derp then...
#995 [10:38] <oldtopmanserver> Its my best explaination
#996 [10:38] <oldtopmanserver> And on this server, he's just on this channel
#997 [10:39] <Thoatt> Maybe they are just like: *join, ask question* (someone responds) "Well.. there are people here.. screw this.."*idles*
#998 [10:41] <RoNeN> still here?
#999 [10:41] <ROFLMAO> me sill here yo no?
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#1004 [10:47] <Thoatt> Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!
#1005 [10:49] <FluffySky> I know.
#1006 [10:49] <FluffySky> Problem?
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#1017 [11:32] <m89yu9h> Hello! I think I have a bit of a problem with Java. At one point I had Version 6 and the prototype for Version 7 on my computer, but I was just black screening. I thought I had unistalled everything Java related, but when I try and install version 6 again, it tells me that I can't because I already have some form of it installed..
#1018 [11:33] <m89yu9h> I'm also unable to play the game out of browser
#1019 [11:33] <Kealper> has it ever worked before?
#1020 [11:33] <m89yu9h> yes
#1021 [11:34] <m89yu9h> after some modding, things started going haywire
#1022 [11:34] <Kealper> did it just stop today? or did it stop working after a specific update?
#1023 [11:34] <Kealper> >modding
#1024 [11:34] <m89yu9h> stopped working before the last update, and now i can't update
#1025 [11:34] <Kealper> you probably installed a mod that was not for the current version of the game
#1026 [11:34] <Kealper> what does it say when you to try update?
#1027 [11:34] <m89yu9h> it freezes at about 10%
#1028 [11:35] <m89yu9h> everytime
#1029 [11:35] <m89yu9h> and now i don't even get a black screen in browser
#1030 [11:35] <Kealper> hmm....you're on windows, correct?
#1031 [11:35] <m89yu9h> yes
#1032 [11:35] <m89yu9h> vista
#1033 [11:36] <Kealper> type this into the search bar in the start menu, and press enter: %appdata%\.minecraft
#1034 [11:36] <Kealper> it should open a folder
#1035 [11:36] <Kealper> did it?
#1036 [11:37] <m89yu9h> yeah
#1037 [11:37] <m89yu9h> my .minecraft folder
#1038 [11:37] <Kealper> ok, do you see a folder in there called saves and one called screenshots?
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#1040 [11:38] <m89yu9h> have the saves, but not the screenshots
#1041 [11:38] <m89yu9h> i'm not really concerned about saving any previous work
#1042 [11:38] <m89yu9h> just want to get it working
#1043 [11:38] <Kealper> oh, guess you haven't taken any screenshots then lol, well...delete everything except the saves folder
#1044 [11:38] <m89yu9h> the entire .minecraft folder?
#1045 [11:39] <Kealper> you could delete the whole .minecraft folder if you didn't care about losing your saves
#1046 [11:39] <m89yu9h> i think i've already transferred my one save to someplace safe
#1047 [11:39] <m89yu9h> so i'll just delete it all
#1048 [11:39] <m89yu9h> ok it's gone
#1049 [11:40] <Kealper> ok, try running the launcher again (or playing from the site)
#1050 [11:41] <m89yu9h> yeah, nothing comes up
#1051 [11:41] <Kealper> does it even attempt to download the files?
#1052 [11:42] <m89yu9h> no, the black screen doesn't even come up
#1053 [11:42] <m89yu9h> in browser
#1054 [11:42] <m89yu9h> http://i.imgur.com/KSLgo.jpg
#1055 [11:43] <m89yu9h> let me try the .exe
#1056 [11:43] <Kealper> hmm
#1057 [11:43] <Kealper> it looks like java doesn't want to work
#1058 [11:43] <m89yu9h> yeah..
#1059 [11:43] <m89yu9h> here's the screenshot of when i run .exe
#1060 [11:43] <Kealper> open up a command prompt (start menu search > cmd > press enter)
#1061 [11:44] <m89yu9h> yeah
#1062 [11:44] <Kealper> type java -version
#1063 [11:44] <Kealper> does it say it can't find "java" or does it spit back a version?
#1064 [11:45] <m89yu9h> not recognized
#1065 [11:45] <m89yu9h> here's the screenshot of running .exe
#1066 [11:45] <m89yu9h> http://i.imgur.com/myjX3.jpg
#1067 [11:46] <Kealper> yeah, something is definately messed up with your java install....go in to programs and features from the control panel and uninstall any java installations you have
#1068 [11:46] <Kealper> then go to http://java.com and get the latest stable release (should be 1.6.0_24 or something like that)
#1069 [11:46] <m89yu9h> yeah, i've done that and when i go to reinstall, it says i still have some form of java on my computer that i need to get rid of first
#1070 [11:47] <Kealper> oh? hmm...you are sure there is not multiple copies of java installed? (no other copies show up in programs and features?)
#1071 [11:47] <m89yu9h> is there some way to completely eradicate any remblence of java?
#1072 [11:48] <m89yu9h> let me recheck
#1073 [11:48] <m89yu9h> yeah nothing in program files.
#1074 [11:49] <m89yu9h> CCleaner showed a Java 6 Updater but I uninstalled it
#1075 [11:49] <m89yu9h> but i feel like i have done that multiple times already. like it reappears
#1076 [11:50] <Kealper> well...i'm actually not sure then......
#1077 [11:50] <m89yu9h> yeah, it's really confusing.
#1078 [11:50] <Kealper> i guess you could try creating a new windows user account and reinstall java on that...maybe some random registry entries are in HKCU :/
#1079 [11:51] <m89yu9h> Ok, yeah I'll give that I try
#1080 [11:51] <m89yu9h> so there could be corrupted java files associated with my current user?
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#1082 [11:52] <Kealper> could be.....other scenario would mean lots of torment, or giving up and reinstalling windows, or giving up and dual booting with Ubuntu or something
#1083 [11:53] <m89yu9h> ahhh let's hope not. I'm not very computer literate, so time-wise i hope the user switch might work
#1084 [11:53] <m89yu9h> Thank you very much for the help, though
#1085 [11:53] <m89yu9h> I really appreciate it
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#1087 [11:53] <Kealper> one can hope it's the easiest of the solutions lol
#1088 [11:53] <Kealper> the others would take a while, and such
#1089 [11:54] <Kealper> wuck*
#1090 [11:54] <Kealper> bleh....typing is off
#1091 [11:54] <m89yu9h> yeah, it's just frustrating because I've only had minecraft for about a week, and now I can't play it
#1092 [11:55] <m89yu9h> addiction withdrawals
#1093 [11:55] <Kealper> lol
#1094 [11:56] <m89yu9h> Well I'm off.
#1095 [11:56] <m89yu9h> Have a great day
#1096 [11:56] <Kealper> cya lol, hopefully the account switch works
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#1104 [12:07] <Smetty02> hello i have a problem with my server saying there is already another server running on the port and that it failed to bind can anyone help me ?
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#1114 [12:49] <esper_aatlqr> hello
#1115 [12:49] <Kealper> hi
#1116 [12:49] <Mikau> osup
#1117 [12:49] <esper_aatlqr> are any of the all gamers available
#1118 [12:50] <Kealper> anyone in here with their name starting with "AG_" is from AppGamer
#1119 [12:50] <Kealper> AllGamer*
#1120 [12:50] <aetherian> huh, I didn't know that.
#1121 [12:50] <esper_aatlqr> well i know that but im wondering if they are available or if there offline right now
#1122 [12:51] <Kealper> and i've seen a few of them talking in a different channel a while ago, so they might still be here
#1123 [12:51] <oldtopmanserver> Highlight them
#1124 [12:51] <Kealper> AG_Scott: AG_Clinton: AG_Elias:
#1125 [12:51] <AG_Scott> meow
#1126 [12:51] <oldtopmanserver> I told you.
#1127 [12:51] <Kealper> AG_Scott: esper_aatlqr wants you
#1128 [12:51] <esper_aatlqr> hey ag scott
#1129 [12:51] <esper_aatlqr> its midget1102
#1130 [12:51] <AG_Scott> Kealper already highlighted me. :P
#1131 [12:51] <AG_Scott> AllGamer highlights me :D
#1132 [12:51] <oldtopmanserver> Sweet
#1133 [12:52] <Kealper> yeah, i knew AG and AllGamer highlights most of you, lol
#1134 [12:52] <esper_aatlqr> ag scott i am noob
#1135 [12:52] <AG_Scott> Whats the problem?
#1136 [12:52] <esper_aatlqr> i was wondering what do u do when ur players on your server die and then when they spawn they fall through and infinite hole of death
#1137 [12:53] <AG_Scott> Well, they shouldn't do that.
#1138 [12:53] <Kealper> hmm... esper_aatlqr is everyone on your server doing that? or just you?
#1139 [12:53] <AG_Scott> Yes, it is it just one person or everyone?
#1140 [12:53] <esper_aatlqr> no everyone including myself and a few of my players
#1141 [12:53] <AG_Scott> If it's everyone, we need to take a look at it because something isn't working right.
#1142 [12:53] <Kealper> O.o
#1143 [12:53] <xales> A few of them, or ALL of them?
#1144 [12:53] <esper_aatlqr> well i only have a few people who play well technically one
#1145 [12:54] <esper_aatlqr> and he says he falls through it all the time and i do as well when im on it
#1146 [12:54] <Kealper> man, the RIFT downloader is a stupid P2P downloader....with no way of telling it NOT to totally saturate my upload....
#1147 [12:54] <AG_Scott> Just go ahead and open a ticket, I think I know the problem.
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#1150 [12:55] <esper_aatlqr> umm yea theres a problem with your guys login page fr all gamer
#1151 [12:56] <esper_aatlqr> i go to login and it displays a page that says http404 not found
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#1153 [12:57] * aetherian laughs inwardly
#1153 [12:57] <aetherian> hello foggy
#1154 [12:57] <fogWraith> oh hello :P
#1155 [12:57] <fogWraith> wat up in dem hoods?
#1156 [12:58] <aetherian> uh
#1157 [12:58] <esper_aatlqr> ag scott
#1158 [12:58] <aetherian> normally in my hood, there's a head.
#1159 [12:58] <Kealper> i just imagined how that had to sound with a swedish accent lol
#1160 [12:58] <aetherian> but it's far too hot to be wearing a sweater right no
#1161 [12:58] <aetherian> *now
#1162 [12:58] <AG_Scott> https://allgamer.net/clients/clientarea.php
#1163 [12:59] <xales> AG_Scott: fun fact
#1164 [12:59] <xales> I've seen server hosts that say they are "secure" but don't have SSL for their control panel(s)
#1165 [12:59] <xales> and I don't mean self signed
#1166 [12:59] <Kealper> ._.
#1167 [12:59] <xales> I mean https://theirsite.com goes to an error
#1168 [12:59] <xales> because an SSL certificate could not be found
#1169 [12:59] <esper_aatlqr> ive submitted one i think
#1170 [12:59] <xales> :|
#1171 [13:00] <xales> self signed is one thing
#1172 [13:00] <xales> but none at all?
#1173 [13:00] <Kealper> even i have a self-signed cert for my domain lol
#1174 [13:00] <xales> ._.
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#1176 [13:00] <Kealper> it may not be trustworthy for a big site, but atleast it's secure ._.
#1177 [13:01] <Kealper> which reminds me....i gotta update that cert, it's expired and self-signed....browsers don't like that lol
#1178 [13:01] <xales> honestly, for the most part, the idea of CAs is stupid
#1179 [13:01] <xales> at least, the way it is now
#1180 [13:01] <xales> AKA, spending thousands of dollars for a company to do, for the most part, nothing
#1181 [13:01] <Kealper> yeah...just a way to make money
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#1183 [13:02] <Kealper> and cause a massive security fail if someone gets ahold of crap from a CA
#1184 [13:02] <AG_Scott> xales, I seen the same thing XD
#1185 [13:02] <Kealper> you guys have DirectAdmin?
#1186 [13:02] <xales> AG_Scott: D:
#1187 [13:03] <AG_Scott> we don't use it
#1188 [13:03] <Kealper> i both love and hate DA
#1189 [13:03] <Kealper> some things are easier to do than cpanel...others....not so much lol
#1190 [13:03] <aetherian> so what, you hug it while stabbing it?
#1191 [13:03] <AG_Scott> esper_aatlqr, i dont see a ticket
#1192 [13:03] <Kealper> aetherian: precisely
#1193 [13:04] <aetherian> aww, so cute
#1194 [13:04] <aetherian> you know, to be healing something while killing it just comes out to torture
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#1197 [13:06] <xales> LOL
#1198 [13:06] <aetherian> what
#1199 [13:06] <xales> Kealper: I just tried to /whois * for some reason
#1200 [13:06] <xales> 13:05:45 -!- Irssi: Doing this is not a good idea. Add -YES option to command if you really mean it
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#1202 [13:07] <Kealper> XD
#1203 [13:07] <aetherian> haha
#1204 [13:07] <LRWerewolf> aetherian: Except that torture ideally doesn't lead to death; produces a fundamental limit on information retrevial.
#1205 [13:07] <aetherian> LRWerewolf: hence the healing...?
#1206 [13:07] <Kealper> i'd say doo et, but the resulting spam would probably kill irssi
#1207 [13:07] <xales> SendQ
#1208 [13:07] <xales> derp
#1209 [13:07] <aetherian> I should try that :D
#1210 [13:07] <aetherian> if only one could /ping *
#1211 [13:07] * Kealper does that on xalesnet
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#1212 [13:07] <xales> lol
#1213 [13:07] <aetherian> oh
#1214 [13:08] <aetherian> doesn't work on mine
#1215 [13:08] <xales> Kealper: you have a huge SendQ on xalesnet
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#1217 [13:08] <Kealper> that's why i'm doin it lol
#1218 [13:08] <xales> ...I think
#1219 [13:08] <xales> I think I remembered to put you in the oper class
#1220 [13:08] <xales> :3
#1221 [13:08] <Kealper> indeed
#1222 [13:08] <LRWerewolf> aetherian: Exactly! Imagine if you could heal someone recently dead (few minutes) and bring them back to perfect health (or you spawn camp 'em). You could kill 'em over and over in clever and inventive and deliciously painful ways. .. .... .. um.... </pinhead> *whistles innocently*
#1223 [13:08] <xales> but there's not enough users to disconnect you anyway
#1224 [13:09] <Kealper> bleh, i don't trust it
#1225 [13:09] <esper_aatlqr> ticket submitted
#1226 [13:09] <Kealper> i don't feel like it accidentally whois'ing this network instead lol
#1227 [13:10] <aetherian> fubleh
#1228 [13:10] <aetherian> how do you add the -YES anyway >.>
#1229 [13:11] <Kealper> /whois * -YES
#1230 [13:11] <Thoatt|afk> *whistles*
#1231 [13:11] * Thoatt|afk goes to do et
#1231 [13:11] <Kealper> lol
#1232 [13:11] * xales waves
#1232 [13:11] <Thoatt|afk> no such nick.
#1233 [13:11] <aetherian> ^
#1234 [13:11] <aetherian> There is no such nick -YES
#1235 [13:12] <aetherian> D:
#1236 [13:12] <Kealper> oh, fail then
#1237 [13:12] <xales> Kealper: he isn't using irssi I think
#1238 [13:12] <xales> also, it's probably /whois -YES *
#1239 [13:12] <Kealper> thoatt is
#1240 [13:13] <aetherian> I have irssi running next to this
#1241 [13:13] <Thoatt|afk> nope xales.
#1242 [13:13] <Thoatt|afk> thoatt is what...
#1243 [13:13] <Thoatt|afk> oh..
#1244 [13:13] <Thoatt|afk> yes I am
#1245 [13:13] <Kealper> lol
#1246 [13:13] <xales> what?
#1247 [13:13] <xales> oh, Kealper
#1248 [13:13] <Thoatt|afk> exactly.
#1249 [13:13] <aetherian> but even though whoising * is not recommended, there is no such nick *.
#1250 [13:13] <xales> I finished the services thing
#1251 [13:13] <Kealper> orly
#1252 [13:14] <xales> ya
#1253 [13:14] <xales> it works!
#1254 [13:14] <Kealper> \o/
#1255 [13:14] <xales> and it's configurable!
#1256 [13:14] <xales> ..ish
#1257 [13:14] <Kealper> lol
#1258 [13:14] <xales> there is not much normal users can do
#1259 [13:14] <xales> but it could probably help much with debugging
#1260 [13:15] <Tanjoodo_iPod> So, xalesnet?
#1261 [13:15] <xales> wut
#1262 [13:15] <xales> it's my secret test server
#1263 [13:15] <xales> D:
#1264 [13:15] <Kealper> which you shall not know D:
#1265 [13:15] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Okay, was just wondering.
#1266 [13:15] <Thoatt|afk> xales:
#1267 [13:15] <Thoatt|afk> want me...
#1268 [13:15] <xales> Thoatt|afk:
#1269 [13:15] <Thoatt|afk> to help... stress test it?
#1270 [13:15] <xales> want you...
#1271 [13:15] <Thoatt|afk> :D
#1272 [13:15] <xales> lol
#1273 [13:15] <xales> not really?
#1274 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> You sure? lol
#1275 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> I could uh...
#1276 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> you know...
#1277 [13:16] <xales> it's not meant to have more than 5 clients :P
#1278 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> Well then...
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#1280 [13:16] <xales> well
#1281 [13:16] <xales> spit it out
#1282 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> STRESS TESTING IT IS! MUAHAHAHA
#1283 [13:16] <xales> what do you want? ._.
#1284 [13:16] <xales> also, it's not on port 6667
#1285 [13:16] <xales> lol
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#1287 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> oh... thought you meant on 110?
#1288 [13:16] <JonathanS> thoatt
#1289 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> the alt chat server?
#1290 [13:16] <JonathanS> im 1.4 now
#1291 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> JonathanS:
#1292 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> I'm afk
#1293 [13:16] <Thoatt|afk> I can't hear you
#1294 [13:16] <aetherian> o.o
#1295 [13:17] <JonathanS> can you come on my server?
#1296 [13:17] <JonathanS> oh
#1297 [13:17] <JonathanS> lol
#1298 [13:17] <Thoatt|afk> I /could/, but will I? Probably not.. i wanna superspam xale's services
#1299 [13:17] <Thoatt|afk> xales'*
#1300 [13:17] <xales> oh
#1301 [13:17] <xales> derp
#1302 [13:17] <xales> what do you mean stress test? lol
#1303 [13:18] <Thoatt|afk> hehe...
#1304 [13:18] <xales> Kealper already flooded it with 200 clients
#1305 [13:18] <Thoatt|afk> Do you have a console for the services?
#1306 [13:18] <Thoatt|afk> 200?
#1307 [13:18] <Thoatt|afk> weak..
#1308 [13:18] <Thoatt|afk> weak brah.. weak
#1309 [13:18] <JonathanS> so youre afk huh.....
#1310 [13:18] <Thoatt|afk> you're
#1311 [13:18] <Thoatt|afk> And yes, I'm afk.
#1312 [13:19] <xales> I have a console, but it doesn't allow me to do anything
#1313 [13:19] <xales> just observe it's interactions
#1314 [13:20] <Thoatt|afk> kk.. that's all you need :)
#1315 [13:20] <Thoatt|afk> is it in there?
#1316 [13:20] <aetherian> JonathanS: he's afk, of course, he's using a speech to text program :D
#1317 [13:20] <JonathanS> oh
#1318 [13:20] <Thoatt|afk> natural leaf
#1319 [13:20] <Thoatt|afk> nature leak
#1320 [13:20] <Thoatt|afk> naturally
#1321 [13:21] <Thoatt|afk> there it blows
#1322 [13:21] <Kealper> huh?
#1323 [13:21] <Thoatt|afk> xales
#1324 [13:21] <xales> wut
#1325 [13:21] <Thoatt|afk> (simulating STT interpretation fail)
#1326 [13:21] <xales> no :< I'm busy
#1327 [13:21] <Thoatt|afk> xales: ._.
#1328 [13:21] <Thoatt|afk> hurreh
#1329 [13:22] <Thoatt|afk> lemme know when u haz something something something
#1330 [13:22] <Thoatt|afk> can you tell I'm tired?
#1331 [13:22] <aetherian> Thoatt|afk: somewhat.
#1332 [13:22] <Kealper> what are you trying to stress teset?
#1333 [13:22] <Kealper> test*
#1334 [13:22] <xales> Kealper: the kchat services
#1335 [13:22] <Thoatt|afk> something...
#1336 [13:22] <Kealper> oh
#1337 [13:22] <Thoatt|afk> my penis? no no no.. not that... something services something something
#1338 [13:23] <Kealper> uhh....you arn't trying on the default port, are you?
#1339 [13:23] <Thoatt|afk> ... obviously not.
#1340 [13:23] * Kealper looks at kchat
#1340 [13:23] <Thoatt|afk> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a tick...
#1341 [13:23] <Thoatt|afk> yeah
#1342 [13:23] <Thoatt|afk> wait wut?
#1343 [13:23] <Kealper> eh?
#1344 [13:23] <Thoatt|afk> that's what I'm talking about..
