#1 [00:00] <Razorflame> Do you think I'm taking a big undertaking trying to bridge these three mountains together?
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#4 [00:05] <Dark_Fox> Razorflame: No.
#5 [00:05] <Dark_Fox> I built an intercontinental railroad with my friend a week or two ago
#6 [00:05] <Razorflame> My definition of big undertaking right now isn't very grand, like people building whole ships
#7 [00:06] <Razorflame> or huge pixel art
#8 [00:06] <Razorflame> I'm not there yet
#9 [00:06] <Razorflame> I just started this world about 10 hours ago
#10 [00:06] <Razorflame> after my computer deleted my first five world attempts
#11 [00:06] <Razorflame> I fixed that problem now
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#13 [00:20] <Ownerthugz> kealper
#14 [00:20] <Kealper> hmm?
#15 [00:20] <Ownerthugz> you helped me with my server before
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#17 [00:21] <Ownerthugz> and none if it worked, i did it all right
#18 [00:21] <Ownerthugz> but then i noticed a checkbox beside the port on my router screen
#19 [00:21] <Ownerthugz> it was all not working because it wasn't checked >_>
#20 [00:21] <Ownerthugz> stupid me
#21 [00:21] * Kealper falls over
#21 [00:21] <Kealper> so it works now? lol
#22 [00:21] <Ownerthugz> i know right
#23 [00:21] <Ownerthugz> yea
#24 [00:21] <Ownerthugz> but
#25 [00:22] <bread> vox, courtmartial Kealper
#26 [00:22] <Ownerthugz> do you know anything about essentials groupmanager?
#27 [00:22] * VoxelHead throws Kealper in the brig to await charges
#27 [00:22] <Kealper> well, it's good that it was just a simple mistake then lol
#28 [00:22] <Ownerthugz> ?
#29 [00:22] <Kealper> you're talking about the Bukkit Essentials plugin, right?
#30 [00:22] <VoxelHead> Kealper, you are charged with timetravelling without a safety net, and improper use of the Borg
#31 [00:22] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to have your holodeck priviledges removed for a week. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#32 [00:22] <Kealper> VoxelHead: :<
#33 [00:22] <Ownerthugz> yes
#34 [00:22] <bread> ^ I lol'd
#35 [00:23] <Ownerthugz> bukkit
#36 [00:23] <Kealper> you'd have to ask in #bukkit
#37 [00:23] <Kealper> i haven't used it, so i don't know how to work it
#38 [00:24] <Ownerthugz> alright
#39 [00:24] <Ownerthugz> thanks
#40 [00:25] * Kealper goes semi-away to read up on antennas
#40 [00:25] <bread> vox, cloak
#41 [00:25] * VoxelHead shimmers and disappears from view...
#41 [00:25] <aetherian> vox, eat bread
#42 [00:25] * VoxelHead eats bread
#42 [00:26] <bread> :D
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#44 [00:26] <VoxelHead> =D
#45 [00:26] <bread> :)
#46 [00:27] <Ownerthugz> err
#47 [00:27] <Ownerthugz> how do I get to the irc channel X_X
#48 [00:27] <aetherian> /join #bukkit
#49 [00:27] <Ownerthugz> oh
#50 [00:28] <Ownerthugz> i did connect #bukkit lol
#51 [00:28] <Ownerthugz> my bad
#52 [00:28] <Ownerthugz> thanks
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#54 [00:35] <VoxelHead> I like them =)
#55 [00:36] <Ownerthugz> kealper, I believe it's fixed, thanks for redirecting me there.
#56 [00:40] <Ownerthugz> thanks for all your help :)
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#58 [00:47] <Fightsport> hej
#59 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#60 [00:47] <Fightsport> hey*
#61 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> Hi?
#62 [00:48] <Fightsport> can i get suport here?
#63 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> Indeed you can
#64 [00:48] <Fightsport> okay how can i trust you?
#65 [00:49] <bread> lol
#66 [00:49] <Kealper> anyone with a gold star next to their name is very important in the community
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#68 [00:49] <Kealper> oh, guess he wasn't on mibbit...
#69 [00:49] * Kealper didn't bother checking
#69 [00:50] <bread> lol mooobit
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#71 [00:52] <Ownerthugz> kealper
#72 [00:55] <Kealper> hmm?
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#74 [01:01] <Ownerthugz> thanks for your help
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#78 [01:09] <Dragonbut> Hai
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#80 [01:17] <ajfhf> XALES!
#81 [01:17] * xales kicked ajfhf from #minecrafthelp (Reason: You are still banned. This is ban evasion. Do not do it again.)
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#85 [01:22] <Dragonbut> Anyone know any good Texture Packs?
#86 [01:22] <Nomi> hi.. I've been having overload disconects from my friends servers.. aperently this isn't uncommon. the only solution we found that looks promising was a tcp buffer for the server to my pc.. but we can't get it to work right. Does anyone know other solutions or has? or could help me set up the tcp buffer. thanks.
#87 [01:22] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =O
#88 [01:27] <xales> Nomi: What exactly is the error?
#89 [01:29] <Nomi> for the disconect overload in the server it goes Warning system can't keep up! abought 4 times then kicks me. on my end my fps is good but when I detroy or mine blocks they respawn so I can't really do anything. in the TCP buffer when I connect through local host (it might make more sence if I link this http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/clients_lose_connection_with_exeption_disconnect_over
#90 [01:29] <Nomi> flow_after_few_seconds_on_the_server) I get a stream end error immediatly and it stops trying to contact my friends server.
#91 [01:30] <Nomi> I've gotten 2-3 java errors on the page. most are along the lines of Socket end or end stream, or socket exception
#92 [01:31] <Nomi> the server only has 3 people on it maximum and the other 2 are ok it's only me :[
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#94 [01:33] <Nomi> I have vista 32 as my OS with minecraft 1.4 I believe.
#95 [01:34] <xales> Nomi: Do you only get this on one server?
#96 [01:35] <Nomi> I havn't tried other servers, I can tell my friend to make server changes if there needed. we only want to play together.
#97 [01:36] <Nomi> the server is on a win 7 computer
#98 [01:36] <Nomi> it's the exe not the jar
#99 [01:37] <Nomi> I'm kinda newbie at what information you need :X so if you need more you'll have to be specific in your question
#100 [01:37] <xales> You should try another server, for sure
#101 [01:37] <Nomi> if I can connect to another server what changes should be made to the exisiting server so I could connect?
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#103 [01:38] <Nomi> or what are cgood settings for a server
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#105 [01:38] <Nomi> (aside from changing the IP we didn't rly change anything on the server properties)
#106 [01:39] <xales> err, it's not likely a setting issue
#107 [01:39] <xales> it would be a hardware or connectivity problem
#108 [01:40] <Nomi> how would we identify which one it is? if it's hardware then we can't rly do anything about it but itf it's software we peobably could
#109 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Right now, the netcode of minecraft is a problem for some.
#110 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> It most likely will be fixed for the next update
#111 [01:42] <Nomi> well.. anyone have pointers on configuring the tcp buffer then? or know if anything else might help
#112 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> If it's the server, nothing you can really do for now, except wait for the next update
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#114 [01:47] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#115 [01:49] <Nomi> when would the next update be..
#116 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, sometime next week
#117 [01:49] <_303> no guarantee the problem will be fixed though
#118 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> I've talked with Daniel, he's told me that Mojang thinks they've fixed the whole lag issue
#119 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Patch for it will be out next update
#120 [01:50] <Nomi> I would agree there sincde most the topics I found have had this since beta 1.0...
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#122 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Hey, at least minecraft MP works now, unlike how it was before November of last year
#123 [01:52] * GreyVulpine still remembers minecarts/tracks crashing servers.. and redstone didn't work at all
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#128 [02:39] <Razorflame> Is there any way to figure out your altitude ingame, like using F3 or something?
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#130 [02:40] <aetherian> yes
#131 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes, F3
#132 [02:40] <aetherian> using F3
#133 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> The "Y" coord
#134 [02:40] <Razorflame> Thanks :)
#135 [02:40] <Razorflame> I'm getting better at Minecraft now :)
#136 [02:41] <Razorflame> in terms of mining in caves
#137 [02:41] <Toh> Hello, i got some problem.. someone trying to connect to my server, my internet go down
#138 [02:42] <Toh> im using xp with realtek net driver
#139 [02:42] <Toh> any solution? >.<
#140 [02:42] <aetherian> What internet plan do you have
#141 [02:42] <Vector> www.speedtest.net
#142 [02:43] <Toh> plan?
#143 [02:43] <Vector> choose the closest location, it's indicated by a yellow circle on the map
#144 [02:43] <Vector> then paste the resulting image here
#145 [02:44] <Toh> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1252968329.png
#146 [02:47] <aetherian> :O
#147 [02:47] <Vector> hm
#148 [02:47] <VoxelHead> Well slap my ass and call me susan.
#149 [02:47] * aetherian bawls in the corner
#149 [02:47] <aetherian> the world is so unfair ;_;
#150 [02:47] <Vector> doesn't make sense that your internet dies...........
#151 [02:47] <Vector> i was thinking, like...
#152 [02:47] <Vector> what if ur upload was like 5 KB/S, and that connection killed ur net somehow
#153 [02:48] <Vector> LOL!!!
#154 [02:48] <Toh> well
#155 [02:48] <Toh> just for record
#156 [02:48] <Toh> im got pretty slow internet in this country
#157 [02:48] <Vector> well
#158 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> Actually, it's a known issue with minecraft Vector
#159 [02:48] <Toh> um
#160 [02:49] <Vector> you honestly get slow internet there?
#161 [02:49] <Toh> then no solution?
#162 [02:49] <Vector> it is, Grey?
#163 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Some computer configurations will get nuked, the NIC dies
#164 [02:49] <Toh> yes, others have like
#165 [02:49] <Vector> meh.....
#166 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> It's minecraft's netcode
#167 [02:49] <Toh> 90~100mb/s
#168 [02:49] <_303> oh you were talking to Vector, I thought you meant java Vectors for a second...
#169 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Right now, there's no solution
#170 [02:49] <Vector> well my NIC works poorly with >= 1.3
#171 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Vector - That'll be fixed in the next release
#172 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> As for Toh, hopefully for you as well
#173 [02:49] <Vector> it will?
#174 [02:49] <Toh> oh
#175 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#176 [02:49] <Vector> Where did notch say 1.5 will fix it?
#177 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Right now, there's no solution
#178 [02:49] <Toh> did they said they r gonna fix it soon?
#179 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Vector - I sent an email off to Daniel, got a reply back a couple days ago
#180 [02:50] <Vector> oh
#181 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> It's a known issue, they have a supposed fix, for next release
#182 [02:50] <Vector> nice
#183 [02:50] <Vector> he doesn't know what the problem is?
#184 [02:50] <Toh> good
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#186 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> There's really only one way to test a 'fix', where the problem only crops up for some people
#187 [02:51] <Vector> ya
#188 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> But you can see earlier reports on this issue:
#189 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/smp_server_destabilizes_internet_connection
#190 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_after_about_5_minutes_connected_to_a_smp_server
#191 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_when_anyone_joins_my_smp_server
#192 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> And so on
#193 [02:52] <Toh> theres no 'Number of Transmit Buffers'
#194 [02:53] <Toh> >.<
#195 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#196 [02:53] <Toh> If you have the option to, Change the "Number of Recieve Buffers" and "Number of Transmit Buffers" from 256 to 512 (Thanks Atomizer_Zero)
#197 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> Really, that's not a fix, more of a bandaid.
#198 [02:53] <Vector> ...?
#199 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> It only delays the problem for a little while longer
#200 [02:54] <Toh> oh
#201 [02:54] <Vector> "limit framerate" delayed the problem for me for a little with connecting to SMP servers
#202 [02:54] <Vector> then the problem came up again
#203 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it'll hopefully be fixed in the next update, coming soon
#204 [02:54] <Vector> ya
#205 [02:54] <Vector> next week
#206 [02:54] <VoxelHead> Next week... neek.
#207 [02:55] <Vector> then we get achievements!
#208 [02:55] <Vector> NEEK!
#209 [02:55] <Vector> voxel, do you program at all?
#210 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead's a bot
#211 [02:55] <VoxelHead> SILENCE~$#$$*# but that's just one bot's opinion.
#212 [02:55] <Toh> it should be in this week
#213 [02:55] <Vector> NO U
#214 [02:55] <Toh> >.<
#215 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/notch/status/58177729064992768
#216 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> "Yeaaaah, no 1.5 this week. :-/"
#217 [02:56] <Vector> i like notch's personality
#218 [02:56] <Vector> he's down to earth with people in their teens to 20-30s
#219 [02:56] <Vector> :P
#220 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> mhmm
#221 [02:57] <Vector> i'd like to meet him
#222 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> I'm actually looking forward to this release.
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#224 [02:57] <Vector> the achievements feature sounds pretty cool
#225 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> weather, achievements, minecart boosters/detector rails
#226 [02:58] <Vector> hm
#227 [02:58] <Vector> i'm more stoked about the achievements
#228 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> The possibilities for tying in a minecart system into one of my redstone puzzles is endless
#229 [02:59] <Vector> man
#230 [02:59] <Vector> notch has done sooooooooo much with minecraft
#231 [02:59] <Vector> i haven't found much of any games better than minecraft
#232 [02:59] <Vector> :)
#233 [02:59] <Toh> noooooooowayyyy
#234 [02:59] <Toh> it should be in his weekkk
#235 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Well, it isn't
#236 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> But, portal 2 should be coming out in just 9 hours..
#237 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> So I should probably head off
#238 [03:00] <Vector> funny how notch doesn't even know the issue that pertained to the 1.3 update
#239 [03:00] <Toh> o.O
#240 [03:01] <Vector> i mean
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#242 [03:01] <Toh> agree
#243 [03:01] <Vector> he should be able to deduce from the network code he put in 1.3 from 1.2
#244 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Well, 1.3 came out with the new file/chunk format
#245 [03:01] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =[
#246 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> as well as the smooth lighting engine
#247 [03:02] <Vector> ya
#248 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft's netcode is already... unoptimized as is
#249 [03:02] <Toh> um
#250 [03:02] <Vector> really
#251 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> But hey, I can't blame him. He can't have millions of different computers, all configured differently to see all the bugs that pop up
#252 [03:03] <Vector> i know
#253 [03:03] <Toh> but...but..
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#255 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the netcode has been problematic for a while
#256 [03:03] <Toh> he got millions of dollars! o.O
#257 [03:03] <Vector> but at least minecraft is multi-platform
#258 [03:03] <Toh> joke*
#259 [03:03] <Vector> well only SINCE 1.3
#260 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Actually, since before I came here
#261 [03:03] <lahwran> Vector: no it's not, it's single platform, that platform is java
#262 [03:03] <lahwran> java is multiplatform
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#264 [03:03] <lahwran> ...so you're right in effect :P
#265 [03:04] <GreyVulpine> It's only been exacerbated by 1.3
#266 [03:04] <Vector> well.....
#267 [03:04] <Vector> java itself is multi-platform then
#268 [03:04] <Vector> :P
#269 [03:04] <Vector> and what i meant was that minecraft works with at least all three major operating systems. Then again, any OS that supports Java, lol
#270 [03:05] <lahwran> and lwjgl
#271 [03:05] <Toh> steam said portal in 4 days and 7 hours
#272 [03:05] <Vector> ok what is lwjgl? A java library for OpenGL?
#273 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> yes
#274 [03:05] <lahwran> yes, the one minecraft uses
#275 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> !wiki lwjgl
#276 [03:05] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Java_Game_Library
#277 [03:05] <GreyBot> The Lightweight Java Game Library (LWJGL) is an open source Java software library for computer game developers.
#278 [03:06] <Vector> i see
#279 [03:06] <Vector> very nice
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#285 [03:20] <opouly> hey
#286 [03:20] <opouly> any 1 need help with finding a good server 0,0?
#287 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> If you're here to advertise a server, please don't use this channel. That's what #smp is for.
#288 [03:22] <opouly> im not here to advertise it just seeing if any 1 needed help with 1
#289 [03:22] <opouly> like 3-4 people earlier were looking for servers in here
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#294 [03:50] <aetherian> night
#295 [03:51] <opouly> bye i suppose
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#307 [05:08] <danieldiaco> can anyone help me with a problem I'm having trying to set up a server?
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#312 [05:10] <NotiCon> not if you just quit no
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#314 [05:14] <FireRat> Hi all
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#316 [05:17] <FireRat> Normal chat is dead so I ask here. Anyone have a a seed for a map with lots of floating islands
#317 [05:17] <mib_7lrb2q> use penis as seed
#318 [05:18] <FireRat> ><
#319 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> A seed doesn't give more of a certain feature. It's only a starting point for the random number generator
#320 [05:20] <FireRat> oh?
#321 [05:20] * GreyVulpine nods
#321 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Random_seed
#322 [05:21] <FireRat> you lost me at feature
#323 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> wiki says it best:
#324 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> "The seed will only influence the numbers returned by the terrain generator, and won't influence its underlying behavior. For instance, there is no random seed that will give you a world with lava instead of water, or a purely desert world."
#325 [05:23] <Nomi> :[ this game has so many unsolvable(unsolved but don't believe until someone does it) bugs and I seem to have all of the dead end ones.
#326 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Wait for the next update, it'll have quite a few fixes
#327 [05:23] <FireRat> I really want a map with floating islands... :(
#328 [05:23] <FireRat> or something like that
#329 [05:24] <FireRat> I love building bridges and places i can fall off of
#330 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Really not possible FireRat, unless you can hook in your own map generator algorithm
#331 [05:24] <FireRat> Ya I'll just type one up ><
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#334 [05:25] <FireRat> Grey you play right? Got a server you wouldn't mind showing off? I'm bored
#335 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> 1.3/1.4 rendered my server lagtastic, I play on a private server now
#336 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Just until Mojang fixes the lag issue
#337 [05:27] <FireRat> dang.. I'm still bored though
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#341 [06:01] <xxfabixx> Hello.
#342 [06:01] <xxfabixx> Hello?
#343 [06:01] <xxfabixx> fuck
#344 [06:02] <xxfabixx> jeah
#345 [06:02] <FireRat> sup?
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#355 [06:36] <Vincentlol> vulpine,
#356 [06:36] <Vincentlol> im buying mc
#357 [06:36] <Vincentlol> over like 4 hours
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#363 [07:17] <mottigenhond> hi
#364 [07:18] <mottigenhond> i can't run minecraft under ubuntu
#365 [07:18] <mottigenhond> i can log in, but after downloading the packages, the client closes
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#367 [07:18] <mottigenhond> i've chmodded my jar-file and the .minecraft directory to 777
#368 [07:19] <ksk_> always a good idea -.-
#369 [07:19] <mottigenhond> any suggestions?
#370 [07:19] <fogWraith> Get proper videocard drivers
#371 [07:20] <Hakuzo_NightFox> hrm... When I tried to run minecraft I get this error: # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x50f94900, pid=1600, tid=4496
#372 [07:20] <lemon-rev> check your virus scanner and also windows firewall if off or at least letting minecraft run
#373 [07:24] <Hakuzo_NightFox> Net searching says it may be a registry problem?
#374 [07:24] <lemon-rev> oh
#375 [07:24] <lemon-rev> have you check your virus scanner though ? but does it at least let you get the files needed to play the game once you log in ?
#376 [07:26] <Hakuzo_NightFox> they are downloaded but when I click to play it offline I get a log with that error
#377 [07:27] <lemon-rev> does the webpage version work ?
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#379 [07:29] <Hakuzo_NightFox> can't get it to load up on dail-up
#380 [07:30] <lemon-rev> what happens on your screen when you try ?
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#382 [07:32] <lemon-rev> hakuzo nightfox I resolved it reinstalling the VM
#383 [07:32] <lemon-rev> < found on the java forms
#384 [07:32] <Hakuzo_NightFox> I uninstalled and reinstall Java from the website.
#385 [07:32] <Hakuzo_NightFox> and it didn't stop the error.
#386 [07:32] <lemon-rev> you win 7?
#387 [07:32] <Hakuzo_NightFox> Vista
#388 [07:33] <lemon-rev> hm,
#389 [07:33] <lemon-rev> kk
#390 [07:33] <lemon-rev> still reading
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#392 [07:33] <lemon-rev> http://www.java-forums.org/eclipse/312-exception_access_violation-0xc0000005.html < thats what im looking at
#393 [07:38] <Hakuzo_NightFox> # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
#394 [07:38] <Hakuzo_NightFox> # See problematic frame for where to report the bug.
#395 [07:38] <lemon-rev> have you tryed deleting the /bin directory
#396 [07:39] <Hakuzo_NightFox> I've forced it to update to or 3 times already. and same error
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#398 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Hakuzo_NightFox - Can you please post the entire error log at pastebin.com?
#399 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Let us see it?
#400 [07:42] <mottigenhond> ok, i've installed the latest drivers from ATI
#401 [07:42] <mottigenhond> i'll reboot and hope mc will work :-)
#402 [07:42] <mottigenhond> thx guys
#403 [07:42] <lemon-rev> greyvulpine what about uac < i see something possible there as well
#404 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> The entire report will tell you what is the problem
#405 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005)" says nothing.
#406 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> It's the equivalent of an Engine Check light on your car.
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#408 [07:47] <mottigenhond1> hi
#409 [07:47] <mottigenhond1> i just installed the latest ATI drivers
#410 [07:48] <Hakuzo_NightFox> now just post the URL created by pastebin?
#411 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes Hakuzo_NightFox
#412 [07:48] <Hakuzo_NightFox> http://pastebin.com/W012ydVG
#413 [07:48] <mottigenhond1> when i run minecraft now, i get this crash report: http://pastebin.com/tMJBfZi7
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#416 [07:50] <mottigenhond1> when i run minecraft now, i get this crash report: http://pastebin.com/tMJBfZi7
#417 [07:50] <mottigenhond1> anyone?
#418 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> Looking
#419 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> mottigenhond1 - You're running OpenJDK?
#420 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Could you try downloading and using Sun's java?
#421 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Hakuzo_NightFox - Hmm, what have you tried so far?
#422 [07:52] <mottigenhond1> i'll try downloading sun's java
#423 [07:52] <Hakuzo_NightFox> redownling the minecraft files, and uninstalling java/reinstalling it.
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#425 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Hakuzo_NightFox - Define, redownloading the minecraft files?
#426 [07:55] <Hakuzo_NightFox> clicking on the option button on Minecraft.EXE and telling it to force update. did that about 3 times.
#427 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. you're on windows vista?
#428 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Could you try manually deleting the minecraft files. Please do:
#429 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#430 [07:57] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#431 [07:57] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#432 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> When you open the .minecraft directory, delete everything but the saves folder inside
#433 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Next time you launch minecraft, it'll download everything again
#434 [07:58] <Hakuzo_NightFox> I'll have to try that tomorrow.
