#MinecraftHelp > 2011-04-09
#1 [00:00] <joe> i was afraid you'd say that
#2 [00:02] <mitpatterson> wow, i had 2 mine carts that where going the opposite of all my boosters(which normally will slow or stop a card trying to co oposite) the 2 carts where almost "stuck" together, luckily i grabbed a vid for youtube before they "unglitched" uploading now
#3 [00:03] <xales> GreyVulpine: The "failed to get system properties" is normal and can be ignored, if you didn't know
#4 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> I know xales
#5 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> The real error is below it
#6 [00:04] <xales> yeah, I'm just letting you know, if you didn't arleady
#7 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> In joe's case, it's: http://pastebin.com/uugQQtSS
#8 [00:04] <xales> already*
#9 [00:04] * GreyVulpine nods
#9 [00:05] <mitpatterson> grrr, i fail at minecarts
#10 [00:05] <mitpatterson> i have trouble making them 100% of them time run on their own, sometimes i get like 10 laps fine, and then i leave the area, come back and they stopped
#11 [00:06] <mitpatterson> once the vids up i'll link it and mabey someone will have some advice on my layout/desing
#12 [00:07] <joe> mitpatterson: there are already lots of videos on youtube of minecart designs, just find one that works
#13 [00:07] <mitpatterson> well yah, but i have my own ideas/design needs
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#15 [00:17] <mitpatterson> here we go my vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiEQbp8R1Zg
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#19 [00:26] <Dragonbut> Haiya
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#21 [00:27] <Dragonbut> I have an Ubuntu question :3
#22 [00:27] <Dragonbut> And at the Ubuntu help area they're not helpful at all
#23 [00:28] <Dragonbut> Is there a Task Manager type of thing in Ubuntu?
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#25 [00:29] <Dragonbut> Anyone? :3
#26 [00:29] <aetherian> yes
#27 [00:29] <Dragonbut> What is it?
#28 [00:29] <aetherian> under system, I think
#29 [00:29] <aetherian> called
#30 [00:29] <aetherian> (dun-duh-na na!)
#31 [00:29] <aetherian> task manager!
#32 [00:29] <Dragonbut> Okay ty :3
#33 [00:29] <aetherian> just look through the menus
#34 [00:31] <Dragonbut> I don't see it D:
#35 [00:31] <aetherian> have you looked through all the menus
#36 [00:31] <aetherian> and all the submenus
#37 [00:31] <Dragonbut> Yeah
#38 [00:32] <Dragonbut> Yep
#39 [00:32] <joe> Dragonbut: system>administrator>system monitor
#40 [00:32] <joe> go to processes tab
#41 [00:32] <Dragonbut> Okay System Monitor not Task Manager
#42 [00:32] <Dragonbut> Ty
#43 [00:32] <criptaco> Hey everyone.. I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I have had this problem for a couple of months. I bought minecraft probably like 3-4 months ago, in beta I think? And Played it for a while, but now when trying to log in it's telling me I don't have a premium account. I have emailed the support email like 10 times.. I even have the paypal receipt for when I purchased the game..
#44 [00:32] <criptaco> Anyone have any ideas?
#45 [00:32] <joe> no problem
#46 [00:32] <aetherian> Dragonbut: ps -aux :D
#47 [00:33] <Dragonbut> What?
#48 [00:33] <joe> Dragonbut: it's a command to view processes in shell
#49 [00:33] <aetherian> kill -9 ftw
#50 [00:33] <mitpatterson> criptaco, is that your user name as well?
#51 [00:33] <mitpatterson> !paid criptaco
#52 [00:34] <criptaco> no that's not my user name, user name should be ajestrella
#53 [00:34] <mitpatterson> !paid ajestrella
#54 [00:34] <aetherian> though I may recommend ps -aux | less ...
#55 [00:34] <mitpatterson> !paid ajestrella
#56 [00:34] <aetherian> le gasp!
#57 [00:34] <mitpatterson> so either you really didn't pay, or the system goofed
#58 [00:34] <aetherian> pay for it now :D
#59 [00:35] <mitpatterson> criptaco, did you pay with paypal? or credit card?
#60 [00:35] <criptaco> Well I did pay, like I said I have the paypal receipt, used a debit card through paypal
#61 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> criptaco - Then send another email to payment@mojang.com, and CC a copy to daniel@mojang.com
#62 [00:35] <mitpatterson> aetherian, do you have a email for him to send that to(the reciept)
#63 [00:35] <criptaco> I have no problem buying it again.. not trying to get it for free again, I just have no way of knowing if this will happen to me again..
#64 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> They'll get you squared away
#65 [00:36] <mitpatterson> or GreyVulpine that works too( aetherian )
#66 [00:36] <criptaco> ALright I'll get on that, thanks guys
#67 [00:36] <aetherian> wha whozzat
#68 [00:36] <aetherian> oh
#69 [00:36] <mitpatterson> best of luck criptaco
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#72 [00:38] <mitpatterson> also, thanks AuBot for helping me help criptaco
#73 [00:39] * joe pushes AuBot
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#74 [00:40] <aetherian> haha
#75 [00:41] <aetherian> ooh ooh, dra- oh you left
#76 [00:41] <aetherian> top is nice...
#77 [00:45] <criptaco> Hey GreyVulpine, just letting you know I sent the email.
#78 [00:46] <criptaco> greyvulpine, I just forwarded the paypal email receipt, if that didn't work let me know
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#82 [00:48] <Arturo1667> how i can play muktiplayer!!!!
#83 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> You find an IP, put it in the multiplayer ip box
#84 [00:49] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, hit multiplayer and type the address fo the server
#85 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#86 [00:49] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#87 [00:49] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#88 [00:49] <Arturo1667> with another firends!
#89 [00:49] <mitpatterson> ask your friend for the IP or hostname of the server
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#91 [00:52] <Arturo1667> no is because i want to creat a map with somemods
#92 [00:52] <Arturo1667> and play with firend
#93 [00:52] <Arturo1667> s
#94 [00:52] <mitpatterson> then you need to CREATE
#95 [00:52] <mitpatterson> a server
#96 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to make a server
#97 [00:53] <mitpatterson> grey, run vox's command for that
#98 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> !server
#99 [00:55] <Arturo1667> in that program
#100 [00:55] <Arturo1667> only says
#101 [00:55] <Arturo1667> creating land
#102 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Then use your minecraft client, connect with 127.0.0.1
#103 [00:56] <Arturo1667> how
#104 [00:56] <aetherian> going into multiplayer and typing in 127.0.0.1
#105 [00:56] <Arturo1667> in minecraft I click multiplayer and I type 127.0.0.1
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#107 [00:57] <asdf> hi
#108 [00:57] <aetherian> asdf
#109 [00:58] <asdf> how much does minecraft cost in USD?
#110 [00:58] <mitpatterson> ~$21
#111 [00:58] <Arturo1667> hey
#112 [00:58] <aetherian> $21.6510
#113 [00:58] <Arturo1667> were i can buy a server
#114 [00:58] <mitpatterson> hence my "~"
#115 [00:59] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, if you are hosting it your self you don't purchase the server, but if youw ant someone else to host it, then i think there is a link on the minecraft wiki
#116 [00:59] <asdf> is there any way to try the game out before buying it?
#117 [01:00] <mitpatterson> not really asdf you can try classic, its similar
#118 [01:00] <xolotl> asdf: Not really, unfortunately
#119 [01:00] * xolotl shakes a fist at mitpatterson
#119 [01:00] <mitpatterson> xolotl, lol
#120 [01:00] <Arturo1667> hey if
#121 [01:00] <xolotl> I would disagree about Classic being similar, though. Beta is a very different game
#122 [01:00] <mitpatterson> xolotl, i never said the same, i just mean its the same concept, you build stuff with blocks
#123 [01:00] <Arturo1667> I put 127.0.0.1 and I¿m only falling
#124 [01:01] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, are you running the server file?
#125 [01:01] <Arturo1667> yes
#126 [01:01] <xolotl> mitpatterson: I'd argue that the overall experience (and requirements to play, etc, if he's concerned about computer specs, etc) is very different though
#127 [01:01] <mitpatterson> what OS?
#128 [01:01] <mitpatterson> xolotl, well yah
#129 [01:01] <asdf> I know this might be a bias question considering the channel I'm asking in :P but.... is it worth it?
#130 [01:01] <mitpatterson> yes
#131 [01:01] <xolotl> If you want to try out Minecraft to see if it'll run well on your computer, Classic will not tell you that.
#132 [01:01] <mitpatterson> worth every penny
#133 [01:01] <xolotl> Heh
#134 [01:02] <xolotl> asdf: I've played little else since I bought it last August-or-whenever
#135 [01:02] <xolotl> Then, I don't do much gaming in general, so I'm not a good samplesize
#136 [01:02] <mitpatterson> xolotl, check the minecraft stuff, it says what the min reqs are, so that will give you an idea if you can even run it
#137 [01:02] <xolotl> mitpatterson: Yeah, but Minecraft does seem tetchy about random things. Comps you'd expect to run it fine might not because of weird driver issues or whatever.
#138 [01:03] <mitpatterson> xolotl, yah
#139 [01:03] <asdf> I'm sure my computer can run it.. its just $21 isn't something I wanna just spend away, so I'm trying to do some research on it beforehand
#140 [01:03] <xolotl> I would definitely like to see Mojang put out a legit demo for it
#141 [01:03] <mitpatterson> just remember asdf and xolotl from the FAQ: If you can't get the game to run, you can request a refund within one week of purchasing the game.
#142 [01:04] <xolotl> asdf: Just keep in mind that it *is* beta, and things *will* break from time to time. IMO it's way worth it though.
#143 [01:04] <Arturo1667> HEYYYYYYY!!!!!!!
#144 [01:04] <Arturo1667> ERBOIFJEWIOBGFWENJGTRQEGHQ
#145 [01:04] <Arturo1667> NJLKJFDSGHNJIKAEHHUGSÑHJSNGÑEW.-TLHNGEÑLWRUHTG
#146 [01:04] <mitpatterson> WTF Arturo1667
#147 [01:04] <Arturo1667> with that program
#148 [01:04] <mitpatterson> what os are you on Arturo1667
#149 [01:05] <Arturo1667> alway the server is going to be
#150 [01:05] <Arturo1667> 127.....
#151 [01:05] <Arturo1667> all of you connect to these server
#152 [01:05] <asdf> the page says 14,65. I'm assuming the comma is basically a decimal for cents translating to $21 when converted.
#153 [01:05] <Arturo1667> 127.0.0.1
#154 [01:05] <mitpatterson> 127 is a loop back address
#155 [01:06] <mitpatterson> it is NOT internet routable
#156 [01:06] <Arturo1667> ?
#157 [01:06] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, and you have to have ports fowarded on your router in order for anyone to connect
#158 [01:06] <xolotl> asdf: Yeah, commas for decimal points is somwhat common out there
#159 [01:07] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, 127.0.0.1 means that is never really leaves your machine(computer) in order to get your "internet" address go to something like whatismyip.com
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#161 [01:09] <danl> is there anyway to scale down the chat in the client when you fullscreen?
#162 [01:09] <xales> Not without a mod
#163 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#164 [01:09] <asdf> ctrl-r type cmd, then ipconfig
#165 [01:09] <danl> Didn't think so
#166 [01:09] <Arturo1667> but i want to create a server where all the people can ENTER!!!
#167 [01:10] <Arturo1667> : (
#168 [01:11] <Slakker> hello?
#169 [01:11] <Arturo1667> :s
#170 [01:11] <xales> Slakker: Just say what you need help with
#171 [01:11] <xales> Arturo1667: Then do that...
#172 [01:11] <asdf> danl: hold your mouse over the window, hold down ctrl and scroll your mouse wheel
#173 [01:11] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, go here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server if it doesn't make sense then come back
#174 [01:11] <Slakker> hi.. is there anyway to wipe my minecraft install w/out losing my save games?
#175 [01:11] <Arturo1667> To create a Server where any person can enter and play with me !!!!
#176 [01:11] <danl> asdf: funny, does absolutely nothing for mc
#177 [01:12] <xales> Slakker: Just go to Options->Force Update in the launcher
#178 [01:12] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, err here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
#179 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes, delete everything in .minecraft except for the saves folder
#180 [01:12] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, this part in particlar: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Connect_to_the_Minecraft_Server
#181 [01:13] <asdf> danl: hm, if you're using IE or Firefox that should basically zoom in or out
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#183 [01:13] <Slakker> I already copied my save folder and then deleted the minecraft folder, reinstalled game and copied my save back, then logged in, opened my game and still crashing. So I think my save is corrupt
#184 [01:14] <xales> Can you pastebin the error?
#185 [01:14] <danl> asdf: what if I'm not using the browser client :-P
#186 [01:14] <xales> (http://pastebin.com/ )
#187 [01:14] <danl> I use the app, not the browser
#188 [01:15] <Slakker> sometimes it gives an error with the option to copy/paste it to the devs but its not allowing me to copy it to my clipboard
#189 [01:15] <asdf> if I get an account how to I find servers to log on to?
#190 [01:15] <Slakker> other times it just crashes to desktop with no error
#191 [01:15] <xales> Can you type the first part (or all) of it?
#192 [01:15] <xales> ??> asdf smp/servers
#193 [01:15] <VoxelHead> asdf: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#194 [01:15] <VoxelHead> asdf: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#195 [01:16] <xales> Slakker: it does sound like a corrupt save, yes
#196 [01:16] <xales> could be a texture pack as well, however
#197 [01:16] <Slakker> I've cut out all the mods except kept the texture pack but this texture pack is up to date
#198 [01:17] <Arturo1667> D: I dont understand NOTHING
#199 [01:17] <asdf> speaking of textures in the game, is there a way to replace them client side?
#200 [01:17] <xales> Arturo1667: Then don't run a server
#201 [01:17] <Arturo1667> :(
#202 [01:17] <xales> asdf: yes, with texture packs
#203 [01:18] <xales> Slakker: try going to the .minecraft folder, and renaming the entire folder to something like "minecraftbackup"
#204 [01:18] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, read this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server#General_recommendations pay attention to number 6 of the general recommendations
#205 [01:18] <asdf> Arturo1667: setting up a server is never straight forward for any service. Expect it to take time to figure out. You're doing the right thing by asking though
#206 [01:18] <Slakker> I know whats causing the crash.. its with a certain chest in my house. I have like 8 chests and can open all of them, but this one if I open it I crash to the desktop.. could just destroy the chest and go about my life, but thought posting this would help with my end of the beta test
#207 [01:19] <Slakker> actually, I don't know if I can interact with it at all.. haven't tried to destroy it, but its got like 64 diamond ore in it.. :)
#208 [01:20] <Arturo1667> hEY MITPATTERSON
#209 [01:20] <mitpatterson> what?
#210 [01:20] <Slakker> okay.. rename the folder, then reinstall and see what happens?
#211 [01:20] <Arturo1667> NOW IM HERE
#212 [01:20] <Arturo1667> AND THEN
#213 [01:20] <Arturo1667> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1027
#214 [01:21] <Arturo1667> WHAT I DO
#215 [01:21] <Arturo1667> WHERE I GO
#216 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> For the love of...
#217 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Caps, really?
#218 [01:21] <mitpatterson> just go here or something: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1027&t=205904&sid=3bd698414bfff4597b34a163134a3041
#219 [01:21] <mitpatterson> its just a bunch of threads with different hosting services
#220 [01:22] <Slakker> hmm.. I appreciate the suggestions.. but how would that do any better than me deleting the whole folder and then reinstalling?
#221 [01:23] <Slakker> its not game stopping.. I can play just fine as long as I never open that chest.. but just odd that its bugged
#222 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Slakker - What you're telling me, a certain chest on a map is causing you to crash?
#223 [01:23] <Slakker> yes
#224 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> If you'd like, a map editor would be able to remove that chest.
#225 [01:24] <Slakker> well... I was hoping I could fix the issue w/out having to destroy the chest. It's got tons of stuff in it
#226 [01:24] <xolotl> Slakker: You could make a backup copy of the world, load it in MCEdit and re-save, and see if that fixes it
#227 [01:25] <xolotl> Slakker: (stop the server first if this is SMP, of course)
#228 [01:25] <Slakker> I'm fairly sure I could just destroy it.. and for that matter.. I can play the game for hours with no issues as long as I don't try to open it
#229 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> For the items inside the chest, there's quite a few utilities that can give you those items
#230 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> InvEdit for SP being one of them
#231 [01:27] <Arturo1667> WHAT I HACE YO BUY OR DOWNLOAD I ONL,ONLY,ONLY!!!!! WANT TO PLAY LIKE THESE GUYS : https://www.youtube.com/user/BlueXephos#p/u/30/kPdi4dTCUJk
#232 [01:27] <Slakker> hmm.. okay.. so the issue I'm having isn't something to report to Mojang?
#233 [01:27] <mitpatterson> Arturo1667, you need to learn to now yell
#234 [01:27] <mitpatterson> not*
#235 [01:28] * xales kicked Arturo1667 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Chill out. If you can't figure it out, even with our help, then don't do it)
#236 [01:28] <mitpatterson> thanks xabo
#237 [01:28] <mitpatterson> xales,
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#239 [01:29] <Arturo1667> sorry
#240 [01:29] <xolotl> Slakker: If you'd want to zip up your world dir and post it somewhere, I could take a look if you want
#241 [01:29] <asdf> how do you talk in chat in minecraft?
#242 [01:29] <Slakker> anyway.. I guess its not, cause I was heavily using mods prior to the issue, so likely one of the mods corrupted my save somehow. The mods are all up to date though.. too bad I don't know which one caused this.. no worries though. Just wanted to throw this out and see what yall thought
#243 [01:29] <xales> asdf: T
#244 [01:30] <xales> Slakker: Thanks - definately not something to report, especially if you were using mods
#245 [01:30] <xolotl> Slakker: Oh, mods. Yeah, those are certainly the culprit.
#246 [01:30] <Slakker> Yeah.. but isn't Minecraft meant to run with mods? Else Mojang wouldn't have shown so much support for them?
#247 [01:30] <asdf> xales do you have a server?
#248 [01:30] <GreyVulpine> No, mods aren't officially supported
#249 [01:30] <xales> Nope
#250 [01:30] <Chr|s> November 11th woot
#251 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't frown upon them, but they don't officially support them
#252 [01:31] <xolotl> Slakker: Mojang is working on an official modding API
#253 [01:31] <asdf> is there a way to see what your character looks like to others?
#254 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Official support, in terms of a modding API, are in the works
#255 [01:31] <xolotl> Slakker: Until that's been released, all the existing mods exist in a kind of no-man's-land.
#256 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> That'll come after achievements are released in the roadmap for Minecraft
#257 [01:31] <Chr|s> asdf: yeah third person view
#258 [01:31] <Chr|s> what key is that?
#259 [01:31] <xolotl> Slakker: And Notch has actually explicitly stated that he's in general not fond of the Single-player mods we currently have
#260 [01:32] <Chr|s> I forget how to turn it on
#261 [01:32] <xolotl> (though that statement was from awhile ago, it's possible that he's changed his mind since then)
#262 [01:32] <Slakker> hmm
#263 [01:32] <xolotl> Slakker: The mods that he's been much more open to are serverside mods
#264 [01:32] <Chr|s> xales do you know?
#265 [01:32] <xolotl> (which is very likely where we're going to see the modding API first, IMO)
#266 [01:32] <Chr|s> how to enable 3rd person?
#267 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> F5, isn't it?
#268 [01:32] <xolotl> F5, yeah?
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#270 [01:33] <Chr|s> asdf: there you go
#271 [01:33] <Slakker> well, I guess if he'd offer the game in 128bit and have a minimap and a few more thingy's then I wouldn't need these mods.. lol
#272 [01:33] <Chr|s> asdf: also you can login to your profile and check it out, also change the skin
#273 [01:33] <Slakker> just kidding
#274 [01:33] <immortalisepic> i need some help, i have frogoten the email i used to register my account on and i frogot my password
#275 [01:33] <xolotl> immortalisepic: Do you still have a Paypal transaction ID?
#276 [01:33] <asdf> anyone know a good server to play on?
