#1 [00:00] <aetherian> wait - mib?
#2 [00:00] <Kealper[Mib]> lol
#3 [00:00] <aetherian> y u gotta use mibbit
#4 [00:00] <Kealper[Mib]> was seeing how the latest mibbit shows stuff
#5 [00:00] <aetherian> D:
#6 [00:01] <Kealper[Mib]> chan ops are a star.....that way i can just say next time if they don't know if me or someone else like grey/xales/dope can be trusted over teamviewer....that they are trustworthy if they have a star next to their name
#7 [00:01] <Kealper[Mib]> this client is so bad...lol
#8 [00:02] <aetherian> I wish my client showed the +, @, etc
#9 [00:02] <Kealper> irssi ftw
#10 [00:02] <aetherian> but no, instead, I get stupid colours
#11 [00:02] <aetherian> well
#12 [00:02] <aetherian> not in the actual chat area
#13 [00:02] <aetherian> I use irssi when I want/need to be using a terminal
#14 [00:03] <Kealper> /nicklist screen = instant userlist to the right side, complete with @ and + :P
#15 [00:03] <aetherian> I use telnet when I'm confined to the terminal and don't have irssi installed (ie just installed new OS, and download heaps bunches of things)
#16 [00:03] <aetherian> *downloading
#17 [00:04] <aetherian> telnet into irc ftl
#18 [00:04] <Kealper> lol
#19 [00:04] <oldtopman> you can telnet into irc?
#20 [00:04] <aetherian> PONG :apocalypse.esper.net
#21 [00:04] <Kealper> yeah
#22 [00:04] <aetherian> :D
#23 [00:04] <aetherian> and yes
#24 [00:04] <Kealper> send the raw packets
#25 [00:04] <aetherian> telnet irc.esper.net 6667
#26 [00:04] <aetherian> :D
#27 [00:05] <aetherian> ponging is annoying >:\
#28 [00:06] <Kealper> just keep talking then? lol
#29 [00:06] <aetherian> oh
#30 [00:06] <aetherian> right
#31 [00:06] <aetherian> well, a bit odd to talk when nobody is talking
#32 [00:07] <aetherian> (I guess I'm a bit odd...?)
#33 [00:07] <Kealper> lol
#34 [00:07] * oldtopman talks
#34 [00:07] * aetherian doesn't talk
#34 [00:07] <aetherian> my chair is broken
#35 [00:07] <aetherian> ugh
#36 [00:07] <aetherian> my hand's cold
#37 [00:08] <oldtopman> aetyerian: My hand is never cold (or idle) when I use the internet :P
#38 [00:08] <aetherian> nice double entendre o.o
#39 [00:08] <Kealper> aha..aha...aha....
#40 [00:08] <Kealper> lol
#41 [00:09] <aetherian> aaaanyway
#42 [00:09] <aetherian> my window was open
#43 [00:09] <aetherian> and it's pretty chilly out
#44 [00:09] <oldtopman> ...
#45 [00:10] <aetherian> heh
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#47 [00:14] <Kealper> LOL
#48 [00:14] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ROb2loBrgc
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#50 [00:16] <aetherian> I've seen deadmau5 somewhere...
#51 [00:16] <aetherian> I recognize the name
#52 [00:16] <Kealper> >.>
#53 [00:16] <aetherian> :p
#54 [00:16] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#54 [00:17] <aetherian> what's up with /quit Network ban
#55 [00:17] <aetherian> or is it real?
#56 [00:17] * aetherian doubts that
#56 [00:17] <Kealper> it's real
#57 [00:17] <aetherian> or
#58 [00:17] <aetherian> it's a conspiracy
#59 [00:17] <Kealper> an oper must be klineing them
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#63 [00:19] <Kealper> remind me to remove that eventually
#64 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Don't bother
#65 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Kramer's got it covered
#66 [00:20] <Kealper> oh, is he going to ban that range?
#67 [00:20] <oldtopman> Kealper: Unabn *!*@166.137*
#68 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> <Kramer> Just wildcarded it now.
#69 [00:20] <Kealper> ahh
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#74 [00:31] <Rulerofwax> Hey - anyone know how I can get in contact with customer support, and actually talk to someone?
#75 [00:32] <Kealper> what sort of support did you need?
#76 [00:32] <Kealper> tech support? you came to the right place, account support? support@mojang.com
#77 [00:32] <Rulerofwax> Not tech
#78 [00:32] <Rulerofwax> account
#79 [00:32] <Kealper> yeah, then account@mojang.com
#80 [00:33] <Rulerofwax> Basically: I logged in today on the website (after my password stopped working - so I changed it) and noticed two of my Alpha codes were used and they shouldnt
#81 [00:33] <Kealper> although it is super early in the morning where Mojang is, so you might not get a response for a few hours
#82 [00:33] <Kealper> O.o
#83 [00:33] <Rulerofwax> Is that email actually responded to?
#84 [00:33] <Kealper> yes, it is
#85 [00:33] <Rulerofwax> ok, Ill try that then
#86 [00:35] <Rulerofwax> I remember thinking the day I bought the codes: There needs to be a way to allow a code to be used, and not allow others at the time,
#87 [00:35] <Kealper> hmm?
#88 [00:36] <Rulerofwax> As in: A way to activate a code, so that it can be used - account side, not just when its used, its used
#89 [00:36] <Kealper> oh
#90 [00:37] <Kealper> well....from the sounds of it...someone got in to your account and used them for themselves, unless you were the one that gave the codes to other people....
#91 [00:37] <Kealper> because codes don't just expire or get marked used like that :/
#92 [00:37] <Rulerofwax> No, they have accounts linked to them
#93 [00:38] <Rulerofwax> they were used
#94 [00:38] <Rulerofwax> I guess someone got on, but I have no idea who
#95 [00:38] <Kealper> :/
#96 [00:38] <Kealper> definately something that'll need sorting out from the support email i gave then :/
#97 [00:39] <Rulerofwax> ok, thanks
#98 [00:40] <Rulerofwax> hmm, you don't suppose, if I gave you their names, that you would be able to do something, like just notice when they come in - or if you see them in some server, to make a note of it?
#99 [00:41] <Kealper> i couldn't really do much :/
#100 [00:41] <Rulerofwax> ah ok, whatever
#101 [00:41] <Kealper> well...best of luck in getting that sorted out :/
#102 [00:41] <Rulerofwax> Thanks :D!
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#104 [00:42] <Gouled> I need help.
#105 [00:42] <Kealper> what sort of help?
#106 [00:42] <Rulerofwax> maybe this can be my time to give back and help :p
#107 [00:43] <Kealper> could be lol
#108 [00:43] <Gouled> My mine craft crashes.
#109 [00:43] <aetherian> ooh, from very specific to extremely specific
#110 [00:43] <Kealper> ok, when does it crash? right after it starts? or while you are playing?
#111 [00:43] <Rulerofwax> OS? How exactly - just a black screen, or what?
#112 [00:59] <aetherian> heh
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#115 [00:59] <Gouled> C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\natives\openAL64.dll is either not designed to run on Windows or it contains an error. Try installing the program again using the original installation media or contact your system administrator or the software vendor for support.
#116 [00:59] <aetherian> by the by, is vox dead now?
#117 [01:00] <Gouled> I have an error that turns minecraft off when I reach the Mojang screen. It read"C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\natives\openAL64.dll is either not designed to run on Windows or it contains an error. Try installing the program again using the original installation media or contact your system administrator or the software vendor for support."
#118 [01:00] <Gouled> Can I get help?
#119 [01:00] <Gouled> I have tried reinstalling.
#120 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried deleting "C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\
#121 [01:01] <aetherian> backup saves!
#122 [01:01] <Gouled> okay.
#123 [01:01] <Gouled> I'll try it.
#124 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> remember to save the "saves
#125 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> er, "saves" folder inside
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#129 [01:13] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: april fools
#130 [01:14] <aetherian> but actually
#131 [01:14] <aetherian> april fools, it's not april fools!
#132 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> ...
#133 [01:15] <aetherian> :D
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#138 [01:23] <aetherian> oh god
#139 [01:23] <aetherian> I'm so noivus
#140 [01:23] <aetherian> presentation tomorrow in front of a class D:
#141 [01:23] <aetherian> night guys
#142 [01:23] * aetherian says good night to AuBot
#142 [01:24] <aetherian> vox: good night.
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#145 [01:34] <willystylee> hello?
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#147 [01:34] <willystylee> anyone alive in here?
#148 [01:34] <Wug> no.
#149 [01:34] <willystylee> lol
#150 [01:36] <willystylee> im wondering if anyone can help me.. im a server owner and right now im tryin to save a schematic with SinglePlayerCommands and when i try to save the schematic, it gives me this: http://gyazo.com/da9b0e1348c8288f28889b005d7b5c00.png
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#153 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> We don't really give support for third party mods here..
#154 [01:36] <willystylee> ah ok
#155 [01:37] <willystylee> i understand
#156 [01:37] <willystylee> thanks anyways
#157 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're running the latest SPC mod?
#158 [01:37] <willystylee> yea
#159 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Is it compatible with 1.4_01?
#160 [01:37] <willystylee> yep
#161 [01:37] <Wug> report it to the makers of the mod
#162 [01:37] <Wug> that's what it says to do
#163 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, best way to report this, is in the forums
#164 [01:37] <willystylee> Preferred Download: Download V2.6_2 [1.4_01 BETA]
#165 [01:37] <willystylee> ok
#166 [01:37] <willystylee> ty
#167 [01:42] <Juan> What is the mincraft development channel?
#168 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> There isn't one
#169 [01:43] <Juan> hrm
#170 [01:43] <Juan> Do developers hang around here?
#171 [01:43] * genshou slaps Xeratiq around a bit with a large trout
#171 [01:43] <Wug> sometimes
#172 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> If you want to keep up with minecraft development, check out their twitters, check out the mojang blogs
#173 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> And yes Juan.
#174 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#175 [01:43] <Juan> I mean 3rd party developers.
#176 [01:43] * Wug pokes voxelhead
#176 [01:43] <Juan> Im looking for coding help with the beta format.
#177 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft then
#178 [01:44] <genshou> also #mcp-modding if you use MCP
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#191 [03:40] <headless> hello is anybody here?
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#193 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#194 [03:41] <headless> i noticed
#195 [03:42] <headless> i could use some help though
#196 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> With?
#197 [03:42] <headless> if you know java and have ever modded before
#198 [03:42] <headless> i know
#199 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> We don't really provide official support for third party mods here, but just ask.
#200 [03:42] <headless> not exactly the best irc to go to, but i'm trying everything at this point
#201 [03:43] <headless> well i'm continuously getting errors on something i wrote
#202 [03:43] <headless> i don't think it would be appropriate to copy/paste it over chat, so if you'll give me one second i'll go to pastebin
#203 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> pastebin away.
#204 [03:44] <headless> here's the code that's causing the error
#205 [03:44] <headless> http://pastebin.com/r78hFJ58
#206 [03:44] <headless> and i'll get the exact error up in one second
#207 [03:45] <headless> http://pastebin.com/02Gsu0Y9
#208 [03:45] <headless> and there it is
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#210 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I'm not that familiar with coding for modloader, have you tried #risucraft?
#211 [03:49] <headless> not yet, i'm new to esper
#212 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if you're declaring the water/lava variables correctly for modloader
#213 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> just type:
#214 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> /join #risucraft
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#216 [03:49] <headless> when you type, it gives me a link
#217 [03:49] <headless> so i just clicked it :P
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#220 [03:58] <Zattaru> This is a public announcement from Zidonuke: I have decided to end my contract with my current ISP in order to keep you bastards at bay. Also incase of possible legal action I'm now living with a friend. I will be using public Wifi's and alternative accounts given to me by followers of my cause. I have gained access to about 14 new accounts and have numerous
#221 [03:58] <Zattaru> IP addresses from public wifi's in the DC area. I will no longer be livestreaming this as you bastards will ban me. Minecraft is dead to me and you all are dead to me. And I'll kill myself before I give you all the satification of hauling me to a jail cell. I have nothing in my life and really had NO LIFE. I have found a cause that I'm willing to stand behind
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#224 [04:00] <shockin779> Hi. I have a creative server with one world, and I am trying to span this out to make multiple worlds on my creative server with multiple ranks per world. Any suggestions/software?
#225 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> I can recommand mclawl for a good custom classic server
#226 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> fcraft is also good.
#227 [04:01] <shockin779> are any of these able to set the server up for instance like opticraft
#228 [04:01] <shockin779> or team9000
#229 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry?
#230 [04:02] <shockin779> they are creative servers. they start players in the lobby, and the server auto creates a guest world every x min. you can also join any of the worlds and players have set ranks per world
#231 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, I haven't touched custom classic servers for a few months.
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#233 [04:03] <shockin779> Its ok. any mods you can recommend for creative servers that would help admin the server
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#236 [04:10] <iRb> Hello
#237 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#238 [04:10] <iRb> Oh i see now in the header that nobody in this channel can help me with account issues
#239 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> No, sorry, we're just community-run support here.
#240 [04:10] <iRb> Maybe somebody know where i have to be with my problem?
#241 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> If you need to reach Mojang with an account issue, you'll want to send an email to payment@mojang.com
#242 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> or support@mojang.com
#243 [04:11] <iRb> Ah thank you
#244 [04:14] <iRb> I've send the mail. Hopefully i get an answer soon. Thank again!
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#254 [04:52] <pitchblac23> can any one help me with nvidia open gl error 2 i have latest drivers and latest java have uninstalled everything to minecraft to java to the card it self
#255 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> What's the exact error?
#256 [04:53] <pitchblac23> um hang on wont take long to get it again
#257 [04:56] <pitchblac23> ok here it is
#258 [04:57] <pitchblac23> nvidia opengl driver
#259 [04:57] <Wug> you can copy and paste it :P
#260 [04:58] <pitchblac23> too many errors occurred which indicates a serious problem from which we cannot recover the app must close please visit nvidia.com/page/support.html for help error code 2
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#262 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a problem with your video drivers then
#263 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> You're going to want to look into reinstalling/updating them
#264 [04:59] <pitchblac23> lol like i said before i have uninstalled reinstalled updated downgraded all the way
#265 [05:00] <pitchblac23> idk what else to do but kinda crap that u pay 20$ and cant really play this game im not blaming minecraft or nvidia but something is not right
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#267 [05:01] <pitchblac23> it all started after 1.2 or so when 1.3 came out i had this problem then with every update it got worse
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#270 [05:06] <Coram_boy> hey - sorry to bother people with a newbie question, but is there any way to directly link two players without the use of a server?
#271 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#272 [05:06] <Coram_boy> meh.
#273 [05:06] <Coram_boy> gorram server costs >_<
#274 [05:07] <Coram_boy> okay, thanks.
#275 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Host your own
#276 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Server software is free
#277 [05:07] <Coram_boy> yeah; but frankly, my computer can barely play minecraft itself
#278 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#279 [05:07] <NotiCon> then get him to do it?
#280 [05:07] <Coram_boy> it can barely play age of mythology :P
#281 [05:07] <Coram_boy> we have the same model :|
#282 [05:07] <NotiCon> oh
#283 [05:07] <Coram_boy> it's fine, though.
#284 [05:08] <Coram_boy> oh well, don't worry about it
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#286 [05:08] <Coram_boy> except, uh, why did your bot just change its name to ''? :s
#287 [05:08] <NotiCon> or find some 3rd person that have a server you can play on
#288 [05:08] <Coram_boy> yeah, I guess that's what we'll try.
#289 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> glados isn't a bot
#290 [05:08] <Coram_boy> o_O
#291 [05:09] <Coram_boy> okay, that's odd.
#292 [05:09] <NotiCon> also itsnt " its ´´
#293 [05:09] <NotiCon> err ``
#294 [05:09] <Coram_boy> =_=
#295 [05:09] <Coram_boy> xD
#296 [05:09] <Coram_boy> anyway, thanks.
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#299 [05:39] <mr_boo_> Zidonuke is back crashing servers with a new account. he just crashed my server with his openband IP, Contact his ISP! http://pastebin.com/SC9BUAi9
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#301 [05:41] <Wug> ^ this might be a hoax.
#302 [05:43] <Wug> the account he had supposedly been using turns out not to be registered. It could've been anyone. It has been registered now.
#303 [05:44] <mr_boo_> So? thats his IP
#304 [05:44] <mr_boo_> call his ISP and get the cops invovled
#305 [05:44] <Wug> http://50.16.200.224/game/joinserver.jsp?user=ZidonukeIsBack
#306 [05:44] <NotiCon> mr_boo_: then why dont you call?
#307 [05:44] <Wug> he probably has
#308 [05:44] <mr_boo_> I did but they need more people to complain.
#309 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo_ - His ISP has already been contacted
#310 [05:44] <Wug> but I'm pretty sure he's done at this point
#311 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> It's been shut off.
#312 [05:44] <mr_boo_> Need more complains for now~
#313 [05:45] <mr_boo_> hes back online
#314 [05:45] <mr_boo_> right now
#315 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> He's not using his ISP anymore, it's been disconnected
#316 [05:45] <mr_boo_> I still see his 209 address!
#317 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> If you were here earlier, you would've seen his message saying that he's moved onto open wifi hotspots
#318 [05:46] <mr_boo_> Well if we bother his ISP more, they will take legal action on him~
#319 [05:46] <mr_boo_> !
#320 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> His ISP's received hundreds of calls last night
#321 [05:47] <mr_boo_> take a moment of your time and do a service to the world to take him out again.
#322 [05:47] <mr_boo_> No hackers~
#323 [05:47] <mr_boo_> !
#324 [05:47] <AG_Scott> I already spoke with his ISP today.
#325 [05:48] <AG_Scott> His account is suspended.
#326 [05:48] <AG_Scott> I'm sure they've been bothered enough lol
#327 [05:49] <AG_Scott> I should of set that pastebin to expire.
#328 [05:49] <AG_Scott> I think that's my most popular paste XD
#329 [05:49] <AG_Scott> Views: 1,398
#330 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Eh, if you still have the cookie, you should still have the option to delete it
#331 [05:49] <mr_boo_> Well I spoke with them and they will take legal action on him if there are enough more complains because his internet is back on.
#332 [05:50] <AG_Scott> It is not back on...
#333 [05:50] <mr_boo_> It is so.
#334 [05:50] <AG_Scott> At least, that is not the IP.
#335 [05:50] <AG_Scott> He is using his phone to tether.
#336 [05:50] <mr_boo_> Hes online at the IP I saw it connect.
#337 [05:50] <AG_Scott> Take a screenshot.
#338 [05:51] <mr_boo_> how its not in the console anymore.
#339 [05:51] <AG_Scott> server.log
#340 [05:51] <mr_boo_> It got overwriten.
#341 [05:52] <AG_Scott> Well, I know he isn't online with that IP so.
#342 [05:52] <mr_boo_> call them yourself again, they will tell you.
#343 [05:53] <AG_Scott> It is not online lol...
#344 [05:53] <mr_boo_> How do you know so?
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#348 [05:55] <mr_boo_> AG_Scott, how do you know he wont come back?
#349 [05:56] <AG_Scott> mr_boo_, his ISP has assured me his connection would not be restored and nothing shows that it is back up.
