#1 [00:00] <thig> ill stop
#2 [00:00] <thig> just bored
#3 [00:00] <xales> You are correct, you will
#4 [00:00] <xales> I've already warned you about it, do not do it again
#5 [00:00] <xales> If you are bored, go play outside or something
#6 [00:00] <Remowylliams> bread: I just have to wait till my server provider can upgrade to 1.5_02 ?
#7 [00:00] <thig> you have?oh,sorry
#8 [00:00] <bread> Remowylliams: basically, yes.
#9 [00:00] <xales> Remowylliams: Unless you made your own backup copy of 1.4, you have to wait
#10 [00:01] <thig> i want to play minecraft sooooooooooo bad,its killing me
#11 [00:01] <Remowylliams> xales: I never had a chance to use 1.4
#12 [00:01] <bread> Yvan Eht Nioj
#13 [00:01] <xales> thig: This isn't a complaint channel, it's a help channel. Please don't just whine here, it won't help you
#14 [00:01] <xales> if you really care, go do something about it, don't be helpless
#15 [00:01] <thig> how do you use the red letters?
#16 [00:01] <relsqui> ^good life advice
#17 [00:02] * BizarreCake [BizarreCake@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#18 [00:02] <xales> I use the "red letters" by not using Mibbit
#19 [00:02] <bread> lol
#20 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> mibbit highlights any lines that includes your name in it by making the entire line red
#21 [00:02] <thig> you guys are kinjda mean you know that
#22 [00:03] <bread> >:|
#23 [00:03] <thig> not you bread
#24 [00:03] <xales> I wouldn't have to be if you listened to what we are saying
#25 [00:03] <bread> ^
#26 [00:05] * Needhelpnow [Needhelpnow@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#27 [00:05] <bread> >:|
#28 [00:05] <Needhelpnow> i need help/
#29 [00:05] <xales> With?
#30 [00:05] <bread> oh really
#31 [00:05] <bread> ?? asl
#32 [00:05] <bread> we
#33 [00:05] <VoxelHead> Bread: 32/male/down the back of the sofa.
#34 [00:05] <bread> er
#35 [00:05] <bread> ?? ask
#36 [00:05] <Needhelpnow> on retrieving my account...
#37 [00:05] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#38 [00:05] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#39 [00:05] <bread> lol vox
#40 [00:05] <Kealper> bread: 17/f/cali
#41 [00:05] <xales> Needhelpnow: "retrieving" how?
#42 [00:05] <bread> I cannot type worth shit today
#43 [00:05] <bread> :(
#44 [00:06] <Needhelpnow> i did once already, but i retryed and said "whopps something is wrong, we'll tinker with it later"
#45 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> The password recovery on the website is broken
#46 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> mollstam's been contacted
#47 [00:06] <Needhelpnow> What about logging in???
#48 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> No status on it yet
#49 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Logging in should still workk
#50 [00:07] <Needhelpnow> Hm...
#51 [00:07] <Needhelpnow> Forgot the re-done password evidently, as the one i thought it was didnt work...
#52 [00:07] <thig> :(
#53 [00:07] <Needhelpnow> So now i cant update. POO.
#54 [00:08] <Needhelpnow> Do gmail accounts get blocked by notch's spam filter???
#55 [00:09] <thig> i am sad
#56 [00:09] <xales> Needhelpnow: If you are expecting to email Notch directly, you will not get a response
#57 [00:09] <xales> thig: I'm really not going to say it again
#58 [00:09] <xales> do not just complain here
#59 [00:09] <thig> fine okay
#60 [00:09] <xales> if you really care, do something about it
#61 [00:09] <aetherian> odd
#62 [00:09] <thig> i just want xales to stop bothering me
#63 [00:10] <thig> please
#64 [00:10] <xales> how am I bothering _you_ exactly? ._.
#65 [00:10] <thig> telling me what to do constantly
#66 [00:10] <xales> ...
#67 [00:11] * aetherian laughs
#67 [00:11] <thig> what,what mow
#68 [00:11] <xales> If you don't want to follow the channel rules, then don't come here
#69 [00:11] <aetherian> chuckles, moreso, but whatever.
#70 [00:12] <thig> im just gonna go over here
#71 [00:13] <bread> you do that
#72 [00:14] * Razorflame [Razorflame@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#73 [00:14] * Liraxus [Liraxus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#74 [00:15] <Needhelpnow> are saves accessible by other accounts on the same computer???
#75 [00:16] <xales> Yes
#76 [00:16] <Needhelpnow> Alright...
#77 [00:16] <Needhelpnow> Well, thank you guys.
#78 [00:17] <aetherian> thou art welcomed
#79 [00:18] <Needhelpnow> Very much. It's too bad Minecraft's Official Support team only consists of a few, while their problems consist of hundreds...
#80 [00:18] <xales> ._.
#81 [00:18] <xales> Ignorance is bliss?
#82 [00:18] <aetherian> what
#83 [00:18] <aetherian> I guess
#84 [00:18] * aetherian le ignorant
#84 [00:18] * Sazandora [Sazandora@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#85 [00:18] <xales> Mojang doesn't provide any support beyond account issues
#86 [00:19] <bread> Ignorance _is_ bliss.
#87 [00:19] <xales> unless he was referring to us, in which case, as the site where he found the Mibbit link here clearly said, we aren't official
#88 [00:19] <aetherian> ignorance is bliss for those who know.
#89 [00:19] <bread> lol
#90 [00:21] * Jmancino2 [Jmancino2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#91 [00:21] <Razorflame> Mojang needs more technical support for problems in game, not account issues.
#92 [00:21] <Razorflame> In order to be more successful than they are now
#93 [00:21] <aetherian> how can...
#94 [00:22] <aetherian> I think they're pretty bloody successful
#95 [00:22] <xales> I disagree
#96 [00:22] <xales> Many companies outsource tech support to the community
#97 [00:22] <aetherian> oh phew
#98 [00:22] <bread> fuck yeah community
#99 [00:22] <aetherian> WHOO
#100 [00:22] <xales> Especially for an indie company like Mojang, it's the best way to go
#101 [00:22] <Razorflame> I see
#102 [00:25] * Razorflame [Razorflame@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#103 [00:26] <dopeghoti> If ignorance is bliss, I clearly know too much.
#104 [00:27] <xales> ^
#105 [00:29] <bread> lol
#106 [00:39] * LG_Legacy [LG_Legacy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#107 [00:43] * Guest75130 [Guest75130@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#108 [00:49] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#109 [00:52] * Liraxus [Liraxus@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#110 [00:55] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#111 [00:55] <aetherian> I'm here, vox.
#112 [00:59] * ionface [ionface@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#113 [00:59] * blahhh [blahhh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#114 [01:01] <blahhh> howdy.... version 1.5.1 here, linux jar file, im playing offline but minecraft/java constantly downloading.... my inet is only 11kbs at the momment..... will it stop/whats it doing??
#115 [01:01] <Kealper> what do you mean by constantly downloading?
#116 [01:02] <_303> maybe it's just a blackscreen
#117 [01:02] * Count [Count@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#118 [01:02] <blahhh> Kealper: constantly connected and downloading from some amazon ip/address... be doing it for over an hour....
#119 [01:03] <xales> blahhh: Have you tried what I said, and actually logging in instead of using "play offline"?
#120 [01:03] <blahhh> xales: ya have to login to play offline or login with false credentials.....what do you mean??
#121 [01:04] <xales> Did you buy the game?
#122 [01:04] <blahhh> yes
#123 [01:04] <xales> What username?
#124 [01:04] <blahhh> iflema
#125 [01:04] <xales> so...login with that?
#126 [01:04] <xales> ._.
#127 [01:04] <blahhh> and watch it download somemore??
#128 [01:05] <xales> If you aren't going to try what we say, why are you even bothering to ask?
#129 [01:05] <xales> Just try it ._.
#130 [01:05] <blahhh> THATS WHAT I DO
#131 [01:05] <xales> That's not what you told me in #minecraft
#132 [01:05] <blahhh> loud enough??
#133 [01:06] <xales> blahhh: what OS?
#134 [01:06] * blahhh wacks his troll pet god over the head
#134 [01:06] * MiLk [MiLk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#135 [01:06] <xales> ._.
#136 [01:06] <blahhh> so far it happens on arch andubuntu
#137 [01:07] <xales> ??> blahhh linux/reinst
#138 [01:07] <VoxelHead> blahhh: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#139 [01:07] <VoxelHead> blahhh: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#140 [01:07] <aetherian> ...
#141 [01:07] <Remowylliams> Ok got my server updated *cheers*
#142 [01:07] <aetherian> how many people are going to run that in a terminal
#143 [01:07] <aetherian> I mean really
#144 [01:07] <xales> aetherian: ...what?
#145 [01:07] <aetherian> most people use terminal emulators, I thought
#146 [01:08] <Remowylliams> first time on this server I can login, my mate can login but she can't break anything up. but she can pickup my blocks
#147 [01:08] <xales> Remowylliams: Move away from the spawn
#148 [01:08] <Remowylliams> ah
#149 [01:08] <Kealper> aetherian: ctrl+alt+f1 = boom
#150 [01:08] <aetherian> Kealper: I said most people
#151 [01:08] <blahhh> VoxelHead: it happened on arch... so i installed on ubuntu = samething, is ther a linux bug that requires you to install the reinstall to use???
#152 [01:08] <VoxelHead> a shrubbery
#153 [01:08] <aetherian> precisely, vox.
#154 [01:09] <xales> blahhh: VoxelHead is a bot, and it's not a known problem
#155 [01:09] <xales> specifically, nobody else has the issue
#156 [01:09] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#157 [01:09] <xales> why don't you just try it rather than questioning everthing?
#158 [01:09] <xales> ._.
#159 [01:09] <blahhh> lol i feel like one of the noobson the ubuntuirc channel lol
#160 [01:09] <xales> derp
#161 [01:09] <blahhh> xales: so its a bug??
#162 [01:10] <xales> probably not
#163 [01:10] <xales> it's probably an issue with your computer or Internet connection
#164 [01:10] <xales> because, once again, not a single other person has the issue
#165 [01:10] <blahhh> xales: os or computer??
#166 [01:10] <Remowylliams> xales: how far away does she have to go?
#167 [01:10] <xales> Remowylliams: Not _that_ far
#168 [01:10] <xales> it might be a sever-specific thing, build permission or something
#169 [01:11] <Remowylliams> ok then still a problem hmm
#170 [01:11] <xales> you should ask someone on the server
#171 [01:11] <Remowylliams> she's in ops
#172 [01:11] <xales> are you running the server?
#173 [01:11] <Remowylliams> xales: Im the snot nosed beginner running the server
#174 [01:11] <xales> is she able to play on other servers?
#175 [01:11] <Remowylliams> yes
#176 [01:12] <Remowylliams> xales: yes
#177 [01:12] <Remowylliams> xales: this is a brand new server
#178 [01:12] <xales> are you running it off your computer, or is it with a company?
#179 [01:13] <Remowylliams> the setting is peaceful currently
#180 [01:14] <xales> err, what?
#181 [01:14] * genshou [genshou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#182 [01:14] <Remowylliams> xales: it's with a jestservers
#183 [01:14] <xales> if it's an issue with your server specifically, you should probably contact their support then, who can better diagnose the issue
#184 [01:15] <Remowylliams> xales: ok thanks
#185 [01:16] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#186 [01:21] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#187 [01:34] <xales> Kealper
#188 [01:34] <xales> I forget how to do color codes so that they blink :<
#189 [01:34] * kaane [kaane@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#190 [01:42] * hassifa [hassifa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#191 [01:43] * Whitetiger1kitkit [Whitetiger1kitkit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#192 [01:47] * Whitetiger1kitkit [Whitetiger1kitkit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#193 [01:50] * Elvang [Elvang@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#194 [01:51] <Elvang> About how big should the swap file be for a minecraft server with 16gb ram?
#195 [01:51] <Kealper> how much does the server have total for ram?
#196 [01:52] <Elvang> 16gb
#197 [01:52] <Elvang> Or you mean launching with?
#198 [01:52] <Kealper> ok if the machine has 16gb total ram, how much are you launching the server with?
#199 [01:52] <Elvang> Launching with 16000mb, so about 400mb short of 16gb
#200 [01:53] <Kealper> ehh...cuttin in a bit close lol
#201 [01:53] <Elvang> Not my choice :(
#202 [01:53] <Kealper> :/
#203 [01:53] <Elvang> Server owner isn't the most experienced
#204 [01:53] <Elvang> Tracking down lag issues, turns out he never properly setup swap on CentOS
#205 [01:53] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#206 [01:54] <Kealper> idk, as long as nothing else used a total of 400mb of ram it should not need swap :/
#207 [01:54] <Kealper> but
#208 [01:54] <Kealper> if it is lagging, it might be because it's going on to some swap :/
#209 [01:55] <Elvang> We're hoping its the swap thats causing the lag, cause we have no idea what else it could be atm <_<
#210 [01:55] <Kealper> launch it with like.... 15000M for ram then, and see if it still lags
#211 [01:56] <Elvang> Alright
#212 [01:56] <Kealper> how many people are on it? what sort of internet is it on? is it hosted at home or in a datacenter?
#213 [01:56] <Elvang> datacenter
#214 [01:56] <Kealper> what sort of cpu does it have, what speed is the ram?
#215 [01:56] <Elvang> Max player count is 75, lag though happens regardless of playercount
#216 [01:56] <Elvang> Ah hold on, I'll check what the speed and cpu are
#217 [01:57] <Elvang> Pretty sure it was an i7, he might have upgraded it again though...
#218 [01:57] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#219 [01:57] <Kealper> dedicated or vps?
#220 [01:57] <Elvang> Dedicated
#221 [01:58] <Kealper> hmm
#222 [01:58] <Kealper> what sort of lag? is it just a few seconds or is it like...30 seconds or more?
#223 [01:59] * Liraxus [Liraxus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#224 [01:59] <Elvang> Goes on for 3-5 minutes before a period of little to no lag
#225 [01:59] <Liraxus> Hey
#226 [02:00] <Liraxus> i want to modify the water animations
#227 [02:00] <Liraxus> how do i do so?
#228 [02:00] <Kealper> Liraxus: no idea, i don't even think it's possible without heavy client modification
#229 [02:00] <Kealper> it looks like those textures in the terrain.png are depreciated
#230 [02:01] <Liraxus> because they don't work
#231 [02:01] <Kealper> depreciated means disabled, going to be removed :/
#232 [02:02] <Liraxus> ill just check youtube
#233 [02:02] <Liraxus> youtube always saves my life.
#234 [02:02] <Kealper> bleh
#235 [02:02] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#236 [02:02] <AkiTensai> If your lucky they mean will be removed... at work depreciated means legacy and legacy means junk we can't break.
#237 [02:03] <Kealper> AkiTensai: XD
#238 [02:09] * EmpiresBane [EmpiresBane@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#239 [02:10] * cbreaker [cbreaker@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#240 [02:16] * World [World@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#241 [02:18] * AkiTensai waits for It to rename to Awesome.
#241 [02:18] <It> nah, awesome's registered
#242 [02:19] <AkiTensai> Ah. Won't even let you touch the nick?
#243 [02:19] <It> I don't use other people's nicks
#244 [02:19] <It> that's just not nice
#245 [02:20] <It> besides, its his primary nick
#246 [02:20] <AkiTensai> Fair enough. I just wanted to see "It is now known as Awesome." Quite different if you know who that person is.
#247 [02:22] <It> lol
#248 [02:22] <It> * It is now known as TheBestHumanEver.
#249 [02:25] <AkiTensai> "It was human?" "But of course it was. It's a ninja after all." "It was a ninja too?!" "Ya, Awesome, isn't It?"
#250 [02:25] * It is intrinsically awesome
#250 [02:26] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#251 [02:29] * Remowylliams [Remowylliams@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#252 [02:32] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#253 [02:38] * Vasher [Vasher@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#254 [02:38] * Patze [Patze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#255 [02:43] * Fred [Fred@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#256 [02:50] <aetherian> hmm
#257 [02:52] * Foirzie [Foirzie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#258 [02:55] * frostshock [frostshock@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#259 [02:55] <frostshock> Can someone help me out?
#260 [02:55] <frostshock> My game freezes when it trys to update
#261 [02:55] <frostshock> it stops at downloading packages
#262 [02:58] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#263 [03:00] <aetherian> patience
#264 [03:00] <aetherian> is a virtue
#265 [03:01] <aetherian> not seen in this channel
#266 [03:01] <_303> it's no better in modding channels
#267 [03:01] <_303> except we fling ?ask at them if they don't elaborate immediately
#268 [03:01] * SlashLife^m [SlashLife^m@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#269 [03:02] * kaane [kaane@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#270 [03:02] <kaane> .players
#271 [03:02] <kaane> damn, sry
#272 [03:03] * Netu_ [Netu_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#273 [03:03] * Juze [Juze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#274 [03:07] * j4mie [j4mie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#275 [03:13] * Lee_ [Lee_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#276 [03:13] <Lee_> Hi
#277 [03:13] <Lee_> Please can anyone tell me if they have worldedit working in 1.5 server yet
#278 [03:14] <_303> is bukkit even updated?
#279 [03:15] <Lee_> Yes someone here told me where to fins the new bukkit for 1.5 and otter plugins work
#280 [03:15] <Lee_> But worldedit wouldn't work properly
#281 [03:17] * Szernex [Szernex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#282 [03:17] <_303> Lee_: tried asking in #bukkit or #worledit?
#283 [03:17] <_303> worldedit* I keep misspelling it
#284 [03:18] * OmegaVesko [OmegaVesko@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#285 [03:24] * TheBix [TheBix@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#286 [03:24] * Lee_ [Lee_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#287 [03:39] * Kimax [Kimax@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#288 [03:46] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#289 [03:51] * Sqozza [Sqozza@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#290 [03:59] * Dj_kimax [Dj_kimax@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#291 [04:00] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#292 [04:00] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: whois them?
#293 [04:01] <VoxelHead> 69
#294 [04:01] <NotiCon> that many?
#295 [04:05] * Kurimus [Kurimus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#296 [04:07] * Kxania [Kxania@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#297 [04:08] <Kxania> Hi.
#298 [04:08] <Kxania> I have a question.
#299 [04:08] <_303> ask away
#300 [04:08] <NotiCon> you dare not ask it
#301 [04:09] <Kxania> xD
#302 [04:09] <It> <_303> except we fling ?ask at them if they don't elaborate immediately
#303 [04:09] <Kxania> It is impossible to connect to your own MC server via your IPv4 address, correct?
#304 [04:09] <It> to be fair, 1/3 of all text lines sent to this channel consist of something of the ilk of "I have a question"
#305 [04:09] <It> no
#306 [04:09] <It> its very possible
#307 [04:09] <Kxania> Hm
#308 [04:10] <It> you can do it with localhost (127.0.0.1), your lan address (usually 192.168.something), and your wan ip
#309 [04:10] <It> usually
#310 [04:10] <Kxania> Ever since I bought MC (November) I've been having shitty problems setting up a server.
#311 [04:10] <It> the lan address doesn't always apply
#312 [04:10] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#313 [04:11] <Kxania> So it would be possible to connect to something such as 118.210.200.*** ?
#314 [04:11] <NotiCon> yup
#315 [04:11] <It> click this link - www.whatismyip.com
#316 [04:11] <NotiCon> but if your server is in the same network as your own computer then connect to the network ip of the server
#317 [04:12] <Kxania> Yeahh.....
#318 [04:12] <Kxania> But you can't if it's on the same computer?
#319 [04:12] <It> you can do it a number of different ways, each useful for different troubleshooting
#320 [04:12] <It> use 127.0.0.1
#321 [04:12] <NotiCon> if its on the same computer use that ^
#322 [04:12] <Kxania> because yeah, I can't connect via my IP address
#323 [04:13] <Kxania> I have to use 192.168.2.5/localhos.t
#324 [04:13] <It> is the server actually running
#325 [04:13] <m0nk> portforwarded?
#326 [04:13] <_303> ports forwarded etc?
#327 [04:13] <Kxania> I have tried, I'm actually about to put the comp in a dmz.
#328 [04:13] <Kxania> lols brb.
#329 [04:13] * It enters movie watching mode
#329 [04:13] * It selects a movie
#329 [04:14] <_303> * It amsg aka annoymsg
#330 [04:15] <Kxania> Oh.. k cool it's working
#331 [04:15] <Kxania> Can someone else test if it's working, like, try connecting?
#332 [04:15] <_303> give link
#333 [04:15] <_303> err ip
#334 [04:15] <Kxania> 118.210.200.130:25565
#335 [04:16] * Kxania [Kxania@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#336 [04:16] <lemon-rev> kxania type !check
#337 [04:16] <Kxania> Wow whoops
#338 [04:16] <_303> working here
#339 [04:16] <Kxania> !check 118.210.200.130
#340 [04:16] <aetherian> wat
#341 [04:16] <aetherian> wait what
#342 [04:16] <NotiCon> lol
#343 [04:16] <Kxania> -_-
#344 [04:16] <NotiCon> n1 AuBot
#345 [04:16] <aetherian> failbot .___.
#346 [04:16] <Kxania> aahaahaha
#347 [04:16] <aetherian> kealper! fix it!
#348 [04:17] <Kxania> It's working, atleast :3
#349 [04:17] <aetherian> pester pester nag nag
#350 [04:18] <It> KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER KEAPLER
#351 [04:18] <It> FUUU
#352 [04:18] <aetherian> keapler...
#353 [04:18] <It> KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER KEALPER
#354 [04:18] <NotiCon> needs more caps and spam
#355 [04:18] <aetherian> suh pam?
#356 [04:18] <NotiCon> Kealper: you sleeping? better wake up
#357 [04:19] <aetherian> last seen 135 minutes ago D:
#358 [04:19] <_303> !seen Kealper
#359 [04:19] <aetherian> he's probably playing portal 2 :|
#360 [04:19] <GreyBot> I last saw Kealper (kealper@xales.info) 2hrs 16mins 3secs ago, talking in #minecrafthelp. They were saying: AkiTensai: XD
#361 [04:19] <aetherian> I. Just. Said. That.
#362 [04:19] <aetherian> asdf
#363 [04:19] <NotiCon> pretty much
#364 [04:19] <_303> trust an opped bot more
#365 [04:19] <NotiCon> i dont
#366 [04:20] <_303> two bots even
#367 [04:20] <aetherian> look where that got us with aubot
#368 [04:20] <NotiCon> whois the other bot?
#369 [04:20] <aetherian> >:
#370 [04:20] <_303> aubot
#371 [04:20] <_303> they both reply
#372 [04:20] <aetherian> vox is the most reliable bot
#373 [04:20] <aetherian> when he's here
#374 [04:20] * peru_ [peru_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#375 [04:20] <It> don't forget about vo
#376 [04:20] <It> x
#377 [04:20] <aetherian> .___.\
#378 [04:20] <_303> VoxelHead: when was the last time you saw Kealper?
#379 [04:20] <It> he's a bit loopy but he counts
#380 [04:20] <NotiCon> VoxelHead is awesome
#381 [04:20] <aetherian> _303: he's not here
#382 [04:20] <aetherian> asdf
#383 [04:20] <Kxania> On an unrelated note:
#384 [04:20] <It> how exactly can a bot not be here
#385 [04:21] <Kxania> Is it possible to embed java into a webpage..
#386 [04:21] <It> i've always wondered
#387 [04:21] <aetherian> he's sleeping
#388 [04:21] <Kxania> it is, right?
#389 [04:21] <It> yes it is
#390 [04:21] <Kxania> Hmm/
#391 [04:21] <aetherian> it is
#392 [04:21] <It> see the in-browser minecraft client
#393 [04:21] <Kxania> Someone should try embed the minecraft_server jar to a site.
#394 [04:21] <Kxania> I might try that.
#395 [04:22] <NotiCon> uhm you know you can play minecraft on the minecraft.net site?
#396 [04:22] <Kxania> Yes.
#397 [04:22] <aetherian> the idiocy, I can't take it.
#398 [04:22] <Kxania> Are you talking about me?
#399 [04:22] <aetherian> no
#400 [04:23] <aetherian> well
#401 [04:23] <Kxania> -_-
#402 [04:23] <aetherian> :D
#403 [04:23] <m0nk> why cant i pick up blocks on his server?
#404 [04:23] <aetherian> on who's server
#405 [04:23] <m0nk> Kxania
#406 [04:23] <Kxania> I was saying, for example, if the minecraft_server program was embedded into a webpage, you'd be able to run a minecraft server from, say... a ps3, and just leave it running
#407 [04:23] <m0nk> and the cows are lagging
#408 [04:23] <Kxania> Then play minecraft on your pc.
#409 [04:24] <aetherian> I don't...
#410 [04:24] <aetherian> I didn't know that the xbox came with the JRE...?
#411 [04:24] <It> ps3's probably don't have what it takes to run a minecraft server
#412 [04:24] <NotiCon> aetherian: he said ps3
#413 [04:24] <aetherian> oh
#414 [04:25] <aetherian> I can't read, I see.
#415 [04:25] <Kxania> Although I hate PS3 with a passion, that would be pretty impressive.
#416 [04:25] <NotiCon> but then again a ps3 is just for playing ps3 games
#417 [04:25] <NotiCon> not for running java
#418 [04:25] <Kxania> But it could work
#419 [04:25] <Kxania> I might try it some day.
#420 [04:25] <aetherian> I don't...
#421 [04:25] <aetherian> no.
#422 [04:25] <NotiCon> does java even support ps3?
#423 [04:25] <aetherian> just no.
#424 [04:25] <It> it might be possible
#425 [04:26] <Kxania> -_-
#426 [04:26] <Kxania> Exactly
#427 [04:26] <aetherian> the specifications are far too low
#428 [04:26] <It> but running a minecraft server on a ps3 is a horrible idea
#429 [04:26] <Kxania> Are you kidding me?
#430 [04:26] <aetherian> for running a good minecraft server
#431 [04:26] <It> they have like 512MB ram
#432 [04:26] <aetherian> 256 I think
#433 [04:26] <It> there is no such thing as a game console with good specs. Read it. No. Such. Thing.
#434 [04:26] <Kxania> run a shit minecraft server then
#435 [04:27] <aetherian> then it'd be pointless
#436 [04:27] <Kxania> ahaahha
#437 [04:27] <Kxania> Nah I'm just f**king with ya
#438 [04:27] <aetherian> if it can even run java
#439 [04:27] <aetherian> wait
#440 [04:27] <aetherian> Kxania
#441 [04:27] <Kxania> But thanks for helping with the server problems
#442 [04:27] <Kxania> Yes?
#443 [04:27] <aetherian> was that a "lol i troll u"
#444 [04:27] <It> np
#445 [04:27] <Kxania> No.
#446 [04:27] <Kxania> No it was not.
#447 [04:27] <Kxania> Fuck trolls.
#448 [04:27] <aetherian> odd
#449 [04:27] <aetherian> nonono
#450 [04:27] <aetherian> you're missing the damned point
#451 [04:27] <aetherian> argh
#452 [04:27] <NotiCon> feed the trolls!
#453 [04:27] <Kxania> I was just putting a shitty idea out there that I knew wouldn't go anywhere.
#454 [04:28] <NotiCon> they are so cute and nice and sweet
#455 [04:28] * aetherian away in a puff of smoke
#455 [04:28] <aetherian> le poof
#456 [04:28] <NotiCon> le vanish
#457 [04:28] <Kxania> Who is from Aus here, anyway?
#458 [04:28] <NotiCon> you are?
#459 [04:29] <Kxania> Yep
#460 [04:29] <It> ps3s are somewhat suited to massively parallel problems
#461 [04:29] <NotiCon> not java
#462 [04:29] <m0nk> austria or australia?
#463 [04:29] <It> and even then, a decent computer with a decent graphics card today would blow one away
#464 [04:30] <NotiCon> It: depends one which kind of problem you have
#465 [04:30] <It> theres a reason they cost 1/4 the price of a high end desktop
#466 [04:30] <Kxania> Australia.
#467 [04:30] <m0nk> that'd explain the lagg.
#468 [04:30] <Kxania> I said that before xD
#469 [04:30] <aetherian> oh snap
#470 [04:31] <aetherian> the windows average purchase for the humble bundle just keeps going down
#471 [04:31] <NotiCon> noes?
#472 [04:34] <Kxania> How hard is it to set up a dynds type thing for a server?
#473 [04:35] <It> and not too hard
#474 [04:35] <It> but it won't help you if you can't access the server on an external ip
#475 [04:36] <It> it doesn't magically bypass that stuff
#476 [04:37] <Kxania> Wait, what?
#477 [04:37] <Kxania> I can get onto my server via 118.210.200.130 now.
#478 [04:38] <Kxania> so all I would have to do was redirect that to a "url" type thing through a dynds?
#479 [04:39] <Kxania> A hostname **
#480 [04:40] <It> the hostname redirects to the ip address
#481 [04:40] <Kxania> yeah
#482 [04:40] * Sazandora [Sazandora@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#483 [04:40] <It> its a bit complicated how dns works
#484 [04:41] <Kxania> I'm trying to set one up now, so... ya
#485 [04:41] <It> but we know what you mean and it will work
#486 [04:41] <Kxania> awesome.
#487 [04:44] <Kxania> Alrighty
#488 [04:45] <Kxania> M0nk
#489 [04:45] * m0nk2 [m0nk2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#490 [04:45] <Kxania> Did you quit or get DC'd?
#491 [04:45] <m0nk2> d
#492 [04:45] <m0nk2> c
#493 [04:45] <m0nk2> '
#494 [04:45] <m0nk2> d
#495 [04:45] <Kxania> Hmm
#496 [04:45] <Kxania> Do you know why?
#497 [04:45] <m0nk2> i couldnt mine anything.
#498 [04:45] <Kxania> :/
#499 [04:45] <m0nk2> java net expception something
#500 [04:45] <Kxania> Oh..
#501 [04:45] <Kxania> hmm
#502 [04:46] <Kxania> Can you please try reconnect
#503 [04:46] <m0nk2> k
#504 [04:46] <Kxania> through inforgamtion.dyndns.org
#505 [04:46] <NotiCon> D:
#506 [04:47] <g> GreyVulpine: Has my bot been posting the Mojang Community feed in here?
#507 [04:48] <NotiCon> !seen McPlusPlus
#508 [04:48] <GreyBot> I last saw McPlusPlus (root@irc.pearsoncoles.com) 5hrs 34mins 58secs ago, talking in #minecrafthelp. They were saying: [MojangCommunity] A little advert I made for the server I play on! (Anonymous) - Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:09:04 +0000
#509 [04:48] <g> hmm
#510 [04:48] <g> I think I know what the bug is
#511 [04:48] <g> it's related to the one that makes it say stuff twice
#512 [04:49] <NotiCon> silly features
#513 [04:49] <Kxania> Sweet, it worked.