#277 [01:34] <xolotl> ('course if you had that, you'd probably have the email, too)
#278 [01:34] <immortalisepic> yes i do
#279 [01:34] <immortalisepic> i made the receipt in to a pdf
#280 [01:34] <immortalisepic> :)
#281 [01:34] <xolotl> immortalisepic: K, so forward that to payment@mojang.com (or is it payments@mojang.com ?) with some details; they may be able to help you out.
#282 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> payment@mojang.com
#283 [01:34] <immortalisepic> i all ready emailed support and they havent contacted me it's been 2 days
#284 [01:35] <xolotl> immortalisepic: It can take a bit; they're not the greatest at quick response times yet, unfortunately
#285 [01:35] <xolotl> immortalisepic: Wouldn't the receipt have the email address in there?
#286 [01:35] <asdf> is there a way to bring up a map?
#287 [01:35] <immortalisepic> no, my uncle bought it for me
#288 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> asdf - No\
#289 [01:35] <xolotl> asdf: Not in the vanilla client, no
#290 [01:36] <xolotl> immortalisepic: Ah, too bad. Not much to do at the moment, I'm afraid, and since it's the weekend I wouldn't expect anything for another few days.
#291 [01:36] <immortalisepic> i wish their was a way to type your nae in and see what email i used
#292 [01:36] <xolotl> immortalisepic: I'd definitely ping them again on Monday though
#293 [01:36] <immortalisepic> so i can check it, i have checked all the emails i rember
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#295 [01:37] <immortalisepic> ok xolot1 thanks i wish i could play minecraft i am sooooo bored
#296 [01:37] <asdf> omg it's got 3d
#297 [01:37] <xolotl> It is for reasons such as that which convinced me long ago that maintaining multiple email addresses was far more problematic than it was worth
#298 [01:38] <Slakker> hey.. got another question.. is this the channel to ask about how to get certain game features working? Like my issues in getting my powered minecart to push me up a hill? I've even added 2 more powered minecarts and it still won't work.
#299 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Slakker - Can you give us a screenshot?
#300 [01:38] <immortalisepic> yea, but i have emails for diffrent companys i own my personal and my spam
#301 [01:38] <xolotl> Slakker: Yeah, you can ask here
#302 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure powered minecarts work.
#303 [01:39] <asdf> someone point me to a good server to play on please?
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#305 [01:39] <xales> asdf: smp.shadow-craft.net is one that I like
#306 [01:39] <Slik> hmm.. got DCd
#307 [01:39] <asdf> thanks :)
#308 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> Slakker - Can you give us a screenshot?
#309 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> <+xolotl> Slakker: Yeah, you can ask here
#310 [01:40] <Slik> you want a screenshot of my train track where I can't go up it ?
#311 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#312 [01:40] <Slik> hmm.. okay.. send it where ?
#313 [01:40] <xolotl> Slakker: imgur.com ?
#314 [01:40] <xolotl> er
#315 [01:40] <xolotl> Slik: imgur.com?
#316 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Hey xales, have you seen this yet?
#317 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> http://pastie.org/pastes/1771060
#318 [01:41] <Slik> hmm.. lemme look at that site
#319 [01:41] <immortalisepic> Uhg, this is so stupid, i want to play minecraft!
#320 [01:42] <xales> ._.
#321 [01:42] <Slik> damn.. just found out I can't destroy my chest w/out causing the crash..
#322 [01:42] <xales> Just use a map editor, like MCEdit to do it
#323 [01:43] <immortalisepic> whats the command to register my nick?
#324 [01:43] <xales> ??> immortalisepic irc
#325 [01:43] <immortalisepic> ./msg nickserv pass email?
#326 [01:43] <VoxelHead> immortalisepic: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#327 [01:43] <VoxelHead> immortalisepic: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#328 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv register password email
#329 [01:43] <Slik> okay.. I'll look into those map editors and see if I can figure them out
#330 [01:44] <Slik> is there an in game screen shot taker ?
#331 [01:44] <immortalisepic> F2
#332 [01:44] <Slik> cool. thanks
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#334 [01:45] <immortalisepic> f2 takes screenshots and saves them to %appdata%\.minecraft\screenshots
#335 [01:45] <xolotl> Vaguely relatedly, I'd love it if Minecraft would put your current coordinates in the screenshot filename, somehow
#336 [01:46] <xolotl> Well, "love" is a strong word for that, I suppose.
#337 [01:46] <xolotl> s/love it/thing it was pretty neat/
#338 [01:46] <xolotl> bah
#339 [01:46] <xolotl> s/thing/think/
#340 [01:47] * xolotl wonders if EXIF information can contain random notes
#340 [01:47] <immortalisepic> SO BORED OF NO MINECRAFT!
#341 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> immortalisepic - Please stop..
#342 [01:47] <mitpatterson> why do people in here seems obseed with caps
#343 [01:47] <mitpatterson> tonights especsically
#344 [01:47] <immortalisepic> sorry cap lock was o
#345 [01:47] <immortalisepic> n
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#347 [01:48] <xolotl> immortalisepic: http://sc2.sourceforge.net/ <- there, that'll keep you occupied for awhile
#348 [01:49] <xolotl> (or http://forum.uqm.stack.nl/index.php?topic=4978.0 for the newer release candidate, though if you need a Windows installer I guess that's not ready yet)
#349 [01:49] <immortalisepic> nah, i guess ill learn java again
#350 [01:49] <immortalisepic> im on java gui :P
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#353 [01:54] <Slakker> okay.. screenshop saved on imgur.. what link do I post so you can see it ?
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#355 [01:54] <Slakker> screenshoT
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#357 [01:55] <xales> Slakker: right here
#358 [01:55] <Slakker> http://nibiru1221.imgur.com/all/
#359 [01:55] <Slakker> its the only one
#360 [01:55] <xales> err, you didn't need to make an account
#361 [01:55] <xales> and it's set as private
#362 [01:55] <xales> ._.
#363 [01:55] <Slakker> lol
#364 [01:55] <Slakker> oh well
#365 [01:56] <Slakker> I use alias's upon alias's anyway. :)
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#368 [01:56] <Slakker> That's the little hill as I have a HUGE hill too.. and the minecart can push the other minecart but just not with me in it
#369 [01:57] <Slakker> Lemme upload the big hill.. but it's redundant since the powered cart won't even push me up the little one
#370 [01:58] <mitpatterson> slaker your think is still set to private
#371 [01:58] <Slakker> gotta wait until the sun comes up..
#372 [01:59] <Slakker> huh?
#373 [01:59] <Slakker> what is ?
#374 [01:59] <mitpatterson> the imgur link
#375 [01:59] <Slakker> oh
#376 [01:59] <Slakker> sorry.. just set that up only to show yall.. lemme look
#377 [02:00] <Slakker> try again
#378 [02:00] <mitpatterson> k
#379 [02:00] <mitpatterson> it works
#380 [02:00] <Slakker> hmm
#381 [02:00] <mitpatterson> what textrure pack do you have loaded slakker?
#382 [02:00] <Slakker> odd.. now I can't see my picture on there
#383 [02:00] <xales> Slakker: Try putting a cart inbetween you and the powered cart
#384 [02:00] <mitpatterson> lol
#385 [02:00] <mitpatterson> Slakker, i only see one pic right now
#386 [02:01] <xales> (I don't think a powered minecart and push you up a 1/2 slope, but a booster can)
#387 [02:01] <Slakker> LB Photo Realism X128
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#389 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no
#390 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> You need at least a 1/3 slope
#391 [02:02] <Slakker> I was thinking maybe I need to space out the hills, but I"ve seen videos of people going straight up
#392 [02:02] <mitpatterson> there needs to be a way to make the actual angle of the pieces less, i know you can adjust the "rise over run"
#393 [02:02] <Slakker> I've seen ppl have 2 steam powered carts pushing storage carts up a steep incline..
#394 [02:03] <Slakker> Does the game treat us as we're heavier than a fully loaded storage cart ?
#395 [02:03] <mitpatterson> but yah, i have mine going up a bit, then level out with a booster, then some more rise, then a nother flat with booster
#396 [02:04] <immortalisepic> i <3 minecart mania
#397 [02:05] <Slakker> well.. I carved out the entire inside of a mountain and have my tracks going all through out.. and as long as they going level then all is good, but trying to get the carts up from the depths is fine as long as I'm not in one of the carts
#398 [02:06] <xales> I'd suggest using boosters rather than powered Minecarts
#399 [02:08] <Slakker> I wish I could show yall my entire dug out cave with mine tracks.. I guess I could with TONS of screenshots.. but I'm sure yall have seen it all before.. I just need to figure out how to get the train to carry me up.. cause all that mining is hard work. :)
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#401 [02:12] <Slakker> only been playing game for a few days, so.. not familiar with boosters.. but will look them up
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#405 [02:14] <Slakker> is there an easy way to tell me how to make a booster ?
#406 [02:15] <mitpatterson> look on the wiki
#407 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Slakker - Look on youtube, search for bob's minecart tutorials
#408 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> They helped me when I first started out
#409 [02:15] <Slakker> I'm scared to know this... cause I think it will mean I have to totally redo my interior tracks.. lol
#410 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Thems the breaks
#411 [02:16] <xolotl> You should be able to add in boosters to existing rail
#412 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> I have an underground fortress, which the redstone part is bigger than the actual living space
#413 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Got convoluted traps and doorbells and such.
#414 [02:16] <xolotl> Yeah, I love how much space even a simple doorbell takes
#415 [02:17] <Slakker> oh, I can imagine all yall probably have much bigger cities than me.. it just took me a long time cause I taught myself this part of the game as I went
#416 [02:17] <xolotl> Thank goodness for repeaters, now, at least.
#417 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> A simple twelve or thirteen note doorbell.. is huge.
#418 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Got FFVII's victory fanfare for a doorbell
#419 [02:17] <xolotl> nice
#420 [02:18] <xolotl> Okay, should've gone to bed an hour ago.
#421 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> heh
#422 [02:18] <xolotl> IRC's almost as bad as Minecraft
#423 [02:18] <xolotl> Just one more line!
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#425 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#426 [02:18] * xolotl waves
#426 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Laters xolotl
#427 [02:20] <Slakker> hmm.. so I gotta have a few spaced out 2nd tracks running next to my main track and something about the second cart boosts the main one? Do I do this with the powered cart or just a non powered as my main cart ?
#428 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> non-powered
#429 [02:21] <Slakker> can I have 2 non powered carts connected together ?
#430 [02:21] <Slakker> my issue is I have a storage cart as one and me riding the second
#431 [02:21] <Slakker> and need some way to get both of us up and out of the mine
#432 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Just have the storage cart go up first.
#433 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> er wait.. crap
#434 [02:22] <Slakker> guess I could have 2 primary tracks.. one for me using the booster to get me up and the other for my ore to be used with the powered cart
#435 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that might be best
#436 [02:23] <Slakker> This will just be to make the climb out of the mine but otherwise my carts work fine going on level tracks
#437 [02:24] <Slakker> guess this is going to take some experimenting.. Thanks for the suggestion though
#438 [02:26] <Slakker> hey.. I've only been playing SSP, but yall hve any good SMP servers for relatively new ppl to get into ?
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#441 [02:29] <xales> Slakker: smp.shadow-craft.net
#442 [02:29] <immortalisepic> YEAY, i made my first simple java calculator using gui :)
#443 [02:30] <Slakker> Okay.. hoping its not a PVP server.. just wanna relax and build stuff with like minded folks..
#444 [02:31] <immortalisepic> pvp is fun
#445 [02:31] <immortalisepic> im a pure survivalest
#446 [02:32] <Slakker> yeah.. PVP is fun in FPS environments like COD or MW2.. but these little games don't have enough combat features to make it fun.. I guess blowing people up would be fun though.. hehe.. but maybe once I learn more about the game, then I'll turn aggressive
#447 [02:35] <immortalisepic> umm WRONG
#448 [02:36] <immortalisepic> the whole fun of minecraft smp is living the night and day
#449 [02:38] <cosmo> personally I find blowing sheep, pigs, and cows into orbit with a cannon a great stress reliver
#450 [02:39] <xales> cosmo: O_o
#451 [02:39] * xales hasn't found a cannon that doesn't involve killing the {sheep, pig, cow}
#451 [02:40] <immortalisepic> i only use my cannon to blow up zombies
#452 [02:40] <immortalisepic> xales would you like to try my simple Calculator i coded in java?
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#454 [02:41] <xales> err, not really? :|
#455 [02:41] * xales can't run Java..at all..on this computer
#455 [02:42] <shaunh68> :(
#456 [02:42] <xales> shaunh68: ?
#457 [02:42] <shaunh68> what?
#458 [02:42] <immortalisepic> well look here is source
#459 [02:42] <immortalisepic> http://mibpaste.com/azaJzs
#460 [02:43] <immortalisepic> fail
#461 [02:43] <shaunh68> i need help with my password
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#463 [02:43] <cosmo> I hope I am asking in the right place, would anyone know where I can find the 1.3.01 version of the Finder Compass mod, all the thread (lhttp://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=205607)inks is the 1.4 version
#464 [02:43] <xales> shaunh68: send a password recovery mail, then
#465 [02:44] <xales> cosmo: why do you want a 1.3_01 version of it?
#466 [02:44] <mitpatterson> shaunh68, "We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. :
#467 [02:44] <shaunh68> how?
#468 [02:44] <cosmo> because the server I play on has not updated to 1.4. yet
#469 [02:44] <xales> shaunh68: http://minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#470 [02:44] <mitpatterson> shaunh68, when you go to log in, click "forgot password?"
#471 [02:45] <mitpatterson> cosmo, go yell at the server administrator
#472 [02:45] <xales> cosmo: if it's not on the forum, it's probably not around. regardless, we don't provide any help with mods, as they are unofficial, sorry :|
#473 [02:45] <cosmo> is there a channel I should ask about mods on?
#474 [02:46] <immortalisepic> http://miburl.com/7dd5w7 <----- epic
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#476 [02:46] <xales> cosmo: #risucraft might help
#477 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> I think risucraft's gotten grown tired of people asking for help
#478 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> Last few I've sent there, have gotten kick/banned
#479 [02:47] <xales> GreyVulpine: not really a help question, more of an "is an older version available"
#480 [02:47] * GreyVulpine nods
#480 [02:48] <immortalisepic> xales how u play minecraft on acompute that doesn't support java
#481 [02:48] <immortalisepic> WOW grammer/ spelling FAIL
#482 [02:48] <xales> It supports it fine, the resources are just too low
#483 [02:49] <xales> and I don't play Minecraft on here
#484 [02:49] <immortalisepic> lol
#485 [02:56] <immortalisepic> night
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#492 [03:29] <Wug> morning everyone
#493 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> G'mornin
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#495 [03:34] <Thoatt> bleh
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#501 [04:08] <mib_68fjjd> does any one know how to go taming the wolves? so far i have read that you feed them bones and this is supposed to tame them the only way I can figure to fed them is to drop the bones. How else do you feed them?
#502 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> No, you go up to the wolf, and right click on them with the bone
#503 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> It can take more than one bone, but a collar will magically poof on their neck when they're tamed
#504 [04:09] <mib_68fjjd> doesn't that strick them with the bone?
#505 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> No it doesn't.
#506 [04:10] <mib_68fjjd> right click, ok thanks I will try it again.
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#508 [04:19] <Wug> hey, I just set up a channel called #minecraft.mods
#509 [04:19] <Wug> people who come for help with mods could be directed there
#510 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> You sure?
#511 [04:21] <Wug> sure about what? sending people there?
#512 [04:21] * GreyVulpine nods
#512 [04:22] <Wug> I did kind of make it for that purpose
#513 [04:22] <AG_Scott> #minecraftmods is a better channel name ;P
#514 [04:22] <Wug> maybe
#515 [04:22] <Wug> I don't know much about mods, so I'll need help with stuff
#516 [04:23] <Wug> so anyone who knows lot about them, even if it's just one specific mod, should try to hang out there
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#520 [04:51] <Wug> an update on the modding situation
#521 [04:51] <Wug> xales has gone and created #mcmods
#522 [04:51] <Wug> so forward people there.
#523 [04:51] * GreyVulpine pokes xales, "This true?"
#523 [04:52] <xales> Indeed it is
#524 [04:52] <Wug> xales, can I be an op there?
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#526 [04:52] <Wug> i've heard there's some vote-in process >.>
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#528 [04:53] <xales> uh
#529 [04:53] <xales> ask AG_Scott
#530 [04:53] <xales> :>
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#540 [05:14] <Wug> ?? wtf
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#543 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#544 [05:35] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.78 seconds.
#545 [05:36] <Wug> !ping greybot
#546 [05:36] <NotiCon> !ping
#547 [05:36] <GreyBot> NotiCon Your Ping time was 0.468 seconds.
#548 [05:36] <Wug> !ping
#549 [05:36] <Wug> umm
#550 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> flood protect
#551 [05:36] <Wug> !ping
#552 [05:36] <GreyBot> Wug Your Ping time was 0.421 seconds.
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#554 [05:36] <Wug> !ping greybot
#555 [05:37] <Wug> it won't ping others?
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#557 [05:37] <NotiCon> i guess it wont ping it self
#558 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Uh, no.
#559 [05:37] <Wug> !ping noticon
#560 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> And the ability to ping others is easily abusable.
#561 [05:37] <Wug> ehh
#562 [05:37] <Wug> I spose
#563 [05:39] <Wug> how many actual people are ops in this channel?
#564 [05:39] <Wug> there are aubot, greybot, and vox, all bots
#565 [05:39] <Wug> are there others?
#566 [05:39] <NotiCon> Thoatt i believe isnt a bot?
#567 [05:40] <Wug> thoatt also isn't an op, hes just +v
#568 [05:40] <Wug> (half op?)
#569 [05:40] <NotiCon> is he?
#570 [05:40] <NotiCon> oh well guess this is just my interface thats broken
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#574 [05:50] <Lord_Helmchen> hey
#575 [05:50] <Lord_Helmchen> does anyone know why mcedit levels will be changed when you try to load them?
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#577 [05:53] <Wug> ??? what?
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#580 [05:55] <Necromann> Hello guys :D
#581 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#582 [05:55] <Necromann> I have a Problem with Minecraft, can i ask you a thew things?
#583 [05:56] <Wug> yes
#584 [05:58] <Necromann> A frend of mine was Interesstet in Miecraft so i Buyed him a code. But today he called me and said: "dude my Password is not Funktional anymore and when i call for a new passwort(forgot passwort) than i didnt get any E-mail.
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#586 [05:59] <Thunder1> hi :)
#587 [05:59] <Thunder1> i just bought mc
#588 [05:59] <Thunder1> how to change my avatar?
#589 [05:59] <Necromann> And now i looking for help. Is he just too dump for all of this or is there anything we didnt expektet yet :D
#590 [05:59] <Wug> thunder, you mean your skin?
#591 [05:59] <Necromann> Avatar change is easy :D
#592 [05:59] <Necromann> http://minecraft-skins.com/how-do-i-change-my-skin/
#593 [05:59] <lemon-rev> thunder1 you have to loginto the site minecraft.com and download the pre skin and redesign from there then upload it
#594 [06:00] <Thunder1> ok thx
#595 [06:00] <lemon-rev> necromann whats your friends nick on the game so i can cross check it with the bot ?
#596 [06:00] <Necromann> I did it with the minecraft-skins side
#597 [06:00] <Necromann> evan02
#598 [06:00] <Thunder1> is there a list with public servers of the new beta
#599 [06:00] <lemon-rev> !paid evan02
#600 [06:01] <lemon-rev> hm, on the fourms of minecraft fourms lol
#601 [06:01] <Necromann> lol the dumb... i sendet him a code and he said he used it.just wait i call him...
#602 [06:02] <lemon-rev> necromann, payment@mojang.com.
#603 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> ??> Thunder1 smp/servers
#604 [06:02] <VoxelHead> Thunder1: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#605 [06:02] <VoxelHead> Thunder1: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#606 [06:02] <lemon-rev> and wait up to 24 hours, could come back to you anytime
#607 [06:02] <Thunder1> thx
#608 [06:04] <Thunder1> wow there are much more server than the old mc had
#609 [06:04] <Necromann> The cool thing is i have my own Minecraft server <3 Love it
#610 [06:04] <Necromann> I play then with my Clan :)
#611 [06:04] <Necromann> So my frend is not at Home but i will kick his ass :)
#612 [06:04] <Thunder1> yeah i want to build where my buildings are not deleted every few days
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#614 [06:05] <Redemption47> hello
#615 [06:06] <Wug> hi.