#350 [05:57] <AG_Scott> I think you are lying about him connecting to your server with that ISP which rather annoys me.
#351 [05:57] <mr_boo_> How did you get his ISP to do that to him?
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#353 [05:57] <Wug> the account which supposedly logged into the server that was crashed
#354 [05:58] <AG_Scott> I work for a hosting company.
#355 [05:58] <Wug> is called "ZidonukeIsBack"
#356 [05:58] <Wug> it's not premium
#357 [05:58] <Wug> and I have the password for it.
#358 [05:58] <Wug> he was not using that account
#359 [05:58] <AG_Scott> I know what it is like to deal with false abuse complaints so you telling people to aggravate them pisses me off.
#360 [05:58] <Wug> besides
#361 [05:59] <Wug> from what I understand
#362 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> I'm with AG_Scott on this. Please drop this matter.
#363 [05:59] <Wug> zido rather regrets his actions
#364 [05:59] <mr_boo_> How do you know? hes a hacker scum
#365 [05:59] <mr_boo_> and should die for his actions
#366 [05:59] <AG_Scott> M needs to be op in here.
#367 [05:59] <Wug> dear god
#368 [05:59] <Wug> someone did a thing on the internet
#369 [06:00] * AG_Scott kicked mr_boo_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: SERIOUSLY ENOUGH!)
#370 [06:00] <Wug> they must be punished !!1
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#372 [06:00] <Wug> i've been speaking with doridian via pm
#373 [06:00] <Wug> for probably an hour
#374 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> Drop it. This is neither the channel, nor the people to talk to concerning this issue.
#375 [06:00] <Wug> ok then
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#386 [06:28] <Vincent> hi
#387 [06:28] <Vincent> how can i play mc on linux?
#388 [06:29] <NotiCon> install java
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#390 [06:29] <Vincent> not realy easy as it looks
#391 [06:29] <Vincent> cant get that to work
#392 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the distro.. many have a package manager.
#393 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> If yours doesn't, you can go to java.com and download it there
#394 [06:30] <Vincent> well
#395 [06:30] <Vincent> i have package manager
#396 [06:30] <Vincent> but java doesnt work
#397 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> Define, "Doesn't work"
#398 [06:30] <Vincent> for some reason
#399 [06:30] <Chr|s> Vincent: what distro do you have?
#400 [06:30] <Vincent> I have MInt
#401 [06:31] <Chr|s> ok ubuntu based
#402 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> And what do you get when you try to run minecraft?
#403 [06:31] <AG_Scott> actually they base it on several distros
#404 [06:31] <AG_Scott> what spin of mint?
#405 [06:31] <Chr|s> they do? just thought it was ubuntu
#406 [06:32] <Chr|s> based on debian and ubuntu. no other distros
#407 [06:32] <Vincent> never mind, got it to work
#408 [06:32] <Chr|s> Vincent: grats!
#409 [06:35] <Vincent> by the way
#410 [06:35] <Vincent> im gonna buy it next month :D
#411 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> You pirated minecraft..
#412 [06:36] <Vincent> yep
#413 [06:36] <Vincent> srry
#414 [06:36] <Vincent> to say
#415 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> !k Vincent
#416 [06:36] * GreyBot kicked Vincent from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:631>)
#417 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Something I don't tolerate in this channel.
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#419 [06:36] <Vincent> uhh
#420 [06:36] <Vincent> wont do it again
#421 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> You didn't pay for minecraft, and yet you still have the audacity to come here to ask for help?
#422 [06:37] <Vincent> well
#423 [06:37] <Vincent> its stupid
#424 [06:37] <Vincent> i know
#425 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
#426 [06:37] <Vincent> i like the game, so im gonna buy it
#427 [06:37] <Vincent> i want to support the developers
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#429 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> I'll believe it when I see it.
#430 [06:38] <AG_Scott> We should start collecting IPs of pirates.
#431 [06:38] <Vincent> you do gonna see it
#432 [06:38] <NotiCon> and stab them?
#433 [06:39] <Vincent> xD
#434 [06:39] <AG_Scott> No, and let Mojang sue them.
#435 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Not even worth the legal costs of filing.
#436 [06:39] <Vincent> well,
#437 [06:40] <Vincent> im not afraid of tht
#438 [06:40] <NotiCon> why not?
#439 [06:40] <Vincent> well
#440 [06:40] <AG_Scott> It's not but I would enjoy seeing it.
#441 [06:40] * GreyVulpine nods
#441 [06:40] <Vincent> there were millions of people before me
#442 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> And that's an excuse?
#443 [06:40] <Vincent> well
#444 [06:41] <Vincent> no
#445 [06:41] <NotiCon> millions?
#446 [06:41] <Vincent> yep
#447 [06:41] <NotiCon> millions already pirated minecraft?
#448 [06:41] <Vincent> well
#449 [06:41] <Vincent> im not sure about that
#450 [06:41] <Vincent> but
#451 [06:41] <Vincent> other games
#452 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry officer, everybody else was going 20-over the speed limit, so it's okay for me to do so as well.
#453 [06:41] <Vincent> like black ops
#454 [06:41] * AG_Scott sighs.
#454 [06:41] * NotiCon facepalms
#454 [06:41] <AG_Scott> It's not even an expensive game.
#455 [06:42] <Vincent> thats why im gonna buy it
#456 [06:42] <Vincent> You can believe me
#457 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> We've heard that line here many times before.
#458 [06:42] <Vincent> nope
#459 [06:42] <Vincent> only 2 times
#460 [06:42] <Vincent> or
#461 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> I meant, from other people.
#462 [06:43] <Vincent> i wanted to say that
#463 [06:43] <Vincent> sry
#464 [06:43] <AG_Scott> I'm bored and can't sleep.
#465 [06:43] <Vincent> but
#466 [06:43] <Vincent> Lawl
#467 [06:43] <AG_Scott> I'm eating peanut butter from a jar with a bit spoon.
#468 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> You'll have to excuse me when I say, what little faith I have in humanity I have left, wouldn't count for jack crap when people say "trust me"
#469 [06:44] <Vincent> well ok
#470 [06:44] <Vincent> i understand
#471 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Especially with pirating games, and "trying them out, I'll pay later, I swear"
#472 [06:44] <AG_Scott> I paid for minecraft but it's a business expense so yay.
#473 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Hah, lucky bastard
#474 [06:44] <AG_Scott> It's kind of funny.
#475 [06:45] <AG_Scott> Pretty much every game can be business expenses.
#476 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Wish I could do that.
#477 [06:46] <Vincent> greyvulpine: lucky you, i cant even login into minecraft
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#479 [06:46] <Vincent> it says it have to login online before playing ofline
#480 [06:46] <Vincent> :P
#481 [06:47] <AG_Scott> Good.
#482 [06:47] <Vincent> yep
#483 [06:47] <Vincent> i have a shitty irc client :(
#484 [06:49] <Vincent> gottago
#485 [06:49] <Vincent> :(
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#487 [06:50] <Vincent> now im gonna feel guilty
#488 [06:50] <Vincent> crycrycry
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#492 [07:07] <McBag> hi
#493 [07:07] <McBag> minecraft doesn't work for me
#494 [07:08] <McBag> connection lost end of stream
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#496 [07:09] <vb> can somebody give me a map renderer?
#497 [07:12] <TobiX> McBag: Do you try connecting to a Multiplayer server? Which one?
#498 [07:13] <McBag> ehm
#499 [07:13] <McBag> I'll pm you
#500 [07:13] <vb> halp
#501 [07:13] <vb> can somebody give me a map renderer?
#502 [07:14] <TobiX> vb: This page? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors
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#504 [07:14] <vb> tks
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#508 [07:21] <SpellforceRobin> iü
#509 [07:21] <SpellforceRobin> anyone there?
#510 [07:22] <TobiX> Patience is a virtue...
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#512 [07:22] <panitaliemom> anyone there
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#514 [07:22] <panitaliemom> anyone there
#515 [07:22] <NotiCon> no
#516 [07:22] <vb> any seed that has all the climates?
#517 [07:22] <vb> my map has no taiga so i have no wolfes
#518 [07:22] <vb> :((((
#519 [07:22] <panitaliemom> need help launching minecraft
#520 [07:23] <vb> i will try to use mcedit to move my house to the newmap
#521 [07:23] <panitaliemom> theres an error and i dont know what it means
#522 [07:23] <vb> but i need a good seed that has more climates
#523 [07:23] <panitaliemom> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4e131f77, pid=2916, tid=2940 # # JRE version: 6.0_24-b07 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.1-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglxx.dll+0x91f77]
#524 [07:25] <vb> any seed that has all the climates?
#525 [07:27] <panitaliemom> no answer
#526 [07:27] <lemon-rev> panitaliemom try the reinstall of java
#527 [07:27] <lemon-rev> its def java's breaking
#528 [07:28] <panitaliemom> ok thx ill try
#529 [07:28] <lemon-rev> yea np
#530 [07:29] <vb> any seed that has all the climates?
#531 [07:29] <lemon-rev> ask somewhere someone cares
#532 [07:29] <lemon-rev> this is a help channel
#533 [07:29] <lemon-rev> not a climate for mc
#534 [07:30] <vb> why reply?
#535 [07:31] <lemon-rev> hm, cause other wise you would have keeped on asking
#536 [07:31] <vb> and i will
#537 [07:31] <lemon-rev> idot
#538 [07:31] <vb> any seed that has all the climates? or at least wolves?
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#540 [07:32] <[z]> Most, if not all, should, if you just look around
#541 [07:33] <vb> i just read that i have to put torches in forest and check at night
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#544 [07:38] <BarryCarlyon> vb apparently wolves are more popular in talga biomes, (snowy forest), or look in forests near water with light level 7 or lower
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#546 [07:47] <CalypsoLTS> o/
#547 [07:47] <CalypsoLTS> How is everyone this morning?
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#554 [08:00] <zhaarteth> So after logging in I am getting a CTD at the title screen at random times, but always before I have a chance at loading a world. No report or anything, it just commits suicide (silent and direct crash-to-desktop). Happens on both XP and Ubuntu Lucid on my primary machine as well as Ubuntu Maverick on my second machine. This has only occurred since the 1.4 update. I've also tried reinstalling JRE/JDK on both OS/machines as
#555 [08:00] <zhaarteth> well as doing complete reinstalls of Minecraft to no avail.
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#557 [08:08] <Tarpoon> hello everybody, I am a reasking a problem I asked about on #minecraft, because after searching through 10 pages on the "Support" forum I still haven't found a solution.
#558 [08:08] <Tarpoon> I got a problem with my current singleplayer game. Keep getting stuck in air (when doing nothing but walking) and if I move my char with MCEdit I can only do a few steps before getting stuck again.
#559 [08:08] <Tarpoon> And I have a few stuck pigs and chicken outside my house.
#560 [08:08] <Tarpoon> I used a hd texture pack (with the patcher programm), have removed everything, force updated minecraft and checked that I have an up to date java. The problem still exists.
#561 [08:08] <Tarpoon> I was told that the issue is known and that a solution exists on the forums, however I had no luck finding anything
#562 [08:08] <Tarpoon> Can someone please point me in the right direction?
#563 [08:08] * Espeon falls over
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#564 [08:09] <Tarpoon> oh, I hope everything of that message got out before I got "+q"ed
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#569 [08:31] <Tarpoon> I guess the messages got blocked, so I will describe my problem again. I have outside of my house a bunch of pigs and chicken with are "stuck" and can't be killed. After moving a little bit I usually get stuck too and I can't move anymore. If I fire arrows in this state they will be (graphically) stuck in my head. If I move my characters position with MCEdit I can move around again for a little bit but then become stuck again. I
#570 [08:31] <Tarpoon> game with a high res mod installed with "mcpatcher-2.0.0-beta3.jar". I already removed everything except the saves from my minecraft folder and did a forced update. I was told on #minecraft that the issue is known and can be fixed, however I can't find any solutions in the forums or by googling "minecraft stuck in air" or similar terms. Can someone please point me in the right direction to fixing the issue or will I have to aband
#571 [08:31] <Tarpoon> and start over?
#572 [08:32] <SlashLife> "I can't afford TNT, so I'll just take what nature hassssSSSSSS to offer."
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#574 [08:34] <Tarpoon> so I should try blowing myself up? Ok
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#576 [08:42] <Cazed1221> Hello, i am looking for some help with my Minecraft account
#577 [08:45] <SlashLife> Tarpoon: Didn't mean you.
#578 [08:45] <SlashLife> Tarpoon: Try logging out and logging in again.
#579 [08:45] <Tarpoon> did that already
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#581 [08:47] <Tarpoon> I first got stuck inside my mine after jumping, the frozen pigs outside my house are new, but I thought it might help to locate the problem. My guess is that somewhere some parts of my world are corrupted. Strangely my dog can still move
#582 [08:48] <Tarpoon> and as long as I am not stuck everything works fine. And I noticed that I get stuck more often inside my mine or close to the stuck animals but certain areas don't seem to be affected at all
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#586 [08:52] <Spikey> Hey guys, since Beta, Minecraft has been rendering the world really slow. I can't start up a world really and play because it just lags the crap out of my computer. My computer is decent, and really should be able to run a game like minecraft. Any ideas?
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#588 [08:56] <Spikey> No one?
#589 [08:57] <Tarpoon> Not really... are your graphic drivers up to date? Thats what I usally check first if a game runs slower than it should
#590 [08:59] <Spikey> I'll update them right now actually. Thanks.
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#605 [10:34] <Glycan> How do I get my save file?
#606 [10:34] <NotiCon> windows/linux/mac?
#607 [10:35] <Glycan> Win
#608 [10:35] <NotiCon> %appdata%/.minecraft/saves iirc
#609 [10:35] <Glycan> Okay
#610 [10:36] <Glycan> Hang on
#611 [10:36] <Glycan> No such folder
#612 [10:36] <NotiCon> which windows you under?
#613 [10:37] <Glycan> WinXp
#614 [10:37] <NotiCon> oh
#615 [10:38] <NotiCon> isnt there an %appdata%/.minecraft folder?
#616 [10:39] <Glycan> Yes, there is, but no save file
#617 [10:39] <Glycan> folder
#618 [10:39] <NotiCon> which folders is ther ein that folder?
#619 [10:39] <NotiCon> there*
#620 [10:40] <Glycan> bin, resources, texturepacks
#621 [10:40] <NotiCon> did you play sp or smp?
#622 [10:40] <Glycan> ?
#623 [10:41] <Glycan> beta...
#624 [10:41] <NotiCon> no single player or multiplayer
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#626 [10:44] <NotiCon> cause if you are playing multiplayer then there is no save however if you are playing singleplayer there should be a folder in that .minecraft folder called saves
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#628 [10:44] <Vincentlol> The pirate is back
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#630 [10:44] <Vincentlol> xD
#631 [10:44] <NotiCon> kill him with fire!
#632 [10:44] <Vincentlol> Haha
#633 [10:45] <Vincentlol> any1 knows how to restore my windows with linux?
#634 [10:45] <Vincentlol> its f*cked up
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#636 [10:55] <xolotl> Vincentlol: That would sort of depend on the particulars, yeah?
#637 [10:56] <oldtopman> Bye:Work
#638 [10:56] <Imgor> Anyone know why I get the "connection lost. End of stream" when I try to connect to the minecraft server?
#639 [10:56] <oldtopman> Imgor: BEcause you don't wait long enough between retries
#640 [10:56] <oldtopman> Happens to me all the sime
#641 [10:57] <oldtopman> Wait 30s to be safe
#642 [10:57] <oldtopman> Bye:Work
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#644 [10:58] <Imgor> Bye, still don't work though and I waited like 10 mins
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#647 [11:09] <dsaasd> geefance kiss
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#649 [11:09] <dsaasd> fixxerns
#650 [11:10] <fixxerns> yeah?
#651 [11:10] <fixxerns> aoumen döh
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#655 [11:28] <GeeFance> hi, anyone knows how to host a server from an ubuntu server
#656 [11:35] <Ir0nman> Some can help me with essentials + /give command
#657 [11:38] <Morrolan> Ir0nman: Might want to hop over to #essentials
#658 [11:39] <Morrolan> GeeFance: Sorry nope, got no experience with Ubuntu (or Linux in general), you'll have to wait for someone else.
#659 [11:39] <Ir0nman> thanks, im not 100% its essentials
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#661 [11:42] <CalypsoLTS> Hello all
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#664 [11:50] <CalypsoLTS> sure is quiet in here
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#667 [11:50] <Bashew> Hey all, I have a problem with Minecraft+Ubuntu+AMD graphics card. I've been searching around and the latest posts I can find anywhere are from January.
#668 [11:51] <g> Bashew: And because of that, you haven't tried what they suggest?
#669 [11:51] <Bashew> And there isn't a clear concensus if this is a Java issue, AMD being lousy with drivers, or what
#670 [11:51] <Bashew> g, I'm on the official AMD drivers
#671 [11:51] <Bashew> The open source drivers aren't even allowing me to launch it.
#672 [11:51] <g> Are they the correct drivers for your specific card and processor?
#673 [11:52] <g> (As in, 32 or 64 bit processor)
#674 [11:52] <Bashew> Yes
#675 [11:52] <g> And your java?
#676 [11:52] <g> Which java are you using?
#677 [11:52] <Bashew> I've been through all of that. And yes
#678 [11:52] <Bashew> Sec
#679 [11:52] <Bashew> Using the official Sun java: Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (19.1-b02 mixed mode linux-x86 )
#680 [11:52] <g> hmm
#681 [11:53] <g> What version of 'buntu are you?
#682 [11:53] <Bashew> I've tried this in both 10.10, and in 11.04. Works flawlessly on my laptop with nvidia graphics
#683 [11:53] <Bashew> rather, the beta of 11.04 lol
#684 [11:53] <g> lol
#685 [11:53] <g> I'm really not sure to be honest
#686 [11:53] <g> since all the cards I've used have been NVIDIA
#687 [11:54] <Bashew> Same. Every nvidia card I've ever owned has been glorious on Linux. AMD... not so much.
#688 [11:54] <g> but I do hear that ATI has terrible nix suport
#689 [11:54] <g> and AMT too
#690 [11:54] <g> AMD*(
#691 [11:54] <g> :P
#692 [11:54] <g> Isn't AMD an integrated?
#693 [11:54] <Bashew> Nah, they merged the two lines a while back iirc
#694 [11:54] <CalypsoLTS> I was running ubuntu on my laptop at home with an AMD graphics card and it worked fine
#695 [11:54] <CalypsoLTS> it was a while ago though
#696 [11:54] <Bashew> Ah
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#698 [11:55] <Bashew> See, I only recently bought minecraft. Works in Windows on my laptop as well, but if I can avoid that, that'd be great ;D
#699 [11:55] <CalypsoLTS> grats on joining us :-) You will be addicted if you aren't already...hehe
#700 [11:56] <g> it he can get it working
#701 [11:56] <CalypsoLTS> touche
#702 [11:56] <g> Bashew: I'm not entirely sure of the issue. What exactly happens?
