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#2 [00:06] <TheNytangel> AkiTensai, yes
#3 [00:06] <TheNytangel> therefore, it melts snow
#4 [00:06] <TheNytangel> :P
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#8 [00:09] <bt321> hello?
#9 [00:11] <bt321> well...might as well dump my question anyway...the only online money i currently have is a prepaid, but sadly, you cant buy minecraft with a prepaid, so would it be possible to somehow transfer my funds into paypal, then pay for it through paypal?
#10 [00:11] <bt321> *blink blink*
#11 [00:11] <AkiTensai> Assuming a paypal account supports the feature.
#12 [00:12] <bt321> the thing is, you acnt transfer funds iton your own account with any type of card
#13 [00:12] <bt321> so, is it possible to pay other accounts with a pre paid?
#14 [00:12] <xales> Yes, but you cannot send money from the account unless it has a verified card attached to it
#15 [00:13] <bt321> can one attach a pre paid card?
#16 [00:13] <xales> You can only attach a card to one account
#17 [00:13] <AkiTensai> ?? prepaid
#18 [00:13] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#19 [00:14] <bt321> interesting, i can only seem to find ways to attach bank accounts
#20 [00:14] <bt321> not indiviudla cards
#21 [00:14] <bt321> am i just blind?
#22 [00:14] <xales> bt321: "Profile -> Add Credit Card"
#23 [00:14] <xales> ._.
#24 [00:15] <bt321> ....
#25 [00:15] <bt321> well then
#26 [00:15] <bt321> so, do the actual funds go to paypal --> notch
#27 [00:15] <bt321> or does paypal simply drawa from the card
#28 [00:15] <bt321> because obviously, thats a no no
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#30 [00:16] <xales> You can't make international transactions with it, plain and simple
#31 [00:16] <xales> even if you use Paypal, it will still deny it
#32 [00:16] <bt321> hmmm, but does paypal itself do international?
#33 [00:16] <xales> Yes
#34 [00:16] <bt321> if it were to, i could send the moeny around to different accounts then buy minecraft
#35 [00:17] <xales> If you had another account that's "verified," you could send money to it
#36 [00:17] <xales> and use Paypal Funds in that account to buy it
#37 [00:18] <bt321> this is alot of work, but better than pirating it amirite?
#38 [00:18] <bt321> also, your going to think im an idiot, but i still cant find a way to add a credit card
#39 [00:18] <bt321> you can attack bank accounts
#40 [00:19] <bt321> oh.. nvm lawl
#41 [00:20] <bt321> goddamn it, you have to link a bank account to verify
#42 [00:20] <bt321> i give up
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#45 [00:20] <mr_sticky> Where is the KINGDOM OF HYRULE server?
#46 [00:20] <xales> How would we know?
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#49 [00:21] <mr_sticky> The link dissappaered, maybe it's private?
#50 [00:21] <xales> I wouldn't know
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#52 [00:22] <mr_sticky> Is there a link to private servers?
#53 [00:22] <x66dme66x> ok. i dont understand IRC and i dont know which IRC to join to get help with making a mod. -.-
#54 [00:22] <x66dme66x> and i tried registering on the #Minecraft one. i never got a confirmation email
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#56 [00:24] <xales> mr_sticky: No
#57 [00:24] <xales> x66dme66x: #risucraft probably, and if you didn't get an email, you used an AOL address or did not register properly
#58 [00:25] <ferminter> hey guys i have an issue with bukkit, and the people at bukkit are really snobbish and elitist
#59 [00:25] <x66dme66x> oh crap.. i did use AOL ;p
#60 [00:25] <xales> ferminter: Well, sorry to hear that. We can't help with it here
#61 [00:26] <ferminter> well vanilla server works fine
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#69 [01:11] <quibbit> any1 kno how to play multiplayer
#70 [01:11] <xales> uh, you click the "Multiplayer" button and type the IP of the server you want to play on
#71 [01:11] * VoxelHead is back
#71 [01:11] <quibbit> where do i find ip's
#72 [01:12] <quibbit> that work
#73 [01:12] <xales> ??> quibbit smp/servers
#74 [01:12] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#75 [01:12] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#76 [01:13] <quibbit> it said connection lost failed to login
#77 [01:14] <xales> What is your Minecraft username?
#78 [01:14] <quibbit> noobsforever
#79 [01:14] <xales> ??> quibbit win/reinst
#80 [01:14] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#81 [01:14] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#91 [01:38] <Kxania> Anyone know of a (preferably HTML) server online/offline status checker?
#92 [01:39] <Kxania> Is anyone online? aha
#93 [01:40] <Kxania> !check inforgamtion.dyndns.org
#94 [01:40] <xales> Kxania: http://minestatus.net/
#95 [01:40] <xales> should be able to do what you want
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#97 [01:42] <Kxania> Not really. . .
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#99 [01:43] <xales> Kxania: Oh, I see, nevermind
#100 [01:43] <xales> ._.
#101 [01:43] <Kxania> I'm looking for code that will periodically ping a certain server, and display an image saying if it is offline/online.
#102 [01:44] <Kxania> I've searched around, and there are a few, but not many of them seem to work.
#103 [01:44] <xales> Minestatus will do that (the online/offline image) but only for servers you add to it
#104 [01:51] <Kxania> Cool thanks..
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#106 [01:56] <Kxania> Be sure to check out the site! :P inforgamtion.tumblr.com
#107 [01:56] <Kxania> xD bye
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#110 [01:58] <tjz> Hello...
#111 [01:59] <xales> Hi
#112 [01:59] <tjz> hey xales
#113 [01:59] <tjz> :D
#114 [01:59] <VoxelHead> :-)
#115 [01:59] <tjz> thx for the welcome
#116 [01:59] <tjz> :p
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#119 [02:01] <Kxania> !check inforgamtion.dyndns.org
#120 [02:01] <Kxania> Hmmmm.
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#122 [02:02] <Kxania> How often does MineStatus update?
#123 [02:03] <Kxania> ?
#124 [02:03] <aetherian> what
#125 [02:03] <aetherian> Minestatus?
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#127 [02:04] <Kxania> Y.e.a.h
#128 [02:04] <Kxania> Minestatus.net
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#130 [02:05] <aetherian> I am in no way, shape, or form officially affiliated with that site.
#131 [02:05] <Kxania> :P
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#134 [02:07] <VoxelHead> Watch out for the moose.
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#149 [03:22] <phreak97> I just got my friend to buy minecfat and he's having the error at login: "Cant connect to minecraft.net"
#150 [03:22] <phreak97> any ideas?
#151 [03:23] <phreak97> minecraft too
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#155 [03:28] <phreak97> uhh.. if anyone replied before I didnt get it
#156 [03:28] <Dalik17> no-one replied.
#157 [03:28] <phreak97> bum
#158 [03:29] <aetherian> mer
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#165 [03:39] <AkiTensai> phreak97: Sounds like internet issues. Is it safe to assume they can get online?
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#167 [03:41] <nem> having some trouble with a simple redstone AND gate, anyone know of any bugs with this?
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#169 [03:42] <VoxelHead> You want the truth? you can't handle the truth!
#170 [03:42] <nordyalex> hello?
#171 [03:42] <nem> ive made em before without problems, also i made one in another location without problem just now
#172 [03:42] <nem> but i cant get it to work at its current location no matter what..
#173 [03:42] <nem> the switch wont trigger the torch to go L
#174 [03:42] <AkiTensai> Odd. Give me a moment to go build one over here.
#175 [03:42] <nem> it wont even trigger the dust..
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#177 [03:43] <nem> if i remove torch it will trigger the dust tho
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#179 [03:43] <nem> i dunno, might be something around it messing up..
#180 [03:47] <AkiTensai> nem: Just tested this and gate and it worked form me just fine. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits
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#182 [03:47] <nem> AkiTensai: yeah.. i made one outside of the room im trying to get to work, and that worked just fine
#183 [03:47] <nem> hang on a sec
#184 [03:48] <AkiTensai> Bum area then. Try breaking a part of it that hasn't been touched in a while and replace it.
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#186 [03:50] <nem> ok so i removed all the blocks (3x3)
#187 [03:50] <nem> i placed 5 dirt blocks, 1 for the switch, redstone and the torch
#188 [03:50] <nem> switch will trigger dust but not torch, as if the torch is being powered constantly
#189 [03:51] <nem> but there is nothing around it :\
#190 [03:51] <nem> im gonna make a fraps
#191 [03:54] <AkiTensai> I recall there being a glitch with levers based that could make them not work right in certain situations. The solution suggested placing it while facing a different direction. Let me try and find the source
#192 [03:55] <nem> hm, maybe thats it, although i am facing the same direction when i made the duplicate outside
#193 [03:55] <nem> but its not on the same loc ofc..
#194 [03:55] <nem> or im doing something wrong/overlooking something
#195 [03:55] <nem> gonna try this fraps thing and see if i can make it abit easier to see what im doing
#196 [03:56] <AkiTensai> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits "Switches on top of blocks are slightly buggy. If you put a switch on top of a block, make sure that it works properly immediately. [continues at link]"
#197 [03:59] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] livestreaming (Anonymous) - Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:56:22 +0000
#198 [04:00] * AkiTensai blinks.
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#200 [04:10] <nem> yeah i read that earlier AkiTensai, im not trying to place it on top tho :\
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#202 [04:10] <nem> (and im working on that fraps thing.. gotta get the filesize down a bit so i can upload it)
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#204 [04:17] <AkiTensai> nem: Its 2am for me. I'm hitting the sac shortly.
#205 [04:17] <nem> ok no worries
#206 [04:17] <AkiTensai> Good luck. All else fails, put another layer of dirt or remove a layer >.>
#207 [04:17] <nem> feel like taking a break myself, i will give it another go later and see if i can get stuff to work, if not i will just move the door to an area i can get it working.. :)
#208 [04:17] <nem> yeah or that.. :=)
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#210 [04:32] <aetherian> goin' to bed early
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#213 [04:34] <wH> don't go it's just what they want you to do
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#216 [04:36] <mib_as1l6x> Hello
#217 [04:36] <mib_as1l6x> I am looking to find moderators for my Server.
#218 [04:38] <Juze> Try "Starting Up / Looking for a server" forums? :P
#219 [04:38] <Juze> On MCF
#220 [04:39] <wH> I would love to oh wait my GPU has died
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#228 [04:54] <Luminus> Hello
#229 [04:55] <Juze> Hey
#230 [04:55] <Luminus> I have some bad problems with minecraft
#231 [04:55] <Juze> Tell us
#232 [04:55] <Luminus> Everytime i place a block
#233 [04:55] <Luminus> It crashes
#234 [04:55] <Juze> Using any mods, texture packs?
#235 [04:55] <Luminus> And i tryed with diffrent's texture pack's
#236 [04:55] <Luminus> I deleted my mods and texture packs
#237 [04:55] <Juze> Have you tried MCPatcher Beta 4?
#238 [04:55] <[L]> Texture packs don't usually make adifference
#239 [04:56] <[L]> Probably a corrupted .jar
#240 [04:56] <Luminus> Im on a mac
#241 [04:56] <Juze> They do because of the patcher
#242 [04:56] <Juze> Beta 3 has a bug with that
#243 [04:56] <Juze> Beta 4 fixes it for 1.5_01
#244 [04:56] <Luminus> But im on a mac
#245 [04:56] <Luminus> I saw it was on a pc
#246 [04:56] <Luminus> U needed it.
#247 [04:57] <Juze> So, have you tried with the default texture pack and clean install of .jar?
#248 [04:57] <Juze> Redownloading the .jar
#249 [04:57] <Luminus> Yes
#250 [04:57] <Luminus> Well
#251 [04:57] <Juze> And is this in SMP or SSP, or both?
#252 [04:57] <Luminus> Both
#253 [04:57] <Luminus> I have default texture pack
#254 [04:57] <Luminus> But mabye its my zombe's mod
#255 [04:58] <Juze> Tried removing the zombe's modpack?
#256 [04:58] <Luminus> Well
#257 [04:58] <Luminus> I cant
#258 [04:58] <Juze> Why not?
#259 [04:58] <Juze> Just redownload .jar
#260 [04:58] <Luminus> It create's a new folder everytime i start minecraft¨
#261 [04:58] <Juze> Just delete the bin folder, let it redownload it
#262 [04:59] <Luminus> Well
#263 [04:59] <Luminus> I did that alot of times
#264 [04:59] <Luminus> On diffrent's ways
#265 [04:59] <Luminus> But it create's a new log.txt everytime
#266 [05:00] <Juze> Zombe's log?
#267 [05:00] <Luminus> Yes
#268 [05:00] <Juze> If you delete your bin folder, you shouldn't have zombe's mod installed in .jar anymore
#269 [05:00] <Juze> -> You're doing something wrong
#270 [05:01] <Luminus> Should i delete the mod's folder or the zombe's folder?
#271 [05:01] <Juze> None, it doesn't matter if you got zombe's config in there
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#273 [05:01] <Juze> Just delete your Minecraft
#274 [05:01] <Luminus> Okay
#275 [05:02] <Juze> Minecraft.jar
#276 [05:02] <Juze> Is enough
#277 [05:02] <Juze> If you want to be sure, delete bin
#278 [05:02] <Luminus> Ill try i
#279 [05:02] <Luminus> it*
#280 [05:03] <Luminus> Does mabye this have something to do with mac's
#281 [05:03] <Luminus> Because minecraft worked fine before on my mac
#282 [05:04] <Luminus> Crashes again
#283 [05:04] <Luminus> I even tryed a new minecraft
#284 [05:04] <Luminus> and it crashed
#285 [05:04] <Juze> You sure it downloads a new Minecraft?
#286 [05:04] <Luminus> yes
#287 [05:04] <Luminus> Minecraft.zip
#288 [05:04] <Juze> There's not supposed to be any .zip o_O
#289 [05:05] <Juze> Are you using a cracked/pirate version?
#290 [05:05] <Luminus> Nope
#291 [05:05] <Luminus> I bought it
#292 [05:05] <Juze> Yup I checked
#293 [05:05] <Luminus> Let me show u what i ment with zip
#294 [05:06] <Luminus> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#295 [05:06] <Luminus> Look down at macs
#296 [05:06] <Juze> There's no .zip down there, just .jar :P
#297 [05:06] <Juze> If you got some Zip program to open .jar files, you've done it wrong too
#298 [05:06] <Luminus> Mac: OSXC´
#299 [05:06] <Luminus> OSX*
#300 [05:06] <Luminus> It say's a zip
#301 [05:08] <Luminus> Lol im confuse
#302 [05:08] <Luminus> Confused
#303 [05:09] <SlashLife^m> Juze, .jars are just zips ...
#304 [05:10] <Juze> Basically yes but they should be launched with Java, not zip :P
#305 [05:10] <Juze> By default
#306 [05:10] <wH> So, uh
#307 [05:10] <Luminus> But
#308 [05:10] <wH> would anyone happen to be verse in solving 3D collisions?
#309 [05:10] <Luminus> It doesnt create a new minecraft
#310 [05:11] <Luminus> it says the same and keeps the way zombe's mod are...
#311 [05:12] <Luminus> Does it have something to do with Advanced OpenGL?A
#312 [05:12] <Luminus> Juze still having some problems
#313 [05:13] <Juze> Advanced OpenGL has nothing to do with it
#314 [05:15] <Luminus> Yes but it's still crashes when i place something
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#318 [05:18] <Luminus> It's very annoying :O
#319 [05:19] <wH> Check if your GPU isn't dead
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#321 [05:21] <Luminus> It isnt
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#323 [05:22] <wH> I'm out of ideas
#324 [05:24] <Luminus> Juze Do u have any idea's ?
#325 [05:24] <Juze> If I'm not saying anything, what do you think?
#326 [05:24] <Luminus> Working...
#327 [05:24] <Juze> Okay, no ideas
#328 [05:24] <Luminus> Well
#329 [05:25] <Luminus> Are u working for mojang?
#330 [05:26] <lemon-rev> luminus
#331 [05:26] <lemon-rev> how long has this prob been for you
#332 [05:26] <lemon-rev> and no i dont work for mojang,
#333 [05:26] <lemon-rev> im just a player and sometimes i help in here
#334 [05:26] <Juze> Nobody here is affliated with Mojang
#335 [05:27] <Luminus> Well
#336 [05:27] <Luminus> There must be some explaination
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#338 [05:27] <wH> Many of you don't realize but...
#339 [05:27] <lemon-rev> how many times have you like totally reinstalled/ removed /bin dir /reinstal java
#340 [05:28] <lemon-rev> and update drivers
#341 [05:28] <lemon-rev> what os
#342 [05:28] <Luminus> To many
#343 [05:28] <wH> Re-install os
#344 [05:28] <lemon-rev> luminus how long has the prob been with you and minecraft ?
#345 [05:29] <Luminus> Yesterday
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#347 [05:29] <lemon-rev> did it work before then
#348 [05:29] <lemon-rev> ?
#349 [05:29] <Luminus> Yes
#350 [05:30] <lemon-rev> so
#351 [05:30] <lemon-rev> what you do ?
#352 [05:30] <Luminus> I place a block and i crash
#353 [05:30] <Luminus> if u use a tool
#354 [05:30] <Luminus> crash
#355 [05:30] <lemon-rev> yea, but what did you do to your computer to fuck it up
#356 [05:30] <Luminus> Mac's
#357 [05:30] <Luminus> Never fuck up
#358 [05:30] <lemon-rev> lol
#359 [05:30] <cbreaker> lol
#360 [05:31] <lemon-rev> i think your confused
#361 [05:31] <Luminus> :P
#362 [05:31] <Luminus> Your right
#363 [05:31] <lemon-rev> so, ill ask again what did you do to your computer to fuck up minecraft ?
#364 [05:31] <cbreaker> You should delete system 32
#365 [05:32] <lemon-rev> now that could be fun
#366 [05:32] <lemon-rev> lol
#367 [05:32] <cbreaker> ha
#368 [05:32] <lemon-rev> no more pc or mac
#369 [05:32] <lemon-rev> :P
#370 [05:33] <s> deleting appdata is more fun
#371 [05:33] <Luminus> Well mabye its minecraft fucked up my computer
#372 [05:33] <s> If you want to just stop your computer, delete ntldr
#373 [05:33] <lemon-rev> luminus if you had mc working then something else not mc got your comptuer fucked
#374 [05:33] <cbreaker> you could always play on browser mode
#375 [05:34] <Luminus> Nope Its probz the update
#376 [05:34] <lemon-rev> mayhap, so just wait it out then but no one else i think is having this trouble
#377 [05:34] <Luminus> My 5 friends have it
#378 [05:34] <Luminus> In SSP
#379 [05:35] <Luminus> And talked to other's too
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#396 [06:30] <[E]MARANTz> Anyone who can suggest a good Minecraft server to me? I prefer a pretty new one! :) msg me
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#398 [06:32] <gPad2002> Is there anyone in #bukkit here?
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#400 [06:32] <gPad2002> I need to know who the ops are
#401 [06:33] <fogWraith> The bukkit crew = ops
#402 [06:33] <gPad2002> Yes, but I can't join the channel so I don't know who is online
#403 [06:34] <lemon-rev> gpad2002 what channel ?
#404 [06:34] <fogWraith> Dunno which one of them is actually there or idling, but Grum, EvilSeph, lukegb, Tahg etc
#405 [06:34] <gPad2002> Someone banned my entire bouncer because of one of the users; same happened in #help
#406 [06:34] <gPad2002> lemon-rev: #bukkit
#407 [06:34] <lemon-rev> oh, i see
#408 [06:34] <gPad2002> Thanks, fogWraith
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#410 [06:34] <lemon-rev> well if some one banned a whole range then yea, ooo
#411 [06:35] <gPad2002> Yeah, they did
#412 [06:35] <gPad2002> That's seven users :P
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#414 [06:35] <phreak97> I just got my friend to buy minecfat and he's having the error at login: "Cant connect to minecraft.net"
#415 [06:35] <fogWraith> This is why you password and limit your bouncer ;P
#416 [06:35] <phreak97> any ideas?
#417 [06:35] <gPad2002> fogWraith: I do
#418 [06:35] <gPad2002> Derp
#419 [06:35] <lemon-rev> phreak97 i know its having trouble tonight
#420 [06:36] <lemon-rev> just keep telling him to try to download the update and connect
#421 [06:36] <phreak97> hmm ok
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#423 [06:37] <phreak97> force update doesnt work
#424 [06:37] <phreak97> the same exe works on my pc
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#426 [06:37] <phreak97> but not on his
#427 [06:37] <lemon-rev> it wont work unless your connected to minecraft.exe
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#429 [06:37] <User> Can anyone help Me?
#430 [06:37] <User> I got a problem with Minecraft
#431 [06:37] <phreak97> minecraft.exe is what wont connect
#432 [06:38] <User> So?
#433 [06:38] <fogWraith> Ask it right out, User, don't ask to ask
#434 [06:39] <User> I got a problem with Minecraft. When I am playing, sometimes the minecraft quits and fatal java error appears.
#435 [06:39] <fogWraith> My magic crystal ball is at the shop
#436 [06:39] <User> I got this second time.
#437 [06:39] <fogWraith> Can you copy the error and paste it on pastebin.org?
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#439 [06:40] <User> Can I just "Spam" this chat with the whole report?
#440 [06:40] <User> I will paste the error here
#441 [06:40] <fogWraith> Please use pastebin.org
#442 [06:40] <fogWraith> Then give us the link
#443 [06:40] <User> I only see pastebin.com
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#445 [06:41] <fogWraith> Use that then, I may be thinking of pastie.org
#446 [06:42] <User> http://pastie.org/1830941
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#448 [06:44] <fogWraith> CPU and RAM looks decent enough to run it without issues
#449 [06:44] * fogWraith looks some more
#449 [06:44] <fogWraith> Running any mods?
#450 [06:44] <User> No.
#451 [06:44] <User> All clean.
#452 [06:44] <User> For first 3 days everything was alright.
#453 [06:44] <User> I scanned My computer 2 times EVERYWHERE and no viruses.
#454 [06:44] <fogWraith> What happens if you run minecraft.exe without passing any arguments?
#455 [06:45] <User> Sometimes when I run Minecraft.exe, it says it can't find something
#456 [06:45] <User> Wait I'll try now maybe the error will appear
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#458 [06:45] <fogWraith> Okay
#459 [06:46] <ucom> i think i have the same problem, started efter Java got updated i believe
#460 [06:46] <User> Damn, the error doesn't want to appear
#461 [06:46] <User> But it says minecraft couldn't find some file
#462 [06:46] <User> Then when I am trying to start up second time, no errors.
#463 [06:46] <gPad2002> Okay
#464 [06:46] <fogWraith> Probably says something about not finding any OpenGL stuff or something with pixel acceleration of awesome?
#465 [06:46] <User> Nope.
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#467 [06:47] <gPad2002> That's #bukkit sorted
#468 [06:47] <gPad2002> Now to do #help
#469 [06:47] <gPad2002> The IRCops in #dragonweyr aren't saying much.. Don't join, by the way
#470 [06:47] <User> Oh wait Wraith
#471 [06:47] <fogWraith> gPad2002, raiden, anna, pnk, Hikaru
#472 [06:47] <User> I got the error
#473 [06:48] <User> It says: "
#474 [06:48] <gPad2002> I can't query the ircops..
#475 [06:48] <fogWraith> gPad2002, fixato and dna
#476 [06:48] <fogWraith> :P
#477 [06:48] <User> "Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit."
#478 [06:48] <User> But what's up with the Java error?
#479 [06:48] <fogWraith> User, that sounds a bit troublesome... thats from running minecraft.exe?
#480 [06:48] <User> Yes.
#481 [06:49] <gPad2002> mr_flea is in here but is AFK, I'll talk to him later
#482 [06:49] <fogWraith> Hit the windows button on your keyboard followed by R, or go to start and hit run from there
#483 [06:49] <User> It's: (Java Virtual Machine Launcher) "Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit.
#484 [06:49] <fogWraith> Type in %appdata%
#485 [06:49] <User> I got another languane
#486 [06:49] <User> Language*
#487 [06:49] <fogWraith> Oh?
#488 [06:49] <User> But I know what do You mean.
#489 [06:49] <fogWraith> If you have singleplayer maps you want to keep, copy them from the .minecraft folder
#490 [06:49] <User> You want Me to find the .minecraft folder, right?
#491 [06:49] <fogWraith> Otherwise just delete it
#492 [06:50] <User> Uh, I tried that...
#493 [06:50] <fogWraith> Ah
#494 [06:50] * fogWraith scratches beard
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#495 [06:50] <User> But I care about the Java error.
#496 [06:50] <fogWraith> Can you pastie.org the new error?
#497 [06:50] <User> Reinstall should fix it?
#498 [06:50] <User> It's: (Java Virtual Machine Launcher) "Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit.
#499 [06:50] <User> This is the new error
#500 [06:50] <fogWraith> It might fix it, but then, it could not... best shot would be to try
#501 [06:51] <User> But the error above doesn't do anything.
#502 [06:51] <fogWraith> minecraft.exe -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#503 [06:51] <fogWraith> What if you launch it like that?
#504 [06:51] <User> Uh, where
#505 [06:51] <fogWraith> Through a terminal window
#506 [06:51] <User> The "Run" from Windows bar?
#507 [06:51] <fogWraith> Well, if you type cmd in the run window
#508 [06:52] <fogWraith> navigate to where you have minecraft.exe
#509 [06:52] <gPad2002> Using cd
#510 [06:52] <User> Lol I got minecraft.exe on desktop
#511 [06:52] <fogWraith> Pass the arguments to java, like so: java -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#512 [06:52] <User> Should I put it in .minecraft?
#513 [06:52] <fogWraith> Nah
#514 [06:52] <gPad2002> No no
#515 [06:52] <fogWraith> Don't move it :)
#516 [06:52] <fogWraith> When you open a terminal you should be able to type CD DESKTOP
#517 [06:53] <User> And?
#518 [06:53] <fogWraith> or if another language, like skrivbord or something
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#520 [06:53] <fogWraith> Then pass the java string
#521 [06:53] <fogWraith> java -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#522 [06:53] <User> I think I'll use the translator
#523 [06:53] <fogWraith> Which is your native language?
#524 [06:53] <User> Polish
#525 [06:53] <fogWraith> Ah, not familiar with that one, sorry ;/
#526 [06:54] <User> Who would be.
#527 [06:54] <fogWraith> Linguists? :P
#528 [06:54] <User> Yep
#529 [06:54] <User> Or it's maybe Minecraft isn't original?
#530 [06:54] <User> :S
#531 [06:55] <gPad2002> I would suggest
#532 [06:55] <fogWraith> Wait, I just woke up and am a bit tired, just noticed something by not skimming your first error
#533 [06:55] <fogWraith> # Problematic frame:
#534 [06:55] <fogWraith> # C [OpenAL32.dll+0xc059]
#535 [06:55] <gPad2002> Using the jar launcher
#536 [06:55] <gPad2002> Rather than the EXE
#537 [06:55] <User> Is that possible those errors appear because Minecraft isn't original?
#538 [06:55] <gPad2002> Uh
#539 [06:56] <gPad2002> How do you know it isn't?
#540 [06:56] <User> DLed?
#541 [06:56] <User> I DLed it to try it. And now I am buying original Minecraft.
#542 [06:56] <fogWraith> User, try updating the drivers for your soundcard
#543 [06:56] <gPad2002> Ah
#544 [06:56] <gPad2002> That's the problem
#545 [06:56] <fogWraith> I skimmed through your error message the first time, I had another look
#546 [06:56] <User> So the not original Minecraft is just being bad?
#547 [06:57] <gPad2002> If you want to play survival, you need to buy the game
#548 [06:57] <gPad2002> That said,
#549 [06:57] <gPad2002> There's a demo
#550 [06:57] <gPad2002> On PCGamwe
#551 [06:57] <gPad2002> PCGamer
#552 [06:57] <gPad2002> So you could try that
#553 [06:57] <User> Derp
#554 [06:57] <User> I got free survival
#555 [06:57] <fogWraith> User, soundcard drivers :)
#556 [06:57] <fogWraith> Update them
#557 [06:57] <gPad2002> fogWraith: Shush
#558 [06:57] <User> Ze drivers
#559 [06:57] <gPad2002> He doesn't own the game
#560 [06:57] <User> Yep, but I will :O
#561 [06:57] <gPad2002> Well
#562 [06:57] <gPad2002> When you do
#563 [06:58] <gPad2002> You can get the real launcher from minecraft.net
#564 [06:58] <gPad2002> Which is the one you want
#565 [06:58] <User> So I will trash the launcher i currently have.
#566 [06:58] <User> Understand, I don't like to buy games that aren't interesing or go into pieces in few uses.
#567 [06:58] <User> Lol
#568 [06:58] <gPad2002> :P
#569 [06:58] * fogWraith understands that
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#570 [06:59] <User> Well, I can tell You from where I got it.
#571 [06:59] <User> But I think I shouldn't
#572 [06:59] <gPad2002> ^
#573 [06:59] <fogWraith> Best to keep it to yourself tbh
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#575 [06:59] <fogWraith> Either way, fix the soundcard drivers and the problems should be out of the way
#576 [07:00] <User> I am 100% sure the soundcard drivers are updated to the latest.
#577 [07:00] <fogWraith> # Problematic frame:
#578 [07:00] <fogWraith> # C [OpenAL32.dll+0xc059]
#579 [07:00] <fogWraith> OpenAL = soundies
#580 [07:00] <User> And tell Me: Should I reinstall the Java too?
#581 [07:01] <gPad2002> Yu could try it
#582 [07:01] <gPad2002> You*
#583 [07:01] <User> Damn, now I'll need to wait the whole day or 2.
#584 [07:01] <fogWraith> gPad2002, I ordered movies last week and got one that wasn't the one that I ordered :|
#585 [07:02] <gPad2002> Lol.
#586 [07:02] <gPad2002> It happens
#587 [07:02] <fogWraith> Well, in the package there was supposed to be Thirteen Ghosts, but I got Thirteen Erotic Ghosts
#588 [07:02] <fogWraith> :|
#589 [07:02] <User> Wat?
#590 [07:03] <gPad2002> Lol wit
#591 [07:03] <User> Then watch it naow.
#592 [07:03] <gPad2002> Wut*
#593 [07:03] <fogWraith> Yeah theres a sheity movie called 13 erotic ghosts >:|
#594 [07:03] <User> Is that about 13 ghosts having sex?
#595 [07:03] <User> Or the title is just tricky?
#596 [07:03] <NotiCon> fogWraith: lol sounds like they want you to watch it instead
#597 [07:04] <gPad2002> Watch it anyway
#598 [07:04] <gPad2002> For the lulz
#599 [07:04] <fogWraith> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329954/ vs http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245674/
#600 [07:04] <User> Ordered from: Necrophiliasupermovies
#601 [07:04] <User> Lololo
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#603 [07:04] <fogWraith> I mean, how do you even mess up like that? ;/
#604 [07:04] <gPad2002> Heh
#605 [07:05] <User> Lol
#606 [07:05] <gPad2002> It's a gothic porno
#607 [07:05] <User> Oh man.
#608 [07:05] <User> Wraith
#609 [07:05] <User> Maybe there isn't Thirteen Ghosts.
#610 [07:05] <gPad2002> ~title
#611 [07:05] <McPlusPlus> "Thirteen Erotic Ghosts (2002) - IMDb" (http://is.gd/R0TvgF)
#612 [07:05] <gPad2002> :P
#613 [07:06] <fogWraith> Well, I'll call them when their office opens in the morning and file a complaint + want the title I ordered :P
#614 [07:06] <gPad2002> Make a backup of the DVD and leak it as punishment :P
#615 [07:06] <fogWraith> Pfft, not breaking the plastic seal on it :P
#616 [07:06] <User> Lol
#617 [07:07] <User> Every erotic movie is good...
#618 [07:07] <gPad2002> :P
#619 [07:07] <User> But only hetero omg
#620 [07:07] <gPad2002> Lol
#621 [07:07] <gPad2002> There are lesbians in that, according to imdb
#622 [07:08] * fogWraith shakes fist
#622 [07:09] <fogWraith> Speaking of erotic stuff, my brother is getting those 3d pornos for his 3d tv :P
#623 [07:09] <User> For what?
#624 [07:09] <fogWraith> "just because" he said
#625 [07:10] <User> Yeah he watches an erotic movie and a guy jacks off to camera
#626 [07:10] <User> He will be pleased.
#627 [07:10] <fogWraith> Hahaha, yes I'm sure he will be ;)
#628 [07:11] <User> Do it Wraith, steal one of his erotic movie and edit :D
#629 [07:11] <fogWraith> ;D
#630 [07:11] <User> Then he will be like "WTF?!"
#631 [07:11] <User> Also I am poor person because 3D glasses won't work for Me
#632 [07:11] <fogWraith> One of the neat features of his TV is that you can turn a regular 2D movie into a 3D movie... was like, zomg
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#634 [07:12] <gPad2002> User: They don't work for me either
#635 [07:12] <User> They don't work for Me because I am too badass to have 2 working eyes.
#636 [07:13] <gPad2002> Same
#637 [07:13] <gPad2002> My left eye is fucked
#638 [07:13] <fogWraith> I have bad eyes too, so I can't watch those red/cyan 3d movies...
#639 [07:13] <fogWraith> http://www.elgiganten.se/product/ljud-bild/tillbehor-ljud-bild/ovrigt-ljud-bild/SSG2100ABXC/samsung-3d-glasogon
#640 [07:13] <fogWraith> Those work just fine though
#641 [07:13] <gPad2002> Same, again
#642 [07:13] <gPad2002> Hm, I doubt they di
#643 [07:13] <gPad2002> Do*
#644 [07:13] <User> At least I don't need to close one eye when You look thru scope
#645 [07:13] <gPad2002> Lol
#646 [07:13] <User> I will be a good sniper lolol
#647 [07:13] <gPad2002> Win :P
#648 [07:13] <fogWraith> gPad2002, those you can put ontop of your regular glasses if you have that
#649 [07:14] <gPad2002> That might work..
#650 [07:14] <User> Wraith
#651 [07:14] <User> You know what?
#652 [07:14] <User> I was on Ebay
#653 [07:14] <User> I wrote "Jet" for lulz
#654 [07:14] <User> And someone was selling a fukken MIG for 15.000.000
#655 [07:14] <gPad2002> My graphics card supports 3D lol
#656 [07:14] <fogWraith> ;D
#657 [07:14] <User> Everyone's does lol
#658 [07:15] <User> Or You mean the red cyan stuff?
#659 [07:15] <gPad2002> No, I mean like
#660 [07:15] <gPad2002> 3D screens
#661 [07:15] <gPad2002> Etc
#662 [07:15] <User> Ah
#663 [07:15] <User> What graphic card?
#664 [07:15] <gPad2002> Sec while I find out
#665 [07:15] <User> I got a shitty one, GeForce9800GTi
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#667 [07:16] <g> GeForce GTX 460
#668 [07:16] <fogWraith> I still have one of those gfx cards, work just fine :P
#669 [07:16] <g> 1GB
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#671 [07:16] <g> http://i.imgur.com/XflIx.png
#672 [07:17] <g> also, http://i.imgur.com/STW5i.png
#673 [07:17] <g> (Rest of specs)
#674 [07:17] <User> GTX 460 is better than mine?
