#1 [00:00] <AG_Scott> koulchilebaiz, get on chserver.net
#2 [00:00] <AG_Scott> its hosted in the same datacenter
#3 [00:01] <koulchilebaiz> well i got 365 ms ping
#4 [00:02] <AG_Scott> i mean get on the server
#5 [00:02] <AG_Scott> and see if it's playable
#6 [00:03] <koulchilebaiz> okay . are you admin of that serv ?
#7 [00:03] <AG_Scott> no
#8 [00:03] <AG_Scott> they're one of our customers
#9 [00:04] <koulchilebaiz> great. ctrl v doestn work in minecraft
#10 [00:05] <koulchilebaiz> yes its working. man its huuuge
#11 [00:06] <AG_Scott> lol
#12 [00:06] <koulchilebaiz> wow
#13 [00:06] <koulchilebaiz> wtf. lol have you been in that spawn point ??
#14 [00:10] <AG_Scott> i've been on the old one
#15 [00:10] <koulchilebaiz> that huuge thing you cant get up there ?
#16 [00:14] <koulchilebaiz> n how many connections ?
#17 [00:14] <koulchilebaiz> it supports?
#18 [00:16] <AG_Scott> umm
#19 [00:16] <AG_Scott> that server has had like 250 players on i think
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#21 [00:18] <Bugboy1028> How i get rid of that red thingy on F3 ?
#22 [00:18] <xales> You can't
#23 [00:18] <xales> I think
#24 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> You can't
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#27 [00:21] <Bugboy1028> Awww, Notch should offer optinpion for it
#28 [00:21] <Bugboy1028> the Lag Meter ( Red thingy ? ) COVERED 1/2 of my game screen
#29 [00:22] <Phenex> Greetings. When I login into Minecraft it immediately closes and I get this error message. http://pastebin.com/jfUEncEc I have already re installed
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#31 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Looks like an issue with your nvidia video drivers, I'd start with reinstalling those
#32 [00:24] <Phenex> I'll get on that now, back soon.
#33 [00:24] <Phenex> Must I uninstall the driver?
#34 [00:24] <Phenex> Or can I open the exe and go from there
#35 [00:25] <xales> should be able to just open it
#36 [00:26] <Phenex> ..the install failed
#37 [00:27] <Phenex> specially on the graphic driver install
#38 [00:28] <Phenex> I will try an uninstall then install fresh?
#39 [00:29] <xales> What graphics card is it?
#40 [00:30] <Phenex> geforce 8600 gt
#41 [00:30] <xales> try uninstalling then, I guess
#42 [00:30] <Phenex> I did
#43 [00:30] <Phenex> Currently do so
#44 [00:31] <Phenex> the uninstall changed my resolution dramatically
#45 [00:31] <Phenex> requires restart. I'll come back if nothing is fixed after the install.
#46 [00:31] <Phenex> Thanks
#47 [00:40] <koulchilebaiz> can I activate AA?
#48 [00:42] <xales> koulchilebaiz: AA?
#49 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> antialiasing?
#50 [00:42] <koulchilebaiz> anti aliasing
#51 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Uh, nope
#52 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> There is no depth of field calculation, every block you see, is actually rendered as is.
#53 [00:43] <koulchilebaiz> what the f is that ? http://jolstatic.fr/www/captures/1478/6/37726.jpg
#54 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> That's not a normal client
#55 [00:44] <koulchilebaiz> but its possible to activate it
#56 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Possibly, through your video card's control panel, if it has settings for openGL rendering
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#62 [01:01] <Phenex> Was told Vista 64 bit drivers would work with windows 7, true?
#63 [01:02] <xales> If there is a win7 driver, use that
#64 [01:02] <xales> make sure it's the correct architecture
#65 [01:02] <Phenex> There isnt :(
#66 [01:02] <xales> O_o
#67 [01:02] <Phenex> ASus doesn't have win7 drivers for my board
#68 [01:03] <xales> get the graphics card driver from nVidia
#69 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> use nvidia.com
#70 [01:03] <xales> not asus
#71 [01:03] <xales> ._.
#72 [01:03] <Phenex> I did that
#73 [01:03] <Phenex> still nothing
#74 [01:03] <Phenex> still no sound
#75 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure nvidia will have drivers for your card
#76 [01:03] <Phenex> for my sound card? :S
#77 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> er
#78 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#79 [01:04] <Phenex> It's integrated into the motherboard though?
#80 [01:04] <Phenex> I'm still trying to solve my no sound issue, the problem I mentioned earlier is fine now
#81 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#82 [01:04] <Phenex> I guess I should have cleared that up, my bad
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#84 [01:05] <Phenex> Like I said, Asus doesn't provide Windows 7 drivers for the sound card,,,
#85 [01:05] <Salty> Anyone on familiar with MineOS?
#86 [01:05] <Phenex> but the card itself IS windows 7 compatible
#87 [01:06] <Phenex> I was wondering if there is something I can do to get sound.. :/
#88 [01:06] <Phenex> No sound on a computer isn't very fun
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#91 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Um, then, have you looked for an ASUS sound driver update?
#92 [01:07] <That1person> hey guys
#93 [01:08] <Phenex> azsdf
#94 [01:08] <That1person> hey can i get some help on making a private beta server?
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#96 [01:08] <Salty> what do you need to know/
#97 [01:09] <That1person> just about everything
#98 [01:09] <That1person> lol im a no pro
#99 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> The server file can be found here:
#100 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> !server
#101 [01:09] <That1person> i just downloaded the server soft ware from minecraft.net
#102 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to run that in its own directory, it'll make more files
#103 [01:09] <Salty> basically, all you need to do is download the Minecraft_server.exe, drop it in a folder and go
#104 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> You'll then need to port forward it, if you're behind a router.
#105 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft uses port 25565/TCP by default
#106 [01:09] <That1person> ?...
#107 [01:10] <Salty> start it up and get someone to try to connect first
#108 [01:10] <That1person> im on the software winra trying to figure out wat to do
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#111 [01:10] <Salty> if people outside your LAN can't connect with the IP then it's your router
#112 [01:10] <That1person> so wat do i do?
#113 [01:11] <Salty> do you have it running?
#114 [01:11] <Phenex> Asus doesn't have drivers for windows 7 for my board(despite it being win7 compatible) Was wondering if there was an alternative
#115 [01:11] <That1person> i hav a router
#116 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Do you know anything about networking?
#117 [01:11] <That1person> no
#118 [01:11] <That1person> like i said im a no pro
#119 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Okay, do you know how to access your router?
#120 [01:11] <That1person> nope...
#121 [01:11] * GreyVulpine sighs
#121 [01:11] <That1person> i hav one but i dont ever do much with it
#122 [01:12] <That1person> srry guys...
#123 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#124 [01:12] <That1person> ?
#125 [01:12] <Phenex> oh boy..
#126 [01:12] <That1person> windows7 a operating system?
#127 [01:12] <Salty> yes
#128 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
#129 [01:12] <That1person> ok then im on that
#130 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Could you please go to your start menu, and in the search bar, type in: cmd
#131 [01:13] <That1person> k
#132 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, a black command prompt will open.
#133 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> There, you'll want to type in: ipconfig
#134 [01:13] <That1person> k wait
#135 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Tell me your ipv4 address and default gateway
#136 [01:14] <Phenex> Asus doesn't have drivers for windows 7 for my board(despite it being win7 compatible) Was wondering if there was an alternative
#137 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Could you try using the vista drivers?
#138 [01:14] <Phenex> I did, nothing :/
#139 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#140 [01:15] <Phenex> I don't see anything on mute and sound is registering when I do a test
#141 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Does your sound control panel have any output settings?
#142 [01:15] <That1person> 192.168.1.16
#143 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Does it have an option anywhere to force it?
#144 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> That1person - I assume then, your default gateway address is 192.168.1.1
#145 [01:15] <That1person> 192.168.1.1
#146 [01:15] <That1person> yep
#147 [01:16] <That1person> force it?
#148 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> That1person - Alright, open up a web browser, go to http://192.168.1.1
#149 [01:16] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: Where might I find this force option?
#150 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Control panel -> sound ? Does it say the HDMI output is enabled?
#151 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> and a cable is plugged in?
#152 [01:17] <Phenex> A cable is plugged in but there is no hmdi available to select under sound devices
#153 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Huh..
#154 [01:17] <That1person> ok i clicked the link and logged in but it says i dont hav authorization
#155 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> That1person - Then you'll need to find the username and password for your router.
#156 [01:18] <That1person> o god...
#157 [01:18] <That1person> hmm...
#158 [01:18] <That1person> wat would my dads user name be
#159 [01:18] <That1person> hmm...
#160 [01:19] <That1person> i think i know his password but not his user name lol
#161 [01:19] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: Under control panel > hardware and sound > Manage audio devices
#162 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to ask your dad.
#163 [01:19] <Phenex> under playback, there is no hmdi available to select
#164 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Bleh, I hate win7's category views
#165 [01:19] <Phenex> just speaker
#166 [01:19] <Phenex> hmph.
#167 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#168 [01:20] <Phenex> Doesnt work throuh 3.5mm either
#169 [01:20] <Phenex> I plugged that in as well
#170 [01:20] <That1person> well looks like i might come back here tommorow then when i can access the router
#171 [01:20] <That1person> thanks anyways guys...
#172 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#173 [01:21] <That1person> ty
#174 [01:21] <That1person> bye guys
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#176 [01:21] <Phenex> Any thoughs GreyVulpine?
#177 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> I don't know.. this is what I see on my WIn7 rig
#178 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/Atncn.png
#179 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Can you go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and go to properties
#180 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> On the window there, go to the device manager
#181 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> See if you have any yellow exclamation marks in there.
#182 [01:25] <Phenex> http://i.imgur.com/CzJOJ.png
#183 [01:26] <Tris> do all ports or only some need to be opened for doing a server?
#184 [01:26] <xales> 25565
#185 [01:26] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: Not sure where I would see these yellow ticks, but I do not see any in the device manager
#186 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Hmm...
#187 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Could you try going to the sound controllers in the device manager, right click on one of those and try "Update drivers"?
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#189 [01:30] <Phenex> searching for updates.
#190 [01:30] <Phenex> best driver already installed.
#191 [01:30] <Phenex> :L/
#192 [01:30] <Phenex> :/
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#194 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, weird then.
#195 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you perhaps go to your computer's BIOS, and make sure the onboard audio stuff is enabled in there?
#196 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> You're not using a dedicated sound card, right?
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#198 [01:33] <gert4> Any thoughts? or am I sol?
#199 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> [01:32.09am] <@GreyVulpine> Could you perhaps go to your computer's BIOS, and make sure the onboard audio stuff is enabled in there?
#200 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> [01:32.27am] <@GreyVulpine> You're not using a dedicated sound card, right?
#201 [01:33] <f3> Im really confused here...
#202 [01:33] <f3> this is
#203 [01:33] <f3> phenex..
#204 [01:34] <f3> but I am somehow still logged in
#205 [01:34] <f3> Wont let me select my own nick because it says it's in use
#206 [01:34] <xales> f3: /msg nickserv regain Phenex (password)
#207 [01:34] <xales> put the nickserv password inplace of (password)
#208 [01:34] <Phenex> Perfect, Thank you
#209 [01:35] <Phenex> What do you mean dedicated soundcard?
#210 [01:35] <Phenex> It is part of my motherboard as far as I know
#211 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Do you have another sound card plugged into your computer, or are you just using the onboard?
#212 [01:36] <Phenex> Nothing else that Im aware of
#213 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, I'd take a look at your computer's system BIOS to see if onboard sound is enabled.
#214 [01:37] <Phenex> okay, back in a jiffy
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#218 [01:43] <aetherian> whoa kealper
#219 [01:43] <aetherian> double op
#220 [01:43] <aetherian> it's twice the op :D
#221 [01:43] <Kealper> all the way
#222 [01:43] <Kealper> it's starting to look like....
#223 [01:44] <aetherian> I finally finished
#224 [01:44] <Kealper> a triple op :o
#225 [01:44] <aetherian> reading eight bit theater :)
#226 [01:44] <Kealper> lol
#227 [01:44] <aetherian> so there's a small chance I wasn't referencing the rainbow video
#228 [01:45] <Kealper> i didn't even know you were or were not, but i was lol
#229 [01:45] <aetherian> and on to the next webcomic
#230 [01:45] <aetherian> this will be my biggest feat
#231 [01:46] <aetherian> gonna read toothpaste for dinner. kbai.
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#233 [01:47] <Phenex> The only things in my onboard devices(in BIOS) that are disabled are; "RAID enabled" and "onboard nvidia lan boot ROM"
#234 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Anything concerning sound?
#235 [01:47] <Phenex> Nothing had the word sound in it specifically
#236 [01:47] * GreyVulpine blinks
#236 [01:47] <Phenex> but as far as onboard devices go, everything was enabled except those two
#237 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#238 [01:48] <Phenex> hmm indeed.
#239 [01:52] * Phenex bangs his head against the desk
#239 [01:56] <Phenex> out of ideas? lol
#240 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't know..
#241 [01:58] <Phenex> damn, this sucks
#242 [01:58] <Phenex> I have a sound card I could use but my wiresless network card is taking up my only PCI slot
#243 [01:59] * Phenex wants sound!!!
#243 [02:01] <aetherian> oh, you don
#244 [02:02] <aetherian> don't have sound?
#245 [02:02] <aetherian> could be worse
#246 [02:02] <Phenex> I don't have sound in general (not just minecraft)
#247 [02:02] <aetherian> still, could be worse
#248 [02:02] <Phenex> Half the internet is useless to me with no sound lol
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#250 [02:03] <aetherian> ye gods
#251 [02:03] <aetherian> are you one of those people who mainly use the internet for AOL radio?
#252 [02:03] <Phenex> bahahaha no
#253 [02:03] <Phenex> I don't listen to radio
#254 [02:03] <aetherian> there's plenty online that does not involve sound
#255 [02:04] <Phenex> I am a musician and record my own stuff....
