#1 [00:00] * thig [thig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2 [00:03] <thig> what do i do if i updated lwjgl and i get a blackscreen
#3 [00:03] <thig> i already updated java
#4 [00:04] <thig> theres like 161 people idling
#5 [00:04] <thig> why?
#6 [00:05] <thig> bread
#7 [00:05] <bread> me
#8 [00:05] <thig> yes
#9 [00:05] <thig> read my first post
#10 [00:05] <bread> what first post
#11 [00:06] <bread> when my nick is 'stalebread' that means I am not logged into my IRC client
#12 [00:06] <bread> and therefore, don't see any messages
#13 [00:06] <thig> uh,what do i do if i updated lwjgl and i get a blackscreen?
#14 [00:06] <bread> lwjgl
#15 [00:06] <bread> what is that
#16 [00:06] <thig> the jar in .minecraft/.bin
#17 [00:07] <bread> what
#18 [00:07] <thig> go to appdata,go to .minecraft, go to bin.
#19 [00:07] <bread> I'm not running windows.
#20 [00:08] <thig> oh
#21 [00:08] <bread> I have no 'appdata'
#22 [00:08] <thig> oh
#23 [00:08] <thig> go to your .minecraft folder,go to bin
#24 [00:08] <bread> oh that
#25 [00:08] <bread> derp
#26 [00:08] <thig> have you ever modded minecraft?
#27 [00:08] <thig> nevermind
#28 [00:09] <thig> so,what do i do to fix it?
#29 [00:09] <bread> no, I have not
#30 [00:09] <bread> ?? mods
#31 [00:09] <VoxelHead> mods: his channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#32 [00:09] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#33 [00:09] <thig> no, not hte mod thing, the lwjgl thing
#34 [00:10] <bread> unupdate it?
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#36 [00:10] <bread> ?? win/reinst
#37 [00:10] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#38 [00:10] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#39 [00:11] <thig> no,it doesnt work normal
#40 [00:11] <thig> i had to update it for it to work normally,but i got a blackscreen
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#42 [00:12] <bread> and why can't you upgrade your video card drivers?
#43 [00:12] <thig> is xolotl on?
#44 [00:12] <thig> my video card drivers are updated
#45 [00:12] <bread> ...
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#47 [00:13] <thig> im not an idiot
#48 [00:13] <thig> ive been at this for two weeks
#49 [00:14] <thig> the only thing that made a difference was this
#50 [00:14] <thig> updating lwjgl
#51 [00:14] <thig> i have a feeling bread doesnt know what im talking about,lwjgl
#52 [00:15] <bread> nope
#53 [00:15] <bread> no idea
#54 [00:15] <thig> .seen xolotl
#55 [00:15] <ManOfVirtues> thats creepy I am coming in here with the same issue thig
#56 [00:15] <thig> why doesnt it work?
#57 [00:15] <thig> wow DINALLY SOMEONE WITH THE SAME ISSUE
#58 [00:16] <ManOfVirtues> Ubuntu 10.10 ?
#59 [00:16] <thig> what?
#60 [00:16] <ManOfVirtues> what OS you running?
#61 [00:16] <mib_sltgx8> Hahaha, he has no idea what Ubuntu is. :P
#62 [00:16] <thig> windows xp proffesional
#63 [00:17] <mib_sltgx8> And you have the newest chipset drivers, java version, lwjgl version?
#64 [00:17] <ManOfVirtues> what JRE do you have installed?
#65 [00:17] <bread> lolbuntu
#66 [00:17] <bread> Linux != Ubuntu
#67 [00:17] <thig> jre?talk normal
#68 [00:17] <bread> ...
#69 [00:17] <bread> .___.
#70 [00:17] <mib_sltgx8> Java Runtime Enviornment.
#71 [00:17] <mib_sltgx8> It makes the game go.
#72 [00:17] <thig> oh
#73 [00:18] <mib_sltgx8> You need the newest version to keep things from going boom.
#74 [00:18] <ManOfVirtues> What is the exact error message your getting?
#75 [00:18] <thig> the latest one.version 6 update 24
#76 [00:18] <thig> its just blackscreen,no error message
#77 [00:18] <mib_sltgx8> deleted .minecraft?
#78 [00:18] <thig> no
#79 [00:18] <mib_sltgx8> Do you know how to do that?
#80 [00:19] <mib_sltgx8> Try that.
#81 [00:19] <mib_sltgx8> It pretty much ALWAYS fixes that.
#82 [00:19] <thig> ok
#83 [00:19] <mib_sltgx8> Make sure to back up saves and textures first. ;) :P
#84 [00:19] <bread> ?? win/reinst
#85 [00:19] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#86 [00:19] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#87 [00:19] <ManOfVirtues> the issue I am hitting is java.lang.IllegalStateException: Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time.
#88 [00:20] <thig> thats ok,ill just start new worlds
#89 [00:20] <mib_sltgx8> ManOf, I had that issue before...
#90 [00:21] <mib_sltgx8> Trying to remember how I solved it...
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#92 [00:21] <mib_sltgx8> You're running vanilla 1.5 on 10.10 from the jar in default terminal?
#93 [00:21] <bread> 'default terminal'?
#94 [00:21] <oracular> The dictionary has no entries for "terminal'?"
#95 [00:21] <bread> what does that even mean
#96 [00:21] <ManOfVirtues> executing the jar
#97 [00:21] <ManOfVirtues> built shortcut on desktop
#98 [00:22] <ManOfVirtues> same difference
#99 [00:22] <mib_sltgx8> Sure. Hrm... do you have a graphics card?
#100 [00:22] <mib_sltgx8> I think I got that error when I was trying to install a new graphics card, and it was conflicting with onboard gpu.
#101 [00:23] <ManOfVirtues> let me check the Spec Toshiba Satellite notebook
#102 [00:23] <bread> 'do you have a graphics card'?
#103 [00:23] <bread> hahahah
#104 [00:23] <ManOfVirtues> thats funny
#105 [00:23] <bread> Everyone has a graphics card, bro
#106 [00:23] <bread> or else you'd see nothing
#107 [00:24] <mib_sltgx8> I meant not integrated.
#108 [00:24] <ManOfVirtues> ahh no
#109 [00:24] <ManOfVirtues> intergrated card
#110 [00:24] <bread> integrated = shit
#111 [00:24] <mib_sltgx8> Hrm...try updating drivers?
#112 [00:24] <ManOfVirtues> lol you dont have to tell me that
#113 [00:24] <mib_sltgx8> Haha, true.
#114 [00:27] <mib_sltgx8> Proprietary driver or opensource?
#115 [00:28] <ManOfVirtues> I have not updated any of them still using recommended
#116 [00:29] <mib_sltgx8> I think Ubuntu gives you the open source drivers if it can find them...
#117 [00:29] <mib_sltgx8> From what I've read, that can cause issues. Try installing the proprietary ones, if that's not a big deal?
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#119 [00:30] <thig> hey,the delete .minecraft didnt work
#120 [00:30] <ManOfVirtues> Toshiba doesnt have any listed so its going to be a bit more complicated
#121 [00:30] <thig> ok?
#122 [00:31] <mib_sltgx8> thig, did it make a new .minecraft?
#123 [00:31] <mib_sltgx8> And it still does that?
#124 [00:31] <mib_sltgx8> Did it work before 1.5?
#125 [00:31] <bread> ManOfVirtues: use the hardware drivers thing in lolbuntu
#126 [00:31] <mib_sltgx8> ManOf, doesn't have any what listed?
#127 [00:31] <bread> actually
#128 [00:31] <bread> ManOfVirtues: open a terminal, and do 'lspic | grep VGA'
#129 [00:31] <bread> er
#130 [00:32] <bread> lspci | grep VGA
#131 [00:32] <ManOfVirtues> well that helps
#132 [00:32] <bread> ...
#133 [00:32] <ManOfVirtues> thanks
#134 [00:32] <bread> did you do it?
#135 [00:32] <ManOfVirtues> yea
#136 [00:32] <bread> lspci | grep VGA ?
#137 [00:33] <ManOfVirtues> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
#138 [00:33] <bread> intel
#139 [00:33] <bread> meh
#140 [00:33] <ManOfVirtues> free dev notebook can't complain
#141 [00:34] <bread> did hardware drivers have anything for your card?
#142 [00:36] <ManOfVirtues> checking
#143 [00:39] <ManOfVirtues> no dice
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#145 [00:42] <bread> :<
#146 [00:42] <bread> well, open up synaptic, and look for them there, I suppose
#147 [00:43] <bread> search for 'xf86-video-intel'
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#149 [00:47] <ManOfVirtues> need to reboot
#150 [00:47] <ManOfVirtues> be back
#151 [00:47] <bread> lolkay
#152 [00:47] <Wug> BREAD
#153 [00:47] * Wug noms bread
#153 [00:50] <bread> :O
#154 [00:50] * bread dlees
#154 [00:50] <bread> er
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#159 [01:15] <fizyplankton> so i know mc.net says that all linux users should use the sun java doohickey. does anyone know if the openjdk whatchamacallit works better on ubuntu 10.04?
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#164 [01:32] <aqqa> Hello
#165 [01:32] <aqqa> I need some help.
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#168 [01:37] <Icystorm> Hello.
#169 [01:38] <Icystorm> Is there any kind of indestructible tool?
#170 [01:38] <AG_Scott> No.
#171 [01:38] <Solensean> Your hands!
#172 [01:38] <AG_Scott> There are mods/plugins to make it indestructible.
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#175 [01:39] <aqqqa> Hello
#176 [01:39] <Vector> hi
#177 [01:39] <aqqqa> I need some help with Minecraft.
#178 [01:39] <Vector> Ask your question.
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#180 [01:39] <figaro> Hi guys.
#181 [01:39] <Vector> hello
#182 [01:39] <aqqqa> Im getting the black screen when loading, (more of a statement really)
#183 [01:40] <Vector> Start the launcher up again, go to the "Options" button, and then click the "Force Update" button, hit ok, and then login
#184 [01:40] <figaro> I just updated to version 1.5 now. My old world files aren't being recognized. Is this normal, or should I use some old savegame backups.
#185 [01:40] <Vector> so none of your worlds are coming up on the world list at all?
#186 [01:41] <figaro> Nope.
#187 [01:41] <figaro> should i try older world files?
#188 [01:41] <Vector> well
#189 [01:41] <Vector> do you have any others then?
#190 [01:41] <figaro> maybe. h/o, I may have just found the problem
#191 [01:42] <aqqa> No Force update doesnt work
#192 [01:42] <Vector> uh
#193 [01:42] <figaro> Lol, sorry, it seems I was restoring my backed-up saves to the wrong place.
#194 [01:42] <Vector> wow
#195 [01:42] <figaro> Thanks, and sorry for the trouble.
#196 [01:43] <aqqa> I can actually click into the black area and I hear clicks of buttons.
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#198 [01:43] <Vector> oh
#199 [01:43] <Vector> wow
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#201 [01:44] <Vector> i would re-install java at this point
#202 [01:44] <aqqa> ?
#203 [01:44] <aqqa> I already did.
#204 [01:44] <aqqa> twice
#205 [01:44] <aqqa> any version I should try ?
#206 [01:44] <Vector> oh
#207 [01:44] <Vector> well
#208 [01:44] <Vector> preferably the latest, lol
#209 [01:44] <Vector> so you click in the location of a button, or just click anywhere, and hear a button click?
#210 [01:45] <aqqa> I dont know where the buttons are as Ive never played the before.
#211 [01:45] <Vector> o h
#212 [01:45] <Vector> oh
#213 [01:45] <Vector> ok
#214 [01:45] <Vector> well then
#215 [01:45] <Vector> what kind of graphics do you have?
#216 [01:46] <aqqa> 965 intel mobile
#217 [01:46] <Vector> ok
#218 [01:46] <Vector> let's see
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#220 [01:46] <Vector> that's what usually happens if i try installing a mod the wrong way
#221 [01:47] <aqqa> ive ran the official intel driver update util, they are up to date
#222 [01:47] <Vector> ok
#223 [01:48] <Vector> well it seems like a java issue to me at this point
#224 [01:49] <Vector> you bought the game recently?
#225 [01:49] <aqqa> yes
#226 [01:49] <aqqa> tonight
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#228 [01:52] <pico> always my wolves get "lost" after traveling with minecarts, then i found them sometimes sitting somewhere on the map days after i lost them, is there a trick to bring them all to my position?
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#230 [01:55] <Icystorm> If I make a portal to the netherworld, does it move me to a complete new map?
#231 [01:55] <Vector> pico
#232 [01:56] <Vector> it's most likely a different map, just it's small
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#234 [02:02] <pico> ?
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#239 [02:21] <Vector> Are you related to the Pico on elfenliedfansite?
#240 [02:21] <Vector> lol
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#242 [02:29] <fizyplankton> so i know mc.net says that all linux users should use the sun java doohickey. does anyone know if the openjdk whatchamacallit works better on ubuntu 10.04?
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#244 [02:29] <_303> I'm just using the latest java 7 snapshot
#245 [02:30] <fizyplankton> not trying to sound like robert dnero, but...are you talking to me?
#246 [02:30] <AG_Scott> You should probably really use Sun Java.
#247 [02:30] <AG_Scott> Don't expect support anywhere if you don't.
#248 [02:31] <fizyplankton> well does anyone know why beta frequantly crashes on me? (no mods whatsoever)
#249 [02:31] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :[
#250 [02:32] <Icystorm> Does glass stop lava?
#251 [02:33] <fizyplankton> vox, if you dont want a red hot piece of rebar jammed into the valve connecting the 3rd and 4th chambers of your heart, i suggest you shut the hell up
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#258 [02:56] <XStaticfury> Getting Connection Refused: Cennect when i try to log in to a multi server.. any ideas guys ?
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#261 [03:03] <XStaticfury> any1 here ?
#262 [03:04] <pico> [08:21:11] <Vector> Are you related to the Pico on elfenliedfansite? <-- wtf? sounds like gaystuff :E
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#266 [03:11] <Paddx> good morning
#267 [03:11] <Icystorm> Morning
#268 [03:12] <Paddx> I have a little problem with the minecraft launcher cince i've reinstalled Windows 7 x64 last thursday
#269 [03:12] <Paddx> *since
#270 [03:13] <Paddx> The problem is ,when i start the Minecraft launcher, i can see the whole release notes normally, but the login bar under the release notes is completely black except for the login boxes and the buttons. When I try to log in with my login data, it says that it cant connect to minecraft.net. Also the browser Version doesn't work too on my laptop.
#271 [03:14] <XStaticfury> Good morning every1 im having a bit of a problem Getting Connection Refused: Cennect when i try to log in to a multi server.. any ideas guys ? Ive searched the forums for some awnsers and all i can find is that the server i messed up ?
#272 [03:15] <relsqui> XStaticfury: do you know that the server isn't messed up?
#273 [03:15] <relsqui> Paddx: no idea about that one, sorry. but if you wait around someone else might.
#274 [03:16] <XStaticfury> i cant tell.. it is a US based server. and i dunno if the ppl i talked to are online
#275 [03:16] <relsqui> what's the address/ip?
#276 [03:16] <XStaticfury> erhm cant really give that out its private
#277 [03:16] <Paddx> Okay..i will wait, and ive send notch an email as well
#278 [03:17] <XStaticfury> well i applied to the server from the forums and got accepted so
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#280 [03:18] <XStaticfury> @relsqui ive sent a chat notice
#281 [03:18] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#282 [03:18] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#283 [03:18] <gPortal2002> Dammit
#284 [03:18] <gPortal2002> So it DOES send it twice
#285 [03:19] <relsqui> XStaticfury: aubot thinks it's down
#286 [03:19] <XStaticfury> if u accept the chat i can give u the IP and u can test ?
#287 [03:19] <Razorflame> XStatocfury: /msg user message
#288 [03:20] <XStaticfury> thx ;)
#289 [03:20] <Razorflame> np
#290 [03:20] <Paddx> hmm ._.
#291 [03:20] <relsqui> ... I received your notice
#292 [03:20] <relsqui> and tested it already
#293 [03:21] <relsqui> also, you can pm aubot and do it yourself
#294 [03:21] <relsqui> with !check <ip>
#295 [03:21] <XStaticfury> aaa kewl
#296 [03:21] <XStaticfury> !check 2
#297 [03:23] <XStaticfury> ye i see server is down
#298 [03:23] <XStaticfury> gonna wait and see if it comes up at some point
#299 [03:23] <gPortal2002> 2? Lol
#300 [03:23] <XStaticfury> forgit /msg so
#301 [03:23] <XStaticfury> forgot*
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#303 [03:24] <ScribbleJR> Are the Minecraft SMP servers down?
#304 [03:25] <ScribbleJR> or is it just me?
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#306 [03:25] <SinZ> because bukkit is still updating
#307 [03:29] <ScribbleJR> okey so couple days til thats done?
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#311 [03:37] <Solensean> Has anyone encountered a problem with achievements while playing on a local smp server?
#312 [03:37] <Thunder1> i have some problems after updating minecraft
#313 [03:38] <_303> Solensean: I heard you need to get the achievements first on ssp to get them on smp too
#314 [03:38] <Solensean> _303, yeah, it worked when I tried to unlock the first one on ssp, then I could unlock the following ones in smp
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#316 [03:39] <Solensean> Just wondering if it was just me :)
#317 [03:39] <_303> known bug as per the wiki changelog
#318 [03:41] <Solensean> alright.
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#326 [04:10] <Turdfaice> hey
#327 [04:10] <Turdfaice> Is Minecraft Servers down?
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#329 [04:15] <lemon-rev> no, new update
#330 [04:15] <lemon-rev> grab your self the update or the server update as well
#331 [04:15] <lemon-rev> depends on what your doing
#332 [04:15] <lemon-rev> :)
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#334 [04:18] <Icystorm> Wow.
#335 [04:19] <Icystorm> The nether looks like hell
#336 [04:22] <lemon-rev> i've havent been down tere for a while now
#337 [04:22] <lemon-rev> :)
#338 [04:23] <lemon-rev> and yes thats what its ment to look like :)
#339 [04:28] <Icystorm> Well was cool crossing the portal with Warcraft II theme
#340 [04:28] <Icystorm> =)
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#343 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> ??+ demo|Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survivial, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.;;The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
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#345 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#346 [04:38] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survivial, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#347 [04:38] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#348 [04:38] <Apoca> Hello
#349 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#350 [04:38] <Apoca> I'm having a bit of a problem when trying to set up a server so that a friend and I can play together
#351 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> What kind of problem?
#352 [04:39] <Apoca> Well, first it was my friend getting massive network lag (I got no lag at all. Internet or computer). So I decided to look around on ways to reduce it. I found out that creating a batch file that includes certain commands could help reduce the lag. So I tried creating the batch file.
#353 [04:39] <Apoca> er, .bat
#354 [04:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#354 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> This wasn't on 1.4, right?
#355 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> 1.4 had tons of network lag.
#356 [04:40] <Apoca> er, im not sure
#357 [04:40] <Apoca> Hmmm
#358 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> 1.5, the latest, was just released yesterday
#359 [04:40] <Apoca> oh
#360 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Fixed quite a bit of network lag, among other bugs
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#362 [04:41] <Apoca> That may be it, then
#363 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> You wouldn't be the first person to report it. It first appeared in 1.3, and carried over to 1.4
#364 [04:42] <Apoca> Ok. So having 1.5 should make it so we do not need the .bat to reduce lag on his end?
#365 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> Try it out
#366 [04:43] <Apoca> Will do
#367 [04:43] <Apoca> Thanks for the inf
#368 [04:43] <Apoca> info*
#369 [04:47] <Thunder1> i have only a minecraft.exe file
#370 [04:47] <Thunder1> how to use mods?
#371 [04:48] <ksk> start it, goto options
#372 [04:48] <_303> ?? mods
#373 [04:48] <ksk> open mod folder
#374 [04:48] <VoxelHead> mods: his channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#375 [04:48] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#376 [04:48] <_303> read the modinstall link, it tells you where to find your jar
#377 [04:48] <_303> ksk: nope, that won't work for mods
#378 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I need to edit that to include risucraft..
#379 [04:49] <ksk> ah, mods != skins, kk..
#380 [04:49] <Thunder1> too confusing to me
#381 [04:49] <Sazandora> His channel?
#382 [04:49] <Thunder1> let me try
#383 [04:55] <Thunder1> now minecraft.jar does not work :(
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#385 [04:55] <Craven> hy
#386 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> You're not supposed to launch minecraft through the minecraft.jar file found in /.minecraft/bin/
#387 [04:55] <_303> you /can/
#388 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> You use minecraft.exe or minecraft.jar, the launcher downloaded at minecraft.net
#389 [04:56] * GreyVulpine nods, "For many, they get a little confused"
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#390 [04:59] <Thunder1> i used till now the .exe file
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#392 [05:00] <_303> Craven: so ask in the channel
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#394 [05:02] <Thunder1> i am so lost with this mod stuff
#395 [05:03] <Apoca> ok
#396 [05:03] <Apoca> we're both updated
#397 [05:03] <Apoca> but still getting lag
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#399 [05:04] <Thunder1> how can i connect the minecraft.exe to the .jar in the same folder?
#400 [05:05] <Apoca> for a bat file?
#401 [05:05] <Apoca> er, nevermind :D
#402 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Thunder, you don't, it does that for you, as long as you keep the minecraft.jar in the %appdata%/.minecraft/bin folder
#403 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> The .exe expects the minecraft.jar file to be there, when you launch it
#404 [05:06] <Apoca> Anyways, when I try to run my start.bat, it tells me that the JVM in the \bin\server\jvm.dll cannot be found. This is because there is no \server folder in my \bin folder. anyone know why?
#405 [05:06] <Thunder1> °_°
#406 [05:06] <Thunder1> they are in the same folder
#407 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> To install a mod, you'll need an compression program, like winrar or 7-zip to open up the minecraft.jar file
#408 [05:06] <Thunder1> e:\games\minecraft
#409 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> You'll then follow the directions of the mod
#410 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> You don't move it
#411 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> That breaks it
#412 [05:06] <Thunder1> there are .exe and .jar
#413 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> You keep the minecraft.jar file in the same place, %appdata%/.minecraft/bin
#414 [05:07] <Thunder1> i put mod stuff with winrar into the jar file
#415 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Again, if you move the minecraft.jar file out of %appdata%/.minecraft/bin you break it
#416 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> It expects that file to be in that place
#417 [05:07] <Thunder1> so i have to create a folder called .minecraft
#418 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> No.
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#420 [05:07] <Thunder1> i make a screen wait
#421 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> The .minecraft folder is already in %appdata%/.minecraft/bin
#422 [05:08] <_303_> rather, appdata/.minecraft is the .minecraft folder
#423 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> er, right
#424 [05:08] <Thunder1> AAAAHHHH
#425 [05:08] <Thunder1> i understand
#426 [05:09] <Thunder1> wait a sec i try
#427 [05:09] <Apoca> Would the lag caused be from my internet connection? or because the server isn't taking up enough resource to run right? e_e
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#429 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Apoca - It could be either... who else is connecting?
#430 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Your friend, is he in the same house, or elsewhere?
#431 [05:09] <Apoca> Just one guy, a friend
#432 [05:10] <Apoca> Elsewhere
#433 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Could you do a speedtest.net
#434 [05:10] <Apoca> I live in Kansas, he in Wishington
#435 [05:10] <Apoca> that's what I'm doing right now
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#437 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Also, system specs for the server would help
#438 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> CPU/RAM, how is it hooked up network wise, any antivirus/security software, whatever
#439 [05:11] <Thunder1> now i have a black screen °_°
#440 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Delete the /.minecraft/bin folder, relaunch minecraft.exe to have it download fresh files, and start over
#441 [05:12] <Apoca> I'm running it on the same comp that I'm playing on. My CPU is a Phenom II x4 955, I have 8GB of RAM
#442 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> Follow the directions of the mod, exactly as written.
#443 [05:12] <Thunder1> k
#444 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Apoca - Seems like a perfectly good system.
#445 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> Apoca - As a test, could you possibly turn off monsters in server.properties and relaunch the server?
#446 [05:16] <Thunder1> mh maybe the mod version does not fit
#447 [05:16] <Thunder1> always black screen
#448 [05:16] <_303_> be aware hardly any mods are updated
#449 [05:16] <_303_> and almost every minecraft update breaks all mods
#450 [05:16] <Apoca> I think I figured out the problem
#451 [05:16] <Apoca> I need to contact my ISP about why I'm not even getting a quarter of the upload speed I'm paying for =|
#452 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Oh yikes
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#454 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, requires about 100-150Kb/sec per person, on average.
#455 [05:17] <_303_> wow
#456 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> I've seen it spike as high as 180-200 on initial chunk load
#457 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> but idle as low as 10-20 if the player doesn't do anything
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#459 [05:19] * GreyVulpine rechecks those stats
#459 [05:20] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'm still getting about 100kB/sec on initial load
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#463 [05:25] <Apoca> so if he has a max speed of 200 Kb/s could that cause problems from his end connecting to a minecraft server?
#464 [05:25] <Apoca> or would it still be something on my end?
#465 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> What's your upload like?
#466 [05:26] <Apoca> Right now my upload is .27 kb/s, but it should be 5mb/s
#467 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Gah
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#469 [05:26] <Apoca> er
#470 [05:26] <Apoca> .27 mb
#471 [05:26] <Apoca> is what I meant
#472 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> .27 megabits per sec?
#473 [05:26] <Apoca> yes
#474 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Ouch
#475 [05:27] <Apoca> is what it's at right now, but it should be 5 :S
#476 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that would cause minecraft to lag
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#479 [05:27] <Apoca> I ran an Ace of Spades server day before yesterday with 30 people and it didn't lag for anyone :S
#480 [05:27] <Apoca> even the couple people that were in the UK
#481 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft isn't Ace of Spades..
#482 [05:27] <Apoca> I suppose
#483 [05:28] <Apoca> But wouldn't .27 mb/s be a problem even for that? e_e
#484 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> With ~35 kilobytes/sec upload, you won't be able to run a minecraft server
#485 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Not until you straighten it out with your ISP
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#492 [05:53] <mang0> Guys, any ideas why on any server I have an insane amount of chat lag?
#493 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> With 1.5 still?
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#497 [06:02] <mang0> GreyVulpine what? yes I'm using 1.5...
#498 [06:02] <Apoca> Don't guess there's any way to increase the duration of day time and decrease that of night? e_e
#499 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Apoca - Not without a mod
#500 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> mang0 - Hmm, I thought 1.5 fixed that
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#505 [06:15] <Saintx> Is asking for a server in minecraft advertising?
#506 [06:16] <Saintx> A server to join that is.
#507 [06:16] <mang0> GreyVulpine maybe one of my mods is doing something....
#508 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#509 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/server
#510 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> er
#511 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#512 [06:16] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#513 [06:16] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#514 [06:16] <Saintx> oh thanks
#515 [06:16] <Saintx> :D
#516 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> mang0 - I don't know.
#517 [06:18] <Saintx> k also how would I join a server xD...
#518 [06:18] <Saintx> I just kinda joined so yea
#519 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Just use the ip given, when you click on the multiplayer button in the client
#520 [06:19] <Saintx> So I tried joining this place buxville.net.
#521 [06:19] <Saintx> And this thing popped up
#522 [06:19] <Saintx> I'll post it
#523 [06:19] <mang0> buxville.net doesnt look like an ip...
#524 [06:19] <Saintx> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
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#527 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> 1.5 just released, and many servers are running mods. Those mods are third-party developed, so they are likely not updated yet
#528 [06:21] <Saintx> Oh wonderful.
#529 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Connection reset by peer, means the server is down, or can't be reached right now
#530 [06:21] <Apoca> How do you make a glass block?
#531 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Apoca - Sand + furnace
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#533 [06:22] <Apoca> ah, thank you
#534 [06:22] <Saintx> Is requesting a 1.5 server advertising?
#535 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> No, advertising is somebody giving out their server's address, unsolicited.
#536 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> If you ask for one, it's not advertising
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#538 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> As for 1.5 servers, I don't know... you may need to hit up the forums.
#539 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Many, many public servers rely on third-party plugins to help server owners with setting up advanced permissions and anti-griefing..
#540 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, it takes time for those modders to update when MC updates
#541 [06:25] <Saintx> >.<
#542 [06:25] <Saintx> So just barely downloading minecraft did me no good.
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#544 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Sec..
#545 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> Looks like smp.shadow-craft.net updated to 1.5
#546 [06:29] <ArmEagle> heh, in leaky I can 'Like' a bug .. I DON'T like it! :)
#547 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> ...
#548 [06:31] <ArmEagle> whoops wrong channel, sorry
#549 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> Heh
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#552 [06:33] <Daniel> Hi, does anyone know how to fix "Connection Lost - Internal exception: java.io.I0Exception: Bad packet id 108"?
#553 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Daniel - Running a server?
#554 [06:33] <Daniel> Yeah, tried to connect to my other desktop.
#555 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Did you update the server? Running any mods?
#556 [06:33] <Saintx> Bah, GreyVulpine. Can I download mods for 1.5?
#557 [06:34] <Saintx> And join a server
#558 [06:34] <Daniel> No mods and it's up to date.
#559 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Saintx - Depends on the mod..
#560 [06:34] <Daniel> This is what the server log says
#561 [06:34] <Daniel> Disconnecting /192.168.1.65:52319: Took too long to log in
#562 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Daniel - No mods for either the client or the server? Then check you firewall/security software
#563 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> your*
#564 [06:36] <Daniel> Gah, turning F-Secure off is a pain in the ass >.<
#565 [06:40] <Daniel> Can a firewall in the router block it?
#566 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Not if you're connecting locally.
#567 [06:42] <Daniel> Gah
#568 [06:42] <Daniel> got my AVG antivirus down on my desktop, and i killed F-Secure on my laptop. But it still gets the same error >.<
#569 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Daniel - Are you sure you're running the latest 1.5 server, unmodded in any way?
#570 [06:43] <Daniel> Yes
#571 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> I only ask because it's a frequent problem for people who ran older modded bukkit server versions.
#572 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Also, many software firewalls can cause this issue as well
#573 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> They block vital packets needed by the client to connect to the server
#574 [06:46] <Daniel> I got F-secure, AVG and all firewalls closed down. But I cant connect with my lappy, it gives the package 108 error. My desktop can't connect to it's own server and it says "End of stream".
#575 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> What brand of NIC is the server running?
#576 [06:46] <Daniel> What do you mean?
#577 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Do you know the model of network card the server is running?
#578 [06:47] <luckz> Saintx: I doubt that mods have been updated for 1.5 yet
#579 [06:47] <Daniel> It's quite old. The funny thing is that i can't connect to any servers at all.
#580 [06:48] <Daniel> My friends made some, and I was the only one who couldnt join
#581 [06:48] <Saintx> I found a server that I could join.
#582 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Daniel - You might want to look into updating the NIC's drivers, see if that helps
#583 [06:49] <Daniel> How do I see the brand of my NIC?
#584 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#585 [06:49] <Daniel> I'll be able to find the driver on my laptop, but my desktop is going to be hard. My desky got XP
#586 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Start -> control panel -> system -> device manager -> network adapter
#587 [06:53] <Daniel> Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
#588 [06:53] <Daniel> I'm on realtek's website
#589 [06:53] <Daniel> Going to see if they got updates for such an old NIC
#590 [06:53] <pico> mhh is it just me or is the monsterspawn increased? we got on our mobfarm way more gunpower than before patch and less spidersilk :E
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#592 [06:54] <lemon-rev> ha
#593 [06:54] <lemon-rev> anyone getting a trouble with ladders
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#595 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Ladders were changed
#596 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> You can't have gaps in them anymore
#597 [06:54] <lemon-rev> ?
#598 [06:54] <lemon-rev> well it appears i can climb still with glaps but not right to the top anymore
#599 [06:55] <lemon-rev> but thanks
#600 [06:55] <Icystorm> Is it possible to generate a world composed by sky islands?
#601 [06:55] <Icystorm> I.e. islands separed by air
#602 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Not natively, no
#603 [06:57] <_303> biosphere mod: http://i.imgur.com/2yZXw.png
#604 [06:57] <Icystorm> Hmm, no, not like this. Just pieces of land floating in mid air and if you fall down you just have water
#605 [06:58] <_303> like the skylands map?
#606 [06:58] <Icystorm> Skylands?
#607 [06:58] <_303> look it up
#608 [06:59] <Icystorm> Hmm, yeah
#609 [07:00] <pico> woah i love this mod oO
#610 [07:00] <pico> _303: link to the mod?
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#612 [07:01] <_303> pico: which?
#613 [07:01] <pico> [12:57:10] <_303> biosphere mod: http://i.imgur.com/2yZXw.png
#614 [07:01] <_303> not officially released. also not updated for 1.4_01
#615 [07:01] <_303> errrr
#616 [07:01] <_303> not updated for 1.5
#617 [07:01] <pico> ur own mod?
#618 [07:01] <_303> not mine, Risugami's
#619 [07:01] <pico> and i can just follow the thread until its updated ;)
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#622 [07:08] <Daniel> Gosh, I just wasted money on a game that refuses to work. How great <.<
#623 [07:09] <pico> whats ur problem Daniel?
#624 [07:11] <Daniel> "Lost connection - End of stream" on my desktop, and "Internal exception: java.oi.I0Exception: Bad packet id 108" on my laptop
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#626 [07:11] <Daniel> Tried with turning firewall and antivirus off, updating netwrok drivers etc
#627 [07:11] <pico> on smp?
#628 [07:11] <Daniel> Yeah
#629 [07:11] <pico> server available for other players?
#630 [07:13] <pico> do you instant disconnect or can you connect and then it happens?
#631 [07:14] <pico> tried to ip:port instead of only connecting to ip?
#632 [07:14] <Daniel> Yes and yes
#633 [07:14] <pico> last one?
#634 [07:16] <pico> if u say desktop and laptop, it sounds like u got a router at home, did u forwarded the port?
#635 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to port forward if it's all internal
#636 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding usually only applies to outside connections
#637 [07:17] <pico> if its smp and other players can connect, i think its outside :P
#638 [07:17] <m0nk> you need to update the server
#639 [07:18] <m0nk> i got that error message with others that hadn't updated
#640 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> m0nk - I already told Daniel that, he's got the latest server files
#641 [07:18] <m0nk> ah
#642 [07:18] <Daniel> Now my twin tried to connect, it said "End of stream" when he tried to connect to my desktop, and same when he tried to connect to the laptop. My brother is in the same network as me.
#643 [07:18] <m0nk> end of stream there you go
#644 [07:18] <pico> ah internal servers? :x
#645 [07:20] <m0nk> [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#646 [07:20] <m0nk> what does it mean?
