#MinecraftHelp > 2011-04-26
#1 [00:03] <agu10^_> Wug[zzzz], c++ sucks
#2 [00:04] <agu10^_> why would you use legacy stuff nowadays?
#3 [00:04] <xales> ...
#4 [00:04] <xales> That doesn't make any sense, at all
#5 [00:04] <xales> derp
#6 [00:04] <relsqui> fucking kids
#7 [00:04] <xales> ^
#8 [00:04] <agu10^_> xales, you're not a coder i guess
#9 [00:05] <xales> I'm only a paid developer
#10 [00:05] <xales> so I suppose my opinion doesn't count, as I have no idea what I am talking about
#11 [00:06] <agu10^_> it depends
#12 [00:06] <agu10^_> if you couldn't make sense of that simple sentence...
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#17 [00:24] <N> [13:00:08] <@VoxelHead> P to the E N G U I N S
#18 [00:24] <N> ._.
#19 [00:27] <aetherian> that vox is a philosopher he is.
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#21 [00:48] <NotiCon> agu10^_: why does c++ sux?
#22 [00:48] <xales> NotiCon: Because he can't understand it
#23 [00:48] <xales> <.<
#24 [00:48] <NotiCon> xales: oic
#25 [00:49] <aetherian> xales: I guess he likes python...?
#26 [00:49] <agu10^_> compared to new languages
#27 [00:49] <agu10^_> it's shit
#28 [00:49] <xales> You really have no idea how it works, do you, agu10^_?
#29 [00:49] <xales> ._.
#30 [00:49] <agu10^_> i do
#31 [00:49] <xales> Clearly not
#32 [00:49] <agu10^_> lol
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#34 [00:49] <aetherian> agu10^_: you prefer ASM
#35 [00:49] <aetherian> maybe FORTRAN?
#36 [00:50] <agu10^_> since those are new languages...
#37 [00:50] <NotiCon> define new languages then
#38 [00:50] <aetherian> you know, like VB
#39 [00:50] <MonkeyKang> Sooo, I dunno if I'm the right place. But I'm having a little trouble and need some general guidance.
#40 [00:50] <xales> "new" = "easy"
#41 [00:50] <aetherian> :}
#42 [00:50] <xales> MonkeyKang: What's the problem?
#43 [00:50] <agu10^_> C# is the one i like
#44 [00:51] <MonkeyKang> Well, I'm trying to get the Piston 1.5 mod to work on a SMP server being run by MCMyAdmin.
#45 [00:51] <xales> agu10^_: Honestly, how old are you? ._.
#46 [00:51] <agu10^_> why
#47 [00:51] <xales> MonkeyKang: You might try #mcmyadmin
#48 [00:51] <agu10^_> you're honestly asking?
#49 [00:51] <agu10^_> heh
#50 [00:51] <xales> agu10^_: How about, >18 or <18?
#51 [00:51] <VoxelHead> ;)
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#53 [00:51] <MonkeyKang> Alrighty. Though, I think it won't run regardless of MCMyAdmin.
#54 [00:52] <Mloeven> does anyone know if there is a way to disable all particles in minecraft
#55 [00:52] <MonkeyKang> Just responds with a 'corrupt jar file' error.
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#57 [00:52] <agu10^_> xales, you perv
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#59 [00:52] <xales> Mloeven: I don't think there is, possibly with a mod
#60 [00:52] <xales> agu10^_: That's all the answer I need
#61 [00:52] <NotiCon> C# is like having another person holding your hands while coding, and if you do anything bad you get slapped hard but then you get help to fix it afterwards D:
#62 [00:52] <xales> ._.
#63 [00:52] <agu10^_> NotiCon, lolwut
#64 [00:52] <agu10^_> not really
#65 [00:53] <NotiCon> you dont have to clear up for yourself
#66 [00:53] <xales> NotiCon: And then having code that you can't use for anything, as it's not portible, extremely easy to decompile, and slow
#67 [00:53] <agu10^_> it's just a c++ fix
#68 [00:53] <xales> It's really not
#69 [00:53] <deathsbuddy> right, so what's the deal with the online version of minecraft? i can't launch it on any browser i have.
