#1 [00:00] <thig> anybody else awake?
#2 [00:00] <ionface> kuoushi.com is streaming windwaker
#3 [00:01] <thig> ionface can you help me?
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#5 [00:03] <ionface> thig, IDK
#6 [00:03] <bread> massive bear nein.
#7 [00:03] <ionface> if you can't find it with google, maybe it's outdated...
#8 [00:04] <ionface> thig, try sf.net
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#14 [00:23] <Mirkwood> can someone give me a premium acc for minecraft
#15 [00:23] <Mirkwood> please
#16 [00:24] <Captain-Lightning> Mirkwood, this is the channel for help.
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#18 [00:24] <Captain-Lightning> Not for begging.
#19 [00:24] <Captain-Lightning> Ask a friend.
#20 [00:24] <Mirkwood> please forgive me
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#30 [00:49] <Aldoi> Does anyone know where I can find out the info so I know if my computer will run minecraft before I buys it?
#31 [00:50] <xales> We can tell you
#32 [00:50] <xales> ??> Aldoi win/dxdiag
#33 [00:50] <VoxelHead> Aldoi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#34 [00:50] <VoxelHead> Aldoi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#35 [00:53] <Aldoi> Paste all of it or just the sys info?
#36 [00:53] <xales> It's all system info
#37 [00:53] <xales> paste all of it :)
#38 [00:54] <Aldoi> http://pastebin.com/G0AUtSWg
#39 [00:57] <xales> It...might be able to play it, I'm not sure
#40 [00:57] <xales> The problem is the Intel integrated GPU
#41 [00:57] <xales> (basically, the worst GPUs that exist currently)
#42 [00:57] <xales> I'm not sure if that would be able to play it, but I'm not sure
#43 [00:57] <xales> Otherwise, you are fine
#44 [00:58] <Aldoi> Oh well worth a shot
#45 [00:58] <Apoca> Save $100, or $150, buy a new GPU from newegg, and then buy minecraft
#46 [00:58] <Aldoi> It's my laptop :)
#47 [00:58] <Apoca> Hmm
#48 [00:58] <Apoca> I have an idea
#49 [00:58] <Apoca> Before you buy the game
#50 [00:58] <Apoca> try playing classic
#51 [00:58] <floatereater> run the free version in browser
#52 [00:58] <floatereater> if it can run that good chance it will be worth buying
#53 [00:59] <Aldoi> Oh that worked I just thought the full version would be harder on my system
#54 [00:59] <Apoca> Keep in mind, you may get some lag spikes in the free/browser version that you might not get in the downloadable version
#55 [00:59] <Apoca> Did you lag a lot?
#56 [01:00] <Apoca> If not, you should be fine
#57 [01:00] <Aldoi> Nopt really
#58 [01:00] <killergut> hi
#59 [01:01] <killergut> i cant seem to update my minecraft in browser i get a failed launc
#60 [01:01] <Aldoi> Thanks!
#61 [01:02] <xales> killergut: what?
#62 [01:06] <killergut> xales: when i try to update now it says Failed Launch
#63 [01:06] <killergut> and then a location below it
#64 [01:06] <xales> killergut: try playing not in the browser
#65 [01:06] <killergut> same thing
#66 [01:07] <xales> ??> killergut win/reinst
#67 [01:07] <VoxelHead> killergut: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#68 [01:07] <VoxelHead> killergut: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#69 [01:08] <killergut> thanks its working now!
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#73 [01:25] <vetaboy> hello>
#74 [01:25] <xales> Hi
#75 [01:25] <Hevy> Hey
#76 [01:26] <Hevy> I've got a problem running minecraft, need some help
#77 [01:26] <xales> Hevy: What's the issue?
#78 [01:26] <Hevy> I tried deleting and redownloading everything
#79 [01:26] <vetaboy> do you gat a black screen?
#80 [01:26] <Hevy> But after I log in from the launcher, I get this
#81 [01:26] <vetaboy> *get
#82 [01:26] <Hevy> not a black screen
#83 [01:26] <vetaboy> oh okk
#84 [01:27] <Hevy> it shows the progress bar for the download, but it doesnt actually download anything
#85 [01:27] <vetaboy> that has happened to my friend
#86 [01:27] <Hevy> am I allowed to post a link to a picture?
#87 [01:27] <xales> Hevy - firewall running?
#88 [01:27] <Hevy> checked, firewall isnt blocking mc
#89 [01:27] <Hevy> http://i.imgur.com/kPW7a.jpg
#90 [01:28] <xales> ??> Hevy win/reinst
#91 [01:28] <VoxelHead> Hevy: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#92 [01:28] <VoxelHead> Hevy: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#93 [01:28] <xales> That should fix it
#94 [01:28] <Hevy> and if I have no minecraft directory?
#95 [01:28] <vetaboy> what?
#96 [01:28] <Hevy> I deleted the whole thing instead of just the bin folder
#97 [01:28] <xales> You do
#98 [01:28] <vetaboy> %appdata%
#99 [01:28] <xales> It re-created it when you launched it, then
#100 [01:29] <vetaboy> I got problem with my world
#101 [01:29] <Hevy> now its downloading, awesome
#102 [01:30] <Hevy> thanks
#103 [01:30] <xales> vetaboy: Can you be more specific?
#104 [01:30] <xales> Hevy: No problem
#105 [01:30] <vetaboy> Yer in the world select screen it doesn'
#106 [01:30] <vetaboy> show up
#107 [01:30] <xales> Download MCEdit, open the world with it, and re-save it
#108 [01:30] <vetaboy> where can I download MCedit?
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#110 [01:31] <xales> You would google "MCedit" and look
#111 [01:31] <xales> but for convience, http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#112 [01:31] <vetaboy> Should I get the standard one?
#113 [01:32] <vetaboy> or the one with more feautures?
#114 [01:32] <xales> "Stable"
#115 [01:32] <vetaboy> ok
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#118 [01:33] <xales> xolotl: rejoin <.<
#119 [01:36] <vetaboy> do I load the level.dat file into MCEdit?
#120 [01:36] <xales> Yes
#121 [01:37] <vetaboy> Thanks
#122 [01:37] <xolotl> xales: hurr?
#123 [01:37] <xales> xolotl: #smp
#124 [01:37] <xales> ._.
#125 [01:37] <xolotl> Oh, I see.
#126 [01:37] <xolotl> :)
#127 [01:38] <xolotl> xales: thx!
#128 [01:38] <xales> no problem, lol
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#130 [01:48] <Ehtyar> how do you see under water?
#131 [01:49] <aetherian> by buying a nice pair of goggles
#132 [01:50] <Ehtyar> i'm sure there are many fine google vendors in minecraft
#133 [01:57] <Apoca> could probably find a mod that let you see underwater
#134 [01:58] <_303> like crystal clear waters
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#136 [02:14] <aetherian> vox!
#137 [02:14] <VoxelHead> ;)
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#139 [02:20] <VoxelHead> Bye hydreigon.
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#142 [02:23] <Lee_> Hello guys, is there any plugin to stop people using TNT or any other items?
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#152 [03:21] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#153 [03:21] <frogonia> can anyone help me, i just purchased minecraft but when i go to update it gets stuck on the loading bar screen and says downloading packages. please help thanks.
#154 [03:22] <aetherian> uh
#155 [03:22] <aetherian> so it gets stuck downloading packages?
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#157 [03:23] <frogonia> yeh
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#159 [03:24] <aetherian> I, personally, would try deleting my .minecraft, if I had no saves.
#160 [03:24] <aetherian> rather
#161 [03:25] <aetherian> the bin would likely suffice
#162 [03:25] <aetherian> what operating system are you on?
#163 [03:26] <frogonia> windows xp, i've tried everything
#164 [03:26] <aetherian> oh?
#165 [03:26] <aetherian> ?? win/reinst
#166 [03:26] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#167 [03:27] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#168 [03:27] <aetherian> if you've done this, don't bother doing it again
#169 [03:27] <frogonia> yeh it doesn't work...
#170 [03:28] <aetherian> you did it already then?
#171 [03:29] <aetherian> okay, so where exactly is the bar, roughly, when it stops
#172 [03:29] <frogonia> like half an inch is green
#173 [03:29] <aetherian> ...
#174 [03:30] <aetherian> percentages are better, because actual length tells us nothing.
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#176 [03:31] <frogonia> it doesn't say a percent
#177 [03:31] * aetherian grabs his lart
#177 [03:31] <frogonia> ...
#178 [03:32] <aetherian> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimation D:
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#180 [03:33] <VoxelHead> Bye pacman.
#181 [03:33] <frogonia> like 10% maybe.
#182 [03:33] <Apoca> Voxe, you disappoint me.
#183 [03:33] <frogonia> it hasn't move at all though
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#185 [03:34] <aetherian> and you /did/ delete the bin and restart minecraft, right?
#186 [03:34] <frogonia> yes
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#188 [03:39] <frogonia> ...
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#190 [03:41] <Fizzex|minecraft> can I talk in here?
#191 [03:41] <Fizzex|minecraft> Sweet!
#192 [03:41] <VoxelHead> Sweeeeeeeeeeet!
#193 [03:41] <_303> frogonia: have you logged in the launcher with your username and password?
#194 [03:41] <frogonia> yes..
#195 [03:41] <aetherian> yes, but you have a huge-freakin'-name, fizzex
#196 [03:41] <Fizzex|minecraft> Apparently I was banned on #minecraft while I wasn't even logged in :/
#197 [03:42] <_303> ?? irc
#198 [03:42] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#199 [03:42] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#200 [03:42] <aetherian> what is with people and huge names nowadays D:
#201 [03:42] <Fizzex|minecraft> my name is huge?
#202 [03:42] <Fizzex|minecraft> anywho...I digress
#203 [03:43] <Fizzex|minecraft> my problem, is anyone else having issues with the game where when you click a block it crashes?
#204 [03:43] <Fizzex|minecraft> since 1.5 came out it does
#205 [03:43] <Fizzex|minecraft> for me
#206 [03:43] <_303> multiplayer?
#207 [03:43] <aetherian> then don't click blocks :D
#208 [03:43] <aetherian> heh
#209 [03:43] <VoxelHead> :-)
#210 [03:43] <Fizzex|minecraft> SMP, yes
#211 [03:43] <_303> what is the server version?
#212 [03:44] <Fizzex|minecraft> one sec
#213 [03:44] <Fizzex|minecraft> assuming it's telling me what the server is running rather than me it's 1.5_01
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#215 [03:46] <Telerus> What is the channel for MSP mode?
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#217 [03:47] <Thunder1> hey
#218 [03:47] <Thunder1> how can i downgrade to mc 1.4
#219 [03:48] <relsqui> if you kept a backup you can revert to it, otherwise you can't
#220 [03:48] <Telerus> What's the IRC channel for multiplayer survival mode, server spammage?
#221 [03:49] <Fizzex|minecraft> so any ideas on why I crash when I try to actually play?
#222 [03:50] <Telerus> There could be several reasons, one being outdated video card drives.
#223 [03:50] <Telerus> Outdated java.
#224 [03:50] <Thunder1> many server do not support 1.5
#225 [03:50] <Telerus> Outdated Direct X controls.
#226 [03:50] <Fizzex|minecraft> Just updated java yesterday, video card drivers were updated three days ago has DX updated since 11?
#227 [03:51] <Telerus> Alright, is it an error or does it just close with out a message.
#228 [03:51] <Fizzex|minecraft> And other people have been playing on the server fine so I assume its on my end. No error, just forcecloses
#229 [03:51] <Telerus> Forcecloses are hardware failures.
#230 [03:51] <Fizzex|minecraft> or rather just closes (spening way too much time on my droid)
#231 [03:51] <Telerus> Typically your video card.
#232 [03:52] <Telerus> Seems to be having issues with java, do you play COD ect?
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#234 [03:52] <Fizzex|minecraft> Nope. The only other PC game I play is Warrock
#235 [03:53] <Telerus> Right click the short cut run as administrator.
#236 [03:53] <Telerus> Just take my word for it, if it crashes than let me know.
#237 [03:54] <Telerus> If it states move it to a folder on C:/ ect when running it as admin let me know.
#238 [03:55] <Fizzex|minecraft> It's already under C:/program files/minecraft for me
#239 [03:55] <Fizzex|minecraft> Tried it, mined up a sand block but when I went to replace the sandblock it froze and crashed
#240 [03:56] <VoxelHead> mmm thebix
#241 [03:56] <Telerus> I've yet to hear of that, sounds like you've a hardware issues, possibley either processor having issues remembering and placing blocks.
#242 [03:56] <Telerus> Or graphics glitching causing you to crash.
#243 [03:56] <Telerus> No idea, sorry I can't help.
#244 [03:57] <Fizzex|minecraft> Odd that it would happen so suddenly :/
#245 [03:57] <Telerus> Have you restarted your computer since the crashing?
#246 [03:57] <VoxelHead> i know i know, but i have to be paid in pies
#247 [03:57] <Telerus> I know automatic updates like to udpate drivers that need to be restarted.
#248 [03:57] <Telerus> And they never tell you.
#249 [03:58] <Telerus> That can cause issues.
#250 [03:58] <Fizzex|minecraft> It was doing it this morning, I turned it off and went to work and here I am :P
#251 [03:58] <Telerus> The cat was playing all day... burned out the cpu.
#252 [03:59] <Telerus> Open your task manager, than go to the graph that shows cpu usage ect.
#253 [03:59] <Telerus> Open the game and let me know what happens on the graph.
#254 [03:59] <Telerus> Memory leaks are rare, but your computers ram might not be releasing new data and reusing it.
#255 [04:00] <Telerus> This game is ram and processor intensive.
#256 [04:00] <Telerus> More so than video card.
#257 [04:00] <Fizzex|minecraft> it peaked at 91% CPU usage 2.1 GB memory
#258 [04:01] <Fizzex|minecraft> I have 4GB ram
#259 [04:01] <Telerus> Yeah that's fine, computers often hit 100%, what I should of asked was.
#260 [04:01] <VoxelHead> should what?
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#262 [04:01] <Telerus> If you're seeing any spikes in Total Memory and Available.
#263 [04:01] <Fizzex|minecraft> alrighty
#264 [04:01] <Telerus> If available memory drops from 1.5gig to like 500mb really fast.
#265 [04:01] <Telerus> You need to replace your ram.
#266 [04:02] <Telerus> If it stays in the area of 1.5gig or what have you.
#267 [04:02] <Telerus> It's all good.
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#269 [04:02] <Fizzex|minecraft> Kernal or Physical?
#270 [04:02] <silversig> Hello
#271 [04:02] <Telerus> Phsyical
#272 [04:02] <Telerus> Kernel is for windows specific and never changes.
#273 [04:02] * Fizzex|minecraft is assuming physical but will ask
#273 [04:02] <Telerus> Unless you mess it up.
#274 [04:03] <Fizzex|minecraft> 49MB free now
#275 [04:03] <silversig> When someone gets a min. I need some help getting minecraft working :)
#276 [04:03] <Fizzex|minecraft> 2 free when I boot minecraft
#277 [04:04] <Telerus> You're looking at physical ya?
#278 [04:04] <Fizzex|minecraft> yes
#279 [04:04] <Telerus> Do you mean 490 free and 200 free?
#280 [04:04] <Fizzex|minecraft> crashed and jumped to 409 free
#281 [04:04] <Telerus> You've bad ram.
#282 [04:04] <Telerus> Computer parts are like cars, need changed once in a while.
#283 [04:04] <Telerus> Even sometimes a few weeks or months after youbuy it
#284 [04:05] <Telerus> Silversig, what's happening?
#285 [04:05] <Fizzex|minecraft> figures ;[ I was hoping it was something else
#286 [04:05] <Telerus> Fizzex your computer is going below it's limit on ram thus shutting down the current task to prvent the computer from cashing.
#287 [04:05] <Telerus> Crashing
#288 [04:05] <Telerus> What you can do, which windows you using?
#289 [04:05] <Fizzex|minecraft> Vista Ultimate 64bit
#290 [04:06] <Telerus> Go to the run section
#291 [04:06] <Telerus> Well its not run
#292 [04:06] <Fizzex|minecraft> roger
#293 [04:06] <Telerus> but the search feature.
#294 [04:06] <Telerus> Type in Msconfig.
#295 [04:06] <Telerus> Go to startup and disable everything and reboot.
#296 [04:06] <Telerus> That will clear up ram, and you can just manually accept other programs when you need them
#297 [04:06] <Telerus> Like msn, and yahoo.
#298 [04:07] <silversig> Telerus let me know when you get a min :)
#299 [04:07] <Telerus> I've a minute.
#300 [04:07] <Fizzex|minecraft> already done, like, years ago on that bit :P
#301 [04:07] <Telerus> Might as well do it again.
#302 [04:07] <Telerus> You never know what creeps in
#303 [04:07] <Telerus> Yeah ideally vista sucks.
#304 [04:08] <Telerus> 4gigs of ram and uses 2 gigs for the os.
#305 [04:08] <Telerus> But, you can't do much about it.
#306 [04:08] <Fizzex|minecraft> Actually I do, Soluto is a great program on cutting out the startup crap
#307 [04:08] <silversig> Cool, Everytime I log into a multiplayer server i just load in and it looks like im falling infinatly and eventualy i get dced.
#308 [04:08] <Fizzex|minecraft> vista does suck though V.V
#309 [04:08] <Telerus> Just 1 server or multiple servers silver?
#310 [04:09] <Telerus> I had that bug on single player and had to delete it.
#311 [04:09] <silversig> multiple
#312 [04:09] <silversig> ive deleted minecraft like 600 times by now
#313 [04:09] <Telerus> Im talking about my map.
#314 [04:09] <Telerus> Hmm
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#317 [04:10] <silversig> Java uptodate
#318 [04:10] <Telerus> So you get into a server and automatically shows you falling?
#319 [04:10] <silversig> yea
#320 [04:10] <Telerus> Your computer should recongize the rules of the world and not allow you to fall through.
#321 [04:10] <silversig> hm
#322 [04:10] <Fizzex|minecraft> right, well thanks for confirming my fear Tel. This'll be my third time getting this laptop serviced
#323 [04:10] <Telerus> Even if your graphics card, ram and processor are bad.
#324 [04:10] <Telerus> Sounds like a new bug, wait a few days.
#325 [04:10] <Telerus> Maybe it will be fixed in a patch.
#326 [04:11] <Telerus> Sorry Fizzex.
#327 [04:11] <Fizzex|minecraft> Well a good tell was when I booted this morning it went to beeping at me
#328 [04:11] <Fizzex|minecraft> at gave me colored bars
#329 [04:11] <Telerus> Oh.. the beep...
#330 [04:11] <Fizzex|minecraft> and*
#331 [04:11] <Telerus> That's your ram trying to load and dump data so it doesn't crash.
#332 [04:11] <Telerus> You need new ram or more ram.
#333 [04:11] <Fizzex|minecraft> yep :/
#334 [04:12] <Telerus> Glad I could help at least you know what it is.
#335 [04:12] <Telerus> Btw if you can get DDR3 ram.
#336 [04:12] <Telerus> Get it.
#337 [04:12] <Fizzex|minecraft> Thank you again ^_^ and all four gigs are DDR3 :D
#338 [04:13] <silversig> Tel would you like a screenshot?
#339 [04:14] <Telerus> Yes silver
#340 [04:14] <Telerus> DDR3 standard with the laptop hmm wow.
#341 [04:14] <Telerus> Must be newish?
#342 [04:14] <aetherian> <3 DDR3 :D
#343 [04:16] <Telerus> <3 DDR4
#344 [04:16] <Telerus> o.0
#345 [04:16] <Telerus> ___
#346 [04:16] <aetherian> DDR42 is the answer!
#347 [04:16] <Fizzex|minecraft> well it was one of the first laptops it came standard in
#348 [04:16] <Fizzex|minecraft> Dell XPS
#349 [04:18] <Telerus> Silver, need help finding your screenshots?
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#353 [04:28] <silversig> nah
#354 [04:28] <silversig> i was just super confused
#355 [04:28] <silversig> i found like a fix to the loading problem
#356 [04:31] * Wug has been pinged, backreads
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#357 [04:32] <Wug> but I can't see anything
#358 [04:32] <Wug> if anyone wanted me, do so again so I can see it
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#361 [04:34] <silversig> ?
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#368 [05:06] <silversig> 0.0
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#370 [05:12] <aetherian> beautiful
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#372 [05:14] <colbseton> hey
#373 [05:15] <aetherian> whee!
#374 [05:15] <aetherian> hello!
#375 [05:15] <colbseton> i've got a problem with HD texture pack
#376 [05:15] <aetherian> Well then, why don't you try out this amazing new texture pack
#377 [05:16] <aetherian> I call it: vanilla
#378 [05:16] <aetherian> oh god I need some caffeine
#379 [05:16] <colbseton> i wanna change :d
#380 [05:16] <colbseton> in fact, i hit a cow, or a sheep and minecraft bugs
#381 [05:17] <aetherian> define: "bugs"
#382 [05:17] <Wug> I wish I hadn't backread
#383 [05:17] <colbseton> hum
#384 [05:17] <Wug> anyway, what do you mean by it 'bugs'? that's rather vague
#385 [05:18] <aetherian> ^I se- er, first that.
#386 [05:18] <colbseton> minecraft bugs, i've seen a black screen and i have to reboot minecraft
#387 [05:18] <colbseton> my english is too bad, i know :-�
#388 [05:19] <Wug> have you applied the hd texture pack fix?
#389 [05:19] <aetherian> are you using any mods?
#390 [05:19] <colbseton> i'm not using any mods
#391 [05:20] <colbseton> Wug: i have, with � mcpatcher �
#392 [05:20] <aetherian> then if you get blackscreens
#393 [05:20] <aetherian> reinstall minecraft
#394 [05:20] <colbseton> in fact, minecraft turns off
#395 [05:20] <aetherian> wait what
#396 [05:20] <colbseton> :D
#397 [05:20] <aetherian> a program doesn't "turn off"
#398 [05:20] <Wug> Telerus ... isn't here anymore
#399 [05:20] <Wug> lucky him
#400 [05:21] <Wug> He has a wall of wrath coming for that previous help session
#401 [05:21] <aetherian> what
#402 [05:21] <aetherian> what'd he do
#403 [05:21] <Wug> he spouted some bogus
#404 [05:21] <aetherian> fine, what'd he do that made him any different from everyone else
#405 [05:21] <Wug> wrath is probably too strong, perhaps I'll downgrade to just corrections
#406 [05:22] <Wug> he spouted a lot of bogus
#407 [05:22] <aetherian> okay
#408 [05:22] <aetherian> so what made him different from everyone else
#409 [05:22] <Wug> i've seen some off kilter suggestions before, but never so many in such a short time
#410 [05:22] <colbseton> may i would say � it shuts down ?
#411 [05:23] <aetherian> have you tried zulingying your wambiguzle?
#412 [05:23] <Wug> that's fine.
#413 [05:23] <aetherian> *wampiguzle
#414 [05:23] <Wug> aetherian, please try to be useful
#415 [05:23] <aetherian> I was mocki-
#416 [05:23] <aetherian> oh never mind you.
#417 [05:23] <fogWraith> So I ventured down to the 9th circle of hell to get you this bucket of hate, for nothing? Wug !
#418 [05:24] <Wug> colbseton, was mcpatcher up to date
#419 [05:24] <colbseton> anyway, it's not the first time. with an another HD pack it was the same things
#420 [05:24] <aetherian> besides
#421 [05:24] <aetherian> I doubt any HD pack is updated yet
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#423 [05:24] <aetherian> could be wrong, true.
#424 [05:24] <aetherian> but...
#425 [05:24] <Wug> I'd not bother with any hd packs anyway. I've been looking for a nice 32x32 pack but haven't found one
#426 [05:24] <Wug> and I rather like that the default pack updates automatically
#427 [05:24] <aetherian> I like vanilla ;_;
#428 [05:24] <colbseton> look at this http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=156638
#429 [05:25] <_303> tried dokucraft? it's pretty sexy. though I always will prefer painterly
#430 [05:25] <colbseton> Wug: i'm going take a look
#431 [05:25] <aetherian> blimey
#432 [05:25] <Wug> from any sort of distance, texture pack resolution makes no difference
#433 [05:26] <Wug> anyway, to list telerus' transgressions:
#434 [05:26] <aetherian> that's why I'm still looking for a 4x4 pack
#435 [05:26] <Wug> "Outdated Direct X controls." Minecraft does not use directx
#436 [05:26] <aetherian> and thank god for that, too.
#437 [05:26] <fogWraith> It should use DirectPlay! Hohoho!
#438 [05:26] <Wug> "Forcecloses are hardware failures." minecraft will close for a huge number of reasons, with only a few being hardware related
#439 [05:27] <aetherian> Wug: yes yes, we get it
#440 [05:27] <aetherian> somebody blathered
#441 [05:27] <fogWraith> 2: sound and vid. drivers
#442 [05:27] <aetherian> the end
#443 [05:27] <fogWraith> aetherian, here, coffee on me
#444 [05:27] <Wug> "possibley either processor having issues remembering and placing blocks." ... umm what
#445 [05:28] <aetherian> the heck is this, fog
#446 [05:28] <aetherian> it's like... white
#447 [05:28] <fogWraith> I uh... it should... I mean... hnnngh
#448 [05:28] <Wug> "Memory leaks are rare, but your computers ram might not be releasing new data and reusing it." If that we're the case, he'd never get to run the thing more than once before the computer became inoperable
#449 [05:28] <fogWraith> "cream"
#450 [05:29] <aetherian> when you said half and half
#451 [05:29] <aetherian> I didn't think you meant half cream half coffee
#452 [05:29] <Wug> "If available memory drops from 1.5gig to like 500mb really fast." (telling person to look out for this) This is a perfectly normal part of starting minecraft, it allocates about 1GB of your ram.
#453 [05:29] <aetherian> we get it, wug!
#454 [05:30] <Wug> "Kernel memory is for windows specific and never changes." very much nope. I watched mine change. also, all os's have kernels
#455 [05:30] <aetherian> asdf
#456 [05:30] <Wug> "You've bad ram." he has, at this point, diagnosed minecraft crashing be be because of ram, processor, and video card
#457 [05:30] <fogWraith> jkl�
#458 [05:31] <aetherian> .___________.
#459 [05:31] <Wug> "Even sometimes a few weeks or months after youbuy it" replace your computer parts regularly!!!1
#460 [05:31] <aetherian> yeah okay
#461 [05:31] <fogWraith> I have no idea whats going on here
#462 [05:31] <aetherian> no need to repost everything he said
#463 [05:32] <Wug> "Fizzex your computer is going below it's limit on ram thus shutting down the current task to prvent the computer from cashing." (sic) the os shows a warning when this happens.
#464 [05:32] <aetherian> I think he ignored me.
#465 [05:32] <fogWraith> Wug, your penis is on fire
#466 [05:33] <Wug> what? I wasn't scrolling down
#467 [05:33] <fogWraith> Oh
#468 [05:33] <fogWraith> See, he's not ignoring us :P
#469 [05:33] <Wug> I just started not ignoring you again.
#470 [05:33] <aetherian> oho, so he was just posting random things without viewing the response :|
#471 [05:33] <Wug> these werent all in a row, I was picking and choosing
#472 [05:33] <fogWraith> Still, I have no idea whats going on
#473 [05:33] <Wug> they are, however, in order
#474 [05:33] <aetherian> fogWraith: he's talking about some idiot who came in earlier
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#476 [05:34] <aetherian> and he's quoting him, and saying the obvious of what is wrong about what he said
#477 [05:34] <fogWraith> Like the one with Java being racist?
#478 [05:34] <onix> hi, i need help with minecraft
#479 [05:34] <Wug> haven't seen anything that wild
#480 [05:34] <aetherian> onix: welcome to the club
#481 [05:34] <onix> i get "out of memory" errors all the time
#482 [05:34] <onix> thx :)
#483 [05:34] <Wug> anywho, that was him giving 'support' to one person over one thing.
#484 [05:34] <Wug> all of that. thats a LOT of bogus
#485 [05:35] <aetherian> what do you mean by "out of memory" errors?
#486 [05:35] <fogWraith> Sounds like I missed a show... again :(
#487 [05:35] <aetherian> okay wug, somebody was an idiot.
#488 [05:35] <onix> i allready reinstalled the correct java and drivers
#489 [05:35] <onix> and tryed running it with xmx 1024
#490 [05:35] <fogWraith> How much RAM does your computer have, onix ?
#491 [05:35] <onix> 4GB
#492 [05:36] <aetherian> you mean Xmx1024m ?
#493 [05:36] <onix> yes
#494 [05:36] <onix> ^^
#495 [05:36] <fogWraith> Oic, no issues in that department there then... win or linux, or os x?
#496 [05:36] <Wug> out of memory errors - try to use up all of the ram on your computer. physical and virtual. (depending on how much ram you have, this may take a lot of work)
#497 [05:36] <onix> windows..
#498 [05:36] <onix> aem and how do i do
#499 [05:37] <onix> ?
#500 [05:37] <onix> use all the ram?