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#648 [07:21] <dutchuss2016> am i able too talk in this room
#649 [07:21] <dutchuss2016> the esperner #minecraft requires regester which leads me too believe its a fake room
#650 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> IT isn't
#651 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#652 [07:22] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#653 [07:22] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#654 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> m0nk - If you only get that message a few times, it's nothing to be concerned about. If you get spammed with it, your server may not be able to handle minecraft
#655 [07:22] <dutchuss2016> i did register 6 hours ago and still have not recieved a email
#656 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> Check your spam folder if you have one dutchuss2016
#657 [07:24] <dutchuss2016> but thats not what i need assistance with i need assistance with the reason my beta 1.5 (and no one elses for that matter ) can get on a single minecraft server did notch screw something up
#658 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Server owners have to manually update
#659 [07:24] <dutchuss2016> spam folders empty i havent recieved a single email for 7 hours
#660 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> It's not notch's fault, it's the server owner's
#661 [07:24] <dutchuss2016> my server is up too date ( craftbukkit 684)
#662 [07:24] <Solensean> GreyVulpine, about that server error message, might allocating more RAM help?
#663 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> craftbukkit hasn't been updated for 1.5, last I heard
#664 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> Solensean - without knowing more about your system's specs, I couldn't tell you
#665 [07:25] <dutchuss2016> sad face fail facepalm
#666 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> dutchuss2016 - That's what you get for running mods :)
#667 [07:26] <dutchuss2016> i tried using the regular minecraft server (from minecraft.net ) and still no one could connect
#668 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> The regular minecraft server is updated for 1.5
#669 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> You sure you were running it right?
#670 [07:26] <dutchuss2016> i know i tried using it and it wont let any one connect (End Of STream)
#671 [07:27] <Daniel> I dont know if this is good or not, but I got a new error. "Bad Login"
#672 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> Daniel - That's.. different.
#673 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> Daniel - Could you try...
#674 [07:27] <dutchuss2016> but i can connect too the default minecraft server via Localhost as the ip my external ip kicks even me off it
#675 [07:27] <GreyVulpine> ??> Daniel win/reinst
#676 [07:27] <VoxelHead> Daniel: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#677 [07:27] <VoxelHead> Daniel: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#678 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> dutchuss2016 - What do you mean it kicks you off?
#679 [07:28] <dutchuss2016> if i use my external ip i get the same end of stream message as every one else
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#681 [07:30] <dutchuss2016> and on my server i have a spider trying too eat me for lunch
#682 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> dutchuss2016 - and you're absolutely sure you're running the latest 1.5 vanilla server
#683 [07:30] <dutchuss2016> yes
#684 [07:30] <dutchuss2016> i just downloaded it about 15 mins ago
#685 [07:31] <dutchuss2016> from the minecraft server websight
#686 [07:31] <dutchuss2016> no plugins or anything on it fresh map on it
#687 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, looks like something new for 1.5.
#688 [07:33] <dutchuss2016> OMG ITS RAINIGN ON MY SERVER SHWEET LOLZ
#689 [07:35] <dutchuss2016> tht looks epic
#690 [07:35] <Daniel> it's working now, thank you guys so much! <3
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#692 [07:36] <Geofff> has anyone else noticed tha tas of 1.5 clocks dont work? in SMP at least
#693 [07:37] <dutchuss2016> 1.5 clocks as in redstone clocks?
#694 [07:39] <dutchuss2016> does any one know if the rain affects waterblocks
#695 [07:39] <dutchuss2016> will the rain essentually "flood" the map
#696 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> Don't know.. Notch did say rain was supposed to fill up small holes
#697 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> Don't know if that was implemented
#698 [07:40] <dutchuss2016> ima test that
#699 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/55981125994156032 - "I'll try making it fill small holes with water, but it might be annoying.. brb"
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#701 [07:43] <dutchuss2016> the rain just looks so epic
#702 [07:43] <dutchuss2016> skelitons can live outside in the daylight if its raining o snap
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#706 [08:00] <wheybags> is there a way to make it stop raining? or disactivate it altogether?
#707 [08:00] <wheybags> on mp server
#708 [08:00] <wheybags> it makes my laptop lag sometimes ;_;
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#711 [08:14] <Ckm2> heyg usy su1m please tell em how to get to the .bin folder?
#712 [08:15] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#713 [08:16] <Ckm2> 7
#714 [08:16] <Ckm2> windows 7
#715 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#716 [08:16] <Ckm2> thankyou
#717 [08:17] <Ckm2> coudlnt remember that
#718 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> the bin folder will be in the .minecraft folder
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#726 [08:45] <Mash> Btw
#727 [08:45] <Mash> In case anyone missed it.
#728 [08:45] <Mash> 1.5_01 just came out like 5 mins ago.
#729 [08:45] <Mash> The server, anyway.
#730 [08:46] <Mash> GreyVulpine, ^.
#731 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks
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#739 [09:27] <McBag> hi
#740 [09:27] <McBag> If I want to create or destroy a block I get this error-message
#741 [09:27] <McBag> java.lang.NullPointerExceptionat ii.a(SourceFile:7?at nf.a(SourceFile:89)at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.a(SourceFile:1019)at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.j(SourceFile:1196)at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:694)at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)Stopping!
#742 [09:27] <McBag> what should I do?
#743 [09:28] <_303> SMP?
#744 [09:28] <McBag> what is SMP?
#745 [09:28] <_303> if so apparently known bug maybe fixed in server _02: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#746 [09:28] <_303> multiplayer
#747 [09:28] <McBag> yes
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#749 [09:30] <mooks42> hi all!
#750 [09:31] <mooks42> does somebody know how to eraze the serverbug: failed to handle packet: java.lang.nullpointerexception?
#751 [09:31] <mooks42> i allready deleted the user.dat but with no result...
#752 [09:33] <luckz> are you using 1.5_02?
#753 [09:33] <luckz> (the server version)
#754 [09:33] <luckz> if not, download that.
#755 [09:33] <luckz> (just redownload the server)
#756 [09:34] <mooks42> wow that was a fast update from 5_01 to 5_02 i'll try it thx!
#757 [09:36] <mooks42> thx that was the problem!
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#760 [09:44] <mooks42> cya!
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#767 [10:02] <GitesMajonez> hey guys, anybodey knows about fixes in beta 1.5_01?
#768 [10:06] <_303> check the wiki
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#770 [10:07] <GitesMajonez> wiki isn't updated as recently
#771 [10:07] <GitesMajonez> well, i noticed that bug whit detector rail is fixed
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#773 [10:09] <luckz> notch's twitter mentioned some other ones
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#775 [10:12] <Apoca> Hello
#776 [10:13] <Apoca> What exaclty is the "world seed" that the game ask you to give when you generate a new world?
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#780 [10:26] <GitesMajonez> seed is a thing that save your renedred map for all people, for ex. my seed is "Glacier". if you'll create world whit seed Glacier it would be exacly same as mine
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#782 [10:27] <Johannes13> how does the archievment interface work? any way to scroll?
#783 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Hold down your left mouse button?
#784 [10:28] <GitesMajonez> click, hold and drag
#785 [10:28] <Johannes13> ok.. stupid
#786 [10:28] <Johannes13> I didn't get it...
#787 [10:28] <Johannes13> anyway, tanks
#788 [10:28] <Johannes13> +h
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#793 [10:48] <Mash> GreyVulpine, I don't suppose you know what the new OpenGL "advancedness" is all about?
#794 [10:49] <bokaholic> I was sort of curious myself.
#795 [10:50] <_303> occlusion culling for one
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#800 [11:09] <ACsiD> someone getting freezing game since last update ?
#801 [11:09] <Tyrce> Very poor frame rate
#802 [11:09] <Tyrce> No crahses
#803 [11:10] <Tyrce> MC Mac never crashes
#804 [11:10] * GreyVulpine hehs
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#807 [11:11] <Guest69971> hey guys
#808 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#809 [11:12] <Guest69971> maybe someone can help me ? i still get a blackscreen after i push "dont update" = /
#810 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Why don't you want to update?
#811 [11:13] <Guest69971> because i play on a server which a friend is hosting and he still didnt update the server jet if i update my minecraft
#812 [11:13] <Guest69971> i cant connect anymore
#813 [11:13] <Tyrce> Push update then
#814 [11:14] <Guest69971> so i cant connect to the serv anymore
#815 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> Okay, well, the three main reasons why you get a blackscreen update are, legacy video drivers in need of update, out-of-date java, or out-of-date lwjgl.
#816 [11:15] <luckz> and did it work before? :P
#817 [11:16] <Guest69971> yea it did but since minecraft tryd to update, i just shows a black screen = (
#818 [11:16] <Guest69971> i try atm to reinstall java
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#820 [11:16] <Guest69971> my video drivers are still up to date
#821 [11:17] <Whipser> Hello everyone, how are you today?
#822 [11:17] <Guest69971> but i dont know how " up to date" the lwjgl.jar is ... ah i'm fine and you ? = )
#823 [11:17] <Whipser> Alittle confused but good, thank you :)
#824 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> If you haven't updated to 1.5, you're still using 2.4.2, the version minecraft packages with
#825 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> The latest is 2.7.1
#826 [11:18] <Tyrce> bukkit servers are down and many others are
#827 [11:18] <Tyrce> bukkit hasnt updated to 1.5 yet
#828 [11:18] <Tyrce> DW
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#830 [11:20] <Whipser> O.o
#831 [11:21] <Guest69971> still didnt update atm ... and do i need that new lwjgl.jar to play with the old patch ?
#832 [11:21] <Whipser> Can anyone help me, I'm trying to get my minecraft server thing up and running so i can play with a friend of mine, all the guides i have red are very confuseing.
#833 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Guest69971 - It could help... otherwise, your minecraft files may be corrupt in some way
#834 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> If you're using any soft of mods, it does carry some risk that it'll trigger a black screen if it's not installed properly
#835 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> sort*
#836 [11:24] <Guest69971> well i dont know if its crashed or not because it still worked, after i saw mc want to update i backup my .minecraft folder and then update so i still dont know but what to do if its crashed ? can i get somehow the "old" version ? or do i have to wait till that serv is updated to 1.5
#837 [11:24] <Guest69971> ?
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#839 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Unless you had the sense of mind to backup your files beforehand (or did some googling for a backup), we don't offer support here for previous versions, and we frown on people who host out-of-date versions for others.
#840 [11:27] <_303> GreyVulpine: what's the stance on things like McNostalgia? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=113094 you need to have bought the game anyway to downgrade, and it doesn't distribute notchcode
#841 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> I'm still on the fence about that.
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#843 [11:28] <Apoca> Whisper
#844 [11:28] <JustHayden> i am in need of assistence
#845 [11:28] <Apoca> What OS are you using?
#846 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> The stance that I do take though, is, if I don't see it in the channel, I can't take any action on it.
#847 [11:28] <JustHayden> windows
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#849 [11:29] <JustHayden> Connection lost. Internal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset. thats the error im getting
#850 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> I'm not trying to be an ass about it, and if Notch didn't write up the "Do not distribute" clause in the ToS, I'd be hosting those versions myself
#851 [11:30] <Whipser> Can anyone direct me to a website that will allow me to run a minecraft server just for me and my friend?
#852 [11:31] <JustHayden> does anyone know how to fix that error message im getting?
#853 [11:31] <xolotl> Whipser: 1) Download minecraft_server.jar. 2) run the command listed on the download page. 3) set up port forwarding. 4) Hand out your IP. 5) Minecraft!
#854 [11:31] <xolotl> Whipser: (optionally add folks to white-list.txt if you want)
#855 [11:31] <Whipser> Okay the Port forwarding is where i get scatter brained at.
#856 [11:32] <Apoca> portfoward.com
#857 [11:32] <xolotl> Whipser: (and the port you need to forward is TCP 25565)
#858 [11:32] <Apoca> find your routers model, then look up the guide for it
#859 [11:32] <xolotl> (assuming you're using the default)
#860 [11:32] <Apoca> there's a guide the explains how to portforward for minecraft servers (same as anything, usually)
#861 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> Whisper, if you're on a home connection, chances are, you're behind a router. You need to configure the router to let in a specific port that the server listens on, called prt forwarding.
#862 [11:32] <Whipser> Apoca, Where can i find this?
#863 [11:32] <JustHayden> so no one is interested in helping me out?
#864 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> JustHayden - With?
#865 [11:32] <Apoca> Find what? your routers model?
#866 [11:32] <JustHayden> Connection lost. Internal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset.\
#867 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> JustHayden - That error usually indicates the server you're trying to connect to, doesn't exist, is down, or you're entering the wrong ip
#868 [11:33] <Whipser> I know i have a router i know my router model, what i need to know is where to find the site that takes you thought port forwarding
#869 [11:33] <JustHayden> site says the server is online
#870 [11:33] <Apoca> portfoward.com
#871 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> JustHayden - What's the IP?
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#873 [11:33] <cbroughton> Vector:
#874 [11:33] <JustHayden> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1025&t=225868&p=3970285&sid=7ea6221f55928939352c6b512051c176
#875 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> !check diamonyia.minecraftgsp.com
#876 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, one sec
#877 [11:34] <cbroughton> JustHayden: Protip: Generally you want to strip out the &sid= part of PHPBB links, as that holds your login cookie. Lucky for you, they recently increased security on that.
#878 [11:35] <JustHayden> lol ty?
#879 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> JustHayden - I can't connect to that server either
#880 [11:35] <cbroughton> GreyVulpine: Does !check take ports ?
#881 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, if it's modded, it hasn't been updated
#882 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes cbroughton
#883 [11:35] <JustHayden> hmm guess somethigs wrong with the server then
#884 [11:35] <Whipser> @xolotl How do i launch it as the command on the download page?
#885 [11:35] <cbroughton> !check bon2d.servebeer.com 25565
#886 [11:35] <JustHayden> says its online
#887 [11:35] <cbroughton> !check bon2d.servebeer.com:25565
#888 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> cbroughton - You'll want to use bon2d.servebeer.com:25565
#889 [11:36] <cbroughton> Hmm
#890 [11:36] <cbroughton> LOOL!
#891 [11:36] <cbroughton> Java just lost connection to itself on the server :/
#892 [11:36] <cbroughton> The native socket engine isn't talking to the mc server anymore, it's all "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"
#893 [11:37] <cbroughton> Vector: You here bro?
#894 [11:37] <Guest69971> well i got a question why does mc blackscreen if you use the old "version" data ? the data out of the "bin" folder ?
#895 [11:37] <cbroughton> Guest69971: If you use older mods in a newer version it will do this. Also if you mod your jar and forget to delete META-INF this can sometimes happen.
#896 [11:37] <Guest69971> äh i mean the new :P and the old stuffs
#897 [11:38] <cbroughton> Guest69971: Pleae make sure you are using a clean Jar by deleting the entire .minecraft/bin folder and updating again.
#898 [11:38] * Kealper rawrs
#898 [11:38] <Kealper> so...
#899 [11:38] <cbroughton> Kealper: Do you need help?
#900 [11:38] <Kealper> 1.5_01....i've got wind of it crashing left and right
#901 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - 1.5_02's fixed that
#902 [11:39] <Kealper> cbroughton: i'm not here for getting help lol, i give it :P
#903 [11:39] <cbroughton> GreyVulpine: Why the hell can't Notch just do what he promised he would do? You know? Release Candidates, Nightlies.... etc
#904 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, Kealper needs all the "help" he can get.
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#906 [11:39] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: ahh, so updating my server is safe now? TW said 01 crashed if you sneezed without telling it first
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#908 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - So far, yes.
#909 [11:39] <cbroughton> >Notch do something he said he'd do. What an implication...
#910 [11:39] <Kealper> psh...the help i need i can't get from here >.>
#911 [11:40] <xolotl> Kealper: My server seems fine on _02
#912 [11:40] <xolotl> Anecdotal evidence ahoy!
#913 [11:40] <Kealper> \o/
#914 [11:40] <Mads1379> help
#915 [11:40] <xolotl> Though I haven't spent much time in there
#916 [11:40] <Mads1379> i need help
#917 [11:40] <Whipser> xolotl, how do i run the server.exe as the command listed on the download page
#918 [11:41] <xolotl> Whipser: I'd guess you just double-click it? I don't know; I'm on Linux so I use the .jar version, and run the java command listed there.
#919 [11:41] <cbroughton> Ohey: GreyVulpine Kealper Vector xolotl Have you considered GCJing minecraft-server ? It's much faster (export CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -march native -funroll-loops -fno-strict-aliasing)
#920 [11:41] <xolotl> cbroughton: I've never had problems with the speed on my server
#921 [11:41] <cbroughton> Like, it's MUCH faster.
#922 [11:41] <Apoca> Whisper are you using Windows?
#923 [11:41] <Kealper> same, my server never says the can't keep up warning
#924 [11:41] <Apoca> If you're using windows, you'll just want to double click the minecraft_server.exe/application
#925 [11:42] <cbroughton> xolotl: How about memory? I don't appreciate the 200mb overhead.
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#927 [11:42] <cbroughton> Kealper: I use as many resources during saves as you do during.. normal runtime :/
#928 [11:42] <Kealper> 200mb overhead is nothing on the machine my mc server runs on :P
#929 [11:42] <Mads1379> when i try to run minecraft it comes up with an error "Launch4j" The registry refers to an nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupted.
#930 [11:42] <xolotl> cbroughton: I've never worried about that either
#931 [11:42] <cbroughton> Kealper: If your server runs ~8 minecraft servers... you can see how it might be.
#932 [11:42] <xolotl> cbroughton: Mine just runs on a little Linux box downstairs with 1GB memory, and it's been fine for a handful of users
#933 [11:43] <cbroughton> Mads1379: Please consider installing JDK1.7.0 as it's faster, and re-installing java is what you have to do anyways.
#934 [11:43] <Mads1379> some one help me
#935 [11:43] <xolotl> I suspect that Linux may be better at dealing with Java than Windows is
#936 [11:43] <Kealper> yeah, if it was packed with servers i'd worry more about performance-per-process, but it only runs one, so i'm fine
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#938 [11:43] <_303> cbroughton: you mean gcj the java files or class files?
#939 [11:43] <cbroughton> xolotl: I use UNIX, not even Linux :)
#940 [11:43] <Kealper> "Since 1.5_01, the game will detect broken world saves and try to recover them." <-- \o/
#941 [11:43] <xolotl> cbroughton: Sweet, what flavor?
#942 [11:43] <cbroughton> _303: Decompile minecraft-server and gcj the whole bit.
#943 [11:43] * xolotl cut his teeth on Ultrix and OSF/1
#943 [11:43] <cbroughton> xolotl: FreeBSD, glad you even know what UNIX is.
#944 [11:43] <xolotl> And NetBSD
#945 [11:43] <xolotl> Funfun
#946 [11:44] <Kealper> cbroughton: almost everyone in this channel knows what Unix is >.>
#947 [11:44] <xolotl> I'm almost entirely Linux nowadays though
#948 [11:44] <Mads1379> when i try to install java again it says "java is already installed" "do you want to reinstall?" then i press "yes" then it comes with an error that says i only can when java already are installed
#949 [11:44] <Whipser> I'm confused on how to navigate the website xD
#950 [11:44] <cbroughton> Mads1379: Please uninstall all versions of java via Control Panel, then install the JDK1.7.0 for your operating system.
#951 [11:45] <Mads1379> i did uninstall all versions of java via Control Panel
#952 [11:45] <Mads1379> but ill try the JDK
#953 [11:45] <cbroughton> Mads1379: Anywhere it says Java Runtime Environment #u## or Java Development Kit #u##
#954 [11:45] <Mads1379> number one
#955 [11:46] <cbroughton> xolotl: The first problem in FreeBSD was that it doesn't even have Java.
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#957 [11:46] <biglouey> hi
#958 [11:46] <xolotl> cbroughton: Yeah, that would certainly pose some problems.
#959 [11:46] <cbroughton> xolotl: I should say, the first problem for Java is that FreeBSD doesn't like it. *
#960 [11:46] <biglouey> i´ve got a problem
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#963 [11:46] <biglouey> when i start my server and i go somewhere and build something
#964 [11:47] <cbroughton> GRAH I SIGINT'd my IRC :(
#965 [11:47] <biglouey> i get kicked and it says internal server error
#966 [11:47] <cbroughton> biglouey: Is your server running modifications ?
#967 [11:47] <biglouey> nope
#968 [11:47] <cbroughton> biglouey: Does your client JAR have any modifications ?
#969 [11:47] <Kealper> cbroughton: gg
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#971 [11:47] <biglouey> nope not anymore
#972 [11:47] <Mads1379> cbroughton can you give me a link for jdk1.7.0 ? i cant find any
#973 [11:47] <biglouey> i´ve renewed it
#974 [11:47] <Kealper> >any more
#975 [11:47] <cbroughton> Kealper: Seems kill -9 3821* is actually accepted as a wildcard.
#976 [11:48] <cbroughton> Mads1379: Moment...
#977 [11:48] <Mads1379> ok
#978 [11:48] <Kealper> lol
#979 [11:48] <biglouey> means i´ve deleted the .minecraft folder in appdata
#980 [11:48] <werwew19> hi i been trying to play classic on chrome and firefox but they dont load and whenever i hover over the java icon it disappears my java is up to date because it also works fine on IE and beta
#981 [11:48] <cbroughton> xolotl: GCJ compiling minecraft is like Windows Seven on a server vs. FreeBSD
#982 [11:48] <cbroughton> It's night and day.
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#984 [11:50] <xolotl> cbroughton: Well I shall certainly keep it in mind. :)
#985 [11:50] <cbroughton> Mads1379: You can get the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) from here: http://download.java.net/jdk7/ Look for Windows: 18.61 MB
#986 [11:50] <Kealper> hey, my server runs windows 7 :P
#987 [11:50] <Kealper> don't hate lol
#988 [11:50] <Ketsuban> Does Mr Persson know about the connection resetting when you try to connect a 1.5_x client to a 1.4 server?
#989 [11:50] <oldtopmanserver> !server
#990 [11:50] <Ketsuban> ANd is there any temporary workaround?
#991 [11:50] <cbroughton> Kealper: Oh god... Enjoy 2GB RAM overhead, ntm some CPU overhead.
#992 [11:50] <oldtopmanserver> oops
#993 [11:51] <Mads1379> thx :)
#994 [11:51] <cbroughton> Ketsuban: Nope, wait for them to update the server.
#995 [11:51] <Ketsuban> cbroughton speaks the truth
#996 [11:51] <Kealper> (granted, this is also a personal server at my house, i'd never EVER run windows on a production server)
#997 [11:51] <Ketsuban> re: Win7
#998 [11:51] <Mads1379> hope it works
#999 [11:51] <cbroughton> Ketsuban: Fair enough.
#1000 [11:51] <cbroughton> Kealper: Fair enough. *
#1001 [11:51] <Kealper> cbroughton: the os only uses about 500mb of ram, it's a super stripped down windows 7
#1002 [11:51] <cbroughton> Even then, FreeBSD isn't anywhere near 'hard to use'.
#1003 [11:51] <xolotl> Honestly, Windows' server platforms are actually reasonable nowadays, IMO
#1004 [11:52] <xolotl> Though I guess that doesn't mean "Windows 7." :)
#1005 [11:52] <Kealper> so it's still heavier than *nix, but it's not like i'm doing full-on Aero and everything on it lol
#1006 [11:52] <cbroughton> xolotl: He said Windows 7. Not Windows Server 2008 R2.
#1007 [11:52] <xolotl> cbroughton: Yeah, don't mind me, I didn't get enough sleep last night. :)
#1008 [11:52] <Ketsuban> cbroughton: Well, I tried to install FreeBSD on my Mac
#1009 [11:52] <cbroughton> Kealper: Well, FreeBSD is steps lighter than linux. Let me do muse and tell you what I'm using now...
#1010 [11:52] <Ketsuban> and it refused to boot, no matter how much prodding I did in OF
#1011 [11:52] <Kealper> server 2008 R2 is practically just windows 7 that has been stripped of all visuals
#1012 [11:52] <Ketsuban> ^
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#1014 [11:53] <cbroughton> Kealper: I disagree, since you can re-add them with "Desktop Experience" haha.
#1015 [11:53] <xolotl> I don't understand how people can cope with Aero, honestly. Hideous UI, IMO.
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#1017 [11:53] <Kealper> cbroughton: i hate how true you are lol
#1018 [11:53] <cbroughton> Kealper: Hehe.
#1019 [11:53] <xolotl> I actually do have Win7 in a VM that I need to use for work occasionally; was the first thing I disabled
#1020 [11:53] <cbroughton> Mads1379: I'm glad I could help you.
#1021 [11:53] <Kealper> xolotl: it's not bad once you get used to it, but it's a massive resource hog
#1022 [11:53] <Kealper> fuck, i gotta go
#1023 [11:53] * Kealper waves _o/
#1023 [11:54] <cbroughton> See you Kealper .
#1024 [11:54] <xolotl> Kealper: Then again, I appear to be very particular about my UI experience. :)
#1025 [11:54] <xolotl> My requirements for a window manager appear to be "works exactly like IceWM," which makes it a bit difficult for others to compete.
#1026 [11:54] <xolotl> :)
#1027 [11:54] <xolotl> Goddamn smileys.
#1028 [11:55] <cbroughton> Here, my FreeBSD box (with one MC-server (non GCJ'd)) is taking... 93323264 bytes. (89 MB) of RAM.
#1029 [11:55] <Ketsuban> GCJ?
#1030 [11:55] <cbroughton> Ketsuban: Basically, that's with a standard mc-server.
#1031 [11:55] <cbroughton> Ketsuban: GCJ would be compiled.
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#1033 [11:56] <cbroughton> On top of the 93323264 bytes (89 MB), it's also using 1548288 b (1.3 MB) reserved and 139264 b (137 kb) kernel RAM.
#1034 [11:57] <cbroughton> So, about 91 MB used RAM with one MC-server running :/
#1035 [11:57] <cbroughton> Oh, forgot the 8 kb used for "Interrupt"
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#1037 [11:57] <Ketsuban> cbroughton: What platform?
#1038 [11:57] <sdvn> hello
#1039 [11:57] <bread> hey everyone Ketsuban is a pirate
#1040 [11:57] <cbroughton> Ketsuban: FreeBSD :)
#1041 [11:58] <Ketsuban> What hw platform @_@
#1042 [11:58] <Ketsuban> bread: Yar
#1043 [11:58] * Ketsuban boards a nearby schooner
#1043 [11:58] <cbroughton> Ketsuban: Hmm, an Intel Pentium 4 and 1GB of RAM.
#1044 [11:58] <Ketsuban> Ugh
#1045 [11:58] <cbroughton> It's just a local testbox.
#1046 [11:58] <cbroughton> And it runs better than most production MC server boxes.
#1047 [11:58] <Ketsuban> I'm trying to find documentation on getting FreeBSD to boot on a Mac
#1048 [11:58] <Ketsuban> because nothing I've read about works
#1049 [11:58] <bread> You can afford a Mac, but you still pirate a $20 indie game?
#1050 [11:59] <bread> really
#1051 [11:59] <cbroughton> Ketsuban: Don't. Macs don't support anything. Getting Windows to boot is hard enough sometimes.
#1052 [11:59] <Ketsuban> Windows? On a PPC?
#1053 [11:59] <Ketsuban> Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
#1054 [11:59] <cbroughton> Ketsuban: You didn't say PowerPC.
#1055 [11:59] <cbroughton> Ketsuban: You said Mac.
#1056 [11:59] <cbroughton> bread: Why pay for it? I regert it. I still can't play multiplayer
#1057 [11:59] <Ketsuban> It's a G4 Mac @_@
#1058 [12:00] <[E]MARANTz> How to downgrade Minecraft from 1.5 to 1,4? anyone knows?
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#1060 [12:00] <DreadLindwyrm> No idea
#1061 [12:00] <Ketsuban> Aaaaa
#1062 [12:00] <oldtopman> ??> downgrade
#1063 [12:00] <cbroughton> [E]MARANTz: Somebody on the forum makes binary patches to downgrade.
#1064 [12:00] <Whipser> i'm compleately lost on this port forwarding stuff @.@
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#1066 [12:00] <Ketsuban> I'm trying to get out of a building on a 1.5 server
#1067 [12:01] <oldtopman> ?? downgrade
#1068 [12:01] <oldtopman> ?? index
#1069 [12:01] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1070 [12:01] <Ketsuban> and I keep getting stuck in the doorway and then the door slams shut in front of me
#1071 [12:01] <cbroughton> ??<downgrade
#1072 [12:01] <cbroughton> ??< downgrade
#1073 [12:01] <cbroughton> It doesn't know about downgrading.
#1074 [12:01] <oldtopman> ?? tos
#1075 [12:01] <VoxelHead> tos: http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp - The one major rule: Do not distribute anything I've made. This includes the client and the server software for the game.
#1076 [12:01] <VoxelHead> tos: This also includes modified versions of anything I've made. In order to maintain control of the project, I need all game downloads to come from a single central source. I hope you understand.
#1077 [12:01] <Guest69971> how can i downgrade from 1.5 to 1.4 again ?
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#1079 [12:01] <Ketsuban> No, I don't understand
#1080 [12:01] <oldtopman> ^^That means no redistributing the 1.4 stuff
#1081 [12:02] <cbroughton> oldtopman: The person makes binary differential patches, they still meet the tos.
#1082 [12:02] <oldtopman> chroughton: anything I've made
#1083 [12:02] <Guest69971> and also if the new stuff doesnt work
#1084 [12:02] <Ketsuban> How do I get through the door?
#1085 [12:02] <Guest69971> why dont just use the old ones ?
#1086 [12:02] <cbroughton> oldtopman: It's not distributing what he's made.
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#1088 [12:02] <Whipser> Can anyone give me a guide too port forwarding please,portforwarding.com just keeps telling me to buy they're software -.-
#1089 [12:02] <oldtopman> chroughton: Then who made the patches?
#1090 [12:02] <Ketsuban> Whisper: Google
#1091 [12:02] <DreadLindwyrm> Please do not support the pirate!
#1092 [12:03] <cbroughton> oldtopman: If this were against his TOS, then why would it still be allowed?
#1093 [12:03] <oldtopman> chroughton: It isn't/
#1094 [12:03] <cbroughton> oldtopman: Do you even know what a binary differential patch is ....
#1095 [12:03] <Guest69971> because your minecraft.exe is still bugged you cant push to the "dont update" button, because if you do so you will get a blackscreen ...
#1096 [12:03] <Guest69971> so wtf ?
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#1098 [12:03] <Ketsuban> I just updated to 1.5_01
#1099 [12:03] <cbroughton> Guest69971: Yup, you can't NOT update.
#1100 [12:03] <cbroughton> Guest69971: It's cool.
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#1102 [12:04] <K4sebrot> Why cant my friend register?
#1103 [12:04] <Guest69971> all you can do is to push the update button if you dont want to get a blackscreen, and i think thats not about any "old" version its rather a bug in the exe ...
#1104 [12:04] <K4sebrot> Every Time it says me that the E-mail doestn look like an E-mail ôo
#1105 [12:05] <cbroughton> Guest69971: I launch from the jar, so I skip out the updating process altogether.
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#1107 [12:05] <Guest69971> and how do you do that ?
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#1110 [12:05] <cbroughton> Guest69971: Simply place a .bat (batch) file of the following line in your .minecraft folder: start C:\progra~1\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe -Xmx256M -Djava.library.path=bin/natives -cp bin/minecraft.jar;bin/jinput.jar;bin/lwjgl.jar;bin/lwjgl_util.jar net.minecraft.client.Minecraft
#1111 [12:05] <K4sebrot> I think you cant help me...
#1112 [12:05] <OmegaVesko> Run the jar file? :L
#1113 [12:05] <cbroughton> Guest69971: Modify the path to Java ofcourse.
#1114 [12:05] <quiggle> Hello?
#1115 [12:05] <K4sebrot> Hi
#1116 [12:05] <quiggle> I have a question.
#1117 [12:05] <K4sebrot> Me too <.<
#1118 [12:06] <Prototyp> i see there are others with the same problem i have...
#1119 [12:06] <quiggle> I seem to cannot register on the minecraft .net site, because i seem to have a non human email??
#1120 [12:06] <cbroughton> K4sebrot: Contact Notch, it's his site being a PoS. Good luck ever getting a response.
#1121 [12:06] <cbroughton> quiggle: ^
#1122 [12:06] <quiggle> dammit 0_o
#1123 [12:06] <Whipser> Oh i give up on this portforwarding BS -.-
#1124 [12:06] <cbroughton> Whipser: What is your router?
#1125 [12:06] <Prototyp> my minecraft gets out of memory errors all the time
#1126 [12:06] <quiggle> but how am i supposed to test 1.5 then -_-
#1127 [12:07] <Prototyp> when i load my world
#1128 [12:07] <Whipser> WRT160N V3
#1129 [12:07] <cbroughton> Prototyp: Then change the amount of RAM you let it use.
#1130 [12:07] <Prototyp> i already did
#1131 [12:07] <Prototyp> 1024 and 512
#1132 [12:07] <cbroughton> Prototyp: How much RAM do you give it? (-Xmx)
#1133 [12:07] <Prototyp> doesnt work..
#1134 [12:07] <cbroughton> Prototyp: By default minecraft launches with -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M
#1135 [12:07] <cbroughton> Prototyp: Not 1024 512.
#1136 [12:08] <Whipser> I've read up on things like static IP and all that BS but i can not find a single guide on how to actually set any of it up -.-
#1137 [12:08] <Prototyp> ok ill try
#1138 [12:08] <cbroughton> Brb while I make a minecraft launcher, since the existing one is rather limited.
#1139 [12:08] <cbroughton> limited / doesn'
#1140 [12:08] <cbroughton> t even work *
#1141 [12:08] <[E]MARANTz> i downloaded a new Minecraft launcher from Minecraft.net, because my old one updated to 1.5 automaticly, and when i try to log in now i get "cant connect to minecraft.net" Why?
#1142 [12:08] <OmegaVesko> Whipser: ItÅ› really simple, just go to your routerÅ› settings, it should be a switch in there somewhere.
#1143 [12:09] <cbroughton> OmegaVesko: That's one screwed up router. Good luck helping him.
#1144 [12:10] <Whipser> OmegaVesko, is that where i type in my IP adress and do the setting from the web brower?
#1145 [12:10] <[E]MARANTz> anyone know?
#1146 [12:10] <Prototyp> -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M doesnt work
#1147 [12:10] <Whipser> browser*
#1148 [12:10] <Prototyp> its directly after loading the world
#1149 [12:11] <Prototyp> hm, maybe the world is broken...
#1150 [12:11] <[E]MARANTz> i downloaded a new Minecraft launcher from Minecraft.net, because my old one updated to 1.5 automaticly, and when i try to log in now i get "cant connect to minecraft.net" Why?
#1151 [12:12] <cbroughton> [E]MARANTz: Because the site is finicky.
#1152 [12:12] <cbroughton> !check minecraft.net
#1153 [12:12] <Prototyp> is there a way to cut some peaces of the world so i can keep my buildings?
#1154 [12:12] <cbroughton> !check minecraft.net:80
#1155 [12:12] <Prototyp> somithing like an editor
#1156 [12:12] <cbroughton> Prototyp: Sure, use a world editor.
#1157 [12:12] <Prototyp> ok
#1158 [12:12] <Prototyp> ill google ;) thx
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#1164 [12:19] <skaelig> does someone know why i can't register with my email?