#256 [02:04] <Phenex> so sound is kind of importantll
#257 [02:04] <aetherian> reading random wikipedia articles is fun :D
#258 [02:04] <Phenex> listening to music is impossible!
#259 [02:04] <Phenex> or watching instructional videos? lol
#260 [02:04] <Phenex> Although, that is fun
#261 [02:04] <aetherian> if sound's that important, just ditch the wireless
#262 [02:04] <aetherian> good ol
#263 [02:04] <aetherian> ethernet
#264 [02:04] <Phenex> Other computer is to far away
#265 [02:05] <aetherian> and good ol' accidentally hitting enter instead of '
#266 [02:05] <Phenex> lol
#267 [02:05] <aetherian> I get disoriented when it's all darj
#268 [02:05] <aetherian> dark, even
#269 [02:06] <Phenex> Not doing so great tonight, are you? lol
#270 [02:07] <aetherian> nope.
#271 [02:07] <aetherian> been sick the past few days.
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#273 [02:08] <Phenex> Bummer
#274 [02:08] <aetherian> you sound all broken up about it
#275 [02:08] <aetherian> .-.
#276 [02:08] <Phenex> I can't help t
#277 [02:08] <Phenex> it..
#278 [02:08] <Phenex> Now IM getting sick...
#279 [02:08] <Phenex> Look what you did
#280 [02:08] <aetherian> now I'm happy :D
#281 [02:09] <Phenex> hahaha
#282 [02:09] <Phenex> brb. restar
#283 [02:09] <Phenex> t.
#284 [02:09] <aetherian> nothing cures sickness like making someone else sick
#285 [02:09] <Phenex> You're an asshole.
#286 [02:09] <Phenex> hahaha
#287 [02:10] <aetherian> :)
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#289 [02:10] <wjd86> hello
#290 [02:10] <aetherian> the best way to cure sickness is to kill a guy, but it's not a perfect way, because some other jerk will just catch the same sickness too.
#291 [02:10] <aetherian> hello, wj
#292 [02:10] <wjd86> can anyoone help me with my server?
#293 [02:11] <aetherian> ooh ooh
#294 [02:11] <aetherian> pick me
#295 [02:11] <aetherian> I'm only slightly contagious
#296 [02:11] <wjd86> haha
#297 [02:11] <wjd86> i keep getting xx.xxx.xxx.xx lost connection ...
#298 [02:11] <wjd86> each time someone tries to connect :/
#299 [02:11] <aetherian> and what are they getting?
#300 [02:11] <wjd86> no idea... thats the problem :P
#301 [02:12] <wjd86> i dont know anyone who plays
#302 [02:12] <aetherian> hang on
#303 [02:12] <aetherian> I canmake it in
#304 [02:13] <aetherian> can make, even
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#306 [02:14] <Abyssyml> I am trying to create a server for the game but people are having problems connecting, is there something that I need to do special?
#307 [02:14] <wjd86> i was havinf the same issue
#308 [02:15] <Abyssyml> were you able to get it fixed?
#309 [02:15] <aetherian> define having problems
#310 [02:15] <Abyssyml> well, its timing out
#311 [02:15] <wjd86> aetherian tested it out for me, works fine
#312 [02:15] <wjd86> thanks man
#313 [02:15] <aetherian> define timing out
#314 [02:15] <aetherian> as in
#315 [02:15] <Abyssyml> im not sure if at&t is blocking it or what, but I changed ports and they still cannot connect
#316 [02:15] <aetherian> uh
#317 [02:15] <aetherian> did you port forward?
#318 [02:16] <aetherian> it's not att's fault
#319 [02:16] <Abyssyml> yup
#320 [02:16] <aetherian> and what error exactly are people getting when trying to connect?
#321 [02:16] <Abyssyml> and is it udp or tcp
#322 [02:16] <aetherian> tcp
#323 [02:17] <Abyssyml> hang on and I will have someone try to connect
#324 [02:17] <aetherian> port 25565 is recommended (by me)
#325 [02:17] <aetherian> and make sure you don't have to do it on multiple routers for it to work
#326 [02:18] <Abyssyml> well see the computer that is hosting it is DMZ'd
#327 [02:18] <wjd86> whats a good place to post my server info ?
#328 [02:18] <aetherian> and you are sure you pressed save when setting it :>
#329 [02:18] <aetherian> wjd86: #smp is fine if you lurk a while
#330 [02:18] <xales> wjd86: forum, server lists
#331 [02:19] <aetherian> otherwise, the forums.
#332 [02:19] <Abyssyml> yes im sure.. :) I may have to reboot that pc to make sure it goes thru
#333 [02:19] <aetherian> that shouldn't be necessary, but what the hey
#334 [02:20] <Abyssyml> ok so yes, that computer is dmz'd and it is saved, but they keep telling me that minecraft just says its timing out
#335 [02:20] <aetherian> and the computer in question has a good internet connection, I would presume
#336 [02:21] <Abyssyml> yes, its actually the same one im on
#337 [02:21] <aetherian> and that also they are connecting to the correct IP
#338 [02:21] <wjd86> i dont understand why i keep getting tons of lost connection messages :/
#339 [02:21] <Abyssyml> yes its the corect ip
#340 [02:22] <xales> Abyssyml: Did you put an IP in the server.properties file?
#341 [02:22] <wjd86> firewall?
#342 [02:22] <Abyssyml> no I did not xales
#343 [02:22] <aetherian> 70.255.83.208?
#344 [02:22] <xales> As wjd86 says, firewall?
#345 [02:23] <Abyssyml> thats my ip
#346 [02:23] <aetherian> okay then
#347 [02:23] <Abyssyml> no firewall is setup on there
#348 [02:23] <aetherian> yes, connection refused, if anyone is wondering.
#349 [02:23] <aetherian> unless you took it down, haha.
#350 [02:23] <wjd86> are you running windows?
#351 [02:23] <Abyssyml> yes windows
#352 [02:23] <Abyssyml> its up, im looking at it right now
#353 [02:23] <wjd86> and youre positive that windows firewall is down or port'd?
#354 [02:24] <xales> aetherian: connection refused is a firewall, wrong port, or server not running
#355 [02:24] <xales> continue helping
#356 [02:24] <xales> ._.
#357 [02:24] <Abyssyml> turned off
#358 [02:24] <aetherian> xales: I know .-.
#359 [02:24] <aetherian> that's why I said
#360 [02:24] <Abyssyml> firewall is off, that pc is dmz'd and the server is running
#361 [02:24] <aetherian> "unless you took it down" because I hadn't even thought that he may have took it down once people couldn't connect
#362 [02:24] <xales> Abyssyml: What port?
#363 [02:25] <wjd86> i should just sit in here a few hours a day, i would learn a ton
#364 [02:25] <aetherian> also, did you run the server software twice?
#365 [02:25] <wjd86> haha aeth good call
#366 [02:25] <Abyssyml> 25565
#367 [02:25] <Abyssyml> I may have
#368 [02:25] <Abyssyml> let me check
#369 [02:25] <aetherian> ex it out and run it again
#370 [02:26] <aetherian> or rather
#371 [02:26] <wjd86> should i be woried if i keep seeing the same ip address continously try and fail to connect to my server?
#372 [02:26] <aetherian> type stop
#373 [02:26] <xales> wjd86: what is the address?
#374 [02:26] <aetherian> wjd86: someone's just tryfailing to get in, most likely
#375 [02:26] <wjd86> 94.231.101.83
#376 [02:27] <Abyssyml> ok can someone try connecting again?
#377 [02:27] <aetherian> can do
#378 [02:27] <wjd86> dif ports, not sure if thats normal
#379 [02:27] <xales> wjd86: that's just the remote port, it will always be like that
#380 [02:27] <wjd86> ah ok
#381 [02:27] <xales> err
#382 [02:27] <aetherian> I was right
#383 [02:27] <aetherian> I can get in now
#384 [02:27] <xales> you might want to firewall that
#385 [02:27] <wjd86> remote port being?
#386 [02:27] <aetherian> :D
#387 [02:27] <Abyssyml> awesome
#388 [02:27] <xales> lol
#389 [02:27] <Abyssyml> yeh, I think the reboot helped it out some.. heh
#390 [02:27] <wjd86> ahrm?
#391 [02:27] <xales> remote port is the outbound port open on the remote system
#392 [02:27] <xales> you might want to block 94.231.101.83
#393 [02:28] <xales> ipban it
#394 [02:28] <Abyssyml> how can I make it a private server?
#395 [02:28] <wjd86> ok
#396 [02:28] <wjd86> how?
#397 [02:28] <xales> wjd86: in the console, 'banip 94.231.101.83' I think
#398 [02:28] <aetherian> add whitelist in server.properties
#399 [02:28] <xales> Abyssyml: put 'whitelist=true' in server.properties
#400 [02:28] <aetherian> yeah that
#401 [02:28] <aetherian> then add people to the file of whitelists
#402 [02:28] <Abyssyml> then I would have to add their ips to the whitelist right
#403 [02:28] <Abyssyml> ok cool
#404 [02:29] <xales> not IPs
#405 [02:29] <wjd86> xales, what did that mean?
#406 [02:29] <xales> their Minecraft usernames
#407 [02:29] <aetherian> woohoo
#408 [02:29] <xales> wjd86: what do you mean?
#409 [02:29] <aetherian> epic multitasking and I still get 150-200 fps on max graphics :D
#410 [02:29] <wjd86> xales, im confused about what was going on :P
#411 [02:30] <xales> wjd86: is the IP still trying to connect?
#412 [02:30] <aetherian> aww abby
#413 [02:30] <wjd86> outbound port open on the remote system...
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#415 [02:30] <aetherian> no pvp, I can't do my tradition
#416 [02:30] <aetherian> of punching the lights out of people I help
#417 [02:31] <wjd86> a different ip is now
#418 [02:31] <wjd86> wait nvm yes
#419 [02:31] <xales> wjd86: if you don't know what it means, just forget about it
#420 [02:31] <wjd86> it is
#421 [02:31] <aetherian> abby: a wolf :D
#422 [02:31] <wjd86> lol, im curious.. i like learning
#423 [02:31] <xales> wjd86: in the server console, type 'banip 94.231.101.83' and hit enter
#424 [02:31] <wjd86> did
#425 [02:31] <Abyssyml> is my server slow for you aetherian
#426 [02:31] <wjd86> -> console banning ......
#427 [02:31] <xales> wjd86: well...if you _really_ want to know...
#428 [02:31] <xales> http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/output/html/multipage/theory.html
#429 [02:31] <aetherian> Abyssyml: no, the wolf killed me quite quickly.
#430 [02:32] <wjd86> nect message is 94.231.101.83 lost connection
#431 [02:32] <aetherian> :>
#432 [02:33] <wjd86> all im wondering is if i should be worried or just ignore it
#433 [02:33] <wjd86> but yea im gonna read that xales, thanks
#434 [02:33] <Abyssyml> lol
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#436 [02:35] <mib_061ia5> Hey, i hate to ask about a 3rd party plugin but does any know how craft irc works?
#437 [02:35] <aetherian> obviously you don't hate it enough.
#438 [02:35] <mib_061ia5> sorry :3 but there irc is empty
#439 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> Basically it's an IRC integration plugin
#440 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> You set it up so the server leaves a bot in a network and channel that you set up and choose
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#442 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> and it'll transmit chat between the game and the IRC channel
#443 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Or how you want it to set it up, there's some fine tuning available
#444 [02:36] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: you shoulda been mean and told him how it /works/
#445 [02:36] <aetherian> :D
#446 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> I don't actually know
#447 [02:36] <aetherian> oh.
#448 [02:37] <aetherian> well then.
#449 [02:37] <mib_061ia5> so where do i get the irc or do i host that also
#450 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> That's up to you, do you have an IRC network?
#451 [02:37] <mib_061ia5> nope
#452 [02:37] <xales> ._.
#453 [02:37] <aetherian> you can set it to this irc network, if you wish
#454 [02:37] <aetherian> xales: don't erupt.
#455 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> Or you can use one of the thousands of IRC networks available
#456 [02:37] <mib_061ia5> k thanks Grey
#457 [02:38] <mib_061ia5> again sorry
#458 [02:38] <mib_061ia5> im off to see if i can get it to work
#459 [02:39] <aetherian> whew
#460 [02:40] <Abyssyml> thanks for all the help, but apparently everyon is lagging.. :(
#461 [02:40] <wjd86> aeth
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#463 [02:40] <wjd86> mind trying my server out agian? i just put up my firewalls :P
#464 [02:40] <aetherian> what.
#465 [02:40] <aetherian> Abyssyml: I wasn't.
#466 [02:40] <wjd86> want to make sure the ports are allowed
#467 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Seems there's a backbone router somewhere that died
#468 [02:41] <wjd86> help
#469 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> All my IRC networks just died for a sec
#470 [02:41] <wjd86> mt
#471 [02:41] <xales> wjd86: you can use the bot
#472 [02:41] <xales> just type '!check (ip)'
#473 [02:41] <aetherian> I'm in :D
#474 [02:41] <aetherian> ha!
#475 [02:42] <aetherian> take that AuBot
#476 [02:42] <xales> !check aetherian.com:80
#477 [02:42] <wjd86> lol
#478 [02:42] <xales> LOL
#479 [02:42] <wjd86> thanks
#480 [02:42] <aetherian> I wish
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#482 [02:42] <xales> !check aetherian.com:23
#483 [02:42] <xales> O_o
#484 [02:42] <aetherian> actually, I wish I had ae.theri.an
#485 [02:42] <aetherian> :>
#486 [02:42] <xales> .an exists?
