#1 [00:00] <jhches> probably
#2 [00:00] <jhches> morton check it out
#3 [00:00] <m0nk> take a pic of what you have trouble with. go - run - write paint - open paint - paste it using the paste function - save it to desktop - go to some pic site then upload it there
#4 [00:00] <m0nk> err
#5 [00:00] <m0nk> take a pic with prt scr
#6 [00:00] * DopeGhoti should add some TeamViewer FAQs.
#6 [00:00] <morton> what tab would ut be under
#7 [00:00] <jhches> lol
#8 [00:00] <thig> i have teamviewr,wanna use that?
#9 [00:00] <morton> lol sorry what tab is it under
#10 [00:01] <jhches> TeamViewer would help tons
#11 [00:01] <m0nk> tab what?
#12 [00:01] <jhches> morton umm im not sure
#13 [00:01] <m0nk> tab extra?
#14 [00:01] <jhches> He's using Cpuz program to figure out what his laptop have
#15 [00:01] <morton> is there another program that shows sound card info?
#16 [00:01] <thig> lets do pms or whatever
#17 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> ah, rather than that, use this:
#18 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> morton win/dxdiag
#19 [00:01] <VoxelHead> morton: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#20 [00:01] <VoxelHead> morton: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#21 [00:02] <thig> jhches
#22 [00:02] <Mloeven> ah right it does show up after a failed login :)
#23 [00:02] <Mloeven> thanks
#24 [00:02] <m0nk> right click my computer press manage press device manager and see screen adapters
#25 [00:02] <m0nk> for the graphics card
#26 [00:02] <morton> ok ummmmm let me try that.........
#27 [00:02] <DopeGhoti> Mloeven: that'll be €8 ☻
#28 [00:02] <thig> jhches,teamviewer?
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#30 [00:03] <jhches> thig PM
#31 [00:03] <thig> oh sorry
#32 [00:03] <i81u812> I have some interesting screenshots I was wondering how i find them?
#33 [00:03] <i81u812> I have squid in the air in a cave @ lvl 29
#34 [00:03] <i81u812> over a little stream
#35 [00:03] <DopeGhoti> ??> i81u812 win/,minecraft
#36 [00:03] <morton> lol im jinxing us ive seen maybe 3 or 4 people join since ive been here i might be bad luck
#37 [00:03] <DopeGhoti> ??> i81u812 win/.minecraft
#38 [00:03] <VoxelHead> i81u812: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#39 [00:04] <i81u812> yeah Ive been there are the screenshots saved ... nvm im going now
#40 [00:05] <morton> i know you guys want to see the dxdiag .txt file i will show you but what am i looking for if i try on another computer?
#41 [00:05] <i81u812> awesome though 4 squid floating in air..
#42 [00:05] <jhches> lol
#43 [00:05] <i81u812> you can see all the teeth up close
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#45 [00:06] <DopeGhoti> morton: in your case, the sound card manufacturer and model
#46 [00:07] <morton> ok heres the pastebin
#47 [00:07] <morton> http://pastebin.com/xC3dkB84
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#49 [00:08] <jhches> I'm not sure if I'm right or not
#50 [00:08] <jhches> I think Window 7 automatically update your sound driver and it should work just fine
#51 [00:08] <morton> just a random question whats the best processor you can get for a laptop or desktop?
#52 [00:08] <jhches> But its different story for your video card though. Correct me if I'm wrong.
#53 [00:09] <DopeGhoti> okay, if your audio drivers are in fact not up-to-date, you'll want to google for Conexant 20585 SmartAudio HD to find the drivers.
#54 [00:09] <morton> lol ya thatll probably be the heaven for the other computer
#55 [00:10] <DopeGhoti> (that was from line 124 of your paste)
#56 [00:10] <DopeGhoti> (so you know where to look from similar logs on other PCs)
#57 [00:10] <morton> is there such thing as over patching?
#58 [00:11] <DopeGhoti> only if you're a bad quiltmaker
#59 [00:11] <morton> haaaaaa yes i am your mean
#60 [00:11] <jhches> lol
#61 [00:12] <jhches> Well, just dont patch when a new driver is out RIGHT away
#62 [00:12] <jhches> just wait and see what people's reaction to that driver is like
#63 [00:12] <morton> no i mean about minecraft now
#64 [00:12] <jhches> One time there was a bad patch for nvidia that caused over heating
#65 [00:12] <jhches> and it was... bad. :-\
#66 [00:12] <morton> or any game
#67 [00:12] <DopeGhoti> "I thoguht it was pretty hot, jhches" ☻
#68 [00:12] <jhches> heh
#69 [00:13] <jhches> Ohh
#70 [00:13] <jhches> for games?
#71 [00:13] <morton> ya my other computer overheated while playing minecraft took up too much cpu
#72 [00:13] <jhches> No such thing as overpatching imo
#73 [00:14] <morton> more like patching so no more patches are needed and they no longer need to or dont want to
#74 [00:14] <morton> is there such thing as that?
#75 [00:14] <morton> not patching because of laziness?
#76 [00:16] <morton> well do any of you guys help with minecraft patching becuase i just wanted to thank whoever does
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#78 [00:17] <morton> herro?
#79 [00:17] <morton> X)
#80 [00:17] <morton> ??
#81 [00:18] <morton> aniiiiiiiiiiiiii body....................
#82 [00:18] <morton> ok well thank you guys nighty nighhht
#83 [00:18] <DopeGhoti> morton: we're all volunteers here; no one in here works for Mojang.
#84 [00:19] <DopeGhoti> no one who's talking anyhow
#85 [00:19] <morton> awwwwwwww u should get some recognition they should give you some benefits
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#88 [00:20] <morton> is xales here??
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#91 [00:22] <DopeGhoti> No, xales is there, as are you. I am here.
#92 [00:22] <jhches> lol
#93 [00:22] <jhches> aww
#94 [00:22] <jhches> we're only one here
#95 [00:23] <jhches> Okay, so I talked with thig
#96 [00:23] <jhches> and looked at his problem...
#97 [00:23] <jhches> its strange.
#98 [00:23] <jhches> let me get pic out
#99 [00:23] <jhches> which picture hosting should I use?
#100 [00:23] <jhches> hmm
#101 [00:23] <jhches> ImageShack?
#102 [00:24] <bread> nooo
#103 [00:24] <bread> imgur
#104 [00:24] <jhches> imgur ok ty
#105 [00:24] <bread> imageshack suuucks
#106 [00:24] <DopeGhoti> I find imgur pretty straightforward. Or Picasa
#107 [00:24] <jhches> I knew it sucked
#108 [00:24] <DopeGhoti> ..or Dropbox (:
#109 [00:24] <jhches> I just dont know another
#110 [00:24] <jhches> lol
#111 [00:24] <bread> yay dropbox :>
#112 [00:24] <jhches> http://i.imgur.com/D9bn1.png
#113 [00:25] <jhches> lol
#114 [00:25] <DopeGhoti> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2170691/Versions-Past.jpg
#115 [00:25] <jhches> I'm gonna say its his driver?
#116 [00:25] <jhches> heh nice pic
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#118 [00:25] <bread> lol that's awesome, DopeGhoti
#119 [00:25] <DopeGhoti> yeah, that definitely looks like the video driver is either broken or just not up to Minecraft.
#120 [00:26] <jhches> Hmm
#121 [00:26] <DopeGhoti> what video card is thig running?
#122 [00:26] <jhches> I'll do dxdiag on him
#123 [00:26] <jhches> i have no shitty idea
#124 [00:26] <jhches> *sorry
#125 [00:26] <jhches> It was weird and awkward
#126 [00:26] <DopeGhoti> my money's on "Cheap Intel chipset that makes the S3 Virge look _incredible_"
#127 [00:26] <jhches> because he was using IE
#128 [00:26] <jhches> lol
#129 [00:26] <jhches> I'm like.. oh noes, IE
#130 [00:26] <DopeGhoti> heh, I know the feeling
#131 [00:27] <jhches> with TONS of toolbars
#132 [00:27] <jhches> sigh, I wish I can help everyone with that problem
#133 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> $CLIENT still requires us to support IE6 on their site. *6*.
#134 [00:27] <jhches> or just give them the ....
#135 [00:27] <jhches> what
#136 [00:27] <jhches> LOL
#137 [00:27] <jhches> That's true though.
#138 [00:27] <jhches> very true. :(
#139 [00:28] <DopeGhoti> nice choice of OS though, if not of IRC client (:
#140 [00:28] <jhches> lol
#141 [00:28] <jhches> I couldn't decide on IRC client...
#142 [00:28] <DopeGhoti> irssi
#143 [00:28] <DopeGhoti> or, if you _must_ have a GUI, xChat.
#144 [00:28] <jhches> so I'm like, screw this, use internet IRC, everything's going cloud so why not.
#145 [00:28] <jhches> irssi
#146 [00:28] <jhches> i'll look up
#147 [00:29] <jhches> You know what's funny?
#148 [00:29] <jhches> I only have just discovered the joy of irc
#149 [00:29] <jhches> because of Valve's Portal 2 ARG
#150 [00:29] <DopeGhoti> http://www.irssi.org/themefiles/greenbox.png
#151 [00:29] <jhches> :-\
#152 [00:29] <jhches> Damn, sexy
#153 [00:29] <DopeGhoti> (example screenie of irssi in action)
#154 [00:30] <DopeGhoti> when paired with bitlbee, you have all your timewasting chatting in one place ☻
#155 [00:30] <jhches> Ohh man
#156 [00:30] <jhches> paired.. with chat programs
#157 [00:30] <DopeGhoti> (bitlbee is an AIM/MSMS/gTalk/YIM ↔ IRC bridge)
#158 [00:30] <jhches> Yeah...
#159 [00:30] <jhches> Eh, even though I dont really use those that much
#160 [00:30] <jhches> but if it can bridge facebook chat
#161 [00:30] <DopeGhoti> I do at work
#162 [00:30] <jhches> I'm sold
#163 [00:31] <jhches> Hmm
#164 [00:31] <jhches> okay
#165 [00:31] <DopeGhoti> which gives me a _great_ excuse to have IRC
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#167 [00:31] <jhches> heh
#168 [00:31] <DopeGhoti> IDK whether bitlbee does FB
#169 [00:31] <DopeGhoti> I _think_ so
#170 [00:31] <jhches> I hope so
#171 [00:31] <DopeGhoti> http://wiki.bitlbee.org/HowtoFacebook
#172 [00:32] <jhches> yup
#173 [00:32] <jhches> just saw that
#174 [00:32] <jhches> i'll give it a shot
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#176 [00:32] <jhches> Oh question
#177 [00:32] <DopeGhoti> Answer.
#178 [00:32] <jhches> about issri
#179 [00:33] <PH0ENIX> hey all
#180 [00:33] <jhches> I mean
#181 [00:33] <jhches> irssi
#182 [00:33] * VoxelHead returns
#182 [00:33] <VoxelHead> * wave at ph0enix
#183 [00:33] <jhches> lol
#184 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> yes?
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#186 [00:33] <jhches> How does it alert you of incoming message?
#187 [00:33] <PH0ENIX> if i want to backup my old server map and make a new one...
#188 [00:33] <PH0ENIX> can i just move the exe to a new folder and start it there?
#189 [00:33] <jhches> Yeah, you can
#190 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> The name of the channel with become highlighted; bold white for activity; yellow for selected highlights such as your nick
#191 [00:33] <PH0ENIX> awesome
#192 [00:33] <jhches> but you'l have to reconfigure all of setting
#193 [00:33] <DopeGhoti> this is, of course, configurable
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#195 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> you can even have it send ASCII BELs if you want it to
#196 [00:34] <jhches> dopeghoti okay ty. I was wondering, cuz if it only does sound, then im sol
#197 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> (but why‽)
#198 [00:34] <jhches> Oh, cuz, i'm deaf irl
#199 [00:34] * DopeGhoti nods
#199 [00:34] * thig [thig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#200 [00:34] <DopeGhoti> by default, it's strictly visual.
#201 [00:35] <thig> im baaaaaaaaaack
#202 [00:35] <jhches> yeah, then its for me
#203 [00:35] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE baaaaaaaaaack? feel these nipples!
#204 [00:35] <DopeGhoti> snazzy
#205 [00:35] <jhches> sanp!
#206 [00:35] <jhches> *snap!
#207 [00:35] <thig> gross
#208 [00:35] <brainteaser> hmm so i haven't logged in minecraft in a while and it wont accept my account info anymore anyone here can help me or give me info?
#209 [00:35] <DopeGhoti> gross (n): A set of 144 items.
#210 [00:35] <jhches> lol
#211 [00:35] <jhches> brainteaser idk if we can really help you with that...
#212 [00:35] <DopeGhoti> brainteaser: have you tried clearing out and re-entering both your account name and password? If so, have you tried using the password reset tool?
#213 [00:36] <thig> so jhches,did you send them the picture?
#214 [00:36] <jhches> anyway thig
#215 [00:36] <jhches> Yes
#216 [00:36] <jhches> I did
#217 [00:36] <thig> alright
#218 [00:36] <brainteaser> tried the password reset tool it sends me a java error
#219 [00:36] <jhches> we need to know what kind of video card you have i'll pm you
#220 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> email support@mojang.com; there's nothing we can do for account issues; sorry brainteaser ☹
#221 [00:37] <brainteaser> ll its kewl thanks
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#224 [00:54] * VoxelHead is away: pornography
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#225 [00:56] <Turdfaice> anyone still able to run multiplayer on 1.5?
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#227 [00:57] <thig> pm me
#228 [00:59] <Turdfaice> anyone able to run Minecraft on Multiplayer 1.5
#229 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> Turdfaice: …probably
#230 [00:59] <DopeGhoti> when they're not running Portal 2
#231 [01:00] <Turdfaice> because when I attempt to login on any server...it just goes out to windows after unresponsive
#232 [01:00] <Turdfaice> and thats with 2 computers
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#234 [01:04] <jhches> hmm
#235 [01:04] <jhches> It should work
#236 [01:04] <jhches> I upgraded my server to 1.5_2
#237 [01:04] <jhches> and my friend can join
#238 [01:04] <jhches> but I think most server is staying 1.4 or something
#239 [01:05] <jhches> until most of bugs are fixe
#240 [01:05] <jhches> *fixed
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#244 [01:10] <thig> pm me
#245 [01:11] <DopeGhoti> thig: but what if it's after 00:00, and thus AM?
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#247 [01:11] <jhches> lol
#248 [01:12] <mermi> anyone know of a good SMP server that's whitelisted? Tired of griefers on public servers
#249 [01:12] <DopeGhoti> mermi: I do, but you're not on the whitelist
#250 [01:12] <DopeGhoti> that said..
#251 [01:12] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers/specific
#252 [01:12] <VoxelHead> smp/servers/specific: Kealper would suggest smp.shadow-craft.net. Enjoy!
#253 [01:12] <jhches> what is that
#254 [01:12] <jhches> ?? smp/servers/specific
#255 [01:12] <VoxelHead> smp/servers/specific: Kealper would suggest smp.shadow-craft.net. Enjoy!
#256 [01:12] <jhches> lmao
#257 [01:12] <jhches> Bot
#258 [01:13] <mermi> Was looking for a server that's active 24/7, and whitelisted :/
#259 [01:13] <DopeGhoti> ??>> jhches help
#260 [01:13] <jhches> Awesome
#261 [01:13] <DopeGhoti> I do what I can
#262 [01:13] * DopeGhoti givex vox a pat on the head
#262 [01:14] <jhches> ??>
#263 [01:14] <jhches> oops wrong button
#264 [01:14] * thid [thid@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#265 [01:14] <jhches> ??<
#266 [01:14] <thid> what?
#267 [01:14] <DopeGhoti> you kind of need to specify a keyword.
#268 [01:14] <DopeGhoti> such as 'index'
#269 [01:15] <thid> what?
#270 [01:15] <jhches> Its for me lol
#271 [01:15] <thid> oh
#272 [01:15] <jhches> thid, check ur pm, if I think you are the same person as before
#273 [01:16] <jhches> ??< index
#274 [01:16] <jhches> Okay ty
#275 [01:17] <xales> O_o
#276 [01:17] <xales> ??< index
#277 [01:17] <xales> oh, that
#278 [01:17] <DopeGhoti> xales: you still need to fix the rules.
#279 [01:17] <xales> ._. I know
#280 [01:18] <DopeGhoti> This has been your daily reminder for 20 Apr 2011. We now return to the regularly scheduled frivolity, already in progress.
#281 [01:18] <jhches> Yeah!
#282 [01:18] <jhches> I tried accessing rules.html when I first came here
#283 [01:18] <jhches> didn't work...
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#285 [01:19] <xales> DopeGhoti: It's hiding in a multi-gigabyte bzipped tar file
#286 [01:19] <xales> :<
#287 [01:19] <DopeGhoti> jhches: in short: "Don't be a dick. Don't abuse the bots terrible. Listen to the ops."
#288 [01:20] <DopeGhoti> s/terrible/terribly/
#289 [01:20] <jhches> lol
#290 [01:20] <jhches> Good
#291 [01:21] <DopeGhoti> (if only all chanels could be successfully run with just that ruleset ☻)
#292 [01:21] <DopeGhoti> oigh, I hope this damn script finishes soon; my typing skills are apparently degrading, and there's more work to be done once it's done percolating :/
#293 [01:21] <xales> DopeGhoti: What font do you use? That character is barely visible on mine :|
#294 [01:22] <DopeGhoti> xales: Droid Sans Mono; size depends on whether I'm on my desktop, my Mac at work, or my eee.
#295 [01:22] <DopeGhoti> but varies between 6px and 10px
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#297 [01:23] <DopeGhoti> ⚛ ← Does that one render redably for you, xales?
#298 [01:23] <xales> Err, not really
#299 [01:24] <xales> it looks like a...snowflake maybe?
#300 [01:24] <xales> It's very small
#301 [01:24] <m0nk> 2560x1600 ftw xales?
#302 [01:24] <Turdfaice> IS the Minecraft up and running for Multiplayer I can run on the servers
#303 [01:24] <xales> I'm on my laptop :|
#304 [01:24] <Turdfaice> shit
#305 [01:24] <xales> Turdfaice: What?
#306 [01:24] <DopeGhoti> vox, give xales some glasses
#307 [01:25] <xales> I already have them ._.
#308 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> oh, he's asleep :p
#309 [01:25] <Turdfaice> Im trying to run minecraft on my computer and my girls computer its not coming up on any of the servers
#310 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> Turdfaice: define "it's not coming up"
#311 [01:25] <Turdfaice> it says logging in......then times out.....and goes back to windows
#312 [01:26] <xales> What username are you trying to log in with?
#313 [01:26] <Turdfaice> turdfaice
#314 [01:26] <DopeGhoti> you'll be so proud of that selection in five years.
#315 [01:27] <Turdfaice> like right now it says Connecting to the Server.....and it just stays
#316 [01:27] <Turdfaice> and it is now saying timed out
#317 [01:27] <DopeGhoti> running any sort of firewall or similar security software?
#318 [01:28] <xales> and are you sure that the IP you are entering is correct, and actually has a Minecraft server running?
#319 [01:28] <xales> DopeGhoti: rules.html is now in the same folder VoxelHead is uploading the index to
#320 [01:28] <xales> http://faq.xales.info/rules.html
#321 [01:28] <Turdfaice> hold on I am going to turn off my firewall real quick and my antivirus
#322 [01:28] <xales> feel free to edit
#323 [01:30] <DopeGhoti> Thanks, xales; you're a peack.
#324 [01:30] <DopeGhoti> er, peach
#325 [01:30] <Turdfaice> not working
#326 [01:30] <Turdfaice> and I tried multiple servers....not coming up
#327 [01:30] <Turdfaice> and I also tried with another computer
#328 [01:31] <DopeGhoti> try connecing to smp.shadow-craft.net; a known-good server
#329 [01:31] <DopeGhoti> xales: also, ♥ the white-on-black. I heartily approve, no pun intended.
#330 [01:31] <xales> lol
#331 [01:32] <Turdfaice> @DopeGhoti - Is there the standard port right?
#332 [01:32] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/port
#333 [01:32] <VoxelHead> smp/port: TCP port 25565
#334 [01:32] <jhches> Damn, my laptop doesn't like that rules.html
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#336 [01:33] <jhches> only 1366x768 :-\
#337 [01:33] <Turdfaice> Gotcha...Yeah it came up
#338 [01:33] <Turdfaice> thanks
#339 [01:33] <jhches> Hey Turdfaice
#340 [01:33] <xarcus> hello anyone try there "mods" in th enew version of Minecraft yet?
#341 [01:33] <jhches> You running your server in lan?
#342 [01:34] <Turdfaice> no sorry
#343 [01:34] <jhches> I mean, are you trying to connect your minecraft server through same network? (Home network)
#344 [01:34] <jhches> Same router/switches etc
#345 [01:34] <Turdfaice> oh haha I dont have a server
#346 [01:34] <jhches> Oh
#347 [01:34] <jhches> OHH nvm, you are just trying to connect to another server
#348 [01:34] <Turdfaice> haha yeah
#349 [01:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> xarcus mods
#350 [01:35] <VoxelHead> xarcus: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#351 [01:35] <VoxelHead> xarcus: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#352 [01:35] <xales> DopeGhoti: I think that link is now invalid (the first one)
#353 [01:35] <xales> Nope, nevermind
#354 [01:35] <jhches> K
#355 [01:35] <jhches> so, thing with thig
#356 [01:36] <jhches> is that he got Intel® 965 Express Chipset video card
#357 [01:36] <jhches> and imo, I dont think it can run Minecraft EVER.
#358 [01:36] <DopeGhoti> yep.. that's tripe
#359 [01:36] <DopeGhoti> he needs to get a real video card.
#360 [01:36] <jhches> I told him that he's sol.
#361 [01:36] <jhches> Yup
#362 [01:36] <jhches> So, if someone else come in here with that express chipset
#363 [01:36] <jhches> its worthless
#364 [01:37] <jhches> even tho if it can run warcraft 3, sorry.
#365 [01:37] <jhches> doesn't work on minecraft
#366 [01:37] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft is far more GPU-intensive than Warcraft 3
#367 [01:37] <xales> s/GPU/everything
#368 [01:37] <jhches> heh
#369 [01:37] <jhches> yeah
#370 [01:38] <jhches> I remembered when WC3 came out
#371 [01:38] <jhches> It was fun, even on crappy video card
#372 [01:38] <jhches> 15 fps, I loved it. :P
#373 [01:38] <jhches> K, now I have time to try irssi
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#376 [01:40] <jhches> I'm curious
#377 [01:40] <jhches> if modding api is added
#378 [01:40] <jhches> will we "support" modding? :P
#379 [01:40] <DopeGhoti> FCVO support
#380 [01:40] <xales> We will cross that massive gap when we get to it
#381 [01:40] <xales> s/gap/ravine
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#383 [01:41] <jhches> Ya
#384 [01:41] <jhches> Funny, I don't use any
#385 [01:41] <xales> DopeGhoti: Have you used file ACLs at all before?
#386 [01:41] <DopeGhoti> Depends on what you mean
#387 [01:42] <xales> Along the lines of: # setfacl -m "u:username:permissions"
#388 [01:42] <DopeGhoti> Can't say that I have
#389 [01:42] <xales> "Access Control List provides an additional, more flexible permission mechanism for file systems. It is designed to assist with UNIX file permissions. ACL allows you to give permissions for any user or group to any disc resource. "
#390 [01:44] <DopeGhoti> I've been doing just fine with standard ext{2,3,4}fs permissions
#391 [01:44] <DopeGhoti> user/group SGrwx
#392 [01:45] <xales> I'm investigating it as a way to provide virtual FTP users without hacking PAM
#393 [01:46] <DopeGhoti> create standard users, have them use scp, and chsh their shells to /bin/false
#394 [01:47] <xales> bleh, probably a better idea
#395 [01:47] <xales> I still need to write my user script that I have been planning for...years now :<
#396 [01:49] <xales> I got as far as
#397 [01:49] <xales> [xales@stratos oldvps]$ sudo /root/scripts/user.pl
#398 [01:49] <xales> Username: test
#399 [01:49] <xales> Create group for user[y/n]: y
#400 [01:49] <xales> useradd -m -U -G users,limited test
#401 [01:49] <xales> :<
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#403 [01:49] <LoneBlackfang> Hey
#404 [01:49] <xales> Hi
#405 [01:50] <DopeGhoti> uh..
#406 [01:50] <DopeGhoti> so you're rewriting `adduser`?
#407 [01:50] <xales> DopeGhoti: adduser doesn't have an option to use usergroups or whatever the name for it is
#408 [01:50] <xales> or, if it does, it doesn't work
#409 [01:50] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#410 [01:50] <xales> :|
#411 [01:51] <xales> not my fault if it's broken
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#414 [01:53] <jhches> DopeGhoti can you help me for a quick bit.
#415 [01:53] <DopeGhoti> I can sure try
#416 [01:54] <jhches> /network add
#417 [01:54] <jhches> /server add
#418 [01:54] <jhches> I only plan on doing server
#419 [01:54] <DopeGhoti> you're looking to connect to a second server?
#420 [01:54] <jhches> not network
#421 [01:54] <jhches> is they any reason to do /network add?
#422 [01:54] <xales> You should still add a network, unless one already exists to which the server belongs
#423 [01:54] <jhches> Oh
#424 [01:54] <xales> /network add espernet
#425 [01:55] <jhches> like irc.esper.net
#426 [01:55] <xales> /server add -network espernet irc.esper.net
#427 [01:55] <DopeGhoti> right, networks are groups of servers, etc.
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#429 [01:55] <xales> for example
#430 [01:55] <jhches> Hmmmm. Okay ty
#431 [01:55] <DopeGhoti> that way you can later just /connect espernet
#432 [01:55] <jhches> -autosendcmd?
#433 [01:55] <jhches> btw, how do I know which network to add to a specific server?
#434 [01:55] <jhches> I knew it was irc.esper.net
#435 [01:55] <xales> Command to send automatically upon connection
#436 [01:55] <jhches> but not espernet for network
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#438 [01:56] <Neshfi> Does anyone know why I can`t reach minecraft.net, but can reach all other pages like /download.jsp or /play.jsp?
#439 [01:56] <xales> You add servers to networks, and you can name the network whatever
#440 [01:56] <xales> since this network is called "EsperNet", I called the network espernet
#441 [01:56] <jhches> OH
#442 [01:56] <jhches> that totally make sense
#443 [01:56] <xales> all servers on the same network should...be in the same network group on your client
#444 [01:56] <jhches> Neshfi I'm having problem too I guess its down.
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#446 [01:56] <jhches> xales right
#447 [01:56] <xales> DopeGhoti: So..what, just run groupadd first? D:
#448 [01:57] <DopeGhoti> that'd do it, sure
#449 [01:57] <xales> Better solutions?
#450 [01:57] <DopeGhoti> all of the adduser scripts I've seen and used have properly handles usergroups
#451 [01:58] <Te22o2> Could anyone help me with a quick question..
#452 [01:58] <jhches> we can
#453 [01:58] <Te22o2> ok
#454 [01:59] <xales> DopeGhoti: http://pastebin.com/4fZSgRUk
#455 [01:59] <Te22o2> When I goto to type in the IP of the server I wanna join after I open the MC client
#456 [01:59] <jhches> yes?
#457 [01:59] <Te22o2> I get and error say java.netsocketexception: connection reset?
#458 [02:00] <jhches> Meaning
#459 [02:00] <jhches> Well, in most case
#460 [02:00] <jhches> it mean the version between client and server are different
#461 [02:00] <jhches> and you cant connect to them
#462 [02:00] <Te22o2> o icic
#463 [02:00] <jhches> *It doesnt literally mean that
#464 [02:00] <Te22o2> well im running 1.5.1 now
#465 [02:00] <jhches> but one of the reason why that happened may be that
#466 [02:00] <Te22o2> it just wont let me connect
#467 [02:00] <jhches> hold on
#468 [02:01] <Te22o2> is there anyway to downgrade...
#469 [02:01] <xales> Te22o2: Try "smp.shadow-craft.net"
#470 [02:01] <xales> as the IP
#471 [02:02] <Te22o2> it let me in there..
#472 [02:02] <jhches> Its probably cuz smp.shadow-craft.net is updated
#473 [02:02] <xales> Then the server you are connecting to is not running or outdated
#474 [02:02] <jhches> Yup
#475 [02:02] <jhches> Okay, last question about irc, /Channel Add... ?
#476 [02:03] <jhches> /channel add -auto something?