#616 [06:06] <Redemption47> i'm Having MP problems with Minecraft.
#617 [06:07] <Redemption47> But I think it cant fixed until next update.
#618 [06:07] <Necromann> Wahts the Problem? =D
#619 [06:07] <Redemption47> I lag.
#620 [06:07] <Redemption47> But I have a good connection
#621 [06:07] <Necromann> Multiplayer?
#622 [06:07] <Thunder1> and how to use hacks in mc beta? i used wom client before
#623 [06:07] <Redemption47> yep
#624 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> There are no hacks in mc beta
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#626 [06:08] <Redemption47> there is like huge lentency time when I send messages on on server chat
#627 [06:08] <Necromann> Waht is Personal Computer Powers(Graphik card and stuff)?
#628 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#629 [06:09] <Redemption47> hold on I check for my computer stuff
#630 [06:09] <Necromann> Grey Vulpine...nice name maybe i will use it in a story i write xD
#631 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Rather you didn't.
#632 [06:10] <Wug> <GreyVulpine> There are no hacks in mc beta.
#633 [06:10] <Wug> lol
#634 [06:10] <Wug> anyway
#635 [06:10] <Redemption47> I got 4gb of Ram, Quad CPU 2.7 Ghz and a 2go graphic card
#636 [06:10] <Wug> can you use dxdiag?
#637 [06:11] <Redemption47> Thats what I did
#638 [06:11] <Wug> (I was talking to necromann)
#639 [06:11] <Redemption47> sry then
#640 [06:11] <Necromann> dxdiag? no why =p
#641 [06:11] <Necromann> ?
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#643 [06:12] <Wug> it tells you your computer specs
#644 [06:12] <Wug> win+r -> dype "dxdiag"
#645 [06:12] <Wug> type*
#646 [06:12] <Wug> hit enter
#647 [06:14] <Necromann> i dont get it :(
#648 [06:14] <Necromann> win+r is symply to much for me :D
#649 [06:15] <Necromann> Always Remember: Im Retarded =D
#650 [06:15] <Wug> uhh hold the windows key and hit R?
#651 [06:15] <Wug> are you on a mac?
#652 [06:15] <Necromann> No on windows but i dont see a windows key xD
#653 [06:16] <Wug> its probably between control and alt
#654 [06:16] <Necromann> ahh that you mean xD
#655 [06:16] <Necromann> foun it .D
#656 [06:16] <Necromann> :D
#657 [06:16] <Necromann> yes now im on the command :D
#658 [06:18] <Necromann> And now? =D
#659 [06:18] <Thunder1> is there a little tool to edit my skin?
#660 [06:18] <lukegb> ??> Necromann win/dxdiag
#661 [06:18] <VoxelHead> Necromann: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#662 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Thunder1 - Skinedit
#663 [06:18] <VoxelHead> Necromann: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#664 [06:18] <lukegb> GreyVulpine: yay, I remembered it :P
#665 [06:19] <Wug> or paint
#666 [06:19] <Thoatt> whowhatpeopletalkingaboutmewhy?
#667 [06:19] <Wug> ^ lol we may have mentioned you like 2 hours ago
#668 [06:19] <Thoatt> 5:39:22
#669 [06:19] <Thoatt> just noticed it >.>
#670 [06:19] <Thoatt> I've been busy lol
#671 [06:20] <Necromann> You know: I CAN PLAY MINECRAFT :D
#672 [06:20] <Necromann> But my frend not
#673 [06:20] <Necromann> So shouldent HE do it? =D
#674 [06:20] <Thoatt> studying for an FC element 2 test later today (in about 3.78h)
#675 [06:20] <Thoatt> FCC*
#676 [06:21] <Thoatt> And looking at a car I want lol
#677 [06:21] <Necromann> Why do you nedd all this Informations@ VoxelHead??? =D
#678 [06:21] <Thoatt> vox won't answer you...
#679 [06:21] <Thoatt> It's a bot. lol
#680 [06:21] <Morrolan> Necromann: He's a bot. :D
#681 [06:21] <Necromann> cool :D
#682 [06:21] <Thunder1> ui not as easy as i thought :)
#683 [06:22] <Thoatt> Necromann: You should be askinf lukegb why he wanted all that info :P
#684 [06:22] <Wug> voxelhead knows everything
#685 [06:22] <Thoatt> asking*
#686 [06:23] <Necromann> cool =D
#687 [06:23] * Thoatt gives vox some coffee
#687 [06:23] <Thoatt> he need it.
#688 [06:23] <Thoatt> :)
#689 [06:24] <Necromann> ??> Necromann Meaning of Life
#690 [06:24] * Thoatt goes back to studying
#690 [06:24] <Necromann> Not everything :/
#691 [06:24] <Thoatt> Necromann: 42
#692 [06:24] <Thoatt> xabo:
#693 [06:24] <Thoatt> xales: *
#694 [06:24] <Necromann> See,he DIDN´T knew it!
#695 [06:24] <Necromann> ^^
#696 [06:24] <Thoatt> you here? :)
#697 [06:24] <Wug> holy shit eclipse is bloated
#698 [06:25] <Wug> After this operation, 422MB of additional disk space will be used.
#699 [06:25] <Wug> gtfo my computer
#700 [06:25] <Necromann> Thoatt: Thx for the answer :D
#701 [06:25] <Thoatt> ++> "MeaningOfLife" = "42"
#702 [06:25] <Thoatt> something like that
#703 [06:25] <Thoatt> xales: !!!
#704 [06:25] <Necromann> xD
#705 [06:25] <Thunder1> preview broken on skinedit :(
#706 [06:25] <Thoatt> and Necromann ? the hell? lol.. i never gave you any answers...
#707 [06:25] <Wug> ++> life/meaning|42
#708 [06:25] <Thoatt> I'm here for sarcasm and redundancy, nothing more.
#709 [06:26] <Wug> my god eclipse
#710 [06:26] <Wug> you take longer to install than my os does
#711 [06:26] <Wug> y u suk
#712 [06:26] <Thoatt> That.... does NOT surprise me...
#713 [06:26] <Thoatt> 11.04 was sooo damn fast to instal...
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#715 [06:27] <Thoatt> seriosuly... 6.5 minutes, and my computer is hella slow now.
#716 [06:27] <Wug> 10.10 server took like 10 minutes to actually install
#717 [06:27] <Wug> much longer to configure the installation and longer still to actually make it work
#718 [06:27] <Wug> but I'm happy with it
#719 [06:27] <Thoatt> lol
#720 [06:27] <Wug> it hosts minecraft like a boss
#721 [06:28] <Thoatt> xD
#722 [06:28] <Necromann> 13:37
#723 [06:28] <Thoatt> NEIN! Das ist 6:23!
#724 [06:28] <Thoatt> 28*
#725 [06:28] <Thunder1> hier ist 12:30
#726 [06:28] <Wug> time zones?
#727 [06:28] <Wug> derp
#728 [06:28] <Thunder1> gmt+1
#729 [06:29] <Thoatt> -5 here
#730 [06:29] <Wug> ^
#731 [06:29] <Thoatt> est
#732 [06:29] <Wug> eclipse y u start so slow
#733 [06:30] <Thoatt> Wug: Y U NO USE VIM? oyy
#734 [06:30] <Wug> because vim are suck
#735 [06:30] <Thoatt> rof
#736 [06:30] <Thoatt> l
#737 [06:30] <Wug> I can't type sentences in it
#738 [06:30] <Thoatt> lol
#739 [06:30] <Wug> I CAN'T DELETE WORDS
#740 [06:30] <Wug> I hit delete
#741 [06:30] <Wug> AND IT RANDOMLY CAPITALIZES SOMETHING
#742 [06:30] <Thoatt> dude lol
#743 [06:30] <Thoatt> You suck @ vim
#744 [06:30] <Wug> I do
#745 [06:31] <Wug> but for the record I think emacs is stupid too
#746 [06:31] <Thoatt> i = insert mode lol
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#748 [06:31] <Wug> I know.
#749 [06:31] <Thoatt> +1... emacs sucks
#750 [06:31] <Wug> but it still doesn't delete
#751 [06:31] <Thoatt> gedit ftw
#752 [06:31] <Wug> ^
#753 [06:31] <Wug> I use gedit
#754 [06:31] <Wug> because it has TABS
#755 [06:31] <Wug> and emacs DOESNT
#756 [06:31] <Wug> and vim? FORGET IT
#757 [06:31] <Thoatt> well.. i use gedit in gooooies, vi/vim in ssh
#758 [06:32] <Wug> I just do x11
#759 [06:32] <Wug> forwarding
#760 [06:32] <Thoatt> rofl
#761 [06:32] <Thoatt> cli ftw
#762 [06:32] <Wug> and continue to use gedit anyway
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#764 [06:35] <Necromann> So jetzt nur wie immer bis 13:37 Uhr warten und dann auf den TS Joinen :D
#765 [06:35] <Thoatt> KEIN DEUTSCHER!
#766 [06:35] <Necromann> Sry in English: So, now i wait till 13:37 to Join TS³ :D
#767 [06:36] <Thoatt> Deutsch ist zu gut fur disen chat...
#768 [06:36] <Thoatt> das uber-sprechen.
#769 [06:36] <Necromann> Leetspeek is über sprache ;)
#770 [06:36] <Thoatt> NEIN
#771 [06:36] <Thoatt> NEIN NEIN NEIN
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#773 [06:36] <Thoatt> Deutsch ist die beste.
#774 [06:37] <Thoatt> kein wettbewerb...
#775 [06:37] <Necromann> God Damn it, use English dude,we are all International People, We are the World,we are the Children....i shut apologize for that...
#776 [06:38] <Thoatt> I'm not an international person...
#777 [06:38] <Thoatt> :)
#778 [06:38] <Necromann> Everybody woh dont have a home is International ;)
#779 [06:39] <Thoatt> I have a home :P
#780 [06:39] <Necromann> Damn it said it wrong,everybody except the one´s who dont have a home are International
#781 [06:40] <Thunder1> mh
#782 [06:40] <Thunder1> where can i see if my acocunt is activated as paid?
#783 [06:40] <Thoatt> What is your account name?
#784 [06:41] <Thoatt> Thunder1:
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#786 [06:41] <Thoatt> your account name?
#787 [06:41] <Thunder1> Thunderxp
#788 [06:41] <Thoatt> !paid Thunderxp
#789 [06:41] <Thoatt> It's activated
#790 [06:41] <Thunder1> mh
#791 [06:42] <Thunder1> maybe chrome bug with the upload
#792 [06:42] <Thoatt> Hey SlashLife :D
#793 [06:42] <Thoatt> upload of a skin?
#794 [06:42] <SlashLife> Hey there. :)
#795 [06:42] <Thunder1> yes skin
#796 [06:42] <Thoatt> The preview does not work correctly
#797 [06:42] <Thoatt> check in-game
#798 [06:42] <SlashLife> Thunder1: Upload doesn't SEEM to work; try it ingame.
#799 [06:42] <Thunder1> where ingame?
#800 [06:42] <SlashLife> Been wasting lots of time on THAT one as well.
#801 [06:42] <Thoatt> inventory window
#802 [06:42] <Thunder1> mh ok i try
#803 [06:42] <SlashLife> Upload your skin (well, you did that) and ingame check your inventor or press F5 for 3rd person mode
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#805 [06:43] <Thunder1> k thx
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#807 [06:43] <Thoatt> np :)
#808 [06:43] <murrok> hi
#809 [06:43] <Thoatt> Hello.
#810 [06:43] <murrok> could you help me on a problem?
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#812 [06:44] <Thoatt> ??> murrok ask
#813 [06:44] <VoxelHead> murrok: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#814 [06:44] <VoxelHead> murrok: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#815 [06:45] <murrok> when i play on my server, i always disconnected by the same reason : Error Internal exception Java.net.. all 5 minutes.
#816 [06:45] <murrok> how can i fix it?
#817 [06:46] <Thoatt> What EXACTLY does the error say
#818 [06:46] <Thoatt> pastebin the error please :)
#819 [06:46] <murrok> internal exception java.net.socketexception connection reset
#820 [06:47] <Thoatt> Does it happen on ALL servers? Or just one?
#821 [06:47] <murrok> just my server
#822 [06:47] <Thoatt> Well, I'll let Wug Handle this one... I gotta get back to studying :)
#823 [06:48] <Thunder1> can someone tell me how the seed for new world works?
#824 [06:48] <Thoatt> same seed, different computer, same map
#825 [06:48] <Thoatt> a 'asdfasdfasdf' seed map will look mostly the same on all computers
#826 [06:50] <Thoatt> For instance, if you start with the seed: 'thoatt' you will spawn on a desert with a floating sand island overhead
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#828 [06:51] <ItsCriminal> hey if i use on linux over console rm -rf Foldername, is it possible to get that back what i deleted
#829 [06:51] <Thunder1> ah ok
#830 [06:51] <Thunder1> i thought i can influence the look of the map
#831 [06:51] <Thoatt> ItsCriminal: not easily.
#832 [06:51] <Thunder1> like to have a map like an island
#833 [06:51] <ItsCriminal> ok
#834 [06:51] <Thunder1> in the ocean
#835 [06:51] <Thunder1> :)
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#837 [06:51] <ItsCriminal> but i need my map back ^^
#838 [06:51] <Thoatt> Thunder1: not really.. it's mostly gibberish(iirc that's what jeb said)
#839 [06:51] <Wug> itscriminal, why did you rm -rf your map
#840 [06:52] <SlashLife> Thunder1: The maps are generated more or less randomly.
#841 [06:52] <SlashLife> Thunder1: The seed is simply the starting value for the randomness ...
#842 [06:52] <ItsCriminal> no it wasnt meaned to delete that folder ^^
#843 [06:52] <SlashLife> It DOES influence the map, however, the generator is chaotic.
#844 [06:52] <Wug> murrok, what server software are you using?
#845 [06:52] <SlashLife> YOu will get the same result with the same seed and generator, *but* you cannot predict the changes to a map from the changes of the seed.
#846 [06:53] <Thoatt> "I've had psychologists try and tell me I'm a narcissist, but It's difficult to hear them talking over the sound of me being awesome."
#847 [06:54] <Thunder1> wtf its lagging like hell
#848 [06:56] <murrok> humm
#849 [06:56] <murrok> it's nitroserv which give me the server
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#851 [06:57] <murrok> i pay for have the server
#852 [06:57] <Bloodrayne1995> hey
#853 [06:58] * Thoatt waves
#853 [06:59] <ItsCriminal> Thoatt, would you like to help me, to get my map back ? :xD
#854 [06:59] <Thoatt> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linuxunix-recover-deleted-files.html
#855 [07:00] <Thoatt> It's going to be annoyingly difficult to get back a map folder
#856 [07:00] <ItsCriminal> i think too
#857 [07:01] <ItsCriminal> if i knew where the bin on suse linux is i could get it from there over WinSCP
#858 [07:02] <Thoatt> you said you rm rf'ed it... no bin
#859 [07:02] <ItsCriminal> oh ok ^^
#860 [07:02] <ItsCriminal> i still learn ^^
#861 [07:02] <Thoatt> :]
#862 [07:03] <Bloodrayne1995> can someone help me
#863 [07:03] <Thoatt> ??> Bloodrayne1995 ask
#864 [07:03] <VoxelHead> Bloodrayne1995: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#865 [07:03] <VoxelHead> Bloodrayne1995: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#866 [07:03] <Bloodrayne1995> why can´t i login
#867 [07:03] <Thoatt> have you purchased minecraft?
#868 [07:04] <Bloodrayne1995> i have 3 accs and the only works if i have a new ac
#869 [07:04] <Thoatt> (assuming you mean log into minecraft)
#870 [07:04] <Bloodrayne1995> no
#871 [07:04] <Bloodrayne1995> classic
#872 [07:04] <Thoatt> So you mean you cannot login to minecraft.net
#873 [07:04] <Thoatt> ?
#874 [07:04] <Bloodrayne1995> yes
#875 [07:05] <Bloodrayne1995> login throttled, too many attempts
#876 [07:05] <Thoatt> Wait a few minutes then try again
#877 [07:05] <Bloodrayne1995> but my friends can log into minecraft
#878 [07:05] <Bloodrayne1995> yes i have waited a halh hour and it dont works
#879 [07:05] <Thoatt> If it says that it's being throttled, that means that you are trying to login too often.
#880 [07:05] <Thoatt> Try to clear your browser's cache
#881 [07:06] <Bloodrayne1995> have it done already
#882 [07:06] <Thoatt> Have you tried a different browser?
#883 [07:06] <Bloodrayne1995> yes opera, firefox, iron and chrome
#884 [07:06] <Thoatt> Then idk.
#885 [07:07] <Thoatt> What does it tell you? Just that it's being throttled?
#886 [07:08] <Bloodrayne1995> "Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of time."
#887 [07:08] <Thoatt> Does it say that every time you try to login? even after waiting?
#888 [07:08] <Bloodrayne1995> yes
#889 [07:08] <Thoatt> Can you try to login with that account on a different machine?
#890 [07:09] <Bloodrayne1995> i have got a pc and a laptop, on both it dont works
#891 [07:09] <Thoatt> Then it is an account issue, which we cannot help with here.
#892 [07:10] <Thoatt> Try emailing Mojang.
#893 [07:10] <Bloodrayne1995> how?
#894 [07:10] <Thoatt> support@mojang.com
#895 [07:10] <Bloodrayne1995> oh ok. Thanks
#896 [07:10] <Bloodrayne1995> I try it
#897 [07:19] <Bloodrayne1995> can it be, that my dsl modem doesnt work fine
#898 [07:19] <Thoatt> It doesn't sound like that kind of issue.
#899 [07:20] <Bloodrayne1995> hmm but yesterday it worked
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#902 [07:25] <Wug> also, change your password. Change it to something long.
#903 [07:25] <Bloodrayne1995> do you mean me
#904 [07:28] <Thoatt> he means don't use the password: "mypenis"
#905 [07:29] <Bloodrayne1995> no
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#910 [08:06] <murrok> ok thx no solution to my problem. very well :/
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#914 [08:10] <Cjslick> Herro!
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#922 [08:57] <Thoatt> I'll be back later :D
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#933 [09:22] <Gangztaa> Hi! Was wondering about texture packs for MC. where can i find a site with these?
#934 [09:28] <Slakker> I got mine from: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1021&sid=541ae5574bf6a9bd8a0813053b5a81e2
#935 [09:29] <Gangztaa> thanks.. and what about servers?
#936 [09:30] <Slakker> I don't know about that. Only played SSP so far
#937 [09:30] <Gangztaa> Okay, me to o:P
#938 [09:30] <Gangztaa> too*
#939 [09:31] <Slakker> personally I think it would be good to get started fresh in a brand new one opposed to coming in with tons already built
#940 [09:31] <Slakker> brb
#941 [09:37] <Gangztaa> yeah
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#946 [09:55] <TheNytangel> !server
#947 [09:55] <Gangztaa> I'm looking for a pretty fresh server where i can build stuff
#948 [09:55] <TheNytangel> my server isnt very fresh.. but theres a lot of room around the town where you can build
#949 [09:56] <Gangztaa> cool. how many are on the serv?
#950 [09:56] <TheNytangel> atm, none
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#952 [09:57] <Gangztaa> usually?
#953 [09:57] <TheNytangel> a couple
#954 [10:00] <Gangztaa> chill. pc having fits
#955 [10:00] <TheNytangel> lol
#956 [10:01] <TheNytangel> just didnt want anyone else to see the IP
#957 [10:01] <Gangztaa> need to get vista off the system lol
#958 [10:01] <Gangztaa> oh, i see :)
#959 [10:02] <Gangztaa> 97% ram is loaded.. wtf is up?!
#960 [10:02] <Slakker> you running server and client on the same pc ?
#961 [10:02] <Gangztaa> nah
#962 [10:03] <Slakker> check task manager and see what the deal is
#963 [10:04] <Gangztaa> explorer.exe has 550mb but nothing else should have much effect
#964 [10:04] <Gangztaa> weird
#965 [10:04] <Gangztaa> 8gig ram
#966 [10:04] <Gangztaa> oh, it's going down
#967 [10:04] <Gangztaa> weird
#968 [10:04] <TheNytangel> i have 4 gb of ram :/
#969 [10:05] <Slakker> you on WIFI Gangztaa ?
