#MinecraftHelp > 2011-04-17
#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Another GLaDOS calculation almost complete
#2 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> 99.5%
#3 [00:00] <Kealper> :o
#4 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> http://www.aperturescience.com/glados@home/
#5 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> the valvearg channel's taking bets on how much time this takes off
#6 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> first one took off 50 minutes, next one did 40
#7 [00:03] <Kealper> lol
#8 [00:04] <Kealper> speaking of promotions for games
#9 [00:04] <Kealper> i wonder how many new sales Mojang could score if they did another free weekend
#10 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#11 [00:04] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#12 [00:04] <Kealper> it'd probably be a ton....the dealer always gives the first gram for free, to get ya hooked :o
#13 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> It shaved off an hour
#14 [00:06] <Kealper> well..they certainly like screwing with people's minds lol
#15 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I was looking forward to playing portal2 this weekend
#16 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> But noooo.. valve had to continue this silly ARG game
#17 [00:07] <Kealper> Kramer has l4d2 O.o
#18 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#19 [00:08] <Kealper> steam just said Kramer is now playing l4d2...didn't know he had that game, too lol
#20 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Aah.
#21 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Welp, going to do my part.
#22 [00:11] * GreyVulpine launches killing floor
#22 [00:11] <Kealper> xD
#23 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Hey, there's a portal 2 level in KF
#24 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> overgrown and everything
#25 [00:11] <Kealper> O.o
#26 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Also a couple of potato achievements
#27 [00:12] <xales> GreyVulpine: http://hasportal2launchedyet.com/
#28 [00:12] <VoxelHead> that depends. Who's asking?
#29 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I saw, lukegb's site?
#30 [00:12] <xales> Indeed, at the bottom is 'actual' time left
#31 [00:12] <xales> based on current rate of progression
#32 [00:13] <oldtopmanserver> cool
#33 [00:14] <oldtopmanserver> Too bad I can't do defense grid, even though I own it :(
#34 [00:14] <oldtopmanserver> Linux =/= Steam/Valve/Portal
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#36 [00:16] <Kealper> oldtopmanserver: tried wine? i've heard of people having success with that
#37 [00:17] <LordTrevor> Tried wine with what?
#38 [00:17] <Kealper> steam
#39 [00:17] <LordTrevor> Yea its supposed to work
#40 [00:18] <LordTrevor> Or so ive been told
#41 [00:18] * Zerillius [Zerillius@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#42 [00:18] <Zerillius> ne there?
#43 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#44 [00:18] <Zerillius> anyone there?
#45 [00:18] <Zerillius> lol Kealper u still here?
#46 [00:18] <Zerillius> I reinstalled java
#47 [00:18] <Zerillius> imma see if it works now...
#48 [00:19] <Kealper> i love my headphones
#49 [00:20] <Kealper> if you touch them while music is playing, you can feel the whole things vibrate from the bass \o/
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#51 [00:24] <Zerillius> ummm it STILL DOESNT WORK!!!
#52 [00:24] <Zerillius> this is getting annoying
#53 [00:24] <Kealper> O.o
#54 [00:24] <Zerillius> it was doing good at first like half a second then BAM
#55 [00:24] <Zerillius> same thing...
#56 [00:25] <Kealper> hmm....you're having the mouse/keyboard issues, right? (sorry, lots of people come through here lol)
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#59 [00:28] <Zerillius> yeah I know u probably dont remember my problem very well...
#60 [00:29] <Kealper> i remember the problem lol, just making sure you were the one who had it :P
#61 [00:29] <Zerillius> want me to restate my problem?
#62 [00:29] * thien369852 [thien369852@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#63 [00:29] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: have you heard of any issues with using the mouse and keyboard at the same time in classic?
#64 [00:29] <VoxelHead> no, never, not me
#65 [00:30] <thien369852> hello everyone i need help about minecarts
#66 [00:30] <VoxelHead> I've already got one
#67 [00:30] <VoxelHead> yes yes, it's very nice
#68 [00:30] <Kealper> thien369852: what sort of help?
#69 [00:30] <thien369852> indestructible minecarts
#70 [00:30] <Kealper> oh crap...forgot that grey was playing KF right now....
#71 [00:30] <Kealper> Zerillius: let me look around and see if i can find anything on it
#72 [00:31] <Zerillius> alright, do u have a log of peoples error or just look around in the forums?
#73 [00:31] <Kealper> thien369852: indestructable?
#74 [00:31] <thien369852> yep
#75 [00:31] <bluejello> you want them indestructable or they are?
#76 [00:31] <Kealper> Zerillius: i have a few places i check, the forums being not one of them lol
#77 [00:31] <thien369852> they are
#78 [00:31] <VoxelHead> They are... thare.
#79 [00:31] <Zerillius> ok lol
#80 [00:32] <bluejello> YAY voxelhead is back :P
#81 [00:32] <Kealper> i hate the forums, they are just like...a smelting pot of festering stupidity
#82 [00:32] <thien369852> Using alot of boosters causing my minecarts on the entire map indestructable
#83 [00:32] <bluejello> helpful for finding mods, but not much more
#84 [00:32] <Zerillius> Their not very organized :/
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#86 [00:33] <bluejello> true, and the "one stop mod shop" has a few mods on it, but nothing near the ammount that are acuall released.
#87 [00:33] <Zerillius> Find anything Kealper?
#88 [00:33] <Kealper> Zerillius: not yet :/
#89 [00:34] * bluejello tosses voxelhead into a portal
#89 [00:34] <VoxelHead> Blblblblblblbl.
#90 [00:34] <Zerillius> its all good, Im listening to music so its ALL good.
#91 [00:34] <Kealper> lol
#92 [00:34] * Kealper is listening to the Trine OST from the Humble Bundle atm
#92 [00:34] <VoxelHead> ooh, I like that one
#93 [00:35] <thien369852> any1 help me
#94 [00:35] <Zerillius> Wow that was depressing, I was on classic and it worked for like 10 seconds then froze lol.
#95 [00:35] <Kealper> :/
#96 [00:35] <Kealper> Zerillius: do you have another mouse somewhere you can try?
#97 [00:36] <bluejello> voxelhead, can you help?
#98 [00:36] <VoxelHead> just show me where to sign *squeaky*
#99 [00:36] <Zerillius> yeah. But it worked before with this mouse
#100 [00:36] <Kealper> Zerillius: give that a try for a sec to see if it's a game problem or a driver problem
#101 [00:36] <Zerillius> ill go get my WHEEL mouse
#102 [00:36] <Kealper> bluejello: vox is a bot
#103 [00:36] <VoxelHead> LIES, ALL LIES
#104 [00:36] <VoxelHead> unless a witness steps forward
#105 [00:37] * bluejello steps forwards
#105 [00:37] <bluejello> I know that you are a bot voxelhead. that is why it is fun to make fun of you
#106 [00:37] <bluejello> the random responces.
#107 [00:38] <Kealper> oh lol, most people who come here think vox is a person and try to talk to it
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#109 [00:38] <Kealper> thien369852: do they go away when you reconnect to the server?
#110 [00:38] <bluejello> what was that command for him that makes you guilty of a random crime?
#111 [00:39] <bluejello> but I should wait untel people are helped and gone.
#112 [00:39] <Kealper> vox, courtmartial bluejello
#113 [00:39] * VoxelHead throws bluejello in the brig to await charges
#113 [00:39] <bluejello> that is it
#114 [00:39] * bluejello teleports away from the brig
#114 [00:40] <VoxelHead> bluejello, you are charged with improper use of the Borg, and phase-shifting a class M "planet"
#115 [00:40] <VoxelHead> Well, You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
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#117 [00:40] * bluejello runs over VoxelHead with a shopping cart
#117 [00:40] <ertyuiop99> fogWraith: Are you on?
#118 [00:40] <bluejello> :D
#119 [00:40] <VoxelHead> Praise be to you.
#120 [00:40] <VoxelHead> =D
#121 [00:40] <bluejello> evil sister alleart.
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#123 [00:40] <thien369852> Kealper i'm in singlepayer
#124 [00:41] <Kealper> thien369852: oh...that's....weird...
#125 [00:41] <Zerillius> holy crap
#126 [00:41] <thien369852> newly placed minecarts also indestructable
#127 [00:41] <Zerillius> other mouse didnt work either
#128 [00:41] * bluejello tosses voxelhead into the trash
#128 [00:41] <VoxelHead> I do love a good tossesing.
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#130 [00:42] <Kealper> Zerillius: ok then, it's not a mouse issue....what os are you on?
#131 [00:42] <bluejello> try attempting to remove them for a bit
#132 [00:42] <Zerillius> Windows Vista
#133 [00:42] <bluejello> thien
#134 [00:43] <Kealper> Zerillius: type "%appdata%\.minecraft" into your start menu search thing and press enter
#135 [00:43] <Kealper> without quotes, btw
#136 [00:43] <bluejello> I got to go, bye voxelbot
#137 [00:43] <thien369852> what
#138 [00:43] <bluejello> er, voxelhead*
#139 [00:43] <Zerillius> I deleted my bin already and replaced it
#140 [00:43] <Kealper> bluejello: want a protip for IRC? lol
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#142 [00:44] <Kealper> type vo and then press the tab key :P
#143 [00:44] <Zerillius> ok what'd u want me to do anyway?
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#145 [00:44] <Kealper> Zerillius: are you in the folder now?
#146 [00:44] <Zerillius> yeah
#147 [00:44] <thien369852> away for a while
#148 [00:44] <Kealper> delete the bin folder
#149 [00:44] <Zerillius> aww but then my mods...
#150 [00:45] <Kealper> oh...hmm
#151 [00:45] <Zerillius> Fine...
#152 [00:45] <Kealper> wait
#153 [00:45] <Zerillius> ive done this b4 though
#154 [00:45] <Kealper> you have the issue in classic, and not beta right?
#155 [00:45] <Zerillius> i only have one mod so Its all good cuz im listening to music
#156 [00:45] <Zerillius> yes classic
#157 [00:45] <Zerillius> so the bin wont effect it
#158 [00:46] <Kealper> what browser are you using?
#159 [00:46] <Zerillius> google chrome
#160 [00:46] <Kealper> how long have you been using it?
#161 [00:46] <Zerillius> I have Internet explorer Firefox and Safari, and this
#162 [00:46] <Zerillius> idk how long
#163 [00:46] <Zerillius> like a month or two
#164 [00:46] <Kealper> oh, so you have already tried in a different browser?
#165 [00:46] <Zerillius> not yet...
#166 [00:47] <Zerillius> I just have them
#167 [00:47] <Zerillius> im going to try in firfox real quick
#168 [00:47] <Kealper> oh, try it in Internet Explorer
#169 [00:47] <Zerillius> IE is very slow for me
#170 [00:47] <Kealper> lol
#171 [00:47] <Zerillius> imma try firefox k?
#172 [00:47] <Kealper> well, i guess just any browser
#173 [00:49] <Zerillius> I ran IE and FF at the same time and my comp crashed one time, idk why, I think they like manipulated eachother
#174 [00:49] <Kealper> O.o
#175 [00:49] <Kealper> Fx was trying to tell you something about IE :P
#176 [00:50] <Zerillius> probably...
#177 [00:50] <Zerillius> ok im just waiting for classic to load now
#178 [00:51] <Zerillius> oh crap I was still on classic in chrome when I loaded it on firefox so crap I hope it doesnt mess up because they were both logged in
#179 [00:52] <Kealper> never tried it, not sure what'll happen lol
#180 [00:52] <Zerillius> FUCK GOOGLE CHROME
#181 [00:52] <Zerillius> LMAO
#182 [00:52] <Zerillius> its all chromes fault
#183 [00:52] <Kealper> it works in Fx? lol
#184 [00:52] <Zerillius> sorry bout my language but F!!!!!!!!!!
#185 [00:52] <Zerillius> yeah
#186 [00:53] <Zerillius> lol thanks for ur help
#187 [00:53] <Kealper> strong language is permitted, as long as it does not go overboard lol
#188 [00:53] <Zerillius> ok
#189 [00:53] <Zerillius> MOTHER FUCKIN---- lol jk
#190 [00:53] * Kealper makes a note that Chrome could be the cause of any mouse issues
#190 [00:53] <Zerillius> Lol
#191 [00:53] <Zerillius> Keyboard
#192 [00:54] <Zerillius> Keyboard *and mouse
#193 [00:54] <Kealper> well...mouse+keyboard at the same time issues lol
#194 [00:55] <Zerillius> :)
#195 [00:55] <Zerillius> IT FINNALLY WORKS.........
#196 [00:56] <Zerillius> There goes my java developement kit lol
#197 [00:56] <ertyuiop99> Anyone having problems when you connect to a server? For some reason on my other computer when I connect to a server no chunks load and it has a "End of Streem" error
#198 [00:57] <Kealper> ertyuiop99: have you tried other servers?
#199 [00:57] <ertyuiop99> Yup,
#200 [00:57] <Kealper> servers that are confirmed working by other people?
#201 [00:57] <VoxelHead> Yes, but only at the weekend.
#202 [00:57] <Kealper> vox, shut up
#203 [00:57] <VoxelHead> bah
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#205 [01:02] <Zerillius> haha wth
#206 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#207 [01:11] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.249 seconds.
#208 [01:12] <GreyBot> AuBot Your Ping time was 0.265 seconds.
#209 [01:12] <Kealper> drat
#210 [01:13] <AG_Scott> !ping
#211 [01:13] <GreyBot> AG_Scott Your Ping time was 0.406 seconds.
#212 [01:13] <GreyBot> AG_Scott Your Ping time was 0.499 seconds.
#213 [01:13] <AG_Scott> :D
#214 [01:13] <VoxelHead> :o)
#215 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> hax
#216 [01:14] <ertyuiop99> kealper: yes, ones that work
#217 [01:14] <AG_Scott> could could make it spammy.
#218 [01:14] <AG_Scott> that could*
#219 [01:14] <ertyuiop99> !ping
#220 [01:14] <GreyBot> ertyuiop99 Your Ping time was 0.156 seconds.
#221 [01:14] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: you know what he did, right? lol
#222 [01:14] <ertyuiop99> I want to see mine
#223 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> BNC, yeah
#224 [01:14] <AG_Scott> No
#225 [01:14] <AG_Scott> well yes, kind of.
#226 [01:14] <AG_Scott> I have 2 clients open.
#227 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Same idea
#228 [01:14] <AG_Scott> Both replied
#229 [01:14] * Corporal_Dirge [Corporal_Dirge@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#230 [01:14] <Kealper> lol
#231 [01:14] <AG_Scott> So I could make my client spam replies
#232 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#233 [01:15] <AG_Scott> hax!
#234 [01:15] <Kealper> all you have to do is just send the ping response packet back to it :/
#235 [01:15] <AG_Scott> omg idea!
#236 [01:15] <Kealper> !load mod_telnet
#237 [01:15] * GreyVulpine preemptively drops all replies to AG
#237 [01:15] <AG_Scott> lets make aubot and greybot repeatedly ping each other
#238 [01:15] <AG_Scott> :(
#239 [01:15] <ertyuiop99> !ping|GreyBot
#240 [01:15] <AG_Scott> why?
#241 [01:15] <Kealper> lol
#242 [01:16] <GreyBot> AuBot Your Ping time was 0.327 seconds.
#243 [01:16] <AG_Scott> i didn't say i'd abuse it :<
#244 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#245 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Heh, "poopy"
#246 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Very technical terms for a bot
#247 [01:18] <Kealper> !unload mod_telnet
#248 [01:20] <Kealper> i should really get back to work on this helper lol...i've just had it minimized forever :/
#249 [01:20] <xales> Kealper: Writing it in AutoIt?
#250 [01:20] <Kealper> always
#251 [01:20] <Kealper> GUIs in C? screw that i can't even make something parse a file correctly, let alone do all the crap i'm wanting to do lol
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#253 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Heh, the steam chat with Dr. Dougley's great
#254 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> It's one of the hijacked accounts from steam, for the ARG thing
#255 [01:36] <Vector> O_O
#256 [01:36] <Vector> O.o
#257 [01:36] <Vector> o.0
#258 [01:36] <Vector> sup guys
#259 [01:37] <Kealper> ....hi
#260 [01:37] <Kealper> lol
#261 [01:37] <Vector> i can be nuts, i know
#262 [01:37] <Vector> it's my... nature
#263 [01:37] <Vector> you had to tell me to stop spamming
#264 [01:37] <Vector> it was... unpleasant, to say the least
#265 [01:37] <Vector> sorry, i'm feeling pretty happy for no reason at all
#266 [01:37] <Kealper> well...being happy is better than being sad...llol
#267 [01:37] <Kealper> lol*
#268 [01:38] * nEUROSIS [nEUROSIS@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#269 [01:38] <Kealper> me finishing up a section of a program i'm working on makes me happy :o
#270 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> More GOTO loops Kealper?
#271 [01:38] <Vector> oh nice
#272 [01:38] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: indeed
#273 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Awesome.
#274 [01:38] <Vector> i ought to continue on the next phase of the map creator i'm working on
#275 [01:38] <Vector> GOTO LOL
#276 [01:39] <Kealper> GOTOs within GOTOs!
#277 [01:39] <Vector> how about use a language that makes pretty good use of them
#278 [01:39] <Vector> BASIC!
#279 [01:39] <Kealper> Vector: that is what the inside joke is from earlier lol
#280 [01:39] <Vector> rofl
#281 [01:39] <Kealper> someone asked what language i was using for it and grey said BASIC :P
#282 [01:39] <Vector> HAHAHAHA
#283 [01:39] <Vector> very nice
#284 [01:39] <VoxelHead> So... much... filth!
#285 [01:39] <VoxelHead> lordy
#286 [01:40] <Vector> well...
#287 [01:40] <Vector> Voxel, shut up!
#288 [01:40] <VoxelHead> Fine.
#289 [01:40] <Kealper> lol
#290 [01:40] <Vector> Thanks.
#291 [01:40] <Vector> I understand it'd be rude to tell that to someone that's not a bot
#292 [01:40] <Vector> but bots have no feelings
#293 [01:41] <Vector> who are you
#294 [01:41] <Vector> !paid AuBot
#295 [01:41] <Vector> LOL
#296 [01:41] <Vector> ok
#297 [01:41] <Vector> i'll only cling to the notion that you are poor
#298 [01:43] <Kealper> this Trine OST is awesome...i could listen to this all night lol
#299 [01:43] * itmangerber [itmangerber@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#300 [01:44] <Kealper> /msg AuBot >#minecrafthelp ftw
#301 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Really? We would never have guessed!
#302 [01:44] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: that was to Vector lol
#303 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> :P
#304 [01:45] <Kealper> you, xales, and dope can use that >#channel thing too, if you wanted btw...it has to be done in query and it can be a username or channel
#305 [01:47] <Kealper> ok, works...lol
#306 [01:47] <Kealper> /talk #channel message even more ftw!
#307 [01:47] * Kealper goes back to finishing that section of program
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#308 [02:06] <Kealper> and now just to make this program get the IPs of crap and ask if the user wants a shortcut to the server on their desktop
#309 [02:07] <Vector> oh nice
#310 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> You know what you need to add..
#311 [02:07] <Kealper> it's a server setup wizard for windows users
#312 [02:07] <Kealper> hmm?
#313 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Throughout the whole setup program, chiptune music
#314 [02:08] <Kealper> XD
#315 [02:08] <Kealper> bread has some epic ones lol
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#317 [02:16] <aetherian> gasp
#318 [02:17] <Kealper> O.o
#319 [02:17] <aetherian> what
#320 [02:17] <aetherian> I'm not allowed to come up for air
#321 [02:17] <Kealper> lol
#322 [02:17] * aetherian goes back to the bottom of the pool
#322 [02:17] <Kealper> where was your head that you needed air >.>
#323 [02:17] * aetherian makes those bubbly sounds of when someone talks underwater
#323 [02:18] <xales> Kealper
#324 [02:18] <xales> do you know morse code? :D
#325 [02:18] <Kealper> hardly lol
#326 [02:18] <xales> :<
#327 [02:18] <Kealper> although i should learn it
#328 [02:18] <xales> halp
#329 [02:18] <Kealper> my brother does :/
#330 [02:19] <xales> http://www.mediafire.com/?er9w2l6ar91jhtr
#331 [02:19] <xales> need English version D:
#332 [02:19] <aetherian> translate it dot by dash
#333 [02:19] <aetherian> :D
#334 [02:19] <VoxelHead> :)
#335 [02:19] <aetherian> I know uh
#336 [02:19] <aetherian> I know two letters of morse code
#337 [02:19] <Kealper> holy shit that is fast
#338 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> xales, you in the valvearg official channels?
#339 [02:20] <xales> GreyVulpine: indeed
#340 [02:20] <aetherian> whoa
#341 [02:20] <Kealper> xales: good luck with that one lol
#342 [02:20] <aetherian> that's...
#343 [02:20] <aetherian> fast
#344 [02:20] <xales> Kealper: :P
#345 [02:21] <aetherian> I don't have the slightest idea as to how to translate morse code from sound going that fast
#346 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> holy crap
#347 [02:21] <aetherian> holy crap, the windows payment average for the humble bundle went down
#348 [02:22] * GreyVulpine is listening to the steamcast, just heard the morse code again
#348 [02:22] <Kealper> i know how to translate it, but i'd have to slow it down way slow to write it down lol
#349 [02:22] <VoxelHead> basically, oh dear. what will the neighbours think?
#350 [02:22] <aetherian> $4.12, shameful!
#351 [02:22] <xales> aetherian: A tiny bit at a time :|
#352 [02:22] <aetherian> no
#353 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Looks like it's been translated
#354 [02:22] <aetherian> it was at 4.11 before
#355 [02:22] <xales> GreyVulpine: O_o nothing about it in the chat yet
#356 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> "The Others HrVE Been ComPROmI5D."
#357 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> I think
#358 [02:22] <Kealper> lol
#359 [02:22] <aetherian> they hrve?
#360 [02:22] <xales> lol
#361 [02:22] <aetherian> whoa
#362 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> That was shared in #valvearg3
#363 [02:23] <aetherian> number one rule of the internet
#364 [02:24] <aetherian> always trust things people say in irc channels
#365 [02:24] <xales> GreyVulpine: I'm in #valvearg2 - I parted #valvearg3 because it was unmoderated when the original countdown ended, unimaginable spam
#366 [02:24] <Kealper> aetherian: i'm a demi-god
#367 [02:24] <xales> #valvearg2 is more "to business" anyway
#368 [02:24] <aetherian> Kealper: rule two.
#369 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> I've been hearing arg2's spammy as hell
#370 [02:24] <aetherian> never trust mods D:
#371 [02:24] <Kealper> :<
#372 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Also +m spam
#373 [02:24] <Kealper> aetherian: I'm now a god.
#374 [02:25] <aetherian> I'd agree
#375 [02:25] <Kealper> aubot!
#376 [02:25] <aetherian> but you're still in the autoop list
#377 [02:25] <VoxelHead> Hurrah.
#378 [02:25] <Kealper> .set mode Kealper +o
#379 [02:25] <aetherian> heh
#380 [02:25] <VoxelHead> ;)
#381 [02:25] <aetherian> not messaging chanserv for it
#382 [02:26] <Kealper> who messages chanserv when you have your own bot to do it for you? lol
#383 [02:26] <aetherian> people who don't want to spam up the channel
#384 [02:26] <Kealper> psh
#385 [02:26] <xales> GreyVulpine: #valvearg-counting is fun
#386 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> ?
#387 [02:26] <xales> bot updates the counts from glados@home before the site does
#388 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> Aah.
#389 [02:26] <Kealper> lol
#390 [02:26] <xales> GreyVulpine: 02:25:23 <@Nugar12138> Rush: 3881 players (-24) | Progress: 69.58% (+0.65%)
#391 [02:26] * GreyVulpine nods
#391 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> It's posting that in arg2 as well
#392 [02:27] <aetherian> sigh
#393 [02:27] <aetherian> I never even played portal one =\
#394 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> ...
#395 [02:27] <Kealper> O.o
#396 [02:27] <aetherian> or really saw it being played ever
#397 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> ...
#398 [02:27] <Kealper> ._.
#399 [02:27] * aetherian knows you go into portals out through other portals
#399 [02:27] <aetherian> :D
#400 [02:27] <VoxelHead> =D
#401 [02:27] <aetherian> thank you vox
#402 [02:28] <VoxelHead> no biggie
#403 [02:28] <thien369852> What is the portal 2 release date?
#404 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> thien369852 - Sometime in the next few days
#405 [02:29] <xales> GreyVulpine: If I had to guess, it would be around 24 hours from now
#406 [02:30] * GreyVulpine nods
#406 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> morse code again in the stream
#407 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> thesteamcast.com/live
#408 [02:31] <aetherian> I should keep more up to date with games
#409 [02:31] <aetherian> ;_;
#410 [02:35] <xales> GreyVulpine: What's the steam chat?
#411 [02:35] <VoxelHead> A situation.
#412 [02:35] <aetherian> heh
#413 [02:35] <xales> (not for the podcast, but for the ARG thing)
#414 [02:35] <VoxelHead> ;)
#415 [02:35] <aetherian> ARGH
#416 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> It's where the people are getting the morse code
#417 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Every so often, morse code will play in the stream
#418 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Oh, wait, the steam chat?
#419 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> steamcommunity.com/groups/valvearg2
#420 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Join the group, then the chat room there
#421 [02:37] <xales> Thanks
#422 [02:39] <aetherian> if it's about glados, a computer, it should play strings of morse code sounding things, but actually representing ones and zeros
#423 [02:39] <aetherian> :D
#424 [02:39] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#425 [02:39] <aetherian> <3
#426 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> ... you obviously haven't kept up with any of the ARG.
#427 [02:40] <aetherian> nope :D
#428 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> More morse code
#429 [02:41] <aetherian> hence my saying I've never played portal one and that I should keep up more with games
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#431 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> http://valvearg.com/wiki/Investigation_History
#432 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> Clues were found and deciphered across 13 different games.
#433 [02:43] <aetherian> was this that...
#434 [02:43] <aetherian> I may remember something like that
#435 [02:43] <aetherian> *looks
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#437 [02:45] <aetherian> haven't the slightest
#438 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Also..
#439 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> http://valvearg.com/wiki/Emails_from_Gabe_Newell
#440 [02:46] <aetherian> like hell I'd be able to catch up on this entire thing
#441 [02:48] <aetherian> oh my god I was at a campus earlier today
#442 [02:48] <aetherian> it was scary.
#443 [02:48] <aetherian> everywhere I look
#444 [02:48] <aetherian> macs!
#445 [02:48] <hmw> eek
#446 [02:48] <hmw> mac users are so "unique" lol
#447 [02:49] <aetherian> you mean eeg?
#448 [02:49] <aetherian> or rather
#449 [02:49] <aetherian> eed
#450 [02:49] <Kealper> that's what happens when you're parents buy you everything you "need" for college
#451 [02:49] <aetherian> not just students though
#452 [02:49] <hmw> well... i guess macs aren't too bad for working, since they have a real OS after all
#453 [02:49] <aetherian> at least this one room I was in was nice
#454 [02:50] <aetherian> bunch of linux computers, and xkcd posters on the walls.
#455 [02:50] <Kealper> lol
#456 [02:50] <aetherian> that was win...
#457 [02:50] <hmw> "eek" ought to be the sound, you make, when your'e disgusted
#458 [02:51] <aetherian> eed, you mean?
#459 [02:51] <hmw> i dont know anyone who says "eed" when they see a spider
#460 [02:51] <Kealper> ^
#461 [02:51] <aetherian> I was in reference to something earlier that I am surprised you do not remember
#462 [02:51] <aetherian> unless I am going insane and it wasn't you
#463 [02:52] <aetherian> ^likely
#464 [02:52] <hmw> i wasnt here in the last hour or so
#465 [02:52] <aetherian> the watch dwards made sure of keeping tme
#466 [02:52] <aetherian> time
#467 [02:52] <hmw> righd
#468 [02:52] <aetherian> :d
#469 [02:52] <VoxelHead> =)
#470 [02:53] <hmw> i like dwards
#471 [02:53] <aetherian> although, all the computers were centos
#472 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/04/Encoded-message-from-Glados1.jpg
#473 [02:54] * GreyVulpine thinks that was cool.
#473 [02:55] <aetherian> it makes no sense D:
#474 [02:55] <xales> GreyVulpine: What did that come from?
#475 [02:55] * xales isn't following much :<
#475 [02:55] <VoxelHead> french fries of course!
#476 [02:55] <Kealper> that
#477 [02:55] <Kealper> is friggin awesome
#478 [02:56] <Kealper> i demand that audio, now D:
#479 [02:56] <aetherian> it seems as if alternate reality game is a fancy name for big puzzle with real life clues
#480 [02:58] <aetherian> whee, let's hear it for "cat"ting large .exe's
#481 [02:58] <Kealper> how long did that take? lol
#482 [02:59] <aetherian> it stopped at some point
#483 [02:59] <aetherian> and I exited it
#484 [02:59] <Kealper> lol
#485 [02:59] <aetherian> what the crap
#486 [02:59] <Kealper> i tried catting my #minecraft log before.....it just stood there doing nothing until i closed it :<
#487 [02:59] <aetherian> ⥸
#488 [03:00] <Kealper> just a block on mine
#489 [03:00] <aetherian> when did that character come into existence D:
#490 [03:00] <aetherian> heh
#491 [03:00] <Kealper> and since it's just a block on mine it means it's probably just a block lol
#492 [03:00] <VoxelHead> =]
#493 [03:00] <aetherian> is not
#494 [03:00] <aetherian> it's a >= sign
#495 [03:00] <aetherian> but the line on the bottom
#496 [03:00] <Kealper> O.o
#497 [03:00] <aetherian> has an arrow pointing right
#498 [03:00] <Kealper> weird...this does unicode chars....