#1345 [13:23] <Thoatt|afk> what are you talking about xales? kchat services right?
#1346 [13:23] * JonathanS wonderes why thoatts afk...
#1346 [13:23] <Thoatt|afk> because I'm sleeping
#1347 [13:24] <Kealper> yeah, he's talking about kchat services
#1348 [13:24] <Kealper> but it's on 110 not 100
#1349 [13:24] <Thoatt|afk> Yes I know.. lol
#1350 [13:24] <Thoatt|afk> I'm in there
#1351 [13:24] <Thoatt|afk> he needs to get in here
#1352 [13:24] <JonathanS> when r u not gonna be afk?
#1353 [13:24] <Thoatt|afk> when I wake up
#1354 [13:24] <JonathanS> seriously
#1355 [13:24] <Thoatt|afk> seriously.
#1356 [13:25] <JonathanS> u cant chat while sleeping
#1357 [13:25] <aetherian> he can, obviously.
#1358 [13:25] <Thoatt|afk> I can... can't you?
#1359 [13:25] <JonathanS> wha?
#1360 [13:25] <JonathanS> how is that possible
#1361 [13:25] <JonathanS> if ur sleeping ur dreamin
#1362 [13:25] <Thoatt|afk> This is sleeptalking/TTS software at work!
#1363 [13:25] <aetherian> which would explain the incoherence.
#1364 [13:26] <JonathanS> ok im 13 but not that stupid..
#1365 [13:26] <Thoatt|afk> This chat session brought to you by Dragon Naturally Speaking Pro©
#1366 [13:27] * xales slaps Thoatt|afk around a bit with the U.S.S. Enterprise-J
#1366 [13:27] <aetherian> ow...?
#1367 [13:27] <JonathanS> can you help me?
#1368 [13:27] * Irc2g0 [Irc2g0@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1369 [13:27] <JonathanS> since ur obvioulsy on this chat
#1370 [13:27] <aetherian> who
#1371 [13:27] <Thoatt|afk> me?
#1372 [13:27] <JonathanS> yep
#1373 [13:28] <Thoatt|afk> potatoes!
#1374 [13:28] <Thoatt|afk> Kartoffeln!
#1375 [13:28] <aetherian> rosti :D
#1376 [13:28] <Thoatt|afk> Pantalones!
#1377 [13:28] <JonathanS> mossultoff
#1378 [13:28] <JonathanS> :D
#1379 [13:29] <Irc2g0> anyone knows how to fix client-sided lagg?
#1380 [13:29] <aetherian> define: client sided lagg
#1381 [13:29] <Irc2g0> lagg/half loads/delay
#1382 [13:29] <Kealper> Irc2g0: choppy movement or delayed actions?
#1383 [13:30] <Irc2g0> laggy movement, and delayed actions
#1384 [13:30] <Thoatt|afk> Ich schwore offizier! Es gab ein feuer in mein hosen un ich habe versucht, es zu loschen!
#1385 [13:30] <JonathanS> bonjour
#1386 [13:30] <Kealper> technically
#1387 [13:30] <aetherian> JonathanS: bonjour
#1388 [13:30] <JonathanS> como vatu?
#1389 [13:30] <Kealper> that's an offense that could get you removed from the network
#1390 [13:30] <JonathanS> (dont know how to spell)
#1391 [13:30] <Thoatt|afk> what could?
#1392 [13:31] <Thoatt|afk> oh
#1393 [13:31] <Kealper> impersonation
#1394 [13:31] <Thoatt|afk> i c wut u did there
#1395 [13:31] <Irc2g0> But kealper, u know how to fix it?
#1396 [13:31] <aetherian> wha
#1397 [13:31] <JonathanS> can you help me thoatt?
#1398 [13:31] <Irc2g0> already tried several things, like downloading gamebooster, putting details lower
#1399 [13:31] <Irc2g0> etc
#1400 [13:31] <Thoatt|afk> I make one joke in german, and no one here speaks enough german to lol at it
#1401 [13:31] <Notch> im jewish
#1402 [13:32] * Kealper kicked Notch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Notch)
#1403 [13:32] <Thoatt|afk> !kick stop that
#1404 [13:32] <Thoatt|afk> fail
#1405 [13:32] <aetherian> fail fail
#1406 [13:32] <Thoatt|afk> I'm so damn tired lol
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#1408 [13:32] <aetherian> what time is it, thoatt?
#1409 [13:32] <Thoatt|afk> 1:32
#1410 [13:32] <Thoatt|afk> pm
#1411 [13:32] <Irc2g0> No one knows how to fix client-sided lagg?
#1412 [13:32] <Kealper> Irc2g0: in multiplayer?
#1413 [13:33] <Thoatt|afk> xales:
#1414 [13:33] <Kealper> Irc2g0: or single player?
#1415 [13:33] <aetherian> what are your computer sp- or right, sp or mp...
#1416 [13:33] <Irc2g0> multiplayer
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#1418 [13:33] <Irc2g0> on my own server
#1419 [13:33] <Thoatt|afk> Irc2g0: on all servers?
#1420 [13:33] <Irc2g0> not rlly
#1421 [13:33] <Irc2g0> most time it's just on mines
#1422 [13:33] <Thoatt|afk> It's probably a pancake i nyout intertube pipe, make sure they are clean.
#1423 [13:33] <xales> If it's only on your own server, then your computer isn't fast enough to run a server
#1424 [13:33] <Thoatt|afk> +1
#1425 [13:33] * Essentials2971 [Essentials2971@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1426 [13:33] <Tanjoodo_iPod> ^
#1427 [13:33] <Irc2g0> well, wake ago it runned with 6 ppl without any lagg
#1428 [13:34] <Irc2g0> week ago*
#1429 [13:34] <Thoatt|afk> xales: join the alt kchat for a sec
#1430 [13:34] <xales> Thoatt|afk: can't
#1431 [13:34] <aetherian> oh god
#1432 [13:34] <Thoatt|afk> xales: whai?
#1433 [13:34] <xales> not on Windoez
#1434 [13:34] <JonathanS> hey thoatt
#1435 [13:34] <Thoatt|afk> xales: <James May> oh cock</>
#1436 [13:34] <Thoatt|afk> xales: but you see the services console?
#1437 [13:34] <Irc2g0> Xales: week ago it runned with 6 ppl, without any lagg
#1438 [13:34] <Thoatt|afk> err... output*
#1439 [13:35] <JonathanS> whn can you help me?
#1440 [13:35] <Thoatt|afk> JonathanS: in about 15 hours when I get home from work.
#1441 [13:35] <JonathanS> what?
#1442 [13:35] <Kealper> Irc2g0: so it worked fine before the 1.4 update?
#1443 [13:35] <Irc2g0> yep
#1444 [13:36] <Irc2g0> but in SP its all good, no lagg, no delays
#1445 [13:36] <Thoatt|afk> I'm afk right now in bed, I'll have to sleep for a while, get up, go to work, then come home
#1446 [13:36] <Kealper> hmm...is it only you that lags? or does everyone on it lag?
#1447 [13:36] <Thoatt|afk> Irc2g0: Are you connecting to your external or internal ip?
#1448 [13:36] <JonathanS> why dont u sleep?
#1449 [13:36] <Thoatt|afk> JonathanS: As said before, I am.
#1450 [13:36] <Irc2g0> external
#1451 [13:36] <Thoatt|afk> Irc2g0: does it lag when connected to internal?
#1452 [13:36] <Irc2g0> an hamachi one though
#1453 [13:36] <JonathanS> dude cmon
#1454 [13:37] <JonathanS> u cant be sleeping
#1455 [13:37] <Irc2g0> tried with the 127.0.0.1 ip, and still lagged
#1456 [13:37] <Thoatt|afk> JonathanS: dude.. I'm remote desktopping with a fuckin' ipod.. what do you need.
#1457 [13:37] <Kealper> Irc2g0: try seeing if you lag on the server smp.shadow-craft.net
#1458 [13:37] <JonathanS> oh
#1459 [13:37] <JonathanS> couldve said that
#1460 [13:37] <Irc2g0> im not lagging on any other servers
#1461 [13:37] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Thoatt|afk: Instead of remote desktopping, just download and IRC app
#1462 [13:37] <Irc2g0> already tried with some servers of some friends
#1463 [13:37] <Thoatt|afk> I said a few times that I was in bed.
#1464 [13:37] <JonathanS> then why are you on this chat?
#1465 [13:38] <Kealper> Irc2g0: oh, well then...what are your computer specs?
#1466 [13:38] <JonathanS> i thought with a laptop
#1467 [13:38] <Irc2g0> sec, got a screen of it
#1468 [13:38] <Thoatt|afk> Tanjoodo_iPod: NO good irc apps are out there for free, and I'm not paying for something I'd use very rarly.
#1469 [13:38] <Tanjoodo_iPod> True.
#1470 [13:38] <aetherian> there's no telnet app for free on the ipod?
#1471 [13:38] <Thoatt|afk> nein.
#1472 [13:38] <Thoatt|afk> nor ssh
#1473 [13:38] <Thoatt|afk> for free
#1474 [13:38] <Kealper> :/
#1475 [13:38] <Irc2g0> http://www.plaatjesupload.nl/bekijk/2011/04/06/1302095227-250.png
#1476 [13:38] <aetherian> D:
#1477 [13:38] <aetherian> Thoatt|afk: make one :D
#1478 [13:39] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Thoatt|afk: MobileTerminal
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#1480 [13:39] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Ssh app
#1481 [13:39] <Thoatt|afk> aetherian: C#: FTS
#1482 [13:39] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Free.
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#1484 [13:39] <Irc2g0> I know, its a pentium
#1485 [13:39] <Kealper> it's Objective-C :/
#1486 [13:39] <aetherian> surprised you can't telnet from ipod with a free app...
#1487 [13:39] <Thoatt|afk> It's a gui terminal emulator.. it's crap
#1488 [13:40] <Kealper> Irc2g0: hmm, that should be running it fine...try setting the process priority to "Above Normal" in task manager for the server process
#1489 [13:40] <xwildboarx> getting 'failed to login: bad login' when try to connect to my own server. Port forward checks ok and server running with no warnings. Any ideas?
#1490 [13:40] <Irc2g0> how u mean?
#1491 [13:41] <xales> xwildboarx: what username are you connecting with?
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#1493 [13:41] <Kealper> xwildboarx: as a quick test, stop your server, open server.properties and change online-mode to false, and start it again
#1494 [13:41] <Kealper> also... xwildboarx you can connect to other servers, right?
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#1496 [13:42] <xwildboarx> sorry...just catching up
#1497 [13:42] <Kealper> Irc2g0: ok, easier test than that....does anyone lag when you are not playing minecraft and they are on your server?
#1498 [13:42] <xwildboarx> yes can connect online with username xwildboarx to any online server
#1499 [13:42] <xwildboarx> have tried to create my own
#1500 [13:42] <Irc2g0> other ppl lagg aswell on it
#1501 [13:42] <xwildboarx> tried connecting to 'local host' and using IP both fail
#1502 [13:42] <Kealper> Irc2g0: even when you do not have minecraft running?
#1503 [13:42] <xwildboarx> gonna try server.properties change... just a mo
#1504 [13:42] <Irc2g0> less lagg when im not on minecraft
#1505 [13:43] <Thoatt|afk> simple fix Irc2g0, re-install linux.
#1506 [13:43] <Kealper> eh? did he said he had linux? :/
#1507 [13:44] <Thoatt|afk> Nope
#1508 [13:44] <Irc2g0> <-- using windows =P
#1509 [13:44] <Irc2g0> but i might switch over to linux
#1510 [13:44] <Thoatt|afk> Like I said.
#1511 [13:44] <Irc2g0> already thought about it
#1512 [13:44] <xwildboarx> Im OSX
#1513 [13:44] <Kealper> re-install implies that he had it, and switched to something else :/
#1514 [13:44] <Thoatt|afk> DId you seriously not get the joke kealper? lol
#1515 [13:44] <Kealper> i didn't....
#1516 [13:44] <Irc2g0> btw, lagg is already less
#1517 [13:44] <Irc2g0> by changing the priority to above normal
#1518 [13:45] <xwildboarx> YES!!!!
#1519 [13:45] <xwildboarx> Thanks Kealper
#1520 [13:45] <Kealper> xwildboarx: that worked?
#1521 [13:45] <xwildboarx> brilliant
#1522 [13:45] <Kealper> xwildboarx: well...that means there is a bigger underlying problem
#1523 [13:45] <Thoatt|afk> It's not a perminant fix though
#1524 [13:45] <xwildboarx> oh dear
#1525 [13:45] <xwildboarx> ok
#1526 [13:45] <Kealper> xwildboarx: if you want, you can keep using the duct-tape fix though lol
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#1528 [13:46] <Thoatt|afk> Sadly, to resolve it, you need to have 3/4 of your live and 1.5 kidneys removed.
#1529 [13:46] <Thoatt|afk> liver*
#1530 [13:46] <xwildboarx> lol
#1531 [13:47] <xwildboarx> is it really serious? I am helping my son sort this out... so be kind... I dont know anything about this game
#1532 [13:47] <Kealper> xwildboarx: just make sure to ban the username "Player" (without quotes) from your server if you are going to keep running in offline mode
#1533 [13:47] <Kealper> xwildboarx: so just type ban Player into your server console
#1534 [13:47] * BrunoTheDwarf [BrunoTheDwarf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1535 [13:47] <xwildboarx> does offline mose allow his friends to connect?
#1536 [13:47] <Kealper> yes
#1537 [13:47] <Thoatt|afk> yes
#1538 [13:47] <xwildboarx> brilliant
#1539 [13:48] <Kealper> offline mode means the server will not verify that usernames are actually legit and paid for
#1540 [13:48] <Thoatt|afk> do you have a firewall?
#1541 [13:48] <xwildboarx> yes
#1542 [13:48] <Thoatt|afk> make sure minecraft has access to minecraft.net then
#1543 [13:48] <xwildboarx> where do I ban username Player?
#1544 [13:48] <Thoatt|afk> in the console
#1545 [13:48] <BrunoTheDwarf> hello does anyone know of a way to get minecraft to work with the newer/newest AMD fglrx linux drivers?
#1546 [13:48] <Thoatt|afk> 'ban Player'
#1547 [13:48] <xales> BrunoTheDwarf: It should work fine, but some cards reportedly don't function at all
#1548 [13:49] <Irc2g0> hmm, its possible to have ubuntu on a USB right?
#1549 [13:49] <aetherian> yes
#1550 [13:49] <xales> possible? yes. good idea for daily use? no
#1551 [13:49] <BrunoTheDwarf> yeah I have that problem xales - I can use it just fine with fglrx 10-4 no problems
#1552 [13:49] <BrunoTheDwarf> with my amd 4850 card
#1553 [13:49] <aetherian> xales: it's good for portable linux (if you /must/ use ubuntu)
#1554 [13:49] <BrunoTheDwarf> newer driver causes LWJGL to crash out
#1555 [13:50] <Thoatt|afk> good idea for daily use? How much do you enjoy hot sticks? #unnessesarydoubleentendre
#1556 [13:50] <Kealper> aetherian: it'll kill the flashdrive fast though
#1557 [13:50] <aetherian> Kealper: details
#1558 [13:50] <Thoatt|afk> BrunoTheDwarf: try updating the lwjgl then.
#1559 [13:50] <Kealper> aetherian: the type of memory used in flash drives and SSDs have a limited number of tmies they can be rewritten
#1560 [13:50] <Thoatt|afk> http://lwjgl.org/download.php
#1561 [13:50] <BrunoTheDwarf> I've tried that already Thoatt|afk
#1562 [13:51] <aetherian> for portable linux, ubuntu is likely one of the worst choices :)
#1563 [13:51] <Kealper> aetherian: after that it will fail to write, and the drive becomes read-only
#1564 [13:51] <xwildboarx> thank you all :) bye
#1565 [13:51] <Thoatt|afk> kbai
#1566 [13:51] <aetherian> Kealper: I got that already
#1567 [13:51] <BrunoTheDwarf> its an issue with the AMD drivers - or possibly an xorg.conf configuration issue
#1568 [13:51] <xales> Kealper: It's Random Question Of The Day time! :o
#1569 [13:51] <Irc2g0> whats the best portable linux then?
#1570 [13:51] <Thoatt|afk> BrunoTheDwarf: what error do you get?
#1571 [13:51] <Kealper> xales: \o/
#1572 [13:51] <xales> Irc2g0: If you want portable? Put it on an external hard drive
#1573 [13:51] <BrunoTheDwarf> I was hoping someone that had it working with the newer drivers would be able to help me work out a fix / workaround
#1574 [13:51] <aetherian> Irc2g0: I'd probably use a modified version of tiny core linux :)
#1575 [13:51] <Thoatt|afk> xales: do you.. have...... view of the services interactions atm?
#1576 [13:51] <BrunoTheDwarf> Irc2g0, I'd recommend slax
#1577 [13:51] <xales> BrunoTheDwarf: you might try the forum...
#1578 [13:52] <xales> Thoatt|afk: services are not running right now
#1579 [13:52] <Irc2g0> slax, imma check :) thanks
#1580 [13:52] <aetherian> what, just ignore me?
#1581 [13:52] <aetherian> ;_;
#1582 [13:52] <BrunoTheDwarf> Thoatt|afk, java dump errors
#1583 [13:52] <Thoatt|afk> Irc2g0: custom rolled linux kernel, only load exactly what's needed for minecraft, takes up about 40 mb.
#1584 [13:52] <Kealper> lol
#1585 [13:52] <Thoatt|afk> xales: rundempl0x
#1586 [13:52] <BrunoTheDwarf> would you mind pointing me in the right direction xales ?
#1587 [13:53] <xales> BrunoTheDwarf: minecraftforum.net
#1588 [13:53] <Irc2g0> is it pissible to have it on a CD aswell?
#1589 [13:53] <Irc2g0> possible*
#1590 [13:53] <xales> Irc2g0: Not really
#1591 [13:53] <xales> You can't install it to a CD
#1592 [13:53] <xales> well
#1593 [13:53] <xales> "install"
#1594 [13:53] <Thoatt|afk> yes, as long as you have a hdd for the persistant image
#1595 [13:53] <Thoatt|afk> use livecd, save session
#1596 [13:53] <xales> ^if you don't know what that means, don't do it
#1597 [13:53] <Thoatt|afk> +1
#1598 [13:53] <Irc2g0> hmm okay,, might just get an external hard drive
#1599 [13:54] <aetherian> why do you need this again?
#1600 [13:54] <Thoatt|afk> it's just a fix, you don't need another hdd
#1601 [13:54] <Thoatt|afk> aetherian: cuz windoze is the devil
#1602 [13:54] <Thoatt|afk> aka: his server lags when he+ a few peeps are on it
#1603 [13:54] <aetherian> Thoatt|afk: then why doesn't he install linux on the main hard drive?
#1604 [13:55] <Thoatt|afk> aetherian: ask him...
#1605 [13:55] * Thoatt|afk is not a mind reader
#1605 [13:55] <aetherian> psst, Irc2g0, why not install linux on your actual hard drive?
#1606 [13:55] <Thoatt|afk> aetherian: he doesn't want to.
#1607 [13:55] <Thoatt|afk> olawd.. I guess I am a mind reader.
#1608 [13:55] <Thoatt|afk> perhaps a...
#1609 [13:55] <Thoatt|afk> A WIZARD!
#1610 [13:55] <Irc2g0> psst, cuz i still need windows 7 on my computer
#1611 [13:55] <aetherian> Thoatt|afk: ...
#1612 [13:55] <Irc2g0> for school
#1613 [13:55] <Thoatt|afk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpCrj9Ysyjo&t=4s
#1614 [13:56] <aetherian> Irc2g0: dualboot for da win :D
#1615 [13:56] <Irc2g0> and whats that? =P
#1616 [13:56] <xales> Irc2g0: just use Wubi
#1617 [13:56] <xales> derp.
#1618 [13:56] <oldtopmanserver> Irc2g0: Get Puppy linux and install java (Sometimes called "OpenJDK")
#1619 [13:56] <Thoatt|afk> NEIN
#1620 [13:56] <aetherian> NYET
#1621 [13:56] <Thoatt|afk> no openjdk >.>
#1622 [13:56] <xales> Irc2g0: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
#1623 [13:56] <aetherian> wubi < hard drive install
#1624 [13:57] <oldtopmanserver> Irc2g0: Upon shutown, it will ask for you to amke a file
#1625 [13:57] <oldtopmanserver> Safest way.
#1626 [13:57] <aetherian> OpenJDK for the fail D:
#1627 [13:57] <oldtopmanserver> aetherian: ikr
#1628 [13:57] <oldtopmanserver> But pupy also has the full java
#1629 [13:59] <Thoatt|afk> reroll custom linux with ntfs support, only install java, dual-boot, no re-partitions needed. ??? Profit!
#1630 [14:00] <Thoatt|afk> xales!... how many times must I poke you!
