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#4 [00:10] <zaphism> by the way you stupid fucking cunts
#5 [00:10] <zaphism> i got it to work by myself
#6 [00:10] <zaphism> thanks for nothing
#7 [00:10] <zaphism> you're all faggots
#8 [00:10] <zaphism> i win
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#10 [00:11] <rf`> hey no problem :V
#11 [00:11] <xales> brb reporting ban evasion
#12 [00:11] <rf`> what was that all about
#13 [00:11] <xales> herp derp
#14 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> xales, if you're going to add a ban, at least make it somewhat useful
#15 [00:12] <rf`> can you replace the portal texture with an external png like you can with water and lava?
#16 [00:12] <xales> GreyVulpine: how is that not useful? :P
#17 [00:12] * GreyVulpine pffts
#17 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> rf` - I don't believe so...
#18 [00:13] <rf`> aww, kind of a shame :P
#19 [00:13] <rf`> i know you could probably replace it with a static image from terrain.png
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#30 [00:45] <shelby> so whenever i try to login it says login failed, and play offline is disabled and it says (not downloaded)
#31 [00:45] <xales> Login failed = incorrect username or password
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#33 [00:47] <shelby> but i know its correct, i even went on minecraft.net and changed my password
#34 [00:47] <xales> Run `cat /etc/hosts` and copy the output to http://pastebin.com/
#35 [00:48] <shelby> my /etc/hosts should be fine
#36 [00:48] <shelby> i dont need a specific entry or anything do i
#37 [00:48] <xales> make sure there is nothing there
#38 [00:48] <xales> ._.
#39 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you do as xales suggested anyways?
#40 [00:48] <shelby> yes mommy
#41 [00:48] <aetherian> hehehe
#42 [00:48] * aetherian back is
#42 [00:49] <shelby> http://pastebin.com/WxkPTkAA
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#44 [00:49] <aetherian> ::1 is win :D
#45 [00:49] <xales> ??> sleepybread linux/reinst
#46 [00:49] <VoxelHead> sleepybread: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#47 [00:49] <xales> err
#48 [00:49] <VoxelHead> sleepybread: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#49 [00:49] <xales> that was for you shelby :P
#50 [00:50] <shelby> im pretty sure i deleted it before actually
#51 [00:50] <aetherian> my, didn't know bread was having minecraft problems :o
#52 [00:50] <xales> well, try it again now?
#53 [00:50] <shelby> yeah i was just saying :3
#54 [00:51] <shelby> yeah it didnt do anything
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#56 [00:51] <donny> Are only minecraft questions answered here?
#57 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Generally, yes
#58 [00:51] <aetherian> donny: primarily.
#59 [00:51] <donny> Could you help me with an HTML question?
#60 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> We have no obligation to, but ask anyways.
#61 [00:52] <aetherian> how diplomatic.
#62 [00:52] <donny> What do div tags do precisely?
#63 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_div.asp
#64 [00:53] <aetherian> defines a section.
#65 [00:53] <donny> Thanks.
#66 [00:53] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: you just copypasta'd the first google result :|
#67 [00:53] <aetherian> put some effort into it :D
#68 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#69 [00:53] <aetherian> (like I did: google then summarize)
#70 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> I'm busy watching a tv episode
#71 [00:53] <shelby> ive redownloaded the client like ten times, lol
#72 [00:54] <aetherian> pfft
#73 [00:54] <aetherian> TV
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#75 [00:55] <xales> shelby: try clearing out the username/password fields and reentering it
#76 [00:56] <Wug> shelby, did you change your password and forget to update it?
#77 [00:56] <Wug> also greyvulpine, have you ever used wireshark
#78 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> No, sorry
#79 [00:57] <Wug> you should give it a shot, it might come in handy diagnosing server issues
#80 [00:57] <shelby> fixed it
#81 [00:57] <shelby> thanks xales
#82 [00:57] * shelby dips
#82 [00:58] <Wug> http://www.wireshark.org/
#83 [01:01] <Wug> it could prove especially useful in diagnosing lag and general derpiness clientside
#84 [01:04] <xales> Wug: It's nice if the person knows what they are doing
#85 [01:04] <xales> fail
#86 [01:23] <donny> Hey guys, just wanted to say thanks for the HTML help.
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#90 [01:26] <Dragonbut> Hai
#91 [01:26] <Dragonbut> Kealper
#92 [01:26] <Kealper> rawr
#93 [01:26] <oldtopmanserver> wubi working okay for you DragonBut?
#94 [01:26] <Kealper> hai
#95 [01:26] <Dragonbut> Yes but no D:
#96 [01:26] <oldtopmanserver> why u no work wubi?
#97 [01:26] <oldtopmanserver> Whats wrong?
#98 [01:26] <Dragonbut> How do I get Java and Flash on it?
#99 [01:27] <Kealper> that should already come on it?
#100 [01:27] <Kealper> i know Java does
#101 [01:27] <Dragonbut> It's fine just, java and flash D:<
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#103 [01:27] <Kealper> possibly flash
#104 [01:27] <Dragonbut> Java does???
#105 [01:27] <Kealper> yeah
#106 [01:27] <Kealper> as OpenJDK
#107 [01:27] <Dragonbut> Flash I may have installed :3
#108 [01:27] <Dragonbut> Lemme try something
#109 [01:28] <Kealper> just open a terminal window and type java -version
#110 [01:28] <Kealper> if it spits back a version, it's installed and setup
#111 [01:28] <Dragonbut> Apparently the Java version on it is old D:<
#112 [01:28] <oldtopmanserver> Dragonbut: You will need both java and openjdk
#113 [01:28] <Kealper> OpenDJK comes with a JVM
#114 [01:28] <Kealper> it should just work out-of-the-box
#115 [01:29] <Kealper> also... OpenJDK*
#116 [01:29] <Kealper> just noticed the fail D:
#117 [01:29] <Dragonbut> Minecraft works fine :3
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#119 [01:29] <Dragonbut> Or not D:<
#120 [01:30] <Kealper> RAAAAAAAAWR!!! SERVER! ACCEPT MY 90MBIT/S SPAM OF UDP OVER LAN!!! D:<
#121 [01:30] <aetherian> NEVAR
#122 [01:30] <aetherian> >:D
#123 [01:30] <Dragonbut> How do you get java updated?
#124 [01:30] <lemon-rev> java.com and update :P
#125 [01:30] <Kealper> i really need to update my router and switches....i'd like that number to be like 90MByte/s lol
#126 [01:31] <Dragonbut> On Ubuntu lemon-rev
#127 [01:31] <lemon-rev> oh
#128 [01:31] <Kealper> uhh..... if you installed Ubuntu 10.10 then the Java you have can't be older than like.... 6 months
#129 [01:31] <lemon-rev> http://www.ehow.com/how_5233065_update-java-ubuntu.html
#130 [01:32] <xales> Kealper: have you used Arch at all lately? :P
#131 [01:32] <Dragonbut> Lol, Minecraft needs newer D:
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#133 [01:32] <Dragonbut> Ty lemon-rev
#134 [01:32] <Kealper> xales: define lately?
#135 [01:33] <lemon-rev> kk np
#136 [01:33] <xales> Kealper: last week or two?
#137 [01:33] <Kealper> yea, for a bit
#138 [01:33] <Kealper> 11.9MByte/s....gg AutoIt
#139 [01:33] <Dragonbut> Wait, how do I get to System? :P
#140 [01:34] <Dragonbut> LOL Nvm
#141 [01:35] <Kealper> why is msn messenger listening to port 9 on 127.0.0.1 on udp.....
#142 [01:35] * Kealper spams it
#142 [01:35] <aetherian> /ping -f 127.0.0.1
#143 [01:35] <aetherian> ftw :D
#144 [01:36] <Kealper> my homemade spam is far more intense than anything ping -f could cook up :/
#145 [01:36] <aetherian> -f is easy to do though :|
#146 [01:36] <aetherian> and 'tis not like I'm spamming anyone
#147 [01:36] <Kealper> i'm technically just spamming myself lol
#148 [01:37] <aetherian> I'm not masochistically spamming either.
#149 [01:39] <aetherian> I may or may not be back within five hours.
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#151 [01:42] <Dragonbut> What's a good IRC program for Ubuntu
#152 [01:43] <Dragonbut> ?
#153 [01:44] <Iguana> XChat 2
#154 [01:44] <Iguana> irssi
#155 [01:48] <Dragonbut> How do you install XChat on Ubuntu
#156 [01:48] <Dragonbut> ?
#157 [01:49] <xales> From the package manager, just like everything else.
#158 [01:49] <Dragonbut> Lol, I'm 100% new to this.
#159 [01:49] <aetherian> it comes preinstalled on the regular ubuntu, if I do so recall.
#160 [01:49] <Dragonbut> How about on Ubuntu Desktop?
#161 [01:49] <aetherian> under the menu, under network (or internet, or whatever it's called)
#162 [01:50] <aetherian> and ubuntu desktop ~= regular ubuntu
#163 [01:51] <Dragonbut> Nope, not there
#164 [01:51] <aetherian> well, "(sudo) apt-get install xchat" may be the one, lemme check.
#165 [01:52] <aetherian> yep
#166 [01:52] <aetherian> (in a terminal)
#167 [01:52] <Dragonbut> Okay ty
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#169 [01:53] <Dragonbut> What now? XD
#170 [01:53] <aetherian> it finished downloading/dpkging?
#171 [01:54] <aetherian> if so, it will be under the menu thing. (whatever it's labeled in GNOME)
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#173 [01:54] <Dragonbut> Oh nvm, it's in Applications > Internet > XChat
#174 [01:54] <aetherian> that's where it should be, as I stated before.
#175 [01:56] <Dragonbut> Brb
#176 [01:56] <Kealper> aetherian: ya know how i said my spammer was better than ping -f?
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#179 [01:57] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/qRY0m.png lol
#180 [01:57] <aetherian> Kealper: I seem to recall that.
#181 [01:57] <Dragonbut> Hai
#182 [01:57] <Kealper> i showed msn messenger who was boss D:
#183 [01:57] <Dragonbut> Ty
#184 [01:58] <aetherian> only 104.2M and 46.9M?
#185 [01:58] <aetherian> pshaw
#186 [01:58] <Kealper> that's per sec lol
#187 [01:58] <Kealper> ended up pushing over 3.7GB of just the letter "0" to it in 43 sec
#188 [01:58] <Dragonbut> This Ubuntu is lurvly :3
#189 [01:59] <aetherian> heh
#190 [01:59] <Dragonbut> Kealper, how do I check Hard Drive Space in Ubuntu?
#191 [01:59] <Kealper> it held up amazingly well....i wonder what it uses that thing for
#192 [01:59] <Kealper> Dragonbut: that's a question more suited for aetherian lol
#193 [01:59] <Dragonbut> Okay :3
#194 [02:00] <Dragonbut> Aetherian? XD
#195 [02:00] <Kealper> i use windows on a day-to-day basis lol
#196 [02:00] <Dragonbut> Okay
#197 [02:00] <aetherian> uhhh
#198 [02:00] <aetherian> I never need to really check, but gparted may tell you? let me look...
#199 [02:00] <aetherian> there was a better thing.
#200 [02:01] <Dragonbut> Huh?
#201 [02:01] <aetherian> under applications, under accessories, is there something called "Disk Usage Analyzer"?
#202 [02:01] <Dragonbut> Yep :3
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#205 [02:02] <aetherian> that's good for a gui
#206 [02:02] <aetherian> I think the command "df" tells you as well.
#207 [02:02] <Dragonbut> Okay ty :3
#208 [02:02] <aetherian> when in doubt, google!
#209 [02:02] <Dragonbut> Wow, still goin' strong with 11 gigs XD
#210 [02:02] <aetherian> (which is in no way shape or form how I got the answer for your question. I totally knew it all. yep.)
#211 [02:03] <Dragonbut> Wtf??? On my laptop, the button to turn WLAN on and off keeps flashing
#212 [02:03] <aetherian> uh
#213 [02:04] <Dragonbut> What the f***....
#214 [02:04] <aetherian> I don't claim to know why, but at least it seems that your internet is working.
#215 [02:04] <Dragonbut> My tv just turned off loudly...
#216 [02:04] <Dragonbut> Without me touching anything...
#217 [02:04] <aetherian> hax I say!
#218 [02:05] <aetherian> how does something turn off loudly?
#219 [02:05] <Dragonbut> I think my houses electricity is going to hell
#220 [02:05] <Dragonbut> Idk it made a big beep noise and turned off then back on
#221 [02:06] <aetherian> whee
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#223 [02:07] <Dragonbut> I know this is possibly getting annoying, and it's not the right place to ask but..... What is everything in here like say..... MS Paint for Ubuntu? XD
#224 [02:08] <aetherian> MS paint fails
#225 [02:08] <Dragonbut> I know
#226 [02:08] <xales> Dragonbut: GIMP
#227 [02:08] * GreyVulpine coughs
#227 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/gimp.html
#228 [02:08] * GreyVulpine points
#228 [02:08] <aetherian> but if you have enough space/memory, I would use GIMP
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#230 [02:08] <xales> Look in the software manager thing
#231 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> "The GIMP is installed in Ubuntu by default, and can be started by choosing Applications → Graphics → GIMP Image Editor . "
#232 [02:08] <xales> it's at the top in the 'art' section or whatever
#233 [02:08] <xales> ._.
#234 [02:08] <aetherian> (sudo) apt-get install GIMP #if it's not already installed
#235 [02:08] <Dragonbut> But like, what is basicly MS paint for Ubuntu?
#236 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Gimp
#237 [02:08] <aetherian> he has a point
#238 [02:09] <Dragonbut> XD
#239 [02:09] <aetherian> gimp is a bit complex for simple things
#240 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Unless you want to go with something else, there's tons of open source/free image editors
#241 [02:10] <Dragonbut> D:
#242 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Just, Gimp is installed already with ubuntu
#243 [02:10] <Dragonbut> Unable to locate package GIMP
#244 [02:10] <aetherian> (it's actually gimp, sorry.)
#245 [02:10] <aetherian> but it's preinstalled
#246 [02:10] <xales> Once again, it's already installed
#247 [02:10] <aetherian> check under art/draw/whatever
#248 [02:11] <Dragonbut> Not there
#249 [02:11] <aetherian> go to the ubuntu software center
#250 [02:11] <Dragonbut> Some openoffice.org drawing stuff
#251 [02:11] <aetherian> browse
#252 [02:11] <aetherian> ???
#253 [02:11] <aetherian> profit
#254 [02:12] <aetherian> anyone here play xmoto?
#255 [02:12] <aetherian> uh oh
#256 [02:13] <aetherian> it's a bomb
#257 [02:13] <Dragonbut> What is something like notepad for Ubuntu? :3
#258 [02:14] <relsqui> gedit
#259 [02:14] <aetherian> nano for the win :D
#260 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> vm > *
#261 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> er, vi
#262 [02:14] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: I don't think he wants to learn VI
#263 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> shush!
#264 [02:14] <aetherian> s/VI/vi
#265 [02:14] <aetherian> nano is easy to use :)
#266 [02:15] <aetherian> and besides, most people use vim, not vi.
#267 [02:15] <aetherian> (or so it seems to me)
#268 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> pfft, only hardcore people linux users use vi
#269 [02:15] <xales> VIM = VI iMproved
#270 [02:15] <xales> <.<
#271 [02:15] <aetherian> xales: I know that .-.-.-.-.-.
#272 [02:15] <Dragonbut> How do I get nano?
#273 [02:15] <aetherian> and no, I think it's Vi IMproved.
#274 [02:16] <aetherian> it may be installed?
#275 [02:16] <aetherian> but you probably don't want to use it yourself
#276 [02:16] <aetherian> you should have gedit/leafpad/someotherthing
#277 [02:17] <aetherian> if gedit means gnome edit, you likely have that.
#278 [02:18] <Dragonbut> Oh god... What other drawing programs were there? XD Gimp looks extremely advanced
#279 [02:19] <aetherian> go to ubuntu software center and look, I'll look a bit too.
#280 [02:19] <Dragonbut> I see some weird looking ones
#281 [02:19] <aetherian> you may like GNU paint
#282 [02:19] <Dragonbut> GNU Paint looks pretty good
#283 [02:20] <aetherian> Gnome Paint Drawing Editor
#284 [02:20] <Dragonbut> KolourPaint is MS Paint XD
#285 [02:20] <aetherian> that's what you're looking for.
#286 [02:20] <aetherian> that's what you're looking for.
#287 [02:20] <aetherian> ack
#288 [02:20] <aetherian> upfail ..>
#289 [02:21] <Dragonbut> Lol, that pretty much is MS Paint too
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#291 [02:21] <aetherian> but yeah, check out Gnome Paint Drawing Editor, it's based off of MS paint.
#292 [02:21] <Dragonbut> Okay ty
#293 [02:21] <aetherian> gotta have something to make images for whatevernumberchan :D
#294 [02:22] <Dragonbut> I better be off to bed....
#295 [02:22] <aetherian> (that was sarcasm, in case you couldn't tell)
#296 [02:22] <Dragonbut> I could XD
#297 [02:22] <Dragonbut> Night
#298 [02:23] <aetherian> night?
#299 [02:23] <aetherian> bed?
#300 [02:23] <aetherian> what alien concepts.
#301 [02:23] <Dragonbut> It's 1:23 AM
#302 [02:23] <aetherian> I'll often stay up to 0300 :D
#303 [02:23] <aetherian> not today though, I'm under the weather.
#304 [02:23] <aetherian> or maybe the weather is over me.
#305 [02:23] <Dragonbut> Me too :3
#306 [02:23] <Dragonbut> Lol
#307 [02:24] <Dragonbut> Okay good night! :3
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#313 [02:33] <Biggz> hmm
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#316 [02:38] <aetherian> night guys
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#326 [02:59] <Dragonbut> Aetherian XD
#327 [03:00] <Dragonbut> Where is the.... Say control panel for Ubuntu?
#328 [03:01] <Dragonbut> Aetherian?
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#330 [03:02] <xales> Dragonbut: At the top of the screen...
#331 [03:02] <xales> click 'System'
#332 [03:02] <xales> derp
#333 [03:02] <Dragonbut> Lol, ty
#334 [03:07] <aetherian> wha
#335 [03:08] <Dandoogood> Hello. Minecraft continuously keeps crashing for me. I do not know why but it seems that no matter what i do to fix the problem does not solve it. It first freezes and then goes to a black screen.
#336 [03:09] <xales> Dandoogood: Are you running any mods? What OS?
#337 [03:09] <Dandoogood> It is Vanilla. And i am running it on Windows 7.
#338 [03:09] <xales> Have you tried deleting the bin folder?
#339 [03:10] <aetherian> night again, have fun with the tech support.
#340 [03:10] <Dandoogood> i have deleted the whole thing and reinstalled it
#341 [03:10] <xales> How exactly did you delete it?
#342 [03:10] <Dandoogood> I removed the folder.
#343 [03:11] <xales> Which folder?
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#345 [03:12] <Dandoogood> The one in my AppData is there another way i should go about removing it?
#346 [03:12] <xales> No. Has it always done this, or did it start recently?
#347 [03:13] <Dandoogood> Just started recently. I believe it was on 1.3 that it was crashing periodically. But then with 1.4 it crashes more often.
#348 [03:14] <xales> Try turning off the 'Smooth lighting' option in Options -> Graphics
#349 [03:15] <Dandoogood> The Smooth lighting was off when it crashed.
#350 [03:15] <Dandoogood> And by often i mean that it crashes Around every 5 minutes
#351 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> I get that as well, there's no solution that I've seen.
#352 [03:15] <xales> Try turning the view distance to 'Tiny' and graphics to 'Fast'
#353 [03:15] <xales> you can also try reinstalling Java (fixes it for some people)
#354 [03:15] <xales> for others, as GreyVulpine has said, there's no fix
#355 [03:16] <Dandoogood> I will remove both minecraft and Java and try that
#356 [03:16] <Dandoogood> I have already uninstalled and reinstalled java not but a couple days ago. But i will do both at the same time.