#501 [05:37] <Wug> on windows (and probably on other OSs) you will get a message box saying 'system is low on memory blah blah blah'
#502 [05:37] <onix> hmm
#503 [05:37] <Wug> it probably won't crash, unless you leave it that way for a long time
#504 [05:37] <Wug> but you won't be able to do anything new
#505 [05:38] <onix> you mean i should try to use as much ram as possible?
#506 [05:38] <Wug> don't do this. it was hypothetical
#507 [05:38] <onix> ah ok :P
#508 [05:38] <fogWraith> Well, just running the minecraft.exe should work with your setup, hopefully
#509 [05:38] <fogWraith> Seeing as you have plenty of ram
#510 [05:38] <fogWraith> Shared graphics?
#511 [05:38] <onix> yes it worked earlyer
#512 [05:38] <onix> shared?
#513 [05:38] <Wug> agreed, you should be able to just run the executable, the default settings should be fine
#514 [05:39] <fogWraith> As, is your graphics integrated with the motherboard
#515 [05:39] <onix> i hjave this problem since some months and buyed some more ram but it still doeasnt work
#516 [05:39] <onix> no
#517 [05:39] <onix> ic have a separated nvidia cart
#518 [05:39] <fogWraith> ah
#519 [05:39] <Wug> the out of memory errors are java issues, right?
#520 [05:40] <onix> yes
#521 [05:40] <Wug> not OS issues?
#522 [05:40] <onix> nono
#523 [05:40] <Wug> ok (so you see them as stack traces)
#524 [05:40] <Wug> whats your minecraft username?
#525 [05:40] <onix> why?
#526 [05:40] <onix> one moment..
#527 [05:40] <Wug> I want to check that you've paid for minecraft.
#528 [05:41] <onix> P_R_O_T_O
#529 [05:41] <onix> ah ^^
#530 [05:41] <onix> yes i did
#531 [05:41] <Wug> !paid P_R_O_T_O
#532 [05:41] <onix> ;D
#533 [05:41] <colbseton> it works ! mcpatcher wasn't update, you right
#534 [05:41] <colbseton> thanks you
#535 [05:41] <onix> it always worked fine but
#536 [05:41] <g> lol, thought it said P_O_T_A_T_O
#537 [05:41] <Wug> no problem
#538 [05:41] <onix> haha ^^
#539 [05:42] <aetherian> taters
#540 [05:42] <Wug> hmm
#541 [05:42] <Wug> try running it with -Xmx2G
#542 [05:42] <onix> it shopuld work, some of my friends are running it without crashes
#543 [05:42] <onix> 2G
#544 [05:42] <Wug> it's not a good solution, but it might help
#545 [05:42] <onix> it doesnt even start then :/
#546 [05:42] <onix> i tryed allredy
#547 [05:43] <Wug> do you have 32 bit java?
#548 [05:43] <onix> everything over 1G doesnt work
#549 [05:43] <Wug> sounds like you do
#550 [05:43] <onix> yews
#551 [05:43] <Wug> you're on a 32 bit os?
#552 [05:43] <onix> yes
#553 [05:43] <Wug> try 1200M
#554 [05:43] <onix> ok..
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#556 [05:43] <Wug> that's the highest I've seen work on 32 bit systems
#557 [05:44] <onix> yes it starts at least
#558 [05:45] <onix> ill write if it crashes again, maybe in five minutes as usual...
#559 [05:45] <onix> thx
#560 [05:45] <Wug> if it crashes, pm me a stack trace.
#561 [05:45] <onix> stack trace is what exectly?
#562 [05:45] <_303> you want him to get Killed for Excess Flood? heh
#563 [05:45] <Wug> the error message it prints
#564 [05:45] <Wug> he'll reconnect if it happens
#565 [05:45] <_303> -> pastebin.com
#566 [05:45] <onix> ok
#567 [05:45] <Wug> (for the record, only the first line is ever important)
#568 [05:46] <onix> the console is closing very fast
#569 [05:46] <Wug> put 'pause' into the bat
#570 [05:47] <onix> ok
#571 [05:47] <onix> oh i just got the error again :/
#572 [05:48] <onix> java -Xmx1200M -Xms1024M -cp Minecraft.jar n et.minecraft.LauncherFrame 16 achievements 146 recipes Setting user: P_R_O_T_O, -6707669923281237153 MCPatcherUtils initialized. Loading: net.java.games.input.DirectAndRawInputEnvironmentPlugin Starting up SoundSystem... Initializing LWJGL OpenAL (The LWJGL binding of OpenA
#573 [05:48] <onix> ups
#574 [05:48] <onix> aem sry ^^
#575 [05:48] <onix> again...
#576 [05:48] <aetherian> the crap
#577 [05:49] <aetherian> that's too many arguments!
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#579 [05:49] <onix> ill paste the error
#580 [05:49] <Wug> put it on its own line
#581 [05:49] <onix> yes
#582 [05:50] <onix> aem at first there is a line ######### GL ERROR #########
#583 [05:50] <onix> @ Post render
#584 [05:50] <onix> 1285: Out of memory
#585 [05:50] <onix> thats the error message
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#587 [05:51] <fogWraith> onix, http://www.pastie.org/
#588 [05:51] <fogWraith> put everything in there and hand us the link :P
#589 [05:51] <onix> ok... :D
#590 [05:51] <fogWraith> Now, I have some... business to attend to
#591 [05:52] * fogWraith rolls up a newspaper and heads off towards the facilities
#591 [05:53] <Wug> that's odd
#592 [05:53] <aetherian> uh
#593 [05:53] <Wug> you've force updated?
#594 [05:53] <aetherian> I do think that
#595 [05:53] <aetherian> I need to go to bed
#596 [05:53] <aetherian> before I fall asleep on my keyboard
#597 [05:53] <Wug> are you falling asleep with your face on the keyboard?
#598 [05:53] <aetherian> heh
#599 [05:53] <Wug> drooling into it and everything
#600 [05:53] <Wug> yuck
#601 [05:53] <aetherian> almost
#602 [05:53] <onix> ok
#603 [05:53] <onix> http://www.pastie.org/1825039
#604 [05:53] <onix> here
#605 [05:53] <aetherian> lazily reading slashdot
#606 [05:54] <aetherian> s'long
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#610 [05:55] <onix> i allready deleted the minecraft. folder (expect my saves) and im currently running without mods
#611 [05:55] <onix> and forced update
#612 [05:56] <Wug> are you using advanced opengl?
#613 [05:56] <Wug> might help to turn it off
#614 [05:56] <onix> yes
#615 [05:56] <onix> ok ill try
#616 [05:56] <Wug> it doesn't make much difference anyway
#617 [05:57] <onix> btw what is it doing?
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#619 [05:57] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] Creeper Nuke! (Anonymous) - Sat, 23 Apr 2011 09:57:21 +0000
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#623 [06:03] <Masterdrake> hello at all . I need help by an MC-Server issue
#624 [06:04] <onix> -.- again blackscreen and crash
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#626 [06:04] <Messer_Nova> a
#627 [06:05] <Masterdrake> I have no crashes but on the server i cant harvest any block
#628 [06:05] * Wug is going to bed in about 5 minutes but fire away
#628 [06:05] <Wug> move away from the spawn.
#629 [06:05] <Wug> problem solved
#630 [06:05] <Messer_Nova> a
#631 [06:05] <Messer_Nova> Argh
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#633 [06:05] <Masterdrake> No i cant nowhere
#634 [06:05] <onix> ^^
#635 [06:06] <onix> you set yourself as admin?
#636 [06:06] <Masterdrake> I cant open Doors too
#637 [06:06] <Wug> are you using bukkit?
#638 [06:06] <Masterdrake> Yes i am OP
#639 [06:06] <_303> are you using the too many items mod?
#640 [06:06] <Masterdrake> I have Bukkit . But i testet it with Vanilla only
#641 [06:06] <onix> any mods or just normal server?
#642 [06:06] <onix> ook
#643 [06:06] <Masterdrake> Yes i have To Many
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#645 [06:07] <_303> and singleplayer commands mod?
#646 [06:07] <Masterdrake> Yes also Single Player Commands
#647 [06:07] <Stronglime> Anyone online willing to help me please?
#648 [06:07] <_303> try reinstalling all mods you might have to the latest versions
#649 [06:07] <_303> the spc bug should be fixed by now
#650 [06:07] <Masterdrake> I have the latest versions
#651 [06:08] <_303> when did you install SPC?
#652 [06:08] <Masterdrake> I have SPC installed Yesterday
#653 [06:08] <Wug> ask #bukkit
#654 [06:08] <Wug> they can probably help better then we can, I hate troubleshooting that thing
#655 [06:08] <Stronglime> I have this problem:Every time i connect ANY server it lags heavyly..but whit the other pc [same shared connection]works perfectly
#656 [06:09] <Masterdrake> The Error is on Vanilla-Server too
#657 [06:09] <Wug> hmm
#658 [06:09] <onix> you are lagging or the others and animals?
#659 [06:09] <_303> then it's a known bug with spc
#660 [06:09] <onix> stronglime?
#661 [06:09] <Stronglime> Im lagging.
#662 [06:09] <Wug> how much lag
#663 [06:09] <Stronglime> I cant even mov
#664 [06:09] <Stronglime> e
#665 [06:09] <Stronglime> mine a single block
#666 [06:09] <Wug> does it get worse over time
#667 [06:09] <Stronglime> No
#668 [06:09] <Wug> wait, you cant move
#669 [06:09] <Stronglime> it disconnects after a bit
#670 [06:09] <Stronglime> i can move
#671 [06:10] <Stronglime> but after like
#672 [06:10] <Stronglime> A lot
#673 [06:10] <Masterdrake> No Lag . Its all fine but no interacting
#674 [06:10] <Wug> turn firewalls off?
#675 [06:10] <Stronglime> if i type a message,it comes out [if it does] after 2,5 mins about
#676 [06:10] <Stronglime> Tried to turn off firewalls,nothing
#677 [06:10] <Wug> masterdrake, its probably an issue with the mod. try without mods
#678 [06:11] <Masterdrake> Okay i try a clen Minecraft.jar . One moment
#679 [06:11] <Stronglime> Well...It started suddently
#680 [06:11] <Stronglime> before it wasent like that
#681 [06:13] <Stronglime> Halp? :|
#682 [06:14] <onix> here my error smg again btw: http://www.pastie.org/1825039
#683 [06:15] <onix> *msg
#684 [06:16] <onix> what really makes me wonder is that it only appears since some weeks/months
#685 [06:16] <onix> befor everything worked perfect
#686 [06:16] <Masterdrake> Okay now i runs perfectly
#687 [06:16] <onix> but it got worse and worse
#688 [06:16] <Masterdrake> Which Mod can it be ?
#689 [06:16] <Masterdrake> I have Too Many , SPC and the HD-Patch
#690 [06:17] <onix> they are afk at the moment...
#691 [06:17] <onix> i thin
#692 [06:17] <onix> k
#693 [06:17] <nipper> onix try deleting the .bin folder and let it redownload.
#694 [06:17] <onix> i allready did
#695 [06:17] <onix> didnt work
#696 [06:17] <Stronglime> Sigh..i knew no one could help me
#697 [06:17] <nipper> Only other thing I can think of is need a new video card with mor memory.
#698 [06:18] <onix> 512 mb currently
#699 [06:18] <onix> hm
#700 [06:18] <onix> but why did it work earlyer
#701 [06:19] <onix> and it slowly got worse
#702 [06:19] <onix> at first i had much texture packs and mods
#703 [06:19] <Stronglime> Maybe is your hardware
#704 [06:19] <Stronglime> or disk space
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#706 [06:19] <onix> even 256*256
#707 [06:19] <Stronglime> Check both
#708 [06:19] <onix> it worked fine
#709 [06:19] <onix> hm
#710 [06:19] <onix> disk space is 10 GB
#711 [06:19] <onix> free
#712 [06:20] <Stronglime> no idea
#713 [06:20] <Stronglime> I just..could post my problem in the forums..
#714 [06:20] <nipper> not a hard drive space issue.
#715 [06:20] <nipper> how much ram does your system have?
#716 [06:20] <onix> and then the problems begun with crashing when riding mo-creatures horses
#717 [06:20] <onix> 4GB
#718 [06:20] <nipper> how much of that is being used?
#719 [06:20] <onix> for minecraft?
#720 [06:20] <onix> or java
#721 [06:21] <nipper> no just on your computer
#722 [06:21] <nipper> have you tried restarting?
#723 [06:21] <onix> ~3,14
#724 [06:21] <onix> restarting what?
#725 [06:21] <onix> pc?
#726 [06:21] <nipper> your system.
#727 [06:21] <onix> i restarted a lot since the last few months :D
#728 [06:22] <onix> i have 32 bit btw
#729 [06:22] <nipper> Well just a try. What about right now.
#730 [06:22] <nipper> I never restart much my self. But sometimes it might help/.
#731 [06:22] <onix> no i dont think so...
#732 [06:22] <Stronglime> So..i lag heavy on every server
#733 [06:22] <onix> the problem got worse over the time
#734 [06:23] <nipper> Well you don't know till you tied.
#735 [06:23] <Stronglime> but it works perfectly on classic
#736 [06:23] <onix> maybe my ram is broken?
#737 [06:23] <Stronglime> No
#738 [06:23] <onix> or one of my ram slots
#739 [06:23] <onix> ok :D
#740 [06:23] <Stronglime> the pc would not work
#741 [06:23] <Stronglime> i mean
#742 [06:23] <nipper> run a test on it.
#743 [06:23] <nipper> maybe even a video card stress test as well.
#744 [06:23] <onix> ok np thx :)
#745 [06:24] <Stronglime> i had a problem of ram once and..
#746 [06:24] <Stronglime> it was really bad
#747 [06:24] <nipper> Stronglime not true. I have had video cards go out when under stress only same with ram.
#748 [06:24] <onix> ok
#749 [06:24] <Stronglime> I didint get what u sayd but..okay?
#750 [06:24] <onix> hm should i make a benchmark?
#751 [06:24] <nipper> But worth a shot. Try running a bentchmark tool
#752 [06:24] <Stronglime> Still can you help me please?
#753 [06:24] <onix> its stressing
#754 [06:24] <_303> <Masterdrake> I have Too Many , SPC and the HD-Patch
#755 [06:24] <onix> isnt it?
#756 [06:25] <onix> ok
#757 [06:25] <nipper> I use 3dmark
#758 [06:25] <_303> Masterdrake: known bug in SPC. use a vanilla jar (or only one with the other mods except SPC) if you want to do SMP, until simo fixes SPC. won't be long
#759 [06:25] <Masterdrake> <_303> And yours is Running good ?
#760 [06:25] <_303> I was quoting you...
#761 [06:25] <_303> so you know what I am talking about
#762 [06:26] <nipper> onix Also when was the last time you updated video drivers and directx?
#763 [06:26] <Masterdrake> The thing with the SPC i understand. Quoting i dont understand . sry i am german
#764 [06:27] <onix> a few days ago
#765 [06:27] <_303> zitieren
#766 [06:27] <onix> i tryed reinstalling them a lot to solve the problem but...
#767 [06:27] <onix> still doesnt work :S
#768 [06:27] <Masterdrake> Oh okay
#769 [06:27] <Masterdrake> thank you
#770 [06:28] <onix> the benchmark is starting soon....
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#772 [06:28] <onix> the programm has 230 MB oO wait one minute have to download :D
#773 [06:29] <Masterdrake> Okay i try now Minecraft with HD and Too Many Items
#774 [06:31] <onix> ill try 3dmark too...
#775 [06:33] <Masterdrake> 303 is the Version 2.8_1 of SPC the SMP -fixxed version ?
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#777 [06:39] <Nizlax> My minecraft keeps crashing while digging - how to fix this ?
#778 [06:39] <_303> Masterdrake: I don't think so
#779 [06:39] <Masterdrake> okay thank you much _303
#780 [06:42] <onix> ok, ill use the 3dmark benchmark and report what happened...
#781 [06:43] <onix> are there settings i have to change?
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#787 [07:26] <Sqozza> How common is rain?
#788 [07:26] <Sqozza> I haven't seen any yet.
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#790 [07:28] <Wug> every 5 or 6 minecraft days or so, on average, i'd say
#791 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> Password recovery has been fixed, thanks mollstam.
#792 [07:30] <onix> thanks again for your halp ;D it still doesnt work, but at least you tryed :D
#793 [07:30] <onix> *help
#794 [07:30] <onix> *tried
#795 [07:30] <onix> ^^
#796 [07:32] <iflema> Sqozza: i think im in the middle of a wet season, rains every 3-4 days.... storms aswell... heh ive even got rain under the water....
#797 [07:33] <Sqozza> lol'd
#798 [07:37] <Nizlax> iflema - its rain every 2nd day on my server atm
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#800 [07:38] <Kxania> Hi.
#801 [07:38] <Sqozza> Hi
#802 [07:38] <Kxania> Can you help me?
#803 [07:39] <Kxania> Can you please try join my server? inforgamtion.dyndns.org
#804 [07:39] <Kxania> !check inforgamtion.dyndns.org
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#806 [07:40] <fogWraith> Kxania, works fine
#807 [07:40] <Kxania> Thanks.
#808 [07:40] <Kxania> Cool, thanks...
#809 [07:40] <fogWraith> Sqozza, snow and thunder seems more common
#810 [07:41] <fogWraith> Seeing as everything is covered in snow and entire forests are gone from thunderhits :|
#811 [07:41] <Sqozza> Bahaha
#812 [07:42] <Sqozza> Let's hope my house doesn't get blown up
#813 [07:42] <Sqozza> :(
#814 [07:42] <fogWraith> As long as its not made from wood, haha
#815 [07:44] <fogWraith> Oh for the love of...
#816 [07:44] <fogWraith> Is it wrong to be humane and snuff out the lifeforce of your neighbours outdoor cats?
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#819 [07:55] <Captain-Lightning> Increasingly so the more often you do it, fogWraith.
#820 [07:55] <luckz> !paid wauholland
#821 [07:57] <fogWraith> Captain-Lightning, these vermin may have worms for all I know, and as soon as I open my door or window, one sneaks in :|
#822 [07:58] <Captain-Lightning> You did kill a domesticated animal.
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#824 [07:58] <Captain-Lightning> There is no escaping that.
#825 [07:58] <fogWraith> I haven't just yet, I'm considering it
#826 [07:58] <fogWraith> Most owners with outdoor cats don't care about them
#827 [07:58] <Captain-Lightning> I wouldn't follow through if I were you.
#828 [07:59] <fogWraith> For instance, now that the snow is melting, I've found 2 cat corpses close to my home
#829 [07:59] <Captain-Lightning> You could have legal repercussions, minus the fact that you are killing what some would consider people.
#830 [07:59] <Captain-Lightning> fogWraith, are you a homicidal cat killer?
#831 [07:59] <fogWraith> Not yet :|
#832 [07:59] <Captain-Lightning> Finding cat corpses around your house...
#833 [07:59] <Captain-Lightning> That's not normal.
#834 [07:59] <fogWraith> I will be if one of these peckers sneak back in and pee / shit in my bed again
#835 [08:00] <Captain-Lightning> Perhaps you should remove the bear traps from your lawn.
#836 [08:00] <fogWraith> I wish I had bear traps on my lawn, that would take care of the noisy children too :P
#837 [08:00] <Captain-Lightning> Forget the children, leave them in retirement homes.
#838 [08:01] <fogWraith> They were out at my neighbours and throwing glass bottles on his paved outdoor place
#839 [08:02] <fogWraith> He's a friendly guy, the children are little shits though
#840 [08:02] <fogWraith> Made them clean up the mess >:|
#841 [08:02] <Captain-Lightning> Recruit your local KKK battalion, round up the kids.
#842 [08:03] <Captain-Lightning> It'd be funnier if you knew I was black.
#843 [08:03] <fogWraith> Are you? :P
#844 [08:03] <Captain-Lightning> I am.
#845 [08:04] <fogWraith> My other neighbour is an arab, makes the best goddamn pizza round these parts
#846 [08:04] <fogWraith> I gots no problems with people from other cultures
#847 [08:05] <Captain-Lightning> All the indian guys I know are jerks, but other than that same.
#848 [08:05] <fogWraith> We have these stray dogs, or ... white trash nazi-wannabes somewhere around here too, but nobody cares about them
#849 [08:05] <fogWraith> My previous boss was indian / muslim, slavedriver :|
#850 [08:06] <fogWraith> Plus, his parents owned a restaurant... and made terrible food, and he made us go there ;P
#851 [08:09] <fogWraith> Which brings me to another topic... WHY WON'T CRAFT TABLES BURN >:|
#852 [08:11] <luckz> !paid AleXusher
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#855 [08:17] <Kxania> !paid Kxania
#856 [08:17] <Kxania> :P
#857 [08:17] <Kxania> Wait, how does it know that?
#858 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> Remote viewing and telepathy.
#859 [08:18] <Kxania> xD
#860 [08:22] <Morrolan> There's a script on minecraft.net which allows you to check wheter someone has paid or not. ;)
#861 [08:22] <Kxania> Ohkey dokey.
#862 [08:28] <fogWraith> What... no.. wait, HOW!
#863 [08:28] * fogWraith overloads
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#886 [10:14] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] Puzzle map JakaCraft (Anonymous) - Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:11:38 +0000
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#888 [10:18] <m0nk> why are blocks reappearing on my local server
#889 [10:18] <m0nk> ?
#890 [10:18] <m0nk> *
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#892 [10:21] <peru_> resurrection blocks
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#895 [10:23] <TheNytangel> m0nk, it is either near spawn, or your having lag, or it doesnt like you
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#897 [10:30] <Ehrehin> crap what is to verifi my pass again
#898 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> /msg nickserv identify password
#899 [10:31] <Ehrehin> thank you
#900 [10:32] <Ehrehin> now I have just set up a new classic server and the map is not flat how do i get it flat?
#901 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Either make one yourself with a map editor, or download one
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#903 [10:33] <Ehrehin> where would I get a flat server mep?
#904 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> The one I give to people that ask for a flat classic map is this
#905 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1340
#906 [10:33] <Ehrehin> map*
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#908 [10:33] <Ehrehin> now how do i get that map to load on the server
#909 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Did you download http://www.mediafire.com/file/wzj0nygngzn/512x512x256 Flat Grass.dat ?
#910 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> The file is now called "512x512x256 Flat Grass.dat", right?
#911 [10:34] <m0nk> go to file that says server. or server config. open that in notepad change worldname
#912 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> You can rename that file now, to.. uh
#913 [10:34] <m0nk> to the map you want
#914 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> world.dat?
#915 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> It's whatever the default map name is, just delete the original, and rename the one you just got to it
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#917 [10:36] <jacobat> Anyone know if I can put a save game in dropbox and use it from multiple computers?
#918 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#919 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Saved_Data_Dropbox_Guide
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#921 [10:37] <jacobat> Excellent, thanks!
#922 [10:37] <DiNoMyTe> Hello, I have a gift code that a friend gave me.. How can I add it to my account?
#923 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> DiNoMyTe - Log into your account at minecraft.net, and you can go here:
#924 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#925 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> To redeem it
#926 [10:38] <DiNoMyTe> Okay, thank you very much
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#928 [10:40] <Ehrehin> okay it is not working
#929 [10:40] <Ehrehin> do what again?
#930 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> Ehrehin - When you run the classic server, what's the world.dat file called?
#931 [10:41] <GreyVulpine> level.dat?
#932 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> it's world, or level, or something .dat
#933 [10:42] <Ehrehin> Server_level.dat
#934 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks, you delete that, and rename the one you just downloaded, to that
#935 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> (be sure the server isn't running when you do that)
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#937 [10:48] <ItsCriminal> hey, i have 1.5 on my server, but it never is snowing, raining,...
#938 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> Just wait, it'll eventually rain/snow.
#939 [10:48] <GreyVulpine> It's all random when it does it
#940 [10:48] <ItsCriminal> so i playied now for good 4hours, :D
#941 [10:49] <ItsCriminal> so i can be lucky and it will come in the next minutes, or unlucky and i have to play for hours more :D
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#943 [10:49] * GreyVulpine nods
#943 [10:49] <Gurkenglas> since the latest update, whenever i try to connect to a server, it says "Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
#944 [10:49] <Gurkenglas> what do?
#945 [10:49] <GreyVulpine> Gurkenglas - Then that server is likely down, or you've been entering the wrong address
#946 [10:50] <ItsCriminal> thx GreyVulpine
#947 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Gurkenglas - Try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net
#948 [10:51] <jacobat> Any pointers on how to locate ore? I seem to be digging for hours and only getting a few pieces of iron from it
#949 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> jacobat - Terrain generation is pretty random, any particular ore you're aiming for?
#950 [10:51] <jacobat> GreyVulpine: So far I've only found iron
#951 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Some ores are more frequent in certain vertical strata
#952 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> er, horizontal
#953 [10:52] <jacobat> GreyVulpine: Yeah, I read the wiki saying that iron is most common below sea level
#954 [10:52] <Gurkenglas> works, thx
#955 [10:52] <m0nk> where is diamond most common?
#956 [10:52] <jacobat> GreyVulpine: Just wondering if it's expected that I have to mine for hours or if I'm missing something
#957 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> m0nk - You can find out for yourself here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Diamond_%28Ore%29
#958 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> jacobat - Nah, you just get lucky
#959 [10:53] <jacobat> I'm amazed when I see people who have build long rollercoasters and stuff, must have taken ages to gather all that ore
#960 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> If you wanted to cheat a bit, there's plenty of "x-ray" mods which can highlight ores for you.
#961 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> For massive constructions, people usually just give themselves the necessarily blocks
#962 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> necessary*
#963 [10:54] <jacobat> Give?
#964 [10:54] * GreyVulpine nods
#964 [10:54] * bokaholic wakes up.
#964 [10:54] <jacobat> With a mod or?
#965 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Single player, has "Single player commands", a mod which gives you commands to cheat, and use '/give' to give yourself blocks
#966 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Or inventory editors, "invedit" is a popular one
#967 [10:55] <eggy> mods/plugins mostly :)
#968 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> In multiplayer, you can use "/give" as an operator/admin command
#969 [10:56] <jacobat> Alright :)
#970 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> Also, there's quite a few map editors out there, which can dramatically decrease the amount you need to take to place blocks.
#971 [10:56] <jimmybrite> don't use /give, it's too much work, just do /i
#972 [10:56] <jimmybrite> with SPC I mean
#973 [10:57] <SinZ> or just i
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#976 [11:08] <jimmybrite> true
#977 [11:08] <jimmybrite> I forgot
#978 [11:08] <jimmybrite> I didnt install spc on 1.5 yet, so I dunno
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#981 [11:11] <Hiukuss> Hello....?
#982 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#984 [11:11] <jimmybrite> Howdy stranger
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#986 [11:11] <Hiukuss> Umm, I joined the IRC to submit bugs but...I am just confused :I
#987 [11:11] <Ehrehin> I have more questions
#988 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Hiukuss - If you want to submit bug reports, just use http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#989 [11:12] <jimmybrite> I doubt anyone from mojang is here
#990 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Ehrehin - Shoot.
#991 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> jimmybrite - There is.
#992 [11:12] <Hiukuss> Thanks Grey :)
#993 [11:12] <Ehrehin> how do i get multiple map fo say builder and guest and the rest?
#994 [11:12] <jimmybrite> yeah well, they wont care about bug reports anyhow
#995 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Ehrehin - I'm sorry?
#996 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> jimmybrite - They do
#997 [11:13] <jimmybrite> Id send my bug reports to their official support site or the forums
#998 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> They don't look at the forums anymore
#999 [11:13] <jimmybrite> They care about bug reports on irc? that's odd
#1000 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> The official support site IS getsatisfaction
#1001 [11:13] <jimmybrite> that I know, believe you me
#1002 [11:13] <jimmybrite> yup, I know
#1003 [11:14] <jimmybrite> when you go on the old one it redirects you to getsatisfaction
#1004 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> jimmybrite - And some mojang staff hang out on IRC from time to time as well
#1005 [11:14] <Ehrehin> ok a rephrase I have seen servers with multiple maps for different ranks
#1006 [11:14] <Ehrehin> how do i get that
#1007 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> Ehrehin - Most likely using a modded classic server then
#1008 [11:14] <Ehrehin> ?
#1009 [11:14] <Ehrehin> more work
#1010 [11:15] <jimmybrite> yeah but come on, this is irc, it's not like ther's gonna be a bug list anywhere
#1011 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> Ehrehin - Yeah, you can see a list of custom classic server files here:
#1012 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Custom_server#Classic
#1013 [11:15] <Ehrehin> next question is how do i get the user and op commands to work
#1014 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Ehrehin - Depends on whether you're running the vanilla classic server, or a modded one
#1015 [11:17] <Ehrehin> ?
#1016 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> jimmybrite - No, but if you ask any of the helpers here, you stand a better chance of getting an answer than venturing the support forums.
#1017 [11:17] <Ehrehin> explane
#1018 [11:17] <eggy> is it common to have time out exceptions be thrown (running 1.5) - at times it takes me three or four times to connect to my server
#1019 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> Ehrehin - Many custom servers have more commands to them, more permissions, more features.