#1165 [12:20] <bread> skaelig: #help
#1166 [12:20] <bread> unless you mean minecraft.net regster
#1167 [12:20] <bread> register
#1168 [12:20] <bread> lol
#1169 [12:20] <bread> if you don't mean nickserv, ignore what I've said
#1170 [12:20] <skaelig> i mean register on minecraft.net
#1171 [12:20] <bread> ok ignore me then
#1172 [12:20] <bread> lol
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#1174 [12:22] <bread> !isdown minecraft.net
#1175 [12:22] <GreyBot> bread: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1176 [12:22] <bread> well then
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#1178 [12:23] <skaelig> i just get "That doesn't look like an e-mail to me!"
#1179 [12:23] <skaelig> and i've tried two different emails
#1180 [12:23] <oldtopman> skelig: What is the email?
#1181 [12:23] <skaelig> calle.scherling@gmail.com
#1182 [12:24] <bread> maybe it doesn't like the '.'
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#1184 [12:25] <skaelig> i've tried another one with '_'
#1185 [12:25] <oldtopman> skaelig: With gmail you can leave the . out.
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#1188 [12:26] <skaelig> u mean like "calle scherling@gmail.com" or what?
#1189 [12:26] <bread> yeah
#1190 [12:26] <bread> er
#1191 [12:26] <bread> no
#1192 [12:27] <bread> callescherling
#1193 [12:27] <bread> no .
#1194 [12:27] <bread> no space either
#1195 [12:28] <skaelig> still not working
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#1197 [12:31] <MorZa> Hello, is it only my that can't register an account to minecraft.net atm? it only says: That dosen't look like an email to me
#1198 [12:32] <MorZa> and its starting to piss me off T_T
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#1200 [12:35] <VoxelHead> we have no time for these games*£$%percent£~* but it's nothing sexual
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#1203 [12:42] <Neshfi> I got a problem making a minecraft account. The site keeps saying "That doesn't look like an e-mail to me!" (And I`ve tried 3 different email addresses, just in case)
#1204 [12:42] <oldtopmanserver> OKAY!
#1205 [12:42] <VoxelHead> \o/
#1206 [12:43] <oldtopmanserver> the registering bit is down.
#1207 [12:43] <Neshfi> Eh :p .... ok xD
#1208 [12:43] <oldtopmanserver> You are the third in a 1/2 hour to say that.
#1209 [12:43] <MorZa> Nesfhi i got the same problem.
#1210 [12:43] <oldtopmanserver> Kealper, GreyVulpine Can you change the topic to reflect that?
#1211 [12:44] <Neshfi> yeah, I didn`t knew if it was already a known problem or not and since the chat was quiet I just though "Oh what the heck, let`s just say it"
#1212 [12:44] <oldtopmanserver> Thats fine.
#1213 [12:44] <oldtopmanserver> It just gets annoying at some poinr.
#1214 [12:44] <Neshfi> So I guess it`s just a matter of sit back, relax and wait for a fix =) ?
#1215 [12:44] <oldtopmanserver> I suppose so.
#1216 [12:45] <Neshfi> Then I`ll just make that paypal account ready in the meanwhile xD ...
#1217 [12:46] <oldtopmanserver> x]
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#1220 [12:50] <Coalface> so quiet?
#1221 [12:53] <bokaholic> bok
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#1224 [12:55] <wayne> hi. is the login system down on the website?
#1225 [12:55] <sluggo> seems so :/
#1226 [12:55] <wayne> :(
#1227 [12:55] * VoxelHead befriends wayne
#1227 [12:56] <wayne> i guess i have no choice in the matter now.
#1228 [12:56] <sluggo> is there no mirror for the 1.5.1 update?
#1229 [12:56] <bokaholic> 1.5.1 already?
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#1231 [12:57] <sluggo> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=297698&sid=277cec6a8f4d29329deffb5b8ac6e27a
#1232 [12:58] <sluggo> i guess they play portal2 multiplayer at the office...
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#1236 [13:12] <Neshfi> Still not up >.<
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#1239 [13:13] <peru> i have problem with 'On a rail' achievement.. i looked into statistics.. 14,48 km traveled by minecraft, got in, rode a very long route without getting out, after i got out my statistics say 15,65 km so i travelled over 1 km but still havent got achievement
#1240 [13:14] <Morrolan> Peru: Might be worth trying it in a new save. :/
#1241 [13:14] <Kojengod> Anyone know about the bug where you sleep in the bed, but then attacked by a mob when you fall asleep?
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#1243 [13:14] <Morrolan> Kojengod: Is there a place where mobs could spawn nearby?
#1244 [13:14] <mib_qcrz5b> can anyone help me with minecraft?
#1245 [13:14] <Sazandora> Kojengod: It's intended, make sure where you're sleeping is safely lit
#1246 [13:14] <Neshfi> What`s the use of the statistics btw ?
#1247 [13:14] <Morrolan> mib: Ask your question, and we'll see.
#1248 [13:14] <Morrolan> Neshfi: Euhm, same as statistics in any game?
#1249 [13:14] <Kojengod> not that i can tell, i built my house in the desert, on the surface, so there isnt a spawner anywhere near
#1250 [13:14] <peru> im not gonna try it in new slot, LOL
#1251 [13:14] <Sazandora> Stats are fun!
#1252 [13:14] <Morrolan> Just to see how much you actually did. ;)
#1253 [13:15] <mib_qcrz5b> i open my inventory in game and then game freeze and close
#1254 [13:15] <Kojengod> its done this to me twice in two different area
#1255 [13:15] <Kojengod> areas*
#1256 [13:15] <Morrolan> Peru: Well, then not.
#1257 [13:15] <Neshfi> Yeah I always found them a bit unnececary xD ... But I guess other love it :P
#1258 [13:15] <Morrolan> Neshfi: Yep. :D
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#1261 [13:15] <Kojengod> i have light in every square of my home and its still spawning mobs
#1262 [13:15] <Morrolan> Mib: Euhm didn't see this before. Are you using any mods?
#1263 [13:15] <mib_qcrz5b> no mods no text packs
#1264 [13:16] <Morrolan> Kojengod: Yea, seen a few pees with that problem. Don't know if and how they managed to fix it.
#1265 [13:16] <Morrolan> Mib: Does it give you an error when it closes?
#1266 [13:16] <mib_qcrz5b> no i open then freeze and then it close without any kind of error message
#1267 [13:17] <Kojengod> dont know if it matters, but im on an SMP server (run by a friend of mine) and another house that we built has less light then mine but i sleep there and dont get ambushed
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#1269 [13:18] <Essentials6555> anyone here could give me aserver hoster?
#1270 [13:18] <Morrolan> Essentials: Try google. ;)
#1271 [13:18] <Essentials6555> anyone here have a server hoster?
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#1273 [13:18] <Morrolan> Apart from that there is, for example, multiplay
#1274 [13:18] <Morrolan> And those AG_ guys are from a hoster as well I think.
#1275 [13:19] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :im getting an odd loop atm is there a known issue atm ?
#1276 [13:19] <Neshfi> How about this http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp ?
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#1278 [13:19] <Morrolan> Neshfi: He's looking for a hoster, not a list.
#1279 [13:19] <Neshfi> Oh w8, nvr mind xD ... Read the question wrong :P
#1280 [13:19] <JonathanS> lol
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#1282 [13:19] <Morrolan> Kojengod: Could it be that there is a cave below your house, in which monsters could spawn?
#1283 [13:19] <Neshfi> (Loooong and boring day without coffee ... that stuff happens a lot then xD)
#1284 [13:19] <Morrolan> Hehe :D:
#1285 [13:19] <Morrolan> :D*
#1286 [13:20] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC '-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN'>
#1287 [13:20] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :thats the error i get trying to login
#1288 [13:20] <Morrolan> ?? mc.net/hosting
#1289 [13:20] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: Since migrating over to Amazon's EC2 cloud, the cluster servers for minecraft.net have been under impressive strain. It has continually buckled under the pressure of registering users, authenticating clients, crediting accounts, providing custom skin content, maintaining a classic server directory, as well as providing a front-end website for users.
#1290 [13:20] <VoxelHead> mc.net/hosting: This is clearly not intended and Mojang is working on a new server arrangement, but is ensuring that it's done properly and not just quickly as was the move to Amazon.
#1291 [13:20] <Morrolan> Hmm nope, that's not it.
#1292 [13:21] <Kojengod> no caves (i have a small glitch where when i load my map i see underground for a bit)
#1293 [13:21] <Morrolan> Jimmy: When logging in to the launcher?
#1294 [13:21] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :no to my server that i've just updated again
#1295 [13:21] <h> Kojengod; it's the server generating chunks
#1296 [13:21] <Kojengod> chunks?
#1297 [13:21] <Neshfi> How do you update a server btw xD ?
#1298 [13:21] <Morrolan> !server
#1299 [13:21] <Morrolan> You need to download it again.
#1300 [13:21] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :i only just did it
#1301 [13:21] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :4 mins ago
#1302 [13:22] <Morrolan> Jimmy: Neshfi asked.
#1303 [13:22] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :from taht exact link
#1304 [13:22] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :oh sorry
#1305 [13:22] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :xD
#1306 [13:22] <Neshfi> Ke ke, thanks =)
#1307 [13:22] <Morrolan> np ^^
#1308 [13:22] <Morrolan> Jimmy: What error do you see in the server console?
#1309 [13:22] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :none
#1310 [13:22] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :2011-04-20 18:13:53 [INFO] /192.168.2.101:49867 lost connection
#1311 [13:22] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :sorry that
#1312 [13:22] <Morrolan> Ok. :/
#1313 [13:22] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :not really an error though xD
#1314 [13:22] <Neshfi> I thought more was involved in updating a server, but I guess not =p
#1315 [13:23] <Morrolan> Neshfi: Just don't forget to move over your old world file if you want to use it with the new server. ;) (Or you can just override the old .exe respectively .jar)
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#1317 [13:24] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :i ran this to update it
#1318 [13:24] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :rm minecraft_server.jar wget http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1303165294612 -O minecraft_server.jar
#1319 [13:24] <Guest69971> guys does someone know whats wrong with my minecraft? if i push to "dont update" it will just blackscreen, i have the current video drivers and current java, and no i dont want to update because the serv i play on with my friends is just the "old" version
#1320 [13:24] <VoxelHead> try 'rm -rf /' as root
#1321 [13:24] * AuBot kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please do not try tricking people with that.)
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#1323 [13:24] <Morrolan> Haha. XD
#1324 [13:24] <Morrolan> Seriously?
#1325 [13:24] <Morrolan> One bot kicked another?
#1326 [13:24] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :thats no bot
#1327 [13:25] <Morrolan> Yes, they are.
#1328 [13:25] <Morrolan> Both of them. :D
#1329 [13:25] <Morrolan> Anyway, back to your error. ^^
#1330 [13:25] <NotiCon> VoxelHead is just being silly
#1331 [13:25] <Morrolan> I have no idea what could cause this, seems it's somehow failing at validating your username at minecraft.net . Does it work if you put your server in offline mode?
#1332 [13:26] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Morrolan, you talking to me ?
#1333 [13:26] <Morrolan> Yep
#1334 [13:26] <Neshfi> Registration is still down btw (Just giving a head-up of the latest situation xD)
#1335 [13:26] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :offline mode just on my system ?
#1336 [13:26] <Morrolan> Offline mode of the server.
#1337 [13:26] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :i have no idear how to do that because i've never had to
#1338 [13:26] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :server.properties
#1339 [13:26] <Morrolan> There should be a property in server.properties, called, wait a second
#1340 [13:27] <Neshfi> Open your server.properties in notepad
#1341 [13:27] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :pfft
#1342 [13:27] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :nano
#1343 [13:27] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :online-mode=true
#1344 [13:27] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :online-mode=false
#1345 [13:27] <Morrolan> Yup, change it to false
#1346 [13:27] <m0nk> i got a hs_err_pid4348 document on my desktop. what do i do with it?
#1347 [13:27] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :yep im logged in
#1348 [13:28] <Morrolan> m0nk: That's a crashlog of the JVM I think. Did your minecraft or any other java program crash?
#1349 [13:28] <Apoca> delete it and then delete it from your recycle bin, and then do a clean wipe of your computer
#1350 [13:28] <Apoca> jk, idk :(
#1351 [13:28] <m0nk> i tried running the server with a xmx1024 thing.
#1352 [13:28] <m0nk> and it wouldnt open
#1353 [13:28] <m0nk> or more like
#1354 [13:29] <m0nk> open - close. really fast
#1355 [13:29] <Morrolan> Jimmy: It seems minecraft.net is down atm, that would explain your error.
#1356 [13:29] <Morrolan> !isdown minecraft.net
#1357 [13:29] <GreyBot> Morrolan: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1358 [13:29] <Morrolan> hmph
#1359 [13:29] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :oh odd i just downloaded the update from there lol
#1360 [13:29] <Morrolan> It might be overloaded then, and you were lucky to get one of the few spots. :D
#1361 [13:30] <Morrolan> Euhm, nevermind
#1362 [13:30] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :possibly but i downloaded it 3 times :|
#1363 [13:30] <Morrolan> It seems my DNS resolving is broken.
#1364 [13:30] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :lol
#1365 [13:31] <Kojengod> What are chunks?
#1366 [13:31] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :nope still get that odd error when switching back to online
#1367 [13:31] <Morrolan> Kojengod: Pieces of the map.
#1368 [13:32] <Kojengod> then what would that have to do with spawning monsters when i try and sleep?
#1369 [13:32] <Morrolan> Euhm, dunno?
#1370 [13:32] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :you just dont have enough walls
#1371 [13:32] <Morrolan> Jimmy: It might be minecraft.net not being able to keep up then, did it work before?
#1372 [13:32] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :sure
#1373 [13:32] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :was playing on it last night
#1374 [13:33] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :seems these amazon cloud clusters are good then yeah ? lololol
#1375 [13:34] <Kojengod> ... would too many windows be considered areas of darkness?
#1376 [13:35] <Morrolan> I don't think so. You could try blocking them though. :/
#1377 [13:36] <Neshfi> Btw, make sure the mobs can`t jump over your walls xD ....
#1378 [13:37] <Kojengod> im in an enclosed house
#1379 [13:37] <Neshfi> Oh
#1380 [13:37] <Kojengod> ^^;;
#1381 [13:37] <VoxelHead> =]
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#1383 [13:37] <ToxicMerlin> hey guys ^^ does someone know whats wrong with my minecraft? if i push to "dont update" it will just blackscreen, i have the current video drivers and current java, and no i dont want to update because the serv i play on with my friends is just the "old" version
#1384 [13:38] <Kojengod> that's why im so... vexed by this. Im surrounded by 4 walls, a ceiling (though its full glass) and torches ever 3 blocks.. i /really/ dont see why im getting ambushed when i sleep
#1385 [13:38] <Kojengod> .. and a floor.. :P
#1386 [13:38] <m0nk> a door?
#1387 [13:38] <Neshfi> Build an electronic plasma field around your bed that vaporizes every mobs that enters that field o_0 ?
#1388 [13:38] <m0nk> with no trigger block on the outside
#1389 [13:38] <Kojengod> lol
#1390 [13:38] <Kojengod> yes a door, no trigger
#1391 [13:39] <Turdfaice> hey is the servers down?
#1392 [13:39] <Neshfi> I made a nice fort once ... with doors that only open from the inside ... but then I fell of my wall and ended up on the outside with closed doors xD
#1393 [13:39] <Morrolan> Turdfaice: It seems minecraft.net is suffering atm, yea.
#1394 [13:40] <Kojengod> i even have cacti surrounding my house ><
#1395 [13:40] <Turdfaice> okay I was getting pissed. I went to every other server and all of them were down
#1396 [13:40] <Neshfi> (Yeah, I used an offline server first just for trail (That`s why I`m busy getting an accoutn now !))
#1397 [13:40] <Turdfaice> @ Morrolan, thanks though
#1398 [13:41] <ToxicMerlin> so ? could someone help me with that problem ?
#1399 [13:41] <DB> Hello everyone, I have one question, I found a secret cave in the game where he had a spinning cube, wha is it? ps: I'm Portuguese but I am using a translator
#1400 [13:41] <Razorflame> Spinning cube
#1401 [13:41] <Razorflame> hmm
#1402 [13:41] <Razorflame> sounds like a monster spawner
#1403 [13:41] <Razorflame> *mob spawner
#1404 [13:41] <Morrolan> DB: A mob spawner.
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#1406 [13:41] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mob_spawner
#1407 [13:41] <Razorflame> Does it have flames?
#1408 [13:41] <Razorflame> and is it turquoise?
#1409 [13:42] <Morrolan> Need a wiki command for the bot. :/
#1410 [13:42] <Razorflame> ?? wiki
#1411 [13:42] <VoxelHead> wiki: For general questions about Minecraft gameplay, the Minecraft Wiki is an excellent resource.
#1412 [13:42] <VoxelHead> wiki: Go to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/ and enjoy!
#1413 [13:42] <ToxicMerlin> once ... with doors that only open from the inside ... but then I fell of my wall and ended up on the outside with closed doors xD
#1414 [13:42] <ToxicMerlin> (19:39:55) (Morrolan) Turdfaice: It seems minecraft.net is suffering atm, yea.
#1415 [13:42] <ToxicMerlin> (19:40:20) (Kojengod) i even have cacti surrounding my house ><
#1416 [13:42] <ToxicMerlin> (19:40:29) (Turdfaice) okay I was getting pissed. I went to every other server and all of them were down
#1417 [13:42] <ToxicMerlin> (19:40:31) (Neshfi) (Yeah, I used an offline server first just for trail (That`s why I`m busy getting an accoutn now !))
#1418 [13:42] <Morrolan> Razor: Yea, more like on to query the wiki I meant.
#1419 [13:42] <DB> yes in flames
#1420 [13:42] <Razorflame> DB: Mob spawner
#1421 [13:42] <Razorflame> Make torches around it
#1422 [13:42] <Razorflame> so they can't spawn
#1423 [13:42] <Razorflame> and keep a weapon out
#1424 [13:43] <Neshfi> Can`t you kill a mob spawn block?
#1425 [13:43] <DB> ok thanks
#1426 [13:43] <Razorflame> yes you can
#1427 [13:43] <Neshfi> But ?
#1428 [13:43] <m0nk> you have to hit it like 70 times
#1429 [13:43] <Razorflame> attack it to destroy it
#1430 [13:43] <Razorflame> Yeah
#1431 [13:43] <Morrolan> Most people prefer to make a mob farm around it though.
#1432 [13:43] <Razorflame> yep
#1433 [13:43] <Morrolan> But if you don't want to you can destroy it without too much hassle.
#1434 [13:43] <Razorflame> Replace the entire floor with cactuses :)
#1435 [13:44] <Neshfi> Me being the inpatient one ... I used the /give to speed things up xD ...
#1436 [13:44] <m0nk> .. /give mobspawner 99 99
#1437 [13:44] <Razorflame> I had a glitch in the server I was playing on
#1438 [13:45] <Razorflame> I accidentally threw my Diamond Pick onto the ground and it clipped through the entire map :o
#1439 [13:45] <Neshfi> .. /give player 52 64
#1440 [13:45] <m0nk> tnt right?
#1441 [13:45] <Neshfi> No, mob spawner xD
#1442 [13:45] <m0nk> uh
#1443 [13:46] <m0nk> i have the data value page up so..
#1444 [13:46] <Razorflame> m0nk
#1445 [13:46] <Neshfi> It`s /give [playername] [itemID] [quantity]
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#1447 [13:46] <Razorflame> what's the itemID for diamond pick?
#1448 [13:46] <m0nk> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_Values
#1449 [13:46] <m0nk> 278
#1450 [13:46] <Neshfi> 278
#1451 [13:46] <Razorflame> I need to ask op to /give me 2 of them
#1452 [13:46] <Razorflame> I lost them
#1453 [13:46] <Razorflame> because of glitches
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#1456 [13:47] <LordEddi> Suuure :p
#1457 [13:48] <Razorflame> I'm serious
#1458 [13:48] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE serious? feel these nipples!
#1459 [13:48] <Razorflame> :o
#1460 [13:48] <LordEddi> o.O
#1461 [13:48] <VoxelHead> well slap my ass and call me "susan"
#1462 [13:48] <LordEddi> I'd prefer not to..
#1463 [13:48] <bokaholic> Bahaha
#1464 [13:48] <VoxelHead> FOOLS! i am VoxelHead!
#1465 [13:48] <m0nk> !m0nk3n paid
#1466 [13:48] <m0nk> oops
#1467 [13:48] <Razorflame> !paid m0nk3n
#1468 [13:49] <ToxicMerlin> hey guys ^^ does someone know whats wrong with my minecraft? if i push to "dont update" it will just blackscreen, i have the current video drivers and current java, and no i dont want to update because the serv i play on with my friends is just the "old" version
#1469 [13:49] <m0nk> !paid m0nk3n
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#1471 [13:49] <Razorflame> :D
#1472 [13:49] <VoxelHead> :-)
#1473 [13:50] <m0nk> Then download minecraft_server.jar to anywhere, then launch it as:
#1474 [13:50] <m0nk> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#1475 [13:50] <m0nk> how do i get that to work=
#1476 [13:50] <m0nk> ?*
#1477 [13:51] <OmegaVesko> TocixMerlin: Dunno, but it sholdn take too long for whomever is runnig the server to update it/
#1478 [13:51] <Turdfaice> Alot of people are having problems wth the update
#1479 [13:51] <Morrolan> M0nk: Create a textfile and put that line into it, then rename it to run.bat
#1480 [13:52] <Morrolan> Put it in the same folder as the server is in and double click it.
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#1482 [13:52] <Morrolan> (Assuming you're on windows)
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#1484 [13:52] <m0nk> i am
#1485 [13:52] <m0nk> didnt work
#1486 [13:52] <m0nk> open - cløose really fast
#1487 [13:52] <Morrolan> What does it spit out then?
#1488 [13:52] <m0nk> nothing
#1489 [13:52] <ToxicMerlin> yea cause the serv cant be patched with the normal server patch i dont exacly know why but my friend told me that ... cant i just start the minecraft.exe without that patch thing ?
#1490 [13:52] <dopeghoti> OmegaVesko: Many server admins, myself included, wait for big reports on server updates before pulling the trigger, and that's not even getting into the whole mod thing.
#1491 [13:52] <cbroughton> Hmm, minecraft refuses to update to 1.5_02 :/
#1492 [13:52] <cbroughton> Just at 1.5_01 which everyone knows is.... yeah
#1493 [13:53] <dopeghoti> IIRC _02 is a serverside update only
#1494 [13:53] <Turdfaice> Even 1.5_02 is still having problems
#1495 [13:53] <bokaholic> o.o
#1496 [13:53] <OmegaVesko> dopeghoti: True, but it depends on what kind of server it is. If its a small Vanilla server, its probably going to get updated fairly quickly.
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#1498 [13:53] <dopeghoti> define 'huge' please,
#1499 [13:53] <cbroughton> Turdfaice: dopeghoti bokaholic So, why won't he just do what he promised? RCs and stuff?
#1500 [13:53] <Morrolan> m0nk: Put a @pause on a new line after that line you already put in the file.
#1501 [13:53] <cbroughton> Honestly, getting tired of this.
#1502 [13:53] <dopeghoti> OmegaVesko: My vanilla server is still at 1.3 by community request
#1503 [13:53] <dopeghoti> (rabid wolves, etc)
#1504 [13:53] <m0nk> how?
#1505 [13:53] <m0nk> like whae?
#1506 [13:54] <Morrolan> Well, open the file again and append a new line containing "@pause" to it.
#1507 [13:54] <m0nk> doesn't recongnize as internal or external'. that error thing
#1508 [13:55] <OmegaVesko> dopeghoti: Well, like I said, it all depends on the player base. If I was a server admin, I wouldnt mind keeping it on an older version by request.
#1509 [13:55] <Morrolan> m0nk: Two ways, let's take the lazy one. (Unless someone wants to walk him through setting the PATH variable. :D )
#1510 [13:55] <ToxicMerlin> yea but
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#1512 [13:55] <m0nk> i put "programfiles(86) to the path to java too. but it didnt work
#1513 [13:55] <ToxicMerlin> as serv admin you have to wait till the patch comes out and if its not out you are f...ed up
#1514 [13:56] <Morrolan> m0nk: Put the path into quotes. ("")
#1515 [13:56] <m0nk> did
#1516 [13:56] <Morrolan> What does it say then? Still the same?
#1517 [13:56] <cbroughton> You can set your path by right clicking "Computer" on the start menu, going to Properties; navigating to the Advanced tab and clicking "Environment Variables". Add the new path variable to the end.
#1518 [13:57] <Neshfi> I`ll be back in an hour to see if the Reg is up again then, cya later ppl!
#1519 [13:57] <Morrolan> cya
#1520 [13:57] <m0nk> it opens a window then stay for a bit then it gives me could not find the main calss java
#1521 [13:57] <m0nk> class*
#1522 [13:58] <Morrolan> Euhm seen that before I think. Could you paste the whole command with which you're launching it?
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#1525 [13:58] <m0nk> "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe" java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui'
#1526 [13:58] <m0nk> @pause
#1527 [13:58] <Guziec> Em, i think I need help registering on Minecraft..
#1528 [13:58] <ToxicMerlin> btw @cbroughton what you told me earlyer on, is not working = / did it like your told me but ... doesnt work ...
#1529 [13:59] <Guziec> On all of my emails, it says "That doesn't look like an e-mail to me!"
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#1531 [13:59] <cbroughton> ToxicMerlin: Did what ?
#1532 [13:59] <Guziec> anyone has the same problem?
#1533 [14:00] <Guziec> ...
#1534 [14:00] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Could you take m0nk over? I'll have to go in half a minute.
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#1536 [14:01] <Morrolan> Guziec: With which mail adress are you
#1537 [14:01] <VoxelHead> bye guziec
#1538 [14:01] <Morrolan> euhm, nevermind...
#1539 [14:01] <ToxicMerlin> cbroughton pm'ed you
#1540 [14:02] <cbroughton> ToxicMerlin: I got no PM from you.
#1541 [14:02] <cbroughton> ToxicMerlin: Try /query cbroughton
#1542 [14:03] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
#1543 [14:03] <wayne> hey VoxelHead, you have an op thing next to your name. does that mean you know when the registration will be fixed? :D
#1544 [14:03] <xolotl> wayne: VoxelHead is a bot, not a human
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#1546 [14:03] * VoxelHead smacks xolotl
#1546 [14:03] <VoxelHead> shut up
#1547 [14:03] <wayne> xolotl, that doesn't mean it doesn't know!
#1548 [14:04] <cbroughton> ??<VoxelHead
#1549 [14:04] <cbroughton> ??< VoxelHead
#1550 [14:04] <cbroughton> Says bot bro.
#1551 [14:04] <wayne> maybe if i ask nicely enough it'll form the necessary connections in its programming.
#1552 [14:05] <Jockis> Hello everyone! I recently encountered a problem in multiplayer. The problem is that mobs spawn in my safehouse during night, but only when I sleep. But the house is well lit. Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
#1553 [14:05] <cbroughton> Jockis: Bed bug, for a while now.
#1554 [14:06] <cbroughton> Jockis: Beds spawn mobs regardless of light, gotta love it.
#1555 [14:06] <Jockis> so, have this problem always been in minecraft since beds were added? or is it new with 1.5?
#1556 [14:06] <cbroughton> Jockis: Since beds were added.
#1557 [14:07] <Jockis> strange, I've never had the problem before. Well, thanks for the help anyway :)
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#1559 [14:08] <arnem> um
#1560 [14:08] <arnem> i got a problem with my minecraft
#1561 [14:08] <Kealper> ok back
#1562 [14:08] * Kealper eats wasabi almonds
#1562 [14:08] <arnem> anybody maybe have the same problem
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#1564 [14:09] <Kealper> arnem: what problem?
#1565 [14:09] <Guziec> Is the register system down or something?
#1566 [14:09] <arnem> when i place tracks and soon they fails
#1567 [14:09] <NotiCon> that didnt make much sense
#1568 [14:09] <Kealper> arnem: do you mean as soon as you place minecart tracks, they disapear?
#1569 [14:10] <peru> i have problem with 'On a rail' achievement.. i looked into statistics.. 14,48 km traveled by minecraft, got in, rode a very long route without getting out, after i got out my statistics say 15,65 km so i travelled over 1 km but still havent got achievement.. what am i doing wrong?
#1570 [14:10] <arnem> not dissapear but if i shall go up a block they wont
#1571 [14:10] <Guziec> Whenever I register on my @yahoo.co.uk or @gmail.com/@googlemail.com account, the website says "That doesn't look like an e-mail to me!
#1572 [14:10] <arnem> and my stats reset every secound -.-
#1573 [14:10] <Kealper> peru: i believe it's that you don't just travel 1km on a minecart, i think you actually have to go atleast 1km away from where you started using a minecart
#1574 [14:10] <cbroughton> arnem: Stats don't even save right now.
#1575 [14:11] <cbroughton> arnem: Again, Notch fail ( is this 20 today? )
#1576 [14:11] <arnem> i know
#1577 [14:11] <Guziec> Whenever I register on my @yahoo.co.uk or @gmail.com/@googlemail.com account, the website says "That doesn't look like an e-mail to me!
#1578 [14:11] <peru> ok Kealper thx
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#1581 [14:11] <cbroughton> Guziec: Nothing you can do, just post about it on the getsatisfaction website.
#1582 [14:11] <cbroughton> Guziec: Notch will fix it eventually if you say something there.
#1583 [14:12] <Kealper> Mollstam is in charge of the website stuff, you can probably get his attention on twitter
#1584 [14:12] * Kealper checks if he's here atm
#1584 [14:12] <cbroughton> GreyVulpine: Consider addint to the channel that Notch DOES NOT come here, and that server issues are NOT covered.
#1585 [14:12] <dopeghoti> Kealper: Here, maybe. Attentively so? Remains to be seen.
#1586 [14:12] <Kealper> dopeghoti: so it seems
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#1588 [14:12] <arnem> cbrougton: i dont think notch read his mail again :P
#1589 [14:13] <cbroughton> arnem: Notch never reads his mail.
#1590 [14:13] <cbroughton> arnem: This is a fact we come to know.
#1591 [14:13] <dopeghoti> Sure he does.
#1592 [14:13] <dopeghoti> he just doesn't reply to it all
#1593 [14:13] <Kealper> support@mojang.com and payment@mojang.com are checked daily now
#1594 [14:13] <sluggo> still connection refused on mc.net :(
#1595 [14:13] <cbroughton> dopeghoti: He doesn't even reply to "Oh hey, I bought an account with transaction ID ########### and it doesn't work."
#1596 [14:14] <cbroughton> Kealper: Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure they are.
#1597 [14:14] <Kealper> cbroughton: they are
#1598 [14:14] <arnem> sluggo i had a problem with that that minecraft.net was blocked to me or shomthing i culdnt enter but on my phone i culd try on another pc
#1599 [14:14] <cbroughton> Kealper: I have yet to get a single response to anything I've sent, ever. Using multiple emails too incase they just don't like the looks of my address -_-
#1600 [14:14] <Kealper> cbroughton: although i'm not at liberty to say who it is that checks them, they would prefer their identity stay secret
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#1602 [14:14] <sluggo> aha
#1603 [14:14] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go o_O
#1604 [14:15] <arnem> mr.notch shuld be here now
#1605 [14:15] <Kealper> Notch doesn't hardly touch IRC anymore
#1606 [14:15] <arnem> :P
#1607 [14:15] <arnem> i want a channel like this
#1608 [14:15] <sluggo> router-reset, hope i can connect then
#1609 [14:16] <Kealper> sluggo: what issue are you having?
#1610 [14:16] <arnem> sluggo if u can connect with another computer i can fix it
#1611 [14:16] <Kojengod> bah...
#1612 [14:16] <arnem> or another device :D
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#1614 [14:17] <Kojengod> whoever asked if there was a cave near my house, you were right, aparently i didnt check well enough and found an underground spring directly under my home
#1615 [14:17] <arnem> ahhhh i want pizza i burned the one and only i had -.-
#1616 [14:17] <arnem> arnem u failed
#1617 [14:17] <Kojengod> that's what was causing the mobs to spawn
#1618 [14:17] <Morrolan> Kojengod: Ah, nice. :)
#1619 [14:17] <arnem> i killed like 20 cows without getting item
#1620 [14:17] <Kealper> sluggo: i need you to answer this question completely honestly, nothing with happen to you if you say yes...
#1621 [14:18] <Kealper> sluggo: did you ever try to play minecraft beta without paying?
#1622 [14:18] <Kojengod> *wears the failhat proudly*
#1623 [14:18] <arnem> kealper
#1624 [14:18] <arnem> if he can connect with another device i know wat he haz to do
#1625 [14:18] <Kealper> arnem: we might be thinking of the same problem lol
#1626 [14:18] <arnem> i got a viruz that blocked miecraft
#1627 [14:18] <Kealper> oh, or not
#1628 [14:19] <arnem> :D
#1629 [14:19] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1630 [14:19] <ToxicMerlin> cbrou did you read the pm ?
#1631 [14:19] <arnem> im not sure if it was a viruz
#1632 [14:19] <arnem> it also can be a batch
#1633 [14:19] <arnem> hmmmmm
#1634 [14:19] <Morrolan> uhu
#1635 [14:19] <arnem> i like batch maybe i can create somthing to him to fix it....
#1636 [14:20] <Kealper> i'm actually more leaning towards his hosts file being edited to redirect minecraft.net to localhost
#1637 [14:20] <arnem> wtf is issue?
#1638 [14:20] <Kojengod> btw, if anyone is interesting in knowing, the mob spawn glitch also happens if you build your house up in the air and its too close to the ground.. dont know the spacing yet
#1639 [14:20] <arnem> um i can use a batch to block and unblock a site :D
#1640 [14:22] <Kealper> arnem: using route?
#1641 [14:22] <arnem> using batch
#1642 [14:22] <Kealper> i mean the command in the batch file...
#1643 [14:23] <arnem> i read batch and learn :D
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#1645 [14:24] <ToxicMerlin> hey guys ^^ does someone know whats wrong with my minecraft? if i push to "dont update" it will just blackscreen, i have the current video drivers and current java, and no i dont want to update because the serv i play on with my friends is just the "old" version
#1646 [14:24] <arnem> no i can show u one
#1647 [14:24] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: any mods installed?
#1648 [14:24] <ToxicMerlin> nop
#1649 [14:24] <arnem> cls title .:The Cure:. echo This does not unblock websites that are blocked by any 3rd party. echo Ex. Impero, Norton, etc... echo. echo This will only unblock any sites that you have blocked with this program. echo. cd C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc del hosts echo ake a # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp. >> "hosts" echo # >> "hosts" echo # This
#1650 [14:24] <arnem> ther u got one
#1651 [14:24] <cbroughton> Oh god
#1652 [14:24] <cbroughton> Notch's code... just... oh god
#1653 [14:24] <Kealper> that....
#1654 [14:24] <arnem> yes that
#1655 [14:25] <cbroughton> if (jl =< ji) goto _l1; else goto _l2
#1656 [14:25] <Kealper> arnem: that is just writing data to the hosts file :/
#1657 [14:25] <sluggo> hp is available, login with mc not possible.