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#359 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#360 [03:30] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.562 seconds.
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#364 [03:47] <tjbenator> Whats up?
#365 [03:48] <tjbenator> no
#366 [03:48] <tjbenator> ok
#367 [03:48] <tjbenator> bye
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#375 [04:22] * GreyVulpine blinks
#375 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> Okay then
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#378 [04:29] <mang0> !haspaid mega_mang0
#379 [04:29] <mang0> !paid mega_mang0
#380 [04:30] <xales> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/Qv4wKYuv
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#383 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks xales
#384 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if these deserve a perma ban though
#385 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> Or a rather, a ban of indeterminate duration, or whenever an op decides/remembers to unban thouhg..
#386 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> though*
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#389 [04:38] <krazyito> Hello
#390 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#391 [04:39] <krazyito> Can someone help me set up my own server for me to use on my personal computer?no one else jsut the computer I am on.
#392 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> krazyito - Classic or beta?
#393 [04:39] <krazyito> beta
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#396 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Okay, what kind of help in setting up do you need?
#397 [04:40] <krazyito> wait i think i just realised something
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#399 [04:40] <krazyito> Do i have to pay for the game before i do this?
#400 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#401 [04:40] <krazyito> ah
#402 [04:41] <krazyito> ok... I'll figure my financial status some other time.. thanks.
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#412 [05:18] <semmel> hi there
#413 [05:20] <semmel> I have a problem with my minecraft account. It says I'm not a premium user even though I already paid, I still have the paypal receipt. I already emailed payment@mojang.com twice, with my paypal payment confirmation, once with CC to daniel@mojang, but still no answer
#414 [05:21] <lemon-rev> it can take up to 24 hours just wait, and check in your account every soo offten
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#417 [05:26] <Kimax> is there a way to produce clay???
#418 [05:27] <lemon-rev> i dont beilve so , only if you manage to find it
#419 [05:27] <NotiCon> Kimax: nop only possible to find it
#420 [05:28] <NotiCon> or well there is the /give command in smp and there is tools that let you give you stuff in sp
#421 [05:28] <Kimax> okay... i think im just gonna take a walk... im not admin on the server i play on...
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#426 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Notch - "Ice and snow will regrow, farms will autowater"
#427 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Yay!
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#429 [05:51] <Aska990> hello
#430 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#431 [05:55] <lemon-rev> hello aska990
#432 [05:55] <lemon-rev> your not running into more trouble lol
#433 [05:55] <lemon-rev> ?
#434 [05:55] <Aska990> not now ^^
#435 [05:55] <lemon-rev> good to hear
#436 [05:57] <Aska990> testing the "IndustrialCraft" mod
#437 [05:57] <Aska990> not bad at all
#438 [05:57] <Aska990> interesting things
#439 [05:57] <lemon-rev> theres a couple of mods i seen that wount be too bad to have for options on mc lol
#440 [05:58] <Aska990> indeed
#441 [05:59] <Aska990> I would like to test the "airplanes" mod, but it has not been released for the 1.4_01 yet
#442 [06:05] <Aska990> three wolfies in my house ? Oo
#443 [06:06] <Aska990> (i precise, my house is 64 blocks deep underground)
#444 [06:08] <lemon-rev> oh
#445 [06:08] <lemon-rev> you either train them to kill em :P
#446 [06:11] <NotiCon> or eat them
#447 [06:14] <Aska990> now a pig and a sheep U_U
#448 [06:16] <NotiCon> how does one close down that minecraft java made window in linux?
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#451 [06:27] <NotiCon> without killing java with kill -9 pid
#452 [06:28] <Aska990> it closes itself for me
#453 [06:28] <NotiCon> doesnt for me
#454 [06:28] <NotiCon> it just sit there black
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#462 [07:25] <Mvib> Ello people.
#463 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#464 [07:27] <Mvib> Do you have any experience with Permissions or GroupManager plugin?
#465 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope. You may want to try #bukkit.
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#469 [07:34] <SlashLife> Do wolfes spawn at day or at night?
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#471 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Don't think time matters
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#476 [07:57] <zama> hi
#477 [07:57] <zama> any one here?
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#481 [08:03] <xorcon> hi
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#485 [08:15] <hulken> I need some help, i cant get into minecraft. WHen i log in it says "Updating minecraft" and "Done" but it wont change to the game. its stuck... anyone know what to do?
#486 [08:15] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you running?
#487 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> hulken?
#488 [08:16] <hulken> w7
#489 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> ??> hulken win/reinst
#490 [08:16] <VoxelHead> hulken: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#491 [08:16] <VoxelHead> hulken: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#493 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> Just follow those instructions, and you should be good to go
#494 [08:17] <hulken> ok thanks
#495 [08:22] <ronjn> i'm still having the problem with no monsters spawning at night when i'm alone on the smp server
#496 [08:22] <ronjn> no mods whatsoever
#497 [08:23] <ronjn> and they do spawn when another player is on
#498 [08:23] <ronjn> any ideas?
#499 [08:24] <Dark_Fox_> ronjn: Supposedly they won't spawn within 20 or so meters of you. Have you tried wandering around outside at night?
#500 [08:24] <ronjn> sure
#501 [08:25] <ronjn> they're spawning pretty much instantly when another player joins the server
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#503 [08:26] <vEDSTESEN> only me who got a problem with minecraft?
#504 [08:28] <vEDSTESEN> ?=
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#508 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/UVNCC.jpg
#509 [08:41] <Aska990> me -> bed
#510 [08:41] <Aska990> goodbye !
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#513 [08:47] <frogzilla> hi
#514 [08:47] <frogzilla> hi
#515 [08:48] <frogzilla> is world of minecraft autorized on servers or can u get banned?
#516 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> No, it's not an official piece of software, but it will not get you banned from Mojang
#517 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> Server owners still have the option of banning you though
#518 [08:51] <frogzilla> ok thanks
#519 [08:51] <frogzilla> what about customs skins
#520 [08:51] <frogzilla> can they get you banned from mojang or servers?
#521 [08:52] <GreyVulpine> custom skins? They're built in, if you paid for minecraft
#522 [08:53] <frogzilla> im at the moment on minecraft classic (the free version), still discovering it, and there a lot of people with custom skins
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#524 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes, those people have paid for minecraft, and get the added benefit of being able to upload and use custom skins
#525 [08:54] <frogzilla> oh
#526 [08:54] <frogzilla> so with the free version u can use custom skins ?
#527 [08:54] <GreyVulpine> With the free version, you can see other people with custom skins, sure. You just can't upload your own custom one
#528 [08:55] <frogzilla> even if i take it from a skins website ?
#529 [08:55] <frogzilla> a ready to use skin
#530 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes, even then
#531 [08:55] <frogzilla> ok
#532 [08:55] <frogzilla> one last question if u don't mind
#533 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> Fire away
#534 [08:56] <frogzilla> what the best custom server software i could use to create a small server for my friends and I (3-5 people max)
#535 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> For classic? The only one I have experience in, is mclawl.
#536 [08:57] <frogzilla> i tried mclawl but it couldn't get a heartbeat, even though i still could connect to it using the minecraft's site server list, however friends could also see it but couldn't connect to it even though i could
#537 [08:57] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#537 [08:57] <frogzilla> wel mc lawl seemed very nice
#538 [08:57] <frogzilla> but my friend couldn't get on it
#539 [08:58] <frogzilla> even though i opened ports on my router, autorized it on zonealarm too
#540 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, zonealarm.
#541 [08:58] <frogzilla> maybe it's avast i dunno
#542 [08:58] <frogzilla> i'm kinda lost
#543 [08:58] <frogzilla> mpm
#544 [08:58] <frogzilla> lol
#545 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> We have seen so many problems with Zonealarm in this channel.
#546 [08:59] <frogzilla> well it's a free firewall ^^
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#548 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Even after disabling it, it's protection engine isn't unloaded. It takes an uninstall for it to fully go inert
#549 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> It's a crappy piece of software
#550 [09:00] <frogzilla> i would like to make mclawl work with zonealarm on
#551 [09:00] <frogzilla> ther's got to be a way
#552 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, good luck with that.
#553 [09:00] <frogzilla> unless you suggest a better free firewall ? ^^
#554 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Are you behind a router?
#555 [09:00] <frogzilla> my adsl modem is a router yes
#556 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Then a firewall gives you no added benefit.
#557 [09:01] <frogzilla> i know it's just that it lets me autorize or deny access to internet to programs and let's me trace what's happening
#558 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> Uh-huh.
#559 [09:01] <frogzilla> ?
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#563 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure it gives you the illusion of security, with all its prompts.. but a software firewall gives you no added benefit that a NAT on your router isn't already doing... All that firewall is doing, is costing you clicks and time each time you want to confirm or deny something
#564 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> And with Zonealarm, it's been this channel's experience that hosting a minecraft server, can only be done with uninstalling it.
#565 [09:03] <frogzilla> yeah but a lot of times I found out a program was trying to go online thanks to it, if I hadn't had it the prog would've gone online and sometimes I don't want that
#566 [09:04] <frogzilla> maybe ther eis a program that might let me just control the traffic on the computer but not by being a firewall, i dunno if u see what i mean
#567 [09:05] <frogzilla> that would be great
#568 [09:05] <frogzilla> leave the firewall business to the router but let me control traffic
#569 [09:05] * GreyVulpine shrugs.
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#570 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> Zonealarm has such a history here, that we have a faq for the bot that does..
#571 [09:05] * frogzilla laughs
#571 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> ?? fubar/zonealarm
#572 [09:05] <VoxelHead> fubar/zonealarm: Don't use ZoneAlarm. It's bloated, resource-heavy software that does more harm than good, and in fact is known to cause problems with Minecraft specifically, such as connecting to servers and falling endlessly through the void, or even crashing servers entirely.
#573 [09:05] <VoxelHead> fubar/zonealarm: Official report thread about ZA-induce server crashes is here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_crashes_in_multiplayer_socketexception_if_firewa
#574 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> So, yeah.
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#576 [09:06] <frogzilla> i get a page not found with that link
#577 [09:07] <frogzilla> do u suggest another firewall then?
#578 [09:07] <frogzilla> do u know one ?
#579 [09:07] <GreyVulpine> If you must, anything but it.
#580 [09:07] <frogzilla> i see
#581 [09:07] <GreyVulpine> Heck, have a free computer, run linux and install smoothwall.
#582 [09:08] <frogzilla> whats smoothwall?
#583 [09:08] <frogzilla> a firewall?
#584 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Basically, yes. It's a linux distro that does nothing but firewall rules
#585 [09:08] <frogzilla> well i haven't got a free comp
#586 [09:08] <frogzilla> i have ubuntu installed on a partition but that's it
#587 [09:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that won't work.
#588 [09:09] <frogzilla> but i need to use windows for my daily stuff
#589 [09:09] <frogzilla> yeah
#590 [09:09] <GreyVulpine> But I can't make a recommendation for any free firewalls, because you get what you pay for.
#591 [09:09] <GreyVulpine> Same goes for any sort of security software/AV
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#594 [09:13] <frogzilla> i know
#595 [09:13] <frogzilla> i just need something to control traffic
#596 [09:13] <frogzilla> not necessarilly a firewall
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#599 [09:15] <bokaholic> Ohhh yawn.
#600 [09:15] <frogzilla> anyway thanks a lot for your help
#601 [09:18] <Dark_Fox_> frogzilla: If you need traffic control you may need to pick up a router or something
#602 [09:18] <Dark_Fox_> I know that several of the older linksys routers have hacked firmware you can put on them for better network control
#603 [09:19] <frogzilla> well i'm more looking for a software solution
#604 [09:19] <frogzilla> a simple program that would alert me when a program tries to go online, and that asks me if yes or no I accept, that's it
#605 [09:19] <frogzilla> all the rest I don't care since my adsl modem is a router
#606 [09:21] <frogzilla> i don't know if that even exists appart from software firewalls
#607 [09:28] <frogzilla> any idea dark fox
#608 [09:28] <frogzilla> ?
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#621 [09:48] <mib_u0uz05> hello i got a problem after the new update 1.4_01 i cant join servers at all what do i do and yes the servers are uptodate
#622 [09:49] <mib_u0uz05> hello *?
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#626 [09:52] <Dave> hey all
#627 [09:52] <Guest40294> whats the most efficient way to extract large amounts of lava from the ground?
#628 [09:53] <Guest40294> anyone there?
#629 [09:53] <Tanjoodo> Buckets are all what I can think of.
#630 [09:53] <Tanjoodo> ...
#631 [09:54] <Kade> Buckets.
#632 [09:54] <Kade> Many buckets.
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#643 [10:13] <HappyMiner> Hello any of admins need help with my payment
#644 [10:15] <HappyMiner> I already bought game a 2 months ago, but now it say im not premium !!!
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#671 [11:39] <Coarse> hello?
#672 [11:40] <Morrolan> Hey Coarse
#673 [11:40] <Coarse> i need help with my ninja mode mod
#674 [11:40] <Coarse> it doesn't seem to work with my other mods
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#676 [11:41] <Coarse> i've posted on the forums already
#677 [11:41] <Morrolan> For help with mods you might want to hop over to #risucraft
#678 [11:41] <Coarse> oh, thanks for telling
#679 [11:41] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#680 [11:41] <Coarse> hope i get a reply from them
#681 [11:41] <Coarse> :)
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#686 [11:52] <aetherian> nom
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#689 [11:55] <fredro> Hello, how can I launch minecraft.exe in verbose mode? I need to check why I get random disconnects
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#691 [11:56] <xolotl> fredro: I don't think there is such a thing; what you see on the console is what you get
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#693 [11:56] <fredro> ok, how am I supposed to debug? isn't there any sort of crash log?
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#695 [11:58] <aetherian> heh
#696 [11:58] <xolotl> fredro: Beyond what's printed on the console, I don't think so
#697 [11:59] <xolotl> fredro: If you've launched it from cmd.exe you might get more info than with not
#698 [11:59] <xolotl> fredro: If you don't get an actual traceback from the EXE, you could try running the .jar instead, which would certainly give you a traceback if launched by the jar
#699 [11:59] <fredro> when launching from cmd it will just open the program and not stay inside
#700 [11:59] <aetherian> the only report that I am aware of is whatever is in cmd/terminal/whathaveyou, and when it actually crashes, it should show an error report.
#701 [12:00] <fredro> ok, I tried to launch the .jar by the command java -jar minecraft.jar without success
#702 [12:00] <aetherian> but, ah, what exactly is the problem with it?
#703 [12:00] <fredro> I'm just getting random disconnects from a server I'm connected to
#704 [12:00] <fredro> so I want to see if there is some kind of exception
#705 [12:00] <aetherian> is it all servers or just that one?
#706 [12:00] <aetherian> as in
#707 [12:01] <aetherian> are there any servers you can connect to fine
#708 [12:01] <fredro> I've just tried one mainly
#709 [12:01] <aetherian> ah
#710 [12:01] <aetherian> how long can you normally stay connected for?
#711 [12:01] <fredro> so probably it's something with that server
#712 [12:02] <fredro> about 5-10 min
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#714 [12:02] <hJulvort> is there some kind of know bug with setting up servers on w7, players trying to connect gets stuck on logging in?
#715 [12:02] <fredro> then I just get blank screen and freezes
#716 [12:02] <aetherian> hJulvort: that's a somewhat common bug as of late
#717 [12:02] <aetherian> and fred, can you play single player without blankscreening?
#718 [12:02] <fredro> sure
#719 [12:03] <fredro> no problem on single player
#720 [12:03] <aetherian> okay
#721 [12:03] <fredro> server admin said it only displayed "connection reset"
#722 [12:03] <fredro> in his logs
#723 [12:03] <hJulvort> it's so wierd, when I try it on xp it works fine
#724 [12:04] <aetherian> heh. windoze.
#725 [12:04] <fredro> aetherian, know the parameters to start the .jar file?
#726 [12:04] <aetherian> I think it
#727 [12:04] <aetherian> augh
#728 [12:05] <fredro> or I can probably use javac and launch the main class directly, but I don't know the name of it
#729 [12:05] <aetherian> I think it's the same for windows as it is for Linux, and if so, "java -jar filename.jar"
#730 [12:05] <aetherian> before -jar, you can place memory arguments
#731 [12:05] <fredro> yea, that's the normal way, doesn't work though ;)
#732 [12:05] <aetherian> works for me.
#733 [12:06] <aetherian> what does it say when you try to do that?
#734 [12:06] <fredro> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from minecraft.jar
#735 [12:06] <aetherian> huh
#736 [12:06] <aetherian> well, I have two ideas for troubleshooting.
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#738 [12:06] <fredro> C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin>java -jar minecraft.jar
#739 [12:07] <aetherian> oh, fredro, that's wrong.
#740 [12:07] <Dragonbut> Hai :3
#741 [12:07] <aetherian> you need to launch the launcher.
#742 [12:07] <Dragonbut> Hey aetherian
#743 [12:07] <fredro> but the launcher is .exe
#744 [12:07] <aetherian> ...
#745 [12:07] <Dragonbut> I think I got everything right now :3
#746 [12:08] <aetherian> one: I think you may be able to somehow launch with java -something minecraft.exe
#747 [12:08] <aetherian> two: download the jar file then.
#748 [12:08] <Dragonbut> Double click the Minecraft launcher
#749 [12:08] <aetherian> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#750 [12:08] <aetherian> under Linux / Other
#751 [12:08] <Morrolan> Fredro: Either get yourself the .jar launcher, or start the .exe launcher with the same arguments as you would launch the .jar launcher.
#752 [12:08] <Dragonbut> Oh Linux
#753 [12:09] <aetherian> Dragonbut: ...
#754 [12:09] <Dragonbut> What?
#755 [12:09] <Dragonbut> If he's using Linux then I have no idea the installation
#756 [12:09] <Dragonbut> XD
#757 [12:09] <aetherian> I just find it funny that you came on with no idea as to what he's needing help with
#758 [12:10] <aetherian> and start saying things about it
#759 [12:10] <fredro> ok, I tried the .jar file, also the same, it starts the game and inside the cmd it will go back to shell
#760 [12:10] <aetherian> he doesn't have Linux, for your information
#761 [12:10] <Dragonbut> Well with appdata/roaming/ thats windows
#762 [12:10] <aetherian> I know that.
#763 [12:10] <Dragonbut> But then you said go to Linux/Other D:
#764 [12:10] <Morrolan> Yea, on the download page.
#765 [12:10] * aetherian starts to ignore dragon to get some work done
#765 [12:10] <Morrolan> The .jar launcher is listed under Linux/Other ;)
#766 [12:11] <Dragonbut> Okay :3
#767 [12:11] <aetherian> fred, cmd.exe may not show it, I guess
#768 [12:11] <Dragonbut> Sorry Aetherian
#769 [12:11] <fredro> aetherian, yes I noticed
#770 [12:12] <aetherian> well then
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#772 [12:12] <aetherian> so anyway
#773 [12:12] <aetherian> I presume everyone else can connect/stay connected quite fine to the server?
#774 [12:12] <fredro> sure
#775 [12:13] <aetherian> I'd say try connecting to another server and seeing if it works.
#776 [12:14] <fredro> yea, but it will probably work with other servers
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#779 [12:25] <blinky> hi
#780 [12:25] <blinky> HELLO?
#781 [12:26] <gPad2002> ?? Ask
#782 [12:26] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#783 [12:26] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#784 [12:27] <blinky> my comp had a blue screen a few days ago and i lost my files in game but they are still in the directory, how can i move them back into my game?
#785 [12:28] <Morrolan> Most likely they got corrupted. You can try the following though:
#786 [12:28] <Morrolan> Download MCEdit and open these worlds. Then try to save them again and check if this fixed it.
