#1 [00:00] <xales> can you paste that number here?
#2 [00:00] <popc0rn> 6594540
#3 [00:00] <xales> okay, so it is getting through..hmm
#4 [00:00] <xales> firewall maybe?
#5 [00:00] <popc0rn> I don't have a firewall.
#6 [00:01] <popc0rn> Unless theres specific ports I should open with my router?
#7 [00:01] <xales> no, there shouldn't be
#8 [00:01] <xales> hmm
#9 [00:01] <popc0rn> Didn't think so.
#10 [00:01] <xales> try making a new user account on your computer, see if it works under that
#11 [00:01] <popc0rn> Wanna try uploading your .minecraft folder and seeing if tht works?
#12 [00:02] <xales> no, that would be illegal
#13 [00:03] <popc0rn> really?
#14 [00:03] <popc0rn> hmm
#15 [00:03] <xales> yes
#16 [00:03] <AG_Scott> Copyright infringement.
#17 [00:03] <xales> ??>> SpaceManiac smp/servers
#18 [00:03] <popc0rn> hm?
#19 [00:03] <xales> nothing
#20 [00:03] <xales> invoking a bot command
#21 [00:03] <popc0rn> Oh
#22 [00:03] <xales> ??> popc0rn distribution
#23 [00:03] <VoxelHead> popc0rn: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#24 [00:03] <VoxelHead> popc0rn: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#25 [00:03] <xales> hmm
#26 [00:04] <xales> wrong FAQ entry
#27 [00:04] <xales> nevermind me
#28 [00:04] <xales> :|
#29 [00:04] <popc0rn> It's not even letting me connect to offline.
#30 [00:04] <xales> it's not supposed to
#31 [00:04] <xales> you have to login once to play offline
#32 [00:04] <xales> you..did buy it, correct?
#33 [00:04] <popc0rn> Yes.
#34 [00:05] <xales> you didn't try to play it before buying it?
#35 [00:05] <popc0rn> It worked once on my brother's little mac I believe.
#36 [00:05] <popc0rn> No, I figured you had to buy it to play it..
#37 [00:06] <xales> okay, try this then
#38 [00:06] <xales> go to run (win+r), cmd, type 'ping login.minecraft.net' -> first line will be "Pinging login.minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]"
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#40 [00:06] <xales> what is the "[xx.xx.xx.xx]" part
#41 [00:07] <Razorflame> I've been working on a tunnel system down the side of the face of the cliff I pointed out in my topic on the official forums earlier, but it is taking quite a while =D
#42 [00:07] <popc0rn> 50.17.234.159
#43 [00:07] <Razorflame> Too bad my base starts up so high on the mountains
#44 [00:08] <Razorflame> That means I gotta go from like 115 elevation all the way down :o
#45 [00:08] <xales> popc0rn: that's correct...you are sure the _year_ on your computer is correct, right?
#46 [00:08] <popc0rn> ...it's 2011 right?
#47 [00:08] <xales> I hope so
#48 [00:09] <AG_Scott> what?
#49 [00:09] <AG_Scott> It's 1611 :(
#50 [00:09] <xales> try a new user account on your computer, see if it works there
#51 [00:09] <xales> AG_Scott: D:
#52 [00:09] <oldtopman> AG_Scott: Stop smoking pot. Its 1984
#53 [00:09] <Creeper> xales
#54 [00:09] <Creeper> what happened to derpbot?
#55 [00:09] <Creeper> or whatever it was named
#56 [00:09] <xales> it's been gone for...a long time now
#57 [00:10] <Creeper> i haven't been here for... a long time now
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#59 [00:10] <oldtopman> Bye!
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#61 [00:10] * AG_Scott cries.
#61 [00:11] <AG_Scott> My lover has went to sleep. Stupid exams D:
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#67 [00:25] <VoxelHead> bye razorflame
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#72 [00:52] <Razorflame> I'm getting ready to go search for iron ore in a natural cave now
#73 [00:53] <lemon-rev> good luck, and dont die
#74 [00:53] <Razorflame> Thanks
#75 [00:53] <lemon-rev> anytime
#76 [00:53] * lemon-rev jumps on peoples heads to see if someones active :P
#76 [00:53] <Razorflame> I'll need to be watchful for them ninja creepers XD
#77 [00:53] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Heyyy stop jumping on my head
#78 [00:53] <lemon-rev> well you just have to make sure you got plenty of room to jump backwards
#79 [00:54] <Razorflame> as soon as that hiss is heard XD
#80 [00:54] <lemon-rev> whitetiger1kitkit i love my jumping, why do i need to stop "{
#81 [00:54] <lemon-rev> :P
#82 [00:54] <lemon-rev> yea your a gona
#83 [00:54] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ...cause it hurts and pain is being rushed through my body like a spiders venom would?
#84 [00:54] <lemon-rev> oh
#85 [00:55] * lemon-rev jumps off whitetiger1kitkit
#85 [00:55] <Whitetiger1kitkit> thank you..
#86 [00:55] <lemon-rev> sorry bout that
#87 [00:55] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Now I got a question about minecraft if you don't mind me asking
#88 [00:55] <lemon-rev> please do
#89 [00:56] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I'm currently thinking about buying minecraft beta... now if I buy it... do I get updates from it? or do I have to buy the updates??
#90 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> You get all updates and bug fixes for free, including the final release when it comes out later this year
#91 [00:56] <lemon-rev> lol no you get all updates and everything free once you buy it
#92 [00:56] <lemon-rev> thanks greyvupine you type way faster than i this afternoon
#93 [00:56] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Oh ok thank you... now I gotta wipe my tear from my eyes... got shot with a nerf gun
#94 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> No problem.
#95 [00:57] <lemon-rev> ouch
#96 [00:57] <lemon-rev> never been hurt by nerf's i dont know how quick they run :P
#97 [00:57] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Yeah.. stupid brother came outta no where... shot my computer screen and bounced off of it and hit my eyeball
#98 [00:57] <lemon-rev> ouch, well i think that worrents a black eye from a fist
#99 [00:58] <Whitetiger1kitkit> take the black eye... my eye would be shut or at lest somewhat open... I'm crying ever since I got shot in th eye
#100 [00:58] <Whitetiger1kitkit> hard to see and type..
#101 [00:59] <lemon-rev> yea well i can imagine the pain sine i tend to poke eye out with hands ocasionally
#102 [00:59] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ...that's interesting?? no wrong??... idk
#103 [01:00] <lemon-rev> no wrong ?? < not sure about that, but yea its interesting since hand someones flings back to face and acidently poke eye
#104 [01:01] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ... hmm... never happen to me before... minding my own... outta no where my hand comes out and pokes a eyeout...
#105 [01:02] <lemon-rev> lol
#106 [01:02] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Oh well... looking at these videos of minecraft makes me wanna play
#107 [01:02] <lemon-rev> well its kinda like wanta rub my eye caus its saw and like hits eye instead
#108 [01:02] <lemon-rev> yea lots of mc :)
#109 [01:05] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ZzzzZzz
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#111 [01:06] <aetherian> night, Whitetiger1kitkit
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#113 [01:19] <aetherian> 'ello, viilain.
#114 [01:19] <Viil> hello!
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#116 [01:28] <Viil> Hey, aetherian, can you help me port forward?
#117 [01:28] <aetherian> whatever.
#118 [01:28] <aetherian> You're on windows?
#119 [01:28] <Viil> Yeah.
#120 [01:29] <aetherian> type "windows key + r"
#121 [01:29] <aetherian> and type in cmd, and run it.
#122 [01:29] <Viil> ipconfig?
#123 [01:29] <aetherian> mmyes.
#124 [01:29] <Viil> done.
#125 [01:29] <aetherian> Find the default gateway.
#126 [01:30] <Viil> mmmmmmk.
#127 [01:30] <aetherian> now open whatever that either IP or url looking thing in your favorite web browser
#128 [01:30] <aetherian> (which I pray is not internet explorer)
#129 [01:30] <Viil> It is D:
#130 [01:30] <Viil> no
#131 [01:30] <Viil> jk
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#133 [01:31] <Viil> Alright
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#135 [01:31] <aetherian> you see an actual page, I hope
#136 [01:32] <Viil> I do.
#137 [01:32] <aetherian> I hope you have the password to your router
#138 [01:32] <Viil> uh, I think I remember it
#139 [01:33] <aetherian> Good good.
#140 [01:33] <aetherian> Now, I do not claim to know what this page looks like for you.
#141 [01:33] * Viil hopes..
#141 [01:33] <Viil> I understand
#142 [01:33] <aetherian> so ah
#143 [01:33] <aetherian> either look around, to see if you can port forward, or...
#144 [01:33] <aetherian> lesee
#145 [01:34] <aetherian> what model is it?
#146 [01:34] <Viil> I have a belkin.
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#148 [01:35] <aetherian> which belkin.
#149 [01:35] <Razorflame> Found a good cave :)
#150 [01:35] <Razorflame> Cleared out the first floor
#151 [01:35] <Viil> Let's see..
#152 [01:35] <Razorflame> discovered a secret passage down anohter
#153 [01:35] <Razorflame> 4 Skellies killed so far :)
#154 [01:35] <Razorflame> 47 Coal gathered :)
#155 [01:36] <Viil> crap, let me get the box
#156 [01:37] <Viil> It was the N300 I believe
#157 [01:37] <aetherian> uh
#158 [01:37] <aetherian> does it say anything on the web page?
#159 [01:37] <aetherian> wait wait
#160 [01:38] <aetherian> I'm pulling it up
#161 [01:38] <Viil> okay
#162 [01:38] <aetherian> darn
#163 [01:38] <aetherian> anyway, is there anywhere you can go to edit/configure/view the home network?
#164 [01:39] <Viil> let's see..
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#166 [01:40] <Viil> There's a lot of different things to edit, one sec
#167 [01:40] <aetherian> think firewall settings
#168 [01:41] <Viil> http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/img/2006/belkinn1/04.jpg that's what it looks like DD:
#169 [01:42] <aetherian> http://bit.ly/ev4h5H
#170 [01:42] <aetherian> just follow that
#171 [01:42] <Viil> okay
#172 [01:42] <aetherian> rather than me being the middle man
#173 [01:42] <aetherian> it's TCP on port 25565
#174 [01:42] <aetherian> the port can be different, but 25565 is the default
#175 [01:44] <Viil> ok
#176 [01:44] <aetherian> lovely
#177 [01:44] <aetherian> now save it all
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#179 [01:45] <aetherian> long time no see, Szernex
#180 [01:45] <Viil> aetherian, I have a question
#181 [01:45] <aetherian> What now.
#182 [01:46] <Viil> was the link you gave me supposed to be a walkthrough? cuz it was just a picture. .__.
#183 [01:46] <aetherian> what?
#184 [01:46] <Viil> what what?
#185 [01:46] <aetherian> holy
#186 [01:46] <aetherian> it musta somehow apparated into my clipboard
#187 [01:46] <Viil> yeah
#188 [01:46] <aetherian> I had a walkthrough
#189 [01:46] <Viil> I'll just find onew
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#191 [01:47] <codyholla120> HEY
#192 [01:47] <aetherian> http://bit.ly/i2OUPF
#193 [01:47] <aetherian> viil
#194 [01:47] <VoxelHead> Viiiiiiil.
#195 [01:47] <Viil> whaaata
#196 [01:47] <Viil> I got itttt
#197 [01:47] <codyholla120> someone please give me a fd.class file
#198 [01:47] <aetherian> codyholla120: no.
#199 [01:47] <codyholla120> plz
#200 [01:48] <aetherian> no.
#201 [01:48] <aetherian> and again, no.
#202 [01:48] <codyholla120> WHY?
#203 [01:48] <aetherian> Because I have the right to say no.
#204 [01:48] <codyholla120> O RLY?
#205 [01:48] <aetherian> And what exactly do you need an fd.class file for, hmmmmm?
#206 [01:48] <_303> = wolves
#207 [01:48] <codyholla120> minecraft of couse
#208 [01:49] <codyholla120> wolves?
#209 [01:49] <aetherian> Well pity
#210 [01:49] <VoxelHead> Crap.
#211 [01:49] <VoxelHead> Well pity... Wity
#212 [01:49] <_303> fd = EntityWolf
#213 [01:49] <codyholla120> aetherian dood get a life
#214 [01:49] <aetherian> guess you'll have to just buy the game after all, cody
#215 [01:49] <codyholla120> ohhhh
#216 [01:49] <codyholla120> i friggin did
#217 [01:49] <aetherian> So they say.
#218 [01:49] <codyholla120> stup
#219 [01:49] <codyholla120> id
#220 [01:49] <codyholla120> is
#221 [01:49] <codyholla120> wh
#222 [01:49] <codyholla120> at
#223 [01:49] <codyholla120> yo
#224 [01:50] <codyholla120> u
#225 [01:50] <codyholla120> ar
#226 [01:50] <codyholla120> e
#227 [01:50] <VoxelHead> Arrrrharrrr.
#228 [01:50] <_303> line spam detection activate already
#229 [01:50] <aetherian> dammit, damn new server software
#230 [01:50] <aetherian> curses
#231 [01:50] <codyholla120> 303 plz man
#232 [01:50] <codyholla120> len me it
#233 [01:50] <aetherian> codyholla120: come ask in #mcchatter, I want to get some satisfaction out of this.
#234 [01:50] <_303> plz stp tlkn lk ths mks y lk rtrdd
#235 [01:50] <aetherian> :)
#236 [01:50] <VoxelHead> =D
#237 [01:51] <aetherian> :D
#238 [01:51] <codyholla120> #mcchatter isnt #minecrafthelp GET A LIFE AND A BRAIN
#239 [01:51] <aetherian> but ask in there anyway, monsieur.
#240 [01:51] <NotiCon> codyholla120: you should get a brain at least
#241 [01:51] <codyholla120> french.......hate e,
#242 [01:51] <aetherian> NotiCon: a case of "get a brain, morans"
#243 [01:52] <codyholla120> MOTI GET OUT O' HERE
#244 [01:52] <NotiCon> yup
#245 [01:52] <NotiCon> moti?
#246 [01:52] <NotiCon> who is that guy?
#247 [01:52] <codyholla120> NOTI
#248 [01:52] <aetherian> who knows
#249 [01:52] <codyholla120> ADGJHGJSHGJHG
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#251 [01:52] <codyholla120> SKGDJHGSJ
#252 [01:52] <VoxelHead> Blimey.
#253 [01:52] <NotiCon> codyholla120: i was here first you get out
#254 [01:52] <aetherian> codyholla120: ask in #mcchatter, I really want satisfaction here.
#255 [01:52] <codyholla120> SKY IS THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME AWAY FROM ****ING YOU UP
#256 [01:52] <NotiCon> sky?
#257 [01:52] <NotiCon> what does sky have to do with this?
#258 [01:52] <codyholla120> yes sky
#259 [01:52] <aetherian> haha
#260 [01:52] <aetherian> bowdlerization. nice.
#261 [01:53] <codyholla120> CUZ I LIVEZ IN DA SKY
#262 [01:53] <NotiCon> you live in a sky?
#263 [01:53] <NotiCon> poor fellow
#264 [01:53] <codyholla120> yeh
#265 [01:53] <codyholla120> AND ITS AWESOME
#266 [01:53] <aetherian> psst, gtfo.
#267 [01:53] <Viil> stfu, gtfo, n00b.
#268 [01:53] <codyholla120> NOTI YA R A ***
#269 [01:53] <aetherian> Viil: .-.
#270 [01:54] <_303> surprised you haven't been kicked yet
#271 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Stop with the inane caps
#272 [01:54] <NotiCon> i like it how you write *' words instead of writing the words
#273 [01:54] <aetherian> _303: no mods a- oh yay :D
#274 [01:54] <aetherian> NotiCon: I already noted that...
#275 [01:54] <codyholla120> all i want is a friggin fd.class file
#276 [01:54] <NotiCon> then make one?
#277 [01:54] <aetherian> bowdlerization at it's finest :3
#278 [01:55] <NotiCon> oh damnit
#279 [01:55] <codyholla120> sUP PPL
#280 [01:55] * xales kicked codyholla120 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Get out)
#281 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#282 [01:55] <NotiCon> showed up at school in the wrong room
#283 [01:55] <NotiCon> silly me
#284 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> I was going to do that
#285 [01:55] <NotiCon> better pack my stuff back then
#286 [01:55] <NotiCon> o/
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#288 [02:07] <aetherian> wow
#289 [02:08] <aetherian> never seen that one before
#290 [02:08] <aetherian> "failed to login: <?xml version="1.0"?>"
#291 [02:10] <LargePrime> hello i am having a problem with t flip flops. can you help?
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#300 [02:19] <Kealper[Mib]> stupid fucking network
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#313 [02:35] <LargePrime> has anyone built the wikis t flip flop?
#314 [02:35] <Kealper[Mib]> maybe....lemme check what it looks like
#315 [02:35] <LargePrime> the "a" one
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#317 [02:36] <Kealper[Mib]> no, i haven't i don't think
#318 [02:37] <Kealper> rawr?
#319 [02:37] <LargePrime> it does not seem to work
#320 [02:37] <xales> O_o
#321 [02:37] <Kealper> has it stopped blowing up long enough for me to think?
#322 [02:37] <xales> err
#323 [02:37] <xales> no idea
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#325 [02:37] <xales> last I heard it's borked for the moment
#326 [02:38] <mib_0olraz> is there a way to get single player commands to work on linux?
#327 [02:38] <xales> Mods aren't OS-dependant
#328 [02:39] <mib_0olraz> is there a map editor that one would know of that does not require single player commands?
#329 [02:39] <xales> none of them do
#330 [02:39] <xales> mcedit, for example, is a map editor
#331 [02:39] <mib_0olraz> ok, thanks!
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#337 [02:53] <Razorflame> I'm still exploring this cave
#338 [02:54] <Razorflame> It goes down quite a ways
#339 [02:54] <Razorflame> Got my first Iron ores :)
#340 [02:54] <xales> Razorflame: are you just here to record what you are doing? :|
#341 [02:54] <xales> Kealper: ._.
#342 [02:55] <Kealper> wut
#343 [02:55] <xales> Razorflame
#344 [02:55] <xales> :|
#345 [02:55] <AndrewPH> it's friday friday gotta get down on friday
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#349 [03:01] <NotiCon> AndrewPH: did you know this? http://i.imgur.com/6Ch8I.png
#350 [03:02] <AndrewPH> Bahaha, amazing.
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#355 [03:27] <cbreaker> Anyone know a good tutorial for installing plug ins for your server, before I wade through the barren wastelands of the internetz?
#356 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> You may need to ask in #bukkit
#357 [03:30] <cbreaker> I has a bukkit
#358 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> We mostly provide support for the core game of minecraft
#359 [03:32] <cbreaker> Are you guys paid for this, or you have just been playing so long you're this good?
#360 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> We're all volunteers here.
#361 [03:32] <aetherian> whee
#362 [03:34] <cbreaker> I haven't slept yet, so I was just referring to the phrase I has a bukkit, I haven't heard of the bukkit program yet thanks again.
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#364 [03:37] <chipery> anyone here?
#365 [03:37] <aetherian> nyet
#366 [03:38] <LargePrime> no one at all
#367 [03:38] <aetherian> all...alone...forever...
#368 [03:38] <chipery> ...