#514 [04:49] <g> No, I think I just messed up an if
#515 [04:49] <g> :P
#516 [04:49] <NotiCon> thats possible
#517 [04:49] <Kxania> Noticon
#518 [04:49] <NotiCon> isnt here atm
#519 [04:50] * TheBix [TheBix@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#520 [04:50] <Kxania> aha
#521 [04:50] <NotiCon> sup?
#522 [04:50] * Foirzie [Foirzie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#523 [04:50] <Kxania> Oh, just wanted to tell you I got it working.
#524 [04:50] <Kxania> The Dyndns thing, and the server in general
#525 [04:51] <Kxania> and just to thank you for helping out.
#526 [04:51] <NotiCon> wasnt it It that helped you on that one?
#527 [04:51] <Kxania> Hm
#528 [04:51] <Kxania> Well thanks it
#529 [04:51] <Kxania> :P it.
#530 [04:52] <Kxania> Should I download bukkit, or leave it vanilla?
#531 [04:52] <NotiCon> iirc no bukkit for 1.5
#532 [04:53] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kxania: ask in #bukkit
#533 [04:53] <Kxania> Okey dokey
#534 [04:53] <Kxania> thanks agaiin everyone!
#535 [04:53] * Kxania [Kxania@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#536 [04:54] <g> There is a bukkit for 1.5
#537 [04:54] <g> lol
#538 [04:54] <g> I can't see what the bug is >.>
#539 [04:55] <NotiCon> then itsnt a bug but a feature o:
#540 [04:55] <g> It may be time to refactor
#541 [04:55] <g> No, it's a bug
#542 [04:55] <g> It's a bot I wrote :P
#543 [04:55] <NotiCon> mmm refactor
#544 [04:56] <g> I knew I'd have to refactor at some point
#545 [04:56] <g> so
#546 [04:56] <NotiCon> what is it made in?
#547 [04:56] <g> Python
#548 [04:56] * Drool [Drool@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#549 [04:56] <NotiCon> gl with that
#550 [04:56] <g> I like Python :P
#551 [04:57] <NotiCon> i tried it once
#552 [04:57] <NotiCon> couldnt get it to do what i wanted it to do :(
#553 [04:57] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :g: then why's it called McPlusPlus Q_Q
#554 [04:57] <g> Despite the fact that it has anal indentation rules
#555 [04:57] <g> Protip: Use spaces, not tabs
#556 [04:58] <g> Because I originally wrote it for #mc++
#557 [05:00] <g> NotiCon: It takes practise
#558 [05:00] <g> You need to start basic
#559 [05:00] <g> print("Hello, world!")
#560 [05:01] <g> the_world_is_flat = True
#561 [05:01] <g> if the_world_is_flat:
#562 [05:01] <g> print("Don't fall off!")
#563 [05:01] <g> etc
#564 [05:03] <NotiCon> g: most likely i took my hands too full at the first time
#565 [05:03] <g> Yeah
#566 [05:03] <g> That's what I thought
#567 [05:03] * Ehtyar [Ehtyar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#568 [05:04] <NotiCon> shouldnt start out with sockets as the first thing
#569 [05:05] <g> No, :P
#570 [05:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :ugh
#571 [05:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Python sockets
#572 [05:05] <g> I've seen worse
#573 [05:05] <g> Winsock
#574 [05:05] <g> :P
#575 [05:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Made bareable only by twisted :P
#576 [05:05] <g> Yes, I use twisted heavily in teh bot
#577 [05:05] <g> the*
#578 [05:05] <g> And mechanize
#579 [05:06] <g> And, of course, Universal Feed Parser
#580 [05:06] <NotiCon> g: i did however work with winsock in a school assignment D:
#581 [05:06] <g> I hate winsock
#582 [05:06] <iflema> xales: i know it would not accomplish anything, but so i could say... yes sir i did it, i did it (linux/reinst) same same. Been away for a few hours log back in same same... still downloading in offline mode (1.5.1) and console has no indication of why/what for.... http://pastebin.com/XszCB8Bm
#583 [05:07] <_303> you shouldn't post your username and sessionid publicl
#584 [05:07] * pico [pico@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#585 [05:07] * iflema shrugs
#585 [05:08] * SlashLife^m [SlashLife^m@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#586 [05:08] <g> Try running as root
#587 [05:08] <iflema> lol
#588 [05:08] <g> No, really
#589 [05:08] <g> :P
#590 [05:08] * g points at McPlusPlus's ident
#590 [05:09] * GreyVulpine pokes iflema.
#590 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Try this:
#591 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> sudo chmod go=u /dev/input/event*
#592 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Then try running minecraft again
#593 [05:11] <iflema> GreyVulpine: i luv sudo but its no installed here... hangon
#594 [05:17] <iflema> GreyVulpine: ive got internet activity (constant) in offlinemode... anyideas. my internet plan has slowed forafew days, 11KB/sec, but surely it would have finished whatever its doing by now... didi mention "offline"
#595 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> iflema - Huh?
#596 [05:19] * Morrolan [Morrolan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#597 [05:21] <g> offline mode
#598 [05:21] <g> what?
#599 [05:21] <g> You only get that if you're not online at all
#600 [05:21] <iflema> g: or you enter an invalid user/pass
#601 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> I'm confused as to what the problem really is..
#602 [05:22] <iflema> offline = singleplayer
#603 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> You give me that error log, I give you a possible solution that I know works for the most part
#604 [05:23] <iflema> GreyVulpine: it stoped the input event error but not the constant downloading during single player... is that normal?
#605 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Ah, nope.
#606 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Try an rm -rf ~/.minecraft/
#607 [05:23] <iflema> exactly
#608 [05:24] <iflema> GreyVulpine: it happens on every distro i have....
#609 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Okay then, could you tell us what kind of internet connection you're on?
#610 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> How reliable is it?
#611 [05:25] <iflema> 900+ KB/s currently capped for a few days @ 11KB/s, its been going for over an hour
#612 [05:26] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#613 [05:26] <NotiCon> thats speed
#614 [05:26] <NotiCon> not reliablilty
#615 [05:26] <aetherian> a reliable dial up :D
#616 [05:26] <iflema> i sign in and it starts
#617 [05:27] <iflema> no indication of what its doing, lioke i said/typed 11KB/s for more than an hour..... offline apparently..
#618 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Does it display any file progress?
#619 [05:28] <iflema> no
#620 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Where is it stuck?
#621 [05:28] <iflema> i can play while its going on
#622 [05:28] <iflema> ??
#623 [05:28] <iflema> its not
#624 [05:28] <iflema> i stop minecraft the downlopading stops
#625 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. constant downloading..?
#626 [05:29] <iflema> if i enter invalid user/pass, hit offline... still happens.... savvy
#627 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> Why are you entering an invalid user/pass?
#628 [05:30] <g> ^
#629 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> And what happens exactly?
#630 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> How do you know it's downloading something?
#631 [05:31] <iflema> GreyVulpine: same if i enter valid user/pass.... the pointisconstant downloading.... surely @ 11KB/s it would be finished... what everits doing... woulnt yousay
#632 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> How is it downloading?
#633 [05:32] * iflema using a cricket bat.. oh hang on.... butter cake...
#633 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Usually when minecraft launches, you get a "Downloading" prompt right after login.
#634 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> It looks like this:
#635 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> http://i52.tinypic.com/jfhf8o.png
#636 [05:33] <iflema> its not i know
#637 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Is that what you're talking about?
#638 [05:33] <iflema> no
#639 [05:33] <iflema> im @ 1.5.1
#640 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Then how do you know it's downloading something?
#641 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> That's where I'm a little confused
#642 [05:34] <iflema> GreyVulpine: because on 11KB/s other coms on network cant do shit while minecraft runs
#643 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Now I'm even more confused. The minecraft client doesn't use any bandwidth after the initial download/updates
#644 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't download anything while you play\
#645 [05:36] <iflema> one would think so
#646 [05:37] <g> I added some special debug code to the bot. I hope it helps >.>
#647 [05:37] * GreyVulpine blinks
#647 [05:37] <g> ~quit
#648 [05:37] <g> Also
#649 [05:37] <g> If you have any quotes for my quits
#650 [05:37] <g> let me know
#651 [05:37] <g> :P
#652 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Here's a box of screws, go screw yourself?
#653 [05:38] * raindog [raindog@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#654 [05:39] * iflema [iflema@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#655 [05:40] * Freddy [Freddy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#656 [05:40] <g> heh
#657 [05:40] <g> that's a good one
#658 [05:40] * g addsa
#658 [05:40] <g> adds*
#659 [05:42] * McPlusPlus [McPlusPlus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#660 [05:42] * McPlusPlus [McPlusPlus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#661 [05:43] <g> GreyVulpine: Is it +q again? >.>
#662 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#663 [05:43] <g> the bot
#664 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so...
#665 [05:43] <g> It didn't say anything
#666 [05:43] <g> and console says it did
#667 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Where.. is the +q list
#668 [05:44] <g> do /mode #minecrafthelp q
#669 [05:44] <g> for a list
#670 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> /mode #minecrafthelp q does nothing
#671 [05:44] <g> What client are you?
#672 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> hmm
#673 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> mIRC
#674 [05:45] <g> 728: | [0] g, [1] #minecrafthelp, [2] q, [3] McPlusPlus!*@*, [4] xales!xales@xales.info, [5] 1303441994
#675 [05:45] <g> It is, yes
#676 [05:45] <g> McPlusPlus!*@*
#677 [05:45] <g> lol, mibbit thinks +q is owner
#678 [05:45] <g> I usually use mirc though
#679 [05:45] * GreyVulpine has to run, will figure out how to list q in mIRC later..
#679 [05:45] <g> but that stuff shows up in the server window
#680 [05:45] <NotiCon> g: +q chanmode for a user is owner
#681 [05:45] <g> Yeah, but not here
#682 [05:46] <NotiCon> but not all networks supports it
#683 [05:46] <g> It's quiet mode here
#684 [05:46] * g thanks grey
#684 [05:46] <NotiCon> so if mibbit doesnt know about it and havent taken care of it it lists it as default
#685 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> Oh, it shows up in thte status window
#686 [05:46] <g> Next time a feed updates,
#687 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> not thet channel when I do it
#688 [05:46] <g> it'll memo me with some info about it
#689 [05:46] <g> so that should help
#690 [05:46] * Elvang [Elvang@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#691 [05:48] <g> ~stfu
#692 [05:54] * Szernex [Szernex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#693 [06:04] * TheBix [TheBix@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#694 [06:12] * OmegaVesko [OmegaVesko@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#695 [06:18] * Szernex [Szernex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#696 [06:23] * Kxania [Kxania@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#697 [06:23] <Kxania> Hey
#698 [06:23] <Kxania> Can someone please try to connect to my server?
#699 [06:24] <Kxania> inforgamtion.dyndns.org
#700 [06:24] <_303> !check inforgamtion.dyndns.org
#701 [06:24] * [E]MARANTz [[E]MARANTz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#702 [06:25] <Kxania> Hmm
#703 [06:26] <iflema> Kxania: im in
#704 [06:26] <iflema> using inforgam....org
#705 [06:26] <Kxania> yeah
#706 [06:26] <Kxania> Is there much lag?
#707 [06:32] <aetherian> night guys
#708 [06:33] <aetherian> it's 3:33:33 :D
#709 [06:33] <g> :P
#710 [06:33] <aetherian> the joy of staying up far too...... early
#711 [06:34] <g> Indeed
#712 [06:34] <g> And now
#713 [06:34] <NotiCon> aetherian: itsnt
#714 [06:34] <g> I MUST GO
#715 [06:34] <NotiCon> its 12:34
#716 [06:34] * g is off
#716 [06:34] <g> bai
#717 [06:35] <aetherian> I'm wondering if I should just stay up all night though
#718 [06:35] * AkiTensai [AkiTensai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#719 [06:35] <aetherian> nah, I forget if I have something tomorrow to do
#720 [06:48] <Kxania> iflema
#721 [06:48] <Kxania> you there?
#722 [06:48] <iflema> Kxania: uhuh
#723 [06:48] <Kxania> What were you saying about my website?
#724 [06:49] <iflema> Kxania: was just wondering what its for...
#725 [06:49] <Kxania> Oh.
#726 [06:49] <Kxania> It's a game information site.. hence: inforgamtion
#727 [06:49] <Kxania> I just review games and add-ons and other crap.
#728 [06:51] <iflema> Kxania: and there are better extensions than dyndns... oh hangon they changed that.. scratch that.. ive a .webhop.org looks better than dyndns :p
#729 [06:51] <Kxania> Not really.
#730 [06:52] <Kxania> Anything with a verb in it sounds like shit.
#731 [06:52] <iflema> Kxania: :)
#732 [06:52] * BarryCarlyon [BarryCarlyon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#733 [06:53] <Kxania> XD
#734 [06:54] * iflema google for HD textues..
#734 [06:55] * Kxania wait
#734 [06:55] * Kxania Oh it is me.
#734 [06:55] * Kxania /me
#734 [06:55] * iflema better stop minecraft first... lol...
#734 [06:56] * Kxania Have fun with that.
#734 [06:56] * Bio_Hazzard [Bio_Hazzard@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#735 [06:56] <iflema> heh
#736 [06:59] <iflema> Kxania: do you join your servers as localhost?
#737 [06:59] <iflema> Kxania: or 127.0.0.1
#738 [07:00] * iflema save some bits tis all....
#738 [07:02] * TheReddeH [TheReddeH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#739 [07:03] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#740 [07:12] * BarryCarlyon [BarryCarlyon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#741 [07:18] * trondkla [trondkla@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#742 [07:28] * Oerg866 [Oerg866@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#743 [07:29] * HorridHeny [HorridHeny@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#744 [07:29] <HorridHeny> hello
#745 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#746 [07:30] <HorridHeny> Just bought the game
#747 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> Congrats, and welcome
#748 [07:30] <HorridHeny> can play 5 min and then i get black screen :S
#749 [07:30] <HorridHeny> on windows 7 x64
#750 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> That's not good.
#751 [07:30] <HorridHeny> no :(
#752 [07:30] <HorridHeny> rly sad
#753 [07:31] * movah [movah@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#754 [07:31] <movah> hi
#755 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#756 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> HorridHeny - Try updating your video drivers, as well as jav
#757 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> java**
#758 [07:32] <HorridHeny> i just did
#759 [07:32] <movah> i have a problem with my inventory ..... it crashes every time i open it and move the mouse ... here's a video http://217.172.181.27/minecraft/mc.swf.html
#760 [07:32] <HorridHeny> is there a special java thing u have to download? ive got the standardv version
#761 [07:32] <movah> i hope someone can help me
#762 [07:33] * mib_5ps5c0 [mib_5ps5c0@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#763 [07:34] <mib_5ps5c0> Do I need the E-Mailaddress later, after registration?
#764 [07:34] <movah> yes
#765 [07:34] <HorridHeny> and also, i cannot write in the #minecraft channel, i get "Cannot send to channel"
#766 [07:34] <Morrolan> mib: If your forget your password, yes.
#767 [07:34] <movah> if you loose your pw
#768 [07:34] <Morrolan> HorridHeny: You need to register your nickname
#769 [07:35] <Morrolan> HorridHeny: And no, the normal Java runtime environnment should work fine.
#770 [07:35] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#771 [07:35] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#772 [07:35] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#773 [07:35] <iflema> mib_5ps5c0: ya can get an idea of what itis in your profile.... loginto minecraft.net and check profile
#774 [07:35] <Morrolan> movah: There was someone who had the same issue as you yesterday, dunno if he found a solution.
#775 [07:35] <HorridHeny> @Morrolan i already did, i have the standard java V6 update 24
#776 [07:37] <movah> ok ... if i die and loose all my items the bug should be gone or?
#777 [07:37] <Morrolan> Movah: No idea, really.
#778 [07:37] <movah> but i don't want to die :) to far away from spawn
#779 [07:38] <movah> ok i give it a try now ......
#780 [07:38] * Kxania [Kxania@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#781 [07:40] * phreak97 [phreak97@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#782 [07:40] <movah> i think i know what item it is now (the plates you can press)
#783 [07:40] <movah> if i go over them with the mouse the client crashes
#784 [07:41] <movah> i try to die now ! and it will be gone
#785 [07:41] <Morrolan> Oh, that would be nice if it's caused by this item. This way we could tell people how to fix it.
#786 [07:41] <movah> yeah do it
#787 [07:41] <movah> and i made another video where the client acts wired if you use them
#788 [07:42] <movah> but i didn't thought that they crash the client to if i open the inv
#789 [07:44] * linduxed [linduxed@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#790 [07:44] * m0nk [m0nk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#791 [07:45] <linduxed> hello everyone, i've got a weird issue when at certain times i get an all blue screen
#792 [07:45] <linduxed> i can still see my GUI, my hand/thing-i'm-holding-now
#793 [07:46] <Morrolan> Linduxed: A bluescreen of your OS? Or of Minecraft=
#794 [07:46] <Morrolan> Ah, of minecraft I guess then.
#795 [07:46] <linduxed> but everything else is light blue, i'm quite sure it's of the colour of the skybox
#796 [07:46] <Morrolan> Mulitplayer or singleplayer?
#797 [07:46] <linduxed> it happens pretty much everytime i wake up
#798 [07:46] <phreak97> anyone know of a server I can try joining to see if it's my client or just bad luck choosing servers?
#799 [07:46] <linduxed> multiplayer
#800 [07:47] <Morrolan> Linduxed: Does it fix itself if you wait for a while, or does it stay?
#801 [07:47] <linduxed> every time i wake up, most times i join the server
#802 [07:47] <linduxed> Morrolan: hmmm, i've waited for at most 5 minutes, and that doesn't help
#803 [07:47] <linduxed> Morrolan: the only thing that consistently does help is /kill
#804 [07:47] <Morrolan> Oh, getting better and better. :/
#805 [07:48] <Morrolan> Seems the server somehow doesn't send you the updated chunks when you wake up.
#806 [07:48] <Morrolan> As soon as you respawn though it does send them to you.
#807 [07:48] <linduxed> mhm, sounds about right
#808 [07:48] <Morrolan> Is the server you're on using bukkit or is it vanilla?
#809 [07:49] <linduxed> i guess vanilla
#810 [07:49] <linduxed> just downloaded the thing on the main page
#811 [07:49] <Morrolan> Ah, so it's a server you created, ok.
#812 [07:49] * linduxed is totally new to minecraft (think 1 day usage)
#812 [07:49] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#813 [07:51] <Morrolan> Did you try hosting it on another computer than the one you're playing on?
#814 [07:52] <linduxed> well currently it really isn't an option i think
#815 [07:54] <Morrolan> No other PC or laptop where you could try it?
#816 [07:54] <Morrolan> (Doesn't have to be a paid external hosting server)
#817 [07:55] <linduxed> well i could do some localhost action i guess
#818 [07:58] * Bio_Hazzard [Bio_Hazzard@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#819 [08:00] <movah> ok the bug is gone but i lost all my items..... (the stone slabs/or pressure plates were the bad gus)
#820 [08:00] * neobenedict [neobenedict@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#821 [08:00] <linduxed> Morrolan: here's basically what it looks like http://i.imgur.com/h35ZR.png
#822 [08:01] <linduxed> Morrolan: unfortunately with a pause screen, but you get the point
#823 [08:01] <Morrolan> movah: Ok, thanks for the research you did.
#824 [08:01] <movah> no problem only 2 wasted hours
#825 [08:02] <movah> i leave now and play somthing else bye and a good easter days
#826 [08:02] * movah [movah@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#827 [08:02] <Morrolan> Linduxed: I've never seen something like this before, sorry. I can only advise you to hang around here a bit longer, maybe someone who knows what's the cause of this will join.
#828 [08:06] * JustHayden [JustHayden@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#829 [08:07] <JustHayden> anyone else having some sorta java error with every server they try and join?
#830 [08:07] <linduxed> Morrolan: hmmm, i think i've got a clue
#831 [08:08] <linduxed> Morrolan: could it have something to do with the fact that i used icedtea instead of suns VM?
#832 [08:09] <JustHayden> can anyone help me out here?
#833 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> What java error?
#834 [08:09] <_303> linduxed: yeah try sun's. what OS, if linux, what distro?
#835 [08:09] <JustHayden> internal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset
#836 [08:09] <linduxed> debian
#837 [08:09] <linduxed> squeeze
#838 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> JustHayden - Just means there's no server running at that address
#839 [08:10] <JustHayden> its done this for 11 servers now that are online
#840 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Try smp.shadow-craft.net
#841 [08:10] <_303> $ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-{jre,bin,plugin}
#842 [08:10] <JustHayden> unknown host
#843 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> smp.shadow-craft.net?
#844 [08:10] <_303> $ sudo update-alternatives --config java
#845 [08:11] <JustHayden> nvm
#846 [08:11] <JustHayden> its working
#847 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> You've just had bad luck trying servers
#848 [08:11] <JustHayden> my main server isnt there then?
#849 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> YEs
#850 [08:11] <linduxed> _303: i assume i should remove everything java related first?
#851 [08:11] <Morrolan> JustHayden: Either they're not running or they're not updated.
#852 [08:11] <JustHayden> oh
#853 [08:11] <_303> linduxed: no, just run those commands
#854 [08:12] <_303> linduxed: you can have multiple java installs on the same computer, you switch between them using update-alternatives
#855 [08:12] <JustHayden> i put alot of time and effort in that server, made a crazy rollercoaster and in the middle of a city
#856 [08:12] <Morrolan> JustHayden: If it's something like Connection refused, end of stream or whatever, then chance is high that they're not updated yet.
#857 [08:12] <JustHayden> how many ppl are on Mcranks?
#858 [08:12] <Morrolan> Never heard of it, so, euh. :D
#859 [08:13] <JustHayden> me neither till a week ago :P but apparently im ranked 11 on the leaderboard
#860 [08:13] <linduxed> _303: hmmm true
#861 [08:14] <linduxed> _303: oh how nice.... squeeze doesn't have sun-java6 anymore
#862 [08:14] <_303> :/
#863 [08:14] <linduxed> _303: apparently they've dumped that
#864 [08:15] <linduxed> _303: ill have to check in sid
#865 [08:15] <_303> you can install the latest java7 snapshot regardless
#866 [08:15] <_303> http://download.java.net/jdk7/
#867 [08:16] * LoneBlackfang [LoneBlackfang@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#868 [08:19] * LoneBlackfang [LoneBlackfang@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#869 [08:19] <_303> linduxed: these instructions worked for me iirc: http://strug.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/installing-java-7-snapshot-on-ubuntu/
#870 [08:29] * CelesteA [CelesteA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#871 [08:34] * r0w [r0w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#872 [08:36] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#873 [08:38] * fogWraith [fogWraith@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#874 [08:41] <phreak97> is there a way to play fullscreen?
#875 [08:42] <Morrolan> Press F11
#876 [08:43] <phreak97> clever
#877 [08:43] <phreak97> I'm not playing in a browser window
#878 [08:43] <phreak97> nor does that actually help
#879 [08:43] <Morrolan> Press F11
#880 [08:43] <Morrolan> I assure you, it should help. ;)
#881 [08:44] <Morrolan> If it doesn't then something is screwed up.
#882 [08:44] <phreak97> lol I thought you were just being smart
#883 [08:44] <phreak97> awesome thanks :D
#884 [08:44] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#885 [08:47] <SlashLife^m> you should be aware that it doesn't work everywhere in the client, though.
#886 [08:50] * Sirrush [Sirrush@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#887 [08:50] * Jayan [Jayan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#888 [08:50] * Jayan [Jayan@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#889 [08:52] * Jayan [Jayan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#890 [08:52] <Jayan> it says i must register to speak. how can i do this?
#891 [08:52] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#892 [08:52] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#893 [08:52] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#894 [09:00] * Madogi [Madogi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#895 [09:01] <Madogi> hey anyone know anythign about texturepacks ^_^
#896 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> What about them?
#897 [09:01] <Madogi> well my grass http://striders.darkstargamers.com/pics/wtfgreen.jpg its ment to be dirt and grass on top and it looks like that :S
#898 [09:01] * remi [remi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#899 [09:02] <Morrolan> Because of biome grass sides I guess.
#900 [09:02] <Madogi> these biome things are annoying me
#901 [09:02] <Morrolan> You'll have to wait for its creator to update the texturepack.
#902 [09:02] <Morrolan> Or rather, if it's yours, update it.
#903 [09:02] <Madogi> im the creator :/
#904 [09:02] <Madogi> but im lost
#905 [09:02] <Madogi> lol
#906 [09:03] <Madogi> cause i normal just mix n match
#907 [09:03] <Madogi> a few
#908 [09:03] <Madogi> that i like
#909 [09:03] <remi> Okay, I can no longer climb ladders, is anyone else have this problem? It is the same ladder I have been climbing for ages, but it puts me up a level and then I just sit there bobbing.
#910 [09:03] <Madogi> and make it into a personal one to use :(
#911 [09:03] <Morrolan> remi: You can't place one every two spaces anymore.
#912 [09:03] <Morrolan> Respectively you can't climb it anymore.
#913 [09:03] * phreak97 [phreak97@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#914 [09:03] <Morrolan> Madogi: Wait a second, I'll look which file you'll have to edit.
#915 [09:03] <Madogi> <3
#916 [09:04] <remi> Well crap. >.< Thanks.
#917 [09:04] * remi [remi@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#918 [09:04] <Madogi> :P
#919 [09:05] <gPad2002> It is I.
#920 [09:05] <gPad2002> THE MIGHTY G!
#921 [09:06] * Morrolan bows
#921 [09:06] <Madogi> :O
#922 [09:06] <Madogi> u find it
#923 [09:07] <gPad2002> xD
#924 [09:07] <gPad2002> Inb42k10
#925 [09:09] <Madogi> morrolan any luck?
#926 [09:10] <Morrolan> Madogi: Not yet. :/
#927 [09:10] <Morrolan> It might be grasscolor.png in /misc , not sure though.
#928 [09:11] <Madogi> i but i removed the misc folder
#929 [09:11] <Madogi> and it goes grey
#930 [09:11] <_303> terrain.png?
#931 [09:11] <Madogi> then i tried a pure white grasscolor.png
#932 [09:11] <Madogi> and its ment to ignore it
#933 [09:11] <Madogi> but it dosnt
#934 [09:11] <Morrolan> Wait, guess I found it.
#935 [09:11] <gPad2002> terrain.png has the grey colour
#936 [09:11] <Morrolan> In terrain.png are several grey boxes.
#937 [09:11] <Morrolan> there are*
#938 [09:12] <Madogi> want me to show u my terrain.png?
#939 [09:12] * _2k10 [_2k10@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#940 [09:12] <Morrolan> Just take a look at terrain.png of, for example, the painterly pack.
#941 [09:12] <gPad2002> It's supposed to be grey
#942 [09:12] <gPad2002> MC colours them
#943 [09:13] <gPad2002> Unless you installed a mod
#944 [09:13] <_2k10> hi
#945 [09:13] <Morrolan> hey
#946 [09:13] <Madogi> stock thing and i used mcmapper to install the texture packs
#947 [09:13] <Madogi> or arnt u supposed to use mcmapper anymore?
#948 [09:14] <Morrolan> Why don't you just put it in the texturepack folder? Or is it a high resolution pack?
#949 [09:14] <Madogi> 32x32
#950 [09:14] <_2k10> guys does anyone know why when i try to go on my server it keeps saying end of stream
#951 [09:14] <Morrolan> _2k10: Did you update yuor server?
#952 [09:14] <Morrolan> your*
#953 [09:15] * _2k10 punches himself
#953 [09:15] <Morrolan> Hehe. :D
#954 [09:15] * Madogi yells boom headshot
#954 [09:16] * thefRont counts +1 on his bodycount list
#954 [09:16] <Morrolan> Madogi: An example of grasscolor.png can be found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Grasscolor.png
#955 [09:17] <Morrolan> If you ever want to make biome specific grass.
#956 [09:17] <Madogi> Morrolan this is my terrain/png
#957 [09:17] <Madogi> http://striders.darkstargamers.com/pics/terrain.png
#958 [09:18] <Madogi> only thing i can think of is a error in the terrain.png
#959 [09:18] <Madogi> i mean
#960 [09:18] <Madogi> mcmapper
#961 [09:20] <thefRont> Madogi: looks nice
#962 [09:20] <Madogi> :)
#963 [09:20] <Madogi> shame i have 1 error :O
#964 [09:21] <Madogi> http://striders.darkstargamers.com/pics/wtfgreen.jpg
#965 [09:24] <Madogi> Morrolan any idea?
#966 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> What.. is that?
#967 [09:26] <Madogi> a bug in my texturepack
#968 [09:27] <Madogi> no idea how to fix it
#969 [09:27] <Madogi> no one does
#970 [09:27] <Morrolan> Sorry, I stopped working with texturepacks shortly before biomes came out, not sure how exactly you can fix this.
#971 [09:27] <Morrolan> However, it is caused by something missing in your texturepack, since you get this error as well with outdated texture packs.
#972 [09:41] <xolotl> AFAIK right now you can't change the biome grass coloring without modifying the .jar itself, btw
#973 [09:42] * VitalCobra633 [VitalCobra633@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#974 [09:42] <VitalCobra633> yo
#975 [09:42] <xolotl> That was definitely the case in 1.4, anyway; it's possible that something changed with 1.5 but probably not
#976 [09:44] <xolotl> Oh, he's gone
#977 [09:45] <xolotl> Oh, and his problem was definitely that iron block in his terrain.png, where the side-grass texture should be
#978 [09:46] <[E]MARANTz> MARANTz Skin making: Link me a picture of a man, woman, figure, anything. And i will make the skin as good as i can. /msg me
#979 [09:46] * xolotl shrugs
#979 [09:54] <werwew19> Anyone a good builder here?
#980 [09:54] * spdorsey [spdorsey@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#981 [10:13] * buddyochoa [buddyochoa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#982 [10:15] * ALT3RNAT1V3 [ALT3RNAT1V3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#983 [10:15] <ALT3RNAT1V3> anyone tell me how to stack fences?
#984 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Start from the top, going down
#985 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> So make a pillar of dirt, place a fence on top, destroy the block below it, place fence, repeat
#986 [10:19] <ALT3RNAT1V3> thanks
#987 [10:32] * Altazimuth [Altazimuth@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#988 [10:33] <Altazimuth> Whenever I open a door on a server it resets to it's state before I hit it, any reasons as to why?
