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#7 [00:12] <mib_h2feg8> I am having log in issues. For two days now my account log in is giving me the error message "account throttled, to many log in attempts, please try again in a few minutes." Even after leaving it for hours. Any advise?
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#10 [00:12] <Hexi_Hamaski> x.x 20x20 sandstone pyramid... why did I start this monstrocity
#11 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_h2feg8 - Somebody else trying to connect as you?
#12 [00:13] <mib_h2feg8> I successfully changed the password to clear that possability
#13 [00:13] <mib_h2feg8> without success
#14 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> But somebody's using your username to log in, unsuccessfully.
#15 [00:14] <mib_h2feg8> Is there a way to block or change that?
#16 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Not.. really.
#17 [00:15] <mib_h2feg8> any suggestions? :(
#18 [00:16] <Hexi_Hamaski> change your username maybe
#19 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Can't
#20 [00:17] <mib_h2feg8> There really isnt any kind of Tech support available is there?
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#22 [00:21] <mib_h2feg8> Thank you for your thoughts anyway :)
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#24 [00:34] <VoxelHead> master?
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#26 [00:38] <aetherian> VoxelHead: yes?
#27 [00:38] <VoxelHead> www.google.com in a vagina
#28 [00:38] <aetherian> ...
#29 [00:38] <aetherian> VoxelHead: PG rated. PG rated, my friend. or, at least, so they say.
#30 [00:40] <Floris> i like vaginas
#31 [00:40] <Floris> :D
#32 [00:40] <VoxelHead> :)
#33 [00:40] * oldtopman hugs VoxelHead
#33 [00:40] * aetherian stabs vox
#33 [00:40] <mib_na55qy> ;)
#34 [00:40] <VoxelHead> thanks
#35 [00:40] <aetherian> you're welcome
#36 [00:41] <mib_na55qy> ;
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#40 [00:49] <Hexi_Hamaski> hmmm why won't this portal light..
#41 [00:49] <VoxelHead> =]
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#43 [00:53] * VoxelHead is away: toilet
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#44 [00:53] <Hexi_Hamaski> its not lightng because I'm stupid
#45 [00:53] <Hexi_Hamaski> XD
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#47 [01:01] <Hexi_Hamaski> does the nether not work on multiplayer sims? I've been standing in my portal a while
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#49 [01:04] <NotiCon> did you make it proper?
#50 [01:04] <Hexi_Hamaski> its lit 5x4
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#52 [01:08] <xales> Hexi_Hamaski: The Nether does not work on SMP (multiplayer), no
#53 [01:11] <aetherian> pity, too.'
#54 [01:13] <Hexi_Hamaski> aw
#55 [01:13] <Hexi_Hamaski> and here I have a pyramid... 20x20 pyramid made just for my portal :(
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#67 [02:30] <aetherian> 50+minute only join and quit c-c-c-combo breaker :D
#68 [02:30] <NotiCon> silly
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#70 [02:32] <aetherian> that I may be.
#71 [02:32] <aetherian> at times.
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#73 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#74 [02:40] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.312 seconds.
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#76 [02:41] <aetherian> !ping
#77 [02:41] <aetherian> D:
#78 [02:41] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.795 seconds.
#79 [02:41] <aetherian> finally
#80 [02:41] <aetherian> I lagged a bit there
#81 [02:43] <Hexi_Hamaski> !ping
#82 [02:43] <GreyBot> Hexi_Hamaski Your Ping time was 0.577 seconds.
#83 [02:44] <Hexi_Hamaski> bout time
#84 [02:45] <aetherian> !ping
#85 [02:45] <GreyBot> aetherian Your Ping time was 0.64 seconds.
#86 [02:45] * aetherian is streaming, downloading, browsing, ircing, etc
#86 [02:45] <AG_Scott> !ping
#87 [02:45] <GreyBot> AG_Scott Your Ping time was 0.655 seconds.
#88 [02:45] <GreyBot> AG_Scott Your Ping time was 0.795 seconds.
#89 [02:45] <AG_Scott> lolol
#90 [02:45] <aetherian> you broke it
#91 [02:45] <AG_Scott> no it didnt
#92 [02:45] <aetherian> D:
#93 [02:45] <AG_Scott> my client replied and my znc replied
#94 [02:46] <aetherian> exactly
#95 [02:46] <AG_Scott> its lulzy :D
#96 [02:46] <aetherian> so lulzy I could follow you around in public all day snickering and pointing :)
#97 [02:47] <AG_Scott> doit
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#99 [02:47] <aetherian> double underscore all the way across the two spaces it takes up :o
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#104 [02:59] <will> hello
#105 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#106 [02:59] <will> any java gurus about?
#107 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> How so?
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#109 [03:00] <will> getting some java errors when trying to run two seperate .jar files, one being minecraft
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#111 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the errors?
#112 [03:00] <will> havent used that site yet, but sure
#113 [03:00] <will> gimme a minute
#114 [03:02] <will> http://pastebin.com/2HXQDyHp
#115 [03:02] <will> im running ubuntu, if that changes much
#116 [03:02] <xales> will: that's minecraft.jar ? O_o
#117 [03:03] <will> yea
#118 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> That's... not normal.
#119 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> What's the other .jar file? Something you're writing?
#120 [03:03] <xales> How are you running it?
#121 [03:03] <will> with java 6 web start i think
#122 [03:04] <will> i also tried using runtime
#123 [03:04] <xales> that's why..you aren't running it correctly
#124 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> Got a JNLP startup file?
#125 [03:04] <xales> you should run minecraft.jar using `java -jar minecraft.jar` in a Terminal window (not sure about the other thing, but that's how you should launch Minecraft)
#126 [03:04] <will> not sure
#127 [03:05] <will> kk
#128 [03:05] <will> ill try it
#129 [03:05] <xales> (also, make sure that you are 'cd'-ed into the correct folder, where minecraft.jar is)
#130 [03:05] <xales> anyway, time for me to to go bed
#131 [03:05] <will> kk
#132 [03:05] <xales> good luck
#133 [03:05] <aetherian> xales: night
#134 [03:05] <aetherian> oh man, forgot to install some light themes
#135 [03:06] <will> i have another paste
#136 [03:07] <will> nvm it launched
#137 [03:07] <will> :D
#138 [03:07] <VoxelHead> =D
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#140 [03:10] <will> anyone know what java bash command i should use to run a .js file? or is that not an executable file?
#141 [03:11] <cosmo> I need someone to take a look at my permissions .ylm would I ask in here or the permissions channel, or is there another channel I should use?
#142 [03:11] <_303> $ sudo apt-get install rhino
#143 [03:12] <will> what is rhino?
#144 [03:12] <_303> javascript interpreter
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#146 [03:12] <_303> doubt you want to execute a js though
#147 [03:12] <NotiCon> why would you want to execute a js file?
#148 [03:13] <will> kk
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#150 [03:15] <will> im trying to cram alot of knowledge in at once, learning unix java html blah blah
#151 [03:16] <will> thanks for the help
#152 [03:17] <NotiCon> so you want to execute a js file in order to learn more? that does seem kinda odd, you might want to edit the js file instead in order to see how its coded instead
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#160 [03:32] <aetherian> hello acky
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#166 [03:45] <aetherian> night guys
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#172 [04:19] <Espeon> I like how aetherian timeouts instead of just quitting
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#186 [05:41] <UltimateBudgie> Hey
#187 [05:43] <lemon-rev> hey
#188 [05:43] <UltimateBudgie> Umm, everytime I try and play Beta
#189 [05:43] <UltimateBudgie> My game stops at 'Done loading'
#190 [05:43] <UltimateBudgie> ANy help?
#191 [05:43] <lemon-rev> hm, you mean after the bar on the screen stops ?
#192 [05:44] <UltimateBudgie> The bar stops
#193 [05:44] <UltimateBudgie> With a tiny fraction left
#194 [05:44] <lemon-rev> and what happens to the program does it go black ? close ? what ?
#195 [05:44] <UltimateBudgie> Just stays there
#196 [05:44] <lemon-rev> hm
#197 [05:45] <_303> might be out of memory or opengl halt
#198 [05:45] <lemon-rev> ok, login to minecraft.net and see if you can run minecraft though the browser ?
#199 [05:45] <lemon-rev> give sec 303 but thanks :P
#200 [05:45] <UltimateBudgie> I've tried thorugh the browser
#201 [05:45] <UltimateBudgie> Same result
#202 [05:45] <lemon-rev> ok, can you reinstall java ?
#203 [05:45] <UltimateBudgie> Ok :)
#204 [05:46] <UltimateBudgie> I'll have to do it soon
#205 [05:46] <UltimateBudgie> Brb
#206 [05:46] <lemon-rev> what you mean you doing something else on your pc ?
#207 [05:46] <UltimateBudgie> No
#208 [05:46] <UltimateBudgie> Dinner :P
#209 [05:46] <lemon-rev> lol
#210 [05:47] <lemon-rev> kk
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#213 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Oh come on, that's the simpliest error ever.. all you need to do is delete the .minecraft/bin/ folder and relaunch
#214 [05:56] <lemon-rev> lol, now now
#215 [05:56] <lemon-rev> yes but still running though basic things well you get that :P
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#219 [06:09] <Camer0n123> hello
#220 [06:09] <Camer0n123> I'm thiking of getting minecraft but i'm a bit confused
#221 [06:09] <NotiCon> lo
#222 [06:10] <NotiCon> how so
#223 [06:10] <Camer0n123> well it says I get 25% off if I buy it now, I don't really care
#224 [06:10] <Camer0n123> but when do I get to start playing it!
#225 [06:10] <NotiCon> well you could have bought it during alpha and gotten it 50% off
#226 [06:10] <NotiCon> when you buy it?
#227 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> When you do buy it, the payment can go through immediately, or it could take a few hours for it to process.
#228 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> It's not uncommon
#229 [06:11] <Camer0n123> oh so I get the game it's just not the full game?
#230 [06:11] <Camer0n123> or the finished game?
#231 [06:11] <NotiCon> its the beta version of the game
#232 [06:11] <NotiCon> but you do keep getting the updates for free
#233 [06:11] <Camer0n123> the updates for the beta game or the full game?
#234 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> When you buy it, you get the game as is, with the promise of free updates, free bug fixes, as well as the final release when it's out
#235 [06:11] <Camer0n123> okay cool!
#236 [06:12] <Camer0n123> so why are they giving €5 off?
#237 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> Early adopters
#238 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> It was half off during alpha
#239 [06:12] <NotiCon> easier way to get ppl to test it aswell
#240 [06:13] <Camer0n123> so there's no limits they're jsut being nice? There's no point waiting for the final release?
#241 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> Right
#242 [06:13] <NotiCon> you never know when final is
#243 [06:13] <NotiCon> final could be in 2 years
#244 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> The game as-is, is not complete. You need to understand that going in. The game is constantly being updated. It's also feature-incomplete
#245 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> They announced the final.. 11/11/11
#246 [06:13] <UltimateBudgie> Back
#247 [06:13] <UltimateBudgie> Should I actually do this: <GreyVulpine> Oh come on, that's the simpliest error ever.. all you need to do is delete the .minecraft/bin/ folder and relaunch
#248 [06:13] <NotiCon> oh they did?
#249 [06:13] <UltimateBudgie> ?
#250 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes UltimateBudgie
#251 [06:14] * GreyVulpine nods at NotiCon
#251 [06:14] <NotiCon> very well
#252 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#253 [06:14] <NotiCon> didnt notice
#254 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> Now, with Notch-time, that's likely to be moved
#255 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> But it's a start.
#256 [06:15] <NotiCon> true
#257 [06:15] <NotiCon> but it could still be in 2 years
#258 [06:15] <UltimateBudgie> I re-launched
#259 [06:15] <UltimateBudgie> It downloaded all the packages, then black-screened
#260 [06:15] <UltimateBudgie> And stopped
#261 [06:15] <UltimateBudgie> :C
#262 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> UltimateBudgie - It black-screened? Are you running/installing any mods?
#263 [06:15] <UltimateBudgie> I'm running some
#264 [06:16] <NotiCon> try disabling those
#265 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you try going into the .minecraft folder, deleting everything but the saves folder
#266 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> and relaunch it.. don't install any mods
#267 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> That'll wipe all your texture packs and any mods you installed
#268 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> It'll also download fresh, original files to your computer
#269 [06:17] <UltimateBudgie> Done
#270 [06:17] <UltimateBudgie> And it just black-screens again
#271 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Huh. Has it worked before?
#272 [06:18] <UltimateBudgie> D:
#273 [06:18] <UltimateBudgie> Yes
#274 [06:18] <UltimateBudgie> Just earlier
#275 [06:18] <lemon-rev> UltimateBudgie so when was it working and what did you do to kill it ?
#276 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> What's changed?
#277 [06:18] <NotiCon> reboot
#278 [06:19] <UltimateBudgie> Nothing's changed :/
#279 [06:19] <UltimateBudgie> I'll reboot
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#281 [06:25] <UltimateBudgie> Thankyou so much guys :)
#282 [06:25] <lemon-rev> it work s?
#283 [06:26] <UltimateBudgie> Yup
#284 [06:26] <lemon-rev> good work :)
#285 [06:26] <UltimateBudgie> The restart did it
#286 [06:26] <UltimateBudgie> But I think everything helped :)
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#289 [07:12] <amsk> can someone provide me with a 256x256x64 flatgrass map for mc classic
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#292 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> The one I usually give out to people:
#293 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1340
#294 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> it's 512x512
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#296 [07:15] <amsk> GreyVulpine, and it'll work with mc classic? thanks.
#297 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#299 [07:16] <Ckm2> so, si tehre a date on 1.5?
#300 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#301 [07:28] <amsk> hmm
#302 [07:28] <amsk> so i've been running a minecraft server just fine the last few days
#303 [07:28] <amsk> now i can't connect, at all
#304 [07:28] <amsk> port is still forwarded :/ makes no sense
#305 [07:29] <lemon-rev> have you rebooted recently
#306 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> What are you connecting with?
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#308 [07:32] <Ulygold> hi
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#310 [07:32] <Ulygold> I have a slight problem
#311 [07:33] <lemon-rev> ?
#312 [07:33] <Ulygold> Craftbukkit isn't working for me
#313 [07:33] <Ulygold> I followed the steps
#314 [07:33] <Ulygold> set the path's
#315 [07:33] <_303> again wrong channel
#316 [07:33] <Ulygold> ouch
#317 [07:34] <Ulygold> which one is usefull for asking craftbukkit questions?
#318 [07:34] <_303> #craftbukkit ?
#319 [07:34] <Ulygold> thanks :3
#320 [07:34] <Ulygold> well... that one doesn't rlly exist
#321 [07:34] <Ulygold> i think
#322 [07:34] <amsk> GreyVulpine the site
#323 [07:34] <amsk> doesn't matter which link i use
#324 [07:34] <amsk> can't connect :/
#325 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> You may want #bukkit Ulygold
#326 [07:34] <amsk> i can if i use server port and make it the LAN ip but that's it
#327 [07:34] <amsk> but the port is still forwarded
#328 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> amsk - Make sure the port forwarding is correct?
#329 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps your local IP has changed, and you just need to update your router?
#330 [07:35] <amsk> GreyVulpine i go to canyouseeme.org, port is open
#331 [07:35] <amsk> local machine has a fixed IP and i've double checked it
#332 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> Then, firewall/security software?
#333 [07:36] <amsk> none to speak of
#334 [07:36] <amsk> apart from windows firewall and nothing's changed there
#335 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> IP?
#336 [07:36] <amsk> what do you mean IP
#337 [07:36] <amsk> external IP?
#338 [07:37] * GreyVulpine nods
#338 [07:37] <amsk> yeah that's probably changed but doesn't work when i connect to my no-ip address either
#339 [07:37] <amsk> and that always used to work
#340 [07:37] <amsk> it sees the server, just freezes on 'connecting'
#341 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> Server console return anything?
#342 [07:38] <amsk> nope
#343 [07:38] <amsk> it says "now accepting input on 2345"
#344 [07:38] <amsk> but not showing any connection attempts
#345 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> You changed your server's port?
#346 [07:38] <amsk> from default, yes. because apparently there are issues with win 7 and the default port or some crap.
#347 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> 2345 isn't the default MC port..
#348 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> And there's no issues with win7 that I've seen
#349 [07:39] <amsk> i just said from default, yes.
#350 [07:39] <amsk> and as i said it's been running fine for the last few daays
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#352 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> Alright. What exactly are you connecting with, that you can't connect to your server?
#353 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> Are you using your external or no-ip address?
#354 [07:39] <amsk> ... minecraft.net
#355 [07:39] <amsk> multiplayer
#356 [07:39] <amsk> oh
#357 [07:39] <amsk> either, both
#358 [07:39] <amsk> no luck
#359 [07:40] <amsk> with and without &override=true
#360 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> Have you made sure those are your...
#361 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. classic?
#362 [07:40] <amsk> yes.
#363 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> Alright then.
#364 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the URL from minecraft.net/servers.jsp page for your server?
#365 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Or the more direct ip link via http?
#366 [07:41] <amsk> tried both
#367 [07:42] <amsk> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=853a8acc3ff9801c6a00e66a26bc1980
#368 [07:42] <amsk> hmm
#369 [07:42] <amsk> although i do have a new map file
#370 [07:42] <amsk> i wonder if that's changed anything
#371 [07:43] <amsk> it's that 512 one you linked me to
#372 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> You may want to recheck the servers listing via server.jsp, make sure your URL hasn't changed
#373 [07:43] <amsk> yeah that's where i'm doing it from
#374 [07:45] <amsk> just doesn't make sense
#375 [07:47] <amsk> and i can't get to it by local IP because i have verify names set to true
#376 [07:47] <amsk> but at least it shows up in server console that i'm attempting to connect
#377 [07:47] <amsk> wait
#378 [07:47] <amsk> it just said that you logged in
#379 [07:50] <amsk> hmm, but no luck logging in from either my laptop or my desktop
#380 [07:50] <amsk> what the hell.
