#1 [00:00] <Netu> Well that worked. Maybe I hit cntrl+c instead of cntrl+x when I quit nano, or something. Meh, who knows. Anyway, still a noticable lag on opening chests...
#2 [00:00] <Netu> Only two of us on though.
#3 [00:02] <xales> Netu: So...only lag with two people or more, not one?
#4 [00:02] <Netu> That "theory" is still in the making. It is what some members have reported to me. (Also, wolves still appear with monsters/animals disabled?)
#5 [00:03] <Netu> It does seem that lag has reduced now, though. The two of us agree. Quite substantially in fact...
#6 [00:03] <Netu> I couldn't imagine playing without monsters and animals though! I guess I will seek out a Bukkit plugin or something to control their rates of spawn...
#7 [00:04] <bread> ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
#8 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> It's not that, it has to do with Minecraft's netcode
#9 [00:04] <Netu> :-(
#10 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Turning off monsters/animals, decreases the load enough, that the server can handle the unoptimized netcode of minecraft (we think).
#11 [00:04] <xales> Netu: It's probably just underpowered for a Minecraft server
#12 [00:04] <xales> VPSes usually are
#13 [00:05] <Netu> This is, by far, the most powerful VPS I have ever had, though, which is the thing that I'm so amazed by.
#14 [00:05] <Netu> (Obviously not though? Heh.)
#15 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Mojang is planning on releasing a patch sometime this week, which Daniel tells me that they packaged a possible fix for this lag.
#16 [00:05] <xales> The information they give you can be misleading
#17 [00:05] <xales> especially given the price
#18 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> So you may have better performace then.
#19 [00:06] <Netu> GreyVulpine: I do hope so! :-) I really do.
#20 [00:07] <Netu> xales: Yeah... Well, then.
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#23 [00:11] <Netu> Someone's telling me to check my beancounters. A beancounter is a person that does taxes, right? This person is pulling my leg, yeah?
#24 [00:11] <xales> No
#25 [00:11] <Netu> (Googling beancounter and Linux led me to stock information...haha, so maybe that is true.)
#26 [00:11] <xales> http://wiki.openvz.org/Proc/user_beancounters
#27 [00:11] <Netu> xales: Oh, frack. Okay, off to more googling now that I am confident. ;-)
#28 [00:12] <Netu> Or that! Thank you very much. :-)
#29 [00:13] <Netu> OH! There ARE fail counts! Look at that!
#30 [00:14] <Netu> This has led to a whole new series of investigation. Thanks again, everyone!
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#33 [00:16] <HamishClaxton> Kealper:
#34 [00:17] <Puhax> I've been having a huge problem, not for a month, but since mobs were added online, except I didn't try to get help since I thought that it would get fixed after a few updates... but it didn't. What is happening is this: Every time I join a server, the map takes a minute to load, and when it finally loads, everything I do has a delay of 30 - 90 seconds, and I get messages with the same
#35 [00:17] <Puhax> delay. Any help?
#36 [00:18] <HamishClaxton> Kealper:
#37 [00:18] <xales> Puhax: http://speedtest.net/
#38 [00:18] <xales> Run the test, paste the result link
#39 [00:19] <Puhax> You're gonna laugh at the results, trust me.
#40 [00:19] <Puhax> Problem is, that it only happens with minecraft
#41 [00:19] <Netu> Puhax: :-( We won't laugh. Hopefully the issue is not your Net!
#42 [00:19] <Puhax> all other online games work properly
#43 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is unlike most other online games.
#44 [00:20] <aetherian> so truee
#45 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Especially in terms of bandwidth required.
#46 [00:20] <Puhax> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1257153425.png
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#48 [00:21] <xales> Pretty sure that's not enough for Minecraft, sadly
#49 [00:21] <Puhax> :<
#50 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Oh yikes.
#51 [00:21] <aetherian> xales: unless they're on the same subnetwork
#52 [00:22] <aetherian> oh wait
#53 [00:22] <aetherian> crummy download
#54 [00:22] <Puhax> Oh well, thanks.
#55 [00:23] <Netu> Puhax: Sorry. :-( Pray to the Notchbeing that he will one day in his finite wisdom fix these issues, and optimize ye olde Minecraft.
#56 [00:24] <aetherian> *ye newe
#57 [00:24] <Puhax> Funny thing is that it wasn't like that until mobs appeared... or wait... it was one of the updates after the online mobs
#58 [00:25] <Puhax> It was one of the updates between january and february, I think.
#59 [00:25] <xales> Puhax: As the game is developed, the requirements will change
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#63 [00:26] <Puhax> Ok, thanks for the help.
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#66 [00:27] <Puhax> I might come back one of these days.
#67 [00:27] <VoxelHead> Mmm Puhax.
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#84 [01:33] <Da|Mummy> i cant get minecraft to run in browser on ubuntu + chromium, anyone wonna help me figure out why?
#85 [01:33] <Da|Mummy> it looks like it starts for a milisecond, then shuts down
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#88 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Da|Mummy - Does it provide any error logs?
#89 [01:36] <Da|Mummy> not its just a black screen
#90 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> When does it give you the black screen? Immediately? After login?
#91 [01:38] <Da|Mummy> immidietly
#92 [01:38] <xales> Try the download version
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#95 [01:42] <hmw> Da|Mummy: did you try it in FF, too?
#96 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> Da|Mummy - Still there?
#97 [01:44] <Razorflame> I'm still having that overheating problem, even after I did everything I could to stop it from happening...I was using the client version, but I am thinking about trying to browser version to see if I can work Minecraft on the browser without any problems...let's see what happens :)
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#99 [01:46] <xales> lukegb
#100 [01:46] <xales> D:
#101 [01:51] <Da|Mummy> ya i tried ff as well, no go, same thing
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#104 [01:52] <xales> Da|Mummy: Open a Terminal window, run `sudo lshw` and copy the output (all of it, there's a lot) to http://pastebin.com/
#105 [01:52] <xales> and give us the link to it
#106 [01:53] <Da|Mummy> i downloaded jar file, and it tells me im not premium user, i cant try it free or anything this way?
#107 [01:54] <xales> Da|Mummy: The only version you can play for free is Classic
#108 [01:55] <Da|Mummy> so that wont work with the downloader thing?
#109 [01:55] <xales> Downloader thing?
#110 [01:56] <Da|Mummy> download.jsp
#111 [01:56] <xales> You can only play Classic in the browser
#112 [01:57] <Razorflame> I'm playing Beta in the browser right now
#113 [01:57] <Da|Mummy> http://pastebin.com/UaSrspU7
#114 [01:57] <Da|Mummy> i dont think terminam even logged everything..
#115 [01:57] <xales> Razorflame: It wasn't "The only thing that can be played in the browser is Classic," it was "Classic cannot be played anywhere but in the browser"
#116 [01:58] <Razorflame> ah :)
#117 [01:58] <xales> Da|Mummy: Yeah, it didn't get everything
#118 [01:58] <xales> Da|Mummy: Do this:
#119 [01:58] <xales> 'sudo lshw > ~/lshw.txt'
#120 [01:58] <xales> then in your home folder, open lshw.txt
#121 [01:58] <xales> and pastebin that, which will have everything
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#124 [02:01] <Da|Mummy> thats not working out too well either...it wont paste for whatever reason
#125 [02:01] <xales> try uploading the file somewhere then ._.
#126 [02:02] <Da|Mummy> here ill make it a two=parter
#127 [02:02] <Da|Mummy> http://pastebin.com/BJm3FEGC
#128 [02:02] <Da|Mummy> http://pastebin.com/TvfNK1Sh
#129 [02:03] <xales> that's especially long O_O
#130 [02:04] <Da|Mummy> :/
#131 [02:04] <xales> ah, there it is
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#133 [02:04] <xales> okay
#134 [02:04] <Da|Mummy> so before i get into this, is minecraft as full of pokemon freaks as #minecraft leads me to believe?
#135 [02:04] <xales> not really
#136 [02:05] <xales> #minecraft is stupid, I'm trying to deal with them ._.
#137 [02:05] <xales> anyway
#138 [02:05] <Da|Mummy> "not really" isnt as assuring as i would like it to be
#139 [02:05] <xales> in System->Administration->Additional Drivers (might be called Hardware Drivers) make sure the nvidia proprietary driver is enabled
#140 [02:06] <Da|Mummy> i got 3 different ones, and the recommended one is enabled
#141 [02:06] <Saryon> What do I do if I want to change my skin but minecraft.net says I haven't purchased the game even though I did, is there any way I can fix this?
#142 [02:07] <xales> Saryon: What username are you logging in with?
#143 [02:07] <Saryon> Saryon
#144 [02:07] <xales> ??> Da|Mummy java/linux/ubuntu
#145 [02:07] <VoxelHead> Da|Mummy: (java/linux/ubuntu) To install the Oracle JRE environment in recent editions of Ubuntu, follow the guide here:
#146 [02:07] <VoxelHead> Da|Mummy: (java/linux/ubuntu) http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-install-java-jre-and-java-plugin.html
#147 [02:07] <xales> Saryon: You haven't purchased it, then
#148 [02:08] <Razorflame> I found a second dungeon on the surface of the Glacier seed map :)
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#150 [02:08] <xales> if you are playing it, then you are using a different account or a pirated version
#151 [02:08] <Saryon> I purchased the game during alpha, why does it say I haven;t purchased it?
#152 [02:09] <xales> Either it was a different account, or the charge was reversed after you purchased it
#153 [02:09] <xales> or (extremely unlikely) your premium status got reset somehow
#154 [02:09] <xales> ..or you never actually purchased it
#155 [02:09] <Saryon> Well, all I know is that I paid for it, and it did not get reversed, I play the game frequently under the username Saryon
#156 [02:11] <xales> Singleplayer, or multiplayer?
#157 [02:11] <Saryon> Both, I run my own server as well
#158 [02:11] <xales> According to the site, you haven't paid for it, and if you are playing, you are using a pirated version
#159 [02:11] <xales> in both cases, we can't help
#160 [02:12] <xales> (as the topic states, we are community support, and can't help with account issues)
#161 [02:12] <Saryon> Well this is kind of frustrating because I can assure you I did pay for it =/ will it help if I can pull up paypal records?
#162 [02:12] <Saryon> oh, alright
#163 [02:12] <Saryon> can you send me in the right direction as to where I can get this issue resolved?
#164 [02:12] <xales> support@mojang.com
#165 [02:13] <Saryon> thanks for your time dude
#166 [02:13] <xales> np
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#170 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Yay, I got 4 taters.
#171 [02:33] <xales> :|
#172 [02:33] <xales> I have 0
#173 [02:33] <xales> \o/
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#175 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> I only have one sack game, Killing floor
#176 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> 3 there, and joining the steam group gives one more.
#177 [02:36] <xales> I have 0 :(
#178 [02:36] <xales> (games)
#179 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> ...
#180 [02:36] <xales> 0 sack games
#181 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Didn't you idle on #valvearg3?
#182 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> There's been a ton of people giving out copies..
#183 [02:37] <xales> Idle, yes, pay attention, no :|
#184 [02:37] * GreyVulpine kicks xales
#184 [02:37] <xales> :<
#185 [02:45] <aetherian> :D
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#189 [02:51] <hermanboat> hello everybody
#190 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#191 [02:51] <hermanboat> could sombody help me wiht somthing?
#192 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> With?
#193 [02:52] <hermanboat> well let me explain
#194 [02:52] <hermanboat> so when i log into my server and place some blocks or somthing
#195 [02:52] <hermanboat> they get really laggy and delete
#196 [02:52] <hermanboat> then i get end of stream
#197 [02:52] <xales> Are you running the server off your local machine?
#198 [02:53] <hermanboat> plus i know its not the server becuase nobody else is lagging
#199 [02:53] <hermanboat> its not my server
#200 [02:53] <hermanboat> so i know its a client side problem
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#202 [02:54] <hermanboat> but since i kept on getting end of stream i firgured i would come here
#203 [02:54] <hermanboat> do you think thats a account problem or connection problem?
#204 [02:54] <xales> Have you tried other servers?
#205 [02:54] <hermanboat> thats a good idea i will go on a random server
#206 [02:55] <hermanboat> even though im almost 100% sure it isnt the server
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#209 [03:07] <hermanboat> hey everybody again
#210 [03:07] <hermanboat> ok im still getting the end of stream
#211 [03:07] <xales> ??> hermanboat win/reinst
#212 [03:07] <VoxelHead> hermanboat: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#213 [03:08] <VoxelHead> hermanboat: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#215 [03:08] <xales> beyond that...I don't know
#216 [03:08] <xales> I'm going to bed anyway
#217 [03:08] <hermanboat> oh ok
#218 [03:08] <xales> GreyVulpine might be able to help
#219 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Laters xales
#220 [03:08] <aetherian> so long everyone, I'll be back Thursday
#221 [03:08] <hermanboat> ok
#222 [03:08] <hermanboat> wow im dum duh thats the first thing you do when theres a problem lol
#223 [03:12] <hermanboat> that worked ty guys
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#225 [03:15] <hermanboat> hey everybody again
#226 [03:16] <hermanboat> could sombody help me again?
#227 [03:16] <hermanboat> deleting my bin folder didnt work
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#229 [03:16] <Hamish> Hello
#230 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> hermanboat - How are you hosting the server?
#231 [03:16] <hermanboat> im not hosting a server...
#232 [03:17] <hermanboat> im ON a server
#233 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay
#234 [03:17] <Hamish> How do u talk in #minecraft
#235 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> ??> Hamish irc
#236 [03:17] <VoxelHead> Hamish: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#237 [03:17] <VoxelHead> Hamish: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#238 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> hermanboat - Where is the server hosted?
#239 [03:18] <hermanboat> what should i do now grey?
#240 [03:18] <hermanboat> california
#241 [03:18] <hermanboat> im right outside of new york city
#242 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> And nobody else has any problems with lag at all on that server?
#243 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Also, you've tried other servers yourself?
#244 [03:19] <hermanboat> anytime that ive gotten lag on this server it has been clinet side
#245 [03:19] <hermanboat> excpet a couple time when the admin did reloads etc.
#246 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me some system specs of your computer?
#247 [03:20] <hermanboat> 4 gp memory
#248 [03:21] <hermanboat> gateway
#249 [03:21] <hermanboat> about a year old
#250 [03:21] <hermanboat> maybe less
#251 [03:21] <hermanboat> anything else you want?
#252 [03:22] <aetherian> cpu?
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#254 [03:23] <hermanboat> as you can probably tell i dont know much about computors
#255 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me if you've tried other servers? Do you have access to another computer you can try this on?
#256 [03:24] <hermanboat> i havnt tryed other servers but my internet is working perfectly
#257 [03:25] <hermanboat> and i have acess to another comp
#258 [03:25] <hermanboat> but its worse then this one
#259 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net?