#675 [07:17] <g> yesh it is
#676 [07:17] <User> Rich basturd
#677 [07:17] <User> Lolol
#678 [07:17] <g> :P
#679 [07:17] <User> How much RAM?
#680 [07:17] <g> €3000 for this thing
#681 [07:17] <g> including my screen etc
#682 [07:18] <g> 8GB ram
#683 [07:18] <User> Omfg
#684 [07:18] <User> I got 2GB
#685 [07:18] <g> :P
#686 [07:18] <NotiCon> silly
#687 [07:18] <User> But I am going to buy 8GB to have 10GB
#688 [07:18] <User> And new processor
#689 [07:18] * g pokes User with http://i.imgur.com/MccL5.png
#689 [07:18] <g> and, again, http://i.imgur.com/STW5i.png
#690 [07:18] <User> I dun't go in those sites lol.
#691 [07:18] <User> They look suspicious.
#692 [07:18] <g> they're screenshots
#693 [07:19] <User> Why not Imageshack?
#694 [07:19] <g> because hyperdesktop doesn't support imageshack
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#696 [07:19] <User> WTF is Hyperdesktop?
#697 [07:19] <g> I use it to take screenshots
#698 [07:19] <g> It uploads them for me and copies the link to my clipboard :P
#699 [07:19] <User> You already have Minecraft?
#700 [07:20] <g> Yeah
#701 [07:20] <g> !paid arbot
#702 [07:20] <User> What nickname?
#703 [07:20] <g> ^
#704 [07:20] <g> !paid gdude2002
#705 [07:20] <g> also
#706 [07:20] <User> !paid User
#707 [07:20] <g> those are both mine :P
#708 [07:20] <User> 2 Accounts?
#709 [07:21] <g> Yup
#710 [07:21] <User> I hate My country.
#711 [07:21] <g> I use one of them as a bot I'm writing
#712 [07:21] <User> It's so fukked up man.
#713 [07:21] <g> :P
#714 [07:22] <User> That's weird. Why there are so many people and no one needs help?
#715 [07:22] <User> (MY ENGLISH SUCKS!!! FUCK YEAH!)
#716 [07:22] <g> They're idling
#717 [07:22] <User> Why?
#718 [07:22] <Morrolan> User: That's normal for irc.
#719 [07:22] <Morrolan> It's all about lurking.
#720 [07:22] <User> What IRC client do You use people?
#721 [07:22] <g> mIRC
#722 [07:22] <User> I use Chatzilla.
#723 [07:23] <Morrolan> HydraIRC
#724 [07:23] <g> Yes, you do, 0.9.86.1 in fact
#725 [07:23] <g> of chatzilla
#726 [07:23] <User> I don't know if mIRC is the most popular or the best IRC client of all.
#727 [07:23] <DreadLindwyrm> Whatever is convenient, but usually Chatzilla.
#728 [07:23] <Morrolan> The most popular and a good one I'd say.
#729 [07:23] <User> At least Chatzilla doesn't have the annoying bar that tells "Buy it naow!"
#730 [07:24] <User> I know You just need to wait to use mIRC.
#731 [07:24] <User> But this is annoying when You must enter a chat fast.
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#733 [07:26] <User> It's quiet.
#734 [07:27] <User> For how much You played Minecraft?
#735 [07:27] <Jingle> I am not able to join any server. All I get is: "Connecting to the server.." and "Failed to connect to the server; connection timed out: connect" afterwards
#736 [07:27] <LordEddi> Why would you ever have to join a chatchannel fast?
#737 [07:27] <Jingle> Anyone able to help me out?
#738 [07:27] <User> IDK My imagination is fukked up man.
#739 [07:27] <User> Imagine a police IRC channel.
#740 [07:27] <Jingle> This is happening in every server
#741 [07:27] <User> And some robber is trying to enter.
#742 [07:27] <LordEddi> ....
#743 [07:27] <LordEddi> Are you stoned?
#744 [07:28] <User> Nah I am high.
#745 [07:28] <User> Without using drugs
#746 [07:28] <Jingle> This is really helpful.
#747 [07:28] <User> Alright Jingle
#748 [07:28] <User> What's happening.
#749 [07:29] <Jingle> "I am not able to join any server. All I get is: "Connecting to the server.." and "Failed to connect to the server; connection timed out: connect" afterwards"
#750 [07:29] <User> Pirated Minecraft maybe?
#751 [07:29] <Jingle> Sometimes when I connect to a server for the first time - it works for around what? Twenty seconds.
#752 [07:29] <Jingle> It's not pirated, I bought the game yesterday.
#753 [07:29] <Morrolan> Jingle: Are you sure that the server you're trying to connect to is updated?
#754 [07:30] <User> Jingle, only one question: Do You have a server list or You need to enter the IP? :P
#755 [07:30] <Morrolan> Respectively, how many servers did you try already?
#756 [07:30] <Jingle> Yes, since my friend is currently connected to that server.
#757 [07:30] <Jingle> It works for him and doesn't for me.
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#759 [07:30] <Jingle> That's what I find rather odd.
#760 [07:30] <Morrolan> Ok. Could it be that either your firewall or security software is blocking Minecraft?
#761 [07:30] <User> Do You use client or browser?
#762 [07:30] <Jingle> I'm using a client but I tried the browser at one point, same issue.
#763 [07:31] <Jingle> I turned off my firewall in both the router and Windows.
#764 [07:31] <marco> hello
#765 [07:31] <User> What if You are banned for no reason?
#766 [07:31] <Morrolan> Jingle: And does it work with other servers?
#767 [07:31] <User> Or the server is only allowed for some people.
#768 [07:31] <Morrolan> Marco: Hey
#769 [07:31] <Jingle> Can't be banned, no other servers work either.
#770 [07:32] <Jingle> I'm on that specific server's whitelist if that helps.
#771 [07:32] <Morrolan> Bah, I hate errors like these. :/
#772 [07:32] <User> Link?
#773 [07:32] <User> I gotta look
#774 [07:32] <User> Jingle
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#776 [07:32] <User> Restart your computer.
#777 [07:32] <User> And reinstall minecraft
#778 [07:33] <Jingle> Yeah, been there done that.
#779 [07:33] <marco> can change minecraft acc name?
#780 [07:33] <User> Nah.
#781 [07:33] <Morrolan> Marco: BNope
#782 [07:33] <Morrolan> Nope*
#783 [07:33] <User> You can't hide your face, GRIFFER!
#784 [07:33] <Morrolan> User: Such comments aren't really helping. ;)
#785 [07:33] <User> Morrolan
#786 [07:34] <Jingle> Well, I tried everything you suggested here and I still get these errors.
#787 [07:34] <User> When You try to play multiplayer, You have the server list?
#788 [07:34] <Jingle> It's not even giving me a message like "Logging in..."
#789 [07:34] <User> Jingle, how about disconnecting your computer from internet
#790 [07:34] <Jingle> Only "connecting..." blah blah and then I get that annoying error message.
#791 [07:34] <User> And connecting again?
#792 [07:34] <Jingle> Connected over 50 times, I gave up.
#793 [07:35] <Morrolan> Jingle: Can you try it from another PC on the same network?
#794 [07:35] <User> Jingle.
#795 [07:35] <User> Yeah I wanted to say that.
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#797 [07:35] <Jingle> I'm almost sure it has something to do with my network adapter though.
#798 [07:35] <Jingle> I got no idea how can a network adapter affect a game such as Minecraft when my internet is working just fine with it.
#799 [07:35] <Morrolan> Oh, wait.
#800 [07:35] <Morrolan> Jingle: Which brand is your network card?
#801 [07:36] <Jingle> nVidia nForce 4
#802 [07:36] <Jingle> That's the chipset
#803 [07:36] <Jingle> I'm also running on Windows 7 if that helps any bit.
#804 [07:36] <marco> why can't change my acc name?
#805 [07:37] <Morrolan> Marco: You just can't.
#806 [07:37] <Morrolan> Isn't supported by the system, sorry.
#807 [07:37] <Jingle> I also went on Device M---
#808 [07:37] <g> And with good reason
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#810 [07:37] <g> It wouldn't do if griefers could change their names, now, would it?
#811 [07:37] <Jingle> "Isn't supported by the system," was that meant to me?
#812 [07:38] <Jingle> Or
#813 [07:38] <Morrolan> The Minecraft account managment system does NOT support changing your account name.
#814 [07:38] <Morrolan> Jingle: Hmm, ok. Cause Atheros cards are making trouble with Minecraft.
#815 [07:38] <Jingle> So as I was saying, my brand is NVIDIA and it's an nForce 4.
#816 [07:39] <Jingle> When I went on device manager and clicked properties and junk, I went on "driver" tab.
#817 [07:39] * User f
#817 [07:39] <Jingle> It shows the driver was created around 2008
#818 [07:39] <marco> kann hier auch jemand deutsch?
#819 [07:39] <Jingle> Could it be outdated?
#820 [07:39] * User whispers: Why the fuk there is no multiplayer FAQ?!
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#821 [07:39] <Morrolan> User: hmm?
#822 [07:39] <Morrolan> Marco. ja
#823 [07:39] <Morrolan> Jingle: Well, updating surely can't hurt. :/
#824 [07:39] <Jingle> Because if it's outdated, I get no luck in updating it.
#825 [07:39] <Morrolan> But, well, it's worth a shot.
#826 [07:40] <User> Multiplayer FAQ could help.
#827 [07:40] <Jingle> It says the driver is updated.
#828 [07:40] <Jingle> I'm stuck here.
#829 [07:40] <Morrolan> User: People don't read FAQ's, tried it on the forum, didn't work.
#830 [07:41] <Morrolan> Oh well, marco left. Fair enough.
#831 [07:42] <User> I guess marco was like
#832 [07:42] <User> "Haha lol i troll'd and griffed so much"
#833 [07:42] <User> Then "Oh shit I can't change My nickname!!1"
#834 [07:43] <Jingle> When I bought the game, it was working fine and dandy but, after I wanted to change my skin with that "Upload" system, it started to act up.
#835 [07:43] <Jingle> Could the skin edition be the issue?
#836 [07:43] <Morrolan> I doubt it.
#837 [07:43] <User> Jingle
#838 [07:43] <Morrolan> Cause now it isn't even able to connect to any server. :/
#839 [07:43] <Morrolan> Are you on windows?
#840 [07:43] <Jingle> Win 7
#841 [07:43] <User> Lol
#842 [07:43] <Jingle> lol
#843 [07:43] <Morrolan> ?? win/profile
#844 [07:43] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#845 [07:43] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#846 [07:44] <Morrolan> Might be worth a try.
#847 [07:44] <Jingle> Seems rather reasonable
#848 [07:44] <Jingle> I've got another PC here and I'm eager to try it there.
#849 [07:44] <Morrolan> Yep, that would certainly help.
#850 [07:44] <Jingle> It's not for my use but I want to see.
#851 [07:45] <Jingle> I'll brb and let you know soon
#852 [07:45] <Morrolan> So we know wheter it's an issue of your network or your PC.
#853 [07:45] <User> I fukking love sausages
#854 [07:46] <User> I hate stuff like that
#855 [07:46] <User> You buy a game, You want to play in multi and bitchy errors pop up
#856 [07:47] <User> Morrolan
#857 [07:47] <User> What's your Minecraft name?
#858 [07:47] <Morrolan> Morrolan. ;)
#859 [07:48] <User> When You bought the game You had problems or not?
#860 [07:48] <Morrolan> Nope, worked fine.
#861 [07:48] <User> I hope it will for Me too
#862 [07:48] <User> Also how much do You play?
#863 [07:50] <Morrolan> Depends. Sometimes I play a lot and the again I take a break for a week or so.
#864 [07:50] <Morrolan> In the beginning I played for hours and hours though.
#865 [07:50] <Morrolan> It was certainly worth the few bucks though. :)
#866 [07:51] <User> Also Notch is one lucky guy
#867 [07:51] <Jingle> Okay, I tried it and the same shit happened.
#868 [07:51] <User> He earned like 30.200.000 euro
#869 [07:51] <Morrolan> Jingle: Hmm, must be something with your network messing up. :/
#870 [07:52] <User> Jingle
#871 [07:52] <Morrolan> Wireless or cable?
#872 [07:52] <Jingle> Everything else is working fine, every game.
#873 [07:52] <Jingle> Cable.
#874 [07:52] <User> Dial-ip
#875 [07:52] <User> Dial-up
#876 [07:52] <User> ?
#877 [07:52] <Jingle> No it's a router.
#878 [07:53] <Morrolan> Jingle: Yea, the Minecraft network code is rather, euhm, not that grea atm. :/
#879 [07:53] <User> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z55BDpwF7Q
#880 [07:53] <Jingle> It's a little weird that it works for everyone but me though.
#881 [07:53] <User> JUST WAIT 200 DAYS
#882 [07:53] <Morrolan> I adivse you to come back again in some hours, there will be people here with much more networking experience then.
#883 [07:53] <Jingle> I searched my issue on Google and they all started with "So I started my own server...."
#884 [07:54] <User> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHw5T4_JmmM
#885 [07:54] <Jingle> I'm not trying to start up my own server, that's the problem here. This is happening to every server I'm trying out.
#886 [07:54] <User> Jingle
#887 [07:54] <Morrolan> Yep, most of these people gave their internal IP to other people, and wondered why it didn't work.
#888 [07:54] <User> You must use the radical way
#889 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Jingle - Try smp.shadow-craft.net
#890 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> If you can connect to that, you're fine
#891 [07:54] <Morrolan> Oh, support's here. :)
#892 [07:54] <User> Morrolan from what country You arE?
#893 [07:54] <Morrolan> Switzerland
#894 [07:55] <User> Is Switzerland good or fukked up like Poland?
#895 [07:56] <Morrolan> Oh, I think we can't complain.
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#897 [07:56] <User> I think Jingle should use radical methods
#898 [07:56] <Morrolan> It's a bit "lethargic" sometimes, but apart from that it's secure, got a good education system and all.
#899 [07:56] <User> In mine's, the politicians are dumb.
#900 [07:56] <User> Everything is "expensive"
#901 [07:57] <User> Yes I said that in quote because it's only expensive for people living in
#902 [07:57] <User> And
#903 [07:57] <User> Year ago we lost President and the most important people
#904 [07:57] <User> Every
#905 [07:58] <User> Lol
#906 [07:58] <User> Also Morrolan
#907 [07:58] <User> Have You heard of a game Ace of Spades?
#908 [07:59] <Jingle> "Jingle - Try smp.shadow-craft.net"
#909 [07:59] <Jingle> Failed to connect to the server"
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#911 [07:59] <Jingle> "Connection time out: connect"
#912 [07:59] <User> Jingle
#913 [07:59] <extracharged> hello
#914 [07:59] <User> What if something is blocking Minecraft?
#915 [08:00] <User> I know that's risky, but how about disabling your antivirus?
#916 [08:00] <User> Or just restart the computer
#917 [08:00] <Morrolan> Hey extracharged:
#918 [08:00] <User> Maybe there is some program that blocks you from connecting
#919 [08:00] <User> Hi extra
#920 [08:00] <Jingle> This is a problem from yesterday
#921 [08:00] <Morrolan> Btw GreyVulpine: Seems your server didn't work for Jingle.
#922 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I saw
#923 [08:01] <User> Because this is Internet.
#924 [08:01] <User> Where men are men, women are men and children are FBI agents.
#925 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> Jingle - Are you running any sort of security software on your computer, any firewalls?
#926 [08:01] <Jingle> I only have Microsoft Security Essentials running, that's all.
#927 [08:02] <User> Maybe this shit is the enemy.
#928 [08:02] <User> Disable it and try.
#929 [08:02] <extracharged> anyone know how to put skins on minecraft
#930 [08:02] <User> Extra
#931 [08:03] <Jingle> I don't even know how to turn the bitch off
#932 [08:03] <User> Follow these easy steps
#933 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> extracharged - Log into minecraft.net, and go to your profile page
#934 [08:03] <extracharged> k
#935 [08:03] <Morrolan> extracharged: Just upload to the to skins section in your profile on minecraf.net
#936 [08:03] <Morrolan> It will NOT show up in the preview, but it will work.
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#938 [08:03] <User> Morrolan
#939 [08:03] <Morrolan> upload it*
#940 [08:03] <extracharged> ahk
#941 [08:03] <User> I am helping him D:<
#942 [08:03] <Morrolan> :p
#943 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> Be faster :)
#944 [08:03] <User> http://www.minecraftskins.com/ Enter Skindex
#945 [08:03] <User> DL a skin You like
#946 [08:03] <User> Go to your profile
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#948 [08:04] <Morrolan> Wait, I think there's even a FAQ entry for this
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#950 [08:04] <User> And press butten "choose skin" or something like that
#951 [08:04] <Morrolan> ?? mc.net/skins
#952 [08:04] <VoxelHead> mc.net/skins: Skin uploading will appear not to do anything at minecraft.net. However, if you have uploaded a new skin file, it *will* work in-game. Give it a try! (:
#953 [08:04] <Morrolan> Ah, only that warning.
#954 [08:04] <Morrolan> ?? smp/skins
#955 [08:04] <VoxelHead> smp/skins: Not seeing your skin on the profile page is normal; uploading your site will work and your skin will show normally in-game. Check there.
#956 [08:04] <extracharged> ok sweet thanks
#957 [08:04] <User> Jingle
#958 [08:04] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Two entries for the same thing? ^^
#959 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, need some coffee..
#960 [08:05] <User> Jingle I think I know how to terminate that bitch Microsoft something.
#961 [08:05] <GreyVulpine> I don't know.. not the only person that adds faqs to vox
#962 [08:05] <Jingle> Turned Security Essentials off, not working
#963 [08:05] <User> Jingle
#964 [08:05] <User> Do You have any chat programs?
#965 [08:05] <User> Or something that uses ze internet?
#966 [08:05] <GreyVulpine> Has jingle reinstalled minecraft by deleting .minecraft?
#967 [08:05] <Morrolan> Yep
#968 [08:05] <Morrolan> I think.
#969 [08:05] <Jingle> I did that method a lot.
#970 [08:05] <Jingle> with %APPDATA%
#971 [08:06] <Morrolan> Oh, and he tried from another PC on his network, and it didn't work.
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#974 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I see..
#975 [08:06] <User> The network's shitty.
#976 [08:06] <User> Change it
#977 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> Jingle - Do you know how to ping? Could you ping smp.shadow-craft.net?
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#979 [08:07] <extracharged> ok so u upload to minecraft.net then how do u use it in game
#980 [08:07] <User> You just choose the skin
#981 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> extracharged - Go in game, you'll see your skin in-game
#982 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> Either by pressing f5 for the third person view, or by going into your inventory screen
#983 [08:09] <Jingle> Grey, are you implying I might be somehow blocked from that server?
#984 [08:09] <Morrolan> Jingle: No, but he knows that smp.shadow-craft.net is up and updated.
#985 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> I just want to know if your computer can make a connection to that server, and if so, what your latency is
#986 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Also, what Morrolan said.
#987 [08:10] <Jingle> Well, I did the deleting .minecraft. folder part again.
#988 [08:11] <Jingle> It's still not working. I used http://www.minestatus.net to try out some servers.
#989 [08:11] <GreyVulpine> Can you ping smp.shadow-craft.net?
#990 [08:12] <Jingle> It didn't allow me to ping it
#991 [08:13] <Morrolan> Huh? Did it just time out?
#992 [08:13] <Jingle> Sort of.
#993 [08:13] <Jingle> Yes.
#994 [08:13] <Morrolan> Or did it say something different?
#995 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean, sort of?
#996 [08:13] <Jingle> Is it ping -t -l smp.shadow-craft.net ?
#997 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy the results of the ping, and paste it at pastebin.com
#998 [08:13] <Jingle> or did I get that wrong?
#999 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> Just a simple "ping smp.shadow-craft.net" is fine
#1000 [08:14] <Morrolan> Just ping smp.shadow-craft.net would work as well.
#1001 [08:14] <Morrolan> -t tells it to send pings over and over again, and -l is the length I think.
#1002 [08:14] <Morrolan> length of the buffer*
#1003 [08:15] <Jingle> Okay.
#1004 [08:15] <Jingle> Sent = 4
#1005 [08:15] <Jingle> received = 3
#1006 [08:15] <Jingle> lost = 1
#1007 [08:15] <Jingle> It's in Russian so it would be rather useless to copy it.
#1008 [08:15] <GreyVulpine> We can still figure it out
#1009 [08:15] <Morrolan> How long did it take for the pings to arrive?
#1010 [08:15] <Morrolan> Or rather, for the response to arrive.*
#1011 [08:16] <Jingle> 216ms
#1012 [08:16] <Jingle> 203ms
#1013 [08:16] <Jingle> 201ms
#1014 [08:16] <Jingle> Those three tries.
#1015 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, bit high.
#1016 [08:17] <Jingle> Are you in the US?
#1017 [08:17] <User> That what sh- wait a second.
#1018 [08:17] <User> Nevermind.
#1019 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> The server's located in the US, yes.
#1020 [08:18] <Jingle> Yeah, the ping is fine then.
#1021 [08:18] <Jingle> I usually get over 200 for US servers.
#1022 [08:19] <User> Jingle
#1023 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> What kind of internet connection are you on?
#1024 [08:19] <User> You live in Russia?
#1025 [08:20] <User> In Soviet Russia, Internet Can't Connect To You.
#1026 [08:22] <User> It's again too quiet.
#1027 [08:23] <LordTrevor> @_@ I can see the future. And it is GLORIOUS.
#1028 [08:23] * Disk hobbles around zombielike
#1028 [08:23] <User> DON'T WORRY! THE INTERNET'S HERE!
#1029 [08:23] <Disk> BRAAAAAAAAAINS
#1030 [08:23] * User The Internet bans Disk
#1030 [08:24] <User> Internet won.
#1031 [08:24] <User> Banality.
#1032 [08:24] * Disk hacks around the ban via ip masking
#1032 [08:24] * User Sends a group of killa admunz at disk with banhammas
#1032 [08:24] <LordTrevor> lol's at disk and actually changes his ip
#1033 [08:25] * Disk defends himself with his own banhammer, custom made from the souls of the slain stupid
#1033 [08:25] <User> I like butter.
#1034 [08:25] <_303> ??< index
#1035 [08:25] * User tells Disk to fuck off and kills it.
#1035 [08:25] * LordTrevor pulls out the root console
#1035 [08:26] * Disk dies, and is sent to /dev/null
#1035 [08:26] * User cuts LordTrevor's head off with a fucking keyboard. HOLY SHIT!
#1035 [08:26] <Morrolan> Shush, hop over to #Mcchatter :p
#1036 [08:26] <Morrolan> You scared that poor guy off.
#1037 [08:27] <Disk> pffff, he'll be back. They always come back
#1038 [08:27] * LordTrevor LordTrevors dieing words are "#sudo ressurect LordTrevor"
#1038 [08:27] * User attempts to ban LordTrevor. Unfortunately the name "User" has been picked up by default. FUCK!
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#1039 [08:28] * User When being banned, User pulls LordTrevor in the banland with him.
#1039 [08:28] <LordTrevor> #sudo /bin/user/LordTrevor HP=&er
#1040 [08:29] <User> I don't get it.
#1041 [08:29] <LordTrevor> its java's thing for a null value
#1042 [08:29] <User> For what I would use that?
#1043 [08:30] * User puts LordTrevor in a can.
#1043 [08:30] <gPad2002> delete this;
#1044 [08:30] <gPad2002> PARADOX!
#1045 [08:31] * User Paradoxes gPad2002 by forcing him to divide by zero. Problem?
#1045 [08:31] <gPad2002> This statement is false
#1046 [08:32] <Morrolan> I'll go with yes.
#1047 [08:32] <gPad2002> :P
#1048 [08:32] <User> I won?
#1049 [08:32] * LordTrevor divides by zero with the root console
#1049 [08:33] <gPad2002> Yo dash
#1050 [08:33] <LordTrevor> were all paradoxed now
#1051 [08:33] <gPad2002> Dawg*
#1052 [08:33] <gPad2002> We heard you like math
#1053 [08:33] <gPad2002> So we put a calculator in your calculator
#1054 [08:33] <gPad2002> So you can divide by zero
#1055 [08:33] <gPad2002> While you divide by zero
#1056 [08:33] <gPad2002> While you divide by zero
#1057 [08:33] <LordTrevor> You dawg we heard you like batman
#1058 [08:33] <gPad2002> ...
#1059 [08:33] <LordTrevor> so we killed your parents
#1060 [08:33] * User wears an anti-paradox suit.
#1060 [08:33] <gPad2002> Lol
#1061 [08:33] <User> NO! I AM YOUR FATHER!
#1062 [08:34] <gPad2002> User: You are your own father.
#1063 [08:34] <gPad2002> Also, brb
#1064 [08:34] <LordTrevor> I am my own grandpa.
#1065 [08:34] <LordTrevor> Its a long story
#1066 [08:35] <gPad2002> Back
#1067 [08:35] <gPad2002> And it is possible :P
#1068 [08:35] <LordTrevor> You hear that song?
#1069 [08:35] <LordTrevor> heard*
#1070 [08:35] <gPad2002> No
#1071 [08:35] <gPad2002> But
#1072 [08:35] <gPad2002> Someone committed suicide, and on the node
#1073 [08:35] <gPad2002> He described how he was his own father
#1074 [08:35] <gPad2002> Note*
#1075 [08:36] <LordTrevor> Actually the grandpa thing is possible, its just very difficult to pull off
#1076 [08:37] <gPad2002> Yeah, it is
#1077 [08:37] <LordTrevor> And you end up being married to your grandma
#1078 [08:37] <gPad2002> Lol
#1079 [08:37] <User> Holy fuck
#1080 [08:37] <User> I am scared
#1081 [08:37] <gPad2002> I'd rather go with thirteen erotic ghosts, thanks
#1082 [08:37] <gPad2002> :P
#1083 [08:38] <LordTrevor> Well shes not your grandma until you marry her
#1084 [08:38] <LordTrevor> its very complicated business
#1085 [08:38] <gPad2002> Mm.
#1086 [08:39] <User> Shut the fuck up
#1087 [08:39] <User> Naow
#1088 [08:39] <User> It's an order
#1089 [08:39] <gPad2002> Lol.
#1090 [08:39] <LordTrevor> Yessir
#1091 [08:39] <Morrolan> And a minute ago you complained that it's too quiet in here, therefore unleashing the box of Pandora. :D
#1092 [08:40] <gPad2002> xD
#1093 [08:40] <User> I AM SIR SHITASS
#1094 [08:40] <gPad2002> Oh no
#1095 [08:40] <User> AND YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT GHOSTS AND GRANDMAS ANYMORE!
#1096 [08:40] <gPad2002> Not Sir Shitass
#1097 [08:40] <LordTrevor> I AM PRIVATE PRIVATE
#1098 [08:40] <User> ALRIGHT PRIVATE PRIVATE
#1099 [08:40] <gPad2002> User: He wants you to shave private private's privates
#1100 [08:40] <LordTrevor> ptivately
#1101 [08:41] <gPad2002> :P
#1102 [08:41] <LordTrevor> privately*
#1103 [08:41] <User> GPAD2002
#1104 [08:41] <gPad2002> I love English :P
#1105 [08:41] <User> YOU ARE NOW AN ARTILERRY BULLET!
#1106 [08:41] <User> FAGGOT
#1107 [08:41] <gPad2002> Pew!
#1108 [08:41] <User> MAGGOT*
#1109 [08:41] <LordTrevor> IS FAGGOT MAGGOT HERE?
#1110 [08:41] <gPad2002> I don't know, I'm just a bullet
#1111 [08:41] <gPad2002> WHEEEEEEEEE!
#1112 [08:42] <User> LordTrevor is Private Private.
#1113 [08:42] <User> gPad2002 is Maggot Faggot, the artilerry bullet.
#1114 [08:42] <User> And Morrolan is an...
#1115 [08:42] <gPad2002> User is using used users to use his own user.
#1116 [08:42] <User> Switzerland Rapist
#1117 [08:42] <gPad2002> Lol
#1118 [08:42] <User> gPad!
#1119 [08:42] <User> You are downgraded to rank of a cocksucker!
#1120 [08:42] <LordTrevor> ok well Im at school now
#1121 [08:43] <LordTrevor> goodbye
#1122 [08:43] <gPad2002> :P
#1123 [08:43] <User> GO TO WAR MAGGOT.
#1124 [08:43] <Morrolan> Gosh, I can't believe I opened that window cause of my name being mentioned just to see something that useless. XD
#1125 [08:43] * Whitetiger1kitkit [Whitetiger1kitkit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1126 [08:43] <gPad2002> xD
#1127 [08:43] <User> XD
#1128 [08:43] <User> []
#1129 [08:43] <User> |
#1130 [08:43] <User> No wait
#1131 [08:43] <User> []
#1132 [08:43] <User> ||
#1133 [08:43] <User> Fuck
#1134 [08:43] <gPad2002> Lol
#1135 [08:43] <User> [O]
#1136 [08:43] <User> ||
#1137 [08:43] <User> Fuck
#1138 [08:44] <User> I can't form a penis.
#1139 [08:44] <User> IT'S A SHAEM
#1140 [08:44] <gPad2002> 3===
#1141 [08:44] <User> Wrong
#1142 [08:44] <gPad2002> :P
#1143 [08:44] <User> 8===
#1144 [08:44] <gPad2002> Lol.
#1145 [08:44] <Whitetiger1kitkit> Close.
#1146 [08:44] <User> 8===:D
#1147 [08:44] <User> BONE IN A HEAD
#1148 [08:44] <User> PROBLEM PERVERTED PEOPE<L\\
#1149 [08:44] <Whitetiger1kitkit> That'd be weird to see.
#1150 [08:44] <gPad2002> ^
#1151 [08:45] <gPad2002> A real dickhead
#1152 [08:45] <gPad2002> Lol
#1153 [08:45] <User> Lololol
#1154 [08:45] <User> LETS INVENT OUR OWN EMOTICONS
#1155 [08:45] <Whitetiger1kitkit> That thing would be talking to you
#1156 [08:45] <User> ONE EMOTICON PER PERSON
#1157 [08:45] <User> 3...2...1... GO!
#1158 [08:45] <User> PAD FIRST
#1159 [08:45] <gPad2002> I'm not on My PC
#1160 [08:45] <gPad2002> S I have no underline to do mine
#1161 [08:45] <gPad2002> So*
#1162 [08:45] <User> Do it naow!
#1163 [08:45] <User> Or I will send Arnold Schwartzenigger at you
#1164 [08:46] <gPad2002> Lulz
#1165 [08:46] <gPad2002> Come at me bro
#1166 [08:46] <User> Pad
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#1168 [08:46] <User> Look closely at the surname
#1169 [08:46] <gPad2002> Lol.
#1170 [08:46] <TheNytangel> i hear siren
#1171 [08:46] <User> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2vTbwcHRXU
#1172 [08:47] <gPad2002> ~title
#1173 [08:47] <gPad2002> ...
#1174 [08:47] <gPad2002> Not again
#1175 [08:47] <gPad2002> Xales always mutes it nightly
#1176 [08:47] <User> YOU ATE THE COOKIES
#1177 [08:47] <gPad2002> Fuck it, xales :P
#1178 [08:47] <McPlusPlus> "YouTube - YOU ATE MY COOKIES! (Farnold Kruegernegger)" (http://is.gd/SoH8Bi)
#1179 [08:47] <gPad2002> Oh ok
#1180 [08:47] <gPad2002> Lol
#1181 [08:47] <gPad2002> Brb
#1182 [08:50] <User> Now.
#1183 [08:50] <gPad2002> Backish
#1184 [08:51] <User> Lets ask questions.
#1185 [08:51] <User> First Pad, You can ask every question to everyone
#1186 [08:51] <User> And the questioned must answer "Yes" or "No"
#1187 [08:51] <gPad2002> Hmm
#1188 [08:52] <gPad2002> Do you liek mudkipz?
#1189 [08:52] <User> NEIN!
#1190 [08:52] <NotiCon> i heard you liek mudkipz?
#1191 [08:52] <gPad2002> :P
#1192 [08:52] <User> Now Me.
#1193 [08:52] <User> To gPad2002: DO YOU MASTURBATE?!
#1194 [08:52] <gPad2002> Yes
#1195 [08:52] <gPad2002> Who doesn't? :P
#1196 [08:53] <Morrolan> What is masturbate? I'm twelve.
#1197 [08:53] * Morrolan is away
#1197 [08:53] <gPad2002> Lol
#1198 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> It's masticate.
#1199 [08:53] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1200 [08:53] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: Do me a favour
#1201 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> No
#1202 [08:53] <User> "If You ask the person if He masturbates, and He answers: "No", He must be lying or He is horribly sick"
#1203 [08:54] <gPad2002> ./mode #minecrafthelp +e *!*@irc.pearsoncoles.com
#1204 [08:54] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1205 [08:54] <gPad2002> It's an exception, bypasses +q
#1206 [08:54] <gPad2002> (and +b)
#1207 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> Rather not do that, in case your bot goes on rampage
#1208 [08:55] <gPad2002> Lol, if you say so
#1209 [08:56] <User> Herp
#1210 [08:57] <gPad2002> Nobody has made it flood out yet
#1211 [08:57] <gPad2002> I'm happy to say
#1212 [08:57] <gPad2002> Not that it's possible to do that
#1213 [08:57] * gPad2002 continues to eat chocolate
#1213 [08:58] <User> Chocolate?
#1214 [08:58] <User> CHOCOLATE?
#1215 [08:58] <User> CHOCOLATE?!
#1216 [08:58] <gPad2002> YES, SIR
#1217 [08:58] <User> CHOOOOOOCOLATE!!!
#1218 [08:58] <gPad2002> CHOCOLATE
#1219 [08:58] <gPad2002> lol
#1220 [08:58] <User> CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCOLATE!!!
#1221 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1222 [08:58] <User> SPAM.
#1223 [08:58] <gPad2002> SPAAAAAAAAAAACCEE!
#1224 [08:58] <User> Edn.
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#1226 [08:58] <NotiCon> sillylate?
#1227 [08:58] <gPad2002> :P
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#1229 [08:58] <User> I have an idea.
#1230 [08:59] <User> Lets spam.
#1231 [08:59] <User> Or not?
#1232 [08:59] <gPad2002> Orly
#1233 [08:59] <gPad2002> No
#1234 [08:59] <gPad2002> Lol
#1235 [08:59] * User cries
#1235 [08:59] <gPad2002> Oh god, that was fun
#1236 [08:59] <gPad2002> We pissed of zuriki
#1237 [08:59] <gPad2002> Had everyone in D3 flood with "Spam?"
#1238 [08:59] <gPad2002> It was hilarious
#1239 [08:59] <User> gPad2002
#1240 [09:00] <User> Your rank is now: GIANT ENEMY CRAB
#1241 [09:00] <gPad2002> :P
#1242 [09:00] <User> GREYVULPINE
#1243 [09:00] <gPad2002> User: Your name is now Headcrab.