#703 [11:57] <Bashew> Well, I can load it just fine and log in, but when I go to generate a world it bombs. Then randomly it'll decide to bomb on the main screen
#704 [11:57] <Bashew> CalypsoLTS, if this pesky college will get out of the way, I'll become even more addicted
#705 [11:57] <g> "bomb"?
#706 [11:57] <Bashew> like, it crashes
#707 [11:57] <g> oh right
#708 [11:58] <g> X is fully updated?
#709 [11:58] <Bashew> Yup
#710 [11:58] <g> gnome / kde?
#711 [11:58] <Bashew> Gnome
#712 [11:58] <g> hrm
#713 [11:58] <g> Have you tried multiplayer?
#714 [11:58] <Bashew> If we go to the AMD headquarters with a bunch of blocky weapons, they might get the hint.
#715 [11:58] <g> xD
#716 [11:58] <CalypsoLTS> lol
#717 [11:59] <Bashew> When I click on MP, it occasionally crashes. It won't even get into that menu
#718 [11:59] <CalypsoLTS> are you running the minecraft.jar file from the command line or double clicking?
#719 [12:00] <Bashew> Command-line
#720 [12:00] <Bashew> For some reason, Gnome didn't associate JAR files with the java interpreter or something
#721 [12:00] <CalypsoLTS> I remember, when I had linux on my machine, I had to add some switches onto the command for it to run correctly, unfortuneately I don't remember what they were >.<
#722 [12:01] <Bashew> -Xmx1024M -Xms512M
#723 [12:01] <Bashew> ^ ?
#724 [12:01] <CalypsoLTS> possibly
#725 [12:02] <CalypsoLTS> yeah, that was it
#726 [12:02] <CalypsoLTS> have you played with those numbers at all?
#727 [12:02] <Bashew> Yeah. But those just allocate memory to the java VM iirc
#728 [12:03] <CalypsoLTS> yeah, I was just looking at that
#729 [12:03] <Bashew> I'm thinking I should just bite the bullet and get a nvidia card, since I'm in want of a graphics card update.
#730 [12:03] <CalypsoLTS> are you able to run MC in a browser?
#731 [12:03] <Bashew> Lemme try that
#732 [12:05] <Bashew> Nope, doesn't even load the main screen
#733 [12:08] <CalypsoLTS> try java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#734 [12:08] <CalypsoLTS> see what that does
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#737 [12:09] <Kus> hi
#738 [12:09] <CalypsoLTS> however, if you want to use it as an excuse to upgrade your gfx card :-P be my guest, thats the reason I give my wife all the time...hehe
#739 [12:09] <Kus> anyone here?
#740 [12:09] <Bashew> :( Crashed when I hovered over the main menu.
#741 [12:09] <Bashew> CalypsoLTS, gotta treat yourself every now and then, right? :D
#742 [12:09] <CalypsoLTS> exactly
#743 [12:10] <Kus> i am making a server and want to use a map that i have used in my singleplayer game... is that possible?
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#745 [12:10] <Bashew> Then again... A month ago I did build a quad core AMD (something) server, 16GB RAM, and 4TB HDD space
#746 [12:10] <Bashew> across a raid10 lol
#747 [12:10] <CalypsoLTS> nice
#748 [12:10] <CalypsoLTS> have you tried uping the memory allocation numbers?
#749 [12:10] <Bashew> My brother got me into Minecraft, and now he's demanding I set him a server up for him. lol
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#751 [12:11] <CalypsoLTS> Kus, I am not sure, I think the levels are saved in different formats, you would have to find a way to convert them
#752 [12:11] <CalypsoLTS> Kus: I believe I once saw a tool that would help you do that
#753 [12:11] <CalypsoLTS> Kus: Have you checked the server section on the MC forums?
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#755 [12:16] <Tails_155[^w^]> hey
#756 [12:17] <CalypsoLTS> hello
#757 [12:17] <Tails_155[^w^]> I am having trouble getting the standalone to work, and the browser app tends not to load
#758 [12:17] <Kus> @CalypsoLTS: i haven't... i'll check
#759 [12:18] <CalypsoLTS> Kus: there is a 3rd party tools section as well that might have something useful (sorry, my MC serverfu is weak)
#760 [12:18] <CalypsoLTS> Tails: Whats it doing/not doing?
#761 [12:18] <Tails_155[^w^]> I log in, and immediately after, the standalone closes
#762 [12:19] <CalypsoLTS> what OS are you using?
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#764 [12:19] <Tails_155[^w^]> Vista, most updated Java, computer is less than 3 years old
#765 [12:19] <CalypsoLTS> are you using any mods?
#766 [12:19] <CalypsoLTS> MC mods that is
#767 [12:20] <Tails_155[^w^]> I haven't downloaded anything yet
#768 [12:20] <Tails_155[^w^]> except the standalone
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#770 [12:21] <CalypsoLTS> It doesn't say anything before it stops, it just goes dead?
#771 [12:22] <Tails_155[^w^]> yeah...
#772 [12:22] <CalypsoLTS> have you tried deleting that exe you downloaded and grabbing it again? I know there is another link on the downloads section if the first one doesn't work
#773 [12:22] <Tails_155[^w^]> I'll try that in a sec
#774 [12:23] <CalypsoLTS> k, also, do you have UAC enabled on vista?
#775 [12:24] <Tails_155[^w^]> ?
#776 [12:24] <CalypsoLTS> if so, you could try and disable that, you might also try running the minecraft.exe file as administrator
#777 [12:25] <CalypsoLTS> UAC = User Account Control, its what causes all those popups when you try to do anything
#778 [12:25] <Tails_155[^w^]> oh yes
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#780 [12:25] <Tails_155[^w^]> how do you shut that off? That drives me crazy
#781 [12:25] <Tails_155[^w^]> using as administrator still closes it
#782 [12:25] <Floris> I am on snow leopard, mac, with 16gb ram - are there any start up commands i can use to give it more memory?
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#784 [12:26] <CalypsoLTS> http://miburl.com/W4YDKF
#785 [12:27] <CalypsoLTS> Floris: Unfortuneately, I don't know anything about Mac
#786 [12:27] <CalypsoLTS> that link is for you Tails, it will tell you how to disable UAC
#787 [12:27] <Floris> Ok, does the Windows version have any startup string options?
#788 [12:28] <Tails_155[^w^]> gah... I'll have to restart :S I'll be back
#789 [12:28] <CalypsoLTS> k
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#791 [12:28] <xolotl> Floris: The java command shown on the download page of minecraft.net includes the memory parameters
#792 [12:28] <xolotl> Floris: -Xms is the starting memory amount, -Xmx is the max memory amount. Adjust to suit.
#793 [12:28] <Floris> Thanks for the tip. And yeah, duh, makes sense.. looking into it :)
#794 [12:28] <Floris> :thumbsup:
#795 [12:28] <CalypsoLTS> xolotl: I was wondering what those switchs ment
#796 [12:28] <Tails_155[^w^]> .... wow...
#797 [12:29] <xolotl> Floris: np. :)
#798 [12:29] <Tails_155[^w^]> it won't do anything when I click the button
#799 [12:29] <xolotl> CalypsoLTS: ... and now you know!
#800 [12:29] <CalypsoLTS> that I do
#801 [12:29] <CalypsoLTS> Tails: which button?
#802 [12:29] * xolotl shakes his head at a good G.I. Joe reference squandered
#802 [12:29] <Tails_155[^w^]> the turn UAC on/off one
#803 [12:29] <Tails_155[^w^]> it just... sits on the same screen
#804 [12:30] <Tails_155[^w^]> I'mma try this on my desktop... ._.
#805 [12:30] <CalypsoLTS> lol, sorry xolotl, I just now got it
#806 [12:30] <xolotl> CalypsoLTS: :)
#807 [12:31] <CalypsoLTS> Tails: another thought would be to delete the minecraft.jar folder in the .minecraft folder, it will cause the launcher to redownload everything
#808 [12:32] <CalypsoLTS> Tails_155[^w^]: minecraft.jar from the .minecraft folder*
#809 [12:32] <CalypsoLTS> hey xolotl, have you had any issues with lag?
#810 [12:33] <CalypsoLTS> in sps?
#811 [12:33] <Kus> @CalypsoLTS: i have done it :D thx
#812 [12:33] <CalypsoLTS> Kus: no problem :-)
#813 [12:33] <xolotl> CalypsoLTS: In singleplayer, you mean? I seem to think that it can occasionally get a bit choppy while it's generating new chunks
#814 [12:33] <CalypsoLTS> Kus: find what you were looking for?
#815 [12:33] <xolotl> CalypsoLTS: I actually haven't really played in the past couple of weeks though, so I'm probably not the best person to ask
#816 [12:34] <Floris> For reference, it seems the Minecraft.app/ folder has Info.plist with inside it the vars:
#817 [12:34] <Floris> <key>VMOptions</key>
#818 [12:34] <Floris> <string>-Xms512M -Xmx1024M</string>
#819 [12:34] <CalypsoLTS> xolotl: yeah, thats one of the things about this game I find interesting, I can play EVE Online and World of tanks on this laptop just fine, but MC causes all sorts of lag
#820 [12:34] <Kus> CalypsoLTS: yep
#821 [12:34] <CalypsoLTS> Kus: Excellent :-)
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#823 [12:34] <xolotl> Floris: Ah, cool
#824 [12:35] <xolotl> CalypsoLTS: Yeah, Minecraft could certainly use a big ol' Optimization Stick
#825 [12:35] <xolotl> CalypsoLTS: Hopefully they'll get some of that figured out by 11/11. :)
#826 [12:35] <Tails_155[^w^]> CalypsoLTS: The bin folder? Tgere are several jars
#827 [12:35] <Tails_155[^w^]> There*
#828 [12:35] <CalypsoLTS> Tails_155[^w^]: yes, delete the minecraft.jar then run the minecraft.exe file again
#829 [12:36] <CalypsoLTS> Tails_155[^w^]: and talk nice to it during the process :-)
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#831 [12:37] <Tails_155[^w^]> lol
#832 [12:38] * CalypsoLTS needs to do the same as Tails_155[^w^], I need to reinstall some mods
#832 [12:38] <Tails_155[^w^]> .... now it's frozen at "Done Loading"
#833 [12:39] <CalypsoLTS> PROGRESS!!!....lol
#834 [12:39] <Tails_155[^w^]> I haven't even gotten to the login area yet... technically backtracking :S
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#836 [12:39] <CalypsoLTS> oh, nvm then
#837 [12:39] <CalypsoLTS> hehe
#838 [12:40] <CalypsoLTS> close the client, right click on the minecraft.exe, select properties, then select the compatibility tab, there should be an option there to run in compatibility mode, check that box and select XP SP2/3
#839 [12:41] <Floris> Yeah, thanks for the tip! It seems to have worked, changed it to 2gb, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/693961/mc_mem_01.png
#840 [12:41] <Tails_155[^w^]> wellllllll.... it works on my desktop
#841 [12:42] <Tails_155[^w^]> so I guess I'll play on there...
#842 [12:42] <Tails_155[^w^]> SC II crashed on this computer, too :S
#843 [12:42] <CalypsoLTS> awsome Floris
#844 [12:43] <Tails_155[^w^]> thanks for the help
#845 [12:43] <CalypsoLTS> Tails_155[^w^]: sorry its not working for ya, at least the desktop is playing nice
#846 [12:43] <Tails_155[^w^]> mhm
#847 [12:44] <CalypsoLTS> Tails_155[^w^]: my next suggestion was going to be to download the minecraft.jar for linux and run the .jar file...heh
#848 [12:45] <CalypsoLTS> I wonder if there is anything going on with the MC servers
#849 [12:46] <CalypsoLTS> Tails_155[^w^]: when you open the launcher, try clicking on the options button, then click on the "force update" button, then log in
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#856 [12:56] <McBag> hi
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#858 [12:56] <McBag> our minecraft server doesn't work
#859 [12:56] <DataWizard> In what way?
#860 [12:56] <McBag> failed to connect
#861 [12:57] <McBag> or something like that
#862 [12:57] <McBag> connection lost
#863 [12:57] <McBag> end of stream
#864 [12:57] <DataWizard> Is this a VPS, specialized MC hosting, or a home server?
#865 [12:57] <McBag> a normal server
#866 [12:57] <McBag> with windows server 2008
#867 [12:58] <DataWizard> Hmm, I haven't ever used Windows for a Server before, so im not sure how much help I can be. :(
#868 [12:59] <McBag> teamviewer support would be great
#869 [12:59] <McBag> I tried all I could
#870 [12:59] <DataWizard> Do you have mods installed? If so, which ones?
#871 [12:59] <McBag> but without result
#872 [12:59] <McBag> no mods
#873 [13:00] <DataWizard> Are you connecting locally, or from across the Internet?
#874 [13:00] <McBag> internet
#875 [13:00] <McBag> rdp
#876 [13:00] <McBag> remote desktop
#877 [13:01] <DataWizard> Generally it's a bad idea, but can you try running the client on the host machine and connecting that way?
#878 [13:01] <DataWizard> You'll have to use 127.0.0.1 instead of your normal Ip/URL
#879 [13:02] <McBag> and the other clients?
#880 [13:02] <McBag> what will they have to type into minecraft
#881 [13:02] <McBag> they connect from across the internet
#882 [13:02] <DataWizard> Oh nothing, right now we're testing, I want to see if the problem is with the actual server or the connection.
#883 [13:02] <McBag> ok
#884 [13:03] <McBag> so now I'll change the IP
#885 [13:03] <McBag> mom
#886 [13:03] <McBag> done!
#887 [13:03] <DataWizard> You're going to run Minecraft on the remote desktop, right?
#888 [13:03] <DataWizard> And use 127..
#889 [13:04] <McBag> yepp
#890 [13:04] <McBag> tarting Minecraft server on 127.0.0.1:22063
#891 [13:04] <DataWizard> And can yo connect using the client on the server?
#892 [13:05] <McBag> I use the server.exe on the server
#893 [13:05] <McBag> and connect from home
#894 [13:05] <DataWizard> No, you need to connect from the server, not home, this time, in order to test. Download the client onto the remote desktop and connect from that.
#895 [13:06] <McBag> Ok
#896 [13:06] <DataWizard> See, we want to skip the Internet connection bit, which is done by running the game on the same computer as the server.
#897 [13:07] <McBag> minecraft.exe started
#898 [13:07] <McBag> and now?
#899 [13:07] <McBag> enter 127.. I suppose
#900 [13:08] <McBag> bad video card drivers
#901 [13:08] <McBag> it's a server
#902 [13:08] <McBag> so it has no real video-card
#903 [13:08] <McBag> I can't use OpenGL there
#904 [13:10] <DataWizard> Oh, hmm.
#905 [13:10] <DataWizard> Okay, well has this server worked in the past?
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#907 [13:11] <McBag> for what purpose?
#908 [13:11] <McBag> minecraft? Never tried before
#909 [13:11] <McBag> 1st time
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#911 [13:12] <DataWizard> Ah. Well you have control over the server's network, correct?
#912 [13:12] <austin> waht is the command for testing your server again?
#913 [13:12] <McBag> I only rent it
#914 [13:13] <DataWizard> Okay, well do you know if the proper ports are open?
#915 [13:13] <McBag> I'm only a user of many, not the owner
#916 [13:13] <McBag> the used code is open
#917 [13:13] <McBag> definitely
#918 [13:13] <DataWizard> The used port, you mean?
#919 [13:13] <McBag> ehm
#920 [13:13] <McBag> sure
#921 [13:14] <SlashLife> If you start Minecraft on *127.0.0.1* then you shouldn't be capable to connect to it from another computer.
#922 [13:14] <McBag> right
#923 [13:14] <SlashLife> Oh, you've already gone over that.
#924 [13:15] <McBag> as I said
#925 [13:15] <DataWizard> Did you unblock port 25565(or what ever it is)?
#926 [13:15] <SlashLife> If you start the Minecraft server ... etc. see above.
#927 [13:15] <McBag> you can connect via teamviewer to the server
#928 [13:15] <SlashLife> Not the client. x)
#929 [13:15] <McBag> standard-port isn't open
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#931 [13:15] <SlashLife> If the standard port isn't open ...
#932 [13:15] <McBag> so I used 22063
#933 [13:15] <DataWizard> So you're using an alternate port?
#934 [13:16] <SlashLife> ... why is another one open?
#935 [13:16] <SlashLife> Or how do you know that that one is open?
#936 [13:16] <McBag> It's a torrent port
#937 [13:16] <DataWizard> Okay, well when you connect with the client, do you include the port after the ip?
#938 [13:16] <McBag> I have 100mbit-speeds so it should be ok
#939 [13:16] <McBag> yes
#940 [13:16] <SlashLife> Wouldn't a torrent port rather be closed than another one?
#941 [13:16] <McBag> no
#942 [13:16] <McBag> it's open
#943 [13:17] <McBag> trust me in that case
#944 [13:17] <SlashLife> And where's the torrent running now? O_o
#945 [13:17] <McBag> I know what I'm doing
#946 [13:17] <austin> try typing localhost instead of your IP in the multiplayer box, i dont think you can connect on the same IP as the one your using your server with
#947 [13:17] <McBag> I shut it down to use minecraft
#948 [13:17] <DataWizard> Okay, so the ports are correct you say. Is there a firewall?
#949 [13:17] <SlashLife> Believe me: I've heard that many times from people needing help. And unfortunately more often than not they were wrong. ;/
#950 [13:17] <McBag> I'm not :D
#951 [13:17] <SlashLife> austin: That's bollocks.
#952 [13:18] <DataWizard> Austin, you can, but he can't run Minecraft client locally due to lack of graphics card on server.
#953 [13:18] <McBag> Success: I can see your service on xxx.xxx.xxx. on port (22063)
#954 [13:18] <SlashLife> austin: Typing "localhost" is just a fancy form of typing "127.0.0.1"
#955 [13:18] <austin> oh okay
#956 [13:18] <McBag> utorrent also says it's opened
#957 [13:18] <austin> Does anyone mind testing my server for me?
#958 [13:18] <McBag> and it is
#959 [13:18] <McBag> I'm connectable
#960 [13:18] <SlashLife> Technically "localhost" and "google.com" are the same thing: A phone book entry for an IP.
#961 [13:18] <DataWizard> So he's connecting it across e Internet,
#962 [13:19] <McBag> so what should I try next?
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#964 [13:20] <DataWizard> All I can think of are port mismatches/blocks and firewalls.
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#966 [13:20] <McBag> port is ok. firewall of
#967 [13:20] <McBag> But I don't know the settings of the router
#968 [13:20] <DataWizard> Also, does the server's host know you're running MC? Alot of hosts might block common gaming ports.
#969 [13:20] <austin> is the port opened in your router?
#970 [13:20] <DataWizard> Its not his router.
#971 [13:21] <austin> Okay, what about modem? I had to unblock it in mine
#972 [13:21] <DataWizard> He's using remote desktop to control a VPS over the Internet.
#973 [13:21] <austin> Oh okay
#974 [13:21] <DataWizard> I would try to inject, but I'm actually on my iPad right now. =P
#975 [13:21] <DataWizard> *connect
#976 [13:22] <SlashLife> DataWizard: If you explain to me how, I can fill in there.