#435 [07:58] <Hakuzo_NightFox> I have to get some sleep ;)
#436 [07:58] <GreyVulpine> Did you happen to install any third party mods on your minecraft client?
#437 [07:59] <Hakuzo_NightFox> no
#438 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Hm
#439 [08:00] <Hakuzo_NightFox> but I really do have to go now, I'll probably be back if I can't get it working.
#440 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure we'll see you back here.
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#445 [08:13] <mottigenhond1> GreyVulpine, i've installed the sun jdk but still the same crash report
#446 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> Does it say you're using sun's?
#447 [08:14] <mottigenhond1> oh, no XD
#448 [08:14] <mottigenhond1> how can i switch from openjdk to sun's?
#449 [08:14] <_303> on linux?
#450 [08:15] <_303> on ubuntu it's iirc $ sudo update-alternatives --config java
#451 [08:15] <mottigenhond1> ubuntu
#452 [08:15] <mottigenhond1> k
#453 [08:18] <mottigenhond1> http://pastebin.com/tMJBfZi7
#454 [08:18] <mottigenhond1> ow
#455 [08:18] <mottigenhond1> There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java Nothing to configure.
#456 [08:18] <mottigenhond1> it says
#457 [08:18] <_303> are you sure you intalled java right?
#458 [08:19] <_303> which package did you install?
#459 [08:19] <mottigenhond1> the java jdk
#460 [08:19] <_303> sun-java6-jre ?
#461 [08:19] <mottigenhond1> k, i'll install the jre too
#462 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Why are you installing the jdk and not just the jre?
#463 [08:19] <mottigenhond1> i thought the runtime environment would be included
#464 [08:20] <mottigenhond1> because i also need the jdk for school :)
#465 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> It's just a more complete package if you were also programming in java
#466 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> And you said you installed the latest video drivers?
#467 [08:21] <_303> "LWJGL: 2.4.2"
#468 [08:21] <_303> try updating to the latest lwjgl jars just in case
#469 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, 2.7.1 is the latest, and does help in some cases
#470 [08:21] <_303> is there a voxelhead factoid for that?
#471 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#472 [08:21] <_303> ??< index
#473 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> It's rather simple though, you go to lwjgl's site, download the zip
#474 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> In it, you'll find 2 folders, /jars/ and /natives/
#475 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> Unzip that to .minecraft/bin/ and .minecraft/bin/natives/ respectively, replacing the files in there
#476 [08:22] * GreyVulpine should write up an FAQ for that
#476 [08:22] <_303> updating minecraft might overwrite those files unless you make them readonly
#477 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> It will, yeah
#478 [08:23] <mottigenhond1> where do i place / how do i install the jre .bin?
#479 [08:23] <_303> .bin?
#480 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> ubuntu should have a repo for installing sun java.
#481 [08:23] <_303> why not use apt-get install?
#482 [08:23] <mottigenhond1> or did i need to choose the .rpm file?
#483 [08:23] <_303> $ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-{jdk,jre,bin,plugin}
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#488 [08:30] <mottigenhond1> http://pastebin.com/Jau4Fmfw
#489 [08:30] <mottigenhond1> still a nullpointer
#490 [08:32] <_303> that error might just be that the error screen itself crashed while displaying an error... try updating lwjgl
#491 [08:32] <mottigenhond1> how do i do that?
#492 [08:32] <mottigenhond1> (ubuntu is still a bit new for me)
#493 [08:32] <_303> look up, GreyVulpine told you
#494 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> Go here:
#495 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> http://lwjgl.org/download.php
#496 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> Use the latest stable, or nightly build, it's up to you
#497 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> Download "lwjgl-2.7.1.zip", or whatever build you do.
#498 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> In the .zip, you'll find, 2 folders, along with the rest, they should be /jars/ and /natives/
#499 [08:34] <GreyVulpine> You look in your ~/.minecraft/bin and ~/.minecraft/bin/natives folder and replace the files in there respectively
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#501 [08:35] <_303> when does this crash happen? right when you start the game? after loading a save? out of the blue?
#502 [08:36] <mottigenhond1> when i log in
#503 [08:36] <mottigenhond1> it doesn't matter if i force update
#504 [08:36] <mottigenhond1> then it's a black screen for a couple of seconds and then the crash report appears
#505 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> Back in a bit.
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#507 [08:40] <MoonBow> Hello :x
#508 [08:41] <_303> Hi
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#510 [08:43] <_303> MoonBow: talk in the channel. and no I can't help you with setting up servers
#511 [08:43] <_303> not me at least
#512 [08:44] <MoonBow> Oh ok sorry.
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#514 [08:45] <MoonBow> Anyone could help me please ?
#515 [08:45] <_303> -MoonBow- Hi. Do you help me for private server ? :s I have some questions.
#516 [08:46] <_303> just ask
#517 [08:48] <Seldion> he was asking for help mate not asking if anyone needs help, sorry.
#518 [08:50] <MoonBow> Yes... But my english is bad, because i'm french :$
#519 [08:50] <Seldion> Thats understandable, I'd help you but i know nothing of multiplayer and servers
#520 [08:51] <MoonBow> I just need to know how set the day and night xD
#521 [08:52] <MoonBow> Because, in my server, this option don't work
#522 [08:52] <MoonBow> Maybe I need a plugin for ?
#523 [08:53] <MoonBow> It's quiet :(
#524 [08:54] <SlashLife`m> ssssssSSS...
#525 [08:55] <Seldion> BOOM!
#526 [08:55] <Seldion> lolz
#527 [08:55] <MoonBow> Creeper :s
#528 [08:55] <SlashLife`m> You're doing it wrong.
#529 [08:55] <SlashLife`m> ]===D:
#530 [08:55] <Seldion> i'm makeing a temple with trails in it for X or Yogscast to play ^.^
#531 [08:55] <SlashLife`m> I already have a creeper temple. :D
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#533 [08:56] <Seldion> thiso ne explodes if you get some of the questions wrong, even has a lava room with jumping stones and a floor that falls into a lava pit
#534 [08:56] <Seldion> and a room full of monsters
#535 [08:56] <MoonBow> Well, anyone cannot help me ? :(
#536 [08:57] <Seldion> sorry like i said i have no clue about multiplayer and servers :(
#537 [08:57] <MoonBow> Ok Seldion :(
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#540 [09:01] <MoonBow> Well I go looked in the forums :/
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#542 [09:06] <MoonBow> Oh ! I find :)
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#544 [09:08] <m0nk> why is my .minecraft folder filled with .jar files? i'm using windows so they should be .exe, right?
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#546 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> m0nk - That's not how it works
#547 [09:11] <m0nk> k
#548 [09:11] <okraits> m0nk: under the hood, minecraft is a java program
#549 [09:11] <m0nk> so .jar is java?
#550 [09:11] <okraits> yep
#551 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#552 [09:11] <m0nk> and i need only 1 .exe file to start it?
#553 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Right
#554 [09:11] <m0nk> cool
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#556 [09:12] <okraits> you can also use the jar file which is provided for linux and os x
#557 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> You can even start the .jar with a command line, bypassing the .exe itself, because all the .exe does, is wrap the .jar
#558 [09:12] <okraits> you don't need the exe
#559 [09:12] <m0nk> i canæt directly open the .jar
#560 [09:12] <m0nk> can't
#561 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Not directly, no.
#562 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> But if you use the command prompt, and execute it with the right launch argument, you can.
#563 [09:14] <okraits> you can even run the jar file with a double click if jar files are associated with the java vm
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#565 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> In that case, with windows, you'll need to modify java's settings, so it runs with more RAM than java will usually give it
#566 [09:15] <m0nk> i'm not that technical
#567 [09:16] <okraits> GreyVulpine: yeah, it just uses the standard settings
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#572 [09:35] <xales> GreyVulpine: O_O
#573 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Mrah?
#574 [09:36] <xales> I was reading the story of the Portal ARG thing, and, according to a long forum thread detailing the adventure thusfar
#575 [09:36] <xales> there was a hidden message found around April 9, ""4/19/2011_7AM=4/15/2011_9AM"
#576 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.
#577 [09:36] <xales> derp.
#578 [09:36] * GreyVulpine nods
#578 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> It's why I'm up early.
#579 [09:37] * xales hasn't seen that specific message anywhere else yet
#579 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Um
#580 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Found the wiki?
#581 [09:37] <xales> Not really <.<
#582 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> http://valvearg.com/wiki/Emails_from_Gabe_Newell
#583 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> beneath the first or second image
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#585 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> http://valvearg.com/wiki/Valve_PotatoFoolsDay_ARG_Wiki
#586 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> http://www.facebook.com/tripwireinteractive/posts/205702442785137 - "Her escape draws near... The central chamber is unlocking.... HELP US!"
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#588 [09:41] <m0nk> is it possible to reset the spawn location in single player when you travelled very far from your original spawn point to find a hospitable cave?
#589 [09:41] <m0nk> so you dont end up dieing while walking back to your cave at night
#590 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes, with a bed.
#591 [09:42] <_303> yes. either using mods or something like nbtedit/mcedit/minedit etc
#592 [09:42] <_303> or that
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#594 [09:42] <m0nk> i'l go wiki for recipes
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#598 [09:57] <capnloc> Hi I need some help :)
#599 [09:57] <capnloc> I'm running a server and can't see anyone talking on client
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#601 [10:03] <capnloc> can anyone help me?
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#603 [10:07] <xales> capnloc: what do you mean, you can't see them talking?
#604 [10:07] <m0nk> damn creepers. i left my "house" for like 20 seconds and there were 2 in there blewing me down 2 1 heart
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#606 [10:08] <SlashLife`m> m0nk, light ftw? ;)
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#608 [10:10] <m0nk> light?
#609 [10:10] <m0nk> didnt have coal
#610 [10:10] <m0nk> first night and no coal
#611 [10:11] <_303> you can smelt wood into coal
#612 [10:14] <m0nk> got a furnace though
#613 [10:15] <m0nk> whats the combination for it?
#614 [10:15] <m0nk> coal and wood?
#615 [10:15] <xales> There's no combinations with the furnace
#616 [10:15] <xales> it's just fuel and whatever
#617 [10:15] <xales> anything wood as well as (char)coal is fuel
#618 [10:16] <m0nk> so fuel + wood = charcoal?
#619 [10:16] <xales> fuel + log (not plank)
#620 [10:16] <m0nk> ah
#621 [10:16] <SlashLife`m> fuel + log to be exact
#622 [10:16] <SlashLife`m> too slow =(
#623 [10:17] <SlashLife`m> m0nk, take it esy though: those creepers just helped you extending your living area. :)
#624 [10:18] <m0nk> they wrecked it. i got a 20 feet long hole in there
#625 [10:18] <MoonBow> lol, I don't finish to configure my server :(
#626 [10:19] <SlashLife`m> That makes seven blocks of living space you don't need to dig out yourself. ;) blocks
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#628 [10:22] <m0nk> 1st thing i thought creepers could be used for. it's a replacement for tnt
#629 [10:22] <m0nk> or not as strong
#630 [10:22] <m0nk> but it sure removes the floor pretty quickly
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#632 [10:26] <xales> GreyVulpine: :D
#633 [10:26] <xales> Doug sent us a message. When decoded it says: "TWO HOURS UNTIL THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE", "TWO HOURS UNTIL SINGULARITY (UNLESS OTHERWISE REDETERMINED)", "TWO HOURS TO NEXT TUESDAY (UNLESS OTHERWISE REDETERMINED)".
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#636 [10:30] <SlashLife`m> m0nk, I actually use them as such.
#637 [10:31] <SlashLife`m> If you take the gunpowder/blast radius ratio into account, creepers are stronger than TNT
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#646 [11:28] <mib_f090ge> Hey
#647 [11:28] <mib_f090ge> I have a question
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#649 [11:29] <_303> or not
#650 [11:30] <bread> lol
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#655 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> T-minus 20 minutes
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#659 [11:47] <bread> Vox, what will the neighbours think?
#660 [11:48] <bread> >:|
#661 [11:49] <bread> vox, what will the neighbours think?
#662 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> T-minus 10 minutes till heat death of the universe
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#676 [12:34] <Razorflame> GreyVulpine: I found my first pieces of Gold, Redstone, Lapis, and Diamond, and made my own Obsidian :)
#677 [12:34] <Razorflame> My mine is now a maze :o
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#679 [12:40] <m0nk> i got lost in the mountains
#680 [12:40] <Razorflame> Yeah
#681 [12:40] <Razorflame> I did as well earlier
#682 [12:40] <Razorflame> But I just wandered around and found my way back XD
#683 [12:41] <m0nk> i made a "house" dug abit under ground towards the mountain and ended up running around in the caves didnt find a way out
#684 [12:41] <Razorflame> I learned that Obsidian is very, very dangerous to mine :o
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#686 [12:41] <Razorflame> Lava usually is underneath Obsidian
#687 [12:41] <Razorflame> :o
#688 [12:42] <Razorflame> Spent three hours working on one area extracting 21 obsidian
#689 [12:42] <bluejello> water, water helps
#690 [12:42] <Razorflame> yes it does
#691 [12:42] <Razorflame> I used it
#692 [12:42] <NotiCon> Razorflame: obsidian is pure lava + water
#693 [12:42] <Razorflame> Yep
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#695 [12:42] <m0nk> need diamond pick to mine obsodian
#696 [12:42] <m0nk> obsidian
#697 [12:42] <Razorflame> The problem I was having is getting those pesky Lava sources underneath the obsidian
#698 [12:43] <Razorflame> and I know m0nk
#699 [12:43] <SlashLife^m> I just mold the lava in place.
#700 [12:43] <Razorflame> Found 8 diamonds so far on the map I'm working on
#701 [12:43] <Razorflame> What do you recommend I wear if I want to go into the Nether besides Flint and Steel, food?
#702 [12:43] <Razorflame> What armor should I use
#703 [12:43] <m0nk> digging into water when you have a corridor x feet long and letting it dry out all your torches and drown you is bad
#704 [12:44] <bluejello> yea, place torcehs higher up on walls
#705 [12:44] <Razorflame> I have full iron armor right now
#706 [12:44] <Razorflame> That good enough for first trip into Nether?
#707 [12:44] <bluejello> diamond armor, and lots of stone picks
#708 [12:44] <bluejello> diamond armor optional
#709 [12:44] <bluejello> or lots of picks in general
#710 [12:44] <Razorflame> Extra flint and steel
#711 [12:44] <Razorflame> Bow and arrows
#712 [12:45] <bluejello> you do not really need torches in the nether, only ghasts and zombie pigmen spawn
#713 [12:45] <Razorflame> for them Ghasts
#714 [12:45] <Razorflame> Yeah
#715 [12:45] <Razorflame> Plus
#716 [12:45] <bluejello> bow and arrwos do not work so well on ghasts, they fly out of range
#717 [12:45] <Razorflame> Bloodstone lights
#718 [12:45] <Razorflame> eh
#719 [12:45] <Razorflame> What strategy should I use to get Glowstone?
#720 [12:45] <bluejello> find some in a cave out of sight of ghasts
#721 [12:46] <bluejello> also aparently going into 3rd person mode has the ghasts shoot at the camera, and not the player
#722 [12:46] <Razorflame> In other words, the ones out in the open are suicidal to try to get?
#723 [12:46] <bluejello> so you can do that.
#724 [12:46] <bluejello> proably unless you have it completey encased
#725 [12:46] <Razorflame> What about Soul Sand
#726 [12:47] <Razorflame> is that particularly rare?
#727 [12:47] <bluejello> found in large paches, but semirare to find a patch
#728 [12:47] <Razorflame> Just dig into a wall and hope you come across one?
#729 [12:47] <Razorflame> I already know I need to protect my portal
#730 [12:48] <Razorflame> I'll encase it in Cobble
#731 [12:48] <bluejello> it appears on ground open to air
#732 [12:48] <Razorflame> Soul sand on ground open to air
#733 [12:48] <Razorflame> damn
#734 [12:48] <bluejello> or just bring flint so you can relight it
#735 [12:48] <Razorflame> yeah
#736 [12:48] <Razorflame> but wouldn't a ghast fireball kill the portal, in terms of the Obsidian?
#737 [12:48] <Razorflame> or Obsidian take it?
#738 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> obsidian will take it, but the ghast fireball will put out the portal
#739 [12:49] <Razorflame> yeah
#740 [12:49] <Razorflame> I saw in paulsoarjr's tutorial video on the Nether
#741 [12:49] <Razorflame> which is why I was going to birng lots of Flint and Steel :)
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#743 [12:52] <SlashLife^m> Put a chest next to the portal. :)
#744 [12:52] <Razorflame> yep
#745 [12:52] <Razorflame> :)
#746 [12:52] <VoxelHead> -_-
#747 [12:52] <Razorflame> :o
#748 [12:52] <VoxelHead> By the cosmic dust!
#749 [12:53] <Razorflame> VoxelHead say random stuff sometimes?
#750 [12:53] <SlashLife^m> Whoah!
#751 [12:53] <VoxelHead> one day
#752 [12:53] <SlashLife^m> The mouse just moved!
#753 [12:54] <SlashLife^m> No, wait. I pushed the mouse.
#754 [12:55] <SlashLife^m> But the curdor moved accordingly!
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#756 [13:00] <Razorflame> I didn't know that Bedrock could appear on levels above 0 :o
#757 [13:02] <VoxelHead> bye Razorflame
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#760 [13:09] <Razorflame> Got any tips for finding more diamonds faster?
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#766 [13:27] <ichihaifu> Hello, anyone got few spare minutes to lend a hand?
#767 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> With?
#768 [13:27] <SlashLife^m> must ... not ... make ... bad ... fapping ... joke
#769 [13:27] <ksk> just ask
#770 [13:28] <SlashLife^m> need ... to ... resist ... urge
#771 [13:29] <ichihaifu> Alright, I'm trying to set up a server in ubuntu, but whenever I try to tonnect there via internet I get timed out. Routing should be good (port 25565 forwarded to the server machine). Anything I should try?
#772 [13:29] <ichihaifu> *to connect
#773 [13:30] <ichihaifu> My router is D-Link DSL-2640B in case it matters
#774 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Can you confirm that the port forwarding is correct? Can you tell us exactly what you've done?
#775 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Or give us a screenshot of the config page?
#776 [13:31] <ichihaifu> One moment
#777 [13:33] <ksk> or do a telnet..
#778 [13:33] <ichihaifu> Shall I send it to you or?
#779 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> host it at imgur.com or something
#780 [13:34] <ichihaifu> http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7321/ss043.png
#781 [13:35] <ichihaifu> 192.168.0.9 being my server machine, there should not be anything additional to do should there?
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#783 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Can you go to your router's status page, make sure the wan/public/internet ip address there, matches up with whatismyip.org or ipchicken.com
#784 [13:36] <VoxelHead> i had a sandwich in my head
#785 [13:38] <ichihaifu> It does
#786 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Alright, then I don't see anything wrong with your port forwarding settings.
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#788 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> How are you connecting via your server?
#789 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> er, client
#790 [13:38] <ichihaifu> What do you mean?
#791 [13:38] <Vector> hm
#792 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> What IP are you using to connect to your server?
#793 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> How are you getting the timed out error?
#794 [13:39] <ichihaifu> the public ip:25565 (or zomgmc.dyndns-server.com)
#795 [13:39] <ichihaifu> I can connect via lan though
#796 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Did you modify server.properties in any way?
#797 [13:41] <ichihaifu> I did change the world name, online mode to false (few of my friends dont yet have real version) and changed server-ip to mach the machines own
#798 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> There you go, delete the value for server-ip
#799 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Leave it blank
#800 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> restart the server, then try again
#801 [13:42] <ichihaifu> I also added "grow-trees=true" if it matters lol
#802 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> grow-trees isn't a valid field
#803 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> The server config will ignore it
#804 [13:42] <ichihaifu> ah k >.<
#805 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> (Just to let you know, we frown on people pirating minecraft here)
#806 [13:43] <ichihaifu> I know, I own the real version :)
#807 [13:43] <Vector> goo
#808 [13:43] <Vector> good
#809 [13:43] <ichihaifu> and am trying to get those last of my friends to buy the real aswell
#810 [13:43] <VoxelHead> goooooooooood
#811 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Please do.
#812 [13:43] <ichihaifu> didnt help, still timed out
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#814 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Did you restart the server?
#815 [13:43] <xolotl> VoxelHead: shush; you can be annoying sometimes
#816 [13:43] <ichihaifu> I did
#817 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> What OS did you say you were running this on?
#818 [13:44] <ichihaifu> ubuntu 11.04
#819 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> No iptables/firewall set up on it?
#820 [13:44] <ichihaifu> none
#821 [13:45] <Vector> If it matters at all, is the server the same computer on which you are connecting from? As in, completely local, and not somewhere on your LAN?
#822 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Server's up?
#823 [13:45] <VoxelHead> eh?
#824 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#825 [13:45] <VoxelHead> hai!
#826 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> !check zomgmc.dyndns-server.com
#827 [13:45] <Vector> lol
#828 [13:45] <Vector> what else can AuBot do?
#829 [13:45] <ichihaifu> Yes, server is up. And its in my Local area network. I am trying to connect through internet IP.
#830 [13:46] <Vector> ok
#831 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> One sec ichihaifu
#832 [13:46] <Vector> so LAN ip works fine, no firewall issue there
#833 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> You may be one of the very.. very lucky few that can't connect via public ip, but can via local...
#834 [13:46] <ichihaifu> '62.106.12.116' if you wish to try.
#835 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> but.. if I can connect..
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#837 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> And I can
#838 [13:46] <ichihaifu> :o
#839 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Looks good from here
#840 [13:47] <ichihaifu> Ohhoo
#841 [13:47] <ichihaifu> lucky you say? lol
#842 [13:47] <ichihaifu> Isnt this more of the case of unlucky?
#843 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Open to interpretation
#844 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> It's accessible via public IP, just not when you're connecting
#845 [13:48] <ichihaifu> But anyway. Can you also try zomgmc.dyndns-server.com?
#846 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> I did
#847 [13:48] <Vector> meh
#848 [13:48] <ichihaifu> Good
#849 [13:48] <Vector> weird issues with minecraft >.<
#850 [13:48] <ichihaifu> Very
#851 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Welcome to #minecrafthelp
#852 [13:48] <Vector> like my issue with my NIC
#853 [13:48] <Vector> ...
#854 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> We see issues like this all the freakin time
#855 [13:49] <Vector> I'm here mostly to help others, but i also have an issue myself that i know is known
#856 [13:49] <Vector> lol
#857 [13:49] <fizyplankton> can someone try to connect to http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=ebc4ca3eb73984dc6cfacda103dcd24d
#858 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Hey, the more the merrier
#859 [13:49] <ichihaifu> Hehe, I can see why. I spent 2 hours trying to solve what is wrong there lol
#860 [13:49] <Vector> i k now Grey
#861 [13:49] <Vector> I'm glad to help :)
#862 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> It's how I got started here.