#1244 [09:00] <User> ATTACK HIS WEAK POINT, FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE!
#1245 [09:00] <User> F
#1246 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1247 [09:00] <User> Attack His weak point, NAOW!
#1248 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> Again.. with the spam.
#1249 [09:01] <gPad2002> This is getting out of hand
#1250 [09:01] <gPad2002> Lol
#1251 [09:01] <NotiCon> kill him with fire!
#1252 [09:01] <User> What's black, and sneaks around the kitchen?
#1253 [09:01] <gPad2002> You
#1254 [09:01] <User> Racist fuk
#1255 [09:01] <gPad2002> :P
#1256 [09:01] <User> Im gonna kill You.
#1257 [09:02] <gPad2002> Who is You anyway
#1258 [09:02] <User> It's YOU!
#1259 [09:02] <gPad2002> I don't You here much
#1260 [09:02] <gPad2002> Do they come here often?
#1261 [09:02] <User> You is You, Me is You, Vulpine is You too.
#1262 [09:02] <User> And You is Me
#1263 [09:02] <NotiCon> you is you?
#1264 [09:02] <gPad2002> vox, hi
#1265 [09:02] <User> And You is Me me is You
#1266 [09:02] <User> Oh shit
#1267 [09:02] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: did you know User is it?
#1268 [09:03] <User> gPad
#1269 [09:03] <gPad2002> Afk a bit
#1270 [09:03] <User> What is the word of the Humanity?
#1271 [09:05] <User> Vulpine
#1272 [09:05] <gPad2002> Back
#1273 [09:05] <gPad2002> 42, sir.
#1274 [09:05] <User> Nein.
#1275 [09:05] <User> It's Violence.
#1276 [09:05] <gPad2002> Oh oh oh
#1277 [09:05] <User> Get out.
#1278 [09:05] <gPad2002> No
#1279 [09:05] <gPad2002> BIRD IS THE WORD
#1280 [09:06] <User> NIET!
#1281 [09:06] <User> gPad
#1282 [09:06] <User> How much time You play Minecraft?
#1283 [09:07] <gPad2002> Hm?
#1284 [09:07] <gPad2002> About a year now I guess
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#1286 [09:07] <User> Damn I lost.
#1287 [09:07] <gPad2002> :P
#1288 [09:07] <User> I played only 2 days when it came out.
#1289 [09:08] <User> Also
#1290 [09:09] <User> Do You have good reputation in MC community?
#1291 [09:09] <gPad2002> With those that know me, yes
#1292 [09:09] <gPad2002> Some people think I'm a troll, which makes me lol :P
#1293 [09:09] <User> Do You know trolls can actually be trolleD?
#1294 [09:09] <gPad2002> Derp
#1295 [09:10] <User> But trolled hard
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#1297 [09:10] <User> Like holy shit
#1298 [09:10] <User> I saw one troll getting trolled very hard
#1299 [09:10] <User> You know why?
#1300 [09:10] <gPad2002> Nope
#1301 [09:10] <User> He was trolling a guy, and the troll was obsessed with some anime chick
#1302 [09:10] <gPad2002> Lol
#1303 [09:10] <gnomeye> hello everybody... a quick question: how can I change the e-mail adress of my profile? I put my secondary at first... thx
#1304 [09:10] <User> And the guy who was trolled by him, made a hentai with her.
#1305 [09:11] <User> Then he sent it to his E-mail.
#1306 [09:11] <gPad2002> xD
#1307 [09:11] <User> Fucking batshit was right there
#1308 [09:11] <User> He kept insulting him in forum and ban.
#1309 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> gnomeye - Not possible at this time
#1310 [09:11] <User> Wait for 200 days.
#1311 [09:11] <User> :P
#1312 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. profile? For minecraft or the forums?
#1313 [09:11] <gnomeye> for minecraft
#1314 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Ah, can't change your email for your minecraft account at this time.
#1315 [09:12] <User> GreyVulpine
#1316 [09:12] <gnomeye> lol okay... whill this be possible in future?
#1317 [09:12] <User> Notch better shouldn't add the E-Mail change thing if he's going.
#1318 [09:12] <User> It will help the haxers.
#1319 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> gnomeye - I couldn't tell you
#1320 [09:13] <gnomeye> okay thank you
#1321 [09:13] <User> Notch is going to add dragons...
#1322 [09:13] <gPad2002> How do I kill dragon?
#1323 [09:13] <gPad2002> :P
#1324 [09:13] <Coll> User
#1325 [09:13] <Coll> dont we already have dungeons?
#1326 [09:14] <User> Dungeons?
#1327 [09:14] <User> Nah.
#1328 [09:14] <User> Notch is going to add adventure mode.
#1329 [09:14] <User> It will be dungeons.
#1330 [09:14] <User> With keys.
#1331 [09:14] <User> You will be equipped with some stuff and players will be split up in a maze.
#1332 [09:15] <User> That's cool.
#1333 [09:15] <User> Until some retard will make +18 minecraft stuff.
#1334 [09:15] <gPad2002> Rule34...
#1335 [09:15] <User> Wait, the rule 34 still exists.
#1336 [09:16] <User> But I am sure there is no pornography from Afraid of Monsters mod for Half Life 1
#1337 [09:17] <gPad2002> Lol
#1338 [09:17] <User> This shit is so serious it can't be parodied in any way.
#1339 [09:17] <gPad2002> The Japanese could parody it..
#1340 [09:18] <User> Motherfucking Japanese
#1341 [09:19] <gPad2002> :P
#1342 [09:19] <User> OH WHAT THE FUCK!
#1343 [09:19] <User> I WAS WRONG
#1344 [09:19] <User> I am going to murder Japanese.
#1345 [09:20] <gnomeye> Quick Question: How do you change Screen Resolution on Minecraft?
#1346 [09:21] <gnomeye> oh
#1347 [09:21] <gnomeye> okay
#1348 [09:21] <gnomeye> got it
#1349 [09:21] <gnomeye> thx
#1350 [09:21] <gnomeye> :)
#1351 [09:21] <gPad2002> User: We should stop now.
#1352 [09:21] <User> THEY...
#1353 [09:22] <User> Called David Leatherhoff, the hero of the mod, a BOOGIE MAN?!
#1354 [09:22] <User> Kill.
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#1356 [09:24] <User> gPad
#1357 [09:24] <gPad2002> ..?
#1358 [09:24] <User> Have You played HL1?
#1359 [09:27] <User> Answer.
#1360 [09:27] <gPad2002> Hm, no
#1361 [09:27] <User> Why?
#1362 [09:27] <User> I will make You talk!
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#1364 [09:28] * User hits gPad2002 in the head with a beam.
#1364 [09:28] * gPad2002 is still alive
#1364 [09:28] <User> TALK! NAOW!
#1365 [09:29] * User punches gPad2002 in face.
#1365 [09:29] * gPad2002 is invulnerable
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#1366 [09:29] <User> I CURSE YOU!
#1367 [09:29] <gPad2002> Ikr
#1368 [09:29] <gPad2002> I'm busy
#1369 [09:29] * User throws a curse of AIDS at gPad2002.
#1369 [09:29] * gPad2002 is still invulnerable
#1369 [09:30] <gPad2002> /, ,\
#1370 [09:30] * User tells God that gPad2002 has cheated the death and has been struck by thunder to death
#1370 [09:31] <gPad2002> •
#1371 [09:31] <gPad2002> • •
#1372 [09:31] * gPad2002 wins
#1372 [09:31] * User dies.
#1372 [09:31] <User> I g2g
#1373 [09:32] <gPad2002> Bai
#1374 [09:32] <Morrolan> Phew.
#1375 [09:33] <gPad2002> ^
#1376 [09:33] <gPad2002> One crazy person
#1377 [09:33] <gPad2002> Oh well
#1378 [09:33] <gPad2002> Back to the lab again
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#1382 [09:52] <Zw> Do users have lower allowed memory use?
#1383 [09:52] <Zw> When i do not run server at root , it seems my server lagg :s
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#1389 [10:22] <Rooftops> Does anyone else have the problem of speeding everywhere?
#1390 [10:22] <Rooftops> It's not hacks, and my time is synched
#1391 [10:22] <Rooftops> I just run everywhere
#1392 [10:22] <Rooftops> reaaaaaaally fast
#1393 [10:22] <Rooftops> single and multiplayer
#1394 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Rooftops - while minecraft is running, go to your task manager, and right click on the java process, then choose CPU affinity, make it use only one CPU
#1395 [10:26] <Rooftops> You are my hero :D<3
#1396 [10:26] <Rooftops> Thank you very much
#1397 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> To fix this, I assume you're on an AMD processor?
#1398 [10:26] <Rooftops> Yep
#1399 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Google something called amd optimizer
#1400 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> That'll fix it permanently
#1401 [10:26] <Rooftops> Explains why my laptop wasn't like that
#1402 [10:26] <Rooftops> I will, thank you very much!
#1403 [10:28] <Rooftops> Out of curiosity, when googled I only see dual-core, but I'm running quad. Do I need to look deeper or would it not make a difference/
#1404 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I haven't touched an AMD processor since my single core days. I don't honestly know
#1405 [10:29] <Rooftops> Haha, okay well thanks for the help anyway :D
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#1414 [10:55] <Zombhab> Hello.
#1415 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#1418 [11:02] <Zombhab> No one needs help, that's a shame.
#1419 [11:03] <Zombhab> I think they are trying to be badass like they don't need help because they can figure shit out all by themselves.
#1420 [11:03] <gPad2002> Does anyone have a classic server?
#1421 [11:03] <gPad2002> I'd like to quickly show the channel something awsome I just wrote
#1422 [11:03] <Zombhab> Classic mode servers don't exist anymore?
#1423 [11:03] <gPad2002> yes they do
#1424 [11:03] <gPad2002> but, running
#1425 [11:05] <Dark_Fox> Is there a server command to shutdown the server after X amount of time or at X time?
#1426 [11:05] <Zombhab> You want to host a server?
#1427 [11:05] <gPad2002> No, I don't
#1428 [11:05] <gPad2002> I want someone who alreay hosts one
#1429 [11:05] <gPad2002> already*
#1430 [11:05] <gPad2002> so I can show them something awsome
#1431 [11:05] <Zombhab> Yeah everyone can build a penis from rock.
#1432 [11:05] <gPad2002> No
#1433 [11:06] <gPad2002> I won't even be on there
#1434 [11:06] <gPad2002> well
#1435 [11:06] <gPad2002> not directly
#1436 [11:06] <Morrolan> But his is more awesome than others. :D
#1437 [11:06] <Dark_Fox> sounds suspicious
#1438 [11:06] <gPad2002> It's not malicious
#1439 [11:06] <gPad2002> it's useful
#1440 [11:07] <Dark_Fox> Anyways, I'm trying to do timed backups of my server; I have everything set up except the server flushing the maps and shutting down
#1441 [11:08] <Morrolan> You'll have to parse that command to the server console.
#1442 [11:08] <Dark_Fox> And how would I do that, pray tell?
#1443 [11:08] <Morrolan> Depends on the language you're writing it in, really.
#1444 [11:08] <Dark_Fox> Just shell scripting
#1445 [11:08] <Morrolan> If there's a server wrapper written in the language you're using, oh, nevermidn
#1446 [11:09] <Dark_Fox> Shell scripting and a vanilla server
#1447 [11:09] <Zw> Anything to do to check why it suddenly lagg as hell on my server?
#1448 [11:09] <Zw> have 8 gb ram dedicated
#1449 [11:09] <gPad2002> come on
#1450 [11:09] <gPad2002> I've been working on this flat out for two days
#1451 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Dark_Fox - Look at this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server_startup_script
#1452 [11:09] <gPad2002> Surely someone has a classic :P
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#1454 [11:10] <Thejubro> Hi
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#1456 [11:10] <Morrolan> gPad: Can't you just set up one really quick?
#1457 [11:10] <Morrolan> Thejubro: Hey
#1458 [11:10] <Morrolan> gPad: Or does it have to be populated?
#1459 [11:11] <Zombhab> I bet he's just too lazy.
#1460 [11:11] <Dark_Fox> Hrm.. Interesting..
#1461 [11:11] <Dark_Fox> I might be able to cannibalise this code; Thanks GreyVulpine
#1462 [11:11] <Thejubro> I have a little problem
#1463 [11:11] <Thejubro> with minecraft
#1464 [11:11] <Morrolan> Yea?
#1465 [11:11] <Thejubro> Everytime i place a block i crash :(
#1466 [11:11] <Morrolan> What is the error it gives you?
#1467 [11:12] <Thejubro> No errors
#1468 [11:12] <Thejubro> This happends in SSP And SMP
#1469 [11:12] <Dark_Fox> Oh, durrf
#1470 [11:13] <Dark_Fox> what I was needing was "screen -X"
#1471 [11:13] <Dark_Fox> Man I'm retarded
#1472 [11:13] <Thejubro> Morro i guess u dont have any idea. ?
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#1475 [11:15] <Zombhab> No jubro.
#1476 [11:16] <Zombhab> He is just thinking what could it be.
#1477 [11:16] <Thejubro> Well those so far asked
#1478 [11:16] <Thejubro> ....
#1479 [11:16] <gPad2002> mor
#1480 [11:17] <gPad2002> hm
#1481 [11:17] <gPad2002> I could set one up I guess
#1482 [11:17] <gPad2002> but I need someone on there :P
#1483 [11:17] <Zombhab> Jubro.
#1484 [11:17] <Zombhab> Is that happening on all servers?
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#1487 [11:18] <Morrolan> Internet, why u no laik me. :(
#1488 [11:18] <Thejubro> Yes
#1489 [11:18] <Thejubro> It happend's in SSP and SMP
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#1491 [11:19] <Zombhab> Reinstall minecraft.
#1492 [11:19] <Thejubro> Did that many time
#1493 [11:19] <Thejubro> time's
#1494 [11:19] <Dark_Fox> Man, this is going to kick ass
#1495 [11:19] <Morrolan> ?? win/profile
#1496 [11:19] <Zombhab> Did You delete the .minecraft folder from %appdata%?
#1497 [11:19] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1498 [11:19] <maxnoobie> hi
#1499 [11:19] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1500 [11:19] <Morrolan> Hey maxnoobie
#1501 [11:19] <Dark_Fox> If I can get this to work, once a week my minecraft server will shut down, backup its world, and upload it to an offsite server
#1502 [11:20] <Thejubro> What is appdata?
#1503 [11:20] <Morrolan> That's just the folder where Minecraft is installed.
#1504 [11:20] <Zombhab> Jubro.
#1505 [11:20] <Thejubro> Im on a mac
#1506 [11:20] <Zombhab> Oh for fuck's sake, GTFO!
#1507 [11:20] <Zombhab> We can't help You if You got a Mac!
#1508 [11:20] <maxnoobie> should i go somewhere else, i am in need for some answers about linux and MC
#1509 [11:21] <Morrolan> maxnoobie: Nope, just ask.
#1510 [11:21] <Morrolan> If there's a Linux guy around he'll help you.
#1511 [11:21] <Zombhab> But seriously, Jubro.
#1512 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> !k Zombhab
#1513 [11:21] * GreyBot kicked Zombhab from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:633>)
#1514 [11:21] <Thejubro> Woah i cant be here but he cant....
#1515 [11:21] <Thejubro> Yes?
#1516 [11:21] <Thejubro> U know what
#1517 [11:21] <Thejubro> Im no pro
#1518 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> The mac folder is on /library/application support/minecraft
#1519 [11:21] <Thejubro> Thats why i came here....
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#1521 [11:21] <maxnoobie> I would like to see if MC would work on my linuw machine, therefor not yet paid for, but i cannot login
#1522 [11:21] <fogWraith> ?? mac/profile
#1523 [11:21] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1524 [11:21] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1525 [11:21] <fogWraith> :|
#1526 [11:22] <fogWraith> Thats weak, VoxelHead
#1527 [11:22] <Thejubro> Voxel
#1528 [11:22] <Zombhab> Jubro, we can't help You much if You got a Mac.
#1529 [11:22] <fogWraith> !k Zombhab
#1530 [11:22] <Thejubro> so your saying to buy a new minecraft account?
#1531 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> !kbb Zombhab
#1532 [11:22] * GreyBot kicked Zombhab from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:634>)
#1533 [11:22] <Morrolan> maxnoobie: You can not play Minecraft without paying for it.
#1534 [11:22] <Dark_Fox> maxnoobie: Minecraft works pretty well on linux if you have the Oracle JRE. But you have to pay for minecraft to play the beta
#1535 [11:22] <maxnoobie> will pay, but should run, only have the jar nothing else
#1536 [11:23] <Thejubro> GreyVulpine what next?
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#1538 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Thejubro - Delete everything in the minecraft folder, save your "Saves"
#1539 [11:23] <maxnoobie> okay, i'll try oracle java, have openjdk now
#1540 [11:23] <User> Yo.
#1541 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Don't belittle people in here asking for help
#1542 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> This is not your personal chat channel User.
#1543 [11:24] <Thejubro> GreyVulpine u said goto your libary and then what?
#1544 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Thejubro - /library/application support/minecraft
#1545 [11:24] <Thejubro> Okay
#1546 [11:24] <maxnoobie> buy
#1547 [11:24] <Thejubro> Im there
#1548 [11:24] <Dark_Fox> maxnoobie: In the package repositories it may still be labeled as sun java
#1549 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Now uh, what was it you were going to do?
#1550 [11:24] <Thejubro> And then delete everything whats in there?
#1551 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> This is where minecraft stores its files
#1552 [11:24] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Whenever he places a block he crashes.
#1553 [11:24] <maxnoobie> sorry, meant bye
#1554 [11:24] <Morrolan> bye maxnoobie
#1555 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then delete everything in there, except your saves folder.
#1556 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Next time you launch minecraft, it'll download fresh files
#1557 [11:25] <User> Agree.
#1558 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Then see if minecraft crashes again
#1559 [11:25] <gPad2002> hm
#1560 [11:25] <gPad2002> I want to show everyone this
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#1562 [11:25] <User> Mods and texture packs can be bitches sometimes
#1563 [11:25] <gPad2002> but I don't want to spam the channel
#1564 [11:25] <Thejubro> 2 secs testing
#1565 [11:25] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Information dump again! (Anonymous) - Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:25:23 +0200
#1566 [11:26] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Information dump again! (Anonymous) - Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:25:23 +0200
#1567 [11:26] <lembas> derp.
#1568 [11:26] <User> 2 secs passed.
#1569 [11:26] <User> Problem solved.
#1570 [11:26] <Thejubro> Nope i do not crash
#1571 [11:26] <Thejubro> thanks !!!! ALOT!!
#1572 [11:26] <User> Jubro
#1573 [11:26] <User> Remember: NO FUKKEN MODS FROM UNTRUSTED WEBSITES
#1574 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Hey now
#1575 [11:26] <Morrolan> gPad: Create a new channel for it, and tell us how it's called.
#1576 [11:26] <Thejubro> Im not using mod's
#1577 [11:26] <s> ssss
#1578 [11:27] <s> mod is?
#1579 [11:27] <Morrolan> Thejubro: Didn't you say that you've already deleted the Minecraft files?
#1580 [11:27] <gPad2002> Morrolan: #hollow_testing
#1581 [11:27] <Morrolan> Or was that someone else?
#1582 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> User, it could easily be a corrupted file from minecraft
#1583 [11:27] <Thejubro> No i delete minecraft
#1584 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't necessarily mean they're using a mod
#1585 [11:27] <Morrolan> Oh, you only deleted the launcher, ok.
#1586 [11:27] <Morrolan> Missunderstood you then.
#1587 [11:27] <Thejubro> ^^
#1588 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - I got jubro to delete the .minecraft equivalent on macs
#1589 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> it's on /library/application support/minecraft
#1590 [11:28] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Yea, I thought that he already deleted it though, therefore I didn't ask him to do so.
#1591 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#1592 [11:28] <Morrolan> Anyway, problem solve.d ^^
#1593 [11:28] <Morrolan> solved.*
#1594 [11:28] <Thejubro> Grey thanks alot
#1595 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#1596 [11:28] <Thejubro> And thank's alot for u other guy's help ! :)
#1597 [11:28] <s> sss
#1598 [11:29] <User> No problem.
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#1600 [11:30] <geruetzel> http://mibpaste.com/6xa7Ux my server is getting spammed with these log entries, are those chunk faults? can i do something about it? its going on for over an hour now...
#1601 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Yup, corrupt chunks
#1602 [11:31] <Morrolan> IIRC mcedit tries to repair corrupted saves, might be worth a shot.
#1603 [11:31] <geruetzel> can i do something about it? cause its making the server lag
#1604 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Corrupt saves, from people's computers powering off while the map is loaded..
#1605 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> I don't necessarily know if it'll fix that
#1606 [11:31] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: No idea, but it can't hurt I guess. :/
#1607 [11:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#1607 [11:32] <Morrolan> Geruetzel: You could try to download MCedit, open the map in there and save it again.
#1608 [11:32] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=15522
#1609 [11:32] <User> I wonder how the final minecraft will look like.
#1610 [11:32] <Morrolan> ^Link for MCEdit
#1611 [11:32] <Morrolan> I have no idea wheter this will make it better or worse, so create a backup first.
#1612 [11:33] <geruetzel> xD
#1613 [11:33] <Thejubro> Bye bye
#1614 [11:33] <Thejubro> :)
#1615 [11:33] <Morrolan> Cya
#1616 [11:33] <Thejubro> Have a nice day
#1617 [11:33] <Thejubro> Ill mabye see u around here
#1618 [11:33] <geruetzel> normally, the spamming stops after 10 minutes but as said, now its going on for over an hour...
#1619 [11:33] <User> Fuck, I ran out of ice tea
#1620 [11:33] <Morrolan> *insert joke about iced tea java here*
#1621 [11:35] <User> BREETESH PEOPLE WEAR MONOCLES AND DRINK TEEA
#1622 [11:36] <User> Morrolan
#1623 [11:36] <User> I ran out of ice tea, gimme some.
#1624 [11:36] <lembas> hey guys stop saying Java I find it offensive
#1625 [11:36] <Morrolan> Oh, don't start with that guy again. XD
#1626 [11:37] * Morrolan gives User some Ice tea
#1626 [11:37] * GreyVulpine kicks lembas
#1626 [11:37] <lembas> Ice tea is a very offensive racial term for my people!
#1627 [11:37] <lembas> >:|
#1628 [11:37] * User drinks the whole tea and chokes
#1628 [11:37] <User> OH FU-
#1629 [11:37] <lembas> >:D
#1630 [11:38] * User hits himself in stomach, spitting the tea on lembas
#1630 [11:38] <lembas> :o
#1631 [11:38] <User> YOUR A FAGGOT
#1632 [11:38] <User> problem?
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#1634 [11:39] <User> Lembas.
#1635 [11:39] <User> LEMBAS!!1
#1636 [11:40] <Morrolan> Hey, it's not that nice to tag people all the time. ;)
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#1638 [11:40] <User> Morrolan
#1639 [11:40] <User> I am Christian Bale, LOL!
#1640 [11:40] <Morrolan> Since for most people their irc client will go all bleepy and blinky then. ;)
#1641 [11:40] <User> Give Me Your Pokemons!
#1642 [11:42] <User> Morrolan
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#1644 [11:42] <User> I will eat your soul lol
#1645 [11:43] <Keltinray> I think you will find that my soul will put up quite a fight.
#1646 [11:43] <Morrolan> What a nice first line to see when joining a channel. :D
#1647 [11:43] <Morrolan> Anyway, welcome Keltinray. ^^
#1648 [11:43] * s wraps around User and crushes them
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#1649 [11:44] * User rapes S because he has pokemons.
#1649 [11:44] <s> Why would you think a letter would have Pokémon
#1650 [11:44] <User> I am just high.
#1651 [11:45] <User> Also.
#1652 [11:45] <User> I am going to eat your soul.
#1653 [11:45] <User> Lol.
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#1657 [11:47] <Zaila> Hey, i've got a user on my Minecraft server which has problems to connect. When he connects, the map dosen't load for him, he can't see what is written in the chat but everyone else can see it, and after a minut, he simply disconnects. No one else has the problem
#1658 [11:47] <Zaila> anyone know a solution?
#1659 [11:48] <User> Zaila
#1660 [11:48] <User> Type it again
#1661 [11:48] <User> Because I think You PMed Me by an accident
#1662 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> !k user
#1663 [11:48] * GreyBot kicked User from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:635>)
#1664 [11:48] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#1664 [11:48] <Morrolan> Zaila: It would be easier if that user would come here himself. :/
#1665 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1666 [11:48] <Zaila> I can get him to do it :=
#1667 [11:48] <Zaila> :)*
#1668 [11:49] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Either that "user" guy is stoned or he's suffering from some disorder. :/
#1669 [11:49] <Zaila> lol
#1670 [11:49] <Morrolan> Zaila: That would be great. :)
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#1672 [11:49] <Zaila> There he is
#1673 [11:49] <Ritz> Hey
#1674 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> I can't tell if he's trolling us, or just suffering from a case of "I'm 9"
#1675 [11:49] * User [User@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1676 [11:49] <User> What for? D:
#1677 [11:49] <User> What for? D:
#1678 [11:50] <Morrolan> I'd go for the first, Grey
#1679 [11:50] <Morrolan> Ritz: Hey
#1680 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> User - People come here for help. Don't troll here.
#1681 [11:50] <User> How was I trolling?
#1682 [11:50] <s> stop using apostrophes
#1683 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> [11:48.09am] <User> Zaila
#1684 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> [11:48.11am] <User> Type it again
#1685 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> [11:48.20am] <User> Because I think You PMed Me by an accident
#1686 [11:50] <User> I just thought when a person with gray background near nick is PMing!
#1687 [11:51] <Morrolan> Look at it like this : You learn with every mistake you make, eh? ;)
#1688 [11:51] <Morrolan> Anyway, back to you Ritz.
#1689 [11:51] <User> Yep.
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#1691 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Ritz - When you connect to Zaila's server, does this happen all the time? Has it worked before?
#1692 [11:51] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Information dump again! (Anonymous) - Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:25:00 +0200
#1693 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried other servers?
#1694 [11:51] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Information dump again! (Anonymous) - Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:25:00 +0200
#1695 [11:52] <Ritz> It works fine on other servers
#1696 [11:52] <gPad2002> argh
#1697 [11:52] <Ritz> And, it used to work on Zaila's server, some months ago
#1698 [11:53] <gPad2002> ~quit
#1699 [11:53] <Zaila> Note, i've been checking into it and tried everything i can think off, but no luck
#1700 [11:53] <Morrolan> Ritz: Did anything with your computer change hardware-wise?
#1701 [11:54] <Zaila> been using both the vanilla server software and bukkit, still the same problem
#1702 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Have you tried reinstalling minecraft by deleting /.minecraft Ritz, made sure you're working with known good files.
#1703 [11:55] <Ritz> Well, I tried with 3 different computers, and I got the same problem on all of them
#1704 [11:55] <Ritz> And I've tried deleting everything several times
#1705 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Zaila - How many people frequent your server? Is this only an isolated incident with Ritz?
#1706 [11:56] <Ritz> Also, other people can play fine using my account
#1707 [11:56] <Morrolan> Ritz: And these three computers are at the same network?
#1708 [11:56] <Ritz> And I got the same problem using other people's account
#1709 [11:56] <Zaila> As far as i know, it's isolated to Ritz, normally there is around 7 - 10 players mostly, but sometimes up to 20
#1710 [11:56] <Ritz> Yes
#1711 [11:57] <User> Wow that just scares the shit out of Me.
#1712 [11:57] <Ritz> I've tried connecting the computer directly to the modem, without using the router and I have the same problem
#1713 [11:57] <Ritz> So, the only thing that I can think of that's causing this problem is my network connection
#1714 [11:57] <Ritz> But I can play fine in other servers...
#1715 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Zaila - How is the server hosted? Locally off your home network? Or is this located somewhere else?
#1716 [11:58] <Zaila> that's what i find strange aswell
#1717 [11:58] <Zaila> It's hosted under the ArgonathRPG Community which is hosting alot of other servers aswell
#1718 [11:58] * GreyVulpine looks that up.
#1718 [11:59] <Zaila> and as far as i know, Ritz has no problems to connect the other servers hosted by them
#1719 [11:59] * User farts.
#1719 [11:59] <User> Sorry.
#1720 [11:59] <Ritz> I can play fine in every other server
#1721 [11:59] <Ritz> They're different games tho
#1722 [11:59] <User> Ritz, then tell Me: Why do You need to play on Zaila's server?
#1723 [11:59] <Zaila> you can find the website for the community at www.argonathrpg.com
#1724 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Website's a bit slow.
#1725 [12:00] <Zaila> try .eu instead
#1726 [12:00] <Ritz> User, it's the only minecraft server where people that I know play
#1727 [12:00] <User> That's weird.
#1728 [12:01] <User> What does it say when You try to connect?
#1729 [12:02] <Ritz> I can connect
#1730 [12:02] <Ritz> The problem if when I enter
#1731 [12:02] <Ritz> Only a bit of the map loads
#1732 [12:02] <Ritz> and I have massive lag
#1733 [12:02] <Ritz> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10417678/2011-04-25_16.32.21.png
#1734 [12:03] <User> Try to change the map draw to "Far"
#1735 [12:03] <User> Then roll around
#1736 [12:03] <Ritz> it is
#1737 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Ritz - What kind of security software do you run?
#1738 [12:04] * JasonBeee [JasonBeee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1739 [12:04] <Ritz> Avast
#1740 [12:04] <Ritz> Only
#1741 [12:04] <Ritz> I've already tried disabling it and the firewall
#1742 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> The AV or the security suite?
#1743 [12:05] <Ritz> The AV itself I believe
#1744 [12:06] <Zaila> Sorry guys but i gotta go for around 15 minutes, coming back when i'm done
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#1746 [12:07] <User> Ritz
#1747 [12:07] <User> To be honest: Avast sucks balls.
#1748 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Ritz - Besides reinstalling minecraft, what else have you tried?
#1749 [12:08] <Ritz> Well
#1750 [12:09] * elliseek [elliseek@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1751 [12:09] <Ritz> Tried using different computers, different accounts, turning off firewall, AV
#1752 [12:09] <Ritz> Connecting the computer directly to the modem, instead of using the router
#1753 [12:09] <User> It's so weird.
#1754 [12:09] <User> It looks like your Minecraft account is fukked up
#1755 [12:09] <User> Or it is maybe of a custom skin?
#1756 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> but then why would it only error out on one specific server?
#1757 [12:10] <Ritz> Nop User, since a friend of mine can play with my account on that server
#1758 [12:10] <User> On your computeR?
#1759 [12:10] <Ritz> Nop
#1760 [12:11] <Ritz> That's what I'm trying to find out, GreyVulpine
#1761 [12:11] <Ritz> :S
#1762 [12:11] <User> Tried updating the graphic drivers?
#1763 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Nothing to really indicate graphics, sounds more like a network issue.
#1764 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> If it was a particular NIC, I'd say to update those NIC's drivers, but you've tried it on multiple machines.
#1765 [12:12] <Ritz> The only thing I never changed was the internet connection, and since other people can play with my account, I guess that's the problem
#1766 [12:13] <Morrolan> Yea, only with that one specific hoster though. :/
#1767 [12:13] <Morrolan> Do you know of any other Minecraft server hosted with that some hoster?
#1768 [12:13] <Morrolan> argonathrpg?
#1769 [12:13] <Ritz> It only has one minecraft server
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#1771 [12:13] <Ritz> It has other server, samp, ivmp, mtavc, and I can play fine in any of those
#1772 [12:14] <Ritz> servers*
#1773 [12:14] <User> Played on samp
#1774 [12:14] <User> What if the host of the server used a curse on You?
#1775 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1776 [12:15] <User> Something like: YOU SHALL NOT SEE THE WHOLE MAP BUT ONLY A LITTLE BIT OF IT! BITCH!
#1777 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> !k user
#1778 [12:15] * GreyBot kicked User from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:636>)
#1779 [12:15] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1779 [12:15] <Ritz> ...
#1780 [12:15] <Ritz> lol
#1781 [12:15] <Ritz> Thats how it looks like after I join the server btw
#1782 [12:15] <Ritz> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10417678/2011-04-25_16.32.21.png
#1783 [12:15] <Ritz> It just stays like that and doesnt load anything else
#1784 [12:15] <Ritz> and I end up timing out after 1-2 minutes
#1785 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> I still can't figure out if it's a problem on the server's side, or yours..
#1786 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Or perhaps the connection in between. But there's nothing we can do about that.
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#1788 [12:17] <User> OH COME ON!
#1789 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> If it was just that, I'd immediately jump to the server's firewall settings
#1790 [12:17] <User> I am just trying to make it less boring and more retarded.
#1791 [12:17] <Morrolan> User: Behave yourself and you'll be fine.
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#1793 [12:17] <Ritz> I just tried joining some random server and it works perfectly
#1794 [12:17] <User> Ritz
#1795 [12:17] <User> Ask the hoster to rehost.
#1796 [12:18] <Ritz> "rehost"?
#1797 [12:18] <SPaRT> salut
#1798 [12:18] <User> You know what I mean
#1799 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> 'lo SPaRT
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#1801 [12:18] <User> Kidnap him and tell him to take the server down
#1802 [12:18] <User> Then host it again
#1803 [12:19] <SPaRT> can somebody tell me how to load my single-player world onto my "Minecraft-Server.exe"?
#1804 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> SPaRT - When you run minecraft_server.exe, it creates a /world/ folder, correct?
#1805 [12:19] <SPaRT> yea
#1806 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> SPaRT - Do you know where your single player world is?
#1807 [12:19] <Ritz> They did it several times, User
#1808 [12:19] <SPaRT> yes
#1809 [12:19] <SPaRT> found everything
#1810 [12:19] <Ritz> Shutting down the server and reopening it
#1811 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> All you gotta do, is move the single player world over, rename the folder to /world/
#1812 [12:19] <User> Rit
#1813 [12:20] <User> Ritz
#1814 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> as you delete the old "world" from the server
#1815 [12:20] <User> You tried playing on the same server with the same account on other computer?
#1816 [12:20] <SPaRT> hmmm
#1817 [12:20] <SPaRT> and if i want my server name to be different?
#1818 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> SPaRT - What do you mean?
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#1820 [12:21] <SPaRT> i mean i changed the world name into "Alive" and copied my SP world to that location
#1821 [12:21] <User> I think I know what.
#1822 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> SPaRT- If you want to keep the single player folder name, you can go into server.properties, and rename level-name to match the folder's name
#1823 [12:21] <SPaRT> it didn't work
#1824 [12:21] <SPaRT> didn't work
#1825 [12:21] <Ritz> User
#1826 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> SPaRT - No, you gotta delete the existing world on your server before you copy over the single player world
#1827 [12:21] <User> Affirmative?
#1828 [12:21] <Ritz> If I try it using other computer on my network I cant play
#1829 [12:22] <Ritz> If someone else tries on their computer
#1830 [12:22] <Ritz> they can...