#977 [13:22] <SlashLife> Oh. "connect" sounds a lot les intrusive. :D
#978 [13:22] <SlashLife> *less
#979 [13:22] * SlashLife thought about using telnet to connect to a MC server. x)
#979 [13:22] <DataWizard> XD
#980 [13:23] <ThePhail> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=271488
#981 [13:24] <austin> Can someone test my server? please?
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#983 [13:25] <DataWizard> Can't wait for that iOS version of Minecraft.
#984 [13:26] <SlashLife> Yeah, that'll be great.
#985 [13:26] <xXenon199> anyone know how to or where to find the dogs, ive been walking for days....
#986 [13:26] <SlashLife> Then the bf of that cute girl won't even notice that she leaves for good. >:]
#987 [13:26] <austin> in a tundra biome... i think. I found two there
#988 [13:26] <xXenon199> i was there lol
#989 [13:26] <xXenon199> couldnt find em
#990 [13:26] <austin> lol
#991 [13:26] <SlashLife> xXenon199: They are extremely rare.
#992 [13:27] <SlashLife> Not tundra btw.
#993 [13:27] <SlashLife> Taiga and forest.
#994 [13:27] <xXenon199> well so was lugia, but i caught him
#995 [13:27] <xXenon199> lol
#996 [13:27] <SlashLife> Doesn't matter whether with or without snow; just look for LOADS of trees ...
#997 [13:27] <xXenon199> ok
#998 [13:27] <SlashLife> ... and make sure you're not wasting your time in a rain forest. x)
#999 [13:27] <xXenon199> ok
#1000 [13:27] <xXenon199> lol
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#1007 [13:58] <DataWizard> Anyone here need help?
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#1009 [13:58] <McBag> yes me^^
#1010 [13:59] <DataWizard> Oh, same problem as before?
#1011 [14:00] <McBag> yepp
#1012 [14:00] <DataWizard> Hmm.
#1013 [14:01] <DataWizard> Okay, well are you using the GUI with the server?
#1014 [14:01] <McBag> right
#1015 [14:01] <McBag> so yes
#1016 [14:01] <DataWizard> It says its online and such? Try a few commands, like help
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#1018 [14:03] <DataWizard> Then, go into the server's World folder and see if there's anything in the Player folder inside that.
#1019 [14:04] <McBag> help works
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#1021 [14:04] <McBag> so should I now go to %appdata%?
#1022 [14:05] <McBag> no
#1023 [14:05] <McBag> world
#1024 [14:05] <McBag> level.dat
#1025 [14:05] <McBag> etc
#1026 [14:05] <McBag> session.lock
#1027 [14:05] <McBag> region
#1028 [14:05] <McBag> players
#1029 [14:05] <greggles> Quick question. I purchased the game months ago, setup everything (and then forgot about it due to family issues) I redownloaded it, but it will not let me play at all. Keeps telling me "User not Premium."
#1030 [14:05] <McBag> level.dat_old
#1031 [14:06] <McBag> that's it
#1032 [14:07] <oldtopmanserver> greggles: Wrong username I presume
#1033 [14:08] <Kealper> greggles: are you sure you have the correct username?
#1034 [14:08] <Kealper> dangit lol
#1035 [14:08] <McBag> anything else O
#1036 [14:08] <greggles> That is what I am double checking.
#1037 [14:08] <McBag> I could try?
#1038 [14:09] <Kealper> greggles: and if you are using the correct account, check to make sure paypal did not reverse the payment
#1039 [14:10] <greggles> Got it
#1040 [14:10] <greggles> Wrong username, thank you.
#1041 [14:10] <Kealper> well, atleast it was not something serious lol
#1042 [14:10] <Imgor> end of stream when i try to connect to sincraft, help please
#1043 [14:10] <McBag> i have this too
#1044 [14:10] <Kealper> Imgor: has it ever worked?
#1045 [14:11] <Imgor> yes
#1046 [14:11] <Imgor> yesterday
#1047 [14:11] <Kealper> have you tried any other servers?
#1048 [14:11] <McBag> all my troubles seemed so faar away xD
#1049 [14:11] <Imgor> Not realy
#1050 [14:11] <Imgor> I can try now
#1051 [14:11] <Kealper> McBag: +1 for beatles reference
#1052 [14:11] <McBag> ;)
#1053 [14:14] <Imgor> kealper, other servers work
#1054 [14:14] <Kealper> Imgor: is it your server that has the issue? or someone else's?
#1055 [14:15] <Imgor> someone else's, sincraft
#1056 [14:15] <Lish> ew
#1057 [14:15] <Imgor> if you ever heard of
#1058 [14:15] <Lish> Tell Thod his only female friend says hi
#1059 [14:15] <Kealper> owned lol
#1060 [14:15] <Shadow386> Kealper
#1061 [14:15] <Imgor> I will, when I fix this problem
#1062 [14:15] <Shadow386> where is your firstborn?
#1063 [14:15] <Shadow386> You promised
#1064 [14:16] <Kealper> Shadow386: that'd be dividing by zero if i told you :o
#1065 [14:16] <Shadow386> God dammit Kealper, I told you not to hide it from me D:<
#1066 [14:16] <Shadow386> now you shall suffferr >:O
#1067 [14:17] <Kealper> hmm.... well... Imgor if it's just happening on that specific server....
#1068 [14:17] <Kealper> it sounds like there might be a problem between you and the server :/
#1069 [14:18] <Imgor> :(
#1070 [14:18] <Imgor> Thats wierd since I played on it yesterday
#1071 [14:18] <Kealper> and since it was working fine yesterday for you, it's probably something like a car hit a utility pole somewhere or something....
#1072 [14:18] <Imgor> damn cars...
#1073 [14:18] <Lish> also, hello Kealper :)
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#1075 [14:19] <Kealper> i'd say wait it out, if it is still messed up tomorrow, you might have to start yelling at your ISP to get their butts out there and fix it lol
#1076 [14:19] <Kealper> ello Lish
#1077 [14:19] <SCFB42> Hello
#1078 [14:19] <SCFB42> Is this the right place to ask for help? XD;
#1079 [14:19] <Kealper> this is called #minecrafthelp lol
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#1082 [14:20] <SCFB42> Good point XD;
#1083 [14:20] <Imgor> Thank you for the help kealper!:D
#1084 [14:20] <SCFB42> XD
#1085 [14:20] <Kealper> i was just listening to the weirdest Jamaican Dubstep ever
#1086 [14:21] <SCFB42> Actually I've been having trouble with my fort :/
#1087 [14:21] <Kealper> O.o
#1088 [14:21] <SCFB42> I've build this underground fortress in a natural cave. But for some reason i'm failing at lighting it properly
#1089 [14:21] <SCFB42> Monsters keep spawning inside :/
#1090 [14:21] <Kealper> are you spamming torches everywhere?
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#1092 [14:22] <SCFB42> No, I'm trying to like, make it look good. So I'm putting all my torches behind glass
#1093 [14:22] <Kealper> if you want to be paranoid about it, have them no more than like 8 blocks away from eachother
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#1095 [14:23] <SCFB42> Hmmmm, well I do plant a lot of torches. And like, most of the time it works
#1096 [14:23] <SCFB42> But for some reason there's areas where they keep spawning, even though it looks to me like they're well-lit
#1097 [14:24] <SCFB42> hold on, I'll get a screenshot of one of the trouble areas
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#1099 [14:27] <SCFB42> http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5261/20110408202510.jpg
#1100 [14:27] <SCFB42> I'm actually wondering if it's like, can mobs spawn on ceiling squares and then fall down?
#1101 [14:31] <SCFB42> It's just gotten me frustrated to the point of giving up on the game :/ I keep adding in more light and the area just looks lit to me. But mobs still spawn......
#1102 [14:31] <SCFB42> I've actually looked around to see if there's some kind of app that shows which tiles are lit enough, but no dice apparantly :/
#1103 [14:31] <Kealper> yeah, there are spots in there that are rather dark
#1104 [14:32] <Kealper> in that image
#1105 [14:32] <SCFB42> Hmmmm, like where?
#1106 [14:32] <SCFB42> It could just be that I'm bad at spotting them..... :(
#1107 [14:32] <Kealper> well, in that hallway thing in the lower right, it looks like that is a bit dark
#1108 [14:33] <Jmancino2> is it connected to anything else dark? monsters will travel toward you...
#1109 [14:33] <Jmancino2> put up some doors, maybe :)
#1110 [14:33] <Kealper> what he said, too
#1111 [14:34] <Kealper> monsters could be spawning in unlit areas and walking into the light
#1112 [14:35] <SCFB42> here's a close-up of that hallway
#1113 [14:35] <SCFB42> http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/646/20110408203349.jpg
#1114 [14:35] <SCFB42> And I've locked off all entrances with doors
#1115 [14:35] <Jmancino2> oh sorry I just got here :)
#1116 [14:35] <SCFB42> iron ones
#1117 [14:36] <SCFB42> And I allways find the mobs here in this area
#1118 [14:36] <Jmancino2> it doesn't look like a lot of torches
#1119 [14:36] <Jmancino2> more torches!
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#1121 [14:37] <Mandreas> with the new update, is there supposed to be wolves?
#1122 [14:37] <SCFB42> There's already torches like, every five blocks from each other :\
#1123 [14:37] <Kealper> yes Mandreas
#1124 [14:37] <Kealper> they are just rather hard to catch
#1125 [14:38] <Mandreas> SWEET! how do I catch them and where?
#1126 [14:38] <Kealper> you usually find them in tundras and forests, and you just give them bones until they love you
#1127 [14:40] <SCFB42> Ah well, so the consensus is I'm just not using enough torches somehow? :/ I really wish there was some easier way to figure out which parts aren't lit enough......
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#1129 [14:41] <SCFB42> I mean it's a bit hard to see on the screenshots, but I've added in a 'light' (a torch behind a glass panel) in like every spot on the wall, ceiling or floor where there's room
#1130 [14:41] <Jmancino2> huh...maybe it's the glass messing w/it
#1131 [14:42] <Jmancino2> I mean the glass does dim the light a little bit, right? maybe it's just wrong ...somehow :)
#1132 [14:42] <DataWizard> What are you trying to doL
#1133 [14:42] <Kealper> i don't think it does
#1134 [14:42] <DataWizard> *do?
#1135 [14:42] <xolotl> Jmancino2: Glass doesn't dim the light
#1136 [14:42] <SCFB42> I don't think it dims it. It does make the light a bit less, because it's basically in an alcove one block inside the wall/ceiling/floor
#1137 [14:42] <xolotl> Jmancino2: The problem's more that your torch is recessed two extra blocks away from where it would be if it were just on the wall where the torch is
#1138 [14:43] <Kealper> my idea is just that it's not enough light in the center of rooms
#1139 [14:43] <Jmancino2> yeah, I agree...more torches :)
#1140 [14:43] <xolotl> Jmancino2: So the torch in the recess isn't as efficient at lighting.
#1141 [14:43] <Jmancino2> that makes sense, as well as it makes sense glass shouldn't mess with the light :)
#1142 [14:43] <SCFB42> @DataWizard I'm just trying to light my underground fortress using lights that are prettier then just planting a torch everywhere. But in some spots I can't get enough to keep mbos out :/
#1143 [14:43] <Jmancino2> maybe put some glass bottom lights in the floor?
#1144 [14:44] <Jmancino2> well, glass topped lights in the bottom of the floor...(more torches) :D
#1145 [14:44] <SCFB42> Yes, already doing that
#1146 [14:44] <Jmancino2> that'd be slick, actually
#1147 [14:44] <DataWizard> SCFB42: What I do it dig a 2 block deep hole, put in some glowstone, and then cover that flush with the floor using glass.
#1148 [14:44] * Jmancino2 makes notes
#1148 [14:44] <Kealper> i've done that before, it looks pretty nice
#1149 [14:44] <xolotl> Man, I'm looking forward to when Nether works in SMP, so I can get my hands on glowstone
#1150 [14:45] <xolotl> (yes, I know I could cheat or whatever)
#1151 [14:45] <DataWizard> Touches work nicely if you can't get glowstone. Or lava.
#1152 [14:45] <SCFB42> Well, the problem is I'm on a server. So I don't have unlimited glowstone
#1153 [14:45] <Kealper> lava under glass in the floors looks nice, too lol
#1154 [14:45] <DataWizard> Ask an op for some.
#1155 [14:45] <SCFB42> I am the op, point is me and my friends agreed to no free resources when we made the server X3
#1156 [14:46] <xolotl> I'm also fond of drilling skylights
#1157 [14:46] <SCFB42> Actually, -I- am the one who insisted on that room XD
#1158 [14:46] <SCFB42> rule*
#1159 [14:46] <xolotl> Though that may not be practical in many circumstances, and doesn't help at night, of course.
#1160 [14:46] <DataWizard> Well there are many mods that let you enable Nether in SMP.
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#1162 [14:46] <xolotl> DataWizard: Yeah, I don't use mods though
#1163 [14:46] <Kealper> i play without cheating items on my server unless i'm building community-oriented things :/
#1164 [14:47] <xolotl> DataWizard: I'm not complaining about it, mind. Just looking forward to when it works. :)
#1165 [14:47] <xolotl> I do cheat to get tools
#1166 [14:47] <SCFB42> Hmmmmmm
#1167 [14:47] <xolotl> I got too used to the drop-the-tool-to-fix-it bug in SMP, way back when
#1168 [14:47] <xolotl> And freshly annoyed and chewing through even diamond tools so quickly
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#1170 [14:47] <Kealper> SCFB42: my suggestion is to do that same recessed lighting in the floor as you do in the walls
#1171 [14:47] <xolotl> So I grew to not mind /giving tools
#1172 [14:48] <SCFB42> @Kealper I already do that, and in the ceilings
#1173 [14:48] <DataWizard> Only server we have a "Builder" class that can use give. Its earned by making something epic/impressive/useful.
#1174 [14:48] <SCFB42> Maybe doesn't show on screenshot, but they're there
#1175 [14:48] <SCFB42> Whereever is room
#1176 [14:48] <DataWizard> *on my
#1177 [14:48] <SCFB42> Problem is when there's rooms beneath, above, or behind walls so there's not always room
#1178 [14:48] <SCFB42> Anyways I guess I'll just have to rethink the lighting scheme. Is there any program that can show you the ligthing value of tiles though? Would help hugely to figure out where the holes are....
#1179 [14:48] <Kealper> not that i know of, but i'm sure there is a client mod that does it
#1180 [14:49] <xolotl> Possibly MCEdit could tell you
#1181 [14:49] <DataWizard> But I can understand wanting to play legit. I feel that way too sometimes.
#1182 [14:49] <Kealper> my entire house in smp is totally legit :o
#1183 [14:50] <Kealper> including the entire chest of iron ingots lol
#1184 [14:50] <SCFB42> Hmmmmm, can MCEdit really give you that information? *googling it but it doesn;t look like it does*
#1185 [14:51] <xolotl> It does show you data values of selected blocks, etc
#1186 [14:51] <xolotl> I'll check, I suppose
#1187 [14:52] <Morrolan> Xolotl: It does? Never stumbled across that feature.
#1188 [14:53] <SCFB42> Hmmmm, from some of the screenshots it looks like it does.....
#1189 [14:53] <xolotl> Morrolan: Yeah, if you hold down Alt while a block is selected, the first line will be (for instance) "Pine Leaves (18:1)"
#1190 [14:53] <xolotl> Morrolan: 18 being the block ID, and 1 being the data value
#1191 [14:54] <xolotl> But I actually don't see the light level there, so I guess it probably doesn't do that
#1192 [14:54] <SCFB42> http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3113/crane2.jpg
#1193 [14:54] <SCFB42> but on this screenshot.....
#1194 [14:54] <Morrolan> Xolotl: Oh, turns out I'm using an old version, that explains it I guess. :D
#1195 [14:56] <xolotl> Yeah, I dunno. The underlying library (pymclevel) can read lighting levels, of course; could be that the info dialog thing has just changed
#1196 [14:56] <xolotl> Might be worth sending in an RFE
#1197 [14:56] * xolotl wishes once again that MCEdit was open-source
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#1202 [15:07] <SCFB42> Hmmmm ok, in MCEdit, now to figure out how to get the lighting levels to show.....
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#1204 [15:10] <Morrolan> Tell us if you find out. :)
#1205 [15:10] <SCFB42> not having much succes t.t
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#1207 [15:12] <jayms> I am having trouble running Minecraft on my Windows XP machine. I've updated to the latest java but when i try running it (download version) after logging in it just goes to a black screen.
#1208 [15:12] <jayms> running from Minecraft.exe (either of the 2 supplied on minecraft.net)
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#1210 [15:18] <SCFB42> sigh.... looks like a no on MCEdit t.t
#1211 [15:18] <SCFB42> any other programs?
#1212 [15:19] <DataWizard> Jayms, do you have any mods installed?
#1213 [15:19] <jayms> DataWizard: no, i have never been able to get Minecraft to run on this machine
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#1215 [15:20] <DataWizard> Hmm, do you have the latest version of Java installed?
#1216 [15:20] <jayms> yes
#1217 [15:20] <jayms> Version 6 Update 24
#1218 [15:21] <DataWizard> And this is a fresh copy of 1.4?
#1219 [15:21] <jayms> DataWizard: correct
#1220 [15:22] <DataWizard> Hmm, I've never heard of Black Screening for reasons other than faulty mods. Perhaps the .jar is corrupt? Have you tried reinstalling MC using the Force Uptade feature?
#1221 [15:23] <jayms> trying that now
#1222 [15:23] <jayms> same thing as soon as the update finishes, black screen
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#1224 [15:24] <Kealper> i think i'm going to change the name of my texture pack...lol
#1225 [15:24] <jayms> i normally run minecraft on ubuntu, the first time i installed it on this Windows XP box (it was versino 1.3 then) i had this same issue and haven't tried to figure out the problem until now
#1226 [15:25] <Kealper> jayms: it runs minecraft fine under ubuntu?
#1227 [15:25] <Kealper> it being that same machine
#1228 [15:25] <jayms> different machine
#1229 [15:25] <jayms> but its perfectly capable of running minecraft
#1230 [15:25] <Kealper> oh, what are the specs of that machine?
#1231 [15:26] <jayms> Intel E7400 4gb Ram
#1232 [15:26] <Kealper> that's the one that can't run it?
#1233 [15:26] <Kealper> well, doesn't run it
#1234 [15:26] <jayms> well doesn't
#1235 [15:26] <jayms> yes
#1236 [15:26] <Kealper> hmm...
#1237 [15:26] <jayms> black screen as soon as i hit login
#1238 [15:27] <Kealper> you say you use ubuntu, is it safe to assume you know your way around windows? lol
#1239 [15:27] <jayms> yes
#1240 [15:27] <DataWizard> Do you have SP3 installed? Also, any unusually/atypical background processes that could be interfering?
#1241 [15:27] <jayms> fully updated\
#1242 [15:27] <Kealper> and is does it work in the browser?
#1243 [15:27] <Kealper> wow, english fail
#1244 [15:28] <DataWizard> Ah, good question.
