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#2 [00:03] <Niseb> ...
#3 [00:03] <Niseb> Howdy I was directed here as I was bugging the IRC too much
#4 [00:03] <xales> Niseb: What exactly is the problem, then?
#5 [00:04] <Niseb> the problem is that I can't seem to make the lan server client to run properly.
#6 [00:04] <xales> What happens when you try?
#7 [00:04] <Robdgreat> and you say it's on the same machine?
#8 [00:04] <Niseb> whenever my friends try to connect localy (or even me) the world never loads.
#9 [00:04] <Niseb> yes.
#10 [00:04] <Robdgreat> how does the lan come into play, then?
#11 [00:04] <xales> What do you mean, "lan server client"?
#12 [00:05] <Niseb> well if you run the client on the same computer, by using its private ip 192.168... you can connect friends computers to your computer and run using a lan.
#13 [00:05] <Robdgreat> right. That's how I do it
#14 [00:06] <Niseb> and the world doesn't load.
#15 [00:06] <Niseb> it loads a few chunks and you simply continuously fall until you disconnect.
#16 [00:06] <Robdgreat> strange
#17 [00:06] <Niseb> you're not getting the issue?
#18 [00:06] <Robdgreat> works perfectly for me
#19 [00:07] <Niseb> wow maybe I should try running the server on a friends computer and seeing how that turns out.
#20 [00:07] <Niseb> hold on...
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#22 [00:07] <xales> Niseb: How much RAM do you have? How are you launching the server (using the .exe?)
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#25 [00:09] <Robdgreat> actually, when I moved my world over to smp from single-player I did observe some missing chunks
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#27 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> That's to be expected though
#28 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> MC's netcode needs a bit of work.
#29 [00:10] <Robdgreat> but they were just a few missing chunks, not a few non-missing chunks, as seems to be the case with Niseb
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#31 [00:12] <Niseb> I run a 4gig ddr3 ram computer with an intel i5 2.2ghz processor and a GeForce 360M 1gig of dedicated video memory
#32 [00:14] <Niseb> I'm trying to get my friend's computer running his own server to see if it'll work with that. if that's the case then its something wrong with my computer
#33 [00:15] <xales> Niseb: Try disablind animals and monsters in the server.properties file on your computer, see if that does anything
#34 [00:15] * xales has an idea..
#34 [00:15] <aetherian> uh oh
#35 [00:18] <Niseb> ooop! that fixed it!
#36 [00:18] <Niseb> let me try generating a new world
#37 [00:18] <Niseb> wow disabling monsters and animals?
#38 [00:19] <Niseb> what the heck causes that to be an issue?
#39 [00:21] <Niseb> ?
#40 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Server load + unoptimized netcode + some specific computer config that this issue arises with
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#42 [00:22] <Niseb> lol wonderous
#43 [00:22] <Niseb> anytime it being fixed?
#44 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> We don't know
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#46 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> It's been like this since 1.3 came out in Feb, and hasn't been fixed in 1.4 yet
#47 [00:25] <Niseb> alright. hopefully one day notch will fix it
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#49 [00:26] <Dolla> Someone wanna help me see if they can access my server?
#50 [00:27] <xales> You can test it with the bot
#51 [00:27] <xales> Just say "!check (ip)"
#52 [00:27] <Dolla> !check 98.145.148.31
#53 [00:27] <Dolla> oh wait
#54 [00:27] <Dolla> hmmm
#55 [00:27] <Dolla> things look grim apparently
#56 [00:29] <Dolla> !check automagicghost.mine.nu
#57 [00:29] <Dolla> hmmmmm
#58 [00:29] <Dolla> I wonder what the problem could be
#59 [00:31] <Dolla> Anyone know anything about setting up an SMP server?
#60 [00:31] <xales> Did you port forward?
#61 [00:31] <Dolla> Hmmmmm
#62 [00:31] <Dolla> nope >.
#63 [00:31] <Dolla> >.>; oops
#64 [00:31] <aetherian> 'twould be a problem
#65 [00:32] <Dolla> is it a TCP or a DUP
#66 [00:32] <Dolla> UDP*
#67 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> TCp
#68 [00:32] <xales> TCP, port 25565
#69 [00:33] <Dolla> apparently the port ranges overlapped o_O
#70 [00:36] <Dolla> What would be the value I'd put in private port o_O
#71 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565
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#73 [00:46] <Dolla> hmmmm
#74 [00:46] <Dolla> Now I just need the private ip
#75 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> Are you on the computer you'll be running the server on?
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#77 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> If so, what operating system is it running?
#78 [00:50] <Tork232> Can someone send me a download for 1.4 not 1.4_1 ? (Does anyone know how to downgrade Minecraft 1.4_01 to Minecraft 1.4?)
#79 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Tork232 - Did you back up the 1.4 files?
#80 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> We don't allow people to share older files in this channel.
#81 [00:51] <Sebastian> Why not?
#82 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> It goes against Mojang's TOS.
#83 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> On top of making our lives worse, in determining what version of minecraft people are running.
#84 [00:52] <Tork232> @Grey No i did not
#85 [00:52] <Sebastian> Ahh, I see.
#86 [00:52] <Tork232> Never thought i would need to
#87 [00:53] <Dolla> oh sorry, back
#88 [00:53] <Dolla> I'm on the computer
#89 [00:53] <Dolla> and I'm running Windows Vista
#90 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure you can google for older versions.
#91 [00:53] <xales> Tork232: One sec...
#92 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> And if you're on windows, the file you'll need to replace, is minecraft.jar in your %appdata$/.minecraft/bin directory
#93 [00:54] <xales> Tork232: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#94 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> But again, we're not here to support older versions of minecraft
#95 [00:54] <xales> ??+ oldversion|The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#96 [00:55] <Tork232> Dude i love you man, and i have no problem with no support towards the older versions
#97 [00:55] <xales> ?? oldversion
#98 [00:55] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#99 [00:55] <xales> \o/
#100 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> xales, that really.. bah, never mind
#101 [00:56] <xales> GreyVulpine: really what? ._.
#102 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Forget it, I'm all for helping others, just don't want Mojang's ToS strangling me.
#103 [00:57] <xales> Technically nothing wrong if it's binary patches ._.
#104 [00:57] <Tork232> GreyVulpine: Thanks for all the help man, oh and when i didnt respond i left to go play Nazi Zombies Black Ops
#105 [00:57] <xales> you need the original jar to make ir work
#106 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp
#107 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> "If you've bought the game, you may play around with it and modify it. I'd appreciate it if you didn't use this for griefing, though, and remember not to distribute the changes."
#108 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Among other phrases from the ToS
#109 [00:58] * xolotl doesn't feel that that MCNostalgia thing is any less distributing Mojang code than just providing links to the Jars, honestly
#109 [00:58] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#109 [00:58] <xolotl> Not that I actually care, mind; I just think it's a very weak excuse
#110 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Again, I've got nothing against helping others with issues like this.
#111 [00:59] <aetherian> c-c-c-copyright dispute :D
#112 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> I sometimes break the rules myself, because I'd rather help others than wall them off with an excuse
#113 [00:59] <xolotl> Personally I think Mojang should really make the last N versions available via their launcher
#114 [00:59] <xolotl> Thus bypassing the whole issue
#115 [00:59] <xolotl> Though I dig that it makes debugging/testing/etc much more difficult
#116 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> It makes support even more frustrating
#117 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> On top of people running old versions via pirating
#118 [01:00] <xolotl> Oh sure, I'm with you there. I support software too. :)
#119 [01:01] <Tork232> GreyVulpine: Dont they do that already?
#120 [01:01] <xolotl> But given the general lag between version releases and servers getting upgraded especially, IMO it'd be nice to have some version-switching built in
#121 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Tork232 - My issue isn't just with people pirating, but them pirating + asking for help
#122 [01:01] <xolotl> But whatever
#123 [01:02] <Tork232> Ah same that annoys me hardcore
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#125 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Tell me about it, I've been here since late last year, and the number of times that's happened in this channel....
#126 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Almost getting burned out from that crap alone.
#127 [01:02] <Tork232> Well if you want my proof of purchaes i can get you it if you think im pirating but i dont think you are :P
#128 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Don't worry about it, heh.
#129 [01:03] <Tork232> Ikr?
#130 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Now uh, Dolla, you still there?
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#132 [01:05] <Dolla218> !check automagicghost.mine.nu
#133 [01:05] <Dolla218> Woo :D
#134 [01:06] <Wug> speaking of legal fuzzy stuff
#135 [01:06] <Wug> my minecraft decompilations is down to only 61 errors, and they're all ambiguous method calls.
#136 [01:07] <Wug> I've already refactored some human readable names into some parts
#137 [01:07] <Wug> I found the main method (not for the launcher though, that's later
#138 [01:07] <Wug> and the seecrit command line arguments
#139 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> seecrit?
#140 [01:08] <Wug> you can automatically log into an smp server with a command line argument
#141 [01:08] <aetherian> :o
#142 [01:08] <Wug> do not pass go, do not enter login info (this gets passed too)
#143 [01:08] <Wug> do not click anything
#144 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> You mean, this one?
#145 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/post/3427294253/welcome-to-the-new-minecraft-launcher
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#147 [01:08] * GreyVulpine coughs
#147 [01:08] <Wug> it's not a part of the launcher
#148 [01:08] <aetherian> coming down with a cold?
#149 [01:09] <Wug> it's actually handled in the jar itself
#150 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Oroo?
#151 [01:09] <Wug> yuhuh
#152 [01:09] <aetherian> enlighten us
#153 [01:09] <Wug> it gets passed to the minecraft jar
#154 [01:09] <Wug> from he launcher (obviously)
#155 [01:10] <Wug> I knew you could do a username and password from experimentation
#156 [01:10] <Wug> didn't know about the server thing though
#157 [01:10] <Wug> shame I can't share what I have with you guys
#158 [01:10] <Wug> Its going to take a lot of brainpower to get it working
#159 [01:11] <aetherian> ah, but you can.
#160 [01:13] <Tork232> Hey GreyVulpine, im not sure if you got my pm so please confirm you got my pm
#161 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> You may want to ask xales.
#162 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> xales - About that link you gave Tork232.
#163 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Can you show Tork232 how to use it?
#164 [01:14] <xales> I've never used it myself ._.
#165 [01:14] <Tork232> Rofl
#166 [01:14] <xales> Ask CyborgDragon, he made it
#167 [01:14] <Tork232> LF>CybordDragon :)
#168 [01:15] <xales> he's not around at the moment, if you wait in #risucraft he will show up there, and you can PM him (don't ask about it in that channel)
#169 [01:15] <Tork232> Well thanks anyway mang -youtube/google tiem-
#170 [01:15] <Tork232> Ok dokie
#171 [01:15] <Tork232> Thanks for the help man
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#173 [01:17] <Vera> Could anyone possibly help me with Towny?
#174 [01:17] <xales> Try #bukkit or #towny maybe
#175 [01:18] <Vera> I did...
#176 [01:18] <Vera> Anyone who's active on bukkit hasnt heard of towny
#177 [01:18] <Vera> And on Towny, they're all idle
#178 [01:19] <xales> We don't officially support any mods/plugins (anything except the official software from Mojang), and I don't think anyone here has heard of it either, sorry.
#179 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Haven't used bukkit myself yet either
#180 [01:20] <genshou> I tried using bukkit
#181 [01:21] <Vera> god... I cant even register to talk in half the channels
#182 [01:21] <genshou> every time I do, it screws up my router or modem to the point where I have to reset the whole thing via power outage
#183 [01:21] <genshou> :x
#184 [01:21] <xales> Vera: If you have difficulty with registering, ask in #help
#185 [01:21] <Vera> I got thrown into an admin position on a server and im completely lost on this Towny plugin
#186 [01:21] <Vera> I apparently already registered my name :/
#187 [01:22] <xales> Then IDENTIFY for it, using the password you set
#188 [01:22] <Vera> 10 years ago...
#189 [01:22] <Vera> lol. Would you remember a password from ten years ago?
#190 [01:22] <xales> Two years, aparrantly
#191 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> If you haven't identified for it, it should've been dropped for inactivity then
#192 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> And thus, you'll need to reregister the nick again
#193 [01:23] <xales> And it seems you aren't the owner, anyway
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#195 [01:23] <xales> Unless you used to live in Australia
#196 [01:23] <Vera> Sure didnt
#197 [01:23] <xales> Well, reason you can't register is that someone else owns your nick then
#198 [01:23] <Vera> I give up. This is far too much effort for changing one thing. I'll let the owner deal with it tomorrow
#199 [01:24] <Vera> Thanks anyway guys
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#201 [01:28] <Tork232> Im sorry for capps but : FUDGE YEA THEY UPDATED THE FREKIN MOD I WAS WANTING TO DOWNGRADE FOR WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE THE PISTON MOD :p ANYONE AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?
#202 [01:28] <Tork232> Sorry i had to get that out
#203 [01:28] <oldtopmanserver> !kick Tork232 CAPS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE
#204 [01:28] <oldtopmanserver> xales: Would op for me here be too much of a stretch?
#205 [01:28] <xales> ._.
#206 [01:29] <xales> oldtopmanserver: asking is the way to not get it :|
#207 [01:29] <Tork232> sowie ;(
#208 [01:29] <oldtopmanserver> Then I shall wait for the honor
#209 [01:29] <Tork232> i have done bad :( /ban tokr232
#210 [01:29] <Tork232> EPIC FAIl
#211 [01:29] <Tork232> .!ban tork232
#212 [01:29] * oldtopmanserver facepalms
#212 [01:30] * Tork232 laughs
#212 [01:30] * Tork232 has been banned for "Capital Letters" by GreyVulpine
#212 [01:30] <oldtopmanserver> XD
#213 [01:31] <Tork232> THATS NOT NICE GREY
#214 [01:31] <Tork232> imma have to eat ur babies now.
#215 [01:31] <oldtopmanserver> o.o
#216 [01:32] <Tork232> oh wait thats not normal ? O.O
#217 [01:33] <Tork232> oh btw did you think i really got banned?
#218 [01:33] <oldtopmanserver> You didn't
#219 [01:33] <Tork232> i know i didnt, i was asking did you think i did
#220 [01:34] <oldtopmanserver> no.
#221 [01:34] <oldtopmanserver> I lacken the opz
#222 [01:34] <Tork232> lol ok dokie but greyvulpine is, atleast i think
#223 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#224 [01:35] <Tork232> lol did you see my recent /me
#225 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it highlights me each time my name is used.
#226 [01:36] <Tork232> ok dokie well thats wut were talkin about :P
#227 [01:36] * Tork232 is muted by GreyVulpine
#227 [01:42] <lemon-rev> is there a way with the new slow water flow to get from shallow flowing water to the point of flow in a narrow area ?
#228 [01:53] <aetherian> thank you kindly, chanserv
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#232 [02:11] <Xephyros> Uhm, Hello?
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#234 [02:12] <aetherian> 'ello then
#235 [02:12] <Jackson413> hi
#236 [02:13] <Xephyros> Hey, im currently trying to run a minecraft server for me and a couple friends to play skylands on, but when they connect, they get massive lag but for me its running fine. Can anyone help? It's just a regular vanilla minecraft server.
#237 [02:14] <Robdgreat> Xephyros: what's your max upload speed?
#238 [02:14] <aetherian> well, skylands is inherently big
#239 [02:14] <aetherian> you'd likely need a large upload speed.
#240 [02:14] <Xephyros> Ill check my upload speed
#241 [02:14] <Xephyros> give me a minute
#242 [02:14] <Robdgreat> are you seeding torrents? :P
#243 [02:15] <Xephyros> No.
#244 [02:15] <Robdgreat> that question was only about 4% serious
#245 [02:15] <Xephyros> Ok.
#246 [02:16] <Xephyros> My upload speed is 8.35
#247 [02:16] <NotiCon> kb/s?
#248 [02:16] <Xephyros> Excuse me?
#249 [02:16] <Xephyros> Mpbs
#250 [02:16] <Xephyros> Mbps*
#251 [02:16] <NotiCon> oh right
#252 [02:17] <Xephyros> Soo?
#253 [02:17] <Xephyros> Im guessing it is not enough?
#254 [02:18] <Tork232> that was more then a epic fail
#255 [02:18] <Xephyros> Excuse me, good sir?
#256 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> An 8Mbps upload speed?
#257 [02:18] <Tork232> i just launched tnt at my on piston tnt launcher.........opps.
#258 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a speedtest.net result?
#259 [02:18] <Xephyros> I did,.
#260 [02:18] <NotiCon> no you wrote it
#261 [02:19] <Xephyros> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1246394057.png
#262 [02:19] <Tork232> wow nice
#263 [02:19] <Xephyros> Thank you.
#264 [02:19] <Xephyros> So?
#265 [02:19] <Tork232> 4.00 QQ
#266 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> 8 megabits, about a megabyte/sec down
#267 [02:20] <Xephyros> xD
#268 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Should be enough for minecraft.
#269 [02:20] <Xephyros> Ok
#270 [02:20] <Xephyros> But why are they lagging?
#271 [02:20] <Xephyros> Im trying to fix that
#272 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> As a test, could you turn off animals/monsters?
#273 [02:20] <Xephyros> Sure.
#274 [02:21] <Xephyros> Ok, i have to wait for him to join
#275 [02:26] <Xephyros> ok
#276 [02:26] <Xephyros> He said there is no lag now
#277 [02:27] * GreyVulpine nods
#277 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> WIth some computers/servers, turning off the monsters/animals decreases the load in some way that makes the lag go away.
#278 [02:28] <Xephyros> Oh.
#279 [02:28] <Xephyros> So in other words, people have some shitty computers?
#280 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> It boils down to, the server's netcode needs a bit of work, and until then, some computers can't able to up to snuff of running it.
#281 [02:29] <Xephyros> oh.
#282 [02:29] <Xephyros> Dammit notch D:
#283 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> It's been a recent issue since 1.3 rolled out, and hasn't been fixed in 1.4
#284 [02:29] <Xephyros> Ok
#285 [02:30] <Xephyros> So im guessing in 1.5 it might be fixed?
#286 [02:30] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#286 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> I couldn't tell you.
#287 [02:30] <Xephyros> If it isnt notch is going to get angry emails >:D
#288 [02:30] <Xephyros> uhm
#289 [02:30] <Xephyros> > : D
#290 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> I sent an email off to mojang the other day with this issue... among others.
#291 [02:30] <Xephyros> Ok.
#292 [02:31] <Xephyros> I heard 1.5 is coming in the next week or two?
#293 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> I haven't heard anything.
#294 [02:32] <Xephyros> Meh
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#296 [02:32] <Xephyros> Then again, it is minecraft forums
#297 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> None of the Mojang staff have released a date yet
#298 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> At least, not in the mojang/notch blog, or the various twitters
#299 [02:32] <Xephyros> Yeag
#300 [02:32] <Xephyros> Yeah*
#301 [02:32] <Xephyros> I guess I will wait it out
#302 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, that's the only thing people who experience this, can do for now.
#303 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
#304 [02:33] <Xephyros> Its alright, not your fault man
#305 [02:35] <Xephyros> Meh
#306 [02:36] <Xephyros> I hate how people see notch as a god
#307 [02:36] <Xephyros> Hes just an overweight bald man with a fedora that has made a very popular game :x
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#309 [02:39] * aetherian slaps Xephyros
#309 [02:39] <aetherian> that's hardly nice.
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#311 [02:43] <BrotherHakone> Hey Guys, I'm trying to recover a level after a system crash, and I can't figure out how to do it...
#312 [02:43] <aetherian> what's broken
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#314 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> The map, most likely
#315 [02:44] <aetherian> whoa
#316 [02:44] <aetherian> how specific
#317 [02:44] <Xephyros> I don't think you will be able to recover the level.
#318 [02:45] <aetherian> no
#319 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> You can
#320 [02:45] <aetherian> often maps can be recovered by opening it with MCedit
#321 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> There's a very good chance that MCedit can recover maps that have been lost via a system crash/shutdown
#322 [02:45] <Xephyros> Oh/
#323 [02:45] <BrotherHakone> So I shouldnt use NBTedit?
#324 [02:45] <Xephyros> Uhm.
#325 [02:45] <Xephyros> No
#326 [02:45] * GreyVulpine shakes
#326 [02:46] <aetherian> shakes what
#327 [02:46] <Xephyros> :3
#328 [02:47] <aetherian> :}
#329 [02:47] <Xephyros> xD
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#332 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#333 [02:47] * GreyVulpine pokes xales
#333 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> XALES!
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#335 [02:51] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: he went to bed
#336 [02:51] <aetherian> derp
#337 [02:51] * GreyVulpine grumbles
#337 [02:51] <aetherian> now now
#338 [02:52] <aetherian> calm down, foxman
#339 [02:54] <Mash> GreyVulpine, you a vanilla-only dewd? :o
#340 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> Mostly, yes.
#341 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> I've got nothing against mods, just, helping people here with mods kinda soured me on the idea
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#343 [02:55] <NotiCon> well this channel if for helping ppl with minecraft not with mod on minecraft D:
#344 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> We don't officially offer support for mods here, but it's just an excuse so that helpers here don't have to deal with the bazillion different combinations of third-party mods out there.
#345 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Nothing's stopping from people giving out modding support here though.
#346 [02:57] <NotiCon> true
#347 [03:01] <aetherian> or is it :o
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#349 [03:05] <samm> hello everyone!!
#350 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#351 [03:05] <samm> can someone help me with a quick question
#352 [03:06] <lemon-rev> samm please just ask your question
#353 [03:06] <samm> which java should i download for hosting a server?
#354 [03:06] <AG_Scott> JDK is supposed to be better.
#355 [03:06] <samm> i currently have 1.6.0_22
#356 [03:06] <AG_Scott> JRE would work though
#357 [03:07] <samm> wast the dif?
#358 [03:07] <AG_Scott> JDK is typically used for development but apparently has higher throughput
#359 [03:07] <AG_Scott> JRE is used for applications/client side
#360 [03:07] <samm> yeah i don wanna d.l the entire kit
#361 [03:07] <samm> should i just download wats on the java site?
#362 [03:07] <samm> or should i get the beta?
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#369 [03:19] <aetherian> Kealper: y u no liek vox
#370 [03:19] <aetherian> D:
#371 [03:19] <Kealper> it said bad things to me >.>
#372 [03:20] <aetherian> :o
#373 [03:20] <aetherian> naughty vox D:
#374 [03:20] <LargePrime> do you guys do redstone help?
#375 [03:21] <LargePrime> please?
#376 [03:21] <LargePrime> I have cookies...
#377 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> What about them?
#378 [03:21] <Wug> hello everyone
#379 [03:21] <Wug> I would just like to say
#380 [03:22] <Wug> #define TRUE FALSE
#381 [03:22] <Wug> happy debugging
#382 [03:22] <LargePrime> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=135985
#383 [03:22] <LargePrime> does this work like is suggested
#384 [03:22] <LargePrime> cause it does not for me
#385 [03:23] <LargePrime> and really want it to!
#386 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, sec then
#387 [03:23] <Kealper> Wug: you broke my brain with that single line >.>
#388 [03:23] <LargePrime> thankyou
#389 [03:25] <aetherian> Wug: wut
#390 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that kinda, sorta works
#391 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to catch it though.
#392 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> encase the plates so the items actually drop on the plates
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#395 [03:28] <Aska990> 'lo
#396 [03:29] * Kealper waves
#396 [03:30] <LargePrime> i did, but the items disappear and the dispensor is not retrigered
#397 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Did you attach the redstone torch to the side of the block?
#398 [03:31] <LargePrime> um
#399 [03:31] <LargePrime> move along
#400 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Heh.
#401 [03:32] <LargePrime> ok so smarty
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#403 [03:32] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper, "I think LargePrime is talking to you."
#403 [03:32] <Kealper> wut
#404 [03:32] <LargePrime> how do I count two of thoes cycles to turn on my streetlights
#405 [03:33] <Wug> guys,
#406 [03:33] * Kealper looks at the post that was linked
#406 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Couple of um.. latches
#407 [03:33] <Wug> I may have totally just discovered the cause of some of the lag problems people have
#408 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#409 [03:33] <aetherian> 'gnight, guys
#410 [03:33] <Wug> apparently
#411 [03:33] * LargePrime parks
#411 [03:33] <Kealper> but yeah, RS NORs could be used to count
#412 [03:33] <Wug> in the loops that process packets
#413 [03:33] <Wug> from what I see
#414 [03:33] * aetherian says goodnight to AuBot
#414 [03:34] <Kealper> Wug: it's super bad isn't it
#415 [03:34] <Wug> theres a type of packet which only gets processed once every 50 iterations
#416 [03:34] <Wug> or something like that
#417 [03:34] <Kealper> O.o
#418 [03:34] <Wug> it's not fully deobfuscated yet
#419 [03:35] <Wug> theres a known issue about the server spamming packets, i've seen it myself with wireshark
#420 [03:35] <Kealper> +1 on that
#421 [03:35] <LargePrime> Kealper can you give me more on that counting thing?
#422 [03:35] <Kealper> tried making a transparent proxy program and when outputting what the server sent to the client...lordy was that a ton of data being pushed to the stdout
#423 [03:35] <Wug> additionally, these 'low priority' packets are only send 1 at a time
#424 [03:35] <GreyVulpine> Okay.. can you elaborate?
#425 [03:36] <Kealper> LargePrime: an RS NOR is basically a simple memory circuit
#426 [03:36] <Wug> so if they include chat packets, and there are enough low priority packets to begin to build up,
#427 [03:36] <LargePrime> thats waht wiki says
#428 [03:36] <Wug> chat, block, whatever packets would seem to incur a larger and larger delay
#429 [03:37] <Wug> furthermore, players get disconnected due to overflows once the low priority packet buffer reaches a certain size limit
#430 [03:37] <Kealper> wahey!
#431 [03:37] <Wug> you've probably all seen both of those issues - the creeping lag and the overflow disconnect at the end of it
#432 [03:37] <Kealper> Wug: you probably just nailed that error on the head lol
#433 [03:38] <Wug> ill dig deeper
#434 [03:38] <Kealper> and yes with the creeping lag that just builds and builds up until an overflow...gotten it myself a few times too
#435 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, that's one type of lag that I've seen, sure..
#436 [03:38] <Wug> but I've already decided what to make my first mod about though
#437 [03:38] <Kealper> Wug: netcode rewrite? XD
#438 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Complete server rewritten in fortran?
#439 [03:39] <Wug> I did poke around in the c++ code of a classic server
#440 [03:39] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: fortran? why stop there? ASM!
#441 [03:39] <LargePrime> further proof of the value of open source
#442 [03:39] <Wug> screw it. i'll port it to assembly
#443 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#444 [03:39] <Wug> it'll be done tomorrow evening
#445 [03:39] <Kealper> XD
#446 [03:39] <Wug> OVER 9000 FPS
#447 [03:40] <Wug> it'll ddos your internets with its rocket packet awesomeness
#448 [03:40] <Kealper> "OpenGL? what is this 'abstract design' you speak of?"
#449 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Use only CUDA to process minecraft's rendering.
#450 [03:40] <NotiCon> Wug: you wouldnt dare
#451 [03:40] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: OpenCL
#452 [03:40] <Wug> :3
#453 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, screw OpenCL
#454 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Nvidia, or bust
#455 [03:40] <Kealper> OpenCL is basically the same thing but works on all manly GPUs
#456 [03:40] <Wug> it's assembly. I can just make it run natively on the graphics card
#457 [03:41] <Kealper> ^
#458 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Would save us a whole lotta trouble on ATI+linux
#459 [03:41] <Wug> with machine code powered hax
#460 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Get an nvidia card, or don't play minecraft :_
#461 [03:41] <Kealper> lol
#462 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> :)
#463 [03:41] <Wug> well, brb. back to packet poking
#464 [03:41] <Kealper> i'd be stuck using a geforce 8400GS >.>
#465 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#466 [03:41] <Kealper> but like...