#260 [03:25] <hermanboat> ok
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#262 [03:26] <hermanboat> ok i connected
#263 [03:26] <hermanboat> but that isnt my problem
#264 [03:27] <hermanboat> my problem is after a litle while it lags me out
#265 [03:27] <hermanboat> and says end of stream
#266 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Does it still lag you out on that server?
#267 [03:27] <hermanboat> lets wait a litle
#268 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> If it does, it's your computer, if it doesn't, it's the server's fault
#269 [03:29] <hermanboat> it doesnt seem to
#270 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Well then, it's likely either the connection between your computer and the server, or the server itself.
#271 [03:30] <hermanboat> ok ty for the help
#272 [03:31] <hermanboat> werid now im not lagging out
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#274 [03:31] <hermanboat> nvm
#275 [03:32] <B75498> Hello?
#276 [03:32] <B75498> Hi.
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#283 [03:52] <Ehrehin> how do I register
#284 [03:52] <Ehrehin> my nick
#285 [03:52] <_303> ?? irc
#286 [03:52] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#287 [03:52] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
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#289 [03:55] <VoxelHead> I like them =D.
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#291 [03:56] <FireRat> Hello
#292 [03:57] <Hamish> Megggg
#293 [03:57] <Hamish> Smeg
#294 [03:57] <Hamish> Anyone watch Red Dwarf
#295 [03:57] <lemon-rev> why
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#297 [03:58] <Ehrehin> NUT FREEBUILD ANTI-GRIEF 24/7 6/128
#298 [03:58] <Ehrehin> I was kicked for no reason
#299 [03:59] <Ehrehin> and now i can't get it
#300 [03:59] <lemon-rev> maybe cause your not on there white list
#301 [03:59] <Ehrehin> in*\
#302 [03:59] <lemon-rev> ehrehin we are help we cant help you with your troubles with other peoples servers
#303 [03:59] <FireRat> Ya they prob added a whitelist and ur not on it
#304 [03:59] <Ehrehin> no I was building and i was froze the banned
#305 [03:59] <Ehrehin> for no reason
#306 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing we can do with server admins here. It's their server, it's up to them how they want to run it, and who to kick/ban
#307 [04:00] <lemon-rev> cant tell you ehrehin, its another persons server they do as they please
#308 [04:00] <FireRat> Why don't you PM them on forums instead of complaining?
#309 [04:01] <Ehrehin> I can't find the forum page
#310 [04:01] <Ehrehin> nvm
#311 [04:02] <lemon-rev> GreyVulpine yo, do you play mc or just help out as you can ?
#312 [04:02] <FireRat> *shrug* nothing anyone here can do though its up to you to handle it
#313 [04:02] <FireRat> lemon-rev I asked him the same question the other night :P
#314 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> I do play MC, less since 1.3/1.4, but I still hop on every so often.
#315 [04:02] <lemon-rev> oh
#316 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Will most likely take a hiatus when Portal 2 comes out though
#317 [04:03] <FireRat> I am excitted for portal 2
#318 [04:03] <lemon-rev> oh, i think its much better since 1.4 but i was wondering if you still have my trouble with creepers not being able to look up anymore ?
#319 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> I, don't know.
#320 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Have always ran from creepers.
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#322 [04:03] <lemon-rev> firerat, im glad a game like that is still released but the hype is just stupid
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#324 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> As with any hype for any popular game.
#325 [04:04] <lemon-rev> lol, well running is fine, but if your higher up, they look down instead of up, im just thinking it could be a bug or a file thats been messed up, just wondering if its just me
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#327 [04:04] <FireRat> as far as I know Creepers don't look they just sneak up on your butt and slode
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#329 [04:05] <lemon-rev> bah, dungieon siege, isnt get that much hype and its going to be relased shortly but i guess they got the resources to hype the crap out of it, even though i dont care lol
#330 [04:08] <FireRat> I haven't even heard of that game
#331 [04:08] <lemon-rev> lol
#332 [04:09] <lemon-rev> what type of games do you play firerat, shooters and thats it ?
#333 [04:09] <FireRat> anything that can hold my attention for longer than a week
#334 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Got a favorite? Or a fall-back game you always depend on?
#335 [04:10] <lemon-rev> hahahaha, well i guess thats not much considering many of todays games other from rts, and rpg, arnt worth the trouble to take long enough to care for, but they do have nice things to look at :P
#336 [04:10] <lemon-rev> grey i have many :)
#337 [04:10] <FireRat> hmm a good fall back game...
#338 [04:10] <FireRat> Minecraft duh...
#339 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't count :P
#340 [04:10] <FireRat> SoulStorm is a good one
#341 [04:12] <FireRat> Maple Story.... no matter how hard I try I always go back, prob cause I played since it came out years ago so it's like a nostalgia every time I go back xD
#342 [04:12] <lemon-rev> fair enough, a game that i have, as well never got into it though
#343 [04:12] <lemon-rev> you talking console ?
#344 [04:12] <lemon-rev> like ps2
#345 [04:12] <lemon-rev> ?
#346 [04:12] <FireRat> MapleStory is a PC game...
#347 [04:12] <lemon-rev> it is lol
#348 [04:12] <lemon-rev> WTF
#349 [04:12] <FireRat> You never heard of it?
#350 [04:12] <lemon-rev> nope
#351 [04:12] <lemon-rev> going to look it up
#352 [04:13] <FireRat> You must be young then
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#354 [04:13] <lemon-rev> mmorg
#355 [04:13] <lemon-rev> gay
#356 [04:13] <FireRat> When I was young it had just came out and I played for like 3 years then left then came back then left lol
#357 [04:13] <lemon-rev> nope never had the net when i was young
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#359 [04:14] <Vector> when i was born, the internet was ARPANET
#360 [04:14] <FireRat> A console game I always fall back on is Call of Duty or atm Dragon Age 2 xD
#361 [04:14] <FireRat> Add a couple glasses of vodka and anything is fun really lol
#362 [04:15] <lemon-rev> it can stick to the console but i wish those two had stuck somewhere else like down a bunny hole so i could like tnt it lol
#363 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> Heh.
#364 [04:15] <lemon-rev> well anything with vodka i suppose is fun lol
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#366 [04:15] <FireRat> You don't like CoD or DA2?
#367 [04:15] <lemon-rev> NOPE
#368 [04:16] <FireRat> *Gasp* Blasphemy!
#369 [04:16] <lemon-rev> i think those two games are on a different level to what i care for when playing a decent game on pc or console
#370 [04:16] <FireRat> What do you like?
#371 [04:16] <lemon-rev> please gasp as loud as you want
#372 [04:16] <lemon-rev> everything else
#373 [04:16] <lemon-rev> i love car races, rally games,
#374 [04:16] <lemon-rev> mc,
#375 [04:16] <lemon-rev> rts, rpgs
#376 [04:17] <lemon-rev> borderlands :P
#377 [04:17] <lemon-rev> odds world, many puzzle type games
#378 [04:17] <FireRat> borderlands was fun but once I beat it i couldnt play anymore I was too disapointed
#379 [04:17] <lemon-rev> lol
#380 [04:17] <lemon-rev> borderlands is fun if you have muliplayer and you can play it twice you just say play on playthough 2 :P
#381 [04:18] <lemon-rev> love the old games like doom, hexen, heretic
#382 [04:18] <lemon-rev> even some of the really old 2d platformers :)
#383 [04:18] <lemon-rev> like the orgional duke nukem games
#384 [04:18] <lemon-rev> i could go on :)
#385 [04:20] <FireRat> the original duke nukem was awesome
#386 [04:20] <FireRat> Mario is always fun
#387 [04:21] <FireRat> F zero
#388 [04:21] <lemon-rev> only new about mario much later, after i got the internet, but you get that, f zero , never played that one, kinda wanta though but too many games on platter atm to play :)
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#390 [04:24] <FireRat> F zero was an old snes racing game with jet cars?
#391 [04:24] <FireRat> anyways you went super fast
#392 [04:24] <lemon-rev> lol
#393 [04:24] <FireRat> and ya who as a young kid doesn't like jet cars pssh
#394 [04:24] <lemon-rev> sounds good
#395 [04:24] <lemon-rev> really, well its always better to play something other from what ever it is you really hate :)
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#397 [04:25] <aetherian> bye for real people
#398 [04:25] <XternaL> Anyone able to check if my server is working?
#399 [04:26] <aetherian> see you on Thursday
#400 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> IP?
#401 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> Cya aetherian
#402 [04:26] <aetherian> :|
#403 [04:26] <XternaL> 10.0.1.9:25565
#404 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> That's not a public IP
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#406 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> Anything 10.x.y.z is a private class A ip range.
#407 [04:27] <XternaL> no?
#408 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#409 [04:27] <FireRat> shouldnt it be like 70?
#410 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> XternaL - This on your computer?
#411 [04:29] <XternaL> yes
#412 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Go to whatismyip.com
#413 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> That'll tell you your public IP
#414 [04:31] <XternaL> 24.108.211.4?
#415 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> That would be it. Have you port forwarded?
#416 [04:32] <Steve> !check 24.108.211.4
#417 [04:32] <XternaL> well, i have a mac, and a mac router thing
#418 [04:32] <Steve> .check 24.108.211.4
#419 [04:33] <Steve> (屮ﾟДﾟ)屮
#420 [04:33] <Steve> ew, mac
#421 [04:33] <XternaL> ya...
#422 [04:33] <XternaL> the airport express is the annoying part
#423 [04:33] <XternaL> it hates everything
#424 [04:33] <Steve> and a mac router.
#425 [04:33] <Steve> REALLY.
#426 [04:34] <Steve> you can buy a generic router with WIFI and it'll work
#427 [04:34] <XternaL> true
#428 [04:34] <Steve> but anyway, http://portforward.com/ there should be port forwarding instructions for your shitey mac in there
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#430 [04:35] <Ehrehin> ok I registered but it wont let me log back in.......
#431 [04:36] <lemon-rev> check your email
#432 [04:36] <Ehrehin> i did and confirmed it
#433 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> Use /ns identify password
#434 [04:38] <Steve> or /nickserv identify password
#435 [04:38] <Steve> or /msg NickServ blah blah
#436 [04:38] <Steve> GreyVulpine can I have my AOP back? :<
#437 [04:38] <Steve> you know, the AOP I legitimately earned through TrueWolves
#438 [04:40] <Steve> aaand ignored again.
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#440 [04:41] <Ehrehin> invalid nick name and or password everytime
#441 [04:41] <Ehrehin> yet I know it's crooect
#442 [04:41] <Ehrehin> correct*
#443 [04:44] <Steve> then you'll have more luck in #help
#444 [04:45] <FireRat> doesnt it use ur email not nickname?
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#446 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> You /nick to your nickname, and verify with /msg nickserv identify password
#447 [04:45] <Steve> no
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#450 [04:59] * Hamish is listening to Real World '09 by Rob Thomas from Cradlesong.
#450 [05:01] <FireRat> When doing redstone and double doors is it always the door on the right that stays open?
#451 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how the door is placed
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#453 [05:03] <FireRat> what do u mean?
#454 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> It depends on which side of the block you place the door on, whether it opens in or out-wards
#455 [05:04] <FireRat> oh
#456 [05:04] * Hamish is listening to Believe by Rob Thomas from Cradlesong.
#456 [05:04] <Hamish> Great song
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#458 [05:22] <FireRat> seriously.. how high can spiders jump cause i just had one clear a 8 block high wall to kill me
#459 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> They can climb vertical surfaces
#460 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> (they're programmed to place a ladder where they climb up)
#461 [05:23] <FireRat> now thery are invisible ><
#462 [05:29] <FireRat> dang spiders... only thing I didn't think they would do would be jump over my wall...
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#464 [05:36] <RhuRhu> uhm hi?
#465 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#466 [05:36] <RhuRhu> ^-^ I uhm, have a question ;_; bout mcforge's imageprint
#467 [05:39] <lemon-rev> what about it, rhurhu
#468 [05:41] <FireRat> HA! Get in my base now spiders! Flaming walls of death!!
#469 [05:47] <Steve> GreyVulpine↳ wait, they have to use the ladder code to climb walls?
#470 [05:47] <Steve> ow.
#471 [05:47] * GreyVulpine nods
#471 [05:49] <_303> isOnLadder() {return isCollidedHorizontally;}
#472 [05:52] <Steve> <3 _303
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#475 [06:08] <ArchaicHeart> I have a rather noobish question, I suppose. How do I find the IP address of the multplayer server I created? Or at least I think I created.
#476 [06:08] <_303> !ip
#477 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Whatismyip.org
#478 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> ipchicken.net
#479 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> er, ipchicken.com
#480 [06:09] <ArchaicHeart> I believe I know who to find the IP of my laptop, but is it the same for my server?
#481 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> That'll give you your public IP, if your server is on the same LAN, it'll have the same public IP
#482 [06:10] <_303> if it's behind the same router you are on right now, 98.220.36.122
#483 [06:10] <ArchaicHeart> What I mean to say is, if I gave my friend my IP to my computer, and they useit in the multiplayer menu. It should let them into my server, correct?
#484 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> If you set it up correctly, yes
#485 [06:11] <ArchaicHeart> They say that the action 'timed out'
#486 [06:11] <ArchaicHeart> using my IP that I gave them
#487 [06:13] <ArchaicHeart> Hmm Well I shall try this tommorrow. If all goes well it should work. If not, look for me tomorrow!
#488 [06:13] <ArchaicHeart> Thank you and good night.
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#490 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#491 [06:20] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.281 seconds.
#492 [06:21] <Hamish> iOS
#493 [06:21] <Hamish> Is awesome
#494 [06:22] <Hamish> Hello
#495 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> Does it run minecraft?
#496 [06:22] <Hamish> Yes
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#499 [06:26] <gPad2002> Creative, yes
#500 [06:26] <gPad2002> Hamish: Also, fuck off with your advertising
#501 [06:26] <gPad2002> Never randomly PM people
#502 [06:26] <gPad2002> Like that
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#521 [08:07] <Elvang> Greetings
#522 [08:09] <Elvang> So, I was just put in charge of maintaining a server in the owners absence, and had a couple questions
#523 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#524 [08:09] <Elvang> The owner has been using "-Xms16000M -Xmx16000M" as args when launching it, shouldn't that number be MUCH higher if we have 16gb ram?
#525 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> That is 16 gigs.
#526 [08:10] <_303> wow
#527 [08:10] <Elvang> Ah, alright
#528 [08:10] <_303> also it's been recommended to me to drop -Xms entirely
#529 [08:10] <_303> can do more harm than good
#530 [08:10] <OODavo> That's actually a bit less than 16 gigs, but it's still pretty enormous.
#531 [08:11] <Elvang> Any idea what would cause java to segfault pretty reliably?
#532 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> Why would it? It mallocs the minimum amount...
#533 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> Elvang - I assume this is on a 64 bit system, running 64-bit java?