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#71 [00:53] <xales> And if you don't understand that, you obviously haven't even finished high school
#72 [00:53] <agu10^_> NotiCon, sure, because programming is idealy without any tool
#73 [00:53] <Mloeven> i cant belive particle settings are hard coded
#74 [00:53] <xales> deathsbuddy: Why can't you?
#75 [00:53] <agu10^_> programming tools are only for old coders
#76 [00:53] <Mloeven> that would be assinine
#77 [00:53] <deathsbuddy> it crashes any browser that isn't google chrome
#78 [00:53] <deathsbuddy> and on chrome it just doesn't appear.
#79 [00:54] <xales> deathsbuddy: Do you have Java installed?
#80 [00:54] <NotiCon> agu10^_: so you dont have any programming tools to program in?
#81 [00:54] <agu10^_> now it's all just blindly typing into notepad
#82 [00:54] <deathsbuddy> and fully updated to all its mac capacity.
#83 [00:54] <aetherian> lmao notepad
#84 [00:54] * xales kicked agu10^_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: You are either stupid, or trolling. This really isn't okay here)
#85 [00:54] <Mloeven> notepad++
#86 [00:54] <NotiCon> great sucess \o/
#87 [00:54] <NotiCon> oh right success
#88 [00:54] <Mloeven> who was banned
#89 [00:55] <xales> agu10^_
#90 [00:55] <deathsbuddy> xales: yes i have java installed, the mac version anyway.
#91 [00:55] <xales> deathsbuddy: What version of OSX?
#92 [00:55] <Mloeven> lool
#93 [00:55] <deathsbuddy> 10.5 leopard
#94 [00:55] <Mloeven> pray you dont have tiger or your screwed
#95 [00:55] <Mloeven> i cant find anything tht works
#96 [00:56] <xales> deathsbuddy: Make a new user account, see if you can play it under that
#97 [00:56] <xales> Mloeven: Why do you want to disable particles, anyway?
#98 [00:56] <VoxelHead> Can i phone a friend?
#99 [00:56] <deathsbuddy> is making alt accounts not discouraged?
#100 [00:56] <xales> deathsbuddy: A computer user account, not Minecraft account
#101 [00:56] <Mloeven> game locks up and goes to about 1 fram 5 seconds
#102 [00:56] <Mloeven> really old ibookg5
#103 [00:56] <deathsbuddy> oh. alright.
#104 [00:56] <xales> Mloeven: Disabling particles won't fix that
#105 [00:56] <Mloeven> g4
#106 [00:56] <deathsbuddy> will try that, thanks!
#107 [00:57] <Mloeven> game runs fine when there arent aloit of torches
#108 [00:57] <xales> That would be a lighting issue, not a particle issue
#109 [00:57] <Mloeven> can you set lighting to one level globally ??
#110 [00:57] <Mloeven> it would ruin ambiance but make the game run
#111 [00:58] <Mloeven> i really have gone past caring about looks and game play i just want it to run smoothly so i can update my map when not at home
#112 [00:58] <Mloeven> the laptop is not really my main comp but it is portable
#113 [00:59] <Mloeven> i might be able to get some improvement if i can find a way to point minecraft at soylatte rather than the default java instalation + mods would work than
#114 [01:00] <Mloeven> provided soylatte can even run normal java apps and isn;t just a dev utility
#115 [01:00] <Mloeven> curse you apple i mean microsoft is still updating xp and here i am stranded and unable to upgerade
#116 [01:02] <Mloeven> i dont really understand why minecraft is so slow anyway i mean this machine can play ut04 decently and minecraft doesent have nearly the complex meshes and textures
#117 [01:02] <xales> Minecraft's problem is vertices
#118 [01:02] <The_Observer> it is rendering more than most games
#119 [01:03] <Mloeven> ah so it may not be complex shapes but it is just a larger area
#120 [01:03] <Mloeven> but than wouldn;t caves be faster than on the surface
#121 [01:03] <Mloeven> much smaller field of view
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#123 [01:04] <The_Observer> Mloeven, its loading every block in the chunk you are in
#124 [01:04] <The_Observer> visible or not
#125 [01:04] <The_Observer> or so i understand it
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#127 [01:05] <Mloeven> that seems .... wastefull
#128 [01:05] <Mloeven> what about the view distance
#129 [01:05] <Mloeven> that does nothing ??