#1631 [14:00] <Thoatt|afk> start services pl0x
#1632 [14:00] <xales> wut
#1633 [14:00] <xales> no
#1634 [14:00] <Thoatt|afk> ._.
#1635 [14:00] <Irc2g0> well thanks for the help :)
#1636 [14:00] <Thoatt|afk> why not?
#1637 [14:00] <Irc2g0> off for now, c yas ;)
#1638 [14:00] <Thoatt|afk> cya Irc2g0
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#1640 [14:01] <Thoatt|afk> ok well then...
#1641 [14:01] <Thoatt|afk> I guess I'll just spam the crap out of kealper then...
#1642 [14:01] <Kealper> wut
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#1644 [14:03] <NotiCon> now that was odd
#1645 [14:03] <NotiCon> somehow when i reentered my saved world i spawned below the floor
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#1647 [14:04] <Thoatt|afk> lol kealper
#1648 [14:05] <Thoatt|afk> how u doin? lol
#1649 [14:05] <Kealper> that spam is intense lol
#1650 [14:05] <Thoatt|afk> xD
#1651 [14:06] <Thoatt|afk> That's only like... 100 ish
#1652 [14:06] <Kealper> i can't be still connected, am i?
#1653 [14:06] <Thoatt|afk> something like that
#1654 [14:06] <Thoatt|afk> what is the max for the server?
#1655 [14:06] <Thoatt|afk> you are
#1656 [14:06] <Kealper> oh wow, it's still responding to pings
#1657 [14:06] <Thoatt|afk> but the latency to the chat server spiked to 1.5s
#1658 [14:06] <Kealper> max for that server is 100 i think
#1659 [14:06] <Thoatt|afk> what is the max for the server? ( connected )
#1660 [14:06] <Kealper> do /cmd stats
#1661 [14:06] <Thoatt|afk> connections*
#1662 [14:07] <Kealper> it will tell you the total connections it allows
#1663 [14:07] <Thoatt|afk> I can't
#1664 [14:07] <Thoatt|afk> doesn't let me auth lol
#1665 [14:07] <Thoatt|afk> 6.2 seconds
#1666 [14:07] <aetherian> ping pong
#1667 [14:07] <Thoatt|afk> 25 second pings
#1668 [14:07] * mib_n5m13v [mib_n5m13v@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1669 [14:07] <Thoatt|afk> 10
#1670 [14:08] <Kealper> 25 sec for you? or /pinging me?
#1671 [14:08] <Thoatt|afk> sec
#1672 [14:08] <Thoatt|afk> ping = unknown
#1673 [14:08] <Thoatt|afk> lol
#1674 [14:08] <Kealper> but i mean is that in the top of your client or pinging me? lol
#1675 [14:08] <Thoatt|afk> 12 second latency though
#1676 [14:08] <Thoatt|afk> top
#1677 [14:08] <Kealper> wow lol
#1678 [14:09] <Thoatt|afk> still spamming I think...
#1679 [14:09] * Thoatt|afk closes out of them
#1679 [14:09] <Thoatt|afk> what is the root pass?
#1680 [14:09] <Kealper> derp
#1681 [14:09] <NotiCon> 1234?
#1682 [14:09] <mib_n5m13v> hello, i just popped in, i do hope im not being rude and interrupting anyone. some local friends and are renting a SMP server, we have been since about 1.3 release, and with no problems. recently, as of 1.4 release, we cannot use buckets. cant place water/lava (just disappears) cant open doors/chests/etc if we are holding a bucket, and cant hurt things
#1683 [14:10] <mib_n5m13v> and to be clear, this is for all of us, not just 1 player.
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#1685 [14:11] <Thoatt|afk> kealper. lol
#1686 [14:11] <xales> mib_n5m13v: are you using any mods?
#1687 [14:11] <Thoatt|afk> still getting spam?
#1688 [14:11] <Kealper> Thoatt|afk: just finished
#1689 [14:11] <Thoatt|afk> nice
#1690 [14:11] <Thoatt|afk> lol
#1691 [14:11] <xales> Kealper: what did he do? ._.
#1692 [14:11] <Thoatt|afk> brought my spambots in
#1693 [14:12] <mib_n5m13v> @ xales this occurs both with no mods and with the only mod we use (/home)
#1694 [14:12] <xales> mib_n5m13v: have you tried reinstalling the server?
#1695 [14:12] * Zidonuke [Zidonuke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1696 [14:12] <mib_n5m13v> would that wipe our world?
#1697 [14:12] <xales> I don't know
#1698 [14:13] <xales> it depends on how the company you are renting it from sets it up
#1699 [14:13] <xales> you are probably better off putting in a support ticket, actually
#1700 [14:13] <xales> Thoatt|afk: I'm about to abuse Services to do mean things to you
#1701 [14:13] <xales> :>
#1702 [14:13] <xales> owned!
#1703 [14:13] <mib_n5m13v> ah, im not the one running it, im just the annoyed guy with a 30 floor mob trap that i cant put water in ahaha. i'll have to ask my friend (admin)
#1704 [14:14] <Thoatt|afk> xales: don't make me have my bots pimpslap your services
#1705 [14:14] <xales> Thoatt|afk: Don't make me have services do wildcard kicks
#1706 [14:14] <xales> :3
#1707 [14:15] <mib_n5m13v> have any of you heard of this problem before? the only person to answer on the forums said itw as most likely an issue with lag between the client and teh server, but then it wouldnt be present for everyone all the time suddenly after a patch would it?
#1708 [14:15] <xales> Never. It's probably something with the company you are renting the server from
#1709 [14:15] <Thoatt|afk> rofl
#1710 [14:15] <Thoatt|afk> did you do that?
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#1713 [14:16] <Thoatt|afk> xales: did you make the services netsplit? lol
#1714 [14:16] <xales> yes
#1715 [14:16] <xales> so i could do that
#1716 [14:16] <xales> :>
#1717 [14:17] <xales> Kealper: does NETRBAN actually work?
#1718 [14:17] <Kealper> yes it's implemented fully
#1719 [14:17] <xales> \o/
#1720 [14:17] <xales> just NETRBAN | name?
#1721 [14:17] <surfhai> how can I controll the direction of rails?
#1722 [14:18] <Kealper> NETRBAN | name or address | 1 or 0, 1 to add, 0 to remove
#1723 [14:19] <Thoatt|afk> xales: :>
#1724 [14:19] <xales> Thoatt|afk: I can still win :>
#1725 [14:19] <Thoatt|afk> I can still spam the crap outta it lol
#1726 [14:20] <Kealper> [14:20:04] Ping reply from Kealper: 2974ms <-- \o/
#1727 [14:20] <Thoatt|afk> I need a better computer...
#1728 [14:20] <mib_n5m13v> thanks xales, i'll have our admin speak with the server hosting company. im just surprised our server is the only one like this :P
#1729 [14:20] <Thoatt|afk> to run.. moar...
#1730 [14:21] <Thoatt|afk> also, this isn't one program lol...
#1731 [14:21] <Thoatt|afk> well, this isn't one program running seperate connections.
#1732 [14:21] <Thoatt|afk> redundancy ftw!
#1733 [14:21] <xales> dammit
#1734 [14:21] <xales> it didn't work
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#1736 [14:22] <Wbandon> Hello!
#1737 [14:22] <xales> Hi
#1738 [14:23] <xales> Thoatt|afk: owned.
#1739 [14:23] <xales> Network joins 254189955
#1740 [14:23] <xales> Issued NETRBAN for 254189955
#1741 [14:23] <xales> Issued KILL for 254189955: Fuck off Thoatt
#1742 [14:23] <Wbandon> To who I have to talk to, to get refund?
#1743 [14:23] <Wbandon> I saw FAQ
#1744 [14:23] <Wbandon> I have the game since 2 days.
#1745 [14:23] <xales> Wbandon: payment@mojang.com
#1746 [14:23] <xales> You can only get the refund if it does not work for you
#1747 [14:23] <xales> not because you do not like it
#1748 [14:23] <Wbandon> Yeah it doesn't work
#1749 [14:23] <Wbandon> I can't get it working on my PC
#1750 [14:24] <xales> Have you tried fixing it? :P
#1751 [14:24] <aetherian> maybe we can help fix it :D
#1752 [14:24] <Wbandon> I tried
#1753 [14:24] <Wbandon> I have friend that play it
#1754 [14:24] <Wbandon> But nothing ..
#1755 [14:24] <xales> Why exactly does it not work?
#1756 [14:24] <Wbandon> I don't know
#1757 [14:24] <xales> Rather
#1758 [14:24] <xales> What happens that makes it "not work"
#1759 [14:24] <xales> What does it do when you try to play it
#1760 [14:24] <Wbandon> When I go in the game it exit the game
#1761 [14:24] <Wbandon> Always
#1762 [14:25] <xales> Is there an error?
#1763 [14:25] <Wbandon> No
#1764 [14:25] <Wbandon> Just exit
#1765 [14:25] <xales> Have you tried playing in the browser?
#1766 [14:25] <Wbandon> Yes
#1767 [14:25] <Wbandon> But the same
#1768 [14:25] <Wbandon> It exit the browser
#1769 [14:25] <Wbandon> ..
#1770 [14:25] <aetherian> heh
#1771 [14:25] * Uristthegreat [Uristthegreat@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1772 [14:25] <Wbandon> I tried in Chrome, Firefox, IE
#1773 [14:25] <xales> Do you have Java installed?
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#1775 [14:26] <Wbandon> Yes
#1776 [14:26] <xales> Have you tried reinstalling it?
#1777 [14:26] <Wbandon> Bye I have to go
#1778 [14:26] <Wbandon> Thank you
#1779 [14:26] <xales> durr
#1780 [14:26] * aetherian laughs
#1780 [14:26] <aetherian> it exits the browser... oh, classic
#1781 [14:27] <xales> Thoatt|afk: was it kicking the phppenises? :P
#1782 [14:27] <xales> it should be kicking anything with more than three numbers in it
#1783 [14:27] <xales> lol
#1784 [14:28] <Thoatt|afk> it was missing a lot of them xD
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#1786 [14:30] <Agrajag> Hey, does anyone know if server 1.4_01 will work with the current build of bukkit?
#1787 [14:30] <Thoatt|afk> client, yes.
#1788 [14:30] <Thoatt|afk> server, not sure
#1789 [14:31] <Agrajag> Hmm... I think I'll give it a go
#1790 [14:32] <Thoatt|afk> Yes it works.
#1791 [14:32] <Agrajag> Oh cool, thanks
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#1796 [14:43] <zelda> I'm not sure if anyone here can help, but in trying to fix an opengl error with minecraft, I replaced on of my system32 files, and now minecraft runs, but I can't see or do anything, further more, it usto run fine in browser but no longer does, anyone know what I should do
#1797 [14:43] <Adam1337> HEllo, Can anyone help me!/
#1798 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> Adam1337 ask
#1799 [14:44] <VoxelHead> Adam1337: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1800 [14:44] <VoxelHead> Adam1337: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1801 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> zelda: sounds like you wanged your video drivers. Try reinstalling them?
#1802 [14:45] <Adam1337> i need help
#1803 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> Meddle not in the affairs of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32, for Windows is a fragile house of cards, constructed in a wind tunnel.
#1804 [14:45] <Adam1337> I get this error Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 --------
#1805 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> ?? Adam1337
#1806 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> Adam1337 pastebin
#1807 [14:45] <VoxelHead> Adam1337: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#1808 [14:46] <VoxelHead> Adam1337: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#1809 [14:46] <Adam1337> OK hold on
#1810 [14:46] <Adam1337> http://pastebin.com/hjtAKTGA < that error
#1811 [14:47] <Thoatt|sleep> ??> Adam1337 win/reinst
#1812 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Adam1337: looks like you have another 3D Java app running
#1813 [14:47] <VoxelHead> Adam1337: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1814 [14:47] <VoxelHead> Adam1337: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1815 [14:47] <Adam1337> I'm on Ubunto how to do that?
#1816 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Thoatt|sleep: /me points at "OS: Linux"
#1817 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> ?? linux/reinst
#1818 [14:47] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1819 [14:47] <VoxelHead> linux/reinst: To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#1820 [14:47] <Thoatt|sleep> shh! I'm sleeping
#1821 [14:47] <Thoatt|sleep> >.<
#1822 [14:48] <zelda> OK, I just went to the official website for my video driver and it says I have the latest drivers, how do I force it to reinstall the drivers?
#1823 [14:48] <Thoatt|sleep> uninstall them, then reinstall
#1824 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> zelda: uninstall and resintall?
#1825 [14:49] * jesperrula [jesperrula@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1826 [14:49] <jesperrula> hi
#1827 [14:50] <jesperrula> I try to log on but keep getting throttling message. what can I do?
#1828 [14:50] <jesperrula> tried for an hour now :|
#1829 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> jesperrula: "throttling message"?
#1830 [14:50] * dr_bibble [dr_bibble@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1831 [14:50] <dr_bibble> http://pastebin.com/hjtAKTGA <-- HOw do i fix?
#1832 [14:50] <jesperrula> 1sec... I'll find the exact wording...
#1833 [14:51] <jesperrula> ha. of course it works now :D
#1834 [14:51] <Thoatt|sleep> Don't worry, it'll be back when you aren't in here :)
#1835 [14:52] <jesperrula> lol
#1836 [14:52] <jesperrula> thanks though
#1837 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> dr_bibble: looks like you already have a 3D Java app running, of which you can only have one at a time
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#1839 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> dr_bibble: alternatively, try this:
#1840 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> dr_bibble linux/reinst
#1841 [14:52] <VoxelHead> dr_bibble: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1842 [14:52] <dr_bibble> How do i fix that?
#1843 [14:52] <VoxelHead> dr_bibble: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#1844 [14:53] <dr_bibble> I put that command and nothing happened
#1845 [14:54] <Braeburn> I have a huge problem. I am running just a local server that only me and my friend plays on. We are connecting through Hamachi and everything has been fine up until now. When we play together, my "character" gets stuck on his screen and does nothing whilst I actually move around and do stuff. I have no problem seeing his character getting stuck though ...
#1846 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> dr_bibble: nothing will appear to.
#1847 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> Braeburn fubar/hamachi
#1848 [14:54] <VoxelHead> Braeburn: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1849 [14:54] <VoxelHead> Braeburn: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1850 [14:54] <dr_bibble> Ok my mc is updating
#1851 [14:55] <Braeburn> Can anyone give me a quick advice on how to host a server in another way other than hamachi?
#1852 [14:55] <dr_bibble> I got the same error
#1853 [14:55] <Braeburn> Or post a link or something, when I google on it all I get it how to set up servers via hamachi
#1854 [14:55] <Thoatt|sleep> dr_bibble: ps -a |grep java
#1855 [14:55] <Thoatt|sleep> or some thist.
#1856 [14:55] <Thoatt|sleep> ffs.. I'm tired
#1857 [14:56] * Thoatt|sleep goes back to sleep
#1857 [14:56] <aetherian> nighty night, thoey
#1858 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> Braeburn: run the server normally, and have your router forward port 25565 to your computer.
#1859 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> then have people connect to your IP
#1860 [14:56] <Braeburn> So I just start the server, and then use my computer IP to connect?
#1861 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> you'd use your internal IP; your friends would use your _external_ IP
#1862 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> ?? ip/external
#1863 [14:57] <VoxelHead> ip/external: Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
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#1865 [14:57] <dr_bibble> Still get same error
#1866 [14:57] <dr_bibble> How do i fix this !! :(
#1867 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> dr_bibble: `sudo killall -KILL java`; then try running minecraft again?
#1868 [14:59] <dr_bibble> Nope.
#1869 [14:59] <dr_bibble> Nothing
#1870 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> Hrm
#1871 [14:59] <Thoatt|sleep> reinstall your video drivers
#1872 [14:59] <dr_bibble> How? I'm on linux
#1873 [14:59] <Thoatt|sleep> and make sure they are the correct/up to date versions
#1874 [14:59] <Thoatt|sleep> what linux?
#1875 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> dr_bibble: what video card have you?
#1876 [14:59] <dr_bibble> 10/10
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#1878 [14:59] <dr_bibble> 10.10
#1879 [14:59] <Thoatt|sleep> ubuntu?
#1880 [14:59] <dr_bibble> DUnno dope
#1881 [14:59] <dr_bibble> ANd yes
#1882 [15:00] <Thoatt|sleep> top left, something something, additional drivers
#1883 [15:00] <Thoatt|sleep> look in the menus
#1884 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> System -> Administration -> Add'l Drivers
#1885 [15:00] <Thoatt|sleep> ^ what that guy said
#1886 [15:00] <dr_bibble> yep
#1887 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade`
#1888 [15:01] <dr_bibble> o
#1889 [15:01] <dr_bibble> No property drivers are used on this sytem
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#1891 [15:02] <Quickjelly> can i write here?
#1892 [15:02] <Quickjelly> oh look I can
#1893 [15:02] <Thoatt|sleep> dr_bibble: pastebin your lshw
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#1895 [15:02] <dr_bibble> lshw?
#1896 [15:02] * Thoatt|sleep thinks it might help
#1896 [15:02] <Thoatt|sleep> terminal: lshw
#1897 [15:03] <Quickjelly> I seem to be muted in #minecraft, how do I fix that?
#1898 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> _sudo_ lshw
#1899 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> ??> Quickjelly irc
#1900 [15:03] <VoxelHead> Quickjelly: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1901 [15:03] <VoxelHead> Quickjelly: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1902 [15:03] <Quickjelly> thank you guys!
#1903 [15:03] <Braeburn> Gah, where can I find "Run" on Windows 7?
#1904 [15:03] <Thoatt|sleep> Braeburn: windows key + r
#1905 [15:03] <dr_bibble> PCI (SYSFS)
#1906 [15:04] <dr_bibble> Thats all i get
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#1908 [15:04] <Thoatt|sleep> Shirley, you can't ber serious...
#1909 [15:04] <Thoatt|sleep> be*
#1910 [15:04] <dr_bibble> I'm been seriuos
#1911 [15:04] <dr_bibble> IS that bad?
#1912 [15:04] <dr_bibble> OH WAIT
#1913 [15:04] <dr_bibble> Its loaded now :D
#1914 [15:04] <Thoatt|sleep> lol
#1915 [15:05] <dr_bibble> Fail ...
#1916 [15:05] <Thoatt|sleep> cd ~/Desktop
#1917 [15:05] <Thoatt|sleep> sudo lshw > asdf.txt
#1918 [15:05] <Thoatt|sleep> >>?
#1919 [15:05] <Thoatt|sleep> something like that
#1920 [15:05] <dr_bibble> http://pastebin.com/Ea36GCeC
#1921 [15:05] * Thoatt|sleep is too tired to think
#1921 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> Thoatt|sleep: '>' means create new file or overwrite with new text; '>>' means append to the end
#1922 [15:06] <dr_bibble> SO....?
#1923 [15:06] <Thoatt|sleep> yeah yeah.. i know.. just too tired to think atm
#1924 [15:06] <Thoatt|sleep> dr_bibble: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.22.html
#1925 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> #MinecraftHelp: Thinking so you don't have to!
#1926 [15:07] <Braeburn> The IP i get from checking start-run-cmd-ipconfig doesnt match the one whatismyip shows
#1927 [15:08] <Thoatt|sleep> ipconfig shows your internal ip, WIMI shows external
#1928 [15:08] <Braeburn> Ah
#1929 [15:08] <Braeburn> Well than I´m alright I suppose
#1930 [15:08] * Thoatt|sleep passes out
#1930 [15:08] <Thoatt|sleep> forreal.. g'night
#1931 [15:08] <Braeburn> Now how do I have the router forward port 25565?
#1932 [15:09] <Braeburn> I suck at computers I must confess
#1933 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> Braeburn: http://www.portforward.com
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#1936 [15:15] <Braeburn> I gave my friend my internal IP and he succeeded to connect
#1937 [15:17] <Braeburn> We are in the same room at the moment though, I suspect that is the cause? So I guess we are still going to have trouble when we play from our houses next time
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#1941 [15:24] <AkiTensai> Kealper: I tried win/profile. javaw.exe still crashes
#1942 [15:24] <Kealper> :/
#1943 [15:25] <AkiTensai> Next step reinstall windows? >.>
#1944 [15:25] <Kealper> hmm....you said you tried CCleaner's uninstaller and that didn't work?
#1945 [15:26] <AkiTensai> Yes, and after that a round of Revo uninstaller.
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#1948 [15:26] <Kealper> have you ran it's registry fixer? it might be some left over registry entries elsewhere (HKLM or others) that the installer is seeing and thinking you still have java installed
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#1950 [15:28] <yharrow1> hello>
#1951 [15:29] <Kealper> hi
#1952 [15:29] <AkiTensai> Registry fixer with CCleaner or Revo?
#1953 [15:29] <Kealper> either
#1954 [15:29] <yharrow1> I have a fast connection, good ping (100ms) and fast computer, but there is not even one server i can connect to without being disconnected! :(
#1955 [15:30] <AkiTensai> I think so. Let me get the app open before I say yes.
#1956 [15:30] <Kealper> yharrow1: does the disconnect happen instantly? or does it wait a while before getting disconnected?