#1020 [11:17] <jimmybrite> THat's true, especially with all the kiddos on the forums
#1021 [11:17] <Ehrehin> ok mine is new just basic
#1022 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> jimmybrite - Also, we do get the occasional ear of a mojang staff member here on IRC. You don't see that on the forums anymore
#1023 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> Ehrehin - Then, you can use "op playername" in the server's console to give them access to admin commands
#1024 [11:18] <jimmybrite> GreyVulpine I can see why, all it is, is whining
#1025 [11:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#1025 [11:19] <eggy> yea - that's why I avoid irc :|
#1026 [11:19] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1026 [11:19] <eggy> haha
#1027 [11:20] <jimmybrite> I try to avoid it too, I got way too many things eating up my time as it is, and I dont have a irc program setup like I used to, I do have pidgin tho...
#1028 [11:20] <Hiukuss> That messenger that combines like 5 messengers?
#1029 [11:20] <jimmybrite> ya
#1030 [11:20] <Hiukuss> I mean The*
#1031 [11:20] <jimmybrite> and facebook and irc
#1032 [11:20] <Hiukuss> I hate pidgin.
#1033 [11:20] <jimmybrite> I like it, a lot
#1034 [11:21] <eggy> anywho.. back to figuring out the server
#1035 [11:21] <jimmybrite> I HATE Windows live
#1036 [11:21] <jimmybrite> you have the right to
#1037 [11:21] <jimmybrite> it aint perfect
#1038 [11:21] <jimmybrite> but it's better than windows live
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#1040 [11:22] <jimmybrite> When I boot into ubuntu I use empathy sometimes
#1041 [11:27] <jimmybrite> wow no espernet servers in canada, its WAY down there in the south.
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#1045 [11:31] <jimmybrite> Myeah, I prefer xchat to pidgin for irc
#1046 [11:31] <Kxania> Mibbit ftw.
#1047 [11:32] <jimmybrite> I hate mibbit, I was on there 2 mins ago
#1048 [11:32] <jimmybrite> I keep losing tabs
#1049 [11:32] <jimmybrite> that may be my adblock tho, lol
#1050 [11:32] <jimmybrite> well hate is a strong word, I dont hate it
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#1052 [11:33] <mib_v9je02> moiu
#1053 [11:33] <jimmybrite> Quoi ca toi?
#1054 [11:33] <jimmybrite> Anyone here on a mac? with hd3000?
#1055 [11:34] <Gurkenglas> GreyVulpine, does that server have mods?
#1056 [11:35] * Kxania wonders what server Gurk is talking about.
#1056 [11:35] <Kxania> XD
#1057 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> Gurkenglas - I don't know, probably a question for Shadow386. It's his server
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#1059 [11:36] <slimer> Hello?
#1060 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1061 [11:36] <Kxania> Hi there.
#1062 [11:36] <slimer> Can someone try to get on my Bukkit Server
#1063 [11:36] <Gurkenglas> high-low
#1064 [11:36] <slimer> i just want 2 make sure
#1065 [11:36] <Kxania> What's the IP?
#1066 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> 71.226.122.165?
#1067 [11:36] <slimer> no
#1068 [11:37] <slimer> noah247surive.dyndns.org:25510
#1069 [11:37] <Kxania> !check noah247surive.dyndns.org:25510
#1070 [11:37] <slimer> hold on
#1071 [11:37] <slimer> !check noah247survive.dyndns.org:25510
#1072 [11:37] <slimer> ok
#1073 [11:38] <slimer> i just want 2 make sure people can get on
#1074 [11:38] <slimer> last time there was a premissions error
#1075 [11:38] <slimer> i think i fixed it
#1076 [11:38] <Kxania> I can't actually join.
#1077 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> I can join
#1078 [11:38] <slimer> sure
#1079 [11:39] <Kxania> Forgot about the different port number xD
#1080 [11:39] <slimer> did u try?
#1081 [11:39] <jimmybrite> I couldn't get my bukkit working the other day, my router was being a bitch, everything was fine 2 weeks ago.
#1082 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> I was able to join
#1083 [11:39] <slimer> ok
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#1085 [11:55] <m0nk> starting minecraft and then the windows just closes after mojang thin
#1086 [11:55] <m0nk> g*
#1087 [11:57] <m0nk> logo*
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#1089 [12:00] <Ehrehin> my dang MCLawl wont let me set a server name it keeps going to default
#1090 [12:01] <Ehrehin> any sugestions?
#1091 [12:02] <m0nk> deleted the bin folder redownloaded minecraft.exe started it logged in and the window just closes after mojang logo
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#1096 [12:12] <m0nk> any suggestions
#1097 [12:12] <m0nk> ?*
#1098 [12:13] <Kxania> completely delete all minecraft files
#1099 [12:14] <Kxania> and re download it.
#1100 [12:14] <Kxania> make sure you back up your saves.
#1101 [12:15] <m0nk> was the hd texture pack patcher's fault
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#1104 [12:16] <Kxania> Oh.. k
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#1110 [12:23] <jimmybrite> I guess so
#1111 [12:24] <jimmybrite> jcamilowps: uninstall everything, but first obviously keep your saves folder
#1112 [12:24] <jimmybrite> oops
#1113 [12:24] <jimmybrite> m0nk: uninstall everything, but first obviously keep your saves folder
#1114 [12:24] <jimmybrite> I fail at copy paste in pidgin
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#1118 [12:32] <VoxelHead> Day 329 09:34 AM: Big Brother has given the housemates 26 lavas and challenged them to build a client.
#1119 [12:33] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: you sure about that?
#1120 [12:33] <VoxelHead> rushworld
#1121 [12:33] <NotiCon> that be a yes then?
#1122 [12:34] <Morrolan> Euh, what exactly did Voxel parse here?
#1123 [12:34] <Morrolan> Or rather, is there a reference I don't get? ^^
#1124 [12:35] <NotiCon> VoxelHead you will probs never get
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#1126 [12:35] <Morrolan> I guess so.
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#1129 [12:36] <SilentHero25> Anyone Alive?
#1130 [12:36] <Morrolan> Yep
#1131 [12:36] <SilentHero25> Thank God >_>
#1132 [12:36] <SilentHero25> Do you handle help regarding SNP?
#1133 [12:37] <SilentHero25> #smp seems to be out of it.
#1134 [12:37] <SilentHero25> SMP*
#1135 [12:37] <Morrolan> Yea, we're here for issues with Minecraft.
#1136 [12:37] <Morrolan> SIngleplayer and Multiplayer
#1137 [12:38] <SilentHero25> Thank God.
#1138 [12:38] <SilentHero25> Ok
#1139 [12:38] <SilentHero25> Does it cost anything to host a server?
#1140 [12:38] <m0nk> lol my friend did a ipconfig /renew thing and he took over the ip i had the minecrfat server on
#1141 [12:38] <m0nk> minecraft*
#1142 [12:38] <NotiCon> only the cost of keep the server running
#1143 [12:39] <SilentHero25> What do you need to keep the server running?
#1144 [12:39] <Morrolan> ?? requirements/lessrude
#1145 [12:39] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#1146 [12:39] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#1147 [12:40] <Morrolan> About 100 Kb/s upload for each player I'd say.
#1148 [12:40] <SilentHero25> This is only for 2 players.
#1149 [12:40] <Morrolan> Yea, then you should be perfectly fine with hosting it on your home PC:
#1150 [12:40] <Morrolan> .*
#1151 [12:40] <SilentHero25> No costs at all then?
#1152 [12:40] <Morrolan> Nope.
#1153 [12:41] <SilentHero25> k.
#1154 [12:41] <SilentHero25> Would a alternative route be rent one?
#1155 [12:41] <SilentHero25> or?
#1156 [12:41] <SilentHero25> Is it against MC rules?
#1157 [12:41] <Morrolan> Well, you can rent a VPS or dedicated server and set up the server software, but that won't be cheap.
#1158 [12:42] <jimmybrite> SOme isp have draconian practices
#1159 [12:42] <SilentHero25> Draconian?
#1160 [12:42] <Kxania> xD
#1161 [12:42] <Morrolan> Hard, harsh,
#1162 [12:42] <SilentHero25> Oh.
#1163 [12:43] <jimmybrite> yeah
#1164 [12:43] <Morrolan> If you're looking for a server hoster you can check out, for example, allgamer.net or multiplay.co.uk . Or just google for "minecraft hosting" .
#1165 [12:43] <jimmybrite> you'd think that where I live I could get good bandwith at a good price, but no not really
#1166 [12:43] <jimmybrite> 15mbit down only 1.5 up
#1167 [12:43] <jimmybrite> if I get the 30 mbit, it's only 2mb up
#1168 [12:43] <SilentHero25> Yu
#1169 [12:44] <SilentHero25> Ty
#1170 [12:44] <Morrolan> But again, for a two player server your home PC should be perfectly fine.
#1171 [12:44] <jimmybrite> when I make a bukkit server, I leave it a 4 player max, because after that it lags
#1172 [12:46] <TheNytangel> :o
#1173 [12:46] <VoxelHead> well i'll be a monkey's uncle
#1174 [12:46] <TheNytangel> there should be spinning minecart tracks
#1175 [12:46] <TheNytangel> like those train tracks that spin you around to go the other way
#1176 [12:47] <m0nk> ok so i deleted the whole minecraft folder saved the saves folder and redownloaded it. but the furnace wont work
#1177 [12:47] <Morrolan> Hmm? Your furnace isn't working? Oo
#1178 [12:47] <m0nk> no
#1179 [12:48] <TheNytangel> too bad so sad
#1180 [12:48] <TheNytangel> lol jk
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#1184 [12:50] <m0nk> crafting table works but not the furnace
#1185 [12:50] <Morrolan> Well, what happens if you put something in it? Just nothing at all?
#1186 [12:51] <Morrolan> Oh, and you ARE putting the fuel in the lower and the thing which you want to smelt in the upper slot?
#1187 [12:51] <m0nk> i tried to smelt some iron but the flames wouldnt show. and i waited for as long as it take a iron to smelt too but no finished product
#1188 [12:51] <m0nk> so yes
#1189 [12:51] <SilentHero25> Coal in bottom
#1190 [12:51] <SilentHero25> Iron in topp!
#1191 [12:51] <SilentHero25> ?
#1192 [12:51] <m0nk> i know
#1193 [12:52] <SilentHero25> Maybe your save/file is corrupted or s/t
#1194 [12:52] <m0nk> s/T?
#1195 [12:52] <m0nk> t*
#1196 [12:52] <Morrolan> m0nk: Mutliplayer or Singleplayer, does it work in a new world?
#1197 [12:52] <Morrolan> something*
#1198 [12:52] <m0nk> wait a sec
#1199 [12:55] <m0nk> doesnt work in single player either
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#1202 [12:56] <Morrolan> Did you try it in a new world? If yes then something is really fishy, especially since you've deleted the bin folder. :/
#1203 [12:58] <m0nk> seriously when you type in a new world and you want trees. dont type 12345 in the seed. its a desert and cactus world
#1204 [12:58] <m0nk> nvm. found trees
#1205 [12:58] <SilentHero25> ^ You don't have to seed your worlds at all O.o
#1206 [12:58] <m0nk> they dont work like that?
#1207 [12:59] <Morrolan> If you don't parse one one will be generated for you.
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#1209 [13:01] <Gurkenglas> can you suggest me a nonwhitelist (or one that will whitelist me without any further forum stuff, you know), nonpay, nonlag ton-of-plugins-server?
#1210 [13:02] <Morrolan> ?? smp/servers
#1211 [13:02] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1212 [13:02] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1213 [13:02] <Morrolan> mcserverlist.net has the possibility of using filters.
#1214 [13:02] <Morrolan> Don't know about the others.
#1215 [13:02] <Gurkenglas> i tried mcserverlist.net
#1216 [13:03] <Gurkenglas> mods, nonwhitlist, nonpay gives me a list of which i tried 6 server out
#1217 [13:03] <Gurkenglas> and each one gave me "Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
#1218 [13:03] <Morrolan> Yea, that's cause they're not udpated yet I guess.
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#1220 [13:04] <Morrolan> I assume you're already on 1.5? Cause most servers are still at 1.4
#1221 [13:04] <Gurkenglas> the update came out 4 days ago whats wrong with those Oo
#1222 [13:04] <Morrolan> Bukkit, the most popular server mod, is not stable yet.
#1223 [13:04] <Gurkenglas> also, it didnt ask me if i want to update
#1224 [13:04] <Morrolan> You should download the new launcher then.
#1225 [13:04] <Gurkenglas> will it be on 1.4?
#1226 [13:04] <m0nk> works on a new world
#1227 [13:05] <Morrolan> Gurkenglas: Nope, but you will be able to choose wheter you want to update or not in the future then.
#1228 [13:05] <Gurkenglas> (wasnt hmod the most popular mod?)
#1229 [13:05] <Morrolan> Yea, it was.
#1230 [13:06] <Morrolan> Isn't undera active development anymroe though.
#1231 [13:06] <Morrolan> anymore*
#1232 [13:06] <Morrolan> So most people switched over to bukkit.
#1233 [13:07] <m0nk> how can i make the other saves work?
#1234 [13:08] <Morrolan> m0nk: No idea.
#1235 [13:09] <m0nk> lol i cut pasted the one smp map onto the saves folder in minecraft folder and i spawned in the ground. do you think i could do that with all and then save then port back to smp again?
#1236 [13:09] <Morrolan> There is a tool which should be able to fix savegames, maybe it can fix this issue as well, wait a second.
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#1238 [13:10] <Morrolan> m0nk: Try this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=154532&start=30
#1239 [13:10] <Morrolan> Is worth a try I guess.
#1240 [13:11] <m0nk> it worked when i loaded it as a sp map then jumped off the inside of the ground then saved and opened it as a smp again
#1241 [13:11] <Morrolan> Ok, even better then. :D
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#1243 [13:19] <m0nk> when you put in a seed in new world thing. does it create a map accordingly to that seed. not just a random world?
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#1245 [13:20] <Morrolan> If you put one in it does create it according to the seed, yes.
#1246 [13:21] <Morrolan> And if you don't put in a seed it will generate a random seed for you which it'll use.
#1247 [13:21] <m0nk> so if you want lots of trees and dirt and wood. whats the seed for it? i'm guessing there isn't one, right?
#1248 [13:21] <Morrolan> There is no way of predicting what each seed will create.
#1249 [13:21] <VoxelHead> welcome back
#1250 [13:22] <Morrolan> 12345 will generate a completely different world from 12346 for example.
#1251 [13:22] <g> Ohai
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#1255 [13:29] <Morrolan> ?? index
#1256 [13:29] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1257 [13:29] <g> Refactoring McPlusPlus in C++ will be the death of me
#1258 [13:29] <g> I'm using libircclit-qt
#1259 [13:29] <g> which is a wrapper for libircclient
#1260 [13:29] <g> and now I have to write a damn wrapper for it
#1261 [13:29] <g> So I'm writting a wrapper for a wrapper >.>
#1262 [13:30] <Morrolan> Well, you'll certainly learn a lot while buildling it. :D
#1263 [13:30] <g> True that
#1264 [13:30] <g> but
#1265 [13:30] <g> I'd have been able to avoid it
#1266 [13:30] <g> if they passed only one more string
#1267 [13:30] <g> But no, it has to be complicated >.>
#1268 [13:30] <Morrolan> Oh, that's rather... annoying.
#1269 [13:30] * g shrugs
#1269 [13:30] <g> It does work though
#1270 [13:31] <g> I'll give them that
#1271 [13:31] <g> inb4gtestbot
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#1273 [13:31] <gTestBot> Hello, sexy people.
#1274 [13:31] <Morrolan> Actually, what is McPlusPlus here for? What functions does he provide?
#1275 [13:31] <g> Try ~help
#1276 [13:31] <g> Well, basically
#1277 [13:31] * bokaholic - Sexay.
#1277 [13:31] <g> it parses RSS and ATOm feeds
#1278 [13:31] <g> ATOM*
#1279 [13:31] * g jumps on bokaholic
#1279 [13:32] * bokaholic topples!
#1279 [13:32] <Morrolan> Ah, so he's the guy who used to spam with old blog entries?
#1280 [13:32] <g> That's its primary function
#1281 [13:32] <g> Oh, you remember NotchBot?
#1282 [13:32] <g> :P
#1283 [13:32] <g> Yeah that was me too
#1284 [13:32] * bokaholic searches for a 2nd job. Muttering.
#1284 [13:32] <g> Other stuff he does,
#1285 [13:32] <g> ~title
#1286 [13:32] <McPlusPlus> "None" (http://is.gd/QCpAfy)
#1287 [13:32] <g> well
#1288 [13:32] <g> that has no title
#1289 [13:32] <g> but
#1290 [13:32] <g> It also has a URL shortener
#1291 [13:32] <g> with ~shorten but that isn't too useful on its own
#1292 [13:33] <g> it's also a dictionary
#1293 [13:33] <Morrolan> Ah, ok, so for non-minecraft related stuff.
#1294 [13:33] <g> ~dict chocolate 1
#1295 [13:33] <McPlusPlus> "chocolate": A food made from ground roasted cocoa beans.
#1296 [13:33] <Morrolan> the !wiki is handled by GreyBot though, right?
#1297 [13:33] <g> That's pretty much it, so far
#1298 [13:33] <g> I dunno, I guess so
#1299 [13:33] <g> !wiki chocolare
#1300 [13:33] <Morrolan> !wiki chocolte
#1301 [13:33] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate
#1302 [13:33] <GreyBot> Chocolate (i /ˈtʃɒklɪt/ or /ˈtʃɒkəlɪt/) is a raw or processed food produced from the seed of the tropical Theobroma cacao tree. Cacao has been cultivated for at least three millennia in Mexico, Central and South America, with its earliest documented use around 1100 BC. The majority of the Mesoamerican people made chocolate beverages, including the Aztecs, who made it into a
#1303 [13:33] <GreyBot> beverage known as
#1304 [13:33] <GreyBot> xocolātl (/ʃo.ko.laːtɬ/), a Nahuatl word meaning "bitter water". The seeds of the cacao tree have an intense bitter taste, and must be fermented to develop the flavor.
#1305 [13:33] <VoxelHead> !wiki chocolare... !wocolare
#1306 [13:33] <Morrolan> Yep
#1307 [13:33] <GreyBot> Wikipedia No Match
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#1309 [13:34] <g> lol
#1310 [13:34] <g> spammy
#1311 [13:34] <Morrolan> And both of us typed it wrong. XD
#1312 [13:34] <g> xD
#1313 [13:34] <g> It got what yours was though
#1314 [13:34] <g> redirects ftw
#1315 [13:34] * g tries to think of what else it does
#1315 [13:34] <thig> would you say the Lenovo K330 is a hi-tech computer?
#1316 [13:34] <g> Well it can do page title parsing automatically to
#1317 [13:34] <g> I just have it disabled
#1318 [13:34] <g> ~speak
#1319 [13:34] <g> https://bitbucket.org
#1320 [13:35] <McPlusPlus> "Free source code hosting – Bitbucket" at bitbucket.org
#1321 [13:35] <g> ~stfu
#1322 [13:35] <thig> me?
#1323 [13:35] <g> Not you
#1324 [13:35] <thig> ok
#1325 [13:35] <g> :P
#1326 [13:35] <g> I have no idea
#1327 [13:35] <g> Specs would be useful
#1328 [13:35] <thig> uuuhh...specs?
#1329 [13:36] <g> specifications
#1330 [13:36] * g facedesks
#1330 [13:36] <bokaholic> :o
#1331 [13:36] <thig> um hang on
#1332 [13:36] <VoxelHead> egad!
#1333 [13:36] <g> Ye, bokaholic?
#1334 [13:36] <g> :P
#1335 [13:36] <g> Yes*
#1336 [13:37] <bokaholic> Facedesking hurts ;.;
#1337 [13:37] * g shrugs
#1337 [13:37] <g> you get used to it
#1338 [13:37] * bokaholic rubs a bump on her head. "I hope so.."
#1338 [13:37] <g> :P
#1339 [13:37] <g> hmm
#1340 [13:37] * g wonders what the general age of this channel is
#1340 [13:37] <g> Let's do a poll! :D
#1341 [13:38] <bokaholic> You never ask a lady her age!
#1342 [13:38] * bokaholic shakefist.
#1342 [13:38] <g> :P
#1343 [13:38] <g> Yes I do
#1344 [13:38] <g> lol
#1345 [13:38] <bokaholic> Oh, well. I'm 27
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#1348 [13:38] <g> They don't have to answ- okay :P
#1349 [13:38] <Oogabooga> hey
#1350 [13:38] <g> <- 18
#1351 [13:38] <bokaholic> Haha
#1352 [13:38] <Oogabooga> can anyone help me please?
#1353 [13:38] <g> Sup Oogabooga
#1354 [13:38] <VoxelHead> GIR, your waffles have sickened me! FETCH ME THE BUCKET!
#1355 [13:38] <bokaholic> Oh man.. KIDS!
#1356 [13:38] <g> ?? ask
#1357 [13:38] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1358 [13:38] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1359 [13:38] <g> bokaholic: lol
#1360 [13:38] <Oogabooga> Sorry voxel.
#1361 [13:38] <VoxelHead> That's ok then. I suppose. Don't think this makes me like you again "though" Oogabooga
#1362 [13:38] <g> I'm legally an adult :P
#1363 [13:38] <Oogabooga> Uhm I want to play online minecraft with a friend
#1364 [13:38] <g> vox, shut up
#1365 [13:38] <bokaholic> lol
#1366 [13:38] <Oogabooga> a survival mode
#1367 [13:39] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#1368 [13:39] <g> Oogabooga: What are your ingame names?
#1369 [13:39] <Oogabooga> How can I plat on a new world with him?
#1370 [13:39] <g> Well
#1371 [13:39] <g> who owns the server?
#1372 [13:39] <Oogabooga> What server w want to start one
#1373 [13:39] <g> First of all
#1374 [13:39] <g> What are your ingame names?
#1375 [13:40] <Oogabooga> deathtocal
#1376 [13:40] <Oogabooga> and
#1377 [13:40] <Oogabooga> insanemanic
#1378 [13:40] <g> !paid deathtocal
#1379 [13:40] <g> !paid insanemanic
#1380 [13:40] * g pokes AuBot
#1380 [13:40] <Oogabooga> !paid insanemanic
#1381 [13:40] * g slaps AuBot around a bit with a large trout.
#1381 [13:40] <Oogabooga> does it say I have paid?
#1382 [13:40] <g> Give it a min
#1383 [13:40] <g> throttling
#1384 [13:40] <g> !paid insanemanic
#1385 [13:40] <g> OK, well
#1386 [13:41] <g> First of all, your friend needs a copy of the game
#1387 [13:41] <g> After that,
#1388 [13:41] <g> (One second)
#1389 [13:41] <Oogabooga> He paid for it though.
#1390 [13:41] <g> ?? index
#1391 [13:41] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1392 [13:41] <Oogabooga> He was on a server with me..
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#1394 [13:41] <Oogabooga> He was on a big serveer with like 20 people with me
#1395 [13:41] <g> !server
#1396 [13:41] <Oogabooga> I downloaded both of those
#1397 [13:41] <g> there's a file called server.properties
#1398 [13:41] <g> Edit that in notepad or something
#1399 [13:41] <thig> it has a 1tb of hard disk drive storage,nvidia geforce graphics,2nd generation intel core i5 processor,and windows 7
#1400 [13:42] <Oogabooga> Why do you mean?
#1401 [13:42] <Oogabooga> What*
#1402 [13:42] <g> Oogabooga: Open server.properties in notepad
#1403 [13:42] <g> edit the world option
#1404 [13:42] <Oogabooga> Wait slow down
#1405 [13:42] <Oogabooga> I ran the java thing
#1406 [13:42] <g> It's in the same folder as whatever you ran
#1407 [13:42] <Oogabooga> and it just wrirtes a bunch of things
#1408 [13:42] <g> Well
#1409 [13:42] <thig> g
#1410 [13:42] <g> it makes a new world for you at that point
#1411 [13:43] <g> thig: Not too bad
#1412 [13:43] <Oogabooga> and how can I connect to siad world?
#1413 [13:43] <g> It's not "powerful", thig, but it's pretty acceptable
#1414 [13:43] <thig> not too bad?i thought it was awesome
#1415 [13:43] <g> Oogabooga: You need your IP
#1416 [13:43] <Oogabooga> wait g can you make me a world please and give us the ip to connect to it please?
#1417 [13:43] <g> And you need to forward the port
#1418 [13:43] <g> No
#1419 [13:43] <Oogabooga> he doesn't live with me though its okay?
#1420 [13:43] <g> I'm not hosting a server for you
#1421 [13:43] <Oogabooga> Sorry I just am so confused.
#1422 [13:44] <bokaholic> It's easy, really.
#1423 [13:44] <g> Then listen to what I'm saying
#1424 [13:44] <g> Mm
#1425 [13:44] <g> Forward port 25565 on your router
#1426 [13:44] <bokaholic> Just don't overcomplicate it with the brain thoughts. :V
#1427 [13:44] <Oogabooga> I am i'm only 13 dude.
#1428 [13:44] <g> I've worked with ten-year-olds
#1429 [13:44] <g> :P
#1430 [13:44] <Oogabooga> question mark?
#1431 [13:44] <Oogabooga> Wait
#1432 [13:44] <Oogabooga> lets start over
#1433 [13:44] <Oogabooga> I ran the java thing
#1434 [13:44] <g> yes
#1435 [13:44] <g> and?
#1436 [13:44] <thig> im 12
#1437 [13:44] <Oogabooga> it has a bucnh of numbers
#1438 [13:44] <Oogabooga> and letters
#1439 [13:44] <Oogabooga> going down
#1440 [13:45] <g> well yeah
#1441 [13:45] <bokaholic> thig: D:
#1442 [13:45] <Oogabooga> Called minecraft server
#1443 [13:45] <g> and you didn't read them?
#1444 [13:45] <Oogabooga> How can I read them/?
#1445 [13:45] <g> With your eyes?
#1446 [13:45] <g> >.>
#1447 [13:45] * w snuggles his fellow member of the alphabet
#1447 [13:45] <Oogabooga> it says at kb soruce
#1448 [13:45] <Oogabooga> and other crap
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#1450 [13:45] <g> Pastebin it
#1451 [13:45] <g> ?? pastebin
#1452 [13:45] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#1453 [13:45] <VoxelHead> pastebin: These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#1454 [13:45] <thig> what?bad for me because of stalkers?what are these people gonna do to my house,hack my computer?
#1455 [13:45] <g> thig: Shush a second
#1456 [13:46] <thig> k
#1457 [13:46] <g> I'll get to you in due course :P
#1458 [13:46] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1459 [13:46] <g> or bokaholic can help you
#1460 [13:46] <g> :3
#1461 [13:46] <thig> ya youre pretty busy g
#1462 [13:46] <Oogabooga> g can you view my computer with team veiwer?
#1463 [13:46] <g> Oogabooga: Is that really neces- Oh, fine
#1464 [13:46] <g> PM me your ID and password
#1465 [13:46] <thig> yeamviewer is helpful yet scary
#1466 [13:46] <g> (/msg g messagE)
#1467 [13:46] <thig> ill shut up now
#1468 [13:47] <g> thig: It's a pretty useful tool
#1469 [13:47] <bokaholic> What's happening? What about me?
#1470 [13:47] <g> and it's designed for support, so
#1471 [13:47] <thig> i know ive used it
#1472 [13:47] <g> bokaholic: Can you help thig out please? :P
#1473 [13:47] <bokaholic> Mebbe. With what?
#1474 [13:47] <thig> nothing really.maybe ideas for raising money
#1475 [13:48] <bokaholic> Oh dear. I'm applying for a 2nd job. :O Maybe get a 2nd job? :D
#1476 [13:48] <g> lol
#1477 [13:48] <thig> so i can buy that 850.00 dollar computer
#1478 [13:48] <bokaholic> Or.. Drawing for money works well for many Iknow.
#1479 [13:48] <bokaholic> :O
#1480 [13:48] <g> bokaholic: I had a good summer job last summer
#1481 [13:48] <VoxelHead> S to the H O C K I N G
#1482 [13:48] <g> Programming for like €12.50/h
#1483 [13:48] <Oogabooga> ofc t.v isnt working
#1484 [13:48] <thig> im only 12
#1485 [13:48] <g> vox, shut up
#1486 [13:48] <bokaholic> Oh! Oh.. Uhm.. Hmm.
#1487 [13:48] <VoxelHead> hai!
#1488 [13:48] <g> Oogabooga: I need your ID and password
#1489 [13:48] <bokaholic> Can 12 year olds donate plasma?
#1490 [13:48] <Oogabooga> its not loading
#1491 [13:48] <Oogabooga> hold on
#1492 [13:49] <thig> lol
#1493 [13:49] <g> ~dpeak
#1494 [13:49] <g> fail
#1495 [13:49] <g> ~speak
#1496 [13:49] <Oogabooga> kk i got it
#1497 [13:49] <g> http://teamviewer.com
#1498 [13:49] <McPlusPlus> "TeamViewer - Free Remote Access and Remote Desktop Sharing over the Internet" at teamviewer.com
#1499 [13:49] <g> ohk
#1500 [13:49] <Oogabooga> nvm
#1501 [13:49] <thig> what does that mean?