#787 [12:29] <Morrolan> You can get MCEdit here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#788 [12:29] <blinky> ok thanks :D
#789 [12:29] <Morrolan> Let's hope for the best. :)
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#791 [12:30] <olaplutonium> Hellp
#792 [12:30] <Morrolan> Hey
#793 [12:30] <olaplutonium> Hello*
#794 [12:31] <olaplutonium> can anyone check out my problem?
#795 [12:31] <Morrolan> Sure, just ask.
#796 [12:31] <olaplutonium> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=266293
#797 [12:31] <olaplutonium> explained well in that thread
#798 [12:32] <Morrolan> :/
#799 [12:33] <blinky> ok i downloaded the MCedit zip file to i just go to the directory and try opening my game?
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#801 [12:35] <Morrolan> Blinky: Extract the .zip file to somewhere and launch MCedit. Then select "open a level" and navigate to where that lost save is. Open it (the level.dat file) and save it again (ctrl-s). Then exit MCedit and look if the world is visible in Minecraft again.
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#803 [12:35] <Morrolan> Olaplutonium: I can only advise you to ask again in an hour or so, I haven't seen this error before, there might be others who can help you though.
#804 [12:38] <blinky> hey morrolan
#805 [12:38] <blinky> i did that and the world is back but im spawing underground now..
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#807 [12:40] <Dragonbut> Aetherian, are you willing to help me a bit more with Ubuntu? :3
#808 [12:41] <Morrolan> Blinky: You can move the player position and spawnpoint with MCEdit as well. It's the little box with the head in the toolbar.
#809 [12:41] <aetherian> Dragonbut: what is it you want now.
#810 [12:42] <Dragonbut> D: You seem angry. But what can Ubuntu do that Windows can't?
#811 [12:42] <aetherian> stay awake
#812 [12:42] <aetherian> (hehehe)
#813 [12:42] <fredro> proper command line
#814 [12:42] <Dragonbut> :P
#815 [12:43] <aetherian> two words: terminal games
#816 [12:43] <aetherian> :D
#817 [12:43] <Dragonbut> How?
#818 [12:43] <Dragonbut> XD
#819 [12:43] <aetherian> by installing games that run in the terminal, obviously.
#820 [12:43] <fredro> nethack <3
#821 [12:43] <aetherian> <3
#822 [12:43] <aetherian> terminal tetris <3
#823 [12:44] <Dragonbut> What is there for terminal games?
#824 [12:44] <gPad2002> Lol
#825 [12:44] <gPad2002> Just use curses
#826 [12:44] <gPad2002> Herp derpserv
#827 [12:44] <Dragonbut> That's all? I thought Linux was known for programming.
#828 [12:44] <gPad2002> Derp*
#829 [12:44] <aetherian> Dragonbut: that too, of course
#830 [12:44] <aetherian> @-@
#831 [12:44] <Dragonbut> Where would I do that in? :3
#832 [12:45] <aetherian> I use nano for writing small programs
#833 [12:45] <Dragonbut> Okay
#834 [12:45] <aetherian> but you may want a, ah, IDE
#835 [12:45] <Dragonbut> How do I get Nano?
#836 [12:45] <aetherian> if it's not installed on ubuntu, then (sudo) apt-get install nano
#837 [12:45] <NotiCon> sudo apt-get install nano ?
#838 [12:45] <gPad2002> Sudo apt-get install nano
#839 [12:45] <gPad2002> Ninja'd
#840 [12:46] <aetherian> all together now!
#841 [12:46] <blinky> lol well i have my world back but i cant find my house to place the spawn XD
#842 [12:46] <Dragonbut> Last time I checked it wasn't in the Software Center
#843 [12:46] <Dragonbut> Okay
#844 [12:46] <aetherian> but if it is installed
#845 [12:46] <aetherian> just launch it from the command line as "nano filename"
#846 [12:47] <NotiCon> if its ubuntu there is gedit
#847 [12:47] <aetherian> lmao
#848 [12:47] <aetherian> you're so funny
#849 [12:47] <gPad2002> Rofl
#850 [12:47] <NotiCon> someone have to be?
#851 [12:47] <gPad2002> Gedit, gtfo xD
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#853 [12:48] <NotiCon> i use gedit to code D:
#854 [12:48] <gPad2002> Don't. :P
#855 [12:48] <NotiCon> but i do
#856 [12:48] <aetherian> I prefer going into a virtual terminal and using nano for coding
#857 [12:48] <gPad2002> Time for new habit
#858 [12:48] <gPad2002> ^
#859 [12:48] <gPad2002> Nano is fricking awso pme
#860 [12:48] <aetherian> ctrl-alt-f2 for the win
#861 [12:48] <gPad2002> Awesome*
#862 [12:48] <Morrolan> Blinky: Oh well, better than no world I guess. ^^ Wish you luck with finding your house. :)
#863 [12:49] <aetherian> (or f1-f6)
#864 [12:49] <gPad2002> I have to use SSH
#865 [12:49] <Dragonbut> What can you program in Nano?
#866 [12:49] <gPad2002> nano is a text editor
#867 [12:49] <Dragonbut> (What code)
#868 [12:49] <Dragonbut> So any :3
#869 [12:49] <gPad2002> You write code
#870 [12:49] <gPad2002> So
#871 [12:50] <aetherian> and it has some syntax highlighting too :D
#872 [12:50] <aetherian> what language do you actually know, dragon
#873 [12:50] <Dragonbut> Lol, I'm new to programming, well actually haven't started yet XD
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#875 [12:51] <aetherian> then... what are you going to be learning...?
#876 [12:51] <Morrolan> I'd advise you not to start with Linux then. ;)
#877 [12:51] <NotiCon> ^-
#878 [12:51] <fredro> pro's use vi ;)
#879 [12:51] <Dragonbut> Idk, probably either Java or C#
#880 [12:51] <gPad2002> fredro: Vi? Umad?
#881 [12:52] <aetherian> Morrolan: .-.
#882 [12:52] <fredro> gPad2002, :)
#883 [12:52] <Dragonbut> Would Nano work with those 2?
#884 [12:52] <gPad2002> Dragonbut: Start with Python
#885 [12:52] <aetherian> python ftw :D
#886 [12:52] <Morrolan> ^
#887 [12:52] <Dragonbut> Okay.
#888 [12:52] <gPad2002> I <3 python
#889 [12:52] * gPad2002 hugs McPlusPlus
#889 [12:52] <gPad2002> (I wrote that bot in Python)
#890 [12:52] <Dragonbut> You can program Python in nano?
#891 [12:52] <Morrolan> And only use a texteditor if you want to do it the hard way, use an IDE else. ;)
#892 [12:52] <aetherian> "nano .py" for python syntax, and then you can choose the name once you writeout
#893 [12:53] <Dragonbut> What bot?
#894 [12:53] <gPad2002> McPlusPlus is a bot
#895 [12:53] <gPad2002> ~dict bot 1
#896 [12:53] <McPlusPlus> No definitions for "bot".
#897 [12:53] <aetherian> Morrolan: texteditor is the easy way
#898 [12:53] <gPad2002> Blah
#899 [12:54] <Dragonbut> Lol, I may just use Texteditor for my programming.
#900 [12:54] <Dragonbut> Is there a Notepad++ for Ubuntu?
#901 [12:54] <aetherian> simple as: "nano filename.py" *write code* "ctrl-O" "ctrl-X" "python filename.py" *profit*
#902 [12:54] <aetherian> lol
#903 [12:54] <NotiCon> aetherian: well then one do also need to get a compiler and do those stuff the proper way where with an IDE one doesnt need to use those manuel
#904 [12:54] <Dragonbut> Lol
#905 [12:55] <aetherian> NotiCon: he's writing python. you run it as python filename.py
#906 [12:55] <aetherian> essentially
#907 [12:56] <NotiCon> well sure but then you need to have python in order to run the program
#908 [12:56] <Dragonbut> Wait, how do I run the Python program?
#909 [12:56] <NotiCon> as aetherian just wrote
#910 [12:56] <NotiCon> python filename.py
#911 [12:57] <Morrolan> Aetherian: Well, guess with Python you might be right, as soon as it comes to a language which needs compiling and IDE seems easier to start with to me.
#912 [12:57] <Morrolan> though*
#913 [12:57] <Dragonbut> Okay
#914 [12:57] <Morrolan> an IDE*
#915 [12:57] <aetherian> text editor is always better than an IDE >:
#916 [12:57] <Morrolan> Hell no. Call me lazy, but I prefer IDEs. ;)
#917 [12:58] <Dragonbut> Gotta go, bye guys! :3
#918 [12:58] <aetherian> awe
#919 [12:58] <aetherian> I was just about to show him what nano looked like
#920 [12:59] <NotiCon> what does it look like then?
#921 [12:59] <aetherian> http://i.imgur.com/Q4sTX.png note: I got this source code off of a quick google and in no way shape or form say I wrote it. I just stole it to get some colors.
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#923 [13:01] <Morrolan> Oh, Conway's game of life, nice. :)
#924 [13:02] <blinky> ok well i fixed my game thanks so much morrolan :D
#925 [13:02] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#926 [13:03] <blinky> and i got my 26 diamonds back too woot!
#927 [13:03] <aetherian> Morrolan: but not really, as someone posted it asking for help with what was wrong with it :D
#928 [13:07] <aetherian> ugh
#929 [13:07] <aetherian> I have to do a presentation in front of the whole class tomorrow for college
#930 [13:08] <aetherian> so fun when you're the youngest in the class, and not just by a little, but noticeably so.
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#935 [13:18] <acky> are you hot?
#936 [13:18] <FatGiant> Need help with my server
#937 [13:18] <gPad2002> I hope acky didn't just say that
#938 [13:18] <aetherian> oh god
#939 [13:18] <aetherian> acky: yes, actually, I've had a fever for the past few days
#940 [13:19] <gPad2002> aetherian: The irony would be here if you were male :P
#941 [13:20] <FatGiant> I have verify-names set to false, and still any attempt to connect is kicked and the client is shutdown
#942 [13:20] <gPad2002> aetherian: Which is correct?
#943 [13:20] <gPad2002> FatGiant: Is the person connecting banned?
#944 [13:21] <acky> ;)
#945 [13:21] <FatGiant> no bans in banned.txt
#946 [13:21] * gPad2002 smacks acky
#946 [13:22] <FatGiant> I'm the one trying to connect to my own server, private server I may add
#947 [13:22] <gPad2002> What's the console say?
#948 [13:22] <FatGiant> 18:19:21 /192.168.1.71 connected 18:19:26 Kicking /192.168.1.71: You need to log in! 18:19:26 /192.168.1.71 disconnected
#949 [13:22] <gPad2002> Restart the server, you edited the Derrida without doing so
#950 [13:22] <gPad2002> Without doing so*
#951 [13:23] <gPad2002> Settings**
#952 [13:23] <FatGiant> ok
#953 [13:23] <FatGiant> to restart, I kill the java process and start it again?
#954 [13:24] <Morrolan> Aetherian: Hmm? Why does it make a difference wheter you're younger or not when presentating something?
#955 [13:24] <acky> ctrl+c?
#956 [13:24] <FatGiant> oh, ok
#957 [13:24] <Morrolan> younger that the others*
#958 [13:24] <FatGiant> same thing
#959 [13:25] <aetherian> Morrolan: when you're a kid who's taking a class in college, it's more unnerving to be young
#960 [13:25] <aetherian> purely psychological
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#962 [13:29] <Morrolan> Aetherian: Euh, could be. I wasn't the youngest in college, so I guess I don't know. I don't think that the young people in our class got treated different though. Anyway, doesn't matter I guess. ^^
#963 [13:29] <FatGiant> Any other thing I can try?
#964 [13:29] <gPad2002> Restart your client
#965 [13:30] <Morrolan> FatGiant: Wait, getting the "you need to log in" error?
#966 [13:30] <FatGiant> yes
#967 [13:30] <Morrolan> Let me guess, you're using the classic server, right?
#968 [13:30] <Morrolan> Use the server from here:
#969 [13:30] <Morrolan> !server
#970 [13:30] <Morrolan> Cause this error is caused by connecting to a classic server with a beta client.
#971 [13:31] <FatGiant> I am using the one in the minecraft.net site
#972 [13:31] <Morrolan> Yep, but the wrong one I bet.
#973 [13:31] <Morrolan> Where did you download it from?
#974 [13:31] <FatGiant> the one with minecraft-server.jar, not the _
#975 [13:31] <Morrolan> Yep, that's the wrong one.
#976 [13:31] <Morrolan> You have to download the one listed on the same page as the minecraft launcher.
#977 [13:32] <FatGiant> yes
#978 [13:32] <FatGiant> should I extract it?
#979 [13:33] <Morrolan> Euh nope, just run it like any other .exe respectively .jar
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#981 [13:34] <FatGiant> I am using this command to start: java -cp minecraft-server.jar com.mojang.mecraft.server.MinecraftServer
#982 [13:35] <Morrolan> Yes, and this IS THE WRONG SERVER
#983 [13:35] <FatGiant> do I need to change it?
#984 [13:35] <Morrolan> Use this one:
#985 [13:35] <Morrolan> !server
#986 [13:35] <Morrolan> Wait, you do want a Beta server, right?
#987 [13:35] <Morrolan> Not a classic one?
#988 [13:35] <FatGiant> yes
#989 [13:35] <FatGiant> a beta
#990 [13:35] <Morrolan> Then download the one from the link above.
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#992 [13:35] <FatGiant> I already did
#993 [13:36] <FatGiant> do I make it executable and run it?
#994 [13:36] <FatGiant> that's it?
#995 [13:36] <TheHuntdPie> Hey anybody here can help me with my minecraft error?
#996 [13:36] <Morrolan> FatGiant: If you want it without a GUI use this command: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#997 [13:36] <Morrolan> Else you can just doubleclick it.
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#999 [13:36] <Mixxit> im getting mega lag on my server but everyone else is fine - when i type a message it takes 5 or 6 seconds to show on screen, but i have craftirc installed and the message appears in the irc channel the instant i type it so why am i seeing fast response on irc but not in my minecraft client?
#1000 [13:37] <TheHuntdPie> I keep getting a "Network Timed out" error no matter which server i connect to
#1001 [13:37] <TheHuntdPie> "Connection Lost - Timed Out"
#1002 [13:38] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: What network card do you have?
#1003 [13:39] <TheHuntdPie> WN311B wireless
#1004 [13:40] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: but i dont think its the issue cuz i connected earlier with wired and still had problems
#1005 [13:40] <Morrolan> That's Netgear, right? Should be fine then.
#1006 [13:40] <TheHuntdPie> this is only in the beta. in the alpha i connected fine and played for hours
#1007 [13:40] <Morrolan> (Atheros cards are causing problems, that's why I asked)
#1008 [13:41] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: in the beta i cant connect to any servers
#1009 [13:41] <Morrolan> That's really strange. Did you make sure that your security software isn't blocking Minecraft?
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#1013 [13:44] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: yer
#1014 [13:46] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: i disabled antivir and windows firewall and connected a server with 86ms ping
#1015 [13:46] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: I can only advise you to ask again later, there will be some people online with knowledge far superior to mine when it comes to network issues. ;9
#1016 [13:46] <TheHuntdPie> and still no dice
#1017 [13:46] <FatGiant> ok, I'm in
#1018 [13:46] <Morrolan> :/*
#1019 [13:46] <TheHuntdPie> i dont even load one chucnk
#1020 [13:46] <Morrolan> FatGiant: Nice. :)
#1021 [13:46] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: like who?
#1022 [13:46] <FatGiant> now, how to I make it private and change the settings?
#1023 [13:47] <TheHuntdPie> right now im stuck in single player ;_;
#1024 [13:47] <TheHuntdPie> boring and lonely :(
#1025 [13:47] <aetherian> ..
#1026 [13:47] <aetherian> what is with people saying single player is boring
#1027 [13:48] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: DopeGhoti or GreyVulpine are the two I can think of right now.
#1028 [13:48] <aetherian> it's multiplayer without the griefers
#1029 [13:48] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: Actually, did you try a local server already?
#1030 [13:48] <TheHuntdPie> aetherian: >> get a whitelisted server
#1031 [13:48] <Morrolan> FatGiant: What settings do you want to change exactly?
#1032 [13:48] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: how do i do that
#1033 [13:48] <Morrolan> Some things like mobs can be turned on and off in the server.properties file. (Open it with any texteditor)
#1034 [13:48] <aetherian> TheHuntdPie: fine, multiplayer without the griefers and the asshole moderators
#1035 [13:48] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: Just download the server software, run it and connect to it via the internal ip.
#1036 [13:49] <Morrolan> !server
#1037 [13:49] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: ok now what
#1038 [13:49] <FatGiant> I want to allow my kids to play without a minecraft account
#1039 [13:49] <Morrolan> FatGiant: Not possible.
#1040 [13:49] <Morrolan> Or atleast we can't give you support on that here, sorry. ;)
#1041 [13:49] <aetherian> pity, FatGiant
#1042 [13:50] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: Just run the .exe or .jar file.
#1043 [13:50] <TheHuntdPie> now what
#1044 [13:50] <FatGiant> so I can't no longer play without an account
#1045 [13:50] <Morrolan> Then you can connect to it by typing "localhost" in the server ip field of Miencraft.
#1046 [13:50] <Morrolan> FatGiant: You were never supposed to anyway.
#1047 [13:50] <FatGiant> I have one
#1048 [13:51] <Morrolan> You know, there are obviously hacked clients and servers which allow to play without paying, but we will not give support for these here, sorry.
#1049 [13:51] <Morrolan> So I suggest you just buy an account for your children. :)
#1050 [13:51] <aetherian> notch needs his coffee money too
#1051 [13:51] <FatGiant> we used to play on our private server, and them just played without login
#1052 [13:51] <FatGiant> :)
#1053 [13:52] <FatGiant> I don't mind buying it
#1054 [13:52] <Morrolan> Ok then. :)
#1055 [13:52] <FatGiant> but, they will not make much use of it
#1056 [13:52] <FatGiant> :(
#1057 [13:53] <aetherian> that's like going into a store and asking for a discount on something because you won't use it often :|
#1058 [13:53] <Morrolan> Well, they might get hooked on to the game, you never know. ;)
#1059 [13:53] <FatGiant> ok, I get it, and, I am not saying I am right or whatever
#1060 [13:54] <FatGiant> I was just exploring the possibility of doing what we used to do a while ago
#1061 [13:54] <Morrolan> Well, if they aren't playing at the same time (I doubt it, but who knows) you could just buy one account first. :7
#1062 [13:54] <Morrolan> :/*
#1063 [13:54] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: im logged in now what
#1064 [13:54] <FatGiant> if it's not possible... no problem
#1065 [13:54] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: Logged in to the server? Or the minecraft client?
#1066 [13:55] <TheHuntdPie> logged into localhost
#1067 [13:55] <FatGiant> but can you tell me at least how to make the server private?
#1068 [13:55] <Morrolan> FatGiant: Just don't forward any ports, and noone will be able to connect from outside.
#1069 [13:55] <aetherian> FatGiant: by not telling anyone the IP
#1070 [13:56] <aetherian> I shall be back shortly
#1071 [13:56] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: im logged into my new server
#1072 [13:56] <FatGiant> so server.properties no longer exist?
#1073 [13:56] <Morrolan> FatGiant: It does.
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#1075 [13:57] <FatGiant> where is it then?
#1076 [13:57] <Morrolan> Just launch the server and it'll get generated. However, your server will not get listed anywhere automatically, so no need to worry about this.
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#1078 [13:57] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: Ok, so if this works it must be something with your internet connection.
#1079 [13:57] <Jmancino2> hello...how long between the nickserv register and the actual ability to talk? thanks! :)
#1080 [13:57] <Morrolan> I can again only advise you to ask your question in an hour or so, there might be people online who can help you then.
#1081 [13:58] <Morrolan> Jmancino: You will receive an email with a code you need to /msg nickserv.
#1082 [13:58] <Morrolan> Did you already do this?