#534 [08:12] <Elvang> CentOS 64bit, Java 7 64bit
#535 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> As for possibilities of why it segfaults, I couldn't tell you. Haven't run a server with that much RAM. Maybe one of the AG guys knows more.
#536 [08:13] * GreyVulpine pokes AG_Clinton, AG_Elias, or AG_Scott
#536 [08:14] <_303> about -Xms http://pastebin.com/V9mmP57C
#537 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> Are you running just a plain vanilla server, or is it modded?
#538 [08:14] <Elvang> If its any help, it only started after we upgraded from 8gb to 16 gb. Before that, we were experiencing bouts of lag regardless of player count.
#539 [08:14] <Elvang> craftbukkit
#540 [08:16] <Elvang> _303: So omit -Xms, and only pass -Xmx?
#541 [08:17] <_303> that's what they say. doesn't matter much on my comp though
#542 [08:17] <Elvang> They both take numbers representing megabytes right?
#543 [08:17] <_303> M = megabyte
#544 [08:18] <Elvang> Alright
#545 [08:18] <_303> much time to be wasted reading up how to best tune performance using java command line options
#546 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> I don't know _303, it goes against a lot of what I've been taught with Java.
#547 [08:19] <everga> Hello I have question to local(offline) installation via Minecraft.exe on Windows 7
#548 [08:19] <everga> can anybody help me
#549 [08:19] <Elvang> Well, wouldn't telling java that the minimum memory to allocate is all the memory the server has bad?
#550 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> Setting a minimum -Xms heap size lets the java VM set a contiguous amount of RAM for the VM, decreasing the chances it'll need to reallocate when that size grows.
#551 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> If removing that argument, like Grum said, lets the garbage collector run more frequently, it'll add quite a bit of GC overhead.
#552 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> And I'll tell you, java's garbage collection overhead isn't something to overlook.
#553 [08:21] <Elvang> I don't doubt it
#554 [08:21] <Elvang> Hmm
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#556 [08:23] <Elvang> Could "-XX:ParallelGCThreads=2" cause problems?
#557 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> No, if you're running a multi-core or multi-processor server..
#558 [08:23] <luckz> I wouldn't assume it to
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#560 [08:24] <luckz> Elvang: but you realise you should use less than 16gb for java if you only have 16gb in the machine, yeah?
#561 [08:25] <Elvang> luckz: Yea, thats what my earlier question was implying :)
#562 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, but 16 gigs is not 16,000 MB
#563 [08:25] <luckz> the system does need a bit for other stuff :P
#564 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> It's 16384.
#565 [08:25] <luckz> and even if it's 16 777 216 or what, that memory could still be used by sql and web servers and other crap
#566 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> And since it's CentOS, you don't need a whole lot for the OS itself.
#567 [08:27] <luckz> Elvang: personally I'm experimenting with http://paste.pocoo.org/show/373825/ currently (trying to contrast it to http://paste.pocoo.org/show/373826/ )
#568 [08:29] <Elvang> Quite a few more args :)
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#570 [08:30] <_303> luckz: have you tried java 7? has a bunch new gc flags, like -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+DoEscapeAnalysis -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions
#571 [08:30] <luckz> _303: I am using some java7 only ones, I actually had to update my java7 build to get a good few of them to work
#572 [08:31] <luckz> I think compressed strings required it
#573 [08:31] <_303> ah nvm then
#574 [08:31] <luckz> and optimize string concat thingie
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#576 [08:31] <luckz> I forgot what the point of G1GC was, so I don't remember why I decided not to try it
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#578 [08:32] <luckz> I also haven't checked how my log file looks
#579 [08:32] <luckz> ah, it overwrites the log on every game start? :(
#580 [08:33] <luckz> guess I should add some "move log away" thing into my startup script
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#583 [08:49] <everga> Hello! Can anybody with how to start minecraft after installing it with minecraft.exe. I am using Windows 7?
#584 [08:51] * mib_c7fc7n [mib_c7fc7n@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#585 [08:51] <mib_c7fc7n> Hello
#586 [08:51] <mib_c7fc7n> Is anyone there?
#587 [08:52] <_303> natürlich
#588 [08:52] <mib_c7fc7n> Hello, I got a question
#589 [08:52] <mib_c7fc7n> I can even try in German
#590 [08:52] <mib_c7fc7n> lol
#591 [08:53] <everga> @mib_c7fc7n can you help me
#592 [08:54] <mib_c7fc7n> I need help myself, but what do you need?
#593 [08:54] <everga> how to start minecraft after installing via minecraft.exe
#594 [08:54] <everga> there is no executeable in the bin dir
#595 [08:54] <everga> after installing
#596 [08:54] <Elvang> You use minecraft.exe
#597 [08:55] <mib_c7fc7n> Guys
#598 [08:55] <mib_c7fc7n> I need help, I just started up minecraft, tried to login as always
#599 [08:55] <mib_c7fc7n> it says Login Failed
#600 [08:55] <mib_c7fc7n> Yesterday it worked just fine
#601 [08:57] <peru_> use this command
#602 [08:57] <peru_> !paid perunio
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#604 [08:58] <everga> have i login every time to start minecraft (offline play) ?
#605 [08:59] <mib_c7fc7n> !paid Chimster
#606 [08:59] <mib_c7fc7n> I have, but I still can't login
#607 [08:59] <mib_c7fc7n> yesterday it works fine
#608 [08:59] <mib_c7fc7n> worked
#609 [09:00] <peru_> everga, you can disconnect from internet if you want... there will be button to play offline after unsuccessful connection to minecraft.net (provided you have logged in at least once in the padt)
#610 [09:02] <everga> @peru what is a padt my english is not verry well
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#612 [09:05] <Elvang> everga: I think it was a typo, past*
#613 [09:05] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp : My server is running on server with 1,5Gb of ram, but i always get error: [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#614 [09:05] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :server launch command is: java -Xms768M -Xmx768M -jar craftbukkit.jar nogui
#615 [09:13] <everga> Now I understood how I works, minecraft first try to authenticate the user and I if could not because the connection is broken it offers off line play as an option. Thank you.
#616 [09:16] <everga> !paid everga
#617 [09:16] <everga> !paid PAG00
#618 [09:17] <everga> bye
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#621 [09:24] <Keltinray> !paid AuBot
#622 [09:24] <Keltinray> Awww, poor AuBot...
#623 [09:25] * oldtopmanserver is tempted to go buy a minecraft account with the name AuBot.
#623 [09:25] <oldtopmanserver> 0.0
#624 [09:25] <Keltinray> Hmm... I wonder if that's specific or generic...
#625 [09:25] * Keltinray pokes AuBot in the left shoulder
#625 [09:26] <m0nk> -ert-345-re-
#626 [09:26] <m0nk> didnt get kicked
#627 [09:26] <luckz> !paid -ert-345-re-
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#629 [09:36] <mib_c7fc7n> !paid m0nk
#630 [09:36] <mib_c7fc7n> !paid Chasl
#631 [09:36] <mib_c7fc7n> !paid Florianr
#632 [09:36] <mib_c7fc7n> !paid Chimster
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#634 [09:37] <mib_c7fc7n> !paid soroxd
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#644 [10:03] <Hakuzo_NightFox> ok, I reinstalled all the minecraft files, and seems I am still getting the exact same java error.
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#647 [10:09] <Hakuzo_NightFox> I've been searching and it seems like it may be a problem with my ATI video card?
#648 [10:16] <Hakuzo_NightFox> hrm... so Java does not play well with ATI video cards it seems :/
#649 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Only with some *nix distros
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#653 [10:32] <wheybags> wtf is this !paid thing
#654 [10:32] <wheybags> !paid wheybags
#655 [10:32] <wheybags> :O
#656 [10:32] <wheybags> can it check minecraft account names?
#657 [10:33] <Elvang> You mean, if the account exists?
#658 [10:33] <wheybags> and see if they exist => they have paid for minecraft
#659 [10:33] <Elvang> !paid elvang1
#660 [10:33] <Elvang> Guess not
#661 [10:33] <wheybags> ;_;
#662 [10:33] <Elvang> !paid Notch
#663 [10:33] * AuBot kicked Elvang from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
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#665 [10:33] <wheybags> :DD
#666 [10:33] <Elvang> Guess I'm not the first <_<
#667 [10:34] <wheybags> !paid !paid
#668 [10:34] <wheybags> aww
#669 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Don't use the bot to spam
#670 [10:34] <wheybags> was hoping it would register the !paid has not... etc as an !paid command
#671 [10:34] <wheybags> GreyVulpine: ;_;
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#679 [10:52] <dylan85> hello
#680 [10:53] <dylan85> can anyone help me with setting up a server?
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#683 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> dylan85 - What kind of help?
#684 [11:00] <dylan85> grey im trying to install minecraft server and run it but it comes up with java stuff and ive installed java
#685 [11:00] <Kealper> what sorts of java stuff?
#686 [11:01] <dylan85> check pm
#687 [11:02] * Kealper assumes that was meant for grey
#687 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> <dylan85> dylan@ubuntu-server:~/Downloads$ Java -jar minecraft.jar No command 'Java' found, did you mean: Command 'java' from package 'gcj-4.4-jre-headless' (main) Command 'java' from package 'openjdk-6-jre-headless' (main) Command 'java' from package 'gij-4.3' (universe) Command 'java' from package 'jamvm' (universe) Command 'java' from package 'cacao' (universe)
#688 [11:03] <Kealper> dylan85: use "java" instead of "Java"
#689 [11:03] <Kealper> linux is case-sensitive
#690 [11:03] <dylan85> ahk:)
#691 [11:03] <dylan85> forgot
#692 [11:05] <oldtopmanserver> Happenned to me at first
#693 [11:05] <dylan85> i think i still got errors
#694 [11:06] <Kealper> what does it say now? :/
#695 [11:06] <oldtopmanserver> dylan85: Pastebin please.
#696 [11:06] <wheybags> dylan85: if you want to set up aserver, then get the proper server jar O.o
#697 [11:06] <wheybags> why are you tring to run minecraft.jar
#698 [11:06] <Kealper> wheybags: you
#699 [11:06] <Kealper> wheybags: are a ninja for catching that
#700 [11:06] <dylan85> i got this server jar from the server page
#701 [11:06] <Kealper> minecraft.jar is the game, unless you renamed it
#702 [11:07] <wheybags> yep
#703 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#704 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page is the server software
#705 [11:07] <dylan85> haha i got the wrong thing
#706 [11:07] <Kealper> !server :/
#707 [11:07] <dylan85> one sec
#708 [11:07] <dylan85> i didnt see thje bottom
#709 [11:07] <wheybags> and run it with the command they give you
#710 [11:08] <wheybags> i suggest putting it in it's own folder as it will make a bunch of iles
#711 [11:08] <wheybags> *files
#712 [11:08] <wheybags> and i also suggest making a script out of the command at the bottom of the page
#713 [11:08] <dylan85> server is loading
#714 [11:08] <dylan85> :)
#715 [11:08] <wheybags> :D
#716 [11:08] <wheybags> lan or online?
#717 [11:09] <wheybags> coz if you set online=false in the config file, then people can join from play offline mode
#718 [11:09] <wheybags> but only on lan, obviously
#719 [11:10] <dylan85> we are having a lan in 2 nights
#720 [11:10] <Kealper> that's not how that command works
#721 [11:10] <Kealper> online-mode determines whether the server checks if the people who try to connect have paid for the game or not
#722 [11:10] <dylan85> but everyone joins as player
#723 [11:11] <wheybags> Kealper: i know what it does
#724 [11:11] <dylan85> so you have to pay
#725 [11:11] <wheybags> was just saying because it's useful
#726 [11:12] <wheybags> dylan85: no, but everyone in "play offline" mode will be called Player
#727 [11:12] <wheybags> and the server only allows one instance of every player name
#728 [11:12] <wheybags> so only one "Player"#
#729 [11:13] <wheybags> i understand you can hex edit something somewhere to change the default name and get around this for lan oarties
#730 [11:13] <wheybags> dunno how, though
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#733 [11:15] <Adventure_time> sup guys
#734 [11:15] <wheybags> o hai
#735 [11:15] <dylan85> yer
#736 [11:15] <dylan85> so we all buy it so it dont matter what mode its in
#737 [11:15] <wheybags> dylan85: oh, ok
#738 [11:15] <Adventure_time> anyone got an update on the 1.5 patch ive been in a daze for the past week or so >.>
#739 [11:15] <wheybags> obviously, online mode will allow people to connect from the internet too :D
#740 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> Adventure_time - It'll be released sometime this week
#741 [11:19] <dylan85> WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#742 [11:19] <dylan85> whats that mean its not overlaoded
#743 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> How often do you get that?
#744 [11:21] <dylan85> its only happened twice in like 10 mins
#745 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Then it's nothing to be concerned about.
#746 [11:22] <dylan85> sweet
#747 [11:22] <dylan85> its working
#748 [11:23] <Adventure_time> i think that means the the processor and/or ram had was being taxed heavily so it can cause lag
#749 [11:23] <Adventure_time> it happens to my host comp sometimes
#750 [11:23] <Adventure_time> if the processor gets above 90% it will say that and lag for a sec
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#759 [11:45] <Kealper> Kitler.....lol
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#761 [11:46] <Kitler> Sieg Miaow
#762 [11:47] <Kealper> lol
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#768 [12:28] <bokaholic> Morning, minecraft helpers.
#769 [12:28] * bokaholic hugs the helpers randomly.
#769 [12:30] <ICE_de> hi all! i have a question about monster spawn on an smp multiplayer server... i´ve built a monster spawner just a few layers above bedrock and when i stand in my collection pit all monsters stop spawning in my rooms around my pit, when i go a few blocks upstairs and look into the dark rooms they almost instantly start to spawn :( anyone has a clue what can cause this?
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#771 [12:33] <ertyuiop99> fogWraith
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#773 [12:35] <toasten> hi, anyone knows a way to "recover" the randomseed, my level.dat got corrupted und making a new with a different seed causes some ugly borders when entering new generated parts of teh world
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#775 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> ICE - With Spawners, they only spawn within
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#777 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> a certain radius, with you nearby
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#779 [12:37] <ICE_de> i don´t have spawn-blocks in my structure, just dark rooms... about 90blocks long 30blocks wide dark rooms in 2 directions
#780 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> toasten - Try http://mc.42nex.us/
#781 [12:38] <toasten> will do :)
#782 [12:38] <ICE_de> nearby caves are lit up, monsters just don´t spawn when i stand in my collection pit :(
#783 [12:38] <Inuyasha10121> Hello. I have a question about making a mod with ModLoader. Is this the proper place to ask this? Sorry, a bit new to the IRC channels.
#784 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Ooo, okay then. ICE_de, then Monsters don't spawn any closer than 24 blocks
#785 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Inuyasha10121 - You'll be better off asking in #risucraft.
#786 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> They're more experienced there.