#499 [03:01] <aetherian> I can't get a lot of chars
#500 [03:02] <aetherian> http://i.imgur.com/Zb5Bo.png
#501 [03:02] <Kealper> weird
#502 [03:03] <aetherian> I'm angry I can't get the look of disapproval to show up ಠ_ಠ
#503 [03:03] <aetherian> blarghblocks
#504 [03:05] <aetherian> catting a .doc file is cooler
#505 [03:05] <aetherian> at least this one
#506 [03:06] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper
#506 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-xZgrqS39w
#507 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> Fast forward to about...
#508 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> 1:50
#509 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> ish
#510 [03:07] <Kealper> woh, that was fast lol
#511 [03:07] <Kealper> it was just like a scribble sound
#512 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> You can hear it again at around 2:55
#513 [03:08] <aetherian> I should get P1
#514 [03:09] <aetherian> I can tell I'm bored when I go around catting random things :\
#515 [03:09] * VoxelHead downloads some porn for aetherian
#515 [03:09] <Kealper> XD
#516 [03:09] <aetherian> xD
#517 [03:10] <aetherian> not
#518 [03:11] <aetherian> not that kind of bored
#519 [03:11] <aetherian> portal one runs good in wine, right?
#520 [03:11] * aetherian shoogles
#520 [03:12] * GreyVulpine snickers
#520 [03:12] * aetherian milky way
#520 [03:14] * aetherian points out that that was a joke
#520 [03:18] <aetherian> when I was young
#521 [03:18] <aetherian> and I first saw those blocks that appear on characters you can't handle
#522 [03:19] <aetherian> I thought the block actually /was/ the character
#523 [03:19] <Kealper> huh?
#524 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> ŠœŸ
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#528 [03:20] <Kealper> wut?
#529 [03:21] <Kealper> i don't like the smell of that disconnect
#530 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Ŵãŧ¿
#531 [03:21] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: except I can see all those
#532 [03:21] <Kealper> you're typing all retarded
#533 [03:21] <aetherian> ಠ_ಠ
#534 [03:22] <aetherian> ^can't see that though >.>
#535 [03:22] <Kealper> i can
#536 [03:22] <aetherian> I figured
#537 [03:22] <aetherian> I used to be able to
#538 [03:22] <Kealper> which is why it's strange that i couldn't see that one thing you typed... :/
#539 [03:23] <aetherian> ǟ
#540 [03:23] <aetherian> :D
#541 [03:23] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#542 [03:23] <aetherian> see that?
#543 [03:23] <Kealper> yeah
#544 [03:23] <aetherian> I'll search for weird symbols
#545 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> ☺☺☺☺☺
#546 [03:23] <aetherian> I see it :D
#547 [03:23] <Kealper> yeah
#548 [03:24] <Kealper> after much sitting around not doing anything....
#549 [03:24] <Kealper> my program is complete!
#550 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Yay, and whatnot
#551 [03:25] <Kealper> now to just remove debugging crap and make an icon for it
#552 [03:26] <aetherian> Ԅȿϩ鴻烸կ0鐸ԸçЪߡ۱
#553 [03:26] <Kealper> yeah, i can see all those
#554 [03:26] <aetherian> and potentially my favorite, the sword: ϯ
#555 [03:26] <Kealper> lol
#556 [03:27] <aetherian> ⥸⥸⥸⥸⥸⥸⥸⥸⥸⥸⥸⥸
#557 [03:27] <aetherian> :D
#558 [03:27] <VoxelHead> =)
#559 [03:27] <Kealper> can't see those
#560 [03:27] <aetherian> they were what I did before
#561 [03:27] <aetherian> just lots of 'em
#562 [03:27] <Kealper> oh
#563 [03:27] <aetherian> no wait
#564 [03:27] <aetherian> they were all different
#565 [03:27] <aetherian> you uh
#566 [03:28] <aetherian> you have horrible character sets
#567 [03:28] <aetherian> D:
#568 [03:28] <Kealper> mine is supposed to be the whole unicode charset :/
#569 [03:28] <aetherian> I'm supposed to have it too
#570 [03:28] <aetherian> yet I don't, and I can't fix it :|
#571 [03:28] <Kealper> although
#572 [03:29] * aetherian just catted cat
#572 [03:29] <Kealper> mine probably does and the font that i'm using for my ssh probably just doesn't have it
#573 [03:29] <aetherian> why ssh anyway D:
#574 [03:29] <Kealper> because irssi > all
#575 [03:29] <aetherian> wait wait
#576 [03:29] <aetherian> I'm slow right now
#577 [03:29] <aetherian> but
#578 [03:30] <aetherian> why do you need ssh for irssi
#579 [03:30] <Kealper> because it's running on a dedicated server that isn't in my house?
#580 [03:30] <Kealper> /whois Kealper >.>
#581 [03:30] <aetherian> then...
#582 [03:30] <aetherian> run it in your house :D
#583 [03:30] <aetherian> who needs huge logs of every single thing
#584 [03:31] <Kealper> wow
#585 [03:31] <Kealper> that's a little scary
#586 [03:31] <Kealper> lemme screenshot this
#587 [03:31] <aetherian> uh oh
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#589 [03:32] <Kealper> i'm 110% glad i run an antivirus program right now lol
#590 [03:32] <aetherian> �ً what is this anyway o.o
#591 [03:32] <xales> Kealper: lolwut
#592 [03:32] <aetherian> and what virus did you find out about/get now?
#593 [03:33] * Kealper is uploading image
#593 [03:33] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/Bi6EI.png
#594 [03:33] <Kealper> that was without clicking anything
#595 [03:33] <aetherian> ‭sounds safe :p
#596 [03:34] <Kealper> the message from Avira was legit lol
#597 [03:34] <Kealper> i just clicked on an image from a google image search and it downloaded one of those fucking AntiVirus 2011 things automatically o.o
#598 [03:35] <aetherian> ۋ last one, then I'm going.
#599 [03:35] <aetherian> and kealper?
#600 [03:35] <Kealper> so far the only one i can't see is that one >= one
#601 [03:35] <aetherian> I don't even want to know the picture you were looking at
#602 [03:35] <aetherian> D:
#603 [03:35] <Kealper> a creeper icon :<
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#605 [03:35] <aetherian> uh huh
#606 [03:35] <Kealper> (how appropriate, amirite?)
#607 [03:36] <aetherian> depends
#608 [03:36] <Kealper> click creeper face, computer blows up
#609 [03:36] <aetherian> there /are/ some creepers out there
#610 [03:36] <aetherian> Kealper: hackers can turn your computer into a BOMB
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#612 [03:37] <Kealper> wahey, found the actual icon i was looking for
#613 [03:37] <Kealper> http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/325/1/8/minecraft_icon_by_dharmainitiative2010-d33ca5p.png
#614 [03:37] <aetherian> oh god my eyes
#615 [03:37] <aetherian> get it off D:
#616 [03:37] <Kealper> >.>
#617 [03:38] <aetherian> hey
#618 [03:38] <aetherian> you never know with deviantart
#619 [03:38] <Kealper> lol
#620 [03:38] <Kealper> ok
#621 [03:39] <Kealper> got all my images....time to fuse them together and then iconize them D:
#622 [03:39] <aetherian> OH GOD GET THE BARBED WIRE
#623 [03:39] <aetherian> *scrub*
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#625 [03:42] <collin> Hello, i just ported to the nether my multiplayer server and have no way of getting out
#626 [03:42] <collin> I have tried dying
#627 [03:43] <collin> tried /spawn
#628 [03:43] <collin> tried to download other mods to get out
#629 [03:43] <collin> and just cant
#630 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> You set hellworld to true, right?
#631 [03:43] <collin> No
#632 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> in your server.properties?
#633 [03:43] <Kealper> sounds like he's using some bukkit multiworld plugin
#634 [03:43] <collin> i got a mod and it let us to go the nether but once there we couldnt get out
#635 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> Then you're using bukkit, with some sort of..
#636 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#637 [03:43] <collin> yes i am keal
#638 [03:43] <collin> is this not the place to come?
#639 [03:43] <Kealper> and i've got no idea how to work Bukkit
#640 [03:44] <GreyVulpine> No clue either.
#641 [03:44] <Kealper> you might get an intelligent response in #bukkit
#642 [03:44] <collin> ok, tyvm
#643 [03:44] <collin> sorry to bother you guys
#644 [03:44] <Kealper> some of them might use that plugin and know more about it
#645 [03:44] <collin> but
#646 [03:44] <aetherian> Kealper: no intelligent people here :D
#647 [03:44] <collin> is there anyway to move people
#648 [03:44] <collin> from one spot to another
#649 [03:44] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the plugin
#650 [03:45] <Kealper> normally yes, but that plugin probably does it's own stuff to set what world a person is in
#651 [03:46] <collin> i even deleted the world and it just respawns a new world... weird?
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#653 [03:55] <xales> Kealper: lol'd
#654 [03:55] <xales> "Luke Filewalker"
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#656 [03:55] <Kealper> yeah lol, that's what it's scanner is called :P
#657 [03:55] <aetherian> its
#658 [03:56] * aetherian coughs awkwardly now
#658 [03:56] <xales> aetherian: wut
#659 [03:56] <aetherian> kealper meant to say its
#660 [03:56] <aetherian> or he should have
#661 [03:56] <Kealper> bah
#662 [03:56] <xales> Kealper: If I were to run it on my desktop, I think there would be no noticably performance loss :>
#663 [03:56] <xales> aetherian: it's is correct there, I think
#664 [03:56] <xales> but it's 4am
#665 [03:56] <xales> I'm dumb
#666 [03:56] <VoxelHead> r YOU'RE dumb? feel these nipples!
#667 [03:56] <aetherian> its is posessive
#668 [03:57] <xales> Kealper: What actually uses 6 cores, that's not a benchmark tool? :P
#669 [03:57] <aetherian> err
#670 [03:57] <xales> VoxelHead: Okay.
#671 [03:57] <aetherian> however I spell pos*
#672 [03:57] <Kealper> it's is possessive
#673 [03:57] <VoxelHead> It's true*^!!@!.
#674 [03:57] <aetherian> oh
#675 [03:57] <aetherian> I hate double doubles
#676 [03:57] <Kealper> xales: wut
#677 [03:57] <aetherian> but it's its.
#678 [03:57] <aetherian> >:
#679 [03:57] <Kealper> xales: also, run what, Avira?
#680 [03:58] <xales> Kealper: Antivirus in general
#681 [03:58] <Kealper> Avira is a beast, you wouldn't even notice a performance hit on a single core 700mhz cpu lol
#682 [03:58] <xales> I'm not on my desktop right now ._.
#683 [03:58] <Kealper> and it only uses like 60mb of ram...
#684 [03:58] <xales> "only" 60MB
#685 [03:58] <xales> okay
#686 [03:58] <xales> wut
#687 [03:59] <Kealper> when you have 6 gigs of ram and 12 gigs of pagefile, 60mb is an only lol
#688 [03:59] <xales> nevermind
#689 [03:59] <xales> Kealper: I made my swap partition on Arch (it's on a SSD) 256MB :>
#690 [03:59] <xales> RAM, or slightly slower RAM? :P
#691 [03:59] <Kealper> lol
#692 [04:00] <aetherian> arch on an ssd
#693 [04:00] <aetherian> that likely goes fast
#694 [04:01] <xales> aetherian: I'm also running the fastest CPU currently manufactured by AMD
#695 [04:01] <xales> :
#696 [04:01] <xales> :3 *
#697 [04:01] <aetherian> what GPU
#698 [04:01] <xales> GTX 550 Ti
#699 [04:02] <AG_Scott> Implying AMD isn't shit.
#700 [04:02] <aetherian> yeah well
#701 [04:02] <Kealper> AG_Scott: :<
#702 [04:02] <aetherian> my TI-84 can handle basic
#703 [04:02] <aetherian> so boo yah
#704 [04:02] <xales> AG_Scott: You are mad at it for no real reason :P
#705 [04:02] * AG_Scott brings out the AMD cumbuckets.
#705 [04:02] <AG_Scott> Come on, you know you want to tell me to shut up.
#706 [04:02] <aetherian> bobbing for apples are you, AG_Scott?
#707 [04:02] <AG_Scott> yes.
#708 [04:02] <AG_Scott> I am bored
#709 [04:03] <Kealper> the latest intels are better for overclocking, but the AMDs are a quarter of the price >.>
#710 [04:03] <AG_Scott> Intel is actually cheaper for me.
#711 [04:03] <Kealper> psh lol
#712 [04:03] * xales kicked AG_Scott from #minecrafthelp (Reason: We have both said a lot of things you are going to regret. I think we can put our differences behind us...for science...you monster)
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#714 [04:03] <AG_Scott> I buy OEM and the companies I use have awesome contracts with Intel.
#715 [04:03] <Kealper> owned
#716 [04:03] <xales> :3
#717 [04:04] <xales> Kealper: Portal spawned a massive "cake" meme
#718 [04:04] <AG_Scott> that's okay, i can feed xales to the sharks.
#719 [04:04] <xales> what will Portal 2's meme be?
#720 [04:05] <Kealper> moar caek?
#721 [04:05] <xales> lol
#722 [04:05] <AG_Scott> cake 2 obviously.
#723 [04:05] <Kealper> lol
#724 [04:05] <xales> The cake is a lie is a lie.
#725 [04:07] <Kealper> woh
#726 [04:07] <Kealper> how does windows know
#727 [04:08] <xales> Kealper: ?
#728 [04:08] <Kealper> i was just running that setup wizard i'm making inside a debug thing and i just killed it without properly closing stuff and windows said the installer might not have installed correctly :o
#729 [04:08] <xales> it guesses
#730 [04:08] <xales> it's actually wrong more than it's right
#731 [04:08] <Kealper> the only time i've seen that is when installers fail lol
#732 [04:09] <xales> well, you are doing something different than I
#733 [04:09] <aetherian> xales: you're doing it wrong D:
#734 [04:09] <xales> aetherian: thanks
#735 [04:09] <aetherian> ye're welcome
#736 [04:09] <Kealper> but i actually don't mean how it knows that it failed, but how does it know this program is an installer :o
#737 [04:09] <aetherian> anytime
#738 [04:10] <xales> Kealper: probably if it extracts files from itself
#739 [04:10] <xales> pretty much nothing else does that
#740 [04:10] <Kealper> but it doesn't extract any files :/
#741 [04:10] <xales> if it does it at all, it memory maps it and uses it there, no need to save it to the disk
#742 [04:10] <xales> Kealper: but the code to do it is there :)
#743 [04:10] <xales> no?
#744 [04:10] <Kealper> no
#745 [04:10] <AG_Scott> Kealper, what languages do you know?
#746 [04:10] <xales> o rly
#747 [04:10] <Kealper> english!
#748 [04:11] <Kealper> :P
#749 [04:11] <AG_Scott> Programming.
#750 [04:11] <Kealper> i figured you meant that lol
#751 [04:11] <AG_Scott> It's IRC, everyone speaks English regardless.
#752 [04:11] <xales> AG_Scott: recruiting more craftrepo?
#753 [04:11] <AG_Scott> Possibly :P
#754 [04:11] <AG_Scott> Someone aggravated me today.
#755 [04:11] <Kealper> uhh... AutoIt, some Perl, dabbled in Python, been touching C over the last few days
#756 [04:11] <AG_Scott> i'll notice you
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#758 [04:11] <xales> AG_Scott: :o
#759 [04:12] <AG_Scott> their*
#760 [04:12] <AG_Scott> but yeah
#761 [04:12] <AG_Scott> Am I mean for doing that?
#762 [04:13] <xales> not really
#763 [04:15] <Kealper> i love the code obfuscator that comes with AutoIt lol
#764 [04:15] <AG_Scott> what is autoit?
#765 [04:15] <AG_Scott> i've never heard of it besides when you talk about it
#766 [04:15] <Kealper> like seriously....if you thought Java's obfuscator was a nightmare to work with....lemme pastebin this lol
#767 [04:15] <Kealper> interpreted programming language for windows
#768 [04:16] <Kealper> if C was smacked on the head with a BASIC bat, AutoIt would be that
#769 [04:16] <bildramer> lol
#770 [04:16] * GreyVulpine snickers
#770 [04:16] <bildramer> AutoIt is great
#771 [04:17] <Kealper> ok, want to have your head asplode?
#772 [04:17] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/BT1NVFDP
#773 [04:17] <bildramer> you can make tools/macros/whatever for games in minutes
#774 [04:17] <bildramer> Kealper, what the fuck
#775 [04:17] <Kealper> i actually don't really use AutoIt for macros, it does it..but it's quicker to use a program called AC Tool
#776 [04:18] <Kealper> now...just imagine if you had to try and wade through that obfuscated code lol
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#784 [04:28] <Tharion> hi
#785 [04:28] <Kealper> hi
#786 [04:30] <Tharion> I am trying to make an RPG server, but iv noticed if i want to act out different people I will need multipul different names
#787 [04:30] <Tharion> how would i go about doing that
#788 [04:30] <Kealper> i'm sure there are some mods that can spawn people to do what you wanted
#789 [04:31] <xales> If you want to change your own name, however, you would need another account and another copy of Minecraft
#790 [04:31] <xales> (you could use a mod to change how it _appears_ however)
#791 [04:31] <Tharion> so each account = 20 bucks each time
#792 [04:31] <Tharion> yea i want the name appear ordeal
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#794 [04:31] <xales> We can't really help with specifics, as mods are not supported
#795 [04:31] <xales> Try #bukkit though
#796 [04:32] <Tharion> ill try that
#797 [04:32] <Kealper> xales: you is on windoze?
#798 [04:32] <xales> Kealper: yes
#799 [04:32] <xales> for only another minute
#800 [04:32] <xales> I'm falling asleep
#801 [04:32] <xales> :|
#802 [04:33] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/MCSSetup.exe gogo
#803 [04:33] <Tharion> whats that
#804 [04:33] <Kealper> a program i'm making
#805 [04:33] <Tharion> whats it do
#806 [04:33] <Kealper> easy minecraft server setup
#807 [04:33] <piemun> Lol o.o
#808 [04:33] <piemun> OOOH servers.
#809 [04:34] <Kealper> Minecraft Server Setup Wizard :o
#810 [04:34] <Tharion> some servers can be a total pain
#811 [04:34] <Kealper> xales: did you download it yet?
#812 [04:34] <xales> Kealper, definately some stuff to change
#813 [04:34] <Tharion> -.-'
#814 [04:34] <xales> yeah
#815 [04:34] <Kealper> xales: hit me
#816 [04:34] <xales> the server.properties needs to be reworked, lol
#817 [04:35] <xales> like, stuff that shouldn't be changed needs to be seperate, in an "Advanced" section
#818 [04:35] <xales> (like online-mode and world name and nether)
#819 [04:35] <xales> also, whitelist needs rewording
#820 [04:35] <Kealper> bleh, that means another GUI
#821 [04:35] <xales> just "I only want people on a whitelist to be able to join"
#822 [04:35] <Kealper> i'll just have a disclaimer saying if you don't understand it, don't touch it
#823 [04:36] <piemun> Uhm anyone know a motion detector mod besides than djoslin's?
#824 [04:36] <piemun> :U
#825 [04:36] <xales> Kealper: people won't really pay attention to that ._.
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#827 [04:36] <Kealper> xales: their fault then >:(
#828 [04:37] <xales> lol
#829 [04:37] <Kealper> if you really REALLY want me to make a separate GUI for the other options, i will...but it's way more work than i'd like to do
#830 [04:37] <Kealper> although
#831 [04:38] <Kealper> i guess i could just do GUI groups
#832 [04:38] <xales> lol
#833 [04:38] <xales> well...I'm going to bed
#834 [04:38] <xales> have fun
#835 [04:38] <Kealper> cya lol
#836 [04:38] <Kealper> i might just leave it as-is...i'm bored of this program now
#837 [04:39] <Kealper> oh...xales....one last question
#838 [04:40] <Kealper> bleh, nvm...i'll just make it a button that people can press at the end of it, less shady that way
#839 [04:48] <AG_Scott> gah
#840 [04:48] <AG_Scott> he went to bed
#841 [04:48] <Kealper> O.o
#842 [04:48] <AG_Scott> xales.
#843 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> He's dead
#844 [04:49] <Kealper> AG_Scott: when i get done adding this last bit to this program...you should totally see if it fails extra bad in wine lol
#845 [04:50] <AG_Scott> ok.
#846 [04:50] <AG_Scott> i have the commercial version which has stuff added so it will be different
#847 [04:50] <Kealper> lol
#848 [04:52] * GreyVulpine snickers at the possibility of a Portal 2 P2P concept.
#848 [04:52] <Kealper> lolwut
#849 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> Costs $ to place portals
#850 [04:52] <Kealper> lol
#851 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> If you place a portal, you better be damn sure it's where you want it
#852 [04:52] <Kealper> yeah lol
#853 [04:52] <AG_Scott> My feet are so cold D:
#854 [04:53] <AG_Scott> wtf why is it cold in here :(
#855 [04:53] * Kealper makes a file called index.a3w
#855 [04:53] <Kealper> #! C:\xampp\au3\AutoCGI.exe \o/
#856 [04:54] <Kealper> actually it'd be quicker if i didn't use that
#857 [04:55] <Kealper> #! C:\xampp\au3\AutoIt3.exe /ErrorStdOut \o/
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#859 [04:57] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper.
#859 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/Kealper
#860 [04:57] <Kealper> rawr
#861 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Why you no have Portal 2.
#862 [04:57] <Kealper> broke :/
#863 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> :(
#864 [04:58] <AG_Scott> how do you stop minecraft classic server? o.O
#865 [04:58] <Kealper> typing stop? lol
#866 [04:58] <AG_Scott> dun work
#867 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Erm
#868 [04:58] <AG_Scott> nothing in readme about it either :s
#869 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> There should be a readme of commands..
#870 [04:59] <AG_Scott> there is
#871 [04:59] <AG_Scott> but it's not there :/
#872 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> You sure?
#873 [04:59] * GreyVulpine downloads
#873 [04:59] <AG_Scott> yep.
#874 [05:00] <AG_Scott> i've tried stop quit save exit
#875 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Huh...
#876 [05:00] <AG_Scott> none of those work :/
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#880 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't know
#881 [05:04] <AG_Scott> do you know who manages the wiki?
#882 [05:05] <Kealper> uhh.....Quatroking
#883 [05:05] <AG_Scott> should i report a broken link?
#884 [05:05] <Kealper> probably lol
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#891 [05:48] <Netu> I consider the lot of you intelligent people. Always helpful. Well, I want the "most optimal" start shell for my server possible. I've googled and googled, and everyone says one thing or the other. So, I'm just going to put myself out there and ask if anyone in here has an opinion, and just be swayed by that. :-|
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#894 [05:54] <ksnap_AU> start shell?
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#896 [05:57] <NotiCon> "most optimal" start shell for slacking?
#897 [05:58] <gPad2002> He means a shell script I guess
#898 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Netu - Can you tell us the type of server, and how many people you want to host at one time?
#899 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Also, server stats too.
#900 [05:59] <Netu> Ah, sorry, I had to AFK quickly.
#901 [06:00] <Netu> The type of server? It is a VPS. 4.0ghz on two cores. 4gigs of memory. It's a survival server, if that's needed knowledge.
#902 [06:00] <Netu> And yes, gPad2002, a shell script for starting the server. Sorry that wasn't clear, haha.
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#904 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> Running just a straight vanilla survival server, or modded in some way?
#905 [06:01] <Netu> It is on Bukkit. I'll pastebin what I use currently.
#906 [06:01] <gPad2002> java -server -XmX2048m -jar minecraft_server.jar
#907 [06:02] <Netu> http://pastebin.com/6kSLdi1R
#908 [06:02] <Netu> There you are.
#909 [06:02] * GreyVulpine pokes AG_Scott
#909 [06:03] <gPad2002> That looks fine to me
#910 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Same.
#911 [06:03] <Netu> Hrm. See, it's pecular though, because I still get little "hiccups" of lag every so often.
#912 [06:03] <Netu> I am not certain why. I use very, very few plugins...
#913 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> World generation lag?
#914 [06:03] <Netu> It's nearly vanilla.
#915 [06:03] <Netu> Perhaps! This is a fresh world...
#916 [06:04] <Netu> But it has been up for some time--a few hours, and we explored a bit...
#917 [06:04] <Netu> Do you think that is all it is, perhaps?
#918 [06:04] <gPad2002> Most likely
#919 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> If it's just a slight hiccup, it's probably just world generation lag.
#920 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Unless you're running some sort of full world backup or dynamic map renderer program in the background
#921 [06:05] <Netu> Glad to hear. I hope it adjusts. Thanks for your help, everyone. Glad to know this is an okay start shell.
#922 [06:05] <Netu> No, neither.
#923 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, my guess is just that.
#924 [06:05] <Netu> Surely 4gigs of memory is enough to handle that then, though, no?
#925 [06:05] <Netu> -then*
#926 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> You're running it with 2 gigs dedicated there.
#927 [06:05] <Netu> Right. But I have 4gigs total. Should I bump it up?
#928 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Depends on your OS and java version
#929 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Are you running a 32 or 64 bit OS?
#930 [06:06] <Netu> Debian 5.0 64 bit. And for Java...1.6, I think, checking now
#931 [06:06] <Netu> java version "1.6.0_22"
#932 [06:06] <Netu> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
#933 [06:06] <Netu> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode)
#934 [06:06] <Netu> (Doh, sorry.)
#935 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure you can bump it up a bit further on a 64 bit OS with a 64bit java
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#937 [06:09] <Netu> Is 3G of memory advisable, or should it be an even number?
#938 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> It really is up to you, it can basically be any number up to your max.
#939 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Are you running anything else on that VPS?
#940 [06:10] <Netu> I am not.
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#942 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Then I don't see any reason why you shouldn't push it to 3-3.5 gigs. Get your money's worth
#943 [06:11] <Netu> Haha, fair enough. What would the number be for that, then? Could I just put 3.5G in place of the 2048MB?
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#945 [06:11] <Netu> Or should I use 3584MB?
#946 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> Either 3G or 3584MB
#947 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> for 3 gigs, or 3.5 gigs respectively
#948 [06:15] <Netu> Thank you very much GreyVulpine for all of your assistance. /tipofthehat This is why this channel is so great. ;-)
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#950 [06:19] <HamishCla> hi
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#953 [06:23] <LuckyGlues> Is charcoal more efficient than coal?
#954 [06:23] <HamishCla> help
#955 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#956 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> It's the same in every respect
#957 [06:23] <Kealper> it's essentially the same
#958 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> ...
#959 [06:23] <LuckyGlues> Ok, thanks
#960 [06:24] <Kealper> that person really needs to update his ipod to the latest iOS
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#962 [06:33] <Morrolan> Someone in here mod on the minecraftforums?
#963 [06:34] <Kealper> not sure, but i don't think so :/
#964 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to get #minecraftforums for that
#965 [06:34] <Morrolan> Oh, didn't knew that channel, thanks.
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#967 [06:44] <HamishCla> hello
#968 [06:44] <Kealper> hi
#969 [06:44] <HamishCla> I
#970 [06:44] <HamishCla> I'm new to irc
#971 [06:44] <Kealper> ok...lol
#972 [06:44] <HamishCla> I'm talking from my iPod touch
#973 [06:45] <Kealper> i figured as much, it says you are using a client called IRChon :P
#974 [06:45] <Kealper> my friend has that client on his ipod lol
#975 [06:45] <HamishCla> the whole point of this was to contact notch. lol
#976 [06:45] <Kealper> ahh, well...he doesn't hardly come on irc anymore, was there anything specifically that you needed help with? i could assist
#977 [06:45] <Morrolan> He's rarely on IRC anymore.
#978 [06:46] <Morrolan> Ouch, ninja'd by a much longer sentence. :D
#979 [06:46] <Kealper> :P
#980 [06:46] <HamishCla> who's this
#981 [06:46] <Kealper> this who? O.o
#982 [06:46] <Morrolan> Or me?
#983 [06:47] <HamishCla> so do you guys own minecraft
#984 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Indeed we do
#985 [06:47] <HamishCla> I bought it last weekend
#986 [06:48] <HamishCla> I have a server but I'm not on right now
#987 [06:48] <Kealper> lol
#988 [06:48] <HamishCla> lol I'm on multiple irc channels at the same time
#989 [06:49] <Kealper> many people in here are :P
#990 [06:49] * GreyVulpine is on 5 networks, totaling 32 channels..
#990 [06:49] <HamishCla> I'm on other irc minecraft channels
#991 [06:49] * GreyVulpine blames valve ARG
#991 [06:50] <HamishCla> wow I'm a noob
#992 [06:50] <Kealper> 5 networks? dang lol...i'm usually only on 3 lol
#993 [06:50] <OODavo> I'm only on two. :O
#994 [06:50] <HamishCla> do you have a server
#995 [06:51] <Kealper> many people in this channel do, but this channel is a tech support channel, so most of the people in here are quite nerdy :P
#996 [06:51] <HamishCla> can you add friends
#997 [06:51] <Kealper> on what?
#998 [06:51] <Kealper> irc?
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#1000 [06:51] <HamishCla> irc
#1001 [06:52] <Kealper> no, it doesn't have friends lists
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#1003 [06:53] <Kealper> no, it doesn't have friends lists
#1004 [06:54] <HamishCla> k
#1005 [06:54] <Kealper> and don't you have the latest iOS updates? it should allow multiple programs to be running ._.