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#1832 [12:22] <User> What the hell, I don't get it.
#1833 [12:22] <User> So other people on their computers can play on the server with your account without problems.
#1834 [12:23] <User> But when you play, server gets cancer and you can't play?
#1835 [12:23] <Ritz> Exactly
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#1837 [12:23] <Zaila> back
#1838 [12:23] <Ritz> So it's probably my connection
#1839 [12:23] <Ritz> But I play well on other servers
#1840 [12:23] <Ritz> That's why im confused
#1841 [12:23] <User> No wait Ritz
#1842 [12:23] <Ritz> wb
#1843 [12:23] <User> Do You have a camera?
#1844 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> I am as well.
#1845 [12:24] <User> If yes, throw it outta the window.
#1846 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1847 [12:24] <Ritz> a camera?
#1848 [12:24] <User> You know the cameras for PC
#1849 [12:24] <Ritz> Oh
#1850 [12:24] <User> When you use chatroulette and stuff
#1851 [12:24] <Ritz> No I don't
#1852 [12:24] <User> I think the host made a face reconginize
#1853 [12:24] <User> Oh...
#1854 [12:24] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1854 [12:24] <User> Then you got a hidden camera.
#1855 [12:24] <User> No but now seriously.
#1856 [12:24] <User> You are cursed.
#1857 [12:24] <User> Likely.
#1858 [12:24] <User> You can't play but others can.
#1859 [12:25] * User whispers to Ritz: Ask the shaman...
#1859 [12:25] <Zaila> lol User
#1860 [12:26] <User> Ritz.
#1861 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Ritz - You're just using a regular ip address/hostname to connect to the server, right? There's no fancy VPN thing going on here//
#1862 [12:26] <Ritz> Nop
#1863 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Not going through a proxy, or any special medium
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#1865 [12:26] <User> Ritz, when You play on the server but with other account, it's happening too?
#1866 [12:26] <Ritz> Nope, nothing at all
#1867 [12:26] <Ritz> Yes
#1868 [12:27] <User> When your friends play on your comp on their accounts on the server, it happens too?
#1869 [12:27] <Ritz> Dunno
#1870 [12:27] <Ritz> But if I try to play in my computer with their accounts
#1871 [12:27] <Ritz> it happens
#1872 [12:27] <User> So then...
#1873 [12:27] * User trollface starts to form...
#1873 [12:27] <User> **** THE SERVER!!!
#1874 [12:28] <Ritz> No
#1875 [12:28] <Ritz> I like the server
#1876 [12:28] <User> Or just clean the whole PC.
#1877 [12:28] <Ritz> Else I wouldnt been with all this trouble
#1878 [12:28] <User> If You want to waste cash for only one server...
#1879 [12:28] <Zaila> it can't be the server either, i've tried with deleting he's user file, nothing
#1880 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Thinking it's more the connection between between the server and you..
#1881 [12:28] <Ritz> I guess
#1882 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Nothing else really jumps out at me here.
#1883 [12:29] <User> It's getting as confusing as speed of 2 heghedogs humping themselves
#1884 [12:30] <User> Problem:Evil PC.
#1885 [12:30] <nem> does lava interact/mess up redstone in any way?
#1886 [12:30] <nem> or glass?
#1887 [12:30] <aetherian> uh
#1888 [12:30] <nem> as in
#1889 [12:30] <aetherian> if lava falls on redstone
#1890 [12:30] <nem> mess up the signals
#1891 [12:31] <aetherian> the redstone dies
#1892 [12:31] <nem> thats ok
#1893 [12:31] <nem> im having major issues with a simple AND gate, and i cant figure out wtf it wont work inside my "fortress" when it works outside
#1894 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> nem - Got a server we can hop on?
#1895 [12:31] <nem> tried making a short youtube vid earlier but i failed
#1896 [12:31] <nem> its singleplayer :\
#1897 [12:32] <User> Nem.
#1898 [12:32] <Zaila> I will take it with the hoster then, thanks for your time GreyVulpine. :)
#1899 [12:32] <User> What do You mean?
#1900 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Anything else interfering with the redstone, below or above it?
#1901 [12:32] <User> The redstone dust indeed burns in magma.
#1902 [12:32] <User> But the block shouldn't
#1903 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Zaila.
#1904 [12:32] <User> and the path made of redstone too
#1905 [12:32] <nem> yeah i dont have flowing lava on it, i got some lava encased in glass 2 blocks away and im grasping at straws here :\
#1906 [12:32] <Zaila> Sorry?
#1907 [12:32] <User> Nem, just understand that this is still beta.
#1908 [12:33] <Ritz> Yeah, thanks for your time
#1909 [12:33] <User> It's buggy and mysterious as hell.
#1910 [12:33] <nem> Yeah i know. :)
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#1912 [12:33] <VoxelHead> Bye spdorsey.
#1913 [12:33] <gPad2002> Argh
#1914 [12:33] <nem> Ah well, i guess im not gonna have a secret, locked door in the end of my corridor.. :p
#1915 [12:33] <gPad2002> Why does the MC protocol have to have broken packets?
#1916 [12:33] <nem> i can make it someplace else where it will work
#1917 [12:33] <gPad2002> Every dan packet is fragmented..
#1918 [12:34] <gPad2002> damn*
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#1920 [12:34] <User> Lol
#1921 [12:34] <Three> hi
#1922 [12:34] <Three> i need heklp!
#1923 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1924 [12:35] <User> WHAT HELP?!
#1925 [12:35] <Three> anyone know a great server?
#1926 [12:35] <SPaRT> GreyVulpine: i got it
#1927 [12:35] <User> ...
#1928 [12:35] <Three> with no whitelist
#1929 [12:35] <SPaRT> but i got some more questions
#1930 [12:35] <Three> tand buiolding right
#1931 [12:35] <Three> please
#1932 [12:35] <User> Can You write like a normal person, not like a retard?
#1933 [12:35] <aetherian> what's tand buiolding?
#1934 [12:35] <User> "Tand buiolding" WTF?!
#1935 [12:35] <SPaRT> i added my name to the admin.txt but using any commands in the game won't do anything
#1936 [12:35] <Three> and building rights
#1937 [12:35] <SPaRT> how can i make myself an admin on the server?
#1938 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> SPaRT - It needs to be ops.txt, and you need to restart the server after doing so
#1939 [12:36] <Three> I really need help
#1940 [12:36] <SPaRT> is there a difference between being Op(erator) and admin?
#1941 [12:36] <Three> a good server with no whitelist and automatic build right
#1942 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> SPaRT - The file itself needs to be called "ops.txt"
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#1944 [12:37] <Three> please...........
#1945 [12:37] <Three> ill never find a good server
#1946 [12:37] <User> Three.
#1947 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1948 [12:37] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1949 [12:37] <User> Ask the Uncle google.
#1950 [12:37] <Three> yes
#1951 [12:37] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1952 [12:37] <User> Now please get out.
#1953 [12:37] <Three> nooo it takes too long
#1954 [12:37] <User> This room is for help with the MC issues
#1955 [12:37] <SPaRT> ok worked thx :)
#1956 [12:37] <aetherian> ._.
#1957 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing SPaRT.
#1958 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Now that wasn't nice at all
#1959 [12:37] <User> Not "HAI GAIZ WUT IS TEH BETTA SERVAR TU BILD PENIZUES"
#1960 [12:38] * GreyVulpine kicked User from #minecrafthelp (Reason: CAPS IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL)
#1961 [12:39] * User [User@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1962 [12:39] <User> Caps makes me louder.
#1963 [12:39] <User> Never mind.
#1964 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Also makes you annoying
#1965 [12:39] <User> Grey
#1966 [12:39] <User> I challenge You to a fight in Minecraft.
#1967 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> !k User
#1968 [12:39] * GreyBot kicked User from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:637>)
#1969 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> I win.
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#1972 [12:40] <User> This is getting awkward
#1973 [12:40] <NotiCon> GreyVulpine 1 - 0 User
#1974 [12:40] <peru> hmm he said minecraft.. not minecraft help channel
#1975 [12:40] <User> I meant in Minecraft.
#1976 [12:40] <User> Aboose.
#1977 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> I don't know how to explain it to you better User. #minecrafthelp is a channel for people to ask for help, not to get trounced on for having a crap OS in your eyes, or a place to yell at people.
#1978 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> <User> Now please get out.
#1979 [12:41] <User> OS is windows.
#1980 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> This, is wrong
#1981 [12:41] <User> I don't get it but ok.
#1982 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> <Zombhab> We can't help You if You got a Mac!
#1983 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> So is this
#1984 [12:41] <User> GOODBYE LOL I WILL EAT YOUR SOUL!
#1985 [12:41] <Dark_Fox> Can't you like, permaban him?
#1986 [12:41] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1986 [12:41] <NotiCon> oh he quit
#1987 [12:41] <NotiCon> silly guy
#1988 [12:42] * GreyVulpine blehs
#1988 [12:42] * GreyVulpine heads off to blow off some steam in an FPS.
#1988 [12:43] <NotiCon> hf
#1989 [12:51] <Sazandora> !check doesthisstillwork
#1990 [12:52] <Sazandora> I don't even know whose IP that is
#1991 [12:52] <AkiTensai> Its pingable.
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#1994 [12:55] <mouse> hi, i am having a problem with my minecraft and am looking for help.
#1995 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> What problem?
#1996 [12:56] * P3RS0N [P3RS0N@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1997 [12:57] <mouse> for some reason whenever i go into a shaded area textures start to smear together
#1998 [12:57] <mouse> like they loose detail
#1999 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Um, could you screenshot it?
#2000 [13:00] <mouse> yeah its on my other computer so it will take me a moment brb
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#2004 [13:10] <bokaholic> So, know of any good tutorials on making tracks work with levers nd shit?
#2005 [13:11] <P3RS0N> Search on Youtube or www.minecraftwiki.net
#2006 [13:11] <Kus> i have a server and when my friend tries to log on it says "timed out" what could be the problem?
#2007 [13:12] <P3RS0N> He just timed out, tell Him to try again.
#2008 [13:13] <AkiTensai> Kus: Is this on the first connection? Are they getting into the server at all?
#2009 [13:13] <Kus> they can't log it
#2010 [13:13] <Kus> in
#2011 [13:13] <AkiTensai> Kus: Are they able to ping the server?
#2012 [13:13] <Kus> noup
#2013 [13:13] <mouse> how do i show a screen shot here?
#2014 [13:14] <AkiTensai> ??> pastebin
#2015 [13:14] <AkiTensai> ??> mouse pastebin
#2016 [13:14] <VoxelHead> mouse: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#2017 [13:14] <VoxelHead> mouse: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#2018 [13:14] <AkiTensai> Wait... is pastebin only text... if so I feel stupid.
#2019 [13:14] <Kus> mouse: use imageshack
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#2021 [13:16] <Kus> is this right: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/878973/port.png?
#2022 [13:17] <AkiTensai> Looks like a step in the right direction.
#2023 [13:17] <P3RS0N> www.pastie.org*
#2024 [13:17] <Kus> i shut off all my security... just in case...
#2025 [13:18] <Kus> and can someone try the IP: 93.103.85.133
#2026 [13:19] <AkiTensai> Kus: Ping doesn't go though.
#2027 [13:21] <Kus> in server.properties the IP should be the same as I just posted or blank?
#2028 [13:22] <Kus> if it is blank i can get in... if not even i can't use it
#2029 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> It needs to be blank
#2030 [13:25] <AkiTensai> GreyVulpine: Doesn't blank mean it can only be accessed locally?
#2031 [13:25] <VoxelHead> Yes, but only at the weekend.
#2032 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> No it doesn't not
#2033 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> It means it's not bound to any ip address
#2034 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> ie, if you have multiple adapters, or multiple ip addresses, and only want connections coming into a particular ip address
#2035 [13:27] <AkiTensai> Nice.
#2036 [13:29] <P3RS0N> It looks like Minecraft Beta SMP is really... Buggy.
#2037 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> For the most part, it works.
#2038 [13:30] <AkiTensai> Expecially compared to Alpha SMP
#2039 [13:32] <Kus> can anyone try it now: 93.103.85.133
#2040 [13:32] <Kus> plz
#2041 [13:32] <P3RS0N> I think asking for help about the Minecraft SMP is just pointless.
#2042 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> !check 93.103.85.133
#2043 [13:32] <P3RS0N> Notch even warned that SMP is buggy and there are still problems.
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#2045 [13:33] <Kus> well some people know how to do it... so... i don't think it is pointless...
#2046 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Honestly, the SMP server works for the most part right now
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#2048 [13:33] <P3RS0N> Lets just wait like... 7 months? And Minecraft will be a full version and officialy released.
#2049 [13:33] <Kus> greyvulpine... does this mean it doesn't work?
#2050 [13:33] <VoxelHead> i might
#2051 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Kus - No, nobody can connect to you Kus
#2052 [13:34] <P3RS0N> He needs outside IP.
#2053 [13:35] <elliseek> kus are u running ant other servers?
#2054 [13:35] <Kus> noup
#2055 [13:35] <P3RS0N> Kus.
#2056 [13:35] <P3RS0N> Do You have the outside IP?
#2057 [13:36] <Kus> yep... 93.103.85.133
#2058 [13:36] <P3RS0N> You don't have it configured I think.
#2059 [13:36] <elliseek> kus have u ever herd of teamviewer
#2060 [13:36] <Kus> elliseek: i do have it
#2061 [13:36] <elliseek> ok get on and i might be able to help
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#2063 [13:44] * P3RS0N wind sounds like in the desert, and some leaf I don't know what is it is flying across.
#2063 [13:47] <Morrolan> Shush, hop over to #poetry :p
#2064 [13:48] <P3RS0N> Negative.
#2065 [13:50] <Kus> !check 93.103.85.133
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#2067 [13:51] <Kus> !check 93.103.85.133
#2068 [13:52] <aetherian> kus, just to let you know, it's also okay to type "!check" and it will use your IP.
#2069 [13:52] <aetherian> :)
#2070 [13:52] <Kus> :D lol thx
#2071 [13:52] <Kus> let me try it :D
#2072 [13:52] <Kus> !check
#2073 [13:52] <Kus> :D cool
#2074 [13:53] <Kus> well... not the outcome but the feature
#2075 [13:53] <aetherian> !check
#2076 [13:53] <aetherian> \o/
#2077 [13:53] <Kus> jealous
#2078 [13:53] <Kus> :D
#2079 [13:53] <elliseek> sorry cant get it to work'
#2080 [13:54] <Morrolan> Kus: You DID forward the necessary prots?
#2081 [13:54] <Morrolan> ports*
#2082 [13:54] <Kus> i think i did...
#2083 [13:54] <elliseek> ya he did
#2084 [13:54] <Kus> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/878973/port.png
#2085 [13:54] <P3RS0N> What !check does?
#2086 [13:54] <P3RS0N> !check
#2087 [13:55] <P3RS0N> Piss.
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#2089 [13:55] <aetherian> Kus: did it save?
#2090 [13:55] <Kus> yep
#2091 [13:55] <Morrolan> P3rs0n: Check checks wheter you can connect to a server running on the specified IP.
#2092 [13:56] <Kus> i can play on my own... but noone can connect...
#2093 [13:56] <Morrolan> Kus: Did you set this for incoming or outgoing traffic? (If your router distinguishes between them)
#2094 [13:57] <Newt> !check
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#2096 [13:57] <Kus> Morrolan: idk
#2097 [13:57] <Morrolan> Ah well, if you didn't had to choose then it won't matter to your router.
#2098 [13:58] <Kus> you know what means port trigger?
#2099 [13:58] <Kus> i am a programmer... i know nothing about those router stuff
#2100 [13:59] <Morrolan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_triggering
#2101 [13:59] <aetherian> port trigger, when you're by the water and kill someone with a gun
#2102 [13:59] <elliseek> never used it
#2103 [13:59] <aetherian> it's not that hard
#2104 [13:59] <Kus> :D
#2105 [13:59] <Morrolan> Basically it allows incoming traffic on a specific port when there's outgoing traffic through that port.
#2106 [13:59] <Kus> loooool
#2107 [13:59] <VoxelHead> =)
#2108 [14:00] <Kus> oh... so i don't need it
#2109 [14:00] <P3RS0N> POOTIS!
#2110 [14:00] <P3RS0N> I got a problem.
#2111 [14:00] <P3RS0N> How do I get an outside IP?
#2112 [14:00] <Morrolan> http://www.whatismyip.com/
#2113 [14:01] <Kus> http://www.whatismyip.com/
#2114 [14:01] <Kus> dang
#2115 [14:01] <VoxelHead> SNAP.
#2116 [14:01] <Morrolan> :p
#2117 [14:01] <P3RS0N> No I don't want to see My IP, I want to have an outside IP.
#2118 [14:01] <Morrolan> Yes, this IS your external ip...
#2119 [14:01] <elliseek> every one does
#2120 [14:01] <Morrolan> Alone the fact that you're here shows that you already have one. ;)
#2121 [14:01] <P3RS0N> I know everyone does but I don't have one so I want to have one to be one of everyone who do have external IP ok?>
#2122 [14:01] <Morrolan> Yes, you do have an outside/external ip.
#2123 [14:02] <elliseek> I m confuzd
#2124 [14:02] <P3RS0N> I MEAN...
#2125 [14:02] <Morrolan> And this external ip is exactly what it shows you on whatismyip.com :)
#2126 [14:02] <P3RS0N> I want the external IP to host a server.
#2127 [14:02] <Morrolan> Ah, then you need to download the server software.
#2128 [14:02] <P3RS0N> No wait Morrolan.
#2129 [14:02] <elliseek> Im out
#2130 [14:02] <P3RS0N> Imagine that I have Steam and CS:S
#2131 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Your outside ip, is your external ip, is the same ip people use to connect to you
#2132 [14:02] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE out? feel these nipples!
#2133 [14:02] <elliseek> to much idiot
#2134 [14:02] <P3RS0N> And I want to host a fukken server.
#2135 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> It's the same ip you get from whatismyip.com
#2136 [14:03] <P3RS0N> But I want people to join too.
#2137 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Then you need to port forward
#2138 [14:03] <Morrolan> Yes, you need to download the Minecraft server software, forward the ports and give people that ip.
#2139 [14:03] <P3RS0N> When I tried, no people were able to enter.
#2140 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Then you need to port forward
#2141 [14:03] <elliseek> bad forward
#2142 [14:03] <P3RS0N> Wait, so the servers must "spread" their server IP's for now? No server list?
#2143 [14:03] <elliseek> or your firewall got in the wat
#2144 [14:03] <elliseek> ya
#2145 [14:03] <elliseek> hope notch adds 1
#2146 [14:03] <Morrolan> p3rson: No, but you must tell your router/firewall to allow other people to connect to your server first.
#2147 [14:04] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, and you must give other people the ip first.
#2148 [14:04] <Morrolan> There are several fanmade serverlists though.
#2149 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Also, half life games require port 27015 to be port forwarded
#2150 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise nobody can connect to you, if you're behind a router
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#2152 [14:04] <P3RS0N> Yes Morrolan I got a router for a key with lock.
#2153 [14:04] <P3RS0N> And I got a gold key with diamonds and a pimp hand.
#2154 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> !kb P3RS0N
#2155 [14:05] * GreyBot kicked P3RS0N from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:638>)
#2156 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Only so much stupid I can take from that guy
#2157 [14:05] <Newt> Thank you.
#2158 [14:05] <Morrolan> Haha, just wanted to message you with "Halp, what to do!" XD
#2159 [14:05] <Kus> haha... glad i wasn't kicked :D
#2160 [14:05] <VoxelHead> Behold the fortress of pain.
#2161 [14:06] <elliseek> ooh thang god
#2162 [14:06] <elliseek> thank
#2163 [14:07] <dopeghoti> Morning, kids
#2164 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Crap, dope's here.
#2165 [14:07] * GreyVulpine hides
#2165 [14:07] <Morrolan> Mornin' daddy
#2166 [14:07] <dopeghoti> Has anyone else had a problem with adding a user to the Whitelist, but still having them kicked for not being on the Whitelist when logging in?
#2167 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> How are you adding them?
#2168 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> via the /whitelist add command?
#2169 [14:07] <VoxelHead> basically, only with fruit
#2170 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> I see Vox.
#2171 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> That's your problem
#2172 [14:08] <dopeghoti> I tried both /whitelist add <username> and by adding them manually to the text file
#2173 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, haven't heard of that problem in here..
#2174 [14:08] <Morrolan> Could it be that they have some sort of invalid character in their nick?
#2175 [14:09] <g> Incoming bot
#2176 [14:09] <g> Feel free to set McPlusPlus +q for a few minutes before it joins
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#2178 [14:10] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Information dump again! (Anonymous) - Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:25:00 +0200
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#2180 [14:10] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#2181 [14:10] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:44:20 -0400
#2182 [14:10] <Morrolan> Heads down.
#2183 [14:10] <Razorflame> Are boats really glitchy on SMP?
#2184 [14:10] <g> </spam>
#2185 [14:10] <Morrolan> Razorflame: Yep.
#2186 [14:10] <Morrolan> Well, it's hard to ride on.
#2187 [14:10] <Razorflame> Yeah....it doesn't seem to want to work for me XD
#2188 [14:10] <Razorflame> ty
#2189 [14:10] <Razorflame> bye
#2190 [14:10] <Morrolan> Has something to do with movement being handled by the server I think.
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#2192 [14:11] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#2193 [14:11] <VoxelHead> mmm Razorflame or "something" totally different perhaps
#2194 [14:11] <g> ~stfu
#2195 [14:13] <dopeghoti> GreyVulpine: Hm. I 'fixed' it by restarting the server; I'd like to avoid that in the future though
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#2197 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, whitelisting works for me on 1.5_02
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#2199 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> via the /whitelist add name
#2200 [14:14] <Robo-Knight> hya guys
#2201 [14:14] <Robo-Knight> is anyone familiar with MC-Edit?
#2202 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#2203 [14:15] <elliseek> ya
#2204 [14:15] <elliseek> kinda
#2205 [14:15] <Robo-Knight> well, I'm trying to download a map & it's just giving me chunks of it
#2206 [14:15] <Robo-Knight> it's the Shimizu Mega City 2 Map
#2207 [14:15] <elliseek> ???
#2208 [14:16] <elliseek> like only parts?
#2209 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Got a link?
#2210 [14:16] <Robo-Knight> it'll give me 16 chunks of it & I think that if I merged them I might get the completed version
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#2212 [14:16] <Robo-Knight> sure, give me a moment
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#2214 [14:17] <Robo-Knight> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QIM61WYG
#2215 [14:17] <Robo-Knight> that's the link
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#2219 [14:19] <Kus> !check
#2220 [14:19] <Robo-Knight> I'm gonna try to merge the different chunks & see what happens, but I really hope you guys can give me an idea as to what's wrong
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#2223 [14:20] <slimer> I downloaded minecraft and it wont let me play. I click on the icon and it does the loading circle then nothing happens. It wont work on the browser either. It is just a white box. Anyone else have this problem?
#2224 [14:20] <Kus> what do you guys think: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/878973/Darth%20Vader.png
#2225 [14:21] <Robo-Knight> anyone at all? -_-;
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#2229 [14:21] <slimer> Darth Vader thing is pretty cool
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#2231 [14:21] <slimer> does anyone have that problem though
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#2233 [14:22] <Kouken> Hello
#2234 [14:22] <nvm> question! does the usual vertical stacking minecart dispenser support mobs in carts?
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#2236 [14:22] <nvm> like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37FC9p7Tmeg
#2237 [14:23] <slimer> I tried both of the links and they didn't work :/
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#2239 [14:23] <elliseek> @kus HOLY S@*$
#2240 [14:23] <Kouken> Hello again, lol
#2241 [14:23] <nvm> it has a chicken in one of the carts, but what if i want every cart to contain a certain exploding creature?
#2242 [14:23] <Kouken> Was there a 1.5.2 update?
#2243 [14:23] <Robo-Knight> any idea Elliseek?
#2244 [14:23] <Robo-Knight> ideas*
#2245 [14:24] <Kouken> Robo Knight
#2246 [14:24] <Kus> elliseek: working on the imperial march music when you walk in :D
#2247 [14:24] <Kouken> Did you used to go by the name RoboKing?
#2248 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Wait a sec...
#2249 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> Robo-Knight - These are classic level maps
#2250 [14:24] <elliseek> "and it does the loading circle" ??????????
#2251 [14:24] <elliseek> LOOOOOOOOOL
#2252 [14:25] <slimer> idk what to call it............
#2253 [14:25] <elliseek> import into MCedit then seve as a bet world i think
#2254 [14:25] <Robo-Knight> I know, but there was a method of transfering classic maps to beta on the forums via mc edit
#2255 [14:25] <elliseek> slimer got a screen
#2256 [14:25] <elliseek> ???
#2257 [14:25] <Robo-Knight> that's what I'm trying to do, but it's loading the map into seperate chunks
#2258 [14:26] <slimer> It wont work for my PC but on my mac it works fine
#2259 [14:27] <Robo-Knight> well does anyone else know of a good beta city to download?
#2260 [14:27] <elliseek> latest java?
#2261 [14:27] <Robo-Knight> it should be up to date
#2262 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Robo-knight, you might want to try saving the part of the classic map you like, as a schematic
#2263 [14:28] <elliseek> slimer latest java?
#2264 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Then importing that particular schematic into your beta world
#2265 [14:28] <Robo-Knight> I only have until May 11th to get this done... -_-;
#2266 [14:28] <elliseek> ???
#2267 [14:28] <elliseek> brb
#2268 [14:29] <slimer> i dont think i have it installed gimme a sec......
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#2270 [14:30] <Robo-Knight> also, I can't seem to download InvEdit
#2271 [14:30] <Robo-Knight> it keeps sending me a download link for MC Edit instead
#2272 [14:32] <Robo-Knight> hello? -_-;
#2273 [14:32] <dopeghoti> g'morning.
#2274 [14:32] <NotiCon> evenings
#2275 [14:33] <Robo-Knight> hya
#2276 [14:33] <Robo-Knight> does anyone have an idea as to why InvEdit is sending me to McEdit instead?
#2277 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#2278 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> http://copy.mcft.net/mc/INVedit/INVedit.zip
#2279 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Even the zip file is invedit.
#2280 [14:34] <Robo-Knight> yup, even that link sent me to McEdit
#2281 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't see how.
#2282 [14:35] <Robo-Knight> me either >_<
#2283 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> You're not getting a download prompt for the invedit file?
#2284 [14:35] <Robo-Knight> no
#2285 [14:35] <Robo-Knight> I get the black box screen for MCEdit & then the actual screen for MCEdit
#2286 [14:35] <slimer> how do u change your username?
#2287 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> slimer - For.. minecraft?
#2288 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Make a new account
#2289 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Robo-Knight - Wait, what?
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#2291 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> When you go to http://copy.mcft.net/mc/INVedit/INVedit.zip - Does it give you a download prompt?
#2292 [14:36] <Robo-Knight> basically, it's just sending me to MCEdit, I was describing what happens
#2293 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Can you download the file?
#2294 [14:37] <Robo-Knight> yes, I'm opening hte file
#2295 [14:37] <Robo-Knight> the*
#2296 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Opening.. the invedit.zip file?
#2297 [14:37] <Robo-Knight> the window says, Opening Invedit.zip
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#2299 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Could you extract the contents of that zip into a seperate folder?
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#2301 [14:37] <DarkFantom> was Slimer
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#2303 [14:38] <Robo-Knight> trying
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#2306 [14:40] <Robo-Knight> yes, it worked!
#2307 [14:40] <Robo-Knight> okay, now to figure out how to get that map up & running
#2308 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Robo-Knight - I would consider generating a map in beta, then using mcedit's schematic feature to import the parts of the classic map in
#2309 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> You can think of the schematic feature of mcedit, as saving a particular piece of the map, so you can import it into other maps
#2310 [14:41] <Robo-Knight> I have a map in Beta, but for some reason, MC Edit crashes when it uploads into the Beta Map
#2311 [14:41] <Robo-Knight> hmmm...
#2312 [14:44] <Robo-Knight> so you're saying that it's doing this because it's a Classic Map?
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#2314 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2315 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Classic and beta maps have entirely different level formats
#2316 [14:46] <Robo-Knight> ah
#2317 [14:46] <Robo-Knight> heh, it never mentioned that on the forums... -_-;
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#2319 [14:50] <Fausterion> hey peeps
#2320 [14:50] <Fausterion> so
#2321 [14:51] <Fausterion> I loaded up an ancient map on our server
#2322 [14:51] <Fausterion> and I noticed it wasn't automagically converted to the mcr format
#2323 [14:51] <Fausterion> I loaded it into single player, and it wasn't converted either
#2324 [14:51] <Fausterion> is there a way for me to convert it manually?
#2325 [14:52] <Robo-Knight> well wish me luck, time to make sense of this mess, thanks again for the help guys, cya later
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#2327 [14:52] <VoxelHead> Luck!
#2328 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Erm.. you sure it wasn't a classic map or some nonsense?
#2329 [14:52] <Fausterion> no
#2330 [14:52] <Fausterion> the map was generated
#2331 [14:52] <Fausterion> before mobs were integrated in the game
#2332 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> It was a folder, with level.dat and chunk files?
#2333 [14:52] <Fausterion> but it was from aplha
#2334 [14:52] <Fausterion> yeah
#2335 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Those should've been converted then. um.
#2336 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Can you perhaps try to load it up in MCEdit?
#2337 [14:53] <Fausterion> yeah, strange.
#2338 [14:53] <Fausterion> hmm i'll check it out
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#2340 [14:55] <Fausterion> download mcedit now
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#2343 [15:00] <Fausterion> mcedit can open it fine
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#2345 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Make a backup before doing this, but use mcedit to resave it?
#2346 [15:04] <Fausterion> Good idea. I've never used this app before. How do I re-save it in mcedit?
#2347 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> hold down ctrl for a list of button combinations
#2348 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> ctrl-s for save
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#2351 [15:07] <Buttkrak> how do i bypass a whitlist?
#2352 [15:07] <Fausterion> lol
#2353 [15:07] <aetherian> lawl
#2354 [15:07] <Fausterion> saving in mcedit didn't convert it :(
#2355 [15:07] <Fausterion> just saves it in the format it's in
#2356 [15:08] <Fausterion> I should submit it as a bug report
#2357 [15:08] <Fausterion> on get satisfaction
#2358 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, when you first use MCedit, try creating a new world, then use the "import" option on the bottom toolbar
#2359 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> See if you can't import the old world over.
#2360 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> It used to work for old classic files, don't know if it does for old alpha maps
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#2362 [15:13] <Fausterion> nice
#2363 [15:13] <Fausterion> i'll give that a try... after lunch :)
#2364 [15:16] <g> well, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb0yX3HpCVY&feature=watch_response
#2365 [15:16] <g> ~title
#2366 [15:16] <McPlusPlus> "YouTube - Minecraft Note Blocks - Want you gone (Portal 2)" (http://is.gd/jgiVu1)
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#2369 [15:23] <Fausterion> importing now
#2370 [15:23] <Fausterion> though I have to wonder
#2371 [15:23] <Fausterion> if terrain will auto generate once one gets near the edge of the old map
#2372 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Only one way to find out
#2373 [15:24] <Buttkrak> so yah
#2374 [15:24] <Buttkrak> how do i
#2375 [15:24] <Fausterion> heh, yeah.
#2376 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> You can't bypass a whitelist. It's the point of a whitelist Buttkrak. Only people on a whitelist can join.
#2377 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> If you want to join, you'll need to ask the admin to add you
#2378 [15:25] <Buttkrak> no hack?
#2379 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#2380 [15:27] <Buttkrak> dang
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#2383 [15:35] <ellisgeek[ZZZ]> wait isint this agenst the room roolz?
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#2386 [15:38] <Buttkrak> give over
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#2388 [15:39] <VoxelHead> bye ModProp
#2389 [15:39] <ellisgeek> ???
#2390 [15:40] <g> vox, shut up
#2391 [15:40] <VoxelHead> fine
#2392 [15:40] <ellisgeek> little late there man
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#2395 [15:44] <cesar0001> Yesterday i was here and i was asking for why i minecraft was crashing not sure what really happend but they cheked java error and thats all
#2396 [15:46] <cesar0001> and my question is so there is nothing i can do?
#2397 [15:46] <ellisgeek> !weather
#2398 [15:47] <ellisgeek> not shure
#2399 [15:47] <cesar0001> ?
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#2402 [15:54] <Fausterion> spawn didn't really work to well with the import method. I loaded up the world in sp, and I started on bedrock on a massive square of it, at the bottom of my old world.
#2403 [15:55] <Fausterion> I reported the issue on get satisfaction
#2404 [15:55] <Fausterion> I'll just live with the older format for now
#2405 [15:55] <Fausterion> thanks for your help
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#2416 [16:21] <TheNytangel> meh
#2417 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Meh to you too good sir
#2418 [16:22] <cesar0001> Grey!
#2419 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2420 [16:22] <cesar0001> remmber me from yesterday?
#2421 [16:23] <aetherian> Grey :D
#2422 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Um, I'm sorry?
#2423 [16:28] <TheNytangel> Grey!
#2424 [16:28] <aetherian> Grey?!
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#2428 [16:33] <cesar0001> oh well minecraft keeps crashing and wanted to know whats wrong
#2429 [16:34] <cesar0001> http://pastebin.com/wkm7xqTr
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#2431 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> cesar0001 - How much RAM do you have?
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#2433 [16:37] <cesar0001> how do i figure that pout
#2434 [16:37] <cesar0001> out*
#2435 [16:37] <cesar0001> 'i have a window
#2436 [16:37] <TheNytangel> ctrl + alt + del
#2437 [16:37] <TheNytangel> task manager
#2438 [16:38] <TheNytangel> performance tab
#2439 [16:38] <TheNytangel> physcal memory
#2440 [16:38] <TheNytangel> i think
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#2442 [16:39] <cesar0001> it keeps changing
#2443 [16:39] <dopeghoti> Win+Pause, look for System Memory.
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#2445 [16:40] <TheNytangel> i has 6 gig of ram
#2446 [16:40] <cesar0001> physical memory is 1441260
#2447 [16:44] <cesar0001> is that the ram?
#2448 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, how about the operating system itself, what are you running?
#2449 [16:44] <cesar0001> windows xp
#2450 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Service pack...?
#2451 [16:44] <VoxelHead> lemmie go look that up
#2452 [16:44] <cesar0001> whats that
#2453 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> cesar0001 - when you pressed win+break, what's listed in the System heading?
#2454 [16:45] <cesar0001> it says service pack 2
#2455 [16:45] <cesar0001> is that what u asked?
#2456 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I believe that's the problrm
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#2458 [16:46] <cesar0001> ok so my computer is old?
#2459 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> You're running a service pack behind, which can cause problems
#2460 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Not your computer, windows in this case.
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#2462 [16:46] <cesar0001> a way to fix?
#2463 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389
#2464 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Instructions are there.