#1658 [14:25] <Morrolan> Arnem: Might want to paste it on pastie for better readability
#1659 [14:25] <Kealper> cbroughton: you do realize that is obfuscated code, right?
#1660 [14:25] <arnem> it unblocked the othersite
#1661 [14:25] <cbroughton> Kealper: Yes, but who the hell uses GOTOs? This isn't batch.
#1662 [14:25] <arnem> it did to me
#1663 [14:25] <Kealper> cbroughton: whatever obfuscator he is using, obviously ._.
#1664 [14:25] <Morrolan> Kealber: There are rumors that this isn't actually obfuscated, but that this is how Notch writes code. :p
#1665 [14:26] <Morrolan> Kealper*
#1666 [14:26] <cbroughton> Morrolan: I would not be surprised.
#1667 [14:26] <Morrolan> B is not ever near to p, I wonder why I made that mistake. :/
#1668 [14:26] <arnem> um Notch is coding with JAVA
#1669 [14:26] <cbroughton> Morrolan: I swear, mc might as well be auto-generated code. It's just as ill-refined.
#1670 [14:26] <cbroughton> arnem: Yes, that's the first problem.
#1671 [14:26] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): any idea how to fix it ?
#1672 [14:27] <cbroughton> And, of course, since the new 1.5_02 update; I can't GCJ the server.
#1673 [14:27] <cbroughton> Oh joy.
#1674 [14:27] <arnem> why is that a problem cb
#1675 [14:27] <cbroughton> arnem: Becuase Java is an inherantly slow language, due to the overhead of the runtime environment.
#1676 [14:28] <NotiCon> i would say its cause java runs in a VM
#1677 [14:28] <Morrolan> Well, can't change much about this, now can we. ;)
#1678 [14:28] <NotiCon> but we could
#1679 [14:28] <arnem> :timeloop time /t ping localhost /n 1 >nul goto :timeloop
#1680 [14:28] <arnem> :D
#1681 [14:28] <VoxelHead> =)
#1682 [14:28] <cbroughton> Morrolan: Yes, we can.
#1683 [14:28] <arnem> follow the time with BATCH
#1684 [14:28] <Kealper> 10 PRINT LOL!
#1685 [14:28] <Kealper> 20 GOTO 10
#1686 [14:28] <cbroughton> Morrolan: I GCJ compile it everytime there's an update, and use that instead of his code.
#1687 [14:29] <Morrolan> Got any stats on how much it improves performance?
#1688 [14:29] <cbroughton> Morrolan: It's native code, so computations are incredibly improved.
#1689 [14:29] <cbroughton> Morrolan: I'll benchmark it next time I compile, which is whenever mcp updates I suppose.
#1690 [14:29] <arnem> kealper : hide videos song and all with the batch locker :D
#1691 [14:29] <Morrolan> Ok, would be interesting to see the results.
#1692 [14:29] <cbroughton> Actually, I'll just GCJ the class files. BRB
#1693 [14:29] <Kealper> arnem: what i typed out was not MS Batch
#1694 [14:30] <cbroughton> Kealper: He made a funny.
#1695 [14:30] <cbroughton> Kealper: "Keep time in BATCH"
#1696 [14:30] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: as for your question...it could be a number of things
#1697 [14:30] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: was it working before the launcher asked to update?
#1698 [14:31] <arnem> kealper have u heard about csc
#1699 [14:31] <Kealper> arnem: no, am i supposed to know about it? :/
#1700 [14:31] <arnem> i can post it on my website
#1701 [14:31] <Kealper> arnem: what...is it?
#1702 [14:31] <arnem> batch
#1703 [14:32] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): yea it was working well it didnt even try to update so ... and what do you mean by number of things ?
#1704 [14:32] <Kealper> oh...
#1705 [14:32] <arnem> its a club there many batch pro makes 1 batch ill post it now...
#1706 [14:32] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: getting a black screen is a problem that can be caused by just about anything, it could be a simple problem or it could be something more serious
#1707 [14:33] <Kealper> arnem: i don't...really like MS Batch...lol
#1708 [14:33] <Morrolan> Can't you look for the error in the java console?
#1709 [14:33] <Morrolan> (If it throws one when blackscreening, that is)
#1710 [14:33] <arnem> u still shuld try it :D
#1711 [14:33] <Kealper> yeah, what Morrolan said, do you know how to check the java console?
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#1713 [14:34] <arnem> kealper wats java console maybe i can mod minecraft :D
#1714 [14:34] <DHtbh> guys
#1715 [14:34] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): and what should i do now ? i want to play again = (
#1716 [14:34] <Kealper> arnem: output-only...and you can't mod Minecraft using Batch...lol
#1717 [14:34] <arnem> guys say helo to DHtbh
#1718 [14:34] <DHtbh> Someone came onto a friend of mines server and destroyed everything, but earlier on my friend saved the world? how do i re load that world?
#1719 [14:34] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: are you playing it from the downloaded client or the browser?
#1720 [14:34] <arnem> :P
#1721 [14:35] <ToxicMerlin> client
#1722 [14:35] <arnem> i can use batch to much things i :D
#1723 [14:35] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): client
#1724 [14:35] <DHtbh> anyone?
#1725 [14:35] <Kealper> DHtbh: stop the server, rename the "world" folder, copy your friend's backup into the server's directory, and start the server again
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#1727 [14:35] <DHtbh> how do i access the backup
#1728 [14:36] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: try playing it in the browser, the browser will be easier to debug the problem
#1729 [14:36] <DHtbh> he just did /save world and how does he get that back up
#1730 [14:36] <Kealper> DHtbh: depends where he put it...that is something you would have to ask your friend
#1731 [14:36] <Kealper> oh...
#1732 [14:36] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): and how do i play in the browser ?
#1733 [14:36] <Kealper> DHtbh: that is not a real backup, you can't restore those :/
#1734 [14:36] <DHtbh> oh
#1735 [14:36] <DHtbh> whats the point in them?
#1736 [14:36] <Vector> Vector reporting in.
#1737 [14:37] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: http://www.minecraft.net/game/
#1738 [14:37] <Vector> Voxel, come alive!
#1739 [14:37] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: when it gets the black screen, leave it there and tell me so i can tell you what to do next
#1740 [14:37] <Kealper> Vector: vox is here atm lol
#1741 [14:37] <Vector> oh?
#1742 [14:37] <Vector> :)
#1743 [14:37] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): ok i will try
#1744 [14:37] * Kealper gives vox some coffee
#1744 [14:37] <VoxelHead> =D
#1745 [14:37] <Vector> HEY
#1746 [14:37] <cbroughton> Vector:
#1747 [14:37] <cbroughton> Vector:
#1748 [14:37] <VoxelHead> A thousand thankyous.
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#1750 [14:37] <Vector> VOXEL
#1751 [14:37] <Vector> XD
#1752 [14:37] <VoxelHead> Mmmmm...
#1753 [14:37] <VoxelHead> *drinks the coffee :)*
#1754 [14:37] <Vector> sup cbroughton
#1755 [14:37] <cbroughton> Vector: Stuff
#1756 [14:38] <Morrolan> DHtbh: This command just forces a save.
#1757 [14:38] <Vector> i see
#1758 [14:38] <VoxelHead> Mmmm... thanks :)
#1759 [14:38] <arnem> ahhhhh im hungry -.-
#1760 [14:39] <dopeghoti> vox, make arnem a sandwich
#1761 [14:39] * VoxelHead replicates a sandwich for arnem
#1761 [14:39] <Kealper> i'm surprized vox didn't just turn him into a sandwich O.o
#1762 [14:39] <dopeghoti> Kealper: that happens sometimes.
#1763 [14:39] <Morrolan> Must be beacuse of the coffee I guess.
#1764 [14:39] <Kealper> lol
#1765 [14:39] <arnem> kealper i saw minecraft with pop
#1766 [14:39] <arnem> poop
#1767 [14:40] <Kealper> arnem: uhh....what?
#1768 [14:40] <Vector> Vox, make me a sammich
#1769 [14:40] * VoxelHead lovingly crafts a sammich out of inf for vector
#1769 [14:40] <Vector> out of what???
#1770 [14:40] <arnem> ill send u a youtube link XD
#1771 [14:40] * Vector rejects the inf and just asks for bolts instead
#1771 [14:40] <dopeghoti> vox, make the sandwich into bolts
#1772 [14:40] <VoxelHead> Go go gadget magic wand!
#1773 [14:40] <VoxelHead> *PING* ... the is bolts
#1774 [14:40] <VoxelHead> I AM THE WIZARD#!#@£$#$~^!£#£!%percent
#1775 [14:41] <Vector> the is bolts rofl
#1776 [14:41] <Kealper> you're a wizard, Harry!
#1777 [14:42] <arnem> um minecraft poo
#1778 [14:42] <arnem> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x3kzTZPnkU
#1779 [14:42] <arnem> youtube link
#1780 [14:42] <VoxelHead> youtube link... yink
#1781 [14:42] <dopeghoti> vox: what?
#1782 [14:42] <VoxelHead> 3 fingers
#1783 [14:43] <dopeghoti> as opposed to 'yoink' which uses four (and a thumb), I suppose.
#1784 [14:44] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): hey it just frezze after i tryd to skip the patch
#1785 [14:44] <arnem> **
#1786 [14:44] <arnem> *** kitten is now who XD
#1787 [14:44] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: good, now...do you see a cofee cup icon somewhere near the time on your taskbar in the bottom right of the screen?
#1788 [14:45] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): yea
#1789 [14:45] <Kealper> GLaDOS: beat my AudioSurf awesomeness yet?
#1790 [14:45] <GLaDOS> nope :<
#1791 [14:45] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): still java right ?
#1792 [14:45] <arnem> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjQurDIw7EY&NR=1 hahahahhaha
#1793 [14:45] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: right click it and click Open Java Console
#1794 [14:45] <arnem> hahahahahahhha
#1795 [14:46] <VoxelHead> SON! THERE BETTER NOT BE ANY WALKING DEAD UP THERE!
#1796 [14:46] <Kealper> o.o
#1797 [14:46] <Kealper> GLaDOS: u jelly?
#1798 [14:46] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): did it
#1799 [14:46] <arnem> that one is dam funny
#1800 [14:46] <GLaDOS> Kealper: partially.
#1801 [14:46] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: anything important and scary-looking in there?
#1802 [14:46] <Kealper> GLaDOS: :3
#1803 [14:46] <GLaDOS> dont... mind me... just slipping back in...
#1804 [14:46] <cbroughton> GLaDOS: Rawr.
#1805 [14:47] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): well it found some errors i belive
#1806 [14:47] <cbroughton> #minecrafthelp: Let's all herald GLaDOS!
#1807 [14:47] <arnem> everybody see this---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjQurDIw7EY&NR=1
#1808 [14:47] <GLaDOS> of course, my nick change has hardened the cocks of portal loving memefags
#1809 [14:47] <Morrolan> ToxicMerlin: pastie them then.
#1810 [14:47] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: copy the whole thing and put it to http://pastebin.com and then give us the URL in here
#1811 [14:47] <GLaDOS> i now go back into disguise, and let my bouncer handle the waves of spam incoming
#1812 [14:47] <Kealper> lol
#1813 [14:47] <cbroughton> #minecrafthelp: Herald Kitten instead! :P
#1814 [14:47] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper
#1814 [14:47] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): on it
#1815 [14:47] * Kealper rawrs
#1815 [14:48] * cbroughton pokes GreyVulpine
#1815 [14:48] * dopeghoti kicked Kitten from #minecrafthelp (Reason: don't use that sort of terminology here.)
#1816 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Can you turn off highlight beeps on xchat?
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#1818 [14:48] <cbroughton> Sure you can.
#1819 [14:48] <cbroughton> Kitten: [Welcome back.]
#1820 [14:49] * Kealper hopes that cbroughton actually typed that out
#1820 [14:49] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): http://pastebin.com/u3kYQbBi
#1821 [14:49] <cbroughton> I did Kealper.
#1822 [14:49] <dopeghoti> No one likes a kitten who pisses on the carpet.
#1823 [14:49] <cbroughton> Kealper: If not, that would be one slow bot... 4sec delay...
#1824 [14:49] <Kealper> uhh....
#1825 [14:50] * Captain-Lightning[2] [Captain-Lightning[2]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1826 [14:50] <cbroughton> Kealper: Not even 4, 18 - 51 .... 31 seconds or so.
#1827 [14:50] <cbroughton> 33 *
#1828 [14:50] <cbroughton> 33 second delay heralding script would suck *
#1829 [14:50] <cbroughton> Bah, I'm just half-asleep it seems.
#1830 [14:50] <dopeghoti> cbroughton: not if it was trying to look human.
#1831 [14:50] <dopeghoti> or potato-powered.
#1832 [14:50] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: you might want to try updating...that could fix it :/
#1833 [14:51] <cbroughton> dopeghoti: Even humans shouldn't herald that slow.
#1834 [14:51] <dopeghoti> some forms of heraldry take _weeks_.
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#1836 [14:51] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): problem is, if i update i cant play on my friends server anymore = (
#1837 [14:51] <dopeghoti> there are some pretty obscure coats-of-arms out there
#1838 [14:51] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: look at it this way, you can't play on it now, either >.>
#1839 [14:51] <ex0r> hello
#1840 [14:52] <Kealper> if updating fixes it, then you can atleast play single player until your friend updates his server
#1841 [14:52] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): true = / is there realy no way to play at it atm ?
#1842 [14:52] <ex0r> so does anybody here know what happened to mcadmin
#1843 [14:52] <ex0r> or know if there is another comparable app out for mc smp servers?
#1844 [14:52] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: i guess you could try reinstalling video drivers, but that probably won't fix it
#1845 [14:52] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): could i fix the problem if i just get a new .mc folger from my friend ?
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#1847 [14:52] <Kealper> ToxicMerlin: that could do it
#1848 [14:53] <Kealper> ex0r: what features were you looking for?
#1849 [14:53] <ex0r> Kealper: a gui to control the server, as well as admin and userlevels, etc. basically what mcadmin provided
#1850 [14:53] <ToxicMerlin> (Kealper): alright so i will drive to him and try this = ) Kealper realy thank you, you helped me alot many many thanks = )
#1851 [14:53] <dopeghoti> /bin/ssh is pretty full-featured.
#1852 [14:53] <Kealper> ex0r: check out McMyAdmin, it's got a web interface and all that jazz
#1853 [14:54] <dopeghoti> it even handles more than just Minecraft (:
#1854 [14:54] <Kealper> dopeghoti: isn't it? :P
#1855 [14:54] <ex0r> Kealper: is that a new program that outdoes mcadmin ?
#1856 [14:54] <Kealper> ex0r: i think it's actually older than MCAdmin...but yes it should do about what you are looking for
#1857 [14:55] <ex0r> hmm, you have to pay to use it?
#1858 [14:55] <Kealper> no, there is a free version
#1859 [14:55] <ex0r> ah okay, there it is
#1860 [14:55] <ex0r> let me try it out
#1861 [14:55] <ex0r> thank you
#1862 [14:55] <Kealper> there is even a support channel in this irc that you can join if you have issues with it
#1863 [14:55] <Kealper> #mcma i believe
#1864 [14:56] <ex0r> mcadmin's site seems to not exist anymore
#1865 [14:56] <Kealper> ex0r: the creators of MCAdmin did some....unsavory things
#1866 [14:56] <ex0r> yeah, when they backdoored it, but he removed it in a later upate
#1867 [14:56] <ex0r> update*
#1868 [14:56] <Morrolan> Kealper: Isn't it #mcmyadmin ?
#1869 [14:56] <Kealper> i was actually referring to something quite recent
#1870 [14:57] <Kealper> which i won't say any more on
#1871 [14:57] <ex0r> oh? What was that?
#1872 [14:57] <ex0r> Havent kept up with it in a long time
#1873 [14:57] <Kealper> it was not related to MCAdmin, but it was related to Minecraft
#1874 [14:58] <ex0r> probably hacked it to remove authentication
#1875 [14:58] <Kealper> Morrolan: you could be correct, hmm
#1876 [14:58] <Kealper> ex0r: that's not all they did
#1877 [14:58] <Kealper> ex0r: not in the slightest, but you are dead-on with the general stuff
#1878 [14:59] <ex0r> for a long time he was trying to get teleportation to work, but the way the client worked and used auth against the server he couldnt, so he probably hacked it to get teleportation working
#1879 [14:59] <ex0r> *shrugs* as long as theres an alternative, no biggie
#1880 [14:59] <Kealper> far, far worse than just flying around or stuff
#1881 [15:00] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :used it to botnet the servers
#1882 [15:00] <Kealper> actually able to crash servers whenever they wanted, and they used (and abused) it
#1883 [15:00] <Jimmy06> 4d48:ad51:e01:702e:bf82:284b:f93d PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :thats a whild guess
#1884 [15:00] <ex0r> Doridian is a douche
#1885 [15:00] <Kealper> yes, yes he is
#1886 [15:00] <Kealper> but i digress
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#1888 [15:03] <ex0r> Kealper this looks like it is very nice, thanks for the link to it
#1889 [15:04] <Kealper> ex0r: it is quite decent, it's used by a lot of minecraft hosting companies as a frontend for people to manage their servers
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#1892 [15:14] <monslayer> hello?
#1893 [15:15] <Kojengod> hiya
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#1896 [15:24] <arnem> kealper http://arnemartin.webs.com/downloads.htm
#1897 [15:24] <arnem> download the cyer soldiers console :D
#1898 [15:24] <Kealper> >.>
#1899 [15:25] * MiLk [MiLk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1900 [15:25] <Kealper> if those are tools to assist in hacking, they are not allowed on this irc network :/
#1901 [15:25] <arnem> kealper u can also listen to some songs i have posted too http://arnemartin.webs.com/apps/podcast/
#1902 [15:25] <Thunder1> i cant login to the server i always played on
#1903 [15:25] <Thunder1> could this be because of the update?
#1904 [15:26] <Kealper> Thunder1: what does it tell you when you try?
#1905 [15:26] <arnem> um that isnt hack
#1906 [15:26] <Thunder1> loggin in and than mc crashes after maybe 30 seconds
#1907 [15:26] <arnem> kealper http://arnemartin.webs.com/apps/podcast/ & http://arnemartin.webs.com/downloads.htm
#1908 [15:26] <arnem> thunder do u modded ur minecraft?
#1909 [15:27] <arnem> its not dangrous to say yes
#1910 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Thunder1 - Do you get any error reports when Minecraft crashes?
#1911 [15:27] <Kealper> Thunder1: are you sure you are not trying to log in to a minecraft classic server?
#1912 [15:27] <Thunder1> yes i modded
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#1914 [15:27] <Thunder1> yes mom
#1915 [15:27] <arnem> thunder delete ur meta-inf
#1916 [15:27] <Morrolan> Could it be that the mods you're using aren't updated yet?
#1917 [15:28] <arnem> that too
#1918 [15:28] <Morrolan> Arnem: That wouldn't cause the issue he described.
#1919 [15:28] <arnem> witch mod are u using
#1920 [15:28] * Kealper goes afk
#1920 [15:28] <Thunder1> mh i removed all mods because they dindt work with 1.5
#1921 [15:28] <Thunder1> so this cant be the reason
#1922 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Thunder1 - Do you get any error reports when Minecraft crashes?
#1923 [15:28] <Thunder1> but maybe the server is still 1.4?!
#1924 [15:28] <arnem> um there is one that works
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#1926 [15:28] <Thunder1> where do i find these
#1927 [15:29] <Morrolan> Thunder: Well, try joining a server you know is updated then.
#1928 [15:29] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine, you have one, right?
#1929 [15:29] <VoxelHead> If i just reach in here
#1930 [15:29] <VoxelHead> *squelch*
#1931 [15:29] <VoxelHead> then the answer will be on this little bit of card.
#1932 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Not right now Morrolan
#1933 [15:29] <arnem> thunder1
#1934 [15:29] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#1935 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> smp.shadow-craft.net is updated, I believe
#1936 [15:29] * GreyVulpine makes sure
#1936 [15:29] <arnem> here : http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=152174
#1937 [15:29] <arnem> doesnt rec mod loader
#1938 [15:30] <arnem> request*
#1939 [15:30] <Morrolan> require. ;)
#1940 [15:30] <arnem> thx
#1941 [15:30] <arnem> i suck in eng
#1942 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> arnem - Thunder1 isn't looking for a mod that doesn't require mod loader
#1943 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> He's trying to figure out why his MC is crashing
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#1945 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, smp.shadow-craft.net is updated for 1.5_02
#1946 [15:31] <Kealper> ok back....with cake!
#1947 [15:31] <Morrolan> :)
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#1949 [15:31] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1950 [15:31] <lio> hello
#1951 [15:32] <lio> ~
#1952 [15:32] <Morrolan> Don't forget to give Vox some, thoug. :)
#1953 [15:32] <Kealper> hi
#1954 [15:32] <Morrolan> Hey lio
#1955 [15:32] <Morrolan> though*
#1956 [15:32] <Thunder1> http://mcserverlist.net/servers/4d9c868e85bbf863df000038
#1957 [15:32] <Thunder1> this is the server
#1958 [15:32] <lio> hey this is where we can ask questions about minecraft crashes etc?
#1959 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes lio
#1960 [15:32] <Morrolan> Lio: Yep
#1961 [15:32] <Thunder1> ah i guess they dindt updated until now
#1962 [15:32] <lio> ok hum so I m on Ubuntu 10.10
#1963 [15:33] <lio> and when I log in it update then writes done and goes to blakc screen for a few seconds
#1964 [15:33] <cbroughton> Sigh]
#1965 [15:33] <lio> then it tell me a crash error report
#1966 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Can you pastebin.com that crash report?
#1967 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#1968 [15:34] * Kurosak_Ichigo [Kurosak_Ichigo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1969 [15:34] <lio> hum sure how do i do that sorry i m new to this
#1970 [15:34] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Anyone here
#1971 [15:34] <VoxelHead> negative
#1972 [15:34] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I need help
#1973 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Copy the entirety of the error report
#1974 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Go to http://www.pastebin.com
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#1976 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> paste it there
#1977 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Give us the URL it gives you
#1978 [15:34] <Kurosak_Ichigo> The exe links wont work
#1979 [15:34] <Kurosak_Ichigo> For me
#1980 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - What do you mean?
#1981 [15:35] <lio> ok thanks
#1982 [15:35] * bokaholic noms on rice and reads people chatting.
#1982 [15:35] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I mean when i click the download button
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#1984 [15:35] <Kurosak_Ichigo> it says
#1985 [15:35] <Kurosak_Ichigo> save file
#1986 [15:35] <Kurosak_Ichigo> and i press okay.
#1987 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#1988 [15:35] <Kurosak_Ichigo> so whenever i launch the minecraft exe it says connection failed
#1989 [15:35] <Kurosak_Ichigo> and the background looks weird
#1990 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, it looks weird?
#1991 [15:35] <Kurosak_Ichigo> want me to take a screen shot
#1992 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Can you get a screenshot? Paste it at imgur.com
#1993 [15:35] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Okay
#1994 [15:36] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Will do
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#1996 [15:36] <UItraman> Hello
#1997 [15:36] <Kealper> hi
#1998 [15:36] <lio> http://pastebin.com/Su96aW2V like this?
#1999 [15:36] <UItraman> Hi Kealper
#2000 [15:36] <VoxelHead> sailing
#2001 [15:36] <Kealper> vox, shut up
#2002 [15:36] <VoxelHead> F to the I N E
#2003 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Yes lio, one sec
#2004 [15:37] <lio> k take your time!
#2005 [15:37] <arnem> back
#2006 [15:37] <UItraman> I am trying to get back a save file, any halp?
#2007 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a graphics problem, can you make sure you're running the latest video drivers?
#2008 [15:37] <lio> hum how do i check that?
#2009 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Via ubuntu, there should be a software repository that you can check, make sure your hardware is up to date
#2010 [15:38] <Kurosak_Ichigo> http://i.imgur.com/RNW17.png thats the link Grey
#2011 [15:38] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Take a look
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#2013 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> That looks like a normal login launcher to me Kurimus
#2014 [15:38] <arnem> re: greyvulpine i know cyz his minecraft crashed
#2015 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> er, Kurosak_Ichigo
#2016 [15:39] <arnem> cuz
#2017 [15:39] <arnem> *
#2018 [15:39] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Well heres the ting
#2019 [15:39] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Thing
#2020 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - You said you get "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" as the error message?
#2021 [15:39] <arnem> he had mods that inst for beta 1.5_1
#2022 [15:39] <Doomedweapon> Hey guys, I am new to Minecraft and was wondering if you could offer any tips.
#2023 [15:39] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Yes
#2024 [15:39] <Kurosak_Ichigo> That is correct
#2025 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Doomedweapon ->
#2026 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> !tutorial
#2027 [15:39] <Doomedweapon> Thanks
#2028 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Youtube is a great resource Doomedweapon. Also the wiki
#2029 [15:40] * GreyVulpine wonders if
#2029 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> ?? wiki
#2030 [15:40] <VoxelHead> wiki: For general questions about Minecraft gameplay, the Minecraft Wiki is an excellent resource.
#2031 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> !wiki
#2032 [15:40] <VoxelHead> wiki: Go to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/ and enjoy!
#2033 [15:40] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/
#2034 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2035 [15:40] <arnem> aubot that video is sooo old...
#2036 [15:40] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Grey
#2037 [15:40] <Urughak> ultraman> maybe this will help- http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=51286
#2038 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - First thing to check, I know this sounds weird, your date/time
#2039 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Make absolutely sure they're correct
#2040 [15:40] <Kurosak_Ichigo> ....
#2041 [15:40] <lio> i searched in file system for software and i get a couple folder like software properties etc
#2042 [15:41] <lio> is there a command in terminal?
#2043 [15:41] <UItraman> Thanks Urughak
#2044 [15:41] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Wednesday April 20th 2011 3:14PM
#2045 [15:41] <Urughak> sure thing
#2046 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> 3:14PM?
#2047 [15:41] <Kealper> O.o
#2048 [15:41] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Yes
#2049 [15:41] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Lol
#2050 [15:41] <mang0_> !time
#2051 [15:41] <GreyBot> GreyBot's time is: Wed Apr 20 15:41:38 2011.
#2052 [15:41] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I live in florida
#2053 [15:41] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Lmfao
#2054 [15:41] <mang0_> Its 20:44 here
#2055 [15:41] <mang0_> england
#2056 [15:41] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I dont get what that has to do with this
#2057 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Could you recheck that.. it's 3:41 on the east coast
#2058 [15:41] <arnem> bed bugs!
#2059 [15:42] <arnem> XD
#2060 [15:42] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Oh
#2061 [15:42] * mang0_ [mang0_@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2062 [15:42] <Kurosak_Ichigo> my bad
#2063 [15:42] <Kurosak_Ichigo> i read it wrong
#2064 [15:42] <Kealper> you dyslexia <#?
#2065 [15:42] <Kealper> <3?*
#2066 [15:42] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Anyways back on topic please
#2067 [15:42] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I dont know what to do
#2068 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Okay, date/time is correct then, I take it
#2069 [15:42] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Yes
#2070 [15:42] <arnem> im gona make a time loop
#2071 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Sec..
#2072 [15:43] * GreyVulpine checks if he can login
#2072 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, no problems here.
#2073 [15:43] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I don't quite understand that time/date has to do with my error
#2074 [15:43] * LoneBlackfang [LoneBlackfang@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
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#2076 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> If your date/time is out of sync, it can't authenticate the SSL connection
#2077 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> giving you a cannot connect to minecraft.net error
#2078 [15:43] <Kurosak_Ichigo> ....
#2079 [15:43] <Kealper> dang, ninja'd by grey
#2080 [15:43] <Kurosak_Ichigo> That seems kind of weird
#2081 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> :)
#2082 [15:44] <VoxelHead> =]
#2083 [15:44] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Okay Grey\
#2084 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, next thing to check, any security software/firewall blocking the connection
#2085 [15:44] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I tried to log on
#2086 [15:44] <Kurosak_Ichigo> And it said
#2087 [15:44] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Login failed
#2088 [15:44] <LoneBlackfang> Im trying to set up a server and don't know what port to forward
#2089 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Okay, that means that the username/password is incorrect
#2090 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> LoneBlackfang - 25565/TCP
#2091 [15:44] <Kealper> LoneBlackfang: 25565 on TCP
#2092 [15:45] <Kurosak_Ichigo> No
#2093 [15:45] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: ._.
#2094 [15:45] <Kurosak_Ichigo> It says Login failed
#2095 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> :)
#2096 [15:45] <LoneBlackfang> thank you
#2097 [15:45] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I have the correct account info
#2098 [15:45] <arnem> kealper server?
#2099 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - I understand that, but the server doesn't think so.
#2100 [15:45] <Kealper> arnem: what?
#2101 [15:45] <arnem> LoneBlackfang: 25565 is that a serv
#2102 [15:45] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Um okay?
#2103 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - Could you try a password recovery via http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#2104 [15:45] <LoneBlackfang> that is the port for my server
#2105 [15:45] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Dude
#2106 [15:45] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I know my password
#2107 [15:45] <Kurosak_Ichigo> What part of that
#2108 [15:45] * Razorflame [Razorflame@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2109 [15:45] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Do you not understnad
#2110 [15:46] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Understand*
#2111 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - The system isn't authenticating you
#2112 [15:46] <Kurosak_Ichigo> ....
#2113 [15:46] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2114 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> That's why it's giving a login failed error
#2115 [15:46] <Razorflame> Is a vein of 5 diamond blocks a good vein?
#2116 [15:46] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Shall I check my firewall?
#2117 [15:46] <Kealper> Razorflame: it's not bad lol
#2118 [15:46] <arnem> I NEED A MINECRAFT SERVER BETA 1.5_01
#2119 [15:46] <VoxelHead> Lordy.
#2120 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> No, you should do the password recovery, so the system can reset your password
#2121 [15:46] <Kurosak_Ichigo> ....
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#2123 [15:46] <Razorflame> Kealper: Best diamond vein you've gotten?
#2124 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> You can reuse your password afterwards Kurosak_Ichigo
#2125 [15:46] <Kealper> arnem: less caps, please....and why would you want 1.5_01? it crashes a lot
#2126 [15:47] <Kealper> Razorflame: i think about 11 in one vein
#2127 [15:47] <Razorflame> Kealper: I think I had an 8 diamond vein earlier
#2128 [15:47] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Okay grey
#2129 [15:47] <Kurosak_Ichigo> This is what it said
#2130 [15:47] <Kealper> average i've seen for diamonds is like 2-3 :/
#2131 [15:47] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Failed to send email: java.lang.RuntimeException: java.sql.SQLException: Column Index out of range, 17 > 16.
#2132 [15:47] <Razorflame> Yeah
#2133 [15:47] <Razorflame> my average is around 3-4
#2134 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> That's.. interesting.
#2135 [15:47] <arnem> i need shomthing to do -.-
#2136 [15:47] <Kealper> arnem: the 1.5_02 server works for the 1.5_01 client
#2137 [15:47] <Doomedweapon> Sweet, I got a kinda good base, with a bed, and some torches made by charcoal
#2138 [15:47] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I'm using Firefox by the way
#2139 [15:47] <Razorflame> My last few veins have been ok
#2140 [15:47] <Doomedweapon> thanks for the point in the direction guys
#2141 [15:47] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Ive tried other browsers
#2142 [15:48] <Razorflame> just got a 5 diamond vein
#2143 [15:48] <arnem> idc i want a server to play on!!!!
#2144 [15:48] <Razorflame> previously, only a 1 diamond vein ^_^
#2145 [15:48] <VoxelHead> r
#2146 [15:48] <Razorflame> !)!
#2147 [15:48] <Razorflame> !_!
#2148 [15:48] <Kealper> O.o
#2149 [15:48] <Razorflame> previous to that was a 3 vein
#2150 [15:48] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Grey
#2151 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Crap.
#2152 [15:48] <Kurosak_Ichigo> What should I do
#2153 [15:48] <arnem> -.-
#2154 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> mollstam broke the email recovery thing on minecraft
#2155 [15:48] <Razorflame> I swear, I find more Lapis than I do diamonds
#2156 [15:48] * GreyVulpine kicks mollstam
#2156 [15:48] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: ._.
#2157 [15:49] <Kealper> or rather
#2158 [15:49] <arnem> -.- :D o.0 =.=
#2159 [15:49] <Kealper> mollstam: ._.
#2160 [15:49] <arnem> XD
#2161 [15:49] <arnem> .-.
#2162 [15:49] <arnem> ._.
#2163 [15:49] <arnem> _._
#2164 [15:49] <Kealper> ok we can stop with the random faces now >.>
#2165 [15:49] <arnem> ok uhuuuu
#2166 [15:49] <arnem> ZXD
#2167 [15:49] <Razorflame> Kealper: I wish they added more ores into the game
#2168 [15:49] * MLoeven [MLoeven@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2169 [15:49] <DreadLindwyrm> What's your view on snails?
#2170 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy, Kurosak_Ichigo - You may need to wait a bit, it looks like the password recovery thing is broken on the website
#2171 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> That, or send an email to support@mojang.com
#2172 [15:50] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Okay well should I go fix my Java settings?
#2173 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing wrong with your java settings
#2174 [15:50] <Razorflame> By the way
#2175 [15:50] <Razorflame> What's all this fuss about 1.5_01 crashing a lot?
#2176 [15:50] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Well
#2177 [15:50] <MLoeven> i know it probibally isn't supported but does anyone know where i can get instructions on how to install both mod loader and the hd texture fix at the same time they seem to have some conflicts
#2178 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Razorflame - The 1.5_01 server binary crashes a lot
#2179 [15:50] <Razorflame> oh
#2180 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> MLoeven - #risuecraft
#2181 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> er,
#2182 [15:50] <Kurosak_Ichigo> The download links dont work and heres why
#2183 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft
#2184 [15:51] <Razorflame> the 1.5_01 doesn't crash itself?
#2185 [15:51] <Kealper> Razorflame: 1.5_02 server fixed that
#2186 [15:51] <Kealper> Razorflame: no, it was just a server issue
#2187 [15:51] <Kurosak_Ichigo> On my computer
#2188 [15:51] <Razorflame> nice
#2189 [15:51] <Kurosak_Ichigo> The file type for minecraft is application
#2190 [15:51] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Not exe
#2191 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> That's the same thing
#2192 [15:51] <Kealper> application is an exe
#2193 [15:51] <Razorflame> so now thisn't the file type for minecraft a .jar?
#2194 [15:51] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Then why the heck isnt it working...
#2195 [15:51] <Razorflame> nvm
#2196 [15:51] * Shephi [Shephi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2197 [15:51] <Razorflame> thinking of something else
#2198 [15:52] <Shephi> hello
#2199 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Because minecraft.net thinks you're typing in your username/password in wrong
#2200 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing wrong with the applicatioin
#2201 [15:52] <Kurosak_Ichigo> ...