#487 [02:43] <aetherian> it's dead
#488 [02:43] <aetherian> and being phased out
#489 [02:43] <aetherian> but yeah
#490 [02:43] <wjd86> !check 71.211.88.44:25565
#491 [02:43] <xales> wjd86: you don't need to put the port if it's the default
#492 [02:44] <aetherian> 76.211
#493 [02:44] <aetherian> not 71.211
#494 [02:44] <aetherian> >:
#495 [02:44] <wjd86> haha :P thanks
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#497 [02:44] <xales> !check 76.211.88.44
#498 [02:44] <wjd86> !check 76.211.88.44
#499 [02:44] <aetherian> all together now
#500 [02:44] <aetherian> !check 76.211.88.44
#501 [02:44] <wjd86> see if you can crash my server :P
#502 [02:44] <aetherian> gimme some tnt and I could
#503 [02:44] <GV> Is that a challenge?
#504 [02:45] <xales> ^
#505 [02:45] <aetherian> by some I mean 10+k
#506 [02:45] <aetherian> and yeah, don't challenge a take down
#507 [02:45] <wjd86> so ports are automated?
#508 [02:45] <aetherian> what internet plan do you have?
#509 [02:45] <xales> GV: I replicated Zido's exploit so I could test a friend's server for him ._.
#510 [02:45] <wjd86> within a specfic range?
#511 [02:45] * GV nods
#511 [02:45] <xales> (latest Bukkit has it fixed :D)
#512 [02:45] <aetherian> lolbukkit
#513 [02:45] <aetherian> yayvanilla
#514 [02:48] <aetherian> terminal tetris is one of the best things known to man
#515 [02:48] <aetherian> :D
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#520 [03:11] <aetherian> every night
#521 [03:11] <aetherian> at midnight
#522 [03:11] <aetherian> my connection fails, and I need to reboot
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#529 [03:38] <aetherian> sleepybread: heya
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#532 [03:42] <aetherian> there
#533 [03:43] <aetherian> finally got around to changing from the default wallpaper
#534 [03:44] <aetherian> adding random things to the hosts file is fun
#535 [03:44] <aetherian> insta shortcuts
#536 [03:46] <aetherian> minecraft isn't getting closer to being done; it's getting ready to become gamma.
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#538 [03:49] <aetherian> I need to memorize the greek attic numerals to tick off people whenever they want me to write something in numerals.
#539 [03:50] <aetherian> not specifying roman numberals.
#540 [03:50] <aetherian> numerals, even
#541 [03:51] <aetherian> oh god, 1.5's coming out.
#542 [03:51] <aetherian> meaning we'll get flooded again with "y my mod no work"
#543 [03:51] <aetherian> is anyone even awake?
#544 [03:56] <aetherian> I wonder how many cool websites are out there that aren't known because they have no DNS
#545 [03:56] <aetherian> er, DNS name thingy.
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#548 [04:11] <FireAndIce> hi
#549 [04:12] <FireAndIce> I am wondering if there is a way to set up a stone pressure plate so that a mine cart hits it when it goes past with you in it but without the cart losing speed?
#550 [04:12] <FireAndIce> it works for wooden plates (with that corner design) but not for stone
#551 [04:14] <aetherian> if it doesn't work then it doesn't work
#552 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> FireAndIce - sure, if you're in it, have the track go around it
#553 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Basically, make the track turn so it hits at least two edges of the pressure plate.
#554 [04:16] <FireAndIce> ok thanks i'll give that a go
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#578 [06:34] <RAWR_Ghosty> Can someone help me
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#580 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> With?
#581 [06:35] <RAWR_Ghosty> Free codes
#582 [06:35] <RAWR_Ghosty> The "no surveys" problem
#583 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> There are no "free codes"
#584 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> At best, they're making money off those free surveys at your expense, at worse, it's a scam
#585 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has no connection to those sites
#586 [06:38] <RAWR_Ghosty> :/
#587 [06:38] <RAWR_Ghosty> ok
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#590 [06:54] <GoodHelper> Salut / Hello
#591 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Hi
#592 [06:54] <GoodHelper> I need help / J'ai besoin d'aide
#593 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> With / Avec?
#594 [06:55] <GoodHelper> Minecraft, quand je joue en multijoueur je tombe tout le temps dans le vide, et c'est sur n'importe quelle serveur, des fois je peut joeur 3h sans prob mais c'est rare, et après ça recommence. Alors que en solo j'ai aucun problème
#595 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any firewalls or security software on your computer?
#596 [06:57] <GoodHelper> Yes
#597 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> What?
#598 [06:57] <GoodHelper> AVG Anti-virus free edition 2011
#599 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> Any firewalls?
#600 [06:57] <GoodHelper> No
#601 [06:57] <GoodHelper> He is desactivate
#602 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> What software?
#603 [06:58] <GoodHelper> Windows firewalls :')
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#605 [06:59] <GoodHelper> But that I had never done before
#606 [07:01] <GoodHelper> I've disabled my anti virus, nothing changed.
#607 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> Can you try updating your network card?
#608 [07:03] <GoodHelper> no
#609 [07:04] <GoodHelper> My network card is nVidia nForce Networking controller
#610 [07:07] <GoodHelper> :(
#611 [07:07] <GoodHelper> I have a minecraft server, and i can't play :/
#612 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> This is on your server?
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#614 [07:11] <GoodHelper> No
#615 [07:11] <GoodHelper> At all
#616 [07:16] <GoodHelper> Help me :'(
#617 [07:19] <GoodHelper> ça dure depuis 1 semaine environ :/
#618 [07:19] <GoodHelper> Je suis passé de SFR à Free
#619 [07:21] <GoodHelper> You are here?
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#624 [07:26] <GoodHelper> ....
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#627 [07:33] <GoodHelper> GreyVulpine
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#631 [07:46] <Kus> hi... i just downloaded MCedit, cuz i want to clear a big area (i am making a redstone computer)...
#632 [07:47] <Kus> and it turns out an error... Failed to load file ...level.dat
#633 [07:47] <Kus> region file offset table points to sector 1090 (past the end of the file)
#634 [07:47] <Kus> you got any ideas?
#635 [07:48] <Kus> any one here?
#636 [07:48] <khonji> i dont think so
#637 [07:48] <khonji> and i am a n00b so cant help sorry
#638 [07:49] <khonji> but could it because of the update ? MCedit is a mod right ?
#639 [07:50] <NotiCon> its a tool
#640 [07:52] <Kus> NotiCon... you know anything about it?
#641 [07:54] <NotiCon> only that it is a tool used to modifi your world
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#651 [08:08] <Warten> hi
#652 [08:08] <Warten> i need help
#653 [08:08] <Warten> ಠ_ಠ
#654 [08:08] <khonji> what kind of help ?
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#656 [08:10] <warten> I need help please :(
#657 [08:10] <khonji> ?
#658 [08:10] <warten> When i connect server says : User Not Premium
#659 [08:11] <warten> why ?
#660 [08:11] <warten> caN YOU HELP ME ?
#661 [08:12] <warten> please
#662 [08:12] <warten> HELP :(
#663 [08:12] <khonji> all server or some ?
#664 [08:13] <warten> i dont know
#665 [08:13] <warten> give me IP for some
#666 [08:13] <warten> sincraft.servegame.org i will say
#667 [08:13] <warten> or .net or .com
#668 [08:14] <warten> can you help me ?
#669 [08:14] <khonji> tc.grum.nl
#670 [08:15] <warten> its IP ?
#671 [08:15] <khonji> yeah put it in the join multiplayer
#672 [08:15] <khonji> see if you can connect
#673 [08:15] <warten> yes still says User not premium
#674 [08:16] <khonji> my best guess is that you didnt pay for the account
#675 [08:16] <khonji> but you did right ?
#676 [08:16] <warten> i have minecraft 1.4 beta
#677 [08:17] <khonji> were you able to connect before ?
#678 [08:18] <warten> what ?
#679 [08:18] <warten> 3NO
#680 [08:18] <warten> 3NO
#681 [08:19] <khonji> this is the first time you try to play online ?
#682 [08:19] <khonji> because from what i read it might be one of two issues
#683 [08:19] <khonji> 1 - payment issue
#684 [08:19] <khonji> 2 - mod issue
#685 [08:20] <warten> stupid server..
#686 [08:20] <warten> can you have any servers
#687 [08:21] <khonji> http://mcserverlist.net/
#688 [08:21] <khonji> use the filters
#689 [08:22] <khonji> but i dont see the point if your account is having the issue
#690 [08:22] <khonji> make sure that you received the payment acknowledgement in your e-mail if not then your account is not active
#691 [08:22] <warten> i recive email
#692 [08:22] <warten> wait
#693 [08:23] <warten> Dear warten, Thanks for registering at SIN Craft! We are glad you have chosen to be a part of our community and we hope you enjoy your stay. All the best, SIN Craft
#694 [08:24] <khonji> no this is only registration
#695 [08:24] <khonji> you need to pay for the account
#696 [08:25] <khonji> create an account in http://www.minecraft.net
#697 [08:25] <khonji> then buy your account access here http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
#698 [08:27] <warten> you buy acc ?
#699 [08:27] <khonji> yes
#700 [08:27] <khonji> its not free :)
#701 [08:27] <warten> i have free i Looking for Hamachi servers
#702 [08:28] <[z]> s/(free|hamachi)/pirate
#703 [08:28] <khonji> oh
#704 [08:28] <khonji> i didnt know that
#705 [08:28] <khonji> this is official minecraft channel ! lol
#706 [08:28] <khonji> and i was trying to help the guy out !
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#714 [08:39] <mib_1rnjp1> Hello
#715 [08:39] <mib_1rnjp1> I need some help
#716 [08:39] <mib_1rnjp1> I cant join on my mates server, its just bad login and end of stream, what should i do ?
#717 [08:40] <mib_qxdu3u> Xales
#718 [08:40] <mib_qxdu3u> are you there
#719 [08:41] <mib_qxdu3u> Fogwraith
#720 [08:41] <fogWraith> yes?
#721 [08:41] <mib_qxdu3u> kan du hjälpa han
#722 [08:41] <mib_qxdu3u> ??
#723 [08:41] <mib_qxdu3u> han är swe
#724 [08:41] <fogWraith> vem?
#725 [08:41] <mib_1rnjp1> Du hjälpte min andra kompis
#726 [08:41] <mib_1rnjp1> mig
#727 [08:41] <fogWraith> ah
#728 [08:41] <mib_1rnjp1> Du hjälpte jonte :)
#729 [08:41] <fogWraith> ahaaa, okaj ;)
#730 [08:42] <mib_1rnjp1> Jag kan inte komma in på servern jag får bara bad login, och end of stream
#731 [08:42] <mib_1rnjp1> men jag var inne på den för 1-2 timmar sedan
#732 [08:42] <mib_1rnjp1> :s
#733 [08:42] <fogWraith> går det att komma in på andra servrar?
#734 [08:42] <fogWraith> prova 217.211.17.244
#735 [08:42] <mib_1rnjp1> okej
#736 [08:42] <mib_1rnjp1> Bad login
#737 [08:43] <mib_1rnjp1> :/
#738 [08:43] <fogWraith> stängt av klienten, provat logga in på nytt?
#739 [08:43] <mib_1rnjp1> aa
#740 [08:43] <fogWraith> hum hum
#741 [08:44] <fogWraith> gamla eller nya launchern? inte för att det ska spela någon roll
#742 [08:44] <mib_1rnjp1> Ingen aning :S
#743 [08:44] <mib_1rnjp1> Köpte det typ nyss
#744 [08:44] <mib_1rnjp1> för 2 timmar sedan
#745 [08:45] <fogWraith> okej, vi testar ta bort all gammal data då
#746 [08:45] <fogWraith> tryck windowsknappen + r
#747 [08:45] <fogWraith> skriv in %appdata%
#748 [08:46] <fogWraith> radera hela .minecraft mappen
#749 [08:46] <fogWraith> starta sen om klienten
#750 [08:46] <mib_qxdu3u> han var in på servern en stund sen gick han brb sen när han skulle testa då funkade de inte
#751 [08:46] <fogWraith> ;/
#752 [08:46] <fogWraith> kan vara uppkopplingen också
#753 [08:47] <mib_qxdu3u> ja :D
#754 [08:47] <mib_qxdu3u> men andra kan komma in på servern
#755 [08:47] <fogWraith> ja, men hans uppkoppling :P
#756 [08:47] <mib_qxdu3u> jaha :D
#757 [08:47] <mib_qxdu3u> han laggade ur
#758 [08:47] <mib_qxdu3u> han kommer strax
#759 [08:48] <fogWraith> han kan behöva starta om modem / router :P
#760 [08:48] <fogWraith> se till att inget laggar datorn och uppkopplingen, typ torrents
#761 [08:49] <mib_qxdu3u> ok
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#763 [08:51] <frogmella> Fogwraith
#764 [08:51] <frogmella> Det funkar ej :/
#765 [08:51] <frogmella> Jag porvade appdata
#766 [08:52] <frogmella> provade*
#767 [08:52] <fogWraith> okej ;/
#768 [08:52] <frogmella> Vill du prova kanske ?
#769 [08:52] <fogWraith> visst
#770 [08:52] <frogmella> Att styra datorn asså ^^
#771 [08:52] <fogWraith> har du teamviewer?
#772 [08:52] <frogmella> nope :/
#773 [08:52] <fogWraith> www.teamviewer.com
#774 [08:53] <bread> omgwut
#775 [08:53] <frogmella> Ladda ner eller ?
#776 [08:53] <fogWraith> jao
#777 [08:53] <fogWraith> du behöver inte installera det ens, bara köra
#778 [08:54] <bread> Jag känner en bot
#779 [08:54] <bread> hon heter Anna
#780 [08:54] <fogWraith> sup bread :P
#781 [08:54] <bread> 8D
#782 [08:54] <frogmella> Huh ?
#783 [08:54] <frogmella> Bara k ?
#784 [08:54] <fogWraith> jao, du får välja köra eller installera
#785 [08:54] <fogWraith> välj kör
#786 [08:54] <frogmella> okej
#787 [08:54] <frogmella> nudå
#788 [08:55] <frogmella> Partner ID ?