#130 [01:05] <The_Observer> thats just how it works
#131 [01:06] <xales> Mloeven: RAM is probably a bigger issue than graphics processing
#132 [01:06] <Mloeven> i have a gig
#133 [01:06] <Mloeven> thats alot for this machine
#134 [01:06] <The_Observer> that makes it draw less of an area, its still loading everything you just can not see it. which helps
#135 [01:07] <MonkeyKang> Bleh - does anyone know if it's possible to run mods on SMP?
#136 [01:07] <The_Observer> MonkeyKang, it is
#137 [01:07] <Mloeven> wish there were more settings tho
#138 [01:07] <The_Observer> ?
#139 [01:07] <The_Observer> oh
#140 [01:08] <MonkeyKang> Observer: Is there a good tutorial for it? I'm running my server on Linux - but every time I try to mod the JAR, it just says it's corrupt and fails.
#141 [01:08] <The_Observer> yea there was recently a new one added
#142 [01:08] <Mloeven> to be honest software rendering would make this game fly most likley
#143 [01:08] <The_Observer> MonkeyKang, try going to #bukkit
#144 [01:08] <MonkeyKang> Alrighty, thanks~
#145 [01:10] <Mloeven> interesting advanced opengl speeds things up ????
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#147 [01:10] <The_Observer> apparently
#148 [01:10] <The_Observer> i dunno shit about it though
#149 [01:11] <The_Observer> oh while I am here how does one make a button reset a switch
#150 [01:11] <Mloeven> this is sad but i think i might get better performance playing this over VNC
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#154 [01:38] <VoxelHead> I like them =D.
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#156 [01:45] * xales prods dopeghoti
#156 [01:45] * aetherian takes some ice cube, and sticks them down dopeghoti's shirt
#156 [01:46] * xales cattleprods aetherian
#156 [01:46] <aetherian> :(
#157 [01:46] * VoxelHead befriends aetherian
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#158 [01:46] <aetherian> AWW
#159 [01:46] <xales> aetherian: are you here to fumigate the moose testicle?
#160 [01:46] * aetherian hugs vox
#160 [01:46] <Spencilla> Hello..
#161 [01:46] <xales> Hello
#162 [01:46] <VoxelHead> ~oof~
#163 [01:46] <aetherian> to what, xales?
#164 [01:47] <xales> aetherian: I was quoting VoxelHead
#165 [01:47] <Spencilla> You guys legit helpful :3?
#166 [01:47] <xales> Spencilla: Indeed, ignore the idle chatter <.<
#167 [01:47] <aetherian> Spencilla: half the time
#168 [01:47] <Spencilla> mk well i was looking around the youtube and couldnt find a good tutorial on how to make a classic server on mac
#169 [01:47] <Spencilla> should i make one?
#170 [01:48] <aetherian> should you?
#171 [01:48] <xales> Youtube tutorials are...bad
#172 [01:48] <aetherian> so true
#173 [01:48] <Spencilla> not many people care about classic anymore but idk could be helpful for the community
#174 [01:48] <xales> Anyway, you should only make one if you actually want to play Classic with your friends
#175 [01:48] <Spencilla> cause alot of people can't follow basic text instructions
#176 [01:49] <xales> If you want to make a server for the general public...running ot off a home computer on a residential connection is a bad idea
#177 [01:49] <Spencilla> mac fag here :3
#178 [01:49] <SlashLife^m> s/text//
#179 [01:49] <Spencilla> and macs just complicate everything....