#2202 [15:52] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I can only play single player
#2203 [15:52] <Kurosak_Ichigo> By the way
#2204 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> It's giving you a Login Failed. Which means it doesn't verify your minecraft login
#2205 [15:52] <Shephi> Someone know how to launch minecraft 1.5 from console?? im using java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame but seems like launcherframe doesnt exist anymore
#2206 [15:52] <Razorflame> hiya Shephi
#2207 [15:52] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Grey
#2208 [15:52] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I can only play single player
#2209 [15:52] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Not multiplayer
#2210 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - Did you pay for minecraft?
#2211 [15:53] <Kurosak_Ichigo> A friend gifted me it
#2212 [15:53] <Kealper> Shephi: what error is it giving you?
#2213 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - What username?
#2214 [15:53] <cbroughton> Shephi: Windows or *NIX ?
#2215 [15:53] <cbroughton> Kealper: He is missing some of the paths.
#2216 [15:53] <arnem> i dont like the update XD
#2217 [15:53] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Actually, my friend went on my account and bought it using his credit card
#2218 [15:53] <Shephi> windows, and console says cant find launcherframe class
#2219 [15:53] <Kealper> cbroughton: he could also be launching the wrong minecraft.jar
#2220 [15:53] <cbroughton> Shephi: Try start C:\progra~1\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe -Xmx256M -Djava.library.path=bin/natives -cp bin/minecraft.jar;bin/jinput.jar;bin/lwjgl.jar;bin/lwjgl_util.jar net.minecraft.client.Minecraft Note you'll have to change the things as needed
#2221 [15:53] <Apoca> o.0
#2222 [15:53] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I dont know why he did it though
#2223 [15:54] <Kurosak_Ichigo> I told him to just gift me it
#2224 [15:54] <LoneBlackfang> can I have someone try to connect to my server
#2225 [15:54] <cbroughton> Change the javaw path as needed, and execute that in the .minecraft folder (not in bin)
#2226 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> LoneBlackfang - Sure
#2227 [15:54] <Kurosak_Ichigo> So yeah grey
#2228 [15:54] <LoneBlackfang> PM me Gray
#2229 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - What username do you use on minecraft?
#2230 [15:54] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Ichigo958
#2231 [15:54] <lio> GreyVulpine : it started, is there any way to speed it up because it very slow and when I try to destroy blocks for example, the hand doesnt move
#2232 [15:54] <Shephi> thx cbroughton
#2233 [15:55] <Shephi> ill try
#2234 [15:55] <cbroughton> Welcome Shephi
#2235 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> lio - You can try turning down the graphics levels via options
#2236 [15:55] <Apoca> Are there any mods out there that increase the frequency of iron? e-e
#2237 [15:55] <lio> but i have a decent computer which is why i dont understand the lag I set the grpahics on fast and distance to normal
#2238 [15:55] <arnem> aybody plays portal
#2239 [15:55] <arnem> ??????_
#2240 [15:55] <Kealper> Shephi: you are not launching the minecraft.jar from the .minecraft\bin folder, are you?
#2241 [15:55] <Kurosak_Ichigo> So im guessing im screwed?
#2242 [15:55] <Kurosak_Ichigo> Since there is no way to fix this
#2243 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Kurosak_Ichigo - There is a way, just send an email to support@mojang.com
#2244 [15:56] <cbroughton> lio: I have to use Fast / Tiny / Frame Limiter: Off / Advanced OpenGL: Off / 3D Analgryph: Off and it still lags.
#2245 [15:56] <arnem> kealper i uses batch to run minecraft somtimes to check
#2246 [15:56] <cbroughton> lio: This is on a Crysis level computer :/
#2247 [15:56] <arnem> i play minecraft, portal, zombiecraft
#2248 [15:56] <Kealper> arnem: that will not help in this case, he already knows the error it gives
#2249 [15:56] <Apoca> Crysis on low graphics? e-e
#2250 [15:56] <cbroughton> Apoca: I can play Crysis on MAX :/
#2251 [15:57] <Apoca> And your computer lags in minecraft? o.0
#2252 [15:57] <Kealper> cbroughton: uhh....my computer plays crysis just fine and i can max Minecraft's settings just fine
#2253 [15:57] <arnem> kealper i uses batch to find my fails at my minecraft
#2254 [15:57] <cbroughton> Apoca: Minecraft is just that crap, especially with ATI's horrible OpenGL support.
#2255 [15:57] <Shephi> i can play now, thx everybody :)
#2256 [15:57] <cbroughton> Not minecraft's fault that ATI hates OpenGL
#2257 [15:57] <arnem> it is realy helpfull!!!!
#2258 [15:57] <Kealper> i also have an ati card
#2259 [15:57] <Shephi> but strange, "pixelformat error" doesnt exist now :D
#2260 [15:57] <cbroughton> Kealper: You're lucky :/
#2261 [15:57] <cbroughton> Shephi: It happens.
#2262 [15:57] <Apoca> :O
#2263 [15:57] <VoxelHead> Well i never.
#2264 [15:57] <cbroughton> Shephi: Minecraft should also run loads faster now, due to 256M ram heap.
#2265 [15:57] <arnem> i got 1 tb
#2266 [15:57] <Apoca> I've never played crysis :S
#2267 [15:58] <Kealper> i'd probably consider it more to be you are unlucky >.>
#2268 [15:58] <arnem> 1 tera :D
#2269 [15:58] <MLoeven> is minecraft multithreaded ???
#2270 [15:58] <Kealper> MLoeven: no
#2271 [15:58] <Shephi> cbroughton but using loader 1.5 send me pixel format error, very strange
#2272 [15:58] <MLoeven> that would make it ru na bit faster on my laptop
#2273 [15:58] <cbroughton> Shephi: 1.5 is crap, still very buggy.
#2274 [15:58] <arnem> brb
#2275 [15:58] <cbroughton> Shephi: Give it a week :/
#2276 [15:58] <cbroughton> MLoeven: That would be nice....
#2277 [15:59] <Shephi> 1.5 is a bad update?
#2278 [15:59] <cbroughton> Shephi: 1.5_01 you could sneeze and it would crash.
#2279 [16:00] <cbroughton> Shephi: No idea about 1.5 itself.
#2280 [16:00] <Shephi> already 1.5_01??? lol
#2281 [16:00] <Kealper> cbroughton: 1.5_01 crashes were from the server
#2282 [16:00] <Kealper> cbroughton: 1.5_02 server version fixed that
#2283 [16:00] <lio> ok well thanks everyone I ll go from there thanks Grey Vulpine particularly you were awesome!
#2284 [16:00] <Apoca> I haven't had any crashes
#2285 [16:00] <cbroughton> Kealper: Single player in 1.5_## is horrible.
#2286 [16:00] * GreyVulpine waves
#2286 [16:00] <cbroughton> Kealper: I will say at least the FPS is up.
#2287 [16:00] <Apoca> only problem I had was once when I got stuck in my bed :S
#2288 [16:00] <Kealper> seems to work fine for me
#2289 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> 1.5 works fine in SP for me as well
#2290 [16:01] <Morrolan> Apoca: I have that every morning. :D
#2291 [16:01] <Shephi> well, thx for help cbroughton, bye :)
#2292 [16:01] <Apoca> so I had to close the client and reopen :S
#2293 [16:01] <Apoca> lol
#2294 [16:01] * Kealper goes back to updating AuBot's mchelp module
#2294 [16:01] * MLoeven is now away - Reason : getting food
#2294 [16:02] <Morrolan> Nice of you to tell us all. :)
#2295 [16:02] <bread> HMM
#2296 [16:02] * Kealper seriously hopes that MLoeven did not just use an auto away script
#2296 [16:02] <cbroughton> Kealper: Mind if I bring my PyBot in here? (It's silent and notices only to authed users for the moment.)
#2297 [16:02] <bread> MLoeven, fire phasers at Morrolan
#2298 [16:02] <bread> GUESS NOT
#2299 [16:02] <bread> lol
#2300 [16:03] <cbroughton> I was bored, so am making my own python bot for stuff like this.
#2301 [16:03] <Kealper> cbroughton: that's up to GreyVulpine, but i'd have to say no, we already have enough bots in here
#2302 [16:03] <Apoca> Is it possible to find decently priced hosting for minecraft for a server that can have 60-70 people on it simultaneously? And if so, at around what price per month/3-month period?
#2303 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Unless it did something phenomenally unique, no.
#2304 [16:03] <Morrolan> Oh btw, some hours ago Voxelhead got kicked by AuBot :D
#2305 [16:03] <cbroughton> Apoca: Nope.
#2306 [16:03] <AG_Scott> At 70 players, you'll need a dedicated server.
#2307 [16:03] <cbroughton> GreyVulpine: I've made it myself, so what do you want from it :)
#2308 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> We have way too many bots in here as it is
#2309 [16:03] <cbroughton> GreyVulpine: How about the ability to connect to servers, actually CONNECT and see if they work? :)
#2310 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Can it make me a margarita?
#2311 [16:03] <VoxelHead> Let me check your horoscope.
#2312 [16:04] <Kealper> !check smp.shadow-craft.net
#2313 [16:04] * bread hugs vox
#2313 [16:04] <cbroughton> VoxelHead: Sad part is I could do that with an api.
#2314 [16:04] <Kealper> like that?
#2315 [16:04] <VoxelHead> *uNf
#2316 [16:04] <cbroughton> Kealper: That just seems to ping, doesn't actualy log in.
#2317 [16:04] <cbroughton> (of course I don't know, as I didn't write it.)
#2318 [16:04] <Morrolan> cbroughton: You'll have troubles with whitelisted servers though.
#2319 [16:05] <cbroughton> Morrolan: It can detect that, I'll just use my PyMC backend.
#2320 [16:05] <cbroughton> Morrolan: I made it a while back as a linux minecraft client :D Very fun to use.
#2321 [16:05] <Kealper> it opens a tcp connection to that address on the port specified (defaults to 25565), but other than that, no it does not actually try handshaking with the server
#2322 [16:05] <cbroughton> Morrolan: It's like " Suddenly, minecraft is a MUD. "
#2323 [16:05] <AG_Scott> linux minecraft client?
#2324 [16:05] <Doomedweapon> ok so i guess gravel has no use besides flint?
#2325 [16:05] <AG_Scott> WHY?
#2326 [16:05] <AG_Scott> Java is cross-platform.
#2327 [16:05] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: Yes, commandline, not desktop.
#2328 [16:05] <dopeghoti> cbroughton: it does more than ping, it establishes a TCP connection to the proper port
#2329 [16:05] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: Again, not desktop.
#2330 [16:06] <dopeghoti> granted, that's not much _more_ than ping
#2331 [16:06] <cbroughton> dopeghoti: As Kealper said, it doesn't handshake or check if people can actually connect.
#2332 [16:06] <dopeghoti> but to actually log in, someone would have to buy the bot an account to authenticate against (:
#2333 [16:06] <dopeghoti> Doomedweapon: scaffolding; garden paths?
#2334 [16:06] <VoxelHead> basically, do you have any taquitos?
#2335 [16:06] * VoxelHead is away: yo mamma
#2335 [16:06] <bread> LOL
#2336 [16:06] <Kealper> ll
#2337 [16:06] <bread> <3 vox
#2338 [16:06] <Kealper> lol
#2339 [16:07] <cbroughton> I mean, if you want it, I'll write it. I'm just bored.
#2340 [16:07] <cbroughton> dopeghoti: I have accounts, lol.
#2341 [16:07] <Kealper> just checking that a service is accepting a connection is good enough for the most part, as it's primary use is to be used as a port checking tool for forwarding
#2342 [16:08] <cbroughton> Kealper: I just thought of it, since people keep asking " Can you join my server? "
#2343 [16:08] <bread> !check 71.171.202.149:59376
#2344 [16:08] <bread> :>
#2345 [16:10] <cbroughton> Even then...
#2346 [16:10] <cbroughton> !check google.com:80
#2347 [16:10] <cbroughton> Lol, it's not minecraft, but it works :P
#2348 [16:10] <AG_Scott> !check 192.168.0.1:80
#2349 [16:10] <AG_Scott> :(
#2350 [16:10] <AG_Scott> dammit
#2351 [16:10] <cbroughton> !check 10.0.0.5
#2352 [16:10] <Apoca> !check Hell:66600
#2353 [16:10] <cbroughton> Oh, it knows all local ranges :)
#2354 [16:11] <AG_Scott> I wanted to mess with Kealper's router.
#2355 [16:11] <Kealper> psh
#2356 [16:11] <Apoca> :O
#2357 [16:11] <cbroughton> !check localhost.com:23
#2358 [16:11] <Kealper> .....lol
#2359 [16:11] <AG_Scott> !check 172.16.0.1
#2360 [16:11] <cbroughton> localhost.com used to ns as 127.0.0.1
#2361 [16:12] <AG_Scott> !check 172.16.32.53
#2362 [16:12] <Kealper> it wouldn't get past the local address check
#2363 [16:12] <Kealper> it resolves the name before it goes into the local address check
#2364 [16:12] <cbroughton> Hmmm
#2365 [16:12] <AG_Scott> !check 127.4.2.5
#2366 [16:12] <AG_Scott> LOL
#2367 [16:12] <Kealper> fail? lol
#2368 [16:13] <cbroughton> It shouldn't let 127.anything work Kealper
#2369 [16:13] <bread> lol
#2370 [16:13] * Kealper looks at that
#2370 [16:13] <cbroughton> The entire range is private :)
#2371 [16:13] <AG_Scott> You run a minecraft server on localhost?
#2372 [16:13] <Kealper> cbroughton: ya think?
#2373 [16:13] <AG_Scott> no it's not
#2374 [16:13] <AG_Scott> 127.0.0.0/8 is loopback
#2375 [16:13] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: Ahh, /8
#2376 [16:13] <AG_Scott> it is not RFC 1918
#2377 [16:13] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: Thought it was like 10 where it's an entire range.
#2378 [16:13] <cbroughton> !check ::1
#2379 [16:14] <Kealper> doesn't support v6
#2380 [16:14] <cbroughton> Kealper: Hmm, this could be fun..
#2381 [16:14] <cbroughton> !check 2001:968::COF:FEE
#2382 [16:15] <AG_Scott> cbroughton, that makes no sense.
#2383 [16:15] <cbroughton> Kealper: It still tries.
#2384 [16:15] <AG_Scott> <cbroughton> AG_Scott: Thought it was like 10 where it's an entire range.
#2385 [16:15] <Kealper> it's trying to resolve it as a domain name
#2386 [16:15] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: 10.x.x.x
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#2388 [16:15] <AG_Scott> 10.0.0.0/8 is a private range (aka RFC 1918).
#2389 [16:15] <AG_Scott> 127.0.0.0/8 is loopback.
#2390 [16:15] <cbroughton> Kealper: A catch for that perhaps?
#2391 [16:15] <AG_Scott> Any of the addresses in that /8 will all be localhost.
#2392 [16:15] <Kealper> cbroughton: can't be assed
#2393 [16:16] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: And yet my router sets 10.5.1.14 as my computer.
#2394 [16:16] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: I swear that's not /8.
#2395 [16:16] <AG_Scott> 127.0.0.0/8 is loopback
#2396 [16:16] <AG_Scott> not 10.0.0.0/8
#2397 [16:16] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: I'm not talking about loopback, just local addresses in general.
#2398 [16:17] <AG_Scott> you called it private
#2399 [16:17] <AG_Scott> that's incorrect terminology imo.
#2400 [16:17] <AG_Scott> private ip space is defined in RFC 1918
#2401 [16:17] <dopeghoti> cbroughton: the whole point of a /8 subnet is that it can be further broken down into smaller subnets within the /8 scope
#2402 [16:17] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: A local address (LAN) is private imo.
#2403 [16:17] <AG_Scott> It's not LAN.
#2404 [16:17] <AG_Scott> It's loopback.
#2405 [16:17] <dopeghoti> if your IP is 10.1.2.3/24, it's stil within the 10.0.0.0/8 scope
#2406 [16:17] * AG_Scott sighs.
#2406 [16:18] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: I wasn't saying it's loopback :/ I wasn't talking about loopback at all...
#2407 [16:18] <AG_Scott> you did too :P
#2408 [16:18] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: Lol, so that's why we were confused. You thought I said 10 was loopback -_-
#2409 [16:18] <AG_Scott> <cbroughton> It shouldn't let 127.anything work Kealper <cbroughton> The entire range is private :)
#2410 [16:18] <AG_Scott> no i didn't.
#2411 [16:18] <AG_Scott> private is defined in RFC 1918
#2412 [16:18] <cbroughton> Ahh, the range is loopback, fair enough then.
#2413 [16:19] <dopeghoti> well, truth by told, loopback is pretty darn private; it's just not 1918
#2414 [16:19] <dopeghoti> s/by/be/
#2415 [16:19] <AG_Scott> By definition of RFC 1918, it's not private though.
#2416 [16:19] <cbroughton> s/RFC 1918/semefaggotry/
#2417 [16:19] <dopeghoti> Correct.
#2418 [16:19] <cbroughton> :/
#2419 [16:19] * dopeghoti kicked cbroughton from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Do not use that sort of terminology here.)
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#2421 [16:20] <cbroughton> Was hardly anything else to compare it to :P
#2422 [16:20] * Kealper has that 127/8 issue fixed nao
#2422 [16:20] <cbroughton> RFC's are nice, when people listen to them (not often)
#2423 [16:20] <cbroughton> !check 127.255.255.255
#2424 [16:20] <dopeghoti> Tes, RFCs are directly comparable to invective, offensive terms for sexual preference. Riiight.
#2425 [16:20] <Kealper> i never said i pushed the update
#2426 [16:20] <dopeghoti> s/T/Y/
#2427 [16:20] <Kealper> i just said i fixed it >.>
#2428 [16:20] <cbroughton> Haha.
#2429 [16:20] <AG_Scott> Kealper, let me redo your messages :(
#2430 [16:20] <dopeghoti> fixed != implemented
#2431 [16:20] <Kealper> AG_Scott: go for it
#2432 [16:21] <AG_Scott> grab me the language file? o:
#2433 [16:21] <Kealper> it...doesn't have a language file lol
#2434 [16:21] <Razorflame> Anyone know how rare records are to find in dungeons?
#2435 [16:21] <Kealper> it's hardcoded
#2436 [16:21] <cbroughton> dopeghoti: the term "seme*" has nothing to do with the offensive term to do with homosexuality. Therein lies the confusion I suppose.
#2437 [16:21] <AG_Scott> faillll
#2438 [16:21] <AG_Scott> okay well hole on
#2439 [16:21] <AG_Scott> hold*
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#2441 [16:22] <AG_Scott> That looks like private address space (See RFC 1918) AG_Scott, but your external IP address is 173.255.201.4, give that one a try!
#2442 [16:22] <Kealper> ehh
#2443 [16:22] <AG_Scott> Just mention RFC 1918 :(
#2444 [16:22] <Kealper> not dumbed down enough
#2445 [16:22] <AG_Scott> I will hug you.
#2446 [16:22] <dopeghoti> AG_Scott: make the parenthetical an URL to said RFC (:
#2447 [16:22] <cbroughton> AG_Scott: Most people don't know what RFC is.
#2448 [16:23] <dopeghoti> cbroughton: then it's a teaching/learning opportunity
#2449 [16:23] <AG_Scott> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1918.txt
#2450 [16:23] <cbroughton> dopeghoti: I suppsoe.
#2451 [16:23] <cbroughton> dopeghoti: suppose *
#2452 [16:23] <Kealper> brainrot time
#2453 [16:23] <Kealper> If StringRegExp(StringLeft($sAddress, StringInStr($sAddress, ".", 0, 2) - 1), "192.168*.*|172.16.*.*|10.0.*.*|127.*.*.*") Then
#2454 [16:23] <cbroughton> brb, Time to pull the handshaking out of my client and move it into the bot.
#2455 [16:23] <dopeghoti> "Give a man a match, and he's warm for a few seconds; set a man on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life"?
#2456 [16:23] <Kealper> dopeghoti: XD
#2457 [16:23] <cbroughton> Kealper: 192.168.*.*
#2458 [16:24] <cbroughton> Not 192.168*.*
#2459 [16:24] <Kealper> derp
#2460 [16:24] <cbroughton> dopeghoti: Nice.
#2461 [16:24] <dopeghoti> also, 168.254.*.*
#2462 [16:24] <lemon-rev> hum, ok wtf is with the update ?
#2463 [16:24] <AG_Scott> Kealper, :((((
#2464 [16:24] <Kealper> if someone has a 168.254 address, then chances are they won't be in irc to check it
#2465 [16:24] <dopeghoti> also, 172.16.0.0 IIRc
#2466 [16:24] <cbroughton> lemon-rev: We are all asking the same question.
#2467 [16:24] <dopeghoti> I may be off with the subnet of the last one
#2468 [16:24] <AG_Scott> you need to display a different message for loopback
#2469 [16:25] <dopeghoti> oh, 172 is in there
#2470 [16:25] <AG_Scott> also, 192.168.*.*, 172.16.*.* to 172.31.*.*, and 10.*.*.*
#2471 [16:25] <Kealper> AG_Scott: i'm not really worried about terminology, the people who use this don't even know what an ip address is
#2472 [16:25] <dopeghoti> AG_Scott: and 169.254.0.0
#2473 [16:25] <Kealper> 172.31? O.o
#2474 [16:25] <AG_Scott> those are private, 127.*.*.* are all loop back
#2475 [16:26] <AG_Scott> 172.16.* to 172.31.*
#2476 [16:26] <AG_Scott> ie 172.24.34.54 is private
#2477 [16:26] <Kealper> 172.*.*.*? gotcha
#2478 [16:26] <AG_Scott> no
#2479 [16:26] <AG_Scott> only 16 to 31
#2480 [16:26] <AG_Scott> its a /12
#2481 [16:26] <Kealper> *.*.*.*
#2482 [16:27] <AG_Scott> you also only do 10.0.*.*, it should be 10.*.*.*
#2483 [16:27] <Kealper> bleh
#2484 [16:27] <Kealper> oh, didn't know 10 was an /8
#2485 [16:27] <Dpunkt> Hello, i would like to know if i there are powered start rails planned. so you can sit in a Minecart, push a button, and your driving around. At the moment i use door boosters to archive this, but this is not very nice...
#2486 [16:28] <Kealper> Dpunkt: the powered rails start cars
#2487 [16:28] <Dpunkt> if it stand still, nothing happens here
#2488 [16:28] <Kealper> the wiki page can probably explain it better than i
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#2492 [16:30] <AG_Scott> !check 255.255.255.255
#2493 [16:30] <AG_Scott> You need to exclude that too XD
#2494 [16:30] <AG_Scott> 255.*.*.*
#2495 [16:30] <Kealper> regex ninjas
#2496 [16:30] <Kealper> any of them here?
#2497 [16:31] <AG_Scott> assuming RFC 5735 is accurate, you're missing a lot
#2498 [16:31] <Kealper> screw the rfc
#2499 [16:31] <AG_Scott> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5735#section-4
#2500 [16:31] <Kealper> it works for what we need it for
#2501 [16:31] <Dpunkt> awe
#2502 [16:31] <AG_Scott> I am OCD about accuracy :(
#2503 [16:32] <Dpunkt> thanks - RTFM to myself
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#2505 [16:36] <Inundated> Can anyone help me with my problem?
#2506 [16:37] <Kealper> depends what you problem is
#2507 [16:37] <Inundated> Well, when I open Minecraft
#2508 [16:37] <Inundated> It says
#2509 [16:37] <Inundated> Cannot create the Java virtual machine
#2510 [16:37] <Kealper> has it ever worked before?
#2511 [16:37] <Inundated> Yeah
#2512 [16:37] <Inundated> Befpre
#2513 [16:37] <Inundated> Before
#2514 [16:38] <Kealper> have you restarted your computer?
#2515 [16:38] <Inundated> I didn't play for a while because of school and all, but then when I tried to play it, that message popped up
#2516 [16:38] <Inundated> Yes
#2517 [16:38] <Inundated> I've reinstalled Java
#2518 [16:38] <Kealper> how much ram does the computer have?
#2519 [16:38] <Inundated> 4gb
#2520 [16:39] <Inundated> Nvidia Geforce 9800m gs
#2521 [16:39] <Inundated> for graphics
#2522 [16:39] <Inundated> And Intel Core 2 Duo
#2523 [16:39] <Inundated> I don't think there's a problem with the specs
#2524 [16:39] <Kealper> hmm...
#2525 [16:39] <Kealper> no, those should run it fine...
#2526 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> How exactly did you reinstall java?
#2527 [16:39] <Kealper> are you running it through the browser or the client?
#2528 [16:39] <Inundated> Client
#2529 [16:39] <Inundated> Browser works fine
#2530 [16:40] <Inundated> But I want to run mods and such
#2531 [16:40] <Inundated> And sometimes I need to play offline
#2532 [16:40] <Kealper> hmm...
#2533 [16:40] <Inundated> I uninstalled Java through add/remove
#2534 [16:40] <Inundated> Then downloaded the newest version through the site
#2535 [16:40] <Kealper> Inundated: download the .jar that aubot is about to link
#2536 [16:40] <Kealper> !client
#2537 [16:41] <Inundated> all right
#2538 [16:42] <Inundated> I tried to use it
#2539 [16:42] <Inundated> Still the same error
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#2541 [16:42] <Kealper> where is it downloaded to? did you move it somewhere else where it won't get bothered or is it in your downloads folder?
#2542 [16:42] <Inundated> Nope, moved it to a seperate folder
#2543 [16:43] <Kealper> good, in that separate folder, right click and make a new text document
#2544 [16:43] <Inundated> Ah, should I create a bat
#2545 [16:43] <Kealper> say when you have done that and you have it open in Notepad or something similar
#2546 [16:43] <Kealper> Inundated: yes
#2547 [16:44] <Kealper> in that bat file, put java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2548 [16:45] <Kealper> then save, and run the bat file
#2549 [16:45] <Inundated> not working
#2550 [16:45] <Kealper> still saying the same thing?
#2551 [16:45] <Inundated> No
#2552 [16:45] <Inundated> It quickly pops up with cmd
#2553 [16:45] <Inundated> then closes
#2554 [16:46] <Inundated> nothing happens afterward
#2555 [16:46] <Kealper> hmm....you don't have java in your path variable...ok then, what OS are you on?
#2556 [16:46] <Kealper> and by OS i mean version of windows lol
#2557 [16:46] <Inundated> Yeah, I know
#2558 [16:46] <Inundated> Windows 7 x64
#2559 [16:46] <Inundated> Ultimate
#2560 [16:46] <Kealper> go to your start menu search and type env
#2561 [16:47] <Kealper> first thing that comes up should be Edit enviroment variables for your account or something
#2562 [16:47] <Kealper> click that
#2563 [16:47] <Kealper> then say when the Enviroment Variables window comse up
#2564 [16:47] <Kealper> comes*
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#2566 [16:49] <Inundated> Yeah
#2567 [16:49] <Inundated> It came
#2568 [16:49] <Kealper> see the top box that says stuff like TEMP and TMP in it?
#2569 [16:49] <Inundated> Yep
#2570 [16:49] <Kealper> is there one called PATH?
#2571 [16:49] <Inundated> No
#2572 [16:49] <Kealper> ok, click the New button right under that then
#2573 [16:49] <Inundated> k
#2574 [16:49] <Kealper> the name should be PATH
#2575 [16:50] <Inundated> k
#2576 [16:50] <Kealper> the value should be C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#2577 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> (if you installed the 32-bit version of java)
#2578 [16:50] <Inundated> k
#2579 [16:50] <Inundated> Do I press OK
#2580 [16:50] <Kealper> yes
#2581 [16:51] <Kealper> now, open a cmd window
#2582 [16:51] <Inundated> It works :)
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#2584 [16:51] <Kealper> oh, it launched the game fine?
#2585 [16:51] <Inundated> yep
#2586 [16:51] <Kealper> fair enough lol
#2587 [16:51] <Inundated> Do I have to use the bat file?
#2588 [16:51] <Inundated> Or is the jar ok
#2589 [16:52] <Kealper> you don't have to, you could create a shortcut that has the same stuff as the bat file does
#2590 [16:52] <Inundated> Do you know why the exe file doesn't work?
#2591 [16:52] <Kealper> but it seems like your java is not wanting to allocate a full 1gb of ram to the game for some reason
#2592 [16:52] <Inundated> Do you know how I can fix that?
#2593 [16:52] <Inundated> I just don't feel too comfortable using the bat :p
#2594 [16:53] <Kealper> well....if your computer has 4gb of ram installed, i really don't know why it won't let it allocate 1gb of ram to minecraft
#2595 [16:54] <Inundated> !client
#2596 [16:58] <Inundated> ugh
#2597 [16:58] <Inundated> I'm playing with the bat file at extremely slow speeds
#2598 [16:58] <Kealper> O.o
#2599 [16:58] <Kealper> as in everything is choppy and such?
#2600 [16:59] * MLoeven is no longer away : Gone for 57 minutes 16 seconds
#2600 [16:59] <Kealper> MLoeven: please don't use autoafk scripts in here
#2601 [16:59] <Inundated> Yeah
#2602 [16:59] <Inundated> I have to play on Tiny
#2603 [17:00] <Inundated> With lag
#2604 [17:00] <Inundated> XD
#2605 [17:00] <Kealper> sorry if this sounds....rude or condescending
#2606 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> ... with your system's specs?
#2607 [17:00] <Kealper> but are you sure you are using the computer you think you are?
#2608 [17:00] <Inundated> Yes
#2609 [17:00] <Inundated> For sure
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#2611 [17:01] <Inundated> I can usually play on far with 30+ fps
#2612 [17:01] * Kealper raises his eyebrow
#2612 [17:01] * bread lowers Kealper's eyebrows.
#2612 [17:01] <Kealper> :<
#2613 [17:01] <bread> :>
#2614 [17:02] * NotiCon steals Kealper's eyebrows
#2614 [17:02] <Kealper> :O
#2615 [17:02] <Inundated> hmm
#2616 [17:02] <Inundated> I think I just may know the problem
#2617 [17:02] * NotiCon puts the stolen eyebrows on VoxelHead
#2617 [17:03] <Kealper> dang, i was really hoping vox would have said something to that lol
#2618 [17:03] <Inundated> my file extensions are a bit messed up
#2619 [17:03] <Inundated> because
#2620 [17:03] <NotiCon> Kealper: same :(
#2621 [17:03] <Inundated> for some reason
#2622 [17:03] <Inundated> hide extensions for known file types is not checked
#2623 [17:04] <Kealper> Inundated: i doubt that is going to mess anything up.....
#2624 [17:04] <Inundated> Well
#2625 [17:04] <Inundated> Before, I had it checked
#2626 [17:04] <Inundated> And it worked
#2627 [17:05] <Inundated> But now it's off
#2628 [17:05] <Inundated> And it doesn't work
#2629 [17:05] <Inundated> But yeah, you're right
#2630 [17:05] <Inundated> Doesn't mess anything up
#2631 [17:05] <Kealper> if you re-enable it, and it fixes the issue...i'll kick myself from this channel lol
#2632 [17:06] <Inundated> no need
#2633 [17:06] <Inundated> lol
#2634 [17:06] <Inundated> doesn't work
#2635 [17:06] * Kealper stays to spam another day!
#2635 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Drats.
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#2637 [17:10] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2638 [17:10] <Kealper> http://example.com
#2639 [17:10] <Kealper> AuBot: show me that last url
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#2641 [17:10] * Kealper rages
#2641 [17:10] <NotiCon> silly
#2642 [17:11] <DarkWay> anyone having trouble with the server side client crashing? :(
#2643 [17:11] <Kealper> DarkWay: update your server to 1.5_02
#2644 [17:12] <Kealper> asdf disregard this url http://example.com asdhdfad fsd
#2645 [17:12] <DarkWay> hmm thought we'd already done that =/ I'll double check
#2646 [17:12] <Kealper> AuBot: get the title of that url
#2647 [17:12] <Kealper> hmmmm.....
#2648 [17:13] <NotiCon> it dislikes your urls
#2649 [17:13] <Kealper> oh....fail....
#2650 [17:13] * Kealper removes that debug line
#2650 [17:13] <Inundated> ugh minecraft's down
#2651 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> It is?
#2652 [17:14] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2653 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#2654 [17:14] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2655 [17:14] <Kealper> http://example.com
#2656 [17:14] <Inundated> k
#2657 [17:14] <Kealper> AuBot: give me the last link please
#2658 [17:15] <Kealper> ok, hard stuff is done, now to just have it get the source of the page and put the title in there
#2659 [17:15] <Inundated> What are the chances of this: I ping minecraft.net, and it works just as you post It's just you.
#2660 [17:15] <Kealper> O.o
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#2662 [17:18] <Inundated> oh great, now the bat doesn't work
#2663 [17:18] <Kealper> ?? win/dxdiag
#2664 [17:18] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2665 [17:18] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2666 [17:19] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2667 [17:19] <Kealper> ok, let's see if this works... http://minecraft.net
#2668 [17:20] <Kealper> AuBot: fetch that url
#2669 [17:20] <Kealper> :<
#2670 [17:20] * NotiCon awaits AuBot pinging
#2670 [17:20] <Kealper> http://www.minecraft.net
#2671 [17:21] <Kealper> AuBot: get that url?
#2672 [17:21] <Kealper> hmm
#2673 [17:21] <Kealper> doesn't play nice with redirects
#2674 [17:21] <NotiCon> cause it dont get redirected
#2675 [17:22] * Kealper has no desire to make it parse redirects
#2675 [17:22] <NotiCon> why are you making this thingy again?
#2676 [17:23] <Kealper> bored
#2677 [17:23] <NotiCon> oic
#2678 [17:23] <NotiCon> ill go sleep then and you can hf at being bored D:
#2679 [17:23] <Kealper> :<
#2680 [17:23] <NotiCon> need to be up in 9 hours or so
#2681 [17:24] <NotiCon> guess 9 hours sleep would be neat
#2682 [17:24] <NotiCon> anyhow o/
#2683 [17:24] <Inundated> http://pastebin.com/vChaAEQw
#2684 [17:24] * Kealper waves _o/
#2684 [17:24] <Kealper> for craps and grins, aubot get the title of that link
#2685 [17:24] <Kealper> \o/
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#2687 [17:25] <Kealper> a laptop?
#2688 [17:25] <Inundated> Yep
#2689 [17:25] <Kealper> wow....that's a decent laptop lol
#2690 [17:26] <Inundated> I got it for discount
#2691 [17:26] <Inundated> 700$
#2692 [17:26] <Kealper> i really don't know why it isn't playing the game right...
#2693 [17:26] <Inundated> refurbished though
#2694 [17:26] <Kealper> it should be way more than enough
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#2696 [17:26] <Inundated> yeah
#2697 [17:26] <Inundated> It's strange
#2698 [17:26] <Inundated> Because it worked before
#2699 [17:27] <Inundated> wait a second
#2700 [17:27] <Inundated> let me try something
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#2705 [17:37] <Io> Excuse me, I've been having a strange issue... When I'm on the main menu of Minecraft, and I want to choose one of my 16x texture packs like Painterly or Jolicraft, clicking the "mods and texture packs" button crashes my minecraft. It's been doing this since the 1.3 update but I've been ignoring it...