#970 [10:05] <Gangztaa> nah ethernet
#971 [10:05] <Slakker> could be a keylogger ?
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#976 [10:32] <Dante107> hello
#977 [10:32] <Dante107> can someone help me :)?
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#981 [10:41] <yourdoom> Can you guys help? every time i run minecraft.exe i can login but when the game is about to start it closes
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#984 [11:06] <Parckwart> i've got a problem: when the game is loading it always stops when it says "done loading". what can i do?
#985 [11:07] <Parckwart> anyone here?
#986 [11:07] <TheNytangel> yeah
#987 [11:08] <Parckwart> can u answer my questsion pls
#988 [11:08] <TheNytangel> i have no idea
#989 [11:08] <TheNytangel> never happened to me
#990 [11:08] <TheNytangel> :)
#991 [11:09] <Parckwart> well that sucks
#992 [11:09] <TheNytangel> yeah
#993 [11:09] <TheNytangel> wait
#994 [11:09] <TheNytangel> no it doesnt
#995 [11:09] <TheNytangel> did you try redownload it?
#996 [11:10] <Parckwart> that also happens at the browser game
#997 [11:10] <TheNytangel> did you try restart your computer?
#998 [11:10] <Parckwart> no
#999 [11:10] <Parckwart> but i will now
#1000 [11:11] <TheNytangel> ok
#1001 [11:11] <Parckwart> c u
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#1006 [11:15] <Parckwart> didnt work
#1007 [11:15] <TheNytangel> :(
#1008 [11:16] <Parckwart> but minecraft.exe isn't anymore where i saved it lol
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#1010 [11:20] <SpamIam> Can someone help me with launcher issues?
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#1012 [11:24] <Ir0nman> Does essentials use an outside economy system? ex. i need essentials/iconomy
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#1030 [11:49] <onix> hi
#1031 [11:49] <TheNytangel> hey
#1032 [11:49] <onix> why am i lagging in multiplayer?
#1033 [11:50] <onix> my java is new... my internet is good. ..
#1034 [11:50] <TheNytangel> because the server hoster is far away?
#1035 [11:50] <onix> no
#1036 [11:50] <onix> about 15km
#1037 [11:50] <TheNytangel> RAM?
#1038 [11:50] <onix> my ram?
#1039 [11:51] <TheNytangel> task manager
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#1041 [11:51] <onix> the hoster have 3gb, and i have 1gb
#1042 [11:51] <TheNytangel> performance
#1043 [11:51] <TheNytangel> Task Manager -> Performance
#1044 [11:51] <TheNytangel> CPU Usage?
#1045 [11:52] <Ir0nman> did you install optimine?
#1046 [11:53] <onix> we are playing with tunngle
#1047 [11:53] <onix> if i play without tunngle i don't lagg
#1048 [11:53] <onix> so what's the problem?:S
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#1050 [11:55] <SlashLife> !paid slashlife
#1051 [11:55] <SlashLife> Mkay.
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#1065 [12:35] <BunZie> allright.
#1066 [12:35] <BunZie> i haz a small problem.
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#1075 [12:57] <raisin> hey ya
#1076 [12:57] <raisin> I just buyed mc
#1077 [12:57] <raisin> but I have a problem setting up a server
#1078 [13:00] <raisin> hm....
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#1080 [13:01] <mib_4vib16> hey ya
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#1082 [13:04] <andResin> hey guys
#1083 [13:04] <raisin> can you help me?
#1084 [13:05] <andResin> why when I use game booster my pc get the blue screen of death? :(
#1085 [13:05] <Ir0nman> something about RAM probably
#1086 [13:05] <Ir0nman> What type of PC do you have
#1087 [13:05] <Ir0nman> specs
#1088 [13:06] <andResin> 9500gt, dual core @ 2.0gh
#1089 [13:06] <andResin> 2gb ram
#1090 [13:06] <andResin> ddr2
#1091 [13:06] <andResin> but
#1092 [13:06] <andResin> when I use game booster on w7
#1093 [13:06] <andResin> my pc don't crash
#1094 [13:06] <andResin> and when Im playing on w xp it crash:/
#1095 [13:06] <raisin> how to set the server that I can punch away blocks?
#1096 [13:06] <raisin> on my server now the get recreated
#1097 [13:08] <Ir0nman> what plugins are you using?
#1098 [13:08] <andResin> me?
#1099 [13:08] <andResin> none
#1100 [13:08] <Ir0nman> no raisin
#1101 [13:08] <Ir0nman> idk why its crashing
#1102 [13:08] <Ir0nman> whats the bluescreen say
#1103 [13:08] <raisin> plugin? ....
#1104 [13:09] <raisin> I just want to play like single play
#1105 [13:09] <raisin> er
#1106 [13:09] <raisin> with two persosn
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#1108 [13:10] <DeniCevap> Hello, I'm starting out with Minecraft Coder Pack but I would like to know how to add Single Player COmmands into it...
#1109 [13:11] <raisin> do I need some plugins?
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#1111 [13:14] <raisin> pls help me andResin
#1112 [13:15] <DeniCevap> Hello, I'm starting out with Minecraft Coder Pack but I would like to know how to add Single Player COmmands into it...
#1113 [13:16] <[z]> ->#mcp-modding
#1114 [13:16] <Zymes> any redstone guru? how do I make a redstone remember it's state using a button? I don't want to use a lever
#1115 [13:16] <Zymes> redstone torch*
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#1118 [13:20] <charmander> i need help badly
#1119 [13:21] <charmander> anyone tht can help me?
#1120 [13:21] <Ir0nman> sup
#1121 [13:21] <andResin> raisin, I dont know how to fix that :/
#1122 [13:21] <andResin> I think maybe u should OP u and your friend
#1123 [13:21] <andResin> with /op nickname
#1124 [13:21] <Ir0nman> in the server window yeah
#1125 [13:22] <Ir0nman> he said server but then he said single player lol
#1126 [13:22] <andResin> somebody can help me with my problem? :/
#1127 [13:22] <Xav> I also need help.
#1128 [13:22] <charmander> ok i have a serevr all ready and stuff but when i go onto that server mothing appears but my guy
#1129 [13:22] <Ir0nman> Resin whats the bluescreen say?
#1130 [13:23] <charmander> so can anyone help me plz!
#1131 [13:23] <andResin> I dont know
#1132 [13:23] <Xav> I'll try. What is your problem?
#1133 [13:23] <andResin> theres a lot of words
#1134 [13:24] <raisin> my problem is
#1135 [13:24] <andResin> and it stays for 1 second
#1136 [13:24] <raisin> the blocks get created
#1137 [13:24] <raisin> after I broke them
#1138 [13:24] <Xav> Uh, i was talking to charmander
#1139 [13:25] <Ir0nman> raisin you must have some plugins installed on your server
#1140 [13:25] <Ir0nman> give you and your friend OP and see if it continues
#1141 [13:26] <andResin> wtf
#1142 [13:26] <andResin> my
#1143 [13:26] <Xav> Can someone help me?
#1144 [13:26] <andResin> savesa
#1145 [13:26] <andResin> saves*
#1146 [13:26] <andResin> are
#1147 [13:26] <andResin> gone!
#1148 [13:26] <raisin> OP?
#1149 [13:26] <Xav> Wha-
#1150 [13:26] <raisin> which plug ins
#1151 [13:26] <charmander> whenever i go onto my server it appears blank with just my guy
#1152 [13:26] <Xav> Same happened to me!
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#1154 [13:27] <Xav> can anyone help me? my save won't work in-game
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#1156 [13:28] <andResin> thats weird):
#1157 [13:28] <Xav> It really sucks. i worked hard on that one
#1158 [13:28] <Ir0nman> Raisin: go to server folder, find op.txt and add you and your friends nicks in there
#1159 [13:29] <Xav> does anyone know how i can fix this?
#1160 [13:29] <Wug> ?? saves
#1161 [13:29] <Wug> to fix your saves, open the world in mcedit and save it.
#1162 [13:29] <Xav> Ok
#1163 [13:30] <Xav> i'll try it
#1164 [13:30] <Wug> ??< help
#1165 [13:30] <TheNytangel> guys
#1166 [13:30] <TheNytangel> never make a nuke
#1167 [13:30] <TheNytangel> trust me..
#1168 [13:30] <TheNytangel> it just crashed my server
#1169 [13:30] <Xav> ???
#1170 [13:30] <Wug> ??< faq
#1171 [13:30] <Xav> a nuke?
#1172 [13:30] <Wug> ??<
#1173 [13:30] <TheNytangel> yes
#1174 [13:30] <Xav> what that
#1175 [13:30] <Wug> im talking to vox, in case you didn't notice
#1176 [13:31] <Wug> ??< commands
#1177 [13:31] <TheNytangel> a bunch of TNT
#1178 [13:31] <Wug> ??< index
#1179 [13:31] <Xav> Ok
#1180 [13:31] <Wug> how big was said nuke?
#1181 [13:33] <TheNytangel> 5x25
#1182 [13:33] <TheNytangel> then from the bottom of the map to the top
#1183 [13:34] <TheNytangel> lol
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#1185 [13:34] <Xav> holy shit
#1186 [13:34] <raisin> xav
#1187 [13:34] <TheNytangel> or possibly bigger
#1188 [13:34] <raisin> can you tell me which plugins?
#1189 [13:34] <TheNytangel> i used cuboid :P
#1190 [13:34] <Xav> what
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#1192 [13:36] <Wug> for the record, that's about 30 kilotons
#1193 [13:37] <TheNytangel> lol
#1194 [13:37] <TheNytangel> gotta love cuboid
#1195 [13:38] <TheNytangel> but stupid lava is stupid >:(
#1196 [13:38] <Wug> lol
#1197 [13:38] <Wug> I was stress testing my server
#1198 [13:38] <Wug> we had ~30 people on, and we'd done a huge tnt explosion
#1199 [13:39] <Wug> hand placed by one person, so maybe 1000 blocks or so
#1200 [13:39] <Wug> we all came to the crater and proceeded to fill that with tnt too
#1201 [13:39] <Wug> we got it full of probably 8 or 9 thousand blocks
#1202 [13:39] <Wug> AND THEN A CREEPER CAME ALONG
#1203 [13:39] <Xav> shit, man
#1204 [13:40] <Wug> blew up the whole pile and killed all of us
#1205 [13:40] <TheNytangel> lol
#1206 [13:40] <Wug> it was great
#1207 [13:40] <Xav> lol
#1208 [13:40] <Wug> server didn't even derp
#1209 [13:40] <Wug> anyway brb
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#1211 [13:41] <MinecrafterII> Hello? Is anyone there?
#1212 [13:41] <TheNytangel> nope
#1213 [13:41] <MinecrafterII> Well, I suppose I can say anything I want then, since there is no one to monitor it...
#1214 [13:42] <MinecrafterII> But for real, I'm having an actual problem
#1215 [13:42] <TheNytangel> yeah
#1216 [13:42] <Xav> What be it?
#1217 [13:42] <TheNytangel> and i set off a nuke and my server crashed
#1218 [13:42] <MinecrafterII> Minecraft won't work if I delete my META-INF folder
#1219 [13:42] <TheNytangel> thats my problem
#1220 [13:42] <TheNytangel> do you have any mods?
#1221 [13:42] <MinecrafterII> No
#1222 [13:42] <TheNytangel> then why did you delete the meta-inf?
#1223 [13:42] <TheNytangel> >.>
#1224 [13:43] <MinecrafterII> Because I was planning to
#1225 [13:43] <MinecrafterII> I don't get a black screen, but instead, minecraft gets stuck on the 'done loading' screen
#1226 [13:44] <TheNytangel> that happened earlier
#1227 [13:44] <TheNytangel> and i couldnt fix it XD
#1228 [13:44] <MinecrafterII> But did you?
#1229 [13:44] <TheNytangel> no
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#1231 [13:45] <MinecrafterII> But did anyone encountered something similar, and knows how to fix it?
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#1237 [14:03] <MinecrafterII> 15 minutes silence? Does anyone that recently joined know of my problem?
#1238 [14:09] <Xav> what
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#1240 [14:09] <Xav> how do you save in MCEdit?
#1241 [14:10] <MinecrafterII> crtl s
#1242 [14:11] <Xav> jesus, it's a ghost town in here.
#1243 [14:11] <Xav> oh ty
#1244 [14:11] <MinecrafterII> np
#1245 [14:12] <MinecrafterII> I'm out, I'll try again tomorrow
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#1248 [14:21] <Xav> I think MCEdit screwed up my world. i spawned inside of a rock and then respawned in the middle of nowhere. Strangely enough, I found a sword on the ground in a place i'd never been before. is ther an explanation for this?
#1249 [14:22] <Xav> hello?
#1250 [14:23] <Xav> ..............
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#1252 [14:23] <Xav> I think MCEdit screwed up my world. i spawned inside of a rock and then respawned in the middle of nowhere. Strangely enough, I found a sword on the ground in a place i'd never been before. is ther an explanation for this?
#1253 [14:25] <Xav> bread, you seem to be the only one here. Can you help me?
#1254 [14:25] <bread> doubt it lol
#1255 [14:25] <bread> I know nothing
#1256 [14:25] <Xav> ugh
#1257 [14:26] <Xav> then i might be screwed
#1258 [14:26] <Xav> :/
#1259 [14:26] <Wug> i'm here
#1260 [14:26] <Wug> it probably changed your spawn
#1261 [14:26] <Xav> would it do that by itself
#1262 [14:26] <Wug> yes
#1263 [14:26] <Xav> damnit
#1264 [14:27] <Wug> the world was corrupted, so mcedit had to regenerate the metadata
#1265 [14:27] <Wug> ?? meta
#1266 [14:27] <Wug> ?? metadata
#1267 [14:27] <Xav> What about the spawning inside of a rock?
#1268 [14:27] <Wug> what did you do in mcedit? just open and save?
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#1270 [14:28] <Xav> no, i looked around a bit first.
#1271 [14:28] <Wug> it probably moved you as well
#1272 [14:28] <Wug> inside the ground or something
#1273 [14:28] <Xav> oops
#1274 [14:28] <Jackson413> hey what is you guy's fav irc client?
#1275 [14:29] <Wug> it doesn't matter because your inventory was lost when the metadata was lost
#1276 [14:29] <Wug> xchat
#1277 [14:29] <Xav> Ok, what about the random sword?
#1278 [14:29] <Wug> no idea
#1279 [14:29] <Wug> i blame corruption
#1280 [14:29] <Wug> ?? lostworld
#1281 [14:29] <VoxelHead> lostworld: If a power failure or other event has caused your world to no longer appear in the list, try loading your world in a map editor such as MCEdit, and resaving it. That may correct the corruption and allow you to resume use of your saved world.
#1282 [14:29] <Wug> there it is
#1283 [14:30] <Wug> it's not the same as it was, but it's probably good enough
#1284 [14:30] <Xav> Well at least i had nothing on me when it got corrupted. And thank you.
#1285 [14:30] <Wug> the map seed was recreated too, so if you explore new terrain, it won't match up with existing terrain
#1286 [14:31] <Xav> really? shit
#1287 [14:31] <Xav> Does that mean my mine will be all fucked up?
#1288 [14:35] <Xav> hello?
#1289 [14:38] <Wug> you won't notice anything until you try to explore more
#1290 [14:38] <Wug> but yes.
#1291 [14:39] <Wug> everything that already exists will be unchanged
#1292 [14:39] <Xav> Ok, that works, i guess.
#1293 [14:40] <Xav> is there any easy way to find my house?
#1294 [14:40] <Wug> you can prevent this in future by making a backup of worlds you make as soon as they are created.
#1295 [14:40] <Wug> you could use mcedit again to move yourself back to it
#1296 [14:40] <Wug> and also move your spawn back to it's original location
#1297 [14:40] <Wug> its*
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#1299 [14:41] <Xav> ok
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#1301 [14:44] <TheNytangel> does anyone want to come help me with minecarts on my server? :)
#1302 [14:45] <Sintel> is it possible to convert a non-bukkit server to a bukkit server without disturbing the content of the world?
#1303 [14:45] <TheNytangel> i think so
#1304 [14:45] <Sintel> how?
#1305 [14:45] <TheNytangel> by copying and pasting the world folder\
#1306 [14:46] <Jackson413> hey what is you guy's fav irc client?
#1307 [14:46] <Sintel> okay i'll try that
#1308 [14:46] <TheNytangel> mIRC but i use xchat
#1309 [14:46] <Sintel> xchat is nice
#1310 [14:46] <TheNytangel> i have a bot that uses mIRC so i cant
#1311 [14:46] <TheNytangel> so anyone wanna do minecarts for me?
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#1314 [14:48] <SPaRT> hey guys
#1315 [14:48] <TheNytangel> >.>
#1316 [14:48] <TheNytangel> brb
#1317 [14:49] <Sintel> to make a bukkit server how do you save a text doc as a .bat?
#1318 [14:50] <TheNytangel> file save as
#1319 [14:50] <TheNytangel> highlight the text
#1320 [14:50] <TheNytangel> name.bat
#1321 [14:51] <TheNytangel> it should change it
#1322 [14:51] <TheNytangel> or make a new file that is the same, but .bat
#1323 [14:51] <Wug> ?? bat
#1324 [14:51] <Sintel> i use vista, and it doesn't have .txt at the end
#1325 [14:51] <Wug> XALES
#1326 [14:52] <TheNytangel> Sintel
#1327 [14:52] <TheNytangel> just highlight the file name that you are saving it as and name it whatyouwant.bat
#1328 [14:53] <TheNytangel> except replace whatyouwant with what you want
#1329 [14:53] <Wug> put the file name in quotes.
#1330 [14:53] <Sintel> oh ok thank
#1331 [14:53] * Wug pokes xales again
#1331 [14:53] <Sintel> sorry i might ask a few more questions as I go, im new to server making
#1332 [14:53] <Wug> dun worry about it
#1333 [14:54] <Wug> I'm trying to attract enough of xales' attention to get him to add an entry to voxelhead with batch writing instructions xales xales xales xales xales xales xales xales xales xales xales xales xales xales.
#1334 [14:55] <Sintel> lol
#1335 [14:56] <TheNytangel> now
#1336 [14:56] <TheNytangel> who wants to do my minecarts >:(
#1337 [14:56] <TheNytangel> :P
#1338 [14:56] <Wug> what exactly do you mean 'do your minecarts'?
#1339 [14:57] <TheNytangel> i want a booster to come and take one of my minecarts away
#1340 [14:57] <TheNytangel> :)
#1341 [14:57] <TheNytangel> with the push of a button
#1342 [14:57] <Xav> YES! It works once again! And the world is cooler now, too!
#1343 [14:57] <TheNytangel> Wug
#1344 [14:57] <TheNytangel> xales is away
#1345 [14:57] <Wug> mm?
#1346 [14:57] <Wug> i know
#1347 [14:58] <Wug> saying peoples names can magically attract them
#1348 [14:58] <Wug> for example: greyvulpine
#1349 [14:58] <oldtopman> oldtopman
#1350 [14:58] <oldtopman> Look, I showed up!
#1351 [14:58] <TheNytangel> :o
#1352 [14:58] <TheNytangel> magic
#1353 [14:58] <Wug> lolwow how u do dat
#1354 [14:58] <Xav> And it somehow got the saved world BEFORE one asshole creeper blew up my minecart track!
#1355 [14:59] <Xav> Thanks Wug
#1356 [14:59] <Wug> grey's obviously sleeping or something too
#1357 [14:59] <Wug> np xav
#1358 [14:59] <Wug> maybe iguana?
#1359 [14:59] <Xav> :)
#1360 [14:59] <TheNytangel> mollstam :D
#1361 [15:00] <Sintel> so Im making my minecraft bukkit server, and when I try and open the RUN.bat it tells me that it can't find something and will exit
#1362 [15:00] <TheNytangel> try start.bat?
#1363 [15:00] <Wug> moll is now grumbling to himself about being constantly poked by everyone on every channel for no reason
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#1365 [15:00] <Sintel> okay
#1366 [15:01] <StupendousMan> Wug
#1367 [15:01] <Wug> ?