#1245 [15:28] <SCFB42> ah, woohooo
#1246 [15:28] <SCFB42> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=185106
#1247 [15:28] <SCFB42> this works
#1248 [15:28] <SCFB42> think I've found the hole <3
#1249 [15:28] <Kealper> if it doesn't run in the browser, the browser version can still help debug the issue
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#1251 [15:30] <SCFB42> someone tell notch to add that into minecraft proper btw
#1252 [15:30] <Kealper> lol
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#1254 [15:30] <DataWizard> Add what?
#1255 [15:30] <SCFB42> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=185106
#1256 [15:30] <jayms> yes it loads in the browser
#1257 [15:31] <jayms> but it freezes up after a few minutes
#1258 [15:31] <SCFB42> just have a toggle where if you press f4 it shows the light level
#1259 [15:32] <Kealper> jayms: ok, see the java icon in your system tray?
#1260 [15:35] <jayms> Kealper: it does not go to the tray
#1261 [15:35] <jayms> oh maybe if im in browser mode if thats what you mean hold on
#1262 [15:36] <Kealper> SCFB42: you could send jeb a tweet to have the light level of the block you are standing on in F3
#1263 [15:36] <Kealper> jayms: yeah, it shows down there if you are in the browser version
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#1265 [15:36] <jayms> yeah ok i got it now
#1266 [15:36] <Kealper> right click on it and select to open the console
#1267 [15:36] <McPlusPlus> [x10announcements] Explorer Emergency Maintenance - 2AM EST April 9th, 2011 (Anonymous) - Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:18:00 EDT
#1268 [15:37] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] 1/11/11 (Anonymous) - Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:06:55 +0200
#1269 [15:37] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] 1/11/11 (Anonymous) - Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:06:55 +0200
#1270 [15:37] <McPlusPlus> [Blog] A quick update.. (Anonymous) - Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:31:00 +0000
#1271 [15:37] <Kealper> the hell
#1272 [15:37] <jayms> Kealper: ok
#1273 [15:37] <g> bah
#1274 [15:37] <g> damn bot
#1275 [15:37] <Kealper> bot just had a massive corronary
#1276 [15:37] <g> keeps breaking
#1277 [15:37] <Kealper> lol
#1278 [15:37] <oldtopman> lol
#1279 [15:37] <g> it sent the incorrect feeds to the wrong channels
#1280 [15:37] <g> for some reason
#1281 [15:38] <jayms> Kealper: what am i looking for here
#1282 [15:38] <Kealper> jayms: copy and paste that stuff to http://pastebin.com
#1283 [15:38] <Kealper> then give the url in here
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#1285 [15:38] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] 1/11/11 (Anonymous) - Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:06:55 +0200
#1286 [15:38] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1287 [15:38] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.4_01 (Anonymous) - Tue, 05 Apr 2011 04:28:11 -0400
#1288 [15:38] <Kealper> O.o
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#1290 [15:38] <g> that's better
#1291 [15:38] <g> wait, crap
#1292 [15:38] <g> no it isn't
#1293 [15:39] <g> it didn't parse the x10 feed at all
#1294 [15:39] <jayms> http://pastebin.com/UGy3SdQF
#1295 [15:39] <Kealper> hmm...is this before or after it stops working?
#1296 [15:40] <jayms> hmm this is the browser version so
#1297 [15:40] <jayms> its still working
#1298 [15:40] <Kealper> oh....
#1299 [15:40] <jayms> when i run the exe
#1300 [15:40] <jayms> the java icon never come sup
#1301 [15:40] <Kealper> so the browser version works fine?
#1302 [15:40] <jayms> Kealper: last time i tried it it froze up on me after a few minutes
#1303 [15:40] <g> okay
#1304 [15:40] <g> that should do it
#1305 [15:40] <g> sorry for the spam, lol
#1306 [15:40] <Kealper> lol
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#1308 [15:40] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] 1/11/11 (Anonymous) - Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:06:55 +0200
#1309 [15:40] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1310 [15:40] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.4_01 (Anonymous) - Tue, 05 Apr 2011 04:28:11 -0400
#1311 [15:41] <g> yep
#1312 [15:41] <g> it parsed it
#1313 [15:41] <g> I set the wrong channels
#1314 [15:41] <g> but it parsed it
#1315 [15:41] <g> lol
#1316 [15:41] <g> last time, I promise :P
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#1318 [15:41] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] 1/11/11 (Anonymous) - Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:06:55 +0200
#1319 [15:41] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1320 [15:41] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.4_01 (Anonymous) - Tue, 05 Apr 2011 04:28:11 -0400
#1321 [15:41] <Kealper> jayms: hmm...i could tell you how to launch the downloaded one like the browser is launching it
#1322 [15:42] <g> alright
#1323 [15:42] <g> done
#1324 [15:42] <g> thanks for the patience :P
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#1326 [15:42] <Kealper> but for now...i'm curious as to what error it's getting...so.....ever used a .bat file before? lol
#1327 [15:45] <aetherian> .Chiroptera
#1328 [15:45] <Kealper> wut
#1329 [15:45] <aetherian> (eh heh heh)
#1330 [15:45] <jayms> Kealper: yea sure
#1331 [15:46] <g> aretporihC.
#1332 [15:46] <aetherian> Kealper: bats are of the Order Chiroptera
#1333 [15:46] <DataWizard> Just use a command prompt to execute it and it should print out the error, that is, if its and error and not a loop.
#1334 [15:46] <jayms> i just tried one thing though Kealper
#1335 [15:46] <aetherian> :D
#1336 [15:46] <jayms> i had the browser version going
#1337 [15:46] <jayms> and ran the .exe with the console still open
#1338 [15:46] <jayms> and it never output anything to the console
#1339 [15:46] <DataWizard> *and error
#1340 [15:46] <Kealper> different instance of java, it wouldn't work for that
#1341 [15:47] <jayms> ok
#1342 [15:47] <Kealper> !client download the .jar file that AuBot is about to link
#1343 [15:47] <Kealper> when you get that downloaded, move it to it's own folder
#1344 [15:48] <Kealper> and then say when you're done with that
#1345 [15:48] <jayms> oh snap i right clicked it and did 'open with java runtime etc'
#1346 [15:48] <jayms> and i hit login
#1347 [15:49] <jayms> and it showed the Mojang logo (further than its gotten before)
#1348 [15:49] <jayms> then crashed
#1349 [15:49] <jayms> and made a log file
#1350 [15:49] <jayms> http://pastebin.com/B2MMbtEk
#1351 [15:49] <McPlusPlus> "# # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXC - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
#1352 [15:49] <oldtopman> g: Your bot asploded again
#1353 [15:49] <Kealper> uninstall and reinstall Java
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#1355 [15:49] <g> oh right
#1356 [15:49] <Kealper> oldtopman: it read the title of the url
#1357 [15:50] <g> ~stfu
#1358 [15:50] <g> there
#1359 [15:50] <oldtopman> g: Ah.
#1360 [15:50] <g> it's a link parser
#1361 [15:50] * g shrugs
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#1362 [15:58] <jayms> Kealper: ok i uninstalled, rebooted, and reinstalled java
#1363 [15:58] <jayms> same issue
#1364 [15:59] <jayms> oh wait hmm
#1365 [15:59] <jayms> if i right click the jar and do 'open with java binary'
#1366 [15:59] <jayms> it works
#1367 [15:59] <Kealper> make a new text document in the same folder as that minecraft.jar
#1368 [16:00] <Kealper> rename it to "start.bat"
#1369 [16:00] <Kealper> it's icon should cange to a thing with a gear on it
#1370 [16:00] <jayms> yar
#1371 [16:00] <Kealper> right click it, select Edit
#1372 [16:01] <Kealper> put this in it and save it, then run it
#1373 [16:01] <Kealper> java -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -Dsun.awt.noerasebackground=true -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dsun.java2d.pmoffscreen=false -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
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#1375 [16:03] <g> Am I the only one who sees the irony in this picture:
#1376 [16:03] <g> http://i.imgur.com/UqVyT.png
#1377 [16:03] <g> :P
#1378 [16:03] <SCFB42> X3;
#1379 [16:03] <Kealper> XD
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#1381 [16:04] <jayms> Kealper: cool thanks
#1382 [16:04] <g> modelling pedobear hat
#1383 [16:04] <jayms> wonder why the damn exe doesn't work though?
#1384 [16:04] <g> xD
#1385 [16:04] <SCFB42> Well I think I've fixed it. Was a lot of tiny nooks and cranies that had 7 lighting, just enough to let mobs spawn
#1386 [16:04] <SCFB42> Bye guys, thanks all!
#1387 [16:04] <Kealper> jayms: the exe runs it with different parameters than the browser does, what i gave you was the parameters that the browser runs it with
#1388 [16:05] <Kealper> SCFB42: told ya it wasn't enough torches :P
#1389 [16:05] * Kealper renames his texture pack to Kwandary
#1389 [16:05] <aetherian> aww, widdle kwandary
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#1391 [16:06] <g> xD
#1392 [16:06] <g> oh come on
#1393 [16:06] <g> http://i.imgur.com/4jWYL.png
#1394 [16:06] <g> lol
#1395 [16:07] <Kealper> i call bullcrap, if any group of people know about that bear, it'd be the Japanese >.>
#1396 [16:07] <g> orly
#1397 [16:07] <Kealper> knew*
#1398 [16:07] <g> ~speak
#1399 [16:07] <g> http://www.catchkuma.com/products/kuma-pedobear-plush-hat
#1400 [16:07] <g> ~stfu
#1401 [16:07] <g> blah
#1402 [16:07] <Kealper> lol
#1403 [16:07] <g> it didn't parse it
#1404 [16:07] <g> lol
#1405 [16:08] <jayms> Kealper: thanks
#1406 [16:08] <g> I'd say it's more like
#1407 [16:08] <g> "lol I just work here"
#1408 [16:08] <aetherian> heh
#1409 [16:09] <g> there's also this
#1410 [16:09] <g> http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/pedobear-is-officially-miley-cyruss-1-fan-cci
#1411 [16:09] <g> :P
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#1413 [16:12] <oldtopman> g: Nice
#1414 [16:12] <aetherian> heh, the pokeball mod looks pretty funny
#1415 [16:13] <g> :P
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#1420 [16:17] <mib_xvdrw8> Hi
#1421 [16:17] <Kealper> hi
#1422 [16:17] <mib_xvdrw8> how i can download the newest server?
#1423 [16:17] <Kealper> for which? beta or classic?
#1424 [16:17] <mib_xvdrw8> errr
#1425 [16:17] <mib_xvdrw8> beta
#1426 [16:17] <Kealper> !server
#1427 [16:17] <Kealper> that lol
#1428 [16:17] <mib_xvdrw8> THANKS =)
#1429 [16:19] <mib_xvdrw8> ehm
#1430 [16:19] <mib_xvdrw8> Kealper
#1431 [16:19] <Kealper> hmm?
#1432 [16:19] <mib_xvdrw8> what this server do there?
#1433 [16:19] <mib_xvdrw8> Generating new properties file
#1434 [16:19] <mib_xvdrw8> but
#1435 [16:20] <mib_xvdrw8> doesent see progress
#1436 [16:20] <Kealper> it should generate all the files it needs, and then start loading a new world
#1437 [16:20] <mib_xvdrw8> hm, how long it take?
#1438 [16:21] <Kealper> not too long, it should be started in less than a minute
#1439 [16:21] <mib_xvdrw8> hm
#1440 [16:22] <mib_xvdrw8> there all time the same "at jt. a(sourcefile:29)" and "at jt. b(sourcefile 37)"
#1441 [16:22] <Kealper> O.o
#1442 [16:23] <mib_xvdrw8> sure its the new version?
#1443 [16:23] <Kealper> can you copy the whole text and put it to http://pastebin.com
#1444 [16:23] <Kealper> yes, that link is always the latest version
#1445 [16:24] <mib_xvdrw8> its hard to copy
#1446 [16:24] <Kealper> does it keep spamming it?
#1447 [16:24] <mib_xvdrw8> because its all 0,1 sec a new thing
#1448 [16:24] <mib_xvdrw8> jep
#1449 [16:24] <Kealper> oh my
#1450 [16:24] <Kealper> uhh..close out of the server, that's not a good thing
#1451 [16:24] <mib_xvdrw8> should i cancel?
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#1454 [16:25] <mib_xvdrw8> ok
#1455 [16:25] <Kealper> did you just run it from where it downloaded to?
#1456 [16:25] <mib_xvdrw8> yes
#1457 [16:25] <mib_xvdrw8> no feedback
#1458 [16:25] <mib_xvdrw8> now..
#1459 [16:26] <Kealper> move it to it's own folder, because it makes a bunch of files
#1460 [16:26] <mib_xvdrw8> ok
#1461 [16:26] <Kealper> is it moved?
#1462 [16:26] <mib_xvdrw8> wait
#1463 [16:26] <mib_xvdrw8> have to finde folder ^^
#1464 [16:27] <Kealper> oh lol
#1465 [16:27] <mib_xvdrw8> ok done
#1466 [16:27] <mib_xvdrw8> could i try now?
#1467 [16:27] <Kealper> well, it's easiest to just make a folder called "Minecraft Server" inside your documents folder and have it in there, so you always know where it is
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#1469 [16:27] <Kealper> yes, try again
#1470 [16:28] <mib_xvdrw8> no spamming now
#1471 [16:28] <mib_xvdrw8> but
#1472 [16:28] <mib_xvdrw8> no generating too ^^
#1473 [16:28] <Kealper> it's just not doing anything?
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#1475 [16:28] <Kealper> try connecting to the address "127.0.0.1
#1476 [16:28] <rehevol> register
#1477 [16:28] <mib_xvdrw8> ahhh ok it does, the last sentence was hide
#1478 [16:29] <Kealper> rehevol: wut
#1479 [16:29] <rehevol> someone help me to register pls
#1480 [16:29] <Kealper> rehevol: to talk in #minecraft?
#1481 [16:29] <rehevol> ye
#1482 [16:29] <mib_xvdrw8> kealper thanks a lot =)) ♥
#1483 [16:29] <Kealper> rehevol: type /msg nickserv help register
#1484 [16:29] <rehevol> still
#1485 [16:29] <rehevol> says i cant talk in channel
#1486 [16:29] <Kealper> mib_xvdrw8: if you have any other issues, just ask lol
#1487 [16:30] <Kealper> rehevol: did you follow what NickServ told you?
#1488 [16:30] <mib_xvdrw8> ok i do :DD
#1489 [16:30] <rehevol> yeah i typed what u said rofl
#1490 [16:30] <rehevol> still dont work
#1491 [16:30] <Kealper> rehevol: it should have told you how to register with it
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#1493 [16:34] <rehevol> shit dont work
#1494 [16:34] <rehevol> sys unknown command
#1495 [16:34] <rehevol> when i try it
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#1497 [16:35] <Kealper> /msg nickserv register your-password your-email-address
#1498 [16:35] <Kealper> replace those with the password you want, and with your email
#1499 [16:36] <Kealper> you should get an email right after typing that which contains instructions on how to confirm the registration
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#1502 [16:36] <Kealper> after doing what the email says, you will be able to talk
#1503 [16:36] <Kealper> bleh
#1504 [16:37] <titanduck> done, registered, confirmed and verified
#1505 [16:38] <Kealper> you should be able to talk in #minecraft now
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#1507 [16:40] <neviklink> hi
#1508 [16:40] <Kealper> hi
#1509 [16:40] <titanduck> hi
#1510 [16:40] <neviklink> can some1 help me make a monster spwner the version i am doing i need to dig alot
#1511 [16:40] <Kealper> i've never made one that worked so i don't really know how :/
#1512 [16:41] <neviklink> i am follwing one some1 put on u tube
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#1514 [16:42] * Kealper thinks he should make a tool to easily set up a server on windows
#1514 [16:42] <g> meh
#1515 [16:42] <g> too much work
#1516 [16:42] <g> too little gain
#1517 [16:42] <neviklink> so can sum1 help meeee
#1518 [16:43] <g> ??> neviklink ask
#1519 [16:43] <VoxelHead> neviklink: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1520 [16:43] <VoxelHead> neviklink: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1521 [16:43] <Kealper> g: he did ask
#1522 [16:43] <g> oh right
#1523 [16:43] <g> crap, sorry :P
#1524 [16:43] <neviklink> i need hands to make monster spwner
#1525 [16:44] <Kealper> i'd help but i'm working on a program, and i have no idea how to make a working spawner...redstone? i can do that in my sleep...mob spawner? never got one to work right
#1526 [16:44] <neviklink> wait nvm i meant a mob grinder
#1527 [16:44] <neviklink> stupid me
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#1529 [16:45] <Kealper> yeah, i knew you meant a grinder lol
#1530 [16:45] <Kealper> spawner and grinder can be used pretty interchangibly
#1531 [16:45] <neviklink> i have guide for one i just need help making it it takes awhile
#1532 [16:46] <mib_xvdrw8> hey kealper
#1533 [16:46] <mib_xvdrw8> one question
#1534 [16:46] <Kealper> yes mib_xvdrw8?
#1535 [16:46] <mib_xvdrw8> are wolves animals or monsters?
#1536 [16:46] <Kealper> animals
#1537 [16:47] <neviklink> technically couln't be both
#1538 [16:47] <mib_xvdrw8> so if i have monsters false they'll spawn?
#1539 [16:47] <Kealper> although they are normally neutral, they will defend themselves if you attack them
#1540 [16:47] <Kealper> yes, they spawn as animals
#1541 [16:47] <mib_xvdrw8> okay thanks
#1542 [16:49] <Kealper> wow...this server helper might actually be the first time that i've ever had a legitimate reason to use a loop-style GUI instead of an event-driven one
#1543 [16:49] <Kealper> i hate loop-style ones...but it'd be so much easier to make it that way :/
#1544 [16:52] <neviklink> what r u talking about
#1545 [16:52] <mib_xvdrw8> kealper... why i cant find some wolves ? =(
#1546 [16:52] <Kealper> mib_xvdrw8: they are quite hard to find
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#1548 [16:52] <neviklink> they spwn in forests and snow area
#1549 [16:52] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wolves
#1550 [16:52] <neviklink> go to the minecraft wiki
#1551 [16:52] <mib_xvdrw8> ok thnaks
#1552 [16:56] <titanduck> uhmm does anyone know how to install mods on minecraft mac version? im trying to install singleplayer commands
#1553 [16:57] <Kealper> you probably have to use the downloaded client instead of the browser one
#1554 [16:57] <titanduck> i am
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#1556 [16:57] <Kealper> oh, then it should have directions on how to install it
#1557 [16:57] <titanduck> the guide sais go to the minecraft bin
#1558 [16:57] <Kealper> oh
#1559 [16:58] <Kealper> easiest way is to just launch minecraft, go to Mods and Texture Packs, and click open folder
#1560 [16:58] <titanduck> but the download client is just a icon with the whole game
#1561 [16:58] <Kealper> then just go up one folder from there and go into the "bin" folder
#1562 [16:58] <titanduck> oh never tried that
#1563 [16:58] <g> %APPDATA%/.minecraft/bin
#1564 [16:58] <Kealper> after the folder is open, make sure to close minecraft
#1565 [16:58] <g> I think that still works on a mac
#1566 [16:58] <Kealper> g: mac
#1567 [16:58] <Kealper> O.o
#1568 [16:58] <Kealper> in a mac it is not even .minecraft
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#1570 [16:59] <g> it isn't?