#789 [08:55] <fogWraith> du ska få ett id och ett 4 eller 5siffrigt lösen
#790 [08:55] <fogWraith> skicka lösen i ett pm till mig
#791 [08:55] <frogmella> Och ipn ?
#792 [08:55] <fogWraith> och id't ja
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#799 [09:39] <Kus> anyone here knows a thing or two about MCEdit?
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#804 [10:07] <Eskah> can anyone spare a sec for an external connection on my new server setup please?
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#807 [10:14] <tdreyer1> lol, I just tried to check the rules at http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html
#808 [10:14] <tdreyer1> but it's down D:
#809 [10:14] <tdreyer1> So, is anyone around to help with a Linux/minecraft problem?
#810 [10:15] <Kus> not me... you know anything about MCEdit?
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#812 [10:15] <tdreyer1> Nope, sorry :(
#813 [10:16] <kinski> hey all, some water-engineering fans active right now :D ?
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#816 [10:17] <FlameTai1> Hey guys I have a bit of a problem, I have a minecraft server up, but whenever I try to connect to it I get timed out?
#817 [10:18] <kinski> check ports
#818 [10:18] <FlameTai1> Anyone know a fix? I'm running Linux
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#820 [10:18] <kinski> ah
#821 [10:18] <FlameTai1> Kinski: Ports are open and it won't even work by using localhost
#822 [10:18] <kinski> did it ever work for you ?
#823 [10:19] <FlameTai1> Nope, just got Linux lol
#824 [10:19] <kinski> derp
#825 [10:19] <FlameTai1> Not my first time using it though.
#826 [10:19] <kinski> sry im not used to linux
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#828 [10:19] <AMSmith42> What is the URL to connect to a private server?
#829 [10:20] <kinski> try 127.0.0.1 when its running on your local network
#830 [10:21] <AMSmith42> Neither that nor localip:port work.
#831 [10:21] <AMSmith42> Wouldn't it have to be initiated on minecraft.net?
#832 [10:21] <FlameTai1> AMSmith42: Are you running Linux too?
#833 [10:21] <AMSmith42> Yes.
#834 [10:21] <FlameTai1> Ah so we're both in the same boat?
#835 [10:21] <kinski> u are now married
#836 [10:21] <FlameTai1> lol
#837 [10:21] <AMSmith42> lol
#838 [10:22] <FlameTai1> Did Minecraft give you hassle trying to even get it to load?
#839 [10:22] <FlameTai1> Like when it asked you to download the files?
#840 [10:22] <AMSmith42> I can make it public and it puts it in the list. I can connect to it that way just fine.
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#842 [10:22] <AMSmith42> No, I didn't have a problem "installing" and running it.
#843 [10:23] <AMSmith42> I'm using Ubuntu/Mint Linux.
#844 [10:23] <FlameTai1> Same.
#845 [10:24] <AMSmith42> All of the instructions in the readme.txt seem to work except for the URL.
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#847 [10:25] <FlameTai1> There's a readme? LOL
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#849 [10:25] <FlameTai1> I just got the minecraft_server.jar file and minecraft.jar file
#850 [10:26] <AMSmith42> hehehe
#851 [10:26] <AMSmith42> I don't have a minecraft.jar.
#852 [10:27] <AMSmith42> Only minecraft-server.jar
#853 [10:29] <AMSmith42> Does the "You can't connect to the server via this URL anymore!" message mean they stopped using this method?
#854 [10:29] <AMSmith42> And didn't set up a new method?
#855 [10:30] <FlameTai1> Not that I know of o-o
#856 [10:30] <FlameTai1> I get a time out error xD
#857 [10:32] <AMSmith42> Oh, weird.
#858 [10:33] <AMSmith42> What URL are you using?
#859 [10:33] <kinski> check your firewall and your ports again
#860 [10:33] <FlameTai1> I've tried using localhost and my LAN IP
#861 [10:33] <kinski> is it working via the website ?
#862 [10:33] <kinski> TCP 25565
#863 [10:34] <AMSmith42> It works via the website. I put my LAN IP in the DMZ and opened 25565 on the local firewall.
#864 [10:34] <kinski> so even the 127.0.0.1 IP wont work ?
#865 [10:34] <AMSmith42> Correct.
#866 [10:35] <kinski> is java up to date ?
#867 [10:35] <AMSmith42> 127.0.0.1:25565 was unsuccessful as well.
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#869 [10:35] <kinski> try without port
#870 [10:35] <AMSmith42> As far as I know. I keep this machine updated regularly.
#871 [10:35] <AMSmith42> I did try without a port.
#872 [10:35] <kinski> ok
#873 [10:35] <NotiCon> you are running the server and the client on the same machine?
#874 [10:36] <AMSmith42> Yes, trying to run the client and the server on the same machine.
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#876 [10:36] <AMSmith42> Do I need minecraft.jar?
#877 [10:36] <NotiCon> and the server is running when you try to connect?
#878 [10:36] <NotiCon> minecraft.jar is the client
#879 [10:36] <NotiCon> minecraft-server.jar is the server
#880 [10:36] <NotiCon> unless you have the minecraft.exe
#881 [10:37] <AMSmith42> OK.
#882 [10:37] <AMSmith42> Yes, the server is running.
#883 [10:37] <AMSmith42> Let me make sure Java is up-to-date.
#884 [10:38] <AMSmith42> Yes, Java is up-to-date.
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#886 [10:38] <AMSmith42> I can make the server public and it shows up in the server list on minecraft.net.
#887 [10:38] <AMSmith42> I can also connect to it.
#888 [10:39] <AMSmith42> And play for extended periods without issue.
#889 [10:39] <NotiCon> but you cant connect to it local?
#890 [10:39] <AMSmith42> Correct.
#891 [10:39] <AMSmith42> That is my only issue.
#892 [10:41] <AMSmith42> The only things I did to setup the server was to extract the .zip into a folder, modify server.properties and run the server via the command line.
#893 [10:41] <NotiCon> odd
#894 [10:41] <AMSmith42> Well, and put my lan ip in the dmz and open 25565 on the local firewall.
#895 [10:42] <NotiCon> and then you run the minecraft.jar/exe file aswell on the same machine and login and press multiplayer and type in 127.0.0.1?
#896 [10:43] <AMSmith42> No. I was trying to use the URL given in the readme.txt file: http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=<YOUR IP>&port=<SERVER PORT>
#897 [10:43] <AMSmith42> Let me trying running that.
#898 [10:46] <AMSmith42> Where do I type 127.0.0.1?
#899 [10:47] <AMSmith42> If I simply run minecraft.jar, all I get is a login.
#900 [10:48] <AMSmith42> If I login, I assume I am logging into minecraft.net
#901 [10:48] <kinski> u do
#902 [10:48] <AMSmith42> I'll try running it from the command line.
#903 [10:48] <kinski> connect to a auth server
#904 [10:48] <kinski> then login, then press multiplayer and type in "127.0.0.1!
#905 [10:49] <AMSmith42> I'm not a premium member.
#906 [10:49] <AMSmith42> I'm just doing the free one.
#907 [10:50] <kinski> well, the first time i played minecraft was premium, are u sure u can host an classic server ?
#908 [10:50] <kinski> free ?
#909 [10:50] <kinski> idk
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#911 [10:51] <AMSmith42> Yes, one is able to host a classic server, but it looks like perhaps they've shutdown private serving.
#912 [10:54] <kinski> well. i couldnt imagine playing only classic
#913 [10:54] <kinski> for me, theres just smp :D
#914 [10:54] * FlameTai1 sighs
#914 [10:54] <FlameTai1> Every time I try to connect to my server I receive [INFO] /192.168.2.2:48565 lost connection
#915 [10:54] <FlameTai1> And my minecraft gives me the time out -.-||
#916 [10:55] <kinski> i heared about that relating build in realtek network adapters
#917 [10:55] <kinski> i dont know if that was an old bug though
#918 [10:55] <FlameTai1> Really?
#919 [10:56] <FlameTai1> Hmmm.... Maybe I should remove my hard wire connection
#920 [10:56] <kinski> i have a build-in realtek card and everything is perfectly fine, so i dont know if thats a valid bug
#921 [10:56] <FlameTai1> And use my wireless and see if that fixes it
#922 [10:56] <FlameTai1> brb
#923 [10:56] <kinski> well when u are able to do so in just a bit
#924 [10:56] <kinski> its worth a try
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#927 [10:59] <FlameTai1_> K
#928 [10:59] <FlameTai1_> Lets see if this fixes it.
#929 [11:02] <FlameTai1_> I get Failed to connect to the server java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host
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#931 [11:02] <FlameTai1_> any idea kinski?
#932 [11:03] <kinski> do u still host on the same machine ?
#933 [11:03] <FlameTai1_> Yes?
#934 [11:04] <kinski> i dont have any idea
#935 [11:04] <kinski> but "no route to host" sounds obvious
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#939 [11:05] <Floris> on mac/linux you can do ifconfig to find out what the eth0's ip is set/binded too, you can enter that. on windows its probably called something else.
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#943 [11:08] <oldtopman> Floris: ipconfig in win$
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#947 [11:11] <Kashi> Heyho ... i've a question. Is it possible to have fullbright lighting in minecraft? Allready searched a lot by myself without solving my problem.
#948 [11:11] <Kashi> just graphically
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#950 [11:14] <oldtopman> Kashi: Fullbright lighting??
#951 [11:14] <Kashi> well ... kinda like disabled lighting
#952 [11:16] <luckz> !paid u
#953 [11:16] <luckz> !paid sleepwalker
#954 [11:16] <luckz> AuBot: TALK TO ME
#955 [11:16] <luckz> !paid sleepwalker
#956 [11:16] <AMSmith42> OK, well, I'm not able to solve my hosting a private classic server issue at the moment. I will try again later. Thanks for your help. See you around.
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#958 [11:22] <Kus> does any one here know how to use MCEdit... it does not work for me :/
#959 [11:24] <Morrolan> Kus: If you get an error you might want to ask in its forumthread.
#960 [11:25] <Kus> i already did... just wanna do it fast... got nothing to do :D
#961 [11:25] <Morrolan> What exactly doesn't work then?
#962 [11:26] <Kus> when i try to open a map this is what i get: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/878973/MCEdit.png
#963 [11:27] <Morrolan> No idea what could cause this, sorry.
#964 [11:27] <kinski> is there a channel for game mechanics ?
#965 [11:28] <Morrolan> Kinski: Like what exactly? Things like farming and so?
#966 [11:28] <Morrolan> Or more like water physics?
#967 [11:28] <kinski> nope, like some mechanics who go a little deeper
#968 [11:29] <kinski> i need watergates and redstone circuits
#969 [11:29] <kinski> but i dont want any mods
#970 [11:29] <Morrolan> Well, you could always try asking here or in #Minecraft . Don't think there's a channel dedicated to game mechanics though.
#971 [11:29] <kinski> ok didnt knew if thats the right place
#972 [11:29] <kinski> anybody heard about a watergate ?
#973 [11:29] <kinski> fully automated ?
#974 [11:30] <Kus> noup...
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#976 [11:31] <kinski> i know there are mods but there has to be something else
#977 [11:31] <Kus> the only liquid mechanics I know I used here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48B6AzOcLS8 :D
#978 [11:31] <Kus> had to point out my vid :D
#979 [11:32] <kinski> is that yours ?
#980 [11:32] <Kus> yep
#981 [11:32] <kinski> very nice, i got the same lavathings, but not automated yet
#982 [11:32] <Kus> it is not fully auto :/
#983 [11:33] <kinski> we are building with 3 friends, and we got a meat factory and a fully automated trainstation
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#985 [11:33] <kinski> where u can pull a lever for a direction and then "call" a minecart which will take u away :D
#986 [11:33] <kinski> but very nice mechanic ^^
#987 [11:33] <kinski> i could use that :D
#988 [11:34] <kinski> ah i see, sand glitch
#989 [11:34] <MasterHD> kann hier jemand Deutsch?
#990 [11:34] <MasterHD> Wenn ja kann mir bitte jmdn mit Plugins installieren auf nen Hamachiserver helfen?
#991 [11:34] <MasterHD> Bitte bei Skype (masterhd1) hinzufügen und ich mach dann Bildschirmfreigabe.
#992 [11:34] <kinski> im jealeous kus :)
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#994 [11:38] <kinski> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER kinski jgbbprogfcme
#995 [11:38] <kinski> nearly :D
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#997 [11:46] <QuitN> any1 got a public mc server, with active people on?
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#1003 [12:02] <peeves> hello ä
#1004 [12:02] <peeves> hello
#1005 [12:03] <peeves> can anybody help me
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#1009 [12:25] <Thoatt> No one's messaged me or hilighted me in two days? http://i.imgur.com/kilAq.jpg
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#1011 [12:29] <Jochen> hi all
#1012 [12:30] <Jochen> i need help
#1013 [12:30] <Kus> what kind
#1014 [12:30] <Jochen> ok i want to run my dedicated root server with more than 30 players
#1015 [12:30] <Jochen> is it caped to 32?
#1016 [12:30] <Thoatt> So set it... higher? lol
#1017 [12:31] <Thoatt> No
#1018 [12:31] <Thoatt> Vanilla is not capped.
#1019 [12:31] <Jochen> Vanilla
#1020 [12:31] <Jochen> ?
#1021 [12:31] <Thoatt> Yes.. vanilla.
#1022 [12:31] <Thoatt> ?? vanilla
#1023 [12:31] <VoxelHead> vanilla: vanilla (adj.): Bland; original; with no garnish. In the context of Minecraft, a server or client with no mods, skins, texture packs, or other customizations.
#1024 [12:32] <Jochen> ok a loaded down from the weppage so i gues i have the not modded one right?
#1025 [12:33] <Thoatt> what 'webpage'? minecraft.net?