#467 [03:42] <Wug> (also, I know it's illegal to distribute minecraft components, but if anyone wants to help...)
#468 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> Just as long as we don't see it here.. *coughs8
#469 [03:42] <Kealper> why would it only listen for a certain packets after a certain iteration of looping?
#470 [03:42] <Wug> (we could form a corporation and establish a single legal entity that can access it at will or something)
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#472 [03:42] <Wug> no idea
#473 [03:42] <Wug> ask notch
#474 [03:43] <Kealper> i realize it's probably to give packets a general priority level.....but that's.....dumb...
#475 [03:44] <Kealper> and just seems like it would not benefit much, as the server still has to parse the recieve buffer to determine what should be low priority or not..if it gets that far, why not just say screw it and finish like a boss?
#476 [03:45] <Kealper> also as a random question
#477 [03:45] <Kealper> Wug do you know of any place that has a half-way up to date documentation on beta's protocol?
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#479 [03:46] <Wug> np
#480 [03:46] <Wug> no
#481 [03:46] <Kealper> TkTech used to have one up but it's been gone for a while :/
#482 [03:46] <Wug> but I could probably have one for you in a few ways
#483 [03:46] <Wug> I've found all of the packet classes
#484 [03:46] <Kealper> meh, wasn't too important lol
#485 [03:46] <Wug> im going through all of this stuff anyway
#486 [03:46] <Wug> when I get all of that important stuff out, I'll post on the forums
#487 [03:47] <Kealper> the language i use isn't fast enough to quickly handle that much spam of packets fast enough anyways :<
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#489 [03:48] <NotiCon> just make some more threads to handle them
#490 [03:48] <Wug> what language?
#491 [03:48] <Wug> is it perl
#492 [03:48] <Kealper> although it would be neat to have a program sitting in between the clients and the server....stuff like that tnt exploit could just be filtered before even hitting the server
#493 [03:48] <Kealper> Wug: worse
#494 [03:48] <Wug> is it ...
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#496 [03:48] <Kealper> well..maybe not, but it's still interpreted
#497 [03:48] <Wug> python?
#498 [03:48] <Kealper> nope
#499 [03:48] <NotiCon> is it f#?
#500 [03:48] <Wug> is it...
#501 [03:48] <Wug> haskell?
#502 [03:48] <Kealper> you won't get it lol
#503 [03:49] <NotiCon> is it c?
#504 [03:49] <Wug> ^ lol
#505 [03:49] <NotiCon> D:
#506 [03:49] <Wug> its a slow language
#507 [03:49] <Kealper> c isn't interpreted, and it's like 10000x faster than java lol
#508 [03:49] <Wug> what is it?
#509 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> It's Kealper++™
#510 [03:49] <Kealper> ^
#511 [03:49] <NotiCon> lol
#512 [03:49] <Kealper> yes, that's right, i'm OO
#513 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> So slow, even java seems fast
#514 [03:49] <Wug> how long have you been trying to figure out how to type the �?
#515 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> I have ™ memorized, have been since high school
#516 [03:50] <Kealper> lol
#517 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> also ² and ³
#518 [03:50] <Wug> I memorize important ones
#519 [03:50] <Kealper> ³ ftw
#520 [03:50] <Wug> I know [squared]
#521 [03:50] <Wug> at least on windows
#522 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> 0178
#523 [03:50] <Wug> no clue on ubuntu :P
#524 [03:50] <NotiCon> is it rudy?
#525 [03:50] <NotiCon> -d+
#526 [03:50] <NotiCon> b
#527 [03:50] <Wug> ruby
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#529 [03:50] <Kealper> i know the superscript 3 from Doom³ lol
#530 [03:50] <didi> hello need some quick help
#531 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> With?
#532 [03:51] <Wug> lol is it a javascript interpreter running in python
#533 [03:51] <didi> minecraft runs fine ssp, but not smp
#534 [03:51] <Wug> how is it borked?
#535 [03:51] <didi> over LAN or online
#536 [03:51] <didi> it's laggy
#537 [03:51] <didi> particularly when i turn
#538 [03:51] <Kealper> i'll say the language, but please, if you've heard of it years ago...know that it's not what it used to be lol
#539 [03:51] <didi> and walk around
#540 [03:51] <Kealper> AutoIt ._.
#541 [03:51] <Wug> can you do me a favor?
#542 [03:51] <didi> i spose
#543 [03:51] <Wug> ^ heard of it
#544 [03:51] <Wug> and its successor autohotkey
#545 [03:51] <Wug> which I very much like
#546 [03:52] <NotiCon> isnt that kind alike basic?
#547 [03:52] <Kealper> AHK is not a successor
#548 [03:52] <Wug> in any case
#549 [03:52] <didi> ?
#550 [03:52] <Wug> didi, do you have admin rights on your computer
#551 [03:52] <didi> yeah
#552 [03:52] <didi> win 7
#553 [03:52] <Kealper> AHK was the redheadded stepchild of a AutoIt dev gone AWOL back in AutoIt's old days
#554 [03:52] <Wug> download wireshark for me
#555 [03:52] <Wug> www.wireshark.org I think
#556 [03:53] <Wug> what was his name... (I used the forums a bit)
#557 [03:53] <Wug> chris?
#558 [03:53] <Kealper> Wug: idea: packet dump collector for minecraft :O
#559 [03:53] <Wug> ^ thats the idea
#560 [03:53] <Kealper> Wug: no idea, never looked that far into it....i can't stand the syntax of AHK so i stay clear of it
#561 [03:54] <didi> also*
#562 [03:54] <Wug> it has some weirdness to it
#563 [03:54] <didi> my computer isn't that great either
#564 [03:54] <Kealper> it takes BASIC to a whole new level of .....basic...lol
#565 [03:54] <AG_Scott> Qubetubers apparently raised $27k USD this weekend.
#566 [03:54] <Wug> it can play single player fine though, tight?
#567 [03:54] <didi> 2GB ram, intel integrated gfx
#568 [03:54] <Wug> right*
#569 [03:54] <didi> not totally fine, but not as bad as mp
#570 [03:54] <Wug> is it lag, or low framerates
#571 [03:54] <Wug> they're not the same thing
#572 [03:54] <didi> a bit of both
#573 [03:54] <Kealper> press F3 and tell us what the FPS is
#574 [03:55] <didi> like, clicking an item in the inventory and moving it lags a bit
#575 [03:55] <Wug> I can't fix low framerates, because on a machine with those specs it's reasonably normal
#576 [03:55] <Kealper> didi: all the graphics settings are on lowest, right?
#577 [03:55] <Wug> didi: when you're done, do it in ssp as well, and tell us both numbers.
#578 [03:56] * Wug needs to get back to coding but will stay another minute
#578 [03:56] <Kealper> Wug: wutcha makin'? a packet dump thingie?
#579 [03:56] <Wug> also, didi, is this on all servers or just one?
#580 [03:57] <Wug> no, im making minecraft :P
#581 [03:57] <Wug> there are many many files
#582 [03:57] <Kealper> oh, dare i ask any more? lol
#583 [03:57] <Wug> and java decompilers are rather borky
#584 [03:57] <Kealper> owait, still deobfuscating things?
#585 [03:57] <Wug> it had 3500 errors when I started (and yes I am)
#586 [03:57] <Wug> it's down to 61 errors
#587 [03:58] <Kealper> lol
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#589 [03:58] <didi> meh
#590 [03:58] <NotiCon> you decompiled minecraft.jar?
#591 [03:58] <Wug> they're all ambiguous methods, which take large amounts of brainpower to solve correctly
#592 [03:58] <Wug> mammy :3
#593 [03:58] <Wug> mabby*
#594 [03:58] <didi> ok so:
#595 [03:58] <NotiCon> sounds fun
#596 [03:58] <didi> it seems sp and mp it's both around 6-9 fps
#597 [03:58] <NotiCon> to bad i dont have time to join you
#598 [03:58] <didi> it feels choppier online at times though
#599 [03:58] <Kealper> didi: oh my...
#600 [03:59] <didi> :(
#601 [03:59] <Wug> didi - theres probably not much we can do about that
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#603 [03:59] <Wug> have you tried linux?
#604 [03:59] <didi> for server?
#605 [03:59] <Kealper> didi: did you change the graphics settings at all? or are they the defaults?
#606 [03:59] <didi> i set them all lowest :(
#607 [03:59] <Wug> the linux drivers for integrated intel chips are typically better than the proprietary ones
#608 [03:59] <Kealper> with smooth lighting turned off?
#609 [03:59] <Wug> so you may have better graphical performance if you tried linux
#610 [03:59] <didi> i suppose - everythign i can access from the in-game video settings
#611 [03:59] <Wug> ?? ubuntu
#612 [03:59] <Wug> FFUUUU
#613 [04:00] <NotiCon> you broke it
#614 [04:00] <didi> i also ahve something else that's weird:
#615 [04:00] <Kealper> i probably broke it from earlier
#616 [04:00] <didi> when F3 is activated, i have redness growing on the screen from the left and from the bottom, slowly filling up everything
#617 [04:00] <didi> covering up text and gfx and everything...
#618 [04:01] <didi> it goes away when i go out of F3, but continues growing from where it left off when i return to F3
#619 [04:01] <Kealper> yeah that means something is seriously underpowered :/
#620 [04:01] <didi> is that a familiar thing?
#621 [04:01] <Kealper> is it one of those little super tiny laptops?
#622 [04:01] <Wug> thats normal
#623 [04:01] <didi> nah, not a netbook
#624 [04:01] <didi> but a 3.5year old toshiba laptop
#625 [04:01] <Wug> each red line is the time required to render each frame
#626 [04:01] <Wug> so longer time == longer red bars
#627 [04:02] * Wug goes back to coding
#627 [04:02] <didi> lol
#628 [04:02] <Wug> if you want a solution, try linux, or get a newer laptop
#629 [04:02] <didi> but why does it grow?
#630 [04:02] <didi> yeah i'm planning on getting a new one
#631 [04:02] <Kealper> i think didi is talking about the other meter that does not normally show itself unless the graphics card is SUPER slow
#632 [04:03] <Kealper> i'm actually not even sure what it measures, i just know it's there and seems to get taller the slower the rendering is
#633 [04:03] <didi> it doesn't hold any data. it just grows
#634 [04:04] <didi> if i were to wait like 3 mins, the entire screen would be solid red
#635 [04:05] <Kealper> well anyways, it sounds like your laptop just doesn't have enough power to really play the game... :/
#636 [04:06] <Kealper> well....play it without lag
#637 [04:06] <didi> oh wellllll
#638 [04:06] <Kealper> and since it's a laptop, there is no cheap solution to just upgrade it a bit to work
#639 [04:06] <didi> i have a desktop i could try
#640 [04:06] <didi> but its specs are even worse! haha
#641 [04:06] <Kealper> lol
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#643 [04:07] <lemon-rev> didi its cheep to upgrade your desktop
#644 [04:07] <lemon-rev> :P
#645 [04:07] <Kealper> anywho...i'm off to bed now
#646 [04:07] <lemon-rev> nn kealper
#647 [04:07] <Kealper> good luck on the digging, Wug lol
#648 [04:07] * Kealper waves to all _o/
#648 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> Laters Kealper
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#654 [04:17] <LargePrime> dammit
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#656 [04:17] <LargePrime> I wanted to ask about a counter
#657 [04:17] <LargePrime> lol
#658 [04:18] <LargePrime> well
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#661 [04:20] <LargePrime> lady grey
#662 [04:21] <mib_ol3mdw> hey all...can anyone help me out....when I start minecraft and click on a save to load ...it doesn't load anything and after about 10 seconds closes minecraft
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#667 [04:39] <TerraNova> Is there a way for someone to check why i was banned from a server irc?
#668 [04:40] <NotiCon> from an irc server?
#669 [04:41] <TerraNova> like the server has irc
#670 [04:42] <TerraNova> the channel is #server
#671 [04:43] <NotiCon> that could either because the network dont want ppl to use that channel or those that have that channel dont want ppl with your host joining
#672 [04:43] <TerraNova> nvm
#673 [04:43] <TerraNova> i got back in
#674 [04:43] <NotiCon> or sometimes its cause they only want ppl thats registered with nickserv
#675 [04:43] <TerraNova> thajs
#676 [04:43] <TerraNova> thanks
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#680 [04:49] <LargePrime> i crashed
#681 [04:49] <LargePrime> brb
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#684 [05:10] <ho0dlum> hi
#685 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#687 [05:14] <ho0dlum> Can anyone tell me how to install/use multiworlds on a bukkit server ?
#688 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> You may be able to get more help in #bukkit
#689 [05:14] <ho0dlum> I'll try that thanks
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#696 [05:35] <Alf> #help
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#698 [05:38] <Slakker> Hey, can anyone tell me if there's any MC Tutorial Servers so I can login and have hands on help learning how to setup Redstone Circuits?
#699 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope. You may want to try just giving yourself redstone in single player with invedit/single player commands/or whatever mods
#700 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> And either consulting the wiki for redstone circuitry help, or youtube
#701 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> If you have some particular redstone question, we could help you here.
#702 [05:41] <Slakker> I have redstone but trying to learn how to use it and the tutorial videos are helpful but I'd do better if someone "Showed" me
#703 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> Well, got something specific that we might help you with?
#704 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> If you gave me an idea of what you really want to accomplish, I could help.
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#706 [05:43] <Slakker> hehe.. I'm bad enough trying to get this with watching videos.. I'm sure I'd be worse in reading your descriptions.. but thanks anyway.. My questions are probably not very complicated to you, but your answers would be complicated to me.
#707 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Well, I can throw up a server, just for questions, if you need me to show/explain something
#708 [05:44] <Slakker> a server I can login to and you and me go through a 'hands on' tutorial?
#709 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Sure, if you want.
#710 [05:44] <Slakker> wow
#711 [05:44] <Slakker> uh.. yeah.. that would be awesome. :)
#712 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> Alright, um.
#713 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> Fire up your client, and connect to:
#714 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> greyvulpine.dyndns.org
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#718 [05:55] <Kouken> Help
#719 [05:56] <Kouken> It's not working
#720 [05:56] <Kouken> I tried to get it to work
#721 [05:56] <Kouken> Exaclty
#722 [05:58] <NotiCon> O_o?
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#729 [06:42] <MinecrafterII> Hi everyone
#730 [06:44] <MinecrafterII> Just a quick question about servers, is it possible to set up a server on a LAN network, or does it have to be online?
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#733 [06:48] <NotiCon> online
#734 [06:48] <MinecrafterII> ok, thanks
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#736 [07:11] <Thoatt|busy> hmm...
#737 [07:11] <Thoatt|busy> I suppose I'll be busy and broadcast at the same time lol
#738 [07:13] <NotiCon> what you broadcasting?
#739 [07:14] <Thoatt|busy> me being bored coding a website and some music lol
#740 [07:14] <Thoatt|busy> if I can get it working..
#741 [07:17] <NotiCon> oh gl with that
#742 [07:17] <Thoatt|busy> lol
#743 [07:17] <NotiCon> im just coding some linux device drivers and stuff
#744 [07:17] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#745 [07:17] <NotiCon> well trying
#746 [07:17] <NotiCon> cba to make stuff
#747 [07:18] <NotiCon> already made it work now i just need to make the stuff that uses the driver to smth
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#749 [07:18] <mib_vis8er> can someone help me/
#750 [07:18] <mib_vis8er> ?*
#751 [07:18] <NotiCon> depends on what your problem is
#752 [07:19] <mib_vis8er> have you heard of the java virtual machine error?
#753 [07:19] <NotiCon> which one of them?
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#755 [07:19] <Thoatt|busy> I can't get my broadcaster to go to my main monitor ._.
#756 [07:19] <Thoatt|busy> so stupid..
#757 [07:19] <mib_vis8er> what do you mean which one?
#758 [07:19] <Thoatt|busy> What exactly is the error.
#759 [07:20] <NotiCon> most errors have a number attached to them
#760 [07:20] <mib_vis8er> when i try to start up minecraft it says cannot create the java virtual machine
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#762 [07:21] <Thoatt|busy> ??> mib_vis8er win/reinst
#763 [07:21] <VoxelHead> mib_vis8er: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#764 [07:21] <VoxelHead> mib_vis8er: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#765 [07:22] <mib_vis8er> thanks :)
#766 [07:22] <mib_vis8er> ill try it right now and get back to you.
#767 [07:23] <Thoatt|busy> aight cool.. got it lol
#768 [07:23] <Thoatt|busy> http://www.livestream.com/thoatt
#769 [07:23] <Thoatt|busy> if anyone is REALLY bored. lol
#770 [07:30] <NotiCon> Thoatt|busy: awesome bored work
#771 [07:31] <NotiCon> Thoatt|busy: what tool you using?
#772 [07:31] <Thoatt|busy> Livestream Procaster
#773 [07:32] <NotiCon> i ment for coding
#774 [07:32] <Thoatt|busy> wait... for roadcasting? or coding? lol
#775 [07:32] <Thoatt|busy> Oh.. lol
#776 [07:32] <Thoatt|busy> Noptepadd++
#777 [07:32] <Thoatt|busy> -d
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#779 [07:32] <Thoatt|busy> and if I have to do actual design
#780 [07:32] <Thoatt|busy> This xD
#781 [07:32] <Thoatt|busy> But I like doing it oldschool :)
#782 [07:32] <NotiCon> oic
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#784 [07:35] <Thoatt|busy> And if you are wondering, lol, I'm jsut working on the layout atm
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#786 [07:36] <NotiCon> nah better get back to project stuff
#787 [07:36] <Thoatt|busy> xD
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#789 [07:45] <eskan78> need to stress up my test server to test my bandwith/hardware capabilities if anyone can spare a couple of min and join: eskah.no-ip.org and do somme random stuff arround tat will be apreciated thanks (whitelist is curently off)
#790 [07:45] <eskan78> feedback on lag issue if there is anny will be appreciated too
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#792 [07:49] <NotiCon> well that isnt even possible
#793 [07:52] <NotiCon> sadly he quit
#794 [07:56] <NotiCon> !check eskah.no-ip.org
#795 [07:56] <NotiCon> oh damn its just me then
#796 [07:57] <NotiCon> gotta love being behind some great firewall/proxy
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#799 [08:02] <eskah78> need some help testing my server if u can spare a couple of min plesae join eskah.no-ip.org and do some random stuff arround
#800 [08:03] <eskah78> feedback on lag will be appreciated
#801 [08:03] <Thoatt|busy> You can watch me do my part at: http://www.livestream.com/thoatt
#802 [08:03] <Thoatt|busy> Random music! yay!
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#806 [08:06] <NotiCon> Thoatt|busy: what you gonna blow up?
#807 [08:06] <Thoatt|busy> shhhh lol
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#809 [08:07] <NotiCon> oh i see
#810 [08:07] <Thoatt|busy> tress testing :D
#811 [08:08] <Thoatt|busy> well then... lol
#812 [08:08] <NotiCon> awesome
#813 [08:10] <NotiCon> you didnt use enough tnt
#814 [08:10] <NotiCon> nurf said
#815 [08:10] <Thoatt|busy> lol
#816 [08:10] <Thoatt|busy> I know xD
#817 [08:10] <Thoatt|busy> needed at LEAST 10000
#818 [08:10] <NotiCon> time to double the amount!
#819 [08:10] <Thoatt|busy> now... back to what I'm supposed to be doing lol
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#821 [08:11] <awesomeguy> hey guys
#822 [08:11] <awesomeguy> can sum1 plz test my server for whitelist
#823 [08:11] * Thoatt|busy waves
#823 [08:11] <Thoatt|busy> sure
#824 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#825 [08:12] <Thoatt|busy> I'm not busy (<-- that's a lie)
#826 [08:12] <awesomeguy> the host is twowords.dyndns.org
#827 [08:12] <awesomeguy> ty
#828 [08:12] <Thoatt|busy> wait...
#829 [08:12] <Thoatt|busy> Why do you like..
#830 [08:12] <Thoatt|busy> lol
#831 [08:12] <Thoatt|busy> I've helped you whitelist test before :/
#832 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not able to connect
#833 [08:12] <Thoatt|busy> same
#834 [08:12] <awesomeguy> ty
#835 [08:13] <Thoatt|busy> much crap on my screen ._.
#836 [08:13] <NotiCon> silly
#837 [08:13] <NotiCon> get more screens
#838 [08:13] <Thoatt|busy> I have more screen lol
#839 [08:13] * NotiCon used 8 screens today
#839 [08:13] <Thoatt|busy> screens*
#840 [08:13] <NotiCon> ctrl+alt+arrows is awesome
#841 [08:14] <Thoatt|busy> procaster HATES it though
#842 [08:14] <Thoatt|busy> see? lol
#843 [08:14] <Thoatt|busy> nvm... woked that time... interesting
#844 [08:15] <Thoatt|busy> time to move stuff around :D
#845 [08:15] <Thoatt|busy> http://i.imgur.com/GNAT0.png
#846 [08:15] <Thoatt|busy> lol
#847 [08:16] * Thoatt|busy needs even more screens ._.
#847 [08:17] <Thoatt|busy> poop...
#848 [08:17] <Thoatt|busy> lol
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#850 [08:20] <reallycoolguy> hey guys
#851 [08:20] <reallycoolguy> could u plz test my server again
#852 [08:20] * Thoatt|busy waves
#852 [08:21] <Thoatt|busy> >.>
#853 [08:21] <reallycoolguy> at the host twowords.dyndns.org
#854 [08:21] <reallycoolguy> sorry
#855 [08:21] <reallycoolguy> i think it works now
#856 [08:21] <reallycoolguy> that would be awesome
#857 [08:21] <Thoatt|busy> I'm kinda busy lol
#858 [08:21] <reallycoolguy> well can sum1 plz
#859 [08:21] <reallycoolguy> it will onyl take a second
#860 [08:21] <reallycoolguy> it should say not whitelisted
#861 [08:22] <Thoatt|busy> It
#862 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> Got "Not whitelisted" here
#863 [08:22] <Thoatt|busy> It's said the same every single time we've tried to connect....
#864 [08:22] <Thoatt|busy> I got a timeout
#865 [08:22] <reallycoolguy> ty
#866 [08:22] <Thoatt|busy> twice now.
#867 [08:24] <reallycoolguy> sorry i just wanted it to work
#868 [08:24] <reallycoolguy> ty
#869 [08:24] <Thoatt|busy> :/
#870 [08:27] <reallycoolguy> can any1 else try?
#871 [08:35] <eskah78> got a timed out here
#872 [08:35] <NotiCon> no not able to connect to it
#873 [08:35] <Thoatt|busy> same here
#874 [08:36] <Thoatt|busy> same still lol
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#876 [08:42] <Thoatt|busy> gah...
#877 [08:42] <Thoatt|busy> dw... Y U NO USE TABS INSTEAD OF SPACES...
#878 [08:42] <Thoatt|busy> *sigh*
#879 [08:43] <NotiCon> tabs > spaces o:
#880 [08:43] <Thoatt|busy> DW converts tabs to spaces >:(
#881 [08:44] <NotiCon> ah
#882 [08:46] <Slakker> GreyVulpine> Thanks for the help. I copied the screenshot and my door is working on both sides now. :)
#883 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> Neat
#884 [08:48] <Thoatt|busy> bleh lol
#885 [08:48] <Thoatt|busy> I really don't want to work on the content of this site :S
#886 [08:49] <Slakker> yeah, I'm a bit shocked that it worked.. but it does. WOuld be nice if I understood why its working but maybe I will in time
#887 [08:49] <Floris> stupid dreamweaver :D
#888 [08:50] <Thoatt|busy> Notepad++ ftw xD
#889 [08:50] <Floris> i only use dreamweaver for the webdav interface to the online framework of the template, so i dont have to edit the html5 templates from the /admin/ area.
#890 [08:50] <Thoatt|busy> xP
#891 [08:50] <Floris> on windows i'd use ultraedit, but that was 5+ years ago, on the mac i use textmate usually.
#892 [08:50] <Floris> notepad++ is great product.
#893 [08:50] <Thoatt|busy> I onlt use it for the syntax hilighting when I can't think of what css property I want lol
#894 [08:50] <Thoatt|busy> Like... listerally that's all I use it for lol
#895 [08:50] <Thoatt|busy> -s
#896 [08:50] <Floris> <3 css
#897 [08:50] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#898 [08:51] <Thoatt|busy> CSS3+HTML5 ftw
#899 [08:51] <Floris> mycoffeecupisempty.com is what i made, little test to write a site in html5/css3 while having a cup of coffee. hehe
#900 [08:51] <Thoatt|busy> Like my awesomely fail site that I made? http://bluewatergaming.net/
#901 [08:51] <Thoatt|busy> ooooo.. me likey :D
#902 [08:51] <Floris> not too bad on the bwg net site too.
#903 [08:52] <Thoatt|busy> I made it when I started actually getting into html5 lol
#904 [08:52] <Thoatt|busy> last year :/
#905 [08:52] <Floris> i should spend another cup of coffee to finish the features and then another cup on making it more logical to use.
#906 [08:52] <Slakker> damn, does the text on that site require 3D glasses? LOL.. blurry..
#907 [08:52] <Thoatt|busy> There is also my really bland css3/html5 site here as well: http://thoatt.com/
#908 [08:52] <Thoatt|busy> Slakker: ujelly? xD
#909 [08:53] <Floris> Slakker ; use a real browser :D
#910 [08:53] <Slakker> like which one?
#911 [08:53] <Floris> thoatt, nice site :D
#912 [08:53] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#913 [08:53] <Slakker> more real than IE8
#914 [08:53] <Thoatt|busy> thanks xD
#915 [08:53] <Thoatt|busy> IE9/Fx4.0/chrome/lynx
#916 [08:54] <Thoatt|busy> lynx fuh tuh wuh
#917 [08:54] <Floris> lynx <3
#918 [08:54] <Floris> and its brother wget, nomnom
#919 [08:54] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#920 [08:54] <Thoatt|busy> Floris: right now, I'm working on re-doing this abomination: http://www.qsl.net/arcars/
#921 [08:54] <Floris> i run wget in --debug, so i can see it fly by on the screen, like the matrix or csi las vegas
#922 [08:54] <Floris> hahahaa
#923 [08:54] <Thoatt|busy> I'm working on the layout atm lol
#924 [08:55] <Floris> omg yellow
#925 [08:55] <Floris> (closes whole browser)
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#927 [08:55] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#928 [08:55] <Floris> my latest site is xenfans.com
#929 [08:55] <Floris> runs html5/css3 forum 'xenforo'
#930 [08:55] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#931 [08:55] <Thoatt|busy> very nice
#932 [08:56] <Floris> if notch wants a license ill donate it, i would actually start using his forum instead of the one he's running his forum on now.
#933 [08:56] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#934 [08:56] <Thoatt|busy> hey Floris, if you're super bored you can watch me working on the replacement for that arcars site and listen to some tunes :)
#935 [08:57] <Floris> im building a php interface to some minecraft server stats. lol
#936 [08:57] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#937 [08:57] <Thoatt|busy> php xD
#938 [08:58] <Floris> the dedicated box runs 32bit ubuntu8, i really need to shutdown -r so it finishes the upgrade to 64bit u10
#939 [08:58] <Thoatt|busy> I wish I could php-ify the replacement.. but I want to make it really server-independant
#940 [08:58] <Floris> but .. but .. the uptime :(
#941 [08:58] <Thoatt|busy> lool
#942 [08:58] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#943 [08:58] * Thoatt|busy checks uptime here
#943 [08:58] <Thoatt|busy> 08:57:53 up 469 days, 6:56, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
#944 [08:58] <Thoatt|busy> lol
#945 [08:58] <Floris> root@mrfloris:~# w
#946 [08:58] <Floris> 14:58:37 up 285 days, 14:24, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.15, 0.10
#947 [08:58] <Floris> im waiting for 300, before i reboot.