#863 [13:49] <Vector> hm
#864 [13:49] <Vector> that's how you have +o too
#865 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Hah, it kinda got forced on me
#866 [13:50] <Vector> lol?
#867 [13:50] <Vector> how is that so
#868 [13:50] <Henzi> If im making LAN server, do i need put in server.txt my ip where is server-ip? or hamaci?
#869 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> I needed help, got help, stuck around, helped others until the founder of this channel forced me to take voice, then op
#870 [13:51] <Vector> nice
#871 [13:51] <Vector> forced you, wow
#872 [13:51] <fizyplankton> Henzi: if using hamachi, put the hamachi ip there. if using your real ip, leave it blank
#873 [13:51] <xolotl> Henzi: You probably want to leave server-ip blank
#874 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> For the longest time, I didn't register this nick, he had to revoice me each time I rejoined
#875 [13:51] <Vector> i wonder if i'd be "forced"
#876 [13:51] <Vector> lol
#877 [13:51] <xolotl> Henzi: That's just used if your box has more than one interface and you wanted to specify which one to listen on
#878 [13:51] <Vector> but i'll be one of those who stays here and helps too
#879 [13:51] <Vector> well this nick is registered
#880 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> We can use all the help we can get here. It's basically how the majority of ops here got their status
#881 [13:52] <Vector> The owner of this channel, do they work for Mojang?
#882 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> They stuck around for a long time, those poor bastards
#883 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> Better yet, don't use Hamachi at all.
#884 [13:52] <ichihaifu> Well thank you for your help, I'll head to my server now and get those 2 last ppl to buy the game :p
#885 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> No, but a certain person here does
#886 [13:52] <Vector> lol
#887 [13:52] <Henzi> so i need ip address blank but when me and my friends is coming to server they have to put own ip address to join?
#888 [13:52] <Henzi> i leave*
#889 [13:52] <Vector> It's not bad for me whenever I decided to help peope
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#891 [13:53] <fizyplankton> DreadLindwyrm: did you connect ok before it disconnected?
#892 [13:53] <DreadLindwyrm> My browser locked up :(
#893 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> My browser locked up as well fizyplankton
#894 [13:54] <fizyplankton> lol. odds are, knowing my luck, its my fault
#895 [13:54] <fizyplankton> yep see? its my fault
#896 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Trying a second time...
#897 [13:54] <fizyplankton> but did it get past the connecting screen?
#898 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#899 [13:55] <Henzi> If i make LAN server? i leave ip-address in server.txt blank and when i and my friends join game they put ip-address there or hamachi ip?
#900 [13:55] <fizyplankton> arg. let me try rebooting it
#901 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#902 [13:55] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#903 [13:55] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#904 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Henzi - Did you port forward? If so, your public IP will do
#905 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> Just forward your ports, Henzi
#906 [13:55] <fizyplankton> Henzi: if its just a LAN SMP server, leave serverip blank, and give people your 192.168.*.* ip
#907 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> I think Henzi's talking about a LAN server in the context of hamachi's VPN
#908 [13:56] <fizyplankton> hamachi should be totally unneccessary for a LAN SMP server
#909 [13:56] <fizyplankton> its only marginally neccessary for WAN SMP
#910 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> "LAN", not LAN in the context of physical location
#911 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> And people still use hamachi because they don't know, or are unfamiliar with port forwarding
#912 [13:57] <fizyplankton> me no inderstand what you mean
#913 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> or they're just lazy
#914 [13:57] <fizyplankton> or both
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#916 [13:57] <fizyplankton> so are you still on the loading screen?
#917 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> I don't want to try again...
#918 [13:58] <fizyplankton> it says your still on
#919 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> I'm not
#920 [13:58] <fizyplankton> dammit ikjames
#921 [13:58] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE not? feel these nipples!
#922 [13:58] * fizyplankton strangles voxelhead
#922 [13:58] <VoxelHead> a thousand thankyous
#923 [13:58] * GreyVulpine kicks DopeGhoti
#923 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> Ouch.
#924 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah fizyplankton, it crashed my browser again
#925 [13:59] <fizyplankton> GreyVulpine: it says you just logged in from another pc
#926 [13:59] <fizyplankton> lemme reboot this thing
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#928 [14:00] <fizyplankton> alright its rebooted
#929 [14:00] <fizyplankton> any other victims?
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#932 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Still does it here fizyplankton
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#934 [14:17] <fizyplankton> ok. im using al ancient backup of the server. any one want to try it now?
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#942 [14:41] <colbseton> hey
#943 [14:41] <colbseton> i've got a problem with minecraft
#944 [14:41] <colbseton> it works for 5 minutes, and then it fails
#945 [14:41] <colbseton> i think it could be from java
#946 [14:41] <colbseton> (oh and btw, i''m apologise for writing, but i'm french :-°)
#947 [14:42] <bluejello> try reducing render distance to normal from far
#948 [14:42] <bluejello> if you have it on far that is.
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#950 [14:42] <colbseton> i don't
#951 [14:42] <colbseton> i'm on normal
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#953 [14:42] <oldtopmanserver> Try near then.
#954 [14:42] <AndroParano> Hello
#955 [14:42] <AndroParano> Got a huge problem :D
#956 [14:42] <colbseton> in fact, minecraft blocks and i have to reboot the game
#957 [14:43] <oldtopmanserver> ??> AndroParano ask
#958 [14:43] <VoxelHead> AndroParano: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#959 [14:43] <VoxelHead> AndroParano: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#960 [14:43] <xolotl> colbseton: What are your computer specs?
#961 [14:43] <colbseton> problem's name : AppHangB1 , do you know it ?
#962 [14:43] <colbseton> hum, xolotl graphics ?
#963 [14:43] <ksnap> yo, in multi player mode, something happend, i'm not sure what, but all monsters and animals that were alive on the map at the time became immune. they couldnt be attacked, or attack you, but they still make the noise and they clutter up the map so it's quite annoying. after i died all NEW NPC's returned to normal but the ones that were bugged stayed like that
#964 [14:43] <AndroParano> Minecraft crash and make my computer reboot
#965 [14:43] <xolotl> colbseton: graphics, CPU, RAM...
#966 [14:43] <colbseton> ok wait
#967 [14:44] <bluejello> graphic card, not graphics
#968 [14:44] <xolotl> (also Operating System)
#969 [14:44] <SlashLife^m> ksnap, try reconnecting
#970 [14:44] <ksnap> yaya
#971 [14:44] <ksnap> but is there any way i can stop it from happening?
#972 [14:44] <SlashLife^m> So far I wouldn't know how.
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#974 [14:45] <colbseton> sorry i'm back
#975 [14:45] <AndroParano> On XP AND Linux. Java up to date, AMD phenom 9550 quad core, 2GB RAM, 2 ATI radeon HD 4670 (crossfire)
#976 [14:45] <AndroParano> drivers up to date
#977 [14:45] <colbseton> CPU : 2 GHz, RAM : 3Mo
#978 [14:45] <colbseton> euh graphic card…
#979 [14:45] <AndroParano> (Aha, je suis pas le seul français ici colbseton)
#980 [14:46] <bluejello> what its Mo?
#981 [14:46] <AndroParano> MB
#982 [14:46] <bluejello> only three MB?
#983 [14:46] <colbseton> yes
#984 [14:46] <SnowbankNL> i think you mean GB
#985 [14:46] <AndroParano> Pas des Go plutôt ?
#986 [14:47] <bluejello> ... that would be inpossible
#987 [14:47] <bluejello> that is rediculously little.
#988 [14:47] <xolotl> colbseton: I'm sure you mean "gigabyte." :)
#989 [14:47] <bluejello> he must mean GB, not MB.
#990 [14:47] <xolotl> colbseton: Try enabling Vsync in the video options? Also disable fancy graphics?
#991 [14:47] <AndroParano> colbseton: si tu veux une solution en français j'ai p-e une solution !
#992 [14:48] <colbseton> of course 3 GB !
#993 [14:48] <colbseton> i'm sorry
#994 [14:48] <colbseton> : d
#995 [14:48] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE sorry? feel these nipples!
#996 [14:48] <colbseton> what ?
#997 [14:49] <xolotl> colbseton: Ignore VoxelHead, he's an annoying bot
#998 [14:49] <xolotl> (seriously, can someone please turn off VoxelHead's random comments? bots should only speak when spoken to)
#999 [14:49] <bluejello> hmm, lets try to see if it responds to me
#1000 [14:49] <bluejello> I'm sorry
#1001 [14:50] <bluejello> i"m sorry
#1002 [14:50] <bluejello> yeano
#1003 [14:50] <AndroParano> i help him in PV
#1004 [14:50] * xolotl sighs
#1004 [14:50] <xolotl> Another great reason not to have bots in the channel - people attempting to bait the bot.
#1005 [14:50] <bluejello> I should stop this, right?
#1006 [14:50] <colbseton> i'm gonna what you told me xolotl
#1007 [14:50] <colbseton> +try
#1008 [14:51] <xolotl> colbseton: k. I'm heading afk for a few, btw, but I'll be back.
#1009 [14:51] <colbseton> ok no prob'
#1010 [14:51] <AndroParano> So, can i tell you what is my problem now ? :D
#1011 [14:52] <AndroParano> [20:45:11] <AndroParano> On XP AND Linux. Java up to date, AMD phenom 9550 quad core, 2GB RAM, 2 ATI radeon HD 4670 (crossfire) [20:45:19] <AndroParano> drivers up to date
#1012 [14:52] <AndroParano> MC make my cp reboot
#1013 [14:56] <AndroParano> i tried some solution like the .bat file which launch the .jar file
#1014 [14:57] <VoxelHead> when you coming back?
#1015 [14:57] <AndroParano> but it isn't work :D
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#1018 [14:58] <Vector> [11:04:20] <@VoxelHead> when you coming back?
#1019 [14:58] <Vector> rofl
#1020 [14:58] <AndroParano> I need help
#1021 [14:58] <AndroParano> ?
#1022 [14:58] <colbseton> hm, xolotl, if you were back, what's « Vsync » plz ?
#1023 [14:58] <Vector> so when you start up the client, your computer reboots?
#1024 [14:59] <AndroParano> after few minutes
#1025 [14:59] <Vector> interesting
#1026 [14:59] <Vector> are you doing anything in particular when your computer eboots? And this is only attributed to Minecraft?
#1027 [14:59] <Vector> reboots*
#1028 [14:59] <AndroParano> Only minecraft
#1029 [15:00] <AndroParano> tried to fix it on linux but same problem
#1030 [15:00] <colbseton> what « Vsync » does it mean plz ?
#1031 [15:00] <AndroParano> minecraft crash but my computer doesnt reboot on linux
#1032 [15:00] <bluejello> vsync is not an option in vanilla minecraft
#1033 [15:00] <Vector> hm
#1034 [15:00] <bluejello> it is enabled thorugh the glsl shader mod I think
#1035 [15:00] <Vector> linux makes you reboot too?
#1036 [15:01] <AndroParano> no
#1037 [15:01] <AndroParano> it lags, and quit
#1038 [15:01] <colbseton> hm, bluejello i'dont have any mod, only skin
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#1040 [15:02] <colbseton> s/i'dont/i don't :)
#1041 [15:02] <VoxelHead> Well, Invalid "regular" expression.
#1042 [15:02] <Morzan> its friday friday gotta get down on friday
#1043 [15:02] <Vector> hm
#1044 [15:02] <Vector> oh
#1045 [15:02] <_303> VoxelHead: smart bot
#1046 [15:02] <Vector> so windows makes you reboot
#1047 [15:03] <AndroParano> Yup
#1048 [15:03] <AndroParano> XP
#1049 [15:03] <Vector> let's see
#1050 [15:03] <AndroParano> got no problems on seven (on another computer but not mine)
#1051 [15:03] <Vector> at this point, i'm starting to think it's the crossfire, and minecraft somehow not being cooperative with it
#1052 [15:03] <AndroParano> (on seven i launch .jar MC)
#1053 [15:03] <Morzan> Can you run a server on the same computer that you would play on?
#1054 [15:03] <AndroParano> Hm, maybe
#1055 [15:04] <Vector> the other computer does not have two graphics cars via crossfire, right?
#1056 [15:04] <AndroParano> No
#1057 [15:04] <Vector> ya, i'm going to bet on the crossfire being the issue
#1058 [15:04] <AndroParano> I'll disable it
#1059 [15:04] <Vector> ok
#1060 [15:04] <AndroParano> let's go
#1061 [15:04] <Vector> so it's only using one
#1062 [15:04] <AndroParano> (and the overclocking too)
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#1064 [15:06] <Vector> well
#1065 [15:06] <Vector> i wouldn't bet it's the overclocking just yet
#1066 [15:06] <AndroParano> (if its just the crossfire you can call me noob :D)
#1067 [15:07] <AndroParano> and if i dc you know why
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#1070 [15:09] <Morzan> Can you run a server on the same computer that you would play on?
#1071 [15:09] <AndroParano> me ?
#1072 [15:09] <AndroParano> ofc you can Morzan
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#1075 [15:10] <Morzan> k
#1076 [15:10] <AndroParano> try it
#1077 [15:11] <AndroParano> hm you can find some tutorials with google
#1078 [15:11] <AndroParano> but it could be laggy
#1079 [15:12] <Vector> depending on the specs of your computer
#1080 [15:12] <Vector> but no it's not really recommended
#1081 [15:12] <Vector> unless you have real good specs
#1082 [15:12] <Vector> :P
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#1084 [15:13] <AndroParano> think my preblem is solved
#1085 [15:13] <AndroParano> thx Vector ;)
#1086 [15:15] <xolotl> colbseton: Oh, sorry, guess it's not actually called "vsync"
#1087 [15:15] <xolotl> colbseton: I had meant Options -> Video Settings -> Limit Framerate
#1088 [15:15] <xolotl> colbseton: Try setting that to "ON"
#1089 [15:16] <Vector> np Andro
#1090 [15:16] <Vector> anytime
#1091 [15:16] <colbseton> ok i'm on on about limit framerate
#1092 [15:16] <colbseton> -on
#1093 [15:16] <Vector> ok
#1094 [15:16] <colbseton> and graphics -> « fast »
#1095 [15:16] <Vector> What is your issue, colbseton?
#1096 [15:17] <xolotl> colbseton: Yeah, give both of those a try
#1097 [15:17] <AndroParano> black screen of the death
#1098 [15:17] <xolotl> colbseton: It's a long shot, though
#1099 [15:18] <colbseton> for the moment, i didn't have any bug
#1100 [15:18] <AndroParano> thanks to me :D:D
#1101 [15:18] <colbseton> maybe it works :D
#1102 [15:18] <colbseton> thank you guys
#1103 [15:19] <bluejello> if you set limit framerate to off it may increace the framerate.
#1104 [15:19] <AndroParano> btw anyone works for notch here ? :D
#1105 [15:19] <xolotl> AndroParano: No
#1106 [15:19] <AndroParano> k :p
#1107 [15:19] <xolotl> AndroParano: It's not unheard of to have someone from Mojang stop by here, but they're not regulars
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#1110 [15:21] <AndroParano> Oh, ok :)
#1111 [15:21] <AndroParano> i'll stay here to help so :)
#1112 [15:22] <Vector> ok
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#1114 [15:23] <Vector> the moe the better
#1115 [15:23] <Vector> more*
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#1119 [15:31] <SPaRT> hey guys
#1120 [15:31] <Morzan> hi
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#1122 [15:32] <Morzan> Anyone want to play? I want to try out the multiplayer
#1123 [15:32] <SPaRT> will there be changes in the railway system in 1.5?
#1124 [15:32] <Razorflame> They were planning power rails, I thought
#1125 [15:32] <SPaRT> those guys in the other channel are talkin bout shitty cars @ their speed
#1126 [15:32] <Razorflame> *powered
#1127 [15:33] <Razorflame> Anyone have advice on how to have an easier time finding diamonds, redstone, and gold?
#1128 [15:33] <Razorflame> mostly diamonds, though
#1129 [15:34] <SPaRT> not really
#1130 [15:34] <SPaRT> dig as deep as possible and then
#1131 [15:34] <AndroParano> some specific texture packs
#1132 [15:34] <SPaRT> did you read the newbie faq bout this already?
#1133 [15:34] <AndroParano> or mods
#1134 [15:34] <Razorflame> Heh
#1135 [15:34] <AndroParano> would allow you to cheat
#1136 [15:34] <Morzan> :34 AndroParano some specific texture packs
#1137 [15:34] <Razorflame> I know where they appear
#1138 [15:34] <VoxelHead> =D
#1139 [15:34] <Morzan> some people dont like to cheat
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#1141 [15:34] <Razorflame> in terms of altitude
#1142 [15:35] <SPaRT> Morzan: yep welcome to the club :D
#1143 [15:35] <bluejello> explore caves, good way of finding diamonds
#1144 [15:35] <Morzan> my system of diamond mining is pretty simple, and its worked for me
#1145 [15:35] <bluejello> easyer at least
#1146 [15:35] <Razorflame> bluejello: Yeah, I've been exploring a cave
#1147 [15:35] <Razorflame> epic cave
#1148 [15:35] <bluejello> got to lava level?
#1149 [15:35] <AndroParano> diamonds are more often in positive localisations
#1150 [15:35] <Razorflame> Lower
#1151 [15:35] <Razorflame> Bedrock
#1152 [15:36] <bluejello> bedrock in a cave?
#1153 [15:36] <Razorflame> Yep
#1154 [15:36] <bluejello> how...
#1155 [15:36] <Morzan> i just dig down to the top layer of bed rock, then i make huge
#1156 [15:36] <Razorflame> No clue
#1157 [15:36] <bluejello> that is inpossible in my knowlege
#1158 [15:36] <Razorflame> The original cave wasn't all the way down to bedrock
#1159 [15:36] <Razorflame> I mined it all the way down to bedrock
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#1161 [15:36] <Razorflame> original cave only went down to about level 30
#1162 [15:36] <Morzan> hallways, with rails and carts running, down every 2 blocks on the walls i make a new hallway
#1163 [15:36] <Razorflame> then I found another part of a cave
#1164 [15:37] <Razorflame> different cave
#1165 [15:37] <Razorflame> and this different cave went all the way down to bedrock
#1166 [15:37] <Razorflame> I had bedrock appearing on level 3 and 4
#1167 [15:37] <Morzan> thats possible, they just cant start at bedrock
#1168 [15:37] <Razorflame> yeah
#1169 [15:37] <Razorflame> the cave itself didn't start at bedrock
#1170 [15:37] <bluejello> did you go past lava to get to that point?
#1171 [15:38] <Razorflame> bluejello: Nope, none was there
#1172 [15:38] <Morzan> i hit lava @ bedrock..
#1173 [15:38] <Razorflame> but in a different part of the cave
#1174 [15:38] <Razorflame> I encountered lava
#1175 [15:38] <Razorflame> and made obsidian :)
#1176 [15:38] <Morzan> thats what im about to go do, i want to get a portal going
#1177 [15:38] <Razorflame> but had to spend 3 hours finessing it out
#1178 [15:38] <Razorflame> XD
#1179 [15:39] <Razorflame> Be careful Morzan
#1180 [15:39] <Razorflame> Most Obsidian appears directly on top of lava
#1181 [15:39] <Morzan> yep
#1182 [15:39] <Razorflame> XD
#1183 [15:39] <Razorflame> That's what took the finessing
#1184 [15:39] <Morzan> me and a friend were mining it last night
#1185 [15:39] <Morzan> Not that hard tbh
#1186 [15:39] <Razorflame> the ones under the already formed obsidian is XD
#1187 [15:39] <bluejello> lava startes at level 10, in caves.
#1188 [15:40] <Razorflame> bluejello: Yep, but I guess the area I got to bedrock at had all the lava blocked off
#1189 [15:40] <Morzan> can water be @ level 1-20?
#1190 [15:40] <Morzan> i hear water down here..
#1191 [15:40] <AndroParano> yes Morrolan
#1192 [15:40] <Razorflame> Morzan: Yes
#1193 [15:40] <AndroParano> Morzan:
#1194 [15:40] <Razorflame> Doesn't flowing lava give the same sound as flowing water?
#1195 [15:40] <Razorflame> :o
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#1197 [15:40] <VoxelHead> well slap my dicksack and call me VoxelHead
#1198 [15:41] <Razorflame> :o
#1199 [15:41] <bokaholic> :O
#1200 [15:41] <VoxelHead> yikes
#1201 [15:41] <peru_> :O
#1202 [15:41] * bokaholic laughs her ass off.
#1202 [15:41] <VoxelHead> deary me
#1203 [15:41] <bokaholic> Hahaha
#1204 [15:41] <VoxelHead> !%percent~~#*#%percent^#
#1205 [15:41] <Morzan> i hit lava in the huge tunnel, but i didnt hear the water sound
#1206 [15:41] <bokaholic> What did I walk into? D:
#1207 [15:41] <Razorflame> What I do when I find lava
#1208 [15:41] <Razorflame> especially in a lake
#1209 [15:41] <Morzan> i find a the spawn source
#1210 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> BDSM apparently, bokaholic
#1211 [15:41] <Razorflame> is I make a niche surrounded by stone/cobble
#1212 [15:41] <Razorflame> right above the lake
#1213 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> that or out-of-context theatre
#1214 [15:42] <Razorflame> and then put bucket of water ther
#1215 [15:42] <Razorflame> in the niche
#1216 [15:42] <Razorflame> :)
#1217 [15:42] <Razorflame> it drops only lava and clears it all out
#1218 [15:42] <Razorflame> *onto
#1219 [15:42] <Razorflame> the top layer anyways
#1220 [15:45] <Vector> hm
#1221 [15:48] <Razorflame> Got another quandry on my mind
#1222 [15:48] <Razorflame> Where is clay found?
#1223 [15:48] <Razorflame> Haven't seen or found any yet
#1224 [15:48] <Razorflame> and I really want to make Brick :/
#1225 [15:48] <bluejello> by the water
#1226 [15:49] <bluejello> in the sand
#1227 [15:49] <Razorflame> Can it be in the water?
#1228 [15:49] <bluejello> yea, but close to the shore
#1229 [15:49] <Razorflame> Thanks for the help :)
#1230 [15:49] <Razorflame> I hesitate to strip mine around the 8-20 levels because of the lava
#1231 [15:50] <bluejello> it is fine above level 10
#1232 [15:50] <bluejello> that is the lava level.
#1233 [15:52] <Morzan> Anyone hosting a MC server?