#787 [12:39] <Inuyasha10121> Thanks!
#788 [12:41] <ICE_de> i think i´ve read that, but as i said, the halls are up to 90 blocks away, 3 floors up from my position, shouldnt that be plenty of room to let monsters spawn there? when i move around the spawn all ower in that dark places, but when i´m on my collection pit just about 6 blocks down from first spawning floor nothing spawns :(
#789 [12:42] <toasten> GreyVulpine: nice site, but unfortunatly not what i can use, as my level.dat is complete empty
#790 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> toasten - That's.. not good.
#791 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> ICE_de - Do you have anything to channel them off to a pit?
#792 [12:43] <ICE_de> i think the creepers hate me :)
#793 [12:43] <toasten> yeah, only way to think of is some "bruteforce"-method, hoped anyone has got something like that
#794 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> If the level.dat file is empty, there's really no way to get the seed.
#795 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> It's where the seed would be kept
#796 [12:44] <ICE_de> yep, the first floor is completely flooded to transport mobs from 2-3 upper levels above to a drowning pit
#797 [12:44] <ICE_de> that all works flawlessly when i run around while i carve that holes out, but as soon as i stand still in my collectin pit the spawn stops
#798 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#799 [12:45] <toasten> sounds like they only spawn, when they can here you walking :D
#800 [12:45] <ICE_de> i made a railway through one of the floors, as long as i ride that they spawn like hell... :(
#801 [12:46] <ICE_de> but like i said, as soon as i´m in my collection spot only currently spawned mobs are drown and nothing new spawns :(
#802 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, really the only requirements for mob spawning, are that they only spawn in dim-no light, and no closer than 24 blocks from you
#803 [12:49] <ICE_de> hmm :( , i currently have 2 wings built away from my pit when i just walk in one wing and back to the center the other wing has spawnt 3-4 monster packs... i hate it :/
#804 [12:50] <ICE_de> perhaps i should make a video of it, it´s hard to explain how exactly this is built
#805 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> If you wish, sure.
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#807 [12:52] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#808 [12:54] <toasten> in the server.properties-file do the "classic-keys" work in an beta-server?
#809 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> That's not a normal field, in either classic or beta.
#810 [12:55] <toasten> for example motd
#811 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> motd is a classic-only argument
#812 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> Unless you mod your beta server
#813 [12:55] <toasten> ok, thx
#814 [12:56] <Kitten> VoxelHead: I'm right here
#815 [12:57] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: your master is dead
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#817 [13:00] <barul> hi
#818 [13:00] <barul> did anyone already try the planes mod?
#819 [13:01] <_303> plenty have
#820 [13:01] <_303> why do you ask?
#821 [13:02] <ertyuiop99> I tried v2, thats it
#822 [13:02] <barul> dunno, i think it was a bad reflex
#823 [13:02] <ertyuiop99> It's a little uncomfortable to ride in the plane if you know what I mean
#824 [13:02] <barul> i wanna know it because I just installed it, and my planes don't move
#825 [13:03] <barul> i even modified my plane.properties, but it did nothing
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#827 [13:03] <_303> to #risucraft with you
#828 [13:03] <ertyuiop99> Delete the bin folder and give it a clean instalation
#829 [13:03] <_303> no mod help provided here
#830 [13:04] <barul> sorry, I didn't know, I'm in
#831 [13:25] <Vector> hm
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#833 [13:28] <mermi> hello world of minecraft I have a few questions that I have not been able to find an answer to on the other boards and I am hoping I can at least get an Idea of where and what to do.
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#835 [13:29] <sqlut> hello
#836 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#837 [13:29] <mermi> First is it possible to make a larger floating craft other then the "one man" boat that is currently available?
#838 [13:29] <xolotl> mermi: Not without mods
#839 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> ^
#840 [13:30] <mermi> ok haw does one find such a mod and will it still work with the existing game?
#841 [13:31] <sqlut> i'm a mapper from a free open source game called AssaultCube , based on the Cube engine and i would know if Minecraft texture can be used for one of my maps like this http://i22.servimg.com/u/f22/15/62/73/68/20110414.jpg
#842 [13:31] <xolotl> mermi: You could look around the forums, or try #risucraft or, I guess #mcmods
#843 [13:31] <xolotl> mermi: Mods aren't really supported in this chnanel
#844 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Also, http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=93171
#845 [13:31] <sqlut> Of course it's not for getting money at all (as i said it's a free game)
#846 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> List of mods
#847 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> You may want to check out: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=178612
#848 [13:32] <xolotl> sqlut: You'd want to talk to Mojang about that; this channel is "official" but we rarely see actual Mojang folks in here
#849 [13:32] * GreyVulpine coughs and nudges xolotl.
#849 [13:32] <mermi> second question if it possible to create your own world in minecraft and still have it work?
#850 [13:33] * xolotl receives a nudge from GreyVulpine and looks around
#850 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> There are a few map editors available for minecraft.
#851 [13:33] * GreyVulpine points to a certain @
#851 [13:33] <sqlut> Ok thanks @xolotl
#852 [13:33] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: You're Mojang folk?
#853 [13:33] * GreyVulpine shakes
#853 [13:33] <sqlut> bye all have a good day
#854 [13:33] <VoxelHead> no thanks, i already have some
#855 [13:33] * xolotl butchers English, just a bit.
#855 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> There's one @ on here, who doesn't talk.
#856 [13:34] <mermi> I assume that with all the "coughing and nudging that these are "tabbo" subjects here
#857 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Nah, what I mean is, with xolotl's statement that there's no Mojang folk here... isn't entirely true.
#858 [13:34] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Ah right. Well perhaps I should have amended to say that Mojang folk don't often *interact* in here. :)
#859 [13:35] * GreyVulpine nods and grins.
#859 [13:35] <xolotl> :)
#860 [13:35] <VoxelHead> =]
#861 [13:35] <mermi> ok
#862 [13:35] <xolotl> (and actually I hadn't noticed mollstam anyway. :)
#863 [13:37] <Vector> hm
#864 [13:37] <Vector> hello #minecrafthelp
#865 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#867 [13:37] <Vector> hey @GreyVulpine
#868 [13:37] <mermi> ok one final question how can one be sure of what version of minecraft is running when you sign on?
#869 [13:37] <Vector> top left of the screen, mermi
#870 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell you in the upper left corner
#871 [13:38] <Vector> err, minecraft window*
#872 [13:38] <Vector> not screen
#873 [13:38] <mermi> ok thanks
#874 [13:38] <Vector> ;p
#875 [13:38] <Vector> VoxelHead, give me some lovin' :P
#876 [13:38] * VoxelHead gives Vector some lovin'
#876 [13:38] <mermi> have a great one happy mining
#877 [13:38] <Vector> YAY
#878 [13:38] <ertyuiop99> Just made an exploding cow mod:)
#879 [13:39] <ertyuiop99> "Lets go milk the cow, *walks over* Sssssss... WHATTHFUCK!"
#880 [13:40] <Vector> LOL
#881 [13:40] <LargePrime> lol
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#884 [13:48] <ertyuiop99> FOGWRAITH
#885 [13:48] <VoxelHead> o_O
#886 [13:48] <ertyuiop99> CHRIS!
#887 [13:49] <ertyuiop99> Oh come on, I know your in sweden, chris, but can't you stay up later? =(
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#889 [13:54] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :My server is running on server with 1,5Gb of ram, but i always get error: [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? (max players is set to 10)
#890 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> How often?
#891 [13:58] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :when server starts, after 5-10~mins
#892 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Constant?
#893 [14:02] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :yes
#894 [14:02] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp : server launch command is: java -Xms768M -Xmx768M -jar craftbukkit.jar nogui
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#896 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> You're only launching it with 768 megs of RAM
#897 [14:04] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :i know
#898 [14:05] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :even i launch with 1g of ram, i got same error
#899 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Do you get many of these errors in a row, or just every once in a while?
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#901 [14:06] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :many
#902 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, then the server is most likely being overloaded
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#907 [14:18] <dolseni> anybody know a server (any type) without lag? I don't know if something is messed up on my end or what. EVERY server i've tried to join has problems. I get disconnected CONSTANTLY if things even load to begin with. I've never been able to talk on a server or use any of their commands (/rules for example)
#908 [14:19] <Kealper> dolseni: hmm...has it ever worked correctly?
#909 [14:19] <Kealper> or did you just recently buy it?
#910 [14:20] <dolseni> just bought it
#911 [14:20] <dolseni> single player works fine
#912 [14:20] <Kealper> ahh, well you are probably having an issue that came with 1.3, the 1.5 update that is due out in the next few days should fix that lag issue :/
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#914 [14:23] <dolseni> also i've had some weird issues of minecraft just closing when i change the window size
#915 [14:23] <relsqui> Kealper: do we know 1.5 is coming this week?
#916 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> It is
#917 [14:23] <relsqui> cool.
#918 [14:23] <Kealper> Notch already said it would be
#919 [14:23] <VoxelHead> coooooooooool.
#920 [14:23] <Kealper> dolseni: that sounds like Minecraft might be crashing for whatever reason....are you resizing the window larger or smaller when it happens?
#921 [14:24] <dolseni> happens both ways
#922 [14:24] <dolseni> usually when i maximize it
#923 [14:24] <Kealper> randomly or consistently?
#924 [14:24] <dolseni> happens more often than not
#925 [14:24] <dolseni> but not EVERY time
#926 [14:24] <Kealper> hmm..what are your computer's specs?
#927 [14:25] <Vector> dolseni
#928 [14:25] <Vector> what is your network card, by any chance?
#929 [14:26] <dolseni> 2ghz processor, 1.5gb ram, video card is a bit older but was good when I got it... forget what it is off the top of my head
#930 [14:26] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :this is normal: http://pastebin.com/ejLiARXL ? :]
#931 [14:27] <dolseni> Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
#932 [14:27] <Vector> oh wow
#933 [14:27] <dolseni> is my network card
#934 [14:27] <Vector> let me check mine again
#935 [14:27] <dolseni> ancient, i know
#936 [14:27] <Kealper> the issue with lag does not appear to be tied to any specific NIC
#937 [14:27] <Kealper> infact, it doesn't appear to be tied to anything :/
#938 [14:27] <Vector> i have a Fast Ethernet Adapter too
#939 [14:28] <Vector> it's a VIA Rhine II
#940 [14:28] <Kealper> "Fast Ethernet" just means atleast 100mbit/s
#941 [14:28] <Vector> ok
#942 [14:28] <dolseni> also have some onboard nvidia stuff that I've never used, heh
#943 [14:28] <dolseni> NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
#944 [14:28] <Kealper> "nVidia nForce Networking Controler"?
#945 [14:28] <Kealper> lol
#946 [14:28] <VoxelHead> I like edam best of all
#947 [14:28] <Vector> Kealper, some people get this lag, and others don't
#948 [14:29] <Vector> meaning it's tied to something ;/
#949 [14:29] <Kealper> Vector: i know, i know of the lag he is getting, and we're not sure what causes it at all :/
#950 [14:29] <dolseni> nvidia geforce 8500 GT is my graphics card
#951 [14:29] <Kealper> it can practically happen on two of the exact same computers :/
#952 [14:29] <Vector> And how does Notch know that 1.5 is going to fix it? He needs proof from someone using a computer that is afflicted in the 1.3-1.4_01 versions of minecraft
#953 [14:30] <Vector> unless he has proof
#954 [14:30] <Kealper> Vector: because they have apparently figured out what the cause is
#955 [14:30] <Vector> oh nice
#956 [14:30] <Kealper> but this channel is just community members, so we don't know everything that goes on with Mojang
#957 [14:30] <dolseni> any clue what could be causing the crashing though?
#958 [14:31] <Kealper> dolseni: try this
#959 [14:31] <Vector> well hopefully a mojang employee comes around and makes it known
#960 [14:31] <Kealper> hmm..forgot the command...
#961 [14:31] <Vector> what is meant by the AG_ prefix on those three voiced users?
#962 [14:31] <Kealper> screw it, dolseni do you know how to make a new windows user account?
#963 [14:31] <Kealper> Vector: AllGamer staff
#964 [14:31] <Vector> oh
#965 [14:31] <dolseni> yeah
#966 [14:31] <Vector> cool
#967 [14:31] <Kealper> Vector: http://allgamer.net
#968 [14:32] <Kealper> hosting company that is quite good for Minecraft servers
#969 [14:32] <Kealper> hmm
#970 [14:32] <Vector> nice
#971 [14:32] <Kealper> who was it that sent that pastebin?
#972 [14:32] * Kealper scrolls up
#972 [14:33] <Kealper> UnknownHero: uhh....how big is that world? lol
#973 [14:33] <dolseni> kealper, what did you want me to do?
#974 [14:33] <Kealper> UnknownHero: also...how slow/crappy is the computer that is hosting the server >.>
#975 [14:33] <Kealper> dolseni: do you know how to make a new windows user account?
#976 [14:33] <dolseni> yeha
#977 [14:33] <Kealper> make a new one, and try playing minecraft on that and see if it crashes or not
#978 [14:34] <Kealper> it could be some user settings in your current windows profile that is messing with stuff
#979 [14:34] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper i now see
#980 [14:35] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :when i run the server, he using 100% cpu
#981 [14:35] <Vector> video card settings would most likely be the culprit, I see no reason for Windows itself to be the culprit
#982 [14:36] <Kealper> UnknownHero: that is fairly normal when it starts loading the map, but how big is the "world" folder that it is loading?
#983 [14:36] <Vector> and yet it's only attributed to minecraft
#984 [14:36] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :the "computer" is vds server, with 1,5gb of ram, and 1,5core from i7 920
#985 [14:36] <Kealper> Vector: you'd be surprized how picky/retarded Java can be
#986 [14:36] <Vector> lol
#987 [14:36] <Vector> well
#988 [14:36] <Vector> it apparently doesn't handle crossfire well
#989 [14:36] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper there is no folders ;]
#990 [14:37] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :just minecraft.jar
#991 [14:37] <Kealper> the issue with user accounts is common enough for VoxelHead to have an entry about..but i forgot it :/
#992 [14:37] <Vector> some dude was in here a couple days ago with crossfire technology, said minecraft kept crashing
#993 [14:37] <Kealper> UnknownHero: there should be a folder called "world" along with the minecraft_server.jar :/
#994 [14:38] <Kealper> Vector: crossfire/sli has been known to cause problems in certain games, but i doubt he has two geforce 8500s in sli :/
#995 [14:38] <Vector> well i'm not sure what cards the guy had
#996 [14:39] <Kealper> ati cards if it was crossfire
#997 [14:39] <Vector> you're a hardware guy ;o
#998 [14:39] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper but server is "running" i just downloaded file http://minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar :)
#999 [14:39] <Kealper> and software lol
#1000 [14:39] <Vector> heh
#1001 [14:39] <VoxelHead> =D
#1002 [14:39] <Vector> you have a degree?