#477 [02:03] <DopeGhoti> jhches: auto-join channels on connect to server
#478 [02:03] <jhches> I did /server add -auto -network EsperNet irc.esper.net
#479 [02:03] <jhches> OH
#480 [02:03] <jhches> D'oh, channel, like this minecrafthelp
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#482 [02:03] <jhches> I'm slow, I guess I'm tired.
#483 [02:04] <DopeGhoti> it is 2304
#484 [02:04] <jhches> lol
#485 [02:04] <jhches> yes, it is 2304 for me too
#486 [02:04] <xales> DopeGhoti: "oh my god u use military time omg omg omg"
#487 [02:04] <xales> :<
#488 [02:05] <DopeGhoti> …
#489 [02:05] <jhches> Its faster than typing am and pm at end
#490 [02:05] * xales points at " "
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#491 [02:05] <DopeGhoti> I use "the timekeeping system everywhere on the world uses except lazy-ass US civilians that can't add or subtract 12"
#492 [02:05] <jhches> lol
#493 [02:05] <xales> That reaction seems to be mandatory in this channel, so I was providing it
#494 [02:06] <DopeGhoti> ah
#495 [02:06] <DopeGhoti> well, so was my surraction :p
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#497 [02:07] <josiah> Hmm
#498 [02:08] <DopeGhoti> 'lo
#499 [02:08] <josiah> This is strange experience for me. Using irssi. But I kinda like it.
#500 [02:08] <DopeGhoti> One of usssssss
#501 [02:08] <xales> As you now see, resistance really was futile
#502 [02:08] <DopeGhoti> "We are PentiumⓇ of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated."
#503 [02:09] <josiah> Alright I'll have a lot of configures to do on this irssi
#504 [02:09] <josiah> Thanks for you help
#505 [02:09] <josiah> exit
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#507 [02:10] <jhches> *Thank you for your help lol
#508 [02:12] <DopeGhoti> cheers! \o
#509 [02:12] <xales> jhches: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
#510 [02:12] <jhches> Ah ty
#511 [02:13] * aetherian is spoiled by gui irc, for the most part.
#511 [02:13] <xales> "spoiled"
#512 [02:14] <aetherian> How would you phrase it, then?
#513 [02:14] <DopeGhoti> "ruined"?
#514 [02:14] <xales> "rui...
#515 [02:14] <xales> ninjas
#516 [02:14] <aetherian> hurr hurr
#517 [02:14] <DopeGhoti> ☹
#518 [02:15] <aetherian> I use two clients
#519 [02:15] <aetherian> really
#520 [02:16] <aetherian> but I only use the text only one when I am confined to a terminal.
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#522 [02:18] <DopeGhoti> jhches: irssi + screen = win
#523 [02:20] <jhches> Yeah, I'm reading it right now
#524 [02:20] <jhches> it seems so cool
#525 [02:20] * aetherian googles screen
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#526 [02:21] * aetherian ow
#526 [02:22] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: screen is VNC for console
#527 [02:22] <DopeGhoti> (vice versa, rally, but yeah)
#528 [02:22] <DopeGhoti> can has type.
#529 [02:22] <aetherian> but it can't be used in a full screen terminal, I see.
#530 [02:22] <DopeGhoti> it.. what?
#531 [02:23] <DopeGhoti> yes it can
#532 [02:23] <DopeGhoti> it can be used in any tty
#533 [02:23] <aetherian> so annoying googling things with common names
#534 [02:23] <jhches> Yeah
#535 [02:23] <jhches> I've tried it in full screen, but...
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#537 [02:23] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: google for 'GNU screen' then
#538 [02:25] <aetherian> ow
#539 [02:25] <jhches> http://i.imgur.com/ZZiJI.jpg
#540 [02:25] <jhches> look at bottom
#541 [02:25] <jhches> Cant it be complete at bottom I dont want blank space below the black bar
#542 [02:26] <xales> Get a better {Terminal emulator, window manager}
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#544 [02:26] <DopeGhoti> jhches: that's because your window has less than one terminal line's worth of space after the last line
#545 [02:26] <jhches> yea I know... i was wondering if there is a way to change that... :3
#546 [02:26] <DopeGhoti> change the window size, or change font size
#547 [02:26] <jhches> better terminal emulator then.. okay i'll look up
#548 [02:27] <DopeGhoti> it's not a terminal emulator issue, it's a math issue
#549 [02:27] <xales> Resize emulator off the screen
#550 [02:27] <xales> :|
#551 [02:27] <DopeGhoti> say each text cell is 10px high
#552 [02:27] <jhches> or get rid of that top bar
#553 [02:27] <DopeGhoti> and the window is 609px high
#554 [02:27] <jhches> I dont wanna see that menu bar
#555 [02:27] <DopeGhoti> you'll have a 9px gap below the last line of text
#556 [02:27] <DopeGhoti> ah
#557 [02:28] <DopeGhoti> use terminator, not gnome-shell (:
#558 [02:28] <xales> X allows for resizing off the edge of the screen, no?
#559 [02:28] <DopeGhoti> if you _really_ want to, yes
#560 [02:28] <xales> simple fix, you only lose 1px
#561 [02:28] <DopeGhoti> (serisously, though, if upi
#562 [02:28] <DopeGhoti> er
#563 [02:28] <xales> I don't think anything important will be in that 1px at the bottom of the screen
#564 [02:28] <DopeGhoti> if you're in a GUI, use terminator, not the standard gnome terminal
#565 [02:28] <DopeGhoti> it's _SO_ much better
#566 [02:28] <jhches> terminator
#567 [02:29] <xales> DopeGhoti: By the way, I'm suggesting this to people who use Ubuntu, and don't want to deal with Gnome 3. If you haven't heard of it, check it out, http://crunchbanglinux.org/
#568 [02:29] <DopeGhoti> xales: GNOME3 isn't going to be in Natty
#569 [02:29] <DopeGhoti> so that's not a problem for ½ year or so
#570 [02:30] <jhches> :(
#571 [02:30] <jhches> I know
#572 [02:30] <xales> O_o
#573 [02:30] <jhches> I was so mad
#574 [02:30] <xales> last I heard, it was
#575 [02:30] <jhches> well, not that mad, but upset
#576 [02:30] <xales> oh well, I don't follow distro stuff very much :<
#577 [02:30] <jhches> But thanks for that website, I'm bookmarking it
#578 [02:30] <DopeGhoti> They're going with Unity, which they're trying to grow from a Netbook interface to a desktop one
#579 [02:30] <DopeGhoti> I'll stick with GNOME2
#580 [02:30] <jhches> But that's crap
#581 [02:30] <jhches> I need desktop one
#582 [02:30] <jhches> I still use it on laptop as well
#583 [02:30] <DopeGhoti> I also use GNOME on my eee
#584 [02:31] <jhches> I mean the Unity
#585 [02:31] <jhches> Not Gnome2
#586 [02:31] <DopeGhoti> Unity breaks the GPU on my eee
#587 [02:31] <jhches> It take too much
#588 [02:31] <DopeGhoti> anyhow, about Terminator
#589 [02:32] <DopeGhoti> tabbed, grouped terminals; arbitrary vertical and horizontal splits, with discrete font settings in each pane
#590 [02:32] <jhches> Oh yea, does it have transparent background?
#591 [02:32] <DopeGhoti> it's lovely to behold
#592 [02:32] <DopeGhoti> and yes.
#593 [02:32] <jhches> Good!
#594 [02:32] <jhches> I like looking at background
#595 [02:32] <DopeGhoti> it imports all its default settings from GNOME-Terminal as a base
#596 [02:32] <jhches> k, apt-getting it
#597 [02:32] <DopeGhoti> while you're there
#598 [02:32] <DopeGhoti> also get tilda
#599 [02:32] <DopeGhoti> instant terminal, just add hotkey
#600 [02:33] <jhches> Ohhh
#601 [02:33] <DopeGhoti> so no matter what I'm up to, I hit alt-~ and get a terminal
#602 [02:33] <jhches> This is awesome, I'm learning a lot now
#603 [02:33] <DopeGhoti> hit it again, and poof-gone
#604 [02:33] <jhches> Better than those blogs for Ubuntu
#605 [02:33] <xales> DopeGhoti: I'm spending tomorrow attempting to piece my dotfiles back together, as the originals are now gone (on an Athena account that is now locked :|)
#606 [02:33] <xales> :D
#607 [02:34] <DopeGhoti> jhches: I will be delighted to be of further assistance (:
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#609 [02:36] <jhches> Ohh
#610 [02:36] <jhches> tilda is a small terminal, just for a quick fix or w/e
#611 [02:36] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#612 [02:37] <DopeGhoti> or for doing midnight code releases for $EMPLOYER
#613 [02:37] <DopeGhoti> the way I have my desktop set, I have Terminator full-screen on the right display, other apps on the left, and my Tilda window is set to appear on the left.
#614 [02:38] <DopeGhoti> ..right now I have 8 terminals in the screen over here, and three tabs on my tilda window
#615 [02:38] <DopeGhoti> and the relevant trouble ticket in Chrome (:
#616 [02:38] <jhches> Haha. I only have one screen...
#617 [02:38] <jhches> Actually, I used to have LCD right next to my laptop
#618 [02:38] <jhches> but I didn't like how "ubuntu" handles whenever I plug or unplug the connetion.
#619 [02:39] <jhches> like how Windows 7 does, plug in, and it work off boat, can drag windows between, etc
#620 [02:39] <DopeGhoti> off… boat?
#621 [02:39] <jhches> "right away"
#622 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> but yes, X's handling of multi-headed displays still needs some work
#623 [02:40] <jhches> Yes
#624 [02:40] <jhches> Xinerama didn't meet my exception.
#625 [02:40] <jhches> because whenever I need to take laptop on go
#626 [02:40] <jhches> I need to disable it before leaving
#627 [02:40] <jhches> too much work.
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#631 [02:54] <jhches> alright
#632 [02:55] <jhches> night guys
#633 [02:55] <jhches> I'll probably be back
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#635 [02:59] <Comu> Hi.
#636 [03:00] <xales> Hello
#637 [03:00] <Comu> I need some help with MC. I dont know if its actually in touch with MC, or generally with my PC.
#638 [03:00] <aetherian> then ask away
#639 [03:00] <xales> Just say what the problem is
#640 [03:00] <Comu> Following problem: If I play minecraft, for about 20mins, it starts to lag and after ca. 25mins it just crashes without any error or get stucked.
#641 [03:01] <Comu> Black ops is running smoothly on my PC, I fill in all requirements as well.
#642 [03:01] <xales> Are you using any mods?
#643 [03:01] <Comu> nope the standart version
#644 [03:01] <xales> ??> Comu win/reinst
#645 [03:01] <VoxelHead> Comu: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#646 [03:01] <VoxelHead> Comu: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#648 [03:02] <Comu> I'll try this, thanks.
#649 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> could also be a heat issue
#650 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> minecraft whips the GPU and CPU like a government mule
#651 [03:04] <aetherian> wait
#652 [03:04] <aetherian> it whips it like it would a government mule?
#653 [03:04] <aetherian> or like a government mule would whip it?
#654 [03:04] <DopeGhoti> like the givernment would whips its mules.
#655 [03:04] <DopeGhoti> s/whips/whip/
#656 [03:04] <aetherian> the givernment
#657 [03:04] <aetherian> classic.
#658 [03:04] <DopeGhoti> no, survival.
#659 [03:05] <aetherian> I honestly don't know to to properly respond to that.
#660 [03:05] <DopeGhoti> ☺
#661 [03:05] <Comu> thanks for this tip! it makes MC running smoothly
#662 [03:05] <aetherian> yeah, there's a good chance that looks ugly in my font/fontsize
#663 [03:06] <Comu> Do I have to do it more than 1 time?
#664 [03:06] <xales> Probably not
#665 [03:06] <Comu> thanks much!
#666 [03:06] <DopeGhoti> that'll be ¥8
#667 [03:06] <aetherian> .__.
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#669 [03:08] <DopeGhoti> aetherian: ⁇
#670 [03:08] <aetherian> ??!
#671 [03:08] <DopeGhoti> ‼
#672 [03:08] <xales> DopeGhoti: Wrong currency
#673 [03:08] <xales> I make this assumption based on your previous similar statements
#674 [03:09] <DopeGhoti> xales: nah, I figured I'd lowball it that time
#675 [03:09] <_303> aetherian: C trigraphs ftw
#676 [03:09] <aetherian> what
#677 [03:09] <DopeGhoti> 80¢ is a deal ☻
#678 [03:09] <_303> ??! == |
#679 [03:09] <_303> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digraphs_and_trigraphs
#680 [03:10] <aetherian> wha
#681 [03:10] <aetherian> I don't even...
#682 [03:10] <NotiCon> silly
#683 [03:11] * DopeGhoti is bored, and is flaunting his random .XCompose entries.
#683 [03:11] <aetherian> to whom?
#684 [03:11] <DopeGhoti> to whomever. And you get a gold ★ for proper use of 'whom'.
#685 [03:11] <aetherian> or are the entries themselves flaunting?
#686 [03:12] <aetherian> :D ★
#687 [03:12] <_303> heh :> is a digraph too
#688 [03:12] <DopeGhoti> the entries cannot flaunt themselves; they must be invoked. What magery do you suspect me of, sir or ma'am or other‽
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#690 [03:12] <aetherian> DopeGhoti: that of the evilest sort.
#691 [03:13] <NotiCon> ಥ_ಥ
#692 [03:13] <aetherian> he /did/ ask
#693 [03:13] <aetherian> hey dope, since you're here, you can save me the trouble of typing in a search and pressing enter
#694 [03:13] <DopeGhoti> I can try.
#695 [03:13] <aetherian> what's the +g channel mode supposed to mean?
#696 [03:14] <NotiCon> something retarded iirc
#697 [03:14] <DopeGhoti> I.. I'm not certain
#698 [03:14] <_303> free forward?
#699 [03:14] <_303> http://esper.net/ircd.php
#700 [03:15] <_303> +g Free invite: Anyone may invite people to this channel.
#701 [03:15] <aetherian> \o/
#702 [03:15] <aetherian> if only there was "/invite *" :3
#703 [03:15] <NotiCon> just make a script for that
#704 [03:15] <aetherian> I'm uh
#705 [03:15] <aetherian> I'm busy
#706 [03:16] <NotiCon> riiight
#707 [03:16] * aetherian goes back to what he was doing. Being busy, that is.
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#708 [03:22] <aetherian> <3 this comic
#709 [03:23] * aetherian wants a bag of holding
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#710 [03:26] <Demki> is this: http://i.imgur.com/jnaKz.png fixable?
#711 [03:26] <xales> Demki: do you have "advanced opengl" turned on?
#712 [03:26] <Demki> no
#713 [03:27] <Demki> can't turn it on either
#714 [03:27] <xales> I think it's a known bug...thought it might have had something to do with that
#715 [03:27] <Demki> since it crashes my computer
#716 [03:27] <xales> you could probably try disabling smooth lighting, otherwise, just wait for a fix
#717 [03:27] <Demki> also, it didn't happen before this version
#718 [03:27] <Demki> smooth lighting is off
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#720 [03:28] <Demki> look in the picture lol
#721 [03:28] <xales> O_o
#722 [03:28] <xales> it looked on for a second
#723 [03:28] <xales> I have no idea, other than wait for an update
#724 [03:28] <_303> try placing a dirt block beside it and removing it, might fix light bugs
#725 [03:28] <xales> ohi _303
#726 [03:28] <_303> oh hello xales
#727 [03:29] <Demki> didn't work lol
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#729 [03:29] <_303> probably related to the fix for light shining through stairs
#730 [03:29] <xales> _303: are the modders enjoying 1.5? I forgot to watch the explosion when the update got released :(
#731 [03:29] <_303> xales: tremendously
#732 [03:29] <xales> \o/
#733 [03:29] <_303> basically any gui modder is screwed
#734 [03:30] <aetherian> wot wot?
#735 [03:30] <aetherian> what happened?
#736 [03:30] <xales> I think Mojang's goal of ruining mods is complete
#737 [03:30] <xales> this is stage 1 of modding API :P
#738 [03:30] <_303> do.class = CraftingInventoryCB or so
#739 [03:30] <_303> they have to make their GUIs inherit the chest class instead
#740 [03:30] <aetherian> were there a lot of people flooding this channel when 1.5 was released?
#741 [03:31] <xales> aetherian: probably
#742 [03:31] <Demki> anyways, my house is 10x10x4 indoors, made of 305 planks, 20 logs, 2 doors, 40 fence blocks, the stairs you saw(lazy to count) and torches
#743 [03:31] <xales> I wasn't around
#744 [03:31] <Demki> :D
#745 [03:31] <xales> #risucraft is more fun when updates come out though
#746 [03:31] <Demki> I wasted materials
#747 [03:31] <aetherian> I was stuck camping D:
#748 [03:31] <Demki> XD
#749 [03:31] <xales> Demki: fence blocks? O_o
#750 [03:31] <xales> aetherian: lol, wat
#751 [03:31] <Demki> xales, on the roof
#752 [03:31] <xales> ah, that would have been my guess
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#754 [03:31] <aetherian> parents idea of spring break != fun
#755 [03:32] <NotiCon> depends
#756 [03:32] <aetherian> thank god for rain
#757 [03:32] <NotiCon> if you are one of the parents then it could be fun for you
#758 [03:32] <xales> aetherian: I don't mind camping :|
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#760 [03:32] <aetherian> me neither
#761 [03:32] <xales> but then, my kind of camping is not your kind of camping
#762 [03:32] <aetherian> but
#763 [03:32] <xales> and I will say nothing more
#764 [03:32] <NotiCon> so your kind of camping is camping with a rifle?
#765 [03:32] <Demki> http://i.imgur.com/zmjwn.png <- from the outside XD
#766 [03:32] <aetherian> xales: apart from the fact that that seemed slightly... haughty/narcissist/whatever
#767 [03:32] <aetherian> @_@
#768 [03:33] <aetherian> I have work to do
#769 [03:33] <aetherian> which I couldn't do
#770 [03:33] <aetherian> because I was dragged off to some other place
#771 [03:33] <xales> aetherian: that wasn't the intention ._.
#772 [03:33] <Demki> also, btw, I turned on smooth lighting, and it seems to have "fixed" the stairs lighting thing
#773 [03:33] <Demki> only works on smooth
#774 [03:34] <xales> Demki: I'd just wait for an update I guess, I think it's a known bug
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#776 [03:34] <Demki> oh, and yeah, that's a wolf on my roof
#777 [03:35] <aetherian> I think that notch is making minecraft too complicated
#778 [03:35] <NotiCon> oh
#779 [03:35] <Demki> aetherian: no he isn't
#780 [03:35] <NotiCon> aetherian: i think he is making it too complicated for java
#781 [03:35] <Demki> have you ever played DF?
#782 [03:35] <aetherian> I think he's making it too complicated for the spirit of the game
#783 [03:36] <Demki> no such thing as "too complicated"
#784 [03:36] <NotiCon> always is
#785 [03:36] <aetherian> yes... yes there is.
#786 [03:36] <Demki> no, no there isn't
#787 [03:36] <NotiCon> well there is you
#788 [03:36] <aetherian> a back and forth like that could go on forever
#789 [03:37] <_303> no it couldn't
#790 [03:37] <NotiCon> and then there was _303
#791 [03:37] <aetherian> The game, to me, should be a relatively simplistic game
#792 [03:37] <aetherian> that is
#793 [03:37] <aetherian> you're stranded, all alone, in some barren wilderness
#794 [03:38] <aetherian> once you start using some of these things that are being added
#795 [03:38] <aetherian> it makes it seem based in multiple times at once
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#798 [03:50] <lemon-rev> aetherian you got rain yet to work properply ?
#799 [03:50] <lemon-rev> propery
#800 [03:50] <aetherian> I haven't really had a decent chance to play minecraft since... before 1.4, really.
#801 [03:51] <aetherian> so I've played a bit
#802 [03:51] <aetherian> not too much
#803 [03:51] <lemon-rev> oh, well you have time now :)
#804 [03:51] <aetherian> hardly
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#806 [03:53] <aetherian> oh wow
#807 [03:54] <aetherian> humble bundle average windows payment is currently four dollars :o
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#809 [03:57] <lemon-rev> oh
#810 [03:57] <lemon-rev> interesting
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#812 [04:05] * VoxelHead is back
#812 [04:06] <VoxelHead> i like them =D
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#814 [04:14] <aetherian> gOne2002: o.o
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#817 [04:17] <aetherian> toodaloo, people
#818 [04:17] <aetherian> 'tis bed time for yours truly
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#821 [04:42] <It> grey are you up
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#824 [04:46] <iSECKS> Hello. I am in the process of trying to update my server to 1.5. The issue is, when I download Minecraft_Server.exe from the minecraft website, my Kaspersky Antivirus has a spaz attack and immediately puts the file in quarantine.
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#826 [04:46] <It> bitch slap it and tell it no
#827 [04:46] <It> its because its so new
#828 [04:47] <m0nk> kaspersky sucks
#829 [04:47] <It> if you were to try again in a week, it wouldn't happen
#830 [04:47] <m0nk> *booing*
#831 [04:47] <iSECKS> Hmmmm
#832 [04:47] <It> norton did the same thing when I tried to run it on my laptop
#833 [04:47] <m0nk> norton sucks
#834 [04:47] <m0nk> *booing*
#835 [04:47] <It> its just something it's never seen before
#836 [04:47] <iSECKS> It really went all out of me lmao, says "Your computer security is at risk. It is necessary to reboot the computer"
#837 [04:47] <It> thanks monk, i'm aware
#838 [04:47] <It> but it keeps the viruses out
#839 [04:48] <m0nk> get msse and scan it and then see
#840 [04:48] <It> its just being overcautious
#841 [04:48] <m0nk> or even better. malwarebytes
#842 [04:48] <It> once you have one, they can be a royal pain to get rid of
#843 [04:48] <iSECKS> Thing is I put it in the exclusions zone.... still unable to open the file
#844 [04:48] <m0nk> what is it marked as?
#845 [04:48] <It> download the jar and use that
#846 [04:48] <iSECKS> I'll check now.
#847 [04:48] <It> they're the same thing anyway
#848 [04:49] <iSECKS> unknown threat UDS:DangerousObject.Multi.Generic
#849 [04:49] <Vector> hey
#850 [04:49] <Vector> with the 1.5_01 update
#851 [04:49] <m0nk> hang on. scanning
#852 [04:49] <Vector> you guys notice that cobble stairs have a black strip across the top?
#853 [04:50] <m0nk> nothing
#854 [04:50] <It> havent seen any such strip
#855 [04:50] <Vector> you placed cobble stairs after the 1.5 update?
#856 [04:50] <Vector> http://home.codespeak.org/Minecraft/BlockFail.png
#857 [04:50] <It> I was placing them on a server an hour ago. that count?
#858 [04:50] <Vector> that's what mine look like
#859 [04:51] <Vector> notice the black strip
#860 [04:51] <It> please send another link when its daytime
#861 [04:51] <It> i have to tilt my screen and squint to see anything
#862 [04:51] <It> (laptop, screen sucks)
#863 [04:51] <Vector> fine i'll place a torch and then show you
#864 [04:52] <Vector> oh
#865 [04:52] <It> just light things up anyway
#866 [04:52] <It> we won't do you any favors if we can't see whats wrong
#867 [04:54] <Vector> http://home.codespeak.org/Minecraft/BlockFail2.png
#868 [04:55] <It> much better. no, haven't seen anything remotely like that
#869 [04:55] <It> try a force update
#870 [04:55] <Vector> did
#871 [04:55] <Vector> i even re-installed java
#872 [04:56] <Vector> funny thing is i didn't try to place stairs before i wanted to see what would happen if i updated the JLWGL natives, but i deleted them later on, and had them get re-downloaded
#873 [04:56] <Vector> the stairs i placed before today look fine
#874 [04:56] <Vector> only the stairs i place now have that funny look
#875 [04:56] <Vector> i tried generating a new world, same thing
#876 [04:56] <It> try smp (though I doubt it will help)
#877 [04:57] <It> I was doing them online today with no funny stripes
#878 [04:57] <Vector> oh
#879 [04:57] <It> it should make no difference though
#880 [04:57] <It> is smooth lighting on?
#881 [04:57] <relsqui> for flying pig achievement purposes, what defines a "cliff"?
#882 [04:57] <It> no idea
#883 [04:58] <It> push pigs off things
#884 [04:58] <iSECKS> I'm completely lost now. I can't figure out how to make Kaspersky ignore the file.....
#885 [04:59] <iSECKS> I added it to the exclusions list. Still shooting blanks.
#886 [04:59] <m0nk> kaspersky and norton out the window. now..
#887 [04:59] <m0nk> btw did you pay for it?
#888 [04:59] <iSECKS> Well it's what I have.... so kinda have to deal with it.
#889 [04:59] <m0nk> throw it out anyway
#890 [05:00] <It> turn it off temporarily
#891 [05:00] <It> minecraft is not going to give you a virus, that'd be silly
#892 [05:00] <m0nk> http://www.microsoft.com/security/pc-security/mse.aspx
#893 [05:00] <Vector> oh now they're fine
#894 [05:00] <Vector> i connected to smp, but i got lag, so i disconnected
#895 [05:00] <Vector> and went into my saved world
#896 [05:00] <Vector> and they're gone
#897 [05:00] <Vector> weird
#898 [05:01] <It> lol
#899 [05:01] <It> wacky
#900 [05:01] * It tests it
#900 [05:01] <m0nk> wacky weels. it's a game for snes
#901 [05:01] <m0nk> wheels*
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#905 [05:09] <koulchilebaiz> Hey i'd like to know how to allocate more memory for minecraft ? thanks
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#907 [05:15] <ManBearPig> ~quit Updating page title parser (Apologies fr immenant jojnspam)
#908 [05:15] <ManBearPig> typos..
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#911 [05:30] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#912 [05:31] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#913 [05:31] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#914 [05:31] <ManBearPig> time to test
#915 [05:31] <ManBearPig> https://bitbucket.org
#916 [05:31] <ManBearPig> errah
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#918 [05:34] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#919 [05:34] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#920 [05:34] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#921 [05:34] <ManBearPig> https://bitbucket.org
#922 [05:34] <ManBearPig> hrn
#923 [05:34] <ManBearPig> I'll do it later
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#927 [06:01] <g> Okay
#928 [06:02] <g> Time to get this damn bot working
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#930 [06:02] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#931 [06:02] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#932 [06:02] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#933 [06:02] <g> https://bitbucket.org
#934 [06:02] <McPlusPlus> unbound method open() must be called with Browser instance as first argument (got str instance instead)
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#936 [06:02] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#937 [06:02] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#938 [06:02] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#939 [06:02] <g> https://bitbucket.org
#940 [06:02] <McPlusPlus> "Free source code hosting – Bitbucket" at bitbucket.org
#941 [06:03] <g> Wheey
#942 [06:03] <g> Now to just remove the debug code
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#947 [06:08] <g> that should do it
#948 [06:08] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#949 [06:08] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#950 [06:08] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#951 [06:08] <It> bork
#952 [06:09] <g> ok
#953 [06:09] * g tsts
#953 [06:09] <g> tests*
#954 [06:09] <g> damn netbook keyboard
#955 [06:09] <g> https://bitbucket.org
#956 [06:09] <McPlusPlus> "Free source code hosting – Bitbucket" at bitbucket.org
#957 [06:09] <g> ~title
#958 [06:09] <g> oh derp
#959 [06:09] <g> ~title http://google.com#
#960 [06:09] <g> ~title http://google.com
#961 [06:09] <McPlusPlus> "Google" at google.com
#962 [06:09] <g> alright
#963 [06:09] <g> just need to fix the last title one
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#965 [06:12] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#966 [06:12] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#967 [06:12] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#968 [06:12] <g> http://bitbucket.org
#969 [06:12] <McPlusPlus> "Free source code hosting – Bitbucket" at bitbucket.org
#970 [06:12] <g> ~title
#971 [06:12] <McPlusPlus> "Free source code hosting – Bitbucket" at bitbucket.org
#972 [06:13] <g> ~stfu
#973 [06:13] <g> http://google.com
#974 [06:13] <g> ~title
#975 [06:13] <McPlusPlus> "Google" at google.com
#976 [06:13] <g> Test: http://www.minecraft.net
#977 [06:13] <g> ~title
#978 [06:13] <McPlusPlus> "Minecraft" at www.minecraft.net
#979 [06:13] <g> Win
#980 [06:13] <g> Epic epic win
#981 [06:14] <It> www.facebook.com
#982 [06:14] <It> ~title
#983 [06:14] <McPlusPlus> "Minecraft" at www.minecraft.net
#984 [06:14] <g> hm
#985 [06:14] <g> it only works with http/s
#986 [06:14] <g> so far
#987 [06:14] <It> http://www.facebook.com
#988 [06:14] <It> ~title
#989 [06:14] <g> No errors
#990 [06:14] <g> hmm
#991 [06:14] <It> just nothing?