#180 [01:49] <aetherian> ha!
#181 [01:50] <Spencilla> i love my mac but sometimes its not worth having... cause there not compatible with alot of stuff
#182 [01:50] <aetherian> hehe
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#184 [01:50] <sproing> asdfghjk
#185 [01:50] <Spencilla> i could get a desktop half the price and the desktop would prob still be better..
#186 [01:51] <xales> Or you could build one for a quarter of the price and it would be better still
#187 [01:51] <xales> sproing: What?
#188 [01:51] <Spencilla> think building one would be cheaper?
#189 [01:51] <xales> It's a fact that it would be
#190 [01:51] <Spencilla> oooh
#191 [01:52] <Spencilla> neat
#192 [01:52] <Spencilla> how much is a good built desktop?
#193 [01:52] <xales> Depends on how "good"
#194 [01:52] <Spencilla> well "to be built"
#195 [01:52] <Spencilla> idk
#196 [01:52] <NotiCon> define good built
#197 [01:52] <Spencilla> good for gaming but not over-kill
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#199 [01:52] <xales> Probably around $900-$1200
#200 [01:52] <Spencilla> like nothing your paying for that you wouldnt nead
#201 [01:52] <Spencilla> **need
#202 [01:52] <xales> Compared to say, $3000, from Dell
#203 [01:52] <Spencilla> troo
#204 [01:52] <sproing> So where's the "help" section of this thing?
#205 [01:53] <Spencilla> we are the help
#206 [01:53] <sproing> Oh kinda makes sense
#207 [01:53] <Spencilla> :3
#208 [01:53] <Spencilla> you help me i help you we help eachother
#209 [01:53] <Spencilla> still peeved canary mod hasn't come out with its new patch :/
#210 [01:53] <Spencilla> tho i cant blame em cause stuff like that takes time
#211 [01:53] <sproing> Yes, so uhmmm, yeah I downloaded the HQ patcher thing for some odd reason MC won't work anymore, I even tried uninstalling everything and removing the patcher from my desktop and still no worky D:
#212 [01:54] <xales> ??> sproing win/reinst
#213 [01:54] <VoxelHead> sproing: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#214 [01:54] <VoxelHead> sproing: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#215 [01:54] <Spencilla> god show old boy
#216 [01:54] <Spencilla> ***good
#217 [01:55] <Spencilla> is HQ patcher a mod or mod loader?
#218 [01:55] <Spencilla> or hwat
#219 [01:55] <Spencilla> never heard of it
#220 [01:55] <Spencilla> lol
#221 [01:55] <xales> It's a mod
#222 [01:55] <Spencilla> than yep good chance you just effed up the .jar and now it wont run cause of that?
#223 [01:57] <Spencilla> only reason i wanna make a tut for making a classic server i enjoy making videos but sometimes i don't wanna spam vids out XD
#224 [01:59] <xales> Spencilla: Oh...I didn't understand your question ._.
#225 [01:59] <xales> I thought you wanted to make a server, not a tutorial video
#226 [02:01] <Spencilla> nu
#227 [02:01] <Spencilla> i was wondering if me making a tutorial would be a good idea...
#228 [02:01] <Spencilla> for those who own macs
#229 [02:01] <Spencilla> and enjoy classic?
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#231 [02:01] <Spencilla> i like it once and while reason i figured out how to do it :3
#232 [02:02] <xales> Running any kind of server on a workstation computer, especially on a residential connection, is a Bad Idea(TM)
#233 [02:02] <xales> It's up to you if you want to do it, but I don't think many people would end up using it
#234 [02:02] <Spencilla> narp
#235 [02:02] <Spencilla> i dont expect people to join
#236 [02:02] <Spencilla> on occation tho i mean i boot it up
#237 [02:02] <Spencilla> to play with accouple buddys
#238 [02:03] <aetherian> xales: AGAIN!