#948 [08:58] <Thoatt|busy> :P
#949 [08:58] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#950 [08:59] <Thoatt|busy> I got you beat by a bit lol
#951 [08:59] <Floris> we had a fire at leaseweb and the backup diesel engine didn't turn on for some reason..
#952 [08:59] <Thoatt|busy> but to be fair, this is an actual website/shoutcast hosting business server lol
#953 [08:59] <Thoatt|busy> o.O
#954 [08:59] <Thoatt|busy> that sucks :/
#955 [08:59] <Floris> so yeah went down eh 285 days ago lol
#956 [08:59] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#957 [09:00] <Thoatt|busy> hmmm... what to do...
#958 [09:00] <Floris> i dont do control panels and such, its just a cheap simple u8 server box with few gigs ram and xeon quad cpu, and running 50+ web sites, of which 4 busy ones.
#959 [09:00] <Thoatt|busy> noice
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#961 [09:01] <Floris> but i really need to upgrade it etc.
#962 [09:01] <Floris> run minecraft on it or something hehe
#963 [09:01] <Thoatt|busy> yeah I understand lol
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#965 [09:01] <Thoatt|busy> I suppose I'll work on some images.. since there are none for this thing yet lol
#966 [09:02] <Floris> photoshop cs 5.5 announced i think.
#967 [09:02] <Florian> Hey guys, I got a question, anyone there?
#968 [09:02] <Floris> now with $130/month subscription model, for those who cn't pay the $2500
#969 [09:02] <Floris> lol
#970 [09:02] <Floris> hey Florian, what's the question
#971 [09:02] <Thoatt|busy> ??> Florian ask
#972 [09:02] <VoxelHead> Florian: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#973 [09:02] <VoxelHead> Florian: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#974 [09:02] <Thoatt|busy> :)
#975 [09:03] <Florian> Alright, well basically I just bought/downloaded minecraft, and I'd like to set up my own server
#976 [09:03] <Florian> like, not publically
#977 [09:03] <Florian> but for my friends to use.
#978 [09:03] <NotiCon> whitelist
#979 [09:03] <Floris> whitelist the friends, ban everybody else
#980 [09:03] <Florian> The problem is, when I join (localhost)
#981 [09:03] <Florian> there's like
#982 [09:03] <Florian> nothing
#983 [09:03] <Florian> void
#984 [09:03] <Florian> so I presume the level file isn't loading or something
#985 [09:03] <Florian> How do I add my own level to the server?
#986 [09:04] <Thoatt|busy> copy your world from SP to the world/ directory
#987 [09:04] <Florian> How do I do that?
#988 [09:04] <Florian> Also, there is no world directory, all I downloaded was a single minecraft.exe file
#989 [09:04] <Florian> and it works
#990 [09:04] <Florian> somehow.
#991 [09:05] <NotiCon> Florian: you downloaded the minecraft-server.jar too?
#992 [09:05] <Thoatt|busy> run the exe, does it generate more files?
#993 [09:05] <Florian> Yeah I did
#994 [09:05] <Florian> I have the other files in a separate folder
#995 [09:05] <NotiCon> windows or linux or mc?
#996 [09:05] <NotiCon> mac*
#997 [09:05] <Florian> Windows
#998 [09:06] <NotiCon> in %appdata%/.minecraft there should be a folder called saves or then its in %appdata%/Roaming/.minecraft or there abouts
#999 [09:06] <Florian> Alright, so I found this world folder
#1000 [09:06] <Thoatt|busy> no roaming
#1001 [09:06] <Florian> ok, do I simply add the level.dat to the server folder?
#1002 [09:06] <Thoatt|busy> %appdata%/.minecraft/
#1003 [09:06] <Florian> ok
#1004 [09:06] <Thoatt|busy> no, the whole folder
#1005 [09:07] * Thoatt|busy sipsDiet Mtn Dw
#1005 [09:07] <Florian> Oh, the whole world folder?
#1006 [09:07] <Thoatt|busy> Dew*
#1007 [09:07] <Thoatt|busy> :)
#1008 [09:07] <Thoatt|busy> yep
#1009 [09:07] <Thoatt|busy> The whole thing
#1010 [09:07] <Florian> Hold on guys, lemme try, is it ok if I stay on for a while
#1011 [09:07] <Florian> just to check.
#1012 [09:07] <Thoatt|busy> yes? lol
#1013 [09:08] <Florian> Awesome.
#1014 [09:08] <NotiCon> Thoatt|busy: i kinda wanted to say no :/
#1015 [09:08] <Thoatt|busy> oh NotiCon, be nice :P
#1016 [09:11] <NotiCon> so speaking of minecraft. any easy way to figure out what light level there is?
#1017 [09:11] <Florian> I think luminosity decreases by one each block
#1018 [09:12] <Florian> from the source of the light
#1019 [09:12] <Florian> so
#1020 [09:12] <Florian> it didn't work, I'll try something else, hold on.
#1021 [09:12] <NotiCon> eh?
#1022 [09:17] <Floris> Thoatt|busy : is there an iOS minecraft yet?
#1023 [09:17] <Thoatt|busy> Not a legit one
#1024 [09:17] <Thoatt|busy> there is a crappy ripoff though
#1025 [09:17] <Thoatt|busy> for 1.99 iirc
#1026 [09:17] <Florian> so I deleted like everything
#1027 [09:17] <Florian> and
#1028 [09:18] <Florian> downloaded minecraft
#1029 [09:18] <Florian> and for some reason, I run it, and it's just the exe
#1030 [09:18] <Thoatt|busy> Is the folder read-only?
#1031 [09:19] <Florian> I don't know
#1032 [09:19] <Florian> hold on
#1033 [09:19] <Florian> forced an update
#1034 [09:19] <Florian> and it downloaded packages
#1035 [09:19] <Florian> but I don't know where they are.
#1036 [09:19] <Thoatt|busy> minecraft? or the server?
#1037 [09:20] <Florian> minecraft
#1038 [09:20] <Thoatt|busy> The server files will be wherever the minecraft_server.exe is
#1039 [09:20] <Florian> I deleted everything else
#1040 [09:20] <Thoatt|busy> You said server...
#1041 [09:20] <Florian> I didn't?
#1042 [09:20] <Florian> Anyway, minecraft.exe
#1043 [09:20] <Florian> there's only this one file.
#1044 [09:20] <Thoatt|busy> 09:02:21 <Florian> Alright, well basically I just bought/downloaded minecraft, and I'd like to set up my own server
#1045 [09:20] <Florian> Yes, now I'm talking about minecraft.
#1046 [09:20] <Thoatt|busy> I thought you were trying to set up a server...
#1047 [09:20] <Thoatt|busy> *sigh*
#1048 [09:20] <Florian> Look.
#1049 [09:21] * Thoatt|busy walks away
#1049 [09:21] <Florian> I deleted my previous "installation"
#1050 [09:21] <Florian> and re-downloaded minecraft.
#1051 [09:21] <Florian> NOW.
#1052 [09:21] <Florian> there's only an executable.
#1053 [09:21] <Thoatt|busy> get the the point... What's the issue?
#1054 [09:21] <Florian> I need folders?
#1055 [09:21] <Florian> In order to run the server?
#1056 [09:21] <Thoatt|busy> for what?
#1057 [09:21] <Thoatt|busy> No.
#1058 [09:21] <Thoatt|busy> You need to download the SERVER exe
#1059 [09:21] <Thoatt|busy> then run that
#1060 [09:21] <Florian> I have it
#1061 [09:22] <Florian> I have a bat file
#1062 [09:22] <Florian> and a jar file
#1063 [09:22] <Thoatt|busy> run the bat file...
#1064 [09:22] <Thoatt|busy> the jar file should generate a folder and some files
#1065 [09:22] <Thoatt|busy> in the same directory of the jar
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#1067 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. are you running classic or beta?
#1068 [09:23] <Florian> beta
#1069 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> The classic one has a .bat file
#1070 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> the beta, doesn't
#1071 [09:23] <Florian> oh
#1072 [09:23] <Florian> so I must have downloaded the wrong server file
#1073 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> The download for the beta server can be found here
#1074 [09:23] <Thoatt|busy> It has a .bat file if you make one... lol
#1075 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1076 [09:23] * GreyVulpine baps Thoatt|busy
#1076 [09:23] <NicEXE> I am on OSX 10.6.7 and every time I try to click the multiplayer link (the online not the offline jar) the applet seems to load then member:it asks me if I permit this to run from <always a different subdomain> then I click to run and nothing appears just a member:blank box in the middle of the web page
#1077 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#1078 [09:23] <NicEXE> I tried using chrome, firefox and safari
#1079 [09:23] <Thoatt|busy> Stop being helpful! lol
#1080 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1081 [09:24] <NicEXE> offline jar works like member:it should but when member:it comes to clicking to a link from the server list on minecraft.net member:it goes to the web thing instead of the offline
#1082 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1083 [09:24] <Floris> why not just run the minecraft.app ?
#1084 [09:24] <Florian> Good
#1085 [09:24] <Floris> why run the .jar file?
#1086 [09:24] <Floris> ( nicexe )
#1087 [09:24] <Florian> so what do I do now? I run the server, but it generates no level
#1088 [09:24] <NicEXE> clicking a server from the server list will take me to the online applet
#1089 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> When you run the server, it does generate a level
#1090 [09:25] <NicEXE> if I had the address i could be satisfied with just the jar
#1091 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> The problem is most likely a firewall/nic issue
#1092 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> Check your security software, if you have any
#1093 [09:25] <NicEXE> Floris; Minecraft.app?
#1094 [09:26] <Floris> minecraft.net > downloads > mac version > run that > multiplayer, done ?
#1095 [09:26] <Floris> or you talking about running a server ?
#1096 [09:26] <Floris> the nogui setup?
#1097 [09:26] <Florian> ok now when I type in localhost and try to connect it tells me bad login
#1098 [09:26] <Florian> it never did that before.
#1099 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch your minecraft client Florian
#1100 [09:26] <Florian> ok
#1101 [09:26] <NicEXE> oh yes. I was wrong. what I ment was the minecraft.app instead of the jar
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#1105 [09:29] <Florian> level generated, it just lags like hell
#1106 [09:29] <Florian> apparently it's still generating even though it says it's done
#1107 [09:30] <NotiCon> Florian: thats cause if you move away from the part it already made it have to generate some more
#1108 [09:30] <Florian> I didn't move
#1109 [09:30] <NicEXE> so does anyone knows how the inbrowser minecraft can work on mac?
#1110 [09:34] <Florian> Anyone?
#1111 [09:34] <NicEXE> is there a way to find out the address on a server displayed in the server list on minecraft.net so that I can manually enter the address on minecraft.app?
#1112 [09:34] <Florian> I join and it gives me huge lag.
#1113 [09:34] <Thoatt|busy> hmmm......
#1114 [09:35] <Thoatt|busy> I suppose I'll upload this now lol
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#1116 [09:36] <Florian> it's like I fll through the ground right into the void
#1117 [09:36] <Florian> plus huge lag
#1118 [09:36] <Thoatt|busy> k... auto-upload is enabled :D
#1119 [09:36] <Florian> server says memory use: 45 mb, 45% free
#1120 [09:36] <Thoatt|busy> watch the crappy site take shape!
#1121 [09:36] <Thoatt|busy> http://thoatt.com/arcars/
#1122 [09:36] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#1123 [09:37] <NicEXE> is there anyone that uses minecraft on a mac? does it run as it should?
#1124 [09:37] <Thoatt|busy> Yes there are plenty of people that do it, and it works fine for almost everyone :D
#1125 [09:38] <NicEXE> minecraft.app worsk for me too. what about the inbrowser applet?
#1126 [09:38] <NicEXE> *works
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#1128 [09:41] <CalypsoLTS> Good morning everyone
#1129 [09:41] * Thoatt|busy waves
#1129 [09:41] <NotiCon> trees are odd
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#1132 [09:42] <NicEXE> minecraft.app works but if I choose one of the servers on that list http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp the inbrowser minecraft is popping out. inbrowser minecraft does not work for me at all.
#1133 [09:43] <NicEXE> so I have 2 options: 1. make inbrowser minecraft work 2. find the address of the server and enter it manually on minecraft.app
#1134 [09:44] <luckz> I don't know anybody who plays online via some crazy browser version of the game
#1135 [09:44] <NicEXE> so how does anybody plays on any of those servers? http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#1136 [09:45] <Thoatt|busy> Some people do lol
#1137 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> All those are classic servers
#1138 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.app is a beta client
#1139 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> You can't use a beta client to connect to classic servers
#1140 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> There is no master list of beta servers
#1141 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> however...
#1142 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1143 [09:46] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1144 [09:46] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1145 [09:47] <NicEXE> thanks. I finally got a reasonable answer
#1146 [09:50] <Thoatt|busy> We don't specialize in reasonable... We specialize in sarcasm, ineptitude, redundancy, and sarcasm.
#1147 [09:52] * GreyVulpine baps NicEXE
#1147 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> er
#1148 [09:52] * GreyVulpine baps Thoatt|busy
#1148 [09:53] <Thoatt|busy> eh?
#1149 [09:53] <Thoatt|busy> :P
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#1160 [10:12] <Jonis> Hello all
#1161 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1162 [10:12] <Jonis> was wondering if I could get some help with minecraft.
#1163 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#1164 [10:13] <Jonis> well, when my bro tries to open the .exe from his desktop he says nothing happend at all
#1165 [10:13] <Jonis> he has Windows 7 64 bit
#1166 [10:14] <Thoatt|busy> Does he have Java installed?
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#1168 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Could he try downloading the .jar, and executing it via the command prompt?
#1169 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> If there's any errors, it'll show up there
#1170 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com the error to us, if one shows up
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#1172 [10:15] <Jonis> he has updated his vid drivers and re-installed Java... He has also has tried to make sure it's not trying to open with OpenGL but cannot find a setting for that on his laptop.
#1173 [10:15] <Jonis> k one sec
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#1175 [10:16] <TheBix> so do any of you play online a lot?
#1176 [10:16] <FSSO> hey guys i need some help
#1177 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> FSSO - With?
#1178 [10:17] <FSSO> i frequent a server at par0noid.info:25565
#1179 [10:17] <FSSO> and everytime i try to connect i get "connection refused: connect"
#1180 [10:17] <FSSO> and before i restarted my computer to get that
#1181 [10:17] <Thoatt|busy> FSSO: Can you connect to other servers?
#1182 [10:17] <FSSO> it said end of stream
#1183 [10:17] <FSSO> i havent tried it
#1184 [10:18] <FSSO> i emailed the the host to ask if im banned but i highly doubt i am as i have good rep on there
#1185 [10:18] <FSSO> and i never grief
#1186 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> The end of stream, is a network problem
#1187 [10:18] <FSSO> oh k
#1188 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> Either because of your NIC, or the server's
#1189 [10:18] <FSSO> yeah i just looked both up now
#1190 [10:19] <FSSO> and both searches bring up stuff about servers being down or un-updated and there is supposed to be an update this week
#1191 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> Could you look up the brand/model of your NIC? Atheros NICs are notoriously famous for this on minecraft
#1192 [10:19] <FSSO> NIC?
#1193 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> network card
#1194 [10:19] <FSSO> kk
#1195 [10:19] <FSSO> ive got a dell inspiron and im not paticularly tech savvy but ill look it up
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#1197 [10:22] <FSSO> ok grey
#1198 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah?
#1199 [10:23] <FSSO> i THINK my network card is a Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini Card
#1200 [10:23] <FSSO> if that is a network card lol i have no idea
#1201 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's it..
#1202 [10:24] <FSSO> is that an atheros one?
#1203 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#1204 [10:25] <FSSO> oh
#1205 [10:25] <FSSO> well i guess ill just wait on that email
#1206 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> I'd try updating the drivers for that, if it still does it, then try a different server
#1207 [10:25] <FSSO> know any good servers?
#1208 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> If it still does it, then it's minecraft itself
#1209 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Um.
#1210 [10:26] <FSSO> for me to try
#1211 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> smp.shadow-craft.net
#1212 [10:26] <FSSO> i got linked to one by a friend but it hasnt been active for like a week
#1213 [10:26] <FSSO> ok ill try that one
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#1215 [10:27] <FSSO> im in
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#1217 [10:28] <FSSO> which means the par0noid problem is likely the server
#1218 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Probably.
#1219 [10:28] <FSSO> could someone try and connect to it for me, its par0noid.info:25565
#1220 [10:28] <FSSO> just to check it's not just me
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#1222 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Server doesn't appear to be up for me
#1223 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> !check par0noid.info
#1224 [10:31] <FSSO> kk
#1225 [10:31] <FSSO> whats 89.163.169.178? your server?
#1226 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> That's what par0noid.info translates to
#1227 [10:34] <Jonis> hey GreyVulpine
#1228 [10:34] <Jonis> he can get the .jar to open, but not the .exe
#1229 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> How is he launching the .jar?
#1230 [10:34] <FSSO> oh
#1231 [10:35] <FSSO> and what do you mean 'grim'?
#1232 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> That's just the bot reporting back that the server is down
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#1234 [10:36] <FSSO> oh
#1235 [10:36] <FSSO> my bad lol :P
#1236 [10:37] <Jonis> he double clicked it GreyVulpine
#1237 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Jonis - Hmm, I asked for launching it via command line..
#1238 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> But now, my question is now: How much RAM does he have on the system?
#1239 [10:38] <Jonis> uhm I think he has 4G on his laptop
#1240 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Can you check?
#1241 [10:38] <Jonis> sec;
#1242 [10:39] <Jonis> doh I think I know what it is... I just called him and he said he's ran the game previously
#1243 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1244 [10:40] <oldtopmanserver> What would the known problem be?
#1245 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> The known problem for launching the .exe, but the java process not launching.. is insufficient free RAM.
#1246 [10:41] <oldtopmanserver> Ah.
#1247 [10:41] <Jonis> he has 4 g of ram
#1248 [10:41] <FSSO> *brain melts from techno talk* :P
#1249 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Heh, techno.
#1250 [10:42] <FSSO> i know what java is etc
#1251 [10:42] <FSSO> just no idea how it all functions ^_^
#1252 [10:44] <Jonis> okay, so when he goes to open it from the command prompt he has to go to the containing folder and use this?: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1253 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Right
#1254 [10:47] <FSSO> Tanks for the help guys
#1255 [10:47] <FSSO> hope par0s server will get fixed :(
#1256 [10:47] <FSSO> cya later!
#1257 [10:47] * Thoatt|busy waves
#1257 [10:47] <Jonis> k he's workin on it now.
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#1260 [10:50] <Jonis> he said it said 'java is not a recognized internal or external command'
#1261 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Ugh
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#1263 [10:51] <Chanito> Hey guys, how do do i disable lava buckets and flint and steel?
#1264 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Chanito - With a modded server
#1265 [10:52] <Jonis> without the command line he can open the .jar in command prompt
#1266 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> Jonis - That means that java isn't in window's environment variables...
#1267 [10:53] <Jonis> okay, I have no idea what that means
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#1270 [10:58] <Thoatt|busy> bleh...
#1271 [10:58] <Thoatt|busy> stull not sure wha to add to this layout :/
#1272 [10:58] <Thoatt|busy> still*
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#1274 [10:59] <Thoatt|busy> I suppose I'll just get working on the ajax stuff then...
#1275 [10:59] * Thoatt|busy is bored lol
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#1276 [11:07] <Thoatt|busy> UNZ UNZ UNZ UNZ UNZ UNZ
#1277 [11:07] <Thoatt|busy> o\-<
#1278 [11:07] <Thoatt|busy> o|-<
#1279 [11:07] <Thoatt|busy> o/-<
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#1281 [11:07] <Siverale> Sup Jon
#1282 [11:08] <Jonis> Hey.
#1283 [11:08] <Jonis> Hey GreyVulpine, this is my brother.
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#1285 [11:09] <Thoatt|busy> He's not gonna pee on the rug is he? ._.
#1286 [11:10] <Siverale> Depends on how much i get paid
#1287 [11:10] <Thoatt|busy> No more than usual, bring the blindfold.
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#1289 [11:25] <Jonis> hey GreyVulpine, We've gotten farther and now he is getting an error in the command prompt
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#1291 [11:26] <Thoatt|busy> Jonis: pastebin the error pleae :)
#1292 [11:26] <Thoatt|busy> please*
#1293 [11:29] <Tinman> would this be the channel for redstone suggestions, or more like in minecraft was giving you problems?
#1294 [11:29] <Thoatt|busy> The latter.
#1295 [11:30] <Tinman> bugger, is there a channel for the former?
#1296 [11:30] <Thoatt|busy> Nein.
#1297 [11:30] <Thoatt|busy> lol
#1298 [11:30] <Thoatt|busy> I mean, you could suggest it here, but it'll probably never be seen by notch or jeb
#1299 [11:30] <Thoatt|busy> try his twitter though
#1300 [11:30] <Thoatt|busy> or getsatisfaction
#1301 [11:31] <Tinman> wait, i was unclear, not changes to the game. A specific help with what i am trying to do
#1302 [11:31] <Tinman> like a tutorial channel
#1303 [11:31] <Jonis> >> Error here: v
#1304 [11:31] <Jonis> http://pastebin.com/KmLCYxgs
#1305 [11:32] <Thoatt|busy> OH
#1306 [11:32] <Thoatt|busy> Then yes, you can ask those here :)
#1307 [11:32] <Thoatt|busy> Jonis:
#1308 [11:32] <Thoatt|busy> ??win/reinst
#1309 [11:32] <Thoatt|busy> ?? win/reinst
#1310 [11:32] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1311 [11:32] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1312 [11:33] <Tinman> do you guys have a specific map viewer you like to use? So I can share my map.
#1313 [11:34] <Thoatt|busy> Tinman: If you'd like to get help with a redstone project, I'm sure there are people here that can help, if you jsut want to learn about restone, there are hundreds of tutorials on youtube, etc.
#1314 [11:34] <Thoatt|busy> What do you mean mapviewer? Like a map renderer?
#1315 [11:35] <Tinman> like this sight: http://goo.gl/H0VLd
#1316 [11:35] <Thoatt|busy> That's Tectonicus
#1317 [11:35] <Thoatt|busy> well.. something similar to that
#1318 [11:35] <Tinman> i think the same, just hosted
#1319 [11:36] <Thoatt|busy> If you wanted just pictures, like this: http://kealper.com/mc/index2.html then use a tool called c10t
#1320 [11:37] <Kealper> url is not safe for dialup*
#1321 [11:37] <Thoatt|busy> Not at all lol
#1322 [11:37] <Tinman> sorry about that
#1323 [11:37] <Thoatt|busy> slightly less bandwidth: http://kealper.com/mc/bwgnormaldayoblia.png
#1324 [11:37] <Thoatt|busy> lol
#1325 [11:37] <Thoatt|busy> hey kealper...
#1326 [11:37] * Kealper rawrs
#1326 [11:37] * oldtopmanserver rawrs
#1326 [11:38] <Thoatt|busy> http://www.livestream.com/thoatt
#1327 [11:38] <Thoatt|busy> :P
#1328 [11:38] * Thoatt|busy is livestreaming music + coding
#1328 [11:38] <Kealper> wutcha makin'?
#1329 [11:38] <Thoatt|busy> workin on the arcars site
#1330 [11:38] <Kealper> oh lol
#1331 [11:38] <Thoatt|busy> 12kb total so far...
#1332 [11:38] <Thoatt|busy> and looks pretty decent. lol
#1333 [11:39] <Kealper> is someone just constantly refreshing those c10t image s or something >.>
#1334 [11:39] <Thoatt|busy> http://thoatt.com/arcars/
#1335 [11:39] <Kealper> images*
#1336 [11:39] <oldtopmanserver> Kealper: I have a script that auto-updates mine
#1337 [11:39] <Thoatt|busy> (that page is only 12 kb including images and all linked css etc)
#1338 [11:39] <Kealper> oldtopmanserver: mine are generated every 12 hours automatically lol
#1339 [11:39] <oldtopmanserver> Kealper: Once an hour for me
#1340 [11:39] <Kealper> Thoatt|busy: nice logo placeholder lol
#1341 [11:40] <Thoatt|busy> xD
#1342 [11:40] <Kealper> oldtopmanserver: my server isn't cool enough to need them every hour :/
#1343 [11:40] <Thoatt|busy> IT'S AN OMMMEEEEN
#1344 [11:40] <oldtopmanserver> Kealper: Every time you load my page, the players get lag though :/
#1345 [11:40] * Thoatt|busy headbangs
#1345 [11:40] <Thoatt|busy> rofl
#1346 [11:41] <oldtopmanserver> Kealper: Mind if I PM you?
#1347 [11:41] <Kealper> oldtopmanserver: mine lags too lol, my ssh is hella delayed right now....so i'm wondering of someone is just like...spamming the F5 button on that page >.>
#1348 [11:41] <Kealper> go for it lol
#1349 [11:42] <Kealper> Tinman: you arn't constantly refreshing the page because it's just gray, are you?
#1350 [11:42] <Kealper> if you get a gray page with seemingly nothing on it...scroll down and to the right, the images are huge
#1351 [11:46] <Jonis> okay so when he tried to delete the bin folder the whole .minecraft folder was empty
#1352 [11:46] <Thoatt|busy> ...
#1353 [11:46] <Thoatt|busy> hmm
#1354 [11:46] <Thoatt|busy> lol
#1355 [11:46] <Kealper> why is there bandwidth activity on my router's wireless....
#1356 [11:46] <Thoatt|busy> fail? lol
#1357 [11:47] <Thoatt|busy> your dad's laptop perhaps?
#1358 [11:47] <Morrolan> Your neighbours laptop?
#1359 [11:47] <jdcoolha> Some other device on your network
#1360 [11:47] <Kealper> possibly....hopefully...
#1361 [11:47] <Kealper> i don't normally have any wireless devices
#1362 [11:47] <jdcoolha> Or a background program
#1363 [11:47] <Morrolan> Just disable it and listen for people complaining that "their internet is not working anymore"
#1364 [11:48] <jdcoolha> Heh
#1365 [11:48] <Kealper> meh, source is a laptop
#1366 [11:48] <Kealper> i was about to just disable the radio on it lol
#1367 [11:49] <Thoatt|busy> gah.. finally lol
#1368 [11:49] <Thoatt|busy> <script type="text/javascript">
#1369 [11:49] <Thoatt|busy> ajaxpage('main.html', 'contentcolumn')
#1370 [11:49] <Thoatt|busy> </script>fucking rightclick...
#1371 [11:49] <Kealper> lol
#1372 [11:49] <Thoatt|busy> disregard me.
#1373 [11:50] <Kealper> Thoatt|busy: did you look at the mc map?
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#1375 [11:50] <Kealper> who walked in a random direction for like 4 miles >.>
#1376 [11:50] <Thoatt|busy> also, WinSCP + keep remote directory updated = 14 kinds of win
#1377 [11:50] <Thoatt|busy> Lol.. I did that like.... a LONG time ago lol
#1378 [11:50] <Kealper> directory? directiong*
#1379 [11:50] <Kealper> damnit
#1380 [11:51] <Thoatt|busy> huh? lol
#1381 [11:51] <Kealper> screw it, i'm off to get my community booklearnin'
#1382 [11:51] <Thoatt|busy> rofl.. hf
#1383 [11:51] <Kealper> direction is what i meant lol
#1384 [11:51] <Thoatt|busy> you SAID direction
#1385 [11:51] <Kealper> oh....shit
#1386 [11:51] <Thoatt|busy> rofl
#1387 [11:51] <Thoatt|busy> lol
#1388 [11:51] <Kealper> screw this, i'm out lol
#1389 [11:51] <Thoatt|busy> cya
#1390 [11:51] * Thoatt|busy waves
#1390 [11:52] <Thoatt|busy> This css files needs to be at least 500 more lines ._.