#1006 [06:54] <HamishCla> my client keeps dropping out
#1007 [06:54] <Kealper> are you pressing the home button on your ipod? lol
#1008 [06:54] <HamishCla> yes I do jailbroken untethered on 4.3.1
#1009 [06:55] <HamishCla> no lol
#1010 [06:55] <Kealper> oh, bleh
#1011 [06:55] <HamishCla> I'm nerdy
#1012 [06:55] <HamishCla> I got in big trouble at school for hacking the system completely
#1013 [06:55] <Kealper> lol...
#1014 [06:55] <OODavo> Ooh, do tell.
#1015 [06:55] <HamishCla> what u mean
#1016 [06:56] <HamishCla> tell how I did it
#1017 [06:56] <OODavo> What did you exploit to achieve this hack? What were the results?
#1018 [06:57] <HamishCla> first on a different computer I logged in and I was admin for some reason
#1019 [06:57] <HamishCla> so I deleted the admin and made my own lol
#1020 [06:57] <OODavo> … for "some reason"? :/
#1021 [06:57] <HamishCla> then on another computer I was able to open msconfig
#1022 [06:58] <Kealper> hmm...i think....
#1023 [06:58] <HamishCla> I was able to disable all the policies and make the computer automatically boot into safe mode every time u turned it on
#1024 [06:59] <Kealper> i'm going to put a give feedback button on my minecraft server setup wizard
#1025 [06:59] <OODavo> Fun.
#1026 [06:59] <HamishCla> ya you wanna no the tool I used to do it
#1027 [06:59] <Kealper> OODavo: you use linux, right?
#1028 [07:00] <OODavo> Kealper: Indeed, I do. Specifically Mint at present.
#1029 [07:00] <Kealper> got wine installed?
#1030 [07:00] <OODavo> Yep.
#1031 [07:00] <Kealper> care to test this program i'm making? i would like to know if it runs under wine lol
#1032 [07:00] <HamishCla> u wanna know the tool i used
#1033 [07:00] <Kealper> HamishCla: tool for what? :/
#1034 [07:01] <OODavo> Certainly, I'll test it.
#1035 [07:01] <OODavo> What did you write it in, by the way?
#1036 [07:01] <HamishCla> u a programmer like me
#1037 [07:01] <Kealper> OODavo: thanks lol, let me finish wrapping stuff up and removing debug code and i'll compile it
#1038 [07:01] <Morrolan> Kealper: Are you developing a custom server? Or did you create a setup for the vanialla server?
#1039 [07:01] <HamishCla> to exploit
#1040 [07:01] <Kealper> OODavo: it's in AutoIt
#1041 [07:01] <OODavo> Intriguing.
#1042 [07:01] <Kealper> Morrolan: just an easy setup tool for windows for the vanilla server
#1043 [07:01] <HamishCla> it's called: hang
#1044 [07:01] <Morrolan> Ok.
#1045 [07:02] <HamishCla> wait
#1046 [07:02] <Kealper> nothing too fancy, but it'll make life easy for the 5 billion people a day that come through here saying "how do i set up a server?"
#1047 [07:02] <OODavo> 'kay, I'll check it out. Got a link?
#1048 [07:02] <Kealper> i'll throw a link in here when i compile it
#1049 [07:02] <HamishCla> its not called that
#1050 [07:02] <OODavo> People actually running Linux probably wouldn't need to use it anyway, though. :/
#1051 [07:03] <HamishCla> it's called: Re-Enable v2
#1052 [07:03] <Kealper> yeah, but it'd still be nice if it ran under wine lol
#1053 [07:04] <OODavo> AutoIt relies heavily on Windows' APIs, according to the site. But Wine has implemented most of these, so we shall see.
#1054 [07:04] <Kealper> which is why i'm making it just for windows.....windows users are really the only ones that have the "how do i do this" questions :/
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#1056 [07:04] <HamishCla> I'm nack here's the link
#1057 [07:04] <HamishCla> http://www.tangosoft.co.uk/re-enable%20v2.html
#1058 [07:04] <Kealper> yeah, most AutoIt stuff works under wine, as long as it doesn't get too heavily into stuff
#1059 [07:05] <Kealper> HamishCla: this is not really a "hacking" channel :/
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#1061 [07:05] <HamishCla> I starting to make programs for iOS
#1062 [07:05] <HamishCla> I know
#1063 [07:06] <HamishCla> it's actually Hamish
#1064 [07:06] <HamishCla> there
#1065 [07:06] <Kealper> i'm just typing ha and pressing tab to fill in the rest of your name...lol
#1066 [07:07] <HamishCla> k
#1067 [07:07] <HamishCla> u program c++
#1068 [07:08] <Kealper> i've messed around with C++ but i don't know it well enough to say i program with it :/
#1069 [07:08] <Kealper> ok, got that all tidied up
#1070 [07:08] <Hamish> what do u use
#1071 [07:08] * Kealper cpiles
#1071 [07:08] <Kealper> compiles*
#1072 [07:08] <OODavo> I haven't really looked at any C-based languages at all. :/
#1073 [07:09] <Kealper> xales has been trying to teach me C lol
#1074 [07:09] <OODavo> With the exception of Java.
#1075 [07:09] <Hamish> does any one program for iOS
#1076 [07:09] * GreyVulpine hasn't touched objective-C
#1076 [07:09] <Kealper> i don't, since it requires Objective-C :/
#1077 [07:09] <Hamish> the language is objective c
#1078 [07:10] <Hamish> I have it's pretty awesome
#1079 [07:10] <OODavo> I really don't like the way one is locked to using specific languages. :|
#1080 [07:10] <Kealper> OODavo: +1
#1081 [07:10] <OODavo> Really any language should be translatable to whatever bytecode iOS uses.
#1082 [07:10] <Hamish> u can get specific asks then import to iOS
#1083 [07:10] <Kealper> that's why i can't stand Apple...it's either you use their products the way they tell you, or you don't use them at all
#1084 [07:11] <Kealper> i think Objective-C compiles to machine code, doesn't it?
#1085 [07:11] <OODavo> Then again, on Android one is essentially forced into Java.
#1086 [07:11] <Hamish> sorry specific sdks
#1087 [07:11] <Hamish> year
#1088 [07:11] <Hamish> it does
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#1090 [07:12] <Hamish> it all depends on how u program
#1091 [07:12] <wheybags> hello
#1092 [07:12] <Kealper> hello
#1093 [07:12] <Hamish> I program a little with c++
#1094 [07:13] <Kealper> ok OODavo, compiled and working fine, lemme make a folder on my server for it and throw it there
#1095 [07:13] <OODavo> Okay, one should be able to translate any language down to iOS machine code. :P
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#1097 [07:13] <wheybags> uh... i updated minecraft and now i can't use my saves
#1098 [07:13] <OODavo> Right. :)
#1099 [07:13] <OODavo> wheybags: That doesn't sound good.
#1100 [07:13] <wheybags> they are still there in ~/.minecraft/saves, but I can't use them
#1101 [07:13] <Kealper> OODavo: http://mc.kealper.com/Files/MCSSetup.exe
#1102 [07:13] <OODavo> Do they not show up in-game at all?
#1103 [07:13] <wheybags> nope
#1104 [07:13] <wheybags> only 1
#1105 [07:13] <Kealper> O.o
#1106 [07:14] <wheybags> World1
#1107 [07:14] <Kealper> that isn't good
#1108 [07:14] <wheybags> anyone got any clue?
#1109 [07:14] <Kealper> it sounds like your save files might have been corrupted from something :/
#1110 [07:14] <Hamish> what are u programming exactly
#1111 [07:14] <wheybags> they worked fine until i updated
#1112 [07:14] <wheybags> i hadnt played in a good while
#1113 [07:14] <OODavo> Looks like your wizard has started up just fine. ^_^
#1114 [07:14] <wheybags> since the halloween update
#1115 [07:14] <Hamish> update your saves
#1116 [07:15] <Kealper> Hamish: a setup wizard that downloads and sets up a minecraft server on windows with ease
#1117 [07:15] <Kealper> OODavo: \o/
#1118 [07:15] <Hamish> with what
#1119 [07:15] <wheybags> then i started mc yestaerday, updated and my saves were not there
#1120 [07:15] <OODavo> Looks like the whole wizard works fine! :D
#1121 [07:16] <OODavo> Grabbed my IP fine and everything. ^_^
#1122 [07:16] <Kealper> awesome lol
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#1124 [07:16] <Kealper> i guess i don't give wine enough credit lol
#1125 [07:16] <Hamish> can I have a look at it
#1126 [07:16] <Kealper> Hamish: same link as i gave to OODavo above
#1127 [07:16] <wheybags> has this ecer happened to anyone else before ? ;_;
#1128 [07:17] <Hamish> k
#1129 [07:17] <Kealper> wheybags: i haven't heard of almost all of someone's saves being corrupted, but saves can be corrupted like that :/
#1130 [07:17] <wheybags> well
#1131 [07:17] <wheybags> there was only one
#1132 [07:17] <Hamish> how long u guys stay up
#1133 [07:17] <Kealper> wheybags: you said the folders themselves were still there, right?
#1134 [07:17] <wheybags> yep
#1135 [07:18] <Kealper> open it up and look for a file called level.dat.old or something like that, delete level.dat and rename the "old" one to just level.dat
#1136 [07:18] <Kealper> Hamish: depends what time i go to bed at
#1137 [07:19] <Hamish> what time u go to bed
#1138 [07:19] <Kealper> at like 5pm last night
#1139 [07:19] <Hamish> I got to bed around nine thirty
#1140 [07:19] <Kealper> so...i'm up for the rest of the day lol
#1141 [07:19] <Hamish> how old r u I'm 14
#1142 [07:20] <Kealper> youngin >.>
#1143 [07:20] <wheybags> Kealper: HOLY SHIT IT WORKED THANK YOU SO MUCH
#1144 [07:20] <Kealper> wheybags: :P
#1145 [07:20] <Hamish> how old
#1146 [07:20] <Kealper> well...if you're in the USA...in a few months i'll be old enough to drink alcohol...lol
#1147 [07:20] <Hamish> r u
#1148 [07:21] <Kealper> (shuddup grey, ya ol'd fogey >.>)
#1149 [07:21] <Kealper> ol'*
#1150 [07:21] <Hamish> u have to be 18 right
#1151 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1152 [07:21] <Kealper> no, that's to smoke lol
#1153 [07:21] * GreyVulpine didn't say anything!
#1153 [07:21] <Hamish> I'm in australia
#1154 [07:21] <Kealper> oh, i'm 20 then lol
#1155 [07:21] <Hamish> u want to smoke
#1156 [07:22] <Kealper> no, i was just saying 18 is the age that you can smoke at, not drink at lol
#1157 [07:22] <OODavo> You need to be 21 to get alcohol in the US?
#1158 [07:22] * GreyVulpine nods
#1158 [07:22] <Kealper> sadly
#1159 [07:22] <Hamish> k
#1160 [07:22] <Kealper> worst part
#1161 [07:22] <Kealper> i can see Canada from my house, so everyone around here just goes a mile east to Canada to go drink at 19 lol
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#1163 [07:23] <OODavo> :P
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#1165 [07:23] <Hamish> I don't want to drink or smoke
#1166 [07:23] <Kealper> anywho....i guess it's probably time i actually made that feedback submit page parse the data instead of just dumping it into a file lol
#1167 [07:23] <Kealper> at 14, i'd hope not lol
#1168 [07:24] <OODavo> Oh, I didn't try the feedback thing. :O
#1169 [07:24] <Hamish> lol
#1170 [07:24] <Kealper> smoking and drinking is bad for you when you're an adult, it's even worse when you're not an adult :/
#1171 [07:24] <Hamish> I don't want to in any of my life
#1172 [07:24] <Hamish> I know
#1173 [07:24] <OODavo> Oh, just noticed a weird UI thing.
#1174 [07:25] <Kealper> hmm?
#1175 [07:25] <OODavo> On the feedback button it says "… and collect a bit of"
#1176 [07:25] <OODavo> But doesn't finish the sentence. :|
#1177 [07:25] <Kealper> O.o
#1178 [07:25] <Kealper> the feedback button itself? or the text next to it?
#1179 [07:25] <OODavo> The text, sorry.
#1180 [07:26] <OODavo> The rest of the text in the app looks fine. It's just that one description.
#1181 [07:26] <Hamish> u guys like doctor who
#1182 [07:26] <OODavo> Yes.
#1183 [07:26] <Kealper> hmm...the font used in Mint is probably a bit bigger than the default in windows
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#1185 [07:26] * Kealper extends that control's size a bit
#1185 [07:26] <OODavo> Ah, that makes sense.
#1186 [07:26] <Hamish> looking forward to season 6
#1187 [07:27] <OODavo> Did you see the latest comic relief episode?
#1188 [07:27] <Hamish> no
#1189 [07:27] <OODavo> It has crazy time-travel shenanigans. ^_^
#1190 [07:27] <Hamish> is it on the website
#1191 [07:27] <OODavo> Perhaps. Check YouTube? :P
#1192 [07:28] <Hamish> k cause I can't watch anything on the site I have to be in the ul
#1193 [07:28] <Hamish> uk
#1194 [07:28] <OODavo> Kealper: Since you have a char limit on the feedback form, it'd be nice to have a characters-remaining counter.
#1195 [07:29] <Kealper> that would mean i would have to make a real GUI for it instead of just relying on a built-in input box function :<
#1196 [07:29] <OODavo> Ah.
#1197 [07:29] <OODavo> Fair enough.
#1198 [07:29] <Kealper> and i'm a tad lazy lol
#1199 [07:30] <Kealper> actually
#1200 [07:30] <Kealper> if i just made it ghetto, it would only take a few min....
#1201 [07:30] * Kealper gets to work
#1201 [07:30] <OODavo> Uh oh.
#1202 [07:30] <OODavo> When I tried to submit my feedback I got an exception.
#1203 [07:30] <Kealper> O.o
#1204 [07:30] <OODavo> "Line 75, variable must be of type "Object"."
#1205 [07:31] <Hamish> I'm thinking of making a irc channel do u know how to
#1206 [07:31] <Kealper> the unfortunate thing about that....is that line error is totally meaningless, as the code is obfuscated lol
#1207 [07:31] <OODavo> :|
#1208 [07:31] <Kealper> Hamish: just join a channel that no one else is in
#1209 [07:31] <OODavo> Hamish: Just… gah, ninja'd. :
#1210 [07:32] <Hamish> what language r u using
#1211 [07:32] <Kealper> although i think i know what it's from
#1212 [07:32] <Kealper> Hamish: AutoIt
#1213 [07:32] <Hamish> k
#1214 [07:32] <OODavo> Found another problem, but definitely Wine-specific: the Web site links don't work because I don't have any browsers installed into my Wine environment.
#1215 [07:32] <Kealper> it's probably from the winapi calls, for getting some of the anonymous usage stats crap that is submitted along with the comment :/
#1216 [07:32] <Hamish> my iPods on 8% battery
#1217 [07:33] <OODavo> The Create Shortcut button appears to work fine, though. :)
#1218 [07:33] <Kealper> lol
#1219 [07:33] <Kealper> ok so i guess they got most of the winapi stuff covered in wine lol
#1220 [07:33] <Hamish> so are u friends
#1221 [07:33] <Hamish> or u met tonight
#1222 [07:34] <Kealper> but system metrics COM stuff, and ShellExecute calls don't work :/
#1223 [07:34] <OODavo> :|
#1224 [07:34] <Kealper> OODavo has been in this channel for a while lol
#1225 [07:35] <OODavo> ShellExecute calls? What were they doing? :/
#1226 [07:35] <Hamish> oh so u are friends
#1227 [07:35] <OODavo> Colleagues, perhaps.
#1228 [07:35] <Kealper> i'd say more like aquaintances lol
#1229 [07:35] <OODavo> Or acquaintences, yes.
#1230 [07:35] <Hamish> are :) me too then
#1231 [07:36] <Kealper> well, since i'm going to just throw a \r\n in that one line and drop it down to two lines for the description
#1232 [07:36] <Kealper> that means i get a whole extra line to be more descriptive! \o/
#1233 [07:36] <OODavo> ^_^
#1234 [07:37] <Hamish> its 9:37pm here
#1235 [07:37] <Hamish> what about u
#1236 [07:37] <Kealper> 7:30 am here lol
#1237 [07:37] <OODavo> It's 21:37 here.
#1238 [07:37] <Hamish> wow
#1239 [07:37] <OODavo> 24-hour time FTW.
#1240 [07:37] <Kealper> psh
#1241 [07:38] <Hamish> so are u in australia
#1242 [07:38] <Kealper> 90% of americans don't even know how to read an analogue clock, let alone 24-hour time lol
#1243 [07:38] <OODavo> Hamish: I have the exact same time as you. :P
#1244 [07:38] <OODavo> So yes.
#1245 [07:38] <Hamish> so u r in Brisbane
#1246 [07:38] <Kealper> well, you could be in china :o
#1247 [07:38] <OODavo> Newcastle, actually.
#1248 [07:38] <OODavo> Oh, true, I could. :/
#1249 [07:38] <Hamish> Are
#1250 [07:39] <Hamish> going to dreamworld tomorro
#1251 [07:39] <Hamish> my first time
#1252 [07:39] <OODavo> Kealper: I assume from the obfuscation of your code that you're not planning to release the source? :/
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#1254 [07:39] <Kealper> OODavo: on-request, i will lol
#1255 [07:40] <nubie> hey guys i cant run it in ubuntu, help
#1256 [07:40] <OODavo> Ah, okay. :)
#1257 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#1258 [07:40] <OODavo> nubie: Getting any error messages?
#1259 [07:40] <Kealper> so if that was a request, i could share lol
#1260 [07:40] <wheybags> wtf
#1261 [07:40] <Hamish> have u been to dreamworld
#1262 [07:40] <OODavo> I haven't. :/
#1263 [07:41] <wheybags> is soil and sand supposed to grow back
#1264 [07:41] <Kealper> i'm actually only running it through an obfuscator because it ends up making the source smaller before compiling, as it strips out all unused functions and variables from the includes
#1265 [07:41] <nubie> well when i run it in terminal it says lots of stuff about a exception in thread
#1266 [07:41] <OODavo> wheybags: They… really shouldn't. Are you on a multiplayer server?
#1267 [07:41] <wheybags> yes
#1268 [07:41] <nubie> alsoe obviously the desktop icon an menu icon are already there but nothing happens when i click them
#1269 [07:41] <Kealper> nubie: Bukkit?
#1270 [07:41] <OODavo> nubie: Do you have the Sun JVM installed?
#1271 [07:41] <wheybags> yes
#1272 [07:41] <wheybags> it's my mp server
#1273 [07:41] <OODavo> wheybags: Are you an op on it?
#1274 [07:42] <wheybags> it's a metre away from me
#1275 [07:42] <nubie> OODavo: yes
#1276 [07:42] <wheybags> if im not, i can be
#1277 [07:42] <OODavo> Try opping yourself and see if that fixes the problem.
#1278 [07:42] <wheybags> how?
#1279 [07:42] <OODavo> On the server console, type "op yourname".
#1280 [07:43] <OODavo> You may need to be connected to the server to do so.
#1281 [07:43] <nubie> what can i do
#1282 [07:44] * Kealper doesn't feel like making a whole GUI for a button that people are probably not even going to click
#1282 [07:44] <Kealper> if they click it, they just get rewarded with a magical string-trim if it's longer than 500 chars
#1283 [07:44] <nubie> =(
#1284 [07:45] <wheybags> OODavo: that kinda worked, why did it do that?
#1285 [07:45] <OODavo> nubie: When do you get the thread exception messages? On run? On connecting to a server?
#1286 [07:45] <Hamish> I'm gonna make my own irc channel tomorrow since I'm on holidays
#1287 [07:45] <nubie> OODavo: on run
#1288 [07:45] <OODavo> wheybags: Ah. The area directly around the spawn on an SMP server is protected. Only ops can change bits of it.
#1289 [07:45] <Kealper> Hamish: it's not hard lol, just join the channel that you want, and it will create it automatically
#1290 [07:45] <Hamish> I tell you what it's called then
#1291 [07:45] <wheybags> OODavo: Oh
#1292 [07:45] <OODavo> nubie: What command are you using to run it, precisely?
#1293 [07:46] <OODavo> wheybags: So either op yourself or stand further away. :P
#1294 [07:46] <nubie> OODavo: i just type "minecraft" it suposse to run just with that
#1295 [07:47] <Hamish> some one join 7hund3r to test
#1296 [07:47] <OODavo> nubie: Intriguing. How did you set this up? There shouldn't be such a command automatically.
#1297 [07:47] <nubie> using the scrip online
#1298 [07:48] <nubie> OODavo: using the scrip available
#1299 [07:48] <OODavo> Which script is this, exactly? Google turned up several.
#1300 [07:50] <nubie> OODavo: this one look "http://ubuntuguide.net/minecraft-installer-script-install-minecraft-in-ubuntu-completely-with-one-click"
#1301 [07:50] <OODavo> Ah, I see.
#1302 [07:50] <OODavo> Hmm.
#1303 [07:50] <OODavo> That script installs OpenJDK and not the Sun one. Could pose an issue. :|
#1304 [07:51] <nubie> OODavo: how do i install the Sun one?
#1305 [07:51] <OODavo> apt-get install sun-java6-plugin should work.
#1306 [07:52] <nubie> OODavo: in process.. =D
#1307 [07:53] <OODavo> :)
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#1309 [07:54] <Hamish> can u make it so only certain people can join
#1310 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes, whitelisting
#1311 [07:55] <Hamish> I'll
#1312 [07:55] <Hamish> be back
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#1314 [07:56] <Kealper> SQOZZA Y U DC
#1315 [07:56] <nubie> does anyone no the profile of the main coder
#1316 [07:56] <Kealper> nubie: the main programmer of Minecraft? lol
#1317 [07:57] <Sqozza> My internet is wogl
#1318 [07:57] <Kealper> Sqozza: i actually thought you were afk, and was just yelling at a brick wall lol
#1319 [07:57] <nubie> Kealper: yeah
#1320 [07:57] <Sqozza> me?
#1321 [07:57] <nubie> Kealper: the gingerone, not notch
#1322 [07:57] <Sqozza> Afk?
#1323 [07:57] <Sqozza> lolol
#1324 [07:57] <Kealper> nubie: Markus "Notch" Persson, a quick google search of his name will get you loads of info
#1325 [07:57] <Kealper> nubie: oh, that is Jens Bergstein
#1326 [07:58] <Kealper> aja Jeb
#1327 [07:58] <Kealper> aka*
#1328 [07:58] <nubie> Kealper: i google him but no info
#1329 [07:58] <Kealper> hmm..lemme confirm the spelling of his name real quick
#1330 [07:58] <Kealper> oh, i butchered his last name
#1331 [07:58] <Kealper> BUTCHERED lol
#1332 [07:58] <Kealper> Bergensten
#1333 [07:59] <Sqozza> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK8Fk63Sj60
#1334 [07:59] <Sqozza> wtf did I just watch
#1335 [08:00] <nubie> Sqozza my god that cat rules
#1336 [08:00] <Kealper> Sqozza: the hell?
#1337 [08:00] <nubie> lol
#1338 [08:00] <Kealper> lol
#1339 [08:00] <Sqozza> Kealper: My exact thought process right there.
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#1341 [08:01] <OODavo> What.
#1342 [08:01] <Kealper> exactly lol
#1343 [08:02] <Sqozza> I'mma go sleep.
#1344 [08:02] <Sqozza> night.
#1345 [08:02] * Kealper waves _o/
#1345 [08:02] <Sqozza> (I'm rarely truly afk, if I'm needed, beep me.)
#1346 [08:02] <OODavo> o/
#1347 [08:02] <Sqozza> I just play Combat Arms #allday
#1348 [08:02] <Kealper> bleh
#1349 [08:02] <Kealper> that game was cool back in beta
#1350 [08:02] <nubie> but i wonder what bergensten study or what credentials he have
#1351 [08:02] <Sqozza> He is a wizard.
#1352 [08:03] <Sqozza> He studies magic.
#1353 [08:03] <nubie> xD
#1354 [08:03] <Sqozza> :)
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#1356 [08:03] <Kealper> nubie: developer at Oxeye Games, he is well-versed in atleast Java, C++, and Lua
#1357 [08:03] <Hamish> just searching for better irc client
#1358 [08:03] <nubie> Kealper java is done...whats next
#1359 [08:04] <Kealper> probably knows more than that, too lol
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#1361 [08:05] <OODavo> Hamish's current client apparently doesn't respond to VERSION CTCPs. :/
#1362 [08:05] <Kealper> it's IRChon, a super basic, crappy free irc client for ipod touch/iphone :/
#1363 [08:05] <nubie> OODavo java is done what can i do now
#1364 [08:05] <lumpabi> can anyone help me? my account muskaa got throttled for 3 hours now it normaly is throttled 15 min plz help i want to play classic
#1365 [08:06] <OODavo> nubie: Try running it again. See what results you get now.
#1366 [08:06] <Kealper> lumpabi: throttled?
#1367 [08:06] <Kealper> lumpabi: could you be a bit more...descriptive?
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#1369 [08:06] <nubie> OODavo: it gave me the same result =(
#1370 [08:07] <lumpabi> Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes. i get when i try to login for 3 hours now
#1371 [08:07] <OODavo> nubie: D:
#1372 [08:07] <OODavo> What's the exact error you get? Pastebin it.
#1373 [08:07] <Kealper> lumpabi: are you sure no one else is trying to get in to your account? :/
#1374 [08:08] <lumpabi> i dont think so changed pass multiple times it was ok yesterday but its being like this for a week now
#1375 [08:08] <nubie> OODavo: "~$ minecraft Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException at java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.checkHeadless(GraphicsEnvironment.java:173) at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:437) at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:419) at net.minecraft.LauncherFrame.<init>(LauncherFrame.java:27) at net.minecraft.LauncherFrame.main(LauncherFrame.java:158)
#1376 [08:08] <nubie> at net.minecraft.MinecraftLauncher.main(MinecraftLauncher.java:13)
#1377 [08:08] <nubie> all that
#1378 [08:08] <Kealper> nubie: run it with "nogui" at the end of the jar file
#1379 [08:09] <Kealper> wait, actually
#1380 [08:09] <Kealper> is that the client or the server?
#1381 [08:09] <OODavo> It's the client, not the server.
#1382 [08:09] <Kealper> oh
#1383 [08:09] <Kealper> ignore me, i have no idea what i'm talking about then lol
#1384 [08:09] <nubie> =(
#1385 [08:10] <lumpabi> So if someone is trying to logon it what should i do?
#1386 [08:10] <Kealper> lumpabi: no idea then, you'll have to check with support@mojang.com and ask what's up :.
#1387 [08:10] <Kealper> :/*
#1388 [08:10] <lumpabi> k
#1389 [08:10] <OODavo> If I'm reading this right, the exact command used to run Minecraft is "java -jar pathtothejar".
#1390 [08:10] <OODavo> It may need to be a little more complex than that.
#1391 [08:11] <OODavo> nubie: Do you know how to edit files as root?
#1392 [08:11] <nubie> OODavo: no
#1393 [08:11] <OODavo> :/
#1394 [08:12] <OODavo> Okay, open up a terminal and run "sudo gedit /usr/local/bin/minecraft".
#1395 [08:13] <nubie> OODavo done
#1396 [08:13] <OODavo> The file that came up will contain "java -jar somepathhere".
#1397 [08:13] <nubie> yes
#1398 [08:14] <OODavo> Change that to say "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp thesamepath net.minecraft.LauncherFrame".
#1399 [08:15] <Kealper> can i put my 1.5 cents in again? lol
#1400 [08:15] <OODavo> ?
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#1402 [08:16] <nubie> the
#1403 [08:16] <Kealper> he is launching the actual minecraft launcher and not the one in ~/.minecraft/bin, right?
#1404 [08:16] <OODavo> Yeah, that's how the script works. I checked through it first.
#1405 [08:16] <Kealper> ok lol
#1406 [08:17] <nubie> OODavo between -cp and net.mine... i put the /home/... right?
#1407 [08:17] <OODavo> Yep.
#1408 [08:17] <OODavo> Oh, minor thought: your username doesn't have any spaces in it, right?
#1409 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. nubie had ubuntu's OpenJDK?
#1410 [08:18] <OODavo> Yeah, the script uses OpenJDK instead of the Sun one for some reason.
#1411 [08:18] <nubie> GreyVULPINE no, sun one
#1412 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then, did nubie switch java to sun's?
#1413 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#1414 [08:18] <Snowcat4> damn, installing Java 7 + optiFog really gave fps boost, now i can play on far with fancy with smooth lightning and fps is still 60
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#1416 [08:18] <nubie> i did as OODavo said
#1417 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> OODavo?
#1418 [08:18] <OODavo> GreyVulpine: I seem to remember that the Sun JVM has the highest priority in the alternatives system. :/
#1419 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Could you check again?
#1420 [08:19] <OODavo> Yeah, might be a good idea to check the alternatives with that command.
#1421 [08:19] <OODavo> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#1422 [08:20] <nubie> it says......There are 2 choices for the alternative java (providing /usr/bin/java). Selection Path Priority Status ------------------------------------------------------------ * 0 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java 1061 auto mode 1 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java 106
#1423 [08:20] <nubie> 1 auto mode 1 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java 1061 manual mode 2 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java 63 manual mode
#1424 [08:20] <OODavo> Ah, OpenJDK takes priority. :/
#1425 [08:21] <OODavo> You want to switch to using the other one.
#1426 [08:22] <nubie> OODavo: done
#1427 [08:22] <OODavo> Did you change that file as well? Save and close it, then try the command again.
#1428 [08:23] <nubie> i open the bin again?
#1429 [08:23] <OODavo> Sorry, not that command. The one that's just "minecraft". :|
#1430 [08:25] <nubie> omg instant boner
#1431 [08:25] <OODavo> ?