#381 [07:50] <amsk> maybe i need to reboot my pc/my router
#382 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> Possible.
#383 [07:51] <amsk> can't think of what else it'd be
#384 [07:51] <amsk> so random
#385 [07:51] <amsk> usually the &override=true link works
#386 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Your network setup hasn't changed, right?
#387 [07:51] <amsk> not that i'm aware of
#388 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes this issue arises because of some firewall issue, or a weirdly NAT-ed router setup..
#389 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Where the server and client cohabitate the same computer, and the client can't resolve the URL because of the local IP due to some funky setup
#390 [07:54] <amsk> yeah
#391 [07:54] <amsk> and the &override=true usually handles it fine
#392 [07:54] <amsk> dunno what's going on atm
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#394 [07:55] <mib_qlm4g0> i always get this stupid "Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes." on minecraft.net. client works though! please help me
#395 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> Usually means the username's being used to login with invalid credentials too frequently.. and the site's locked the account for a short period.
#396 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Prevents the frequently used brute force attacks that people used to hijack minecraft accounts
#397 [07:57] <mib_qlm4g0> true that. but i waited 12 hours in between. and then would it still let me log into the game? since that does work! i could also reset my password with no problem
#398 [07:58] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, we haven't heard anything official with that, you may want to send off an email to support@mojang.com
#399 [08:02] <mib_qlm4g0> alright, if nothing changes i will. thank you :)
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#416 [09:13] <Ss> anyone up for some server admin questions
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#419 [09:36] <nEUROSIS> I thought minecraft was multiplayer?!?
#420 [09:37] <oldtopmanserver> nEUROSI: It is
#421 [09:38] <oldtopmanserver> nEUROSIS:^^
#422 [09:38] <peru> it is both
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#424 [09:47] <Floris> When you load it, you get singleplayer / multiplayer
#425 [09:47] <Floris> those are buttons, you can choose the one appropriate for you.
#426 [09:48] <[z]> !paid Astralpsycho
#427 [09:49] <Floris> ^epic bot
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#431 [10:17] <hellgast> hello, got a question, how can i set my spawmpoint?
#432 [10:17] <NotiCon> using a tool
#433 [10:18] <Floris> Or.
#434 [10:18] <Floris> Build a bed, and sleep it it once at night.
#435 [10:18] <Floris> Next time you die, you spawn in the bed you last slept in.
#436 [10:18] <hellgast> my server :p
#437 [10:18] <hellgast> in my server*
#438 [10:18] <NotiCon> Floris: is it so that your spawn point is the last bed you slept in if that bed havent been touched?
#439 [10:18] <hellgast> i got a bukkit sv, dk if there is a plugin for it or something...
#440 [10:19] <hellgast> i didn't slep in my server yet
#441 [10:19] <Floris> NotiCon ; I haven't read through the wiki page, just glanced over it, tried it, it worked ..
#442 [10:19] <nEUROSIS> ok i see it now, how the modes work for SP/MP I tried MP !!FUN!
#443 [10:19] <Floris> I only play multiplayer
#444 [10:20] <Floris> I make something, look around .. can't enjoy it with my friends. I cry.
#445 [10:20] <nEUROSIS> I kno me too
#446 [10:20] <Floris> I just use local saves to try things out.
#447 [10:20] <nEUROSIS> is there a main or most popular server?
#448 [10:20] <hellgast> floris, you know how to set a spawmpointt in a multiplayer sv?
#449 [10:20] <Floris> so i know it doesn't break existing buildings etc
#450 [10:20] <Floris> "sv" is unknown to me.
#451 [10:20] <nEUROSIS> is the local game different? the server I was on had no monsters
#452 [10:20] <hellgast> nEUOSIS, i just made a new one
#453 [10:20] <hellgast> you can join
#454 [10:20] <Floris> My experience is just with vanilla minecraft client/server.
#455 [10:20] <nEUROSIS> ok
#456 [10:20] <nEUROSIS> :)
#457 [10:21] <nEUROSIS> im new so perfect
#458 [10:21] <hellgast> but its with hamachi :p
#459 [10:21] <Floris> You can edit server.prperties to set animals=true, monsters=false
#460 [10:21] <Floris> change false to true and you get monsters.
#461 [10:21] <Floris> You need to 'run' that server of course.
#462 [10:21] <nEUROSIS> k, so as long as I have the most up to date server and default settings it will be same as a SP game?
#463 [10:21] <Floris> What I wish it had by default was the ability to have 'time' have a speed. So it's not 10 but sya 30 minutes, and night is not 5 but 10 minutes.
#464 [10:21] <nEUROSIS> why hamachi?
#465 [10:22] <hellgast> yes
#466 [10:22] <nEUROSIS> jes curious
#467 [10:22] <hellgast> becaus my rooter is stuppid and can't find the portforward thuing >.>
#468 [10:22] <hellgast> thing*
#469 [10:22] <nEUROSIS> hehe
#470 [10:22] <NotiCon> could be it doesnt have one
#471 [10:22] <nEUROSIS> have u tried putting urself on DMZ?
#472 [10:22] <nEUROSIS> thas what I do
#473 [10:22] <hellgast> noticon, what di you mean?
#474 [10:22] <hellgast> do*
#475 [10:22] <hellgast> whats DMZ?
#476 [10:23] <NotiCon> some routers is just simple so they dont have those fancy options for disabling or enabling stuff
#477 [10:23] <nEUROSIS> DMZ = all incoming ports (that arent setup specifically in port forward rules) goto the machine u pick (like urs prolly 192.168.1.1)
#478 [10:23] <hellgast> :p
#479 [10:23] <nEUROSIS> thats tru too what noticon said
#480 [10:23] <hellgast> its like 1month old rooter
#481 [10:23] <hellgast> it sucks badly lol
#482 [10:24] <nEUROSIS> err i mean .2
#483 [10:24] <nEUROSIS> anyhow .. I have tunngle now i know why i saw so many clients in tunngle for minecraft
#484 [10:25] <nEUROSIS> lemme install hamachi :P
#485 [10:26] <hellgast> :D
#486 [10:28] <nEUROSIS> so i guess since there are no central servers there will be no monthly fees right?
#487 [10:28] <hellgast> nope, once you bought minecraft, always free
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#489 [10:28] <nEUROSIS> yay
#490 [10:28] <adads> w00t new minecraft video http://aee96921.linkbucks.com
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#492 [10:28] <hellgast> or, until you got scammed :p
#493 [10:29] <nEUROSIS> I dont know why i bought minecraft tonite, I played for 10 seconds and I was hooked
#494 [10:30] <nEUROSIS> wutz ur network id?
#495 [10:30] <hellgast> uhm
#496 [10:30] <nEUROSIS> for hamachi
#497 [10:30] <hellgast> MyneServer
#498 [10:30] <hellgast> 12345
#499 [10:31] <nEUROSIS> Teblo?
#500 [10:31] <hellgast> yes
#501 [10:31] <hellgast> me
#502 [10:31] <hellgast> :p
#503 [10:31] <hellgast> but sec
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#505 [10:31] <hellgast> i restart sv
#506 [10:31] <hellgast> new plugin
#507 [10:31] <nEUROSIS> ok
#508 [10:32] <hellgast> join
#509 [10:32] <hellgast> my ip
#510 [10:32] <hellgast> without port
#511 [10:32] <nEUROSIS> its tryin
#512 [10:32] <nEUROSIS> timed out
#513 [10:33] <hellgast> 5.168.26.23
#514 [10:33] <kermie> hello
#515 [10:33] <hellgast> ?
#516 [10:33] <nEUROSIS> yup
#517 [10:33] <nEUROSIS> lemme restart minecraft
#518 [10:33] <nEUROSIS> i had it open first
#519 [10:34] <kermie> I'm planning a bigger redstone wire project and have two questions
#520 [10:34] <nEUROSIS> ya still won lemme in
#521 [10:35] <hellgast> sec
#522 [10:35] <kermie> is there a possibility to start on a plain map somewhere, so that you dont have to mine it at first?
#523 [10:36] <hellgast> try again
#524 [10:36] <hellgast> changed an option
#525 [10:36] <kermie> anyone?
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#527 [10:38] <nEUROSIS> naw wont lemme in
#528 [10:38] <hellgast> >.>
#529 [10:38] <hellgast> my frend is going to try to connect
#530 [10:38] <hellgast> never connect before lol
#531 [10:38] <hellgast> or
#532 [10:39] <hellgast> ry to do the port after ot
#533 [10:39] <hellgast> it*
#534 [10:39] <nEUROSIS> whats the port
#535 [10:39] <nEUROSIS> ?
#536 [10:39] <hellgast> 5.168.26.23:25565
#537 [10:40] <nEUROSIS> failed too
#538 [10:40] <hellgast> aw
#539 [10:40] <hellgast> i fail ...
#540 [10:40] <nEUROSIS> what model make is ur router, maybe I can talk u thru the portforward or dmz.. im pretty good with routers :) used to be a NOC
#541 [10:40] <nEUROSIS> that way u wont have to use hamachi and more ppl will get on
#542 [10:41] <hellgast> ....
#543 [10:41] <nEUROSIS> I could run a server, I have a badass connexion and many machines
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#545 [10:41] <hellgast> do it ? :D
#546 [10:42] <hellgast> and btw, come in private chat
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#548 [10:45] <kermie> to give it a second try: is it possible to start on a plain map for bigger projects? so that you don't need to mine it?
#549 [10:45] <NotiCon> a map tool
#550 [10:46] <kermie> thanks. but I'm quite new to "creative" minecrafting. so what map tool?
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#554 [10:51] <xolotl> kermie: MCEdit is the canonical world editor
#555 [10:52] <esper_feybgd> it wont let me Register on the main website to buy the game ?
#556 [10:52] <kermie> thanks a lot.
#557 [10:52] <NotiCon> esper_feybgd: its only on the main website
#558 [10:53] <esper_feybgd> i know but when i try to Register it just says Captcha verification failed
#559 [10:53] <esper_feybgd> but i dont see any captcha
#560 [10:53] <esper_feybgd> to enter
#561 [10:53] <kermie> that is exactly what I was looking for. and what would you recommend for inventory editing?
#562 [10:55] <xolotl> kermie: INVedit is what's usually used for inventory editing in singleplayer
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#564 [10:55] <xolotl> kermie: If you're on multiplayer then you can just use /give commands
#565 [10:57] <kermie> is there a possibility to "fixiate" inventory? so that you don't have to type it in again and again.
#566 [10:58] <xolotl> kermie: Not without a mod of some sort
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#568 [11:00] <kermie> ok. thanks a lot xolotl. the ones like you make the minecraft community as great as it is.
#569 [11:01] <xolotl> Aw shucks.
#570 [11:01] <xolotl> :)
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#573 [11:08] <croswill> Heyy
#574 [11:08] <croswill> Getting a note when joining a server: Connection time out: connection. Got any solutions for this ?
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#577 [11:20] <GuadalajaraPL> Hey
#578 [11:20] <GuadalajaraPL> Can somebody help me?
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#580 [11:33] <Floris> the answer is yes
#581 [11:33] <Floris> the outcome is unsatisfying to you.
#582 [11:33] <Floris> the problem is patience.
#583 [11:33] <Floris> and the situation to be had is: lulz
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#605 [12:31] <VoxelHead> morning
#606 [12:31] <VoxelHead> Today's episode: The Heat Thickens
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#608 [12:31] <aetherian> morning, vox
#609 [12:32] <VoxelHead> Bye BarryCarlyon.
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#615 [12:41] <BlackStorm> hey
#616 [12:41] <BlackStorm> anyone there?
#617 [12:41] <AkiTensai> o/
#618 [12:42] <BlackStorm> :)
#619 [12:42] <BlackStorm> have a problem
#620 [12:42] <AkiTensai> Ask away
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#622 [12:43] <BlackStorm> I crashed my minecraft so heavy that it dont start and so i would ask if anybody (would/ could ) give me his .minecraft folder with some mods or is this not acceptable
#623 [12:44] <_303> I thought the new launcher lets you force redownload your jar
#624 [12:44] <AkiTensai> The acceptability of that is unknown to me.
#625 [12:45] <BlackStorm> jeah but i did it and ... *schwups * all the same
#626 [12:45] <AkiTensai> Define crashed. Does the login not load? Do you get past that but not to menu? Can't get in game? Game freezes?
#627 [12:46] <BlackStorm> Ok it crashed sometimes befor the "Mojang" slogan appears and sometimes it crsched ingame when i create a world or enter one
#628 [12:46] <BlackStorm> *crashed
#629 [12:46] <_303> post any error messages you get to pastebin.com
#630 [12:47] <AkiTensai> BlackStorm: Do you have more one monitor?
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#632 [12:49] <AkiTensai> The game will crash pre-slogan if my second monitor is turned on. If I turn it off, start up the game, then enable my second monitor, the game is fine. (Though if the game is displayed on the second monitor, there is only sound, no video, but I don't care about that)
#633 [12:49] <BlackStorm> i found some failures maybe i can fix it . Thanks for your help i forget the modloader totally^^
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#639 [13:05] <Compodulator|GFS> anyone on?
#640 [13:05] <aetherian> yes
#641 [13:05] <aetherian> I am
#642 [13:05] <Compodulator|GFS> i found an odd video o_O
#643 [13:06] <Compodulator|GFS> which claims to be a recording of MC 1.5 O_o
#644 [13:06] <aetherian> good for you.
#645 [13:06] <Compodulator|GFS> no, i mean, is it bs?
#646 [13:06] <aetherian> links are much appreciated
#647 [13:07] <Compodulator|GFS> i'm trying to get it >_<
#648 [13:07] <_303> this? http://youtube.com/watch?v=qy882ILYJMM
#649 [13:08] <Compodulator|GFS> yes, exactly
#650 [13:08] <Morrolan> Look at who published it...
#651 [13:08] <Compodulator|GFS> TeamMojang?
#652 [13:09] <Compodulator|GFS> i could also make a youtube account called TeamMojang
#653 [13:09] <Morrolan> Yep. Now guess who that could be...
#654 [13:09] <Morrolan> I don't think Mojang would allow you to. ;)
#655 [13:09] <Compodulator|GFS> wait.....
#656 [13:09] <Compodulator|GFS> GAH >_<
#657 [13:09] <aetherian> ...
#658 [13:09] * g BRB, reconnectiong bouncer
#658 [13:09] <Morrolan> Anyway, it's Mojang, I assure you. :D
#659 [13:09] <Compodulator|GFS> i saw it embedded in a site
#660 [13:09] <Compodulator|GFS> a modding site
#661 [13:09] <Morrolan> Ah, ok. ^^
#662 [13:09] <Compodulator|GFS> i was quite confused
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#664 [13:11] <aetherian> my router fails it .-.
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#671 [13:20] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] 1/11/11 (Anonymous) - Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:06:55 +0200
#672 [13:20] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#673 [13:20] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.4_01 (Anonymous) - Tue, 05 Apr 2011 04:28:11 -0400
#674 [13:21] <g> lolwut
#675 [13:21] <g> root@irc.pearsoncoles.com
#676 [13:21] <AG_Scott> They should gline root :/
#677 [13:21] <g> why?
#678 [13:22] <AG_Scott> It's not good to IRC as root.
#679 [13:22] <g> it's a bot
#680 [13:22] <g> and it has no access to anything really
#681 [13:22] <AG_Scott> I'm aware.
#682 [13:22] <NotiCon> silly
#683 [13:22] <AG_Scott> It's running as root though :(
#684 [13:22] <g> so.. why does it matter?
#685 [13:22] <NotiCon> you sure its running as root?
#686 [13:22] <AG_Scott> Yes.
#687 [13:22] <g> if it could modify anything, I'd run it as something else
#688 [13:22] <g> Yeah, it's running as root
#689 [13:22] <AG_Scott> It's username is root and identd check out.
#690 [13:22] <g> I just can't be bothered to "su" before I run it
#691 [13:23] <AG_Scott> checked out*
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#696 [13:30] <g> ~stfu
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#698 [13:36] <bread> vox, take a poop.
#699 [13:36] <bread> :>
#700 [13:37] <VoxelHead> ;)
#701 [13:37] <bread> :<
#702 [13:39] <aetherian> vox, cloak
#703 [13:39] * VoxelHead shimmers and disappears from view...
#703 [13:40] <NotiCon> if only it left aswell
#704 [13:40] <aetherian> NotiCon: >:
#705 [13:40] <NotiCon> well its still visible
#706 [13:40] <bread> vox, eat NotiCon
#707 [13:40] <dopeghoti> holy crap
#708 [13:40] * VoxelHead eats NotiCon
#708 [13:40] <bread> :D
#709 [13:40] <VoxelHead> :o)
#710 [13:40] <bread> :>
#711 [13:40] <dopeghoti> I am not usually one to drop links in random unrelated places, but..
#712 [13:40] <NotiCon> too bad VoxelHead will die from food poison now
#713 [13:41] <g> ~speak
#714 [13:41] <dopeghoti> Humble Bundle 3 is out! http://humblebundle.com
#715 [13:41] <g> ~stfu
#716 [13:41] <bread> blargh
#717 [13:41] <g> aww
#718 [13:41] <g> :P
#719 [13:41] <g> yeah
#720 [13:41] <g> I bought it already
#721 [13:41] <bread> I wonder how long it's gonna go on for?