#1957 [15:30] <yharrow1> it loads a few chunks, then hangs for 5 mins
#1958 [15:30] <yharrow1> then dcs
#1959 [15:30] <Kealper> and you have tried multiple servers?
#1960 [15:31] <yharrow1> yeah
#1961 [15:31] <Kealper> and these servers work fine for other people?
#1962 [15:31] <yharrow1> ya
#1963 [15:31] <yharrow1> i reinstalled the game, adjusted my TCP/IP settins for speed
#1964 [15:31] <yharrow1> but nothing works
#1965 [15:32] <Kealper> has it ever worked for you or has multiplayer done this since you bought it?
#1966 [15:32] <yharrow1> the funny thing is that it worked 3 months ago without problem
#1967 [15:32] <Kealper> hmm....
#1968 [15:32] <Kealper> do you have any firewall or antivirus software installed?
#1969 [15:32] <AkiTensai> Kealper: Yes, I did run though the registry cleaner on CCleaner.
#1970 [15:32] <yharrow1> windows firewall and minecraft isnt being blocked
#1971 [15:33] <yharrow1> avast antivirus
#1972 [15:33] <yharrow1> it starts loading t e world and then just hangs
#1973 [15:33] <Kealper> hmm...disable avast to see if that could be interfering somehow :/
#1974 [15:33] <Kealper> AkiTensai: hmm...do you know how to open regedit?
#1975 [15:34] <yharrow1> kealper do u have any clue what could be causingmy issue? its not like net packets are blocked
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#1977 [15:34] <yharrow1> they just stop loading after 1 min
#1978 [15:34] <yharrow1> or load very slow
#1979 [15:34] <Kealper> yharrow1: i have some ideas, but some ideas are much more of a pain to fix than others
#1980 [15:35] <yharrow1> i just disabled and connected to server with 100ms ping
#1981 [15:35] <AkiTensai> Kealper: Its been a while since I've last played with that.
#1982 [15:35] <Kealper> yharrow1: but just as a check, go to http://speedtest.net and run a test there, then put the results image link in here that it gives after the test is finished
#1983 [15:35] <yharrow1> i did the speedtest already. 8mb down and 1mb up
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#1985 [15:35] <AkiTensai> Kealper: Have it open. What do I need to do?
#1986 [15:35] <Kealper> AkiTensai: start menu search bar > regedit > press enter
#1987 [15:36] <Kealper> oh
#1988 [15:36] <AkiTensai> ^.^
#1989 [15:36] <Kealper> AkiTensai: hold ctrl and press f, that should open a find window
#1990 [15:36] * AkiTensai nods.
#1990 [15:37] <yharrow1> ok not working
#1991 [15:37] <Kealper> AkiTensai: search for java then press F3 to show each result
#1992 [15:37] <yharrow1> disabling antivir not help
#1993 [15:37] <yharrow1> what now?
#1994 [15:37] <Kealper> yharrow1: well...that's not good then...
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#1997 [15:38] <Kealper> yharrow1: did it by chance...stop working when you updated to the client version 1.3?
#1998 [15:38] <yharrow1> possibly
#1999 [15:38] <AkiTensai> Kealper: There are at least 15 entries, if not more.
#2000 [15:39] <Kealper> AkiTensai: hmm....gimme a sec to check a few things then
#2001 [15:39] <yharrow1> it logs in, it just doesnt finish loading
#2002 [15:40] <yharrow1> attempting login to "minecraftonline.com" average ping 87ms
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#2004 [15:40] <yharrow1> Kealper, my ping is good right?
#2005 [15:40] <Dark_Fox_> Hey guys I'm having trouble with my minecraft server. It keeps saying "Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?" and everytime I try to smash a block it reappears. It's hosted on Ubuntu Desktop 10.10 with 1.6GHz Processor (single core, at 15% CPU usage) and 3GB RAM
#2006 [15:41] <AkiTensai> yharrow1: I'm seeing 230ms to that server via ping. 87ms is a good ping.
#2007 [15:41] <Kealper> yharrow1: version 1.3 and 1.4 have a bug in them that causes stuff similar to what you are having....no real idea what causes the bug, or how to fix it without something drastic :/
#2008 [15:41] <oldtopman> Dark_Fox_ Are you running the client on the same machine?
#2009 [15:41] <Dark_Fox_> oldtopman: No
#2010 [15:41] <oldtopman> Win$?
#2011 [15:41] <yharrow1> kealper what does drastic mean?
#2012 [15:41] <Dark_Fox_> My client is on a windows 7 box, but they're on the same LAN
#2013 [15:41] <oldtopman> hmm
#2014 [15:41] <yharrow1> define drastic pls
#2015 [15:41] <Kealper> yharrow1: serious
#2016 [15:41] <Kealper> major
#2017 [15:41] <yharrow1> i can handle drastic
#2018 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dark_Fox_ smp/opyourself
#2019 [15:41] <VoxelHead> Dark_Fox_: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#2020 [15:41] <yharrow1> explain details pls
#2021 [15:41] <VoxelHead> Dark_Fox_: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#2022 [15:42] <Kealper> yharrow1: ever reinstall windows before? lol
#2023 [15:42] <oldtopman> Dark_Fox_: Do you have any network traffic at the same time?
#2024 [15:42] <yharrow1> how on earth will reinstalling iwndows help?
#2025 [15:42] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: He can edit, but he gets the lag message on the server side.
#2026 [15:42] <Dark_Fox_> oldtopman: No
#2027 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> "can't keep up!"?
#2028 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> ?? normal
#2029 [15:42] <VoxelHead> normal: That message is perfectly normal, and happens all the time. However, if the console is spamming it or it occurs very frequently, then it is indicating that the machine is not powerful enough to run the server.
#2030 [15:42] <Kealper> yharrow1: it might...lol
#2031 [15:42] <Dark_Fox_> VoxelHead: Thanks, that did it
#2032 [15:43] <oldtopman> Dark_Fox_ Is there any lag at the same time?
#2033 [15:43] <yharrow1> Kealper, dude...If i reset all TCP/IP registry settings why need to reinstall?
#2034 [15:43] <Dark_Fox_> oldtopman: No, not really any lag.
#2035 [15:43] <oldtopman> Dark_Fox_ VoxelHead is a bot.
#2036 [15:43] <Dark_Fox_> Er, sorry my thanks go out to DopeGhoti then
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#2038 [15:44] <Kealper> yharrow1: as an alternative, you could first try making a new windows user account, to see if it's some sort of config badness on your user account
#2039 [15:44] <VoxelHead> You're still welcome.
#2040 [15:44] <yharrow1> ok
#2041 [15:44] <oldtopman> VoxelHead: Shut up
#2042 [15:45] <VoxelHead> *eyes tear up a bit*
#2043 [15:45] <oldtopman> Grrr
#2044 [15:46] * oldtopman hates realistic bots
#2044 [15:46] * oldtopman facepalms
#2044 [15:46] * VoxelHead high-fives AuBot
#2044 [15:47] <oldtopman> ...
#2045 [15:48] <Kealper> where the heck does java store it's registry enteries
#2046 [15:48] <AkiTensai> Kealper: There are a huge number of identical entries under an incrementing GUID, half referencing jp2iexp.dll, the other half referencing a plugin.
#2047 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: HLKM or possubly HKCU
#2048 [15:48] * oldtopman uses liquid nitrogen to flash-freeze AuBot and VoxelHead, then shoots at them, shattering them into millions of tiny pices
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#2049 [15:49] <AkiTensai> I've never seen an incrementing GUID before...
#2050 [15:49] * VoxelHead plays a card from the T-1000 deck and reforms itself.
#2050 [15:49] <yharrow1> Kealper would deletingmy minecraft folder have the same effect?
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#2052 [15:50] <Kealper> yharrow1: if it's with your windows user accout, no....but you said this DC thing has been happening for a few minecraft versions now, right?
#2053 [15:50] <Kealper> (and i'm assuming you have not been using any mods)
#2054 [15:51] <yharrow1> i havent tested since alpha (when skin installer got added)
#2055 [15:51] <yharrow1> then in beta servers just didnt laod for me
#2056 [15:51] * oldtopman shoves VoxelHead into a vat of molten steel
#2056 [15:52] * VoxelHead shoves oldtopman back with a MySQL server
#2056 [15:52] <Kealper> dangit, how dare he quit while i'm typing a question to him
#2057 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: oh, he dares.
#2058 [15:52] * oldtopman destroys the MySQL server with an Apache
#2058 [15:52] <AkiTensai> Kealper: There are about 334 of these entries for those two references.
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#2060 [15:52] * DopeGhoti watches the LAMP go dark.
#2060 [15:53] <Kealper> i guess it's just a LAP now :<
#2061 [15:53] <Kealper> AkiTensai: are you on a 64 bit or 32 bit os?
#2062 [15:53] <AkiTensai> 32 Windows XP Pro SP3
#2063 [15:54] <Kealper> oh...derp....for some reason i was thinking you were on vista or something....lol
#2064 [15:54] * Kealper forgets that xp is still out in the wild
#2064 [15:54] * oldtopman is happy he finally killed and shut-up VoxelHead
#2064 [15:55] <AkiTensai> It took years before they pried 98 from my hands. Now I don't have a teacher pushing me forward >D
#2065 [15:55] <Kealper> lol
#2066 [15:55] <AkiTensai> And I'm a good enough coder that my boss isn't going to force me to upgrade.
#2067 [15:55] <evets> Hi, I`m having a problem in single-player minecraft where my world got corrupted and my base was destroyed. Can anyone help? I made a forum thread about my problem here:
#2068 [15:55] <evets> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=267887
#2069 [15:55] <Kealper> well...in regdit....do you have a folder in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE called JavaSoft?
#2070 [15:56] <Kealper> regedit*
#2071 [15:56] <oldtopman> evets: You will need someone to edit your map and remove the corrupted chunks
#2072 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: are you alive?
#2073 [15:56] <AkiTensai> Kealper: Yes. 6 folders.
#2074 [15:57] <VoxelHead> no. I mean yes.
#2075 [15:57] <Kealper> AkiTensai: delete the whole JavaSoft folder
#2076 [15:57] <evets> oldtopman: well, thats the thing, I`m just guessing its corruption, because everthing looks normal, except for the fact that most of my base is gone. take a look at the SS in the thread I made.
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#2078 [15:58] <oldtopman> evets: have any backups?
#2079 [15:58] <AkiTensai> Friend doing googlefu says someone on the forums with two screens disabled the second and the game worked for him. Trying that first >.>
#2080 [15:58] <evets> no. :(
#2081 [15:58] <oldtopman> evets: Also, is there a 16x16 hole in the middle?
#2082 [15:58] <evets> shouldn`t need to make backups of my saves in a single player game. :é
#2083 [15:58] <AkiTensai> sob
#2084 [15:58] <oldtopman> Or at lease a 16x16 missing base area
#2085 [15:58] <AkiTensai> I can't have a second monitor?
#2086 [15:58] <Kealper> AkiTensai: what? i have one :/
#2087 [15:58] <AkiTensai> Kealper: Game works when I disable my second monitor.
#2088 [15:59] <Kealper> seriously?
#2089 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> No, you can't play minecraft on the second monitor
#2090 [15:59] <AkiTensai> I'm using Ultramon, not sure if that matters.
#2091 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Known problem
#2092 [15:59] <Kealper> O.o
#2093 [15:59] <Kealper> i must try this
#2094 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Certain OSs, don't like minecraft/java on the second monitor
#2095 [15:59] <oldtopman> evets: Is there a 16x16 missing base area?
#2096 [15:59] <AkiTensai> Ya... that is something else. Nice new logos, haven't seen this for three months.
#2097 [16:00] <evets> oldtopman, I don`t know how big it is, but I think its more than 16x16. I noticed a large-ish area that has been stripped of trees, but isn`t perfectly flat or anything like that
#2098 [16:00] <oldtopman> evets: I think the damage will be in multiple 16x16 holes
#2099 [16:01] <oldtopman> evets: When you get a corrupted chunk in SSP, it delets the offending chunk (16x16x128) and makes a new one.
#2100 [16:01] <Kealper> works fine on windows 7 on second monitor.... AkiTensai it looks like it may be time to update again :P
#2101 [16:02] <evets> oldtopman: That`s possible, except it doesn`t look like it deleted a whole chunk, just parts of it. Random bits of my base are still floating around, which is why I`m confused
#2102 [16:02] <Kealper> but blackscreen on multimonitor setups in some cases.... /me notes for potential later use
#2103 [16:02] <AkiTensai> As soon as the white logo appears, the second monitor can be re-enabled and game is happy.
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#2105 [16:03] <AkiTensai> Kealper: My cold dead hands will still give you trouble taking my OS ;P
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#2107 [16:03] <Kealper> so is your main monitor not your first one?
#2108 [16:03] <Kealper> lol
#2109 [16:03] <TheHuntedPie> <- yharrow
#2110 [16:03] <AkiTensai> Its is my first one. The second one doesn't have the game on it at all.
#2111 [16:04] <TheHuntedPie> resetting the user account doesnt seemt o work
#2112 [16:04] <AkiTensai> >D The screen doesn't update if played from the second monitor.
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#2114 [16:04] <evets> huhn. I just made a bridge out to my old bed that was floating in mid air and was able to use it. o.O
#2115 [16:04] <Moh> Hello
#2116 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2117 [16:05] <TheHuntedPie> Kealper: any ideas what to do?
#2118 [16:05] <Moh> is there anyone can help me with my account ?
#2119 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#2120 [16:05] <oldtopman> ??> Moh ask
#2121 [16:05] <VoxelHead> Moh: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2122 [16:05] <Moh> Well it's not really a problem , i bought the game few mins ago under a name and i would like to change it
#2123 [16:05] <VoxelHead> Moh: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2124 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Moh - Easiest way, request a refund and make a new account
#2125 [16:06] <TheHuntedPie> how do i solve my computer not gettingchunk updates fromt he world server?
#2126 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> It's not currently possible to change usernames
#2127 [16:06] <Moh> how does a refund work ?
#2128 [16:06] <Moh> i boguht it via paypal
#2129 [16:06] <Moh> bought*
#2130 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Send an email to payment@mojang.com with the paypal transaction ID
#2131 [16:06] <ngc0202> who said ngc?
#2132 [16:07] <ngc0202> LOL
#2133 [16:07] <ngc0202> gettiNGChunks
#2134 [16:07] <ngc0202> good one
#2135 [16:07] <Moh> ok is there anyway to change the display name in the game ? or is it always the same is my registered ID ?
#2136 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> NGC can also mean Nintendo GameCube
#2137 [16:07] <Kealper> TheHuntedPie: since i now remember what i was going to ask you before you quit last time...lol
#2138 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> Moh: There is not presently any way to change registered names.
#2139 [16:08] <Kealper> TheHuntedPie: when you connect to a server....do you just DC from the server, or do you actually DC from all things?
#2140 [16:08] <Moh> Not even the displayed name ?
#2141 [16:08] <Dark_Fox_> Gah, freaking openjdk
#2142 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> Dark_Fox_: ?
#2143 [16:08] <Kealper> Moh: not at the moment, no
#2144 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> The username is the displayed name
#2145 [16:08] <Dark_Fox_> We'll be having noen of -that-
#2146 [16:08] <Moh> Ok thanks for your help ^^
#2147 [16:08] <Dark_Fox_> DopeGhoti: Was playing the server for like ten minutes and it crashed
#2148 [16:08] <TheHuntedPie> Kealper: i dont just dc, first about 500 chunks are downloaded, then they just stop downloading. my connection stays fine
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#2150 [16:09] <Dark_Fox_> Aaannd all of my progress was lost
#2151 [16:09] <Kealper> well that's strange
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#2153 [16:10] <merrell> hello, I have a problem with minecraft where I get a black screen every few minutes
#2154 [16:10] <Kealper> TheHuntedPie: just as a test....connect to the mc server address mc.kealper.com, and we'll see if you have the same problems..
#2155 [16:10] <merrell> I know setting render to "normal" is a temp. fix, but... is there a permanent fix?
#2156 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> merrell - Not as of this moment.
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#2158 [16:11] <merrell> ah ok then, thanks :)
#2159 [16:13] <TheHuntedPie> i connected
#2160 [16:13] <TheHuntedPie> same problem
#2161 [16:13] <TheHuntedPie> starts chunk download then slows and stops
#2162 [16:13] <TheHuntedPie> then dcs
#2163 [16:13] <Kealper> hmm...
#2164 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheHuntedPie win/profile
#2165 [16:15] <VoxelHead> TheHuntedPie: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2166 [16:15] <VoxelHead> TheHuntedPie: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2167 [16:15] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: already had him do that
#2168 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> you did? Same effect?
#2169 [16:16] <Kealper> didn't fix it :/
#2170 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> My next experiment would then be a Linux liveCD
#2171 [16:16] <TheHuntedPie> Voxel I did that already
#2172 [16:16] <TheHuntedPie> VoxelHead:
#2173 [16:16] <xales> ._.
#2174 [16:16] <xales> VoxelHead is a bot
#2175 [16:17] <xales> it sounds to me like an Internet routing fail, tbh
#2176 [16:17] <TheHuntedPie> VoxelHead: can youhear me?
#2177 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> TheHuntedPie: My next idea would be to try a Linux LiveCD, to determine whether it's a hardware problem, or an OS problem.
#2178 [16:17] <lukegb> Kealper: VoxelHead needs ?iamabot
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#2180 [16:17] <TheHuntedPie> I have Ubuntu installed Ill just try that
#2181 [16:17] <TheHuntedPie> brb
#2182 [16:17] <xales> lukegb: it's irc/vh
#2183 [16:17] * VoxelHead [VoxelHead@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2184 [16:17] <xales> ?? irc/vh
#2185 [16:17] <xales> ._.
#2186 [16:17] <lukegb> Nicely organised then :P
#2187 [16:18] * xales pokes VoxelHead
#2187 [16:18] <xales> ??> xales irc/vh
#2188 [16:18] <lukegb> ??> lukegb irc/vh
#2189 [16:18] <lukegb> ??> lukegb win/dxdiag
#2190 [16:18] <lukegb> :(
#2191 [16:18] <xales> DopeGhoti: he's broken
#2192 [16:18] <lukegb> ??> lukegb win/profile
#2193 [16:18] <xales> 16:17:36 <VoxelHead> [13:18] FAQ: Send keyword "win/dxdiag" to lukegb by lukegb (lukegb@this.irc.server.has.been.hacked.jp)
#2194 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> ??< irc/vh
#2195 [16:19] * DopeGhoti shoots VoxelHead in the face
#2195 [16:19] <xales> ooh fun
#2196 [16:19] <xales> my mouse stopped working again
#2197 [16:19] <xales> ._.
#2198 [16:19] <VoxelHead> irc/vh: I am VoxelHead - a bot created to store information to be retrieved later, to assist in helping users.
#2199 [16:20] <VoxelHead> irc/vh: I also have a pretty dumb AI thing that annoys people and only works half the time
#2200 [16:20] <VoxelHead> xales: (irc/vh) I am VoxelHead - a bot created to store information to be retrieved later, to assist in helping users.
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#2202 [16:21] <Kealper> who/what is NotiCon >.>
#2203 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> it's a convention for fans of CTCP Notice messges?
#2204 [16:23] <Kealper> the sad thing is that is not too far off from what i'd describe it as
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#2206 [16:23] <Kealper> i accidentally had an extra chr 1 on AuBot's action....and it sent a notice to me saying it was an unknown CTCP command >.>
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#2209 [16:25] <TheHuntedPie> VoxelHead: k im in ubuntu now. waiting for download
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#2211 [16:25] <xales> TheHuntedPie: ...
#2212 [16:25] <xales> once again, VoxelHead is a bot
#2213 [16:25] <xales> ._.
#2214 [16:26] <TheHuntedPie> o.o
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#2216 [16:26] <TheHuntedPie> well he seems to be helpful...
#2217 [16:26] <xales> That's because we are telling him what to say
#2218 [16:26] <TheHuntedPie> is there anyone here who can help me whos not a bot >>?
#2219 [16:26] <Maweypeyyu> Hi, I want to ask whether it is possible to use colorcodes like in classic? In Classic I could write "%4RED TEXT" but nothing seems to work with beta. Although if you write "say test" in server-console, the text is purple
#2220 [16:26] <xales> If you didn't notice, DopeGhoti said
#2221 [16:27] <xales> "16:15:05 <@DopeGhoti> ??> TheHuntedPie win/profile"
#2222 [16:27] <xales> right before he gave you the info
#2223 [16:27] <xales> ._.
#2224 [16:27] <TheHuntedPie> oh
#2225 [16:27] <Kealper> Maweypeyyu: you can, it's just rather hard to do
#2226 [16:27] <ngc0202> :P
#2227 [16:27] <Maweypeyyu> hard to do is no problem :)
#2228 [16:27] <Maweypeyyu> What do I have to do?