#1571 [16:59] <g> lol
#1572 [16:59] <g> minecaft.app
#1573 [16:59] <titanduck> heh. app folder butten doesnt work
#1574 [16:59] <g> :P
#1575 [16:59] <Kealper> it's something like /home/application settings/i have no idea/minecraft/bin
#1576 [16:59] <g> xD
#1577 [16:59] <Kealper> last bit is correct though lol, other than that, i don't know where macs put it
#1578 [16:59] <g> bloody macs :P
#1579 [17:00] <titanduck> i just use spotlight
#1580 [17:00] <aetherian> Kealper: I thought it was /home/application settings/i have no idea/.minecraft/bin
#1581 [17:00] <aetherian> D:
#1582 [17:01] <Kealper> i don't know exactly where it is, but i know it's in there as /minecraft/ instead of /.minecraft/
#1583 [17:01] <titanduck> ok. there is no minecraft directory
#1584 [17:01] <aetherian> weird
#1585 [17:02] <Kealper> gimme a sec to grep my logs then...maybe it's been said before in these recent logs
#1586 [17:04] <titanduck> ooh i think i found a guide http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=189450
#1587 [17:06] <titanduck> Kealper you dont have to look through everything. im gonna follow this guide and hope for the best
#1588 [17:06] <Kealper> yeah, was just saying i think i broke grep with that log file lol
#1589 [17:07] <titanduck> who is greb and why did you you break him?
#1590 [17:07] <Kealper> grep is a program that searches for stuff inside things like log files and stuff
#1591 [17:08] <g> well no
#1592 [17:08] <g> grep searches for text in text
#1593 [17:08] <g> cat file.txt | grep "text to find"
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#1595 [17:10] <Kealper> i really suck at simplifying stuff
#1596 [17:10] <titanduck> heh
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#1598 [17:11] <titanduck> omg. i found the minecraft folder (it was hidden and had to open it useing the terminal) and i found a folder called archievements
#1599 [17:11] <titanduck> achievements* sorry
#1600 [17:11] <g> They're not implemented yet
#1601 [17:12] <titanduck> i know. but they are bringing it in. and i like that
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#1603 [17:13] <Mini201> Im having huge lag when i start up mine Minecraft
#1604 [17:13] <Mini201> Can somebody help?
#1605 [17:13] <titanduck> eh. there is a folder called art, and it contains a wierd picture
#1606 [17:14] <titanduck> Mini201: is it through the whole game or just the beginning?
#1607 [17:14] <Mini201> Whole game
#1608 [17:14] <titanduck> what are you running? mac? Windows? and what operating system?
#1609 [17:14] <Mini201> And it also makes my PC crash sometimes
#1610 [17:14] <Mini201> Windows vista 32 bit
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#1612 [17:15] <titanduck> i would recommend you start by downloading the newest java update as a starter
#1613 [17:15] <Mini201> Done that
#1614 [17:16] <titanduck> is it in single player or multiplayer?
#1615 [17:16] <Mini201> Single player
#1616 [17:16] <Mini201> I don't like SMP much...
#1617 [17:17] <titanduck> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=34831 try to follow these. they worked on my home pc
#1618 [17:17] <Mini201> AAh ok
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#1620 [17:21] <Mini201> I followed instructions and didn't help
#1621 [17:22] <Mini201> Now im like what i need to do....
#1622 [17:23] <Mini201> So can you help me more? Please?
#1623 [17:24] <Kealper> Mini201: has it ever worked correctly before?
#1624 [17:24] <Mini201> Yes
#1625 [17:24] <Mini201> It started laggin due beta 1.4_1
#1626 [17:24] <Kealper> what are you computer's specs?
#1627 [17:25] <Mini201> 1.6 GHZ dual, 2 GB ram , Windows vista 3s bit
#1628 [17:25] <Mini201> 32bit*
#1629 [17:25] <Kealper> netbook?
#1630 [17:25] <Mini201> ???
#1631 [17:25] <Kealper> (really tiny laptop)
#1632 [17:26] <Mini201> Nope
#1633 [17:26] <Mini201> Normal laptop
#1634 [17:26] <Kealper> hmm....1 sec
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#1636 [17:27] <Kealper> ??> Mini201 win/dxdiag
#1637 [17:27] <VoxelHead> Mini201: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1638 [17:27] <VoxelHead> Mini201: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#1640 [17:28] <CardboardBox> Hello, Is this where I ask for map making help?
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#1642 [17:28] <Kealper> map making? depends, what do you mean by that?
#1643 [17:29] <CardboardBox> a friend is requesting an island type map
#1644 [17:29] <CardboardBox> so i thought of making one
#1645 [17:29] <CardboardBox> But I'm not sure which editor works on beta anymore
#1646 [17:29] <Mini201> http://pastebin.com/8dsgLhec
#1647 [17:30] <Mini201> Heres the link http://pastebin.com/8dsgLhec
#1648 [17:30] <Kealper> CardboardBox: no idea, never tried with this new mcr format :/
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#1650 [17:30] <Mini201> Kealper: heres link http://pastebin.com/8dsgLhec
#1651 [17:30] <Kealper> Mini201: yes, i'm reading it right now lol
#1652 [17:31] <Kealper> well...
#1653 [17:31] <Kealper> that actually ran minecraft before 1.4_01? lol
#1654 [17:31] <Mini201> Yes
#1655 [17:32] <Kealper> did it run it..good?
#1656 [17:32] <Kealper> becuase that graphics chip is rather....underpowered :/
#1657 [17:32] <Mini201> On begingin was laag and then ran smootly...
#1658 [17:32] <Mini201> Ah ok.... ._.
#1659 [17:33] <Kealper> well...have you tried turning all graphics ingame down to lowest?
#1660 [17:33] <Mini201> Yes
#1661 [17:33] <titanduck> you run windows vista wit that?
#1662 [17:33] <Mini201> Yes
#1663 [17:34] <Kealper> render distance on tiny? graphics set to fast? smooth lighting disabled?
#1664 [17:34] <Mini201> Yup
#1665 [17:34] <Kealper> hmm...
#1666 [17:34] <titanduck> i would recommend a new computer :-p
#1667 [17:34] <Kealper> ?? win/profile
#1668 [17:34] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1669 [17:34] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1670 [17:34] <Mini201> I need to work whole summer for new pc =S
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#1672 [17:35] <Mini201> Ok....
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#1675 [17:36] <Mini201> Didn't work....
#1676 [17:36] <Mini201> Still lag
#1677 [17:36] <Mini201> And MC crashed when i took 3 steps... ._.
#1678 [17:36] <Kealper> hmm...
#1679 [17:38] <Kealper> are you playing in the browser or with the downloaded client?
#1680 [17:38] <Mini201> Downloaded
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#1682 [17:38] <Kealper> when it crashes, does it take you to a purple screen with a box that says "Minecraft has crashed!" or does it just close?
#1683 [17:39] <Mini201> It says Minecraft has crashed and after 1 second it ccloses
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#1685 [17:39] <Kealper> hmm....ok then play it in the browser, wait for it to say it crashed, and then tell me...but do not close out of the browser window, leave that open
#1686 [17:40] <Mini201> I don't trust really much on browser version...
#1687 [17:41] <Kealper> the browser version will make it easier to get the error message
#1688 [17:41] <Mini201> Ok....
#1689 [17:41] <Kealper> you don't have to play on it all the time, just this once, so i can tell you how to get the error it crashes with
#1690 [17:41] <Mini201> Then ill try...
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#1692 [17:41] <zombiepigcreeper> hello? :s
#1693 [17:41] <Kealper> ello
#1694 [17:42] <zombiepigcreeper> Oh, I can't talk to anybody on the minecraft irc, why? :s
#1695 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Dang computer wouldn't let me out of 1024x768 res
#1696 [17:42] <Kealper> .set mode GreyBot +o
#1697 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> You need to register your nick
#1698 [17:42] <Kealper> lol
#1699 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register email password
#1700 [17:42] <zombiepigcreeper> thanks :)
#1701 [17:42] <Kealper> other way around
#1702 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> er
#1703 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> DANGIT!
#1704 [17:43] <Kealper> /msg nickserv register password email
#1705 [17:43] <Kealper> :P
#1706 [17:43] <g> :P
#1707 [17:44] <Mini201> it dosn't crash just gives epic lag.....
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#1711 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> hey Kealper, did you see what zidonuke pasted in every MC irc channel last night?
#1712 [17:45] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: no, what?
#1713 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> http://pastie.org/pastes/1771060
#1714 [17:45] <xolotl> Kealper: It is truly ridiculous
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#1716 [17:46] <Kealper> LOL
#1717 [17:46] <Mini201> Aha.... i solved mine prob.... It was just lagging save file :s
#1718 [17:46] <Kealper> it means we actually seriously messed with him
#1719 [17:46] <Mini201> Sorry for wasting your time
#1720 [17:46] <Kealper> Mini201: oh, well then.....lol
#1721 [17:46] <Kealper> Mini201: it's alright, that's what we're here for :/
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#1723 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> So.. yeah.
#1724 [17:48] <Kealper> he's going a bit far with this, i must say
#1725 [17:49] <Kealper> either way.....think i should whitelist my server?
#1726 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Might be a good idea
#1727 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Jeb and notch and the crew have been informed of the server exploit
#1728 [17:50] <Kealper> my wrapper will restart it if it crashes, but if he is going to eventually release some version of that client that autonukes servers, that's a crapton of HDD reads that i'd rather not do
#1729 [17:50] <Kealper> if i had to take a guess
#1730 [17:50] <Kealper> it's probably just sending a massive, valid packet to the server
#1731 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Apparently, it's a massive packet spam containing primed TNT to the server
#1732 [17:51] <aetherian> Kealper: whitelist D:<
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#1734 [17:51] <aetherian> as in whitelists are bad, not as in telling you to
#1735 [17:51] <Kealper> wait, all it does is just tell the server that a ton of tnt was set off?
#1736 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1737 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Something like 90k primed TNT
#1738 [17:52] <Kealper> so then....a quick check to make sure the block hit is actually a unprimed tnt would fix it....
#1739 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> There's also another exploit with UTF that jeb already knows about.
#1740 [17:53] <Kealper> does it just send UTF-16 chars to the server or something? lol
#1741 [17:53] <lemon-rev> can someone tell me if google is working or is it playing up ?
#1742 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> !isdown google.com
#1743 [17:54] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://google.com is up.
#1744 [17:54] <lemon-rev> hm
#1745 [17:54] <lemon-rev> no not like that,
#1746 [17:54] <Kealper> works for me
#1747 [17:54] <lemon-rev> i just tryed it and its like just sitting there
#1748 [17:54] <lemon-rev> k
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#1751 [17:57] <lemon-rev> wow
#1752 [17:57] <lemon-rev> C:\Documents and Settings\crystal>ping google.com
#1753 [17:57] <lemon-rev> Pinging google.com [74.125.237.20] with 32 bytes of data:
#1754 [17:57] <lemon-rev> Reply from 10.10.11.1: TTL expired in transit.
#1755 [17:57] <lemon-rev> Reply from 10.10.11.1: TTL expired in transit.
#1756 [17:57] <lemon-rev> Reply from 10.10.11.1: TTL expired in transit.
#1757 [17:57] <lemon-rev> Reply from 10.10.11.1: TTL expired in transit.
#1758 [17:57] <lemon-rev> lol
#1759 [17:57] <lemon-rev> see that
#1760 [17:57] <lemon-rev> ?????
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#1764 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> 10.10..?
#1765 [17:59] <lemon-rev> 10.10.11.1 < i dont knwo
#1766 [17:59] <Kealper> your router sounds like it's messing up
#1767 [17:59] <lemon-rev> but its not pinging google correctly, or something wow
#1768 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> It's not even resolving google right.
#1769 [17:59] <lemon-rev> altavista.com < works just fine
#1770 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> It's giving a class A private ip range
#1771 [17:59] <lemon-rev> which ?
#1772 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> 10.x.y.z
#1773 [18:00] <lemon-rev> i supose, never gotten that ip before out of it
#1774 [18:00] <lemon-rev> Pinging altavista.com [206.190.60.37] with 32 bytes of data:
#1775 [18:00] <lemon-rev> Reply from 206.190.60.37: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=45
#1776 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> No, I mean, it's giving an invalid public ip address, 10.x.y.z is the same as your 192.168.x.y internal IP address
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#1778 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> I'd check your hosts file, flush your DNS
#1779 [18:01] <lemon-rev> kick the computer in the ass
#1780 [18:01] <lemon-rev> lol np, can do shortly :P
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#1787 [18:07] <Ryanrw1984> hello
#1788 [18:07] <lemon-rev> hi
#1789 [18:07] <Ryanrw1984> Is this where I can get help for my minecraft account.
#1790 [18:07] <lemon-rev> hm,
#1791 [18:07] <lemon-rev> whats the trouble
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#1793 [18:08] <Ryanrw1984> My brothers account is telling him he is no longer a premium member
#1794 [18:08] <lemon-rev> how long has this happend for ?
#1795 [18:08] <Ryanrw1984> just tried today, he just formatted his computer
#1796 [18:09] <Ryanrw1984> forgot his password so he went to reset it and now this
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#1798 [18:09] <lemon-rev> i think support@mojang.com < i think thats the support email you use for this type of things but yea cant do anything from here, we just help from game side
#1799 [18:10] <Ryanrw1984> ok
#1800 [18:10] <Ryanrw1984> thank you
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#1802 [18:11] <PeanutButter> When I press F3 in the game, how do I get rid of the CPU usage graph (which is covering the XYZ coordinates that I want)
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#1804 [18:12] <Kealper> if the graph at the bottom is going all the way to the top....
#1805 [18:12] <Kealper> that's probably not a good thing lol
#1806 [18:13] <lemon-rev> peanutbutter press f3 again, should stop it, but if not just dont press f3 again :P
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#1808 [18:14] <Kealper> i think what he is saying is that the frame time meter at the bottom of the screen in F3 mode is so high that it is covering up the other stuff at the top in F3 mode..the stuff he actually wants to see
#1809 [18:14] <PeanutButter> yeah Kealper is right
#1810 [18:15] <lemon-rev> lol, well mine goes to about half way but its trouble useing it in game so yea well you get that lol
#1811 [18:15] <Kealper> turn the graphics all the way down and then try again
#1812 [18:15] <PeanutButter> it probably doesn't help that I have a giant maze and a large pixel art thing in my world
#1813 [18:15] <Kealper> also
#1814 [18:16] <Kealper> look straight up at the sky while doing it
#1815 [18:16] <PeanutButter> that seems to do it, thanks
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#1817 [18:27] * GreyVulpine kicks Kealper.
#1817 [18:28] <Kealper> >:D
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#1819 [18:29] <Kealper> i took a ton of names out of that list though
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#1821 [18:30] <Kealper> i whiddled it down to just people who logged in within the last few months, and then removed all names that i didn't recognise from that list.... still ended up with 37 names lol
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#1824 [18:35] <Spacey> Hello, I was hoping someone could help me with a server issue?
#1825 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> What issue?
#1826 [18:35] <Spacey> I have a server running on a local network. Everyone outside the local network can access it. But other in-LAN computers can't.
#1827 [18:36] <Spacey> i've tried accessing it with my external IP, the network IP, anything, and i get the same result. it times out on connect.
#1828 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Did you happen to add an ip to the server-ip line in server.properties?
#1829 [18:36] <Spacey> i did not.
#1830 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then um.
#1831 [18:37] <Spacey> The thing is, it was working fine earlier this week!
#1832 [18:37] <Spacey> I know i can get to the computer because remote desktop and VNC work perfectly fine.
#1833 [18:37] <Spacey> but minecraft just times out.
#1834 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Any special firewall rules?
#1835 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Your server modded in any way?
#1836 [18:39] <Spacey> not that i know of. like i said, the server works perfectly externally.
#1837 [18:40] <Spacey> runecraft is installed. but it was installed back when it was still working, and didn't affect it working.
#1838 [18:40] <Spacey> installed on the server, not on the client.
#1839 [18:40] <Spacey> i haven't tried completely re-downloading everything on the client, but i also tried connecting with the web app, and it didn't work.
#1840 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Does the server see you connecting from the LAN?
#1841 [18:41] <Spacey> No.
#1842 [18:42] <Spacey> if i try changing to a different port (putting in a bogus port), it just immediately errors.
#1843 [18:42] <Spacey> but if i try on the port the server's running on, it just times out.
#1844 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Strange..
#1845 [18:43] <Spacey> if i move the server to a different port, the problem persists on the new port.
#1846 [18:44] <Spacey> yeah, i have no real idea why it isn't working.
#1847 [18:44] <Spacey> when everyone outside my network can connect.
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#1849 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Spacey - What else is running on that machine?
#1850 [18:48] <Spacey> mIRC, and VNC server.
#1851 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> No security software?
#1852 [18:49] <Spacey> windows firewall is running, i suppose
#1853 [18:49] <Spacey> i have all the ports manually set to open.
#1854 [18:49] <Dark_Fox_> What's the proper way to close a minecraft server through the command line?
#1855 [18:49] <Spacey> well, the ports minecraft is using.
#1856 [18:49] <Dark_Fox_> Like, to save and quit the world
#1857 [18:49] <Spacey> "stop"
#1858 [18:50] <Spacey> without the quotes
#1859 [18:50] <Dark_Fox_> Will that save the world before quitting?
#1860 [18:51] <Spacey> yes.
#1861 [18:51] <Dark_Fox_> Awesome, thanks
#1862 [18:51] <Spacey> no problem
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#1864 [19:00] <Spacey> i just tried a completely clean install on a computer that had never run minecraft, and it still won't connect to the server on the LAN
#1865 [19:00] <Spacey> and while i did this, two people from outside connected :(
#1866 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me an idea of how your network topology is like?
#1867 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Start with ip addresses
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#1870 [19:02] <Spacey> well, all the devices on my network are under 192.168.0.*, connecting to a router at 192.168.0.100
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#1873 [19:03] <Spacey> the router has a static IP declared with my modem, which then goes outside
#1874 [19:03] <Spacey> the server with mcserver on it has a static IP declared with the modem, 192.168.0.9
#1875 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> So it's Double-NATted.
#1876 [19:04] <Spacey> kind of. the modem won't hand out any more IPs, just the one to the modem.
#1877 [19:04] <Spacey> er, to the router.
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#1879 [19:04] <Spacey> the modem forwards all incoming traffic to the router, which in turn forwards everything to .9
#1880 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> What is the LAN ip of the router?
#1881 [19:04] <Dark_Fox_> Alright sweet, now my server restarts automatically when it crashes
#1882 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> What ip is the router getting from your modem?
#1883 [19:04] <Spacey> as far as the modem is concerned?
#1884 [19:05] <Spacey> 192.168.1.1
#1885 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, it's doubly-NATed, I assume you had to port forward through your modem as well.
#1886 [19:05] <Spacey> the router should be intercepting any requests to 192.168.0.9 and just passing them through
#1887 [19:05] <Spacey> yes
#1888 [19:06] <Spacey> like i said, the outside world can connect to my server fine.
#1889 [19:06] <Spacey> just not the inside world.