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#2466 [16:47] <cesar0001> ok thanks ill try to figure stuff out
#2467 [16:47] <cesar0001> so it should work after the update?
#2468 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Here's hoping.
#2469 [16:48] <Kn> Is anyone else having issues accessing the Minecraft forum?
#2470 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2471 [16:48] <Kn> Jk, it's working.
#2472 [16:48] <Kn> o.O
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#2474 [16:50] <Vhozard> ok, so I cant join my own hosted server, what to do ?
#2475 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Alright, you're running the latest server and client you said?
#2476 [16:50] <Vhozard> yup
#2477 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Do you only get "Took too long to log in" when you try to connect? Do you get any other messages?
#2478 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Have you been able to connect before this?
#2479 [16:51] <VoxelHead> Yes.
#2480 [16:51] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] Sage and Hiros adventures in minecraft (Anonymous) - Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:47:31 +0000
#2481 [16:52] <Vhozard> I get took too long if I specify the port (i have non-standard port)
#2482 [16:53] <Vhozard> if I dont specify the port I get an immediate "connection" refused
#2483 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Right, because the server isn't set to listen on the standard port.
#2484 [16:53] <Vhozard> except from took too long, I get no other errors when specifing the port correctly
#2485 [16:53] <Vhozard> indeed
#2486 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Then um, your computer set up to let in connections via that port?
#2487 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Any security software blocking it?
#2488 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Can anybody else connect?
#2489 [16:54] <Vhozard> someone else connected and played a little
#2490 [16:54] <Vhozard> only windows firewall
#2491 [16:54] <Vhozard> I added both .exes to allow
#2492 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> You didn't add an ip address to server-ip in server.properties, right?
#2493 [16:55] <Vhozard> nope
#2494 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Usually a "Took too long to login" means that the server timed out trying to authenticate your username to minecraft.net, when you tried to connect.
#2495 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> You can access minecraft.net, right?
#2496 [16:57] <cesar0001> Grey i am having some trouble to download the service pack, i press on "Click *here* to download the Service Pack 3 manually" and nothing happens.?
#2497 [16:57] <Vhozard> I can acces minecraft.net
#2498 [16:57] <Vhozard> I also just joined a server of a buddy, works
#2499 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> cesar0001 - There's a "Download
#2500 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Download the Windows XP Service Pack 3 package now
#2501 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> link at the bottom of the page
#2502 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Vhozard - Hmm, Did you just recently download the server file from minecraft.net?
#2503 [16:59] <cesar0001> oh thanks
#2504 [17:00] <Vhozard> yes, tried forcing update to
#2505 [17:00] <Vhozard> it updated everything
#2506 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Try deleting the entire folder the server is in, redownloading the server from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2507 [17:00] <Vhozard> I did
#2508 [17:01] <Vhozard> only thing I ever adjusted was the port
#2509 [17:01] <Vhozard> lemme try default port
#2510 [17:04] <Vhozard> exact same thing
#2511 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
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#2513 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Are you on the same computer you're trying to access the server with?
#2514 [17:05] <Vhozard> yes
#2515 [17:05] <Vhozard> and no, I dont have another pc
#2516 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> You're using, what, 127.0.0.1 to connect?
#2517 [17:05] <Vhozard> I tried 127 and localhost
#2518 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> And you're sure you're not running any other security or firewall on your computer, other than windows firewall
#2519 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> (which does nothing locally anyways)
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#2521 [17:06] <Morrolan> Euhm, so if I understand you right you can't connect to a local server?
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#2523 [17:06] <Vhozard> only windows firewall
#2524 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, gives him Took too log to log in
#2525 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Little befuzzled myself
#2526 [17:07] <Morrolan> That's rather... strange. Oo
#2527 [17:07] <Morrolan> Does it work if you use offline mode?
#2528 [17:07] <smd75jr> Hi, can anyone help me with a linux server where the minecraft_server.jar just dies a few minutes after starting?
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#2530 [17:08] <Morrolan> smd75jr: What error does it give you?
#2531 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Vhozard - Hmm, yeah, go to server.properties, and change online-mode= to false
#2532 [17:08] <smd75jr> the consol just says: [1]+ Exit 143 nohup java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2533 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the entire thing?
#2534 [17:09] <smd75jr> me?
#2535 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes smd75jr
#2536 [17:09] <smd75jr> that is the entire thing
#2537 [17:09] <smd75jr> XD
#2538 [17:09] <Morrolan> smd75jr: How much RAM does that PC have actually?
#2539 [17:10] <smd75jr> 2gb
#2540 [17:10] <smd75jr> vps
#2541 [17:10] <Vhozard> it doesnt work (onlinemode=false)
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#2543 [17:10] <Morrolan> Vhozard: Atleast it's not related to Minecraft.net then. :/
#2544 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Vhozard - Same error, even after changing online-mode to false?
#2545 [17:10] <VoxelHead> Master?
#2546 [17:10] <VoxelHead> can i ask the audience?
#2547 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
#2548 [17:10] <Vhozard> wait
#2549 [17:10] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#2549 [17:10] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#2550 [17:10] <aetherian> vox, you can talk.
#2551 [17:10] <Vhozard> how can I start the game in offline mode?
#2552 [17:10] <Vhozard> (not the server)
#2553 [17:11] <Morrolan> Well, by pluging out your network cable. :D
#2554 [17:11] <Vhozard> uhm
#2555 [17:11] <Vhozard> another way?
#2556 [17:11] <Morrolan> Or by not allowing it to access the internet. :/
#2557 [17:11] <Morrolan> You could tell your security software to block it fo example.
#2558 [17:12] <TheNytangel> who invented the potato, french people or god?
#2559 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Still there smd75jr?
#2560 [17:13] <Vhozard> well, the point is I want to test my own server when its online...
#2561 [17:13] <smd75jr> yup
#2562 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy the contents of the server console to pastebin.com and give us the output?
#2563 [17:14] <smd75jr> will the contents of the server.log do?
#2564 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Well, the terminal where you see minecraft closing out.
#2565 [17:14] <Morrolan> Vhozard: Yea, atleast we can say that it's not related to the name verification since it doesn't work with online-mode=false. :/
#2566 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> If there's anything in the server.log, pastebin that as well
#2567 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Vhozard - Can you try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net ?
#2568 [17:15] <smd75jr> ok
#2569 [17:15] <smd75jr> ill see what i can do
#2570 [17:15] <Vhozard> GreyVulpine, I can connect
#2571 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Hm, so it's not the client then.
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#2573 [17:16] <smd75jr> here ya go:
#2574 [17:16] <smd75jr> http://pastebin.com/pk4PgSCY
#2575 [17:16] <Morrolan> Vhozard: Can you connect to a server hosted on the same network as you are but NOT on your PC?
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#2577 [17:17] <Vhozard> I said I couldnt test that
#2578 [17:17] <Vhozard> only 1 laptop here
#2579 [17:17] <Morrolan> Oh sorry, didn't read that.
#2580 [17:17] <VoxelHead> well actually 94
#2581 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
#2582 [17:17] <VoxelHead> nnk
#2583 [17:17] <cesar0001> lol
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#2586 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> I don't get it, you shouldn't still get "Took too long to log in" after turning off online-mode in server.properties
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#2588 [17:20] <Morrolan> Well, it could be that the server somehow doesn't let him log in, don't ask me why though.
#2589 [17:20] * Morrolan Needs some coffee
#2589 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> I don't know Vhozard..
#2590 [17:21] <Vhozard> lemem try something
#2591 [17:22] <Vhozard> lemme*
#2592 [17:22] <aetherian> he turned it off and restarted the server, right?
#2593 [17:24] <Morrolan> Stupid question, but did you already try to ping localhost?
#2594 [17:24] <Vhozard> Reply from ::1: time<1ms
#2595 [17:24] <Vhozard> :)
#2596 [17:25] <VoxelHead> ;)
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#2598 [17:26] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Could it be that a messed up hosts file causes issues like this?
#2599 [17:26] <VoxelHead> omg yes
#2600 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> It's certainly possible, sure...
#2601 [17:30] <aetherian> vox thinks so
#2602 [17:31] <TheNytangel> hmm.. i had 944+ emails from facebook.. i now have went down from 1700 unread emails in my inbox to 700 :D
#2603 [17:32] <Vhozard> Ok
#2604 [17:33] <Morrolan> aetherian: Then it must be the truth. :)
#2605 [17:33] <Vhozard> so I blocked minecraft in my firewallz
#2606 [17:33] <Vhozard> I set online mode to false in server.prop
#2607 [17:33] <Vhozard> started the game, logged in
#2608 [17:33] <Vhozard> and when I try to do multiplayer now it directly gives me a connection refused
#2609 [17:33] <Vhozard> so its properly blocked in ma firewallz
#2610 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> What firewall are you running?
#2611 [17:33] <Vhozard> but a connect to localhost still times out
#2612 [17:33] <Vhozard> win 7 firewall
#2613 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, sorry, still don't have a clue here.
#2614 [17:35] <Vhozard> thats the downside about knowing much computer stuff
#2615 [17:35] <Vhozard> if you cant figure it out, no one else can either
#2616 [17:35] <Vhozard> :(
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#2620 [17:37] <dekema2> minecrafthelp:How do you make symbols on a sign in minecraft?
#2621 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> symbols? what symbols?
#2622 [17:38] <Vhozard> hmm
#2623 [17:38] <Vhozard> can someone quickly paste a public server in here ?
#2624 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> smp.shadow-craft.net
#2625 [17:39] <dekema2> arrows, accent symbols, etc
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#2628 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Don't think you can do non-regular ascii characters on signs
#2629 [17:41] <Vhozard> hmm
#2630 [17:41] * lemon-rev bah on notch blurb
#2630 [17:41] <Vhozard> that isnt right
#2631 [17:41] <dekema2> you should...
#2632 [17:41] <Vhozard> I can connect to smp.shadow-craft.net, even if I block it in firewall
#2633 [17:42] <dekema2> i gotta goo..
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#2635 [17:44] <TheNytangel> Everyone be excited for me, I get a new video card for easter :D
#2636 [17:45] <TheNytangel> No one is excited..
#2637 [17:45] <smd75jr> nope
#2638 [17:45] <smd75jr> XD
#2639 [17:46] <TheNytangel> -_-
#2640 [17:46] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2641 [17:46] <TheNytangel> shh, you aren't helping
#2642 [17:47] <gPad2002> vox, shut up
#2643 [17:48] <VoxelHead> Fine.
#2644 [17:48] <Vhozard> Ok, finally got something right
#2645 [17:48] <Vhozard> blocked C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe
#2646 [17:48] <Vhozard> Now the game cant display any content and a button "play offline" appears
#2647 [17:49] <Vhozard> I cant connect to smp.shadow-craft.net anymore
#2648 [17:49] <gPad2002> What are you trying to do? >.>
#2649 [17:49] <Vhozard> connecting to localhost or 127.0.0.1 still doesnt work though -_-
#2650 [17:49] * mib_htjq8e [mib_htjq8e@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2651 [17:50] <TheNytangel> vox, keep talking. dont listen to gPad2002
#2652 [17:50] <Vhozard> i just keep getting [INFO] Disconnecting /127.0.0.1:64081: Took too long to log in
#2653 [17:50] <Vhozard> So, I think its impossible to host and play on the same machine
#2654 [17:51] <gPad2002> TheNytangel: It'll be quiet for seven mins :P
#2655 [17:51] <TheNytangel> -_-
#2656 [17:51] <TheNytangel> VoxelHead, gimme a cookie
#2657 [17:52] * aetherian gives vox a cookie
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#2659 [17:56] <TheNytangel> ah ha
#2660 [17:57] <TheNytangel> VoxelHead, gimme a cookie.. NOW
#2661 [17:57] <TheNytangel> y u no gimme cookie, vox?
#2662 [17:57] <VoxelHead> Penguins.
#2663 [17:57] <TheNytangel> >.>
#2664 [17:57] <smd75jr> mmmmm
#2665 [17:57] <smd75jr> tastey
#2666 [17:58] <TheNytangel> y u no gimme baby seal, vox?
#2667 [17:58] <TheNytangel> :P
#2668 [17:58] <VoxelHead> Someone set up us the bomb.
#2669 [17:58] <TheNytangel> wut
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#2671 [17:59] <aetherian> you have no chance to survive make your time
#2672 [18:01] <TheNytangel> im gonna join the noobs server for a minute
#2673 [18:01] <TheNytangel> lol
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#2676 [18:04] <magic> hello
#2677 [18:05] <aetherian> hi
#2678 [18:05] <magic> I want to disable this whole whitelist from my server, and add plugin which will add other one, but how to disable it?
#2679 [18:05] <aetherian> I'd say by turning whitelist to false in server.properties
#2680 [18:05] <aetherian> but this sounds like bukkit
#2681 [18:05] <aetherian> and I don't know how that works
#2682 [18:06] <magic> I disabled wl in server.properties
#2683 [18:06] <magic> but it's still active
#2684 [18:06] <magic> ;/
#2685 [18:06] <magic> I also tried to disable it by /whitelist off
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#2687 [18:08] <magic> but whitelist is still active ;/
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#2689 [18:09] <cesar0001> i am having problem with minecraft it keeps crashing
#2690 [18:09] <aetherian> you and how many others
#2691 [18:09] <cesar0001> ?
#2692 [18:10] <magic> so it's not possible to disable this whole wl?
#2693 [18:11] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :<
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#2695 [18:12] <cesar0001> is it that minecraft isn't compatible with my computer?
#2696 [18:12] <CuAnnan> Has anyone found a solution to the random crashing?
#2697 [18:13] <VoxelHead> i like them =]
#2698 [18:14] <aetherian> CuAnnan: with that much info, our diagnosis can't be wrong
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#2701 [18:16] <cesar0001> so you ask for more info?
#2702 [18:16] <CuAnnan> OS X, try to open inventory or press escape; game crashes.
#2703 [18:17] <CuAnnan> Because it's os x, when it crashes it closes the diagnostic screen.
#2704 [18:17] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] MJC Theme Song (Anonymous) - Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:14:40 +0000
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#2706 [18:22] <CuAnnan> I've uninstalled and reinstalled and forced updated it.
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#2708 [18:24] <iisnipezzii> can anyon ehelp me with permissions?
#2709 [18:24] <TheNytangel> no you can not break a lamp
#2710 [18:25] <iisnipezzii> ssry
#2711 [18:25] <iisnipezzii> i was in a rush
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#2714 [18:32] <McPlusPlus> [MojangCommunity] Hello, I am Grimshaw324, and who might you be? (Anonymous) - Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:27:44 +0000
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#2722 [19:06] <Dempoj> Well, I have a problem with a minecraftserver, every time I log in it kick me and say "Bad packet ID" and some numbers, this happens to everyone thats try to log on, anyone that knows what to do?
#2723 [19:06] <VoxelHead> dempoj: say and me
#2724 [19:06] <Dempoj> w00t
#2725 [19:08] <SPaRT> hey guys i have a problem building another cobblestone into one direction of the map (spawn is in that direction compass says)
#2726 [19:08] <SPaRT> can build in another direction but that's not the plan
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#2728 [19:09] <SPaRT> any ideas?
#2729 [19:14] <splodey> can someone help me please
#2730 [19:15] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =O
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#2732 [19:15] <gPad2002> vox, be quiet
#2733 [19:15] <splodey> why wont minecraft let me go online it keeps saying bad login
#2734 [19:15] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#2734 [19:15] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#2735 [19:15] <bread> lol
#2736 [19:15] <gPad2002> Lol.
#2737 [19:15] * bread hugs vox
#2737 [19:16] <na922> u same guys on irc help?
#2738 [19:16] <splodey> anyone help please
#2739 [19:16] <gPad2002> splodey: Check that you logged in properly
#2740 [19:16] <gPad2002> What's your username?
#2741 [19:17] <splodey> i did
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#2743 [19:17] <na922> is there somewhere where I can get help for custom server mods?
#2744 [19:17] <splodey> i cant play without it
#2745 [19:18] <na922> is there somewhere where I can get help for custom server mods?
#2746 [19:18] <gPad2002> splodey: What's your username?
#2747 [19:18] <gPad2002> na922: I dunno
#2748 [19:18] <gPad2002> Check the topic you found the mod in
#2749 [19:18] <splodey> im sorry but why do you need to know it?
#2750 [19:18] <na922> kk
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#2752 [19:18] <gPad2002> splodey: So I can check if you paid or not?
#2753 [19:19] <gPad2002> !paid gdude2002
#2754 [19:19] <splodey> supersplode
#2755 [19:19] * gPad2002 pokes AuBot
#2755 [19:19] <gPad2002> ...
#2756 [19:19] <gPad2002> Failure
#2757 [19:19] <gPad2002> Kealper: Ding ding ding
#2758 [19:19] <splodey> !paid supersplode
#2759 [19:20] <gPad2002> !isitdown
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#2761 [19:20] <splodey> ???
#2762 [19:20] <Kealper> O.o
#2763 [19:20] <gPad2002> !isitdown
#2764 [19:20] <aetherian> !isdown minecraft.net
#2765 [19:20] <GreyBot> aetherian: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2766 [19:20] <gPad2002> Hm
#2767 [19:20] <Kealper> !paid Kealper
#2768 [19:21] * gPad2002 scratches his head
#2768 [19:21] <Kealper> !paid supersplode
#2769 [19:21] <splodey> ???
#2770 [19:21] <gPad2002> Maybe Notch is having database issues
#2771 [19:21] <Kealper> could be....
#2772 [19:21] <splodey> why i just bought it an houre ago does that have anything to do with it
#2773 [19:21] <gPad2002> It might
#2774 [19:21] <gPad2002> Did you use paypal?
#2775 [19:21] <splodey> no
#2776 [19:21] <gPad2002> You used the card thing?
#2777 [19:22] <Kealper> !paid asdfhaksdhfkjasdfjkad
#2778 [19:22] <Kealper> >.>
#2779 [19:22] <splodey> yah i used my card
#2780 [19:22] <gPad2002> Lol.
#2781 [19:22] <gPad2002> Hm, well
#2782 [19:22] <gPad2002> I think Notch is having trouble
#2783 [19:22] <gPad2002> Check in tomorrow
#2784 [19:22] <DreadLindwyrm> Sounds like that server is down.
#2785 [19:23] <Kealper> weird....it's working fine, but aubot isn't
#2786 [19:23] <splodey> :< thats not cool well thanks anyway ill try tomorow
#2787 [19:23] <gPad2002> Has he paid?
#2788 [19:23] <Kealper> actually....i'll bet some DNS stuff was changed around
#2789 [19:23] <gPad2002> No
#2790 [19:23] <gPad2002> It got yours
#2791 [19:23] <splodey> !paid supersplode
#2792 [19:23] <Kealper> yes, it says he paid
#2793 [19:24] <splodey> who me
#2794 [19:24] <Kealper> yeah
#2795 [19:24] * Kealper pokes at AuBot's code
#2795 [19:24] <gPad2002> Ok
#2796 [19:24] <gPad2002> So
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#2798 [19:24] <gPad2002> splodey: When does it error
#2799 [19:25] <splodey> im useing hamachi will that mess it up
#2800 [19:25] <RiskyBeaver> hey
#2801 [19:25] <splodey> right when i connect to my server it messes up
#2802 [19:25] <splodey> saying bad loggin
#2803 [19:25] <RiskyBeaver> !paid RiskyBeaver
#2804 [19:25] <RiskyBeaver> yayy
#2805 [19:25] <gPad2002> Turn off verify_names
#2806 [19:26] <aetherian> !paid asdf
#2807 [19:26] <gPad2002> For a temporary fix
#2808 [19:26] <RiskyBeaver> gPad
#2809 [19:26] <splodey> whats that?
#2810 [19:26] <CuAnnan> !paid CuAnnan
#2811 [19:26] <CuAnnan> :(
#2812 [19:26] <gPad2002> It doesn't check the login
#2813 [19:26] <RiskyBeaver> hah
#2814 [19:26] <RiskyBeaver> gPad
#2815 [19:26] <gPad2002> Hm?
#2816 [19:26] <RiskyBeaver> does it matter if its the same ip or not?
#2817 [19:26] <Kealper> !unload mod_mchelp
#2818 [19:27] <splodey> how do you turn off verrify names
#2819 [19:27] <gPad2002> Shouldn't matter, no
#2820 [19:27] <gPad2002> splodey: In server.properties
#2821 [19:27] <RiskyBeaver> Because i mean my server works
#2822 [19:27] <RiskyBeaver> but he cant get on to it
#2823 [19:27] <RiskyBeaver> saying timed out
#2824 [19:27] <gPad2002> He should kill his client and log in again
#2825 [19:27] <RiskyBeaver> or something
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#2827 [19:28] <RiskyBeaver> already did that
#2828 [19:28] <splodey> oh wait... in propertys i left server ip blank think that might be it hold on
#2829 [19:28] <RiskyBeaver> :l
#2830 [19:28] <RiskyBeaver> it actually might work
#2831 [19:29] <Kealper> hmm....
#2832 [19:29] <RiskyBeaver> his account is probably not in the system yet
#2833 [19:29] <RiskyBeaver> if that makes any sense
#2834 [19:29] <Kealper> uhh...supersplode is flagged as paid
#2835 [19:29] <RiskyBeaver> !paid supersplode
#2836 [19:29] <gPad2002> No, it isn't that
#2837 [19:29] <Kealper> aubot just appears to be having issues resolving minecraft.net right now for some reason
#2838 [19:29] <gPad2002> His login hash is possibly dead
#2839 [19:29] <RiskyBeaver> how do you know?
#2840 [19:29] <splodey> face-palm
#2841 [19:30] <splodey> it worked
#2842 [19:30] <gPad2002> Did you reboot the server?
#2843 [19:30] <gPad2002> Oh lol
#2844 [19:30] <Kealper> yeah, most likely what gPad2002 said
#2845 [19:30] <RiskyBeaver> splode splode budy
#2846 [19:30] <splodey> lol im a noob xD
#2847 [19:30] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: and i know because i'm checking the same api that aubot is
#2848 [19:30] <SPaRT> i found an area on my mp map where i can't build.... what'
#2849 [19:30] <SPaRT> s wrong there???
#2850 [19:30] <RiskyBeaver> is it in a server?
#2851 [19:30] <Kealper> SPaRT: near spawn?
#2852 [19:30] <RiskyBeaver> cuz mine does that
#2853 [19:30] <SPaRT> no
#2854 [19:30] <RiskyBeaver> at spawn
#2855 [19:30] <Kealper> any mods?
#2856 [19:31] <SPaRT> no mods
#2857 [19:31] <Kealper> that's....odd....
#2858 [19:31] <Kealper> are you positive you are not close to spawn?
#2859 [19:31] <SPaRT> yeah
#2860 [19:31] <SPaRT> compass says it's away
#2861 [19:31] <Kealper> hmm...
#2862 [19:32] <Kealper> no idea then, never heard of random spots that are unbuildable unless it's the spawn or a modded server :/
#2863 [19:32] <Kealper> !load mod_mchelp
#2864 [19:32] <Kealper> !paid supersplode
#2865 [19:32] <Kealper> weird
#2866 [19:33] <SPaRT> it's the snow!!!!!
#2867 [19:33] <SPaRT> that's weird
#2868 [19:33] <Kealper> just reloaded the module without changing it and it fixed it....that module must have been screwing up
#2869 [19:33] <RiskyBeaver> YAY
#2870 [19:33] <RiskyBeaver> RAWL
#2871 [19:35] <splodey> um i have another question :<
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#2873 [19:35] <splodey> how do i connect to my brothers server in the other room
#2874 [19:35] <RiskyBeaver> lmao
#2875 [19:35] <RiskyBeaver> epic fail
#2876 [19:35] <RiskyBeaver> :D
#2877 [19:35] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2878 [19:35] <SPaRT> Kealper: you wanna help me with another really really weird problem?= ;)
#2879 [19:36] <Kealper> uhh..i can try...lol
#2880 [19:36] <jakemb> idk i have the same type of prob, i cant get on smp
#2881 [19:36] <RiskyBeaver> !paid supersplode
#2882 [19:36] <RiskyBeaver> yayyyyyyyyy
#2883 [19:36] <Kealper> jakemb: what sort of problem?
#2884 [19:36] <splodey> >
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#2886 [19:36] <splodey> :>
#2887 [19:36] <SenorPancake> hello
#2888 [19:36] <Kealper> hi
#2889 [19:36] <splodey> brb
#2890 [19:36] <Kealper> also...brb in a few, getting my headphones
#2891 [19:37] <RiskyBeaver> someone help me out with a problem?
#2892 [19:37] <jakemb> can anyone help me, i want to get on smp but MC says cannot connect 2 server.
#2893 [19:37] <SenorPancake> I need assistance with minecraft... there is an issue with loading the textures for blocks in my inventory
#2894 [19:37] <RiskyBeaver> rofl
#2895 [19:37] <RiskyBeaver> got 3 people
#2896 [19:37] <RiskyBeaver> we need 3 more people
#2897 [19:37] <RiskyBeaver> yayyy
#2898 [19:37] <RiskyBeaver> what kind of problem loading?
#2899 [19:37] <SenorPancake> http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/A_Polish_Pancake/MinecraftIssue.jpg - that is what it looks like
#2900 [19:37] <RiskyBeaver> is it invisible?
#2901 [19:38] <RiskyBeaver> um
#2902 [19:38] <RiskyBeaver> hm
#2903 [19:38] <Kealper> ok, back
#2904 [19:38] * Kealper reads up
#2904 [19:38] <RiskyBeaver> idk but it might not be compatible with 1.5?
#2905 [19:38] <RiskyBeaver> just sayin
#2906 [19:38] <SenorPancake> well I had this issue once
#2907 [19:38] <SenorPancake> with the alpha
#2908 [19:38] <jakemb> SenorPancake: open the downloaded file, copy it, open minecraft, mods and texturepacks, open file, paste texturepack in the file.
#2909 [19:38] <SenorPancake> and last time I cleared out the bin folder and when MC redownloaded it, it was fine.
#2910 [19:39] <SenorPancake> open which downloaded file?
#2911 [19:39] <Kealper> wait, wait...before someone gets someone else's game even more broke...
#2912 [19:39] <Kealper> SenorPancake: are you using any texture packs or mods at all?
#2913 [19:39] <SenorPancake> no
#2914 [19:39] <RiskyBeaver> jake!
#2915 [19:39] <RiskyBeaver> jake jake
#2916 [19:39] <RiskyBeaver> jake
#2917 [19:39] <SenorPancake> and the same issue is present with a texture mod
#2918 [19:39] <jakemb> Can anyone help me with downloading mods (air plane mod)
#2919 [19:39] <Kealper> ??> SenorPancake win/reinst
#2920 [19:39] <VoxelHead> SenorPancake: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2921 [19:39] <VoxelHead> SenorPancake: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2922 [19:39] <RiskyBeaver> air plane mod doesnt work
#2923 [19:40] <RiskyBeaver> for 1.5
#2924 [19:40] <RiskyBeaver> i know that
#2925 [19:40] <RiskyBeaver> for a fact
#2926 [19:40] <VoxelHead> mmm fizyplankton
#2927 [19:40] <jakemb> shoot, does mo creatures
#2928 [19:40] <RiskyBeaver> not sure
#2929 [19:40] <RiskyBeaver> depends if they updated it
#2930 [19:40] <jakemb> hold on, ill look it up
#2931 [19:40] <RiskyBeaver> youd have to update as well
#2932 [19:41] <SenorPancake> did not work
#2933 [19:41] <RiskyBeaver> senor
#2934 [19:41] <RiskyBeaver> make a new texture pack
#2935 [19:41] <SenorPancake> unfortunatelyt
#2936 [19:41] <RiskyBeaver> simple
#2937 [19:41] <jakemb> so far... no
#2938 [19:41] <jakemb> are any?!?!?!
#2939 [19:41] <RiskyBeaver> no.
#2940 [19:41] <RiskyBeaver> :D
#2941 [19:41] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2942 [19:41] <jakemb> eeeeeehh ok
#2943 [19:42] <SenorPancake> well I installed GMcraft as well. The problem persists even with a texture pack.
#2944 [19:42] <RiskyBeaver> voxelhead
#2945 [19:42] <SenorPancake> GMcraft = good morning craft
#2946 [19:42] <RiskyBeaver> mind helping me out?
#2947 [19:42] <jakemb> i cant get onto an smp server
#2948 [19:42] <RiskyBeaver> ..
#2949 [19:42] <RiskyBeaver> yayy
#2950 [19:42] <Kealper> jakemb: what error does it say when you try?
#2951 [19:42] <Kealper> SenorPancake: reinstalling Minecraft's files didn't work?
#2952 [19:43] <RiskyBeaver> Error: Log out and go to bed.
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#2954 [19:43] <SenorPancake> Negative.
#2955 [19:43] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: what's the issue?
#2956 [19:43] <SenorPancake> This was actually the second time I've done that.
#2957 [19:43] <VoxelHead> I can't tell you that!
#2958 [19:43] <RiskyBeaver> alright
#2959 [19:43] <SenorPancake> Today
#2960 [19:43] * iisnipezzii [iisnipezzii@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2961 [19:43] <RiskyBeaver> well this server
#2962 [19:43] <RiskyBeaver> issue.
#2963 [19:43] <RiskyBeaver> my brother here
#2964 [19:43] <RiskyBeaver> cant get onto my sever
#2965 [19:44] <RiskyBeaver> it works for me
#2966 [19:44] <jakemb> Connection timed out: connect
#2967 [19:44] <RiskyBeaver> and he times out
#2968 [19:44] <Kealper> SenorPancake: hmm...try uninstalling Java and reinstalling it through http://java.com
#2969 [19:44] <RiskyBeaver> mm
#2970 [19:44] <Kealper> ...is jakemb your brother? lol
#2971 [19:44] <RiskyBeaver> nope
#2972 [19:44] <RiskyBeaver> supersplode.
#2973 [19:44] <RiskyBeaver> is
#2974 [19:44] <Kealper> two people with the same issue ftl ._.
#2975 [19:44] <SenorPancake> Is port 25565 forwarded?
#2976 [19:44] <Kealper> ok then....to the both of you
#2977 [19:44] <RiskyBeaver> i use himachi.
#2978 [19:45] <Kealper> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2979 [19:45] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2980 [19:45] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2981 [19:45] <RiskyBeaver> voxel
#2982 [19:45] <RiskyBeaver> i dont need your botness
#2983 [19:45] <Kealper> lol
#2984 [19:45] <jakemb> Kealper: Connection timed out: reconnect
#2985 [19:45] <RiskyBeaver> damn bot
#2986 [19:45] <Kealper> jakemb: try the server smp.shadow-craft.net
#2987 [19:46] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: also have your brother try the server smp.shadow-craft.net
#2988 [19:46] <jakemb> do i put that in the IP bar?
#2989 [19:46] <Kealper> jakemb: yes
#2990 [19:46] <RiskyBeaver> is that a literal server?
#2991 [19:46] <SenorPancake> alright - brb
#2992 [19:46] <jakemb> k
#2993 [19:46] <Kealper> yes
#2994 [19:46] <Kealper> just put it in the IP spot
#2995 [19:46] <RiskyBeaver> how is that possible?
#2996 [19:46] <Kealper> it's a domain name, it gets turned into an IP
#2997 [19:47] <RiskyBeaver> witchcraft!
#2998 [19:47] <RiskyBeaver> dlshfkasghd
#2999 [19:47] <RiskyBeaver> lol
#3000 [19:47] <Kealper> my server does that too :3
#3001 [19:47] <RiskyBeaver> it works with shadow?
#3002 [19:47] <RiskyBeaver> thing?
#3003 [19:47] <jakemb> thx it work, what mode is it on?
#3004 [19:47] <Kealper> what, your brother can get on shadow-craft?
#3005 [19:47] <RiskyBeaver> hes eating atm
#3006 [19:47] <RiskyBeaver> ..
#3007 [19:47] <Kealper> jakemb: if that worked, it means that the problem is with your server
#3008 [19:48] <Kealper> jakemb: what IP are you using when you try your server?
#3009 [19:48] <RiskyBeaver> my dogs ip
#3010 [19:48] <jakemb> other peoples
#3011 [19:48] <RiskyBeaver> :]
#3012 [19:48] <RiskyBeaver> lol
#3013 [19:48] <RiskyBeaver> other peoples?
#3014 [19:48] <RiskyBeaver> wtf?
#3015 [19:48] <RiskyBeaver> wifi?
#3016 [19:48] <Kealper> jakemb: then they are not setting up their servers right
#3017 [19:48] <jakemb> ok
#3018 [19:48] <RiskyBeaver> oh
#3019 [19:49] <Kealper> jakemb: they probably have to set up port forwarding in their router
#3020 [19:49] <jakemb> u know minecraft family adventures
#3021 [19:49] <RiskyBeaver> obviously im not too experienced with servers
#3022 [19:49] * Kealper is
#3022 [19:49] <RiskyBeaver> yet
#3023 [19:49] <RiskyBeaver> i can make a server
#3024 [19:49] <RiskyBeaver> that functions
#3025 [19:49] <RiskyBeaver> semi
#3026 [19:49] <RiskyBeaver> ly
#3027 [19:49] <jakemb> what mode is it in kealper?
#3028 [19:49] <RiskyBeaver> mode:EPIC ROBOT
#3029 [19:50] <Kealper> jakemb: you would have to ask Shadow386 that, it's his server
#3030 [19:50] <Kealper> and i don't think he's here right now
#3031 [19:50] <Shadow386> wut
#3032 [19:50] <Kealper> or....is? lol
#3033 [19:50] <RiskyBeaver> lmao
#3034 [19:50] <RiskyBeaver> convenienceee
#3035 [19:50] <Shadow386> I'll only be here for a bit longer
#3036 [19:51] <Kealper> Shadow386: just talking about you D:
#3037 [19:51] <Shadow386> okie doke
#3038 [19:51] <jakemb> thx it is so cool!
#3039 [19:51] <RiskyBeaver> saying he is an epic robot from space
#3040 [19:51] <RiskyBeaver> or she
#3041 [19:51] <RiskyBeaver> dono
#3042 [19:51] <RiskyBeaver> :d
#3043 [19:51] <VoxelHead> :-)
#3044 [19:51] <RiskyBeaver> shush voxel
#3045 [19:51] <RiskyBeaver> no one asked you
#3046 [19:51] <VoxelHead> shush voxel... shoxel
#3047 [19:52] <RiskyBeaver> exactly.
#3048 [19:52] <RiskyBeaver> Voxel is a robot chicken murderer
#3049 [19:53] <VoxelHead> yay! brains!
#3050 [19:53] <RiskyBeaver> wth?
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#3052 [19:53] <Kealper> vox, shut up
#3053 [19:53] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper
#3054 [19:53] <SlashLife^m> Does he kill robot chickens or is he a robot killing chickens?
#3055 [19:53] <RiskyBeaver> is voxel a legit person or a robot?
#3056 [19:53] <RiskyBeaver> both
#3057 [19:54] <Kealper> vox is purely a bot
#3058 [19:54] <SlashLife^m> He's a borg.
#3059 [19:54] <RiskyBeaver> a robot chicken killing chickens
#3060 [19:54] <aetherian> wrong, kealper.