#2229 [16:27] <Maweypeyyu> ah, modding is not an option :)
#2230 [16:28] <Kealper> Maweypeyyu: the control character for colors was changed to a double S, but i'm pretty sure you can still type that in and get said color
#2231 [16:28] <Kealper> §
#2232 [16:28] <Maweypeyyu> okay, wait^^
#2233 [16:28] <Kealper> let me see if it can be typed in
#2234 [16:28] <[z]> I've tried that.. Didn't seem to work.
#2235 [16:28] <Kealper> nope, can't be typed or copied in :/
#2236 [16:29] <Kealper> works on the serve console though
#2237 [16:29] <Kealper> server*
#2238 [16:29] <Maweypeyyu> No, if I type $4Test on console or myself in the client, it wont work
#2239 [16:29] <Maweypeyyu> it only shows $4Test without color and with $4 :)
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#2241 [16:30] <Kealper> it's not a dollar sign, it's a section sign
#2242 [16:30] <[z]> Not $
#2243 [16:30] <Maweypeyyu> Ah
#2244 [16:30] <Kealper> alt+0167
#2245 [16:30] <Maweypeyyu> sorry
#2246 [16:30] <Maweypeyyu> my fault
#2247 [16:30] <Kealper> but the client doesn't accept it, only the server console does it seems
#2248 [16:30] <TheHuntedPie> Kealper is there any hope forme :( ?
#2249 [16:30] <Kealper> TheHuntedPie: you're in ubuntu right now, right?
#2250 [16:30] <TheHuntedPie> I tried ubuntu and it gets chunk updates now , but FPS and updates are very slow
#2251 [16:31] <TheHuntedPie> 6fps
#2252 [16:32] <Kealper> TheHuntedPie: well then, all you have to do to fix fps fail is just install the correct driver, but i'm not the resident linux expert...so...you'd have to consult either xales or DopeGhoti
#2253 [16:32] <Maweypeyyu> hm, if I try it in console he just prints a 4 Test on client (is the format still § + ColorCode? e.g. §4hereanytext)
#2254 [16:32] <TheHuntedPie> connection reset
#2255 [16:32] <Dragonbut> TheHuntedPie: I get 3 FPS most of the time >.< Learn to deal with it
#2256 [16:32] <Kealper> O.o
#2257 [16:32] <TheHuntedPie> ...
#2258 [16:32] <Kealper> Maweypeyyu: i just did say
#2259 [16:32] <Kealper> whoops, fail enter
#2260 [16:32] <TheHuntedPie> is tehre at least some way to at least debug whats happening to me?
#2261 [16:33] <Kealper> say §4asdf! and it worked
#2262 [16:33] <AkiTensai> Were skins reset at some point in the last three months?
#2263 [16:33] <Kealper> TheHuntedPie: unfortunately, this sort of thing can't be easily debugged...
#2264 [16:33] <Maweypeyyu> hmm, my client only prints 4asdf!
#2265 [16:33] <xales> AkiTensai: Possibly with the server move
#2266 [16:34] <Maweypeyyu> with the default server color
#2267 [16:34] <Dragonbut> Lol, I can't even type those 2 S things XD
#2268 [16:34] <Kealper> AkiTensai: not that i know of, but sometimes it can be shoddy as to whether you can actually see your skin ingame if minecraft.net is being mean
#2269 [16:34] <AkiTensai> xales: Thank you. Kealper: Check the site. Its default there too.
#2270 [16:35] <AkiTensai> er... checked, not check
#2271 [16:35] <Kealper> the § can be typed with holding the alt key, and pressing 0167 on the numpad, then releasing the alt key
#2272 [16:35] <Dragonbut> Oh :3
#2273 [16:35] <Kealper> AkiTensai:oh, could be
#2274 [16:35] <Dragonbut> Wait, numpad? XD
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#2276 [16:35] <Kealper> the numbers to the righthand side of your keyboard...laptops usually won't have them
#2277 [16:36] <Dragonbut> Oh, that's why D:
#2278 [16:36] <AkiTensai> I think I've used the fn button version to do alt chars before on a laptop.
#2279 [16:36] <Dragonbut> 0167
#2280 [16:36] <Dragonbut> Dangit XD
#2281 [16:37] <Kealper> well....
#2282 [16:37] <Kealper> can you see it when i type it?
#2283 [16:37] <ks> does anyone know of a map trimming tool (chunk removal) that is up to date?
#2284 [16:37] <AkiTensai> text
#2285 [16:37] <AkiTensai> mt >.>
#2286 [16:37] <xales> ks: any mapeditor should be able to do that
#2287 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> MCedit is one that can do that
#2288 [16:37] <ks> xales, its huge, I really dont want to open it in an editor
#2289 [16:38] <xales> It doesn't open the whole map at once
#2290 [16:38] <ks> unless the cli version of mce has a trim tool.....
#2291 [16:38] <Dragonbut> Where is 0 in the fn version?
#2292 [16:38] <xales> The only other option, besides opening it in an editor, is to delete them by hand
#2293 [16:38] <xales> which is extremely difficult
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#2295 [16:39] <ks> bah, old format days were so much simpler >.<
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#2297 [16:40] <Dragonbut> Yes Kealper XD lp
#2298 [16:40] <Kealper> Dragonbut: then just select it, and copy it, then paste it in where you need it lol §
#2299 [16:40] <ks> hmm, unless.... is there any kind of reverse map conversion tool? Then it'd be just a question of waiting
#2300 [16:41] <Dragonbut> I can't copy in XChat D:
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#2303 [16:42] <TheHuntedPie> I reallyw ant to play SMP can anyone give some random idea
#2304 [16:42] <xales> TheHuntedPie: http://speedtest.net/ select a server in another country
#2305 [16:42] <xales> paste the result
#2306 [16:44] <Maweypeyyu> It is really strange, but I cannot get it work... I tyepe say §4asdf! to server-console, press enter and on cosole stand [INFO] [CONSOLE] §4asdf! and on client [SERVER] 4asdf!
#2307 [16:44] <Maweypeyyu> no colors
#2308 [16:44] * Dragonbut is away: I'm busy
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#2309 [16:45] <Kealper> RAGE
#2310 [16:45] <Dragonbut> .
#2311 [16:45] <Kealper> autoaway announce >.>
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#2313 [16:46] <Maweypeyyu> Kealper, do I anything wrong? Is it working for you?
#2314 [16:47] <Kealper> works for me...but i'm not using the GUI version of the server, i'm using the console version, so that might be it
#2315 [16:47] <Maweypeyyu> i do also use the console-version
#2316 [16:48] <Dragonbut> What?
#2317 [16:48] <Dragonbut> Sorry, I didn't try to away.
#2318 [16:48] <TheHuntedPie> xales I chose a london server since the server im trying to connect to is an english one http://www.speedtest.net/result/1239809552.png
#2319 [16:48] <Kealper> Maweypeyyu: weird...no idea then :/
#2320 [16:48] <Maweypeyyu> okay, thanks for your help
#2321 [16:48] <gPad2002> TheHuntedPie: That's fine
#2322 [16:49] <TheHuntedPie> id think 1.6mb is enough to run mc
#2323 [16:49] <gPad2002> It is
#2324 [16:50] <TheHuntedPie> my computer is 3ghz hyperthreading cpu + 4gb sdram
#2325 [16:50] <TheHuntedPie> and ATI Radeon vid card
#2326 [16:50] <Dragonbut> I can do it I just don't get the same things
#2327 [16:51] <TheHuntedPie> gPad2002: is there any hope for me?
#2328 [16:51] <gPad2002> Yes
#2329 [16:51] <gPad2002> That's a good PC
#2330 [16:51] <TheHuntedPie> what do i do?
#2331 [16:51] <gPad2002> What's the problem!
#2332 [16:51] <TheHuntedPie> i cant connect to any servers
#2333 [16:51] <gPad2002> ?
#2334 [16:51] <gPad2002> Error?
#2335 [16:51] <TheHuntedPie> i connect and it times out after 4 mins
#2336 [16:51] <gPad2002> Just one sever or all?
#2337 [16:51] <gPad2002> Server*
#2338 [16:51] <TheHuntedPie> all
#2339 [16:52] <gPad2002> A lot of people are reporting this lately
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#2341 [16:52] <gPad2002> I don't think there's a lot we can do right now
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#2343 [16:52] <gPad2002> Make sure you're not downloading stuff and that a firewall isn't interfering
#2344 [16:52] <Aliv3> ah my force update button isnt working
#2345 [16:53] <roozor> Hi guys, just purchased the game. I can't make a server for me and my brother to play on
#2346 [16:53] <TheHuntedPie> whats a good MTU to use on my router?
#2347 [16:53] <roozor> everytime i spawn in my server, i'm falling through the world
#2348 [16:53] <TheHuntedPie> roozor join the club
#2349 [16:53] <xales> roozor: what are the specs of your computer?
#2350 [16:53] <xales> how much CPU, how much RAM?
#2351 [16:53] <Aliv3> im still on 1.3
#2352 [16:53] <Aliv3> and i cant update
#2353 [16:54] <xales> Aliv3: what's your username?
#2354 [16:54] <xales> I thought so.
#2355 [16:54] <xales> derp.
#2356 [16:54] <roozor> it's pretty good, amd 250 dual core 3ghz, 6gb ram, windows 7 64bit
#2357 [16:54] <roozor> it rips through crysis 2, so i can't udnerstand why i can't make a minecraft server :p
#2358 [16:54] <xales> roozor: how are you launching the server? with the EXE?
#2359 [16:55] <roozor> i've tried the minecraft server exe, and i tried the mcadmin thing
#2360 [16:55] <roozor> both give the same results
#2361 [16:55] <xales> are you running a firewall?
#2362 [16:55] <roozor> only windows 7 built in
#2363 [16:55] <Kade> how are you connecting to it?
#2364 [16:55] <roozor> but i unblocked the ports
#2365 [16:55] <roozor> suggested
#2366 [16:56] <xales> do you know the model of NIC in your computer?
#2367 [16:56] <roozor> i'm creating the server using exe, or mcadmin. I try to join it using minecraft exe, or java on the website
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#2369 [16:56] <roozor> i use a netgear wg111 wireless usb
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#2371 [16:57] <Killking72> was there another update?
#2372 [16:57] <xales> Yes
#2373 [16:57] <Killking72> what was it?
#2374 [16:57] <xales> roozor: what IP are you connecting with
#2375 [16:57] <xales> Killking72: look on the wiki
#2376 [16:58] <roozor> i just type in localhost
#2377 [16:58] <PH0ENIX> linux is the devil
#2378 [16:58] <Dragonbut> Kealper: I can do it! Just not in XChat
#2379 [16:58] <Kealper> lol
#2380 [16:58] <PH0ENIX> which of you suggested ubuntu?
#2381 [16:59] <PH0ENIX> -_-
#2382 [16:59] <Kealper> uhh
#2383 [16:59] * Kealper stays quite
#2383 [16:59] <Kealper> quiet*
#2384 [16:59] <PH0ENIX> lol
#2385 [16:59] <PH0ENIX> im torrenting red hat
#2386 [16:59] <PH0ENIX> ubuntu wont boot
#2387 [16:59] <Dragonbut> LOL
#2388 [16:59] <xales> roozor: do you see anything in the server console?
#2389 [16:59] <Dragonbut> That's good to admit to torrenting
#2390 [16:59] <roozor> yeah the server console says i connected and that's it
#2391 [16:59] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: really? wow...i've never had any issues of it
#2392 [17:00] <PH0ENIX> i mean... a legal torrent from red hat itself
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#2394 [17:00] <Kealper> Dragonbut: linux distributions are commonly downloaded via torrent...it's faster and is much less taxing for the distro's operators
#2395 [17:00] <PH0ENIX> Kealper, it was hell just install it
#2396 [17:00] <PH0ENIX> kept locking up
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#2398 [17:00] <Kealper> wow
#2399 [17:00] <PH0ENIX> ive never had problems with linux either
#2400 [17:00] <Kealper> sorry for that then :<
#2401 [17:00] <JonathanS> its ok
#2402 [17:01] <PH0ENIX> lol, not your fault, i dont really blame anyone
#2403 [17:01] <PH0ENIX> :-P
#2404 [17:01] <Dragonbut> Kealper: How much space would Ubuntu take? And can I double boot it with windows?
#2405 [17:01] <Kealper> the machine's cd/dvd drive works, right PH0ENIX?
#2406 [17:01] <PH0ENIX> Dragonbut it fits on a cd, and yea itll duel boot
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#2408 [17:01] <PH0ENIX> Kealper yea
#2409 [17:01] <PH0ENIX> i got it installed
#2410 [17:01] <Kealper> Dragonbut: Ubuntu actually has a really easy dual boot option
#2411 [17:01] <PH0ENIX> just doesnt do anything
#2412 [17:01] <killking72> where at on the minecraft wiki?
#2413 [17:02] <PH0ENIX> like, no boot record at all
#2414 [17:02] <PH0ENIX> its odd
#2415 [17:02] <Kealper> weird
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#2417 [17:02] <PH0ENIX> indeed
#2418 [17:02] <Dragonbut> PH0ENIX: What does that mean? How much frickin' space? :P
#2419 [17:02] <PH0ENIX> just gived me the F1 to retry, F2 for setup
#2420 [17:02] <Kealper> Dragonbut: atleast 4GB, more if you wanted to use it for stuff on a regular basis
#2421 [17:02] <PH0ENIX> Dragonbut it asks for 2.6gb
#2422 [17:02] <xales> roozor: usually the people on the forum just don't have computers that can properly run it
#2423 [17:03] <xales> I think the problem might be related to the USB wireless
#2424 [17:03] <PH0ENIX> usb wireless does that
#2425 [17:03] <Dragonbut> PH0ENIX: Hmm....
#2426 [17:03] <PH0ENIX> i cant host anything on wireless
#2427 [17:03] <Dragonbut> Kealper: Hmm.... :P
#2428 [17:03] <PH0ENIX> lol Dragonbut, im just telling you the min requirements it asked for on install
#2429 [17:04] <Kealper> Dragonbut: i said atleast 4GB because it's not going to be usable if you only give it 2.6GB of space...you won't have any room for any files of your own
#2430 [17:04] <Dragonbut> PH0ENIX: I know
#2431 [17:04] <Dragonbut> Kealper: I know :3
#2432 [17:04] <killking72> where on the wiki are the patch notes?
#2433 [17:04] <PH0ENIX> im just giving it its own hdd
#2434 [17:05] <killking72> and was there a patch today
#2435 [17:05] <Dragonbut> Kealper: Would it hog actual memory or anything?
#2436 [17:05] <Kealper> killking72: did you want the patch notes for 1.4? or earlier versions?
#2437 [17:05] <roozor> anyone know how in MCADMIN can i load my own map? i might try that insted of random
#2438 [17:05] * Kealper has never and will never use MCAdmin
#2438 [17:05] <roozor> it's not good? ;o
#2439 [17:05] <Kealper> Dragonbut: what version of windows are you using right now?
#2440 [17:05] <PH0ENIX> Dragonbut you only have 1 OS running at a time, and linux generally isnt a hog
#2441 [17:06] <Kealper> Dragonbut: because if you're using windows vista or windows 7, then you're already using more ram than Ubuntu is going to take
#2442 [17:06] <Dragonbut> Kealper: Vista Home Premium 32 Bit (Lol, not sure if I needed to add 32 Bit to it)
#2443 [17:06] <PH0ENIX> lol
#2444 [17:06] <PH0ENIX> itll use less memory than vista
#2445 [17:07] <PH0ENIX> thats for damn sure
#2446 [17:07] <Kealper> roozor: and it may work...but due to previous happenings...i just don't like it
#2447 [17:07] <Dragonbut> PH0ENIX: How much memory does vista take?
#2448 [17:07] <roozor> Kealper, what's the best program to make a minecraft server? i just want classic survial, simple. so me and my brother can play online together
#2449 [17:07] <PH0ENIX> all of it?
#2450 [17:07] <Dragonbut> Lol
#2451 [17:07] <Kealper> roozor: why not just run it without any mods or other stuff? :/
#2452 [17:08] <Dragonbut> So in other words if I use Ubuntu my computer may go a little faster? :3
#2453 [17:08] <roozor> can i use my own map on it though?
#2454 [17:08] <PH0ENIX> it asks for 1GB
#2455 [17:08] <roozor> i've been playing single player for a while, got a good map going
#2456 [17:08] <roozor> want my bro to join in on it ;o
#2457 [17:08] <PH0ENIX> Dragonbut it should, but if you game id advise a duelboot
#2458 [17:08] <PH0ENIX> lots of games arnt compatable on linux
#2459 [17:08] <Kealper> roozor: oh, yeah you don't need a mod like MCAdmin to use a custom map
#2460 [17:08] <killking72> roozor, join my PM
#2461 [17:08] <roozor> ;o
#2462 [17:09] <Dragonbut> PH0ENIX: That's what I was gonna do anyway
#2463 [17:09] <PH0ENIX> sounds like a solid plan
#2464 [17:09] <PH0ENIX> i havent used linux much in recent years, but i loved it bck in the day
#2465 [17:09] <Kealper> just copy your world you want to play into the folder for your server's files...and then rename that map's folder to "world"
#2466 [17:10] <Kealper> start the server, and heypresto
#2467 [17:10] <roozor> ;o
#2468 [17:10] <PH0ENIX> Dragonbut you on a laptop or desktop?
#2469 [17:10] <Dragonbut> Laptop
#2470 [17:10] <PH0ENIX> ahh
#2471 [17:10] <PH0ENIX> cant exactly add a hdd then...
#2472 [17:10] <Dragonbut> What's an hdd?
#2473 [17:10] <PH0ENIX> hard drive
#2474 [17:10] <Kealper> you don't need an extra hdd
#2475 [17:10] <Dragonbut> Oh
#2476 [17:11] <Kealper> Ubuntu has this thing called Wubi (Windows Ubuntu Installer)
#2477 [17:11] <PH0ENIX> i know Kealper, i just found it easier to have each os on its own logical drive
#2478 [17:11] <Dragonbut> I don't need one, after all if I dislike Ubuntu I can just uninstall it right? D
#2479 [17:11] <PH0ENIX> yes
#2480 [17:11] <aetherian> wubi is... last time I used it, it had plenty of errors.
#2481 [17:11] <Kealper> yea, when you do a Wubi install of Ubuntu, it will appear in Programs and Features under Windows as "Ubuntu" and give you the option to uninstall it
#2482 [17:12] <Kealper> it's worked fine for me
#2483 [17:12] <Dragonbut> Ooooh!
#2484 [17:12] <Kealper> they have come a long way since they first made it
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#2486 [17:12] <PH0ENIX> im sure
#2487 [17:12] <Dragonbut> Hi oldtop
#2488 [17:12] <aetherian> when I used it last, not in a little while now, it could find no root filesystem :|
#2489 [17:12] <oldtopman> 'allo
#2490 [17:12] <PH0ENIX> does wine work now?
#2491 [17:12] <aetherian> but that's likely fixed by now
#2492 [17:12] <oldtopman> Whats up Dragonbut?
#2493 [17:12] <Dragonbut> 1.49 Gigs of memory is enough right?
#2494 [17:12] <Kealper> PH0ENIX: wine has always worked? lol
#2495 [17:12] <Dragonbut> Nothing, you?
#2496 [17:13] <Kealper> Dragonbut: yes
#2497 [17:13] <Dragonbut> >:D
#2498 [17:13] <PH0ENIX> wine was fail last i used it
#2499 [17:13] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: My server only has 1GB ram in it
#2500 [17:13] <PH0ENIX> could hardly manage irc
#2501 [17:13] <Dragonbut> Holy shi*!!!
#2502 [17:13] <aetherian> who the heck uses wine for irc
#2503 [17:13] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Did you want to build the locking doors?
#2504 [17:13] * Kealper rawrs too
#2504 [17:13] <PH0ENIX> because i liked the client i used
#2505 [17:14] <Dragonbut> That disk optimization cleared me around 10 gigs!
#2506 [17:14] <aetherian> PH0ENIX: .-.
#2507 [17:14] <PH0ENIX> what?!
#2508 [17:14] <Kealper> >mIRC
#2509 [17:14] * oldtopman rawrs, then kills everyone in the chan
#2509 [17:14] <PH0ENIX> dont doubt the stubborn
#2510 [17:14] <aetherian> fail
#2511 [17:14] <Dragonbut> Oldtopman: Yes, I tried but failed XD
#2512 [17:14] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: want some help?
#2513 [17:15] <Dragonbut> Not now. Later probably
#2514 [17:15] <aetherian> I know a nice way for combo locked doors, but it uses up a bit of space.
#2515 [17:15] <oldtopman> Mkay then
#2516 [17:15] <PH0ENIX> well imma play some MC bbl
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#2518 [17:15] <Dragonbut> Bye Ph0enix
#2519 [17:16] <PH0ENIX> err
#2520 [17:16] <PH0ENIX> bad login..