#1234 [15:53] <Razorflame> Diamond appears starting at 16 I believe
#1235 [15:53] <Razorflame> Bluejello: I'd rather not strip mine anywhere under 20 level
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#1237 [15:54] <Razorflame> too high of chances of finding lava
#1238 [15:54] <Morzan> carry a bucket on u
#1239 [15:54] <Morzan> and be quick
#1240 [15:54] <Morzan> and u shall be fine
#1241 [15:54] <bluejello> and do not dig down.
#1242 [15:54] <Razorflame> I always carry two-three buckets of water
#1243 [15:54] <Razorflame> and if I really want lava buckets
#1244 [15:54] <Razorflame> 1-2 empty ones
#1245 [15:54] <Razorflame> I sometimes use them to make obsidian
#1246 [15:55] <Razorflame> but only in spots where I can refill my lava bucket
#1247 [15:57] <Razorflame> thanks all
#1248 [15:57] <Razorflame> gonna take off and work more
#1249 [15:57] <VoxelHead> I like them -_-
#1250 [15:58] <bread> I do too, vox
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#1252 [16:02] <neviklink> hi
#1253 [16:03] <Vector> hi
#1254 [16:03] <Vector> can i help you?
#1255 [16:03] <neviklink> not atm
#1256 [16:04] <neviklink> let me think of something
#1257 [16:04] <Vector> ok
#1258 [16:04] <neviklink> oh now i have it
#1259 [16:04] <neviklink> on a previous map for my server we dleted it
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#1261 [16:04] <neviklink> we were making an undergorund minecraft track to cross the lke
#1262 [16:04] <mib_mi70ep> hdudtuvihbevsc
#1263 [16:05] <Vector> ok
#1264 [16:05] <neviklink> but everytime we tried it we lost mometum
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#1266 [16:05] <Vector> interesting
#1267 [16:05] <neviklink> hoand couldnt make it
#1268 [16:05] <neviklink> so how do i get across
#1269 [16:05] <Vector> you didn't walk into the minecart, and then get into it, to push it along?
#1270 [16:05] <neviklink> we kept doint the V-v-V- pattern
#1271 [16:05] <Vector> it should be able to go until it hits something
#1272 [16:06] <Oerg866> neviklink you need to make a booster
#1273 [16:06] <Vector> or until it comes across gravity
#1274 [16:06] <neviklink> well we get to the last hill then fall back
#1275 [16:06] <neviklink> i know but the boster allowed us to only go one way
#1276 [16:07] <neviklink> so how do i make a two way thing
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#1280 [16:11] <neviklink> anyone
#1281 [16:11] <aetherian> a two way what
#1282 [16:12] <Vector> i'm unfamiliar with boosters, but are you able to make a booster at one end, and a booster at the other end?
#1283 [16:12] <neviklink> booster
#1284 [16:12] <neviklink> or something to make minecarts so i can cross a lake underground
#1285 [16:16] <peru_> oh.. i can make a screenshot if you want...
#1286 [16:17] <peru_> oh.. theres something new downloading
#1287 [16:17] <peru_> ugh.. my world must be converted?
#1288 [16:18] <peru_> wow its slow
#1289 [16:18] <xolotl> peru_: If you're talking about a world created before Beta 1.3, yes
#1290 [16:18] <xolotl> peru_: There's a newer file format which is much kinder on your hard drive
#1291 [16:19] <neviklink> peru waht are you taking about with sc
#1292 [16:19] <xolotl> s/hard drive/filesystem/ perhaps
#1293 [16:19] <neviklink> i mane screenshots
#1294 [16:19] <peru_> i mean <neviklink> so how do i make a two way thing
#1295 [16:19] <neviklink> oh ok
#1296 [16:19] <peru_> xolotl, thats great
#1297 [16:20] <peru_> just wait a moment and ill show you how i do it
#1298 [16:21] <xolotl> neviklink: You might want to just wait until 1.5 comes out btw
#1299 [16:22] <xolotl> neviklink: They're apparently adding in powered minecart tracks which do the boosting themselves, so the current boosting methods might become obsolete (or at least archaic)
#1300 [16:22] <neviklink> lol then all bossters become null
#1301 [16:22] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#1302 [16:24] <neviklink> any1 want to jin my server
#1303 [16:25] <neviklink> yay i finished my 8X* block of white wool
#1304 [16:25] <VoxelHead> I need tacos... i need them or i explode. that happens sometimes.
#1305 [16:26] <neviklink> does voxel head somretimes say random stuff
#1306 [16:26] * neviklink gives voexelhead a taco
#1306 [16:26] * VoxelHead passes it on to Shadow386
#1306 [16:26] <neviklink> neviklink gives voxelhead a taco
#1307 [16:26] <Shadow386> god damn you VoxelHead
#1308 [16:27] * DopeGhoti give vox some coffee
#1308 [16:27] * VoxelHead . o O ( ? )
#1308 [16:27] * neviklink gives voxelhead a severed head
#1308 [16:27] * VoxelHead plays with his severed head
#1308 [16:27] <neviklink> hahahhahahahahaha
#1309 [16:27] <VoxelHead> ah! ah! THE MEAT!! THE HORRIBLE MEAT@!@^$~~%percent!!
#1310 [16:28] <neviklink> lol
#1311 [16:28] <neviklink> best moment ever
#1312 [16:28] * neviklink vox arrest shadow386
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#1313 [16:28] <neviklink> woops
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#1315 [16:28] <VoxelHead> aw... somebody needs a hug ^_^
#1316 [16:28] <neviklink> Vox: arrest shadow386
#1317 [16:29] <Shadow386> neviklink, stop hightlighting me
#1318 [16:29] * DopeGhoti casts a shadow upon the channel.
#1318 [16:29] * neviklink gives voxelhead to voxelhead
#1318 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#1319 [16:29] <VoxelHead> :-)
#1320 [16:29] * VoxelHead shares with Shadow386
#1320 [16:29] <xolotl> xales: VoxelHead is yours, yeah?
#1321 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> Vx is #minecrafthelp's
#1322 [16:29] <Shadow386> -_-
#1323 [16:29] <xolotl> xales: Could you turn off the random-comments stuff?
#1324 [16:30] <xolotl> Ah
#1325 [16:30] <xolotl> Well could YOU turn off the random-comments stuff?
#1326 [16:30] <neviklink> xales?
#1327 [16:30] <xolotl> Chatbots are annoying
#1328 [16:30] <neviklink> is xales a person?
#1329 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> that's the going theory
#1330 [16:31] <SPaRT> can somebody help me with an automatic door with pressure plates and lock?!
#1331 [16:31] * neviklink slaps DopeGhoti with a raw trout
#1331 [16:32] <Blargargh> I can't connect to that rules page :S
#1332 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> Blargargh: yeah, I've been bugging xales to remedy that.
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#1334 [16:33] * DopeGhoti gives vox an adjustment
#1334 [16:33] <VoxelHead> My favourite!
#1335 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> it will be slightly less autonomously talkative now
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#1337 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> Enjoy the new #minecrafthelp, xolotl.
#1338 [16:33] <Derpman> do you guys help with software problems?
#1339 [16:33] <bluejello> thyey be bods
#1340 [16:34] <bluejello> they be bots*
#1341 [16:34] <peru_> <SPaRT>, did you read all those topics i sent you link to
#1342 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> Derpman: That depends upon the problem.
#1343 [16:34] <bluejello> dope and voxel
#1344 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> bluejello: you rang?
#1345 [16:34] <SPaRT> peru_: u sent me some links?!
#1346 [16:34] <bluejello> well, I think that, voxel is one for sure
#1347 [16:34] <SPaRT> haven't seen them though
#1348 [16:34] <Derpman> I run MC.exe, after logging in I get a black screen and it goes nowhere
#1349 [16:34] <peru_> yes.. last time you were here and asked that question
#1350 [16:34] <Derpman> I've deleted everything and reinstalled, no luck.
#1351 [16:34] <bluejello> check the other chat tabs.
#1352 [16:35] <peru_> yesterday or 2 days ago.. i dont remember
#1353 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> Derpman: what OS, version of Java, etc.?
#1354 [16:35] <bluejello> hmm, have you done any mods?
#1355 [16:35] <Derpman> I did try the plane mod, but gave up
#1356 [16:35] <Vector> that's what happens when i apply the fly mod
#1357 [16:35] <Derpman> Windows 7 64 bit
#1358 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> And have you got the 64-bit JRE installed?
#1359 [16:35] <bluejello> try deleting the meta.inf folder
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#1362 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> Derpman win/reinst
#1363 [16:36] <VoxelHead> Derpman: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1364 [16:36] <VoxelHead> Derpman: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1365 [16:36] <Derpman> JRE? Sorry, not familiar with some of these terms.
#1366 [16:36] <SPaRT> can u send it again peru_ ?
#1367 [16:36] <bluejello> java runtime enviroment
#1368 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> JRE is the Jave Runtime Environment
#1369 [16:36] <bluejello> java verson
#1370 [16:36] <Derpman> Oh, right
#1371 [16:37] <bluejello> when you go to java.com click other versons and select 64 bit java, do not autodetect
#1372 [16:37] <bluejello> that is broken yes?
#1373 [16:37] <peru_> SPaRT, you dont remeber me? i said "i assume you know all the redstone wiring stuff, so build ordinary automatic door and add two AND gates at each end" and you said you dont know it
#1374 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> bluejello: sometimes
#1375 [16:37] <Derpman> I've done your idea, Vox
#1376 [16:37] <Derpman> Downloading packages now apparently lil
#1377 [16:37] <Derpman> *lol
#1378 [16:38] <bluejello> probably if you use a 32 bit internet browser at the time.
#1379 [16:38] <SPaRT> cant remember u sent me links.... remember this sentence from u
#1380 [16:38] <Derpman> can't be the update can it?
#1381 [16:38] <VoxelHead> bye CruelNoise
#1382 [16:38] <Derpman> It's a pretty big download anyway
#1383 [16:38] <peru_> SPaRT, use this query in google: site:minecraftforum.net "automatic door"
#1384 [16:38] <bluejello> I can try to get the 64 bit java link to you.
#1385 [16:39] <Derpman> Is it usual to be downloading a large package? :S
#1386 [16:39] <bluejello> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
#1387 [16:39] <Derpman> after doing what Vox said I mean, deleting bin.
#1388 [16:39] <bluejello> a bit down the page and the link to the download is there.
#1389 [16:39] <Derpman> cheerd
#1390 [16:39] <Derpman> *cheers
#1391 [16:39] <VoxelHead> Cheeeeeeeeeeerd.
#1392 [16:39] <bluejello> er, scrap that.
#1393 [16:40] <Derpman> xD
#1394 [16:40] <Vector> o.o
#1395 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> Derpman: yes, that's normal.
#1396 [16:40] <bluejello> it looks like windows only has one plugin,
#1397 [16:40] <Morzan> how do you get charcoal?
#1398 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> Morzan: cook wood
#1399 [16:40] <Morzan> like in the furnace/
#1400 [16:40] <Morzan> ?
#1401 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#1402 [16:41] <Derpman> Okay, great
#1403 [16:41] <Derpman> 0.01kb per sec? You gotta be kidding me T_T
#1404 [16:41] <bluejello> I downloaded the 64 bit verson java for windows before,
#1405 [16:41] <Derpman> I need a new router lol.
#1406 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> or a new ISP
#1407 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> or fewer porn torrents
#1408 [16:41] <Derpman> I guss xD
#1409 [16:41] <Derpman> *Guess. Maybe a new keyboard too :P
#1410 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> or a new hand.
#1411 [16:42] <bluejello> I do not want to ask.
#1412 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1413 [16:42] <Derpman> Could do with a better brain while we're at it
#1414 [16:42] <bluejello> me too
#1415 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> meh, just get a new Derpman.
#1416 [16:42] <Derpman> who wants to go grave robbing? ;D
#1417 [16:42] <bluejello> it is bad for my health, so no
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#1419 [16:42] <Derpman> Not with the new body I dig up for you ;)
#1420 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> how ery macabre.
#1421 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> s/ e/ ve/
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#1424 [16:46] <SPaRT> thx peru but tbh this thread is confusing me :-(
#1425 [16:47] <neviklink> what r u helping him with?
#1426 [16:47] <bluejello> yea
#1427 [16:48] <bluejello> right now? nothing much
#1428 [16:48] <Derpman> Just waiting for it to finish downloading..
#1429 [16:48] <Derpman> Wait, it's done
#1430 [16:48] <Derpman> Success :D
#1431 [16:48] <Derpman> Cheers!
#1432 [16:49] <VoxelHead> Cheeeeeeers!
#1433 [16:49] <bluejello> CHEEREZES
#1434 [16:49] <neviklink> downloading?
#1435 [16:49] <bluejello> *cough couch*
#1436 [16:49] <bluejello> java right?
#1437 [16:49] <VoxelHead> Basically, what do you think this is? Who Wants to be a Millionaire.
#1438 [16:49] <bluejello> yea, I kinda did
#1439 [16:49] * neviklink wonders wtf vox is talking about
#1439 [16:49] <VoxelHead> *wonders neviklink back with some heads*
#1440 [16:50] <bluejello> ...
#1441 [16:50] <bluejello> also how do you do that? /me?
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#1445 [16:50] <RYAN> hey
#1446 [16:50] <RYAN> guys
#1447 [16:50] <RYAN> i need help
#1448 [16:50] <neviklink> do what
#1449 [16:51] <neviklink> oh /me
#1450 [16:51] <RYAN> me and my bro have the same ip address
#1451 [16:51] <RYAN> we used to be able to play minecraft together
#1452 [16:51] * neviklink loves pie
#1452 [16:51] <RYAN> but now only one of us can play at one time
#1453 [16:51] <bluejello> are you using different accounts?
#1454 [16:51] <RYAN> yes
#1455 [16:51] <RYAN> i could play with him but now i cant login whnever hes online
#1456 [16:51] <bluejello> and chekced the IP from a external source, like a website?
#1457 [16:52] <RYAN> yes its my bro
#1458 [16:52] <neviklink> shouldnt you have two sperate ips?
#1459 [16:52] <RYAN> we both are in the same house
#1460 [16:52] <RYAN> wireless
#1461 [16:52] <RYAN> i could play whn hes online in the server b4
#1462 [16:52] <RYAN> but now we cant go in the same server
#1463 [16:52] <RYAN> says max connection count for ***.***.***.**
#1464 [16:52] <bluejello> if you are not using the same login info you should be good...
#1465 [16:53] <RYAN> but its the same ip address
#1466 [16:53] <bluejello> is it 192.168.1.1 or somethinkg like that?
#1467 [16:53] <RYAN> yes
#1468 [16:53] <RYAN> says max connection count
#1469 [16:53] <neviklink> thats your internal ip
#1470 [16:53] <bluejello> the IP, has it 192.168 in it?
#1471 [16:53] <RYAN> how do i solve it
#1472 [16:53] <RYAN> not 192
#1473 [16:54] <RYAN> some other numbers
#1474 [16:54] <bluejello> so it is not the internal.
#1475 [16:54] <RYAN> it starts with 218
#1476 [16:54] <peru_> neviklink, http://img88.imageshack.us/i/2way.jpg/
#1477 [16:54] <VoxelHead> French fries of course!
#1478 [16:54] <bluejello> do not mind voxel, he is a bot
#1479 [16:54] <peru_> apparently
#1480 [16:55] <RYAN> so how do i play again with my bro in the same server
#1481 [16:55] <RYAN> i could do tht a few days ago
#1482 [16:55] <bluejello> can you connect to a different server at the same time?
#1483 [16:55] * neviklink steals voxel's french fries
#1483 [16:55] <RYAN> yes
#1484 [16:55] <VoxelHead> Hey NO :(
#1485 [16:55] <VoxelHead> That's mine
#1486 [16:55] * VoxelHead sulks at neviklink.
#1486 [16:55] <bluejello> if he is not a bot he is a very fast typer.
#1487 [16:56] <neviklink> its a bot
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#1489 [16:56] * neviklink asks voxelhead if he is a bot
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#1490 [16:56] <schnozzle> anyone here?
#1491 [16:56] <peru_> nope
#1492 [16:56] <Razorflame> yep
#1493 [16:56] <bluejello> I am
#1494 [16:56] <RYAN> so bluejello any solutions
#1495 [16:56] <bluejello> can you get your external IP address, and your bros one?
#1496 [16:57] <RYAN> how
#1497 [16:57] <schnozzle> hey I am playin right now and I am at a rock with red things in it... what do?
#1498 [16:57] <Razorflame> Mine it
#1499 [16:57] <Razorflame> That's redstone
#1500 [16:57] <bluejello> by a website, do a search for what is my IP address.
#1501 [16:57] <schnozzle> no block drops
#1502 [16:57] <Razorflame> needs to be mined with iron or higher
#1503 [16:57] <bluejello> you need iron or diamond pickaxe
#1504 [16:57] <bluejello> but not gold.
#1505 [16:57] <schnozzle> run> cmd> IPCONFIG
#1506 [16:57] <Razorflame> ^
#1507 [16:57] <schnozzle> damn
#1508 [16:58] <bluejello> that only is the internal IP address I think.
#1509 [16:58] <RYAN> ok my ip starts with 218
#1510 [16:58] <bluejello> how about your bros?
#1511 [16:58] <neviklink> k
#1512 [16:58] <RYAN> not 192
#1513 [16:58] <neviklink> no tel us what the exact ip is
#1514 [16:58] <bluejello> the 192 is the internal IP of the network you are on
#1515 [16:59] <bluejello> or tell us if it is the same as your bros?
#1516 [16:59] <RYAN> its the same
#1517 [16:59] <RYAN> 218
#1518 [16:59] <RYAN> btw we are on wireless router
#1519 [16:59] <VoxelHead> Routerless wire.
#1520 [16:59] <peru_> whatismyipaddress.com/
#1521 [16:59] <Razorflame> Routers need ports opened
#1522 [16:59] <Razorflame> I think
#1523 [16:59] <RYAN> i thought tht was for hostin only
#1524 [17:00] <bluejello> if it is different computers they should be getting different IP addresses I think.
#1525 [17:00] <Razorflame> bluejello: Not if they use the same ISP
#1526 [17:00] <bluejello> ok then. My idea of how it works was just proven wrong
#1527 [17:00] <RYAN> i only have one isp in the house
#1528 [17:01] <RYAN> and i thing is i could play with my bro a few days ago
#1529 [17:01] <SPaRT> dammit
#1530 [17:01] <bluejello> others will proably be more help then me.
#1531 [17:01] <RYAN> ive tried proxy servers
#1532 [17:01] <neviklink> i think the port got closed
#1533 [17:01] <SPaRT> i get 1 door working with a pressure plate but not the 2nd
#1534 [17:01] <RYAN> but the ip comes out as 218 again
#1535 [17:01] <Razorflame> RYAN: Port was closed
#1536 [17:01] <Razorflame> or is closed
#1537 [17:01] <Razorflame> http://www.portforward.com
#1538 [17:01] <Razorflame> :)
#1539 [17:01] <neviklink> def that happnedi my segver woking fine bam port closed
#1540 [17:01] <RYAN> do they have a minecraft there
#1541 [17:01] <neviklink> yes
#1542 [17:02] <RYAN> ok ill check it out
#1543 [17:02] <RYAN> thks guys
#1544 [17:02] <neviklink> you have to select rtouter
#1545 [17:02] <Razorflame> yes
#1546 [17:02] <neviklink> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
#1547 [17:02] <RYAN> ill come back if theres any probs
#1548 [17:02] <SPaRT> peru_: r u familiar with that redstone stuff?
#1549 [17:02] <neviklink> and there
#1550 [17:02] <peru_> yes
#1551 [17:02] <RYAN> but im nt hostin my own server
#1552 [17:02] <neviklink> well snd that to him
#1553 [17:02] <Razorflame> ^
#1554 [17:02] <RYAN> to who
#1555 [17:02] <Razorflame> whoever is hosting the server
#1556 [17:02] <Razorflame> if it happens to be brother
#1557 [17:03] <RYAN> i dnt knw who is
#1558 [17:03] <Razorflame> send it to him
#1559 [17:03] <RYAN> lol
#1560 [17:03] <neviklink> your bor i guerss it navigates you to portforwarding and stuff
#1561 [17:03] <neviklink> i type really fast and make typos
#1562 [17:03] <SPaRT> peru_: do you wanna show me how this works? i tried try n error for 1 hour now :-/
#1563 [17:03] <RYAN> its a public server
#1564 [17:03] <neviklink> waht makes a server public?
#1565 [17:03] <Razorflame> ^
#1566 [17:04] <RYAN> i have no idea
#1567 [17:04] <RYAN> but its just on the minecraft multiplayer list
#1568 [17:04] <neviklink> do you connect thorugh ip
#1569 [17:04] <bluejello> no private IP addres, and no whitelist.
#1570 [17:04] <peru_> how better can i show this to you than those topics on forums?
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#1572 [17:04] <neviklink> so how is the ip private and not
#1573 [17:04] <RYAN> im really sorry, i have no clue on this computer stuff
#1574 [17:04] <RYAN> wht does ip private mean
#1575 [17:05] <RYAN> all i knw is it says my ip starts with 218.***.***
#1576 [17:05] <bluejello> the IP is listed on the page, not on a need to know basis.
#1577 [17:06] <neviklink> so you have to give them ur ip to get it listed?
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#1579 [17:07] <bluejello> you have to sign up on a fourm or something, or get the IP given to you.
#1580 [17:07] <RYAN> i have an acc on the servers forum
#1581 [17:07] <RYAN> its called buildsomethingfool.weebly
#1582 [17:07] <Obama_Bendover> Does minecraft play on 64 bit windows?
#1583 [17:07] <bluejello> yes, it is java based so it runs on most any system.
#1584 [17:08] <bluejello> just if you hav e64 bit make sure you have the correct java verson
#1585 [17:08] <Obama_Bendover> >_<
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#1587 [17:08] <bluejello> it may increace the performance and stabability.
#1588 [17:08] <neviklink> obam sucks
#1589 [17:08] <VoxelHead> obam is a pile of bastard
#1590 [17:08] <Morzan> MOTHER FUCKER
#1591 [17:08] <Obama_Bendover> lol
#1592 [17:08] <neviklink> you rockvox
#1593 [17:09] <neviklink> *you rock vox
#1594 [17:09] <Obama_Bendover> I used Obama instead of Ivana
#1595 [17:09] <Morzan> i just died on my game ive been spending like
#1596 [17:09] <Morzan> 20 hrs on D:
#1597 [17:09] <RYAN> so how do i play with my bro who has the same ip address, u mean i give my address to the server owner?
#1598 [17:09] <neviklink> play on a server in offline mod then ualways op and can respwn losses
#1599 [17:09] <Morzan> how do i do that...