#722 [13:41] <g> for an undisclosed amount
#723 [13:41] <g> :P
#724 [13:41] <bread> I'm completely broke right now :<
#725 [13:41] <dopeghoti> !2 wk
#726 [13:41] <dopeghoti> ~2 wk rather
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#728 [13:42] <bread> alright! That gives me enough time to come up with _some_ cash
#729 [13:42] <dopeghoti> same here
#730 [13:43] <dopeghoti> I could buy it now for a penny and again for $actual_donation, but I'd like to keep the average up for Linux purchasers
#731 [13:43] <bread> ha, same
#732 [13:43] <dopeghoti> or.. I could buy for a penny as a Windows user.. >:]
#733 [13:43] <bread> bwahaha
#734 [13:43] <VoxelHead> Shouldn't you be frying something?
#735 [13:43] <bread> I'd feel bad giving them so little though lol
#736 [13:43] <bread> no vox, I do not fry.
#737 [13:44] <dopeghoti> With Bundle 2, I made up for it buy giving two real donations, one in my housemate's name (:
#738 [13:44] <bread> :D
#739 [13:44] <VoxelHead> :)
#740 [13:45] <Wug> VOX!! :3
#741 [13:45] <Wug> you're speaking
#742 [13:45] <VoxelHead> Hi yo wug.
#743 [13:45] * Wug pokes voxelhead
#743 [13:45] <VoxelHead> ow! that was my least relavant eyelash :[
#744 [13:46] <bread> I lol'd
#745 [13:46] <Wug> vox, decloak
#746 [13:46] * VoxelHead shifts back into view
#746 [13:46] <Wug> anyway, I'm leaving...
#747 [13:46] <Wug> bye vox :3
#748 [13:46] <dopeghoti> ciao, Wug
#749 [13:46] <bread> \o
#750 [13:47] <Wug> lol bye actual people
#751 [13:47] <bread> dopeghoti, you are the rule of Vox, are you not?
#752 [13:47] <bread> ruler* >:|
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#754 [13:48] <dopeghoti> I try
#755 [13:48] <dopeghoti> whats amiss?
#756 [13:49] <bread> oh I was just wondering what sort of super awesome modules make him so great lol
#757 [13:50] <dopeghoti> 1 part eggdrop, 1 part custom FAQ script, 3 parts "AI" script, 4 parts rum, 3 parts turning AI into GS
#758 [13:50] <bread> Well I've got an eggdrop already setup, with Megahal :p
#759 [13:50] <dopeghoti> MegaHAL is.. too common
#760 [13:51] <dopeghoti> as is ALICE
#761 [13:51] <bread> lol. It's rather silly too.
#762 [13:51] * dopeghoti toyed with setting up ELIZA for the nostalgia, but it's too chatty
#762 [13:51] * dopeghoti pats Vox on the head
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#763 [13:51] <bread> heh we had a Eliza for an omegle bot. It was rather dumb.
#764 [13:51] <VoxelHead> mmm
#765 [13:52] <dopeghoti> I wonder how many people regognized it for what it was (as Eliza specifically)
#766 [13:52] <bread> I don't think many people on Omegle have any knowledge of the sort. :P
#767 [13:52] <dopeghoti> "So why do you want to talk about asl?"
#768 [13:52] <bread> haha
#769 [13:52] <VoxelHead> Ah! ah! THE MEAT!! THE HORRIBLE MEAT#@$~!@$~$#%percent^!.
#770 [13:52] <bread> :O
#771 [13:52] <VoxelHead> O_O.
#772 [13:52] <dopeghoti> *snrk*
#773 [13:53] <bread> I love you, VoxelHead. :>
#774 [13:53] * VoxelHead blushes
#774 [13:53] <bread> :D
#775 [13:53] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#776 [13:53] <dopeghoti> Awww
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#779 [13:53] <dopeghoti> Adjectives I didn't think would apply to Vx, partial list: 'cute'
#780 [13:54] <bread> ha
#781 [13:54] <bread> 8D
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#783 [13:56] <croxio5> Conference Mode?
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#785 [14:02] <Istas> Kealper, I mentioned I was having a crash issue, yesterday. I'm sorry, I didn't check the posted bugs on minecraft's help site first. Apparently it's an error with the smooth lighting. I turned that off and am having no problems since.
#786 [14:03] <bread> I totally read 'crotch' issue...
#787 [14:08] <Istas> *chuckles*
#788 [14:09] <aetherian> ._.
#789 [14:09] <bread> :D
#790 [14:09] <VoxelHead> =)
#791 [14:11] <aetherian> bread: we don't provide support for that.
#792 [14:11] <bread> Damnit.
#793 [14:11] <bread> /join #crotchhelp
#794 [14:12] <aetherian> /say /nowai
#795 [14:12] <bread> 8D
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#797 [14:14] <Ckm2> hey so i found out my game only crashes during single player
#798 [14:14] <Ckm2> i played multiplayer for hours yesterday and not one crash
#799 [14:15] <bread> Is it one particular save, or all of them?
#800 [14:16] <Istas> Ckm2: I found out that my problem I was having, was due to the smooth lighting, Ckm2.
#801 [14:16] <Istas> There's a bug with it. I turned it off, and I haven't crashed since.
#802 [14:16] <Ckm2> my smooth lighting was never on
#803 [14:16] <Ckm2> i lik the old stylwe
#804 [14:17] <Istas> Ahh. Well then, don't know, heh
#805 [14:19] <NotiCon> Ckm2: you have two saves or just one?
#806 [14:19] <Ckm2> 2
#807 [14:19] <bread> Does it happen with both?
#808 [14:19] <NotiCon> is it on both saves?
#809 [14:19] <Ckm2> i havnt plaed the older save but it happened a little bit with the old one
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#814 [14:39] <aetherian> o.o
#815 [14:39] <aetherian> nine cows just spawned on a little hill
#816 [14:39] <bread> moo!
#817 [14:39] <VoxelHead> -_-
#818 [14:39] <bread> :D
#819 [14:39] <VoxelHead> :)
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#823 [15:05] <SlashLife> aetherian: If you're lucky that's half a leather armor.
#824 [15:05] <dopeghoti> heh
#825 [15:05] <VoxelHead> ;)
#826 [15:05] <bread> :D
#827 [15:05] <aetherian> SlashLife: I got like 6 whole leathers out of it .____.
#828 [15:05] <SlashLife> I know that feeling. ;<
#829 [15:06] <SlashLife> Eight creepers (+ 2 exploded) => 46 arrows used, 2 gunpowder gained.
#830 [15:06] <SlashLife> And two big holes to fill.
#831 [15:06] <dopeghoti> 46?!
#832 [15:06] <dopeghoti> you're a terribly shot.
#833 [15:06] <dopeghoti> er, terrible
#834 [15:07] <SlashLife> Uhh ... Five arrows per creeper?
#835 [15:07] <dopeghoti> usually takes me four
#836 [15:07] <SlashLife> O_O
#837 [15:07] <SlashLife> Do they have damage areas or something?
#838 [15:07] <SlashLife> (As in: Headshots doing more damage, etc.)
#839 [15:07] <dopeghoti> I don't know but I usually get 'em in the head because I shoot from above most times
#840 [15:08] <SlashLife> Ok; don't have that option in that area unfortunately.
#841 [15:08] <SlashLife> Got to try that, but I'm pretty sure it constantly takes five shots per creeper. Minimum.
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#843 [15:09] <mandreas> !check 192.168.1.10
#844 [15:09] <bread> lol
#845 [15:09] <mandreas> anyone know why my external IP keeps changing?
#846 [15:09] <SlashLife> "It takes five arrows to kill." ... from Minecraftwiki
#847 [15:09] <dopeghoti> mandreas: DHCP?
#848 [15:09] <SlashLife> If you say you usually fire from above ... do they maybe take fall damage beforehand?
#849 [15:10] <bread> mandreas: your router must be derp. They usually assign IP by MAC address.
#850 [15:10] <dopeghoti> SlashLife: not sure.
#851 [15:10] <dopeghoti> bread: no, they assign via standard DHCP, though you can can set MAC reservations.
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#853 [15:10] * bread r derp
#853 [15:10] <bread> ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ
#854 [15:11] <mandreas> Is there anyway I can stop it from changing?
#855 [15:11] <dopeghoti> with iPods, iPads, phones, playstations, computers, and microwaves all using DHCP, it's not surprising that IP assignments change on most LANs these days (:
#856 [15:11] <bread> what about kerosene powered cheese graters!
#857 [15:11] <dopeghoti> mandreas: go into your router's configurator, and assign your computer's MAC address to a specific IP
#858 [15:11] <dopeghoti> bread: those use IPX
#859 [15:12] <bread> :o
#860 [15:12] <VoxelHead> well slap my ass and call me VoxelHead
#861 [15:12] <SlashLife> mandreas: Most likely your ISP hands out dynamic IP addresses.
#862 [15:13] <SlashLife> You have several options here.
#863 [15:13] <bread> VoxelHead: you are VoxelHead.
#864 [15:13] <bread> oh
#865 [15:13] <SlashLife> a) Contact them and ask whether you can purchase a static IP upgrade.
#866 [15:13] <bread> we're talking external IPs
#867 [15:13] <bread> herpaderp
#868 [15:13] <dopeghoti> d'oh
#869 [15:13] <bread> I was thinking internal IPs
#870 [15:13] <SlashLife> b) Switch to another ISP.
#871 [15:13] <VoxelHead> You've ruined it.
#872 [15:13] <dopeghoti> so was I
#873 [15:13] <bread> Sorry Vox :(
#874 [15:13] <VoxelHead> r That's ok then. I suppose. Don't think this makes me like you again though bread
#875 [15:13] <SlashLife> c) Live with it and get a dynamic DNS entry instead.
#876 [15:13] <bread> :<
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#878 [15:14] <SlashLife> E.g. on dyndns.org you can register one for free.
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#880 [15:14] <gdare1> hello
#881 [15:14] <dopeghoti> bread: give Vx a hug and all will be forgiven I"m sure
#882 [15:14] <dopeghoti> gdare1: howdy
#883 [15:14] * bread hugs VoxelHead
#883 [15:14] <bread> :>
#884 [15:14] <gdare1> i need help
#885 [15:14] <SlashLife> You can then have the DNS entry updated to your current external IP when it changes and everyone can simply connect to your server using for example mandreas.ath.cx:12345
#886 [15:14] <VoxelHead> antif
#887 [15:14] <dopeghoti> ?? ask
#888 [15:14] <VoxelHead> :-)
#889 [15:15] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#890 [15:15] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#891 [15:15] <gdare1> you know on the #minecraft
#892 [15:15] <lukegb> dopeghoti: aaah you're lowercase
#893 [15:15] <lukegb> What is this atrocity?
#894 [15:15] <gdare1> how do i log into my nick name so i can talk
#895 [15:15] <bread> gdare1: #help
#896 [15:15] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go o_O.
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#898 [15:15] <dopeghoti> lukegb: I'm only sort-of here
#899 [15:15] <dopeghoti> between work, drugs, and these damnable hiccoughs, I can't concentrate on anything
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#901 [15:16] <mandreas> dopeghoti: So I should switch my dynamic DNS to custom DNS?
#902 [15:17] <dopeghoti> mandreas: sorry I was answering the wrong question; I thought you were talking about changing _internal_; not _external_ IP addresses.
#903 [15:17] <mandreas> nope xD
#904 [15:18] <mandreas> Im trying to stop my external IP from changing, it's annoying my server's players.
#905 [15:18] <dopeghoti> if you want a static, unchanging _external_ IP address, you can call your ISP (you may have to upgrade to a business account), or you can register for a domain name from dyndns.org or no-ip.com, and keep that domain up-to-date with your IP
#906 [15:18] <dopeghoti> and have your players connect by hostname rather than IP address.
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#908 [15:19] <gdare1> what sort of video card do i need to run minecraft
#909 [15:19] <dopeghoti> A pretty modern one
#910 [15:19] <bread> a non-shitty one, preferably.
#911 [15:19] <bread> Integrated = :(
#912 [15:19] <dopeghoti> anything DX9-capable should be enough.
#913 [15:19] <VoxelHead> Mmm kurimus.
#914 [15:19] <gdare1> i have a ge-force 5000 or sumthing like that
#915 [15:20] <bread> Mine's DX9 capable, yet I get 5FPS in minecraft
#916 [15:20] <aetherian> five whole fps
#917 [15:20] <aetherian> :O
#918 [15:20] <VoxelHead> Good grief.
#919 [15:20] <dopeghoti> bread: reduce the window size to that of a postage stamp, just like those of us with 386s did with Doom back in the day
#920 [15:20] <bread> !test 85.216.128.242
#921 [15:20] <bread> lol
#922 [15:20] <bread> I think I'll try that
#923 [15:20] <dopeghoti> and for the love of pete, turn off smooth lighting
#924 [15:21] <aetherian> I make the window size tiny when I want to multitask and see other things on the screen...
#925 [15:22] <gdare1> is anyone firmiliar with the mod millenaire
#926 [15:22] <bread> well, that did nothing to improve my performance
#927 [15:23] <bread> everything is lowest settings, I made the window about 250px, and still 5fps
#928 [15:23] <bread> lol
#929 [15:23] <aetherian> bread: try dumping some coffee on your laptop, the extra caffeine should wake it up.
#930 [15:23] <bread> brilliant.
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#932 [15:23] <aetherian> oh god
#933 [15:24] <aetherian> I think mib_ names may be better, actually.
#934 [15:24] <bread> lol
#935 [15:24] <bread> inorite
#936 [15:24] <bread> I think I'll register that nick later
#937 [15:24] <bread> :>
#938 [15:24] <VoxelHead> =D
#939 [15:24] <gdare1> does anyone play mods
#940 [15:24] <dopeghoti> gdare1: I prefer S3Ms
#941 [15:24] <aetherian> gdare1: why sure, "mods" is a great game
#942 [15:24] <bread> lol
#943 [15:24] <HelpMe> hey guys! can someone test 85.216.128.242 for me please :( ?
#944 [15:25] <dopeghoti> !cgeck 85.216.128.242
#945 [15:25] <dopeghoti> !check 85.216.128.242
#946 [15:25] <HelpMe> just see if you connect
#947 [15:25] <bread> ah it's check
#948 [15:25] <aetherian> cgeck it too
#949 [15:25] <bread> lol
#950 [15:25] <bread> not test
#951 [15:25] <HelpMe> !check 85.216.128.242
#952 [15:25] <gdare1> ok i'm sorry maybe i was looking for a smart ass comment there what i meen to say is
#953 [15:25] <bread> lol
#954 [15:25] <VoxelHead> so, like, smart ass-comment
#955 [15:25] <bread> haha
#956 [15:25] <bread> vox <3
#957 [15:25] <VoxelHead> this is no man pig
#958 [15:25] <aetherian> haha
#959 [15:25] <gdare1> does anyone play minecraft with minecraft mods
#960 [15:26] <VoxelHead> Basically, i'm in a bear suit.
#961 [15:26] <dopeghoti> Many people do, I think
#962 [15:26] <bread> LOL
#963 [15:26] <aetherian> gdare1: no, I don't know the man by the name of "Minecraf T. Mods"
#964 [15:26] <bread> Basically, I'm in a VoxelHead suit.
#965 [15:26] <_303> gdare1: they don't approve of mods here it seems, better go to #mcmods if you want help with mods
#966 [15:26] <HelpMe> but I can't connect anyway... so if it checks than people outside should connect?
#967 [15:27] <HelpMe> i can only connect with local ip
#968 [15:27] <HelpMe> not outside ip
#969 [15:27] <gdare1> excellent is that the 303
#970 [15:27] <_303> oh noes the underscore it does nothing
#971 [15:27] <gdare1> like THE _303
#972 [15:27] <Ckm2> how much space do i need above groudn level to grow trees underground?
#973 [15:28] <dopeghoti> HelpMe: most routers don't handle in-and-out redirections
#974 [15:28] <dopeghoti> Ckm2: I believe 5 meters above the sapling
#975 [15:29] <Ckm2> and does it need water?
#976 [15:29] <gdare1> THE _303 that makes THE best mod's on minecraft forums?
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#978 [15:29] <HelpMe> dopeghoti but does it mean it should be ok if portchecks see it and the !check was ok too?
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#981 [15:29] <HelpMe> I just made it so I haven't tried it
#982 [15:29] <HelpMe> from outside
#983 [15:30] <dopeghoti> HelpMe: yes, that means others should be able to connect without problems
#984 [15:30] <HelpMe> thanks dopeghoti
#985 [15:30] <dopeghoti> anytime
#986 [15:30] <HelpMe> CREEEPER
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#988 [15:31] <FUXXY> Hello, someone who can help me with minecraft problems?
#989 [15:31] <bread> This isn't #minecrafthelp or anything...
#990 [15:32] <dopeghoti> ?? ask
#991 [15:32] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#992 [15:32] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#994 [15:33] <FUXXY> I wan't to try out minecraft and i start downloaded from minecraft.net, i save it to the deteskop and i doubble klick and a thing came up and i press go, and nothing is happening?
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#996 [15:34] <HelpMe> do you have java installed
#997 [15:34] <HelpMe> ?
#998 [15:34] <HelpMe> what system are u on?
#999 [15:35] <FUXXY> yes, and i got vista
#1000 [15:35] <HelpMe> try the exe version
#1001 [15:36] <HelpMe> there is a java and an exe version
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#1003 [15:36] <qsdcv> Hello...?
#1004 [15:36] <FUXXY> on the download site?