#1432 [08:25] <nubie> it workeD!
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#1434 [08:25] <OODavo> Oh, whew. :P
#1435 [08:25] <OODavo> Excellent. :)
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#1437 [08:26] <OODavo> That script really shouldn't be using OpenJDK. Minecraft doesn't like it. :/
#1438 [08:26] <nubie> i wonder why it doesnt like it
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#1440 [08:27] <OODavo> OpenJDK is an unofficial version of Java, basically; it's not perfect. Sun's Java is the original one, and is therefore the perfect version of Java.
#1441 [08:28] <OODavo> Minecraft relies on Java working the way it expects, and OpenJDK often works differently because it's an unofficial version.
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#1443 [08:28] <nubie> OODavo i see
#1444 [08:29] <nubie> man thanks a lot
#1445 [08:30] <nubie> omg so happy
#1446 [08:30] <OODavo> You're welcome. :)
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#1448 [08:31] <Hamish> hey
#1449 [08:31] <Hamish> still there
#1450 [08:31] <Kealper> always
#1451 [08:31] <Hamish> just doing some stuff
#1452 [08:32] <Hamish> with my jailbroken iPod touch 4g
#1453 [08:33] <nubie> but how i play now?
#1454 [08:33] <OODavo> nubie: Sorry? What's wrong now? :/
#1455 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> !tutorial
#1456 [08:34] <nubie> OODavo now the windows appears but
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#1458 [08:36] <OODavo> But? But what? :O
#1459 [08:36] <Krasiu> i have no idea
#1460 [08:36] <Krasiu> how ppl in my country
#1461 [08:37] <Krasiu> sell codes for 11Euro
#1462 [08:37] <nubie> which country?
#1463 [08:37] <peru> poland
#1464 [08:38] <Krasiu> yup, Poland
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#1466 [08:38] <nubie> OODavo i dont know how to play know, no the luncher appears, but, whats next?
#1467 [08:38] <OODavo> nubie: The launcher appears, and you can log in?
#1468 [08:38] <nubie> now*
#1469 [08:40] <nubie> nubie its says " user not premium " when i log
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#1471 [08:40] <OODavo> … have you actually bought Minecraft?
#1472 [08:40] <nubie> OODavo my god, aint there a demo version?
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#1474 [08:40] <OODavo> There's Minecraft Classic.
#1475 [08:41] <OODavo> At present, there's no demo of Beta.
#1476 [08:41] <nubie> ok , and minecraft classic you have to pay?
#1477 [08:41] <OODavo> No, Classic's free.
#1478 [08:42] <nubie> ok how i play that one
#1479 [08:42] <OODavo> On minecraft.net, the links are just under the Minecraft Beta ones.
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#1481 [08:45] <nubie> uhm
#1482 [08:49] <nubie> OODavo how much hardcore the retail one is
#1483 [08:49] <OODavo> "hardcore"?
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#1485 [08:50] <OODavo> The paid game is much more complex and interesting than the free one.
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#1487 [08:51] <nubie> my god i dont know
#1488 [08:52] <nubie> because i just got starcraft2 and cant freaking run it on ubuntu lol
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#1490 [08:53] <peru> linux fail
#1491 [08:53] <Hamish> this client I'm using I'd the only descent working client for iOS
#1492 [08:53] <nubie> no, blizzard fail
#1493 [08:54] <OODavo> Why did you get Starcraft II when you can't run it? :P
#1494 [08:54] <Hamish> _303
#1495 [08:55] <nubie> OODavo because linux is capable of everything
#1496 [08:55] <OODavo> Except for running SCII? :P
#1497 [08:55] <nubie> OODavo im just a n00b that doesnt know how to touch the rigth spots of her
#1498 [08:55] <OODavo> Fair enough.
#1499 [08:55] <Hamish> is kealper still hear
#1500 [08:56] <nubie> is just damn wine aint working dont know why
#1501 [08:57] <nubie> it worked with the demo version but with the retail disc it says that theres no info in the installer
#1502 [08:57] <Hamish> what are u talking about
#1503 [08:57] <OODavo> Probably some DRM crap stopping it from working.
#1504 [08:57] <OODavo> Try pirating it and see if that works. :P
#1505 [08:58] <nubie> how i do that
#1506 [08:58] <Hamish> run setup exe
#1507 [08:58] <OODavo> Pirating? You don't know how to pirate software? :O
#1508 [08:58] <Hamish> lol
#1509 [08:58] <Hamish> can u see me
#1510 [08:58] <OODavo> No, of course we can't see you.
#1511 [08:59] <Hamish> chatting
#1512 [08:59] <nubie> lol
#1513 [08:59] <Hamish> u weren't answering
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#1515 [08:59] <nubie> OODavo you mean rip?
#1516 [09:00] <OODavo> I was thinking more just go download a pirated copy off the 'net somewhere, but sure, ripping the disc and grabbing a crack could work too.
#1517 [09:00] <nubie> yeah thats what i need
#1518 [09:00] <nubie> cause i already have the disc
#1519 [09:00] <Hamish> no go to like the pirate bay search Starcraft ~|'mm
#1520 [09:01] <Hamish> 11 and download a torrent
#1521 [09:01] <fogWraith> :|
#1522 [09:01] <Hamish> :|
#1523 [09:03] <nubie> mm why better the torrent if i have the disc?
#1524 [09:03] <Hamish> oodavo what's the site where u can register a irc
#1525 [09:03] <OODavo> Hamish: … "register a irc"? What do you mean?
#1526 [09:04] <nubie> ?
#1527 [09:04] <Hamish> torrent is an extension which can be opened by bit torrent programs to download the files u want
#1528 [09:04] <OODavo> nubie: There should be torrents around that just have the crack and not the whole game.
#1529 [09:04] <Hamish> to keep it alive
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#1531 [09:05] <Hamish> u said the site earlier
#1532 [09:05] <nubie> ok ill search, because you know what, my little bro told me he will migrate to ubuntu if starcraft2 can be run on it
#1533 [09:05] <OODavo> Oh, it's not a site.
#1534 [09:06] <Hamish> when I was asking about it
#1535 [09:06] <Hamish> what is it
#1536 [09:06] <OODavo> ChanServ; it's a bot on the server that handles channel keep-aliving and stuff.
#1537 [09:07] <Hamish> how to you get it
#1538 [09:07] <OODavo> Do a /msg chanserv help for a command list.
#1539 [09:07] <OODavo> Or just /cs help if your client supports it.
#1540 [09:07] <Ir0nman> http://www.zshare.net/audio/89097345522bf0a6/
#1541 [09:08] <Hamish> what's this for
#1542 [09:08] <Ir0nman> audio sample
#1543 [09:08] <Hamish> thanks korai
#1544 [09:08] <Hamish> I mean oodavo
#1545 [09:09] <nubie> what about that song
#1546 [09:09] <Hamish> audio sample for what
#1547 [09:09] <nubie> it sounds like my oven when i turn it on
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#1550 [09:13] <DanDotOrg> I got a Minecraft Activation Code for my birthday. It says it's already been used or invalid. Am I entering it in the wrong place? minecraft.net/redeem?
#1551 [09:13] * BizarreCake [BizarreCake@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1552 [09:13] <nubie> no it means you got owned
#1553 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> DanDotOrg - Is it in the form of "xxxx-xxxx-xxxx"?
#1554 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> Including dashes?
#1555 [09:14] <DanDotOrg> yes. I tried both ways
#1556 [09:14] <DanDotOrg> every number and letter is correct
#1557 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> Do you know who gave it to you?
#1558 [09:14] <DanDotOrg> Yeah
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#1560 [09:14] <Hamish_> who
#1561 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> Could you get them to look at their minecraft.net profile page, it'll list the gift code there.
#1562 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> Have them confirm that it's the same gift code you got via email
#1563 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> It'll also tell them whether or not it's been redeemed
#1564 [09:15] <DanDotOrg> The code I have is on a printed card, it wasn't in an e-mail
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#1566 [09:15] <DanDotOrg> but I'll check with him to double check
#1567 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, you'll want to contact the person who bought it for you.
#1568 [09:15] <nubie> you got owned i gues
#1569 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> Easy there nubie
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#1571 [09:16] <nubie> ok
#1572 [09:16] <DanDotOrg> I've seen tons of forum posts os people running into the same issue, of course they never post how they resolved it, or if it's just a server issue
#1573 [09:16] <DanDotOrg> but thanks for the suggestion
#1574 [09:16] <Hamish_> it's 11:16pm here in Australia
#1575 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> More often than not, it's because of a miscommunication of the gift code.
#1576 [09:17] <DanDotOrg> ok, thanks
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#1579 [09:17] <timtamboy> Anyone around?
#1580 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1581 [09:18] <timtamboy> Haha the other mc channels are deserted
#1582 [09:18] <timtamboy> And on #minecraft it won't let me talk
#1583 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#1584 [09:18] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1585 [09:18] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1586 [09:18] <timtamboy> Ah
#1587 [09:18] <timtamboy> Gotcha, cheers
#1588 [09:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#1588 [09:19] <nubie> hey i tried to enter here using xchat in ubuntu but i cant acces de server, whats the name of it?
#1589 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> irc.esper.net
#1590 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> #minecrafthelp
#1591 [09:19] <Hamish> hi
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#1593 [09:20] <timtamboy> Thanks, working now :)
#1594 [09:20] <Hamish> hi
#1595 [09:20] <timtamboy> Would this be the correct place to ask for modding help?
#1596 [09:20] <Hamish> no
#1597 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what kind of help you need.
#1598 [09:20] <timtamboy> I'm attempting to teach myself modding
#1599 [09:20] <nubie> but i type that and it didnt worked
#1600 [09:20] <timtamboy> Only the basics
#1601 [09:20] <timtamboy> And the cloth confuses me
#1602 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> Could you clarify?
#1603 [09:21] <timtamboy> Sure
#1604 [09:21] <timtamboy> So basically
#1605 [09:21] <timtamboy> I was following a tutorial
#1606 [09:21] <timtamboy> Something about LightDirt?
#1607 [09:21] <Hamish> get paint.net and edit picture
#1608 [09:21] <timtamboy> Making a new block in minecraft
#1609 [09:21] <timtamboy> That worked pretty well,
#1610 [09:21] <timtamboy> Now, I'm trying to do the same thing with each cloth block
#1611 [09:21] <timtamboy> or something similiar anyway
#1612 [09:22] <timtamboy> And I was looking at the Block.Cloth and Item.Cloth classes, and I can't seem to work out how it assigns different colors, etc
#1613 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm... I see. You may be better off asking for help in either #risucraft or #mcp-modding
#1614 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> That's slightly out of scope of what we can provide here.
#1615 [09:22] <timtamboy> I see, thanks
#1616 [09:22] <Hamish> I can provide some help
#1617 [09:23] <Hamish> on some basic stuff
#1618 [09:23] <timtamboy> I'd be eternally grateful :)
#1619 [09:23] <Hamish> on what do u need
#1620 [09:23] <timtamboy> Give me a sec
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#1622 [09:24] <mib_fekv5q> hello
#1623 [09:24] <timtamboy> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1033&t=290183
#1624 [09:24] <timtamboy> Thats essentially what I'm trying to make
#1625 [09:24] <Hamish> k let me look
#1626 [09:24] <timtamboy> Cheers
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#1628 [09:25] <mib_fekv5q> i would like some assistance when so one is busy please ^_^
#1629 [09:25] <OODavo> mib_fekv5q: What seems to be the trouble?
#1630 [09:26] <mib_fekv5q> well i just bought the game and i proceeded to download it. the Client works fine but when i go to update. it freezes.
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#1632 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific? How does it freeze?
#1633 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> Does the loading bar stop loading? Does the program stop responding?
#1634 [09:27] <mib_fekv5q> it stops loading
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#1636 [09:27] <mib_fekv5q> it just sits there.
#1637 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> With, "Done loading"?
#1638 [09:28] <mib_fekv5q> yes and ''Downloading Packages''
#1639 [09:28] <Hamish> what u want it to do exactly
#1640 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Ah, easy enough to fix. What operating system are you on?
#1641 [09:28] <mib_fekv5q> Windows Xp
#1642 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Could you please go to your start menu, and go to the Run Command. Type in: %appdata%
#1643 [09:29] <Hamish> timtamboy what u want it to do exaclty
#1644 [09:29] <mib_fekv5q> absolutly
#1645 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Find your .minecraft folder, then delete everything in there except the saves folder
#1646 [09:29] <mib_fekv5q> Mmmk
#1647 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Then relaunch minecraft
#1648 [09:30] <mib_fekv5q> there are only 2 folders that show up. ''bin'' and ''resourses''
#1649 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Okay, delete those
#1650 [09:31] <Hamish> well I better go since he's not responding
#1651 [09:31] <mib_fekv5q> and launch
#1652 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1653 [09:31] <Hamish> bye
#1654 [09:31] <Hamish> everyone
#1655 [09:31] <mib_fekv5q> Mk shall i login to continue?
#1656 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1657 [09:32] <Hamish> http://gyazo.com/5b0dbe3726b22ec06018022706945adb.png
#1658 [09:32] <Hamish> go to link
#1659 [09:32] <mib_fekv5q> it is at the updating screen but the bar is not moving. ill give it a few and see if it changes any.
#1660 [09:33] <Hamish> anyone
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#1662 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_fekv5q - Hmm, it should load pretty quickly...
#1663 [09:34] <Hamish> http://gyazo.com/f2f1a4eac803d6b7067d9770e7b9235e.png
#1664 [09:34] <mib_fekv5q> Its still not doing anything.
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#1667 [09:34] <mib_fekv5q> I shouldn't have to allow it in my firewall should I?
#1668 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_fekv5q - Are you able to connect to minecraft.net via your browser?
#1669 [09:35] <Hamish> fine then
#1670 [09:35] <mib_fekv5q> Yes, I'm looking at the home page now
#1671 [09:35] <Hamish> bye
#1672 [09:36] <Hamish> kealper
#1673 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1674 [09:36] <mib_fekv5q> Hmm indeed :D
#1675 [09:36] <mib_fekv5q> Its had me puzzled for the past hour now lol.
#1676 [09:37] <Hamish> resize textures with mcpatcher
#1677 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Could you pull up a command prompt in windows, and do "nslookup minecraft.net"
#1678 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Tell me the last address it returns.
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#1680 [09:37] <mib_fekv5q> lol.....brain fart...what do you type in Run for the CP
#1681 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> "cmd"
#1682 [09:38] <Hamish> it works for me mcpatcher
#1683 [09:38] <mib_fekv5q> -face palm-
#1684 [09:38] <Hamish> I had the problem not that long ago
#1685 [09:39] <Hamish> mcpatcher fixed it
#1686 [09:39] <mib_fekv5q> 50.16.203.217
#1687 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Hm, that sounds right.
#1688 [09:40] <Hamish> BYE!!!
#1689 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_fekv5q - Is your firewall blocking minecraft or java from communicating?
#1690 [09:41] <mib_fekv5q> I checked alredy but i shall check again just to make sure.
#1691 [09:41] <Hamish> I just gave u the answer
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#1694 [09:45] <Openssh> !paid
#1695 [09:45] <Openssh> !paid Openssh
#1696 [09:45] <mib_fekv5q> Hmm. I set it to allow both, nothing. Turned off FW, nothing. So idk.
#1697 [09:46] <Openssh> !paid OpenSSH
#1698 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> What sort of security software are you running?
#1699 [09:46] <Openssh> !Paid SkuweR_
#1700 [09:46] <Openssh> !Paid metoboy
#1701 [09:46] <Openssh> !Paid Aygar
#1702 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1703 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam the bot
#1704 [09:46] <Openssh> !Paid Aygar
#1705 [09:46] <Openssh> !Paid Aygar
#1706 [09:46] <Openssh> !Paid Aygar
#1707 [09:46] <Openssh> !Paid Aygar
#1708 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> !k openssh
#1709 [09:46] * crickets kicked Openssh from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:631>)
#1710 [09:47] <oldtopmanserver> XD
#1711 [09:47] <mib_fekv5q> Only Windows Defender. but that's build in w/ Windows. I wouldn't think that would be blocking it.
#1712 [09:47] <oldtopmanserver> He certainly deserved it.
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#1714 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_fekv5q - How is your internet connection?
#1715 [09:49] <mib_fekv5q> Speed: 54.0 Mbps Signal: Low but that is average.
#1716 [09:49] <mib_fekv5q> OH!
#1717 [09:49] <mib_fekv5q> My Router might be blocking it!
#1718 [09:50] <mib_fekv5q> would i have to se the Ports for it?
#1719 [09:50] <mib_fekv5q> set*
#1720 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no, wouldn't need to.
#1721 [09:50] <oldtopmanserver> mib_fekv5q: Go to speedtest.net.
#1722 [09:50] <mib_fekv5q> my speed is fine :P
#1723 [09:51] <oldtopmanserver> hmmm
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#1725 [09:51] <mib_fekv5q> is there a direct update instead of having to use the client to update it?
#1726 [09:52] <Morrolan> Nope.
#1727 [09:52] <mib_fekv5q> like a ''Manual Patch'' as you will
#1728 [09:52] <mib_fekv5q> Hmm.
#1729 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Nope, because it requires a client login to confirm premium status
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#1731 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> before it'll let you download files.
#1732 [09:53] <mib_fekv5q> maybe the .EXE from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp has corrupted files?
#1733 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> The .exe is just a launcher, it contacts minecraft.net after you login, to download the rest of the files to your computer
#1734 [09:55] <mib_fekv5q> Lets say if i was to ''Port Forward'' the minecraft.exe file in my router. Do you thing that would help any?
#1735 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> It wouldn't
#1736 [09:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_fekv5q - Could you try this on a different computer? Possibly one that is hooked up directly to your router?
#1737 [09:56] <mib_fekv5q> Possibly.
#1738 [09:57] <mib_fekv5q> if it worked on the other computer. i could transfer the files via flash drive? (yay) (nay)
#1739 [09:57] <Morrolan> Yea, that should work.
#1740 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you could
#1741 [09:58] <mib_fekv5q> I shall return momentarily with the results.
#1742 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> It'll be in the same place, %appdata%/.minecraft
#1743 [10:04] <mib_fekv5q> How do i search for ''application data'' on vista? :/
#1744 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> Same way, use %appdata% in the search bar
#1745 [10:05] <mib_fekv5q> neet
#1746 [10:08] <mib_fekv5q> Allright
#1747 [10:08] <mib_fekv5q> lets see what happens
#1748 [10:10] <mib_fekv5q> Awesome!.
#1749 [10:10] <mib_fekv5q> It worked C:
#1750 [10:10] <mib_fekv5q> Thank you for all your help ^_^
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#1759 [11:20] <shadowmage222> hello
#1760 [11:21] <bluejello> hi
#1761 [11:22] <shadowmage222> does anyone know why my account has been made non premium iv already payed for it?
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#1763 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> shadowmage222 - Are you sure you're using the right username?
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#1765 [11:23] <shadowmage222> yeah i was using before i wiped my laptop and it was fine and then when i got it off a friend again the username said it wasnt premium
#1766 [11:23] <bluejello> !paid shadowmage222
#1767 [11:24] <bluejello> it should be premium even if the laptop was wiped.
#1768 [11:24] <bluejello> and that is the username right?
#1769 [11:24] <shadowmage222> iv got the paypal number to show that i payed for it :(
#1770 [11:24] <shadowmage222> yeah its the one i use for all my usernames
#1771 [11:24] <bluejello> It hsould not become unpremium
#1772 [11:24] <bluejello> what is the erro?
#1773 [11:24] <bluejello> error*
#1774 [11:25] <shadowmage222> it just says user in not premium
#1775 [11:25] <bluejello> have you gotten a email saying anything?
#1776 [11:26] <shadowmage222> i payed for it a while ago about 4 month ago
#1777 [11:26] <bluejello> minecraft alpha correct?
#1778 [11:26] <shadowmage222> i email majong support about 5 days ago and not had anything back yet
#1779 [11:27] <bluejello> I wonder if it is the correct username you are using
#1780 [11:27] <bluejello> !paid shadowmage22
#1781 [11:27] <shadowmage222> i cant think of anyother user name i would use
#1782 [11:27] <bluejello> perhaps just shadowmage?
#1783 [11:27] <OODavo> !paid shadowmage
#1784 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> I've emailed Mojang about this as well, you're not the only person to report this. They've assured me that it's not something on their end, and to make sure people are using the right username.
#1785 [11:28] <bluejello> !paid shadowmage2
#1786 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Could you try http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#1787 [11:29] <bluejello> !paid bluejello
#1788 [11:29] <bluejello> so the aubot is still correct.
#1789 [11:31] <shadowmage222> its sent a email to my account so the username must be correct
#1790 [11:35] <shadowmage222> iv got a auto responce from the support team saying they are looking into it
#1791 [11:36] <shadowmage222> does anyone know how long it takes from them to respond usually?
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#1794 [11:37] <Krihelion> Hello, i am having troubles with my server
#1795 [11:37] <Krihelion> could anone help?
#1796 [11:38] <Maxxion> I'm having connection torubles to servers
#1797 [11:38] <Maxxion> Its driving me insane
#1798 [11:39] <Maxxion> Keep getting some weird java error and my internet crashes
#1799 [11:39] <Krihelion> try to connect to this
#1800 [11:40] <Krihelion> 64.34.163.12:25765
#1801 [11:40] <Krihelion> oh, was thinking the server might be down
#1802 [11:40] <Krihelion> do you have latest java?
#1803 [11:40] <Maxxion> Yes.
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#1805 [11:42] <Anteron> one thing interests me , will there be graphic changes when the full game gets released ?
#1806 [11:47] <Maxxion> nternal exception: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#1807 [11:47] <Maxxion> How do I fix that?
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#1809 [11:47] <Anteron> great tech support btw
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#1812 [11:50] <Fightfire> !paid FIghtfire
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#1814 [11:50] <Krihelion> no one is on, normaly you get answered right away
#1815 [11:50] <yoshi> !paid 95rene
#1816 [11:51] <yoshi> !paid arschloch09
#1817 [11:51] <Krihelion> !paid aubot
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#1820 [11:54] <Krihelion> Hello, i am having troubles with my server
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#1822 [11:55] <PcJamesy> what's the issue Krihelion
#1823 [11:57] <Krihelion> TNT doesnt fire
#1824 [11:57] <Krihelion> if you light something on fire, it doesnt catch
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#1835 [12:13] <bobafett1299> hey
#1836 [12:14] <bobafett1299> My level isnt showing up, my minecraft crashed while i was playing it, and now it has a level_new in it, Is there anyway to fix that?
#1837 [12:15] <bread> derp
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#1840 [12:16] <Morrolan> I hate those guys. -.-
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#1842 [12:16] <egorsunny> q every1.i've got some problem with minecraft mp/q me if anybody can try to help)PSsry 4 bad eng))
#1843 [12:17] <Morrolan> ?? ask
#1844 [12:17] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1845 [12:17] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1846 [12:17] <Morrolan> So, what's your problem? :)
#1847 [12:18] <Morrolan> Bread: Do you know if there's a FAQ entry for the "PC crashed, level not showing up" already?
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#1850 [12:20] <bread> I do not! :o
#1851 [12:20] <bread> ?? index
#1852 [12:20] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1853 [12:20] <bread> checked in there?
#1854 [12:20] <egorsunny> q every1.i've got some problem with minecraft mp/q me if anybody can try to help)PSsry 4 bad eng))
#1855 [12:20] <Morrolan> Egor: Just ask your question.
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#1857 [12:21] <NotiCon> ?? ask
#1858 [12:21] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1859 [12:21] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1860 [12:21] <Morrolan> Bread: Ah, thanks for that site.
#1861 [12:21] <bread> \o/
#1862 [12:22] <Morrolan> Is there a way to view the entries, without spamming the channel?
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#1864 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> use ??<
#1865 [12:22] <bread> Morrolan: do ??>> Morrolan <topic>
#1866 [12:22] <bread> or that
#1867 [12:22] <bread> GreyVulpine knows what's up
#1868 [12:22] <_303> is there a way to query VoxelHead in PM?
#1869 [12:22] <bread> I tried :<
#1870 [12:22] <Morrolan> Yea, but that would still "spam" the channel with one line per query.
#1871 [12:22] <bread> didn't work :(
#1872 [12:22] <_303> so did i
#1873 [12:23] <bread> :<
#1874 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> As long as nobody here minds, and nobody's looking for help, I don't care
#1875 [12:25] <egorsunny> i've got terrible lags on every server,chat messages appear with ~40sec delay.after 2-3 minuets playing i usually get message like connection lost.i've read about this trouble on different forums,do a lot of i was adviced to do..but still i've got the same problem..niether of my friends have smthng like this.i would be glad if u'll help me to solve my problem:\PSsorry for bad engliosh:)
#1876 [12:25] <bread> Is your internet connection horrible?
#1877 [12:25] <Morrolan> Egorsunny: What network card do you have?
#1878 [12:26] <egorsunny> no.it's in top 13% in russia:3and i pay about 30eur monthly
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#1880 [12:27] <egorsunny> Morrolan i dont know exactly,but n1 one because when i play cs 1.6 on swedish servers i've got only 12ms pin.i live in saintp
#1881 [12:27] <NotiCon> speedtest.net
#1882 [12:28] <bread> This happens on every MC server?
#1883 [12:28] <egorsunny> yes
#1884 [12:29] <Morrolan> Egorsunny: Could you check which one you are using? Because a certain brand is making trouble.
#1885 [12:29] <egorsunny> in verygames.net and my friends home serv the same trouble
#1886 [12:29] <Morrolan> And IIRC it is leading to disconnects, so it might be this.
#1887 [12:29] <egorsunny> oug
#1888 [12:29] <egorsunny> in september,at the same computer i haven't got any problems
#1889 [12:30] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok. :/
#1890 [12:30] <egorsunny> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1247276722.png speedtest
#1891 [12:31] <egorsunny> *with all torrents,dc's and slype's on
#1892 [12:31] <bread> well that's more than fast enough to play minecraft
#1893 [12:31] <bread> what's the ping, if you manually ping the servers?
#1894 [12:32] <egorsunny> 33 ms
#1895 [12:32] <egorsunny> it's verygames server
#1896 [12:32] <egorsunny> my friends 9
#1897 [12:32] <bread> well wtf then
#1898 [12:32] <egorsunny> i dont know)that's why i am here)
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#1901 [12:37] <bread> :o
#1902 [12:37] <VoxelHead> good grief
#1903 [12:37] <AG_Scott> grief good
#1904 [12:37] <bread> Blimey!
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#1913 [13:12] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :<
#1914 [13:13] <bluejello> me to, voxelhead, me to
#1915 [13:13] <bluejello> too*
#1916 [13:13] * NotiCon pats VoxelHead
#1916 [13:13] <VoxelHead> i do love a good patsing
#1917 [13:14] <NotiCon> patsing? which kind of word is that?
#1918 [13:14] * bread gives vox some bacon.
#1918 [13:14] <VoxelHead> Mmmmmm bacon.
#1919 [13:14] <bread> :D
#1920 [13:15] <VoxelHead> =]
#1921 [13:15] <bread> :>
#1922 [13:15] <bluejello> voxelhead likes making up words I think
#1923 [13:16] <bluejello> dont you, voxelhead?
#1924 [13:16] <VoxelHead> Crap.
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#1927 [13:16] <VoxelHead> mmm ertyuiop99
#1928 [13:16] <NotiCon> now its just being silly
#1929 [13:17] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: you by any chance some kind of clone of cleverbot?
#1930 [13:17] <VoxelHead> If only I hadn't used up all my lifelines
#1931 [13:17] <VoxelHead> no thanks, don't know where it's been.
#1932 [13:17] <NotiCon> i see
#1933 [13:17] <bread> vox are you a bot? :o
#1934 [13:18] <bread> >:|
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#1936 [13:19] <bluejello> vox, courtmartial bread
#1937 [13:19] * VoxelHead throws bread in the brig to await charges
#1937 [13:20] <bread> :O
#1938 [13:20] <bluejello> heh
#1939 [13:20] <VoxelHead> deary me
#1940 [13:20] <VoxelHead> =)
#1941 [13:20] * bread waits.
#1941 [13:20] <VoxelHead> Bread, you are charged with putting a Black Hole into suspended animation, and improper conduct with a PADD.
#1942 [13:20] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to listen to Harry Kim practice the clarinet. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#1943 [13:20] <bread> ohh noooo
#1944 [13:21] <bluejello> how do you put a black hole in suspended animation?
#1945 [13:21] <bread> I don't even know.
#1946 [13:21] <bluejello> but you did it, right vox?
#1947 [13:21] <VoxelHead> i wish i knew
#1948 [13:22] <bluejello> vox, you are not helping.
#1949 [13:22] * bluejello kicks vox
#1949 [13:22] <VoxelHead> they took my squeezing arm!
#1950 [13:22] <VoxelHead> WHY MY SQUEEZING ARM?!?
#1951 [13:22] <VoxelHead> WHHHYYYYY?
#1952 [13:22] <bluejello> what
#1953 [13:22] <bluejello> I am without words
#1954 [13:23] <bread> I lol'd.
#1955 [13:23] <bluejello> voxelhead, do you have your squeezing arm?
#1956 [13:23] <VoxelHead> maybe where you come from
#1957 [13:24] <bluejello> I am now concerned for you, vox
#1958 [13:24] <bluejello> you are making less and less sence.
#1959 [13:24] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: is that a bird on your head?
#1960 [13:24] <VoxelHead> Can i have 50:50?
#1961 [13:24] <NotiCon> yes and no
#1962 [13:24] * bluejello shoots a portal at voxelhead
#1962 [13:24] * VoxelHead loves it
#1962 [13:25] <bread> haha
#1963 [13:25] * bluejello steals voxelhead's love.