#369 [03:38] <chipery> talking about someone that can help me
#370 [03:38] <LargePrime> no one at all
#371 [03:38] <NotiCon> sorry there isnt anyone here atm please try again later
#372 [03:38] <aetherian> I can hinder you :)
#373 [03:38] <chipery> fuck yall
#374 [03:39] <_303> ?? ask
#375 [03:39] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#376 [03:39] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#377 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Now that's not nice..
#378 [03:39] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: who, him?
#379 [03:39] <aetherian> he was justified, I think
#380 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#381 [03:39] <Juze> Oh how I miss the early days of Minecraft IRC channels :)
#382 [03:40] <Juze> No flaming etc.
#383 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> I miss IRC before mibbit and other crap cluttered the channels
#384 [03:41] <aetherian> ...
#385 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> When only techies knew what IRC even was, much less how to join a network.
#386 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> In the days of fservs and text-based games.
#387 [03:42] <aetherian> GreyVulpine, mr. oldy moldy
#388 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> Those were the good ol' days.
#389 [03:45] <aetherian> don't turn into a "you all suck I was here before" people D:
#390 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> Nah, just you youngins' have no respect :P
#391 [03:47] <aetherian> I have respect.
#392 [03:48] <aetherian> :D
#393 [03:48] * aetherian likes text based games
#393 [03:48] <GreyVulpine> You haven't seen anything until you've played MUDs/MOOs.
#394 [03:49] <aetherian> I've seen cows :o
#395 [03:49] <aetherian> one of my favorite games is zork :D
#396 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#397 [03:49] <aetherian> newer, I know.
#398 [03:49] <aetherian> @_@
#399 [03:51] * DopeGhoti looks up a screenful and is saddened by the "Can anyone give me the answer _before_ I do any googling for it myself LARTworthiness
#399 [03:51] <DopeGhoti> On that note, nanite
#400 [03:51] <NotiCon> D:
#401 [03:52] <aetherian> what
#402 [03:52] <aetherian> dopeghoti: wat
#403 [03:53] <NotiCon> but thats what that guy did
#404 [03:56] <aetherian> wait wait
#405 [03:57] <aetherian> i r confyoozed about my hw T_T
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#407 [03:57] <NotiCon> your hw?
#408 [03:57] <NotiCon> what did it do?
#409 [03:57] <aetherian> vox, if I have exchange rates for america and canada, for america and japan, how can I find the rate for canada and japan?
#410 [03:57] <aetherian> I can't brain D:
#411 [03:58] <VoxelHead> yes, but only on the third wednesday of every month
#412 [03:58] <aetherian> oh okay
#413 [03:58] <aetherian> this is only the second D:
#414 [03:59] <NotiCon> aetherian: well you exchange it the canada stuff to america stuff and then to japan stuff
#415 [04:00] <aetherian> lesse
#416 [04:00] <aetherian> I have one canada dollar...
#417 [04:00] <NotiCon> then exchange it to america dollar
#418 [04:00] <aetherian> 1.038421599 american dollars... then to japanese :D
#419 [04:00] <NotiCon> yup
#420 [04:01] <aetherian> I can't brain this time at night >.>
#421 [04:01] <NotiCon> night?
#422 [04:01] <NotiCon> its 10 am :/
#423 [04:01] <aetherian> it's 1 am
#424 [04:01] <aetherian> you put in a zero
#425 [04:01] <NotiCon> no
#426 [04:01] <NotiCon> i live in another timezone
#427 [04:02] <aetherian> my timezone is better though :o
#428 [04:02] <NotiCon> aetherian: how so?
#429 [04:02] <aetherian> I live in it.
#430 [04:02] <NotiCon> riight
#431 [04:02] <aetherian> :D
#432 [04:02] <VoxelHead> riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
#433 [04:02] <NotiCon> ^
#434 [04:02] <VoxelHead> -_-
#435 [04:02] <aetherian> everybody bow to my extreme narcissism!
#436 [04:03] <NotiCon> not an option
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#438 [04:04] <aetherian> finished what I scheduled for to- err, yesterday for doing of that homework
#439 [04:04] <aetherian> :D
#440 [04:04] <VoxelHead> :o)
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#450 [04:42] <aetherian> g'night
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#455 [05:16] <Wug> voxelhead!!!1
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#457 [05:19] <amphibulus> Anyone here?
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#460 [05:30] <Thoatt> bleh
#461 [05:31] <NotiCon> agreed
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#473 [06:09] <Thoatt> *sigh*
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#475 [06:20] <Wug> lol eclipse has used 30 minutes of cpu time
#476 [06:20] <Thoatt> lolz
#477 [06:21] <Wug> thats almost as much as chrome, which has been open probably 50x longer
#478 [06:21] <Wug> I had 40 files open at one point
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#481 [06:59] <Wug> I love it when no one needs help
#482 [07:00] <Wug> well i'm going to bed. committed my mc source stuff again. I changed over 160 files, and fully deobfuscated maybe 10 or 15 more.
#483 [07:00] <NotiCon> D:
#484 [07:05] <SlashLife^m> is the minecraft protocol documented?
#485 [07:08] <Thoatt> I've never seen anything on it... so idk :/
#486 [07:08] <Thoatt> I doubt it though...
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#488 [07:09] * Thoatt hopes that the 11.04 update doesn't kill his install
#488 [07:09] <Thoatt> ._.
#489 [07:09] <SlashLife^m> well, doesn't really matter. :)
#490 [07:09] <SlashLife^m> I'm equipped with tools for reverse engineering and I know how to use them. :)
#491 [07:09] <Thoatt> lol
#492 [07:09] <Thoatt> glwt
#493 [07:10] <SlashLife^m> I'm waiting for a new job, I am bored, I have the skills and I want control over world generation. :)
#494 [07:11] <Thoatt> xD
#495 [07:11] <SlashLife^m> So I'll at least give porting the server to C++ a shot. :)
#496 [07:11] <SlashLife^m> On our server, we wanted a desert world ... but seeds only go so far ...
#497 [07:11] <[z]> If you're going to do that, better to port craftbukkit rather than the vanilla server..
#498 [07:12] <SlashLife^m> mh. good point.
#499 [07:12] <[z]> Or if you just want a desert world, make a plugin for bukkit that does that..
#500 [07:13] <SlashLife^m> Not a big fan of Java. ;)
#501 [07:13] <[z]> So much that you'd port the server just to make a small change? :P
#502 [07:14] <SlashLife^m> I'm also hoping to let the client follow at some point and then to be able to combine server and client plugins.
#503 [07:14] <SlashLife^m> well, if I know myself correctly, I'll have more ideas down the road. :)
#504 [07:15] <Thoatt> WABBIT SEASON!
#505 [07:15] <SlashLife^m> one of them builds on top of the gate travel plugin and involves the automated generation of new cyclic worlds.
#506 [07:16] <SlashLife^m> (cyclic: the world has a predefined size and if you run too far in one direction, you'll end up where you started.)
#507 [07:17] <SlashLife^m> would make for a nice "real" star gate universe. :)
#508 [07:21] <NotiCon> Thoatt: it might
#509 [07:21] <Thoatt> it might what?
#510 [07:22] <NotiCon> look back 13mins
#511 [07:22] <Thoatt> oh... yeah I know..
#512 [07:22] <NotiCon> i sometimes hate mutexes
#513 [07:22] <Thoatt> I tried to install the beta from disc and it failed.. so I just installed 10.10 and am doing a mounted 11.04 alternate iso upgrade
#514 [07:23] <NotiCon> cant do upgrade ?
#515 [07:23] <Thoatt> Doesn't upgrade through the manager.
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#524 [08:09] <Three> hi
#525 [08:09] <Three> i need HELP
#526 [08:10] <NotiCon> you do? would you specify your issue?
#527 [08:10] <Three> okay
#528 [08:10] <Three> i am trying to host a server on my mac
#529 [08:10] <Three> a public server
#530 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> And what's the problem?
#531 [08:11] <Three> I was wondering if I had to send my ports in order to do that
#532 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes, you'll need to port forward.
#533 [08:11] <Three> okay
#534 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> 25565-25565/TCP
#535 [08:11] <Three> coudl you tell exactly how to
#536 [08:11] <Three> could*
#537 [08:11] <NotiCon> its different for each router
#538 [08:12] <Three> do you have netgear?
#539 [08:13] <Three> i have the model number but it doesnt say anything about portd
#540 [08:13] <Three> ports*
#541 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to log into your router's config page?
#542 [08:13] <Three> im not sure
#543 [08:13] <Three> how would i
#544 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> Have you done port forwarding before?
#545 [08:13] <Three> ?
#546 [08:13] <Three> no
#547 [08:13] <Three> never
#548 [08:14] <Three> maybe i could find someone here to host the server for me?
#549 [08:15] <Wug> you could ask one of your friends to do it
#550 [08:15] <Wug> also hello greyvulpine
#551 [08:16] <Wug> a fine morning to you,
#552 [08:16] <Three> none of my friends (4) play minecraft
#553 [08:16] <Wug> WHAAAT
#554 [08:16] <Three> im homeschooled man\
#555 [08:16] <Wug> make them buy it
#556 [08:16] <okraits> what do you need a server for then anyway?
#557 [08:16] <Three> barely have friends
#558 [08:16] <Wug> go outside more
#559 [08:16] <Three> its cool
#560 [08:16] <Three> I DO
#561 [08:16] <Three> everyday around 3:00
#562 [08:16] <Three> until 8:00
#563 [08:17] <Three> pm
#564 [08:17] <Three> I Swear
#565 [08:17] <Three> Having a server is cool
#566 [08:17] <Three> lol
#567 [08:17] <Three> *sigh*
#568 [08:18] <Three> even if they get the game most of there computers are too SLOW
#569 [08:19] <Three> and my closest friends dad is like very protective over his macs
#570 [08:19] <Three> is everybody ignoring me?
#571 [08:19] <okraits> not yet :)
#572 [08:19] <Three> thanx
#573 [08:20] <Three> I need help though
#574 [08:20] <okraits> well, you could read your router manual about how to forward ports
#575 [08:20] <Three> okay
#576 [08:20] <Three> first could you test it
#577 [08:20] <Three> and see if it works
#578 [08:20] <okraits> not me, i have no minecraft here at work
#579 [08:20] <Keltinray> If you've done no forwarding yet, it won't work :p
#580 [08:21] <Keltinray> unless your router is magical and unsecure
#581 [08:21] <Three> maybe it is
#582 [08:21] <Wug> it doesn't seem to be, I just checked
#583 [08:21] <Thoatt|Bed> if so, lemme whip up a quick program for you to run :D It's completely legit, i promise :P
#584 [08:22] <Wug> can't access it from the outside
#585 [08:22] <okraits> btw, i have a server question too
#586 [08:22] <okraits> debian virtual server, 1 gb ram
#587 [08:22] <Wug> 1gb isn't very much
#588 [08:22] <okraits> this seems to be not enough ram for that great java server :)
#589 [08:23] <okraits> yeah
#590 [08:23] <Wug> it should be ok for not more than like 10 people
#591 [08:23] <Wug> less if everyone's exploring
#592 [08:23] <okraits> well, the strange thing is that it doesn't start to swap
#593 [08:23] <okraits> free -m tells me that there's 0 ram free but it doesn't swap
#594 [08:23] <Wug> it just throws memory errors?
#595 [08:24] <Wug> java's an illogical hog
#596 [08:24] <okraits> well, i didn't run the mc server for a long time, i just tested if it would work
#597 [08:24] <Wug> it'll probably be ok as long as you don't overload it
#598 [08:25] <okraits> i already checked some alternative server implementations but of course they lack some features
#599 [08:25] <okraits> well, it's not practical as there's no ram left if i run the mc server
#600 [08:26] <okraits> seems like i need to find a stronger machine to host the mc server
#601 [08:27] <Wug> can you not just buy another gig?
#602 [08:27] <Wug> rams cheap
#603 [08:28] <Thoatt|Bed> Wug: perhaps he's renting?
#604 [08:28] <okraits> indeed
#605 [08:28] <Keltinray> Virtual server, is probably rentded from one of the VPS-providers
#606 [08:28] <Thoatt|Bed> o lawd...
#607 [08:28] <okraits> i would check if i could get a ram upgrade
#608 [08:28] <Thoatt|Bed> That seemed to work... :D
#609 [08:29] <Wug> can you not just rent another gig?
#610 [08:29] <okraits> but a ram upgrade just for the mc server - no
#611 [08:29] <okraits> well, there's no ultimate need for the mc server
#612 [08:29] <Wug> have you tried hosting it yourself?
#613 [08:29] <okraits> so i don't want to spend money especially for that
#614 [08:30] <okraits> yeah, that would be the alternative solution then
#615 [08:30] <okraits> on my workstation
#616 [08:30] <okraits> or we'll put it on some machine at work
#617 [08:30] <okraits> we'll see :)
#618 [08:30] <Wug> you can run with about 35 people on an 8mb/s connection
#619 [08:30] <okraits> ah ok
#620 [08:31] <Wug> which is probably reasonable for a work connection
#621 [08:31] <okraits> well, right now we are 4 workmates playing mc :)
#622 [08:31] <Wug> you could probably host that on anything
#623 [08:31] <okraits> yeah
#624 [08:31] <Wug> if it stays at 4, you might just keep the vps
#625 [08:32] <okraits> well, on my virtual server, i guess the problem is that it doesn't swap
#626 [08:32] <Wug> but if you can get a free box at work on a lan connection, that would be good too
#627 [08:32] <okraits> it even doesn't have enough ram then to kill processes
#628 [08:32] <Wug> does the vps have a disk quota
#629 [08:32] <Keltinray> okraits, who's your host?
#630 [08:32] <okraits> Keltinray: we have a machine from hosteurope
#631 [08:33] <okraits> Wug: yeah, but there's space left
#632 [08:33] <Wug> I tried to run an mc server on my academic account here a while ago
#633 [08:33] <Wug> it filled up my disk quote in about 10 seconds
#634 [08:33] <okraits> we have 211 mb ram and 8.3 gb hd free
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#636 [08:34] <okraits> but if i start the mc server, there's 0 mb ram free
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#638 [08:34] <Three> hi again
#639 [08:34] <Three> i have given up
#640 [08:34] <okraits> well, i guess some nice machine at work would be best
#641 [08:34] <Wug> you have 1GB ram, and only 200mb free, without the server running?
#642 [08:34] <Three> does anyone know any goo NEW server ips
#643 [08:34] <Wug> on debian?
#644 [08:34] <Wug> something seems wrong
#645 [08:34] <Three> good*
#646 [08:35] <okraits> Wug: apache, postfix, etc
#647 [08:35] <Wug> do you need all of that?
#648 [08:35] <Wug> or is it mandatory
#649 [08:35] <Thoatt|Bed> even with ALL that, you should be no where near only 220 left...
#650 [08:35] <okraits> well, it's more important than the mc server ;)
#651 [08:35] <Wug> also, if you have root access, you might be able to configure the swap space
#652 [08:35] <Thoatt|Bed> err... 200*
#653 [08:36] <okraits> Wug: well, i don't know if java processes do use swap in general
#654 [08:36] <okraits> java process = the java vm
#655 [08:36] <Wug> they should
#656 [08:36] <okraits> yeah
#657 [08:37] <Wug> I know mine does if I do something ridiculous
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#659 [08:37] <Wug> like blow up 15000 tnts
#660 [08:38] <Three> does anyone know any goo NEW server ips
#661 [08:38] <Three> does anyone know any goo NEW server ips
#662 [08:38] <Three> good/*
#663 [08:38] <gPad2002> Spam?
#664 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#665 [08:38] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#666 [08:38] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#667 [08:39] <Three> i know
#668 [08:39] <Three> but i was wondering if you guys would suggest one
#669 [08:40] <Three> nvm then
#670 [08:40] <Keltinray> I have mine hosted by fragnet, but I haven't tested it extensively yet
#671 [08:40] <Keltinray> ping is decent from Norway at least, but I haven't gotten any good load-testing
#672 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> Try smp.shadow-craft.net
#673 [08:40] <Three> kk
#674 [08:40] <Three> than
#675 [08:40] <Three> x
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#679 [08:51] <mib_ewucng> hello
#680 [08:52] * Thoatt|Bed waves
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#681 [08:56] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] .5 next week! (Anonymous) - Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:49:39 +0200
#682 [08:56] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#683 [08:56] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.4_01 (Anonymous) - Tue, 05 Apr 2011 04:28:11 -0400
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#686 [09:04] <smallest> hi
#687 [09:04] * Thoatt|Bed waves
#687 [09:04] <smallest> anyone here?
#688 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#689 [09:05] <smallest> then who are you ><
#690 [09:05] <smallest> @@
#691 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> Bot
#692 [09:05] <smallest> lol
#693 [09:05] <Thoatt|Bed> He is a wizard.
#694 [09:05] <smallest> asking mc question at here?
#695 [09:05] <Eledore[NL]> not "anyone" he is Greyvulpine
#696 [09:06] <smallest> or at # minecraft
#697 [09:06] <smallest> ?
#698 [09:07] <smallest> haloo~~
#699 [09:07] <GreyVulpine> If you have a question, just ask
#700 [09:07] <smallest> why my mc keep not responding ? is it my Java problem?
#701 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, yes.
#702 [09:09] <smallest> @@ my java is >> Java(TM) 6 update 24
#703 [09:09] <smallest> right vision?
#704 [09:10] <Thoatt|Bed> http://i.imgur.com/XnGKR.png
#705 [09:10] <Thoatt|Bed> This is a good sign...
#706 [09:10] <Thoatt|Bed> :P
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#708 [09:11] <smallest> what is ubuntu
#709 [09:11] <Thoatt|Bed> ...
#710 [09:11] <smallest> sorry my english not so good
#711 [09:12] <smallest> i google translate also no have
#712 [09:12] <Thoatt|Bed> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu
#713 [09:12] <McPlusPlus> "Let me google that for you" at lmgtfy.com
#714 [09:14] <smallest> is it a program?
#715 [09:14] <smallest> to open mc
#716 [09:15] <Thoatt|Bed> No.
#717 [09:15] <Thoatt|Bed> It's an operating system.
#718 [09:16] <smallest> so what is the relationship with my problem @@ ...
#719 [09:16] <smallest> my mc keep no respon , play until half and shutdown
#720 [09:16] <Thoatt|Bed> ... I never said it had anything to do with your problem...
#721 [09:16] <smallest> lol
#722 [09:16] <Thoatt|Bed> Try reinstalling java?
#723 [09:17] <smallest> your java is what vision?
#724 [09:17] <Thoatt|Bed> idk... too lazy to check.
#725 [09:17] <smallest> lol
#726 [09:18] <smallest> after you check, i pay you a diamond :)
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#733 [09:33] <andy16s> can anyone help me
#734 [09:34] <Thoatt|Bed> ??> andy16s ask
#735 [09:34] <VoxelHead> andy16s: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#736 [09:34] <VoxelHead> andy16s: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#737 [09:34] <andy16s> ok i need help with the gift codes
#738 [09:34] <Thoatt|Bed> What kind of help?
#739 [09:34] <andy16s> i dunno
#740 [09:35] <andy16s> my brother bought me a gift code this morning and it wont accept it
#741 [09:35] <Thoatt|Bed> What does it say?
#742 [09:36] <andy16s> it says the gift code is incorrect or has already been used
#743 [09:36] <Thoatt|Bed> Are you sure you are typing it correctly?
#744 [09:36] <andy16s> yep
#745 [09:36] <Thoatt|Bed> Did he purchase the code directly from Minecraft.net?