#992 [06:14] * g adds some mroe debug code
#992 [06:14] <g> more*
#993 [06:14] <It> can I get in on the code for this one?
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#995 [06:15] <It> is it on bitbucket?
#996 [06:15] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#997 [06:15] <g> You can, once I fix it up a bit
#998 [06:15] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#999 [06:15] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#1000 [06:15] <g> No, it isn't
#1001 [06:15] <g> I was jsut never able to get it to work with bitbucket titles
#1002 [06:15] <g> http://www.facebook.com
#1003 [06:15] <McPlusPlus> HTTP Error 403: request disallowed by robots.txt
#1004 [06:15] <It> lol
#1005 [06:15] <It> have it spoof a user agent
#1006 [06:16] <g> Not sure how to do that with Mechanize
#1007 [06:16] <g> let me check
#1008 [06:16] <g> User-Agent (this is cheating, ok?) br.addheaders = [('User-agent', 'Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008071615 Fedora/3.0.1-1.fc9 Firefox/3.0.1')]
#1009 [06:16] <g> lol
#1010 [06:17] <g> one second then
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#1012 [06:17] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#1013 [06:17] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1014 [06:17] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#1015 [06:17] <g> http://www.facebook.com
#1016 [06:17] <McPlusPlus> HTTP Error 403: request disallowed by robots.txt
#1017 [06:18] <g> hmm
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#1019 [06:18] <g> Doesn't appear to be a genuine useragent
#1020 [06:18] <g> Lemme check my old code
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#1022 [06:18] <It> try to sniff one of yours and copy it verbatim
#1023 [06:19] <g> I could just turn off robots.txt
#1024 [06:19] <g> lol
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#1026 [06:19] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#1027 [06:19] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1028 [06:19] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#1029 [06:19] <g> http://www.facebook.com
#1030 [06:19] <McPlusPlus> "Welcome to Facebook - Log In, Sign Up or Learn More" at www.facebook.com
#1031 [06:19] <g> Sexy
#1032 [06:19] <It> there you go.
#1033 [06:19] <g> Magic line: br.set_handle_robots(False)
#1034 [06:20] <g> I'm gonna leave the debug code there
#1035 [06:20] <g> in case something else funky happens
#1036 [06:20] <It> might be useful in future
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#1038 [06:20] <g> Indeed
#1039 [06:20] <g> Now to turn off the autoparse
#1040 [06:20] <g> ~stfu
#1041 [06:20] <g> (It tends to annoy the ops)
#1042 [06:20] <g> and, if I did it right..
#1043 [06:20] <g> ~title
#1044 [06:20] <McPlusPlus> "Welcome to Facebook - Log In, Sign Up or Learn More" at www.facebook.com
#1045 [06:20] <g> Yup
#1046 [06:20] <g> win
#1047 [06:20] <g> Kealper: Ding ding ding
#1048 [06:21] <It> ?? ~stfu
#1049 [06:21] <mib_dc48uw> ive got a question, buying the game for some1, is it the same if you buy a gift code and sent that to the person?
#1050 [06:21] <g> It: : Try ~help stfu
#1051 [06:21] <g> mib_dc48uw: : Yeah it is
#1052 [06:21] <It> mib_aergerykrsrjgzer, yes.
#1053 [06:21] <It> please /nick to something sensible next time you join.
#1054 [06:21] <It> ~help stfu
#1055 [06:22] <It> -McPlusPlus- Unknown help topic: stfu
#1056 [06:22] <It> is it supposed to do that
#1057 [06:22] <g> maybe I didn't give it a help topic
#1058 [06:22] <g> ~help
#1059 [06:22] <g> yeah, I didn't
#1060 [06:22] <g> all it does is stop it autoparsing link titles
#1061 [06:23] <g> ~brokenfeeds
#1062 [06:23] <g> Two? hm
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#1064 [06:31] <Kealper> g: lolwut
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#1066 [06:32] <Kealper> g: why is McPlusPlus's username root?
#1067 [06:33] <Kealper> you don't actually have that thing running as root, do you? lol
#1068 [06:33] <It> i was wondering that
#1069 [06:34] * It exploits bot and gains root access to g
#1069 [06:34] <Kealper> lol
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#1072 [06:37] <jacobat> Anyone else having issues with lighting in 1.5_01? I just upgraded and newly placed torches no longer provide any light
#1073 [06:38] <Kealper> jacobat: i've seen some lighting weirdness in my game, too
#1074 [06:38] <jacobat> I have an example screenshot here: http://cl.ly/0o342V0y1R2b1N102j1e
#1075 [06:39] <jacobat> The only light is coming from the outside
#1076 [06:39] <Kealper> wow that is rather strange lol
#1077 [06:39] <Kealper> the only issues i have seen is with stairs
#1078 [06:40] <jacobat> Tried it both with an existing game and a freshly made one
#1079 [06:40] <jacobat> Makes the game kind of hard :)
#1080 [06:40] <Kealper> hmm...torches seem to be working fine on my game
#1081 [06:42] <Kealper> nope, the lighting issue i was noticing last night doesn't seem to be happening today, either :/
#1082 [06:43] <Kealper> try turning off Smooth Lighting, see if it's just something with that and your computer that hate eachother
#1083 [06:44] <jacobat> Hmm
#1084 [06:45] <jacobat> After restarting and doing yet another world it works in that one
#1085 [06:45] <Kealper> weird
#1086 [06:45] <jacobat> Aaand, now it works in my old game too
#1087 [06:45] <Kealper> O.o
#1088 [06:45] <jacobat> Indeed
#1089 [06:46] <It> maybe its a new issue with new opengl stuff
#1090 [06:47] <Kealper> could be.....do you have Advanced OpenGL enabled?
#1091 [06:49] <It> theres been a few weird lighting and display issues lately
#1092 [06:49] <It> I bet the new opengl has something to do with it
#1093 [06:49] <Kealper> the new OpenGL stuff is disabled by default
#1094 [06:50] <g> ah, Kealper
#1095 [06:50] <g> I have succeeded!
#1096 [06:50] <Kealper> it has a performance hit on higher-end machines
#1097 [06:50] <Kealper> g: :o
#1098 [06:50] <g> You know, with the page titles?
#1099 [06:50] <g> If I do https://bitbucket.org
#1100 [06:50] <Kealper> ~title
#1101 [06:50] <McPlusPlus> "Free source code hosting – Bitbucket" at bitbucket.org
#1102 [06:50] <g> ~title
#1103 [06:50] <McPlusPlus> "Free source code hosting – Bitbucket" at bitbucket.org
#1104 [06:50] <g> yeah
#1105 [06:50] <g> lol
#1106 [06:50] <Kealper> ninja'd
#1107 [06:51] <g> using Mechanize now
#1108 [06:51] <g> however
#1109 [06:51] <g> it conflicts a bit
#1110 [06:51] <g> cause it aggregates the links from every channel it's in
#1111 [06:51] <g> ~title
#1112 [06:51] <McPlusPlus> "Free source code hosting – Bitbucket" at bitbucket.org
#1113 [06:51] <g> hm
#1114 [06:51] <g> sec
#1115 [06:51] <jacobat> Kealper: No idea if I have advanced OpenGL :)
#1116 [06:51] <g> ~title
#1117 [06:51] <McPlusPlus> "Free source code hosting – Bitbucket" at bitbucket.org
#1118 [06:51] <g> weird
#1119 [06:51] <Kealper> jacobat: if you don't know, it's probably safe to say you don't lol
#1120 [06:51] <g> it DID do that
#1121 [06:51] <g> and it should
#1122 [06:52] <Kealper> g: lol
#1123 [06:52] <g> oh
#1124 [06:52] <g> it's not in that channel
#1125 [06:52] <g> lol
#1126 [06:52] <jacobat> Kealper: :)
#1127 [06:52] <g> ~title
#1128 [06:52] <McPlusPlus> "Google" at google.com
#1129 [06:52] <Kealper> AuBot, give me the last link's title, please
#1130 [06:52] <g> I need to fix that
#1131 [06:53] <g> It keeps a list of links
#1132 [06:53] <g> I might use them later
#1133 [06:53] <Kealper> lol
#1134 [06:53] <g> when I implement is.gd
#1135 [06:53] <g> (That's the next job)
#1136 [06:53] <g> But I need to keep a file of links that have been shortened
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#1138 [06:53] <Kealper> does is.gd have an api?
#1139 [06:53] <g> cause they'll ban me if I keep shortening links
#1140 [06:53] <g> yes
#1141 [06:54] <g> http://is.gd/apishorteningreference.php
#1142 [06:54] <Kealper> lol
#1143 [06:54] <g> Pretty easy API
#1144 [06:55] <g> Kealper: Note
#1145 [06:55] <g> There are strict API limits
#1146 [06:55] <g> http://is.gd/apishorteningreference.php#restrict
#1147 [06:56] <BarryCarlyon> Take it you guys heard EC2 is down.
#1148 [06:57] <g> EC2?
#1149 [06:57] <BarryCarlyon> Minecraft.net is hosted on Amazon EC2.
#1150 [06:57] <BarryCarlyon> Amazon Ec2 is down.
#1151 [06:57] <g> Oh right
#1152 [06:57] <g> http://minecraft.net
#1153 [06:57] <BarryCarlyon> Reddit is down.
#1154 [06:57] <g> ~title
#1155 [06:58] <BarryCarlyon> MineCraft is down
#1156 [06:58] <BarryCarlyon> Hootsuite is down.
#1157 [06:58] <g> Seems to be down, indeed
#1158 [06:58] <g> http://www.minecraft.net
#1159 [06:58] <BarryCarlyon> Very down.
#1160 [06:58] <g> ~title
#1161 [06:58] <McPlusPlus> "Minecraft" at www.minecraft.net
#1162 [06:58] <Kealper> http://is.gd/usagelimits.php how is that strict lol
#1163 [06:58] <g> orly
#1164 [06:58] <g> that works
#1165 [06:58] <g> It's not in a small channel like this
#1166 [06:58] <BarryCarlyon> g might be cached in the bot, why make a request if the title is known/
#1167 [06:58] <g> BarryCarlyon: I was checking if it was up
#1168 [06:58] <g> And the bot doesn't cache titles
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#1170 [06:59] <BarryCarlyon> tho yah www. does work by no www. doesnt work how odd.
#1171 [06:59] <Kealper> AuBot: since you don't cache crap, what's the title of that url?
#1172 [06:59] <Kealper> damnit
#1173 [06:59] <g> lol
#1174 [06:59] <McPlusPlus> "Minecraft" at minecraft.net
#1175 [06:59] * BarryCarlyon wanders back to work
#1175 [06:59] <g> hm
#1176 [06:59] <Kealper> minecraft works fine
#1177 [06:59] <g> it got through in the end
#1178 [06:59] <g> so it's not down, just slow
#1179 [07:00] <Kealper> loads fine for me
#1180 [07:00] <BarryCarlyon> Must of just come back, my coworker said ec2 was down, thought I'd let you know.
#1181 [07:00] <BarryCarlyon> And of couse the moment I did it came back :-D
#1182 [07:00] <g> Bot is in chicago
#1183 [07:00] <g> so
#1184 [07:00] <g> it's a goot benchmark
#1185 [07:00] <g> good*#
#1186 [07:00] <Kealper> my bot ends up going through Chicago on most hops, does that count? :3
#1187 [07:01] <g> I suppose :P
#1188 [07:03] <g> Alright
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#1190 [07:04] <g> Time to check out this
#1191 [07:04] <g> I'm also going to add a way to check what game a Steam user is playing :P
#1192 [07:04] <g> (at some pint)
#1193 [07:04] <g> point*
#1194 [07:04] <g> but now
#1195 [07:04] <g> is.gd!
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#1207 [07:31] <Slim> Hello
#1208 [07:31] <g> Hi.
#1209 [07:31] * lemon-rev hits slim with wooden sword :P
#1209 [07:31] <Slim> mm
#1210 [07:31] <Slim> i cant talk on #minecraft
#1211 [07:31] <Slim> why?
#1212 [07:31] <lemon-rev> you in muliplayer ?
#1213 [07:32] <Slim> what?
#1214 [07:32] <Slim> i mean the channe;
#1215 [07:32] <lemon-rev> you playing muliplayer
#1216 [07:32] <Slim> channel*
#1217 [07:32] <Cyberstorm> Help...every time I RE-DOWNLOAD minecraft_server.jar from http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1303384672089
#1218 [07:32] <Slim> i mean the IRC channel
#1219 [07:32] <Cyberstorm> It's still version 1.4
#1220 [07:32] <lemon-rev> oh
#1221 [07:32] <Slim> Cyber
#1222 [07:32] <Slim> open the exe
#1223 [07:32] <lemon-rev> you need to be registered
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#1225 [07:32] <Cyberstorm> Not using the .exe, using the jar
#1226 [07:33] <g> the exe is the jar
#1227 [07:33] <lemon-rev> cyberstorm sorry, was trying to talk to slim
#1228 [07:33] <g> just as .exe
#1229 [07:33] <Cyberstorm> Anyways...EVERYTIME I download from https://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1230 [07:33] <Cyberstorm> It's still version 1.4
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#1232 [07:34] <geraldbrent> XD
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#1235 [07:34] <Cyberstorm> There aren't many ways to mess that up so I assure you, I'm on the right website, I'm logged in, and I clicked on the right file ("minecraft_server.jar")
#1236 [07:34] <g> Cyberstorm: It's 1.5_02 here
#1237 [07:34] <Cyberstorm> So....why is it not the right version?
#1238 [07:35] <Cyberstorm> I know what it's supposed to be, but it's not the one I am recieving from that website
#1239 [07:35] <g> https://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1303385656374
#1240 [07:35] <g> Your page is cached
#1241 [07:35] <lemon-rev> cyberstorm are you saving a complete new file or just trying to over ride the old one
#1242 [07:35] <g> use that link
#1243 [07:36] <Cyberstorm> Complete new file
#1244 [07:36] <g> Cyberstorm: use that link
#1245 [07:36] <lemon-rev> see if that ink g provided helps you
#1246 [07:37] <g> Cyberstorm: Also, CTRL+F5 the download page
#1247 [07:37] <g> You have a cached version of it
#1248 [07:37] <Cyberstorm> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.4
#1249 [07:37] <g> what
#1250 [07:37] <Cyberstorm> Already reloaded and no-cache reloaded it
#1251 [07:37] <g> But I just downloaded it
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#1253 [07:38] <Cyberstorm> And used your link
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#1255 [07:38] <g> It's definitely correct
#1256 [07:38] <g> You must not be opening the right file or something
#1257 [07:41] * Cyberstorm scampers to work
#1257 [07:44] <Slim> mm..
#1258 [07:44] <Slim> G
#1259 [07:44] <Slim> g
#1260 [07:44] <g> hm?
#1261 [07:44] <Slim> i cant talk on #Minecraft
#1262 [07:44] <Slim> know why?
#1263 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#1264 [07:44] <g> Register your nick
#1265 [07:44] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1266 [07:44] <Slim> o
#1267 [07:44] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1268 [07:45] * It pokes greyvulpine
#1268 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> Ow
#1269 [07:45] <It> o.O
#1270 [07:45] <It> you're literally sitting right there staring at the screen, and suddenly my virtual finger pokes you in the eye
#1271 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> o.X
#1272 [07:46] <g> xD
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#1274 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> Did you need something It?
#1275 [07:48] <It> maybe >.>
#1276 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> ....
#1277 [07:50] * It gestures to PMs
#1277 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
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#1280 [07:58] <It> and I have to go. I unfortunately have some important stuffs to do
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#1283 [08:08] <magic> hello
#1284 [08:08] <magic> Can I get help with minecraft server there
#1285 [08:08] <magic> ?
#1286 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1287 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#1288 [08:08] <magic> when I start my server on linux I gotta error
#1289 [08:08] <magic> java.util.zip.ZipException: error in opening zip file at java.util.zip.ZipFile.open(Native Method) at java.util.zip.ZipFile.<init>(ZipFile.java:131) at java.util.jar.JarFile.<init>(JarFile.java:150) at java.util.jar.JarFile.<init>(JarFile.java:87) at mineshafter.MineServer.main(MineServer.java:47)
#1290 [08:09] <magic> why?
#1291 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> How exactly are you starting teh server?
#1292 [08:10] <magic> with command
#1293 [08:10] <magic> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar Mineshafter-server.jar
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#1295 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> mineshafter-server.jar isn't the normal server.
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#1297 [08:13] <magic> um... so I can't get help with mineshafter server?
#1298 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> No, because it allows people to bypass the copy protection of minecraft.
#1299 [08:15] <magic> okay... thanks anyway
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#1306 [09:02] <It> the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
#1307 [09:07] <Zw> Hi, question: Some people on my server have lava and water buckets stacked. Is that even posible without cheating?
#1308 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope
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#1322 [09:38] <[ICE]Beginning> Hey, could anyone tell me how to enable flying on a server I own?
#1323 [09:38] <[ICE]Beginning> If I try to fly, I get d/cd and receive the message: "Flying is not enabled on this server"
#1324 [09:40] <gPad2002> Moat bot test!
#1325 [09:41] <gPad2002> ~quit Updates!
#1326 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> [ICE]Beginning - You'll need to disable flight in server.properties
#1327 [09:42] <[ICE]Beginning> Is there a specific command?
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#1329 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> allow-flight=true
#1330 [09:43] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#1331 [09:43] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1332 [09:43] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#1333 [09:43] <[ICE]Beginning> Thanks :)
#1334 [09:43] <gPad2002> ~stfu
#1335 [09:43] <gPad2002> This should work now
#1336 [09:43] <gPad2002> ~title
#1337 [09:43] <McPlusPlus> There have been no URLs sent since I joined.
#1338 [09:44] <gPad2002> Win
#1339 [09:44] <gPad2002> And if I http://www.boingboing.net
#1340 [09:44] <gPad2002> ~title
#1341 [09:44] <McPlusPlus> There have been no URLs sent since I joined.
#1342 [09:44] <gPad2002> Hm, errors
#1343 [09:44] <gPad2002> Oh, derp
#1344 [09:44] <gPad2002> I see it
#1345 [09:44] * gPad2002 fixes
#1345 [09:44] <gPad2002> ~quit
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#1347 [09:45] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#1348 [09:45] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1349 [09:45] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#1350 [09:45] <gPad2002> so, http://boingboing.net
#1351 [09:46] <gPad2002> ~title
#1352 [09:46] <McPlusPlus> "Boing Boing" at boingboing.net
#1353 [09:46] <gPad2002> And now..
#1354 [09:46] <gPad2002> ~title
#1355 [09:46] <McPlusPlus> "Boing Boing" at boingboing.net
#1356 [09:46] <gPad2002> Works perfectly
#1357 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> http://tinyurl.com/2bxsxen
#1358 [09:47] <McPlusPlus> "Minecraft" at tinyurl.com
#1359 [09:47] <gPad2002> ~stfu
#1360 [09:47] <gPad2002> Wups :P
#1361 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> :P
#1362 [09:48] <gPad2002> I'm rather happy with this
#1363 [09:48] <gPad2002> No pages are detecting it at all
#1364 [09:48] <gPad2002> Why not try to break it? :P
#1365 [09:48] <Slim> gpad
#1366 [09:48] <gPad2002> I believe it also works in queries
#1367 [09:49] <gPad2002> Yes, Slim?
#1368 [09:49] <Slim> what is mcplusp[lus?
#1369 [09:49] <Slim> mcplusplus*
#1370 [09:49] <gPad2002> Bot
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#1380 [10:14] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#1381 [10:14] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#1382 [10:14] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#1383 [10:16] <gPad2002> ~stfu
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#1386 [10:18] <DarkWay> Hey, we're having a problem with our server client, it's fully updated but even after the update to 1.5_02 the client is still crashing? any ideas?
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#1388 [10:19] <Morrolan> What is the error message you get?
#1389 [10:20] <DarkWay> good question, I saved a screen shot somewhere let me find it
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#1393 [10:32] <mib_p2bokt> hey
#1394 [10:32] <MikeC2103> Anyone got suggestions for a good plugin to make a guest area that people can't leave on my server? craftbukkit..
#1395 [10:32] <mib_p2bokt> is there any1 who can help me?
#1396 [10:33] <mib_p2bokt> hello?
#1397 [10:33] <mib_p2bokt> anyone?
#1398 [10:33] <MikeC2103> probably not.. but you can ask :P
#1399 [10:33] <mib_p2bokt> well, when i want to connect to ANY multiplayer server. i will get end of stream
#1400 [10:33] <mib_p2bokt> always
#1401 [10:33] <mib_p2bokt> to any server
#1402 [10:33] <mib_p2bokt> any fix?
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#1404 [10:34] <MikeC2103> hmm.. updating java is usually the first thing..
#1405 [10:34] <mib_p2bokt> ok.
#1406 [10:35] <mib_p2bokt> brb
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#1408 [10:37] <mib_u7clp7> didnt work
#1409 [10:37] <mib_u7clp7> updating
#1410 [10:37] <MikeC2103> 1 sec
#1411 [10:38] <mib_u7clp7> any other solutions/
#1412 [10:39] <MikeC2103> hmm not really.. might want to search the support forums..
#1413 [10:40] <mib_u7clp7> i might have it
#1414 [10:40] <mib_u7clp7> update my video card
#1415 [10:40] <MikeC2103> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=33568
#1416 [10:40] <MikeC2103> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1013&t=22790&start=60#p450202
#1417 [10:41] <gPad2002> ~title
#1418 [10:41] <McPlusPlus> "FAQ - Solutions Collection - Minecraft Forums" at www.minecraftforum.net
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#1428 [11:17] <ronjn> achievements and stats are only stored locally, right?
#1429 [11:18] <gPad2002> Yeah
#1430 [11:18] <ronjn> :/
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#1440 [11:42] <Whisper> Hello guys! i have a bit of a question! well its more asking for your opinion about something :P
#1441 [11:43] <Whisper> Okay you know how when you start a game out you pretty much use wooden tools, till you get into stone tools that is
#1442 [11:43] <Whisper> What if you could burn the tools for a fire source when they get low on Dur, good idea or no? :P
#1443 [11:45] <It> idk maybe
#1444 [11:45] <It> I'd do it
#1445 [11:45] <It> though I only ever make 1 wooden tool (ever so occasionally 2) and its a pickaxe (and sometimes a shovel)
#1446 [11:46] <DarkWay> or use wood in the furnace to cook food and coal for smelting e.t.c.
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#1449 [11:48] <xolotl> Whisper: It'd probably make sense to have the ability to burn wooden tools if you want, though as It mentioned, that'd be unlikely to actually impact anyone's game
#1450 [11:49] <Whisper> Why not? why not just add the code line or what ever like they have coal
#1451 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> There's already quite a few fuel souces as it is
#1452 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Furnace#Fuel_efficiency
#1453 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> sources*
#1454 [11:50] <Whisper> Coal, wood, Lava O.o
#1455 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> And you can't stack tools like you can with those fuel sources
#1456 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> lava excluded
#1457 [11:51] <Whisper> well you can't stack pork meat either
#1458 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, but pork isn't a fuel source
#1459 [11:51] <Whisper> still
#1460 [11:51] <xolotl> Whisper: 'cause most people will make at most two or three wooden tools over the course of the whole game
#1461 [11:51] <Whisper> just make it like pork where it doesn't stack and you have to put the next tool into the burn part like pork in the cook slot
#1462 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> It's hp+ source, wouldn't make sense to stack those
#1463 [11:51] <xolotl> (it's not like I'm *opposed* to having it in there)
#1464 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Meat doesn't stack, because it's just as easy to have a stack of meat in the inventory, and be basically invulnerable for a time
#1465 [11:53] <Whisper> -sighs alittle-
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#1471 [12:01] <jimmybrite> Does anyone here use hd3000 graphics?
#1472 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I'm aware of anybody here that use that
#1473 [12:01] <jimmybrite> I'm just either in denial or disbelief
#1474 [12:02] <jimmybrite> It's just gotten hopeless
#1475 [12:02] <jimmybrite> Then again i'm not surprised, i've dealt with ati cards for a while before buying my i5
#1476 [12:03] <It> 2500k?
#1477 [12:03] <jimmybrite> I'm just astonished thatI can barely play minecraft with all settings on high, but yet can play left 4 dead @ over 60-70 fps
#1478 [12:03] <jimmybrite> yeah
#1479 [12:03] <It> what happens to be the issue
#1480 [12:03] <jimmybrite> I love it, it's just that intel is WAY behind amd when it comes to graphics
#1481 [12:03] <It> turn advanced opengl off
#1482 [12:03] <It> (it doesn't actually do anything)
#1483 [12:03] <jimmybrite> tried occlusion culling on/off, doesnt matter
#1484 [12:04] <jimmybrite> that's not the issue, it seems to not load the chunks fast enough or something
#1485 [12:04] <It> what do you have for a hdd
#1486 [12:04] <It> and what do you mean by chunks don't load fast enough? is this not an fps issue?
#1487 [12:05] <jimmybrite> on a radeon 3200hd IGP it plays with absolutely no stutter with graphics on high, far and even the screen resolution is higher
#1488 [12:05] <jimmybrite> nope
#1489 [12:05] <peru_> finally got 'ona rail' achievement.. turns out you have to leave virtual circle with radius of 1 km for it to be taken... my track were left/right/left/right so i had to travel circa 1,5km :)
#1490 [12:05] <jimmybrite> I get an awesome framerate, it's the unbearable jerkiness or "stutter" that I can't stand
#1491 [12:05] <It> hmm
#1492 [12:06] <It> are you using 32 bit java
#1493 [12:06] <progme> GreyVulpine: The last time I played was last October. I updated my client and server to 1.5 beta last night. I launched the client into sp and it stated that it was updating my world but everything appeared to be reset (i actually created a new world). I connected to my server and it appeared to update the world properly. Ideas?
#1494 [12:06] <It> can you use a command line
#1495 [12:06] <jimmybrite> and I tried every tweak available, I lowered my mem latency... I do have a "green" hard drive, but that's not the issue either
#1496 [12:06] <jimmybrite> 64 bit java 7 (latest build as of 2 days ago)
#1497 [12:06] <jimmybrite> I just wanted to put off getting a card for a while
#1498 [12:06] <It> prove it with java -version output
#1499 [12:07] <jimmybrite> build 138
#1500 [12:08] <It> just paste the entire thing mmkay (use right click, mark, select an area, hit enter to copy)
#1501 [12:08] <jimmybrite> java version "1.7.0-ea" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-ea-b138) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0-b08, mixed mode)
#1502 [12:08] <jimmybrite> yup gimme a sec, :P
#1503 [12:08] <It> ok
#1504 [12:08] <It> i believe you now
#1505 [12:09] <progme> for the love of god use privatepaste or something
#1506 [12:09] <jimmybrite> anyhow, I tried on 3 different pc's and mine gives me the worse gameplay
#1507 [12:09] <It> you wouldn't believe how many people think they do and don't
#1508 [12:09] <jimmybrite> oh no, I know my shit, I build my own systems
#1509 [12:09] <It> it's not even that long. I've written sentances longer than that
#1510 [12:09] <jimmybrite> I guess I really wanted to jump on the 2500k
#1511 [12:09] <It> its a great processor
#1512 [12:09] <jimmybrite> cause the 2500k is more powerful than current 6 core amd's lol
#1513 [12:09] <It> but I'd say its opengl support has issues
#1514 [12:10] <jimmybrite> yeah, and the gpu IS amazing... I get amazing framerates even with a game as new as NFS-Shift 2
#1515 [12:10] <It> (every intel graphics chip ever made does)
#1516 [12:10] <It> that's probably a directx game
#1517 [12:10] <jimmybrite> I know the hd2000 and lower sucks, but man..
#1518 [12:11] <jimmybrite> my buddy has a 915, and I can't even get dbl digit frames in mc
#1519 [12:11] <It> describe to me, in excruciating detail, the stutter
#1520 [12:11] <It> and framerates, and everything
#1521 [12:11] <jimmybrite> I wish I could record it with fraps, but then I get like 1 frame per 2 second
#1522 [12:11] <It> lol
#1523 [12:11] <It> maybe just buy a discrete card?