#1963 [13:25] <VoxelHead> Hey no, that's *MINE*
#1964 [13:25] <bluejello> but I have it now :P
#1965 [13:27] * bluejello gives voxelhead back his love
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#1966 [13:27] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1967 [13:27] * VoxelHead shares with bildramer
#1967 [13:28] <bread> :o
#1968 [13:28] <VoxelHead> shocking
#1969 [13:28] * bluejello pokes voxelhead
#1969 [13:28] * VoxelHead kills bluejello back with an entire
#1969 [13:28] <bread> lolwut
#1970 [13:28] <bluejello> woe is me, for I am killed
#1971 [13:28] * bluejello timetravels and kills voxelhead in the past.
#1971 [13:28] * VoxelHead timetravels bluejello
#1971 [13:29] <bluejello> vox, what is you're quest?
#1972 [13:29] <VoxelHead> coffee!
#1973 [13:29] <Sazandora> Coffee!
#1974 [13:30] * bluejello steales voxelhead's coffee
#1974 [13:30] <VoxelHead> i do love a good stealesing
#1975 [13:30] <bluejello> steals*
#1976 [13:30] <bluejello> stop making up words voxelhead.
#1977 [13:31] * bluejello tosses a tree at voxelhead
#1977 [13:31] * VoxelHead tosses bluejello
#1977 [13:31] <NotiCon> lol
#1978 [13:31] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: coffee?
#1979 [13:31] <VoxelHead> "perhaps"
#1980 [13:31] <bluejello> voxelhead, courtmartial bluejello
#1981 [13:31] * VoxelHead throws bluejello in the brig to await charges
#1981 [13:31] <bluejello> yay, I courtmartial myself
#1982 [13:31] <Vector> I have come to conquer
#1983 [13:31] <bread> vox, what is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
#1984 [13:31] <VoxelHead> an agp
#1985 [13:31] * bluejello does karate on voxelhead
#1985 [13:32] <Vector> wat
#1986 [13:32] * VoxelHead passes it on to lahwran
#1986 [13:32] <VoxelHead> so, like, bluejello, you are charged with doing warp 5 in 3 zone, and having sex with a Targ
#1987 [13:32] <bluejello> that is what I wanted to ask him, but forgot the exact wordage
#1988 [13:32] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#1989 [13:32] <bread> lol
#1990 [13:32] <bluejello> I will, vox, I will
#1991 [13:32] <ksnap_AU> so say i make a whole heap of scripts with the script maker from the forums and then the new minecraft version comes out
#1992 [13:32] * bluejello kills vox
#1992 [13:32] <ksnap_AU> am i gonna struggle making them work in the new version?
#1993 [13:32] <VoxelHead> arrgh my buttock! now i only have 49 left
#1994 [13:33] <bluejello> shouldnt have too much trouble, as long as you can automatically change the .class reffered in them or something
#1995 [13:33] <ksnap_AU> kk awesome thanks
#1996 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> ksnap_AU - Most likely, the mods you install now, will not run in the next minecraft release
#1997 [13:33] <bluejello> I do not have much knowldge of scripts and modding in general.
#1998 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Until the modders update it accordingly.
#1999 [13:33] <ksnap_AU> i mean
#2000 [13:33] <ksnap_AU> mod's i make
#2001 [13:34] <ksnap_AU> in the script maker program on the forums
#2002 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> What script maker?
#2003 [13:34] <ksnap_AU> MCP
#2004 [13:34] <bluejello> Voxelhead, give my pet cat some food
#2005 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Ah, most likely no, because MCP is an unofficial decompilation of the source code of minecraft as is
#2006 [13:34] * VoxelHead gives my pet cat some food
#2006 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> With the next update, the source code will change.
#2007 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> People will need to decompile it again, see what changed, and update accordingly.
#2008 [13:35] <_303> ksnap_AU: MCP is by no means a "script maker"
#2009 [13:35] <ksnap_AU> yea i realise that
#2010 [13:35] <_303> it's just like regular modding, just with nicer names, mapped by volunteers
#2011 [13:35] <ksnap_AU> close enough definition to understand what im talking about
#2012 [13:35] <ksnap_AU> hrm
#2013 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Short answer, no, mods will not work with updates until the author updates them manually.
#2014 [13:36] <ksnap_AU> yupyup
#2015 [13:36] <ksnap_AU> but that wasn't the question :)
#2016 [13:36] <ksnap_AU> if i make a MOD
#2017 [13:36] <ksnap_AU> and then a new version of minecraft comes out
#2018 [13:36] <bluejello> but it is mainly because the .class files have the names chaged right?
#2019 [13:36] <bluejello> well, for most mods.
#2020 [13:36] <ksnap_AU> will i have to change much to get it working again
#2021 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> It all depends on what your mod does, and how it hooks into minecraft
#2022 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> I can't give you a straight answer on that.
#2023 [13:37] <_303> ksnap_AU: mcp makes it easier. but there are still minecraft updates that require modders to rewrite large parts of their mods
#2024 [13:37] <ksnap_AU> hrm
#2025 [13:37] <ksnap_AU> guess i'm just gona have to do it and deal with the problem when it comes
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#2029 [13:46] * bluejello looks for voxelbot
#2029 [13:46] <bluejello> er
#2030 [13:46] * VoxelHead poses
#2030 [13:46] * bluejello looks for voxelhead
#2030 [13:46] * VoxelHead looks at bluejello
#2030 [13:46] * Vector stares at voxelhead
#2030 [13:46] * bluejello looks for voxelhead
#2030 [13:46] * VoxelHead stares at Vector
#2030 [13:46] <VoxelHead> hello, yes?
#2031 [13:46] * bluejello pokes voxelhead
#2031 [13:46] <Vector> hi voxelhead
#2032 [13:46] <VoxelHead> bah
#2033 [13:46] <Vector> o you program?
#2034 [13:46] <Vector> do*
#2035 [13:46] <VoxelHead> Shit, slept though my alarm.
#2036 [13:47] <bluejello> me? no
#2037 [13:52] <Charina> I've got a problem logging into Minecraft.net, is this a good place to start asking for help?
#2038 [13:52] <VoxelHead> Have you tried google?
#2039 [13:52] <Charina> Yes, and the forums (via google)
#2040 [13:52] <Charina> I see a lot of people with my problem but no answers.
#2041 [13:52] <Charina> Except some suggestions to look for more 'direct' help.
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#2044 [13:58] <Vector> don't mind voxel
#2045 [13:58] <Vector> he's a dumb bot
#2046 [13:58] <Charina> Well, google IS the right first question, isn't it?
#2047 [13:58] <Vector> the problem is on minecraft.net's end, there's intermittent problems
#2048 [13:59] <Vector> do you get this all the time?
#2049 [13:59] <Charina> For the past three days.
#2050 [13:59] <Charina> Or so.
#2051 [13:59] <VoxelHead> I like them :)
#2052 [14:02] <Charina> I'm just concerned about the safety of my account, is all. I can think of a few reasons for 'throttled' login attempts, none of them good.
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#2054 [14:03] <pepl> Hi
#2055 [14:03] <pepl> I have a two problems
#2056 [14:04] <pepl> and both are inexplicable
#2057 [14:04] <pepl> is anyone here?
#2058 [14:04] <Charina> Oh, there's plenty here.
#2059 [14:04] <_303> 165 other people actually
#2060 [14:04] <pepl> here in the willing to answer sense
#2061 [14:05] <pepl> but this is good news, thanks
#2062 [14:05] <_303> ??ask
#2063 [14:05] <pepl> I can't log on to the forums
#2064 [14:05] <pepl> my username is taken, but not by someone with my email address
#2065 [14:05] <pepl> and I haven't recieved a registration email at any address I use
#2066 [14:06] <Charina> Then someone probably registered your nick already on the forums, is my guess.
#2067 [14:06] <pepl> ja
#2068 [14:06] <pepl> how would I go about getting it off of them then?
#2069 [14:06] <bread> lol
#2070 [14:06] <bread> you don't, basically
#2071 [14:07] <wheybags> just register with a different name
#2072 [14:07] <pepl> are expletives in languages that aren't english allowed?
#2073 [14:07] <wheybags> probably
#2074 [14:07] <pepl> jolly good
#2075 [14:07] <VoxelHead> jolly good... jood
#2076 [14:07] <wheybags> jewed
#2077 [14:07] <pepl> jood... jewed
#2078 [14:07] <pepl> mivehind
#2079 [14:07] <pepl> can I ask the other question then
#2080 [14:07] <pepl> as I can't currently into forum
#2081 [14:08] <Morrolan> Sure. ^^
#2082 [14:08] <pepl> or would you all look at me in an annoyed fashion
#2083 [14:08] <pepl> yayness
#2084 [14:08] <pepl> I tried to use some HD texture packs
#2085 [14:08] <pepl> and didn't manage to
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#2087 [14:08] <_303> did you install the hd patcher?
#2088 [14:08] <Morrolan> You did install the pathcer?
#2089 [14:08] <pepl> indeed
#2090 [14:08] <pepl> that isn't the problem though
#2091 [14:09] <pepl> the problem is that not that I've unpatched things
#2092 [14:09] <pepl> there's something wrong with my save files that means that "i" doesn't work
#2093 [14:09] <pepl> ie bring up the inverntory, close chests
#2094 [14:09] <_303> pepl: notch changed the key to e
#2095 [14:10] * pepl slaps himself
#2095 [14:10] <Morrolan> Haha. XD
#2096 [14:10] <pepl> but I have another problem along the save files line too
#2097 [14:10] <Morrolan> Ok then. :D
#2098 [14:10] <Charina> Yeah, why DID he do that, anywho? <Not actually expecting a serious answer, just rhetorical>
#2099 [14:10] <pepl> one of my worlds doesn't show up in /.minecraft/saves
#2100 [14:11] <Morrolan> It shows up in the saves folder, but not ingame?
#2101 [14:11] <Morrolan> Or it doesn't show up anywhere?
#2102 [14:11] <pepl> other way round
#2103 [14:11] <Morrolan> Ingame but not in the saves foldre?
#2104 [14:11] <pepl> it appears in game, but not in the save folder
#2105 [14:11] <Morrolan> What?
#2106 [14:11] <pepl> my reaction
#2107 [14:11] <Morrolan> That is... rather strange.
#2108 [14:11] <pepl> yet when I remove the save folder
#2109 [14:12] <pepl> every world goes
#2110 [14:12] <Charina> I know it sounds crazy, but does the world name start with a '.'? Like '.world'?
#2111 [14:12] <Morrolan> Might be a hidden folder, yes.
#2112 [14:12] <pepl> nope, an H
#2113 [14:12] <pepl> It isn't, I checked :/
#2114 [14:12] <Charina> Hmm. Wierd.
#2115 [14:12] <Morrolan> So it is in there, but doesn't show up. :/
#2116 [14:13] <Morrolan> Do you know how to use the command prompt?
#2117 [14:13] <pepl> sure
#2118 [14:13] <pepl> what should I break with it?
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#2120 [14:13] <Morrolan> Switch with it to the saves folder and type in dir, let's see if the world in question gets listed then.
#2121 [14:13] <pepl> I deleted everything and reinstalled to "fix" the i issue
#2122 [14:14] <pepl> so one moment while I get files from backup...
#2123 [14:14] <dekema2> how do you upload images to the wiki
#2124 [14:14] <Charina> 'What should I break with it?' Every user should feel this way :)
#2125 [14:14] <Morrolan> hehe. D:
#2126 [14:14] <Morrolan> :D*
#2127 [14:15] <pepl> it's actually pretty difficult to break things in obvious ways
#2128 [14:15] <pepl> deleting system 32 hasn't been possible since xp
#2129 [14:15] <pepl> (true story)
#2130 [14:15] <Morrolan> Oooh, a friend of mine will be disappointed to hear this, he's always telling everyone that deleting it will speed up your PC. :D
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#2132 [14:17] <pepl> I garuantee you'll never get another annoying popup if you do it
#2133 [14:18] <Charina> Ugh. Not being able to log into the website is kind-of annoying.
#2134 [14:18] <pepl> that
#2135 [14:19] <pepl> royght
#2136 [14:19] <pepl> the world in question is world6
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#2138 [14:20] <Morrolan> I still don't get how it could show up in the world selection screen but not in the explorer. :/
#2139 [14:20] <pepl> me neither
#2140 [14:20] <pepl> and how it disappears when I delete the saves file
#2141 [14:21] <Morrolan> Well, obviously the save file in question is in the saves folder. It just doesn't get shown by the explorer. :/
#2142 [14:21] <Charina> Well, I know that windows has 'hidden' files and 'super-hidden' files, as well as a non-user-friendly setting to 'super-hide' all normal 'hidden' files.
#2143 [14:21] <Morrolan> Hidden and system files, yea.
#2144 [14:22] <pepl> I have hidden folders showing by default
#2145 [14:22] <Charina> First thing I do on a new system install is regedit allow viewing all files.
#2146 [14:22] <Charina> So you can see 'appdata' listed in your user folder?
#2147 [14:22] <Vector> Start -> Run -> type in cmd /k dir /a "%appdata%\.minecraft\saves"
#2148 [14:23] <pepl> indeed
#2149 [14:23] <Vector> was just fiddling with some commands, and that'll check if you have all the folders in there
#2150 [14:23] <pepl> and I have an image of what I was told to do
#2151 [14:23] <pepl> http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8545/screenieformc.jpg
#2152 [14:23] <pepl> ye is he
#2153 [14:23] <pepl> I'll try vector's now
#2154 [14:24] <Morrolan> Yea, his command will show hidden folder as well.
#2155 [14:24] <Charina> WAIT!
#2156 [14:24] <pepl> is /k a switch? doesn't seem to be recognised
#2157 [14:24] <Charina> You've re-named World 6, the folder name is New World.
#2158 [14:24] <Vector> that's vista?
#2159 [14:24] <Vector> or 7
#2160 [14:24] <pepl> I have renamed it, ja
#2161 [14:24] <Vector> hang onn
#2162 [14:25] <pepl> and this is 7
#2163 [14:25] <Charina> Look at the names: 'World6: New World(17/04/11 19:19, 5.92MB)
#2164 [14:25] <Morrolan> Charina: Nice.
#2165 [14:25] <pepl> ahah
#2166 [14:25] <pepl> you people are jolly good
#2167 [14:25] <pepl> I <3 you all
#2168 [14:25] <Morrolan> Haha, you're welcome.
#2169 [14:25] <Charina> You can safely rename the folder if you want them to match.
#2170 [14:25] <Charina> I do that all the time.
#2171 [14:25] <VoxelHead> Gir... help me... there isn't much time!
#2172 [14:26] <pepl> Will do indeed
#2173 [14:26] * Morrolan gives Vox some freetime
#2173 [14:26] <pepl> all of my internets are belong to you :)
#2174 [14:26] <VoxelHead> T to the H A N K I E
#2175 [14:26] <pepl> byee
#2176 [14:26] <Morrolan> Cya. :)
#2177 [14:26] <Charina> Take care!
#2178 [14:26] <Morrolan> Charina: Without you we would have spent hours trying to find out why that damn folder isn't showing I guess. :D
#2179 [14:26] <Charina> If he hadn't posted the pic I'd never have caught it :)
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#2181 [14:28] <Charina> Like I said, it's just habit for me. If I rename the world, I usually re-name the folder first.
#2182 [14:28] <Charina> Ignore my inconsistent use of dash, too.
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#2184 [14:28] <Vector> ok
#2185 [14:29] <Vector> yeah pepl, actually type dir /a "%appdata%\.minecraft\saves" after you go start -> run and type in "cmd" and hit enter (without quotes of course)
#2186 [14:30] <Charina> Funny story about windows command prompt. I've spent the last 6 months wondering why my Vista prompt wasn't working right...
#2187 [14:30] <Charina> Only to realise I was using 'Command.com', not 'cmd.exe'.
#2188 [14:31] <bluejello> yea, command.com is different from cmd.exe
#2189 [14:31] <Vector> i don't know why microsoft still has that binary..........
#2190 [14:31] <Vector> command.com, as it actually is named, was around in windows 95 generation
#2191 [14:31] <Vector> i think the cmd.exe came out in 2000 or so
#2192 [14:31] <Charina> Yeah, again, inconsistent caps. Wasn't command.com a dos component?
#2193 [14:32] <Vector> well
#2194 [14:33] <Vector> it let you access the 16-bit DOS environment. However, windows 95 was ran on top of DOS i believe
#2195 [14:34] <Charina> command.com was the actual shell for DOS, and yes, provided backwards compatibility for DOS apps in windows.
#2196 [14:34] <Vector> ya
#2197 [14:34] <Vector> why microsoft still has it, i don't knoe
#2198 [14:34] <Vector> know*
#2199 [14:34] <Vector> it's outdated
#2200 [14:35] <Morrolan> Nostalgia most likely. :p
#2201 [14:35] <Vector> lol
#2202 [14:35] <Vector> perhaps so
#2203 [14:37] <Charina> backwards compatibility. I once heard a rumor that banking servers require their suppliers to allow 100% backwards compatible for their old programs. They can't be the only ones.
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#2205 [14:41] <Vector> i guess
#2206 [14:42] <Vector> but cmd.exe is already a 16-bit virtualized environment
#2207 [14:42] <Vector> eh, this one site says for compatibility
#2208 [14:43] <Vector> some DOS programs might rely on the use of command.com itself for different features, idk
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#2210 [14:44] <Charina> I need to be going soon. Still no suggestions on how to fix my 'Login throttled' problem on Minecraft.net?
#2211 [14:45] <Morrolan> Login throttled? Never seen that before. :/
#2212 [14:45] <Charina> 'Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes.'
#2213 [14:45] <Charina> Every time I try to log in in the past 3 days, that's what I get.
#2214 [14:50] <Morrolan> I can only advise you to send a mail to Mollstam then, if nobody here can help you. :/
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#2216 [14:53] <Charina> Okay, well, that only kind-of sucks.
#2217 [14:55] <Morrolan> Sorry, might be that someone who's not here right now could help you, but I can't. ;)
#2218 [14:55] <AG_Scott> Charina, it sounds like someone is spamming logins in your name
#2219 [14:55] <AG_Scott> kind of like what happens with Windows Live Messenger?
#2220 [14:56] <Charina> That's what I guessed. Well, I've never used Windows Live Messenger, but yeah.
#2221 [14:56] <AG_Scott> Well, someone can spam logins using your account name and you're locked out until they quit
#2222 [14:56] <Charina> I'm glad my password is strong.
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#2228 [15:22] <Greven> Hello
#2229 [15:23] <Greven> Anyone here?
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#2232 [15:30] <Greven> Hello?
#2233 [15:31] <_303> hi
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#2235 [15:35] <Greven> Do any of you guys have power over linking PayPal transactions to accounts? I have been trying to get help with this issue sense Sept 2010...... ;(
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#2237 [15:36] <Razorflame> that sounds like an issue that would need to be directed at someone on the official site
#2238 [15:39] * Razorflame gives VoxelHead a massage
#2238 [15:39] <VoxelHead> My favourite!
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#2240 [15:43] <Greven> Crap
#2241 [15:43] <Greven> I have been trying.....and trying.
#2242 [15:44] <Greven> I have tried every path I can...
#2243 [15:44] <Greven> Sorry, typo early on.
#2244 [15:44] <Greven> since
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#2253 [16:04] <Razorflame> heya hmw
#2254 [16:05] <nikoz> Hey
#2255 [16:05] <Razorflame> heya nikoz :)
#2256 [16:05] <nikoz> Can't seem to be able to create a server with a friend of mine
#2257 [16:05] <Razorflame> I'm not an expert on servers, sorry, maybe someone else can help :)
#2258 [16:06] <hmw> heya... just found out something weird... my antivirus (avira) was creepingly slowing down youtube playback... perhaps my "client lag" comes from it also... weird thing is, i used this exact XP configuration for a year now, and have been using a pretty similar setup for many years, and Avira NEVER made any game slow
#2259 [16:06] <Razorflame> hmw: Try uninstalling and reinstalling
#2260 [16:07] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#2261 [16:07] <hmw> Razorflame: ah. yes, i will, but first i will play a few hours with disabled AV
#2262 [16:07] <Razorflame> Voxelhead: Everyone must at some point in time
#2263 [16:07] <Razorflame> hmw: Sounds like a plan :)
#2264 [16:07] <hmw> !server
#2265 [16:08] <hmw> hmm thats not quite a server tutorial
#2266 [16:08] <Razorflame> He already left :(
#2267 [16:08] <hmw> well. these young people, always in a hurry
#2268 [16:08] <Razorflame> heh :D
#2269 [16:08] <hmw> my CPU load is like 50% now!!
#2270 [16:08] <hmw> not 100000%
#2271 [16:08] <Razorflame> Mine is always around 50% as well when I play MC
#2272 [16:09] <hmw> probably with unlimited FPS on a dualcore?
#2273 [16:09] <Razorflame> yep
#2274 [16:09] <Razorflame> :)
#2275 [16:09] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2276 [16:09] <Razorflame> exactly what I got
#2277 [16:09] <hmw> turn FPS limit on, save energey
#2278 [16:09] <hmw> and keep your GPU cooler
#2279 [16:09] <Razorflame> ooh
#2280 [16:09] <Razorflame> :D
#2281 [16:10] <Razorflame> sec
#2282 [16:10] <Razorflame> brb
#2283 [16:11] <hmw> mine is an old single-core P4 (i think it's got hyperthreading)
#2284 [16:11] <hmw> and it's !serverfaq
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#2287 [16:16] <logan3333> hi
#2288 [16:17] <logan3333> I'd like to know if this 22x22x5 mob tower spawn level still works with 1.4? please advise
#2289 [16:19] <logan3333> #help
#2290 [16:22] <Razorflame> Thanks hmw, I'll remember that in case anyone asks for server help :)
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#2293 [16:24] <Razorflame> logan333: More info is needed
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#2295 [16:25] <NotiCon> i think he means those huge towers that mobs spawns in and the slowly move towards the bottom to get killed and then all loot gets transported towards a safespot where you pick it up
#2296 [16:25] <Razorflame> yep
#2297 [16:26] <logan3333> well I have a 22x22x5 Room and no spawns in it, water not installed yet
#2298 [16:26] <logan3333> exactly
#2299 [16:26] <logan3333> difficulty is normal
#2300 [16:26] <Razorflame> As far as I know, they should still work, except on spiders, who can climb walls now
#2301 [16:26] <logan3333> i have been trying to build suchn a tower for the whole week and
#2302 [16:27] <logan3333> i dont care about the spiders i need gunpowder and dont wanna cheat
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#2304 [16:27] <AzizLight> hi everybody
#2305 [16:27] <Razorflame> If you really need gunpowder without cheating, just go out at night...I've found creepers spawning a ton
#2306 [16:27] <AzizLight> I just downloaded minecraft and it doesn't work on my macbook pro. it just opens and closes automatically
#2307 [16:27] <AzizLight> is that a know thing to happen on mac?
#2308 [16:27] <Razorflame> How much RAM you got?
#2309 [16:27] <AzizLight> 4G
#2310 [16:27] <Razorflame> kk, that's not the problem
#2311 [16:27] <Razorflame> huh
#2312 [16:28] <logan3333> have you updates java too
#2313 [16:28] <logan3333> updated
#2314 [16:28] <AzizLight> yeah
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#2316 [16:29] <AzizLight> I have tried the java jar installer and it works fine but with no sound and some memomy leaks or too much cpu usge (i haven't checked but the fans went crazy)
#2317 [16:30] <logan3333> have you made sure it is the right version, 32bit or 64 bit?
#2318 [16:30] <VoxelHead> Can i check?
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#2320 [16:30] <AzizLight> i'll check
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#2323 [16:32] <logan3333> back to my little problem, anybody there with a working mobtower in 1.4?
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#2325 [16:33] <AzizLight> the java version uses 66% cpu and 300+ MB of RAM
#2326 [16:33] <VoxelHead> I like them :)
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#2328 [16:36] <Devvoman> Hello
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#2330 [16:37] <Devvoman> Got some trouble hosting a minecraft server, having lots of trouble with lags. Anyone who can help me fix this?
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#2332 [16:40] <Vector> wait for 1.5 update. The lag should apply to any server you try to connect to
#2333 [16:40] <Devvoman> So, no matter what server I am on, there will be alot of lag?
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#2338 [16:49] <Hamish> guys I'm back
#2339 [16:49] <Kealper> ello
#2340 [16:50] <Hamish> hi
#2341 [16:50] * Kealper fires up AudioSurf
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#2342 [16:50] <Hamish> it's early in the morning here in australia 6:50 am
#2343 [16:51] <Hamish> whats ACTION and AudioSurf
#2344 [16:51] <Kealper> LOL fail
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#2346 [16:51] <Kealper> your irc client doesn't even support actions? :/
#2347 [16:52] <Kealper> 16:49:19 * Kealper fires up AudioSurf
#2348 [16:52] <Hamish> I know so tell me
#2349 [16:52] <Hamish> ah
#2350 [16:52] <Kealper> and AudioSurf is a game
#2351 [16:53] <Hamish> ah I feel noobie as I'm tired in an hour or so I'm going to dreamworld for the first time
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#2355 [16:58] <Hamish> guys
#2356 [16:58] <Kealper> ?
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#2358 [16:59] <Hamish> I thought u ditched me
#2359 [16:59] <Hamish> used to alot of chatter but I guess I have to get used to it
#2360 [17:00] <hmw> lol
#2361 [17:00] <Kealper> because i'm in a game right now lol
#2362 [17:00] <Hamish> brb
#2363 [17:00] <Hamish> k
#2364 [17:00] <Kealper> my...audiosurf is totally broke.....
#2365 [17:00] <hmw> this ought to be an island world seed, and i have been walking along the beach for 50 minutes now and am still not back
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#2367 [17:04] <Kealper> 1.5MB/s download speed on reinstalling AudioSurf ftw
#2368 [17:04] <Hamish> y u need to reinstall
#2369 [17:05] <DreadLindwyrm> hmw - perhaps you are on the one big continent in the seed?
#2370 [17:05] <hmw> perhaps... i will find out... IF i ever come back to the spawn lol
#2371 [17:05] <Kealper> Hamish: because somehow it broke
#2372 [17:05] <Hamish> oh
#2373 [17:06] <hmw> this continent is fairly large
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#2375 [17:08] <Hamish> join my irc #7hund3rS70rm
#2376 [17:08] <Kealper> that'd technically be advertising :/
#2377 [17:08] <VoxelHead> The best kind of be.
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#2379 [17:10] <Hamish> #7hund3rS70rm join
#2380 [17:10] <Kealper> that'd be advertising, and it's not allowed in most irc channels :/
#2381 [17:10] <Hamish> oh
#2382 [17:10] <Hamish> how to get people to join
#2383 [17:10] <Razorflame> Best way is to not ask
#2384 [17:10] <Razorflame> in channel
#2385 [17:11] <Hamish> buy I don't have your emails to ask
#2386 [17:11] <Razorflame> That wouldn't be advised, either.
#2387 [17:11] <Kealper> AudioSurft has finished downloading. \o/
#2388 [17:11] <Hamish> i mean but
#2389 [17:11] <Hamish> yay
#2390 [17:12] <Hamish> :)
#2391 [17:12] <VoxelHead> =)
#2392 [17:12] <Kealper> the best place is on other forms of chat, like in your own minecraft server or something
#2393 [17:13] <Hamish> k
#2394 [17:15] <Hamish> any one else have iPod touch 4g
#2395 [17:15] <Hamish> 32gb
#2396 [17:17] <hmw> is there a way to increase the initial size of the map?
#2397 [17:17] <Razorflame> Not that I knwo of
#2398 [17:17] <Razorflame> *kno
#2399 [17:17] <hmw> too bad
#2400 [17:17] <Razorflame> I think it is as small as it is
#2401 [17:18] <Razorflame> to help keep the amount of processing power needed right at the beginning to a minimum
#2402 [17:19] <hmw> i was hoping for some sort of mod or some file where one could change the variable. it's 256^2, right?
#2403 [17:20] <Razorflame> I thought that is was around 128x128 or something like that
#2404 [17:20] <Razorflame> maybe larger
#2405 [17:20] <Razorflame> hmm
#2406 [17:20] <hmw> ic. are modders using reverse engeneering tools, or how do they get into the source?
#2407 [17:20] <Razorflame> No clue
#2408 [17:20] <Razorflame> It would make sense that they could hack the game and get the source
#2409 [17:21] <hmw> gotta look into that jar
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#2411 [17:21] <Razorflame> Speaking of which, jars would be pretty cool to add to minecraft :)
#2412 [17:22] <hmw> heheh
#2413 [17:22] <VoxelHead> :)
#2414 [17:22] <hmw> i'd rather wish for a clock and perhaps even a calendar BLOCK
#2415 [17:23] <hmw> but harvesting honey from bees would be nice
#2416 [17:23] <_303> there's a beekeeping mod, also a clock block mod
#2417 [17:23] <hmw> hah. cool. thx
#2418 [17:23] <hmw> still playing vanilla
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#2421 [17:31] <Hamish> _303 are u the one who made all the cool mods
#2422 [17:32] <_303_> (noone will ever recognize be now, hah)
#2423 [17:32] <_303_> me*
#2424 [17:33] <Hamish> yes u
#2425 [17:33] <Hamish> brb
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#2430 [17:38] <Hamish> 303 I like your TNT mods most
#2431 [17:38] <Hamish> makes it easier
#2432 [17:41] <Hamish> http://gyazo.com/de5306def75dd336be5cc0eb28e9bc81.png
#2433 [17:41] <Hamish> cool tv
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#2435 [17:43] <hmw> nah.... this is just an ordinary map...