#1005 [15:36] <HelpMe> yes
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#1007 [15:37] <HelpMe> aha... sorry just 2 exe versions
#1008 [15:37] <FUXXY> ye
#1009 [15:37] <FUXXY> xD
#1010 [15:37] <HelpMe> tried them both ? :)
#1011 [15:37] <bread> You need Java regardless.
#1012 [15:37] <FUXXY> yes
#1013 [15:37] <FUXXY> regardless?
#1014 [15:37] <bread> The 'exe' version is simply a fancy repackaging of the .jar
#1015 [15:38] <bread> Yes, if you want to play minecraft, you _need_ java installed.
#1016 [15:38] <FUXXY> i got java installe
#1017 [15:38] <FUXXY> d
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#1020 [15:40] <mgz2009> Hi
#1021 [15:40] <HelpMe> http://www.web.minecraft-sk.tk/downloads.php?cat_id=1&download_id=2
#1022 [15:40] <mgz2009> Guys I have a problem >_> Can anyone help
#1023 [15:40] <HelpMe> this is some old version or something
#1024 [15:41] <HelpMe> but it updates and works
#1025 [15:41] <HelpMe> it updates to 1.4
#1026 [15:41] <bread> That's obviously not an official minecraft site.
#1027 [15:41] <bread> dot tk?
#1028 [15:41] <bread> Really?
#1029 [15:42] <_303> ?? ask
#1030 [15:42] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1031 [15:42] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1032 [15:42] <HelpMe> i don't know... it's in my language. and the download is some diffent client but they say it works when the others don't
#1033 [15:42] <mgz2009> How do I repel creeper attacks My little keep got blown up 5 times so d
#1034 [15:42] <mgz2009> far by them :(
#1035 [15:43] <mgz2009> I am confused on how to do much as I am a new carfter to the game lol
#1036 [15:43] <mgz2009> crafter*
#1037 [15:43] <HelpMe> FUXXY are you downloading?
#1038 [15:43] <bread> Don't download Minecraft from anywhere other than the official site.
#1039 [15:44] <bread> Doing otherwise is a rather stupid thing to do.
#1040 [15:44] <HelpMe> well... I got all my antiviruses running and it checks...
#1041 [15:44] <HelpMe> works too...
#1042 [15:45] <FUXXY> ye
#1043 [15:45] <FUXXY> thank you very much (:
#1044 [15:45] <FUXXY> <3
#1045 [15:45] <bread> :|
#1046 [15:45] <Floris> !paid madmikeyb
#1047 [15:47] <HelpMe> can i ask one more thing? if I want to host servers is it enough to just buy the game?
#1048 [15:47] <bread> Yes.
#1049 [15:47] <Floris> you need to get hosting :D
#1050 [15:47] <Floris> not just the game :P
#1051 [15:47] <Floris> (wait, it wasn't a trick question?)
#1052 [15:47] <HelpMe> lol
#1053 [15:47] <HelpMe> no... i mean licence-wise
#1054 [15:47] <bread> You can run a minecraft server from any computer.
#1055 [15:47] <bread> You don't _need_ an external server.
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#1057 [15:47] <HelpMe> what do you need to do to be allowed to host a server
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#1059 [15:47] <NotiCon> you dont even need to buy minecraft to host minecraft ?
#1060 [15:48] <HelpMe> I know... I'd just like to host a decent server and don't want to get it shut down or something for 15 dollars or something...
#1061 [15:49] <HelpMe> after I put effort into it
#1062 [15:49] <NotiCon> isnt it 20?
#1063 [15:49] <mgz2009> You can host a free one but it depends on how many people you want on it?
#1064 [15:49] <HelpMe> they changed it like 2 or 3 times who knows
#1065 [15:49] <NotiCon> they changed it once
#1066 [15:49] <NotiCon> at first it was 50% during alpha
#1067 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> HelpMe: to host a server, you can do that for free without purchasing the game, but to _play_ on that server, you need to have purchased the game.
#1068 [15:50] <NotiCon> now its 25% off during beta
#1069 [15:50] <HelpMe> no... first it was freee ;P
#1070 [15:50] <NotiCon> that was classic?
#1071 [15:50] <HelpMe> minecraft classic
#1072 [15:50] <HelpMe> ok man... don't pull off that comicbookguy stuff on me :)
#1073 [15:51] <HelpMe> thanks
#1074 [15:51] <HelpMe> thanks DopeGhoti
#1075 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> you're welcome.
#1076 [15:52] <HelpMe> bye guys! very helpfull!
#1077 [15:53] * bread registeres the nick 'helpme'
#1077 [15:53] <NotiCon> you wouldnt dare
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#1084 [16:08] <mib_haxgh6mm> yo all
#1085 [16:08] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1086 [16:08] <bread> :D
#1087 [16:08] <VoxelHead> =D
#1088 [16:08] <bread> :>
#1089 [16:09] <mib_haxgh6mm> ')
#1090 [16:09] <mib_haxgh6mm> .")
#1091 [16:09] <mib_haxgh6mm> ,')
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#1093 [16:09] <mib_haxgh6mm> lol
#1094 [16:10] <VoxelHead> Bye Snow4|RDP^
#1095 [16:10] <mib_haxgh6mm> listen cial
#1096 [16:10] <Cial> ?
#1097 [16:10] <bread> !
#1098 [16:10] <Cial> you hath summoned me?
#1099 [16:10] <VoxelHead> Well slap my ring finger and call me a poop-mustard.
#1100 [16:10] <mib_haxgh6mm> nvm i whas trying something
#1101 [16:10] <mib_haxgh6mm> cause no one is talking
#1102 [16:10] <mib_haxgh6mm> soo
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#1104 [16:11] <mib_haxgh6mm> what you guys think about the 1.5 update comming soon
#1105 [16:15] <mib_haxgh6mm> ****
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#1113 [16:26] <jagjr> Hi , can i get some help with the Single player mod for Minecraft?
#1114 [16:26] <_303> mod help -> #mcmods
#1115 [16:26] <jagjr> Thanks :)
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#1117 [16:26] <_303> or #risucraft if nobody responds
#1118 [16:27] <Meidor_> Hello I'm trying to start my minecraft server after a fresh reboot of my server and it keeps saying, cannot bind to port 25565 are you sure there is no other minecraft server running. Im sure because I just rebooted. I'm using ubuntu 10.10 btw
#1119 [16:27] <Meidor_> any ideas?
#1120 [16:27] <aetherian> go into task manager and try deleting all processes using java, unless you are doing something using java on web browser/etc
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#1122 [16:28] <Liros> Hi everyone. I've got a question that probably seems silly... I just made a new skin, and when I put it in, and tell it upload, it works for me in-game, but when I click the link that says to show it to others, it says "...or not." and has the "click here to go back!" link. Am I doing something wrong?
#1123 [16:28] <Meidor_> i did a fresh reboot of my headless ubuntu 10.10 server so no processes are running so dont think thats the problem, tried to do a killall java and then restart the server but that didnt work either
#1124 [16:28] <VoxelHead> And then a giraffe came.
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#1126 [16:29] <Liros> My web browser is Firefox (version just before 4.0) if that matters.
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#1129 [16:34] <Liros> Uh... Hello?
#1130 [16:34] <Kealper> hi
#1131 [16:34] <Kealper> now that i'm back
#1132 [16:34] * Kealper reads
#1132 [16:34] <bread> hi Kealper :>
#1133 [16:35] * Liros had wondered if she killed the chat...
#1133 [16:35] <NotiCon> you did :(
#1134 [16:35] <NotiCon> damn oyu
#1135 [16:35] <Kealper> females on the internet? blasphemy!
#1136 [16:35] <NotiCon> you*
#1137 [16:35] <NotiCon> also what Kealper said
#1138 [16:35] <Kealper> Liros: the skin viewing on the site is disabled for right now
#1139 [16:35] <bread> females are alie.
#1140 [16:35] <Liros> Ah, so I just can't show the skin off, but it still works?
#1141 [16:36] <Kealper> Liros: correct
#1142 [16:36] <Kealper> you'd have to show them in-game for now :/
#1143 [16:36] <Liros> Ok. Thanks for the info.
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#1147 [16:38] <LGames> Party's here.
#1148 [16:39] <Guthixrule9> Hi, I was wondering about help for making a minecraft server
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#1150 [16:39] <Guthixrule9> Welcome, itmangerber
#1151 [16:40] <Guthixrule9> Any suggestions about where to download a Minecraft server?
#1152 [16:40] <bread> uh, minecraft.net ?
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#1154 [16:40] <Guthixrule9> Yeah well I looked there cant find any links
#1155 [16:40] <bread> Then you didn't look hard enough. :|
#1156 [16:41] <Guthixrule9> I found it
#1157 [16:41] <bread> Good job.
#1158 [16:41] <Guthixrule9> ...lol
#1159 [16:42] <Guthixrule9> Ok I dowloaded it now what?
#1160 [16:42] <bread> Run it?
#1161 [16:42] <Kealper> move it to somewhere that it will not get hurt and run it
#1162 [16:42] <Guthixrule9> The file type is a "file" file type
#1163 [16:43] <bread> wat
#1164 [16:43] <Guthixrule9> I may have downloaded the linuc or max version x.x
#1165 [16:43] <Kealper> what did you click on? the jar or the exe link?
#1166 [16:43] <Guthixrule9> linux*
#1167 [16:43] <Guthixrule9> i clicked the exe link im pretty sure
#1168 [16:43] <Guthixrule9> yeah i did
#1169 [16:43] <Kealper> put .exe on the end
#1170 [16:43] <Kealper> run it
#1171 [16:43] <Guthixrule9> Oh.
#1172 [16:44] <Kealper> some browsers suck like that >:(
#1173 [16:44] <Guthixrule9> Why didn't they upload it with an .exe file tag in the firstr placer?
#1174 [16:44] <Guthixrule9> oh k.
#1175 [16:44] <Kealper> it is, but your browser thought otherwise :/
#1176 [16:44] <Guthixrule9> I.E. 9.
#1177 [16:44] <Kealper> trying to type with bandaids on both of my middle fingers is hard
#1178 [16:45] <Guthixrule9> ...wow
#1179 [16:45] <fizyplankton> Kealper: ..................fail
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#1181 [16:45] <harrihu> Hello
#1182 [16:45] <Kealper> lol
#1183 [16:45] <Kealper> hi
#1184 [16:45] <Guthixrule9> Alright I had a server before but I deleted it cuz i didnt know how to work it lol
#1185 [16:45] * Kealper installs CodeLite
#1185 [16:45] <Guthixrule9> it was like server version 1.3 alpha
#1186 [16:46] <fizyplankton> so uh, can someone try to connect to smp markv.doesntexist.com? and NOT apam telnet attempts?
#1187 [16:46] <Guthixrule9> But this is the current one
#1188 [16:46] <bread> lol IE
#1189 [16:46] <Kealper> fizyplankton: when i did that one time, i actually tried the client
#1190 [16:46] <Guthixrule9> I.E. 9 is at least better
#1191 [16:46] <Kealper> i'm not a failnub like others in here >.>
#1192 [16:46] <bread> IE still sucks completely.
#1193 [16:46] <Kealper> ^
#1194 [16:47] <fizyplankton> Kealper: i know someone tried to telnet me.
#1195 [16:47] <Kealper> IE9's HTML5 support is a joke
#1196 [16:47] <Kealper> fizyplankton: aetherian was
#1197 [16:47] <bread> IE in general is a joke.
#1198 [16:47] * fizyplankton shoves a railroad spike into aetherian where the sun dont not shine
#1198 [16:47] <Guthixrule9> Well whatever. I have Opera and Chrome too but I dont use Opera
#1199 [16:47] <fizyplankton> i use chrome
#1200 [16:47] <Guthixrule9> ANYWAY,
#1201 [16:47] <bread> Then use Chrome?
#1202 [16:47] <Guthixrule9> yeah GC is fast
#1203 [16:48] * Kealper prefers Firefox 4.2 nightlies
#1203 [16:48] <fizyplankton> firefox is a close second. but chrome is better in my opinion. but just barely
#1204 [16:48] <Guthixrule9> whateveranyway, do I just goto multiplayer with the server running and connect to my own server?
#1205 [16:48] <VoxelHead> a floppy disk
#1206 [16:48] <Kealper> have you used the latest firefox builds? lol
#1207 [16:48] <harrihu> We are having trouble with world edit. When it was on there were some trees I couldn't break with my axe and my friend said that he couldn't break some blocks I was placing. Ideas?
#1208 [16:49] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: yeah
#1209 [16:49] <bread> I switched back to FX from Chromium when 4 came out :>
#1210 [16:49] <Guthixrule9> Also I was wondering I dont wanna give my IP away so, is there a way to get around that
#1211 [16:49] <Guthixrule9> and use the server anyway?
#1212 [16:49] <bread> no
#1213 [16:49] <Guthixrule9> oh well damn.
#1214 [16:49] <bread> if anyone else is going to connect, they need the IP
#1215 [16:49] <Guthixrule9> eh my friends arent that smart anyway
#1216 [16:49] <harrihu> or the ip needs to become a url
#1217 [16:50] <Guthixrule9> What about a downloaded proxy?
#1218 [16:50] <bread> loool
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#1220 [16:50] <Rui_rui> Damnit, Minecraft is so frustrating.
#1221 [16:50] <Guthixrule9> ...lol
#1222 [16:50] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: http://dyndns.org :P
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#1224 [16:50] <Guthixrule9> hang on
#1225 [16:51] <Guthixrule9> wow a free domain server
#1226 [16:51] <Rui_rui> Anybody feel like taking on a challenge?
#1227 [16:51] <harrihu> Anyone here know about World Edit for Craft Bukkit?
#1228 [16:51] <Guthixrule9> is it crappy like webs?
#1229 [16:51] <Kealper> harrihu: we don't really do mod support in here, you could try asking in #mcmods or in #bukkit if #mcmods is dead
#1230 [16:51] <harrihu> oh thank you Kealper
#1231 [16:51] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: webs is garbage, DynDNS is a totally different thing
#1232 [16:52] <Guthixrule9> yeah i know webs is garbage
#1233 [16:52] <Kealper> it lets you point a domain name to your IP for free
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#1235 [16:52] <Guthixrule9> oh so basically
#1236 [16:52] <Kealper> so you could have Guthixrule9.dyndns.org and it could connect to your minecraft server
#1237 [16:52] <Guthixrule9> i can also use it for irc too?
#1238 [16:53] <Guthixrule9> If I just connect through it
#1239 [16:53] <Kealper> you don't connect through it
#1240 [16:53] <Guthixrule9> I meant irc,
#1241 [16:53] <Guthixrule9> whatevs
#1242 [16:54] <Kealper> it's sort of like an alias for your home IP
#1243 [16:54] <Guthixrule9> ok ill use it
#1244 [16:54] <Guthixrule9> oh
#1245 [16:54] <Guthixrule9> sweet
#1246 [16:54] <VoxelHead> Sweeeeeeeeeeet.
#1247 [16:54] <bread> awwww yeah
#1248 [16:54] <Kealper> so your friends never see your real IP, and if your IP ever changes, you just update it i DynDNS and that name still works
#1249 [16:54] <Rui_rui> No one?
#1250 [16:54] <Kealper> Rui_rui: hmm?
#1251 [16:54] * Kealper looks up
#1251 [16:54] <Guthixrule9> do you have to make an account?
#1252 [16:54] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: yes, but that is free
#1253 [16:55] <Rui_rui> I've got a problem with my server, and it's been... difficult, finding the problem. :v Let alone solving it.
#1254 [16:55] <Guthixrule9> alright thats not a problem ill make an account
#1255 [16:55] <Guthixrule9> and it would be easier to remember than an IP anyway
#1256 [16:55] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: that's another benifit to using a dynamic dns service
#1257 [16:56] <Kealper> Rui_rui: what sort of problem?
#1258 [16:56] <Guthixrule9> im guessing the hostname doesnt matter right?
#1259 [16:56] <Rui_rui> Well. No one can get into my server.
#1260 [16:56] <Rui_rui> Except for myself.
#1261 [16:57] <Kealper> what ip are you giving them?
#1262 [16:57] <Kealper> and have you forwarded the port in your router?
#1263 [16:57] <Guthixrule9> My home one, thats where i play minecraft
#1264 [16:57] <Rui_rui> Yes. You want the specific IP address?
#1265 [16:57] <Guthixrule9> and i know my port
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#1268 [16:57] <Guthixrule9> ...
#1269 [16:57] <Guthixrule9> oh ur asking him...
#1270 [16:57] <Guthixrule9> lol srry
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#1272 [16:58] <Kealper> Rui_rui: uhh...just the first two sets of numbers in it, like mine would be 67.177
#1273 [16:59] <Guthixrule9> do i check off "wildcard"?
#1274 [16:59] <Rui_rui> 69.134
#1275 [16:59] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: don't use wildcards
#1276 [16:59] <Kealper> Rui_rui: hmm..and the port is forwarded to the correct computer on your network?
#1277 [17:00] <Rui_rui> Yep.
#1278 [17:00] <Kealper> hmm...
#1279 [17:01] <Guthixrule9> what does woldcard do anywho?
#1280 [17:01] <Guthixrule9> *wildcard
#1281 [17:01] <Kealper> it's been so long since i've used DynDNS i don't even know anymore, i just remember it was not desireable lol
#1282 [17:01] <Guthixrule9> lol
#1283 [17:02] <Kealper> Rui_rui: type !check
#1284 [17:02] <Kealper> in here
#1285 [17:02] <Rui_rui> !check
#1286 [17:02] <Kealper> hmm...
#1287 [17:02] <Rui_rui> Oh
#1288 [17:02] <Rui_rui> I think
#1289 [17:02] <Rui_rui> I should run my server first
#1290 [17:02] <Rui_rui> XD
#1291 [17:02] <Kealper> that'd help lol
#1292 [17:02] <Wug> ....