#1391 [11:52] <NotiCon> not enough
#1392 [11:52] <Thoatt|busy> '500 /more/' lines lol
#1393 [11:53] <NotiCon> give it another 750
#1394 [11:53] <Thoatt|busy> tIt'd be around 750 lines if I added another 500 lol
#1395 [11:53] <Thoatt|busy> -t
#1396 [11:54] <NotiCon> oh
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#1398 [12:02] <Thoatt|busy> 64 gigs of music and iTunes still plays the same song over within a few hours... *sigh*
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#1400 [12:03] <NotiCon> o:
#1401 [12:03] <xolotl> Thoatt|busy: http://xkcd.com/221/
#1402 [12:03] <Thoatt|busy> exactly...
#1403 [12:05] <Thoatt|busy> coding pages for money... sucks lol
#1404 [12:05] <Thoatt|busy> gotta make everything all... nice and whatnot.. lol
#1405 [12:06] <NotiCon> and you gotta make it what they want
#1406 [12:07] <Thoatt|busy> lol... I have free reign design wise... not much can get worse than what they have now...
#1407 [12:07] <Thoatt|busy> I just have to make the site as small as possible.
#1408 [12:07] <NotiCon> oic
#1409 [12:07] <Thoatt|busy> small = size of files, not dimensions
#1410 [12:09] <NotiCon> hehe
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#1413 [12:09] <Thoatt|busy> 12.4kb so far lol
#1414 [12:09] <Thoatt|busy> not... terrible...
#1415 [12:09] <Thoatt|busy> Now I just need to start adding the content :D
#1416 [12:09] <jdcoolha> Have fun
#1417 [12:10] <Thoatt|busy> Oh yes.. joyous time.
#1418 [12:10] <xolotl> The key to small websites: Content-type: text/plain
#1419 [12:10] <Thoatt|busy> The key to small websites: don't use images.
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#1421 [12:11] <Thoatt|busy> I could cut out 3.75 kb if I cut out all the images... but it'd look EVEN WORSE than it does already lol
#1422 [12:12] <Thoatt|busy> oh, and the fact that I have to make it cross-browser supported...
#1423 [12:12] <Thoatt|busy> *sigh*
#1424 [12:12] <Thoatt|busy> fuckin ie...
#1425 [12:13] <jdcoolha> fuck ie*
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#1427 [12:18] <aetherian> 'e'o
#1428 [12:19] <Thoatt|busy> 'elo
#1429 [12:20] <Thoatt|busy> poop... broke that pretty well lol
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#1431 [12:24] <Thoatt|busy> hmm...
#1432 [12:25] <Thoatt|busy> with some content, that site doesn't look half bad...
#1433 [12:26] <NotiCon> Thoatt|busy: aww if only you could remove the cross support
#1434 [12:26] <Tinman> is there a way to specificy what layers to process with tectonicus?
#1435 [12:26] <Thoatt|busy> It looks fine on ie... just no text shadows, I'll put those in for ie a little later lol
#1436 [12:26] <Thoatt|busy> yep Tinman, run it with a text file
#1437 [12:26] <Thoatt|busy> err... batch*
#1438 [12:27] <Thoatt|busy> not that you can't anyways... but uhh...
#1439 [12:27] <Thoatt|busy> run it with.. I think --help or /?
#1440 [12:27] <Thoatt|busy> it should give you the options
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#1443 [12:30] <Thoatt|busy> ie... y u no support html5 better >>>
#1444 [12:30] <Thoatt|busy> >.>*
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#1446 [12:34] <Thoatt|busy> jeebus... cleaning up 13 year old code.. ftl
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#1448 [12:37] <Tinman> render will take forever, I'll be back after lunch
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#1450 [12:37] <Thoatt|busy> lol hf
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#1459 [13:16] <Eskah78> anyone got a link for a tutorial on how to setup buildable and non buildable lots on a server?
#1460 [13:17] <aetherian> no/
#1461 [13:17] <aetherian> err, a period, even.
#1462 [13:17] <aetherian> that can only be done with mods.
#1463 [13:17] <Eskah78> mmm dang.. thanks
#1464 [13:18] <aetherian> although
#1465 [13:18] <aetherian> the spawn point is always unbuildable (nonbuildable? abuildable?) except to admins (ops)
#1466 [13:19] <Ir0nman> want something like worldguard?
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#1468 [13:20] <Eskah78> dont know yet i was planing on a non mod server but dint know it was a mod function to setup building area...
#1469 [13:23] <Thoatt|busy> ok well... gonna get more focused on getting what i need to do done...
#1470 [13:23] <Thoatt|busy> so afk from here
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#1472 [13:32] <Guest15170> hello
#1473 [13:32] <Guest15170> anyone no y u cant log into the website
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#1475 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> That question makes no sense, as I can log into the website with no problems.
#1476 [13:35] <TheReddeH> http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a443/kayzor2/holyscreens_01.jpg
#1477 [13:35] <TheReddeH> :o
#1478 [13:36] <luckz> lol
#1479 [13:36] <Guest15170> says login is flooded yet i only tried once
#1480 [13:36] <DopeGhoti> TheReddeH: screens are nice. Guns are scary.
#1481 [13:37] <Guest15170> ill take a screen shot if needed
#1482 [13:37] <TheReddeH> oh right there are guns, didnt even notice those ;p
#1483 [13:38] <Guest15170> -.-
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#1485 [13:42] <itchy007> hallo
#1486 [13:42] <Guest15170> f*ck it
#1487 [13:43] <TheReddeH> what it?
#1488 [13:43] <TheReddeH> im a bad guesser
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#1491 [13:44] <Mago> Hi
#1492 [13:44] <aetherian> 'ello
#1493 [13:44] <itchy007> may i ask why i can't connect to minectraft in web? it's try to connect through https protocol and than it's return: Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes.
#1494 [13:44] <Mago> I got a problem
#1495 [13:45] <aetherian> Mago: what else is new.
#1496 [13:45] <Mago> I create my account since 30 minuts but i did a mistake when i write my mail adress
#1497 [13:45] <Mago> And i can't change it now
#1498 [13:45] <aetherian> pity.
#1499 [13:45] <fizyplankton> Mago: try creating an email at that adress
#1500 [13:46] <Mago> but i paid the game
#1501 [13:46] <Mago> I try to submit an email at my mail but the player doesn't exist
#1502 [13:47] <fizyplankton> yeah. say your email is foo@bar.com but you accidentally put in fii@bar.com. just create an email at fii@bar.com and it should be there waiting for you
#1503 [13:47] <Mago> but my account is already create
#1504 [13:47] * aetherian bangs his head against the keyboard
#1504 [13:47] <fizyplankton> yeah. just make a new email account
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#1506 [13:48] <Mago> But at don't know what i write when i create my account :p
#1507 [13:48] * fizyplankton reminds aetherian of the name of this channel. #mninecraftHELP
#1507 [13:48] <fizyplankton> what browser do you use?
#1508 [13:48] <aetherian> and if he doesn't know if he did fii@bar, fuu@bar, bgdsbh@bar, or what have you?
#1509 [13:48] <Mago> I probably change two letters of my email adress
#1510 [13:48] <TheReddeH> gheybar
#1511 [13:48] <itchy007> fizyplankton: this question is for me?
#1512 [13:49] <Mago> but we can't change from the minecraft.net we are only allow to change passwword
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#1514 [13:49] <Mago> Any admins are here ? or it's only player ? 7
#1515 [13:50] <fizyplankton> trust me. you never need to get your email for minecraft thingies
#1516 [13:50] <Mago> I trust you but
#1517 [13:50] <Mago> my friend paid with visa so ...
#1518 [13:50] <xolotl> Mago: If you have your paypal transaction ID and such, try emailing payment@mojang.com
#1519 [13:51] <xolotl> Mago: That's pretty much the only thing you can try
#1520 [13:51] <Mago> visa paid
#1521 [13:51] <fizyplankton> the only possoble exception is if you need to confirm your account. like a click this link to confirm mago's account. truyst me. i have paid since like july
#1522 [13:51] <xolotl> Mago: Or whatever; Visa transaction ID. Just proof that it was you who bought it
#1523 [13:51] <xolotl> Mago: If it was your friend who bought it, then your friend might have to be the person to contact them
#1524 [13:51] <Mago> Yep i understand
#1525 [13:52] <fizyplankton> and with the possible exceptoion of confirming my account (i cant remember if i had to), you never need to get your email for mc stuff. ever
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#1527 [13:53] <fizyplankton> and Mago i see that you use a web based client. what browser are you in?
#1528 [13:53] <Mago> mozilla firefox
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#1530 [13:55] <fizyplankton> if you hit the back button, firefox *may* fill in the registration forms. idk, i know chrome will. another thing you can try is go to the screen to register another accoubt, and double click the email field. aauto complete should pull up a drop down menu with 2 email. your email, and your mistake email. biingo
#1531 [13:55] * fizyplankton is ggenious
#1531 [13:55] <aetherian> ggenious. classic, man.
#1532 [13:55] <Mago> so if i heard you
#1533 [13:56] <Mago> I put my log in
#1534 [13:56] <Mago> My real mail address
#1535 [13:56] <Mago> and that will work ?
#1536 [13:56] <fizyplankton> go to this page :http://www.minecraft.net/register.jsp and then double click the email text box
#1537 [13:57] <aetherian> and then press the down button
#1538 [13:57] <fizyplankton> ?
#1539 [13:57] <aetherian> sometimes you need to press down for things to be shown.
#1540 [13:57] <aetherian> for me, anyways
#1541 [13:57] <fizyplankton> oh yeah, then yes
#1542 [13:58] <fizyplankton> but yeah. /me is ggenious
#1543 [13:58] <Mago> That name is taken. Please try another.
#1544 [13:59] <fizyplankton> you dont register. all you do is double click the email box. auto complete will list out all the emails you have even put into an email text field on any webpage
#1545 [13:59] <fizyplankton> ever put ibn*
#1546 [13:59] <aetherian> ggenious. hurr.
#1547 [13:59] <fizyplankton> ever put in**
#1548 [13:59] <Mago> But it's wasn't on my computer
#1549 [13:59] <fizyplankton> you have to do it on that computer
#1550 [14:00] <Mago> k :)
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#1552 [14:01] <fizyplankton> ggenious
#1553 [14:01] <aetherian> hurr hurr.
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#1555 [14:02] <itchy007> can i ask now? :-)
#1556 [14:02] <fizyplankton> yeah sure
#1557 [14:02] <itchy007> i play rhtough web browser and now it returns Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes.
#1558 [14:03] <itchy007> looks like https protocol problem
#1559 [14:04] <itchy007> but i don't know what's wrong
#1560 [14:04] <itchy007> username and pasw. is corect
#1561 [14:06] <Mago> But that sux if we can't change the mail address :/
#1562 [14:07] <Mago> the customer support can't change the mail adress ?
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#1564 [14:08] <Twelve-60> Hi, I'm hoping someone has had this before... I keep lagging in this multiplayer server (reappearing blocks, chat i type doesn't appear to me for ages (can be minutes). but its only me, everyone else in the server is fine. my computer is file, 8gb of ram/quad core, reconnecting fixes it for a bit? :/
#1565 [14:08] <Twelve-60> as a site note the chat I type appears instantly for everyone but myself lol
#1566 [14:09] <Twelve-60> my internet is fine, no issue there (im on skype chatting with another person in the server)
#1567 [14:09] <Twelve-60> just tried redownloading the game but no luck
#1568 [14:10] <Tinman> something went wrong with tectonicus, all i have is brown
#1569 [14:11] <Mago> Someone know if we can contact the customer support ?
#1570 [14:11] <Mago> thx
#1571 [14:15] <xolotl> Mago: payment@mojang.com
#1572 [14:15] <xolotl> Mago: As I said before, that's your only option
#1573 [14:17] <Kealper> it is unlikely that they will change the email linked to an account
#1574 [14:17] <Twelve-60> got an error: software caused connection abort recv failed
#1575 [14:17] <Kealper> it's worth trying, on hopes that they are in a good mood, but don't get your hopes up
#1576 [14:18] <Kealper> Twelve-60: do you consistently get those?
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#1578 [14:18] <Mago> k xoloti
#1579 [14:18] <Mago> We need to write them in english ? :p
#1580 [14:18] <Twelve-60> Kealper: it seems so
#1581 [14:18] <Kealper> Mago: english or swedish works
#1582 [14:19] <Kealper> Twelve-60: just on one server or all of them? and how long does it take for you to get it?
#1583 [14:20] <Twelve-60> only tried 1 server atm
#1584 [14:20] <Twelve-60> i start off fine then everything goes glitchy after a while
#1585 [14:21] <Kealper> Twelve-60: what is your ingame username? i'll let you give it a shot on my server to see if it's you or the server you tried
#1586 [14:21] <Twelve-60> TwelveSixty
#1587 [14:21] <Mago> So that will english , i'm french :)
#1588 [14:21] <Kealper> Mago: english then, yes
#1589 [14:22] <Kealper> Twelve-60: server address is mc.kealper.com
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#1593 [14:23] <Mago> But for be sure
#1594 [14:23] <Mago> ^^
#1595 [14:23] <Mago> No information from visa card to my friend is called at mail ?
#1596 [14:23] <Mago> no password and id of the account is called ?
#1597 [14:24] <Mach1av3ll1> Does anyone know why my server is not showing up on the list?
#1598 [14:24] <NotiCon> what list?
#1599 [14:24] <aetherian> is it a beta server?
#1600 [14:24] <Kealper> Mago: you should send proof that the account is actually yours, or they will think you are just trying to steal the account
#1601 [14:24] <Mach1av3ll1> The official server list
#1602 [14:24] <Mach1av3ll1> yes
#1603 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> There is no official server list for beta servers
#1604 [14:24] <aetherian> the list...
#1605 [14:24] <aetherian> is only for classic.
#1606 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> the "official list" is for Classic servers
#1607 [14:24] <Mach1av3ll1> ahh ok
#1608 [14:24] <ItsCriminal> GreyVulpine are you maybe there?
#1609 [14:25] <Mach1av3ll1> hahaha
#1610 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> ItsCriminal: he may be, he may not be
#1611 [14:25] <ItsCriminal> haha :D
#1612 [14:25] <LargePrime> Kselper, have you a minute
#1613 [14:25] <Kealper> LargePrime: indeed
#1614 [14:25] <LargePrime> bah , stupid fingers
#1615 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> LargePrime: tab. tab is your friend
#1616 [14:26] <aetherian> pfft
#1617 [14:26] <aetherian> tab
#1618 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> also, protip, kids: percocet adversly affects one's typing skills
#1619 [14:26] <NotiCon> tab is for lazy ppl
#1620 [14:26] <lukegb> Dotab?
#1621 [14:26] <aetherian> dpeogothi: haha tab
#1622 [14:26] <LargePrime> I was wondering if you could tell me more about a clock tick counter circut
#1623 [14:27] <LargePrime> DopeGhoti: not when you cannot even get the first two letters right
#1624 [14:27] <Kealper> uhh...do you know how to use RS NOR latches?
#1625 [14:27] <LargePrime> nope
#1626 [14:27] <Kealper> you know what they do right?
#1627 [14:28] <LargePrime> I know of them. They store a bit
#1628 [14:28] <LargePrime> right?
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#1630 [14:28] <Kealper> ish, i could show you how to make one and how they can be used
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#1632 [14:29] <LargePrime> Great
#1633 [14:29] <Mago> I hope for they trust me ...
#1634 [14:29] <Kealper> ingame username?
#1635 [14:29] <Mago> But i don't know the transaction number
#1636 [14:29] <cosmo> is there any way to rescue a world that has a corrupt area?
#1637 [14:29] <LargePrime> can you vid me
#1638 [14:29] <LargePrime> or wiki
#1639 [14:29] <LargePrime> cannot lonin now
#1640 [14:29] <LargePrime> login
#1641 [14:29] <Kealper> LargePrime: oh, let me find something that explains them then
#1642 [14:30] <LargePrime> tell me what to googl
#1643 [14:30] <LargePrime> I am gonna fire my fingers and get new ones.
#1644 [14:31] <Kealper> here is one that sort of describes it
#1645 [14:31] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits#RS_NOR_latch
#1646 [14:31] <Kealper> has an example video on it
#1647 [14:33] <ItsCriminal> does someone know Smart Package Manager for Linux?
#1648 [14:34] <Mach1av3ll1> So my server was originally on the list on the site and then when I generated a new map it will not show up. Anyone have this problem
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#1650 [14:34] <Swagg> anyone know why my server wont show up on the list?
#1651 [14:34] <Kealper> Swagg: classic or beta?
#1652 [14:35] <Swagg> uhh im not sure tbh
#1653 [14:35] <Swagg> first server
#1654 [14:35] <Swagg> how do i check
#1655 [14:35] <Kealper> do people have to buy the game to play on your server?
#1656 [14:35] <Swagg> i believe so
#1657 [14:35] <Kealper> ok then....is there a file called externalurl.txt in the same folder as your server?
#1658 [14:35] * mib_lb43gq [mib_lb43gq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1659 [14:36] <Swagg> nope
#1660 [14:36] <Kealper> it's a beta server then
#1661 [14:36] <Kealper> that official list on minecraft.net is a list of classic servers only
#1662 [14:36] <Swagg> ahhh
#1663 [14:36] <Swagg> how do i change it?
#1664 [14:36] <Kealper> beta won't get it's own list until it's not beta lol
#1665 [14:37] <Kealper> uh....you could just download the classic server files, although i'm not sure why you would want to....they are not compatible with eachother
#1666 [14:37] <Mago> Kealper i send a message to them
#1667 [14:37] <Kealper> classic is like a free-build game, beta is the survival one where you must earn your resources
#1668 [14:38] <Mago> We will see
#1669 [14:38] <Kealper> Mago: one can hope lol
#1670 [14:38] <Mago> But
#1671 [14:38] <Mago> Do u know what it's give on the mail when u paid the game ?
#1672 [14:39] <Kealper> nothing important, but it is a good idea to have the correct email just incase you ever need to reset your password or something
#1673 [14:39] <Mago> yes
#1674 [14:40] <Mago> But i don't care to reset my password ^^
#1675 [14:40] <Mago> It's only because my friend paid by card
#1676 [14:40] <Kealper> well, just make sure that your account is never compropised then, and you should be fine
#1677 [14:41] <Kealper> wow...i can't spell
#1678 [14:41] * Kealper readjusts his keyboard position
#1678 [14:41] <Mago> seriously ...
#1679 [14:41] <aetherian> comproPIEsed
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#1681 [14:41] <aetherian> subliminal messages, kels?
#1682 [14:41] <Kealper> quiet, you
#1683 [14:41] <ra> !check 192.168.1.10
#1684 [14:41] <Kealper> lol
#1685 [14:41] <Mago> If i can't change the mail adress
#1686 [14:42] <Mago> i will try to keep the wrong mail adress and create this adress ^^ if i can
#1687 [14:42] <Mago> i probably put
#1688 [14:42] <Mago> hofmail ^^
#1689 [14:42] <Kealper> i might be able to check lol
#1690 [14:42] <aetherian> huffy mail?
#1691 [14:42] <Mago> hofmail does'nt exist so i don't care :)
#1692 [14:42] <Kealper> nope, guess i can't check right now
#1693 [14:44] <bread> !check 127.0.0.0
#1694 [14:44] <bread> :>
#1695 [14:44] <bread> ok fine
#1696 [14:44] <bread> !check 74.208.227.185
#1697 [14:44] <bread> :<
#1698 [14:44] <Kealper> lol
#1699 [14:45] <aetherian> !check 127.*
#1700 [14:45] <aetherian> :o
#1701 [14:45] <Kealper> that isn't a valid ip
#1702 [14:45] <bread> !check herp.derp.0.1
#1703 [14:45] <bread> :<
#1704 [14:45] <bread> :D
#1705 [14:46] <fizyplankton> wait is aubot a server checker thingy?
#1706 [14:46] <aetherian> !check
#1707 [14:46] <aetherian> what? that's not good.
#1708 [14:46] <oldtopmanserver> !check
#1709 [14:46] <Kealper> lol
#1710 [14:46] <oldtopmanserver> :)
#1711 [14:46] <fizyplankton> !check 74.166.109.199
#1712 [14:47] <fizyplankton> crap
#1713 [14:47] <aetherian> !check
#1714 [14:47] <fizyplankton> what do i get? every thing looks good! and a 8 line error
#1715 [14:47] <fizyplankton> sorry. 9 line error
#1716 [14:48] <Kealper> wut
#1717 [14:48] <fizyplankton> !check marvv.doesntexist.com
#1718 [14:48] <Kealper> oh, in the server console lol
#1719 [14:48] <fizyplankton> darn iot
#1720 [14:48] <fizyplankton> !check markv.doesntexist.com
#1721 [14:48] <fizyplankton> woo!
#1722 [14:48] <Kealper> !check mc.kealper.com
#1723 [14:48] * oldtopmanserver wishes people would stop abusing the bots
#1723 [14:48] <Kealper> i can abuse it all i want :o
#1724 [14:48] <aetherian> haha
#1725 [14:49] <fizyplankton> lol i know how you fell. i get so much spam on my bots
#1726 [14:49] <fizyplankton> feel*
#1727 [14:49] <aetherian> at least we've all forgotten about a certain command of a certain bot
#1728 [14:49] <Kealper> and indeed it does spam the server console after it just disconnects without telling the server first lol
#1729 [14:49] <fizyplankton> damn this non model m keyboard
#1730 [14:49] <Kealper> fizyplankton: nice.
#1731 [14:49] <aetherian> hang on fizy
#1732 [14:49] <aetherian> lemme try to connect to your server
#1733 [14:50] <fizyplankton> i have a ramdisk enabled server. its so cool
#1734 [14:50] <aetherian> does it say I connected?
#1735 [14:50] <fizyplankton> nope lemme rebnoot the server
#1736 [14:50] <Thoatt|busy> meh... ok... done with that for today...
#1737 [14:50] <fizyplankton> ok its back up
#1738 [14:51] <aetherian> mark.doesntexist.com, right?
#1739 [14:51] <fizyplankton> yes. ot 74.166.109.199. whichever
#1740 [14:51] <aetherian> I should be connected, check the thing.
#1741 [14:51] <fizyplankton> markv
#1742 [14:51] <fizyplankton> not mark
#1743 [14:51] <aetherian> I got markv
#1744 [14:51] <aetherian> lemme try the IP
#1745 [14:51] <fizyplankton> just use 74.166.109.199
#1746 [14:52] <Thoatt> doesnotexist.com is already taken
#1747 [14:52] <Thoatt> ._.
#1748 [14:52] <Thoatt> I'd have bought it. lol
#1749 [14:52] <aetherian> ah kay
#1750 [14:52] <fizyplankton> 11-04-11 14:51:34 [INFO] Disconnecting /75.30.245.68:49216: Took too long to log in
#1751 [14:52] <aetherian> :D
#1752 [14:52] <fizyplankton> non. markv.doesntexist.com is registered
#1753 [14:52] <fizyplankton> to me
#1754 [14:52] <fizyplankton> 11-04-11 14:52:32 [INFO] Kealper [/67.177.131.104:65112] logged in with entity id 35
#1755 [14:53] <Kealper> doesn't look like it'll let me in
#1756 [14:53] <Mago> kealper u know how much time is take to answer at mail ?
#1757 [14:53] <aetherian> I should be in now :D
#1758 [14:53] <fizyplankton> augh. gimme a sec
#1759 [14:53] <aetherian> it should be disconnecting me :)
#1760 [14:53] <Kealper> Mago: could take up to a day, as it is already like 8PM at Mojang
#1761 [14:54] <Mago> pm is afternoon yes ?
#1762 [14:54] <Kealper> yes
#1763 [14:54] <Kealper> 20:00 in 24h time lol
#1764 [14:54] <aetherian> fizy: did you see me :o
#1765 [14:55] <fizyplankton> im trying to patebin the console
#1766 [14:55] <aetherian> haha
#1767 [14:56] * Ecsktatic [Ecsktatic@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1768 [14:56] <fizyplankton> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/369851/
#1769 [14:56] <aetherian> :D
#1770 [14:57] <aetherian> see what I did there ;o
#1771 [14:57] <fizyplankton> aetherian: are you this 75.30 person?
#1772 [14:57] <Mago> So we will see but i m don't fearing anymore ... u told not important thing is given :)
#1773 [14:57] <aetherian> yes
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#1775 [14:57] <aetherian> I repeatedly telneted into your server on port 25565 :D
#1776 [14:57] <aetherian> for da win :D
#1777 [14:57] <Kealper> lol....
#1778 [14:58] <Mago> We will see if internet explorer ^^ keep the mail adress before when i create the account
#1779 [14:58] <fizyplankton> ASS
#1780 [14:58] <fizyplankton> .
#1781 [14:58] <fizyplankton> .
#1782 [14:58] <fizyplankton> .
#1783 [14:58] <fizyplankton> HOLE
#1784 [14:58] <aetherian> :DDD
#1785 [14:58] <fizyplankton> WHAT THE FUCK MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1786 [14:58] <aetherian> now now
#1787 [14:58] <fizyplankton> :|
#1788 [14:59] <Kealper> eh?
#1789 [14:59] <aetherian> someone's angry T_T
#1790 [14:59] <fizyplankton> :|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|
#1791 [14:59] <NotiCon> aetherian: oh you made him have crazy eyes
#1792 [14:59] <aetherian> are those sandwiches?
#1793 [14:59] <NotiCon> thats one huge sandwich
#1794 [14:59] <Thoatt> om nom.. sammiches.
#1795 [14:59] <aetherian> ice cream sandwiches?
#1796 [14:59] <fizyplankton> aetherian: FAIL
#1797 [14:59] <bread> they're weird TIE Fighters
#1798 [14:59] <bread> |:|
#1799 [15:00] <Thoatt> |-|
#1800 [15:00] <Kealper> |o|
#1801 [15:00] <aetherian> fizyplankton: y u so angry
#1802 [15:00] <Kealper> pew pew
#1803 [15:00] <aetherian> |
#1804 [15:00] <aetherian> |o|
#1805 [15:00] <fizyplankton> Kealper: je sais qui est un pew!!!!!!!!!!!
#1806 [15:00] <Thoatt> (__)__)=... I'll stop...
#1807 [15:00] <aetherian> .-.
#1808 [15:00] <fizyplankton> et ce n'est pas moi!
#1809 [15:00] <Mago> fizyplankton where are you from ? :p
#1810 [15:00] <Kealper> fizyplankton: that wasn't french i was refering to :/
#1811 [15:01] <fizyplankton> Kealper: you were speaking french, right?
#1812 [15:01] <fizyplankton> oh whoops
#1813 [15:01] <Thoatt> No...
#1814 [15:01] <Thoatt> lol
#1815 [15:01] <Tinman> if I wanted to have a switch operated rail switcher, and I wanted it to revert after 5 seconds, is there a guide for that?
#1816 [15:01] <fizyplankton> pew in french means bitch in english
#1817 [15:01] <Kealper> pew pew is the sound a cartoon gun makes...lol
#1818 [15:01] <Kealper> does it really? TIL!
#1819 [15:01] <fizyplankton> its not spelled the same. but thats how you pronounce it
#1820 [15:01] <Mago> fizyplantkin i m french and pew don't mean that :)
#1821 [15:02] <Thoatt> ll a ete untilisant l'onomatopee :D
#1822 [15:02] <aetherian> Thoatt: nyet
#1823 [15:02] <fizyplankton> i said je sais qui est un pew!!!!!!!!!!! et ce n'est pas moi!