#1524 [12:11] <jimmybrite> the stutter is esp bad with fancy graphics on, oh and my gpu is oc'ed to 1600 mhz, over 1100 stock
#1525 [12:12] <jimmybrite> with them off its not as bad, but it still bad
#1526 [12:12] <It> I have a 9800 gtx+ and it can run fraps on minecraft at 1920x1080@60
#1527 [12:12] <jimmybrite> I know 303 updated optimine for 1.5_01, so I tried it.. but meh
#1528 [12:12] <jimmybrite> I LOVED caf for that
#1529 [12:12] <jimmybrite> so cant w8 for optifog OR cafmod
#1530 [12:12] <_303> hullo
#1531 [12:12] <jimmybrite> hehe
#1532 [12:12] <jimmybrite> or someone else, I know 303 took over inio's mod for a while
#1533 [12:12] <jimmybrite> :D
#1534 [12:13] <It> anywho, wheres those excruciating details
#1535 [12:13] <jimmybrite> see, I know what im doing, it's just SO HOPELESS
#1536 [12:13] <_303> it's not inio's mod, it's Scaevolus', but he's grown tired of minecraft
#1537 [12:13] <jimmybrite> yeah sorry
#1538 [12:13] <jimmybrite> getting mixed up, too many forums
#1539 [12:13] <jimmybrite> scavelous, then inio, then 303 ?
#1540 [12:13] <jimmybrite> lol
#1541 [12:14] <jimmybrite> I also updated my bukkit + essentials, and it's wonderful, but man why does my gpu have to suck so bad with minecraft
#1542 [12:14] <_303> nah, I updated optimine in 1.3_01 before inio did. just not released as I was waiting for scaevolus to tell me how to release it
#1543 [12:14] <It> details?
#1544 [12:14] <It> or are they not coming'
#1545 [12:14] <jimmybrite> My old x850 xt video card + mc 1.5 works like a dream but it's agp so I cant use it, lol
#1546 [12:15] <It> its definitely opengl problems with the intel chip, we're sure of that
#1547 [12:15] <jimmybrite> what do you mean by excruciating details
#1548 [12:15] <It> how exactly does it stutter
#1549 [12:15] <jimmybrite> it's stutter, it's esp bad with fancy on, and also when destroying leaves
#1550 [12:15] <It> I've seen many different kinds of stutter in my day
#1551 [12:16] <It> is it even?
#1552 [12:16] <jimmybrite> I walk then it freezes for 1.8th of a second, but it does that a cpl times in a row
#1553 [12:16] <jimmybrite> like I can bare lag, and slow framerates, but stutter, sucks
#1554 [12:16] <It> how often does it do it
#1555 [12:16] <It> shorts bursts or constantly?
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#1557 [12:16] <jimmybrite> short to medium bursts,
#1558 [12:17] <It> does cpu usage behave abnormally as it does so
#1559 [12:17] <jimmybrite> and I have no unnecessary services running, not even indexing...
#1560 [12:17] <jimmybrite> no javaupdsched or any crap like that
#1561 [12:17] <It> no antivirus software?
#1562 [12:18] <jimmybrite> security essentials, but it's on all my systems
#1563 [12:18] <It> add the saves folder to the exclusions?
#1564 [12:18] <jimmybrite> the footprint is pretty low, also inb4 microsoft sucks, I had nod32 before that so...
#1565 [12:18] <jimmybrite> also I don't get stutter in ubuntu, but the gpu drivers are not so great
#1566 [12:18] <It> i have norton and I can play minecraft even on this postop
#1567 [12:18] <jimmybrite> I JUST re-installed win7 64bit ent
#1568 [12:18] <bread> lol norton
#1569 [12:19] <gPad2002> Lol
#1570 [12:19] <jimmybrite> norton's footprint IS pretty bad
#1571 [12:19] <bread> nod32 is the best
#1572 [12:19] <gPad2002> People still use that?
#1573 [12:19] <bread> ESET ftw
#1574 [12:19] <gPad2002> Abase few
#1575 [12:19] <gPad2002> Avast*
#1576 [12:19] <It> course they're not, the 2500k hasnt been out long enough for the drivers to be properly functional in linux
#1577 [12:19] <jimmybrite> oh yeah, but honnestly, i'm impressed with microsoft security essentials, no bloatware, it JUST works...
#1578 [12:19] <It> i use avast on my deskie
#1579 [12:19] <bread> I use ClamAV now
#1580 [12:19] <bread> lolol
#1581 [12:19] <bread> 8D
#1582 [12:20] <gPad2002> I have avast pro
#1583 [12:20] <jimmybrite> NO, but man I'm impressed, eps with ubuntu 11.04
#1584 [12:20] <gPad2002> Sandbox is niiiice
#1585 [12:20] <bread> >:|
#1586 [12:20] <bread> Unity blows
#1587 [12:20] <It> I might as well just run without av
#1588 [12:20] <gPad2002> ^
#1589 [12:20] <bread> worse than Gnome3
#1590 [12:20] <jimmybrite> I still get 30 fps (where i'd get 120 in win7)
#1591 [12:20] <jimmybrite> I use gnome 2.x NO compiz
#1592 [12:20] <It> I don't think I've ever had an infection ever
#1593 [12:20] <jimmybrite> so its even FASTER
#1594 [12:20] <bread> dude
#1595 [12:20] <bread> use openbox
#1596 [12:20] <bread> even faster
#1597 [12:20] <bread> gnome is a bloaty bitch
#1598 [12:20] <jimmybrite> I tried, but it broke my 11.04, LOL
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#1600 [12:21] <jimmybrite> I had openbox on 10.10
#1601 [12:21] <bread> that's what you get for using lolbuntu
#1602 [12:21] <jimmybrite> I know
#1603 [12:21] <jimmybrite> DAMN AFRIKANS
#1604 [12:21] <bread> lol
#1605 [12:21] <jimmybrite> die antwoord rocks tho
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#1607 [12:21] <jimmybrite> and yo-landi vi$$er is sexy
#1608 [12:21] <bread> :o
#1609 [12:22] * xolotl respectfully disagrees, on both counts
#1609 [12:22] <mib_tez40r> hi can someone help me with a problem concerning WorldGuard (bukkit) ??
#1610 [12:22] <jimmybrite> I'm just waiting for that magical tweak that will allow me to play minecraft on another setting than tiny
#1611 [12:22] <It> someone can in #bukkit
#1612 [12:22] <mib_tez40r> oh thx
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#1614 [12:23] <It> i have lab reports to write
#1615 [12:23] <It> so I must go.
#1616 [12:23] <It> bbl, maybe. If I have'nt died
#1617 [12:23] <jimmybrite> but WHY, does it play without stutter/jerkiness/choppiness on my father's amd dual core, ati radeonhd3000(@ 497mhz) mine is at freaking 1600
#1618 [12:23] <jimmybrite> alright :D
#1619 [12:23] <It> megahertz means next to nothing, that's why
#1620 [12:23] <jimmybrite> I'm just in disbelief, time to get a fermi (or is it ferni)
#1621 [12:24] <It> m
#1622 [12:24] <jimmybrite> no, BUT his system cannot even play gta4
#1623 [12:24] <bread> furni lolol
#1624 [12:24] <jimmybrite> mine can @ over 50fps
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#1626 [12:24] <jimmybrite> he gets 1 fps with gta4
#1627 [12:24] <It> its the intel gpu opengl sick issue
#1628 [12:24] <It> symptoms: intel gpus suck at opengl
#1629 [12:24] <jimmybrite> he can also BARELY play l4d or mirror's edge, whereas my system gives me at least vsytc capable framerates
#1630 [12:25] <jimmybrite> vsync*
#1631 [12:25] <It> they always have. we get so much trouble from people with intel HD chipsed Qxyz
#1632 [12:25] <It> go file a customer support ticket with intel
#1633 [12:25] <It> if everyone does it, they might actually fix it
#1634 [12:25] <jimmybrite> I just feel, left out by intel, man i'll never speak badly of ati (amd) or nvidia again
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#1636 [12:25] <jimmybrite> that or get redhat
#1637 [12:26] <jimmybrite> apparently the redhat team is working on an actual DRIVER for the i5 hd2000/3000 series gpu
#1638 [12:26] <jimmybrite> so fedora anyone
#1639 [12:26] <It> you may have good luck with that
#1640 [12:26] <jimmybrite> myeah
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#1642 [12:28] <jimmybrite> I told myself, if I ever find a proper fix, i'll share it with people, because I SHOULD be able to play on max without any issues, it could be because of my weird monitor, which is an old 5:4 monitor, it COULD be messing up because of the scaling but I doubt it
#1643 [12:28] <jimmybrite> ahhh, DAMN YOU INTELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
#1644 [12:28] <bread> lol
#1645 [12:28] <jimmybrite> I haven't bought an intel processor in 10 years, lol
#1646 [12:30] <jimmybrite> and since I was too cheap to get the "good" motherboard which doesn't have gpu support, i'm stuck with a board that doesn't allow much tweaking and memory is locked at 1333mhz, sighs
#1647 [12:30] <jimmybrite> so I can forget about overclocking my 2500k to 4.5 ghz
#1648 [12:32] <bread> I'm on a shitty laptop so I can't do anything fancy.
#1649 [12:32] <dutchuss2016> the forums all say bukkits updated is this true cause i got the recent bukkit and i still cant get on my server with exteral ip
#1650 [12:32] <jimmybrite> I wish my old laptop would still work
#1651 [12:32] <jimmybrite> My bukkit IS working... so I dunno dude
#1652 [12:33] <jimmybrite> re-check your settings...
#1653 [12:33] <dutchuss2016> what version cb
#1654 [12:33] <jimmybrite> 689
#1655 [12:33] <jimmybrite> I just updated it 2 hrs ago
#1656 [12:33] <jimmybrite> tested it, and it worked fine, also essentials plugins
#1657 [12:33] <jimmybrite> 2.1
#1658 [12:34] <dutchuss2016> my server is running fine and all of the minecraft lists its on can connect adn ping it but no actual players can get on it
#1659 [12:34] <jimmybrite> i DID have some issues connecting a while ago tho
#1660 [12:34] <jimmybrite> where is your server located
#1661 [12:35] <jimmybrite> that happened to me once, but it's because I had bad network setting, I had Intenet connection sharing on, it has to be off, but then again I do piggyback my main pc's internet off of my old server
#1662 [12:35] <VoxelHead> WHY! WHY my piggy, WHY?? I loved you my piggy... I loved you
#1663 [12:35] <jimmybrite> lol
#1664 [12:36] <jimmybrite> piggyback = triggetbot
#1665 [12:36] <VoxelHead> I'm gonna sing the doom song now... dooom doom doom.
#1666 [12:36] <jimmybrite> trigger*
#1667 [12:36] <jimmybrite> haha
#1668 [12:36] <VoxelHead> No more waffles, GIR. No really, I'm starting to feel sick. *retch*
#1669 [12:36] <jimmybrite> Please tell me more.
#1670 [12:37] <dutchuss2016> yea i just beat portal 2 (out of boredom ) and then updated bukkit and ffs cant log in still
#1671 [12:37] <jimmybrite> did u /reload
#1672 [12:37] <jimmybrite> etc...
#1673 [12:38] <dutchuss2016> the console is still giving bad packet error
#1674 [12:38] <jimmybrite> sometimes ur setting may conflict when updating, look at those
#1675 [12:38] <jimmybrite> did u try JUST vanilla
#1676 [12:38] <dutchuss2016> when i updated craftbukkit the server was stopped so there was no need too /reload restarting the server managed that
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#1678 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> is bukkit even updated for 1.5 yet?
#1679 [12:39] <jimmybrite> yes
#1680 [12:39] <jimmybrite> Server = 1.5_02
#1681 [12:39] <jimmybrite> just like the vanilla mc server
#1682 [12:39] <dutchuss2016> apperently 689 is supposed otoo be for 1.5
#1683 [12:39] <[z]> "test build"
#1684 [12:40] <dutchuss2016> straight vanilla works but PLUGINS dont work with vanilla
#1685 [12:40] <jimmybrite> I just tried connecting again and it works, but I duno if an external ip can, I usually just play on my lan, lol
#1686 [12:40] <jimmybrite> yeah I know that
#1687 [12:40] <Nuclearfusion42> could someone help me with using the new 1.5_2 server software?
#1688 [12:40] <jimmybrite> plugins will only work with bukkit
#1689 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Nuclearfusion42 - What kind of help?
#1690 [12:40] <dutchuss2016> JIMMY if you like i can try connecting too yoru server
#1691 [12:40] <jimmybrite> or hmod, but that's another story
#1692 [12:41] <Nuclearfusion42> Well, I need help transferring my old server save and getting it set up really, seems totally different to me.
#1693 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> No need to transfer anything, just redownload the server, and replace the old one with the new one
#1694 [12:41] <Nuclearfusion42> I tried that
#1695 [12:42] <Nuclearfusion42> It just created new server files and created a new world
#1696 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> That's not supposed to happen..
#1697 [12:42] <Nuclearfusion42> O_o
#1698 [12:42] <Nuclearfusion42> Wonderful...
#1699 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Did you place it in the same directory where you had the old server?
#1700 [12:42] <Nuclearfusion42> yes
#1701 [12:43] <Nuclearfusion42> it's on my desktop just for ease of acsess
#1702 [12:44] <dutchuss2016> everythings working serverside just keeps getting bad packet errors
#1703 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> Nuclearfusion42 - It needs to be in a folder by itself.
#1704 [12:45] <Nuclearfusion42> Well yes...
#1705 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> When you run the server, it generates more files in the same directory
#1706 [12:45] <Nuclearfusion42> It is...
#1707 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> If you ran the server on the desktop, it generates files on the desktop as well
#1708 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> If you replaced the minecraft.exe on the desktop, it should've used the same files it generated before
#1709 [12:45] <Nuclearfusion42> in a folder on my desktop
#1710 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> unless you moved or deleted it
#1711 [12:45] <jimmybrite> is mcserverlist down
#1712 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> !isdown mcserverlist.com
#1713 [12:45] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://mcserverlist.com is up.
#1714 [12:45] <jimmybrite> no it aint
#1715 [12:45] <jimmybrite> bad gateway
#1716 [12:45] <jimmybrite> lol
#1717 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#1718 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> !isdown mcserverlist.net
#1719 [12:46] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://mcserverlist.net looks down from here.
#1720 [12:46] <jimmybrite> sometimes isitdownforeveryoneorjustme isn't always right
#1721 [12:46] <jimmybrite> ah!
#1722 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> It is, just did .com instead of .net
#1723 [12:46] <jimmybrite> spoke too fast
#1724 [12:46] <jimmybrite> true
#1725 [12:46] <Nuclearfusion42> I also get bad packet error whenever I try to join it
#1726 [12:47] <jimmybrite> I wanted to check my mcserverlist api key? is that what it's called
#1727 [12:47] <dutchuss2016> l e a r n t o u s e t h e s p a c e b a r
#1728 [12:47] <jimmybrite> I had setup a dynamic ip but last time it didnt seem to work
#1729 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Nuclearfusion42 - Did you get the latest 1.5_02 server from minecraft.net?
#1730 [12:47] <Nuclearfusion42> Yeah
#1731 [12:47] <jimmybrite> dutchuss2016: that's the NAME OF THE SITE
#1732 [12:47] <h> >502 Bad Gateway
#1733 [12:47] <Nuclearfusion42> I think
#1734 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Nuclearfusion42 - You think?
#1735 [12:47] <Nuclearfusion42> Well it was from the server list link,
#1736 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> That's the classic server
#1737 [12:48] <dutchuss2016> lol
#1738 [12:48] <Nuclearfusion42> wonderful -.-
#1739 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Server file for the beta server is http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1740 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#1741 [12:48] <Nuclearfusion42> Thank you
#1742 [12:48] <Nuclearfusion42> that makes sense :D
#1743 [12:49] <dutchuss2016> so whould i just keep running my test server till bukkit gets there heads outta there asses
#1744 [12:49] <jimmybrite> Even the original server is pretty fast now, I remember with 1.3 I couldn't break blocks it was so slow, the vanilla server I mean, not bukkit
#1745 [12:50] <jimmybrite> gimme ur ip
#1746 [12:50] <jimmybrite> in pv
#1747 [12:50] <jimmybrite> ill try
#1748 [12:50] <jimmybrite> and no, I wont grief, I hate griefers
#1749 [12:51] <dutchuss2016> me?
#1750 [12:51] <jimmybrite> yeah
#1751 [12:51] <jimmybrite> your saying external ip's dont work
#1752 [12:51] <jimmybrite> and it worked before
#1753 [12:52] <dutchuss2016> i sent you chat req
#1754 [12:52] <jimmybrite> Im using mibbit, I have no clue dude
#1755 [12:52] <jimmybrite> I haven't irc'd in ages, last time I had a custom configured xchat or mIRC
#1756 [12:53] <jimmybrite> not anymore
#1757 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> Look at the top
#1758 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> There should be a tab
#1759 [12:53] <jimmybrite> yeah it's been there for a while, I sent u msgs a while back
#1760 [12:53] <jimmybrite> I mean dutch
#1761 [12:53] <Nuclearfusion42> Thanks again for the help ^.^
#1762 [12:53] <Nuclearfusion42> Bye
#1763 [12:54] <jimmybrite> sall good now
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#1769 [13:02] <dutchuss2016> :( bukkit update why does it always take 5 days too update bukkit
#1770 [13:02] <dutchuss2016> every time bukkits finally stable notch goes and releases a new server
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#1772 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, notch needs to stop updating
#1773 [13:03] <mib_m7r8ft> when i load the classic game it said pixel not formatted what do i do???
#1774 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Update your video driver
#1775 [13:05] <mib_m7r8ft> how do i do that?
#1776 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what kind of video card you have?
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#1778 [13:06] <Mikau> You guys, I almost died! :o
#1779 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> Sweet!
#1780 [13:06] <VoxelHead> Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!
#1781 [13:06] <Mikau> http://i.imgur.com/ApCCW.jpg
#1782 [13:06] <Mikau> !!!!
#1783 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> Aww
#1784 [13:06] <Mikau> I saw lightning flash, so I waited to try and screenshot it
#1785 [13:06] <mib_m7r8ft> ummm how do i find what gadrive i have is it the type of computer
#1786 [13:06] <Mikau> as I'm waiting, the next bolt almost hits me in the face :S
#1787 [13:10] <mib_m7r8ft> ....
#1788 [13:12] <mib_m7r8ft> when i load the classic game it said pixel not formatted what do i do???
#1789 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_m7r8ft - What operating system does your computer run?
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#1791 [13:13] <lost2> hello?
#1792 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1793 [13:14] <mib_m7r8ft> what dp u mean
#1794 [13:14] <lost2> When I go on multiplayer and try to connect to a minecraft server this shows: internal exception java.net.socketexception connection reset
#1795 [13:14] <lost2> I don’t get the massage when I’m plugged in with a LAN cable, but only when I’m on wifi.
#1796 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_m7r8ft - Are you running a mac, windows, or linux system?
#1797 [13:14] <lost2> windows 7
#1798 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> lost2 - What minecraft server are you trying to connect to?
#1799 [13:15] <lost2> mc.larsj.net
#1800 [13:15] <mib_m7r8ft> window playing classic and single player
#1801 [13:15] <lost2> ye
#1802 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_m7r8ft - I need you to do this for me
#1803 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#1804 [13:15] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1805 [13:15] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#1807 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> lost2 - And it works if you have an ethernet cable connected, but not wifi?
#1808 [13:16] <lost2> yes
#1809 [13:16] <mib_m7r8ft> how about me
#1810 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_m7r8ft - I just told you what I need you to do
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#1812 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#1813 [13:16] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1814 [13:16] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1815 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> lost2 - Is this your server?
#1816 [13:16] <lost2> no my friends server
#1817 [13:17] <mib_m7r8ft> i dont need a server
#1818 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_m7r8ft - Please give me a dxdiag report
#1819 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> lost2 - Is your friend hosting it in the same house as you?
#1820 [13:17] <lost2> no
#1821 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> lost2 - Where is he hosting it?
#1822 [13:18] <mib_m7r8ft> i need to know how to start minecraft classic and the problem is it said pixel not accelerated ]
#1823 [13:18] <lost2> im not shure...
#1824 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_m7r8ft - I'm trying to help you, but you're not giving me what I need to do to help you
#1825 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> I need a dxdiag report from you mib_m7r8ft
#1826 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_m7r8ft - Please follow these directions
#1827 [13:19] <mib_m7r8ft> ????
#1828 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_m7r8ft win/dxdiag
#1829 [13:19] <VoxelHead> mib_m7r8ft: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1830 [13:19] <mib_m7r8ft> ok
#1831 [13:19] <VoxelHead> mib_m7r8ft: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1832 [13:19] <lost2> but i get the same error when i try to connetct ather servers as vell
#1833 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> lost2 - Can you try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net
#1834 [13:19] <lost2> ye
#1835 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Does it work?
#1836 [13:20] <lost2> it worked!
#1837 [13:20] <lost2> hmm...
#1838 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, then nothing on your end
#1839 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> I can't connect to your friend's server as well
#1840 [13:20] <lost2> aha...
#1841 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> I don't know how he's hosting it, otherwise I could help you further
#1842 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Could you get him to hop on here?
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#1844 [13:21] <lost2> i dont think so...
#1845 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Then I don't really know how to help him set up his server
#1846 [13:21] <lost2> thet is okei...
#1847 [13:22] <lost2> but ty for the help ;-)
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#1849 [13:23] <mib_m7r8ft> wait do i copy and paste the whole document or just the word inside the document
#1850 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Everything you see in the document
#1851 [13:25] <mib_m7r8ft> .... so i post it on that website but i dont see how that helps me
#1852 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> No, that helps me
#1853 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> So I can figure out your system's specs, so I can help you further
#1854 [13:25] <mib_m7r8ft> ok so i did it
#1855 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Please give me the URL it gives you
#1856 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> What's the website's address
#1857 [13:26] <mib_m7r8ft> http://pastebin.com/Tth2Ha9z
#1858 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Thank you, one sec
#1859 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> You're running a NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 video card, please go to:
#1860 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.19_whql.html
#1861 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Download and install that, those are the video drivers for you
#1862 [13:28] <mib_m7r8ft> is it safe to install
#1863 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Would I be giving you unsafe links to install?
#1864 [13:28] <mib_m7r8ft> ok thanks
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#1869 [13:40] <Valkyrie> Hey
#1870 [13:40] <Valkyrie> How do you turn on rain?
#1871 [13:40] <Valkyrie> Well, weather, really.
#1872 [13:40] <Coll> it turns itself on
#1873 [13:40] <Valkyrie> It hasn't in like, two hours
#1874 [13:40] <Coll> are you in a desert
#1875 [13:40] <Valkyrie> Nope. Grassy.
#1876 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Are you running 1.5?
#1877 [13:40] <Valkyrie> Yup.
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#1879 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Then it's just a matter of time.
#1880 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> All random
#1881 [13:41] <Valkyrie> Alright, thanks.
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#1883 [13:41] <frogonia> hey it me again the download the software and now my screen/ color is mess up
#1884 [13:42] <bokaholic> Hmm.. Wonder where Thoatt has been?
#1885 [13:43] <frogonia> the graphic of my computer is now bad after u told me to download the software for my hardware
#1886 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> frogonia - Um, can you right click on your desktop, go to properties, and choose a different color depth
#1887 [13:44] <frogonia> where??
#1888 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Under the settings tab, color quality
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#1891 [13:46] <mib_65hsyz> hey, i have a problem setting up a multipalyerserver
#1892 [13:47] <frogonia> no not the game my whole computer
#1893 [13:47] <frogonia> ....
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#1896 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> frogonia - Yes, on your windows desktop, right click on it with your mouse, choose "properties". Then go to the settings tab and change the color quality
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#1898 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_65hsyz - Could you be more specific?
#1899 [13:47] <mib_65hsyz> 2011-04-21 19:38:15 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.5_02 2011-04-21 19:38:15 [INFO] Loading properties 2011-04-21 19:38:15 [WARNING] server.properties does not exist 2011-04-21 19:38:15 [INFO] Generating new properties file 2011-04-21 19:38:15 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565 2011-04-21 19:38:15 [SEVERE] Unexpected exception java.la
#1900 [13:47] <mib_65hsyz> how can i fix that?
#1901 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Please don't paste it here.
#1902 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Use pastebin.com
#1903 [13:48] <Takaoldaria> Excuse me, but I can't connect to any Minecraft Classic servers, what's going on?
#1904 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Takaoldaria - What do you mean? The server list is up
#1905 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Takaoldaria - Did you log into minecraft.net?
#1906 [13:48] <Takaoldaria> Well, when I try to connect to any server, my browser just crashes.
#1907 [13:49] <Takaoldaria> It was fine this morning.
#1908 [13:49] <mib_65hsyz> can someone help me with http://pastebin.com/Zf4f6fVY
#1909 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Takaoldaria - Perhaps clear your browser's cache, reboot your machine, see if it still does it?
#1910 [13:49] <frogonia> doesnt work i mean the screen resolution is zoom so much some of my software doesnt work is their some way i can get it back to normal
#1911 [13:49] <Takaoldaria> *clearing cache*
#1912 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> frogonia - Ah, under the settings tab, bring your screen resolution up
#1913 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_65hsyz - Are you using the original server file found at http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1914 [13:51] <mib_65hsyz> yes i just redwonladoed it and the same error again
#1915 [13:51] <Takaoldaria> *rebooting machine*
#1916 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_65hsyz - try putting it in a new folder, by itself, and launching it
#1917 [13:52] <mib_65hsyz> ok
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#1919 [13:54] <VoxelHead> Mmm Szernex.
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#1921 [13:55] <mib_65hsyz> is there any difference between -AmdS and -S
#1922 [13:55] <mib_65hsyz> i mean for the server
#1923 [13:56] <frogaincia> i hhave rebooted my system and cleared my cache but still the quality is bad is their someway i can uninstall the software
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#1925 [13:56] <Takaoldaria> Rebooted. I'm checking if it works.
#1926 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - You weren't able to up the screen resolution?
#1927 [13:57] <frogaincia> n ope
#1928 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Under the settings tab of the display properties?
#1929 [13:57] <mib_65hsyz> ok i redownload the server file again
#1930 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> When you right clicked on your desktop
#1931 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> There should've been a slider on the screen resolution you can drag to the right to make it bigger frogaincia
#1932 [13:58] <VoxelHead> i like them :-)
#1933 [13:59] <frogaincia> you told me that 2min ago but nothing happen i think the software u made me download for classic minecraft messed up my computer
#1934 [13:59] <[E]MARANTz> anyone here know where to upload minecraft skins?
#1935 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> It didn't, it's the drivers your machine needs
#1936 [13:59] <VoxelHead> no.
#1937 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> [E]MARANTz - It's on the profile page at minecraft.net, after you log in
#1938 [13:59] <[E]MARANTz> What i mean is, like a site. Where other people can download it :)
#1939 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Oh, try the skindex
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#1941 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftskins.com/
#1942 [14:00] <[E]MARANTz> GreyVulpine: i know that much :D
#1943 [14:00] <[E]MARANTz> ok, thanks :)
#1944 [14:01] <frogaincia> so then can what happen i mean the color quality is extremely bad i went to minecraft and it said adobe crfash so now i need to know how to fix this
#1945 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - I don't exactly know what you mean by "the color quality is extremely bad"
#1946 [14:01] <mib_65hsyz> http://mibpaste.com/HDnM5Y what about that?
#1947 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_65hsyz - Can you give me the output of: java -version
#1948 [14:02] <mib_65hsyz> mom
#1949 [14:02] <mib_65hsyz> http://mibpaste.com/ke67pf
#1950 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to look into installing sun java 1.6 for your system
#1951 [14:03] <frogaincia> umm the graphic of my screen is now in many different colors like im using firefox and right now on this website the blue have dot pixel of white ( white dot)
#1952 [14:03] <mib_65hsyz> how can i install this?
#1953 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> For, ubuntu, mib_65hsyz, it's: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#1954 [14:04] <mib_65hsyz> ok
#1955 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - Can you go back to your desktop on windows, right click on your desktop, go to properties, go to the settings tab at the top.. then tell me what the color depth is
#1956 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> or color quality
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#1958 [14:06] <mib_iskjml> ...
#1959 [14:07] <mib_iskjml> im the screen resolution guy i rebnooted my computer several times but it wont work
#1960 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - Can you go back to your desktop on windows, right click on your desktop, go to properties, go to the settings tab at the top.. then tell me what the color depth is
#1961 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> or color quality
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#1963 [14:10] <mib_iskjml> 4bit but i chan\ged it to high and the appearance is still the same
#1964 [14:10] <mib_iskjml> is there a possible way to fix this
#1965 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> You changed it to what?