#1293 [17:03] <Rui_rui> !check
#1294 [17:03] <Kealper> :/
#1295 [17:03] <Kealper> no firewalls or any antivirus software installed?
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#1297 [17:04] <Rui_rui> I do, but when I turn them off, nothing changes
#1298 [17:04] <Rui_rui> I'll double check
#1299 [17:04] <Kealper> make sure windows firewall is disabled too
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#1301 [17:05] <Guthixrule9> did the server pckage come with an .ini file?
#1302 [17:05] <Kealper> no
#1303 [17:05] <Guthixrule9> alright
#1304 [17:05] <Kealper> you should have it running from it's own folder so you don't accidentally delete something that it needs :/
#1305 [17:06] <Guthixrule9> Yeah thats what i just created
#1306 [17:06] <Guthixrule9> a new folder
#1307 [17:06] <Kealper> k
#1308 [17:06] <Kealper> just run the exe and it will make all the other files it needs
#1309 [17:06] <Guthixrule9> alright i made a DNS account
#1310 [17:06] <Guthixrule9> DynDNS
#1311 [17:07] <Kealper> what name did you choose?
#1312 [17:07] <Guthixrule9> does it matter lol
#1313 [17:07] <Kealper> well i was going to have aubot check it (or you could do that) to make sure it works
#1314 [17:07] <Guthixrule9> yeah i could
#1315 [17:07] <Guthixrule9> anyway
#1316 [17:07] <Rui_rui> Okay
#1317 [17:07] <Rui_rui> !check
#1318 [17:08] <Guthixrule9> i need help with the actual domain creating process
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#1320 [17:08] <Rui_rui> Both Firewall and AntiVirus are turned off
#1321 [17:08] <fizyplankton> lol 69
#1322 [17:08] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: lemme go to the site and actually look at it..
#1323 [17:08] <fizyplankton> I WANT THAT IP
#1324 [17:08] <Rui_rui> So that didn't do anything
#1325 [17:08] <Guthixrule9> Aight.
#1326 [17:08] <VoxelHead> wowsers
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#1328 [17:09] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: ok are you on the main page?
#1329 [17:09] <Guthixrule9> I am now
#1330 [17:09] <Kealper> and logged in?
#1331 [17:09] <Guthixrule9> Yep
#1332 [17:09] <Kealper> https://www.dyndns.com/account/services/zones/svc/add.html <-- go here
#1333 [17:10] <Guthixrule9> uh ok im there
#1334 [17:10] <Kealper> wait
#1335 [17:10] <Kealper> maybe not, lemme look more
#1336 [17:10] <Kealper> dangit, copied the wrong url
#1337 [17:10] <Kealper> https://www.dyndns.com/account/services/hosts/add.html
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#1339 [17:11] <Guthixrule9> ok im there
#1340 [17:11] <Mario8236> I need help. :/
#1341 [17:11] <Mario8236> :(
#1342 [17:11] <Kealper> should be fairly straight-forward, choose the name you want, and leave everything else at it's default
#1343 [17:11] <VoxelHead> *befriends Mario8236*
#1344 [17:11] <Guthixrule9> oh ok.
#1345 [17:11] <Kealper> Mario8236: what sort of help?
#1346 [17:11] <Mario8236> Mods help.
#1347 [17:12] <Mario8236> Modding.
#1348 [17:12] <Guthixrule9> .org ftw lol
#1349 [17:12] <Kealper> Rui_rui: are you able to plug your computer directly into your modem instead of through the router?
#1350 [17:12] <Mario8236> I installed them riht.
#1351 [17:12] <Mario8236> right*
#1352 [17:12] <Guthixrule9> er at the end it says add to cart..
#1353 [17:12] <Kealper> Mario8236: we don't really provide mod support here.... :/
#1354 [17:12] <Mario8236> :(
#1355 [17:12] * VoxelHead tickles mario8236
#1355 [17:12] <Mario8236> :D
#1356 [17:12] <VoxelHead> =)
#1357 [17:13] * bread eats VoxelHead :>
#1357 [17:13] * Mario8236 laughs
#1357 [17:13] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: as long as you don't have more than like 2 of those (and you don't since it's a new account) then it's free
#1358 [17:13] <VoxelHead> ~oof~
#1359 [17:13] <bread> :D
#1360 [17:13] <Mario8236> :O
#1361 [17:13] <Mario8236> :P
#1362 [17:13] <VoxelHead> well slap my ass and call me VoxelHead
#1363 [17:13] <Guthixrule9> ok
#1364 [17:13] <Kealper> :o
#1365 [17:13] <_303> Mario8236: #mcmods or #risucraft
#1366 [17:13] <Guthixrule9> ill probably only make 1 anyway
#1367 [17:13] <VoxelHead> well i'll be a monkey's uncle
#1368 [17:13] <Kealper> vox, you dirty bot
#1369 [17:13] <Rui_rui> Kealper: What
#1370 [17:13] <Mario8236> _303: Thanks.
#1371 [17:13] <Mario8236> ;)
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#1373 [17:14] <Kealper> Rui_rui: is your router and your modem two separate boxes? or does a cable (or phone) line run right in to your router?
#1374 [17:14] <Guthixrule9> let me guess check off "host with IP adress"
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#1376 [17:15] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: i'd tell you exactly what to do, but i can't actually view that page since my account already has the max for a free account lol
#1377 [17:15] <Guthixrule9> lol
#1378 [17:15] <Rui_rui> I.. honestly don't know
#1379 [17:16] <Guthixrule9> aright this host is online
#1380 [17:16] <Guthixrule9> that i made
#1381 [17:16] <Guthixrule9> Now i need to know how to link my MC server to that lol
#1382 [17:16] <Kealper> Rui_rui: well then, try calling and yelling at your ISP saying that you can't get forwarding working? i assume they gave you the router, they should know how to work it :/
#1383 [17:17] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: you entered your IP, and made the name, and it made it without problems?
#1384 [17:17] <Rui_rui> Yeah, I suppose I'll try that
#1385 [17:17] <Guthixrule9> Yeah its activated and everything
#1386 [17:18] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: nothing else needs to be done, it should just start working....might i ask what the hostname is? i can test it with nslookup
#1387 [17:18] <bread> Rui_rui: http://portforward.com ?
#1388 [17:20] <Rui_rui> Thank you, bread.
#1389 [17:20] <Guthixrule9> well yeah but er
#1390 [17:20] <Guthixrule9> hang on
#1391 [17:22] <Rui_rui> Yeah, it's saying my port isn't open.
#1392 [17:22] <Guthixrule9> how do you check it?
#1393 [17:22] <Kealper> that is what AuBot is here for :/
#1394 [17:22] <Rui_rui> Hold on
#1395 [17:22] <Rui_rui> Is it
#1396 [17:22] <Rui_rui> Supposed to be
#1397 [17:22] <Rui_rui> TCP or UDP
#1398 [17:22] <Kealper> that !check thing is a port checking tool that checks for the port that minecraft runs on
#1399 [17:22] <Kealper> TCP
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#1401 [17:22] <Rui_rui> It's
#1402 [17:22] <Rui_rui> Saying its open on UDP
#1403 [17:23] <Guthixrule9> oh
#1404 [17:23] <Rui_rui> But not on TCP
#1405 [17:23] <Guthixrule9> so minecraft auto detects the host i set up?
#1406 [17:23] <Kealper> Rui_rui: are you sure you did the port forward correctly?
#1407 [17:23] <Rui_rui> Wait
#1408 [17:23] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: not really, it just uses all available
#1409 [17:23] <Rui_rui> Now its saying its open on TCP sdkfjsdfklsj
#1410 [17:24] <Guthixrule9> oh.
#1411 [17:24] <Kealper> Rui_rui: did you touch server.properties on your server at all
#1412 [17:24] <Rui_rui> No
#1413 [17:24] <Guthixrule9> ok what do i puit for the port whe i log in?
#1414 [17:24] <Rui_rui> I was actually making brand new servers to check on this
#1415 [17:24] <Rui_rui> !check
#1416 [17:24] <Rui_rui> Oh wait
#1417 [17:24] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: you don't need to specify the port if you are using port 25565 (the default)
#1418 [17:24] <Rui_rui> Herp herp
#1419 [17:24] <Guthixrule9> alright
#1420 [17:25] <Rui_rui> !check
#1421 [17:25] <Rui_rui> B|
#1422 [17:25] <fizyplankton> !check
#1423 [17:25] <Rui_rui> On the server it says the bot lost connection
#1424 [17:25] <Guthixrule9> alright um yeah it wont work
#1425 [17:26] <Kealper> Rui_rui: wait, is there a connection that is being accepted and lost from the IP 67.177.131.104?
#1426 [17:26] <Rui_rui> !check
#1427 [17:26] <Rui_rui> ...
#1428 [17:26] <Rui_rui> !check
#1429 [17:27] <Rui_rui> Okay, yeah, there it is.
#1430 [17:27] <fizyplankton> thats weird. the bot didnt ping me
#1431 [17:27] <Guthixrule9> pong
#1432 [17:27] <Guthixrule9> ...lol
#1433 [17:27] <Kealper> fizyplankton: what?
#1434 [17:27] <fizyplankton> idf i !check, the bot doesnt ping me
#1435 [17:27] <Guthixrule9> pong
#1436 [17:27] <fizyplankton> !check
#1437 [17:28] <fizyplankton> t just shows up normal
#1438 [17:28] <Guthixrule9> Well Kealper is my host fine and all?
#1439 [17:28] <Kealper> your client is probably dumb
#1440 [17:28] <fizyplankton> hey! im using irssi
#1441 [17:28] <fizyplankton> and you pingd me fine a second ago
#1442 [17:28] <Guthixrule9> pong
#1443 [17:28] <Rui_rui> So, yes, Kealper, to your question.
#1444 [17:28] <fizyplankton> will you shut up?
#1445 [17:28] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: yeah it resolves to your IP, you did port forwarding in your router right?
#1446 [17:28] <Guthixrule9> Er actually i dont control router acess
#1447 [17:29] <Guthixrule9> Access
#1448 [17:29] <Kealper> this could be an issue then
#1449 [17:29] <Guthixrule9> idk it might be
#1450 [17:29] <Guthixrule9> though
#1451 [17:29] <Kealper> Rui_rui: that's rather weird, 1 sec
#1452 [17:29] <Rui_rui> Okay
#1453 [17:30] <Kealper> Rui_rui: anything from that?
#1454 [17:31] <Rui_rui> Yes. The same address could not connect.
#1455 [17:31] <Rui_rui> Er
#1456 [17:31] <Kealper> weird
#1457 [17:31] <Rui_rui> "lost connection"
#1458 [17:31] <Guthixrule9> also when i try to connect to my server through IP it says time out connect
#1459 [17:31] <Kealper> are you sure you have absolutely no firewall software (even windows firewall) running?
#1460 [17:31] <Guthixrule9> and the server is running currrently
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#1462 [17:32] <Kealper> because the connection is being made just fine, but something is killing it before it can be fully established
#1463 [17:32] <Guthixrule9> er yes it says firewall is on
#1464 [17:32] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: try using the IP 127.0.0.1
#1465 [17:32] <Rui_rui> Hmm
#1466 [17:33] <Guthixrule9> alright im in that server u asked me to goto
#1467 [17:33] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: that's yours
#1468 [17:33] <Kealper> 127.0.0.1 is also called "local host"
#1469 [17:33] <Guthixrule9> ...oh
#1470 [17:33] <Guthixrule9> so..
#1471 [17:34] <Guthixrule9> alright but OTHER people will have to use my host then?
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#1473 [17:34] <gdare1> hey i'm back
#1474 [17:34] <gdare1> i forgot the name of that video card you people suggested for me
#1475 [17:34] <Kealper> the server works fine basically, but unless you can forward port 25565 to your computer, no one else will be able to connect
#1476 [17:34] <Rui_rui> How would I know if I have other firewalls going, besides Windows Firewall
#1477 [17:35] <Rui_rui> Although I'm pretty sure I don't...
#1478 [17:35] <Kealper> Rui_rui: did you install one? lol
#1479 [17:35] <Guthixrule9> kealper is that on default on most routers?
#1480 [17:35] <gdare1> people please
#1481 [17:35] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: port 25565 is the port that minecraft uses
#1482 [17:35] <Guthixrule9> oh
#1483 [17:35] <Kealper> gdare1: hmm?
#1484 [17:35] <Guthixrule9> Well yes that might be a problem then
#1485 [17:35] <gdare1> what video card is the best video card for minecraft
#1486 [17:36] <Rui_rui> I don't think so! I'm pretty sure the only thing I've installed was TrendMicro
#1487 [17:36] <Kealper> gdare1: were you in here before with the same name? i could search my logs and see what others said
#1488 [17:36] <Rui_rui> Which is my antivirus
#1489 [17:36] <gdare1> yes i was here
#1490 [17:36] <gdare1> same name
#1491 [17:36] <Kealper> gdare1: gimme a few then, i'll try to find the link they sent
#1492 [17:36] <Guthixrule9> hm... so its impossible for any1 to join now pretty much, kealper?
#1493 [17:37] <Rui_rui> If I were to put an exception on the program, what would I use? The server.exe?
#1494 [17:37] <Kealper> Rui_rui: and you tried disabling that for now?
#1495 [17:37] <Kealper> Rui_rui: no idea, never used trend micro :/
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#1497 [17:37] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: well....i'll probably be shot for saying this, but there is always Hamachi
#1498 [17:37] <Guthixrule9> lol idk what tht is
#1499 [17:38] <Rui_rui> !check
#1500 [17:38] <Rui_rui> Yeah, turning it off does nothing.
#1501 [17:38] <Guthixrule9> is hamachi bad or something?
#1502 [17:38] <Guthixrule9> somehow
#1503 [17:39] <gdare1> kealper what do you suggest is the best video card to run mc
#1504 [17:39] <Kealper> ?? fubar/hamachi
#1505 [17:39] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1506 [17:39] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1507 [17:39] <Kealper> gdare1: that very heavily depends on many things
#1508 [17:39] <gdare1> ok what do you want me to check about my comp
#1509 [17:40] <Guthixrule9> oh
#1510 [17:40] <Rui_rui> hnng so frustrating
#1511 [17:40] <Guthixrule9> i know u cant really discuss anything about it much, but i just have 1 question about hamachi or fubar
#1512 [17:40] <Guthixrule9> Does it steal IPs?
#1513 [17:41] <Kealper> gdare1: i can't seem to find any link someone else may have sent
#1514 [17:41] <Guthixrule9> just a yes or no answer would be fine x.x
#1515 [17:41] <gdare1> ok well what should i find out about my comp so you can help me
#1516 [17:41] <Kealper> FUBAR is a military term for saying something is completely messed up
#1517 [17:41] <Kealper> gdare1: i guess....
#1518 [17:41] <Guthixrule9> oh
#1519 [17:41] <Ir0nman> i just dumped himachi but my servers not working proplery
#1520 [17:41] <Ir0nman> all other players play fine
#1521 [17:42] <Ir0nman> i have high latnecy on my own network!
#1522 [17:42] <Ir0nman> takes 2-3 seconds to register things
#1523 [17:42] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: and Hamachi is not really stealing IPs, since they were not being used..but it's not the best
#1524 [17:42] <Kealper> Ir0nman: are you hosting off the same computer you are playing with?
#1525 [17:42] <Ir0nman> no 2 seperate 1
#1526 [17:42] <Kealper> because you need a beast of a computer to pull that off without lagging yourself
#1527 [17:43] <Kealper> O.o....wireless?
#1528 [17:43] <Guthixrule9> oohh but its unsafe because its a direct link to sum1s computer right?
#1529 [17:43] <gdare1> should i just see my local computer shop?
#1530 [17:43] <Rui_rui> Sssssssso
#1531 [17:43] <Rui_rui> I'm guessing
#1532 [17:43] <Rui_rui> That it's not a problem with my router
#1533 [17:43] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: no...it just makes stuff lag, and is generally just hated in this channel lol
#1534 [17:43] <Guthixrule9> oh lol
#1535 [17:43] <Guthixrule9> alright then
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#1537 [17:44] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: it works in a pinch, but it is better in the long run to forward the port through the router if you can
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#1539 [17:44] <Rui_rui> Or should I try calling them anyway :v
#1540 [17:44] <Guthixrule9> my connection isnt that great anyway... i wont go thru the trouble of installing hamachi
#1541 [17:44] <gdare1> i'm going to call my local comp shop
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#1543 [17:44] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: googling it should bring up a ton of stuff about setting it up and how to play using it
#1544 [17:44] <Guthixrule9> ill just contact my router operater
#1545 [17:44] <Guthixrule9> yeah im at wikiperdia
#1546 [17:44] <Guthixrule9> *wikipedia
#1547 [17:44] <Kealper> wut
#1548 [17:45] <Guthixrule9> it would just be easier to switch ports : /
#1549 [17:46] <Kealper> Rui_rui: yeah, it's probably something stupid with the way your router has forwarding set up, and your ISP is probably going to know best, since all router models are different :/
#1550 [17:46] <Guthixrule9> do you HAVE to have a router btw?
#1551 [17:46] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: changing the port it used would not help, it would still require that the port be forwarded
#1552 [17:46] <Guthixrule9> what if you have like an ethernet cable?