#1890 [19:06] <Spacey> i could i guess connect this computer to the modem, so i'm going in from outside the router
#1891 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> And you can't connect with any internal ip at all?
#1892 [19:06] <Spacey> no, i just tried it on another computer, same result.
#1893 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.0.9 won't work on any LAN computer?
#1894 [19:07] <Dark_Fox_> He doesn't have the server bound to an external IP, does he?
#1895 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> He says server-ip is blank
#1896 [19:07] <Spacey> it is blank, yes
#1897 [19:07] <Dark_Fox_> Mmkay
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#1899 [19:07] <Spacey> it works on everything but minecraft!
#1900 [19:07] <Rui_rui> Heyoooo
#1901 [19:07] <Spacey> it just times out if i'm connecting to the proper port
#1902 [19:07] <Spacey> but if i put in the wrong port, instant failure
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#1904 [19:08] <Spacey> VNC is connecting perfectly fine.
#1905 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> You're not running any sort of server wrapper, right?
#1906 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> MCadmin/mcmyadmin?
#1907 [19:08] <Rui_rui> \So uh
#1908 [19:08] <Spacey> no. i'm just running it from command line
#1909 [19:08] <Rui_rui> My friend is trying to get into the server, and previously he had no problem
#1910 [19:08] <Rui_rui> But now he's getting Connection timed out: connect
#1911 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> What's the command you're using?
#1912 [19:08] <Spacey> welcome to my world rui ;)
#1913 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Rui_rui - Make sure he's using the right IP
#1914 [19:08] <Spacey> let me copy it, sec
#1915 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Double check what he's putting in is correct Rui_rui
#1916 [19:08] <Rui_rui> I'll double check, but I'm pretty sure it's right
#1917 [19:09] <Spacey> java -Xmx1536M -Xms1536M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1918 [19:09] <Dark_Fox_> Rui_rui: Do the two of you have the same client/server versions?
#1919 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> If it's not the same, it'll give "outdated client" or "outdated server" errors
#1920 [19:09] <Rui_rui> You mean... the same version? oO
#1921 [19:09] <Spacey> i would like to also note that a week ago with the wolf update my server started lagging a whole lot.
#1922 [19:09] <Dark_Fox_> GreyVulpine: Ah, I see
#1923 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Spacey - Have you tried connected with a client on the same computer as the server, and with 127.0.0.1/localhost?
#1924 [19:10] <Spacey> i'm kind of afraid to try running minecraft on the same machine as the host. i'm already dedicating a lot of ram on it to the server.
#1925 [19:10] <Rui_rui> Okay, he says he has the right IP Address
#1926 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Rui_rui - He's told you exactly what he's putting in?
#1927 [19:11] <Rui_rui> I gave my address to him. and he said that it was the same thing
#1928 [19:11] <Spacey> before the wolf update, my server was running absolutely fine, lag-free, with like 8 people on and only a gig of ram allocated
#1929 [19:11] <Spacey> now i have it at 1.5 gigs of ram, and 2-3 people on the server are experiencing lag when on at the same time.
#1930 [19:12] <Spacey> i'm not really sure if it's a related problem.
#1931 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Spacey - Yeah, the netcode needs a bit of optimization.... but I don't think it's related
#1932 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> I still think it's a firewall/security software issue.
#1933 [19:13] <Spacey> i'm only running windows firewall, and i have both TCP and UDP ports open for the port.
#1934 [19:13] <Rui_rui> Could I have someone come into the game, to see if it's just him?
#1935 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Rui_rui - address?
#1936 [19:13] <Spacey> like i said, absolutely nothing changed until the wolf update.
#1937 [19:14] <Rui_rui> 69.134.72.23
#1938 [19:14] <Spacey> then the server started lagging a lot, and two days ago i stopped being able to connect on the same network.
#1939 [19:14] <Dark_Fox_> Rui_rui: Can't connect
#1940 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Can't connect Rui_rui
#1941 [19:14] <Rui_rui> Okay. So how come I'm able to join my own game, but no one else can?
#1942 [19:14] <Rui_rui> And white_list is set to false.
#1943 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Rui_rui - Double check your port forwarding
#1944 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Make sure your private internal ip hasn't changed since you last set it up
#1945 [19:15] <Spacey> rui: do you have an IP manually declared in your server.properties?
#1946 [19:15] <Rui_rui> It has changed, but I changed my port accordingly
#1947 [19:15] <gPad2002> "Sorry, but your DNS is in another castle..."
#1948 [19:16] <Rui_rui> Spacey: No.
#1949 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Rui_rui - double check it again, just in case
#1950 [19:16] <Rui_rui> I just did
#1951 [19:16] <Rui_rui> If the port wasn't properly forwarded it wouldn't even let me in
#1952 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily, if you were connecting locally
#1953 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Spacey - I'd download the client on the server's machine, and try executing it with 64M of ram, just to see if you can't connect with localhost
#1954 [19:17] <Rui_rui> Before, when I tried, it wouldn't let me in.
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#1956 [19:18] <Rui_rui> Max Players is 20...
#1957 [19:19] <Spacey> alright, i am trying that, grey.
#1958 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Rui_rui - Happen to have teamviewer?
#1959 [19:20] <Rui_rui> No. I could probably get my friend to use remote desktop, though. Would that work?
#1960 [19:20] <Rui_rui> Er
#1961 [19:20] <Rui_rui> Not my friend >>;
#1962 [19:20] <Rui_rui> I could use remote desktop
#1963 [19:20] <Spacey> GreyVulpine: it worked perfectly fine.
#1964 [19:20] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1964 [19:20] <Spacey> using localhost and the port
#1965 [19:20] <Rui_rui> Ooor if teamviewer is free, I could get that
#1966 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> teamviewer is free
#1967 [19:21] <gPad2002> And bypasses firewalls
#1968 [19:22] <Rui_rui> Okay, it's up.
#1969 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> PM me your id and password
#1970 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> use /msg greyvulpine whatever
#1971 [19:24] <Rui_rui> Lmfao how do I use it
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#1974 [19:31] <Rui_rui> I think my friend went AFK, so I'll get back to you on that.
#1975 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Alright
#1976 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> It's possible the router took some time to update its port forwarding table.
#1977 [19:32] <Spacey> is hope pretty much lost for me, until the network code updates, grey?
#1978 [19:32] <Rui_rui> >_>...
#1979 [19:32] <Rui_rui> He can't get in D:
#1980 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Spacey - I really don't know Spacey, I don't think it's the network code, I think it's something to do with your network setup, or possibly something on your server.
#1981 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Rui_rui - He can't?
#1982 [19:33] <Rui_rui> Nope. And it says he lost connection on my server window. :/
#1983 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Huh..
#1984 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Rui_rui - I'd reboot the machine, then try again
#1985 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> power-cycle the router as well
#1986 [19:35] <Rui_rui> Okay x_x;
#1987 [19:35] <Rui_rui> Brb
#1988 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Spacey - You're not running any sort of antivirus software on your server at all?
#1989 [19:36] <Spacey> nope.
#1990 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
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#1992 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Spacey, I'm a little boggled, I don't really know.
#1993 [19:38] <Spacey> it's okay.
#1994 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> What ip addresses have you tried on the LAN computers?
#1995 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Your 0.9 address, and your public?
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#1998 [19:42] <Spacey> yes.
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#2000 [19:42] <Spacey> the public IP just fails, but that's kind of expected.
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#2002 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried the router's ip address as seen by the modem?
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#2004 [19:42] <Spacey> i have not!
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#2006 [19:43] <EmpiresBane> hey guys, i thought i'd get on and telll you the reason i've been gone for so long isn't because i've abandoned you, it's cuz i'm grounded
#2007 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Eep
#2008 [19:43] <EmpiresBane> and am likely to be so for another couple weeks
#2009 [19:43] <Spacey> that worked!!
#2010 [19:43] <EmpiresBane> bad grades...
#2011 [19:43] <Spacey> thank you grey
#2012 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> No way
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#2014 [19:44] <Spacey> no, it's connected perfectly
#2015 [19:44] * GreyVulpine is even more confused
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#2016 [19:46] <don_bueno> So I am trying to make a map from my buddies server. Would the world be saved on my comp? I looked didnt seem it was there.
#2017 [19:47] <don_bueno> Also Buenos Noches
#2018 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Maps from MP aren't saved locally
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#2020 [19:47] <Rui_rui> Hey Grey, my friend is afk again... could you try popping onto my server one more time? Address hasn't changed
#2021 [19:47] <don_bueno> Cool thanks GreyVulpine
#2022 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> I've got nothing Rui_rui
#2023 [19:48] <Rui_rui> x__x
#2024 [19:49] <Rui_rui> So why is the game letting me in without fail and only intermittently allowing others in??
#2025 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> routing problem or a security software issue
#2026 [19:51] <Rui_rui> Do me a favor and try one more time
#2027 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> 69.134.72.23?
#2028 [19:52] <Rui_rui> Yep... guess it's not my firewall
#2029 [19:52] <Rui_rui> /anti-virus
#2030 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Nothing..
#2031 [19:52] <Rui_rui> Mehh
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#2033 [19:53] <Rui_rui> I think maybe Cisco did something
#2034 [19:53] <Rui_rui> We've been having router troubles lately, so the guy said he like... Restarted its connection to them or something.
#2035 [19:53] <Rui_rui> And he also put it on surveillance for 7 days.
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#2039 [20:00] <Ir0nman> anyone use a program to get an overhead shot of map
#2040 [20:00] <Spacey> hm. just got an odd error. TickNextTick list out of sync
#2041 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Ir0nman - mcmap, overviewer, c10t..
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#2044 [20:02] <Kealper> c10t is super good if you just want a simple map
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#2046 [20:06] <lee_anderson> a Admin on >.<
#2047 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#2048 [20:06] <Kealper> depends on your definition of admin
#2049 [20:07] <lee_anderson> ffff My Account still active
#2050 [20:07] <lee_anderson> aint~
#2051 [20:07] <Kealper> grey are your computer speakers good?
#2052 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2053 [20:08] <Kealper> do they hate bass?
#2054 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> They're not bassy at all
#2055 [20:08] <Kealper> oh...
#2056 [20:08] <Kealper> headphones? lol
#2057 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> I use headphones more than speakers
#2058 [20:09] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2XmLcnYSwQ <-- that was recorded off a vinyl recording of the track
#2059 [20:09] <Kealper> i want that record :<
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#2063 [20:12] <Ckm2> howdy
#2064 [20:12] <aetherian> 'owd'
#2065 [20:15] <Ckm2> is there a fix on frequent crashing of miencraft moving my character out of place, consisitently into solid blocks causing death?
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#2067 [20:16] <oldtopman> Ckm2: SMP or SSP?
#2068 [20:16] <Ckm2> i dont know?
#2069 [20:16] <aetherian> ...
#2070 [20:17] <aetherian> multiplayer or single player
#2071 [20:17] <Ckm2> single
#2072 [20:17] <oldtopman> Try re-downloading the client
#2073 [20:18] <aetherian> what OS are you on
#2074 [20:18] <aetherian> unless you already know how to reinstall
#2075 [20:18] <Ckm2> windows 7
#2076 [20:18] <aetherian> go to the start menu
#2077 [20:18] <aetherian> type %appdata%
#2078 [20:18] <aetherian> click on roaming
#2079 [20:18] <aetherian> go in .minecraft
#2080 [20:19] <aetherian> delete the bin folder
#2081 [20:19] <Ckm2> k, there
#2082 [20:19] <oldtopman> ??> Skm2 win/reinst
#2083 [20:19] <VoxelHead> Skm2: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2084 [20:19] <Ckm2> and?
#2085 [20:19] <VoxelHead> Skm2: (win/reinst) To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2086 [20:19] <aetherian> oldtopman: I just said that
#2087 [20:20] <aetherian> @_@_@_@_@
#2088 [20:20] <oldtopman> aetherian: I missed it.
#2089 [20:20] <aetherian> how did-
#2090 [20:20] <Ckm2> thank you both
#2091 [20:20] <aetherian> what the-
#2092 [20:20] <aetherian> I'm sorry brain. I'll take you somewhere else now
#2093 [20:21] <oldtopman> Ckm2: props to aetherian, he beat me to it. By a long shot
#2094 [20:22] <Ckm2> lol
#2095 [20:22] <Ckm2> im jsut sad that ebcause i got palced randomly
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#2101 [20:58] <Ckm2> i lost my about 10 minute long(walking) mineshaft and i have to make a compass, find my spawn pouint go to the bottom of the map then start walking through my tunnel from the beggining
#2102 [20:59] <DataWizard> How can we help?
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#2104 [20:59] <Ckm2> it was just gettigna nnoyed with randomc rashing making em ,lose my tunnels
#2105 [21:01] <DataWizard> Oh, okay.
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#2113 [21:32] <Bailey> can anyone help me?
#2114 [21:33] <Bailey> hello?
#2115 [21:34] <oldtopman> ??> Bailey ask
#2116 [21:34] <VoxelHead> Bailey: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2117 [21:34] <VoxelHead> Bailey: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2118 [21:34] <Bailey> kk
#2119 [21:34] <Bailey> My Minecraft single player beta world has been deleted, does anyone know how to recover it, its still in the .minecraft folder..?
#2120 [21:35] <aetherian> it's in .minecraft/saves ?
#2121 [21:35] <Bailey> yea
#2122 [21:35] <aetherian> but it's not there when you launch minecraft
#2123 [21:35] <Bailey> correct
#2124 [21:35] <oldtopman> hmmm
#2125 [21:35] <Bailey> the level.dat folders are empty.
#2126 [21:36] <aetherian> it may be fully corrupted then
#2127 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Did your computer happen to shut off unexpectedly?
#2128 [21:36] <Bailey> and i had done quite a bit of work in that world
#2129 [21:36] <Bailey> yea it did
#2130 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#2131 [21:36] <Bailey> is there anyway to recover it?
#2132 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Best way to recover it, use a map editor like MCedit, open it up in it, then resave it
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#2134 [21:36] <Bailey> i have no idea how to do any of that :P
#2135 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> More often than not, it'll recover the world.
#2136 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> MCedit can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#2137 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Just run it, open up the saved world, press ctrl-s to save it again
#2138 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Then launch it back up in minecraft
#2139 [21:37] <Bailey> mk, lemme give that a whirl :)
#2140 [21:38] <Hamr> Hi. Question about the game not starting.
#2141 [21:38] <aetherian> specify
#2142 [21:38] <Hamr> It randomly stopped working a few months ago.
#2143 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Define, "Stopped working"
#2144 [21:38] <Hamr> It updates, crashes, and leaves an error note.
#2145 [21:38] <Hamr> Lets me log in.
#2146 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Can you pastebin.com the error?
#2147 [21:39] <Hamr> Sure.
#2148 [21:39] <Hamr> One moment.
#2149 [21:40] <Hamr> http://pastebin.com/4fgvU0kU
#2150 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Try updating your ATI video card drivers.
#2151 [21:41] <Hamr> Through Device Manager?
#2152 [21:41] <Hamr> I did that.
#2153 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Not through device manager
#2154 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> (You never update video drivers through device manager)
#2155 [21:42] <Hamr> I guess I'll grab catalyst again.
#2156 [21:47] <ionface> Hamr, if a simple reinstall doesn't work, try your luck with a safemode clean install http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showpost.php?s=32fbd39e86b5def2ef00c3876f8bde8d&p=3109815&postcount=5
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#2158 [21:49] <Joe> Hey, I'm trying to purchase minecraft right now, but it's taken over 10 minutes to verify my credit card and it's still verifying. Should I reset the process?
#2159 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, are you using the DIBS credit card system, or paypal?
#2160 [21:52] <Joe> credit card system
#2161 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'd cancel out, make sure your credit card hasn't been charged yet, and try paypal
#2162 [21:53] <Joe> Alright, thanks ;]
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#2164 [21:56] <Hamr> Catalyst Control host application has stopped working.
#2165 [21:56] <Hamr> Now I remember why I got rid of it.
#2166 [21:57] <Bailey> thanks for the help, i got it working =D
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#2169 [22:00] <mib_c2q5eg> i need help
#2170 [22:01] <mib_c2q5eg> my jar. is corrupted or has crashed how do i fix it and where do i go
#2171 [22:02] <oldtopman> mib_c2q5eg: Click the options bar and check "force update"
#2172 [22:03] <mib_c2q5eg> where
#2173 [22:03] <mib_c2q5eg> is it located
#2174 [22:03] <mib_c2q5eg> i tryed using a mod
#2175 [22:03] <Hamr> I'll try later when my connection is stable enough to download anything.
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#2177 [22:03] <Hamr> Thanks.
#2178 [22:03] <carolep> 'lo all
#2179 [22:03] <oldtopman> mib_c2q5eg: Start the client
#2180 [22:03] <aetherian> 'high carolep
#2181 [22:04] <mib_c2q5eg> and i just did not learn the first time
#2182 [22:04] <mib_c2q5eg> where is client
#2183 [22:04] <mib_c2q5eg> ???????
#2184 [22:04] <oldtopman> mib_c2q5eg: The .exe you downloaded
#2185 [22:04] <carolep> I'm trying to run a server to host a local game for my family. I'm having problems. Anyone have time for me?
#2186 [22:04] <oldtopman> carlolep: Run the server software
#2187 [22:04] <mib_c2q5eg> is it in a file
#2188 [22:05] <mib_c2q5eg> the .exe
#2189 [22:05] <oldtopman> carlolep: oops, misread. Whats your problem
#2190 [22:05] <oldtopman> mib_c2q5eg: WHat do you click to start minecraft?
#2191 [22:05] <carolep> *sigh* just read the known issues... I have a realtek network adapter, so that's what's causing the disconnect issues.
#2192 [22:05] <carolep> ... which is the problem. ;)
#2193 [22:06] <oldtopman> carolep: Sorry :(
#2194 [22:06] <carolep> well... POOP.
#2195 [22:06] <mib_c2q5eg> my decktop download
#2196 [22:06] <carolep> no multiplayer for ME
#2197 [22:06] <mib_c2q5eg> oh and sorry
#2198 [22:07] <mib_c2q5eg> i down loaded minecraft to my desktop
#2199 [22:07] * carolep shakes fist at my computer "first Vista, now Realtek!"
#2199 [22:08] <mib_c2q5eg> what happened with vista
#2200 [22:08] <carolep> I tried to run the game, and all I got was a blank black screen... you having the same issue mib?
#2201 [22:08] <oldtopman> mib_c2q5eg: Open that file
#2202 [22:09] <mib_c2q5eg> kind of i need to find client
#2203 [22:09] <mib_c2q5eg> because of a modd
#2204 [22:09] <carolep> ohhhh, I haven't tried modding yet
#2205 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_c2q5eg - Try this:
#2206 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#2207 [22:09] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2208 [22:09] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2209 [22:10] <carolep> VoxelHead has given that advice so often it's a macro. ;)
#2210 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> It is
#2211 [22:10] <carolep> I know it, and it works.
#2212 [22:11] <carolep> but I know how to fix the stupid vista blackscreen issue, and it doesn't work with a win/reinst
#2213 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> reinstall java/video card drivers?
#2214 [22:11] <mib_c2q5eg> i only modded my wolfs agot tomany items and used single player comand
#2215 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any custom themes with vista activated?