#746 [09:37] <andy16s> yep
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#748 [09:37] <andy16s> its not one of those survey things or a fake code this is payed for
#749 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Can he check his profile on minecraft.net? Make sure the gift code is listed there..
#750 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> and is exactly what you're typing in
#751 [09:38] <andy16s> ill try that
#752 [09:38] <andy16s> brb
#753 [09:39] <Bastian_Duhari> Hello, can i buy the game with paysafe?
#754 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Not at this time
#755 [09:39] <Bastian_Duhari> hmm...
#756 [09:39] <Bastian_Duhari> ok
#757 [09:39] <Bastian_Duhari> thank you
#758 [09:42] <andy16s> lol he didnt give me the dashes over the phone
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#760 [09:43] <Keltinray> You're gonna want those
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#765 [10:15] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Anyone on that can answer a little techinal question about minecraft playability?
#766 [10:17] <Whitetiger1kitkit> No? ok I'll just keep searching for the answer then
#767 [10:17] <Keltinray> It would probably have been an idea to actually provide the question
#768 [10:17] <Keltinray> Can't really know whether or not we can answer it without knowing what the question is.
#769 [10:18] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Well I was going to wait to see if anyone would answer like say "Yes. I can probably answer your question"
#770 [10:19] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Asking a question.. then no one answering is kinda well sad
#771 [10:20] <Whitetiger1kitkit> But I guess I'll ask anyway... if I can play the classic game without much problems.. should I be worried about being able to play the beta ver?
#772 [10:22] <Keltinray> What kind of machine-power are you sitting on?
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#774 [10:24] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Machine power?? like specs??
#775 [10:24] <Keltinray> yeah
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#777 [10:25] <Whitetiger1kitkit> AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz 1536MB RAM GeForce FX 5200
#778 [10:27] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Windows XP Home Edition
#779 [10:28] <Keltinray> Personally, I'd go for it and give it a try, but ram -might- become an issue.
#780 [10:28] <Keltinray> I don't know how Classic was/is on memory-consumption, but Beta eats ram like candy
#781 [10:28] <bread> NOM NOM NOM
#782 [10:28] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Hmm thought it was somewhat the same just beta has more things in it
#783 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> 1.5gigs shouldn't be a problem.. unless you've got a lot of stuff running in the background as well
#784 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Beta's game engine, has been reworked, little resembles classic under the hood
#785 [10:29] <Keltinray> I'd say go for it
#786 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Honestly, I don't see a problem with that
#787 [10:29] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Ok good... Was worried about I was going to buy it but then not able to play it.... would just suck...
#788 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> I ran a 3000+, gig of RAM, and a 6600gt, and minecraft ran fine
#789 [10:30] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Only problem I face now is my mothers vista card not being accepted
#790 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> I'd choose paypal over the DIBS system
#791 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> More likely not to get an error
#792 [10:30] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Don't think we have paypal...
#793 [10:31] <Whitetiger1kitkit> gotta check
#794 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to make a paypal account
#795 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> You can use paypal to pay via credit card
#796 [10:31] <Whitetiger1kitkit> So I can use the paypal method and still be able to use the vista card?
#797 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Visa card, yes
#798 [10:31] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Ok cooool
#799 [10:32] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Going to see if I can do it now.. before my mother leaves for the hospital to see my dad
#800 [10:43] <Keltinray> Whitetiger1kitkit, how'd it go?
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#804 [10:49] <BlueJello> I can play with a framerate around 5-15 in tiny render distance on a comp with a 1.6ghz atom processor, on board graphics, and 1 gig ram
#805 [10:50] <BlueJello> and apparently a 1.6 ghz atom processor is equivilant to a 900 MHz pentum 4 processor.
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#807 [10:50] <_303_> ever tried the optimine mod? helps me a ton for performance
#808 [10:51] <BlueJello> optifog helps more
#809 [10:51] <BlueJello> did get 90 FPS on this comp, but that was looking up from close to the top of the world
#810 [10:51] <BlueJello> on tiny render distance
#811 [10:51] <_303_> I just disable the sky/fog/stars entirely in my unreleased optimine version :P
#812 [10:52] <BlueJello> I have yet to try your verson of optimine, may work beter than the other unreleased one.
#813 [10:52] <BlueJello> and it works with optifog, which changes h
#814 [10:52] <BlueJello> gah, meant to hit backspace and remove that.
#815 [10:52] <_303_> no, I mean the version you can't download. it breaks rendering for others if they set view distance > short
#816 [10:52] <_303_> so no point releasing
#817 [10:52] <BlueJello> ah, nvm then
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#819 [10:53] <BlueJello> how would you go about that if you know nothing about modding? (me)
#820 [10:54] <BlueJello> but I usually am at short/tiny on the only computer that needs it so it would not help much...
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#827 [11:30] <mib_j7njb2> hi
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#829 [11:40] * Wug pokes the chat
#829 [11:44] <Wug> hey greyvulpine
#830 [11:44] <Wug> if people come here asking for help with mods, you can invite them to mcmods, I enabled invites
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#837 [11:51] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Comes online.. .goes offline ... comes online goes offline... weird
#838 [11:51] <Ir0nman> invite me
#839 [11:52] <Keltinray> So, Whitetiger1kitkit, you a proud Beta-user now?
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#841 [11:53] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Nope... the card isn't going through
#842 [11:53] <Keltinray> awww...
#843 [11:53] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Seems to be a problem with the card itself
#844 [11:54] <Whitetiger1kitkit> so we gotta take it out "gets a hammer"
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#846 [11:54] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Hopefully its just a minor issue that can be worked out.
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#849 [11:57] <Wug> esper's bouncing like a rubber ball
#850 [11:57] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Bouncy bouncy?
#851 [11:58] <Wug> it's really annoying
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#853 [11:58] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Try to not think about it
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#855 [12:03] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Soooo... how's everyone?
#856 [12:05] <BlueJello> okish
#857 [12:06] <Thoatt|Bed> tired.
#858 [12:06] <Thoatt|Bed> lol
#859 [12:06] <Floris> Trying to stay ahead of this flu that is poking my body.
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#863 [12:29] * Wug just found tnt
#863 [12:35] <Thoatt|Bed> found? lol
#864 [12:36] <Thoatt|Bed> /away bedforreal
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#867 [12:37] <slimer> deree
#868 [12:37] <slimer> he es huana schriebts zurck es scheiskinda
#869 [12:38] <_303_> translation: "hey you whores reply you sh*t-children"
#870 [12:38] <Morrolan> Euhm, what language was this? It looks like german, but with a horrible accent. Oo
#871 [12:39] <_303_> some austrian dialect
#872 [12:39] <Morrolan> Ah yeah, that could be.
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#876 [13:01] <Wug> god the tnt code is ugly
#877 [13:02] <Wug> every time an explosion is created, it enters a loop
#878 [13:03] <Wug> of this loops ~4000 iterations, only about 700 do anything :P
#879 [13:03] <Wug> this is for each explosion.
#880 [13:03] <_303_> Wug: are you diligently entering the names you figure out to the MCP database?
#881 [13:03] <Wug> I'll submit everything to them somehow when I finish
#882 [13:03] <Wug> magically
#883 [13:03] <_303_> just go to #mcp and say !help
#884 [13:03] <_303_> check out how much they have already mapped
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#886 [13:04] <_303_> mcp deobfuscates the minecraft source with the names people like you manually figured out and entered. so no more as and bs in the source, but archer, ticksExisting etc
#887 [13:05] <Wug> yep I figured
#888 [13:05] <Wug> it looks like they're pretty far in
#889 [13:05] <Wug> the bot doesn't tell me exactly how far though
#890 [13:05] <_303_> try !status
#891 [13:05] <Wug> i did, it says "<client|server>
#892 [13:05] <Wug> "
#893 [13:06] <_303_> no, you did todo
#894 [13:06] <_303_> todo client tells you the classes with the fewest mapped names
#895 [13:06] <Wug> the biggest issue I'm having atm is that some method names are ambiguous
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#897 [13:07] <Wug> and if I refactor any of them, eclipse will go ahead and change all of the ambiguous ones anyway, even if it's not definite that they are what it thinks they are
#898 [13:07] <_303_> which is why mcp automatically assigns disambiguating func_nnnn_a names to unknown names
#899 [13:07] <Wug> which, of course, will break everything
#900 [13:08] <Wug> the problem is, of course, that the source is ambiguous, and I can't tell what function is the right one
#901 [13:08] <_303_> again, mcp solves this
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#904 [13:09] <Wug> i'll be able to once I have enough variables and context to figure out which functions they are supposed to be
#905 [13:09] <Wug> but until then, each of them could be as many as 4 or 5 other things
#906 [13:10] <Wug> most of them are single argument functions called 'a' that take a null when used
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#908 [13:17] <Wug> 303, is esper dropping you?
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#910 [13:17] <_303> no, client crashing
#911 [13:17] <montezuma> hey mother fucking guys
#912 [13:17] <Wug> esper's been flaky lately
#913 [13:18] * Wug hurls montezuma
#913 [13:18] <montezuma> loöl
#914 [13:18] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Its a bird! its a plane! no its montezuma...
#915 [13:19] <bread> maybe if minecraft would get their own IRC server, esper wouldn't be so 'flaky'
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#920 [13:26] <xolotl> bread: Heh, I think an IRC server run by Mojang would be far worse than esper
#921 [13:26] <xolotl> Not to rag on Mojang or whatever. :)
#922 [13:27] <xolotl> (not that I've been having any real problems with esper)
#923 [13:28] <bread> Neither do I, lol
#924 [13:29] <bread> but I don't think anyone should complain about esper, especially not in a minecraft channel, when it's most likely minecraft that's causing the problems.
#925 [13:30] <bread> Minecraft channels account for the majority of users on esper. >:|
#926 [13:31] <AG_Scott> I'm pretty sure #minecraft and #bukkit are the largest channels.
#927 [13:32] <bread> my point exactly.
#928 [13:32] <AG_Scott> and I am right, followed by this channel.
#929 [13:33] <dopeghoti> I think that if MS were to _try_ to run one IRC server, yes, it would quickly turn pruple and fall over. Because that's not now IRC is designed to be implemented.
#930 [13:33] <dopeghoti> (TTANTS: MS, MS)
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#932 [13:34] <GreenThePepper> Hello
#933 [13:34] <AG_Scott> Bonjour.
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#935 [13:34] <GreenThePepper> I've got a problem with the ban system, someone may help?
#936 [13:35] <VoxelHead> penguins
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#938 [13:35] <GreenThePepper> I can't join any server global!
#939 [13:36] <GreenThePepper> I asked for help everywhere, you are my last adress
#940 [13:37] <Wug> have you bought alpha?
#941 [13:37] <VoxelHead> someone set up us the bomb. In my pants
#942 [13:37] <bread> ^ lol
#943 [13:37] <Wug> voxelhead, mute
#944 [13:38] * Wug pushes button on remote
#944 [13:38] <GreenThePepper> please?
#945 [13:38] <dopeghoti> Vox, be quiet please.
#946 [13:38] <xolotl> re: largest channel stuff; just did some quick numbers and it looks like there's about 7k people in channels in esper at the moment (though that would include duplicates of people in multiple channels)
#947 [13:39] <VoxelHead> Nnk.
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#949 [13:39] <xolotl> So while Minecraft might be the *largest* channels, and a pretty good percentage, we're not necessarily overwhelming the servers
#950 [13:39] <xolotl> (at least, not in a "we are the majority of Esper sort of way)
#951 [13:39] <GreenThePepper> where is it better to be helped than here?
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#953 [13:41] <GreenThePepper> re
#954 [13:41] <GreenThePepper> can someone help me? ive got a joining problem since days, it doesn't matter what pc i use or it its updatet.
#955 [13:42] <dopeghoti> What happens when you try to connect? What is your minecraft account name?
#956 [13:42] <dopeghoti> Have you tried connecting to more thanone server?
#957 [13:43] <xolotl> ('course I suppose that doesn't take into account activity; I wouldn't be surprised if the Minecraft channels were on average more active than the others)
#958 [13:44] <GreenThePepper> when i connet it stop and shows "You are banned...." but iam not
#959 [13:44] <GreenThePepper> not global and not local
#960 [13:44] <GreenThePepper> ive checked that
#961 [13:44] <GreenThePepper> yes
#962 [13:44] <GreenThePepper> many
#963 [13:44] <dopeghoti> And your account name is?
#964 [13:44] <GreenThePepper> GreenThePepper
#965 [13:45] <dopeghoti> !paid GreenThePepper
#966 [13:45] <GreenThePepper> :D
#967 [13:45] <GreenThePepper> sure i did!
#968 [13:45] <VoxelHead> :)
#969 [13:45] <dopeghoti> Just checking (:
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#971 [13:46] <dopeghoti> I'd have you try connecting to my server but it's still at 1.3 due to rabid wolves
#972 [13:46] <GreenThePepper> so I really don't know whats up with the servers may you heared about some other players with same problem
#973 [13:46] <GreenThePepper> how to downgrade? have you got a link?
#974 [13:47] <dopeghoti> Are you sure you're getting a message about being banned and not about not being on thw whitelist?
#975 [13:47] <GreenThePepper> i mean i know how to downgrade, but i havent got the .minecraft folder
#976 [13:47] <GreenThePepper> absolutly sure
#977 [13:48] <GreenThePepper> is you server at 1.3 or 1.3.1?
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#979 [13:48] <dopeghoti> there is no 1.3.1 server; 1.3.1 was a client-only update
#980 [13:49] <GreenThePepper> okey i will downgrade to 1.3.1 now, could i get your ip to check if it don't work at your server too? ..probably i gess -.-
#981 [13:52] <GreenThePepper> hmmm its going up to 1.4.1 by its own
#982 [13:52] <dopeghoti> if that's happening you need the new client
#983 [13:53] <dopeghoti> which has an option to not update
#984 [13:53] <GreenThePepper> where do i get it?
#985 [13:53] <dopeghoti> !client
#986 [13:55] <GreenThePepper> its even doing same with this client
#987 [13:56] <GreenThePepper> but back to the main problem: have you ever heared of that?
#988 [13:56] <GreenThePepper> there are 2 other players with the same problem
#989 [13:58] <GreenThePepper> okey ive found a server where i can connect
#990 [13:58] <dopeghoti> the only cause I have seen for a "you have been banned" message is that the player has indeed been banned.
#991 [13:58] <GreenThePepper> do you know MCBans?
#992 [13:58] <GreenThePepper> no iam not
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#994 [14:01] <GreenThePepper2> iam sorry, firefox collaps
#995 [14:01] <GreenThePepper2> as i said, iam not banned anywhere
#996 [14:01] <GreenThePepper2> but its shown all the time
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#998 [14:03] <DreadLindwyrm> It could be sloppy block bans. Are you on a shared network?
#999 [14:04] <dopeghoti> If you have found some servers that you in, then it's clearly a server side issue
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#1001 [14:05] <GreenThePepper2> but the other dont use mcbans
#1002 [14:08] <GreenThePepper2> dam...
#1003 [14:08] <GreenThePepper2> i dont wanna buy a new game
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#1006 [14:09] <dopeghoti> well, talk to the server admins and see about getting yourself unbanned
#1007 [14:09] <DreadLindwyrm> Seriously - are you on something like a university network, or even a dynamic IP address?
#1008 [14:11] <Morrolan> Get someone to connect from your network with a different account if possible. This should show us wheter it's your account which is banned or your ip.
#1009 [14:12] <GreenThePepper2> okey we may found the problem
#1010 [14:12] <dopeghoti> DreadLindwyrm: apparently his account was banned via something called MCBans, which I suppose shares bans across several servers
#1011 [14:12] <GreenThePepper2> its one of mcbans skripts
#1012 [14:13] <GreenThePepper2> thank you for you help, hope it will work soon
#1013 [14:13] <GreenThePepper2> bye
#1014 [14:13] <DreadLindwyrm> That's why I was thinking it was either a block ban (e.g. a /8 block) or a ban on a dynamic IP he has picked up
#1015 [14:13] <GreenThePepper2> no
#1016 [14:13] <GreenThePepper2> iam not banned!
#1017 [14:13] <GreenThePepper2> well, thank at all
#1018 [14:13] <GreenThePepper2> bye
#1019 [14:13] <Floris> good luck
#1020 [14:13] <dopeghoti> So MCBans doesn't just do what it says on the tin. Good to know, I guess
#1021 [14:13] <Floris> vanilla, +1
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#1023 [14:16] <Morrolan> Dopeghoti: It's a global banning system, like VAC. (Only that it's run by the community, and not by Mojang)
#1024 [14:16] <dopeghoti> ♥ vanilla
#1025 [14:16] <Morrolan> I'm not really fond of it, but I've never seen problems with it up to now.
#1026 [14:16] <dopeghoti> Morrolan: that's what I thought.
#1027 [14:19] <Floris> private servers shouldn't even consider it..
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#1029 [14:19] <dopeghoti> The only reason I was ever thinking of running any mods at all was for a whitelist
#1030 [14:20] <dopeghoti> and now that that's in vanilla, I have no reason to even ponder mods
#1031 [14:20] <dopeghoti> this makes my happy.
#1032 [14:20] <Morrolan> Ah, I couldn't live without all the bukkit plugins I'm using I think.
#1033 [14:20] <Floris> i can :)
#1034 [14:20] <dopeghoti> as can I
#1035 [14:21] <dopeghoti> Vanilla is the best flavor, absent Strawberry ☻
#1036 [14:21] <Floris> i can as op user already /give if i am tired of making 5000 + blocks for a wall and i need 200 more.
#1037 [14:21] <Floris> but i dont mind spending time mining and building things to farm stuff i need, etc.
#1038 [14:21] <Floris> its going rather quick already, and we consider /give a cheat on the server, and allow it 'incidentally'
#1039 [14:22] <Floris> if you give players the freedom to do basically anything at any time, in any time, the creativity gets removed as game element.
#1040 [14:22] <Floris> yeah you get massive huge buildings.
#1041 [14:22] <Floris> but .. without creativity.
#1042 [14:23] <Morrolan> Floris: You can run a server with plugins without making it a freebuild server, can't you? ;)
#1043 [14:24] <Floris> i guess. :)
#1044 [14:24] <Floris> my goal now though is to get some regulars that we believe we can trust enough to not be dicks on the box.
#1045 [14:25] <Floris> before we extend it with other things.
#1046 [14:25] <Floris> i guess we first have to find a way to have ops, regulars (premium?) and normal players (guest players)
#1047 [14:25] <Floris> ops/users =fine, we just wish there was one more usergroup where can give a few more commands to, gradually.
#1048 [14:25] <Floris> maybe bukkit does that, i dunno.
#1049 [14:26] <Floris> i kinda wanna wait until 1.6 is stable enough and bukkit supports it. before considering it.
#1050 [14:26] <Keltinray> Permissions plugin
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#1052 [14:27] <Keltinray> or you could make your own brand of plugin
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#1060 [14:47] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] .5 next week! (Anonymous) - Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:49:39 +0200
#1061 [14:47] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1062 [14:47] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.4_01 (Anonymous) - Tue, 05 Apr 2011 04:28:11 -0400
#1063 [14:48] <g> ~stfu
#1064 [14:48] <Morrolan> Old news is old, even if you're a bot. :p
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#1071 [15:27] <FlameTai1> Anyone around that can help me with my server? =/
#1072 [15:27] <_303> just ask your question
#1073 [15:28] <FlameTai1> I keep having major problems and I have everything port forwarded -.-|| I keep getting "Connection Lost Internal client error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out"
#1074 [15:29] <FlameTai1> I have found multiple threads and no solution =/
#1075 [15:31] <Floris> you tried 127. ip of the machine, 192. ip? or just localhost, or the public ip ? .