#1368 [15:01] <StupendousMan> you here?
#1369 [15:01] <Wug> no,
#1370 [15:01] <StupendousMan> lol
#1371 [15:01] <Wug> i'm sleeping.
#1372 [15:01] <StupendousMan> here's that dump http://pastebin.com/cqH05cBK
#1373 [15:01] <StupendousMan> this is the java error I incur when I run the Latest minecraft
#1374 [15:01] <StupendousMan> cant play at all, it sucks
#1375 [15:01] <Wug> what are your system specs?
#1376 [15:02] <Wug> are you trying to play minecraft on a microwave?
#1377 [15:02] <[z]> minecrowave
#1378 [15:02] <Wug> we occasionally see people with ridiculous settings
#1379 [15:02] <Wug> specs*
#1380 [15:02] <Wug> like 512mb of ran, running windows vista
#1381 [15:02] <Sintel> Nytangel its telling me that it cant find com.mojang.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.
#1382 [15:02] <StupendousMan> i7 875K with 8GB of RAM, should handle a java applet
#1383 [15:02] <TheNytangel> ah
#1384 [15:02] <TheNytangel> no wonder
#1385 [15:02] <TheNytangel> i have no effin idea whatsoever
#1386 [15:02] <StupendousMan> ;-)
#1387 [15:03] <Wug> stupendous, what graphics card
#1388 [15:03] <StupendousMan> ATI 5870
#1389 [15:03] <Sintel> oh lol
#1390 [15:03] <Wug> up to date drivers?
#1391 [15:03] <TheNytangel> :P
#1392 [15:03] <Sintel> thats too bad
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#1394 [15:03] <StupendousMan> let me check
#1395 [15:03] <StupendousMan> should be fairly latest
#1396 [15:03] <TheNytangel> i *somewhat* specialize in port forwarding
#1397 [15:03] <TheNytangel> im still learning, but i can do it :)
#1398 [15:03] <Wug> you have an i7 with 8gb ram, so I'll assume you have a 64 bit os
#1399 [15:04] <StupendousMan> yeah Win 7 64-bit
#1400 [15:04] <Wug> do you have 64 bit java?
#1401 [15:04] <StupendousMan> both
#1402 [15:05] <Wug> do you have teamviewer?
#1403 [15:05] <TheNytangel> Nyt does
#1404 [15:05] <TheNytangel> Wug.. will you connect to me? :)
#1405 [15:05] <Sintel> so what am I going to do? is there any other way i can make this sever?
#1406 [15:05] <TheNytangel> lol
#1407 [15:05] <Sintel> :(
#1408 [15:05] <Wug> and nevermind, it doesn't really matter because I'm on linux
#1409 [15:05] <StupendousMan> teamviewer?
#1410 [15:05] <Wug> unless... *sudo apt-get install teamviewer*
#1411 [15:05] <TheNytangel> no idea
#1412 [15:06] <Wug> drat, it doesn't work
#1413 [15:06] <Sintel> okay whatever i'll just stick to my non bukkit server
#1414 [15:06] <Wug> it worked for wireshark
#1415 [15:06] <Wug> sintel - that's probably a good idea.
#1416 [15:06] <Sintel> lol
#1417 [15:06] <Wug> ive had nothing but issues working with bukkit
#1418 [15:06] <Sintel> without bukkit is there a way to still get mods?
#1419 [15:06] <Wug> you could always go to #bukkit if you're hell bent on making it work
#1420 [15:06] <TheNytangel> Sintel
#1421 [15:07] <Sintel> or is hey0's mod dead
#1422 [15:07] <Wug> anyway, stupendousman
#1423 [15:07] <TheNytangel> Sintel: http://www.canarymod.net/
#1424 [15:07] <TheNytangel> that is the new hMod
#1425 [15:07] <Sintel> :D
#1426 [15:07] <Sintel> so i can get mods and shtuff?
#1427 [15:07] <StupendousMan> Wug - I get the same Error on an AMD64 3500+ with 2GB of RAM running Windows XP
#1428 [15:07] <TheNytangel> oh wait
#1429 [15:07] <TheNytangel> those are plugins :)
#1430 [15:07] <Wug> do you have knowledge of command line use?
#1431 [15:07] <Wug> or is doing cmd stuff a bad idea
#1432 [15:08] <StupendousMan> and I tried two virtual machines Linux/WinXP on my i7 Box and no luck
#1433 [15:08] <Sintel> lol im confused, sorry im new to this
#1434 [15:08] <TheNytangel> never mind
#1435 [15:08] <TheNytangel> go to http://www.canarymod.net/
#1436 [15:08] <TheNytangel> click "downloads" and a menu should drop down
#1437 [15:08] <Sintel> okay
#1438 [15:08] <TheNytangel> click "latest"
#1439 [15:08] <Wug> it seems like it may be a video card issue
#1440 [15:08] <StupendousMan> yeah, does the windows version have a command line?
#1441 [15:08] <Wug> well, windows does
#1442 [15:08] <Wug> win+r ---> cmd ---> enter
#1443 [15:09] <StupendousMan> no I mean does the Windows Standalone Minecraft.exe have command line switches
#1444 [15:09] <Wug> I think it does, but I was going to troubleshoot java a bit first
#1445 [15:09] <Sintel> Nytangel the egg that says h3?
#1446 [15:09] <StupendousMan> oh ok, lets roll in that direction then
#1447 [15:09] <Wug> I know you can invoke it explicitly with java command line options
#1448 [15:09] <TheNytangel> what?
#1449 [15:09] <Wug> pull up command prompt
#1450 [15:09] <Sintel> is that the download?
#1451 [15:09] <TheNytangel> Sintel hold on
#1452 [15:10] <TheNytangel> lets do this in private chat. WUG IS TOO NOISY
#1453 [15:10] <Wug> i'll go to pm
#1454 [15:10] <TheNytangel> lol
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#1458 [15:21] <MajorMayjor> Can anyone help me with a problem I've got? I can't play Minecraft because when I try to log in, it just shows up as a black screen.
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#1466 [15:42] <Xav|Away> Eh... I need help with WorldEdit.
#1467 [15:44] <Kealper> oh joy.....
#1468 [15:44] * Kealper is now a licensed ham radio operator
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#1469 [15:46] <Kealper> just have to wait for the FCC to give me a call sign...which should be within a week
#1470 [15:46] <Wug> xav, that's a mod right?
#1471 [15:47] <Xav|Away> No, editing tool.
#1472 [15:47] <Kealper> worldedit is both a mod and an editor, isn't it?
#1473 [15:47] <xav> It is?
#1474 [15:47] <xav> Well this is the editor
#1475 [15:47] <Kealper> idk, don'e you do all the editing from ingame?
#1476 [15:47] <Wug> do you mean mcedit?
#1477 [15:47] <Kealper> don't*
#1478 [15:48] <xav> No.
#1479 [15:48] <Kealper> because worldedit is (used to be) an editor that was done ingame
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#1481 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Worldedit is a bukkit plugin, so you can edit SMP worlds from ingame
#1482 [15:48] <xav> Really?
#1483 [15:48] * GreyVulpine nods
#1483 [15:48] <xav> lol, ok
#1484 [15:48] <yazik> Can someone help me with licensing/pre-purchase? Had some questions before I commit my spare cash. :-)
#1485 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#1486 [15:50] <yazik> Thinking about buying the game - would love to play it with my son. For us to play together is a single household licensed or will we need two licenses?
#1487 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> You would need 2
#1488 [15:50] <Wug> you will need 2
#1489 [15:50] <yazik> Thanks
#1490 [15:50] <Wug> the online system works on a per account basis.
#1491 [15:50] <yazik> gotcha
#1492 [15:51] <Wug> you could use the same installation on 2 different computers,
#1493 [15:51] <Wug> but if they both tried to login to the same server, it would kick whoever was already logged in
#1494 [15:51] <Wug> sorry.
#1495 [15:51] <yazik> no need to be sorry, your rules. :)
#1496 [15:51] <yazik> or mojang/notch's hehe
#1497 [15:52] <yazik> just heard folks talk a lot about the game and i decided to try the free/web version this morning. game's in my wheelhouse - exploration, adventure, build, craft, etc. worth supporting.
#1498 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
#1499 [15:55] <yazik> thanks again, take care.
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#1503 [16:02] <VoiceofTreason> Grey whats your story? You are always here, are you the creator?
#1504 [16:03] <VoiceofTreason> Or you just have too much brains and minecraft know-how to waste?
#1505 [16:04] <VoiceofTreason> I have a problem if anyone has an answer. One of my users on SMP is having problems just all of the sudden with loading the map and playing in the server world
#1506 [16:05] <aetherian> define problems
#1507 [16:05] <aetherian> and if possible, it would be easier if you could direct him to here, rather than being the middle man.
#1508 [16:05] <aetherian> and grey is just always connected (or nearly always) whether he's here or not.
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#1510 [16:10] <TheNytangel> ok i put the planes mod on my friends server and i try to connect and it says "End of stream"
#1511 [16:10] <TheNytangel> and now it says "Bad Packet ID 200"
#1512 [16:10] <aetherian> then remove the mod, it obviously doesn't work
#1513 [16:11] <VoiceofTreason> I have worked with grey before, just wondering about him, the problems are server related it seems, he is getting socket exception erros that say something about failure of software...sec more
#1514 [16:12] <aetherian> why don't you put him on the line
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#1517 [16:14] <VoiceofTreason> Because he isnt on, he was having no problems until we explored and increased the world map and this is a common prob for players I have found
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#1519 [16:15] <VoiceofTreason> My question isnt really about his problem, its about editting the world folder/files
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#1521 [16:15] <aetherian> I'd recommend, ah, what was the name, MCedit, I believe. let me check.
#1522 [16:15] <aetherian> yeah
#1523 [16:16] <VoiceofTreason> Also, is voice on irc like ventrillo? I dont use it much
#1524 [16:16] <aetherian> voice on irc is a status symbol, effectively
#1525 [16:16] <VoiceofTreason> But have everything to use voice...are you guys chatting it up now?
#1526 [16:16] <VoiceofTreason> I could understand that too
#1527 [16:16] <aetherian> as in, recognized person of the channel, or person on the channel that they don't want to have op
#1528 [16:17] <aetherian> but still want to rank
#1529 [16:17] <aetherian> IRC is (almost) just text
#1530 [16:17] <VoiceofTreason> So its not voice comm
#1531 [16:17] <aetherian> there is no voice communication
#1532 [16:17] <VoiceofTreason> kk, last time i rlly used irc before mchelp was a long time ago lol
#1533 [16:18] <aetherian> Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is a form of real-time Internet text messaging (chat) or synchronous conferencing.
#1534 [16:18] <aetherian> :D
#1535 [16:18] <aetherian> (first sentence of wikipedia)
#1536 [16:18] <VoiceofTreason> I understand, but it doesnt mean people might implement voice comm
#1537 [16:18] <VoiceofTreason> :)
#1538 [16:19] <aetherian> I...
#1539 [16:19] <aetherian> anyway
#1540 [16:19] <VoiceofTreason> r.-1.-1.mcr An example of a chunk file I presume? Can they be deleted without causes other problems?
#1541 [16:19] <VoiceofTreason> lol
#1542 [16:19] <aetherian> I would not recommend just going in and deleting files
#1543 [16:19] <VoiceofTreason> So ill look up mcedit :)
#1544 [16:20] <VoiceofTreason> Thanks you have been helpful
#1545 [16:20] <VoiceofTreason> Do you know if it is bukkit compatible?
#1546 [16:20] <aetherian> it's map save data compatible
#1547 [16:20] <VoiceofTreason> Does everything outside of server files i guess
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#1555 [17:10] <SPaRT> hey guys
#1556 [17:10] <SPaRT> can somebody help us please`?
#1557 [17:10] <SPaRT> we messed up our automatic door
#1558 [17:10] <xales> With?
#1559 [17:11] <xales> messed up how?
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#1561 [17:11] <saucerhead> hey can someone help me out?
#1562 [17:11] <SPaRT> destroyed anything with redstone and have no idea what exactly -.-
#1563 [17:11] <xales> saucerhead: With?
#1564 [17:11] <saucerhead> ok so i just bought mine craft and it says my video card wont run it? LOl and i play wow so i know i can run it or is this game more complex with graphics?
#1565 [17:12] <saucerhead> says it cant generate the pixels?
#1566 [17:12] <xales> SPaRT: It depends on exactly what you want to do. The simplest "automatic" door is one connected to a pressure plate immediately next to it
#1567 [17:12] <xales> saucerhead: you need to update the driver
#1568 [17:12] <saucerhead> how do i do that?
#1569 [17:12] <saucerhead> w/o paying for it
#1570 [17:12] <xales> ??> saucerhead win/dxdiag
#1571 [17:12] <VoxelHead> saucerhead: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1572 [17:12] <VoxelHead> saucerhead: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1573 [17:12] <xales> it doesn't cost money
#1574 [17:12] <SPaRT> xales: yeah i know but this system is a bit complex...
#1575 [17:12] <xales> SPaRT: well, I can't help unless I know what you want to do
#1576 [17:13] <SPaRT> somebody else build it and i am not familiar with redstone stuff
#1577 [17:13] <SPaRT> repair it ^^
#1578 [17:13] <saucerhead> any of you guys have teamviwer so you can do it for me? PLEASE i beg you haha i watn to paly so bad
#1579 [17:13] <xales> saucerhead: not at the moment. just follow the instructions and I'll give you the link to what you need to install
#1580 [17:13] <saucerhead> win=r kesy? wheres the win key
#1581 [17:13] <saucerhead> ]win+r key
#1582 [17:14] <xales> the Win(dows) key is the one between control and alt
#1583 [17:14] <aetherian> the one with the wavy thing.
#1584 [17:14] <xales> aetherian: really depends on the keyboard. the actual name of the key is the "super" key, in the same way that "alt" is actually "meta" - my keyboard labels them as such :)
#1585 [17:15] <aetherian> oh, whatever
#1586 [17:15] <aetherian> then why call it the win key :o confuse them and say press the super+r keys :D
#1587 [17:16] <saucerhead> do i click save all info?
#1588 [17:16] <xales> Yes
#1589 [17:20] <saucerhead> k after i click submit with the info what i do?
#1590 [17:21] <saucerhead> is says RAW paste data
#1591 [17:21] <aetherian> tell us the link.
#1592 [17:21] <saucerhead> no link
#1593 [17:22] <aetherian> what page are you on .-.
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#1595 [17:22] <Mixxit> hello i went to sleep and woke up logged into minecraft and now it gives me a black screen
#1596 [17:22] <Mixxit> i've deleted my appdata minecraft folder and reinstalled
#1597 [17:22] <Mixxit> ran windows update but no luck
#1598 [17:22] <xales> Are you using any mods?
#1599 [17:22] <Mixxit> what has changed since i have slept?
#1600 [17:22] <Mixxit> no
#1601 [17:22] <Mixxit> its vanilla
#1602 [17:22] <saucerhead> http://pastebin.com/NNt1Uq4v
#1603 [17:22] <xales> Have you tried restarting your computer?
#1604 [17:22] <saucerhead> thats what i am on
#1605 [17:22] <Mixxit> yes i ran windows update to get all critical updates
#1606 [17:23] <aetherian> that's what we needed, saucerhead
#1607 [17:23] <saucerhead> oh lol sweet!
#1608 [17:23] <xales> saucerhead: one problem though...
#1609 [17:23] <aetherian> oh, that's not much ram. not much ram at all
#1610 [17:23] <saucerhead> yes?
#1611 [17:23] <xales> that computer is...ancient
#1612 [17:23] <aetherian> yeah
#1613 [17:23] <saucerhead> LOl ya
#1614 [17:23] <xales> it's far, far too old to run Minecraft
#1615 [17:23] <saucerhead> but i run wow so why cant i run minecraft?
#1616 [17:23] <aetherian> because minecraft is intense
#1617 [17:23] <saucerhead> run it just fine actually
#1618 [17:24] <xales> Minecraft isn't WoW, and has much higher requirements to even run it
#1619 [17:24] <xales> WoW can run at extremely reduced settings on most systems
#1620 [17:24] <aetherian> maw
#1621 [17:24] <saucerhead> ok so what do i need to get to be able to have a non ancient computer?
#1622 [17:25] <aetherian> a new computer...?
#1623 [17:25] <saucerhead> cant i jsut put in a new ram drive or video card?
#1624 [17:25] <xales> No
#1625 [17:26] <aetherian> I doubt your motherboard would be good enough
#1626 [17:26] <xales> It's too old to even upgrade to be able to play it
#1627 [17:26] <xales> It would be cheaper to get a new computer
#1628 [17:26] <saucerhead> welll FML haha i have another DELL comp that i can try running it on i guess
#1629 [17:26] <aetherian> now technically, I've heard of computers as low as yours playing it, (with better gpu), but those hardly run it on minimum everything at 5-10 fps
#1630 [17:26] <aetherian> heard of as in seen it in real life
#1631 [17:27] <xales> aetherian: that GPU is actually incapable of running it
#1632 [17:27] <xales> the CPU probably, as well
#1633 [17:27] <aetherian> that's what I said.
#1634 [17:27] <aetherian> I said the other ones had better gpus
#1635 [17:27] <saucerhead> not as old believe but that one wont run wow so will it not come close to running minecraft?
#1636 [17:27] <xales> You might as well try
#1637 [17:28] <aetherian> it may be able to play zork at least :D
#1638 [17:28] <aetherian> (heh)
#1639 [17:28] <saucerhead> ya wont hurt i guess. gonna go try.. thanks for the help guys appreciate it! good thing is b day is coming up and i was gonna go to this ultimate frisbee tourny for 200 bucks.. maybe i can get a new comp instead ha
#1640 [17:29] <aetherian> minecraft: supporting computer manufacturers and server hosting companies everywhere
#1641 [17:30] <saucerhead> how much would a comp cost to be able to run minecraft?
#1642 [17:30] <Mixxit> 200 bucks
#1643 [17:30] <aetherian> 200?
#1644 [17:30] <aetherian> that doesn't sound right...
#1645 [17:30] <xales> err, probably a bit more
#1646 [17:30] <Mixxit> yeah
#1647 [17:30] <saucerhead> from a store or like building it my self?
#1648 [17:30] <xales> $350 maybe
#1649 [17:30] <Mixxit> 200 is about right for a mobo cpu and memory bundle
#1650 [17:30] <xales> _bare_ minimum
#1651 [17:31] <aetherian> you can build an okay gaming wig at <500
#1652 [17:31] <aetherian> gaming rig, even
#1653 [17:31] <Mixxit> i want a gaming wig
#1654 [17:31] <Mixxit> like elton john
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#1656 [17:31] <Mixxit> for when i get my game on
#1657 [17:31] <saucerhead> LOL my moms going to elton john tonight!
#1658 [17:31] <Mixxit> i hope she has an invite
#1659 [17:31] <saucerhead> mom..
#1660 [17:32] <Mixxit> so wtf has changed to break minecraft on my pc?
#1661 [17:32] <Mixxit> other than me sleeping
#1662 [17:32] <aetherian> dank, these kyzokus are putting up quite the fight
#1663 [17:32] <mib_uwfe5u> If anyone here help me please say something. i need some help
#1664 [17:32] <xales> mib_uwfe5u: with?
#1665 [17:32] <xales> Mixxit: did you try restarting it?
#1666 [17:32] <Mixxit> yes i did that during the windows update
#1667 [17:33] <Mixxit> i tried looking for a log to figure out what was going on
#1668 [17:33] <mib_uwfe5u> I have a server i can connect to it and other people can connect to it. But my brother who is on the same network can't connect to it
#1669 [17:33] <Mixxit> any ideas where that might be
#1670 [17:33] <xales> mib_uwfe5u: what IP is he trying to connect to? what error does he get?
#1671 [17:33] <saucerhead> ok im getting of thanks for the information guys!
#1672 [17:33] <xales> Mixxit: try going to appdata, and renaming the .minecraft folder
#1673 [17:33] <mib_uwfe5u> He is trying to connect like all the other people but its not working
#1674 [17:33] <Mixxit> i deleted it completely mate
#1675 [17:34] <mib_uwfe5u> any suggestions
#1676 [17:34] <Mixxit> and downloaded a new installer
#1677 [17:34] <xales> Mixxit: it wasn't a "suggestion" it was a question
#1678 [17:34] <xales> err
#1679 [17:34] <xales> mib_uwfe5u:
#1680 [17:34] <xales> Mixxit: installer?