#1553 [17:46] <Rui_rui> Okay
#1554 [17:46] <Guthixrule9> i meant forewarding ports
#1555 [17:47] <Kealper> Guthixrule9: uhh...you've got a router if you have more than one computer using the internet in a house :/
#1556 [17:47] <Guthixrule9> well yeah i know tht lol
#1557 [17:47] <Guthixrule9> just nvm the question
#1558 [17:47] <Ir0nman> the server is wireless
#1559 [17:47] <Guthixrule9> well the server is going to have to wait then x.x
#1560 [17:47] <Ir0nman> i can switc it to wired just to see what happens
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#1562 [17:48] <Kealper> but basically port forwarding just tells the router what computer should handle the traffic on that specific port....if you don't do it, the router has no idea what computer is hosting the minecraft server :/
#1563 [17:48] <Kealper> Ir0nman: will probably fix it, wireless is a bad idea for minecraft, and a terribad idea for hosting minecraft lol
#1564 [17:48] <VoxelHead> iless wires
#1565 [17:48] <Guthixrule9> lol
#1566 [17:49] <Guthixrule9> i wish i could do it through network magic or something
#1567 [17:49] <Guthixrule9> the router is literally locked away
#1568 [17:49] <Kealper> do i even want to ask why? lol
#1569 [17:49] <Guthixrule9> eh its cuz my mom is nosey... lol
#1570 [17:49] <Kealper> vox: activate cloak
#1571 [17:49] * VoxelHead increases power to cloak
#1571 [17:49] <Guthixrule9> and she screwed up my dads computer a long time ago
#1572 [17:50] <Guthixrule9> so...
#1573 [17:50] <Kealper> ._.
#1574 [17:50] <Kealper> vox: fire everything at AuBot
#1575 [17:50] * VoxelHead swoops in on AuBot
#1575 [17:50] * VoxelHead lauches all the escape pods
#1575 [17:50] <VoxelHead> *swoops in AuBot back with some icons*
#1576 [17:51] <Kealper> noes! AuBot!
#1577 [17:51] <Guthixrule9> like just in case, how exactly do you foreward ports?
#1578 [17:51] <Guthixrule9> and would i need to keep changing the port back to orginal and back again?
#1579 [17:51] <Kealper> that all depends on the router, http://portforward.com has a comprehensive list of how to do it on different routers
#1580 [17:51] <Guthixrule9> oh
#1581 [17:52] <Kealper> uhh....you shouldn't need to change it back....nothing else really uses the port that minecraft uses
#1582 [17:52] <Guthixrule9> k
#1583 [17:52] <Kealper> so it should only need to be done once
#1584 [17:53] <Kealper> anywho, i'm off to bed for a while...i'm tired and didn't get enough sleep last night :/
#1585 [17:53] <Guthixrule9> er you need to buy a router config software x.x
#1586 [17:54] <Kealper> no you don't
#1587 [17:54] <Kealper> top right
#1588 [17:54] <Kealper> that's just an advertisement
#1589 [17:54] <Guthixrule9> ....
#1590 [17:54] <Guthixrule9> d'oh
#1591 [17:54] <Kealper> you'd be surprized how many people get tricked by that
#1592 [17:54] <Guthixrule9> thanks for ur cooperation dude
#1593 [17:54] <Kealper> i absolutely hate portforward.com but it's the best place for that stuff ._.
#1594 [17:54] <Guthixrule9> lol
#1595 [17:55] <Kealper> just....when you do it, remember this: you don't need to download anything
#1596 [17:55] <Guthixrule9> oh
#1597 [17:55] <Kealper> if you need to check to make sure the port is working correctly, just come in here and type !check
#1598 [17:55] <Guthixrule9> alright5
#1599 [17:56] <Kealper> anywho....i'm off to bed now lol
#1600 [17:56] <Guthixrule9> sweet minecraft server is even on the list
#1601 [17:56] <Guthixrule9> alright thanks
#1602 [17:57] <Ir0nman> I am still having issues after switching to wired
#1603 [17:57] <Ir0nman> its only me noone else
#1604 [17:57] <Ir0nman> do i need ports open on my client end?
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#1606 [17:59] <Guthixrule9> ergh sorry idk
#1607 [17:59] <Guthixrule9> i was told i need to foreward my router port to my computer
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#1609 [17:59] <Guthixrule9> well the mc server port
#1610 [18:00] <Ir0nman> yeah port is open for my server
#1611 [18:00] <Guthixrule9> ok.
#1612 [18:00] <Ir0nman> if it wasnt i dont think anyone would be able to connect
#1613 [18:00] <Guthixrule9> sorry i dont know what ur problem is though lol
#1614 [18:01] <Ir0nman> lol its ok
#1615 [18:01] <Guthixrule9> well ill come back when i get it all figured out and running
#1616 [18:01] <Guthixrule9> i think
#1617 [18:01] <Guthixrule9> well,
#1618 [18:01] <Guthixrule9> when i get the port forewarded at least
#1619 [18:01] <Guthixrule9> cyall
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#1621 [18:04] <Robin> how do i prevent minecraft from lagging hugely and taking up all my system resources?
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#1624 [18:05] <Rui_rui> !check
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#1626 [18:06] <I_Eat_Plastic> Robin: Are you running singleplayer?
#1627 [18:06] <Robin> yes
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#1629 [18:06] <I_Eat_Plastic> What are your system specs? o_O
#1630 [18:07] <mudpit> cant start minecraft
#1631 [18:07] <mudpit> says i haven't downloaded the game
#1632 [18:07] <mudpit> FAQ yielded no fortune
#1633 [18:08] <Robin> 2Ghz dual core, 2GB RAM, 1.7GB swap space
#1634 [18:08] <I_Eat_Plastic> mudpit: do you have java permissions setup?
#1635 [18:08] <mudpit> let me investigate
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#1637 [18:09] <I_Eat_Plastic> Robin: have you tried running your graphics on fast, and cycled your view distance with F?
#1638 [18:10] <Robin> yes
#1639 [18:10] <I_Eat_Plastic> Im not sure about singleplayer, but if the map if larger on multiplayer it takes up a nice chunk of ram
#1640 [18:10] <I_Eat_Plastic> is larger*
#1641 [18:11] <I_Eat_Plastic> robin: what operating system are you running?
#1642 [18:11] <Robin> I_Eat_Plastic: Debian
#1643 [18:11] <fizyplankton> just curious. other than leaf textures and changing mob spawn rates, what else does fast/fancy graphics change?
#1644 [18:12] <Robin> I_Eat_Plastic: it's maibnly the CPU usage that's a problem
#1645 [18:14] <I_Eat_Plastic> robin: are you using the standalone client, or running it through a browser?
#1646 [18:14] <Robin> standalone
#1647 [18:15] <I_Eat_Plastic> robin: you should pastebin your java configuration
#1648 [18:15] <_303> there are optimizing mods that help me a ton with performance, but we mustn't talk about them here
#1649 [18:15] <Robin> where can i find it?
#1650 [18:15] <Robin> olol
#1651 [18:15] <Robin> java is using 110% of CPU
#1652 [18:16] <I_Eat_Plastic> robin: what flavor of debian?
#1653 [18:16] <Robin> Squeeze
#1654 [18:16] <Robin> Actually LMDE, but it's based on squeeze
#1655 [18:17] <I_Eat_Plastic> Robin: when is the last time you ran a java updatE?
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#1657 [18:18] <Robin> if i get those in the regular way (aptitude upgrade) then that would be 2 hours ago
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#1659 [18:20] <Robin> also my sound is dead from tghe moment i switch to another window for a moment (only the minecraft sounds), but thats not such a big problem compared to the cpu usage and lagging
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#1663 [18:26] <Robin> uh great... my laptop'ws graphics card's reaching a 97°C here
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#1668 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> Robin: I also used to have that sound problem; oddly I don't have it when I use OpenJDK rather than OracleJRE. Later revs of the Oracle JRE also do not exhibit that sound problem
#1669 [18:32] <kaws> so, water doesn't come in from the sides if i dig out a channel, and dirt doesn't turn into grass
#1670 [18:32] <kaws> how can i fix that
#1671 [18:32] <kaws> this is mc classic btw
#1672 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> kaws: not sure if grass spreads in Classic
#1673 [18:32] <kaws> it used to :/
#1674 [18:33] <kaws> like, going back to pre-beta
#1675 [18:33] <Robin> i've got java runtime 6....
#1676 [18:33] <Robin> Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 75.5C mobo: N/A gpu: 96C
#1677 [18:33] <Robin> Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
#1678 [18:33] <Robin> oh dear...
#1679 [18:33] <Robin> 95°C
#1680 [18:33] <Robin> *96
#1681 [18:34] <I_Eat_Plastic> Robin: boil some water
#1682 [18:34] <I_Eat_Plastic> ;]
#1683 [18:35] <Ir0nman> My LAN server is expeirencing problems...outsiders connect and play fine, im the only one with alot of latency
#1684 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> Ir0nman: client on the same machine as the server? or separate?
#1685 [18:35] <Ir0nman> server is on its own PC
#1686 [18:35] <Ir0nman> port is open for said PC
#1687 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> are you connecting to the LAN or the WAN IP?
#1688 [18:36] <Ir0nman> LAN IP
#1689 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> direct connection or through hubs, routers, WiFi WAPs, cans-and-strings?
#1690 [18:36] <Ir0nman> router
#1691 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> on a lark, try connecting to your WAN IP? (this will probably not work, but you never know)
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#1693 [18:37] <Robin> omg
#1694 [18:38] <Ir0nman> tried just now, same effect
#1695 [18:38] <Ir0nman> i type ingame window and i see it appear in server window instantly
#1696 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> Ir0nman: I.. have no idea. Have you tried from another PC on the LAN?
#1697 [18:38] <Ir0nman> but the server doesnt spit it out for another 3-5 seconds
#1698 [18:38] <Ir0nman> only have the 2 PCs here :(
#1699 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> Ir0nman: do you have similar problems with that PC on other servers?
#1700 [18:38] <Ir0nman> no its not the hardware
#1701 [18:38] <Ir0nman> it was working great with himachi but i dont want to use that crap no more
#1702 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> I approve of no longer using Hamachi.
#1703 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> you get a gold star
#1704 [18:39] <Ir0nman> now trying to sort out this problem
#1705 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> but seriously, have you had that PC try to connect to any other servers?
#1706 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> are there any mods involved?
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#1708 [18:40] <Rui_rui> Hi
#1709 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> hi
#1710 [18:40] <Rui_rui> Does anyone here have experience with actiontec routers.
#1711 [18:40] <Ir0nman> havent tried any other servers
#1712 [18:40] <Ir0nman> yeah i have plenty of mods + bukkit running
#1713 [18:40] <Ir0nman> thing is other can join and run fine
#1714 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> Ir0nman: try with no mods.
#1715 [18:41] <mib_5uhg93> Hello
#1716 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#1717 [18:41] <mib_5uhg93> Hi, Im unable to start minecraft from browser or download from launcher
#1718 [18:42] <Rui_rui> Does
#1719 [18:42] <Rui_rui> Anyone know
#1720 [18:43] <Rui_rui> What the "Port Map" for Minecraft is
#1721 [18:43] <mib_5uhg93> The browser briefly flashes loading done then goes to white screen. The launcher just updates and then closes down
#1722 [18:43] <Ir0nman> does the port need to be open on the client PC too?
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#1725 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> mib_jn3aae: what OS?
#1726 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> Ir0nman: no
#1727 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> ??< smp/port
#1728 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> ?? > Rui_rui smp/port
#1729 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> ??> Rui_rui smp/port
#1730 [18:49] <VoxelHead> Rui_rui: (smp/port) TCP port 25565
#1731 [18:49] <mib_jn3aae> I am Windows 7
#1732 [18:50] <Robin> then you suck :p
#1733 [18:50] <mib_jn3aae> ...
#1734 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> mib_jn3aae: Are you certain you have Java installed?
#1735 [18:51] * Robin closes the lagging cpu-slurping game and goes to bed
#1735 [18:51] <mib_jn3aae> yes I have reinstalled many times and it says I have the latest version
#1736 [18:52] <mib_jn3aae> For the launcher it also gives me an error in notepad
#1737 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> pastebin the error?
#1738 [18:53] <mib_jn3aae> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006903d218, pid=7172, tid=6956 # # JRE version: 6.0_24-b07 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (19.1-b02 mixed mode windows-amd64 compressed oops) # Problematic frame: # C [atio6axx.dll+0xd218] # # If you would like to submi
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#1740 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> bin. pastebin
#1741 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_jn3aae pastebin
#1742 [18:53] <VoxelHead> mib_jn3aae: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#1743 [18:53] <VoxelHead> mib_jn3aae: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#1744 [18:54] <mib_jn3aae> Im sorry
#1745 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> no problem (:
#1746 [18:55] <mib_jn3aae> http://pastebin.com/LmdUzdTN
#1747 [18:55] <mib_jn3aae> good?
#1748 [18:55] <VoxelHead> goooooood?
#1749 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> better, yes.
#1750 [18:55] <Rui_rui> Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
#1751 [18:55] <Rui_rui> So um
#1752 [18:56] <Rui_rui> Say... my friend is hosting a server
#1753 [18:56] <Rui_rui> And
#1754 [18:56] <Rui_rui> I'm in their server
#1755 [18:56] <Rui_rui> But... they... can't get into their own server
#1756 [18:56] <Rui_rui> Wat do.
#1757 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: send them here.
#1758 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_jn3aae win/reinst
#1759 [18:56] <VoxelHead> mib_jn3aae: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1760 [18:56] <VoxelHead> mib_jn3aae: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1762 [18:57] <Rui_rui> There he is!
#1763 [18:57] <Miles> Mm
#1764 [18:57] <mib_jn3aae> Yes I have tried that before still to no avail
#1765 [19:00] <Rui_rui> DopeGhoti?
#1766 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_jn3aae win/profile
#1767 [19:00] <VoxelHead> mib_jn3aae: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1768 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> Rui_rui: yes?
#1769 [19:00] <VoxelHead> mib_jn3aae: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1770 [19:00] <Rui_rui> Miles is the one having a problem with his server
#1771 [19:00] <Rui_rui> He can't get in but apparently I can
#1772 [19:02] <mib_jn3aae> Ok ill be back if it doesnt work
#1773 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> Miles: hello. When you try to connect to your server, do you see anything in the logs?
#1774 [19:04] <Miles> The only thing I see is Rui connecting and disconnecting. Otherwise, no supposed activity by me
#1775 [19:06] <Miles> And now I just don't see anything in the log when I try to connect
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#1777 [19:08] <TheNytangel> who else here has seen the prtal 2 commercial and laughed? :P
#1778 [19:08] <TheNytangel> portal*
#1779 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> Miles: are you attempting to connect to the server's LAN, or WAN IP? What happens on your client?
#1780 [19:11] <Miles> WAN IP. It's apparently the one that works for Rui. When I do it tells me the connection refused
#1781 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Miles: not all routers support out-and-back-in port forwarding
#1782 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> try using your LAN IP
#1783 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> (assuming you're on the LAN)
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#1785 [19:12] <mib_onzhef> hey im back
#1786 [19:12] <mib_onzhef> no g
#1787 [19:12] <mib_onzhef> go
#1788 [19:13] <mib_onzhef> dope you there?
#1789 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> no; I'm here. You are there.
#1790 [19:13] <Miles> If I have a LAN IP it's not listed on the address list
#1791 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> Miles: address list?
#1792 [19:14] <mib_onzhef> Alright well the new user thing didnt work out
#1793 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> mib_onzhef: try not not reinstalling Java, but uninstalling it, rebooting, and _then_ reinstalling it
#1794 [19:14] <mib_onzhef> ok
#1795 [19:14] <Ir0nman> this is screwd up :(
#1796 [19:14] <Miles> On my router's connection status page. Lists the DNS IPs, WAN, Gateway IP, ect
#1797 [19:14] <Ir0nman> its not even like the game freezes its just text and inputs
#1798 [19:17] <Ir0nman> got it!
#1799 [19:17] <Ir0nman> limite framerate set to false!
#1800 [19:17] <Ir0nman> i mean true! lol
#1801 [19:17] <Miles> Or DNS addresses, whichever they're called. The most networking I'm used to is setting up wireless networks.
#1802 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> Miles: the LAN is is the IP address assigned to your actual computer; it might show up on the router under 'Active DHCP leases' or 'connected hosts'
#1803 [19:21] <aetherian> oh, charlie
#1804 [19:21] <Charlie> What?
#1805 [19:21] <Miles> Alright, I got it. It was the LAN IP. It's not listed like that on the homepage but anyway.
#1806 [19:21] <Miles> It works now, DopeGhoti
#1807 [19:21] <Miles> Thank you.
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#1809 [19:22] <FireRat> Hello, is anyone here good at redstone that can help me out?
#1810 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> Miles: cheers!
#1811 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8 (:
#1812 [19:23] <Miles> Oh dear, I'm afraid I'm not that moneyed
#1813 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> I'll settle for your undying gratitude and some cupcakes.
#1814 [19:23] <aetherian> I'd just settle for cupcakes, if I were him.
#1815 [19:23] <Miles> I can make some pretty nice chocolate chip cookies, but I've never made cupcakes :(
#1816 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> cookies are also acceptable
#1817 [19:24] <aetherian> no nuts?
#1818 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> since I can't really chew right now, I'd prefer not
#1819 [19:25] <aetherian> Miles: add in some full size peanuts
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#1821 [19:25] <mib_g1zdoi> Still no luck
#1822 [19:25] <aetherian> pity.
#1823 [19:26] <Miles> Unfortunately, he might have to wait until cookies can be transferred over standard TCP/IP
#1824 [19:27] <aetherian> they can
#1825 [19:27] <mib_g1zdoi> So am I basically screwed?