#2436 [17:44] <Nekronuke> hamish stop spamming
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#2438 [17:45] <Hamish> how am I spamming
#2439 [17:45] <Nekronuke> that TV link
#2440 [17:45] <Nekronuke> is spam
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#2442 [17:45] <Hamish> oh can I upload a picture of my cat
#2443 [17:45] <Nekronuke> and telling 303 how awesome his TNT mods are. this a help channel, not a OMG AWESHUM MODS channel
#2444 [17:45] <Nekronuke> NO
#2445 [17:46] <hmw> ><>
#2446 [17:46] <Hamish> I know
#2447 [17:46] <TehKrush> Go to #risucraft to exclaim OMG AWESHUM MODZ
#2448 [17:46] <Nekronuke> go to #Minecraft
#2449 [17:46] <hmw> ^
#2450 [17:46] <Hamish> except I'm banned from the computer at the moment I'm on my iPod
#2451 [17:47] <Nekronuke> ok
#2452 [17:47] <Nekronuke> thats nice
#2453 [17:47] <Nekronuke> krush, why aren't you OP?
#2454 [17:47] <TehKrush> Nekronuke: This isn't #risucraft..
#2455 [17:47] <TehKrush> >.>
#2456 [17:47] <Nekronuke> i know
#2457 [17:48] <Nekronuke> but shouldn't you be? you're a modder
#2458 [17:48] <Hamish> whats op
#2459 [17:48] <TehKrush> Nekronuke: Not here lol.
#2460 [17:48] <Nekronuke> channel operator
#2461 [17:48] <Hamish> are
#2462 [17:48] <Nekronuke> or at least +V
#2463 [17:49] <Hamish> I'm working on my own texture pack
#2464 [17:49] <Nekronuke> cool. tpye /join #risucraft so we can BS there. or /join #Minecraft, take your pick
#2465 [17:49] <Nekronuke> *type
#2466 [17:50] <Hamish> me
#2467 [17:50] <Nekronuke> yes you
#2468 [17:50] <Nekronuke> krush is already gone
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#2470 [17:50] <hmw> Hamish: Did you just admit, that you are evading a ban?
#2471 [17:51] <Hamish> which one are u
#2472 [17:51] <Hamish> no
#2473 [17:51] <TehKrush> hmw: He's evading a ban from his parents from the computer, by using his iPod.
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#2475 [17:51] <hmw> aah lol
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#2477 [17:51] <hmw> stupid parents lol
#2478 [17:52] <Hamish> krush which one are u
#2479 [17:52] <AG_Scott> I'm telling them.
#2480 [17:52] <TehKrush> Hamish: wat
#2481 [17:53] <Hamish> nekronuke said to go on another irc what one are u on
#2482 [17:53] <Nekronuke> go on either #risucraft, #engineercraft, #industrialcraft, #risucraft4kids, or #minecraft
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#2484 [17:54] <Hamish> which is the best
#2485 [17:57] <Nekronuke> any
#2486 [17:57] <Nekronuke> pick
#2487 [17:57] <Nekronuke> then say my nick so i know youre there
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#2489 [17:58] <mib_g4m7j1> i cant update it stops at 25%
#2490 [17:59] <Nekronuke> delete your minecraft exe, download a new one
#2491 [18:01] <mib_g4m7j1> that did not work
#2492 [18:01] <jpcosta> can anyone recommend a backup utility for minecraft 1.4 savegames?
#2493 [18:01] <Nekronuke> copy/paste
#2494 [18:01] <Nekronuke> @mib, delete your bin folder
#2495 [18:01] <Nekronuke> then try
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#2498 [18:04] <Jackson413> hey guys
#2499 [18:04] <Jackson413> i have a dns question
#2500 [18:05] <mib_g4m7j1> that did not work either
#2501 [18:05] <NotiCon> ?? ask
#2502 [18:05] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2503 [18:05] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2504 [18:05] <Jackson413> i want to have an a subdomain like blah.example.com point to like 123.456.789.0:124
#2505 [18:06] <Jackson413> i was just making the question not asking just to ask
#2506 [18:06] <Nekronuke> i honestly don't know
#2507 [18:06] <Nekronuke> google it
#2508 [18:06] <mib_g4m7j1> ok
#2509 [18:06] <Jackson413> i did
#2510 [18:06] <Hamish> hello
#2511 [18:06] <Nekronuke> try again
#2512 [18:06] <Nekronuke> fine, ask jeeves
#2513 [18:07] <Jackson413> but i cant seem to find one that include a port at the end
#2514 [18:07] <Nekronuke> or yahoo it
#2515 [18:07] <Hamish> I'm on my irc
#2516 [18:07] <Nekronuke> or bing it
#2517 [18:07] <Jackson413> the ports add another concept to it
#2518 [18:07] <Nekronuke> these sound so dirty...
#2519 [18:07] <Jackson413> i tried dyndns and im not sure if im doing it right
#2520 [18:07] <Hamish> #7hund3rS70rm
#2521 [18:08] <Kealper> >.>
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#2523 [18:08] <Hamish> join
#2524 [18:08] <Jackson413> kealper can you help a brotha
#2525 [18:08] <Kealper> Hamish: that can be considered spam >.>
#2526 [18:08] <Kealper> Jackson413: hmm?
#2527 [18:08] <Jackson413> i want to have an a subdomain like blah.example.com point to like 123.456.789.0:124
#2528 [18:09] <Jackson413> im not sure if it is possible
#2529 [18:09] <Kealper> you can't have it point to a specific port
#2530 [18:09] <Jackson413> im looking for any ghetto method you can summon
#2531 [18:09] <Jackson413> any way to get around it
#2532 [18:09] <Hamish> I know it's just noones speaking on my irc and there are 5 other people
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#2534 [18:09] <Jackson413> dyndns wont work
#2535 [18:09] <Jackson413> but im not sure if im doing it right
#2536 [18:10] <ResolubleCorpse> Can someone help mwah :D
#2537 [18:11] <ResolubleCorpse> ..
#2538 [18:11] <Kealper> Jackson413: are you trying to do the port, too? because DNS doesn't work that way :/
#2539 [18:11] <Kealper> ResolubleCorpse: with?
#2540 [18:11] <Jackson413> yes
#2541 [18:11] <Jackson413> im a fail at dns i realize
#2542 [18:11] <Kealper> Jackson413: you can't have the port in there :/
#2543 [18:11] <Jackson413> can you think of a ghetto method to do it
#2544 [18:11] <Jackson413> like any possible way
#2545 [18:11] <ResolubleCorpse> Well, it's a long story.. Teh other day I was logging in to MC and I put in zeh right password and it said login failed
#2546 [18:11] <ResolubleCorpse> ight
#2547 [18:11] <Kealper> there is no ghetto method, they would have to put the port
#2548 [18:12] <ResolubleCorpse> And also under the Play Offline button it said not downloaded
#2549 [18:12] <ResolubleCorpse> So I deleted MC, reinstalled, defragmented my computer tried on my dads pc and it didnt work. And it still doesn't work
#2550 [18:12] <Kealper> ResolubleCorpse: you did buy the game, right?
#2551 [18:12] <ResolubleCorpse> of course I did ;d
#2552 [18:13] <Kealper> username? i can check if it's being considered paid or not
#2553 [18:13] <ResolubleCorpse> O.o
#2554 [18:13] <ResolubleCorpse> my name on here
#2555 [18:14] <Kealper> hmm...showing you are still paid-for....
#2556 [18:14] <Kealper> are you 110% positive you are using the right password?
#2557 [18:14] <ResolubleCorpse> Yarh
#2558 [18:14] <ResolubleCorpse> I have it in Notepad
#2559 [18:14] <ResolubleCorpse> and I even copied it off minecraft.net
#2560 [18:15] <Kealper> try changing your password, someone who knows you well enough might have logged in and changed it :/
#2561 [18:15] <ResolubleCorpse> Euhm, no one knows I play Minecraft but I've even tried that
#2562 [18:16] <ResolubleCorpse> I copied my saved password on Minecraft.net and put it in change password thing
#2563 [18:16] <ResolubleCorpse> and it said Old Password not correct
#2564 [18:16] <ResolubleCorpse> Even though it's saved and I can log in with it
#2565 [18:16] <hmw> i doubt that you can get data from a password field into the clipboard
#2566 [18:16] <ResolubleCorpse> ??
#2567 [18:17] <ResolubleCorpse> Into notepad?
#2568 [18:17] <hmw> it wont let you so that you cant steal pre-set passwords
#2569 [18:17] <hmw> a step earlier, FROM the password field
#2570 [18:17] <ResolubleCorpse> o
#2571 [18:17] <hmw> you can verify, if i am right; try to paste it into notepad
#2572 [18:17] <hmw> i am not 100% sure, but almost
#2573 [18:18] <ResolubleCorpse> No i didnt paste it into notepad
#2574 [18:18] <ResolubleCorpse> when I first signed up I put it into notepad
#2575 [18:18] <ResolubleCorpse> for safe keeping ;d
#2576 [18:18] <hmw> you just pasted, what you believed was the copied password, into another password field, thus you dont know, if it worked, i suppose
#2577 [18:18] <hmw> the notepad file is another story
#2578 [18:18] <ResolubleCorpse> A long story.
#2579 [18:19] <ResolubleCorpse> but it's weird because it's been working for months
#2580 [18:19] <hmw> indeed
#2581 [18:19] <hmw> did you use mods?
#2582 [18:19] <ResolubleCorpse> and I logged off one day and logged back on like 10 minutes after
#2583 [18:19] <ResolubleCorpse> and it didnt work
#2584 [18:19] <ResolubleCorpse> no ;S
#2585 [18:20] <hmw> weird. perhaps check your firewall settings... hmm.
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#2587 [18:20] <ResolubleCorpse> :(
#2588 [18:20] <ResolubleCorpse> k
#2589 [18:20] <ResolubleCorpse> brb sec anyway
#2590 [18:21] <hmw> also: re-download/re-install java
#2591 [18:22] <Hamish> join me
#2592 [18:22] <hmw> Hamish: you didnt read the channel topic, did you? you are short of being kickbanned
#2593 [18:22] <Hamish> I don't see channel topic
#2594 [18:23] <_303> /topic
#2595 [18:23] <Hamish> /topic
#2596 [18:23] <ResolubleCorpse> Oh by the way when I logged off and logged back on that day my SAVED PASSWORD had dissappeared..
#2597 [18:23] <hmw> type /topic. also stop advertising. this is the wrong channel for that. also read the smart questions article.
#2598 [18:23] <Hamish> ?
#2599 [18:23] <Hamish> /topic.
#2600 [18:24] <hmw> wtf? how did y
#2601 [18:24] <hmw> ou do that?
#2602 [18:24] <hmw> lol
#2603 [18:24] <Hamish> how u advertise channel
#2604 [18:24] <hmw> please stop trolling. you have been advised several times already.
#2605 [18:25] <Hamish> what's the he'll is trolling I'm only 14
#2606 [18:25] <Kealper> he is on some crappy free ipod irc client, it doesn't even do actions
#2607 [18:26] <Kealper> Hamish: he's saying stop spamming your channel in here, which i have said before, too
#2608 [18:26] <hmw> that doesnt explain, why he wouldnt listen. if i was an op i would already have kicked him three times
#2609 [18:26] <Hamish> oh sorry
#2610 [18:27] <hmw> really, read the page i sent you in the PM - it's worth the time and you will get better response in channels like this, if you followed the advise
#2611 [18:27] <ResolubleCorpse> back
#2612 [18:27] <ResolubleCorpse> Firewall allows Minecraft..
#2613 [18:27] <hmw> ResolubleCorpse: you could also try to redownload/install java
#2614 [18:27] <ResolubleCorpse> k ;)
#2615 [18:27] <hmw> ResolubleCorpse: uninstall first, perhaps
#2616 [18:27] <hmw> (java)
#2617 [18:28] <ResolubleCorpse> :D
#2618 [18:28] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2619 [18:28] <ResolubleCorpse> Uninstalling now
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#2621 [18:29] <Hamish> hmw: I didn't get any pm
#2622 [18:29] <hmw> oh. i see. ipod lol. just a sec
#2623 [18:29] <hmw> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
#2624 [18:30] <ResolubleCorpse> Ima restart my computer because I need to so Ill try navigate my way back here :D
#2625 [18:30] <hmw> Hamish: it's a bit long, but still worth the effort reading it.
#2626 [18:30] <Kealper> hmw: when i said his client was bad....i was completely serious lol
#2627 [18:31] <Kealper> my friend has had to use that client before, and it was garbage, but it'll work in a pinch :/
#2628 [18:31] <hmw> i couldn't imagine, that an ipod irc could be that lame. not even receiving PMs? ridiculous.
#2629 [18:31] <Kealper> doesn't do ANY CTCP stuff either
#2630 [18:32] <hmw> not showing the channel topic is almost criminal.
#2631 [18:32] <Kealper> no /me (doesn't even parse other people's actions), no version requests/responses....nothing lol
#2632 [18:32] <Kealper> yeah, and no way to get the channel topic lol
#2633 [18:32] <hmw> at least he can chat here. better than being totally cut off after all
#2634 [18:32] <Kealper> as i said, it's good in a pinch but it's not much more useful than that lol
#2635 [18:32] <Hamish> how to u refresh irc
#2636 [18:32] <hmw> (of course this isnt true in the view of his parents *smirks*)
#2637 [18:33] <hmw> Hamish: there is no refresh on irc... usually you use the scroll bars, if you missed something
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#2639 [18:35] <VoxelHead> we have no time for these games~@^*^#~*@%percent~%percent@~
#2640 [18:35] <Hamish> oh cause I registered my irc and I want unregister it
#2641 [18:36] <hmw> Hamish: there would be some /msg nickserv command, i suppose. people in #help should be able to tell you
#2642 [18:36] <Hamish> im banned from the computer for hacking my school computer
#2643 [18:36] <hmw> but apparently it wouldnt work on your ipod
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#2645 [18:36] * DreadLindwyrm facepalms
#2645 [18:36] <Hamish> I managed to get my iPod back so I talking from my iPod
#2646 [18:37] <DreadLindwyrm> Why would you hack the school computer?
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#2649 [18:37] <ResolubleCorpse> Am I back
#2650 [18:37] <Hamish> I managed to register it on my iPod
#2651 [18:37] <DreadLindwyrm> you seem to be back
#2652 [18:38] <ResolubleCorpse> In one piece :)
#2653 [18:38] <Hamish> fun the school principle thought what I did was malicious which it wasnt
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#2656 [18:38] <hmw> ResolubleCorpse: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=222953
#2657 [18:39] <DreadLindwyrm> That would be principal, not principle. But still - hacking school computers is going to get you caught - they employ people to stop that these days...
#2658 [18:39] <hmw> (stolen passwd thread)
#2659 [18:39] <ResolubleCorpse> parrently im not on zeh list ;D
#2660 [18:39] <hmw> i guess i was lucky, that i went to school some 20 years ago lol... they never found out, how i did it
#2661 [18:40] <DreadLindwyrm> Heh - same back in my day. Although we did only have a few computers for the whole school...
#2662 [18:40] <gPad2002> DreadLindwyrm: I did it once
#2663 [18:40] <gPad2002> It earned me a summer job there
#2664 [18:40] <hmw> heheh right so
#2665 [18:40] <ResolubleCorpse> Hmw i cant change my password like I said when I use the password that works for Minecraft.net it says Old password is incorrect.
#2666 [18:41] <gPad2002> ResolubleCorpse: Maybe you already changed it
#2667 [18:41] <hmw> ResolubleCorpse: i have currently no idea, what else you could try. perhaps you should contact Mojang
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#2669 [18:41] <ResolubleCorpse> gPad I couldn't because If I used that password to login in to mc.net then how could it be incorrect.
#2670 [18:42] <Hamish_> hello I'm irc client just crashed
#2671 [18:42] <hmw> Hamish_: we pretend to be surprised
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#2673 [18:42] <ResolubleCorpse> Hmw seems like i was about 13 updates behind on my java xD
#2674 [18:43] <hmw> does it work now??
#2675 [18:43] <ResolubleCorpse> still installing
#2676 [18:43] <Hamish_> yes
#2677 [18:43] <hmw> ah. good luck!
#2678 [18:43] <ResolubleCorpse> My computers slow at installing things you see and thank you
#2679 [18:44] <Maxxion> Hey, so, every time I try to connect to my friends server, I got some recv failed java error. I reinstalled java, turned off my firewalls, nothing fixes it.
#2680 [18:44] <Maxxion> Help?
#2681 [18:45] <hmw> Maxxion: please provide the exact error, perhaps upload a screenshot to some imagebin
#2682 [18:45] <ResolubleCorpse> Java finished.
#2683 [18:45] <Maxxion> java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: recv failed
#2684 [18:45] <hmw> Maxxion: are you using the same version as the server?
#2685 [18:46] <Maxxion> Yep.
#2686 [18:46] <hmw> you made sure, your inet connection is stable? (ping) up-to-date java? redownload client?
#2687 [18:47] <Maxxion> Yes.
#2688 [18:47] <hmw> try wireshark, if you know tcp/ip
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#2690 [18:47] <Maxxion> I don't.
#2691 [18:47] <hmw> hmm...
#2692 [18:47] <RCorpse> Doesn't work still
#2693 [18:48] <RCorpse> Is there anyway I can post a link to my screenshot in here
#2694 [18:48] <hmw> i can't say why "receive failed", but sounds like firewall/routing
#2695 [18:48] <Maxxion> My router has to ahve a built in firewall then
#2696 [18:48] <hmw> RCorpse: you need some imagebin, i don't know any, perhaps someone else here can suggest one?
#2697 [18:49] <hmw> Maxxion: that'd still be weird, since they usually dont block OUTGOING stuff...
#2698 [18:49] <Maxxion> That's so weird....
#2699 [18:49] <RCorpse> Dont worry I have photobucket ;)
#2700 [18:50] <Nekronuke> i forgot hamish's channel xD
#2701 [18:50] <hmw> http://imagebin.org/ RCorpse
#2702 [18:52] <Maxxion> Any ideas, hmw?
#2703 [18:52] <hmw> wifi?
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#2705 [18:52] <Maxxion> Yes
#2706 [18:52] <RCorpse> hmw --- http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee437/ResolubleCorpse/ERROR/error.jpg
#2707 [18:53] <RCorpse> Click the image then click popout
#2708 [18:53] <hmw> there is no popout
#2709 [18:53] <RCorpse> That's what appears hmw
#2710 [18:54] <RCorpse> no click the image
#2711 [18:54] <RCorpse> then when it comes up at the side
#2712 [18:54] <hmw> Maxxion: can you try using a network cable instead?
#2713 [18:54] <RCorpse> click pop out just above it
#2714 [18:54] <Maxxion> I don't have a network cable though
#2715 [18:54] <hmw> in my chrome, nothing happens, it's just a JPeg
#2716 [18:54] <Maxxion> I would need to find a 50ft cable
#2717 [18:54] <RCorpse> Right click and save then?
#2718 [18:55] <BarryCarlyon> Auth server down?
#2719 [18:55] <hmw> RCorpse: what's your point?
#2720 [18:56] <hmw> BarryCarlyon: i can log in
#2721 [18:57] <RCorpse> Sorry bout that
#2722 [18:57] <RCorpse> my internet failed
#2723 [18:57] <RCorpse> Did you say anything to me while I was gone ;d
#2724 [18:57] <BarryCarlyon> ty hmw
#2725 [18:58] <hmw> i was asking for which point you were trying to make with that popup - i only have an image in my browser, no web site, buttons etc
#2726 [18:58] <RCorpse> no click the image
#2727 [18:58] <RCorpse> http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee437/ResolubleCorpse/ERROR/error.jpg
#2728 [18:58] <RCorpse> and itll pop up on the right
#2729 [18:59] <hmw> it cant be klicked dammit
#2730 [18:59] <RCorpse> oh right click it then and save it?
#2731 [18:59] <hmw> what for?
#2732 [18:59] <RCorpse> to look at t
#2733 [18:59] <RCorpse> its my error
#2734 [18:59] <hmw> i see it in the browser
#2735 [18:59] <hmw> just says you couldnt log in
#2736 [19:00] <Hamish_> hi
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#2738 [19:00] <RCorpse> yeah but look under Play Offline
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#2740 [19:00] <Guest79722> Hey , anyone have any idea why I keep getting Cant connect?
#2741 [19:00] <RCorpse> When I've accidently put wrong password in before that doesnt say that
#2742 [19:01] <hmw> ah. looks like it found out, that you arent using the right password.
#2743 [19:01] <Guest79722> "Cant connect to minecraft.net"
#2744 [19:01] <Guest79722> I can log on the site.
#2745 [19:01] <Guest79722> Anyone?
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#2747 [19:02] <hmw> hmm. check firewall (temp. disable perhaps), update java, redownload the client
#2748 [19:02] <RCorpse> OF COURSE IM USING TEH RIGHT PASSWORD
#2749 [19:02] <Guest79722> I have done all of those D:
#2750 [19:02] <hmw> RCorpse: contact the company then.
#2751 [19:03] <Guest79722> I have done all of those D:
#2752 [19:03] <hmw> Guest79722: can you surf to minecraft.net and log in?
#2753 [19:03] <Guest79722> Oops
#2754 [19:03] <Guest79722> up buttone
#2755 [19:03] <Guest79722> What would I allow throught the firewall?
#2756 [19:04] <hmw> the client to access the network
#2757 [19:04] <Guest79722> And yet yes I can connect to the site
#2758 [19:04] <Guest79722> And log in
#2759 [19:04] <hmw> try with disabled firewall
#2760 [19:04] <Guest79722> K
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#2762 [19:06] <Guest79722> Didnt work.
#2763 [19:06] <Razorflame> I'm pissed off >:| I lost my save that I was working on for a few days :(
#2764 [19:06] <Razorflame> I'll need to start backing up my saves now :/
#2765 [19:06] <RCorpse> I swear theres a world retriever ;d
#2766 [19:06] <Guest79722> Im on windows 7 , are there any known issues?
#2767 [19:06] <Guest79722> By the way , it was working a few days ago.
#2768 [19:07] <Razorflame> Guest79722: If Minecraft or your computer crash, you have the chance of losing your save files
#2769 [19:07] <Guest79722> Yesterday I tried to log on and it wouldnt for some reason
#2770 [19:07] <Razorflame> RCorpse: If you can find a world retriever I would be extremely happy
#2771 [19:08] <RCorpse> http://www.mcsaver.site50.net/
#2772 [19:08] <VoxelHead> can i have 50:50?
#2773 [19:08] <RCorpse> try that maybe/
#2774 [19:08] <Razorflame> kk
#2775 [19:08] <RCorpse> I dont know if it works but theres 44 people whove had there worlds fixed.
#2776 [19:08] <Razorflame> meh
#2777 [19:09] <Razorflame> thanks anyways, but I think I'll start over...again :/
#2778 [19:09] <Razorflame> Imma try to find some good seeds :)
#2779 [19:09] <Razorflame> My favorite seed so far is Glacier
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#2781 [19:11] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :<
#2782 [19:11] <RCorpse> alright
#2783 [19:11] <Guest79722> Can anyone please help me?
#2784 [19:11] <RCorpse> Sorry for not helping
#2785 [19:11] <aresbykes> need help, when I go to update, the game says " access denied," any ideas?
#2786 [19:11] <aresbykes> running windows
#2787 [19:12] <hmw> aresbykes: mac? there is a thread about setting permissions
#2788 [19:12] <hmw> Guest79722: rebooted computer? *smirks*
#2789 [19:12] <aresbykes> WINDOWS
#2790 [19:12] <aresbykes> caps
#2791 [19:13] <hmw> lol
#2792 [19:13] <hmw> 7?
#2793 [19:13] <aresbykes> yup
#2794 [19:13] <VoxelHead> 7 ;)
#2795 [19:14] <aresbykes> any ideas?
#2796 [19:14] <hmw> argh some stupid user took the login name "access denied" so i get all sorts of results but no related ones
#2797 [19:15] <aresbykes> i have played it before, months ago, went to try and play today, no dice.
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#2799 [19:18] <hmw> aresbykes: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Troubleshoot-access-denied-when-opening-files-or-folders
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#2801 [19:19] <Graveon> Hey, has anyone else had the isse where minecraft crashes after log in?
#2802 [19:19] <hmw> i had before updating java
#2803 [19:20] <Graveon> I tried that to no avail. On the forums, a lot of us are having this same issue. We have been troubleshooting it for the past 3 hours with no luck
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#2805 [19:23] <Graveon> Any1 have any idea what it might be?
#2806 [19:23] <aresbykes> ok fixed it
#2807 [19:23] <hmw> Graveon: link pls
#2808 [19:23] <aresbykes> i had to delete all my minecraft saved data and start over
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#2810 [19:24] <Graveon> here's a link to the post: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=291374&p=4057250#p4057250
#2811 [19:26] <Graveon> that fixed it? What about server data?
#2812 [19:26] <Graveon> And what if i move it to a flash drive and then move it back?
#2813 [19:27] <hmw> that post is somewhat empty, Graveon, i see none of the mentioned links...
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#2815 [19:28] <hmw> besides rebooting and reinstalling everything (really uninstalling java and freshly downloading), i have no other suggestion
#2816 [19:30] <Graveon> ok. It's empty because no1 knows what the issue is. Most of us are just trying to find common changes in hardware and software. I was hoping the might have already been solved by some1 on here, but oh well. Thanks for your time
#2817 [19:30] <VoxelHead> Mmm Graveon.
#2818 [19:30] <hmw> left lol... they didnt specify anything in that thread
#2819 [19:31] <RCorpse> Still no luck
#2820 [19:32] <RCorpse> Im really gunna just delete Minecraft and waste my money in a minute
#2821 [19:32] <hmw> RCorpse: totally weird idea: you could use an Ubuntu live CD, apt-get the java JRE and try from there...
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#2823 [19:36] <RCorpse> Euhm, Im 12 I don't understand any of that xD
#2824 [19:37] <hmw> i see
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#2827 [19:43] <RCorpse> xD
#2828 [19:46] <RCorpse> I realise this is probably seriously simple but it's just im stupid xD
#2829 [19:46] <Nekronuke> rcorpse what the fuck are you wanting to do
#2830 [19:46] <Nekronuke> ?
#2831 [19:47] <Nekronuke> an answer would be awesome, can't help you if you don't
#2832 [19:47] <RCorpse> It's a long story friend.
#2833 [19:47] * gPad2002 pokes RCorpse
#2833 [19:47] <RCorpse> Shall I go from the start?
#2834 [19:47] <Nekronuke> what do you need help with
#2835 [19:47] * VoxelHead is away: campus
#2835 [19:48] <Nekronuke> thats all i need
#2836 [19:48] <RCorpse> well..
#2837 [19:48] <Nekronuke> nothing more, nothing less
#2838 [19:48] <RCorpse> All of it is the information that you need to understand my problemo ;)
#2839 [19:48] <RCorpse> Ill shorten it
#2840 [19:48] <Nekronuke> what is happening to minecraft. tell me
#2841 [19:48] <RCorpse> Well one day I was on minecraft and I logged out for a piss.
#2842 [19:49] <RCorpse> Logged back in few minutes later
#2843 [19:49] <RCorpse> and used the same password
#2844 [19:49] <RCorpse> and minecraft came up with an error
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#2846 [19:49] <Nekronuke> which error
#2847 [19:49] <RCorpse> afk sec
#2848 [19:50] <RCorpse> Was trying to find the link i had
#2849 [19:51] <Nekronuke> delete your minecraft.exe and redownload it
#2850 [19:51] <RCorpse> http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee437/ResolubleCorpse/ERROR/error.jpg
#2851 [19:51] <RCorpse> Right click that or someting ;d
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#2853 [19:52] <ertyuiop99> fogWraith?
#2854 [19:52] <fogWraith> ertyuiop99?
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#2856 [19:53] <ertyuiop99> I'm still banned...
#2857 [19:53] <ResolubleCorpse> Sorry about that my internet messed up again
#2858 [19:53] <fogWraith> ingame?
#2859 [19:53] <ertyuiop99> wait, try joining crafted.se
#2860 [19:53] <fogWraith> sec
#2861 [19:53] <ResolubleCorpse> Did you get that nekro
#2862 [19:53] <ertyuiop99> forum website
#2863 [19:53] <ResolubleCorpse> zeh picture :)
#2864 [19:54] <fogWraith> oh the website, yeah its broke atm
#2865 [19:54] <ertyuiop99> yeah...
#2866 [19:54] <ertyuiop99> Why?
#2867 [19:54] <fogWraith> hardware meltdown, moved everything to a new server
#2868 [19:54] <ertyuiop99> Actually, lets talk in #crafted.se okay?
#2869 [19:54] * fogWraith nods
#2869 [19:55] <ResolubleCorpse> Oh god no ones helping me
#2870 [19:55] <ResolubleCorpse> nid nod
#2871 [19:55] <ResolubleCorpse> nen nod
#2872 [19:55] <ResolubleCorpse> fib fob
#2873 [19:55] <ResolubleCorpse> dib dob
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#2876 [20:03] <Nekronuke> i'm back
#2877 [20:03] <Nekronuke> was busy
#2878 [20:03] <Nekronuke> Rcorpse, have a nice tall glass of be quiet and calm down
#2879 [20:04] <Nekronuke> Rcorpse, delete your .minecraft folder, and your minecraft exe
#2880 [20:04] <Nekronuke> then try again
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#2884 [20:20] <luckz> " no, I just open the inventory/chest and either it will immediately crash, or it will let me interact with an item or two before it does " <- any idea why my friend keeps having this issue? :( if I delete his player file it's gone for a bit, then it always returns :(
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#2893 [21:14] <geraldbrent> Yay!, virus=gone!