#1003 [14:39] <Kealper> UnknownHero: it creates a bunch of config files and a world folder when you run it for the first time
#1004 [14:40] <Kealper> Vector: no, but i would if i could afford it :/
#1005 [14:40] <Vector> lol
#1006 [14:40] <Vector> i'm more of a software than a hardware guy
#1007 [14:40] <Vector> ;\
#1008 [14:40] <Kealper> Vector: but i do freelance computer repair, and i program crap as a hobby lol
#1009 [14:40] <Vector> oh nice
#1010 [14:40] <Vector> i program as a hobby too
#1011 [14:42] <dolseni> Kealper: tried it on a new user account, same issues
#1012 [14:42] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :root@a21:~/testmc# du -hs world/
#1013 [14:42] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :692K world/
#1014 [14:42] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :this size? :]
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#1016 [14:43] <Jobla> I have just found Obsidian, can i use or make it to somthing?
#1017 [14:43] <Jobla> like a tool
#1018 [14:43] <dolseni> jobla, can't make a tool out of it but you can use it for other things
#1019 [14:43] <Jobla> Like decoration?
#1020 [14:44] <dolseni> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Obsidian
#1021 [14:44] <Jobla> im from norway, not so good in english :p
#1022 [14:45] <dolseni> Decoration, portals to The Nether, and it is explosion resistant
#1023 [14:46] <Vector> your english is better than a lot of other peoples
#1024 [14:47] <dolseni> jobla's english is much better than my japanese....
#1025 [14:47] <Jobla> :p
#1026 [14:47] <Vector> a few people who aren't native english speakers say their english is bae
#1027 [14:47] <Vector> bad*
#1028 [14:47] <Vector> I can say that none of them were right......
#1029 [14:48] <Jobla> :)
#1030 [14:48] <Vector> they speak it better than they think
#1031 [14:48] <VoxelHead> ^_^
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#1033 [14:48] <Kealper> ok back
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#1035 [14:48] <Jobla> I have seen on youtube, mincraft alpha, ther can they make obsidian axe and pick axe :p
#1036 [14:49] <Jobla> Maby minecraft peolpe make it?
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#1038 [14:49] <Jobla> People*
#1039 [14:49] <dolseni> wood, stone, iron, gold, and diamond are the only tools you can make on minecraft without using mods
#1040 [14:49] <Jobla> Try to make it again, to make axe and somthing like that :D
#1041 [14:49] <ionface> obsidian is as brittle as glass
#1042 [14:50] <dolseni> and as sharp as diamonds
#1043 [14:50] <Kealper> UnknownHero: yeah, that's a fairly big map to be loading on what is probably an overworked VPS :/
#1044 [14:50] <ionface> but diamonds are the hardest metal known to man
#1045 [14:50] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1045 [14:50] <Jobla> y
#1046 [14:50] <dolseni> i thought the hardest metal known to man was dragonforce
#1047 [14:51] <Kealper> UnknownHero: actually...wait, i probably misread that...
#1048 [14:51] <dolseni> or *insert other heavy metal band*
#1049 [14:52] <Kealper> UnknownHero: ok nevermind, if that is 692KB, then that is unusually slow load times for such a small map....
#1050 [14:53] <dolseni> off to work
#1051 [14:54] <Kealper> dolseni: if you haven't already, reinstalling graphics drivers and Java could probably fix the crashing issues
#1052 [14:54] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: i bought KF :o
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#1054 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1055 [14:55] <Kealper> well, am buying right now
#1056 [14:57] <Vector> maybe update your graphics drivers
#1057 [14:57] <Vector> if there is an update for them
#1058 [15:00] * Kealper does his part for GLaDOS@Home by playing more AudioSurf
#1058 [15:01] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :http://pastebin.com/ukkBxsmQ bam
#1059 [15:02] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Now runned with 1280Mb ram
#1060 [15:02] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :CPU is overloaded, but ram ussage is 143x/1536
#1061 [15:03] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :is some way to solve the problem?
#1062 [15:03] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :or i need buy better vds with better cpu? ;)
#1063 [15:05] <Kealper> well
#1064 [15:05] <Kealper> the issue is probably what that host is using for virtualization software
#1065 [15:06] <Kealper> it's probably OpenVZ, and there are probably atleast like 50 other virtual servers running on that one machine :/
#1066 [15:06] <UnknownHero> 4e3d:b044::4e3d:b044 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Openvz, but others is about 20-25~ :)
#1067 [15:07] <Kealper> if you are looking for a good host for a game server, get one that uses Xen
#1068 [15:07] <Kealper> OpenVZ is garbage for doing stuff like Minecraft servers
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#1070 [15:08] <ICE_de> GreyVulpine, i´ve built a minetrack below my collection pit that circles just around my sight-seeing windows to the dark lairs... now the monster spawn continously... strange thing.
#1071 [15:16] <VoxelHead> Bye ertyuiop99.
#1072 [15:18] <bread> hi vox
#1073 [15:18] <VoxelHead> =D
#1074 [15:18] <bread> :D
#1075 [15:18] <VoxelHead> :-)
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#1078 [15:30] <AG_Scott> Kealper: more like 250. :P
#1079 [15:30] <Kealper> AG_Scott: i was being extremely conservative lol
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#1085 [15:56] <Vector> no you're not voxel, you never are afk
#1086 [15:56] <Vector> WAKE UP
#1087 [15:57] <bread> vox, come back!
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#1092 [16:11] <fizyplankton> !check
#1093 [16:11] <fizyplankton> can someone try to connect to 74.166.109.199?
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#1095 [16:19] <h> !paid moma
#1096 [16:19] <h> !paid allevis
#1097 [16:20] <h> !paid thefailship
#1098 [16:20] <h> !paid allevis
#1099 [16:20] <h> !paid mudkip
#1100 [16:20] <Kealper> stop spamming :/
#1101 [16:20] <_303_> !paid botabuse
#1102 [16:20] <h> im not abusing
#1103 [16:20] <h> it wont check allevis.
#1104 [16:20] <Kealper> because you're doing it too fast...setting off it's spam filter
#1105 [16:20] <Kealper> hence, spam
#1106 [16:21] <h> HERP
#1107 [16:21] <h> !paid allevis
#1108 [16:21] <h> good
#1109 [16:21] <h> im done
#1110 [16:21] <bread> H E R P
#1111 [16:21] <Kealper> alternatively.... typing /msg AuBot !paid somename works too
#1112 [16:21] <h> ^only usefull awsner. THAKNS :DDD
#1113 [16:22] <bread> :|
#1114 [16:22] <h> <mudkip> [INFO] WorldEdit: allevis: /set torch
#1115 [16:22] <h> <mudkip> thats all the log shows.
#1116 [16:22] <h> FUUUUUU torches all up in base
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#1118 [16:25] <fizyplankton> can someone try to connect to 74.166.109.199?
#1119 [16:26] <Kealper> stuck on logging in
#1120 [16:27] <fizyplankton> what os are you on?
#1121 [16:27] <h> fizyplankton; may i check if your minecraft port is open?
#1122 [16:27] <Kealper> it's open
#1123 [16:27] <h> oh.
#1124 [16:28] <fizyplankton> h i have creative servers running fine. i can guarrentee that the ports are right
#1125 [16:28] <h> yeah sorry. I have no idea what vould be wrong
#1126 [16:28] <fizyplankton> Kealper: what os are you on?
#1127 [16:28] <Kealper> fizyplankton: stop the server, go into the server.properties and change online-mode to false, save, start server again
#1128 [16:28] <Kealper> fizyplankton: windows 7 but java is pretty much platform-independant, it runs on just about anything :/
#1129 [16:29] <fizyplankton> k its back up
#1130 [16:29] <h> Does it work local?
#1131 [16:29] <fizyplankton> yes
#1132 [16:29] <Kealper> still stuck at logging in, it's using the default port, right?
#1133 [16:30] <fizyplankton> yeah. i can see you too stuck in midair
#1134 [16:30] <fizyplankton> i have another irea
#1135 [16:30] <Kealper> the server's console did say like "****WARNING: SREVER IS RUNNING IN OFFLINE MODE" or something like that, right?
#1136 [16:30] <fizyplankton> yeah. but i have a theory
#1137 [16:31] <Kealper> and port 25565 is not being used on another IP that is bindable on that machine, right?
#1138 [16:31] <Kealper> wait
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#1140 [16:31] <fizyplankton> i got the port forwarding right. i can guarentee you
#1141 [16:31] <Kealper> nvm, it would not have let me get that far if that was the case
#1142 [16:32] <Kealper> i wasn't referring to port forwarding
#1143 [16:32] <Razorflame> Anyone able to help me prevent my computer from overheating while playing MC?
#1144 [16:32] <Razorflame> I've already done everything to prevent it, yet it still happens
#1145 [16:32] <Kealper> Razorflame: very very carefully us ea vacuum to clean the inside of the computer
#1146 [16:32] <Kealper> use a*
#1147 [16:32] <Kealper> very
#1148 [16:32] <Kealper> can't stress that word enough...lol
#1149 [16:32] <fizyplankton> now try the server
#1150 [16:32] <Razorflame> I already used compressed air to clean it out
#1151 [16:33] <Razorflame> This is a laptop, by the way
#1152 [16:33] <Kealper> Razorflame: laptop? desktop? if desktop: custom-built or ordered from a company?
#1153 [16:33] <Razorflame> laptop
#1154 [16:33] <Kealper> oh, try setting it on an angle, so some air can get moving underneath it
#1155 [16:33] <dolseni_phone> what are the mats to craft compressed air?
#1156 [16:34] <Kealper> dolseni_phone: i hope you were not serious with that question ._.
#1157 [16:34] <Kealper> fizyplankton: still timed out
#1158 [16:34] <Razorflame> Yeah, I tried putting something underneath it to boost the back-end up a little to get air going underneath it
#1159 [16:34] <fizyplankton> now try it
#1160 [16:34] <Razorflame> Still overheated
#1161 [16:35] <Razorflame> I'm thinking about moving my MC operation to a desktop
#1162 [16:35] <Kealper> Razorflame: when you say overheated...what do you mean exactly? what does it do when it "overheats"?
#1163 [16:35] <Razorflame> Whenever it overheats, the computer shuts off automatically
#1164 [16:35] <Razorflame> no matter what I'm doing
#1165 [16:35] <fizyplankton> i still have more ideas
#1166 [16:36] <Kealper> Razorflame: oh, that's definately not good if it is shutting itself off
#1167 [16:36] <Razorflame> I know
#1168 [16:36] <Razorflame> It only does it
#1169 [16:36] <Kealper> Razorflame: yeah, i'm thinking move to a different computer, it sounds like that laptop has super insanely bad airflow across the heatsink(s)
#1170 [16:37] <Razorflame> Well, it works fine for anything else
#1171 [16:37] <Razorflame> But after about 30 minutes of playing MC, it begins to vent lots of hot air
#1172 [16:37] <Kealper> Razorflame: have you tried any other games on it? or programs like Prime95?
#1173 [16:37] <Kealper> Razorflame: ahh
#1174 [16:37] <Razorflame> Yeah, Oblivion does the same thing
#1175 [16:37] <Razorflame> after about an hour
#1176 [16:37] <fizyplankton> alright now try it
#1177 [16:37] <Razorflame> Most other things work fine
#1178 [16:38] <Razorflame> just those two games that cause this problem
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#1181 [16:38] <Kealper> Razorflame: sounds like it's just the combination of maxing the GPU and CPU causes it to generate more heat than it can get rid of :/
#1182 [16:38] <Razorflame> eh
#1183 [16:38] <Kealper> fizyplankton: are you running any mods on that?
#1184 [16:38] <fizyplankton> none
#1185 [16:38] <Razorflame> back to idling
#1186 [16:40] <ICE_de> hmm anyone have a clue why this booster works a few minutes for my round-track and then just slows my cart down? http://img233.imageshack.us/i/20110418223422.png/
#1187 [16:40] <dolseni_phone> i need to find a way for minecraft to run on my android phone... stuck at work with MC on my mind
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#1189 [16:41] <Kealper> ICE_de: how is the whole setup? is it multiplayer or single player?
#1190 [16:41] <bread> dolseni_phone: minecraft is being ported to android, afaik
#1191 [16:41] <dolseni_phone> sweet
#1192 [16:41] <ICE_de> standard SMP
#1193 [16:41] <Kealper> android and ios is being worked on at Mojang
#1194 [16:41] <bread> meh why ios
#1195 [16:41] <bread> moar like iPOOP
#1196 [16:41] <dolseni_phone> screw apple
#1197 [16:41] <Kealper> no word on release date, and i haven't bothered asking them :/
#1198 [16:42] <ICE_de> it boosts my card just fine, but after a few minutes the booster cart is on the wrong side and slows my cart down
#1199 [16:42] <Razorflame> Seeing as how MC now has Cocoa Beans, does this mean that Notch is in the process of possibly making Hot Chocolate available in MC?
#1200 [16:43] <dolseni_phone> have you tried adding the cocoa to a bucket of milk
#1201 [16:43] <Razorflame> nope
#1202 [16:43] <Razorflame> :D
#1203 [16:43] <Kealper> no
#1204 [16:43] <Kealper> cocoa beans are currently used for making brown dye
#1205 [16:43] <Razorflame> ah :)
#1206 [16:44] <relsqui> also cookies!
#1207 [16:44] <AG_Scott> He should add coffee.
#1208 [16:44] <Kealper> oh, are they used for cookies too? i haven't checked the recipe for them yet lol
#1209 [16:44] <AG_Scott> and a civet mob to poop out the coffee beans.
#1210 [16:45] <fizyplankton> try it now
#1211 [16:46] <dolseni_phone> know if there are any plans to port MC to anything other than java so that it runs better?
#1212 [16:47] <bread> lol I wish
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#1214 [16:47] <bread> java is poop for games :<
#1215 [16:47] <jakemb> Hello?
#1216 [16:47] <Kealper> there is already too much work put in to it to port the whole thing to a different langauge
#1217 [16:48] <Kealper> jakemb: hi
#1218 [16:48] <Kealper> the only real issue with Java is that it's a resource hog :/
#1219 [16:48] <jakemb> o hi i juat joined so can someone exlain what is goin on?
#1220 [16:49] <Kealper> jakemb: someone asked if Mojang planned on porting Minecraft to a different programming language
#1221 [16:49] <fizyplankton> Kealper: try iy now
#1222 [16:49] <jakemb> so it would not be in english?
#1223 [16:49] <Kealper> fizyplankton: still nothing...has it worked before?
#1224 [16:49] <fizyplankton> yes
#1225 [16:50] <Kealper> jakemb: it would still be in english lol, it was a more technical question...
#1226 [16:50] <bread> Java is horribly inefficient for games.