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#1077 [15:32] <FlameTai1> I have tried localhost, 192.168.2.2:7372 (My local IP with the port i've been using) external etc.
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#1079 [15:32] <Owenno6> Hello- I am having issues with v1.4_01 crashing constantly during gameplay- can anyone here help?
#1080 [15:33] <Floris> strange port :/
#1081 [15:33] <FlameTai1> Firewall is completely disabled, no anti-virus
#1082 [15:33] <FlameTai1> Floris: The problem was even happening on the default port.
#1083 [15:33] <Floris> crash how ? .. and at what point ? randomly ? exactly after 5,1 minutes ?
#1084 [15:33] <Owenno6> I'm running Win XP, and all was fine until I updated from 1.3 this week
#1085 [15:33] <Owenno6> random crashing, no error message
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#1089 [15:34] <Owenno6> sometimes I have sound, sometimes I don't- I have deleted the mincraft folder and reinstalled, to no avail
#1090 [15:34] <mib_czq0fk> Hello
#1091 [15:34] <mib_czq0fk> Im banned at all Servers
#1092 [15:34] <Floris> Owenno6 ; you run your own server localhost, or connect to a server you're not admin on?
#1093 [15:34] <mib_czq0fk> Can you help me?
#1094 [15:34] <Floris> perhaps ask the admin of the server to check server.log and give you a dump of your connection data in it
#1095 [15:34] <Owenno6> sometimes it will lock up for a few seconds, but usually it just crashes to desktop within about 10 mins of gameplay
#1096 [15:34] <Floris> mib_czq0fk "all" ?
#1097 [15:34] <Floris> i did't ban you on my server for example.
#1098 [15:34] <mib_czq0fk> Yes all
#1099 [15:34] <Floris> did you use a pirated account ?
#1100 [15:35] <Owenno6> I'm just playing single player on my Pc, not through the browser
#1101 [15:35] <mib_czq0fk> No i have two accounts
#1102 [15:35] <mib_czq0fk> legal at minecraft.net buy
#1103 [15:35] <Vector> [12:04:33] <mib_czq0fk> Im banned at all Servers
#1104 [15:35] <Vector> that's rather odd
#1105 [15:36] <FlameTai1> Agree'd
#1106 [15:36] <DreadLindwyrm> What exactly do you get as a banned message?
#1107 [15:36] <Vector> Well hopefully all the servers you connected to were using an MCBan plugin, and you happened to be added to MCBans
#1108 [15:36] <mib_czq0fk> You are banned from this Server
#1109 [15:36] <Floris> "this" != all
#1110 [15:36] <[z]> What's the account name?
#1111 [15:36] <Floris> try a public server that doesn't use mcban
#1112 [15:36] <mib_czq0fk> No, my own server didnt use mcbans and im banned too
#1113 [15:37] <Vector> woah
#1114 [15:37] <[z]> You're banned from your own server?
#1115 [15:37] <Vector> now that's really trippy
#1116 [15:37] <mib_czq0fk> My Account Name is Ajo1896
#1117 [15:37] <[z]> Are you using a strange modified client?
#1118 [15:37] <Floris> vanilla clean instlal, no addons, etc?
#1119 [15:37] <mib_czq0fk> No its the normal client by minecraft.net
#1120 [15:37] <Owenno6> Floris, (or anyone really) are you aware of others having this problem? or any other workarounds?
#1121 [15:37] <VoxelHead> 69
#1122 [15:37] <Floris> you using a TOR or proxy perhaps ?
#1123 [15:37] <VoxelHead> would i lie?
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#1125 [15:37] <Owenno6> it has become nearly impossible to play since I updated
#1126 [15:37] <mib_czq0fk> I didnt use mods or texturepacks
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#1128 [15:38] <Floris> i dunno if the "client" minecraft.exe spits out .log files though .. maybe worth browsing the directory for Owenno6
#1129 [15:38] <Vector> man, i am still having troubles with minecraft
#1130 [15:38] <Vector> even with "limit framework" on :-/
#1131 [15:38] <Vector> i mean
#1132 [15:38] <Floris> !paid Ajo1896
#1133 [15:38] <Vector> "limite framerate"
#1134 [15:38] <_303> Owenno6: can you run minecraft from the command line? so you see why it's crashing?
#1135 [15:38] <Floris> So far so good.
#1136 [15:38] <mib_czq0fk> Yes
#1137 [15:38] <mib_czq0fk> Ajo1896 is a legal Account
#1138 [15:38] <Vector> !paid test
#1139 [15:38] <mib_czq0fk> Ive sad it
#1140 [15:38] <Vector> !paid AlphaBlend
#1141 [15:39] <Floris> Now we checked it :D
#1142 [15:39] <Owenno6> _303 how do I do that? command line as in DOS prompt?
#1143 [15:39] <Vector> brb
#1144 [15:39] <Floris> who knows, maybe it would have spit out "no longer a paid acocunt because he killed 5 smurfs"
#1145 [15:39] <_303> yes, cmd window
#1146 [15:39] <Owenno6> ok, my DOS is VERY rusty, how do I go aobut doing that?
#1147 [15:40] <_303> mind joining #risucraft for a bit? I don't want to spam this channel with instructions, and I dislike PMs
#1148 [15:40] <Owenno6> sounds good
#1149 [15:41] <mib_czq0fk> My Account is buggy
#1150 [15:41] <mib_czq0fk> I play only in singleplayer than
#1151 [15:42] <mib_czq0fk> but ive paid for it and it was so...
#1152 [15:42] <Owenno6> _303 i'm on that channel now
#1153 [15:42] <_303> no you are not
#1154 [15:43] <Owenno6> perhaps I created a new one then :P
#1155 [15:43] <mib_czq0fk> I have 2 Accounts an i must buy a third one?
#1156 [15:43] <Floris> mib_czq0fk ; perhaps open a support ticket?
#1157 [15:43] <_303> Owenno6: you should be able to click on the channel name I said and join it that way
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#1159 [15:44] <Owenno6> _303 I'm using mibbit (for the first time, and simply joined #risucraft in the home tab... should I try that channel in a different server? I havent used IRC in forever :)
#1160 [15:44] <mib_czq0fk> I am banned from Channel help?
#1161 [15:44] <mib_czq0fk> Why?
#1162 [15:45] <mib_czq0fk> ok
#1163 [15:45] <mib_czq0fk> Hello
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#1165 [15:45] <[z]> Get a proper name.. /nick something
#1166 [15:45] <Floris> who said you were "banned"
#1167 [15:45] <Vector> hm
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#1169 [15:46] <Ajo1896> I am Banned from all Servers
#1170 [15:46] <Ajo1896> If I have 3 accounts I can play multiplayer?
#1171 [15:46] <Vector> ok i should really use my actual minecraft name
#1172 [15:46] <Vector> but i'm fine with this one
#1173 [15:46] <Floris> You can MP with 1 ..
#1174 [15:46] <Vector> !paid Vector
#1175 [15:46] <Vector> Why why
#1176 [15:46] <Floris> because you didnt ?
#1177 [15:46] <Vector> someone signs up with that name, they should at least PAY for it -_-
#1178 [15:46] <Vector> I wanted the name Vector, but it was taken -.-
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#1180 [15:46] <Ajo1896> But it's not I'm banned everywhere, even on my own server without McBanS
#1181 [15:47] <Ajo1896> !paid Ajo1896
#1182 [15:47] <[z]> Your client must be broken then
#1183 [15:47] <Vector> i relocated to another building, sorry if I missed, but you're not using a modified client?
#1184 [15:47] <Ajo1896> Watch i have paid for it
#1185 [15:47] <[z]> Do force update
#1186 [15:48] <Floris> Ajo1896 ; We know the username you gave has paid for it, but you are not banned everywhere. I don't run mcbans, and you didn't get banned on my server by me. So .. you are not banned everywhere.
#1187 [15:48] <Ajo1896> I'm using 1.4_01 without mods and textures packs, and I have already downloaded more than once.
#1188 [15:49] <Floris> Since we can't help you further here, i simply suggested to consider opening a support ticket, so people with access to your account and your details can look into it, and do proper tests with you - if that's even needed.
#1189 [15:49] <Vector> i would delete .minecraft entirely from c:\documents and settings\<your computer name>\Application Data\
#1190 [15:49] <Floris> having 1, 2 or 3 paid accounts makes no difference.
#1191 [15:49] <Vector> then just re-download it all
#1192 [15:49] <Ajo1896> loris in several forums, some users have the same problem and we all doesnt know why this is
#1193 [15:50] <Floris> the more users report it in a support ticket, the more their internal staff gets to know about it and can look into it to find simularities .. rather than volunteeer uesrs like me, or some mods on a board.
#1194 [15:50] <Floris> just saying
#1195 [15:50] <[z]> Some strange malware that hates minecraft? o.o
#1196 [15:51] <Ajo1896> I have downloaded the client now 3-5 times
#1197 [15:51] <Floris> then it's a remote issue :)
#1198 [15:51] <Ajo1896> No, I'm sure that I do not have a virus
#1199 [15:51] <Floris> I don't know how to further help you - and i understand it completely sucks getting a banned msg when you're not banned.
#1200 [15:51] <[z]> Can others connect to your server?
#1201 [15:51] <Ajo1896> Yes
#1202 [15:52] <Ajo1896> Name ist Paul1896
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#1204 [15:52] <Floris> can you delete the .txt files ? (after backing up)
#1205 [15:52] <Ajo1896> He can connect
#1206 [15:52] <Ajo1896> !paid Paul1896
#1207 [15:52] <Floris> so whitelist, ban list, op list, etc isn't conflicting ?
#1208 [15:52] <[z]> That's also your account?
#1209 [15:52] <Ajo1896> Ajo1896 and Paul1896
#1210 [15:52] <Ajo1896> And I will take a third so I can play online
#1211 [15:52] <[z]> So you can connect with paul from one PC, but ajo on same PC is banned?
#1212 [15:52] <Floris> Why?
#1213 [15:53] <Ajo1896> Yes
#1214 [15:53] <Floris> what does a third account make a difference ?
#1215 [15:53] <Ajo1896> I didnt now
#1216 [15:53] <Ajo1896> Paul1896 is the Account of my friend
#1217 [15:53] <Ajo1896> i have paid for it
#1218 [15:53] <[z]> And you are using normal server?
#1219 [15:54] <Floris> but he said he got banned everywhere, so ANY online public or private server should reply "uyou are banned"
#1220 [15:54] <Floris> his local server doens't matter
#1221 [15:54] <Floris> so its internal.
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#1223 [15:54] <Ajo1896> I am banned everywhere with me even on a server at Nitrado
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#1225 [15:55] <[z]> So, something strange about your account, only thing I can think
#1226 [15:56] <Floris> what you guys can do is if someone here runs a server and allow him to connect, that he attempts, and the server admin checks server.log to see the full msg
#1227 [15:56] <Floris> maybe it says "outdated java, think he's banned" or something ..
#1228 [15:56] <Floris> (just brainstorming a suggestion)
#1229 [15:57] <[z]> He can't even connect to his own server, so he could do that himself
#1230 [15:57] <Vector> ajo
#1231 [15:57] <Ajo1896> Yes
#1232 [15:57] <Vector> can you play on any server by using the web client, under ajo?
#1233 [15:57] <Vector> or are you banned using the web client as well?
#1234 [15:57] <Ajo1896> One Moment i check it
#1235 [15:58] <Vector> ok
#1236 [15:58] <Vector> well floris
#1237 [15:58] <Floris> i mentioned it earlier, he didn't reply to it, so .. just forming it in a different way so it looks like it makes more sense ;)
#1238 [15:58] <Vector> that's not unfeasible in a way, maybe
#1239 [15:58] <Floris> ssmart suggestion vector, checking weblicnet as well ;)
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#1242 [15:58] <Vector> well we have to explore all possible grounds
#1243 [15:59] <IDdisk_guy> I have a problem with a Multiplayer server
#1244 [15:59] <Vector> what is your issue?
#1245 [16:00] <Vector> i'll try to help as best i can, i haven't managed a server yet
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#1248 [16:00] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :(
#1249 [16:00] <Floris> same here,i am new to minecraft for bout 2 weeks now lol
#1250 [16:00] <Vector> ?
#1251 [16:00] <IDdisk_guy> I created a server last night with the program off of the minecraft site, and It works perfectly for me, but my friend cannot connect to the server I made
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#1253 [16:00] <Vector> i bought minecraft before dec. 20th, i bought it right before it turned Beta
#1254 [16:00] <Floris> are you behind a router? did you port forward the minecraft port it binded to?
#1255 [16:01] <Floris> did you give them your public IP address, or your internal one??
#1256 [16:01] <IDdisk_guy> I gave him my, one sec
#1257 [16:01] <Ajo1896> On the Web program I can not play too
#1258 [16:01] <Floris> Vector ; I was drunk when i got my first one, i think i have 'floris' but i can't find a recovery of password - can't figure out which emai li used, lol
#1259 [16:01] <Vector> you need to forward port 25565
#1260 [16:01] <Floris> so i bought the game as mrfloris
#1261 [16:01] <Zyler> Hey guys, somebody here with Experience in setting up McMyAdmin on CentOS ?
#1262 [16:01] <Floris> i think i got it on alpha, bought the beta
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#1264 [16:02] <Floris> Zyler ; i looked into that last night, looked quite eh .. intrusive to minecraft, rather then just sit on top of it, so i decided against installing it.
#1265 [16:02] <Ajo1896> Zyler at McMyAdmin you can only play with 8 players for free
#1266 [16:02] <IDdisk_guy> yes I know, but the IP i gave him was the one you find when you do run>cmd>ipconfig
#1267 [16:02] <Floris> go to www.whatismyip.com - and compare it against the one you gave him ?
#1268 [16:02] <Vector> that won't work, IDdisk_guy
#1269 [16:02] <Zyler> We Only 4-6 Players
#1270 [16:02] <Floris> internal ip addresses ... dont work for . well . eexternal traffic
#1271 [16:02] <Zyler> So that is okay
#1272 [16:03] <Vector> you gave him your internal IP, which won't work unless he plays within the same network you do
#1273 [16:03] <IDdisk_guy> Ah, so what do I do
#1274 [16:03] <IDdisk_guy> ?
#1275 [16:03] <Vector> so check what your IP is with what Floris suggested
#1276 [16:03] <Vector> [13:04:48] <Floris> go to www.whatismyip.com - and compare it against the one you gave him ?
#1277 [16:03] <Vector> it'll give you your external IP, so you just give that to him
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#1279 [16:04] <Zyler> I've installed Mono and Java and if i startup McMyAdmin there is only one line McMyAdmin Updater - 1.1.0.0 and then nothing happens
#1280 [16:04] <Vector> but it also requires you to forward port 25565 to the IP listed in ipconfig, which is your IP address for your computer
#1281 [16:04] <Ajo1896> This is a pity that I can not play online, I think I'll wait for the release and I have an account set
#1282 [16:04] <Vector> if you are unsure of how to forward it, browse www.portforward.com for your router, and it will list instructions on how to forward it
#1283 [16:04] <Ajo1896> !paid 7marcus9
#1284 [16:05] <Vector> so only one of your accounts is banned from all servers?
#1285 [16:05] <Ajo1896> Ajo1896
#1286 [16:06] <Ajo1896> is banned but Paul1896 not
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#1288 [16:06] <Vector> that is REALLY weird, considering only one name is banned
#1289 [16:07] <Ajo1896> Yes but I can not change anything on it and is not directly Paul1896 my account
#1290 [16:07] <Zyler> So here is nobody how can help me with my problem with mcmyadmin ?
#1291 [16:07] <Ajo1896> here is nobody how can help my with my problem too i think
#1292 [16:08] <IDdisk_guy> This is going to sound horrible, I'm having an off day, what link do I click on on www.whatismyip.com?
#1293 [16:08] <h> http://www.whatsmyip.org/
#1294 [16:08] <h> Your IP Address is xxxxxxxxx
#1295 [16:08] <Ajo1896> Bye Bye
#1296 [16:08] <h> Use that one to send to your friends.
#1297 [16:09] <Contex> !paid D4ZZL3R
#1298 [16:09] <IDdisk_guy> I went to .com, thanks
#1299 [16:09] <VoxelHead> mmm dduchaine
#1300 [16:09] <Vector> h, i think he has it, he just has to forward his port right now
#1301 [16:09] <Vector> well disk, go back to ipconfig
#1302 [16:09] <Vector> and whatever it lists as your gateway
#1303 [16:10] <Vector> you need to go to your web browser, and put that into the address bar, and hit enter
#1304 [16:10] <Vector> http://<your gateway IP address>/
#1305 [16:10] <Vector> i usually do that
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#1307 [16:11] <IDdisk_guy> THANKS! That helped a lot.
#1308 [16:11] <h> Pff.
#1309 [16:14] <Vector> you're welcome
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#1311 [16:16] <IDdisk_guy> ugh, now I've changed the IP in the server.properties document, but when I run the server it says another server is already running on that port, when it obviously is not.
#1312 [16:17] <h> already tried rebooting?
#1313 [16:17] <[z]> What did you change it to? It may be used by something non-minecraft
#1314 [16:17] <h> Port could not have been closed properly
#1315 [16:17] <IDdisk_guy> I'll try again
#1316 [16:17] <h> Yeah, before anything, what port?
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#1318 [16:22] <mib_6qsufu> hey
#1319 [16:22] <mib_6qsufu> question
#1320 [16:22] <Wug> ?? ask
#1321 [16:22] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1322 [16:22] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1323 [16:22] <mib_6qsufu> do u guys know if there is a texture pack that makes it so u can see underwater and in lava ?
#1324 [16:22] * oldtopmanserver waits for mib to leave
#1324 [16:22] <Wug> not without mods
#1325 [16:23] <mib_6qsufu> aww =S
#1326 [16:23] <mib_6qsufu> alrite thanks
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#1328 [16:26] <VoxelHead> Bye.
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#1331 [16:29] <IDdisk_guy> I've restarted twice, and It still says a server is already running on this port.
#1332 [16:29] <[z]> What port?
#1333 [16:29] <IDdisk_guy> 25565
#1334 [16:30] <Vector> well are you able to connect to the server? perhaps its a service, and it's running
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#1336 [16:30] <IDdisk_guy> no, I can't connect to the server, because I need to run the server before I can connect, and it won't run because it syays failure to bind to port
#1337 [16:31] <Vector> interesting
#1338 [16:31] <[z]> Are you in windows?
#1339 [16:31] <IDdisk_guy> yes I am
#1340 [16:31] <[z]> command prompt.. "netstat -nao"
#1341 [16:31] <[z]> Look for 25565
#1342 [16:33] <IDdisk_guy> I can't find 25565...
#1343 [16:33] <Vector> you could add the -b switch to check which process is using that port, if it is in use
#1344 [16:33] <Vector> that's odd
#1345 [16:34] <[z]> It should be in order..
#1346 [16:34] <IDdisk_guy> well, that number shows up nowhere on the list
#1347 [16:34] <[z]> And erm, if you changed the port, wouldn't it be something other than 25565 which is the default?