#989 [10:33] * SwingBlade [SwingBlade@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#990 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> I don't understand the question.
#991 [10:33] <gPad2002> Open it, it closes itself
#992 [10:33] <Morrolan> Altazimuth: Is the server using any protection plugin?
#993 [10:33] <Altazimuth> Nope
#994 [10:33] <Morrolan> Or does it happen with any door?
#995 [10:34] <Altazimuth> ANY door
#996 [10:34] <Morrolan> :/
#997 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Tried this on multiple servers?
#998 [10:34] <Altazimuth> Nope
#999 [10:34] <gPad2002> Tried right-clicking?
#1000 [10:34] <Altazimuth> Yes
#1001 [10:35] <SwingBlade> Sounds kinda like lag.
#1002 [10:35] <Morrolan> Well, for some reason the server either doesn't register or doesn't allow you opening/to open the door.
#1003 [10:35] * Sirrush [Sirrush@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1004 [10:35] <SwingBlade> Like, you see yourself making the click to open the door but the server isn't registering the action
#1005 [10:36] <SwingBlade> So that when your client resyncs it never happened 'officially'
#1006 [10:37] <SwingBlade> I'm just curious as to what the recommended specs for hosting a server are
#1007 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Altazimuth - Could you try it on this server: greyvulpine.dyndns.org
#1008 [10:37] <SwingBlade> Can/should I do it from my primary system that I plan to play from, or should I go with a dedicated machine?
#1009 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> SwingBlade - Depends on your needs
#1010 [10:37] <SwingBlade> It'll be small
#1011 [10:37] <SwingBlade> Not terribly many people.
#1012 [10:37] <Morrolan> SwingBlade: If you have a spare laptop or PC then I advise you NOT to host on the same machine you'll play on.
#1013 [10:38] <SwingBlade> My spare is a Dell netbook
#1014 [10:38] <Morrolan> Oh. XD
#1015 [10:38] <Morrolan> Better stay with your primary machine then. ;)
#1016 [10:38] <SwingBlade> Haha
#1017 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> Rough ballpark, you'll need at least a multicore processor, about 100Kb/sec upload per person, about 100Kb of RAM per person
#1018 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft server right now, is not mulitthreaded
#1019 [10:38] <Morrolan> The bottleneck will most likely be your upload speed anyway, yea.
#1020 [10:38] <SwingBlade> Bah, yeah.
#1021 [10:38] <SwingBlade> We only have 1Mb/s up
#1022 [10:39] <SwingBlade> Presuming no noteworthy network activity aside from Minecraft ,at what point would I start experiencing soul-crushing lag would you think?
#1023 [10:39] <Altazimuth> What's the channel for mod support
#1024 [10:39] <Morrolan> Altazimuth: For creatin a mod?
#1025 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Altazimuth - #risucraft
#1026 [10:39] <Morrolan> creating*
#1027 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> or mcpmodding
#1028 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> er, #mcp-modding
#1029 [10:40] <_303> mcp-modding is for creating mods with the MCP system, not for mod help
#1030 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry.
#1031 [10:40] <Morrolan> If it's for assistance with a certain mod, then some mods have a channel of their own.
#1032 [10:43] <Morrolan> Geez, just put a CD in my laptop and now it's as if a helicopter were starting its engine right next to me. :/
#1033 [10:43] <Morrolan> Time to order a new cd drive I guess.
#1034 [10:43] <gPad2002> Lol.
#1035 [10:43] <gPad2002> It's fine
#1036 [10:43] <gPad2002> You need a new one if the CD explodes
#1037 [10:44] <gPad2002> :ap
#1038 [10:44] <Morrolan> ^^
#1039 [10:44] <gPad2002> :P*
#1040 [10:44] <Morrolan> I'd prefer it not coming that far. :D
#1041 [10:51] * bokaholic wakes up. z.z
#1041 [10:52] * gPad2002 smothers bokaholic with sleeping gas
#1041 [10:52] <Morrolan> bokaholic: Still waking up, but already in IRC? :D
#1042 [10:53] <Morrolan> Or do you have a device which registers when you're waking up and automatically posts this in IRC? :D
#1043 [10:53] <gPad2002> Lol
#1044 [10:57] * trekkie1701c [trekkie1701c@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1045 [10:57] * Bio_Hazzard [Bio_Hazzard@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1046 [10:57] <peru_> question: for this new "brown cocoa" which can be found in dungeon chests, can the dungeon be already created, or do i have to go explore new terrains?
#1047 [10:58] <[z]> New, I would guess
#1048 [10:58] <Morrolan> AFAIK the content of chests is generated when the chest is getting generated, so you'll have to explore new ones.
#1049 [10:59] <peru_> ok thanks
#1050 [10:59] <peru_> sad news :(
#1051 [11:09] * LG_Legacy [LG_Legacy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1052 [11:10] * lilomar [lilomar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1053 [11:11] * Altazimuth [Altazimuth@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1054 [11:21] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1055 [11:23] * mib_slkj8b [mib_slkj8b@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1056 [11:26] * Bio_Hazzard [Bio_Hazzard@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1057 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Notch - "Livestreaming me and @ezchili playing portal 2 co-op: http://mojang.com:8080/live/"
#1058 [11:30] <gPad2002> Mm
#1059 [11:30] <gPad2002> That is correct, sir
#1060 [11:36] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1061 [11:36] * Talyian [Talyian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1062 [11:38] <LordEddi> GreyVulpine: Queue the whiners complaining about Notch not spending his free time on minecraft instead xD
#1063 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1064 [11:38] <LordEddi> I agree ^^
#1065 [11:39] <LordEddi> Wow, the coop looks better than I expected actually. Just finished the singleplayer.. Guess I need to get one of my friends into this asap.
#1066 [11:39] <bokaholic> Coop? :o
#1067 [11:39] * bokaholic wakes up again.
#1067 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> cooperative play for portal 2
#1068 [11:39] <xolotl> bokaholic: Yeah, Portal 2 includes a chicken-farming minigame
#1069 [11:39] <LordEddi> hehe
#1070 [11:40] <bokaholic> Oh ;.; I'm too broke for new games.
#1071 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> don't forget the potato farming harvest moon
#1072 [11:40] <bokaholic> That makes me a sad lady.
#1073 [11:40] <bokaholic> Oh, Harvest Moon.
#1074 [11:41] <gPad2002> A sad lady
#1075 [11:41] <gPad2002> Hey, it's a girl
#1076 [11:41] <LordEddi> bahaha
#1077 [11:41] <LordEddi> He died!
#1078 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> haha
#1079 [11:41] <gPad2002> Rare :P
#1080 [11:41] <bokaholic> O dear.
#1081 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Poor notch
#1082 [11:41] <bokaholic> The Internet is full of ladies!
#1083 [11:41] <bokaholic> I know plenty. :3
#1084 [11:41] <gPad2002> It is
#1085 [11:41] <gPad2002> But they avoid us
#1086 [11:41] * NateC [NateC@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1087 [11:41] <gPad2002> :P
#1088 [11:41] <bokaholic> haha.
#1089 [11:41] <bokaholic> I like help #channels. I used to OP a NDS help channel.
#1090 [11:41] <bokaholic> ;.;
#1091 [11:41] <bokaholic> It was handsome times.
#1092 [11:42] <gPad2002> Mm
#1093 [11:42] <LordEddi> GreyVulpine; He seems to struggle quite a bit with this part xD
#1094 [11:42] <bokaholic> The more people come in with issues, the more I learn. Well, when I'm paying attention.
#1095 [11:42] <gPad2002> Good to see there are girls in here, anyway :ap
#1096 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, he's died a few times now
#1097 [11:42] <bokaholic> :)
#1098 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Yay, he made it past
#1099 [11:43] <LordEddi> haha
#1100 [11:43] * Auv5 [Auv5@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1101 [11:43] <bread> girls on the internet?
#1102 [11:43] <bread> lies
#1103 [11:43] * bokaholic facedesks.
#1103 [11:43] <NateC> I need some minecraft help if someone doesn't mind. The website always tells me login throttled when I try to login and my exe always tells me login failed. I bought Minecraft about 2 weeks ago and am yet to be able to log in
#1104 [11:43] <bread> :>
#1105 [11:43] <LordEddi> Hm, ok. Screw this, I am buying this for a few of my poor friends.
#1106 [11:43] * Sun7zu [Sun7zu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1107 [11:43] <bokaholic> I'm poor. But sadly, we are not friends. T-T
#1108 [11:43] * gPad2002 eats bread
#1108 [11:44] <bread> :O
#1109 [11:44] * bokaholic ohgods.
#1109 [11:44] * bread flees.
#1109 [11:44] <LordEddi> hehe
#1110 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Haha
#1111 [11:44] <LordEddi> Boom, dead xD
#1112 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I did the same exact thing with my friend
#1113 [11:44] <gPad2002> Lol
#1114 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> I was on shield duty
#1115 [11:44] * bread is impervious to this 'eating' you speak of.
#1115 [11:44] <LordEddi> Funniest bit, I understand what they are saying.
#1116 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> ....
#1117 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Didn't catch how he died there
#1118 [11:45] <LordEddi> "What did you do?" Notch asked, and his friend went "Uhm, I missed..."
#1119 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Haha
#1120 [11:45] <LordEddi> hahaha
#1121 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Also, it's @ez, his fiancee
#1122 [11:45] <LordEddi> aight.
#1123 [11:45] <bokaholic> NateC: Hmm. Sadly I'm not well educated enough to help you. :(
#1124 [11:45] <gPad2002> bokaholic: What is a bok, exactly?
#1125 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Oh, NateC had a problem
#1126 [11:45] <bokaholic> gPad2002: You know the noise that cute little cadbury bunny makes on the old commercials?
#1127 [11:45] <NateC> ^^
#1128 [11:45] <gPad2002> Login throttling, hmm
#1129 [11:46] <bokaholic> That. <3
#1130 [11:46] <gPad2002> bokaholic: Yes?
#1131 [11:46] <gPad2002> Awesome :P
#1132 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Basically, the problem is that somebody is trying to log into your account unsuccessfully too many times
#1133 [11:46] <bokaholic> Or also in my case: Bokeh. The slang term for Depth of Field in photography.
#1134 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net is locking it down
#1135 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do there with that.
#1136 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> here*
#1137 [11:46] * LordTrevor [LordTrevor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1138 [11:47] <NateC> greyvulpine, I find that hard to believe because the first time I tried to log in after I created my account and bought the game I was told that
#1139 [11:47] * GreyVulpine has to quit the stream..
#1139 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> This is as far as I got with my friend on portal 2
#1140 [11:47] <NotiCon> already ahead of you
#1141 [11:48] <NateC> well one other question, I can't manage to update my exe to 1.5
#1142 [11:48] <Morrolan> NateC: Already tried to contact support?
#1143 [11:48] <Morrolan> Yeah, it's hard to update when you can't log in, eh? ;)
#1144 [11:48] <NateC> is there an official support line, I've looked on the forums and i thought maybe irc would be a more responsive group
#1145 [11:48] <Morrolan> support@mojang.com I think
#1146 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> We're a bit more dedicated, but we're still just community-run support.
#1147 [11:49] <Morrolan> Only way to contact them.
#1148 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> We have no official affiliation with Mojang
#1149 [11:49] <Morrolan> (Apart from Getsatisfaction)
#1150 [11:49] <LordEddi> Hm, would it be an idea to try to reset his password?
#1151 [11:49] <NateC> tried that
#1152 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> Password recovery is down
#1153 [11:49] * R41 [R41@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1154 [11:49] <bokaholic> Sad.
#1155 [11:49] <LordEddi> Oh, ofcourse it is >.>
#1156 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> Mollstam still needs to fix that
#1157 [11:49] <gPad2002> bokaholic: I enjoy read ing long walks on the be- Just kidding :P
#1158 [11:49] <NateC> alright well thanks guys, have a nice day =)
#1159 [11:49] <gPad2002> Reading and*
#1160 [11:49] <gPad2002> Damn autocorrect fail
#1161 [11:49] <LordEddi> NateC: And what browser are you using?
#1162 [11:50] <Morrolan> You're welcome. Sorry that we can't help more.
#1163 [11:50] <NateC> ive tried on chrome ie and firefox
#1164 [11:50] <gPad2002> We need a Mojang rep in here
#1165 [11:50] <R41> how do I join a public server off the Minecraft website? Do I just connect to the name or do I need the ip?
#1166 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> We do..
#1167 [11:50] * GreyVulpine points to mollstam.
#1167 [11:50] <Morrolan> Let us know if their support managed to help you.
#1168 [11:50] <gPad2002> Oh, lol
#1169 [11:50] <Morrolan> R41: These are classic servers.
#1170 [11:50] <R41> can I join them?
#1171 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes, you need to login to the website first
#1172 [11:51] <Morrolan> Uhm, yea, with Minecraft classic this should work.
#1173 [11:51] <LordEddi> Yey, got a portal 2 "date" setup for 20:00!
#1174 [11:51] <LordEddi> Cant wait xD
#1175 [11:51] <gPad2002> Lol.
#1176 [11:51] <gPad2002> Portal 2 date
#1177 [11:51] <gPad2002> How sad
#1178 [11:52] <R41> oh, they are browser based?
#1179 [11:52] <gPad2002> I didn't expect that for a few months at least
#1180 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Classic is, R41
#1181 [11:52] <LordEddi> gPad2002: hehe
#1182 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Beta, you need to pay for an account, and you'll be able to play with a client.
#1183 [11:52] <R41> does anyone list servers for the actual game?
#1184 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1185 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1186 [11:52] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1187 [11:52] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1188 [11:52] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: How is that any more sad than any other kind of plan-to-do-something-fun?
#1189 [11:52] <xolotl> er
#1190 [11:52] <xolotl> gPad2002: ^
#1191 [11:52] * xolotl curses his tab key
#1191 [11:52] <xolotl> Clearly the key itself is the problem here
#1192 [11:52] <R41> wicked cool
#1193 [11:52] <gPad2002> xolotl: You don't seem to understand what I mean :P
#1194 [11:53] <xolotl> gPad2002: You said "Portal 2 date; How sad." Seems pretty clear.
#1195 [11:53] <gPad2002> Ever seen Halo/Minecraft weddings?
#1196 [11:53] * xolotl shrugs
#1196 [11:53] <gPad2002> The same people often "date" privately on two-player games
#1197 [11:53] <xolotl> I don't see why I should judge what makes other people happy
#1198 [11:54] <gPad2002> It's saddening
#1199 [11:54] <gPad2002> To see that they take an in-game relationship over half of the world that seriously
#1200 [11:54] <NotiCon> pretty sure i once heard about a wow funeral one time
#1201 [11:55] <gPad2002> If it was the funeral of an actual person, that's fair
#1202 [11:55] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1203 [11:55] <LordEddi> Just pointing out that this is not a date in any romantic sense of the word. Hence the "date".
#1204 [11:55] <gPad2002> LordEddi: Good,
#1205 [11:55] <gPad2002> :P
#1206 [11:55] <LordEddi> Heck, its not even a girl.
#1207 [11:55] <NotiCon> then its a date
#1208 [11:55] <LordEddi> haha
#1209 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Also, portal 2 achievement, need to complete coop completely before giving a new person who hasn't played before, a walkthrough of the first coop course.
#1210 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> That's going to be hard to do after a while.
#1211 [11:56] <LordEddi> Yeah.
#1212 [11:57] <LordEddi> They cant have played Portal 2 at all, or just not the MP?
#1213 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Not the MP, I believe.
#1214 [11:57] <LordEddi> Thats not to bad then, really.
#1215 [11:57] <gPad2002> Just not MP, yeah
#1216 [11:58] <LordEddi> Finish the co-op
#1217 [11:58] <LordEddi> Buy the game for someone
#1218 [11:58] <LordEddi> Profit!
#1219 [11:58] <gPad2002> There's always going to be new players
#1220 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> "Professor Portal" - After completing co-op, complete Calibration Course online with a friend who hasn't played before
#1221 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> So.. yeah.
#1222 [11:58] <gPad2002> :P
#1223 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> I don't know.
#1224 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> And I'm not paying 40 bucks just to get an achievement :P
#1225 [11:58] <gPad2002> So much space gotta see it all
#1226 [11:58] <gPad2002> SPAAAAAAAAACCEE!
#1227 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1228 [11:59] <gPad2002> I'm in space
#1229 [11:59] <LordEddi> Pfft!
#1230 [11:59] <gPad2002> Lol
#1231 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> I just GCFscaped the .pak for those sounds
#1232 [11:59] <LordEddi> To be fair, I dont care about achievements at all.
#1233 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Looking through them for good ringtones
#1234 [11:59] <LordEddi> Have like 40 games on the xbox and like 10k points.
#1235 [11:59] <gPad2002> I have a lot of them
#1236 [11:59] <gPad2002> Lol Xbox
#1237 [11:59] <gPad2002> RRoD lately?
#1238 [11:59] <LordEddi> No.
#1239 [11:59] <gPad2002> I heard they fixed it
#1240 [11:59] <gPad2002> Again
#1241 [11:59] <Morrolan> LIES!
#1242 [11:59] <LordEddi> Not had a single RRoD on any of my boxes.
#1243 [12:00] <NotiCon> how many boxes you have?
#1244 [12:00] <LordEddi> 2
#1245 [12:00] <NotiCon> the new and the old?
#1246 [12:00] * GreyVulpine wonders when a minecraft version of "Want You Gone" will be out.
#1246 [12:00] <gPad2002> Apparently you can fix it by wrapping it in towels if it happens
#1247 [12:00] <gPad2002> Go figure
#1248 [12:00] <Morrolan> No seriusly, since they always were really fair when it came to RRoD I didn't really mind. :/
#1249 [12:00] <LordEddi> Bought one on release, which is now in my brothers possession, and an elite black one when they came.
#1250 [12:00] <Morrolan> seriously*
#1251 [12:01] <NotiCon> so not the new one?
#1252 [12:01] <LordEddi> Yeah, you got a new one quick, and outside of the warranty aswell.
#1253 [12:01] <LordEddi> No, dont have the new one.
#1254 [12:01] <LordEddi> The black elite I have fits perfectly with my furniture >.>
#1255 [12:01] <gPad2002> :P
#1256 [12:01] <LordEddi> Alltho, been considering one of the black slim ones.
#1257 [12:01] <LordEddi> But whats the point..
#1258 [12:01] <NotiCon> the new one is black aswell and its pretty and slim
#1259 [12:01] <gPad2002> I've never considered a 360
#1260 [12:01] <gPad2002> :ap
#1261 [12:01] <gPad2002> :P*
#1262 [12:01] <NotiCon> LordEddi: thats the new one
#1263 [12:02] <LordEddi> Why not?
#1264 [12:02] <gPad2002> Hell, I play PS2 games on my PC
#1265 [12:02] <LordEddi> NotiCon: I know.
#1266 [12:02] <LordEddi> The more consoles and shit you have, the more games you get access to ^^
#1267 [12:02] <LordEddi> So a win/win in my book.
#1268 [12:02] <gPad2002> I hate Sony
#1269 [12:03] <LordEddi> hehe
#1270 [12:03] <gPad2002> For what they did with PS3
#1271 [12:03] <LordEddi> The linux support being removed?
#1272 [12:03] <gPad2002> I own one and its awesome but..
#1273 [12:03] <gPad2002> Nah, I didn't mind that much
#1274 [12:03] <LordEddi> The backwards compatability not being in?
#1275 [12:03] <gPad2002> The rootkit
#1276 [12:03] <LordEddi> ah
#1277 [12:03] <NotiCon> the stuff about geohotz?
#1278 [12:03] <gPad2002> That too
#1279 [12:03] <LordEddi> Frankly, I dont care about any of it.
#1280 [12:03] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :The rootkit?... :P
#1281 [12:03] <LordEddi> I bought it to play games.
#1282 [12:04] <LordEddi> Aslong as it does that, I am find with it.
#1283 [12:04] <gPad2002> Sony introduced a rootkit
#1284 [12:04] <LordEddi> Like they so often do..
#1285 [12:04] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :^
#1286 [12:04] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :What does it do? :P
#1287 [12:04] <gPad2002> When you log on to PSN, PS3 can run any code they want it to run
#1288 [12:04] <gPad2002> Mm
#1289 [12:04] <gPad2002> I remember DRM
#1290 [12:04] <gPad2002> Anything they want
#1291 [12:04] <gPad2002> :P
#1292 [12:04] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :...
#1293 [12:04] <gPad2002> They use it to check what you have installed
#1294 [12:04] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :gPad2002: you do realise that they could do that through a mechanism called 'software updates'
#1295 [12:04] <NotiCon> drm is silly
#1296 [12:05] <LordEddi> Then again, the other companies arent much better.
#1297 [12:05] <gPad2002> Yeah
#1298 [12:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :It changes nothing :P
#1299 [12:05] <gPad2002> They did
#1300 [12:05] <gPad2002> :P
#1301 [12:05] <gPad2002> That's how it got there
#1302 [12:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Yeah
#1303 [12:05] <LordEddi> Apple with their gpsthingielogger
#1304 [12:05] <LordEddi> Blizzard with their Warden.
#1305 [12:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :But they can run code with updates
#1306 [12:05] <gPad2002> LordEddi: Well we agreed to the apple logger
#1307 [12:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :And warden.
#1308 [12:05] <gPad2002> lukegb: Yeah but they get your permission
#1309 [12:05] <NotiCon> warden?
#1310 [12:05] <gPad2002> The rootkit is completely transparent
#1311 [12:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :gPad2002: they changed the license agreement iirc
#1312 [12:05] <LordEddi> Their "anti-cheat" system NotiCon.
#1313 [12:05] * bread eyes vox
#1313 [12:06] <NotiCon> blizzard made an anti cheat system?
#1314 [12:06] <gPad2002> My PS3 patch is annoying
#1315 [12:06] <gPad2002> It's patched to mimic 3.60
#1316 [12:06] <LordEddi> NotiCon: Been in for ages.
#1317 [12:06] <gPad2002> But the PSN thinks it's 3.55
#1318 [12:06] <gPad2002> Yet I cant update it
#1319 [12:06] <NotiCon> silly
#1320 [12:07] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :gPad2002: they changed the connection protocol.
#1321 [12:07] <gPad2002> Oh right
#1322 [12:07] <LordEddi> Logs things like what processes are running and stuff.
#1323 [12:07] <gPad2002> That makes sense
#1324 [12:07] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :That was their final 'fixing up PS3 security' fix
#1325 [12:07] <gPad2002> :P
#1326 [12:07] <LordEddi> to counteract things like MMOGlider and such.
#1327 [12:07] <gPad2002> VAC did it mostly right
#1328 [12:07] <gPad2002> But it picks up things like overlays
#1329 [12:08] <gPad2002> And bunnyhoppers
#1330 [12:08] <gPad2002> Which aren't actually against VAC for some reason
#1331 [12:08] <NotiCon> ಠ_ರೃ
#1332 [12:08] <LordEddi> People that jump around in shooters should be shot tbh >.>
#1333 [12:08] <gPad2002> That's the point lol
#1334 [12:08] <LordEddi> hehe
#1335 [12:08] <gPad2002> Harder to hit
#1336 [12:09] <LordEddi> I know that, which is why I normally focus on center of mass, instead of the headshots in most of the game.
#1337 [12:09] <LordEddi> Even if the fuckers jump, they end up dead ;o
#1338 [12:09] <gPad2002> :P
#1339 [12:09] <gPad2002> Shotgun and body shot
#1340 [12:09] <gPad2002> Best method
#1341 [12:09] <LordEddi> hehe
#1342 [12:09] <LordEddi> Not the best combo on maps of bigger sizes tho.
#1343 [12:09] <gPad2002> Still, I tried a CSS bunnyhopper
#1344 [12:09] <gPad2002> VAC is weird
#1345 [12:09] <gPad2002> They let you play for a week, even if you keep using it
#1346 [12:10] <LordEddi> I loved APBs anticheat.
#1347 [12:10] <LordEddi> Never worked.
#1348 [12:10] <LordEddi> xD
#1349 [12:10] <gPad2002> I stopped, but they banned me after like a week and a half :P
#1350 [12:10] <NotiCon> speaking of APB, i like it how stores are still selling the game
#1351 [12:10] <LordEddi> They are? o.O
#1352 [12:10] <NotiCon> i found two stores selling it at least
#1353 [12:10] <LordEddi> Isnt APB-R going to be free to play?
#1354 [12:10] <NotiCon> no idea
#1355 [12:10] <LordEddi> Thats...a bit cheeky..
#1356 [12:10] <NotiCon> it havent been relaunched yet
#1357 [12:10] <LordEddi> Nah, its in beta.
#1358 [12:14] * J697 [J697@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1359 [12:14] <J697> Can anyone help, I can never play multiplayer on minecraft
#1360 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#1361 [12:14] <R41> what you need help with?
#1362 [12:14] <J697> I either get some Java error, a timed out error, or it just says connecting... forever
#1363 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Try smp.shadow-craft.net
#1364 [12:15] * Kosi [Kosi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1365 [12:15] <Kosi> hello
#1366 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1367 [12:16] * RagingRepulsors [RagingRepulsors@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1368 [12:16] <gPad2002> Osup
#1369 [12:16] <LordEddi> 1up
#1370 [12:16] <LordEddi> >.>
#1371 [12:16] <gPad2002> 2up
#1372 [12:16] <RagingRepulsors> NOTE: All online staff, please standby.
#1373 [12:16] <J697> GreyVulpine: I get "Unknown host 'smp.shadow-craft.net'" Failed to connect to server
#1374 [12:16] <Kosi> is a Operator or stuff member online? (mayjor Bug report)
#1375 [12:16] <NotiCon> RagingRepulsors: why?
#1376 [12:16] <RagingRepulsors> Someone by the name of kosi needs to report a major bug.
#1377 [12:17] <Kosi> jes that would be me
#1378 [12:17] <gPad2002> What is this bug that you speak of?
#1379 [12:17] <xolotl> hurrr stuff member hurrr
#1380 [12:17] <Kosi> *my english really suc*s, sry 4 that
#1381 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> J697 - You sure you typed that in right? smp.shadow-craft.net
#1382 [12:17] <RagingRepulsors> Or, I can set up a temporary channel to discuss.
#1383 [12:17] <SlashLife^m> NotiCon, I'd say "ignore the troll", but he's by far not good enough to earn that title.
#1384 [12:17] <J697> GreyVulpine: yes, I even copied it
#1385 [12:17] <J697> With Ctrl-v
#1386 [12:17] <LordEddi> J697: 184.82.131.50:25565 try that
#1387 [12:17] <gPad2002> Copying with CTRL+V?
#1388 [12:17] <Kosi> Its about breaking the 100minutes demo time in the pcgamer-demo from yeasterday
#1389 [12:17] <gPad2002> lol
#1390 [12:17] <RagingRepulsors> To Kosi, all ops here, and me, join #bug so we can discuss in private.
#1391 [12:17] <xolotl> J697: Minecraft doesn't support pasting, though, I don't think.
#1392 [12:18] <NotiCon> eh?
#1393 [12:18] <xolotl> J697: You've got to type it in
#1394 [12:18] <bread> xolotl: it does for me lol
#1395 [12:18] <xolotl> hm
#1396 [12:18] <LordEddi> Does for me aswell.
#1397 [12:18] <xolotl> Perhaps I had been misinformed
#1398 [12:18] <xolotl> k
#1399 [12:18] <bread> ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ
#1400 [12:18] <NotiCon> agreed bread
#1401 [12:18] * xolotl clearly doesn't have a clue, goes back to lurking :)
#1401 [12:18] <Kosi> Bad channel key for #bug
#1402 [12:18] <Kosi> it says
#1403 [12:19] <Kosi> maybe minecraftbug ?
#1404 [12:19] <NotiCon> Kosi: just state the bug in the stuff you found
#1405 [12:19] <J697> LordEddi: Connection Lost Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection Lost
#1406 [12:19] <xolotl> bread: I probably just never tried anything more than the UNIXy middle-click that I'm used to.
#1407 [12:19] <xolotl> Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V is for suckers. :)
#1408 [12:19] <xolotl> (and people who want copy+paste to work inside Minecraft, apparently)
#1409 [12:20] <gPad2002> Kosi: ./join #bug defeat
#1410 [12:20] <Kosi> ./join #bug defeat
#1411 [12:20] <Kosi> ./join #bug
#1412 [12:20] <RagingRepulsors> NOTE: Any unauthorized entrants will be kickbanned on sight.
#1413 [12:20] <gPad2002> Without the .
#1414 [12:20] <gPad2002> Derp
#1415 [12:21] * Jmancino2 [Jmancino2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1416 [12:21] <LordEddi> J697: And the singleplayer works without any issues?
#1417 [12:21] <Kosi> hmm. sry, im not so in the internet thing, so my irc is really bad
#1418 [12:21] <gPad2002> Kosi: Do it without the l
#1419 [12:21] <gPad2002> The .*
#1420 [12:21] <J697> LordEddi: yes, no problems at all with single player
#1421 [12:21] <gPad2002> Like: /join #bug defeat
#1422 [12:21] <Kosi> now i think
#1423 [12:22] <Kosi> here we go
#1424 [12:22] * Kosi [Kosi@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1425 [12:23] * herpderp [herpderp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1426 [12:23] <LordEddi> J697; What version number is your minecraft?
#1427 [12:23] <LordEddi> (top left corner)
#1428 [12:24] <J697> LordEddi: Beta 1.5_01
#1429 [12:24] <J697> I just got one to work
#1430 [12:24] * Kimax [Kimax@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1431 [12:25] <J697> I tried smp.shadow-craft.net worked for me after I tried a few times
#1432 [12:26] <LordEddi> Hm.
#1433 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Either java's acting up, or your internet connection is unreliable at best.
#1434 [12:28] <J697> GreyVulpine: it's not dial-up and I get about 200-300 kb/s on a good day
#1435 [12:28] * Azru [Azru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1436 [12:28] <J697> Although it's not high speed either
#1437 [12:28] <RagingRepulsors> I need an available op.
#1438 [12:28] <RagingRepulsors> This is a major bug repoert.
#1439 [12:28] <RagingRepulsors> report*
#1440 [12:28] <VoxelHead> morning
#1441 [12:28] <VoxelHead> Today's forecast is thunderstorms with 83% chance of horrible wetness moving in from the southeast
#1442 [12:29] <LordEddi> Thats not the important part, really. Its the latency/packet loss that makes it unstable. Say if you are on a wireless connection of some sort for instance.