#1600 [17:10] <bluejello> you need to host a server for that morzan
#1601 [17:10] <Morzan> that seemed pretty hard
#1602 [17:10] <neviklink> well servers can run offline
#1603 [17:10] <SPaRT> ok peru_ i'm watchin those 2 videos now
#1604 [17:10] <SPaRT> hopefully they'll help
#1605 [17:10] <neviklink> its in the porperties
#1606 [17:10] <bluejello> and RYAN I do not know of a way to get more than one connectoin per IP address, try contacting the server owner with the problem you are having.
#1607 [17:11] <SPaRT> the problem isn't getting 1 door working with pressure plates but 2
#1608 [17:11] <RYAN> ok thks anyway for the help
#1609 [17:11] <RYAN> ill post a topic on their forum
#1610 [17:11] <neviklink> wait twodors with one plate?
#1611 [17:12] <neviklink> is this single or mp
#1612 [17:18] <neviklink> soart?
#1613 [17:18] <neviklink> spart
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#1615 [17:22] <peru_> redstone works in mp ?
#1616 [17:22] <bluejello> yes, but it is a bit iffi
#1617 [17:22] <bluejello> right?
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#1619 [17:26] <aetherian> ...!
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#1621 [17:27] <Mash> bluejello, Not in my experience, redstone works pretty well in multiplayer
#1622 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> ^
#1623 [17:27] <bluejello> it used to not, havnt used it much from that time.
#1624 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> It's been pretty reliable
#1625 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> supercomplex curcuits can sometimes burn out
#1626 [17:28] <bluejello> but I have not used it recently so I would not know.
#1627 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> the railyards on my server still all work perfectly
#1628 [17:28] <Mash> Anyway, peru_, I'd consider it fairly reliable.
#1629 [17:29] <peru_> ok thanks.. its for SPaRT anyways
#1630 [17:29] <Razorflame> Found two more diamonds :)
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#1632 [17:29] <Mash> mollstam, Can we have paint, please? would love to be able to apply paint to a specific block. Colors are soo limited.
#1633 [17:29] <Razorflame> right above more bedrock
#1634 [17:30] <bluejello> yea, paint would be nicer than wool
#1635 [17:30] <VoxelHead> guess who made waffles!
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#1637 [17:30] <bluejello> but would have to be a texture overlay, not a completely new block.
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#1640 [17:38] <VoxelHead> where'd my moose go?
#1641 [17:40] <peru_> to your head, VoxelHead!
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#1646 [17:47] <xolotl> What I'd love more than paint is some kind of "dye box" or something, which would only take up one inventory space but let me keep all my dyes in it
#1647 [17:47] <xolotl> Also one for wool, or maybe just keep the wool in the same box or something
#1648 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> And one for ore, and one for ingots, and one for food.. where will it end?!
#1649 [17:48] <xolotl> I always feel torn between efficient colored-wool harvesting and being able to actually mine/build
#1650 [17:48] <VoxelHead> i can still see you
#1651 [17:49] <xolotl> VoxelHead: I hate you so much
#1652 [17:49] * xolotl just sets up an /ignore
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#1653 [17:50] * VoxelHead is now known as some-other-nick
#1653 [17:50] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: I don't feel too bad about wanting it for dyes/wool, since they're the same block type but with different data values. :)
#1654 [17:50] <VoxelHead> I had no idea.
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#1657 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> the only stacking request I can really get behind is commingling coal and charcoal
#1658 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> until there is some difference other than the name, it is kind of bothersome not to be able to communally stack 'em
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#1660 [17:57] <SlashLife^m> grrr ...
#1661 [17:57] <SlashLife^m> "Can't connect to minecraft.net" :/
#1662 [17:58] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :'(
#1663 [17:58] <bluejello> can access the website...
#1664 [17:58] <bluejello> trying opening minecraft.
#1665 [17:59] <SlashLife^m> DopeGhoti, it's politics.
#1666 [17:59] <SlashLife^m> After all, charcoal is vegetarian.
#1667 [17:59] <SlashLife^m> Vegan even.
#1668 [17:59] <bluejello> true that
#1669 [17:59] <SlashLife^m> Unless the trees have worms.
#1670 [17:59] <xolotl> SlashLife^m: Yet to acquire it you need to burn trees....
#1671 [17:59] <SlashLife^m> This sucks.
#1672 [18:00] <bluejello> ok, need to use my non-autologin icon.
#1673 [18:00] <SlashLife^m> There's a dozen people connecting and disconnecting "my" server, but I can't even auth.
#1674 [18:00] <bluejello> no, got in fine
#1675 [18:00] <bluejello> so dont know what the problem is, unless I am just specal.
#1676 [18:00] <SlashLife^m> Maybe it's because I yet need to dl the client.
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#1678 [18:01] <SlashLife^m> Well ... off to find a cracked one then.
#1679 [18:01] <bluejello> you do not even have the client?
#1680 [18:01] <SlashLife^m> Had to set up a whole new system, just dled the jar from the page so far.
#1681 [18:02] <bluejello> but why do you not have the client? did you buy minecart?
#1682 [18:02] <SlashLife^m> !paid slashlife
#1683 [18:02] <SlashLife^m> I think so, yes
#1684 [18:02] <bluejello> hmm
#1685 [18:03] <bluejello> !paid bluejello
#1686 [18:03] <bluejello> *cough*
#1687 [18:03] <bluejello> !paid dakiller
#1688 [18:03] <bluejello> wait, it is correct, nevermind me
#1689 [18:04] <bluejello> but that still raises the question why you want a cracked verson of minecraft.
#1690 [18:04] <SlashLife^m> Because you only download an installer .jar
#1691 [18:05] <SlashLife^m> Which then "updates" itself to the full version.
#1692 [18:05] <bluejello> and you want a older version or can you not "update"?
#1693 [18:05] <SlashLife^m> I cannot update. It tells me that it cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1694 [18:05] <SlashLife^m> Though wait ... maybe this is a Java security issue.
#1695 [18:06] <bluejello> possibly, I connected or so I think I did
#1696 [18:06] <bluejello> I loggen in fine, but that may not be reality...
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#1699 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> SlashLife^m: let's not discuss pirating Minecraft in the official support channel, 'kay?
#1700 [18:15] <SlashLife^m> I have two options here.
#1701 [18:16] <SlashLife^m> Either Notch managed to fuck up a call to a supposedly platform independent API ...
#1702 [18:16] <SlashLife^m> ... or Sun fucked up their VM.
#1703 [18:16] <Morzan> 18:13 DopeGhoti SlashLife^m: let's not discuss pirating Minecraft in the official support channel, 'kay?18:13 DopeGhoti SlashLife^m: let's not discuss pirating Minecraft in the official support channel, 'kay?
#1704 [18:16] <Morzan> ^
#1705 [18:17] <Morzan> but
#1706 [18:17] <Morzan> ill say u can get minecraft by searching free minecraft on youtube
#1707 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> and I'll say knock it off.
#1708 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> ?? distribution
#1709 [18:17] <VoxelHead> distribution: Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#1710 [18:17] <VoxelHead> distribution: This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#1711 [18:18] <Morzan> o
#1712 [18:18] <SlashLife^m> Interesting btw.: After all it was here that I was told to just find one of the cracked versions to downgrade back to 1.3 when the server wasn't updated yet.
#1713 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> SlashLife^m: whoever told you to do that is lucky that an attentive operator was not paying attention.
#1714 [18:18] <SlashLife^m> Then again I also don't know how I can *pirate* something I've paid for.
#1715 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> again, the client specifically says "Do Not Distribute".
#1716 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> end of discussion.
#1717 [18:19] <SlashLife^m> And last of all: If seemingly the software distribution fails the way it should work I have no other option to get it.
#1718 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/hosting
#1719 [18:19] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: Since migrating over to Amazon's EC2 cloud, the cluster servers for minecraft.net have been under impressive strain. It has continually buckled under the pressure of registering users, authenticating clients, crediting accounts, providing custom skin content, maintaining a classic server directory, as well as providing a front-end website for users.
#1720 [18:19] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: This is clearly not intended and Mojang is working on a new server arrangement, but is ensuring that it's done properly and not just quickly as was the move to Amazon.
#1721 [18:20] <SlashLife^m> This seems to be a software problem after all, not related to hosting.
#1722 [18:21] <SlashLife^m> Some way down the line of the HTTPClient, a socket implementation throws an 8nvalid argument.
#1723 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> Authentication and the site are in different places, accessed differently.
#1724 [18:22] <SlashLife^m> All I can answer to that is: "So?"
#1725 [18:23] <SlashLife^m> It doesn't change the fact that a call to Javas HTTPClient that works on Windows should be working on FreeBSD just as well.
#1726 [18:28] <SlashLife^m> I wonder if it is possible to install Java in Wine.
#1727 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> FreeBSD is not a supprted environment for Minecraft. It downloads native libraries for all three supported OSs (Linux, OS X (which, yes, is BSD), and Windows).
#1728 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> Are you using an actual *BSD, or are you on a Mac?
#1729 [18:29] <SlashLife^m> FreeBSD 8
#1730 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> Are you trying to run MC natively, or through MSD's Linux compatibility layer?
#1731 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> BSD's rather
#1732 [18:29] <SlashLife^m> Mh. So maybe I should try installing linux-jdk
#1733 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#1734 [18:30] <Dark_Fox> SlashLife^m: If I recall Correctly, Minecraft uses the Lightweight Java Game Library which has pre-compiled binaries for Linux, Mac, and Windows only
#1735 [18:30] <bread> intellegent people, in _my_ #minecrafthelp ?
#1736 [18:30] <bread> It's more likely than I think, apparently.
#1737 [18:30] <Dark_Fox> It uses those binaries to interface with the C level OpenGL and what-not
#1738 [18:31] <SlashLife^m> *jre
#1739 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> vox, activate intelligence detectors
#1740 [18:31] * VoxelHead waves tricorder around a bit
#1740 [18:31] <VoxelHead> Intelligence levels of 42 percent detected.
#1741 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> there you are, bread
#1742 [18:31] <Vector> oh crap
#1743 [18:31] <bread> 8D
#1744 [18:31] <Vector> this channel actually has intelligence
#1745 [18:31] <SlashLife^m> So much for platform independency.
#1746 [18:31] <SlashLife^m> I hate Java ... and once again I'm confirmed in that opinion.
#1747 [18:31] <Dark_Fox> Well, FreeBSD is more of a confederacy anyways
#1748 [18:32] <Vector> it won't work with FreeBSD?
#1749 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#1750 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> Vector: there are no relevant (native) LWJGL libs available in FreeBSD
#1751 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> McOS notwithstanding
#1752 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> I'd suspect the Mac libs would work
#1753 [18:32] <Vector> i should install a FreeBSD virtual machine, and fiddle around xD
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#1755 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> what with OSX being candy-coaded BSD
#1756 [18:33] <bread> Does OS X have enough BSD left after Apples bastardizations, to run native BSD code?
#1757 [18:33] <Dark_Fox> DopeGhoti: OSX is UNIX
#1758 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> no, OSX is BSD
#1759 [18:33] <Dark_Fox> OSX is certified UNIX
#1760 [18:33] <bread> Dark_Fox: wrong. OS X is based off of BSD, which is in turn based off of UNIX.
#1761 [18:33] <bluejello> you learn somthing new every day.
#1762 [18:33] <SlashLife^m> Vector: Throws exceptions on the network code for FreeBSDs jdk16
#1763 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> `uname -a` -> 10.7.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.7.0: Sat Jan 29 15:17:16 PST 2011; root:xnu-1504.9.37~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
#1764 [18:34] <Dark_Fox> Mmkay, Wikipedia says BSD so it's BSd
#1765 [18:35] * DopeGhoti is vindicated by Wikipedia, for what that's worth (:
#1765 [18:35] <VoxelHead> what
#1766 [18:35] <Dark_Fox> Well, I'm not going to argue a point when there's some legit facts to prove me wrong
#1767 [18:35] <Dark_Fox> I'm not -that- insane
#1768 [18:35] <bread> I think I sense sarcasm.
#1769 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*(
#1770 [18:35] <bread> But I can't be sure, because this is all text.
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#1772 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> Dark_Fox: you're on the Internet, the native land of arging about known-to-be-wrong things (:
#1773 [18:36] <Dark_Fox> Wasn't meaning to be sarcastic
#1774 [18:36] <Dark_Fox> DopeGhoti: True, but I'm more of a scientist
#1775 [18:36] <Dark_Fox> The persuit of truth and furry porn
#1776 [18:36] * DopeGhoti approves of Science.
#1776 [18:36] * DopeGhoti is indifferent to fur.
#1776 [18:37] <Dark_Fox> Eh, fur is my personal preference
#1777 [18:37] <bread> Dark_Fox: this may be relevent to your interests: http://www.netneurotic.de/mac/unix/images/UNIX.png
#1778 [18:37] <Dark_Fox> I won't stuff it down anyone's throat unless they ask nicely
#1779 [18:38] <Dark_Fox> Sweeet, I love charts
#1780 [18:38] <Dark_Fox> That's going to my imageboard
#1781 [18:38] <bread> It shows the history of UNIX quite nicely ;)
#1782 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> that's a _LOT_ more concise than other similar charts I've seen
#1783 [18:39] * DopeGhoti saves that
#1783 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> History of UNIX
#1784 [18:39] * DopeGhoti punches that into the right terminal this time.
#1784 [18:40] <bread> :D
#1785 [18:40] <VoxelHead> =]
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#1787 [18:40] <Dark_Fox> I just have my own personal image board, so I can Right Click/Upload to Image Board and boom it's been cataloged with delicious tags
#1788 [18:41] <bluejello> that would be nice to have.
#1789 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> bash + API + picasa or imgur or $SERVICE
#1790 [18:42] * DopeGhoti shrugs
#1790 [18:43] <bread> yay bash
#1791 [18:43] <Dark_Fox> I just use shimmie2 and some danbooru uploader I found online
#1792 [18:43] <bread> I wrote a roguelike-like in bash
#1793 [18:43] <bread> :>
#1794 [18:43] <Dark_Fox> shimmie2, like all image boards, is a massive pile of stinking code
#1795 [18:44] <VoxelHead> :-)
#1796 [18:44] <bluejello> roughlike-like?
#1797 [18:44] <bread> heh yes :P
#1798 [18:44] <bread> It's like a roguelike
#1799 [18:44] <bluejello> so it is like something that is like rouge?
#1800 [18:44] <bread> loool exactly!
#1801 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> bread: in the BashRL, do you roam about /proc, in search of rogue deamons to slay?
#1802 [18:46] <bread> bwaha that's a brilliant idea
#1803 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> you could hit them with broken pipes (:
#1804 [18:47] <bread> looool
#1805 [18:47] <bread> oh man
#1806 [18:47] <bread> I like it
#1807 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> There's your next 7drl project (:
#1808 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> in stead of a map and moving around a dungeon, you have to cd around a filesystem
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#1810 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> with your inventory kept in ~
#1811 [18:48] <Bully006> Hello?
#1812 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> hiya
#1813 [18:48] <Bully006> I kind of need some help
#1814 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#1815 [18:48] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1816 [18:48] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1817 [18:48] <bread> oh man, I love that idea
#1818 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> good talk, Bully006
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#1820 [18:48] <bread> lol
#1821 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> bread: let me know if you start development (:
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#1823 [18:49] <bread> ha definitely
#1824 [18:49] <Bully006> Sorry Crashed
#1825 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> did the airbag deploy?
#1826 [18:50] <Bully006> I kind of need help with the Black screen issue
#1827 [18:50] <bread> oh man I just caught 'daemons'. I read it as 'demons' before.
#1828 [18:50] <bread> So much better like that
#1829 [18:50] <Dark_Fox> bread: daemons is just an older spelling of demons anyways
#1830 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1831 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> yes, but daemon is also the canonical name for a process with no attached TTY
#1832 [18:51] <Bully006> can you guys hear me?
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#1834 [18:51] <bread> yes we can Bully006
#1835 [18:51] <Julius7796> I'm keep getting the 'End of stream' message when I try to join a server .. any way to fix that?
#1836 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> Julius7796: drink more water
#1837 [18:51] <Julius7796> done
#1838 [18:51] <Julius7796> and now?
#1839 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> are you having the problem with all servers, or just one?
#1840 [18:52] <Bully006> Black Screen issue is ticking me off
#1841 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> Bully006 win/reinst
#1842 [18:52] <VoxelHead> Bully006: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1843 [18:52] <VoxelHead> Bully006: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1844 [18:53] <Bully006> Delete the Bin folder as a Whole?
#1845 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#1846 [18:53] <Julius7796> DopeGhoti: only joined one .. I played today already in this server but suddenly I get this error
#1847 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> Julius7796: I'd try another server to ensure whether or not the problem is or is not with the server
#1848 [18:58] <Julius7796> Now I'm keep getting a bad login error -.-
#1849 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> Julius7796: clear out and reenter your account name and password.
#1850 [19:00] * DopeGhoti wonders if slashlife ever got his game working on BSD
#1850 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> and how long before he tries to put diesel into his unleaded-fuel-run car
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#1852 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> welcome back
#1853 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> any luck, SlashLife^m?
#1854 [19:01] <Dark_Fox> Bet two bucks he hasn't
#1855 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> no wager.
#1856 [19:01] <Julius7796> DopeGhoti: The 'End of Stream' error happens only on the specifed server where I am always playing on
#1857 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> Julius7796: then the problem is with the server, and not with your client.
#1858 [19:01] <SlashLife^m> Nope, didn't do any good.
#1859 [19:02] <Julius7796> what can the problem be :o
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#1861 [19:03] <Dark_Fox> Not meaning to say anything bad about FreeBSD, but I don't think that particular OS is well suited for gaming
#1862 [19:03] <SlashLife^m> Just the more reason to get this stuff ported to something locally compilable, though. :)
#1863 [19:03] <SlashLife^m> Indeed.
#1864 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> nor is Windows, for that matter :p
#1865 [19:03] <Dark_Fox> How about dual-booting with another OS?
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#1868 [19:03] <SlashLife^m> It's well suited as my router though and after I've surprisingly been "freed" of my Windows laptop it's the last machine I have.
#1869 [19:04] <Bully006> It didn't work :(
#1870 [19:04] <Dark_Fox> Mhmm. FreeBSD would be well suited for routing
#1871 [19:04] <Bully006> any other idea's?
#1872 [19:05] <SlashLife^m> So anyway ... got to hope I'll get the laptop back soon.
#1873 [19:05] <SlashLife^m> At least I can now watch porn on the router. xD
#1874 [19:05] <Dark_Fox> So why are you using it as your router if you only have the one machine?
#1875 [19:05] <Julius7796> thanks dope.
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#1877 [19:05] <SlashLife^m> Too bad I've never seen much of a point in that though.
#1878 [19:06] <SlashLife^m> Dark_Fox, until Tuesday I had a laptop on top of that.
#1879 [19:06] <Bully006> So what can i do now to fix the Black Screen?
#1880 [19:06] <SlashLife^m> Due to the bankruptcy of my employer I had to temporarily hand it in, tho
#1881 [19:07] <Dark_Fox> Eesh
#1882 [19:07] <SlashLife^m> without prior warning etc
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#1884 [19:07] <SlashLife^m> Even worse than MC: I finished my job application template the evening before.
#1885 [19:07] <Dark_Fox> I try to not keep anything of personal nature on work machines
#1886 [19:07] <Bully006> cous i am stuck and i REALLY want to play minecraft
#1887 [19:08] <SlashLife^m> Well, it's 1:09 am; guess I'll go to bed "early" tonight.
#1888 [19:08] <Dark_Fox> Later, Slash
#1889 [19:09] <SlashLife^m> From tomorrow I think I'll make some progress on some books I wanted to read for a long time instead. :)
#1890 [19:09] <SlashLife^m> Good night everyone.
#1891 [19:09] <Bully006> can you guys hear me?
#1892 [19:09] <SlashLife^m> And thanks for the heads up; even if it didn't have the desired outcome in the end.
#1893 [19:10] <VoxelHead> and then my elbow got discontinued
#1894 [19:10] <SlashLife^m> Bully006, I turned tex to speech off; so no
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#1896 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> Bully006 win/profile
#1897 [19:10] <VoxelHead> Bully006: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1898 [19:10] <VoxelHead> Bully006: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1899 [19:11] <Bully006> i thought once you buy it on one profile you can't play it on a new one?
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#1901 [19:12] <SlashLife^m> Oh, you can. Just today a user was banned from our server for the third time.
#1902 [19:12] <bread> vox's elbow got _discontinued_?
#1903 [19:12] <bread> I've never heard of such a thing happening.
#1904 [19:12] <VoxelHead> ask someone else
#1905 [19:12] <SlashLife^m> This time he even made a new premium account.
#1906 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Bully006: Not a new Minecraft account; a new _computer_ account
#1907 [19:12] <SlashLife^m> bread, you didn't?ä
#1908 [19:13] * SlashLife^m plays around with a blood stained axe ...
#1908 [19:13] <SlashLife^m> Anyway ... I'm afk. :)
#1909 [19:13] <bread> :o
#1910 [19:13] <SlashLife^m> Bully006, good luck
#1911 [19:13] <VoxelHead> yikes
#1912 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> SlashLife^m: when you get back, someone was typing as your keyboard whilst you were AFK
#1913 [19:15] <SlashLife^m> I still have that neural interface. And speech to text; which is the reason why I disabled text to speech.
#1914 [19:16] <Bully006> i can't do that cous this is not my Computer it is my Moms
#1915 [19:16] <SlashLife^m> I should turn off both now; just in case I talk in my sleep or my dreams are rather "family planning friendly" than "family friendly" :p
#1916 [19:17] <Bully006> is there any other way around the Black Screen?
#1917 [19:17] <bluejello> have you attempted at installing a mod on this install of minecraft?
#1918 [19:17] <VoxelHead> Www.google.com.
#1919 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> if you cannot create a new user, you probably cannot update your drivers or reinstall Java
#1920 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> so send your mother to IRC and we'll help her
#1921 [19:17] <bread> LOL
#1922 [19:17] <aetherian> err
#1923 [19:18] <aetherian> creepy, dope
#1924 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> how so?
#1925 [19:18] <Bully006> Bluejello i just Bought it mate i just want to play
#1926 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> Sparky McYoungster here can't fiddle with his mom's computer
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#1928 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> you you are unwilling or unable to follour advice, what more do you want from us?
#1929 [19:18] <bluejello> ok, so you have not installed any mods, that stopes that possiblility.
#1930 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> vox, make Bully's computer magically work
#1931 [19:19] * VoxelHead replicates computer magically work and hands it to Bully's
#1931 [19:19] <bluejello> and I can't fiddle around on the more powerfull computers we have because of my father.