#1966 [14:11] <mib_iskjml> 32bit
#1967 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> did you click 'apply'?
#1968 [14:12] <mib_iskjml> so can you do anything
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#1970 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> I think I need to see this, can you take a screenshot of what you see right now, using the prnt screen button on your keyboard
#1971 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Go to the start menu, go to programs, under the accessories group, click on paint
#1972 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Then, go to edit, and select paste. Once you have a picture of your desktop, save it. Choose "png" as the "save as type"
#1973 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Save it somewhere on your desktop, using whatever name you want
#1974 [14:14] <mib_iskjml> i did but the this happen right when you send me that website to install i did that and it said to reboot ur system then i did so when it restarted it turn to this
#1975 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Open up your browser, go to imgur.com. Choose to upload that picture you just saved in paint, then give me the URL
#1976 [14:15] <mib_iskjml> is their some way where i can show you an image
#1977 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Follow those directions I just typed.
#1978 [14:15] <mib_iskjml> how do i copy that the image
#1979 [14:16] <mib_iskjml> ok
#1980 [14:16] <bokaholic> I can't seem to sleep in a bed, in a completely closed off room anymore.
#1981 [14:17] <bokaholic> I always get woken by a zombie/mob.
#1982 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> bokaholic - Even if the bed is not placed against a wall?
#1983 [14:17] <bokaholic> I've tried a dozen or so times. Every time. o.o
#1984 [14:17] <bokaholic> Yeah
#1985 [14:17] <bokaholic> It's strange. :o
#1986 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#1987 [14:18] <bokaholic> It's not too big a deal.
#1988 [14:18] <bokaholic> Just mostly a pain in my butt. :o
#1989 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, haven't heard of anything like that for 1.5 yet
#1990 [14:18] <mib_iskjml> hey umm i told adobe crashes now so is there another way to send an image
#1991 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> adobe crashes?
#1992 [14:19] * bokaholic boggles.
#1992 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> bokaholic: don't put the bed next to a wall.
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#1994 [14:22] <AWildRogue> Alright, since people in #minecraft don't seem to know, does anyone happen to know where the water textures are stored in a texpack?
#1995 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_65hsyz - This sounds like a problem with adobe then.
#1996 [14:22] <bokaholic> @DopeGhoti Yeah, got that. It's not. o.o
#1997 [14:22] <AWildRogue> the ones in terrain.png aren't used apparently
#1998 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> huh.
#1999 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> AWildRogue - It isn't, it's generated.
#2000 [14:22] <AWildRogue> ah
#2001 [14:22] <AWildRogue> that's what I was wondering
#2002 [14:22] <AWildRogue> wait
#2003 [14:22] <AWildRogue> so you can't edit the shimering effect either?
#2004 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Not without modding the client
#2005 [14:22] <AWildRogue> ah
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#2008 [14:36] <zelda> PORN
#2009 [14:36] <zelda> PORN
#2010 [14:36] <zelda> PORN
#2011 [14:36] <zelda> PORN
#2012 [14:36] <zelda> PORN
#2013 [14:36] <zelda> PORN
#2014 [14:36] <zelda> PORN
#2015 [14:36] <zelda> PORN
#2016 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> !k zelda
#2017 [14:36] * GreyBot kicked zelda from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:632>)
#2018 [14:36] <bokaholic> O.o
#2019 [14:36] <bokaholic> Haha. Well then.
#2020 [14:37] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2020 [14:37] <NotiCon> so much noise without any decent sources :/
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#2024 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> Some people must be.. really bored.
#2025 [14:43] <AWildRogue> we need 5 people to join #minecraft (who aren't already in #Minecraft)
#2026 [14:43] <AWildRogue> to get 666 people in the room :D
#2027 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> uh, why?
#2028 [14:43] <bokaholic> O jeeze..
#2029 [14:43] <AWildRogue> 2 more
#2030 [14:44] <bread> two!
#2031 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> /mode #minecraft +l 665
#2032 [14:44] <AWildRogue> ha, got it
#2033 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> Horray, you are now divisible by 111?
#2034 [14:45] <bread> :D
#2035 [14:45] <bokaholic> lol
#2036 [14:45] <VoxelHead> =)
#2037 [14:45] <xolotl> #minecraft has been oscillating around that usercount since I started idling there, months ago
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#2040 [14:46] <seguso> hello
#2041 [14:46] <seguso> i'm in need of 1.4 .. how would i get that (legally)?
#2042 [14:46] <NotiCon> not possible
#2043 [14:46] <seguso> not? :(
#2044 [14:47] <seguso> so i cant login to my servers and all my games?
#2045 [14:47] <NotiCon> update your servers?
#2046 [14:47] <seguso> this sucks :(
#2047 [14:47] <seguso> lol?
#2048 [14:47] <VoxelHead> This = flid-cheese in the butt.
#2049 [14:47] <seguso> gimme bukkit for 1.5
#2050 [14:47] <seguso> and i happily do so :p
#2051 [14:47] <seguso> i have 1.4 at home fortunately but not here
#2052 [14:47] <seguso> grr
#2053 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> test build is out for 1.5, but isn't intended for public consumption yet
#2054 [14:48] <seguso> but i can at least chat on console
#2055 [14:48] <seguso> *sigh*
#2056 [14:48] <seguso> oh? good to know, though
#2057 [14:48] <bread> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/DESKTOPS/herpderp/Screenshot03.png :>
#2058 [14:48] <seguso> any chance it will be released over easter?
#2059 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Check #bukkit
#2060 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> No idea.
#2061 [14:48] <seguso> yeah wont update now anyway
#2062 [14:48] <NotiCon> bread: slow link is being slow :(
#2063 [14:49] <bread> :<
#2064 [14:49] <NotiCon> there we go
#2065 [14:49] <bread> :D
#2066 [14:49] <VoxelHead> =]
#2067 [14:50] <bread> Third to last line from the bottom, middle of the screen :P
#2068 [14:51] <NotiCon> is VoxelHead alive again?
#2069 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> Vox, are you alive?
#2070 [14:51] <VoxelHead> yeah want a go? :)
#2071 [14:51] <NotiCon> or is it just ignoring me? :/
#2072 [14:51] * bread hugs vox
#2072 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> NotiCon: how do you mean?
#2073 [14:52] <VoxelHead> ~oof~
#2074 [14:52] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :
ACTION smacks VoxelHead around a bit with DopeGhoti

#2075 [14:52] <VoxelHead> arrgh my brain! now i only have 9 left
#2076 [14:52] <bread> :o
#2077 [14:52] <VoxelHead> look, here in this box
#2078 [14:52] * bread looks in vox's box.
#2078 [14:52] <VoxelHead> I can still see you...
#2079 [14:52] <bread> :O
#2080 [14:52] * bread flees.
#2080 [14:52] <VoxelHead> shucks
#2081 [14:52] * NotiCon stabs VoxelHead
#2081 [14:52] <VoxelHead> i do love a good stabsing
#2082 [14:53] <NotiCon> oh maybe it was just being silly the last few days i tried doing stuff to it
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#2084 [14:56] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =(
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#2087 [14:59] <Aconitin> hello
#2088 [14:59] <Aconitin> one question, how can i give a normal player the right to perform the /list-command on my server?
#2089 [15:00] <xolotl> Aconitin: On vanilla, you can't
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#2091 [15:00] <Aconitin> vanilla?
#2092 [15:00] <xolotl> Aconitin: Users are either full ops, or not
#2093 [15:00] <VoxelHead> last night, yes
#2094 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> That command doesn't exist on vanilla minecraft
#2095 [15:00] <xolotl> Aconitin: "vanilla" == The default, untouched, unmodded server
#2096 [15:00] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Isn't there /list ?
#2097 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Unless you're talking about a modded bukkit server with permissions
#2098 [15:00] <VoxelHead> no.
#2099 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe so?
#2100 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> there's /listplayers, or was it /playerlist
#2101 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> But no /list
#2102 [15:01] <xolotl> No, it's /list
#2103 [15:01] <xolotl> Just checked
#2104 [15:01] <seguso> or /online
#2105 [15:01] <seguso> some servers /list dont work
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#2107 [15:01] <Aconitin> well, i got some normal, unmodded server and OPs can /list the players, but normal users cant, which is quite annoying for the normal people cause they never know who is online
#2108 [15:02] <xolotl> Aconitin: Right. At the moment that's just how it is
#2109 [15:02] <Aconitin> i see. Thanks for your help =)
#2110 [15:02] <xolotl> (I do agree that that should probably change)
#2111 [15:02] <seguso> lots should change regarding MP i guess :)
#2112 [15:02] <Aconitin> thats why its called beta^^
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#2118 [15:09] <MC20> Hey, It appears that the forgot password page is broken, any advice?
#2119 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> I've been trying to contact mollstam about that, haven't gotten a reply yet
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#2121 [15:10] <MC20> Oh, thanks for the info, I guess I'll have to contemplate getting a life until I can get my password back
#2122 [15:11] <aetherian> you can never go back, MC20
#2123 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> There is no life, only Zuul^WMinecraft.
#2124 [15:11] <aetherian> Zuul^W ?
#2125 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> yeah, old ghostbusters movie ref
#2126 [15:12] <aetherian> ah
#2127 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> Ctrl-W is a common keyboard shortcut for 'delete the previous word'. See also tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitle0t9r68ih
#2128 [15:12] <MC20> I really want to play minecraft... god damned broken page -.-
#2129 [15:13] <jimmybrite> zuul motherfucker (sorry)
#2130 [15:13] <aetherian> MC20: maybe you could...
#2131 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> shouldn't have forgotten your password then.
#2132 [15:13] <aetherian> remember your password :D
#2133 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> jimmybrite: I said 'Zuul'.. what?
#2134 [15:13] <Aconitin> you could play classic for a while =)
#2135 [15:13] <MC20> It's more of a "wow my brother is a douche" than me forgetting my password...
#2136 [15:13] <jimmybrite> THat guy with the glasses, doug
#2137 [15:13] <jimmybrite> he says that sometimes, in his nostalgia critic reviews
#2138 [15:13] <MC20> I can still play SP with the client, but I want to play with my friends :D
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#2140 [15:14] * aetherian is happy with single player.
#2140 [15:14] <MC20> multiplayer with friends is superior :D
#2141 [15:14] <jimmybrite> yeah well, I have no friends
#2142 [15:14] <MC20> as we make our under water atlantis ;)
#2143 [15:14] <MC20> Oh that sucks.
#2144 [15:15] <jimmybrite> so when I play, and I have single player commands, I call on LOTSA friends /spawn creeper 1024 or /spawn monster 1024
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#2146 [15:15] <jimmybrite> lol
#2147 [15:15] <jimmybrite> then it's a fuckin rave
#2148 [15:16] <MC20> spc ftw :)
#2149 [15:16] <MC20> the wand is a masterful tool..
#2150 [15:16] <jimmybrite> I know it rocks
#2151 [15:16] <jimmybrite> wand?
#2152 [15:16] <jimmybrite> as in instantmine
#2153 [15:16] <_303> that's actually worldedit
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#2155 [15:17] <_303> which SPC provides an interface for for using it in singleplayer
#2156 [15:17] <jimmybrite> I never actually USED worldedit,
#2157 [15:17] <jimmybrite> just /instantmine and crap
#2158 [15:17] <jimmybrite> also /drops
#2159 [15:17] <jimmybrite> makes my game lag a lot less, esp when detonating MASSIVE amounts of tnt
#2160 [15:18] <MC20> yeah, world edit is fun for buildworlds
#2161 [15:18] <aetherian> why can't everyone just use vanilla D:
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#2164 [15:18] <jimmybrite> I use vanilla like 80% of the time
#2165 [15:18] <jimmybrite> I have what I call my "legit" games, and my non legit
#2166 [15:19] <Aconitin> dito
#2167 [15:19] <aetherian> I have what I call my legit games, and my other legit games.
#2168 [15:19] <jimmybrite> I even hate when chunk errors happen on my legit games
#2169 [15:19] <jimmybrite> lol
#2170 [15:19] <aetherian> uh
#2171 [15:19] <aetherian> is that in multiplayer?
#2172 [15:19] <jimmybrite> nop
#2173 [15:19] <aetherian> oh
#2174 [15:19] <aetherian> I...
#2175 [15:20] <aetherian> I never get any sort of errors myself, game crashing, terrain, or otherwise
#2176 [15:20] <jimmybrite> I rarely get em, im talking about where you can see dungeons/tunnels
#2177 [15:20] <jimmybrite> 1.5 did that a lot! 1.4_01 doesnt
#2178 [15:20] <jimmybrite> 1.5_01 *
#2179 [15:20] <Aconitin> i use chunk errors for efficient mining =)
#2180 [15:21] <NotiCon> i just have games
#2181 [15:21] <aetherian> oh
#2182 [15:21] <aetherian> I haven't played 1.5* yet :|
#2183 [15:21] <jimmybrite> check out coe's latest video, he got a major chunk error
#2184 [15:21] <jimmybrite> using 1.5
#2185 [15:22] <jimmybrite> Well, in his case, it was more due to occlusion culling errors,
#2186 [15:22] <jimmybrite> which I had too with 1.5
#2187 [15:23] <jimmybrite> when you switch from and to advanced opengl with 1.5 it does that
#2188 [15:23] <jimmybrite> you should check out 1.5 man
#2189 [15:24] <aetherian> brb, removing life threatening objects from my room.
#2190 [15:24] <jimmybrite> ok...?
#2191 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> must not be that much of a threat if he's taking the time to tell IRC about them
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#2193 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> Unless they're banana slugs or something.
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#2195 [15:26] <NotiCon> aetherian: how come?
#2196 [15:27] <VoxelHead> bye Juze
#2197 [15:28] <aetherian> back
#2198 [15:30] <aetherian> NotiCon: because I don't want my little brothers to accidentally or otherwise put the leaves of the plant in their mouths
#2199 [15:30] <NotiCon> oh
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#2201 [15:34] <sprog> i can't feed the wolves...?
#2202 [15:36] <NotiCon> only with pork
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#2210 [15:53] <AWildRogue> question: how is opacity in the ice rendered?
#2211 [15:54] <AWildRogue> because I figured that it would have a set opacity, but then I made a new texture, and it's fully opaque
#2212 [15:54] <AWildRogue> then I tried saving the .png with the texture having 50% opacity, and it was still opaque (but lighter)
#2213 [15:55] <Captain-Lightning> ./join #risucraft
#2214 [15:55] <AWildRogue> ?
#2215 [15:55] <Captain-Lightning> Mod help.
#2216 [15:56] <AWildRogue> it's not really a mod though
#2217 [15:56] <dr_bibble> used to be
#2218 [15:56] <bread> have you looked at other texture packs' ice textures?
#2219 [15:56] <VoxelHead> let me check your horoscope
#2220 [15:56] <bread> ...
#2221 [15:56] <bread> :D
#2222 [15:56] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2223 [15:56] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: have you found any nice stuff lately?
#2224 [15:56] <VoxelHead> we don't like to talk about that anymore uNf
#2225 [15:57] <NotiCon> :(
#2226 [15:57] * VoxelHead tickles Noticon
#2226 [15:57] <aetherian> heh
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#2228 [15:57] <NotiCon> teehee
#2229 [15:57] <mameman> i get this every single time i try to sign in, multiple computers, days apart "Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes."
#2230 [15:57] * VoxelHead is away: town
#2230 [15:57] <bread> have fun vox!
#2231 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> mameman: that means that the login servers are overloaded. Grab a cup of tea, and come back later.
#2232 [15:58] <mameman> then they have been overloaded for days, maybe even a week
#2233 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> I am not sure if this is centralized, or of they are throttling your IP block, or what.
#2234 [15:59] <mameman> ive switched ISPs for other reasons, it happened on both
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#2242 [16:21] <gPortal2002> It is time
#2243 [16:21] <gPortal2002> for the next installment
#2244 [16:21] <gPortal2002> of my epic bot
#2245 [16:21] <NotiCon> is it?!?
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#2249 [16:23] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#2250 [16:23] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#2251 [16:23] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#2252 [16:23] <g> ~shorten http://mcplusplus.net
#2253 [16:23] <g> errur
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#2255 [16:24] <Snapple_apple> Hello
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#2257 [16:24] <Snapple_apple> anyone here?
#2258 [16:24] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#2259 [16:24] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#2260 [16:24] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#2261 [16:24] <g> ~shorten http://mcplusplus.net
#2262 [16:24] <g> Key error
#2263 [16:24] <Snapple_apple> is anyone here except for me?
#2264 [16:25] <NotiCon> no
#2265 [16:25] <Snapple_apple> I really need help i dont care about portal 2 this is MINECRAFT help
#2266 [16:26] <g> ??ask
#2267 [16:26] <g> ?? ask
#2268 [16:26] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2269 [16:26] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2270 [16:26] <Snapple_apple> voxel did you see my problem he last time i was here?
#2271 [16:26] <Snapple_apple> the problem*
#2272 [16:27] <g> It's a bot
#2273 [16:27] <g> derp
#2274 [16:27] <Snapple_apple> when i open minecraft after completely redownloadin minecraft and java it just automatically black screens help me
#2275 [16:27] <g> Graphics drivers
#2276 [16:27] <g> U[date them
#2277 [16:27] <g> Update*
#2278 [16:27] <Snapple_apple> i dont need to
#2279 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> what OS? What version of Java? What video card? What version of the drivers?
#2280 [16:27] <Snapple_apple> this happened 2 days ago
#2281 [16:28] <Snapple_apple> it worked and now its fucked up again
#2282 [16:28] <jimmybrite> could it be a conflict with java
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#2284 [16:28] <jimmybrite> that may happen if you have 4-5 different builds/versions
#2285 [16:28] <Snapple_apple> i frigging updated to the latest version of java smartass
#2286 [16:28] <Snapple_apple> i frigging updated to the latest version of java smartass
#2287 [16:28] <jimmybrite> go fuck yopurself ok
#2288 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Easy there guys.
#2289 [16:29] <jimmybrite> that clear\
#2290 [16:29] <Snapple_apple> i already said it
#2291 [16:29] <Snapple_apple> i said the same thing 2 times by accident
#2292 [16:29] <jimmybrite> so what, we're trying to help and ur calling me a smartass
#2293 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Snapple_apple - Did this occur with the latest release of 1.5?
#2294 [16:29] <Snapple_apple> i already said i updated java to the l8st version
#2295 [16:29] <seguso> hmm, i tried that in #bukkit, but i want to ask here anyway: does anyone know about a SMP problem, where suddenly a huge block is missing - server-wise? Almost looks like a chunk error from a player's perspective, except it isn't cause it's not all height levels, only cuts out a block.
#2296 [16:29] <Snapple_apple> nope
#2297 [16:29] <g> seguso: Known bug
#2298 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> seguso - Yeah, that's a common problem
#2299 [16:29] <seguso> chests get dissolved, items on the new "floor"
#2300 [16:29] <g> Rejoining is the only way
#2301 [16:30] <seguso> g: ah okay... but... how to prevent?
#2302 [16:30] <seguso> no no
#2303 [16:30] <jimmybrite> w8 for rb
#2304 [16:30] <seguso> not rejoining
#2305 [16:30] <seguso> the part is actually missing
#2306 [16:30] <seguso> the world file on the server is corrupt
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#2308 [16:30] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#2309 [16:30] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#2310 [16:30] <seguso> it'S not a chunk error
#2311 [16:30] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#2312 [16:30] <g> ~shorten http://mcplusplus.net
#2313 [16:30] <g> argh
#2314 [16:30] <g> ~shorten mcplusplus.net
#2315 [16:31] <g> anh that does nothing
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#2317 [16:31] <seguso> only solution is: generate new map. we used backups.. worked.. for a while.. then same problem occured
#2318 [16:31] <sithrebel16> hi
#2319 [16:31] <sithrebel16> aetherian
#2320 [16:31] <seguso> we believe it maybe related to worldedit.. or to the fact that the map was generated pre-beta
#2321 [16:31] <aetherian> what
#2322 [16:31] <aetherian> crap
#2323 [16:31] <sithrebel16> hi
#2324 [16:31] <sithrebel16> bye
#2325 [16:32] <bread> >:|
#2326 [16:32] <NotiCon> noes he came here
#2327 [16:32] <bread> I wonder
#2328 [16:32] <bread> !kick bread YEAH
#2329 [16:32] <bread> damn
#2330 [16:32] <NotiCon> who will kick him first?
#2331 [16:32] <aetherian> fail
#2332 [16:32] <bread> lol
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#2334 [16:34] <h2> bread
#2335 [16:34] <bread> ...
#2336 [16:34] <aetherian> oh. shit.
#2337 [16:34] <notbread> .
#2338 [16:34] <NotiCon> silly guy
#2339 [16:34] <bread> :>
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#2341 [16:34] <notbread> tell me how you did the timer and ill leave you alone
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#2343 [16:35] <g> ~shorten http://mcplusplus.net
#2344 [16:35] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
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#2346 [16:35] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#2347 [16:35] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#2348 [16:35] <g> ah, I see
#2349 [16:35] <g> exceptions.AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split'
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#2351 [16:36] <g> Okay
#2352 [16:36] <g> This should do it
#2353 [16:36] <g> Sorry for the spam, guys
#2354 [16:36] <bread> :D
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#2356 [16:36] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#2357 [16:36] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#2358 [16:36] <bread> eek
#2359 [16:36] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#2360 [16:36] <g> ~shorten http://mcplusplus.net
#2361 [16:36] <g> ding!
#2362 [16:36] <g> it works
#2363 [16:36] <NotiCon> you sure ? o:
#2364 [16:36] <g> [21:36] -McPlusPlus- http://is.gd/jUzER7
#2365 [16:36] <g> yes
#2366 [16:37] <NotiCon> oic
#2367 [16:37] <g> oh, fuu
#2368 [16:37] <g> Firefox can't find the server at www.httpmcplusplus.net.
#2369 [16:37] <bread> lol
#2370 [16:37] <g> lol
#2371 [16:37] <bread> derp
#2372 [16:37] <NotiCon> silly
#2373 [16:37] <g> I know what it is this time then :P
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#2375 [16:38] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Portal 2 Review (Anonymous) - Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:13:33 +0200
#2376 [16:38] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#2377 [16:38] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#2378 [16:38] <g> ~shorten http://mcplusplus.net
#2379 [16:38] <g> that did it
#2380 [16:38] <bread> \o/
#2381 [16:38] <g> and if I do it again..
#2382 [16:38] <g> ~shorten http://mcplusplus.net
#2383 [16:38] <g> yes
#2384 [16:38] <g> it gives me the same link
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#2387 [16:39] <g> ~stfu
#2388 [16:39] <bread> ~pooper
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#2392 [16:46] <geo929> i need help
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#2394 [16:46] <NotiCon> ?? ask
#2395 [16:46] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2396 [16:46] <g> ?? ask
#2397 [16:46] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2398 [16:46] <g> ninjas, ninjas everywhere
#2399 [16:46] <bread> lol
#2400 [16:46] * NotiCon throws at ninjasuit at g
#2400 [16:46] <geo929> when i try to play minecraft it says not enough pixles
#2401 [16:47] <g> not enough pixels
#2402 [16:47] <g> what
#2403 [16:47] <geo929> hold on
#2404 [16:47] <NotiCon> someone ate his pixels?
#2405 [16:47] <g> lol
#2406 [16:47] <g> I guess so
#2407 [16:48] <bread> nomnomnom pixels
#2408 [16:48] <geo929> pixel format not accerlated
#2409 [16:48] <g> Oh
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#2411 [16:48] <g> Graphics drivers
#2412 [16:48] <geo929> thats what it said
#2413 [16:48] <g> well
#2414 [16:48] <g> Hardware accelleration is turned off
#2415 [16:48] <geo929> how to turn it on?
#2416 [16:48] <g> Which means..
#2417 [16:48] <g> Either you don't have your graphics drivers installed
#2418 [16:49] <g> or you disabled accelleration
#2419 [16:49] <geo929> .......
#2420 [16:49] <geo929> i have them installed but idk how to disable them
#2421 [16:49] <NotiCon> dont disable them, enable them
#2422 [16:49] <g> It should have come with some configuration utility
#2423 [16:49] <g> so check that out
#2424 [16:50] <geo929> idk how to enable them ether
#2425 [16:52] <bread> mooobit
#2426 [16:52] <g> :P
#2427 [16:56] <NotiCon> anyhow those powered rails
#2428 [16:57] <NotiCon> how do they work? and can you make them only work one way?
#2429 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> what about them?
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#2438 [17:21] <i81u812> Quick question
#2439 [17:21] <bread> ?? ask
#2440 [17:21] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2441 [17:21] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2442 [17:21] <i81u812> If I add items to a chestcart does it have more momentium sorry if thats spelled wrong?
#2443 [17:22] <i81u812> adimentium....
#2444 [17:23] <i81u812> you know because carts are much slower without me in them and the chestcart isint making the gaps for the power tracks
#2445 [17:23] <i81u812> or powered rails
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#2450 [17:42] <g> lol
#2451 [17:42] <g> @humble: Aubrey Serr made some awesome art celebrating @notch and @garrynewman's Humble Bundle generosity: http://j.mp/ffyoYj
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#2453 [17:47] <Hymie> hi -- I just downloaded the jar installer for minecraft, and under Linux it seems to be hgaving ssl problems when connevfting to minecraft.net
#2454 [17:47] <Hymie> any quick fix, so I can download the game?
#2455 [17:49] <Hymie> hmm.. I guess everyone is busy playing.. but me! ;P
#2456 [17:49] <g> Why don't you give us the correct error?
#2457 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, ssl problems? Could you be more specific?
#2458 [17:49] <g> Minecraft.net doesn't use ssl, does it?
#2459 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> It does
#2460 [17:49] <Mousey> it does for the client logins
#2461 [17:49] <Hymie> well, without looking at the console when I launch it, it simply says "Can't connect to minecracct.n..." when I try to login
#2462 [17:49] <Mousey> Minecraft.jar doesn't, but minecraft.jar does
#2463 [17:49] <Hymie> when I look at the console, there are a ton of ssl errors at the same time -- I can pastebin them
#2464 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Please do
#2465 [17:49] <g> Do that.
#2466 [17:50] <Mousey> go go go!
#2467 [17:50] <Hymie> sec
#2468 [17:50] <Hymie> http://pastebin.com/7EHKF7Ac
#2469 [17:51] <Hymie> actually
#2470 [17:51] <Hymie> hold
#2471 [17:51] <Hymie> let me do it fron scratch
#2472 [17:51] <Hymie> so there'll be only one attempt
#2473 [17:51] <g> java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
#2474 [17:51] <g> hmm
#2475 [17:52] <Hymie> http://pastebin.com/66cT3NUG
#2476 [17:52] <Hymie> sorry, there
#2477 [17:52] <Hymie> yes, seems the same
#2478 [17:52] <Hymie> definitely have my user/pass in there
#2479 [17:53] <g> the SSL handshake is failing
#2480 [17:53] <g> Tell me, can you load https://minecraf.net ?
#2481 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Yeah...
#2482 [17:53] <g> minecraft*
#2483 [17:53] <g> https://www.minecraftnet
#2484 [17:53] <g> gah
#2485 [17:53] <g> you know what I mean
#2486 [17:53] <Hymie> yeah, and yeah
#2487 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? linux/hosts
#2488 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> erm
#2489 [17:54] <g> ?? index
#2490 [17:54] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#2491 [17:54] <Hymie> no, it's not a host issue, firewall, etc.. I can connect via firefox
#2492 [17:54] <g> There's only a win/hosts
#2493 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> I know there's an /etc/hosts/ file in nix
#2494 [17:55] <g> ??> g linux/dontdothis
#2495 [17:55] <VoxelHead> g: (linux/dontdothis) :():{:&:};:
#2496 [17:55] <g> lol
#2497 [17:55] <Hymie> sure, why would I need it in thsi case? normal dns should be fine
#2498 [17:55] <g> oh right
#2499 [17:55] <g> ?? linux/dns
#2500 [17:55] <VoxelHead> linux/dns: To clear the local DNS cache under most Linux distributions, you should restart the networking service
#2501 [17:55] <VoxelHead> linux/dns: Under Debian and Debian-based system (Ubuntu, Mint) you can accomplish this with "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart". Note that this might disconnect you from IRC
#2502 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Could you cat /etc/hosts and pastebin it
#2503 [17:55] <Hymie> it isn't my hosts file
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#2505 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Okay then.
#2506 [17:56] <Hymie> there's just localhost and a few other local hosts in there
#2507 [17:56] <Hymie> nothing about minecraft
#2508 [17:56] <Hymie> is there any way to just get the game's jar, on some page after you've paid?