#1443 [12:29] <VoxelHead> connectionless wire
#1444 [12:30] * Aconitin [Aconitin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1445 [12:31] <Aconitin> hello
#1446 [12:31] <Azru> I've got a quick question: is anyone of you aware of Mojang ever doing some kind of bulk deals for selling gift codes where they would significantly lower the price? Stumbled upon a guy selling beta codes for 5euro (with ~15 people already bought them) and am wondering if that's something I should report to Mojang?
#1447 [12:31] <VoxelHead> have you asked chabby?
#1448 [12:31] <Azru> Or they wouldn't give a damn anyway?
#1449 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Azru - Yes, send an email to Daniel@mojang.com
#1450 [12:32] <Azru> Right, thanks.
#1451 [12:34] * obi_wan [obi_wan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1452 [12:34] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Aren't you allowed to resell Minecraft keys at all, or is the problem him selling it cheaper than it is?
#1453 [12:34] <VoxelHead> We get signal.
#1454 [12:35] <bread> Help me obi_wan, you're my only hope.
#1455 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> There's no rule against selling beta keys.
#1456 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Just, something that cheap, can't be right.
#1457 [12:36] <gPad2002> Well, so much for the "bug"
#1458 [12:36] <bread> lol
#1459 [12:36] <gPad2002> He just wants a free key for MC
#1460 [12:36] <bread> wow really
#1461 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> I've come across many that's sold minecraft accounts here, which turned out to be stolen
#1462 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> or was a scam
#1463 [12:37] <gPad2002> Yeah
#1464 [12:37] <Morrolan> Ah, ok.
#1465 [12:37] <gPad2002> Only buy them from Notch
#1466 [12:37] <gPad2002> Anywhere else is probably a scam
#1467 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> One person would pay for a key, get minecraft, and the seller would issue a chargeback, getting the money he paid for the key, as well as the money he got for reselling it
#1468 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Happened quite a few times.
#1469 [12:37] <gPad2002> Mm.
#1470 [12:38] <Morrolan> Huh, good idea, back in a few minutes... >D
#1471 [12:38] * GreyVulpine kicks Morrolan.
#1471 [12:38] <McPlusPlus> If you want a free key - be nice to your friends.
#1472 [12:38] <gPad2002> :3
#1473 [12:38] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1474 [12:43] <NotiCon> gOne2002: so all alone there was no such thing as "major bug"?
#1475 [12:49] * Asdf [Asdf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1476 [12:49] <Asdf> Hey, quick question, any creative to 'alpha' or whatever it's called now map converters?
#1477 [12:50] * bokaholic sings. Laaa o/~
#1477 [12:51] * Talyian [Talyian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1478 [12:51] * r0w [r0w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1479 [12:51] <linduxed> i asked about this earlier here, but i wrte out a more detailed description now on the forums
#1480 [12:52] <linduxed> if you feel like having a look, please check out this thread: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?uid=410796&f=17&t=303641&start=0
#1481 [12:52] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1482 [12:53] <_303> linduxed: have you tried updating to the latest lwjgl jars?
#1483 [12:53] <_303> 2.7.1
#1484 [12:53] <linduxed> _303: how would i do that, and how would i know what i already have?
#1485 [12:53] <_303> if you haven't installed your own, it's 2.4.2
#1486 [12:54] <_303> iirc
#1487 [12:54] <_303> ?? lwjgl
#1488 [12:54] <_303> ??< index
#1489 [12:55] <_303> on lwjgl.org, you can get the latest lwjgl release. it includes jars/ and natives/ for your OS. install them into the respective place in ~/.minecraft
#1490 [12:55] <linduxed> _303: forgot to mention in the thread (added this) that this happens for ALL the players on the server
#1491 [12:55] <_303> http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.7.1/lwjgl-2.7.1.zip/download
#1492 [12:55] <_303> oh
#1493 [12:56] <_303> so the server is defective? what version?
#1494 [12:56] <linduxed> _303: whatever version i could have downloaded about 10 hours ago from the main page
#1495 [12:57] * r0w [r0w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1496 [12:57] <linduxed> _303: i assume it's the latest
#1497 [13:01] * Jackson413 [Jackson413@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1498 [13:16] * mib_tslp7z [mib_tslp7z@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1499 [13:16] * Count [Count@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1500 [13:24] <Asdf> Hey, this server is kicking anyone who tries to place a block with 'internal server error', but the block is still placed
#1501 [13:25] <Asdf> Any ideas? He's running two servers on the same thing
#1502 [13:25] * TonyMcDanza [TonyMcDanza@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1503 [13:25] <Asdf> same IP
#1504 [13:26] <Asdf> so he's using a non-default port
#1505 [13:26] <Asdf> but different machine!
#1506 [13:28] * progme [progme@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1507 [13:29] <dopeghoti> Asdf: any mods on the server?
#1508 [13:29] <Asdf> No
#1509 [13:29] <Asdf> Fresh download
#1510 [13:29] <_303> what server version?
#1511 [13:30] <Asdf> 1.5
#1512 [13:30] <_303> not _02?
#1513 [13:30] <_303> _01 and _02 fix those kinds of errors supposedly
#1514 [13:30] <Asdf> I think he knows about _02 but the website didn't offer that version, or something
#1515 [13:31] <_303> ?? server
#1516 [13:31] <_303> ??< index
#1517 [13:31] <ALT3RNAT1V3> does Anti-Grief stop flymod?
#1518 [13:31] <dopeghoti> ALT3RNAT1V3: presumably, it tries to.
#1519 [13:31] <Asdf> I don't know what you just said _303
#1520 [13:31] <_303> me neither
#1521 [13:32] <dopeghoti> _303: I think you're looking for…
#1522 [13:32] <dopeghoti> !server
#1523 [13:32] <Asdf> Well, that's the link he used
#1524 [13:32] <dopeghoti> (which I should move into VoxelHead at some point)
#1525 [13:32] <Kealper> !check 118.210.200.130
#1526 [13:32] <Kealper> hmmm
#1527 [13:32] <dopeghoti> Asdf: and any mods or texture packs on the client at all?
#1528 [13:32] <Kealper> how'd i manage that one?
#1529 [13:32] <Asdf> None
#1530 [13:32] * Zw [Zw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1531 [13:32] <Kealper> !check 123.456.789.0
#1532 [13:33] <dopeghoti> does this happen for all clients on your server?
#1533 [13:33] <Asdf> Yes
#1534 [13:33] <Asdf> It's probably the version thing
#1535 [13:33] <dopeghoti> I would try this:
#1536 [13:33] <dopeghoti> shut down the server, and move the /world/ directory away, to generate a fresh world
#1537 [13:34] <dopeghoti> then, restart the server
#1538 [13:34] * henk [henk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1539 [13:34] * whidgle [whidgle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1540 [13:35] <Asdf> He does have _02
#1541 [13:35] <whidgle> hello ?
#1542 [13:35] <dopeghoti> 'lo.
#1543 [13:36] <Asdf> dopeghoti, and if this is succesful?
#1544 [13:38] * Apoca [Apoca@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1545 [13:38] <Apoca> Hello
#1546 [13:38] * asnoehu [asnoehu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1547 [13:40] <Apoca> I'm trying to figure out how many people I'll be able to host. My computer has a Phenom II x4 955 CPU and 8GB of G.Skill 1600 RAM, and I have a 5 Mb/s upload speed. It's the same computer I'm playing on.
#1548 [13:40] <Apoca> Any ideas?
#1549 [13:40] <g> dopeghoti: Quick question(s)
#1550 [13:40] <g> You own vox, right?
#1551 [13:42] * g slaps dopeghoti around a bit with a large trout.
#1551 [13:42] <dopeghoti> Yes, and I also have a job that takes priority over #minecrafthelp, so I may not always answer instantly
#1552 [13:42] <g> All good
#1553 [13:42] <g> I see its uses, but
#1554 [13:42] <dopeghoti> ☻
#1555 [13:42] <g> Why does it have an AI in here?
#1556 [13:43] <g> I mean, it gets pretty annoying for a lot of people in here :P
#1557 [13:43] <LordEddi> Thats why god invented /ignore
#1558 [13:43] <xolotl> Yeah, VoxelHead is annoying as hell when it speaks out of turn
#1559 [13:43] <xolotl> But like LordEddi, I don't notice anymore thanks to /ignore
#1560 [13:43] <xolotl> :)
#1561 [13:43] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1562 [13:43] <g> I can't ignore it cause I need it to help people
#1563 [13:44] <g> but the AI is unnecessary
#1564 [13:44] <xolotl> Yeah, the precanned-response thing is useful
#1565 [13:44] <xolotl> g: I totally agree
#1566 [13:44] <xolotl> Not even unnecessary; it's disruptive
#1567 [13:44] <NotiCon> .lr
#1568 [13:44] <NotiCon> LordEddi: not all clients have /ignore
#1569 [13:44] <g> ^ that too
#1570 [13:44] <dopeghoti> It seems alternately popular and less so, which is why is behaves when told to 'shut up'.
#1571 [13:44] <dopeghoti> for example:
#1572 [13:44] <dopeghoti> shut up, vox
#1573 [13:44] <g> dopeghoti: Oh, it actually does shut up?
#1574 [13:44] <g> I didn't really
#1575 [13:45] <g> realise*
#1576 [13:45] * VoxelHead talks to Harryhy instead
#1576 [13:45] <xolotl> Still
#1577 [13:45] <xolotl> IMO bots which speak when they're not spoken to directly are really bad form
#1578 [13:45] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: speak to me
#1579 [13:45] <xolotl> But I'll say no more
#1580 [13:45] <dopeghoti> Now vox will only respond to ?? commands
#1581 [13:45] <LordEddi> NotiCon: Hm, ok. Thought that was pretty universal. had it in all the clients I've used on IRC ^^
#1582 [13:45] <dopeghoti> (for the next 7 minutes)
#1583 [13:45] <g> The next seven mins >.<
#1584 [13:45] <g> It should just be switchable
#1585 [13:45] <LordEddi> Make a timer, g. xD
#1586 [13:45] <g> (And only ops can turn it on)
#1587 [13:45] * supervoltage [supervoltage@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1588 [13:45] <supervoltage> hello
#1589 [13:46] <g> Surely that'd be much simpler
#1590 [13:46] <dopeghoti> Again, it's been generally popular and amusing enough. and I deliberately configured it so _anyone_ can tell it to stfu, shut up, be quiet, or go away
#1591 [13:46] <supervoltage> I need some help in downgrading
#1592 [13:46] <dopeghoti> (all of these work)
#1593 [13:46] <LordEddi> VoxelHead: Die.
#1594 [13:46] <LordEddi> >.>
#1595 [13:46] <g> Yes, but it's inappropriate for the official Minecraft help channel :P
#1596 [13:46] <LordEddi> No?
#1597 [13:47] <dopeghoti> supervoltage: could you be more specific?
#1598 [13:47] <g> He wants the jar
#1599 [13:47] <supervoltage> Even if I copy the files, MC says that the game is 1.5
#1600 [13:47] <g> Which I have, but I guess I can't distribute it
#1601 [13:48] <supervoltage> it's illegal to distribute older versions of MC.. that's why I have an older backup
#1602 [13:49] <supervoltage> umm.. any help?
#1603 [13:50] <dopeghoti> did you back up the .jar in .minecraft/bin, or the one on your desktop/wherever you launch Minecraft from?
#1604 [13:50] <supervoltage> okay then.. I'm going to try in another channel
#1605 [13:50] <supervoltage> yes
#1606 [13:50] <dopeghoti> which?
#1607 [13:50] <supervoltage> I backed up the whole .minecraft folder
#1608 [13:50] <supervoltage> from %appdata%
#1609 [13:50] <dopeghoti> and you did this before updating, yes?
#1610 [13:50] <supervoltage> yes
#1611 [13:51] <dopeghoti> and you are using the new launcher?
#1612 [13:51] <g> You just need to copy minecraft.jar back
#1613 [13:51] <supervoltage> I did
#1614 [13:51] <g> otherwise it'll want to update again
#1615 [13:51] <supervoltage> but Minecraft STILL says that it's 1.5
#1616 [13:51] <supervoltage> even though it's not updating at all
#1617 [13:52] <dopeghoti> interesting
#1618 [13:52] <dopeghoti> and I'd like to help you further, but I need to stop telecommuting and actually go into the office for the day
#1619 [13:52] <supervoltage> hmph..
#1620 [13:53] <supervoltage> I will seek help on another IRC channel then
#1621 [13:53] <dopeghoti> …it's not like I'm theonly one who is here
#1622 [13:53] <dopeghoti> but feel free
#1623 [13:53] <supervoltage> I know
#1624 [13:53] <dopeghoti> see you from work
#1625 [13:53] * Kealper rawrs
#1625 [13:53] <supervoltage> sure
#1626 [13:53] <supervoltage> uh hello keal
#1627 [13:53] <Kealper> what seems to be the issue? lol
#1628 [13:53] <supervoltage> problems with downgrading mc to 1.4
#1629 [13:53] <supervoltage> I have the jar
#1630 [13:54] <supervoltage> an old backup
#1631 [13:54] <supervoltage> hell, I have the whole .minecraft folder
#1632 [13:54] <supervoltage> but whenever I start MC
#1633 [13:54] <supervoltage> and go to SP
#1634 [13:54] <Apoca> Anyone familiar with hosting Minecraft servers?
#1635 [13:54] <supervoltage> it still shows that it's 1.5
#1636 [13:54] <Kealper> and you've deleted everything in the .minecraft folder except the saves folder?
#1637 [13:54] * Szernex [Szernex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1638 [13:54] <supervoltage> I deleted even the saves folder
#1639 [13:54] * xolotl guesses that you're not restoring to the proper place
#1639 [13:54] <Kealper> then that backup is from 1.5 ._.
#1640 [13:55] <xolotl> Or that
#1641 [13:55] <supervoltage> that backup is NOT from 1.5
#1642 [13:55] <xolotl> What's the contents of the "version" file from your backup?
#1643 [13:55] <Kealper> ^
#1644 [13:55] <xolotl> (would be alongside minecraft.jar)
#1645 [13:55] <supervoltage> wait.. I'm gonna check
#1646 [13:55] <Kealper> Apoca: sure, what did you need help with?
#1647 [13:55] <supervoltage> 1303302694000
#1648 [13:55] <xolotl> supervoltage: That is Beta 1.5
#1649 [13:56] <supervoltage> FUCK
#1650 [13:56] <supervoltage> I may have made a mistake
#1651 [13:56] <xolotl> Yes. :)
#1652 [13:56] <supervoltage> and now I lost my 1.4 files :\
#1653 [13:56] <xolotl> (Also, in re: the seeking help on other IRC channels thing - remember that contrary to appearances, IRC isn't truly realtime. Patience is a virtue!)
#1654 [13:57] <supervoltage> huh, I see
#1655 [13:57] <supervoltage> hmm.. I have another Minecraft backup lying around
#1656 [13:57] <Kealper> yeah, people still have to type the response :P
#1657 [13:57] <supervoltage> I don't know what version it is though
#1658 [13:57] <supervoltage> This is the version file:
#1659 [13:57] <supervoltage> 1301991999000
#1660 [13:58] <Kealper> woh, the 1.5_01 version file is like...not a timestamp lol
#1661 [13:58] <Asdf> dopeghoti, did it, the same error with a fresh map
#1662 [13:58] <Kealper> well, seems to be a binary timestamp
#1663 [13:59] * DreadLindwyrm [DreadLindwyrm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1664 [13:59] <Kealper> Asdf: what error?
#1665 [13:59] <Apoca> Kealper: I host and play on the same computer. I have a Phenom II x4 955 CPU and 8GB of RAM, and a 5 Mb/s upload speed. How many people (about) would I be able to host?
#1666 [13:59] <Asdf> Internal server error that kicks whoever places a block off the server, Kealper
#1667 [13:59] <xolotl> supervoltage: That appears to be 1.4_01
#1668 [13:59] <Asdf> but the block is still placed
#1669 [14:00] <Kealper> Apoca: http://canihostaminecraftserver.com i think is the address :P
#1670 [14:00] <supervoltage> huh, gonna install it
#1671 [14:01] <Kealper> Apoca: the upload speed is going to be a bottleneck with the number of people you can host though, as the cpu and ram are decent
#1672 [14:01] <supervoltage> xolotl: Those files seem to be the right ones.. I feel dumb now
#1673 [14:02] <Apoca> How many MB is 8 GB? e-e 8192?
#1674 [14:02] <Kealper> yeah
#1675 [14:02] <xolotl> supervoltage: :) No worries.
#1676 [14:02] <Apoca> Ok, thanks :D
#1677 [14:02] <Kealper> supervoltage: only one worry. "13:53:47 <@Kealper> then that backup is from 1.5 ._."
#1678 [14:03] <Kealper> :P
#1679 [14:03] * TonyMcDanza [TonyMcDanza@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1680 [14:03] * R41 [R41@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1681 [14:03] <g> hm
#1682 [14:03] <supervoltage> kealper:
#1683 [14:03] <supervoltage> 1301991999000
#1684 [14:03] <g> I want to rewrite my bot in C++
#1685 [14:03] <g> but uh
#1686 [14:03] <g> There are no decent Qt-compatible libraries
#1687 [14:04] <Kealper> supervoltage: that was the message that i said earlier, before you even said the timestamps of the version files lol
#1688 [14:04] <g> all I've seen is http://code.google.com/p/libircclient-qt/
#1689 [14:04] <g> which apparently doesn't work
#1690 [14:04] <g> anyone else Know C++? :P
#1691 [14:04] <supervoltage> kealper: oh right :P
#1692 [14:04] <Kealper> McPlusPlus: isn't in C++? lol
#1693 [14:04] <Kealper> fail hilight
#1694 [14:04] <Kealper> right name, didn't mean to direct it at the bot lol
#1695 [14:04] <g> No, it's not
#1696 [14:04] <g> It's in Python
#1697 [14:04] <Kealper> oh xD
#1698 [14:05] <g> Misleading name :P
#1699 [14:05] <Kealper> why do you need a GUI on it :/
#1700 [14:05] * supervoltage [supervoltage@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1701 [14:05] <Kealper> make a console program lol, AuBot is
#1702 [14:05] <g> I don't need a GUI
#1703 [14:05] <g> Qt isn't primarily a GUI library, either
#1704 [14:05] <xolotl> *MY* IRC bot has a 3d-accelerated GUI which requires at least an nVidia GTX 2xx series
#1705 [14:06] <g> lol
#1706 [14:06] <Kealper> lol
#1707 [14:06] <Kealper> intense IRCing is intense
#1708 [14:06] <g> Hm
#1709 [14:06] <Kealper> g: O.o what all can Qt do? lol
#1710 [14:06] <xolotl> All bloom and antialiasing and shit.
#1711 [14:06] <g> I have bin, include and lib already compiled apparently
#1712 [14:06] <g> Kealper: Well, basically everything
#1713 [14:06] <xolotl> You should *see* it handle a PING/PONG exchange
#1714 [14:06] <Kealper> :o
#1715 [14:07] <Kealper> xolotl: lol
#1716 [14:07] <g> OpenGL, networking
#1717 [14:07] <g> GUI,
#1718 [14:07] <xolotl> Also 5.1 sound handling. Okay, I'll shut up now
#1719 [14:07] <g> all sorts of useful stuff
#1720 [14:07] * xolotl resumes lurking
#1720 [14:07] <Kealper> Asdf: sorry, i forgot about you lol...
#1721 [14:07] <g> :P
#1722 [14:07] <Asdf> :(
#1723 [14:07] <bread> :)
#1724 [14:07] <VoxelHead> =]
#1725 [14:07] <g> VoxelHead: stfu :P
#1726 [14:07] <Kealper> Asdf: hmm...happens on any map?
#1727 [14:07] <Asdf> Well, we haven't tried every map in existence
#1728 [14:08] <Asdf> but we tried a newly generated one and it happened
#1729 [14:08] <Kealper> well, more than one would be enough to say yes
#1730 [14:08] <Kealper> the server is running version 1.5_02 right?
#1731 [14:08] <Asdf> Yes
#1732 [14:08] <Kealper> absolutely positive? because server version 1.5_01 crashes if you sneeze wrong
#1733 [14:10] <Kealper> !server redownload it just to be completely sure...just pick the correct link that AuBot is about to give
#1734 [14:10] * Captain-Lightning[2] [Captain-Lightning[2]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1735 [14:10] <Kealper> AuBot: seriously....how do i break you without even touching that part of the code?
#1736 [14:10] <Asdf> I don't think that's a valid link
#1737 [14:10] <Kealper> !server
#1738 [14:10] <Kealper> yeah, my bot was just being dumb :<
#1739 [14:11] <Kealper> hmm.....
#1740 [14:11] * Jordanlw [Jordanlw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1741 [14:11] <Kealper> !server anything after this should be ignored
#1742 [14:11] <Kealper> >.>
#1743 [14:11] <AkiTensai> Something interesting to note. Minecraft crashes on me after update but before the white logo because I have a second monitor turned on. If I already have an instance of Minecraft running, starting a second one doesn't crash while the second monitor is going.
#1744 [14:12] <Kealper> AkiTensai: known issue about second monitors in certain cases
#1745 [14:12] <Kealper> wait, the last part....
#1746 [14:13] * dizzyone [dizzyone@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1747 [14:13] <Kealper> if you already have a minecraft running, any ones lauched after that work fine?
#1748 [14:13] <AkiTensai> ^.^ Yep. I can run later instances of the app just fine while second monitor is still up, I already have an active instance.
#1749 [14:13] <Kealper> weird
#1750 [14:13] <Kealper> stupid bugs ._.
#1751 [14:13] * AkiTensai nods.
#1751 [14:14] <Vector> Kealper
#1752 [14:14] <Vector> were you here when I mentioned I get a black strip over a stair?
#1753 [14:14] <Kealper> according to canihostaminecraftserver.com, i can have 30 people on my server \o/
#1754 [14:14] <Kealper> Vector: idk, but i know of the issue
#1755 [14:14] <Vector> Well, I found out that it's not only my computer that I see that on, and It happened I think when I upgraded to either 1.5 or 1.5_01
#1756 [14:14] <Kealper> Vector: enabling smooth lighting fixes it
#1757 [14:14] <Vector> and i saw it on a different computer as well
#1758 [14:15] <Vector> oh it does?
#1759 [14:15] <AkiTensai> I joked with someone on here about the rain though glass being a small bug, since it had to be a small bug for water to fit though glass was fixed. Apparently its a bad idea to assume if light can get though, water should too. >D
#1760 [14:15] <Kealper> yeah, mine does it too
#1761 [14:15] <Vector> thanks, i'll take note of that for others having the issue
#1762 [14:15] <Kealper> AkiTensai: XD
#1763 [14:16] <Kealper> Vector: and with these massive performance increases i'm seeing in 1.5, smooth lighting doesn't even appear to phase my framerate lol
#1764 [14:16] <Asdf> That site is very informative, I never realised you didn't need a CPU to host MC
#1765 [14:16] <Vector> lol
#1766 [14:16] <Kealper> Asdf: lol
#1767 [14:16] <Vector> eh it's always been kina slow for me
#1768 [14:16] <Vector> but i notice some improvements
#1769 [14:17] <Vector> Notch's level generator code still isn't working right
#1770 [14:17] <Vector> lol
#1771 [14:18] <Vector> I get some dirt blocks way underground, and some blocks are above air blocks
#1772 [14:18] <Vector> lol
#1773 [14:18] <Kealper> you mean the retarded transistions between stuff like grass and sand?
#1774 [14:18] <Vector> lol
#1775 [14:18] <Vector> somewhat
#1776 [14:18] <Kealper> the floating blocks were kept because people like them (source is one of Notch's tweets ever so long ago), and the dirt underground is...where dirt belongs lol
#1777 [14:19] * Mesheke [Mesheke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1778 [14:19] <Asdf> I don't think Notch should listen to people's stupid ideas
#1779 [14:19] <Asdf> Floating blocks are awful
#1780 [14:19] <bread> lol according that site, I could host a total of two people.
#1781 [14:19] <Vector> yes but does dirt belong near bedrock?
#1782 [14:20] <Kealper> idk, i kinda like them if they are a big enough chunk for me to build something on
#1783 [14:20] <Vector> well
#1784 [14:20] <Vector> technically it could
#1785 [14:20] <Kealper> bread: O.o
#1786 [14:20] <VoxelHead> The best kind of it.
#1787 [14:20] <bread> lol
#1788 [14:20] <Asdf> I wouldn't mind a proper floating island, but that's not what happens here
#1789 [14:20] <Asdf> what happens is random, glitchy stuff
#1790 [14:20] <Vector> floating blocks that aren't connected to anything..... ><
#1791 [14:20] <Kealper> oh, you mean single blocks of dirt
#1792 [14:20] <Kealper> yea, that's probably just level generator fail lol
#1793 [14:20] <Vector> i have like 5 next to each other
#1794 [14:20] <Vector> haha
#1795 [14:20] <Asdf> I would rather he just made his level generator to generate levels as he intended them and then see about fulfilling community requests or doing other cool ideas
#1796 [14:20] <VoxelHead> i'm in a bear suit
#1797 [14:20] <Kealper> i was talking about the bigger ones that you can build a small hut on
#1798 [14:21] <Vector> i think it's a bug
#1799 [14:21] <Asdf> Whenever people seem to see stupidly-generated levels they yell "EPIC" and whatnot
#1800 [14:21] <Vector> no i KNOW
#1801 [14:21] <Vector> ;p
#1802 [14:21] <Asdf> makes me argh.
#1803 [14:21] <Kealper> Asdf: for the most part, many of the community's ideas go ignored
#1804 [14:21] <Kealper> and for good reason :/
#1805 [14:22] <Asdf> Looks like the guy I was trying to get tech support for is stupid and using _01
#1806 [14:22] <Asdf> he did download it after _02 came out he says but idk
#1807 [14:23] <Kealper> hmm...so i'm two-for-two for the day so far? meh
#1808 [14:27] * SPaRT [SPaRT@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1809 [14:28] <Asdf> updating fixed it
#1810 [14:29] * bread glomps vox
#1810 [14:29] <VoxelHead> what
#1811 [14:29] <bread> :D
#1812 [14:29] <VoxelHead> :-)
#1813 [14:32] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: have you seen anything decent lately?
#1814 [14:32] <VoxelHead> just this minute actually
#1815 [14:32] <VoxelHead> hi floor... make me a sandwich
#1816 [14:33] * sgiratch [sgiratch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1817 [14:33] * mib_di2cnj [mib_di2cnj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1818 [14:33] <g> Shut up, vox
#1819 [14:33] <mib_di2cnj> hey anyone help me with my mob trap ? :(
#1820 [14:34] <mib_di2cnj> everything works good but the water elevator that takes the mobs to the actual trap
#1821 [14:34] <mib_di2cnj> gets clogged up with mobs because the spawner is too effective :X http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3789/mobtrapy.png
#1822 [14:34] <Kealper> water elevators are not working correctly anymore
#1823 [14:35] <mib_di2cnj> no that one works but its too small
#1824 [14:35] <Kealper> as water elevators were a bug to begin with, that's actually a good thing lol
#1825 [14:35] <Kealper> oh
#1826 [14:35] <mib_di2cnj> its not automated
#1827 [14:35] <mib_di2cnj> the mobs go up because they have nowhere else to go
#1828 [14:35] <mib_di2cnj> but I made the spawner itself too effective and it has too many mobs so they clog it up and none actually go up
#1829 [14:36] <Kealper> lol
#1830 [14:36] <mib_di2cnj> the spawner itself is simple
#1831 [14:37] <mib_di2cnj> but the magic was lighting up every single square within 150 blocks including dungeons ^^
#1832 [14:37] <Kealper> i've never been good with mob grinders, so i can't really help
#1833 [14:37] <mib_di2cnj> :/
#1834 [14:37] <mib_di2cnj> spent a week with it ffs <.<
#1835 [14:38] <Apoca> VoxelHead
#1836 [14:39] * LoneBlackfang [LoneBlackfang@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1837 [14:40] * LoneBlackfang [LoneBlackfang@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1838 [14:44] * sith [sith@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1839 [14:44] <sith> hello?
#1840 [14:44] <Kealper> hi
#1841 [14:44] <sith> try to change your nick to sithrebel15
#1842 [14:45] <Kealper> uhh....
#1843 [14:45] <sith> i wont ghost you
#1844 [14:45] <sith> i want to see if enforce works
#1845 [14:45] <Asdf> Different question:
#1846 [14:45] <Kealper> i'm in idleRPG right now, if i change my nick i get a penalty >>>
#1847 [14:45] <Kealper> >.>*
#1848 [14:45] <sith> lol
#1849 [14:46] <sith> wtf is that
#1850 [14:46] <Asdf> How come most of the time when I launch Minecraft, it uses two of my four cores completely and is slow to the point of unplayability
#1851 [14:46] <Kealper> IdleRPG?
#1852 [14:46] <sith> yea
#1853 [14:46] <Kealper> you win by idling
#1854 [14:46] <Asdf> but sometimes when I launch it it's fine?
#1855 [14:46] <sithrebel15> lol
#1856 [14:46] <sithrebel15> it works
#1857 [14:46] <Kealper> as long as you remain totally idle in the channel that it is running in, you level up
#1858 [14:46] <sithrebel15> ./ns enforce on
#1859 [14:46] <sithrebel15> its awesome
#1860 [14:46] <Guest56431> what channel?
#1861 [14:46] <Kealper> #idle
#1862 [14:47] <Asdf> It seems to mean I'm running out of RAM?
#1863 [14:47] <bread> yay #idle
#1864 [14:47] <VoxelHead> yay #idle... yidle
#1865 [14:47] <Guest56431> hi bread
#1866 [14:47] <bread> >:|
#1867 [14:47] <Guest56431> im sithrebel15
#1868 [14:47] <Guest56431> but i cant use it
#1869 [14:47] <Guest56431> lol
#1870 [14:47] <bread> that's why I >:|
#1871 [14:47] <Kealper> Asdf: sounds like it could be....it might be running in to swap/pagefile
#1872 [14:47] <VoxelHead> We have no time for these games!%percent#*$*!$.
#1873 [14:48] <bread> Kealper: what level are you lol
#1874 [14:48] <bread> in #idle
#1875 [14:48] <Kealper> 48
#1876 [14:48] <bread> :o
#1877 [14:48] <Asdf> so annoying, I don't have enough RAM to do Minecraft and other things.
#1878 [14:48] <Kealper> 49 either today or tomorrow lol
#1879 [14:48] <VoxelHead> Well blow me down.