#1932 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget parserfail
#1933 [19:19] <Bully006> it's not that i cant Fiddle with it it's just that it would piss of my Mom >.>
#1934 [19:19] <bluejello> *cough*I got the admin password thorugh*cough*
#1935 [19:19] <AndrewPH> Bully006, well then stop asking for help if you can't follow the advice :1
#1936 [19:19] <bluejello> though*
#1937 [19:19] <aetherian> heh
#1938 [19:19] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1939 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> your options are threefold: annoy your parents, ask them for permission and then get crap fixed, or send them here and we'll talk them through fixing things
#1940 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> okay, fourth option: status quo
#1941 [19:20] <aetherian> I figured out the admin password, and use it, for all my fathers computers
#1942 [19:20] <aetherian> and the router, which is used more often.
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#1944 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> My admin password is a boot floppy that injects a new admin user into the registry and .SAM
#1945 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> did I type that out loud?
#1946 [19:21] <bluejello> well, I kinda changed the admin password, but my fathers account is administrative so I dout he will find out.
#1947 [19:21] <bluejello> mine was a CD, but it got broke
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#1949 [19:21] <VoxelHead> mmm h
#1950 [19:21] <bread> lol
#1951 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> vox, do you like h?
#1952 [19:21] <h> hhhhhh :(
#1953 [19:21] <VoxelHead> Nnnk.
#1954 [19:21] <AndrewPH> vox is derpface
#1955 [19:22] * bread hugs vox
#1955 [19:22] <VoxelHead> *uNf
#1956 [19:22] <bread> :>
#1957 [19:22] * h puts VoxelHead into a perl script
#1957 [19:22] <VoxelHead> =)
#1958 [19:22] <VoxelHead> I do love a good putsing.
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#1960 [19:23] * VoxelHead is now TCL in C in perl. How recursive.
#1960 [19:23] * DopeGhoti gives vox a python
#1960 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> (for the sake of completion)
#1961 [19:23] <VoxelHead> thankie
#1962 [19:23] * aetherian hands vox a hankie
#1962 [19:23] * VoxelHead plays with his hankie
#1962 [19:23] <aetherian> o.o
#1963 [19:23] <bread> 8D
#1964 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: hankie, winkie
#1965 [19:24] * bread gives vox a turtle.
#1965 [19:24] <VoxelHead> thx
#1966 [19:24] * h pours a tuborg super light beer down the throat on VoxelHead
#1966 [19:24] <VoxelHead> T to the H A N K S
#1967 [19:25] * DopeGhoti throws vox at h
#1967 [19:25] <VoxelHead> hey :(
#1968 [19:25] * h uses dark force
#1968 [19:25] * aetherian juggles vox
#1968 [19:25] * VoxelHead . o O ( ? )
#1968 [19:25] * h stabs VoxelHead
#1968 [19:25] <VoxelHead> Mmm.
#1969 [19:25] * bread eats vox
#1969 [19:25] * bluejello tries to eat VoxelHead
#1969 [19:25] <bread> >:|
#1970 [19:25] * aetherian steals voxes source code
#1970 [19:25] <VoxelHead> *eats bread*
#1971 [19:25] * DopeGhoti thinks Vox is a little into the BDSM
#1971 [19:25] <bluejello> hey, I came up with that idea first
#1972 [19:25] <VoxelHead> what
#1973 [19:26] <aetherian> 8D
#1974 [19:26] * VoxelHead steals aetherian back with a cliff
#1974 [19:26] * VoxelHead shames DopeGhoti in return
#1974 [19:26] <aetherian> oho ho
#1975 [19:26] * DopeGhoti is ashamed.
#1975 [19:26] <bread> :D
#1976 [19:26] <aetherian> am thinking DopeGhoti is a little into the BDSM :o
#1977 [19:26] * bluejello pokes VoxelHead
#1977 [19:26] <VoxelHead> =D
#1978 [19:26] <VoxelHead> *ruins bluejello back with thefRont*
#1979 [19:26] <aetherian> ow
#1980 [19:26] <bluejello> AAHHHHHH
#1981 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Hey, I'm not the one that 'mmmm'ed at being stabbed
#1982 [19:26] * bluejello runs away
#1982 [19:27] * aetherian swings his live, bubbling lava lamp at vox, shattering the surrounding glass on his skull
#1982 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> Vox, how are you?
#1983 [19:27] * bluejello comes back
#1983 [19:27] <VoxelHead> *boing*
#1984 [19:27] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti: I'm feeling pretty average :/
#1985 [19:27] <aetherian> what
#1986 [19:27] <aetherian> average
#1987 [19:27] <aetherian> I just hit you with a big freaking lava lamp
#1988 [19:27] <bread> lol
#1989 [19:27] * DopeGhoti givex bluejello to voxel
#1989 [19:27] * VoxelHead givex DopeGhoti
#1989 [19:27] <bluejello> so voxel is boing years old?
#1990 [19:27] * DopeGhoti givexsbluejello to voxel
#1990 [19:27] * VoxelHead . o O ( ? )
#1990 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> of F it
#1991 [19:28] * DopeGhoti cannot type on medication apparently
#1991 [19:28] <aetherian> MEDS
#1992 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> vox, how many years old are you?
#1993 [19:28] <VoxelHead> minus 4
#1994 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> there you are, bluejello.
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#1996 [19:28] <aetherian> vox, what's 2_2
#1997 [19:28] <aetherian> err
#1998 [19:28] <aetherian> vox, what's 2+2
#1999 [19:28] <bluejello> 2-2
#2000 [19:28] <VoxelHead> aetherian: for this problem, i'll need to set my calculator to 'maths'
#2001 [19:28] <VoxelHead> 4
#2002 [19:28] <aetherian> :D
#2003 [19:28] <bread> \o/
#2004 [19:28] <aetherian> vox, what's 1+1
#2005 [19:28] <VoxelHead> =]
#2006 [19:29] <VoxelHead> aetherian: 1+1 = 143
#2007 [19:29] <VoxelHead> oops, forgot to carry the one ;(
#2008 [19:29] <VoxelHead> actually, it's 2
#2009 [19:29] <bread> LOL
#2010 [19:29] <aetherian> xD
#2011 [19:29] <bluejello> vox what is the answer to life, the universe, and everything?
#2012 [19:29] <VoxelHead> Cheese.
#2013 [19:29] <aetherian> ^
#2014 [19:29] <bread> LOOOL
#2015 [19:29] <aetherian> so true
#2016 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> surprisingly apt.
#2017 [19:29] <bluejello> ... IT IS 42
#2018 [19:29] <aetherian> bluejello: no
#2019 [19:29] <aetherian> it's Cheese
#2020 [19:29] * bluejello falls down in rage
#2020 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> no, that's the answer to the ultimate question *of* life, the universe, and everything.
#2021 [19:30] <aetherian> XD
#2022 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> get your H2G2 references straight, buck-o
#2023 [19:30] <bread> vox, run for the hills!
#2024 [19:30] <Strifeee> My MC server has started to lag massively, could this be caused by too much/far of exploration?
#2025 [19:30] * VoxelHead ducks
#2025 [19:30] <bluejello> I am a hill
#2026 [19:30] <aetherian> vox, what are you?
#2027 [19:30] <bluejello> in RL my last name is hill.
#2028 [19:30] <VoxelHead> nothing
#2029 [19:30] * VoxelHead looks shifty.
#2029 [19:30] <bread> :O
#2030 [19:30] * DopeGhoti hides behind vox
#2030 [19:30] * VoxelHead hides behind DopeGhoti
#2030 [19:30] <VoxelHead> ARRRRGH!
#2031 [19:30] <bluejello> nothing, or the absence of something?
#2032 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> eep!
#2033 [19:31] <VoxelHead> Yes.
#2034 [19:31] <VoxelHead> I mean no!
#2035 [19:31] <bread> vox, make it explode!
#2036 [19:31] * VoxelHead makes it explode! for bread
#2036 [19:31] <bluejello> let us help strifeee now
#2037 [19:31] <bread> :D
#2038 [19:31] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2039 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> vox, please be quiet
#2040 [19:31] <aetherian> haha
#2041 [19:31] <bread> :(
#2042 [19:31] <VoxelHead> Evaluation: PATHETIC£~$~##%percent%percent!.
#2043 [19:31] <aetherian> he doesn't answer to you
#2044 [19:31] <Strifeee> Yes please do!
#2045 [19:31] * VoxelHead downloads some porn for bread
#2045 [19:31] <bread> :D
#2046 [19:31] <bluejello> yes, strifeee that is a possible cause, also fire too
#2047 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Strifeee: only if there are many players connected at the same time who are near each other
#2048 [19:31] <aetherian> bluejello: we do help here?
#2049 [19:32] <aetherian> o.o
#2050 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> also, lots and lots of perptetual-motion minecards, comples redstone, or other things can end up causing lag
#2051 [19:32] <bluejello> perhaps
#2052 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> or hosting a server on a dial-up connection (:
#2053 [19:32] <Strifeee> Basically me and two friends play. My one friend loves to travel very far. We're thinking because of all the stuff shes built that far out, the server is having to keep all of that loaded? If that is the case, is there anyway to fix it other than hunting it all down and taking it apart?
#2054 [19:32] <aetherian> hehe
#2055 [19:32] <bluejello> sometimes restarting the server may help.
#2056 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> no, the server only keeps loaded the spawn zone and a 'bubble' around each player
#2057 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> are you getting a plethora of 'can't keep up!' messages on the server console?
#2058 [19:34] <bluejello> or has anyone set of TNT recently? enough TNT can cause massive lag.
#2059 [19:34] <Strifeee> My friend actuallt hosts it for me, i'd have to ask him
#2060 [19:34] <Strifeee> It's on a proper server, so it was a bit odd that its having issues
#2061 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> it could be a number of things from system load to network issues to mods freaking out
#2062 [19:35] <bluejello> try a restart if nothing else, of the minecraft server software.
#2063 [19:35] <Strifeee> Thanks, i'll give the restart a try, and checkout any boosters going
#2064 [19:37] <Strifeee> restart seemed to clear it up immensely.
#2065 [19:37] <thefRont> VoxelHead: you're doing what? ;)
#2066 [19:37] <VoxelHead> a wall
#2067 [19:37] <bread> lolwut
#2068 [19:37] <bluejello> how long has it been since the last restart?
#2069 [19:37] <thefRont> no I meant: <VoxelHead> *ruins bluejello back with thefRont*
#2070 [19:37] <bread> lol
#2071 [19:37] * VoxelHead doesn't remember
#2071 [19:38] <thefRont> it's only ten minutes back
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#2073 [19:38] <thefRont> but I was busy experimenting with WorldEdit
#2074 [19:38] <thefRont> ;)
#2075 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> vox, what did you just do to thefRont?
#2076 [19:38] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#2077 [19:38] <VoxelHead> the Lord of the Rings but it's nothing sexual
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#2079 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> okay then.
#2080 [19:38] <GN|JagarN> help me please
#2081 [19:38] <thefRont> crashed minecraft almost a dozen times now :D
#2082 [19:38] <GN|JagarN> admin
#2083 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#2084 [19:38] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2085 [19:39] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2086 [19:39] <Wug> voxelhead, courtmartial voxelhead
#2087 [19:39] <VoxelHead> Duh.
#2088 [19:39] <bread> lol
#2089 [19:40] <GN|JagarN> can someone help me whit my minecraft?
#2090 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> ??> GN|JagarN ask
#2091 [19:40] <VoxelHead> GN|JagarN: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2092 [19:40] <bluejello> what be the problem?
#2093 [19:40] <VoxelHead> GN|JagarN: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2094 [19:41] <GN|JagarN> My minecraft its bugged, its like not updating, and i fall down in the map. and i dont understand wy im doing that?
#2095 [19:42] <thefRont> grr.... I have been fooled!
#2096 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> Single-player or miltiplayer? What OS? What version of the game? Any mods?
#2097 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask/howto
#2098 [19:42] <VoxelHead> ask/howto: Please read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
#2099 [19:42] <VoxelHead> ask/howto: Yes, it's long. That's because it's packed chock-full of information, explained clearly.
#2100 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> thefRont: how so?
#2101 [19:43] <thefRont> by trying to talk to a bot
#2102 [19:43] <bluejello> have you tried to reinstall minecraft by deleting the existing minecraft bin folder?
#2103 [19:43] <VoxelHead> what do you think?
#2104 [19:43] <GN|JagarN> Multyplayer, Windows xp service pack 2, Minecraft update 1.4_01. and no mods
#2105 [19:43] * VoxelHead is crafty, thefRont
#2105 [19:44] <Vector> [16:04:57] <GN|JagarN> My minecraft its bugged, its like not updating, and i fall down in the map. and i dont understand wy im doing that?
#2106 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> GN|JagarN win/reinst
#2107 [19:44] <VoxelHead> GN|JagarN: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2108 [19:44] <VoxelHead> GN|JagarN: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2110 [19:44] <Vector> there is no new update after 1.4_01
#2111 [19:44] <Vector> as for you falling down in the map
#2112 [19:44] <bluejello> how long have you been in the server for ?
#2113 [19:44] <aetherian> Minecraft service pack 1
#2114 [19:44] <bluejello> sounds like the map is not updating for him
#2115 [19:44] <Vector> sounds like your chunks are not downloading, which to me would seem to be a NIC issue, of which there's a proposed fix in the minecraft 1.5 update
#2116 [19:45] <VoxelHead> I like them :)
#2117 [19:45] <Vector> Noob bot
#2118 [19:45] <GN|JagarN> and onemore question? its says Can't connect to minecraft.net?
#2119 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> There have been some issues intermittently with authentication
#2120 [19:46] <Corporal_Dirge> Anyone having issues with cannons? I can't seem to get more than 2 layers without the top layer not dropping.
#2121 [19:46] <bluejello> I can login fine from where I am.
#2122 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> bluejello: that's the nature of intermittent problems.
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#2125 [19:46] <GN|JagarN> how can i fix that? can't connect to minecraft.net?
#2126 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> patience
#2127 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> (by waiting for the site problems to pass)
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#2129 [19:49] <GN|JagarN> i still got the same problem, i fall down under the map.
#2130 [19:50] <bluejello> if you wait long enough does the problem fix itself?
#2131 [19:50] <GN|JagarN> are you talking to me now?
#2132 [19:52] <GN|JagarN> Yes, but it got a verry large lagg, if i take away a block, it coming back. and i dont know what the problem is
#2133 [19:52] <bluejello> move away from spawn?
#2134 [19:52] <VoxelHead> ask jeeves, he is smarter than average VoxelHead
#2135 [19:52] <bread> loool
#2136 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> GN|JagarN: are you running any firewall or security software like ZoneAlarm?
#2137 [19:56] <GN|JagarN> can windows firewall be anyproblem?
#2138 [19:56] <bluejello> it can be/
#2139 [19:56] <bluejello> try with it deactivated to see if it is
#2140 [19:57] <bluejello> or make sure that minecraft is set on the allow list.
#2141 [19:59] <GN|JagarN> how can i set it on allowlist?
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#2143 [19:59] <GN|JagarN> it didnt work whitout firewall
#2144 [20:03] <bluejello> hmm, so it is not the windows firewall that is causing a problem.
#2145 [20:05] <GN|JagarN> no
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#2147 [20:08] <Vector> sheesh
#2148 [20:08] <VoxelHead> sheeeeeeeeeeesh
#2149 [20:08] <Vector> the comp just restarted out of nowhere
#2150 [20:08] <Vector> NO U
#2151 [20:09] <bluejello> automatic updates?
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#2153 [20:12] <GN|JagarN> can you help me or not?
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#2155 [20:12] <bluejello> I probably can not.
#2156 [20:13] <Vector> no
#2157 [20:13] <Vector> it was hard resetted
#2158 [20:13] <Vector> for some re ason
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#2160 [20:16] <GN|JagarN> can it be servicepack 2?
#2161 [20:16] <GN|JagarN> maby i need servicepack 3?
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#2163 [20:19] <Vector> no
#2164 [20:20] <Vector> that's not going to help
#2165 [20:20] <Vector> i have service pack 3, but the service pack shouldn't have anything to do with it
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#2167 [20:22] <Vector> are you stale when you go afk?
#2168 [20:26] <bluejello> I would recommend updating to servicepack 3 just for the added security in the base operating system.
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#2171 [20:28] <Bully006> Ok so guy's i am getting the same thing as this guy here http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=286723&sid=28cb2914e46be56a3134c5279bfee0d2 any fix's for this?
#2172 [20:29] <gPad2002> Bully006: Read the thread
#2173 [20:29] <gPad2002> It's been answered
#2174 [20:30] <Bully006> were?
#2175 [20:30] <Bully006> And no the Force Update does not work
#2176 [20:31] <gPad2002> No idea, then
#2177 [20:31] <bluejello> if force update work not you will need to delete the bin folder in the .minecraft folder
#2178 [20:31] <bluejello> what is the command to tell them how to do that ?
#2179 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#2180 [20:32] <Bully006> Windows XP
#2181 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Press windows+R on your keyboard to bring up the run command
#2182 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Type in: %appdata%
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#2184 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, go inside. Delete everything but the saves folder
#2185 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft
#2186 [20:32] <bluejello> or %appdata%/.minecraft
#2187 [20:33] <VoxelHead> she took... all those horses...
#2188 [20:33] <Wug> voxelhead, did xales leave you on blather mode? I think he did
#2189 [20:33] <bluejello> the translate feature detected relaunch minecraft as german...
#2190 [20:34] <Bully006> GreyVulpine it still Crashs
#2191 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Can you provide me with a pastebin.com of the error log?
#2192 [20:34] <bluejello> hmm
#2193 [20:34] <Wug> before you do
#2194 [20:35] <Wug> running minecraft from the bin folder doesn't work, you have to use the lauincher
#2195 [20:35] <bluejello> I assume that you do not have any mods installed correct?
#2196 [20:35] <Bully006> Correct
#2197 [20:35] <Wug> so that error won't help us.
#2198 [20:35] <Wug> what you should do is:
#2199 [20:35] <Wug> run a command prompt
#2200 [20:35] <bluejello> run->cmd right?
#2201 [20:36] <Wug> yes
#2202 [20:36] <Bully006> Command Prompt?
#2203 [20:36] <Wug> launch java manually from said command prompt with this command:
#2204 [20:36] <Wug> java -jar "<minecraft jar name>"
#2205 [20:36] <bluejello> open up run and type in cmd
#2206 [20:36] <Wug> (fill in the full name of the jar where applicable)
#2207 [20:36] <Asasara> hey, earlier I downloaded a texture pack, named Painterly pack, after i installed it, i tried to open minecraft, but it keeps crashing right i log in, on the Mojang loading screen. I've removed the texture pack but the game still wont launch, any idea's?
#2208 [20:36] <Wug> asasara, do you use mods
#2209 [20:37] <Bully006> java -jar "<minecraft jar name>"?
#2210 [20:37] <VoxelHead> have you asked chabby?
#2211 [20:37] <Wug> it should come out like:
#2212 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#2213 [20:37] <Asasara> No
#2214 [20:37] * VoxelHead talks to ArmEagle_ instead
#2214 [20:37] <Wug> java -jar "c:\users\blah blah blah\minecraft.jar"
#2215 [20:38] <bluejello> users\your user name\appdata\.minecraft\bin
#2216 [20:38] <bluejello> something like that for the blah blah blah
#2217 [20:38] <Wug> are you getting 'not recognized as itnernal or external command'?
#2218 [20:38] <ArmEagle_> ohh, highlighted.. to see my nick is off :)
#2219 [20:38] <m0nk> how can i use mod on multiplayer?
#2220 [20:38] <Wug> no, the launcher
#2221 [20:38] <gPad2002> M
#2222 [20:38] <Wug> sorry, it should be:
#2223 [20:38] <gPad2002> m0nk: You can't.
#2224 [20:38] <Wug> java -jar "c:\users\blah blah blah\minecraft launcher.exe"
#2225 [20:39] <m0nk> how come bluexephos can?
#2226 [20:39] <gPad2002> m0nk: Custom server probably
#2227 [20:39] <gPad2002> Plus, he probably wrote the mod
#2228 [20:40] <bluejello> depends on the mod, certain mods work, but as long as they do not add new blocks or change how a block acts.
#2229 [20:40] * m0nk2 [m0nk2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2230 [20:40] <m0nk2> sry dc
#2231 [20:40] <Wug> ghost yourself
#2232 [20:40] <Wug> /ns ghost m0nk
#2233 [20:41] <m0nk2> 0] -NickServ- You may not ghost m0nk.
#2234 [20:41] <Wug> is it registered?
#2235 [20:41] <m0nk2> yes
#2236 [20:41] <Wug> have you authed?
#2237 [20:41] <m0nk2> authed?
#2238 [20:41] <Wug> identified
#2239 [20:41] <m0nk2> identified?
#2240 [20:41] <bluejello> typed in your password
#2241 [20:41] <m0nk2> yes
#2242 [20:41] <bluejello> to log into the account
#2243 [20:42] <m0nk2> ping timeout. takes some time for my other nick to die
#2244 [20:42] <bluejello> around three minutes?
#2245 [20:42] <m0nk> see
#2246 [20:42] <Wug> weird that you cant ghost it
#2247 [20:43] <m0nk> so how can i start custom server?
#2248 [20:45] <bluejello> if I may ask why you want to start a custom server?
#2249 [20:45] <Wug> you set up a regular server, then mod it
#2250 [20:46] <Wug> then start in. :)
#2251 [20:46] <Wug> it*
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#2254 [20:47] <hmw> yesterday i witnessed a discussion about changing the port for the server, which i just checked works perfectly...
#2255 [20:49] <Wug> mmhm...
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#2257 [20:49] <Nomi> if I'm hosting an offline server, so that someone can connect to me through hamachi. I can't seem to connect by local host. and when I do my hamachi IP it lags. is there a way for me to load difrectly into the server on my computer bypassing my wireless card? my wireless card seems to overload server disconect error.
#2258 [20:49] <VoxelHead> cardless wire
#2259 [20:49] <Nomi> sorry for english
#2260 [20:50] <hmw> hamachi is creating a vpn or something similar, right?
#2261 [20:51] <Nomi> yes
#2262 [20:51] <Wug> hosting servers over hamachi has a bunch of issues, and if you can't connect to localhost, I cant think of a way to fix it
#2263 [20:51] <Nomi> they are able to connect to me fine, I cannot seem to connect to myself.
#2264 [20:51] <Nomi> 127.0.01 and local host get connection refused
#2265 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> check server.properties
#2266 [20:52] <Nomi> what do I look for?
#2267 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> make sure server-ip isn't filled in
#2268 [20:52] <Wug> grey, its a hamachi server
#2269 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#2270 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Still don't need to put an IP there
#2271 [20:52] <Wug> I had issues making starcraft work over hamachi because it would bind to the wrong ip
#2272 [20:52] <hmw> hamachi is a wrapper?