#1681 [17:34] <Mixxit> the exe from minecraft.net
#1682 [17:34] <mib_uwfe5u> ok "questions"?
#1683 [17:34] <xales> 17:32:44 <@xales> mib_uwfe5u: what IP is he trying to connect to? what error does he get?
#1684 [17:35] <xales> Mixxit: try making a new user account on your computer, see if it works there
#1685 [17:35] <Mixxit> ah, interesting!
#1686 [17:35] <Mixxit> its not doing it in single player
#1687 [17:35] <Mixxit> HMM
#1688 [17:36] <mib_uwfe5u> im trying to connect on his computer right now
#1689 [17:36] <mib_uwfe5u> its just staying at the connecting screen
#1690 [17:37] <mib_uwfe5u> ok the errors is operation timed ouyt
#1691 [17:37] <mib_uwfe5u> out*
#1692 [17:38] <mib_uwfe5u> xales you know how to fix it?
#1693 [17:38] <xales> what IP are you trying to connect to?
#1694 [17:38] <mib_uwfe5u> my external
#1695 [17:38] <mib_uwfe5u> ip*
#1696 [17:38] <mib_uwfe5u> i tryied it with the port at then end too
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#1702 [17:51] <SPaRT> does nobody want to fix a automated double door that's just broken?
#1703 [17:53] <SPaRT> :-/
#1704 [17:53] <oldtopmanserver> SPaRT: The second door must be flipped
#1705 [17:53] <TheNytangel> !server
#1706 [17:53] <SPaRT> ?
#1707 [17:54] <oldtopmanserver> TheNytangel: Is it that hard do go to the minecraft.net site?
#1708 [17:54] <SPaRT> it worked until my friend destroyed some of the redstone lines
#1709 [17:54] <TheNytangel> yes
#1710 [17:54] <SPaRT> but i have no clue how it works :-/
#1711 [17:54] <oldtopmanserver> SPaRT: Did you ban your friend?
#1712 [17:54] <SPaRT> he's the server admin ^^
#1713 [17:54] <oldtopmanserver> SPaRT: Did you find a better server?
#1714 [17:54] <SPaRT> nope :)
#1715 [17:55] <SPaRT> do you know how to use redstone?
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#1717 [17:55] <SPaRT> or better: do you want to repair it?
#1718 [17:55] <SPaRT> for you maybe it's 3 minutes
#1719 [17:56] <Fum> Hello, is there a way to turn off a nether portal? I tried flooding it, lighting it on fire again... I don't have a diamond pickaxe yet.
#1720 [17:56] <Ir0nman> how do i use modloader?
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#1722 [17:56] <SPaRT> i won't figure out even within 3 hours
#1723 [17:56] <oldtopmanserver> Yes, no
#1724 [17:56] <SPaRT> :(
#1725 [17:56] <SPaRT> bummer
#1726 [17:56] <xolotl> Fum: I'm not sure if you can, actually. If you're IN the Nether and it gets hit by a Ghast's fireball it'
#1727 [17:56] * oldtopmanserver is busy programming NaEvil
#1727 [17:56] <xolotl> Fum: I'm not sure if you can, actually. If you're IN the Nether and it gets hit by a Ghast's fireball it'll go out
#1728 [17:56] <xolotl> Fum: I'm not sure if you can replicate that behavior on your own though
#1729 [17:57] <Fum> xolotl, I came back, and want it to be closed because it creeps me out with the sound it makes :x
#1730 [17:57] <xales> try TNT maybe?
#1731 [17:57] <xales> I think I've accidentally put one out with that
#1732 [17:57] <Fum> Don't have any.
#1733 [17:58] <Fum> Wait. Can I just punch the obsidian until it disappears?
#1734 [17:58] <oldtopmanserver> Fum: You'll have to take one of the pieces out
#1735 [17:58] <xales> Fum: Yes, but it will take a huge amount of time
#1736 [17:58] <oldtopmanserver> Fum: It takes 50 sec to do it with anythng short of a dia axe
#1737 [17:59] <Mixxit> alright cool
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#1739 [17:59] <HK6> Can anybody please help me with server issues?
#1740 [17:59] <Fum> It's gone! Thank you guys :D
#1741 [18:00] <gPad2002> ??> HK6 ask
#1742 [18:00] <VoxelHead> HK6: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1743 [18:00] <VoxelHead> HK6: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1745 [18:00] <HK6> I have recently set up my own private server but I am having some problems with it. People can join my server fine through my external IP but once they connect they cannot see my character moving and cannot delete/build blocks. Eventually they are disconnected and an overflow error is given in the log. The weird thing is that I can see them moving fine and can see what they are holding
#1746 [18:00] <HK6> too. I have port forwarding set up and when my server is running the port is open. I also tried turning off the firewall on my router as well as adding an exception to windows firewall for the .exe. If anybody could help me out that would be much appreciated.
#1747 [18:00] <gPad2002> Copypasta?
#1748 [18:01] <HK6> Yep from the forum topic I made that has no responses.
#1749 [18:01] <HK6> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=268088
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#1751 [18:01] <gPad2002> Tried using the jar?
#1752 [18:01] <HK6> Yep.
#1753 [18:01] <Fum> HK6, server specs? Does it max out the CPU perhaps?
#1754 [18:01] <xales> HK6: What model of NIC do you have?
#1755 [18:01] <HK6> I am using the same computer as the server for playing but I will copy pasta the specs.
#1756 [18:01] <HK6> AMD 1090T Black Six-Core CPU, 8GB DDR3 RAM, and ATI Radeon HD 5800 series.
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#1758 [18:02] <gPad2002> HK6: Are you being DOS'd?
#1759 [18:02] <gPad2002> :P
#1760 [18:02] <HK6> Also, the client that connected gets an End of Stream error.
#1761 [18:02] <HK6> gPad2002: Not that I know of.
#1762 [18:02] <Fum> HK6, if you run the server only. Without playing the game. And someone connects. Does the problem still occur?
#1763 [18:03] <HK6> Fum: Yes.
#1764 [18:03] <Fum> Blame Java.
#1765 [18:03] <xales> HK6: What model of NIC? Also, are you using ZoneAlarm by any chance?
#1766 [18:03] <HK6> @xales: Not sure how to check NIC and no I am not.
#1767 [18:04] <xales> HK6: Do you know how to open device manager?
#1768 [18:04] <HK6> Yes.
#1769 [18:05] <xales> Look in there, under "network adapters" I believe
#1770 [18:05] <HK6> Alright.
#1771 [18:06] <HK6> Well it has my old router in there and "Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter".
#1772 [18:07] <HK6> Wait nevermind. *facepalm*
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#1774 [18:07] <HK6> I am using a D-Link DWA-130 Wireless N USB Adapter.
#1775 [18:08] <gPad2002> USB wifi
#1776 [18:09] <gPad2002> Not a good idea at the best of times
#1777 [18:09] <xales> Yeah...I think that might be the issue
#1778 [18:10] <HK6> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1244652287.png
#1779 [18:10] <HK6> Is that not good enough for a server?
#1780 [18:10] <gPad2002> Its irrelevant
#1781 [18:11] <gPad2002> That doesn't check the persistency of the connection
#1782 [18:11] <Fum> Do a pingtest.
#1783 [18:11] <HK6> Ok.
#1784 [18:12] <HK6> http://www.pingtest.net/result/38523448.png
#1785 [18:12] <gPad2002> Mm, not bad
#1786 [18:12] <gPad2002> I'm not sure really
#1787 [18:12] <gPad2002> The only thing that could cause the buffer to overflow is packet spam or bad hardwear
#1788 [18:13] <gPad2002> I would expect
#1789 [18:13] <gPad2002> Hardware*
#1790 [18:13] <xales> gPad2002: It's more likely that it can't keep up with the volume and quantity of packets
#1791 [18:13] <Fum> gPad2002, I get that as well when trying to hose a server and play on it.
#1792 [18:14] <gPad2002> Hmm
#1793 [18:14] <gPad2002> I've never seen that error before
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#1795 [18:14] <HK6_> Sorry about that. Changed one of the settings on the adapter.
#1796 [18:14] <gPad2002> :P
#1797 [18:14] <Fum> :)
#1798 [18:15] <HK6_> Failed to realize that changing settings makes it shut down for a second.
#1799 [18:15] <Fum> host* not hose XD
#1800 [18:15] <gPad2002> Lol
#1801 [18:15] <Ir0nman> How do I enable color chat in my server?
#1802 [18:16] <HK6_> I just enabled the "Multimedia/Gaming Environment" advanced setting on my adapter to be enabled. Going to try that.
#1803 [18:16] <gPad2002> #bukkit
#1804 [18:16] <gPad2002> Ir0nman: ^
#1805 [18:17] <gPad2002> Brb all
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#1807 [18:18] <HK6> Do I need to enable the "Adhoc support 802.11n" setting?
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#1809 [18:19] <Salty> Is anyone comfortable using MineOS? I can't figure the FTP function out.
#1810 [18:20] <gPad2002> Salty: There's a fix for that
#1811 [18:20] <gPad2002> Use a proper OS
#1812 [18:20] <gPad2002> :P
#1813 [18:20] <Salty> :(
#1814 [18:20] <gPad2002> I don't think anyone here uses it
#1815 [18:20] <gPad2002> At least, its got bad media attention here :P
#1816 [18:21] <Salty> i think it would work better for me if I was a linux guru
#1817 [18:21] <gPad2002> FTP function would need an FTP client
#1818 [18:21] <gPad2002> Like filezilla
#1819 [18:27] <HK6> So I take it my network problems are un-fixable?
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#1822 [18:29] <Stenlay> Hey guys, my friend is having a problem, sometime the water in minecraft turns Purple
#1823 [18:29] <gPad2002> HK6: A
#1824 [18:29] <gPad2002> All I can suggest
#1825 [18:29] <SlashLife> He should stop bleeding then. x)
#1826 [18:29] <gPad2002> Is getting a wireless card put into your machine
#1827 [18:30] <Stenlay> no one know the problem?
#1828 [18:30] <HK6> gPad2002: Damn.
#1829 [18:32] <oldtopman> Stenlay: He on any mods?
#1830 [18:33] <Stenlay> no, it's with and without mods :S
#1831 [18:33] <gPad2002> Stenlay: Has he had magnets near his screen?
#1832 [18:33] <Stenlay> no :S
#1833 [18:33] <oldtopman> What kind of screen is it?
#1834 [18:33] <oldtopman> Is he on LSD?
#1835 [18:33] <Stenlay> i could send a picture how it looks like
#1836 [18:34] <oldtopman> Sure
#1837 [18:34] <Stenlay> just a minute
#1838 [18:35] <Stenlay> http://i55.tinypic.com/bey6wn.png
#1839 [18:35] <Stenlay> there you go
#1840 [18:36] <HK6> That looks blue?
#1841 [18:36] <gPad2002> Grid
#1842 [18:36] <gPad2002> What's that grid about
#1843 [18:36] <Stenlay> it is kinda purple something
#1844 [18:37] <Stenlay> it's all over the water,he ddin't bother before, but now he is recording and it's very annoying for him
#1845 [18:37] <gPad2002> What's with the grid?
#1846 [18:37] <Stenlay> grid?
#1847 [18:37] <gPad2002> The grid seems to be causing it
#1848 [18:37] <gPad2002> Yes..
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#1850 [18:38] <Stenlay> pardon, i don't udnerstand that
#1851 [18:38] <gPad2002> Over the sand and water
#1852 [18:39] <Stenlay> he is currently running a texture pack on that picture, but it is like that without texturepack too
#1853 [18:39] <SlashLife> Stenlay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern
#1854 [18:39] <gPad2002> The texture pack obviously sucks :P
#1855 [18:40] <Stenlay> it is purple when he is not using the texture pack
#1856 [18:41] <gPad2002> Let's see it without then
#1857 [18:42] <HK6> So any other suggestions besides buying a built-in wifi card?
#1858 [18:42] <Stenlay> i will upload it soon gpad2002
#1859 [18:42] <gPad2002> Stenlay: Alright
#1860 [18:44] <Stenlay> he can see a kinda grid on the blocks
#1861 [18:45] <Stenlay> which is either white or black
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#1863 [18:47] <gPad2002> It shouldn't be there
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#1865 [18:47] <Stenlay> http://i56.tinypic.com/2cgy7ax.png
#1866 [18:47] <Stenlay> there is without
#1867 [18:48] <TheHuntedPie> whats new ppl?
#1868 [18:48] <gPad2002> The grid needs o go
#1869 [18:48] <gPad2002> To go*
#1870 [18:48] <Salty> figured it out
#1871 [18:48] <gPad2002> His textures are messed up
#1872 [18:48] <SlashLife> Stenlay: Someone just posted that on #minecraft: http://screensnapr.com/e/98tBMX.png
#1873 [18:48] <SlashLife> With that texture pack it's not as clearly visible, but there's Moire as well.
#1874 [18:49] <Stenlay> i see, is there anything to do to make it disappear?
#1875 [18:50] <SlashLife> I think the only thing you could try would be to use a very very plain texture pack that doesn't have a lot of contrast on the tiles.
#1876 [18:50] <Stenlay> any suggestion?
#1877 [18:50] <SlashLife> Other than that, it would be up to the renderer to do anti aliasing on the textures.
#1878 [18:50] <SlashLife> Err ...
#1879 [18:50] <SlashLife> interpolating.
#1880 [18:51] <SlashLife> (How could I mix up THOSE two?)
#1881 [18:51] <SlashLife> Mhh ...
#1882 [18:51] <SlashLife> Are you on fancy or on fast graphics?
#1883 [18:51] <Stenlay> Fance
#1884 [18:51] <Stenlay> fancy*
#1885 [18:51] <aetherian> heh
#1886 [18:51] <Stenlay> and it is my friend
#1887 [18:51] <Mixxit> hush with your 'mix'!
#1888 [18:52] <aetherian> mix it up?
#1889 [18:52] <Mixxit> argghhh
#1890 [18:52] <Mixxit> flashy flashy
#1891 [18:52] <aetherian> does mix... ah...
#1892 [18:52] <aetherian> does mix highlight you?
#1893 [18:52] <aetherian> you can turn that off.
#1894 [18:52] * Mixxit is blinded by the orange
#1894 [18:55] <aetherian> ...orange?
#1895 [18:56] <Mixxit> my highlight colour :)
#1896 [18:58] <oldtopman> How do I add words to my highlight list...
#1897 [18:58] <Mixxit> its moved since the old mirc
#1898 [18:58] <Mixxit> its in 'notify' in your address book
#1899 [18:58] <Mixxit> press alt b then goto highlight tab
#1900 [19:00] <oldtopman> I use xchat :P
#1901 [19:02] <HK6> Mixxit: That is why it is best to keep commonly used words off your highlight list. :P
#1902 [19:09] <Mixxit> that line didnt highlight :P
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#1904 [19:11] <HK6> Well I guess aside from buying a server computer I won't be running an SMP server any time soon.
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#1909 [19:25] <aetherian> cupcakes!
#1910 [19:25] <flib> =3
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#1912 [19:30] <Mazel> Hello. anyone here answer a license question?
#1913 [19:31] <xales> Go ahead and ask
#1914 [19:31] <xales> if we can't answer, we'll tell you where someone can
#1915 [19:31] <Mazel> When I buy Minecraft, setup my own server, can my wife play concurrently with me? Or does she need her own copy?
#1916 [19:31] <HK6> Unless you are me. :P
#1917 [19:32] <xales> Mazel: It's (somewhat) possible to play together without having two copies, but that may change soon
#1918 [19:33] <Mazel> somewhat means it is hard or not full featured?
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#1920 [19:34] <xales> Both
#1921 [19:35] <Slez> I could really use some help with this, i'm borderline burning my irl house down in rage. I'm trying to create an underground river, but the second my boat even knicks a wall, it breaks. is there any trick to going through tunnels with a boat?
#1922 [19:35] <Mazel> ok thank you for your response
#1923 [19:37] <HK6> Slez: Can't you get that soul something from the Nether?
#1924 [19:37] <xales> Slez: Widen the tunnel, or line it with soul sand (from the nether)
#1925 [19:38] <flib> Can I get help with that here?: my Minecraft crashes while starting with the new launcher if I have a 256px skin installed, but not with the the older .jar of the new launcher
#1926 [19:38] <flib> this*
#1927 [19:39] <xales> flib: does it crash without the 256 installed?
#1928 [19:39] <flib> no
#1929 [19:39] <xales> then it's a problem with that
#1930 [19:39] <xales> it's not up to date or it's installed incorretly
#1931 [19:39] <flib> clearly, but like I said, it doesn't crash if I use the earlier version of the launcher
#1932 [19:40] <flib> or if I use the patcher to run it
#1933 [19:40] <xales> well, in any event, it's not something we can help with
#1934 [19:40] <xales> (we only provide support for the unmodified game, if it doesn't work because of a mod, we can't help)
#1935 [19:40] <flib> alright then, thank you!
#1936 [19:41] <HK6> @xales: Any advice for me besides new network connector?
#1937 [19:42] <xales> Not really, unfortunately
#1938 [19:42] <Slez> sorry was alt tabbed, so im guessing boats can ram soulsand without problem?
#1939 [19:43] <xales> correct
#1940 [19:44] <Slez> awesome, thanks.
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#1943 [19:57] <lemon-rev> has anyone had a slight bug, where you uncover a mine, put down torchers save, sleep (realtime) come back load up map, and its gone dark again ?
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#1945 [20:04] <HK6> Well if anything comes up for my problems please let me know in my topic.
#1946 [20:11] <lemon-rev> whats up hk6
#1947 [20:12] <HK6> lemon-rev: Server issues.
#1948 [20:12] <HK6> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=268088
#1949 [20:12] <lemon-rev> like what not staying on ?
#1950 [20:12] <lemon-rev> oh
#1951 [20:12] <HK6> Yeah all the info I have is in that topic.
#1952 [20:12] <lemon-rev> looking
#1953 [20:12] <lemon-rev> what os
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#1955 [20:13] <HK6> Windows 7 64-bit
#1956 [20:13] <lemon-rev> ok how much ram / bandwith you got ?
#1957 [20:14] <HK6> 8GB DDR3 RAM and 1mb/s upload 20mb/s download.
#1958 [20:14] <lemon-rev> ok
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#1960 [20:15] <lemon-rev> so your computer is set with bandwith, how far away are your friends, and it could be the server file or exe is currupt somehow
#1961 [20:15] <xales> lemon-rev: the issue is most likely with his USB wifi adapter
#1962 [20:15] <lemon-rev> oh
#1963 [20:15] <HK6> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1244652287.png
#1964 [20:15] <xales> (from what we've found)
#1965 [20:15] <HK6> http://www.pingtest.net/result/38523448.png
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#1967 [20:15] <xales> also...1mbps is not really enough to run a server
#1968 [20:15] <HK6> Those are the 2 tests I ran.
#1969 [20:16] <NullEntity> Is there some form of rcon/remote admin for mc?
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#1971 [20:16] <HK6> @xales: That is sadly the second best upload I can get from my ISP...
#1972 [20:16] <xales> NullEntity: Some server wrappers support that, but not on vanilla
#1973 [20:16] <xales> HK6: Which is also why servers aren't really meant to be run on home connections
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#1975 [20:17] <HK6> Yeah I just wanted this for me and like 2 or 3 friends so I figured my connection could handle it.
#1976 [20:17] <lemon-rev> nk6 how many others are trying to join your server
#1977 [20:17] <HK6> lemon-rev: Most at one time I have tried so far is 1.
#1978 [20:17] <lemon-rev> it should beable to handle at least another person and possible 3 but yea strange
#1979 [20:18] <HK6> Mhm on the client side for whoever is connecting external it loads a bit of the world then just stops.
#1980 [20:18] <HK6> They can talk in the chat and it pops up in the server log and window.
#1981 [20:18] <xales> Yeah..that does sound like the adapter then
#1982 [20:18] <HK6> But they do not see it in their game.
#1983 [20:18] <HK6> They also do not see anything said from the console.