#3061 [19:54] <aetherian> I asked him a while back
#3062 [19:54] <aetherian> he said he's a program
#3063 [19:55] <RiskyBeaver> does it matter
#3064 [19:55] <RiskyBeaver> ..
#3065 [19:55] <RiskyBeaver> bot-program
#3066 [19:55] <RiskyBeaver> gram cracker
#3067 [19:55] <RiskyBeaver> all the same
#3068 [19:55] <aetherian> graham.
#3069 [19:55] <aetherian> not gram.
#3070 [19:55] <RiskyBeaver> hey
#3071 [19:55] <RiskyBeaver> i tried spelling
#3072 [19:56] <RiskyBeaver> and i dont really care
#3073 [19:56] <RiskyBeaver> so its gonna be a gram cracker.
#3074 [19:56] <RiskyBeaver> for now.
#3075 [19:56] <aetherian> graham.
#3076 [19:56] <RiskyBeaver> gram
#3077 [19:56] <RiskyBeaver> ham
#3078 [19:57] <aetherian> ham cracker :D
#3079 [19:57] <RiskyBeaver> deal.
#3080 [19:57] <RiskyBeaver> its now considered a ham cracker.
#3081 [19:58] <RiskyBeaver> mmm
#3082 [19:58] <RiskyBeaver> ham..
#3083 [19:59] <RiskyBeaver> aetherian
#3084 [19:59] <aetherian> wat
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#3086 [19:59] <RiskyBeaver> your name
#3087 [19:59] <RiskyBeaver> sounds like a pokemon
#3088 [20:00] <RiskyBeaver> just sayin
#3089 [20:00] * aetherian tortures RiskyBeaver, he doesn't have time to elaborate.
#3089 [20:00] <RiskyBeaver> lies
#3090 [20:00] <RiskyBeaver> my elaboration process is unlimited
#3091 [20:00] <aetherian> mine isn't.
#3092 [20:01] <RiskyBeaver> 2+2=
#3093 [20:01] <RiskyBeaver> ....
#3094 [20:01] <RiskyBeaver> ....
#3095 [20:01] <RiskyBeaver> processing..
#3096 [20:01] <RiskyBeaver> loading...
#3097 [20:01] <aetherian> 5
#3098 [20:01] <RiskyBeaver> failing..
#3099 [20:01] * Kealper fires up Minecraft
#3099 [20:01] <RiskyBeaver> Error: Go play minecraft
#3100 [20:01] <RiskyBeaver> okay
#3101 [20:01] <RiskyBeaver> yay
#3102 [20:02] <splodey> back aqfter long absence
#3103 [20:02] <splodey> k so how to i connect to my brothers server in the other room
#3104 [20:02] <RiskyBeaver> lmao
#3105 [20:03] <Kealper> do you know the computer's internal IP or it's network name?
#3106 [20:03] <splodey> you mean the comand prompt thing where you find out
#3107 [20:04] <Kealper> uhh...
#3108 [20:04] <Kealper> not your internal IP
#3109 [20:04] <RiskyBeaver> mine?
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#3112 [20:05] <splodey> xD wops
#3113 [20:05] <Kealper> unless you were talking about running the ipconfig command prompt command on your brother's computer
#3114 [20:05] <MysteryX95> Hey there
#3115 [20:05] <splodey> will it work if i do that
#3116 [20:05] <RiskyBeaver> ...
#3117 [20:05] <Kealper> it would, but it has to be ran on your brother's computer, so you get the IP of his computer
#3118 [20:06] <Kealper> MysteryX95: ello
#3119 [20:06] <MysteryX95> having a little issue
#3120 [20:06] <MysteryX95> wondering if there was anyone that could help
#3121 [20:06] <Kealper> little issues are always better than big issues
#3122 [20:06] * Kealper raises his hand
#3122 [20:07] <MysteryX95> a friend of a friend of mine is hosting a server, my friend isn't having any problem, but I keep getting an error
#3123 [20:07] <Kealper> what error?
#3124 [20:07] <MysteryX95> that really long one
#3125 [20:07] <MysteryX95> sec
#3126 [20:07] <splodey> didnt work says i timed out
#3127 [20:07] <Kealper> does it say something about HTTP 504 or something with a huge link in it?
#3128 [20:07] <splodey> he has the server up and runing
#3129 [20:08] <Kealper> splodey: what IP were you trying to use?
#3130 [20:09] <splodey> im useing my bros ip
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#3132 [20:09] <splodey> he said its some sort of security thing
#3133 [20:10] <Kealper> does he have any firewall software running?
#3134 [20:10] <Kealper> or any antivirus software
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#3136 [20:10] <splodey> hold on
#3137 [20:10] <splodey> no
#3138 [20:11] <MysteryX95> what I can see: "ernal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write er" Anything before and after the quotations I can't see anything
#3139 [20:11] <splodey> hes on the server right now is it kus where on the same network
#3140 [20:11] <MysteryX95> because that's the edge of my window
#3141 [20:12] <Kealper> ok back
#3142 [20:12] <Kealper> splodey: either he has some antivirus or firewall software installed, or he has messed with server.properties, or you are using the wrong IP
#3143 [20:13] <Kealper> MysteryX95: when do you get that?
#3144 [20:13] <MysteryX95> well
#3145 [20:13] <MysteryX95> every time I try to connect now
#3146 [20:13] <Kealper> is it your server or someone else's?
#3147 [20:13] <MysteryX95> first night I connected, I had absolutely no problem
#3148 [20:13] <MysteryX95> server belongs to a friend of my friend
#3149 [20:13] <Kealper> try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net
#3150 [20:14] <MysteryX95> how?
#3151 [20:14] <Kealper> if you can't connect to that either, then it means something is wrong with your client, and requires further investigation
#3152 [20:14] <Kealper> just type that into the IP spot
#3153 [20:14] <MysteryX95> put that in I- ok
#3154 [20:15] <Mailman> Hey is there any way i could get help with some crashing errors?
#3155 [20:15] <MysteryX95> failed to login: Bad login
#3156 [20:15] <Kealper> O.o
#3157 [20:15] <Kealper> MysteryX95: uhh...have you restarted Minecraft at all today?
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#3159 [20:15] <Kealper> Mailman: when does it crash, and what does it crash with?
#3160 [20:15] <MysteryX95> yeah, I opened it to join you
#3161 [20:15] <RiskyBeaver> minecraft is being retarded
#3162 [20:16] <Kealper> Mailman: and has it ever worked before?
#3163 [20:16] <MysteryX95> *your suggested server
#3164 [20:16] <Kealper> MysteryX95: hmm...try once more to that server
#3165 [20:16] <Mailman> So I just bought it last night, and it crashes at login, so everything downloads and loads, then it just crashes back to desktop and leaves: #
#3166 [20:16] <Mailman> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#3167 [20:16] <Mailman> #
#3168 [20:16] <Mailman> # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x67b6963a, pid=7316, tid=3968
#3169 [20:16] <Mailman> #
#3170 [20:16] <Mailman> # JRE version: 6.0_24-b07
#3171 [20:17] <Mailman> with a very big error report
#3172 [20:17] <Kealper> Mailman: throw the whole error on http://pastebin.com and then put the url here
#3173 [20:17] <Mailman> ok
#3174 [20:17] <MysteryX95> same thing
#3175 [20:17] <Kealper> hmm....
#3176 [20:17] <Kealper> MysteryX95: what is your ingame username?
#3177 [20:18] <MysteryX95> MysteryX95
#3178 [20:18] <Kealper> !paid MysteryX95
#3179 [20:18] <Kealper> hmm...i should probably ask
#3180 [20:18] <MysteryX95> peh
#3181 [20:18] <Kealper> are you trying to play classic or beta? lol
#3182 [20:18] <MysteryX95> it's a beta thing
#3183 [20:19] <Kealper> hmm...you did buy minecraft beta, right?
#3184 [20:19] <MysteryX95> no
#3185 [20:19] <MysteryX95> no help?
#3186 [20:19] <Kealper> and you are trying to play the Beta version?
#3187 [20:19] <Aconitin> hey, is here somebody who managed to get planes working on 1.5? cause im always getting an Internal Server Error when trying to open the Plane_Workbench
#3188 [20:20] <Kealper> Aconitin: that mod is probably not updated for the latest version yet
#3189 [20:20] <Aconitin> it is
#3190 [20:20] <Kealper> for 1.5_01?
#3191 [20:20] <Aconitin> yap.
#3192 [20:20] <Aconitin> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=198188#TMT
#3193 [20:20] <Kealper> no idea then, you'll have to get in touch with the mod's creator
#3194 [20:20] <splodey> why isnt my game working i just payed for it and it wont work its pokemon black and white all over agen
#3195 [20:21] <Aconitin> as if they would write back...
#3196 [20:21] <Mailman> Ok, : http://pastebin.com/Ahzq9Tci
#3197 [20:21] <Kealper> Aconitin: they might lol, won't hurt to try
#3198 [20:21] <Aconitin> true
#3199 [20:21] <Kealper> splodey: you are not trying to connect to "127.0.0.1" are you?
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#3201 [20:22] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> i need me some help
#3202 [20:22] <Aconitin> whats splodeys problem?
#3203 [20:22] <splodey> no should i?
#3204 [20:22] <Kealper> Mailman: reinstall your graphics drivers from http://ati.com
#3205 [20:22] <Mailman> ok ill try that, thanks
#3206 [20:22] <RiskyBeaver> btw airplane mod doesnt work for 1.5
#3207 [20:22] <Kealper> splodey: no
#3208 [20:22] <Aconitin> it does.well should.
#3209 [20:22] <jwsmall89> anyone else here for mc getting to the mojang logo and then crashing??? if so, does anyone know whats up???
#3210 [20:22] <Kealper> ??> Cocopuffs1ay3r ask
#3211 [20:22] <VoxelHead> Cocopuffs1ay3r: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3212 [20:22] <VoxelHead> Cocopuffs1ay3r: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3213 [20:22] <MysteryX95> I've always been playing it single player, then the person opened up a server on a Hamachi network and the first night I was able to connect. then the server was shut down when we all went to bed. last night I tried to connect, and then Every time I connect, I stay for about a minute then DC with that error
#3214 [20:23] <splodey> im typeing in his server ip it says timed out
#3215 [20:23] <Aconitin> RiskyBeaver: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=198188#TMT
#3216 [20:23] <Kealper> jwsmall89: loads of potential things, are you playing with the browser or downloaded client?
#3217 [20:23] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> `1ok i registered my minecraft name on here and it still says im unregistered on the game
#3218 [20:23] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Download
#3219 [20:23] <Kealper> splodey: was server.properties modified at all?
#3220 [20:23] <splodey> i go onto my own server none of the monsters move and halve the map is missing
#3221 [20:23] <splodey> like gone nuthing but void
#3222 [20:23] <Aconitin> splodey: its called "lag"
#3223 [20:23] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> hey i need help wit properties on server
#3224 [20:23] <RiskyBeaver> acontin
#3225 [20:23] <RiskyBeaver> ty.
#3226 [20:23] <Aconitin> np
#3227 [20:23] <Kealper> jwsmall89: try in the browser, when (if) it fails, leave it there and tell me
#3228 [20:24] <Kealper> Cocopuffs1ay3r: ask away
#3229 [20:24] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> how do i fix me properties i messed them up
#3230 [20:24] <Kealper> Cocopuffs1ay3r: what part did you mess up?
#3231 [20:24] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> ok i was messing with properties and i tryed to open it with winrar
#3232 [20:24] <splodey> so why does it keep saying it timed out when im watching him play on his server
#3233 [20:24] <splodey> im typeing in the ip right
#3234 [20:25] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> and it messed it up so none of the monsters can me killed or anything mined
#3235 [20:25] <Kealper> MysteryX95: i can't give you any help if you are using the pirated version of minecraft beta, that just comes with the territory of stealing something
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#3237 [20:25] <MysteryX95> figures
#3238 [20:25] <Aconitin> word.
#3239 [20:25] <agu10^> hey
#3240 [20:25] <agu10^> i have a problem with the server
#3241 [20:25] <Kealper> Cocopuffs1ay3r: uhh...are you using any mods? messing up server.properties won't cause that
#3242 [20:25] <agu10^> [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#3243 [20:25] <agu10^> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#3244 [20:25] <agu10^> [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#3245 [20:25] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> no online server properties
#3246 [20:25] <bread> Mysteroh god
#3247 [20:25] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Failed
#3248 [20:25] <bread> ...
#3249 [20:25] <bread> wtf lol
#3250 [20:25] <Aconitin> agu10^ - try to forward port 25565 or run the server over port 80
#3251 [20:26] <agu10^> my computer just powered off...
#3252 [20:26] <Kealper> agu10^: restart your computer
#3253 [20:26] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> i tryed to open it and it got rid of the properties part
#3254 [20:26] <agu10^> Aconitin, it was working before
#3255 [20:26] <agu10^> Kealper, i just did
#3256 [20:26] <Kealper> oh....well then
#3257 [20:26] <agu10^> the problem persists
#3258 [20:26] <Kealper> reinstall the server files?
#3259 [20:26] <agu10^> erase the world?
#3260 [20:26] <Aconitin> Kealper, nah
#3261 [20:26] <Kealper> jwsmall89: do you see a little white coffee cup icon in the bottom right?
#3262 [20:26] <Aconitin> agu10^: first check wether another java.exe or javaw.exe is running
#3263 [20:27] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: No
#3264 [20:27] <Kealper> if he just restarted the machine, it shouldn't be running anything
#3265 [20:27] <Aconitin> like, open the task-manager and check the processes
#3266 [20:27] <agu10^> Aconitin, none
#3267 [20:27] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> ok it says the server properties have been damageed
#3268 [20:27] <Aconitin> okay
#3269 [20:27] <agu10^> i just restarted the PC
#3270 [20:27] <Aconitin> what port and ip do you use?
#3271 [20:27] <splodey> v.v oh well just another dissapointment
#3272 [20:27] <Aconitin> (server.propertiers)
#3273 [20:27] <agu10^> port, standard (idk).
#3274 [20:27] <Kealper> jwsmall89: click the little up arrow next to the computer clock to make sure it's not running hidden
#3275 [20:27] <agu10^> ip, localhost
#3276 [20:27] <agu10^> 192.168.1.6
#3277 [20:28] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> Kealper pm
#3278 [20:28] <Kealper> Cocopuffs1ay3r: just stop the server, delete server.properties and then start the server again
#3279 [20:28] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: it is not
#3280 [20:28] <Aconitin> use port 80 to try it out
#3281 [20:28] <Kealper> jwsmall89: hmm...and it did crash at the Mojang screen in the browser, right?
#3282 [20:28] <agu10^> OHHHH
#3283 [20:28] <agu10^> i have a different IP now
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#3285 [20:28] <Aconitin> xD
#3286 [20:28] <MysteryX95> there doesn't even seem to be any solution for that problem so I doubt you could have helped me whether I'd paid or not
#3287 [20:28] <Kealper> agu10^: leave server-ip blank
#3288 [20:28] <agu10^> ok thanks
#3289 [20:28] <MysteryX95> oh well.
#3290 [20:28] <Kealper> agu10^: that should only be changed from blank if you are running a huge minecraft server hosting place
#3291 [20:29] <jwsmall89> #Kealper: it paused at the logo, then flashed a text box and went black
#3292 [20:29] <agu10^> Kealper, oh, ok
#3293 [20:29] <agu10^> thanks
#3294 [20:29] <agu10^> it works
#3295 [20:29] <agu10^> thanks
#3296 [20:29] <Cocopuffs1ay3r> god can somebody pm me i need some help
#3297 [20:29] <Kealper> MysteryX95: i could have probably helped you if you had paid, but alas, i'm kinda busy right now and paying people take far more priority
#3298 [20:30] <RiskyBeaver> coco didnt kealper say you are using a pirated thing?
#3299 [20:30] <Kealper> Cocopuffs1ay3r: i just told you, stop your server, delete the file called server.properties and then start the server again
#3300 [20:30] <RiskyBeaver> meaning its stealing the game?
#3301 [20:30] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: that was MysteryX95
#3302 [20:30] <MysteryX95> I meant, I'd googled the issue, and nobody seems to have a solution
#3303 [20:30] <Kealper> jwsmall89: hmm...has it ever worked before?
#3304 [20:31] <MysteryX95> that's why I came here off my normal IRC home
#3305 [20:31] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: it worked in 1.4_01
#3306 [20:31] <Kealper> hmm...
#3307 [20:31] <Kealper> try this....
#3308 [20:31] <Kealper> ??> jwsmall89 win/reinst
#3309 [20:31] <VoxelHead> jwsmall89: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3310 [20:31] <VoxelHead> jwsmall89: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3313 [20:32] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: I've done that twice but will try again
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#3315 [20:32] <Kealper> jwsmall89: oh, don't bother then
#3316 [20:32] <RiskyBeaverrrr> messed up my name >:<
#3317 [20:32] <RiskyBeaverrrr> jerks
#3318 [20:33] <RiskyBeaverrrr> lol
#3319 [20:33] <Kealper> jwsmall89: third time is not usually a charm when it comes to this....
#3320 [20:33] <RiskyBeaverrrr> coco leave
#3321 [20:33] <Kealper> jwsmall89: try uninstalling and reinstalling Java
#3322 [20:33] <RiskyBeaverrrr> you noob who steals money
#3323 [20:33] <Kealper> RiskyBeaverrrr: stop failing
#3324 [20:33] <RiskyBeaverrrr> at?
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#3326 [20:33] <Kealper> RiskyBeaverrrr: coco was not the one who pirated the game, that was someone else
#3327 [20:33] <RiskyBeaverrrr> hey
#3328 [20:33] <RiskyBeaverrrr> you said coco
#3329 [20:33] <RiskyBeaverrrr> and im like
#3330 [20:34] <RiskyBeaverrrr> flippin
#3331 [20:34] <RiskyBeaverrrr> plus
#3332 [20:34] <Kealper> i've said loads of names in the last half hour >.>
#3333 [20:34] <VoxelHead> let's all ask each other! that'll solve this problem!
#3334 [20:34] <Kealper> vox, shut up
#3335 [20:34] <RiskyBeaverrrr> my thing crashes
#3336 [20:34] <VoxelHead> hai!
#3337 [20:34] <RiskyBeaverrrr> every few minutes
#3338 [20:34] <Kealper> RiskyBeaverrrr: has it ever worked properly before?
#3339 [20:34] <RiskyBeaverrrr> firefox is retarded
#3340 [20:34] <RiskyBeaverrrr> just sayin
#3341 [20:35] <RiskyBeaverrrr> i use chrome
#3342 [20:35] <Kealper> i have been using it since atleast 1.5, never had an issue with it
#3343 [20:35] <RiskyBeaverrrr> firefox just keeps crashing
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#3345 [20:35] <RiskyBeaverrrr> idk
#3346 [20:35] <Kealper> using Firefox 6 right now \o/
#3347 [20:35] <RiskyBeaverrrr> its messed
#3348 [20:35] <RiskyBeaverrrr> finally!@
#3349 [20:35] <RiskyBeaverrrr> brb
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#3351 [20:36] <RiskyBeaver> as i was saying
#3352 [20:36] <RiskyBeaver> i used to use firefox
#3353 [20:36] <RiskyBeaver> then i found chrome
#3354 [20:36] <MysteryX95> ./ns ghost nick pass
#3355 [20:36] <MysteryX95> try that next time beaver
#3356 [20:36] <Kealper> wouldn't work if he has not registered with nickserv
#3357 [20:36] <RiskyBeaver> lol..
#3358 [20:37] <RiskyBeaver> FLAP
#3359 [20:37] <Kealper> and figuring how he is using Mibbit, i'm going to go out on a limb and say he hasn;t
#3360 [20:37] <RiskyBeaver> PANCAKEs
#3361 [20:37] <Kealper> hasn't*
#3362 [20:37] <Kealper> anyways
#3363 [20:37] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: has your game ever worked well before?
#3364 [20:37] <Kealper> hmm....
#3365 [20:38] <RiskyBeaver> my game?
#3366 [20:38] * Kealper scrolls up
#3366 [20:38] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: yes
#3367 [20:38] <RiskyBeaver> works fine?
#3368 [20:38] <RiskyBeaver> i dont use the in broswer game?
#3369 [20:38] <RiskyBeaver> browser*
#3370 [20:38] <Kealper> didn't you just say it was crashing every few min?
#3371 [20:38] <RiskyBeaver> this chat
#3372 [20:38] <RiskyBeaver> is
#3373 [20:38] <Kealper> oh, wait...nvm
#3374 [20:38] <Kealper> i thought you meant your game was >.>
#3375 [20:38] <RiskyBeaver> guess you didnt scroll up enough
#3376 [20:39] <RiskyBeaver> i actually got my game to work because of greyvulpine
#3377 [20:39] <RiskyBeaver> kudos to that person
#3378 [20:39] <Kealper> grey is a beast, yes lol
#3379 [20:39] <RiskyBeaver> yup
#3380 [20:40] <RiskyBeaver> he helped me out
#3381 [20:40] <RiskyBeaver> and gave me the wrong link!
#3382 [20:40] <RiskyBeaver> but helped me out nonetheless
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#3384 [20:40] <RiskyBeaver> Question
#3385 [20:40] <Kealper> jwsmall89: did you reinstall java?
#3386 [20:41] <RiskyBeaver> stupid question.
#3387 [20:41] <RiskyBeaver> an op is an admin right?
#3388 [20:41] <RiskyBeaver> yes no? maybe so?
#3389 [20:42] <RiskyBeaver> ham cracker?
#3390 [20:42] <RiskyBeaver> ..
#3391 [20:43] <Kealper> op on what?
#3392 [20:43] <Kealper> ingame?
#3393 [20:43] <RiskyBeaver> you got a star
#3394 [20:43] <RiskyBeaver> ..
#3395 [20:43] <Kealper> oh, me? yes a channel operator is a channel admin
#3396 [20:43] <RiskyBeaver> fancy
#3397 [20:44] <RiskyBeaver> and how do you become one?
#3398 [20:44] <MysteryX95> by being trusted person and behaving
#3399 [20:44] <MysteryX95> at least that's how it is on the server I come from
#3400 [20:44] <RiskyBeaver> i never asked you mr no star >:l
#3401 [20:44] <Kealper> by a vote of the other ops in the irc community
#3402 [20:44] <RiskyBeaver> lol jk
#3403 [20:45] <RiskyBeaver> mm fancy fancy
#3404 [20:45] <Kealper> so...pretty much if others think you deserve it
#3405 [20:45] <RiskyBeaver> i was almost a admin in a different game
#3406 [20:45] <RiskyBeaver> but
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#3408 [20:45] <Kealper> jwsmall89: o.o
#3409 [20:45] <RiskyBeaver> the person running the games server had a crappy computer
#3410 [20:45] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Done, still the same
#3411 [20:46] <Kealper> jwsmall89: that ain't good then
#3412 [20:46] <RiskyBeaver> asked me to carry on with the game
#3413 [20:46] <Kealper> jwsmall89: ever used a batch file?
#3414 [20:46] <RiskyBeaver> but i had no idea
#3415 [20:46] <RiskyBeaver> how to run
#3416 [20:46] <RiskyBeaver> a few years ago
#3417 [20:46] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: I am quite familier with them yes
#3418 [20:46] <Kealper> ok then, this will make explaining this a heck of a lot more easier
#3419 [20:46] <Kealper> !server
#3420 [20:46] <RiskyBeaver> rofl
#3421 [20:47] <Kealper> get the .jar one, and throw it in a separate folder
#3422 [20:47] <Kealper> whoops
#3423 [20:47] <Kealper> !client
#3424 [20:47] <Kealper> that one lol
#3425 [20:47] <VoxelHead> i got chocolate bubblegum!
#3426 [20:47] <Kealper> vox!
#3427 [20:47] <VoxelHead> You! Serial number and primary function!
#3428 [20:47] <RiskyBeaver> wtf?
#3429 [20:47] <RiskyBeaver> vox!
#3430 [20:47] <gPad2002> vox, shut up
#3431 [20:47] <Kealper> i said shut up!
#3432 [20:47] <VoxelHead> howdy
#3433 [20:47] <RiskyBeaver> damn
#3434 [20:47] <VoxelHead> fine
#3435 [20:47] <Kealper> ._.
#3436 [20:47] <gPad2002> Damn bot..
#3437 [20:47] <RiskyBeaver> lol.
#3438 [20:47] <RiskyBeaver> yay
#3439 [20:47] <RiskyBeaver> fancy fences
#3440 [20:47] <Kealper> fail
#3441 [20:48] <dopeghoti> Are you fighting with Vox again? :p
#3442 [20:48] <gPad2002> Oh, dopeghoti
#3443 [20:48] <Kealper> bah
#3444 [20:48] <gPad2002> I tested my new bot's timer
#3445 [20:48] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: So, i need to grab .jar?
#3446 [20:48] <gPad2002> It said "vox, shut up" every seven mins :P
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#3448 [20:48] <dopeghoti> Charming.
#3449 [20:48] <Kealper> jwsmall89: yes, tell me whne you have downloaded it and thrown it into it's own folder
#3450 [20:48] <gPad2002> Lulz
#3451 [20:49] <Kealper> when*
#3452 [20:49] <gPad2002> It was a good test
#3453 [20:49] <jakemb> LUCLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3454 [20:49] <jakemb> JK
#3455 [20:49] <RiskyBeaver> i wonder
#3456 [20:49] <RiskyBeaver> if i throw my computer
#3457 [20:49] <RiskyBeaver> out the window
#3458 [20:49] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Ok
#3459 [20:49] <RiskyBeaver> the server might just work
#3460 [20:49] <MysteryX95> welp
#3461 [20:49] <MysteryX95> bye
#3462 [20:49] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: if you care to be a guineapig....
#3463 [20:49] <RiskyBeaver> you think it might work?
#3464 [20:50] <RiskyBeaver> hey
#3465 [20:50] <jakemb> Kealper: sry, what is the one smp again?
#3466 [20:50] <RiskyBeaver> i am not a guineapig
#3467 [20:50] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: i have a setup wizard for a minecraft server on windows
#3468 [20:50] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper
#3469 [20:50] <RiskyBeaver> i can set up a server
#3470 [20:50] <jakemb> how?
#3471 [20:50] <RiskyBeaver> the problem is i dont know if it works
#3472 [20:50] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Done
#3473 [20:50] <jakemb> ehhhhh ok
#3474 [20:51] <Kealper> jwsmall89: ok, now what OS are you using?
#3475 [20:51] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Win 7 x64
#3476 [20:51] <RiskyBeaver> <,<
#3477 [20:51] <Kealper> jakemb: uhh...the server i gave earlier?
#3478 [20:51] <RiskyBeaver> fancy!
#3479 [20:51] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Home prem
#3480 [20:51] <jakemb> yes, please
#3481 [20:51] <Kealper> jwsmall89: got the x86 java or x64 java installed?
#3482 [20:51] <Kealper> jakemb: smp.shadow-craft.net
#3483 [20:52] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: had both, but cant find x64, so, i have x86
#3484 [20:52] <RiskyBeaver> x32659246 java
#3485 [20:52] <jakemb> ok thx
#3486 [20:52] <RiskyBeaver> :p
#3487 [20:52] <RiskyBeaver> rofl
#3488 [20:52] <RiskyBeaver> look at that face
#3489 [20:52] <RiskyBeaver> :p
#3490 [20:52] <jakemb> Can you set up an smp for free?
#3491 [20:52] <Kealper> you do realize for people using real irc clients, that is just text, right?
#3492 [20:52] <Kealper> jakemb: yes, it is free to set up a server
#3493 [20:53] <dopeghoti> Yes; setting up a server is free; it is the client for which one must pay.
#3494 [20:53] <RiskyBeaver> ....
#3495 [20:53] <Kealper> jakemb: but you have to have a good computer to run it on, and your internet must be good enough
#3496 [20:53] <RiskyBeaver> what if i have a failed internet in africa
#3497 [20:53] <RiskyBeaver> would i be able to run a server
#3498 [20:53] <RiskyBeaver> just putting things out there
#3499 [20:53] <Kealper> then it'll explode when one person joins
#3500 [20:53] <RiskyBeaver> mm
#3501 [20:53] <jakemb> is it on minecraft.net if so i think you have to download two diff things also i hear its really hard to set up
#3502 [20:53] <RiskyBeaver> k
#3503 [20:54] * N throws an anvil at RiskyBeaver
#3503 [20:54] <Kealper> !server
#3504 [20:54] <RiskyBeaver> its not hard to set up
#3505 [20:54] <RiskyBeaver> owww
#3506 [20:54] <RiskyBeaver> :l
#3507 [20:54] <Kealper> jakemb: the link that aubot just linked
#3508 [20:54] <RiskyBeaver> you could have given me brain damage
#3509 [20:54] <dopeghoti> Download .jar. Run .jar. Done and done; enjoy your server.
#3510 [20:54] <RiskyBeaver> :p
#3511 [20:54] <Kealper> jakemb: and if you are using windows, i made a program that makes it really easy to set it up, if you wanted to try that
#3512 [20:54] <RiskyBeaver> especially for people who have pet penguins
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#3514 [20:55] <Kealper> as a matter-of-fact, the utility is Linux-friendly!
#3515 [20:55] <RiskyBeaver> Penguin friendly too.
#3516 [20:55] * Kealper was making a joke about penguins and Linux
#3516 [20:56] <RiskyBeaver> i dont get your jokes.
#3517 [20:56] <Kealper> Linux's mascot logo thing is Tux the penguin :/
#3518 [20:56] <RiskyBeaver> i dont use linux
#3519 [20:56] * Kealper couldn't tell
#3519 [20:56] <RiskyBeaver> I own a semi automatic cheese grater
#3520 [20:56] <RiskyBeaver> as a computer
#3521 [20:56] <dopeghoti> You also don't appear to use the shift key much.
#3522 [20:56] <jakemb> ok im using our lod comp. bcs sis kiked me off... ugggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg :(
#3523 [20:56] <RiskyBeaver> naw
#3524 [20:56] <jakemb> old comp.
#3525 [20:57] <RiskyBeaver> i mean
#3526 [20:57] <RiskyBeaver> i would
#3527 [20:57] <RiskyBeaver> but
#3528 [20:57] <RiskyBeaver> would you rather me talk like this
#3529 [20:57] <Kealper> jakemb: if you really wanted to run your own server, i could tell you if it could run one after a few quick questions
#3530 [20:57] <RiskyBeaver> OR TALK LIKE THIS
#3531 [20:57] <RiskyBeaver> mm no
#3532 [20:57] <jakemb> Kealper: ok
#3533 [20:57] <Kealper> TALKING LIKE THIS = kicked from channel
#3534 [20:57] <gPad2002> Damn straight
#3535 [20:58] <Kealper> talking like this = dopeghoti silently nerdraging, but stay in channel
#3536 [20:58] <RiskyBeaver> then why are you talking light that
#3537 [20:58] <RiskyBeaver> like*
#3538 [20:58] <RiskyBeaver> light?
#3539 [20:58] <RiskyBeaver> wth?
#3540 [20:58] <Kealper> Talking like this = dopeghoti is happy
#3541 [20:58] <jakemb> ok, what about it?
#3542 [20:58] <RiskyBeaver> im not trying to keep anyone happy.
#3543 [20:58] <Kealper> jakemb: well, first...do you know what your computer specs are?
#3544 [20:58] <RiskyBeaver> yayyy
#3545 [20:58] <RiskyBeaver> it has a can opener
#3546 [20:58] <jakemb> no, what are specs
#3547 [20:59] <Kealper> and RiskyBeaver i talk in all lower-case unless i'm typing a name of something because this is a rather informal chat and i can't be bothered to touch my shift key more
#3548 [20:59] <Kealper> jakemb: specifications, here...try this
#3549 [20:59] <Kealper> ??> win/dxdiag
#3550 [20:59] <Kealper> whoops
#3551 [20:59] <Kealper> ?? win/dxdiag
#3552 [20:59] <VoxelHead> You're doing it wrong.
#3553 [20:59] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3554 [20:59] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3555 [20:59] <RiskyBeaver> rofl
#3556 [21:00] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Have both x86 and x64 java
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#3558 [21:00] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper
#3559 [21:00] <Kealper> jwsmall89: fair enough, well, first make a batch file in the same directory as minecraft.jar
#3560 [21:00] <RiskyBeaver> if its informal than why are you bothering me about the shift key.
#3561 [21:00] <jakemb> i cant do anything right now bcs my stupid sis kicked me off!
#3562 [21:00] <jakemb> ggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...Anger!!!!!!!!
#3563 [21:01] <RiskyBeaver> how are you in chat?
#3564 [21:01] <RiskyBeaver> then?
#3565 [21:01] <RiskyBeaver> just wondering.
#3566 [21:01] <Kealper> jwsmall89: in that file put java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft.jar net.Minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3567 [21:01] <jakemb> older comp, but it works
#3568 [21:01] <Rarwzor> can somebody tells me what basic things to collect to make pick?
#3569 [21:01] <RiskyBeaver> wood
#3570 [21:01] <RiskyBeaver> sticks
#3571 [21:01] <RiskyBeaver> and stones
#3572 [21:01] <VoxelHead> I had no idea.
#3573 [21:01] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: i'm SSH'd to a linux server running in a datacenter using a commandline irc client called Irssi
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#3575 [21:01] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper
#3576 [21:01] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Adn theeeen? lol
#3577 [21:01] <RiskyBeaver> im using mibbit.
#3578 [21:01] <Rarwzor> thx
#3579 [21:01] <RiskyBeaver> and im tired.
#3580 [21:01] <Killmore> hi :)
#3581 [21:01] <Kealper> jwsmall89: save and run it
#3582 [21:02] <Kealper> Killmore: ello
#3583 [21:02] <Killmore> is it possible somewhere to undind the left-Alt button ? I want to use this button to talk on ventrilo and it screw my game :(
#3584 [21:02] <Kealper> Killmore: let me check...
#3585 [21:02] <Kealper> hmm...
#3586 [21:02] <Kealper> doesn't look like it :/
#3587 [21:03] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper 'makes beeping noises as he processes the problems'
#3588 [21:03] <RiskyBeaver> yayy
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#3590 [21:03] <Killmore> Kealper: yes I know from the game itself you cant, but I was wondering if you can modify a file somewhere
#3591 [21:03] <Exrosis> Can someone help me?
#3592 [21:03] <RiskyBeaver> i sure can
#3593 [21:03] <RiskyBeaver> try
#3594 [21:04] <RiskyBeaver> problem?
#3595 [21:04] <Kealper> Killmore: ahh, yeah no idea how one would go about doing that without affecting other programs :/
#3596 [21:04] <Exrosis> everytime i hit a monster the game crashes =[
#3597 [21:04] <RiskyBeaver> Mmm
#3598 [21:04] <RiskyBeaver> That is one problem you got there.
#3599 [21:04] <Exrosis> =O
#3600 [21:04] <Exrosis> =[
#3601 [21:04] <VoxelHead> By the cosmic dust!