#1824 [15:02] <aetherian> je ne pas compris
#1825 [15:02] <Mago> that mean nothing pew ^^
#1826 [15:02] <fizyplankton> translation: i know who is a bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 and its not me!
#1827 [15:02] <aetherian> oneoneone
#1828 [15:02] <aetherian> anyway
#1829 [15:02] <Thoatt> oneohone
#1830 [15:02] <bread> was ist denn los
#1831 [15:02] <Kealper> aetherian: it's нет, get it right >:(
#1832 [15:03] <aetherian> calm down now guys
#1833 [15:03] <Mago> Bitch for american people is more for "salope" in France :)
#1834 [15:03] <aetherian> Kealper: I prefer the english failderlization
#1835 [15:03] <aetherian> besides
#1836 [15:03] <bread> ныет
#1837 [15:03] <aetherian> you googled that
#1838 [15:03] <fizyplankton> me?
#1839 [15:03] <aetherian> no
#1840 [15:03] <aetherian> kelly
#1841 [15:03] <Thoatt> Mago: I think he's refering to pute...
#1842 [15:03] <Kealper> aetherian: i knew it, but i was ghetto and translated it because i can't type cryllic on my keyboard lol
#1843 [15:03] <bread> OBJECTION
#1844 [15:04] <Mago> yep but pute ... is a work for some girls ...
#1845 [15:04] <aetherian> ¡uoıʇɔǝɾqo
#1846 [15:04] <fizyplankton> bread: OVER RULED
#1847 [15:04] <bread> :(
#1848 [15:04] <Thoatt> Perhaps pew is a colloquialism for pute for him lol
#1849 [15:04] <aetherian> ¿pǝןnɹɹǝʌo
#1850 [15:04] <aetherian> aww
#1851 [15:04] <Mago> and pute is an hard word ... only for girls who be paid for sexual pleasure :)
#1852 [15:04] <fizyplankton> aetherian: i can do that too! fjwebsfuibyrewfbuyewgvcewchbuiew see?
#1853 [15:05] <aetherian> ˙ʇ,uop ı ou 'ou
#1854 [15:05] * fizyplankton just got totally pwnd
#1854 [15:05] <Thoatt> I can type 100 wpm... but only I can read it.
#1855 [15:05] <aetherian> K.O.
#1856 [15:05] <fizyplankton> Thoatt: WIN!!!!!!!!
#1857 [15:05] <Mago> So ^^
#1858 [15:05] <aetherian> I can type 200+wpm, but nobody can read it
#1859 [15:05] <fizyplankton> i can type at 69 wpm
#1860 [15:05] <Thoatt> "WINNING!!!" FTFY
#1861 [15:06] <aetherian> (: uʍop ǝpısdn ǝdʎʇ uɐɔ ı
#1862 [15:06] <Mago> i can type like 80 wpm ...
#1863 [15:06] <fizyplankton> aetherian can google
#1864 [15:06] <Thoatt> lol
#1865 [15:06] <Mago> but only in french :p
#1866 [15:06] <aetherian> yes I can
#1867 [15:06] <fizyplankton> CLAP FOR AETHERIAN
#1868 [15:06] * Thoatt golfclaps
#1868 [15:06] <aetherian> ʎɐʎ
#1869 [15:06] * fizyplankton whacks Thoatt with a golf club'
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#1870 [15:07] * Thoatt whacks fizyplankton upside the head with a stale loaf of french bread.
#1870 [15:07] <aetherian> I want a dvorak so bad...
#1871 [15:07] <Thoatt> dorvak you mean?
#1872 [15:07] * fizyplankton whacks Thoatt with a rusty railroad spike
#1872 [15:07] * aetherian slaps Thoatt with a plugged in lava lamp
#1872 [15:08] <Thoatt> or both. lol
#1873 [15:08] <fizyplankton> holy damn
#1874 [15:08] <aetherian> >:D
#1875 [15:08] * fizyplankton high fives aetherian
#1875 [15:08] <Kealper> Thoatt: it's dvorak
#1876 [15:08] <aetherian> eat melted wax and whatever the liquid is
#1877 [15:08] <aetherian> Kealper: that's why I slapped him
#1878 [15:08] * Thoatt whips out his regional setting and slaps aetherian in the face with different keyboard layouts
#1878 [15:08] <fizyplankton> sad thing is, is i have 3 lava lamps on my desk
#1879 [15:09] <aetherian> I have one going right now
#1880 [15:09] <fizyplankton> j'en ai trois
#1881 [15:09] <fizyplankton> i have 3
#1882 [15:09] * aetherian slaps Thoatt right on to tuesday with a mechanical clock
#1882 [15:09] <Thoatt> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Clavier_avec_disposition_dvorak_canadien_fran%C3%A7ais_-_570_CPM_moyen.ogv
#1883 [15:09] <Thoatt> :)
#1884 [15:09] <Thoatt> lol
#1885 [15:09] <fizyplankton> 404 error
#1886 [15:10] <fizyplankton> file not found
#1887 [15:10] <fizyplankton> oh wait
#1888 [15:10] * aetherian slaps fizyplankton into limbo with a 404
#1888 [15:10] <Kealper> Thoatt: i was probably just watching that same video going "wtf how and why!?"
#1889 [15:10] <Thoatt> lol
#1890 [15:10] <fizyplankton> the url didnt line wrap
#1891 [15:11] <Thoatt> Your mom didn't line wrap!
#1892 [15:11] <Thoatt> I'll get me coat.
#1893 [15:11] <aetherian> ...
#1894 [15:11] <Thoatt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3OM2MA1pic
#1895 [15:11] <fizyplankton> what was the point of that video
#1896 [15:11] <fizyplankton> ?
#1897 [15:11] * AkiTensai [AkiTensai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1898 [15:12] <Kealper> it was a person typing at 115 words per minute on a dvorak keyboard
#1899 [15:12] <aetherian> pfft
#1900 [15:12] <aetherian> only 115 :o
#1901 [15:12] <bread> I average 70wpm llolo
#1902 [15:13] <aetherian> I never really learned to type properly.......
#1903 [15:13] <bread> oh me neither
#1904 [15:13] <bread> I use anywhere from 2 to 4 fingers
#1905 [15:13] <aetherian> I type faster with two fingers + thumb(s) than with all fingers
#1906 [15:13] <bread> ^
#1907 [15:13] <fizyplankton> if i made a video of me with my model m keybboard.......well.........put it this way....... you do NOT want to be in the same building as a programmer with a model m keyboard without ear protection
#1908 [15:14] <aetherian> a programmers dvorak is what you need :o
#1909 [15:14] <Thoatt> model M = FTW
#1910 [15:14] <fizyplankton> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Modelm.ogg
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#1912 [15:14] <bread> http://dougbarton.us/images/real-supercoder.jpg
#1913 [15:14] <bread> ^ programmers keyboard
#1914 [15:14] <fizyplankton> for all you non model ms out there
#1915 [15:15] <Kealper> bread: +1
#1916 [15:15] * DopeGhoti loves the IBM Model Ms
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#1917 [15:15] <Thoatt> same lol
#1918 [15:15] <Thoatt> I really would like to get one...
#1919 [15:15] * Kealper wants a Das Keyboard
#1919 [15:15] <fizyplankton> * all prgrammers love the model m keyboards
#1920 [15:15] <aetherian> lmao bread
#1921 [15:15] * DopeGhoti might get a Das Keyboard sometime
#1921 [15:15] <fizyplankton> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Modelm.ogg now speed it up by a crap ton, and you have me
#1922 [15:16] <Thoatt> lol
#1923 [15:16] <Kealper> http://store.daskeyboard.com/Das-Keyboard-Ultimate-Model-S/dp/B003F7WXTG <-- ultimate keyboard right there
#1924 [15:16] <fizyplankton> i swear to god that is my childhood. my father had like 30 model m's arund the house
#1925 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> heh
#1926 [15:17] <aetherian> the ninja board
#1927 [15:17] <Thoatt> I had one as a kid, but I haven't had one in a while lol
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#1929 [15:17] <Thoatt> I like the one I ahave now though..
#1930 [15:17] <Thoatt> it's a slim keyboard like a laptop's
#1931 [15:17] <fizyplankton> i still have like 10 model m's
#1932 [15:17] <aetherian> nonono
#1933 [15:17] * fizyplankton whacks Thoatt with a model m
#1933 [15:18] <fizyplankton> OOOWWWNNNEEEDDD
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#1935 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> I want to get a DasKeyboard just so I can also get these for it: http://is.gd/s7qIjX
#1936 [15:18] <aetherian> http://i.imgur.com/Rk9ul.jpg this
#1937 [15:18] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: lol
#1938 [15:18] <Thoatt> I never said that I didn't like Model Ms, inc fact, I attested to the contrary... But I prefer this keyboard.
#1939 [15:19] <Thoatt> (for typing anyways... gaming I use a normal keyboard)
#1940 [15:19] <fizyplankton> Thoatt: nono. if a whacked you with one, your head would have landed in....say......jupitar
#1941 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> I used to be totally in love with Logitech's keyboards, and then they started screwing around with the edit cluster
#1942 [15:19] <Thoatt> sure fizyplankton...
#1943 [15:19] <fizyplankton> DopeGhoti: i f*cking HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT
#1944 [15:19] <aetherian> I have a keyboard that has the \ | next to the spacebar
#1945 [15:19] <Thoatt> yeah DopeGhoti, i have one of those :/
#1946 [15:19] <aetherian> as well as the other place
#1947 [15:20] <Thoatt> one with the big delete button, etc
#1948 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> I also can't stand the 'Giant backwards L' Enter key some makers insist on using
#1949 [15:20] <Thoatt> I actually like it over the 2*6 style, aside from the fact that the keyboard does not have an insert key...
#1950 [15:20] <Thoatt> lol
#1951 [15:20] <Thoatt> xD
#1952 [15:20] <Thoatt> I hate those too..
#1953 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> I use vim. Insert key *required* for insert/overwrite toggle.
#1954 [15:21] <Thoatt> small backspace key + huge enter key = ftl
#1955 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> (for me)
#1956 [15:21] <fizyplankton> the only keys you HVAE to have are 1,0,ctrl,alt, and delete
#1957 [15:21] <fizyplankton> and if you use linux, you also need a backspace key to reboot x
#1958 [15:21] <Thoatt> http://www.geeks3d.com/public/jegx/200808/keyboard-for-real-coder.jpg
#1959 [15:22] <Kealper> fizyplankton: you use X?
#1960 [15:22] <fizyplankton> fizyplankton: .....yes?
#1961 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> s/reboot/kill/ #assuming you mean ctrl-alt-BkSp
#1962 [15:22] <fizyplankton> Kealper: dont worry. i never leave the one terminal window
#1963 [15:22] <Thoatt> ... such a silly place...
#1964 [15:23] <fizyplankton> wait what the hell?!?!?!?! i pinged myself!!!!!!!
#1965 [15:23] <Kealper> why waste VT7 on X >.>
#1966 [15:23] <fizyplankton> 15:22 < fizyplankton> fizyplankton: .....yes?
#1967 [15:23] <Kealper> that's a whole VT!
#1968 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> I thought _I_ was the one all hopped up on goofballs
#1969 [15:23] <fizyplankton> Kealper: because it starts up by default
#1970 [15:24] <Thoatt> disable it!
#1971 [15:24] <Thoatt> :P
#1972 [15:24] <fizyplankton> Kealper: i only need one terminal.
#1973 [15:24] <Thoatt> fizyplankton: You absolutly need at least 14.
#1974 [15:24] <fizyplankton> i have like 9 terminals split screened in one terminal
#1975 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> sed -i 's/:5:/:3:/' /etc/inittab
#1976 [15:24] <fizyplankton> Thoatt: not if you use screen
#1977 [15:24] <Kealper> lol
#1978 [15:24] <Thoatt> 14 I say!
#1979 [15:24] <fizyplankton> Thoatt: use screen
#1980 [15:24] <Thoatt> ... do you really not get sarcasm?
#1981 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> don't use screen; use byobu (:
#1982 [15:25] <fizyplankton> also, because i have 3 monitors, VT's dont fill them all up all the way
#1983 [15:25] * Thoatt whacks fizyplankton over the head with a few doses of sarcasm.
#1983 [15:25] * fizyplankton cracks his sarcasm knuckle
#1983 [15:25] <fizyplankton> this outta be good
#1984 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> you know, if I could have X on one monitor, and one of my getty VTs on another, and be able to use them both at the same time, I'd be _really really_ happy.
#1985 [15:26] <Kealper> uhh...when i said VT, i meant the kernel's virtual terminals, not ones that are made by X :/
#1986 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> that's why I specified getty VT.
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#1988 [15:26] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: mine was meant for fizy
#1989 [15:26] <fizyplankton> Kealper: i know. when i hit ctrl-alt-f1, the VT wont use all of my screen
#1990 [15:27] <fizyplankton> so a gnome terminal is my next best bet
#1991 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> fizyplankton: that or proper kernel options for your video card so that it _will_ use the entire screen
#1992 [15:27] <bread> I only have three terminals open right now! :O
#1993 [15:28] <Thoatt> I don't have any! /windows is awesome
#1994 [15:28] <Thoatt> well actually shit.
#1995 [15:28] <Thoatt> I have one.
#1996 [15:28] <fizyplankton> I MEAN, FFS, I BOUGHT A DAMN 23 INCH 1080X1920 MONITOR!!!!!!!!!! USE! THE! !DAMN! PIXELS! THAT! I! SPENT! $120! ON! DAMN! YOU!
#1997 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> I only have 20 ATM
#1998 [15:28] <Thoatt> it doesn't count though lol
#1999 [15:28] <Thoatt> fizyplankton: you bought a 1920*1080, not the other way around...
#2000 [15:28] <Thoatt> :P
#2001 [15:28] <fizyplankton> ...POTENTIALLY
#2002 [15:28] <fizyplankton> oops
#2003 [15:29] <Morrolan> Thoatt: You never know... :p
#2004 [15:29] <Kealper> Thoatt: maybe it's a really tall monitor lol
#2005 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> Thoatt: how do you know it's not landscape
#2006 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> many people (myself included) use their "widescreen" monitors as "tallscreens" when coding
#2007 [15:29] <fizyplankton> YES YES YES YES YES!
#2008 [15:29] <Mago> Kealper for know i was my english before ?
#2009 [15:30] <Mago> how was*
#2010 [15:30] <Thoatt> but they are not sold as 1080*1920, its sold as widescreen.
#2011 [15:30] <Morrolan> for now* and you should be fine, Mago. ;)
#2012 [15:30] <Kealper> Mago: uhh...understandable lol
#2013 [15:31] <fizyplankton> ***sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet emooooooooooooooootion***
#2014 [15:31] <Mago> hehe :)
#2015 [15:31] <fizyplankton> aerosmithftw
#2016 [15:31] <fizyplankton> aerosmith ftw*
#2017 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> fizyplankton: yes, wer are indeed talking about things that nobody cares (about).
#2018 [15:31] <Mago> <3 aerosmith
#2019 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> s/wer/we/
#2020 [15:31] <Mago> Dream on
#2021 [15:31] <Mago> i go listen it :p
#2022 [15:31] <fizyplankton> rofl mago and DopeGhoti
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#2024 [15:32] <fizyplankton> god pandora is amazing
#2025 [15:32] <Mago> I was to young when that start but i love them :p
#2026 [15:32] <Thoatt> rofl
#2027 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> it used to me
#2028 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> er, be
#2029 [15:32] <Tinman> anyone want to assist a redstone noob with a delayed switch?
#2030 [15:33] <Thoatt> sure Tinman
#2031 [15:33] <Thoatt> server?
#2032 [15:33] <Tinman> working on it now
#2033 [15:33] <fizyplankton> plays awesome music, and it has crap tons of unobtainium. only thing is, it has blue assholes on it
#2034 [15:33] <Tinman> i mean I'm setting one up
#2035 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> fizyplankton: ..what?
#2036 [15:33] <fizyplankton> pandora
#2037 [15:33] <Thoatt> oh... Tinman use repeaters
#2038 [15:33] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: summarizing Avatar i take it?
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#2040 [15:34] <fizyplankton> MY GOD MAN, HAVE YOU NEVER SEEN AVATAR?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?1
#2041 [15:34] <Thoatt> Not everyone is a consumer whore.
#2042 [15:34] <Thoatt> (and how!)
#2043 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> I have, but I thought we were talking about music.
#2044 [15:34] <Mago> avatar worst movie ever made
#2045 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> Avatar was visually stunning, but the plot was nothing to write home about
#2046 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> I predicted the entire plot about three minutes in, but it was still worth seeing becase it was a visual feast.
#2047 [15:35] <Thoatt> Tinman: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_%28Repeater%29 :)
#2048 [15:35] <Thoatt> brb
#2049 [15:35] <fizyplankton> pfft. plots. all that matters is that is was awesome. all 99999999999999p. and it had lots of shplosions
#2050 [15:36] <fizyplankton> damn you pandora. now its playing mickelback
#2051 [15:36] <Kealper> i think i'll build a spleef arena in my server
#2052 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> fizyplankton: have I ever got the perfect game for you if you don't care about plot, and like "awesome" and "explosions"
#2053 [15:36] <Mago> avatar is the justin bieber but it's a movie :)
#2054 [15:36] <fizyplankton> DopeGhoti: what. fireworks?
#2055 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> fizyplankton: Just Cause 2
#2056 [15:37] <Kealper> Mago: except Avatar doesn't sing like a little girl
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#2058 [15:37] <fizyplankton> Kealper: WIN
#2059 [15:37] <Mago> Yep but that same bullshit :)
#2060 [15:37] <Mago> And we will see Avatar 2 and Avatar 3 soon
#2061 [15:37] <fizyplankton> also, avatar not only doesn't sing like a little girl, buyt also ISNT a little girl
#2062 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> avatar also isn't even the name of a character in the film
#2063 [15:38] <fizyplankton> well what about that 11 part earth series?
#2064 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> which one? There are several.
#2065 [15:38] <fizyplankton> any of them. none of them have a char named earth
#2066 [15:39] <fizyplankton> all the characters are slugs and shit flinging monkeys
#2067 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> That depends upon your feelings about the Gaia theory.
#2068 [15:39] <Tinman> can you run a server with your existing save?
#2069 [15:39] <fizyplankton> yes
#2070 [15:39] <Morrolan> Tinman: Yes, just put your save in the world folder of the server.
#2071 [15:40] <Tinman> your quicker than my googling, thanks!
#2072 [15:40] * DopeGhoti hands Tinman an apostrophe and an e.
#2072 [15:40] <fizyplankton> yeah, not everyone has my google-fu skillz
#2073 [15:40] <fizyplankton> LOL
#2074 [15:40] * Tinman does not want
#2074 [15:41] * fizyplankton gets handed and eraser and an s
#2074 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> Vox, are you awake?
#2075 [15:41] <fizyplankton> and another eraser
#2076 [15:41] <fizyplankton> DopeGhoti: isnt vox your bot?
#2077 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> it is.
#2078 [15:41] <fizyplankton> then i dont think it is asleep
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#2080 [15:42] <fizyplankton> je vais etre en retour yall
#2081 [15:42] <fizyplankton> means ILL BE BACK
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#2084 [15:45] <Tinman> server... 161.6.71.183
#2085 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> it was, actually
#2086 [15:45] * DopeGhoti gives vox some coffee
#2086 [15:45] <VoxelHead> Ta
#2087 [15:45] <VoxelHead> Mmmmm...
#2088 [15:45] * VoxelHead drinks the coffee :o)
#2088 [15:45] <Thoatt> Tinman: bad login
#2089 [15:46] <Thoatt> can other people connect to your server?
#2090 [15:46] <Kealper> that....explains why it's been so silent lately...
#2091 [15:46] * VoxelHead finishes the coffee poit!
#2091 [15:46] <Tinman> i dunno, i can
#2092 [15:46] <VoxelHead> mmmm... thanks :)
#2093 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> Thoatt: 'bad login' or 'You need to log in!'?
#2094 [15:46] <Thoatt> wait... what?
#2095 [15:46] <Thoatt> one sec lol
#2096 [15:46] <Kealper> yeah, those two things are vastly different errors
#2097 [15:46] <Thoatt> It was Bad Login, but I'm set now
#2098 [15:48] <Thoatt> Tinman: Where you at? :P
#2099 [15:48] <Thoatt> and hurry up :P I need to go help my gf with stuff lol
#2100 [15:48] <Tinman> how do i type?
#2101 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> tin on the console, say blah blah
#2102 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> Tinman: in-game, press t
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#2106 [15:51] <codyholla120> hey
#2107 [15:51] <codyholla120> i need halp
#2108 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> sorry, we only offer help here.
#2109 [15:51] <bread> lol
#2110 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> for halp, checl #lolcat
#2111 [15:51] <Thoatt> +s
#2112 [15:51] <Thoatt> oh, and don't forget #b
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#2114 [15:52] <codyholla120> i followed the instructions for "single player commands" and i opened minecraft and it didnt work (i couldnt chat)
#2115 [15:52] <codyholla120> *help
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#2117 [15:52] <codyholla120> SO HA
#2118 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> you can only chat on multiplayer servers; there's no point to chatting on single-player
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#2120 [15:52] <bread> single player IRC
#2121 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> as there is nobody to chat _with_
#2122 [15:52] <bread> isn't that just notepad?
#2123 [15:52] <xolotl> codyholla120: "single player commands" is also the name of a mod
#2124 [15:52] <codyholla120> noooooo guys "single player commands"
#2125 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> bread: that, or bitlbee
#2126 [15:53] <xolotl> codyholla120: If you don't have that mod installed, it's not going to work
#2127 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> codyholla120 mods
#2128 [15:53] <VoxelHead> codyholla120: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2129 [15:53] <VoxelHead> codyholla120: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2130 [15:53] <xolotl> codyholla120: (and this channel doesn't support mods)
#2131 [15:53] <bread> bitlbee isn't single player!
#2132 [15:53] <bread> It's two player!
#2133 [15:53] <codyholla120> hey whats bukkit?
#2134 [15:53] <xolotl> codyholla120: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bukkit
#2135 [15:54] <codyholla120> i still dont get it
#2136 [15:56] <xolotl> codyholla120: It's a server mod
#2137 [15:56] <xolotl> (or rather, a system for using other server mods)
#2138 [15:56] <AG_Scott> http://bukkit.org/ - #bukkit kgo
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#2142 [16:00] <lyude> Is there any way to turn off those stupid Can't keep up! warnings in the terminal?
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#2144 [16:00] <stevex2> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 4/10/11 11:24 AM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.4_01 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Jav
#2145 [16:00] <Kealper> lyude: no, is it being spammed?
#2146 [16:00] <lyude> yes
#2147 [16:00] <stevex2> help
#2148 [16:00] <Kealper> stevex2: has it ever worked before?
#2149 [16:00] <lyude> And I understand that it's barley handling it
#2150 [16:00] <VoxelHead> i might
#2151 [16:00] <lyude> But I'd rather turn it off
#2152 [16:00] <stevex2> not on desktop
#2153 [16:00] <Kealper> lyude: there is no way to turn it off :/
#2154 [16:00] <lyude> ;_;
#2155 [16:00] * lyude cries
#2155 [16:00] <VoxelHead> Bye Skoshuke.
#2156 [16:00] <Kealper> stevex2: update your graphics card drivers from the manufacturer's site
#2157 [16:01] <stevex2> like buy a new 1
#2158 [16:01] <Tinman> ok so anyone who is willing, I'm trying to make a switch that will come on and then go back of after 5 seconds, love some guidance
#2159 [16:01] <Kealper> stevex2: no, just download a file, run it, restart your computer, and hope that it fixes it
#2160 [16:02] <Kealper> ??> stevex2 win/dxdiag
#2161 [16:02] <VoxelHead> stevex2: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2162 [16:02] <VoxelHead> stevex2: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2163 [16:02] <lyude> How automatic is this place
#2164 [16:02] <Kealper> Tinman: lots...of repeaters that are set to max delay lol
#2165 [16:02] <Kealper> lyude: quite >.>
#2166 [16:02] <xolotl> Tinman: You want the actual switch itself to get flipped off?
#2167 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> lyude: rather.
#2168 [16:02] <lyude> I bet you don't have anything to make me a sandwhich
#2169 [16:03] <Tinman> xo, I think so
#2170 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> vox, make lyude a sandwich
#2171 [16:03] <VoxelHead> *lovingly crafts a sandwich out of tiny for lyude*
#2172 [16:03] <Tinman> maybe it can be achieved some other way
#2173 [16:03] <xolotl> Tinman: AFAIK that's not possible
#2174 [16:03] <lyude> ...damn
#2175 [16:03] <xolotl> Tinman: What are you trying to accomplish?
#2176 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> vox, tiny is not a noun
#2177 [16:04] <Tinman> I'm trying to have a switch that will change a rail to another track but then change it back after a few seconds so i can get back
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#2179 [16:05] <lukegb> vox, kick lukegb
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#2181 [16:05] * VoxelHead kicks lukegb
#2181 [16:06] <lukegb> who made vox do that? :P
#2182 [16:06] <lukegb> c'mon, own up
#2183 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> you did.
#2184 [16:06] <lukegb> 24 second delay? seriously?
#2185 [16:06] <bread> vox, eat some bread
#2186 [16:06] * VoxelHead eats some bread
#2186 [16:06] <bread> :D
#2187 [16:07] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2188 [16:07] <bread> ^_^
#2189 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> vox, why do you sometimes type slowly?
#2190 [16:07] <VoxelHead> too hot
#2191 [16:07] <bread> loool
#2192 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> there you go, lukegb.
#2193 [16:07] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: :( *VoxelHead* I don't accept DCC chats from strangers.
#2194 [16:07] * lukegb hugs VoxelHead
#2194 [16:07] <VoxelHead> *boing*
#2195 [16:09] * mib_79zzxc [mib_79zzxc@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2196 [16:09] <mib_79zzxc> hey whats the channel for mod help?
#2197 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: are you asking to be formally introduced to VoxelHead?
#2198 [16:09] <VoxelHead> Omg yes.
#2199 [16:09] <Kealper> even vox agrees
#2200 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> ??>> mib_79zzxc mods
#2201 [16:09] <lukegb> ??> mib_79zzxc mods
#2202 [16:09] <VoxelHead> mib_79zzxc: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2203 [16:09] <VoxelHead> mib_79zzxc: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2204 [16:09] <Kealper> also....there is #mcmods but idk if that is active enough yet for 24/7 help
#2205 [16:10] <lukegb> was that me, or DG?
#2206 [16:10] <Kealper> lukegb: ??>> sends it to them in a notice
#2207 [16:10] <lukegb> ooooohhhhh
#2208 [16:10] <lukegb> but then everyone else doesn't know if it worked :P
#2209 [16:10] <lukegb> channel spamming for fun and profit!
#2210 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: the sender does.
#2211 [16:10] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: I guessed as much
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#2213 [16:10] <lukegb> Hence "everyone else"
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#2215 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: so, er
#2216 [16:12] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: umm
#2217 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: did you, or not?
#2218 [16:13] <lukegb> did I what?
#2219 [16:13] <Kealper> vox seems to think so :o
#2220 [16:13] * lukegb nods vehemently :P
#2220 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> 13:10 <@DopeGhoti> lukegb: are you asking to be formally introduced to VoxelHead?
#2221 [16:13] * VoxelHead blessing behinds lukegb in return
#2221 [16:14] <bread> vox, courtmartial lukegb
#2222 [16:14] * VoxelHead throws lukegb in the brig to await charges
#2222 [16:14] <bread> :>
#2223 [16:15] <VoxelHead> :)
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#2225 [16:15] <VoxelHead> Lukegb, you are charged with having sex with a shuttle, and having sex on Tasha Yar.