#1984 [20:19] <xales> Yeah, again, that all points to the adapter
#1985 [20:19] <lemon-rev> either adaper like you say xales or, server exe the prog to run the server its comming down to , cause it seems everything else sounds like its working
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#1988 [20:23] <HK6> Yeah I might try getting wired up and see if that fixes it.
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#1999 [20:35] <boaz> Anybody in this room? I've got a problem with pay version of game.
#2000 [20:36] <boaz> Originally bought 3 or 4 months ago and game worked great. Been busy in RL and just got back to playing again. Downloaded the .exe and it won't launch, downloaded the alt .exe and it won't work, tried online play and had to update java but after update i get a blank page with no game. Running Vista64 and using latest Chrome if that matters.
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#2003 [20:38] <lemon-rev> ok boaz
#2004 [20:38] <lemon-rev> redownload java again from java.com
#2005 [20:38] <lemon-rev> reinstall :P
#2006 [20:38] <boaz> Just did about 5 min ago
#2007 [20:38] <lemon-rev> then, see if web version plays and see whats going on
#2008 [20:38] <lemon-rev> ok, try the web page again then
#2009 [20:39] <lemon-rev> like play though minecraft.net < log in and see if you can play there
#2010 [20:39] <boaz> well before the reinstall it told me i needed to upgrade java, since reinstall now it just shows teh blank page
#2011 [20:39] <boaz> thats what i tried when it gave me blank screen
#2012 [20:39] <boaz> well not blank screen, a blank web page
#2013 [20:39] <lemon-rev> ok have you done a reboot ?
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#2016 [20:41] <Coolkyledude2> Hi guise!
#2017 [20:41] <lemon-rev> hi
#2018 [20:41] <FlameTai1> Need a question resolved guyz lol, anyway to make minecraft use one folder for all the files? And have it be a modified path? And make it so I can access it on either my Linux or Windows comp?
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#2020 [20:41] <Slez> Nether portals dont work in multiplayer?
#2021 [20:42] <FlameTai1> I found this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/fdeg9/need_help_making_minecraft_portable_between/ but don't know what to do?
#2022 [20:42] <FlameTai1> It also describes what I want to do very well.
#2023 [20:42] <lemon-rev> flametail1 i dont belive you can run mc in another directory other from where it installs it self maybe in a later version but atm no
#2024 [20:43] <FlameTai1> Shoot
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#2027 [20:43] <ryth> hi
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#2029 [20:43] <Ckm2> howdy
#2030 [20:43] <FlameTai1> Cause I know "Minecraft Portable" for Windows works amazingly like that
#2031 [20:43] <lemon-rev> slez portals i think onyl work like beds in muliplayer you have to have everyone on that server in that one place to make it work
#2032 [20:43] <ryth> anyone know a good server to join?
#2033 [20:43] <FlameTai1> But it's not compatible with Linux =[
#2034 [20:43] <Slez> Only one connected atm, doesnt port me anywhere :/
#2035 [20:43] <lemon-rev> ?? ryth server
#2036 [20:43] <lemon-rev> ?? help
#2037 [20:44] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#2038 [20:44] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#2039 [20:44] <lemon-rev> ?? server help
#2040 [20:44] <lemon-rev> ?? server
#2041 [20:45] <lemon-rev> ?? index
#2042 [20:46] <Coolkyledude2> ??< index
#2043 [20:46] <lemon-rev> ?? smp/servers
#2044 [20:47] <ryth> ??> smp
#2045 [20:47] <lemon-rev> bah,
#2046 [20:47] <Coolkyledude2> ?? virus
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#2048 [20:47] <ryth> eventually we'll find the secret code :)
#2049 [20:47] <lemon-rev> smp < single muit player
#2050 [20:48] <lemon-rev> something like that
#2051 [20:48] <oldtopman> ??>> oldtopman index
#2052 [20:48] <ryth> ??>> ryth index
#2053 [20:49] <ryth> ??> ryth smp/servers
#2054 [20:49] <VoxelHead> ryth: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2055 [20:49] <VoxelHead> ryth: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2056 [20:50] <oldtopman> ryth: WHat are you looking for?
#2057 [20:50] <oldtopman> What*
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#2059 [20:54] <saucerhead> hey guys im back!
#2060 [20:54] <saucerhead> i got it wowrking haha
#2061 [20:54] <saucerhead> but how do i get to be able to paly online with my friend?
#2062 [20:55] <saucerhead> ne one?
#2063 [20:55] <lemon-rev> hm
#2064 [20:55] <lemon-rev> why dont you try setting up a server
#2065 [20:56] <saucerhead> how do i create a server for me and my budyd?
#2066 [20:56] <saucerhead> ya how do i do that?
#2067 [20:56] <lemon-rev> ?? saucerhead smp/servers
#2068 [20:56] <lemon-rev> ??> saucerhead smp/servers
#2069 [20:56] <VoxelHead> saucerhead: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2070 [20:56] <VoxelHead> saucerhead: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2071 [20:57] <saucerhead> can i make my own so its just him and me? were new so i dont want to get robbed and stuff lol
#2072 [20:58] <lemon-rev> lol
#2073 [20:58] <lemon-rev> i see
#2074 [20:58] <lemon-rev> well yes you can make a server and keep your ip's to your selfs :) no one will join then :P but make sure you have more bandwith and plenty of ram
#2075 [20:58] <saucerhead> want to get the hang of it before we start playing with the big boys lol
#2076 [20:59] <saucerhead> ok but how do i create a server lol
#2077 [20:59] <NullEntity> How can I give myself an unlimited stack? Like before how I could do /give name 1 -1
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#2079 [20:59] <Kinski> hi there
#2080 [20:59] <Kinski> still someone awake :D ?
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#2082 [21:01] <NullEntity> Nope
#2083 [21:01] <aetherian> we all just went to bed
#2084 [21:01] <Kinski> cant be true when theres some minecraft going on :P
#2085 [21:02] <NullEntity> Is there a Bukkit plugin for a bottomless stack?
#2086 [21:02] <Kinski> i got an client side socket error, on 2 clients which were not on the same network. now i cant connect to any server
#2087 [21:03] <xales> Kinski: what is the error?
#2088 [21:03] <Kinski> but the world is ok itself, runs perfectly on singleplayer
#2089 [21:03] <oldtopman> NullEntity: Try #bukkit
#2090 [21:03] <Kinski> cant remember x_x
#2091 [21:03] <Kinski> socket error: something
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#2093 [21:04] <codyholla120> HEY
#2094 [21:04] <codyholla120> SKINEdIT HLP
#2095 [21:05] * xales kicked codyholla120 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Read the topic, don't allcaps)
#2096 [21:05] <Kinski> what do u need ?
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#2098 [21:05] <codyholla120> ohhh srry
#2099 [21:05] <codyholla120> could i have help though>
#2100 [21:05] <xales> Read the topic
#2101 [21:05] <Kinski> Connection timed out: connect is my error now when i try to connect, but its NOT port forwarding
#2102 [21:05] <xales> We don't provide support for third party software
#2103 [21:05] <codyholla120> i just did
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#2105 [21:06] <codyholla120> where do i get help for it then?
#2106 [21:06] <xales> Kinski: What IP are you trying to connect to?
#2107 [21:06] <xales> codyholla120: I don't know
#2108 [21:06] <codyholla120> ohhh kk
#2109 [21:06] <Kinski> whisper me, im to dumb for mibbit :D
#2110 [21:07] <xales> Kinski: How do you know port forwarding isn't the issue?
#2111 [21:07] <Kinski> cause we played for like a month and everythin was perfectly fine. we host on 3 different machines via dropbox
#2112 [21:08] <xales> The local or external IP could have changed
#2113 [21:08] <Kinski> 2 machines wont work, the third wasnt online this evening
#2114 [21:08] <xales> re-do the port forwarding, see if it works
#2115 [21:08] <Kinski> i use dyndns
#2116 [21:08] <Kinski> aw ok
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#2119 [21:10] <MINECRAFTMASTR> het how do i talk in single player
#2120 [21:10] <xales> you don't
#2121 [21:10] <MINECRAFTMASTR> how do i enter commands then?
#2122 [21:10] <xales> there are none
#2123 [21:10] <MINECRAFTMASTR> what abou /spawn mobs
#2124 [21:10] <Kinski> well nothing changed
#2125 [21:10] <xales> there are no commands in single player
#2126 [21:10] <MINECRAFTMASTR> fine fine
#2127 [21:11] <MINECRAFTMASTR> uhhh
#2128 [21:11] <MINECRAFTMASTR> i cant get help from any server with this problem i have
#2129 [21:11] <MINECRAFTMASTR> not the commands
#2130 [21:11] <oldtopman> What problem?
#2131 [21:11] <oldtopman> And are you using mods?
#2132 [21:12] <xales> So? If there isn't an IRC channel that provides help for skinedit, what do you want me to do about it?
#2133 [21:12] <MINECRAFTMASTR> i cant figure out how to open skinedit cuz it says theres an error
#2134 [21:12] <MINECRAFTMASTR> and xales if you want to help ppl then be nicer
#2135 [21:12] <MINECRAFTMASTR> oldtophat dood im am not
#2136 [21:12] <xales> Once again, this is #minecrafthelp not #skinedithelp
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#2138 [21:13] <Kinski> i rechecked everything, even checked the internal ip, but everything is plain normal
#2139 [21:14] <xales> Kinski: Firewall?
#2140 [21:14] <luckz> !paid Raptor
#2141 [21:14] <oldtopman> Whom is this Raptor you speak of?
#2142 [21:14] <Kinski> i dont think so, cause the error happened in just one moment, but ill check anyway
#2143 [21:14] <LG_Legacy> !paid raptor
#2144 [21:15] <luckz> some serbian guy on my server, he speaks.. serbian.
#2145 [21:16] <oldtopman> luckz: did you disable online mode?
#2146 [21:16] <NullEntity> !paid Agent766
#2147 [21:16] <NullEntity> yay
#2148 [21:16] <LG_Legacy> !paid LG_Lagacy
#2149 [21:17] <luckz> oldtopman: your highlight crashed my irc client, nice
#2150 [21:17] <NullEntity> Minecraft crashing a lot for anyone else?
#2151 [21:17] <LG_Legacy> luckz
#2152 [21:17] <aetherian> fail
#2153 [21:17] <oldtopman> lucks: Too bad. Get a better client IMO
#2154 [21:18] <AkiTensai> Not as much as Fallout New Vegas
#2155 [21:18] <luckz> I wondered for a moment if LG_Legacy actually wanted something, but no, it just was to see if it'd crash again, ok :P
#2156 [21:18] <aetherian> what client?
#2157 [21:18] <luckz> AkiTensai: NV is still a billion times more fixed up than FO3
#2158 [21:18] <LG_Legacy> Fuck he's still here
#2159 [21:18] <aetherian> be nice
#2160 [21:19] <LG_Legacy> no:<
#2161 [21:19] <aetherian> T_T
#2162 [21:19] <LG_Legacy> Quassel IRC?
#2163 [21:19] <LG_Legacy> Never heard of it
#2164 [21:19] <xales> LG_Legacy: A (bad) Mac client
#2165 [21:19] <xales> :|
#2166 [21:19] <luckz> not my fault you're clueless re IRC clients!
#2167 [21:19] <Kinski> even when i turn off the win firewall it doesnt connect anymore =(
#2168 [21:19] <luckz> xales: mac?!
#2169 [21:19] <xales> Kinski: Are you able to connect using '127.0.0.1'?
#2170 [21:19] <xales> I think
#2171 [21:19] <xales> no, wait
#2172 [21:19] <xales> that's Colloquy
#2173 [21:19] <xales> derp
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#2175 [21:20] <Kinski> DERP
#2176 [21:20] <Kinski> yeah that works
#2177 [21:20] <luckz> yeah the names are so similar ^_^
#2178 [21:20] <Kinski> but online IP wont work =(
#2179 [21:20] <Kinski> nice pal
#2180 [21:20] <luckz> Kinski: you mean connecting to yourself via your online IP or other people connecting?
#2181 [21:20] <Kinski> i should have come on that myself
#2182 [21:20] <Kinski> both
#2183 [21:20] <Kinski> try my ip
#2184 [21:21] <Kinski> well try the dyndns
#2185 [21:21] <xales> Kinski: Are you sure the IP on dyndns is correct (you are running the updater, yes?)
#2186 [21:21] <luckz> I don't know your IP :P
#2187 [21:21] <luckz> my dyndns fucks up a lot lately
#2188 [21:21] <luckz> I have to manually set my IP at least once a week (with a new IP every 24 hours)
#2189 [21:21] <Kinski> well it gets updated automaticly
#2190 [21:21] <Kinski> via the router
#2191 [21:21] <luckz> yeah my router fails at updating for some reason
#2192 [21:21] <luckz> and I blame dyndns personally
#2193 [21:22] <Kinski> ok, never mentioned any errors before
#2194 [21:22] <luckz> all my routers managed it just fine for years, and this one also did for the last half year, until recently. well go to the dyndns website and check :P
#2195 [21:22] <xales> Kinski: double check it?
#2196 [21:22] <Kinski> but connecting via IP wont work as well so i didnt thought that might be a problem
#2197 [21:22] <Kinski> yeah i do now !
#2198 [21:22] <xales> Kinski: go to http://whatismyip.org/ and try using that
#2199 [21:22] <luckz> IMO you are 79.239.76.57
#2200 [21:22] <Kinski> i did that :)
#2201 [21:23] <luckz> I can log in
#2202 [21:23] <xales> !check 79.239.76.57
#2203 [21:23] <luckz> to your server
#2204 [21:23] <xales> Kinski: The IP 79.239.76.57 works
#2205 [21:23] <Kinski> and i displayed it via browser aaand via ipconfig
#2206 [21:23] <luckz> Kinski: ^
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#2208 [21:23] <Kinski> O,o
#2209 [21:23] <luckz> I AM ON YOUR SERVER.
#2210 [21:23] <luckz> DEAL WITH IT.
#2211 [21:23] <Kinski> I SAW IT
#2212 [21:23] <Kinski> strange
#2213 [21:24] <luckz> I don't understand it but it looks pretty nice.
#2214 [21:24] <luckz> what is strange?
#2215 [21:24] <Kinski> u should see the pig KZ
#2216 [21:24] <luckz> you can't connect to yourself using your own external IP (with a lot of routers/network setups)
#2217 [21:24] <Kinski> :>
#2218 [21:24] <Kinski> i did connect
#2219 [21:24] <Kinski> now
#2220 [21:25] <luckz> I WAS TELEPROTTED
#2221 [21:25] <luckz> ...what
#2222 [21:25] <Kinski> :D
#2223 [21:25] <Kinski> my schnitzel fabrik
#2224 [21:25] <luckz> does it actually output anything
#2225 [21:25] <Kinski> it makes alotta schnitzel
#2226 [21:26] <Kinski> yeah it does, i correct something to pull every 4 lines together
#2227 [21:26] <Kinski> to 1 master pipeline of meat
#2228 [21:26] <Kinski> u should see the train station
#2229 [21:30] <luckz> so how come you could play with your friends earlier today, did they visit you or what?
#2230 [21:30] <luckz> or was your dyndns working then?
#2231 [21:30] <Kinski> noo i said i worked fine
#2232 [21:30] <Kinski> for months
#2233 [21:30] <luckz> ah
#2234 [21:31] <Kinski> it was right after a socket error
#2235 [21:31] <luckz> if you've been using it for *months*, why aren't you using the obvious server mod stuff?
#2236 [21:33] <Kinski> a month and a half
#2237 [21:34] <Kinski> or so
#2238 [21:35] <luckz> can't claim that any of my own stuff had complicated redstone / minecart stuff like that
#2239 [21:35] <Kinski> well :D
#2240 [21:35] <Kinski> we like to play that game :D
#2241 [21:36] <Kinski> cmon lets try the pigs
#2242 [21:36] <Kinski> xD
#2243 [21:36] <Kinski> i love slaughtering pigs .
#2244 [21:36] <Kinski> D
#2245 [21:36] <AkiTensai> luckz: Then your having better luck then I am. Even after companions, I'm running out of hands to count the crashes.
#2246 [21:36] <luckz> it already took me forever to make a track along the major sightseeing highlights of one world, http://luckz.de:8124/
#2247 [21:37] <luckz> AkiTensai: ?
#2248 [21:37] <AkiTensai> luckz: FO3 crashed on me once in 40+ hours. NV crashes once per 5 hours of play.
#2249 [21:38] <luckz> AkiTensai: Oblivion and FO3 taught me to quicksave every few seconds
#2250 [21:38] <luckz> and I could not continue my FO3 game halfway through the last DLC because all my savegames crash on load
#2251 [21:38] <AkiTensai> ^.^ ftw
#2252 [21:38] <Kinski> i will take a look
#2253 [21:39] <luckz> so pig spawners just pump out pigs once some grass is near?
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#2256 [21:40] <mr_fribble> Hello?
#2257 [21:40] <luckz> helo
#2258 [21:40] <mr_fribble> Can you help?
#2259 [21:40] <Kinski> well that happens :D
#2260 [21:41] <mr_fribble> Right now I can load Mindcraft, but when I join my friend is when it messes up.
#2261 [21:41] <Floris> Messes up how?
#2262 [21:41] <Floris> Freezes? graphics wonky? pigs flying?
#2263 [21:42] <mr_fribble> It is almost like an extreme lag, where they see me but I can't see them, and vice verse.
#2264 [21:42] <Floris> The minecraft server runnning on a home computer, on some dsl connection, or on a vps/dedicated server somehwere?
#2265 [21:42] <mr_fribble> Dsl.
#2266 [21:42] <Floris> Then perhaps it Is extreme lag.
#2267 [21:42] <Kinski> u cant get out of there i think
#2268 [21:42] <Ckm2> howdy
#2269 [21:42] <mr_fribble> What should I do?
#2270 [21:42] <keypunch> I've googled, and can't find an answer. I have hosted a SMP server on linux on this machine, and it WORKS great. Installed windows 7 and can only connect via localhost. Port is forwarded, server screen does show logged in, and if I'm logged in on local I can see a friend appear in game. But he never loads. any ideas?
#2271 [21:43] <Ckm2> is there a bug on the sandstone block, it makes no sound weh n you pick yup the brick
#2272 [21:43] <keypunch> Oh, and the error is Connection Lost with Internal Exception
#2273 [21:43] <luckz> keypunch: using any mods or something?
#2274 [21:43] <Floris> update your hosts file to set a fake domain to the 192.168.* ip, and point it to the domain ?
#2275 [21:43] <keypunch> luckz: yes, but also does the same thing with vanilla
#2276 [21:44] <mr_fribble> WHat should I do Floris?
#2277 [21:44] <luckz> keypunch: how are you starting the server on windows?
#2278 [21:45] <mr_fribble> No help?
#2279 [21:45] <mr_fribble> Ok, I guess I'm screwed then...
#2280 [21:45] <keypunch> java.exe -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar nogui (or minecraft_server.jar for vanilla) Have also tried the Server.Exe with gui
#2281 [21:46] <Kinski> so ure german luckz :P ?
#2282 [21:46] <mr_fribble> HELLO???
#2283 [21:47] <mr_fribble> Can anybody HELP ME????
#2284 [21:47] <lemon-rev> fribble whats up
#2285 [21:47] <luckz> mr_fribble: did you try both being on some third party server? do either of you have extremely slow connections?
#2286 [21:47] <luckz> Kinski: probably!
#2287 [21:47] <lemon-rev> fribble do not fret when your here ,
#2288 [21:47] <keypunch> luckz: in server window I also get extra info, timeoutexception details in SocketInputstream
#2289 [21:48] <Kinski> luckz, is that a map from Minetographer
#2290 [21:49] <luckz> Kinski: that is a live map of the server, watch me walk around on it
#2291 [21:49] <mr_fribble> Well, my friend is able to connect to him just fine.
#2292 [21:50] <luckz> Kinski: made via dynmap
#2293 [21:50] <Kinski> lol nice !!!
#2294 [21:50] <luckz> now it's more like "watch me minecart"
#2295 [21:51] <Kinski> i imagined thats why u move that quick
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#2297 [21:51] <Kinski> i think most boosters arent fast enough, i wish there would be a possibility
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#2299 [21:52] <Kinski> cause we have builded such gigantic roads
#2300 [21:52] <luckz> I can set it slower if that helps with the map ;P
#2301 [21:52] <Kinski> where u drive like, 4 -5 minutes straight in one direction
#2302 [21:53] <Kinski> the problem was on dyndns, i think my browser showed me the wrong IP earlier as well.