#1880 [14:48] <bread> I'm 43 :o
#1881 [14:48] <Kealper> >:D
#1882 [14:48] <bread> >:O
#1883 [14:48] <notsithrebel15> what are the classes
#1884 [14:49] <Kealper> Dictator of #MinecraftHelp :P
#1885 [14:49] <NotiCon> oh is it him again
#1886 [14:50] <mib_di2cnj> fffffs
#1887 [14:50] <mib_di2cnj> im about to ragequit minecraftr
#1888 [14:50] <NotiCon> why
#1889 [14:51] <notsithrebel15> lol
#1890 [14:51] <mib_di2cnj> i work
#1891 [14:51] <Kealper> <@IdleRPG> bread, the level 43 breadman, is now online from nickname EllieG.
#1892 [14:51] <mib_di2cnj> for a freaking
#1893 [14:51] <mib_di2cnj> week
#1894 [14:51] <notsithrebel15> my server has /ragequit
#1895 [14:51] <Kealper> bread: you botter
#1896 [14:51] <VoxelHead> Weeeeek.
#1897 [14:51] <mib_di2cnj> OVER
#1898 [14:51] <mib_di2cnj> A WEEK
#1899 [14:51] <mib_di2cnj> AND THEN
#1900 [14:51] <bread> Kealper: :P
#1901 [14:51] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1902 [14:51] <NotiCon> and you type in caps too
#1903 [14:51] <fogWraith> Darn jo, Kealper
#1904 [14:51] <mib_di2cnj> AND THEN
#1905 [14:51] <notsithrebel15> hi'
#1906 [14:51] <mib_di2cnj> http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7506/stupidmobtrapffs.png
#1907 [14:51] <NotiCon> less caps plx
#1908 [14:51] <bread> Kealper: I've got ZNC, but I've also got an away kick
#1909 [14:51] <Kealper> mib_di2cnj: cut it with the caps :/
#1910 [14:51] <bread> er
#1911 [14:51] <bread> away nick
#1912 [14:51] <mib_di2cnj> not that I have enough mobs to get a damn working mob trap ? -.-
#1913 [14:52] <mib_di2cnj> theres like freaking 40 of them down there and they clog the way to the damn trap up -.-
#1914 [14:52] <mib_di2cnj> one of the damn mobs actually gets to the trap part in an hour
#1915 [14:52] <Kealper> so make more paths up to the grinder?
#1916 [14:52] <mib_di2cnj> i have 4 14x14 pads, and waterways in the middle that lead to the one path up
#1917 [14:53] <mib_di2cnj> it cant work in any other way :X
#1918 [14:53] <Asdf> umm quick question, map save location?
#1919 [14:53] <Kealper> sure it can....you just haven't thought of any other way yet :P
#1920 [14:53] <Kealper> Asdf: server or client?
#1921 [14:53] <Asdf> client
#1922 [14:53] <notsithrebel15> aetherian
#1923 [14:53] <NotiCon> os?
#1924 [14:53] <mib_di2cnj> .minecraft folder :P
#1925 [14:53] <aetherian> huh buh wha
#1926 [14:53] <notsithrebel15> hi
#1927 [14:53] <aetherian> oh. hello.
#1928 [14:53] <Asdf> oh
#1929 [14:53] <Asdf> durhr
#1930 [14:54] <Asdf> i was in the folder but i hit 'm' to find minecraft
#1931 [14:54] <Asdf> but it's .minecraft for some reason -.-
#1932 [14:54] <Kealper> windows: %appdata%\.minecraft\saves Linux: ~/.minecraft/saves
#1933 [14:54] <mib_di2cnj> its dotminecraft
#1934 [14:54] <notsithrebel15> someone >change thier nick to sithrebel15
#1935 [14:54] <NotiCon> aetherian: have you see that guy ?
#1936 [14:55] <aetherian> NotiCon: I remember him, yes.
#1937 [14:55] <Kealper> O.o
#1938 [14:55] * Inundated [Inundated@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1939 [14:55] <notsithrebel15> join #idle
#1940 [14:55] <Kealper> /join #idle ftw?
#1941 [14:55] <notsithrebel15> no
#1942 [14:55] <notsithrebel15> all of you join #idle
#1943 [14:56] <Kealper> most of us are already in #idle .->
#1944 [14:56] <Kealper> ._.*
#1945 [14:56] <notsithrebel15> not all
#1946 [14:56] <aetherian> .->!
#1947 [14:56] <Kealper> all who want to be are
#1948 [14:56] <aetherian> well, have fun.
#1949 [14:56] <Kealper> it's useless to be in there if your internet sucks
#1950 [14:57] <fogWraith> nobody in there will answer
#1951 [14:57] <Kealper> notsithrebel15: stop spamming in that channel
#1952 [14:57] <notsithrebel15> um no
#1953 [14:58] <Kealper> suit yourself
#1954 [14:58] * Kealper kicked notsithrebel15 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: notsithrebel15)
#1955 [14:58] * Kealper goes and complains to the opers
#1955 [14:58] <fogWraith> but its not a sith rebel :O
#1956 [14:59] <Robdgreat> k12. imagine that
#1957 [14:59] * drozh [drozh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1958 [14:59] <drozh> hello, need help
#1959 [14:59] <bokaholic> :I
#1960 [15:00] <Robdgreat> drozh: going to need a bit more info, I think
#1961 [15:00] <drozh> i have bought a gift code for a frend, but i dont see it anywhere
#1962 [15:00] <Kealper> drozh: you checked the bottom of your profile page?
#1963 [15:00] * Morrolan [Morrolan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1964 [15:03] <drozh> oh, i have it find now, thanks
#1965 [15:05] * CelesteA [CelesteA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1966 [15:05] * Chrisjon [Chrisjon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1967 [15:06] * BarryCarlyon [BarryCarlyon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1968 [15:08] <dopeghoti> Kealper: ?
#1969 [15:09] * Ronjoe [Ronjoe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1970 [15:10] * xolotl gets around to actually organizing his .minecraft backups and version-number "database"
#1970 [15:11] * VoxelHead passes it on to ArmEagle
#1970 [15:11] <xolotl> (where "database" == text file)
#1971 [15:11] <bread> herp == derp
#1972 [15:11] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: hmm?
#1973 [15:12] * Auv5 [Auv5@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1974 [15:13] <NotiCon> hurr == durr
#1975 [15:13] * pudgetta [pudgetta@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1976 [15:14] <bread> \o/
#1977 [15:15] <pudgetta> Hello! When i´m starting minecraft I can go to the "MOJANG" screen but then it crashes. How can I fix it?
#1978 [15:16] <Morrolan> Did you install any mods?
#1979 [15:17] <pudgetta> no
#1980 [15:17] * Ichigo958 [Ichigo958@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1981 [15:17] <Ichigo958> I need help
#1982 [15:17] <Morrolan> Ichigo: Ask then.
#1983 [15:17] <Ichigo958> Minecraft does not work on my computer for some reason
#1984 [15:17] <pudgetta> Could it be any problems with Java
#1985 [15:17] <pudgetta> ?
#1986 [15:17] <pudgetta> Me to
#1987 [15:17] <Ichigo958> Yes
#1988 [15:17] <Morrolan> Pudgetta: Did it work before?
#1989 [15:17] <pudgetta> yes
#1990 [15:17] <Morrolan> Ichigo: Do you get any error?
#1991 [15:18] <Morrolan> Pudgetta: Then most likey not.
#1992 [15:18] <Ichigo958> Yes
#1993 [15:18] <Ichigo958> It says
#1994 [15:18] <pudgetta> yes
#1995 [15:18] <Ichigo958> Login failed
#1996 [15:18] <Ichigo958> I can only play single player
#1997 [15:18] <pudgetta> aha
#1998 [15:18] <Ichigo958> I have my correct information
#1999 [15:18] <Ichigo958> So I do not know why it is not working
#2000 [15:18] <pudgetta> Do you have a minecraft account?
#2001 [15:18] <Ichigo958> Yes
#2002 [15:18] <Morrolan> Ichigo: This happens when logging in to the launcher?
#2003 [15:18] <Ichigo958> Yes
#2004 [15:18] <Morrolan> If yes, did you try to reset your password already?
#2005 [15:19] <pudgetta> Test to download the launcher again
#2006 [15:19] <Ichigo958> I tried to
#2007 [15:19] <Ichigo958> But I got an error with that
#2008 [15:19] <Morrolan> Oh right.
#2009 [15:19] <Morrolan> It's down at the moment.
#2010 [15:19] <Morrolan> My fault.
#2011 [15:19] <Ichigo958> -_-
#2012 [15:19] * sigurdtheone [sigurdtheone@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2013 [15:19] <Ichigo958> Is this going to be fixed soon
#2014 [15:19] <Morrolan> I hope so.
#2015 [15:19] <Ichigo958> Sigh
#2016 [15:19] <Morrolan> Anyway, back to your problem.
#2017 [15:19] <pudgetta> mine?
#2018 [15:20] <Morrolan> Ichigo958:Could it be that something is blocking it? Firewall, security software, ...?
#2019 [15:20] <Ichigo958> Failed to send email: java.lang.RuntimeException: java.sql.SQLException: Column Index out of range, 17 > 16.
#2020 [15:20] <Morrolan> Pudgetta: huh
#2021 [15:20] <pudgetta> I don´t think so
#2022 [15:20] <Morrolan> Euhm, sorry, not PUdgetta
#2023 [15:20] <Ichigo958> Um I don't think its blocked
#2024 [15:21] <Morrolan> Pudgetta: Do you know how to check the java console for the error?
#2025 [15:21] <pudgetta> No
#2026 [15:21] <Ichigo958> Okay I guess no one is going to help me out
#2027 [15:21] <pudgetta> I can try to figure it out
#2028 [15:21] <Morrolan> Ichigo: Some patience might help...
#2029 [15:21] <Morrolan> Pudgetta: What OS are you using?
#2030 [15:22] <pudgetta> Did you get minecraft from www.minecraft.net
#2031 [15:22] <pudgetta> ?
#2032 [15:22] <Ichigo958> Who?
#2033 [15:22] <pudgetta> you
#2034 [15:22] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti, GreyVulpine, xolotl: Sorry for the highlighting, but does anyone of you have time right now?
#2035 [15:22] <Ichigo958> Duh
#2036 [15:22] <pudgetta> I´m using windows Vista
#2037 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> the time is currently 1222 MST
#2038 [15:22] <Morrolan> Pudgetta: To enable the console: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/javaconsole.xml
#2039 [15:23] <pudgetta> ok
#2040 [15:23] <Ichigo958> Should I do the same Morr
#2041 [15:23] <Ichigo958> ?
#2042 [15:23] <Morrolan> Ichigo: It can't hurt I guess, there might be something useful in there.
#2043 [15:23] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Last time I checked the earth was a sphere. :p
#2044 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: sadly you are mistaken
#2045 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> it is actually an oblate spheroid
#2046 [15:24] * BarryCarlyon [BarryCarlyon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2047 [15:24] <sigurdtheone> Yay! science is helpfull!
#2048 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> (i. e. the poles are flatter and the equator bulges)
#2049 [15:24] <Ichigo958> Okay
#2050 [15:24] <Ichigo958> Well
#2051 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> (that is also why I specified a time zone)
#2052 [15:24] <Ichigo958> Nothings happening
#2053 [15:25] <Morrolan> Ichigo: There should be the java icon (a cup of coffee) in the taskbar at the bottom right of your screen.
#2054 [15:25] <Ichigo958> i dont see one
#2055 [15:25] <pudgetta> It´s still not working!
#2056 [15:26] <Ichigo958> How come my java icon wont apper
#2057 [15:26] <Morrolan> Open settings -> java -> advanced again, open the bottommost expandable thingy, there should be an option to show it in the taskbar.
#2058 [15:27] <Ichigo958> I dont see it still
#2059 [15:27] <Morrolan> huh.
#2060 [15:27] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Any idea where it's hiding?
#2061 [15:28] * andResin [andResin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2062 [15:28] <andResin> why in my world never rain/snow?
#2063 [15:28] <Ichigo958> Well
#2064 [15:28] <Ichigo958> I guess I wasted money
#2065 [15:28] <Morrolan> andResin: You might have been unlucky, dunno.
#2066 [15:28] <pudgetta> Does anybody have an idea? My question: Hello! When i´m starting minecraft I can go to the "MOJANG" screen but then it crashes. How can I fix it?
#2067 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: you're looking for the Java tray icon in Windows?
#2068 [15:29] <Kealper> pudgetta: has it ever worked for you?
#2069 [15:29] <Morrolan> Yep
#2070 [15:29] <Ichigo958> I have Windows XP\
#2071 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> Not sure; I don't run a lot of Windows; IME it's usually only there when you have a pending update
#2072 [15:29] <Ichigo958> By the way
#2073 [15:29] <pudgetta> Yes until a few houes ago
#2074 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> ??> pudgetta win/reinst
#2075 [15:29] <VoxelHead> pudgetta: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2076 [15:29] <VoxelHead> pudgetta: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2077 [15:29] <Ichigo958> Okay now about my problem...
#2078 [15:30] <Ichigo958> I don't see the java tray icon
#2079 [15:30] <sigurdtheone> .. and remember to backup your eventual savegames
#2080 [15:30] <Morrolan> Ichigo. Maybe you need to reboot your PC for that setting to take effect. :/
#2081 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> sigurdtheone: the saves are not in the bin directory (:
#2082 [15:30] <Ichigo958> Ill try that
#2083 [15:30] <Ichigo958> Brb
#2084 [15:30] <Morrolan> Ok.
#2085 [15:31] <pudgetta> It doesn´t work now eighter
#2086 [15:31] <sigurdtheone> Sorry, i read it as "delete the .minecraft directory" >.<
#2087 [15:31] * Shnaw [Shnaw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2088 [15:31] <Morrolan> Pudgetta: Still crashing at the Mojang screen?
#2089 [15:32] <pudgetta> yes
#2090 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> ??> pudgetta win/profile
#2091 [15:32] <VoxelHead> pudgetta: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2092 [15:32] <VoxelHead> pudgetta: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2093 [15:32] <Morrolan> And with a new user profile he means a new WINDOWS user.
#2094 [15:32] <Morrolan> Not a minecraft account. ;)
#2095 [15:32] * peru__ [peru__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2096 [15:32] <pudgetta> now the launcher says Play Offline (not downloaded)?
#2097 [15:33] <Morrolan> Pudgetta: That's ok.
#2098 [15:33] <Morrolan> Happens because we (or rather you) deleted the bin folder.
#2099 [15:34] <pudgetta> Someone said I was going to do that
#2100 [15:34] <Morrolan> Yea, that's ok.
#2101 [15:34] <Morrolan> Wait, doesn't the Mojang screen appear AFTER the files were downloaded?
#2102 [15:34] <andResin> somebody know a seed for a snow world?
#2103 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> andResin: IIRC there's no such thing as a 'snow world'
#2104 [15:35] <sigurdtheone> "Ice" i think, not a snow world but you spawn in a snow biome
#2105 [15:35] <Morrolan> andResin: Every world has snow biome, just walk for a while. On the other hand there is no snow world.
#2106 [15:35] <Morrolan> Pudgetta: To be completely clear, when exactly does it crash now?
#2107 [15:36] <SlashLife^m> There "might" be, but IF it exists, it'd be hard to find and actually rather a glitch of the map generator
#2108 [15:36] <Morrolan> Because Play Offline (not downloaded) means that it crashed before it was able to sucessfully download the files, but the Mojang screen appears after the files are downloaded IIRC.
#2109 [15:36] <SlashLife^m> @ andResin
#2110 [15:37] * Ichigo958 [Ichigo958@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2111 [15:38] <pudgetta> at the mojang screen
#2112 [15:38] <Morrolan> Ah, wb.
#2113 [15:38] <Morrolan> Ichigo: I hope the java icon is there now?
#2114 [15:38] <Ichigo958> Nope
#2115 [15:38] <Ichigo958> Not there
#2116 [15:38] <Morrolan> Gah
#2117 [15:38] * Mesheke [Mesheke@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2118 [15:38] * DeniCevap [DeniCevap@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2119 [15:38] <Morrolan> Time for me to do some googling then. :/
#2120 [15:39] <pudgetta> ok
#2121 [15:40] <Morrolan> Ichigo: Oh, you ARE running a java programm (e.g. Minecraft) at the moment?
#2122 [15:40] <Ichigo958> Nope
#2123 [15:40] <Morrolan> Because it only shows up if a Java app is actually running. :D
#2124 [15:40] <Ichigo958> Well
#2125 [15:40] <pudgetta> goto javas page
#2126 [15:40] * ddaaa [ddaaa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2127 [15:40] <Ichigo958> I do not know why
#2128 [15:40] <Ichigo958> It wont show up
#2129 [15:41] <pudgetta> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?jre_version=1.6.0_24&vendor=Sun+Microsystems+Inc.&os=Windows+Vista&os_version=6.0
#2130 [15:41] <Ichigo958> I think the download links are broken
#2131 [15:41] <pudgetta> goto that
#2132 [15:41] <pudgetta> you will se the java icon
#2133 [15:41] <Ichigo958> Nope
#2134 [15:41] <Ichigo958> Dont see it
#2135 [15:41] <Ichigo958> Im running Windows XP by the way
#2136 [15:42] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2137 [15:42] <Ichigo958> Hello>
#2138 [15:42] <pudgetta> Have you installed java?
#2139 [15:42] <VoxelHead> Orange.
#2140 [15:43] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: you like oranges?
#2141 [15:43] <Ichigo958> I think
#2142 [15:43] <VoxelHead> who knows
#2143 [15:43] <Ichigo958> Im not sure
#2144 [15:43] * Shnaw [Shnaw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2145 [15:44] <ddaaa> hi any1 can help me with some login problems?
#2146 [15:44] <Morrolan> ?? ask
#2147 [15:44] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2148 [15:44] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2149 [15:44] <ddaaa> bought the game on friends computer can log in account on his PC but not my own
#2150 [15:45] <bokaholic> brrrrrb
#2151 [15:45] * Ichigo958 [Ichigo958@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2152 [15:45] <Ichigo958> Okay well I do nnot know what to do
#2153 [15:45] <Ichigo958> And no one is here
#2154 [15:45] <Ichigo958> How awesome
#2155 [15:46] <Morrolan> Sorry, might want to hang around a bit here though, might be that someone who knows what
#2156 [15:46] <Morrolan> Oh great...
#2157 [15:46] <Kealper> if he comes in here again and complains when he doesn't get a response in 15 seconds, i'm kickbanning him
#2158 [15:46] <Morrolan> Ddaaa: Does it show you any error?
#2159 [15:46] * Ichigo958 [Ichigo958@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2160 [15:46] <aetherian> oboy
#2161 [15:46] <Kealper> Ichigo958: stop being so impatient
#2162 [15:47] <ddaaa> ye well on friends PC i can log in only to play in browser
#2163 [15:47] <ddaaa> thats 1
#2164 [15:47] <ddaaa> but cant log into that account on other PC
#2165 [15:47] <Morrolan> ddaaa: Yes, but what does it show you when you try in to log in from that other PC?
#2166 [15:47] <Morrolan> when you try to log in*
#2167 [15:47] <ddaaa> aaand they both on the same network idk if that means anything
#2168 [15:48] <Morrolan> Well, this way we know that it's not the firewall which is blocking it, which is good.
#2169 [15:48] <Morrolan> (Or the router)
#2170 [15:48] * LordTrevor [LordTrevor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2171 [15:48] <Morrolan> Anyway, again: Does it show you an error when you try to log in?
#2172 [15:48] <Morrolan> Like, "login failed" "could not connect to minecraft.net" or something like this?
#2173 [15:49] <ddaaa> ye "wrong username or pass"
#2174 [15:49] <Ichigo958> Who me?
#2175 [15:49] <Morrolan> ddaaa: Oh, you're already the second guy with this then.
#2176 [15:49] <Morrolan> And you are absolutely sure that your username and password are correct?
#2177 [15:49] <ddaaa> and i did checked 3-4 times his PC mine PC his... there it work here it doesnt idk what to do
#2178 [15:49] <Ichigo958> Same here
#2179 [15:50] <Ichigo958> Okay now, how can I download Java?
#2180 [15:50] <aetherian> through the internet...?
#2181 [15:50] <Morrolan> http://www.java.com/de/download/chrome.jsp?locale=de
#2182 [15:50] <Morrolan> or, well, not locale=de if you're not german/swiss/austrain
#2183 [15:50] <Ichigo958> This isnt in english
#2184 [15:50] <Ichigo958> Im from america
#2185 [15:50] <Ichigo958> -_-
#2186 [15:50] <VoxelHead> :)
#2187 [15:50] <Morrolan> Just go to Java.com and press "downloads" ...
#2188 [15:51] <ddaaa> is mojang somehow blocking IPs to prevent possible hacks or something like that?
#2189 [15:51] <Kealper> ddaaa: they don't block IPs
#2190 [15:51] <sigurdtheone> http://java.com/en/download/
#2191 [15:51] <Kealper> ddaaa: what is the exact error that you get when you try to log in?
#2192 [15:51] <VoxelHead> Let me consult a fortune cookie.
#2193 [15:51] <Morrolan> "wrong username or pass"
#2194 [15:51] <Kealper> oh....hmm
#2195 [15:51] <Morrolan> So it's not that other error which is because of someone trying to log in as him too often.
#2196 [15:52] * bokaholic [bokaholic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2197 [15:52] <Kealper> ddaaa: are you 120% positive that you are getting the right username/pass?
#2198 [15:52] <ddaaa> yes
#2199 [15:52] <ddaaa> 200% checked few times :/
#2200 [15:52] <sigurdtheone> Ehm, sorry for doing this to you ddaaa, but you have Caps Lock turned off right? :)
#2201 [15:52] <Kealper> ddaaa: username?
#2202 [15:52] <ddaaa> no i dont lol checked that too
#2203 [15:52] <Ichigo958> I found the reason why Java wont upload
#2204 [15:53] <Ichigo958> I have an older version of Java
#2205 [15:53] <Kealper> ddaaa: no, i mean what is your username?
#2206 [15:53] <aetherian> I'll be back later.
#2207 [15:55] <Ichigo958> Okay I removed my older version of Java
#2208 [15:55] <Ichigo958> And it still wont work
#2209 [15:55] * Sinnersaix [Sinnersaix@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2210 [15:55] <Kealper> Ichigo958: what issue are you having, anyways?
#2211 [15:55] <Morrolan> Same as ddaaa IIRC.
#2212 [15:55] <Ichigo958> 1) When I try to log onto the minecraft launcher it says login failed
#2213 [15:56] <Ichigo958> I am running on Windows XP Pro
#2214 [15:56] <Kealper> what about the website?
#2215 [15:56] * Razorflame [Razorflame@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2216 [15:56] <Ichigo958> What website?
#2217 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> minecraft.net
#2218 [15:56] <Kealper> minecraft.net
#2219 [15:56] <Ichigo958> What about it?
#2220 [15:56] <Kealper> can you log in o that?
#2221 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> can you log in there?
#2222 [15:56] <sigurdtheone> Can you log in there? can you ping it at all?
#2223 [15:56] <Kealper> in to that*
#2224 [15:56] <Ichigo958> Yes
#2225 [15:56] <Ichigo958> I can
#2226 [15:56] <Razorflame> :D
#2227 [15:56] <Razorflame> Multiple helpers :)
#2228 [15:56] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2229 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> then, in the client, remove your username and password, and re-enter them both.
#2230 [15:56] <ddaaa> not exactly same i cant log in to website and is it wise to put my username on here? -.o
#2231 [15:57] <Kealper> ddaaa: doesn't matter in this channel
#2232 [15:57] <Ichigo958> Wait what?
#2233 [15:57] <Ichigo958> Do what?
#2234 [15:57] <Morrolan> log in at minecraft.net
#2235 [15:57] <Morrolan> a) go to www.minecraft.net
#2236 [15:57] <Kealper> infact it doesn't really matter at all, since any time you join a multiplayer server all the players get your username anyways
#2237 [15:58] <Razorflame> ^
#2238 [15:58] <Morrolan> b) press "log in" in the top right
#2239 [15:58] <Morrolan> c) ...
#2240 [15:58] <Morrolan> d) tell us if it works
#2241 [15:58] <ddaaa> thtas true
#2242 [15:58] <Kealper> so... ddaaa what is your username?
#2243 [15:58] <Razorflame> ohai morrolan
#2244 [15:58] <Morrolan> Hey. :D
#2245 [15:58] <Morrolan> ddaaa: If you prefer you can pm it to one of us as well.
#2246 [15:58] <Ichigo958> OMG
#2247 [15:58] <Ichigo958> OMG
#2248 [15:58] <g> e) ???
#2249 [15:58] <Ichigo958> IT WORK
#2250 [15:58] <ddaaa> its deldave but how it helps?
#2251 [15:58] <g> f) Profit.
#2252 [15:58] <Ichigo958> OMG
#2253 [15:58] <Ichigo958> YOMG
#2254 [15:58] <VoxelHead> :O
#2255 [15:58] <Morrolan> g: I actually didn't want to make that reference. :D
#2256 [15:58] <g> Vox, shut up
#2257 [15:59] <VoxelHead> *talks to Odysimus instead*
#2258 [15:59] <g> Morrolan: :P
#2259 [15:59] <Morrolan> !haspaid deldave
#2260 [15:59] <Kealper> it's !paid
#2261 [15:59] <sigurdtheone> 1. Collect Underpants
#2262 [15:59] <Morrolan> shees
#2263 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> try s/has//
#2264 [15:59] <Morrolan> thanks
#2265 [15:59] <sigurdtheone> 2. ...
#2266 [15:59] <g> !paid deldave
#2267 [15:59] <sigurdtheone> 3. Profit
#2268 [15:59] <Kealper> hmm
#2269 [15:59] <g> Oh hey
#2270 [15:59] <Kealper> ddaaa: it doesn't let you log in on minecraft.net either?
#2271 [15:59] <ddaaa> o.o
#2272 [15:59] <g> My C++ bot connects!
#2273 [16:00] <g> woot
#2274 [16:00] <ddaaa> no
#2275 [16:00] <ddaaa> it does
#2276 [16:00] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2277 [16:00] * Razorflame [Razorflame@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2278 [16:00] <Morrolan> g:Huh, hope you gave that poor guy a condom before letting him dive into a Java app? :D
#2279 [16:00] <ddaaa> but only on the computer i bought the account thru
#2280 [16:00] <g> Morrolan: lol
#2281 [16:00] <g> inb4bot
#2282 [16:01] <ddaaa> which is unfortunately not my but friends >.>
#2283 [16:01] * gTestBot [gTestBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2284 [16:01] <g> (hopefully)
#2285 [16:01] <g> Yup
#2286 [16:01] <g> there it is
#2287 [16:01] <g> And guess what?
#2288 [16:01] <g> It does absolutely nothing
#2289 [16:01] <g> :P
#2290 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> not true
#2291 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> it connect to IRC, and joins a channel.
#2292 [16:01] <Morrolan> Ah, connecting to the channel, not to a Minecraft server.
#2293 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> s/connect/&s/
#2294 [16:01] <g> lol
#2295 [16:01] <Kealper> ddaaa: were you letting the browser put the information in for you? or did you type it out on your friend's computer?
#2296 [16:01] <g> What are those weird little strings you keep saying?
#2297 [16:01] <Morrolan> correction of his mistakes.
#2298 [16:01] <g> Oh right
#2299 [16:02] <Morrolan> You most likely would use *connects
#2300 [16:02] <ddaaa> what info.?
#2301 [16:02] <g> Why not just say
#2302 [16:02] <g> connects*
#2303 [16:02] <Kealper> ddaaa: your username and password
#2304 [16:02] <ddaaa> user and pass retyped ea time
#2305 [16:02] <Kealper> that's...odd
#2306 [16:02] <Kealper> ddaaa: can you even get on minecraft.net on your computer?
#2307 [16:02] <g> I wonder if it connects faster if I build release?
#2308 [16:03] <ddaaa> no only on friends
#2309 [16:03] <g> hm
#2310 [16:03] <g> There's no release version of the lib? what?
#2311 [16:03] <ddaaa> i bought it there and it works only there
#2312 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> ??> ddaaa win/hosts
#2313 [16:03] <VoxelHead> ddaaa: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2314 [16:03] <VoxelHead> ddaaa: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2315 [16:04] <Kealper> ddaaa: answer this as truthfully as possible...you won't be yelled at if you say yes....
#2316 [16:05] <Kealper> ddaaa: did you use a pirated copy of minecraft on your computer?
#2317 [16:05] <Kealper> ddaaa: at any time, ever
#2318 [16:05] * gTestBot [gTestBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2319 [16:06] <g> It doesn't connect any faster
#2320 [16:06] <g> lol
#2321 [16:06] <ddaaa> i played 1.3 singleplayer version so yes
#2322 [16:06] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2323 [16:06] <Kealper> ddaaa: ok then, do you know how to get to your Windows folder?
#2324 [16:07] * cbreaker [cbreaker@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2325 [16:07] <ddaaa> # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#2326 [16:07] <ddaaa> #
#2327 [16:07] <ddaaa> # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
#2328 [16:07] <ddaaa> #
#2329 [16:07] <ddaaa> # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
#2330 [16:07] <ddaaa> # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
#2331 [16:07] <ddaaa> # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
#2332 [16:07] <_303> fff
#2333 [16:07] <bread> lol
#2334 [16:07] <ddaaa> 127.0.0.1 ereg.adobe.com
#2335 [16:07] <ddaaa> 127.0.0.1 activate.wip3.adobe.com
#2336 [16:07] <ddaaa> 127.0.0.1 wip3.adobe.com
#2337 [16:07] <ddaaa> 127.0.0.1 3dns-3.adobe.com
#2338 [16:07] <ddaaa> 127.0.0.1 3dns-2.adobe.com
#2339 [16:07] <ddaaa> 127.0.0.1 adobe-dns.adobe.com
#2340 [16:07] <g> lol
#2341 [16:07] <bread> ^
#2342 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> ?? pastebin
#2343 [16:07] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#2344 [16:07] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#2345 [16:08] <Kealper> wow
#2346 [16:08] <ddaaa> he said "show us the result" lol soz
#2347 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> show us the result _via pastebin_
#2348 [16:08] <Kealper> i only asked if you knew how to get into your Windows folder >.>
#2349 [16:08] <Kealper> but yes, that is what i was going to have you open....lol
#2350 [16:08] <ddaaa> yes
#2351 [16:09] <Kealper> is there an entry for minecraft.net in there?
#2352 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> (clearly you're at the very least using a cracked copy of something from Adobe. My money's on Photoshop.