#1826 [19:27] <aetherian> people get cookies all the time
#1827 [19:27] <aetherian> over da innernet
#1828 [19:27] <Miles> Not the yummy kind though
#1829 [19:27] <aetherian> no
#1830 [19:27] <aetherian> but still1
#1831 [19:27] <aetherian> err, exclamation point, even
#1832 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> mib_g1zdoi: what sort of computer ar eyou trying to use to play?
#1833 [19:28] <mib_g1zdoi> An asus g73jh
#1834 [19:28] <aetherian> arrr, ey'ou
#1835 [19:28] <aetherian> oh nice
#1836 [19:28] <mib_g1zdoi> ty
#1837 [19:28] <aetherian> those computers look awesome
#1838 [19:28] <aetherian> better than by ugly thing anyway
#1839 [19:29] <aetherian> s/by/my
#1840 [19:29] <VoxelHead> You suck at the regular expression syntax.
#1841 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> mib_g1zdoi: that means nothing to me. RAM? CPU? HGPU?
#1842 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> er, GPU?
#1843 [19:30] <mib_g1zdoi> oh one sec
#1844 [19:30] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: i7 CPU
#1845 [19:31] <mib_g1zdoi> 6.0 ram
#1846 [19:31] <aetherian> I think it has either 4 or 8... oh, maybe not.
#1847 [19:31] <aetherian> 1GB GPU, iirc
#1848 [19:31] <aetherian> could be off, though
#1849 [19:32] <aetherian> I forget what the sound card is :|
#1850 [19:32] <aetherian> I think the jh model doesn't have blu-ray burning.
#1851 [19:32] <mib_g1zdoi> no it doesnt
#1852 [19:32] <aetherian> I knew it!
#1853 [19:33] <mib_g1zdoi> ati mobility radeon HD 5870
#1854 [19:33] <mib_g1zdoi> sound is EAX advanced HD 4.0
#1855 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Well, that sounds like it should at least run and not produce the error you're getting, with is basically Java exploding
#1856 [19:34] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: "at least run"
#1857 [19:34] <aetherian> heh
#1858 [19:34] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1859 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> that error log is essentially the shrapnel from Java's self-immolation
#1860 [19:34] <mib_g1zdoi> lol
#1861 [19:34] <mib_g1zdoi> oh
#1862 [19:34] <mib_g1zdoi> what could cause it?
#1863 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> I suppose you could try reinstalling your video drivers; I'm not sure what else to try
#1864 [19:35] <aetherian> reinstall...everything :D
#1865 [19:36] <mib_g1zdoi> I've seen other people with diff error reports on forums... im like only one with the "pointing to unknown location"
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#1867 [19:38] <mib_g1zdoi> I mean my Graphics card can run crysis... why not mc?
#1868 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> ?? requirements
#1869 [19:40] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
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#1871 [19:41] <ryan0951> hello i have a ?
#1872 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> and I have a .
#1873 [19:42] <ryan0951> if i was to buy the premium account now would i have to pay more money when the game is finished
#1874 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> No.
#1875 [19:42] <ryan0951> ooo sweet and i dont know if i can say this but
#1876 [19:42] <ryan0951> is making servers easy
#1877 [19:42] <mib_g1zdoi> @voxel I have 6 gb of ram, ati hd 5870 graphics card & i7 processor...
#1878 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> mib_g1zdoi: again.. reinstall your video drivers. you can't have done that already. and it's worth a try.
#1879 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> ryan0951: for those who can follow instructions, yes.
#1880 [19:44] <ryan0951> good umm is there like a step by step instuction guide
#1881 [19:44] <mib_g1zdoi> alright... prob will be back in a few....
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#1883 [19:45] <chipery> So im having an issue when logging onto my server
#1884 [19:45] <chipery> anyone willing to help ?:O
#1885 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> ryan0951: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp instructions under the heading "Multiplayer beta server software"
#1886 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> chipery: you'll have to be more specific
#1887 [19:45] <chipery> okay.
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#1889 [19:46] <chipery> Well every time i log onto my server, i am able to log on but it's like the world doesn't load. I'm falling through sky, sometimes landing on some sort of landmass. Then i will disconnect with an error
#1890 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> chipery: are you running any sort of security of other firewall software?
#1891 [19:47] <ryan0951> not very good instuctions but do what it says
#1892 [19:47] <chipery> yes, i will disable it and retry
#1893 [19:47] <chipery> nothing happened
#1894 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> chipery: what software have you got?
#1895 [19:48] <chipery> norton
#1896 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> Hm.
#1897 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> are you running the server and client on the same system?
#1898 [19:48] <chipery> yes
#1899 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> ah. That's a known problem with trying to do that.
#1900 [19:48] <chipery> ug :\
#1901 [19:48] <chipery> Any fixes for it?
#1902 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> other than running the server and client on separate machines?
#1903 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> how much RAM have you?
#1904 [19:49] <chipery> 3gig
#1905 [19:49] <naturalviolence_> to run the standalone client (minecraft.jar) you're supposed to just open it with the java runtime correct?
#1906 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> naturalviolence_: yes
#1907 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> chipery: you could try running the server in a VM
#1908 [19:50] <chipery> which is what?
#1909 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> a virtual machine
#1910 [19:50] <chipery> how can i get one?
#1911 [19:50] <chipery> other then paying for a vps
#1912 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> you have enough RAM to run one yourself; download a copy of VirtualBox
#1913 [19:50] <naturalviolence_> java is up to date but it gives me this error when I try to open it with java runtime:
#1914 [19:50] <naturalviolence_> The file '/home/naturalviolence/Downloads/minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable. If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run. For more details, read about the executable bit.
#1915 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> naturalviolence_: run this command
#1916 [19:51] <chipery> are you trying to edit minecraft.jar?
#1917 [19:51] <naturalviolence_> no
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#1919 [19:51] <naturalviolence_> just open it with java runtime
#1920 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> naturalviolence_: chmod u+s ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar
#1921 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> sorry
#1922 [19:51] <FireRat> Is there a way to power a dispenser with redstone from the bottom?
#1923 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> naturalviolence_: chmod u+x ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar
#1924 [19:51] <chipery> okay dope, downloading virtual box
#1925 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> FireRat: yes
#1926 [19:52] <FireRat> how?
#1927 [19:52] <chipery> just do what you normally would
#1928 [19:52] <naturalviolence_> DopeGhoti: that didn't do anything
#1929 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> fire Dispenser on a block; RS torch under the block
#1930 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> naturalviolence_: you'll get no answer, but now you chould be able to run the .jar
#1931 [19:53] <chipery> dope you a genius by chance? lol
#1932 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> chipery: subgenius, technically (:
#1933 [19:53] <naturalviolence_> success !!
#1934 [19:53] <chipery> lol
#1935 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> naturalviolence_: that'll be $8 (:
#1936 [19:53] <naturalviolence_> DopeGhoti: thank you
#1937 [19:53] <FireRat> I put the torch under ran wire to a button. The dispenser fired once when i placed the torch and will not fire again
#1938 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> happy to help
#1939 [19:54] <naturalviolence_> *puts on sunglasses*
#1940 [19:54] <naturalviolence_> I'll be back
#1941 [19:54] <VoxelHead> Bye naturalviolence_
#1942 [19:54] <chipery> installing virtualbox dope
#1943 [19:54] <chipery> what exactly does it do?
#1944 [19:55] <chipery> is it similar to a vps?
#1945 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> chipery: it encapsulates a virtual machine, on which you will install an OS (I reccomend Linux), in which you will run the Minecraft server
#1946 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> eeeeh, sort of.
#1947 [19:55] <chipery> hmm
#1948 [19:55] <chipery> OS?
#1949 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> think of it as a kind of "VPS application"
#1950 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> Operating System
#1951 [19:55] <chipery> I have windows >.<
#1952 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but to install Windows on the VM, you'll need (to pay for) another license
#1953 [19:56] <chipery> so i don't meet your recommendations :(
#1954 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Linux is free
#1955 [19:56] <ryan0951> can i make a server on a non premium acc
#1956 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> you can install a Linux VM on VirtualBox running in Windows (:
#1957 [19:56] <chipery> oh nice
#1958 [19:56] <chipery> :D
#1959 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> ryan0951: servers aren't tied to accounts
#1960 [19:56] <VoxelHead> :)
#1961 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> only clinets
#1962 [19:56] <ryan0951> well i seem not able to get onto my server its timed out'
#1963 [19:58] <ryan0951> it says server has timed out everytime i try to join it
#1964 [19:59] <chipery> are you port forwarded?
#1965 [19:59] <chipery> ryan0951 are you portforwarded?
#1966 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> chipery: what is its IP?
#1967 [19:59] <ryan0951> yah i think i did it right
#1968 [20:00] <chipery> do to
#1969 [20:00] <chipery> go to
#1970 [20:00] <chipery> canyouseeme.org
#1971 [20:00] <chipery> and type in the port you used for your server
#1972 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> ryan0951: what is your Minecraft account name?
#1973 [20:00] <chipery> and if you get success you port forwarded right
#1974 [20:01] <chipery> dope
#1975 [20:01] <ryan0951> 76.94.113.198
#1976 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> !check 76.94.113.198
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#1978 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> ryan0951: server's either down or not forwarded.
#1979 [20:02] <ryan0951> Error: I could not see your service on 76.94.113.198 on port (25565) Reason: Connection timed out
#1980 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> ryan0951: server's either down or not forwarded properly.
#1981 [20:02] <FireRat> Anyone good at redstone can come on my server and help me set up something? I'm at a loss...
#1982 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> FireRat: I can try to advise.
#1983 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> FireRat - With?
#1984 [20:03] <chipery> dope
#1985 [20:03] <FireRat> I have a tower I put dispensers around the base of the tower, i want when i push a button for them to shoot arrows
#1986 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> chip
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#1988 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Sounds easy enough
#1989 [20:03] <FireRat> i have rs torches under dispensers and wire going to a button with a rs torch on the back of it
#1990 [20:03] <FireRat> but they wont fire
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#1992 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Dispensers only fire once when they receive a off->on signal
#1993 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> at all? sounds like you need to rethink the wiring so that the button actually pulses the circuit
#1994 [20:04] <JonathanS> who was the guy that offered me hosting?
#1995 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> If you want them to continuously fire, you'll need to look into clocks
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#1997 [20:04] <FireRat> i dont i just want them to fire once per push of the button
#1998 [20:04] <chipery> dope thanks man, im making the VM now
#1999 [20:05] <chipery> hope it works? :o
#2000 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> chipery: good luck!
#2001 [20:05] <chipery> thanks
#2002 [20:05] <chipery> hey can you use no-ip.com ip'
#2003 [20:05] <chipery> ahg
#2004 [20:05] <chipery> can you use no-ip.com ip's to connect to a minecraft server?
#2005 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2006 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> (I recommend Ubuntu or Debian linux if you're just getting started with Linux in general)
#2007 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> chipery: yes
#2008 [20:05] <chipery> noice
#2009 [20:06] <chipery> because i don't personally want to give out my external ip
#2010 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Uh, the no-ip.com will resolve to your external IP
#2011 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> It's kinda how it works
#2012 [20:06] <chipery> well one sec
#2013 [20:06] <chipery> let me test
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#2015 [20:06] <AG_Scott> If you tell me blah.no-ip.org, I can get your IP by doing dig blah.no-ip.org
#2016 [20:07] <chipery> oh
#2017 [20:07] <chipery> :o well then
#2018 [20:07] <AG_Scott> Unless it's static (and most ISP's will change it on demand), there's not much of a risk.
#2019 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> all a domain is, is an alias for a host
#2020 [20:07] <chipery> guess it doesn't matter then does it
#2021 [20:07] <AG_Scott> Just get a good firewall.
#2022 [20:07] <chipery> well mine runs out in 3 days
#2023 [20:07] <ryan0951> i wonder if i portforwarded right
#2024 [20:07] <chipery> cool for me? :D
#2025 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> I can tell you what IP you're connecting to IRC from right now.
#2026 [20:07] <AG_Scott> Got a router?
#2027 [20:07] <chipery> canyouseeme.org
#2028 [20:07] <chipery> and type in the port you used
#2029 [20:07] <AG_Scott> * [chipery] (Mibbit@208-100-169-122.bendbroadband.com):
#2030 [20:07] <AG_Scott> lol
#2031 [20:07] <chipery> well :o
#2032 [20:08] <chipery> yes that is my ip
#2033 [20:08] <chipery> :o
#2034 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> ryan0951 - What is your minecraft account name?
#2035 [20:08] * mib_vhlaeq [mib_vhlaeq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2036 [20:08] <AG_Scott> Do you have a router?
#2037 [20:08] <VoxelHead> blimey
#2038 [20:08] <ryan0951> it says port has timed out
#2039 [20:08] <ryan0951> yes
#2040 [20:08] <mib_vhlaeq> hey guys im back...
#2041 [20:08] <mib_vhlaeq> It worked!
#2042 [20:08] <mib_vhlaeq> ty so very much
#2043 [20:09] <chipery> amg dope
#2044 [20:09] <chipery> :o
#2045 [20:09] <chipery> it's starting
#2046 [20:09] <chipery> :o
#2047 [20:09] <VoxelHead> Well slap my ass and call me VoxelHead.
#2048 [20:09] <kaws> so, nobody with any ideas re: water not coming in from the sides/dirt not turning to grass on a classic server?
#2049 [20:09] <kaws> map is a standard size.
#2050 [20:09] <chipery> *slap* VoxelHead
#2051 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Classic doesn't do that
#2052 [20:09] <kaws> why not
#2053 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Blocks are blocks, there's no dirt->grass
#2054 [20:09] <kaws> it always fucking used to
#2055 [20:09] <VoxelHead> mmm mib_vhlaeq
#2056 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> No, it hasn't
#2057 [20:09] <kaws> pre-beta it did
#2058 [20:10] <chipery> hey dope
#2059 [20:10] <chipery> i got an error?
#2060 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> chipery: yo
#2061 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps you were on a modded classic server
#2062 [20:10] <kaws> ok
#2063 [20:10] <VoxelHead> Bye Barrycarlyon.
#2064 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Vanilla classic doesn't do that
#2065 [20:10] <kaws> so i need to work out how to get a modded server then.
#2066 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> chipery: I don't know; do you?
#2067 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> kaws mods
#2068 [20:10] <chipery> fatal: No bootable medium found
#2069 [20:10] <VoxelHead> kaws: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2070 [20:10] <VoxelHead> kaws: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/gentle-mod-install-tut Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2071 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft wiki has tons of listings for classic modded servers
#2072 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> chipery: right. You need to install an operating system on the cvirtual compuer
#2073 [20:10] <chipery> how? :o
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#2075 [20:11] <kaws> also apparently i'm not authorised to read that link
#2076 [20:11] <kaws> even though i'm logged in on mc-forums
#2077 [20:11] <chipery> it says OS type: Ubuntu
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#2079 [20:11] <HK6> Hey, me again.
#2080 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> chipery: yes, but you need to get the Ubuntu install CD (www.ubuntu.com) and actually install it on the VM
#2081 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> HK6: hi, Scott
#2082 [20:12] <HK6> Hello.
#2083 [20:12] <chipery> oh i literally need the physical CD?
#2084 [20:12] <HK6> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=268088
#2085 [20:12] <HK6> For those that do not remember me. :P
#2086 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> chipery: an ISO image will do, which you can download from ubuntu.com
#2087 [20:12] <chipery> mk
#2088 [20:12] <chipery> :o
#2089 [20:12] <VoxelHead> Deary me.
#2090 [20:14] <kaws> ok, from a bit of quick googling it seems that mcsharp will do what i want
#2091 [20:17] * luckz slaps VoxelHead's ass and calls him VoxelHead :o
#2091 [20:17] <VoxelHead> ow! my hand!
#2092 [20:17] <luckz> (is that PG13 now)
#2093 [20:19] <chipery> DopeGhoti: thanks for helping me, i hope this works but it's a long download for ubuntu, so ill be back (dont leave! :D)
#2094 [20:20] <HK6> Anybody have any ideas for me?
#2095 [20:23] <aetherian> quick dope
#2096 [20:23] <aetherian> hide :o
#2097 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> well, I am going home soon (:
#2098 [20:25] <aetherian> HK6: you running vanilla?
#2099 [20:25] <HK6> Yes sir.
#2100 [20:26] <kaws> could someone do me a favour and join my classic server to make sure guests can't build?
#2101 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> I'd love to, but I'm at work.
#2102 [20:26] <HK6> I will try it out for you.
#2103 [20:27] <HK6> IP?
#2104 [20:27] <kaws> one sec
#2105 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> unknown host: one\ sec
#2106 [20:28] <kaws> ok first of all try this
#2107 [20:28] <kaws> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?ip=zephism.sytes.net&port=2345
#2108 [20:28] <kaws> and if that doesn't work, i'll give you the normal play.jsp
#2109 [20:30] <HK6> You crashed my Minecraft. D:
#2110 [20:30] <chipery> well i guess thanks dope for helping me
#2111 [20:30] <chipery> it still has 30mins left
#2112 [20:30] <kaws> HK6 really :<
#2113 [20:30] <chipery> so hopefully i will be able to install iot
#2114 [20:30] <kaws> apparently "unhandled message id 2"
#2115 [20:30] <kaws> are you logged in on minecraft.net? verifynames is set to true
#2116 [20:30] <HK6> Yes I am.
#2117 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Um, people won't be able to connect via the ip= address if verify names is set to true
#2118 [20:30] <HK6> Nope crashed again.
#2119 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> That's just how classic is set up, unfortunately.
#2120 [20:31] <VoxelHead> Mmm dduchaine.
#2121 [20:31] <kaws> hm
#2122 [20:31] <kaws> so i'm stuck with a server address that changes all the time? :<
#2123 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't
#2124 [20:32] <kaws> it appears to
#2125 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't.