#2303 [21:53] <luckz> I don't use boosters, it's just 100% speed all the time
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#2305 [21:54] <Kinski> how
#2306 [21:54] <Kinski> cart with engine ?
#2307 [21:54] <luckz> server mod stuff
#2308 [21:54] <Kinski> lame :P
#2309 [21:55] <Kinski> well we didnt get deep to mods that time.
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#2311 [21:59] <luckz> !paid muskratmistake
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#2313 [21:59] <Kinski> im so happy that its working now :)
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#2315 [22:03] <Kinski> is there some mod u really think is unverzichtbar :D ?
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#2317 [22:08] <Kinski> luckz ?
#2318 [22:09] <luckz> I don't know what you need at all :P
#2319 [22:10] <Kinski> well i hear bukkit a lot, which your dynmap thing seems to be part of, but i also heard they stopped developing
#2320 [22:11] <Kinski> so i checked McMyAdmin or however its called
#2321 [22:11] <luckz> stopped developing?
#2322 [22:11] <luckz> you'd only need weird admin things if you really run a lot of servers, I don't use that at all
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#2324 [22:12] <aetherian> why oh why can't people be content with vanilla
#2325 [22:12] <Kinski> well i just look for automated saves
#2326 [22:12] <luckz> aetherian: once you pop the fun don't stop
#2327 [22:12] * aetherian loves vanilla
#2327 [22:12] <Kinski> but i saw some mods, like a grappling hook, which seem to make sense
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#2329 [22:12] <Kinski> i was talking about that :D
#2330 [22:13] <aetherian> I...
#2331 [22:13] <aetherian> grappling hook is one of the worst (OP) mods out there
#2332 [22:13] <Kinski> i dont know i dont use mods so far, but that made sense to me ^^
#2333 [22:13] <CyclopsCaveman> so, whats the mod help channel?
#2334 [22:14] <aetherian> #risucraft? I mean, what do you exactly need help with.
#2335 [22:14] <aetherian> building mods?
#2336 [22:14] <CyclopsCaveman> just some troubleshooting
#2337 [22:14] <CyclopsCaveman> i guess i shoulda been more specific :p
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#2339 [22:16] <Kave> I keep getting a java.net.SocketException: Connection reset.I can't seem to find any info on how to fix this. I can't play multiplayer or single player. Both of them crash my computer
#2340 [22:17] <Kinski> mods installed :P ?
#2341 [22:17] <Kave> nope vanilla
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#2343 [22:18] <luckz> never seen any grappling hook :P
#2344 [22:18] <luckz> Kave: were you ever able to play?
#2345 [22:18] <Kave> yes, up until today
#2346 [22:18] <Kinski> looked totally shitty.
#2347 [22:18] <luckz> LG_Legacy: any way to see if somebody's account is written in lowercase or capitalised?
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#2349 [22:22] <Kave> So do you know what may be wrong?
#2350 [22:22] <Kinski> did u change anything ?
#2351 [22:22] <Kinski> like windows updates or something like that ?
#2352 [22:23] <Kinski> i mean im a noob anyway ... but maybe i got some ideas :P
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#2355 [22:23] <Kave> i havent seen any updates.I removed the minecraft folder and had it all redownload though
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#2357 [22:24] <Kinski> and u deleted the .minecraft file
#2358 [22:24] <Kave> folder yes, that was after it broke
#2359 [22:25] <Kave> before i changed nothing
#2360 [22:25] <Kinski> folder, true
#2361 [22:25] <Kinski> do u use dyndns ?
#2362 [22:25] <Kave> the server does yes
#2363 [22:25] <Kave> others can join the server
#2364 [22:26] <Kinski> maybe one of those unexplainable bugs i read so many times of but never got one :> i was only to dumb to notive my dndns didnt got updated earlier
#2365 [22:27] <Kinski> sry i cant help u at all ^^ =(
#2366 [22:27] <Kave> ok, anyone else have suggestions?
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#2377 [22:55] <Daggaroth> hey guys... im trying to setup a small private server for me and my friend and someone in the main channel told me to go open the server.properties file and edit it but im not sure where it is saved on my computer.. any suggestions where to look?
#2378 [22:56] <xales> It's in the directory that you run the server from
#2379 [22:57] <Slakker> Question... If I were to lay train rail down on a very steep and TALL mountain (100+ blocks?) and at the bottom make the rail like a ramp.. then if I rode the minecart to the bottom, then would I fly through the air once the cart left the rail?
#2380 [22:57] <Daggaroth> ah ha! thank you xales
#2381 [22:57] <xales> Slakker: No
#2382 [22:57] <Slakker> damn
#2383 [22:57] <Slakker> why not?
#2384 [22:57] <Slakker> wht would happen?
#2385 [22:58] <xales> The Minecart would fall to the ground and immediately stop
#2386 [22:58] <CyclopsCaveman> are there any map renderers that can render servers?
#2387 [22:58] <xales> Inertia does not exist in Minecraft
#2388 [22:58] <xales> CyclopsCaveman: Any of them that can render the new map format
#2389 [22:58] <xales> (try c10t)
#2390 [22:58] <Slakker> well.. it should.. :)
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#2393 [22:59] <Slakker> can you imagine the youtube videos of carts jumping over the grand canyon?? LOL
#2394 [23:00] <CyclopsCaveman> c10t gives me a 404 :(
#2395 [23:00] <Kave> anyone know of how to fix java connection reset issue? I can't play multiplayer or singleplayer because of this
#2396 [23:00] <xales> CyclopsCaveman: What?
#2397 [23:00] <CyclopsCaveman> mac user
#2398 [23:01] <xales> Kave: What exactly is the error, and when do you get it?
#2399 [23:01] <CyclopsCaveman> http://toolchain.eu/minecraft/c10t/releases/c10t-1.7-osx-intel.zip
#2400 [23:01] <xales> CyclopsCaveman: It says right next to it, "Not Available"
#2401 [23:02] <Kave> 2011-04-09 18:11:02 [SEVERE] java.net.SocketException: Connection reset 2011-04-09 18:11:02 [SEVERE] at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:185) 2011-04-09 18:11:02 [SEVERE] at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:199) 2011-04-09 18:11:02 [SEVERE] at java.io.FilterInputStream.read(FilterInputStream.java:83) 2011-0
#2402 [23:02] <CyclopsCaveman> i know
#2403 [23:02] <Kave> I get it when I try and join a server / single player game
#2404 [23:02] <xales> Kave: Copy the entire error to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link
#2405 [23:02] <CyclopsCaveman> i might have to compile the linux version but i dont wanna have to do that bullshit
#2406 [23:02] <Kave> http://pastebin.com/2h44XC5x
#2407 [23:03] <xales> Kave: Is that the entire error?
#2408 [23:04] <Kave> from what i can see yes
#2409 [23:04] <Kave> thats what happens on the server side
#2410 [23:04] <Daggaroth> now, how do I get a server to allow us to collect items like wood and such?
#2411 [23:04] <Ir0nman> Do people still use Himachi?
#2412 [23:04] <xales> Kave: What happens when you try to play single player?
#2413 [23:04] <Ir0nman> Doesnt Minecraft do that by default?
#2414 [23:04] <xales> Daggaroth: Move away from the spawn
#2415 [23:04] <xales> Ir0nman: People do, of course, but it's a very bad thing
#2416 [23:05] <Daggaroth> ahh thanks xales yet again
#2417 [23:05] <Kave> xales: well apparently single player is now working... but i can't join any multiplayer servers
#2418 [23:05] <Ir0nman> Himachi is for non official versions or something like that? I see it all the time just dont know the usage
#2419 [23:05] <xales> Kave: What do you see on the client when you try to connect to a server?
#2420 [23:05] <xales> Ir0nman: It's mostly for people who don't know how or are too lazy to port forward
#2421 [23:06] <Kave> it says joining server then crashes
#2422 [23:06] <xales> Kave: What username are you logging in with?
#2423 [23:06] <Kave> Kave
#2424 [23:06] <xales> ??> Kave win/reinst
#2425 [23:06] <VoxelHead> Kave: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2426 [23:06] <VoxelHead> Kave: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2427 [23:06] <Kave> I have done that
#2428 [23:07] <Kave> it doesnt change it
#2429 [23:07] <xales> Is there an error report on the client side
#2430 [23:07] <Kave> where would i see this?
#2431 [23:07] <xales> It should be a .txt file in the same folder as Minecraft.exe
#2432 [23:09] <Kave> http://pastebin.com/r1s52rBL
#2433 [23:10] <xales> That's...interesting
#2434 [23:10] <xales> do you have a firewall running on your computer?
#2435 [23:10] <Kave> umm norton
#2436 [23:10] <xales> yeah..Norton sucks...it tends to cause problems like this
#2437 [23:10] <xales> try disabling it, or at least the firewall component
#2438 [23:10] <xales> (if not uninstalling it completely ._.)
#2439 [23:11] <luckz> CyclopsCaveman: do you use a server mod or not?
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#2441 [23:12] <luckz> Kave: are you behind a router or some other firewall unrelated to norton?
#2442 [23:12] <xales> luckz: It looks like a software-level issue
#2443 [23:12] <xales> (but I'm not sure)
#2444 [23:13] <Kave> luckz: xales I am behind a router. The server is on the same LAN though. I disabled Norton completely. Here is the error report after i did that. http://pastebin.com/w26LrK0s
#2445 [23:14] <CyclopsCaveman> luckz> CyclopsCaveman: do you use a server mod or not? <- like bukkit or etc?
#2446 [23:14] <luckz> CyclopsCaveman: sure
#2447 [23:14] <xales> Kave: Uninstall "FoxyProxy Video Utility"
#2448 [23:14] <CyclopsCaveman> yeah, the server im trying to map uses server mods
#2449 [23:14] <luckz> xales: I was just going to recommend him to not get rid of norton if it's his only protection vs the outside world, but if he's behind a router it should be safe :P
#2450 [23:15] <luckz> CyclopsCaveman: so why not use dynmap for bukkit then?
#2451 [23:15] <Kave> xales: are you a wizard? lol i did install that earlier...
#2452 [23:15] <luckz> it's easier than compiling anything and running it regularly ;P
#2453 [23:15] <CyclopsCaveman> /dynmap?
#2454 [23:15] <luckz> CyclopsCaveman: like http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/misc-dynmap-v0-15-realtime-minecraft-maps-617.489/ , #dynmap
#2455 [23:15] <xales> Kave: The error is inside "FPServiceProvider64.dll" which is part of FoxyProxy
#2456 [23:17] <Kave> xales: ok uninstalling right now
#2457 [23:17] <Kave> xales: i'll tell you how it works
#2458 [23:17] <luckz> if it's peculiarly intrusive software it might need a reboot
#2459 [23:18] <Kave> xales: Thank you so much!
#2460 [23:19] <xales> no problem
#2461 [23:19] <CyclopsCaveman> thanks for the help
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#2465 [23:22] <koulchilebaiz> Hi, I would like to know how much resources I need to dedicate for a 15 user minecraft server ? thanks
#2466 [23:23] <oldtopman> houlchilebaiz: http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/
#2467 [23:24] <koulchilebaiz> thanks, but i does not take in account user number does it ?
#2468 [23:24] <xales> koulchilebaiz: about 3GB of RAM, and a pretty decent CPU
#2469 [23:24] <xales> (just for the Minecraft server)
#2470 [23:25] <koulchilebaiz> fuck its a lot. by decent cpu you mean cuad core 2.5Ghz or higher ?
#2471 [23:25] <xales> Clock speed means little
#2472 [23:25] <xales> as does number of cores
#2473 [23:26] <koulchilebaiz> then what ?
#2474 [23:26] <xales> If it's a workstation/desktop/home comptuer, probably not the best idea
#2475 [23:26] <xales> (especially with a residential Internet connection)
#2476 [23:26] <koulchilebaiz> no its goin to be a dedicated serv
#2477 [23:26] <koulchilebaiz> what do you think of that : http://gamehostz.com/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=show&cid=7&name=minecraft-light-vps&Itemid=9&category_pathway=13
#2478 [23:26] <xales> pretty much anything on the market that's not budget hardware should be fine then
#2479 [23:27] <koulchilebaiz> ?
#2480 [23:27] <xales> Never heard of them, and that's far too little resources
#2481 [23:27] <xales> also, a VPS is not a dedicated server :|
#2482 [23:27] <luckz> oldtopman: actually your highlight hadn't even crashed my client, me clicking the balloon popup just somehow made the client minimise to the SNA and I only found it again now :D
#2483 [23:27] <xales> I reccomend AllGamer, personally (http://allgamer.net )
#2484 [23:28] <oldtopman> XD
#2485 [23:28] <xales> (Look for Minecraft Server under "Game servers")
#2486 [23:28] <luckz> I use http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix/ , personally (that's an actual dedicated server machine though, not simply a minecraft daemon)
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#2488 [23:30] <xales> (if you don't know what that means, it's not what you want)
#2489 [23:31] <koulchilebaiz> Yeah I know what that means, thanks. But how much would cost a dedicated serv ? I mean roghfly
#2490 [23:31] <koulchilebaiz> luckz: maybe thats too much ?
#2491 [23:32] <koulchilebaiz> xales: why VP wont work ?
#2492 [23:32] <luckz> http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix-special <- I don't find the cheaper ones very attractive
#2493 [23:32] <xales> It's not that a VPS won't work
#2494 [23:32] <luckz> the point of a VPS is typically to give you some CPU and very limited RAM
#2495 [23:32] <xales> it's that that one specifically doesn't have enough resources
#2496 [23:33] <luckz> so for that reason dedicated RAM on a VPS tends to be extremely expensive
#2497 [23:33] <luckz> and VPSes in general are damn pricy
#2498 [23:33] <koulchilebaiz> n that one : http://gamehostz.com/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=show&cid=15&name=dedi-minecraft-extreme&Itemid=9&category_pathway=13
#2499 [23:33] <luckz> plus the cheaper a VPS is, the higher the likelihood that the hosting company offering it oversells their servers :D
#2500 [23:33] <xales> koulchilebaiz: this is what you want, https://allgamer.net/clients/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0
#2501 [23:34] <AG_Scott> You can't link to that
#2502 [23:34] <koulchilebaiz> no sorry, I meant that one, its cheap ? http://gamehostz.com/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=show&cid=12&name=dedi-minecraft-medium&Itemid=9&category_pathway=13
#2503 [23:34] <AG_Scott> :P
#2504 [23:34] <xales> AG_Scott: but I can
#2505 [23:34] <xales> I think
#2506 [23:34] <xales> derp
#2507 [23:34] <luckz> and one gb of ram at that allgamer website already is $37 per month! that's crazy!
#2508 [23:34] <AG_Scott> but it wont work
#2509 [23:34] <xales> AG_Scott: well, it used to ._.
#2510 [23:34] <AG_Scott> no it didnt lol
#2511 [23:34] <xales> koulchilebaiz: https://allgamer.net/gameservers/
#2512 [23:34] <xales> that
#2513 [23:34] <xales> click
#2514 [23:34] <AG_Scott> right click the icon and get the link :P
#2515 [23:34] <xales> "Minecraft Beta Premium"
#2516 [23:35] <koulchilebaiz> xales: okay. n that one ? http://gamehostz.com/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=show&cid=12&name=dedi-minecraft-medium&Itemid=9&category_pathway=13
#2517 [23:35] <xales> koulchilebaiz: I've never heard of that company...and from the look of their site..I wouldn't recommend them
#2518 [23:35] <xales> look at the AllGamer site
#2519 [23:35] <xales> that is exactly what you want ._.
#2520 [23:35] <xales> (and no, that's still not enough)
#2521 [23:36] <AG_Scott> Who steals an outlook express icon?
#2522 [23:36] <koulchilebaiz> okay thanks =) . But I dont want to put 100 bucks in that. I mean its a lot
#2523 [23:36] <xales> You won't get a good one for any cheaper
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#2525 [23:37] <xales> that's what the cost of a larger serever is
#2526 [23:37] <xales> server*
#2527 [23:37] <koulchilebaiz> okay. why isnt it workin ? https://allgamer.net/dedicatedservers/
#2528 [23:38] <xales> that's not what you want
#2529 [23:38] <xales> it will be MORE expensive
#2530 [23:38] <xales> not less
#2531 [23:39] <luckz> koulchilebaiz: what country are you or your playerbase even in?
#2532 [23:39] <koulchilebaiz> okay. n it does not say CPU ressources https://allgamer.net/clients/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=3 ?
#2533 [23:39] <koulchilebaiz> luckz: France, Canada, China
#2534 [23:39] <xales> koulchilebaiz: because it's not a physical server
#2535 [23:39] <xales> it's _just_ a Minecraft server
#2536 [23:40] <koulchilebaiz> xales: but thats what I need right ?
#2537 [23:40] <xales> yes
#2538 [23:40] <AG_Scott> It's hosted on dual E5620s though
#2539 [23:40] <xales> you won't find much better than that ._.
#2540 [23:40] <luckz> koulchilebaiz: so the US isn't really a better idea, is it? can people from China even play with the rest of the world?
#2541 [23:40] <xales> luckz: they have servers in other countries, as well
#2542 [23:40] <AG_Scott> China isn't north korea ._.
#2543 [23:41] <xales> the Netherlands location is probably the best
#2544 [23:41] <koulchilebaiz> luckz: yeah thay can, and china US West ping is better than EU China ping
#2545 [23:41] <koulchilebaiz> xales: no I dont think so. Ping with europe is very bad
#2546 [23:41] <xales> well, I wouldn't know ._.
#2547 [23:42] <luckz> xales: do all locations cost the same?
#2548 [23:42] <koulchilebaiz> can we choose server location with allgamer servs ?
#2549 [23:42] <xales> luckz: yes
#2550 [23:42] <koulchilebaiz> is it west or est ?
#2551 [23:42] <luckz> xales: lol
#2552 [23:42] <xales> koulchilebaiz: it says right there on the page, it's west coast US
#2553 [23:42] <AG_Scott> koulchilebaiz, there is space available in Dallas.
#2554 [23:42] <AG_Scott> It's right in the middle.
#2555 [23:42] <xales> Dallas? Not really
#2556 [23:42] <xales> Dallas is much more west than easy
#2557 [23:42] <xales> ._.
#2558 [23:42] <koulchilebaiz> AG_Scott: I prefer west
#2559 [23:42] <xales> koulchilebaiz: Dallas is west :|
#2560 [23:42] <luckz> AG_Scott: maybe you should give him some IPs to ping from china
#2561 [23:42] <AG_Scott> We're sold out in California right now.
#2562 [23:43] <koulchilebaiz> Then, I should take 2Gb ? 4Gb ? ram
#2563 [23:43] <luckz> makes more sense that arguing about location.
#2564 [23:43] <luckz> *than
#2565 [23:43] <xales> koulchilebaiz: http://www.traveljournals.net/maps/us/3/33569-dallas-united-states-map-zoom-x4.jpg and as I said before, and like it says, 2GB should be enough
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#2567 [23:44] <koulchilebaiz> look : http://www.speedtest.net/result/1244900818.png
#2568 [23:45] <AG_Scott> ping that IP koulchilebaiz
#2569 [23:45] <xales> AG_Scott: you didn't paste an IP
#2570 [23:45] <xales> derp
#2571 [23:45] <AG_Scott> xales, notice
#2572 [23:45] <xales> ah
#2573 [23:46] <koulchilebaiz> sorry didnt get it
#2574 [23:47] <AG_Scott> what about now?
#2575 [23:47] <koulchilebaiz> k
#2576 [23:48] <koulchilebaiz> o% packet loss and about 259
#2577 [23:48] <koulchilebaiz> whats the IP for west cost ?
#2578 [23:49] <koulchilebaiz> 64 bytes from 209.236.124.185: icmp_seq=9 ttl=47 time=259.895 ms
#2579 [23:49] <koulchilebaiz> AG_Scott: what's the IP of the west cost serv ?
#2580 [23:51] <AG_Scott> There's no space there and we don't plan on adding anymore.
#2581 [23:52] <koulchilebaiz> Okay. Do you think 260ms ping is enough ?
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