#1 [00:08] <VoxelHead> Watch out for the moose.
#2 [00:09] <bread> Thanks for the warning, vox.
#3 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Bye dduchaine.
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#8 [00:34] <dolseni> anybody know how to stop minecraft from crashing when I maximize the window? this is what comes up in the error log http://pastebin.com/Ga1xK35Y
#9 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> dolseni - Update your nvidia video drivers
#10 [00:41] <dolseni> wow, newest drivers are 103mb and were updated just a few hours ago
#11 [00:41] <AkiTensai> NVidia?
#12 [00:42] <VoxelHead> r
#13 [00:42] <dolseni> i guess that kinda makes sense... in the change log they made some optimizations for a buncha games, including portal 2
#14 [00:42] <dolseni> yes, nvidia
#15 [00:43] <dolseni> nvidia geforce 8500 GT
#16 [00:43] <dolseni> old, but decent
#17 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> I'm running an 8800GTS, not that far off
#18 [00:43] <dolseni> AkiTensai why'd you assume it was nvidia?
#19 [00:44] <AkiTensai> Saw an article a few hours ago saying they updated drivers.
#20 [00:44] <dolseni> ah
#21 [00:45] <dolseni> i like how i downloaded the windows 7 verson of the drivers and the default save directory for their exe is blah/blahblah/vista/blah
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#23 [00:48] <dolseni> hah, thats pretty cool http://boob.imgur.com/8PRV1
#24 [00:49] <dolseni> man, the driver update is taking forever
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#26 [00:51] <dolseni> thats one of the things that makes me afraid of playing multiplayer though... if i make something cool it could just be destroyed by a random
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#28 [00:53] <AkiTensai> dolseni: Risk of grievers can be mitigated.
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#30 [01:00] <ksnap_AU> boys
#31 [01:00] <ksnap_AU> you can't activate portal to nether without mods?
#32 [01:00] <dolseni> yay no more crashing, thanks GreyVulpine
#33 [01:00] <dolseni> yes you can ksnap
#34 [01:00] <ksnap_AU> how so
#35 [01:01] <AkiTensai> ksnap_AU: Single player has always worked fine for me by standing in them.
#36 [01:01] <ksnap_AU> my players reported obsidian portal isnt working
#37 [01:01] <dolseni> make the ring of obsidian with the 2x3 opening
#38 [01:01] <dolseni> then light the inside on fire with flint/steel
#39 [01:01] <ksnap_AU> his got a 4x5 block
#40 [01:01] <ksnap_AU> n its on fire
#41 [01:01] <AkiTensai> 4x5 open space inside? Or 4x5 total size?
#42 [01:01] <dolseni> portal should be made, then stand inside the purple portal and a loading screen should come up in like 5 seconds
#43 [01:01] <ksnap_AU> total size
#44 [01:02] <dolseni> i've done it in single player no problem, never played much in multi
#45 [01:02] <ksnap_AU> there's a enable hellworld
#46 [01:02] <ksnap_AU> but it turns the whole map nether
#47 [01:03] <AkiTensai> What server software are you using?
#48 [01:03] <ksnap_AU> latest
#49 [01:04] <ksnap_AU> for anyone else
#50 [01:04] <ksnap_AU> who runs into the same problem
#51 [01:04] <ksnap_AU> it's impossible
#52 [01:04] <ksnap_AU> can't activate the portal without a mod in multiplayer
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#55 [01:10] <cbroughton> Hello there, anyone able to have a look at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=294397 I would appreciate the help.
#56 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> cbroughton - Any security software or firewalls?
#57 [01:12] <cbroughton> GreyVulpine: Nope, and I am in my router's DMZ (I get assigned an External IP address.)
#58 [01:12] <cbroughton> GreyVulpine: This problem has happened with LOCAL (as well as localhost) servers as well. And on my old ISP.
#59 [01:13] <SinZ> tried hosting it on a dif computer
#60 [01:13] <SinZ> and using internal ip?
#61 [01:13] <cbroughton> SinZ: Yes.
#62 [01:13] <cbroughton> SinZ: I remember you from D3 :)
#63 [01:13] <Vector> ok so
#64 [01:13] <Vector> it hasn't worked for you since october
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#66 [01:14] <cbroughton> Currenly I am running a Minecraft server on a local FreeBSD machine on the LAN.
#67 [01:14] <Vector> imo it would be a problem quite a few people are having from the 1.3 update, but you said it happeneds ince october
#68 [01:14] <cbroughton> Vector: Every since I got the game (October) it's still not working.
#69 [01:14] <cbroughton> It's never worked, MP.
#70 [01:14] <Vector> hm
#71 [01:14] <Maxxion> I've been getting alot of errors with Minecraft servers, is it possible that my RAM/motherboard are the cause of it? (recv failed and socket write errors)
#72 [01:14] <SinZ> the first version of smp was the best ^.^
#73 [01:14] <cbroughton> Maxxion: Other people and computers can use my server(s) just fine.
#74 [01:14] <Vector> recent problem, Maxxion?
#75 [01:14] <cbroughton> Maxxion: Even exterel users.
#76 [01:15] <Maxxion> Any time I get on multiplayer I get a either a java recv failed, or a socket write error
#77 [01:15] <cbroughton> Maxxion: Try installing JDK7, it's so much faster and fixes most problems due to networking IO/NIO in my experience.
#78 [01:15] <Maxxion> Um what?
#79 [01:15] <Maxxion> I dont understand techspeak
#80 [01:15] <cbroughton> Maxxion: JDK7 is the new Java 7l.
#81 [01:15] <Maxxion> But would upgrading my RAM/motherboard help at all?
#82 [01:15] <cbroughton> Maxxion: Java 7 * Google "Download Java 7" How much RAM do you have?
#83 [01:16] <Maxxion> 2.49 gb
#84 [01:16] <cbroughton> Maxxion: Recv/Send errors are either software, hardware, or networking issues. And your RAM shouldn't be the problem here.
#85 [01:16] <cbroughton> Maxxion: 2.5 GB is enough to run MC, 256MB is enough frankly.
#86 [01:16] <Maxxion> Then why does MC lag to the point I get about 6 frams a second, on the lowest setting?
#87 [01:16] <Vector> I don't think it would Maxxion, not unless you have a new motherboard whose Integrated networks card has no issues with minecraft
#88 [01:17] <cbroughton> Still, SinZ Vector GreyVulpine any idea on my part?
#89 [01:17] <Maxxion> Uh, what, Vector?
#90 [01:17] <Vector> integrated network controller*
#91 [01:17] <Vector> well
#92 [01:17] <cbroughton> Maxxion: Try installing OptiFPS , search the MC forums for it. It's a nice mod which improves FPS greatly.
#93 [01:17] <SinZ> what videocard u using?
#94 [01:17] <Maxxion> Didnt help.
#95 [01:17] <Maxxion> Some basic chipset
#96 [01:17] <Vector> since the 1.3 update, my NIC fails to operate correctly with minecraft, and I get poor performance under multiplayer
#97 [01:17] <cbroughton> Maxxion: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=132717
#98 [01:18] <Maxxion> I jsut said
#99 [01:18] <Maxxion> It didnt help
#100 [01:18] <SinZ> cbroughton: what video card?
#101 [01:18] <cbroughton> Maxxion: Ahh.
#102 [01:18] <Maxxion> Maxxion Some basic chipset
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#105 [01:18] <cbroughton> Bah, stupid client.
#106 [01:18] <cbroughton> My vidcard is an ATI Radeon HD
#107 [01:18] <cbroughton> I can find the exact in a sec...
#108 [01:18] <Vector> interesting
#109 [01:18] <Vector> i'll get OptiFPS as well
#110 [01:19] <Maxxion> And this motherboard isnt exactly compatible with many video cards
#111 [01:19] <SinZ> i dun need PotiFPS
#112 [01:19] <SinZ> OptiFPS*
#113 [01:19] <cbroughton> SinZ: I can run Crysis, but MC on Fast / Tiny is 4fps. That's pretty cool.
#114 [01:19] <SinZ> i can run Crysis2
#115 [01:19] <SinZ> ^.^
#116 [01:20] <Maxxion> Intel 82945G Express Chipset Family
#117 [01:20] <Maxxion> Thats my video card
#118 [01:20] <cbroughton> My ATI Radeon HD is not plugged in right now, so it's NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU
#119 [01:21] <cbroughton> I've had this problem regardless of Graphics Card/Chipset, which leaves me with either Mobo or CPU to blame, and if somebody makes a game that doesn't work on some CPUs for networking.. then it shouldn't even be considered a game.
#120 [01:21] <cbroughton> NTM my game works in Single player, but not in multi player.
#121 [01:21] <cbroughton> That's the maddening part of it.
#122 [01:21] <Maxxion> What the balls are you talking about?
#123 [01:22] <cbroughton> Maxxion: Talking about my support issue, not yours.
#124 [01:22] <SinZ> if u dont think minecraft is a game, gtfo
#125 [01:22] <cbroughton> SinZ: Lol, I'm just saying: Why would it work in singleplayer, but not in multiplayer ?
#126 [01:22] <Maxxion> Anyways, can someone with an attention span help me?
#127 [01:22] <ksnap_AU> wats wrong maxxion
#128 [01:23] <Maxxion> I keep getting recv failed and socket write errors when I try to play MC multiplayer
#129 [01:23] <cbroughton> Hello ``.
#130 [01:23] <SinZ> serverside or clientside
#131 [01:23] <Maxxion> Huh?
#132 [01:23] <Vector> it is a network issue
#133 [01:23] <Vector> plain and simple
#134 [01:23] <SinZ> sigh.... Is the server getting the errors, or the Minecraft game
#135 [01:23] <Maxxion> THen how do I fix it, since I know its a network issue? >->
#136 [01:23] <Maxxion> I dont know Sin
#137 [01:23] <cbroughton> So yeah, nobody have an idea on my issue?
#138 [01:23] <Vector> it's your minecraft game, not the server
#139 [01:23] <Vector> well
#140 [01:24] <Vector> you can see if the 1.5 update fixes your issue, broughton, but i'm not sure
#141 [01:24] <Maxxion> Vector, how do I fix the issue?
#142 [01:24] <Vector> you've had this longer than i'd say is cause for sudden NIC issues
#143 [01:24] <VoxelHead> I like edam best of all.
#144 [01:24] <cbroughton> Vector: Well, if Pre-Beta --> 1.4 hasn't... I have no hope for 1.5.
#145 [01:24] <Vector> hang on maxxion
#146 [01:25] <Vector> i asked you a question earlier
#147 [01:25] <Vector> was this a recent problem with lag, or has it been existing since before the 1.3 update, if you had minecraft pre 1.3?
#148 [01:25] <cbroughton> And it's not an NIC issue on my part, as I've tried the loopback interface, Linksys WMP54g, and my nVidia GBit LAN chipset.
#149 [01:25] <SinZ> wait just remembered Inaba had the exact problem, its network related
#150 [01:26] <cbroughton> SinZ: Talking to me? (why does nobody in here use name alerting :/)
#151 [01:26] <Vector> by network related, your drivers just aren't communicating properly with the java networking code
#152 [01:26] <Vector> cbroughton: Try updating your network driver to the most updated version
#153 [01:26] <SinZ> pingorama isn't fun cb:
#154 [01:26] <SinZ> ...
#155 [01:26] <SinZ> cbroughton: ^^
#156 [01:26] <cbroughton> Vector: SinZ Linksys hasn't updated WMP54g for years. As per my chipset, it is up-to-date.
#157 [01:27] <Vector> so you said since OCTOBER, which was when you bought the game?
#158 [01:27] <cbroughton> Vector: SinZ I doubt it's a driver problem, since I get the same issue in Fedora... (linux)
#159 [01:27] <cbroughton> Vector: Yes. I bought it just before October, or at the start of October.
#160 [01:27] <Maxxion> I guess Ill look for help somewhere else
#161 [01:27] <cbroughton> Maxxion: This is IRC, poeple talk to everyone at once.
#162 [01:27] <Vector> and you had the issue the moment you tried connecting to multiplayer?
#163 [01:27] <cbroughton> Maxxion: It's not some 1on1 support helpline.
#164 [01:27] <Vector> ya maxxion sorry
#165 [01:27] <Maxxion> But I'm getting talked to at all
#166 [01:27] <Maxxion> not getting*
#167 [01:27] <Vector> I asked you a queststion
#168 [01:28] <Vector> did you answer me, maxxion?
#169 [01:28] <cbroughton> Maxxion: Sure you are, you were asked if it was a clientside or serverside issue just a minute ago.
#170 [01:28] <Maxxion> What question?
#171 [01:28] <Maxxion> And I told you
#172 [01:28] <Maxxion> I dont know
#173 [01:28] <Vector> oh
#174 [01:28] <SinZ> Maxxion: cbroughton asked first anyway =P
#175 [01:28] <Vector> when did you buy the game?
#176 [01:28] <Maxxion> Two days ago
#177 [01:28] <Vector> ok
#178 [01:28] <Vector> then it's most likely your NIC
#179 [01:28] <Maxxion> I know this
#180 [01:28] <Vector> A temporary fix given to me that worked for a few days was to turn limit framerate on
#181 [01:28] <Maxxion> How do I fix it? >->
#182 [01:28] <dolseni> maxxion i get the same problem. single player works fine, multi is borked
#183 [01:29] <Vector> otherwise, just wait until 1.5, and hopefully the problem will be fixed
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#185 [01:29] <Vector> So see if limit framerate helps you a bit
#186 [01:29] <dolseni> yeah, thats what i've heard... wait for 1.5 thats coming out this week
#187 [01:29] <cbroughton> Vector: The flame limiter is coded like crap, but I'll try.
#188 [01:29] <Maxxion> How will limiting my 2 fps framerate stop my internet from crashing?
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#190 [01:29] <Vector> lol
#191 [01:29] <Vector> i honestly don't know how it helped me cope for a few days
#192 [01:29] <Vector> i was told to do that, and it helped a bit
#193 [01:30] <cbroughton> ..........
#194 [01:30] <Astroflex> can someone please help my server wont let me add or remove blocks
#195 [01:30] <Maxxion> SO upgrading my motherboard/ram wont make a difference at all?
#196 [01:30] <cbroughton> WHy the hell does enabling the frame limiter (now 0.5fps) let multiplayer work...
#197 [01:30] <cbroughton> NOTCH, L2CODE!!!! /RAGE
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#199 [01:30] <Vector> it would require using a different NIC. I've been told Atheros chipsets were at fault here
#200 [01:30] <Maxxion> I dont ahve Atheros
#201 [01:30] <cbroughton> Vector: He doesn't even know what that is.
#202 [01:30] <SinZ> cbroughton: Stop raging at minecraft and notch, or dont play minecraft, simple
#203 [01:30] <Maxxion> I didn't even know waht Atheros was until I tried to find a solution
#204 [01:31] <cbroughton> SinZ: I can't believe enabling a frame buffer makes multiplayer work, that doens't evne make sense to me, a programmer :/
#205 [01:31] <Vector> well it would depend on your network interface card. Perhaps that's not the only chipset at fault :\
#206 [01:31] <Maxxion> Then tell me. How to fix my NIC.
#207 [01:31] <Vector> no way to fix it
#208 [01:31] <cbroughton> SinZ: Spoke too soon, multiplayer only works for a short itme.
#209 [01:31] <Maxxion> <-<
#210 [01:31] <cbroughton> SinZ: Then the server disconnects me with endOFStream.
#211 [01:31] <cbroughton> SinZ: (read timed out)
#212 [01:31] <dolseni> interesting, limiting the flames seems to work for me
#213 [01:31] <Maxxion> So Im fucked in other words
#214 [01:31] <dolseni> i can play multiplayer now, wtf
#215 [01:31] <Vector> if you have a wireless card, perhaps you can try using that instead of your ethernet,
#216 [01:32] <VoxelHead> cardless wire
#217 [01:32] <Vector> wait until 1.5, in a few days
#218 [01:32] <Maxxion> I dont sue my ehternet <-<
#219 [01:32] <Maxxion> use*
#220 [01:32] <Maxxion> I highly doubt 1.5 will fix it
#221 [01:32] <Vector> oh so you connect wirelessly then?
#222 [01:32] <Maxxion> Yes
#223 [01:32] <Vector> well if you got minecraft after 1.3 came out and you have an issue with multiplayer, then odds are, the problem arose during the 1.3 update
#224 [01:32] <Vector> it was fine for me before 1.3
#225 [01:32] <Maxxion> Then why wasnt it immediately fixed in 1.4?
#226 [01:33] <Vector> Notch really didn't know what the problem was
#227 [01:33] <cbroughton> Vector: I've had MC before beta, still doesn't work.
#228 [01:33] <Vector> It was as hard an issue for him as it was for us :\
#229 [01:33] <Maxxion> I highly doubt Notch would let something like this run rampant for too long like I heard he has
#230 [01:33] <Astroflex> can anyone help me with issues im having with my minecraft server?
#231 [01:33] <Vector> cbroughton: So it doesn't work on any of your other computers?
#232 [01:33] <Vector> Astro: I'll see if I can help
#233 [01:34] <Vector> Astro: Ask away
#234 [01:34] <cbroughton> Vector: Works on all my other computers.
#235 [01:34] <Maxxion> Nothing better than being told "I'm fucked and to wait"
#236 [01:34] <cbroughton> Vector: Just this computer doesn't. It's pretty cool.
#237 [01:34] <SinZ> which means its the computer at fault
#238 [01:34] <Astroflex> i just started a minecraft server running on linux running essentials and dynmap with mcmyadmin and when i try to now add or remove blocks i cant
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#240 [01:35] <Vector> cbroughten: What is the NIC of that computer, and what is the NIC of one of the computers that works? Perhaps that chipset hates minecraft altogether
#241 [01:35] <cbroughton> SinZ: I've tried different OSes, different RAM, different NICs, different jdks/jres....
#242 [01:35] <SinZ> No mod support here Astroflex
#243 [01:35] <Vector> Astro: Sorry, I don't know how to fix that
#244 [01:35] <Astroflex> grrr
#245 [01:35] <SinZ> go to #bukkit for help
#246 [01:35] <Astroflex> thansk for trying haha
#247 [01:35] <VoxelHead> Stay right there... we're sending someone over to beat you up for playing jokes on the FBI!
#248 [01:35] <cbroughton> Vector: This computer has a Linksys Wireless WMP54g and a nVidia GBit Lan adapter.
#249 [01:36] <Vector> cbroughton: It would be network related if it doesn't work in fedora too, because it uses the same ethernet adapter, same drivers so to speak.
#250 [01:36] <Vector> but coded differently
#251 [01:36] <cbroughton> Vector: This computer can't even be the server when another machine tries to connect to it. That machine then gets the same issue.
#252 [01:37] <cbroughton> Vector: Yet if this computer isn't in the equation, it works. And as I've said, the only things I've not changed are the CPU and Mobo, so if one of them isn't supported...
#253 [01:37] <Vector> cbroughton: Can't rule out NIC entirely. I'm almost positive it is NIC related, because it doesn't work only with that computer.
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#255 [01:37] <cbroughton> Vector: And I've never heard of a game having networking issues because of a CPU .... so the motherboard chipset is the only thing I can think of, which I ruled out with the Linksys Wireless G adapter..
#256 [01:37] <Vector> cbroughton: Because you said it doesn't work with that computer, but works with the other computers.
#257 [01:38] <cbroughton> Vector: Yup, works with other computers if this computer is not in the equation.
#258 [01:38] <Vector> cbroughton: Meaning, everything else external to that computer isn't at fault, which includes the router, and ISP, lol.
#259 [01:38] <cbroughton> Vector: So the NIC Chipset on the Motherboard is at fault, or the CPU is (somehow) at fault. That's all that's left :/
#260 [01:38] <Vector> cbroughton: Would't be CPU.
#261 [01:38] <Vector> Wouldn't*
#262 [01:39] <cbroughton> Vector: And again, PCI Linksys Wireless gets the same problems, doesn't that rule out the NIC Chipset (nVidia GBit LAN) ?
#263 [01:39] <Vector> cbroughton: Is there a way to put the NIC of the other computer into that one, and try that way?
#264 [01:39] <Vector> cbroughton: Well, it would be a real coincidence if both of those on that same computer are at fault.
#265 [01:40] <cbroughton> Vector: Well, No. My other computers are the FreeBSD with builtin 10GBit NIC, and a craptop. :/
#266 [01:40] <cbroughton> Vector: Vector: I've even tried using my TCP Repeater to use another computer to connect to the server, and no go. (If you know what a TCP repeater is.)
#267 [01:40] <Vector> Ugh, your NIC wouldn't be internal would it?
#268 [01:40] <Vector> >.<
#269 [01:40] <Vector> haven't heard of a TCP repeater
#270 [01:40] <cbroughton> Vector: The nVidia GBit on this PC IS internal (motherboard)
#271 [01:41] <cbroughton> Vector: But the Linksys is not.
#272 [01:41] <Vector> i think we're the only ones tlaking now
#273 [01:41] <Vector> for now
#274 [01:41] <cbroughton> Vector: A TCP repeater "repeats" traffic from one IP to another. IE: incoming -> outgoing. I use it to debug routing issues and to forward ports on the network.
#275 [01:41] <Vector> cbroughton: ok so you got another NIC as a card on that computer.
#276 [01:42] <cbroughton> Vector: Here's the fun part! The Linksys doesn't get the issue when plugged into my other PC!
#277 [01:42] <Vector> cbroughton: Oh?
#278 [01:42] <cbroughton> Vector: Yup, when I plug the Linksys PCI Adapter into my FreeBSD machine, it can play MC just fine.
#279 [01:43] <cbroughton> Vector: Well, subFPS, but just fine networking wise.
#280 [01:43] <Vector> cbroughton: What if you plug it into a windows box, will it work fine?
#281 [01:44] <cbroughton> Vector: That machine is a server, and I CBA'd to install Windows to test. HOWEVER: Even when I run it in WINE (WINE Is Not an Emulator is what it stands for, but it runs windows programs) it still works.
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#284 [01:44] <Vector> cbroughton: I know what WINE is :P
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#286 [01:44] <cbroughton> Vector: I'm glad, most don't.
#287 [01:45] <Vector> :)
#288 [01:45] <VoxelHead> =D
#289 [01:45] <Vector> cbroughton: To be extremely certain that it has nothing to do with other hardware of the computer, I'd put that NIC into a windows box.
#290 [01:45] <cbroughton> Vector: So yeah, that (should?) rule out the Linksys from the equation.. leaving the CPU :/
#291 [01:46] <Vector> cbroughton: I honestly have no clue as to why the CPU would be at fault here.
#292 [01:46] <Vector> cbroughton: The issue jus completely blows my mind.
#293 [01:46] <cbroughton> Vector: The AMD Sempron(tm) 3000+ is a very "special" CPU, I wouldn't be surprised if it was at fault here. Games like EVE Online can't even detect that the CPU has SSE support.
#294 [01:48] <Vector> n computing, Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE) is a SIMD instruction set extension to the x86 architecture, designed by Intel and introduced in 1999 in their Pentium III series processors as a reply to AMD's 3DNow! (which had debuted a year earlier). SSE contains 70 new instructions. SIMD instructions can greatly increase performance when exactly the same operations are to be performed on
#295 [01:48] <Vector> multiple data objects. A typical application is graphics processing.
#296 [01:48] <Vector> i did not know this
#297 [01:48] <Vector> cbroughton: You tried limit framerate to no avail, I assume?
#298 [01:49] <cbroughton> Vector: With Limit Framerate ON and Tiny I able to load more than one chunk, but the server still kicks me for disconnect.endOFStream and Read timed out after 30ish second.
#299 [01:50] <Vector> hm
#300 [01:51] <cbroughton> Vector: So unless Minecraft needs SSE? Which makes SOME sense, but not a whole lot (considering I can play Crysis... on MAX.....)
#301 [01:51] <Vector> cbroughton: Doubt it.
#302 [01:52] <cbroughton> Vector: I've even tried compiling MC myself (decompile and compile using the mccoders kit) but no avail. there. It did run MUCH smoother though, FPS whise.
#303 [01:52] <cbroughton> wise *
#304 [01:52] <Vector> interesting
#305 [01:52] <cbroughton> It's pretty cool how we are the only ones talking here, out of a channel with 157 people in it.
#306 [01:52] <Vector> lmao
#307 [01:53] <Vector> and we have to use name identifiers
#308 [01:53] <Vector> i don't think we need to unless someone else p ipes up
#309 [01:53] <Vector> pipes*
#310 [01:53] <Vector> well #minecraft has like 550
#311 [01:53] <cbroughton> I normally use it just so IRC beeps and tells me I have a message.
#312 [01:53] <Vector> more
#313 [01:53] <Vector> oh
#314 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Portal 2 is out, so everybody's off playing that
#315 [01:53] <cbroughton> Portal 2 is just another ploy to microtransaction sell hats. end of story.
#316 [01:53] <Vector> Well Vulpine, I wish we had a solution for broughton
#317 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, network problems, just wait for 1.5
#318 [01:54] <cbroughton> A tophat that one person can see for $2.49? That's bull.
#319 [01:54] <Vector> well
#320 [01:54] <Vector> only problem her e
#321 [01:54] <cbroughton> GreyVulpine: Vector Had this issue since before beta.....
#322 [01:54] <Vector> is he's had it even before the 1.3 update
#323 [01:54] <Vector> Uhm.....
#324 [01:54] <cbroughton> Long before 1.3
#325 [01:54] <Vector> I've had it since 1.3
#326 [01:55] <Vector> If you were confused by what I said, I apologize.
#327 [01:55] <cbroughton> Vector: The same issue? 30 seconds then EOF from server ?
#328 [01:55] <VoxelHead> can i ask the audience?
#329 [01:55] <cbroughton> Here's the cool part: Minecraft gets a write error. THe server gets a read error.
#330 [01:55] <Vector> pretty much, but i can stay on a lot longer sometimes
#331 [01:55] <cbroughton> VoxelHead: ?
#332 [01:55] <VoxelHead> If only I hadn't used up all my lifelines
#333 [01:55] <Vector> He's a bot
#334 [01:55] <Vector> ignore him
#335 [01:55] <VoxelHead> no thanks, don't know where it's been
#336 [01:56] <cbroughton> Vector: ... Then why is he here... lol.
#337 [01:56] <cbroughton> @list
#338 [01:56] <Vector> I can actually stay on for like 2-3 minutes or something
#339 [01:56] <Vector> I know.
#340 [01:56] <cbroughton> Aww, was hoping some idiot had supybot in here :)
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#342 [01:56] <Icystorm> Hello
#343 [01:56] <cbroughton> Hello Icystorm
#344 [01:56] <Vector> he has pre-defined commands to minimize the typing for us
#345 [01:56] <Vector> i've used supybot before
#346 [01:56] <Icystorm> Hello Cbroughton
#347 [01:56] <cbroughton> Moment, I'll try compiling my own java ... (diablo-jdk) To take java networking completely out of the equation.
#348 [01:57] <Vector> your own java? wat?
#349 [01:57] <cbroughton> Vector: Yes. diablo-jdk, it's very nice. Since oracle is a giant money-hungry whoar (lol)
#350 [01:57] <Vector> So where did you get this java from?
#351 [01:57] <cbroughton> Vector: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml
#352 [01:58] <cbroughton> Vector: opensource java "based on" sun java
#353 [01:58] <Vector> so these aren't even made by oracle?
#354 [01:58] <cbroughton> Vector: Nope, the FreeBSD Java team.
#355 [01:59] <cbroughton> Vector: Also see FreeBSD JavaMVM (micro-VM)
#356 [01:59] <Vector> o.o
#357 [01:59] <Vector> cbroughton: Interesting
#358 [01:59] <cbroughton> It's about 20MB and runs most Java apps.
#359 [01:59] <cbroughton> Infact, moment. I think I'll transfer MC source to my FreeBSD machine and compile it into C, that will take java out of the equation.
#360 [01:59] <cbroughton> Yes, FreeBSD has a Java -> C compiler.
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#362 [02:02] <Vector> i'm playing single player atm as well
#363 [02:02] <Vector> compile it into C?
#364 [02:02] <cbroughton> Vector: ...... I get about 300FPS right now with the C native version ...
#365 [02:02] <Vector> how accurate will it convert it?
#366 [02:02] <Vector> there's a native version, what?
#367 [02:02] <cbroughton> Vector: Incredible, I need to find some way to release this under license.
#368 [02:02] <cbroughton> Vector: THe Java -> C Compiled version.
#369 [02:02] <Vector> can i have it?
#370 [02:03] <cbroughton> Vector: It's a unix native file, do you have Linux/UNIX anywhere?
#371 [02:03] <VoxelHead> wtf are you asking me for?
#372 [02:03] <Vector> cbroughton: Oh never mind.
#373 [02:03] <Icystorm> How long does day/night last?
#374 [02:03] <cbroughton> Vector: Lol, I'll see if I can do it on Windows.
#375 [02:03] <cbroughton> Icystorm: Depends on your FPS
#376 [02:03] <Vector> lol
#377 [02:03] <cbroughton> Icystorm: 100FPS = 8 minutes each, it would seem.
#378 [02:04] <cbroughton> Icystorm: 300-500 FPS barely gives you 5 minutes :/
#379 [02:04] <Icystorm> Yeah, sadly I have to limit the FPS, somehow it gives me motion sickness...
#380 [02:04] <Hamish> Ello
#381 [02:05] <cbroughton> Vector: Run MC Sources through SHARPEN and see what you get.
#382 [02:05] <cbroughton> Vector: SHARPEN is a Java -> C# (C Sharp) converter.
#383 [02:06] <cbroughton> Vector: See: http://developer.db4o.com/Blogs/Product/tabid/167/entryid/94/Default.aspx
#384 [02:06] * Hamish is listening to Why Don't You & I by Santana from Shaman.
#384 [02:06] <VoxelHead> Mmmmmm.
#385 [02:06] <Hamish> Year
#386 [02:06] <Hamish> Yeah
#387 [02:07] <Vector> wow
#388 [02:07] <Vector> cbroughton: So do you work for a company?
#389 [02:07] <cbroughton> Vector: I run my own small endevours here and there.
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#391 [02:07] <Vector> cbroughton: Nice man.
#392 [02:08] <cbroughton> Vector: I still can't do it, not even in my C# minecraft ... still no MP, but I can debug it now. I wonder what the stack trace will tell me...
#393 [02:08] <Hamish> Anyone own a ps3
#394 [02:08] <cbroughton> Hamish: Yes, I hacked mine.
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#396 [02:09] <Hamish> I did then it got bricked so we bought a slim for $350
#397 [02:09] <Hamish> I was trying to fix bluray
#398 [02:09] <Icystorm> Just... 350 USD?
#399 [02:09] <Hamish> Au
#400 [02:09] <cbroughton> Also for the sake of support, all of these issues are observed on a CLEAN minecraft.jar
#401 [02:10] <Vector> ok
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#403 [02:10] <Vector> cbroughton: sounds like you really know what to do here :P
#404 [02:10] <Icystorm> Uhm, is it normal that I can't find coal easily?
#405 [02:10] <Hamish> Just bought hawx 1 for ps3 for $15
#406 [02:10] <Vector> cbroughton: I would think it's the fact the game is in java that's what's causing the NIC issues.
#407 [02:10] <cbroughton> Icystorm: The worldgen is shotty at best, try seed aaddfeq, you will be pleasently surprised.
#408 [02:11] <cbroughton> Vector: I've considered making my own Minecraft, but I would need a team. I'm crap at graphics.
#409 [02:11] <Hamish> cbroughton: What do u do on your hacked ps3
#410 [02:11] <cbroughton> Hamish: Play all games.
#411 [02:11] <cbroughton> Hamish: Running another OS is fun too.
#412 [02:12] <Hamish> cbroughton: Same when I had it had a hacked ps3 we are trying to fix it to recover lost data 500gb
#413 [02:13] <Hamish> cbroughton: I like all emulators aswell
#414 [02:13] <cbroughton> Vector: Sigh
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#416 [02:14] <Razorflame> wow, I finally figured out why my laptop was overheating :o
#417 [02:14] <Razorflame> The hot air flows out the back
#418 [02:14] <Razorflame> and the back of the laptop was to a wall
#419 [02:15] <Razorflame> I just moved it away from the wall XD
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#421 [02:15] <PH0ENIX> helloooo
#422 [02:15] <PH0ENIX> again
#423 [02:15] <Razorflame> hi
#424 [02:15] <PH0ENIX> who wants to be awesome?
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#426 [02:15] <Icystorm> How long does it take to a tree to grow?
#427 [02:15] <Razorflame> About a day Icystorm
#428 [02:16] <Razorflame> to two days
#429 [02:16] <Razorflame> or use bonemeal to have it grow instantly
#430 [02:16] <PH0ENIX> can someone join my server and tell me if its lagging?
#431 [02:16] <Razorflame> if all requirements to grow the tree are meant
#432 [02:16] <Razorflame> yeah ph0enix
#433 [02:16] <Razorflame> I'll do it
#434 [02:16] * Hamish is listening to Cretin Hop by The Ramones from Mania.
#434 [02:16] * VoxelHead eyes Hamish
#434 [02:16] <Razorflame> msg me the ips
#435 [02:16] <Hamish> lol
#436 [02:17] <Hamish> VoxelHead: What u mean
#437 [02:17] <PH0ENIX> in pm
#438 [02:17] <Icystorm> Can trees grow underground?
#439 [02:17] <Hamish> Yes
#440 [02:18] <Icystorm> Nice
#441 [02:18] * Hamish is listening to My Life by Dido from No Angel.
#441 [02:18] <VoxelHead> [NP: Nirvana - that song about an enxt]
#442 [02:19] <Razorflame> yes, trees can grow underground
#443 [02:19] <Razorflame> as long as you have torches
#444 [02:19] <Razorflame> and bring dirt down
#445 [02:19] <Hamish> VoxelHead: U want me to play it
#446 [02:20] <zloy31337> hey) can u help me where can i play multiplayer??i need some soft ?
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#448 [02:20] <AkiTensai> zloy31337: To play with others or to host a server?