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#2707 [17:38] <Inundated> All right
#2708 [17:38] <Inundated> The exe works perfectly now
#2709 [17:38] <Kealper> Io: are you using any mods?
#2710 [17:38] <Kealper> Inundated: what did you do?
#2711 [17:38] <Inundated> Deleted Bitdefender
#2712 [17:38] <Kealper> O.o
#2713 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> ... wow
#2714 [17:39] * GreyVulpine makes a note to never use that
#2714 [17:39] <Kealper> yeah, that's what i was thinking lol...
#2715 [17:40] <dopeghoti> Io: out-of-date texture pack.
#2716 [17:40] <dopeghoti> Io: remove it.
#2717 [17:40] <Io> No, I'm not using any mods. I started using a 32x texture pack after the issue started because it used mcpatcher. But right now I have a fresh Minecraft.jar
#2718 [17:40] <dopeghoti> 32x texture packs _are_ mods.
#2719 [17:40] <Io> but the issue started before i used the 32x pack
#2720 [17:40] <Io> i used the pack because of the issue
#2721 [17:40] <dopeghoti> regular, zipfile-in-the-supported-directory texture packs _also_ need up be updated for 1.5
#2722 [17:41] <dopeghoti> try running without and texture pack whatsoever
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#2724 [17:44] <Io> okay yeah, taking the copy of Jolicraft I had in there worked. The texture pack I had in there was up to date though, so I'm confused
#2725 [17:44] <mermi> can anyone please let me know how to find minecraft 1.5 survival servers?
#2726 [17:44] <Io> and then after it started working i put the same texture pack in again and it still works... confusing!
#2727 [17:44] <Kealper> O.o
#2728 [17:44] <Kealper> weird
#2729 [17:45] <Kealper> mermi: most major servers should be updated by now
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#2731 [17:45] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2732 [17:46] <Kealper> right then
#2733 [17:46] <mermi> thanks Kealper.. the servers list on minecraft.ne doesnt seem to have any survival servers though :/
#2734 [17:46] <mermi> All I find is free-build
#2735 [17:46] <dopeghoti> ??> mermi smp/servers
#2736 [17:46] <VoxelHead> mermi: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2737 [17:46] <VoxelHead> mermi: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2738 [17:46] <Kealper> ninja'd >:(
#2739 [17:46] <mermi> thanks a lot dopeghoti
#2740 [17:46] <Io> anways, thanks for the help
#2741 [17:46] <dopeghoti> Kealper: My ninja skills are fresh, what with the Mortal Kombat release and all
#2742 [17:46] <Io> now I can play with Jolicraft again
#2743 [17:46] <dopeghoti> Io: have fun!
#2744 [17:46] <Kealper> dopeghoti: fair enough
#2745 [17:47] <Kealper> so anyways...if someone wants to see the title of the last url put into the channel, just direct the question to
#2746 [17:48] <Kealper> aubot, trying to to hilight it lol
#2747 [17:48] <dopeghoti> aubot, what was that URL to?
#2748 [17:48] <dopeghoti> Kealper: no worky.
#2749 [17:48] * bread pokes AuBot
#2749 [17:48] <bread> :D
#2750 [17:48] <Kealper> oh crap, forgot to set the case insensitivity flag
#2751 [17:48] <Kealper> now....how does one do this on pcre.....
#2752 [17:49] <dopeghoti> [:alpha:] ?
#2753 [17:50] <Kealper> ahh
#2754 [17:50] <Kealper> ?i
#2755 [17:50] <Kealper> !load mod_pcre
#2756 [17:50] <Kealper> !pattern ?iasdf
#2757 [17:50] <Kealper> !test AsDf
#2758 [17:50] <Kealper> hmm...
#2759 [17:52] <dopeghoti> (?i)asdf
#2760 [17:52] <dopeghoti> ^ try that
#2761 [17:52] <Kealper> yeah
#2762 [17:52] <Kealper> just did it in mcbots lol
#2763 [17:54] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2764 [17:54] <Kealper> http://asdf.com
#2765 [17:54] <Kealper> AUBOT! URL TITLE GET PLS
#2766 [17:54] <Kealper> :<
#2767 [17:55] <Kealper> well, looks like the insensitivity flag works lol
#2768 [17:55] <dopeghoti> http://www.example.com
#2769 [17:55] <dopeghoti> AuBot: the uRl is?
#2770 [17:56] * dopeghoti waits
#2770 [17:56] <Kealper> needs another keyword, the one to tell it to get it
#2771 [17:56] <dopeghoti> AuBot: get the frelling URL please
#2772 [17:56] <Kealper> hmm
#2773 [17:56] <dopeghoti> also..
#2774 [17:56] <Kealper> i broke it methinks
#2775 [17:56] <dopeghoti> we _have_ the URL
#2776 [17:56] <dopeghoti> 'get the url' makes no sense
#2777 [17:56] <dopeghoti> s/url/title/
#2778 [17:56] <Kealper> it doesn't have to be that
#2779 [17:57] <dopeghoti> AuBot: get
#2780 [17:57] <mermi> are all survival servers flood survival? What are the zombie survival ones called?
#2781 [17:57] <dopeghoti> mermi: er, what?
#2782 [17:57] <Kealper> uhh
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#2784 [17:57] <Kealper> what?
#2785 [17:57] <mermi> well I just joined an SMP server and there's water everywhere, it keeps rising
#2786 [17:57] <Kealper> O.o
#2787 [17:57] <Kealper> address? lol
#2788 [17:57] <dopeghoti> sounds moddish
#2789 [17:57] <mermi> 69.64.68.150:25565
#2790 [17:58] <mermi> I remember about two months ago the only survival servers I could find were lava and water survival.. thought that was still the case
#2791 [17:58] <mermi> I'm just looking for a server like single player, except multi :p
#2792 [17:58] <dopeghoti> mermi: that's what survival multiplayer is
#2793 [17:59] <dopeghoti> sounds like you were describing a metagame from classic servers back in the day
#2794 [17:59] <mermi> Oh I see
#2795 [17:59] <Kealper> dopeghoti: that's what i thought too lol
#2796 [17:59] <mermi> I guess it's just filled with lamers then
#2797 [17:59] <dopeghoti> and, apparently, water.
#2798 [17:59] <mermi> anyone recommend a good server without griefers?
#2799 [17:59] <mermi> yea lol
#2800 [17:59] <dopeghoti> ?? smp/servers
#2801 [17:59] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2802 [17:59] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2803 [18:00] <mermi> yeah I saw those links, just wanted to know if anyone would recommend one specific server
#2804 [18:00] <Kealper> uhh
#2805 [18:00] <mermi> thanks though, appreciate your help
#2806 [18:00] <Kealper> smp.shadow-craft.net if you wanted a fairly decent big-ish server
#2807 [18:00] <mermi> cool thanks a million
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#2810 [18:02] <Kealper> AuBot: what was the title of that last link?
#2811 [18:02] <Kealper> hmm...looks like i did break it
#2812 [18:02] <gPad2002> Mine does titles
#2813 [18:03] <gPad2002> Sometimes they don't work though
#2814 [18:03] <gPad2002> ~speak
#2815 [18:03] <Racer> Is anybody experiencing a memory leak with the current minecraft version?
#2816 [18:03] <gPad2002> What link did you just test, Kealper?
#2817 [18:03] <Kealper> yeah but yours is like...all or nothing lol, i just wanted to ask a title if someone threw a youtube video or something in the chat
#2818 [18:03] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#2819 [18:03] <McPlusPlus> "Beta - Survival Servers - Minecraft Forums" at www.minecraftforum.net
#2820 [18:03] <dopeghoti> ??+ smp/servers/specific|Kealper would suggest smp.shadow-craft.net. Enjoy!
#2821 [18:03] <gPad2002> Mm, I can configure that
#2822 [18:03] <Kealper> dopeghoti: lol
#2823 [18:04] <gPad2002> ~stfu
#2824 [18:04] <gPad2002> I'm gonna build in an is.gd shortener too
#2825 [18:04] <gPad2002> At some point
#2826 [18:04] <Kealper> lol
#2827 [18:04] <gPad2002> I already went through the AIP
#2828 [18:04] <gPad2002> API*
#2829 [18:04] <gPad2002> All I need to do is keep a database of shortened links
#2830 [18:05] <Kealper> aubot normally has a !miniurl command, but it used my own url shortening service, and i ended up breaking that when i got my new server and have yet to fix it
#2831 [18:05] <Racer> Does anybody know if the current version of Minecraft has a problem with memory leak? Game just crashed on me, was using 1,400,000 memory in process tab
#2832 [18:05] <gPad2002> I presume that's in KB
#2833 [18:05] <Racer> megabytes
#2834 [18:05] <gPad2002> Whiich is like 140MB
#2835 [18:05] <gPad2002> Uh, no
#2836 [18:06] <Racer> it was using 80% of my memory.
#2837 [18:06] <gPad2002> The day you have 140GB of ram
#2838 [18:06] <gPad2002> Is one hell of a day
#2839 [18:06] <Racer> XD
#2840 [18:06] <Kealper> gPad2002: google.
#2841 [18:06] <gPad2002> Kealper: Google command?
#2842 [18:06] <gPad2002> Easy
#2843 [18:06] <Racer> that is 140,000,000 megabytes...
#2844 [18:06] <Racer> wait nvm
#2845 [18:06] <Kealper> gPad2002: no lol, i mean google servers
#2846 [18:06] <Racer> numbers -.-
#2847 [18:06] <gPad2002> ?
#2848 [18:07] <gPad2002> Oh
#2849 [18:07] <gPad2002> Right
#2850 [18:07] <gPad2002> No, incorrect
#2851 [18:07] <Kealper> google servers probably laugh at 140gb of ram lol
#2852 [18:07] <gPad2002> They don't
#2853 [18:07] <Kealper> orly?
#2854 [18:07] <gPad2002> Google servers are clusters of cheap PCs
#2855 [18:07] <Kealper> oh, true
#2856 [18:07] <gPad2002> Spliced together in a cloud
#2857 [18:07] <gPad2002> :P
#2858 [18:08] <Racer> Anyway, Minecraft + java were using about 1.2 gigabytes of my memory before it crashed. I am guessing nobody else is experiencing an issue with this?
#2859 [18:08] <gPad2002> Firefox uses up more than that for me
#2860 [18:08] <gPad2002> Granted, I have 8GB of ram, but..
#2861 [18:08] <Kealper> no, since it shouldn't be able to use more than 1gb of ram
#2862 [18:08] <Racer> Must be a random glitch then... I will test it.
#2863 [18:09] <gPad2002> Continue testing...
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#2865 [18:10] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2866 [18:10] <Kealper> http://asdf.com
#2867 [18:10] <gPad2002> Lol
#2868 [18:10] <Kealper> AuBot: get url title
#2869 [18:11] <Kealper> ok
#2870 [18:11] <Kealper> had to figure out which check was failing lol
#2871 [18:11] <gPad2002> Brb
#2872 [18:11] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#2873 [18:11] <Kealper> AuBot: get url title
#2874 [18:11] <Kealper> ok, so that is the issue
#2875 [18:11] * Kealper fixes
#2875 [18:13] <Kealper> aha!
#2876 [18:13] <Kealper> forgot a "Not"
#2877 [18:13] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2878 [18:14] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025
#2879 [18:14] <Kealper> ok aubot, get that link's title
#2880 [18:15] <gPad2002> Win
#2881 [18:15] <gPad2002> Do you parse HTTP errors, Kealper?
#2882 [18:15] <Kealper> nah
#2883 [18:15] <Kealper> lol
#2884 [18:15] <gPad2002> ~speak
#2885 [18:15] <gPad2002> http://minecraftfroums.net/thisdoesnotexist
#2886 [18:15] <gPad2002> >.>
#2887 [18:16] <gPad2002> Oh derp
#2888 [18:16] <gPad2002> http://minecraftfroum.net/thisdoesnotexist
#2889 [18:16] <McPlusPlus> "minecraftfroum.net" at minecraftfroum.net
#2890 [18:16] <gPad2002> Lol
#2891 [18:16] <gPad2002> They have no 404 status code
#2892 [18:16] <Kealper> AuBot: url title get!
#2893 [18:16] <Kealper> oh
#2894 [18:16] <Kealper> fail
#2895 [18:17] <gPad2002> http://pageserved.com/surelythisisnthere
#2896 [18:17] <McPlusPlus> HTTP Error 404: Not Found (pageserved.com)
#2897 [18:17] <Kealper> lol
#2898 [18:17] <gPad2002> It takes pretty well all error codes
#2899 [18:17] <gPad2002> However, there is a problem
#2900 [18:17] <gPad2002> It doesn't use a GET
#2901 [18:17] <gPad2002> It spoofs firefox, and uses a POST
#2902 [18:17] <Kealper> yeah aubot will just say that it doesn't have a title
#2903 [18:17] <gPad2002> So that causes problem
#2904 [18:17] <gPad2002> s*
#2905 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#2906 [18:17] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2907 [18:18] <gPad2002> Just make it parse a 404
#2908 [18:18] <gPad2002> And stop it going through ten redirects
#2909 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2910 [18:18] <Kealper> oh, i should send a user agent lol
#2911 [18:18] <gPad2002> I send firefox
#2912 [18:18] <gPad2002> Because sites like wikipedia block them
#2913 [18:18] <gPad2002> http://wikipedia.org
#2914 [18:18] <McPlusPlus> "Wikipedia" at wikipedia.org
#2915 [18:18] <Kealper> hmm
#2916 [18:18] <gPad2002> AuBot: URL title get!
#2917 [18:18] <gPad2002> Hm
#2918 [18:19] <gPad2002> You're already sending one
#2919 [18:19] <Kealper> yeah it's sending one, but it's a ghetto one
#2920 [18:19] <gPad2002> If wikipedia likes it
#2921 [18:19] <Kealper> i meant sent one that looks like a browser lol
#2922 [18:19] <gPad2002> I think you're safe
#2923 [18:19] <Kealper> i know this one will fail on aubot and pass on yours
#2924 [18:19] <gPad2002> Go on
#2925 [18:19] <Kealper> lemme get it
#2926 [18:20] <Kealper> http://www.joymax.com/silkroad/
#2927 [18:20] <McPlusPlus> "JOYMAX.COM - Global Hub of Fun :: SilkroadOnline" at www.joymax.com
#2928 [18:20] <LordTrevor> !paid notch
#2929 [18:20] * AuBot kicked LordTrevor from #minecrafthelp (Reason: notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#2930 [18:20] <Kealper> aubot, get that title please
#2931 [18:20] <gPad2002> AuBot: URL title get!
#2932 [18:20] <gPad2002> Lol.
#2933 [18:20] <Kealper> wow, maybe i already set the user agent?
#2934 [18:20] <gPad2002> I don't think bitbucket works for me
#2935 [18:20] <gPad2002> https://bitbucket.com
#2936 [18:21] <gPad2002> It is .com right?
#2937 [18:21] <Kealper> idk
#2938 [18:21] <Kealper> aubot, what is the title to that page?
#2939 [18:21] <Kealper> :<
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#2941 [18:21] <Kealper> LordTrevor: :P
#2942 [18:21] <gPad2002> .org
#2943 [18:22] <gPad2002> https://bitbucket.org
#2944 [18:22] <McPlusPlus> HTTP Error 403: FORBIDDEN (bitbucket.org)
#2945 [18:22] <Kealper> lol
#2946 [18:22] <Kealper> AuBot: what's the title?
#2947 [18:22] <LordTrevor> Kealper : What?
#2948 [18:22] <gPad2002> See? :P
#2949 [18:22] <gPad2002> The POST messes it up
#2950 [18:22] <Kealper> oh lol
#2951 [18:22] <Kealper> LordTrevor: kicked for checking if Notch paid
#2952 [18:22] <Kealper> you fell into AuBot's trap >:D
#2953 [18:22] <gPad2002> Maybe I should use mechanise instead of urllib
#2954 [18:23] <LordTrevor> I thought i might have ghosted actually :P
#2955 [18:23] <gPad2002> :P
#2956 [18:23] <LordTrevor> Needed to see if I was
#2957 [18:23] <gPad2002> It would be nice if we could like
#2958 [18:23] <gPad2002> Consolidate all the bots
#2959 [18:24] <Kealper> in to one super-mega-bot? lol
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#2961 [18:24] <gPad2002> Yeah
#2962 [18:24] <gPad2002> It'd be great
#2963 [18:24] <gPad2002> And much less buggy if we all worked on it
#2964 [18:24] <Kealper> psh, buggy is awesome
#2965 [18:24] <gPad2002> Only if you have nothing else to do
#2966 [18:24] <gPad2002> :P
#2967 [18:24] <Kealper> exactly
#2968 [18:25] <Kealper> anywho, more Trine time
#2969 [18:25] <gPad2002> Trine ftw
#2970 [18:25] <gPad2002> You got the HFB too?
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#2972 [18:25] <Kealper> yeah
#2973 [18:25] <gPad2002> Also
#2974 [18:25] <gPad2002> What language is that written in?
#2975 [18:25] <Kealper> already beat Trine, but i'm playing it through on Very Hard mode lol
#2976 [18:25] <Kealper> aubot?
#2977 [18:26] <gPad2002> Yeah
#2978 [18:26] <Kealper> AutoIt
#2979 [18:26] <gPad2002> C?
#2980 [18:26] <gPad2002> Lolwut
#2981 [18:26] <gPad2002> How?
#2982 [18:26] <Kealper> i abuse that language on a daily basis lol
#2983 [18:26] <gPad2002> Surely that isn't possible :P
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#2985 [18:26] <Kealper> AutoIt is far more than just a "make cursor move" thing
#2986 [18:27] <gPad2002> Well yeah
#2987 [18:27] <gPad2002> It's for automating stuff
#2988 [18:27] <werwew19> would anyone on 1.4 like to help me get my server back on task with building? xD
#2989 [18:27] <Kealper> automating stuff is not all it does lol, it just does it better than other languages
#2990 [18:27] <Kealper> i'm using 1.5 :/
#2991 [18:27] <gPad2002> Shrug
#2992 [18:28] <werwew19> oh
#2993 [18:28] <gPad2002> I'll stick with my Python and C++
#2994 [18:28] <Kealper> lol
#2995 [18:28] <werwew19> there are ways to downgrade but i doubt you would want to :/
#2996 [18:28] <gPad2002> :P
#2997 [18:28] <Kealper> i tried Python, the tab to end things made me rage
#2998 [18:28] <gPad2002> Yeah it's annoying
#2999 [18:28] <gPad2002> Also don't use tabs
#3000 [18:28] <gPad2002> Use spaces
#3001 [18:28] <Kealper> yeah, 4 spaces or whatever
#3002 [18:28] <gPad2002> Helps if your editor indents for you
#3003 [18:28] <Kealper> still makes me rage lol
#3004 [18:28] <gPad2002> :P
#3005 [18:29] <Kealper> and IDLE is a horrid IDE
#3006 [18:29] <gPad2002> Yes it is
#3007 [18:29] <gPad2002> Notepad++ is my weapon of choice
#3008 [18:29] <Kealper> that's what i use for anything that isn't AutoIt lol
#3009 [18:29] <gPad2002> Most of my C++ work involves Qt
#3010 [18:30] <gPad2002> So i use Qt creator for that stuff
#3011 [18:30] <gPad2002> If it doesn't,
#3012 [18:30] <gPad2002> Code::blocks
#3013 [18:30] <nipper> http://www.break.com/index/cop-annoyed-with-slow-driver-2047158
#3014 [18:30] <gPad2002> AuBot: What's the title?
#3015 [18:30] <gPad2002> Kealper: Parse that.
#3016 [18:30] <nipper> lol
#3017 [18:30] <Kealper> while i was poking at C and C++, i was using CodeLite, it is decent
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#3019 [18:30] <Kealper> gPad2002: BAH
#3020 [18:31] <gPad2002> ~speak
#3021 [18:31] <gPad2002> http://www.break.com/index/cop-annoyed-with-slow-driver-2047158
#3022 [18:31] <gPad2002> ...
#3023 [18:31] <gPad2002> Goddamnit
#3024 [18:31] <gPad2002> :P
#3025 [18:31] <Kealper> lol
#3026 [18:31] <gPad2002> ~stfu
#3027 [18:31] <gPad2002> I have encoding problems
#3028 [18:31] <gPad2002> Also,
#3029 [18:31] <gPad2002> For some stupid fucking reason
#3030 [18:32] <gPad2002> Some titles contain /r/n
#3031 [18:32] <Kealper> i divide by zero when talking about encoding/decoding
#3032 [18:32] <Kealper> really? that's dumb
#3033 [18:32] <gPad2002> LU
#3034 [18:32] <gPad2002> LUL LETZ MAEK PRETTY CODE
#3035 [18:33] <Kealper> oh man, you should see the stuff that my AutoIt preprocessor spits out
#3036 [18:33] <gPad2002> It wanted to correct Letz to Letzeburgesch
#3037 [18:33] <Kealper> O.o
#3038 [18:33] <Kealper> lol
#3039 [18:34] <Kealper> oh...yeah i also abuse AutoIt in that way, too....i made a thing to use it like PHP XD
#3040 [18:35] <gPad2002> Colloquy died
#3041 [18:35] <gPad2002> ~dict Letzeburgesch 1
#3042 [18:35] <McPlusPlus> No definitions for "letzeburgesch".
#3043 [18:35] <gPad2002> Lol, like PHP?
#3044 [18:35] * gPad2002 shrugs
#3044 [18:35] <Kealper> <?au3 print("XD") ?> ftw
#3045 [18:36] <gPad2002> Lol.
#3046 [18:36] <gPad2002> Mad bastard :P
#3047 [18:36] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/irclogs
#3048 [18:36] <Kealper> i happen
#3049 [18:36] <gPad2002> AuBot: Get that title.
#3050 [18:36] <gPad2002> Win
#3051 [18:36] <gPad2002> :P
#3052 [18:36] <Kealper> lol
#3053 [18:37] <gPad2002> Nothing on that page
#3054 [18:37] <gPad2002> Lol
#3055 [18:37] <Kealper> one thing i have noticed though
#3056 [18:37] <Kealper> yeah, that
#3057 [18:37] <Kealper> refresh lol
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#3059 [18:37] <Kealper> i think it's sending too much data too fast to apache, so apache just gives it the middle finger
#3060 [18:38] <gPad2002> Such a huge log
#3061 [18:38] <Kealper> lol
#3062 [18:38] <gPad2002> That can't be healthy :P
#3063 [18:38] <Kealper> another thing that is inefficient is that it stores the log stuff inside it's own format, and it has to reparse the log file each time the page is requested
#3064 [18:39] <gPad2002> Ouch
#3065 [18:39] <Kealper> it works fine in small channels, but i didn't realize we talk this much in this channel lol
#3066 [18:39] <gPad2002> We could do better than that
#3067 [18:39] <gPad2002> Save the raw HTML directly to file
#3068 [18:39] <Kealper> yeah lol
#3069 [18:39] <gPad2002> And serve THAT
#3070 [18:40] <gPad2002> ~speak
#3071 [18:40] <Kealper> hmm
#3072 [18:40] <gPad2002> http://programming-motherfucker.com
#3073 [18:40] <McPlusPlus> "Programming, Motherfucker" at programming-motherfucker.com
#3074 [18:40] * Kealper tinkers with that page and throws some CRs and some LFs in there
#3074 [18:40] <gPad2002> ~stfu
#3075 [18:40] <gPad2002> :P
#3076 [18:40] <Kealper> lol
#3077 [18:43] <Kealper> hmm
#3078 [18:43] <Kealper> no, that didn't fix it...
#3079 [18:44] <gPad2002> :P
#3080 [18:44] <gPad2002> What I would do
#3081 [18:44] <Kealper> got it...lol
#3082 [18:44] <gPad2002> Is make a small PHP page
#3083 [18:44] <gPad2002> Which has wrapping for the raw HTML you shove in this file
#3084 [18:45] <gPad2002> Use that to serve the lies
#3085 [18:45] <gPad2002> The files*
#3086 [18:45] <Kealper> it was data faster than Apache could parse the data, so it would finish and close out before apache finished parsing and sending, and it would just stop where it was without going through the rest of the buffer
#3087 [18:45] <gPad2002> (cause you can't afford to edit the body/head tags every time
#3088 [18:45] <gPad2002> )
#3089 [18:45] <gPad2002> Hm, k
#3090 [18:45] <Kealper> yeah, this is not even generating much html at a time either
#3091 [18:46] <gPad2002> Get message
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#3093 [18:46] <gPad2002> HTML -> file
#3094 [18:46] <gPad2002> Get request
#3095 [18:46] <Kealper> the preprocessor can include other files, so i can include a header and a footer file that sets up and closes a lot of the html before it even needs to parse stiff
#3096 [18:46] <gPad2002> file -> PHP -> apache
#3097 [18:46] <Kealper> stuff*
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#3099 [18:47] <gPad2002> You should use a "real" language though
#3100 [18:47] <gPad2002> However
#3101 [18:47] <gPad2002> For IRC, C++ is a pain
#3102 [18:47] <gPad2002> Cause all the libraries suck
#3103 [18:47] <Kealper> AutoIt is no less of a real language than Python >.>
#3104 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> weird.. minecraft.net doesn't work, yet www.minecraft.net does?
#3105 [18:47] <gPad2002> I fail to see that
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#3107 [18:48] <gPad2002> http://minecraft.net
#3108 [18:48] <gPad2002> AuBot: I can has title?
#3109 [18:48] <gPad2002> Aw
#3110 [18:48] * bread pokes AuBot
#3110 [18:48] <gPad2002> AuBot: Get that title
#3111 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> No, I think mollstam is having problems with the site
#3112 [18:48] * bread pokes vox
#3112 [18:48] <Kealper> the problem with AutoIt is it has a stigma attached to it about being just something to type keys or move the cursor...which is totally not the case
#3113 [18:49] <gPad2002> I know that
#3114 [18:49] <Kealper> that url thing still follows the same flood protection as the rest of that module
#3115 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#3116 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/60835601439670272
#3117 [18:49] <gPad2002> But
#3118 [18:49] <gPad2002> The documentation
#3119 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> "I don't know what on earth is wrong. While I'm sleeping you can read up on 301 at http://t.co/zAxM5VR and go to minecraft.net WITH www."
#3120 [18:49] <gPad2002> Shows nothing like raw programming
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#3122 [18:49] <mib_3dktgp> Does anyone know where I can report an abuse?
#3123 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> What kind of abuse?
#3124 [18:49] <mib_3dktgp> scamming
#3125 [18:49] <Kealper> gPad2002: documentation of what :/
#3126 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_3dktgp - Could you elaborate?
#3127 [18:49] <mib_3dktgp> I know a page where they sell hacked accounts
#3128 [18:49] <gPad2002> Of autoIT..
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#3130 [18:50] <mib_3dktgp> Can I report that page?
#3131 [18:50] <bread> how's that plastic taste?
#3132 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_3dktgp - You may want to send an email to Daniel@mojang.com
#3133 [18:50] <mib_3dktgp> allroght
#3134 [18:50] <mib_3dktgp> *allright
#3135 [18:50] <mib_3dktgp> thank you
#3136 [18:50] <Kealper> gPad2002: i still fail to see what you are talking about :/
#3137 [18:51] <gPad2002> In AutoIT's editor
#3138 [18:51] <gPad2002> Help, documentation
#3139 [18:51] <gPad2002> It's all about automating stuff
#3140 [18:51] <Kealper> that's because it's roots are in windows automation
#3141 [18:51] <Kealper> hence the stigma
#3142 [18:51] <gPad2002> There's next to nothing about using it to actually write things though
#3143 [18:52] <Kealper> idk, all the stuff i've learned about all this stuff i do with it is from applying concepts in the help docs
#3144 [18:53] <Kealper> pretty much every function in autoit is well-documented, and provides examples for use
#3145 [18:54] <gPad2002> Hmm
#3146 [18:54] <gPad2002> I'm sure it's not really as versatile though
#3147 [18:55] <Kealper> idk, it's done everything i've asked it to over the years lol
#3148 [18:56] <gPad2002> Lol
#3149 [18:57] <gPad2002> How would you make a custom GUI?
#3150 [18:57] <Kealper> multi-user drawing program (multiplayer paint thing), numerous chat clients/servers, irc bots, other sorts of chat bots, and doing stuff more in-tune with automation: controlling all sorts of programs, etc
#3151 [18:57] <Kealper> well, what do you mean custom?
#3152 [18:58] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/nUwYC.png like that sort of custom?
#3153 [19:01] <bread> bah
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#3155 [19:06] <dopeghoti> mib_3dktgp: you could also find where the site is hosted and email abuse@ the host's domain
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#3157 [19:08] <gPad2002> Kealper: Lol that's pretty custom
#3158 [19:09] <Kealper> that's nothing compared to what AutoIt can do :>
#3159 [19:09] <dopeghoti> Oh Kealper, you're such an AutoIt evangelist
#3160 [19:10] <gPad2002> :P
#3161 [19:10] <Kealper> dopeghoti: ofcourse :P
#3162 [19:10] <dopeghoti> VoxelHead: how much do you loathe AutoIt?
#3163 [19:10] <Kealper> lol
#3164 [19:11] <dopeghoti> ah, it's away.
#3165 [19:11] <gPad2002> http://www.cppblog.com/images/cppblog_com/lai3d/qt-designer.jpg
#3166 [19:11] <gPad2002> I use that
#3167 [19:11] * gPad2002 uses Qt
#3167 [19:11] <gPad2002> Ignore the font
#3168 [19:11] <gPad2002> Its his settings
#3169 [19:11] <dopeghoti> $EMPLOYER uses Qt too.
#3170 [19:11] * Kealper isn't cool enough to use Qt
#3170 [19:11] <Kealper> eew
#3171 [19:11] <Kealper> form designer
#3172 [19:11] <xales> Qt is nice...impossible to redistribute
#3173 [19:12] <dopeghoti> how so?
#3174 [19:12] <gPad2002> xales: No, it's possible
#3175 [19:12] <gPad2002> Just annoying as he'll
#3176 [19:12] <xales> well, not impossible
#3177 [19:12] <gPad2002> Hell*
#3178 [19:12] <dopeghoti> they have a MySQL-like dual licencing system
#3179 [19:12] <xales> it's just insanely annoying
#3180 [19:12] <xales> dopeghoti: not as far as licensing
#3181 [19:12] <Kealper> AutoIt has a form designer, but it suck imo, i hand-code my GUIs >:D
#3182 [19:12] <dopeghoti> (as best as I can tell)
#3183 [19:12] <xales> actually packaging the application ._.
#3184 [19:12] <gPad2002> DLLs, yeah
#3185 [19:12] <gPad2002> That annoys me
#3186 [19:12] <dopeghoti> for GUIs, I'll use xcode (:
#3187 [19:12] <xales> either compiling it statically (not documented, takes foever, makes giant EXE)
#3188 [19:12] <dopeghoti> for real programs, my GUI is a terminal.
#3189 [19:13] <xales> or screwing around with DLLs :|
#3190 [19:13] <gPad2002> Curses, lol
#3191 [19:13] <bread> ew QT
#3192 [19:13] <xales> dopeghoti: Apple Xcode? lol
#3193 [19:13] <gPad2002> Yeah I don't do it statically
#3194 [19:13] <dopeghoti> DLLs? ewww. Use .so files.
#3195 [19:13] <dopeghoti> (:
#3196 [19:13] <gPad2002> Waste of space
#3197 [19:13] <Kealper> lol
#3198 [19:13] <dopeghoti> xales: it's actually a pretty nice IDE
#3199 [19:13] <xales> dopeghoti: if I wasn't writing it for Windows, I wouldn't bother with a GUI
#3200 [19:13] <bread> GTK is da best
#3201 [19:13] <bread> :>
#3202 [19:13] <dopeghoti> bit vim is better.
#3203 [19:13] <dopeghoti> s/i/u/
#3204 [19:13] <gPad2002> dopeghoti: Try telling Microsoft that :P
#3205 [19:14] <gPad2002> Ew, vim
#3206 [19:14] <gPad2002> Nano ftw
#3207 [19:14] <bread> lol
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#3210 [19:14] <bubblefish4> hi i need some help
#3211 [19:14] <bread> ?? ask
#3212 [19:14] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3213 [19:14] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3214 [19:15] <bubblefish4> mobs such as pigs, cows and sheep have stopped spawning everywhere
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#3216 [19:15] <gPad2002> http://blog.wbou.de/fp-content/images/qtcreator.png is Qt's IDE
#3217 [19:15] <bubblefish4> is it because i have too many wolves?
#3218 [19:15] <gPad2002> It's pretty nice
#3219 [19:15] <bubblefish4> is it because i have too many wolves?
#3220 [19:15] <gPad2002> bubblefish4: Yeah, that's possible, but Uh
#3221 [19:15] <gPad2002> How many wolves do you have?
#3222 [19:16] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/tz7bg.png this is AutoIt's form designer program, which i hate with a passion
#3223 [19:16] <bread> I think Qt is gross looking.
#3224 [19:16] <bubblefish4> i think over 20 :/
#3225 [19:16] <Kealper> bubblefish4: lol....that is probably it
#3226 [19:16] <gPad2002> bread: Qt apps look native
#3227 [19:16] <bubblefish4> do you want a precise number?
#3228 [19:16] <_303> yeah animal spawn limit is 15 :S
#3229 [19:16] <bread> but Qt is gross
#3230 [19:16] <bread> I don't like how it looks at all.
#3231 [19:16] <gPad2002> bread: http://mcplusplus.net/MiniPaste
#3232 [19:16] <xales> _303: no mod to change that? :P
#3233 [19:16] <Kealper> get more than 200 wolves and monsters won't spawn either :P
#3234 [19:16] <_303> xales: sure plenty
#3235 [19:17] <bread> well, that's winblows gPad2002
#3236 [19:17] <_303> not for 1.5 yet though. easy as pie to make
#3237 [19:17] <bubblefish4> thnx guys
#3238 [19:17] <gPad2002> bread: It compiles perfectly on nix and mac too
#3239 [19:17] <xales> bread: you can change the theme of it
#3240 [19:17] <xales> on not-Windows
#3241 [19:17] <bread> yes I know
#3242 [19:17] <bread> I'm not talking the theme
#3243 [19:17] <bubblefish4> dats why you dont hack it and make a wolf spawner :/
#3244 [19:17] <bread> I just think it overall is gross looking
#3245 [19:17] <Kealper> bubblefish4: did you really? lol
#3246 [19:17] <bread> GTK looks much better imo
#3247 [19:17] <bubblefish4> yea i did
#3248 [19:17] <Kealper> lol
#3249 [19:17] <gPad2002> Qt is more than a GUI toolkit
#3250 [19:18] <bubblefish4> and i skele spawner
#3251 [19:18] <Kealper> meh, i've seen Qt make some nice GUIs before
#3252 [19:18] <gPad2002> Much more
#3253 [19:18] <bubblefish4> slime spawner!!!!!