#1083 [13:58] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: my server is really laggy though and i cant destroy blocks. maybe thats got to do with it?
#1084 [13:59] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: The spawn area is protected, walk a little while and try again.
#1085 [13:59] <Jmancino2> oh ok :) I will check my spam mail folder :)
#1086 [13:59] <aetherian> it'sa me
#1087 [13:59] <FatGiant> sorry, I don't see server.properties anywhere
#1088 [14:00] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: the world does not generate chunks...
#1089 [14:00] <aetherian> what do you see, giant
#1090 [14:00] <FatGiant> only the minecraft_server.jar
#1091 [14:00] <aetherian> launch it
#1092 [14:00] <FatGiant> nothing else
#1093 [14:00] <aetherian> wait for it to load
#1094 [14:00] <aetherian> then exit it
#1095 [14:00] <FatGiant> it's running
#1096 [14:00] <aetherian> oh really
#1097 [14:00] <aetherian> did it fully load?
#1098 [14:01] <FatGiant> yes
#1099 [14:01] <FatGiant> now I stoped it, and still nothing else
#1100 [14:01] <Morrolan> FatGiant: There should be a file called server.properties in the same folder as the server file is. :/
#1101 [14:01] <aetherian> exit it and launch it again, if you don't see the other stuff
#1102 [14:01] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: i keeping get this error: WARNING Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#1103 [14:01] <aetherian> that's normal
#1104 [14:01] <FatGiant> INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.4_01 [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565 [INFO] Preparing level "world" [INFO] Preparing start region [INFO] Done (632282344ns)! For help, type "help" or "?"
#1105 [14:02] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: This means that your Hard disk can't keep up. That error message is rather normal, no need to worry about this.
#1106 [14:02] <aetherian> FatGiant: then yes, server.properties is in there somewhere
#1107 [14:02] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: can i run a server in ram?
#1108 [14:02] <Morrolan> FatGiant: It did load it successfully, so it NEEDS to be in the same folder as Minecraft_server.jar
#1109 [14:02] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: Yea, you can use a RAMdisk, I can't help you with that though, never tried it.
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#1111 [14:03] <Jmancino2> is there a way to get the nickserv to resend the validation code?
#1112 [14:03] * Jmancino2 might be being impatient >.>
#1112 [14:04] <aetherian> try registering again, that may work
#1113 [14:04] <Morrolan> Jmancion: Try the REGISTER command again
#1114 [14:04] <Morrolan> Oh, ninja'd
#1115 [14:05] <TheHuntdPie> Morrolan: so the verdict is network issue?
#1116 [14:05] <gPad2002> Jmancino2: /msg nickserv SENDPASS
#1117 [14:05] <gPad2002> really, RTFM guys
#1118 [14:05] <gPad2002> ./msg nickserv help
#1119 [14:06] <Jmancino2> lol but I'm not verified
#1120 [14:06] <Morrolan> TheHuntdPie: I have no clue, really.
#1121 [14:06] * Jmancino2 is being that guy, isn't he? :)
#1121 [14:07] <Morrolan> gPad: Sendpass was only to reset your password I thought?
#1122 [14:07] <Morrolan> And not to resend the verification code when registering a nickname?
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#1126 [14:26] <Jmancino2> is there any way to get manual verification of my account if I never get the nickserv email? :)
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#1128 [14:27] <Jmancino2> or, any way to change the email address...
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#1130 [14:30] <aetherian> using the register command again didn't work?
#1131 [14:30] <TheHuntdPie> any network specialists log on yet?
#1132 [14:30] <Jmancino2> I think I figured it out...I dropped, then I re registered w/a different email :)
#1133 [14:30] <TheHuntdPie> Im having huge network issues
#1134 [14:30] <aetherian> what is it, TheHuntdPie
#1135 [14:30] <Jmancino2> and hey, when you use REAL email (I may have used an AOL account, but I didn't mean it, I swear) it works!
#1136 [14:31] <TheHuntdPie> aetherian: ever since beta I can't log into any servers without timing out
#1137 [14:31] <aetherian> it's not AOL, it's ALOL
#1138 [14:31] <aetherian> TheHuntdPie: and you could in alpha?
#1139 [14:31] <TheHuntdPie> right
#1140 [14:32] <aetherian> and you've reinstalled minecraft?
#1141 [14:32] <TheHuntdPie> several times
#1142 [14:32] <aetherian> oh I know
#1143 [14:32] <TheHuntdPie> aetherian: i dont have an aetheros netcard
#1144 [14:33] <aetherian> make a new account on your computer and try to do it through that
#1145 [14:33] <TheHuntdPie> aetherian: tried already. no work
#1146 [14:33] <aetherian> oh
#1147 [14:34] <aetherian> I assume you redownloaded minecraft.jar/exe when you did that rather than just going to the directory of the other account?
#1148 [14:34] <TheHuntdPie> ill do everything all over again. brb
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#1153 [14:41] <TheHuntedPie> hey Im back
#1154 [14:41] <TheHuntedPie> aetherian: ok installed new version, new account, firewall off, antivir off
#1155 [14:42] <TheHuntedPie> aetherian: Non aethoros card connecting to server with 84ms ping
#1156 [14:44] <TheHuntedPie> Anybody still here?
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#1158 [14:44] <TheHuntedPie> hello?
#1159 [14:44] <TheHuntedPie> anyone hear me?
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#1161 [14:46] <TheHuntedPie> hello?
#1162 [14:46] <TheHuntedPie> AuBot: testing
#1163 [14:46] <aetherian> what what
#1164 [14:46] <aetherian> calm down
#1165 [14:46] <aetherian> I was away from mah 'bo'
#1166 [14:46] <TheHuntedPie> oh...i thought my whole network connection died
#1167 [14:47] <aetherian> what? I can't hear you over all this noise
#1168 [14:47] <TheHuntedPie> u never know with the problems ive been having
#1169 [14:47] <aetherian> you're breaking up with me
#1170 [14:47] <aetherian> I'm looosiiinggg yooouuuuu
#1171 [14:47] <aetherian> but, ah, did it work?
#1172 [14:47] <florianrott> hi ive a question for you all
#1173 [14:47] <aetherian> what
#1174 [14:48] <TheHuntedPie> no...no chunks loaded it just timed out
#1175 [14:48] <aetherian> brb
#1176 [14:48] <TheHuntedPie> aetherian: ok
#1177 [14:48] <florianrott> anybody knows why i cant play minecraft with google chrome?
#1178 [14:48] <aetherian> back
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#1182 [14:54] <TheHuntedPie> aetherian: wb
#1183 [14:54] <TheHuntedPie> aetherian: im reinstalling java and deleting my Java app settings
#1184 [14:55] <aetherian> when you say reinstall
#1185 [14:55] <aetherian> that means a complete uninstall, I hope
#1186 [14:55] <TheHuntedPie> aetherian: Im gonna use Glary utilities enhanced untinstall to be sure
#1187 [14:59] <TheHuntedPie> ok all traces of java gone
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#1189 [15:01] <TheHuntedPie> installing new version
#1190 [15:01] <TheHuntedPie> aetherian: any other suggestions in the mean time?
#1191 [15:04] <aetherian> well, you've already reinstalled minecraft by deleting .minecraft/bin, so just wait for it to install
#1192 [15:04] <TheHuntedPie> aetherian: "Connection Lost - Time out"
#1193 [15:04] <aetherian> oh what fun
#1194 [15:04] <TheHuntedPie> yeah...
#1195 [15:04] <aetherian> open up a command prompt
#1196 [15:04] <TheHuntedPie> Im at a loss
#1197 [15:04] <TheHuntedPie> ok
#1198 [15:04] <aetherian> see if you can ping the server, at least
#1199 [15:05] <TheHuntedPie> i told u i did and got avg 87ms
#1200 [15:05] <TheHuntedPie> 84ms*
#1201 [15:05] <TheHuntedPie> that should be pretty dam decent for a game server
#1202 [15:05] <aetherian> then I'd recommend you wait until somebody else gets here to help you
#1203 [15:05] <TheHuntedPie> *sigh*
#1204 [15:06] <TheHuntedPie> like who :x
#1205 [15:06] <aetherian> uh
#1206 [15:06] <TheHuntedPie> ur the second guy to throw his arms up in despair
#1207 [15:06] <aetherian> who was the first
#1208 [15:06] <TheHuntedPie> er... dam i dont remembre but he made it clear that he doesnt do networking
#1209 [15:06] <aetherian> I hardly do anything :D
#1210 [15:06] <TheHuntedPie> lol
#1211 [15:07] * aetherian definitely doesn't half-ass his way through helping people
#1211 [15:07] <TheHuntedPie> well u know what a command prompt is so you must know something
#1212 [15:07] <TheHuntedPie> and u walked me through all the regular first aid
#1213 [15:07] <aetherian> I'm not a complete troglodyte
#1214 [15:07] <aetherian> oh oh oh
#1215 [15:07] <aetherian> you run windows
#1216 [15:07] <aetherian> try restarting :D
#1217 [15:07] <TheHuntedPie> yeah but i got the same issue in ubuntu
#1218 [15:07] <TheHuntedPie> linux
#1219 [15:08] <TheHuntedPie> im really thinking its connected to my ISP
#1220 [15:08] <TheHuntedPie> in some way
#1221 [15:08] <TheHuntedPie> but the fact that it worked in alpha
#1222 [15:08] <aetherian> What ISP?
#1223 [15:08] <TheHuntedPie> is driving me mad
#1224 [15:08] <TheHuntedPie> Bezeq
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#1226 [15:08] <aetherian> huh
#1227 [15:08] <TheHuntedPie> in Israel
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#1230 [15:08] <TheHuntedPie> i have a 8gb connection
#1231 [15:08] <TheHuntedPie> from Israel, which gives me 1.6gb in UK
#1232 [15:08] <aetherian> I hate DSL
#1233 [15:09] <TheHuntedPie> yeah wel its all i got
#1234 [15:09] <aetherian> I've got a crummy internet >.>
#1235 [15:09] <TheHuntedPie> whats crummy?
#1236 [15:09] <aetherian> my ping, mainly
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#1238 [15:09] <TheHuntedPie> whats ur ping?
#1239 [15:09] <Essentials0366> hello thoatt
#1240 [15:09] <aetherian> ~250 for games, essentially
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#1242 [15:10] <aetherian> ack
#1243 [15:10] <TheHuntedPie> aetherian: that sucks...at least u can connect though... my 84ms aint worth shit if i cant connect.
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#1245 [15:10] <aetherian> at least my download speed is fine: we upgraded to a full 256 baud last month :o
#1246 [15:10] <TheHuntedPie> cool
#1247 [15:11] <TheHuntedPie> calling all network geeks with impossible Minecraft error challenge!
#1248 [15:11] <aetherian> psst
#1249 [15:11] <aetherian> greyvulpy
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#1251 [15:11] <aetherian> bread
#1252 [15:11] <aetherian> help TheHuntedPie
#1253 [15:12] <aetherian> kuh-th'an x
#1254 [15:12] <bread> lolwut
#1255 [15:12] <aetherian> help him now
#1256 [15:12] <bread> ._.
#1257 [15:12] <aetherian> I already gave up and everybody else is away
#1258 [15:12] <TheHuntedPie> ;_;
#1259 [15:12] <aetherian> :D
#1260 [15:12] <TheHuntedPie> .-.
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#1263 [15:13] <n> neviklink
#1264 [15:13] * bread r derp
#1264 [15:13] <aetherian> aaand I gotta go
#1265 [15:13] * bread doesn't know anything
#1265 [15:13] <TheHuntedPie> bread do u know networkings ?
#1266 [15:13] <aetherian> bread: you likely know more than me then
#1267 [15:13] <bread> lol probably not
#1268 [15:13] * TheHuntedPie doesnt beleive teh bread
#1268 [15:14] <TheHuntedPie> bread at least we can try :P
#1269 [15:14] <TheHuntedPie> i have no hopes atm ;_;
#1270 [15:14] <TheHuntedPie> my issue isnt documented anywhere
#1271 [15:14] <TheHuntedPie> i googled and bingled and yahooed and spangled
#1272 [15:14] <bread> spangled
#1273 [15:14] <bread> lolwut
#1274 [15:14] <TheHuntedPie> and nobody has mah answers
#1275 [15:14] <TheHuntedPie> lolya i just made that one up :P
#1276 [15:15] <bread> loool
#1277 [15:15] <reinaldobr> hi there!
#1278 [15:15] <TheHuntedPie> so um...
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#1280 [15:15] <TheHuntedPie> my problem is like this: Connection Lost - Timed Out
#1281 [15:16] <reinaldobr> id like to ask... anyone here wolud know how to run minecraft on a macbook pro
#1282 [15:16] <reinaldobr> ?
#1283 [15:16] <bread> reinaldobr: download it, and run it?
#1284 [15:16] <reinaldobr> yeah...
#1285 [15:16] <reinaldobr> not so simple
#1286 [15:16] <TheHuntedPie> reinaldobr: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1287 [15:16] <bread> ^
#1288 [15:16] <TheHuntedPie> reinaldobr: Mac OSX: Download Minecraft.zip, extract the Minecraft app, then run it.
#1289 [15:16] <bread> Download Minecraft.zip, extract the Minecraft app, then run it.
#1290 [15:16] <bread> ha
#1291 [15:16] <bread> :>
#1292 [15:17] <reinaldobr> lag spikes so high that i cant even see anything
#1293 [15:17] <bread> then your computer likely sucks.
#1294 [15:17] <bread> and isn't able to run it.
#1295 [15:17] <TheHuntedPie> reinaldobr: press F to change fog distance
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#1297 [15:17] <reinaldobr> will try!
#1298 [15:17] <bread> change graphics to simple, turn off the special lighting, and change fog distance to tiny
#1299 [15:18] <bread> If it still runs like crap after that, you're SOL
#1300 [15:18] <TheHuntedPie> reinaldobr: or Esc> Options> Video Settings > everything bread just said
#1301 [15:18] <TheHuntedPie> bread: ok so um can u help me o.o
#1302 [15:18] <bread> :o
#1303 [15:18] <TheHuntedPie> I keep getitng Timed out
#1304 [15:18] <bread> What's your OS?
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#1306 [15:19] <TheHuntedPie> WinXP/Ubuntu 11.04
#1307 [15:19] <bread> and it happens on both?
#1308 [15:19] <TheHuntedPie> ya
#1309 [15:19] <TheHuntedPie> Id hate to think its ISP related
#1310 [15:19] <bread> then it's more likely a hardware problem, or problem with your net connection or whatever
#1311 [15:20] <TheHuntedPie> used 2 computers
#1312 [15:20] <TheHuntedPie> even hardwired connection
#1313 [15:20] <Morrolan> TheHuntedPie: Do you have another PC with which you could try it?
#1314 [15:20] <bread> does everything else work fine?
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#1316 [15:20] <TheHuntedPie> Morrolan: did already
#1317 [15:20] <TheHuntedPie> bread: every other program works fine
#1318 [15:20] <bread> .___.
#1319 [15:20] <TheHuntedPie> nothing else has problems with internet
#1320 [15:21] <TheHuntedPie> just minecraft
#1321 [15:21] <TheHuntedPie> and minecraft alpha didnt have problems either
#1322 [15:21] <TheHuntedPie> just the beta
#1323 [15:21] <bread> madnes
#1324 [15:21] <TheHuntedPie> starts with issues now
#1325 [15:21] <bread> s
#1326 [15:21] <TheHuntedPie> ya...
#1327 [15:21] <bread> maybe it's a jaca problem?
#1328 [15:21] <bread> er
#1329 [15:21] <bread> java
#1330 [15:22] <TheHuntedPie> i reinstalled java
#1331 [15:22] <bread> well balls
#1332 [15:22] <TheHuntedPie> very big ones...
#1333 [15:23] <bread> have you tried from elsewhere? i.e. library, or somewhere
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#1336 [15:24] <TheHuntedPie> bread: i could try to get on my neighbors wireless but that wont do me any good really
#1337 [15:25] <bread> well if you could try from anywhere else, that could narrow down whether it's a problem with your net or not
#1338 [15:26] <virresss> hi! i bout minecraft tree hours ago bu i can't change my skin. why?
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#1340 [15:29] <Morrolan> Bread: Since he already tried from a different computer in the same network I don't think that this'd be of any use.
#1341 [15:30] <Morrolan> Virresss: Are you already able to download the client? (aka are you already a premium user)?
#1342 [15:30] <virresss> yeah
#1343 [15:30] <Morrolan> Ok, now what happens when you try to change your skin?
#1344 [15:31] <virresss> well i klick on uppload the page refresh and no change
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#1347 [15:32] <Morrolan> Ah, I think that's normal. Try ingame to see if it works, if I remember correctly the preview is bugged.
#1348 [15:32] <virresss> ok
#1349 [15:33] <virresss> hehe it worked :P
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#1351 [15:34] <Morrolan> Ok. :)
#1352 [15:34] <virresss> thx
#1353 [15:35] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
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#1356 [15:44] <Vincent> hi
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#1358 [15:45] <Vincent> how can i play mc on linux?
#1359 [15:45] <mib_2zguw7> i have a question i habe a pixel bug pls help
#1360 [15:45] <Vincent> pixel bug?
#1361 [15:46] <Vincent> it looks pixelly standard
#1362 [15:46] <mib_2zguw7> org.lw.......cant loading pixel -.-
#1363 [15:46] <mib_2zguw7> org.lwjgl.lwjglexception
#1364 [15:46] <Vincent> please use proper english
#1365 [15:46] <mib_2zguw7> this have faild to stard minecreaft
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#1367 [15:46] <Morrolan> Vincent: Download the .jar file and launch it.
#1368 [15:46] <Morrolan> !client
#1369 [15:46] <mib_2zguw7> okay
#1370 [15:47] <Morrolan> Mib: Paste your error on pastebin.com
#1371 [15:47] <Vincent> morrolan: it wont run
#1372 [15:47] <Morrolan> Vincent: What does it spit out?
#1373 [15:47] <Morrolan> Or, what exactly happens?
#1374 [15:47] <Vincent> The file '/media/EC6C99216C98E79A/Documents and Settings/Administrator/AppData/Roaming/minecraft/Minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable. If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run. For more details, read about the executable bit.
#1375 [15:48] <Morrolan> Huh, did you already try to launch it via the console?
#1376 [15:48] <Vincent> i have java installed
#1377 [15:48] <Vincent> yes
#1378 [15:48] <Vincent> but that gave errors
#1379 [15:48] <Vincent> $ java -jar ~/media/EC6C99216C98E79A/Documents and Settings/Administrator/AppData/Roaming/minecraft/minecraft.jar/ Unable to access jarfile /home/vincent/media/EC6C99216C98E79A/Documents
#1380 [15:49] <Morrolan> Put the path in quotes.
#1381 [15:49] <Morrolan> Cause I think the problem is the space in "Documents and settings"
#1382 [15:49] <Vincent> uhh
#1383 [15:49] <Vincent> wait
#1384 [15:49] <Morrolan> As you see it looks for the jarfile in /home/vincent/media/EC6C99216C98E79A/Documents , so it's missing half the path.
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#1386 [15:52] <Vincent> ye
#1387 [15:53] <Vincent> now i have put it to my desk
#1388 [15:53] <Morrolan> Ok.
#1389 [15:53] <Vincent> java -jar ~/Bureaublad/minecraft/minecraft.jar Unable to access jarfile /home/vincent/Bureaublad/minecraft/minecraft.jar
#1390 [15:53] <Vincent> then that happens
#1391 [15:53] <Morrolan> Ok, try it with this command then: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1392 [15:53] <Vincent> always the same
#1393 [15:54] <Morrolan> If you have atleast one GB of RAM, that is.
#1394 [15:54] <Vincent> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1395 [15:54] <Vincent> oops
#1396 [15:54] <BarryCarlyon> Sounds like the linux user does not have permission to access the file.