#1026 [12:33] <Jochen> yes
#1027 [12:33] <Thoatt> The one on minecraft.net is the vanilla sever.
#1028 [12:33] <Jochen> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1029 [12:33] <Thoatt> That is the vanilla server.
#1030 [12:33] <Thoatt> there is no player cap.
#1031 [12:34] <Jochen> ok thanks so far but...
#1032 [12:34] <Thoatt> Look in the server.properties and change the connection limit
#1033 [12:34] <Thoatt> max-players=20
#1034 [12:34] <Jochen> is there a master server list ive seen one but it seams to be the list of the old free version right?
#1035 [12:34] <Thoatt> change that line
#1036 [12:34] <Thoatt> ?? smp/servers
#1037 [12:34] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1038 [12:35] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1039 [12:35] <Jochen> thank you very mutch guy this was way faster as google
#1040 [12:35] <Thoatt> :)
#1041 [12:39] <Jochen> can you tell me a good admin plugin/mod ?
#1042 [12:39] <Thoatt> ?? smp/mods
#1043 [12:40] <Thoatt> vox... useless lol
#1044 [12:40] <Jochen> i tried zecore or somthing like that and it used ram as hell
#1045 [12:40] <Jochen> smp
#1046 [12:40] <Thoatt> Uhh... we don't really deal with mods here. You can try #bukkit though
#1047 [12:41] <Jochen> mhh. lets see what it dose. i dont want to change somting on the game just protect the server from destroyng guys
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#1054 [12:52] <David> hey
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#1066 [13:23] <thefonz> awsome new site for free live sports and tv and ufc freethetv.net
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#1075 [13:46] <Chris64> hi all
#1076 [13:47] <TheHuntedPie> I got a small problem: I join a server and chunks load for 2 mins. and then they suddenly stop loading
#1077 [13:47] <TheHuntedPie> hey Chris64
#1078 [13:47] <Chris64> do you know how to start minecraft directly from commandline without minecraft.exe?
#1079 [13:47] <Chris64> javaw -server -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar << fails
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#1081 [13:49] <Bstylz31> hey
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#1083 [13:50] <TheHuntedPie> no sorry maybe if u paste ur exact error someone can help u
#1084 [13:50] <Chris64> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from C:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#1085 [13:50] <Bstylz31> I just have a simple question may you can help me i want to start an multiplayer server ive already searched a lot but i cant decide which provider should i use? do you know a good and cheap one thanks a lot if you can help me :)
#1086 [13:51] <Chris64> TheHuntedPie: any idea?
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#1091 [14:09] <frewpp> Hey guys. I'm playing Minecraft for the first time after watching a few videos on Youtube, and I can't figure out how to place a block.
#1092 [14:09] <frewpp> Whenever I left click, it breaks a block instead of placing one.
#1093 [14:09] <frewpp> (I'm playing multiplayer Minecraft Classic)
#1094 [14:10] <Chris64> tried right click?
#1095 [14:10] <frewpp> Oh wow
#1096 [14:11] <frewpp> Thanks
#1097 [14:14] <frewpp> Another question (there's no easily accessible FAQ): Whats the difference between the free and paid version of Minecraft, if I only want to play single player?
#1098 [14:14] <Chris64> np :)
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#1100 [14:15] <FlameTai1> Any around that can help me? -.-||
#1101 [14:15] <Chris64> I've never played classic but i think you have a lot more blocks, mobs (animals) etc
#1102 [14:15] <Chris64> have to go now
#1103 [14:15] <Chris64> cya
#1104 [14:16] <frewpp> Okay thanks
#1105 [14:16] <frewpp> Cya
#1106 [14:17] <tdreyer1> FlameTai1: it might help is you give a detail or two ^_^
#1107 [14:17] <FlameTai1> tdreyer1: When ever I give a detail or two no one replies LOL
#1108 [14:17] <FlameTai1> I've been on here like 7 times already and no one talks.
#1109 [14:18] <tdreyer1> Just gotta keep trying :D
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#1111 [14:18] <tdreyer1> I'm hanging around trying to find someone to help me with my linux/minecraft freezing problem
#1112 [14:18] <tdreyer1> In fact
#1113 [14:18] <FlameTai1> lol.
#1114 [14:18] <tdreyer1> In the time I've been waiting, I wrote a bash script to workaround the problem until I can get a real fix!
#1115 [14:19] <FlameTai1> Hmmm
#1116 [14:19] <FlameTai1> Well maybe you could help me out?
#1117 [14:19] <FlameTai1> Do you have a server running on Linux?
#1118 [14:19] <tdreyer1> No server experience, sorry
#1119 [14:19] <tdreyer1> Mine's client related
#1120 [14:19] <tdreyer1> :
#1121 [14:19] <tdreyer1> :(
#1122 [14:19] <FlameTai1> I'm beginning to wonder if mine is -.-||
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#1125 [14:20] <mang0> !haspaid mang0
#1126 [14:20] <mang0> !paid mang0
#1127 [14:20] <FlameTai1> o=
#1128 [14:20] <FlameTai1> SHAME ON YOU mang0!
#1129 [14:20] <tdreyer1> lol
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#1134 [14:34] <frewpp> !paid
#1135 [14:34] <frewpp> !paid Frewpp
#1136 [14:35] <frewpp> !paid Steven
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#1140 [14:45] <Liraxus> Hey, im wondering what folder holds the water animation
#1141 [14:45] <Pyromaniac> hello?
#1142 [14:45] <Liraxus> Im making a simplistic pack for people with bad video cards
#1143 [14:46] <Pyromaniac> anyone know how i register my nickname?
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#1147 [15:01] <aetherian> bread_brb: shoulda just bean bbrb
#1148 [15:02] <tfg> Hello
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#1150 [15:03] <tfg> I hear.. this is a place one can get a hand with a bug in minecraft?
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#1152 [15:05] <SnowyCloud> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#1153 [15:05] <SnowyCloud> #
#1154 [15:05] <SnowyCloud> # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb75f6fb6, pid=2108, tid=3003087728
#1155 [15:05] <SnowyCloud> #
#1156 [15:05] <SnowyCloud> # JRE version: 6.0_24-b07
#1157 [15:05] <SnowyCloud> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.1-b02 mixed mode, sharing linux-x86 )
#1158 [15:05] <SnowyCloud> # Problematic frame:
#1159 [15:05] <SnowyCloud> [20:05:26] <SnowyCloud> # Problematic frame:
#1160 [15:05] <SnowyCloud> [20:05:26] <SnowyCloud> # C [libc.so.6+0x75fb6]
#1161 [15:06] <SnowyCloud> how do I fix?
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#1166 [15:14] <atkent> hello
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#1168 [15:14] <atkent> hello
#1169 [15:15] <SnowyCloud> this channel is not HELPING.
#1170 [15:15] <SnowyCloud> HELP ME. :P
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#1172 [15:17] <FlameTai1> SnowyCloud: I know what you mean. It's kind of useless to have a "Support/Help" Channel if no one "helps". Same with the minecraftforums.net site.
#1173 [15:18] <SnowyCloud> Tell me about it.
#1174 [15:19] <FlameTai1> Been having this problem: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=276058&p=3861407#p3861407
#1175 [15:19] <FlameTai1> And no one has even bothered to reply other than one person.
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#1177 [15:21] <SnowyCloud> i have a feeling I'll get support from Ubuntu's channel, but I think it'll be like "LOL, ask Minecraft, not us"
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#1179 [15:22] <SnowyCloud> # Problematic frame:
#1180 [15:22] <SnowyCloud> # C [libc.so.6+0x75fb6]
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#1182 [15:23] <FlameTai1> SnowyCloud: I attempted to get help from them too but eeeeh I was like naaaah
#1183 [15:23] <FlameTai1> Cause I'm not using Ubuntu I'm on Mint
#1184 [15:23] <FlameTai1> lol
#1185 [15:25] <tdreyer1> Arch here
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#1187 [15:26] <tdreyer1> but different problem xD
#1188 [15:26] <FlameTai1> I haven't seen him chatting
#1189 [15:26] <yannik> hello
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#1191 [15:27] <yannik> i have a question, i joined a mp session for the first time, and tried to build something, so i thought i take some woo, but there were no trees, and i asked, and some guy said i should take a "magazine", so what is a magazine?
#1192 [15:28] <SnowyCloud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/592283/
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#1196 [15:32] <aetherian> huh
#1197 [15:32] <kinski> rehi
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#1199 [15:32] <aetherian> never seen ubuntu pastebin
#1200 [15:33] <aetherian> but pastebin>ubuntupastebin :)
#1201 [15:33] <aetherian> and hello kinski
#1202 [15:33] <kinski> http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9356/20110410205057.png my pig slaughting machine is finally ready
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#1204 [15:34] <kinski> i need some good advice regarding watergates. does anybody have something for me (not the mod)
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#1207 [15:40] <Liraxus> Hey, uh, i still have a problem
#1208 [15:40] <Liraxus> i don't know where the water animation is.
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#1210 [15:43] <Liraxus> :l
#1211 [15:44] * Sinnersaix moow
#1211 [15:44] <Liraxus> hey, you know what folder the water animation is in?
#1212 [15:45] <aetherian> Liraxus: is that it in particles?
#1213 [15:45] <aetherian> I can't quite see, because my image viewer blurs when I zoom in
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#1215 [15:45] <Liraxus> you know how the top of the water constantly changes
#1216 [15:45] <aetherian> look in particles .-.
#1217 [15:45] <Liraxus> I want to edit it so the animation is gone
#1218 [15:46] <Liraxus> my pack si for those with shitty video cards
#1219 [15:46] <aetherian> hang on, I'll open it in gimp
#1220 [15:46] <Liraxus> I use paint.net
#1221 [15:46] <aetherian> that's not water.
#1222 [15:47] <Liraxus> :l
#1223 [15:47] <Liraxus> I just need its animation image
#1224 [15:47] <Liraxus> How can paint.net not access it?
#1225 [15:48] <Liraxus> what folder is it in?
#1226 [15:49] <aetherian> jeez man
#1227 [15:50] <aetherian> have patience
#1228 [15:55] <aetherian> found it
#1229 [15:55] <aetherian> /terrain.jpg
#1230 [15:56] <Liraxus> terrain?
#1231 [15:56] <Liraxus> I already looked in their and edited it
#1232 [15:56] <Liraxus> wait a sec...maybe i didn't update
#1233 [15:57] <Liraxus> yeah...i updated it
#1234 [15:58] <aetherian> you see how there are the different water animations?
#1235 [16:01] <Liraxus> yes
#1236 [16:01] <Liraxus> in the .png terrain picture, i edited it.
#1237 [16:01] <Liraxus> And it didn't change
#1238 [16:01] <Liraxus> but the other textures of the terrain did.
#1239 [16:03] <aetherian> let me try editing mine (ie deleting parts)
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#1241 [16:04] <Torkie> elloo
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#1243 [16:06] <aetherian> hi
#1244 [16:09] <NicEXE> is there any server available for public?
#1245 [16:11] <Liraxus> Uh oh
#1246 [16:11] <Liraxus> guys, i have an error with the fur
#1247 [16:11] <Liraxus> where is the fur located in the terrain.png
#1248 [16:12] <Liraxus> i think i accidently deleted it
#1249 [16:13] <Torkie> Anyone know where to get minecraft 1.3_1?
#1250 [16:14] <Liraxus> nvm fixed it
#1251 [16:14] <Torkie> %rshelp
#1252 [16:16] <Liraxus> ok, im off
#1253 [16:16] <Liraxus> so how do i disconnect
#1254 [16:16] <Liraxus> I wanna go to a different chat
#1255 [16:16] <Liraxus> ya know what, screw it, i'll make a shortcut
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#1260 [16:36] <Revock09> would anyone be able to help me with payment issues?
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#1262 [16:40] <oldtopman> Revock09: Not quite, but we can give you advice on what to do.
#1263 [16:41] <Revock09> ok, im just trying to pay with a CC but its not really working. keeps saying too many sessions
#1264 [16:41] <tdreyer1> clear your cookies
#1265 [16:44] <Revock09> ok, and i get sent to a securesuit mirror, is that safe or? iv read its a phishing websight
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#1269 [16:56] <Oerg866> I think I messed up my keybindings
#1270 [16:56] <Oerg866> when i press I my inventory doesnt open
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#1272 [16:56] <lyude> I found an exploit in minecraft, but I'm not sure if anyone's found it yet
#1273 [16:57] <lyude> Because it just got used to grief my server yesterday
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#1276 [17:00] <Floris> worth reporting then lyude
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#1278 [17:01] <tdreyer1> care to share ^_^
#1279 [17:01] <May0> can anyone help me run the .exe?
#1280 [17:02] <lyude> YEah, sure
#1281 [17:03] <lyude> When you register a minecraft username on the server, it is case sensitive
#1282 [17:03] <lyude> Example: You can't register bob and Bob as seperate usernames
#1283 [17:03] <lyude> In the minecraft server software, this is not the case. You can have bob and Bob connected at the same time
#1284 [17:03] <lyude> Someone used this to grief my server as a different user
#1285 [17:03] <May0> i mean when i download the game
#1286 [17:03] <May0> i cant run it
#1287 [17:03] <May0> everything is updated
#1288 [17:04] <May0> i can play fine online
#1289 [17:04] <May0> it doesnt work in any compatibility mode
#1290 [17:04] <May0> i've tried using cmd and the jar
#1291 [17:07] <May0> anyone?
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#1417 [17:13] <lyude> *netsplit
#1418 [17:13] <gPad2002> Sexy, a huge netsplit
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#1420 [17:13] <HK6> Hey gPad2002 I tried wired connection and same problem.
#1421 [17:13] <gPad2002> Hrm
#1422 [17:13] <gPad2002> I had a weird problem myself earlier
#1423 [17:14] <gPad2002> I tried to play locally
#1424 [17:14] <gPad2002> But I still got network lag
#1425 [17:14] <gPad2002> And a hell of a lot of it
#1426 [17:14] <HK6> Yeah the problem just seems to be that part of the world for them loads then it just stops.