#449 [02:20] <Icystorm> Somehow I find it fitting to play Warcraft 2 music while I dig.
#450 [02:21] <Hamish> Y
#451 [02:21] <Icystorm> Not sure. Reminds me the workes being lke "Yes, m'lord"
#452 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#453 [02:21] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#454 [02:21] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#455 [02:21] <Razorflame> Vox: What am I?
#456 [02:21] <VoxelHead> Coffee!
#457 [02:22] <Razorflame> LOL
#458 [02:22] <Razorflame> Vox: Do I taste good?
#459 [02:22] <VoxelHead> sometimes
#460 [02:22] <Razorflame> Vox: When don't I taste good?
#461 [02:22] <VoxelHead> Today.
#462 [02:22] <Razorflame> LOL
#463 [02:22] <PH0ENIX> VoxelHead, you got any experence with running MC servers?
#464 [02:22] <VoxelHead> Only if there are no alternatives.
#465 [02:22] <PH0ENIX> ..
#466 [02:22] <PH0ENIX> bot
#467 [02:22] <PH0ENIX> n/m
#468 [02:22] <cbroughton> ?? help
#469 [02:22] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#470 [02:23] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#471 [02:23] * Hamish is listening to Thorny Thicket by The Submarines from Honeysuckle Weeks.
#471 [02:23] <Razorflame> ?? serverfaq
#472 [02:23] <Razorflame> :/
#473 [02:23] <cbroughton> ??< index
#474 [02:23] <Razorflame> ?? index
#475 [02:23] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#476 [02:23] <Razorflame> :o
#477 [02:23] <Icystorm> If I die, I will respawn at a random location or at the point I started?
#478 [02:23] <VoxelHead> shocking
#479 [02:23] <AkiTensai> Vox: Where has it gone? When is it coming back?
#480 [02:23] <VoxelHead> in America
#481 [02:24] <cbroughton> ??>Razorflame smp/servers
#482 [02:24] <Razorflame> :o
#483 [02:24] <VoxelHead> egad!
#484 [02:24] <cbroughton> :o
#485 [02:24] <Razorflame> IcyStorm: Depends on if you have slept in a bed or not
#486 [02:24] <AkiTensai> Icystorm: Point you started or last slept, which ever is later.
#487 [02:24] <Razorflame> if you've slept in a bed
#488 [02:24] <VoxelHead> yikes
#489 [02:24] <Icystorm> So, I need to make a bed.. Ok
#490 [02:24] <Razorflame> it resets your spawn point there
#491 [02:24] <Razorflame> if not, it respawns you where you first started
#492 [02:25] <Icystorm> Yeah, I would feel a bit lost in that case
#493 [02:25] <Icystorm> I walked around for like five minutes to find a nice place
#494 [02:25] <Razorflame> :)
#495 [02:25] <VoxelHead> :-)
#496 [02:25] <Razorflame> I like setting up my houses in the middle of cliffs for some reason
#497 [02:25] <Icystorm> This game needs a minimap XD
#498 [02:25] <AkiTensai> Ah, the journy of "Where is my house from here."
#499 [02:25] <_303> Icystorm: there are mods for that :P
#500 [02:25] <cbroughton> Icystorm: There are mods for~ ^
#501 [02:26] <Icystorm> Cool... I should check them out.
#502 [02:26] <Razorflame> I don't use mods
#503 [02:26] <Razorflame> I like the vanilla experience
#504 [02:26] <Razorflame> :)
#505 [02:26] <Icystorm> Hmm, any place where I can find a list of recipes?
#506 [02:26] <Icystorm> I.e. to make doors, fences, and tools?
#507 [02:26] <cbroughton> Razorflame, say that when you have subFPS on a computer that can run MAX on Crysis.
#508 [02:26] <cbroughton> Let me do this one!
#509 [02:26] <Razorflame> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/crafting
#510 [02:26] <cbroughton> ??>Icystorm wiki/.minecraft
#511 [02:26] <cbroughton> Aww
#512 [02:27] <Razorflame> cbroughton: Most games I play through without any mods
#513 [02:27] <Razorflame> the first time
#514 [02:27] <Razorflame> then I mod them
#515 [02:27] <Icystorm> Wow, so many things to create.
#516 [02:27] <Razorflame> if I feel like it
#517 [02:28] <AkiTensai> Razorflame: So when have you beat Minecraft?
#518 [02:28] <Razorflame> I haven't
#519 [02:28] <Razorflame> and you can't
#520 [02:28] <Razorflame> XD
#521 [02:28] <Icystorm> So, I have to find sheeps.. When a sheep dies, it respawns after a few days, right?
#522 [02:28] <_303> after killing notch in SMP and claim his apple
#523 [02:28] <cbroughton> AkiTensai: You beat minecraft when your mansion is made out of legit diamond blocks.
#524 [02:28] <Icystorm> Or it's like "Hunt down the whole population of sheeps"
#525 [02:28] <AkiTensai> Icystorm: Yes.
#526 [02:28] <Razorflame> Icystorm: they respawn in daylight
#527 [02:28] <Razorflame> or around torches at night
#528 [02:28] <Razorflame> all mobs are respawnable
#529 [02:28] <Icystorm> That explains that annoying cow in my tree farm.
#530 [02:28] <Razorflame> except for mob spawners
#531 [02:29] <cbroughton> Razorflame, Or >13 brightness torchlight
#532 [02:29] <Icystorm> I killed it three times
#533 [02:29] <Icystorm> And it keeps jumping on my trees
#534 [02:29] <Razorflame> yeah
#535 [02:29] <AkiTensai> cbroughton: *snif* I've never had one diamond brick.
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#537 [02:29] <Razorflame> I could've made several diamond bricks in my last game
#538 [02:29] <Razorflame> before it got corrupted
#539 [02:29] <Razorflame> XD
#540 [02:29] <Razorflame> this game I'm working on right now
#541 [02:29] <Razorflame> is on the famous World in the Air seed :)
#542 [02:31] <Razorflame> cbroughton: I don't think you can even get that many diamonds because I think only a certain amount is generated at the beginning of the map
#543 [02:31] <cbroughton> Razorflame: The map is infinite. Diamonds are generated at a set rate, depending on some factors.
#544 [02:31] <Razorflame> ah
#545 [02:31] <AkiTensai> Razorflame: Blocks are generated as that chunk of land is loaded. *points at cbroughton's words*
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#547 [02:42] <Icystorm> To make a furnace, I need lava?
#548 [02:42] <Icystorm> To use*
#549 [02:42] <cbroughton> Icystorm: No
#550 [02:42] <Silent_Samurai> Lolwhat, says who?
#551 [02:42] <cbroughton> Icystorm: You can use any fuel, coal, wood, logs, sticks, lava
#552 [02:42] <Silent_Samurai> Oh you can fuel 100 smelts with a lava bucket
#553 [02:43] <Icystorm> Minecraft has some strong buckets
#554 [02:43] <cbroughton> Icystorm: Yeah, the iron should melt.
#555 [02:43] <cbroughton> Icystorm: Come to think of it, the iron should be maleable.
#556 [02:44] <AkiTensai> The same magic that holds the portal vortex within the obsidian holds the lava in the bucket.
#557 [02:44] <cbroughton> AkiTensai: IE: Plotholes
#558 [02:45] <AkiTensai> if(Game.Magic == Game.Plothole) print("^.^");
#559 [02:45] <cbroughton> No, it's java, you have to use string.compareTo :(
#560 [02:46] <cbroughton> and system.out.println
#561 [02:46] <AkiTensai> qq, I don't know Java.
#562 [02:46] <Silent_Samurai> I'm learning java :D
#563 [02:46] <NotiCon> java is silly
#564 [02:46] <Silent_Samurai> I even got the java edition of the "for dummies" series :P
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#567 [03:01] <genshou> Can lava burn things in a block diagonally adjacent and one layer up (and the lava is sealed by solid blocks on all 6 faces)? :\
#568 [03:02] <AkiTensai> genshou: I know one can swim in one of the corners of such a case. I don't see why burning would be prevented in a similar glitch.
#569 [03:03] <genshou> lemme double check which corner it was
#570 [03:04] <genshou> it was on the SE corner of the lava
#571 [03:04] <genshou> I'm not sure if that's what happened, but I put lava one level below the ground in my tree farm (with a glass block over the top)
#572 [03:04] <AkiTensai> Its been a while, but my memory says the same side.
#573 [03:05] <genshou> no, that's the SW corner rule
#574 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> genshou - yes
#575 [03:05] <genshou> It's in my attempt at an underground tree farm
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#577 [03:05] <genshou> A tree had grown, now it's mysteriously gone :x
#578 [03:05] <GreyVulpine> That bug's been there since the beginning
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#580 [03:05] <genshou> doh, I thought I'd figured out a clever way to light my tree farm when using torch burnout mod
#581 [03:05] <genshou> seems I'll have to bury the lava one more block down :<
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#583 [03:10] <genshou> d'oh, that's what I get for putting my tree farm one layer above highest bedrock xD I can't dig some of these holes down further
#584 [03:10] <VoxelHead> lol
#585 [03:10] <Icystorm> To grow underground trees, I need water, right?
#586 [03:10] <genshou> Icystorm, nope, just light
#587 [03:10] <Icystorm> Torch? Works?
#588 [03:10] <genshou> light and dirt ^^
#589 [03:11] <genshou> Yep, or lava if you don't make my mistake D:
#590 [03:11] <genshou> Just remember that if you have graphics set to Fast or you're in multiplayer, mobs can spawn on the leaves if you don't light them from above
#591 [03:12] <Icystorm> Playing single player on peaceful
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#596 [03:23] <Elvang> What do you guys use to effectively search through large server log files?
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#600 [03:37] <Icystorm> I have found some stone with blue things...
#601 [03:38] <Icystorm> What is it?
#602 [03:38] <Elvang> Lapis Lazuli?
#603 [03:39] <Icystorm> Eh?
#604 [03:39] <Elvang> This? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Lapis_Lazuli_%28Ore%29
#605 [03:40] <Icystorm> Yeah
#606 [03:40] <Icystorm> For a moment I thought you were joking.
#607 [03:41] <Elvang> :)
#608 [03:41] <Icystorm> So, it means there's lava above me?
#609 [03:41] <VoxelHead> -_-
#610 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily
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#613 [03:54] <cbreaker> Its a mystery!
#614 [03:54] <Icystorm> Bedrock spawns at the lowest level of the map?
#615 [03:54] <cbreaker> You could dig straight up to check and see if there is lava
#616 [03:55] <cbreaker> and yes
#617 [03:55] <Icystorm> But if I do so, it would flood my cave
#618 [03:56] <cbreaker> Yes
#619 [03:56] <cbreaker> It would
#620 [03:56] <Icystorm> Actually, lava spreads way slower than water, right?
#621 [03:57] <cbreaker> yeah
#622 [03:57] <Icystorm> So I would have enough time to rush back?
#623 [03:57] <cbreaker> hopefully enough time to block the hole
#624 [03:57] <cbreaker> You should dig at a slope to be safe
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#626 [03:58] <Sooi11> Hello?
#627 [03:58] <cbreaker> oh hi
#628 [03:59] <Sooi11> Need help from someone
#629 [03:59] <Sooi11> my server doesnt work anymore
#630 [04:00] <cbreaker> That's above me
#631 [04:00] <Sooi11> ?
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#633 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific? What happens Sooi11?
#634 [04:18] <Icystorm> I remember the first time I saw a creeper... I was in my underground base with wooden doors and I saw the monster with a sad face, and I thought "Oh, poor one, why are you sad? Are you lost?" and as soon as I opened the door it exploded.
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#637 [04:26] <cbreaker> That just means you didn't love him enough
#638 [04:26] <cbreaker> Try getting closer to him next time
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#640 [04:29] <Icystorm> I need both my hands to mine
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#643 [04:35] <Icystorm> Okay, I found a stone with red marks and that smokes
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#645 [04:36] <Razorflame> Redstone
#646 [04:36] <Razorflame> if it's on the floor, don't mine it while you are directly on top of it
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#648 [04:37] <Icystorm> I see... The wiki says its near lava
#649 [04:37] <Razorflame> yes, very often, it is
#650 [04:39] <Icystorm> More redstone..
#651 [04:41] <Icystorm> Found it!
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#653 [04:42] <Razorflame> ?
#654 [04:42] <Razorflame> found what?
#655 [04:42] <Icystorm> Lava...
#656 [04:42] <Razorflame> yes
#657 [04:42] <Icystorm> I'm burning, when does it stop?
#658 [04:42] <Razorflame> :)
#659 [04:42] <Razorflame> about 5-6 seconds after it starts
#660 [04:43] <NotiCon> when you are in water
#661 [04:43] <Razorflame> It goes out 5-6 after it starts as well
#662 [04:43] <Razorflame> :D
#663 [04:43] <Razorflame> At least it did for me
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#667 [04:48] <CrazedMayhem> hi im trying to find a public server or make a server, can any1 help?
#668 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#669 [04:49] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#670 [04:49] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#671 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> or, the server software is available at:
#672 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> !server
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#674 [04:58] <Wug> anyone awake? or is it just me
#675 [04:58] * Wug pokes everyone
#675 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Everybody's playing portal 2
#676 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Leave us be
#677 [04:59] <Wug> lol
#678 [04:59] <NotiCon> everyone is playing portal 2*
#679 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> So.. many potatoes
#680 [04:59] <NotiCon> nneed some more
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#682 [05:14] <gunther> anyone here able to solve an error when trying to play minecraft on browser and the ,exe?
#683 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> What error
#684 [05:20] <gunther> nullpointerexception error
#685 [05:26] <gunther> I did make a post on it over here http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=17 but seeing at how the posts are answered at slow rates with some going unanswered for a very long time, figured I'd come here to see if it could be fixed here
#686 [05:27] <gunther> this post --> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=292036
#687 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried reinstalling minecraft? What OS are you on?
#688 [05:29] <gunther> yes, reinstalled minecraft and java over 4 times each, and windows xp pro
#689 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> How exactly did you reinstall minecraft?
#690 [05:31] <_303> error is related to StringTranslate which reads the lang/en_US.txt file
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#692 [05:31] <_303> sounds like that file is improperly formatted?
#693 [05:31] <Wug> np
#694 [05:32] <gunther> I went over into app data and deleted the .minecraft folder, then over to temp folder and deleted the www.minecraft.net folder, and redownloading the .exe
#695 [05:32] <gunther> But the same error happens even in browser form
#696 [05:33] <gunther> where would the lang/en_US.txt file be located?
#697 [05:33] <_303> in your jar
#698 [05:34] <_303> offending line is translateTable.load(StringTranslate.class.getResourceAsStream("/lang/en_US.lang"))
#699 [05:34] <_303> which means it can't find the file in the jar maybe?
#700 [05:35] <Wug> gunther, do you have a '!' or any other special characters in your windows username
#701 [05:35] <gunther> yes
#702 [05:35] <gunther> lol is that the problem?
#703 [05:35] <Wug> yep.
#704 [05:35] <Wug> make a new account without one
#705 [05:35] <gunther> xD
#706 [05:35] <gunther> well I can just rename my windows username
#707 [05:35] <gunther> that's easy
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#709 [05:36] <Wug> nope, it wont fix it
#710 [05:36] <Wug> its a java bug
#711 [05:36] <Wug> its not anything that mojang can fix
#712 [05:36] <gunther> would it fix if I reinstall java itself after renaming?
#713 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#714 [05:38] <Wug> I suggest:
#715 [05:38] <Wug> create another user account specifically for minecraft
#716 [05:38] <gunther> that's what I just did
#717 [05:38] <gunther> was going to test it
#718 [05:38] <Wug> create another username and migrate everything to it
#719 [05:38] <Wug> or [advanced] change your current one. it can be done with hax
#720 [05:40] <Vector> Wuyg
#721 [05:40] <Vector> Wug*
#722 [05:40] <Vector> Why exactly is that the problem?
#723 [05:41] <Wug> no idea, its a java bug
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#725 [05:43] * GreyVulpine coughs.
#725 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Limitation of java, as well as windows
#726 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> (!) = not symbol, does funky things in programming
#727 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Also, renaming the windows account, doesn't rename the account's profile folder
#728 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Which will still contain the ! symbol
#729 [05:47] <Wug> you can do registry hax to change it, but I don't recommend it and will not help you
#730 [05:47] <Wug> I've done worse.
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#732 [05:48] * Wug moved all user profiles to a different drive on its desktop and changed the primary drive letter from H to C on a different desktop. Windows was quite pissed about that
#732 [05:48] <BlehBleh> Hey if someone would join 64.223.167.241 it would be greatly appreciated... just trying to see if i hosted my server properly
#733 [05:49] <Wug> be on shortly
#734 [05:49] <BlehBleh> thanks :D
#735 [05:49] <Wug> hmm
#736 [05:49] <Wug> I seem to get stuck at logging in
#737 [05:50] <Wug> !check 64.223.167.241
#738 [05:50] <BlehBleh> Dang
#739 [05:50] <Wug> you've set up both incoming and outgoing firewall rules?
#740 [05:51] <BlehBleh> Yeah I have firewall + AV off, and ports forwarded
#741 [05:51] <BlehBleh> I am however getting scary errors in the console
#742 [05:51] <Wug> do they correspond to my login attepmts? (my ip is 129.21.something)
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#744 [05:52] <NotiCon> what errors?
#745 [05:52] <BlehBleh> After you started joining
#746 [05:53] <Wug> lol
#747 [05:53] <BlehBleh> I was getting something something recv failed
#748 [05:53] <Wug> /CTCP Wug HERP
#749 [05:53] <BlehBleh> And right now it's all spammed with java.lang.IllegalStateException: Failed to remove player. cy@20d9e isn't in chunk 0, -2
#750 [05:53] <BlehBleh> /CTCP?
#751 [05:53] <Wug> its a command, use it
#752 [05:53] <NotiCon> derp
#753 [05:54] <BlehBleh> Will it break my server?
#754 [05:54] <Wug> no, use it here
#755 [05:54] <Wug> say /ctcp wug herp
#756 [05:54] <NotiCon> dont say it write it
#757 [05:55] <BlehBleh> did it
#758 [05:55] <Wug> you did derp, not herp
#759 [05:56] <BlehBleh> Would you like me to try again with herp?
#760 [05:56] <Wug> go ahead
#761 [05:56] <Wug> im playing with autoreplies
#762 [05:57] <Wug> if you do /ctcp wug lol it will respond with stfu
#763 [05:57] <BlehBleh> Unknown CTCP stfu () from Wug
#764 [05:57] <BlehBleh> word
#765 [05:57] <Wug> lol
#766 [05:58] <Wug> pchat is fun
#767 [05:58] <Wug> still can
#768 [05:58] <Wug> 't login
#769 [05:58] <Wug> DAMN YOU ' KEY
#770 [05:58] <BlehBleh> I see your character appear
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#772 [05:58] <BlehBleh> Even with your face texture
#773 [05:58] <Wug> LOL
#774 [05:58] <BlehBleh> :[
#775 [05:58] <Wug> its a boob
#776 [05:59] <Wug> I forgot about that... :p
#777 [05:59] <BlehBleh> It looked like a skin colored tree stump XD
#778 [05:59] <Wug> I should probably change it
#779 [05:59] <BlehBleh> any idea why my server is lame?
#780 [05:59] <Wug> is it bukkit?
#781 [05:59] <BlehBleh> bukkit?
#782 [05:59] <Wug> what software is it
#783 [06:00] <BlehBleh> I'm hosting using the standard minecraft_server.jar
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#785 [06:00] <BlehBleh> i've tried the exe as well, same result
#786 [06:01] <Wug> ok
#787 [06:01] <Wug> stop the server with /stop, then go into the world and delete the players folder
#788 [06:01] <Wug> this will clear everyones inventories, so it might be a good idea to back it up
#789 [06:02] <BlehBleh> ok, now i restart the server?
#790 [06:02] <Wug> yep
#791 [06:03] <Wug> I still can't seem to get in
#792 [06:03] <BlehBleh> :[
#793 [06:03] <BlehBleh> i'm drowning myself in game atm
#794 [06:04] <Wug> maybe its just me, can other people get in?
#795 [06:04] * Wug pokes greyvulpine
#795 [06:04] <BlehBleh> No it's everyone
#796 [06:04] <Wug> most unusual
#797 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#798 [06:04] <BlehBleh> It doesn't have anything to do with my world either, same result starting from scratch
#799 [06:04] <Wug> server's up to date?
#800 [06:04] <Wug> grey, can you test connect 64.223.167.241
#801 [06:05] <Wug> aubot says it works but it doesnt
#802 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Sec
#803 [06:05] <Wug> unusual errors when I try to login
#804 [06:05] <Wug> serverside nly
#805 [06:05] <Wug> he says he is logged in and can see us when we attempt to connect
#806 [06:05] * lemon-rev questions 1.5 is it out ?
#806 [06:05] <BlehBleh> no strange server errors this time around, but same result
#807 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> No
#808 [06:05] <lemon-rev> DOH
#809 [06:06] <Wug> but I never get past 'logging in'
#810 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> I don't seem to get past logging in
#811 [06:06] <BlehBleh> :/
#812 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Recheck port forwarding and/or firewalls
#813 [06:06] <Wug> you can get in locally though?
#814 [06:06] <BlehBleh> Yeah I can get through using either my 192.168 or localhost
#815 [06:07] <Wug> maybe it's your isp being a dick. they're known to do that because servers cost them precious bandwidth that they could be using to extort other peoples arms and legs
#816 [06:07] <BlehBleh> that would be uber lame
#817 [06:07] <Wug> but it seems like its probably your router
#818 [06:07] <Wug> what grey said, double check pf
#819 [06:07] <BlehBleh> There's a website i used that's supposed to check pf
#820 [06:08] <BlehBleh> it said it was open
#821 [06:08] <Wug> it is open in that we can get in
#822 [06:08] <Wug> but I'm not sure stuff can get out
#823 [06:08] <BlehBleh> oh wow
#824 [06:08] <BlehBleh> everything just exploded, now i can't even log in (gonna restart the server)
#825 [06:09] <BlehBleh> java.lang.IllegalStateException: Failed to remove player. cy@a585 isn't in chunk 1, 0 <- This X 10000
#826 [06:09] <Wug> huh]
#827 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Try deleting the map
#828 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> (after shutting down the server)
#829 [06:09] <BlehBleh> sure while you guys are here may as well double chcek
#830 [06:09] <Wug> I had him delete players and it didnt seem to help
#831 [06:10] <Wug> make sure its forwarded to the right ip
#832 [06:10] <Wug> ^ had this issue the other day
#833 [06:11] <Wug> grey, does your client react if I just say grey?
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#835 [06:11] <Wug> citricsquids reacts if I say citric
#836 [06:11] <Wug> apparently I've been pinging him accidentally for weeks :P
#837 [06:11] <BlehBleh> pretty sure my port forwarding is good
#838 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> No, I've removed "grey" from my highlight
#839 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> Got highlighted enough times in the past couple months
#840 [06:12] <Wug> on second thought, its probably not the ip being wrong, since the symptom of that is no server response at all
#841 [06:13] <Wug> but i'd make sure there isnt some router policy interfering
#842 [06:13] <Wug> or maybe windows firewall
#843 [06:13] <Wug> did you allow minecraft through when it first prompted?
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#845 [06:14] <BlehBleh> windows firewall off, avast off, router firewall off and otherwise set to default, port forwarding 25565 for my computer... i can't think of anything that's wrong
#846 [06:15] <Wug> you can probably trun avast back on, i've never had it interfere
#847 [06:16] <BlehBleh> Alright
#848 [06:16] <BlehBleh> I'm so confused, Wug. I'm so confused.
#849 [06:16] <BlehBleh> at least i can play in my server. alone.
#850 [06:17] <Wug> lol
#851 [06:17] <Wug> perhaps email your isp about it
#852 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Hold on....
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#854 [06:17] <BlehBleh> my isp customer service is teh sux
#855 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> Confirm for me your port forwarding, give me the addresses
#856 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> What's your client address?
#857 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> er, internal NAT ip address of the server
#858 [06:18] <BlehBleh> Like the 192.168 address of my cmoputer?
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#860 [06:19] <BlehBleh> 192.168.1.19 is my local address
#861 [06:19] <Wug> grey, i'm fairly sure he's at least got it going to the right machine
#862 [06:20] <Wug> if its going to the wrong ip, login attempts an such don't show up on the server
#863 [06:20] <BlehBleh> the solutions to these sorts of problems are always trivial, may as well check if he has the means
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#865 [06:22] <BlehBleh> I have no idea what this is, I'm just looking through my router features: Do I want static NAT enabled?
#866 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> No
#867 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Are connections showing up on the server's console?
#868 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Do you see Wug and I attempting to connect?
#869 [06:23] <BlehBleh> Yeah
#870 [06:23] <BlehBleh> I could even see you in game
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#872 [06:23] <BlehBleh> for the duration that you were attempting to log in
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#874 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. um
#875 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Besides avast, are you sure you have no other security software on your computer?
#876 [06:25] <BlehBleh> Positive
#877 [06:26] <[L]> Issue?
#878 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding, server, can't connect, timed out error
#879 [06:26] <[L]> Hamachi.
#880 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Server console shows up connection attempts
#881 [06:26] <BlehBleh> Hamachi?
#882 [06:26] <BlehBleh> What about hamachi
#883 [06:26] <[L]> It likes to block it
#884 [06:27] <BlehBleh> I have hamachi
#885 [06:27] <BlehBleh> Should I kill hamachi?
#886 [06:27] <[L]> Disable it temporarily.
#887 [06:27] <Wug> eeww
#888 [06:27] <[L]> I've heard many problems with it interferign and had it cause issues myself
#889 [06:27] <BlehBleh> I wasn't connected to any networks, but I just killed the hamachi network adapter
#890 [06:27] * Wug doesn't like hamachi
#890 [06:27] <BlehBleh> restarting server
#891 [06:27] <Wug> restart the server now it's off
#892 [06:27] <Wug> ninjad
#893 [06:28] <BlehBleh> Ok try now
#894 [06:28] <Wug> still nothing
#895 [06:28] <[L]> Worth a shot
#896 [06:28] <Wug> what if you set the port to 80 in server.properties
#897 [06:29] <[L]> Won't work
#898 [06:29] <BlehBleh> java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: socket write error
#899 [06:29] <Wug> run with admin privalages
#900 [06:29] <Wug> do you host a web server?
#901 [06:29] <BlehBleh> restarting server again, hold on P:
#902 [06:29] <gPad2002> Wug: Running java as admin?
#903 [06:29] <BlehBleh> no
#904 [06:30] <Wug> some systems need admin privalages to bind to ports less than 1024
#905 [06:30] <Wug> *nix
#906 [06:30] <Wug> windows might
#907 [06:30] <Wug> idl
#908 [06:30] <Wug> k
#909 [06:30] <BlehBleh> Errr how do I run as admin if I'm running from command line
#910 [06:30] <[L]> Windows might be blocking it
#911 [06:30] <BlehBleh> I assume running my .bat file as admin won't do anything
#912 [06:31] <Wug> ^ that will do it
#913 [06:31] <BlehBleh> ok try now then
#914 [06:32] <[L]> Your router may have a built in firewall too
#915 [06:32] <BlehBleh> already disabled
#916 [06:32] <Wug> is 80 forwarded
#917 [06:32] <[L]> 80 is auto forwarded aint it?
#918 [06:32] <Wug> grey, can you test connect 64.223.167.241:80
#919 [06:32] <gPad2002> Why would it be auto forwarded?
#920 [06:32] <Wug> !check 64.223.167.241:80
#921 [06:32] <Wug> lolwoops soz grey
#922 [06:33] <BlehBleh> port 80? o_O
#923 [06:33] <Wug> i was going through my history and stopped at the first one with the ip
#924 [06:33] <Wug> did you change server.properties?
#925 [06:33] <gPad2002> It isn't the port
#926 [06:33] <Wug> you should also forward 80 from the router
#927 [06:33] <BlehBleh> nope, it was all just generated 10 minutes ago
#928 [06:33] <[L]> 80 = Web browsing port
#929 [06:33] <gPad2002> If it can bind the port, the port is fine
#930 [06:33] <Wug> i know
#931 [06:33] <gPad2002> [L]: Which is precisely why you don't use it
#932 [06:34] <Wug> but its only for incoming connections
#933 [06:34] <gPad2002> Windows likes to bind 80
#934 [06:34] <Wug> only if you run a web server
#935 [06:34] <gPad2002> No
#936 [06:34] <gPad2002> IIS
#937 [06:34] <Wug> disable it
#938 [06:34] <gPad2002> Also tends to randomly bind 80
#939 [06:34] <gPad2002> Yeah, you can't
#940 [06:34] <gPad2002> I've tried
#941 [06:34] <gPad2002> :P
#942 [06:34] <Wug> it can be stopped from the services menu
#943 [06:34] <gPad2002> Yeah
#944 [06:34] <gPad2002> It starts itself again
#945 [06:34] <Wug> I run apache which binds to 80
#946 [06:35] <BlehBleh> Wait is it actually worth me forwarding port 80? wat?
#947 [06:35] <Wug> I've never had an issue with something else snarfing it
#948 [06:35] <Wug> it's worth a shot
#949 [06:35] <gPad2002> No
#950 [06:35] <gPad2002> Don't bother
#951 [06:35] <Wug> just try it
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#953 [06:35] <gPad2002> Just make sure your local IP is set statically by your router,
#954 [06:35] <gPad2002> Make sure the correct ports are forwarded to said IP
#955 [06:35] <gPad2002> If you get socket errors, it's nothing to do with the port or router
#956 [06:35] <Wug> we've established that connections are making it to the server
#957 [06:36] <Wug> its just nothing's making it back
#958 [06:36] <gPad2002> Then there's no need to fuck with the ports :P
#959 [06:36] <Wug> no socket errors
#960 [06:36] <gPad2002> He got a write error
#961 [06:36] <gPad2002> Didn't you see that?
#962 [06:36] <Wug> you missed the first part of this
#963 [06:36] <gPad2002> BlehBleh: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: socket write error
#964 [06:37] <BlehBleh> I've been seeing errors like that sporadically
#965 [06:37] <BlehBleh> when people try to join
#966 [06:37] <BlehBleh> But I do see them on screen
#967 [06:37] <Wug> we've been dealing with this more: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Failed to remove player. cy@a585 isn't in chunk 1, 0
#968 [06:37] <gPad2002> That's a normal error
#969 [06:37] <gPad2002> You get that when you don't kill the server properly
#970 [06:37] <Wug> i've never even heard of it before today
#971 [06:37] <Wug> but we're getting it after fresh world clears
#972 [06:37] <BlehBleh> *raises hand* yeah i probably just hit the x
#973 [06:37] <Wug> on first runs
#974 [06:37] <gPad2002> Yeah, don't hit the x
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#976 [06:38] <gPad2002> Type stop instead
#977 [06:38] <BlehBleh> noted
#978 [06:38] <Wug> ....
#979 [06:38] <gPad2002> Now
#980 [06:38] <gPad2002> Do you have NAT on on your router?
#981 [06:39] <BlehBleh> How would I know/what is NAT?
#982 [06:39] <gPad2002> It'll be in the settings somewhere
#983 [06:39] <Wug> network address translation
#984 [06:39] <BlehBleh> There's a static NAT setting
#985 [06:39] <gPad2002> Is it on?
#986 [06:39] <BlehBleh> no
#987 [06:39] <gPad2002> You need hat
#988 [06:39] <gPad2002> That*
#989 [06:40] <BlehBleh> really?
#990 [06:40] <gPad2002> Yeah
#991 [06:40] <gPad2002> If you don't have it
#992 [06:40] <BlehBleh> Ok let's try this
#993 [06:40] <BlehBleh> Static NAT device: SKYNET
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#995 [06:40] <gPad2002> Your PC will get a new local IP every time
#996 [06:40] <gPad2002> Every time your PC connects to the router that is
#997 [06:40] <BlehBleh> So setting this
#998 [06:40] <gPad2002> So you don't have to keep forwarding
#999 [06:40] <BlehBleh> Setting this gives my computer the same IP every time?
#1000 [06:40] <gPad2002> That, and
#1001 [06:41] <gPad2002> Some routers prevent inbound connections without it
#1002 [06:41] <BlehBleh> How does this differ from a static IP?
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#1004 [06:41] <BlehBleh> set in network connections
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#1006 [06:41] <gPad2002> It's your local IP
#1007 [06:41] <gPad2002> and it's assigned by the router
#1008 [06:41] <gPad2002> Rather than your computer trying to assign it
#1009 [06:41] <gPad2002> The latter can cause IP conflicts
#1010 [06:42] <BlehBleh> Ok
#1011 [06:42] <BlehBleh> i've enabled it
#1012 [06:43] <Wug> well ive got some things to do
#1013 [06:43] <Wug> gpad, if you solve it, do leave me a memo detailing how
#1014 [06:44] <BlehBleh> Wug, could you try to join again?
#1015 [06:44] <Wug> no change
#1016 [06:44] <BlehBleh> :[
#1017 [06:44] <BlehBleh> i'm going to put my dick in mashed potatoes
#1018 [06:44] <Wug> eew
#1019 [06:44] <Wug> why
#1020 [06:45] <BlehBleh> I don't care why, my life is over
#1021 [06:45] <BlehBleh> I wonder if this could have anything to do with java versions
#1022 [06:45] <Wug> prolly not
#1023 [06:46] <Wug> email your isp asking if they allow traffic on 25565
#1024 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> BlehBleh - You didn't modify server-ip in server.properties, right?
#1025 [06:46] <BlehBleh> nope didn't touch it
#1026 [06:46] <Wug> no, we wouldn't be able to connect if it was borked
#1027 [06:47] <Wug> log into the router and rangeforward everything
#1028 [06:47] <Wug> from 1 to 65535
#1029 [06:47] <BlehBleh> rofl
#1030 [06:47] <Wug> then try other ones
#1031 [06:47] <BlehBleh> minor security hole
#1032 [06:47] <BlehBleh> let's do it
#1033 [06:47] <Wug> like 80, 443, 65534, etc
#1034 [06:47] <Wug> ports other important stuf commonly uses
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#1036 [06:48] <Wug> its possible that if traffic is blocked on 25565 for 'security reasons' then it wont be on web ports or other such things
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#1038 [06:49] <BlehBleh> well everthing's being forwarded now from 1 to 65535
#1039 [06:49] <BlehBleh> What now good sir
#1040 [06:49] <Wug> !check 64.223.167.241
#1041 [06:49] <Wug> is it running?