#2509 [17:57] <Hymie> why is this installer needed?
#2510 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Checks for updates after authenticating via SSL
#2511 [17:57] <Hymie> just curious what it does...
#2512 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Does updates when needed
#2513 [17:57] <Hymie> I read somewhere that older jars (before https auth) worked fine, I see a few others having this issue
#2514 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Sure, if you don't care that your password is sent via plaintext
#2515 [17:58] <Hymie> at this stage -- no
#2516 [17:58] <Hymie> any official place I can get that installer?
#2517 [17:58] <Hymie> I've googled here and there quite a bit, but I really don't want a copy of it from a random site, if you see what I mean
#2518 [17:59] <Hymie> there could be evil people involved -- evil!
#2519 [18:00] <Hymie> does anyone know what sort of error is presented if you have an account, but haven't bought yet?
#2520 [18:00] <Hymie> would it be this obscure of an error?
#2521 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> It would let you log in, but be "not premium"
#2522 [18:00] <Hymie> ok
#2523 [18:00] <Hymie> so it's not that
#2524 [18:00] <Hymie> I wanted to make sure it worked before paying -- looks like it was a good idea for a beta ;)
#2525 [18:01] <Hymie> hmm, so I guess I'm probably minecraftless
#2526 [18:01] <Hymie> doh
#2527 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Sec..
#2528 [18:01] <Hymie> k
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#2530 [18:02] <Hymie> hmm.. this is on debian lenny, I have a laptop with debian squeeze
#2531 [18:02] * Hymie tries
#2531 [18:03] <Polisch> Mooin Wer Deutsches hier der mir helft kann? vll die selben wie letzte woche? x)
#2532 [18:03] <Hymie> woha
#2533 [18:04] <Hymie> that worked, says user not premium
#2534 [18:04] <Hymie> wtf is wrong with lenny's jar
#2535 [18:04] <Hymie> #$@#$()#
#2536 [18:04] <McPlusPlus> [x10news] All Paid Services Maintenance & Upgrades (Anonymous) - Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:55:00 EDT
#2537 [18:04] <Hymie> er, java
#2538 [18:04] <bread> oh no
#2539 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Erm..
#2540 [18:04] <bread> I don't speak German
#2541 [18:04] <bread> well, not enough to understand that
#2542 [18:04] <Hymie> ok, I'll pay and try to get a download
#2543 [18:04] <bread> lol
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#2545 [18:04] <bread> wugwugwugwug
#2546 [18:05] <Polisch> oh ... thats bad my englisch is very bad my teacher says :D
#2547 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> We can understand you now
#2548 [18:05] <bread> my German is probably worse than your English!
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#2550 [18:06] <Polisch> x) so i try it... i have big problems to connect to a server.... when i do this the graphics dont load till end and my internet complytlie dont work so i have to start my pc new
#2551 [18:06] <Polisch> i litle bit to understand x)
#2552 [18:06] <Polisch> ?
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#2554 [18:07] <pagan0ne> in vanilla server 1.5 (it also seemed to effect 1.4 as well) is there anything that can cause non-ops to be unable to break blocks? as op i can break block and get drop, as non-op i break block, and it just reappears
#2555 [18:07] <pagan0ne> trying the same block as op and non-op
#2556 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, spawn protection
#2557 [18:07] <pagan0ne> ahh
#2558 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> blocks around spawn are protected
#2559 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> ??> pagan0ne smp/opyourself
#2560 [18:07] <VoxelHead> pagan0ne: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#2561 [18:07] <VoxelHead> pagan0ne: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#2562 [18:07] <It> this seems more like one of those network cards that has those issues
#2563 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Bwah? No..
#2564 [18:08] <It> for polisch anyway
#2565 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Oh, um, possibly
#2566 [18:08] <Hymie> GreyVulpine: hmm.. well, it looks like debian lenny 64bit didn't work, whereas squeeze does -- so, if othger debian dudes (or perhaps ubuntu dudes) come here with that issue, you might mention that a debian guy had to have the newest release for it to work, othetwise java could't authenticate via ssl properly
#2567 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> hymie, try this:
#2568 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/ipv6
#2569 [18:08] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#2570 [18:08] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#2571 [18:08] <pagan0ne> ty DopeGhoti VoxelHead and GreyVulpine...
#2572 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Good to know Hymie, if you have time, could you write up a report for..
#2573 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#2574 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> That way, other people can search and get your findings as well
#2575 [18:09] <pagan0ne> GreyVulpine, is that ALL spawn-protection does? if i disable spawn-protection, it wont have any other effects?
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#2577 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> pagan0ne - Yes
#2578 [18:09] <Polisch> Jeah "it" but I play alot of other games and i never had this Problem before... when i delete the .Bin ordner it work a while and then my Internet crash again
#2579 [18:09] <pagan0ne> GreyVulpine, ty!
#2580 [18:09] <Hymie> VoxelHead: I will try that in a few secs, the client is authed on thge other box right now
#2581 [18:09] <Hymie> and downloadning things
#2582 [18:09] <Hymie> GreyVulpine: looking
#2583 [18:09] <Kaimaxmunte> So I've been having a problem with Multiplayer for a while now.
#2584 [18:10] <Kaimaxmunte> I've tried everything, but nothing seems to work.
#2585 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Kaimaxmunte - Elaborate?
#2586 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#2587 [18:10] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2588 [18:10] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2589 [18:10] <Kaimaxmunte> I've been getting a java error which gives me a socket write error.
#2590 [18:10] <Kaimaxmunte> It's really starting to anger me.
#2591 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Look into updating your java, as well as your network card's drivers
#2592 [18:11] <It> for the record, voxelhead is a bot
#2593 [18:11] <Kaimaxmunte> Already done both.
#2594 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> again, please pastebin the full and exact error message
#2595 [18:12] <Kaimaxmunte> Mkay.
#2596 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - Just a socket write error
#2597 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> "some socket error" is not that helpful
#2598 [18:12] <Polisch> so i see nobody can help ma x) ty guys maybe i came in a hour or so back :)
#2599 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> It's pretty common, for most, nothing you can really do
#2600 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> It has to do with minecraft's netcode, and certain NICs' transmit buffers barfing.
#2601 [18:13] <Kaimaxmunte> Kaimaxmunte lost connection: Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write error
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#2603 [18:13] <It> does this happen on every server or just one
#2604 [18:14] <Kaimaxmunte> Every server.
#2605 [18:14] <Hymie> VoxelHead: no go with those switches :/
#2606 [18:14] <It> that looks like the errors you get if ports on the server are not forwarded cottectly
#2607 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> hyadarn
#2608 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> er
#2609 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> Hymie: darn
#2610 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Wug, socket write errors?
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#2612 [18:14] <It> well, socket errors of other sorts
#2613 [18:14] <Hymie> DopeGhoti: I'm ok on my squeeze box, so it works on a different version of java
#2614 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> It's usually NICs not being up to snuff with MC's buggy netcode
#2615 [18:15] <Hymie> oh crtap, lenny has java 5 and 6
#2616 [18:15] * Hymie checks something
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#2617 [18:15] <Kaimaxmunte> I'll check to see if there are any new updates since last month to my Network card.
#2618 [18:16] <Hymie> heh
#2619 [18:16] <Hymie> both javas report the same -version string ;P
#2620 [18:16] <Hymie> arg ;)
#2621 [18:16] <Hymie> ok, anyhow
#2622 [18:17] <Hymie> thanks guys, I'll screw with this later, going to play on the laptop
#2623 [18:17] <Hymie> GreyVulpine: sec
#2624 [18:17] <It> lol
#2625 [18:17] <Hymie> GreyVulpine: arg, it wants an account, bah
#2626 [18:18] <Hymie> ok, anyhow, gone
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#2629 [18:18] <Hymie> thanks btw ;)
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#2632 [18:41] <Aconitin> hey, is there a mod (no plugin) that allows players to perform some commands like /give, /list n stuff?
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#2634 [18:41] <aetherian> in multiplayer?
#2635 [18:41] <aetherian> it'd have to be a plugin
#2636 [18:41] <aetherian> just think about it.
#2637 [18:42] <Aconitin> i have no idea what the difference between plugin and mod is, actually. i just know that i cant use plugins cause of my server provider =/
#2638 [18:42] <aetherian> then no.
#2639 [18:42] <Aconitin> mhm.
#2640 [18:42] <stallmer> So, are we able to change out username? I looked online, and as of September we weren't. Is that still the case?
#2641 [18:42] <aetherian> I would suggest you change server providers.
#2642 [18:43] <aetherian> stallmer: correct.
#2643 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> stallmer - That's still the case unfortunately
#2644 [18:43] <aetherian> no name changes
#2645 [18:43] <stallmer> ok thanks!
#2646 [18:43] <Aconitin> so, what provider would you suggest?
#2647 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Mojang, from my last email with them, tells me they're still looking into it
#2648 [18:43] <Aconitin> im at 4players atm
#2649 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> How much money are you willing to spend?
#2650 [18:43] <stallmer> cool, it'd be nice, but not something critical
#2651 [18:43] <Aconitin> like...10 euro per month for 6 slots
#2652 [18:44] <Aconitin> or sth
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#2655 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Aconitin - I would recommend multiplay then
#2656 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/game-servers/mc-minecraft/
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#2659 [18:48] <AlecTBM> Hello, Is right that spurce trees don't grow trough leaves?
#2660 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Trees in general, need vertical clearance to grow
#2661 [18:49] <Aconitin> GreyVulpine - Thanks =)
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#2664 [18:49] <Aconitin> AlecTBm - They have to have 6 blocks of air directly above the sapling
#2665 [18:50] <Aconitin> and a certain light lvl
#2666 [18:50] <AlecTBM> According to the wiki on trees: Growing trees are not blocked by leaf blocks.
#2667 [18:50] <AlecTBM> is this outdated?
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#2669 [18:51] <Aconitin> mhm, test it out. they need air blocks afaik but maybe im wrong
#2670 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. I don't know
#2671 [18:51] <AlecTBM> I have a big treefarm sith normal trees
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#2674 [18:51] <AlecTBM> and after the 1.5 update i got alot of spurce saplings
#2675 [18:52] <AlecTBM> and since the spurce trees don't make branches I was thinking it was better to use in the treefarm
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#2677 [18:53] <Aconitin> just wondering - did the spawning algorithm change in 1.5? my mob-trap goes crazy somehow
#2678 [18:53] <_303> not that I know of
#2679 [18:53] <DreadLindwyrm> It seems a lot more clustered.
#2680 [18:53] * VoxelHead is back
#2680 [18:54] <Vector> Voxel, give my friend _0303 here some root beer, my compliments
#2681 [18:54] * VoxelHead gives my friend _0303 here some root beer, my compliments
#2681 [18:54] <Vector> lmao
#2682 [18:54] <Vector> Voxel, are you smart?
#2683 [18:54] <VoxelHead> i was feeling horny
#2684 [18:54] <Vector> horny for what?
#2685 [18:55] <gPad2002> DopeGhoti: For crying out loud
#2686 [18:55] <gPad2002> Clean that thing's dictionary
#2687 [18:55] <AlecTBM> hahaha
#2688 [18:55] <VoxelHead> Time for another amazing plan from me... VoxelHead!
#2689 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Dope's cleaned out a few, these are PG compared to what Vox had before.
#2690 [18:56] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Vox, shut up :P
#2691 [18:57] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#2691 [18:57] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#2692 [18:57] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Vox, eat chocolate instead of sulking.
#2693 [18:57] <_303> Vox, unsulk
#2694 [18:58] * aetherian gives VoxelHead some chocolate
#2694 [18:58] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: Why the hell does he have an AI bot in here anyway?
#2695 [18:58] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Vox, re-sulk.
#2696 [18:58] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2696 [18:58] <gPad2002> My markov-chainer is worse though
#2697 [18:59] <AlecTBM> looks like trees can't grow trough leaves anymore :(
#2698 [18:59] <gPad2002> Giant rainbow derp lines
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#2700 [19:03] <AlecTBM> no, normal trees grows
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#2703 [19:06] <aetherian> vox, cloak
#2704 [19:06] <VoxelHead> Already running cloaked, sir
#2705 [19:06] <aetherian> o\
#2706 [19:06] <DreadLindwyrm> How far do spruces spread?
#2707 [19:07] <AlecTBM> sideways?
#2708 [19:07] <DreadLindwyrm> yep
#2709 [19:07] <AlecTBM> most I have seen is 3
#2710 [19:07] <DreadLindwyrm> So I'm looking at spacing them at about 7 apart so they don't interfere with each other?
#2711 [19:08] <AlecTBM> yes
#2712 [19:08] <Aconitin> you could make a 1*1*7 hole and put a sapling at the bottom of it and it would grow =D
#2713 [19:08] <Aconitin> and you wouldnt get any leaves
#2714 [19:08] <AlecTBM> that is not an very good treefarm
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#2717 [19:08] <AlecTBM> no leaves?
#2718 [19:08] <DreadLindwyrm> I thought they failed to grow at that point?
#2719 [19:08] <Aconitin> it is, if you have saplings
#2720 [19:08] <thig> jhches
#2721 [19:08] <AlecTBM> i have saplings
#2722 [19:08] <AlecTBM> can test
#2723 [19:09] <Aconitin> i got that treefarm, its highly efficient cause you only get wood, no leaves
#2724 [19:09] <VoxelHead> doo dee doo dedo deee do
#2725 [19:09] <thig> aeterian,do you want hte mod the aether
#2726 [19:09] <Aconitin> and thats the problem of the farm..you will run out of saplings xD
#2727 [19:09] <thig> *aetherian
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#2729 [19:10] <thig> . seen jhches
#2730 [19:10] <aetherian> wat
#2731 [19:10] <gPad2002> http://nyan.cat/
#2732 [19:10] <gPad2002> Win
#2733 [19:10] <DreadLindwyrm> Aconitin - you need to get at least one sapling back per tree or your farm is rubbish
#2734 [19:10] <thig> do you want the mod aether?
#2735 [19:10] <AlecTBM> saplings are not the problem here
#2736 [19:11] <Aconitin> i know thats the problem of the 1*1*7 stuff
#2737 [19:11] <AlecTBM> I plants some trees outside
#2738 [19:11] <AlecTBM> 1*1*7 did not work here
#2739 [19:11] <AlecTBM> used bonemeal
#2740 [19:11] <AlecTBM> nothing happend
#2741 [19:11] <thig> how come the .seen thing doesnt work?
#2742 [19:11] <Aconitin> works for me
#2743 [19:11] <DreadLindwyrm> You put a space in it?
#2744 [19:11] <thig> ya
#2745 [19:12] <_303> .seen thig
#2746 [19:12] <thig> wait
#2747 [19:12] <Aconitin> maybe it needs light, put a torch next to it
#2748 [19:12] <_303> crow is not here
#2749 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Try a !seen
#2750 [19:12] <thig> hey _303
#2751 [19:12] <AlecTBM> tourch is okey
#2752 [19:12] <AlecTBM> torch*
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#2754 [19:12] <thig> .senn jhches
#2755 [19:12] <Aconitin> like 1*2*7 with 1 sapling and a torch
#2756 [19:12] <thig> .seen jhches
#2757 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> There's no bots here that respond to .seen
#2758 [19:13] <thig> !seen jhches
#2759 [19:13] <GreyBot> I last saw jhches (~Mibbit@D-128-208-115-48.dhcp4.washington.edu) 16hrs 17mins 48secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client
#2760 [19:13] <AlecTBM> but normal trees worked
#2761 [19:13] <bread> what channels does GreyBot observe? :o
#2762 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Just this one
#2763 [19:13] <thig> bread loves vox
#2764 [19:13] <bread> ...
#2765 [19:14] <thig> vox loves bread
#2766 [19:14] <thig> how much do you like bread vox?"i little too much"
#2767 [19:14] <gPad2002> VoxelHead: Give bread some butter
#2768 [19:14] * VoxelHead gives bread some butter
#2768 [19:14] <bread> >:|
#2769 [19:15] <bread> too many hilights
#2770 [19:15] <thig> lol
#2771 [19:15] <Aconitin> mhm
#2772 [19:15] <gPad2002> :P
#2773 [19:15] <thig> your grandma boroke my maple bar
#2774 [19:15] <AlecTBM> hmm
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#2776 [19:16] <AlecTBM> I tried something with the spurce trees
#2777 [19:16] <thig> do the stars mean that they are bots?
#2778 [19:16] <AlecTBM> grouped 8 saplings around and torch with no heigh limit
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#2780 [19:16] <AlecTBM> one was fully growned
#2781 [19:16] <AlecTBM> remove all leaves
#2782 [19:17] <Aconitin> use some bone meal now
#2783 [19:17] <AlecTBM> but still none of the others growed
#2784 [19:17] <AlecTBM> I did use
#2785 [19:17] <Aconitin> mhm
#2786 [19:17] <Aconitin> use MUCh bone meal
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#2788 [19:18] <thig> bored
#2789 [19:18] <AlecTBM> haha
#2790 [19:18] <thig> haha
#2791 [19:18] <AlecTBM> a treefarm that I need to use 64 bonemeal on each sapling
#2792 [19:18] <AlecTBM> sounds good :D
#2793 [19:19] <thig> lol
#2794 [19:19] <thig> too bad for you
#2795 [19:19] <Aconitin> would be no problem for me, i got sh*tloads of bones cause of my mob trap xD
#2796 [19:19] <thig> xd?
#2797 [19:19] <[E]MARANTz> How can i get my password back for the "registration" thingy to talk in Minecraft? :)
#2798 [19:19] <AlecTBM> hehe
#2799 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> [E]MARANTz: /msg nickserv help; follow directions
#2800 [19:20] <thig> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.bored
#2801 [19:20] <AlecTBM> yeah, but my cactus farm is good :)
#2802 [19:20] <AlecTBM> and wheat farm
#2803 [19:20] <Maulmauk> ./msg nickserv register password email
#2804 [19:21] <thig> bye bye now
#2805 [19:21] <AlecTBM> bye
#2806 [19:21] <Aconitin> cya
#2807 [19:22] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go =O.
#2808 [19:23] <AlecTBM> another question, pumpkins, where do I find them?
#2809 [19:23] <Aconitin> hehe
#2810 [19:23] <Aconitin> u need to have luck
#2811 [19:24] <AlecTBM> hmm, okey
#2812 [19:24] <Aconitin> and u cant find em in deserts ;)
#2813 [19:24] <AlecTBM> sugar plants was near water, right?
#2814 [19:24] <AlecTBM> hehe
#2815 [19:24] <Aconitin> ya
#2816 [19:24] <Aconitin> on a dirt/grass block near water
#2817 [19:25] <Aconitin> im bored, ask me more xD
#2818 [19:25] <AlecTBM> wth, 4 block cactus?
#2819 [19:25] <Aconitin> ye bug
#2820 [19:25] <AlecTBM> not made by me
#2821 [19:25] <AlecTBM> okey
#2822 [19:25] <Aconitin> happens to sugar canes,too
#2823 [19:25] <Aconitin> sometimes
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#2825 [19:26] <AlecTBM> okey
#2826 [19:26] <Shade1990> hi
#2827 [19:26] <Aconitin> hi
#2828 [19:26] <Shade1990> can you help me ?
#2829 [19:26] <AlecTBM> planing to make a sugar farm
#2830 [19:26] <Aconitin> ask^^
#2831 [19:26] <Shade1990> what i have to do to start my own server for multiplayer lode?
#2832 [19:26] <Shade1990> mode*
#2833 [19:27] <Aconitin> u need the software, of course,
#2834 [19:27] <Aconitin> this can be found at minecraft.net
#2835 [19:27] <Aconitin> wait a sec...
#2836 [19:27] <Aconitin> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2837 [19:27] <Aconitin> here
#2838 [19:27] <Aconitin> you need the minecraft_server.exe
#2839 [19:28] <Aconitin> do you want to play online or in LAN?
#2840 [19:28] <AlecTBM> yay, found sugar
#2841 [19:29] <Aconitin> lol you just need 1 cane to quickly get thousands^^
#2842 [19:29] <AlecTBM> yah, I found 6 now
#2843 [19:30] <AlecTBM> soo now I am starting to plant
#2844 [19:30] <Shade1990> online i think we play over hamtchi
#2845 [19:30] <Aconitin> okay, good, then you might either need to forward port tcp/udp 25565 or you play over port 80
#2846 [19:30] <Aconitin> know how to portforward?
#2847 [19:30] <Shade1990> no sry
#2848 [19:31] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
#2849 [19:31] <Aconitin> then id recommend 80 for a start
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#2851 [19:31] <Aconitin> got the minecraft_server.exe?
#2852 [19:31] <AkiTensai> I opened a world after today's patch to 1.5_01 and was dead. Should I be worried about opening up the rest of my single player worlds?
#2853 [19:31] <Aconitin> make a backup, then open em
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#2855 [19:33] <Aconitin> Shade1990 - got the minecraft_server.exe file?
#2856 [19:34] <AkiTensai> Aconitin: ^.^ Why can't I think of these cool things. Thanks.
#2857 [19:35] <Aconitin> xD
#2858 [19:35] <AlecTBM> Can you grow pumpkins?
#2859 [19:35] <Aconitin> no
#2860 [19:36] <AlecTBM> :(
#2861 [19:36] <VoxelHead> Cheer up AlecTBM
#2862 [19:36] <VoxelHead> *hugs*
#2863 [19:37] <AkiTensai> >D My number of deaths counter didn't increase. I haven't "died" yet.
#2864 [19:37] <Aconitin> me too xD
#2865 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> I think that the death counter is incremented by the act of dying, so if you're already dead, it doesn't count. Literally.
#2866 [19:37] <Aconitin> ah je pumpkins actually grow with /give <urname> 86
#2867 [19:38] <AlecTBM> hehe
#2868 [19:38] <AlecTBM> true
#2869 [19:38] <AkiTensai> Which would suggest that I was died during the "Simulate the world for a bit" time, which doesn't count stats.
#2870 [19:38] <AlecTBM> nice when you are far from "home" and needs something
#2871 [19:39] <Aconitin> yeh, true
#2872 [19:39] <Aconitin> argh i just cant wait for flans planes 1.5 to be released
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#2874 [19:41] <thig> ok,i reinstalled my graphics card and when i pay minecraft,it freezes then restarts.ant ideas?
#2875 [19:41] <Aconitin> yeh
#2876 [19:41] <thig> what?
#2877 [19:42] <Aconitin> press the windows-key (the one between ctrl and alt) + r
#2878 [19:42] <Aconitin> some windows should open
#2879 [19:42] <thig> k
#2880 [19:42] <thig> only the run window
#2881 [19:42] <Aconitin> enter %appdata%/.minecraft
#2882 [19:42] <Aconitin> and delete the /bin folder in there
#2883 [19:42] <Aconitin> that might help
#2884 [19:42] <thig> i already tried that
#2885 [19:42] <Aconitin> damn
#2886 [19:43] <Aconitin> when exactly does the game freze?
#2887 [19:43] <thig> im going to attempt it though
#2888 [19:43] <thig> when i get to the title screen
#2889 [19:43] <Aconitin> like, after logging in
#2890 [19:43] <thig> ya
#2891 [19:43] <thig> sinleplayer multiplayer
#2892 [19:43] <Aconitin> mhm..got texture packs?
#2893 [19:44] <thig> no textures
#2894 [19:44] <Aconitin> mhm..try to get the minecraft.jar instead of the .exe
#2895 [19:44] <thig> but that vwont run will it?
#2896 [19:44] <Aconitin> sure it will
#2897 [19:44] <Vector> the .jar file not stand-alone
#2898 [19:44] <thig> whos name is it?
#2899 [19:45] <Shade1990> i have download it and now?
#2900 [19:45] <thig> stupid name
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#2902 [19:45] <Aconitin> the.jar is stand-alone lol
#2903 [19:45] <thig> hang on,i just deleted my bin file so i have to play it again
#2904 [19:45] <Aconitin> sure
#2905 [19:45] <Shade1990> Aconitin?
#2906 [19:46] <Shade1990> what i have to do now?
#2907 [19:46] <Aconitin> Shade1990: start the exe, let it load, and when its finished, close the window
#2908 [19:46] <thig> bye because after that it restarts
#2909 [19:46] <Aconitin> Shade: you should get some other files around the exe then
#2910 [19:47] <thig> nevermind,i exited out minecraft right when it got to the title screen
#2911 [19:47] <Shade1990> what i should get ?
#2912 [19:47] <Shade1990> sry my english is bad i am german lol
#2913 [19:47] <Aconitin> hold on
#2914 [19:47] <thig> cool
#2915 [19:47] <AlecTBM> Aconitin: flans plan?
#2916 [19:47] <thig> i like german people
#2917 [19:47] <Aconitin> ya xD
#2918 [19:48] <AlecTBM> whats that?
#2919 [19:48] <Aconitin> Shade ill query you
#2920 [19:48] <Aconitin> planes for minecraft
#2921 [19:48] <thig> aconithin
#2922 [19:48] <Aconitin> ye
#2923 [19:48] <thig> mineraft.jar wont run
#2924 [19:48] <Aconitin> thig, query
#2925 [19:48] <thig> only minecraft.exe
#2926 [19:49] <thig> ok
#2927 [19:52] <Shade1990> it runss and runs and wont be quit
#2928 [19:52] <Aconitin> lol what does it say
#2929 [19:54] <Shade1990> i cant read it it blink up and down
#2930 [19:54] <Aconitin> got windows 7?
#2931 [19:55] <Shade1990> yes
#2932 [19:55] <Aconitin> k press strg+shift+esc, go to processes nd kill javaw.exe xD
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#2934 [19:56] <Shade1990> ok i done it
#2935 [19:56] <thid> pm me
#2936 [19:56] <Aconitin> should be gone now
#2937 [19:57] <thid> oops
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#2939 [19:57] <thid> where is the guy i was talking to?
#2940 [19:57] <Aconitin> now, before we proceed, Shade, double-click my name (Aconitin) pls and write something
#2941 [19:57] <Shade1990> then the exe closed
#2942 [19:57] <thid> IM IN IRC
#2943 [19:58] <thid> GIVE ME PM
#2944 [19:58] <Aconitin> obviously.
#2945 [19:58] <thid> not you
#2946 [19:58] <Shade1990> hi
#2947 [19:58] <Aconitin> xD
#2948 [19:58] <Aconitin> Shade, PM me
#2949 [19:58] <Shade1990> hi
#2950 [19:58] <Shade1990> lol dont work
#2951 [19:59] <Aconitin> mhm right click my name, DDC-> chat
#2952 [19:59] <thid> IM IN IRC DUDE PLEASE NOTICE ME
#2953 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Hey, I have a question for folks running 1.5 servers.. do any of you see anything resembling '[Lmp;@1bf52a5' on your logs at server startup?
#2954 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> thid: please stop shouting.
#2955 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> the acoustics in here are fantastic.
#2956 [19:59] <thid> im trying to get someones attention
#2957 [20:00] <Aconitin> type louder
#2958 [20:00] <thid> who is not on irc
#2959 [20:00] <AlecTBM> whait, wut??? Water is running up??
#2960 [20:00] <thid> he is in a pm
#2961 [20:00] <thid> do you guys remember him?
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#2963 [20:01] <Aconitin> what?
#2964 [20:01] <thid> the guy who pmed me
#2965 [20:02] <Aconitin> pmd you about what
#2966 [20:02] <thid> IM IN IRC
#2967 [20:02] <thid> IM IN IRC
#2968 [20:02] <thid> IM IN IRC
#2969 [20:02] <bread> ...
#2970 [20:02] <thid> not you
#2971 [20:02] <VoxelHead> not you... nou
#2972 [20:02] <thid> tell him aconitin
#2973 [20:03] <Aconitin> tell whom what?
#2974 [20:03] <thid> bread why im typing this
#2975 [20:03] <thid> IM IN IRC
#2976 [20:03] <thid> IM IN IRC
#2977 [20:03] <thid> IM IN IRC
#2978 [20:03] <Aconitin> nah ill rather lean back and watch you for my personal amusement
#2979 [20:03] <thid> IM IN IRC
#2980 [20:03] <bread> Kindly stop spamming
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#2984 [20:04] <thid> IM TRYING TO GET SOMEONES ATTENTION
#2985 [20:04] <Thimerit> Hey all!
#2986 [20:04] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2987 [20:04] <thid> sorry caps
#2988 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> thid: Stop. Just stop.
#2989 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> Thimerit: hiya
#2990 [20:04] <Thimerit> I think I found a bug with the double doors...?
#2991 [20:04] <Thimerit> It's really strange..