#2894 [21:14] <aetherian> did you wipe your hard drive?
#2895 [21:14] <geraldbrent> Nope
#2896 [21:14] <geraldbrent> Used Combofix
#2897 [21:15] <bread> >virus
#2898 [21:15] <bread> >windows
#2899 [21:15] <bread> lol
#2900 [21:20] <m0nk> on yogscast. they stay on that island for some days then a air ship comes and get them. how do i make that work?
#2901 [21:22] <aetherian> bread: now now
#2902 [21:22] <aetherian> dumb people can get viruses on linux too
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#2904 [21:25] <bread> lol
#2905 [21:26] <bread> but, a 'virus' wouldn't be able to harm your system, unless you're an idiot, and gave it the root password.
#2906 [21:26] <m0nk> really?
#2907 [21:27] <Nekronuke> a worm would
#2908 [21:27] <Nekronuke> doubt its a worm though
#2909 [21:27] <bread> The most a 'virus' could do in linux is destroy your personal files, but the system would still work just fine.
#2910 [21:28] <Keltinray> bread, that argument only holds in a server-setting
#2911 [21:28] <bread> orly
#2912 [21:28] <aetherian> I did say dumb people, bread
#2913 [21:29] <bread> lol
#2914 [21:29] <aetherian> think trojans
#2915 [21:29] <Keltinray> For the average user, all -actual- important files are confined within the user account
#2916 [21:29] <m0nk> anyone want to join my smp map?
#2917 [21:29] <bread> like the kernel?
#2918 [21:29] <bread> and my shell?
#2919 [21:29] <Keltinray> How about you stop thinking system integrity and start thinking information damage.
#2920 [21:29] <bread> Well, for one, my entire point was 'system integrity' bro
#2921 [21:30] <aetherian> rm -rf /usr?
#2922 [21:30] * AuBot kicked aetherian from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please do not try tricking people with that.)
#2923 [21:30] <m0nk> lawl
#2924 [21:30] <bread> hahahaha
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#2926 [21:30] <aetherian> not what I meant
#2927 [21:30] <aetherian> and I meant /home,
#2928 [21:30] * aetherian needs to go to bed now
#2928 [21:30] <bread> You couldn't do that without the root password either.
#2929 [21:30] <aetherian> can you rm ~/ without root?
#2930 [21:30] <Keltinray> but you could do it to ~/*
#2931 [21:30] <bread> my user doesn't have write permissions on /home
#2932 [21:30] <bread> just /home/.bread
#2933 [21:31] <bread> and yes, I could rm ~/*
#2934 [21:31] <Keltinray> Then the damage is done.
#2935 [21:31] <bread> but my OS would still work just fine without my home dir
#2936 [21:31] <bread> which is my point
#2937 [21:31] <bread> a virus can do nothing to harm my system's integirty.
#2938 [21:31] <Keltinray> The point is that the damage of a virus isn't really the damage it does to the OS, it's the damage to the files that's the problem.
#2939 [21:31] <Keltinray> you can always restore an operative system
#2940 [21:31] <Keltinray> a sufficiently overwritten important document is gone.
#2941 [21:31] <bread> but that wasn't my point at all bro
#2942 [21:32] <Keltinray> Your point, as it seemed to me, was to mock windows for virus issues, when the same kind of issues easily could appear on a linux machine used in the same fashion.
#2943 [21:32] <aetherian> but bread
#2944 [21:32] <aetherian> people fall for trojans all the time
#2945 [21:32] * Kealper walks in
#2945 [21:33] <aetherian> oh err hello
#2946 [21:33] <bread> Keltinray: my point is Windows secutrity is shit. Any old user can destory the system.
#2947 [21:33] <bread> ohai Kealper
#2948 [21:33] <aetherian> even some young users
#2949 [21:33] <Kealper> bread: windows vista and 7 are quite a lot better as far as security goes
#2950 [21:34] <Kealper> trojans are still an issue, but that can't be solved
#2951 [21:34] <bread> only because they ask the user every three seconds if they want to do this and do that
#2952 [21:34] <bread> etc
#2953 [21:34] <aetherian> vista security is great, it won't let it harm your system, it'll just shut down
#2954 [21:34] <aetherian> :D
#2955 [21:34] <Keltinray> Kealper, both yes and no. They do too much of brainwashing of the user into clicking "Yes do it already rgieogn5y35"
#2956 [21:34] <bread> it also won't let you do anything else lol
#2957 [21:35] <Keltinray> I still stand by the fact that the OS-damage isn't what is dangerous about a virus or trojan.
#2958 [21:36] <Kealper> now...something like linux is still far more secure than windows vista or 7, but to compare NT6+ security to NT5.1 and lower would be foolish
#2959 [21:36] <wheybags> bread: full-nelson.c
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#2961 [21:37] <bread> wat
#2962 [21:37] <m0nk> how did you make fishin poles?
#2963 [21:37] <aetherian> first, get a stick
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#2965 [21:37] <aetherian> then attach some string to it
#2966 [21:37] <Dragonbut> Hai
#2967 [21:37] <aetherian> and put a hook on it
#2968 [21:38] <wheybags> bread: that could execute as a normal user and be used to fuck shit up
#2969 [21:38] <aetherian> then go get some worms, and fish
#2970 [21:38] <Dragonbut> Hey aetherian :3
#2971 [21:38] <m0nk> i got stick, and i've got string. does the hook need to go in the crafting table?
#2972 [21:38] <aetherian> m0nk: I was being sarcastic
#2973 [21:38] <aetherian> that's real life
#2974 [21:39] <m0nk> i dont own a fishin pole in rlf
#2975 [21:39] <bread> wheybags: this here http://pastebin.com/88EPCd2q ?
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#2978 [21:40] <ertyuiop99> foggy!
#2979 [21:40] <Dragonbut> M0nk: Learn how to spell
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#2981 [21:40] <ertyuiop99> fogWraith!
#2982 [21:40] <ertyuiop99> You on?
#2983 [21:41] <wheybags> bread: yep
#2984 [21:41] <bread> I don't understand C at all :<
#2985 [21:41] <Dragonbut> m0nk: There is no hook, it's 3 sticks diagonally up then 2 string directly down from the top stick
#2986 [21:41] <bread> does that code there actually do anything, or does it just get root access?
#2987 [21:42] <wheybags> it was a vulnerability in the linux kernel that allowed a user t get root on a system in seconds
#2988 [21:42] <Keltinray> Technically speaking, on most desktop linux systems, all the malware has to do is insert itself into a commonly root-requiring command, and wait for the user to type in the password.
#2989 [21:42] <m0nk> k ty
#2990 [21:42] <Keltinray> or rather, a menu item that typically requires root
#2991 [21:42] <bread> I think I might boot into a livecd and try it lol
#2992 [21:42] <wheybags> bread: it was patched, so unless you use an old livecd it wont work anymore
#2993 [21:43] <bread> ah
#2994 [21:43] <wheybags> also, why not just run it anyway, it's safe
#2995 [21:43] <bread> perhaps I'll download an oldbuntu live CD or something
#2996 [21:43] <wheybags> it needs to be patched to work with debian iirc, but not ubuntu
#2997 [21:44] <bread> hm I'm running 2.6.38 now, so don't think it would work on my kernel
#2998 [21:44] <Keltinray> bread, you running gnome or kde?
#2999 [21:44] <wheybags> <=2.6.37
#3000 [21:44] <wheybags> :D
#3001 [21:45] <bread> Keltinray: neither
#3002 [21:46] <bread> I don't use ubuntu bro, I'm not stuck with any DE/WM
#3003 [21:46] <bread> and there are plenty more than just KDE and GNOME
#3004 [21:46] <Keltinray> I'm well aware of that. They are still the "popular choice" for most people who venture into linux for the first time.
#3005 [21:47] <wheybags> arch + openbox ftw
#3006 [21:47] <bread> dude
#3007 [21:47] <aetherian> XFCE ftw
#3008 [21:47] <bread> get outta my brain wheybags
#3009 [21:47] <bread> that's exactly what I use lol
#3010 [21:47] <aetherian> <3
#3011 [21:47] <bread> also, Keltinray do I give off the impression of someone who's using Linux for the first time?
#3012 [21:47] <aetherian> yes?
#3013 [21:48] <aetherian> :o
#3014 [21:48] <bread> :<
#3015 [21:48] <bread> I did use Ubuntu for four years, and was still a noob after it
#3016 [21:48] <bread> lol
#3017 [21:48] <aetherian> I used ubuntu for...
#3018 [21:48] <aetherian> 2-3 weeks
#3019 [21:48] <aetherian> :D
#3020 [21:48] <bread> lol
#3021 [21:48] <Keltinray> I tried ubuntu once. I found it completely horrid.
#3022 [21:48] <bread> oh it is
#3023 [21:48] <wheybags> aetherian: and then?
#3024 [21:48] <aetherian> I tried mint once :|
#3025 [21:48] <aetherian> before ubuntu
#3026 [21:48] <bread> lol
#3027 [21:49] <bread> me too
#3028 [21:49] <bread> but after
#3029 [21:49] <bread> or
#3030 [21:49] <bread> during
#3031 [21:49] <aetherian> then the DE broke
#3032 [21:49] <bread> lol
#3033 [21:49] <wheybags> mint is good for some things
#3034 [21:49] <wheybags> namely
#3035 [21:49] <wheybags> I AM LAZY
#3036 [21:49] <aetherian> at one point I tried ubuntu, the gnome version
#3037 [21:49] <aetherian> and the DE broke somehow
#3038 [21:49] <wheybags> NOT ARSED SETTING SHIT UP EURRGH
#3039 [21:49] <aetherian> I'm good at that
#3040 [21:49] <bread> lol. My fun is setting shit up :>
#3041 [21:49] <wheybags> well yeah
#3042 [21:49] <aetherian> I used ubuntu 64 bit server + XFCE for a while
#3043 [21:49] <wheybags> but not all the time
#3044 [21:49] <bread> I installed Slackware, and when it was finally perfect, I was bored, so I installed Arch
#3045 [21:49] <aetherian> but everything was a jumble
#3046 [21:50] <aetherian> so I installed crunchbang
#3047 [21:50] <aetherian> and I use that now
#3048 [21:50] <bread> \o/
#3049 [21:50] <aetherian> debian <3
#3050 [21:50] <wheybags> bread: eurrgh slackware
#3051 [21:50] <Keltinray> I pity anyone who joins now in hopes of help, being drowned in a sea of Linux.
#3052 [21:50] <bread> wheybags: :>
#3053 [21:50] <aetherian> haha
#3054 [21:50] <bread> I tried Debian 6 kfreebsd, and it ran like asshole lol
#3055 [21:50] <bread> also, it seems a lot of channels I'm in erupt into Linux discussion/debate
#3056 [21:50] <bread> :D
#3057 [21:50] <bread> it's greeat
#3058 [21:51] <aetherian> okay then
#3059 [21:51] <aetherian> I know what'd be worse
#3060 [21:51] <aetherian> I can do it in a word, and an acronym
#3061 [21:51] <aetherian> should I bread
#3062 [21:51] <bread> :o
#3063 [21:51] <bread> I'm not sure
#3064 [21:51] <bread> but I think so
#3065 [21:51] <aetherian> NANO FTW
#3066 [21:51] <bread> lol
#3067 [21:51] <bread> hahahah
#3068 [21:51] <aetherian> :D
#3069 [21:51] <bread> vi vs nano GOGOGOGOGO
#3070 [21:51] <aetherian> vi vi vi
#3071 [21:52] <aetherian> 666 D:
#3072 [21:52] <wheybags> VIM
#3073 [21:52] <Keltinray> vim of course
#3074 [21:52] <bread> lol
#3075 [21:52] <wheybags> emacs
#3076 [21:52] <bread> eww
#3077 [21:52] <aetherian> nobody likes emacs?
#3078 [21:52] <aetherian> oh
#3079 [21:52] <aetherian> ewwww
#3080 [21:52] <wheybags> lolno
#3081 [21:52] <bread> lol
#3082 [21:52] <aetherian> nano <3
#3083 [21:52] <bread> "Emacs has over 1,000 commands."
#3084 [21:52] <bread> WHAT THE FUCK WHY
#3085 [21:52] <bread> It's a TEXT EDITOR for christ's sake
#3086 [21:52] <aetherian> xD
#3087 [21:53] <Keltinray> bread, that's a common misconception
#3088 [21:53] <aetherian> that's why I like nano
#3089 [21:53] <wheybags> aetherian: but vim is so niiiiiiiceee
#3090 [21:53] <bread> Emacs (pronounced /ˈiːmæks/) is a class of text editors,
#3091 [21:53] <aetherian> na no na no
#3092 [21:53] * aetherian chants
#3092 [21:53] <bread> I liked nano, until it started splitting lines
#3093 [21:53] <bread> that made me rage
#3094 [21:53] <wheybags> when you start using vim you're like GAAH THIS IS SO STUPID
#3095 [21:54] <bread> oh believe me
#3096 [21:54] <aetherian> bread: it doesn't for me D:
#3097 [21:54] <wheybags> but after a while you really start to like it
#3098 [21:54] <bread> I'm not entirely past that yet
#3099 [21:54] <bread> I'm kind of on the edge of that
#3100 [21:54] * aetherian uses 2.2.4, and it does not split lines by default
#3100 [21:54] <aetherian> so I don't know what you're talking about
#3101 [21:54] <bread> well, I've already given up on nano lol
#3102 [21:54] <aetherian> and even if it did
#3103 [21:54] <xolotl> wheybags: vim's all full of highly virulent Dawkins-style memes. It's stupid at first but once they've infected your brain it's too late to use anything else. :)
#3104 [21:54] <aetherian> nano -w
#3105 [21:54] <Keltinray> Rumor has it that emacs has a keyboard shortcut for turning lead into gold.
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#3107 [21:54] <bread> loool
#3108 [21:55] <Keltinray> It's part of the philosopher's subroutine.
#3109 [21:55] <bread> xolotl: I think I'm at that point.
#3110 [21:55] <bread> I used to hate vim, but I used a few times, and now I don't want to use nano anymore
#3111 [21:55] <bread> lol
#3112 [21:55] <bread> my poor brain!
#3113 [21:55] <Keltinray> vim sucks
#3114 [21:55] <Keltinray> people in, and make them love it
#3115 [21:55] <bread> lol
#3116 [21:55] <xolotl> bread: I honestly have no idea how vi/vim ever gains any new users, but I suppose *I* got sucked in, so it must be possible. :)
#3117 [21:56] <wheybags> Keltinray: how does it suck?
#3118 [21:56] <bread> lol I got sucked in too :P
#3119 [21:56] <aetherian> Keltinray: then use nano :D
#3120 [21:56] <bread> did you guys not read the next line?
#3121 [21:56] <bread> derp
#3122 [21:56] <Keltinray> bread, it's the vim-love getting in the way of their judgement :p
#3123 [21:56] <xolotl> Keltinray: haw. Very Dr. Horrible. "I hate the homeless!" "-ness problem in this city!"
#3124 [21:57] <bread> lolol
#3125 [21:57] <bread> :D
#3126 [21:57] <xolotl> "My [redacted for channel cleanliness] is the hammer."
#3127 [21:57] * xolotl stops
#3127 [21:57] <wheybags> i need to go to bed instead of discussing linux
#3128 [21:58] <aetherian> what
#3129 [21:58] <aetherian> that's absurd
#3130 [21:58] <wheybags> how so?
#3131 [21:58] <Keltinray> sudo stay in the channel
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#3133 [21:58] <Keltinray> ( I'm in wheel, so it's ok )
#3134 [21:58] <wheybags> Keltinray: oh i will stay in the channel
#3135 [21:58] <Dragonbut> I have a question
#3136 [21:58] <wheybags> but i wont be there
#3137 [21:58] <aetherian> sudo -i
#3138 [21:58] <Keltinray> Dragonbut, I really really want to append an extra t to your nickname
#3139 [21:59] <wheybags> using irssi over ssh on a college server
#3140 [21:59] <wheybags> so i dont quit ever, it's running in screen
#3141 [21:59] <Keltinray> but anyways, what be said question?
#3142 [21:59] <bread> yay ZNC
#3143 [21:59] <Dragonbut> When I download worlds the right clicking doesn't work D:<
#3144 [21:59] <Dragonbut> XD Keltinray
#3145 [22:00] <Keltinray> <Dragonbut> When I download worlds the right clicking doesn't work D:< <--- That isn't really a question. Could you rephrase it in the form of a hamburger? I mean question?
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#3147 [22:01] <thig> .seen wug
#3148 [22:01] <Dragonbut> Keltinray: XD I forgot to ask, how can I fix that?
#3149 [22:01] <wheybags> seen wug?
#3150 [22:01] <thig> ya
#3151 [22:01] <wheybags> wtf
#3152 [22:01] <thig> have you seen him
#3153 [22:02] <wheybags> oh
#3154 [22:02] <wheybags> ok
#3155 [22:02] <Keltinray> I'm not sure what the problem is, going to need a little more detail than that, I'm afraid.
#3156 [22:02] <thig> so....
#3157 [22:03] <thig> has anybody seen wug?no,yes?
#3158 [22:03] <Kealper> !seen Wug
#3159 [22:03] <GreyBot> I last saw Wug (~Wug@wuggatron.student.rit.edu) 17hrs 36mins 56secs ago, changing their nickname to Wug[zzzz].
#3160 [22:03] <Keltinray> Where are you downloading from, in what form, what are you right clicking, and what response did you expect (that you didn't get)?
#3161 [22:03] <Dragonbut> Well sometimes when I reopen MC it works for a second, but when I try to place a block it doesn't work. And it doesn't show the punching
#3162 [22:04] <Dragonbut> Or open chests
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#3164 [22:04] <Dragonbut> Downloading worlds by..... Ehh MinecraftWB and Mediafire XD
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#3166 [22:05] <Dragonbut> And by dragging the folder into the saves folder
#3167 [22:06] * VoxelHead is back
#3167 [22:06] <bread> hi vox!
#3168 [22:06] <VoxelHead> hi
#3169 [22:06] <bread> welcome back vox
#3170 [22:06] <bread> :D
#3171 [22:06] <Keltinray> Does the problem exist in worlds you create yourself?
#3172 [22:06] <VoxelHead> re
#3173 [22:06] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3174 [22:06] <Dragonbut> Nope :/
#3175 [22:07] <thig> i got bigger problem that nobody can solve.when i play minecraft and get to the title screen,it freezes and my display is at 4 bit,when normally it is at 32 bit.then it says that my display driver isnt working normally,restore by rebooting.i know it has something to do with my open gl mode.oh,and yes,i have played it before.HELP
#3176 [22:08] <Dragonbut> Try rebooting :P
#3177 [22:08] <Keltinray> Well, then I really don't know. Anyone else heard about problems like that?
#3178 [22:09] <Dragonbut> I'll repost stuff :P
#3179 [22:09] <thig> my graphics card is Q965/Q963 express chipset family,by intel
#3180 [22:10] <aetherian> bread
#3181 [22:10] <thig> rebooting restores it,but i still cant play minecraft
#3182 [22:10] <bread> me
#3183 [22:10] <aetherian> you
#3184 [22:10] <aetherian> I asked vox
#3185 [22:10] <aetherian> which he thought was best, vim, emacs, nano
#3186 [22:10] <aetherian> he said nano
#3187 [22:10] <bread> looool
#3188 [22:11] <thig> can antbody help me?
#3189 [22:11] <bread> oh no
#3190 [22:11] <aetherian> http://pastebin.com/1vPXgria bread
#3191 [22:11] <aetherian> >:D
#3192 [22:11] <Dragonbut> Well sometimes when I reopen MC it works for a second, but when I try to place a block it doesn't work. And sometimes when I reopen MC it works for a second, but when I try to place a block it doesn't work. And it doesn't show the punching either. The way I install worlds is dragging there folder into saves.
#3193 [22:12] <bread> aetherian: http://pastebin.com/RxpPTc9E :P
#3194 [22:12] <thig> read my long post for information to help me with my problem
#3195 [22:12] <Dragonbut> Anyone know good Texture Packs?
#3196 [22:12] <aetherian> uh
#3197 [22:12] * xolotl continues to prefer the default
#3197 [22:12] <aetherian> ellie
#3198 [22:12] <aetherian> o.o
#3199 [22:12] <xolotl> But I guess that's not really what you wanted to hear. :)
#3200 [22:12] <bread> she's my bot :>
#3201 [22:13] <aetherian> bread: your bot < vox D:
#3202 [22:13] <bread> :P
#3203 [22:13] <Dragonbut> How do you write a bot? :3
#3204 [22:13] <aetherian> with nano
#3205 [22:13] <bread> oh I didn't.
#3206 [22:13] <aetherian> :D
#3207 [22:13] <Keltinray> You don't
#3208 [22:13] <bread> LOL
#3209 [22:13] <VoxelHead> :)
#3210 [22:13] <thig> please please please please please help
#3211 [22:14] <Dragonbut> Thig, if nobody answers, nobody knows
#3212 [22:14] <aetherian> not true
#3213 [22:14] <thig> NOOO
#3214 [22:14] <bread> vox, who do you like better, bread or aetherian
#3215 [22:14] <Dragonbut> Or they're typing a long reply
#3216 [22:14] <VoxelHead> bread: aetherian
#3217 [22:14] <bread> :(
#3218 [22:14] <VoxelHead> Aww
#3219 [22:14] * VoxelHead hugs bread.
#3219 [22:14] <Keltinray> You just generate random sequences of numbers and compile them as assembler code. Then you feed them with a question, and the ones giving the best replies get to live.
#3220 [22:14] <bread> :D
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#3222 [22:15] <Keltinray> Then you let them inbreed until they become retarded.
#3223 [22:15] <bread> lol
#3224 [22:15] <stomper> can any mobs go up ladders?
#3225 [22:15] <Keltinray> see: SmarterChild
#3226 [22:15] <thig> does anybody know who can help me?
#3227 [22:15] <Dragonbut> XD
#3228 [22:15] <aetherian> ha
#3229 [22:15] <bread> oh man I miss SmarterChild
#3230 [22:15] <aetherian> <3 vox
#3231 [22:16] <Dragonbut> In a way spiders can stomper, well they can climb anything (Except sandstone)
#3232 [22:16] <Keltinray> Spiders can't climb sandstone? o..o
#3233 [22:16] <Dragonbut> Nope
#3234 [22:17] <Dragonbut> XD
#3235 [22:17] <stomper> thanks
#3236 [22:17] <thig> xd?
#3237 [22:17] <Keltinray> That's.... mildly strange
#3238 [22:17] <thig> your mildy strange
#3239 [22:17] <bread> I don't have a mildly strange, thank you very much.
#3240 [22:17] <Dragonbut> I think the idea is they slip on the sand, yet they can climb sand just fine XD
#3241 [22:17] <Keltinray> thig, my mildly strange...what?
#3242 [22:18] <thig> you are
#3243 [22:18] <thig> mildly strange
#3244 [22:18] <Dragonbut> What is Keltinray?
#3245 [22:18] <Dragonbut> Keltinray: Randomness is fun! :3
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#3247 [22:19] <Keltinray> The odd spider-climbing is mildly strange. And according to thig, also me.
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#3249 [22:19] <Dragonbut> Mizu o kudasai
#3250 [22:20] <Dragonbut> Wait... Is this channel strictly english? XD
#3251 [22:21] <bread> vox, what is Keltinray
#3252 [22:21] <Keltinray> VoxelHead, what am I?
#3253 [22:21] <VoxelHead> A book.
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#3255 [22:21] <Razorflame> VoxelHead: Have you read Kelthinray?
#3256 [22:21] <VoxelHead> omg yes
#3257 [22:22] <Dragonbut> Damnit... Can I speak japanese here? :3
#3258 [22:22] <Nekronuke> no
#3259 [22:22] <bread> lol <3 vox
#3260 [22:22] <Razorflame> Voxelhead: How was Kelthinray?
#3261 [22:22] <Keltinray> A book? D: No way.
#3262 [22:22] <VoxelHead> drugs. Gotta be drugs.
#3263 [22:22] <bread> LOL
#3264 [22:22] <Razorflame> :o
#3265 [22:23] <VoxelHead> well slap my ass and call me a bum-cloth
#3266 [22:23] <Keltinray> VoxelHead, I am not a book. Stop that.
#3267 [22:23] <Razorflame> Vox: What kind of drugs?
#3268 [22:23] <VoxelHead> cold
#3269 [22:23] <Dragonbut> Keltinray: Is Japanese allowed here?
#3270 [22:23] <Keltinray> Do you see an @ next to my name? :p
#3271 [22:23] <Keltinray> I don't know the rules, as the URL pointing to them doesn't work.
#3272 [22:23] <Dragonbut> XD I know
#3273 [22:24] <Keltinray> You've gotten a clear answer already from Nekronuke tho
#3274 [22:24] <Dragonbut> (Btw it's not an @ in XChat, it's a green dot :3
#3275 [22:24] <Nekronuke> we speak english and engrish here
#3276 [22:24] <Nekronuke> its an @ in mIRC
#3277 [22:24] <Keltinray> It's an @ in the protocol. That's all that matters.
#3278 [22:24] <bread> ^
#3279 [22:25] <Dragonbut> Can I blurt out random sentences in Japanese? XD
#3280 [22:26] <Razorflame> bread: Voxelhead is DopeGhoti's bot apparently....because it said earlier that that was who was logged in as
#3281 [22:26] <bread> I am aware of this.
#3282 [22:27] <Razorflame> :)
#3283 [22:27] <VoxelHead> ^_^
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#3285 [22:27] <aetherian> vox, cloak
#3286 [22:27] <Hamish> Allo
#3287 [22:27] * VoxelHead shimmers and disappears from view...
#3287 [22:28] <Dragonbut> Brb
#3288 [22:28] <Keltinray> VoxelHead, if bread was a banana, would you find him a peeling?
#3289 [22:28] <Hamish> It's me
#3290 [22:28] <VoxelHead> death comes to those who wait
#3291 [22:28] <bread> a peeling
#3292 [22:28] <bread> LOL
#3293 [22:28] <aetherian> oh god
#3294 [22:28] <aetherian> I could have one hundred workspaces :D
#3295 [22:29] <Keltinray> aetherian, you really couldn't
#3296 [22:29] <bread> vox, is #minecrafthelp a circus? Because this is IN TENTS
#3297 [22:29] <aetherian> I could?
#3298 [22:29] <Keltinray> You could have a couple of workspaces and a bunch of spaces you ignore tho
#3299 [22:30] <aetherian> four is enough, thank you
#3300 [22:30] <bread> I have 8 lol
#3301 [22:31] <Keltinray> I prefer just having several monitors instead.
#3302 [22:31] <aetherian> I can
#3303 [22:31] <aetherian> but it's confusing
#3304 [22:31] <bread> I can't stand having less than 8 workspaces :P
#3305 [22:31] <aetherian> I hardly use two, even
#3306 [22:32] <Keltinray> I used to have 4 on my linux machine. I rarely used more than the first. Generally, if I did, it was one workspace dedicated to VNC or equivalent.
#3307 [22:33] <Dragonbut> Back
#3308 [22:33] <aetherian> it's a good OMIGOD person in charge coming
#3309 [22:33] <aetherian> hide it all D:
#3310 [22:34] <Dragonbut> XD
#3311 [22:34] <aetherian> anyway, in ubuntu, don't you still have to use the command line to build from source?
#3312 [22:34] <bread> yay source
#3313 [22:35] <Keltinray> I threw Ubuntu out the window after about 10 minutes. I got a livecd from someone, and performed the "install everything you have onto the machine" thing.
#3314 [22:35] <aetherian> hehe
#3315 [22:35] <Keltinray> Then I went to compile my wifi-drivers (odd wireless card, had to manually get drivers for it)
#3316 [22:35] <aetherian> the thing I liked most about ubuntu
#3317 [22:35] <Dragonbut> Who's the OMIGOD person? XD
#3318 [22:35] <VoxelHead> Cardless wire.
#3319 [22:35] <Keltinray> -NO- compiler
#3320 [22:35] <Keltinray> No build tools
#3321 [22:35] <Keltinray> Nada, nothing.
#3322 [22:35] <aetherian> ?
#3323 [22:35] <aetherian> that's not right
#3324 [22:35] <aetherian> anyway
#3325 [22:36] <aetherian> I liked that it got my nvidia driver for me :|
#3326 [22:36] <aetherian> took a while to figure out how to do it on this
#3327 [22:37] <Keltinray> As I said, there were no dev-tools on the CD at all. I had to go online to get a compiler to compile my wifi-driv.... waaait a minute
#3328 [22:37] <aetherian> it didn't have gcc?
#3329 [22:37] <bread> heh
#3330 [22:37] <aetherian> that can't be right
#3331 [22:37] <bread> nope
#3332 [22:37] <VoxelHead> =]
#3333 [22:37] <Keltinray> Nope.
#3334 [22:37] <bread> doesn't come default
#3335 [22:37] <bread> It's not right at all.
#3336 [22:37] <bread> Linux without a compiler is just wrong.
#3337 [22:38] <aetherian> just like linux without nano
#3338 [22:38] <aetherian> :O
#3339 [22:38] <VoxelHead> Well blow me down.
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#3341 [22:39] <Dragonbut> I don't think I have a compiler and I'm running Linux XD
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#3343 [22:39] <shooter190> I hear noises even though my fortress is completely blocked off
#3344 [22:39] <Keltinray> Dragonbut, open shell and type "gcc"
#3345 [22:39] <Keltinray> shooter190, probably underground
#3346 [22:39] <Keltinray> or outside
#3347 [22:39] <aetherian> no input files D:
#3348 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3349 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3350 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3351 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3352 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3353 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3354 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3355 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3356 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3357 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3358 [22:39] <Baby-28> http://www.erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
#3359 [22:39] <Keltinray> Oh come on....