#239 [02:03] <aetherian> you did it again D:
#240 [02:05] <sproing> I love you guys, thanks it works now
#241 [02:06] <aetherian> I love you too
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#243 [02:10] <Spencilla> i will also put some love in there
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#246 [02:16] <aetherian> \o/
#247 [02:16] <Kealper> yeah, minecraft fucked over my server's NIC driver
#248 [02:16] <Kealper> it's fine if it's just minecraft but the second i try doing other stuff while people are on my server it explodes
#249 [02:17] <Kealper> they really need to fix that horrid netcode that is causing that :/
#250 [02:19] * Kealper now understands pointers and how they work
#250 [02:20] <xales> Kealper: orly
#251 [02:20] <Kealper> although
#252 [02:20] <Kealper> i'm not sure what use they are as of right now
#253 [02:21] <xales> :|
#254 [02:21] <xales> then you don't really get them I think
#255 [02:21] <xales> they are incredibly useful
#256 [02:21] <xales> lol
#257 [02:21] <Kealper> like...say i is the number 42, and i have pi which is a pointer to i....what benifit is using *pi over i?
#258 [02:21] <xales> it's hard to _not_ use them
#259 [02:21] <xales> "strings" are pointers
#260 [02:21] <xales> to an array of characters
#261 [02:21] <Kealper> ahh...hmm
#262 [02:21] <xales> arrays themselves are pointers, too
#263 [02:21] <Kealper> i can see how that would make them useful lol
#264 [02:21] <xales> you can't use arrays without using pointers. at all
#265 [02:22] <xales> or strings, really
#266 [02:23] * Kealper just realized that C/++ compilers are normally made from C/++
#266 [02:23] <VoxelHead> Bye Herrman.
#267 [02:23] <Kealper> inception >.>
#268 [02:24] <aetherian> perl is self compiled I think...?
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#270 [02:24] <Kealper> perl isn't a compiled language, it's interpreted
#271 [02:24] <Spencilla> Mreow
#272 [02:24] <Spencilla> Anyone play Call of duty?
#273 [02:24] <VoxelHead> dootie :o)
#274 [02:24] <Kealper> and perl's interpreter is most likely C++, most are
#275 [02:25] <Vector> Even the C compiler is written in C++
#276 [02:25] <Vector> </joke>
#277 [02:25] <Vector> XD
#278 [02:25] * Kealper demands an ASM compiler written in BASIC
#278 [02:25] <Vector> o.0
#279 [02:25] <Vector> 0.o
#280 [02:25] <Vector> 0.0
#281 [02:25] <Vector> LOL
#282 [02:25] <aetherian> xD
#283 [02:25] <Kealper> slow compile would be slow
#284 [02:25] <Vector> hahaha
#285 [02:25] <VoxelHead> inferior human organs!
#286 [02:26] <Kealper> :<
#287 [02:26] <Spencilla> well
#288 [02:26] <Spencilla> ima peace it
#289 [02:26] <Spencilla> Peace..
#290 [02:26] <Spencilla> it
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#292 [02:27] <Kealper> anywho
#293 [02:27] <Kealper> back to learning C i go
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#307 [03:00] <Tetyys> Hello
#308 [03:00] <xales> Hi
#309 [03:01] <Tetyys> Anybody got any problems?
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#311 [03:01] <aetherian> yes
#312 [03:02] <Tetyys> Whats your problem?
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#314 [03:02] <aetherian> jeez man
#315 [03:02] <aetherian> I never said I had problems
#316 [03:03] <Tetyys> I said "anybody got any problems?" and you said "yes"
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#318 [03:05] <Ramireus> hello?
#319 [03:05] <Tetyys> What?
#320 [03:05] <Ramireus> fine here I can write:)
#321 [03:05] <Tetyys> Um...
#322 [03:06] <Tetyys> Wat do?
#323 [03:07] <Ramireus> I have a problem-I probably downloaded only part of update and game is not starting. I went aout of home and I am behind proxy right now. I would like to as what is IP adress of update server, so I can create "tunel".