#1427 [17:15] <HK6> Also I can see them move and delete stuff but they do not see it deleting.
#1428 [17:15] <gPad2002> Hmm
#1429 [17:15] <gPad2002> Similar here
#1430 [17:15] <gPad2002> Strange
#1431 [17:15] <HK6> Then after a minute or two I just see them stop moving.
#1432 [17:15] <gPad2002> Yup
#1433 [17:17] <May0> can either of you help me run the downloaded version of the game?
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#1435 [17:17] <lyude> We can may0
#1436 [17:17] <lyude> If you provide us with more information
#1437 [17:17] <May0> i'd love to.
#1438 [17:17] <lyude> Saying "It doesn't run" doesn't tell us anything
#1439 [17:17] <lyude> Then could you? :P
#1440 [17:18] <May0> sure
#1441 [17:18] <May0> by it doesnt run, i mean nothing happens
#1442 [17:18] <lyude> So you double click it, and just nothing appears?
#1443 [17:18] <May0> correct
#1444 [17:18] <lyude> hm
#1445 [17:19] <lyude> Alright, what version of java do you have installed
#1446 [17:19] <May0> 1.6.0_24 i think is the version
#1447 [17:19] <lyude> o_O
#1448 [17:20] <May0> not a clue to see what version i have haha
#1449 [17:20] <xolotl> lyude: You're on Windows? Try running it from cmd.exe to see if you get more output
#1450 [17:20] <xolotl> er
#1451 [17:20] <xolotl> May0: I guess I should have directed that to you
#1452 [17:20] <lyude> Yeah :p... but 1.6 sounds old
#1453 [17:20] <xolotl> May0: To check your version, open "cmd.exe" and type "java -version"
#1454 [17:20] <lyude> Yeah, what xolotl said
#1455 [17:20] <xolotl> lyude: Nope, 1.6 is the most recent
#1456 [17:20] <lyude> oh
#1457 [17:20] <lyude> I thought it was 6.1
#1458 [17:20] <lyude> herp
#1459 [17:20] <May0> its 1.6.0_24
#1460 [17:20] <xolotl> lyude: Yeah, it's stupid
#1461 [17:21] <May0> lol
#1462 [17:21] <lyude> Ah, just ran java -version in bash, your right xD
#1463 [17:21] <xolotl> lyude: They call it interchangeably "Java 6" and 1.6. Like "Java 5" was 1.5
#1464 [17:21] <lyude> That makes no sense
#1465 [17:21] <xolotl> 'cause being clear about things would be bad. :)
#1466 [17:21] <lyude> Well it is java
#1467 [17:22] <HK6> So nobody have any solutions to my problem?
#1468 [17:22] <lyude> HK6, what was it
#1469 [17:22] <lyude> I forget :(
#1470 [17:22] <HK6> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=268088&p=3865321#p3865321
#1471 [17:22] <HK6> I tried the wired connection idea but still no beans.
#1472 [17:22] <xolotl> May0: Anyway, try running it from cmd.exe to see if you can get an actual error message
#1473 [17:22] <lyude> o_x
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#1475 [17:22] <lyude> That.. is weird
#1476 [17:22] <lyude> Any bug output?
#1477 [17:22] <xolotl> May0: You'll have to use "cd" or "chdir" to go into the dir with the .exe
#1478 [17:23] <HK6> Indeed.
#1479 [17:23] <lyude> hm...
#1480 [17:23] <May0> alright, sec
#1481 [17:23] <HK6> lyude: They get End of Stream and I get overflow.
#1482 [17:23] <lyude> Try running bukkit or something
#1483 [17:23] <HK6> What is bukkit?
#1484 [17:23] <lyude> Lemme put it this way, minecraft default server software sucks
#1485 [17:23] <lyude> Bukkit is a version that lets you install plugins
#1486 [17:23] <lyude> Like warp plugins, anti griefing plugins, etc.
#1487 [17:23] <HK6> Where might I find that?
#1488 [17:24] <xolotl> Installing Bukkit isn't gonna help anyone deal with connectivity issues, though
#1489 [17:24] <lyude> hm
#1490 [17:24] <xolotl> If you're having problems getting people connected, etc, then it's better by far to just stick with the vanilla software
#1491 [17:24] <lyude> It might be his router
#1492 [17:24] <lyude> Your right xD, I'm not thinking right now
#1493 [17:24] <May0> xolotl: what's the command to run in cmd?
#1494 [17:24] <lyude> Just never heard of that happening before
#1495 [17:24] <xolotl> May0: If you're in the directory with the EXE, just type the name of the EXE
#1496 [17:24] <May0> im in the directory
#1497 [17:24] <xolotl> May0: Tab-completion probably works, so you can probably just do "mine<tab>"
#1498 [17:25] <HK6> lyude: I have a modem/router all-in-one.
#1499 [17:25] <HK6> SMC brand.
#1500 [17:25] <lyude> ewwww
#1501 [17:25] <lyude> All-in-ones are bad... most times
#1502 [17:25] <lyude> Never used that though
#1503 [17:25] <lyude> So I can't judge it
#1504 [17:26] <May0> i tried just typing it, and nothing happened
#1505 [17:26] <May0> and i don't know anything about tab-completion
#1506 [17:26] <HK6> lyude: I have never had any connection problems with online games before.
#1507 [17:26] <HK6> Just seems to be Minecraft server software that is having problems.
#1508 [17:26] <xolotl> May0: No errors at all? Take a screenshot of the DOS window and post it to imgur.com
#1509 [17:28] <May0> http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7351/captureggc.png
#1510 [17:29] <xolotl> May0: Hm, odd indeed
#1511 [17:29] <xolotl> May0: Try downloading the .jar version from minecraft.net and run the java command they list there
#1512 [17:29] <May0> i did
#1513 [17:29] <lyude> Have you hosted a server befoore though HK6
#1514 [17:29] <HK6> lyude: No sir.
#1515 [17:29] <xolotl> May0: It'll be under the "Linux/Other" section but it should work in Windows too
#1516 [17:29] <lyude> Yeah...
#1517 [17:29] <xolotl> May0: Okay, what's the output when you try running that?
#1518 [17:29] <lyude> I would try on a different router
#1519 [17:30] <May0> sec lol
#1520 [17:30] <HK6> lyude: Would connecting another router to my modem/router work?
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#1522 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> May0 - How much RAM do you have on your computer?
#1523 [17:31] <May0> 6 gb
#1524 [17:32] <May0> xolotl: http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7848/capture2sn.png
#1525 [17:32] <xolotl> May0: Huh, that's quite odd
#1526 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see the problem
#1527 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Custom theme for windows
#1528 [17:33] <May0> thank god
#1529 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Turn it back to basic/default
#1530 [17:33] <May0> d'aww
#1531 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft will launch then
#1532 [17:33] <May0> alright, sec
#1533 [17:33] <lyude> All-in-one stuff for that
#1534 [17:33] <lyude> Usually tends to be crap
#1535 [17:33] <xolotl> Ah, you Windows people and your themes. :)
#1536 [17:33] <xolotl> Odd that it'd get in the way
#1537 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Been a problem since I've been here
#1538 [17:33] <xolotl> I'd call that a Java bug, personally
#1539 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> I don't think java/lwjgl likes it
#1540 [17:34] <lyude> I call java a bug
#1541 [17:34] <May0> should i try the exe, or the jar method?
#1542 [17:34] <xolotl> Yeah, it's something in com.sun.java throwing it, so I'd call it Sun's/Oracle's fault
#1543 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Either
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#1545 [17:34] <lyude> Everything evil in the world
#1546 [17:34] <xolotl> May0: Yeah, as GreyVulpine said, probably either would work, if that was the problem
#1547 [17:34] <lyude> Spawns from the mouth of oracle
#1548 [17:34] <lyude> Also, sun is no more
#1549 [17:34] <lyude> Oracle bought sun and trolled open source
#1550 [17:34] <May0> damn
#1551 [17:34] <May0> it works
#1552 [17:34] * GreyVulpine nods
#1552 [17:35] <May0> thanks
#1553 [17:35] <xolotl> lyude: Yeah, though I wouldn't necessarily credit Oracle with a bug like that, since it was probably Sun's doing. :)
#1554 [17:35] <May0> gonna miss my theme though
#1555 [17:35] <lyude> Nah
#1556 [17:35] <HK6> @GreyVulpine: Any way you can help me with my server issues? :P
#1557 [17:35] <lyude> Oracle took down OpenSolaris
#1558 [17:35] <lyude> Or rather, made it a lot less 'open'
#1559 [17:35] <xolotl> lyude: Yeah, I'm not trying to *defend* Oracle here. :)
#1560 [17:35] <May0> I appreciate it guys, been at this for months now lol
#1561 [17:35] <lyude> :P
#1562 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> HK6 - What issues?
#1563 [17:36] <HK6> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=268088&p=3865321#p3865321
#1564 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Sec then.. reading
#1565 [17:37] <lyude> hey grey
#1566 [17:38] <captain-obvious> hello? anyone able to help me sort out some connection issues?
#1567 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah lyude?
#1568 [17:38] <lyude> Just saying hi
#1569 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> HK6 - Question for you, do you know the brand of your NIC?
#1570 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Oh, hi.
#1571 [17:39] <HK6> I was using a D-Link wireless N wifi adapter but now I am running it wired.
#1572 [17:39] <HK6> Let me check real quick.
#1573 [17:40] <HK6> Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
#1574 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> No third party firewalls besides windows firewall?
#1575 [17:41] <HK6> CA Security but I tried disabling it to no avail.
#1576 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1577 [17:42] <HK6> I disabled the firewall in it as well as my router firewall and it changed nothing.
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#1579 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
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#1581 [17:45] <HK6> Just tried disabling all 3 firewalls I have (router, windows, CA security) at the same time and still the same problem.
#1582 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Nothing jumps out at me here...
#1583 [17:49] <HK6> I am running off an irregular port but I have port forwarding set up properly.
#1584 [17:51] <HK6> Just tried the .jar again on the wired connection and same problem.
#1585 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Could you try turning off monsters/animals in your server.properties?
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#1588 [17:57] <HK6> Yes I can.
#1589 [17:58] <HK6> Going to test it now.
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#1591 [18:03] <lyude> Does minecraft have trouble with multiplayer on dmz
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#1593 [18:04] <HK6> @GreyVulpine: Nope. Same problem.
#1594 [18:04] <nimble> is there any way to change the email your minecraft account is linked to?
#1595 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> nimble - No, but you can try emailing Mojang.
#1596 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> support@mojang.com
#1597 [18:05] <captain-obvious> have anyone here encountered the issue where its impossbile to log in with the client?
#1598 [18:05] <TheNytangel> no
#1599 [18:05] <TheNytangel> :)
#1600 [18:05] <TheNytangel> im so helpful
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#1602 [18:07] <HK6> @GreyVulpine: Any other properties I should try changing?
#1603 [18:07] <nimble> a code that was bought pre beta still activates an alpha account right even if activated after switch to beta?
#1604 [18:07] <xolotl> nimble: Correct
#1605 [18:07] <captain-obvious> the web client works perfectly
#1606 [18:07] <captain-obvious> but not the .exe
#1607 [18:07] <HK6> @GreyVulpine: If it will help I can add you to the white-list and let you connect so you can see the problem.
#1608 [18:08] <nimble> and final question: what exactly is the difference between alpha and beta accounts instead of price? :)
#1609 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> HK6 - I don't know, there's not much else you can do. You can expect that the server's netcode does cause quite a bit of problems
#1610 [18:08] <xolotl> nimble: Not much; Beta accounts *might* have to pay for hypothetical future expansions or DLC
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#1612 [18:08] <xolotl> nimble: Whereas Alpha accounts have been promised those for free
#1613 [18:08] <xolotl> nimble: Personally I'm guessing that Beta will get them for free too (if they ever end up existing), but time will tell
#1614 [18:08] <lyude> wait
#1615 [18:08] <lyude> DLC
#1616 [18:09] <lyude> Please, no
#1617 [18:09] <HK6> I will be back soon.
#1618 [18:09] <xolotl> lyude: Purely hypothetical at this point
#1619 [18:09] <nimble> I heard he promised free updates, but wasn't sure if that covers LDC
#1620 [18:09] <nimble> DLC*
#1621 [18:09] <lyude> phew
#1622 [18:09] <lyude> You scared me
#1623 [18:09] <xolotl> lyude: Basically it was just the "you will get free updates forever" clause which got removed with Beta
#1624 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Free bug fixes and updates till the final release, yes
#1625 [18:09] <lyude> I'm not paying for updates <<
#1626 [18:09] <xolotl> lyude: On account of the laywers telling Notch that was a batshit insane thing to have in your TOS. :)
#1627 [18:09] <nimble> am kinda thinking notch may go down the DLC route :p
#1628 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> But expansions beyond the final release are what is in contention.
#1629 [18:09] <lyude> Then they're stupid
#1630 [18:10] <lyude> What am i supposed to do, pay every time for an update for my users?
#1631 [18:10] <xolotl> lyude: Again, everything's very hypothetical at this point, and a very long ways off
#1632 [18:10] <lyude> ah
#1633 [18:10] <lyude> I hope this never happens <<
#1634 [18:11] <nimble> the sensible thing would be that he releases updates to the game post-release, but release special optional dlc for people to buy
#1635 [18:11] <xolotl> nimble: Right; if it does happen then that's how I'd guess it would happen
#1636 [18:11] <nimble> it'll make sense in a business pov
#1637 [18:11] <xolotl> But again, IMO the thing was only taken out at the behest of lawyers. I'm predicting that everyone'll get everything for free, just like Alpha users.
#1638 [18:12] <xolotl> There wasn't some major shift in philosophy at Mojang or anything, just lawyers protecting Notch's ass.