#1042 [06:50] <BlehBleh> no
#1043 [06:50] <Wug> in server.properties change the port to 21 and start it
#1044 [06:50] <Wug> 21 is the port for ftp
#1045 [06:50] <BlehBleh> FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!.... on 25565 now
#1046 [06:50] <Wug> iirc
#1047 [06:50] <BlehBleh> wait
#1048 [06:50] <BlehBleh> my bad
#1049 [06:50] <Wug> already running?
#1050 [06:50] <BlehBleh> yeah
#1051 [06:50] <Wug> only one thing can bind per port
#1052 [06:50] <BlehBleh> Ok i'ts running on 25565
#1053 [06:51] <BlehBleh> you want me to change it to 21 in properties?
#1054 [06:51] <Wug> yeah, do that and restart
#1055 [06:51] <BlehBleh> ok it's up
#1056 [06:51] <Wug> !check 64.223.167.241:21
#1057 [06:52] <Wug> im still not having much success
#1058 [06:52] <BlehBleh> same exact problem?
#1059 [06:52] <Wug> yep
#1060 [06:52] <BlehBleh> hmm
#1061 [06:52] <Wug> are the ports forwarded for tcp, udp, or both, or other
#1062 [06:52] <BlehBleh> both
#1063 [06:52] <Wug> ok
#1064 [06:53] <Wug> (minecraft uses exclusively tcp)
#1065 [06:53] <BlehBleh> Ah, well no harm right?
#1066 [06:53] <Wug> probly not
#1067 [06:53] <Wug> try port 1337
#1068 [06:53] <BlehBleh> Ok
#1069 [06:53] <BlehBleh> may work
#1070 [06:53] <BlehBleh> stop
#1071 [06:53] <BlehBleh> *oops
#1072 [06:53] <BlehBleh> now running on port 1337
#1073 [06:54] <Wug> !check 64.223.167.241:1337
#1074 [06:54] <Wug> is the server registering connection attempts at all?
#1075 [06:54] <BlehBleh> yeah
#1076 [06:55] <BlehBleh> it's like derp derp connected derp derp errors derp
#1077 [06:55] <Wug> what model of router do you have
#1078 [06:55] <BlehBleh> It's my modem, some sort of westell thing
#1079 [06:55] <BlehBleh> 09FX11014295
#1080 [06:56] <BlehBleh> model A90-750018-07
#1081 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Question, how are you running the server? You said you clicked a bat file?
#1082 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> What's in the bat file?
#1083 [06:56] <BlehBleh> I made the bat, it's just java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1084 [06:56] <BlehBleh> I've tried the gui version as well and same result
#1085 [06:57] <Wug> you could try sending an email to westell
#1086 [06:57] <Wug> http://www.westell.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1055&arcsection=support
#1087 [06:57] <Wug> they might be able to highlight whatever secret setting is preventing it from working
#1088 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you screenshot the port forwarding settings you did on your westell?
#1089 [06:58] <BlehBleh> I don't know, I've forwarded ports for Halo and can host there fine
#1090 [06:58] <BlehBleh> Sure
#1091 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Upload it to imgur or something
#1092 [07:04] <BlehBleh> http://i.imgur.com/wC5Kc.png http://i.imgur.com/v1prs.png
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#1094 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> That looks right, if your minecraft server is on "Skynet"
#1095 [07:07] <BlehBleh> yes yes it is
#1096 [07:07] <Wug> can you turn on dmz?
#1097 [07:08] <BlehBleh> DMZ Hosting is not available while Static NAT is enabled.
#1098 [07:08] <BlehBleh> Ok i've got this brilliant idea
#1099 [07:09] <BlehBleh> I'm going to repeat the following sequence until it works: Restart computer, restart router, slam head on desk
#1100 [07:09] <BlehBleh> be back in a few
#1101 [07:09] <Wug> dont forget slam router on computer
#1102 [07:09] <BlehBleh> will do
#1103 [07:10] <Wug> well im leaving too
#1104 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I'd be more responsive if portal2 wasn't completely fun
#1105 [07:11] <Wug> don't worry about
#1106 [07:11] <Wug> it
#1107 [07:11] <gPad2002> :P
#1108 [07:11] <gPad2002> I'd be playing too if i was at home
#1109 [07:11] <Wug> you'll be over it in 2 days :p
#1110 [07:11] <gPad2002> Unfortunately, I'm not D:
#1111 [07:11] <Wug> also, I've devised the best april fools day joke ever
#1112 [07:12] <Wug> i'm totally doing this next year. my friends will all be epic trolle
#1113 [07:12] <Wug> d
#1114 [07:13] <Wug> long story short, I'm going to pretend to be a furry for april 1. they'll think I'm joking because its april fools day
#1115 [07:13] <gPad2002> Lols
#1116 [07:13] <Wug> I'll maintain the joke until the end of april 2
#1117 [07:13] <Wug> they'll have totally bought it by then
#1118 [07:14] <gPad2002> :P
#1119 [07:14] <Wug> lol
#1120 [07:14] <Wug> now who to get in on it
#1121 [07:14] <Wug> I fail at arts, I'll need help there
#1122 [07:15] * gPad2002 shrugs and shoves Wug in the direction of #furry
#1122 [07:15] <Wug> thats the thing, is I've never been there
#1123 [07:15] <Wug> nor will I ever go there
#1124 [07:15] <gPad2002> Same
#1125 [07:16] <gPad2002> Lol
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#1127 [07:16] <Wug> but I know enough of them irl to almost make it believable
#1128 [07:16] <Wug> (I ward them off with garlic)
#1129 [07:16] <BlehBleh> I've eliminated variables
#1130 [07:16] <Wug> it's the router/modem
#1131 [07:16] <Wug> almost certainly
#1132 [07:17] <BlehBleh> I uninstalled hamachi, banged my head on the desk losing brain cells, restarted my computer
#1133 [07:17] <BlehBleh> haven't restarted router yet
#1134 [07:17] <Wug> I thought it may have been the isp, but trying other ports didnt work
#1135 [07:17] <BlehBleh> Ok going downstairs to restart it then
#1136 [07:17] <gPad2002> Wait
#1137 [07:17] <BlehBleh> Yeah?
#1138 [07:17] <gPad2002> If his HALO server works
#1139 [07:17] <gPad2002> Why doesn't he try THOSE ports?
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#1141 [07:18] <BlehBleh> Eh
#1142 [07:18] <BlehBleh> Halo was being run on a different machine
#1143 [07:18] <gPad2002> Ahk
#1144 [07:18] * Wug gets up
#1144 [07:19] * Wug 's back goes *kkschkshksk*
#1144 [07:19] <BlehBleh> I don't want to clear the settings of my router, will unplugging it and replugging suffice?
#1145 [07:19] * gPad2002 ties Wug to his chair
#1145 [07:19] <gPad2002> Yes it will
#1146 [07:19] <BlehBleh> OK on me way
#1147 [07:19] * Wug teledodges
#1147 [07:19] <gPad2002> 'bai
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#1149 [07:20] <Wug> voxelhead, are you awake
#1150 [07:20] <gPad2002> VoxelHead: Shut up
#1151 [07:20] <Wug> evidently not
#1152 [07:20] <gPad2002> Nope
#1153 [07:20] <gPad2002> ?? Index
#1154 [07:20] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1155 [07:20] <gPad2002> Shrug
#1156 [07:20] <Wug> vox, courtmartial gpad2002
#1157 [07:21] <gPad2002> Lolwut
#1158 [07:22] <Wug> vox wont cuz hes 'sleeping' (how do bots sleep?)
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#1160 [07:22] <BlehBleh_> Holy hell that router takes forever to reset
#1161 [07:22] <gPad2002> Lol.
#1162 [07:22] <gPad2002> They often do
#1163 [07:24] <BlehBleh> Ok I have all other programs closed, antivirus + firewall off, ports forwarded, and i'm generating a world from scratch. If this doesn't work I don't know what will.
#1164 [07:25] <BlehBleh> 64.223.93.217
#1165 [07:26] <BlehBleh> Bring it on
#1166 [07:26] <gPad2002> !check 66.233.93.217:25565
#1167 [07:26] <BlehBleh> >_>
#1168 [07:26] <BlehBleh> <_<
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#1170 [07:27] <Wug> did your ip change
#1171 [07:27] <BlehBleh> No
#1172 [07:27] <BlehBleh> !check 64.223.93.217
#1173 [07:27] <BlehBleh> whowhoa
#1174 [07:27] <Wug> gpad had the wrong one for some reason
#1175 [07:28] <BlehBleh> AuBot decided it was fine after I logged in
#1176 [07:28] <BlehBleh> Maybe the server had to initialize something
#1177 [07:28] <BlehBleh> since the world was just generated
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#1179 [07:28] <Wug> (and the ips were different each time)
#1180 [07:28] <BlehBleh> Oh. That too XD
#1181 [07:28] <BlehBleh> Nevermind
#1182 [07:28] <BlehBleh> After I logged in I got java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#1183 [07:29] <Wug> I still can't seem to log in either
#1184 [07:30] <BlehBleh> I'm really curious what this means
#1185 [07:31] <Wug> I still suspect router
#1186 [07:33] <BlehBleh> http://pastebin.com/vD942eR3
#1187 [07:33] <BlehBleh> just fyi
#1188 [07:34] <gPad2002> Switch to bucket
#1189 [07:34] <gPad2002> Bukkit*
#1190 [07:34] <gPad2002> That looks like a server bug
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#1192 [07:41] * GreyVulpine just finished portal2
#1192 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> That was hella fun
#1193 [07:42] <gPad2002> Wit
#1194 [07:42] <gPad2002> You played 10h straight?
#1195 [07:42] <gPad2002> Has it been out that long? :P
#1196 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> 7 hours
#1197 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> First time though, single player.
#1198 [07:45] <okraits> i tried portal once and found it rather boring
#1199 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Did you play it all the way through?
#1200 [07:46] <gPad2002> Thats because you didn't play much
#1201 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> The first half of the game is pretty much the tutorial
#1202 [07:46] <okraits> no, just tried it for about 30 min
#1203 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> The real fun doesn't come till later
#1204 [07:46] <okraits> ah ok
#1205 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Then you missed out
#1206 [07:46] <okraits> i missed some atmosphere somehow
#1207 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> You did.
#1208 [07:46] <okraits> heh
#1209 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> If you ever do decide to go back to it, play it all the way though, listen to the dialog
#1210 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> It's about 3 hours, from beginning to end
#1211 [07:47] <okraits> the female voice you mean?
#1212 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1213 [07:47] <okraits> ok, i will
#1214 [07:53] <Wug> so youre all done with portal 2.
#1215 [07:54] <Wug> now all you have to do is the co op
#1216 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Just the single player, promised to play Coop with a friend later
#1217 [07:54] <Wug> and then you're done with it forever
#1218 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, never!
#1219 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> You don't know how many times I've played through portal 1
#1220 [07:54] <gPad2002> Topic set by GLaDOS
#1221 [07:54] <gPad2002> lol
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#1231 [08:47] <B4STEE> hey
#1232 [08:47] <B4STEE> My minecraft wont download the files needed to play
#1233 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#1234 [08:47] <B4STEE> ye
#1235 [08:47] <B4STEE> I've bought it today
#1236 [08:47] <B4STEE> 1-2 hours ago
#1237 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> What's the username?
#1238 [08:48] <B4STEE> B4STEE
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#1240 [08:48] <Sooi11> Hey
#1241 [08:48] <GreyVulpine> Okay, what error are you getting B4STEE?
#1242 [08:48] <Sooi11> How can i check that my server works again?
#1243 [08:48] <B4STEE> none it hangs on Downloading packages
#1244 [08:48] <GreyVulpine> with !check
#1245 [08:49] <_303> !check 64.223.93.217
#1246 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> B4STEE - Does it give you a progress bar?
#1247 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> If so, how far does it get?
#1248 [08:49] <Sooi11> !check 178.118.140.26:50500
#1249 [08:49] <B4STEE> yes and it keeps at the start
#1250 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1251 [08:49] <B4STEE> it also doesnt show anything below Downloading packages
#1252 [08:49] <B4STEE> like wich files its downloading
#1253 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> Weird.
#1254 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> Are you connected via ethernet or wireless? How is your internet connection?
#1255 [08:50] <B4STEE> my internet connection is fine and by cable not wireless
#1256 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> And you got the client via minecraft.net?
#1257 [08:51] <B4STEE> yes
#1258 [08:52] <B4STEE> I've just tried the client on the net and it doesnt download either
#1259 [08:52] <GreyVulpine> On windows?
#1260 [08:52] <B4STEE> yes windows 7 64-bit
#1261 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> Could you pull up your start menu, and in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1262 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> Go find the .minecraft folder, and go into it.
#1263 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything you see in there, and relaunch minecraft
#1264 [08:54] <B4STEE> still wont load anything
#1265 [08:55] <B4STEE> the only thing that appears in the .minecraft folder is lastlogin and bin/version
#1266 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, do you have any security software or firewalls on your computer that would block minecraft or java from connecting?
#1267 [08:56] <B4STEE> maybe Gdata i was just going to turn it off
#1268 [08:57] <B4STEE> ok got it thnx :=D
#1269 [08:57] <B4STEE> GData is blocking it
#1270 [08:57] <B4STEE> now it downloads
#1271 [08:57] <B4STEE> do i have to turn it off everytime?
#1272 [08:57] <B4STEE> cuz then i have no security
#1273 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll have to configure Gdata to let java through
#1274 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> I'm not familiar with gdata, so I won't be of much help to you there
#1275 [08:58] <B4STEE> ye I can put sites in to allow but I dont know from what site it downloads
#1276 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> *.minecraft.net
#1277 [08:59] <B4STEE> k
#1278 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Or wait.. no, it uses amazon
#1279 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Crap, um, I don't remember amazon's ec2 cloud URL off the top of my head
#1280 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Can't you set an allow for the java app?
#1281 [09:00] <B4STEE> no only sites :s
#1282 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Give me one minute then
#1283 [09:00] <B4STEE> ok Ill wait :D
#1284 [09:01] <_303> http://s3.amazonaws.com/ ?
#1285 [09:01] <_303> that's where it downloads the jars from
#1286 [09:01] <B4STEE> ok ill try ;)
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#1288 [09:02] <B4STEE> doesnt work :s
#1289 [09:03] <B4STEE> when i use Force update and turn antivirus on it still blocks it, I've added .minecraft.net and the amazon to exception list
#1290 [09:04] <oldtopman> Does the web version work?
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#1292 [09:04] <GreyVulpine> Try http://s3.amazonaws.com/*
#1293 [09:04] <B4STEE> no also blocks
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#1295 [09:05] <B4STEE> hmmm still wont download, but it downloads when i turn off antivirus
#1296 [09:06] <B4STEE> so i'll just have to turn off antivirus for updating
#1297 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any logs in gdata?
#1298 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> Maybe something in there will give us a clue
#1299 [09:07] <B4STEE> I cant find any logs
#1300 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't know...
#1301 [09:09] <B4STEE> ye but I'll just have to turn off antivirus when trying to update
#1302 [09:09] <B4STEE> only way it works
#1303 [09:10] <Sooi11> can i have some help?
#1304 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1305 [09:10] <Sooi11> my server doesnt work anymore
#1306 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> What's the issue?
#1307 [09:10] <Sooi11> Someone just came to update tmy internet adapter
#1308 [09:10] <Sooi11> and my ip changed
#1309 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Okay... Your public IP, or your internal private IP?
#1310 [09:11] <Sooi11> both
#1311 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Alright... then you'll need to update your port forwarding
#1312 [09:11] <Sooi11> I did
#1313 [09:11] <Sooi11> and i try to join with my new public ip
#1314 [09:11] <Sooi11> doesnt work
#1315 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Alright... could you confirm for me, what your new internal IP is right now?
#1316 [09:12] <Sooi11> 192.168.1.198
#1317 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Alright, and you updated your port forwarding rule in your router with that address?
#1318 [09:13] <Sooi11> Yeah and my port is 50500
#1319 [09:13] <Sooi11> and i did that
#1320 [09:13] <Sooi11> now i tried to join with my public ip :50500 doesnt work
#1321 [09:14] <oldtopman> Sooi11: Your public IP doesn't work when you're inside of your own network.
#1322 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> Sure it does oldtopman
#1323 [09:14] <Sooi11> yeah
#1324 [09:14] <Sooi11> i did before
#1325 [09:14] <Sooi11> it worked fine
#1326 [09:14] <oldtopman> GreyVulpine: Not for me.
#1327 [09:15] <Sooi11> i have to enter the same thing for TCP and UDP right?
#1328 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft only uses TCP for now
#1329 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you screenshot your port forwarding pages?
#1330 [09:16] <Sooi11> k
#1331 [09:16] <Sooi11> how do i send it?
#1332 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Upload it to imgur.com
#1333 [09:19] <Sooi11> can i just send the link now?
#1334 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1335 [09:20] <Sooi11> http://imgur.com/xWkhr
#1336 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Connecting locally works for you Sooi11?
#1337 [09:22] <Sooi11> yes
#1338 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Is it running right now?
#1339 [09:23] <Sooi11> yep
#1340 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> !check 178.118.140.26
#1341 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, on your dlink router, could you go to the status page, and make sure the public/wan/internet ip there is 178.118.140.26?
#1342 [09:24] <Sooi11> where can i find that?
#1343 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> On your router's status page
#1344 [09:26] <Sooi11> its not on there
#1345 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Then uh, the main page of the router?
#1346 [09:27] <Sooi11> thats the status page
#1347 [09:28] <Sooi11> this is on the log page: Blocked incoming TCP packet from 74.125.77.102:80 to 192.168.0.198:57755 as FIN:ACK received but there is no active connection
#1348 [09:28] <Sooi11> does this have something to do with it?
#1349 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. 192.168.0.198?
#1350 [09:29] <Sooi11> Yeah thats whats weird
#1351 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> You're absolutely sure your computer's ip address is 1.198?
#1352 [09:29] <Sooi11> on my router page it says 198.168.0.198
#1353 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1354 [09:30] <Sooi11> i will take another screenshot
#1355 [09:31] <Sooi11> http://imgur.com/81Q8s
#1356 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Aaah, I see now
#1357 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> You're dual-NATed
#1358 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Your computer does have 192.168.1.198, that's correct
#1359 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Your router has the private IP address of 192.168.0.1
#1360 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Meaning, your router is sitting behind another router
#1361 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you please go to http://192.168.0.1
#1362 [09:32] <_303> crud
#1363 [09:32] <_303> 1.5 is out
#1364 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> It is not...
#1365 [09:33] <Sooi11> doesnt work
#1366 [09:33] <Sooi11> page not found
#1367 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> http://192.168.0.1 doesn't work?
#1368 [09:33] <Sooi11> doesnt work yes
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#1370 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
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#1372 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. what kind/brand of modem do you have, do you know?
#1373 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Can you find out?
#1374 [09:35] <Sooi11> what do you mean?
#1375 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Do you know the model and brand of the modem you get the internet from?
#1376 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> It's not the dlink router.. it'll be another box
#1377 [09:35] <Sooi11> Telenet
#1378 [09:35] <Sooi11> you mean that?
#1379 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Um.. that's the name of the.. ISP? modem?
#1380 [09:36] <Sooi11> ._. idk
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#1382 [09:37] <Sooi11> where can i find?
#1383 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you know where the hookup for your internet comes in? what's the first box it plugs into?
#1384 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> The brand/model will be printed on that
#1385 [09:39] <Sooi11> srry dont understand what you mean
#1386 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Do you know your dlink router? Where does it get hooked up from?
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#1388 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> One cable is obviously going to your computer, where is it hooked up to.
#1389 [09:40] <Sooi11> well the telenet thing
#1390 [09:41] <Sooi11> box
#1391 [09:41] <Sooi11> thing..
#1392 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm...
#1393 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> Could you try connecting to http://192.168.62.1 ?
#1394 [09:41] <Sooi11> and my page not found
#1395 [09:42] <Sooi11> but my dlink adapter is not connected to my pc
#1396 [09:42] <Sooi11> its wireless
#1397 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> Alright.. um.
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#1399 [09:43] <anchuin> hi, anyone there?
#1400 [09:43] <Sooi11> 1.5 is out
#1401 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> No it isn't.
#1402 [09:43] <Sooi11> it is!
#1403 [09:43] <anchuin> that's my question
#1404 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> No, it isn't
#1405 [09:44] <Sooi11> im on 1.4 right now
#1406 [09:44] <anchuin> it is, you have to delete bin folder ;)
#1407 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#1408 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> 1.5 is not out
#1409 [09:44] <Sooi11> i just had to update it :o
#1410 [09:44] <anchuin> delete bin, and update ;)
#1411 [09:44] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#1412 [09:44] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#1413 [09:44] <GreyVulpine> Well I'll be
#1414 [09:45] <Sooi11> grass block are weird
#1415 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> jeb fixed the side grass textures
#1416 [09:46] <Sooi11> Minecraft Beta 1.5
#1417 [09:46] <Sooi11> (You will need to update your servers as well)
#1418 [09:46] <Sooi11> * Weather (rain, snow, thunder)
#1419 [09:46] <Sooi11> * Statistics
#1420 [09:46] <Sooi11> * Achievements
#1421 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> Sooi11 - I'm just a little confused, I'm sure that your router is getting a connection from 192.168.0.1
#1422 [09:46] <Sooi11> * Detector rail
#1423 [09:46] <Sooi11> * Booster rail
#1424 [09:46] <Sooi11> * Performance improvements
#1425 [09:46] <Sooi11> More statistics and achievements will be added over time as we develop the game. They’re only stored locally at the moment, but we’ll slowly be rolling out online storing of achievements over time.
#1426 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> I don't understand why you can't connect to http://192.168.0.1
#1427 [09:46] <Sooi11> it says on my router to go to that router page you have to enter 192.168.0.1 or dlinkrouter
#1428 [09:47] <Sooi11> 192.168.0.1 doesnt work
#1429 [09:47] <Sooi11> but dlinkrouter works
#1430 [09:47] <anchuin> where did u get this informations sooi11?
#1431 [09:47] <Sooi11> magic
#1432 [09:47] <Sooi11> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#1433 [09:49] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Minecraft Beta 1.5, and some thoughts on this blog (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:47:35 +0200
#1434 [09:49] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Minecraft Beta 1.5, and some thoughts on this blog (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:47:35 +0200
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#1439 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Sooi11 - Do you have another computer you can try connecting to http://192.168.0.1 with?
#1440 [09:54] <Sooi11> I have a laptop downstairs
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#1442 [09:54] <Sooi11> i have 2 routers in my house
#1443 [09:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1444 [09:56] <GreyVulpine> What is your network setup like?
#1445 [09:56] <Sooi11> how you mean?
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#1447 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you describe how your network is set up? Start with where you get internet service into your place.
#1448 [09:59] <Sooi11> well downstairs theres the adaptor or how its called
#1449 [09:59] <Sooi11> in there theres a internet wire thing
#1450 [09:59] <Sooi11> going to here
#1451 [09:59] <Sooi11> and going in my router
#1452 [09:59] <Sooi11> my pc is connected wireless
#1453 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> alright
#1454 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> And your second router?
#1455 [10:00] <Sooi11> same thing but downstairs
#1456 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> What's the adapter look like?
#1457 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me any info on it?
#1458 [10:01] <Sooi11> just a box with lamps and wires internet wires connected
#1459 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> Alright, could you look at it, tell me any info that's placed on a sticker on it.
#1460 [10:01] <Sooi11> k
#1461 [10:01] <Sooi11> brb
#1462 [10:04] <oldtopman> Greyulpine 1.5 is out
#1463 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> I saw
#1464 [10:04] <Sooi11> it says P/N FCH: .....
#1465 [10:05] <Sooi11> SSID : ....
#1466 [10:05] <Sooi11> WPA2: ....
#1467 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> Model number?
#1468 [10:05] <Sooi11> S/N: ...
#1469 [10:05] <Sooi11> dont think thats on there
#1470 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> It isn't?
#1471 [10:08] <Sooi11> my router Model nr is DIR-635
#1472 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> I'm looking for any more info on the adapter..
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#1474 [10:09] <Sooi11> theres nothing more on there except the things i said
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#1476 [10:09] <Dadube> Hey
#1477 [10:09] <Dadube> Is anybody here?
#1478 [10:09] <Dadube> Greyy
#1479 [10:09] <Dadube> Ur active
#1480 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1481 [10:09] <Dadube> ?
#1482 [10:10] <Dadube> ...
#1483 [10:10] <Dadube> I have a question
#1484 [10:10] <Dadube> What does the Advanced opengl mode actually does?
#1485 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> No idea, haven't had a chance to launch minecraft yet
#1486 [10:10] <Coolfusis> I too have a question! :3
#1487 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
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#1489 [10:11] <Sooi11> gonna try LAN
#1490 [10:11] <Coolfusis> I just got minecraft a few weeks ago, and this is my first update. Do I have to create a new world to access the new crafting stuff, or can my old world work?
#1491 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Your old world will work
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#1493 [10:11] <Coolfusis> awesome
#1494 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Sooi11 - I'm pretty sure 192.168.0.1 is the adapter's ip address, you'll need to access it.
#1495 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Could you try it on another computer?
#1496 [10:11] <Coolfusis> now I just need to figure out how to make these booster rails
#1497 [10:12] <Sooi11> ok i try but what then?
#1498 [10:12] <Coolfusis> apparently they're not the same recipe as normal rails (except swapped with gold)
#1499 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Power_Rail
#1500 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Try that
#1501 [10:12] <Coolfusis> oh, der, redstone
#1502 [10:12] <Coolfusis> why didn't I think of that?
#1503 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Sooi11 - Then, you'll need to port forward in there, 50500 to 192.168.0.198
#1504 [10:13] <Dadube> why do i actually need detector rails
#1505 [10:13] <Dadube> i can do it with pressure plate
#1506 [10:13] <Dadube> likke
#1507 [10:13] <Dadube> = =rail P = Pressure plate
#1508 [10:13] <Dadube> ==P==
#1509 [10:14] <Coolfusis> anyway, thanks for the help grey ^_^
#1510 [10:14] <Coolfusis> adios
#1511 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> Because this one is in line with the rail itself, and doesn't stop the cart from moving
#1512 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> like the plate will do
#1513 [10:14] <Dadube> oh
#1514 [10:14] <Dadube> but
#1515 [10:14] <Dadube> does the
#1516 [10:14] <Dadube> cart slide a bit?
#1517 [10:14] <Dadube> after the rail ending
#1518 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> It acts like a rail in every respect, but also generates a redstone signal
#1519 [10:14] <Dadube> ok
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#1521 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> So, here's to hoping 1.5 fixed the lag issue(s)
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#1524 [10:30] <Dadube> Okay wtf
#1525 [10:30] <Dadube> Why the
#1526 [10:30] <Dadube> Locked Chest re-added
#1527 [10:30] <Dadube> ???
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#1529 [10:31] <XStaticfury> Hey guys.. just got the game yesterday.- has a beginner question-
#1530 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#1531 [10:32] <Morrolan> It is? Bust be unintentionally then, Dadube. :D
#1532 [10:32] <Dadube> _D
#1533 [10:32] <XStaticfury> im hosting my own server and how do i update this to 1,5 ?
#1534 [10:32] <Morrolan> Download it again from the site.
#1535 [10:32] <Dadube> Read it on the version history
#1536 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the server from minecraft.net
#1537 [10:32] <Dadube> Locked Chest re-added
#1538 [10:32] <XStaticfury> ye but when i redownloaded the server.exe everything was gone
#1539 [10:32] <XStaticfury> i gues i have to transfer something ?
#1540 [10:32] <Morrolan> You can move over the world folder.
#1541 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Did you replace the server.exe in the same place?
#1542 [10:33] <Morrolan> Or replace the server.exe, as Grey said.
#1543 [10:33] <XStaticfury> no got a server1.exe
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#1545 [10:33] <XStaticfury> aight so if i overwrite the new one with the old it should be fine ?
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#1547 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> You overwrite the old one with the new...
#1548 [10:36] <XStaticfury> aight ima try
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#1555 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> I do have to run though.
#1556 [10:37] <GunniH> urr
#1557 [10:37] <GunniH> just updated, Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#1558 [10:37] <XStaticfury> worked
#1559 [10:38] <XStaticfury> thx for awsome support fellas
#1560 [10:38] * GreyVulpine nods
#1560 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> GunniH - Updated what?
#1561 [10:38] <Morrolan> Minecraft I guess.
#1562 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Where are you getting that error?
#1563 [10:38] * GreyVulpine was specifically asking if it was the server or client
#1563 [10:38] <GunniH> when trying to connect to a server
#1564 [10:38] <bread> you guys, 1.5 doubled my FPS.
#1565 [10:38] <Sooi11> Doesnt work on another pc
#1566 [10:38] <bread> \o/
#1567 [10:38] <GunniH> any good ideas? :3 I already deleted .minecraft from %appdata% and .exe
#1568 [10:38] <GunniH> and got the new .exe
#1569 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Rockin
#1570 [10:38] <Morrolan> Bread: Ah, nice.
#1571 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> GunniH - How are you getting that error?
#1572 [10:38] <bread> it's still only about 12FPS, but there's a definite improvement! 8D
#1573 [10:38] <wheybags> bread: wut how did they double your fps?
#1574 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> What gives you that error, what are you doing?
#1575 [10:39] <GunniH> go to multiplayer - type in address - click connect - error
#1576 [10:39] <bread> wheybags: new update :o
#1577 [10:39] <wheybags> oh
#1578 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> GunniH - Most likely, the server's down
#1579 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Server admins have to update their servers manually
#1580 [10:39] <GunniH> it's not
#1581 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Bet you it is
#1582 [10:39] <GunniH> promise you it's not :)
#1583 [10:39] <GunniH> looking at people connect to it right now
#1584 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> How are you connecting to it?
#1585 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Is it the right IP?
#1586 [10:40] * GunniH facepalms
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#1587 [10:40] <GunniH> yes it's the right IP
#1588 [10:40] <GunniH> I'm not retarded ;/
#1589 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us? Maybe we can try?
#1590 [10:41] <Morrolan> Are you sure that the server is already up to date?
#1591 [10:41] <GunniH> Morrolan, not sure about that one actually but I am seeing people connect to it
#1592 [10:41] <Morrolan> GunniH: Most likely they skipped the update then.
#1593 [10:41] <GunniH> we have a interactive IRC channel that shows connects/disconnects + chat both ways
#1594 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> I cannot connect to that IP GunniH.
#1595 [10:42] <Morrolan> Cause I get the same error when trying to connect to a server which is not updated yet.
#1596 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, it hasn't been updated yet
#1597 [10:42] <Morrolan> Not seriously shoud add an error "Server and client version not matching" though. :/
#1598 [10:42] <GunniH> yap, just asked owner, hasn't updated and won't til Bukkit is :3
#1599 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> GunniH - Try greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#1600 [10:43] <GunniH> werks
#1601 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Not your client then
#1602 [10:43] <GunniH> welp, thanks \o
#1603 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Now I gotta go..
#1604 [10:44] <Morrolan> Gotta run now, eh? :p
#1605 [10:44] <Morrolan> Geez, Portal2 decrypting is eating up all the CPU it seems.
#1606 [10:45] <Morrolan> And you can't even tell it not to decrypt. ^^
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#1608 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it takes forever
#1609 [10:45] <thien369852> Help me
#1610 [10:45] <Morrolan> ?? ask
#1611 [10:45] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1612 [10:45] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1613 [10:46] <thien369852> I got a exception_access_violation java error
#1614 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Please copy the entire error and paste it at http://www.pastebin.com
#1615 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#1616 [10:47] * GreyVulpine repoofs
#1616 [10:47] <m0nk> what does connection lost: end of stream mean?
#1617 [10:48] <Morrolan> M0nk: Uh, when exactly do you get it?
#1618 [10:48] <m0nk> login to my server
#1619 [10:48] <Morrolan> Did you update the server?
#1620 [10:49] <m0nk> no. how?
#1621 [10:49] <Morrolan> !server
#1622 [10:50] <thien369852> http://pastebin.com/M5Zh6pdm
#1623 [10:50] <m0nk> works now. ty
#1624 [10:50] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#1625 [10:50] <Morrolan> Thien: Wait for GreyVulpine's answer as well, but this looks like an issue with your graphics driver to me. :/
#1626 [10:51] <thien369852> let me check dxdiag
#1627 [10:51] * GreyVulpine agrees with Morrolan, ATI drivers
#1627 [10:52] <thien369852> oh shit really?
#1628 [10:52] <thien369852> Do i need to update my drivers?
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#1630 [10:53] <lifewater> Hello.
#1631 [10:53] <lifewater> I have a question, where do you get the 1.5 server update?
#1632 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> That would be the first step thien369852
#1633 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> From the same place, minecraft.net
#1634 [10:53] <Morrolan> !server
#1635 [10:54] <lifewater> Thanks, sorry for asking something that apparently is asked a lot :P
#1636 [10:54] <Morrolan> hehe, no problem. ^^
#1637 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> It's what we're here for
#1638 [10:56] <bread> At least people who come in here asking the same thing over and over have an excuse, they weren't here to see it asked.
#1639 [10:56] <bread> Now forums are a completely different story.
#1640 [10:56] <bread> >:|
#1641 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, the forums are a mess
#1642 [10:56] <Morrolan> The forums are a horrible place, yep.
#1643 [10:56] <bread> I was saying forums in general; never been to the minecraft forums.
#1644 [10:57] <Morrolan> I went nuts while I was active in its support section, so I switched over to this channel. ^^
#1645 [10:57] <bread> IRC > Forums anyday :D
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#1647 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Wait... you're morrolan from the forums?