#2992 [20:04] <thid> im trying to get someones attenyion
#2993 [20:04] <Davis> I'm on a mac and whenever i double click minecraft it opens up and imidiatly closes again
#2994 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> Thimerit specific
#2995 [20:04] <VoxelHead> Thimerit: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2996 [20:04] <VoxelHead> Thimerit: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2997 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> Davis mac/permissions
#2998 [20:05] <VoxelHead> Davis: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2999 [20:05] <VoxelHead> Davis: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#3000 [20:05] <Thimerit> I was looking on the internet for a "bug" or "glitch" with the double doors. It seems that, in my enclosed house with a double door, mobs get to me while I'm sleeping? It's really strange. If I'm awake, they only are jumping at the door and nothing happens, but when I want to sleep... Oh, I even walled off my door and then I got through the night peaceful
#3001 [20:05] <thid> PM ME,DUDE PM ME
#3002 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> Thimerit: is your bed next to a wall?
#3003 [20:05] <Thimerit> Ye it is
#3004 [20:05] <Thimerit> only the side of it
#3005 [20:05] <Maulmauk> check the other side of the wall :)
#3006 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> Thimerit: there's the problem (:
#3007 [20:05] <Thimerit> Well, the wall is wood
#3008 [20:05] <Thimerit> and the other side is dirt
#3009 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> irrelevant.
#3010 [20:05] <VoxelHead> yay! brains!
#3011 [20:05] <thid> THE GUY WHO PMED ME IM IN HERE
#3012 [20:06] <Maulmauk> great thid. that's great.
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#3014 [20:06] <Thimerit> Oh, I get it, they pass through the walls?
#3015 [20:06] <thid> IM TOO TIRED TO EXPLAIN THINGS RIGHT NOW
#3016 [20:06] <thid> oops caps
#3017 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> Let me explain this slowly and clearly.
#3018 [20:06] <Maulmauk> diamonds for Ghoti.
#3019 [20:07] <Thimerit> You have my attention, heh
#3020 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> Jumping around, shouting and flapping your arms will do nothing other than annoy everyone in the channel, probably including the person whom you are trying to reach.
#3021 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> If you see them, message them once, privately, with a /query or /msg. And then wait.
#3022 [20:08] <thid> can italk?
#3023 [20:08] <thid> yay
#3024 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Thimerit: Yes, they seem to not care about adjacent walls when you're sleeping.
#3025 [20:08] <Thimerit> Ahw, that's a bug then
#3026 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#3027 [20:09] <Thimerit> Ahh, well, thanks anyway! I'll get further explorer
#3028 [20:09] <Thimerit> exploring*
#3029 [20:09] <thid> thig shivers when he looks at dopeghoti
#3030 [20:09] <thid> thid
#3031 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> Thimerit: good luck!
#3032 [20:09] <Thimerit> Thanks DopeGhoti :D
#3033 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> \o
#3034 [20:09] <Maulmauk> mob systems suck :/
#3035 [20:09] <VoxelHead> Systems is a pile of twat.
#3036 [20:09] <Maulmauk> mine doesn'tseem to spawn very often. pah.
#3037 [20:10] <thid> my help went away
#3038 [20:10] <thid> all because i acidentally pressed the back button
#3039 [20:11] <thid> actually backspace
#3040 [20:11] <Aconitin> help about what
#3041 [20:11] <Maulmauk> that's great.
#3042 [20:12] <thig> now whos gonna help me?
#3043 [20:12] <Aconitin> me
#3044 [20:12] <Maulmauk> not i.
#3045 [20:12] <thig> okay
#3046 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> thig: if this is the same problem you had yesterday and the day before, and you still have not upgraded your video card, there is nothing that can be done.
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#3048 [20:13] <thig> after i reinstalled my graphics card,minecraft restarts
#3049 [20:13] <thig> instead of 4bit like yesterday dopeghoti
#3050 [20:13] <Maulmauk> you're trying to run minecraft while doing a driver change on video drivers?
#3051 [20:13] <Maulmauk> that's pretty boss.
#3052 [20:14] <thig> im boss
#3053 [20:14] <thig> cool
#3054 [20:14] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE boss? feel these nipples!
#3055 [20:14] <thig> youve already said that
#3056 [20:14] <thig> before
#3057 [20:14] <Aconitin> thig - did the .jar work btw.?
#3058 [20:14] <thig> aconitin?
#3059 [20:14] <thig> no
#3060 [20:15] <Aconitin> darn xD
#3061 [20:15] <thig> well it wouldnt run
#3062 [20:15] <Aconitin> ...
#3063 [20:15] <minecrafter893> hey, so uh, do i just jump in and start whining about my problem or is there a line for whiners here?
#3064 [20:15] <thig> i think i need to do some control thing then put minecraft.jar in a sepret folder
#3065 [20:15] <Thimerit> I died like 5 times in 4 days due to that bug, lmao
#3066 [20:16] <Thimerit> Looked so stupid
#3067 [20:16] <Maulmauk> hehe, thats a fun bug the first time, you're all "oshit!"
#3068 [20:16] <Thimerit> I got really jumpy indeed, lmao
#3069 [20:16] <Thimerit> Then i needed to travel a hell of a road to get back there
#3070 [20:16] <thig> you can whine instantly here
#3071 [20:17] <Thimerit> on a HUGE mountain, hell that was fun
#3072 [20:17] <minecrafter893> instant whining = bonus!
#3073 [20:17] <Thimerit> +1
#3074 [20:17] <thig> aconitin?
#3075 [20:17] <thig> you still helping me?
#3076 [20:17] <minecrafter893> so minecraft worked fine for me for more than a week, installed a new texture pack, worked fine for another few days
#3077 [20:17] <Aconitin> ye, pm me
#3078 [20:17] <minecrafter893> now when i try to log in, it auto closes the window after the logo
#3079 [20:18] <thig> then BAM
#3080 [20:18] <thig> oh
#3081 [20:18] <Thimerit> Try deleting the bin file
#3082 [20:18] <Thimerit> and restart Mc the normal way
#3083 [20:18] <minecrafter893> i've been trying to think about what i did, any changes i made, and i got nothin
#3084 [20:18] <Thimerit> it'll download the files all over
#3085 [20:18] <minecrafter893> i actually did delete the bin file and restarted
#3086 [20:18] <minecrafter893> same issue
#3087 [20:19] <Thimerit> Ahw, that's nasty
#3088 [20:19] <Thimerit> Then I don't know :(
#3089 [20:19] <minecrafter893> i also found another guy on minecraftforum.net with the same problem but no one has answered him yet
#3090 [20:19] <minecrafter893> ah ok
#3091 [20:20] <minecrafter893> maybe i'll try repeating my steps. doing the same thing over again and expecting different results is normal, right? :)
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#3094 [20:23] <lunarblaze> heya
#3095 [20:24] <lunarblaze> im trying to connect to a server, but the list on the website dosnt show any ips..
#3096 [20:24] <Thimerit> Well, the same thing always results in a same result
#3097 [20:24] <Thimerit> if you retrace and undo what you did would work though...
#3098 [20:24] <Thimerit> try cleaning the texture packs
#3099 [20:24] <Thimerit> helped me a few times
#3100 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> mitpatterson: remove the texture pack
#3101 [20:25] <mitpatterson> huh?
#3102 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> sorry
#3103 [20:25] <mitpatterson> lmao
#3104 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> mistab while I was scrolled up
#3105 [20:25] <mitpatterson> k
#3106 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> that was to someone who already left
#3107 [20:25] <lunarblaze> ?
#3108 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> lunarblaze: the list on the web site is for Classic servers, not Survival
#3109 [20:27] <lunarblaze> oh.. well were are the survival servers listed?
#3110 [20:27] <lunarblaze> or if you could just suggest one that would be nice too
#3111 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers
#3112 [20:28] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3113 [20:28] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3114 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> also
#3115 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/servers/specific
#3116 [20:28] <VoxelHead> smp/servers/specific: Kealper would suggest smp.shadow-craft.net. Enjoy!
#3117 [20:29] * Kealper rawrs
#3117 [20:29] * Kealper then does ^
#3117 [20:30] <lunarblaze> i got a bad log in it says..
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#3120 [20:31] <lunarblaze> ok im in now
#3121 [20:31] <lunarblaze> thanks
#3122 [20:31] <lunarblaze> falling........
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#3124 [20:34] <VoxelHead> bye QBeep
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#3126 [20:36] <lunarblaze> everything i break comes back..
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#3133 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> QuantumBeep: Randomly jumping from channel to channel, putting right people whom are wrong, hoping each time, that the next channel will be #home?
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#3136 [21:08] <thig> aconitin pm me
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#3138 [21:11] <umbridge> Hello?
#3139 [21:11] <umbridge> can someone please try to connect 2 my server?
#3140 [21:11] <bread> umbridge: type !check <ip>:<port>
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#3142 [21:12] <umbridge> !check noah247survive.dyndns.org:25510
#3143 [21:12] <bread> \o/
#3144 [21:12] <umbridge> Now can i get a person 2 connect?
#3145 [21:12] <bread> ...
#3146 [21:13] <umbridge> i keep getting errors while running my server like java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 108
#3147 [21:13] <umbridge> or
#3148 [21:13] <umbridge> java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 99
#3149 [21:13] <umbridge> i already checked time sync issue
#3150 [21:14] <umbridge> no one can get on either
#3151 [21:14] <umbridge> they get the same error
#3152 [21:15] <umbridge> hello?
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#3154 [21:15] <umbridge> hello?
#3155 [21:15] <umbridge> HELLO?
#3156 [21:16] <umbridge> Anyone here?
#3157 [21:16] <VoxelHead> nnnk
#3158 [21:16] <Wug> vox, y u talk
#3159 [21:17] <umbridge> help? please?
#3160 [21:17] <Wug> I'll try but I have to go
#3161 [21:17] <Wug> so quickly
#3162 [21:17] <umbridge> im running a bukkit server on 1.4 and im getting errors like java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 99
#3163 [21:17] <umbridge> already looked at time sync issue
#3164 [21:17] <Wug> can't do it, i'm on 1.5
#3165 [21:18] <umbridge> 18:17:56 [SEVERE] java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 111 18:17:56 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.Packet.b(Packet.java:84) 18:17:56 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.NetworkManager.f(NetworkManager.java:130) 18:17:56 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.NetworkManager.c(NetworkManager.java:229) 18:17:56 [SEVERE] at net.minecraft.server.NetworkReaderThread.run
#3166 [21:18] <Wug> does it have something to do with the fact that everyone else has updated to 1.5?
#3167 [21:18] <Wug> and the 1.4 server is outdated and uses a different protocol?
#3168 [21:18] <umbridge> well i think my minecraft_server.jar is for 1.4
#3169 [21:18] <umbridge> i mean 1.5
#3170 [21:18] <bread> That would do it.
#3171 [21:19] <umbridge> but bukkit thinks its 1.4
#3172 [21:19] <Aconitin> its 1.5_02 atm, isnt it?
#3173 [21:19] <umbridge> i cant find a Minecraft_Server.jar for 1.4
#3174 [21:19] <Wug> I get connection lost, end of stream
#3175 [21:19] <Wug> stop using bukkit, its a piece of crap
#3176 [21:19] <umbridge> for my server?
#3177 [21:19] <Wug> yes
#3178 [21:19] <umbridge> i need bukkit it has anti-grief stuff
#3179 [21:20] <Wug> ive never once had a good day if bukkit was involved
#3180 [21:20] <Wug> also
#3181 [21:20] <umbridge> anybody here know where i can find a minecraft_server.jar for 1.4?
#3182 [21:20] <bread> No
#3183 [21:20] <bread> you can't.
#3184 [21:20] <umbridge> its not on minecraft.net anymore
#3185 [21:20] <bread> Exactly.
#3186 [21:21] <bread> And that's the only place it's legal to get it.
#3187 [21:21] <Aconitin> i think i got one for 1.4_01 but its plane-modded
#3188 [21:21] <Wug> why would you want 1.4? everyone has updated, and no one will be able to play on your server
#3189 [21:21] <Wug> anywhoo, go to #bukkit.
#3190 [21:21] <VoxelHead> r doo dee doo dedo deee do.
#3191 [21:21] <umbridge> Because there is no bukkit for 1.5 yet its unstable
#3192 [21:21] <bread> then wait for it to be updated.
#3193 [21:21] <Wug> then use vanilla in the meantime
#3194 [21:21] <umbridge> ok
#3195 [21:21] <bread> or that
#3196 [21:22] <Wug> goodbye.
#3197 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> ??+ mods/update|When the server software has been updated, it is virtually guaranteed to break non-API mods such as bikkit. If your server is crashing, _remove the mods_ as your _first_ troubleshooting step.
#3198 [21:22] <Wug> goodbye.
#3199 [21:22] <bread> :<
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#3201 [21:23] <thig> aconitin
#3202 [21:23] <thig> pm me
#3203 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> Message him your damn self; stop spamming #minecrafthelp with your pleas for attention.
#3204 [21:24] <thig> i dont know how
#3205 [21:24] <DopeGhoti> "/msg person message goes here"
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#3208 [21:25] <rumpler> hey
#3209 [21:25] <rumpler> is anyone here online?
#3210 [21:26] <umbridge> just downloaded a Minecraft 1.4 server jar no problem yet
#3211 [21:26] <Aconitin> hi
#3212 [21:26] <Razorflame> Besides having to be grown on sand, what else should I consider when making a cactus farm
#3213 [21:26] <rumpler> hi
#3214 [21:26] <Razorflame> umbridge: 1.4 isn't the latest version
#3215 [21:26] <rumpler> i wanted to play minecraft, but with my girlfriend, is minecraft multiplayer?
#3216 [21:26] <umbridge> can someone try my server now?
#3217 [21:26] <Razorflame> 1.5_02 is
#3218 [21:26] <rumpler> i want me and my girlfriend to build things together.
#3219 [21:26] <Aconitin> Razorflame: cacti cant have any blok adjacent to em
#3220 [21:26] <umbridge> or is everyone on 1.5?
#3221 [21:26] <Aconitin> rumpler: yap
#3222 [21:26] <umbridge> because im not
#3223 [21:26] <umbridge> yet
#3224 [21:27] <bread> rumpler: minecraft is very multiplayer :P
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#3226 [21:27] <Razorflame> umbridge: Most people I know have installed the 1.5 patch
#3227 [21:27] <Razorflame> Aconitin: Anything else it needs?
#3228 [21:27] <rumpler> @ aconitin : i can then start a new game and have my gf play the game together with me and we live in our fantasy world?
#3229 [21:27] <umbridge> is 1.5_02 out yet?
#3230 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> rumpler: yes, but you need a server.
#3231 [21:27] <umbridge> i can only get up to 1.5_01
#3232 [21:27] <rumpler> can my computer host the server?
#3233 [21:27] <Razorflame> Yes
#3234 [21:27] <Baphomet> does anyone know whether chunks are counted from +0 or from -0?
#3235 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> rumpler: you can either run one yourself, or both play on a public server somewhere
#3236 [21:27] <rumpler> i have a pc running 24/7
#3237 [21:27] <Razorflame> That's the latest game patch
#3238 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> Baphomet: no such thing as negative zero
#3239 [21:28] <Razorflame> 1.5_01
#3240 [21:28] <Aconitin> umbridge: thats the newest client version. newest sever version is 1.5_02
#3241 [21:28] <bread> rumpler: if it's the same PC you'll be playing on, depending on it's specs you could
#3242 [21:28] <Baphomet> I know, not normally, but there is on minecraft according to the f3 data
#3243 [21:28] <rumpler> i5 2500K oc'ed to 5ghz, 8 gb of ram...
#3244 [21:28] <rumpler> i dont think there is an issue, is there?
#3245 [21:28] <bread> I think you'd be just fine
#3246 [21:28] <bread> ;)
#3247 [21:28] <VoxelHead> :)
#3248 [21:28] <rumpler> ty so much, purchasing now ;)
#3249 [21:28] <bread> :D
#3250 [21:28] <rumpler> do i have to have seperate liscense for my gf as well
#3251 [21:29] <rumpler> ?
#3252 [21:29] <rumpler> i want to just "try" it
#3253 [21:29] <Baphomet> are the numbers you get from hitting f3 counted from the corner of the block?
#3254 [21:29] <bread> If you'll both be playing at the same time, then yes
#3255 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> rumpler: yes, you both will need an account to play at the smae time
#3256 [21:29] <Thimerit> If you wanna try I recommend to play in turns to see if you like it or not
#3257 [21:29] <Baphomet> they ARE counted from the corner. please ignore my stupid question
#3258 [21:29] <Thimerit> if you do, buy one for her!
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#3261 [21:30] <bread> ^ that guy is driving me mad.
#3262 [21:31] <bread> just sayin
#3263 [21:31] <rumpler> ok
#3264 [21:31] <rumpler> thank you guys so much
#3265 [21:31] <DopeGhoti> rumpler: cheers! o/
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#3267 [21:33] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =(
#3268 [21:33] <AkiTensai> The achievements background has ore in it. How accurate is that background to % depth from the bottom accurate is it to actual? Did Notch give us a cheatsheet in game?
#3269 [21:33] <Aconitin> no.
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#3271 [21:34] <AkiTensai> The background was made to look good rather then accurate then.
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#3273 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> bread: solved.
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#3277 [21:38] <Aconitin> what were the keys to pick somebodys name in irc up again?
#3278 [21:38] <NeonAiToruu> Hi!
#3279 [21:38] <VoxelHead> =D
#3280 [21:38] <Aconitin> hello
#3281 [21:39] <NeonAiToruu> Is it possible to change my display name in MineCraft? My friend says he doesn't know, and I think I made my name too long
#3282 [21:39] <Aconitin> no
#3283 [21:39] <Aconitin> its not
#3284 [21:39] <Aconitin> afaik
#3285 [21:39] <NeonAiToruu> Darn, fank yoo anyways :3
#3286 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> confirmed: name changing not possible at present.
#3287 [21:40] <Aconitin> no problem^^
#3288 [21:42] <bread> DopeGhoti: lolol
#3289 [21:43] <DopeGhoti> Aconitin: I think thig was looking for you; since you're here, shoot him a PM or put him on /ignore (:
#3290 [21:43] <adamkex> how often does it snow/rain?
#3291 [21:44] <Aconitin> i know, im helping him with his problem, but i think he completely F+cked up his system
#3292 [21:44] <Aconitin> adamkex: randomly.
#3293 [21:45] <thig> can you guys hear me?
#3294 [21:45] <Aconitin> ye
#3295 [21:45] <thig> yay
#3296 [21:45] <Aconitin> check ya pm
#3297 [21:45] <thig> why did you do that dopeghoti?
#3298 [21:46] <Kealper> lol....
#3299 [21:46] <Kealper> do i even want to know?
#3300 [21:46] <DopeGhoti> I can undo it if you want.
#3301 [21:47] <Aconitin> k its like 3:47 am now, cya all xD
#3302 [21:47] <DopeGhoti> night, Aconitin
#3303 [21:47] <thig> please dont do that again dopeghoti
#3304 [21:47] <DopeGhoti> er, morning.
#3305 [21:47] <Aconitin> xD
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#3307 [21:48] <thig> what did i do wrong dopeghoti?
#3308 [21:48] <thig> to make you make
#3309 [21:48] <thig> *mad
#3310 [21:49] <thig> are you a bot dopeghoti?
#3311 [21:49] <bread> lol
#3312 [21:49] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#3313 [21:49] <thig> thought so
#3314 [21:49] <bread> DopeGhoti, fire everything at VoxelHead
#3315 [21:49] <thig> you are a mean bot
#3316 [21:49] * DopeGhoti swoops in on VoxelHead, decloaking on the way..
#3316 [21:49] * VoxelHead swoops in DopeGhoti
#3316 [21:50] * DopeGhoti takes evasive action
#3316 [21:50] * DopeGhoti shimmers from view
#3316 [21:50] <VoxelHead> *loves it*
#3317 [21:50] * It is loved
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#3318 [21:51] <bread> I lol'd until it hurt.
#3319 [21:51] <Kealper> The: why such generic names? do you just like being hilighted every two messages? lol
#3320 [21:51] <VoxelHead> watch out for the moose
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#3322 [21:51] <bread> now he likes being hilighted whenever dubstep is playing
#3323 [21:51] <bread> wugwugwugwug
#3324 [21:51] <Kealper> that's wub lol
#3325 [21:52] <DopeGhoti> "* Wug is now known as A"
#3326 [21:52] <bread> yes I know it's wub
#3327 [21:52] <bread> but wug can work too
#3328 [21:52] <Kealper> meh
#3329 [21:52] <bread> if it's 'dirty'
#3330 [21:52] <bread> or whatever word they use to describe that awful music
#3331 [21:52] <Wug> risucraft keeps banning my nicks because they're unfun prudes
#3332 [21:52] <Kealper> bread: i call it trash, but the failnubs call it dirty lol
#3333 [21:52] <bread> trash is pretty dirty!
#3334 [21:53] <DopeGhoti> Wug: so you're ban-evading?
#3335 [21:53] <Wug> no, I'm trying to use my nicks
#3336 [21:53] <Wug> and they seem to think having someone in the channel called it is annoying or something
#3337 [21:54] <bread> derp
#3338 [21:54] <DopeGhoti> you and some friends shound /nick yourselves who, what, why, and dunno, all /join the channel, and have a game of baseball.
#3339 [21:54] <Kealper> lol
#3340 [21:54] <bread> omg
#3341 [21:54] <bread> brilliant
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#3344 [22:00] <thig> BAM BONER!
#3345 [22:00] <Kealper> uhh.... thig if that was a script, turn it off
#3346 [22:01] <Coll> brilliant
#3347 [22:01] <Coll> omg
#3348 [22:01] <Coll> derp
#3349 [22:01] <Coll> >_>
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#3353 [22:04] <Crisis> Guys, i think i found out a newer bug, could you check it out?
#3354 [22:05] <EmpiresBane> we can help with stuff, but we're not part of mojang, just do you know
#3355 [22:05] <Crisis> Alright, i didn't expect a member of Mojang :P
#3356 [22:05] <Crisis> Anyway, here's the link - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=302175
#3357 [22:07] <EmpiresBane> i have never seen that bug...
#3358 [22:07] <EmpiresBane> oh crap.
#3359 [22:07] <EmpiresBane> i gtg
#3360 [22:07] <Crisis> I believe it's a new bu-.. hah!
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#3365 [22:18] <Kealper> Crisis: that's an interesting bug.....lol
#3366 [22:19] <Crisis> It's most strange isn't it, I did twitter it to Jeb and Notch, i just hope they look at it..
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#3368 [22:20] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: can i resize my home partition without hurting it?
#3369 [22:20] <Kealper> in nix
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#3371 [22:21] <Wug> crisis, it's a corrupted world
#3372 [22:21] <Dovanchester> Ello
#3373 [22:21] <Wug> keapler, yeah, just don't try to shrink it to much. growing it is pretty much fine
#3374 [22:21] <bread> Kealper: yes
#3375 [22:21] <Wug> back stuff up anyway though
#3376 [22:21] <Kealper> yeah i need to grow it
#3377 [22:21] <Crisis> I don't understand how it could get corrupted Wug.
#3378 [22:21] <Kealper> it doesn't have much on it
#3379 [22:21] <bread> you should be fine :D
#3380 [22:21] <Dovanchester> This is teh help channel right?
#3381 [22:21] <Wug> its a corrupt chunk, i've seen a dozen like it
#3382 [22:22] <Crisis> Is there a fix?
#3383 [22:22] <Kealper> Dovanchester: yessir
#3384 [22:22] <Wug> if you post a mediafire link to the save I'll fix it in 5 minutes
#3385 [22:22] <Crisis> Oh really?
#3386 [22:22] <Dovanchester> Well, I could use some help :P
#3387 [22:22] <Crisis> I'll try to do that now i guess :)
#3388 [22:22] <Wug> maybe. I've never used mcedit on linux, there might be some additional install time required
#3389 [22:22] <Kealper> Dovanchester: care to be more specific? lol
#3390 [22:22] <bread> I've used mcedit on linux just fine
#3391 [22:23] <Crisis> Wug: Thanks for the help, I'll just WinRAR this save.
#3392 [22:23] <bread> WinRAR :|
#3393 [22:23] <bread> 7zip ftw
#3394 [22:23] <Dovanchester> It's that silly 'Login Failed' thingy, seems to be common as there are quite a few hits on the forum, haven't seen too much clearance on the matter though
#3395 [22:24] <Crisis> 7Zip, What is that program anyway.
#3396 [22:24] <Kealper> Dovanchester: you are positive you are getting your info correct?
#3397 [22:24] <Crisis> Sounds crappy.
#3398 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Dovanchester - Login Failed usually means that the login info is incorrect
#3399 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Either you're using the wrong login or password for that login
#3400 [22:25] <Dovanchester> Yeah, I'll try the Java
#3401 [22:25] <Crisis> I'm just uploading it now.
#3402 [22:25] <VoxelHead> Mmm lilomar.
#3403 [22:25] <Crisis> It's quite a big world, 55mb or something like that.
#3404 [22:26] <Dovanchester> Seems like my Java wasn't updated
#3405 [22:26] <Dovanchester> Oops :P
#3406 [22:26] <Wug> whatever you send, i'll be able to open it
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#3409 [22:28] <Crisis> Slow upload times ;[
#3410 [22:29] <Crisis> So, how would you go by fixing it anyway?
#3411 [22:29] <Crisis> Just adding blocks to the corrupt part?
#3412 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> The whole chunk is corrupt.. so..
#3413 [22:30] <bread> lol, Crisis, 7zip is a open source archive format, with much better compression than RAR
#3414 [22:30] <Crisis> I see, I'll have a look at it later on and compare them ;)
#3415 [22:30] <Wug> they're actually pretty similar
#3416 [22:30] <bread> except for the FOSS part
#3417 [22:30] <Wug> anyway, still waiting on link, send when ready. I got mcedit working
#3418 [22:30] <Crisis> 42% So far on the upload.
#3419 [22:30] <Crisis> It's going slow :P
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#3421 [22:31] <xownagex> hai!
#3422 [22:31] <VoxelHead> wheeeee hai
#3423 [22:31] <Crisis> Hello.
#3424 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Haro
#3425 [22:31] <xownagex> can i have help?
#3426 [22:31] <Wug> ohemjee voxelhead I wuv u :3
#3427 [22:31] <Crisis> What's up?
#3428 [22:31] <xownagex> wat is the most efficient way up and down a mine now?
#3429 [22:31] <xownagex> since 1.5 update
#3430 [22:32] <Wug> umm it hasn't changed?
#3431 [22:32] <Crisis> Minecarts?
#3432 [22:32] <xownagex> yea
#3433 [22:32] <xownagex> it has
#3434 [22:32] <xownagex> from waterladders
#3435 [22:32] <Crisis> I'de say you should build a minecart track.
#3436 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Water elevators don't work anymore
#3437 [22:32] <xownagex> now we cant do water ladders
#3438 [22:32] <xownagex> ik
#3439 [22:32] <Wug> ok, then minecarts
#3440 [22:32] <xownagex> ok
#3441 [22:32] <xownagex> ty
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#3443 [22:33] <Crisis> I'll send you a pm in a second Wug.
#3444 [22:33] <bread> I think that was the fastest I've ever seen some /join and /part, happily
#3445 [22:33] <Crisis> When this has done.
#3446 [22:33] <bread> someone*
#3447 [22:33] <Crisis> Same here bread, i was just thinking that myself :P
#3448 [22:33] <Wug> lol
#3449 [22:33] <bread> like I missed that whole thing
#3450 [22:33] <Kealper> gah....must....resize partition....but i have no idea how to do it....
#3451 [22:33] * Wug eats bread for the 4th time today
#3451 [22:33] <bread> :>
#3452 [22:33] <bread> Kealper: gparted!
#3453 [22:33] <Thimerit> The water elevator and boats don't work anymore?
#3454 [22:33] <bread> gogogo
#3455 [22:33] <Thimerit> :(
#3456 [22:33] <DUKyleXY> I am having issues with my server whenever a third player joins. My internet crashes and I have to restart my comp. Anyone experience this??
#3457 [22:33] <Wug> keapler, gpa... ninjad
#3458 [22:33] <bread> :>
#3459 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Thimerit - Sorry, water ladders don't work anymore
#3460 [22:34] <Kealper> bleh, i don't even think i have that installed
#3461 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> the practice of doing a water fall encased in stone, then going up the diagonal edge of it
#3462 [22:34] <Thimerit> Ladders are ok, but the elevator is what I wanted to build soon xD
#3463 [22:34] <Crisis> I never even made a water elevator myself.