#1397 [15:54] <Vincent> oh wait
#1398 [15:54] <Vincent> ill do sudo login
#1399 [15:54] <Morrolan> BarryCarlyon: Oh, if you're a Linux guy I'd appreciate it if you could take over.
#1400 [15:55] <BarryCarlyon> Vincent: do a ls -li
#1401 [15:56] <BarryCarlyon> and see if the file is the same user as the user you are trying to run it as.
#1402 [15:56] <BarryCarlyon> Morrolan: :-D
#1403 [15:56] <Morrolan> Hehe, thanks, I'm not that familiar with Linux. :D
#1404 [15:56] <Vincent> ls -li
#1405 [15:56] <Vincent> ?
#1406 [15:57] <TheHuntedPie> any netowrk experts ehre?
#1407 [15:57] <BarryCarlyon> Vincent: you are running linux yes?
#1408 [15:58] <TheHuntedPie> BarryCarlyon: u know linux that means u know networking too?
#1409 [15:58] <Vincent> Uhh
#1410 [15:58] <Vincent> ye
#1411 [15:58] <Vincent> Well, no
#1412 [15:58] <Vincent> Xd
#1413 [15:58] <BarryCarlyon> TheHuntedPie: to some degree whats up?
#1414 [15:59] <BarryCarlyon> Vincent: what are you running OS wise?
#1415 [15:59] <TheHuntedPie> I've established that something in the way Minecraft handles network connection has changed
#1416 [15:59] <TheHuntedPie> in alpha i connected fine but in beta i get Timed out on every server
#1417 [15:59] <Vincent> im running LinuxMint 10
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#1419 [15:59] <TheHuntedPie> ive also established that this is specific to my ISP
#1420 [15:59] <McBag> Hi
#1421 [15:59] <TheHuntedPie> other wirelss connections in the area have no problem connecting to minecraft
#1422 [15:59] <BarryCarlyon> TheHuntedPie: hmm what about other network games?
#1423 [15:59] <Vincent> maybe some ports?
#1424 [15:59] <TheHuntedPie> Barry most games have no problem but i can double check
#1425 [16:00] <McBag> People can't connect to my server
#1426 [16:00] <McBag> connection refused
#1427 [16:00] <BarryCarlyon> Vincent: not your problem is not ports your probelm is stiill being disagnose.
#1428 [16:00] <McBag> is the error
#1429 [16:00] <Vincent> mcbag
#1430 [16:00] <McBag> any idea?
#1431 [16:00] <BarryCarlyon> McBag: sorts like closed ports.
#1432 [16:00] <Vincent> you need to portforward
#1433 [16:00] <McBag> oh
#1434 [16:00] <BarryCarlyon> Vincent: what version of java did you install?
#1435 [16:00] <McBag> in my router?
#1436 [16:00] <Vincent> 6
#1437 [16:00] <BarryCarlyon> open or sun java?
#1438 [16:00] <BarryCarlyon> McBag: yes 25565 needs forwarding.
#1439 [16:00] <Vincent> uhh
#1440 [16:00] <Vincent> idk
#1441 [16:00] <Vincent> Xd
#1442 [16:01] <Vincent> xD
#1443 [16:01] <BarryCarlyon> McBag: assuming you are using the default port.
#1444 [16:01] <BarryCarlyon> Vincent: that could be the problem you hava grabbed the wrong java.
#1445 [16:01] <Vincent> ye
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#1447 [16:01] <Vincent> mcbag
#1448 [16:01] <McBag> k
#1449 [16:01] <McBag> yeah?
#1450 [16:02] <Vincent> i could help u sometime with portforwarding
#1451 [16:02] <McBag> cool
#1452 [16:02] <McBag> how?
#1453 [16:02] <Vincent> with Teamviewer
#1454 [16:02] <Vincent> :P
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#1456 [16:02] <BarryCarlyon> McBag: do you not know how?
#1457 [16:02] <TheHuntedPie> BarryCarlyon: any clues to what is wrong?
#1458 [16:02] <BarryCarlyon> There are plenty of tutorials.
#1459 [16:02] <BarryCarlyon> TheHuntedPie: nope :-(
#1460 [16:02] <McBag> kk
#1461 [16:03] <TheHuntedPie> BarryCarlyon: any way to troubleshoot it even?
#1462 [16:03] <BarryCarlyon> TheHuntedPie: there was something about changing wireless transmit speed/limits
#1463 [16:03] <BarryCarlyon> That was more a general java problem.
#1464 [16:03] <TheHuntedPie> BarryCarlyon: ihave problems with hardwired too and the wireless they told me is only with atheros cards
#1465 [16:03] <BarryCarlyon> Ah.
#1466 [16:03] <BarryCarlyon> Atheros is bad so I hear in this channel.
#1467 [16:03] <Vincent> yep
#1468 [16:04] <McBag> I know how
#1469 [16:04] <TheHuntedPie> either way i dont have an atheros
#1470 [16:04] <BarryCarlyon> McBag: here is the primary resource, just find you routers make and model: http://portforward.com/
#1471 [16:04] <Vincent> i have a lan chipset on my motherboard
#1472 [16:04] <BarryCarlyon> McBag: coolio.
#1473 [16:04] <TheHuntedPie> and when i connect using a neighbors wirelss there is no problem
#1474 [16:04] <Vincent> it shutdowns so frequently
#1475 [16:04] <McBag> Did it hundrets of times
#1476 [16:04] <TheHuntedPie> its clearly related to my ISP
#1477 [16:04] <TheHuntedPie> the question is what network settings can i change to fix thte issue
#1478 [16:04] <McBag> but my friend has an awkward router
#1479 [16:04] <McBag> alice
#1480 [16:05] <TheHuntedPie> ok or maybe its my router
#1481 [16:05] <McBag> router
#1482 [16:05] * BarryCarlyon shrugs
#1482 [16:05] <Vincent> you could change channel
#1483 [16:05] <Vincent> and open some ports
#1484 [16:05] <TheHuntedPie> vincent whos that for?
#1485 [16:06] <Vincent> wut?
#1486 [16:06] <Vincent> ports?
#1487 [16:06] <TheHuntedPie> ya
#1488 [16:06] <Vincent> well
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#1491 [16:06] <Vincent> you never know ;)
#1492 [16:06] <TheHuntedPie> the thing is i can connect to servers it just disconnects after 4 mins
#1493 [16:06] <TheHuntedPie> like autoshutdown
#1494 [16:07] <Vincent> well
#1495 [16:07] <Vincent> or you have crappy isp
#1496 [16:07] <Vincent> with low downloadspeeds
#1497 [16:07] <TheHuntedPie> 1mb up 8mb down
#1498 [16:07] <Morrolan> TheHuntedPie: What router are you using?
#1499 [16:07] <TheHuntedPie> using edimax router
#1500 [16:08] <Vincent> mine 40mb down 4 m up
#1501 [16:08] <Vincent> :D
#1502 [16:08] <TheHuntedPie> o____o
#1503 [16:08] <TheHuntedPie> Morrolan: u think its my router?
#1504 [16:08] <McBag> mine 1gbit up 1gbit down
#1505 [16:08] <Vincent> mcbag shutup
#1506 [16:08] <TheHuntedPie> Oo____oO
#1507 [16:08] <McBag> it's true
#1508 [16:08] <Vincent> unpossible
#1509 [16:08] <McBag> not really
#1510 [16:08] <TheHuntedPie> Unimpossible.
#1511 [16:09] <Vincent> 0.o
#1512 [16:09] <Morrolan> TheHuntedPie: Well, either that or it's your ISP. I think it's more likely that it's your router, but I don't know. :/
#1513 [16:09] <McBag> there are already 2gbit servers
#1514 [16:09] <Thoatt|Sleep> Inconcieveable!
#1515 [16:09] <Vincent> well
#1516 [16:10] <TheHuntedPie> if its inconceivable u can always use a test tube
#1517 [16:10] <Vincent> guysm, g2go
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#1519 [16:10] <TheHuntedPie> cya vincent
#1520 [16:10] <McBag> bye
#1521 [16:10] <Morrolan> I'm off, have a nice day.
#1522 [16:10] <Vincent> sya t'morrow
#1523 [16:10] <TheHuntedPie> how do i test my router for problems?
#1524 [16:10] <Thoatt> You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
#1525 [16:11] <TheHuntedPie> which word?
#1526 [16:11] <Thoatt> TheHuntedPie: Soak it in water, look for bubbles.
#1527 [16:11] <TheHuntedPie> Thoatt: soap water or plain?
#1528 [16:11] <Thoatt> slightly soapy.
#1529 [16:11] <TheHuntedPie> k brb
#1530 [16:11] <Thoatt> k
#1531 [16:12] <TheHuntedPie> warm or cold?
#1532 [16:12] <aetherian> warm
#1533 [16:12] <Thoatt> lukewarm, with a pH of 7.3
#1534 [16:12] <TheHuntedPie> kk
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#1536 [16:12] <TheHuntedPie> how do i measure the pH?
#1537 [16:12] <aetherian> carefully
#1538 [16:12] <Thoatt> pH testing strips
#1539 [16:12] <Thoatt> E.G.: http://www.amazon.com/PHion-Balance-Diagnostic-Strips-90-Count/dp/B000VRU4US
#1540 [16:12] <TheHuntedPie> i onlyhave thermometer, can u tell me the ph in degrees?
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#1542 [16:13] <Thoatt> Yes, take the degrees, add the radians, divide by pi and add 3.
#1543 [16:13] <Thoatt> in that order, not order-of-opperations
#1544 [16:14] <TheHuntedPie> the radians is the circumference of the circle contained within the size of my router right?
#1545 [16:14] <Thoatt> yes, circumscribed within.
#1546 [16:14] <TheHuntedPie> k so number of degrees with thermometer + that
#1547 [16:14] <TheHuntedPie> and divide by pi
#1548 [16:14] <TheHuntedPie> + 3
#1549 [16:14] <Thoatt> don't forget to carry the 4, and remember to add 3!
#1550 [16:15] <TheHuntedPie> thats the temperature right?
#1551 [16:15] <BarryCarlyon> o.0
#1552 [16:15] <TheHuntedPie> ok soaking router now
#1553 [16:15] <Thoatt> k
#1554 [16:15] <TheHuntedPie> ...i see bubbles..
#1555 [16:15] <BarryCarlyon> :-D
#1556 [16:15] <Thoatt> well crap..
#1557 [16:15] <TheHuntedPie> small bubles coming from the cracks of router
#1558 [16:15] <Thoatt> looks like you need a new one.
#1559 [16:15] <Thoatt> unless you can find a patch for that one.
#1560 [16:15] <TheHuntedPie> the lights on the router just went off...
#1561 [16:16] <Thoatt> you let too many bubbles out!
#1562 [16:16] <Thoatt> add more bubbles to it now
#1563 [16:16] <TheHuntedPie> ....dude...this not funny wwhy my lights goo off
#1564 [16:16] <Thoatt> do you have a turkey baster?
#1565 [16:16] <TheHuntedPie> i think...its yeah i thi[nk i have one
#1566 [16:16] <TheHuntedPie> what do i do with it?
#1567 [16:17] <Thoatt> ok, fill it up with air, make sure it's EXACTLY 4.2% oxygen, then use that to add air to the router.
#1568 [16:17] <Thoatt> there should be a filling hole in the back
#1569 [16:17] <TheHuntedPie> its my moms though i think she lets me use it
#1570 [16:17] <TheHuntedPie> ok second
#1571 [16:17] <TheHuntedPie> theres no filling hole so im making one with a drill. brb
#1572 [16:18] <Thoatt> kk
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#1574 [16:18] <Thoatt> 1/8" bit though
#1575 [16:18] <TheHuntedPie> kk
#1576 [16:18] <Thoatt> use a drill with exactly 328 rpm
#1577 [16:18] <TheHuntedPie> metal or wood bit?
#1578 [16:18] <Alexisdesu> hey is there any nonpremuin servers?
#1579 [16:18] <Thoatt> preferably metal, but wood will work
#1580 [16:18] <TheHuntedPie> k ill use metal
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#1582 [16:19] <TheHuntedPie> it doesnt say the rpm but i hope if i press the drill very strong it willw ork
#1583 [16:19] <TheHuntedPie> phew...makes alot of sparks...
#1584 [16:19] <gAway2002> reloading bot settings
#1585 [16:19] <gAway2002> I expect it to post three messages in here
#1586 [16:19] <gAway2002> within the next five minutes
#1587 [16:19] <gAway2002> ~reload
#1588 [16:19] <relsqui> Alexisdesu: there are classic servers, yes
#1589 [16:20] * gAway2002 goes afk
#1589 [16:20] <TheHuntedPie> Thoatt: are there supposed to be so many sparks?
#1590 [16:20] <Thoatt> Only if you use a metal bit, the wood bit has a campfire smell.
#1591 [16:21] <TheHuntedPie> aaah i seee. i like the campfire smells better but ok, i have to make some sacrificies for quality fixing i guess
#1592 [16:22] <TheHuntedPie> ok the hole is done... all the soap water is coming out now
#1593 [16:22] <TheHuntedPie> i pick it up with the baster? or u said to put in air first?
#1594 [16:22] <Thoatt> k good.
#1595 [16:22] <TheHuntedPie> im confused
#1596 [16:22] <Thoatt> air first!
#1597 [16:22] <TheHuntedPie> kk...
#1598 [16:22] <Thoatt> but it's ok if you do it in the wrong order
#1599 [16:22] <TheHuntedPie> sorry i forgot
#1600 [16:22] * gAway2002 sits here to try to keep an eye on the bot
#1600 [16:23] <gAway2002> Hopefully it doesn't send everything twice this time
#1601 [16:23] <TheHuntedPie> k im going to get som air from the compressed canister in the grandmas wheelchair...i hope its right amount oxygen
#1602 [16:24] <Thoatt> Should be.
#1603 [16:24] <TheHuntedPie> k
#1604 [16:24] <Thoatt> Make sure grama's not attached to it.. that'd be awkward.
#1605 [16:24] <TheHuntedPie> i putting her on the bed...
#1606 [16:26] <Thoatt> http://i.imgur.com/RIwBA.jpg
#1607 [16:26] <TheHuntedPie> SHIT...its all spilling out :x hope she dont need the air too much
#1608 [16:27] <TheHuntedPie> brb must close it
#1609 [16:27] <Thoatt> You're letting ALL the air out?!
#1610 [16:27] <TheHuntedPie> wiat wait
#1611 [16:27] <TheHuntedPie> i closing
#1612 [16:27] <Thoatt> That's going to cause your download speed to go down :(
#1613 [16:27] <TheHuntedPie> ....shit
#1614 [16:27] <Thoatt> tip it so the hole you drilled it pointing up.
#1615 [16:27] <TheHuntedPie> ok i stopped closing. i get her new air later
#1616 [16:28] <TheHuntedPie> i putting all the air in routernow
#1617 [16:28] <Thoatt> k
#1618 [16:28] <TheHuntedPie> eww water is blowing everywhere in dining room...
#1619 [16:28] <TheHuntedPie> are u sure u know what ur doing....
#1620 [16:29] <TheHuntedPie> i dont think supposed to be this complicated...
#1621 [16:29] <gAway2002> ~quit
#1622 [16:29] <Thoatt> Hey, you wanted to test your router right?
#1623 [16:29] <TheHuntedPie> i trying but its not working now...sorry i just getting lost of patience
#1624 [16:29] <Thoatt> You could ask the guys at Best Buy to do it wor you.
#1625 [16:30] <TheHuntedPie> no no...not them
#1626 [16:30] <TheHuntedPie> anybody but them
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#1628 [16:30] <TheHuntedPie> not the...."GEEK SQUAD"
#1629 [16:30] <Thoatt> Circut City? (HAHA... WE REMEMBER THEN STILL RIGHT GUYS?... guys?)
#1630 [16:30] <Thoatt> THEM*
#1631 [16:30] <didi> hey i'm having problems running minecraft
#1632 [16:31] <Thoatt> didi: What is the issue?
#1633 [16:31] <TheHuntedPie> i bought circuit city's store floor computer including their WIndows XP commerical license key cause they thought I couldnt unlock a XP install without a password
#1634 [16:31] <didi> i d.l the minecraft.exe, and when trying to open it i hear the windows "ding" sound (as if a msg dialog box pops up) but nothing happens
#1635 [16:31] <didi> running xp
#1636 [16:31] <Thoatt> didi: Do you have Java installed?
#1637 [16:31] <didi> LOL
#1638 [16:31] <didi> forgot to do that
#1639 [16:31] <didi> on an old machine
#1640 [16:32] <Thoatt> xD
#1641 [16:32] <TheHuntedPie> java can be downloaded from http://www.java.com/en/download/windows_xpi.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com
#1642 [16:32] <didi> is new mc gonna be able to run independent of it?
#1643 [16:32] <TheHuntedPie> didi dont think so
#1644 [16:32] <didi> thank you :)
#1645 [16:32] <TheHuntedPie> its built on java framework
#1646 [16:32] <Thoatt> It's a java game, so... probably not.
#1647 [16:33] <didi> i thought there'd be a way to "include" it in future versions or soemthing
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#1649 [16:33] <adammincraftjames> omg
#1650 [16:33] <Thoatt> That'd make the download HUGE.
#1651 [16:33] <adammincraftjames> cant connect to a server
#1652 [16:33] <didi> :P
#1653 [16:33] <TheHuntedPie> didi: one of its major selling points is cross platform compatibility and lightweight resource footprint
#1654 [16:33] <Thoatt> compared to what it is now...
#1655 [16:33] <Thoatt> +1
#1656 [16:34] <xales> TheHuntedPie: lightweight resourse footprint? you must be JOKING
#1657 [16:34] <Thoatt> adammincraftjames: Firewall?
#1658 [16:34] <xales> :P
#1659 [16:34] <adammincraftjames> nope
#1660 [16:34] <adammincraftjames> idk
#1661 [16:34] <xales> adammincraftjames: what happens when you try?
#1662 [16:34] <TheHuntedPie> xales: besides for ram ?
#1663 [16:34] <adammincraftjames> timesout
#1664 [16:34] <xales> TheHuntedPie: Everything. Java is a MASSIVE resource hog. lol
#1665 [16:34] <xales> adammincraftjames: try a different server
#1666 [16:34] <didi> tru that
#1667 [16:34] <TheHuntedPie> xales: you think flash is any better?
#1668 [16:34] <adammincraftjames> anyone got a skype whao cab help me
#1669 [16:34] <adammincraftjames> i did
#1670 [16:34] <adammincraftjames> still fail
#1671 [16:34] <xales> adammincraftjames: try 'smp.shadow-craft.net' then
#1672 [16:35] <didi> Thoatt: i still have same problem :(
#1673 [16:35] <xales> if it still times out, then there is a firewall blocking it
#1674 [16:35] <didi> how do i know if java installed successfully
#1675 [16:35] <xales> didi: restart computer after installing Java
#1676 [16:35] <didi> :(
#1677 [16:35] <didi> always hate that
#1678 [16:35] <didi> brb
#1679 [16:35] <Thoatt> didi, do you get any errors or anything?
#1680 [16:35] <Thoatt> *sigh*
#1681 [16:35] <Thoatt> nvm lol
#1682 [16:36] <TheHuntedPie> Thoatt: oh shit....grandma needs air...
#1683 [16:36] <Thoatt> well give it to her then
#1684 [16:36] <TheHuntedPie> i used it up ><
#1685 [16:36] <TheHuntedPie> for my downloads speeds
#1686 [16:36] <Thoatt> Desperate times call for desperate measures... there's some in the router remember?
#1687 [16:37] <Thoatt> What do you want more... download speed, or grama...
#1688 [16:37] <TheHuntedPie> well...let me think
#1689 [16:37] <TheHuntedPie> its hard ...
#1690 [16:37] <TheHuntedPie> um
#1691 [16:37] <TheHuntedPie> brb
#1692 [16:37] <TheHuntedPie> let me ask my mom
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#1694 [16:37] <Thoatt> When the cops show up when you are shoving a router into your grama's mouth, remember, you don't know me.