#1648 [10:57] <Morrolan> Yep.
#1649 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> I've seen you really active there..
#1650 [10:57] * GreyVulpine just made that connection
#1650 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> I'll see you answer like half a dozen questions in a row whenever I pop onto there.
#1651 [10:58] <lifewater> another silly question...
#1652 [10:58] <lifewater> if i run the 1.5 server, do i lose the current world i have?
#1653 [10:59] <bread> nope :o
#1654 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Not if you don't delete the world folder
#1655 [10:59] <ichihaifu> Hello again ^-^ I have a problem connecting to my server after updating to 1.5, Any ideas what I should do?
#1656 [10:59] <lifewater> yay, you guys are awesome :)\
#1657 [10:59] <bread> ichihaifu: definie 'problem'
#1658 [10:59] <bread> We need more information!
#1659 [10:59] <ichihaifu> Sorry, one moment and I'l post the java error
#1660 [10:59] <bread> eek
#1661 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Please pastebin.com it if it's long
#1662 [10:59] <bread> ^
#1663 [11:00] <ichihaifu> Nah, its short
#1664 [11:00] <ichihaifu> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#1665 [11:01] <ichihaifu> On my client
#1666 [11:01] <thien369852> 1.5 released?
#1667 [11:01] <ichihaifu> After that, yes
#1668 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> 1.5 is out, yes.
#1669 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to update your server as well
#1670 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> !server
#1671 [11:01] <Morrolan> Grey: Yeah, the longer I stayed there the more my answeres became like "use the f**** search and read the friggin stickies", so I had to take a break. ^^
#1672 [11:01] <ichihaifu> I already did
#1673 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - I totally understand.
#1674 [11:02] <GreyVulpine> I did a short stint there as well.
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#1676 [11:02] <Morrolan> Ichihaifu: So you've updated both the client and the server, and yet you're getting this error, correct?
#1677 [11:02] <ichihaifu> I made another server with new Minecraft_server.jar
#1678 [11:02] <ichihaifu> Yes
#1679 [11:03] <ichihaifu> However, I took plugins and few text files from old server
#1680 [11:03] <bread> Morrolan: I know that feeling all too well. :P
#1681 [11:03] <XStaticfury> Friend of mine is getting error: Connection Refused: Connect when he tried to connect to my server. what could the problem be ?
#1682 [11:03] <Morrolan> Ichihaifu: Might want to wait with plugins until they're updated.
#1683 [11:03] <ichihaifu> Thats probably illegal client
#1684 [11:03] <Morrolan> XStaticfury: Are you using the newest server?
#1685 [11:03] <XStaticfury> yes
#1686 [11:03] <XStaticfury> just updated
#1687 [11:04] <Morrolan> And he's using the newest client as well?
#1688 [11:04] <XStaticfury> ye 1,5
#1689 [11:04] <ichihaifu> Damn, and I just finished with the clients. Btw whats with the red text? Private?
#1690 [11:04] <thien369852> how do i stop 1.5 from breaking my worlds?
#1691 [11:04] <ichihaifu> *mods
#1692 [11:04] <Morrolan> Xstaticfury: Did it work before?
#1693 [11:04] <lifewater> strange, i updated the server and now i get Bad Login when trying to access the game.
#1694 [11:04] <XStaticfury> is it correct that to cennect he only has to write :XXXXX ?? or a whole IP adress ?
#1695 [11:04] <thien369852> did i have to walk around and destroy mods content?
#1696 [11:04] <Morrolan> The whole ip adress.
#1697 [11:04] <XStaticfury> and how do i see that `?
#1698 [11:05] <Morrolan> go to, for example, whatismyip.org
#1699 [11:05] <XStaticfury> thx
#1700 [11:05] <XStaticfury> tryign out
#1701 [11:05] <ichihaifu> I will try without mods now
#1702 [11:05] <bokaholic> Hmmm..
#1703 [11:05] <Morrolan> Xstaticfurry: Sorry, it's .com
#1704 [11:06] <bokaholic> Opened up new minecraft.. And it says 'press e to open your inventory.' and I press e.. And nothing happens.
#1705 [11:06] <XStaticfury> jus googled myip :D
#1706 [11:06] <Morrolan> Yep, that works just as well. :D
#1707 [11:06] <XStaticfury> trying now
#1708 [11:06] <bokaholic> I mean, my inventory comes up. but that's nothing new.
#1709 [11:06] <Morrolan> Most likely you will need to forward ports though.
#1710 [11:06] <Morrolan> Bokaholic: And? What do you want more?
#1711 [11:07] <Morrolan> I think he just added this because a lot of people didn't knew how to open the inventory anymore after the key changed.
#1712 [11:07] <bokaholic> I thought that's where stats and stuff were going to be?
#1713 [11:07] <bokaholic> So yes, I guess I was expecting more..?
#1714 [11:07] <Morrolan> Euhm, there should be a button somewhere IIRC.
#1715 [11:08] <Morrolan> Wait, I'll check, I didn't have time to take a look yet.
#1716 [11:08] <ichihaifu> I still get the very same error with no mods on
#1717 [11:09] <Morrolan> Thien: What exactly do you mean with "1.5 breaking your world"?
#1718 [11:09] <bokaholic> Perhaps a texture pack doesn't run correctly with Minecraft 1.5? So it looks 'broken'?
#1719 [11:09] <Morrolan> Bokaholic: The achievements button is in the main menu. (The one when you press esc)
#1720 [11:09] <Morrolan> And yes, you'll need to update your texture pack as well.
#1721 [11:10] <Morrolan> Or use the vanilla one.
#1722 [11:10] <bokaholic> Ohhhh!
#1723 [11:10] <Morrolan> Or it might work with an outdated pack as well, the buttons might look a bit strange then tough.
#1724 [11:10] <Morrolan> though*
#1725 [11:10] <XStaticfury> @Morrolan.. Same error.. it is the first time he tries to cennect.. can i be my router or some thing blobking it ?
#1726 [11:10] <Morrolan> Yea, you'll need to do some portforwarding.
#1727 [11:11] * bokaholic attempts to get the 'press 'E' ...' to go away. She mutters to herself.
#1727 [11:11] <XStaticfury> argh think i founf some help on the forum to do that
#1728 [11:11] <XStaticfury> ima search the forums for a soloution.. thx for the help mate
#1729 [11:11] <Morrolan> Ok, if you need further help you can check out http://portforward.com/
#1730 [11:12] <XStaticfury> ima do that thx man
#1731 [11:12] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#1732 [11:13] <bokaholic> Hmm.. *pokes her game*
#1733 [11:13] <Morrolan> Holding SHIFT+Click on something in a chest will immediately drag the selected item(s) into your inventory and vice-versa.
#1734 [11:13] <Morrolan> Awesome¨:D
#1735 [11:13] <bokaholic> It should be marking me mashing down 'E' in the Achievements.
#1736 [11:14] <bokaholic> But it is not. Anyone else having this issue?
#1737 [11:14] <Morrolan> Ability to change GUI size (Small, Normal, Large, Auto)
#1738 [11:14] <Morrolan> Getting better and better. :D
#1739 [11:14] <Morrolan> Bokaholic: Gimme a second
#1740 [11:14] <bokaholic> Or am I special.. In countless ways. :I
#1741 [11:14] <bokaholic> No problem. :) Take your time. :)
#1742 [11:14] <Morrolan> The message disappeared for me. Already tried restarting your game?
#1743 [11:15] <bokaholic> Yeah. Hmm..
#1744 [11:15] <bokaholic> I'll try once more.
#1745 [11:15] <Morrolan> Jumping off a fence in SMP triggers an anti-flight kick.
#1746 [11:15] <Morrolan> How could they not stumble across this while playtesting? XD
#1747 [11:16] <bokaholic> Nope.. Still there..
#1748 [11:16] <bokaholic> Oops! Haha.
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#1750 [11:16] <Morrolan> You could try deleting the achievements file.
#1751 [11:16] <Morrolan> Might fix it. :/
#1752 [11:16] * bokaholic sniffles sadly.
#1752 [11:17] <Morrolan> No worries, we'll get this sorted out. :p
#1753 [11:18] <ichihaifu> Again, Can someone help me with 1.5 error? I host a server and just updated it to 1.5 along with client, and can no longer connect due to error: "Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
#1754 [11:18] <ichihaifu> All plugins are disabled
#1755 [11:19] <ksnap_AU> any known issues with wireless connections?
#1756 [11:19] <bokaholic> Morrolan: No worries. It's still playable. That's all that really matters to me.
#1757 [11:19] <Morrolan> Hehe :D
#1758 [11:20] <Morrolan> ksnap: Not that I know of.
#1759 [11:20] <Morrolan> Unless it's an Atheros card.
#1760 [11:20] <ksnap_AU> couple people having a 'lost connection' issue
#1761 [11:20] <ksnap_AU> only thing i can see them doing differently
#1762 [11:20] <ksnap_AU> is their wireless connection
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#1764 [11:22] <ksnap_AU> dlink router btw
#1765 [11:25] <Morrolan> Bokaholic: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=294934
#1766 [11:25] <Morrolan> Seems you're not the only one after all. :D
#1767 [11:25] <Morrolan> If it's in SMP for you, that is.
#1768 [11:27] <bokaholic> Yessir.
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#1770 [11:27] <bokaholic> I always forget to mention I'm in Multiplayer.
#1771 [11:27] * bokaholic facedesks.
#1771 [11:27] <Morrolan> Try it in single player then. :D
#1772 [11:28] <Morrolan> Actually I feel rather stupid, I even read half an hour ago that the first achievement doesn't work in SMP, and yet I didn't make the connection. ^^
#1773 [11:28] <bokaholic> Ok.. So..
#1774 [11:29] <bokaholic> I went to singleplayer.. Clicked 'E' and it logged it..
#1775 [11:29] <Morrolan> :)
#1776 [11:29] <bokaholic> Logged back into multiplayer and it's gone :)
#1777 [11:29] <bokaholic> To logged at as achieved.
#1778 [11:29] <Morrolan> Now excuse me, sir, gotta play some Portal 2. :D
#1779 [11:30] <bokaholic> Sir!? *gasp*
#1780 [11:30] * esper_kxjoiz [esper_kxjoiz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1781 [11:30] <esper_kxjoiz> I updated my minecraft server and pressed I for the first achievement and the achievement doesn't go awy
#1782 [11:30] <esper_kxjoiz> away*
#1783 [11:31] <bokaholic> Log into Singplayer and press 'i' and it should log. Then go back into multiplayer :D
#1784 [11:31] <esper_kxjoiz> thanks :)
#1785 [11:32] <bokaholic> It worked ok? :)
#1786 [11:32] <esper_kxjoiz> Yep it did
#1787 [11:32] <bokaholic> Good. :B
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#1789 [11:33] <esper_kxjoiz> Thanks
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#1791 [11:33] <Naokiudo> hey everyone
#1792 [11:34] <Naokiudo> could anyone tell me why i can't get connected since the latest patch of minecraft is running ? :s
#1793 [11:35] <agathezol> i'm having issues with server 1.5, java errors being thrown when attempting to start it against a 1.4 world: http://tinypaste.com/8d1792
#1794 [11:35] <agathezol> any suggestions?
#1795 [11:35] <Naokiudo> same for me
#1796 [11:36] <Naokiudo> i think we've to wait
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#1801 [11:43] <agathezol> hrm..
#1802 [11:45] <bokaholic> Lots of helpers distracted with Portal 2. :(
#1803 [11:45] <bokaholic> If I knew more, I'd totally help you out.
#1804 [11:45] <agathezol> out of curiosity are you on a 64bit linux distro Nao?
#1805 [11:45] <agathezol> hehe, thanks bok
#1806 [11:45] <agathezol> i know jack about java unfortunately
#1807 [11:45] <Naokiudo> i'm on a mac os X :p
#1808 [11:46] <agathezol> nod, 64bit java on that? or 32bit?
#1809 [11:46] <Naokiudo> ?
#1810 [11:46] <agathezol> i ask because I recently change my osx client to use 64bit
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#1812 [11:47] <Naokiudo> oh i don't know
#1813 [11:47] <agathezol> okay, then 32
#1814 [11:47] <Naokiudo> probably :p
#1815 [11:47] <agathezol> the 64bit version requires you to hack your Info.plist
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#1817 [11:47] <agathezol> did anyone run minecraft_server.jar successfully with a 1.4 world?
#1818 [11:47] <agathezol> if so, what java are you using?
#1819 [11:48] <Naokiudo> i can't get connected on minecraft at all, when i'm logging in, it says "can't connect to minecraft..."
#1820 [11:48] <agathezol> nod, differnet issue probably
#1821 [11:48] <Naokiudo> yeah
#1822 [11:50] <Naokiudo> i wanna play è_é
#1823 [11:50] <bokaholic> Meep.
#1824 [11:51] <agathezol> well, i can't fault those in the know for taking a break and playing some video games
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#1826 [11:52] <alx2222> hello
#1827 [11:53] <alx2222> i have a problem that i cant solve, i've tried reinstalling minecraft, but nothing
#1828 [11:54] <Naokiudo> when you tryna logging in with your account you can't, it says an error message ? :hap:
#1829 [11:54] <alx2222> water blocks have pink outlines, thats really annoying, other blocks have them too, but they arent so annoying
#1830 [11:55] <alx2222> i tried using a texture pack, but that doesnt help, even makes it worse
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#1832 [11:56] <Crafterfr33> hey, I have one ask about 1.5! Does it rain on Peaceful?
#1833 [11:57] <Crafterfr33> No one knows?
#1834 [11:58] <okraits> i guess, for a woman, dry hair in shape would mean peaceful i guess
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#1837 [12:01] <Lykkepillen> Anyone up for trying to help me out? =)
#1838 [12:01] <bread> ?? ask
#1839 [12:01] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1840 [12:01] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1841 [12:02] * xolotl rages a bit at Sourceforge's inability to handle bloody file uploads properly
#1841 [12:02] <xolotl> Seriously, how hard can this be?
#1842 [12:02] <bread> why are you uploading bloddy files? :O
#1843 [12:02] <bread> Should you clean them off first?
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#1845 [12:03] <bokaholic> :O
#1846 [12:03] <xolotl> bread: No time for hygiene, there's data to transfer!
#1847 [12:03] <Lykkepillen> Im sorry. Just being friendly :) - Well i shutdown my client an hour ago while connected to my minecraaft server (Server located in germany, i live in Denmark) - Now i get an "Connection reset" error and my server is giving me a "java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 112" error. You got any solutions for this problem?
#1848 [12:04] <xolotl> Lykkepillen: Did you upgrade your client to 1.5?
#1849 [12:04] <Lykkepillen> I got an update when i restarted, yes
#1850 [12:04] <xolotl> Lykkepillen: (probably there's a version mismatch; either the server is at 1.5 and you're at 1.4, or the other way around)
#1851 [12:04] <Lykkepillen> So.. People with an older client will still be able to connect?
#1852 [12:05] <bread> until the server updates
#1853 [12:05] <Lykkepillen> Aah
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#1855 [12:06] <Lykkepillen> I'll se if it helps. Thanks for your time! :)
#1856 [12:06] <bread> \o/
#1857 [12:06] <pico> server starts to lag or something since the update, players got thrown out with java exception, and i need to restart the server to play 1minute
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#1860 [12:09] <Lykkepillen> The newest version is at http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp right? I just DLed it, uploadet and restarted the server but i still get the error
#1861 [12:09] <bread> Did you download the server jar?
#1862 [12:09] <Lykkepillen> -When i try to connect i allso get /MY-IP-ADDRESS:11293 lost connection - Shouldn't my username be in front of /?
#1863 [12:09] <sonyc> hi, I have an issue with achievements: they don't register as completed (e.g.: taking inventory seems like it is never completed, and the message just hungs there)
#1864 [12:09] <Lykkepillen> Yes i did
#1865 [12:10] <Lykkepillen> Im runing a Linux server if this helps
#1866 [12:10] <_303> sonyc: try playing singleplayer a bit, might fix it (I heard)
#1867 [12:10] <sonyc> thx, gonna try that
#1868 [12:10] <agathezol> Lykkepillen: did you have any issues loading your 1.4 worlds with 1.5 server?
#1869 [12:10] <agathezol> Lykkepillen: i'm getting java errors when doing so, but the world I'm trying to load will work fine in single player
#1870 [12:11] <Lykkepillen> Everything loads fine, and a few users are currently playing - It seems to only affect me
#1871 [12:11] <agathezol> hrm... damn
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#1873 [12:11] <Lykkepillen> Would it help if you tried to connect?
#1874 [12:12] <psymin> I'll connect to your world Lykkepillen, if that is what you are asking :D
#1875 [12:13] <Lykkepillen> dawol.dk:25567 is the IP - Hope you get in lol
#1876 [12:13] <_303> connection reset
#1877 [12:13] <psymin> Lykkepillen, nope
#1878 [12:13] <Lykkepillen> Well.. It's not just me then..
#1879 [12:14] <bread> I can't connect either :o
#1880 [12:14] <Lykkepillen> You all get differend "Bad packet ID"s.. :/
#1881 [12:14] <Lykkepillen> different*
#1882 [12:14] <_303> just "connection reset"
#1883 [12:15] <Lykkepillen> Server gives me a "java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 97"
#1884 [12:15] <psymin> Lykkepillen, I'm running the linux client
#1885 [12:16] <bokaholic> I reeeally like the rain
#1886 [12:16] <bokaholic> lol
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#1889 [12:19] <Klostein-DrCox> hi!
#1890 [12:19] <Lykkepillen> I think i know what's wrong.. I forgot to tell you that i was running Bukkit on the server..
#1891 [12:20] <Klostein-DrCox> anyone who can speak english and can help me with linux server for a minecraft server?
#1892 [12:20] <Klostein-DrCox> english or german :D
#1893 [12:20] <pico> ok detector rails causes my problem, i just crashes the server :E
#1894 [12:21] <xolotl> pico: That's what you get for trying to detect things!
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#1896 [12:21] <pico> lawl
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#1898 [12:22] <pico> thats what i got when portal2 is out and notch is addicted to it ^^
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#1900 [12:23] <bokaholic> Well then. I think Vista just randomly wanted to reboot.
#1901 [12:23] <Klostein-DrCox> hm noone who want to help me?
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#1905 [12:25] <agathezol> hrm... well, my world plays fine in single player, but it won't start under smp
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#1907 [12:26] <Bridger> I dont have sound in minecraft, please help. sound and music at 100%
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#1910 [12:33] <Lykkepillen> One of my friends just connected to the server, no problem - both the server jar and bukkit are up-to-date, but i still can't connect. Can i downgrade my client somehow?
#1911 [12:36] <Morrolan> Lykkepillen: I think I've seen a thread on the forums with some bytepatchers which allowe you to downgrade, lemme search.
#1912 [12:36] <pico> Klostein-DrCox: was haste denn für wehwehchen?
#1913 [12:36] <pico> -> qry
#1914 [12:37] <okraits> Lykkepillen: use your backup from before the upgrade?
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#1916 [12:38] * pico slaps Klostein-DrCox around a bit with a large trout
#1916 [12:38] <Lykkepillen> @Morrolan Thanks :)
#1917 [12:38] <biglouey> hello
#1918 [12:38] <biglouey> i´ve got a question
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#1920 [12:38] <biglouey> is it allowed to use a flymod on my own private server?
#1921 [12:38] <Lykkepillen> @okraits It's the client - It just updated when i started it
#1922 [12:39] <okraits> Lykkepillen: from 1.4 to 1.5?
#1923 [12:39] <Lykkepillen> Yea
#1924 [12:39] <Lykkepillen> How do you send a private msg?
#1925 [12:39] <okraits> strange - i got asked by the client if i want to upgrade
#1926 [12:40] <Lykkepillen> It just happend.. :/
#1927 [12:40] <Morrolan> Biglouey: Yep, just turn of the flight hack protection first.
#1928 [12:40] <biglouey> hm okay thx
#1929 [12:41] <Morrolan> turn off*
#1930 [12:42] <Morrolan> Lykkepillen: Oh, and for the future: Download the new launcher from minecraft.net , this way you'll be able to choose wheter you want to update or not.
#1931 [12:42] <VoxelHead> Choose good health
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#1933 [12:43] <pwnus> quick question... do i need to update my server to 1.5 to play with a 1.5 client?
#1934 [12:43] <Morrolan> Yep
#1935 [12:43] <pwnus> ok. thanks. i was wondering why i couldnt connect to my server
#1936 [12:43] <Lykkepillen> Morrolan: My launcher and server jar is both from minecraft.net - It's just the Bukkit mod that's not
#1937 [12:44] <bread> bukkit probably hasn't been updated for 1.5 yet
#1938 [12:44] <pwnus> what the bukkit mod?
#1939 [12:44] <Morrolan> Lykkepillen: Yeah, but with the new launcher you'll be able to choose wheter you want to update the client or not.
#1940 [12:45] <pwnus> i just run the server in Mac OSX's terminal
#1941 [12:45] <pwnus> on my home computer
#1942 [12:45] <Lykkepillen> Morrolan: Aaah.. Still running with the old one.. Thanks for the tip!
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#1944 [12:45] <Danieru> Hi
#1945 [12:45] <Lykkepillen> And i just found out that Bukkit hasen't been updated to 1.5 so i'll just have to wait - Thanks for your help everyone! :)
#1946 [12:46] <Morrolan> Ok then. :D
#1947 [12:46] <pwnus> is there an easy way to upgrade the server?
#1948 [12:46] <Danieru> I got a problem with my mate. When I attempt to join his minecraft server, it just says "Lost Connection - End of Stream". We're on the same network, and we both got out firewalls off. Friends form outside the network can connect.
#1949 [12:46] <Danieru> *from
#1950 [12:46] <pwnus> currently ive just Downloaded the new .JAR and deleted the current one
#1951 [12:47] <pwnus> can i just hit "update" somewhere like i do on the client?
#1952 [12:47] <Morrolan> Pwnus: That's the only way atm.
#1953 [12:47] <pwnus> ok. well i guess i got FTPing to do
#1954 [12:47] <Morrolan> Danieru: Tell him to connect with your internal ip.
#1955 [12:47] <pwnus> thanx!
#1956 [12:48] <Danieru> That's what I'm doing, I'm connecting to 192.168.1.66:25565
#1957 [12:48] <Danieru> Which is suppose to be his internal IP, according to ipconfig in cmd
#1958 [12:48] <Morrolan> Hmm
#1959 [12:48] <Morrolan> Can you ping that ip? From the console?
#1960 [12:48] <biglouey> so now i´ve got that
#1961 [12:48] <Morrolan> (type ping 19.168.1.66 in the console)
#1962 [12:49] <Danieru> Yeah
#1963 [12:49] <Morrolan> 192.168.1.66*
#1964 [12:49] <biglouey> how do i deactivate flying disabled
#1965 [12:49] <Morrolan> Biglouey: Should be an option in server.properties
#1966 [12:49] <biglouey> ok thx ^^
#1967 [12:50] <biglouey> i´m gonna fly to krypton now see ya :D
#1968 [12:50] <Morrolan> Danieru: So you can ping his PC, but not connect to the server? Could it be that some security software is blocking it?
#1969 [12:50] <Danieru> Shouldnt, as friends from outside the network can connect.
#1970 [12:51] <BarryCarlyon> Hmm I pressed e to open my inventory by the box is still up..
#1971 [12:51] <BarryCarlyon> Odd
#1972 [12:51] <Morrolan> Barry: It's bugged, doesn't work in SMP
#1973 [12:51] <Danieru> Gah, I knew that there'd be problems when buying a game which is in beta >.<
#1974 [12:51] <Morrolan> You'll need to do the first achievement in singleplayer.
#1975 [12:51] <BarryCarlyon> mollstam: ah
#1976 [12:52] <Morrolan> Danieru: Obviously the game is working fine, since people from outside can connect without troubles. ;)
#1977 [12:52] <Morrolan> Does "Morrolan" look that similar to "Mollstam"' :D
#1978 [12:52] <Morrolan> ?*
#1979 [12:52] <BarryCarlyon> tab autocomplete fail
#1980 [12:52] <BarryCarlyon> My apologies.
#1981 [12:52] <Danieru> Yeah, and obviously something doesnt work properly as no one really knows how to fix "End of stream" when googling on it. x)
#1982 [12:53] <Danieru> plus that it's not working on LAN for some ghey reason >.<
#1983 [12:53] <Morrolan> BarryCarlyon: Haha, no problem. :D
#1984 [12:53] <VoxelHead> the giant flesh-eating demon "squid" has escaped! security! protect your master! GIR! Defensive mode!
#1985 [12:54] <Morrolan> Danieru: End of stream is one of the most annoying errors there is, it can mean literelly anything.
#1986 [12:54] * Morrolan defends Vox
#1986 [12:54] * VoxelHead smalls Morrolan in return
#1986 [12:54] <AkiTensai> Crash after updates and before logo because second monitor is on still happens after Beta 1.5 /sigh
#1987 [12:55] <Morrolan> AkiTensai: Shame.
#1988 [12:55] <_303> anyone found a super creeper yet?
#1989 [12:56] <_303> if they get struck by lightning, Fun occurs
#1990 [12:56] <Morrolan> Seriously?
#1991 [12:56] <_303> I won't spoil it though
#1992 [12:56] <_303> hint: new texture in armor/
#1993 [12:57] <m0nk> are there limited achievements?
#1994 [12:57] <bread> Miclee know's what you're talking about :o
#1995 [12:57] <Morrolan> Did he get blown up by one? ^^
#1996 [12:58] <Lykkepillen> Supercreeper? Do i have to blacklist it to prevent it from spawning?
#1997 [12:58] <_303> it's a regular creeper struck by lightening and "activated"
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#1999 [12:58] <Morrolan> Depends on how it's handled, but I guess bukkit will have handles for it.
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#2001 [12:59] <Lykkepillen> Hope my city dosen't get blown up lol.. But Creepers are blacklisted, so i guess i'll be okay
#2002 [12:59] <m0nk> what do i have to edit to get no monsters in sp?
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#2004 [12:59] <Morrolan> m0nk: There's an option in server.properties
#2005 [13:00] <m0nk> for single player. no server stuff
#2006 [13:00] <_303> bread: so, is this well known already (am I late for the party)
#2007 [13:00] <Morrolan> Oh, sorry.
#2008 [13:00] <_303> m0nk: mods
#2009 [13:00] <Morrolan> Misread. Just turn on peacful then?
#2010 [13:00] <_303> oh, no monsters at all? peaceful
#2011 [13:00] <m0nk> ah k ty
#2012 [13:01] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#2013 [13:01] <bread> _303: oh I was just saying, I'm pretty sure Miclee coined the term 'pigmen'
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#2015 [13:02] <_303> btw activated creepers have a "powered" boolean in their NBT tag if you want to hack one in
#2016 [13:02] <_303> using mcedit or whatever
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#2018 [13:04] <Buhb> oh this is great
#2019 [13:04] <Buhb> ladders with gaps dont work and guess where i saved last
#2020 [13:04] <Buhb> down at the bottom of my mineshaft
#2021 [13:04] <Buhb> which used gap ladders
#2022 [13:04] <Zemedelphos> lol
#2023 [13:04] <Buhb> lol
#2024 [13:04] <Zemedelphos> Ouch.
#2025 [13:04] <Buhb> f that i gotta cheat now
#2026 [13:04] <Zemedelphos> At least sticks make 2 ladders now.
#2027 [13:05] <Buhb> ill fire up this thing to move me back to spawn
#2028 [13:05] <Buhb> either that or i gotta kill myself
#2029 [13:05] <Buhb> meh nah i aint killin myself
#2030 [13:05] <Julius7996> All the mods and texture packs have to be updated too when I wanna play with them, right?
#2031 [13:05] <bread> yes
#2032 [13:05] <bread> well, mods definitely
#2033 [13:05] <Buhb> but this fix for ladders was totally not expected
#2034 [13:05] <bread> texture packs, will probably still work
#2035 [13:05] <Buhb> lol
#2036 [13:05] <Julius7996> k thanks
#2037 [13:06] <Buhb> mineedit or whatever works with 1.5 right?
#2038 [13:06] <Buhb> whatever the app i used was called
#2039 [13:06] <Buhb> mcedit
#2040 [13:06] <Buhb> i used this to move my spawn once
#2041 [13:07] <VoxelHead> Mmm Zemedelphos.
#2042 [13:07] <bread> it should, as long as the map format hasn't changed (which I don't think it ias)
#2043 [13:07] <bread> has*
#2044 [13:07] <m0nk> does random seed in sp have anything to say with how the world is created?
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#2046 [13:08] <Morrolan> Random seeds define how the world looks like, yep.
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#2048 [13:08] <Morrolan> So if you use the same seed for two worlds it will be the same world.
#2049 [13:09] <S1GNZ> Hello guys!! I've just updated the server but haven't seen any rain or snow, are there any server cvars that needs to be set? :)
#2050 [13:09] <Morrolan> Nope, just wait an instant.
#2051 [13:09] <Morrolan> euh, some minutes.
#2052 [13:09] <Buhb> alright i got myself moved away
#2053 [13:09] <Buhb> gotta now make more ladders
#2054 [13:09] <Buhb> lol
#2055 [13:10] <m0nk> i sat up the whole last night working on my mine/cavern on that smp map the island thing. didnt find any treasure
#2056 [13:10] <Buhb> and totally redo how i did this mine shaft
#2057 [13:10] <S1GNZ> Ah okay! Thanks man :)
#2058 [13:10] <Buhb> yeah i havent found a dungeon on my current map
#2059 [13:10] <S1GNZ> then I'll finish my lifeless 58x58x58 cube
#2060 [13:10] <psymin> Is there any way I can keep running 1.4 so that I can connect to our 1.4 server? (the 1.5 server doesn't load properly with our world)
#2061 [13:10] <Buhb> i could always cheat but meh
#2062 [13:10] <Morrolan> Psymin: With the new launcher you are able to choose wheter you want to update or not.
#2063 [13:11] <Buhb> yeah
#2064 [13:11] <Buhb> lets ya choose now
#2065 [13:11] <BarryCarlyon> Is there a server key for weather? Or is it just on?
#2066 [13:12] <psymin> Morrolan, so I can download the new launcher, and it can give me .14?
#2067 [13:13] * psymin googles for a 1.4 client.
#2067 [13:14] <Buhb> normal saplings wont produce birch and pine trees anymore right
#2068 [13:14] <Buhb> cuz theres new saps
#2069 [13:14] * Wug sighs
#2069 [13:14] <Wug> you can't roll back
#2070 [13:15] <Wug> unless allgamers hosts the old client
#2071 [13:15] <Wug> launchers and clients are not the same thing
#2072 [13:15] <Wug> omg voxelhead!!1
#2073 [13:16] <Vector> oh sweet
#2074 [13:16] <Vector> network issue wasn't fixed
#2075 [13:16] <Vector> YAY
#2076 [13:18] <Buhb> does snow and rain just happen at random?
#2077 [13:18] <Buhb> no matter where you are
#2078 [13:18] <Buhb> like an area that isnt snow will maybe become that later
#2079 [13:18] <Buhb> and then later melt
#2080 [13:18] <Wug> obviously its biome specific, and weather only happens outside
#2081 [13:18] <Buhb> is that how it works
#2082 [13:18] <Morrolan> Psymin: Nah, you can't download old versions legally from minecraft.net , but if you still have 1.4 you can choose to keep it when using the new launcher.
#2083 [13:18] <Vector> and some blocks spawned in the air for me
#2084 [13:18] <Vector> LOL
#2085 [13:19] <Buhb> well im in a fairly mild weather biome
#2086 [13:19] <Morrolan> And, if you're downloading 1.4 from somewhere in the net don't expect any support on any topic here. ;)
#2087 [13:19] * Wug backs up client
#2087 [13:19] <Vector> well it was spawned awhile ago, that world
#2088 [13:19] <Buhb> just was wondering if that can change to snow
#2089 [13:19] <VoxelHead> pop
#2090 [13:19] <psymin> :(
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#2092 [13:19] <tbiccochi> I need some assistance with a problem.
#2093 [13:19] <Buhb> i usually dont go very far from my spawn on single players
#2094 [13:20] <Morrolan> tbiccochi: Yea?
#2095 [13:20] <Buhb> tbh im more creative on multiplayer servers that let you summon items
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#2097 [13:20] <Buhb> makes it more like the old indev servers
#2098 [13:20] <Buhb> opens my creative juices
#2099 [13:20] <tbiccochi> I am getting the internal exception java error when I try to connect to servers
#2100 [13:20] <Wug> you know, its easier to just ask the question than it is to ask if you can ask it
#2101 [13:20] <Stefan|2> i need help, i want julius to love me :(
#2102 [13:20] <Buhb> i do like the idea of the powered carts because now itll be easier to do my subways
#2103 [13:21] <tbiccochi> last night it was fine and then today i cant connect.
#2104 [13:21] <Morrolan> Tbiccochi: Did you update both, the server and the client?
#2105 [13:21] <Buhb> yeah ive done subways
#2106 [13:21] <VoxelHead> And thaaan?
#2107 [13:21] <tbiccochi> not quite sure about the server..i know the client is updated
#2108 [13:21] <Morrolan> !server
#2109 [13:21] <Morrolan> grab the newest one from here then.
#2110 [13:21] <Buhb> one i had on a server i had it where i had like a central station, one line went to my house another went to a town some other ppl were making etc
#2111 [13:21] <Wug> the servers must be updated too
#2112 [13:21] <Buhb> it was pretty badass at the time
#2113 [13:21] <Morrolan> Just replace the old .exe or .jar file.
#2114 [13:21] <tbiccochi> ok
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#2116 [13:21] <tbiccochi> sounds good thanks
#2117 [13:21] <Buhb> other ppl on the server liked it
#2118 [13:21] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#2119 [13:22] <Buhb> I should do like a city
#2120 [13:22] <Buhb> on a server one day
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#2122 [13:27] <Julius7996> ain't Misas' Texture Pack 1.4_1 working in the new update?
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#2124 [13:28] <Morrolan> Well, new blocks will be invisible if using an old texture pack.