#1502 [13:49] <bokaholic> Sell things on Craigslist?
#1503 [13:49] <g> ~stfu
#1504 [13:49] <Oogabooga> it doesnt
#1505 [13:49] <Oogabooga> load
#1506 [13:49] <Oogabooga> g
#1507 [13:49] * g facedesks again
#1507 [13:49] <g> bokaholic: Program stuff!
#1508 [13:49] <g> :P
#1509 [13:49] <thig> IM 12
#1510 [13:49] <bokaholic> Plasma is a donation of your fluids. Kind of like giving blood. But they take the plasma out of the blood and fill you up with ... :I
#1511 [13:50] <bokaholic> I get that, sir >:I
#1512 [13:50] <thig> well,i could sell stuff on ebay but i dont have much i want to sell
#1513 [13:50] <g> Do you know how?
#1514 [13:50] <bokaholic> Hmm. Do chores? Mow lawns? Walk dogs? Babysit?
#1515 [13:50] <g> How to program :P
#1516 [13:50] <bokaholic> Oh. Uhm. Not too much, no.
#1517 [13:50] <thig> can i babysit?
#1518 [13:50] <g> Want to learn?
#1519 [13:51] <bokaholic> Know more about that in 1998-2002. D8
#1520 [13:51] <bokaholic> Sure!
#1521 [13:51] <g> Give me a minute to sort this guy out then
#1522 [13:51] * bokaholic makes computing noises.
#1522 [13:51] <g> lol
#1523 [13:51] <thig> i thought you had to be 13 to babysit
#1524 [13:51] <bokaholic> I don't think there's a law, really.
#1525 [13:51] <g> thig: Countries
#1526 [13:52] <g> Laws differ
#1527 [13:52] <thig> america
#1528 [13:52] <g> State?
#1529 [13:52] * genshou [genshou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1530 [13:52] <thig> oregon
#1531 [13:52] <g> sec
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#1534 [13:52] <ooga> g
#1535 [13:52] <ooga> i dced
#1536 [13:52] <bokaholic> Paper route and mowing laws is what I would suggest. :)
#1537 [13:52] <bokaholic> It'll make ya buff, too.
#1538 [13:52] <bokaholic> Not that a 12 year old should be buff D8
#1539 [13:52] <g> thig: I quote from a website:
#1540 [13:52] <g> "As you can see, there may not be a definitive age for babysitting or for being left alone, but more a matter of training, maturity, and other factors."
#1541 [13:53] <thig> jeez,giving out a lot of information here
#1542 [13:53] <thig> on where i live
#1543 [13:53] <thig> and stuff
#1544 [13:54] <bokaholic> I see 12 year olds putting ads on CL for walking dogs and pet sitting a lot around here.
#1545 [13:54] <bokaholic> I always think about stealing their idea.
#1546 [13:54] <thig> whats cl?
#1547 [13:54] <bokaholic> And being all 'BUT I'M 27! FAR MORE MATURE!'
#1548 [13:54] <bokaholic> Craigslist.
#1549 [13:54] <thig> oh
#1550 [13:54] * Kealper would like to remind everyone that this is #minecrafthelp and not #JobsDirect
#1550 [13:55] <thig> lol
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#1552 [13:55] <bokaholic> Sorry Kealper. ._.
#1553 [13:55] <thig> its helping bokaholic
#1554 [13:55] * bokaholic slinks off to the naughty corner. ;~;
#1554 [13:55] <Kealper> :o
#1555 [13:55] * Kealper goes back to Portal 2
#1555 [13:55] <thig> you hurt her feelings,say sorry kealper
#1556 [13:56] <bokaholic> Haha. I'm ok. I'm good.
#1557 [13:56] <thig> say sooory
#1558 [13:56] <Kealper> TIL bokaholic is female
#1559 [13:56] <thig> i knowsies
#1560 [13:56] <thig> 27 too
#1561 [13:56] <Kealper> (for those of you who don't frequent reddit, TIL is Today I Learned)
#1562 [13:56] <bokaholic> >.<
#1563 [13:56] <thig> i know
#1564 [13:56] <bokaholic> Enough about the age, eh? :I
#1565 [13:57] <thig> just wait till thay use teamviewer,that program could get you hacked
#1566 [13:57] <Kealper> only if you are stupid about it
#1567 [13:57] <thig> ya,
#1568 [13:58] <thig> but i still dont like teamviewer because it makes me worry
#1569 [13:58] <thig> kealper,why are you playing portal 2 ,that game sucks
#1570 [13:58] * g slaps thig around a bit with a large trout.
#1570 [13:58] <g> BLASHPEMY
#1571 [13:58] * bokaholic tries to recall Internet when she was 12. Pay by minute dial up.. ICE being programmed.. Yahoo chat.. IRC.. Ahhhh.. The good ol' days.
#1571 [13:59] * bokaholic also belatedly gasps.
#1571 [13:59] * Kealper doesn't want to be reminded of dialup
#1571 [13:59] <bokaholic> :T
#1572 [13:59] <thig> how do you do red letters?i want to
#1573 [13:59] <Kealper> it turns red when someone says your name
#1574 [13:59] <Kealper> thig: see?
#1575 [14:00] <thig> thats green
#1576 [14:00] <thig> mibbit
#1577 [14:00] <bokaholic> type /me to action.
#1578 [14:00] <Kealper> ok, well that is red for most clients ..>
#1579 [14:00] <Kealper> >.>*
#1580 [14:00] <NotiCon> silly
#1581 [14:00] <bokaholic> I think is what he means?
#1582 [14:00] <Kealper> oh, is actions red in mibbit? lol
#1583 [14:00] <NotiCon> no idea
#1584 [14:00] <thig> i dont know ill try
#1585 [14:00] <thig> thig punches obama i the face
#1586 [14:00] <thig> *in
#1587 [14:01] <bokaholic> Nooo.. /me poses.
#1588 [14:01] * Kealper[Mib] [Kealper[Mib]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1589 [14:01] <NotiCon> you forgot the /me
#1590 [14:01] * Kealper is testing
#1590 [14:01] <Kealper> yeah, that's red
#1591 [14:01] <bokaholic> 12 year old hating on Obama! Only in America.
#1592 [14:01] <Kealper> Kealper[Mib]: asdf
#1593 [14:01] <thig> naaaa,obamas fine
#1594 [14:01] <Kealper[Mib]> weird
#1595 [14:01] <Kealper[Mib]> this client is garbage
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#1597 [14:02] <VoxelHead> i like them =D
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#1599 [14:02] <bokaholic> Hey GreyVulpine.
#1600 [14:02] <yppah> hey, im using a start.bat file to modify the ram allocated for my minecraft, but running it doesnt change the ram alloted
#1601 [14:03] <jimmybrite> paste the line that contains the meminfo
#1602 [14:03] <yppah> java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar
#1603 [14:03] <jimmybrite> you might have xms and xmx mixed up?
#1604 [14:03] <jimmybrite> xms first I think
#1605 [14:03] <NotiCon> no its xmx
#1606 [14:03] <jimmybrite> xms = min xmx = max
#1607 [14:03] <jimmybrite> I run it that way and it works
#1608 [14:03] <yppah> ive seen both but ill try
#1609 [14:03] <jimmybrite> trust me
#1610 [14:04] <NotiCon> i run it with xmx first
#1611 [14:04] <yppah> nope still says 989
#1612 [14:04] <ooga> g is the best person to go to for help
#1613 [14:04] <g> bokaholic: Alright, I'm done
#1614 [14:04] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] Mojang Community Youtube Video Submission Guidelines (Anonymous) - Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:02:15 +0000
#1615 [14:04] <g> gah
#1616 [14:04] <g> see
#1617 [14:04] <ooga> He is a honestly a genuis setup took me 3 minute also a great guy and cool
#1618 [14:04] <g> that's whay I'm rewriting that bot
#1619 [14:04] <ooga> If anyone needs help G is a amazing
#1620 [14:04] <g> lol, thanks ooga
#1621 [14:04] <g> By the way
#1622 [14:04] <g> I suggest you clean up your desktop
#1623 [14:05] <g> and maybe move the gifs into a folder or something :P
#1624 [14:05] <thig> no,xales is the best person to go for help
#1625 [14:05] <g> I will say
#1626 [14:05] <g> xales knows his stuff
#1627 [14:05] <g> but
#1628 [14:05] <g> Teamviewer
#1629 [14:05] <g> is the master race
#1630 [14:05] <ooga> G
#1631 [14:05] <yppah> well i vote theres a competition to find out why my batch file isnt modifying the ram
#1632 [14:05] <bokaholic> I like, and miss Thoatt. *snf*
#1633 [14:05] <g> yppah: -XmX?
#1634 [14:05] <ooga> Is there a reason that theres nothing uder me still?
#1635 [14:05] <g> Poor bokaholic
#1636 [14:05] <yppah> java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar
#1637 [14:06] * g hugs bokaholic
#1637 [14:06] <yppah> is the line i run
#1638 [14:06] <g> That's correct
#1639 [14:06] <bokaholic> :3
#1640 [14:06] <yppah> well i F3 in game and it still shows 989mb
#1641 [14:06] <g> yeah
#1642 [14:06] <g> It doesn't work for in-game
#1643 [14:06] <g> that's for servers
#1644 [14:06] <ooga> wait
#1645 [14:06] <g> the game allocates its own memory
#1646 [14:06] <ooga> So I cant do survival with my friend?
#1647 [14:06] <g> yes you can
#1648 [14:06] * thig hugs bokaholic
#1648 [14:06] <g> this is something completely different
#1649 [14:06] <g> :P
#1650 [14:06] <bokaholic> I need to also hop on my other computer and set the ram for my server. Damn thing say 'NOT ENOUGH RAM!' when I boot up the server.
#1651 [14:06] <thig> yes
#1652 [14:06] <ooga> Theres nothing under me
#1653 [14:06] <ooga> everything around me is blue
#1654 [14:06] <thig> oh ya
#1655 [14:06] <ooga> and I can't move..
#1656 [14:07] <NotiCon> you can allocate memory for the client aswell as the server
#1657 [14:07] <g> ooga: Yeah, give it time
#1658 [14:07] <g> a local connection is too fast for first loading speeds
#1659 [14:07] <yppah> oh, well i was running into issues yesterday in single player where my cpu would just spike to full red across my screen
#1660 [14:07] <g> rejoin it if it takes too long
#1661 [14:07] <yppah> and they said to try lowering the ram allocations
#1662 [14:07] <ooga> okay
#1663 [14:07] <ooga> kk
#1664 [14:07] <thig> i figured out how to do red letters
#1665 [14:07] <ooga> oh
#1666 [14:07] <ooga> there we go
#1667 [14:07] <ooga> thanks
#1668 [14:07] <g> yppah: The F3 graph?
#1669 [14:07] <bokaholic> Good job, Thig. :)
#1670 [14:07] <g> That's an FPS graph, ignore that
#1671 [14:07] <yppah> yeah
#1672 [14:07] <g> Lagspikes are completely normal
#1673 [14:07] <yppah> i know the cpu was at ~70% as per task man
#1674 [14:08] * thig parachutes into happyland
#1674 [14:08] <ooga> wait... again lol
#1675 [14:08] <g> and, thig
#1676 [14:08] <ooga> i broke some grass and it just spwaned again..
#1677 [14:08] <g> http://i.imgur.com/eichD.png
#1678 [14:08] <g> ooga: You're too close to the spawn
#1679 [14:08] <g> op yourself in the console
#1680 [14:08] <yppah> i would sit at 1 fps and 1 chunk update with no leaks and stuff
#1681 [14:08] <g> (op username)
#1682 [14:08] <ooga> oh I need to move away?
#1683 [14:08] <thig> what g?
#1684 [14:08] <g> thig: That's my specs
#1685 [14:08] <bokaholic> ooga: You can build by spawn if you are ops/
#1686 [14:08] <bokaholic> .
#1687 [14:08] <g> ^
#1688 [14:08] * Droolio [Droolio@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1689 [14:08] <ooga> I dont wanna spawn
#1690 [14:09] <ooga> I wanna do survival lol
#1691 [14:09] <g> The spawn is where every one starts
#1692 [14:09] <thig> why did you give me your specs?
#1693 [14:09] <g> you can't /spawn
#1694 [14:09] * Thoatt [Thoatt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1695 [14:09] <g> thig: Because you gave yours
#1696 [14:09] <g> :P
#1697 [14:09] <bokaholic> Load up a map in the folder that your world is in and open server.props.
#1698 [14:09] <ooga> okay
#1699 [14:09] <Thoatt> what wat
#1700 [14:09] <ooga> so now i just wait
#1701 [14:09] <ooga> and it will let me collect stuff?
#1702 [14:09] <g> bokaholic: No, they can't remove the spawn zone
#1703 [14:09] <bokaholic> Then change the world to that--Thoatt!
#1704 [14:09] <Thoatt> I heard the psychic call of bokaholic.
#1705 [14:09] <thig> no,that was the specs of a computer i wanted to buy
#1706 [14:09] <bokaholic> hahaha
#1707 [14:09] <Thoatt> :)
#1708 [14:09] <g> thig: :P
#1709 [14:09] <VoxelHead> you lie... YOU LIEEEEEEE@**^$**!�%percent�~#
#1710 [14:09] <VoxelHead> =]
#1711 [14:09] <g> vox, shut up
#1712 [14:09] <bokaholic> The Internet is filled with magic.
#1713 [14:10] <VoxelHead> :(
#1714 [14:10] <ooga> how can i start
#1715 [14:10] <g> That it is
#1716 [14:10] <ooga> collecting stuff now?
#1717 [14:10] <Thoatt> And people in the same room lol
#1718 [14:10] <g> ooga, walk away from where you started
#1719 [14:10] <g> I think it's around 16 blocks away
#1720 [14:10] <ooga> oaky thanks
#1721 [14:10] <g> yw
#1722 [14:10] <g> now
#1723 [14:10] <g> bokaholic: About programming
#1724 [14:10] <g> Couple of questions for you
#1725 [14:11] <thig> ny computer sucks so bad,it cant even run minecraft
#1726 [14:11] <g> If you had the chance to program anything, what would it be?
#1727 [14:11] * flabbergaster [flabbergaster@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1728 [14:11] <g> thig: This thing is a beast
#1729 [14:11] <thig> the graphics card is really bad
#1730 [14:11] <g> ~200fps
#1731 [14:11] <ooga> I moved really far way
#1732 [14:11] <ooga> away but it still doesn t work
#1733 [14:11] <g> ooga: In the server window
#1734 [14:11] <g> op username
#1735 [14:11] <g> where username is your username
#1736 [14:11] <bokaholic> Uhhhm. Anything? I would program games.. Maybe iphone apps. They seem fun. But I guess I dunno. Never have thought about it.
#1737 [14:11] <g> Alright
#1738 [14:11] <g> well
#1739 [14:11] * ferminter [ferminter@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1740 [14:12] <g> Which of these do you prefer:...
#1741 [14:12] * thig stares at g in jealousy
#1741 [14:12] <ferminter> how would one go about finding where to mod the tnt damage scale?
#1742 [14:12] <SinZ> Night all!
#1743 [14:12] <g> Efficiency, ease of use, little time spent
#1744 [14:12] <g> or
#1745 [14:12] <g> diversity
#1746 [14:12] <g> Night, SinZ
#1747 [14:12] <bokaholic> Efficiency.
#1748 [14:12] <g> Efficiency, okay
#1749 [14:12] <ferminter> just point me in the right direction
#1750 [14:13] <thig> lemme guess,bokaholic lives in germay
#1751 [14:13] <g> So you'd be happy with a (relatively) difficult language if it was efficient?
#1752 [14:13] <thig> *germany
#1753 [14:13] <ooga> wait so g
#1754 [14:13] <ooga> even if I moved super far away
#1755 [14:13] <ooga> everything i break
#1756 [14:13] * bokaholic gasps. "I do not live in Germany!"
#1756 [14:13] <ooga> just re spawns
#1757 [14:13] <g> That shouldn't happen
#1758 [14:13] * zouhair [zouhair@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1759 [14:13] <g> I think there's a bug in MC that causes that
#1760 [14:13] <bokaholic> g: Yeah.
#1761 [14:13] <thig> bokaholic lives in europe
#1762 [14:13] <g> If it really fails, try using bukkit
#1763 [14:13] <ooga> bukkit?
#1764 [14:13] <g> bokaholic: I think we'd be good with C++/Qt then
#1765 [14:13] <g> ooga: #bukkit
#1766 [14:14] <bokaholic> thig: No!
#1767 [14:14] <bokaholic> g: I almost took that up when I was 18. :O
#1768 [14:14] <thig> hmmm,america then
#1769 [14:14] <bokaholic> Yes
#1770 [14:14] <g> bokaholic: lol, Cox Communications Inc.
#1771 [14:14] <Ehrehin> ok no reply to my statement
#1772 [14:14] <g> Ehrehin: Sorry, must have missed it
#1773 [14:14] <g> what was it?
#1774 [14:14] <bokaholic> You like that? I know I love it.
#1775 [14:14] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] Mojang Community Youtube Launched (Anonymous) - Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:10:23 +0000
#1776 [14:14] <g> urgh
#1777 [14:14] <bokaholic> There's Cox trucks all over the place. I giggle like a child.
#1778 [14:14] <g> lol :P
#1779 [14:15] <Ehrehin> why can't I set a server name with MCLawl
#1780 [14:15] <thig> lol
#1781 [14:15] <g> NETBLK-OM-RDC-68-110-16-0
#1782 [14:15] <g> bokaholic: Atlanta then
#1783 [14:15] <bokaholic> No sir.
#1784 [14:15] <g> Ehrehin: #mclawl
#1785 [14:15] <g> COX-ATLANTA-2
#1786 [14:15] <g> hmm
#1787 [14:15] <bokaholic> :O
#1788 [14:15] <bokaholic> Omaha/Council Bluffs area is where I live.
#1789 [14:15] <thig> bokaholic lives in L.A.
#1790 [14:15] * g does a tracert
#1790 [14:15] <bokaholic> n.n
#1791 [14:16] <g> thig: lols
#1792 [14:16] <g> stop trying to guess bro
#1793 [14:16] <g> it never works
#1794 [14:16] <Thoatt> lolz
#1795 [14:16] <g> bokaholic: What do you remember of C++?
#1796 [14:16] <Thoatt> using namespace std;
#1797 [14:16] <thig> i posted that right after she did so i didnt see it
#1798 [14:16] <bokaholic> g: I smoked so much pot at the time I hardly remember being 18 :I
#1799 [14:16] <g> :P
#1800 [14:16] <g> Route going through nyc,
#1801 [14:16] <yppah> c++ is alright
#1802 [14:16] <g> dallas
#1803 [14:17] <Thoatt> bokaholic, das terr-ble
#1804 [14:17] <thig> ooooohh,NOT GOOD BOKAHOLIC
#1805 [14:17] <g> yppah: My best apps are done in C++
#1806 [14:17] <yppah> i wrong an asteroids clone type thing in c++ and DRX
#1807 [14:17] <bokaholic> onoes.
#1808 [14:17] <yppah> wrote*
#1809 [14:17] <g> bokaholic appears to have anti-tracert servers
#1810 [14:17] * bokaholic flexes.
#1810 [14:17] <yppah> if we're talking applications, though, i like doing fast ones in c# lol
#1811 [14:17] <yppah> because thats easy mode
#1812 [14:17] <g> the hop between 68.13.9.14 and 68.110.16.212 (bok's IP) times out
#1813 [14:17] * bokaholic bings.
#1813 [14:17] <g> yppah: Qt makes things pretty damn easy
#1814 [14:18] <g> Here's one I made earlier..
#1815 [14:18] * DreadLindwyrm [DreadLindwyrm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1816 [14:18] <g> http://mcplusplus.net/MiniPaste
#1817 [14:18] <thig> peaceful sucks
#1818 [14:18] <VoxelHead> peaceful = turd-action
#1819 [14:18] <Thoatt> g http://www.geoiptool.com/en/?IP=68.110.16.212
#1820 [14:18] <thig> yep
#1821 [14:18] <g> That's pretty accurate
#1822 [14:18] <g> :P
#1823 [14:18] <Thoatt> lol
#1824 [14:18] * g bookmarks that site
#1824 [14:18] * bokaholic brbs to use the little girls room :V
#1824 [14:18] <thig> haha
#1825 [14:18] <VoxelHead> Well, thankfully I was able to reprogram those cyborgs at the last minute, and send them off to do HORRIBLE THINGS to the humans.
#1826 [14:18] <g> vox, shut up
#1827 [14:18] <g> damn bot
#1828 [14:18] <Ehrehin> ok that didn't help me
#1829 [14:18] <Thoatt> SPEAKING OF WHICH
#1830 [14:19] <VoxelHead> fine
#1831 [14:19] <Thoatt> Back to playing Portal Deuce
#1832 [14:19] <g> Thoatt: Then where do I live?
#1833 [14:19] <thig> is bokaholic still living with her parents,just guessing,
#1834 [14:19] <g> thig: She's 277 >.>
#1835 [14:19] <g> 27*
#1836 [14:19] <g> lol
#1837 [14:19] <thig> ya,i know
#1838 [14:19] <yppah> shes a jedi
#1839 [14:19] <g> So, I would say she isn't
#1840 [14:20] <g> And to be quite honest you're getting reeeaaally annoying
#1841 [14:20] <Ehrehin> I still have no answer as to why it won't let me set a server name
#1842 [14:20] <thig> well, a lot of people on here are nerds,but shes got a sense of humor
#1843 [14:20] <g> Ehrehin: It's probably in the settings somewhere
#1844 [14:20] <g> Find their site, get support there
#1845 [14:20] <bokaholic> I do not live with my parents. I wouldn't be looking for a 2nd job if I was D:
#1846 [14:20] <Thoatt> g
#1847 [14:20] <g> Thoatt: Yes?
#1848 [14:20] <Thoatt> 7, hawthorn Wook, Kenmare, Kerry KE99
#1849 [14:20] <g> Indeed
#1850 [14:20] <Thoatt> :P
#1851 [14:20] <g> Not bad :P
#1852 [14:21] <g> Yeah, whoising my domain is pretty easy
#1853 [14:21] <g> but if you'd traced the IP,
#1854 [14:21] <Thoatt> Hey, you asked... lol
#1855 [14:21] <g> you'd have got california
#1856 [14:21] <g> :P
#1857 [14:21] <g> not california
#1858 [14:21] <Ehrehin> so none of you can help some tech team.....
#1859 [14:21] <g> chicago
#1860 [14:21] <Thoatt> It's not the means, it's the ends... :)
#1861 [14:21] <g> Ehrehin: Find their tech team, we can't support mclawl here
#1862 [14:21] <Thoatt> AND ON THAT NOTE..
#1863 [14:21] <g> indeed :P
#1864 [14:21] * Thoatt goes back to portal deuce
#1864 [14:21] <thig> can i get a suggestion for a good computer for aming that is under 1000
#1865 [14:21] <g> bokaholic: OK, then, we'll start from scratch
#1866 [14:21] <bokaholic> Thoatt: You get my message about being robbed last week?
#1867 [14:21] <Thoatt> no?
#1868 [14:22] <g> thig: Mine cost €3000
#1869 [14:22] <Thoatt> i dun think so lol
#1870 [14:22] <g> €1000 is not enough for a gaming PC
#1871 [14:22] <bokaholic> Someone stole my 800 dollar stereo system from my car. ;.;
#1872 [14:22] <Thoatt> D:
#1873 [14:22] <NotiCon> aww
#1874 [14:22] <Thoatt> go buy portal 2, all will be forgotten.
#1875 [14:22] <bokaholic> Luckily, though, they didn't break a window. They got in so professionally the police said 'I'm shocked you still have a car..'.
#1876 [14:22] * thig stares at g saying in his head "no wonder his computer is a beast
#1876 [14:22] <DreadLindwyrm> thig - what currency?
#1877 [14:22] <bokaholic> I have no money for portal 2!
#1878 [14:22] * bokaholic sobs into hands.
#1878 [14:22] <Thoatt> D:
#1879 [14:23] <thig> im telling you that game sucks people
#1880 [14:23] <Thoatt> I'm playing through the single player atm because I'm a dirty thief 8D
#1881 [14:23] <bokaholic> I'll be able to afford it when no one plays it anymore.
#1882 [14:23] <bokaholic> lol
#1883 [14:23] <Morrolan> g: Really depends wheter it's 1000$ or 1000� though. ;)
#1884 [14:23] * thig hugs bokaholic
#1884 [14:23] <thig> oh,$1000
#1885 [14:23] * bokaholic sniffs.
#1885 [14:24] <Thoatt> anywho... forreal... back to portal 2.
#1886 [14:24] * Thoatt hugs bokaholic
#1886 [14:24] <NotiCon> Thoatt: no
#1887 [14:24] * bokaholic :)
#1887 [14:24] <Morrolan> Hmm, no Hugbot in here?
#1888 [14:24] <NotiCon> stay and entertain some
#1889 [14:25] <thig> im here for entertainment and i good computer to buy
#1890 [14:25] <bokaholic> I build my own computers.
#1891 [14:25] <bokaholic> Cheaper that way
#1892 [14:25] <bokaholic> And more fun.
#1893 [14:25] <thig> dang
#1894 [14:25] <g> damn straight
#1895 [14:25] <thig> i would _never_ want to build a computer
#1896 [14:26] <NotiCon> silly
#1897 [14:26] <jimmybriteAFK> i would _never_ buy pre-built
#1898 [14:26] <thig> waaaaaaaaay to complicated
#1899 [14:26] <NotiCon> building computers is more fun
#1900 [14:26] <bokaholic> Except when the graphics card you have breaks.. oh.. 4 motherboards.. Gets sort of annoying. :I
#1901 [14:26] <jimmybriteAFK> no its not
#1902 [14:26] <DreadLindwyrm> It's usually fine, unless you are colourblind
#1903 [14:26] <bokaholic> thig: Noooo.
#1904 [14:26] <jimmybriteAFK> just ask the parts store to put the cpu on the board for you
#1905 [14:26] <jimmybriteAFK> thats the "hardest" part
#1906 [14:26] <jimmybriteAFK> honnest
#1907 [14:27] <NotiCon> not really
#1908 [14:27] <jimmybriteAFK> its not hard, but ppl are afraid
#1909 [14:27] <thig> thank you noticon
#1910 [14:27] <NotiCon> just read the small dot on the cpu
#1911 [14:27] <jimmybriteAFK> thats what I meant
#1912 [14:27] <jimmybriteAFK> sorry
#1913 [14:27] <NotiCon> ?
#1914 [14:27] <thig> nevermind
#1915 [14:27] <jimmybriteAFK> Pelple are afraid to do that for some reason
#1916 [14:28] <NotiCon> true
#1917 [14:28] <jimmybriteAFK> just buy a barebones or a pc shop pc, it's still cheaper than most crap out there
#1918 [14:28] <jimmybriteAFK> a Clone
#1919 [14:28] * thig stares at all the zombies,ounumbered he says
#1919 [14:28] <jimmybriteAFK> not hp, not acer, not dell, not mac
#1920 [14:28] <NotiCon> levono is nice for laptops
#1921 [14:28] <Kealper> jimmybriteAFK: most people don't want to do that because it's a lot of money to invest and then just break because they did not know how to put it together
#1922 [14:29] <thig> thats the type of computer i was looking at
#1923 [14:29] <DreadLindwyrm> I have an intention to build a real beast when I have some money. On the other hand, the component list has got out of hand.
#1924 [14:29] * bokaholic trips over her dog. >:I
#1924 [14:30] <bokaholic> Trying to spill my drink :(
#1925 [14:30] * thig pulls out his browning and mows em down
#1925 [14:30] <jimmybrite> Kealper: warranty
#1926 [14:30] <NotiCon> bokaholic: can i have your dog?
#1927 [14:30] <jimmybrite> I still have my bills, and I can still return anything
#1928 [14:30] <Kealper> jimmybrite: people still don't want to risk it
#1929 [14:30] <bokaholic> NotiCon: Which one? :o
#1930 [14:31] <NotiCon> jimmybrite: sometimes they dont accept it if it was cause you were being silly when putting it together
#1931 [14:31] <NotiCon> bokaholic: them all ofc? o:
#1932 [14:31] <Kealper> i've talked to numerous people who have wanted to build their own computers, that is always the reason they gave, was that they did not want to break something just after they bought it
#1933 [14:31] <DreadLindwyrm> I used to have the pictures from where someone used a hammer to fit a board into a machine - it wasn't even the right slot.
#1934 [14:31] <Kealper> DreadLindwyrm: ._.
#1935 [14:31] <bokaholic> NotiCon: Hmm.. I don't think so.. They keep me company.
#1936 [14:31] <NotiCon> DreadLindwyrm: i once heard about a guy that cut off some pins from his gfx card cause it was pci-e and he only had pci slot
#1937 [14:32] <thig> how many of you have glasses or braces
#1938 [14:32] <NotiCon> bokaholic: one of them then?