#3602 [21:04] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: nothing happens
#3603 [21:04] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper? care to say something
#3604 [21:04] <jakemb> also can anyone tell me what i might have done wrong? i tried to download planes mod
#3605 [21:05] <RiskyBeaver> He's the person who knows the meaning of life.
#3606 [21:05] <Kealper> jwsmall89: put pause on the second line of that batch file and run it again
#3607 [21:05] <dopeghoti> jakemb: that may have been your first mistake.
#3608 [21:05] <RiskyBeaver> Also can fix your problem
#3609 [21:05] <Exrosis> xD
#3610 [21:05] <jakemb> oops nevermind they havent come out w/ update yet
#3611 [21:05] <RiskyBeaver> Most likely.
#3612 [21:05] <Kealper> jwsmall89: if it says "java" is is not known, thne that is a simple fix
#3613 [21:05] <RiskyBeaver> Exrosis
#3614 [21:05] <Exrosis> ??
#3615 [21:05] <RiskyBeaver> Do you have any mods installed?
#3616 [21:05] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: "pause"???
#3617 [21:05] <Exrosis> nope 0.o
#3618 [21:05] <RiskyBeaver> Okay
#3619 [21:05] <jakemb> no
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#3621 [21:06] <Kealper> jwsmall89: makes the batch file stop and wait for a key press to continue
#3622 [21:06] <RiskyBeaver> How about you back up your saves
#3623 [21:06] <jakemb> i want to get "comands"
#3624 [21:06] <Kealper> jwsmall89: so if an error is being thrown, you can read it
#3625 [21:06] <RiskyBeaver> And re-download the game.
#3626 [21:06] <jakemb> did
#3627 [21:06] <Exrosis> kk
#3628 [21:06] <Kealper> ??> jakemb win/reinstl
#3629 [21:06] <Kealper> bah
#3630 [21:06] <Kealper> ??> jakemb win/reinst
#3631 [21:06] <VoxelHead> jakemb: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3632 [21:06] <VoxelHead> jakemb: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3633 [21:06] <jakemb> wahts that in
#3634 [21:06] <jakemb> ?
#3635 [21:07] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: put the word "pause" on the second line???
#3636 [21:07] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper
#3637 [21:07] <Kealper> jwsmall89: yes, just the word pause
#3638 [21:07] <RiskyBeaver> I'm helping! =D
#3639 [21:07] <Kealper> jwsmall89: save it, then run it again
#3640 [21:07] <RiskyBeaver> I can also use the shift key.
#3641 [21:07] <jakemb> deleat meta inf is what i was told..."in minecraft.jar"
#3642 [21:07] <RiskyBeaver> Just really lazy half the time.
#3643 [21:07] <RiskyBeaver> Delete meta inf if you are installing a mod.
#3644 [21:08] <jakemb> yea
#3645 [21:08] <RiskyBeaver> No idea what you are doing though.
#3646 [21:08] <jakemb> haha same here haha
#3647 [21:08] <VoxelHead> they've locked down their fortress... with locks
#3648 [21:08] <RiskyBeaver> shut up voxel
#3649 [21:08] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#3649 [21:08] <jakemb> crap, i think i screwed up the computer!! jk
#3650 [21:08] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#3651 [21:08] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: "Could not find the main class: net.Minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit."
#3652 [21:09] <Kealper> jwsmall89: oh, maybe i failed at that....one sec
#3653 [21:09] <jakemb> how common is 5 dungeons within 50 blocks of eachother
#3654 [21:09] <jakemb> ???
#3655 [21:09] <RiskyBeaver> not common
#3656 [21:09] <RiskyBeaver> unless
#3657 [21:09] <RiskyBeaver> you are using a seed
#3658 [21:10] <Kealper> jwsmall89: hmm....not sure if Java is case-sensitive with those things, make the "M" in net.Minecraft.LauncherFrame into just "m"
#3659 [21:10] <jakemb> no seed and i found 2 skely 2 zombie, and 1 spider, good thing i was on peaceful! 4 in one cave
#3660 [21:10] <xales> Kealper - you shouldn't launch it that way any more
#3661 [21:10] <Kealper> jakemb: if you have that, i want that map's seed lol
#3662 [21:10] <xales> just -jar minecraft.jar works
#3663 [21:10] <RiskyBeaver> it is uppercase.
#3664 [21:10] <RiskyBeaver> lol..
#3665 [21:10] <RiskyBeaver> READ
#3666 [21:10] <jakemb> ok wahts ur email?
#3667 [21:11] <Kealper> xales: but that's....ghetto
#3668 [21:11] <xales> Kealper: it's actually the correct way to do it, lol
#3669 [21:11] <Kealper> jakemb: i was kidding lol
#3670 [21:11] <jakemb> o iktaht
#3671 [21:11] <RiskyBeaver> xales
#3672 [21:11] <Kealper> xales: mc.net says different >.>
#3673 [21:11] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper doesn't read.
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#3675 [21:11] <Exrosis> thx riskybeaver, it works now =D
#3676 [21:11] <jakemb> lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3677 [21:11] <RiskyBeaver> yw
#3678 [21:11] <RiskyBeaver> YAY
#3679 [21:11] <RiskyBeaver> I helped!!!
#3680 [21:11] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper you see that?!
#3681 [21:12] <Kealper> lol...
#3682 [21:12] <jakemb> id really care... btw 64 natural diamons!!
#3683 [21:12] <Kealper> grats?
#3684 [21:12] <RiskyBeaver> I can help someone!
#3685 [21:12] * xales kicked jakemb from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ...)
#3686 [21:12] <RiskyBeaver> Total Annihiliation
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#3688 [21:12] <jakemb> y was i kiked?
#3689 [21:12] <Kealper> jakemb: if i had to guess, you were probably kicked for the lol spam
#3690 [21:12] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame "Could not find the main class: net.Minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit."
#3691 [21:12] <jakemb> ok sry
#3692 [21:12] <xales> Try not dyping like a demented eel, as well
#3693 [21:13] <xales> This isn't a text message
#3694 [21:13] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame "Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit."
#3695 [21:13] <RiskyBeaver> I helped someone!
#3696 [21:13] <jakemb> uh ok
#3697 [21:13] <RiskyBeaver> YES!
#3698 [21:13] <Kealper> yeah, i seen that the first time lol
#3699 [21:13] <Kealper> jwsmall89: hmm...
#3700 [21:13] <RiskyBeaver> Just gotta rub it in.
#3701 [21:13] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: sry bout 2nd
#3702 [21:13] <Kealper> jwsmall89: fair enough
#3703 [21:13] <xales> jwsmall89: Try redownloading the jar? :|
#3704 [21:13] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper.
#3705 [21:14] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper!
#3706 [21:14] <Kealper> let me check if it's case-sensitive, i kinda wanna know
#3707 [21:14] <Kealper> RiskyBeaver: what >.>
#3708 [21:14] <xales> Kealper: Knowing Java...it won't be
#3709 [21:14] <RiskyBeaver> Guess what..
#3710 [21:14] <jakemb> minecraft is adictive!
#3711 [21:14] <RiskyBeaver> Mhm
#3712 [21:15] <jakemb> hehehe
#3713 [21:15] <RiskyBeaver> I was playing runescape. Which of course is a totally lame game.
#3714 [21:15] <Kealper> jwsmall89: hmm....just try double-clicking the jar
#3715 [21:15] <RiskyBeaver> And someone recommended Minecraft.
#3716 [21:15] <Kealper> jwsmall89: it probably won't work, but one can hope ._.
#3717 [21:15] <jakemb> i hope to get a new com someday. sighh
#3718 [21:16] <RiskyBeaver> My computer is actually a transformed lobster.
#3719 [21:16] <jakemb> ha that kinda cool
#3720 [21:16] <RiskyBeaver> Not really.
#3721 [21:17] <Kealper> hmm...
#3722 [21:17] <RiskyBeaver> Its actually a epically modified Dell.
#3723 [21:17] <RiskyBeaver> an*
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#3725 [21:17] <Kealper> i think Java might be case-sensitive with the class names
#3726 [21:17] <jakemb> who thinks
#3727 [21:17] <jakemb> Notch should add horses?
#3728 [21:17] <Kealper> jwsmall89: ok, it is
#3729 [21:17] <RiskyBeaver> I think occasionally.
#3730 [21:17] <RiskyBeaver> Oh
#3731 [21:17] <Kealper> jwsmall89: in your batch file
#3732 [21:17] <RiskyBeaver> Horses
#3733 [21:17] <RiskyBeaver> Yea definitely .
#3734 [21:18] <jakemb> &or pagasus
#3735 [21:18] <RiskyBeaver> No.
#3736 [21:18] <Kealper> jwsmall89: replace "net.Minecraft.LauncherFrame" with "net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#3737 [21:18] <RiskyBeaver> Make horses a little rare.
#3738 [21:18] <jakemb> just horses
#3739 [21:18] <RiskyBeaver> Like wolves.
#3740 [21:18] <Kealper> jwsmall89: and yes, caps in that do matter, apparently
#3741 [21:18] <jakemb> all types from mo creatures
#3742 [21:18] <jakemb> more rare than wolves
#3743 [21:18] <RiskyBeaver> I don't use mo' creatures.
#3744 [21:18] <xales> jakemb: This is a help channel, not a chat channel. If you want to talk about Minecraft, do it in #minecraft
#3745 [21:19] <jakemb> k
#3746 [21:19] <RiskyBeaver> I used the builder mod.
#3747 [21:19] <RiskyBeaver> Disliked it though.
#3748 [21:19] <RiskyBeaver> xales
#3749 [21:20] <xales> Yes?
#3750 [21:20] <RiskyBeaver> What's your favorite animal?
#3751 [21:20] <xales> ...
#3752 [21:20] <xales> Did you not see what I just said?
#3753 [21:20] <RiskyBeaver> What?
#3754 [21:20] <aetherian> narwhal. maybe lemming.
#3755 [21:20] <aetherian> oh, sorry.
#3756 [21:20] <RiskyBeaver> :D
#3757 [21:20] <VoxelHead> =D
#3758 [21:20] <RiskyBeaver> lmao
#3759 [21:20] <aetherian> RiskyBeaver: go to #mcchatter for chatter.
#3760 [21:20] <RiskyBeaver> Shut up voxel
#3761 [21:20] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#3762 [21:20] <RiskyBeaver> Aetherian
#3763 [21:21] <RiskyBeaver> I was just making a joke.
#3764 [21:21] <RiskyBeaver> chill out.
#3765 [21:21] <Kealper> #MCChatter or #Minecraft for random chatting
#3766 [21:21] <aetherian> what
#3767 [21:21] <aetherian> I am chill
#3768 [21:21] <RiskyBeaver> A joke.
#3769 [21:21] <aetherian> chill like a dead frozen body
#3770 [21:21] <RiskyBeaver> ew
#3771 [21:21] <Kealper> this is the tech support channel, and talking while others are being helped is counter-productive
#3772 [21:21] <RiskyBeaver> Kealper.
#3773 [21:21] <RiskyBeaver> I helped.
#3774 [21:21] <RiskyBeaver> Don't hate on my epicness.
#3775 [21:21] <RiskyBeaver> Also.
#3776 [21:22] <RiskyBeaver> No one needs helping.
#3777 [21:22] <Kealper> so jwsmall89 is not a person then?
#3778 [21:22] <RiskyBeaver> I suppose not.
#3779 [21:22] <aetherian> call 1800-not-epic D:
#3780 [21:22] <aetherian> not really. don't.
#3781 [21:22] <RiskyBeaver> Must be an alient.
#3782 [21:22] <RiskyBeaver> rofl
#3783 [21:22] <RiskyBeaver> alient
#3784 [21:22] <RiskyBeaver> alien*
#3785 [21:23] <gPad2002> Kealper: He's not talking
#3786 [21:23] <gPad2002> So
#3787 [21:23] <RiskyBeaver> OWNED
#3788 [21:23] <RiskyBeaver> Had to.
#3789 [21:23] <Kealper> gPad2002: i'd assume he is busy with other things, but he is still in here for getting help
#3790 [21:23] <gPad2002> Then resume helping him when he gets back
#3791 [21:23] <gPad2002> In the meantime, enjoy your free time
#3792 [21:23] <RiskyBeaver> If he does.
#3793 [21:24] <gPad2002> ^
#3794 [21:24] <RiskyBeaver> He might have gone to bed.
#3795 [21:24] <gPad2002> I'm already in bed
#3796 [21:24] <RiskyBeaver> And got bored of things he didn't understand.
#3797 [21:24] <gPad2002> Your argument is invalid
#3798 [21:24] <Kealper> why is anyone questioning what i say? if an op says jump, you'd better jump
#3799 [21:24] <RiskyBeaver> I am next to a bed.
#3800 [21:24] <RiskyBeaver> I'm sitting.
#3801 [21:24] <gPad2002> Kealper: Because we treat you as an equal, not as a Nazi
#3802 [21:25] <RiskyBeaver> Finally.
#3803 [21:25] <RiskyBeaver> Someone who has some logic.
#3804 [21:25] <RiskyBeaver> Not saying i have any logic.
#3805 [21:25] <Kealper> gPad2002: both me and xales have said to keep the chatter in here down for now
#3806 [21:25] <RiskyBeaver> If i wanted to get trolled by 12 year olds i would have left by now.
#3807 [21:26] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: sry
#3808 [21:26] * Kealper kicked RiskyBeaver from #minecrafthelp (Reason: RiskyBeaver)
#3809 [21:26] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: C:\Windows\system32>java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.Launc
#3810 [21:26] <jwsmall89> herFrame
#3811 [21:26] <jwsmall89> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/Launche
#3812 [21:26] <jwsmall89> rFrame
#3813 [21:26] <jwsmall89> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3814 [21:26] <jwsmall89> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
#3815 [21:26] <jwsmall89> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
#3816 [21:26] <jwsmall89> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
#3817 [21:26] <jwsmall89> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
#3818 [21:26] * RiskyBeaver [RiskyBeaver@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3819 [21:26] <jwsmall89> at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
#3820 [21:26] <gPad2002> Kealper: I'd appreciate that if people are in the process of being here and not AFK, like right now
#3821 [21:26] <Kealper> bah!
#3822 [21:26] <jwsmall89> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
#3823 [21:26] <jwsmall89> Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit.
#3824 [21:26] <jwsmall89> C:\Windows\system32>pause
#3825 [21:26] <RiskyBeaver> Not cool.
#3826 [21:26] <jwsmall89> Press any key to continue . . .
#3827 [21:26] <Kealper> gPad2002: well, he's back now
#3828 [21:27] * gPad2002 presses the any key
#3828 [21:27] <gPad2002> Kealper: I just said that..
#3829 [21:27] <jwsmall89> wheres the any key??? lol
#3830 [21:27] <Keltinray> RiskyBeaver, it's also not cool to whine at people who are trying to keep the channel in order for people who actually -need- help.
#3831 [21:27] <RiskyBeaver> Kelt.
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#3833 [21:27] <RiskyBeaver> There wasn't anyone in needing of help at the time.
#3834 [21:27] <Keltinray> IRC is not a democracy. Deal with it.
#3835 [21:27] <RiskyBeaver> So you deal with that.
#3836 [21:28] <gPad2002> Keltinray: Then why are you here?
#3837 [21:28] <aetherian> aw snap
#3838 [21:28] <gPad2002> Because you want to be
#3839 [21:28] * xales kicked RiskyBeaver from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I don't like your attitude. This is your very last warning.)
#3840 [21:28] <gPad2002> It's not a total democracy, true
#3841 [21:28] <gPad2002> But it isn't exactly a dictatorship either
#3842 [21:28] <Keltinray> gPad2002, because I can pick up on things and learn from other's issues should I encounter them
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#3845 [21:28] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: Any ideas?
#3846 [21:28] <RiskyBeaver> One question and i'll leave.
#3847 [21:28] <Kealper> jwsmall89: hmm...you are running the one downloaded from AuBot's link, and not the one in your .minecraft/bin folder, right?
#3848 [21:29] <RiskyBeaver> Willingly.
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#3850 [21:29] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: correct
#3851 [21:29] <gPad2002> Keltinray: if there's nobody currently being helped, then I really don't see a problem with idle chatter
#3852 [21:29] <Kealper> jwsmall89: hmm...this is...interesting then
#3853 [21:29] <RiskyBeaver> This is my question.
#3854 [21:30] <gPad2002> If it starts getting in the way of helping people then, sure, it should be stopped temporarily
#3855 [21:30] <Kealper> jwsmall89: try running it with just java -jar minecraft.jar then
#3856 [21:30] <RiskyBeaver> If i am hardly talking and gPad is mostly contradicting you, why kick me?
#3857 [21:30] <gPad2002> ^ he has a point
#3858 [21:30] <xales> As I said in the kick messages, because of your attitude
#3859 [21:30] <Kealper> i'm not really liking gPad2002's attitude right now either, but he has seniority over you
#3860 [21:30] <RiskyBeaver> gPad has no attitude?
#3861 [21:31] <xales> His is not the same as yours either
#3862 [21:31] <agu10^_> i made my server... it's running
#3863 [21:31] <agu10^_> it says it's in the port 25565
#3864 [21:31] <Kealper> agu10^_: and you can connect?
#3865 [21:31] <agu10^_> no
#3866 [21:31] <Kealper> :/
#3867 [21:31] <RiskyBeaver> How does that make him any better than me? When he contradicts you and goes against you.
#3868 [21:31] <agu10^_> i redirected the port in the router
#3869 [21:31] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: "Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar"
#3870 [21:31] <Kealper> O.o
#3871 [21:32] <RiskyBeaver> And all i ask is a simple small conversation when no one is talking.
#3872 [21:32] <gPad2002> RiskyBeaver: That's not what he's saying
#3873 [21:32] <xales> Kealper: That = "file not found" usually
#3874 [21:32] <Kealper> xales: yeah, figured..but the file should be there
#3875 [21:32] <gPad2002> Either way, we have a common opinion
#3876 [21:32] <RiskyBeaver> gPad.
#3877 [21:32] <RiskyBeaver> Pm me
#3878 [21:32] <RiskyBeaver> so i dont get kicked again.
#3879 [21:32] <gPad2002> Sure, why not
#3880 [21:32] <xales> RiskyBeaver: Actually, people were talking, and Kealper and I had told you to stop more than once
#3881 [21:32] * gPad2002 adds another window to his 50-odd windows
#3881 [21:32] <RiskyBeaver> K.
#3882 [21:32] <Kealper> i'm currently trying to help someone, and if you don't shut it i'll kickban the both of you
#3883 [21:33] <jwsmall89> lol
#3884 [21:33] <Kealper> jwsmall89: minecraft.jar is in the same directory as that batch file?
#3885 [21:33] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: correct
#3886 [21:33] <Kealper> man, your computer just seems to hate this latest Minecraft to death ._.
#3887 [21:34] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: correct! lol
#3888 [21:34] <Kealper> gimme a sec, doing more experiments with the jar
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#3890 [21:36] <Kealper> jwsmall89: i'm thinking that download you got was corrupted....mine works fine with just "java -jar minecraft.jar" in a batch file
#3891 [21:36] <Kealper> !client try redownloading it
#3892 [21:36] <Kealper> agu10^_: sorry, forgot about you :/
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#3894 [21:36] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: (For Linux: http://Minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar ) this .jar???
#3895 [21:37] <Kealper> agu10^_: ok then, what IP are you using to connect, and have you touched server.properties?
#3896 [21:37] <Kealper> jwsmall89: yes
#3897 [21:37] <agu10^_> Kealper, nevermind, I'll use hamachi
#3898 [21:37] <xales> agu10^_: you shouldn't
#3899 [21:37] <xales> :|
#3900 [21:37] * Kealper shudders at the thought of Hamachi
#3900 [21:37] <xales> ??> agu10^_ fubar/hamachi
#3901 [21:37] <agu10^_> why not?
#3902 [21:37] <VoxelHead> agu10^_: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#3903 [21:37] <VoxelHead> agu10^_: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#3904 [21:37] <agu10^_> oh I see
#3905 [21:38] <Kealper> not only that, it lags to crap because it can't keep up with Minecraft's packetspam
#3906 [21:38] <agu10^_> hmm
#3907 [21:38] <agu10^_> well but port forwarding isn't working either
#3908 [21:38] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: done
#3909 [21:38] <Kealper> so, last question is still valid, what IP are you trying to connect to, and did you change server.properties at all?
#3910 [21:39] <agu10^_> "[INFO] Disconnecting /200.69.201.237:4954: Took too long to log in"
#3911 [21:39] <Kealper> jwsmall89: ok, and paste the contents of your batch file into chat, so i can be sure it's launching right
#3912 [21:39] <agu10^_> lol, that's the issue
#3913 [21:39] <agu10^_> it takes too long to log in
#3914 [21:39] <agu10^_> why?
#3915 [21:39] <xales> agu10^_: What's your username?
#3916 [21:39] <agu10^_> does it matter?
#3917 [21:39] <jwsmall89> java -jar minecraft.jar
#3918 [21:39] <jwsmall89> pause
#3919 [21:39] <xales> Yes, it does
#3920 [21:39] <Kealper> jwsmall89: ok, run the batch file
#3921 [21:39] <agu10^_> Agu10
#3922 [21:40] <xales> agu10^_: You haven't bought the game...
#3923 [21:40] <xales> you have to buy it to play it
#3924 [21:40] <agu10^_> yes i did
#3925 [21:40] <xales> No, you haven't
#3926 [21:40] <agu10^_> ?
#3927 [21:40] <xales> !paid Agu10
#3928 [21:40] <Kealper> is that the account that you bought it on?
#3929 [21:40] <agu10^_> Kealper, no, im playing offline mode
#3930 [21:40] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: IT LIIIIIIVES!!!!!!! ... now what?
#3931 [21:40] <agu10^_> any nick should work
#3932 [21:40] <VoxelHead> blimey
#3933 [21:41] <xales> agu10^_: You haven't bought the game, we will not provide you support
#3934 [21:41] <agu10^_> ?
#3935 [21:41] <xales> The user "Agu10" is not premium, meaning you did not buy the game
#3936 [21:41] <jakemb> i acedentally hit somthing and know i can see my whole body, how do i get back?
#3937 [21:41] <Kealper> agu10^_: uhh....any nick will not work, you have to pay for Minecraft...
#3938 [21:41] <agu10^_> xales, that's not my registered nick
#3939 [21:41] <Kealper> jakemb: F5
#3940 [21:41] <agu10^_> i won't tell you my registered nick
#3941 [21:41] <xales> agu10^_: Then why did you say it was?
#3942 [21:41] <agu10^_> lo;l
#3943 [21:41] <jakemb> k ill try it
#3944 [21:41] <agu10^_> xales, i didnt
#3945 [21:41] <agu10^_> you asked for the nick i was using
#3946 [21:41] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: click login, logo, hang, crash!!!
#3947 [21:41] <xales> 21:38:11 <@xales> agu10^_: What's your username?
#3948 [21:41] <xales> 21:38:34 < agu10^_> Agu10
#3949 [21:42] <xales> You have to login, not "play offline"
#3950 [21:42] <agu10^_> yes, im using that one
#3951 [21:42] <Kealper> agu10^_: you have to use your premium nick to play on multiplayer....
#3952 [21:42] <Kealper> and you can't be in offline mode
#3953 [21:42] <agu10^_> but im playing in a VPN
#3954 [21:42] <Kealper> or it won't work
#3955 [21:42] <jakemb> thxrked
#3956 [21:42] <agu10^_> why not?
#3957 [21:42] <Kealper> jwsmall89: ok, good....did it spit anything into the cmd window?
#3958 [21:42] <agu10^_> does it change?
#3959 [21:42] <Kealper> agu10^_: yes
#3960 [21:42] <xales> agu10^_: It doesn't matter. You have to use a premium account to play
#3961 [21:43] <xales> Why are you so against using one? ._.
#3962 [21:43] <Kealper> agu10^_: when you play offline your nick is "Player
#3963 [21:43] <Kealper> "*
#3964 [21:43] <agu10^_> not really
#3965 [21:43] <agu10^_> you can put any nick
#3966 [21:43] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: yes, do you want me to post it here?
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#3968 [21:43] <Phenex> Anyone around to help with Server problems?
#3969 [21:43] <xales> Phenex: What problem, specifically?
#3970 [21:43] <agu10^_> xales, I'm NOT using my registered username
#3971 [21:43] <agu10^_> what's the problem with that?
#3972 [21:44] <xales> agu10^_: You _MUST_ use it to play multiplayer
#3973 [21:44] <agu10^_> not if on offline mode
#3974 [21:44] <Kealper> agu10^_: you have to use your registered (paid-for) username to play on multiplayer, it's as simple as that :/
#3975 [21:44] <Phenex> A friend is trying to run a server, after running the exe as admin no server folder shows in the file
#3976 [21:44] <Kealper> agu10^_: it's disconnecting you because you are not using a paid account
#3977 [21:44] <xales> Phenex: Have your friend come on, then
#3978 [21:44] <Phenex> long story short, a friend was hosting and doens't want to anymore. We are trying to transfer the server to a new pc
#3979 [21:44] <xales> Ah
#3980 [21:44] <agu10^_> "[WARNING] The server will make no attempt to authenticate usernames. Beware.
#3981 [21:44] <agu10^_> "
#3982 [21:44] <Phenex> I am doing remote desktop
#3983 [21:44] <agu10^_> it says right there
#3984 [21:44] <Phenex> tanything you tell me I can do
#3985 [21:45] <xales> agu10^_: Unless you can prove you bought the game, we will not provide you support
#3986 [21:45] <agu10^_> it will NOT authenticate
#3987 [21:45] <agu10^_> that's not the issue
#3988 [21:45] <xales> As I have said
#3989 [21:45] <xales> agu10^_: Unless you can prove you bought the game, we will not provide you support
#3990 [21:45] <agu10^_> xales, oh i see what you're saying
#3991 [21:45] <xales> I am not going to repeat myself
#3992 [21:45] <agu10^_> you want me to prove i paid
#3993 [21:45] <Kealper> jwsmall89: sorry, yeah, throw the output of it on http://pastebin.com
#3994 [21:45] <agu10^_> to help me
#3995 [21:45] <agu10^_> lol
#3996 [21:45] <Phenex> Anything we can try her Xales?
#3997 [21:45] <Kealper> agu10^_: that's exactly the case
#3998 [21:46] <Phenex> here*
#3999 [21:46] <xales> Phenex: Make a new folder, put the server .EXE in the folder, run it
#4000 [21:46] <agu10^_> you think i didn't pay because I'm using another nick?
#4001 [21:46] <agu10^_> what happened to annonimity on the internet
#4002 [21:46] <Keltinray> Really
#4003 [21:46] <xales> agu10^_: It really doesn't matter, the fact is, unless you prove you have paid, we will not provide support
#4004 [21:46] <xales> If you had actually bought it, you wouldn't be going to these lengths
#4005 [21:46] <xales> Continue arguing and you will be removed from the channel
#4006 [21:47] <agu10^_> sorry, i didn't want to play with the same username all the time
#4007 [21:47] <agu10^_> there are pervs out ther
#4008 [21:47] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: http://pastebin.com/iAK82S54
#4009 [21:47] <Kealper> jwsmall89: AHA!
#4010 [21:47] <Kealper> jwsmall89: simple fix
#4011 [21:47] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: ???
#4012 [21:47] <xales> agu10^_: Bottom line, we will not provide support unless you prove you have paid for it
#4013 [21:48] <Kealper> jwsmall89: go into %appdata%\.minecraft\texturepacks and delete all the files in that folder
#4014 [21:48] <xales> This is your last warning. If you continue to discuss it, you will leave
#4015 [21:48] <Kealper> xales: channel rules page still up?
#4016 [21:48] <Kealper> i think more people need to read it
#4017 [21:48] <xales> Kealper: It's back up, yes
#4018 [21:49] <Kealper> http://faq.xales.info/rules.html <-- highly suggest people read that
#4019 [21:49] <Keltinray> Thankies, been trying to reach that a few times, but it seemed dead.
#4020 [21:50] <Kealper> those rules are like the channel's TOS, if you don't agree to them, you shouldn't be in here
#4021 [21:50] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: all i have to say is "Wow", all this for that!!!
#4022 [21:50] <Kealper> jwsmall89: fixed, i take it?
#4023 [21:50] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: correct
#4024 [21:50] <Kealper> \o/
#4025 [21:51] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: so, 1.5 doesn't do textpacks?
#4026 [21:51] <jwsmall89> *texture
#4027 [21:51] <Kealper> the texture pack you were using was a high-res one that required a mod
#4028 [21:52] <Kealper> if it wasn't used with that mod, the game would crash with a buffer overflow when it went to load the textures
#4029 [21:52] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: oic, lol forgot all about that whole patcher thing!
#4030 [21:54] <jwsmall89> @Kealper: next ?, what is with the window resize mouse icon doing within the window???
#4031 [21:54] <agu10^_> i thought "no drm" was no drm for support either
#4032 [21:55] <Kealper> uhh...what? lol
#4033 [21:55] * WaddleDee [WaddleDee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4034 [21:55] <jwsmall89> <->
#4035 [21:55] <WaddleDee> Excuse me, I need some help with Minecraft Classic.
#4036 [21:55] <Kealper> WaddleDee: what sort of help?
#4037 [21:56] <WaddleDee> When I try to join a multiplayer sever, it won't connect me.
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#4039 [21:56] <Kealper> WaddleDee: are you sure the server is joinable?
#4040 [21:56] * xales kicked agu10^_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I'm tired of your complaining. You obviously haven't paid for it. Get out.)
#4041 [21:56] <WaddleDee> I can click on it.
#4042 [21:56] <Kealper> can or can't?
#4043 [21:56] <WaddleDee> Can.
#4044 [21:56] <Kealper> oh, after clicking on it, what does it do?
#4045 [21:57] <Kav> Since 1.3 every time I log on to my, or any, SMP server I start by falling through the world. Once the world finally fills in I have horrible lag. Workbenches and chests take ~30seconds to open, blocks disappear, dug blocks reappear. In general it is completely unplayable. Single player is fine. Is this a known issue?
#4046 [21:57] <WaddleDee> It says MINECRAFT switching tablet, then the game disappears.
#4047 [21:58] <WaddleDee> Literally.
#4048 [21:58] <WaddleDee> I have a picture.
#4049 [21:58] <WaddleDee> :)
#4050 [21:58] <VoxelHead> -_-
#4051 [21:58] <Kealper> WaddleDee: upload it, if you could? lol
#4052 [21:58] <WaddleDee> Okay.
#4053 [21:58] * agu10^_ [agu10^_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4054 [21:58] <xales> Kav: http://speedtest.net/
#4055 [21:58] <VoxelHead> amsterdam
#4056 [21:58] <xales> Paste the speedtest reulst link
#4057 [21:58] <Kav> I am local to myserver, and I have 35/35 pipes
#4058 [21:58] <Kealper> Kav: hmm...also, have you tried other servers?
#4059 [21:58] <Kav> yes
#4060 [21:58] <VoxelHead> last night, yes
#4061 [21:58] <Kav> same issue
#4062 [21:59] <WaddleDee> http://miburl.com/y3DmOi
#4063 [21:59] <WaddleDee> Here.
#4064 [21:59] <xales> Kav: Try "smp.shadow-craft.net"
#4065 [21:59] <Kealper> see that little coffee cup icon in the bottom right?
#4066 [21:59] <Kealper> (to WaddleDee )
#4067 [22:00] <gPad2002> Java crash
#4068 [22:00] <Kav> I am falling through the world, no chunks loaded
#4069 [22:00] <WaddleDee> No.
#4070 [22:00] <Kav> ok there, I 'landed'
#4071 [22:00] <Phenex> Xales: Is the process for transferring a server as easy as I think it is?
#4072 [22:00] <Phenex> Install server on new pc, and replace new files with old world stff
#4073 [22:00] <Phenex> ??
#4074 [22:00] <Kealper> WaddleDee: hmm...has it ever worked for you?
#4075 [22:00] <WaddleDee> Nope.
#4076 [22:00] * XSilverFoxX [XSilverFoxX@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4077 [22:00] <Kav> wow, I type and it comes out like 20 seconds later
#4078 [22:00] <gPad2002> Phenex: Yes
#4079 [22:01] <XSilverFoxX> help
#4080 [22:01] <Kealper> Phenex: it is just as easy as copying the files over :o
#4081 [22:01] <Phenex> I thought so
#4082 [22:01] <Kealper> ??> XSilverFoxX ask
#4083 [22:01] <VoxelHead> XSilverFoxX: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4084 [22:01] <VoxelHead> XSilverFoxX: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4085 [22:01] <Phenex> we did that and stll can't connect to it
#4086 [22:01] <WaddleDee> It did once, but took me to a singleplayer game instead of a multiplayer.
#4087 [22:01] <Phenex> A friend says "we need to enable ports"
#4088 [22:01] <Phenex> correct?
#4089 [22:01] <XSilverFoxX> is it true that v1.5_02 is out and i cant get my minecraft to update
#4090 [22:01] <Kealper> Phenex: correct, if you need help on setting up port forwarding in your router, i could point you to a website that might help
#4091 [22:01] <Phenex> link? :)
#4092 [22:01] <XSilverFoxX> sry voxel i was making sure i could type
#4093 [22:02] <Kealper> XSilverFoxX: that is for the server only, the client is still version 1.5_01
#4094 [22:02] <Kav> punch a block, dissappear, wait, block reappears
#4095 [22:02] <Phenex> Kav: I had the same problem, it is likely internet lag
#4096 [22:02] <AkiTensai> Kealper: A number of times, I've used the ??> commands incorrectly. Is there a list of the bot's output so I can know what it will say before I trigger it?
#4097 [22:02] <XSilverFoxX> ok i have a friend that keeps timing out every 10 seconds or so how can i fix that?
#4098 [22:02] <Kav> I download things at 4 megs a second
#4099 [22:02] <Kealper> XSilverFoxX: the 1.5_01 server software had a serious bug so they quickly updated it, but 1.5_01 clients still connect
#4100 [22:02] <Kav> I get 5 ping on some game servers
#4101 [22:02] <Kealper> AkiTensai: ?? index
#4102 [22:02] <Kav> this is a local issue
#4103 [22:02] <Phenex> Poor connection to the server I mean
#4104 [22:02] <Kealper> Kav: are you using wireless or wired to your router?
#4105 [22:02] <Kav> wired
#4106 [22:02] <VoxelHead> Kealper: wireless
#4107 [22:03] <VoxelHead> Or you could just use a placebo
#4108 [22:03] <Kealper> no, it's probably his NIC
#4109 [22:03] <Kav> tried different cables
#4110 [22:03] <Kealper> vox, shut up
#4111 [22:03] <xales> ??> Kav win/reinst
#4112 [22:03] <Kav> you know the nic might make sense
#4113 [22:03] <VoxelHead> Kav: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4114 [22:03] <Kealper> you useless bot ._.