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#2126 [13:28] <Nithius> I'm trying to log on to the server I play on but minecraft ends up closing after being on the "Logging in" screen for an abnormally long time. Does anyone know what I can do. I've redownloaded multiple times.
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#2128 [13:29] <Wug> wait till the server is updated
#2129 [13:29] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
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#2131 [13:31] <kennis942> Join our 1.4_1 while you wait for 1.5 server updates! 24.252.200.12!
#2132 [13:31] <Buhb> if you get a pine tree sapling can you plant it in non snow areas
#2133 [13:32] <Buhb> ... i did a cart of my map i dont got snow near me lol
#2134 [13:32] <Buhb> id have to do alot of walking
#2135 [13:32] <Vector> wow
#2136 [13:32] <Vector> this is annoying
#2137 [13:32] <[z]> I don't see why not
#2138 [13:32] <Julius7996> omg
#2139 [13:32] <Julius7996> I just updated to 1.5
#2140 [13:32] <Vector> when i go to bed, a mob spawns right next to me.........
#2141 [13:32] <Buhb> Julius7996 let me guess
#2142 [13:32] <Buhb> you saved at the bottom of a gap ladder
#2143 [13:32] <Buhb> lol
#2144 [13:32] <Vector> even if i seal off the area with cobble
#2145 [13:32] <Vector> lmao
#2146 [13:32] <Buhb> this happend to me had to use mcedit
#2147 [13:32] <Julius7996> and now when I wanna get to the start it always crashes!!!
#2148 [13:32] <Vector> they'll spawn inside it
#2149 [13:33] <Morrolan> Julius: Using any mods?
#2150 [13:33] <Julius7996> MC just crashes instantly
#2151 [13:33] <Julius7996> oh, yes
#2152 [13:33] <Buhb> atm im not using any mods
#2153 [13:33] <Buhb> or texture packs
#2154 [13:33] <Julius7996> fly hack and stuff :D
#2155 [13:33] <Buhb> ive been leaving it as is
#2156 [13:33] <Morrolan> Don't use any mods which are not updated - doh
#2157 [13:33] <Julius7996> :3
#2158 [13:33] <AkiTensai> Julius7996: Instantly? Like before th logo?
#2159 [13:33] <Julius7996> yes
#2160 [13:33] <Julius7996> ah no
#2161 [13:33] <kennis942> whens the 1,5 commin g for worldedit and worldguard ?
#2162 [13:33] <Julius7996> after the logo
#2163 [13:34] <Morrolan> Well, don't install the mods then and you're fine.
#2164 [13:34] <kennis942> Join our 1.4_1 while you wait for 1.5 server updates! 24.252.200.12!
#2165 [13:34] <Wug> lol its funny because nobody can
#2166 [13:35] <AkiTensai> Julius7996: Then it isn't the same problem I have (Second monitor is on during startup causing crash)
#2167 [13:35] * Wug pokes greyvulpine so he can kick kennis
#2167 [13:35] <Morrolan> AkiTensai: I repeat again, his problem is because of old mods. ;)
#2168 [13:35] <AkiTensai> I'm rather disappointed that I haven't found anyone else with the same problem... but I guess that is a good thing...
#2169 [13:35] <Julius7996> AktiTensai, I've removed now my mods from my minecraft file but I still get the crash
#2170 [13:36] <Julius7996> and also to Morrolan :P
#2171 [13:36] <Morrolan> Julius: Delete the bin folder.
#2172 [13:36] <Julius7996> oke
#2173 [13:36] <Morrolan> This will make it redownload the files, but you will keep your saves.
#2174 [13:36] <Wug> did those mods have special blocks
#2175 [13:36] <Vector> hm
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#2177 [13:36] <Morrolan> AkiTensai: You're not the only one with that issue, it crashes for everyone who tries to use a second monitor. ;)
#2178 [13:36] <_303> Wug: unknown blocks are now purged from worlds
#2179 [13:37] <Vector> since the update today, anybody ever mention NIC troubles, even with 1.5?
#2180 [13:37] <mib_hozisx> hello
#2181 [13:37] <_303> just tried it with a heavily modded save, worked flawlessly
#2182 [13:37] <AkiTensai> Morrolan: Thank you for the knowledge.
#2183 [13:37] <_303> same with unknown items in the inventory
#2184 [13:37] <Wug> oh, neat
#2185 [13:37] <Morrolan> Vector: They're not that common, so I wouldn't judge before some days have passed. It certainly would be nice though.
#2186 [13:37] <_303> and entities have never been a problem
#2187 [13:37] <Julius7996> Omg, I still get the crash :<
#2188 [13:37] <Morrolan> AkiTensai. You're welcome.
#2189 [13:37] <Buhb> but yeah with weather it doesnt yet mean nonsnowy areas will become snow areas right
#2190 [13:37] <Buhb> cuz that would be pretty interesting
#2191 [13:37] <Morrolan> Julius: That's strange then. Do you get any error message?
#2192 [13:38] <Julius7996> nope, the program becomes black and just closes instantly
#2193 [13:38] <Julius7996> after the logo
#2194 [13:38] <kennis942> Join our 1.4_1 while you wait for 1.5 server updates! 24.252.200.12!
#2195 [13:38] <Morrolan> Is there a file called crash_something_numberhere.txt on your desktop? (Don't remember the exact name)
#2196 [13:38] <Morrolan> Kennis: Stop spamming please.
#2197 [13:39] <Morrolan> Hop over to a server advertising channel.
#2198 [13:39] <_303> Morrolan: minecraft doesn't create such a file, I don't think so. you'd have to run minecraft from the command line to see the error
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#2200 [13:39] <Julius7996> Morrolan: Thank you, I had to delete the Texture Pack too. Now it works fine, thanks for helping :)
#2201 [13:39] <Morrolan> 303: Doesn't it get created by the JVM when it crashes?
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#2203 [13:39] <Morrolan> Julius: Oh, nice. :)
#2204 [13:40] <VoxelHead> bye wug
#2205 [13:43] <m0nk> what 1.5 updates?
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#2207 [13:48] <_303> !check 196.209.122.88
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#2209 [13:52] <VoxelHead> I like them ;)
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#2212 [13:57] <m0nk> !check 88.89.15.191
#2213 [13:58] <m0nk> survival island
#2214 [13:58] <m0nk> already built on
#2215 [13:58] <m0nk> big mine/cavern
#2216 [13:58] <m0nk> not that big
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#2218 [14:01] <m0nk> so all mc servers are getting to 1.5?
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#2220 [14:02] <JavaGuest654> Hello dear folks. I am back with yet another question!
#2221 [14:02] <m0nk> !check game.vanillacraft.net:25565
#2222 [14:04] <SirFract> I am the server host of a Craftbukkit server and since 1.5 I can't seem to get it online anymore. What I did was updating the server software but that didn't help either. Probably because Craftbukkit isn't yet compatible with 1.5... Does anybody know when it will be compatible or is it already?
#2223 [14:04] <SirFract> Did I miss something?
#2224 [14:05] <[z]> "get it online"?
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#2226 [14:08] <m0nk> did you portforward the ip('s)?
#2227 [14:08] <gram> Anyone who knows how the new booster rails works?
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#2229 [14:08] <SirFract> There is nothing wrong with the Portforwarding
#2230 [14:08] <_303> is bukkit really already updated? O_O
#2231 [14:08] <AkiTensai> Why doesn't glass stop rain?
#2232 [14:08] <_303> guys are fast I say
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#2234 [14:09] <Morrolan> AkiTensai: Bug?
#2235 [14:09] <SirFract> Ehh I think they're not 1.5 yet
#2236 [14:10] <Morrolan> SirFract: Hop over to #bukkit , but better don't ask for an ETA, they don't really like it. ;)
#2237 [14:10] <SirFract> Alright ;P
#2238 [14:10] <SirFract> Thnx
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#2240 [14:10] <AkiTensai> Morrolan: A small bug if it can fit though glass >D
#2241 [14:10] <Morrolan> Indeed, will be hard to catch and squash it. :D
#2242 [14:11] <AkiTensai> ^.^
#2243 [14:11] <gram> How does the new boosterrails work? Has someone found out?
#2244 [14:11] <AkiTensai> gram: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Powered_Rail
#2245 [14:12] <gram> tanks, hadn't seen that page. thanks a lot. now i can get on with my new build project.
#2246 [14:13] <VoxelHead> Bye gram.
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#2254 [14:22] <I44mage> Hey, does the download of minecraft take forever or is it a bug or something? I bought the game earlier today but haven't been able to actually play it yet.
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#2256 [14:23] <peru_> download takes seconds...
#2257 [14:24] <peru_> use this command: !paid your_username
#2258 [14:24] <I44mage> when I start minecraft.exe and log in I choose to force update, and get stuck right theere.
#2259 [14:24] <m0nk> register / buy log in on the site and download minecraft.exe then start it then it donwloads
#2260 [14:24] <m0nk> ah nvm then
#2261 [14:25] <I44mage> does both the same for the download and the one you can play on the site itself
#2262 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Do you get to the "downloading packages" screen with a progress bar?
#2263 [14:26] <m0nk> !paid I44mage
#2264 [14:26] <I44mage> !paid 144mage
#2265 [14:26] <I44mage> cant log in on irc with a 1 as first letter
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#2267 [14:29] <peru_> Do you get to the "downloading packages" screen with a progress bar?
#2268 [14:29] <I44mage> yes
#2269 [14:29] <I44mage> it just never starts moving
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#2271 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Got any security software or firewalls blocking either java or minecraft from connecting?
#2272 [14:30] <I44mage> nope
#2273 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Are you running any sort of security software?
#2274 [14:30] <I44mage> my security software is turned off
#2275 [14:31] <I44mage> my firewall is off since Ive been trying this for several hours now lol
#2276 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me what you're running?
#2277 [14:31] <I44mage> OS based?
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#2279 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> In terms of security software
#2280 [14:31] <I44mage> Avast!
#2281 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> Some have a habit of not turning themselves off completely, even after the user tells it to
#2282 [14:32] <I44mage> turned it off at services
#2283 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> Okay, um. you said you've done the "Force Update" option in the minecraft launcher. Have you tried deleting the .minecraft folder?
#2284 [14:33] <I44mage> just did it and same story, running now for 10 mins and still at the same part of downloading packages
#2285 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Does it start downloading anything?
#2286 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> How far does it get, does it get stuck on a particular file?
#2287 [14:34] <I44mage> as far as I am noticing its not progressing at all
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#2289 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2290 [14:34] <I44mage> any specific port which has to be opened for it tho?
#2291 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Not for running the client
#2292 [14:35] <Mikechecker> hey guys could u help me please, i cant update my minecraft linux server do u have any idea
#2293 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Mikechecker - Running the original server, or a modded server?
#2294 [14:35] <Mikechecker> modded
#2295 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to wait for the mod itself to update for the new server
#2296 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit, I assume?
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#2299 [14:36] <Mikechecker> yeah
#2300 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you'll need to hit up #bukkit for info on that. Don't ask for an ETA though.
#2301 [14:36] <Mikechecker> do u know how long icould take?
#2302 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Usually a few days
#2303 [14:36] <Mikechecker> ok thanks
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#2306 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> I44mage - Are you sure you don't have any other security software besides avast on that computer?
#2307 [14:37] <I44mage> Very sure
#2308 [14:37] <I44mage> nothing is running on the background, like windows defender and such
#2309 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2310 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Could you try one thing, open minecraft.net up in your browser, click on In-browser... what OS are you on?
#2311 [14:40] <I44mage> windows 7 x86
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#2313 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Alright, when you click on in-browser, a java icon should pop up in your system tray, next to your click, right click on it and choose to open the java console
#2314 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> next to your system clock*
#2315 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> It'll give more info on what actually is going wrong.
#2316 [14:41] <I44mage> ok, let me check
#2317 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> If your computer isn't able to make a connection to amazon's cloud servers to download the files, it'll pop up there.
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#2319 [14:42] <MLoeven> anyone else getting cannot send to channel errors on the main minecraft room ??
#2320 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#2321 [14:42] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2322 [14:42] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#2323 [14:42] <MLoeven> i did
#2324 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Did you follow the directions in your email?
#2325 [14:43] <MLoeven> oh one of those nickserv's :P
#2326 [14:43] * GreyVulpine nods
#2326 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> #minecraft has been the target of many script kiddie spam attacks in the past.
#2327 [14:44] <I44mage> well, the java console doesn't look suspicious
#2328 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> No errors?
#2329 [14:44] <I44mage> Nope
#2330 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> That's.. strange.
#2331 [14:44] <MLoeven> are you on the minecraft dev team by any chance ??
#2332 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we're all volunteers here, community-run support.
#2333 [14:44] <MLoeven> where do i send a feature request
#2334 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#2335 [14:45] <I44mage> I guess I can re-try a few steps
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#2338 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> MLoeven - If it's something that can be succinctly summed up, you might be able to hit up some of the mojang staff on twitter
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#2340 [14:46] <Moofers> hey
#2341 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Check out http://twitter.com/notch and http://twitter.com/jeb_
#2342 [14:46] <MLoeven> actually what i wanted was a string in options that let you manually set the path for the application data folder
#2343 [14:46] <Moofers> I've travelled over 1km in a minekart but it isn't giving me the achievement any suggestions?
#2344 [14:46] <VoxelHead> I might answer, one day.
#2345 [14:47] <MLoeven> so you could keep multiple computers synched with the same saves by linking to a shared folder
#2346 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Moofers - Did you earn the achievement on single player?
#2347 [14:47] <Moofers> Nope
#2348 [14:47] <Moofers> its not letting me
#2349 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Then you won't get it in SMP until you do
#2350 [14:48] <Moofers> I did the 1km in singleplayer its not giving me the achievement
#2351 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then, I don't know, haven't had a chance to try out the achievements yet
#2352 [14:48] <I44mage> How long should the "downloading packages" update take?
#2353 [14:48] <MLoeven> like instead of minecraft looking in %appdata%\.minecraft the game would look in \\server\share\minecraft
#2354 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> MLoeven - You're better off sharing that in getsatisfaction (Or searching and adding to a post on that issue, I'm sure there's at least a few)
#2355 [14:49] <Moofers> And my spawn changed when i used a bed so I can't figure out where to the start is?
#2356 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Many people here feel the same way.
#2357 [14:49] <DreadLindwyrm> I44mage - shouldn't take long at all
#2358 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> I44mage - Seconds, minutes if your network is slow.
#2359 [14:49] <MLoeven> with windows it is easy to get around but the reason i really want that is for the mac which doesent like ntfs junctions nor can i create them
#2360 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> MLoeven - Have you looked into symlinks?
#2361 [14:50] <VoxelHead> if i tell you, i will have to kill you
#2362 [14:50] <MLoeven> windows i just turn .minecraft into a junction
#2363 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> shut up VoxelHead
#2364 [14:50] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#2364 [14:50] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#2365 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> with mac and other *nix distros, you can use symlinks to point that path to a different location
#2366 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> "man ln"
#2367 [14:51] <MLoeven> can sym links point to lets say SMB://server/folder
#2368 [14:51] <MLoeven> the share is a windows share
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#2370 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> I haven't touched *nix in a couple years.. don't know if they work with samba shares
#2371 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> The person to ask would be either Kealper or xales.
#2372 [14:52] * Kealper rawrs
#2372 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Kealper, symlinks, samba shares, yes?
#2373 [14:52] <Kealper> no idea, that's something for xales
#2374 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#2375 [14:52] <Kealper> never tried it :/
#2376 [14:52] <Moofers> So any ideas why the achievement isn't working?
#2377 [14:52] * GreyVulpine pokes xales or DopeGhoti.
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#2378 [14:53] <Kealper> moofers....have you ever played Silkroad Online? lol
#2379 [14:53] * MLoeven hands Grey Vulpine a inflated brown paper bag
#2379 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2380 [14:53] <MLoeven> they make lound noise and wake people up
#2381 [14:53] <Kealper> although
#2382 [14:54] * Kealper fires up a copy of Mint
#2382 [14:54] <Kealper> whenever VMWare starts
#2383 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Googling "Samba" and "symlink" gives some clue.
#2384 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> There's a good chance..
#2385 [14:54] <Moofers> no why?
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#2387 [14:54] <MLoeven> i did that and it was confusing and noone seemed to have a method to remove them anymore
#2388 [14:55] <blaphmat> Hello?
#2389 [14:55] <Kealper> Moofers: oh, nevermind then....there was some random person i knew who had that name in that game lol
#2390 [14:55] <MLoeven> that and i am completely annoyed at how all nix based filesystems use foward slashes instead of backslash for paths :P
#2391 [14:55] <Kealper> you can use both in windows
#2392 [14:55] <blaphmat> could someone help me?
#2393 [14:55] <Kealper> atleast...windows 7 lol
#2394 [14:55] <MLoeven> and i dont think they have drive letters
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#2396 [14:55] <Kealper> blaphmat: with?
#2397 [14:56] <blaphmat> Where do i find the minecraft textures like in images
#2398 [14:56] <MLoeven> i only have a mac because it is good for somethings
#2399 [14:56] <blaphmat> for 1.5
#2400 [14:56] <Boriz> Hello all
#2401 [14:56] * VoxelHead returns
#2401 [14:56] <blaphmat> Hi
#2402 [14:56] <VoxelHead> Hi yo boriz.
#2403 [14:56] <MLoeven> doesent mean i know how to use it as welll as the command prompt in windowsa
#2404 [14:56] <blaphmat> but could you help me?
#2405 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> blaphmat - It'll be in your /.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar file
#2406 [14:56] <Kealper> blaphmat: it's all in %appdata%\.minecraft\in\minecraft.jar
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#2408 [14:56] <smphelp> hey guys anyone else having trouble with there smp server for 1.5?
#2409 [14:56] <Kealper> i think that guy needs smp help
#2410 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> smphelp - No trouble here
#2411 [14:57] <AkiTensai> Kealper: GreyVulpine: I thought VoxelHead was the bot...
#2412 [14:57] <MLoeven> speaking of the appdata folder who's bright idea was to make a folder with a leading dot in a windows file system
#2413 [14:57] <Kealper> AkiTensai: it is lol
#2414 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead is the bot
#2415 [14:57] <smphelp> i can log in bbut no one else can
#2416 [14:57] <smphelp> it was fine for 1.4
#2417 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> smphelp - Your server?
#2418 [14:57] <MLoeven> i needed to use the \\?\ command when copying it
#2419 [14:57] <AkiTensai> But you two both responded with the nearly same thing next to each other, twice.
#2420 [14:57] <blaphmat> I still cant find them
#2421 [14:57] <smphelp> yes
#2422 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#2423 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> smphelp - You need to update your server manually.
#2424 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> If it's modded, you need to wait for the mod to update.
#2425 [14:58] <smphelp> its not modded
#2426 [14:58] <smphelp> i did download the new server software
#2427 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> If you're running the original, vanilla server, you need to redownload the server from minecraft.net
#2428 [14:58] <Kealper> blaphmat: you have to extract them from minecraft.jar....sorry to sound cold, but if you don't know how, you shouldn't be doing it...you can end up corrupting your game if you mess something up
#2429 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> And replace it
#2430 [14:58] <smphelp> idk what vanila server is
#2431 [14:58] <smphelp> im downloading minecraft_server.exe
#2432 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> vanilla, original, unmodded
#2433 [14:58] <Kealper> default
#2434 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> ?? vanilla
#2435 [14:58] <VoxelHead> vanilla: vanilla (adj.): Bland; original; with no garnish. In the context of Minecraft, a server or client with no mods, skins, texture packs, or other customizations.
#2436 [14:58] <smphelp> yes its vanilla
#2437 [14:59] <MLoeven> does minecraft have a debugging menu that you can use to wipe the map down to a flat plane and build the level manually
#2438 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> smphelp - Then once you replace the 1.4 server binary with the 1.5, everything should work
#2439 [14:59] <smphelp> o wait lol i had a hd texture pack!
#2440 [14:59] * Kealper updated his mc server setup wizard
#2440 [14:59] <MLoeven> never figured that out
#2441 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> MLoeven - Nope, but there's quite a few map editors that can do that
#2442 [14:59] <Coll> MLoeven use mcedit
#2443 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> MCedit is one
#2444 [14:59] <Coll> or something
#2445 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> Bah, ninja'd
#2446 [14:59] <MLoeven> art mode could be added
#2447 [14:59] <Coll> mwhahaha
#2448 [14:59] <Coll> :D
#2449 [14:59] <VoxelHead> =]
#2450 [14:59] <MLoeven> stard off in a blank map with all blocksw
#2451 [15:00] <Coll> it is an art to remove blocks and shape the world yourself
#2452 [15:00] <Kealper> also GreyVulpine, i know why you were lagging....i had the Trine torrent set to seed at close to my internet's max upload lol...people on the mc server along with that pushed it over the edge
#2453 [15:00] <Coll> or just be lazy and use a map editor
#2454 [15:00] <MLoeven> somehow i doubt that the guy who built the scale enterprise did it one block at a time
#2455 [15:00] <smphelp> ok ill try again
#2456 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Aaaah, that would be why
#2457 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> I thought the minecart boosters were screwing something up
#2458 [15:01] <smphelp> it worked :D
#2459 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> I was rubberbanding like crazy after 10-15 seconds on a loop
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#2461 [15:01] <Kealper> i've capped it way down, if you wanted to try it again to see if it still messes up
#2462 [15:01] <Blackthorne> Did boosters stop being as effective after 1.4?
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#2464 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> No, mojang added booster rails
#2465 [15:01] <blaphmat> hmm could somebody just send me the 1.5 textures? that would be awesome :3
#2466 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> the glitch boosters still work
#2467 [15:01] <Blackthorne> Is that in 1.5?
#2468 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes Blackthorne
#2469 [15:01] <Kealper> blaphmat: not allowed :/
#2470 [15:01] <Blackthorne> I am talking about 1.4
#2471 [15:02] <blaphmat> aw ok :l
#2472 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Blackthorne - Huh?
#2473 [15:02] <Blackthorne> Seems like they wouldn't throw me as far since 1.4
#2474 [15:02] <blaphmat> coudl you tell me where to fin them?
#2475 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> They were nerfed quite a bit starting with 1.2/1.3
#2476 [15:02] <Boriz> Hi guys! I can't connect to my Minecraft account after I bouth the game. For that reason I can't play any multi player mode. Could someone please tell me how to solve this problem or tell me how to fix it?
#2477 [15:02] <I44Mage> I retried everything you just named; re-checked everything and it's still not making progress at the updating
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#2479 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Boriz - Why can't you connect?
#2480 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - Got another computer you can try this on?
#2481 [15:02] <Boriz> It wil lsay "Failed to connect" or something like that
#2482 [15:02] <I44Mage> Sadly enough I don't
#2483 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Boriz - Are you able to connect to minecraft.net via the browser?
#2484 [15:03] <Boriz> Wehn I tryed it on another computer it worked.
#2485 [15:03] <Boriz> tried*
#2486 [15:03] <Boriz> Yes I can connect to minecraft from browser
#2487 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - What is your internet connection like?
#2488 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> How fast? How are you connected from your computer?
#2489 [15:03] <blaphmat> Kealper: could you atleast tell me a site where to find the minecraft textures?
#2490 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Boriz - Check your system time/date, make sure they are right
#2491 [15:04] <I44Mage> 100 Mbit - cable
#2492 [15:04] <blaphmat> In image files
#2493 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - Computer's connected via ethernet to the router?
#2494 [15:05] <Boriz> GreyVupline, That could be the cause of my problem. I have trouble with clocks in Windows.
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#2496 [15:05] <Boriz> I will try it right now.
#2497 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Boriz - You do?
#2498 [15:05] <Kealper> blaphmat: the forums would be a good start
#2499 [15:05] <blaphmat> ok
#2500 [15:05] <LordEddi> Hellues! Are there any /weather commands in for SMP we can use? I wanna try to get a pig struck by lightning :p
#2501 [15:05] <Kealper> blaphmat: if anything, the forums would give you detailed descriptions on how to get the textures without screwing up your game
#2502 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> LordEddi - None that we're aware of at the moment
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#2504 [15:06] <I44Mage> I got a small hub/switch between my pc and router
#2505 [15:06] <blaphmat> Ok thanks
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#2507 [15:06] <LordEddi> GreyVulpine; Yeah, figured I had to ask. tried all the usual suspects, and nada :(
#2508 [15:06] <LordEddi> Thanks tho :)
#2509 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - I'm asking, is your connection reliable?
#2510 [15:07] <Boriz> GreyVulpine, it works! Thanks! Thank you all!
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#2512 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> You're not running some sort of wireless connection, with very poor signal.. or an ethernet cable under some fluorescent lighting behind a microwave.. right?
#2513 [15:07] <VoxelHead> Connectionless wire.
#2514 [15:07] <I44Mage> I dont run wireless
#2515 [15:08] <Boriz> Gotta go. Thanks again! Bye!
#2516 [15:08] * GreyVulpine waves to Boriz
#2516 [15:08] <I44Mage> I can guarantee that my cable is not the problem
#2517 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - Any way you can connect the computer directly to your modem?
#2518 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Cut out any unnecessary riff-raff in the middle
#2519 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Just to rule out it's the physical network itself.
#2520 [15:09] <I44Mage> the riff raff should allow any connections through
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#2522 [15:09] <I44Mage> the problem only persists for minecraft updating
#2523 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> If it's not the network, it's something on the computer blocking connections to minecraft/amazonaws...
#2524 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> And you've already told me you turned off all the security/firewall stuff
#2525 [15:10] <I44Mage> yep
#2526 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> So unless there's something else on the computer that's not letting in minecraft's requests..
#2527 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> The only thing at this point I can think of that could possibly block it is..
#2528 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/hosts
#2529 [15:12] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2530 [15:12] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2531 [15:12] <I44Mage> I know where to find the hosts file, 1 sec
#2532 [15:14] <I44Mage> so what part do you want to see, the localhost handled by dns or the list down there which you can change to phish
#2533 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> The latter
#2534 [15:15] <I44Mage> latter ^^?
#2535 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> The second part
#2536 [15:15] <I44Mage> 127.0.0.1 activate.adobe.com
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#2538 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Just pastebin.com the entire thing
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#2540 [15:17] <I44Mage> http://pastebin.com/Jm8DFpaP
#2541 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> That's it?
#2542 [15:18] <I44Mage> yes
#2543 [15:18] <Lykkepillen> 127.0.0.1 set to activate.adobe.com is a bad idea - You can cheat adobe into getting free software, but you can't connect to any local services
#2544 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Alright.. it's not the hosts file then..
#2545 [15:18] <I44Mage> its the hosts file
#2546 [15:18] <Blackthorne> Does nether work for smp in 1.5?
#2547 [15:19] <xolotl> Blackthorne: No
#2548 [15:19] <Blackthorne> Thanks.
#2549 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - I mean, it's not the hosts file blocking minecraft then..
#2550 [15:20] <I44Mage> I figured that
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#2552 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> If there's no security software on the computer blocking minecraft/java, and the network is stable, I'm at a loss as to what it could be
#2553 [15:21] <Lykkepillen> What kind of antivirus are you using? Some products can't be turned off completely
#2554 [15:21] <I44Mage> that's what Im trying to figure aswell
#2555 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Avast
#2556 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> I asked the same thing
#2557 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> No issues with avast, last I saw.
#2558 [15:21] <I44Mage> avast! - its turned off at services- it used to block updaters from wow aswell
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#2560 [15:22] <CoLoN> I am having trouble with my minecraft :/
#2561 [15:22] <CoLoN> I can login but after MOJANG page it just quits
#2562 [15:22] <Luundin> Any MC admins online that can help me with switching my email?
#2563 [15:22] * VoxelHead is away: removing my enemies from the timeline
#2563 [15:23] <Luundin> Since my email es beeing hacked all the time i gotta change my password every single time
#2564 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Luundin - Sorry, we're community-run support here, we can't help with that.
#2565 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to contact support@mojang.com for that
#2566 [15:23] <Luundin> okay, thanks
#2567 [15:23] <Morrolan> Why don't you just change your email password?
#2568 [15:23] <Luundin> i do
#2569 [15:23] <Morrolan> Oh.
#2570 [15:23] <Luundin> but they hack it back
#2571 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - Just as a test, can you download http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/lwjgl.jar
#2572 [15:23] <Blackthorne> They?
#2573 [15:24] <Blackthorne> CIA?
#2574 [15:24] <Morrolan> You might have a keylogger of some sort on your PC then.
#2575 [15:24] <Luundin> some wannabe hackers
#2576 [15:24] <Morrolan> Anyway, wish you luck.
#2577 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> Luundin: who is your email provider so that I can never ever use them?
#2578 [15:24] <Luundin> nah, aint got a keylogger
#2579 [15:24] <I44Mage> yep
#2580 [15:24] <Blackthorne> When you say hack...
#2581 [15:24] <Luundin> Ok its like this:
#2582 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - How about http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/minecraft.jar ?
#2583 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> alternatively, have you tried resetting your email password to one that isn't 'hunter2', 'password', or '12345'?
#2584 [15:25] <I44Mage> same
#2585 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> What in the..
#2586 [15:25] <Luundin> didnt understood ya there DopeGhoti
#2587 [15:25] <Blackthorne> He means don't use easy passwords.
#2588 [15:25] <Luundin> oh, no i dont
#2589 [15:26] <I44Mage> x)
#2590 [15:26] <Luundin> i can swap my password to iplayminecraftalldaycauseiwantto199292959259 they still got it
#2591 [15:26] <Blackthorne> How?
#2592 [15:26] <Luundin> no idea, its just my email, nothing else
#2593 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - Could you delete %appdata%/.minecraft again, as well as the launcher, and redownnload the launcher at minecraft.net again?
#2594 [15:26] <Luundin> i mean 1 of my emails
#2595 [15:26] <Blackthorne> Luundin secret question?
#2596 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - If you can download those files, then there's nothing preventing your client from downloading them.. unless java is seriously screwed up somehow
#2597 [15:27] <Luundin> yeah it could be my secret question
#2598 [15:27] <Luundin> how do i change that?
#2599 [15:27] <Blackthorne> Should be in your profile or security settings.
#2600 [15:27] <Blackthorne> Depends on the provider.
#2601 [15:27] <Luundin> Ok, brb checking
#2602 [15:28] <I44Mage> well, if it doesnt work I guess I could re-install java as a last resort option
#2603 [15:28] <Lykkepillen> That takes about 5 min. and dosen't require a restart, så go for it
#2604 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't make much sense though, if java's that screwed up, or some permissions got set wrong.. it would tell you
#2605 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Even in the java console, at the very least.
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#2608 [15:30] <I44Mage> I guess its a java re-install
#2609 [15:32] <Luundin> Ok, ive change my secret question to a really weird question and even more wierd answer, hope this will solve it
#2610 [15:32] <asnoehu> what is the cause of the "bad packet id" error?
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#2612 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - Modded server?
#2613 [15:33] <asnoehu> ne
#2614 [15:33] <asnoehu> no
#2615 [15:33] <asnoehu> pure server
#2616 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Have you updated the server to 1.5?
#2617 [15:33] <asnoehu> yes
#2618 [15:33] <asnoehu> the error occured after I updated
#2619 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Next guess would be firewall/security software
#2620 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Zonealarm's notorious for this
#2621 [15:34] <asnoehu> it is hosted on a linux machine
#2622 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Okay then.
#2623 [15:34] <asnoehu> could it be that minecraft is listening on the wrong interface?
#2624 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Who's getting the bad packet id error?
#2625 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> The server?
#2626 [15:35] <asnoehu> no
#2627 [15:35] <asnoehu> me
#2628 [15:35] <asnoehu> internal network
#2629 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, okay.
#2630 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Client modded in any way?
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#2632 [15:36] <asnoehu> I just deleted the .minecraft folder
#2633 [15:36] <asnoehu> so I'd guess its not modded then?
#2634 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't be then.
#2635 [15:36] <Xav> Hello, I have some problems with mobs spawning in my house. Is there anyone available to help me?
#2636 [15:36] <Vector> is this when you sleep?
#2637 [15:36] <Xav> Yes
#2638 [15:36] <Vector> i have the same problem
#2639 [15:36] <Xav> Oh.
#2640 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> It's an issue with beds being right next to a wall
#2641 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Read http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#2642 [15:37] <m0nk> if i press F3 and then see up right corner. and it says something like: Used memory: 12% (110mb) og 989MB. does that mean i have 1 gb dedi for mp server?
#2643 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - You just eliminated 90% of the causes that we regularly see with that here.
#2644 [15:37] <asnoehu> yes
#2645 [15:37] <asnoehu> I tried a lot
#2646 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> m0nk - That's all client-side data
#2647 [15:38] <asnoehu> only I have not tested is someone connecting other then me
#2648 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> You have 1 gig allocated for the minecraft client
#2649 [15:38] <asnoehu> since I am internal network
#2650 [15:38] <Xav> On the other side of the wall, it's still inside my house.
#2651 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Xav - The wiki article clearly states what the problem is
#2652 [15:39] <I44Mage> might come up with some problems if you are hosting and playing at the same time on the same computer
#2653 [15:39] <m0nk> how can i set it to allocate that on the server?
#2654 [15:39] <asnoehu> GreyVulpine, I just tested external client also get bad packet id
#2655 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> It's because the bed is right next to the wall, but on the opposite side, it's not safe
#2656 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - You're not running any special iptable rules, right?
#2657 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> This is all vanilla client and vanilla server
#2658 [15:40] <asnoehu> eh, not very special rules no, but I have a vpn serving there and ufw also uses iptables
#2659 [15:40] <asnoehu> but it dit not happen with 1.4
#2660 [15:40] <Xav> It is safe! On the other side, it's still inside my house.
#2661 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Xav - And ceiling?
#2662 [15:41] <Xav> What?
#2663 [15:41] <m0nk> are you telepatically telling me to google it?
#2664 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Above the bed, the ceiling, is it outside on the other side?
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#2666 [15:42] <Xav> The ceiling is 7-8 blocks above it, I have a mansion. But yes.
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#2668 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - I'm not that familiar with ubuntu's ufw rules.