#1227 [16:50] <Kealper> jakemb: he was talking about the computer language that Minecraft is made in
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#1229 [16:50] <bread> A game that looks like Minecraft should run flawlessly on my super shitty laptop
#1230 [16:51] <jakemb> o ok i love minecraft im totally obsessed!
#1231 [16:51] <bread> But I don't ever get more than 5fps. >:|
#1232 [16:51] <fizyplankton> ok. this will either work, or severly crash my computer. or both!
#1233 [16:51] <_303> bread: tried optimine?
#1234 [16:51] <Kealper> bread: 1.5 has occlusion culling, that might help with crappy computers :/
#1235 [16:51] <Coll> really Kealper
#1236 [16:51] <Coll> awesome as shit
#1237 [16:51] <Coll> yeah
#1238 [16:53] <fizyplankton> try it now
#1239 [16:53] <jakemb> is this for ideas and or telling people what is going on in minecraft?
#1240 [16:53] <Kealper> fizyplankton: why can't you just try with your external ip? lol
#1241 [16:53] <Kealper> jakemb: which?
#1242 [16:53] <fizyplankton> i AM i am connected from external ip, not loaclhost
#1243 [16:53] <jakemb> either
#1244 [16:53] <Kealper> fizyplankton: and it works for you? O.o
#1245 [16:54] <fizyplankton> yes
#1246 [16:54] <Kealper> jakemb: occlusion culling to increase performance is something that is actually being worked on, the different programming language thing was something that isn't going to happen
#1247 [16:54] <Kealper> fizyplankton: that's.....strange
#1248 [16:54] <Kealper> fizyplankton: i have no idea
#1249 [16:54] <jakemb> o
#1250 [16:54] <bread> _303: I have not heard of that :O /me tries it now
#1251 [16:55] <jakemb> Kealper: o sry i have no idea what is going on really
#1252 [16:55] <Kealper> bread: there are a fe wdifferent things, like optimine and optifog
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#1254 [16:55] <Kealper> bread: also when was the last time you tried it on your laptop?
#1255 [16:56] <Kealper> because i think 1.3 brought some performance increases for slow computers too
#1256 [16:56] <fizyplankton> ok. im using -verbose. try it again
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#1258 [16:56] <jakemb> o does anybody know what "bad video card drivers" are?
#1259 [16:57] <Kealper> jakemb: means your video card does not support all the stuff Minecraft needs to run
#1260 [16:57] <Kealper> jakemb: usually a driver update fixes that, if the card is not ancient
#1261 [16:57] <Kealper> fizyplankton: did that output anything useful?
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#1263 [16:58] <fizyplankton> something about constructor reset errors
#1264 [16:58] <bread> Kealper: like a few days ago lol
#1265 [16:58] <Da|Mummy> whys my sound not working?
#1266 [16:58] <Da|Mummy> in browser free multiplayer
#1267 [16:58] <Kealper> bread: oh, oh dear
#1268 [16:58] <Da|Mummy> ubuntu, chromium
#1269 [16:58] <Kealper> Da|Mummy: operating system?
#1270 [16:59] <Kealper> Da|Mummy: oh lol, is it muted? also, do you have sound on other programs?
#1271 [16:59] <Da|Mummy> i did start audacious once i learned i cant get sound from minecraft
#1272 [16:59] <Da|Mummy> is there a way to mute minecract...or actually unmute it?
#1273 [17:00] <jakemb> k cause my mom said that we dont have them, its a 1990's to early 2000's comp.
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#1275 [17:00] <Kealper> jakemb: yeah, that isn't going to run Minecraft anyways :/
#1276 [17:00] <Kealper> Da|Mummy: hmm....i really don't know, i haven't used later versions of Ubuntu much
#1277 [17:01] <Da|Mummy> also i cant even get it to run in firefox
#1278 [17:02] <mib_3xaowp> I need some help. It's not so much with the program as the site. I'm trying to use the profile page to change my skin, but for some reason it won't accept the skin I'm uploading. It's a valid png file and is the proper dimensions, but when I hit upload nothing happens. Can anyone help with this?
#1279 [17:02] <Da|Mummy> java is just a mess in ubuntu..
#1280 [17:02] <jakemb> Kealper: ok thx ill tell my mom that and may b get a new comp! :)
#1281 [17:02] <Kealper> Da|Mummy: you are using sun jvm and not OpenJDK right? lol
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#1283 [17:02] <Kealper> jakemb: one can hope lol
#1284 [17:02] <Da|Mummy> ya i think so, maybe im missing something though
#1285 [17:02] <_303> bread: without optimine on tiny I get ~15-20 FPS, with it, I get 35-50, more on maps with few block like the biosphere mod
#1286 [17:03] <_303> few block faces*
#1287 [17:03] <Da|Mummy> ive got the jre, plugin, and bin
#1288 [17:03] <bread> :o
#1289 [17:03] <bread> is there an optimine for 1.4?
#1290 [17:03] <jakemb> Ive got mod ideas but dk how to make them
#1291 [17:03] <bread> I only found for 1.3 :<
#1292 [17:03] <_303> you mean 1.4_01?
#1293 [17:03] <_303> yes, I updated it
#1294 [17:03] <bread> :o
#1295 [17:04] <mib_3xaowp> Hello?
#1296 [17:04] <_303> it's on the one stop mod shop. original author hasn't updated his thread yet
#1297 [17:05] <jakemb> Does anyone know how to or were to download somthing to make mods
#1298 [17:05] <_303> #mcp
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#1300 [17:07] <mib_3xaowp> Anyone?
#1301 [17:07] <bread> heh well that did nothing.
#1302 [17:07] <jakemb> does any one know how 2 make mods?
#1303 [17:07] <bread> 6fps lol
#1304 [17:08] <bread> well, in my laptop's defence, the GPU isn't working properly.
#1305 [17:09] <mib_3xaowp> I'm guessing whoever answers questions isn't here right now. I'll figure it out on my own then.
#1306 [17:11] <bread> lol @ rage quitting mibbit users
#1307 [17:19] <fizyplankton> is minecraft tcp or udp?
#1308 [17:19] <fizyplankton> smp. that is
#1309 [17:19] <Kealper> tcp
#1310 [17:20] <fizyplankton> try my server now
#1311 [17:22] <Kealper> still no go
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#1313 [17:22] <Kealper> have someone else try connecting, maybe this is just an issue between me and you :/
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#1315 [17:23] <jarid> Intel Celeron 900 and Intel GMA 4500M and 2 GB DDR3 RAM, can I run Minecraft b4 I buy? pls help
#1316 [17:23] <Kealper> jarid: is that a normal laptop or netbook?
#1317 [17:24] <jarid> Kealper: laptop
#1318 [17:24] <Kealper> hmm
#1319 [17:24] <Kealper> it might not run it super good, but it should be playable
#1320 [17:25] <jarid> I played the online demo and it seemed ok, not for the large map though but medium and small worked fine
#1321 [17:25] <Kealper> let me check on the gpu first though
#1322 [17:25] <gPad2002> Integrated card
#1323 [17:25] <gPad2002> Not high hopes
#1324 [17:25] <Kealper> yeah i know that, but i'm checking if it's garbage or semi-garbage lol
#1325 [17:26] <gPad2002> Lol
#1326 [17:26] <jarid> Prob major-garbage :\
#1327 [17:26] <Kealper> i thikn the 4500M is one of the better intel GMA ones though
#1328 [17:26] <Kealper> how well did it play the free version? flawlessly?
#1329 [17:26] <jarid> I get about 5 - 20 fps on large map
#1330 [17:26] <jarid> So not very well
#1331 [17:27] <jarid> Although medium/small worked great
#1332 [17:27] <Kealper> hmm
#1333 [17:27] <gPad2002> SSP/SMP are more than a little more intensive
#1334 [17:27] <Kealper> it might play beta if you turned all the graphics down
#1335 [17:27] <gPad2002> I get well over 1000 FPS in creative, and I get like 200 in SMP
#1336 [17:28] <bread> :o
#1337 [17:28] <Kealper> i've never checked my fps in classic lol
#1338 [17:28] * gPad2002 with a €3000 desktop
#1338 [17:28] * gPad2002 shrugs
#1338 [17:28] <bread> lol
#1339 [17:28] <gPad2002> Well
#1340 [17:28] <gPad2002> The unit wasnt that much
#1341 [17:28] <gPad2002> That includes my 1080p widescreen and 5.1 surround :P
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#1343 [17:29] * gPad2002 puts away his e-penis
#1343 [17:29] <gPad2002> Now, back on topic
#1344 [17:29] <Kealper> my $400 desktop from 2008 gets 60-120fps in smp lol
#1345 [17:29] <gPad2002> :P
#1346 [17:30] <gPad2002> MC doesn't thread properly
#1347 [17:30] <gPad2002> For some reason
#1348 [17:30] <gPad2002> I always have one CPU that just idles
#1349 [17:30] <Kealper> it doesn't thread at all
#1350 [17:30] <AkiTensai> gPad2002: Lucky... I have 7 that just idle...
#1351 [17:31] <gPad2002> Lol
#1352 [17:31] <Kealper> the whole minecraft game is on a single thread, the other threads are just from Java itself :/
#1353 [17:31] <gPad2002> I mean, all the time though
#1354 [17:31] <AkiTensai> ^.^
#1355 [17:31] <Kealper> AkiTensai: intel core i7?
#1356 [17:31] <gPad2002> The other 7 are usually in use
#1357 [17:31] <Kealper> because if you have an i7, you don't have 8 cores >.>
#1358 [17:31] <gPad2002> Kealper: Eight threads
#1359 [17:32] <bread> isn't it 4 cores, with 4 virtual cores?
#1360 [17:32] <gPad2002> Not that it matters to Windows
#1361 [17:32] <Kealper> yes bread
#1362 [17:32] <bread> \o/
#1363 [17:32] * bread r smrt
#1363 [17:32] <gPad2002> Lol
#1364 [17:32] <Kealper> technically it's just 4 hyperthreaded cores
#1365 [17:32] <gPad2002> Yeah it is
#1366 [17:32] <Kealper> but HT is.....not helpful...
#1367 [17:32] <AkiTensai> Kealper: /shrug. When I open Task manager, it shows me 8 grid spots, which makes them all unreadable unless maximized.
#1368 [17:33] <AkiTensai> Kealper: That explains why I was expecting 4 and it shows 8. Thank you.
#1369 [17:33] <gPad2002> Four cores with two threads each
#1370 [17:33] <gPad2002> Windows can't tell the difference
#1371 [17:33] <Kealper> a hyperthreaded core shows as two cores in windows because windows is dumb like that
#1372 [17:33] <gPad2002> Brb
#1373 [17:33] <bread> >windows is dumb
#1374 [17:33] <bread> :>
#1375 [17:33] <Kealper> :<
#1376 [17:33] <bread> 8D
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#1378 [17:35] <fizyplankton> Kealper: try it on port 25566
#1379 [17:35] <bread> http://xxx.xxx/
#1380 [17:35] <bread> \o/
#1381 [17:36] <Kealper> XD
#1382 [17:36] <Kealper> darn
#1383 [17:36] <Kealper> .xxx tld has to be a porn site :<
#1384 [17:37] <fizyplankton> im almost positive it will work now
#1385 [17:37] <bread> Kealper: yeah lol. When they were having pre-registrations, I tried to get one :P
#1386 [17:37] <Kealper> downloading terrain this time, but it's taking ages
#1387 [17:37] <Kealper> bread: XD
#1388 [17:37] <Kealper> timed out on downloading terrain
#1389 [17:37] <bread> http://bread.xxx/
#1390 [17:38] <fizyplankton> i can make that part faster
#1391 [17:38] <bread> has a nice ring to it, eh
#1392 [17:38] <Kealper> lol
#1393 [17:38] <fizyplankton> try it now
#1394 [17:39] <Kealper> We expect names to be available in Q2 2011. :O
#1395 [17:39] <Kealper> fizyplankton: still nothing....what are you doing exactly?
#1396 [17:40] <fizyplankton> i made it into a ram disk server to try to get rid of the terrain lag. to get it waoring a second ago, i got a program to act as a proxy. it collects all the packets from mc, then sends them out at once. otherwise, it looks like mc is DoSing us
#1397 [17:41] <fizyplankton> but did the terrain load this time?
#1398 [17:41] <Kealper> no
#1399 [17:41] <Kealper> didn't even try loading, just did what it did before
#1400 [17:41] <Kealper> do you even have enough upstream bandwidth to let others connect right? x.x
#1401 [17:42] <fizyplankton> i can run creative with like 10-20 ppl on with no problem
#1402 [17:42] <Kealper> hmm
#1403 [17:42] <Kealper> and your bandwidth is not being taken by creative servers?
#1404 [17:42] <fizyplankton> its idle. but i can shut it down
#1405 [17:43] <Kealper> i assume it's running on a different port?
#1406 [17:43] <fizyplankton> ......duh
#1407 [17:43] <fizyplankton> try it now
#1408 [17:43] <Kealper> downloading terrain
#1409 [17:43] <Kealper> looks like it's going to fail again
#1410 [17:44] <fizyplankton> lemme try rebooting
#1411 [17:44] <fizyplankton> gimme a minute
#1412 [17:44] <Kealper> i would highly suggest getting someone else to try it and confirm if it's just the connection between you and me that sucks or if your server sucks :/
#1413 [17:45] <fizyplankton> can someone other that Kealper (no offense), aubot, or vox (all offense possible) try to connect to 74.166.109.199:25566 ?
#1414 [17:46] <fizyplankton> dont gimme that face
#1415 [17:46] * fizyplankton suddenly feels guilty
#1415 [17:46] <fizyplankton> darn it. underscores are hard to see in a CLI client
#1416 [17:46] <Kealper> lol
#1417 [17:47] <fizyplankton> irssi ftw!!!!!!!!!!
#1418 [17:47] <Kealper> i'm in a CLI client and i see it fine
#1419 [17:47] <Kealper> \o/
#1420 [17:47] <fizyplankton> i cant see it when its the most recent line
#1421 [17:47] <Kealper> oh lol
#1422 [17:47] <NotiCon> ______
#1423 [17:47] <fizyplankton> it blends with the status bar
#1424 [17:47] <NotiCon> tee hee
#1425 [17:47] <_303> fizyplankton: it would appear to work
#1426 [17:47] <Kealper> i've got a custom theme on my irssi that doesn't give me that problem :P
#1427 [17:47] <fizyplankton> are you schlauch?
#1428 [17:48] <_303> nah, offline mode fake name
#1429 [17:48] <fizyplankton> your on irssi?
#1430 [17:48] <fizyplankton> ...
#1431 [17:48] * fizyplankton makes a mental note to ip ban him
#1431 [17:48] <fizyplankton> but first, how do you do that?