#1939 [14:32] <bokaholic> NotiCon: Hmm.. We can switch off I suppose.
#1940 [14:32] <NotiCon> fair enough
#1941 [14:32] <bokaholic> Hehe
#1942 [14:33] <thig> i have glasses,people think they look good on me but i dont like them
#1943 [14:33] <jimmybrite> NotiCon: It's like anything in life, if you dont know much about it, they'll screw you over, like at a garage.
#1944 [14:33] <jimmybrite> which is why I build my own pc, and fix my own car
#1945 [14:34] <thig> and now that im talking on this irc,im becoming a nerd,not to mention im modding minecraft
#1946 [14:34] <Kealper> jimmybrite: there is also the people who just can't be assed to take the time to learn that stuff...many people would rather just pay a bit extra to have everything done right
#1947 [14:34] <jimmybrite> dude done right,
#1948 [14:34] <Kealper> talking on irc does not equate to becomming a nerd if you're using Mibbit >.>
#1949 [14:34] <g> Kealper: And the people who don't have time
#1950 [14:34] <jimmybrite> like shitty mobo components and shitty overall products, no thanks
#1951 [14:34] <Kealper> g: that too
#1952 [14:34] <Kealper> lol
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#1954 [14:34] <g> :P
#1955 [14:35] <jimmybrite> I shouldn't speak I got a gigabyte mobo :S
#1956 [14:35] <jimmybrite> the nagain it's running like a champ
#1957 [14:35] <Kealper> i've got a Biostar one >.>
#1958 [14:35] <VoxelHead> Who knows.
#1959 [14:35] <jimmybrite> I got out of my way NOT to get biostar
#1960 [14:35] <jimmybrite> lol
#1961 [14:35] <jimmybrite> AND asus
#1962 [14:35] <Kealper> those things are either it works fine, or it dies and takes everything out with it
#1963 [14:35] <thig> but i have time,lets face it, im nerd, a 12 year old nerd,i feel very ashamed in myself
#1964 [14:36] <Kealper> in my case, it works perfect lol
#1965 [14:36] <jimmybrite> for my i5 the asus boards had TONS of issues, until revision 2 I guess, but even then
#1966 [14:36] <NotiCon> better get back to school then
#1967 [14:36] <Kealper> oh....bleh, i have not had any problems with amd asus boards
#1968 [14:36] <Kealper> my server has one
#1969 [14:36] <thig> its saturday
#1970 [14:36] <NotiCon> dont they have weekend school? o:
#1971 [14:36] <thig> not in america babe
#1972 [14:36] <jimmybrite> My old board is asus, I love em, I just hear that for my processor specifically (1155 socket) the entry level asus ones were shit
#1973 [14:37] <jimmybrite> so I got gigabyte
#1974 [14:37] <Kealper> looks pretty nice, too....the southbridge and northbridge heatsinks look awesome \o/
#1975 [14:38] <thig> i heard that in sweden you have school 60 hours a week
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#1977 [14:39] <thig> is that true?
#1978 [14:40] <jacobat> I'm pretty sure that is not true :)
#1979 [14:40] <NotiCon> no idea im not swede
#1980 [14:40] * thig goes to play with his cat,jumped 6 feet high once to get a faether in the air
#1980 [14:41] * thig also goes to have an omlet
#1980 [14:47] <NotiCon> g: how is the refactoring working?
#1981 [14:47] <g> Not doing it currently
#1982 [14:47] <g> I'll get around to it at some point
#1983 [14:47] <g> Right now, going to try to teach bokaholic C++
#1984 [14:47] * bokaholic :B
#1984 [14:47] <g> :P
#1985 [14:48] <NotiCon> oh
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#1988 [14:54] <Kealper> that was a fun restart
#1989 [14:55] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] Sub Forum for big projects! (Anonymous) - Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:54:43 +0000
#1990 [15:00] <m0nk> it rains [under]water
#1991 [15:01] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper
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#1993 [15:03] <linduxed> requesting help with the following issue: http://is.gd/M9g2pL
#1994 [15:04] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: rawr
#1995 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Yo Kealper, will give more info in #mcbots
#1996 [15:05] <Kealper> k
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#1998 [15:05] <m0nk> linduxed: try jumping
#1999 [15:05] <Thoatt> GreyVulpine, ._.
#2000 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I'll just give it here
#2001 [15:06] <Thoatt> lol ok
#2002 [15:06] <linduxed> m0nk: doesn't help
#2003 [15:06] <Thoatt> GreyVulpine, or kchat :P
#2004 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Okay, the deal is this. Today, I hopped onto a person's server that was running mcbans, got a notice that I had an mcbans entry
#2005 [15:06] * Mannes09 [Mannes09@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2006 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Weird, since I don't frequent any servers besides Kealper's
#2007 [15:07] <DreadLindwyrm> Could it be a IP block ban, or a dynamic IP issue?
#2008 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Did some investigation, turns out it's a ban from reddit's server.
#2009 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> They added a global ban for myself, as well as thoatt
#2010 [15:07] <Kealper> O.o
#2011 [15:07] * cookiez [cookiez@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2012 [15:07] <DreadLindwyrm> Nice.
#2013 [15:07] <cookiez> halp?!
#2014 [15:07] <Kealper> ??> cookiez ask
#2015 [15:07] <VoxelHead> cookiez: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2016 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Thing is, I have logs of the day in question, and both thoatt and myself were busy in this channel
#2017 [15:07] <VoxelHead> cookiez: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2018 [15:08] <cookiez> right, ive bought minecraft
#2019 [15:08] <cookiez> over 2 hours ago
#2020 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Reddit gave me a log of what happened, with a classic server that reddit uses.
#2021 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/a0HMp9JJ
#2022 [15:08] * ManBearPig [ManBearPig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2023 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> You will notice that the ip address I allegedly connected from, is in Australia
#2024 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> I traced it back to the same time both thoatt and myself, helped test a person's server in here.
#2025 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Also from australia
#2026 [15:09] <cookiez> and when i try to login i get cannot connect to minecraft.net
#2027 [15:09] <Kealper> O.o
#2028 [15:09] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2029 [15:09] <cookiez> and if i click play offline i get a black screen
#2030 [15:09] <Thoatt> uhh.... that testing whitebans guy
#2031 [15:09] <Thoatt> ?
#2032 [15:09] <DreadLindwyrm> Wow. Someone has screwed you over real well.
#2033 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/Mh9A0qVW
#2034 [15:09] <cookiez> me?
#2035 [15:10] <DreadLindwyrm> cookiez - force the game to update
#2036 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> This is the log of minecrafthelp, approximately near the same time.
#2037 [15:10] <Thoatt> lol
#2038 [15:10] <cookiez> forced
#2039 [15:10] <cookiez> failed
#2040 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> So, Thoatt, I would highly recommend you changing your password for minecraft as well
#2041 [15:10] <Mannes09> Hey. Minecraft runs fine on a server when im on my desktop, but when im on my laptop it lags and is really slow. Why? (Single Player doesn't lag on my desktop or my laptop.)
#2042 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Also, I'm tempted in saying, we don't help test random servers in here anymore.
#2043 [15:11] <Thoatt> I'm guessing he doesn't have my password...
#2044 [15:11] <m0nk> Mannes09 try setting graphics to fast
#2045 [15:11] <Mannes09> doen's help
#2046 [15:11] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: that's why aubot is here :P
#2047 [15:11] <Thoatt> Because if he did, why wouldn't he have changed the password to it?
#2048 [15:11] <Thoatt> lol
#2049 [15:11] <Mannes09> doesn't*
#2050 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, but I got them to remove both you and myself from the mcbans list
#2051 [15:11] <cookiez> DreadLindwyrm - I forced update, and it still failed to connect to minecraft
#2052 [15:12] <Thoatt> He probably just sent the packet to the server he was trying to get into, and sent my client the whitelist fail, and logged into the reddit server on my account... brilliant really..
#2053 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Probably
#2054 [15:12] <DreadLindwyrm> Hmm. I think I'm out of likely ideas then. Is your java updated?
#2055 [15:12] <Mannes09> yep
#2056 [15:12] <cookiez> just downloaded
#2057 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Here's the relevant reddit post which the admin thinks we were subjected to
#2058 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/gm6p1/minecraft_vulnerability/
#2059 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> No details though
#2060 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> By the way, this was on the 11th of this month, a week ago
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#2062 [15:13] <cookiez> DreadLindwyrm - what would stop be connecting :/
#2063 [15:13] <cookiez> me*
#2064 [15:13] <cookiez> when i play it on the website it loads 90% or so and just freezes
#2065 [15:14] <Kealper> thoatt probably nailed that on the head with what he did
#2066 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> That's what I think as well.
#2067 [15:14] <Kealper> if you can copy the client's handshake to the server, you could do just that for a short period of time until the handshake's token crap expires
#2068 [15:14] <DreadLindwyrm> No idea then. I'm not a massively techy guy - I was just suggesting the common fixes for those symptoms.
#2069 [15:14] <cookiez> ah, thnx anyway
#2070 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> I do think it's a good idea to cut back on helping people connect to their servers in #minecrafthelp.
#2071 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Just so we don't get this again
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#2073 [15:16] <Kealper> yeah, i never even thought of something like this when i was experimenting with handshakes....now that i know of it, people who need to connect get aubot, and aubot only lol
#2074 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Also would like to give xales and dopeghoti a heads up as well
#2075 [15:17] <aetherian> huh wha... what's happening now?
#2076 [15:17] <mang0> Hmm
#2077 [15:17] <mang0> I'm having extreme chat lag problems with minecraft, on all smp servers
#2078 [15:17] <mang0> any ideas why?
#2079 [15:17] <Thoatt> aetherian, you are going to want to connect to as many servers as possibe..
#2080 [15:17] <mang0> I've pinged them all, and I lose 100% of my packets
#2081 [15:17] <Thoatt> Preferably anywho who asks in here.
#2082 [15:18] <aetherian> wait, wait...
#2083 [15:18] <aetherian> I connect to servers that people ask about now?
#2084 [15:18] <Morrolan> aetherian: Suggest you catch up on the last five minutes.
#2085 [15:18] <Thoatt> yeah :D
#2086 [15:18] <Thoatt> Just, connect to everyone!
#2087 [15:18] <aetherian> I can't, I don't have the log, silly :|
#2088 [15:18] <Thoatt> It's a pantsless party!
#2089 [15:18] <Morrolan> Oh sorry, you just connected.
#2090 [15:18] <aetherian> Thoatt: what's the reason for this sudden connect-a-thon
#2091 [15:19] <Thoatt> lol aetherian, I'm kidding :P
#2092 [15:19] <aetherian> aww
#2093 [15:19] <aetherian> 'tis not like it woulda been much different
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#2095 [15:20] <Thoatt> Basically, me and GV were trying to help some noob 'test' his whitelist, it stole our token, and got us banhammerzedezed on the Reddit server. lol
#2096 [15:20] <aetherian> Going there personally is the best way to check if it's up
#2097 [15:20] <VoxelHead> thoatt: GV and I
#2098 [15:20] <Morrolan> Vox: Donkey first.
#2099 [15:20] <aetherian> xD
#2100 [15:20] <aetherian> still
#2101 [15:20] <aetherian> poor thoatt and GV
#2102 [15:21] <Thoatt> doesn't matter to me. lol
#2103 [15:21] <aetherian> guess you'll just have to do something with your life apart from spending all day looking at rage comics :D
#2104 [15:21] <Thoatt> Oh well, I got banned on the reddit server... It's not like I go there..
#2105 [15:21] <aetherian> You could always request an unban :>
#2106 [15:21] <Thoatt> I don't really go to any server that I don't help set up, so It's not like I lost anything...
#2107 [15:21] <Thoatt> GV did
#2108 [15:21] <aetherian> Good for him.
#2109 [15:22] <Morrolan> I wonder wheter that guy made that custom server himself though, or if it can be found out there somewhere. :/
#2110 [15:22] <Thoatt> It wouldn't be hard at all to make...
#2111 [15:22] <aetherian> what an ass
#2112 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Nah, I haven't gone on reddit's server at all
#2113 [15:22] <Thoatt> I just wish I'd thought of it first lol
#2114 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Just, I got myself unbanned, and saw that thoatt was banned as well
#2115 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Wondered why
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#2117 [15:23] <Morrolan> Thoatt: True, but it's still something which most people aren't able to make. If everyone can just download it though we might have a problem.
#2118 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> It's also a punkbuster-like system, get enough global bans, you're banned from all servers that run mcbans
#2119 [15:23] * GreyVulpine looks out for his #minecrafthelp peeps.
#2119 [15:23] <aetherian> This is why I endorse vanilla ;_;
#2120 [15:23] <Morrolan> Yeah, with the addition that bans "run out" after a while AFAIK.
#2121 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, these mcbans don't
#2122 [15:24] <Morrolan> Oh, they don't?
#2123 [15:24] * GreyVulpine shakes
#2123 [15:24] <Thoatt> OH GAWD
#2124 [15:24] <aetherian> Okay, I'm at a total loss as to what's happening. back to /.!
#2125 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Once a server owner files for a mcban entry, you have a month to appeal, until it becomes permanent
#2126 [15:24] <Thoatt> HE'S GOING INTO CONVULSIONS!
#2127 [15:24] * Thoatt sticks a tongue depresser in GV's mouth.
#2127 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> The system also goes by, you're guilty until proven innocent
#2128 [15:25] <Morrolan> aetherian: Just don't connect to any server which is posted here, and you're fine. ;)
#2129 [15:25] * GreyVulpine kicks Thoatt
#2129 [15:25] <aetherian> hehehe
#2130 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> There, I'm all better now
#2131 [15:25] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#2132 [15:25] <aetherian> Not to mention
#2133 [15:25] <Thoatt> http://i.imgur.com/jccYW.gif
#2134 [15:26] <aetherian> the whole MCBans seems like a lotta crap.
#2135 [15:26] * Sun7zu [Sun7zu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2136 [15:28] <aetherian> but it's okay
#2137 [15:28] <aetherian> This is also the reason I never play multiplayer, apparently.
#2138 [15:29] <aetherian> that and the fact that there's nobody good to play with, it seems.
#2139 [15:29] <Thoatt> I see how you are...
#2140 [15:29] <Thoatt> you played with us for a while, then quit...
#2141 [15:29] <aetherian> what oh
#2142 [15:29] <Thoatt> there is a TON more crap on our server..
#2143 [15:30] <aetherian> that was a different reason
#2144 [15:30] <Thoatt> Have you seen Creep the redeemer yet?
#2145 [15:30] <VoxelHead> r
#2146 [15:30] <Thoatt> oh.... why then?
#2147 [15:30] <aetherian> uh
#2148 [15:30] <aetherian> I live in america, so I can plead the fifth, I think.
#2149 [15:30] <VoxelHead> Mmm m0nk.
#2150 [15:31] <Thoatt> The interweb has no fifth.. what did you do ._.
#2151 [15:31] <aetherian> what is this
#2152 [15:31] <Thoatt> THIS
#2153 [15:31] <aetherian> automatically assume I did something
#2154 [15:31] <Thoatt> IS
#2155 [15:31] <Thoatt> SPARTA!
#2156 [15:31] <aetherian> no.
#2157 [15:31] <aetherian> just no.
#2158 [15:31] <Thoatt> okay.
#2159 [15:31] <aetherian> this is not sparta.
#2160 [15:32] <Thoatt> no kick aetherian? :(
#2161 [15:33] <Thoatt> :P
#2162 [15:33] <aetherian> ._.
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#2165 [15:34] <Thoatt> lemme go take a pic of creep the redeemer
#2166 [15:34] <Thoatt> sec
#2167 [15:34] <aetherian> ...
#2168 [15:34] <Thoatt> 274.48km by pig so far.... meh..
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#2170 [15:39] <Thoatt> Creep The Redeemer: http://i.imgur.com/JE2Qi.png
#2171 [15:39] <aetherian> heh
#2172 [15:39] <VoxelHead> :o)
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#2174 [15:40] <aetherian> I do still stand by what I have said before, the /average/ server moderator is an unfair, self serving, hypocritical jerk.
#2175 [15:41] <aetherian> and all the other servers I ragequit too fast from D:
#2176 [15:41] <g> :P
#2177 [15:42] <Thoatt> You saying I'm an unfair self serving hypocrtical jerk?
#2178 [15:42] <Thoatt> Because I am :)
#2179 [15:42] <aetherian> ...
#2180 [15:43] <bokaholic> x)
#2181 [15:47] <g> Bot test
#2182 [15:48] * g waits for it
#2182 [15:48] * gTestBot [gTestBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2183 [15:48] <gTestBot> This was a triumph. I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.
#2184 [15:48] <g> win
#2185 [15:48] <bokaholic> o.o
#2186 [15:48] <g> Wrapping a wrapper is working
#2187 [15:48] * mib_vfdibe [mib_vfdibe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2188 [15:48] <g> :P
#2189 [15:48] * bokaholic pokes gTestBot.
#2189 [15:48] * jimmybrite [jimmybrite@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2190 [15:48] <bokaholic> O.O
#2191 [15:48] <g> xD
#2192 [15:49] <mib_vfdibe> Hi, if anyone can help I have a problem with one of my maps. All the data (at least I THINK all the data) is in the Roaming/.Minecraft etc folder, but the map is not showing up on the in game lost, so I cannot access it. Anyone know what might be wrong?
#2193 [15:49] <bokaholic> What is the point of a bot, anyway g?
#2194 [15:49] <mib_vfdibe> *list
#2195 [15:50] <aetherian> mib_vfdibe: so you checked that there was a world file in ~/.minecraft/saves ?
#2196 [15:50] <VoxelHead> No, that doesn't make me horny.
#2197 [15:50] <bokaholic> Vox, calm down.
#2198 [15:50] <aetherian> heh
#2199 [15:51] <VoxelHead> =)
#2200 [15:51] <mib_vfdibe> aetherian: Yes
#2201 [15:51] <mib_vfdibe> aetherian: Thats whats confusing me
#2202 [15:51] <Morrolan> mib: Download MCEdit, open the map there and save it again. This MIGHT fix it.
#2203 [15:51] <Morrolan> And we really need a FAQ entry for this, getting asked quite often.
#2204 [15:51] <mib_vfdibe> Morrolan: Thanks, I'll give it a go
#2205 [15:52] <Morrolan> MCEdit can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#2206 [15:52] <Morrolan> And you're welcome, tell us if it worked. :)
#2207 [15:52] <g> ~title
#2208 [15:52] <McPlusPlus> "MCEdit: Minecraft World Editor (Beta 1.5_01 Compatible!) - Minecraft Forums" (http://is.gd/rnBfkU)
#2209 [15:52] <g> Surely we can't support these?
#2210 [15:52] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#2211 [15:52] <aetherian> This channel has too many bots
#2212 [15:52] <g> Pssh
#2213 [15:52] <aetherian> they will take over the channel
#2214 [15:52] <g> I'm rewriting this one
#2215 [15:53] <bokaholic> It's not 2012 yet, dammit.
#2216 [15:53] <g> I'm going to attempt to amalgamate all the bots eventually
#2217 [15:53] <aetherian> oh man
#2218 [15:53] <aetherian> the one superbeing
#2219 [15:53] <g> Pretty much
#2220 [15:53] <g> And, it'll have no damn AI
#2221 [15:53] * g slaps VoxelHead around a bit with a large trout.
#2221 [15:53] <VoxelHead> Shut up.
#2222 [15:53] <bokaholic> lol
#2223 [15:53] <g> vox,s hut up
#2224 [15:53] <Morrolan> Hmm, it might be better to keep Minecraft related and non Minecraft related functions in separate bots though.
#2225 [15:53] <g> vox, shut up
#2226 [15:53] <g> *
#2227 [15:53] <VoxelHead> Nnk.
#2228 [15:53] <g> Mm, maybe
#2229 [15:54] <g> I wanted to just keep the useful stuff anyway
#2230 [15:56] <Morrolan> Oh, but you can't really want to not have Vox anymore?
#2231 [15:56] <Morrolan> Just imagine how boring it would be in here. ;)
#2232 [15:56] * bokaholic snf.
#2232 [15:56] <g> I can't stand that damn AI
#2233 [15:56] <bokaholic> Poor Vox.
#2234 [15:56] <mib_vfdibe> Morrolan: VICTORY!!!!!! It worked! Thanks a lot, thats been pissing me off for a week
#2235 [15:57] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#2236 [15:57] <g> Heh, I have an idea..
#2237 [15:59] <Thoatt> ok well... I guess I'm done with portal 2 for today...
#2238 [15:59] <Thoatt> time for some MC :D
#2239 [15:59] <g> You'll like this
#2240 [15:59] <g> if it works
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#2242 [16:00] <gTestBot> vox, shut up
#2243 [16:00] <Thoatt> as long as you say so :)
#2244 [16:00] * g hopes his timer works
#2244 [16:00] <g> We'll have to see :P
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#2246 [16:00] <Morrolan> Wait, your bot will actually tell him to shut up every few minutes now?
#2247 [16:00] <bokaholic> mmmm, MC..
#2248 [16:00] <g> Every seven minutes
#2249 [16:00] <g> lol
#2250 [16:00] <gTestBot> vox, shut up
#2251 [16:01] <g> as DG said it takes
#2252 [16:01] <VoxelHead> Fine.
#2253 [16:01] <g> what
#2254 [16:01] <Morrolan> Yea, seven minutes, suuure. :D
#2255 [16:01] <g> that was waaay too fast
#2256 [16:01] <g> it's in miliseconds
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#2258 [16:01] <g> lol
#2259 [16:01] <gTestBot> vox, shut up
#2260 [16:01] <Morrolan> Whoever made Vox will kill you. :D
#2261 [16:01] <g> that should do it
#2262 [16:01] <g> I divided it by 10 somehow
#2263 [16:01] <g> lol
#2264 [16:02] <g> we'll see if it works :P
#2265 [16:02] <Morrolan> You really don't like Vox, eh?
#2266 [16:02] <g> I just don't think the AI is appropriate in here :P
#2267 [16:02] <g> Nah, I'm only messing around
#2268 [16:02] <g> but it's a good test for timers
#2269 [16:02] <g> I need to make sure this one loops
#2270 [16:03] * bokaholic needs to find friends who use the Kik app. She wants to test it out.
#2270 [16:03] <bokaholic> Not that I'm.. Multi tasking or anything..
#2271 [16:03] <bokaholic> Right now..
#2272 [16:03] <bokaholic> No...
#2273 [16:03] <g> :P
#2274 [16:03] <g> Beyond Ynth iPhone version is free right now
#2275 [16:03] <g> I suggest you get it, bokaholic
#2276 [16:04] <bokaholic> Beyond?
#2277 [16:04] <g> :P
#2278 [16:04] <g> Beyong Ynth
#2279 [16:04] <bokaholic> What is it?
#2280 [16:04] <g> Beyond*
#2281 [16:04] <g> Game
#2282 [16:04] <g> it's awsome
#2283 [16:04] <g> :P
#2284 [16:04] <g> Lessee, around four mins left until it should fire again
#2285 [16:04] <Morrolan> Back in a second, the input box just got smaller and now half the letters are cut off. XD
#2286 [16:05] <g> xD
#2287 [16:05] <bokaholic> I'm addicted to the photo apps. I do photography as a serious hoby and i love being able to take shiet photos and share them..
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#2290 [16:05] <bokaholic> Far too hard on myself for 'real' photography.
#2291 [16:05] <g> shiet photos? :P
#2292 [16:05] <bokaholic> Yes.
#2293 [16:05] <g> what? xD
#2294 [16:05] <bokaholic> Shit. :) With an i-e-t.
#2295 [16:06] <g> xD
#2296 [16:06] <bokaholic> Think: Scottish.
#2297 [16:06] <g> 'kay
#2298 [16:06] <g> :P
#2299 [16:06] <bokaholic> Haha
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#2301 [16:06] <g> Two minutes
#2302 [16:07] * bokaholic gets a twitter explosion. @n@
#2302 [16:07] <g> :P
#2303 [16:07] <g> One minute..
#2304 [16:07] <g> (hopefully)
#2305 [16:08] <gTestBot> vox, shut up
#2306 [16:08] <g> ding!
#2307 [16:08] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#2308 [16:08] <g> Now I need to see if it does it again
#2309 [16:08] <g> MOAR WAITING
#2310 [16:08] <g> D:
#2311 [16:10] <g> mang0 is a fruit.
#2312 [16:10] <g> :D
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#2314 [16:11] <jimmybrite> Mango Five Alive
#2315 [16:11] <jimmybrite> hmmm
#2316 [16:12] <Morrolan> !isdown minecraftforum.net
#2317 [16:12] <g> Three minutes..
#2318 [16:12] <GreyBot> Morrolan: It's not just you! http://minecraftforum.net looks down from here.
#2319 [16:12] <Morrolan> Oh great.
#2320 [16:13] <g> :P
#2321 [16:13] <jimmybrite> is .com still up
#2322 [16:13] <g> there's a .com?
#2323 [16:13] <g> ~speak
#2324 [16:13] <jimmybrite> there was
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#2326 [16:13] <g> ~speak
#2327 [16:13] <jimmybrite> wasnt legit tho
#2328 [16:13] <g> http://minecraftforum.com
#2329 [16:13] <McPlusPlus> "Domain Auction - Domain Name Auction Site - Domain Aftermarket - Buy & Sell Domains - • Namecheap.com" at minecraftforum.com
#2330 [16:13] <jimmybrite> yeah closed now, was open last week, lol
#2331 [16:13] <g> there's your answer
#2332 [16:13] <g> :P
#2333 [16:13] <Kealper> lol
#2334 [16:13] <g> http://minecraftforum.new
#2335 [16:13] <jimmybrite> I just checked
#2336 [16:13] <McPlusPlus> <urlopen error [Errno -2] Name or service not known>
#2337 [16:14] <g> http://minecraftforum.net
#2338 [16:14] <McPlusPlus> HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable
#2339 [16:14] <g> 503 error
#2340 [16:14] <Morrolan> 502
#2341 [16:14] <g> ~stfu
#2342 [16:14] <jimmybrite> there was only like 20 posts in total, lol
#2343 [16:14] <g> It doesn't get it from the page
#2344 [16:14] <g> it gets it from the httpd status code
#2345 [16:14] <g> and it's returning a 503 :P
#2346 [16:14] <jimmybrite> it was obviously a scam to get passwords and such
#2347 [16:14] <Morrolan> And now it's even something completely different, SQl error.
#2348 [16:14] <Morrolan> haha, too many connections. XD
#2349 [16:14] <jimmybrite> it wont be the last
#2350 [16:14] <bread> lol
#2351 [16:14] <Kealper> O.o
#2352 [16:14] <g> One minute...
#2353 [16:14] <g> lolwut
#2354 [16:14] <bread> hahah
#2355 [16:15] <jimmybrite> that's why I change my password every now and again
#2356 [16:15] <g> here it comes, hopefully
#2357 [16:15] <gTestBot> vox, shut up
#2358 [16:15] <g> wheeeey
#2359 [16:15] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#2359 [16:15] <g> So my timer does work
#2360 [16:15] * g is happy with his timer now
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#2361 [16:15] <g> Y'arr
#2362 [16:15] <g> Avast, me hearty!
#2363 [16:16] <g> lol
#2364 [16:16] <Kealper> i is hungreh
#2365 [16:17] <Morrolan> Ok, Curse should know about it by now I guess.
#2366 [16:19] <Vector> ok so
#2367 [16:19] <g> rofl, http://is.gd/qQVVl6
#2368 [16:19] <Vector> supposed fix for lag by 1.5 failed me
#2369 [16:19] <g> "Minecraft: Makes children sex slaves and destroys our economy! - The Landover Baptist Church Forum"
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#2371 [16:24] <Morrolan> g: Wut?
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#2374 [16:24] <Morrolan> Oh, that's a parody site, right?
#2375 [16:24] <mib_qprzov> hey guys, nayone know why MC wont run on OSX 10.5.8 ?
#2376 [16:24] <g> Morrolan: No, it isn't
#2377 [16:24] <g> lol
#2378 [16:24] <g> It's a Baptist site
#2379 [16:24] <g> Now you see why Anonymous attacked the westboro baptist church's sites :P
#2380 [16:25] <Piratebaywatch> It IS a parody site
#2381 [16:25] <Kealper> landover baptist is not real
#2382 [16:25] <Kealper> what Piratebaywatch said
#2383 [16:25] <g> they seem to take it pretty seriously
#2384 [16:25] <Morrolan> Hell no, just look at the forum ranks and stuff. ;)
#2385 [16:26] <Morrolan> "Trying to out-Methuselah Methuselah"
#2386 [16:26] <Morrolan> aaand this:
#2387 [16:26] <g> lol
#2388 [16:26] <Morrolan> !Wiki Landover Baptist Church
#2389 [16:26] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church
#2390 [16:26] <GreyBot> The Landover Baptist Church is a fictional Baptist church based in the fictional town of Freehold, Iowa. The Landover Baptist web site and its associated Landoverbaptist.net Forum are a satire of fundamentalist Christianity and the Religious Right in the United States.
#2391 [16:26] <g> xD
#2392 [16:26] <g> fair enough
#2393 [16:27] <aetherian> it's an idiotic site that makes fun of the christian religion, if you ask me.