#4115 [22:03] * Phenex is waiting on link for port forwarding
#4115 [22:03] <VoxelHead> Kav: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4116 [22:03] <Kav> lol, I thought about that
#4117 [22:03] <VoxelHead> :(
#4118 [22:03] <Kav> I've done that, but why not again
#4119 [22:03] <xales> Phenex: http://portforward.com/
#4120 [22:04] <Kealper> Kav: anyways, if you have a different NIC anywhere (wireless adapter, some other wired adapter, etc) try using that and seeing if it fixes the issue
#4121 [22:04] <WaddleDee> Uh, not to be impolite, but I'm still needing help. What up with my game?
#4122 [22:04] <AkiTensai> >D Self hacking made easy.
#4123 [22:04] <XSilverFoxX> voxel i have a friend that cant stay connected is there anything i need to do to fix this problem?
#4124 [22:04] <Kav> I have an onboard, I forget why I stopped using it, I'll try that
#4125 [22:04] <Phenex> Xales : will it create a new spawn point?
#4126 [22:04] <xales> XSilverFoxX: VoxelHead is a bot
#4127 [22:04] <Kealper> WaddleDee: did the game ever run fine before? (sorry if you answered, i didn't see it)
#4128 [22:04] <xales> Phenex: Port forwarding? No
#4129 [22:04] <Phenex> The server runner is online and can't find our stuff
#4130 [22:05] <xales> Phenex: What do you mean, "can't find our stuff"?
#4131 [22:05] <XSilverFoxX> oh ok
#4132 [22:05] <WaddleDee> Only on Singleplayer, never on Multiplayer.
#4133 [22:05] <Phenex> the stuff we've built etc
#4134 [22:05] <xales> WaddleDee: Have you tried a different server?
#4135 [22:05] <Phenex> our "bases"
#4136 [22:05] <xales> Phenex: You have to copy the map over, into the correct folder
#4137 [22:05] <Kav> full delete and reinstall no effect, I'll try another nic
#4138 [22:05] <XSilverFoxX> xales do you have any idea how to fix this little problem i have?
#4139 [22:06] <WaddleDee> Seems to apply to every sever I try to join (so far).
#4140 [22:06] <Kealper> WaddleDee: hmm...try Minecraft again, and wait for it to crash, then quickly right click that white coffee cup icon inthe bottom right of your screen, then select Open Java Console
#4141 [22:06] <AkiTensai> Kealper: Thanks. I have more questions, but they can wait until game questions go idle.
#4142 [22:06] <WaddleDee> I'll try that.
#4143 [22:06] <gPad2002> Is this the sound of two people being overwhelmed by support requests?
#4144 [22:06] <Kealper> AkiTensai: might as well just ask, it's been constantly busy here for a while now
#4145 [22:07] <xales> XSilverFoxX: What exactly is the error your friend sees?
#4146 [22:07] * Kealper kicked gPad2002 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: i'm sick of you for now)
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#4148 [22:07] <gPad2002> Oh, well I was going to help
#4149 [22:07] * gPad2002 shrugs and goes back to idling
#4149 [22:07] <Kealper> gPad2002: snide comments do not help
#4150 [22:07] * Phenex gives gPad2002 a cookie
#4150 [22:07] <gPad2002> It was an honest question
#4151 [22:07] <XSilverFoxX> xales: he gets connection to server lost and java script times out
#4152 [22:08] <AkiTensai> Kealper: Its a good excuse for me to go to work ^.^
#4153 [22:08] <Kealper> AkiTensai: fair enough
#4154 [22:08] <Kealper> lol
#4155 [22:08] <xales> XSilverFoxX: "java script times out"?
#4156 [22:08] <XSilverFoxX> yes
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#4158 [22:08] <xales> Can you explain that?
#4159 [22:08] <Kealper> brb in a few
#4160 [22:08] <Kav_> different nic, same issue
#4161 [22:09] <XSilverFoxX> xales: what happen is he logs in to the server and falls endlessly then that happens
#4162 [22:09] <xales> Kav_: You said you only have the issue in Multiplayer, correct?
#4163 [22:09] <xales> XSilverFoxX: Is this a server you are running?
#4164 [22:09] <Kav_> correct, SP runs like butter
#4165 [22:09] <VoxelHead> Let me consult a fortune cookie.
#4166 [22:09] <XSilverFoxX> xales: yes
#4167 [22:09] <Kav_> correct, but I connect to other public servers and same issue
#4168 [22:09] <xales> Kav_: Make a new user account on your computer, see if it works under that account
#4169 [22:09] <WaddleDee> The little coffee cup disappers too quickly for me to click on a multiplayer sever, so is it okay if I do it on a singleplayer game?
#4170 [22:10] <gPad2002> vox, shut up
#4171 [22:10] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#4171 [22:10] <xales> XSilverFoxX: http://speedtest.net/ paste the result link
#4172 [22:10] <Kav_> you just blew my mind, trying
#4173 [22:10] <xales> WaddleDee: No, it would need to be multiplayer, sadly
#4174 [22:10] <WaddleDee> Darn.
#4175 [22:11] <XSilverFoxX> xales: ping is 27 ms download speed 20.30 Mbps upload speed 4.84 Mbps
#4176 [22:11] <WaddleDee> The console window closes as soon as the game goes out.
#4177 [22:11] <xales> XSilverFoxX: Do you happen to be running ZoneAlarm?
#4178 [22:12] <xales> WaddleDee: What browser are you using?
#4179 [22:12] <XSilverFoxX> xales: no i am not what is that?
#4180 [22:12] <Kealper> ok back
#4181 [22:12] <xales> XSilverFoxX: Nevermind then...
#4182 [22:12] <WaddleDee> Firefox.
#4183 [22:12] <Kealper> xales: Firefox
#4184 [22:12] <xales> XSilverFoxX: Are other people able to connect to your server?
#4185 [22:12] <XSilverFoxX> xales: yes me and another have the typical lags and such from the game being beta
#4186 [22:13] <XSilverFoxX> xales: then we brought him in and that happened
#4187 [22:13] <xales> XSilverFoxX: Err, lag isn't normal
#4188 [22:13] <Killmore> is it possible to know your ping on a server ??
#4189 [22:13] <xales> Killmore: No
#4190 [22:13] <XSilverFoxX> xales: it only lasts for about a half a second
#4191 [22:13] <xales> XSilverFoxX: Your computer probably can't hndle running a server, given what you've said so far
#4192 [22:13] <XSilverFoxX> xales: the data transfer
#4193 [22:14] * gPad2002 puts his support hat on
#4193 [22:14] <xales> ??> XSilverFoxX win/dxdiag
#4194 [22:14] <VoxelHead> XSilverFoxX: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4195 [22:14] <VoxelHead> XSilverFoxX: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4196 [22:14] <bread> I lost my support hat
#4197 [22:14] <XSilverFoxX> xales: i have done the speedtest and i am able to handle 7 ppl on a server and i will do that
#4198 [22:16] <Kealper> WaddleDee: hmm... try reinstalling Java from http://java.com
#4199 [22:16] <XSilverFoxX> xales: http://pastebin.com/096T1mSu
#4200 [22:16] <WaddleDee> It says I already have the recommended Java version downloaded.
#4201 [22:17] <gPad2002> WaddleDee: You should still be able to reinstall
#4202 [22:17] <gPad2002> If not, uninstall, install
#4203 [22:17] <Kealper> WaddleDee: uninstall it through Programs and Features in the Control Panel (or Add/Remove Programs if using XP)
#4204 [22:17] <WaddleDee> Okay.
#4205 [22:17] <xales> XSilverFoxX: Your computer isn't powerful enough to handle playing and running a server at the same time
#4206 [22:18] <WaddleDee> Wait, I just reinstalled it today.
#4207 [22:18] <XSilverFoxX> xales: ok thank you very much
#4208 [22:19] <Kealper> WaddleDee: oh? hmm...this is an issue then, as Classic does not have as many options available for debugging as Beta does....
#4209 [22:19] <Kealper> WaddleDee: try this...
#4210 [22:19] <Kealper> ??> WaddleDee win/profile
#4211 [22:19] <VoxelHead> WaddleDee: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4212 [22:19] <VoxelHead> WaddleDee: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#4214 [22:20] <WaddleDee> Okay.
#4215 [22:20] <jakejmcabc> hey guys, is this the place for MC help?
#4216 [22:20] <Kealper> indeed it is
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#4219 [22:20] <Loshee> hi
#4220 [22:20] <Kealper> hi
#4221 [22:20] <gPad2002> Hi, Loshee
#4222 [22:20] <jakejmcabc> would anyone here know anything about the lokette plugin?
#4223 [22:21] <gPad2002> jakejmcabc: You want #bukkit
#4224 [22:21] <jakejmcabc> k thnx
#4225 [22:21] <agu10^_> hi
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#4227 [22:23] <Phenex> xales: specifically, which folders do I move into the new server files?
#4228 [22:23] <Loshee> I had a fine working server, but after a computer crash I (and anyone else connecting) get the following error: Internal Exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read Timed Out"
#4229 [22:24] <xales> Phenex: The "world" folder
#4230 [22:24] <Loshee> Server appears to be starting fine
#4231 [22:24] <xales> Delete the existing one, and copy the old "world" folder into the new server folder
#4232 [22:24] <Loshee> though I can't use "help" or "stop"
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#4234 [22:24] <Loshee> Any ideas?
#4235 [22:24] <xales> Loshee - try copying the server executable to a new folder, and running it there
#4236 [22:25] <Loshee> Will do, attempting to close the first server now.
#4237 [22:25] <gPad2002> The EXE could also be corrupt; if what xales suggested doesn't help, then it might be worth redownloading it.
#4238 [22:25] <WaddleDee> Okay, I tried it, but it didn't work.
#4239 [22:26] <WaddleDee> So it's a computer problem.
#4240 [22:26] <gPad2002> Grab a new server executable?
#4241 [22:26] <Kealper> WaddleDee: seems to be :/
#4242 [22:26] <gPad2002> Oh right
#4243 [22:26] <gPad2002> Wrong person
#4244 [22:26] <xales> WaddleDee: Tried turning off your firewall?
#4245 [22:26] * gPad2002 facedesks
#4245 [22:26] <xales> (if you are running one)
#4246 [22:26] <WaddleDee> No.
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#4248 [22:27] * Kealper thought he already asked about that
#4248 [22:27] <Kealper> although, with the juggling of people earlier, i wouldn't be surprized if i forgot to ask :/
#4249 [22:27] <xales> WaddleDee: You could try making a new user account on your computer, and seeing if it works there
#4250 [22:27] <Kealper> xales: he just did to no avail
#4251 [22:27] <xales> ah
#4252 [22:27] <xales> ._.
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#4254 [22:29] <Kealper> WaddleDee: but yes, if i didn't ask before...you have no firewall or antivirus software running that could be killing it, do you?
#4255 [22:29] <WaddleDee> Well, before running, my computer said if it I trusted the application. I said yes.
#4256 [22:30] <Loshee> xales: took a little extra fenagling, but seems to be working now.
#4257 [22:30] <Loshee> Thanks!
#4258 [22:30] <xales> No problem
#4259 [22:32] <Kealper> WaddleDee: so you don't have any antivirus/firewall software?
#4260 [22:32] <agu10^_> i'm making a 64 bit CPU with redstone
#4261 [22:32] <Kealper> i really hate classic, it's so much harder to debug :/
#4262 [22:32] <WaddleDee> I have Kaspersky.
#4263 [22:32] <Kealper> WaddleDee: try disabling that for now and give it another go
#4264 [22:33] <WaddleDee> Okay...
#4265 [22:33] <agu10^_> anybody wanna help me build the 64 bit CPU with redstone???
#4266 [22:33] <Kealper> that is an internet suite i blelieve and it could be killing java.exe when it tries to connect to the server
#4267 [22:33] <Kealper> agu10^_: i'm not that good with redstone
#4268 [22:33] <agu10^_> hmm
#4269 [22:33] <agu10^_> how fast could it run?
#4270 [22:33] <Phenex> Xales: We have the world up now, server runner can join etc. We cannot
#4271 [22:33] <agu10^_> maybe we can make a PONG using the CPU
#4272 [22:34] <Kealper> not very
#4273 [22:34] <xales> Phenex: Did you port forward?
#4274 [22:34] <Phenex> Yes
#4275 [22:34] <agu10^_> it can move minecarts
#4276 [22:34] <agu10^_> to play pong
#4277 [22:34] <WaddleDee> Hold up, gotta do some light reading.
#4278 [22:34] <xales> Phenex: What IP are you trying to connect to, and what does it say?
#4279 [22:34] <Kealper> agu10^_: you could probably go get a cup of coffee waiting for it to do simple math
#4280 [22:34] <agu10^_> we should make a programming language for our redstone CPU
#4281 [22:34] <Phenex> Connection timed out:connect
#4282 [22:35] <Kealper> redstone CPUs in Minecraft are painfully slow
#4283 [22:35] <Phenex> server went to what is my ip
#4284 [22:35] <Phenex> and we are using that IP
#4285 [22:35] <agu10^_> Phenex, something's wrong with the servers
#4286 [22:35] <xales> Phenex: You didn't port forward correctly, or a firewall is blocking it
#4287 [22:35] <agu10^_> Phenex, look at your server window... does it say "took too long to log in" ?
#4288 [22:36] <Phenex> one second
#4289 [22:36] <WaddleDee> Nope.
#4290 [22:36] <WaddleDee> Didn't work.
#4291 [22:37] <WaddleDee> Darn.
#4292 [22:37] <Kealper> :/
#4293 [22:37] <Kealper> i'm out of ideas then
#4294 [22:37] <WaddleDee> Nevermind, I'll just buy the game eventually. :P
#4295 [22:38] <WaddleDee> thanks for helping out though.
#4296 [22:38] <agu10^_> WaddleDee, what's the issue?
#4297 [22:38] <WaddleDee> Really appreciated it.
#4298 [22:38] <Phenex> Xales: Server windows says nothing regarding outside IPs trying to join
#4299 [22:38] <WaddleDee> Can't run Minecraft Classic Multiplayer.
#4300 [22:39] <xales> 22:34:23 <@xales> Phenex: You didn't port forward correctly, or a firewall is blocking it
#4301 [22:39] <WaddleDee> Screen disappears after saying something about packets, I believe.
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#4303 [22:40] <agu10^_> Phenex, try hamachi
#4304 [22:40] <xales> No, that's a bad idea...
#4305 [22:40] <agu10^_> just to test it
#4306 [22:40] <xales> ??> agu10^_ fubar/hamachi
#4307 [22:40] <VoxelHead> agu10^_: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#4308 [22:40] <VoxelHead> agu10^_: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#4309 [22:40] <agu10^_> ... spamming for nothing?
#4310 [22:40] <bread> fubar/hamachi
#4311 [22:41] <agu10^_> omg, you crashed his client
#4312 [22:42] * buddyochoa [buddyochoa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4313 [22:42] <Kealper> yes, the two messages with two sec between them crashed his client ._.
#4314 [22:42] <agu10^_> 2 sec?
#4315 [22:42] <agu10^_> not really
#4316 [22:42] <VoxelHead> Not really... neally.
#4317 [22:43] <Kealper> 22:39:27 <@VoxelHead>
#4318 [22:43] <Kealper> 22:39:29 <@VoxelHead>
#4319 [22:43] <agu10^_> that's your client
#4320 [22:43] <Loshee> I guess there is something wrong with my world folder, as I try to import my old one and my problem repeats itself
#4321 [22:43] <agu10^_> what problem
#4322 [22:43] <Kealper> my client is sitting in a corperate datacenter with like a 20ms ping to the irc server :/
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#4324 [22:44] <Kealper> corporate*
#4325 [22:44] <xales> Loshee: Try opening it in MCEdit and resaving it
#4326 [22:44] <agu10^_> Kealper, then it's my lag
#4327 [22:44] <agu10^_> and probably his too
#4328 [22:44] <xales> beyond that, the world is corrupt
#4329 [22:44] <Loshee> MCEdit?
#4330 [22:44] <xales> Loshee: Yes, a map editor
#4331 [22:45] <Kealper> agu10^_: VoxelHead is programmed to wait two seconds between sends if the FAQ entry is more than one line
#4332 [22:45] <Phenex> Xales: does the server computer need to go to portforward.com?
#4333 [22:45] <agu10^_> the faq should contain all one-liners
#4334 [22:45] <xales> Phenex: You need to port forward on the server, following the instructions that portforward.com gives
#4335 [22:46] <Kealper> Phenex: it should be done on the server, yes...if you are unsure what you are doing
#4336 [22:46] <xales> agu10^_: No, it really shouldn't
#4337 [22:46] <agu10^_> :P
#4338 [22:46] <agu10^_> does minecraft use TCP or UDP ?
#4339 [22:46] <xales> TCP
#4340 [22:46] <Kealper> TCP
#4341 [22:46] <Kealper> bah
#4342 [22:46] <agu10^_> ok
#4343 [22:46] <Kealper> ninja'd
#4344 [22:46] <agu10^_> can you port forward using netcat ?
#4345 [22:46] <xales> In theory? Yes. Practically, no
#4346 [22:47] <agu10^_> why practically no?
#4347 [22:47] <xales> It would be extremely difficult
#4348 [22:47] <Wug> for the same reason you don't allocate files with dd
#4349 [22:47] <agu10^_> xD
#4350 [22:48] <agu10^_> nc -vvlp 80 -e nc.exe -vv localhost 255265
#4351 [22:48] <Kealper> 25565*
#4352 [22:48] <agu10^_> bypassiwhatever
#4353 [22:48] <agu10^_> whatever
#4354 [22:48] <Wug> everything goes fine until you make a typo, then you cause a derp of such epic proportions that the entire internet crashes because the primary dns nameservers format themselves for no reason or something
#4355 [22:48] <Kealper> 255265 is invalid :P
#4356 [22:49] <Phenex> which computer needs to go to portforward.com
#4357 [22:49] <Phenex> the serverr compouter correct?
#4358 [22:49] <agu10^_> that's how you bypass the only-port-80 firewall?
#4359 [22:49] <Kealper> Phenex: the one that will be serving
#4360 [22:50] <xales> Phenex: portforward.com only provides instructions, it doesn't do anything on it's own
#4361 [22:51] <Kealper> although, if you don't know what you're doing, i still recommend following the instructions on the machine you will be serving on
#4362 [22:53] <Loshee> is MCEdit supposed to be this resource intensive?
#4363 [22:53] <xales> Not any more than Minecraft iself
#4364 [22:53] <xales> itself*
#4365 [22:53] <Loshee> interesting, keeps locking up.
#4366 [22:54] * Kealper ....has never actually looked at resource usage for MCEdit
#4366 [22:54] <agu10^_> some tools are made in .net ?
#4367 [22:54] <Kealper> some are, but not MCEdit
#4368 [22:54] <agu10^_> how do they load the map? there's a .net api?
#4369 [22:54] <Kealper> MCEdit is done in Python
#4370 [22:54] <agu10^_> or java api
#4371 [22:54] <xales> There is no API
#4372 [22:54] <agu10^_> oh
#4373 [22:54] <agu10^_> manually parsing?
#4374 [22:54] <Kealper> all stuff like that must be hand-done
#4375 [22:54] <agu10^_> heh
#4376 [22:54] <Kealper> commando-style :o
#4377 [22:54] <VoxelHead> ;)
#4378 [22:55] <xales> agu10^_: http://mojang.com/2011/02/16/minecraft-save-file-format-in-beta-1-3/
#4379 [22:55] <agu10^_> i wonder why there are so many tools then :/ and no api
#4380 [22:55] <Loshee> xales: Same error, get the following when I start the server, but I still can't connect: [INFO] Preparing start region
#4381 [22:55] <Loshee> [INFO] Preparing spawn area: 40%
#4382 [22:55] <Loshee> [INFO] Done (3846151396ns)! For help, type "help" or "?"
#4383 [22:55] <Kealper> because the NBT file format is easy enough to parse
#4384 [22:55] <Kealper> and it's documented
#4385 [22:55] <Loshee> Server is completely hung after that line as well.
#4386 [22:56] <xales> Loshee: Map is messed up then, sadly
#4387 [22:56] <Kealper> Loshee: tried a fresh map?
#4388 [22:56] <agu10^_> ok
#4389 [22:56] <Loshee> Loads fine in MCEdit, odd, is there a 'save as' ha?
#4390 [22:56] <agu10^_> are there any plans to make minecraft more rounded?
#4391 [22:56] <Kealper> Loshee: ctrl+s
#4392 [22:56] <agu10^_> or HD textures? shader effects?
#4393 [22:56] <Kealper> agu10^_: not that i'm aware
#4394 [22:57] <Kealper> agu10^_: Mojang wants Minecraft to stay "blocky"
#4395 [22:57] <agu10^_> :@
#4396 [22:57] <Kealper> as do most of the community members
#4397 [22:57] <agu10^_> i'll branch it then
#4398 [22:57] <xales> Kealper: Unrelated - >> (22:56:08) (xales[+iw]) (22:Freenode/#archlinux[+Ccnt]) (1000 nicks (@0 %0 +0 1000))
#4399 [22:57] <Kealper> nice lol
#4400 [22:57] <VoxelHead> "wanna" show me what it can do?
#4401 [22:57] <Kealper> VoxelHead: you know it
#4402 [22:57] <xales> VoxelHead: I'm horny
#4403 [22:57] <xales> ...
#4404 [22:58] <Kealper> way to be blunt about that lol
#4405 [22:58] <xales> why do you not work when I want you to
#4406 [22:58] <xales> damn bot
#4407 [22:58] <xales> Kealper: It's supposed to say, "YOUR horny? Feel these nipples!" ._.
#4408 [22:58] <xales> VoxelHead: I'm a derphead
#4409 [22:58] <xales> VoxelHead: I'm a derphead
#4410 [22:58] <xales> VoxelHead: I'm a derphead
#4411 [22:58] <xales> ._.
#4412 [22:59] <Kealper> lol
#4413 [22:59] <xales> I'm a derphead
#4414 [22:59] <xales> I'm a derphead
#4415 [22:59] <Kealper> orly?
#4416 [22:59] <agu10^_> why r u trolling?
#4417 [22:59] <Kealper> xales: http://mod.ifies.com/f/110216/region.c
#4418 [22:59] * xales kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: I hate you)
#4419 [22:59] * VoxelHead [VoxelHead@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4420 [22:59] <agu10^_> so much
#4421 [22:59] <xales> Kealper: Seen it
#4422 [22:59] <Kealper> my mind = blown
#4423 [22:59] <xales> agu10^_: I'm not?
#4424 [22:59] <agu10^_> trolling the poor VoxelHead
#4425 [22:59] * Kealper copies that into CodeLite for some syntax highlighting
#4425 [23:00] <Kealper> vox deserves to be trolled >.>
#4426 [23:00] <VoxelHead> P to the E N G U I N S
#4427 [23:00] <Kealper> lol
#4428 [23:00] <xales> Kealper: Tried gvim?
#4429 [23:00] <Kealper> CodeLite works fine lol
#4430 [23:00] <xales> Kealper: http://www.vim.org/download.php#pc
#4431 [23:00] <xales> try it
#4432 [23:01] <xales> :)
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#4434 [23:01] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#4435 [23:01] <Phenex> Xales: We now get this error after port forwarding
#4436 [23:01] <Phenex> internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection Reset
#4437 [23:02] <Kealper> uhh
#4438 [23:02] <Kealper> is the server's internet cutting out completely when it says that?
#4439 [23:03] <xales> Phenex: Is there a firewall running on the server?
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#4441 [23:03] <Hellomojo> Hello
#4442 [23:04] <xales> Hi
#4443 [23:04] <Hellomojo> so i should emal notch?
#4444 [23:04] <Hellomojo> email*
#4445 [23:05] <Kealper> Hellomojo: about?
#4446 [23:05] <xales> Hellomojo: You can't change it, but you can try emailing support@mojang.com - don't expect anything
#4447 [23:05] <Hellomojo> to change my minecraft email
#4448 [23:05] <xales> Kealper: This was in #archlinux ._.
#4449 [23:05] <xales> 23:03:38 < johndarc> Just grab the minecraft.jar, run it as java -jar minecraft.jar; everything will be download into home/.minecraft
#4450 [23:06] <Kealper> Minecraft: spreading faster than the plague
#4451 [23:06] <xales> It's a bit absurd
#4452 [23:06] <xales> At school, it's even spreading to the non-nerd people
#4453 [23:06] <Kealper> Hellomojo: i'm not sure you can, but you can send and email to support@mojang.com to ask about it
#4454 [23:06] <Kealper> xales: indeed
#4455 [23:07] <Loshee> xales: Think I can copy and paste a few structures from the corrupt map into a new map?
#4456 [23:07] <xales> and by "non-nerd" I mean...really, the people who don't touch the computer for anything but Facebook and porn
#4457 [23:07] <Kealper> a friend of mine said there were even people playing minecraft in his college computers class
#4458 [23:07] <xales> Loshee: Possibly
#4459 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> You can, with the schematic feature of MCedit
#4460 [23:09] <xales> Kealper: I sort of work with my high school as a consultant on occasion, because their IT person has not much idea what they are doing, and they can't really afford computers anyway (small private school) ._.
#4461 [23:09] <xales> Half the staff are alums, too. I guess I'm somewhat included in that D:
#4462 [23:09] <xales> Anyway, occasionally I have to drive out there
#4463 [23:09] <Kealper> lol
#4464 [23:09] <xales> Last time I was there (about a month ago), I saw a group of people around a kid with a Macbook
#4465 [23:09] <xales> playing Minecraft
#4466 [23:09] <xales> at 10fps
#4467 [23:09] <xales> ._.
#4468 [23:09] <Kealper> man, doing IT stuff for my high school would be a nightmare
#4469 [23:09] <xales> during class
#4470 [23:09] <Kealper> XD
#4471 [23:09] <xales> yeah, it is
#4472 [23:10] <xales> but, they pay me...so...worth it I support
#4473 [23:10] <xales> suppose*
#4474 [23:10] <Phenex> Xales: He disabled his firewall and we can't connect to it
#4475 [23:10] <Kealper> stupid place has like 2000 students, craptons of old Dell Optiplex GX260s (iirc), all hooked up on 10mbit hubs
#4476 [23:10] <xales> fun fact: there are 120 students+faculty
#4477 [23:10] <Kealper> 10mbit hubs...
#4478 [23:11] <xales> the internet is some Verizon T3 line or something
#4479 [23:11] <xales> which could handle all that traffic fine
#4480 [23:11] <Kealper> with a full-duplex gigabit connection....
#4481 [23:11] <Wug> lol keapler people playing minecraft in a college computer class? NEVER
#4482 [23:11] * Kealper silently nerdraged at that for all 4 years
#4482 [23:11] <Wug> (I do that sometimes)
#4483 [23:11] <xales> EXCEPT that it goes to a stupid hardware firewall appliance designed for 25 users (hardware limited), up to the top floor, back to the basement, to a switch
#4484 [23:11] <Kealper> Wug: ikr?
#4485 [23:11] <xales> on one 100mbit Ethernet cable
#4486 [23:11] <Killmore> first time tonight I play on multiplayer with minecraft and my games keep crashing with a black screen :( I tried to delete everything and re-download the game
#4487 [23:12] <Kealper> xales: lol
#4488 [23:12] <xales> protip: Ethernet signal degrades after 100 feet
#4489 [23:12] <Phenex> Xales?
#4490 [23:12] <xales> Phenex: Yes?
#4491 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> wasn't it 100 yards?
#4492 [23:12] <Phenex> <Phenex>: Xales: He disabled his firewall and we can't connect to it
#4493 [23:12] <xales> GreyVulpine: I think it was 100 feet...not sure
#4494 [23:12] <Dark_Fox> Well
#4495 [23:12] <xales> anyway, it's long enough that the signal degrades and people get huge packet loss
#4496 [23:12] <Dark_Fox> My wireless router is hooked up to a 100ft cable
#4497 [23:12] <xales> but the school can't afford to fix it
#4498 [23:12] <xales> ._.
#4499 [23:12] <Dark_Fox> And it runs just fine
#4500 [23:12] <VoxelHead> routerless wire
#4501 [23:12] <Kealper> i heard 100 feet too, but that might be for like pushing 1gbit though a cat-5e
#4502 [23:13] <xales> Dark_Fox: It starts to drgrade after 100 feet, not at, I think
#4503 [23:13] <Wug> who cares
#4504 [23:13] <xales> Killmore: Does it black screen in single player as well?
#4505 [23:13] <Wug> get fiber in your house
#4506 [23:13] <Phenex> Xales: Nevermind, somehow everything is fixed now and we are connected
#4507 [23:13] <AkiTensai> Google search suggest 100m
#4508 [23:13] <Dark_Fox> xales: According to wikipedia, it's 100 metres
#4509 [23:13] <Killmore> xales: never have this problem before
#4510 [23:13] <Dark_Fox> Which is about 300 ft
#4511 [23:13] <xales> Derp
#4512 [23:13] <xales> Well, whatever
#4513 [23:13] * Wug is running 2 simultaneous mc servers
#4513 [23:13] <xales> Killmore: Is it only in multiplayer?
#4514 [23:14] <Dark_Fox> Just for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_5#Maximum_cable_segment_length
#4515 [23:14] <Killmore> xales: yes
#4516 [23:14] <Wug> and is thinkong of adding a classic one too
#4517 [23:14] <xales> Wug: I could run 10 on my desktop :3
#4518 [23:14] <Wug> I probably could run 10
#4519 [23:14] <Wug> with like 3 ppl each lol
#4520 [23:14] <Wug> except hdd would thrash itself to death
#4521 [23:14] <xales> lol
#4522 [23:14] <Kealper> lol
#4523 [23:15] * Wug 's hdd violently ejects from front of case
#4523 [23:15] * VoxelHead 's Wug
#4523 [23:15] * Wug 's voxelhead
#4523 [23:15] <VoxelHead> unf
#4524 [23:15] <Wug> booyah.
#4525 [23:15] <Wug> Vox is now pregnant
#4526 [23:15] <Kealper> oh my
#4527 [23:15] <Wug> with a little Wugoid
#4528 [23:16] * xales 's Wug
#4528 [23:16] * xales Wugs VoxelHead
#4528 [23:16] <VoxelHead> I do love a good Wugsing.
#4529 [23:16] <xales> lol
#4530 [23:16] * Wug .... nvm wut?
#4530 [23:16] <Kealper> bMotion....is the best thing ever lol
#4531 [23:16] * Wug pokes everyone in the channel
#4531 [23:16] * Kealper rawrs
#4531 [23:17] * xales Kealpers VoxelHead
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#4532 [23:17] * VoxelHead kealpers xales
#4532 [23:17] * Wug hurls xales at keapler with voxelhead
#4532 [23:17] * VoxelHead hurls Wug back with a case
#4532 [23:17] * Wug deflects it with his face
#4532 [23:17] <Killmore> xales: do you have any idea ?! :(
#4533 [23:17] <Wug> the wugling hatches inside vox and takes control of his robot brain
#4534 [23:18] <Killmore> it just happen again
#4535 [23:18] <xales> Killmore: You never answered my question
#4536 [23:18] <xales> is it only multiplayer?
#4537 [23:18] <Killmore> yes, never happen in single
#4538 [23:18] <Wug> is it just the one server
#4539 [23:18] <xales> Have you tried single player since it has started black screening?
#4540 [23:19] <VoxelHead> If i tell you, i will have to kill you.
#4541 [23:19] <Wug> also is the server something unofficial like bukkit
#4542 [23:19] <Wug> bukkit is the root of all smp issues not directly related to port forwarding
#4543 [23:20] * Kealper thinks he wants to mess around in C for right now
#4543 [23:20] <Kealper> to the googles!
#4544 [23:20] * Kealper finds random C tutorial page with basic stuff
#4544 [23:21] * Wug[zzzz] is sleepy
#4544 [23:21] * Kealper waves _o/
#4544 [23:21] <Dark_Fox> Kealper: How much programming experience do you have?
#4545 [23:21] <Kealper> in C? hardly
#4546 [23:21] <Kealper> in other languages, quite
#4547 [23:22] <Dark_Fox> In general, I mean.. Like what languages?
#4548 [23:22] <Kealper> mostly....interpreted languages ._.
#4549 [23:22] <Dark_Fox> Such as...?
#4550 [23:22] <Kealper> AutoIt is the one i know best, although it's practically just all WinAPI wrappers, it's still interpreted so it's still slow
#4551 [23:23] <Dark_Fox> Have you worked with C# before?
#4552 [23:23] <VoxelHead> Eh?
#4553 [23:23] <Kealper> i haven't
#4554 [23:23] <Kealper> i was thinking about it a while back though :/
#4555 [23:23] <xales> Kealper, I have a challenge for you
#4556 [23:23] <Kealper> xales: i won't be able to complete it, but go on lol
#4557 [23:23] <xales> Do some natural language processing in AutoIt :)
#4558 [23:23] <Dark_Fox> Personally I'd recommend playing around with .NET first
#4559 [23:24] <Kealper> oh god no lol
#4560 [23:24] <Kealper> ehh.... .NET is like....faster than interpreted stuff, but still not the sort of low-level that i want to play around in :/
#4561 [23:25] <Dark_Fox> Right, but it has less of a steep learning curve. And once you know a couple languages, you know them all
#4562 [23:25] <xales> Low level languages are really the ones to learn first, IMO
#4563 [23:25] <xales> If you can understand lower level stuff like pointers/memory management, high level stuff becomes very easy
#4564 [23:26] <xales> Also, Kealper, my new project :> https://github.com/lahwran/mcpkg
#4565 [23:26] <Dark_Fox> Eh, I've just seen way too many people try and mess with low level stuff, get stuck on how difficult it is and pick up bad programming practices or quite in the middle of learning it
#4566 [23:26] <xales> I'm steering Kealper away from that :D
#4567 [23:26] <agu10^_> low level languages are easy
#4568 [23:26] <agu10^_> no abstraction
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#4570 [23:27] <Dark_Fox> The higher level stuff, like .NET allows people to learn the basics of a programming language while keeping the learning curve down
#4571 [23:27] <Kealper> meh, i know bad programming practices, and how to not do them (for the most part) and i know the concepts of programming already, so C would be easy to take up...i just have to find the tim efor it lol
#4572 [23:27] <agu10^_> yeah, Dark_Fox, C# is great
#4573 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Go find a college course online, steal their programming assignments
#4574 [23:27] <agu10^_> heh
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#4576 [23:28] <VoxelHead> :-)
#4577 [23:28] <xales> GreyVulpine: I just linked him one in #mcbots :o
#4578 [23:28] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: i did :>
#4579 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> http://www.cse.msu.edu/~cse232/Labs/
#4580 [23:28] * GreyVulpine points
#4580 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, they're still on C++ in 232.
#4581 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> weird, when I left, they moved onto python with 231..
#4582 [23:29] <agu10^_> ?
#4583 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> But they're still on C++ in 232.
#4584 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Way back when I took courses at MSU, 231 and 232 were the intro to programming courses, with c++
#4585 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> When I left, 231 was moved to python
#4586 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> I expected them to gradually make 232 python as well, it isn't.
#4587 [23:30] <Kealper> lol
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#4591 [23:36] <Wug[zzzz]> c++ is good for you
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