#1432 [17:48] <Kealper> fizyplankton: i told you like an hour ago to check if it was just the connection between you an me >.>
#1433 [17:48] <fizyplankton> _303 or whatever hes called nowadays got in fine
#1434 [17:49] <_303> fizyplankton: as easy as passing your desired name onto the command line to start minecraft
#1435 [17:49] <fizyplankton> man i feel stupid
#1436 [17:49] <fizyplankton> get back on, but stay on for a while. i want to make sure it stays working
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#1439 [17:52] <_303> the animals they refuse to die
#1440 [17:52] <bread> fizyplankton: I managed to connect :o
#1441 [17:52] * VoxelHead is back
#1441 [17:53] <fizyplankton> 17:52 * VoxelHead is back
#1442 [17:53] <fizyplankton> NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
#1443 [17:53] <bread> welcome back vox :<
#1444 [17:53] <VoxelHead> Re
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#1446 [17:56] <_303> urr crashed
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#1452 [18:12] <SPaRT> damn
#1453 [18:13] <SPaRT> lost myself in a cave :-/
#1454 [18:13] <SPaRT> any way to get out again?
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#1456 [18:24] <dolseni_phone> spart dig up
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#1458 [18:31] <bellows> hi all
#1459 [18:31] <VoxelHead> hiya bellows
#1460 [18:31] <bellows> anyone know how to connect to the minecraft server
#1461 [18:31] <bellows> ip or w/e
#1462 [18:33] <bellows> do u know VoxelHead
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#1464 [18:33] <_303> what server?
#1465 [18:33] <bellows> any?
#1466 [18:33] <bellows> where do i find one to go to
#1467 [18:34] <bellows> i just got it im a newb XD
#1468 [18:34] <_303> 74.166.109.199:25566
#1469 [18:34] <_303> fizyplankton's. pretty empty
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#1471 [18:35] <bellows> then come join meh :)
#1472 [18:35] <dolseni_phone> i need to look into finding a good smp server
#1473 [18:35] <bellows> smp?
#1474 [18:35] <pureapplejews> Anyone here a mac guru?
#1475 [18:35] <VoxelHead> No
#1476 [18:35] <Hamish> Ello
#1477 [18:35] <_303> VoxelHead is just a bot, nvm her
#1478 [18:35] <bellows> i have a mac
#1479 [18:36] <bellows> i know em pretty well
#1480 [18:36] <pureapplejews> once you go mac, you never go back
#1481 [18:36] <bellows> sever timed out
#1482 [18:36] <AG_Scott> I once licked a mac.
#1483 [18:36] <Hamish> me I'm a Mac guru
#1484 [18:36] <pureapplejews> I was hoping to get some help
#1485 [18:36] <Hamish> Ya
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#1487 [18:36] <bellows> with what?
#1488 [18:37] <_303> just ask away
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#1490 [18:37] <bellows> the server isnt working _303
#1491 [18:37] <dolseni_phone> smp is survi al multiplayer
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#1493 [18:37] <pureapplejews> I was running the mincraft app just fine, then I started playing around with bukkit, now I cant get the app to run. With the server running locally or not
#1494 [18:38] <pureapplejews> So when I set up my first local server, my mincraft crashes on launch. typical I guess
#1495 [18:39] <Hamish> So u cant redid load m
#1496 [18:39] <Hamish> Sorry download it
#1497 [18:39] <Hamish> Again
#1498 [18:39] <pureapplejews> Downloaded it a few times
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#1502 [18:39] <pureapplejews> running the v1 client
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#1504 [18:40] <bellows> anyone know how to get fire on minecraft
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#1506 [18:40] <Razorflame> bellows: Flint and Steel
#1507 [18:40] <bellows> where do i get those XD
#1508 [18:40] <Razorflame> Craft them
#1509 [18:40] <dolseni_phone> from flint and iron
#1510 [18:40] <Razorflame> One flint and one Iron Ingot
#1511 [18:40] <Hamish> Ah so does it run without the local server
#1512 [18:41] <Razorflame> flint right above lower left corner
#1513 [18:41] <Razorflame> iron ingot to the right
#1514 [18:41] <Razorflame> of lower left corner
#1515 [18:41] <Razorflame> of the crafting table crafting window
#1516 [18:41] <Razorflame> XD
#1517 [18:41] <pureapplejews> it wont run with the server process running or not running
#1518 [18:42] <pureapplejews> ive just downloaded the plain jar version and it runs fine
#1519 [18:43] <Hamish> On what
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#1521 [18:47] <Hamish> What is the bukkit
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#1523 [18:48] <bellows> god this map is either to big or i cant find shit
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#1527 [18:53] <Hamish> What is the bukkit
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#1529 [18:55] <dhave> im having an issue with runnign a server
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#1531 [18:56] <dhave> my friend is trying to connect to it and he can connect via the browser but not his client
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#1537 [19:18] <leaper> hello
#1538 [19:18] <leaper> can anyone help me
#1539 [19:18] <leaper> can anyone help me?
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#1541 [19:20] <DreadLindwyrm> What's the problem - then we can tell you if we can help.
#1542 [19:20] <PapaPandcakes> no ingame sound
#1543 [19:20] <gPortal2002> He left
#1544 [19:20] <_303> mibbit yey
#1545 [19:20] <gPortal2002> Lol
#1546 [19:20] <gPortal2002> Ask question, leave ten seconds later
#1547 [19:20] <gPortal2002> Or in this case
#1548 [19:20] <gPortal2002> Spam, and leave ten seconds later
#1549 [19:20] <gPortal2002> :P
#1550 [19:21] <DreadLindwyrm> Pah - this side bar keeps not updating quickly enough.
#1551 [19:21] <DreadLindwyrm> Ah well...
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#1557 [19:39] <thig> does anybody remember me?
#1558 [19:40] <thig> hello?
#1559 [19:40] <thig> there must be like 100 idlers
#1560 [19:41] <DreadLindwyrm> I don't remember you, but there is a small chance I can help?
#1561 [19:41] <thig> actually 158 idlers
#1562 [19:41] <thig> well,you wont be able to solve my problem because nobody else has
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#1564 [19:42] <thig> which is like,ten people
#1565 [19:43] <VoxelHead> mmm pwnus
#1566 [19:43] <_303> how if nobody remembers or knows about your issue
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#1568 [19:43] <thig> there are not here right now
#1569 [19:44] <thig> uggg,lemme tell you the long story
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#1572 [19:47] <thig> when i launch minecraft and get to the title screen,it freezes then my screen is at 4 bit when usually it is at 32 bit.then it says my display driver isnt working normally and if i reboot it will go back to normal.when i do that,it goes back to normal but i still cant play minecraft or it will do it again.yes,i have played minecraft before,like months.
#1573 [19:48] <thig> my driver is intel Q965/Q963 express chipset family
#1574 [19:48] <thig> it has something to do with my open gl mode
#1575 [19:48] <DreadLindwyrm> Let's start with the obvious. Have you updated your graphics drivers recently, or could they have updated automatically?
#1576 [19:49] <DreadLindwyrm> If so, can you revert to the previous version?
#1577 [19:49] <_303> also have you updated the lwjgl jars to the latest?
#1578 [19:49] <thig> i cant update because they are as updated as possible
#1579 [19:49] <thig> lwjgl?
#1580 [19:49] <_303> ?? lwjgl
#1581 [19:49] <_303> okay VoxelHead sorry
#1582 [19:49] <VoxelHead> ok _303
#1583 [19:50] <DreadLindwyrm> That's what I meant - could they have been updated, and thereby caused the problem?
#1584 [19:50] <thig> you mean the file in .minecraft/bin?
#1585 [19:50] <_303> yes. the ones included in minecraft are at like 2.4.2 or so
#1586 [19:50] <_303> latest are 2.7.1 iirc ...
#1587 [19:50] <thig> i dont think they are updated
#1588 [19:50] <thig> dont the update themselves?
#1589 [19:51] <_303> no
#1590 [19:51] <thig> how do i update them?
#1591 [19:51] <_303> download from lwjgl.org, copy the right files to the right place for your OS
#1592 [19:51] <thig> if you fix this, i will be the happiest i have ever been in my life
#1593 [19:52] <thig> ok
#1594 [19:52] <thig> i will try
#1595 [19:53] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :O
#1596 [19:54] <thig> what?303 quit?whos gonna help me?
#1597 [19:55] <thig> can someone help me?
#1598 [19:55] <thig> vox?
#1599 [19:55] <VoxelHead> only on Wednesdays
#1600 [19:55] <gPortal2002> It's a bo
#1601 [19:55] <thig> awww,come on
#1602 [19:55] <gPortal2002> Bot
#1603 [19:55] <gPortal2002> ?? Index
#1604 [19:55] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1605 [19:55] <thig> oh
#1606 [19:55] <thig> can someone else help me?
#1607 [19:56] <thig> pleeease
#1608 [19:56] <thig> pick off where 303 left
#1609 [19:57] <thig> PLEEEASE HELP ME
#1610 [19:57] <thig> please dont ignore me
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#1612 [19:58] <thig> you are ignoring me arent you?
#1613 [19:58] <gPortal2002> No
#1614 [19:58] <gPortal2002> I just have no idea how to help
#1615 [19:58] <thig> youre helping?
#1616 [19:58] <DreadLindwyrm> I've given my only useful suggestion - check if an automatic update to your drivers could have broken the game.
#1617 [19:58] <thig> oh
#1618 [19:58] <thig> DARN IT!!
#1619 [19:59] <thig> i like caps
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#1621 [20:01] <thig> duuuuude,this suuuuuuuuuucks.i finally have a new awnser and the left
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#1623 [20:01] <thig> and the guy left
#1624 [20:01] <thig> i dont know where to put that file
#1625 [20:03] <thig> can you at least talk
#1626 [20:03] <thig> kinda quiet
#1627 [20:04] <thig> guys?
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#1629 [20:04] <thig> THEY ARE DEAD,I KILLED EM
#1630 [20:04] <thig> vox
#1631 [20:04] <DreadLindwyrm> People tend to only speak in here if they have an issue, or are helping fix one. If they can't help, then they stay quiet
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#1633 [20:05] <schnozzle> hi
#1634 [20:05] <thig> then dont stay quiet
#1635 [20:05] <thig> cool
#1636 [20:05] <schnozzle> i ned help
#1637 [20:05] <schnozzle> need
#1638 [20:05] <thig> someones talking,only one word though
#1639 [20:05] <schnozzle> cool
#1640 [20:06] <schnozzle> whenever i turn on minecraft it does the java load thing and then it all goes white
#1641 [20:06] <DreadLindwyrm> Is your java upto date?
#1642 [20:06] <schnozzle> ya
#1643 [20:07] <Vector> does it go to the login screen first?
#1644 [20:07] <Vector> for minecraft
#1645 [20:07] <schnozzle> what login scree?
#1646 [20:07] <Vector> when you run minecraft.exe
#1647 [20:07] <schnozzle> ya
#1648 [20:08] <Vector> it will take you to a page that lists updates, as well as a area on the lower right for you to login
#1649 [20:08] <Vector> does it get to that page?
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#1651 [20:08] <schnozzle> ya
#1652 [20:08] <Vector> ok
#1653 [20:08] <thig> tell me when 303 come back.do it in caps,several times
#1654 [20:08] <Vector> tell it to do a force update
#1655 [20:08] <Vector> in options
#1656 [20:08] <thig> lucky,your problems easy
#1657 [20:09] <thig> lemme guess his works right?
#1658 [20:09] <Vector> well not so sure about his problem yet
#1659 [20:09] <Vector> what's your problem, thig?
#1660 [20:09] <thig> mine is alot harder
#1661 [20:09] <thig> i dont want to explain it
#1662 [20:09] <Vector> give me the gist of it
#1663 [20:10] <schnozzle> 303?
#1664 [20:10] <thig> its long and i gotta get on my homework,ill tell ya later if you are still on here
#1665 [20:10] <Vector> ok
#1666 [20:10] <thig> see ya
#1667 [20:10] <schnozzle> you didnt help me
#1668 [20:10] <Vector> bye
#1669 [20:10] <thig> SORRRRRRRYYYYY
#1670 [20:11] <Vector> ok so you did the force update yet?
#1671 [20:11] <thig> YOU DONT GET HELP
#1672 [20:11] <schnozzle> how?
#1673 [20:11] <Vector> well when you run minecraft.exe
#1674 [20:11] <Vector> on the lower right, two buttons, "Login" and "Options"
#1675 [20:11] <schnozzle> k
#1676 [20:11] <Vector> click options, and then click the force update button
#1677 [20:12] <Vector> then login
#1678 [20:12] <schnozzle> k
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#1680 [20:12] <schnozzle> working on it
#1681 [20:12] <Vector> ok
#1682 [20:12] <Vector> then tell me if it's downloading files
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#1684 [20:13] <schnozzle> it is
#1685 [20:13] <Vector> ok
#1686 [20:13] <Vector> once its done, it should continue on to loading the game
#1687 [20:13] <schnozzle> you fixed it. i love you
#1688 [20:13] <Vector> if, however, that fails
#1689 [20:13] <Vector> oh
#1690 [20:14] <Vector> cool
#1691 [20:14] <Vector> :P
#1692 [20:14] <Vector> no problem
#1693 [20:14] <schnozzle> i wanna give u a hug
#1694 [20:14] * Vector gives schnozzle a hug
#1694 [20:14] <schnozzle> yay
#1695 [20:14] <Vector> HEY VOXEL, STOP STARING AT US
#1696 [20:15] <schnozzle> ya
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#1698 [20:15] <Snapple_apple> hello
#1699 [20:15] <Vector> hi
#1700 [20:15] <Snapple_apple> Can i please get an answer to my problem lol
#1701 [20:15] <Vector> ask away
#1702 [20:15] <schnozzle> WHAT DO YOU WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1703 [20:15] <Vector> ??>ask Snapple_apple
#1704 [20:16] <Vector> i think that how it goes
#1705 [20:16] <Vector> AWW
#1706 [20:16] <Vector> !paid alphablend
#1707 [20:16] <Vector> Snapple, ask away, and we may have an answer for you :P
#1708 [20:16] <m0nk> http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/lb-photo-realism-pack-256x256/
#1709 [20:17] <Snapple_apple> I deleted my .minecraft folder and tried to download it again now whenever i start minecraft it just closes after black screening. Please help!
#1710 [20:17] <Vector> ok
#1711 [20:17] <Vector> same solution i gave the last guy
#1712 [20:17] <Snapple_apple> im P***** off about it
#1713 [20:17] <m0nk> Snapple_apple: try installing from the same file you downloaded it with
#1714 [20:18] <Snapple_apple> what do you mean?
#1715 [20:18] <Vector> run minecraft.exe again, and instead of clicking "Login", click "Options", and then hit the "Force Update" button that follows, then hit ok, and then login again
#1716 [20:18] <Snapple_apple> ok thx ill try
#1717 [20:18] <Vector> ok
#1718 [20:18] <Snapple_apple> It just did the same thing again its been doing this all day im literally crying please help me!