#2394 [16:27] <g> Well, good
#2395 [16:27] <Morrolan> It's a site which makes fun of extreme christian positions if you ask me.
#2396 [16:27] <g> the christian religion needs some fixing up imo
#2397 [16:27] <g> but let's not get into that
#2398 [16:27] <Morrolan> Not of the religion as a whole.
#2399 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#2400 [16:27] <Kealper> indeed, religion is a can of worms i'd rather not have opened in this channel
#2401 [16:27] <g> ^
#2402 [16:28] <aetherian> guys!
#2403 [16:28] <aetherian> cake!
#2404 [16:28] <Morrolan> Completely unrelated: Forum is up again.
#2405 [16:28] <g> Cake? CAKE?
#2406 [16:28] <g> :P
#2407 [16:28] <aetherian> :D
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#2409 [16:28] <g> NO
#2410 [16:28] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2411 [16:28] <g> POTATO
#2412 [16:28] <g> POTATO IS TEH WAY!
#2413 [16:28] <aetherian> no potato!
#2414 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> potatos in spaaaace?
#2415 [16:28] <Tetyys> No!
#2416 [16:28] <g> SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE!
#2417 [16:28] <g> damn
#2418 [16:28] <g> lol
#2419 [16:28] <VoxelHead> Hurrah.
#2420 [16:28] <Piratebaywatch> Because i'm a potato
#2421 [16:28] <Piratebaywatch> *slow clap*
#2422 [16:29] <g> Piratebaywatch is GLaDOS?
#2423 [16:29] <Kealper> :O
#2424 [16:29] <g> GLaDOS.. in a potato
#2425 [16:29] <VoxelHead> i say
#2426 [16:29] <VoxelHead> I say, erm...
#2427 [16:29] <g> yes, good sir?
#2428 [16:29] <VoxelHead> For great justic.
#2429 [16:29] <aetherian> haha
#2430 [16:29] <g> dope is back eh :P
#2431 [16:29] <aetherian> or IS he
#2432 [16:29] <Tetyys> �
#2433 [16:29] <aetherian> DUN DUN DUN
#2434 [16:29] <g> only one way to find out
#2435 [16:29] <g> vox, be quiet
#2436 [16:29] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#2437 [16:30] * g slaps AuBot around a bit with a large trout.
#2437 [16:30] <Kealper> how...on earth are you tripping that?
#2438 [16:30] <Tetyys> ?
#2439 [16:30] <g> I have no idea lol
#2440 [16:30] <aetherian> fail, kealper
#2441 [16:30] <aetherian> first the fail !check
#2442 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> AuBot hates you
#2443 [16:30] <aetherian> now this D:
#2444 [16:30] <g> Might have something to do with having seven connections on this IP
#2445 [16:30] <g> :P
#2446 [16:30] <Kealper> you don't appear to be lagging on my end
#2447 [16:31] <Kealper> !status
#2448 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Nor here
#2449 [16:31] <g> I'm not, I hope
#2450 [16:31] <g> here: http://i.imgur.com/wmh7J.png
#2451 [16:31] <Kealper> 97ms ping to the server.....i have no idea x.x
#2452 [16:31] <g> Yes, the idend doesn't work for me
#2453 [16:31] <g> xD
#2454 [16:31] <Kealper> if it does it again i'll unload the nospam module
#2455 [16:31] <g> identd*
#2456 [16:31] <g> The server has its own antispam
#2457 [16:31] <Tetyys> Um... Guys... This is minecraft help not potato war.
#2458 [16:31] <g> lo
#2459 [16:31] <g> lol*
#2460 [16:31] <aetherian> Tetyys: lies!
#2461 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> It is?
#2462 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> News to me
#2463 [16:32] <Tetyys> No!
#2464 [16:32] <Kealper> :O
#2465 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Guess I've been in the wrong channel for months now
#2466 [16:32] <Tetyys> :D
#2467 [16:32] <Kealper> ^
#2468 [16:33] <Tetyys> Did you know that iam chatting on irc with my phone?
#2469 [16:34] <Kealper> many people are :/
#2470 [16:34] <Kealper> colliquy or however that is spelled is a rather popular mobile irc client
#2471 [16:35] <Tetyys> Mine is wirelessirc on symbgan
#2472 [16:35] <Tetyys> Symbian*
#2473 [16:37] <Tetyys> Its colloquy
#2474 [16:38] <Kealper> meh, i was close
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#2482 [16:44] <wH> Hello U:
#2483 [16:45] <Tetyys> Halo
#2484 [16:45] <TheNytangel> Edgless safty cube!
#2485 [16:45] <VoxelHead> saftyless Edg
#2486 [16:45] <wH> Is this where I can complain when my graphics driver crashes when I play minecraft U:
#2487 [16:46] <Tetyys> ?
#2488 [16:46] <wH> I play minecraft and then all my monitors go black for a bit.
#2489 [16:46] <wH> And it bluescreened once.
#2490 [16:46] <wH> It has never done that before, just started today.
#2491 [16:48] <Tetyys> Minecraft is evil!
#2492 [16:48] <Tetyys> Evil!
#2493 [16:49] <bread> lol
#2494 [16:49] <wH> Java is evil.
#2495 [16:49] <wH> What do I do.
#2496 [16:49] <Kealper> reinstall graphics drivers? :/
#2497 [16:50] <Tetyys> Reinstall java
#2498 [16:50] <wH> Tetyys, walk me through it, the last time I messed with Java installations everything went very wrong.
#2499 [16:51] <Tetyys> Dont mess it
#2500 [16:51] <wH> I don't know how
#2501 [16:51] <Tetyys> Just delete bsod file from system
#2502 [16:52] <Tetyys> Iam joking.
#2503 [16:52] <wH> I don't know what ; ~ ;
#2504 [16:52] <Tetyys> Download java from official page
#2505 [16:53] <wH> Done I think
#2506 [16:53] <Tetyys> And install
#2507 [16:53] <wH> Also done
#2508 [16:53] <Tetyys> Wait
#2509 [16:53] <wH> waiting
#2510 [16:53] <Tetyys> After black screen what happens?
#2511 [16:54] <wH> The driver turns back on and tells me it resolved the issue
#2512 [16:54] <wH> and minecraft has crashed
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#2514 [16:54] <wH> Sometimes it does not.
#2515 [16:54] <Tetyys> After bsod?
#2516 [16:55] <wH> That only happened once.
#2517 [16:55] <wH> Then it just restarted
#2518 [16:55] <Tetyys> Computer restarted?
#2519 [16:55] <wH> Yes.
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#2521 [16:56] <dikdik> http://i.imgur.com/JeOql.jpg
#2522 [16:56] <Tetyys> Try to reinstall minecraft
#2523 [16:56] <Tetyys> Or something
#2524 [16:56] <wH> ...how U:
#2525 [16:56] <Tetyys> You have bought minecraft?
#2526 [16:57] <wH> Yes
#2527 [16:57] <Tetyys> Its in your computer?
#2528 [16:57] <wH> It is.
#2529 [16:57] * Kealper kicked dikdik from #minecrafthelp (Reason: dikdik)
#2530 [16:57] <Tetyys> Then delete .exe
#2531 [16:58] <wH> Seriously? U:
#2532 [16:58] <Tetyys> Download .exe
#2533 [16:58] <wH> How will that help?
#2534 [16:58] <wH> Unless there's some really minor update that I missed...?
#2535 [16:58] <Tetyys> Maybe .exe has corupted
#2536 [16:59] <Tetyys> Maybe
#2537 [16:59] <wH> P specific corrupt
#2538 [16:59] <Tetyys> ?
#2539 [17:00] <wH> As far as I know, normally when a file gets corrupt you can't even open it
#2540 [17:00] <Tetyys> I can
#2541 [17:01] <Tetyys> I once have corrupted opera mini file on phone and i just cant open webpages
#2542 [17:02] <Tetyys> Um...
#2543 [17:03] <wH> One moment
#2544 [17:03] <wH> Explaining someone how to start a redstone heart that I made.
#2545 [17:04] <Tetyys> Redstone heart?
#2546 [17:04] <wH> Redstone with a pulse.
#2547 [17:04] <Tetyys> What is this
#2548 [17:05] <wH> If you want to look at it you will have to go in my server and start it.
#2549 [17:05] <wH> My ad hoc server that has the sp map copied in it just for that.
#2550 [17:05] <Tetyys> I am not on pc
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#2552 [17:05] <wH> oh, damn
#2553 [17:06] <wH> Whelp, here goes
#2554 [17:06] <Tetyys> And i haven't bought minecraft
#2555 [17:06] <wH> judas
#2556 [17:06] <wH> Its offline mode
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#2558 [17:07] <Dreamshark> can someone assist me with minecraft server help?
#2559 [17:07] <Kealper> what sort of help?
#2560 [17:08] <Dreamshark> i cant figure out why i could connect to my server one day and now i cant
#2561 [17:08] <wH> 127.0.0.1
#2562 [17:08] <Dreamshark> thought it was cuz of the update so i deleted my whole level and tried to start from scratch (i have no idea how to update a server) and it still doesnt work
#2563 [17:09] <wH> To update a server just download the .exe from the site
#2564 [17:09] <Tetyys> Yeah
#2565 [17:09] <Dreamshark> i did and i still cant connect ><
#2566 [17:10] <Dreamshark> thought it might have been a port issue so i forwarded the port and still a no go
#2567 [17:10] <Tetyys> What .exe you downloaded?
#2568 [17:10] <wH> MC hasnt crashed so far
#2569 [17:10] <Tetyys> Server .exe or minecraft?
#2570 [17:10] <VoxelHead> not without lubricant
#2571 [17:10] <Tetyys> Magic!
#2572 [17:11] <Dreamshark> minecraft server.jar
#2573 [17:11] <Tetyys> Try download minecraft
#2574 [17:11] <Dreamshark> the .exe one on the multiplayer page?
#2575 [17:12] <Tetyys> Mhm
#2576 [17:12] <Tetyys> I guess
#2577 [17:13] <Tetyys> I think minecraft server have's more tiant just .exe file
#2578 [17:13] <Dreamshark> cant use the .exe one
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#2580 [17:13] <testus> Speak of the devil
#2581 [17:13] <Dreamshark> says that it cant find what needs to run it... the .jar one is the only one that i can use
#2582 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> What's the error you get with the .exe one?
#2583 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com it?
#2584 [17:14] <wH> So what now?
#2585 [17:14] <Dreamshark> pastebin?
#2586 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> yeah, pastebin.com
#2587 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> website lets users paste large amounts of text to share with others.
#2588 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Prevents flooding in IRC channels like this one.
#2589 [17:16] <wH> Grey help
#2590 [17:16] <Tetyys> Who heard about nyan cat?
#2591 [17:16] <wH> you too tetyys
#2592 [17:16] <bokaholic> Nooo nyan.
#2593 [17:16] <Tetyys> Grey help?
#2594 [17:16] <wH> Yes. Help.
#2595 [17:16] <Tetyys> Nyan RULES
#2596 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2597 [17:16] <Tetyys> Grey
#2598 [17:17] <Tetyys> ?
#2599 [17:17] <wH> Minecraft either crashes graphics driver or causes bluescreen what do.
#2600 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us any more information? Do you get any sort of error report, or blue screen of death text you can share with us?
#2601 [17:18] <Tetyys> Try play it throught minecraft website
#2602 [17:18] <Dreamshark> sooo atm, i cant use the minecraft.exe link because when i dl it it says that it cant find the file type it runs as, the .jar one i can dl but it times out when i try to use it
#2603 [17:18] <wH> Screen goes black.
#2604 [17:18] <wH> If I am lucky the driver starts up again and minecraft has crashed with a black window.
#2605 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Dreamshark - What operating system are you running?
#2606 [17:18] <wH> If I am not lucky its bluescreen and restart before I can read any
#2607 [17:18] <Dreamshark> windows 7
#2608 [17:19] <Tetyys> Wh try play minecraft throught website
#2609 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Dreamshark - Weird, it should be able to run .exe files just fine
#2610 [17:19] <wH> Okay
#2611 [17:19] <Dreamshark> it cant... says it cant find the file type lol, when i get the .jar one it works fine
#2612 [17:19] <wH> Use .jar?
#2613 [17:20] <Dreamshark> but it times out with the .jar and it didnt before
#2614 [17:20] <Dreamshark> so the problem of actually connecting to my own server persists
#2615 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Dreamshark - And you got the 1.5_02 server, running with the 1.5_01 client?
#2616 [17:20] <Dreamshark> i updated my game, and dl'd the newest .jar... so i guess?
#2617 [17:20] <Tetyys> So wh?
#2618 [17:21] <wH> Nothing yet
#2619 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Dreamshark - How exactly are you launching the server.jar?
#2620 [17:21] <Tetyys> Double click?
#2621 [17:21] <Dreamshark> i open the server exe from a folder thats by itself to make the world files in one place
#2622 [17:22] <Tetyys> OH MY GOD ITS MIDNIGHT
#2623 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. are you using the .exe or the .jar?
#2624 [17:22] <Dreamshark> so i have the .jar in a folder with the world it made
#2625 [17:22] <Dreamshark> .jar srry lol
#2626 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> How did you open the .jar?
#2627 [17:22] <Dreamshark> its the .jar exe thing
#2628 [17:22] <Dreamshark> it opened it as an exe rofl
#2629 [17:22] <Dreamshark> i guess?
#2630 [17:22] <wH> ruffle
#2631 [17:22] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2631 [17:22] <Dreamshark> im not entirley sure tbh....
#2632 [17:23] <Dreamshark> i just know i can open it
#2633 [17:23] <Dreamshark> it saves it as an executable jar file
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#2635 [17:23] <Dreamshark> and works
#2636 [17:23] <frogaincia> heyy, erm why is it whenever i go to bed a mob spawns and then kills me?
#2637 [17:23] <Tetyys> So whats the problem?
#2638 [17:24] <Dreamshark> to give u an idea of how annoying this issue is i dl'd mirc for this problem only lol
#2639 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - read: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#2640 [17:24] <frogaincia> i have read the wiki
#2641 [17:24] <lemon-rev> frogaincia dont put beds near walls
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#2643 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Dreamshark - Did you get the server from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp ?
#2644 [17:25] <frogaincia> my room has as might light as possible, its in the middle of the room and a MOB spawns D:
#2645 [17:25] <Dreamshark> so i cleared out the world folder, i saved the .jar file in it from the site, i open it and it makes the new world, i open minecraft to connect to it, and i time out every time
#2646 [17:25] <wH> no crash yet
#2647 [17:25] <frogaincia> *bed is in the middle of the room
#2648 [17:25] <Dreamshark> and yes i did
#2649 [17:25] <Tetyys> Wh, it don't gave black screen?
#2650 [17:25] <wH> Nope, works fine
#2651 [17:26] <Tetyys> Oh
#2652 [17:26] <Tetyys> Then its problem with your downloaded minecraft
#2653 [17:26] <lemon-rev> frogaincia is there an opening at all, anywhre leading outside thats not blocked off
#2654 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Dreamshark - How are you trying to connect to your server? With what IP?
#2655 [17:26] <Tetyys> Not java, not drivers
#2656 [17:26] <Dreamshark> my normal ip? lol
#2657 [17:26] <frogaincia> secure room with doors
#2658 [17:27] <Dreamshark> i got to whatsmyip.org and use that one...
#2659 [17:27] <wH> You mean even after I re-downloaded it?
#2660 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Dreamshark - Your external IP?
#2661 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward?
#2662 [17:27] <wH> Dreamshark use 127.0.0.1
#2663 [17:27] <Dreamshark> i think i did yea
#2664 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Could you try 127.0.0.1
#2665 [17:27] <wH> ha beat you to it
#2666 [17:28] <Dreamshark> wtf?
#2667 [17:28] <Dreamshark> lol
#2668 [17:28] <Tetyys> You re-downloaded only .exe?
#2669 [17:28] <Dreamshark> how did that work?
#2670 [17:28] <Dreamshark> ><
#2671 [17:28] <Dreamshark> *facepalm*
#2672 [17:28] <Dreamshark> how did you guys no that? lol
#2673 [17:28] <frogaincia> anyone have any ideas?
#2674 [17:29] <Tetyys> Dont sleep :D
#2675 [17:29] <frogaincia> true, but then whats the point in beds
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#2677 [17:30] <Tetyys> To kill yourself
#2678 [17:30] <Tetyys> Its fun
#2679 [17:30] <SPaRT> hi ladies & gentlemen
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#2681 [17:30] <wH> hey guess what
#2682 [17:30] <Tetyys> What?
#2683 [17:31] <wH> Guess three times.
#2684 [17:31] <SPaRT> you are pregnant?
#2685 [17:31] <Dreamshark> grey how did u know that my ip was the issue? lol
#2686 [17:31] <SPaRT> *1.
#2687 [17:31] <wH> Close but no.
#2688 [17:31] <Tetyys> You throwed your pc throught window
#2689 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Educated guess
#2690 [17:31] <wH> Another crash :3
#2691 [17:31] <Tetyys> On web?
#2692 [17:31] <Dreamshark> lol well educate me... how can i check for future reference?
#2693 [17:32] <SPaRT> does somebody have an idea why a button won't work with doubledoors and open just 1 door?
#2694 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1 is a loopback address, it always points back to the computer it's run on
#2695 [17:32] <Tetyys> Lol
#2696 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> The public ip will always go out and back through your modem and router.
#2697 [17:32] <wH> Some idiot with the IP 127.0.0.1 tried hacking my computer. I'm gonna spam his address
#2698 [17:33] <Tetyys> Wtf wh
#2699 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> If there's anything blocking it, either from the router, or on your computer, you'll get an error of some sort.
#2700 [17:33] <wH> haha jokes
#2701 [17:33] <VoxelHead> Shouldn't you be frying something?
#2702 [17:33] <Tetyys> :D
#2703 [17:33] <wH> So, the crash
#2704 [17:33] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2705 [17:33] * bread fries vox
#2705 [17:33] * VoxelHead . o O ( ? )
#2705 [17:33] <Dreamshark> sooo if i want someone to connect to my server do they use that or do i give them the one from whatsmyip.net?
#2706 [17:33] <SPaRT> my doubledoors do not open correctly
#2707 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip
#2708 [17:34] <SPaRT> with the use of a button
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#2710 [17:34] <Dreamshark> mmk ty
#2711 [17:34] <wH> Could it have something to do with the fact that there is a lot of redstone?
#2712 [17:34] <SPaRT> on the other side there's a pressure plate that works fine
#2713 [17:34] <Tetyys> Do 1 door
#2714 [17:34] <Dreamshark> is there a reason it didnt work on mine?
#2715 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Haven't figured that out yet Dreamshark
#2716 [17:34] <Dreamshark> oh ffs ><
#2717 [17:34] <Dreamshark> lol
#2718 [17:34] <Fspy> Anyone having any issues with the new mod loader?
#2719 [17:34] <wH> I do. It exists.
#2720 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Fspy - You'll need to get in contact with #risucraft
#2721 [17:35] <Tetyys> Playin' minecraft classic
#2722 [17:35] <wH> arr me booty
#2723 [17:36] <Tetyys> Quitin' chat
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#2725 [17:36] <Fspy> ok so only questions about the "core" part of the game and nothing mod wise?
#2726 [17:36] <wH> Well now who's going to tell me how to solve my violent crashes
#2727 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Fspy - You can ask questions about mods here, it's just, #risucraft is the one responsible for mod loader..
#2728 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> The devs for it are there, so you'll get better luck asking there
#2729 [17:37] <wH> We do not approve modifications, for the mod loader is the plugin of the beast.
#2730 [17:37] <Fspy> alrighty
#2731 [17:38] <wH> begone unholy one
#2732 [17:38] * GreyVulpine baps wH
#2732 [17:39] <Fspy> I've been playing about a week or so and the game is pretty fun. I have just about finished my own 128x128 texture pack and I play with a few friends, but it seems like all the good mods are single player mode only, is there any worth anything that brings things content wise to the game?
#2733 [17:39] <wH> :V
#2734 [17:39] <VoxelHead> french fries of course!
#2735 [17:39] <Dreamshark> one more question, how can u use a seed on a minecraft server?
#2736 [17:39] <floatereater> there is an extra mobs mod
#2737 [17:39] <wH> properties file
#2738 [17:43] <Dreamshark> wH were u talking to me?
#2739 [17:43] <wH> Yes
#2740 [17:43] <Dreamshark> oh lol how do i do it?
#2741 [17:43] <wH> Open the server properties file and there you will see a seed option
#2742 [17:43] <wH> "level-seed="
#2743 [17:45] <Dreamshark> server propteries? i dont even see that ><
#2744 [17:45] <wH> server.properties
#2745 [17:45] <wH> its a file in the same dir as the server exe
#2746 [17:46] <Dreamshark> nvm i figured it out >< god im retarded
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#2748 [17:48] <wH> Someone solve my crash I don't want to be productive today I want to explore my autism
#2749 [17:48] <Xostean> Anyone know why minecraft looks like this when i start it up http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m110/gtgoskate/DSC00429.jpg
#2750 [17:48] <Xostean> whoops
#2751 [17:49] <Xostean> wrong link
#2752 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Player 2: Things are looking very bronze.
#2753 [17:49] <Xostean> http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/Loogie82/M4.jpg
#2754 [17:49] <Xostean> http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/Loogie82/m2.jpg
#2755 [17:49] <wH> ew chrome
#2756 [17:49] <DreadLindwyrm> Looks like you've messed up your textures
#2757 [17:50] <wH> Looks fine to me
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#2759 [17:50] <Xostean> any way to fix it? it looks like that no matter if i start it with the dled version or online version
#2760 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Whoa, trippy.
#2761 [17:50] <wH> Open explorer
#2762 [17:51] <wH> then go to %appdata%/.minecraft
#2763 [17:51] <wH> and find the texture file
#2764 [17:51] <wH> then delete it.
#2765 [17:51] <wH> Ir back up your saves and delete the entire folder.
#2766 [17:51] <wH> Or*
#2767 [17:51] <wH> The latter is probably a better idea.
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#2769 [17:52] <Xostean> already tried to delete the folder
#2770 [17:52] <Xostean> did no use
#2771 [17:52] <wH> Remove mods
#2772 [17:52] <Xostean> No mods, its a fresh install
#2773 [17:52] <Xostean> literally bought the game and started it up and thats what happened
#2774 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Xostean - I'd look into reinstalling java, and updating your video drivers first off
#2775 [17:53] <wH> Okay, here's what you do. You find a goat skull some herbs...
#2776 [17:53] <bread> then bring us a shrubbery
#2777 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> wH, if you're not going to help at all, the door's that way... --->
#2778 [17:54] <wH> I helped as far as I knew. I'm still here because I still have issues.
#2779 [17:54] <wH> as much*
#2780 [17:54] <Xostean> I will attempt that grey, the video card is already fully updated but havent re-installed java yet
#2781 [17:55] <wH> Xos, be careful with java installations, I messed it up once and then it was hell
#2782 [17:57] <Xostean> Hey grey just reinstalled java
#2783 [17:57] <Xostean> same issue
#2784 [17:57] <_303> ?? reinst/lwjgl
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#2786 [17:58] <Xostean> any ideas because im out of them lol
#2787 [17:59] <_303> could try updating lwjgl
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#2789 [17:59] <Xostean> what is lwjgl?
#2790 [17:59] <wH> light-weight java gl?
#2791 [18:00] <wH> damn I was close
#2792 [18:00] <wH> http://lwjgl.org/update/
#2793 [18:01] <Dreamshark> so i gave my friend my ip from whatsmyip.org and he cant connect to my server... ideas?
#2794 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Dreamshark - Double check your port forward settings
#2795 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it still points to the right ip address
#2796 [18:01] <Dreamshark> what do u mean?
#2797 [18:02] <Dreamshark> oh btw i figured out what ip i should have been using ^.^
#2798 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Make sure your port forwarding setting points to the right internal ip address
#2799 [18:06] <wH> god im tired...
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#2801 [18:12] <wHelv> Someone say "wHelv"
#2802 [18:12] <aetherian> wHel not gonna do it
#2803 [18:13] <wHelv> Or don't, I'm going to go to bed
#2804 [18:13] <wHelv> good night irc
#2805 [18:15] <Xostean> Once again does anyone have a solution to this problem
#2806 [18:15] <Xostean> http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/Loogie82/m2.jpg
#2807 [18:15] <Xostean> http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/Loogie82/M4.jpg
#2808 [18:15] <aetherian> those mobs look awesome
#2809 [18:15] <aetherian> why wouldn't you want that
#2810 [18:15] <wHelv> Take out the cardridge and then blow on it and put it back in, okay going for real now
#2811 [18:16] <aetherian> ^
#2812 [18:16] <Xostean> because the UI is a cluster fuck lol
#2813 [18:16] <aetherian> I'd try reinstalling it myself
#2814 [18:17] <Xostean> trust me ive tried lol
#2815 [18:17] <aetherian> oh?
#2816 [18:17] <aetherian> you deleted the bin then. okay.
#2817 [18:17] <TheNytangel> :o
#2818 [18:17] <VoxelHead> sacrebleu!
#2819 [18:17] <TheNytangel> F11 makes MC full screen?
#2820 [18:18] * Dreamshark [Dreamshark@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2821 [18:18] <Dreamshark> anyone have a seed that is mostly flat?
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#2823 [18:18] <Morrolan> Y
#2824 [18:18] <Morrolan> Yep*
#2825 [18:18] <Dreamshark> what is it?
#2826 [18:18] <Morrolan> Euhm, yep to Nytangel
#2827 [18:18] <Morrolan> Sorry.
#2828 [18:18] <TheNytangel> i never knew that
#2829 [18:18] <Morrolan> :D
#2830 [18:19] <VoxelHead> =]
#2831 [18:19] <bread> :>
#2832 [18:19] <Dreamshark> sooo anyone know a good flat seed?
#2833 [18:19] <Morrolan> There was a guy yesterday who asked me wheter it's possible to go fullscreen, and when I told him that it's F11 he didn't belive me. XD
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#2835 [18:20] <Morrolan> Dreamshark: Hmm, already tried to google for something like "minecraft seed flat map"
#2836 [18:20] <Morrolan> Or well, if you don't mind it being completely flat you could always use a flatgrass map. But I guess that's not what you need.
#2837 [18:20] * mib_fhxkeb [mib_fhxkeb@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2838 [18:20] <Dreamshark> one more dumb question, how can u change spawning location?
#2839 [18:20] <aetherian> buy getting a bed
#2840 [18:20] <aetherian> and sleeping in it
#2841 [18:21] <bread> nappy time!
#2842 [18:21] <Dreamshark> any other way?
#2843 [18:22] <Morrolan> DreamShark: Use MCedit, NBTEdit, Loleditor or similar
#2844 [18:22] <mib_fhxkeb> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.5_02 [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 82.116.88.31:25565 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT! [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#2845 [18:22] <mib_fhxkeb> im
#2846 [18:22] <mib_fhxkeb> getting
#2847 [18:22] <Morrolan> And for your seed try this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=241620#p3437274
#2848 [18:22] <mib_fhxkeb> that error message
#2849 [18:22] <mib_fhxkeb> when i try to host my server
#2850 [18:22] <mib_fhxkeb> how can i fix it?
#2851 [18:23] <Morrolan> Have a nice day all, gotta go sleeping.
#2852 [18:24] <VoxelHead> Bye mib_fhxkeb.
#2853 [18:25] <minilulleN> how to regist?
#2854 [18:25] <minilulleN> reg*
#2855 [18:28] <aetherian> register?
#2856 [18:28] <aetherian> as in to talk in #Minecraft?
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#2858 [18:50] <Twanaa> Hello?
#2859 [18:50] <Twanaa> nvm brb
#2860 [18:50] <gPad2002> Lol.
#2861 [18:51] <gPad2002> OK then
#2862 [18:54] <VoxelHead> Mmm Kurimus.
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#2865 [18:58] <Twanaa> Hello?
#2866 [18:58] <Twanaa> I have got a quistion
#2867 [18:58] <Twanaa> Question*.
#2868 [18:59] <Twanaa> May i ask? If someone is here?
#2869 [18:59] <aetherian> ??> Twanaa ask
#2870 [18:59] <VoxelHead> Twanaa: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2871 [18:59] <VoxelHead> Twanaa: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2872 [18:59] <Twanaa> I need help
#2873 [19:00] <aetherian> .___________.
#2874 [19:00] <Twanaa> My sister has client alpha 1.2.6, and i got Beta 1.5_01, and which one is faster on my pc?
#2875 [19:00] <aetherian> um
#2876 [19:00] <aetherian> wait wait
#2877 [19:00] <aetherian> they didn't have that back then...
#2878 [19:00] <Twanaa> ?
#2879 [19:01] <aetherian> she must be pirating...?
#2880 [19:01] <Thoatt[Work]> err...
#2881 [19:01] <aetherian> bye thoatt
#2882 [19:01] <Thoatt|Work> cya peeps
#2883 [19:01] <aetherian> nonono
#2884 [19:01] <aetherian> the peeps come tomorrow
#2885 [19:01] <aetherian> silly
#2886 [19:01] <Twanaa> Yes, becouse she has a very very very bad pc and she thinks that 1.5_01 has more lag.