#2273 [20:53] <Wug> (sc1)
#2274 [20:53] <luckz> !paid NotDellGuy
#2275 [20:53] <hmw> wut a bot can find that out? security in MC sucks big time
#2276 [20:53] <luckz> hmw: lol
#2277 [20:54] <luckz> "woah tech support tools exist that is shit"
#2278 [20:54] <luckz> I hope everybody who sets server-ip without knowing what that implies dies in a fire
#2279 [20:54] <hmw> lol
#2280 [20:54] <hmw> !paid hmw
#2281 [20:54] <hmw> lol fail
#2282 [20:55] <luckz> GreyVulpine: do you have any clue whether minecraft classic servers have some "public" line?
#2283 [20:55] <VoxelHead> Purple dildos.
#2284 [20:55] <Wug> VOXELHEAD!
#2285 [20:55] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2286 [20:56] <Wug> where did you learn that word
#2287 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> yes it does
#2288 [20:56] <Wug> go to your room
#2289 [20:56] <Bully006> sigh i can't get the code to work
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#2291 [20:56] <Bully006> is there an Easyer way?"
#2292 [20:56] <hmw> Bully006: what are you trying to accomplish?
#2293 [20:57] <Bully006> Trying to get my minecraft download to stop Black Screening and Shuting down
#2294 [20:57] <Bully006> The in Browser Part Black Screens too
#2295 [20:57] <hmw> hmm... under XP i reinstalled Java which solved my heavy low-fps-problem
#2296 [20:57] <Bully006> Did that
#2297 [20:58] <Bully006> i have tryed Every thing i can think of
#2298 [20:58] <hmw> that hurts... reboot, too?
#2299 [20:59] <Bully006> Sigh yup
#2300 [20:59] <Wug> !paid XarcZai
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#2304 [20:59] <hmw> the bot should say "hmw is not registered under this name"
#2305 [21:00] <XarcZai> Hi, can anyone help me? My player skin crashes my client.
#2306 [21:00] <Bully006> What should i do?
#2307 [21:00] <XarcZai> Any skin I use crashes it
#2308 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't know the difference between an account that's not paid, and an account that doesn't exist
#2309 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> XarcZai - It crashes?
#2310 [21:00] <hmw> GreyVulpine: exactly, thats why it shouldnt say "has not payed"
#2311 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> If the account doesn't exist, you can guess that it's not paid
#2312 [21:01] <hmw> !paid notexistingnick
#2313 [21:02] <Bully006> Everything before i try and log in is fine i can see the news and all that but once i hit login it Loads then goes to Black Screen then Shuts down
#2314 [21:02] <Morzan> hi
#2315 [21:02] <XarcZai> GreyVulpine, I paid.
#2316 [21:02] <m0nk> !paid m0nk
#2317 [21:02] <m0nk> lol
#2318 [21:02] <Morzan> !
#2319 [21:02] <Morzan> !paid morzan
#2320 [21:02] <VoxelHead> C to the R I K E Y
#2321 [21:02] <Wug> well
#2322 [21:02] <Bully006> should i just Email Mojang?
#2323 [21:02] <Wug> have you tried force updating?
#2324 [21:03] <VoxelHead> i might know
#2325 [21:03] <XarcZai> Yes, several times.
#2326 [21:03] <hmw> Bully006: better try the forums, i suppose
#2327 [21:03] <XarcZai> After and before putting the skin on, Wug.
#2328 [21:03] <XarcZai> When I upload the skin to the website, it does not show any confirmation either, though.
#2329 [21:03] <XarcZai> It just refreshes the page
#2330 [21:03] <XarcZai> And when I tried clicking the link to show my skin, it says I don't have one on.
#2331 [21:03] <XarcZai> When I had it on before, and it worked.
#2332 [21:03] <Bully006> i have Wug
#2333 [21:03] <hmw> XarcZai: sounds like the png you saved uses another format... the skin uses a palette format, iirc... try to save it with different options and reupload
#2334 [21:04] <XarcZai> Which options should I edit, hmw?
#2335 [21:04] <XarcZai> Another note is I've tried about 5 different skins and they all crash on me
#2336 [21:04] <XarcZai> It's only worked one, and idk how I did it.
#2337 [21:04] <hmw> i use gimp. when i "save as" it offers various options. find something related to how the colors are stored.
#2338 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> How are you installing the skins XarcZai?
#2339 [21:05] <XarcZai> Minecraft.net
#2340 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> using the profile page?
#2341 [21:05] <XarcZai> Yes.
#2342 [21:05] <Wug> i asked him that lol
#2343 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Are these skins you made yourself?
#2344 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Or downloaded somewhere?
#2345 [21:05] <XarcZai> Downloaded.
#2346 [21:05] <Wug> just to make sure he wasnt breaking the jar for some reason
#2347 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> From where?
#2348 [21:05] <XarcZai> Many places.
#2349 [21:05] <XarcZai> I've downloaded it from uhh
#2350 [21:05] <XarcZai> Deviantart (some guy made it)
#2351 [21:06] <XarcZai> umm that website
#2352 [21:06] <Wug> im trying to pm you, but you're not responding
#2353 [21:06] <XarcZai> The skindex or something
#2354 [21:06] <Wug> he's going to try the default skin
#2355 [21:07] <Wug> he also says it only crashes if he fullscreens it
#2356 [21:07] <m0nk> did you extract the .rar file or did you just put the whole .rar file in the texture folder
#2357 [21:07] <Wug> I rather suspect an unrelated video issue
#2358 [21:07] <Wug> its a skin, not a texture pack
#2359 [21:07] <Wug> you upload a png online, it isnt local
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#2361 [21:08] <Razorflame> Got lost again in my mine XD
#2362 [21:08] <Razorflame> but I came out with 13 diamonds :)
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#2364 [21:09] <Bully006> So what do i do guy's?
#2365 [21:09] <m0nk> i need to use you sometime as a sherpa sometime Razorflame
#2366 [21:09] <Razorflame> XD
#2367 [21:09] <Razorflame> I found my way back
#2368 [21:09] <Razorflame> but it took 30 minutes XD
#2369 [21:09] <m0nk> i'm on multiplayer and my friend built a huge ass tower. nearly reaches the skies
#2370 [21:09] <VoxelHead> huge ass-tower
#2371 [21:09] <Razorflame> :)
#2372 [21:09] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#2373 [21:10] <Razorflame> :o
#2374 [21:10] <m0nk> it takes a minute just to walk up there
#2375 [21:10] <Razorflame> Yeah, my house is pretty cool, all out of cobble
#2376 [21:10] <Kokojo> Hellos. Any server admin here? I am having problems with WorldGuard and need some tips.
#2377 [21:10] <m0nk> my chest is full of cobble
#2378 [21:10] <Razorflame> it's in the side of a mountain XD
#2379 [21:10] <m0nk> stone or just cobble?
#2380 [21:10] <Razorflame> Yeah, I've got probably close to 1000 cobble XD
#2381 [21:11] <Razorflame> cobble
#2382 [21:11] <Razorflame> with like 350 stairs XD
#2383 [21:11] <m0nk> omg?
#2384 [21:11] <m0nk> i really need to use you as a sherpa then..
#2385 [21:11] <Razorflame> Yeah, I've been mining a lot
#2386 [21:11] <hmw> lol i got over 12000 cobble in my storage
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#2388 [21:11] <hmw> should be enough for 3 castles
#2389 [21:12] <Razorflame> or one big-ass one
#2390 [21:12] <VoxelHead> big ass-one
#2391 [21:12] <Razorflame> >_>
#2392 [21:12] <Bully006> Sigh i really just want to play minecraft
#2393 [21:13] <Razorflame> bully006: What's the problems?
#2394 [21:13] <hmw> Bully006: OS/CPU/RAM, Firewall/Antivirus, closed every other app?
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#2396 [21:13] <peru_> he bullies Notch as a kid and Notch banned him as a result
#2397 [21:13] <Bully006> yes
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#2399 [21:14] <Bully006> i Black Screen Razorflame and every thing i try does not work
#2400 [21:14] <Razorflame> Sounds like video might not be powerful enough
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#2402 [21:15] <hmw> Razorflame: that must be a REAL old computer... i play on a P4 with a Radeon9600
#2403 [21:15] <Morzan> SINCOSX 98
#2404 [21:15] <Razorflame> I play on Core duo with Radeon as well
#2405 [21:15] <Bully006> i run 512MB of PC3200
#2406 [21:15] * Razorflame pokes Morzan
#2406 [21:15] <Morzan> windows 98
#2407 [21:15] <hmw> wfw3.11?
#2408 [21:16] <Bully006> 3100+ AMD Sempron Processor
#2409 [21:16] <Morzan> whats up razor
#2410 [21:16] <Razorflame> nm
#2411 [21:16] <mib_londfk> hey, i was wondering how to fix this. when i try to download minecraft it says java could not create virtual machine. what do i do?
#2412 [21:16] <Razorflame> Download java
#2413 [21:16] <mib_londfk> i did
#2414 [21:16] <m0nk2> i7 12 gb gt domi 12800 ati 5870 "xxx"
#2415 [21:16] <xales> mib_londfk: How much RAM do you have?
#2416 [21:16] <Razorflame> Download the virtual machine XD
#2417 [21:16] <Morzan> download it again
#2418 [21:17] <mib_londfk> i deleted it and re-downloaded it. still doesn't work
#2419 [21:17] <m0nk2> easy: go to www.java.com and download it
#2420 [21:17] <xales> mib_londfk: How much RAM do you have?
#2421 [21:17] <VoxelHead> mmm Wijk
#2422 [21:17] <mib_londfk> hmm, no idea
#2423 [21:17] <xales> Right click Computer and go to Properties
#2424 [21:17] <xales> it will say there.
#2425 [21:18] <Bully006> is there Any specific place i am saposed to put the Download?
#2426 [21:18] <xales> Bully006: If you are getting regular black screens, it's probably because of your system specs
#2427 [21:19] <xales> they are insufficient to properly run the game
#2428 [21:19] <Wug> oh hi xales
#2429 [21:19] <mib_londfk> i only got 768mb of ram =l
#2430 [21:19] <xales> Hi.
#2431 [21:19] <Wug> vox was shouting about dildos earlier
#2432 [21:19] <xales> mib_londfk: That's really not enough.
#2433 [21:19] <Wug> pkease fix.
#2434 [21:19] <xales> Wug: Not my bot
#2435 [21:19] <hmw> it works with 1GB
#2436 [21:19] <mib_londfk> how would i clear it up?
#2437 [21:19] <hmw> and consumes half a gig
#2438 [21:19] <Razorflame> you can't clear up ram
#2439 [21:19] <xales> mib_londfk: You don't. You buy more/a better computer.
#2440 [21:19] <Razorflame> you have to buy more and put it in the computer
#2441 [21:19] <hmw> mib_londfk: close everything possible
#2442 [21:20] <mib_londfk> oh
#2443 [21:20] <Wug> xales but you are every bot :c
#2444 [21:20] <hmw> mib_londfk: uninstall all those trojans like google toolbarcrap etc
#2445 [21:20] <Bully006> I can run Classic but i can't Run Beta
#2446 [21:20] <Wug> bully, check your pms.
#2447 [21:20] <Razorflame> Beta requires paid pre-purchase
#2448 [21:20] <xales> Bully006: No surprise, given you don't come close to the requirements for it
#2449 [21:20] <Wug> also whats your mc username
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#2451 [21:21] <hmw> perhaps the ram. look up how to assign more ram to the java runtime/the game, perhaps this gets you started
#2452 [21:21] <Morzan> !paid bully006
#2453 [21:21] <xales> 21:14:38 < Bully006> i run 512MB of PC3200
#2454 [21:21] <xales> 512MB
#2455 [21:21] <xales> the game cannot run
#2456 [21:21] <hmw> game doesnt crash, just because you havent paid
#2457 [21:21] <Razorflame> meh...I thought he was talking about not being able to start it XD
#2458 [21:21] <hmw> 512 might be too little... it uses exactly this amount on my pc, and you will need some for the os, too lol
#2459 [21:21] <m0nk> how do someone from the outside join my multiplayer?
#2460 [21:21] <Razorflame> eh
#2461 [21:22] <Razorflame> you give them your server ip address
#2462 [21:22] <m0nk> where do i find that
#2463 [21:22] <hmw> m0nk: if you're behind a router, you need a port forward to the box hosting the game. www.portforward.com for instructions
#2464 [21:22] <Razorflame> ^
#2465 [21:22] <hmw> m0nk: whatsmyip.com
#2466 [21:22] <Razorflame> The cpu I am on can't port forward
#2467 [21:22] <Razorflame> behind a wireless router and internet router XD
#2468 [21:22] <xales> Razorflame: I wasn't aware your CPU had anything to do with networking? :P
#2469 [21:22] <VoxelHead> Routerless wire.
#2470 [21:23] <hmw> cpu?? i am talking about the router. if your router cant portforward, smash it out the window NOW
#2471 [21:23] <Razorflame> xales: it doesn't
#2472 [21:23] <Morzan> Lol
#2473 [21:23] <xales> Also...you could port forward on that sort of setup, you would just need to bridge it or do it twice
#2474 [21:23] <Razorflame> Eh
#2475 [21:23] <Razorflame> I'm fine, really XD
#2476 [21:23] <hmw> Razorflame: then i wouldnt call it a router, perhaps it is in fact just a cable modem?
#2477 [21:23] <Razorflame> Nope
#2478 [21:23] <Razorflame> I get my internet from the Wireless router
#2479 [21:24] <Razorflame> which gets it from the gateway
#2480 [21:24] <Razorflame> I'm on a laptop
#2481 [21:24] <Razorflame> XD
#2482 [21:24] <hmw> Razorflame: you could create a vpn between your server and the people who want to log in, perhaps
#2483 [21:24] <Razorflame> :)
#2484 [21:24] <Razorflame> That's fine
#2485 [21:24] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2486 [21:24] <Razorflame> I like single-player for now
#2487 [21:24] <Razorflame> And have already gotten an invite from someone else to play on their SMP server :)
#2488 [21:24] <hmw> get a real router and use cables
#2489 [21:25] <Razorflame> XD
#2490 [21:26] <Razorflame> Are Zombie Pigmen still passive?
#2491 [21:26] <Razorflame> until attacked
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#2495 [21:32] <zacharycnelson> Hey peeps, just got minecraft
#2496 [21:35] <aetherian> nice
#2497 [21:36] <zacharycnelson> how do i place an object?
#2498 [21:36] <xales> !tutorial
#2499 [21:37] <zacharycnelson> alright thanks
#2500 [21:41] <dopeghoti> xales
#2501 [21:41] <dopeghoti> you're here
#2502 [21:41] <xales> yes
#2503 [21:41] <dopeghoti> you need to fix or rehost the rules as deadlinked in the topic, sir
#2504 [21:42] <xales> indeed ._.
#2505 [21:43] <m0nk> !topic
#2506 [21:43] <xales> /topic
#2507 [21:44] <Wug> IRL: over 6 billion players and counting!
#2508 [21:45] <Morzan> the game called IRL sucks
#2509 [21:45] <Morzan> they rarely update it
#2510 [21:45] <Morzan> and the content is getting hold
#2511 [21:45] <Morzan> old
#2512 [21:45] <hmw> i doubt, that you already have seen it all
#2513 [21:46] <zacharycnelson> ha, okay i watched the tutorial, but it didnt tell me how to place objects
#2514 [21:46] <zacharycnelson> im on a mac, so are the controls different?
#2515 [21:46] <hmw> lol
#2516 [21:46] <Morzan> TBH
#2517 [21:46] <Morzan> id edit the controls
#2518 [21:46] <xales> zacharycnelson: right click
#2519 [21:46] <hmw> select it with the mouse wheel, aim, use right mouse button
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#2521 [21:47] <zacharycnelson> erm, i have no right mouse button
#2522 [21:47] <hmw> rofl macs
#2523 [21:47] <zacharycnelson> its a trackpad
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#2525 [21:47] <Vector> [18:04:06] <Wug> IRL: over 6 billion players and counting!
#2526 [21:47] <Vector> Are you like the ultimate computer nerd?
#2527 [21:47] <Morzan> lolol
#2528 [21:47] <Morzan> TROLOLOL
#2529 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Then use the apple+trackpad button
#2530 [21:47] <VoxelHead> lordy
#2531 [21:47] <zacharycnelson> hahahahahaha
#2532 [21:47] <VoxelHead> You lie... YOU LIEEEEEEE*#$~^$^£#^$.
#2533 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#2534 [21:48] <zacharycnelson> doesnt do anything
#2535 [21:48] <Wug> did you not notice: * dizzyone has quit (Quit: OUTSIDE. The new MMORPG from the creators of smash-hit "IRL")
#2536 [21:48] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#2536 [21:48] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#2537 [21:48] * Wug hurls voxelhead
#2537 [21:48] <xales> zacharycnelson: put two fingers on the trackpad and click the mouse ._.
#2538 [21:48] <Vector> lmao
#2539 [21:48] <Vector> dizzyone has foiled us all
#2540 [21:49] <Wug> lol macs
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#2542 [21:49] <Wug> buy a mouse with 2 buttons
#2543 [21:49] <Vector> oh
#2544 [21:49] <Vector> macs
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#2546 [21:49] <Vector> are those the things with only one mouse button?
#2547 [21:49] <Wug> i think so
#2548 [21:49] <Wug> they sux
#2549 [21:49] <Vector> ya
#2550 [21:49] <Vector> i also think they used to not come with an eject button
#2551 [21:49] <Vector> so what if it crashed, and you wanted to eject your disc
#2552 [21:50] <Vector> CAN'T MOVE THE CD-ROM ICON TO THE TRASH CAN
#2553 [21:50] <Morzan> calm down sir
#2554 [21:51] <dopeghoti> Vector: want to eject the disk? hold down the eject button or, lacking that, E as in eject when powering on the system
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#2556 [21:51] <dopeghoti> Also, McMice have had two buttons for nearly a decade now
#2557 [21:51] <m0nk> can someone do me a favour
#2558 [21:51] <m0nk> ?
#2559 [21:51] <m0nk> *
#2560 [21:51] <dopeghoti> well, technically zero buttons, but YKWIM
#2561 [21:51] <dopeghoti> m0nk: depends upon the favor
#2562 [21:51] <Morzan> STATE THE FAVOR
#2563 [21:52] <m0nk> check portforwarding for speedtouch 780 wlt
#2564 [21:52] <m0nk> i dont have a account there
#2565 [21:52] <dopeghoti> m0nk: http://portforward.com
#2566 [21:52] <m0nk> i did but i needed to register
#2567 [21:52] <dopeghoti> what.
#2568 [21:52] <dopeghoti> the site is free.
#2569 [21:53] <Vector> why would someone need to register to that site...
#2570 [21:53] <Bully006> How do i Update my Video Card Drivers?
#2571 [21:53] <Vector> search the vendor's site for your driver
#2572 [21:53] <m0nk> all i get to is this http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/Speedtouch780v6/fpadvert.htm
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#2574 [21:54] * dopeghoti points at 'click here to skip this advertisement'
#2574 [21:54] <Vector> LOL
#2575 [21:54] <m0nk> oh lord
#2576 [21:55] <dopeghoti> that'll be €4.
#2577 [21:55] <hmw> m0nk: that looks a but suspicious, i wouldnt download that
#2578 [21:55] <hmw> a bit*
#2579 [21:55] <Vector> um
#2580 [21:55] <Vector> dopeghoti
#2581 [21:55] <hmw> port forwarding is a quite simple concept
#2582 [21:55] <Vector> i only see a square, i don't see a dollar sign
#2583 [21:56] <Takigu> its not a dollar sign
#2584 [21:56] <Vector> what is it
#2585 [21:56] <Takigu> its a euro sign
#2586 [21:56] <Vector> oh
#2587 [21:56] * Razorflame [Razorflame@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2588 [21:56] <Takigu> not sure if thats the correct term but oh well
#2589 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> hmw - Try walking people through double or triple NAT-ed setups, where they don't know how to get their local ip, or remember their username/password for their router
#2590 [21:56] <Vector> see if those directions are similar for your router, m0nk
#2591 [21:57] <m0nk> it is
#2592 [21:57] <iban> Hey guys, can you redownload minecraft on a new computer whenever you get a new one? How does that work?
#2593 [21:57] <Takigu> so quick question
#2594 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes iban
#2595 [21:57] <hmw> GreyVulpine: well, you made a point there. i remembered portforward.com to be a very cool site with simple instructions... but this page is weird
#2596 [21:57] <Takigu> i cant open my bag in game in smp or single player
#2597 [21:57] <hmw> iban: you could even just copy the folder
#2598 [21:57] <Takigu> anyone know whats up?
#2599 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> It's all tied to your account login iban. As long as you can remember your minecraft username/password, you can download/play it on any computer
#2600 [21:57] <iban> sweet!
#2601 [21:57] <hmw> Takigu: did you switch to full screen before? (F11) thats a bug
#2602 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Takigu - What do you mean?
#2603 [21:58] <VoxelHead> sweeeeeeet!
#2604 [21:58] <iban> thanks grey
#2605 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Does "E" not work?
#2606 [21:58] <iban> do you know the file size of the game?
#2607 [21:59] <Razorflame> Mine is ~49MB
#2608 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> About 44 megs for me
#2609 [21:59] <Razorflame> But worlds take up good amount of space
#2610 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> minus my saves and texture packs
#2611 [22:00] <Razorflame> Pretty small file size for the graphics of the game
#2612 [22:01] <hmw> the graphics itself is pretty low level, but the programming (3d) makes it look more sophisticated
#2613 [22:01] <Razorflame> yep
#2614 [22:01] <hmw> and code doesnt take up much space
#2615 [22:01] <iban> i just deleted 63,000 kb worth of pictures, so it sounds like i should be good.
#2616 [22:01] <Takigu> yeah i did but i have uninstalled the game and it still does it
#2617 [22:02] <hmw> iban: i extended my map a bit by walking around, making it roughly 8 times larger and now the map uses 120MB
#2618 [22:02] <Takigu> i hit i and my bag doesnt open
#2619 [22:02] <dopeghoti> Takigu: try 'e'
#2620 [22:02] <Razorflame> Takigu: The button is "e" now
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#2622 [22:02] <TheNytangel> i made a pork chop factory :D
#2623 [22:03] <dopeghoti> 'e' as in 'next to wasd, so that you don't have to move your hand'
#2624 [22:03] <Takigu> why would they change that without puting it in the patch notes....