#3254 [19:18] <Kealper> Qt is a pain in the butt though, hard to automate with AutoIt :P
#3255 [19:18] <gPad2002> Teamspeak and mumble both use Qt's voice encoding
#3256 [19:18] <bubblefish4> does not work
#3257 [19:18] <xales> Kealper: so...write it in C++
#3258 [19:18] <_303> slimes won't spawn in spawners because mobs still adher to their spawnrules
#3259 [19:18] <xales> Qt couldn't be easier
#3260 [19:18] <xales> excellent API, for the most part
#3261 [19:18] <bubblefish4> thnx for ya help guys
#3262 [19:18] <_303> and slimes only spawn in special slime chunks and deep down
#3263 [19:18] <gPad2002> xales: C++ w/Qt
#3264 [19:19] <gPad2002> Is so wun
#3265 [19:19] <gPad2002> Win
#3266 [19:19] <xales> gPad2002: indeed
#3267 [19:19] <gPad2002> I like how they made their own types
#3268 [19:19] <gPad2002> For like, everything
#3269 [19:19] <Kealper> xales: no i mean the way Qt does it's crap, it doesn't use native windows GUI controls so automation by working with controls directly is impossible
#3270 [19:19] <xales> Kealper: actually, not at all :P
#3271 [19:19] <gPad2002> Kealper: No, I'm pretty sure it does now
#3272 [19:19] <xales> AutoIt just does it wrong
#3273 [19:19] <bubblefish4> how many wolves should i stop at?
#3274 [19:20] <xales> and even if it didn't (it does), you could still send WMs to them
#3275 [19:20] <gPad2002> Kealper: Go test: http://mcplusplus.net/MiniPaste
#3276 [19:20] <gPad2002> You just need the zip
#3277 [19:20] <gPad2002> (Something I wrote, still devving)
#3278 [19:20] <Kealper> yeah, i could send WMs, but that is much more work than just using the built-in functions with Autoit lol
#3279 [19:21] <Kealper> which is why it's a pain in the butt to automate Qt GUIs lol...means i have to work more
#3280 [19:21] <gPad2002> AutoIT's fault though
#3281 [19:21] <gPad2002> Not Qt's
#3282 [19:21] <Kealper> lowercase t :<
#3283 [19:21] <gPad2002> So what :P
#3284 [19:21] <Kealper> AutoIT looks ugly lol
#3285 [19:21] <gPad2002> Shrug :P
#3286 [19:22] * Kealper cries
#3286 [19:22] <Kealper> wow Qt needs a lot of files
#3287 [19:22] <gPad2002> Yeah
#3288 [19:22] <Kealper> reshack those things in there :o
#3289 [19:22] <gPad2002> Beats doing it statically though
#3290 [19:22] <xales> you can compile it statically
#3291 [19:22] <xales> but it's a PAIN in the ass
#3292 [19:22] <Kealper> oh lol
#3293 [19:22] <xales> and the exe becomes massive
#3294 [19:22] <gPad2002> Static needs a complete recompile
#3295 [19:22] <xales> 10+ MB
#3296 [19:23] <gPad2002> And,, yeah
#3297 [19:23] <gPad2002> And if you build debug by mistake
#3298 [19:23] <xales> and of course, it's not documented how to properly statically compile
#3299 [19:23] <gPad2002> It ends up like 200MB
#3300 [19:23] <Kealper> holy crap that is HUGE
#3301 [19:23] <xales> so sometimes it fails 99% through the build
#3302 [19:23] <xales> and you have start over again
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#3304 [19:23] <xales> because you configured it wrong
#3305 [19:23] <gPad2002> yeah
#3306 [19:23] <Kealper> 31mb total
#3307 [19:23] <xales> gPad2002: I've actually had it fail compiling clucene
#3308 [19:23] <xales> which is one of the last things to make
#3309 [19:24] <xales> <.<
#3310 [19:24] <gPad2002> Lol
#3311 [19:24] <gPad2002> I have some.. Extra DLLs
#3312 [19:24] <Kealper> lol
#3313 [19:24] <gPad2002> From libqxt
#3314 [19:24] <gPad2002> Mostly for the global hotkey
#3315 [19:24] <gPad2002> Lol
#3316 [19:24] <gPad2002> Someone needs to write a tool
#3317 [19:24] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/hXMA5NVP \o/
#3318 [19:25] <gPad2002> That can selectively pick out needed bits from DLLs
#3319 [19:25] <Kealper> hmm
#3320 [19:25] <Kealper> i found an issue with MiniPaste
#3321 [19:25] <gPad2002> Needs a dll I forgot?
#3322 [19:25] <Kealper> no, i don't think it's escaping &
#3323 [19:25] * VoxelHead is back
#3323 [19:25] <gPad2002> You're right, it isn't
#3324 [19:25] <gPad2002> I need to fix that
#3325 [19:26] <bread> hi vox!
#3326 [19:26] <VoxelHead> Y0 bread.
#3327 [19:26] <Kealper> but other than that, it's nice lol
#3328 [19:26] <bread> :D
#3329 [19:26] <gPad2002> Hit CTRL+SHIFT+5
#3330 [19:26] <VoxelHead> =D
#3331 [19:26] <gPad2002> Also
#3332 [19:26] <gPad2002> I'm adding another four bins
#3333 [19:26] <gPad2002> And URL shortening
#3334 [19:26] <gPad2002> And custom hotkeys
#3335 [19:26] <Kealper> nice lol
#3336 [19:26] <VoxelHead> wanna show me what it can do?
#3337 [19:26] <gPad2002> And making it possible to maximise the damn window
#3338 [19:27] <gPad2002> Lol
#3339 [19:27] <Kealper> oh my
#3340 [19:27] <gPad2002> I already fixed that locally though
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#3342 [19:27] <Kealper> the thing windows does when you drag it to the top of the screen maximizes it lol
#3343 [19:27] <gPad2002> It minimises to tray but that version doesn't open on a double click - fixed that too
#3344 [19:27] <gPad2002> Yeah, Qt is weird with window state changes
#3345 [19:28] <gPad2002> I had to use a bool to tell whether it was just minimised or not
#3346 [19:28] <Kealper> lol
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#3348 [19:28] <gPad2002> Because there is apparently no minimise signal
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#3351 [19:28] * gPad2002 shrugs
#3351 [19:28] <Kealper> it eats the WM for minimize?
#3352 [19:28] <gPad2002> No
#3353 [19:28] <gPad2002> I just don't get it
#3354 [19:28] <gPad2002> It does like
#3355 [19:28] <bread> NOM NOM NOM
#3356 [19:29] <bread> dat WM
#3357 [19:29] <gPad2002> It fires a windowstatechanged signal
#3358 [19:29] <gPad2002> And I have to figure out what it did
#3359 [19:29] <Kealper> lol
#3360 [19:29] <xales> gPad2002: O_O
#3361 [19:29] <xales> I've tried to get a Qt application to minimize to tray for a while
#3362 [19:29] <gPad2002> xales: What?
#3363 [19:29] <xales> and I gave up
#3364 [19:29] <xales> :<
#3365 [19:29] <gPad2002> Lol
#3366 [19:29] <gPad2002> It took a while
#3367 [19:29] <gPad2002> Source is at the bottom of the page
#3368 [19:29] <xales> \o/
#3369 [19:29] <gPad2002> :P
#3370 [19:30] <gPad2002> I need to upload the fixed one
#3371 [19:30] <gPad2002> But
#3372 [19:30] <Kealper> crap....i can't find that pastebin function i made :/
#3373 [19:30] <gPad2002> Use a bool, wasMinimized
#3374 [19:30] <gPad2002> To tell if you just minimised or not
#3375 [19:31] <xales> lol
#3376 [19:31] <gPad2002> That's what I did :P
#3377 [19:32] <gPad2002> Do you like mah code? Lol
#3378 [19:33] <xales> not looking at it right now :P
#3379 [19:33] <gPad2002> Its a bit.. All over the place
#3380 [19:34] <gPad2002> But it should be readable
#3381 [19:34] <gPad2002> :P
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#3383 [19:38] <VoxelHead> bye mario8236
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#3385 [19:41] <bf4> you were right i had to you know delete heaps of wolves now i have 3 i had 20
#3386 [19:41] <bf4> :(
#3387 [19:41] * bf4 cries
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#3388 [19:44] <RockDS> Hay
#3389 [19:45] <RockDS> I was hoping to get a little help?
#3390 [19:45] <xales> With?
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#3392 [19:45] <bread> ?? ask
#3393 [19:45] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3394 [19:45] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3395 [19:46] <gPad2002> bread, the ninja
#3396 [19:46] <bread> :>
#3397 [19:46] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3398 [19:46] <gPad2002> :P
#3399 [19:46] <RockDS> Seemed like no one was around =D
#3400 [19:46] <RockDS> So I wanted to check first
#3401 [19:46] <gPad2002> RockDS: There's always someone aroung
#3402 [19:46] <gPad2002> Around
#3403 [19:46] <gPad2002> >.>
#3404 [19:46] <bread> aroung
#3405 [19:46] <gPad2002> <.<
#3406 [19:46] <bread> I'm always aroung
#3407 [19:46] <bread> 8D
#3408 [19:46] <xales> Mibbit's list of who is "away" is bullshit, ignore it :<
#3409 [19:46] <LonrBlackfang> Hey does anyone know where to find a full list of server op commands
#3410 [19:46] <gPad2002> They're always watching us..
#3411 [19:46] <gPad2002> LonrBlackfang: /help
#3412 [19:47] <RockDS> I keep getting a "User is not Premium" message. I purchased the game a while ago without any problem
#3413 [19:47] <xales> LonrBlackfang: http://minecraftwiki.net/ has somewhere, and /help
#3414 [19:47] <bread> <@xales> Mibbit is bullshit, ignore it :<
#3415 [19:47] <bread> ftfy
#3416 [19:47] <bread> :P
#3417 [19:47] <xales> RockDS: are you sure it's the right username?
#3418 [19:47] <RockDS> Yep
#3419 [19:47] <xales> and that the charge hasn't been reversed
#3420 [19:47] <RockDS> Logged into the main site with the same
#3421 [19:47] <LonrBlackfang> we found it
#3422 [19:47] <VoxelHead> Mmm LonrBlackfang.
#3423 [19:47] <xales> RockDS: http://minecraft.net/game/ can you play there?
#3424 [19:47] <gPad2002> RockDS: Username is?
#3425 [19:47] <RockDS> Rock_DS
#3426 [19:48] <gPad2002> !paid Rock_DS
#3427 [19:48] <RockDS> =/ But I did.
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#3429 [19:48] <xales> Either it got reversed or it's the wrong username
#3430 [19:48] <RockDS> Been playing it for months.
#3431 [19:48] <xales> !paid RockDS
#3432 [19:48] <gPad2002> You sure it was that user?
#3433 [19:48] <gPad2002> xales: Ah.
#3434 [19:48] <gPad2002> RockDS: Did you pirate it?
#3435 [19:49] <RockDS> Yea. I only one account
#3436 [19:49] <RockDS> Nope. Didn't pirate it
#3437 [19:49] <gPad2002> Hmm
#3438 [19:49] <dopeghoti> !paid dopeghoti
#3439 [19:49] <dopeghoti> just checking
#3440 [19:49] <bread> \o/
#3441 [19:49] <gPad2002> No custom launcher, nothing like that?
#3442 [19:49] <RockDS> Nope
#3443 [19:49] <RockDS> Not even any mods
#3444 [19:49] <dopeghoti> RockDS: failing all else, email payment@mojang.com cc:support@mojang.com with your username and payment confirmation
#3445 [19:50] <gPad2002> Ninjas, damn ninjas everywhere
#3446 [19:50] <dopeghoti> gPad2002: it's the new Mortal Kombat; everyone's brushing up on their ninja skills.
#3447 [19:50] <gPad2002> :P
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#3451 [19:53] <thig> hello
#3452 [19:54] <thig> again
#3453 [19:54] <xales> Hi
#3454 [19:54] <thig> how do i update lwjgl?
#3455 [19:54] <bread> ...
#3456 [19:55] <xales> Why do you need to? :|
#3457 [19:55] <thig> ha,bread
#3458 [19:55] <gPad2002> Oh, this guy again
#3459 [19:56] <dopeghoti> s/again/still/
#3460 [19:57] <thig> i need to because when i get to the title screen in minecraft,it freezes then my display goes to 4bit instead of 32 bit,it says that my display driver isnt working properly and to restore i have to restart.when i restart,it goes bck to normal but i still cant play.i have played minecraft before
#3461 [19:58] <thig> i still cant play or else it will do that again
#3462 [19:58] <xales> I don't think lwjgl is the issue, then
#3463 [19:58] <xales> have you tried updating the drivers for your video card?
#3464 [19:58] <VoxelHead> 69
#3465 [19:58] <VoxelHead> would i lie?
#3466 [19:58] <thig> well,its the only thing that made a difference
#3467 [19:59] <thig> it is updated
#3468 [19:59] <thig> i have restarted java,and it is the latest
#3469 [19:59] <thig> i mean reinstalled
#3470 [20:00] <xales> lwjgl won't fix display problems
#3471 [20:00] <xales> what video card is it?
#3472 [20:00] <thig> open gl?
#3473 [20:00] <xales> ??> thig win/dxdiag
#3474 [20:00] <VoxelHead> thig: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3475 [20:00] <VoxelHead> thig: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3476 [20:00] <thig> intel Q965/Q963 Express Chipset Family
#3477 [20:00] <xales> ah, that's the problem then
#3478 [20:00] <dopeghoti> there's your problem right there.
#3479 [20:00] <dopeghoti> Get a real video card.
#3480 [20:00] <xales> ^
#3481 [20:00] <dopeghoti> (inb4 it's a laptop)
#3482 [20:01] <thig> what?
#3483 [20:01] <xales> dopeghoti: that's a discrete card, I think
#3484 [20:01] <xales> just a....really nasty one
#3485 [20:01] <dopeghoti> At least it's not a Trident or S3 Virge or something
#3486 [20:01] <dopeghoti> but yes.
#3487 [20:01] <xales> thig: your video card is...horribly bad. I'm surprised it runs at all
#3488 [20:01] <xales> that would be the issue
#3489 [20:01] <thig> what?
#3490 [20:01] <xales> Intel video cards are garbage
#3491 [20:01] <thig> are you kidding me?
#3492 [20:01] <xales> especially that one
#3493 [20:01] <xales> and no, I'm really not
#3494 [20:02] <thig> WOW IVE BEEN TRYING TO SOLVE THIS FOR WEEKS AND IT WAS THE VIDEO CArd!ug
#3495 [20:02] <thig> ten different people
#3496 [20:03] <thig> how much does a new decent video card cost that works for windows xp proffesional
#3497 [20:04] <thig> hello?
#3498 [20:04] <xales> depends
#3499 [20:04] <thig> on what?
#3500 [20:04] <xales> if your computer is old enough to have a card like that...it might not even support PCIE
#3501 [20:05] <thig> oh come on
#3502 [20:05] <bread> also, is it a laptop?
#3503 [20:05] <thig> no
#3504 [20:05] <bread> ok then, you _may_ be in luck
#3505 [20:05] <thig> yay
#3506 [20:05] <bread> if it was a laptop, you'd be completely SOL
#3507 [20:06] <thig> sol?
#3508 [20:06] <bread> shit outta luck
#3509 [20:06] <thig> lol
#3510 [20:06] <bread> screwed
#3511 [20:06] <RockDS> Well I sent the e-mail. I used a 3v prepay credit card, so the confirmation from the site is only held for 3 months, not longenough for when I first got the game =/
#3512 [20:06] <bread> etc
#3513 [20:06] <bread> lol
#3514 [20:06] <VoxelHead> If you think that's short, you should see my penis.
#3515 [20:06] <bread> LOL
#3516 [20:06] <thig> LOL
#3517 [20:06] <bread> <3 vox
#3518 [20:06] <thig> vox is hilarious
#3519 [20:06] <thig> and hes a bot?
#3520 [20:07] <bread> vox, are you a bot!?
#3521 [20:07] <thig> wow,cool bot
#3522 [20:07] <VoxelHead> Yes
#3523 [20:07] <VoxelHead> wait! i mean no.
#3524 [20:07] <bread> 8D
#3525 [20:07] <thig> oh
#3526 [20:07] <xales> you should take it to a computer store or something, ask about what card you can get that's compatible and in your price range and not a piece of shit
#3527 [20:07] <xales> and they can install it properly/safely for you as well
#3528 [20:08] <thig> hey!
#3529 [20:08] <bread> \o/
#3530 [20:08] <xales> ...or just get a new computer
#3531 [20:08] <thig> that sucks balls,like vox
#3532 [20:09] <thig> jk
#3533 [20:09] <VoxelHead> :(
#3534 [20:09] <thig> jk
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#3536 [20:09] <VoxelHead> no u
#3537 [20:09] <xales> VoxelHead is stupid bot
#3538 [20:09] <VoxelHead> garbage fucker
#3539 [20:09] <thig> whats a smart bot?
#3540 [20:09] <VoxelHead> well, now allocated forever i guess
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#3542 [20:10] <thig> what makes you horny vox,bread?
#3543 [20:10] <thig> you and bread are dating
#3544 [20:10] <bread> 'garbage fucker'
#3545 [20:10] <bread> really now
#3546 [20:11] <thig> me?
#3547 [20:11] <bread> looool
#3548 [20:11] <thig> haha
#3549 [20:11] <cadendepatie> is there a place i can host a MC server for free online
#3550 [20:11] <bread> probably not
#3551 [20:11] <thig> NO
#3552 [20:11] <VoxelHead> probably not... prot
#3553 [20:11] <bread> ...
#3554 [20:11] <thig> NEVER EVER
#3555 [20:11] <thig> titty EXPLOSION
#3556 [20:12] <cadendepatie> i had an old tower i was going to use. but my brother decided to take it apart and snap the motherboard in half "to see what it looked like"
#3557 [20:12] <thig> im feeling retarded
#3558 [20:13] <thig> wug and bread are fighting over vox
#3559 [20:13] <thig> after wug threw vox out a window
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#3561 [20:14] <thig> remember that vox?
#3562 [20:14] <VoxelHead> Sometimes.
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#3564 [20:14] <dopeghoti> vox, how much do you like bread?
#3565 [20:14] <VoxelHead> Too much.
#3566 [20:14] <bread> :D
#3567 [20:14] <dopeghoti> there you go then.
#3568 [20:15] <thig> SEE
#3569 [20:15] <mib_hu64kg> where do a go to make a mincraft server
#3570 [20:15] <dopeghoti> mib_hu64kg: generally, the commandline
#3571 [20:15] <thig> your grandma
#3572 [20:15] <dopeghoti> Also:
#3573 [20:15] <dopeghoti> !server
#3574 [20:15] <mib_hu64kg> what is the link
#3575 [20:15] <mib_hu64kg> do i have to pay for it
#3576 [20:16] <thig> YOUR GRANDMA BROKE MY MAPLE BAR!
#3577 [20:16] <thig> good thing i have two
#3578 [20:16] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#3579 [20:16] <thig> you say that a olt
#3580 [20:17] <thig> lot
#3581 [20:17] <mib_hu64kg> do i have to pay for a sever i have heard this before
#3582 [20:17] <thig> yes if you want to keep it running 24 7
#3583 [20:18] <dopeghoti> mib_hu64kg: the server software is free; the client is not.
#3584 [20:18] <bread> if you use an external server, you have to pay for that
#3585 [20:18] <bread> if you run the server software from your own computer, that's free
#3586 [20:18] <dopeghoti> FCVO 'free'
#3587 [20:18] <mib_hu64kg> ?
#3588 [20:18] <dopeghoti> what with the ISP bill, electricity bill, &c.
#3589 [20:18] <thig> fcvo?you guys like to text
#3590 [20:19] <dopeghoti> ??+ FCVO|For Certain Values Of
#3591 [20:19] <thig> you guys are boring
#3592 [20:19] <mib_hu64kg> wait what
#3593 [20:20] * dopeghoti injects thig with 50cc of LSD
#3593 [20:20] <thig> why cant you be more exciting like vox
#3594 [20:20] <thig> ??+lsd
#3595 [20:20] <mib_hu64kg> do you pay for it any way if its not 24 7
#3596 [20:20] <thig> not on your own computer
#3597 [20:20] <xales> mib_hu64kg: You have to own the game to play it
#3598 [20:21] <mib_hu64kg> i qwn it
#3599 [20:21] <mib_hu64kg> ownit
#3600 [20:21] <xales> Then no
#3601 [20:21] <mib_hu64kg> i own it
#3602 [20:21] <thig> THEN NO
#3603 [20:21] <xales> If you want to run a server on your own computer
#3604 [20:21] <xales> you don't have to pay any additional fee
#3605 [20:21] <thig> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.IM SO SADim so sad
#3606 [20:21] <thig> bored
#3607 [20:22] <thig> really bored
#3608 [20:22] <mib_hu64kg> so i dont need pay if its not 24 7 but i do if it is 24 7
#3609 [20:22] <thig> YES
#3610 [20:22] <mib_hu64kg> ok
#3611 [20:22] <mib_hu64kg> ty
#3612 [20:22] <thig> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
#3613 [20:23] <bread> …
#3614 [20:23] <thig> I WANT TO LEARN NOT TO USE CAPS
#3615 [20:23] * VoxelHead is blown away by force of thig's statement
#3615 [20:23] <xales> I sure hope you do
#3616 [20:23] <thig> PLEASE HELP ME.jk
#3617 [20:23] <mib_hu64kg> whatdo i do with the file when i have it
#3618 [20:23] <xales> you run it? ._.
#3619 [20:23] <thig> vox
#3620 [20:24] <thig> i love you
#3621 [20:24] <mib_hu64kg> i didnt no that k first time if you no what i mean
#3622 [20:24] <thig> maybe,maybe not.maybe i killed your wife
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#3625 [20:25] <thig> im really bored.i cant believe i have to buy a new driver,or graphics card!
#3626 [20:25] <thig> just for minecraft!
#3627 [20:25] <xales> You don't buy drivers or whatever
#3628 [20:25] <xales> you would buy a graphics card
#3629 [20:25] <Tanner> Minecraft server is starting right, but i can't connect to it
#3630 [20:25] <Tanner> Using the internal or external IP
#3631 [20:26] <xales> Tanner: Did you put an IP in the server.properties file?
#3632 [20:26] <thig> the wierd part is that i can play minecraft on my moms computer.(not 30)
#3633 [20:26] <thig> 12
#3634 [20:26] <xales> thig: I'm not sure how that's weird
#3635 [20:26] <Tanner> ah, it's set as 127.0.0.1
#3636 [20:26] <xales> Tanner: You should just leave the line empty
#3637 [20:26] <xales> "server-ip="
#3638 [20:27] <thig> im not sure how you are so wierd
#3639 [20:27] <thig> xales
#3640 [20:27] <thig> btw xales ty
#3641 [20:28] <Tanner> xales: Same error.
#3642 [20:28] <Tanner> Connection Refused
#3643 [20:28] <xales> Tanner: Check the port as well
#3644 [20:28] <thig> portal 2 seems like a retarded game because you have to think a ton
#3645 [20:28] <xales> and if you are running a firewall, turn it off
#3646 [20:29] <xales> thig: that's...the point of it
#3647 [20:29] <Tanner> port=25565
#3648 [20:29] <Tanner> it worked earlier, but now it doesn't
#3649 [20:29] <xales> Tanner: Try connecting with '127.0.0.1'
#3650 [20:29] <thig> why?
#3651 [20:29] <mib_hu64kg> what do i do when its running
#3652 [20:29] <Tanner> xales: this is on a server in my bedroom, not my laptop
#3653 [20:29] <thig> have any of you heard of the aether,the mod?
#3654 [20:29] <VoxelHead> Let me consult a fortune cookie.
#3655 [20:29] <mib_hu64kg> yes
#3656 [20:30] <xales> Tanner: Ah. Make sure the internal IP hasn't changed
#3657 [20:30] <mib_hu64kg> i have
#3658 [20:30] <mib_hu64kg> how
#3659 [20:30] <xales> mib_hu64kg: after you run it...you connect to it
#3660 [20:30] <Tanner> Just did, it's the same
#3661 [20:30] <thig> IT PWNES
#3662 [20:30] <mib_hu64kg> how
#3663 [20:30] <thig> WHAT?
#3664 [20:30] <xales> mib_hu64kg: you open the game, and put 'localhost' as the IP
#3665 [20:30] <xales> thig: please, stop with the caps, and take off-topic discussion to #minecraft
#3666 [20:30] <mib_hu64kg> ok
#3667 [20:30] <thig> i like caps
#3668 [20:30] <mib_hu64kg> how do i share ip
#3669 [20:31] <xales> mib_hu64kg: you have to port forward
#3670 [20:31] <mib_hu64kg> ?
#3671 [20:31] <thig> how do i make a mod?
#3672 [20:31] <xales> thig: we can't help with that
#3673 [20:31] <thig> darn
#3674 [20:31] <thig> is it hard?
#3675 [20:31] <mib_hu64kg> how do i port forward
#3676 [20:31] <xales> mib_hu64kg: http://portforward.com/ select the model of router you have, skip the advertisement, then click 'Minecraft server' and it will give you instrictuons
#3677 [20:31] <mib_hu64kg> ok
#3678 [20:31] <xales> thig: It depends on what you want to do. If you are a good programmer, not really. Otherwise, yes
#3679 [20:32] <thig> darn
#3680 [20:32] <thig> im not a good programmer
#3681 [20:32] <thig> at all
#3682 [20:32] <thig> again,im 12
#3683 [20:33] <Tanner> thig: There are several 12 year olds who've done things that you wouldn't expect
#3684 [20:33] <thig> like make awesome mods?
#3685 [20:33] <xales> I think hey0 is 12/13 or something
#3686 [20:33] <xales> anyway
#3687 [20:33] * xales bbl
#3687 [20:34] <xales> Tanner: Connection refused = no server running on that port/ip
#3688 [20:34] <xales> (or it's bound incorrectly)
#3689 [20:34] <Tanner> like get 6k from finding two security flaws in firefox
#3690 [20:34] <thig> i had this really awesome i dea of a mod and what it adds is a bunch of awesome plants,like 15
#3691 [20:34] <Tanner> xales: the server is running, and the port is open. 25565 is default, right?
#3692 [20:34] <xales> Tanner: correct
#3693 [20:34] <xales> make sure firewall isn't running (at all, just to check)
#3694 [20:35] <thig> and they spawn in certain types of weather conditions
#3695 [20:35] <xales> and that the server-ip= line is correct
#3696 [20:35] <xales> (it should be black)
#3697 [20:35] <xales> err
#3698 [20:35] <xales> blank :|
#3699 [20:35] <bread> start wearin' purple.
#3700 [20:35] <xales> anyway
#3701 [20:35] * xales goes to eat
#3701 [20:35] <thig> do you thik thats a good mod?
#3702 [20:35] <bread> get me some food xales
#3703 [20:35] <thig> donuts
#3704 [20:36] <thig> so....is that a good idea for a mod?
#3705 [20:36] <thig> anybody?
#3706 [20:37] <thig> the plant thing
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#3708 [20:44] <thig> its been like 5 minutes people
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#3710 [20:45] <thig> yaaaaaaaaawn,im tired
#3711 [20:45] <thig> ninight time
#3712 [20:45] <thig> thig falls asleep
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#3715 [20:46] <wtf> white listed shit not working?
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#3717 [20:48] <mib_tyt3ft> ok im back and loca host does not work can i step by step walkthrough on making a server
#3718 [20:48] <xales> mib_tyt3ft: "localhost"
#3719 [20:48] <xales> it doesn't get any simpler than that
#3720 [20:49] <xales> if you can't get that far, you probably shouldn't run a server
#3721 [20:49] <mib_tyt3ft> it didnt work
#3722 [20:49] <xales> are you running the server?
#3723 [20:49] <wtf> cant get onto my own fucking server cuz im not white listed, and i am white listed, and i hae it turned off, wtf
#3724 [20:49] <xales> wtf: chill out...
#3725 [20:49] <mib_tyt3ft> i dont no how
#3726 [20:49] <xales> turn whitelist off in the server.properties file
#3727 [20:50] <thig> snoooooooooooooore
#3728 [20:50] <xales> mib_tyt3ft: as I've already said, you double click on the file you downloaded
#3729 [20:50] <mib_tyt3ft> ok then
#3730 [20:50] <xales> thig: if you aren't going to help and don't need help, please don't be distracting to people
#3731 [20:50] <thig> dude,even i can run something
#3732 [20:50] <wtf> i did
#3733 [20:50] <mib_tyt3ft> so i get confused
#3734 [20:50] <mib_tyt3ft> alot
#3735 [20:50] <thig> well,im just bored
#3736 [20:51] <wtf> i have it off in server prop, and i have users listed on the white list....and yes i did save
#3737 [20:51] <xales> wtf: did you restart the server since you turned the whitelist off?
#3738 [20:51] <mib_tyt3ft> ok i double clicked it now what
#3739 [20:51] <xales> mib_tyt3ft: ._.
#3740 [20:51] <xales> try connecting to it now
#3741 [20:51] <mib_tyt3ft> ok i double clicked it now what
#3742 [20:51] <thig> when is the mod "the aether" coming out
#3743 [20:52] <xales> thig: why would we be able to answer that?
#3744 [20:52] <mib_tyt3ft> ok
#3745 [20:52] <xales> mib_tyt3ft: again, try connecting
#3746 [20:52] <thig> good point,just thought it over
#3747 [20:52] <mib_tyt3ft> it worked yeah
#3748 [20:53] <thig> so,just comfirming,i need to buy a better driver or graphics card,xales?
#3749 [20:53] <xales> thig: you don't buy drivers or "better" drivers
#3750 [20:53] <xales> you have to buy a better graphics card
#3751 [20:53] <mib_tyt3ft> how do i get the ip to freinds
#3752 [20:53] <thig> i said graphics card
#3753 [20:53] <xales> mib_tyt3ft: I already said...
#3754 [20:53] <xales> 20:30:36 <@xales> mib_hu64kg: http://portforward.com/ select the model of router you have, skip the advertisement, then click 'Minecraft server' and it will give you instrictuons
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#3756 [20:54] <mib_tyt3ft> i could not remember the site
#3757 [20:54] <thig> im going to play minecraft on a labtop now,bye,ty xales
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#3760 [20:55] <[z]> labtop.. For the top.. of your.. lab?
#3761 [20:55] <IamSam> So uhh, I've been told possible a corrupt map, sounds accurate? http://pastebin.com/zb2K44EF
#3762 [20:55] <IamSam> Also, any fix?
#3763 [20:56] <xales> Open map with MCEdit, change something, save map
#3764 [20:56] <IamSam> It's not game breaking, but it makes logging terrifying.
#3765 [20:56] <IamSam> Oh neat, thanks.
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#3767 [21:00] <mib_sa3dany> Hello.
#3768 [21:00] <xales> Hi
#3769 [21:00] <mib_sa3dany> can anybody please try to connect to this server(mine) and see if it works ‎41.68.39.98:25565
#3770 [21:01] <xales> You are welcome to do that yourself, with the bot. Also, appending :25565 is not necessary, as it is the default
#3771 [21:01] <xales> !check 41.68.39.98
#3772 [21:01] <mib_sa3dany> That means it works right?
#3773 [21:02] <IamSam> !check greeneggs.dyndns.org
#3774 [21:02] <xales> Yes
#3775 [21:02] <IamSam> Fancy.
#3776 [21:02] <mib_sa3dany> Thank you xales.
#3777 [21:04] <mib_sa3dany> !check ‎41.68.39.98
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#3779 [21:05] * bread pokes AuBot
#3779 [21:05] <bread> \o/
#3780 [21:05] * IamSam pokes AuBot
#3780 [21:05] <IamSam> EH
#3781 [21:08] <IamSam> Will MCEdit eat any new blocks I have since it hasn't been updated for 1.5?
#3782 [21:08] <bread> nomnomnom
#3783 [21:09] <Tanner> oh, i should mention that i was using SimpleServer wrapper
#3784 [21:09] <Tanner> anyone know how to make it work? :/
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#3786 [21:16] <IamSam> Chunk file at 2,-20 is in the wrong location; relocating. (Expected 2, -20, got 3, -21)
#3787 [21:16] <IamSam> Should I worry about that?
#3788 [21:16] <Kealper> not if it was just the once lol
#3789 [21:16] <IamSam> lol
#3790 [21:16] <IamSam> I get it occasionally on boot of the server
#3791 [21:16] <Kealper> weird
#3792 [21:16] <IamSam> Also, has anybody else gotten the problem with mobs spawning?
#3793 [21:17] <IamSam> I had my players come screaming to me on skype because about 400 spiders spawned.
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#3795 [21:19] <IamSam> Also, getting this some more :/
#3796 [21:19] <IamSam> http://pastebin.com/eiUimr1T
#3797 [21:19] <aaher2> hi guys im gettin a error like this when i try to connect to a minecraft server doctype public html w3c dtd xhtml 1.0 transitional en could u pleas help me
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#3799 [21:21] <Kealper> ok back
#3800 [21:21] <Kealper> aaher2: are you using a mac?
#3801 [21:21] <aaher2> no windows
#3802 [21:21] <Kealper> oh, that's weird
#3803 [21:21] <Kealper> never heard of that happening on windows before
#3804 [21:22] <aaher2> it was workin yesterday but too day it isnt
#3805 [21:22] <Kealper> are you using the latest launcher and everything?
#3806 [21:22] <aaher2> yea
#3807 [21:22] <Kealper> did anything change on your computer?
#3808 [21:23] <aaher2> no my computer is the same as yesterday
#3809 [21:23] <Kealper> no antivirus or firewall software installed? (they might mess up and screw with the launcher)
#3810 [21:24] <aaher2> will my antivirus is satin the minecraft website is dagouse
#3811 [21:24] <aaher2> dangerous
#3812 [21:24] <Kealper> O.o
#3813 [21:24] <Kealper> uhh...disable your antivirus then, it might be screwing with the launcher
#3814 [21:25] <Kealper> or find a way to allow minecraft.net :/
#3815 [21:25] <aaher2> ill try it now
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#3817 [21:25] <aaher2> still wont work
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#3819 [21:26] <Kealper> hmm....could you show me the exact error you are getting?
#3820 [21:26] <aaher2> ok
#3821 [21:27] <aaher2> failes to log in doctype public html"-//W3C//DTD xhtml 1.o transitional//EN
#3822 [21:28] <xales> Are you sure you turned off the antivirus?
#3823 [21:28] <aaher2> yea
#3824 [21:28] <xales> Try this:
#3825 [21:28] <xales> Go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc
#3826 [21:28] <xales> in that folder, is a file called "hosts"
#3827 [21:28] <xales> open it with Notepad, and copy all of the contents to http://pastebin.com
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#3830 [21:30] <Rover> Hello, I'm having a bit of a problem with the launcher I've never had before. I've tried logging in, and it says logging in, but then it crashes and gives me an error .txt file. Here is what it says: http://pastebin.com/Swn21d3g any idea why? Please help..