#1695 [16:38] <Thoatt> LOL... hi mitpatterson_...
#1696 [16:38] <Thoatt> :)
#1697 [16:38] <TheHuntedPie> Thoatt: but u are such a nice man. u helped me with my download speeds i have to tell them about u...
#1698 [16:39] <mitpatterson_> hey
#1699 [16:40] <Thoatt> Then just tell them some strang man on the computer box told you to add oxygen to your router, and now you have to give it to grama... They'll understand.
#1700 [16:40] <Thoatt> strange*
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#1702 [16:40] <blaphmat> are servers down or something
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#1705 [16:42] <didi> hello i'm back
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#1707 [16:42] <xales> does it work now?
#1708 [16:42] <didi> no :(
#1709 [16:42] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#1710 [16:42] <didi> same problem
#1711 [16:42] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#1712 [16:42] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#1713 [16:42] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#1714 [16:42] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#1715 [16:42] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#1716 [16:42] <xales> ._.
#1717 [16:42] <Thoatt> oh jesus
#1718 [16:42] <xales> didi: how much RAM does your computer have?
#1719 [16:43] <didi> 2GB
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#1721 [16:43] <Thoatt> You can test it, but it involves a turkey baster.
#1722 [16:43] <gAway2002> Crap
#1723 [16:43] <gAway2002> It rokke
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#1725 [16:43] <xales> didi: try making a new user account on your computer, and see if you can play it under that
#1726 [16:43] <gAway2002> broke*
#1727 [16:43] <gAway2002> Meh will fix it later
#1728 [16:43] <gAway2002> afk
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#1731 [16:50] <alexandere> hi, how do i get hold of a older version of the client, I'd like to play on a version 1.3 server?
#1732 [16:50] <aetherian> you don't.
#1733 [16:50] <aetherian> it's not legally possible
#1734 [16:51] <alexandere> ok, that's too bad...
#1735 [16:51] <alexandere> thx anyways :)
#1736 [16:51] <oldtopmanserver> alaxandere: If you preferred server won't update, I reccomend finding another
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#1738 [16:55] <alexandere> yeah, that's seems to be best option
#1739 [16:55] <alexandere> any recommendations?
#1740 [16:56] * xales recommends smp.shadow-craft.net
#1740 [16:56] <didi> so what can i do to make minecraft work?
#1741 [16:56] <xales> didi: still doesn't work, under a new user?
#1742 [16:57] <gAway2002> afk
#1743 [16:57] <gAway2002> wups
#1744 [16:57] <aetherian> lol smp.shadow-craft.net
#1745 [16:57] <didi> i didn't get previous messages
#1746 [16:57] <didi> what did u recommend before?
#1747 [16:57] <didi> i installed java, and restarted
#1748 [16:57] <xales> oh
#1749 [16:57] <xales> try making a new user account on your computer
#1750 [16:57] <xales> and playing under that
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#1752 [16:57] <didi> i'll try that :/
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#1755 [16:59] <Dragonbut> Hai
#1756 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1757 [16:59] * TheHuntedPie [TheHuntedPie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1758 [16:59] <Dragonbut> 'lo?
#1759 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Hello
#1760 [17:00] <Dragonbut> Oh nvm XD
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#1762 [17:03] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The 1.4 update and the April Fools joke (Anonymous) - Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:42:26 +0200
#1763 [17:03] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1764 [17:03] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.4_01 (Anonymous) - Tue, 05 Apr 2011 04:28:11 -0400
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#1766 [17:03] <Dragonbut> Go away bot
#1767 [17:03] <g> fixed it!
#1768 [17:03] <g> :D
#1769 [17:04] * g turns off link parser
#1769 [17:04] <g> ~stfu
#1770 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1771 [17:04] <g> I can't parse the mojang blog feed
#1772 [17:04] <g> it doesn't offer a date
#1773 [17:04] <g> I'm off anyway
#1774 [17:04] <g> bai
#1775 [17:04] * GreyVulpine waves
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#1777 [17:05] <didi> hey, still having problems running minecraft
#1778 [17:05] <didi> other account does same problem
#1779 [17:05] <Dragonbut> What's happening?
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#1781 [17:05] <Dragonbut> And what OS?
#1782 [17:05] <didi> ok:
#1783 [17:05] <Dragonbut> :3
#1784 [17:06] <didi> i downloaded minecraft.exe - i'm running XP - when i try running the .exe, i hear the familiar windows "ding" sound (as if a dialog window pops up) but nothing happens. screenmode doesn't try to change or anything
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#1786 [17:06] <zeropositivo> hello there, my minecraft is not recognizing one of my save files, what could that be? (windows 7, mc 1.4_01, save worked fine this afternoon)
#1787 [17:06] <Dragonbut> Hi oldtopman
#1788 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> zeropositivo - Did your computer suddenly shut off?
#1789 [17:06] <oldtopman> Hi dragonbut!
#1790 [17:06] <oldtopman> Whazzup?
#1791 [17:06] <zeropositivo> it did, freeze
#1792 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#1793 [17:07] <zeropositivo> not related to mc tho
#1794 [17:07] <zeropositivo> ah, what could I do?
#1795 [17:07] <lemon-rev> didi have you tryed going through minecraft.net and seeing if you can run the browser version
#1796 [17:07] <zeropositivo> *can
#1797 [17:07] <didi> trying*
#1798 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> If your computer suddenly froze, it can corrupt your minecraft save. To fix this, I would recommend opening it up in a map editor, such as MCedit
#1799 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> then resaving it again
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#1801 [17:07] <zeropositivo> mcedit, will look for that, thanks
#1802 [17:08] <Dragonbut> Didi, could be a process having trouble, I get a window popping up with MC asking if I trusted it. Along with the ding.
#1803 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> It'll be the first google result
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#1805 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> didi - Has it worked before?
#1806 [17:08] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] 1/11/11 (Anonymous) - Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:06:55 +0200
#1807 [17:08] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] 1/11/11 (Anonymous) - Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:06:55 +0200
#1808 [17:08] <didi> i'm trying it on a new computer, haven't tried it on this before
#1809 [17:08] <didi> minecraft is loading in browser version
#1810 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM does that computer currently have?
#1811 [17:08] <zeropositivo> ah, now that I remember, in no way I can run mc via the java or command console, only though the exe
#1812 [17:09] <lemon-rev> didi so the game works or just loads ?
#1813 [17:09] <zeropositivo> which means just fine with the game, but a lot of problems if I want to start a server
#1814 [17:09] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: All of your wubi are orking?
#1815 [17:09] <didi> still starting up, i'll let u know in a sec
#1816 [17:10] <lemon-rev> k
#1817 [17:10] <zeropositivo> basically, if I try to run the java or via command console, I get a "could not find the main class" line of errors
#1818 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Then you're not running the command line in the same directory where you have the minecraft.jar
#1819 [17:11] <zeropositivo> that's what I tought, but not even duoble checking worked
#1820 [17:11] <danl> how do you know which file a chunk is in?
#1821 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> danl - Takes a little bit of base 64 math
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#1823 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> er, base 36 math
#1824 [17:13] <danl> geryvulpine, I am dealing with this error: https://gist.github.com/ae7e4ef9480aad237c44 and wonder if restoring the 9,33 and 8,33 from an older version would fix it
#1825 [17:13] <danl> *greyvulpine
#1826 [17:14] <didi> HEY browser version runs fine
#1827 [17:14] <lemon-rev> ok
#1828 [17:14] <didi> ...well not fine, it's laggy :(
#1829 [17:14] <didi> but yeah
#1830 [17:14] <lemon-rev> didi how much ram you got on your os, and what os are you running
#1831 [17:14] <didi> 2GB
#1832 [17:14] <lemon-rev> and ?
#1833 [17:14] <lemon-rev> os ?
#1834 [17:14] <didi> XP
#1835 [17:15] <lemon-rev> what type of video card have you got ?
#1836 [17:15] <aetherian> heh
#1837 [17:15] <zeropositivo> oh, wow, mcedit is fantastic, thanks for the head up
#1838 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> danl - If you've got a backup somewhere, that would be better.
#1839 [17:15] <aetherian> gary vulpine
#1840 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1841 [17:15] <danl> problem is, it's an older backup and a lot will be lost
#1842 [17:15] <aetherian> ^.^
#1843 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> danl - The problem with finding one file to replace, is that 4 chunks are saved to a file, and it requires quite a bit of math to figure out
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#1845 [17:16] <Dragonbut> Lol, spaced
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#1847 [17:21] <didi> hey sorry comp crashed?
#1848 [17:22] <didi> i lied - i have 1GB ram
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#1850 [17:22] <didi> and i don't know what gfx card i have in there
#1851 [17:22] <chrrust> how do i install texture packages ?
#1852 [17:22] <didi> how can i figure out?
#1853 [17:22] <Thoatt|nap> ??> didi win/dxdiag
#1854 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> didi - that would be why didi
#1855 [17:22] <VoxelHead> didi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1856 [17:22] <VoxelHead> didi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1857 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Thoatt|nap - 1 gig of ram is why the exe won't launch
#1858 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> If you get the minecraft.jar file, and execute it with less RAM, it will launch.
#1859 [17:24] <didi> uggh
#1860 [17:24] <didi> video: radeon 9600
#1861 [17:24] <didi> 128MB
#1862 [17:25] <Dragonbut> Spaced again
#1863 [17:25] <xales> wow
#1864 [17:25] <didi> GreyVulpine: so, with 1GB it'll just not start?
#1865 [17:25] <xales> I'm amazed it works at all, didi
#1866 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Right
#1867 [17:25] <didi> lol
#1868 [17:25] <xales> you won't be able to play not in the browser with that card
#1869 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> No, the video card is fine xales\
#1870 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> It's the amount of RAM
#1871 [17:25] <xales> GreyVulpine: it's an R300
#1872 [17:25] <xales> it will crash with one of the "update your graphics card driver" errors
#1873 [17:25] <lemon-rev> didi you got the game to run in broswer but it took its time, try running the exe again, and yes try updateing your gfx card
#1874 [17:25] <didi> which i didn't get?
#1875 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> didi - The reason is that the .exe tries to reserve a minimum of 512 megs of RAM, and gets up to a gig of RAM.
#1876 [17:26] * JonathanS splashes cold water on thoatts face
#1876 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Which won't launch because you don't have enough RAM free.'
#1877 [17:26] <didi> quick qeustion:
#1878 [17:27] <didi> task manmager says i'm currently using 855MB ram
#1879 [17:27] <didi> i don't think i have enough left to run mc?
#1880 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Yup, you definitely don't have enough RAM free
#1881 [17:27] <Thoatt|nap> gah... what lol
#1882 [17:27] <Thoatt> I couldn't get back to sleep
#1883 [17:28] <didi> this is such an old machine
#1884 [17:28] <didi> so much crap running on it
#1885 [17:29] <JonathanS> finally
#1886 [17:29] <JonathanS> hi thoatt
#1887 [17:29] <didi> what do i do?!
#1888 [17:29] <didi> :(
#1889 [17:29] <JonathanS> u ready to help me?
#1890 [17:29] <didi> i need a new comp
#1891 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> JonathanS - With?
#1892 [17:29] <xales> didi: if you want it to run well, yes
#1893 [17:29] <Thoatt> help you what? If involes a turkey baster, I already helped one person with that today
#1894 [17:30] <JonathanS> mob grinder loot chute
#1895 [17:30] <xales> ??> Shadow386 java/ipv6
#1896 [17:30] <VoxelHead> Shadow386: (java/ipv6) Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#1897 [17:30] <VoxelHead> Shadow386: (java/ipv6) -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#1898 [17:30] <JonathanS> i did it but it could use improvement
#1899 [17:32] <Thoatt> JonathanS: address?
#1900 [17:32] <JonathanS> 108.56.169.55:25565
#1901 [17:32] <JonathanS> if u collect any loot put it in the chests
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#1903 [17:34] <didi> thank you guys for helping
#1904 [17:34] <didi> much appreciated :)
#1905 [17:34] <kinggold171> Anyone online that can help with login errors
#1906 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> What login error
#1907 [17:34] <kinggold171> Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes.
#1908 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you can do then, but wait
#1909 [17:35] <kinggold171> i waited 4hours from snowmans(other minecraft irc) yet still not working
#1910 [17:36] <joshsavage91> Can anyone give me an example of their iConomy's shop prices for items?
#1911 [17:36] <xales> joshsavage91: ask in #iconomy - this channel is not for mod support
#1912 [17:36] <joshsavage91> ty.
#1913 [17:37] <kinggold171> so, is the login server bugged for some players?
#1914 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> No, it's because you tried to login too many times with bad info, the account is currently locked
#1915 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> All you can do right now, is wait
#1916 [17:38] <kinggold171> aka someones tried hacking it, so when i first tried to login its already blocked for exceeding the limit of failed logins
#1917 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> That could be a possibility
#1918 [17:41] <kinggold171> when i first tried logging in today at about 3:48pm GMT it was blocked, i then spoke to snowman on #minecraft and he said to wait a few minutes, then 4 hours later still blocked and then again before joining this chanell
#1919 [17:41] <lemon-rev> has anyone had the trees in minecraft if your in a cold area the tree leafs will be like a crayon greenish type color and not the standed green ?
#1920 [17:42] <xales> lemon-rev: yes, that's normal. It's a biome feature
#1921 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> lemon-rev - Biome specific leaves, yes.
#1922 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Same goes for grass.
#1923 [17:42] <lemon-rev> lol thanks guys lol
#1924 [17:42] <lemon-rev> :)
#1925 [17:42] <lemon-rev> yup
#1926 [17:42] <lemon-rev> noticed that too
#1927 [17:43] <kinggold171> and if the log in says to wait a few minutes, somethings deffo not quite right even after tring housrs between each one
#1928 [17:52] <danl> went back to the backup GreyVulpine, still getting errors in those chunks, not as bad though, https://gist.github.com/ae7e4ef9480aad237c44
#1929 [17:52] <danl> any idea what would cause that?
#1930 [17:53] <kinggold171> who's the member of staff in change of account management?
#1931 [17:53] <zeropositivo> well, thanks for that mcedit advice. Still lost everything in the inventory, but at least the world is back
#1932 [17:55] <xales> kinggold171: support@mojang.com
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#1935 [17:59] <St0RM53> hello. I just found out about this game some days ago, and i've tried it. i found it to be too exciting and i've bought an alpha code from ebay. Though i am not sure 100% if it is an alpha code. Can Notch or someone check my username(St0RM53) to check if it is an alpha code? Thanks
#1936 [18:00] <lemon-rev> !paid St0RM53
#1937 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> There's no way to find out
#1938 [18:00] <JonathanS> you can get back on
#1939 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Not currently
#1940 [18:00] <St0RM53> until the final game gets released?;p
#1941 [18:01] <St0RM53> i can put character skins, is this an alpha account only feature?
#1942 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard, Mojang is looking into making a small web app that can tell you your account status, but that's been a couple months now
#1943 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> No
#1944 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> It's a premium feature, ie paid
#1945 [18:01] <JonathanS> Thoatt?
#1946 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> The only difference between alpha and beta, is beyond the final release, alpha users get expansions for free
#1947 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> while beta doesn't
#1948 [18:01] <St0RM53> ohh thanks...should i email Notch or is he too busy?;p
#1949 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Try emailing daniel@mojang.com
#1950 [18:02] <St0RM53> @greyvulpine yes i allready know that;p
#1951 [18:02] <St0RM53> thanks:)
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#1953 [18:03] <St0RM53> i still haven't got the time to play it so much, but when i find any time it will be nice;p
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#1972 [18:08] <Thoatt> jeebus
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#1978 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Yay network's dying.
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#1987 [18:10] <kinggold171> how long before a reply, from the support team?
#1988 [18:10] <kinggold171> on avarge
#1989 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Can be immediate, can be a week.
#1990 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> It depends on how much load heads their way.
#1991 [18:11] <kinggold171> kk, i've given them evidance of ownership so hopefully they can see all the log-ins both successful and failed, and identify if someone has tried gaining access
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#2009 [18:14] <Jackson413> ello
#2010 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2011 [18:14] <kinggold171> well, it'll be an interesting wait
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#2014 [18:19] <kinggold171> i bet mojang support have hundrads of e-mials about the same thing
#2015 [18:20] <Jackson413> lolwut?
#2016 [18:20] <kinggold171> loads of e-mails about the same problem
#2017 [18:24] <aetherian> wha-
#2018 [18:24] <aetherian> I missed a 'split D:
#2019 [18:24] <kinggold171> even the ssp isnt working or even booting up
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#2021 [18:26] <Jmad109> hi
#2022 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2023 [18:26] <kinggold171> everything minecraft seems to be screwd up at the moment
#2024 [18:27] <Jmad109> guys
#2025 [18:27] <Jmad109> whats ur viewpoint on servercraft
#2026 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> "Bleh"
#2027 [18:29] <Jmad109> ok whats the best hosting ocmpany
#2028 [18:29] <kinggold171> bukkit
#2029 [18:29] <Jmad109> they make mods
#2030 [18:29] <kinggold171> and a beta server
#2031 [18:29] <Jmad109> yes but they don't actually have a hosting service
#2032 [18:30] <xales> Jmad109: I can recommend AllGamer, but this isn't really the best place to ask about them
#2033 [18:30] <xales> Try looking on the forum for reviews
#2034 [18:30] <kinggold171> oh, u mean like a company to make a server 24/7?
#2035 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes kinggold171
#2036 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> And I have heard nothing but poor reviews for servercraft
#2037 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> You really get what you pay for
#2038 [18:30] <kinggold171> lol, im still kinda peeved with the account blocked plus 1/2 asleep
#2039 [18:31] * kinggold171 hopefully fixed by end of tomorrow, gotta do something in 3 weeks holiday
#2039 [18:32] <Jmad109> well i have heard servercraft is the best and I have a guy willing to donate 50 bucks a month
#2040 [18:33] <xales> Jmad109: You probably heard it from an agent of servercraft. As stated, both I and GreyVulpine have heard nothing but bad reviews about them
#2041 [18:33] <Jmad109> well i mean a lot of good servers that I know of are hosted by them....
#2042 [18:33] <Jmad109> i just cant find a decent hosting compnay
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#2044 [18:34] <Dragonbut> Hai
#2045 [18:34] <xales> Jmad109: By "decent" do you mean "unreasonably inexpensive"?
#2046 [18:34] <Jmad109> no
#2047 [18:34] <aetherian> xales: be nice >:
#2048 [18:34] <Jmad109> i mean quality
#2049 [18:34] <xales> Look at AllGamer
#2050 [18:34] <Jmad109> i don't care about money at this point
#2051 [18:34] <xales> they have fantastic reviews
#2052 [18:34] <xales> and are a big part of this community
#2053 [18:35] <Jmad109> i have a line up of donors who will transfer money on my wish
#2054 [18:35] <xales> all the people here with AG_ in there name are AllGamer employees :)
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#2056 [18:35] * xales pokes AG_Scott
#2056 [18:35] <AG_Scott> Beep.
#2057 [18:35] <Dragonbut> AllGamer has good reviews on what? XD
#2058 [18:35] <aetherian> haha
#2059 [18:35] <Dragonbut> Video games I'm guessing :3
#2060 [18:35] <aetherian> hey, if we all poke AG_Scott in different places
#2061 [18:35] <aetherian> we can play a song :D
#2062 [18:35] <Dragonbut> Oh lord
#2063 [18:35] * AG_Scott prepares to cut aetherian
#2063 [18:35] <aetherian> aaahhhhh
#2064 [18:36] * Dragonbut pokes AG_Scott in the eye
#2064 [18:36] <Dragonbut> >:D
#2065 [18:36] <AG_Scott> :<
#2066 [18:36] <aetherian> that only makes a screech
#2067 [18:36] <Dragonbut> Lol
#2068 [18:36] * Dragonbut pokes AG_Scott in the ear
#2068 [18:37] <aetherian> mary had a little lamb...