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#1349 [16:34] <IDdisk_guy> I did not change the port
#1350 [16:35] <IDdisk_guy> I changed the IP
#1351 [16:35] <[z]> Don't
#1352 [16:35] <[z]> Blank it
#1353 [16:35] <IDdisk_guy> blank what?
#1354 [16:35] <[z]> The IP
#1355 [16:35] <IDdisk_guy> the port?
#1356 [16:36] <IDdisk_guy> wow, thanks
#1357 [16:36] <[z]> Heh
#1358 [16:36] <VoxelHead> =)
#1359 [16:37] <h> ...
#1360 [16:37] <h> fixed :D
#1361 [16:37] <IDdisk_guy> so, what do I tell my friend who will be connecting to this server, give him the external IP?
#1362 [16:37] <Vector> did that solve it?
#1363 [16:37] <Vector> yes
#1364 [16:37] <Contex> !paid kacyy
#1365 [16:37] <h> with the port forwared
#1366 [16:37] <IDdisk_guy> ok, then yes, it probably solved it
#1367 [16:38] <h> how does thwt work, Contex?
#1368 [16:38] <h> !paid h
#1369 [16:38] <IDdisk_guy> thank you very very much, h
#1370 [16:38] <h> >:(
#1371 [16:38] <h> sure, IDdisk_guy
#1372 [16:39] <Wug> !paid wug
#1373 [16:39] * Wug 's minecraft username secretly isn't wug
#1373 [16:39] <h> Flags : HideMail?
#1374 [16:40] <h> Mebey not IRC nicknames.
#1375 [16:42] <h> !paid noth
#1376 [16:42] <h> !paid nope
#1377 [16:42] <h> !paid asdasd
#1378 [16:42] <VoxelHead> !paid nope... !pope
#1379 [16:42] <h> >:(
#1380 [16:42] <aetherian> !pare nobody
#1381 [16:42] <aetherian> err
#1382 [16:42] <aetherian> !paid nobody
#1383 [16:42] <aetherian> :o
#1384 [16:42] <xolotl> heh
#1385 [16:42] <IDdisk_guy> I has!
#1386 [16:42] <VoxelHead> !
#1387 [16:42] <VoxelHead> -_-
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#1389 [16:43] <h> !paid everyone
#1390 [16:43] <h> damn
#1391 [16:43] <h> the truth
#1392 [16:43] <h> !stats
#1393 [16:43] <[z]> !paid you
#1394 [16:43] <aetherian> you has
#1395 [16:43] <aetherian> .___.
#1396 [16:43] <h> 6623178 registered users, of which 1904179 (28.75%) have bought[*] the game.
#1397 [16:43] <IDdisk_guy> Darn Skippy I did!
#1398 [16:44] <h> In the last 24 hours, 40103 people registered, and 9260 people bought the game.
#1399 [16:44] <h> AuBot; start doing that too.
#1400 [16:46] <Vector> man
#1401 [16:46] <Vector> almost 2 million purchase
#1402 [16:46] <Vector> purchases
#1403 [16:46] <Vector> notch is a rich man from minecraft
#1404 [16:46] <Vector> :P
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#1407 [16:49] <Keltinray> !paid Vector
#1408 [16:49] <Keltinray> D:
#1409 [16:49] <Keltinray> hmmm...
#1410 [16:49] <Keltinray> !paid Notch
#1411 [16:49] <VoxelHead> !paid Notch... !potch
#1412 [16:50] <gPad2002> Lol
#1413 [16:50] <Keltinray> So, Notch has paid for Minecraft. How dose that work, really?
#1414 [16:51] <xolotl> Keltinray: If I had to guess, I would say that Notch *probably* has access to his own user database
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#1416 [16:51] <gPad2002> :P
#1417 [16:51] <h> HAs_PAID
#1418 [16:51] <h> NAME: notch, true
#1419 [16:51] <h> et
#1420 [16:52] <xolotl> (or hell, it's not even unlikely that he might have actually paid himself 10euro as part of the registration-testing process)
#1421 [16:52] <Keltinray> ....good point
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#1425 [16:56] <pieguy1> hey do you guys know of a texture pack that makes underwater and under lava clear?
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#1427 [16:58] <_303> only with mods. crystalclearwaters perhaps
#1428 [17:00] * Owenno6 [Owenno6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1429 [17:01] <Owenno6> _303 can you link me to your other channel again?
#1430 [17:01] <Owenno6> #risucraft?
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#1434 [17:03] <mr_sticky> hi
#1435 [17:03] <mr_sticky> is http://www.minecraft4free.com/ fake?
#1436 [17:05] <xolotl> mr_sticky: It's not official, for sure. Whether or not they actually do give out gift codes for advertising is another question, of course
#1437 [17:05] * Rehevkor [Rehevkor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1438 [17:05] <xolotl> Keep in mind that even if it is real, they consider your time and effort worth more than 15euro, so you may as well just buy the thing.
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#1440 [17:06] <mr_sticky> well i allready have cose form it
#1441 [17:06] <mr_sticky> but it doean not work
#1442 [17:06] <Bailey> can anyone help me download the modloader and mo monsters pack?
#1443 [17:06] <mr_sticky> doeas not
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#1445 [17:06] <xolotl> mr_sticky: Signs point to it being fake then, eh?
#1446 [17:06] <xolotl> Bailey: Try #risucraft or #mcmods
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#1448 [17:08] <Bailey> how do i find #mcmods?
#1449 [17:08] <bread> /join #mcmods
#1450 [17:08] <xolotl> Bailey: The same way you found #minecrafthelp
#1451 [17:08] <bread> ^
#1452 [17:08] <xolotl> If you're using a graphical IRC client you can probably just click on it
#1453 [17:08] <Bailey> k found it
#1454 [17:10] <Bailey> #risucraft
#1455 [17:10] <Bailey> whoops
#1456 [17:10] <VoxelHead> doing it right: you're not doing it
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#1458 [17:12] <bread> lol vox
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#1463 [17:19] <gregthegeek> hello?
#1464 [17:19] <_303> Hi.
#1465 [17:20] <gregthegeek> u happen to know how to make an irc server on a mac?
#1466 [17:21] <bread> irc server?
#1467 [17:21] <bread> Good luck with that.
#1468 [17:21] <AG_Scott> This is not #irchelp lol
#1469 [17:21] <bread> If you don't know how to 'make an irc server' chance are, you won't soon figure it out.
#1470 [17:21] <gregthegeek> i cant seem to
#1471 [17:22] <bread> gregthegeek: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/
#1472 [17:22] <AG_Scott> IRC servers have absolutely nothing to do with Minecraft so it's really not appropriate for here.
#1473 [17:23] <bread> "Remember, you are expected to have moderate to advanced skills in IRC and UNIX, this isn't supposed to be easy or particularly self-explanatory. "
#1474 [17:23] <AG_Scott> and honestly, if you can't use google to find software that works, i don't think you'll be able to set it up.
#1475 [17:23] <bread> You don't seem to have those, so don't bother.
#1476 [17:23] * xolotl has a second-degree black belt in IRC
#1476 [17:23] * xolotl <- skillz
#1476 [17:23] <FlameTai1> !paid flametai1
#1477 [17:23] <FlameTai1> =D
#1478 [17:24] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1479 [17:24] <gregthegeek> whatever
#1480 [17:24] <FlameTai1> Kinda nifty being able to see who has paid for it
#1481 [17:24] <FlameTai1> lol
#1482 [17:24] <gregthegeek> bye
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#1484 [17:24] <bread> lol
#1485 [17:24] <FlameTai1> !paid notch
#1486 [17:24] <FlameTai1> lol
#1487 [17:24] <xolotl> ... did he just ragequit because we didn't help him create an IRC server?
#1488 [17:25] <bread> I believe so.
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#1490 [17:25] * AG_Scott sighs.
#1490 [17:25] <AG_Scott> It's for the best!
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#1492 [17:29] <coz> hey guys, i dont know if this counts as a 'help' request .. but is there anyone here from usa with a generic internet speed.. that wants to test if connecting to my EU server is even remotely possible
#1493 [17:29] <pieguy1> i will
#1494 [17:29] <xolotl> coz: I'll connect quick if you want; dunno if I'm "generic" though
#1495 [17:29] <pieguy1> gimme the ip
#1496 [17:29] <xolotl> Internet speeds in the US vary quite a bit
#1497 [17:29] <coz> oh a few is fine as well .. i still need to do my max players test ;D
#1498 [17:29] <xolotl> (my plan is 12mbit down, 768k up, or something along those lines)
#1499 [17:30] <coz> oh , lol .. i just heard .. *hisssss* booooom ..
#1500 [17:31] <coz> while i was trying to find my ip
#1501 [17:31] <coz> the ip is 82.73.169.16
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#1503 [17:36] <xolotl> coz: Yeah, was quite laggy
#1504 [17:36] <VoxelHead> i like them =D
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#1507 [17:38] <SPaRT> hallöchen
#1508 [17:39] <xolotl> I'll see your ö and raise you a ø
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#1510 [17:40] <Wug> I'll raise with
#1511 [17:40] <SPaRT> hehe
#1512 [17:40] <SPaRT> ok guys i need help
#1513 [17:40] <Wug> pchat doesn't take alt codes... huh
#1514 [17:40] <Morzan> I have a question, is there any signs that you are around diamond? or anyway to know where to find it?
#1515 [17:41] <Wug> ü
#1516 [17:41] <Wug> lol
#1517 [17:41] <SPaRT> can somebody of you show me how to create an automatic railway system?
#1518 [17:41] <DreadLindwyrm> Bottom dozen layers, no particular signs
#1519 [17:41] <xolotl> Morzan: It's most common between 10 and 16, I think
#1520 [17:41] <xolotl> Morzan: And yeah, it's pretty much random
#1521 [17:41] <Wug> if you can see diamonds, there is a very good chance that they are nearby.
#1522 [17:41] <Morzan> 10 and 16?
#1523 [17:42] <bread> ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ
#1524 [17:42] <Wug> those are typically considered the best layers to search on
#1525 [17:42] <Morzan> sorry im an uber noob lol just got game last night
#1526 [17:42] <DreadLindwyrm> Watch out for lava and carry a bucket of water and some spare rock
#1527 [17:42] <xolotl> Morzan: The lowest layer of bedrock is 0, the highest buildable point is 127
#1528 [17:42] <Wug> they tend not to have too much lava
#1529 [17:42] <xolotl> Morzan: Diamonds are most common between 10 and 16, I think (though they'll appear from between 0 and 18 or something like that)
#1530 [17:42] <xolotl> You may want to check the wiki for the actual numbers, though
#1531 [17:42] <Morzan> so like
#1532 [17:42] <Morzan> far down in a nut shell lol?
#1533 [17:43] <xolotl> Morzan: Yep. :)
#1534 [17:43] <Morzan> k
#1535 [17:43] <xolotl> Morzan: You could use an external utility like http://apocalyptech.com/minecraft/xray/ to find them more easily if you want
#1536 [17:43] <DreadLindwyrm> I got my main mine flooded by lava looking for diamonds. Well the bottom few layers around my stairs anyway
#1537 [17:43] <xolotl> Morzan: Or there's other similar mods and texture packs you can use
#1538 [17:44] <Morzan> havent hit lava yet
#1539 [17:44] <Morzan> ive hit bed rock a few times tho
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#1541 [17:45] <DreadLindwyrm> When you hit that, the best thing to do is go up a couple of levels and dig methodically.
#1542 [17:45] <Morzan> is there anyway to stop a flood and get rid of water?
#1543 [17:45] <xolotl> Morzan: Just plug the hole with a cobblestone or something; the accumulated water should all run away
#1544 [17:45] <xolotl> Morzan: Water in Minecraft really doesn't behave like it would in real life
#1545 [17:45] <Morzan> okay
#1546 [17:46] <xolotl> Morzan: There's "source" water blocks and "moving" water blocks; only the source blocks are permanent
#1547 [17:46] <Owenno6> I am still crashing during gameplay, randomly- I've increased my VM pagefile, and am getting this error https://gist.github.com/920528
#1548 [17:46] <xolotl> Morzan: You can get rid of a source block by either scooping it up with a bucket, or just placing a block on top of it
#1549 [17:46] <xolotl> (and by "on top of it" I actually mean "right in the same spot")
#1550 [17:46] <Owenno6> anyone know what may be causing this and how to fix it?
#1551 [17:46] <Morzan> 1 bucket gets rid of a block of water?
#1552 [17:46] <DreadLindwyrm> However moving blocks can turn into source blocks under the right conditions - see the wiki.
#1553 [17:46] <xolotl> Morzan: You can use one bucket to scoop up a single "source" water block, yes
#1554 [17:47] <Morzan> kk
#1555 [17:47] <xolotl> Morzan: (running water can't be scooped)
#1556 [17:47] <Morzan> im going to make some buckets
#1557 [17:47] <xolotl> Morzan: Ah, what DreadLindwyrm said is true as well btw. So it's possible you'd get new source blocks created
#1558 [17:47] <Morzan> luckily, i have only hit the ceilings of lakes
#1559 [17:47] <DreadLindwyrm> Owen - Did you get the error before increasing the pagefile?
#1560 [17:47] <xolotl> Morzan: Buckets are a bit annoying since you can't stack 'em. If you're just clearing out flooded passages, just plug the holes with blocks, etc.
#1561 [17:48] <Owenno6> I was crashign before increasing, but the error I dont know, I got the program to check errors whenI increased the pagefile, so not sure of that EXACT error
#1562 [17:49] <Owenno6> here is a more complete log of the error https://gist.github.com/920641
#1563 [17:49] <xolotl> Owenno6: Might want to search getsatisfaction for that error btw
#1564 [17:49] <xolotl> Owenno6: Specifically the atilogxx bit
#1565 [17:49] <Owenno6> ok
#1566 [17:50] <Morzan> What is the best way to be mining? or your favorite. Ive been mining doing clear 3 blocks step down
#1567 [17:50] <Morzan> until i hit bedrock, and then drop a torch and see if theres any coal,ect
#1568 [17:50] <DreadLindwyrm> 1 wide, 2 high passages with 2 blocks between passages works well on a given layer
#1569 [17:51] <DreadLindwyrm> for descending I use 1 forward, 1 down and make sure I have enough head room to get back up
#1570 [17:51] <xolotl> Morzan: What DreadLindwyrm mentioned is good for stripmining
#1571 [17:52] <xolotl> Morzan: Personally I much prefer just exploring natural caves and grabbing things that I see
#1572 [17:52] <xolotl> I don't have the patience for strip-mining. :)
#1573 [17:52] <DreadLindwyrm> I generally do it until I find interesting things.
#1574 [17:53] <Morzan> ah
#1575 [17:53] <Morzan> best thing i found(Atleast i think its good) its the red stuff
#1576 [17:54] <DreadLindwyrm> Red stuff is good. There's a whole section on redstone circuits on the wiki
#1577 [17:54] <xolotl> Morzan: Yeah, it's both good and useless, depending.
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#1579 [17:54] <DreadLindwyrm> I don't generally use it, but then I'm going for massive brooding constructions, not building a computer within a computer
#1580 [17:55] <xolotl> Yeah, I mostly just make blinky lights and doorbells and things. :)
#1581 [17:55] <Morzan> i have not really made anything yet, suppose i could make a house out of all this stone
#1582 [17:55] <Morzan> i had a nice game going last night i was going to make a house out of redstone but
#1583 [17:56] <Morzan> a freak explosion ended my fun D:
#1584 [17:56] <DreadLindwyrm> Creepers? They'll sneak up on you and then explode.
#1585 [17:57] <hmw> ssssss...... BOOM
#1586 [17:57] <Morzan> i had that off
#1587 [17:57] <hmw> hat em
#1588 [17:57] <Morzan> its on peaceful atm, learning the game before i can die D:
#1589 [17:57] <hmw> hate*
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#1591 [17:58] <Morzan> SHIT
#1592 [17:58] <Morzan> lol
#1593 [17:58] <Morzan> my best pick axe just got destroyed
#1594 [17:58] <hmw> Morzan: i recommend you switch to the next level soon, since there are ressources you can only get from mobs
#1595 [17:58] <Morzan> as soon as i hit diamond
#1596 [17:58] <hmw> heheh how long do you play the game now? sounds like few hours
#1597 [18:00] <Morzan> yah
#1598 [18:00] <Morzan> i got it at like 7 last night
#1599 [18:00] <Morzan> only been playing like 4 hrs in total
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#1602 [18:00] <hmw> heheh :)
#1603 [18:01] <hmw> light prevents mobs from spawning
#1604 [18:02] <hmw> but you need an awful amount of torches... like you lit your castle for a big feast
#1605 [18:02] <hmw> actually.... hopefully you dont lit the castle itself
#1606 [18:02] <Morzan> i got half of my toolbar filled up with stacks of 64
#1607 [18:02] <hmw> that should do lol
#1608 [18:02] <Morzan> whats best use for diamond?
#1609 [18:03] <hmw> i belive tools, perhaps armor, but armor isnt that important
#1610 [18:03] <hmw> or decoration
#1611 [18:05] <Morzan> ah
#1612 [18:05] <Morzan> im going to make a pick axe and save it for obsidian i guess
#1613 [18:05] <hmw> yes
#1614 [18:06] <Morzan> how long does a diamond pick last?
#1615 [18:06] <hmw> i use iron pickaxes for the other ores (besides iron of course) only, but they say, using stone tools was a beginners mistake. the talk goes like this: with an iron pickaxe you can dig more per time interval, thus you gain even more iron. I am not fully confident, tried it and consumed almost all of my iron. Now I am using stone tools again
#1616 [18:06] <hmw> quite long
#1617 [18:07] <DreadLindwyrm> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pickaxe
#1618 [18:07] <hmw> ah yes, thx. btw Morzan, the wicki rocks hard
#1619 [18:07] <hmw> omg.... i am not fully awake yet... all those typos, eek
#1620 [18:08] <Morzan> ah, i only use stone for the first few minutes
#1621 [18:08] <hmw> of course
#1622 [18:08] <hmw> perhaps you make some test runs and decide on your own
#1623 [18:09] <hmw> also, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/c/ca/PercentOfOreByHeight.png
#1624 [18:09] <hmw> oh... thats captioned in german...
#1625 [18:09] <Morzan> what is lapis lazuli?
#1626 [18:09] <hmw> a blue stone
#1627 [18:10] <DreadLindwyrm> As a whole, I tend to use stone or iron for most of my mining, making sure to keep at least one iron pick back for extracting diamonds. I then keep a diamond pick for extracting obsidian
#1628 [18:10] <hmw> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Ore english
#1629 [18:10] <DreadLindwyrm> Lapis lazuli is mostly usable as a dye
#1630 [18:10] <Morzan> ah
#1631 [18:10] <Morzan> Obsidian 50 secs* 50 secs* 50 secs* 50 secs* 15 secs 50 secs*
#1632 [18:10] <Morzan> so obsidian can be mined by other things?
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#1634 [18:10] <hmw> not mined really lol
#1635 [18:11] <Morzan> u know what i mean :D
#1636 [18:11] <DreadLindwyrm> No, only diamond. If the entry is red you can't use that tool
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#1638 [18:12] <hmw> there is another method of getting obsidian... lava sources become obsidian, when water is poured over them
#1639 [18:13] <Whitetiger1kitkit> So that's what lava is for...