#2353 [16:09] <g> I like how ddaaa pirates adobe products
#2354 [16:09] <g> :P
#2355 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> )
#2356 [16:09] <Kealper> ^
#2357 [16:09] <bread> lolol
#2358 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> (your money clearly is not)
#2359 [16:09] <Kealper> XD
#2360 [16:09] <g> xD
#2361 [16:09] <bread> hahahhhaha
#2362 [16:09] <VoxelHead> well, have you the brain worms?
#2363 [16:10] <Kealper> VoxelHead: yes
#2364 [16:10] <bread> Yes, vox, I do.
#2365 [16:10] <bread> lol my bot randomly said 'knickers' into a channel.
#2366 [16:10] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2367 [16:10] <bread> made me lol
#2368 [16:10] <g> lol
#2369 [16:10] <bread> lol
#2370 [16:10] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2371 [16:10] <g> "That is all."
#2372 [16:11] <Kealper> ddaaa: is there anything containing "minecraft.net" inside your hosts file?
#2373 [16:11] <Morrolan> ddaaa: Still here?
#2374 [16:11] * peru [peru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2375 [16:11] <g> He's like "onoes dey gonna report me"
#2376 [16:11] <ddaaa> no
#2377 [16:11] <Kealper> g: lol
#2378 [16:11] <Kealper> hmm...
#2379 [16:12] <g> :P
#2380 [16:12] * peru_ [peru_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2381 [16:12] <linduxed> requesting help with the following issue: http://is.gd/M9g2pL
#2382 [16:12] <g> Fiahwawl?
#2383 [16:12] <Morrolan> Linduxed: Ah, wb, hope someone will be able to help you now. :)
#2384 [16:12] <g> lol, can my bot is.gd an is.gd?
#2385 [16:12] <g> ~title
#2386 [16:12] <McPlusPlus> HTTP Error 400: Bad Request
#2387 [16:12] <Kealper> :<
#2388 [16:12] <g> thought not
#2389 [16:12] <g> :P
#2390 [16:12] <sigurdtheone> Its funny because 95% of the worlds "young" population uses or have used cracked software.
#2391 [16:12] <VoxelHead> Thought not... thot.
#2392 [16:13] <Kealper> ddaaa: do you have any firewall or antivirus software installed?
#2393 [16:13] <g> linduxed: You're using openjdk.
#2394 [16:13] <g> That causes a lot of problems with MC in general
#2395 [16:13] <Morrolan> "I'm using the latest JDK 1.7 snapshot as recommended in the #minecrafthelp channel on esper"
#2396 [16:13] <g> Yeah
#2397 [16:14] <g> Then he mentions openjdk
#2398 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> linduxed: I don't know who would have advised using the unstable JRE1.7
#2399 [16:14] <Morrolan> Yea, he WAS using this.
#2400 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> USe the known-good, known-compatible JRE1.6
#2401 [16:14] <Kealper> ^
#2402 [16:14] <g> Wait
#2403 [16:14] <_303> DopeGhoti: he can't use sun's apparently.
#2404 [16:14] <g> JDK
#2405 [16:14] <g> not JRE
#2406 [16:14] <linduxed> g: i say specifically that the same issue was present in openjdk, but now i'm using 1.7
#2407 [16:14] <linduxed> g: sun version
#2408 [16:14] <g> Why jdk?
#2409 [16:14] <g> That's not needed at all
#2410 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> linduxed: again, use 1.6
#2411 [16:14] <g> You just need the jre
#2412 [16:15] <linduxed> g: well it includes the jre so i fetched it all
#2413 [16:15] * g shrugs
#2413 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> g: JDK is a superset of JRE, it doesn't hurt.
#2414 [16:15] <g> As long as it's sun's version
#2415 [16:15] <xolotl> s/sun/oracle/, for clarity's sake
#2416 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> still, 1.7 is in development and not known to be stable (kind of line Minecraft, heh). Use JRE1.6
#2417 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> s/line/likke/
#2418 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> FFS
#2419 [16:15] <aetherian> wat
#2420 [16:16] <aetherian> oh nice, dope.
#2421 [16:16] <g> Why do people use these silly correction lines?
#2422 [16:16] <g> like*
#2423 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> "/load scripts/aspell.pl"
#2424 [16:16] <linduxed> DopeGhoti: i'll try getting the 1.6 one, but as mentioned i'm having the same "everything is blue"-issue with both sun-1.7 as i had with openjdk (icedtea) 1.6
#2425 [16:16] * Jackson413 [Jackson413@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2426 [16:16] <g> DopeGhoti: So?
#2427 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> don't use OpenJDK 1.6, use the Oracle 1.6 JRE/JDK
#2428 [16:16] <g> Teaching the bot to spell?
#2429 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> g: no, being annoyed at my own misspelling and mistypings, and wishing to correct myself.
#2430 [16:17] <g> Yeah
#2431 [16:17] <g> but why use that format?
#2432 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> because I'm a dork.
#2433 [16:17] <g> Same, but I'm a lazy dork
#2434 [16:17] <bread> 8D
#2435 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> (and that's the format I use to make similar corrections in text editors)
#2436 [16:17] <g> Oh right
#2437 [16:17] <g> Vim
#2438 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> and sed.
#2439 [16:17] * g vomits in a bucket
#2439 [16:18] <g> :P
#2440 [16:18] <bread> lol
#2441 [16:18] <bread> yay vim
#2442 [16:18] <Morrolan> You just crafted... a bucket of puke!
#2443 [16:18] <g> What's wrong with "normal" editors
#2444 [16:18] <g> like nano
#2445 [16:18] <linduxed> omg
#2446 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> lack of capability.
#2447 [16:18] <g> Morrolan: lol
#2448 [16:18] * bokaholic sings o/~
#2448 [16:18] <g> DopeGhoti: I like to be able to move properly through a document and make edits quickly
#2449 [16:18] <Morrolan> g: Well, if using vim you can say that you're pro enough to actually use it. :D
#2450 [16:18] <Morrolan> Well, when using*
#2451 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> g: it's for the same reason that I use vim.
#2452 [16:18] <g> Morrolan: lol good point
#2453 [16:19] <linduxed> comparing nano with vim is like comparing a felt pen with a typewriter
#2454 [16:19] <g> DopeGhoti: You have to type commands to do anything, how is that fast?
#2455 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> you have to use arrow keys to go anywhere; how is that fast?
#2456 [16:19] <g> Page up, page down, CTRL+W
#2457 [16:19] <g> CTRL+G
#2458 [16:19] <Morrolan> I guess it's somehow a bit like Blender, as soon as you know all the key combinations you can be pretty fast.
#2459 [16:19] <bread> ^
#2460 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> /needle
#2461 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> n
#2462 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> <line-number>G
#2463 [16:20] * skippydippy [skippydippy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2464 [16:20] <g> CTRL+G
#2465 [16:20] <g> <line number>ENTER
#2466 [16:20] <skippydippy> Hello?
#2467 [16:20] <bread> Hostess.
#2468 [16:20] <Morrolan> Hey skippydippy
#2469 [16:20] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :[
#2470 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> morning, skippydippy , how may we stop our editor evangelism and be hulpful today?
#2471 [16:20] <bread> lol
#2472 [16:20] <g> :P
#2473 [16:20] <Morrolan> Ignore those guys above you, just your average Windows office vs vim fight. :)
#2474 [16:20] * jacobat [jacobat@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2475 [16:20] <g> s/hulpful/helpful
#2476 [16:20] <g> xD
#2477 [16:20] <VoxelHead> You suck at the regular expression syntax.
#2478 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> \o
#2479 [16:20] <bread> lol vox
#2480 [16:21] <g> Morrolan: lol office
#2481 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> (you were missing a trailing slash)
#2482 [16:21] <g> ah :P
#2483 [16:21] <Morrolan> Euhm Microsoft office*
#2484 [16:21] * CelesteA [CelesteA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2485 [16:21] <g> Morrolan: I said nano
#2486 [16:21] <g> :P
#2487 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> ANYhow
#2488 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2489 [16:21] <g> Indeed, anyhow
#2490 [16:21] <jacobat> Are there any better ways to find iron? I've just been digging through stone for hours and only hitting very little iron
#2491 [16:21] <Morrolan> g: Nano? How on earth is an iPod a good text editor? :D
#2492 [16:21] * g gets back to rewriting his bot in C++
#2492 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> please, skippydippy, interrupt us (:
#2493 [16:21] <g> Morrolan: lolwut
#2494 [16:22] <Morrolan> Sorry. :D
#2495 [16:22] <NotiCon> g: you rewriting it? O:
#2496 [16:22] <g> :P
#2497 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> jacobat: as you did through stone, and you hit dirt or gravel pockets
#2498 [16:22] <g> NotiCon: yeah
#2499 [16:22] <g> It'll be much more efficient and easier to read in C++
#2500 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> jacobat: dig those out too, IME they often lead to ores
#2501 [16:22] <VoxelHead> Mmmmmm, damned point.
#2502 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> vox, be quiet
#2503 [16:22] <Morrolan> skippydippy: How may we help you?
#2504 [16:22] <VoxelHead> :(
#2505 [16:22] <g> :P
#2506 [16:22] <g> I still think ~stfu is better xD
#2507 [16:22] <jacobat> DopeGhoti: Thans
#2508 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> I try to be polite, even to bots :p
#2509 [16:23] <g> :P
#2510 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> when they take over, they might regocnize this and allow me to live.
#2511 [16:23] <g> Goin' to space, goin' there. Can't wait, gotta go. Space. Going. Better buy a telescope. Wanna see me? Buy a telescope. Gonna be in space.
#2512 [16:24] <g> :P
#2513 [16:27] <bread> well then
#2514 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> glad to be of service, skippy.
#2515 [16:28] * Daniel_qwerty [Daniel_qwerty@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2516 [16:28] * bread _dvorak
#2516 [16:29] * sithrebel15 [sithrebel15@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2517 [16:29] <Morrolan> Completely unrelated: From where are these AG_ guys? Allgamer.net?
#2518 [16:29] <sithrebel15> lol
#2519 [16:30] <sithrebel15> !version
#2520 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#2521 [16:30] <AG_Scott> yes
#2522 [16:30] <Morrolan> Ah, ok.
#2523 [16:31] <sithrebel15> ?
#2524 [16:31] <NotiCon> ??
#2525 [16:31] <VoxelHead> mmm CelesteA
#2526 [16:31] <NotiCon> agreed VoxelHead
#2527 [16:31] <g> lol
#2528 [16:32] <g> Bot thinking sexually about a 13 year old girl
#2529 [16:32] <g> :P
#2530 [16:32] <sithrebel15> .
#2531 [16:32] <sithrebel15> too young
#2532 [16:32] <NotiCon> the bot is now a pedobear
#2533 [16:32] <sithrebel15> try 15
#2534 [16:32] <Morrolan> mmm can just as well mean "I agree" or something like this. ;)
#2535 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> well, VoxelHead is less than a year old, so I'm not sure who's in the wrong here.
#2536 [16:32] <sithrebel15> .
#2537 [16:33] <g> xD
#2538 [16:33] <Morrolan> Sithrebel: Why exactly are you writing dots in chat?
#2539 [16:33] <g> ^
#2540 [16:33] <NotiCon> Morrolan: dont mind him
#2541 [16:33] <sithrebel15> ............
#2542 [16:33] <NotiCon> it will be easier just to ignore him
#2543 [16:33] <Morrolan> NotiCon: Oh, whom are you talking about? :D
#2544 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> there's a joke here about sithrebel15 wanting people to be on his periods, but I'm not going there.
#2545 [16:33] <sithrebel15> ignore yourself
#2546 [16:34] <NotiCon> already are
#2547 [16:34] <Morrolan> The question is, if you'd ignore yourself, would you actually exist?
#2548 [16:34] <sithrebel15> lol
#2549 [16:34] <NotiCon> depends on how you ignore yourself
#2550 [16:34] <Halgurtarquent> heyheyhey sithrebel15 I unbanned for from #botfight lool
#2551 [16:34] <sithrebel15> lol
#2552 [16:34] <Morrolan> NotiCon: Hmm, yea, I guess so.
#2553 [16:34] <sithrebel15> i have over 3,000 options for my ip at home so...
#2554 [16:35] <NotiCon> you do? awesome
#2555 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> your grade school has 3,000 IPs, wh?
#2556 [16:35] <NotiCon> to bad the internet is running low on ips then maybe you could share some of yours for the internet?
#2557 [16:35] <sithrebel15> lolo nick kick message
#2558 [16:35] <sithrebel15> get ipv6
#2559 [16:35] <Captain-Lightning> Why exactly is it 'Mojang AB'?
#2560 [16:35] <Captain-Lightning> Does anyone know what the AB stands for?
#2561 [16:35] <Morrolan> Something like, euhm, where are you from?
#2562 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> Captain-Lightning: AB is Sweedish for 'LLC" probably.
#2563 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> or somesuch
#2564 [16:36] <Captain-Lightning> Good call.
#2565 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> compare Germany's GmbH
#2566 [16:36] * ZenMaster [ZenMaster@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2567 [16:36] <ZenMaster> do you know if it is intended that hostile mobs spawn right besides my bed (when I am using it), even though the room is lit up with a ton of torches? or is this a bug?
#2568 [16:37] <sithrebel15> ITS A NEW BUG
#2569 [16:37] <Captain-Lightning> hahahahahaha
#2570 [16:37] <DopeGhoti> ZenMaster: move your bed away from the wall.
#2571 [16:37] <sithrebel15> whoops
#2572 [16:37] <NotiCon> is it sealed off ZenMaster ?
#2573 [16:37] <VoxelHead> The latest plan is about to explode!
#2574 [16:37] <VoxelHead> I and the squirrel are friends
#2575 [16:37] <ZenMaster> it is sealed
#2576 [16:37] <ZenMaster> and 2 squares away from a wall
#2577 [16:37] <NotiCon> is it up to a wall?
#2578 [16:37] <sithrebel15> im waiting for 2.0
#2579 [16:37] <Morrolan> Vox: I ate the squirrel though.
#2580 [16:37] <sithrebel15> then ill buy it
#2581 [16:37] <sithrebel15> yay lvl up
#2582 [16:37] * LemmingsA [LemmingsA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2583 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> ZenMaster: I have not had this problem when ensuring that the bed is not next to a wall; that's the only time I've had boogeymen appear when sleeping.
#2584 [16:38] <sithrebel15> lvl 3 shield
#2585 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> sithrebel15: what are you talking about, and why?
#2586 [16:38] <Morrolan> Dope: Idle rpg
#2587 [16:38] <ZenMaster> ok, thx
#2588 [16:38] <Forvalerqueayn> #idle is the best
#2589 [16:38] <Morrolan> ZenMaster: Could it be that there are unlit caves below your house?
#2590 [16:38] <sithrebel15> im going to run one
#2591 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> why not talk about it in there then.
#2592 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> (yes, I know.)
#2593 [16:38] <Forvalerqueayn> lol
#2594 [16:39] <sithrebel15> anyone who wants op that i dont hate can have it
#2595 [16:39] * exertaei [exertaei@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2596 [16:39] <NotiCon> DopeGhoti: because he got no where else to speak about it
#2597 [16:39] <ZenMaster> the area under my house is explored down to bedrock
#2598 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> NotiCon: how about #idle-chatter?
#2599 [16:39] <ZenMaster> all brightly lit up
#2600 [16:39] <sithrebel15> fill it with lava
#2601 [16:39] <Morrolan> ZenMaster: Ok then.
#2602 [16:39] <NotiCon> DopeGhoti: he most likely doesnt know about that one
#2603 [16:39] <Daniel_qwerty> Hello. I have a question: How to check Username availability (on mc.net) without registering it? I know one way - "forgot password", but people may receive unsolicited emails, it's not good, i think. Sorry for my english.
#2604 [16:39] <ZenMaster> never had this before 1.5, so I assumed it to be a bug
#2605 [16:40] <Morrolan> Daniel: I don't think you can.
#2606 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> well, it is a bug, but the bed placement not being near the wall has been the most successful workaround I have seen
#2607 [16:40] <sithrebel15> try using lava around your home in a mote
#2608 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> I don't know why it is not wokring for you.
#2609 [16:40] <Morrolan> moat*
#2610 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> sithrebel15: "moat".
#2611 [16:40] <sithrebel15> a deep pit full of lava
#2612 [16:40] <Morrolan> yup, that. :D
#2613 [16:40] <linduxed> ok so i just got myself the sun-java6-jre package
#2614 [16:40] <sithrebel15> lol
#2615 [16:41] <linduxed> so now it's the correct java package
#2616 [16:41] <sithrebel15> i just bought 6 ounces
#2617 [16:41] * the_late_man [the_late_man@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2618 [16:41] <Morrolan> Whoa, now where did you had to dig that one up, linduxed?
#2619 [16:41] * gTestBot [gTestBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2620 [16:41] <linduxed> still the exact same issue
#2621 [16:41] <Morrolan> Ouch.
#2622 [16:41] <sithrebel15> nice
#2623 [16:41] <sithrebel15> !time
#2624 [16:41] <GreyBot> GreyBot's time is: Fri Apr 22 16:41:28 2011.
#2625 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> linduxed: did you run sudo update-alternatives --config java ?
#2626 [16:41] <linduxed> DopeGhoti: yes
#2627 [16:41] <Forvalerqueayn> Fri Apr 22 16:41:27 EDT 2011
#2628 [16:41] <Forvalerqueayn> 8D
#2629 [16:41] <sithrebel15> !kick acky
#2630 [16:41] <linduxed> double-checked with java -version
#2631 [16:41] <linduxed> everything is in order there
#2632 [16:41] <sithrebel15> !quit
#2633 [16:41] <linduxed> still exactly the same image
#2634 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> linduxed: interesting.
#2635 [16:42] <linduxed> everything is blue
#2636 [16:42] <VoxelHead> watch out for the moose
#2637 [16:42] <linduxed> or well
#2638 [16:42] <sithrebel15> abysed
#2639 [16:42] <linduxed> until i type /kill
#2640 [16:42] <sithrebel15> acky
#2641 [16:42] <sithrebel15> lol
#2642 [16:42] <sithrebel15> ACsiD
#2643 [16:42] <sithrebel15> adamkex
#2644 [16:42] <sithrebel15> aetherian
#2645 [16:42] <sithrebel15> AG_Clinton
#2646 [16:42] <sithrebel15> AG_Elias
#2647 [16:42] <sithrebel15> AG_Scott
#2648 [16:42] <sithrebel15> AkiTensai
#2649 [16:42] <sithrebel15> AllegedlyDead
#2650 [16:42] <sithrebel15> ALT3RNAT1V3
#2651 [16:42] <sithrebel15> ALT3RNAT1V3
#2652 [16:42] <aetherian> whew
#2653 [16:42] <NotiCon> awesome
#2654 [16:42] <linduxed> wow, someone wanted a mute badly
#2655 [16:43] <AG_Scott> ...
#2656 [16:43] * gTestBot [gTestBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2657 [16:43] <Daniel_qwerty> So, no way? Ok... thank you
#2658 [16:43] <Morrolan> Daniel: Not that I know of, sorry.
#2659 [16:43] <g> hmm
#2660 [16:43] <g> a, b, c
#2661 [16:43] <g> I seeee...
#2662 [16:43] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Ban his nickname asap I'd say.
#2663 [16:43] * Daniel_qwerty [Daniel_qwerty@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2664 [16:44] <xolotl> Is anyone else having this graphical glitch with stairs, on vanilla 1.5_01? http://imgur.com/IUptM
#2665 [16:44] <xolotl> Only with Smooth Lighting set to OFF; if I turn smooth lighting on then it goes away
#2666 [16:45] <xolotl> (but then comes back again when I turn it back off)
#2667 [16:45] <xolotl> Other video settings appear to have no effect
#2668 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: yes, stair lighting is strange now.
#2669 [16:45] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: Ah, k, thanks
#2670 [16:45] <xolotl> Yet for some reason the stairs in my SMP world look fine.
#2671 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> Also, we won't have to worry about sparky mcspammer anymore, at least from his school.
#2672 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: they'll look fine until the light is recalculated (:
#2673 [16:46] <xolotl> Ah, yeah, was just reading that at the wiki
#2674 [16:47] <xolotl> Had just been searching for "smooth" before, not "stair"
#2675 [16:47] <xolotl> Somewhat foolishly
#2676 [16:47] <Morrolan> Same as if you were searching for toaster when wanting to make a sandwich, eh? :D
#2677 [16:47] <xolotl> Still, I don't see that bug mentioned specifically.
#2678 [16:47] * xolotl adds it
#2678 [16:48] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Updates
#2679 [16:48] <Morrolan> Light does not go through stair blocks anymore, however if you did this in a previous update, unless the stairs are destroyed or a block adjacent is built or destroyed it will still work.
#2680 [16:48] <xolotl> Morrolan: Yeah, that's not the same thing
#2681 [16:48] <Morrolan> But it can't hurt to list it on the stairs page as well i guess.
#2682 [16:48] <xolotl> Morrolan: Check my screenshot
#2683 [16:48] <Morrolan> Oh, ok.
#2684 [16:49] <Morrolan> Ah, sorry for that.
#2685 [16:50] * Hakuoro [Hakuoro@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2686 [16:51] * gTestBot [gTestBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2687 [16:51] <g> Test
#2688 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> C+
#2689 [16:51] <g> Hmm.
#2690 [16:51] <g> It doesn't show the channel
#2691 [16:51] <g> http://i.imgur.com/MgwWY.png
#2692 [16:51] <NotiCon> its being silly you say?
#2693 [16:52] <g> Tehnically that's not how I should be doing it though
#2694 [16:52] <g> I'll try something else..
#2695 [16:56] <rumpler> minecraft doesn't work on intel integrated laptops?
#2696 [16:57] <rumpler> i thought it was a weak little game...?
#2697 [16:57] <Morrolan> Now why did you think that?
#2698 [16:57] <rumpler> because of the blocky graphics n texture? lol
#2699 [16:57] <Forvalerqueayn> it's java
#2700 [16:57] <Morrolan> Hasn't to do anything with CPU ;)
#2701 [16:57] <Forvalerqueayn> java sucks ass
#2702 [16:57] <Forvalerqueayn> for games
#2703 [16:57] <Morrolan> And it's java, yes. :D
#2704 [16:57] <Forvalerqueayn> and is slow as hell
#2705 [16:58] <rumpler> r u sure its java? should i update it?
#2706 [16:58] <Forvalerqueayn> so pretend it looks better than, like Half Life 2
#2707 [16:58] <xolotl> Java isn't why it's slow. Minecraft's near-total lack of optimization is why it's slow. :)
#2708 [16:58] <xolotl> Anyway
#2709 [16:58] <Forvalerqueayn> well
#2710 [16:58] <Forvalerqueayn> both java, and lack of optimization
#2711 [16:58] <g> Let's try this..
#2712 [16:58] <xolotl> rumpler: My old laptop with integrated intel graphics could run Minecraft without problems
#2713 [16:58] * gTestBot [gTestBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2714 [16:58] <g> test
#2715 [16:58] <rumpler> i dont care about the actual graphics
#2716 [16:58] <g> blargh
#2717 [16:58] <g> no message now
#2718 [16:58] <xolotl> rumpler: So it's not *all* Intel stuff causing the problem, though certainly some chipsets might not be able to cope
#2719 [16:58] <g> or channel
#2720 [16:58] <rumpler> i bought it cuz i wanted to play a game on my old ass laptop lol
#2721 [16:58] <VoxelHead> Old ass-laptop.
#2722 [16:58] <Forvalerqueayn> lol
#2723 [16:58] <rumpler> yup
#2724 [16:59] <Forvalerqueayn> play some DOS games on your old ass laptop
#2725 [16:59] <VoxelHead> old ass-laptop
#2726 [16:59] <Morrolan> Oh, before any missunderstandings happen: VoxelHead is a bot. :D
#2727 [16:59] <Forvalerqueayn> lies
#2728 [16:59] <Forvalerqueayn> vox, are you a bot?
#2729 [16:59] <rumpler> seriously?
#2730 [16:59] <VoxelHead> yes and i wont stop till my ankle bounces off!
#2731 [16:59] <Forvalerqueayn> I lol'd
#2732 [16:59] <rumpler> no but for real guys, whats the min specs?
#2733 [16:59] * gTestBot [gTestBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2734 [16:59] <gTestBot> Lol, test.
#2735 [16:59] <g> Hmm..
#2736 [17:00] <rumpler> intel 915g chipest
#2737 [17:00] <rumpler> chipset*
#2738 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> ?? requirements/lessrude
#2739 [17:00] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#2740 [17:00] <Morrolan> Rumpler: It's really hard to tell, since, as you see, it does work for some people with integrated CPU's, whereas it doesn't for others.
#2741 [17:00] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#2742 [17:01] <rumpler> hmmmmmmm
#2743 [17:01] <Morrolan> ?? requirements
#2744 [17:01] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#2745 [17:01] <Morrolan> Haha, so that's why the other is called "lessrude". :D
#2746 [17:01] <VoxelHead> stop snivelling little worm monkey
#2747 [17:01] <rumpler> whoah, you need a modern video card?
#2748 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead: whom are you addressing?
#2749 [17:01] <rumpler> :\
#2750 [17:02] <VoxelHead> No.
#2751 [17:02] <rumpler> integrated probably won't work at all.,
#2752 [17:02] <xolotl> Well, again, the fact that it's integrated doesn't really mean anything
#2753 [17:03] <xolotl> You certainly might be SOL with *your* integrated graphics, but it's not *because* they're integrated.
#2754 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> well.. by and large,integrated chipsets are pretty.. ick.
#2755 [17:05] <Morrolan> "By and large"? Again I've learned a new expression. :D
#2756 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> "The more you know.." (:
#2757 [17:09] <g> So
#2758 [17:09] <g> We have the messages (properly)
#2759 [17:09] <g> but I have no idea where they're coming from
#2760 [17:09] <g> http://i.imgur.com/YBKrN.png
#2761 [17:10] <g> I need to make a damn wrapper class
#2762 [17:10] <g> god, that sucks
#2763 [17:10] * Rehevkor [Rehevkor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2764 [17:10] <g> Why can't they just parse the channel? lol
#2765 [17:11] <g> pass, even
#2766 [17:11] <g> s/parse/pass/
#2767 [17:11] <g> like that? :P
#2768 [17:11] * SSRyan88 [SSRyan88@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2769 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> g: yes (:
#2770 [17:12] <g> :P
#2771 [17:12] <g> test
#2772 [17:12] <g> seems to have worked..
#2773 [17:12] <AkiTensai> The pro's and con's of being alphabetically early.
#2774 [17:12] <g> oO
#2775 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> AkiTensai: in the quiet words of the alleged virgin Mary: "come again?"
#2776 [17:13] <AkiTensai> The guy above that was looking for a mute by saying everyone's name in alphabetical order. He didn't get to the b's.
#2777 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> oh, that
#2778 [17:13] <ryang> how do i find out how to craft windows please?
#2779 [17:14] <xolotl> ryang: smelt sand
#2780 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> ryang: smelt sand into glass.
#2781 [17:14] <xolotl> ryang: http://lmmcwtfy.com/?n=1&q=glass
#2782 [17:14] <ryang> thank you
#2783 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8.
#2784 [17:14] <AkiTensai> ryang: Also for the rest of the reciepes http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#2785 [17:31] * Blackthorne [Blackthorne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2786 [17:38] * Cial [Cial@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2787 [17:46] * treph [treph@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2788 [17:54] <Morrolan> xolotl: That site is EXACTLY what I need, awesome. :)
#2789 [17:57] <Zw> DopeGhoti: Is it posible to restore something i deleted from my dedicated server? :P
#2790 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Zw: depends.
#2791 [17:57] <Zw> Used WinSCP and pressed delete on wrong folder, lol ^^^
#2792 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> ah.. you might be in trouble there :p
#2793 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> if there was a process open that was still accessing the files, youcould have dove into /proc and pulled them out
#2794 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> but undeleting things on ext{2..4}fs is staggeringly difficult at the best of times.
#2795 [17:59] <Zw> ah, /proc
#2796 [17:59] <Zw> where to search under? :P
#2797 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> the PID of the process that is accessing the file
#2798 [18:00] <Zw> gehe :P
#2799 [18:00] <Zw> i deleted my /plugins folder
#2800 [18:01] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2801 [18:01] * LeahR [LeahR@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2802 [18:01] <LeahR> Hey.
#2803 [18:01] <LeahR> I have a question.
#2804 [18:01] <LeahR> I want to find a million diamonds.
#2805 [18:02] <LeahR> What's the best way to do so?
#2806 [18:02] * Swilleso [Swilleso@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2807 [18:02] <Zw> anyway to restore it?
#2808 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> single player or multi
#2809 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> Zw: is the server still running?
#2810 [18:02] <LeahR> I really want a million diamonds.
#2811 [18:02] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2812 [18:02] <LeahR> How do I mine a million diamonds?
#2813 [18:03] * LeahR [LeahR@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2814 [18:03] <Zw> DopeGhoti yes it is running atm
#2815 [18:03] <Zw> but it was the old one
#2816 [18:03] * BossN [BossN@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2817 [18:03] <Swilleso> old what?
#2818 [18:03] <Zw> geh, just deleted a folder inside Plugins to auto create a new one to be specifix without taking backups
#2819 [18:03] <BossN> Hello folks.
#2820 [18:03] <Zw> and i need the files in the orginal foldeR :P
#2821 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> 'lo BossN
#2822 [18:04] <BossN> What are you all talking about?
#2823 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> Zw: search your process list for the minecraft server, look for its PID, and go into /proc/pidnumber/fd
#2824 [18:04] <ALT3RNAT1V3> how epic is this....
#2825 [18:04] <ALT3RNAT1V3> http://i27.servimg.com/u/f27/15/87/22/40/lololo10.png
#2826 [18:04] <DopeGhoti> in there you will see a link to each file that it's using, even if it was 'deleted'
#2827 [18:05] <Swilleso> isnt that a bit offencive alt?
#2828 [18:05] <BossN> Who thinks we need some kind of nuclear weapons in Minecraft?
#2829 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> BossN: griefers
#2830 [18:05] <Swilleso> whats that
#2831 [18:06] <BossN> Well, obviously you would have very precise options on how it's controlled.
#2832 [18:06] <BossN> Such as blast radius, gamma emmisions, Sivlet radiation,
#2833 [18:06] * Shadow386 [Shadow386@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2834 [18:06] <ALT3RNAT1V3> awh
#2835 [18:06] <BossN> But then the more minor things such as radon gas in the area.
#2836 [18:06] <Zw> Dope: I have had restart, the PID changes then i guess?
#2837 [18:06] <ALT3RNAT1V3> i just thought everyone would find that epic
#2838 [18:06] <BossN> And if you're near clay, you would be receiving radiation.