#2226 [16:15] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to be Neelix's food taster for a day. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#2227 [16:16] <lukegb> :o
#2228 [16:16] <VoxelHead> Marmalade.
#2229 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> Having sex _on_ Tasha Yarr? With whom?
#2230 [16:16] <VoxelHead> omg no
#2231 [16:16] <bread> I lol'd
#2232 [16:16] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: with the shuttle itself, i'd presume
#2233 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> so that's how Tasha died.
#2234 [16:17] <bread> Have fun tasting Neelix's food, lukegb.
#2235 [16:17] * DopeGhoti always thought it was black goo.
#2235 [16:17] <lukegb> bread: pft, he gets better near the end of voyager, before he leaves :P
#2236 [16:17] <fizyplankton> what the hell are we talking about?!?!?!?!?!?
#2237 [16:18] <fizyplankton> i just came back from ramen and this is what i see Having sex _on_ Tasha Yarr? With whom?
#2238 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: why do you think he left? The only good thing to come out of Voyager was the EMH.
#2239 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> fizyplankton: /my points further up.
#2240 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> s/my/me/
#2241 [16:18] <lemon-rev> anyone uptodate with twitter :P mc wise :)
#2242 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: I can be.
#2243 [16:19] <lukegb> aaaaaaand Aptana Studio has crashed.
#2244 [16:19] <lemon-rev> can be lol ie you havent looked yet :P
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#2246 [16:19] <lemon-rev> i just looked love the backdrop for wall paper of mc
#2247 [16:19] <lukegb> ewww ie
#2248 [16:19] <lemon-rev> and nov seems to be full version time :)
#2249 [16:21] <lukegb> We we we so excited
#2250 [16:21] <JonathanS> lol
#2251 [16:21] <JonathanS> ITS FRIDAY
#2252 [16:21] <JonathanS> FRIDAY
#2253 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> no, it's Monday.
#2254 [16:21] <JonathanS> i know lol
#2255 [16:21] <bread> no more fun fun fun :(
#2256 [16:22] <JonathanS> does anyone know if
#2257 [16:22] <JonathanS> my friend can jon my bukkit server
#2258 [16:22] <JonathanS> with sp mods
#2259 [16:22] <JonathanS> cause theres errors in the console
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#2261 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: Most SSP mods don't workin in SMP
#2262 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> s/in in /in /
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#2264 [16:24] <JonathanS> i know
#2265 [16:24] <JonathanS> but cant he still play on my server?
#2266 [16:24] <JonathanS> its just a sp mod
#2267 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> Generally not, no, which is why I said what I said.
#2268 [16:24] <lukegb> DopeGhoti: so yeah, I am asking to be formally inducted into the Guild of... err, I mean introduced to VoxelHead :P
#2269 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> (to wit: it was pertinent to the topic at hand)
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#2271 [16:25] <CyborgDragon> GreyVulpine: you there?
#2272 [16:25] <VoxelHead> No, but it does make me horny.
#2273 [16:26] * VoxelHead is away: pub
#2273 [16:28] <bread> loooooool
#2274 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> bread: what is 'laugh out out out out out out out out out out out loud' even supposed to mean?
#2275 [16:29] <bread> very very _very_ out.
#2276 [16:29] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: Sudden violent internal organ failure?
#2277 [16:29] <bread> :>
#2278 [16:29] <bread> PERHAPS
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#2280 [16:32] <CyborgDragon> GreyVulpine: when you get back, i'd like to talk about the #risucraft situation
#2281 [16:32] <TehKrush> meow
#2282 [16:32] <lukegb> CyborgDragon: there's a situation?
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#2286 [16:36] <AG_Scott> lukegb, kind of.
#2287 [16:36] <lukegb> AG_Scott: err, in response to?
#2288 [16:36] <AG_Scott> Evidently, #risucraft kicks people who ask for help now. :shrug:
#2289 [16:36] <CyborgDragon> no, someone has been
#2290 [16:36] <CyborgDragon> and i mean to find out who
#2291 [16:36] <CyborgDragon> and stop it
#2292 [16:37] <lukegb> kicking people asking for help? >_>
#2293 [16:37] <CyborgDragon> #risucraft is meant to be a general mod discussion and help channel, help making and installing
#2294 [16:37] <AG_Scott> That's what we keep hearing and have seen.
#2295 [16:37] <TehKrush> We'd like proof that we apparently kick people who ask for help.
#2296 [16:37] <_303> If someone pastes a screenful of crash reports in a channel, a kick is appropriate, is it not
#2297 [16:37] <Kealper> O.o
#2298 [16:37] <CyborgDragon> TehKrush: i would like logs to find out who is doing it, because if it's not just a bunch of people crying over the fact they got kicked for spamming
#2299 [16:37] <CyborgDragon> i mean to put a stop to it
#2300 [16:38] <Kealper> _303: want AuBot in your channel? it has flood protection to prevent that sort of thing, we get that a lot in here too
#2301 [16:38] <CyborgDragon> risugami had a flood protection script at one point, don't know if he still has it active or not
#2302 [16:38] <TehKrush> I'm still guessing it's that guy that was there yesterday complaining about lag on his computer and then calling us all assholes and getting kicked lol
#2303 [16:38] <_303> not my channel, but CyborgDragon's
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#2305 [16:39] <Kealper> oh
#2306 [16:39] * Kealper shuts up and goes back to making his spleef arena
#2306 [16:39] <CyborgDragon> flood protection would be nice, could we customize it to say something like, if it's an error report, use pastebin.com?
#2307 [16:39] <CyborgDragon> lol
#2308 [16:39] <AG_Scott> This happened days ago.
#2309 [16:39] * aetherian shoves breaks the block beneath Kealper, goes down, and loots his body.
#2309 [16:39] <AG_Scott> and it's been many reports, not just one.
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#2311 [16:40] <Kealper> AuBot just mutes them and tells them they have been muted for x seconds for saying too much too fast
#2312 [16:40] <CyborgDragon> oh, cool
#2313 [16:40] <Kealper> i guess i should put a link to pastebin in there though
#2314 [16:41] <AG_Scott> Does mibbit still auto paste huge blocks of text?
#2315 [16:41] <TehKrush> yes.
#2316 [16:41] <TehKrush> and then people complain when we kick them for it and tell them to get a better client.
#2317 [16:41] <TehKrush> :D
#2318 [16:47] <Kealper> anywho....if you would like AuBot to do nospam crap and want to see what it does specifically, just paste 4 or more lines into this channel or #mcchatter lol
#2319 [16:47] <fizyplankton> sa
#2320 [16:47] <Kealper> bleh, was going to send that ages ago but a creeper killed me while i was typing
#2321 [16:47] <fizyplankton> sa
#2322 [16:47] <fizyplankton> sa
#2323 [16:47] <fizyplankton> sa
#2324 [16:47] <fizyplankton> sa
#2325 [16:47] <TehKrush> lol
#2326 [16:47] <fizyplankton> what the hell is q?
#2327 [16:47] <TehKrush> quiet
#2328 [16:48] <peru_> quiet?
#2329 [16:48] <fizyplankton> weirs
#2330 [16:48] <Istas> useful.
#2331 [16:48] <fizyplankton> on talkkay, q is channel owner
#2332 [16:48] <fizyplankton> i was like YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wait..........
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#2334 [16:49] <peru_> it means no more ascii art on this channel heh
#2335 [16:49] <Bowser> Anyone here a coder?
#2336 [16:49] <fizyplankton> yes
#2337 [16:49] <fizyplankton> im a python developer
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#2339 [16:50] <peru_> apparently he wasnt satisfied with your answer
#2340 [16:50] * Kealper would rather keep silent on his perferred language
#2340 [16:50] * Kealper doesn't feel like getting laughed at
#2340 [16:50] <fizyplankton> COBAL?
#2341 [16:51] <_303> INTERCAL?
#2342 [16:51] <fizyplankton> machoine code?
#2343 [16:51] <Kealper> you'll never guess it
#2344 [16:51] <fizyplankton> perl?
#2345 [16:51] <fizyplankton> ADA?
#2346 [16:51] <Kealper> but it's a hell of a lot higher level than cobol or asm
#2347 [16:51] <fizyplankton> haskell?
#2348 [16:51] <fizyplankton> c?
#2349 [16:51] <fizyplankton> c++?
#2350 [16:51] <fizyplankton> c#?
#2351 [16:51] <peru_> pascal?
#2352 [16:51] <fizyplankton> HTML?
#2353 [16:51] <Kealper> you're all listing languages that actually don't suck....
#2354 [16:52] <Kealper> and HTML isn't a programming language, it's a markup language
#2355 [16:52] <fizyplankton> HEY! I LISTED PERL!
#2356 [16:52] <fizyplankton> PERL DOES SUCK
#2357 [16:52] <_303> perl only sucks if you suck
#2358 [16:52] <Kealper> no, although i do know some perl lol
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#2360 [16:52] <peru_> fortran
#2361 [16:52] <fizyplankton> no. perl sucks regardless
#2362 [16:52] <fizyplankton> lol fortran
#2363 [16:52] <lahwran> heh I'm not banned here
#2364 [16:52] <Kealper> and yes, what _303 said....the language only sucks as much as the one using it
#2365 [16:52] <lahwran> that's funny
#2366 [16:52] <Istas> If xkcd had someone swinging in on a rope to PERL! people out of trouble, it can't suck that much.
#2367 [16:53] <fizyplankton> oh yeah?
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#2369 [16:53] <fizyplankton> http://xkcd.com/353/
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#2371 [16:53] <fizyplankton> make sure to read the tool tip
#2372 [16:55] <Kealper> if anyone was still wondering, it's AutoIt
#2373 [16:55] <fizyplankton> never heard of it
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#2375 [16:55] <Kealper> if you've steered clear of windows, you probably wouldn't have
#2376 [16:55] <fizyplankton> im a recent linux convert
#2377 [16:56] <fizyplankton> i used to be all xp, but in abount january, i converted to linux
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#2379 [16:57] <Istas> I also am clinging to XP. I'll likely switch to Linux next.
#2380 [16:57] <fizyplankton> woo!
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#2382 [16:57] <fizyplankton> id recommend ubuntu
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#2384 [16:58] <Istas> Though, my mate's had problems with minecraft on linux, that I've not had on windows.
#2385 [16:59] <bread> nooo
#2386 [16:59] <bread> don't use Ubuntu!
#2387 [16:59] <bread> It's awful!
#2388 [16:59] <peru_> i'd switch if it would read& write my ntfs partitions (tried ubuntu 2 years ago without success)
#2389 [16:59] <bread> ntfs-3g
#2390 [16:59] <fizyplankton> ubuntu can read/writre ntfs partitions
#2391 [17:00] <bread> I can write to any ntfs drive just fine.
#2392 [17:00] <fizyplankton> i dual boot xp and ubuntu 10.04. works great
#2393 [17:00] <peru_> yeah but you need to install it with series of complicated text commands RIGHT? no, thank you
#2394 [17:00] <bread> no
#2395 [17:00] <bread> ntfs-3g bro
#2396 [17:01] <bread> super easy
#2397 [17:01] <fizyplankton> unless you count pressing f12 at startup, hitting the down key, and enter as complicated,. then no
#2398 [17:01] <bread> and if you're scared of the command line, Linux is NOT your OS
#2399 [17:01] <fizyplankton> i cant get enuf of the command line
#2400 [17:01] <bread> I rarely use GUI programs :>
#2401 [17:02] * Kealper reccomends trying windows 7 before just saying windows sucks (after using XP) and switching to linux
#2401 [17:02] * fizyplankton recommends burining 7 at the stake
#2401 [17:02] <bread> Windows does suck.
#2402 [17:02] <bread> I used 7 for a year+
#2403 [17:02] <fizyplankton> 7 sux
#2404 [17:02] <Istas> I've tried Windows 7. It won't play Sim City 4, for what reason I do not know, nor do I think it is justifiable.
#2405 [17:02] <fizyplankton> xp is the greatest windows ever built
#2406 [17:02] <Kealper> no....no it's not
#2407 [17:03] <fizyplankton> well, modern one
#2408 [17:03] <fizyplankton> i still say 3.1 is awesome
#2409 [17:03] <bread> I still think Windows completely blows :>
#2410 [17:03] <Kealper> after using 7 since it came out, i can safely say windows xp is complete garbage
#2411 [17:03] <fizyplankton> i have a laptop that runs 3.1
#2412 [17:04] <Istas> Windows 7 seemed fine to me, but some programs not running was very annoying.
#2413 [17:04] <aetherian> ...windows...
#2414 [17:04] <bread> ^
#2415 [17:04] <bread> I can't stand using Windows
#2416 [17:04] <bread> any version of it.
#2417 [17:04] <aetherian> linux :D
#2418 [17:05] <fizyplankton> ux ftw!
#2419 [17:05] <fizyplankton> tux*
#2420 [17:05] <aetherian> u**x
#2421 [17:05] <fizyplankton> unix?
#2422 [17:05] <aetherian> nonono
#2423 [17:05] <aetherian> everyone
#2424 [17:05] <aetherian> BSD :D
#2425 [17:05] <bread> I tried Debian with kfreebsd
#2426 [17:05] <fizyplankton> can some kick this d-bag from the channel?
#2427 [17:05] <bread> and it ran like asshole
#2428 [17:06] <aetherian> fizyplankton: who
#2429 [17:06] <fizyplankton> aetherian:
#2430 [17:06] <fizyplankton> BSD CAN SUCK MY DICK
#2431 [17:06] <bread> u mad?
#2432 [17:06] <aetherian> ...
#2433 [17:07] <NotiCon> aetherian: you made him more crazy than last time i checked here o:
#2434 [17:07] <aetherian> I'm good at that
#2435 [17:07] <fizyplankton> yeah tell me about it
#2436 [17:07] <aetherian> took only like two minutes too
#2437 [17:07] <fizyplankton> grr
#2438 [17:08] <aetherian> fizyplankton: y u no liek bsd
#2439 [17:09] <peru_> i have win xp.. running winamp, for whatever reason i dont know, gives 50% of getting bsod
#2440 [17:09] <bread> lol
#2441 [17:09] <bread> My screensaver is a collection of Windows BSOD screens.
#2442 [17:10] <aetherian> hhaha
#2443 [17:10] <fizyplankton> my screen saver is an animated mime
#2444 [17:10] <aetherian> peru_: I think there's a way to edit what the bsod says by editing some files :o
#2445 [17:10] <peru_> oh kewl
#2446 [17:10] <fizyplankton> probably in regedit
#2447 [17:12] <peru_> In the message table of a file called "ntoskrnl.exe" and it looks like jumbled shit without a program to read it.
#2448 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> <3 the bsod screensaver (:
#2449 [17:12] <Istas> "Your computer has been HOSED. Please don't do whatever you did, again."
#2450 [17:12] <aetherian> nonono
#2451 [17:12] <aetherian> "problem, user?"
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#2453 [17:13] <Istas> "This conversation no longer serves any purpose. End of line."
#2454 [17:13] <peru_> http://hondaswap.com/attachments/11119d1244265139-dsc_1143.jpg
#2455 [17:14] <aetherian> xD
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#2457 [17:15] <fizyplankton> well im gonna go nom
#2458 [17:15] <fizyplankton> omnomnom
#2459 [17:15] * aetherian eats fizyplankton
#2459 [17:15] * DopeGhoti wishes he could nom
#2459 [17:16] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: are you going to get the thing where you wear the teeth?
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#2461 [17:16] <aetherian> that's what my grandfather has, like, most of his teeth can be taken out and put in a whim now.
#2462 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> dentures? Hopefully not yet.
#2463 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> I'm not *that* old
#2464 [17:16] <aetherian> that's what *you* think.
#2465 [17:18] <aetherian> oldy and moldy
#2466 [17:22] <aetherian> awkward silence.
#2467 [17:24] <bread> :D
#2468 [17:26] <aetherian> :D
#2469 [17:27] <aetherian> so you know how some people say a good test for a chatbot is to see if it can trick people into thinking it's a human?
#2470 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: look up the Turing Test sometime
#2471 [17:27] <aetherian> what if someone thinks a human is actually a chatbot
#2472 [17:27] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: I have before .-.
#2473 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: that's part of the turing test.
#2474 [17:27] <aetherian> my point wasn't in that ಠ_ಠ
#2475 [17:27] <aetherian> read the second part
#2476 [17:28] <Kealper> like seriously.....i swear my server is trolling me and spawning creepers in the daylight
#2477 [17:28] <aetherian> problem, kealper?
#2478 [17:28] * Kealper grumbles
#2478 [17:29] <aetherian> :D
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#2482 [17:41] <aetherian> re awkward silence
#2483 [17:41] <aetherian> anyway
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#2491 [17:58] <Ckm2> hey guys, can someone answer fi a large qworld size can cause crashing?
#2492 [17:58] <Kealper> i've seen some cases where people have had worlds that were multiple gigabytes in size, so unless you've got an outlandishly massive map, it shouldn't
#2493 [17:59] <Ckm2> 33gb?
#2494 [17:59] <Kealper> yours is 33gb?
#2495 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> that's.. large.
#2496 [17:59] <Kealper> yeah that might be pushing it....lol
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#2498 [18:00] <Ckm2> nahh, jsut joking, its only 72mb. but i am havign cashign ever 20mins or less now >.<
#2499 [18:00] <Kealper> most i've seen that is confirmed working for people is around 4-5gb
#2500 [18:00] <Kealper> what sort of error does it crash with?
#2501 [18:00] <Istas> I'm having crashes a lot too, Ckm2.
#2502 [18:00] <Kealper> and do you run any mods on your server?
#2503 [18:00] <Kealper> have you ever ran any mods on your server?
#2504 [18:00] <Istas> Doesn't show me an error, the screen just goes black.
#2505 [18:00] <Ckm2> same
#2506 [18:00] <Kealper> oh, single player
#2507 [18:00] <Ckm2> i had a mod once
#2508 [18:01] <Awesome> Ergh, I can't connect to any MP servers. They're online and stuff, but it always reads I time out. Halp?
#2509 [18:01] <Ckm2> on single
#2510 [18:01] <Istas> I'm not running any mods, and not a server, single player.
#2511 [18:01] <Istas> I'm also noticing laggy performance too, that is unusual.
#2512 [18:01] <Istas> Ckm2: I hope they fix whatever's causing our crashes, because it's really irritating. Several times an hour at least, yeah.
#2513 [18:01] <Kealper> Istas: has it ever worked fine for you?
#2514 [18:02] <Kealper> Ckm2: is it just doing it on that one map?
#2515 [18:02] <Kealper> Awesome: try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net
#2516 [18:02] <Istas> Kealper: Yeah, it has worked fine for me in the past.
#2517 [18:02] <Istas> It never crashed this often before
#2518 [18:02] <bread> Kealper help how do I craft mines
#2519 [18:03] <Istas> Before it might be once or twice over the course of an entire day of playing.
#2520 [18:03] <Kealper> bread: with a pickaxe and a life
#2521 [18:03] <bread> :D
#2522 [18:03] <Kealper> bread: both will be broken and gone before you're done :P
#2523 [18:03] <Kealper> Istas: have you tried with a new map?
#2524 [18:03] <bread> what if I don't have a life to start out with? :O
#2525 [18:03] <Awesome> Kealper: Says I'm not premium. It hasn't said that before. And besides that, I bought the game.
#2526 [18:04] <Kealper> also Ckm2 same question: have you tried with a new map
#2527 [18:04] <Istas> Kealper; I'll try, though the map I'm using is only a couple of days old.
#2528 [18:04] <Kealper> Awesome: O.o.....lemme check something...
#2529 [18:04] <Istas> I've found sometimes it won't let me log in... and it turns out it got rid of my password so I have to enter it again
#2530 [18:04] <Kealper> Awesome: try once more? it might have just failed to check the one time
#2531 [18:04] <Istas> Try that, Awesome?
#2532 [18:05] <exertaei> !
#2533 [18:05] <Awesome> Same thing >_<
#2534 [18:05] <Kealper> Awesome: what is your username you are trying?
#2535 [18:06] <Awesome> Uhh... Awesome. Lol.
#2536 [18:06] <Kealper> !paid Awesome
#2537 [18:06] <Kealper> uhh...
#2538 [18:06] <Awesome> WTF?
#2539 [18:06] <Awesome> I bought it.
#2540 [18:06] <Kealper> are you sure that's the right account?
#2541 [18:06] <Awesome> Pretty sure.
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#2543 [18:06] <Awesome> By "pretty sure" I mean, yes.
#2544 [18:06] <calatalee> Hi
#2545 [18:06] <Kealper> calatalee: hi
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#2547 [18:07] <Awesome> Now I am saddened.
#2548 [18:07] <Kealper> Awesome: check your paypal, make sure they didn't reverse the payment, has it worked before, and when did you buy it?
#2549 [18:07] <Kealper> and....can you log in to minecraft.net with that account and play the game?
#2550 [18:08] <calatalee> I have a queston what dose a minecraft gift code get you a prenium account or a discount on the game my friend wants to know
#2551 [18:08] <Kealper> calatalee: it gives you one code that is redeemable for a minecraft premium account
#2552 [18:08] <Awesome> Bought it on a card, hasn't worked before, bought it a couple weeks ago.
#2553 [18:09] <calatalee> ok thx
#2554 [18:09] <Kealper> Awesome: but can you log in to it on the website and play minecraft beta that way?
#2555 [18:09] <Eearslya> All right, quick question regarding hostile mob spawning..
#2556 [18:09] <Kealper> Eearslya: shoot
#2557 [18:09] <Awesome> Yes.
#2558 [18:09] <calatalee> but why is it like 14$ shuldent it be like 30?
#2559 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> Awesome: bought it on a card? As in a prepaid credit card, or an actual card tied to a bank account?
#2560 [18:10] <Awesome> Credit card.
#2561 [18:10] <Kealper> calatalee: it's about $20 USD, and if you buy the game (or a gift code) right now, you get it for 25% off the final price
#2562 [18:10] <Ckm2> kealper
#2563 [18:10] <Kealper> Ckm2: yessir
#2564 [18:10] <calatalee> oh k
#2565 [18:11] <Ckm2> its doing it only on one map ebcause i only have one map that is updated
#2566 [18:11] <Ckm2> my other map is 1.29 or so
#2567 [18:11] <Kealper> Ckm2: just click it to play it, it converts it over
#2568 [18:11] <Eearslya> All right, I've built myself a faily small house (2x4 on the inside, with walls surrounding the perimeter of that) made entirely of wooden planks, including the floor. I have a bed laid down in a corner of the house. But when I try to sleep in it to get to morning, I'm woken almost instantly by a hostile mob spawning right next to me and waking me up. The inside of the house is lit rather brightly with torches. What gives?
#2569 [18:11] <calatalee> dang i need 20$
#2570 [18:11] <Awesome> Eearslya
#2571 [18:11] <Awesome> I WILL ANSWER THIS
#2572 [18:11] <Kealper> Ckm2: you said you had a mod before...what mod was it? and did everything go to crap after that mod was removed?
#2573 [18:11] <Ckm2> i wanna
#2574 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Eearslya - It's a bug with beds, check the wiiki
#2575 [18:12] <Ckm2> nothign went wrong after the mod
#2576 [18:12] <Ckm2> it happened a few weeks alter
#2577 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#2578 [18:12] <Awesome> Eearslya http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/8/89/Bed_Template.png
#2579 [18:12] <Awesome> Do NOT put beds next to walls.
#2580 [18:12] <Ckm2> after
#2581 [18:12] <Ckm2> i had the qunadry mod
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#2583 [18:12] <Awesome> I had the same problem for a couple hours before a friend helped me out.
#2584 [18:12] <Ckm2> and an outlined stone one for findibg fiamond
#2585 [18:13] <Ckm2> !paid ckm2
#2586 [18:13] <Kealper> Ckm2: hmm...because crashing on a specific map consistently usually means that something is corrupt with the map....
#2587 [18:13] <Ckm2> !paid coolkidmad12
#2588 [18:13] <Ckm2> !paid coolkidmad2
#2589 [18:13] <Eearslya> Odd. Because I once had another house with a bed next to a wall and never had this issue..
#2590 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Then you were just lucky
#2591 [18:13] <Ckm2> why didnt it pop up when i put my account name in?
#2592 [18:13] <Ckm2> !paid coolkidmad2
#2593 [18:13] <Ckm2> yay
#2594 [18:14] <Kealper> Eearslya: something else must have been on the other side of the wall that prevented stuff from getting to you
#2595 [18:14] <Ckm2> a second floor works too?
#2596 [18:14] <Ckm2> my bed is 2nd floor against a wall
#2597 [18:14] <Ckm2> i dont get woken up
#2598 [18:14] <Kealper> because it's too high for mobs to get at you
#2599 [18:14] <buddyochoa> There is a bot that tells if you've paid for minecraft?
#2600 [18:15] <Ckm2> yes
#2601 [18:15] <Ckm2> type !paid and your account name
#2602 [18:15] <buddyochoa> !paid buddyochoa
#2603 [18:15] <buddyochoa> Thats an interesting feature
#2604 [18:15] <Kealper> you can PM the bot that command if you feel the need to spam it >.>
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#2606 [18:15] <Kealper> (don't keep doing that in the channel, it's annoying and it's against channel rules)
#2607 [18:16] <buddyochoa> After it answers, theres really no need to ask it again
#2608 [18:16] <Kealper> someone always feels the need to type !paid Notch
#2609 [18:16] <Kealper> always
#2610 [18:17] <Kealper> i should just have it kick the person if they type that >.>
#2611 [18:17] <Guest47192> Is the old version of minecraft not working anymore? Or is it under repair?
#2612 [18:17] <Kealper> Guest47192: minecraft classic? it should still work....
#2613 [18:17] <Eearslya> So if I surround my house with dirt or sand blocks just on the layer next to the bed it should prevent this?
#2614 [18:18] <Kealper> Eearslya: yes lol
#2615 [18:18] <Eearslya> Good. Thanks.
#2616 [18:19] <Istas> I thought it was currenty 25% off no matter which way you bought it? And that it's currently about 15 euros?
#2617 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> It is currently 15 euros, yes, which converts to about 20 dollars USD
#2618 [18:20] <Istas> GreyVulpine: Yeah, but the way it was stated before made it seem like it was a different price when buying a gift code
#2619 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#2620 [18:22] <Eearslya> Also, are dungeons spawning above the surface a bug or just highly unlikely?
#2621 [18:22] <Kealper> highly unlikely
#2622 [18:22] <Kealper> did you find one? lol
#2623 [18:22] <Ckm2> i found one that spawned above ground
#2624 [18:22] <Ckm2> yesterday
#2625 [18:22] <Kealper> :o
#2626 [18:22] <Ckm2> i was wlakin on sand and was liek wtf green cobblestone
#2627 [18:22] <Ckm2> moddy*
#2628 [18:22] <Ckm2> mossy*
#2629 [18:22] <Eearslya> Yeah, found a spider dungeon no more than 10 blocks from my spawn, exposed above ground.
#2630 [18:23] <Ckm2> i got 12 sulfur from that one too
#2631 [18:23] <Ckm2> g2g talk to yall later
#2632 [18:23] <Eearslya> I got gunpowder, string, buckets, and a lot of cool things. :D
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#2634 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> wait, there are creeper spawners?
#2635 [18:23] <Kealper> no
#2636 [18:23] <Jmad360> guys i need some server help
#2637 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> it's a marvel they survive long enough to be found
#2638 [18:23] <Jmad360> our server is very laggy
#2639 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> There's no creeper spawners.. not naturally
#2640 [18:24] <Jmad360> and half the admins wanna just buy more RAM and the other half say we should go buy from servercraft
#2641 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> Jmad360: windows or linux servers?