#1639 [18:12] <nimble> kk :p
#1640 [18:12] <lyude> LAWYERSSSS
#1641 [18:12] <xolotl> (though, of course, I'm just some guy in USA's Midwest, so it's not like Mojang keeps me in the loop about this stuff. I could certainly turn out to be wrong.)
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#1643 [18:13] <nimble> ah well I don't mind either route :p
#1644 [18:13] <lyude> I do... if DLC applies to multiplayer, chances are I have to keep buying it so people on my server who buy it can use it in multiplayer
#1645 [18:14] <nimble> mm
#1646 [18:14] <nimble> I guess
#1647 [18:14] <lyude> And that's unfair, completely unfair
#1648 [18:14] <xolotl> I'd still maintain that it's pointless worrying about it now.
#1649 [18:14] <lyude> mm
#1650 [18:14] <nimble> though you can just have a no dlc multiplayer I guess and people just have to put up with not using it :p
#1651 [18:14] <xolotl> 1.0 isn't even out until November, and any hypothetical expansions wouldn't be out for quite awhile after that
#1652 [18:14] <lyude> I don't see why he'd do it, he's making tons of money as it is
#1653 [18:15] <xolotl> The thing that mystifies me about it is that I'm not aware of ANY game that has ever explicitly said "you will get all future updates for free, forever" in their terms-of-service
#1654 [18:15] <xolotl> But so many people get so upset simply because Minecraft *also* doesn't feature that phrase anymore.
#1655 [18:16] <xolotl> It's just bringing the TOS more in line with what every single other game on the planet has.
#1656 [18:16] <lyude> Because most games don't charge for updates, or rather most of the best
#1657 [18:16] <lyude> Mainly those by valve
#1658 [18:16] <xolotl> I mean sure, it was *nice* that the original TOS had that kind of phrase, but it was the exception by far.
#1659 [18:16] <lyude> I'm guessing the community is full of gamers who aren't used to that sort of thing
#1660 [18:16] <xolotl> lyude: Right, but those games don't *promise* in their TOSes that you'll get all future updates for free, forever.
#1661 [18:16] <lyude> You don't see most hardcore COD6 gamers on MC
#1662 [18:16] <lyude> Yeah, but they know the companies won't do it
#1663 [18:16] <xolotl> That's the issue; if you put it in a TOS then it's a legal obligation, so nobody does it
#1664 [18:17] <lyude> Taking it out of the TOS is like saying "We might do it'
#1665 [18:17] <lyude> *"
#1666 [18:17] <xolotl> It's a completely separate issue than what will ACTUALLY happen with the company.
#1667 [18:17] <xolotl> lyude: It's not though; it's a stupid promise to make in a TOS. You could totally shoot yourself in the foot.
#1668 [18:17] <lyude> I understand that though
#1669 [18:17] <lyude> They don't
#1670 [18:17] <lyude> :P
#1671 [18:17] <xolotl> lyude: Like, would that apply to some future "Minecraft 2" or whatever?
#1672 [18:17] <xolotl> What's the whole scope for it, etc? It makes a lot more sense to just leave it out.
#1673 [18:17] <xolotl> But anyway
#1674 [18:18] <lyude> Minecraft 2 takes place in New Jersey, after a large nuclear explosion
#1675 [18:18] <xolotl> We'll see what happens.
#1676 [18:18] <lyude> Creepers start to infect humans, and turn them into creepers
#1677 [18:18] <xolotl> lyude: Minecraft 2: MINECRAFT HARDER.
#1678 [18:18] <lyude> And they're all running towards YOU
#1679 [18:18] <lyude> Weather changes; It can rain creepers
#1680 [18:18] <lyude> That don't die from fall damage
#1681 [18:18] <lyude> Your blocks can turn into creepers
#1682 [18:18] <xolotl> Speaking of, I am stoked about weather in 1.5
#1683 [18:18] <nimble> Minecraft 2 = you control the creepers and blow other people's dreams up :p
#1684 [18:18] <lyude> Is that a pickaxe? No, it's a creeper
#1685 [18:18] <nimble> it'll be a crappy spinoff that won't sell :p
#1686 [18:19] <lyude> What is weather gonna be like?
#1687 [18:19] <lyude> Also, just had a random idea
#1688 [18:19] <nimble> rain/snow/lightning
#1689 [18:19] <nimble> theres a video on youtube
#1690 [18:19] <nimble> i'll find it :)
#1691 [18:19] <lyude> Is it possible to make a plugin that can foward output from a command from the system
#1692 [18:19] <lyude> Specifically fortune -a
#1693 [18:20] <xolotl> lyude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy882ILYJMM
#1694 [18:20] <nimble> or someone else will first.. grr
#1695 [18:20] <xolotl> \o/
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#1697 [18:21] <nimble> the snow is pretty :p it looked crapped in stills but I changed my mind about it now
#1698 [18:21] <xolotl> Yeah, I've really missed it
#1699 [18:21] <xolotl> Well
#1700 [18:21] <xolotl> I guess that statement's a bit strong
#1701 [18:21] <nimble> I dislike the transitions between biomes though :/
#1702 [18:21] <xolotl> I've missed it, anyway. :)
#1703 [18:27] <HK6> Alright I am back.
#1704 [18:27] <HK6> Any ideas @GreyVulpine?
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#1706 [18:29] <Diablothein> Random Fact: On Call of Duty: Black Ops multiplayer, it is possible to see a double rainbow on the map Nuketown.
#1707 [18:29] <TheNytangel> ..
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#1709 [18:34] <captain-obvious> anyone that can help me with this log in issue?
#1710 [18:34] <captain-obvious> I can log into the game and play on the website but not from the local client
#1711 [18:35] <captain-obvious> seems to be a common issue with a lot of "tech-support" solutions
#1712 [18:35] <captain-obvious> in other words, delete caches and reboot etc
#1713 [18:35] <oldtopman> ??> captain-obvious win/reinst
#1714 [18:35] <VoxelHead> captain-obvious: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1715 [18:35] <VoxelHead> captain-obvious: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1716 [18:36] <TheNytangel> does bukkit have /sethome?
#1717 [18:36] <captain-obvious> VoxelHead: tried it
#1718 [18:36] <captain-obvious> same problems
#1719 [18:37] <captain-obvious> also checked my hosts file
#1720 [18:37] <oldtopman> Hmm
#1721 [18:37] <TheNytangel> thank you captain-obvious
#1722 [18:37] <TheNytangel> lol
#1723 [18:37] <captain-obvious> :P
#1724 [18:37] <TheNytangel> i just had to say that
#1725 [18:37] <oldtopman> Just bear in mind thet Vox is a bot
#1726 [18:37] <captain-obvious> thats why I have the nick :P
#1727 [18:37] <oldtopman> Whats wrong with the browser version?
#1728 [18:37] <HK6> @VoxelHead: Any chance you could help me with my server issues?
#1729 [18:37] <captain-obvious> oldtopman: no full screen?
#1730 [18:38] <oldtopman> doesn't F11 still work
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#1732 [18:38] <oldtopman> HK6: VoxelHead is a bot
#1733 [18:38] <TheNytangel> captain-obvious, alt+enter works in most games ;)
#1734 [18:38] <HK6> oldtopman: Oh. :(
#1735 [18:38] <captain-obvious> really?
#1736 [18:39] <oldtopman> HK6: He is designe to be a pretty convincing one, so don't feel too bad
#1737 [18:39] <TheNytangel> in all the shooters i have played, yes
#1738 [18:39] <TheNytangel> :P
#1739 [18:39] <oldtopman> captain-obvious: Just try it
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#1741 [18:40] <captain-obvious> nope alt + enter didnt work :S
#1742 [18:40] <HK6> captain-obvious: Try F13.
#1743 [18:41] <captain-obvious> not falling for that one
#1744 [18:41] <HK6> Have you tried deleting System 32?
#1745 [18:42] <captain-obvious> also not falling for it
#1746 [18:42] <HK6> :(
#1747 [18:42] <captain-obvious> I am 2/3 on the way to a degree in AI and robotics, you gotta do better than that dude :P
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#1749 [18:43] <HK6> That is all I had.
#1750 [18:43] <captain-obvious> ok
#1751 [18:43] <HK6> I need a server specialist to help me with my problem. :/
#1752 [18:43] <sadro> Anyone know why I can't log on? I can only play single player. Also, on the website the game won't load in browser. I have java installed.
#1753 [18:43] <TheNytangel> does bukkit have /sethome?
#1754 [18:44] <oldtopman> xales, can you kick HK6 (Bad advice)
#1755 [18:44] <oldtopman> sadro: where did you get the game from
#1756 [18:44] <oldtopman> TheNytangel: Try #bukkit
#1757 [18:45] <TheNytangel> :o
#1758 [18:45] <TheNytangel> good idea
#1759 [18:45] <sadro> I believe I got it from minecraft.net
#1760 [18:45] <HK6> oldtopman: I was only having a laugh...
#1761 [18:46] <oldtopman> sadro: Did you buy the game?
#1762 [18:46] <sadro> Yes.
#1763 [18:46] <oldtopman> hmm
#1764 [18:46] <oldtopman> sadro: You wouldn't believe how many people come in here and complain about a game they haven't bought
#1765 [18:46] <sadro> I have the email and I have the transaction on my online bank statement.
#1766 [18:46] <oldtopman> sadro: Username?
#1767 [18:46] <sadro> gollsod
#1768 [18:47] <oldtopman> !paid gollsod
#1769 [18:47] <oldtopman> sadro: Then you must have the wrong password
#1770 [18:47] <sadro> It works to log into the webstie.
#1771 [18:48] <oldtopman> hmm
#1772 [18:48] <oldtopman> File a bug report I presume
#1773 [18:48] <sadro> Okay, I'll try it on another computer.
#1774 [18:48] <sadro> Thanks.
#1775 [18:49] <sadro> Also, how do I file a report?
#1776 [18:49] <sadro> Awww
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#1779 [18:53] <aetherian> sad-
#1780 [18:53] <aetherian> aww
#1781 [18:53] <gPad2002> ?? Index
#1782 [18:53] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1783 [18:53] <aetherian> .-.
#1784 [18:53] * gPad2002 shrugs
#1784 [18:54] * aetherian has that open in tab one in his browser at all times
#1784 [18:55] <aetherian> you don't see many dot info's anymore...
#1785 [19:02] <luckz> !paid wlqmpek
#1786 [19:03] <lyude> !paid lyude
#1787 [19:03] <lyude> Yes I have
#1788 [19:03] <gPad2002> :P
#1789 [19:03] <lyude> And you better remember it
#1790 [19:03] <HK6> !paid HK6
#1791 [19:03] <gPad2002> !paid argot
#1792 [19:03] <gPad2002> Typo
#1793 [19:03] <aetherian> !paid everyone
#1794 [19:03] <aetherian> :O
#1795 [19:03] <gPad2002> !paid arbot
#1796 [19:03] <HK6> :O
#1797 [19:03] <aetherian> hypocrites!
#1798 [19:03] <gPad2002> Hmm
#1799 [19:03] <gPad2002> !paid notch
#1800 [19:04] <gPad2002> Lies
#1801 [19:04] <lyude> No he hasn't
#1802 [19:04] <gPad2002> :P
#1803 [19:04] <aetherian> yes he has
#1804 [19:04] <aetherian> he's paid with his own sweat and tears
#1805 [19:04] <lyude> I was just going to say that
#1806 [19:04] <lyude> xD
#1807 [19:04] <gPad2002> xD
#1808 [19:04] <gPad2002> Hmm
#1809 [19:04] <gPad2002> !paid kaitou
#1810 [19:04] <gPad2002> Irony
#1811 [19:05] <HK6> !paid djarcas
#1812 [19:05] <HK6> :O
#1813 [19:05] <lyude> Guys, why need spam it
#1814 [19:05] <lyude> :(
#1815 [19:05] <gPad2002> !paid Player
#1816 [19:05] <gPad2002> :P
#1817 [19:06] <aetherian> !paid
#1818 [19:07] <aetherian> !paid someone
#1819 [19:07] <aetherian> make him
#1820 [19:07] <gPad2002> :P
#1821 [19:07] <gPad2002> !paid Herobrine
#1822 [19:07] <gPad2002> :O
#1823 [19:09] <aetherian> not surprised.
#1824 [19:09] <aetherian> herobrine is cool no more though.
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#1826 [19:09] <aetherian> heya ron
#1827 [19:09] <aetherian> *rob
#1828 [19:10] <HK6> So has anybody thought of anything else I could at least try with my server?
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#1832 [19:43] <luckz> HK6: what is your firewall application, what other AV and anti malware and similar apps do you ahve?
#1833 [19:44] <HK6> I have Windows Firewall, CA Security, and the firewall on my SMC router.
#1834 [19:44] <luckz> what is the middle one?
#1835 [19:44] <HK6> I tried disabling them all at the same time while on my wired connection and still had the same problem.
#1836 [19:45] <HK6> http://shop.ca.com/main/indexsca.asp
#1837 [19:45] <luckz> never heard of that.
#1838 [19:46] <luckz> can you play fine on others servers, did you try a completely new world and fresh install..
#1839 [19:46] <HK6> Yep yep and yep.
#1840 [19:46] <luckz> did you try uninstalling your odd software or using some other partition/system to boot from? :P
#1841 [19:46] <HK6> No and no.
#1842 [19:47] <HK6> I think it is something either really simple or really stupid.
#1843 [19:47] <HK6> Or both.
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#1846 [19:57] <MrPwnage231> how can i speak in the chats?
#1847 [19:58] <MrPwnage231> outher then these ones
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#1849 [20:04] <Tails_155[^w^]> I moved... just in stone blocks on Minecraft... at least 1832 blocks today....
#1850 [20:04] <Tails_155[^w^]> I also made 27 stone picks to do that XP
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#1852 [20:05] <LionOfComarre> Hello?
#1853 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1854 [20:05] <LionOfComarre> How are you?