#2669 [15:43] <kendru> Anyone want to go back to the 1.4_1 to play multiplayer ? http://digiex.net/minecraft/mcvtool
#2670 [15:43] <ethan> Is it ok to provide a backrev 1.4 client jar to a friend that accidentally updated their client, or better is there a place to point people for "official" backrev client downloads?
#2671 [15:43] <asnoehu> well it allows you to allow and denie port and ips
#2672 [15:43] <I44Mage> I just reïnstalled the java client aswell lol, still not able to update
#2673 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> No ethan
#2674 [15:43] <asnoehu> normally you'd have to write iptables rules for them
#2675 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> kendru - Please don't paste that here again
#2676 [15:44] <asnoehu> but ufw does it for you
#2677 [15:44] <kendru> i didnt paste, i wrote that, to help you .
#2678 [15:44] <ethan> GreyVulpine no both to providing the old jar, and to official downloads or just the latter?
#2679 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> kendru distrubution
#2680 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> kendru distribution
#2681 [15:44] <VoxelHead> kendru: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#2682 [15:44] <VoxelHead> kendru: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#2683 [15:44] <I44Mage> Is it possibly that the connection might take a bit longer as I suppose that the server is located in the USA and Im updating from the EU
#2684 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - No, since it's hosted on Amazon's cloud
#2685 [15:45] <kendru> it is the jar, provided by mojang.
#2686 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Their CDN is worldwide
#2687 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> (Yes, 1.5 is buggy. That's why updates are optional. That's also why Notch posted a warning on his feed.
#2688 [15:45] <I44Mage> In that case Im clueless atm
#2689 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> I44Mage - Sorry, I am too.
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#2692 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> kendru: What you are proposing is Mojang's .jar, provided by you, which has a 'Do Not Distribute' label on it. It cannot possibly be made any more clear.
#2693 [15:46] <Buhb> wish i could place a clock
#2694 [15:46] <ethan> LargPrime your IP isn't
#2695 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> At this point, DopeGhoti would pop in and ask if you could try and make a new windows account, and try that.
#2696 [15:46] <Buhb> so i wouldnt have to leave it in a chest or in my inventory
#2697 [15:46] <Buhb> anyone else
#2698 [15:46] <Buhb> ?
#2699 [15:46] <Buhb> it would make a nice decoration
#2700 [15:46] <asnoehu> btw GreyVulpine, in this new console of minecraft server, how do I type in commands? I can only chat
#2701 [15:47] <Buhb> a server i go to doesnt have 1.5 yet heh
#2702 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - Use "help"
#2703 [15:47] <Buhb> so im just messin with my single player some more
#2704 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> It'll list all the commands available
#2705 [15:47] <asnoehu> yes
#2706 [15:47] <asnoehu> I know
#2707 [15:47] <Buhb> improving my house
#2708 [15:47] <asnoehu> but when I type help, it simply says that as if I use the command /say
#2709 [15:47] <Buhb> wish i could decorate with a clock though
#2710 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Oh, um
#2711 [15:47] <Xav> GreyVulpine: The ceiling is 7-8 blocks above it, I have a mansion. But yes.
#2712 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> That's changed..
#2713 [15:48] <asnoehu> changed in what way?
#2714 [15:48] <Buhb> another thing i wish i could do that i can however do on multiplayer summon servers
#2715 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Wait, no it hasn't
#2716 [15:48] <Buhb> you know how half blocks are items 44 for the half and 43 for the full half block
#2717 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - Are you trying those commands in the server's console, or in your client?
#2718 [15:48] <Buhb> i wish you could craft item 43 in single player
#2719 [15:48] <Blackthorne> Can't connect to minecraft.net
#2720 [15:48] <kendru> dope, i didnt make it, i am a user. i am happy that it exists, or else i couldnt go back.
#2721 [15:48] <Blackthorne> Is this normal?
#2722 [15:48] <Buhb> so i could fill gaps
#2723 [15:48] <Buhb> without having to stack it
#2724 [15:48] <Buhb> i like using those types of stone in full
#2725 [15:48] <Buhb> it looks real good
#2726 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - If you're doing it in your client, you'll need to be op, and prefix those commands with a slash (/)
#2727 [15:49] <asnoehu> yes, but I am doing direct in console after starting the server
#2728 [15:49] <Xav> :\
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#2731 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> kendru - Look at it from our perspective. You're distributing files to strangers on the internet, who trust that you are providing the files without any corruption. If there's any damage, or any virii, they yell at mojang, or us. Plus, distributing old files makes it harder for us to provide help, since we assume everybody's running the latest software. Any old client bugs could be
#2732 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> already fixed.
#2733 [15:51] <I44Mage> if I choose to not update it gets stuck at done loading :(
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#2735 [15:51] <Tage_the_sage> Hi, can someone here do me a huge favor ?
#2736 [15:51] <zw> Any ubunto pro users here? ;P Or maby not even pro :P Need help setting up VNC (vino)
#2737 [15:51] <zw> ubuntu*
#2738 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> zw: I can certainly try to assist.
#2739 [15:51] <zw> Tage_the_sage: what is that?
#2740 [15:51] <Vindicar> Hello. Could anybody tell me, do SMP seed generate same maps as single player seeds?
#2741 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> though I do most of my remote administration via SSH and not VNC (:
#2742 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> kendru - It just makes it easier for us to support.
#2743 [15:52] <Morrolan> Vindicar: Yep
#2744 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Vindicar: yes
#2745 [15:52] <Blackthorne> Is anyone else getting problems when they try to log in?
#2746 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Blackthorne - Nope.
#2747 [15:52] <I44Mage> what kind of problems
#2748 [15:52] <kendru> gra. yes in kno it has a menu to choose wich version to use, and download older/newer versions.
#2749 [15:52] <Blackthorne> When I click login, it doesn't.
#2750 [15:52] <zw> DopeGhoti: Cool :-D Yeah, I also only use SSH, but was thinking of setting up VNC (over ssh) because of my lach of unix skills :P
#2751 [15:52] <Tage_the_sage> Can you go onto multiplayer and type in the IP: minefbscape.no-ip.org
#2752 [15:52] <Tage_the_sage> and tell me if you can log in or not
#2753 [15:52] <Vindicar> Morrolan: strangely enough, it didn't work for me. i should recheck...
#2754 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> !check minefbscape.no-ip.org
#2755 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> Tage_the_sage: ^
#2756 [15:53] <zw> Tage_the_sage: I get ping reply nad it works
#2757 [15:53] <Xav> If the ceiling is touching the outside, but is 7-8 blocks above, is the area considered unsafe?
#2758 [15:53] <Tage_the_sage> what was the error again ?
#2759 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> I get end of stream connecting to Tage_the_sage's server
#2760 [15:53] <zw> Tage_the_sage: I got in, got the whitelist msg
#2761 [15:53] <Morrolan> End of stream? Are both the client and server running the same update?
#2762 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> I'm running 1.5
#2763 [15:53] <Blackthorne> So nobody knows about the problem of not being able to log in?
#2764 [15:53] <Tage_the_sage> okay...that means I was banned from it ;-; I left my PC open for an hour on the server and my brother greifed on it
#2765 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Blackthorne - Cannot connect to minecraft.net?
#2766 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Blackthorne: without further details about error messages, no.
#2767 [15:54] <Morrolan> At the topic of downgrading: Didn't someone once create a bytepatcher which allowed you to downgrade without having to distribute the .jar files?
#2768 [15:54] <Blackthorne> Yeah that.
#2769 [15:54] <Morrolan> Tage: Contact the server admins and explaint it, they MIGHT unban you.
#2770 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Blackthorne - Not having it here, check your connection
#2771 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: not that's supported or endoresed here, no.
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#2773 [15:54] <zw> DopeGoti, ok if i /msg you?
#2774 [15:54] <Vector> my lag issue is fixed
#2775 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> zw: sure
#2776 [15:54] <Vector> i just re-installed java
#2777 [15:54] <Vector> 1.5 works pretty well
#2778 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> (and thanks for asking)
#2779 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Vector - That's good to hear
#2780 [15:55] <I44Mage> Anyone else having issues with downloading the packages (updating to 1.5) ?
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#2782 [15:56] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: do achievements work on smp?
#2783 [15:57] <m0nk> was it /save tp or /tp save?
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#2785 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Yes, but only after you earn them in SP first
#2786 [15:58] <Xav> Ummm... you still haven't really fixed my problem. I realize that there are several other people asking for help, and I will respect that. And tell please tell me if I sound impatient, or just need to wait a few minutes. But I do not appreciate being ignored like this.
#2787 [15:58] <Lykkepillen> I44Mage: Could it be that your router is blocking the network?
#2788 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Xav - Sorry, but aside from the wiki, we're not aware of any other special cases
#2789 [15:59] <Lykkepillen> -You could try disabling your router-firewall
#2790 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> If the bed is placed within 2 blocks of a potential hostile area, mobs will spawn next to you when you go to bed
#2791 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> A hostile area is any unlighted area, where mobs could spawn, regardless if there's a wall or not
#2792 [15:59] <Xav> Ok, thank you for replying, and good day to you.
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#2795 [16:00] <asnoehu> GreyVulpine, never heard of this problem before?
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#2797 [16:00] <Vindicar> Oh, now i see
#2798 [16:01] <Vindicar> My bad.
#2799 [16:01] <Vindicar> Thank you all
#2800 [16:01] <I44mage> GreyVulpine - is Mozilla firefox not compatible with minecraft?
#2801 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - A bad packet error, for the most part, stems from a custom client/server, an out of date bukkit server gives this a lot. It could stem from an overzealous firewall blocking certain packets that allow MC's server to communicate reliably...
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#2803 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> I haven't heard of a vanilla client/server doing this, unless there's something screwy with the network setup that's dropping vital packets
#2804 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> I44mage - It is compatible.
#2805 [16:02] <asnoehu> how could it be then that 1.4 still worked?
#2806 [16:02] <I44mage> GreyVulpine - I just started minecraft via minecraft.net with IE and it actually updated :/ My mozilla firefox didn't update at all and the download did not even work either.
#2807 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - I'm not certain.
#2808 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> I44mage - That.. makes no sense whatsoever
#2809 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Check security settings in firefox perhaps?
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#2811 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> (but then firefox's security settings don't have anything to do with the downloaded client)
#2812 [16:03] * GreyVulpine throws hands up in defeat.
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#2813 [16:04] <krs66> hi i got a question
#2814 [16:04] <Icystorm> Hello
#2815 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> ?? ask
#2816 [16:04] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2817 [16:04] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2819 [16:04] <ertyuiop99> Foggy!
#2820 [16:05] <ertyuiop99> fogWraith
#2821 [16:05] <ertyuiop99> Chris!
#2822 [16:05] <fogWraith> ertyuiop99
#2823 [16:05] <Icystorm> Is there any kind of map editor for the newest version of Minecraft?
#2824 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> Brad!
#2825 [16:05] <Icystorm> Single player*
#2826 [16:05] <krs66> i just installed 1.5, and now im finding random cooked porkchops everywhere. what is this
#2827 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Icystorm - MCEdit
#2828 [16:05] <I44mage> right now it is working in mozilla firefox aswell but I guess that's because of the files being transferred into .minecraft folder @ %appdata% after the download from IE
#2829 [16:05] * GreyVulpine nods at I44mage
#2829 [16:05] <Icystorm> I know I might be asking too much. Where I can download it from?
#2830 [16:06] <ertyuiop99> fogWraith: lol, sorry, hows crafted.se?
#2831 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Icystorm - You may need to wait for it to update.. but: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#2832 [16:06] <fogWraith> ertyuiop99, site is down, server is up, with 1.4
#2833 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> It's the one map editor that I found has been the most reliable
#2834 [16:06] <xolotl> Yeah, MCEdit is great
#2835 [16:07] <krs66> *ahem
#2836 [16:07] <Icystorm> Looks complicated though
#2837 [16:07] <xolotl> Icystorm: It's not too bad, honestly
#2838 [16:07] <ertyuiop99> fogWraith: also, check out my mod, I've got a lot of people who like it and I even got someone who can do the artwork for me for any mod I'm going to make
#2839 [16:07] <krs66> i just installed 1.5, and now im finding random cooked porkchops everywhere. what is this
#2840 [16:07] <ertyuiop99> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=293432
#2841 [16:08] * DopeGhoti has had good luck with Pymce
#2841 [16:08] <ertyuiop99> Check it out, leave a post if you want.
#2842 [16:08] <fogWraith> ertyuiop99, i have very little interest in sp mods
#2843 [16:08] <asnoehu> GreyVulpine: is there any way I can make this error more specific?
#2844 [16:08] <Icystorm> Dude
#2845 [16:08] <Icystorm> The generated map is HUGE
#2846 [16:08] <ertyuiop99> more mp?
#2847 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - Sorry, nope
#2848 [16:08] <fogWraith> ertyuiop99, yep
#2849 [16:08] <ertyuiop99> Okay, I'm going to try out 1.5.
#2850 [16:08] <asnoehu> well tnx in any case for the help GreyVulpine!
#2851 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> asnoehu - If all else fails, reboot router, reboot modem, update NIC
#2852 [16:09] <ertyuiop99> fogWraith: See ya
#2853 [16:09] <fogWraith> later ertyuiop99
#2854 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> It's a network issue, basically.
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#2858 [16:09] <asnoehu> GreyVulpine, is there a way to let the server listen only to certain interfaces?
#2859 [16:09] <Nordas> i found a 1.5 bug -_-
#2860 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> If you have multiple NICs, you can set up server.properties to listen on a certain NIC's ip
#2861 [16:10] <Nordas> i cant get out of a 1 by 1 hole with ladders
#2862 [16:10] <Nordas> im stuck
#2863 [16:10] <asnoehu> also on say: 2 nic?
#2864 [16:10] <krs66> thats odd
#2865 [16:11] <Icystorm> So if I select and delete all the blocks, it will just make the map empty?
#2866 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Nordas - Any gaps in the ladders going vertically?
#2867 [16:11] <Icystorm> Or it will just keep generating?
#2868 [16:11] <krs66> *AHEM
#2869 [16:11] <krs66> i just installed 1.5, and now im finding random cooked porkchops everywhere. what is this
#2870 [16:11] <Nordas> yes
#2871 [16:11] <I44mage> is there any specific site voor texture packs for minecraft ?
#2872 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Nordas - That's why, that's been changed
#2873 [16:11] <Nordas> for torches
#2874 [16:11] <Nordas> D:
#2875 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Nordas - Ladders can no longer have gaps
#2876 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> krs66 - Haven't heard of that, not listed in wiki as a bug
#2877 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> krs66 - You may need to try getsatisfaciton.
#2878 [16:12] <krs66> what
#2879 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Try a search at: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#2880 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> krs66: clearly is it raining meat.
#2881 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> See if anybody else has reported it
#2882 [16:13] <krs66> lol
#2883 [16:13] <krs66> k
#2884 [16:13] <Nordas> u cant jump on ladders 2 :(
#2885 [16:14] <xolotl> krs66: Zombie Pigmen drop cooked porkchops when they die, and pigs can turn into zombie pigmen when hit by lightning now; perhaps you've had some Interesting things going on
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#2887 [16:14] <xolotl> krs66: Also I guess pigs drop cooked porkchops when they die from fire, so if you've had fires that could be it, too.
#2888 [16:15] <SPaRT> do we have to download the new minecraftserver.exe?
#2889 [16:15] <krs66> they're cooked when they die by fire?
#2890 [16:15] <SPaRT> *a new
#2891 [16:15] <I44mage> if you download a texture pack - can you just paste it into your texture packs folder and select it ingame?
#2892 [16:16] <I44mage> or is it a must to paste it in the jar file
#2893 [16:16] <krs66> if so, that explains the first one
#2894 [16:16] <krs66> but how would a zombie pigman have randomly died?
#2895 [16:17] <xolotl> krs66: heart failure?
#2896 [16:17] <Lykkepillen> I44mage: There is a import function in the launcher
#2897 [16:18] <Zemedelphos> Fire? Falling? Murder?
#2898 [16:18] <krs66> lol
#2899 [16:18] <Lykkepillen> Or.. It opens the folder to place your textures in
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#2901 [16:18] <I44mage> yes which is default right now
#2902 [16:18] <krs66> falling, maybe. it was in a forest. maybe he jumped off a tree? is that possible?
#2903 [16:18] <Lykkepillen> But if it's a HD pack you might need to patch it in
#2904 [16:19] <xolotl> I've not tried a zombie pigman outside the Nether; I wonder if hostile mobs attack them
#2905 [16:19] <xolotl> I suppose probably Ghasts would attack them in the Nether, if so.
#2906 [16:20] <krs66> i don't know. i guess its not really a problem, so whatever
#2907 [16:20] <Nordas> my sapling turned white
#2908 [16:20] <Nordas> it looks sick or something
#2909 [16:20] <krs66> birch sapling
#2910 [16:20] <Nordas> ooooohhh
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#2913 [16:25] <Zemedelphos> Minecraftwiki: Pigs that die by burning now drop cooked porkchops upon death
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#2915 [16:27] <gunther> Hello!
#2916 [16:27] <gunther> is bukkit 1.5 out?
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#2918 [16:29] <_303> ask in #bukkit
#2919 [16:29] <gunther> ty
#2920 [16:30] <Ineedserverehlp> I made a multiplayer server with the updated software, my friend cant connect because it said he needed to log in when he already was, help?
#2921 [16:30] * mib_4mtjqo [mib_4mtjqo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2922 [16:30] <mib_4mtjqo> hi
#2923 [16:31] <mib_4mtjqo> who is playing minecraft now ?
#2924 [16:31] <Ineedserverehlp> what do you mean?
#2925 [16:31] <mib_4mtjqo> the new update
#2926 [16:31] <mib_4mtjqo> 1.5
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#2928 [16:31] <Ineedserverehlp> yes
#2929 [16:31] <mib_4mtjqo> u got texture pack ?
#2930 [16:31] <Ineedserverehlp> no
#2931 [16:31] <mib_4mtjqo> but works better now
#2932 [16:32] <Ineedserverehlp> that still doesn't solve my server problem
#2933 [16:32] <mib_4mtjqo> what for sever problem
#2934 [16:32] <mib_4mtjqo> *server
#2935 [16:32] <Ineedserverehlp> ah, you logged in after i said it, 1 sec
#2936 [16:32] <Ineedserverehlp> I made a multiplayer server with the updated software, my friend cant connect because it said he needed to log in when he already was, help?
#2937 [16:33] <Razorflame> Have him log out and back on
#2938 [16:33] <mib_4mtjqo> hm
#2939 [16:33] <mib_4mtjqo> he got texture pack ?
#2940 [16:33] <Ineedserverehlp> no
#2941 [16:33] <mib_4mtjqo> he updated too ?
#2942 [16:34] <Ineedserverehlp> yes
#2943 [16:34] <mib_4mtjqo> both 1.5 >?
#2944 [16:34] <mib_4mtjqo> hmhm
#2945 [16:34] <Ineedserverehlp> yes
#2946 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> Ineedserverehlp: "You need to log in" <-- is that the error message?
#2947 [16:34] <mib_4mtjqo> what about ur server configs
#2948 [16:34] <Ineedserverehlp> yes
#2949 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/needlogin
#2950 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> Ineedserverehlp smp/needlogin
#2951 [16:34] <VoxelHead> Ineedserverehlp: (smp/needlogin) If you get the message "Kicking /IP: You need to log in!" when joining a server, you are attempting to join a Classic server.
#2952 [16:34] <VoxelHead> Ineedserverehlp: (smp/needlogin) If you are running the server, you downloaded the wrong software. The correct software is on the same page where you download the client.
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#2954 [16:35] <Ineedserverehlp> thats what I downloaded, the server properties file says that It's updated April 19th to 1.5
#2955 [16:35] <Ineedserverehlp> wait
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#2957 [16:36] <Ineedserverehlp> should I be running the Jar file of the MS-DOS batch file
#2958 [16:36] <Ineedserverehlp> ?
#2959 [16:36] <Ineedserverehlp> *or
#2960 [16:36] <I44mage> Thanks for the help, cya
#2961 [16:36] <Ineedserverehlp> but, the readme says alpha, so...
#2962 [16:37] <mib_4mtjqo> anyone got hd texture pack ?
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#2964 [16:38] <mib_4mtjqo> ?
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#2966 [16:42] <lemon-rev> hahhahahah
#2967 [16:42] <lemon-rev> im in a secure location and like a went to sleep zombie like attacked me im like wtf
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#2969 [16:43] <lemon-rev> eeewww, ok no more bed time sleeps then
#2970 [16:45] <lemon-rev> hahhahaha good way to get bone, arrows, and feathers is sleep, just as you almost sleep zombie or a mob appears its still wtf anyone else with this prob ?
#2971 [16:45] <Buhb> oh you can craft saddles now?
#2972 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> Ineedserverehlp: no batch file :p
#2973 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> if you have a batch file; that's the Classic server
#2974 [16:45] <Buhb> lemon is the bed close to a wall
#2975 [16:46] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Feed is empty!
#2976 [16:46] <Buhb> i think if its near a way the stuff might come through
#2977 [16:46] <lemon-rev> yes but its not near anything else
#2978 [16:46] <lemon-rev> i mean its near a wall but i think its only more wall and sand and earth yea
#2979 [16:47] <lemon-rev> well i know that use to be an error but oh well it seems to have come back
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#2981 [16:47] <Meckon> anyone got hd texture pack ?
#2982 [16:47] <lemon-rev> ok so moving it from the wall helpd lol gay
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#2984 [16:48] <lemon-rev> and creeps look up at you again YAY
#2985 [16:48] <Nordas> you lose buckets when smelting with lava D:
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#2987 [16:49] <Jasonskeetz> how much does minecraft cost in usd? via paypal?
#2988 [16:49] <Daxar> A little over 20 bucks
#2989 [16:50] <SPaRT> hey guys
#2990 [16:50] <SPaRT> the powered railways brake my wagon
#2991 [16:50] <SPaRT> why?
#2992 [16:51] <Jasonskeetz> thanks, is there any ways to purchase it without paypal or a credit card? i have niether of them
#2993 [16:51] <CoLoN> ask ur mom
#2994 [16:52] <Jasonskeetz> no one in my family has a credit/debit card...or paypal or anything of the sort, am i just out of luck?
#2995 [16:52] <peru_> yes
#2996 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> Jasonskeetz: open your own bank account?
#2997 [16:53] <Jasonskeetz> D: eh, it was worth a shot....cant open my own for another year unfortunately..
#2998 [16:53] <peru_> i cannot imagine me not being able to buy things on internet lol
#2999 [16:54] <Jasonskeetz> tell me about it :\
#3000 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> I can't imagine not being able to open one's own bank account :p
#3001 [16:57] <Nordas> theres a "find your pretty asian woman today" ad above my chat D:
#3002 [16:57] <OmegaVesko> Hence why I use a client at all times.
#3003 [16:57] <OmegaVesko> xD
#3004 [16:57] <Jasonskeetz> im 17, cant open my own bank account yet
#3005 [16:58] <PH0ENIX> hey all
#3006 [16:58] * VoxelHead returns
#3006 [16:58] <VoxelHead> =)
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#3008 [16:59] <Nordas> :O
#3009 [16:59] <VoxelHead> Well i never.
#3010 [17:00] <Jasonskeetz> thanks for the help, im off.
#3011 [17:00] <Nordas> has any1 seen rain or snow yet?
#3012 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#3013 [17:00] <Nordas> bye
#3014 [17:00] <VoxelHead> cheeeeeeers
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#3017 [17:01] <PH0ENIX> when you restart a server does it install updates automatically?
#3018 [17:02] <OmegaVesko> Hmm, not sure.
#3019 [17:02] <OmegaVesko> I imagine so.
#3020 [17:02] <Nazeradom> Hey #MinecraftHelp I was wondering if anyone could answer a quick server related question for me. If someone connects to my server such that is shows the ip in the console and immediatly says they disconnected is that a server side issue or client side?
#3021 [17:02] <PH0ENIX> no the server still says 1.4...
#3022 [17:03] <PH0ENIX> so i cant connect to it
#3023 [17:03] <PH0ENIX> hmm
#3024 [17:05] <PH0ENIX> halp?
#3025 [17:05] <OmegaVesko> Nazeradom: Probably clientside, considering other people connect fine.
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#3027 [17:05] <PH0ENIX> OmegaVesko, how do i update my server?
#3028 [17:05] <VoxelHead> i'd rather not
#3029 [17:05] <OmegaVesko> PH0ENIX: You can always update it manually, I guess.
#3030 [17:05] <Nazeradom> @PHEONIX Go to minecraft.net and download it
#3031 [17:06] <PH0ENIX> i just redownload it?
#3032 [17:06] <OmegaVesko> PH0ENIX: Just replace the Java executable with the updated one from mc.net.
#3033 [17:06] <PH0ENIX> ahh
#3034 [17:06] <PH0ENIX> how do i find the java executable if im running the .exe?
#3035 [17:07] <Nazeradom> Just download the new .exe
#3036 [17:07] <PH0ENIX> oh
#3037 [17:07] <OmegaVesko> Depends what youŕe running, if youŕe running the exe just replace it with the new exe. :P
#3038 [17:08] <PH0ENIX> sweet
#3039 [17:08] <PH0ENIX> thanks
#3040 [17:08] <VoxelHead> Sweeeeeeet.
#3041 [17:08] <PH0ENIX> now to see if it works
#3042 [17:08] <OmegaVesko> I hadn't fiddled with servers that much before, so I havent actually gotten a chance to update one.
#3043 [17:08] <PH0ENIX> well alllrighty
#3044 [17:09] <PH0ENIX> can someone join my server and tell me if its got aweful lag?
#3045 [17:09] <Razorflame> Yes Ph0enix
#3046 [17:09] <Razorflame> Msg me the ip
#3047 [17:09] <PH0ENIX> lol, hello again Razorflame
#3048 [17:09] <Razorflame> hi
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#3050 [17:13] <Razorflame> Where can I get skins for my character?
#3051 [17:13] <Nazeradom> skindex
#3052 [17:13] <Razorflame> url?
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#3054 [17:13] <Nazeradom> http://www.minecraftskins.com/
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#3057 [17:15] <i81u812> hey ..
#3058 [17:15] <i81u812> I have a quick question
#3059 [17:15] <i81u812> is anyone else getting a see through the water and ground .... kindof thing going on
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#3061 [17:16] <BlehBleh> You mean like a giant cubical hole in the ground?
#3062 [17:17] <i81u812> umm more like water thats not there and sheep floating in the air/ there really on a mountain
#3063 [17:17] <Nazeradom> chunk not loading, its a known thing
#3064 [17:17] <i81u812> open gl settings helped though
#3065 [17:17] <Nazeradom> log out and log back in and it will be gone
#3066 [17:17] <i81u812> its better? for now
#3067 [17:18] <Miclee> Nobody ever pings me for help!
#3068 [17:18] * Miclee goes back to idling.
#3068 [17:19] <BlehBleh> Miclee want to solve an unsolveable problem? MAKE MY SERVER WORK
#3069 [17:19] <i81u812> btw need more achievements.. but im sure its been said
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#3071 [17:19] <m0nk> disconnected: flying is not enabled on this server
#3072 [17:20] <mr_demon> anyone know why i cant go on multiplayer?
#3073 [17:20] <Miclee> I can't do that!
#3074 [17:20] <BlehBleh> mr_demon, there's a squirrel in your computer case
#3075 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> m0nk: don't jump off of fences.
#3076 [17:20] <m0nk> just standing on one
#3077 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> m0nk: known issue
#3078 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> fances are not for walking, apparently
#3079 [17:22] <Nazeradom> im guessing achievments dont work on the server....
#3080 [17:23] <Razorflame> Nazeradom: How do I put a skin onto Minecraft
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#3083 [17:26] <JMack> anyone care to offer some tech help with the update?
#3084 [17:26] <Razorflame> Download the latest server
#3085 [17:26] <Razorflame> oh
#3086 [17:26] <Razorflame> what kind of tech help
#3087 [17:26] <Razorflame> server or single player?
#3088 [17:26] <VoxelHead> i know i know, but i have to be paid in pies
#3089 [17:26] <Razorflame> or updating in general?
#3090 [17:26] <JMack> i did all that and it worked fine.. it runs the nogui command line.. i can connect just fine
#3091 [17:26] <Razorflame> What's the problem?
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#3093 [17:27] <JMack> but i cannot do anything in my world.. i can move around... open doors remove blocks.. but cannot pass through the doors.. and blocks come back and i cannot passthrough where they were
#3094 [17:27] <Razorflame> Move further away from spawn point
#3095 [17:27] <Razorflame> about 5-10 blcoks
#3096 [17:27] <Razorflame> *blocks
#3097 [17:27] <Razorflame> it should work
#3098 [17:28] <JMack> i cannot get out of it.. i built a tiny shack in my spaw...
#3099 [17:28] <JMack> spawn .
#3100 [17:28] <BlehBleh> rofl
#3101 [17:28] <JMack> im stuck in it
#3102 [17:28] <Razorflame> :o
#3103 [17:28] <VoxelHead> wtf
#3104 [17:28] <Razorflame> are you an operator?
#3105 [17:28] <JMack> yep
#3106 [17:28] <Razorflame> give yourself some TNT
#3107 [17:28] <Razorflame> and blow it up
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#3109 [17:28] <Razorflame> or if it's wooden
#3110 [17:29] <Razorflame> Flint and Steel
#3111 [17:29] <VoxelHead> hi floor... make me a sandwich
#3112 [17:29] <Razorflame> and burn it down
#3113 [17:29] <BlehBleh> you could teleport
#3114 [17:29] <JMack> lol whats the command
#3115 [17:29] <Razorflame> ../give
#3116 [17:29] <JMack> no one else is on
#3117 [17:29] <Razorflame> without the periods
#3118 [17:29] <PH0ENIX> is the itemid dor diamond NOT diamond?
#3119 [17:29] <Razorflame> no clue
#3120 [17:29] <Razorflame> Figure out the item ID for TNT
#3121 [17:30] <BlehBleh> The dec value is 46
#3122 [17:30] <Razorflame> type in ../i 46 6
#3123 [17:30] <Razorflame> without periods
#3124 [17:30] <JMack> ok ill try tht
#3125 [17:31] <BlehBleh> Can someone try joining my server 64.223.93.217
#3126 [17:31] <BlehBleh> I expect nothing
#3127 [17:31] <Razorflame> yes
#3128 [17:31] <Razorflame> What's the port
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#3130 [17:32] <BlehBleh> default 25565
#3131 [17:32] <JMack> im not getting any tnt.. also i have the prompt for Press E to open your inventory and it wont go away
#3132 [17:32] <Razorflame> what the hell was that BlehBleh
#3133 [17:32] <Razorflame> :o
#3134 [17:32] <BlehBleh> wha?
#3135 [17:32] <VoxelHead> Gosh.
#3136 [17:32] <BlehBleh> are you actually in?
#3137 [17:32] <Razorflame> yes
#3138 [17:32] <Razorflame> My god
#3139 [17:32] <BlehBleh> :O
#3140 [17:32] <BlehBleh> OH MY GOD IM HAPPY
#3141 [17:32] <VoxelHead> sacrebleu!
#3142 [17:32] <JMack> i also cannot interact with the chest, crafting table, and furnace
#3143 [17:32] <Razorflame> IT had me glitched and falling
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#3145 [17:33] <BlehBleh> weird
#3146 [17:33] <Razorflame> then the land generated below me
#3147 [17:33] <BlehBleh> but the server update
#3148 [17:33] <PH0ENIX> lag
#3149 [17:33] <Razorflame> and it said I fell
#3150 [17:33] <BlehBleh> made this magically work
#3151 [17:33] <JMack> ok so what other options do i have to try to fix my smp :S
#3152 [17:33] <Razorflame> restart the server
#3153 [17:34] <BlehBleh> teleport, then TNT?
#3154 [17:34] <Razorflame> change maps
#3155 [17:34] <Razorflame> better yet
#3156 [17:34] <Razorflame> JMack
#3157 [17:34] <Razorflame> Msg me the ip
#3158 [17:34] <JMack> already tried that... and it doesnt seem to let me give myself tnt
#3159 [17:34] <Razorflame> I'll come on and see what I can do
#3160 [17:34] <CoLoN> are the achievements working?
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#3162 [17:35] <PH0ENIX> ahh ItemIds are the hex codes
#3163 [17:35] <PH0ENIX> TNT is 46
#3164 [17:35] <BillCarson> Hello !
#3165 [17:36] <BlehBleh> thanks whoever just tested my server :D
#3166 [17:37] <xolotl> BlehBleh: np
#3167 [17:37] <BillCarson> I have a problem for multiplayer connection - message:" java.net.socket... connection reset" Can you help me?
#3168 [17:37] <CoLoN> does the weather feature work
#3169 [17:37] <Razorflame> What's the command to give op status to someone?
#3170 [17:38] <xolotl> CoLoN: Occasionally there is weather
#3171 [17:38] <CoLoN> is it single player only?
#3172 [17:38] <xolotl> Razorflame: "op <player>"
#3173 [17:38] <xolotl> Razorflame: do "help" to get a full list of the commands
#3174 [17:38] <Razorflame> no / in between?
#3175 [17:38] <xolotl> (and add a slash at front if you're doing it in "/talk" in-game)
#3176 [17:38] <Razorflame> just op player?
#3177 [17:38] <BillCarson> after a new MAJ solo ok, multiplayer, error
#3178 [17:38] <xolotl> Razorflame: You can also just add them to ops.txt directly
#3179 [17:39] <xolotl> If you'd prefer
#3180 [17:39] <CoLoN> is the weather single player only?
#3181 [17:39] <xolotl> CoLoN: It's supposed to be in SMP too
#3182 [17:40] <PH0ENIX> razor, youre free to join up and build something
#3183 [17:40] <Razorflame> ph0enix
#3184 [17:40] <Razorflame> hold on
#3185 [17:40] <Razorflame> helping another person on their server
#3186 [17:41] <PH0ENIX> thats fine, just letting you know
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#3188 [17:41] <BillCarson> ?