#2642 [18:24] <Jmad360> windows
#2643 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> Jmad360: switch to a linux server host.
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#2645 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> </OS-holy-war>
#2646 [18:24] <Jmad360> there changing the OS to windows server 2008 standard
#2647 [18:25] <Jmad360> and why?
#2648 [18:25] <Kealper> my server runs windows and serves fine :3
#2649 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> in all seriousness, check the actual RAM usage
#2650 [18:25] <Kealper> ^
#2651 [18:25] <Jmad360> we have 1gb
#2652 [18:25] <Eearslya> Linux, at least in my experience, is a much better server platform at least.
#2653 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> if there's lots of free RAM (actual RAM), you don't need more
#2654 [18:25] <Kealper> not enough
#2655 [18:25] <Kealper> if it's 1gb on windows server 2008....not....enough....
#2656 [18:25] <Jmad360> its not free ram we get messages saying ERROR 100% CPU usage
#2657 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> 1GB is not enough for a proper minecraft server; most of it will be eaten by the OS itself
#2658 [18:26] <Jmad360> yes
#2659 [18:26] <Kealper> get an extra 2gb of ram and it will probably run fine
#2660 [18:26] <Jmad360> so shud we buy 4gbs or go dedicated
#2661 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> "ERROR 100% CPU usage"? What's generating that error?
#2662 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> wait, it's a _virtual_ Windows server?
#2663 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> _Definitely_ change hosts
#2664 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> that's ridiculous
#2665 [18:26] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i think he means warning! can't keep up!
#2666 [18:26] <Jmad360> note we currently host around 15-20 hoping to go to 30-40 slots
#2667 [18:26] <Kealper> uhh
#2668 [18:26] <Jmad360> on 1gb
#2669 [18:26] <Jmad360> which is not good
#2670 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> no wonder you lag a lot
#2671 [18:27] <Kealper> you're hosting 20 people at once off a server that only has 1gb of ram total?
#2672 [18:27] <Jmad360> yea
#2673 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> First of all, fire whoever is making these decisions
#2674 [18:27] <Jmad360> we usually dont allow 20 at once anymore
#2675 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> because they are an idiot
#2676 [18:27] <Kealper> more. ram.
#2677 [18:27] <Jmad360> we allow only 15 max
#2678 [18:27] <Jmad360> but we have atleast 40 people trying to get in
#2679 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> even 5 players with that little RAM will be iffy at best
#2680 [18:27] <Kealper> get atleast 2gb more ram, and allocate 2048mb to the minecraft server
#2681 [18:28] <Jmad360> look simple question...our dedicated pc wit more RAM....or servercraft/other hosting service
#2682 [18:28] <Kealper> also, what kind of connection is that server on? 40 players is going to require atleast a 100mbit connection
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#2684 [18:29] <Jmad360> uh well according to jackson...(Im not sure) our internet is fast enough
#2685 [18:29] <Kurin> rin> Hi everyone, question about multiplayer server, 1.4_1. Other people can seem to connect and it works just fine, but as soon as /I/ connect everyone else lags. I'm serving it localhost, what's going on?
#2686 [18:29] <Kealper> jackson.....413?
#2687 [18:29] <Jmad360> yes
#2688 [18:29] <Kealper> lol...
#2689 [18:29] <Jmad360> i co-own wit him and another guy
#2690 [18:29] <Kealper> get more ram and it'd probably work fine
#2691 [18:30] <Jmad360> ok
#2692 [18:30] <Jmad360> so to clearify ur against servercraft
#2693 [18:30] <IstasPuma> Kealper: I tried starting a new world like you recommended, and it seems to be starting to have the same laggy problem. I haven't crashed yet but then I've only been playing for 5 or 10 minutes. I'll keep trying. (and, before when it was crashing, F3 info said it was only taking up 200 mb of memory or so)
#2694 [18:30] <Kealper> no, just against running a server on 1gb of ram
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#2697 [18:30] <Jmad360> cus 1 admin insists that ram is not the only issue and we shud get servercraft
#2698 [18:31] <Kealper> Kurin: is your computer fast enough to host and play at the same time?
#2699 [18:31] <Kurin> Kealper, 3.2Ghz quadcore, 4GB ram
#2700 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> servercraft is a horrid hosting service
#2701 [18:31] <Kealper> Jmad360: i recommend http://allgamer.net
#2702 [18:31] <Jmad360> this computer is not used for anyything but hosting not even playing
#2703 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> I wouldn't wish servercraft on my enemies
#2704 [18:31] <Jmad360> it is 100% dedicated to the server
#2705 [18:32] <Jmad360> and we leave it online 24/7
#2706 [18:32] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: i'm buildin' a spleef arena :o
#2707 [18:32] <Kealper> it's ghetto, but meh
#2708 [18:32] <Jmad360> jackson said we shud get more ram other people say go get a hosting ocmpany so
#2709 [18:32] <Jmad360> ya
#2710 [18:33] <Kealper> Jmad360: is your current server hosted by a company? or someone's internet?
#2711 [18:33] <Jmad360> somones internet
#2712 [18:33] <Kealper> >.>
#2713 [18:33] <Jmad360> soooo
#2714 [18:33] <IstasPuma> Okay, yup, it just crashed again, so, new world doesn't help. Blank screen, no error message shown in the minecraft program window. (if it stores them in a file somewhere, I don't know where to look)
#2715 [18:33] <Kealper> home internet is normally not cut out to handle that many players
#2716 [18:33] <Jmad360> shud we just add more ram or go dedicated
#2717 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jmad360 requirements/lessrude
#2718 [18:34] <VoxelHead> Jmad360: (requirements/lessrude) 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#2719 [18:34] <VoxelHead> Jmad360: (requirements/lessrude) A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#2720 [18:34] <Kealper> if you need to have something that can handle players, definately get something from AllGamer then, they are pretty cheap for the quality of their servers
#2721 [18:34] <Eearslya> IstasPuma: If you're looking for Minecraft's save files, it'll be in C:\Documents and Settings\YOUR ACCOUNT\Application Data\.minecraft\
#2722 [18:35] <Jmad360> well according to jackson....we shudnt go dedi and hell no are we buying from allgamer
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#2724 [18:35] <Jmad360> they are expensive as hell
#2725 [18:35] <Jmad360> its like 70 bucks for 2gbs
#2726 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> With server hosting, you get what you pay for
#2727 [18:35] <Kealper> Jmad360: are you looking at dedicated servers or their minecraft packages?
#2728 [18:36] <Jmad360> u no what link me to there minecraft package
#2729 [18:36] <Kealper> because dedicated servers will be far more expensive than just having them host everything for you
#2730 [18:36] <Kealper> hmm...
#2731 [18:36] <Kurin> So what's going on with my server? Everyone can connect and play just fine but as soon as I connect, everyone lags (including me).
#2732 [18:37] <Jmad360> link plz?
#2733 [18:37] <Kealper> looks like they changed their stuff around
#2734 [18:37] <Kealper> they don't offer the bigger minecraft servers anymore i guess :/
#2735 [18:37] <AG_Scott> us? o.o
#2736 [18:37] <Jmad360> so?
#2737 [18:38] <Jmad360> then what do i do
#2738 [18:38] <Kealper> AG_Scott: yeah
#2739 [18:38] <AG_Scott> We do.
#2740 [18:38] <AG_Scott> There's the budget servers and the premium servers.
#2741 [18:38] * Kealper looks again
#2741 [18:38] <Jmad360> link me scott
#2742 [18:38] <AG_Scott> https://allgamer.net/gameservers/
#2743 [18:39] <AG_Scott> I wouldn't suggest the budget servers unless you're just running a plain jane server with a couple friends...
#2744 [18:39] <Kealper> AG_Scott: there is just two options for the minecraft one :/
#2745 [18:39] <Kealper> crap, and extra crap >.>
#2746 [18:39] <Kurin> I've got 4GB ram, 3.2Ghz quadcore, checked the server and client processes and running with less than 800MB ram used combined(client 500-ish, server 100-ish). Any ideas?
#2747 [18:39] <AG_Scott> there's 3 minecraft options.
#2748 [18:39] <AG_Scott> Kealper, you're blind or something
#2749 [18:39] <Jmad360> wow 2 gbs=70 dollars?
#2750 [18:39] <Jmad360> is that a joke?
#2751 [18:39] <Kealper> Kurin: use your external IP
#2752 [18:39] <AG_Scott> minecraft classic, minecraft beta premium, and minecraft beta budget
#2753 [18:40] <Kurin> Kealper, Can't, router doesn't forward.
#2754 [18:40] <Kealper> AG_Scott: where are you looking?
#2755 [18:40] <AG_Scott> and no Jmad360 you should look at the other companies that use the same setup as us.
#2756 [18:40] <Kealper> Kurin: internal IP?
#2757 [18:40] <AG_Scott> It's nearly twice as much.
#2758 [18:40] <Jmad360> ok well im looking for a cheap 30 slot
#2759 [18:40] <Kealper> Kurin: anything other than "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" lol
#2760 [18:40] <AG_Scott> We do high performance hosting, not cheap oversold crap.
#2761 [18:40] <Jmad360> i need 30 slots
#2762 [18:40] <AG_Scott> Kealper: https://allgamer.net/gameservers/
#2763 [18:41] <Kealper> OH
#2764 [18:41] <Kealper> i see
#2765 [18:41] <Kurin> Kealper, tried internal (192) and localhost. Nothing. It lags as soon as I connect for everyone, but as soon as I log out (not even close the minecraft client window, just disconnect) it works fine.
#2766 [18:41] <Jmad360> and this cannot be 70 dollars
#2767 [18:41] <Kealper> y'all changed your site around a tad
#2768 [18:41] <AG_Scott> yeah
#2769 [18:41] <Jmad360> becus i can name alot of other companies that offer cheaper for 30 slots
#2770 [18:41] <AG_Scott> Jmad360, well best of luck to you. you really get what you pay for.
#2771 [18:41] <Jmad360> k
#2772 [18:42] <AG_Scott> inb4 *oversold openvz VPS* reseller.
#2773 [18:42] <IstasPuma> Eearslya: Thanks.
#2774 [18:42] <Kealper> ^
#2775 [18:43] <Kurin> Kealper, any other ideas?
#2776 [18:43] <Kealper> if he thinks he's going to run 30-40 people on some openvz crap that i sbeing shared with 200 other people per machine....he's sadly mistaken >.>
#2777 [18:44] <AG_Scott> That's the usual for OpenVZ budget hosting :P
#2778 [18:44] <Kealper> AG_Scott: might i suggest putting like a #1 ribbon or something on the minecraft beta premium hosting image to differentiate it?
#2779 [18:44] <Kealper> something to tell the two appart easier
#2780 [18:45] <Kealper> and i must ask....how many people can that 128mb one hold? lol
#2781 [18:45] <Kealper> like two? lol
#2782 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> barely 2
#2783 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> two, but one at a t ime.
#2784 [18:45] <Kealper> lol
#2785 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> I've got that 128 one from AG_clinton, and with just myself and him on there, it's already pushing 130 megs used.
#2786 [18:46] <Kealper> idk, now that i think about it....it might be good for just like..two people who want to play together but can't due to crappy upload speeds....
#2787 [18:46] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: wow lol
#2788 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> no other plugins besides basic bukkit
#2789 [18:46] <Kealper> oh, i was talking straight vanilla lol
#2790 [18:47] <Kurin> any other ideas?
#2791 [18:48] <Kealper> Kurin: hmm.....has this always done this?
#2792 [18:48] <Kurin> No, only since 1.4. 1.3_1 worked fine.
#2793 [18:48] <Kealper> very strange.....
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#2795 [18:49] <Kealper> i'm actually not quite sure....i haven't heard of any lag issues arising from 1.4
#2796 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Not any new ones at least.
#2797 [18:50] <Kurin> the only other thing that's changed was my FSB multiplier, from 'broken' to 'correct'.
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#2799 [18:50] <Kealper> brb, dog wants something
#2800 [18:50] <Kurin> Mobo was having issues getting the FSB base set (was supposed to be 200, was 240), but fixed that.
#2801 [18:50] <Kurin> but I seriously doubt THAT would cause issues, rather, fix issues.
#2802 [18:51] <Kealper> hmm...
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#2804 [18:52] <Kealper> i'm really not sure then :/
#2805 [18:53] <Kealper> my only suggestion would be to host on a different machine if you have one
#2806 [18:53] <Kurin> Another strange thing is that when I create a brand new server (copy just the executable, then run once), nobody can dig/craft/etc, not even me.
#2807 [18:53] <Kurin> but if I set them an admin, it works.
#2808 [18:53] <Kealper> that's because no one is an op, and you were all too close to spawn
#2809 [18:54] <Kealper> non-ops can not dig around spawn
#2810 [18:54] <Kurin> Is that new?
#2811 [18:54] <Kealper> nope
#2812 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> Kurin smp/opyourself
#2813 [18:54] <VoxelHead> Kurin: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#2814 [18:54] <Kurin> The only other machine I have is my linux server, which I didn't want to set up java on.
#2815 [18:54] <VoxelHead> Kurin: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#2816 [18:55] <Kealper> Kurin: unless you rolled your own kernel, it should have java already
#2817 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> uh
#2818 [18:55] <Kurin> Kealper, uh....no?
#2819 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> the kernel and Java are in no way related.
#2820 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> No. Way.
#2821 [18:56] <Kurin> I'm using vanilla headless debian.
#2822 [18:56] <Kurin> wheezy
#2823 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> ?? lava/linux/debian
#2824 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/linux/debian
#2825 [18:56] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#2826 [18:56] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: To install it, `sudo apt-get sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#2827 [18:56] <Kealper> that's why i said unless he completely made that linux from scratch, it should have java preinstalled from the distro creator
#2828 [18:56] <Kurin> Kealper, the only distro that has java preinstalled is ubuntu.
#2829 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Debian comes with OJDK, not {S,O}JRE
#2830 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> FCVO 'comes with'
#2831 [18:57] <Kealper> openjdk still works :/
#2832 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Yes, it does, but the official stance per minecraft.net is to use the Oracle JRE
#2833 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> even though they're essentially the same
#2834 [18:57] <Kealper> bleh
#2835 [18:58] * Kealper goes away, as he obviously can not state his opinion correctly right now
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#2836 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> if you're having trouble correctly station your opinion, clearly you need a drink.
#2837 [18:59] <Kurin> but even if it works on another machine that doesn't fix the issue of running it on this machine.
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#2839 [19:02] <Jackson413> hey guys i am looking to start a server with a .bat file
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#2841 [19:02] <Jackson413> with x64
#2842 [19:02] <Jackson413> want to start it with 1024mb of ram
#2843 [19:02] <Jackson413> and it is in the root directory
#2844 [19:02] <Jackson413> how do i do so
#2845 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: use the instructions on minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2846 [19:02] <Kealper> uhh
#2847 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> 1024MB of RAM is the default allocation
#2848 [19:03] <Kealper> if it's windows....just run the exe
#2849 [19:03] <Jackson413> no
#2850 [19:03] <Jackson413> trying to start w/ more ram
#2851 [19:03] <Jackson413> and i like the cmd :D
#2852 [19:03] <Kealper> the exe allocates 1024mb of ram :/
#2853 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> perhaps you did not hear me
#2854 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> 1024MB of RAM is the default allocation
#2855 [19:03] <Kealper> but
#2856 [19:03] <Kealper> if you insist
#2857 [19:04] <Kealper> put this next line that i'll say into a .bat file, save, run, heypresto
#2858 [19:04] <Kealper> java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2859 [19:04] <Kealper> and if you want the cmd window instead of the normal window, tag nogui on the end of that
#2860 [19:05] <Jackson413> this works with x64?
#2861 [19:05] <Kealper> yes?
#2862 [19:05] <Kurin> Kealper, what's the s and x?
#2863 [19:05] <Kealper> start and max
#2864 [19:05] <Kurin> Nice
#2865 [19:05] <Kealper> Xms is the number it allocates at startup, Xmx sets the max it is allowed to allocate
#2866 [19:05] <Jackson413> well it starts
#2867 [19:06] <Jackson413> and then disappears
#2868 [19:06] <Kealper> you don't have java in your path
#2869 [19:06] <Kurin> Likely it doesn't know where the java executable is.
#2870 [19:06] <Jackson413> fuck
#2871 [19:06] <Kealper> what version of windows?
#2872 [19:06] <Jackson413> serious?
#2873 [19:06] <Jackson413> windows server 2008 standard x64
#2874 [19:06] <Jackson413> fresh
#2875 [19:06] <Kealper> go to the search bar in the start menu
#2876 [19:07] <Kealper> type env and something about editing enviroment variables should show
#2877 [19:07] <Jackson413> ok?
#2878 [19:07] <Kealper> click that
#2879 [19:07] <Kealper> did a window called Enviroment Variables come up?
#2880 [19:08] <Jackson413> no
#2881 [19:08] <Jackson413> doesnt come up
#2882 [19:08] <Kealper> did you search for "env" in the start menu search. and then click the "Edit enviroment variables for your account" or whatever?
#2883 [19:08] <Jackson413> no doesnt show
#2884 [19:08] <Kealper> bleh
#2885 [19:08] <Jackson413> what is wrong
#2886 [19:09] <Kealper> see the "Computer" button in the start menu?
#2887 [19:09] <Jackson413> yes
#2888 [19:09] <Kealper> right click that and select Properties
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#2890 [19:09] <Kealper> on the lefthand side of that window that just opened, click Advanced system settings
#2891 [19:09] <Jackson413> ok
#2892 [19:10] <Jackson413> ok
#2893 [19:10] <Kealper> there is a button at the bottom right called Enviroment variables...
#2894 [19:10] <Kealper> click that
#2895 [19:10] <Jackson413> ok
#2896 [19:10] <Kealper> now is that window open? lol
#2897 [19:10] <Jackson413> yez
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#2900 [19:10] <Kealper> see the top one that says User variables? is there one in there called PATH? or is there just TMP and TEMP?
#2901 [19:11] <Jackson413> there is Path
#2902 [19:11] <Jackson413> not PATH
#2903 [19:11] <Kealper> not in the system variables spot, the user variables spot, the top one
#2904 [19:11] <Jackson413> oh just temp and tmp
#2905 [19:12] <Kealper> click the new button near the top
#2906 [19:12] <Kealper> name it "PATH" without quotes and all caps
#2907 [19:12] <Jackson413> ok
#2908 [19:12] <Kealper> copy and paste what i'm about to say as the value
#2909 [19:12] <Kealper> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin;
#2910 [19:12] <Kealper> copy that and put it as the value exactly as i said it
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#2913 [19:15] <Jackson413> nada
#2914 [19:16] <Kealper> you did click ok to close those windows out, right?
#2915 [19:16] <Jackson413> yes
#2916 [19:16] <Kealper> oh, you must have the x64 java installed then, open the Enviroment Variables window back up
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#2918 [19:16] <Kealper> and then double click on the PATH variable that you created to open it up for editing
#2919 [19:16] <Jackson413> shit hold on
#2920 [19:16] <red_snow003> test
#2921 [19:17] <Kealper> then just remove the " (x86)" part from the string, save, try again
#2922 [19:17] <Kealper> red_snow003: worked? lol
#2923 [19:17] <red_snow003> yup
#2924 [19:17] <red_snow003> haha
#2925 [19:17] <red_snow003> whats a good minecraft map viewer?
#2926 [19:17] <Kealper> depends what you are looking for in a map viewer
#2927 [19:18] <red_snow003> just general stuff
#2928 [19:18] <Kealper> did you just want it to render images so you could show off your map? or did you want to actually go in and edit it and such?
#2929 [19:18] <red_snow003> where ppl can zoom in and stuff
#2930 [19:18] <red_snow003> like in google maps
#2931 [19:18] <red_snow003> just to show off
#2932 [19:18] <Kealper> a few different ones do that, lemme check which ones support the latest map format
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#2934 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Then either dynmap for bukkit.. or c10t
#2935 [19:19] <Kurin> ok, so trying to get it to work on linux, can't seem to connect. Just getting connection refused, tried portscanning, 25565 says closed, tried binding it to my subnet IP, gives failed to bind to port. suggestions?
#2936 [19:19] <Kealper> but the ones that do the google maps version usually take much longer
#2937 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> red_snow003: check github for 'minecraft overviewer'
#2938 [19:19] <red_snow003> are they fairly easy to install?
#2939 [19:20] <Jackson413> can find it
#2940 [19:20] <Kealper> most are just download and run
#2941 [19:20] <Jackson413> im in the start menu
#2942 [19:20] <Kealper> Jackson413: type "Enviroment Variables" without quotes and press enter
#2943 [19:20] <Kealper> that might work
#2944 [19:20] <Kealper> might...
#2945 [19:20] <Kurin> command I'm running it with: java -Xms512M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2946 [19:21] <Kealper> red_snow003: https://github.com/brownan/Minecraft-Overviewer
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#2948 [19:21] <Jackson413> nope
#2949 [19:21] <Kealper> oh wait, that is python
#2950 [19:21] <Dolla> !check automagicghost.mine.nu
#2951 [19:21] <Kealper> that'll be crappy to use for beginners
#2952 [19:21] <Dolla> *facepalm* oh what now...
#2953 [19:21] <Jackson413> i am totally confused
#2954 [19:22] <Kealper> Jackson413: right then...scroll up and read what i told you before :/
#2955 [19:23] <Kurin> Any suggestions on linux server issues?
#2956 [19:23] <Kealper> Kurin: ask DopeGhoti when it comes to linux issues
#2957 [19:24] <Kealper> red_snow003: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=165779 it doesn't do the google maps view, but it should be pretty straight-forward to use
#2958 [19:25] <red_snow003> thx Kealper
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#2960 [19:27] <Kurin> DopeGhoti, 1.4_1 server, when setting up new, (brand new, no changes to server.properties) I cannot connect to it, netstat shows no open port on UDP or TCP. when editing server.properties to bind to local subnet IP, gives failed to bind to port.
#2961 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> Kurin: hmm. Running any security suites?
#2962 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Kurin - What distro?
#2963 [19:28] <Jackson413> says it is unable to access
#2964 [19:28] <Jackson413> right before it goes awat
#2965 [19:28] <Kurin> DopeGhoti, nope, just iptables that I haven't set up yet. GreyVulpine: debian wheezy, i386
#2966 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti, debian, ipv6
#2967 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> ?? debian/ipv6
#2968 [19:29] <Kurin> Not using ipv6
#2969 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> yes, but java might
#2970 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> ??< index
#2971 [19:29] <Jackson413> kealper: no workie
#2972 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/ipv6
#2973 [19:29] <Kealper> Jackson413: ugh...got teamviewer on it? lol
#2974 [19:29] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#2975 [19:29] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#2976 [19:29] <Jackson413> yes
#2977 [19:29] <Jackson413> pm me
#2978 [19:30] <Kurin> DopeGhoti, goes before the -jar?
#2979 [19:31] <Kurin> DopeGhoti, Yep, worked. Thanks!
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#2985 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> Kurin: that'll be $8 (:
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#2988 [19:37] <qsdcv> FUCKING REDSTONE CIRCUITS, HOW DO THEY WORK?!
#2989 [19:37] <qsdcv> FUCKING REDSTONE CIRCUITS, HOW DO THEY WORK?!
#2990 [19:37] <qsdcv> FUCKING REDSTONE CIRCUITS, HOW DO THEY WORK?! FUCKING REDSTONE CIRCUITS, HOW DO THEY WORK?! FUCKING REDSTONE CIRCUITS, HOW DO THEY WORK?!
#2991 [19:37] <qsdcv> FUCKING REDSTONE CIRCUITS, HOW DO THEY WORK?!
#2992 [19:37] <qsdcv> FUCKING REDSTONE CIRCUITS, HOW DO THEY WORK?!
#2993 [19:37] <qsdcv> FUCKING REDSTONE CIRCUITS, HOW DO THEY WORK?!
#2994 [19:37] * DopeGhoti kicked qsdcv from #minecrafthelp (Reason: qsdcv)
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#2997 [19:42] <aetherian> qsdcv: boolean :D
#2998 [19:45] <luckz> lol
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#3002 [19:58] <Thoatt|busy> Kealper ._.
#3003 [19:58] <Kealper> hmm?
#3004 [19:58] <Thoatt|busy> kchat
#3005 [19:58] <Thoatt|busy> pl0x
#3006 [19:59] <Jackson413> !check 131046
#3007 [19:59] <Jackson413> fail
#3008 [19:59] <Jackson413> !check 68.45.3.94
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#3010 [19:59] <Jackson413> fuck
#3011 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: let's keep this PG-rated, shall we?
#3012 [20:02] <Jackson413> sorry
#3013 [20:02] <Jackson413> i cannot connect to my server
#3014 [20:02] <aetherian> wait wait
#3015 [20:02] <Jackson413> and im mad
#3016 [20:02] <aetherian> I thought this channel was PG-13
#3017 [20:02] <aetherian> o.o
#3018 [20:02] <Jackson413> it is XXX?
#3019 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: that's a PG rating
#3020 [20:02] * VoxelHead is back
#3020 [20:02] <VoxelHead> that's not a passion fruit anyway GV
#3021 [20:02] <aetherian> heh
#3022 [20:02] <Jackson413> huh?
#3023 [20:02] <VoxelHead> -_-
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#3026 [20:08] <luckz> what is !check
#3027 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Checks to see if Port 25565 on an ip can be reached via TCP
#3028 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> luckz: checkes to see if a server is accessible to new TCP connections
#3029 [20:09] <Jackson413> kealper: ok
#3030 [20:10] <VoxelHead> Mmm BarryCarlyon.
#3031 [20:10] <aetherian> heh
#3032 [20:10] <VoxelHead> ;)
#3033 [20:10] <aetherian> just installed vmware 3.14, never noticed it was that version. what fun!
#3034 [20:10] <luckz> jolly fun!
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#3036 [20:11] <aetherian> jolly good
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#3038 [20:26] <Kealper> Jackson413: read what i'm saying in PM ._.
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#3040 [20:27] <VoxelHead> bye Dreadlindwyrm, in accordance with my master's thesis on the Legend of Zelda
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#3043 [20:30] <alec> Hey everyone. >.> Can anyone help me with a corrupted save?
#3044 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> How was it corrupted?
#3045 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> alec: possibly
#3046 [20:30] <alec> Well, i was playing last night, and out of nowhere, lightning struck somewhere nearby, and killed our power
#3047 [20:31] <alec> So, I just booted it up today, and my save, world3/In Your World isn't in my world list
#3048 [20:31] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#3049 [20:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#3049 [20:31] <alec> I czeched my .minecraft saves folder, and world3's folder looks nothing like the others. =/
#3050 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> There's a good chance a map editor, MCedit, can recover that world for you
#3051 [20:32] <alec> Even if the only folder in that save is "regions"?
#3052 [20:32] <VoxelHead> exeter
#3053 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Try it.
#3054 [20:32] <alec> Mkay, thank you...
#3055 [20:32] <luckz> alec: did windows (or what other OS you may be using) maybe create volume shadow copies of some of the files in there?
#3056 [20:32] <luckz> ("Previous Versions")
#3057 [20:33] <alec> I'm running 7. I'm not sure. =/ Where would I look for that?
#3058 [20:33] <alec> Appdata?
#3059 [20:34] <alec> (downloading MCedit atm, btw)
#3060 [20:34] <Jackson413> test
#3061 [20:34] <Jackson413> hmm
#3062 [20:35] <alec> GreyVulpine, should I just try to open the world with MCedit? I've never used it before.
#3063 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: C+
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#3065 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Alec, yes, just open the world, then save it again
#3066 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> (ctrl-s)
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#3068 [20:40] <alec> Sorry, internet went out. Did you get my question?