#2216 [22:12] <carolep> nope... and yes, I had custom themes. you edit the program compatability to deactivate the Vista desktop.
#2217 [22:12] <carolep> it steps down the video output slightly, and boom, the game runs
#2218 [22:12] <mib_c2q5eg> voxelhead:i use 7-zip
#2219 [22:12] * GreyVulpine nods
#2219 [22:13] <carolep> however, java crashed on me an average of once every 15 minutes. so I finally gave in and downgraded to XP.
#2220 [22:13] <aetherian> you coulda upgraded to Linux... oh, well.
#2221 [22:13] <carolep> someday aetherian. ;) my unix abilities are poor
#2222 [22:14] <Ckm2> does windows 7 have probs with minecraft?
#2223 [22:14] <aetherian> upgrade them ;)
#2224 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> No it doesn't Ckm2
#2225 [22:14] <mib_c2q5eg> i dont think it does
#2226 [22:14] * carolep rubs hands together and plots. "First unix, then the WORLD!!!"
#2226 [22:15] <mib_c2q5eg> me still confused
#2227 [22:15] <mib_c2q5eg> i modded and messed up and heard that client can help
#2228 [22:16] <carolep> ok, I'm going to see if I can find some better network drivers for this POS computer of mine, take care all.
#2229 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Cya carolep.
#2230 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_c2q5eg - You need to follow VoxelHead's instructions
#2231 [22:16] <mib_c2q5eg> bye
#2232 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#2233 [22:16] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2234 [22:16] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press Win+R, type in %AppData%, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2235 [22:16] <mib_c2q5eg> they confuse me
#2236 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> What confuses you?
#2237 [22:17] <mib_c2q5eg> i use 7zip is it any different
#2238 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> No it doesn't
#2239 [22:17] <mib_c2q5eg> ok
#2240 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> The instructions don't have anything to do with 7zip
#2241 [22:17] <mib_c2q5eg> 1 sec
#2242 [22:17] <mib_c2q5eg> brb
#2243 [22:18] <mib_c2q5eg> what is win+r is it winrar
#2244 [22:18] <mib_c2q5eg> or totally different
#2245 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Win+R is your windows+R key
#2246 [22:18] <mib_c2q5eg> ok
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#2248 [22:19] <mib_c2q5eg> so delete bin right
#2249 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2250 [22:19] <mib_c2q5eg> k then wat
#2251 [22:19] <mib_c2q5eg> what
#2252 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft
#2253 [22:20] <mib_c2q5eg> in the website i cant do it on mydesktop
#2254 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you do it on your desktop?
#2255 [22:21] <mib_c2q5eg> i dont know
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#2257 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> What happens?
#2258 [22:21] <mib_c2q5eg> the letters lets play are gray and faded
#2259 [22:21] <Jackson413> yo kealper
#2260 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> "Let's play"?
#2261 [22:22] <Jackson413> lol>
#2262 [22:22] <mib_c2q5eg> sorry i mean play offline
#2263 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the client you got downloaded from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2264 [22:22] <Ckm2> yes
#2265 [22:22] <mib_c2q5eg> sorry i mean ply offline
#2266 [22:23] <Ckm2> > so, since i reinstalled the game its crashed 3 times in less than half an hour, any ideas?
#2267 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Right... mib_c2q5eg, you paid for minecraft, right?
#2268 [22:23] <mib_c2q5eg> i didnt even know were you find client
#2269 [22:23] <mib_c2q5eg> si
#2270 [22:23] <mib_c2q5eg> yes
#2271 [22:24] <xales> Ckm2: try turning off "smooth lighting" in Graphic Options
#2272 [22:24] <mib_c2q5eg> i need client right where is it
#2273 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_c2q5eg - Try deleting and redownloading the client again
#2274 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2275 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> You can find it there
#2276 [22:24] <Ckm2> it iit is
#2277 [22:24] <mib_c2q5eg> yeah i tryed finding it before i dint know where thanks
#2278 [22:25] <xales> Ckm2: Try reinstalling Java, other than that, it's a known issue that some have
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#2280 [22:25] <Ckm2> anythign to do with nvida geforce graphics cards?
#2281 [22:25] <Westpilot> Hi folks, I had a question about purchse methods.
#2282 [22:25] <xales> We don't know exactly what causes it
#2283 [22:26] <mib_c2q5eg> what hyper link do i choose
#2284 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Westpilot - Ask away
#2285 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_c2q5eg - The minecraft.exe if you're on windows
#2286 [22:26] <Westpilot> Is it possible to purchase the game via Western Union?
#2287 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> No it isn't Westpilot
#2288 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> right now, it's only purchasable through paypal/creditcards
#2289 [22:26] <mib_c2q5eg> the first or second
#2290 [22:26] <Westpilot> Alright, thank you very much. :)
#2291 [22:27] <mib_c2q5eg> ok way do i put it now
#2292 [22:28] <mib_c2q5eg> where do i put it now (had a typo)
#2293 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Anywhere you want mib_c2q5eg.
#2294 [22:29] <mib_c2q5eg> does it need to be in the .minecraft folder
#2295 [22:29] <Ckm2> well, it wasnt crashing this often before, is there a waty to go back?
#2296 [22:30] <xales> Ckm2: No, but you can try reinstalling again, or reinstalling and updating Java
#2297 [22:31] <mib_c2q5eg> what do i do now if i open it
#2298 [22:32] <Ckm2> java is up to date
#2299 [22:32] <mib_c2q5eg> and do i put it in the .minecraft folder
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#2301 [22:32] <xales> Ckm2: Have you tried reinstalling it?
#2302 [22:32] <xales> mib_c2q5eg: As GreyVulpine said, put it whereever. It should not be in the .minecraft folder
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#2304 [22:33] <xales> Once you put it somewhere, just open it like everything else
#2305 [22:33] <mib_c2q5eg> open it
#2306 [22:33] <Ckm2> jsut delted and reinstalled again
#2307 [22:33] <mib_c2q5eg> you mean open minecraft game
#2308 [22:34] <xales> Double click on the .exe file you downloaded
#2309 [22:35] <mib_c2q5eg> ok i have
#2310 [22:36] <mib_c2q5eg> and i went to options and forced update
#2311 [22:36] <mib_c2q5eg> nothing
#2312 [22:36] <oldtopman> Now login and play
#2313 [22:37] <mib_c2q5eg> i have tryed i cant
#2314 [22:37] <oldtopman> Did id download any foles?
#2315 [22:37] <xales> Why can't you?
#2316 [22:37] <mib_c2q5eg> id i dont think so
#2317 [22:38] <xales> What does it say when you try to login?
#2318 [22:38] <mib_c2q5eg> xales idont no y
#2319 [22:38] <mib_c2q5eg> login fail
#2320 [22:38] <xales> What username are you using?
#2321 [22:38] <mib_c2q5eg> wiat 1 sec
#2322 [22:38] <mib_c2q5eg> and atkent
#2323 [22:38] <oldtopman> xales: Mind if I PM you?
#2324 [22:38] <oldtopman> !paid atkent
#2325 [22:39] <xales> oldtopman: sure
#2326 [22:39] <xales> mib_c2q5eg: you are entering your password incorrectly
#2327 [22:40] <mib_c2q5eg> k i forgot i had new pass word i was used to using the old one and is updating now
#2328 [22:40] <mib_c2q5eg> k it work yes
#2329 [22:40] <mib_c2q5eg> thank
#2330 [22:41] <mib_c2q5eg> thought i was going to rage qiut
#2331 [22:42] <mib_c2q5eg> yay it works
#2332 [22:43] <mib_c2q5eg> thanks
#2333 [22:43] <mib_c2q5eg> bye
#2334 [22:43] <Chr|s> mibbit web chat fail!
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#2336 [22:45] <whidgle> k
#2337 [22:45] <whidgle> its me atkent
#2338 [22:45] <whidgle> how do you keep the same name on here
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#2340 [22:46] <whidgle> hi
#2341 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> You can register your name on this IRC network
#2342 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Use: /msg nickserv register password email
#2343 [22:47] <aetherian> pfft, everyone knows that mibbit is the best client :o
#2344 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> each time you connect thereafter, you can use: /msg nickserv identify password
#2345 [22:47] <aetherian> unless you use a client that can handle that for youy
#2346 [22:48] <aetherian> *you
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#2349 [22:49] <whidgle> irc network k i has hyperlink or told where is
#2350 [22:49] <Jeff007> hey guys, i had a quick question on servers and the networking, anyone think thing they may be able to assist?
#2351 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Jeff007 - Ask away
#2352 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - This network is irc.esper.net
#2353 [22:50] <whidgle> is it the site
#2354 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> No, it's the link you put into your IRC client
#2355 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> To use the web interface, you can use: http://www.esper.net/publicirc.php
#2356 [22:51] <Jeff007> basically im wanting to make a small server for the weekend so i can play with a friend but im having trouble with the port forwarding because i think the actual router is at my isp's office and the router at my house is just a switch so i cant do any port forwarding
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#2358 [22:52] <whidgle> what is channel for
#2359 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> channel is the room's name. This channel's name is #minecrafthelp
#2360 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Jeff007 - Where are you actually hosting the server?
#2361 [22:52] <whidgle> so i just put that
#2362 [22:52] <Jeff007> on my laptop
#2363 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Jeff007 - Using what internet connection?
#2364 [22:53] <Jeff007> what do you mean?
#2365 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Your home connection?
#2366 [22:53] <Jeff007> yea
#2367 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Cable? DSL? Sat?
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#2369 [22:54] <atkent> ok
#2370 [22:54] <atkent> and now wat
#2371 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> atkent - What do you mean?
#2372 [22:54] <atkent> is that it
#2373 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> That's it.
#2374 [22:54] <Jeff007> its a local company that sends it through their cell towers but its dedicated to only internet
#2375 [22:54] <atkent> will it stay like this
#2376 [22:55] <atkent> if i close out
#2377 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> atkent - As long as you keep the browser open, yes.
#2378 [22:55] <atkent> o
#2379 [22:55] <atkent> hey i haave to mibbit open can i close 1
#2380 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> atkent - You can close one, sure
#2381 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Jeff007 - An internet connection that is tethered to a cell tower isn't conducive to hosting a server like MC..
#2382 [22:56] <atkent> two mibbit open can i close 1
#2383 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> atkent - Yes
#2384 [22:56] <atkent> does it matter which 1
#2385 [22:56] <Jeff007> what would be the problem?
#2386 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> bandwidth for one, latency for another, the way it's routed through the cell towers/being able to host a server behind all that
#2387 [22:58] <whidgle> does it matter which 1 i close
#2388 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Nope
#2389 [22:58] <Jeff007> i dont think latancy/bandwith would be a problem, i have about 50ms 1.5down/.5up
#2390 [22:58] <whidgle> but it went back to whidgle
#2391 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - If you want to change your name, use: /nick newname
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#2393 [22:59] <whidgle> when it was atkent on the other screen
#2394 [22:59] <whidgle> ok
#2395 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Jeff007 - .5mbit is very, very small
#2396 [22:59] <rocketrevor> can someone tell me where I can find help for mods?
#2397 [22:59] <Jeff007> would it be able to handle me and 1 friend?
#2398 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> rocketrevor - What kind of help?
#2399 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Jeff007 - I doubt it.
#2400 [22:59] <newname> hold on i messed up
#2401 [23:00] <rocketrevor> I was able to get mods to work for 1.3, but 1.4 isn't working.
#2402 [23:00] <rocketrevor> I have all the recent updates for all the mods, but whenever I install modloader I don't even get an error, just a black screen.
#2403 [23:00] <newname> hello
#2404 [23:00] <newname> crap
#2405 [23:01] <Jeff007> other than this possible upload speed issue, whould there be more that i may have to deal with to get this running?
#2406 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> rocketrevor - Then you'll need to reinstall everything
#2407 [23:01] <rocketrevor> I've done that three times already.
#2408 [23:01] <ATKENT> ok
#2409 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Jeff007 - I don't know what kind of network setup your internet provider is like.
#2410 [23:01] <ATKENT> i think it worked
#2411 [23:01] <ATKENT> yes it worked
#2412 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> rocketrevor - Done, what, exactly?
#2413 [23:02] <rocketrevor> I've completely redownloaded everything, and reinstalled it three times, and it still gets a black screen when I put just modloader into the .jar
#2414 [23:02] <Jeff007> well im pretty sure it goes reciever/router -> router as a switch -> computer
#2415 [23:02] <Jeff007> and i dont have acces to the reciever/router
#2416 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> rocketrevor - Then you didn't follow the directions for the modloader correctly
#2417 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> rocketrevor - I'd hit up #risucraft for help
#2418 [23:03] <rocketrevor> thanks anyways though
#2419 [23:03] <rocketrevor> I'll go there
#2420 [23:03] <ATKENT> thats hat happened to me rocketrevor
#2421 [23:03] <ATKENT> i wouldnt do it
#2422 [23:06] <Jeff007> what does this mean
#2423 [23:06] <Jeff007> java.net.noroutetohostexception: no route to host
#2424 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Recheck the ip that you're putting in
#2425 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it's correct
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#2427 [23:08] <Jeff007> that happens when i change my ip to .101 from .176 and i cant use my browser, that goes offline
#2428 [23:09] <Jeff007> is it possibly just not being able to connect to the internet
#2429 [23:09] <SpamIam> can I get help with the minecraft launcher?
#2430 [23:09] <aetherian> SpamIam: what dost thou need help with
#2431 [23:10] <SpamIam> Well, whenever I try updating it starts downloading then just stops. I have tried downloading a new launcher, deleting the .minecraft folder.
#2432 [23:10] <SpamIam> It has started happening since 1.4_01
#2433 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> SpamIam - How far does it download?
#2434 [23:11] <SpamIam> It varies from 0% to about 60%
#2435 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> SpamIam - How is your internet connection? Is it stable?
#2436 [23:11] <SpamIam> Very.
#2437 [23:12] <SpamIam> I'll get you a speedtest result in a sec
#2438 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> SpamIam - Can you launch it via the browser, use the java icon in the lower right to bring up the java console, and pastebin.com the results
#2439 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> It'll give us here what's happening behind the scenes
#2440 [23:13] <SpamIam> Ok, I'll try
#2441 [23:13] <SpamIam> first, speed test results
#2442 [23:13] <SpamIam> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1243403369.png
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#2445 [23:14] <SpamIam> I cannot launch it via browser
#2446 [23:14] <SpamIam> all I get is a white screen
#2447 [23:18] <SpamIam> Anybody?
#2448 [23:19] <Shadow386> Speeds wont matter for your browser
#2449 [23:19] <Shadow386> its all based on your video card, ram, and cpu speeds
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#2451 [23:20] <Shadow386> I would help, but I've been working my arse off all day, so I will go
#2452 [23:20] <SpamIam> Ok. Thanks anyway.
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#2454 [23:26] <xales> SpamIam: Try making a new user account on your computer
#2455 [23:26] <xales> and login to that, see if it works
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#2457 [23:27] <SpamIam> ok
#2458 [23:27] <SpamIam> well, I'm admin on this computer, so how would that affect anything?
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#2460 [23:29] <Dragonbut> Hai
#2461 [23:29] <Dragonbut> Aetherian
#2462 [23:29] <aetherian> 'ello then
#2463 [23:30] <Dragonbut> I has a question :3
#2464 [23:31] <aetherian> I figured as much
#2465 [23:31] <Dragonbut> Can you transfer Minecraft saves from Windows to Ubuntu?
#2466 [23:31] <xales> Yes
#2467 [23:31] <xales> Just copy the .minecraft/saves folder
#2468 [23:32] <Dragonbut> Okay thanks Xales :3
#2469 [23:32] <aetherian> into ~/.minecraft
#2470 [23:32] <Dragonbut> Wait...Would I send myself an email with the saves attached?
#2471 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> sneakermail
#2472 [23:33] <Dragonbut> Or can I access this through Windows?
#2473 [23:33] <aetherian> there's a way to access through windows, but I'm not sure how
#2474 [23:34] <aetherian> you could just send an e-mail/put on pendrive
#2475 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Samba installed on Ubuntu?
#2476 [23:34] <Dragonbut> Okay :3
#2477 [23:34] <Dragonbut> No
#2478 [23:34] <xales> GreyVulpine: The Linux kernel has native NTFS read support
#2479 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#2480 [23:34] <Dragonbut> I don't think so XD
#2481 [23:34] <xales> Samba is for accessing shares on other systems
#2482 [23:34] <Dragonbut> Ahh.... Is it easy to use?
#2483 [23:34] <xales> Dragonbut: you should be able to just open the Windows drive (Ubuntu will detect it) and read from it
#2484 [23:34] <aetherian> wait, is this wubi or a installation on a separate partition?
#2485 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> I needed samba way back when, to access ext2/3 linux partitions on my NTFS win2k system
#2486 [23:34] <xales> aetherian: doesn't matter
#2487 [23:35] <aetherian> oh
#2488 [23:35] <Dragonbut> Wubi
#2489 [23:35] * aetherian hasn't really used wubi
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#2490 [23:36] <Dragonbut> Do you have to have Samba on Windows for it?
#2491 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> No
#2492 [23:37] <Dragonbut> Okay :3
#2493 [23:40] <Dragonbut> How do you run Samba?
#2494 [23:41] <oldtopman> Dragonbut: Wubi blocks access to the Win$ drive you install it from
#2495 [23:41] <aetherian> I thought that was the case, but I think there's a way to get past that.
#2496 [23:42] <xales> Dragonbut: Don't bother with Samba, it will do nothing for you
#2497 [23:42] <Dragonbut> XD
#2498 [23:43] <oldtopman> aetherian: You can root-level mount the win# drive my device number, but I wouldn't reccomend it
#2499 [23:43] <Dragonbut> Gtg bai! :3 Ty for the help anyway
#2500 [23:44] <aetherian> .o
#2501 [23:44] <aetherian> o
#2502 [23:44] <aetherian> (ow my eye)
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#2504 [23:49] <joe> hello
#2505 [23:50] <joe> i'm getting an error when opening minecraft
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#2507 [23:51] <joe> it says something along the lines of "failed to get system properties" anyone know what could be causing this?
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#2510 [23:53] <aetherian> o.o
#2511 [23:53] <aetherian> that's quite off, joe.
#2512 [23:53] <aetherian> err, odd
#2513 [23:53] <joe> yea, i don't understand what the error is
#2514 [23:54] <joe> i'm using linux by the way
#2515 [23:54] <joe> and it's sun-java6-jre
#2516 [23:54] <aetherian> you're running minecraft.jar from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp right?
#2517 [23:54] <joe> yea
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#2519 [23:55] <aetherian> huh]
#2520 [23:55] <aetherian> *huh
#2521 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> joe - Can you pastebin.com the entire error message?
#2522 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> The "failed to get system properties" isn't the full error
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#2524 [23:56] <joe> http://pastebin.com/uugQQtSS
#2525 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> First question, "ps aux"
#2526 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> You only have one java process running, right?
#2527 [23:56] <joe> lets see
#2528 [23:57] <joe> yea just one
#2529 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Is that the java applet for minecraft you're running now?
#2530 [23:59] <joe> yea
#2531 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then, I'd look into updating your video drivers