#2521 [17:16] <PH0ENIX> wtf
#2522 [17:16] <Kealper> O.o
#2523 [17:17] <Kealper> set online-mode to false in server.properties
#2524 [17:17] <PH0ENIX> not on my server
#2525 [17:17] <PH0ENIX> the server i usually play
#2526 [17:18] <Dragonbut> Kealper, is 20 Gigs of Hard Drive space enough? :3
#2527 [17:18] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Yes
#2528 [17:18] <PH0ENIX> played this server many times
#2529 [17:18] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Mine only has 1 30MB map
#2530 [17:18] <Dragonbut> Oldtopman, for Ubuntu?
#2531 [17:18] <Kealper> Dragonbut: that'd definately allow for ample messing around lol
#2532 [17:19] <PH0ENIX> works now...
#2533 [17:19] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: as long as its just Ubuntu, and MC, yes
#2534 [17:23] <PH0ENIX> Kealper
#2535 [17:23] <PH0ENIX> http://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/1930528/Funnyjunk+Minecraft+Challenge/
#2536 [17:23] <PH0ENIX> thats what i been working on if you wanna see :-P
#2537 [17:24] <Kealper> o.o
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#2539 [17:24] <TheHuntedPie> hey ppl
#2540 [17:24] <PH0ENIX> i wish them luck finding it
#2541 [17:24] <TheHuntedPie> How do i get my client to download chunk updates in SMP
#2542 [17:25] <TheHuntedPie> ?
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#2544 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Should be automatic
#2545 [17:26] <Dragonbut> Kealper
#2546 [17:26] <Dragonbut> Where can I find the download for Wubi? And please no torrents :3
#2547 [17:27] <PH0ENIX> doesnt wubi some with the ubunto download?
#2548 [17:27] <Kealper> Dragonbut: it comes with ubuntu
#2549 [17:27] <Dragonbut> Where is the Ubuntu download? XD
#2550 [17:27] <Dragonbut> Would I need a disk?
#2551 [17:27] <Kealper> gimme a sec
#2552 [17:28] <Kealper> no, not for Wubi
#2553 [17:28] <PH0ENIX> the ubuntu website
#2554 [17:28] <Kealper> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
#2555 [17:28] <Kealper> just click Start download
#2556 [17:28] <roozor> ok, i've got further now Kealper, i can now spawn my own map and conect to it and it works fine
#2557 [17:29] <roozor> but my bro says when he tries to connect to me, it just says "connecting"
#2558 [17:29] <Kealper> roozor: what IP are you giving him?
#2559 [17:30] <Dragonbut> Ty
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#2561 [17:30] <roozor> i'm giving him my ip, finding it out by whatsmyip
#2562 [17:30] <roozor> followed by the minecraft port
#2563 [17:30] <roozor> :25566
#2564 [17:30] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Wubi torrents the iso
#2565 [17:30] <Kealper> are you two in the same house?
#2566 [17:30] <roozor> no
#2567 [17:30] <oldtopman> roozor: The port is optional
#2568 [17:30] <Kealper> oldtopman: not the one that comes on the disc
#2569 [17:30] <oldtopman> And the deafult port is 25565
#2570 [17:31] <Dragonbut> Wait...That download is for desktop version, I have a laptop
#2571 [17:31] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Its fine
#2572 [17:31] <Kealper> desktop just means the normal-person friendly version
#2573 [17:31] <Dragonbut> What about the Netbook version? XD
#2574 [17:31] <Kealper> ehh
#2575 [17:32] <roozor> when i used mcadmin it says ] Starting Minecraft server on 127.0.0.1:25566
#2576 [17:32] <Kealper> it's like desktop edition but borked way down to run on crappy computers
#2577 [17:32] <Kealper> roozor: give him your IP without the port
#2578 [17:32] <Dragonbut> And, can I still do everything I could in normal Linux with that?
#2579 [17:32] <Kealper> MCAdmin does some voodoo that i'd rather not explain
#2580 [17:32] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Just get the normal one
#2581 [17:33] <Kealper> trust me with this....just get the desktop edition lol
#2582 [17:33] <Kealper> the netbook edition is garbage
#2583 [17:34] <Dragonbut> Well can I still do everything like in a normal linux with one like that? Or is it just a different operating system?
#2584 [17:34] <Dragonbut> (Not Netbook edition)
#2585 [17:34] <Kealper> what, the desktop edition?
#2586 [17:34] <Kealper> the desktop one is the normal one
#2587 [17:34] <Dragonbut> Yes
#2588 [17:35] <roozor> still doesn't work kealper
#2589 [17:35] <Dragonbut> No XD if I wanted to do stuff like I could in Red Hat Linux, can I do it in Ubuntu Desktop Version?
#2590 [17:35] <Kealper> there are three versions, netbook, which is made for slow computers with small screens, desktop, which is normal, and server, which is made for servers (no graphical anything, all text)
#2591 [17:35] <Kealper> yes
#2592 [17:35] <Kealper> roozor: did you set up port forwarding?
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#2594 [17:36] <Dragonbut> Okay >:D
#2595 [17:36] <Dragonbut> Ehh... My laptops screen is the same size if not bigger then some monitors :3
#2596 [17:36] <roozor> i did kealper
#2597 [17:36] <roozor> if i just use the mc server exe i get the falling bug
#2598 [17:36] <Kealper> yeah, the netbook one is made for like....netbook resolutions (1024x600)
#2599 [17:37] <roozor> maps won't spawn
#2600 [17:37] <roozor> but mcadmin it works fine
#2601 [17:37] <roozor> and i can use my own map
#2602 [17:37] <Dragonbut> Mine's considered a notebook :3
#2603 [17:38] <Kealper> uhh... roozor did you change your map's name to "world" before using the default server exe?
#2604 [17:39] <Dragonbut> Holy crap, it takes 11 GB
#2605 [17:39] <Kealper> what?
#2606 [17:39] <Dragonbut> Ubuntu
#2607 [17:39] <Kealper> that's probably just recommended space
#2608 [17:40] <Dragonbut> Ahh
#2609 [17:40] <Kealper> so you have room to actually work, save stuff...etc
#2610 [17:40] <Dragonbut> Wait, I select the installation size?
#2611 [17:40] <Kealper> yes
#2612 [17:40] <Kealper> under Wubi it will ask you that stuff
#2613 [17:40] <Dragonbut> What should I choose?
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#2615 [17:41] <roozor> no, i'm just using the server exe with a random map
#2616 [17:41] <Kealper> how much free space did you want to allocate for Ubuntu?
#2617 [17:41] <Dragonbut> How much should I?
#2618 [17:41] <Kealper> roozor: delete the default "world" folder that the server generated, then move your world you want into the folder and rename it to "world"
#2619 [17:41] <Kealper> then start the server
#2620 [17:42] <Kealper> Dragonbut: well, that depends....does 8GB sound good? lol
#2621 [17:42] <Kealper> really it's as much as you want
#2622 [17:42] <Dragonbut> Yeah XD
#2623 [17:42] <Dragonbut> It makes a new account... How much space will that take?
#2624 [17:42] <roozor> in what folder? the minecraft exe doesn't have a folder
#2625 [17:42] <Kealper> roozor: oh....it should have it's own folder..it makes a lot of files :/
#2626 [17:43] <roozor> D:
#2627 [17:43] <Kealper> Dragonbut: that space is all included in that space you allocate
#2628 [17:43] <Dragonbut> Okay
#2629 [17:43] <roozor> i downloaded the minecraft server exe, and just ran nit
#2630 [17:43] <roozor> *it
#2631 [17:43] <Kealper> Dragonbut: do you have Wubi open now? or are you just reading up on it?
#2632 [17:43] <Dragonbut> It's installer is open
#2633 [17:43] <Kealper> roozor: oh...yeah, that's not the ideal place to run it from lol
#2634 [17:44] <Dragonbut> Oh, and could I open my other profile in Ubuntu?
#2635 [17:45] <Kealper> Dragonbut: no, the two run separately
#2636 [17:45] <Dragonbut> Okay
#2637 [17:45] <Dragonbut> Wtf is Pyrun?
#2638 [17:45] <Kealper> well
#2639 [17:45] <Kealper> if i had to guess
#2640 [17:45] <Kealper> it sounds like something to run Python scripts
#2641 [17:45] <Kealper> but idk
#2642 [17:46] <Dragonbut> Firewall blocked it, I unblocked
#2643 [17:46] <Dragonbut> It came in the Wubi download
#2644 [17:46] <Dragonbut> It'll say Ubuntu installer right? Not Wubi?
#2645 [17:46] <Kealper> most likely
#2646 [17:46] <Dragonbut> Okay
#2647 [17:47] <Kealper> i didn't pay that much attention the last few times i've ran it lol
#2648 [17:47] <Dragonbut> Gtg, bye! You were very helpful :3
#2649 [17:47] <Dragonbut> XD
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#2651 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> Today, I discovered that my boss literally has his office decorated with shrunken heads.
#2652 [17:51] <chCHE> wthh
#2653 [17:51] <chCHE> why does my webbrowser freeze when i try to connect to a server :@
#2654 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> connect to a warmer server?
#2655 [17:53] <chCHE> xD
#2656 [17:54] <relsqui> <_<
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#2658 [17:55] <mib_ako3qd> hey
#2659 [17:56] <Kealper> cripes
#2660 [17:56] <mib_ako3qd> ??
#2661 [17:56] <Kealper> my mom just FLIPPED out because i plugged her VCR into AV1 instead of AV2 on the tv....
#2662 [17:57] <mib_ako3qd> lol been there!
#2663 [17:58] <mib_ako3qd> could i get some server help?
#2664 [17:58] <Kealper> depends, what's the issue?
#2665 [17:59] <mib_ako3qd> ok i have set this thing up probly like 20x now and no one i know can connect to it and i have the port forwarding right and all
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#2667 [17:59] <Kealper> any firewall software installed?
#2668 [18:00] <mib_ako3qd> Avast is the only thing im running
#2669 [18:01] <Kealper> hmm....what IP do you have the forwarded port going to?
#2670 [18:01] <mib_ako3qd> otherwise none i know of
#2671 [18:01] <mib_ako3qd> 25565
#2672 [18:01] <PH0ENIX> oh god i lagged the funnyjunk server
#2673 [18:01] <Kealper> no, the IP...usually starts with 192.168
#2674 [18:01] <PH0ENIX> I DIDNT KNOWWWWWW
#2675 [18:01] <mib_ako3qd> oh lol its 192.168.1.70
#2676 [18:01] <roozor> kealper, i moved it into the mc dir
#2677 [18:01] <roozor> stil when my bro connect, it just saying connecting for ages
#2678 [18:02] <Kealper> mib_ako3qd: and you can connect to the mc server if you enter that IP?
#2679 [18:02] <mib_ako3qd> yea i put in 192.168.1.70:25565 and it logs me in np
#2680 [18:02] <Kealper> roozor: it says "Starting server on *:25565" in the console when it starts?
#2681 [18:03] <roozor> yeah
#2682 [18:03] <roozor> Starting Minecraft server on 127.0.0.1:25566
#2683 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2684 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> there's the problem
#2685 [18:03] <roozor> i can connect to the server using that address
#2686 [18:04] <roozor> but my bro an't using my ip
#2687 [18:04] <roozor> *can't
#2688 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Please leave the server-ip= line blank
#2689 [18:04] <PH0ENIX> invaled addy
#2690 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> remove the IP from the server-ip= line
#2691 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Do not fill in anything
#2692 [18:04] <Kealper> mib_ako3qd: if you know you don't have any firewall blocking it, then it's got to be something wrong with your forwarding
#2693 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Leave it blank
#2694 [18:04] <Kealper> roozor: also change server-port to 25565
#2695 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/server-ip
#2696 [18:04] <Kealper> this is one of the reasons i don't like MCAdmin
#2697 [18:04] <Kealper> it messes with crap
#2698 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> ??+ smp/server-ip|Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
#2699 [18:05] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: he was using MCAdmin :/
#2700 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> "?? mods"
#2701 [18:05] <Kealper> that changes the config file to make it so it can proxy all connections
#2702 [18:06] <roozor> i have done kealper
#2703 [18:06] <roozor> shoudl my bro just be using my ip
#2704 [18:06] <roozor> or the port too?
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#2706 [18:07] <Marth> gahh
#2707 [18:07] <PH0ENIX> i know this isnt a server question....
#2708 [18:07] <PH0ENIX> but how the hell do you use tnt?
#2709 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> place it, hit it to detonate
#2710 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Or power it with redstone to detonate
#2711 [18:08] <PH0ENIX> i heat it detonate, but its not blowing up the rock....
#2712 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Um, running any mods?
#2713 [18:08] <PH0ENIX> no
#2714 [18:08] <PH0ENIX> i think the sales in this server are glitched
#2715 [18:09] <PH0ENIX> so i got alot, maybe the items are broken
#2716 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> The server may be running a TNT-nerf mod
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#2718 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> ie, worldguard, or the like
#2719 [18:09] <PH0ENIX> which is?
#2720 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Stops people from using/griefing with tnt, stops creepers from deforming the terrain
#2721 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> that sort of stuff
#2722 [18:10] <PH0ENIX> so you cant blow up rock?
#2723 [18:10] <PH0ENIX> as a side note, the tnt kills me
#2724 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how the server admin setup the plugin
#2725 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> It's an option they can enable
#2726 [18:10] <PH0ENIX> thats annoying
#2727 [18:10] <PH0ENIX> all this tnt and cant use it
#2728 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Some people don't like TNT/creepers.
#2729 [18:11] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2729 [18:11] <Marth> still having connection issues and i have the port forwardign right im sure
#2730 [18:11] <PH0ENIX> sissies.
#2731 [18:11] <chCHE> does anyone know why my webbrowser freezes when i try to connect to a server?
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#2737 [18:28] <MertenNor> does a Minecraft version of Zelda1 compleat map exit ?
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#2739 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> MertenNor - Yes
#2740 [18:33] <MertenNor> GreyVulpine: link ?
#2741 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> http://kotaku.com/#!5716864/minecraft-a-link-to-the-past
#2742 [18:35] <MertenNor> thats "A Link To The Past"
#2743 [18:35] <MertenNor> xD
#2744 [18:35] <MertenNor> and no download xD
#2745 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#2746 [18:36] <AkiTensai> Want.
#2747 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/general-zelda/117707-hyrule-recreated-in-minecraft-nes-zelda-1-a.html
#2748 [18:38] <MertenNor> GreyVulpine: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=128981
#2749 [18:38] <MertenNor> :)
#2750 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> mrah
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#2753 [18:46] <roozor> Kealper, i'm using the standard minecraft exe server, with my world
#2754 [18:46] <roozor> i'm laggy and i'm getting Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#2755 [18:46] <roozor> in teh server box
#2756 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> roozor - A few times isn't out of the ordinary with the server
#2757 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> It's only if it's spamming it should you be concerned
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#2759 [18:50] <roozor> hmm, well my bro can connect to the serv i'm running
#2760 [18:50] <roozor> and he says it's playable
#2761 [18:50] <roozor> but i can't join
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#2763 [18:57] <chCHE> does anyone know anything about java and webbrowsers?
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#2765 [19:05] * aetherian sips his tea slowly
#2765 [19:05] <aetherian> chCHE: what exactly are you curious about?
#2766 [19:06] <chCHE> firefox freezes when i try to connect to a mincraftserver
#2767 [19:06] <chCHE> and so does chrome
#2768 [19:07] <aetherian> and you have java installed, I presume
#2769 [19:07] <chCHE> yeah
#2770 [19:08] <chCHE> it freezes when i use something javarelated
#2771 [19:08] <aetherian> mmm
#2772 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall of java?
#2773 [19:08] <chCHE> already done that
#2774 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Completely uninstall?
#2775 [19:08] <chCHE> same story
#2776 [19:08] <chCHE> yeah
#2777 [19:09] <chCHE> its really strange, cuz ive been playin all day and havent had any problems
#2778 [19:09] <chCHE> until i needed reconnect
#2779 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> By "something java related", do you mean all java apps? or just minecraft?
#2780 [19:11] <chCHE> well, ive only tried minecraft
#2781 [19:11] <chCHE> and javas check if it installed correctly
#2782 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Try a..
#2783 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#2784 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> and a lwjgl demo at http://lwjgl.org/applet/
#2785 [19:11] <chCHE> and there it froze again
#2786 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Of..?
#2787 [19:12] <chCHE> the first link
#2788 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Then something's wrong with your java..
#2789 [19:14] <chCHE> yaa i know
#2790 [19:14] <chCHE> i've uninstalled it and installed it several times now, still same results
#2791 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Have you done anything further, or more advanced with uninstalling java?
#2792 [19:15] <chCHE> nope
#2793 [19:15] <chCHE> rebooted once :D
#2794 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Try uninstalling java, installing CCleaner to remove unused registry entries, and remove the java directory?
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#2800 [19:30] <smetty02> hi im having problems having external players connecting to my server is there anyone who can help me
#2801 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> What problems?
#2802 [19:30] <oldtopman> !check 72-22-127-188
#2803 [19:31] <smetty02> cant get anyone to connect when i type in my ip says connection refused "connect
#2804 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Did you port forward?
#2805 [19:31] <oldtopman> !check 72.22.127.188
#2806 [19:31] <oldtopman> You need to port-forward
#2807 [19:31] <smetty02> i do that threw my router right ?
#2808 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2809 [19:32] <oldtopman> And you have to do it whrough your gateway as well
#2810 [19:32] <oldtopman> If they aren't one and the same ofc
#2811 [19:32] <smetty02> no i use a linksys router and i belive the gateway is the dsl modem right ?
#2812 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Only if the modem is a combination modem/router
#2813 [19:33] <oldtopman> smetty02: You may have to do a DMZ rule on your gateway
#2814 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> No, you don't oldtopman.
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#2816 [19:33] <oldtopman> GreyVuipine: I did.
#2817 [19:33] <smetty02> i use a linksys e 1000 router
#2818 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, but a DMZ rule is a, "Leave this computer outside the firewall altogether" rule.. it's only used if nothing else works
#2819 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - You'll want to configure the linksys router to port forward 25565/TCP to your computer's internal IP address
#2820 [19:36] <smetty02> alright as i have it now
#2821 [19:36] <smetty02> its external is 25565 internal 25565
#2822 [19:36] <smetty02> tcp
#2823 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Alright...
#2824 [19:36] <smetty02> 192.168.0.123
#2825 [19:37] <smetty02> i think i might have my problem fix i think i had the wrong ip forwarded
#2826 [19:38] <smetty02> and another question if i shut down the gui with out using the stop command
#2827 [19:38] <smetty02> will it keep the server running in the back ground
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#2829 [19:39] <chCHE> hmm
#2830 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Nope
#2831 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> If you get into a car, start it up, go on the highway, then take the key out, will the car still drive?
#2832 [19:40] <smetty02> sometimes i get a failed to bind to port what causes this error
#2833 [19:40] <smetty02> defintaly not
#2834 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Because you've got an ip in the server-ip line of server.properties
#2835 [19:40] <smetty02> ahh ok
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#2837 [19:41] <Thyraxx> anyone can help me to fix the black screen when I try to run minecraft on unbuntu 10.10
#2838 [19:41] <chCHE> java sucks :<
#2839 [19:42] <Thyraxx> yeah
#2840 [19:42] <xales> Thyraxx: Install the correct driver
#2841 [19:42] <Thyraxx> what driver ?
#2842 [19:42] <Thyraxx> you mean java ?
#2843 [19:42] <Thyraxx> I have sun java 6
#2844 [19:43] <xales> No, I mean driver
#2845 [19:43] <Thyraxx> wich driver ?
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#2847 [19:43] <xales> System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
#2848 [19:43] <xales> (might be called Additional drivers)
#2849 [19:43] <xales> what do you see in there?
#2850 [19:43] <Thyraxx> its loading
#2851 [19:43] <Thyraxx> *Searching
#2852 [19:44] <Thyraxx> I see driver for my graphic card atm
#2853 [19:44] <chCHE> is there a way to get the ip from a server in the serverlist?
#2854 [19:44] <xales> chCHE: I am not aware of it if there is
#2855 [19:44] <xales> Thyraxx: You need to enable that, then
#2856 [19:44] <chCHE> hmm
#2857 [19:45] <chCHE> java doesnt work for me so i thougt to join trough the client :<
#2858 [19:45] <Thyraxx> yeah that what im doin
#2859 [19:45] <Thyraxx> stupid me, I never tough about driver ...
#2860 [19:46] <chCHE> srsly how can java just stop working!?
#2861 [19:47] <xales> chCHE: Are you talking about Classic servers?
#2862 [19:47] <smetty02> hmm thats still not working it acts if it is going to connect then stays timed out
#2863 [19:47] <chCHE> ive been playin the whole day, disconnect cuz of serverreboot, reconnect, java kills webbrowser
#2864 [19:47] * xales waits for an answer to his question
#2864 [19:47] <chCHE> yea
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#2866 [19:50] <Thyraxx> HOLY SHIT
#2867 [19:50] <Thyraxx> xales
#2868 [19:51] <Thyraxx> I love you
#2869 [19:51] <Thyraxx> (L)
#2870 [19:51] <chCHE> damn, at first i could get to the connecting-part, now i cant load any javarelated page :<
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#2872 [19:57] <smetty02> grey ihave the router forwarded properly but i still cannont connect with an external ip
#2873 [19:57] <smetty02> any other suggestions
#2874 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Walk me through your ip config. Are you sure your server's ip address is 192.168.0.123?