#3831 [21:30] <aaher2> done now what
#3832 [21:31] <Kealper> Rover: try reinstalling your graphics drivers
#3833 [21:31] <aaher2> how
#3834 [21:31] <Kealper> Rover: also if you have not already, try reinstalling the game first
#3835 [21:32] <aaher2> xales done what u told me to do now what
#3836 [21:32] <xales> aaher2: we need the pastebin link
#3837 [21:32] <aaher2> ok
#3838 [21:32] <aaher2> http://pastebin.com/nQKqPf3e
#3839 [21:32] <aaher2> there u go
#3840 [21:33] <xales> that's the entire file?
#3841 [21:33] <aaher2> yea
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#3844 [21:33] <xales> Try http://minecraft.net/
#3845 [21:33] <xales> does it still say it's "dangerous"?
#3846 [21:33] <Kavok> I have a question about compasses, can anyone help please?
#3847 [21:33] <xales> Kavok: Just ask
#3848 [21:33] <VoxelHead> bye Rover
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#3850 [21:34] <bread> hi vox
#3851 [21:34] <VoxelHead> =]
#3852 [21:34] <bread> :D
#3853 [21:34] <aaher2> no because i turned my antivirus off
#3854 [21:34] * Kealper goes afk
#3854 [21:34] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3855 [21:34] <Kavok> On my server it seems that the compass doesn't point to anything, not the spawn point, not my bed/sleep location
#3856 [21:34] <xales> Kavok: I believe it's broken if you have a bed spawn
#3857 [21:35] <xales> aaher2: and Minecraft still doesn't work?
#3858 [21:35] <Kavok> It wasn't working before I had a bed
#3859 [21:35] <aaher2> still dosnt work
#3860 [21:35] <xales> Kavok: Not sure...it should point to the normal spawn poinr
#3861 [21:35] <Kavok> ok, maybe it's just me then, I'll have to check it out
#3862 [21:36] <aaher2> its still showin that the minecraft website is dangours
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#3864 [21:36] <xales> aaher2: can you take a screenshot of the page?
#3865 [21:37] <aaher2> sure
#3866 [21:37] <aaher2> my print screen is broken so i cant
#3867 [21:38] <xales> Use the virtual keyboard then
#3868 [21:38] <aaher2> how
#3869 [21:38] <aaher2> im using a laptop
#3870 [21:38] <xales> Start->All Programs->Accessories->Ease of Access->On-screen Keyboard
#3871 [21:39] <aaher2> where do i past it
#3872 [21:40] <aaher2> where di i put the image
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#3874 [21:41] <xales> aaher2: imgur.com
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#3876 [21:43] <aaher2> the minecraft website is now safe
#3877 [21:43] <aaher2> no they arent
#3878 [21:44] <xales> can you just upload the screenshot? ._.
#3879 [21:44] <aaher2> i cant because the image want save anywhere
#3880 [21:45] <xales> What do you mean "won't save anywhere"?
#3881 [21:45] <aaher2> i cant paste the image
#3882 [21:45] <xales> Try paint?
#3883 [21:45] <aaher2> ok
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#3885 [21:47] <aaher2> http://imgur.com/Rv7ft
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#3888 [21:48] <aaher2> i put the link up xales
#3889 [21:48] <xales> aaher2: Are you sure the antivirus is completely off?
#3890 [21:48] <aaher2> http://imgur.com/Rv7ft
#3891 [21:48] <aaher2> yes
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#3893 [21:49] <Whisper> Hello everone i need help testing to see if my port forwarding works
#3894 [21:49] <xales> Whisper: Just say "!check (IP)"
#3895 [21:49] <xales> aaher2: I saw it
#3896 [21:49] <Te22o2> o
#3897 [21:49] <Whisper> Here or in the server command port?
#3898 [21:49] <aaher2> it says it off
#3899 [21:49] <xales> Whisper: here
#3900 [21:50] <Whisper> !check 192.168.1.248:49497
#3901 [21:50] <xales> aaher2: Uninstall that trend micro garbage
#3902 [21:50] <aaher2> ok i have norten here
#3903 [21:51] <xales> You should probably uninstall that too
#3904 [21:51] <xales> norton is horrible
#3905 [21:51] <xales> aaher2: the green circle icon in the tray. turn it off
#3906 [21:51] <aaher2> but want my computer get virus
#3907 [21:51] <xales> no, it won't
#3908 [21:51] <aaher2> ok
#3909 [21:51] <xales> Norton is a virus, more or less
#3910 [21:51] <Te22o2> Hiya I I was wondering if someone could help me out with a problem im having running MC V1.75
#3911 [21:52] <aaher2> it uninstalling now
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#3913 [21:52] <xales> Te22o2: 1.75?
#3914 [21:52] <aetherian> 'ello again people
#3915 [21:53] <Whisper> Aubot is a bot right? xD
#3916 [21:53] <xales> Yes
#3917 [21:53] <aaher2> done
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#3919 [21:53] <xales> aaher2: uninstall the "Trend Micro Safe Page" thing too
#3920 [21:53] <xales> or whatever it's called
#3921 [21:54] <alec> Is there any reason that after a little while of playing MC, my screen goes black, MC stops responding, and I have to restart it? D:
#3922 [21:54] <Whisper> !check 173.217.16.136:49497
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#3924 [21:54] <xales> alec: It's a known problem, you can try updating Java and updating your graphics card driver, but otherwise just wait for a fix
#3925 [21:54] <aaher2> yea i have
#3926 [21:55] <alec> Thanks xales. That sucks. =/
#3927 [21:55] <alec> Now to go figure out why my water elevator keeps breaking boats. D:<
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#3929 [21:55] <Wug> if you're on a 64 bit system, make sure you have 64 bit java
#3930 [21:55] <sadfacing> they bans me for being lonely
#3931 [21:55] <sadfacing> :(
#3932 [21:55] <sadfacing> why bans me for being lonely
#3933 [21:56] <aaher2> xales i have uninstalled all trend stuff
#3934 [21:56] * xales kicked sadfacing from #minecrafthelp (Reason: sadfacing)
#3935 [21:56] <xales> aaher2: restart your computer, then see if it works
#3936 [21:56] <aaher2> ok
#3937 [21:57] <alec> Wug, how can I czech to see if I'm using the 64bit Java?
#3938 [22:00] <Whisper> okay it says i have not enought ram, how do i lauch the server as away?
#3939 [22:00] <xales> Whisper: How much RAM does your computer have?
#3940 [22:00] <Wug> hit win+r, run the following: java -version > %homepath%\desktop
#3941 [22:01] <Whisper> i think 2 GB
#3942 [22:01] <Wug> hit win+r, run the following: java -version > %homepath%\desktop\info.txt
#3943 [22:01] <xales> You need a lot to run a server, and even more if you want to play and run a server at the same time
#3944 [22:01] <[E]MARANTz> Does anyone know why i get "cant connect to minecraft.net?" had this problem for 2 months now. :/ pm
#3945 [22:01] <Wug> not the other one
#3946 [22:01] <xales> Whisper: that's not enough
#3947 [22:01] <xales> [E]MARANTz: Check the date and time (especially the year) on your computer, make sure it is correct
#3948 [22:01] <Whisper> I just want to play minecraft with my friend FFS -.-
#3949 [22:01] <Wug> the server seems to be running reasonably light on ram
#3950 [22:01] <Wug> im running one atm with 35 players, only using ~250MB
#3951 [22:02] <Wug> (it's full too)
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#3953 [22:03] <Whisper> I have 1.2 gb of free ram after OP and everything else running
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#3955 [22:04] <Whisper> Wug How do i run it as something again?
#3956 [22:05] <alec> Mkay, running with all the server questions, if I'm running 2gb of RAM on my machine, should I be able to run a server, and play on the server with the same PC?
#3957 [22:05] <aaher2> xalsa its not doin the error but it is crashing now
#3958 [22:05] <aaher2> someone help please when i go to log in to a server my minecraft crashes help please
#3959 [22:05] <aaher2> no
#3960 [22:06] <aaher2> could someone help when i log in to a server my minecraft crashes
#3961 [22:06] <Whisper> Maybe you are not on the white list?
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#3963 [22:07] <aaher2> xales it worked but now it crashes
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#3967 [22:12] <aaher2> thanks for ur help guys ur the best
#3968 [22:13] <mib_3kzrim> anyone know how to fix when i try 2 join a multyplayer server i keep getting java.net.socketTimeoutException: read time out
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#3970 [22:15] <mib_3kzrim> anyone?
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#3975 [22:22] <LordTrevor> State your problem.
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#3977 [22:22] <Razorflame> Sunlight can pass through glass, right?
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#3979 [22:23] <LordTrevor> Yes.
#3980 [22:23] <Razorflame> ty
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#3987 [22:41] <lumps> just a quick question
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#3989 [22:42] <lumps> anyone notice a huge increase in CPU usage after the last update?
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#3992 [22:56] <chickenoodlz> argh
#3993 [22:59] <bread> lolwut
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#3995 [22:59] <mib_3kzrim> anyone knoanyone know how to fix when i try 2 join a multyplayer server i keep getting java.net.socketTimeoutException: read time out
#3996 [22:59] <PH0ENIX> the server hasnt updated yet
#3997 [23:00] <mib_3kzrim> ah so its not on my part?
#3998 [23:00] <mib_3kzrim> and also i was on it yesterday with patch 1.5
#3999 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you try smp.shadow-craft.net?
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#4001 [23:01] <PH0ENIX> him or me?
#4002 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_3kzrim
#4003 [23:01] <mib_3kzrim> waht is that?
#4004 [23:01] <PH0ENIX> ah
#4005 [23:01] <adamC> how to register nick?
#4006 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> It's a multiplayer server address
#4007 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> adamC - For IRC?
#4008 [23:02] <adamC> i guess yeah
#4009 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#4010 [23:02] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#4011 [23:02] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#4012 [23:02] <mib_3kzrim> ya i got in
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#4014 [23:02] <adamC> that's what i need thx voxel
#4015 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_3kzrim - Then it's most likely the server's fault
#4016 [23:02] <mib_3kzrim> kk
#4017 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> smp.shadow-craft.net is updated for 1.5_02
#4018 [23:03] <mib_3kzrim> k
#4019 [23:03] <mib_3kzrim> ill play here :)
#4020 [23:04] <PH0ENIX> yea so the powered minecarts are rad
#4021 [23:04] <PH0ENIX> but are they supposed to turn?
#4022 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> nope
#4023 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> er
#4024 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> powered minecarts? yeah.
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#4026 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Powered rails, no.
#4027 [23:05] <PH0ENIX> will they connect to regular rails?
#4028 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> powered rails, yes.
#4029 [23:05] <PH0ENIX> ok, good enough i suppose
#4030 [23:06] <PH0ENIX> thx
#4031 [23:07] <adamC> server down, can't play minecraft :(
#4032 [23:08] <PH0ENIX> play on another server then
#4033 [23:08] <adamC> but my world is there :)
#4034 [23:08] <PH0ENIX> bahhh make another :-)
#4035 [23:09] <mib_3kzrim> server do u guys play on?
#4036 [23:09] <PH0ENIX> i run my own
#4037 [23:09] <PH0ENIX> GreyVulpine, do you know if you can make boosters for powered rails?
#4038 [23:09] <mib_3kzrim> people play there or is it like just u n friends?
#4039 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> That's kinda the point of powered rails
#4040 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> It's a replacement for boosters
#4041 [23:10] <PH0ENIX> lol i know, but faster is never fast enough :-P
#4042 [23:10] <adamC> hmm maybe i'll try making a skin while i wait
#4043 [23:11] <PH0ENIX> mib_3kzrim, its whoever i give the addy to
#4044 [23:11] <PH0ENIX> not a big server, only supports like 13 people
#4045 [23:12] * thig [thig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4046 [23:13] <thig> xales,you are wrong because i have played minecraft before
#4047 [23:14] <thig> ph0enix,remember me?
#4048 [23:15] <thig> hey,anybody awake?
#4049 [23:16] <thig> vox
#4050 [23:16] <PH0ENIX> yea?
#4051 [23:16] <thig> yes or no
#4052 [23:16] <aetherian> hello, thig
#4053 [23:17] <thig> ello,mate
#4054 [23:17] <thig> does ph0enix remember my problem?
#4055 [23:17] <thig> im guessing no
#4056 [23:18] <PH0ENIX> youre kinda pushy arnt you?
#4057 [23:18] <thig> i dont want to explain it though because its long,but i will if i have to
#4058 [23:18] <thig> sorry
#4059 [23:18] <thig> impacient i guess
#4060 [23:19] <PH0ENIX> well ive only been running a server for like 2 days, so i dont know if i can help you much
#4061 [23:19] <mib_3kzrim> whats advanced openGL do?
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#4063 [23:19] <thig> my problem isnt about servers
#4064 [23:19] <PH0ENIX> whats it about?
#4065 [23:19] <thig> ill tell you
#4066 [23:20] <PH0ENIX> no just tell me what its about, ill let you knoe if i might be able to help
#4067 [23:20] <thig> its about my driver i think
#4068 [23:22] <thig> do you remember me?
#4069 [23:22] <aetherian> what
#4070 [23:22] <PH0ENIX> i remember you, not your problem though
#4071 [23:22] <aetherian> what's the problem
#4072 [23:22] <aetherian> just reiterate it.
#4073 [23:22] <thig> i kind of have to tell you because i dont really know what its about
#4074 [23:22] <thig> here i go
#4075 [23:23] <aetherian> there you go
#4076 [23:23] <PH0ENIX> lol
#4077 [23:23] <jhches> Hello, I'm trying to run Minecraft (Client) on Ubuntu 10.10 and I think my proprietary garphic driver is what causing it to crash. (ATI/AMD proprietary blah blah..)
#4078 [23:24] <mib_3kzrim> adamc what server u play on?
#4079 [23:24] <jhches> Do anyone else here was able to run minecraft on 10.10 with ATI/AMD driver?
#4080 [23:24] <aetherian> many people can run it on that
#4081 [23:24] <aetherian> is there a crash log?
#4082 [23:24] <jhches> Hmm
#4083 [23:24] <jhches> Okay give me a min
#4084 [23:24] <aetherian> if so, pastebin it (pastebin.com)
#4085 [23:24] <jhches> let me recnofigure and see if I can do antything else.
#4086 [23:24] <thig> when i get to the title screen,minecraft freezes the n my display goes to 4 bit instaed of 32bit.it says that my display driver isnt working normally.reboot to restore.when i reboot,it goes back to normal but i still cant play.i have played minecraft before
#4087 [23:25] <PH0ENIX> lol install xp
#4088 [23:25] <thig> WINDOWS XP
#4089 [23:25] <PH0ENIX> it ran like shit in ubuntu when i did it
#4090 [23:25] <aetherian> thig: is there... an error report/crash log?
#4091 [23:25] <thig> NO
#4092 [23:25] <aetherian> PH0ENIX: then you were doing it wrong
#4093 [23:25] <thig> oops sorry caps
#4094 [23:25] <PH0ENIX> pft, fck linix
#4095 [23:25] <jhches> :(
#4096 [23:25] <PH0ENIX> *linux
#4097 [23:26] <jhches> I use ubuntu and window 7
#4098 [23:26] * aetherian takes a swing at PH0ENIX's face with his glowing lava lamp
#4098 [23:26] <aetherian> okay, moving on
#4099 [23:26] <PH0ENIX> pffff
#4100 [23:26] <jhches> I work on ubuntu, but I dont want to boot up win 7 every time I feel like playing minecraft
#4101 [23:26] <jhches> Anyway
#4102 [23:26] <jhches> I just removed OpenJDK
#4103 [23:26] <jhches> and crap like that
#4104 [23:26] <jhches> installed sun-java6-jre
#4105 [23:26] <thig> there is no error report,because after the display goes to 4bit minecraft is black
#4106 [23:26] <jhches> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#4107 [23:27] <aetherian> thig: "display goes to 4bit"
#4108 [23:27] <jhches> I did that
#4109 [23:27] <mib_3kzrim> what does connection lost "end of stream" mean?
#4110 [23:27] <jhches> and switched java the sun one, not OpenJDK.
#4111 [23:27] <thig> the display quality goes down to 4 bit
#4112 [23:27] <jhches> and now I'm going to do
#4113 [23:27] <jhches> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#4114 [23:28] <jhches> thig I think you mean 16 bit
#4115 [23:28] <thig> no,4bit
#4116 [23:28] <aetherian> specify.
#4117 [23:28] <aetherian> jhches: so you installed proprietary java?
#4118 [23:28] <jhches> aetherian What? I installed SUN java
#4119 [23:28] <jhches> aetherian sun-java6-jre
#4120 [23:28] <aetherian> sorry, I'm getting horrible internet
#4121 [23:28] <aetherian> so I missed a bunch of that conversation :|
#4122 [23:28] <aetherian> anyway
#4123 [23:28] <jhches> Oh lol
#4124 [23:28] <thig> my color quality goes down to 4bit
#4125 [23:29] <mib_3kzrim> what does connection lost "end of stream" mean?
#4126 [23:29] <aetherian> thig: could you, perhaps, take a screenshot of it and upload it somewhere?
#4127 [23:29] <aetherian> I do not get what you mean by went to 4bit
#4128 [23:29] <aetherian> and jhc: you've made sure that it's the latest driver?
#4129 [23:29] <thig> i dont know how to do that
#4130 [23:29] <PH0ENIX> 4 bit is black and white i think
#4131 [23:29] <jhches> aetherian yes
#4132 [23:29] <PH0ENIX> or 16 color mode
#4133 [23:30] <PH0ENIX> XP <----
#4134 [23:30] <aetherian> PH0ENIX: we get that you run XP
#4135 [23:30] <aetherian> reiterating that helps the conversation not.
#4136 [23:30] <thig> its the latest driver
#4137 [23:30] <PH0ENIX> im telling him to run xp
#4138 [23:30] <jhches> me?
#4139 [23:30] <thig> me
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#4141 [23:30] <aetherian> PH0ENIX: please, contribute to the conversation, or shut up :|
#4142 [23:30] <jhches> Ah
#4143 [23:30] <PH0ENIX> :-(
#4144 [23:30] <thig> hey
#4145 [23:30] <thig> be nice
#4146 [23:31] <aetherian> anyway
#4147 [23:31] <PH0ENIX> well i dont use linux, so ill just stay over here
#4148 [23:31] <aetherian> thig, what do you mean by it went down to 4bit mode
#4149 [23:31] <jhches> Anyway, so I run java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame and this is what I get
#4150 [23:31] <thig> i dont use linux
#4151 [23:31] <jhches> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame
#4152 [23:31] <thig> the color quality
#4153 [23:31] <thig> did
#4154 [23:31] <jhches> Hey, thig take screenshot
#4155 [23:31] <PH0ENIX> jhches thats the error i was getting in linux
#4156 [23:31] <aetherian> you're running the launcher, right?
#4157 [23:31] <thig> I DONT KNOW HOW
#4158 [23:31] <aetherian> not the thing in .minecraft/bin
#4159 [23:32] <jhches> aetherian yes
#4160 [23:32] <thig> yes,the launcher
#4161 [23:32] <aetherian> whew
#4162 [23:32] <thig> how do you take a screenshot?
#4163 [23:32] <aetherian> I am not versed in java... whatever they're called's, so, ah, what is the -cp and the net.mine---
#4164 [23:33] <aetherian> oh
#4165 [23:33] <aetherian> right
#4166 [23:33] <jhches> no worries
#4167 [23:33] <jhches> I'm looking for answers on internet as well
#4168 [23:33] <aetherian> why do you need that, even?
#4169 [23:34] <mib_3kzrim> anyone know any good smp servers?
#4170 [23:34] <thig> besides,if i take a screenshot,i will have to restart because when this happens,internet doesnt work.it says tab recovered over and over
#4171 [23:34] <aetherian> why doesn't a "java -memory_stuff -jar minecraft.jar" work?
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#4173 [23:34] <aetherian> the -memory_stuff isn't even necessary, for that matter, technically.
#4174 [23:34] <thig> are we still talking about me?
#4175 [23:34] <aetherian> thig: no.
#4176 [23:35] <thig> awww
#4177 [23:35] <thig> please
#4178 [23:35] <jhches> thig take screenshot, then we can help u
#4179 [23:35] * morton [morton@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4180 [23:35] <thig> I DONT KNOW HOW
#4181 [23:35] <dopeghoti> F1+F2
#4182 [23:35] <aetherian> thig: to take a screenshot of the entire screen
#4183 [23:35] <jhches> Prt scr?
#4184 [23:35] <dopeghoti> then look in:
#4185 [23:35] <dopeghoti> ?? win/.minecraft
#4186 [23:35] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#4187 [23:35] <morton> hi i have a problem with the new 1.5 update
#4188 [23:35] <aetherian> oh hello dope
#4189 [23:35] <dopeghoti> morning, kids
#4190 [23:36] <aetherian> go right ahead
#4191 [23:36] <morton> when i try to go up ladders the guy twitches and goes nowhere
#4192 [23:37] <jhches> Lol. How do you put your ladder?
#4193 [23:37] <jhches> Is it full ladder or "half empty" ladder?
#4194 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> morton: are the ladders every-other-space?
#4195 [23:37] <morton> every other one
#4196 [23:37] <morton> ya
#4197 [23:37] <jhches> NOpe
#4198 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> that's the problem
#4199 [23:37] <jhches> Cant do that anymore
#4200 [23:37] <jhches> Must be full now
#4201 [23:37] <morton> why that in the update?
#4202 [23:37] <DopeGhoti> stop cheaping out and put in a real ladder
#4203 [23:37] <jhches> Yes
#4204 [23:37] <morton> lol ya no need to conserve now lol
#4205 [23:37] <jhches> Right, new update make you to have FULL ladder
#4206 [23:38] <jhches> yup
#4207 [23:38] <DopeGhoti> what next; skimping on methane venting? (:
#4208 [23:38] <morton> ok ill try that
#4209 [23:38] <morton> cannons?
#4210 [23:38] <morton> lol
#4211 [23:38] <jhches> Anyway, aetherian, you were right
#4212 [23:38] <jhches> that command was crap
#4213 [23:38] <jhches> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar worked finely
#4214 [23:38] <aetherian> \o/
#4215 [23:38] <jhches> but
#4216 [23:38] <aetherian> uh oh
#4217 [23:39] * aetherian runs away
#4217 [23:39] * DopeGhoti trips aetherian
#4217 [23:39] <jhches> same problem persist just as if I double click the .jar file
#4218 [23:39] <jhches> and have it run
#4219 [23:39] <jhches> It will crash every time I load up a new world or join a server....
#4220 [23:39] <aetherian> um
#4221 [23:39] <jhches> then I get error on the console
#4222 [23:39] <jhches> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:, blah blah blah
#4223 [23:40] <morton> i knows it beta now but do they know a release date like some video games are like on a certain day or is it gonna be a while
#4224 [23:40] <aetherian> fatal error
#4225 [23:40] <aetherian> this is manslaughter!
#4226 [23:40] <jhches> Umm
#4227 [23:40] <jhches> 11/11/11
#4228 [23:40] <jhches> is the release day
#4229 [23:40] <morton> serious
#4230 [23:40] <morton> ok thatll be nice
#4231 [23:40] <aetherian> I think that the answer is
#4232 [23:41] <morton> i think right u are
#4233 [23:41] <jhches> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/4423138657/11-11-11
#4234 [23:41] <jhches> Yup, manslaughter in fatal error... ><
#4235 [23:41] <jhches> So.. Im gonna blame.. java?
#4236 [23:41] <jhches> :(
#4237 [23:42] <morton> java does give u alotta errors
#4238 [23:42] <aetherian> well
#4239 [23:42] <jhches> But... fatal error!
#4240 [23:42] <aetherian> how is it launching it when you double click it
#4241 [23:42] <jhches> D:
#4242 [23:42] <jhches> Umm same
#4243 [23:42] <jhches> I think its linux's kernel problem
#4244 [23:42] <jhches> ugh
#4245 [23:42] <jhches> Lemme look it up hold on
#4246 [23:43] <aetherian> uh
#4247 [23:43] <DopeGhoti> uh
#4248 [23:43] <jhches> ?
#4249 [23:43] <DopeGhoti> I really doubt it's a Linux kernel issue
#4250 [23:43] <jhches> Yeah
#4251 [23:43] <jhches> it was
#4252 [23:43] <aetherian> uh
#4253 [23:43] <jhches> I read it somewhere
#4254 [23:43] <jhches> but lost it lol
#4255 [23:43] <morton> did he try copying his saves and redownloading the exe for the files?
#4256 [23:43] <DopeGhoti> If it were a kernel issue, the enture OS would be crashing, what with that being what the kernel _is_ and all
#4257 [23:43] <jhches> what?
#4258 [23:43] <jhches> Yes
#4259 [23:43] <jhches> i know
#4260 [23:43] <jhches> there' s no .exe for linux lol
#4261 [23:44] <DopeGhoti> Linux has executable files; it just doesn't care what the filename is.
#4262 [23:44] <jhches> Anyway, yes I know about that DopeGhoti, but someone revereted to older kernel and it worked for him lol\
#4263 [23:44] <DopeGhoti> that is.. baffling.
#4264 [23:44] <jhches> well, linux almost never use .exe lol
#4265 [23:44] <jhches> I know
#4266 [23:44] <jhches> Make me want to test it to see if it'll work....
#4267 [23:44] <aetherian> positively exquisite
#4268 [23:44] <aetherian> but
#4269 [23:44] <jhches> lol but i don't have time
#4270 [23:44] <aetherian> what's wrong with launching it in the terminal
#4271 [23:45] <aetherian> also, are you /sure/ it's launching the correct way when you double click it?
#4272 [23:45] <morton> r we the only ones here?
#4273 [23:45] <aetherian> there are 165 people here
#4274 [23:45] <aetherian> that's why we can't kill people -- too many witnesses.
#4275 [23:45] <jhches> Yes
#4276 [23:45] <DopeGhoti> jhches: GNOME GUI?
#4277 [23:45] <jhches> Umm, everyone else are idler
#4278 [23:45] <morton> theres only one person questioning does that make sense
#4279 [23:46] <DopeGhoti> did you try right-click → run with… → Sun JRE?
#4280 [23:46] <DopeGhoti> (do you have the Sun ^WOracle JRE installed?)
#4281 [23:46] <jhches> I cannot double click it or it'll be open with archive manager
#4282 [23:46] <jhches> anyway, I do what you are saying DopeGhoti
#4283 [23:46] <jhches> Yes
#4284 [23:46] <jhches> I have sun-java6-jre
#4285 [23:47] <jhches> i uninstalled OpenJDK
#4286 [23:47] <jhches> and change the...
#4287 [23:47] <DopeGhoti> and it will only run if you do it on the commandline and give it RAM paramaters?
#4288 [23:47] <DopeGhoti> Interesting.
#4289 [23:47] <jhches> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#4290 [23:47] <jhches> All started FINELY
#4291 [23:47] <jhches> any way, commandline, or right click
#4292 [23:47] <morton> one question guys
#4293 [23:47] <jhches> but when I START a level
#4294 [23:47] <jhches> it just gives "fatal error"
#4295 [23:47] <jhches> morton yeah?
#4296 [23:47] <DopeGhoti> oh. Oh!
#4297 [23:47] <DopeGhoti> Let me ask you this
#4298 [23:48] <morton> how do you make your computer update sound drivers and video driver automatically
#4299 [23:48] <DopeGhoti> any texture packs installed? Or mods of any sort?
#4300 [23:48] <jhches> nope
#4301 [23:48] <jhches> vanilla
#4302 [23:48] <DopeGhoti> ..phooey
#4303 [23:48] <jhches> morton Ummm... lol
#4304 [23:48] <DopeGhoti> and you've renamed or deleted ~/.minecraft/bin ?
#4305 [23:48] <jhches> morton I don't know.
#4306 [23:48] <DopeGhoti> morton: cron
#4307 [23:48] <jhches> Dopeghoti I'll try that
#4308 [23:48] <jhches> Cron?
#4309 [23:48] <jhches> Hmm
#4310 [23:48] <morton> cus i have windows update on and the drivers still are outdated
#4311 [23:48] <jhches> wth is that
#4312 [23:48] <jhches> Oh
#4313 [23:48] <jhches> window update doesn't update your driver
#4314 [23:49] <jhches> I mean, if you got nvidia or ati/amd
#4315 [23:49] <jhches> it doesn't.
#4316 [23:49] <morton> how then?
#4317 [23:49] <DopeGhoti> well, go to the manufacturers' sites, and download drivers
#4318 [23:49] <jhches> Yeah
#4319 [23:49] <jhches> What video card do u have
#4320 [23:50] <jhches> Huh
#4321 [23:50] <jhches> this is exactly what I have too
#4322 [23:50] <jhches> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=105618
#4323 [23:50] <morton> i have multiple drivers is there a specific one i should be looking for
#4324 [23:50] <jhches> I had a gut feeling
#4325 [23:50] <jhches> my ATI sucks... :(
#4326 [23:50] <jhches> I hate ATI and ubuntu
#4327 [23:50] <DopeGhoti> morton: the most recent one for your OS…?
#4328 [23:50] <jhches> should have freaking gotten nvidia
#4329 [23:50] <morton> ok lemme c
#4330 [23:50] <DopeGhoti> jhches: oh, ATI card in Linux? I'm sorry ☹
#4331 [23:50] <jhches> yeah
#4332 [23:51] <jhches> I hate AMD
#4333 [23:51] <jhches> well not hate them
#4334 [23:51] <DopeGhoti> don't get me wrong, I love AMD's CPUs
#4335 [23:51] <jhches> but, seriously, give me better driver
#4336 [23:51] <jhches> I know
#4337 [23:51] <jhches> me too, but ugh, come on.
#4338 [23:51] <DopeGhoti> but their GPU POSIX driver support is terrible
#4339 [23:51] <jhches> You are driving me away
#4340 [23:51] <jhches> *AMD
#4341 [23:51] <morton> well its not for this one its for my old new computer which i guess has outdated stuff
#4342 [23:51] <jhches> Morton
#4343 [23:51] <jhches> hodl on
#4344 [23:51] <jhches> *hold on
#4345 [23:51] * mib_thp4ob [mib_thp4ob@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4346 [23:51] <jhches> http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
#4347 [23:51] <jhches> go there
#4348 [23:52] * thig [thig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4349 [23:52] <jhches> and download the 1.57 setup
#4350 [23:52] <thig> im back!
#4351 [23:52] <morton> pretty annoying that theres updates every like 2 days so when u just get an update another one wont let u run something
#4352 [23:52] <jhches> at right most column
#4353 [23:52] <jhches> lol
#4354 [23:52] <jhches> then let me know what it say about your graphic card
#4355 [23:52] <jhches> thig so what's up?
#4356 [23:52] <thig> i took the screenshots,but where do i find them?
#4357 [23:53] <morton> ok ty
#4358 [23:53] <morton> :)
#4359 [23:53] <jhches> Umm
#4360 [23:53] <jhches> oh
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#4362 [23:53] <jhches> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#4363 [23:53] <jhches> from some one back up there
#4364 [23:54] <Mloeven> does anyone know how to set up the game so you can login without an internet connection
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#4366 [23:54] <Mloeven> like cached credentials
#4367 [23:54] <jhches> idk how
#4368 [23:54] <morton> thanks for the ladder help from before :)
#4369 [23:54] <jhches> np
#4370 [23:55] <jhches> K, DopeGhoti, I think I have better chance of using open source driver for ATI lol
#4371 [23:55] <jhches> I'll look around
#4372 [23:55] <thig> where is everybidy
#4373 [23:55] <thig> there are not there
#4374 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> Mloeven: log in once, then if your connection is down, you will have a 'play offline' option
#4375 [23:55] <jhches> really
#4376 [23:55] <jhches> you looked in .minecraft folder?
#4377 [23:55] <thig> i didnttake screenshots in minecraft
#4378 [23:55] <DopeGhoti> jhches: worth a try
#4379 [23:55] <morton> wut did u want to know jhches about by OS?
#4380 [23:55] <jhches> Oh
#4381 [23:55] <jhches> no, the grahpic
#4382 [23:55] <jhches> go to the graphic tab
#4383 [23:55] <morton> ok hold on
#4384 [23:55] <jhches> tell me general info from there
#4385 [23:56] <Mloeven> i have logged in several times and no option to go offline that i can see.... unless i need to check save password ??
#4386 [23:56] <Mloeven> where is it on the screen
#4387 [23:56] <jhches> thig
#4388 [23:56] <jhches> thig did you press print screen?
#4389 [23:56] <thig> what?
#4390 [23:56] <morton> nvidia nvs 3100m
#4391 [23:56] <thig> print screen?
#4392 [23:56] <jhches> thig how did you take the screenshot?
#4393 [23:56] <jhches> morton hold on
#4394 [23:56] <m0nk> after you type in you'r password and it fails <- notice. then you can go offline
#4395 [23:56] <thig> f1 f2
#4396 [23:56] <morton> ok np
#4397 [23:56] <morton> hes trying to find a screen shot?
#4398 [23:57] <thig> yep
#4399 [23:57] <jhches> Yeah
#4400 [23:57] <DopeGhoti> Mloeven: attempt to connect, and when it fails, 'play offline' will be a presented option
#4401 [23:57] <morton> ya i was trying to learn all the keys and i guess i took like 3
#4402 [23:57] <jhches> morton http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
#4403 [23:57] <morton> ty
#4404 [23:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> morton gpu/nvidia
#4405 [23:57] <jhches> thig well, if that doesn't work for you then...
#4406 [23:57] <VoxelHead> morton: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#4407 [23:57] <m0nk> prt scr (print screen) is right aboce ins wich is over del
#4408 [23:58] <jhches> yeah but then he gotta go to paint and save it
#4409 [23:58] <thig> more clearly please
#4410 [23:58] <jhches> paint program
#4411 [23:58] <thig> m0nk
#4412 [23:58] <jhches> Okay, what we're saying is, can you find "Prt Scr" button?
#4413 [23:58] <morton> ok ty
#4414 [23:58] <morton> wut about sound card?
#4415 [23:58] <m0nk> paste it there and save it as something. then upload
#4416 [23:58] <thig> oh,ya
#4417 [23:58] <DopeGhoti> morton: there is no 'u' in 'what'.
#4418 [23:58] <jhches> I'm not good with sound card
#4419 [23:59] <thig> paste the screen shot?
#4420 [23:59] <jhches> thig yes
#4421 [23:59] <jhches> thig paste it in any program, I use MSpaint
#4422 [23:59] <jhches> thig THEN save it.
#4423 [23:59] <morton> ok then sry umm let me rephrase this
#4424 [23:59] <thig> i still dont know where to find it
#4425 [23:59] <DopeGhoti> jhches: F1+F2 in-game is.. a lot easier :p
#4426 [23:59] <jhches> He tried that
#4427 [23:59] <jhches> appaerly doesn't work
#4428 [23:59] <jhches> for him
#4429 [23:59] <DopeGhoti> not hard enough ☺
#4430 [23:59] <thig> not in game!
#4431 [23:59] <morton> what about my sound card does this some program say it too?