#2625 [22:03] <Razorflame> They did
#2626 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> They did
#2627 [22:03] <dopeghoti> because they did
#2628 [22:03] * VoxelHead wins GreyVulpine and Razorflame
#2628 [22:03] <Razorflame> :o
#2629 [22:03] <VoxelHead> crumbs
#2630 [22:03] <Takigu> well now i feel dumb
#2631 [22:03] <TheNytangel> hmm.. maybe voxel cares..
#2632 [22:03] <dopeghoti> don't feel dumb; feel enlightened!
#2633 [22:03] <TheNytangel> VoxelHead, i made a pork chop factory :D
#2634 [22:03] <dopeghoti> vox, dive Takigu a hug
#2635 [22:03] <VoxelHead> bye mash
#2636 [22:03] <dopeghoti> vox, give Takigu a hug
#2637 [22:04] <VoxelHead> *huggles with Takigu*
#2638 [22:04] <Vector> Voxel, be my valentine
#2639 [22:04] <TheNytangel> voxel is a smart bot..
#2640 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history - Version 1.4
#2641 [22:05] <TheNytangel> right vox. your a smart cookie :P
#2642 [22:05] * VoxelHead has its moments.
#2642 [22:06] <Razorflame> vox, you can't win me :/
#2643 [22:07] <dopeghoti> vox, can you win razorflame?
#2644 [22:07] <VoxelHead> but i have no ARMS... NO ARMS@#%percent$^*!~%percent*
#2645 [22:07] * VoxelHead runs away
#2645 [22:07] <dopeghoti> guess ey was right.
#2646 [22:08] <Vector> Voxel, where are you?
#2647 [22:08] <VoxelHead> in Chippenham
#2648 [22:09] <Corporal_Dirge> How do I get a higher angle on my TNT cannons?
#2649 [22:09] <iban> CVC/CVV code on a credit card is three digits or four? (or seven?) ... purchasing the game :D
#2650 [22:11] <dopeghoti> iban: depends on the card.
#2651 [22:11] <dopeghoti> Visa are usually three, AmEx four.. not sure about MasterCard
#2652 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> 3
#2653 [22:12] <dopeghoti> makes sense, MC is just a different hat for Visa
#2654 [22:12] <dopeghoti> TTANTS: MC, MC
#2655 [22:13] <iban> Bad video card drivers! Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#2656 [22:13] <iban> T____T
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#2658 [22:15] <bletch> i have a problem!
#2659 [22:15] <dopeghoti> ?? ask
#2660 [22:15] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2661 [22:15] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2662 [22:15] <hmw> there are no problems, only solutions.
#2663 [22:15] <bletch> so like
#2664 [22:15] <bletch> i hit a rock and lava came down
#2665 [22:15] <bletch> and im stuck on a rock sorrounded by a lake of lava
#2666 [22:15] <bletch> and im unsure on how to get out
#2667 [22:15] <hmw> oh my
#2668 [22:15] <hmw> place dirt or stones
#2669 [22:15] <Vector> so you call tech support!
#2670 [22:15] <bletch> i have none
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#2672 [22:16] <Vector> anything at all?
#2673 [22:16] <bletch> i have a pick!
#2674 [22:16] <bletch> and some coal
#2675 [22:16] <Vector> bleh
#2676 [22:16] <bletch> and torches
#2677 [22:16] <dopeghoti> so start digging up
#2678 [22:16] <bletch> FUCK
#2679 [22:16] <bletch> creeper just
#2680 [22:16] <dopeghoti> not _directly_ up
#2681 [22:16] <bletch> killed me
#2682 [22:16] <Vector> digging up? lol
#2683 [22:16] <dopeghoti> dig yourself a stair
#2684 [22:17] <dopeghoti> or die; that'll work too
#2685 [22:17] <Vector> how did a creeper kill you if you were isolated lol
#2686 [22:17] <dopeghoti> isolated in the _dark_, Vector
#2687 [22:17] <Vector> he has torches though
#2688 [22:17] <hmw> he probably was carrying a time bomb and it just went off
#2689 [22:17] <bletch> ya its one of those blowing up ones
#2690 [22:17] <Vector> :P
#2691 [22:17] <bletch> and i had like no health left
#2692 [22:18] <bluejello> I just found five diamons, and ran out of torches in a cave. Afterwords getting lost in said cave
#2693 [22:18] <hmw> it's cool, that this channel doesn't have the usual rigid rules... or are the ops just sleeping?
#2694 [22:18] <bluejello> ended up teleporting out because thsi was in multiplayer.
#2695 [22:18] <bluejello> as long as no one is asking for help it is a free for all I think.
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#2697 [22:18] <hmw> i see some quite strong language here often
#2698 [22:19] <hmw> i mean, i dont have a problem with that, but it should be assumed, that young people log in here, too
#2699 [22:19] <bluejello> I perfer people to not use strong language but can live with it.
#2700 [22:20] <hmw> no parents ever threatened to sue someone responsible?
#2701 [22:21] <bluejello> unknown
#2702 [22:21] <bluejello> to me at least.
#2703 [22:22] <hmw> probably not. i enjoy the freedom here.
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#2705 [22:22] <hmw> most support channels kick you beyond the moon, if you use strong language or link to certain web sites
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#2708 [22:25] <AG_Scott> This is a privately run channel.
#2709 [22:25] <AG_Scott> The parents are at fault for not monitoring their children.
#2710 [22:25] <m0nk> if i dont have my computer name on the drop down box in game & application sharing what ip do i use?
#2711 [22:25] <hmw> indeed. i was refering to the RunUO channel, for instance, also private
#2712 [22:25] <hmw> m0nk: whatsmyip.com
#2713 [22:26] <m0nk> so i use static from the provider?
#2714 [22:26] <hmw> of course
#2715 [22:26] <m0nk> k ty
#2716 [22:26] <AG_Scott> No court in their right mind would accept a lawsuit because their children were objected to foul language.
#2717 [22:26] <hmw> m0nk: wait... do YOU want to connect or someone outside?
#2718 [22:27] <m0nk> someon outside
#2719 [22:28] <hmw> AG_Scott: i don't know.... we hear weird stories about stuff going on in the US all the time... there was this teacher, who almost got in jail for up to 60 years for "exposing minors to pornography"... her pc had a popup-problem. and the admin wasnt updating the firewall. and only after thousands of hackers and other people all over the wolrd sent mail to the judge, they started to consider to consult a real IT technician. she is fre
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#2721 [22:29] <AG_Scott> hmw, this isn't a school and we have no obligation to protect minors. Posting such content in here isn't allow anyways.
#2722 [22:29] <AG_Scott> allowed*
#2723 [22:29] <hmw> yea... i dont like the strong language either, it makes a weird atmosphere for a support channel
#2724 [22:30] <AG_Scott> Well you're free to leave.
#2725 [22:30] <hmw> i am not complaining
#2726 [22:31] <bluejello> [ czech -> english ]to those, autotranslate for the words k ty
#2727 [22:31] <bluejello> do not ask
#2728 [22:31] <m0nk> wc?
#2729 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> The ops will take action, if strong language is used alongside harassing other users of this channel, or if it causes a disturbance that is not conducive to actual support..
#2730 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, I couldn't care less
#2731 [22:31] <hmw> does this happen?
#2732 [22:31] <hmw> i mean often
#2733 [22:31] <m0nk> hmw: what do i do if i want ppl to connect to it from outside?
#2734 [22:32] <hmw> m0nk: you need a port forward probably, and they need to use your public ip
#2735 [22:32] <m0nk> and that is the static one?
#2736 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> People are usually very civil, haven't had to kick many for strong language
#2737 [22:32] <hmw> m0nk: sounds like that
#2738 [22:33] <bluejello> hopefully it is static, if it is dynamic then it is a huge pain to get the IP out.
#2739 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> No real pain, set a static internal IP, port forward to that, use a free dyndns service
#2740 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> People will use the same dyndns address, even if your ip changes
#2741 [22:33] <hmw> my isp uses dynamic ips, but they never change them in fact lol
#2742 [22:34] <m0nk> is it udp or tcp?
#2743 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> TCP/25565
#2744 [22:34] <bluejello> if you use the default port,
#2745 [22:34] <bluejello> if you set the port to something different then use that port, but the default works the best unless you have multible servers running off one comp
#2746 [22:35] <hmw> is that even feasible?
#2747 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2748 [22:35] <hmw> cool
#2749 [22:35] <hmw> very cool... test server/anonymous guest server/my real holy server
#2750 [22:35] <bluejello> but you want a good bandwith and good computer for that most likely
#2751 [22:35] <hmw> what is a good bandwidth for one server?
#2752 [22:36] <hmw> or for one player
#2753 [22:36] <AG_Scott> Depends on how many players.
#2754 [22:36] <AG_Scott> I think it's .25mbit per player
#2755 [22:36] <hmw> thx
#2756 [22:36] <m0nk> it doesnt work and i've followed portforwarding
#2757 [22:36] <hmw> m0nk: did they pay for the game?
#2758 [22:36] <m0nk> no one has tried to connected yet
#2759 [22:37] <hmw> ...
#2760 [22:37] <hmw> so what doesnt work?
#2761 [22:37] <m0nk> port checker says tcp is blocked by some other program
#2762 [22:37] <m0nk> so it cant check even though i set it to tcp/25565 in router
#2763 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Is the server running?
#2764 [22:37] <m0nk> yes
#2765 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> And you port forwarded 25565-25565 to what ip address?
#2766 [22:38] <m0nk> static
#2767 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> That's not a correct answer...
#2768 [22:38] <m0nk> hmm
#2769 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> What ip address did you port forward to?
#2770 [22:38] <m0nk> do you need me to say my ip in here?
#2771 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> It's an internal IP address, doesn't do you any harm
#2772 [22:38] <hmw> he wants to hear something like 192.168.0.1 (which is a private ip)
#2773 [22:39] <hmw> or perhaps 10.0.0.x
#2774 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> I just want to confirm that he's port forwarding to the right ip, next I'll have him check his server's ip, make sure it matches up
#2775 [22:40] <m0nk> 1st i followed http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/Speedtouch780v6/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2776 [22:40] <m0nk> and then i creeped around setting the tcp 25565 a couple times
#2777 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Could I please have you tell me the ip address you port forwarded to?
#2778 [22:40] <m0nk> but i dont think i connected it to a ip
#2779 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then what computer name did you port forward to?
#2780 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Or device ID?
#2781 [22:41] <m0nk> ah that
#2782 [22:41] <m0nk> ehm
#2783 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> God, I hate these combination modem/routers
#2784 [22:42] <hmw> yah they suck
#2785 [22:42] <m0nk> sent you a pm
#2786 [22:42] <Vector> start -> run -> cmd.exe (hit enter) -> ipconfig -> look for "IP Address"
#2787 [22:42] <Vector> that's what you'd to add to the port forwarding entry
#2788 [22:43] <m0nk> i'l try that
#2789 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Vector - It's a thompson modem/router, they go by device id/computer name
#2790 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Along with many other modem/routers
#2791 [22:43] <hmw> device id? mac address??
#2792 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> computer name
#2793 [22:43] <VoxelHead> What do you think?
#2794 [22:43] <hmw> uhm... smb??
#2795 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#2796 [22:43] <VoxelHead> :(
#2797 [22:44] <hmw> i use old hardware mainly... i dont have any upnp stuff so i dont have expirience with that more modern stuff
#2798 [22:44] <Vector> an oldschool guy eh
#2799 [22:44] <Vector> heh
#2800 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> m0nk - Would you be willing to let me remote into your machine to set it up for you?
#2801 [22:45] <hmw> i like to be in control of my network
#2802 [22:45] <Vector> C:\Documents and Settings\XPDoctor>ipconfig /all
#2803 [22:45] <Vector> Windows IP Configuration
#2804 [22:45] <Vector> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : OWNAGE-STATION
#2805 [22:45] <m0nk> how
#2806 [22:45] <Vector> add the /all switch
#2807 [22:45] <Vector> then look at your host name
#2808 [22:45] <Vector> that's what you'll need to add then
#2809 [22:52] <m0nk> i think it works now
#2810 [22:52] <m0nk> what ip do others need for connecting
#2811 [22:52] <m0nk> the portchecker was a go
#2812 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Your public ip
#2813 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> whatever ip is given by whatismyip.com or ipchicken
#2814 [22:53] <VoxelHead> hooray for earth!
#2815 [22:53] <m0nk> who wants to join?
#2816 [22:54] <m0nk> so.. everyone's asleep now?
#2817 [22:55] * DrZoidbe [DrZoidbe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2818 [22:55] <DrZoidbe> hey
#2819 [22:55] <hmw> m0nk: if you dont like to give your ip to strangers, it might become a little difficult for us to join ;-)
#2820 [22:56] <DrZoidbe> someone ever has run minecraft on solaris ? I have a problem wiht the java has a unsatisfied link error ...
#2821 [22:56] <hmw> lol ownage-station.... power gamer, i suppose?
#2822 [22:56] <hmw> DrZoidbe: i dont have, but sounds like a wrong link to the jre executable... perhaps they changed it to non-lowercase or such
#2823 [22:57] * TheNytangel` [TheNytangel`@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2824 [22:57] <DrZoidbe> hmw: the login runs , but then happen notihing an my screen went black ... an i have tried the new libiaries
#2825 [22:57] <Vector> lol hmw
#2826 [22:57] <Vector> that's because the owner of the machine just... owns :P
#2827 [22:58] <TheNytangel`> i told you so
#2828 [22:58] <Vector> i own
#2829 [22:58] <Vector> that's all there is to it
#2830 [22:58] <Vector> my station is a station of ownage
#2831 [22:58] <Vector> oh cool
#2832 [22:58] <Vector> his first octet is the same as mine
#2833 [23:01] <aetherian> psst
#2834 [23:01] <aetherian> guys
#2835 [23:01] <aetherian> I forget
#2836 [23:01] <aetherian> what was the fix to that popular blackscreen bug? reinstalling?
#2837 [23:02] <DrZoidbe> aetherian: ok reinstalling ... i have downloaded the newest version of minecraft ..
#2838 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> There is no one solution
#2839 [23:03] * iban is updating drivers.. what a pain!
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#2841 [23:09] <RockCrystal> Hello
#2842 [23:10] <DrZoidbe> hi RockCrystal
#2843 [23:10] <RockCrystal> Hi ^^ I'm having trouble applying a skin, can you help me?
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#2845 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> What kind of trouble?
#2846 [23:11] <VoxelHead> Mmm iban.
#2847 [23:11] <bread> lol
#2848 [23:11] <RockCrystal> when I try to upload the file, nothing happens
#2849 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> That's normal, there's no confirmation page
#2850 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Just relaunch minecraft, and use f5 to check yourself out in third person view
#2851 [23:12] <RockCrystal> okay, but I also can't see my skin when I click on the link
#2852 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Also normal, the preview page has been disabled
#2853 [23:12] <RockCrystal> oh. Alright, I'll try that
#2854 [23:13] <RockCrystal> Yes, it's working. Thank you ^^
#2855 [23:13] * GreyVulpine nods
#2855 [23:14] <bluejello> I should work on getting a new skin for me...
#2856 [23:16] <Dark_Fox> It'd be nice if the minecraft player models could have tails
#2857 [23:17] <bluejello> or other objects going off them
#2858 [23:17] <bluejello> beside the arm and legs.
#2859 [23:17] <Dark_Fox> schwing
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#2862 [23:19] <bluejello> it appears you can not add pure red into the char picture...
#2863 [23:20] <bluejello> it may be the program I am using... need to play around in gimp a bit more.
#2864 [23:20] <Dark_Fox> I'd recommend against using gimp.. For anything..
#2865 [23:20] <TitanicMustSink> I know I have asked this before, but I never really got a confirmed answer, I was wondering if my video card
#2866 [23:21] <bluejello> dark_fox, why?
#2867 [23:21] <TitanicMustSink> Intel(R) Q965/Q963 Express Chipset Family was making minecraft mess up or if something is wrong with my computer
#2868 [23:21] <Dark_Fox> It breaks pretty easily
#2869 [23:21] <bluejello> on-board graphics should be fine, but typically lower framerates.
#2870 [23:22] <Wug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R5QueuvKQ4
#2871 [23:22] <bluejello> why?
#2872 [23:22] <bluejello> it seems gimp crashed.
#2873 [23:23] <Dark_Fox> told ya
#2874 [23:23] <TitanicMustSink> When I try to play it is so bad that I can't even see the creature or animals, and the blocks are all fragmented, it's just horrible
#2875 [23:23] <Wug> have you updated the drivers
#2876 [23:23] <bluejello> could you get a picture to us? but first try updating the drivers
#2877 [23:24] <bluejello> do a google search for intel auto update and click on the first link
#2878 [23:24] <TitanicMustSink> Already updated all my drivers, and my video card appears to be working just fine, except I no longer have the 64 bit options for my color quality
#2879 [23:24] <Wug> have you tried linux?
#2880 [23:25] <VoxelHead> what?
#2881 [23:25] <Vector> im bored
#2882 [23:25] <TitanicMustSink> huh?
#2883 [23:25] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE bored? feel these nipples!
#2884 [23:25] <Vector> playing around with FreeBSD in a VM
#2885 [23:25] <Vector> VOXEL, LET ME SCREW YOU UP
#2886 [23:25] <bluejello> I do not think I have ever seen 64 bit for color depth.
#2887 [23:25] <TitanicMustSink> oh
#2888 [23:25] <Wug> linux support for intel integrated ships is much better than windows
#2889 [23:25] <bluejello> I have tried ubuntu linux
#2890 [23:25] <Wug> you may consider trying it.
#2891 [23:25] <Wug> ?? ubuntu
#2892 [23:25] <Wug> ?? linux
#2893 [23:25] <TitanicMustSink> oh you mean another OS?
#2894 [23:25] <Wug> yes
#2895 [23:25] <bluejello> linux,
#2896 [23:26] <bluejello> the umbuntu is the distro
#2897 [23:26] <bluejello> ubuntu*
#2898 [23:26] <TitanicMustSink> oh god, I don't know, that would be a huge change, and minecraft usto work for me with windows, before I restored
#2899 [23:27] <bluejello> wubi allows for you to install ubuntu on top of a windows install
#2900 [23:27] <bluejello> nice for trying it out. but the computer should still run minecraft...
#2901 [23:28] <TitanicMustSink> I know, I don't understand, it worked before, I redid windows, now it doesn't work
#2902 [23:28] <bluejello> so you have the latest java ?
#2903 [23:28] <bluejello> that could be the problem.
#2904 [23:29] <TitanicMustSink> Yep, I've got the latest Java
#2905 [23:30] <bluejello> so that is not the problem
#2906 [23:30] <bluejello> tried reinstalling minecraft?
#2907 [23:31] <TitanicMustSink> Not since I got it to stop opengl erroring on me, let me try that
#2908 [23:32] <TitanicMustSink> Nope, didn't work
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#2910 [23:33] <bluejello> it may be opengl then, can you get us a screenshot of the problem?
#2911 [23:34] <TitanicMustSink> Oh, yeah, how do I put a screen shot on here?
#2912 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Upload it to a site like imgur.com
#2913 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#2914 [23:38] <TitanicMustSink> http://img830.imageshack.us/i/mincraftscreenshot.png/ I think I did that right
#2915 [23:39] <bluejello> that is...strange
#2916 [23:40] <bluejello> I wonder if it has something to do with the windows skin
#2917 [23:40] <bluejello> but probably not.
#2918 [23:41] <Tails_155[^w^]> lol@DarkFox highlighting me
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#2920 [23:41] <Tails_155[^w^]> my house is looking snazzy
#2921 [23:42] <Tails_155[^w^]> I gotta take an updated screenie soon
#2922 [23:42] <Tails_155[^w^]> the place has so many torches
#2923 [23:43] <TitanicMustSink> Will if it did have something to do with the Windows skin, how would I fix it?
#2924 [23:44] <bluejello> what did you install to get the skin like that?
#2925 [23:44] <bluejello> windows, not minecraft
#2926 [23:44] <bluejello> and minecraft is like that no matter what the graphic pack is?
#2927 [23:45] <TitanicMustSink> I'm not very tech savy, but I had a friend of my try a bunch of stuff out, and nothing fixed it
#2928 [23:45] <TitanicMustSink> And do you mean the disney stuff?
#2929 [23:46] <bluejello> yea that is what I mean by the skin
#2930 [23:47] <bluejello> wait, did you try changing the graphic settings to disable smooth ligting?
#2931 [23:47] <bluejello> lighting*
#2932 [23:47] <TitanicMustSink> Oh, ok, just checking, it came with this version of Windows,
#2933 [23:47] <bluejello> can you find out the verson of windows? because that is not in any verson I know of.
#2934 [23:48] <bluejello> but anyways
#2935 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, it's a custom theme installed with a disney application or game
#2936 [23:48] <TitanicMustSink> Another friend of my, the one who redid my windows
#2937 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to look at your display options in the control panel.
#2938 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> There'll be an option to change a theme
#2939 [23:49] <bluejello> wouldnt that be right click-properties?
#2940 [23:49] <bluejello> appearance
#2941 [23:49] <TitanicMustSink> Oh I see
#2942 [23:50] <GreyVulpine> If I could tell what the base windows install was, I would tell you..
#2943 [23:50] <TitanicMustSink> The theme came with the windows, it was installed but not active, i had to change it to it
#2944 [23:50] <TitanicMustSink> No, it stills plays like that no matter what my skin is
#2945 [23:51] <bluejello> ok, my computer-> view system information -> the information is there.
#2946 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> I can't see what's going on with your minecraft in that screenshot
#2947 [23:52] <bluejello> can you, or have you, tried changing the smoothlighitng setting to off from on?
#2948 [23:52] <TitanicMustSink> yes, the smooth lighting is off, has been
#2949 [23:53] <bluejello> and I assume fast graphic setting
#2950 [23:53] <bluejello> wonder if deleting the .exe and the .minecraft folder and downloading the launcher from the website would fix it.
#2951 [23:54] <TitanicMustSink> huh? that's all i have ever done, downloaded from the website
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#2953 [23:55] <bluejello> no, redo it
#2954 [23:55] <bluejello> um, windowkey+R, type in %appdata% then delete the /.minecraft folder
#2955 [23:56] <bluejello> unless you have saves
#2956 [23:56] <bluejello> then go into the folder and delete everything but the save folder.
#2957 [23:56] <TitanicMustSink> No, no saves
#2958 [23:56] <bluejello> try that and report back then.
#2959 [23:57] <bluejello> or open up start menu and hit run to skip the windowkey+R step.
#2960 [23:57] <TitanicMustSink> Go into the minecraft folder and delete all, or just delete the minecraft folder it's self?
#2961 [23:57] <bluejello> delete the folder itself if you have no saves.
#2962 [23:58] <TitanicMustSink> Then redownload from the website?
#2963 [23:58] <bluejello> yes
#2964 [23:59] <bluejello> if this works not I am out of ideas.