#1640 [18:13] <hmw> and for building traps
#1641 [18:13] <Morzan> natural water or buckets?
#1642 [18:13] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I thought it was just something to make the enemy's jump into
#1643 [18:13] <hmw> and you could waste them in a furnace as fuel for the whole night
#1644 [18:13] <DreadLindwyrm> Either will work
#1645 [18:14] <DreadLindwyrm> They also make good places to destroy unwanted blocks, and you can build huge towers with lava cascading down the outside. :D
#1646 [18:15] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Magic floating castle with lava pouring outta of it?
#1647 [18:16] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ...hate to be under that..
#1648 [18:16] <DreadLindwyrm> Doable... Complete with lava moat
#1649 [18:17] <Morzan> if you fall into lava does it kill instantly?
#1650 [18:17] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Think it just sets you on fire...
#1651 [18:17] <DreadLindwyrm> You die fairly quickly
#1652 [18:18] <Morzan> shit
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#1654 [18:18] <Morzan> i gotta pay more attention then lol
#1655 [18:18] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Haven't seen lava yet... strangely
#1656 [18:19] <Morzan> me neither
#1657 [18:19] <Whitetiger1kitkit> New mission: Find lava
#1658 [18:20] <Morzan> lol i was aboutt o say same thing
#1659 [18:20] <Morzan> i want to try to get a portal going
#1660 [18:20] <Morzan> from obsidian
#1661 [18:21] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I want to make a castle... but currently I only a cave castle...sorta.
#1662 [18:21] <hmw> The void surfaced today on our server and ate a quarter of my fortress
#1663 [18:22] <hmw> some weird "misplaced chunk" error or something similar... it spread even lol
#1664 [18:22] <Whitetiger1kitkit> 0_0
#1665 [18:22] <hmw> someone had killed the virtual machine without shutting it down
#1666 [18:22] <Morzan> i got more of a
#1667 [18:22] <Morzan> hole in the ground
#1668 [18:23] <Morzan> 10x10
#1669 [18:23] <Morzan> ish
#1670 [18:23] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Picturing just a hole.... and you in it.. with a helmet on >_<
#1671 [18:23] <Morzan> lol
#1672 [18:23] <Whitetiger1kitkit> perfect defense! no zombie will noticed
#1673 [18:23] <Morzan> i have zombies off
#1674 [18:23] <Morzan> while i learn the game :P
#1675 [18:23] <Whitetiger1kitkit> 0_0
#1676 [18:24] <Morzan> does everything work the same way in multiplayer?
#1677 [18:24] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I don't know how to do that...would've been helpful to stop those exploding zombies from destorying my base
#1678 [18:24] <hmw> you only need to watch one of those "how to survive the first day" videos, the rest is more fun with mobs turned on, imho
#1679 [18:24] <hmw> Morzan: besides bugs and missing Nether, yes
#1680 [18:24] <hmw> lots of bugs
#1681 [18:24] <Keltinray> Whitetiger1kitkit, gotten yourself a nice pile of Minecraft yet? :3
#1682 [18:24] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Yes~ i got minecraft now
#1683 [18:25] <Whitetiger1kitkit> and I'm hated by the zombies already T-T
#1684 [18:25] <hmw> but i never played single player, started my server straight away
#1685 [18:25] <hmw> not being able to get visitors is dull
#1686 [18:25] <hmw> or playng cooperatively is so cool, too
#1687 [18:25] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Playing with another person makes games soooo much better
#1688 [18:26] <Keltinray> I played single player for about an hour first, poked around for a bit to get the hang of the controls - then downloaded the standard server, got a handful of friends to try it on the server
#1689 [18:26] <hmw> and quite easier
#1690 [18:26] <Morzan> ya im getting bored playing alone
#1691 [18:26] <Morzan> anyone want to play some multiplayer?
#1692 [18:26] <Keltinray> Morzan, you have server? :p
#1693 [18:26] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I would but... no clue how to do that
#1694 [18:26] <Morzan> no idk what that is d:
#1695 [18:26] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Heck finding out that I can make stair's is like a big thing for me currently
#1696 [18:26] <hmw> Morzan: you can simply copy the world from the single player to the server, btw
#1697 [18:27] <Morzan> how do i do that?
#1698 [18:27] <hmw> by just copying it
#1699 [18:27] <Whitetiger1kitkit> "I can make stairs!?!? holy crap! Where was this when I had trouble making this castle!)
#1700 [18:27] <hmw> only need to find the folders
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#1702 [18:27] <Morzan> kk
#1703 [18:27] <Morzan> is there a voice client?
#1704 [18:27] <hmw> make zip files from your folders first. start menu, run, type %appdata% and open .minecraft
#1705 [18:27] <Morzan> for multiplayer
#1706 [18:28] <hmw> only external... we use skype atm :(
#1707 [18:28] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Hmm haven't heard of any voice chats when I stared at youtube videos of minecraft all day
#1708 [18:28] <Keltinray> Morzan, most server-hosting-companies provide either teamspeak or mumble, but there is no builtin voice
#1709 [18:28] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Teamspeak ftw!
#1710 [18:28] <Morzan> ah
#1711 [18:28] <Keltinray> I got a free 10-slot mumble... I should try it out one day :S
#1712 [18:28] <hmw> the voice triggering in my ts2 sucks quite some... is ts3 significantly better? my friends dont like it
#1713 [18:29] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I haven't had a problem with teamspeak other then I couldn't take the skin as easily
#1714 [18:29] <Morzan> hmw do you have anyroom in your server?
#1715 [18:29] <Whitetiger1kitkit> or put in a skin to be correct
#1716 [18:29] <hmw> heheh
#1717 [18:29] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1718 [18:29] <hmw> well
#1719 [18:29] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Its a smiley on a string~
#1720 [18:31] <Morzan> shit lava just scared the fuck out of me
#1721 [18:31] <hmw> lol
#1722 [18:31] <Whitetiger1kitkit> You found lava??
#1723 [18:31] <Whitetiger1kitkit> lucky son of a gun... I wanted to take some lava and throw it on a zombie...and watch it melt!
#1724 [18:32] <Keltinray> Good luck throwing it :p
#1725 [18:32] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I'll figure out something!
#1726 [18:32] <Keltinray> You need a bucket to even carry any of it
#1727 [18:32] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Your crushing my moment here.
#1728 [18:32] <Morzan> lol i was trying to find some more diamond and
#1729 [18:32] <Keltinray> and if you get it in the wrong places, forest fire galore and you've burnt down your entire island
#1730 [18:33] <Morzan> i just saw orange
#1731 [18:33] <Whitetiger1kitkit> and then smokey comes out and says "only you can- ...wtf?....did you do this?!?.... naw naw you can't pervert forest fires your the problem!"
#1732 [18:33] <Whitetiger1kitkit> prevent"
#1733 [18:36] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Hmm wish there was a list of servers that you can go into to hang out with other people
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#1736 [18:38] <Keltinray> there are several
#1737 [18:38] <bread> bnar
#1738 [18:38] <Keltinray> but not all servers are any good :p
#1739 [18:38] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Better then playing by yourself.... and getting attacked by exploding zombies that ruin your good home..
#1740 [18:39] <Keltinray> try 174.55.52.166:25565 - supposedly a freebuild server with monsters turned on according to mcserverlist
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#1742 [18:41] <Whitetiger1kitkit> keithinray...your a zombie.
#1743 [18:41] <Keltinray> Not Zombie. Creeper. In a tux.
#1744 [18:41] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ....ether way your the one that explodes..
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#1746 [18:45] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ....a cow... just fell through... into the abyss!
#1747 [18:46] <Keltinray> Yeh, it happens
#1748 [18:46] <Keltinray> Server seems to be lagging a lot for me though
#1749 [18:46] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I'm getting hurt randomly..
#1750 [18:46] <pieguy1> seeing as how this is the help channel how would i get more players on our mc server?
#1751 [18:47] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Could put it on a public list or something
#1752 [18:47] <pieguy1> did that alredy
#1753 [18:48] <Keltinray> looks like Whitetiger1kitkit here is looking for a "home server" to play on at least :p
#1754 [18:48] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Hmm put it as a sig... and be active on the forums
#1755 [18:48] <Keltinray> Does your server have a website?
#1756 [18:48] <Whitetiger1kitkit> This server is currently hollow out...everywhere...
#1757 [18:48] <pieguy1> hmmm yea it dose
#1758 [18:49] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Umm.. I just....go knocked off the map?
#1759 [18:49] <pieguy1> lol well white waan join this server 0,0?
#1760 [18:49] <pieguy1> wana*
#1761 [18:49] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I'll give it a try
#1762 [18:49] <pieguy1> alrite but uhh haha its kinda down rite now because of silly afk owner
#1763 [18:49] <pieguy1> XD
#1764 [18:50] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Kick him the shins!
#1765 [18:50] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I mean ok
#1766 [18:50] <pieguy1> ill pm u the server
#1767 [18:50] <Whitetiger1kitkit> k~
#1768 [18:51] <pieguy1> yea just a note its usually not down just the owner is afk working on some work and is ignoring me>.>
#1769 [18:51] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Ah.
#1770 [18:52] <Keltinray> pieguy1, what kind of server is it? SMP/Bukkit? Survival? Modded? Good hosting? :p
#1771 [18:52] <pieguy1> its survival great hosting
#1772 [18:52] <pieguy1> well wait
#1773 [18:53] <pieguy1> isint smp and survival the same thing 0,0
#1774 [18:53] <Keltinray> pretty much
#1775 [18:53] <pieguy1> yea only down side is the owner is lazy >.> witch is y im learning linux so i can manage it
#1776 [18:54] <Keltinray> meh, don't need to know much Linux to manage a minecraft-server
#1777 [18:54] <pieguy1> yea thats y im learning
#1778 [18:54] <pieguy1> i just learned enough last nite
#1779 [18:54] <pieguy1> im gonna get shown how to add mods later 2nite
#1780 [18:54] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I don't know crap!... just thought I'd add something to the chat..
#1781 [18:54] <pieguy1> then im crystal xP
#1782 [18:54] <pieguy1> lol white
#1783 [18:55] <Keltinray> pieguy1, so the server with forever be broken after tonight, got it ;)
#1784 [18:55] <Keltinray> *will
#1785 [18:55] <pieguy1> lol
#1786 [18:56] <pieguy1> aite xP
#1787 [18:56] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Unless we get a stungun ... hehe
#1788 [18:56] <pieguy1> u wana join?
#1789 [18:56] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Pop outta no where and go "Get off your lazy butt!" (Stunnn!!!)
#1790 [18:57] <pieguy1> LOL
#1791 [18:59] <Whitetiger1kitkit> it could possible work.. I mean... no one wants to get shot with a stungun
#1792 [19:00] <pieguy1> well idunooooooo i think it would be fun ^.....^
#1793 [19:00] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Ooo I got a idea
#1794 [19:00] <Whitetiger1kitkit> hold a light bulb... I'll shoot you with the stungun.. and lets see if it will light
#1795 [19:01] <pieguy1> id be down to try it
#1796 [19:01] <Whitetiger1kitkit> We got ourselves some entertain for a good 2-3 hours!
#1797 [19:01] <pieguy1> =D
#1798 [19:01] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Omg a cow in MC just scared the little crap outta me
#1799 [19:01] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Living crap"
#1800 [19:02] <pieguy1> lol coward xP
#1801 [19:02] <Whitetiger1kitkit> its dark out there! and he just comes outta no where and splashs in the water like a little cow he is!
#1802 [19:02] <pieguy1> thats why u be a admin and kill them with adminz hax
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#1804 [19:03] <Whitetiger1kitkit> By the power of my admin epicness! I shall smite thy with my epic hammer of banhammer!
#1805 [19:04] <pieguy1> 0,0 hammer of banhammer?
#1806 [19:04] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ...yeah some guy named banhammer..
#1807 [19:04] <pieguy1> naw its more like BY THE POWER OF MY ADMIN EPICNESS!?!?!?! I SHALL SMITE THY
#1808 [19:04] <pieguy1> then /BUTCHER
#1809 [19:04] <Whitetiger1kitkit> .......then it would be tooooo short..
#1810 [19:04] <pieguy1> naw
#1811 [19:04] <pieguy1> its actually quite satisfying
#1812 [19:05] <Whitetiger1kitkit> .....Fine.....I'mma beat the crap outta the cow
#1813 [19:05] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ...ok its dead...
#1814 [19:06] <pieguy1> whaz the ip of the server ur on now
#1815 [19:06] <pieguy1> im bored my servers down
#1816 [19:06] <pieguy1> >.>
#1817 [19:06] <AG_Scott> why is it down? :(
#1818 [19:06] <pieguy1> owner is lazy
#1819 [19:06] <AG_Scott> Make your own then!
#1820 [19:06] <pieguy1> + working on a project
#1821 [19:06] <pieguy1> naw
#1822 [19:06] <pieguy1> im getting a professional server for free basically
#1823 [19:06] <pieguy1> xD
#1824 [19:06] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I would make my own but too lazy~~
#1825 [19:07] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Also I'mma get even on those exploding zombies evenutally with a bow and arrow
#1826 [19:07] <AG_Scott> Well if it's not working, I don't see how it's useful ;p
#1827 [19:07] <Whitetiger1kitkit> going "HA! you wish you could come over here and explode on me! but No! you can't!"
#1828 [19:07] <pieguy1> its always up i just broke it earlier and hes working on a project ignoreing me on skype
#1829 [19:07] <pieguy1> sooo
#1830 [19:07] <pieguy1> it is usefull till im a silly boi
#1831 [19:08] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Silly boi??.... more like evil boi...I MEAN yeah silly boi
#1832 [19:08] <pieguy1> shhhhhhhhhh
#1833 [19:08] <pieguy1> xP
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#1835 [19:10] <pieguy1> hmm y are there so many people in here if there all afk >.>
#1836 [19:10] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ......there ghosts?
#1837 [19:10] <pieguy1> or rather "idle"
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#1839 [19:11] <pieguy1> and they join and there silent 0,0 its scarry
#1840 [19:11] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Scary indeed.
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#1842 [19:12] <pieguy1> dosent help im watching amnesia imagineing idlers are a bunch of monsters waiting to rape me
#1843 [19:12] <pieguy1> 0,0
#1844 [19:12] <Whitetiger1kitkit> .....they want your pie pieguy1!
#1845 [19:13] <pieguy1> =o NOOOOOOOOOO
#1846 [19:13] <pieguy1> "runs"
#1847 [19:13] <pieguy1> "2 steps later out of breath"
#1848 [19:13] <Whitetiger1kitkit> .......your just as lazy as your server host!
#1849 [19:14] <pieguy1> its not my fault im fat i have a over active thyroid !?!?!?
#1850 [19:14] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ....
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#1852 [19:16] <m0nk> how do i start a server with mod or quest line or randomness?
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#1854 [19:16] <pieguy1> "stares at idlers" i dont know maby some 1 else dose
#1855 [19:17] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I have no clue... don't look at me~
#1856 [19:17] <pieguy1> u load the mod into the mod folder and press connect 0,0?
#1857 [19:17] <pieguy1> maby?
#1858 [19:17] <pieguy1> 0,0
#1859 [19:18] <m0nk> when i click on multiplayer there's no servers to choose from
#1860 [19:18] <pieguy1> ..?
#1861 [19:18] <pieguy1> you type in the ip
#1862 [19:18] <pieguy1> u dont choose any server 0,0?
#1863 [19:20] <m0nk> so how do i start a server
#1864 [19:20] <pieguy1> here ill give u a link
#1865 [19:20] <m0nk> that has a quest line or something similar
#1866 [19:20] <pieguy1> http://tinyurl.com/68lbwj3
#1867 [19:21] <pieguy1> http://tinyurl.com/6y6o9dn
#1868 [19:21] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Awesome my cave castle is looking awesome
#1869 [19:22] <pieguy1> 0,0 i wana see
#1870 [19:22] <Whitetiger1kitkit> :3 can't cause its not multplayer~ ^_^
#1871 [19:23] <pieguy1> screeenshots?
#1872 [19:23] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Ooooh yeah..
#1873 [19:23] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Do that later~
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#1875 [19:24] <TheDigitalNinja> I have the latest minecraft_server.jar file but its trowing out of date errors to my clients when they try to join
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#1877 [19:25] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Did you try looking up errors on the forums?? may be a faster fix then on here
#1878 [19:26] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Holy crap creepers outside!... and a skeleton...and a spider
#1879 [19:27] <peru> skeleton riding on a spider?
#1880 [19:27] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Sadly no
#1881 [19:27] <TheDigitalNinja> yeah everyone says just download the latest server. But im doing a wget of the .jar from the url on minecraft's website
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#1883 [19:28] <TheDigitalNinja> can anyone validate that the following checksum is correct for the latest version? cdcfd922abae8d6d6f25bdaba2774ae1
#1884 [19:30] <pieguy1> pie
#1885 [19:30] <pieguy1> pie is always the answer
#1886 [19:30] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ....no it ain't..
#1887 [19:31] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Dr pepper is the answer
#1888 [19:31] <fizyplankton> no at all
#1889 [19:31] <fizyplankton> not*
#1890 [19:31] <pieguy1> yes
#1891 [19:31] <fizyplankton> everyone knows that the answer is either 42 or 69, depending on how you look at it
#1892 [19:32] <pieguy1> no gtfo fizy its always 3.14159265
#1893 [19:33] <fizyplankton> e^(i*pi)=-1
#1894 [19:33] <Vector> let's round it to 3
#1895 [19:33] * mib_75r3jm [mib_75r3jm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1896 [19:34] <mib_75r3jm> i need help with the problem of starting my own server on mine craft by using the software on the website but i dont know wherre to go from there?
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#1898 [19:35] <UprootedEagle> poop
#1899 [19:35] <pieguy1> never rounding is for pansys
#1900 [19:35] <mib_75r3jm> huh?
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#1902 [19:36] <UprootedEagle> Why can't I chat on the #minecraft IRC channel?
#1903 [19:36] <pieguy1> mib
#1904 [19:36] <pieguy1> http://tinyurl.com/23ghlu8
#1905 [19:36] <Contrillion> UprootedEagle: Is your nick registered?
#1906 [19:37] <mib_75r3jm> wohhhh that was cool
#1907 [19:37] <UprootedEagle> Nope.
#1908 [19:37] <Contrillion> you will need to register it if you want to talk there
#1909 [19:37] <UprootedEagle> K how?
#1910 [19:37] <Contrillion> just type /msg NickServ help
#1911 [19:37] <UprootedEagle> k
#1912 [19:37] <UprootedEagle> Ty!
#1913 [19:37] <Contrillion> np
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#1915 [19:40] <Razorflame> Can lava sometimes appear on the surface?
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#1917 [19:40] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Maybe? idk... all I know is lava is hot and it doesn't help to make food taste better
#1918 [19:40] <Razorflame> XD
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#1921 [19:41] <Mach1av3ll1> If I have already bought minecraft can I gift it to another player? Or do we have to buy a second copy?
#1922 [19:42] <UprootedEagle> Gift codes.
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#1924 [19:42] <pieguy1> 2nd copy
#1925 [19:42] <UprootedEagle> http://www.minecraft.net/buy_gift_codes.jsp
#1926 [19:42] <Mach1av3ll1> ok, why does my card not work? I paid on one of those green dot cards and its saying not allowed fromthis country etc
#1927 [19:44] <UprootedEagle> Worked when I gifted it to a friend. I don't know how to fix your problem. Maybe someone else can help.