#1855 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Good, you?
#1856 [20:06] <HK6> @GreyVulpine: Any more suggestions for my server?
#1857 [20:07] <Tails_155[^w^]> 3 new monkeys, and a bandana
#1858 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> HK6 - I don't honestly know, if there's something else you can think of...
#1859 [20:07] <LionOfComarre> I'm good. I was just wondering about something, if it's feasible to mod it, or if it'd go against the game's core programming, like increasing chunk height.
#1860 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe it's possible LionOfComarre
#1861 [20:08] <LionOfComarre> I know. I was going to ask about something else though.
#1862 [20:09] <LionOfComarre> Would it be possible to make light from different sources stack, rather than just ignoring the lower value as it does now?
#1863 [20:09] <LionOfComarre> So that two light sources placed new to each other would light up an area further away.
#1864 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> That, I wouldn't know LionOfComarre. You may need to look at mods for that.
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#1866 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> We don't really provide much modding help here, there's quite a few other channels for that purpose
#1867 [20:10] <LionOfComarre> Can you name some?
#1868 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> #mcp-modding, #risucraft, as well as others
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#1876 [20:39] <Tork232> Whats the chan for redstone wire?
#1877 [20:41] <Tork232> Plox Help?
#1878 [20:42] <Tork232> QQ
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#1882 [21:05] <relsqui> Tork232: I don't understand the question. are you looking for a channel where you can get help building circuits?
#1883 [21:06] <Tork232> No, im talking about the irc chan thats like #redstonehelp , its like the support team for minecraft
#1884 [21:06] <relsqui> first I've heard of it, sorry
#1885 [21:06] <Tork232> http://redstonewire.com/
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#1887 [21:07] <Tork232> testing some chans: #rshelp #redstone #rs #redstonewire #redstonewirehelp
#1888 [21:08] <Tork232> YAY FOUND IT
#1889 [21:08] <Tork232> It was "#redstonewire"
#1890 [21:09] <Tork232> #redstonewire
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#1896 [21:42] <aetherian> /me hums
#1897 [21:43] <aetherian> ;)
#1898 [21:43] <aetherian> see, is :) a left to right smiley or a right to left top of head (with eyes)
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#1900 [21:43] <aetherian> heya boaz
#1901 [21:44] <boaz> heya :-)
#1902 [21:44] <boaz> Anybody available to try a server for me? Trying to narrow down a problem with a real life friend not being able to connect to my server.
#1903 [21:44] <aetherian> IP?
#1904 [21:44] <boaz> 192.168.1.70
#1905 [21:44] <xales> There's the issue
#1906 [21:45] <xales> that is a local IP
#1907 [21:45] <aetherian> yep
#1908 [21:45] <xales> it will only work if they are on the same network as you
#1909 [21:45] <boaz> the guide i read said that i was suposed to use the Default Gateway in ipconfig?
#1910 [21:45] <boaz> ah, how do i do it long distance?
#1911 [21:45] <aetherian> is it your server
#1912 [21:45] <boaz> yes, it's a server on my PC (just goign to be the 2 of us in the world)
#1913 [21:46] <xales> You need to port forward
#1914 [21:46] <boaz> already have
#1915 [21:46] <aetherian> there's websites that can tell you your external IP, and you need to port fo- okay.
#1916 [21:46] <boaz> forwarded 25565
#1917 [21:46] <xales> then you use the ip from http://whatismyip.org/ assuming you did it correctly
#1918 [21:46] <aetherian> grinding in games is so fun, innit.
#1919 [21:47] <xales> no
#1920 [21:47] <xales> it isn't
#1921 [21:47] <aetherian> I know.
#1922 [21:47] <aetherian> I'm playing ff1.
#1923 [21:47] <aetherian> what fun!
#1924 [21:47] <boaz> haha I just finished a playthrough of FF9 on my psp, made it to disc 4 at lvl 30ish, didn't fight boss till 60ish. Grinding = eww
#1925 [21:48] <Wug> final fantasy bosses
#1926 [21:48] <Wug> 'we didn't want to give them tactics of any sort, so we have them 400000000 hit points.'
#1927 [21:49] <aetherian> hey, there was limited technology when this game was made
#1928 [21:49] <Wug> 'you, on the other hand, can do up to 9999 damage at once (more in some circumstances). have fun'
#1929 [21:49] <Wug> 'good luck surviving long enough to land 40000 attacks'
#1930 [21:49] <aetherian> don't know what game you played.
#1931 [21:51] <boaz> Ok new problem, used the ip off whatismyip.org and now on my minecraft server it showed that he lost connection but never showed him gain connection. On his side it says "failed to connect - premium" or something to that extent
#1932 [21:51] <aetherian> has he bought the game?
#1933 [21:51] <aetherian> no wait...
#1934 [21:51] <boaz> yea, we both bought 4 or 5 months ago when it was still cheap
#1935 [21:51] <aetherian> it's still cheap now, all things considering
#1936 [21:52] <xales> boaz: firewall running?
#1937 [21:52] <aetherian> such as the fact that if it was fifty dollars it'd still be worth the price.
#1938 [21:52] <xales> (more importantly - are _you_ able to connect?)
#1939 [21:52] <boaz> just the router firewall and it's port forwarded
#1940 [21:52] <aetherian> heh, xal
#1941 [21:52] <boaz> yea i can connect using the :25565 as an ip, that right?
#1942 [21:52] <xales> No
#1943 [21:52] <aetherian> 127.0.0.1 as the IP
#1944 [21:52] <xales> Connect using '127.0.0.1
#1945 [21:52] <xales> (without the ')
#1946 [21:53] <aetherian> but the ' is essential!
#1947 [21:53] <boaz> yea i can connect, worked fine
#1948 [21:53] <aetherian> lovely
#1949 [21:53] <xales> boaz: is your friend able to connect to other servers?
#1950 [21:53] <aetherian> most computers allow you to connect by typing in localhost as well.
#1951 [21:54] <boaz> he's trying that now
#1952 [21:54] <boaz> while he is looking... was on Minecraft facebook page and saw like 100 posts of people talking about freeminecraft.net or something like that. That legit or average spam?
#1953 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, spam
#1954 [21:55] <aetherian> sounds to me like spam.
#1955 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> At worse, a scam.
#1956 [21:55] <aetherian> definitely spam/scam
#1957 [21:55] <Wug> its spam
#1958 [21:55] <boaz> what i figured, but since there were so many posts and nothing denoucing them, lol. Site said something about using ads to get profit and giving people free minecraft keys for posting their links/banners
#1959 [21:55] * aetherian looked at the page
#1959 [21:55] <Wug> it's probably just spam
#1960 [21:55] <Wug> but I use scare tactics to get people not to post it
#1961 [21:56] <Wug> I tell everyone it steals your password and credit card info
#1962 [21:56] <Wug> do you mean the official page or the unofficial page?
#1963 [21:56] <aetherian> as in, in order to get it, one must supposedly post a message on six "BIG Facebook fan page(s) that is related to games."
#1964 [21:56] <aetherian> most certainly spam/scam
#1965 [21:56] <Wug> the best part is you can just go past that step, it will let you
#1966 [21:56] <aetherian> aren't people kind
#1967 [21:56] <Wug> people are suck sheep today
#1968 [21:57] <Wug> such*
#1969 [21:57] <aetherian> oh yeah
#1970 [21:57] <aetherian> and suck(ers)
#1971 [21:57] * Wug types www.facebook.com/minecraft , then clicks on it
#1971 [21:57] <bokaholic> Ahhhh home.
#1972 [21:58] <Wug> lol
#1973 [21:58] <Wug> "I know, I'll get around the spam filter! I'm so smart!"
#1974 [21:58] <Wug> the result:
#1975 [21:58] <Wug> I just got ap://www.minecraft- free minecraft account from httwiki.com/free !!!!!
#1976 [21:59] <Wug> I wonder if he did it on purpose, or if he just thinks like that
#1977 [21:59] <aetherian> needs more exclamation points.
#1978 [21:59] <Wug> you know what
#1979 [21:59] <aetherian> yes I do.
#1980 [21:59] <Wug> I should just block ' !!!!!'
#1981 [21:59] <Wug> that would catch like all of it
#1982 [21:59] <Wug> and maybe "<3<3<3<3<3"
#1983 [21:59] <aetherian> then no normal people can comment, it would seem.
#1984 [21:59] <Wug> since nobody actually posts that
#1985 [22:00] <aetherian> and do people do <3<3<3<3<3etc.
#1986 [22:00] <aetherian> I thought it was <3333333etc.
#1987 [22:00] <Wug> only stupid people put spaces between words and !'s
#1988 [22:00] <bokaholic> ? ! ? !
#1989 [22:00] <Wug> it's actual hearts
#1990 [22:00] <Wug> I can't type a heart
#1991 [22:00] <aetherian> Wug: that was my point .-.
#1992 [22:00] <Wug> it's some unicode magic
#1993 [22:00] <aetherian> ♥
#1994 [22:00] <aetherian> :D
#1995 [22:01] <Wug> ♥♥♥♥ I can copy and paste it
#1996 [22:01] <aetherian> ಠ_ಠ
#1997 [22:01] <Wug> that shows up as derpy blocks
#1998 [22:01] <aetherian> haha
#1999 [22:01] * Wug googles ubuntu character packs
#1999 [22:01] * Wug installs all of font
#1999 [22:01] <aetherian> anyway
#2000 [22:01] <Wug> anyway, must get back to eclipse
#2001 [22:02] <Wug> I decompiled minecraft and have it down to only about 175 errors
#2002 [22:02] <aetherian> o.o
#2003 [22:02] <Wug> and they're all ambiguous references
#2004 [22:02] <aetherian> why are you de/recompiling?
#2005 [22:02] <Wug> it had 3500 errors when I started
#2006 [22:02] <Wug> so I can mod everything :3
#2007 [22:02] <Wug> unfortunately, I'm not sharing.
#2008 [22:03] <aetherian> thank god
#2009 [22:04] <aetherian> only 1525 EXP more until all my guys are level nine
#2010 [22:04] <aetherian> I'm thinking 1-2 hours
#2011 [22:09] <aetherian> I gotta level up 1-2 just to use this spell I bought :}
#2012 [22:10] <aetherian> I wonder if it worked for boaz
#2013 [22:11] <aetherian> that is, what we told him.
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#2017 [22:22] <trench> You tried to access the address http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html, which is currently unavailable.
#2018 [22:22] <xales> lol, whoops
#2019 [22:23] * xales will fix that later :<
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#2024 [22:38] <braxton> Hello, for some reason, when I use the /solid command and place stone blocks, it doesn't turn into bedrock.
#2025 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> For.. classic?
#2026 [22:38] <braxton> Nope
#2027 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Command only works in classic
#2028 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Or you've got a mod of some kind
#2029 [22:39] <braxton> Maann.
#2030 [22:39] <braxton> Okay, thanks.
#2031 [22:40] <aetherian> hum de hum hum
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#2033 [22:55] <masterall555> hello?
#2034 [22:55] <xales> Just say what the problem is ._.
#2035 [22:56] <masterall555> cant log on minecraft via minecraft.net or client
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#2038 [22:56] <masterall555> o.O
#2039 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean via minecraft.net?
#2040 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> What do you get?
#2041 [22:58] <masterall555> Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password.
#2042 [22:58] <masterall555> and im SURe its right
#2043 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Then, try the password recovery tool
#2044 [22:58] <masterall555> cuz on the client, it was logging in all right, the password was saved
#2045 [22:58] <masterall555> kk
#2046 [22:58] <masterall555> fkn so simple and i still dont get it, but thanks
#2047 [23:01] <Tork232> Does anyone know how to downgrade Minecraft 1.4_01 to Minecraft 1.4?
#2048 [23:02] <Tork232> Ello?
#2049 [23:03] <Tork232> ..
#2050 [23:03] <Tork232> ...
#2051 [23:03] <Tork232> ....
#2052 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a backup?
#2053 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> ..
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#2056 [23:11] <xolotl> ...
#2057 [23:11] <fizyplankton> Tork232: there are probably people who archived the different versions of icraft. just make sure to back up the ~/.minecraft/worlds and maybe the ~/.minecraft/textureapack and maybe the ~/.minecraft/screenshots
#2058 [23:12] <fizyplankton> ~/.minecraft/saves* i think
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#2060 [23:17] <Jackson413> !check 82.47.122.78
#2061 [23:18] <Wug> trivia: how many command line parameters does minecraft take?
#2062 [23:18] <mike_> 1
#2063 [23:18] <Wug> no.
#2064 [23:18] <mike_> :)
#2065 [23:18] <Wug> keep guessing
#2066 [23:18] <mike_> 54
#2067 [23:19] <Wug> no
#2068 [23:19] <Wug> its not unreasonably huge
#2069 [23:24] <Wug> it takes 3.
#2070 [23:24] <Wug> minecraft.exe <username> <password> <ip:port>
#2071 [23:24] <Wug> providing the first fills in the username field and stops,
#2072 [23:24] <Wug> providing the first 2 automatically logs you in,
#2073 [23:24] <Wug> and providing all 3 automatically logs you in and connects to the provided server.
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#2075 [23:27] <Espeon> Hum
#2076 [23:29] * Espeon wonders if the channel could be +g so people could invite people who are asking for help in the wrong channel
#2076 [23:29] <xales> You don't need it to be +g if it's not +s
#2077 [23:29] <xales> (IIRC)
#2078 [23:29] <holliebuckets> hello can i as an addon question here??
#2079 [23:30] <holliebuckets> *ask
#2080 [23:31] <Espeon> xales: with the new thing only ops can invite unless it's +g
#2081 [23:31] <xales> holliebuckets: No. If it's Bukkit related, #bukkit otherwise #mcmods
#2082 [23:31] <xales> Espeon: O RLY
#2083 [23:32] <holliebuckets> thank you xales!!
#2084 [23:32] <Espeon> ^
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