#2875 [19:59] <smetty02> my ip should be 77.22.127.188
#2876 [19:59] <smetty02> and then the ipv4 given in the ipconfig is 192.168.0.123
#2877 [19:59] <smetty02> 121 sorry
#2878 [19:59] <smetty02> sorry im typing things in wrong let me start over
#2879 [20:00] <smetty02> the ip ip chicken is giving me is 72.22.127.188
#2880 [20:00] <smetty02> the ipv4 ipconfig is giving me is 192.168.0.121
#2881 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> smetty02: pastebin your server.properties file.
#2882 [20:01] <smetty02> #Minecraft server properties #Tue Apr 05 23:17:08 CDT 2011 level-name=world hellworld=false spawn-monsters=true online-mode=true spawn-animals=true max-players=20 server-ip= pvp=true level-seed= server-port=25565 white-list=false server-= spawn-protection=16
#2883 [20:01] <aetherian> sigh
#2884 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> bin. pastebin
#2885 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> anyhow, the ip line looks correcct
#2886 [20:01] <smetty02> sorry im new to this how do i do that
#2887 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> !check 72.22.127.188
#2888 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> ??>> smetty02 pastebin
#2889 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> It's alright.
#2890 [20:02] <aetherian> pastebin.com is where one can pastebin, I doso believe.
#2891 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - In your linksys router, can you go to the status page? What is the wan/internet IP listed there?
#2892 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> smetty02: could you put a screenshot of your router's port forwarding settings up somehwere for us to look at?
#2893 [20:02] <smetty02> no but i can hold on
#2894 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.0.x is not the normal subnet for a linksys router
#2895 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking double nat
#2896 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> damn, another chunk of tooth. Good thing I'm already going to Dr. Toothy tomorrow.
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#2898 [20:03] * aetherian eats some toast
#2898 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> Damn you people who are able to chew without pain.
#2899 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry.
#2900 [20:03] <smetty02> my internet ip is 192.168.1.2
#2901 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> There you go
#2902 [20:04] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: what, did you get teeth removed or something?
#2903 [20:04] <smetty02> is that the ip i need to use ?
#2904 [20:04] <smetty02> for external ppl to connect also ?
#2905 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> No. The thing is, your linksys router is behind another modem/router
#2906 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to port forward again
#2907 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Can you please go to 192.168.1.1 via your browser
#2908 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: finally have dental insurance. I have two broken teeth I've been nursing for a while that have been slowly shedding bits of themselves.
#2909 [20:04] <aetherian> ...ow
#2910 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> Yesterday was the preliminary screening; tomorrow I go in for the double-extraction and other Fun Things
#2911 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> fortunately, I'm starting the day off with some valium
#2912 [20:05] <aetherian> here, have some nice juicy steak
#2913 [20:05] * DopeGhoti loves steak
#2913 [20:05] <smetty02> says dsl router
#2914 [20:05] <smetty02> so im guessing i do have a router/modem
#2915 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Yup, can you please look into port forwardin gon that DSL router?
#2916 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Or give us screenshots so we can help
#2917 [20:06] * DopeGhoti stops flooding the channel with dental woes and lets GreyVulpine work his magic
#2917 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> It's alright DopeGhoti.
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#2919 [20:06] <smetty02> its asking for a name and password that i dont think i have
#2920 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> I know your pain
#2921 [20:06] <smetty02> do i need to contact my isp for that ?
#2922 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Can you please tell us what brand/model of your modem?
#2923 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> is*
#2924 [20:06] <smetty02> 1 sec let me look
#2925 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> Snowcat34: try no user, password 'admin'
#2926 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I screwed that sentence up
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#2928 [20:07] <Juan> i am trying to understand the beta format. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Beta_Level_Format#Structure Are the first three bytes for chunk location offset intended to be a 24 bit integer?
#2929 [20:07] <smetty02> comtrend
#2930 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Try root/12345
#2931 [20:08] <smetty02> no user and the password admin didnt work
#2932 [20:08] <smetty02> that worked
#2933 [20:08] <aetherian> 12345 is my password for everything :D
#2934 [20:09] <smetty02> lol
#2935 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Alright, if you can, look for port forwarding. You'll want to port forward 25565-25565 to your router's 192.168.1.2 address
#2936 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> That way, your router's 192.168.0.1 can port forward 25565 to your server's 192.168.0.121 address
#2937 [20:09] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at double-NATs
#2937 [20:09] <smetty02> gotcha now is port mapping the same as forwarding i do not see a forwarding
#2938 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> If you can, screenshot that page so we can be sure.
#2939 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Upload it at imgur.com
#2940 [20:12] <smetty02> http://i.imgur.com/j8koc.jpg
#2941 [20:13] <smetty02> some of these expand so ill expand the others for u
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#2945 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Alright. You'll want to go to advanced setup, go to virtual servers
#2946 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Under the NAT heading
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#2948 [20:14] <smetty02> alright in there minecraft is there
#2949 [20:14] <smetty02> one going to 192.168.0.123
#2950 [20:14] <smetty02> and one going to 192.168.0.1
#2951 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Nope, you'll want to have it port forward to 192.168.2.1
#2952 [20:14] <mudpit> guys, i cant connect to minecraft multiplayer. whenever i type in the IP address of the desired server i wish to play with, it ALWAYS says (after 30 seconds of waiting) failed to connect: server and says that the connection has timed out. how can i fix this/what should i do?D:
#2953 [20:14] <smetty02> alright
#2954 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> wait... no
#2955 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.1.2
#2956 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> 1.2 is your router's ip address
#2957 [20:15] <Bad_Boy12300> so...
#2958 [20:15] <Bad_Boy12300> im trying to buy minecraft
#2959 [20:15] <Bad_Boy12300> andddddddddd
#2960 [20:15] <Bad_Boy12300> Transaction error
#2961 [20:15] <Bad_Boy12300> An error occured and your purchase was not completed
#2962 [20:15] <Bad_Boy12300> Message from server: server error (contact Verifyeasy)
#2963 [20:15] <Bad_Boy12300> If you need to contact the shop please use the following reference ID: 115877183
#2964 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> dear god
#2965 [20:16] <Bad_Boy12300> keep getting that error
#2966 [20:16] <Bad_Boy12300> o.O
#2967 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Bad_Boy12300 - try paypal
#2968 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Still there?
#2969 [20:16] <Bad_Boy12300> dont have one
#2970 [20:16] <Bad_Boy12300> using my moms credit card
#2971 [20:16] <Bad_Boy12300> l
#2972 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> You can use credit cards in paypal
#2973 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to make a paypal account
#2974 [20:17] <Bad_Boy12300> kk
#2975 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - ?
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#2977 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> hermanboat - Welcome. Are you using minecraftskins.com?
#2978 [20:18] <hermanboat> yeah
#2979 [20:18] <hermanboat> well skindex
#2980 [20:18] <smetty02> and the ip i should use is 72.22.127.188
#2981 [20:18] <smetty02> ya
#2982 [20:18] <smetty02> im still here
#2983 [20:18] <smetty02> still not working hmm
#2984 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> That's the problem. Download it from the website.
#2985 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Don't use minecraftskins.com to upload it directly
#2986 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Then use your profile page at minecraft.net to upload the skin
#2987 [20:18] <hermanboat> ok...
#2988 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - In your DSL modem, I misspoke.
#2989 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Port forward 25565-25565 to 192.168.1.2
#2990 [20:19] <smetty02> ill give u another screen of what i have
#2991 [20:19] <hermanboat> so how should i download it?
#2992 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> On the right side, there's a picture of a drive with an arrow pointing down
#2993 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> That's the picture for downloading
#2994 [20:20] <hermanboat> is that what i should use?
#2995 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2996 [20:20] <Bad_Boy12300> ty GreyVulpine ^^
#2997 [20:20] <Bad_Boy12300> worked
#2998 [20:20] <smetty02> http://imgur.com/zNg6m
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#3000 [20:20] * GreyVulpine nods
#3000 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Remove the first 2
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#3002 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> The last one is right.
#3003 [20:21] <hermanboat> so what do i do with it
#3004 [20:22] <hermanboat> it just brings a picture up
#3005 [20:22] <smetty02> that was from me not grey
#3006 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> hermanboat - Is it a small rectangular picture in the upper left
#3007 [20:22] <hermanboat> no
#3008 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> hermanboat - Each skin has a series of icons on the right side. did you use those?
#3009 [20:24] <hermanboat> yeah
#3010 [20:24] <hermanboat> i used the one with the arrow pointing down
#3011 [20:24] <hermanboat> like you told me to
#3012 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Did you choose the option to save to your computer?
#3013 [20:25] <hermanboat> it doesnt give me a option
#3014 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Um.
#3015 [20:25] <hermanboat> the picture of it just comes up
#3016 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Okay...
#3017 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Can you right click on the picture, and choose to save it to your computer?
#3018 [20:26] <hermanboat> no
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#3020 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> I'm a little confused here.
#3021 [20:27] <hermanboat> ...
#3022 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> When you click on the little icon with the blue arrow pointing down, you're downloading that .png file from the site. It should either give you a prompt, or show you the picture
#3023 [20:28] <hermanboat> it shows me the picture
#3024 [20:28] <hermanboat> i said that like 5 times
#3025 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Then, you should be able to right click on the picture, and save it to your computer
#3026 [20:29] <hermanboat> ok its saved
#3027 [20:29] <hermanboat> what should i do now?
#3028 [20:29] <AG_Scott> Don't you ever get tired of just helping people GreyVulpine?
#3029 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> At times, I just want to rage and hide out in some other channel for a week
#3030 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> hermanboat - Go to minecraft.net, log in, go to your profile page
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#3032 [20:30] <AG_Scott> I don't see how you do it.
#3033 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> There, you should be able to see an option to choose and upload that skin you just got
#3034 [20:30] <AG_Scott> I get paid to do it and I want to rip my hair out.
#3035 [20:30] <smetty02> i feels bad now lol
#3036 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> AG_Scott - This is what I used to get paid for as well. It keeps my skills sharp, and I like to do it as a hobby.
#3037 [20:31] <AG_Scott> Whacky hobby :(
#3038 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> It's how I got one of my previous jobs, if you can believe it.
#3039 [20:31] <smetty02> grey when u get a moment i still need to pick your brain
#3040 [20:31] <AG_Scott> One of the guys works for Cablevision as ISP tech support.
#3041 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Ask away
#3042 [20:31] <AG_Scott> I think he's about to ragequit lol
#3043 [20:31] <smetty02> it still not letting me me connect with the 72.22.127.188 ip
#3044 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Okay. let me start from the absolute beginning smetty02
#3045 [20:32] <smetty02> alright\
#3046 [20:32] <hermanboat> ok that worked ty
#3047 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Your server's internal ip address is 192.168.0.121, correct?
#3048 [20:32] <smetty02> right
#3049 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> hermanboat - Sure thing.
#3050 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> you went to 192.168.0.1, your linksys router, to port forward 25565/TCP to your 0.121 address
#3051 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> You then checked your router's status page, which lead you to see that your linksys router's WAN ip is 192.168.1.2
#3052 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> You went to 192.168.1.1, your DSL modem/router, to port forward 25565/TCP to 192.168.1.2
#3053 [20:33] <mudpit> guys, i cant connect to minecraft multiplayer. whenever i type in the IP address of the desired server i wish to play with, it ALWAYS s ays (after 30 seconds of waiting) failed to connect: server and says that the connection has timed out. how can i fix this/what should i do?D:
#3054 [20:33] <smetty02> yep so far all correct
#3055 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Then, you showed me the DSL modem's page.. which had..
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#3057 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> No, never mind, it didn't show me your public IP address
#3058 [20:35] <smetty02> ok is that what u need to see and how do i find it
#3059 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Nope, I can just find out here.. one moment
#3060 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> 72.22.127.188
#3061 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> That's your public ip address you used, right?
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#3063 [20:35] <smetty02> thats the on ipchicken gives me
#3064 [20:35] <smetty02> so im guessing yes
#3065 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Alright.
#3066 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> From what I see, your port forwarding is set up correctly.
#3067 [20:36] <smetty02> i can give u a picture of my linksys portfowrading if need be
#3068 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> If you think it'll help, sure.
#3069 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> If it's not port forwarding, it narrows it down to either a security software on your computer that's blocking the connection, or your ISP is filtering it.
#3070 [20:38] <smetty02> http://imgur.com/9R1FZ
#3071 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> That looks right to me
#3072 [20:38] <smetty02> filtering what though im a little confused on that one
#3073 [20:39] <smetty02> cuz i have connected on many different minecraft servers before
#3074 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Some (discount/smaller) ISPs also do NAT at the residential gateway level. Nothing you can do about that
#3075 [20:39] <smetty02> so just screwed on that ?
#3076 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> If you're one of the unlucky people that have that ISP, yes.. but we haven't gotten to that yet
#3077 [20:40] <smetty02> kk
#3078 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Have you looked at the security software on your computer?
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#3080 [20:40] <smetty02> im not running the windows firewall and im not running a 3rd party firewall
#3081 [20:41] <smetty02> as much as it pains me to say that publicly lol
#3082 [20:41] <xales> If you are behind a router, a firewall does virtually nothing
#3083 [20:41] <smetty02> well dats good to know :P
#3084 [20:42] <smetty02> grey what other software do i need to look for ?
#3085 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
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#3087 [20:42] <smetty02> and i think after helping me i might make u go to another channel for a week ><
#3088 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> You're absolutely sure there's no other firewall on the computer running the server?
#3089 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Nah, I'll still be here.
#3090 [20:43] <smetty02> im running it on the computer i am now
#3091 [20:43] <smetty02> off my home pc
#3092 [20:43] <smetty02> and i dont run a firewall that i know of anyways
#3093 [20:43] <smetty02> i havent started one and i have turned off windows firewall
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#3095 [20:44] <tpw_rules> hellp
#3096 [20:44] <tpw_rules> hello*
#3097 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> 'lo tpw_rules
#3098 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Try.. connecting with 192.168.1.2?
#3099 [20:45] <tpw_rules> i recently got a new computer with an SSD and have been having massive problems with minecraft. it runs so slow and so laggy it's not even funny. the computer is quite powerful, so it's probably not that. i moved my save directory to an external hard drive and that plays fine. can somebody make the effort to get minecraft to work okay on ssds?
#3100 [20:45] <smetty02> takes my to my linksys router
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#3102 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> er, via your minecraft client, when you have the server running, sorry.
#3103 [20:45] <rynothedino> help me
#3104 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - With?
#3105 [20:45] <smetty02> ok
#3106 [20:45] <rynothedino> how i get mods?
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#3108 [20:45] <rynothedino> how i get mods on beta?
#3109 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=12352
#3110 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Read that, each mod has its own install procedure
#3111 [20:46] <smetty02> it conected me to the server grey
#3112 [20:46] <rynothedino> ok
#3113 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Okay..
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#3115 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - Here's another list of mods: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=93171
#3116 [20:47] <tpw_rules> or rather, is there anything i can do to unbreak it?
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#3118 [20:47] <tpw_rules> should i file a report on the bugtracker?
#3119 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> tpw_rules - Try a search on getsatisfaction, see if anybody else is reporting it
#3120 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Are you using the vanilla version of the server?
#3121 [20:48] <chCHE> finnaly
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#3123 [20:48] <chCHE> got it to work
#3124 [20:48] <rynothedino> is there a way to get alpha for free
#3125 [20:48] <smetty02> im using bukkit but i do get the same results as the server u download off of the minecraft.net site
#3126 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> By alpha, you mean the latest survival/beta build?
#3127 [20:49] <tpw_rules> doesn't seem to be any topics on it, should i file a request?
#3128 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> tpw_rules - Couldn't tell you if mojang actually looks at that thing anymore.
#3129 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - Hmm, what ISP are you on?
#3130 [20:50] <smetty02> i go threw north central telephone corp which i belive goes threw bluegrass.net
#3131 [20:51] <rynothedino> GreyVulpine do all mods work with beta?
#3132 [20:51] <xales> rynothedino: We don't offer support for mods. If you want to install a mod, read the instructions on it's forum thread. If it does not say it is compatible with the beta, then it isn't
#3133 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - That's up to the person making/maintaining the mod
#3134 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> smetty02 - I'm connected to your server right now
#3135 [20:53] <rynothedino> GreyVulpine the one stop mod shop does not say if it is capible for beta dont think
#3136 [20:53] <tpw_rules> GreyVulpine: is there any better way to contact mojang then?
#3137 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> tpw_rules - I don't know if they provide that sort of support.
#3138 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> You can try at support@mojang.com
#3139 [20:54] <rynothedino> GreyVulpine i have minecraft 1.4 so i cant use it
#3140 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - Use.. what?
#3141 [20:54] <tpw_rules> GreyVulpine: okay
#3142 [20:54] <tpw_rules> i guess i'll play off my external drive then
#3143 [20:54] <tpw_rules> i mostly play on servers, so it doesn't matter too much
#3144 [20:55] <tpw_rules> goodbye and thank you
#3145 [20:55] <rynothedino> GreyVulpine i am using minecraft 1.4 therfore i cant use the one stop mod shops mods unless i downgrade
#3146 [20:56] <xales> rynothedino: That's not our problem. We don't offer any support for mods, as they are unofficial third party modifications. If you do not have your own copy of an older version, then you cannot downgrade
#3147 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - No, it's just a giant list of different mods
#3148 [20:56] <smetty02> grey thanks again so much
#3149 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#3150 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> As xales stated, we have no connection to third-party mods. Those mods are maintained by individuals, not Mojang.
#3151 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> It's up to those individuals to update it with Minecraft
#3152 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> The one stop mod shop, is just a fan-compiled list of mods
#3153 [20:58] <rynothedino> ok
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#3155 [20:59] <Thazul> Hello, is anybody willing to help me with a small problem i'm having? It's about creating a minecraft server
#3156 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> What problem?
#3157 [20:59] <rynothedino> GreyVulpine so there is no way to use any mods at the moment if i updated
#3158 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> No, I didn't say that. It's up to the mod's creator to update it with minecraft.
#3159 [21:00] <Thazul> Well, when i double click the Bat. file, CMD shows up. it says setting up, loading level, now accepting input on 255565, level saved 0/16
#3160 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Many modders do keep up with minecraft's development
#3161 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> It's completely on a mod-by-mod basis if it's compatible with 1.4
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#3163 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Thazul - You're running classic?
#3164 [21:00] <Thazul> Yeah
#3165 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Alright.. continue.
#3166 [21:01] <Thazul> Wait hold on
#3167 [21:01] <Thazul> Gonna try something, i'll be back if i need help
#3168 [21:04] <rynothedino> GreyVulpine yay i think i just downloaded downgraded version'
#3169 [21:06] <xales> rynothedino: That is illegal, just FYI. Don't talk about it here or you can leave
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#3173 [21:13] <rynothedino> xales oh nvm it didnt work anyways
#3174 [21:13] <Longfellow110> Would anyone be able to tell me how to change the spawn location on my server? Running Bukkit
#3175 [21:14] <rynothedino> does anyone know mods that work with 1.4
#3176 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Longfellow110 - Either with a bukkit plugin, or a map editor
#3177 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - It depends on the mod
#3178 [21:14] <Longfellow110> Okay, thank you
#3179 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> There is no comprehensive list
#3180 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft changes so fast, that many modders don't keep up with it.
#3181 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Just noticed.. the mod list is broken down into version compatibilities
#3182 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=93171
#3183 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> "Mods that work with client version: Beta 1.4_01"
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#3186 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, interesting. #bukkit's got a discussion on a potential exploit in the vanilla server.
#3187 [21:20] <Kealper> O.o
#3188 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> <kingnerd> Lymia, I just told you. He is using an exploit in vanilla MC to crash our servers for money.
#3189 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> <kingnerd> http://pastebin.com/JH2mhQu1 - Member of the Bukkit community crashing servers for money using an exploit in Vanilla MC.
#3190 [21:23] <Kealper> ohmy
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#3192 [21:24] <Kealper> so....
#3193 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Drama, basically.
#3194 [21:25] <Kealper> this guy is able to take down minecraft servers whenever he wants?
#3195 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> From what little I can gather, his own corebukkit build?
#3196 [21:26] <Kealper> well...what this looks like to me...
#3197 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> I don't know
#3198 [21:27] <Kealper> is the person has modded the latest craftbukkit to let 1.3 clients enter the 1.4 server....
#3199 [21:27] * GreyVulpine nods
#3199 [21:27] <Kealper> and dramanubs don't want his custom craftbukkit running on reddit's servers...
#3200 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Apparently... and he just spoke up in #bukkit
#3201 [21:27] <Kealper> so he apparently knows of an exploit for servers that i would assume crashes them
#3202 [21:27] <rynothedino> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=93171 does not have the tut on how to install each
#3203 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - no, it provides a link to each mod. It's up to you to look at the mod indivdually.