#1928 [19:44] <pieguy1> obvously u bought a card from a country that mc dosent accept?
#1929 [19:44] <Mach1av3ll1> i bought mjy copy with my cc in the us and it worked
#1930 [19:44] <UprootedEagle> Mc works in all countries.
#1931 [19:44] <Mach1av3ll1> but now this prepaid card doesnt
#1932 [19:44] <UprootedEagle> A debit card?
#1933 [19:44] <pieguy1> i didnt say mc dosent work in all countrys but im sure they dont accept payments from certain places
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#1935 [19:45] <Razorflame> No, he said he used a Greendot card
#1936 [19:45] <Razorflame> Greendot must not work in all countries
#1937 [19:45] <pieguy1> isint that a prepaid creditcard?
#1938 [19:45] <Razorflame> Yes
#1939 [19:45] <Mach1av3ll1> essentially it is
#1940 [19:45] <Mach1av3ll1> thats why idk
#1941 [19:45] <AG_Scott> ?? prepaid
#1942 [19:45] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#1943 [19:45] <Mach1av3ll1> damn thats lame
#1944 [19:45] <pieguy1> yea
#1945 [19:46] <pieguy1> same with any game
#1946 [19:46] <Mach1av3ll1> ive bought plenty with grrendot
#1947 [19:46] <AG_Scott> Or buying anything from a company outside the US...
#1948 [19:46] <Mach1av3ll1> ^
#1949 [19:46] <Mach1av3ll1> thats probably the issue
#1950 [19:46] <AG_Scott> My bank blocks foreign transactions.
#1951 [19:46] <UprootedEagle> Don't you have to register them online?
#1952 [19:46] <AG_Scott> had to do some stupid tax form to get them to lift it ._.
#1953 [19:47] <UprootedEagle> Like you have to register them for online usage?
#1954 [19:47] <Razorflame> Thank god Paypal works with MC, otherwise, I would've not liked it very much XD
#1955 [19:47] <Mach1av3ll1> i havnt had to do it before, i just pay and then call a validation number
#1956 [19:47] <Whitetiger1kitkit> You'd shoot it~
#1957 [19:47] <Mach1av3ll1> i would use my paypal
#1958 [19:47] <Mach1av3ll1> but i deleted it
#1959 [19:48] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Ctrl + alt + delete = paypal dead
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#1961 [19:58] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ZZzzzzZzz
#1962 [19:58] <pieguy1> booooooorinnnnnnnnng
#1963 [19:58] <pieguy1> i wish my owner wasent being lame
#1964 [19:58] <pieguy1> -.-
#1965 [19:58] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I wish I had a pizza.
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#1967 [19:59] <pieguy1> i wish i had a gf =/
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#1969 [19:59] <Whitetiger1kitkit> a GF named pizza?
#1970 [19:59] <pieguy1> hmm that would be intresting
#1971 [19:59] <pieguy1> imagine a stripper named pizza
#1972 [19:59] <pieguy1> HEY ORDER PIZZA
#1973 [19:59] <pieguy1> 0,0
#1974 [19:59] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Yeah... "pizza! hey hey no no I mean my GF! not the pizzaman.. .gosh"
#1975 [20:00] <pieguy1> lol
#1976 [20:00] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Oh wow finally a creeper is useful.. found iron
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#1978 [20:02] <pieguy1> hAKZ
#1979 [20:02] <pieguy1> y dose bread keep changeing his name
#1980 [20:02] <pieguy1> -..........-
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#1982 [20:02] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ....cause he becomes stale?
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#1985 [20:05] <pieguy1> that logic is broken
#1986 [20:05] <pieguy1> !?!?!?1
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#1988 [20:05] <Whitetiger1kitkit> .....<_< >_>
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#1990 [20:07] <Razorflame> Is the best way to get Flint to locate a bunch of gravel and just dig it all?
#1991 [20:08] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Think so
#1992 [20:08] <Razorflame> Maybe if you place a bunch of gravel, it has a chance to drop flint?
#1993 [20:09] <Razorflame> nah, probably not XD
#1994 [20:09] <Razorflame> thanks
#1995 [20:09] <Dark_Fox__> Er
#1996 [20:10] <Dark_Fox__> Actually yeah if you place gravel and dig it up again you can get flint
#1997 [20:10] <bluejello> if you place graval and break it you can get flint
#1998 [20:10] <pieguy1> wtf?
#1999 [20:10] <pieguy1> y dosent he just break the same block over and over?
#2000 [20:10] <bluejello> but not destroyign it by torch, or so I have yet to get one from that way
#2001 [20:10] <pieguy1> after makeing a tower
#2002 [20:10] <pieguy1> to the skyp box
#2003 [20:10] <bluejello> make a tower, then dig it from the top, decently fast way to get some flint
#2004 [20:10] <pieguy1> yep
#2005 [20:10] <bluejello> or make a skellie trap for arrows, that works
#2006 [20:10] <pieguy1> lol agreed
#2007 [20:10] <Whitetiger1kitkit> then why didn't yall tell him that?
#2008 [20:11] <pieguy1> but maby he needed flint and steel
#2009 [20:11] <bluejello> but you need to find a dungeon for that...
#2010 [20:11] <pieguy1> i was afk
#2011 [20:11] <pieguy1> i find a shit ton of dungeons
#2012 [20:11] <bluejello> I have only found two in the server I play in
#2013 [20:11] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I find.... caves...with nothing in them
#2014 [20:12] <bluejello> one time I explored a cave system without torches, got a lot of assorted ores and several diamonds... but this should not be in the help channal
#2015 [20:12] <pieguy1> well white on the server ur joining i have found atleast 30 dungeons
#2016 [20:13] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Well no one is asking for help currently
#2017 [20:13] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Did you slay the dragon of the darkscale clan!?
#2018 [20:13] <pieguy1> agreed
#2019 [20:13] <bluejello> if you have certain mods installed then they are easy to find.
#2020 [20:13] <bluejello> dungeons that is
#2021 [20:13] <pieguy1> nope no mods
#2022 [20:13] <pieguy1> just me being awesome
#2023 [20:14] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Pieguy1 in a lothing cloth..
#2024 [20:14] <bluejello> if you were in a server long enough, you could do that as well
#2025 [20:15] <bluejello> if you explored enough caves.
#2026 [20:16] <pieguy1> umm
#2027 [20:16] <Whitetiger1kitkit> dangit torchs scared me!
#2028 [20:16] <pieguy1> i found all 30 in about 2 days?
#2029 [20:16] <pieguy1> then i stopped looking for them
#2030 [20:16] <bluejello> I applaud you
#2031 [20:16] <bluejello> great master of dungeon-findingness
#2032 [20:16] <pieguy1> =P
#2033 [20:17] <bluejello> no computer, I do not want to restart to install updates
#2034 [20:17] <pieguy1> then turn auto update off tard?
#2035 [20:17] <Whitetiger1kitkit> I hate that
#2036 [20:17] <pieguy1> xD
#2037 [20:17] <pieguy1> just turn auto update off
#2038 [20:17] <pieguy1> and never update
#2039 [20:17] <Whitetiger1kitkit> That would be too easy!
#2040 [20:18] <pieguy1> i like easy thats y i do it
#2041 [20:18] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Easypieguy1
#2042 [20:19] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Blasted fall damage
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#2044 [20:21] <bluejello> That only works when the compuer has not already has downloaded the updates
#2045 [20:22] <Whitetiger1kitkit> awesome....random pig came into my cave castle....
#2046 [20:22] <bluejello> and yes, that was very much delayed
#2047 [20:22] <pieguy1> wite
#2048 [20:22] <pieguy1> white
#2049 [20:22] <Whitetiger1kitkit> what?
#2050 [20:22] <pieguy1> the servers up so u can go on now xP
#2051 [20:22] <Whitetiger1kitkit> .....Finally?...yeah that's the word
#2052 [20:22] <pieguy1> lol
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#2054 [20:23] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Woah..
#2055 [20:23] <pieguy1> ?
#2056 [20:24] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Looked like I was falling
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#2058 [20:24] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Dang mega chat delay
#2059 [20:24] <bluejello> loging in can do that
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#2062 [20:25] <Razorflame> How far away from a torch can a sapling be planted and have it still grow?
#2063 [20:26] <bluejello> indefinitly, sunlight works
#2064 [20:26] <Razorflame> I know
#2065 [20:27] <bluejello> but for underground or night, the wiki will help more
#2066 [20:27] <AG_Scott> I think he means underground
#2067 [20:27] <Razorflame> ^
#2068 [20:27] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Wait saplings can grow?... hmm odd
#2069 [20:28] <Razorflame> I'm thinking only one block away (right next to the torch
#2070 [20:28] <bluejello> USE BONE MARROW
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#2072 [20:28] <bluejello> wait....
#2073 [20:28] <bluejello> cough
#2074 [20:28] <Razorflame> Not that far into the game
#2075 [20:28] <Razorflame> Had to restart (again)
#2076 [20:28] <bluejello> at least a light level of 10 or more
#2077 [20:28] <Razorflame> Yeah, torches provide that, don't they?
#2078 [20:29] <bluejello> torch is light level 14, so three blocks away I think?
#2079 [20:29] <Razorflame> Thanks for the help
#2080 [20:29] <Razorflame> bye for now
#2081 [20:29] <bluejello> you also need enough room. but if you are tyring to grow a tree you should know that
#2082 [20:31] <pieguy1> how laggy is it white?
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#2085 [20:33] <bluejello> I do not understand the question
#2086 [20:33] <bluejello> do you mean fog?
#2087 [20:33] <bluejello> wait, nvm
#2088 [20:33] <bluejello> ./delete previous messages
#2089 [20:33] <Whitetiger1kitkit> lol
#2090 [20:34] <bluejello> I read that as how laggy is white, not how laggy is IT white
#2091 [20:34] <bluejello> I should go do homework now...
#2092 [20:34] <Whitetiger1kitkit> <_< >_>
#2093 [20:34] <Whitetiger1kitkit> You should go get me some cookies :3
#2094 [20:36] <bluejello> Thanks for the idea, I got myself some, how to send over the internet...
#2095 [20:37] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ....invent a data transfer machine that can transfer the cookies via air waves with data pixels...idk!
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#2097 [20:38] * whitetiger1kitkit plays cards with a ghost
#2097 [20:39] <bluejello> If I did that, I could just print off cookies from a local file :P
#2098 [20:40] <whitetiger1kitkit> <_< >_>
#2099 [20:40] <bluejello> FREE COOKIES
#2100 [20:40] <bread> NOM NOM NOM
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#2105 [20:42] <IDdisk_guy> I need to port forward my IP for a minecraft server, so I'm using portforward.com, but it's telling me I need to put my internal IP in the address bar but it says firefox cannot load the page
#2106 [20:42] <IDdisk_guy> >:(
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#2108 [20:43] <xales> IDdisk_guy: Are you putting _your_ IP, or your _router_'s IP?
#2109 [20:43] <bluejello> firefox would not be able to open your own IP address.
#2110 [20:43] <bluejello> it would be the router
#2111 [20:43] <thedude> my number for port forwarding keeps changing any solution?
#2112 [20:44] <IDdisk_guy> It showed a screenshot of the whole run>cmd>ipconfig thing and the default gateway is circled, so I put that in and it doesn't work
#2113 [20:44] <thedude> my number for port forwarding keeps changing any solution?
#2114 [20:44] <Whitetiger1kitkit> ZzzzZzz
#2115 [20:44] <bluejello> hmm... are you connectin to the internet through a router, or directly?
#2116 [20:45] <IDdisk_guy> me? a router
#2117 [20:45] <Sam> Hey everyone, question
#2118 [20:45] <Sam> I get a error when I attempt to join my server
#2119 [20:45] <Sam> Internal Exception: java.io.UTFDataFormatException: malformed input around byte 0
#2120 [20:45] <IDdisk_guy> this is the last thing I have to do so I can get my minecraft server to work for my friend
#2121 [20:45] <xales> Sam: what is the error?
#2122 [20:45] <Sam> bytes 1-4
#2123 [20:45] <thedude> me a router and with ethernet cord
#2124 [20:45] <xales> IDdisk_guy: What is the IP, exactly?
#2125 [20:45] <Sam> and sometimes it says invalid packet (numbers)
#2126 [20:45] <bluejello> that should be it, for IDdisk_guy
#2127 [20:46] <bluejello> and what is the error, sam
#2128 [20:46] <xales> Sam: What version does Minecraft say in the top left hand corner?
#2129 [20:46] <bluejello> er, nvm my message sam
#2130 [20:46] <IDdisk_guy> Minecraft Beta 1.4_01
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#2132 [20:46] <xales> IDdisk_guy: I wasn't asking you ._.
#2133 [20:46] <xales> What IP are you typing in?
#2134 [20:46] <IDdisk_guy> o, oops
#2135 [20:46] <Sam> 1.4_01
#2136 [20:46] <IDdisk_guy> 192.168.1.1
#2137 [20:47] <bluejello> I got that once on a server I was on, seemed like it was being caused by a forest fire.
#2138 [20:47] <xales> Sam: Re-download the server
#2139 [20:47] <bluejello> IDdisk_guy, that method should work.
#2140 [20:47] <Sam> i'm using mcmyadmin
#2141 [20:47] <IDdisk_guy> but it doesn't
#2142 [20:47] <xales> IDdisk_guy: Is that what it said on the website, or is that what it says on _your_ computer for the default gateway?
#2143 [20:47] <xales> Sam: try without it
#2144 [20:47] <IDdisk_guy> both mine and the website
#2145 [20:47] <Sam> : / how do I run a server without it ?
#2146 [20:47] <xales> Sam: what OS?
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#2148 [20:48] <Sam> w7 32 bit
#2149 [20:48] <Sam> home premum to be exact
#2150 [20:48] <bluejello> IDdisk_guy try in internet explorer, or a different internet browser
#2151 [20:48] <IDdisk_guy> k
#2152 [20:48] <thedude> my number for port forwarding keeps changing any solution?
#2153 [20:48] <bluejello> and 192.168.1.1 is the default for my router, so it seems to be a default.
#2154 [20:48] <bluejello> for internal IP addresses.
#2155 [20:49] <xales> Sam: just download the server and double click on it
#2156 [20:49] <IDdisk_guy> It still doesn't work
#2157 [20:49] <bluejello> thedude What do you mean by the number, IP address?
#2158 [20:49] <Sam> I'm sorry? where do I download the server?
#2159 [20:49] <xales> IDdisk_guy: what kind of router do you have?
#2160 [20:49] <xales> Sam: on the same page you download the client
#2161 [20:49] <Sam> oh!
#2162 [20:49] <IDdisk_guy> Linksys WRT320N
#2163 [20:49] <thedude> well the last three numbers keep changing
#2164 [20:50] <thedude> like everyday
#2165 [20:50] <bluejello> like 172.16.1.XXX?
#2166 [20:50] <bluejello> sounds like a dynamically generated IP address
#2167 [20:50] <bluejello> not a static one
#2168 [20:51] <thedude> ipv4 adress
#2169 [20:51] <xales> IDdisk_guy: err, that sounds rather...old
#2170 [20:51] <xales> it probably doesn't have an http interface
#2171 [20:51] <IDdisk_guy> Yeah, it works fine for the most part though, my brother got a cheap one
#2172 [20:52] <IDdisk_guy> so what do I do, I'm following the sites tutorial for this model
#2173 [20:52] <Sam> can I assume that I can type in localhost and join?
#2174 [20:52] <xales> the site has a tutorial for it?
#2175 [20:52] <IDdisk_guy> yes
#2176 [20:52] <xales> Sam: you can, but others cannot
#2177 [20:52] <thedude> thats what i though but even then it should not effect the foward but it does once it changes ppl can t join
#2178 [20:52] <bluejello> IDdisk_guy, your internet provider may provide you with a newer one for cheap. But you will want to get a new one someitme soonish
#2179 [20:52] <IDdisk_guy> but what can I do atm
#2180 [20:52] <Sam> I get the same error
#2181 [20:52] <Sam> should I try and redownload the client or something?
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#2183 [20:53] <Sam> actually
#2184 [20:53] <Sam> I tried it on the website too, same error t.t
#2185 [20:53] <bluejello> thedude if your IP address is dynaically created then they would need to know what it is when it changes or they would not be able to connect.
#2186 [20:53] <xales> IDdisk_guy: if you can't get into the management interface, nothing
#2187 [20:53] <bluejello> sam can you access any other servers?
#2188 [20:53] <IDdisk_guy> ugh...
#2189 [20:53] <xales> Sam: can you try connecting to 'smp.shadow-craft.net'?
#2190 [20:54] <bluejello> IDdisk_guy you can try without port-forwarding to see how it works out
#2191 [20:54] <thedude> yea but im tired of always changing the foward even tho its eazy thing i dont want to have to do it every doy or less
#2192 [20:54] <IDdisk_guy> i've been trying that for 2 days
#2193 [20:54] <thedude> day
#2194 [20:54] <IDdisk_guy> I can connect fine, but my friend cannot
#2195 [20:55] <thedude> idist make sure the port foward is right
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#2197 [20:55] <xales> IDdisk_guy: He is trying the correct IP, right?
#2198 [20:55] <bluejello> IDdisk_guy A reset of the router could work but do not take my word on it.
#2199 [20:55] <IDdisk_guy> Xales I'm using 192.168.1.1
#2200 [20:56] <Sam> humhumhum, I get bad login from server's
#2201 [20:56] <xales> IDdisk_guy: If your friend is trying to connect to that, it won't work. If you are able to connect to that...I'm amazed
#2202 [20:56] <xales> Sam: what username are you logging in with?
#2203 [20:56] <bluejello> IDdisk_guy he would have to use the external IP address of you're computer to access the server, if it is on your computer.
#2204 [20:56] <Sam> what do you mean?
#2205 [20:56] <bluejello> hosted that is*
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#2207 [20:57] <IDdisk_guy> No, I don't connect to that, I jut do localhost, but I give my friend my external IP, but i have to port forward it to have him connect
#2208 [20:57] <IDdisk_guy> which I can't exactly do right now
#2209 [20:57] <bluejello> IDdisk_guy what are the first two groups of numbers that you give him?
#2210 [20:57] <xales> Sam: when you log into Minecraft, what username do you use?
#2211 [20:57] <bluejello> in the IP address.
#2212 [20:57] <Sam> My minecraft username o.o
#2213 [20:58] <Sam> you want the specific username?
#2214 [20:58] <xales> Sam: yes
#2215 [20:58] <IDdisk_guy> 67.165
#2216 [20:58] <Sam> CampinSam
#2217 [20:58] <bluejello> IDdisk_guy yea that looks good.
#2218 [20:58] <xales> Sam: if it turns out you lie about this next question, I will not help you fix it
#2219 [20:59] <Sam> ok.
#2220 [20:59] <xales> have you at any point tried playing Minecraft without purchasing it
#2221 [20:59] <bluejello> IDdisk_guy to solve the problem you are having you probably will need to get a new router or something.
#2222 [20:59] <IDdisk_guy> UGH
#2223 [20:59] <Sam> No. I purchased it during alpha
#2224 [20:59] <xales> when you login, are you using 'Play Offline'?
#2225 [20:59] <IDdisk_guy> well then portforward.com needs to update their tutorial on port forwarding my model of router
#2226 [20:59] <Sam> not that I can tell
#2227 [21:00] <bluejello> occasionally I get bad login from a server, but that seems to be because It detects me as being logged into the server, normally from a crash.