#2069 [18:38] <Dragonbut> I can make a mushroom! (|=======
#2070 [18:38] <Dragonbut> XD
#2071 [18:39] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: How are you, and did you want any help with the door setup of yours
#2072 [18:41] <Jmad109> 2gb ram from allgamer is 71 dollars
#2073 [18:41] <Jmad109> that is bs
#2074 [18:41] <Jmad109> i cud buy 4 gbs of ram for that much
#2075 [18:42] <aetherian> ...
#2076 [18:42] <Jmad109> thats what I thought
#2077 [18:42] <AG_Scott> http://www.slicehost.com/ is also nice
#2078 [18:42] <Jmad109> you guys just want me to go use allgamer no one actually gives a crap
#2079 [18:42] <AG_Scott> and Amazon EC2
#2080 [18:43] <aetherian> Jmad109: then why don't you buy 4 GB ram
#2081 [18:43] <aetherian> hmm?
#2082 [18:45] <Dragonbut> oldtopman: I'm good, you? And sure :3
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#2084 [18:45] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Did you want some help with the doors?
#2085 [18:45] <Dragonbut> Yeah sure =D
#2086 [18:46] <Dragonbut> Your server? :3
#2087 [18:46] <xales> AG_Scott: :>
#2088 [18:46] <AG_Scott> lol.
#2089 [18:46] <xales> People are funny
#2090 [18:47] <Dragonbut> Oldtopman?
#2091 [18:47] <xales> "I want a huge server with 50 people on it and I want to pay $30 a month for it"
#2092 [18:47] <Dragonbut> Lol
#2093 [18:47] <xales> AG_Scott: get that a lot? :P
#2094 [18:47] <AG_Scott> Yes lol.
#2095 [18:47] <xales> :P
#2096 [18:48] <AG_Scott> They'll go to a company that oversells OpenVZ and then they'll complain about it
#2097 [18:48] <oldtopman> Dragonbut?
#2098 [18:48] <xales> lol OpenVZ
#2099 [18:48] <Dragonbut> What?
#2100 [18:48] <Dragonbut> Yes I do!
#2101 [18:48] <xales> AG_Scott: you should ask Notch to make the server use epoll() :>
#2102 [18:48] <AG_Scott> We've had customers leave and say they found a cheaper host.
#2103 [18:48] <AG_Scott> They're back within a week.
#2104 [18:48] <xales> lol
#2105 [18:48] <Dragonbut> Want me to go on to your server?
#2106 [18:48] <AG_Scott> xales, ikr.
#2107 [18:49] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: I promised you a door lock did I not?
#2108 [18:49] <Dragonbut> Yes
#2109 [18:49] <Dragonbut> Yes oldtopman yes!
#2110 [18:49] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Then I'll help you with yours.
#2111 [18:49] <oldtopman> Come on!
#2112 [18:49] <Dragonbut> On your server or not oldtopman?!?!
#2113 [18:50] <oldtopman> My server
#2114 [18:50] <Dragonbut> Good
#2115 [18:50] <oldtopman> The one with your house
#2116 [18:50] <Dragonbut> Okay
#2117 [18:52] <Dragonbut> What's ip? XD
#2118 [18:52] <Dragonbut> Oldtopman?
#2119 [18:52] <Dragonbut> PM me the ip
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#2123 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> netsplit again?
#2124 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Figures
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#2131 [19:07] <Kealper> you're a bit too good at knowing when those are going to happen lol
#2132 [19:08] * GreyVulpine has a 6th sense for these things.
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#2134 [19:13] <TheHuntedPie> hey guys any great network experts on?
#2135 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> What kind of network help do you neeD?
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#2138 [19:18] <jDodson99> Can someone help me with a redstone double door?
#2139 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help?
#2140 [19:18] <jDodson99> I know what to do but I can't think of any way to do it while also hiding the redstone
#2141 [19:19] <jDodson99> So basically "how do I hide redstone"
#2142 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Well, got a server or something I can hop onto to look at?
#2143 [19:20] <jDodson99> I can set it up, gimme like 30 seconds
#2144 [19:27] <TheHuntedPie> GreyVulpine: no matter what i do i cant get my computer to connect to any server for more than 4 mins without timing out
#2145 [19:29] <TheHuntedPie> GreyVulpine: i tried all the basic first aid tricks and came to the conclusion its got something to do with ISP or router
#2146 [19:29] <TheHuntedPie> GreyVulpine: but i had no problem playing SMP in the alpha
#2147 [19:29] <xales> TheHuntedPie: The game has changed, and send larger packets now
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#2149 [19:29] <xales> just because it worked before, doesn't mean it would work now
#2150 [19:30] <immortalisepic> hello, i need some help
#2151 [19:30] <xales> there might be a fix, but you could also try asking your ISP
#2152 [19:30] <xales> immortalisepic: help with?
#2153 [19:30] <immortalisepic> i frogot my minecraft password
#2154 [19:30] <xales> Then use the "forgot password" feature?
#2155 [19:30] <immortalisepic> where is that>
#2156 [19:30] <immortalisepic> nvm found it
#2157 [19:30] <xales> Right where you login..there is a 'forgot password' link..it's impossible to miss, but whatever
#2158 [19:31] <xales> http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
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#2161 [19:33] <immortalisepic> bigger issue, i frogot the email that i used, i have more then email.
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#2163 [19:33] <xales> Then just put in your username...
#2164 [19:33] <oldtopman> immortalisepic: Then start checking your emails...
#2165 [19:33] <[z]> Frogot :x
#2166 [19:34] <oldtopman> [z] Then show your recipt
#2167 [19:35] <immortalisepic> Crap my uncal bought me the account i hope he didnt use his email
#2168 [19:35] <[z]> no no.. I was just repeating his funny spelling
#2169 [19:35] <aetherian> hey look
#2170 [19:36] <immortalisepic> i have the recipet on my moms computer when i get back from vacation i can show it.
#2171 [19:36] <immortalisepic> unless she can email it to me
#2172 [19:39] <TheHuntedPie> GreyVulpine: u still there?
#2173 [19:39] <TheHuntedPie> anybody else here know networking?
#2174 [19:39] <immortalisepic> i do
#2175 [19:39] <TheHuntedPie> immortalisepic: I have a simple issue. SMP worked in alpha, now in Beta I keep getting TImed out. I traced the problem and connected it to my router or ISP not sure which
#2176 [19:39] <TheHuntedPie> any ideas?
#2177 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Try updating your NIC's drivers, first off.
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#2179 [19:41] <immortalisepic> grey thats Dumb if his nic was messed up he wouldnt be on the chat
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#2181 [19:41] <xales> immortalisepic: Incorrect
#2182 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Easy there.
#2183 [19:41] <TheHuntedPie> immortalisepic: im pretty sure i have the latest driver. double checking
#2184 [19:41] <lee_anderson> any admin on?
#2185 [19:42] <immortalisepic> TheHuntedPie maybe the server is down
#2186 [19:42] <xales> lee_anderson: What do you need help with, specifically?
#2187 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> If the server was down, it wouldn't give a timed out error
#2188 [19:42] <lee_anderson> well i just paid for the account and it still says i have not
#2189 [19:42] <immortalisepic> Or maybe your ports are blocked up
#2190 [19:42] <xales> It might not be immediate
#2191 [19:42] <xales> immortalisepic: try reading what the problem is before spitting out things that aren't the issue
#2192 [19:43] <lee_anderson> how long does it take normally?
#2193 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> It can take a few hours, usually.
#2194 [19:43] <xales> lee_anderson: try waiting about 24 hours, or if you paid via a bank account (E-check), then a week
#2195 [19:43] <xales> if it's still not activated then, send an email to support@mojang.com
#2196 [19:43] <lee_anderson> yea i payed with debit
#2197 [19:43] <xales> it shouldn't take more than a few hours then
#2198 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> payment@mojang
#2199 [19:44] <lee_anderson> ok ty
#2200 [19:44] <xales> GreyVulpine: they go to the same place
#2201 [19:44] * GreyVulpine nods
#2201 [19:46] <TheHuntedPie> immortalisepic: how do i unblock ports?
#2202 [19:46] <immortalisepic> xales i have the recipe here so how i get my account info?
#2203 [19:46] <TheHuntedPie> immortalisepic: i highly doubt its my adapters fault. I tried a wired connection with a differnt computer and got the same error
#2204 [19:46] <xales> TheHuntedPie: that is not the issue, ignore what he said
#2205 [19:47] <xales> immortalisepic: use the forgot password feature. We can't help any more than that. Read the topic
#2206 [19:47] <TheHuntedPie> xales what is the issue then .-.
#2207 [19:48] <TheHuntedPie> why in alpha did i have no problems and now i cant stay connected for more than 5 mins
#2208 [19:48] <xales> TheHuntedPie: probably your ISP, maybe your NIC/NIC drivers, or (unlikely), a software firewall
#2209 [19:48] <xales> and I've already said, the game changed significantly since Alpha
#2210 [19:48] <immortalisepic> i did i dont know the email but i have recipe
#2211 [19:48] <xales> the way the networking works, is very different
#2212 [19:48] <xales> immortalisepic: again, we can't help with that
#2213 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> The alpha map format's changed, the netcode's changed
#2214 [19:49] <TheHuntedPie> xales: how could i adjust my net settings to make my connection work with the new netcode?
#2215 [19:49] <xales> TheHuntedPie: you shouldn't have to. Just try updating the drivers
#2216 [19:49] <xales> if you are running a firewall, try disabling it
#2217 [19:50] <TheHuntedPie> i did, i ran a local connection through my router. maybe ill try without the router and see if i can connect
#2218 [19:50] <xales> TheHuntedPie: also..you have tried other servers, right?
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#2220 [19:52] <TheHuntedPie> xales: tried a bunch of servers with 100ms or better ping
#2221 [19:52] <immortalisepic> i have emailed support@mojang.com with my recipe and problem
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#2225 [19:55] <KentBallz> hey I've got a quick question when I try logging into my server it says it is outdated how do I update the server?
#2226 [19:56] <TheHuntedPie> xales: i cant reach the edimax.com website, maybe thats a poor sign in regard to the quality of the router
#2227 [19:56] <immortalisepic> redownload the server tool
#2228 [19:56] <immortalisepic> bukkit ,or defult
#2229 [19:56] <xales> KentBallz: Just redownload the binary (.exe or .jar)
#2230 [19:58] <KentBallz> xales I'm looking for that but I can't seem to find it now I hate to be a pain but would you happen to have a link?
#2231 [19:58] <xales> !server
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#2238 [20:24] <BoosterEngineer> hey guys I have an interesting question. I'm trying to run minecraft on a computer at our public library, and it doesn't have opengl enabled. I can't enable it either.
#2239 [20:24] <BoosterEngineer> is there a way to disable open gl use in minecraft?
#2240 [20:24] <immortalisepic> hmmh
#2241 [20:24] <xales> Nope
#2242 [20:24] <immortalisepic> i dont think so\
#2243 [20:25] <xales> It's not an issue of "enabled"
#2244 [20:25] <xales> It's that it doesn't support it at all
#2245 [20:26] <immortalisepic> their are ways around that though, install a vm on a flash drive and run minecraft on the vm on the public computer
#2246 [20:26] <immortalisepic> :)
#2247 [20:26] <xales> immortalisepic: except that's still not going to fix the issue of the computer not supporting it, as I just said
#2248 [20:26] <xales> It's a hardware problem, not a software problem
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#2250 [20:26] <immortalisepic> yea true
#2251 [20:27] <immortalisepic> but wouldnt the vm make minecraft think open gl works
#2252 [20:27] <xales> ...
#2253 [20:27] <Phurian> Were do I go for buying the game issues
#2254 [20:27] <xales> if the hardware doesn't support it, then it doesn't work
#2255 [20:27] <xales> Phurian: what exactly is the issue?
#2256 [20:28] <Phurian> Not sure it gets to verifing and says error then gives a number for reference
#2257 [20:28] <xales> Try with PayPal
#2258 [20:28] <xales> (is it a prepaid card?)
#2259 [20:29] <Phurian> No it is not
#2260 [20:29] <Phurian> I will try with paypal
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#2262 [20:30] <jizzit> Can I get some help lol? :/
#2263 [20:31] <xales> With what?
#2264 [20:31] <BoosterEngineer> Thanks for the suggestions guys
#2265 [20:31] <xales> BoosterEngineer: If the computer doesn't support it (if you get that error, it doesn't) then there's no way to make it work, unfortunately
#2266 [20:31] <jizzit> When I try to play minecraft it pops up "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated"
#2267 [20:31] <xales> Update your video card driver
#2268 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> jizzit - Either you need to update your video drivers, or your computer's not up to snuff
#2269 [20:32] <BoosterEngineer> thats the same Issue I'm having
#2270 [20:32] <jizzit> o just go download a bunch of crap?
#2271 [20:32] <jizzit> so*
#2272 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> No, just video drivers
#2273 [20:32] <jizzit> aight, thanks bro
#2274 [20:33] <BoosterEngineer> the reason I asked about disabling open GL is I know the OSX launcher comes fith opengl disabled, and you have to edit a prefference file to enable it
#2275 [20:33] <immortalisepic> time to go hack a forum G2g
#2276 [20:33] <xales> BoosterEngineer: It's not actually "disabled" but a certain accelerated mode is
#2277 [20:33] * xales kicked immortalisepic from #minecrafthelp (Reason: You're cool now)
#2278 [20:33] <BoosterEngineer> oic
#2279 [20:33] <Coll> hack
#2280 [20:34] <xales> ^ lol
#2281 [20:34] <Coll> hmm
#2282 [20:34] <Coll> time
#2283 [20:34] <Coll> G2g
#2284 [20:34] <Coll> forum
#2285 [20:34] <Coll> >.>;
#2286 [20:34] <Kealper> s/hack/use someone else's premade scripts/
#2287 [20:35] <xales> Kealper: Fun fact: the word 'hack' doesn't even mean that
#2288 [20:35] <xales> The media calls it 'hacking' but that is actually incorrect
#2289 [20:35] <Coll> time to go hack a forum G2g
#2290 [20:35] <Coll> wtf
#2291 [20:35] <Kealper> i was not defining hack, i was replacing it with what he was actually doing
#2292 [20:35] <Coll> oh wait
#2293 [20:35] <xales> Kealper: ok, good :)
#2294 [20:35] <Coll> it wasnt done by voxel
#2295 [20:35] <Coll> nevermind
#2296 [20:36] <Kealper> to hack something is just to modify it outside of the orignal intent of said thing :/
#2297 [20:36] <xales> Not really
#2298 [20:36] <xales> 1. n. Originally, a quick job that produces what is needed, but not well.
#2299 [20:37] <xales> 2. n. An incredibly good, and perhaps very time-consuming, piece of work that produces exactly what is needed.
#2300 [20:37] <xales> 3. vt. To bear emotionally or physically. “I can't hack this heat!”
#2301 [20:37] <xales> 4. vt. To work on something (typically a program). In an immediate sense: “What are you doing?” “I'm hacking TECO.” In a general (time-extended) sense: “What do you do around here?” “I hack TECO.” More generally, “I hack foo” is roughly equivalent to “foo is my major interest (or project)”. “I hack solid-state physics.” See Hacking X for Y.
#2302 [20:37] <Kealper> that's how i've always thought of it...like if i ghettorigged my mouse's optical sensor to display what it's capturing, i'd consider that a hack
#2303 [20:37] <xales> 5. vt. To pull a prank on. See sense 2 and hacker (sense 5).
#2304 [20:37] <Phurian> That worked thank xales
#2305 [20:37] <Kealper> meh
#2306 [20:37] <Kealper> i'll still continue to use it in the sense i see it as >>>
#2307 [20:37] <Kealper> >.>*
#2308 [20:38] <xales> It fits your definition, loosely :P
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#2310 [20:38] <xales> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1392
#2311 [20:38] <xales> :D
#2312 [20:38] <xales> look for "cracker" and "hacker" in that
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#2316 [20:46] <Kouken> !seen Notch
#2317 [20:46] <GreyBot> I last saw Notch (~Essential@pool-108-56-169-55.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 1day 7hrs 14mins 56secs ago, being kicked from #minecrafthelp by Kealper, who stated: Notch
#2318 [20:47] <TheHuntedPie> xales: im just gonna try to install DD-WRT and buy a new router if that dont work
#2319 [20:47] <Kouken> !seen Notch
#2320 [20:47] <GreyBot> I last saw Notch (~Essential@pool-108-56-169-55.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 1day 7hrs 15mins 12secs ago, being kicked from #minecrafthelp by Kealper, who stated: Notch
#2321 [20:47] <xales> TheHuntedPie: okay. good luck!
#2322 [20:47] <Kouken> You are hiding something!
#2323 [20:47] <TheHuntedPie> xales: does it make sense its the routers fault?
#2324 [20:47] <Kealper> wrong Notch
#2325 [20:47] <Kouken> There is somethign you aren't telling me GreyBot!
#2326 [20:47] <Kealper> it was a name stealer
#2327 [20:47] <xales> TheHuntedPie: It's possible, for sure
#2328 [20:49] <TheHuntedPie> btw I just got a root canal on Tuesday and it didnt hurt a bit... I wonder what all the big fuss about root canals has always been.
#2329 [20:50] <TheHuntedPie> life must have been a bitch before local anesthetic
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#2331 [20:54] <Espeon> !seen kappische
#2332 [20:54] <GreyBot> I last saw kappische (~wjateve@81-232-107-69-no15.business.telia.com) 1day 13hrs 31mins 23secs ago, parting from #, stating:
#2333 [20:55] <Espeon> Uh
#2334 [20:55] <Espeon> Interesting.
#2335 [20:55] <Espeon> Error on line 6780
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#2337 [20:55] <xales> O RLY
#2338 [20:55] <scot> Hi, can I get help getting minecraft to run on linux?
#2339 [20:57] <Kealper> error say what?
#2340 [20:57] <xales> scot: What exactly is the problem?
#2341 [20:57] <Kealper> aubot? meh...i'll fix it later
#2342 [20:57] <xales> Kealper: the #secretchannel replacement thing
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#2344 [20:59] <scot> xales, well I try running the Jar file with java and says "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame" plus some other stuff
#2345 [20:59] <aetherian> #secretchannel (the actual channel, not the one it's referring to) is awesome
#2346 [20:59] <scot> I have sun java installed
#2347 [21:00] <xales> scot: you are not launching it correctly then
#2348 [21:00] <xales> the command is 'java -jar minecraft.jar'
#2349 [21:00] <scot> excellent, how should I launch it?
#2350 [21:00] <scot> ok I'll try that
#2351 [21:01] <scot> hmm, that worked...the mincraft website had a different recommended command line
#2352 [21:02] <scot> anyway, thanks much....I never use java
#2353 [21:02] <scot> at least not in the foreground, obviously I use it in the background
#2354 [21:02] <scot> thanks again
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#2359 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> http://www.worth1000.com/contests/26891/epic-architecture
#2360 [21:21] <ferdinand> Can anyone help me.... minecraft won't work and I have looked everywhere for answers.... I try to load it in the browser and it won't load. It goes white then blank
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#2362 [21:22] <ferdinand> Can anyone help me?
#2363 [21:23] <TheHuntedPie> ferdinand: do you have java installed?
#2364 [21:23] <ferdinand> yes I uninstalled and reinstalled it and nothing
#2365 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Can you pull up the java console, and pastebin.com it all?
#2366 [21:24] <ferdinand> I don't know how to do that.
#2367 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> What browser did you use?
#2368 [21:25] <ferdinand> Firefox
#2369 [21:25] <ferdinand> It use to work before then it just stopped
#2370 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> What operating system?
#2371 [21:25] <ferdinand> Window vista home editioin
#2372 [21:25] <ferdinand> edition
#2373 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> When you launch the game in the browser, do you see an icon for java in the lower right corner, near your clock?