#3204 [21:28] <Kealper> rynothedino: we're not a depot for mod help, direct your iquiries at #risucraft
#3205 [21:28] <Kealper> lol he just quit
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#3207 [21:28] <Kealper> or not
#3208 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Each mod has its own install instructions
#3209 [21:29] <Zidonuke> Crashing Minecraft Servers top 100: http://www.livestream.com/zidonuke
#3210 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> And.. why should we even give you a passing glance?
#3211 [21:31] * Kealper kicked Zidonuke from #minecrafthelp (Reason: You're real cool now!)
#3212 [21:31] <Kealper> whoops
#3213 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Thanks Kealper
#3214 [21:31] <Kealper> that was only meant to be a kick
#3215 [21:31] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#3215 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Good enough
#3216 [21:31] <Kealper> what a fucking dick though
#3217 [21:32] <Kealper> are you watching that?
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#3219 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> No I'm not
#3220 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> I'm not going to give him the satisfaction of one increased view count
#3221 [21:33] <Kealper> it's a custom client that he joins and types a connect
#3222 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> ...
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#3224 [21:34] <Kealper> Minefield is awesome because i can record it with fraps
#3225 [21:35] <Kealper> wow.....
#3226 [21:35] <Kealper> this is pretty serious
#3227 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> ...?
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#3229 [21:37] <OldSnake> Hey all, i need some help with a server problem
#3230 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> What problem?
#3231 [21:38] <OldSnake> i have 25565 open on my router as TCP
#3232 [21:38] <OldSnake> but when i run my server i cant connect
#3233 [21:38] <OldSnake> the server starts up right and everything
#3234 [21:39] <OldSnake> no errors
#3235 [21:39] <OldSnake> 25565 is in the server.properties
#3236 [21:39] <rynothedino> help me?
#3237 [21:39] <OldSnake> it started after 1.4
#3238 [21:39] <rynothedino> help me please?
#3239 [21:39] <chCHE> damn
#3240 [21:39] <OldSnake> i have 192.168.1.147 open on my router as the to IP
#3241 [21:40] <chCHE> java ffs, it got my browser again
#3242 [21:40] <chCHE> <.<
#3243 [21:40] <xales> OldSnake: Are you able to connect using 'localhost'?
#3244 [21:40] <OldSnake> but i can't put that in the server properties since it fucks up the server
#3245 [21:40] <OldSnake> yes
#3246 [21:40] <xales> Did you put an IP address in the server.properties file?
#3247 [21:40] <OldSnake> no
#3248 [21:41] <xales> Did your IP change?
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#3250 [21:41] <OldSnake> no
#3251 [21:42] <OldSnake> whats the command to check if my server is running in this chat?
#3252 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> it's !check
#3253 [21:42] <OldSnake> !check 98.28.12.70
#3254 [21:42] <rynothedino> hello can someone help me
#3255 [21:42] <OldSnake> !check 98.28.12.70
#3256 [21:43] <OldSnake> thats taken directly form whatsmyip.com
#3257 [21:43] <OldSnake> in the 192.168.1.*** does it matter what the last 3 are?
#3258 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Alright, walk us through your port forwarding, start from the beginning
#3259 [21:43] <OldSnake> for opening the port
#3260 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3261 [21:43] <rynothedino> help me please some one!!!@@!#!@
#3262 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - With?
#3263 [21:43] <OldSnake> what is it?
#3264 [21:44] <rynothedino> ty finally
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#3266 [21:44] <rynothedino> were is a room i get mod help
#3267 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - #risucraft
#3268 [21:44] <rynothedino> ugh kk
#3269 [21:44] <OldSnake> what do i have the set the last 3 digits as?
#3270 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> OldSnake - Whatever the computer running the server is set to
#3271 [21:45] <OldSnake> how can i check it?
#3272 [21:46] <OldSnake> isnt it like the IPv4 address?
#3273 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> OldSnake - What operating system are you on?
#3274 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes it is
#3275 [21:46] <OldSnake> vista 64 bit
#3276 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, it's the ipv4 address of ipconfig
#3277 [21:48] <rynothedino> wow
#3278 [21:48] <OldSnake> thanks!
#3279 [21:48] <rynothedino> they banned me from #risucraft cuz i was asking a question
#3280 [21:48] <OldSnake> it worked
#3281 [21:48] <rynothedino> this guys like what ryno then some one banned me
#3282 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - Yeah, I think they're a little tired of people asking for help there
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#3284 [21:49] <rynothedino> i just wana know how to add my mods into my minecraft
#3285 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - What mod?
#3286 [21:49] <rynothedino> they said not to use a modmanager
#3287 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Where did you get it?
#3288 [21:49] <rynothedino> idk
#3289 [21:49] <rynothedino> just ... any
#3290 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> what do you mean you don't know?
#3291 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Name one
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#3293 [21:50] <rynothedino> closed it gotta find again
#3294 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Some mods require mod loader, some don't.
#3295 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> You generally need to open the minecraft.jar file in your .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar file
#3296 [21:51] <rynothedino> and drag em to it?
#3297 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3298 [21:51] <rynothedino> what if there are multiple files in the foler?
#3299 [21:52] <rynothedino> and how do i choose what ones i wana use
#3300 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft.jar file is a zip file of java files, you'll need to replace/insert them
#3301 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> It depends on the mod
#3302 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Some do, some don't play nice with other mods
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#3304 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Mods are NOT officially supported.
#3305 [21:52] <rynothedino> how do i choose what ones i wana use
#3306 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Depends on which one you install
#3307 [21:53] <rynothedino> kk
#3308 [21:54] <rynothedino> grey u got any good mods?
#3309 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> I don't use mods
#3310 [21:54] <rynothedino> oh
#3311 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Saves me the headache of uninstalling them each time minecraft updates
#3312 [21:55] <rynothedino> well i have a file with tons of mods in it
#3313 [21:55] <rynothedino> wups
#3314 [21:55] <LG_Legacy> So.
#3315 [21:56] <LG_Legacy> Cannot start java virtual machine. Minecraft, windows XP.
#3316 [21:56] <LG_Legacy> Ideas?
#3317 [21:56] <rynothedino> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30K6Hx6evAI&annotation_id=annotation_631837&feature=iv this comes with the mods i want how i get em there are mroe then one
#3318 [21:57] <rynothedino> actully http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJHWVaj-x1Q this is it
#3319 [21:57] <rynothedino> nvm they are alpha
#3320 [21:58] <LG_Legacy> No one?
#3321 [21:59] <rynothedino> Grey help me?
#3322 [21:59] <rynothedino> or LG
#3323 [21:59] <rynothedino> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=111753 how i get this mod
#3324 [22:00] <LG_Legacy> If i catch you acting like an idiot here too.
#3325 [22:00] <LG_Legacy> Don't think i won't ban you
#3326 [22:00] <chCHE> hmm now firefox crashes only when i want to join the server ive been playin on the whole time
#3327 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> LG_Legacy - Can't start virtual machine?
#3328 [22:00] <rynothedino> i just want help
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#3330 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - We really don't offer mod support here.
#3331 [22:01] <LG_Legacy> GreyBot: Yes. Can't start java virtual machine
#3332 [22:01] <LG_Legacy> Er
#3333 [22:01] <LG_Legacy> GreyVulpine*
#3334 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> LG_Legacy - Anything else with it?
#3335 [22:01] <LG_Legacy> rynothedino: One moment, i'll help you personally
#3336 [22:01] <rynothedino> Grey how i get this mod?http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=111753
#3337 [22:01] <LG_Legacy> GreyVulpine: Negative
#3338 [22:01] * LG_Legacy kicked rynothedino from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Stop asking)
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#3340 [22:02] <rynothedino> ...
#3341 [22:02] <LG_Legacy> I'll be nice.
#3342 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> LG_Legacy - Then, generally, it's an issue with java itself. You'll need to look into uninstalling/reinstalling java
#3343 [22:02] <rynothedino> Grey were can i get it LG banned from the room they do help in
#3344 [22:02] <LG_Legacy> This channel does not help with mod support, mod installing, or anything mod related.
#3345 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> rynothedino - LG_Legacy's been here longer than I have.
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#3347 [22:02] <LG_Legacy> rynothedino: Risugami banned you, not me.
#3348 [22:02] <LG_Legacy> I have no access to that channel
#3349 [22:02] <LG_Legacy> Risugami is the owner of that channel too
#3350 [22:03] <LG_Legacy> But please follow our rules.
#3351 [22:03] <rynothedino> !rules
#3352 [22:03] <LG_Legacy> ... We don't use bots here for rules.
#3353 [22:03] <LG_Legacy> Read the topic.
#3354 [22:04] <LG_Legacy> GreyVulpine: Done that
#3355 [22:04] <LG_Legacy> Didn't work
#3356 [22:04] <rynothedino> we;; then
#3357 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Can you do it in a terminal/command prompt?
#3358 [22:04] <rynothedino> can u help me with my server
#3359 [22:04] <rynothedino> or send me to a room tht helps with mods
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#3361 [22:04] <rynothedino> LG get him to unban me?
#3362 [22:05] <LG_Legacy> Ask him yourself
#3363 [22:05] <LG_Legacy> I have no affliation with that channel
#3364 [22:05] <LG_Legacy> GreyBot: what
#3365 [22:05] <LG_Legacy> Er
#3366 [22:05] <LG_Legacy> GreyVulpine
#3367 [22:05] <rynothedino> pft
#3368 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> LG_Legacy - Can you launch minecraft in a terminal or command prompt?
#3369 [22:05] <rynothedino> i quit i guess
#3370 [22:05] <LG_Legacy> Is that possible?
#3371 [22:05] <rynothedino> cya
#3372 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes LG_Legacy
#3373 [22:05] <LG_Legacy> Hm..
#3374 [22:05] <LG_Legacy> I didn't know
#3375 [22:05] <LG_Legacy> Do tell
#3376 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#3377 [22:06] <LG_Legacy> Not my issue, the users computer runs XP
#3378 [22:06] <rynothedino> BYE BYE ty Grey for all the help u gave me. LG u did nuthin for me so bye
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#3380 [22:06] * GreyVulpine sighs
#3380 [22:06] <LG_Legacy> Can i ban him?
#3381 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Up to you
#3382 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> LG_Legacy - A, "Cannot start java virtual machine" error by itself doesn't help me much, it generally gives a more verbose message in a command prompt
#3383 [22:07] <LG_Legacy> Negative
#3384 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to hit up the command prompt, (start -> run -> cmd) and launch minecraft.exe/jar in it
#3385 [22:08] <LG_Legacy> Wait you can launch the .exe with it?
#3386 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#3389 [22:10] <LG_Legacy> Hm..
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#3391 [22:10] <Ghost> Gooday
#3392 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3393 [22:11] <Guest1298> Mind answering a quick question for me?
#3394 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#3395 [22:11] <Guest1298> I'm simply looking for a single player mod that allows item spawning
#3396 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Single player commands will do that
#3397 [22:11] <Guest1298> I'm tired of dying constantly, and I'd just like to play a little safer.
#3398 [22:11] <Guest1298> Really?
#3399 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> "Single player commands" is the name of the mod
#3400 [22:12] <Guest1298> Ah
#3401 [22:12] <LG_Legacy> Hm
#3402 [22:12] <Guest1298> Much appreciated
#3403 [22:12] <LG_Legacy> However
#3404 [22:12] <LG_Legacy> If i may recommend
#3405 [22:12] <xolotl> Guest1298: You could always just invedit, of course
#3406 [22:12] <LG_Legacy> there is something called 'TooManyItems"
#3407 [22:12] <LG_Legacy> It's a in-game inventory editor
#3408 [22:12] <LG_Legacy> Just go to your inventory and press O and the item icons will appear
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#3410 [22:13] <joshsavage91> Hey, can someone help me with setting up iConomy? I have it installed, just dont know how to set prices for items when people sell/buy, etc.
#3411 [22:13] <LG_Legacy> joshsavage91: We don't help with mod installations.
#3412 [22:13] <LG_Legacy> Nor support.
#3413 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> You'll have better support for that in #bukkit
#3414 [22:14] <joshsavage91> Oh, alrighty. Sorry guys
#3415 [22:14] <Guest1298> xolotl: Well, whichever makes life easier on me as a person.
#3416 [22:14] <Guest1298> Installing, modifying, etc.
#3417 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> With invedit, you'll need to close minecraft each time you want to edit your inventory
#3418 [22:15] <xolotl> Guest1298: Well, it'd depend on how comfortable you are running mods, versus what GreyVulpine said
#3419 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> With other mods, you'll need to modify the minecraft.jar file
#3420 [22:15] <LG_Legacy> Once again.
#3421 [22:15] <xolotl> Personally I just don't trust mods, and think they're more trouble than they're worth, but that's just me
#3422 [22:15] <LG_Legacy> The in-game inventory editor is key.
#3423 [22:15] <LG_Legacy> If you install mods with more items? They can be accessed too.
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#3425 [22:16] <leaper> hi
#3426 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3427 [22:16] <Guest1298> Meh, cbf.
#3428 [22:16] <Guest1298> I'll just use Single Player commands
#3429 [22:16] <LG_Legacy> Cbf?
#3430 [22:16] <LG_Legacy> Enjoy typing out item id's :l
#3431 [22:16] <LG_Legacy> Or names
#3432 [22:16] <Guest1298> LG_Legacy: as three before m ;)
#3433 [22:16] <Guest1298> me*
#3434 [22:17] <Guest1298> Much appreciated, gents
#3435 [22:17] <leaper> hey does any one know where i can find the minecraft directory on my comp (its wondows 7)
#3436 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Press your Windows+R key, there, type in: %appdata%
#3437 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Look for your .minecraft folder, it may be in a roaming folder
#3438 [22:18] <Guest1298> Btw, GreyVulpine; thanks again. I've been here multiple times under multiple aliases, and you seem to be doing your job perfectly.
#3439 [22:18] <leaper> thank so much!!!
#3440 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Appreciate that, thanks.
#3441 [22:19] <leaper> well have a nice night thx again 4 the help
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#3444 [22:22] <Donny> If I made a world before wolves were released, will wolves spawn there after I patch?
#3445 [22:22] <xales> Yes
#3446 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> YEs
#3447 [22:23] <Donny> Thanks
#3448 [22:23] <Donny> They spawn in Tundra biomes, yes?
#3449 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wolf
#3450 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> "Wolves spawn in forest and taiga biomes"
#3451 [22:25] <Donny> Oh right. Forgot about the wiki for a bit.
#3452 [22:25] <Donny> Thanks.
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#3455 [22:39] <Dragonbut> Is Kealper here?
#3456 [22:39] <Dragonbut> Nvm XD
#3457 [22:39] <Dragonbut> Kealper
#3458 [22:39] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Whazzup?
#3459 [22:39] <Kealper> rather caught up in internal business, right now :/
#3460 [22:40] <World> ?? mods
#3461 [22:40] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3462 [22:40] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #RisuCraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3463 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> I dread the day when the official API comes out
#3464 [22:40] <Dragonbut> Nothin' you?
#3465 [22:40] <World> lol
#3466 [22:41] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Figured you came to #minecrafthelp looking for help
#3467 [22:41] <Dragonbut> Yeah, you run Ubuntu oldtopman?
#3468 [22:41] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Used to.
#3469 [22:42] <oldtopman> Drove me so mad and made me so angry, I kept switching linuxes until I got to SLackware
#3470 [22:42] <oldtopman> I can do what I want
#3471 [22:42] <Dragonbut> How do you start it? XD
#3472 [22:42] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: You used wubi?
#3473 [22:42] <Dragonbut> Restart computer?
#3474 [22:42] <Dragonbut> Yeah
#3475 [22:42] <oldtopman> Restart, then you will be presented with options:
#3476 [22:42] <oldtopman> <Your win$ version>
#3477 [22:43] <Dragonbut> Okay
#3478 [22:43] <oldtopman> Wubi flavor
#3479 [22:43] <Dragonbut> Ty :3
#3480 [22:43] <oldtopman> Select the wubi flavor
#3481 [22:43] <oldtopman> xchat is on there
#3482 [22:43] <World> my favorite wubi flavor is ham
#3483 [22:43] <oldtopman> I haves to go
#3484 [22:43] <oldtopman> The only good ubuntu is a dead one!
#3485 [22:43] <oldtopman> dohohohohohoho
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#3487 [22:44] <Dragonbut> Lol
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#3494 [23:27] <Diablothein> Servers down?
#3495 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> What servers?
#3496 [23:30] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Oh, you know. SERVERS.
#3497 [23:30] <xolotl> Always down all the time, amirite?
#3498 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Oh, of course.
#3499 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> It's down.
#3500 [23:31] <relsqui> lol
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#3503 [23:36] <zephism> hey guys, so i set up a server, opened the port, and am trying to connect with WoM client and i keep getting an unable to connect message
#3504 [23:36] <zephism> although now that i think of it, the server software is probably the new version
#3505 [23:36] <AG_Scott> That is not a supported client.
#3506 [23:36] <AG_Scott> Use the official client or don't come here for help.
#3507 [23:36] <zephism> or you could get off your high horse you fuck head
#3508 [23:36] <zephism> i don't want the new shit
#3509 [23:36] <zephism> i only want to play 0.3.0
#3510 [23:37] <zephism> and i only want to run an 0.3.0 server
#3511 [23:37] <Kealper> uhh...what's happening?
#3512 [23:37] <AG_Scott> Guy wants to use world of minecraft client.
#3513 [23:37] <AndrewPH|AFK> zephism, or you could get off your high horse you fuck head.
#3514 [23:37] <xolotl> zephism: Sorry, unofficial stuff simply isn't supported here
#3515 [23:37] <AG_Scott> and wants help for it lol.
#3516 [23:37] <zephism> ag scott
#3517 [23:37] <zephism> wom client used to be amazing
#3518 [23:38] <xolotl> zephism: It's not a high horse, it's reality.
#3519 [23:38] <zephism> before all you stupid 12 year olds decided that minecraft was amazing
#3520 [23:38] <zephism> and all this beta bullshit happened
#3521 [23:38] <zephism> minecraft was so much better a year or two ago
#3522 [23:38] <AG_Scott> Can someone just kb already?
#3523 [23:38] <zephism> and now it's just full of idiots and fanboys
#3524 [23:38] <zephism> who love zombies
#3525 [23:38] <Kealper> zephism: WoM client is a modded client, not from Mojang, we don't handle mods here
#3526 [23:38] <AndrewPH|AFK> zephism, I can guarentee I've been around longer than you :p
#3527 [23:38] <zephism> i mean come on, zombies? shit's stupid
#3528 [23:38] <AG_Elias> zephism: Troll elsewhere.
#3529 [23:38] <zephism> AndrewPH|AFK then you fail
#3530 [23:38] <zephism> i'm not trolling
#3531 [23:38] <zephism> you're all just fucking idiots for liking the beta
#3532 [23:38] <AndrewPH|AFK> zephism, then you fail
#3533 [23:38] <zephism> it's awful
#3534 [23:38] <AndrewPH|AFK> i'm not trolling
#3535 [23:38] * Kealper kicked zephism from #minecrafthelp (Reason: language)
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#3537 [23:38] <AG_Scott> lol.
#3538 [23:38] <xolotl> heh
#3539 [23:39] <Kealper> inb4 he spams me in query
#3540 [23:39] <Kealper> they always do >.>
#3541 [23:39] <xolotl> Kealper: What are you, some kind of Zombie apologist?
#3542 [23:39] <AndrewPH|AFK> 20:38 | > Quit: zephism/<<zephism@58-6-129-240.dyn.iinet.net.au>>/<<Quit: fuck you Kealper you stupid fucking faggot>>
#3543 [23:39] <AndrewPH|AFK> :p
#3544 [23:39] <Kealper> a bit of a low hit, but i've had worse lol
#3545 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, I missed some more fun.
#3546 [23:39] <relsqui> awww
#3547 [23:40] <relsqui> xolotl: have you heard my new band, the zombie apologists?
#3548 [23:40] <xolotl> Heh, that *is* a pretty good band name
#3549 [23:40] <relsqui> ^_^
#3550 [23:40] <xolotl> Some kind of indie band
#3551 [23:41] <xolotl> Three-piece, I think. Drums, guitar, and banjo.
#3552 [23:41] <xolotl> Someone get on this. Chop chop.
#3553 [23:42] <xolotl> I think they'd definitely avoid actual zombie references in their lyrics, though.
#3554 [23:42] <relsqui> yeah
#3555 [23:43] <relsqui> although maybe subtle references to misunderstood victims of genetic meddling
#3556 [23:43] <relsqui> or whatever.
#3557 [23:43] <relsqui> I don't know what zombie origin stories are popular these days
#3558 [23:49] <World> damn
#3559 [23:49] <World> I missed some fun too
#3560 [23:49] <World> can you invite him back so we can troll him then ban him again?
#3561 [23:50] <World> Anywhoo
#3562 [23:50] <World> I just installed wireshark and later I'm going to do some poking to see why the server performs so poorly in some cases.
#3563 [23:54] <Wug> holy jeebus
#3564 [23:54] <Wug> I get a ton of traffic