#3069 [20:40] <alec> Okay, thanks. Opened it, it all seems to be here..
#3070 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> alec: now hit ctrl+S
#3071 [20:42] <Ir0nman> anyone plugins anyone can recommend on running minecraft on a intel atom
#3072 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> Other than "don't"?
#3073 [20:44] <alec> Alright, done, lemme see if it worked.
#3074 [20:44] <AG_Scott> there's that optimine thing
#3075 [20:44] <alec> DopeGhoti, I think you love you.
#3076 [20:44] <alec> XD
#3077 [20:45] <AG_Scott> I'm he loves himself too!
#3078 [20:45] <alec> DopeGhoti, thank you so much, it worked.
#3079 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> alec: Delighted to hear it worked. That'll be $8 (:
#3080 [20:45] <AG_Scott> only $8?
#3081 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> and yes, I do have a heathly sense of self-respect
#3082 [20:45] <alec> Hows about my undying gratitude? :P
#3083 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> meh, that'll do (:
#3084 [20:45] <alec> Off to mine! :D
#3085 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: low-volune, high-traffic (:
#3086 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> alec: have fun! \o
#3087 [20:46] <alec> *poofs*
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#3089 [20:48] <alec> Back, just to say that somehow through that MCedit, my lone wolf was cloned. XD
#3090 [20:48] <xolotl> Nice
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#3093 [20:52] <shergreen> hey i'm having some trouble getting my gift code to work
#3094 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#3095 [20:52] <shergreen> my friend sent it to me
#3096 [20:52] <shergreen> and it says Woah! whenever i put it in
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#3098 [20:54] <shergreen> do you know if there's anything i can do?
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#3100 [20:55] <curtisalanmcgee> I need help from people who have bought the game. Any takers?
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#3102 [20:56] <curtisalanmcgee> I need help from people who have bought the game. Any takers? Please!
#3103 [20:56] <Espeon> ?ask
#3104 [20:56] <Espeon> Bleh
#3105 [20:57] <Espeon> curtisalanmcgee: ask and whatever
#3106 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> curtisalanmcgee - With?
#3107 [20:57] <curtisalanmcgee> I have a visa gift debit card. Can I buy it with that?
#3108 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> curtisalanmcgee - Most likely, no.
#3109 [20:57] <AG_Scott> Some work, some don't.
#3110 [20:57] <AG_Scott> You'll just have to try it.
#3111 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> ??>> Espeon help
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#3113 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> ?? prepaid
#3114 [20:58] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#3115 [20:58] <AG_Scott> They said something about more payment gateways soon.
#3116 [20:58] <curtisalanmcgee> Yes. You are right. I will have to try it out.
#3117 [20:58] <curtisalanmcgee> Just thought I would ask.
#3118 [20:58] <curtisalanmcgee> Thank you!
#3119 [20:59] <shergreen> GreyVulpine Do you have a recommendation for me?
#3120 [20:59] <VoxelHead> yes
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#3122 [21:01] <Kurin> Hi everyone, how much upload does the client typically use, to go to the server? I've got a client that seems to be sending me a LOT Of data.
#3123 [21:02] <dopeghoti> Kurin: there's a lot of bandwidth use because the terrain is constantly in flux
#3124 [21:02] <shergreen> Does nobody know how to help me redeem this darn code?
#3125 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> shergreen - Does the gift code appear in (xxxx-xxxx-xxxx) format?
#3126 [21:02] <dopeghoti> shergreen: if it's not accepting your code, email payment@mojang.com and explain the issue
#3127 [21:02] <Kurin> 200KB/s near constantly being SENT from a client?
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#3129 [21:02] <dopeghoti> ciao #MinecraftHelp
#3130 [21:03] <shergreen> Yes it appears in that format, GreyVulpine
#3131 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Seems a bit on the high side Kurin, but it doesn't surprise me
#3132 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> shergreen - Who did you get the gift code from?
#3133 [21:03] <shergreen> JJablonski
#3134 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Average upload I've seen, is about 100-150k
#3135 [21:03] <Kurin> I'd think the client would barely send anything to the server, it'd all be sent FROM the server TO the client.
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#3139 [21:06] <Kurin> So you would say it's normal for the client to send LOTS of data to the server but not the other way around, server sending data to the client?
#3140 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hm, I don't think I've taken notice of the client->server communications.
#3141 [21:08] <Kurin> that's where I'm noticing it. not server sending 200KByte/s up to the client, client sending 200KByte/s down to the server.
#3142 [21:09] <Kurin> seems extremely strange.
#3143 [21:09] <VoxelHead> i like them :-)
#3144 [21:09] <shergreen> w
#3145 [21:09] <shergreen> well ppooooopppp
#3146 [21:10] <Kurin> would anyone else want to try my server so I can monitor what they're sending? Maybe the person I'm watching has a virus or something.
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#3148 [21:12] <bonwii> This is my first time using IRC
#3149 [21:12] <bonwii> I have some trouble with a minecraft server running from my box
#3150 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> bonwii - What kind of trouble?
#3151 [21:12] <Kurin> what kind of trouble?
#3152 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Kurin - Address?
#3153 [21:12] <bonwii> So from the beginning - I'll keep it short
#3154 [21:12] <bonwii> I setup a Minecraft Beta server
#3155 [21:12] <bonwii> Runs great
#3156 [21:13] <bonwii> Connected from the same box via the client
#3157 [21:13] <bonwii> Works perfect
#3158 [21:13] <bonwii> Setup a buddy with hamachi and same for myself
#3159 [21:13] <bonwii> He connects and everything is smooth sailing
#3160 [21:13] <bonwii> Second friend buys the game last night
#3161 [21:13] <bonwii> He logs in from his laptop (also using hamachi)
#3162 [21:13] <bonwii> Plays for 30 seconds - 5 minutes
#3163 [21:13] <bonwii> Then disconnect.overflow
#3164 [21:13] <bonwii> I tried his account from two other computers (including mine)
#3165 [21:14] <bonwii> And it happens every time
#3166 [21:14] <bonwii> What's confusing is it seems to be his account... and not which local machine he's on
#3167 [21:14] <bonwii> Any ideas?
#3168 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> I'm fairly certain, it's not an account issue. There's no account flag for "Screw this person over".
#3169 [21:15] <bonwii> Very true, maybe you could offer a different route?
#3170 [21:15] <VoxelHead> Do you really want to know that?
#3171 [21:16] <bonwii> We tried his log-in on three seperate computers
#3172 [21:16] <bonwii> 2 of them (Mine and my 1st buddies') are both working perfect on our log-ins
#3173 [21:16] <Kurin> GreyVulpine, marupa.net
#3174 [21:16] <bonwii> Logged into either of ours, everything is great
#3175 [21:16] <shergreen> Can someone direct me to a good place to figure out my problem
#3176 [21:17] <bonwii> As soon as you log in to his it's disconnect.overflow
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#3178 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> The issue with Hamachi is that it it's a VPN software, with overhead, and minecraft's netcode is in no way optimized
#3179 [21:17] <Kurin> GreyVulpine, only seeing around 40-70Kbit from you
#3180 [21:18] <bonwii> I would understand that - and due to internet researching found someone who'd even written a program to help with the overhead, however,
#3181 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> I'm only seeing 10-20k upload from my machine
#3182 [21:18] <bonwii> Why would his account have troubles from my machine?
#3183 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> er, kilobytes
#3184 [21:18] <Kurin> Strange. I've got 90KByte/s upload.
#3185 [21:18] <bonwii> My machine is hosting the server and isn't going through Hamachi
#3186 [21:18] <Kurin> prior to 1.4 I could handle 4 people with no issue.
#3187 [21:19] <shergreen> This makes me sad. :(
#3188 [21:19] <bonwii> When I refer to the disconnect.overflow - I mean he was the only one logged in to the server
#3189 [21:19] <bonwii> Not that there was three total... we disconnected to work on his problem
#3190 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Ah, hmm
#3191 [21:19] <bonwii> When you log in as him, and he's alone on the server, and it doesn't matter which machine.....
#3192 [21:20] <bonwii> He lags out.
#3193 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Has he tried other servers?
#3194 [21:20] <bonwii> Not that I'm aware of - he tried single player just to see if it was his machine somehow.. and single player worked great
#3195 [21:20] <bonwii> Good idea though...
#3196 [21:20] <bonwii> We can try other MP servers
#3197 [21:20] <Kurin> GreyVulpine, any idea what could be causing the lag?
#3198 [21:21] <VoxelHead> Cycling.
#3199 [21:21] <bonwii> And I was considering having him try playing the game through a browswer instead of from the .exe
#3200 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> bonwii - The browser would use more resources than the exe
#3201 [21:21] <Kurin> even at peak, was only showing around 50KB/s...
#3202 [21:21] <bonwii> soo probably moving in the wrong direction...
#3203 [21:21] <bonwii> That sucks
#3204 [21:22] <bonwii> I'm lost as to why it would be a problem on all three machines but only on his log in
#3205 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Kurin - I don't know.. 200k for client->server doesn't make much sense
#3206 [21:22] <bonwii> If it helps, I logged in as me on his rig
#3207 [21:22] <bonwii> And it worked perfect
#3208 [21:23] <Kurin> even 200Kbit for client to server doesn't make too much sense.
#3209 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> bonwii - How long did he try your login for?
#3210 [21:23] <bonwii> Around 10 minutes
#3211 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> A reasonable length?
#3212 [21:23] <bonwii> I wanted to be sure it didn't d/c.overflow
#3213 [21:23] <bonwii> Since his was doing it at around 30 seconds - 5 minutes
#3214 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Does it d/c pretty fast on his account?
#3215 [21:23] <bonwii> I ran my login for around 10
#3216 [21:23] <bonwii> Yah real quick
#3217 [21:24] <bonwii> And it'll say he d/c and reconnect
#3218 [21:24] <bonwii> And he'll never see it
#3219 [21:24] <bonwii> If we're both in he can't see me moving and building...
#3220 [21:24] <bonwii> He sees the blocks changing but not me
#3221 [21:24] <bonwii> Then BAM - lag d/c
#3222 [21:24] <bonwii> When I say lag d/c I'm just assuming it's due to lag
#3223 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Really.. the only thing that follows a login, are skins..
#3224 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> And I haven't heard of that thing causing any errors with overflows
#3225 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Graphics/video settings are set local to the computer..
#3226 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Look at his NIC, and update drivers?
#3227 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Just to eliminate it as a suspect.
#3228 [21:26] <bonwii> I will do that
#3229 [21:26] <bonwii> It's a good idea
#3230 [21:26] <bonwii> But, why would it fail on my machine
#3231 [21:26] <bonwii> And my buddies
#3232 [21:26] <bonwii> They run the game for us on our logins perfect
#3233 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Still thinking..
#3234 [21:26] <Kurin> Are there any strange characters in the login name?
#3235 [21:27] <bonwii> not at all
#3236 [21:27] <Ckm2> so hey
#3237 [21:27] <Ckm2> if you have paid for miencraft, do you ahve to pay again for theupdated multiplayer?
#3238 [21:27] <Kurin> no
#3239 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Ckm2 - Nope
#3240 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Once you paid for minecraft, you get all bug fixes, all updates, and the final release
#3241 [21:28] <Ckm2> i already bought it
#3242 [21:28] <Ckm2> im jsut not sure how to get the multiplayer
#3243 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean? The multiplayer/server software?
#3244 [21:29] <Ckm2> just to play onlien wtih otherpeople
#3245 [21:29] <Ckm2> i dont know how to get to that
#3246 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Do you want to connect to other servers, or run your own?
#3247 [21:29] <Ckm2> connect
#3248 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Then, you can choose Multiplayer at the main menu..
#3249 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> and use one of these sites
#3250 [21:29] <VoxelHead> Choose a career.
#3251 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#3252 [21:29] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3253 [21:29] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#3255 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Thousands of beta servers are run by fans.
#3256 [21:31] <Ckm2> thank you guys :)
#3257 [21:31] <Ckm2> you can be killed?
#3258 [21:32] <bonwii> Depends on the server
#3259 [21:32] <bonwii> Some are pvp and others aren't
#3260 [21:32] <bonwii> And vulpine
#3261 [21:32] <bonwii> When the buddy logs in... occasionally it doesn't let him do anything
#3262 [21:32] <bonwii> No breaking or picking up bricks
#3263 [21:32] <bonwii> And he's in the ops.txt
#3264 [21:33] <bonwii> And I even do an in-server /op (username) to promote him
#3265 [21:33] <bonwii> And it won't change it
#3266 [21:33] <Kurin> Any ideas why, even though I'm not hitting max upload speed, I'm getting lag?
#3267 [21:33] <bonwii> Video lag maybe Kurin
#3268 [21:33] <bonwii> Or processor lag if you've got scans or anything running in the background
#3269 [21:33] <Kurin> bonwii, no, this is rubberbanding and such.
#3270 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Kurin - Most likely culprit, 1.3/1.4 netcode
#3271 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> It's pretty a known issue right now
#3272 [21:34] <Kurin> GreyVulpine, any workarounds?
#3273 [21:34] <VoxelHead> Only with fruit.
#3274 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Turn off monsters/animals
#3275 [21:34] <Kurin> In other words: Peaceful mode. bleh.
#3276 [21:34] * GreyVulpine nods
#3276 [21:34] <Kurin> Ew >.<
#3277 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> I've brought this issue up with Mojang, they're aware of it, and working on it
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#3279 [21:34] <Kurin> Oh well
#3280 [21:35] <bonwii> Vulpine - do you think deleting his <playername>.dat from the server files would help and cause a player reset?
#3281 [21:35] <VoxelHead> Yes.
#3282 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> It would cause a player reset, yes. Clears his inventory and resets his player location
#3283 [21:35] <bonwii> K I'll give that a run
#3284 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if it will help though
#3285 [21:35] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead
#3285 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Dang bot.
#3286 [21:36] <VoxelHead> What.
#3287 [21:36] <bonwii> Worth a try I suppose
#3288 [21:36] <bonwii> Voxel = bot?
#3289 [21:36] <VoxelHead> yes, but only at the weekend
#3290 [21:36] <Mazel> I am running a private minecraft server for my wife and I. Does anyone know how I can load a new skin for her character? We did it through the profile section on the main site. However, my client wasn't seeing her avatar in game. Do I need to load the new skin on my local client or on the server?
#3291 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> No Mazel. As long as you use the profile page to upload the skin, it should work
#3292 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Remember to restart the client afterwards
#3293 [21:37] <Mazel> Ah. ok thanks!
#3294 [21:37] <bonwii> Ok so let's say I consider losing the Hamachi
#3295 [21:37] <bonwii> Even if it isn't the problem... it's still a problem
#3296 [21:37] <bonwii> How do I still get them connected to the server?
#3297 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding
#3298 [21:38] <Kurin> well, thanks for the info, any idea on when the netcode will be fixed? (1.9 or later?)
#3299 [21:38] <bonwii> Port forwarding on mah router?
#3300 [21:38] <Kurin> Yes, port 25565
#3301 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Kurin - Sorry, Mojang didn't give me an ETA on it, just that they've recognized it
#3302 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> I'll need to send them another followup email, detailing what I've seen so far
#3303 [21:39] <Kurin> Definitely let them know what I've seen. Same thing on linux and windows.
#3304 [21:39] * GreyVulpine nods.
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#3305 [21:39] <bonwii> Do I want to route all 25565 through port 80?
#3306 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> No, 25565 to 25565
#3307 [21:40] <bonwii> Oh ok
#3308 [21:40] <Kurin> unless you want to run m ore than one, just 25565 to 25565
#3309 [21:40] <bonwii> And at that point no more hamachi?
#3310 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Right
#3311 [21:40] <bonwii> Just servername:25565
#3312 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Just servername
#3313 [21:40] <Kurin> no need for the :25565 unless you're running more than one.
#3314 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> You don't need :25565 unless it's not default
#3315 [21:41] <aetherian> hehe
#3316 [21:41] <bonwii> Okie dokie
#3317 [21:41] <bonwii> When I set up hamachi it gave me an IP
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#3319 [21:41] <bonwii> that I was to use for the server
#3320 [21:41] <bonwii> What IP will I use if I drop hamachi?
#3321 [21:41] <Kurin> bonwii: go to www.whatismyip.com
#3322 [21:42] <bonwii> And use my public for the server then?
#3323 [21:42] <Kurin> use the one that you see there.
#3324 [21:42] <Mazel> Another question. In the local game there is a Difficulty option that can be set. Can that be replicated on a private server?
#3325 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Mazel - indirectly. You can have difficulty set to normal, by enabling monsters... or peaceful by disabling it
#3326 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> There's no other difficulty settings you can do on the server
#3327 [21:43] <bonwii> Do you think a texture pack would have caused this? I changed my texture pack up to the Albion 64 x 64
#3328 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> bonwii - That's only clientside
#3329 [21:43] <Mazel> Ok saw that option in server.properties
#3330 [21:43] <bonwii> K that's what I was thinking
#3331 [21:43] <bonwii> Thanks soo much for all the help guys
#3332 [21:43] <bonwii> It was helpful just to be able to talk to someone who had new ideas
#3333 [21:43] <GreyVulpine> It's what we're here for.
#3334 [21:43] <bonwii> As I had become very frustrated
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#3336 [21:44] <Mazel> Is there a seed generator for a server similar to local game?
#3337 [21:44] <bonwii> I have one other question
#3338 [21:44] <Mazel> Or can I generate a seeded map locally and then use it on the server?
#3339 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes, in 1.4, there's a seed field in server.properties now
#3340 [21:44] <bonwii> On the port forwarding
#3341 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> You can also do that Mazel
#3342 [21:45] <oldtopman> Mazel: I believe they added a seed thing into server.properties. You can also move from SSP if you desire
#3343 [21:45] <bonwii> I've set internal to 25565 and external 25565
#3344 [21:45] <Mazel> Ah the level-seed option?
#3345 [21:45] <bonwii> it asks
#3346 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Right Mazel
#3347 [21:45] <bonwii> to what Ip
#3348 [21:45] <Mazel> Thanks all for you time and answers :)
#3349 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> bonwii - To the internal IP of the server
#3350 [21:45] <bonwii> 192.168.1.() empty box
#3351 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on bonwii?
#3352 [21:45] <bonwii> 7
#3353 [21:45] <bonwii> win
#3354 [21:45] <VoxelHead> 7!
#3355 [21:46] <oldtopman> bonwii: ipconfig
#3356 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Okay, go to the start menu, type in the search bar: cmd
#3357 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> at the black command prompt, type: ipconfig
#3358 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> You'll want the ipv4 address there
#3359 [21:46] <bonwii> sweet
#3360 [21:46] <bonwii> that's what I did
#3361 [21:46] <VoxelHead> sweeeeeeet
#3362 [21:46] <bonwii> just double checking
#3363 [21:46] <bonwii> Yet again.. you're my heroes
#3364 [21:50] <Mazel> Is there a save file for multiplayer that I can backup? Something that I can grab when she wants to do a 'save point' type thing.
#3365 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Yes, the entire "world" folder in the same directory where you have the server
#3366 [21:50] <aetherian> you mean the world?
#3367 [21:50] <Mazel> yea
#3368 [21:50] <Mazel> Is that just the region folder?
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#3370 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> The "world" folder is the entire world of the server
#3371 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> It's pointed by server.properties, by level-name=world
#3372 [21:52] <Mazel> If I leave the server client running, but nobody is connected does time pass in game?
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#3374 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3375 [21:53] <Kurin> isn't it that the 'sun' only starts once one person has logged in once?
#3376 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I don't know.
#3377 [21:57] <Mazel> Another question. When I created my account at minecraft.net I used what is typically my 'account' name. But it isn't the name I want to be my player. Is there a way I can change my name?
#3378 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, not at this time.
#3379 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> I emailed Mojang on that issue, got a response today..
#3380 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> "We are looking into how to make a name change but havent decided yet how to to it."
#3381 [21:59] <Mazel> Grey you are full of great info :)
#3382 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Heh, comes with spending way too much time here.
#3383 [22:02] <Mazel> Is there a way to 'create' a waterfall / river?
#3384 [22:02] <Mazel> that I can probably just do a google on
#3385 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> You can move water with buckets..
#3386 [22:03] <CyborgDragon> hey GreyVulpine
#3387 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3388 [22:04] <CyborgDragon> wanted to talk about the #Risucraft situation
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#3390 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#3391 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> You can PM me if you wish.
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#3395 [22:14] <luckz> what is the ""situation""
#3396 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing to worry about.
#3397 [22:15] <Ckm2> so if i am playing an onliens erver and connection is lsot , try to sign bnack and it says it sifull, server went down or?
#3398 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Then the server is full..
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#3401 [22:19] <Hexi_Hamaski> so I'm trying to get my gf playing over our lan with me, but every time she connects to my server she disconnects after 10 seconds
#3402 [22:19] <xales> What error does she get when she disconnects?
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#3404 [22:19] <Hexi_Hamaski> timeout waaay after my server logs her disco
#3405 [22:20] <xales> "Connection timed out"?
#3406 [22:20] <Hexi_Hamaski> yes
#3407 [22:20] <Mazel> My wife was having same problem. She had to turn down view distance
#3408 [22:20] <Hexi_Hamaski> huh
#3409 [22:20] <Hexi_Hamaski> she never actually logs in
#3410 [22:20] <Hexi_Hamaski> but I'll try that
#3411 [22:20] <xales> Hexi_Hamaski: Is she able to connect to _other_ servers?
#3412 [22:20] <Mazel> oh maybe not the same then
#3413 [22:20] <Mazel> my wife would actually be online
#3414 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Hexi_Hamaski - Can anybody else connect to your server?
#3415 [22:21] <Mazel> And it was Rendering distance
#3416 [22:21] <Hexi_Hamaski> yes someone else can
#3417 [22:21] <Hexi_Hamaski> that fixed it thanks mazel
#3418 [22:21] <Hexi_Hamaski> :D
#3419 [22:21] <Hexi_Hamaski> you rock
#3420 [22:21] <VoxelHead> =)
#3421 [22:22] <Mazel> woot! got one :)
#3422 [22:22] <VoxelHead> aw... your little robot toy is broken
#3423 [22:22] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead
#3423 [22:22] <VoxelHead> *squeaky*
#3424 [22:22] <Hexi_Hamaski> eeeeh lets go look at the monkeys
#3425 [22:23] <Hexi_Hamaski> is there any way to add dungeons to my server? or am I just stupid with settings
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#3427 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Dungeons are randomly generated, like everything else
#3428 [22:24] <Hexi_Hamaski> so its just that I haven't found any caves
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#3432 [22:36] <jwis921> hello
#3433 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3434 [22:37] <jwis921> can i get some help
#3435 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> With?
#3436 [22:37] <jwis921> minecraft. i have been posted on mcbans with a comprimised account but its not and I need to prove it
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#3438 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> http://wiki.mcbans.com/index.php?title=Player
#3439 [22:39] <jwis921> but i need to know how to prove that i own it
#3440 [22:39] <xales> Ask in #mcbans
#3441 [22:39] <Ckm2> !paid jwis921
#3442 [22:40] <jwis921> wait what
#3443 [22:40] <xales> We aren't affiliated with MCBans and can't help you
#3444 [22:40] <xales> Ask in the #mcbans channel
#3445 [22:40] <xales> /join #mcbans
#3446 [22:40] <jwis921> well i just thought you guys would yhave proof that i own it
#3447 [22:41] <xales> We are community support. We can't help with account issues, as the topic says
#3448 [22:41] <jwis921> okay thanks
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#3450 [22:41] <qsdcv> Hello...?
#3451 [22:41] <xales> Hi
#3452 [22:42] <qsdcv> This seems a bit boring. :/
#3453 [22:42] <qsdcv> I'm gonna do what I do best here.
#3454 [22:42] <qsdcv> TROLL
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#3456 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Heh, Notch's twitter said his gmail account was at 99%
#3457 [22:43] <xales> O_o
#3458 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/notch/status/57595966802493441
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#3460 [22:43] <Hexi_Hamaski> is it possible to change spawn point?
#3461 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> With a mod or map editor, yes
#3462 [22:44] <Hexi_Hamaski> bler
#3463 [22:44] <xales> GreyVulpine: Enjoying wolves, by the way?
#3464 [22:44] <VoxelHead> i'll tell ya later
#3465 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> haven't done much with wolves just yet
#3466 [22:44] <xales> VoxelHead: I'm a wolf!
#3467 [22:44] <xales> :|
#3468 [22:44] <xales> I'm a wolf!
#3469 [22:44] <Hexi_Hamaski> I know you can tp to a player but can you tp to a co ordinate?
#3470 [22:44] * xales smacks VoxelHead
#3470 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Not with vanilla Hexi_Hamaski
#3471 [22:45] <VoxelHead> arrgh my manboob! now i only have 25 left
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#3473 [22:45] <xales> O_o
#3474 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> You'll need a mod
#3475 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> That is so not me.
#3476 [22:45] <Hexi_Hamaski> u.u
#3477 [22:45] * Hexi_Hamaski walks back to hir desert
#3477 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear..
#3478 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Notch - "MUOAHAHA! Thunder Storms lower the brightness. That means daytime monsters during storms. This is freakily atmospheric."
#3479 [22:45] <VoxelHead> You dare insult to chaps of VoxelHead*~~*$*!$#.
#3480 [22:46] <xales> VoxelHead, shut up :|
#3481 [22:46] <xales> GreyVulpine: This should be fun
#3482 [22:46] * xales bbl
#3482 [22:46] <tm258> can anyone here provide help getting Minetographer working?
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#3484 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help?
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#3486 [22:49] <tm258> GreyVulpine: I'm trying to run it on Arch Linux. i'm running the jar from the command line, but the gui doesn't come up. it just gives me the help output from Tectonicus
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#3489 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin the output of the command line?
#3490 [22:51] <tm258> GreyVulpine: was just doing that :) here: http://pastebin.com/gxCjfgPr
#3491 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#3492 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> With tectonicus, it's all command line..
#3493 [22:53] <tm258> right, but i'm actually running minetographer. that's why i'm confused
#3494 [22:54] <Mazel> ok this is sad. Wife and I are running through seed names. Son lets out a silent but very deadly. So at a loss for my next seed I use 'passinggas'. And it actually is an interesting looking world
#3495 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Haha
#3496 [22:54] <VoxelHead> you're after my robot bee%percent~^$@@##
#3497 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> tm258 - What is inside the lib folder?
#3498 [22:55] <Hexi_Hamaski> x3
#3499 [22:55] <Hexi_Hamaski> omg
#3500 [22:56] <tm258> GreyVulpine: forms-1.2.1.jar, mac_widgets-0.9.5.jar, mail.jar, Tectonicus.jar
#3501 [22:57] <fizyplankton> lol mazel
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#3503 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, tm258, doesn't look like the linux GUI version really works
#3504 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Example command line that one person says works, is with this:
#3505 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> java -jar /home/jmt/Downloads/Minetographer0.7.0/Minetographer.jar minecraftJar=/home/jmt/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar worldDir=1 outputDir=/home/jmt/Documents/Minetographer/World1 numSamples=0
#3506 [22:59] <tm258> GreyVulpine: ah, ok. i noticed the forum post said it hadn't been tested, i think. that's a shame
#3507 [22:59] <fizyplankton> and what is that for?
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#3509 [23:10] <Hexi_Hamaski> holy crapple I just made a ton of obsidian
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#3512 [23:26] <tm258> GreyVulpine: oh, that reminds me of another question. i've also tried running tectonicus itself from the command line, and i'm getting a seg fault every time when generating the compass image: http://pastebin.com/yJCB7gMs
#3513 [23:26] <Hexi_Hamaski> and now my gf can't connect to my server again and this time fixing the draw distance doesn't help
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