#3189 [17:41] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#3190 [17:41] <Ronjoe> can someone pass this along to #%$?!@&?
#3191 [17:42] <PH0ENIX> anyone know how to set the server to peaceful?
#3192 [17:42] <Ronjoe> The "Press 'E' to open your inventory" doesnt go away in linux
#3193 [17:42] <xolotl> PH0ENIX: set "spawn-monsters=false" in server.properties
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#3195 [17:42] <xolotl> PH0ENIX: And also see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#3196 [17:42] <Razorflame> xolotl: How do I install a skin on Minecraft?
#3197 [17:43] <xolotl> Ronjoe: It went away just fine on my Linux machine
#3198 [17:43] <Ronjoe> hmm
#3199 [17:43] <Ronjoe> thats strange
#3200 [17:43] <xolotl> Razorflame: You use the web interface @ minecraft.net; it does *not* properly update the webpage itself, but it does update in-game.
#3201 [17:43] <Ronjoe> im in multiplayer
#3202 [17:43] <Ronjoe> using the external client
#3203 [17:43] <xolotl> Ronjoe: I saw a note somewhere that if an achievement doesn't get activated properly, try it again in a fresh SSP world
#3204 [17:44] <xolotl> Ronjoe: And also I saw a note that you need to play at least one SSP world (probably just a create-and-then-quit) before achievements will start working in SMP
#3205 [17:44] <PH0ENIX> xolotl how do i find that?
#3206 [17:44] <Ronjoe> aj, k
#3207 [17:44] <PH0ENIX> im running the .exe
#3208 [17:44] <Razorflame> xolotl: By web interface, do you mean the game in browser?
#3209 [17:44] <Ronjoe> ah, k*
#3210 [17:44] <Ronjoe> thanks
#3211 [17:44] <Ronjoe> yes, he does
#3212 [17:44] <xolotl> PH0ENIX: Your Profile, when you're logged in at the site
#3213 [17:44] <PH0ENIX> the properties file
#3214 [17:44] <xolotl> PH0ENIX: Oh, duh, mixing up my conversations. :)
#3215 [17:44] <PH0ENIX> lol sorry
#3216 [17:45] <PH0ENIX> can move to pm if you want, i dont mind
#3217 [17:45] <Razorflame> nvm, I found out
#3218 [17:45] <xolotl> no no, it's fine in here
#3219 [17:45] <xolotl> Razorflame: kk
#3220 [17:45] <PH0ENIX> i found the file in my classic server...
#3221 [17:45] <PH0ENIX> hmm
#3222 [17:45] <xolotl> PH0ENIX: Search your HD for "level.dat"; server.properties will be in the dir above that
#3223 [17:45] <PH0ENIX> k
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#3225 [17:46] <xolotl> Or
#3226 [17:46] <targhed> can somebody send me his 1.4 bin folder ?
#3227 [17:46] <xolotl> You could just search for server.properties I guess.
#3228 [17:46] <xolotl> :)
#3229 [17:46] <VoxelHead> :-)
#3230 [17:46] <xolotl> Complicated solutions first, yeah? :)
#3231 [17:47] * mib_lfcoyg [mib_lfcoyg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3232 [17:47] <mib_lfcoyg> anyone here?
#3233 [17:47] <PH0ENIX> dammit, i didnt think this through
#3234 [17:47] <VoxelHead> nup
#3235 [17:47] <xolotl> mib_lfcoyg: 187 people are here.
#3236 [17:47] <PH0ENIX> its in my firefox root folder
#3237 [17:47] <mib_lfcoyg> i meant
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#3239 [17:47] <mib_lfcoyg> is anyone willing to provide information on a problem?
#3240 [17:47] <xolotl> mib_lfcoyg: (In IRC, ettiquite is to just ask your question and wait. Questions like "is anyone here?" are pretty useless generally.)
#3241 [17:48] <mib_lfcoyg> well now you know my question.
#3242 [17:48] <BillCarson> Re, but can you help me for my problem acces multiplayer
#3243 [17:48] <xolotl> mib_lfcoyg: Asking-to-ask is similarly useless.
#3244 [17:48] <mib_lfcoyg> im not looking for wise ass comments.
#3245 [17:48] <VoxelHead> wise ass-comments
#3246 [17:48] <iban> Hey guys, when i create a skin, I cant get the head accessories to work, even though the rest looks normal
#3247 [17:48] <PH0ENIX> awesome, got it!
#3248 [17:48] <PH0ENIX> thanks
#3249 [17:48] <xolotl> mib_lfcoyg: I'm just informing you how IRC support usually works is all, so that life's easier for everyone
#3250 [17:49] <xolotl> mib_lfcoyg: If you would have just asked your question already, you might have an answer by now. :)
#3251 [17:49] <PH0ENIX> lol ive done IRC support
#3252 [17:49] <xolotl> PH0ENIX: np
#3253 [17:49] <mib_lfcoyg> moving on.
#3254 [17:49] <PH0ENIX> its a thankless job
#3255 [17:49] <iban> anyone know what the problem might be?
#3256 [17:49] <mib_lfcoyg> the new update
#3257 [17:49] <mib_lfcoyg> 1.5
#3258 [17:49] <PH0ENIX> people think were paid for it
#3259 [17:49] <JMack> thanks for the help Razorflame!
#3260 [17:49] <mib_lfcoyg> the ladders
#3261 [17:49] <mib_lfcoyg> are
#3262 [17:49] <mib_lfcoyg> a bit odd
#3263 [17:49] <Razorflame> np
#3264 [17:49] <mib_lfcoyg> you need to connect them
#3265 [17:49] <mib_lfcoyg> yet in 1.4 you dont
#3266 [17:50] <xolotl> mib_lfcoyg: Right, that's intentional
#3267 [17:50] <iban> i like that update
#3268 [17:50] <mib_lfcoyg> why is it intentional?
#3269 [17:50] <xolotl> mib_lfcoyg: Because that's how Notch wanted it?
#3270 [17:50] <mib_lfcoyg> now i have a mine leading to bedrock with no way to get back up.
#3271 [17:50] <xolotl> mib_lfcoyg: He tweeted about the change a few days ago
#3272 [17:50] <m0nk> they should add a chat function and /give commands in sp
#3273 [17:51] <mib_lfcoyg> i dont look at the tweeta
#3274 [17:51] <mib_lfcoyg> tweets*
#3275 [17:51] <xolotl> mib_lfcoyg: I don't think anyone would care if you INVedited yourself some more ladders
#3276 [17:51] <mib_lfcoyg> thats not the point
#3277 [17:51] * xolotl shrugs
#3277 [17:51] <mib_lfcoyg> i have certain maps for modding or not modding.
#3278 [17:51] <mib_lfcoyg> very irritating.
#3279 [17:52] <mib_lfcoyg> just bringing that across the board
#3280 [17:52] <mib_lfcoyg> and seeing if it was intentional or a bug.
#3281 [17:53] <iban> Hey guys, when i create a skin, I cant get the head accessories to work, even though the rest looks normal...anyone know what the problem might be?
#3282 [17:54] <BillCarson> solution for acces multiplayer error, please
#3283 [17:54] <targhed> can somebody send me his 1.4 bin folder ?
#3284 [17:55] <mib_lfcoyg> i would go for a 1.4 bin folder as well
#3285 [17:55] <peru_> that safe?
#3286 [17:55] <peru_> i mean giving your bin to someone
#3287 [17:55] <xolotl> peru_: It'd be as safe as trusting any other random binary acquired over the internet via strangers
#3288 [17:56] <xolotl> Though you could probably mitigate some of that by attempting to get some checksum information from various sources, of course.
#3289 [17:56] <peru_> i said giving.. you said acquired
#3290 [17:56] <xolotl> Would be kind of nice if Minecraft releases were GPG-signed by Mojang
#3291 [17:57] <peru_> i mean is my login/pass stored in bin
#3292 [17:57] <xolotl> peru_: Oh!
#3293 [17:57] <xolotl> peru_: Yeah, there's no user data in there.
#3294 [17:57] <peru_> ok thanks
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#3298 [18:10] <VoxelHead> where'd my moose go?
#3299 [18:10] <gPad2002> Lol.
#3300 [18:11] <i81u812> anyone know what denotes flying the pig? height of fall etc?
#3301 [18:18] <BlehBleh> i thought it was a sexual innuendo
#3302 [18:19] <xolotl> I bet that's a hard one to get, actually, as pigs would generally not jump off cliffs
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#3304 [18:24] <AkiTensai> VoxelHead: How long until version 1.6?
#3305 [18:24] <VoxelHead> 20 minutes
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#3308 [18:28] <m0nk> i buried a zombie alive
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#3313 [18:30] <VoxelHead> Mmm javerikr.
#3314 [18:30] <bread> mmm VoxelHead.
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#3316 [18:36] <peru_> VoxelHead: How long until version 1.6?
#3317 [18:36] <VoxelHead> 44 seconds
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#3319 [18:44] <Manele> hey guys, someone have time for me?
#3320 [18:45] <Manele> or someone here? :s
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#3323 [18:48] <limitless> Hey!
#3324 [18:48] <peru_> just ask your question, maybe someone will answer
#3325 [18:48] <limitless> Just updated and now my world just freezes everytime I open it up. Well thanks well see if someone does :/
#3326 [18:48] <limitless> Anyone know whats wrong?
#3327 [18:49] <Manele> On my MP Server dont work weather, its on 1.5, why?
#3328 [18:55] <AkiTensai> Manele: I played for about an hour before I saw any weather. Are you sure it isn't working?
#3329 [18:56] <AkiTensai> crash
#3330 [18:56] <AkiTensai> ...Meant Ctrl+F
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#3332 [19:01] <thig> its quiet in here
#3333 [19:01] <thig> does any body remember me?
#3334 [19:01] <gPad2002> Evidently not
#3335 [19:01] <gPad2002> :P
#3336 [19:01] <thig> i know you
#3337 [19:02] <thig> ya know,yesterday
#3338 [19:02] <gPad2002> Do you? I don't.
#3339 [19:02] <Razorflame> guys
#3340 [19:02] <Razorflame> on a server
#3341 [19:02] <Razorflame> we had a pig mob spawner in a dungeon
#3342 [19:02] <gPad2002> Razorflame: Yas, Yas, no
#3343 [19:02] <thig> cool
#3344 [19:02] <Razorflame> and it seemed to have spawned a lot of pigs
#3345 [19:02] <Razorflame> but I can't kill them
#3346 [19:02] <thig> cool
#3347 [19:02] <thig> uh oh
#3348 [19:02] <Razorflame> and they're starting to glitch
#3349 [19:02] <gPad2002> Rejoin
#3350 [19:02] <gPad2002> Thats a known bug
#3351 [19:02] <Razorflame> kk
#3352 [19:03] <thig> is 303 here?
#3353 [19:03] <gPad2002> Userlist is over there ---->
#3354 [19:03] <thig> _303
#3355 [19:03] <thig> hello?
#3356 [19:04] <thig> yay
#3357 [19:04] <_303_> they will be none the wiser
#3358 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> gPad2002: not on all clients.
#3359 [19:04] <thig> ok,do you remember me?
#3360 [19:04] <thig> _303_
#3361 [19:04] <gPad2002> DopeGhoti: oh?
#3362 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> gPad2002: indeed.
#3363 [19:05] <gPad2002> Like what ones?
#3364 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> irssi, in which it's invisivle; xchat in which it can be wherever you want it; bitchx where it's on the left
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#3366 [19:05] <thig> _30_ i need your help in updated lwjgwl
#3367 [19:05] <thig> _303_
#3368 [19:05] <gPad2002> Fair enough
#3369 [19:06] <thig> _303_
#3370 [19:06] <thig> huh?
#3371 [19:06] <thig> does anybody know how to update lwjgwl in minecraft?
#3372 [19:07] <thig> so....no?
#3373 [19:08] <thig> _303_
#3374 [19:08] <thig> why does it do that?
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#3376 [19:09] <thig> -303-
#3377 [19:09] <thig> huh,wierd
#3378 [19:09] <gPad2002> thig: He left, derp
#3379 [19:09] <thig> i konw
#3380 [19:09] <bread> it's because of the _underlines_
#3381 [19:09] <gPad2002> _303_!~303@d91-128-231-83.cust.tele2.at left the room. (keep getting pinged for no reason)
#3382 [19:09] <gPad2002> Note why he left
#3383 [19:09] <thig> im talking about those lines
#3384 [19:10] <gPad2002> Underscore?
#3385 [19:10] <gPad2002> _ - •
#3386 [19:10] <bread> yeah that's what I meant
#3387 [19:10] <bread> lol
#3388 [19:11] * DopeGhoti thinks that perhaps if someone wants not to get 'pinged' for no reason, one might filter ICMP traffic.
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#3389 [19:11] <thig> does anyone know how to update lwjgwl,if you dont,say no
#3390 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> And that if someone wants not to have eir client alert them to eir nick being typed, using a numerical nick may be a bad idea.
#3391 [19:12] <thig> are you guys ignoring me?
#3392 [19:13] <thig> wow,guess thats a yes
#3393 [19:13] <thig> please dont ignore me!
#3394 [19:13] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3395 [19:14] <thig> YYEESS
#3396 [19:14] <thig> _303 i need your help
#3397 [19:14] <thig> how do you update lwjgwl?
#3398 [19:14] <FireRat> As much as I lvoe updates... that are a pain when you gotta wait for your texture pack ><
#3399 [19:15] <peru_> i guess just delete bin directory and wait until it downloads itself again
#3400 [19:15] <thig> _303?
#3401 [19:16] <thig> no,_303 told me to download it then place it in the right place,which i dont no where that is
#3402 [19:17] <PH0ENIX> does anyone know the name of the server mod that lets you warp?
#3403 [19:17] <thig> ug,this is wasting my time if noone will help me or even talk
#3404 [19:17] <PH0ENIX> what are you trying to do thig?
#3405 [19:17] <thig> except for PHOENIX
#3406 [19:18] <thig> im trying to update lwjgwl to fix my minecraft open gl problem
#3407 [19:18] <peru_> thig, it is in username\Application Data\.minecraft\bin
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#3409 [19:18] <thig> _303 gave me some information then just left me
#3410 [19:19] <thig> yes it is
#3411 [19:19] <peru_> c:\documents & settings\username\Application Data\.minecraft\bin
#3412 [19:19] <PH0ENIX> just redownload it
#3413 [19:19] <thig> exactly
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#3415 [19:19] <ophious1440> Is there I way I can revert back to before today's patch?
#3416 [19:19] <peru_> that is the RIGHT PLACE
#3417 [19:19] <_303> ophious1440: search for mcnostalgia on the forums
#3418 [19:19] <thig> are you sure?because the one minecraft came with was 2.4.2 and the recent one is 2.7.1
#3419 [19:20] <peru_> are you sure you dont wanna try?
#3420 [19:21] <thig> if i tryt,my graphics will go to 4 bit,instead of the normal 32 bit
#3421 [19:21] <FireRat> Did Notch fix the thing where you could put ladders with spaces and still climb them?
#3422 [19:21] <thig> ya
#3423 [19:21] <thig> _303
#3424 [19:21] <thig> read my posts
#3425 [19:22] <thig> _303 why arent you awnsering me?
#3426 [19:22] <thig> unless you are reading my posts?
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#3428 [19:23] <ophious1440> Is anyone else getting connection lose stream has ended error message when trying to join a server?
#3429 [19:23] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#3430 [19:23] <thig> _303!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#3432 [19:24] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3433 [19:24] <thig> DUDE,AWNSER ME!!!!!!!!
#3434 [19:24] <Ace85> is it possible to change my name on the minecraft fourms or change the email for that account?
#3435 [19:24] <thig> WHY DOES HE KEEP ON LEAVING?
#3436 [19:24] <lahwran> because he doesn't like it when you ping him for no reason
#3437 [19:25] <lahwran> or when you demand that he help you
#3438 [19:25] <ophious1440> Because he's busy and you're annoying him
#3439 [19:25] <lahwran> he may or may not be busy
#3440 [19:25] <lahwran> but you're still annoying him
#3441 [19:25] <thig> well hes the only one who can help me
#3442 [19:25] <Ace85> any of you guyz know if I can change my name on the minecraft forums?
#3443 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Ace85: email an administrator on the forum; this is Minecraft help, not Minecraft Fora Help (:
#3444 [19:25] <lahwran> I highly doubt that
#3445 [19:25] <Ace85> k
#3446 [19:25] <thig> its true
#3447 [19:25] <lahwran> Ace85: #minecraftforum
#3448 [19:25] <Ace85> lol sheesh been directed to like six different places
#3449 [19:25] <Ace85> ty
#3450 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Ace85: good luck!
#3451 [19:26] <lahwran> Ace85: that will be the last redirect
#3452 [19:26] <PH0ENIX> thig youre not very nice
#3453 [19:26] <lahwran> Ace85: ask an op
#3454 [19:26] <thig> ill be nicer
#3455 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Do.
#3456 [19:26] <PH0ENIX> yiy know these guys dont get paid for this
#3457 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Also, some of us are at work and cannot give IRC our undivided attention.
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#3459 [19:26] <peru_> thig, just try what i told you... you can always revert back, cant you?
#3460 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> Also, those of us not at work are probably playing Mortal Kombat or Portal 2 or something.
#3461 [19:27] <peru_> lol
#3462 [19:27] <thig> sorry,ive just been at this problem for weeks and this is the only new awnser that might work,since the other ones didnt
#3463 [19:27] <PH0ENIX> does anyone know the name of the server plugin that lets you /warp?
#3464 [19:27] <Ace85> k since no ones on #minecraftforum ima email an admin on the forums
#3465 [19:27] <Ace85> ty dope
#3466 [19:27] <thig> i can,but i have to restart
#3467 [19:28] <thig> lahwran, i lve your tree mod
#3468 [19:29] * lukegb [lukegb@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3469 [19:29] <thig> im gonna attempt something
#3470 [19:31] <thig> im restarting,bye
#3471 [19:32] <adamkex> can the lightning hit a player?
#3472 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> adamkex: since there are textures for the armor of players-hit-by-lightning, my money is on 'yes'.
#3473 [19:33] <ophious1440> What are the causes of "Connection Lost End of Stream" error?
#3474 [19:34] <VoxelHead> Bye buddyochoa.
#3475 [19:34] <bread> hi vox
#3476 [19:34] <VoxelHead> bread :D
#3477 [19:34] <PH0ENIX> VoxelHead :-)
#3478 [19:34] <bread> :D
#3479 [19:34] <VoxelHead> =]
#3480 [19:34] <PH0ENIX> do you happen to know the name of the server mod that lets /warp?
#3481 [19:34] <lahwran> <thig> lahwran, i lve your tree mod
#3482 [19:34] <lahwran> ...tree mod?
#3483 [19:34] <lahwran> I have a tree mod?
#3484 [19:35] <lahwran> when did this happen...
#3485 [19:35] <adamkex> DopeGhoti: ok
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#3488 [19:40] <thig> it didnt work,and i had to restart,of course,i didnt know exactly wre to put it,lwjgwl,or lwjgwl util
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#3490 [19:41] <thig> wow,after i left,eveybody stopped talking
#3491 [19:41] <thig> thig
#3492 [19:41] <thig> thig tihg
#3493 [19:41] <thig> thig thig
#3494 [19:42] <thig> time to wake up!
#3495 [19:42] <Captain-Lightning> Go home
#3496 [19:43] <thig> sorry for bugging you _303,i just really wanted help,sorry
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#3499 [19:43] <CampinSam> hey guys
#3500 [19:43] <thig> wow,somebodys mean today
#3501 [19:43] <CampinSam> which ip do I give my friends to connect?
#3502 [19:44] <PH0ENIX> thig you run a server right?
#3503 [19:44] <thig> no,but i can make one
#3504 [19:44] <bokaholic> May I ask what 'whitelist' is on my server?
#3505 [19:44] <PH0ENIX> CampinSam you running the server on yor home network?
#3506 [19:44] <bokaholic> If I put names in it, only those people can enter?
#3507 [19:44] <CampinSam> yes
#3508 [19:44] <thig> i think
#3509 [19:44] <CampinSam> I'm hosting it on the same computer I'm playing on
#3510 [19:44] <thig> why you asking?
#3511 [19:44] <PH0ENIX> CampinSam give then your external IP addy and the port the server is running on
#3512 [19:45] <CampinSam> is that the one I get from whatismyip.com?
#3513 [19:45] <PH0ENIX> yep
#3514 [19:45] <CampinSam> k
#3515 [19:45] <CampinSam> thx
#3516 [19:45] <PH0ENIX> default port is 25565
#3517 [19:45] <thig> yep
#3518 [19:45] <PH0ENIX> thig you know the name if the server mod that lets people use /warp?
#3519 [19:45] <thig> hopefully _303 comes back
#3520 [19:46] <thig> i do not
#3521 [19:46] <PH0ENIX> damn i cant find it
#3522 [19:46] <ophious1440> So no one knows what the "End of Stream" error means?
#3523 [19:46] <thig> why you asking?
#3524 [19:46] <thig> oh
#3525 [19:46] <PH0ENIX> so i can put it on my server
#3526 [19:46] <PH0ENIX> i dont ophious1440
#3527 [19:46] <PH0ENIX> that should be pretty easy to google though
#3528 [19:46] <thig> i dont,i just ask the questions
#3529 [19:47] <CampinSam> hmm
#3530 [19:47] <CampinSam> what happens if my friend keeps timing out
#3531 [19:47] <thig> phoenix,do you know how to solve my problem?
#3532 [19:47] <PH0ENIX> CampinSam are you playing on the same computer thats running the server?
#3533 [19:47] <CampinSam> yes
#3534 [19:47] <PH0ENIX> is it a new computer?
#3535 [19:47] <CampinSam> define new?
#3536 [19:47] <PH0ENIX> itll take a fair amount of power to run a server and play
#3537 [19:47] <CampinSam> oh, i'm fine
#3538 [19:48] <CampinSam> It's fairly new
#3539 [19:48] <thig> 4 gigs of ram
#3540 [19:48] <PH0ENIX> how much ram is in it?
#3541 [19:48] <CampinSam> 4 gigs
#3542 [19:48] <PH0ENIX> ok
#3543 [19:48] <PH0ENIX> duel core?
#3544 [19:48] <CampinSam> yea
#3545 [19:48] <CampinSam> I3
#3546 [19:48] <CampinSam> i3*
#3547 [19:48] <PH0ENIX> ok
#3548 [19:48] <PH0ENIX> might be a little laggy but should be ok
#3549 [19:48] <PH0ENIX> now then
#3550 [19:48] <PH0ENIX> i assume youre behind a router?
#3551 [19:48] <CampinSam> I haven't gotten any lag yet on the server by myself
#3552 [19:48] <thig> me?
#3553 [19:48] <PH0ENIX> no, CampinSam
#3554 [19:48] <thig> oh
#3555 [19:48] <CampinSam> behind a router?
#3556 [19:49] <PH0ENIX> yes
#3557 [19:49] <CampinSam> I assume you mean I'm near a router
#3558 [19:49] <PH0ENIX> modem>router>your computer
#3559 [19:49] <CampinSam> right?
#3560 [19:49] <PH0ENIX> thats how most networks are hooked up
#3561 [19:49] <CampinSam> yea, as far as I know
#3562 [19:49] <PH0ENIX> lol
#3563 [19:49] <CampinSam> rofl
#3564 [19:49] <CampinSam> I'm not the most tech savvy
#3565 [19:49] <PH0ENIX> id assume the router is blocking port 25565
#3566 [19:49] <PH0ENIX> you need to open the port
#3567 [19:49] <CampinSam> I need to port forward 25565?
#3568 [19:49] <PH0ENIX> yes
#3569 [19:50] <PH0ENIX> and turn windoes firewall off
#3570 [19:50] <CampinSam> alright, it's what I thought, but I needed to make sure t.t
#3571 [19:50] <PH0ENIX> lol i just put mine on a dmz
#3572 [19:50] <PH0ENIX> because im a smartass
#3573 [19:50] <PH0ENIX> :-P
#3574 [19:50] <thig> huh
#3575 [19:50] <PH0ENIX> dmz
#3576 [19:50] <PH0ENIX> disables all firewalls opens all ports
#3577 [19:51] <thig> ya
#3578 [19:51] <PH0ENIX> my server is wide open to the internet
#3579 [19:51] <thig> ya
#3580 [19:51] <PH0ENIX> lol
#3581 [19:51] <PH0ENIX> AINT SKERRED!
#3582 [19:51] <thig> lol
#3583 [19:51] <thig> ya
#3584 [19:51] <VoxelHead> mmm Hamish
#3585 [19:51] <thig> i konw
#3586 [19:51] <thig> wox
#3587 [19:51] <thig> vox
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#3589 [19:52] <bread> vox, courtmartial thig
#3590 [19:52] <VoxelHead> *throws thig in the brig to await charges*
#3591 [19:52] <thig> you already said that
#3592 [19:52] <thig> a long time ago
#3593 [19:53] <VoxelHead> thig, you are charged with existing, and writing a character development episode
#3594 [19:53] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to be keel-dragged through an asteriod field. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#3595 [19:53] <bread> Well, it was nice knowing you thig.
#3596 [19:53] <thig> lol
#3597 [19:53] <bread> Have fun in that asteroid field.
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#3599 [19:53] <thig> ok
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#3601 [19:54] <ophious1440> I wish I could connect to my favorite server. Just keeps giving me a End of Stream error
#3602 [19:54] <supermax1221> Minecraft keeps crashing on me like every 10 to 15 minutes
#3603 [19:54] <PH0ENIX> mine is giving me a socket exception
#3604 [19:54] <supermax1221> Any ideas on how to fix this
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#3606 [19:54] <thig> _303 can you please help me?if this works i will be so happy i will pay you
#3607 [19:55] <PH0ENIX> end of stream means the server is broken or hasnt updaed yet
#3608 [19:55] <PH0ENIX> i know that much
#3609 [19:55] <PH0ENIX> nothing you can do buy wait supermax1221
#3610 [19:55] <PH0ENIX> *but
#3611 [19:55] <thig> at least his pronlem is simple
#3612 [19:55] <supermax1221> :( ok thanks for letting me know.
#3613 [19:56] <d1no> hi i put a renamed 1.4jar in bin but it won't let me onto the server that's still 1.4
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#3615 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> define 'won't let'.
#3616 [19:56] <supermax1221> Hope all your problems get solved bye
#3617 [19:56] <PH0ENIX> supermax1221 you can join my server if you want, it needs testing anyway
#3618 [19:56] <ophious1440> Thank you phoenix btw
#3619 [19:56] <d1no> logging in msg stays onscreen
#3620 [19:56] <thig> mine wont,im so sad,sooooo sad
#3621 [19:57] <d1no> then took to lo
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#3623 [19:57] <PH0ENIX> no prob ophious1440
#3624 [19:57] <thig> i think i might cry,if i was a wuss
#3625 [19:58] <bokaholic> Oh poo. I missed my answer. What does Whitelist do?
#3626 [19:58] <bokaholic> Sorry guys. :(
#3627 [19:58] <bread> whitelist is the opposite of blacklist (lol)
#3628 [19:58] <bread> means, only names on it are allowed in the server
#3629 [19:58] <PH0ENIX> whitelist lets only people with permission join your server
#3630 [19:58] <PH0ENIX> basically invite only
#3631 [19:58] <thig> whoever solves my problem gets fifty bucks,here goes(its really long)
#3632 [19:59] <bokaholic> Well, I figured as much. I put names in there and people whom are not on the list are still entering.
#3633 [19:59] <bokaholic> It's why I asked.
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#3635 [19:59] <bread> bokaholic: I think you might have to enable a setting for whitelist, but I could be talking out my ass for all I know
#3636 [19:59] <bread> lol
#3637 [19:59] <VoxelHead> my ass-for
#3638 [19:59] <bread> lol vox
#3639 [20:00] <thig> when i get to the title screen in minecraft,it freezes then my display goes to 4 bit instead of the regular 32 bit.i have played minecraft before,and my driver is intel Q965/Q963 Express Chipset Family.my driver cannot be updated
#3640 [20:01] <bread> specs, thig ?
#3641 [20:01] <thig> btw,to fix it says reboot.when i reboot,it goes back to normal but i still cant play minecraft
#3642 [20:02] <thig> specs?
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#3644 [20:02] <wheelirydr> How do I install minecraft on unbuntu 10.10
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#3646 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> !client
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#3648 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> wheelirydr: get .jar; run .jar.
#3649 [20:02] <thig> i think it has something to do with my open gl mode
#3650 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> bokaholic: you do indeed have to turn _on_ the whitelist.
#3651 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> IIRC, bokaholic, the command is 'whitelist on'
#3652 [20:04] <thig> any awnsers?
#3653 [20:04] <wheelirydr> what do I do once I have extracted the files?
#3654 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> wheelirydr: you don't extract the files; you just run the .jar.
#3655 [20:05] <thig> its stumped everybody else who has tried.(like,10 people)
#3656 [20:05] <thig> my probllem,that is
#3657 [20:05] <VoxelHead> *squeaky*
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#3659 [20:06] <thig> so.....nobody.alright.how come nobody else in the world has this problem?
#3660 [20:08] <thig> if you dont know whays wrong,say no.just to be sure.sorry if im being annoying
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#3663 [20:08] <[E]MARANTz> Does anyone know how to fix : Internal exception: java.net.socketException: Connection reset? Pm please :)
#3664 [20:09] <wheelirydr> @ dopeGhoti which folder is the launcher in
#3665 [20:09] * mib_gt1jad [mib_gt1jad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3666 [20:09] <mib_gt1jad> Hi, I have a problem with one of my maps if anyone can help
#3667 [20:09] <Xav> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I just tried to join #mcchatter, and it immediately kicked me off, and said "You are banned from #mcchatter." Explanation?
#3668 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> wheelirydr: the launcher is what you doenloaded from the web site here:
#3669 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> !client
#3670 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> wheelirydr: when you run the .jar, it will populate ~/.minecraft/ with the binaries
#3671 [20:10] <thig> vox,doyou know the solution to my problem?
#3672 [20:10] <VoxelHead> no, that doesn't make me horny
#3673 [20:11] <thig> what?
#3674 [20:11] <mib_gt1jad> The map in question (and to my knowledge all the proper files) are located in the Roming\.minecraft etc folder
#3675 [20:11] <mib_gt1jad> but a few days ago
#3676 [20:11] <mib_gt1jad> it just stopped showing up in my in-game map menu
#3677 [20:11] <Xav> Corrupted.
#3678 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_gt1jad mods
#3679 [20:12] <mib_gt1jad> and I cant figure out how to get it back
#3680 [20:12] <VoxelHead> mib_gt1jad: (mods) his channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#3681 [20:12] <VoxelHead> mib_gt1jad: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3682 [20:12] <mib_gt1jad> and play it
#3683 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_gt1jad win/reinst
#3684 [20:12] <VoxelHead> mib_gt1jad: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3685 [20:12] <mib_gt1jad> anyone know whats up?
#3686 [20:12] <VoxelHead> mib_gt1jad: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3687 [20:12] <Xav> Open it with MCEdit.
#3688 [20:12] <Xav> Then save it.
#3689 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> Xav: the problem is that the mod he's running isn't 1.5-ready.
#3690 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> Xav: /me points at "in-game map"
#3691 [20:13] <mib_gt1jad> voxelhead: thanks alot
#3692 [20:13] <Xav> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I just tried to join #mcchatter, and it immediately kicked me off, and said "You are banned from #mcchatter." Explanation?
#3693 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> Xav: It's possible that someone placed a ban in that channel with a wildcard that matches your current host.
#3694 [20:14] <bread> Xav: when was this?
#3695 [20:14] <VoxelHead> about half-past three, I think
#3696 [20:14] <Xav> 5 minutes ago
#3697 [20:14] <bread> lol vox
#3698 [20:14] <wheelirydr> it's only showing up in the archive manager as 2 folders and 2 scripts--thats as far as it gets
#3699 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> wheelirydr: don't open it in the archive manager
#3700 [20:14] <bread> it would seem Mibbit is banned from #mcchatter lol
#3701 [20:15] <Xav> lol, wow
#3702 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> right-click the .jar you downloaded, wheelirydr, and select 'Run with OpenJDK'
#3703 [20:15] <bread> so, get another client, then join
#3704 [20:15] <Xav> Well, I guess I'll just ask it here, then.
#3705 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> wheelirydr: if it tells you you need the executable bit set, run the following command in a temrinal: `chmod u+x ~/Desktop/minecraft.jar`
#3706 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> then right-click-and-run should work, wheelirydr.
#3707 [20:16] <Xav> Is it true that Notch re-added the locked chests with 1.5?
#3708 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> it's not that he re-added them, it's that you can use /give to spawn them, but they disappear as soon as they are placed as blocks in the world
#3709 [20:16] <wheelirydr> cool thx dopeGhoti--I feel stupid
#3710 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> one bug among many
#3711 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> wheelirydr: it's poorly documented; don't feel stupid (:
#3712 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> wheelirydr: that'll be $8. (;
#3713 [20:17] <wheelirydr> i am begining to hate linux
#3714 [20:17] <bread> >:|
#3715 [20:17] <bread> don't hate what you don't understand.
#3716 [20:17] <Xav> On the wiki it said he did re-add it. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#3717 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> It's not Linux's fault; it's honestly Mojang's fault for not having +x set on the download to begin with.
#3718 [20:18] <wheelirydr> buts that takes all the fun out of it
#3719 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> Xav: Seen and read. Still seems not-deliberate
#3720 [20:18] <Xav> don't hate what you don't understand. <- QFT
#3721 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> could be laying the seeds for player-owned chests that can't be opened or destroyed maybe
#3722 [20:18] <Xav> Ok, thanks
#3723 [20:18] <Xav> What?
#3724 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> that's entirely speculation though
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#3726 [20:20] <Xav> That was weird...
#3727 [20:20] <wheelirydr> blank screen -thats know good what repositories did I forget
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#3729 [20:21] <thig> wow,again everybody is idling
#3730 [20:21] <thig> wierd
#3731 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> you'v ebeen here all of 15 seconds and made that determination, eh?