#2126 [20:32] <kaws> it appears to
#2127 [20:32] * GreyVulpine sighs
#2127 [20:32] <kaws> sigh all you want, it's changed before
#2128 [20:32] <kaws> what would cause it? different server software? different ip?
#2129 [20:32] <kaws> anyhow, HK6
#2130 [20:32] <kaws> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=e685c7ee3fdf0e202b0bbcba7eb4d0eb
#2131 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> kaws: You're running nonstandard software
#2132 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Different server software
#2133 [20:33] <kaws> normal play.jsp
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#2135 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> rr, dduchaine
#2136 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> re rather
#2137 [20:34] <kaws> hmmm
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#2139 [20:36] <Slakker> Hey.. Other than just knowing it would be 'sometime this week'.. do yall have any extra info on when 1.5 is coming?
#2140 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> "when it's done"; even "sometime this week" is not set in stong
#2141 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> er, stone
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#2144 [20:45] <chipery> 9 minutes :(
#2145 [20:47] <kaws> could someone help me out by trying to connect to my server? http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=e685c7ee3fdf0e202b0bbcba7eb4d0eb
#2146 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Getting nothing on that URL
#2147 [20:52] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
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#2150 [20:52] <kaws> that's weird, considering i'm connected by that very url :P
#2151 [20:53] <kaws> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=e685c7ee3fdf0e202b0bbcba7eb4d0eb
#2152 [20:53] <kaws> is that the same
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#2155 [21:07] <ScribbleJR> experiencing some major lag in minecraft, worlds load fine but when i start to play its really laggy moving around and looking around
#2156 [21:07] <ScribbleJR> ive tried changing graphiocs to fast
#2157 [21:07] <ScribbleJR> turning off the new smooth lighting
#2158 [21:07] <ScribbleJR> and made distance tiny
#2159 [21:08] <ScribbleJR> but stilll lags
#2160 [21:08] <ScribbleJR> any help?
#2161 [21:08] <Slakker> what other apps are running? Fresh reboot and still?
#2162 [21:09] <ScribbleJR> i havent rebooted, but everything else is working fine
#2163 [21:09] <ScribbleJR> task manager says im using about 50% tho
#2164 [21:10] <[L]> That sounds generic
#2165 [21:10] <[L]> Doesn't first time load do that?
#2166 [21:10] <Slakker> something is bogging you down
#2167 [21:10] <ScribbleJR> ah there we go had to stop some proccesses
#2168 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> we'll bill you. (:
#2169 [21:11] <ScribbleJR> ok :)
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#2171 [21:19] <chipery> Dope!
#2172 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> no need to get insulting
#2173 [21:20] <chipery> i downloaded the wrogn version of ubnutu(which took forever to download), now i have to download the right version(which is taking forver to install)
#2174 [21:20] <chipery> but thanks for helping, i think it'll work this timem
#2175 [21:20] <chipery> time**
#2176 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq121/Z50R/DSCN1368.jpg
#2177 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Ouch.
#2178 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: other than "a disassambled engine", what am I looking at?
#2179 [21:24] <VoxelHead> a website
#2180 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> thanks, VoxelHead
#2181 [21:24] <VoxelHead> any time
#2182 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> odddly accurate.
#2183 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> See piston
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#2186 [21:42] * VoxelHead is away: *squeeky*
#2186 [21:44] <bread> oh no come back vox!
#2187 [21:49] <xales> bread: :O
#2188 [21:49] <bread> me :O
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#2190 [21:52] <TheNytangel> with bukkit, do i NEED essentialsprotect?
#2191 [21:52] <TheNytangel> essentials protect*
#2192 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> That's a question for #bukkit
#2193 [21:52] <TheNytangel> psh
#2194 [21:52] <TheNytangel> fine
#2195 [21:52] <bread> ヽ( ﾟヮ ｡)ノ
#2196 [21:52] <TheNytangel> be so supporty >.>
#2197 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> We are!
#2198 [21:53] <TheNytangel> :P
#2199 [21:53] <bread> :D
#2200 [21:54] <TheNytangel> yeah.. and then i have this plugin that i have NO idea what does it, but the plugin says that "TheNytangel has places stone at <coordinates>"
#2201 [21:54] <TheNytangel> except it does it for everyone
#2202 [21:54] <TheNytangel> and just stone
#2203 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> No idea what that plugin could be
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#2205 [21:57] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, they are about as supportive as you :)
#2206 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#2207 [21:58] <TheNytangel> its like everyone has me on their ignore list or something,..
#2208 [22:00] <TheNytangel> sometimes i think voxel makes plugins..
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#2210 [22:00] <TheNytangel> i like the planes mod :)
#2211 [22:01] <TheNytangel> i napalm striked 3 forests with the spitfire
#2212 [22:01] <TheNytangel> and then my wooden hotel
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#2214 [22:01] <TheNytangel> >.>
#2215 [22:01] <TheNytangel> didnt end so well, if you didnt know
#2216 [22:01] <TheNytangel> and i built 2 more hangars which took an extra hour
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#2219 [22:24] <TheNytangel> for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god
#2220 [22:24] <TheNytangel> just out of randomness, i had to say that :)
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#2222 [22:26] * VoxelHead is back
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#2223 [22:28] <TheNytangel> Voxel
#2224 [22:28] <ChaosTheory> so is there a list of safe mods?
#2225 [22:28] <TheNytangel> do you make plugins?
#2226 [22:29] <TheNytangel> safe as in...
#2227 [22:29] <TheNytangel> safe as in what?
#2228 [22:29] <ChaosTheory> wont steal my password lol
#2229 [22:29] <TheNytangel> -_-
#2230 [22:29] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2231 [22:29] <TheNytangel> make it a strong password like NoM91wqO
#2232 [22:29] <TheNytangel> or something
#2233 [22:29] <TheNytangel> VoxelHead, do you make plugins >:o
#2234 [22:29] <ChaosTheory> i need a retractable bridge
#2235 [22:29] <TheNytangel> LOL
#2236 [22:29] <TheNytangel> good luck with that
#2237 [22:29] <ChaosTheory> and a gate that slides down
#2238 [22:30] <TheNytangel> i have no list of mods that include that in my head
#2239 [22:30] <ChaosTheory> i tried with sand lmao it worked but looked retarded
#2240 [22:30] * VoxelHead is a bot
#2240 [22:30] <TheNytangel> yeah, you will put a bed under that and cut off someones head when they are sleeping.. not a good mod
#2241 [22:30] <TheNytangel> :P
#2242 [22:31] <ChaosTheory> so yea lol
#2243 [22:31] <TheNytangel> well
#2244 [22:31] <TheNytangel> either search hard or make it yourself
#2245 [22:31] <ChaosTheory> lol
#2246 [22:31] <ChaosTheory> I found one but idk if its safe
#2247 [22:31] <TheNytangel> link meh
#2248 [22:32] <TheNytangel> does it take that long to get a link..?
#2249 [22:33] <ChaosTheory> http://flattr.com/thing/161089/RetractableBridge-Minecraft-server-plugin
#2250 [22:33] <ChaosTheory> lol
#2251 [22:33] <ChaosTheory> i had to find it again sorry
#2252 [22:33] <TheNytangel> flatter.. sounds like your mom
#2253 [22:33] <TheNytangel> lol jk
#2254 [22:33] <ChaosTheory> haha
#2255 [22:34] <TheNytangel> hold on a minute
#2256 [22:34] <ChaosTheory> np
#2257 [22:34] <ChaosTheory> i also have no clue how to install and was looking for a safe mod manager
#2258 [22:34] <TheNytangel> lets see if my server hoster has it on their long list of bukkit plugins..
#2259 [22:34] <TheNytangel> installing is easy
#2260 [22:34] <TheNytangel> its just like installing a client mod with the server
#2261 [22:34] <TheNytangel> and a wee bit harder
#2262 [22:35] <ChaosTheory> yea im running a private server never used mods
#2263 [22:35] <TheNytangel> ah
#2264 [22:35] <TheNytangel> yes
#2265 [22:35] <TheNytangel> retractable bridge mod :)
#2266 [22:35] <ChaosTheory> btw i swear im really this dumb
#2267 [22:35] <TheNytangel> 1.2.0
#2268 [22:35] <TheNytangel> also, they have an elevator mod :D
#2269 [22:35] <ChaosTheory> thats awesome
#2270 [22:36] <TheNytangel> and CommandSigns :D
#2271 [22:36] <TheNytangel> and a bunch of chest protect plugins :D
#2272 [22:36] <TheNytangel> lol
#2273 [22:36] <ChaosTheory> how would i get a plugin manager like you have?
#2274 [22:36] <TheNytangel> its on the server hoster's control panel
#2275 [22:36] <TheNytangel> ill link a bunch of bukkit mods they have
#2276 [22:37] <TheNytangel> http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/minecraft/80681-bukkit-plugin-list
#2277 [22:37] <ChaosTheory> sweet
#2278 [22:37] <VoxelHead> S to the W E E E E E E E T
#2279 [22:37] <TheNytangel> retractablebridge is under the Misc. Addons
#2280 [22:37] <TheNytangel> well
#2281 [22:37] <TheNytangel> it looks like they need to update their list
#2282 [22:37] <TheNytangel> i would type them out for you but theres SOOOO MANY
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#2284 [22:38] <ChaosTheory> its ok
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#2286 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> I think ChaosTheory is talking about something like modloader for SSP
#2287 [22:39] <ChaosTheory> yea are something like the mod loaders for fallout new vegas
#2288 [22:39] <ChaosTheory> etc
#2289 [22:39] <TheNytangel> well theres a modloader
#2290 [22:40] <TheNytangel> but
#2291 [22:40] <TheNytangel> it just helps conflicts with other mods or something
#2292 [22:40] <TheNytangel> :P
#2293 [22:40] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=80246
#2294 [22:40] <TheNytangel> A mod, kind of like a mod manager, that stops conflicts with mods that alter rendering, recipes, add entities, gui, smeltables or fuel.
#2295 [22:41] <xales> err, modloader isn't a mod manager
#2296 [22:41] <TheNytangel> i just copied and pasted the first sentence
#2297 [22:41] <ChaosTheory> i was looking for one that wouldnt conflict with updates notch does lol
#2298 [22:41] <xales> ChaosTheory: such a thing would not exist
#2299 [22:41] <ChaosTheory> lol
#2300 [22:42] <xales> for the simple reason that it _can't_ exist
#2301 [22:42] <ChaosTheory> thats what i was thinking just double checking
#2302 [22:42] <ChaosTheory> ok one more question
#2303 [22:42] <TheNytangel> o-m-g
#2304 [22:42] <ChaosTheory> trying to make a retractable moat
#2305 [22:42] <TheNytangel> lmfao
#2306 [22:42] <ChaosTheory> is it possible?
#2307 [22:42] <TheNytangel> whats with all the retractable stuff
#2308 [22:42] <TheNytangel> define retractable
#2309 [22:43] <ChaosTheory> water comes water goes
#2310 [22:43] <TheNytangel> for multiplayer?
#2311 [22:43] <ChaosTheory> yes
#2312 [22:43] <TheNytangel> one of risugami's mods is the floodgate mod
#2313 [22:43] <ChaosTheory> catch is i want to try and do it unmodded
#2314 [22:43] <TheNytangel> for singleplayer
#2315 [22:43] <TheNytangel> haha
#2316 [22:43] <TheNytangel> try dirt and shovel
#2317 [22:44] <ChaosTheory> haha
#2318 [22:44] <ChaosTheory> so thats a no lol
#2319 [22:44] <TheNytangel> none come to mind
#2320 [22:44] <ChaosTheory> i was trying to do it with levers but didnt work so well
#2321 [22:44] <TheNytangel> dur
#2322 [22:44] <TheNytangel> a door cant make water go
#2323 [22:45] <TheNytangel> like minecarts
#2324 [22:45] <ChaosTheory> i hadnt tried the door
#2325 [22:45] <TheNytangel> oh
#2326 [22:45] <TheNytangel> dont, i dont think it will work
#2327 [22:45] <ChaosTheory> i was refering to making water change direction
#2328 [22:45] <TheNytangel> ha
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#2330 [22:45] <TheNytangel> you have high expectations for this game
#2331 [22:45] <TheNytangel> can you do that in real life with a lever?
#2332 [22:45] <ChaosTheory> yes
#2333 [22:46] <TheNytangel> except with a powerful fan
#2334 [22:46] <ChaosTheory> its called a sink
#2335 [22:46] <TheNytangel> they dont have sinks in minecraft
#2336 [22:46] <TheNytangel> think of the items in minecraft
#2337 [22:46] <ChaosTheory> haha
#2338 [22:46] <TheNytangel> what if we had those in real life
#2339 [22:46] <TheNytangel> could you then?
#2340 [22:46] <VoxelHead> Take me to the meat.
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#2342 [22:46] * TheNytangel gives VoxelHead a porkchop
#2342 [22:46] <ChaosTheory> well you should be able to with a lever lol
#2343 [22:46] <VoxelHead> Just what i've always wanted =]
#2344 [22:46] <TheNytangel> :)
#2345 [22:46] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2346 [22:46] <TheNytangel> ChaosTheory, again
#2347 [22:46] <TheNytangel> high expectaions
#2348 [22:46] <ChaosTheory> lol
#2349 [22:47] <TheNytangel> expectations
#2350 [22:47] <TheNytangel> i got my server hosted for $40 for 3 months for 8 players
#2351 [22:47] * xales sets VoxelHead on fire
#2351 [22:47] <VoxelHead> *informs the world 'It's time to burn'*
#2352 [22:47] <TheNytangel> you can choose vanilla, canary (hmod), bukkit..
#2353 [22:47] <ChaosTheory> thats alot xd
#2354 [22:47] <TheNytangel> 1 more, brb
#2355 [22:47] <VoxelHead> Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.
#2356 [22:47] <ChaosTheory> I would host my server from home
#2357 [22:48] <TheNytangel> thats for noobs
#2358 [22:48] <TheNytangel> get someone to do it for you :P
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#2360 [22:48] <ChaosTheory> why i work for a isp provider
#2361 [22:48] <raisin> hey
#2362 [22:48] <TheNytangel> well
#2363 [22:48] <TheNytangel> then learn java programming and make reversable water
#2364 [22:48] <ChaosTheory> haha
#2365 [22:48] <xales> ChaosTheory: So? Residential connections are all garbage :P
#2366 [22:48] <ChaosTheory> i like telling people to unplug it for 30 seconds
#2367 [22:49] <raisin> i have a huge area to clear out, does any body know of a hax for linux that can do this?
#2368 [22:49] <ChaosTheory> and playing minecraft while doing it
#2369 [22:49] <TheNytangel> never mind. just vanilla, canary, and bukkit. with a HELL of a lot of mods for each
#2370 [22:49] <TheNytangel> except vanilla
#2371 [22:49] <TheNytangel> let me check vanilla's mods
#2372 [22:49] <xales> raisin: You can use a mod like WorldEdit, or a map editor like MCEdit
#2373 [22:49] <raisin> thanks
#2374 [22:49] <ChaosTheory> whats the difference on mods?
#2375 [22:49] <TheNytangel> the names
#2376 [22:49] <TheNytangel> dur
#2377 [22:50] <ChaosTheory> well obviously lmao
#2378 [22:50] <TheNytangel> yes
#2379 [22:50] <TheNytangel> vanilla has Runecraft
#2380 [22:50] <TheNytangel> thats it
#2381 [22:50] <TheNytangel> :P
#2382 [22:50] <ChaosTheory> but like our any drag and drop?
#2383 [22:50] <TheNytangel> raisin: try a gold pick and shovel
#2384 [22:50] <TheNytangel> gtg bye
#2385 [22:50] <ChaosTheory> bye
#2386 [22:51] <ChaosTheory> so anyone know of good mods that are drag and drop?
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#2388 [22:54] <xorcon> I'm trying to play the free beta for minecraft. i downloaded it and when i try to sign in in the launcher it says my account isnt premium. What do i do
#2389 [22:55] <ChaosTheory> there isnt a free beta best i understand
#2390 [22:55] <xorcon> really?
#2391 [22:55] <ChaosTheory> hey btw is and expert minecrafters on
#2392 [22:55] <ChaosTheory> to the best of my understanding
#2393 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Define "expert"
#2394 [22:56] <ChaosTheory> well someone that knows about inv edit and mods like it
#2395 [22:56] <xorcon> Well thanks for telling me that. you probably saved me a lot of frustration lol
#2396 [22:56] <ChaosTheory> xbr
#2397 [22:56] <ChaosTheory> xor
#2398 [22:56] <ChaosTheory> you can play classic
#2399 [22:56] <ChaosTheory> should say free on the site
#2400 [22:56] <xorcon> Can i play that without unlimited everything?
#2401 [22:56] <xorcon> thats how it starts me off
#2402 [22:56] <ChaosTheory> uh lol
#2403 [22:56] <ChaosTheory> no
#2404 [22:57] <xorcon> -______-
#2405 [22:57] <VoxelHead> =D
#2406 [22:57] <xorcon> sigh. well thanks for the help. im off to cry myself to sleep
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#2408 [22:58] <ChaosTheory> damn
#2409 [22:58] <ChaosTheory> well anyones i was thinking of making a really long bridge
#2410 [22:58] <ChaosTheory> is there a program that will let me just drop it on my world?
#2411 [22:59] <ChaosTheory> o and a cartograper that works lol
#2412 [22:59] <ChaosTheory> i tried the new on and failed epic
#2413 [23:01] <ChaosTheory> lol
#2414 [23:02] <ChaosTheory> so im guessing thats a nope lol
#2415 [23:07] <raisin> does the single player commands mod work in linux?
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