#2374 [21:26] <ferdinand> yes
#2375 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Can you right click on it, there should be an option there to open the console
#2376 [21:27] <ferdinand> Then it will disappear once the screen goes black.... yeah if I am quick enough
#2377 [21:29] <ferdinand> Ok I got it what do I do now?
#2378 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> The console disappears?
#2379 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you any text when the game loads?
#2380 [21:30] <ferdinand> yeah it will
#2381 [21:30] <ferdinand> no none at all
#2382 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> None at all?
#2383 [21:30] <ferdinand> nope
#2384 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me a dxdiag?
#2385 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#2386 [21:30] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2387 [21:30] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#2390 [21:31] <ferdinand> ok I will try
#2391 [21:35] <ferdinand> I hope this is right............... http://pastebin.com/BmrKu2Aw
#2392 [21:38] <ferdinand> did you get it?
#2393 [21:38] <lemon-rev> well its there in pastebin
#2394 [21:38] <lemon-rev> win 7
#2395 [21:39] <lemon-rev> is that ram useage when your running w7 or just as it is with out minecraft
#2396 [21:39] <lemon-rev> ?
#2397 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> I'd look into updating your ATI video card's drivers
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#2399 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> eliminate that as a possibility, since those drivers are from '07
#2400 [21:40] <ferdinand> How do I do that?
#2401 [21:40] <lemon-rev> also greyvulpine those audio are back from 07 as well but maybe not nessaery if working ok
#2402 [21:41] <ferdinand> Well I know if I play like facebook games it's starting to get really slow.
#2403 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#2404 [21:42] <ferdinand> It's getting worse as the days go and it's been about 2 weeks now since minecraft quit working... and lemon-rev I have no idea about the ram useage at all
#2405 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Use the "Catalyst Software Suite" download
#2406 [21:42] <lemon-rev> ok
#2407 [21:44] <ferdinand> ok I have catalyst but I don't know if it's the newest.... but will my pc hold it all?
#2408 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> It should
#2409 [21:48] <ferdinand> k downloading it now. I hope this works....lol
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#2412 [21:50] <TerrraNova> i neeed some help
#2413 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2414 [21:50] <TerrraNova> so
#2415 [21:50] <TerrraNova> this server
#2416 [21:50] <TerrraNova> s
#2417 [21:50] <TerrraNova> online
#2418 [21:50] <TerrraNova> and
#2419 [21:50] <TerrraNova> i get an error
#2420 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#2421 [21:50] <TerrraNova> it says Failed to connect to the server
#2422 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Then the server's not up
#2423 [21:50] <TerrraNova> Connection refused:connect
#2424 [21:51] <TerrraNova> it is
#2425 [21:51] <TerrraNova> itho
#2426 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Is this your server?
#2427 [21:51] <TerrraNova> becuz in the irc chat
#2428 [21:51] <TerrraNova> no its not
#2429 [21:51] <TerrraNova> in the irc chat it has the [g] and there useing the mc char
#2430 [21:51] <TerrraNova> chat*
#2431 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> With "Conection refused:connect".. as the error, it means the server's either down, or not responding to you.
#2432 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if anybody else is actually in the server?
#2433 [21:52] <TerrraNova> how could i get it to respond to me?
#2434 [21:52] <TerrraNova> yes
#2435 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> What is the server's ip?
#2436 [21:52] <TerrraNova> Lomz.dyndns.org
#2437 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, server's whitelisted
#2438 [21:53] <TerrraNova> yes
#2439 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> !check Lomz.dyndns.org
#2440 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, server's up then. You'll need to talk to whoever's running the server, make sure you're not banned/blocked
#2441 [21:54] <TerrraNova> Okay i dont think he would ban/ block me
#2442 [21:54] <TerrraNova> :)
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#2444 [21:58] <Dragonbut> Hai
#2445 [21:58] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Hai!
#2446 [21:59] <TerrraNova> herro
#2447 [21:59] <oldtopman> Whatcha need help with?
#2448 [21:59] <Dragonbut> Nothin' :3
#2449 [21:59] <Dragonbut> This channel seems like it has the friendliest people though :D
#2450 [22:00] <TerrraNova> so greyvulpine he says its a bug
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#2453 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> We try to be Dragonbut, the amount of time people volunteer to help others is to see
#2454 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> asounding to see*
#2455 [22:02] <Dragonbut> =D
#2456 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> er, astounding
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#2458 [22:03] * Dragonbut is hungry
#2458 [22:10] <ferdinand> GreyVulpine- some of the applications failed to install.... is that o.k.?
#2459 [22:14] <ferdinand> It brought up the mojang sign then something else then quickly went blank.... why isn't this working?
#2460 [22:17] <aetherian> because it's that stubborn...?
#2461 [22:18] <ferdinand> lol but I want it to work so bad
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#2464 [22:28] <ferdinand> If the some applications fail should I reinstall it?
#2465 [22:30] <Kealper> ferdinand: what was your issue? blackscreen?
#2466 [22:31] <ferdinand> well blank... it wouldn't show up anything after a bit
#2467 [22:31] <ferdinand> I downloaded Catalyst and now it will bring up the mojang sign then go blank
#2468 [22:32] <Kealper> what are you computer's specs?
#2469 [22:33] <ferdinand> umm idk..lol windows vista home edition 32 bit... that's about all I know. I did a paste bin if you want to look at it
#2470 [22:33] <ferdinand> minecraft use to work
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#2473 [22:37] <TerraNovas> :o
#2474 [22:37] <TerraNovas> :P
#2475 [22:37] <TerraNovas> :|
#2476 [22:37] <TerraNovas> :)
#2477 [22:37] <TerraNovas> :(
#2478 [22:37] <TerraNovas> :D
#2479 [22:37] <TerraNovas> ?
#2480 [22:38] <Kealper> O.o
#2481 [22:38] <Kealper> whoops.... sorry ferdinand, i forgot about you
#2482 [22:38] <ferdinand> lol its ok
#2483 [22:39] * Kealper looks for said pastebin
#2483 [22:40] <Kealper> hmm...an X1250....
#2484 [22:40] <ferdinand> did you find the pastebin?
#2485 [22:40] <TerraNovas> oh yeaaa
#2486 [22:41] <TerraNovas> ima video tonight
#2487 [22:41] <Kealper> TerraNovas: is there anything you needed help with or are you just in here to speak nonsense?
#2488 [22:42] <TerraNovas> o wow whrongchat
#2489 [22:42] <TerraNovas> sorry
#2490 [22:42] <Kealper> >.>
#2491 [22:42] <TerraNovas> i feel like a retared
#2492 [22:42] <Kealper> lol
#2493 [22:42] <ferdinand> So should I reinstall it?
#2494 [22:44] <Kealper> ferdinand: was just looking at the specs of that graphics chipset your computer has...it's a bit slow but it should be able to play it....are you trying to play it from the browser or from the downloaded client?
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#2496 [22:44] <ferdinand> browser.... It use to work then one day it just stopped
#2497 [22:44] <Kealper> did it stop randomly or after a specific update?
#2498 [22:45] <ferdinand> Just randomly
#2499 [22:45] <Kealper> strange....have you tried making a new windows user profile and tesing it out on that? it might be something messed up with your profile
#2500 [22:46] <ferdinand> no I haven't would I have to rebuy it though?
#2501 [22:46] <Kealper> no, this is different, this is your computer account not your game account
#2502 [22:47] <Kealper> go to start menu > control panel > user accounts > create new account
#2503 [22:47] <ferdinand> Oh yes that.... yes I did and it won't work on that one either
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#2505 [22:48] <Kealper> hmm...have you tried reinstalling the game? (deleting the bin folder)
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#2507 [22:49] <ferdinand> I don't have it downloaded on the computer.... It wouldn't let me and I tried sooooo many times
#2508 [22:49] <peeves> i am having bad video drivers problems
#2509 [22:49] <Kealper> uhh, didn'd you say minecraft worked a while ago though? lol
#2510 [22:50] <Kealper> peeves: what sorts of problems?
#2511 [22:50] <Kealper> didn't* bleh
#2512 [22:50] <peeves> the game comes up with bad video drivers page
#2513 [22:50] <ferdinand> lol but I only play it in the browser
#2514 [22:50] <Kealper> peeves: has the game ever worked before?
#2515 [22:50] <peeves> no
#2516 [22:50] <Kealper> ferdinand: it still downloads the same files
#2517 [22:51] <Kealper> peeves: is your computer old?
#2518 [22:51] <peeves> no
#2519 [22:51] <ferdinand> And now I can get the single player to work but not the in browser....lol
#2520 [22:51] <Kealper> ferdinand: wait, so it's working for the downloaded one but not in the browser now? O.o
#2521 [22:51] <Kealper> peeves: about how old would you say your computer is? and is it one of those little tiny laptops?
#2522 [22:52] <peeves> desktop 2 years
#2523 [22:52] <Kealper> peeves: do you know what kind of graphics card it has in it?
#2524 [22:52] <peeves> and it is a gaming rig
#2525 [22:52] <peeves> nivada
#2526 [22:53] <Kealper> peeves: go to http://nvidia.com and download the latest drivers for your card model from there
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#2528 [22:55] <mib_prwc7a> sorry kealper it crashed on me
#2529 [22:56] <Kealper> ferdinand? lol
#2530 [22:56] <peeves> download
#2531 [22:56] <mib_prwc7a> ok like I was saying the single player is working now but the in browser won't work
#2532 [22:56] <Kealper> <@Kealper> ferdinand: wait, so it's working for the downloaded one but not in the browser now? O.o
#2533 [22:56] <peeves> *downloading
#2534 [22:57] <mib_prwc7a> no not downloaded one.... didn't download it at all. Couldn't get it to work on the pc
#2535 [22:57] <Kealper> peeves: ok, when it gets done downloading, just run the installer...it will probably ask you to restart once it gets done installing, and after that it should work (hopefully)
#2536 [22:57] <mib_prwc7a> not ferdinand now... it's mib_prwc7a
#2537 [22:57] <Kealper> mib_prwc7a: you can type /nick ferdinand
#2538 [22:58] <mib_prwc7a> I just took what they gave me lol
#2539 [22:58] <Kealper> anyways... mib_prwc7a: what about it didn't work with the downloaded one?
#2540 [22:58] <Kealper> and wait, it gave you the name ferdinand?
#2541 [22:59] <mib_prwc7a> everytime I clicked on minecraft nothing came up. And I deleted, and redownloaded it more than 10 times. I don't know why it wouldn't work
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#2543 [22:59] <mib_prwc7a> lol yeah it did give me that name
#2544 [22:59] <Kealper> mib_prwc7a: hmm..sounds like something is not right with your java install then...do you know how to open command prompt?
#2545 [23:00] <Kealper> bleh....i hate mibbit even more then
#2546 [23:00] <Kealper> giving out random real-sounding names just makes stuff very confuesing for everyone ._.
#2547 [23:00] <mib_prwc7a> nope...lol I uninstalled java 3 times and reinstalled it
#2548 [23:00] <mib_prwc7a> lol yeah it does
#2549 [23:01] <Kealper> hmmm....
#2550 [23:01] <Kealper> well, go to the start menu search thingy, and type %appdata%\.minecraft
#2551 [23:01] <Kealper> press enter
#2552 [23:01] <mib_prwc7a> I have tried a lot of things trying to get it to work. Looked up every possible solution and so far nothing.
#2553 [23:02] <mib_prwc7a> ok
#2554 [23:02] <Kealper> it should have opened a folder
#2555 [23:02] <Kealper> did it?
#2556 [23:03] <mib_prwc7a> yeah
#2557 [23:03] <Kealper> ok, do you see a folder called bin in there?
#2558 [23:03] <mib_prwc7a> yes
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#2560 [23:03] <Kealper> delete that
#2561 [23:03] <mib_prwc7a> ok
#2562 [23:03] <Kealper> then try to play again
#2563 [23:03] <mib_prwc7a> ok
#2564 [23:03] <Kealper> it should redownload everything
#2565 [23:05] <mib_prwc7a> yeah it redownloaded but still got the same thing... as soon as the mojang sign disappears it shows nothing but the dirt background
#2566 [23:06] <Kealper> woh, so it is loading partially?
#2567 [23:06] <mib_prwc7a> no just the background of the main screen
#2568 [23:06] <Kealper> well, that's technically loading....it's just not loading much...lol
#2569 [23:06] <mib_prwc7a> sorry not dirt background.... looks like stone
#2570 [23:06] <mib_prwc7a> grey
#2571 [23:07] <mib_prwc7a> lol
#2572 [23:07] <Kealper> O.o
#2573 [23:07] <Kealper> could you screenshot it?
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#2575 [23:07] <mib_prwc7a> not techno smart.... what does that mean?
#2576 [23:08] <Kealper> see a button on your keyboard called Prn Scn or something similar?
#2577 [23:08] <mib_prwc7a> prtscn? I have that one
#2578 [23:09] <Kealper> ok, just press that
#2579 [23:09] <Kealper> nothing will look like it happened
#2580 [23:09] <mib_prwc7a> ok
#2581 [23:09] <Kealper> pressed it?
#2582 [23:09] <Kealper> well, while the grey stone screen was up
#2583 [23:09] <mib_prwc7a> not yet.... hold on have to get to the screen again...lol
#2584 [23:09] <Kealper> just say when you pressed it
#2585 [23:09] <mib_prwc7a> ok I pressed it
#2586 [23:10] <Kealper> ok now, open up Paint
#2587 [23:10] <mib_prwc7a> ok
#2588 [23:10] <Kealper> hold your ctrl button and press v
#2589 [23:10] <Kealper> that should make your screen appear in paint at the time you pressed printscreen
#2590 [23:10] <mib_prwc7a> k got it
#2591 [23:10] <mib_prwc7a> yes
#2592 [23:10] <Kealper> now just save that image and then go to http://imgur.com and upload it
#2593 [23:11] <mib_prwc7a> kk
#2594 [23:11] <Kealper> when it's uploaded, put the image in here
#2595 [23:11] <Kealper> well
#2596 [23:11] <Kealper> the url to the image lol
#2597 [23:11] <mib_prwc7a> lol ok
#2598 [23:13] <mib_prwc7a> omg I can't find it
#2599 [23:13] <Kealper> it will be in "My Pictures"
#2600 [23:14] <mib_prwc7a> lol ok
#2601 [23:15] <mib_prwc7a> http://imgur.com/cWJLy
#2602 [23:15] <mib_prwc7a> I hope I did it right
#2603 [23:16] <Kealper> oh my
#2604 [23:16] <Kealper> hava does not appear to be working right
#2605 [23:16] <mib_prwc7a> yeah that is all I get
#2606 [23:16] <Kealper> java*
#2607 [23:16] <crawn> java..?
#2608 [23:16] <crawn> has it started up?
#2609 [23:16] <crawn> like in process list?
#2610 [23:16] <Kealper> are you sure everything is uninstalled and reinstalled correctly?
#2611 [23:16] <mib_prwc7a> What can I do? It works if I click on the free single player
#2612 [23:16] <mib_prwc7a> I don't know
#2613 [23:17] <Kealper> O.o
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#2615 [23:17] <mib_prwc7a> crawn it starts up and shows the mojang page and then does the blank thing
#2616 [23:18] <Kealper> i'm kinda wondering if your computer can even play minecraft beta :/
#2617 [23:18] <Kealper> well
#2618 [23:18] <mib_prwc7a> I uninstalled Java from the uninstall programs page so I think I did
#2619 [23:18] <Kealper> it worked before right?
#2620 [23:18] <Kealper> did you go back to java.com and reinstall it? lol
#2621 [23:19] <mib_prwc7a> Yeah It did... even in the beta
#2622 [23:19] <mib_prwc7a> yeah I did go back to java and reinstall..... 3 times...lol
#2623 [23:19] <Kealper> go to the start menu search thingy
#2624 [23:19] <Kealper> type cmd
#2625 [23:19] <Kealper> press enter
#2626 [23:19] <mib_prwc7a> kk
#2627 [23:20] <Kealper> got a black window with text open?
#2628 [23:20] <mib_prwc7a> yeah
#2629 [23:20] <Kealper> type java -version
#2630 [23:20] <Kealper> press enter
#2631 [23:20] <Kealper> does it say it can't find "java" or does it spt back a version?
#2632 [23:20] <Kealper> spit*
#2633 [23:20] <mib_prwc7a> not recognized
#2634 [23:21] <mib_prwc7a> as an internal or external command
#2635 [23:21] <Kealper> hmm...java doesn't appear to be installed correctly then :/
#2636 [23:21] <Kealper> ever heard of teamviewer? lol
#2637 [23:21] <mib_prwc7a> no not at all
#2638 [23:22] <Kealper> oh, it's a program that would let me control your mouse and keyboard remotely, if you wanted, i could try and see if i could get everything in working order myself using that
#2639 [23:23] <mib_prwc7a> Doubt if it would work.... had our phone company try logmein and it wouldn't let them in the computer at all
#2640 [23:23] <oldtopman> mib_prwc7a run the command "java -v" please
#2641 [23:23] <mib_prwc7a> kk
#2642 [23:23] <Kealper> oldtopman: java isn't recognised
#2643 [23:23] <Kealper> it will tell him the same thing
#2644 [23:23] <mib_prwc7a> said the same thing
#2645 [23:23] <mib_prwc7a> her
#2646 [23:23] * GreyVulpine coughs, environment variables.
#2646 [23:24] <oldtopman> nvm then
#2647 [23:24] <oldtopman> Reinstall java?
#2648 [23:24] <mib_prwc7a> did that 3 times
#2649 [23:24] <Kealper> well, mib_prwc7a did you want to give teamviewer a shot?
#2650 [23:25] <mib_prwc7a> well I guess I can
#2651 [23:25] <mib_prwc7a> guess this is where a lot of trust comes in huh....lol
#2652 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> I can vouch for Kealper.
#2653 [23:26] <Kealper> meh, anyone who you can see at the top of the user list can be trusted
#2654 [23:26] <mib_prwc7a> lol ok and I know you as well...lmgo.....lol
#2655 [23:26] <mib_prwc7a> ok
#2656 [23:26] * oldtopman vouches for Kealper. His jokes are pretty bad though
#2656 [23:26] <Kealper> let's take this to private chat, it wouldn't be good for someone random to get it :/
#2657 [23:26] <mib_prwc7a> let's go then
#2658 [23:26] <mib_prwc7a> lmgo
#2659 [23:26] <mib_prwc7a> that's a good one
#2660 [23:26] <mib_prwc7a> ok
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#2664 [23:51] <Kealper> one more happy customer served lol
#2665 [23:52] <Kealper> to anyone who cares: if minecraft buffer overflows from trying to use a larger than default texture pack without being modded....
#2666 [23:52] <Kealper> java itself will actually crash, so it will not show anything after it overflows
#2667 [23:53] <Kealper> fix: just delete the entire texture packs folder
#2668 [23:56] <lemon-rev> fix dont use texture packs lol
#2669 [23:56] <Kealper> that's more a preventive measure than a fix lol
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#2671 [23:57] <lemon-rev> hahahahhaha
#2672 [23:57] <lemon-rev> it works :P
#2673 [23:58] <aetherian> Kealper: I know a better fix
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#2675 [23:58] <aetherian> change it to just use the normal pack, lemme see...
#2676 [23:58] <aetherian> ~/.minecraft
#2677 [23:58] <Kealper[Mib]> easier to just delete all texture packs they have installed, it will then default to the stock one
#2678 [23:59] <aetherian> file: options.txt
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#2680 [23:59] <aetherian> then you can save the pack folder
#2681 [23:59] <aetherian> psst
#2682 [23:59] <aetherian> I think it's time for another round of compare fps
#2683 [23:59] <Kealper[Mib]> most of the time, if it's buffer overflowing the client....they don't want that pack anymore anyways lol
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#2685 [23:59] <Kealper[Mib]> and bleh....every time i type here it hilights me