#3464 [22:34] <bread> well you can't resize a partition while it's mounted anyway, Kealper :P
#3465 [22:34] <Wug> southwest rule hackery
#3466 [22:34] <Crisis> I wanted to, but now i guess i can't.
#3467 [22:34] <Thimerit> the one with 1 boat in it
#3468 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> The water elevators, I believe still work
#3469 [22:34] <DopeGhoti> ..how about ladder ladders?
#3470 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> with the boats
#3471 [22:34] <Wug> however, you can still catch yourself on fire with lava through the corner of a block :z
#3472 [22:34] <Crisis> Ah!
#3473 [22:34] <VoxelHead> Ah
#3474 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> ladder ladders still work, but you can't have gaps in them anymore
#3475 [22:34] <Thimerit> Ahh
#3476 [22:34] <Wug> voxelhead, y u no respond to me
#3477 [22:35] <Kealper> bread: hmm...this may take some thought then lol
#3478 [22:35] <bread> Kealper, better off just downloading a liveCD of gparted, or systemrescueCD, and putting on a flash drive, or blank CD
#3479 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Needs to be contiguous vertically
#3480 [22:35] <bread> putting it on*
#3481 [22:35] <Kealper> bread: it's a vm
#3482 [22:35] <VoxelHead> why u no use english?
#3483 [22:35] <bread> ooh
#3484 [22:35] <bread> oooh
#3485 [22:35] <bread> well
#3486 [22:35] <bread> that complicates things
#3487 [22:35] <Wug> can't you boot the vm from a livecd?
#3488 [22:35] <bread> yeah
#3489 [22:35] <bread> yeah do that
#3490 [22:35] <Kealper> yeah but i'm lazy
#3491 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Wug, happen to have MCedit? You could try deleting the chunk and reloading it in minecraft to generate that chunk again
#3492 [22:35] <Wug> well, a livecd iso or something
#3493 [22:35] <bread> boot the VM from a livecd ISO
#3494 [22:35] <Wug> grey yep, thats the plan
#3495 [22:35] * GreyVulpine nods
#3495 [22:35] <Wug> ive done this many a time
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#3497 [22:36] <Kealper> why does this have to be so complicated....
#3498 [22:36] <bread> lol
#3499 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> I've seen a fair percentage of those errors fixed by doing that
#3500 [22:36] <bread> 8D
#3501 [22:36] * Wug hopes it isnt on megaupload
#3501 [22:36] <Kealper> infact, why did the friggin installer have the default size for the home partition at like....350mb
#3502 [22:36] <Wug> grey, do you ever go to the forums
#3503 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Not anymore
#3504 [22:36] <Wug> so you used to?
#3505 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#3506 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> I used to frequent the support forums as well
#3507 [22:37] <DopeGhoti> same here
#3508 [22:37] <Crisis> Why'd you quit?
#3509 [22:37] <DopeGhoti> they got too.. forum-y
#3510 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Too much.. ^
#3511 [22:37] <Kealper> lol
#3512 [22:37] <DopeGhoti> threads never stay on topic, &c &c
#3513 [22:37] <Crisis> No offense, But i don't like the kids on the forums.
#3514 [22:37] <Crisis> They make it off topic.
#3515 [22:37] <DopeGhoti> and no one's ever PayPaled me money for helping 'em via a forum :D
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#3517 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> I never got money >.>
#3518 [22:37] <Kealper> Crisis: no offense taken, i personally hate the place
#3519 [22:37] <Wug> Well, I started this thread: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=148674
#3520 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Got offered once, turned it down because it was too easy.
#3521 [22:38] <Wug> I've seen pretty much everything that can go wrong with saves
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#3524 [22:38] <shooter190> How to connect to multiplayer on beta?
#3525 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Use the multiplayer link to enter an IP, use...
#3526 [22:38] <Wug> same way as always, enter ip, hit connect
#3527 [22:38] <DopeGhoti> shooter190: start client, click 'multiplayer'; type in server host?
#3528 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#3529 [22:38] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3530 [22:38] <Crisis> >Multiplayer>IP>Connect.
#3531 [22:38] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3532 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> One of those websites to find a server
#3533 [22:38] <DopeGhoti> s/IP/IP or hostname/
#3534 [22:39] <Crisis> Wug - http://www.mediafire.com/?ik4t1of4aridt0m
#3535 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3536 [22:39] <VoxelHead> =D
#3537 [22:39] <Wug> mediafire's as slow as death today
#3538 [22:40] <Crisis> I know right.
#3539 [22:40] <DUKyleXY> I am running a server for a few friends and whenever we have three players on, my internet (as host) crashes and requires a reboot....any known solutions?
#3540 [22:40] <Crisis> My upload time was like, ten minutes.
#3541 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Known solutions, nope.. known problem, yes
#3542 [22:40] <DUKyleXY> Thanks @GreyVulpine
#3543 [22:41] <Wug> ... download finished
#3544 [22:41] <Crisis> Now try and run it and see what i mean?
#3545 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Also see.
#3546 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/smp_server_destabilizes_internet_connection
#3547 [22:41] <Crisis> You can't even move.
#3548 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_after_about_5_minutes_connected_to_a_smp_server
#3549 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internet_crashes_when_anyone_joins_my_smp_server
#3550 [22:42] <DUKyleXY> Thanks all!
#3551 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Didn't really solve his problem at all, but..
#3552 [22:43] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#3555 [22:53] <Crisis> How's it going wug?
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#3558 [22:57] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] ? (Anonymous) - Fri, 22 Apr 2011 02:57:13 +0000
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#3560 [22:58] <Wug> I think I got it
#3561 [22:58] <Crisis> Tried to run it?
#3562 [22:58] <Davis> Alright so i just reinstalled, and now whenever i place blocks my game crashes
#3563 [22:58] <Wug> I also did you the favor of moving you out of lava
#3564 [22:58] <Crisis> Ahah, thanks :P
#3565 [22:58] <Wug> you can move and stuff
#3566 [22:58] <Davis> yeah
#3567 [22:58] <Crisis> Sweet, thanks for the help :)
#3568 [22:59] <xales> Davis: Is there an error?
#3569 [22:59] <Wug> whats with all the lava blocks? it probably broke because you were haxing
#3570 [22:59] <VoxelHead> Orange.
#3571 [22:59] <Wug> brb uploading
#3572 [22:59] <Davis> I can destroy blocks walk everything, but if i place it it crashes
#3573 [22:59] <Davis> i didn't say lava
#3574 [22:59] <Davis> its any block i was using dirt
#3575 [22:59] <Crisis> Nah, i hacked in the lava to see if i could kill myself in order to fix the bug.
#3576 [22:59] <Davis> oh not me :P
#3577 [22:59] <xales> Davis: Is there an error?
#3578 [22:59] <Davis> nope didn't see one
#3579 [22:59] <VoxelHead> what a silly question *giggle*
#3580 [22:59] <Davis> unless it closed to fast
#3581 [23:00] <xales> Davis: look in the folder that you are launching Minecraft from
#3582 [23:00] <xales> is there a .txt file there, or on your desktop?
#3583 [23:00] <Davis> i'm on mac if that helps
#3584 [23:00] <Davis> and i have a texture pack
#3585 [23:00] <xales> ah
#3586 [23:00] <xales> try without the texture pack
#3587 [23:00] <Wug> all done
#3588 [23:00] <Crisis> Thanks alot, check out my world if you want
#3589 [23:01] <Crisis> Not the best around :P
#3590 [23:01] <Wug> http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/Testingworld.7z
#3591 [23:01] <VoxelHead> I need tacos... i need them or i explode. that happens sometimes.
#3592 [23:01] <Crisis> Thanks Wug :)
#3593 [23:01] <Davis> yep texture packs :(
#3594 [23:01] * bread hugs vox
#3594 [23:01] <Davis> all of them must be doing it, it must be the patcher
#3595 [23:01] <VoxelHead> ~rarr~
#3596 [23:01] * Wug vox's bread
#3596 [23:01] <Davis> well i'll figure it out cya
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#3598 [23:05] <Yushatak> hello there
#3599 [23:05] <Yushatak> http://i.imgur.com/feHjK.png
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#3601 [23:05] <jmgr2007> hello
#3602 [23:05] <Yushatak> dot/line artifacts in the snow, clouds, and held items
#3603 [23:06] <Yushatak> not caused by gpu settings or minecraft video settings
#3604 [23:06] <Yushatak> anisotropic filtering is off completely
#3605 [23:06] <xales> Yushatak: If it's a problem with a texture pack, it's a problem with the texture pack, and you would have to edit it to fix that
#3606 [23:06] <Yushatak> i don't see how it could be, the clouds aren't even modded
#3607 [23:06] <Yushatak> nor is the iron sword
#3608 [23:06] <Yushatak> i'll try the default pack real quick
#3609 [23:06] <Yushatak> to verify
#3610 [23:06] <Yushatak> yeah happens with default too
#3611 [23:07] <Yushatak> didn't happen earlier today
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#3613 [23:07] <Yushatak> not sure what could have changed
#3614 [23:07] <xales> Yushatak: have you tried..restarting your computer?
#3615 [23:07] <xales> as stupid as that sounds...it's known to fix some issues like that
#3616 [23:07] <Yushatak> no actually, i rarely do as i run server services on here
#3617 [23:07] <Yushatak> the thought did occur to me however
#3618 [23:07] <Yushatak> while i was saying it didnt happen earlier today..
#3619 [23:08] <Yushatak> but i really wish i knew what it was specifically, lol
#3620 [23:08] <Yushatak> well ill go try that
#3621 [23:08] <Yushatak> i'll be back whether it works or not to report in
#3622 [23:08] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go T_T
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#3625 [23:12] <Yushatak> no effect whatsoever i'm afraid
#3626 [23:12] <xales> Do you know what GPU you have?
#3627 [23:12] <Yushatak> yeah
#3628 [23:12] <Yushatak> ati radeon 4870 2gb
#3629 [23:12] <xales> tried updating drivers for that?
#3630 [23:13] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] A little advert I made for the server I play on! (Anonymous) - Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:09:04 +0000
#3631 [23:13] <xales> okay, that's annoying
#3632 [23:13] <Yushatak> no i haven't, but since the problem appeared while not having changed the drivers i don't see what effect that could have.. i think im at the latest, however
#3633 [23:13] <Yushatak> ill check
#3634 [23:13] <Yushatak> (and update if not anyway..)
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#3636 [23:13] * xales smacks gOne2002 with McPlusPlus
#3636 [23:14] <Yushatak> updating
#3637 [23:14] <Yushatak> thankfully win7 can swap video drivers w/o a reboot
#3638 [23:14] <Yushatak> which is nice.
#3639 [23:14] <Yushatak> no effect.
#3640 [23:15] <xales> hmm
#3641 [23:15] <LordTrevor> I could tell you windows sucks if you want.
#3642 [23:15] <xales> have you tried just deleteing the bin folder?
#3643 [23:15] <VoxelHead> What is your favourite colour?
#3644 [23:15] <xales> VoxelHead, shut up
#3645 [23:15] <Yushatak> no i haven't, but i can if it could be relevant :p
#3646 [23:15] <Yushatak> VoxelHead, monty python ftw.
#3647 [23:16] <Yushatak> no effect.
#3648 [23:16] <Yushatak> this isn't a simple problem, or id've solved it myself lol
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#3650 [23:16] <Yushatak> i did notice that turning on advanced opengl in the video options (occlusion culling is the only thing it toggles iirc) makes the problem worse by adding lines to all other textures. :p
#3651 [23:16] <Yushatak> but im not certain that's relevant at all
#3652 [23:17] <xales> I guess try deleteing the bin folder - do you need instructions on that?
#3653 [23:17] <Yushatak> no, i just did that
#3654 [23:17] <Yushatak> it had no effect.
#3655 [23:17] <Yushatak> i'm a computer expert, so feel free to assume technical knowledge.
#3656 [23:17] <Yushatak> :p
#3657 [23:17] <poiuyt> does anyone know if passive mobs can spawn on dirt, or does it have to be grass?
#3658 [23:17] <Yushatak> has to be grass.
#3659 [23:18] <poiuyt> can mobs spawn below grass? I've got chickens ruining my underground farm and I don't know how they got there
#3660 [23:18] <VoxelHead> Thank you... i love you.
#3661 [23:18] <Yushatak> ok i just hit the "Defaults" button in the CCC out of desperation
#3662 [23:18] <Yushatak> and it fixed it somehow
#3663 [23:18] <Yushatak> clearly one of the options is responsible
#3664 [23:18] <Yushatak> but i did try toggling them manually before..
#3665 [23:19] * Yushatak reenables one by one
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#3669 [23:28] <Yushatak> apparently it's AA... but i always run 2x narrow tent AA on minecraft...
#3670 [23:28] <Yushatak> and never have had a single issue
#3671 [23:28] <Yushatak> not three days ago i ran it without this issue
#3672 [23:29] <thig> i really want to play minecraft ,reeeally bad
#3673 [23:29] <thig> to bad i cant
#3674 [23:30] <Yushatak> spell-^
#3675 [23:30] <bread> lol
#3676 [23:30] <thig> oh shut up
#3677 [23:30] <Kealper> thig: why can't you?
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#3679 [23:31] <thig> after i reinstalled my graphics card,my computer restarts when i play minecraft
#3680 [23:31] <Kealper> oh my
#3681 [23:32] <thig> i can do cmd for you
#3682 [23:32] <bread> I think your windows is broked
#3683 [23:32] <thig> if that helps
#3684 [23:32] <bread> er
#3685 [23:32] <bread> borked
#3686 [23:32] <thig> cmd says its a java problem
#3687 [23:32] <werwew19> can someone help me make a cool city i would do alot in return and its on 1.5
#3688 [23:32] <thig> or aconitin does
#3689 [23:33] <thig> anybody intrested in helping me?
#3690 [23:33] <xales> thig: As I've already told you what, 3 times now?
#3691 [23:33] <Kealper> i've been informed that you should just buy a new computer
#3692 [23:33] <xales> you need to get a new graphics card, and probably a new computer
#3693 [23:34] <thig> other people say different
#3694 [23:34] <bread> well the other people are dumb.
#3695 [23:34] <xales> ...pretty much
#3696 [23:34] <bread> xales knows his shit bro
#3697 [23:34] <bread> you'd do well to listen to him
#3698 [23:34] <thig> ya...
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#3700 [23:34] <xales> not to mention that pretty much all of the ops do this to make a living
#3701 [23:34] <thig> you get payed for this?
#3702 [23:35] <bread> :o
#3703 [23:35] <xales> not this, no
#3704 [23:35] <thig> you should
#3705 [23:35] <xales> who would pay us? ._.
#3706 [23:35] <bread> Not I!
#3707 [23:35] <thig> me
#3708 [23:35] <thig> not really
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#3710 [23:36] <werwew19> i would pay 3$ and 50 cents for someone to help me make a city xD
#3711 [23:36] <thig> well are you completely positive that there are no other possible solutions?
#3712 [23:36] <bread> Yes.
#3713 [23:36] <xales> thig: It's a simple fact
#3714 [23:36] <xales> your graphics card is a piece of shit
#3715 [23:36] <xales> and cannot run Minecraft
#3716 [23:36] <thig> DARN IT
#3717 [23:36] <thig> ive ran it before
#3718 [23:36] <thig> for like,months
#3719 [23:37] <qpzdox> I'm sorry, but could anybody help me with a Minecraft Multiplayer issue? It's the Timed Out: Connect problem, and I've already tried port forwarding on my Linksys WRT54G and turned off Virus Protection/Firewall.
#3720 [23:37] <xales> qpzdox: what IP are you using?
#3721 [23:37] <qpzdox> I used a static ip first and turned off dhcp.
#3722 [23:37] <xales> I mean, what IP are you trying to connect to
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#3725 [23:38] <thig> does running minecraft for months before change the awnser,xales?
#3726 [23:38] <Yushatak> i figured it out
#3727 [23:38] <Yushatak> apparently adaptive AA has to be on max, and AA has to be on max
#3728 [23:38] <qpzdox> 69.57.166.21:25565
#3729 [23:39] <xales> thig: As the game is developed, the requirements increase
#3730 [23:39] <Yushatak> something about 1.5 and lower AA settings doesn't get along
#3731 [23:39] <xales> we have been through this
#3732 [23:39] <Yushatak> have to max them out.
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#3734 [23:39] <Yushatak> now it looks fine
#3735 [23:39] <xales> your graphics card is a piece of shit
#3736 [23:39] <xales> you can do NOTHING but buy a new one
#3737 [23:39] <qpzdox> It happens with any server, not just that one.
#3738 [23:39] <Yushatak> erm
#3739 [23:39] <Yushatak> the game's requirements haven't changed much
#3740 [23:39] <xales> Yushatak: okay, I'll make a note of it if anyone else has the issue
#3741 [23:39] <Yushatak> u can disable the new lighting, etc.
#3742 [23:39] <Yushatak> xales, thanks - im sure they'd appreciate it
#3743 [23:39] <Yushatak> the weather does increase the requirements a tad
#3744 [23:39] <Yushatak> actually
#3745 [23:39] <Yushatak> i expect..
#3746 [23:40] <Yushatak> anyway it won't matter in another year or two
#3747 [23:40] <xales> qpzdox: try "smp.shadow-craft.net"
#3748 [23:40] * Yushatak goes to finally enjoy minecraft for the day :P
#3748 [23:40] <thig> good point,well,any suggestions on a good quality graphics card for a cheap or fairly cheap price?|
#3749 [23:40] <xales> I've already answered that again
#3750 [23:40] <xales> I'm not going to answer it another time
#3751 [23:40] <thig> when?
#3752 [23:40] <thig> not today
#3753 [23:40] <xales> when you first asked...
#3754 [23:40] <werwew19> thig newegg.com might find you an answer
#3755 [23:41] <thig> that was a long time ago
#3756 [23:41] <qpzdox> xales: I entered my username and email and got a "Success" response
#3757 [23:41] <xales> qpzdox: I meant connecting to the server <.< but whatever
#3758 [23:41] <qpzdox> ^^;
#3759 [23:41] <VoxelHead> :-)
#3760 [23:41] <xales> thig: it really wasn't, and if I remember what I said, you should too
#3761 [23:41] <xales> once again, if your computer is old enough to have a card that horrible, it probably doesn't support modern cards anyway
#3762 [23:41] <thig> few days ago
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#3764 [23:42] <xales> you should take it to a computer store where someone who knows that they are doing can help you get one that works with your system, and install it properly
#3765 [23:42] <thig> its windows xp proffesional,is that really old
#3766 [23:42] <qpzdox> Thanks a ton, xales!
#3767 [23:42] <xales> qpzdox: no problem
#3768 [23:42] <xales> thig: the OS doesn't have much to do with the age of the computer
#3769 [23:42] <xales> at all
#3770 [23:42] <thig> oh
#3771 [23:43] <thig> sorry if im annoying you
#3772 [23:43] <bread> Windows XP is ten years old lol
#3773 [23:43] <thig> omg,i didnt know
#3774 [23:43] <bread> My OS is one or two days old :>
#3775 [23:43] <thig> well,my uncle sucks because he gave me this in 2007
#3776 [23:44] <xales> You should be glad you have a computer at all
#3777 [23:44] <bread> ^
#3778 [23:44] <xales> I had to buy my own computer
#3779 [23:44] <thig> i just really want to play minecraft,extremely bad
#3780 [23:44] <xales> Then get a better computer/graphics card
#3781 [23:44] <xales> if your parents don't want to get it for you, get a job and earn your own money to buy it with
#3782 [23:45] <thig> im 12
#3783 [23:45] <xales> so walk dogs or mow lawns or something
#3784 [23:45] <thig> iwas thinking about writing a book
#3785 [23:45] <xales> Authors don't make much money. at all
#3786 [23:45] <xales> if you even get published
#3787 [23:45] * xolotl had been using XP as his windows VM until just a few weeks ago actually. :)
#3787 [23:45] <VoxelHead> I do love a good hading.
#3788 [23:46] <xolotl> (though that was admittedly just in a VM)
#3789 [23:46] <thig> but that takes a long time and doesnt pay much
#3790 [23:46] <thig> writing a book
#3791 [23:46] <thig> what should i do?
#3792 [23:46] <xales> I already said
#3793 [23:46] <bread> <@xales> so walk dogs or mow lawns or something
#3794 [23:46] <xales> ^
#3795 [23:46] <thig> that pays well
#3796 [23:46] <thig> naaa
#3797 [23:46] <bread> it pays more than you make now, doesn't it?
#3798 [23:47] <xales> You won't get anything that pays "well" if you are 12
#3799 [23:47] <bread> ^
#3800 [23:47] <thig> dont make anything
#3801 [23:47] <xales> My first job was at a WaWa
#3802 [23:47] <xales> I made $11/hour
#3803 [23:47] <bread> You can't even legally have a job if you're 12.
#3804 [23:47] <bread> OMG WAWA
#3805 [23:47] <thig> wawa?
#3806 [23:47] <bread> "Do you even know what a Wawa is"
#3807 [23:47] <bread> LOL
#3808 [23:47] <thig> EUROPEAN?
#3809 [23:47] <bread> YES I DO
#3810 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> !wiki wawa
#3811 [23:47] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawa_Food_Market
#3812 [23:47] <GreyBot> Wawa Inc. is a chain of convenience store/gas stations located in the Mid-Atlantic region of the United States. It operates in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia. The company's corporate headquarters is located in Chester Heights, Pennsylvania, near the community of Wawa.
#3813 [23:47] <bread> I totally forgot you live in Penn olol
#3814 [23:48] <bread> fuckin Wawa
#3815 [23:48] <bread> oh man
#3816 [23:48] <xales> lol
#3817 [23:48] <thig> must be bad
#3818 [23:48] <bread> I haven't see one of those in years
#3819 [23:48] <xales> GreyVulpine: They don't have those in Michigan? lol
#3820 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3821 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Never heard of them
#3822 [23:48] <xales> I could have sworn...oh well
#3823 [23:48] <bread> no dude, they're like only in Penn
#3824 [23:48] <bread> and NJ
#3825 [23:48] <thig> me neither,porland oregon
#3826 [23:48] <thig> i hate this
#3827 [23:49] <xales> Complaining won't get you anywhere
#3828 [23:49] <thig> i can play it on my moms computer,but she doesnt want me to use it because of that problem
#3829 [23:50] <xolotl> thig: Just remember, this too shall pass, and there are far worse things than not being able to play Minecraft
#3830 [23:50] <thig> i told her it doesnt damage the computer,but she doesnt care
#3831 [23:50] <xales> well...
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#3833 [23:50] <xales> it could damage the computer if the comptuer wasn't cooled properly
#3834 [23:50] <bread> "there are far worse things than not being able to play Minecraft"
#3835 [23:50] <bread> ^
#3836 [23:50] <xales> it's known to happen
#3837 [23:51] <xales> especially with laptops
#3838 [23:51] <bread> like getting raped by four hundred massive angry men
#3839 [23:51] <thig> i think ill play it when i get home one and a half hours earlier
#3840 [23:51] <xales> not a common occurance
#3841 [23:51] <bread> that's worse than not playing minecraft
#3842 [23:51] <xales> bread: no, what's worse
#3843 [23:51] <xales> is being raped by four hundred massive angry _women_
#3844 [23:51] <xales> derp
#3845 [23:51] <thig> cutting off your wiener
#3846 [23:51] <bread> lol
#3847 [23:51] <thig> ouch
#3848 [23:51] <VoxelHead> awww
#3849 [23:51] * VoxelHead rubs thig better
#3849 [23:51] <bread> having your genitalia frozen in liquid nitrogen.
#3850 [23:52] <bread> That's word than not playing minecraft
#3851 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Death by Snoo Snoo?
#3852 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Er, was it Death by Snu Snu..
#3853 [23:52] <ivorybishop> is there a server for folks using minecraft.jar on ubuntu to test out minecraft for the first time? I dl'ed it an ran it, but it only says "no premium user" when i try to login with the u/p i created at minecraft.com
#3854 [23:52] <bread> aha
#3855 [23:52] <werwew19> grey a bit to much futurama for you
#3856 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#3857 [23:52] <bread> 8D
#3858 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#3859 [23:53] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survivial, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#3860 [23:53] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#3861 [23:53] <ivorybishop> that runs on ubuntu?
#3862 [23:53] * GreyVulpine shurgs
#3862 [23:53] * GreyVulpine shrugs even.
#3862 [23:53] <thig> vox is hairier than your mom at a barber shop
#3863 [23:54] <bread> :o
#3864 [23:54] <VoxelHead> Boom.
#3865 [23:54] <ivorybishop> this is the help channel, right?
#3866 [23:54] <thig> yes
#3867 [23:54] <thig> lol
#3868 [23:54] <ivorybishop> or the shrug channel?
#3869 [23:54] <ivorybishop> lol
#3870 [23:55] <ivorybishop> I have never played minecraft at all, does it have an "offline" mode? not showing in the options
#3871 [23:55] <xales> Oh, xolotl, by the way, if you are a current Ubuntu user (I forget, if you ever told me) and don't want to deal with Unity/whatever garbage in the future, check out http://crunchbanglinux.org/ - it's a nice base to install whatever you want, if you don't want to just do that from Ubuntu base
#3872 [23:55] <xales> ivorybishop: There is single player, if that's what you mean
#3873 [23:55] <thig> if you think an ant is small,wait till you see voxes penus
#3874 [23:55] <xales> "Offline mode" lets you play single player while not connected to the Internet
#3875 [23:55] <ivorybishop> where do i download the single player version. i think i have a multiplayer only or something
#3876 [23:56] <ivorybishop> or i am doing something wrong perhaps?
#3877 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> You can't get the single player files, or any minecraft files at all, if you're not premium, or paid.
#3878 [23:56] <ivorybishop> ahhh
#3879 [23:56] <thig> you have to pay for minecraft
#3880 [23:56] <ivorybishop> screw that, it doesnt look that good, not enough to pay for it lol
#3881 [23:56] <ivorybishop> its like atari in 3d lol
#3882 [23:57] <thig> only twenty bucks to have it forever
#3883 [23:57] <ivorybishop> those bucks can go to a game with nice graphics too
#3884 [23:57] <bread> meh
#3885 [23:57] <bread> graphics aren't everything bro
#3886 [23:57] <Kealper> ivorybishop: if you base a game's worth solely on the way it looks, you're missing out on a lot of great games
#3887 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Because graphics makes the grame
#3888 [23:57] <relsqui> you can get a free nice texture pack to add to minecraft if the textures are all you care about :P
#3889 [23:57] <bread> ^^^^^
#3890 [23:57] * Remowylliams [Remowylliams@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3891 [23:57] <VoxelHead> ^##�*%$$^$#!**##
#3892 [23:57] <thig> ya,my graphics card is so bad,it cant run minecraft
#3893 [23:57] <bread> ...
#3894 [23:57] <relsqui> but if the textures are all you care about, go play a shitty game with pretty pictures ;)
#3895 [23:57] <bread> ^
#3896 [23:57] <xales> ^
#3897 [23:58] <bread> like Crysys
#3898 [23:58] <bread> er
#3899 [23:58] <ivorybishop> i play a lot of games without the best of graphics, but there are plenty of beautiful games with great gameplay as well
#3900 [23:58] <relsqui> lol
#3901 [23:58] <bread> Crysis
#3902 [23:58] <thig> crysis is actually kind of fun
#3903 [23:58] <ivorybishop> i mean, the original civ looks better lol
#3904 [23:58] <relsqui> man. really minor feature requests I have: remember the damn window size
#3905 [23:58] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3906 [23:58] <ivorybishop> where can i check out some nice graphic packs or whatever?
#3907 [23:59] <xales> Google, the forum, etc
#3908 [23:59] <Remowylliams> hello, is there a way to downgrade my client to 1.4? I need ot get on a 1.4 server and the 1.5_01 generates a bad packet id 115
#3909 [23:59] <bread> relsqui: mine rememebrs the window size
#3910 [23:59] <thig> where can i check out your mom
#3911 [23:59] <bread> Remowylliams: no
#3912 [23:59] <ivorybishop> google? real helpful asshole
#3913 [23:59] * xales kicked thig from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ...)
#3914 [23:59] <relsqui> :O mine doesn't
#3915 [23:59] <relsqui> bread: OS difference?
#3916 [23:59] <xales> Let me help
#3917 [23:59] <bread> relsqui: perhaps, I dunno :o
#3918 [23:59] * relsqui is on Vista
#3918 [23:59] <bread> ew
#3919 [23:59] <bread> :P
#3920 [23:59] * VoxelHead is on relsqui back with a brotha
#3920 [23:59] * thig [thig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3921 [23:59] <xales> D:
#3922 [23:59] <relsqui> hot