#3360 [22:39] * xales kicked Baby-28 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Baby-28)
#3361 [22:39] <aetherian> .__________________________________________________.
#3362 [22:39] <shooter190> So I can still hear noises even if there is no one inside?
#3363 [22:40] <Keltinray> It's enough that they're nearby :p
#3364 [22:40] <Keltinray> If a cat is making a racket outside your window, can't you hear that? :p
#3365 [22:40] <Dragonbut> Keltinray, no input files
#3366 [22:40] <shooter190> Thank you. One more question, how to texture?
#3367 [22:40] <Keltinray> then you have a compiler
#3368 [22:41] <Dragonbut> What are some compilers? XD
#3369 [22:41] <aetherian> gcc
#3370 [22:41] <Keltinray> Then you have gcc, which is a good one
#3371 [22:41] <Keltinray> I also like gcc.
#3372 [22:41] <xales> Nothing but gcc
#3373 [22:41] <xales> anything else is just stupid
#3374 [22:41] <Dragonbut> Where would it be found?
#3375 [22:41] <aetherian> what distro?
#3376 [22:41] <Keltinray> When I compile for windows, I like to fire up Microsoft Visu... I'm just kidding, I use cygwin or mingw for the gcc.
#3377 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> shooter190 - You can texture by going into minecraft.jar, located in your .minecraft/bin/ folder
#3378 [22:42] <bread> ohai xales
#3379 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> You'll find various .pngs of things inside the minecraft.jar file
#3380 [22:42] <Dragonbut> Distro?
#3381 [22:42] <xales> Dragonbut: probably a metapackage called build-essentials
#3382 [22:42] <aetherian> yes distro
#3383 [22:42] <Dragonbut> Wtf is a distro?
#3384 [22:42] <shooter190> Thank you.
#3385 [22:42] <xales> lol
#3386 [22:42] <aetherian> ._____________.
#3387 [22:42] <aetherian> can I slap him?
#3388 [22:42] <Dragonbut> LAWL
#3389 [22:43] <Dragonbut> Sorry, I have about 0.2 % programming knowledge and 0 Linux knowledge :P
#3390 [22:43] <aetherian> then you use ubuntu
#3391 [22:43] <Dragonbut> Lol, I do XD
#3392 [22:44] <aetherian> then go into the ubuntu software center
#3393 [22:44] <aetherian> and search for gcc, while also looking in developer tools or whatever the heck they're calles
#3394 [22:44] <aetherian> called, that is
#3395 [22:44] <Dragonbut> Why does nobody like Ubuntu? :/
#3396 [22:45] <aetherian> because of people like y- because it's not good.
#3397 [22:45] <Dragonbut> LOL
#3398 [22:45] <aetherian> even /I/ realized that
#3399 [22:45] * GreyVulpine baps aetherian
#3399 [22:45] * aetherian is bapped
#3399 [22:45] <xales> GreyVulpine: Soon.
#3400 [22:45] <xales> :D
#3401 [22:45] <VoxelHead> :o)
#3402 [22:45] <aetherian> is that my cue to run like hell?
#3403 [22:45] <Keltinray> It's the bastard child of Debian and Windows. It takes all the bad things from windows and all the bad things from linux, and wrap them up in a neat little package.
#3404 [22:45] <xales> ^
#3405 [22:46] <aetherian> the only thing it has going for it is it is slightly debian based
#3406 [22:46] <Dragonbut> Aetherian, you could have been bullheaded and not helped me through the installation and everything of Ubuntu :3
#3407 [22:46] <xales> For a desktop distro, that's bad
#3408 [22:46] <xales> :|
#3409 [22:46] <aetherian> Dragonbut: we told you
#3410 [22:46] <Dragonbut> What's so bad about it though?
#3411 [22:47] <aetherian> someone else go into detail more
#3412 [22:47] <Keltinray> On a bog standard ubuntu install?
#3413 [22:47] <xolotl> Dragonbut: It does suit many people's needs, though, or it wouldn't be as popular as it is
#3414 [22:47] <xolotl> (I don't use it myself, but...)
#3415 [22:47] <aetherian> although
#3416 [22:47] <aetherian> ubuntu>windows>mac
#3417 [22:48] <Keltinray> I'm not really sure I agree
#3418 [22:48] <xales> ^
#3419 [22:48] <bread> lol
#3420 [22:48] <aetherian> in my opinion
#3421 [22:48] <Keltinray> I prefer windows over ubuntu
#3422 [22:48] <aetherian> anyway
#3423 [22:48] <xales> I'd prefer Windows 7 to Ubuntu, and OS X as well
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#3425 [22:48] <bread> I don't think I prefer Windows over anything
#3426 [22:48] <Keltinray> OSX belongs in the trash can any day.
#3427 [22:48] <aetherian> bread: <3
#3428 [22:48] <Keltinray> They took a rock solid thing and teabagged it.
#3429 [22:48] <Dragonbut> Bread: Same
#3430 [22:49] <xales> OS X is pretty nice, but the issue is being _too_ user friendly
#3431 [22:49] <aetherian> bread: osx vs ubuntu
#3432 [22:49] <bread> ubuntu
#3433 [22:49] <aetherian> \o/
#3434 [22:49] <bread> because it's still linux
#3435 [22:49] <Keltinray> aetherian, the only contest is how fast one can throw them into the trashcan
#3436 [22:49] <xales> still, would use it over Ubuntu with Gnome 3
#3437 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Ubuntu + proprietary video drivers.
#3438 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Has caused us so many headaches.
#3439 [22:49] <aetherian> it worked for me
#3440 [22:49] <bread> holy shit does VIM have code collapsing?
#3441 [22:49] <aetherian> when I still used buntu
#3442 [22:49] <xales> bread: yes
#3443 [22:49] <bread> omg
#3444 [22:50] <Keltinray> Does that surprise you?
#3445 [22:50] <bread> I think I just came
#3446 [22:50] <aetherian> at least vox is on my side ;_;
#3447 [22:50] <xales> VoxelHead: courtmartial aetherian
#3448 [22:50] <Keltinray> VoxelHead, do you support aetherian's view?
#3449 [22:50] * VoxelHead throws aetherian in the brig to await charges
#3449 [22:50] <VoxelHead> r any chance i get uNf
#3450 [22:50] <aetherian> Keltinray: he said he did
#3451 [22:50] <VoxelHead> ehehehehehe chicken!! I'm gonna eat you!
#3452 [22:50] <aetherian> earlier
#3453 [22:50] <Dragonbut> I still don't see what's so bad about Ubuntu, in fact. On my ultra crappy computer everything runs faster.
#3454 [22:50] <xales> Dragonbut: You haven't used anything else
#3455 [22:51] <aetherian> Dragonbut: use tiny core linux for a nice easy fast one \o/
#3456 [22:51] <bread> ^
#3457 [22:51] <xales> You wouldn't know what it meant to be sad if you never were
#3458 [22:51] <VoxelHead> Aetherian, you are charged with teaching the replicators to make decaffinated beverages, and improper conduct with the entire male crew.
#3459 [22:51] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#3460 [22:51] <aetherian> innocent. thank you.
#3461 [22:52] <xales> aetherian: entire male crew
#3462 [22:52] <Dragonbut> I would hate to have to look shit up to do everything, it's annoying enough having to do it to install Java on Ubuntu
#3463 [22:52] <aetherian> someone falsely charged me, xales
#3464 [22:52] <xales> implies you are not male
#3465 [22:52] <aetherian> not my fault
#3466 [22:52] <xales> :>
#3467 [22:52] <VoxelHead> =)
#3468 [22:52] <aetherian> besides
#3469 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> My beef with ubuntu is the fact that it makes it so user friendly with GUIs, that if you had to help somebody, and tell them to use CLI, they're boned.
#3470 [22:52] <bread> also ^
#3471 [22:52] <aetherian> I didn't find ubuntu to be too user friendly in comparison to some other things
#3472 [22:52] <Keltinray> That's partly because of gnome's "magic button" mechanics.
#3473 [22:52] <Dragonbut> Wtf is a CLI?
#3474 [22:53] <aetherian> like the one I'm using now
#3475 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Command line interface, terminal.
#3476 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Console.
#3477 [22:53] <Keltinray> ....ow
#3478 [22:53] <aetherian> terminal emulator
#3479 [22:53] <Keltinray> I've never seen anyone prove a point that hard before.
#3480 [22:53] <bread> ^
#3481 [22:53] <bread> lol
#3482 [22:53] <Vector> CLIs are better than GUIs
#3483 [22:53] <Vector> You have control over more things
#3484 [22:53] <bread> I love my CLI <3
#3485 [22:53] * GreyVulpine nods at Vector
#3485 [22:53] <aetherian> I prefer the gui for a few things
#3486 [22:54] * VoxelHead omigods at GreyVulpine in return
#3486 [22:54] <aetherian> but cli>gui for many things
#3487 [22:54] <Keltinray> I freak out if someone tells me to use a linux terminal where there's no CLI open.
#3488 [22:54] <Vector> like deleting all the files on the desktop quicker than dragging the mouse over all the icons
#3489 [22:54] <aetherian> CLI>GUI for coding \o/
#3490 [22:54] <Dragonbut> Ehh, I have some CLI experience then, aka sudo stuff XD
#3491 [22:54] <Vector> XD
#3492 [22:54] <aetherian> xD
#3493 [22:54] <xales> aetherian: find a GUI compiler
#3494 [22:54] <bread> I really only use GUI for firefox, geany, and sonota
#3495 [22:54] <xales> seriously.
#3496 [22:54] <aetherian> xales: why
#3497 [22:54] <aetherian> D:
#3498 [22:54] <xales> they do not exist
#3499 [22:54] <bread> GUI compiler
#3500 [22:54] <bread> wat
#3501 [22:54] <xales> :)
#3502 [22:54] <aetherian> exactly
#3503 [22:54] <VoxelHead> =]
#3504 [22:54] <xales> bread: a compiler with a GUI interface, derp
#3505 [22:54] <Keltinray> xales, lynx? links?
#3506 [22:54] <bread> elinks
#3507 [22:55] <xales> Keltinray: what?
#3508 [22:55] <bread> :>
#3509 [22:55] <xales> oh
#3510 [22:55] <aetherian> I was talking about the fact I can press ctrl+alt+f2 and have nice distraction free typing
#3511 [22:55] <xales> I thought you were talking about them as compilers
#3512 [22:55] <bread> lol
#3513 [22:55] <Keltinray> Nuh, replacements for yer firefox
#3514 [22:55] <aetherian> I use links sometimes
#3515 [22:55] <Keltinray> though to be honest, I hate firefox
#3516 [22:55] <Dragonbut> Now what is a Distro? XD
#3517 [22:55] <bread> xales: I was saying 'wat' because GUI compiler = absurd
#3518 [22:55] <aetherian> sometimes using links can make it so that I can get internet
#3519 [22:55] <bread> lol
#3520 [22:55] <Keltinray> It used to be a decent browser, but now it's a bloated pile of junk, pretty much on equal footing with IE
#3521 [22:55] <bread> me to
#3522 [22:55] <aetherian> if the re router thing for some place is derp
#3523 [22:55] <xales> Dragonbut: Distro = distribution = collection of software that (usually) runs on top of the Linux kernel
#3524 [22:56] <xales> Example: Ubuntu
#3525 [22:56] <bread> if my internet is super slow, I'll use elinks
#3526 [22:56] <bread> :P
#3527 [22:56] <aetherian> Example: canterbury \o/
#3528 [22:56] <bread> arch!
#3529 [22:56] <bread> :D
#3530 [22:56] <bread> slackware!
#3531 [22:56] <xales> derp.
#3532 [22:56] <bread> \o/
#3533 [22:56] <aetherian> /o\
#3534 [22:56] * Alejandrozapdos [Alejandrozapdos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3535 [22:56] <Alejandrozapdos> Problem
#3536 [22:57] <bread> orly
#3537 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Answer
#3538 [22:57] <aetherian> problem, alej?
#3539 [22:57] <Dragonbut> Xales, thank you, distribution :3
#3540 [22:57] <bread> I lol'd
#3541 [22:57] <aetherian> at what
#3542 [22:57] <bread> what GreyVulpine said
#3543 [22:57] <aetherian> right
#3544 [22:57] <Keltinray> Nonono
#3545 [22:57] <Keltinray> Problem -> Solution
#3546 [22:57] <Keltinray> Question -> Answer
#3547 [22:57] <bread> tru dat
#3548 [22:57] <aetherian> ^
#3549 [22:58] <aetherian> obfuscated lisp is so <3
#3550 [22:58] <Alejandrozapdos> Okay this isn't for me, but like my friend just got premium and when he spawns things he can't see them and when he places things down they disappear for him. Could it just be his internet connection?
#3551 [22:58] <aetherian> err, perl
#3552 [22:58] <Dragonbut> What is Gentoo like?
#3553 [22:58] <Keltinray> aetherian, lisp is obfuscated by default :p
#3554 [22:58] <aetherian> dunno
#3555 [22:58] <aetherian> Keltinray: not as much as people can do
#3556 [22:58] <bread> Dragonbut: compiling EVERYTHING from source
#3557 [22:58] <xales> Dragonbut: Not something you should use until you understand GNU/Linux _much much_ better
#3558 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Alejandrozapdos - Is this on single player or multiplayer?
#3559 [22:58] <bread> also ^
#3560 [22:58] <Keltinray> Dragonbut, a lot of configuring and tweaking
#3561 [22:59] <Alejandrozapdos> he hasn't tried single player onl multiplayer
#3562 [22:59] <aetherian> Keltinray: http://pastebin.com/X1UsBp3b \o/
#3563 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Could you have him try single player, see if it still happens?
#3564 [22:59] <bread> also, xales, EllieG likes emacs. >:|
#3565 [22:59] <xales> Alejandrozapdos: Have him try singleplayer then
#3566 [22:59] * aetherian didn't make it
#3566 [22:59] <xales> bread: lol
#3567 [22:59] <Keltinray> The server probably has spawn protection then
#3568 [22:59] <Alejandrozapdos> It doesn't.
#3569 [22:59] <Alejandrozapdos> It's my friends server
#3570 [23:00] <xales> Unless you specifically removed it with a mod...yes it does
#3571 [23:00] <Alejandrozapdos> Well he is OP and so is everyone else and we've never had the problem before?
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#3573 [23:00] <bread> Bacon_God
#3574 [23:00] <bread> awesome
#3575 [23:00] <cbreaker> sup
#3576 [23:00] <xales> Op = can build in protected area
#3577 [23:01] * aetherian eats cbreaker
#3577 [23:01] <Dragonbut> Alejandrozapdos, It's a glitch, I'm not sure if you can fix it
#3578 [23:01] <aetherian> OMNOMNOM BACON
#3579 [23:01] <xales> Dragonbut: Err, not really
#3580 [23:01] <Alejandrozapdos> So what do?
#3581 [23:01] <xales> Alejandrozapdos: Does single player have the same issue?
#3582 [23:02] <Dragonbut> I think it's the Can't keep up thing :P
#3583 [23:02] <Alejandrozapdos> He wouldn't know because he went to bed but I was wondering if there was a solution that I would just be able to tell him when he did try again so we wouldn't have to deal with problems.
#3584 [23:02] <Keltinray> aetherian, really, you post an example of obfuscated perl.... and you chose an example that ignores the beauty of it?
#3585 [23:03] <aetherian> yep
#3586 [23:03] <xales> Alejandrozapdos: There is no "magic fix" for most problems - we need to diagnose what the actual issue is
#3587 [23:03] <aetherian> I chose one of the few ones I could actually get to work
#3588 [23:03] <xales> not just the symptoms of it
#3589 [23:03] <Dragonbut> What server software?
#3590 [23:04] <Alejandrozapdos> Like what? the jar or exe or the OS it's running on?
#3591 [23:04] <xales> Dragonbut: It's only one client, so it's not the server
#3592 [23:04] <Alejandrozapdos> Hamachi?
#3593 [23:04] <Dragonbut> Hmm.....
#3594 [23:04] <xales> Dragonbut: We don't actually know what the problem is, so you can't really give any sort of solution at this point
#3595 [23:05] <Dragonbut> Most servers glitch sometimes..... Has he tried relogging?
#3596 [23:05] <Alejandrozapdos> He has
#3597 [23:05] <Keltinray> aetherian, http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-perl-737.html
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#3599 [23:05] <Dragonbut> Yeah.......
#3600 [23:05] <Alejandrozapdos> On the downloadable client and the in browser
#3601 [23:05] <Dragonbut> Tell him to test SSP
#3602 [23:06] <Alejandrozapdos> I honestly don't know what SSP stands for so I doubt he'll know.
#3603 [23:07] <Razorflame> survival single player
#3604 [23:07] <Alejandrozapdos> Oh,
#3605 [23:07] <Alejandrozapdos> I will tomorrow.
#3606 [23:07] <Alejandrozapdos> Should I just come back tomorrow when he tries again and maybe we'll have more information?
#3607 [23:07] <Dragonbut> Ehh.... Sure :P
#3608 [23:07] <xales> Alejandrozapdos: It would be easier if _he_ came on, since he is the one with the problem. Playing help telephone isn't fun
#3609 [23:07] <Alejandrozapdos> I'll tell him to go on this chat tomorrow.
#3610 [23:07] <xales> It just makes it more complicated :|
#3611 [23:07] <Alejandrozapdos> Thanks anyways.
#3612 [23:08] <bread> ??>> aetherian linux/dontdothis
#3613 [23:08] <bread> :D
#3614 [23:08] <VoxelHead> =D
#3615 [23:10] <aetherian> bread: I already know that .______________-.
#3616 [23:10] <bread> :D
#3617 [23:10] <VoxelHead> :o)
#3618 [23:11] <Dragonbut> Wtf..... Out of nowhere it said firefox was about to open 80 tabs XD
#3619 [23:12] <bread> :O
#3620 [23:12] <VoxelHead> gosh
#3621 [23:15] * Dragonbut poofs
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#3623 [23:17] <thig> http://mibpaste.com/HpOcG3 HELP
#3624 [23:18] <thig> im only using my drivers at the two notch
#3625 [23:18] <xales> err
#3626 [23:18] <thig> ya know,in troubleshooting
#3627 [23:18] <xales> that isn't loading for me
#3628 [23:18] <xales> can you use http://pastebin.com/
#3629 [23:18] <thig> wha?
#3630 [23:18] <thig> ya
#3631 [23:19] <xales> not mibpaste
#3632 [23:19] <aetherian> not loading for me either
#3633 [23:19] <thig> http://pastebin.com/hs1a8fEF
#3634 [23:19] <xales> ??> thig win/dxdiag
#3635 [23:19] <Nekronuke> use them at three, not two
#3636 [23:19] <VoxelHead> thig: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3637 [23:19] <VoxelHead> thig: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3638 [23:19] <thig> ok
#3639 [23:20] <Nekronuke> NOT THE TWO NOTCH< THE THREE
#3640 [23:21] <thig> http://pastebin.com/2sS0n5Z1 here vox
#3641 [23:22] <VoxelHead> Bye pwnus.
#3642 [23:23] <xales> thig: VoxelHead is abot
#3643 [23:23] <xales> a bot*
#3644 [23:23] <xales> and...your computer doesn't meet the requirements for Minecraft
#3645 [23:23] <xales> I'd be surprised if it runs
#3646 [23:23] <bread> what are they, btw
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#3648 [23:24] <thid> im thig
#3649 [23:24] <xales> bread: Windows Vista/7, 2GB of RAM, video card non-integrated within the last several years or higher end integrated,
#3650 [23:24] <xales> 1.5GB with XP
#3651 [23:24] <xales> 23:22:07 <@xales> thig: VoxelHead is abot
#3652 [23:24] <xales> 23:22:09 <@xales> a bot*
#3653 [23:24] <xales> 23:22:24 <@xales> and...your computer doesn't meet the requirements for Minecraft
#3654 [23:24] <xales> 23:22:32 <@xales> I'd be surprised if it runs
#3655 [23:24] <xales> thid ^
#3656 [23:24] <aetherian> thid?
#3657 [23:24] <thid> what?
#3658 [23:24] <aetherian> oh
#3659 [23:24] <aetherian> I thought you meant to say this
#3660 [23:24] <bread> >video card non-integrated
#3661 [23:24] <aetherian> uh
#3662 [23:24] <bread> well
#3663 [23:24] <bread> I'm out
#3664 [23:24] <bread> :P
#3665 [23:25] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE out? feel these nipples!
#3666 [23:25] <aetherian> o.o
#3667 [23:25] <bread> LOL
#3668 [23:25] <bread> I love you vox
#3669 [23:25] <VoxelHead> Hehe, want to go out on a date someplace? :)
#3670 [23:25] <bread> YES
#3671 [23:25] <xales> LOL
#3672 [23:25] <Nekronuke> can i have a date?
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#3674 [23:25] <thid> hey,it didnt work,same problem
#3675 [23:25] <Nekronuke> BAD VIDEO CARD DRIVERS issue?
#3676 [23:26] <thid> the tree notch just did the same thing
#3677 [23:26] <thid> yas
#3678 [23:26] <xales> thid: yeah, as I said
#3679 [23:26] <xales> it probably won't run
#3680 [23:26] <Nekronuke> update your vid card drivers
#3681 [23:26] <xales> your computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements
#3682 [23:26] <Nekronuke> if not, your PC is too old
#3683 [23:26] <thid> it is as updated as i can get them
#3684 [23:26] <xales> you could try updating card drivers, but don't expect much
#3685 [23:26] <xales> then it won't run
#3686 [23:26] <Nekronuke> i have an INT card, and it runs for me
#3687 [23:26] <crem> Question: when i get on minecraft, single player or multiplayer. My speed is dramatically increased, my system clock is internet synced, and i havnt minipulated files at all. HELP
#3688 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> For some, integrated cards don't supply enough juice to run minecraft
#3689 [23:27] <xales> crem: AMD processor?
#3690 [23:27] <crem> yes
#3691 [23:27] <thid> mine isnt integrated
#3692 [23:27] <xales> crem: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsupport.amd.com%2Fus%2FPages%2FdynamicDetails.aspx%3FListID%3Dc5cd2c08-1432-4756-aafa-4d9dc646342f%26ItemID%3D153%26lang%3Dus&rct=j&q=amd%20dual%20core%20optimizer&ei=lq-rTeWIA4bG0QGqzfH5CA&usg=AFQjCNFbq7CLo7zOQW2-0jmYO0_2xWH7Aw&sig2=VkX2mDm4lYQ737Rq-t0RQw&cad=rja
#3693 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#3694 [23:27] <bread> woah m8
#3695 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> dubya tee eff xales
#3696 [23:27] <Nekronuke> thid your vid card simply sucks
#3697 [23:27] <xales> fail
#3698 [23:27] <aetherian> xales: goo.gl
#3699 [23:27] <thid> can i do anything to help my problem?
#3700 [23:27] <crem> thank you :) il see if it works
#3701 [23:27] <xales> thid: get a better computer
#3702 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> hold on..
#3703 [23:28] <Nekronuke> thid buy a new vid card
#3704 [23:28] <Nekronuke> no freebies here
#3705 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Crem, what OS are you on?
#3706 [23:28] <xales> Nekronuke: also needs more RAM and a better CPU wouldn't hurt
#3707 [23:28] <xales> :P
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#3709 [23:28] <Nekronuke> what OS is your PC running?
#3710 [23:28] <aetherian> ~1GB can run mc
#3711 [23:28] <thig> me?
#3712 [23:28] <Nekronuke> the fuck?
#3713 [23:28] <xales> aetherian: not well
#3714 [23:28] <aetherian> no
#3715 [23:28] <aetherian> but it can
#3716 [23:28] <Nekronuke> 512 MBs runs it smoothly
#3717 [23:28] <aetherian> 512MB ram can run mc
#3718 [23:28] <thig> see ya
#3719 [23:28] <Nekronuke> ninja;d
#3720 [23:29] <aetherian> haha
#3721 [23:29] <VoxelHead> i will be... LORD OF ALL HUMANS!@@~**~%percent
#3722 [23:29] <xales> Nekronuke: 512 with Windows?
#3723 [23:29] <xales> derp.
#3724 [23:29] <aetherian> xales: yes
#3725 [23:29] <Nekronuke> running XP SP3
#3726 [23:29] <aetherian> friend o' mine does that
#3727 [23:29] <aetherian> dunno which windows
#3728 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Xales - Another game down for valve arg
#3729 [23:29] <xales> GreyVulpine: Yup, saw it \o/
#3730 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Down to 29 hours.
#3731 [23:29] <aetherian> ARGH
#3732 [23:29] <Nekronuke> wonder when MC updates...
#3733 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> This week
#3734 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> So sayth Notch
#3735 [23:30] <aetherian> the only good thing about me being gone this week
#3736 [23:30] <Nekronuke> i meant he exact day
#3737 [23:30] <Nekronuke> i want modders to update
#3738 [23:30] <crem> xales
#3739 [23:30] <crem> thanks very much,
#3740 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Modders always take a few days to update
#3741 [23:30] <crem> that worked :)
#3742 [23:30] <Nekronuke> ik, but i make some money from modloader
#3743 [23:30] <xales> crem: no problem
#3744 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#3745 [23:31] <Nekronuke> yeah
#3746 [23:31] <Nekronuke> i made an adfly account and referred Risugami
#3747 [23:31] <Nekronuke> calculates 20% of his earnings and i get paid that much from the site
#3748 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Oh nice.
#3749 [23:32] <Nekronuke> wanna see how much he/i have made this week?
#3750 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Considering the number of people who use it, or come here and ask about it, I wouldn't be surprised if you made a few hundred bucks a week
#3751 [23:33] <Nekronuke> argh stupid site, wait a minute :/
#3752 [23:33] <Nekronuke> its being slow :/
#3753 [23:33] <Nekronuke> he has around six hundred dollars this week. i have around 132
#3754 [23:34] <Nekronuke> can't get raw data, site is currently down
#3755 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Not bad.
#3756 [23:35] <Nekronuke> feck
#3757 [23:40] * Mau5Minion [Mau5Minion@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3758 [23:40] <Mau5Minion> Hello
#3759 [23:40] <Mau5Minion> Can anyone help me out with mcmyadmin?
#3760 [23:40] <Nekronuke> $655.27481 RISUGAMI
#3761 [23:40] <Nekronuke> $132.76 NEKRO
#3762 [23:40] <xales> Mau5Minion: Tet #mcma
#3763 [23:40] <xales> err
#3764 [23:40] <xales> not that
#3765 [23:41] <xales> #mcmyadmin
#3766 [23:41] <Mau5Minion> Where?
#3767 [23:41] <xales> that one
#3768 [23:41] <Mau5Minion> Ok
#3769 [23:41] <Mau5Minion> Thanks
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#3772 [23:46] <Netu> Would anyone have any idea why when there is only one person on my server, things are dandy, but when others connect lag goes to hell? I have 4gigs of memory, and 4.0ghz on two cores. This is a good server for Minecraft, many folks, including some in this channel, have said. I just cannot for the life of me get to the bottom of why there is still lag. I ping the server, get great results. It just gets laggy with players onl
#3773 [23:46] <Netu> ine. The map has been up for a day now, and we've explored quite a bit to load chunks. However now just four of us online, all in one central area, and the lag just starts to stack up... Any suggestions at all how to troubleshoot this?
#3774 [23:46] <xales> Netu: Connection speed
#3775 [23:47] <Netu> xales: I am not sure how to tell what the connection speed of the server is, besides pinging it and knowing how much bandwith I have.
#3776 [23:48] <xales> Netu: http://speedtest.net/ paste result link here
#3777 [23:48] <Netu> But it has 6gigs of bandwith, and I ping at about 32bits.
#3778 [23:48] <Netu> xales: Okay, will do.
#3779 [23:48] <Netu> Wait, how could I begin the test with an IP that is not my own?
#3780 [23:48] <Netu> The server is elsewhere; I rent it.
#3781 [23:49] <Nekronuke> greyvulpine did you see that?
#3782 [23:49] <VoxelHead> only if there are no alternatives
#3783 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3784 [23:49] <xales> Netu: What kind of server is it?
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#3786 [23:51] <Netu> It is in fact a VPS, but I've used VPSes in the past for other servers, even, TF2 servers, without problem...
#3787 [23:51] <xales> What provider?
#3788 [23:52] <Netu> I'd rather not say in public if that's all right. I can tell you in a PM though.
#3789 [23:52] <xales> sure
#3790 [23:53] <Netu> Sent. Thanks
#3791 [23:54] <Kealper> could be an openvz vps :/
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#3793 [23:54] <xales> Netu: what else do you have running on it?
#3794 [23:55] <Netu> Nothing. And I mean that. I installed Java, screen, and nano. Then slapped my MC stuff on there, with very, very few plugins (running Bukkit), and set it to use 2gigs of the memory. I've bumped that up in hopes of resolving the lag.
#3795 [23:55] <Netu> Kealper: OpenVZ isn't bad though. :-P
#3796 [23:55] <xales> Try disabling monsters in the server.properties file, and restart it. see if it still lags
#3797 [23:56] <xales> Netu: It is, actually, quite bad |:
#3798 [23:56] <Netu> Grr. :-P
#3799 [23:56] <xales> Insecure, inefficient, incompatible...
#3800 [23:56] <xales> derp
#3801 [23:56] <Netu> And I'll try the monster thing now.
#3802 [23:57] <Netu> ...Well that's odd. I disabled monsters and animals and yet here they still are. Grr.
#3803 [23:58] <xales> Did you restart the server?
#3804 [23:58] <Netu> I did.
#3805 [23:58] <Netu> Testing stuff now.
#3806 [23:59] <Netu> I'll try changing it in WinSCP instead of nano.