#2887 [19:02] <NinjaKirby> You can bodge Torches onto stuff like Work Benches, is it possible to do Ladders onto Glass in any similar manner?
#2888 [19:02] <aetherian> Yeah, there's a pretty good chance that what she's doing is legally and morally wrong.
#2889 [19:02] <Twanaa> I got 2 GB of ram, Chipset graphics card and Intel celeron CPU2.80Ghz
#2890 [19:03] <aetherian> you're asking which is faster, out of an illegal copy and a legal copy
#2891 [19:03] <aetherian> obviously the latter is faster, and even if not, the first one is pirated.
#2892 [19:03] <Twanaa> But what is better on that pc 1.5_01 on 1.2.6 alpha?
#2893 [19:03] <aetherian> dammit man
#2894 [19:03] <aetherian> you're missing the point
#2895 [19:03] <aetherian> guards!
#2896 [19:03] <bokaholic> Kealper? Question about making a prettier welcome text thing.. :)
#2897 [19:03] <NinjaKirby> First one probably has a Trojan as well, enjoy your virus'
#2898 [19:04] <Twanaa> I dont have i virus, i got it from kaen paradise...
#2899 [19:04] <NinjaKirby> Aetherian, is that a reference to Ultima Online? XD
#2900 [19:04] <Kealper> bokaholic: hmm?
#2901 [19:04] <aetherian> no, ninja
#2902 [19:04] <NinjaKirby> Awww, shame
#2903 [19:04] <aetherian> ah, kealper
#2904 [19:04] <aetherian> you got my call then \o/
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#2906 [19:04] <Kealper> aetherian: wut
#2907 [19:04] <Twanaa> but if the legal 1.5_01 is faster then we install that one....
#2908 [19:04] <bokaholic> Just wondering on the flashy text and the starter kit thing. Is there a site to get info on about it?
#2909 [19:05] <Kealper> bokaholic: it's done with a wrapper program that i made
#2910 [19:05] <aetherian> <aetherian> guards!
#2911 [19:05] <dopeghoti> dammit
#2912 [19:05] <aetherian> ^that was my call
#2913 [19:05] <dopeghoti> stop raining so that the monsters will burn so that I can scout out how large this site can be
#2914 [19:05] <Kealper> lol
#2915 [19:06] <aetherian> can tnt explode in rain?
#2916 [19:06] <Kealper> yes
#2917 [19:06] <dopeghoti> I do not have any sulphur at the moment
#2918 [19:06] <Twanaa> Why are u saying "Guards!" ?
#2919 [19:06] <aetherian> because of you
#2920 [19:06] <aetherian> and two guards came
#2921 [19:06] <aetherian> I yell loud
#2922 [19:07] <Kealper> aetherian: speaking of that, was there something you needed? lol
#2923 [19:07] <aetherian> can't you read up yourself?
#2924 [19:07] <aetherian> :|
#2925 [19:07] <Twanaa> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
#2926 [19:07] <Kealper> psh, ofcourse not
#2927 [19:08] <Kealper> numerous people have seen performance increases using 1.5 and 1.5_01
#2928 [19:08] <aetherian> that...
#2929 [19:08] <aetherian> ow...
#2930 [19:08] <Twanaa> yes, but i didnt saw any diffrence between them.
#2931 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> On a whole, I find it's a smoother experience with 1.5
#2932 [19:09] <aetherian> He's asking which is better, some pirated alpha client, or the beta client, for those of you who are wondering what's happening
#2933 [19:09] <Kealper> the legit beta client, obviously
#2934 [19:09] <Kealper> beta is going to have far more bugs fixed
#2935 [19:10] <Kealper> and more features
#2936 [19:10] <dopeghoti> and less legal issues
#2937 [19:10] <Twanaa> yesyes yes but i dont have a supper pc, u know
#2938 [19:10] <dopeghoti> and more likeliness for us to actually help
#2939 [19:10] <Twanaa> and i want to know which one is smoother
#2940 [19:10] <aetherian> .____________., twanaa
#2941 [19:10] <NinjaKirby> I call Troll now, jesus christ
#2942 [19:10] <Kealper> so buy the game and find out
#2943 [19:10] <dopeghoti> for the record, with my CPU scaled to 800MHz, I currently get 200FPS or better.
#2944 [19:10] <Twanaa> I HAVE THE GAME
#2945 [19:10] <NinjaKirby> How can you be that selectively reading without intention
#2946 [19:11] <aetherian> holy
#2947 [19:11] <aetherian> 200fps?
#2948 [19:11] <Twanaa> i bought when in alpha version for 10euro
#2949 [19:11] <Kealper> Twanaa: so...why not just try for yourself? :/
#2950 [19:11] <dopeghoti> aetherian: right now, indoors, in a small mine, I'm getting 400FPS
#2951 [19:11] <Twanaa> ??
#2952 [19:11] <aetherian> what kind of gpu do you have?
#2953 [19:11] <Twanaa> What?
#2954 [19:11] <Twanaa> I have a chipset
#2955 [19:11] <dopeghoti> Nvidia
#2956 [19:11] <Twanaa> no GPU card as far as i know
#2957 [19:11] <Twanaa> wait
#2958 [19:11] <aetherian> how much video memory, dope?
#2959 [19:12] <dopeghoti> checking
#2960 [19:12] <aetherian> how much video memory, dope?
#2961 [19:12] <aetherian> a=dammit
#2962 [19:12] * dopeghoti waits for hwinfo to complete running
#2962 [19:12] <aetherian> sorry, I really need to disable that somehow
#2963 [19:12] <Twanaa> A family chipset
#2964 [19:12] <Twanaa> 2gb
#2965 [19:12] <Twanaa> ram
#2966 [19:12] <Kealper> ._>
#2967 [19:12] * aetherian hates the press up feature on clients
#2967 [19:12] <Kealper> ._.*
#2968 [19:12] <Kealper> i love it
#2969 [19:12] <Kealper> i love it
#2970 [19:12] <aetherian> I do not.
#2971 [19:12] <aetherian> I don't.
#2972 [19:13] * bread presses up
#2972 [19:13] * bread presses up
#2972 [19:13] <Kealper> lol
#2973 [19:13] <bread> 8D
#2974 [19:15] <Twanaa> sd,m.f.ad,smfma,sfgfgf
#2975 [19:15] <Twanaa> fdsg
#2976 [19:15] <Twanaa> fdsg
#2977 [19:15] <Twanaa> sdfg
#2978 [19:15] <Twanaa> sdf
#2979 [19:15] <Kealper> i'm very close to removing you from this channel :/
#2980 [19:15] <aetherian> I did call the guards for a reason :|
#2981 [19:15] <Twanaa> are you the admin?
#2982 [19:15] <Kealper> yes
#2983 [19:15] <Twanaa> What the hell is a Guard man
#2984 [19:16] <Twanaa> you mean those things a fally and varrock?
#2985 [19:16] <Twanaa> Runescape?
#2986 [19:16] <Twanaa> ???
#2987 [19:16] <aetherian> .__________.
#2988 [19:16] <dopeghoti> aetherian: 1GiB of RAM on my GPU; it's a GTS 250
#2989 [19:16] <aetherian> wow
#2990 [19:16] <aetherian> dopeghoti: hmm
#2991 [19:16] <Kealper> Twanaa: ok seriously, if you don't need help, you don't need to be here
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#2993 [19:16] <Twanaa> I need help with my lag problem
#2994 [19:16] <aetherian> I have a GTS 250M as well, dope
#2995 [19:17] <Twanaa> It runs smooth, but then is laggs a bit then smooth again...
#2996 [19:17] <aetherian> and my processor's supposed to be pretty good, I s'pose
#2997 [19:17] <Kealper> and asking if you should use a pirated client or a normal client is a bit of a dumb question in here
#2998 [19:17] <aetherian> but I still get somewhat choppy movement D:
#2999 [19:17] <Kealper> aetherian: what is it?
#3000 [19:17] <aetherian> what's what
#3001 [19:17] <aetherian> my processor?
#3002 [19:17] <Kealper> your cpu
#3003 [19:17] <Twanaa> .....
#3004 [19:18] <aetherian> it's something in the intel i7 family, but I can't make out the letters on this thing here
#3005 [19:18] <Kealper> ._.
#3006 [19:18] * aetherian looks up how to find out in linux
#3006 [19:18] <Kealper> speed?
#3007 [19:18] <VoxelHead> Speeeeeeeeed?
#3008 [19:19] <aetherian> looking
#3009 [19:19] <Twanaa> Come on, I need help with my lag problem, My game runs smooth, after a while i get little heaps of lag, and smooth again and keeps going like this, and then i am arround 30 FPS, then 10 FPS....
#3010 [19:20] <Kealper> Twanaa: is anything else running on your computer? like a virus scanner or anything?
#3011 [19:20] <Twanaa> Render = Tiny, Smoot lighting = off 3d= off, fast, opengl off
#3012 [19:20] <Twanaa> Yes, AVG
#3013 [19:20] <Twanaa> is on but not scannning
#3014 [19:20] <Kealper> disable it all the way and see if it still does that
#3015 [19:21] <Twanaa> I can't i have uninstalled allready to see if there is diffrence, but there is not much
#3016 [19:21] <Twanaa> so i installed it back again...
#3017 [19:21] <Kealper> did it used to run good?
#3018 [19:21] <Twanaa> no
#3019 [19:21] <aetherian> I think it's the intel i7-720QM
#3020 [19:21] <Kealper> it's always ran like that?
#3021 [19:21] <Twanaa> yes
#3022 [19:21] <Twanaa> i have a single core intel celeron processor.
#3023 [19:22] <Kealper> what computer do you have? it might not even be good enough to play minecraft perfectly :/
#3024 [19:22] <Kealper> ehh
#3025 [19:22] <Twanaa> 2.80Ghz
#3026 [19:22] <Kealper> single core celeron :|
#3027 [19:22] <Twanaa> familly chipset no graphics card
#3028 [19:22] <aetherian> heh, single core celeron
#3029 [19:22] <Kealper> celerons were probably the worst processor intel ever made
#3030 [19:22] <Twanaa> Yes, i dont have dualcore or something
#3031 [19:22] <Twanaa> so i have to buy a freaking new pc to play Minecraft???
#3032 [19:23] <dopeghoti> ProTip: To tame a wolf, do not whap it upside the head with a pork chop
#3033 [19:23] <aetherian> quadcore \o/
#3034 [19:23] <Kealper> but anyways, it sounds like you have generic, crappy onboard intel graphics
#3035 [19:23] <aetherian> dopeghoti: so THAT's what I was doing wrong
#3036 [19:23] <aetherian> dammit
#3037 [19:23] <Twanaa> Yes so what?
#3038 [19:23] <Kealper> dopeghoti: no, that doesn't work out well lol
#3039 [19:23] <aetherian> back to the drawing board
#3040 [19:23] <Twanaa> What the f do i have to buy to make it run lagless?
#3041 [19:23] <Kealper> Twanaa: you might have to look in to getting a proper graphics card
#3042 [19:23] <aetherian> to run lag/less/
#3043 [19:23] <aetherian> hmm
#3044 [19:23] <Twanaa> not a new processor?
#3045 [19:24] <Kealper> i only get like 90 fps if i turn the graphics all the way down...i miss my overclocks :<
#3046 [19:24] <Twanaa> omg how much man
#3047 [19:24] <Kealper> Twanaa: no, the processor is bad, but it should still be good enough for minecraft
#3048 [19:24] <Twanaa> i have never got more then like 32 fps
#3049 [19:24] <aetherian> oh!
#3050 [19:24] <aetherian> 32 isn't too bad
#3051 [19:25] <aetherian> I know people that run with a constant 15
#3052 [19:25] <Twanaa> thats when i am doing nothing
#3053 [19:25] <Kealper> anything above like 25 is good
#3054 [19:25] <Twanaa> but when i look arround walk and mine i have like 12 - 18
#3055 [19:25] <Kealper> yeah, definately sounds like you just need a real video card :/
#3056 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Does sound like your graphics card is the bottleneck
#3057 [19:25] <Twanaa> Ok.
#3058 [19:25] <Kealper> have you tried with advanced opengl on? that can help in some cases
#3059 [19:25] <Kealper> although, with that cpu....lol
#3060 [19:25] <Twanaa> Yes i did
#3061 [19:26] <Kealper> didn't help?
#3062 [19:26] <Twanaa> But what graphics card should i buy, and it did not have any effect (openGL).
#3063 [19:26] <dopeghoti> Any relatively modern PCIe card should do
#3064 [19:26] <Kealper> well, it all depends on your computer
#3065 [19:26] <Twanaa> I need a low profile.
#3066 [19:27] <Twanaa> PCI
#3067 [19:27] <Kealper> if it's got a single core celeron, it's probably only got an agp slot in it for video
#3068 [19:27] <Twanaa> agp - low profile?
#3069 [19:27] <Twanaa> Noooooooone sells a agp card
#3070 [19:27] <Kealper> they can be, depends on the card
#3071 [19:27] <Twanaa> they are too old
#3072 [19:28] <Kealper> but ultimately...you will have to take it to someone who knows about computers and can actually open your computer and look to see what it needs
#3073 [19:28] <Kealper> and then make a judgement on what graphics card you should buy
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#3075 [19:29] <aetherian> or you could buy a new computer, at this rate, haha.
#3076 [19:29] <Twanaa> I can open my pc and stuff and look
#3077 [19:29] <VoxelHead> you lie... YOU LIEEEEEEE%percent@*!�*!�$%percent
#3078 [19:29] <Twanaa> wait a sec i will look brb
#3079 [19:29] <ked> Hi was wandering is there any way to turn off clouds in minecraft?
#3080 [19:29] <aetherian> nope
#3081 [19:29] <aetherian> no way a'tall
#3082 [19:29] <ked> awwwwwwww
#3083 [19:29] <ked> theres goes my house on a mountain
#3084 [19:29] <Kealper> :/
#3085 [19:29] <Kealper> you could make it above the clouds
#3086 [19:29] <Twanaa> Yes Kealper i need a AGP indeed.
#3087 [19:30] <Kealper> Twanaa: is the motherboard green?
#3088 [19:30] <ked> alright
#3089 [19:30] <Twanaa> blue
#3090 [19:30] <aetherian> Kealper: the grass is green, if that helps.
#3091 [19:30] <Kealper> oh...hmm...then my next question probably won't matter
#3092 [19:30] <Twanaa> ?
#3093 [19:30] <Twanaa> what is it?
#3094 [19:31] <Kealper> i was going to ask if the slot that was closest to the cpu heatsink was brown or if it was white
#3095 [19:31] <Twanaa> http://norrod.nl/ws_a_index.asp?A_id=39696
#3096 [19:31] <Kealper> but since your motherboard is not the stock color....lol
#3097 [19:31] <Twanaa> is this card good?
#3098 [19:31] <Twanaa> what do you think?
#3099 [19:32] <Twanaa> wait i look again its dark i live in the netherlands
#3100 [19:32] <Kealper> my parents have one of those
#3101 [19:32] <Kealper> let me go check if it runs minecraft good, brb
#3102 [19:32] <Kealper> because they have a single core cpu, too
#3103 [19:33] <Twanaa> kealper, i just checked, i got a Blue motherboard, and 2 white slots like this ============-====
#3104 [19:34] <Twanaa> And it has a SATA hard disk
#3105 [19:36] <Kealper> ok back
#3106 [19:36] <Kealper> their computer doesn't run it perfectly...but it runs it...ok i guess lol
#3107 [19:36] <Twanaa> kealper, i just checked, i got a Blue motherboard, and 2 white slots like this ============-====
#3108 [19:36] <Kealper> and they have that same video card, and about the same processor
#3109 [19:37] <Kealper> hmm...
#3110 [19:37] <Kealper> did someone build your computer or is it something like a Dell or an HP?
#3111 [19:37] <Twanaa> Its a fujitsu siemens..
#3112 [19:38] <Kealper> what is it's model?
#3113 [19:38] <Kealper> (TIL Fujitsu makes desktops?)
#3114 [19:38] <Twanaa> yes
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#3116 [19:39] <Kealper> anyways, what is it's model number? i could find out just what it has
#3117 [19:40] <Twanaa> Fujitsu Siemens esprimo e5905
#3118 [19:41] <Kealper> tiny..lol
#3119 [19:41] <Twanaa> yk3c023099S = Serial
#3120 [19:42] <Twanaa> http://miburl.com/JdggSK here it is what it looks like inside.
#3121 [19:43] <Kealper> hmm...
#3122 [19:44] <Kealper> this data sheet says your model has a pci-e x16 slot in it
#3123 [19:44] <Twanaa> is that good?
#3124 [19:45] <Kealper> it means you can get a bit better of a card
#3125 [19:45] <Twanaa> like???
#3126 [19:45] * Captain-Lightning[2] [Captain-Lightning[2]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3127 [19:46] <Kealper> http://norrod.nl/ws_a_index.asp?A_id=48296 should be able to use that
#3128 [19:46] <Twanaa> but thats DDR3?
#3129 [19:46] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go o_O
#3130 [19:46] <Kealper> that is just talking about the memory that the card has on it
#3131 [19:47] <Kealper> it does not affect anything on the rest of your computer, and the faster the card's memory, the faster it can load games
#3132 [19:48] <Twanaa> ok.
#3133 [19:48] <Twanaa> So if i buy that...
#3134 [19:48] <Twanaa> then
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#3136 [19:48] <Twanaa> minecraft is smooth?
#3137 [19:49] <Kealper> it should run better, yes
#3138 [19:49] <Twanaa> ok
#3139 [19:49] <Twanaa> Then i am going to order it.
#3140 [19:50] <Kealper> hmm....
#3141 [19:50] <Kealper> actually looking...the HD 5450 is a pretty nice card for just 33eur lol
#3142 [19:50] <Twanaa> yes
#3143 [19:50] <Twanaa> i had the 4350 but its broken
#3144 [19:51] <Kealper> that 5450 supports directx 11 and other stuff O.o
#3145 [19:51] <Twanaa> I am going to sleep
#3146 [19:51] <Twanaa> bye
#3147 [19:51] * Kealper waves _o/
#3147 [19:51] * Twanaa waves too and says bye
#3147 [19:51] * Twanaa and thanks.
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#3148 [19:58] <TheNytangel> herobrine scares me..
#3149 [19:58] <Kealper> O.o
#3150 [19:58] <Kealper> herobrine isn't real >.>
#3151 [19:58] <aetherian> insert keysmash here
#3152 [19:58] <aetherian> it's not funny anymore keysmash
#3153 [19:58] <TheNytangel> herobrine was real
#3154 [19:59] * aetherian readies his weapon
#3154 [20:00] <aetherian> wait
#3155 [20:00] <aetherian> kealper: pvp is on in this channel right?
#3156 [20:00] * Kealper enables pvp
#3156 [20:00] <dekema2> how join #minecraft
#3157 [20:00] <aetherian> \what
#3158 [20:00] <aetherian> everybody out
#3159 [20:00] <TheNytangel> /join #minecraft
#3160 [20:00] <TheNytangel> wut
#3161 [20:00] <dekema2> how
#3162 [20:00] <aetherian> the server has to be reset to enable pvp
#3163 [20:00] <dekema2> no link availible
#3164 [20:01] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3165 [20:01] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3166 [20:01] <Kealper> dekema2: type /join #minecraft
#3167 [20:01] <Kealper> and then press enter
#3168 [20:01] <dekema2> ok
#3169 [20:03] <Kealper> hmm....getting like 350 fps in minecraft ftw
#3170 [20:03] * aetherian stabs kealper
#3170 [20:04] <aetherian> D:<
#3171 [20:04] <TheNytangel> i get 0-25 fps
#3172 [20:04] <TheNytangel> :/
#3173 [20:04] <aetherian> I used to get ~200 walking around
#3174 [20:04] <aetherian> don't know why I don't anymore
#3175 [20:04] <dekema2> Hi Kealper, my client is esnding me a message saying it won't connect.. any suggestions?
#3176 [20:04] <aetherian> I blame drivers, they're easy to blame.
#3177 [20:04] <Kealper> dekema2: what client? your irc client?
#3178 [20:04] <aetherian> next time I should get a taxi
#3179 [20:04] * snarkyboy [snarkyboy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3180 [20:05] <dekema2> "Colloquy" for mac
#3181 [20:05] <snarkyboy> Can someone help me broswer and download both not working after I just bought the game
#3182 [20:05] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#3183 [20:05] * VoxelHead is away: fud
#3183 [20:06] <aetherian> TheNytangel: what if he uses a mac or a Linux computer
#3184 [20:06] <aetherian> D:
#3185 [20:06] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip?v=1303603527495
#3186 [20:06] <TheNytangel> mac
#3187 [20:06] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar?v=1303603527495
#3188 [20:06] <TheNytangel> linux
#3189 [20:06] <dekema2> im on a mac
#3190 [20:06] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip?v=1303603527495
#3191 [20:06] <aetherian> !client
#3192 [20:06] <TheNytangel> -_-
#3193 [20:06] <aetherian> :D
#3194 [20:07] * aetherian hugs AuBot
#3194 [20:07] <Kealper> dekema2: hmm...what is it telling you when you try to join?
#3195 [20:07] * TheNytangel hugs himself
#3195 [20:07] <dekema2> Cant Send to Room: Can't send to room "#minecraft" on "irc.esper.net".
#3196 [20:08] <snarkyboy> I get white screen or no screen at all on browser and when i click run after downloading the client nothing happens
#3197 [20:08] <Kealper> dekema2: oh, you have to register your username with NickServ
#3198 [20:08] <Kealper> dekema2: type /msg nickserv help register
#3199 [20:08] <Kealper> dekema2: that will explain how to register
#3200 [20:08] <dekema2> ok
#3201 [20:09] <snarkyboy> anybody know how to help me?
#3202 [20:09] <dekema2> I'm connected, now what?
#3203 [20:09] <dekema2> to NickServ
#3204 [20:10] <Kealper> follow the instructions it said
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#3206 [20:10] <Kealper> it should have said something about typing /msg nickserv register password email
#3207 [20:11] <dekema2> No, it just says "member:NickServ is now available."
#3208 [20:11] <Kealper> O.o
#3209 [20:11] <dekema2> :(
#3210 [20:12] <Kealper> well...just type /msg nickserv register password email
#3211 [20:12] <Kealper> replacing email with your email address
#3212 [20:12] <dekema2> ok
#3213 [20:12] <Kealper> and password with the password you want
#3214 [20:12] <dekema2> oh sounds like a plan
#3215 [20:12] <dekema2> thanks
#3216 [20:13] <dekema2> thanks Kealper it worked, i'm kinda new to this irc thing.
#3217 [20:13] <Kealper> lol
#3218 [20:14] <snarkyboy> hello?
#3219 [20:14] <Kealper> snarkyboy: hi
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#3221 [20:14] <Kealper> snarkyboy: has it ever worked before?
#3222 [20:15] <snarkyboy> Do you have any idea hpw to fix my problem? Browser and downloading won't work- and java is updated
#3223 [20:15] <snarkyboy> nope
#3224 [20:15] <snarkyboy> I just bought it today
#3225 [20:15] <Kealper> what are your computer specs?
#3226 [20:16] <snarkyboy> like what? I'm not very knowledgable about that sort of thing- its a windows 7 and it can play most new games well.
#3227 [20:16] <Kealper> hmm....
#3228 [20:16] <Kealper> ?? win/dxdiag
#3229 [20:16] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3230 [20:16] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#3232 [20:19] <snarkyboy> ok
#3233 [20:19] <snarkyboy> stem Information ------------------ Time of this report: 4/23/2011, 20:14:55 Machine name: D677JN1 Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: Precision M6500
#3234 [20:19] <Kealper> not here ._.
#3235 [20:19] <Kealper> paste it into http://pastebin.com
#3236 [20:19] <Kealper> and then put the url to that paste in here
#3237 [20:21] <snarkyboy> http://pastebin.com/XM1CZdpp
#3238 [20:22] <Kealper> O.o
#3239 [20:22] <snarkyboy> ?
#3240 [20:22] <bokaholic> Is there a way to have more than one world on a server?
#3241 [20:23] <Kealper> snarkyboy: hmm...that is a decent laptop...
#3242 [20:23] <Kealper> bokaholic: not without a multiverse Bukkit plugin
#3243 [20:23] <Kealper> multiworld/multiverse, i forget what they call it now
#3244 [20:23] <bokaholic> Hmmm. I've heard of this Bukkit.
#3245 [20:24] <snarkyboy> thats why I thought this was strange
#3246 [20:24] <Kealper> snarkyboy: that is quite strange, that laptop should blow minecraft out of the water....
#3247 [20:24] <bokaholic> I would love to do that.
#3248 [20:25] <snarkyboy> but it won't play on any browser firefox, IE, Safari, and all that happens when I run the download is some java process starts- but nothing I can see, just a java.exe opens in task manager
#3249 [20:25] <Kealper> hmm....ok then, when you get to the white screen in your browser, tell me, i will tell you what to do next to figure this out
#3250 [20:25] <Kealper> but don't close out of the game, it should remain open
#3251 [20:27] <snarkyboy> so I should go on IE/safari where I get the java loading followed by white screen?
#3252 [20:27] <Kealper> any browser will do
#3253 [20:27] <snarkyboy> on firefox I only get the minecraft.net background
#3254 [20:27] <snarkyboy> ok
#3255 [20:27] <Kealper> hmm
#3256 [20:28] <Kealper> that means that Java is not properly installed then
#3257 [20:28] <snarkyboy> ok opened in firefox
#3258 [20:28] <Kealper> so what i was about to tell you would not have worked anyways, but heck, might as well try
#3259 [20:28] <snarkyboy> should I try to install it again?
#3260 [20:28] <Kealper> is there a little white coffee cup in your tray by the computer clock?
#3261 [20:28] <snarkyboy> no
#3262 [20:29] <Kealper> though so
#3263 [20:29] <Kealper> thought*
#3264 [20:29] <Kealper> bah
#3265 [20:29] <Kealper> yeah, java is not installed, or is not installed right
#3266 [20:31] <snarkyboy> huh, okay, that is really wierd
#3267 [20:31] <snarkyboy> Its under 'programs'
#3268 [20:32] <Kealper> uninstall it and then reinstall it from http://java.com
#3269 [20:33] <snarkyboy> okay
#3270 [20:34] <Kealper> ok back
#3271 [20:35] <Kealper> did you uninstall it and reinstall it?
#3272 [20:35] <snarkyboy> reinstalling now
#3273 [20:36] <Kealper> i had to go take some pictures of this really nice red sunset that started going behind the houses outside :o
#3274 [20:36] * Kealper looks to see if they look any good
#3274 [20:36] <snarkyboy> oooh cool
#3275 [20:37] <snarkyboy> okay! its reinstalled!
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#3277 [20:37] <snarkyboy> Should I try again?
#3278 [20:37] <Kealper> give it a go and see if that fixed it
#3279 [20:37] <bokaholic> I'm looking online and not finding a solution yet. 'End of stream' connection lost off of any server? I have a friend I'm trying to help with this.
#3280 [20:37] <snarkyboy> looks like its working!
#3281 [20:38] <snarkyboy> Okay! at least got to a log in screeen lol
#3282 [20:38] <Kealper> bokaholic: hmm....what network card does he/she have, and can they try it on any other network connection?
#3283 [20:38] * bokaholic asks.
#3283 [20:38] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/m1y5g.jpg <-- that's the thing i just took lol
#3284 [20:38] <snarkyboy> thanks for the help! I think that worked!
#3285 [20:38] <Kealper> snarkyboy: does it let you log in and stuff?
#3286 [20:39] <snarkyboy> Thats very nice- my college is on a lake we get great sunsets
#3287 [20:39] <bokaholic> Kealper: he says 'It's 56k and no other option.
#3288 [20:39] <snarkyboy> yup- hopefully this'll let me play now
#3289 [20:39] <Kealper> bokaholic: like....dialup?
#3290 [20:39] <bokaholic> I think so, yes. :O
#3291 [20:39] <Kealper> minecraft isn't going to run on dialup :/
#3292 [20:39] <bokaholic> Awe. Sad.
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#3294 [20:40] <Kealper> man
#3295 [20:40] <Kealper> that camera takes some pretty nice pictures lol
#3296 [20:40] <bokaholic> Ooo, cameras where?
#3297 [20:40] <bokaholic> I looove cameras.
#3298 [20:41] <Kealper> the picture i just linked above
#3299 [20:41] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/m1y5g.jpg
#3300 [20:41] <Kealper> i just took that about 10 min ago lol
#3301 [20:41] <bokaholic> Ooo.
#3302 [20:41] <bokaholic> You use flickr or anything?
#3303 [20:41] <Kealper> didn't add any filters to the image or anything
#3304 [20:41] <Kealper> i have a flickr account, but it's been untouched for ages
#3305 [20:41] <bokaholic> Awe.