#1719 [20:19] <Snapple_apple> shit tit piss
#1720 [20:19] <m0nk> when you went to minecraft.net. and downloaded the installer. try using the same installer to install it again
#1721 [20:19] <Snapple_apple> i did that
#1722 [20:19] <m0nk> ah
#1723 [20:20] <Vector> it did what?
#1724 [20:20] <Vector> you clicked "Force Update"?
#1725 [20:20] <Snapple_apple> it black screened and closed all by itself
#1726 [20:20] <Snapple_apple> yes!
#1727 [20:20] <Vector> ok
#1728 [20:20] <Vector> has it been doing that even before you removed the .minecraft folder?
#1729 [20:20] <Snapple_apple> no only after
#1730 [20:21] <Vector> weird, it should re-download everything if it doesn't have that folder
#1731 [20:21] <DreadLindwyrm> My next thought would be to completely remove it with "add/remove programs" if you are on a PC, and what ever the equivalent for other systems would be. Then reinstall
#1732 [20:21] <Vector> actually, minecraft isn't an entry in the program list
#1733 [20:21] <Snapple_apple> ill check what it has in the folder
#1734 [20:21] <DreadLindwyrm> Weird - I thought I saw it when I looked at mine - I must be confused.
#1735 [20:22] <Snapple_apple> All it has is the bin folder and my last Login
#1736 [20:22] <Snapple_apple> nothing else completely nothing
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#1738 [20:22] <Vector> ok
#1739 [20:22] <Snapple_apple> herro
#1740 [20:22] <Vector> a force update should fix your situation
#1741 [20:22] <Vector> ok that means you have the .minecraft folder
#1742 [20:22] <Snapple_apple> ill try that AGAIN
#1743 [20:22] <m0nk> delete the .minecraft folder completely and install using minecraft.exe
#1744 [20:22] <Vector> go ahead and delete that
#1745 [20:22] <Vector> actually
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#1747 [20:23] <Snapple_apple> lol reset by peer
#1748 [20:23] <Snapple_apple> hey
#1749 [20:23] <Vector> lol
#1750 [20:23] <Vector> do you get intense lag while connecting to multiplayer servers?
#1751 [20:23] <Snapple_apple> Vector only you highlight my text that i enter next
#1752 [20:24] <Vector> ok
#1753 [20:24] <Snapple_apple> GOD DAMMIT IT DIDNT WORK STILL!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1754 [20:24] <VoxelHead> i say
#1755 [20:24] <Snapple_apple> RAGE!
#1756 [20:24] <Vector> ok
#1757 [20:24] <Vector> delete the .minecraft folder then
#1758 [20:24] <Snapple_apple> i did!
#1759 [20:24] <Vector> and it goes to login screen
#1760 [20:24] <Snapple_apple> yeah?
#1761 [20:24] <Vector> you login
#1762 [20:25] <Vector> and it just goes to a blank screen?
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#1764 [20:25] <Snapple_apple> it goes to black and auto closes
#1765 [20:25] <Snapple_apple>
#1766 [20:25] <Snapple_apple>
#1767 [20:25] <Snapple_apple>
#1768 [20:25] <Snapple_apple>
#1769 [20:25] <Snapple_apple>
#1770 [20:25] <Vector> uhm
#1771 [20:25] <Vector> wow
#1772 [20:25] <Vector> it set you to quiet
#1773 [20:25] <Vector> ok
#1774 [20:25] <Vector> auto closes
#1775 [20:25] <Snapple_apple> i did that on purpose
#1776 [20:25] <Vector> that's interesting
#1777 [20:25] <Snapple_apple> yes it does!
#1778 [20:26] <Snapple_apple> am i allowed to say D 4 M N'
#1779 [20:26] <Snapple_apple> ?
#1780 [20:26] <Vector> that sounds like for some reason an issue with java,ironically
#1781 [20:26] <Vector> yes you can
#1782 [20:26] <Snapple_apple> ok thx
#1783 [20:26] <Snapple_apple> ITS SOOO DAMN ANNOYING!'
#1784 [20:26] <Vector> the auto-closing sounds weird
#1785 [20:26] <Vector> is this almost instantaneous after you hit login
#1786 [20:26] <Vector> or it goes after awhile
#1787 [20:27] <Snapple_apple> i downloaded the l8st version of java too
#1788 [20:27] <Vector> i'd re-install java
#1789 [20:27] <Snapple_apple> instantaneous
#1790 [20:27] <Vector> and then run it again
#1791 [20:27] <Snapple_apple> i did
#1792 [20:27] <Vector> you completely removed it first, before installing again?
#1793 [20:27] <m0nk> reinstall java
#1794 [20:27] <Snapple_apple> im sooo p*****d off
#1795 [20:27] <m0nk> or flash
#1796 [20:27] <Snapple_apple> yes
#1797 [20:27] <Snapple_apple> java
#1798 [20:28] <m0nk> find java in programs list
#1799 [20:28] <Snapple_apple> ok y?
#1800 [20:28] <m0nk> uninstall. download new .ver then reinstall. try mc
#1801 [20:28] <Snapple_apple> already done
#1802 [20:28] <Snapple_apple> i did that
#1803 [20:28] <Vector> ok
#1804 [20:28] <Vector> i'm trying to think
#1805 [20:29] <Vector> it worked before you removed .minecraft folder, now it auto closes, when it SHOULD have tried an update instead
#1806 [20:29] <Vector> go ahead and try to click force update again, if the option allows you to
#1807 [20:29] <m0nk> restore the deleted mc content from trash can? profit!?
#1808 [20:29] <Snapple_apple> ill try m0nk
#1809 [20:29] <Vector> ok
#1810 [20:31] <Snapple_apple> is it 1.5 now?
#1811 [20:31] <Snapple_apple> lol
#1812 [20:31] <Snapple_apple> it did it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1813 [20:31] <Snapple_apple> it did it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1814 [20:31] <Snapple_apple> I MEANT DAMMIT!
#1815 [20:31] <Vector> wow
#1816 [20:32] <Snapple_apple> S*** S*** S*** S***
#1817 [20:32] <Snapple_apple> wait hold on
#1818 [20:32] <Vector> ?
#1819 [20:32] <Snapple_apple> just wait
#1820 [20:32] <Snapple_apple> GOD DAMMIT!
#1821 [20:33] <Snapple_apple> I'M SORRY ITS LENT LET ME REPHRASE THAT
#1822 [20:33] <Vector> i'll private message you
#1823 [20:33] <Snapple_apple> DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1824 [20:33] <Snapple_apple> how?
#1825 [20:34] <Snapple_apple> why the frig r u imming me?
#1826 [20:34] <Vector> ok i'll say it here then
#1827 [20:34] <Snapple_apple> y not pm?
#1828 [20:34] <Vector> i'd like to take a look to see what the problem is
#1829 [20:34] <Snapple_apple> ok how?
#1830 [20:34] <Vector> do you have teamviewer?
#1831 [20:34] <Vector> www.teamviewer.com
#1832 [20:35] <Snapple_apple> hella no!
#1833 [20:35] <Snapple_apple> SON OF A B****
#1834 [20:35] <Vector> want to get it?
#1835 [20:35] <Snapple_apple> frig no
#1836 [20:35] <Vector> it's a tech support tool
#1837 [20:36] <Snapple_apple> frig no
#1838 [20:36] <Snapple_apple> I SAID STILL FRIG NO!
#1839 [20:36] <Vector> calm do wn
#1840 [20:36] <Vector> down*
#1841 [20:36] <Snapple_apple> do u play portal?
#1842 [20:36] <Vector> no
#1843 [20:36] <Snapple_apple> does anyone here play portal?
#1844 [20:36] <Vector> perhaps there are some that do
#1845 [20:37] <Snapple_apple> is there a portal irc?
#1846 [20:37] <m0nk> i'm on multiplayer server. and i'm stuck in a house and the door is magicall locked with a magical spell. how do iget out?
#1847 [20:37] <Snapple_apple> ./spawn
#1848 [20:37] <m0nk> ty
#1849 [20:37] <Snapple_apple> http://mibpaste.com/tSx8as
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#1851 [20:37] <Snapple_apple> go to that
#1852 [20:38] <m0nk> why
#1853 [20:38] <Vector> well snapple, your issue seems pretty weird, because minecraft is acting as if it already has files present in %APPDATA% even though it doesn't
#1854 [20:38] <Vector> sigh
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#1857 [20:40] <m0nk> it still says 50% allocated memory. where do i have to write something for it to dedicate 1 gb?
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#1859 [20:42] <Vector> uhm
#1860 [20:42] <Vector> i really don't know where you would change that
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#1862 [20:48] <yup8> Hello, i'm making a minecraft video and i would like to get the "3rd person Front View" is there any mod to enable it?
#1863 [20:48] <bread> F5 enables third person :o
#1864 [20:48] <yup8> not front view
#1865 [20:49] <yup8> is there any mod ?
#1866 [20:51] <Toh> F5 is 3rd view
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#1868 [20:54] <yup8> i know
#1869 [20:54] <yup8> but i cant use Front View
#1870 [20:54] <Snapple_Apple> Hey guys guess what i got to work?!
#1871 [20:54] <yup8> like see my face
#1872 [20:54] <Snapple_Apple> its outdated you cant
#1873 [20:54] <yup8> how can i see my face?
#1874 [20:55] <yup8> DAM IT how can i make it now
#1875 [20:55] <yup8> omfg that's so lame
#1876 [20:55] <Toh> oh you mean..
#1877 [20:55] <yup8> i really need this option!
#1878 [20:56] <yup8> what can i do ??
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#1880 [20:56] <Toh> find mod
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#1882 [20:56] <yup8> what mod ?
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#1888 [21:12] <jarble> what is this?
#1889 [21:12] <wheybags> help with minecraft related problems?
#1890 [21:12] <jarble> OK.
#1891 [21:12] <bread> lol
#1892 [21:13] <jarble> I was at the Minecraft page and it said that the post was not sent
#1893 [21:14] <wheybags> jarble: ask the mail man
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#1910 [22:15] <tjz> Hey guys
#1911 [22:25] <Hamish> Ello
#1912 [22:27] <ertyuiop99> Hello
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#1916 [22:31] <VoxelHead> mmm
#1917 [22:31] * Hamish is listening to Hard On You by Rob Thomas from Cradlesong.
#1917 [22:31] <bread> Rob Thomas!
#1918 [22:32] <bread> :D
#1919 [22:32] <VoxelHead> =D
#1920 [22:32] <Hamish> :D u like him 2
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#1922 [22:34] <Hamish> If u r using colloguy on iPhone or iPod touch type /ipod
#1923 [22:37] <Hamish> /ipod
#1924 [22:37] * Hamish is listening to Misery by Maroon 5 from Hands All Over (Deluxe Version).
#1924 [22:37] <VoxelHead> i do love a good ising
#1925 [22:37] <bread> hi vox!
#1926 [22:37] <VoxelHead> so, like, bread$~**@~^~*#^
#1927 [22:37] <bread> :D
#1928 [22:37] <VoxelHead> =]
#1929 [22:37] <Hamish> :[
#1930 [22:40] * Hamish is listening to Hands All Over by Maroon 5 from Hands All Over (Deluxe Version).
#1930 [22:40] * VoxelHead is Hamish
#1930 [22:40] <Hamish> VoxelHead: What u mean
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#1932 [22:43] * Hamish is listening to Never Gonna Leave This Bed (Acoustic) by Maroon 5 from Hands All Over (Deluxe Version).
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#1934 [22:45] <Tuh> yo
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#1935 [22:47] * VoxelHead . o O ( ? )
#1935 [22:47] <ertyuiop99> fogWraith!
#1936 [22:47] <Hamish> Love Maroon 5
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#1938 [22:48] <VoxelHead> i like them :o)
#1939 [22:49] <Hamish> I'll change album
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#1941 [22:53] <AkiTensai> Feature of minecraft: at times it will black screen as a means for the player to escape >.>
#1942 [22:57] * Hamish is listening to White Shadows by Coldplay from X&Y.
#1942 [22:57] <VoxelHead> oh dear. what will the neighbours think?
#1943 [22:57] <Hamish> Lol
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#1945 [22:58] <MLoeven> i have a bit of a technical question. i have several computers so what i want to do is share the minecraft appdata folder with all of them
#1946 [22:58] <MLoeven> the windows machines i can simply use junctions to redirect the app data folder to the shared network drive
#1947 [22:58] <MLoeven> but my mac doesent supportntfs junctions
#1948 [22:59] <MLoeven> so how can i redirect minecraft to read the shared folder on the windows machine
#1949 [22:59] <AkiTensai> Dropbox can be a means of playing the same world from multiple locations.
#1950 [22:59] <Blackthorne> VoxelHead, what?
#1951 [22:59] <VoxelHead> I can't tell you that!
#1952 [22:59] <AkiTensai> I'm unsure if Dropbox supports Mac though.
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#1954 [22:59] <AG_Scott> Dropbox does but do not use it for that.
#1955 [22:59] <Hamish> Dropbox I recommend
#1956 [23:00] <MLoeven> is there a configuration file in the app that allows you to set the location of the data
#1957 [23:00] <Hamish> It does support Mac
#1958 [23:00] <AkiTensai> >D 2 for drop box, 1 against.
#1959 [23:00] <AG_Scott> Just mount the samba share.
#1960 [23:00] <MLoeven> ...
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#1962 [23:00] <AkiTensai> MLoeven: I don't believe so.
#1963 [23:00] <Hamish> Be
#1964 [23:00] <MLoeven> i did what i need to know is how to make minecraft read the share instead of library
#1965 [23:00] <AkiTensai> (if you mean Minecraft being told to save somewhere else.
#1966 [23:01] <Hamish> Right back
#1967 [23:01] <MLoeven> yes
#1968 [23:01] <MLoeven> well with windows do you all know what junctions are
#1969 [23:01] <AG_Scott> can't you mount the samba share in that folder?
#1970 [23:01] <AG_Scott> or just create a symlink?
#1971 [23:01] <MLoeven> i dont know how to do that on osx
#1972 [23:01] <MLoeven> the only way i know of to create those is in windows with linkd
#1973 [23:01] <AG_Scott> Google is your friend :>
#1974 [23:03] <MLoeven> the thing is the shared drive is ntfs will a macs link even work ??
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#1977 [23:16] <tsukiball> greetings
#1978 [23:17] <AkiTensai> MLoeven: I don't see why it wouldn't. If you are worried about trying it on a world, you could try it with a txt file first.
#1979 [23:18] <AkiTensai> Practice safe testing. *nods*
#1980 [23:21] <tsukiball> I have been having a rather strange problem, the first time I open in single player browser it works fine, but if I close it and reload, or try to go multiplayer it only gives me a black screen till I restart my computer, very odd
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#1983 [23:27] <tsukiball> -_-
#1984 [23:27] <VoxelHead> =]
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#1993 [23:47] <VoxelHead> mmm ionface
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