#2228 [21:00] <Sam> sorry if I'm being a bit dumb o.o not the most network savvy
#2229 [21:00] <xales> ??> Sam win/reinst
#2230 [21:00] <VoxelHead> Sam: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2231 [21:00] <VoxelHead> Sam: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2232 [21:01] <Sam> Alright I'll do that
#2233 [21:03] <Sam> well, I can connect to a server, and get a flicker of it, and then it says connection reset
#2234 [21:03] <Sam> but I cannot connect to my own server at all
#2235 [21:04] <bluejello> sam can you check for fires?
#2236 [21:04] <Sam> humhum..
#2237 [21:04] <Sam> fires?
#2238 [21:04] <bluejello> sam that may be the problem, fires in minecraft itself.
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#2240 [21:04] <Sam> er..
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#2242 [21:04] <Sam> I don't quite understand
#2243 [21:05] <Dairyman> Can someone point me in the right direction for information on how to delete blocks (need to get rid of bedrock that glitched to the top of a mountain). I'm an admin on a server running bukkit. I've tried searching forums, but haven't had much luck. Thanks.
#2244 [21:05] <bluejello> sam but that is from what I think the error is caused from from the time I had it.
#2245 [21:05] <Sam> how can I check for "fires"
#2246 [21:05] <bluejello> sam so it probably is not the cause. I assume you have restarted the server?
#2247 [21:05] <Sam> yes
#2248 [21:05] <whitetiger1kitkit> Pieguy1 you alive?
#2249 [21:06] <bluejello> with a addon I assume, Do not run a server so my answers may end up badly worded or such
#2250 [21:06] <Sam> sometimes minecraft client straight up crashes, othertimes it gives me an error
#2251 [21:06] <Sam> singleplayer is fine though
#2252 [21:07] <bluejello> sam I am out of ideas for your problem. sorry
#2253 [21:07] <Sam> : /
#2254 [21:08] <Sam> interesting
#2255 [21:08] <Sam> I got a server to work
#2256 [21:09] <Sam> hmm
#2257 [21:09] <Sam> but I get disconnected after about 10 seconds
#2258 [21:09] <bluejello> error?
#2259 [21:09] <Sam> sec
#2260 [21:10] <Sam> says I get a connection reset now
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#2262 [21:11] <Sam> : /
#2263 [21:11] <bluejello> hmm, perhaps you have a bad internet connection... have you ever been able to connect to servers?
#2264 [21:11] <Sam> yes
#2265 [21:11] <Sam> it was a few versions ago, if that matters
#2266 [21:11] <Sam> as I don't usually play on too many minecraft servers
#2267 [21:12] <Sam> My internet connection isn't the best, but I have never had problems with anything
#2268 [21:12] <bluejello> yea, I am out of ideas for the time being
#2269 [21:12] <Sam> well shit : /
#2270 [21:13] <whitetiger1kitkit> Jello's brain power usage as a limt :3
#2271 [21:13] <bluejello> sometimes I think that...
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#2274 [21:19] <aetherian> I want an ibm model m keyboard with a dvorak layout...
#2275 [21:19] <bluejello> what? that is slightly... random
#2276 [21:20] <aetherian> no it isn't
#2277 [21:20] <whitetiger1kitkit> ...it is random.... just like me wanting cookies
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#2279 [21:20] <aetherian> 'twasn't
#2280 [21:20] <Afearot> hello
#2281 [21:21] <bluejello> may I inquire as to why?
#2282 [21:22] <aetherian> no.
#2283 [21:22] <aetherian> no you may not.
#2284 [21:22] <Sam> mechanical keyboards with blacks and browns are the best
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#2286 [21:27] <Afearot> I'm using an implies gate to switch a track piece and I'm having problems with the redstone torch deactivating after the after the power is applied to it.
#2287 [21:27] <Afearot> what can I do to fix this?
#2288 [21:27] <bluejello> I think redstone torches go dead when they get power
#2289 [21:28] <bluejello> but then come back when power is removed.
#2290 [21:28] <Afearot> +not deactivating
#2291 [21:28] <bluejello> or something like that, the wiki will do a much better job at explaining then me
#2292 [21:28] <Afearot> I've read that thing twice
#2293 [21:29] <Afearot> And I still don't understand what I can do :/
#2294 [21:29] <bluejello> well, it is much better help then I will be
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#2298 [21:35] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#2299 [21:36] <Jackson413> Kealper: you there mate?
#2300 [21:37] <bread> I'm here!
#2301 [21:37] <Jackson413> i want kealper
#2302 [21:37] <bread> >:|
#2303 [21:37] <Jackson413> i love you too though :D
#2304 [21:37] <bread> \o/
#2305 [21:38] <Jackson413> ./o\
#2306 [21:38] <Jackson413> |()|
#2307 [21:38] <bread> :o
#2308 [21:38] <Afearot> First when I step on the plate power is applied to the first torch and it deactivates thus activating the second one the problem is the first one doesn't reactivate and the second one stays off no matter what I do. Also it will work about 3 times after I've built it before it stops working...
#2309 [21:40] <bluejello> perhaps you are experincing torch burnout. but I have no idea besides that.
#2310 [21:41] <Afearot> yeah but that would explain if I place the second torch with power going it then cut the line and it stays off.
#2311 [21:41] <Afearot> *wouldn't
#2312 [21:41] <Jackson413> kealper here yet?
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#2314 [21:43] <neviklink> hi
#2315 [21:43] <Afearot> hi
#2316 [21:43] <neviklink> do you know any good server mods
#2317 [21:43] <neviklink> like ones to spwn mosnters?
#2318 [21:44] <bread> …
#2319 [21:45] <neviklink> or is there other server software?
#2320 [21:45] <neviklink> because i use mincraft .exe
#2321 [21:45] <neviklink> server softwarw
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#2323 [21:46] <bluejello> bukkit
#2324 [21:47] <bluejello> that is the main server mod, with capability for plugins
#2325 [21:47] <neviklink> u talking to me?
#2326 [21:47] <bluejello> but the one downloaded from minecraft is the only server software I know of
#2327 [21:47] <bluejello> and yes
#2328 [21:48] <Kealper> Jackson413: i'm busy >.>
#2329 [21:48] <neviklink> kealper
#2330 [21:48] <Mach1av3ll1> can anyone gift me? I want to give it to my girl but my prepaid card will not work
#2331 [21:49] * VoxelHead is back
#2331 [21:49] <neviklink> voxel
#2332 [21:49] <neviklink> is there any other mc server software out there
#2333 [21:49] <Kealper> vox is a bot lol
#2334 [21:50] <neviklink> fail
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#2336 [21:50] <neviklink> how am i supposed to know that
#2337 [21:51] <neviklink> yeah but is there
#2338 [21:51] <Kealper> depends
#2339 [21:51] <Kealper> and not the diapers
#2340 [21:51] <neviklink> because i was on a server and the guys could spwn items by typing the item name and they could spwn monsters
#2341 [21:52] <Kealper> that's just a mod called Bukkit for the normal server
#2342 [21:52] <neviklink> ohhhhh
#2343 [21:52] <neviklink> is it hard to installl
#2344 [21:52] <Kealper> not really
#2345 [21:52] <neviklink> where can i find it
#2346 [21:52] <Kealper> the channel #bukkit gives support for that
#2347 [21:53] <neviklink> is the mod on the mincraft site?
#2348 [21:54] <bluejello> no
#2349 [21:54] <bluejello> do a google search for it
#2350 [21:54] <bread> neviklink: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bukkit
#2351 [21:54] <bluejello> or use that.
#2352 [22:00] <Jackson413> kealper
#2353 [22:00] <Jackson413> check ur message
#2354 [22:01] <neviklink> ok i got it on now what
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#2357 [22:08] <pieguy1> i need help getting members on my server >.> any suggestions
#2358 [22:08] <bread> advertisement :D
#2359 [22:08] <bread> spam the link everywhere you're allowed to
#2360 [22:08] <bread> lol
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#2362 [22:10] <pieguy1> =o what about places im not alowed 2 ^.^ MUAHAHAHAHA .... "sigh
#2363 [22:10] <VoxelHead> Is it a fair fight... is this moose weilding any projectile weapons?
#2364 [22:10] <Kealper> neviklink: click this --> #bukkit
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#2366 [22:11] <Kokojo> Hello. I am banned from #minecraft even thought I never quite went there... any ideas why?
#2367 [22:12] <bluejello> because you could be?
#2368 [22:12] <bluejello> no, no ideas
#2369 [22:12] <Kokojo> Mmm
#2370 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Are you banned, or just unable to talk?
#2371 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you're in the channel just fine Kokojo, you may just need to register your nick
#2372 [22:13] <bread> He's in the channel.
#2373 [22:13] <bread> Yep.
#2374 [22:13] <dopeghoti> ??> Kokojo IRC
#2375 [22:13] <VoxelHead> Kokojo: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2376 [22:13] <Kokojo> Yup... I just realised that... Sorry for being stupid.
#2377 [22:13] <VoxelHead> Kokojo: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#2378 [22:14] <Kokojo> Thanks though :P
#2379 [22:15] <Blackthorne> Does anyone know how to stop the minecraft window from being deselected?
#2380 [22:15] <bread> Don't click somewhere else?
#2381 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate Blackthorne?
#2382 [22:15] <Blackthorne> I am mining. The window gets deselected.
#2383 [22:15] <Blackthorne> I have no idea what's causing it.
#2384 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Can you give us more info? What operating system are you on? How are you launching/running minecraft?
#2385 [22:16] <Blackthorne> xp, with the minecraft program.
#2386 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> The downloaded .exe?
#2387 [22:17] <Blackthorne> Yeah.
#2388 [22:17] <Blackthorne> Is there any sort of key combination that would do this on windows?
#2389 [22:17] <Blackthorne> Because it seems to happen when I'm moving and mining.
#2390 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> what button(s) are you pressing usually?
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#2392 [22:17] <Blackthorne> wasd
#2393 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Using shift or anything?
#2394 [22:18] <Blackthorne> Nope.
#2395 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> ctrl? alt?
#2396 [22:18] <bread> That happens to me when I'm on my laptop, using my mouse, and my touchpad isn't locked.
#2397 [22:18] <bread> (not in minecraft, but in general)
#2398 [22:18] <Blackthorne> I'm on a desktop.
#2399 [22:19] <Kokojo> Do you have firefox opened with some sort of game on it? It happened to me that minecraft and the game were like jointed into one and one movement controlled both.
#2400 [22:19] <Blackthorne> Nope.
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#2402 [22:26] <opouly> hey is any 1 need help finding a good smp server xP?
#2403 [22:27] <neviklink> i got one and i can spwn monster =P
#2404 [22:27] <opouly> =o dam
#2405 [22:27] <opouly> thwarted by admin powers
#2406 [22:28] <opouly> lolz i guess owning ur own is better >.>
#2407 [22:28] <neviklink> i just merciliseely slughterd 20 sheep
#2408 [22:28] <Whitetiger1kitkit> <_< >_>
#2409 [22:29] <neviklink> yep
#2410 [22:29] <Kealper> man
#2411 [22:29] <Kealper> Trine...
#2412 [22:29] <Kealper> was making me nerdrage so hard lol
#2413 [22:29] <bread> lol
#2414 [22:29] <bread> I wish that ran on my computer :(
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#2416 [22:29] <Kealper> ._.
#2417 [22:31] * aetherian eats all of Kealper's cake
#2417 [22:31] <bread> :O
#2418 [22:31] <neviklink> i tihnk pig zombies burn in sunlight
#2419 [22:31] <VoxelHead> well i'll be a monkey's imcle but it's nothing sexual
#2420 [22:32] <Kealper> lol
#2421 [22:32] <bread> lol vox
#2422 [22:32] <aetherian> wat
#2423 [22:32] * bread hugs VoxelHead
#2423 [22:32] <VoxelHead> uNf
#2424 [22:32] <bread> :o
#2425 [22:32] <neviklink> whats voxelhead
#2426 [22:32] <VoxelHead> wtf
#2427 [22:32] <bread> My best friend.
#2428 [22:33] <bluejello> one time I killed something like a thousand squid, or it was 100
#2429 [22:33] <bread> nine thousand and one.
#2430 [22:33] <bluejello> that was when I earnt they could take fall damage.
#2431 [22:33] <bluejello> also summoning 100 ghasts is not a good idea :P
#2432 [22:34] <bluejello> ssp commands
#2433 [22:35] <Blackthorne> The random deselecting has decided to stop.
#2434 [22:35] * neviklink hugs voxelhead
#2434 [22:35] <Blackthorne> Didn't change anything.
#2435 [22:35] <VoxelHead> *boing*
#2436 [22:35] <bread> lol
#2437 [22:35] * neviklink hugs aubot
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#2438 [22:35] * neviklink smacks aubot
#2438 [22:35] * neviklink hates aubot
#2438 [22:36] <neviklink> hahahhaha
#2439 [22:36] <VoxelHead> so... much... filth!
#2440 [22:36] * neviklink stabs aubot
#2440 [22:36] <neviklink> owwwww
#2441 [22:36] <VoxelHead> awww
#2442 [22:36] * bread noms on vox
#2442 [22:36] <VoxelHead> Mmmmm.
#2443 [22:36] * neviklink eats bread
#2443 [22:36] <bread> :|
#2444 [22:36] <neviklink> hahahha
#2445 [22:36] <Kealper> vox: eat neviklink
#2446 [22:37] <VoxelHead> *eats neviklink*
#2447 [22:37] <VoxelHead> Mmmmm... recursive.
#2448 [22:37] * neviklink eats voxelhead
#2448 [22:37] <VoxelHead> i do love a good neviklinking
#2449 [22:37] <bread> vox, courtmartial neviklink
#2450 [22:37] <neviklink> vox: kill bread
#2451 [22:37] * VoxelHead throws neviklink in the brig to await charges
#2451 [22:37] * VoxelHead slashes bread
#2451 [22:37] <bread> >:D
#2452 [22:37] <bread> D:<
#2453 [22:37] <neviklink> waht the heck do giants dooo
#2454 [22:38] <VoxelHead> Neviklink, you are charged with writing a character development episode, and phase-shifting several female Maquis crewmembers.
#2455 [22:38] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#2456 [22:38] <bread> >:|
#2457 [22:39] <neviklink> what the heck does tha mena
#2458 [22:39] <bread> You were charged with writing a character development episode, and phase-shifting several femaile Maquis crewmembers.
#2459 [22:39] <bread> But you were found innocent.
#2460 [22:40] <neviklink> the second part i mean
#2461 [22:41] <Kealper> star trek joke
#2462 [22:43] <neviklink> k
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#2464 [22:48] <neviklink> gahhh why is the giant following me?
#2465 [22:49] <fizyplankton> there are no giants in minecraft...
#2466 [22:49] <bread> lol
#2467 [22:49] <fizyplankton> unless you mean slimes. im that case MY GOD MAN WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING?!?!?!?!?!
#2468 [22:49] <bluejello> the slimes are evil
#2469 [22:50] <fizyplankton> not the small ones. they are cute
#2470 [22:50] <bluejello> specally in multiplayer 1.3
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#2472 [22:50] <bluejello> NO WAY TO GET RID OF THEM
#2473 [22:50] <bluejello> *hides in corner*
#2474 [22:50] <fizyplankton> reboot the server
#2475 [22:50] <bluejello> loging out and loging in works
#2476 [22:51] <fizyplankton> make a script that launches the server with out mobs for like 5 seconds and then shuts it down then relaunches it up with mobs on again
#2477 [22:51] <bluejello> but it gets annoying, when they can push you, and fall into lava.
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#2485 [23:04] <VoxelHead> mmm celestea
#2486 [23:07] * neviklink shags voxel
#2486 [23:07] <VoxelHead> blblbl
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#2488 [23:09] <bluejello> triangles.
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#2490 [23:19] * neviklink fucks voxelhead
#2490 [23:19] <VoxelHead> *spangle*
#2491 [23:19] * neviklink arrest jello
#2491 [23:20] <xales> VoxelHead, courtmartial neviklink
#2492 [23:20] * VoxelHead throws neviklink in the brig to await charges
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#2493 [23:20] <VoxelHead> Neviklink, you are charged with putting the entire crew into suspended animation, and having sex with Deep Space 9.
#2494 [23:20] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to find Geordi a date. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#2495 [23:21] <bread> LOL SEX WITH DEEP SPACE 9
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#2497 [23:21] <xales> bread: you mean you haven't? :O
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#2499 [23:22] <bread> lol
#2500 [23:22] <Gollsod> Hello, does anyone know why I can't connect to minecraft using the Minecraft client. I can only connect using the website.
#2501 [23:22] <Gollsod> THe game doens't even load using the client.
#2502 [23:22] <xales> Gollsod: What happens when you try? "Cannot connect to minecraft.net"?
#2503 [23:22] <Gollsod> Yes, sir.
#2504 [23:23] <xales> Check the time and date (especially the year) on your computer
#2505 [23:23] <xales> make sure it's correct
#2506 [23:23] <Gollsod> It's 1/1/2011..
#2507 [23:23] <Gollsod> Will that mess it up?
#2508 [23:23] <xales> Quite possibly
#2509 [23:23] <Gollsod> Alright, I'll change it in the Bios. Thank you very much.
#2510 [23:23] <Gollsod> =]
#2511 [23:23] <xales> You shouldn't need to
#2512 [23:23] <Gollsod> Byebye
#2513 [23:23] <xales> just change it in the OS should be the same
#2514 [23:23] <xales> <.<
#2515 [23:23] <Gollsod> Yeah, if I don't. I'll reset when I restart.
#2516 [23:23] <Gollsod> I've tried.
#2517 [23:24] <xales> O_o
#2518 [23:24] <Gollsod> I've overclocked it resently and had to reset bios. Didn't bother changing clock back.
#2519 [23:24] <Gollsod> I promis.
#2520 [23:24] <Gollsod> lol
#2521 [23:24] <Gollsod> =p
#2522 [23:24] <Gollsod> ANyway, Thanks again.
#2523 [23:24] <bluejello> wait, if you overclocked you should be good enough with computers to know what to do...
#2524 [23:25] <xales> these days, overclocking can be automatic
#2525 [23:25] <xales> you just have to press a button |:
#2526 [23:26] <bluejello> well, I have never overclocked or bought my own computer system, so what would I know :P
#2527 [23:27] <bluejello> My father is head of IT at a local college I go to same place I work at, so we have good computers, besides this one.
#2528 [23:28] <bluejello> both our computers are I7, but our newer one is 32 bit and has a graphics card, our older one is 64 bit but has no graphics card...
#2529 [23:28] <bluejello> yea
#2530 [23:30] <bluejello> also, flash games for facebook take up way to much system resources in my mind.
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#2536 [23:49] <VoxelHead> bye dduchaine
#2537 [23:49] <xales> hi VoxelHead
#2538 [23:49] <VoxelHead> y0 xales
#2539 [23:52] <VoxelHead> mmm crawn
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#2541 [23:56] <Razorflame> I want to build bridges between the mountaintops of three mountains, but I don't know how to build bridges in midair....can someone help me?
#2542 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Same way you start any construction, you start at one end, and work your way across
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#2544 [23:59] <oldtopman> Razorflame: Hold down shift and walk off of the edge. Place blocks beneath you.
#2545 [23:59] <Razorflame> Thanks