#3306 [20:42] <Kealper> i do like photography, but i suck at it lol
#3307 [20:42] <bread> hey me too
#3308 [20:42] <bokaholic> http://www.flickr.com/photos/angelekemp/5638488109/in/photostream
#3309 [20:42] <bokaholic> I looove photographyyy
#3310 [20:42] <bread> I just steal my girlfriend's camera and take pictures of shit
#3311 [20:42] <bokaholic> lol
#3312 [20:42] <Kealper> lol
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#3314 [20:43] <Kealper> random bear in a tree ftw? lol
#3315 [20:43] <bokaholic> Sleeping bear.
#3316 [20:43] <bokaholic> I think it's a Sunbear.
#3317 [20:43] <Kealper> lol
#3318 [20:43] <bokaholic> Like.. The breed or whatever o.o
#3319 [20:44] <Kealper> Canon EOS 30D :<
#3320 [20:44] <bokaholic> :<
#3321 [20:44] <bokaholic> I will upgrade some day
#3322 [20:44] * Kealper looks at crappy Olympus fe-47 and cries
#3322 [20:44] <bokaholic> If I was single.. I would probably sell everything I own and live in a shit hole to buy one.
#3323 [20:45] <Kealper> lol
#3324 [20:45] <bokaholic> To upgrade, rather.
#3325 [20:45] <Kealper> Canon 7D ftw
#3326 [20:45] <bokaholic> I'll be buying the 5D MkII.
#3327 [20:45] <Kealper> :o
#3328 [20:45] <bokaholic> Full sensor FTW.
#3329 [20:46] <Kealper> what does the picture quality look like on your current camera when you have it set at the largest image size?
#3330 [20:46] <Kealper> because this one i have looks like complete garbage if i have it at 14MP
#3331 [20:46] <bokaholic> Pretty decent, depending on what ISO you;ve got it on.
#3332 [20:47] <bokaholic> Secret? Megapixels are garbage.
#3333 [20:47] <bokaholic> They really mean nothing.
#3334 [20:47] <bokaholic> You shooting auto?
#3335 [20:47] <Kealper> yeah, i know lol...usually i have this camera just set to take 1920x1080 images and they don't look too bad
#3336 [20:47] <Kealper> usually i do as manual as i can with this cheap camera lol
#3337 [20:48] <bokaholic> Hey man. I use my iphone way more than my dSLR and that's way shitter than your camera. :)
#3338 [20:48] <Kealper> in an iphone's defence, they actually take pretty nice images if it's well-lit xD
#3339 [20:49] <Kealper> defense*
#3340 [20:49] <bokaholic> Yes.
#3341 [20:49] <bokaholic> I HDR a lot of iphone photos.
#3342 [20:49] <bokaholic> So it's kind of like cheating.
#3343 [20:49] <Kealper> lol
#3344 [20:49] <bokaholic> Except more time consuming.
#3345 [20:49] <Kealper> the one in that image i linked was not touched, that was straight off the camera :o
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#3347 [20:50] <bokaholic> Well, that's silly. That's like taking your film to get developted by walmart D:
#3348 [20:50] <bokaholic> Hehe
#3349 [20:50] <bokaholic> I always adjust my contract and sharpness.
#3350 [20:50] <Kealper> i'd also like to know who's dumb idea it was to make stuff like ISO-1600 cameras
#3351 [20:51] <Kealper> and who's even dumber idea it was to have my camera try and use 1600 as much as possible when it's on auto ._.
#3352 [20:51] <bokaholic> Oh dude.. For point and shoots.. Super dumb.
#3353 [20:51] <bokaholic> 1600 with 5D: http://www.fototime.com/1DF38995305D900/orig.jpg
#3354 [20:52] <bokaholic> No noise what so ever. ... Hot ;.;
#3355 [20:52] <Kealper> wow
#3356 [20:52] <Kealper> that is smexy
#3357 [20:52] <Kealper> my camera would make that look so bad with 1600
#3358 [20:52] <bokaholic> lol @ image. But alas: ISO 3200 5D http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/b_d_bop/Bocciagalupe_2208.jpg
#3359 [20:53] <Kealper> that is one UGLY dog lol
#3360 [20:53] <bokaholic> It's a cat dude
#3361 [20:53] <bokaholic> lmao
#3362 [20:53] <Kealper> XD
#3363 [20:53] <bokaholic> Hahahaha
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#3365 [20:54] <Kealper> speaking of ugly dogs, here is just a random pic of my dog with it on auto...and using 1600 ._.
#3366 [20:54] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/444cA.jpg
#3367 [20:54] <bokaholic> But see.. When people get noise like that.. They make it artsy and make it a high contrast B&W.
#3368 [20:54] <bread> dat face
#3369 [20:54] <bokaholic> Then it looks like old film :D
#3370 [20:55] <bokaholic> Dog is all E:
#3371 [20:55] * Kealper does that real quick
#3371 [20:55] <Kealper> yeah, my dog has a massive underbite lol
#3372 [20:55] <bokaholic> http://www.flickr.com/photos/angelekemp/5151863585/in/set-72157625340392784
#3373 [20:55] <bokaholic> That was higher of an ISO that I liked. You can see the noise in the eyes.
#3374 [20:56] <bokaholic> But totally all B&W contrasy and people are like 'omg yay'.
#3375 [20:56] <Kealper> a bit lol
#3376 [20:57] <Kealper> there....lol
#3377 [20:57] * Kealper uploads
#3377 [20:58] * bokaholic waits :o
#3377 [20:58] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/Pwqfm.jpg lol
#3378 [20:58] <Kealper> am i doin it rite?
#3379 [20:58] <bokaholic> Yes! not just resize because I think it's life sized :D
#3380 [20:58] * bokaholic pets picture.
#3380 [20:58] <Kealper> lol
#3381 [20:59] <Kealper> hmm...sepia looks decent
#3382 [20:59] * bokaholic tries something.
#3382 [21:00] <Kealper> dang
#3383 [21:00] <Kealper> dslr cameras are friggin expensive
#3384 [21:01] <bokaholic> A friend of mine just got an old Canon Rebel on Keh.com
#3385 [21:01] <bokaholic> I think it's .com at least.
#3386 [21:01] <bokaholic> For 200 bucks.
#3387 [21:02] <Kealper> the cheapest i see on Newegg for a new one is an Olympus one for $400
#3388 [21:04] <bokaholic> Hehe
#3389 [21:04] <bokaholic> My upgrade will be 3000.
#3390 [21:04] <bokaholic> Plus lenses.
#3391 [21:04] <Kealper> o.o
#3392 [21:04] <bokaholic> 3K just for the body
#3393 [21:04] <bokaholic> yeah
#3394 [21:05] <Kealper> hmm
#3395 [21:05] <bokaholic> Ok. I did this: http://eatmycreativegenius.org/images/woof.jpg But then I remembered i cranked my brightness and gama for minecrafting times.
#3396 [21:05] <Kealper> this camera i have just seems like the point-and-shoot version of this dslr one lol
#3397 [21:05] <bokaholic> SO it probably looks like utter garbage.
#3398 [21:06] <Kealper> lol
#3399 [21:06] <Kealper> looks decent
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#3402 [21:07] <bokaholic> http://www.keh.com/camera/Canon-Digital-Camera-Bodies/1/sku-DC029990734860?r=FE
#3403 [21:07] <bokaholic> 205.
#3404 [21:07] <Kealper> meh lol
#3405 [21:07] <Kealper> but that still needs a lens, doesn't it?
#3406 [21:07] <bokaholic> Yep. You can get a 50mm 1.8 for 100-something though.
#3407 [21:08] <bokaholic> That's a solid lens.
#3408 [21:08] <bokaholic> I shoot with a 50mm 1.4 almost always.
#3409 [21:08] <Kealper> meh
#3410 [21:08] <bokaholic> But that's also because I'm broke.
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#3412 [21:09] <bokaholic> Foxxx.
#3413 [21:11] <Kealper> hmm....
#3414 [21:11] <Kealper> macro mode
#3415 [21:11] * Kealper messes with that setting
#3415 [21:11] <Kealper> neat
#3416 [21:12] * bokaholic peers.
#3416 [21:13] <Kealper> disregard me, i was just randomly taking an image of my keyboard with that macro mode on
#3417 [21:14] <bokaholic> Ooo, fancy.
#3418 [21:14] <Kealper> i've realized i need to disassemble my keyboard and clean it properly
#3419 [21:14] <Kealper> lol
#3420 [21:14] <bokaholic> Food particles o/`
#3421 [21:14] <Kealper> pretty much ._.
#3422 [21:15] <Kealper> i tend to use my keyboard as a plate
#3423 [21:15] <bokaholic> They are not plates.. (fact (science))
#3424 [21:15] <Kealper> :<
#3425 [21:15] <Kealper> anyways, brb
#3426 [21:16] <bokaholic> My keyboard glows. So it's a constant reminder that it is no plate.
#3427 [21:17] <wheybags> hey
#3428 [21:17] <wheybags> anyone know how i can script server commands
#3429 [21:17] <wheybags> (on linux)
#3430 [21:17] <wheybags> eg, i want to force a global save, then take the server down while i do backups
#3431 [21:18] <wheybags> can this be done?
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#3433 [21:20] <Kealper> cronjobs
#3434 [21:20] <wheybags> yeah
#3435 [21:20] <wheybags> i know
#3436 [21:20] <Kealper> that's as much as i can tell you, as i don't know after that
#3437 [21:20] <Kealper> but anyways, afk to color eggs ._.
#3438 [21:20] <wheybags> but i would like something more elgant than "killall java"
#3439 [21:21] <wheybags> color eggs?
#3440 [21:22] <wheybags> an ideas?
#3441 [21:22] <wheybags> *any
#3442 [21:36] <bokaholic> Coloring eggs is for Easter.
#3443 [21:36] <bokaholic> Which is tomorrow. If I remember correctly.
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#3445 [21:39] <Kealper> ok back
#3446 [21:40] * thisguykills [thisguykills@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3447 [21:40] <thisguykills> hey guys
#3448 [21:40] <thisguykills> I need some help with minecraft
#3449 [21:40] <Kealper> hi
#3450 [21:40] <Kealper> what sort?
#3451 [21:40] <thisguykills> when I click login it shows that it is downloading, then when it is finished
#3452 [21:40] <thisguykills> it goes straight to a black screen
#3453 [21:41] <Kealper> has it ever worked before?
#3454 [21:41] <thisguykills> I tried deleting my .minecraft folder too
#3455 [21:41] <thisguykills> yes it used to work
#3456 [21:41] <thisguykills> I played a few months or so ago
#3457 [21:41] <Kealper> hmm....has anything changed with your computer?
#3458 [21:41] <thisguykills> nope
#3459 [21:42] <Kealper> are you trying to play with the downloaded client or the browser?
#3460 [21:42] <thisguykills> neither work
#3461 [21:42] <thisguykills> but im trying with dl'ed client
#3462 [21:42] <thisguykills> it turns black on the client and white on the browser
#3463 [21:42] <Kealper> try inside the browser, and when it gets to the black screen, leave it and then tell me
#3464 [21:42] <bokaholic> Race war.
#3465 [21:42] <thisguykills> I can click the start button but I just can't see anything
#3466 [21:42] <Kealper> i will tell you what to do from there to get more debug info to see what is happening
#3467 [21:42] <thisguykills> because i hear it
#3468 [21:42] <thisguykills> and I will try
#3469 [21:42] <Kealper> bokaholic: wut
#3470 [21:43] <thisguykills> alright
#3471 [21:43] <bokaholic> Black screens and white screens. Dumb joke.
#3472 [21:43] <bokaholic> :x
#3473 [21:43] <thisguykills> it is white now in my browser
#3474 [21:43] <bokaholic> 6.6;
#3475 [21:43] <Kealper> bokaholic: lol
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#3477 [21:44] <Kealper> ok, do you see a little white coffee cup icon down in the task bar to the right of your computer's clock?
#3478 [21:44] <thisguykills> yeah
#3479 [21:44] <thisguykills> im in win 7 so it is in the arrow part, but yes
#3480 [21:44] <Kealper> right click that and select Open Java Console
#3481 [21:44] <thisguykills> alright
#3482 [21:44] <Kealper> got it open?
#3483 [21:44] <thisguykills> yep
#3484 [21:44] <Kealper> copy the text that is in that console and then paste it to http://pastebin.com
#3485 [21:45] <Kealper> and then put the pastebin link in here
#3486 [21:45] <thisguykills> http://pastebin.com/Hx1pkw3N\
#3487 [21:45] <thisguykills> oops
#3488 [21:45] <thisguykills> http://pastebin.com/Hx1pkw3N
#3489 [21:46] <Kealper> hmm...
#3490 [21:46] <Kealper> it doesn't seem to be throwing any errors
#3491 [21:46] <Kealper> try reinstalling Java :/
#3492 [21:47] <thisguykills> ight
#3493 [21:47] <Kealper> uninstall it through Programs and Features and then install it again from http://java.com
#3494 [21:47] <TheNytangel> does anyone want to come on my server and play with some minecart tracks?
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#3497 [21:48] <Kealper> after recent events, this channel has taken a hands-off policy when it comes to joining peoples' servers :/
#3498 [21:48] <TheNytangel> D:
#3499 [21:49] <TheNytangel> wuts dat mean?
#3500 [21:49] <TheNytangel> i should go to #smp? :P
#3501 [21:49] <Kealper> that would probably get more people lol
#3502 [21:49] <TheNytangel> what if is said i needed "help" with them
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#3504 [21:50] <Kealper> i personally wouldn't join, as i'm busy with other things right now....but someone else might
#3505 [21:50] <thisguykills> im back
#3506 [21:50] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] Music? (Anonymous) - Sun, 24 Apr 2011 01:49:02 +0000
#3507 [21:50] <thisguykills> currently installing java
#3508 [21:50] <TheNytangel> well, i never said YOU had to
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#3510 [21:52] <Kealper> ~stfu
#3511 [21:52] <Kealper> dang....i can't make it shut up
#3512 [21:52] <TheNytangel> lol
#3513 [21:52] <TheNytangel> for a second i thought you were talking to me
#3514 [21:52] <Kealper> the ~stfu thing is a command for McPlusPlus lol
#3515 [21:53] <TheNytangel> ^stfu
#3516 [21:53] <TheNytangel> oops
#3517 [21:53] <TheNytangel> wrong symbol
#3518 [21:54] <Kealper> 21:50:51 -McPlusPlus(root@irc.pearsoncoles.com)- You do not have access to this command.
#3519 [21:54] <Kealper> is what happens when you issue it ._.
#3520 [21:55] <thisguykills> it still doesnt work
#3521 [21:56] <thisguykills> i get the black screen after reinstalling java
#3522 [21:56] <Kealper> hmm...stame issue?
#3523 [21:56] <thisguykills> yeh
#3524 [21:56] <Kealper> dang...your client isn't really giving my much to go on ._.
#3525 [21:56] <Kealper> me*
#3526 [21:56] <Kealper> well, next thing to try would be to reinstall your video drivers
#3527 [21:57] <Kealper> actually
#3528 [21:57] <Kealper> before you do that
#3529 [21:57] <Kealper> do you know how to create a new windows user account?
#3530 [21:57] <thisguykills> yea
#3531 [21:58] <Kealper> create new, blank account and try minecraft on that to make sure it's just no some random configuration problem with your windows account
#3532 [21:58] <Kealper> man my typing sucks.... not*
#3533 [21:58] <thisguykills> alright
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#3535 [22:03] <thisguykills> alright well
#3536 [22:04] <thisguykills> ive found that if i log in and click where multiplayer usually is
#3537 [22:04] <thisguykills> it iwll start working
#3538 [22:04] <Kealper> and it shows everything normally after that?
#3539 [22:04] <thisguykills> wait nvm
#3540 [22:04] <thisguykills> it only works on my other user
#3541 [22:04] <thisguykills> ignore what i said before
#3542 [22:04] <thisguykills> everything works on the other user
#3543 [22:04] <thisguykills> for some reason
#3544 [22:05] <Kealper> ok so it works fine on the clean user account, but doesn't work at all on your normal user account?
#3545 [22:05] <thisguykills> yep
#3546 [22:05] <Kealper> hmm...
#3547 [22:05] <Kealper> it could be a number of things causing that
#3548 [22:05] <TheNytangel> name them all
#3549 [22:06] <Kealper> that's the problem
#3550 [22:06] <TheNytangel> :P
#3551 [22:06] <Kealper> i don't know them
#3552 [22:06] <TheNytangel> oh
#3553 [22:06] <Kealper> ;_;
#3554 [22:06] <TheNytangel> never seen that face before
#3555 [22:06] <Kealper> crying face
#3556 [22:06] <TheNytangel> i know
#3557 [22:06] <TheNytangel> ive just never seen it
#3558 [22:06] <Kealper> lol
#3559 [22:06] <TheNytangel> usually i see :'(
#3560 [22:06] <thisguykills> bleh
#3561 [22:07] <Kealper> well...it's probably easiest to just use the clean account, as i have no idea what could be causing your issue, since i don't have access to your computer to debug crap and poke around at settings
#3562 [22:07] <thisguykills> alright
#3563 [22:07] <thisguykills> thanks
#3564 [22:08] <Kealper> sorry i couldn't be of more help :/
#3565 [22:08] <thisguykills> its fine, you tried!
#3566 [22:08] <thisguykills> lol
#3567 [22:12] <bokaholic> Fence....
#3568 [22:12] <Kealper> wut
#3569 [22:12] <bokaholic> Made a long row of fence.. And only a few wnt to show up.
#3570 [22:12] <bokaholic> Want*
#3571 [22:12] <Kealper> O.o
#3572 [22:12] <bokaholic> Very strange.
#3573 [22:13] * Kealper fires up Portal 2
#3573 [22:13] <bokaholic> I've also never made a train/cart station before. No idea wht to doooo
#3574 [22:13] <Kealper> lol, you're free to see some ghetto examples on my server
#3575 [22:13] <bokaholic> They are not ghetto at all. D:
#3576 [22:13] <bokaholic> Do you hide the redstone under the tracks?
#3577 [22:13] <TheNytangel> D:
#3578 [22:13] <Kealper> on some stations, yes
#3579 [22:13] <TheNytangel> Kealper, why have you not offered that to me?
#3580 [22:14] <Kealper> because bokaholic is already whitelisted on my server :P
#3581 [22:14] <TheNytangel> -_-
#3582 [22:14] <TheNytangel> meanie
#3583 [22:14] <Kealper> but
#3584 [22:14] <TheNytangel> :o
#3585 [22:14] <TheNytangel> you will make an exception?
#3586 [22:14] <TheNytangel> :P
#3587 [22:14] <Kealper> if you don't break anything, i guess you could go check it out lol
#3588 [22:14] <TheNytangel> dont worry
#3589 [22:14] <TheNytangel> im not a griefer
#3590 [22:15] <TheNytangel> i like to build things but everyone always blows it up with TNT :(
#3591 [22:15] <Kealper> ingame username?
#3592 [22:15] <TheNytangel> TheNytangel
#3593 [22:15] <TheNytangel> dur
#3594 [22:15] <Kealper> lol
#3595 [22:15] <TheNytangel> IP
#3596 [22:16] <Kealper> anywho, off to Portal 2 i go
#3597 [22:16] <xales> Kealper: Have fun
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#3599 [22:20] <TheNytangel> kealper: i think a creeper may have blown up some of your minecart tracks
#3600 [22:20] <TheNytangel> :(
#3601 [22:21] <Kealper> ._.
#3602 [22:21] * VoxelHead is back
#3602 [22:21] <bokaholic> Oh vox.
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#3604 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Yay, just finished the last course of portal 2 coop
#3605 [22:33] <xales> :|
#3606 [22:33] <xales> I haven't found anyone around to play when I was around :<
#3607 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Aww
#3608 [22:34] <TheNytangel> i would have played, but i dont have the money and graphics card for it :P
#3609 [22:34] <TheNytangel> yet
#3610 [22:36] <TheNytangel> and im stranded in a tower with water and a cactus in kealpers server :/
#3611 [22:36] <Kealper> O.o
#3612 [22:36] <TheNytangel> :P
#3613 [22:37] <TheNytangel> i climbed up the water fall so i dont get attacked by mobs in the night time
#3614 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Have you played it yet xales?
#3615 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Also.
#3616 [22:37] * GreyVulpine pokes xales at #mcbots
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#3617 [22:46] <bokaholic> How does one make a door button to open and close a door? :I
#3618 [22:48] <aetherian> uh
#3619 [22:48] <aetherian> two stone on top of each other...?
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#3621 [22:52] <TheNytangel> wow kealper. you guys are awesome at wiring
#3622 [22:55] * BTLOTM [BTLOTM@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3623 [22:55] <BTLOTM> Hey...I have a quick question....
#3624 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#3625 [22:56] <BTLOTM> When you get an achievement, does it say "Taken" under it on the list?
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#3627 [22:56] <Rainemaker> hello fellow minecrafters
#3628 [22:56] <Rainemaker> im having an end of stream error
#3629 [22:57] <Rainemaker> every time i try to connect to my own locally hosted server
#3630 [22:57] <Rainemaker> can someone please advise on how to fix this?
#3631 [22:57] <aetherian> pity.
#3632 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Yeah BTLOTM
#3633 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> It says "Taken!"
#3634 [22:58] <BTLOTM> I think my achievements are broken. I've defianently made a hoe, I have bread, and did make at one point the infamous cake.
#3635 [22:58] <bread> .......
#3636 [22:58] <BTLOTM> I have made bread, I mean
#3637 [22:59] <bread> y u make me
#3638 [22:59] <Rainemaker> ive crawled several forums and no answer has been found
#3639 [22:59] <TheNytangel> aw
#3640 [22:59] <TheNytangel> minecraft crashed
#3641 [23:00] <BTLOTM> ...Its just strange.
#3642 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> BTLOTM - Achievements are local to the computer
#3643 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Did you move to a different computer?
#3644 [23:00] <BTLOTM> No. Its all been on the same computer.
#3645 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Did you reinstall minecraft, or otherwise move or delete the /.minecraft/stats folder?
#3646 [23:01] <BTLOTM> Nope. Its all been today.
#3647 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
#3648 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Did you do this on single player?
#3649 [23:01] <BTLOTM> Yes.
#3650 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#3651 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> I don't know then...
#3652 [23:02] <BTLOTM> I mean, its no big deal, its more like a curious thing, as I've made several loafs of bread.
#3653 [23:02] <Rainemaker> can anyone even see this?
#3654 [23:02] <TheNytangel> yes Rainemaker
#3655 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Rainemaker - Yes
#3656 [23:02] <TheNytangel> :P
#3657 [23:02] <Rainemaker> ok
#3658 [23:02] <Rainemaker> just making sure
#3659 [23:03] <bread> gah
#3660 [23:03] <Rainemaker> i wasnt sure if i was voiced or not
#3661 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Rainemaker - You're using the latest 1.5_02 server?
#3662 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> with the latest minecraft client?
#3663 [23:03] <Rainemaker> if thats the one that is downloadable off of the minecraft site
#3664 [23:03] <Rainemaker> jar file
#3665 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3666 [23:03] <Rainemaker> compatible with bukki
#3667 [23:03] <Rainemaker> bukkit*
#3668 [23:03] <Rainemaker> latest bukkit
#3669 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Um, bukkit. as far as I know, hasn't updated yet
#3670 [23:04] <Rainemaker> iconomy plug configured by the book
#3671 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> They're still on test builds
#3672 [23:04] <Rainemaker> as well as permissions configured by the book
#3673 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> What does your server say, when you first launch it?
#3674 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> What's the first line?
#3675 [23:04] <Rainemaker> hmm
#3676 [23:05] <Rainemaker> it says beta 1.4
#3677 [23:05] <Rainemaker> but i got the jar from the MC website
#3678 [23:05] <TheNytangel> !server
#3679 [23:05] <Rainemaker> so i dont know how the hell
#3680 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, bukkit isn't updated for 1.5 yet
#3681 [23:05] <Rainemaker> ah
#3682 [23:05] <Rainemaker> gotcha
#3683 [23:05] <Rainemaker> so where can i find the 1.4 server?
#3684 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> If you launch the vanilla .jar, you'll be able to run 1.5
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#3686 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> We don't really provide support for older versions here.. sorry.
#3687 [23:06] <Rainemaker> i figured as much
#3688 [23:06] <Rainemaker> but i really want plugins
#3689 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit and grab their latest 1.5 test build
#3690 [23:06] <Rainemaker> i see
#3691 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> I don't know how far they've gotten yet
#3692 [23:06] <Rainemaker> let me hit their website then
#3693 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Don't know if bukkit 1.5's going to be available on the website
#3694 [23:07] <Rainemaker> ill check both
#3695 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard, yesterday, 1.5 isn't for public consumption.
#3696 [23:07] <Rainemaker> i just dont really like irc, ever since i got nailed with a virus on undernet
#3697 [23:08] * GreyVulpine nods
#3697 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> You're pretty safe, unless your client automatically accepts dcc sends
#3698 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> No real way to transfer a file over IRC without it
#3699 [23:09] <bokaholic> How come with double doors, one door stays open and then closes when I step on a plate.. nd the other one stays closed but opens when I step on a plate?
#3700 [23:09] <bokaholic> wth
#3701 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> It's the way doors work.
#3702 [23:09] <bokaholic> >.<
#3703 [23:09] <TheNytangel> put the plate on the other block
#3704 [23:09] <bokaholic> Other block?
#3705 [23:10] <TheNytangel> if its on the right block (in front or behind the door) put it on the left one
#3706 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> One door has to rotate clockwise to open, while the other has to rotate counter-clockwise
#3707 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> The door that rotates clockwise, will start closed unpowered
#3708 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> The door that rotates counter-clockwise, will start in an open position
#3709 [23:11] <bokaholic> You see this?: :(
#3710 [23:11] <bokaholic> That's my sad face.
#3711 [23:11] <TheNytangel> usually from the outside, the door on the right is open
#3712 [23:11] <bokaholic> For doors.
#3713 [23:11] <TheNytangel> i believe
#3714 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Just place a torch underneath the door that's open
#3715 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Will power the door that's usually open, to be closed
#3716 [23:12] <bokaholic> Ohh..
#3717 [23:12] <bokaholic> See, this is be my first attempt with 'power'.
#3718 [23:12] * bokaholic is learning.
#3718 [23:13] <Rainemaker> got it working thanks guys
#3719 [23:14] <Rainemaker> it needed the new test build of bukkit
#3720 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Glad you got it working.
#3721 [23:14] <Rainemaker> i hope they have ironed most of the stuff out
#3722 [23:14] <Rainemaker> lol
#3723 [23:14] <Rainemaker> seeya later guys and thanks again
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#3725 [23:15] * lol
#3725 [23:16] <Oath> Hey so question, anyone know how to downgrade a Minecraft client from 1.5 to 1.4_1 or whatever version was just before the 1.5 version
#3726 [23:16] <Oath> legitly not the hacked or random mediafire ways
#3727 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> We don't really provide support for older versions here, or how to get older versions
#3728 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.net doesn't host anything but the latest.
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#3730 [23:17] <Oath> dang hmkay :/ thanks for responding anyway
#3731 [23:17] <bokaholic> Do I just put the torch directly under the door? Or under both enter nd exit plate?
#3732 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> The redstone torch will be under the block that's directly under the door
#3733 [23:18] <TheNytangel> bokaholic, the block the door sits on, put it under that
#3734 [23:18] <Cial> Notch really needs to keep a public backlog of the files
#3735 [23:19] <bokaholic> okie.
#3736 [23:19] <TheNytangel> and then the wiring doesnt go directly into the torch
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#3738 [23:20] <bokaholic> Doesn't?
#3739 [23:20] <TheNytangel> nope
#3740 [23:20] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3741 [23:20] * bokaholic looks online as not to bug the channel :)
#3741 [23:20] <TheNytangel> its ok
#3742 [23:20] <bokaholic> I'm clueless. I'm sorry :x
#3743 [23:21] <TheNytangel> ok so the torch is on the block
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#3745 [23:21] <TheNytangel> you dont need to do what i say, but pretty close
#3746 [23:21] <bokaholic> The door is closed now. but the plates still aren't triggering it.
#3747 [23:21] <TheNytangel> psh
#3748 [23:21] <TheNytangel> is this multiplayer or singleplayer?
#3749 [23:21] <bokaholic> Multiplayer
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#3751 [23:21] <TheNytangel> may i join your server and help you?
#3752 [23:22] <bokaholic> Sure. What's your MC name so I can whitelist you?
#3753 [23:22] <TheNytangel> TheNytanegl
#3754 [23:22] <TheNytangel> TheNytangel*
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#3758 [23:36] <snarkyboy> My laptop has good specs but the fps is pretty bad- anyone willing to help?
#3759 [23:37] <frodo> guess he didn't need help that bad.
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#3763 [23:48] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine
#3764 [23:49] <TheNytangel> dah redstone is borked
#3765 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3766 [23:50] <lrwerewolf> Redstone's implementation is intrinsically borked. This is not new. :P
#3767 [23:50] <TheNytangel> it works in 1 spot, but an exact replica doesnt work
#3768 [23:50] <lrwerewolf> Which reminds me, so need to brush up my java and see if I can't write a mod to completely redo the redstone implementation.
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