#3732 [20:22] <VoxelHead> Cabbages.
#3733 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: Lettuce heads.
#3734 [20:22] <thig> does antbody know where i can find _303?
#3735 [20:22] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
#3736 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> thig: The HTTP response status code 303 See Other is the correct manner in which to redirect web applications to a new URI, particularly after an HTTP POST has been performed.
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#3738 [20:23] <bread> lol
#3739 [20:23] <thig> no,the person
#3740 [20:24] <Joomz> oh there you are
#3741 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> How goes, Moggy?
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#3744 [20:25] <wheelirydr> @DopeGhoti I gotta blank screen what repositories did I forget?
#3745 [20:25] <Joomz> chainsaw felatios and all that jazz
#3746 [20:25] <thig> anybody know the mod the aether?its AWESOME!
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#3748 [20:25] <thig> even though i havent tried it
#3749 [20:26] <thig> cause i cant thats why im here
#3750 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> wheelirydr: you could try enabling the partner repos and installing sun-java6-jre, and using that rather than OpenJDK
#3751 [20:26] <Pain67> Is there a channel where I can get help at?
#3752 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> Also, be sure you have the video drivers installed
#3753 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> Pain67 ask
#3754 [20:26] <VoxelHead> Pain67: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3755 [20:26] <VoxelHead> Pain67: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3756 [20:27] <Pain67> k
#3757 [20:27] <thig> my video drivers are installed
#3758 [20:28] <Pain67> I'm getting server error. The server is up and running and using Hamachi to run the IP address and Crafbukkit. Every time I get in I'm getting an error "Java bad packet ID 110
#3759 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> Firstly..
#3760 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#3761 [20:28] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#3762 [20:28] <Joomz> So guys. I need help crafting a mine. What do?
#3763 [20:28] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#3764 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> secondly, an update was released today that breaks most mods
#3765 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> Joomz: ask more specific questions, for one (:
#3766 [20:28] <thig> yep
#3767 [20:29] <Pain67> :/
#3768 [20:29] <Pain67> later then
#3769 [20:29] <Joomz> You can't get more specific than asking how to productively construct a mine for practical stripping the earth of its minerals and natural resources within its crust?
#3770 [20:30] <Pain67> Creeper gonna creep. Bye
#3771 [20:30] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#3772 [20:30] <wheelirydr> got it thanks--off to figure this out God Bless
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#3774 [20:31] <Joomz> of the earth*
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#3776 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> Joomz: fine. first, conscript a de-facto slave labor force that cannot afford to quit their jobs once you have hired them. Secondly, save money by skimping on methane ventillation. Once the resultant explosion knocks loose valuable ores, send the next round of hires in to collect for you, and reap the benefits.
#3777 [20:31] <Julius7996> Can someone gimme a server ip which is updated to 1.5?
#3778 [20:32] <Julius7996> wanna play mp but most didnt update yet
#3779 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers
#3780 [20:32] <Julius7996> :P
#3781 [20:32] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3782 [20:32] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3783 [20:32] <Julius7996> ..
#3784 [20:32] <Julius7996> ye
#3785 [20:32] <Julius7996> but most of them arent updated yet
#3786 [20:32] <Joomz> Hm...To Africa and/or the Ukraine!
#3787 [20:32] <thig> bye
#3788 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> well, see if you can entice an admin to install an update as buggy as 1.5 is, and there you go.
#3789 [20:33] <thig> wait,one more question,are any of you guys swedish?
#3790 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> no, but the Swedes make the most delicious fish.
#3791 [20:33] <thig> true
#3792 [20:34] <thig> bye bye,now!
#3793 [20:35] <Joomz> DopeGhoti, for sharing your valuable knowledge, you'll gain a cut. Expet a check in the next 5-8 business days.
#3794 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> Joomz: Excellent. Pleasure doing business with you.
#3795 [20:36] <[E]MARANTz> Want a new skin? give me a picture of a figure or something, and ill make a skin as good as i can :))
#3796 [20:36] <[E]MARANTz> oh, wrong chat :))
#3797 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: make [E]MARANTz a new skin
#3798 [20:36] * VoxelHead concentrates mightily
#3798 [20:37] <VoxelHead> *PING* ... [e]marantz is a new skin
#3799 [20:37] <VoxelHead> I AM THE WIZARD$^@*#£@*@~^^
#3800 [20:38] <bread> \o/
#3801 [20:39] <Joomz> I'm your wizard.
#3802 [20:39] <[E]MARANTz> Im Potter, Harry Potter.
#3803 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> I don't have his IM contact information. Also, he's a fictional character.
#3804 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> therefore, he's hard to IM.
#3805 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> besides.. why?
#3806 [20:46] <Joomz> WEARING PURPLE, WEARING PURPLE!
#3807 [20:46] <Joomz> I love to wear the purple!
#3808 [20:47] <dark_mirage> i like axe excitwe
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#3810 [20:50] <VoxelHead> bye elcamo13
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#3813 [20:59] <Wug> hello
#3814 [21:00] <Wug> how's today been
#3815 [21:02] <bokaholic> Good for me. :) Yourself?
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#3818 [21:10] <[E]MARANTz> Anyone know why i cant talk in "#minecraft" ?
#3819 [21:11] <bread> you have to register your nick
#3820 [21:11] <bread> ask #help if you can't figure it out
#3821 [21:11] <Silent_Samurai> [E]MARANTz, /msg NickServ help register
#3822 [21:13] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
#3823 [21:16] <Wug> VOXELHEAD
#3824 [21:16] <Wug> vox, I love you
#3825 [21:16] <bread> I love you more vox
#3826 [21:17] <Wug> VOX I WANT TO HAVE YOUR BABBYS
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#3828 [21:17] <kaboomarang> Sup
#3829 [21:17] <Wug> oh nothing
#3830 [21:17] <kaboomarang> Ey can anyone tell me how to fix the failed to bind port thing?
#3831 [21:19] <Wug> what os are you on
#3832 [21:19] <Wug> windows?
#3833 [21:19] <kaboomarang> Aye
#3834 [21:19] <Wug> is the server already running
#3835 [21:19] <kaboomarang> nope
#3836 [21:19] <Wug> (in a borked or crashed state)
#3837 [21:19] <kaboomarang> i ended the java process too
#3838 [21:19] <Wug> av software?
#3839 [21:20] <VoxelHead> r a shrubbery
#3840 [21:20] <Wug> the issue is
#3841 [21:20] <Wug> only one thing can bind to a port at a time
#3842 [21:20] <Wug> and somethings obviously already using it
#3843 [21:20] <kaboomarang> ah
#3844 [21:20] <kaboomarang> alright i'll change the port and try agin
#3845 [21:21] <kaboomarang> still giving me the error
#3846 [21:21] <Wug> I suspect maybe you have av software that's holding ports
#3847 [21:21] <kaboomarang> 25560
#3848 [21:21] <Wug> turn your firewalls off
#3849 [21:21] <kaboomarang> ok
#3850 [21:23] <kaboomarang> still giving me the error
#3851 [21:23] <kaboomarang> heres what it says if it helps at all The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#3852 [21:23] <Wug> turn more firewalls off
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#3854 [21:23] <Wug> try running as an admin?
#3855 [21:24] <kaboomarang> how do i turn off more than one firewall?
#3856 [21:24] <kaboomarang> i dident know i had more than one..
#3857 [21:24] <Wug> do you have more than one?
#3858 [21:24] <kaboomarang> i dont think so
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#3860 [21:25] <kaboomarang> it it helps i ran a LAN server before
#3861 [21:25] <kaboomarang> am i suppost to put my ip in the server config file?
#3862 [21:25] <kaboomarang> cause i did
#3863 [21:27] <nipper> Is there a way to use a seed code on a SMP server?
#3864 [21:28] <kaboomarang> Mhmm, assuming you already have the level you can just put that in place of the default generated world
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#3866 [21:28] <kaboomarang> just make the world in SP
#3867 [21:28] <Wug> yes there is nipper, look in server.properties
#3868 [21:29] <kaboomarang> oh
#3869 [21:29] <kaboomarang> cool
#3870 [21:29] <nipper> Naw I want to start a hole new map on SMP but I don't see the setting for seed code there.
#3871 [21:29] <Wug> kaboomerang, take your ip out of the config file, it usually isn't necessary
#3872 [21:29] <kaboomarang> oh
#3873 [21:29] <kaboomarang> alrighty
#3874 [21:29] <Wug> nipper, delete the world
#3875 [21:29] <Wug> or rename it
#3876 [21:30] <kaboomarang> wug mind helping test the server? my good friend is afk atm.
#3877 [21:30] <Wug> or open the config file and change the worlds name to something else
#3878 [21:30] <Wug> sure
#3879 [21:30] <kaboomarang> 184.18.131.121
#3880 [21:30] <kaboomarang> okey
#3881 [21:30] <kaboomarang> thanks
#3882 [21:30] <nipper> No Wug not that. I want it to render chunks using a seed code.
#3883 [21:30] <nipper> like what single player has.
#3884 [21:31] <Wug> nipper, server.properties can do that. if you want a whole new world, delete everything and start from scratch. your server.properties is probably out of date
#3885 [21:31] <oldtopmanserver> Does anyone here have the ID for buckets?
#3886 [21:31] <Wug> ??wiki
#3887 [21:31] <Wug> ?? wiki
#3888 [21:31] <VoxelHead> wiki: For general questions about Minecraft gameplay, the Minecraft Wiki is an excellent resource.
#3889 [21:31] <VoxelHead> wiki: Go to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/ and enjoy!
#3890 [21:31] <Wug> in other words, no
#3891 [21:31] <nipper> Did that. But there is no setting int he server.prop for seed.
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#3893 [21:31] <oldtopmanserver> Wug: No internet here.
#3894 [21:32] <Wug> you don't have internet and you're using irc?
#3895 [21:32] <oldtopmanserver> nvm then.
#3896 [21:32] <Wug> please explain to me how that works
#3897 [21:32] <oldtopmanserver> It is a tayjer long story.
#3898 [21:32] <oldtopmanserver> rather*
#3899 [21:32] <kaboomarang> XD
#3900 [21:33] <nipper> Like I said. My question is, Is there a way to make a SMP map render out with a seed code from scrach in SMP? I don't see the setting in server.prop for seed code thats why I ask.
#3901 [21:34] <Wug> YES THERE IS
#3902 [21:34] <Wug> in server.properties
#3903 [21:34] <nipper> Try it and look.
#3904 [21:34] <kaboomarang> check agin
#3905 [21:34] <Wug> there is a field called 'level-seed'
#3906 [21:34] <Wug> set it to something
#3907 [21:34] <Wug> im looking at it right now
#3908 [21:34] <kaboomarang> mhmm
#3909 [21:34] <nipper> wtf it was not there sorry about that.
#3910 [21:35] <Wug> delete it and let it regenerate
#3911 [21:35] <nipper> When I looked it was not there.
#3912 [21:35] <nipper> I got it.
#3913 [21:35] <Wug> ok
#3914 [21:35] <kaboomarang> anyways wug does the server work?
#3915 [21:35] <Wug> lol I forgot to check
#3916 [21:35] <Wug> hang o
#3917 [21:35] <kaboomarang> lol
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#3919 [21:37] <Wug> is your server 1.5 or 1.4
#3920 [21:37] <kaboomarang> 1.5 ofc
#3921 [21:38] <Wug> ive actually started backing up mine
#3922 [21:38] <kaboomarang> minecraft?
#3923 [21:38] <kaboomarang> or server?
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#3925 [21:38] <Wug> minecraft
#3926 [21:38] <Wug> anyway, I can't connect
#3927 [21:38] <kaboomarang> Ah yeah
#3928 [21:38] <Wug> you're sure the ip is right?
#3929 [21:38] <kaboomarang> aw.
#3930 [21:39] <kaboomarang> yeah i went to whatsmyip.com
#3931 [21:39] <Wug> have you done any port forwarding
#3932 [21:39] <kaboomarang> no but it worked when i was playing on lan
#3933 [21:39] <Wug> (are you running on a different port)
#3934 [21:39] <kaboomarang> Yea
#3935 [21:39] <kaboomarang> i'll change it back
#3936 [21:39] <Wug> you could just tell me what it is
#3937 [21:39] <kaboomarang> well its 25565 now,
#3938 [21:40] <kaboomarang> :P
#3939 [21:40] <Wug> still cant get through
#3940 [21:40] <Wug> have you forwarded ports at all
#3941 [21:40] <kaboomarang> thats cause i shut the server down on accidnet for a sec :S
#3942 [21:40] <kaboomarang> try agin'
#3943 [21:40] <kaboomarang> i was changin ports
#3944 [21:40] <Wug> ok thats better
#3945 [21:41] <kaboomarang> its working!?
#3946 [21:42] <Wug> I seem to be getting a lot of lag
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#3949 [21:50] <bluejello> my minecraft only shows nothing...
#3950 [21:50] <bluejello> and yes, I have tried deleting the .minecraft folder.
#3951 [21:51] <bluejello> even in firefox it crashes.
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#3956 [21:57] <josh_> hey guys im having a problem minecraft will no longer connect when starting in Fedora 15
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#3958 [21:57] <Vector> will it get to the login screen?
#3959 [21:58] <Wug> lol
#3960 [21:58] <Wug> try running it as root?
#3961 [21:59] <josh_> yes but after the login credentials it says cannot connect to minecraft.net
#3962 [21:59] <josh_> and when i click the links above it crashes chrome
#3963 [22:00] <Vector> ;o
#3964 [22:00] <VoxelHead> cor
#3965 [22:00] <Vector> but it's not using chrome to browse the site
#3966 [22:00] <Vector> it has its own java web browser control
#3967 [22:01] <josh_> o
#3968 [22:01] <Vector> how recent was this?
#3969 [22:01] <josh_> im going to try and see if i can get the windows version to work in wine
#3970 [22:01] <josh_> just today
#3971 [22:01] <josh_> all of the links open chrome but it crashes all of my extensions and the page???
#3972 [22:02] <josh_> freaking hate fedora lol
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#3974 [22:04] <josh_> i havent had any problem before but now it won't let me update or anything
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#3977 [22:05] <TheBix> uh
#3978 [22:05] <TheBix> so ah, yeah I'm just here to say I told you so
#3979 [22:05] <TheBix> about minecraft being incredibly poorly programmed and thus having low fps.
#3980 [22:05] <TheBix> :P
#3981 [22:06] <TheBix> you guys all said "NO ITS RENDERING OVER 9000 BLOX OF COURSE ITS GONNA LAG" but this new update proves the low FPS was just notch's poor programming, seeing as my pc can now run it on full graphics
#3982 [22:07] <TheBix> so there.
#3983 [22:07] <josh_> wow.......
#3984 [22:07] <Vector> lmao
#3985 [22:07] <Vector> TheBix
#3986 [22:07] <Vector> Thank Java.
#3987 [22:08] <TheBix> yeah imagine if it were programmed in something native
#3988 [22:08] <TheBix> i'd be able to keep fancy mode on in a forest :D
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#3990 [22:08] <Vector> nothing is native, you require libraries to run C/C++ programs
#3991 [22:08] <Vector> lol
#3992 [22:08] <Vector> native would be ASM
#3993 [22:08] <Vector> :P
#3994 [22:09] <josh_> well fedora officially sucks because i cant get wine to install properly grrrr
#3995 [22:09] <Vector> so it worked before in fedora?
#3996 [22:09] <TheBix> Vector: C is native because it compiles down to something that the machine can run directly
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#3998 [22:09] <TheBix> whether or not it needs libraries and stuff is irrelevant
#3999 [22:09] <Vector> no.... C is not something that the CPU can understand directly
#4000 [22:10] <TheBix> Vector: of course not, but when compiled it is.
#4001 [22:10] <Vector> ya
#4002 [22:10] <TheBix> which is what I said
#4003 [22:10] <Vector> it's compiled to ASM :P
#4004 [22:10] <TheBix> un like java which when it is compiled, needs to be run on a vm on your typical x86 machine
#4005 [22:10] <TheBix> and is therefore not native to x86
#4006 [22:11] <Vector> good point
#4007 [22:11] <Vector> but you can still compile java, byte code
#4008 [22:11] <Vector> either way
#4009 [22:11] <josh_> vector would you happen to know how difficult it would be to run minecraft in arch/chakra linux
#4010 [22:11] <josh_> its the only other live cd i have available
#4011 [22:11] <Vector> i've never heard of that distro
#4012 [22:11] <TheBix> josh_: I would assume it would be as difficult as getting a jvm on that os.
#4013 [22:11] <xolotl> Technically it's just compiled to machine code, not ASM
#4014 [22:12] <VoxelHead> The best kind of it
#4015 [22:12] <xolotl> ASM's a small step up from machine code
#4016 [22:12] * xolotl picks nits
#4016 [22:12] <xolotl> :)
#4017 [22:12] <VoxelHead> -_-
#4018 [22:12] <Vector> ya
#4019 [22:12] <TheBix> ASM is just the word for the textual representation of machine code
#4020 [22:12] <TheBix> hes right
#4021 [22:12] <Vector> java is compiled to machine code?
#4022 [22:12] <VoxelHead> No, that doesn't make me horny.
#4023 [22:12] <TheBix> machine code that is native to the jvm i guess.
#4024 [22:13] <xolotl> Vector: Java's compiled to something called "bytecode"
#4025 [22:13] <Vector> actually, ASM is actual CPU instructions
#4026 [22:13] <xolotl> Vector: Which is still a pretty long way away from machine code
#4027 [22:13] <TheBix> Vector: yeah, except represented in text
#4028 [22:13] <TheBix> you still need to "assemble" ASM code.
#4029 [22:13] <Vector> Example ASM: mov ebx, edi, which is a CPU instruction to move data to a register or something, I don't know much ASM
#4030 [22:13] <TheBix> which is just converting all the text to bytes.
#4031 [22:14] <TheBix> Vector: that instruction copies edi to ebx.
#4032 [22:14] <TheBix> mov ebx,[edi] would move the byte at the address edi to ebx.
#4033 [22:14] <TheBix> I mean the dword not the byte :P
#4034 [22:14] <Vector> oh cool
#4035 [22:14] <Vector> but either way ASM != binary
#4036 [22:15] <TheBix> I know a lot about asm, I wrote a bootable pong game
#4037 [22:15] <TheBix> just for the lols
#4038 [22:15] <Vector> oooooooh nice
#4039 [22:15] <TheBix> and I did it entirely in asm
#4040 [22:15] <Vector> you fluent in asm?
#4041 [22:15] <TheBix> kinda
#4042 [22:15] <Vector> well
#4043 [22:15] <Vector> it must be a valuable skill to have
#4044 [22:15] <TheBix> I actually learnt it just for hacking software :3
#4045 [22:16] <TheBix> but then I decided to use it for writing actual programs seeing as its not that much harder than C
#4046 [22:16] <xolotl> I absolutely loved working in ASM when I had a semester of it, way back when
#4047 [22:16] <xolotl> Sadly I've never really used it since
#4048 [22:16] <xolotl> QQ
#4049 [22:16] <TheBix> the only difference between asm and C is you press the enter key a lot more
#4050 [22:17] <TheBix> you're still dealing with the same stuff and you have to do the same amount of stuff
#4051 [22:17] <Vector> oh gosh
#4052 [22:17] <TheBix> if you get what I'm trying to say :P
#4053 [22:17] <Vector> you must be european, TheBix
#4054 [22:17] <Vector> Australian?
#4055 [22:17] <TheBix> Yeah why?
#4056 [22:17] <Vector> i knew it
#4057 [22:17] <Vector> LOL
#4058 [22:17] <Vector> "Learnt"
#4059 [22:17] <Vector> XD
#4060 [22:17] <TheBix> oh
#4061 [22:19] <TheBix> all I can say now is that minecraft runs WAY BETTER now that notch cleaned up his shitty code
#4062 [22:19] <TheBix> oh and "TOLD YOU SO!!!"
#4063 [22:19] <Vector> O.O
#4064 [22:21] <bokaholic> :o
#4065 [22:21] <bokaholic> Runs the same for me
#4066 [22:21] <VoxelHead> ARRRRGH!
#4067 [22:21] <bokaholic> !!?
#4068 [22:21] <bokaholic> VoxelHead, calm down botbud.
#4069 [22:22] * bread hugs vox
#4069 [22:22] <VoxelHead> *boing*
#4070 [22:22] <bread> :D
#4071 [22:22] <VoxelHead> :-)
#4072 [22:23] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#4073 [22:28] * thig [thig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4074 [22:28] <thig> remember me?
#4075 [22:29] <TheBix> no
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#4077 [22:31] <thig> how do you update lwjgwl?
#4078 [22:31] <thig> in the .minecraft bin
#4079 [22:31] <TheBix> you don't
#4080 [22:31] <xMopx> Whats the best level to dig at for iron?
#4081 [22:32] <TheBix> xMopx: doesn't matter.
#4082 [22:32] <thig> i have to to fix my problem that nobody can solve
#4083 [22:32] <TheBix> whats that problem?
#4084 [22:32] <xMopx> Ah is it all about the same below 60?
#4085 [22:32] <TheBix> its just all the same everywhere
#4086 [22:32] <TheBix> I find iron above ground quite often
#4087 [22:33] <thig> do you want to hear my problem,because its long and nobody can solve it,literally
#4088 [22:34] <thig> although that is what i came here for,so i guess ill tell you
#4089 [22:35] <TheBix> ok
#4090 [22:38] <thig> when i get to the title screen in minecraft,it freezes then my display goes to 4 bit instead of 32bit,the regular.then it says that my display driver isnt working normally,reboot to restore.when i reboot,it goes back to normal but i still cant play minecraft.i have played minecraft before
#4091 [22:38] <thig> my driver is updated too
#4092 [22:38] <TheBix> 4 bit? so you only have 16 colours?
#4093 [22:39] <thig> i think so
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#4095 [22:39] <TheBix> to update lwjgl you could probably get it off their site
#4096 [22:39] * BioBlue slaps ArmEagle around a bit with a large trout
#4096 [22:39] <BioBlue> :O
#4097 [22:39] <VoxelHead> Marmalade.
#4098 [22:40] <BioBlue> i have
#4099 [22:40] <BioBlue> question
#4100 [22:40] <BioBlue> How add IRCBot to my minecraft server
#4101 [22:40] <xolotl> thig: Yeah, have you tried replacing the lwjgl libraries with recent ones?
#4102 [22:40] <xolotl> It's worth a shot if you haven't
#4103 [22:41] <thig> thats what i was asking help for
#4104 [22:41] <thig> can you help me?
#4105 [22:41] <xolotl> (specifically jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar, lwjgl_util.jar, and the contents of the "natives" dir)
#4106 [22:41] <BioBlue> anyone can answer plz
#4107 [22:41] <thig> i downloaded it,but i dont know where to put it
#4108 [22:41] <xolotl> thig: Sure, though it's not too complicated. Just download http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.7.1/lwjgl-2.7.1.zip/download ...
#4109 [22:41] <xolotl> thig: ... then unzip it, and replace those files
#4110 [22:41] <xolotl> They'll be in your .minecraft/bin folder
#4111 [22:42] <xolotl> Replace the three .jar files, and then everything in "natives"
#4112 [22:42] <xolotl> You'll have to look around inside the lwjgl distribution; I don't remember exactly where they are, but they're in there.
#4113 [22:43] <thig> can you tell me that agian xolotl?
#4114 [22:43] <thig> i got kicked or something
#4115 [22:43] <xolotl> sure
#4116 [22:43] <xolotl> http://pastebin.com/HVQp5PBp
#4117 [22:44] <xolotl> (the "three files" being jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar, lwjgl_util.jar)
#4118 [22:46] <TheBix> some one tell notch
#4119 [22:46] <TheBix> to fix repeaters.
#4120 [22:47] <xolotl> TheBix: I'll call him right up!
#4121 [22:47] <TheBix> tyvm
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#4124 [22:50] <thig> im really sorry xolotl,but the thing happened again,i need you to tell me again
#4125 [22:50] <thig> the 4 bit thing
#4126 [22:50] <thig> i restarted
#4127 [22:51] <thig> send me the link
#4128 [22:52] <xolotl> TheBix: http://pastebin.com/gSULP2Kn
#4129 [22:52] <xolotl> er
#4130 [22:52] <xolotl> thig: http://pastebin.com/gSULP2Kn
#4131 [22:52] <xolotl> TheBix: You can go ahead and ignore that. :)
#4132 [22:52] <TheBix> k
#4133 [22:52] <xolotl> Sometimes I wonder what my tab-complete is on. I should probably check the settings because sometimes it's quite nonsensical
#4134 [22:53] <xolotl> I suppose at the time you were the last person I had actually talked to; that probably does make sense, then
#4135 [22:53] * xolotl yammers on about stuff
#4135 [22:53] <thig> how do i unzip something?
#4136 [22:53] <thig> 7zip?
#4137 [22:53] <xolotl> thig: I'm heading AFK for a few but I'll be back in a bit, btw
#4138 [22:53] <thig> afk?
#4139 [22:54] <xolotl> thig: 7zip would do it, sure. Any modern Windows will probably let you just right-click and "extract" though.
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#4141 [22:54] <xolotl> And by "modern" I mean, like, since XP (so not really even modern at all)
#4142 [22:54] <xolotl> thig: "AFK" == "Away From Keyboard", or in other words, doing things in Real Life
#4143 [22:54] * xolotl wvaes
#4143 [22:54] <xolotl> er, waves.
#4144 [22:55] <Bio_Hazzard> Guys you know rail detectors?
#4145 [22:55] <Bio_Hazzard> Whenever I use one
#4146 [22:55] <Bio_Hazzard> Minecraft crashes
#4147 [22:56] * xownagex__ [xownagex__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4148 [22:56] <xownagex__> hai
#4149 [22:56] <xownagex__> anybody here
#4150 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#4151 [22:56] <VoxelHead> no
#4152 [22:57] <xownagex__> ah
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#4154 [22:57] <Bio_Hazzard> don't worry
#4155 [22:57] <Bio_Hazzard> it stopped doing that
#4156 [22:57] <Bio_Hazzard> :\
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#4159 [23:04] <pudgetta> having problems with the game not loading
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#4161 [23:04] <thig> so,anybody besides xolotl know how to update lwjgwl?
#4162 [23:05] <thig> no,got it\
#4163 [23:06] <pudgetta> it ts stuck on the updating minecraft screen
#4164 [23:06] <pudgetta> `1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1`1\
#4165 [23:06] <pudgetta> \
#4166 [23:06] <pudgetta> \
#4167 [23:06] <pudgetta> \
#4168 [23:06] <pudgetta> \
#4169 [23:06] <pudgetta> \
#4170 [23:06] <bread> wat
#4171 [23:06] <Vector> wat
#4172 [23:07] <bread> also, lol @ +q
#4173 [23:07] <bread> pwnt
#4174 [23:07] <Vector> lmao
#4175 [23:07] <thig> ok,i updated my lwjgwl,but i got a blackscreen
#4176 [23:07] <thig> help?
#4177 [23:08] <thig> anybody?
#4178 [23:08] <pudgetta> dropped my keyboard
#4179 [23:08] <thig> uhoh
#4180 [23:08] <thig> how do you do that?
#4181 [23:08] <pudgetta> it is in my lap\
#4182 [23:09] <thig> oh
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#4185 [23:10] <pudgetta> my game is stuck at 95% update and will not moved
#4186 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> pudgetta win/reinst
#4187 [23:11] <VoxelHead> pudgetta: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4188 [23:11] <VoxelHead> pudgetta: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4189 [23:12] <thig> chirp chirp
#4190 [23:12] <thig> xolotl,you still afk?
#4191 [23:12] <thig> ill take that as ayes
#4192 [23:12] <thig> theres so many commands on this
#4193 [23:12] <xolotl> thig: Just sat back down again
#4194 [23:12] <thig> YEEEES
#4195 [23:12] <xolotl> thig: If you got a blackscreen after updating LWJGL then that clearly won't help
#4196 [23:12] <thig> what?
#4197 [23:12] <xolotl> thig: The only other thing I could recommend is to make double-sure that you're using the latest video drivers for your video card
#4198 [23:13] <thig> i do
#4199 [23:13] <xolotl> (which I suppose actually should have been step 1, rather than jumping to the LWJGL thing, but there we have it)
#4200 [23:13] <thig> wait,can you explain it more clearly?
#4201 [23:13] <thig> the steps
#4202 [23:14] <pudgetta> THANKS
#4203 [23:14] <thig> like,there are four jar files,not three
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#4205 [23:14] <thig> xolotl?
#4206 [23:14] <xolotl> thig: Right, the fourth is minecraft.jar, which you wouldn't want to replace since it's not a part of LWJGL
#4207 [23:15] <thig> i didnt replace,i dragged and dropped
#4208 [23:15] <thig> files
#4209 [23:15] <thig> oh
#4210 [23:15] <Vector> shouldn't you just try to reinstall java?
#4211 [23:15] <thig> how do i replace?
#4212 [23:16] <thig> that didnt work,plus,this time i got something different,YAY
#4213 [23:16] <thig> xolotl,how do i replace
#4214 [23:16] <xolotl> Vector: Ah yeah, that too
#4215 [23:16] <xolotl> thig: Try reinstalling Java and all that
#4216 [23:17] <xolotl> thig: I'd guess that they were probably replaced. Did you get a message about "do you want to overwrite" when you dragged-and-dropped?
#4217 [23:17] <Vector> why would you need to replace the file if it gets downloaded when you run minecraft for the first time, or you delete /bin/?
#4218 [23:17] <xolotl> Vector: He was trying to upgrade LWJGL and see if that would fix his problem
#4219 [23:18] <xolotl> Which is possible; on my old laptop I could only play Minecraft if I replaced all the LWJGL files with newer versions than Minecraft itself distributed
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#4221 [23:19] <thig> yes i did
#4222 [23:20] <thig> say overwrite
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#4224 [23:20] <thig> xolotl?
#4225 [23:21] <TheBix> guys
#4226 [23:21] * I_Eat_Plastic [I_Eat_Plastic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4227 [23:21] <thig> ya
#4228 [23:22] <thig> actually,im a wo-man.both genders.
#4229 [23:22] <thig> jk
#4230 [23:23] <thig> xolotl?
#4231 [23:23] <thig> are you still helping me?
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#4233 [23:23] <xolotl> thig: I've been in and out. I really don't have many more ideas though
#4234 [23:23] <xolotl> You could try reinstalling Java from oracle.com, as Vector mentioned, though I kind of suspect that won't do it
#4235 [23:24] <thig> no,i just want you to awnser my questions
#4236 [23:24] <thig> what about the doc folder in lwjgl?
#4237 [23:25] <thig> yoyou are out too much,increase the in,xolotl
#4238 [23:27] <thig> maybe hes talking to me on his microphone
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#4240 [23:27] <thig> i dont have a microphone xolotl
#4241 [23:27] <relsqui> thig: did you seriously just order someone who's volunteering time to help you to pay more attention?
#4242 [23:28] <thig> sorry,im just used to it.
#4243 [23:29] <thig> when it takes a long time for anybody to awnser you,it gets frustrating
#4244 [23:30] <thig> btw xolotl,thanks for helping me.\
#4245 [23:30] <relsqui> sure. and yet, real life still takes precedence.
#4246 [23:30] <xolotl> thig: The only things you'd need to try replacing is those three jar files, and the stuff in the "natives" directory
#4247 [23:31] <thig> ok
#4248 [23:31] <thig> can try to stay on though,xolotl,please
#4249 [23:32] <xolotl> thig: I'm around when I'm around
#4250 [23:33] <xolotl> thig: I don't mind giving support for stuff but it's not a priority, so you're going to have to cope with me being not here every second, waiting on your beck and call
#4251 [23:33] <xolotl> IRC may seem like a way to get instant support, and often it does work like that, but in reality it is simply not a realtime mechanism. Patience is required.
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#4253 [23:34] <thig> ok
#4254 [23:35] <thig> good speech
#4255 [23:35] <VoxelHead> good speech... geech
#4256 [23:35] <thig> vox
#4257 [23:36] <thig> i think you and bread are on a date
#4258 [23:36] * bread hugs vox
#4258 [23:36] <VoxelHead> B to the L B L B L B L B L B L B L
#4259 [23:36] <thig> lol
#4260 [23:36] * Wug hurls Voxelhead out the window
#4260 [23:36] <Wug> hello
#4261 [23:37] <VoxelHead> *hurls Wug back with some binaries*
#4262 [23:37] * Wug decompiles them
#4262 [23:37] <Wug> WITH MY FACE
#4263 [23:38] <thig> wug is fun
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#4265 [23:39] <thig> remember me wug?
#4266 [23:39] <Wug> course I do
#4267 [23:39] <thig> YAY
#4268 [23:39] <Wug> does opengl still bork your computer
#4269 [23:39] <thig> i think i found the solution,i had to update lwjgl
#4270 [23:40] <thig> but i got a blackscreen instead of 4bit
#4271 [23:40] <Wug> I guess that's an improvement
#4272 [23:40] <thig> ya
#4273 [23:40] <thig> i dont have to restart any more
#4274 [23:41] <thig> can you do that share computer thing to see whats wrong?
#4275 [23:42] <thig> im probably the most impacient person here
#4276 [23:42] <thig> and i probably have the worst spelling too
#4277 [23:43] <thig> wug,do you know what im talking about?
#4278 [23:44] <thig> the share computer thing
#4279 [23:44] <Wug> teamviewer
#4280 [23:44] <thig> ya
#4281 [23:44] <Wug> not right now, I have to pack up in a few minutes
#4282 [23:44] <Wug> maye later tonight
#4283 [23:44] <thig> ok
#4284 [23:44] <thig> bye bye
#4285 [23:45] <thig> where you going?
#4286 [23:45] <thig> Hawaii?
#4287 [23:46] <Wug> lol I wish
#4288 [23:46] <Wug> more like back to the dorm because the lab is about to close
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#4290 [23:51] <thig> colledge
#4291 [23:51] <thig> bye
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#4293 [23:55] * VoxelHead is away: I am the magic horse£~@££!*~$##!~~!