#2839 [18:06] <ALT3RNAT1V3> c'mon
#2840 [18:06] <BossN> Of course, you would have to add cancer to Minecraft.
#2841 [18:07] <ALT3RNAT1V3> its just stalin, hitler, bush and hussien
#2842 [18:07] <Swilleso> my dad died of cancer
#2843 [18:07] <BossN> I feel like a large block growing out of the character would be very fitting.
#2844 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> Zw: if you restarted the server after deleting the files, you're SOL I'm afraid
#2845 [18:07] <BossN> Did he stand too close to clay?
#2846 [18:07] <Swilleso> who, my dad?
#2847 [18:07] <BossN> Yes.
#2848 [18:07] * VoxelHead is away: out
#2848 [18:07] <Swilleso> no
#2849 [18:07] <BossN> Was he Russian?
#2850 [18:08] <Zw> Is there no "Trash" folder like .. eh windowS?
#2851 [18:08] <Swilleso> he worked at a power plant
#2852 [18:08] <ALT3RNAT1V3> >_>
#2853 [18:08] <Swilleso> wat
#2854 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> Zw: no; Linux assumes you know what you're doing, and if you remove a file, it's removed.
#2855 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> none of that mamby-pamby recycle bin nonsense (:
#2856 [18:08] <BossN> Guys, do you know if there is a way to run Minecraft on my iPhone?
#2857 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> BossN: No.
#2858 [18:09] <Zw> :P
#2859 [18:09] <Zw> ok, tnx anyway ^^
#2860 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> Sorry mate ): Hope you had a recent backup
#2861 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> (you do make backups, right?)
#2862 [18:09] <BossN> How do I get it on my iPhone?
#2863 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> BossN: you don't.
#2864 [18:10] <Swilleso> with a cable
#2865 [18:10] <BossN> I really want it.
#2866 [18:10] <BossN> Is anybody here a hacker?
#2867 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> BossN - Mojang hired somebody to make an iphone version, you'll have to wait till later this year
#2868 [18:10] <BossN> What's the release date?
#2869 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> There is no iphone minecraft as of yet.
#2870 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> BossN: the iPhone is nowhere near powerful enough to run Minecraft in its current form.
#2871 [18:10] <bread> DopeGhoti: if you use a mamby-pamby file manager, you have a recycle bin. :P
#2872 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#2873 [18:10] <Swilleso> can I get it on my Windows phone?
#2874 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> I'd rather have Mojang work on the PC version right now
#2875 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> bread: my file managers are cp, mv, rm, ln, and touch.
#2876 [18:11] <Swilleso> guys?
#2877 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Swilleso - Only if that windows phone supports java.
#2878 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> Swilleso: there are no WinCE, iOS, or Android versions of Minecraft.
#2879 [18:11] <Swilleso> why not?
#2880 [18:11] <bread> :D
#2881 [18:11] <bread> yay for CLI
#2882 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> for the same reason that there's no WinCE, iOS, or Android version of Portal 2
#2883 [18:12] <BossN> GreyVulpine, what were you saying about Java?
#2884 [18:12] <Swilleso> but portal 2 only came out recently
#2885 [18:12] <BossN> That's not something you should joke about.
#2886 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> BossN - What about it?
#2887 [18:12] <Swilleso> minecraft is relly old
#2888 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> Swilleso: and Minecreact isn't even out yet,.
#2889 [18:12] <BossN> Don't act dumb. You know exactly what you said,
#2890 [18:12] <bread> lol
#2891 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> No, it really isn't Swilleso
#2892 [18:12] <BossN> Whether you meant it or not, it's offensive.
#2893 [18:12] <bread> Isn't there a planned version of Minecraft, for Android?
#2894 [18:12] <Swilleso> isn't it old?
#2895 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> BossN - I'm about to kick you here, would you explain yourself?
#2896 [18:12] <Swilleso> its been out for ages hasnt it?
#2897 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> bread: just as there's a planned 'adventure mode'.
#2898 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> No it hasn't Swilleso
#2899 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> Swilleso: no, it has been in Beta.
#2900 [18:13] <bread> heh
#2901 [18:13] <Swilleso> oh, ok
#2902 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> that's why, on the site, it says '_pre_-purchase now!'
#2903 [18:13] <BossN> GreyVulpine, if you are so thick that you didn't know, Java is a highly offensive term for us Caribbean people.
#2904 [18:13] <BossN> I get enough flack at school for it, and I don't need it here.
#2905 [18:13] <bread> lolwut?
#2906 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> BossN - I'm sorry to hear that, java is a programming environment.
#2907 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> !wiki java
#2908 [18:14] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_%28programming_language%29
#2909 [18:14] <GreyBot> Java is a programming language originally developed by James Gosling at Sun Microsystems (which is now a subsidiary of Oracle Corporation) and released in 1995 as a core component of Sun Microsystems' Java platform. The language derives much of its syntax from C and C++ but has a simpler object model and fewer low-level facilities. Java applications are typically compiled to bytecode
#2910 [18:14] <GreyBot> (class file)
#2911 [18:14] <bread> Java is a prgr-
#2912 [18:14] <GreyBot> that can run on any Java Virtual Machine (JVM) regardless of computer architecture. Java is a general-purpose, concurrent, class-based, object-oriented language that is specifically designed to have as few implementation dependencies as possible. It is intended to let application developers "write once, run anywhere". Java is currently one of the most popular programming languages in
#2913 [18:14] <GreyBot> use, and is
#2914 [18:14] <GreyBot> widely used from application software to web applications.[10]
#2915 [18:14] <bread> ninja'd
#2916 [18:14] <BossN> Stop saying that!
#2917 [18:14] * fogWraith gets popcorn
#2917 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Read it yourself
#2918 [18:14] <BossN> We aren't programed.
#2919 [18:14] <BossN> WE'RE REAL PEOPLE.
#2920 [18:14] <bread> lol
#2921 [18:14] <bread> trole
#2922 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> "Java is a programming language originally developed by James Gosling at Sun Microsystems"
#2923 [18:14] <BossN> WE ARE REAL PEOPLE.
#2924 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is programmed in java, hence why I mentioned it
#2925 [18:14] <BossN> You are highly rude.
#2926 [18:14] * DopeGhoti gets a nice, piping hot cup of Java.
#2926 [18:14] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :...
#2927 [18:14] <fogWraith> Theres at least one interesting topic here each passing day
#2928 [18:15] <bread> Minecraft is programmed in Carribbean people.
#2929 [18:15] <Swilleso> I thought Mincraft was programmed in C#?
#2930 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> It was not.
#2931 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Nope, java.
#2932 [18:15] <BossN> Dope, I have just ignored you.
#2933 [18:15] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I wish.
#2934 [18:15] <Swilleso> what's wrong with Java?
#2935 [18:15] <fogWraith> So Java is also a racial slur?
#2936 [18:15] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :DopeGhoti: can you channel-ignore BossN. i.e. +q/+b? ;D
#2937 [18:15] * DopeGhoti wonders how many Carribeans per kilobyte of code.
#2937 [18:15] <BossN> Yes.
#2938 [18:15] <BossN> Yes it is.
#2939 [18:15] <bread> hahahah
#2940 [18:15] <fogWraith> Where did it originate from?
#2941 [18:15] <BossN> Now can we please change the subject?
#2942 [18:15] <bread> This is making me giggle.
#2943 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Why should we?
#2944 [18:15] * [E]MARANTz [[E]MARANTz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2945 [18:15] <BossN> It's mocking the way we speak.
#2946 [18:16] <BossN> This is no laughing matter.
#2947 [18:16] <bread> Carribbean speak in Java code?
#2948 [18:16] <bread> +s
#2949 [18:16] <BossN> Our people have been repressed for centuries.
#2950 [18:16] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :No, they speak Javanese.
#2951 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> I have never in my life heard 'java' used as a slur of any sort.
#2952 [18:16] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Which sounds like Japanese, it's hilarious.
#2953 [18:16] <BossN> We had to pick your coffee,
#2954 [18:16] <BossN> And you still make fun of us.
#2955 [18:16] <fogWraith> Oooh
#2956 [18:16] <fogWraith> The beans
#2957 [18:16] <fogWraith> Haha
#2958 [18:16] <fogWraith> Sorry
#2959 [18:16] <bread> while mouth == open { talk = 1; }
#2960 [18:16] <BossN> No.
#2961 [18:16] <BossN> We picked your coffee.
#2962 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> BossN: send a letter to Oracle asking them to rename their programming language, then
#2963 [18:17] <bread> ^ lol
#2964 [18:17] <BossN> Who is Oracle?
#2965 [18:17] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :What's interesting is that it's the name of an Indonesian island. So saying "Java" isn't really offensive.
#2966 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> I can't wait for the new version of Minecraft written in Rasta.
#2967 [18:17] <fogWraith> The oracle makes delicious cookies
#2968 [18:17] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Java the Hutt!
#2969 [18:17] <bread> I am offended by C++
#2970 [18:17] <bread> C++ is a racial slur for us Californians.
#2971 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> bread: that's because C++ is offensive, but no where near as much so as PHP
#2972 [18:17] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :bread: ooh, those +s
#2973 [18:17] <Swilleso> guys you need to stop making fun of people because of how they are
#2974 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Swilleso - We weren't.
#2975 [18:17] <BossN> You are all being very insensitive.
#2976 [18:18] <fogWraith> Its the internet
#2977 [18:18] <bread> You're being very trole, BossN
#2978 [18:18] <Swilleso> its like making fun out of homosesuals or people with sistik fibroses
#2979 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Swilleso - If you take a look, we were talking about java, in the context of a programming environment.
#2980 [18:18] <BossN> Maybe you wouldn't be so insensitive if your mother had been killed in a racial murder.
#2981 [18:18] <BossN> STOP SAYING IT.
#2982 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Uh, no.
#2983 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> BossN: For what it is worth, if you are not trolling, I'm sorry that the name of a programming language, and of an island, is perceived as a slur.
#2984 [18:18] <bildramer> BossN, in the incredibly slim chance you're not a troll, welcome to the 20th and 21st century
#2985 [18:18] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2986 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> BossN: [citation needed]
#2987 [18:18] * fogWraith takes his monocle off
#2987 [18:18] <BossN> You are all being very unfair to my people.
#2988 [18:18] <fogWraith> The WHAT? bildramer?
#2989 [18:19] <fogWraith> When did THIS happen?
#2990 [18:19] <bildramer> last saturday
#2991 [18:19] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs <-- note how Java is not on that list.
#2992 [18:19] <BossN> How would you like it if I started saying nigger, chink and kike?
#2993 [18:19] * fogWraith gasps
#2993 [18:19] <fogWraith> kike?
#2994 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> BossN: none of those are programming languages.
#2995 [18:19] <bread> how rude.
#2996 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> None of those are names of programming languages
#2997 [18:19] <bread> LOL
#2998 [18:19] * Khalifa [Khalifa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2999 [18:19] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kike or kyke - (U.S.) Derogatory term for Ashkenazi Jews. From kikel, Yiddish for "circle". Immigrant Jews signed legal documents with an "O" (similar to an "X").
#3000 [18:19] <Swilleso> I program in nigger actually
#3001 [18:19] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :wow, I did not know that.
#3002 [18:19] <BossN> I'm pretty sure Nigger is a programming language.
#3003 [18:19] <Swilleso> well, it's what my friend calls C++
#3004 [18:19] <BossN> I mean, why the fuck not?
#3005 [18:20] <Miclee> BossN, get the fuck out.
#3006 [18:20] * Miclee slaps.
#3006 [18:20] <bread> I am lol'ing so hard right now.
#3007 [18:20] <fogWraith> Aah, I see, thank you for enlightening me, lukegb... I'm Swedish and we only have the coloured people here :P
#3008 [18:20] <fogWraith> As in white, black and other colours
#3009 [18:20] <BossN> If you're all going to say Java is a programming language, so is Nigger, gook, and cotton picker.
#3010 [18:20] * qable [qable@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3011 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> fogWraith: you have green and blue people? Awesome!
#3012 [18:20] * Arakiel [Arakiel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3013 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> I wish we had some of them in Arizona!
#3014 [18:20] <fogWraith> Sometimes blue and colours of the rainbow, depending on how drunk and passed out they are
#3015 [18:21] <Miclee> DopeGhoti, pssssst, kick BossN now.
#3016 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> neh, the troll can sit quietly and listen. No need to kick.
#3017 [18:21] <fogWraith> Still, Java is very offensive :P
#3018 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#3019 [18:21] * fogWraith snickers
#3019 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> fogWraith: yes, I much prefer tea. And Python.
#3020 [18:22] * fogWraith approves
#3020 [18:23] <bread> +is ?
#3021 [18:23] <bread> lol why?
#3022 [18:23] <fogWraith> Well, this has been very entertaining... now what?
#3023 [18:23] * BossN [BossN@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3024 [18:24] * GreyVulpine goes to grab dinner.
#3024 [18:24] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :BossN: [citation needed] - as in, an established wikipedia article for each of those, as well as approximately 12 million Google search results for <x> programming language
#3025 [18:24] * DopeGhoti looks askance at irssi
#3025 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> "qbis"?
#3026 [18:25] <bread> I was wondering why +is
#3027 [18:25] <bread> lol
#3028 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Have no idea.. quiet ban remove invite..
#3029 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> -s?
#3030 [18:25] <fogWraith> secret
#3031 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> oh right
#3032 [18:25] <fogWraith> doesnt show on the chan list ;P
#3033 [18:25] * CaribbeanAndPored [CaribbeanAndPored@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3034 [18:26] <fogWraith> Lol
#3035 [18:26] <CaribbeanAndPored> Hey.
#3036 [18:26] <fogWraith> Evening to you
#3037 [18:26] <CaribbeanAndPored> I'm back.
#3038 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> We can see that.
#3039 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> vox, give CaribbeanAndPored a nice cup of java
#3040 [18:26] <CaribbeanAndPored> You make fun of my people, and then ban me.
#3041 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> you were never banned.
#3042 [18:26] <CaribbeanAndPored> I couldn't talk.
#3043 [18:26] <CaribbeanAndPored> Was that meant to make fun of my accent too?
#3044 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Are you typing with an accent? We couldn't tell.
#3045 [18:27] <CaribbeanAndPored> You know, with us, you wouldn't have any tech support. You wouldn't even be online without us.
#3046 [18:27] <fogWraith> I thought that were the people from india
#3047 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> Yes, your accent comes through so clearly in its ASCII form that it's hard not to lauch so hard that my morning java comes out of my nose.
#3048 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy, no tech support job, that would be wonderful!
#3049 [18:27] <CaribbeanAndPored> NO!
#3050 [18:27] <CaribbeanAndPored> Stop calling us Indians.
#3051 [18:27] * DopeGhoti goes back to writing java code for the web sites he's supposed to be working on
#3051 [18:28] <CaribbeanAndPored> How do I report on here?
#3052 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> alt+f4
#3053 [18:28] <CaribbeanAndPored> I want Mojang to know about this offensive behaviour.
#3054 [18:28] <fogWraith> Well, mollstam is there
#3055 [18:28] <fogWraith> Tell him
#3056 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Be sure to include your logs
#3057 [18:28] <CaribbeanAndPored> How do I send him logs?
#3058 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> We most certainly will.
#3059 [18:28] <CaribbeanAndPored> I'm not even on Minecraft at the moment.
#3060 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> By the way, I hear it's rainy in the UK right now, how's the java there?
#3061 [18:29] <CaribbeanAndPored> How's the NIGGER there?
#3062 [18:29] <bildramer> fail
#3063 [18:29] <CaribbeanAndPored> Go and have some tea and bisquits while you fuck the queen.
#3064 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Nah, that's your job. We don't have tea and crumpets here
#3065 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Also, no queen.
#3066 [18:30] <Miclee> VoxelHead, l2ban.
#3067 [18:30] <fogWraith> We have a king and queen though
#3068 [18:30] <Swilleso> guys, can we stop this please
#3069 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> that was.. interesting.
#3070 [18:30] <Swilleso> arguments are bad for my autism
#3071 [18:30] <CaribbeanAndPored> I'm so sorry, Swillieso.
#3072 [18:30] <AG_Scott> Someone freaking ban him or just give me op for a few minutes
#3073 [18:30] <CaribbeanAndPored> It's all these other people.
#3074 [18:31] <fogWraith> Racist
#3075 [18:31] <Swilleso> guys please stop
#3076 [18:31] <CaribbeanAndPored> Yes.
#3077 [18:31] * VoxelHead kicked CaribbeanAndPored from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: obvious troll)
#3078 [18:31] <rumpler> anyone has a multiplayer real game going on?
#3079 [18:31] <AG_Scott> I wonder if I can get VoxelHead to ban via global ban in M
#3080 [18:31] <rumpler> i would like to play with some people and use vent
#3081 [18:31] <AG_Scott> lol
#3082 [18:31] <fogWraith> Way to admit to it
#3083 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#3084 [18:31] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3085 [18:31] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3086 [18:32] <rumpler> what is smp servers?
#3087 [18:32] <Swilleso> oh good, you stopped arguing
#3088 [18:32] * DontFearTheCreeper [DontFearTheCreeper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3089 [18:32] <rumpler> ?? smp
#3090 [18:32] <fogWraith> Tobacco, so far away
#3091 [18:32] <rumpler> ?? smp damn it
#3092 [18:32] <rumpler> ?? index
#3093 [18:32] <Swilleso> I get bad headaches if people argue
#3094 [18:32] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#3095 [18:32] <fogWraith> SMP, survival multiplayer
#3096 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> What are you trying to do rumpler?
#3097 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> ??+ smp|Survival Multi-Player
#3098 [18:33] <rumpler> play with some ppl on survival multi player
#3099 [18:33] <rumpler> who are new like me
#3100 [18:33] <Swilleso> im new
#3101 [18:33] <fogWraith> Swilleso, I get bad headaches if I don't get coffee or tobacco at regular intervals :|
#3102 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> Welcome, Swilleso; sorry about the mess.
#3103 [18:33] <Swilleso> thats ok
#3104 [18:33] <rumpler> let us play
#3105 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> fogWraith: that's called caffiene withdrawl
#3106 [18:33] <Swilleso> yeah, im not addicted to caffine
#3107 [18:33] <Swilleso> i just have autism
#3108 [18:34] <fogWraith> DopeGhoti, nasty stuff, been trying to lay off the tobacco... the coffee can stay though
#3109 [18:34] <fogWraith> Keep some sanity in my life
#3110 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> fogWraith: I'm not saying that you should stop using caffiene, just telling you what's going on (:
#3111 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> I too enjoy my caffiene addiction.
#3112 [18:35] <fogWraith> Oh I'm well aware of my addictions ;)
#3113 [18:35] <Swilleso> isnt cafine bad for you?
#3114 [18:35] <fogWraith> Depends on the dosage
#3115 [18:35] <Swilleso> dosage
#3116 [18:35] <Swilleso> ?
#3117 [18:35] <rumpler> anyone wants to play with me ? swil
#3118 [18:35] <fogWraith> I'm at 10+ large cups of coffee per day to keep the shakes away
#3119 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> How much you ingest at any one time Swilleso
#3120 [18:35] <Swilleso> k
#3121 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> see also: LD50
#3122 [18:36] <Swilleso> wats dat
#3123 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> !wiki LD50
#3124 [18:36] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose
#3125 [18:36] <GreyBot> In toxicology, the median lethal dose, LD50 (abbreviation for “Lethal Dose, 50%”), LC50 (Lethal Concentration, 50%) or LCt50 (Lethal Concentration & Time) of a toxin, radiation, or pathogen is the dose required to kill half the members of a tested population after a specified test duration. LD50 figures are frequently used as a general indicator of a substance's acute toxicity. The
#3126 [18:36] <GreyBot> test
#3127 [18:36] <GreyBot> was created by J.W. Trevan in 1927. It is being phased out in some jurisdictions in favor of tests such as the Fixed Dose Procedure; however the concept, and calculation of the median lethal dose for comparison purposes, is still widely used. The term semilethal dose is occasionally used with the same meaning, particularly in translations from non-English-language texts, but can also
#3128 [18:36] <GreyBot> refer
#3129 [18:36] <GreyBot> to a sublethal dose; because of this ambiguity, it is usually avoided.
#3130 [18:36] <Swilleso> too much text
#3131 [18:36] <Swilleso> headache
#3132 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> God, what's with these huge wiki entries
#3133 [18:36] <fogWraith> Informational
#3134 [18:36] <fogWraith> Gotta do something about the parsing there :P
#3135 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the buffer limit needs to get changed
#3136 [18:37] * GreyVulpine peeks at code
#3136 [18:37] <rumpler> !wiki thc
#3137 [18:38] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol
#3138 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: you might find this of interest, for the purposes of not posting textwalls:
#3139 [18:38] <GreyBot> Tetrahydrocannabinol ( /ˌtɛtrəˌhaɪdrɵkəˈnæbɪnɒl/ tet-rə-HY-drə-kə-NAB-i-nol; THC), also known as delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC), Δ1-THC (using an older chemical nomenclature), or dronabinol, is the main psychoactive substance found in the cannabis plant.
#3140 [18:38] <rumpler> hmm
#3141 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: dig +short txt $NEEEDLS.wp.dg.cx
#3142 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea what that does, seeing as GreyBot isn't on a nix box
#3143 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> nor is it an eggdrop bot of any kind.
#3144 [18:41] <fogWraith> DAMNIT!
#3145 [18:41] * fogWraith curses ghosts 'n goblins
#3145 [18:41] * lilomar [lilomar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3146 [18:41] <rumpler> !wiki cervical mucas
#3147 [18:41] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervix
#3148 [18:41] <GreyBot> The cervix (or neck of the uterus) is the lower, narrow portion of the uterus where it joins with the top end of the vagina. It is cylindrical or conical in shape and protrudes through the upper anterior vaginal wall. Approximately half its length is visible with appropriate medical equipment; the remainder lies above the vagina beyond view. It is occasionally called "cervix uteri".
#3149 [18:41] <GreyBot> Cervix means neck in Latin.
#3150 [18:41] * LordTrevor [LordTrevor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3151 [18:42] * lapppy [lapppy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3152 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/vS0g45A7 <-- command-line short-form wiki abstracts via DNS
#3153 [18:43] <fogWraith> Ghosts n goblins isn't that easy on the a1200 with a joystick :|
#3154 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#3155 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> I see the problem, esper uses a different line limit than what greybot's used to
#3156 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> 385 characters per line, rather than 400 of GreyBot's
#3157 [18:48] <fogWraith> Time to kick ass and drink coffee
#3158 [18:48] * fogWraith switches to Spy vs Spy
#3158 [18:50] <Swilleso> y do you all drink coffee?
#3159 [18:50] <Swilleso> mountain dew is better
#3160 [18:50] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3161 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> Tea FTW
#3162 [18:52] <fogWraith> Soft drinks are also fattening ;P
#3163 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Lies!
#3164 [18:52] <fogWraith> Unless you're GreyVulpine that is
#3165 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> I wish it was fattening, I'm thin as a stick.
#3166 [18:53] <fogWraith> You should of have spent the easter here then
#3167 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Where's "here"?
#3168 [18:54] <fogWraith> Out back here in Sweden ;)
#3169 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Heh.
#3170 [18:54] <fogWraith> We celebrated the death of jesus and our sins with BBQ, from thursday to monday
#3171 [18:54] <fogWraith> Meat, meat, meat
#3172 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Ooooo....
#3173 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> should _have_, fogWraith; should _have_.
#3174 [18:55] <fogWraith> English isn't my native language, DopeGhoti :P
#3175 [18:55] <fogWraith> I'm excused from horrid grammar
#3176 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> fogWraith: well, now you are able to be even better at it (:
#3177 [18:55] <fogWraith> I refuse to improve D:
#3178 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> "/mode fogWraith -v" (:
#3179 [18:56] * fogWraith kries ters of sadnes
#3179 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> 'cries'; unless you're playing Mortal Kombat.
#3180 [18:57] <bread> Well, fogWraith, you speak better English than half the US.
#3181 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> (more than half, probably)
#3182 [18:57] <fogWraith> Speaking of mortal kombat, I have that movie lined up for the evening
#3183 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> which one?
#3184 [18:57] <fogWraith> First one
#3185 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> good answer
#3186 [18:57] <fogWraith> Its less of a joke than the second one
#3187 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> it was actually passable; the second was just wall-to-wall awful, without even the awesome soundtrack to help
#3188 [18:58] <Swilleso> they should make a minecraf tmovie
#3189 [18:58] <Swilleso> id see that
#3190 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> Swilleso: they are.
#3191 [18:58] <fogWraith> I so wanted Jax's arms when I was young
#3192 [18:58] <bread> lol
#3193 [18:58] <fogWraith> ARMS OF STEEL, POWER AND AWESOME
#3194 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> Swilleso: www.kickstarter.com/projects/2pp/minecraft-the-story-of-mojang
#3195 [18:58] <fogWraith> Barraka? Barakka?... awesome character too
#3196 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> the new game is actually really good. It plays a _LOT_ like the original arcade games
#3197 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> That green orc dude?
#3198 [18:59] <fogWraith> Wrong game, grey :P
#3199 [18:59] <fogWraith> SF != MK
#3200 [18:59] * GreyVulpine hasn't played any of that since he was a wee lad.
#3200 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> Baraka is the one with the skull made mostly of teeth, and retractible bades in his arms
#3201 [18:59] * fogWraith nods
#3201 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> you're thinking Blanka
#3202 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> (blades, not bades)
#3203 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> I'll take your word for it.
#3204 [19:00] <fogWraith> Speaking of, the new MK game looks pretty good DopeGhoti
#3205 [19:00] <fogWraith> I love the trailer which has effects to when you break the bones :P
#3206 [19:00] * VoxelHead is back
#3206 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> fogWraith: honestly, I could do without that bit (it breaks the flow of the game IMO)
#3207 [19:01] * buddyochoa [buddyochoa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3208 [19:01] <fogWraith> True, just a fancy addition... I had MK3 on that Sega 16-bit thingamajig
#3209 [19:02] <fogWraith> Best one I think
#3210 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> For me, 2 was the pinnacle
#3211 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> the Run button ruined everything.
#3212 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> Missing (so far) from the new MK: "Toasty!"
#3213 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> though I ahve a hozillion things yet to unlick
#3214 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> er, unlock
#3215 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> I don't think unlicking something is possible.
#3216 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#3217 [19:03] <VoxelHead> =]
#3218 [19:03] <fogWraith> ;)
#3219 [19:03] <fogWraith> Never liked that bastard Johnny though
#3220 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> I was always a fan of Kung Lao, Raiden, and Scorpion
#3221 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> (the latter of whom has one of the very few 'C's in the game)
#3222 [19:04] <fogWraith> Scorpion is a personal favourite, next to Baraka
#3223 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> I do greatly enjoy how ridiculous Lui Kang's sounds still are
#3224 [19:05] <fogWraith> *STILL*? :|
#3225 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> it still sounds like you threw a pillowcase full of chickens down a flight of stairs.
#3226 [19:05] <fogWraith> Haha, lovely
#3227 [19:06] * Count [Count@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3228 [19:06] <fogWraith> I think I still have the Mortal Kombat floppies for the Amiga here somewhere
#3229 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> I have the MAME ROMs (:
#3230 [19:07] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3231 [19:07] * fogWraith points to the retrocorner
#3231 [19:07] <fogWraith> Any girl in my life despise that corner, hate it with burning furious hate from the deepest levels of hell
#3232 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> My GF wants me to build a MAME cabinet.
#3233 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> (step one: Learn to carpent.)
#3234 [19:08] <aetherian> that's the ticket
#3235 [19:08] <gPad2002> I'm pretty envious of this guy
#3236 [19:08] <gPad2002> He spends leisure time playing pokemon stadium with his gf
#3237 [19:08] <gPad2002> Lol
#3238 [19:08] <fogWraith> A cabinet would be optimal, I can agree to that :P
#3239 [19:14] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3240 [19:17] <bokaholic> mmmpokemon
#3241 [19:18] <bokaholic> Oh building.
#3242 [19:18] <gPad2002> Ohi bokaholic
#3243 [19:18] <bokaholic> I'll be building one of these soon: http://www.arbreptiles.com/cages/3x2.shtml
#3244 [19:18] <bokaholic> Ohai there!
#3245 [19:18] <fogWraith> Dem pocket monsters should never of have been made into moving imagery on this televisionary box
#3246 [19:18] <bokaholic> My critter needs a home and I need a craft.
#3247 [19:19] <VoxelHead> we have no time for these games*�#^@@%percent#
#3248 [19:19] <gPad2002> :P
#3249 [19:19] <fogWraith> Really VoxelHead? percent?
#3250 [19:19] <bokaholic> lol
#3251 [19:20] <gPad2002> Vox, be quiet
#3252 [19:20] <gPad2002> :P
#3253 [19:20] <VoxelHead> nnk
#3254 [19:20] <gPad2002> On that note
#3255 [19:20] <fogWraith> VoxelHead, pooperstains, let us internet together!
#3256 [19:20] <gPad2002> SPAAAAAAAAAAACCEE!
#3257 [19:21] * GreyVulpine snickers
#3257 [19:21] <gPad2002> Gonna go to space, gonna go there. Better buy a telescope.
#3258 [19:21] <gPad2002> Wanna see me?
#3259 [19:21] <gPad2002> Buy a telescope.
#3260 [19:21] <gPad2002> Gonna be in space!
#3261 [19:21] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :SPAAAAAACEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
#3262 [19:21] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::D
#3263 [19:21] <gPad2002> xD
#3264 [19:22] <gPad2002> So much space gotta see it all
#3265 [19:22] <fogWraith> Thats what she said?
#3266 [19:27] * Azu [Azu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3267 [19:27] <Azu> hey so, is there a known bug regarding stats/achievements resetting?
#3268 [19:27] <Azu> because mine totally just did
#3269 [19:27] <Azu> and I'd like to know how to avoid it in the future
#3270 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Azu: acheivements and stats are per-computer; they do not follow your account around.
#3271 [19:30] * ShaRose [ShaRose@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3272 [19:30] <Azu> right, I haven't changed computers
#3273 [19:30] <Azu> mine unexpectedly shut off for power-related reason
#3274 [19:31] <Azu> (flipping breakers to fix a garbage disposal, long and stupid story)
#3275 [19:31] <Azu> turned it back on to find my 10000 stone reset to zero
#3276 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> hm
#3277 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> sounds like a similar problem that happens with worlds sometimes
#3278 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> I don't know how or where the stats and cheevoes are stores, so I don't know where to point you other toan to somewhere in .minecraft
#3279 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> and also to Staples, to get a UPS
#3280 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> It's in .minecraft/stats
#3281 [19:37] * VoxelHead is away: sekrit
#3281 [19:39] <Azu> huh.
#3282 [19:39] * MertenNor [MertenNor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3283 [19:39] <Azu> I've got two files called "stats_Azumarill_unsent"
#3284 [19:39] <Azu> one's a .DAT, one's a .OLD
#3285 [19:40] <Azu> minecraft's open at the moment
#3286 [19:40] <MertenNor> is there any alternatives to bukkit ? that work with 1.5.01 ?
#3287 [19:42] <AG_Scott> MertenNor, this isn't a channel for mods.
#3288 [19:43] <MertenNor> oh sorry can you point me to one ?
#3289 [19:43] <MertenNor> nm found the bukkit IRC :)
#3290 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit's probably the most popular, but hmod's corpse is still twitching.
#3291 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> As well as canary
#3292 [19:43] <AG_Scott> Canary is hMod.
#3293 [19:43] <AG_Scott> ._.
#3294 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#3295 [19:44] * GreyVulpine doesn't keep up to date on that crap
#3295 [19:44] <AG_Scott> It's a fork of it
#3296 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't there a kmod fork of hmod at some point?
#3297 [19:46] * hideharu [hideharu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3298 [19:48] <fogWraith> Its like a hydra!
#3299 [19:54] * Cial [Cial@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3300 [19:57] * Wahrheit [Wahrheit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3301 [19:58] * mudpit [mudpit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3302 [19:58] * VoxelHead kicked mudpit from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: requested)
#3303 [19:59] * neviklink [neviklink@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3304 [20:01] * hideharu [hideharu@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3305 [20:03] * B-Fir3 [B-Fir3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3306 [20:03] * progme [progme@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3307 [20:03] <neviklink> anyone want to join a lets play
#3308 [20:03] * MuumiJumala [MuumiJumala@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3309 [20:09] * Sonicx00888 [Sonicx00888@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3310 [20:09] <Sonicx00888> How do I registeR
#3311 [20:09] <neviklink> anyone want to join a ltes play
#3312 [20:09] <Sonicx00888> How do I register?
#3313 [20:09] <Sonicx00888> Yeah me
#3314 [20:10] <Sonicx00888> You were on regular Minecraft chat, no?
#3315 [20:10] * mib_zo2r2u [mib_zo2r2u@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3316 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#3317 [20:10] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#3318 [20:10] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#3319 [20:10] <neviklink> yes i was
#3320 [20:10] * neviklink noms vox
#3320 [20:10] <Sonicx00888> I'll join
#3321 [20:11] <Sonicx00888> I was trying to say yes on regular chat, but i'm not registered
#3322 [20:11] <Sonicx00888> brb
#3323 [20:11] <mib_zo2r2u> need heeelp =)
#3324 [20:12] <mib_zo2r2u> patch 1.5 server?
#3325 [20:12] <mib_zo2r2u> how i can find this?
#3326 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Just redownload the server from minecraft.net
#3327 [20:12] <neviklink> oh check the pm
#3328 [20:12] <mib_zo2r2u> i dont know how to download the server from minecraft ^^
#3329 [20:12] * neviklink eats voxelhead
#3329 [20:12] <mib_zo2r2u> i'm sorry
#3330 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3331 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#3332 [20:13] <mib_zo2r2u> thanks =)
#3333 [20:13] <neviklink> sonic
#3334 [20:14] * neviklink punches voxelheaf
#3334 [20:14] <neviklink> sonic?
#3335 [20:14] * neviklink eats grey vulpine
#3335 [20:14] <mib_zo2r2u> grey?
#3336 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3337 [20:14] <mib_zo2r2u> just put the exe. in the old folder?
#3338 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Right
#3339 [20:15] <mib_zo2r2u> won't work =(
#3340 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#3341 [20:15] <neviklink> r u rruning the se3rver?
#3342 [20:15] <mib_zo2r2u> connection timed out: connect
#3343 [20:15] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3344 [20:15] <mib_zo2r2u> cant join
#3345 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> You need to launch the server
#3346 [20:15] <mib_zo2r2u> i did .... -.-
#3347 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> How are you joining the server?
#3348 [20:15] <mib_zo2r2u> ip
#3349 [20:15] <neviklink> was it running when you repalced the exe
#3350 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> What IP?
#3351 [20:16] <mib_zo2r2u> my
#3352 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me the exact ip you're putting in?
#3353 [20:16] <mib_zo2r2u> computer ip
#3354 [20:16] <neviklink> SONIC
#3355 [20:16] <mib_zo2r2u> sure
#3356 [20:16] <mib_zo2r2u> wait.... no ^^
#3357 [20:16] <mib_zo2r2u> can i query?
#3358 [20:16] <fogWraith> 127.0.0.1
#3359 [20:16] <fogWraith> Enter that?
#3360 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> ^
#3361 [20:17] * Sonicx00888 [Sonicx00888@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3362 [20:17] * Telerus [Telerus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3363 [20:17] <Sonicx00888> Hello? Let's play guy?
#3364 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> let's.. what now?
#3365 [20:18] <Telerus> How exactly do I make it so it logs in every time I connect, because I keep coming into an error that doesn't let me log in via commands.
#3366 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Telerus - http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/post/3427294253/welcome-to-the-new-minecraft-launcher
#3367 [20:18] <neviklink> BACK
#3368 [20:18] <Telerus> Thanks
#3369 [20:18] <neviklink> look at pm
#3370 [20:18] <Sonicx00888> Hello?,
#3371 [20:18] <Sonicx00888> Nevik?
#3372 [20:19] <Sonicx00888> Oh there you are
#3373 [20:19] <Telerus> Grey I was taking about IRC :p
#3374 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Oh, could've told us that
#3375 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> What IRC client are you using?
#3376 [20:20] <Telerus> Sorry. :/
#3377 [20:20] <Telerus> mIRC
#3378 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Ah, may I PM you?
#3379 [20:20] <Telerus> Yes please.
#3380 [20:23] * werwew19 [werwew19@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3381 [20:25] * Telerus [Telerus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3382 [20:25] <Telerus> Does anyone know a better IRC client than mIRC?
#3383 [20:25] <Telerus> Seems to have issues...
#3384 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> What issues?
#3385 [20:26] <Telerus> Keeps telling me /msg NickServ Telerus mypassword
#3386 [20:26] <Telerus> is an invalid command
#3387 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> It needs to be /msg nickserv identify yourpassword
#3388 [20:26] <Telerus> Whats different in that tha nmine?
#3389 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> replace telerus with identify
#3390 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> identify is the command, not a substitute for your name
#3391 [20:27] <Telerus> :O
#3392 [20:27] <Telerus> lol
#3393 [20:27] <Telerus> *face palms*
#3394 [20:27] <Telerus> Muchas Gracias
#3395 [20:27] <Telerus> You are amazing.
#3396 [20:27] <Telerus> =)
#3397 [20:28] * Telerus [Telerus@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3398 [20:31] * Mr_okushama [Mr_okushama@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3399 [20:32] * tenclt_JAPAN [tenclt_JAPAN@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3400 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Cial - If you need a redstone primer, just ask.
#3401 [20:33] <Cial> a primer?
#3402 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Intro to redstone 101.
#3403 [20:33] <Cial> ah ok
#3404 [20:34] <Cial> I can do really simple things with it
#3405 [20:34] <Cial> but for the life of me i cant work out many of the more complex things
#3406 [20:34] <Mr_okushama> go to a server and have a practical :D
#3407 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> If you want redstone to constantly flicker on and off, look into clocks
#3408 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> I can show you a few designs, if you want.
#3409 [20:34] <Cial> GreyVulpine, yea but i need a clock and a switch
#3410 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Then a clock, hooked up to an AND gate
#3411 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> with a switch for the other input of the AND gate
#3412 [20:35] <Cial> and gate.. one sec gotta pull up the wiki
#3413 [20:35] * Mr_okushama [Mr_okushama@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3414 [20:36] <Cial> and that will let me block the power from the clock untill i flip the switch correct
#3415 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Basically, an AND gate lets a signal through, if both inputs are 1
#3416 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> So, the lever in the off state, is a 0, while the clock constantly switches between a 1 and 0
#3417 [20:36] <Cial> ok then
#3418 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> If you flip the lever, it switches to 1, which lets the clock's signal through
#3419 [20:36] <Cial> Lord i hate being this stupid with redstone
#3420 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> We all had to start somewhere.
#3421 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> Cial: get and play through the first few levels of DroidQuest
#3422 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> Cial: you will learn a LOT about boolean logic, which will help with Redstone.
#3423 [20:38] <Cial> droid quest??
#3424 [20:42] <Cial> ok so do both inputs connect to the clock or does one go to a clock and the other to a switch
#3425 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Clock goes to one input
#3426 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> switch goes to the other
#3427 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> and gate is two inputs, one output
#3428 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> well, technically, AND gate is any numbe of inputs, one output
#3429 [20:47] * Telerus [Telerus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3430 [20:47] <Cial> ok thanks
#3431 [20:47] <Telerus> So I found out this is the channel for asking nub questions about minecraft.
#3432 [20:47] <bread> lol
#3433 [20:47] <Cial> once i feel i can turn by back on #minecraft for a bit i will do that
#3434 [20:47] <Telerus> They spammed the crap out of me on the other channel.
#3435 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> among other htings.
#3436 [20:47] * VoxelHead is back
#3436 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> #minecraft is a seething cesspool of unfun.
#3437 [20:48] <Cial> Telerus, welcome to #minecraft: here be trolls
#3438 [20:48] <bread> Telerus: get used to it.
#3439 [20:49] <Cial> someone ping me if it gets to bad in there
#3440 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I mainly stay away from #minecraft.
#3441 [20:50] <bread> I just idle in there lol
#3442 [20:50] <bread> I don't know why.
#3443 [20:51] * Mirkwood [Mirkwood@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3444 [20:51] <Mirkwood> hello all
#3445 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3446 [20:51] <VoxelHead> =D
#3447 [20:51] <Mirkwood> I have a question
#3448 [20:51] * Mob720 [Mob720@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3449 [20:51] <Telerus> I don't see the purpose to the channel, you can't advertise, it's not for technical help or general help.
#3450 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Fire away.
#3451 [20:51] <Telerus> They should shut it down.
#3452 [20:51] * Derkis [Derkis@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3453 [20:51] <Cial> Telerus, its to hang out and talk in
#3454 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Telerus - Fulfills people's needs for general chat
#3455 [20:51] <Telerus> Yeah
#3456 [20:51] <Telerus> I guess =)
#3457 [20:51] <Cial> so what clock should i use for arrow dispensers
#3458 [20:51] <Cial> basic 5 clock?
#3459 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Nothing faster than a 4-tick clcok
#3460 [20:52] * Doomedweapon [Doomedweapon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3461 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> clock even
#3462 [20:52] <Mirkwood> Can i get a free mc account? Im going to pre purchase the game on tuesday but i really want to play now :(
#3463 [20:52] <Cial> wouldnt know how to make a 4 clocck work
#3464 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#3465 [20:52] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survivial, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#3466 [20:52] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#3467 [20:52] <Cial> it only locks the map doesnt it
#3468 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, haven't used it
#3469 [20:52] * Sazandora [Sazandora@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3470 [20:52] <Derkis> has anyone else had trouble with resetting their password recently?
#3471 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes Derkis
#3472 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has been contacted.
#3473 [20:53] <Derkis> Alright, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't only me
#3474 [20:53] <Derkis> Thank you
#3475 [20:53] * Phenex [Phenex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3476 [20:53] * yppah [yppah@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3477 [20:54] <yppah> Hey guys whats good
#3478 [20:54] <Cial> ok so i got a 4 clock working with the help of repeaters
#3479 [20:54] <Doomedweapon> alright, anyone have a quicker way of finding there spawn point other than a compass
#3480 [20:54] <Doomedweapon> because i am seriously lost
#3481 [20:54] <Wug> die
#3482 [20:54] <Cial> yea that does it
#3483 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> ^
#3484 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> wow, nice, there _is_ a demo now?
#3485 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#3486 [20:54] <Cial> yea
#3487 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> cool beans
#3488 [20:55] <Doomedweapon> man, but i don't want to lose my mats/diamond stuff
#3489 [20:55] <Wug> we've known about it for a while, there was a forum post with some code snippets
#3490 [20:55] <Wug> doomedweapon, hit f3
#3491 [20:55] <Cial> but am i supposed to use repeaters as slow as they go in the 4 clock
#3492 [20:55] <VoxelHead> weee hehehehehehehehe
#3493 [20:55] <Phenex> http://pastebin.com/RYFruuhR
#3494 [20:55] <Phenex> Got any ideas? :)
#3495 [20:55] <Wug> when you get to your spawn, remember where it is
#3496 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Cial - Huh?
#3497 [20:56] <Cial> a 4 clock
#3498 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Come to greyvulpine.dyndns.org Cial
#3499 [20:56] <yppah> So I have minecraft preformance issues but I don't get crashes - how should i best diagnose this
#3500 [20:56] <Doomedweapon> well i made my house on this floating outcrop that i thought was unique so i could easily find it
#3501 [20:56] <Telerus> When the commercial version of minecraft does finally come out
#3502 [20:56] <Cial> GreyVulpine, is that a site or a network wtf is that
#3503 [20:56] <Doomedweapon> apparently, the map is wicked big
#3504 [20:56] <Telerus> Will it incude classic version?
#3505 [20:56] <yppah> http://i53.tinypic.com/2ymzlkz.png halp
#3506 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> Doomedweapon: yes, the usable map area is roughtly eight earths
#3507 [20:57] <VoxelHead> I like you :o)
#3508 [20:57] <Doomedweapon> great, so it could take possible years to find?
#3509 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> yppah: that is not a tiny pic.
#3510 [20:57] <Telerus> Yppah I see the game is maxing your computer at points
#3511 [20:57] <Telerus> You should play on a lower setting.
#3512 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Cial - My minecraft server
#3513 [20:57] <yppah> its on as low as i can get it
#3514 [20:57] <yppah> the red and stuff is cpu usage right?
#3515 [20:57] <Cial> GreyVulpine, i have like 0 luck getting into SMP servers
#3516 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> yppah: press 'F' a couple times to increase the fog.
#3517 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> the red is a mix of CPU usage and network latency IIRC
#3518 [20:58] <Phenex> Minecraft crashes and I get this error : http://pastebin.com/RYFruuhR
#3519 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> Also, turn off the monstrosity that is 'smooth lighting'
#3520 [20:58] <Cial> oh shit it loaded
#3521 [20:58] <Cial> what black magic is this
#3522 [20:59] <Cial> GreyVulpine, your connection must be scary as shit
#3523 [21:00] <yppah> what does it mean that mostly my preformance issues only happen when i maximize the game
#3524 [21:01] <Sonicx00888> It means that it has to process a larger space.
#3525 [21:01] <Phenex> Anyone?....
#3526 [21:01] <Cial> oh wow i am getting massive lag but i see what you are trying to tell me
#3527 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Ah, sorry
#3528 [21:01] <Cial> its the dialup you know
#3529 [21:02] <Cial> ouch
#3530 [21:02] <Cial> just disconnected
#3531 [21:02] <Cial> but i think i see
#3532 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> I see that now
#3533 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Oh, I know why..
#3534 [21:03] * GreyVulpine is streaming crap to another computer.
#3534 [21:03] <Cial> could you take a screenshot or something
#3535 [21:03] <Cial> i see how it works but just for reffrence
#3536 [21:04] <Telerus> Can I adverstise here?
#3537 [21:04] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/RYFruuhR Can you help me please...
#3538 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> I'd rather you didn't Telerus.
#3539 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> That's what #smp is for
#3540 [21:04] <Telerus> Where do I got?
#3541 [21:04] <Telerus> Ok thank you.
#3542 [21:04] <Telerus> I'm just trying to find friendly people.
#3543 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> I do what I can to be friendly
#3544 [21:05] <Telerus> Yeah I mean for the server I'm buying :P
#3545 [21:05] <Phenex> Is anyone going to help? :/
#3546 [21:05] <Telerus> But thank you for the channel.
#3547 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Cial - i.imgur.com/5qWnA.png
#3548 [21:05] <Doomedweapon> just found redstone to make a compass for my spawnpoint
#3549 [21:05] <Cial> GreyVulpine, a thousand thanks
#3550 [21:05] <yppah> so changing the fog levels with 'F' only lagged me out harder, it was much smoother to render when the fog was all gone. but i still get like 1 fps
#3551 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - Looks like a problem with your java, reinstall?
#3552 [21:06] <yppah> turning off smooth lighting didnt do anything either
#3553 [21:06] <Phenex> GreyVulpine: I did
#3554 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> yppah: what video card are you using- slate and watercolor paints?
#3555 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Phenex - You actually did a full uninstall, and reinstall with a fresh copy of java?
#3556 [21:07] <yppah> nvidia quadro 2700m
#3557 [21:08] <Phenex> I ran the exe and it asked me if I wanted to reinstall
#3558 [21:08] <yppah> my graphics card is fine, i play bad company 2 and shit on this computer
#3559 [21:08] <Phenex> or should I delete and download a new one
#3560 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> You might want to look into uninstalling it first via the control panel -> programs and features
#3561 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Remove everything java related before you download a fresh java installer from java.com
#3562 [21:10] <Phenex> Oka thanks
#3563 [21:15] <yppah> so any other ideas of what to do about my processor is freaking out and spiking to full red on the F3 screen in minecraft? http://i53.tinypic.com/2ymzlkz.png
#3564 [21:15] <yppah> i use game booster but on and off are no different results
#3565 [21:16] <yppah> and it doesnt crash so i have no errors to check out
#3566 [21:16] <Cial> alright it worked
#3567 [21:16] <Cial> sadly i have not killed any Ghast yet
#3568 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> yppah - Turn off smooth lighting, turn up fog?
#3569 [21:19] * squiggy [squiggy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3570 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> "gamebooster"?
#3571 [21:20] <yppah> fog lags it more/stays the same, so i left the fog off. changing smooth lighting off to no avail either.
#3572 [21:20] <squiggy> The minecraft minecarts wont destroy
#3573 [21:20] * Daxar [Daxar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3574 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> squiggy: that's because they're unarmed.
#3575 [21:20] <yppah> gb is a 3rd party optimizer for your pc. stops unneeded services and stuff and focuses your pc on gaming i guess. idk the technicalities.
#3576 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> ah; I don't trust any of those.
#3577 [21:21] <squiggy> @DopeGhoti : What do you mean ?
#3578 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> yppah - Then, um, how much RAM do you have on your system?
#3579 [21:21] <yppah> it runs at a good 65 fps for like 10-20s when i run it, but if i F3 or full screen or wait long enough, it lags out really hard.
#3580 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Also, system specs?
#3581 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> I mean I administer my own system.
#3582 [21:21] <yppah> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=304843&p=4220666#p4220666
#3583 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> well, if it lags full screen it's probably the GPU turning pruple and falling over.
#3584 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> anyhwo, /me -> home
#3585 [21:22] <yppah> but see it didnt used to. ive played minecraft on this pc since alpha sooooo.....
#3586 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, but minecraft is under constant development, and things change all the time
#3587 [21:22] <yppah> yeah i understand the beta thing
#3588 [21:23] <yppah> its just grrrr i want to play so bad haha
#3589 [21:23] <yppah> and the strange preformance issues on my computer enrage me
#3590 [21:23] <squiggy> Like my minecarts I place run on the track , but when i try to remove it from the track it wont destroy ?
#3591 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Could you try launching minecraft with reduced RAM allocation?
#3592 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> squiggy - Are you holding down left click to destroy the minecarts? Usually takes a few seconds
#3593 [21:24] <yppah> so lower the ram im letting minecraft use? like by doing it on the javaw.exe in task manager or some other way
#3594 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> yppah - By executing it via a command line
#3595 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> You can download the minecraft.jar file from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3596 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Using your command line, or a batch file, you can modify the -Xms and -Xmx arguments to change how much RAM minecraft allocates at the start, and how much it grows to
#3597 [21:25] <squiggy> I figured it now . When using Single Player Command Mod , Make sure you turn off "instantkill" cause it wont destory the minecart .
#3598 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Try -Xms512M -Xmx512M
#3599 [21:25] <yppah> java -Xmx1016m -Xms1016m -jar minecraft.jar is what i had
#3600 [21:25] <yppah> ill try that
#3601 [21:25] <yppah> one sec
#3602 [21:27] <squiggy> isent their a mod for more fps for minecraft for slower pcs ? i thought their was
#3603 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> optimine or something.
#3604 [21:28] <squiggy> Yeah .
#3605 [21:28] <squiggy> i think so . does it still work for 1.5_01
#3606 [21:28] <yppah> i try run the bat file and i get 'Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from minecraft.jar"
#3607 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> I don't know
#3608 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> yppah - It needs to be in the same folder as the minecraft.jar
#3609 [21:28] * Mariancho [Mariancho@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3610 [21:29] <yppah> it is
#3611 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> The same minecraft.jar you got from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp ?
#3612 [21:29] <yppah> Roaming/.minecraft/bin
#3613 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Not there
#3614 [21:29] <yppah> oh well
#3615 [21:29] <yppah> the minecraft i downloaded is just an exe
#3616 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.jar in the bin folder is different from minecraft.jar, from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3617 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> The one on the download page is the launcher
#3618 [21:30] <yppah> well the only jar i see to download there is for linux
#3619 [21:30] <yppah> get that one?
#3620 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3621 [21:30] <yppah> k
#3622 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Do not replace your /bin minecraft.jar with it
#3623 [21:31] <yppah> alright
#3624 [21:31] <yppah> put it wherever and just use the bat on that file in that directory?
#3625 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3626 [21:31] <squiggy> oh make sure you make a backup of ur other minecraft.jar just in case
#3627 [21:31] <Mariancho> Hello. Is there anyone from minecraft dev group to whom I can talk? Got somethin' important about some illegal buisness
#3628 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Mariancho - We're just community-run support here, we have no official affiliation with Mojang here
#3629 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me what the issue is? I could direct you to whom you need to contact
#3630 [21:32] <Mariancho> ah k, sry then guys
#3631 [21:33] <Mariancho> I found someone selling minecraft CLASIC acounts
#3632 [21:33] <Mariancho> which are free
#3633 [21:33] * GreyVulpine blinks
#3633 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Um, wow. Uh..
#3634 [21:33] <bread> lol
#3635 [21:33] <bread> wow
#3636 [21:34] <yppah> ok, i ran the modifying batch file and it accepted that .jar. after it left the cmd, it opened the launcher and i ran the game, but the allocated memory still says 1016 on the top right of F3
#3637 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't know whose lap to put that one... perhaps daniel@mojang.com?
#3638 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> yppah - Did you modify the bat file to have -Xms512M -Xmx512M?
#3639 [21:35] <yppah> yes
#3640 [21:35] <yppah> this is the line
#3641 [21:35] <yppah> java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -jar minecraft.jar
#3642 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> And you launched it via the .bat file..
#3643 [21:35] <yppah> yes
#3644 [21:35] <Mariancho> hm so Daniel is someone from the staff who would do something about this issue?
#3645 [21:35] <yppah> after it modifys that jar do i replace the bin one?
#3646 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Mariancho - He's the business developer for Mojang
#3647 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> yppah - No. you don't need to touch the bin one
#3648 [21:37] <Mariancho> ah, so I guess he's the right person. Thx for your help. I'll write to him right away
#3649 [21:39] <yppah> ya this batch isnt modifying the ram allocated
#3650 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> yppah - It.. should, I don't know why it isn't.
#3651 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> You can see the example command line argument at http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3652 [21:39] * Aconitin [Aconitin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3653 [21:45] <yppah> what does the nogui add
#3654 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> that's for the server
#3655 [21:46] <yppah> well then my line is identical, idk
#3656 [21:47] <yppah> just swapped the Xms and Xmx and still nothing
#3657 [21:47] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3658 [21:50] * Wug experiments
#3658 [21:51] <Wug> you are running the batch right, not the launcher
#3659 [21:51] <yppah> yes
#3660 [21:51] <yppah> i even put a PAUSE in to see the cmd
#3661 [21:52] <yppah> the batch launches the launcher itself
#3662 [21:54] * lilomar [lilomar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3663 [21:55] <yppah> gonna try fresh installing java, the browser version is saying java-6 is outdated and chrome doesnt run it
#3664 [21:59] * Sqozza [Sqozza@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3665 [22:01] * Sazandora [Sazandora@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3666 [22:01] * Napolleon [Napolleon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3667 [22:03] <Wug> are you running java or javaw
#3668 [22:03] <Wug> nvm he left
#3669 [22:03] <Napolleon> can unlighted celling in cave spawn monster ?
#3670 [22:04] <Wug> ghasts and pigmen can spawn anywhere in the nether
#3671 [22:04] <Wug> regardless of light
#3672 [22:04] <Wug> pigmen only spawn on the ground
#3673 [22:04] <Napolleon> but on mainland its in my Mineshaft
#3674 [22:04] * mr_flea_ [mr_flea_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3675 [22:04] * fizyplankton [fizyplankton@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3676 [22:05] <Napolleon> I have monster spawning in my main room whit torch evrywhere
#3677 [22:05] <Wug> derp nether
#3678 [22:05] <Wug> where did that come from
#3679 [22:05] <Wug> no, monsters don't spawn on the ceiling
#3680 [22:07] * Matthew [Matthew@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3681 [22:08] <Matthew> Hello. I was wondering If I can get some help. Im hosting a server and every time I try to connect to it. I get a java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 116
#3682 [22:08] <Matthew> I dont know why
#3683 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Server updated?
#3684 [22:09] <VoxelHead> Let me consult a fortune cookie.
#3685 [22:09] <bread> LOL
#3686 [22:09] <aetherian> xD
#3687 [22:09] <bread> <3 vox
#3688 [22:09] <Matthew> oo yeah I didn't realize there was an update. I'll give that a try quick. Thank you
#3689 [22:11] <Matthew> That update did work. Thank you guys again :)
#3690 [22:11] * GreyVulpine nods
#3690 [22:14] <Wug> voxelhead doesn't talk to me anymore... :(
#3691 [22:14] * Wug misses vox
#3691 [22:14] * VoxelHead misses Wug
#3691 [22:15] <Wug> somebody made him do that, it doesn't count *sniff*
#3692 [22:15] * thig [thig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3693 [22:15] <thig> hey,when i try to run cube kingdom,it says directx and then a bunch of english words
#3694 [22:16] <thig> in a seperate window
#3695 [22:16] <Wug> hello again thig
#3696 [22:16] <Wug> we're serious, its not just minecraft
#3697 [22:16] <thig> hello
#3698 [22:17] <Wug> get a discrete graphics card
#3699 [22:17] <thig> i cant run cube knigdom?
#3700 [22:17] <thig> wow
#3701 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> What in the world is cube kingdom?\
#3702 [22:18] <thig> it allows you to disign houses without doing it ingame
#3703 [22:18] * Pacer [Pacer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3704 [22:19] <thig> any programs that do the same but require a not good graphics card?
#3705 [22:19] <thig> morte like dont need a good graphics card
#3706 [22:20] <thig> hey wug
#3707 [22:20] <thig> you are a helpful person
#3708 [22:20] <thig> seriously
#3709 [22:20] <thig> i mean it
#3710 [22:20] <thig> not like sarcasm
#3711 [22:23] <thig> so no then?ok
#3712 [22:24] <bread> ...
#3713 [22:26] * LordTrevor [LordTrevor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3714 [22:27] * LordTrevor [LordTrevor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3715 [22:29] * r0w [r0w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3716 [22:30] * VoxelHead is away: for a bit
#3716 [22:33] * Telerus [Telerus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3717 [22:34] * Telerus Shakes everyones hand.
#3717 [22:40] * LordTrevor [LordTrevor@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3718 [22:40] * Lymia [Lymia@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3719 [22:41] * Lymia [Lymia@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3720 [22:41] * Azu [Azu@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3721 [22:42] * WarFare3 [WarFare3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3722 [22:44] * Telerus [Telerus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3723 [22:44] * WarFare3 [WarFare3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3724 [22:44] <WarFare3> jemand deutsch ?
#3725 [22:46] <WarFare3> hello ??
#3726 [22:49] <bread> mein Deutsch ist sehr sehr schlecht! :D
#3727 [22:50] <WarFare3> brauche hilfe will den ingamechat in eine chatbox auf meine homepage einbauen
#3728 [22:51] * Jackson413 [Jackson413@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3729 [22:52] <Jackson413> when did 1.4 come out
#3730 [22:53] <Jackson413> or where could i find the info
#3731 [22:54] <Cial> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#3732 [22:54] <Jackson413> <3
#3733 [22:56] <Telerus> I found a pink sheel and wool since 1_5
#3734 [22:56] <Telerus> sheep*
#3735 [23:06] * hassifa [hassifa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3736 [23:08] * clearrunway [clearrunway@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3737 [23:08] <clearrunway> hey i just have a quick question
#3738 [23:08] * Arakiel34719 [Arakiel34719@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3739 [23:09] <clearrunway> i just set up a server and am connecting to it from the same machine. how do i gove my character ops?
#3740 [23:12] <bread> /op <name>
#3741 [23:30] * BizarreCake [BizarreCake@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3742 [23:31] * Maulmauk [Maulmauk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3743 [23:32] * vetaboy [vetaboy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3744 [23:34] <vetaboy> hello?
#3745 [23:34] * Dimedo [Dimedo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3746 [23:35] <bread> lol
#3747 [23:37] <lemon-rev> is that in ginger - bread ?
#3748 [23:38] <bread> :o
#3749 [23:41] * The_Crazy0ne [The_Crazy0ne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3750 [23:41] <The_Crazy0ne> Anyone know how to update a server without losing data?
#3751 [23:43] <The_Crazy0ne> Anyone..?
#3752 [23:45] <Napolleon> backup evrything :)
#3753 [23:46] <The_Crazy0ne> Do you like re-download the server and replace the data folder?
#3754 [23:55] * thig [thig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3755 [23:56] <thig> hey,where is the download for crafty miner?have you heard of it?if you havent,its right here.http://craftyminer.com/
#3756 [23:56] <thig> i cant find the download on it
#3757 [23:56] <thig> annoying
#3758 [23:58] <thig> you guys awake?
#3759 [23:58] <aetherian> nyet
#3760 [23:58] <thig> can you help me?
#3761 [23:58] * Tails_155[^w^] [Tails_155[^w^]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3762 [23:59] <aetherian> again, nyet.
#3763 [23:59] <thig> darn