#324 [03:07] <Tetyys> Nufn do.
#325 [03:07] <Tetyys> Oh
#326 [03:08] <xales> Ramireus: There are several hunder IPs, it uses Amazon
#327 [03:08] <Tetyys> Aout?
#328 [03:08] <AG_Scott> I need to get an off-shore VPS.
#329 [03:08] <AG_Scott> Why can't we have servers in Canada? :(
#330 [03:08] <Ramireus> xales: well then I suppose I am going to search for unprotected wifi:)
#331 [03:09] <AG_Scott> That's illegal.
#332 [03:09] <Tetyys> But free
#333 [03:09] <AG_Scott> But illegal.
#334 [03:09] * AG_Scott reports you to the cyberpolice.
#334 [03:09] <Tetyys> But cool
#335 [03:09] <Ramireus> :D:D:D
#336 [03:09] <AG_Scott> cause u dun goof'd
#337 [03:09] * Tetyys dont cares
#337 [03:10] <AG_Scott> I wonder how many people knows what that came from.
#338 [03:10] * Tetyys continue spam with proxy
#338 [03:10] <_303> It's a meme!
#339 [03:11] * Tetyys continues downloading portal 2 from tpb
#339 [03:11] <Ramireus> ok, thank you for advice:) bye for now.
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#342 [03:16] <N> derp
#343 [03:16] * N - gage
#343 [03:17] <aetherian> heh
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#359 [05:16] <lemon-rev> what update made wood disappear once burnd ?
#360 [05:17] <NotiCon> beta i think
#361 [05:18] <lemon-rev> its still in beta
#362 [05:18] <lemon-rev> i ment we are up to 1.5.1 i think it was fairly recent that made wood disappear it use to burn forever
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#364 [05:19] <NotiCon> did you look on the minepedia?
#365 [05:19] <lemon-rev> not yet, was or just thought id check here
#366 [05:19] <NotiCon> think it stands there
#367 [05:20] <NotiCon> err its written there*
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#370 [05:24] <lemon-rev> doesnt say
#371 [05:24] <lemon-rev> :(
#372 [05:24] <NotiCon> hmm
#373 [05:24] <lemon-rev> jsut says 1.2 was the update that if burning all 4 corners of wood it would disappear
#374 [05:25] <NotiCon> From Alpha 1.2 to Beta 1.3, wood would only be destroyed by fire if it had several sides simultaneously burning. If only one side was burning, the fire and wood block would last forever. This was probably a bug but made for nice fireplaces. Netherrack can also be used this way, as it burns forever.
#375 [05:25] <NotiCon> also says that
#376 [05:25] <NotiCon> which means it changed in 1.3
#377 [05:25] <lemon-rev> oh well, i didnt notice it till now :)
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#386 [06:19] <sealth> hello
#387 [06:19] <Tanjoodo> hi
#388 [06:19] <sealth> anyone wanna play minecraft
#389 [06:20] <NotiCon> #smp for that
#390 [06:20] <NotiCon> this is for help
#391 [06:20] <sealth> oh smp
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#393 [06:24] <lemon-rev> wow, rain YAY
#394 [06:24] <lemon-rev> first time in mc for me :P
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#396 [06:39] <Sinnersaix> anyone here that belong to the shadowcraft server? =)
#397 [06:40] <Tanjoodo> Yes
#398 [06:40] <Sinnersaix> i need an shadowcraft adminmodorsomethingthingy
#399 [06:40] <Tanjoodo> Did you apply?
#400 [06:41] <Sinnersaix> ?
#401 [06:41] <Tanjoodo> You can't just ask for moderators
#402 [06:41] <Sinnersaix> -_- i dont want become one i need help on the shadowcraftserver
#403 [06:41] <Tanjoodo> You have to fill up a form to ask for help
#404 [06:42] <Sinnersaix> O_O
#405 [06:42] <Tanjoodo> And you should show your loyalty by donating
#406 [06:42] <Sinnersaix> maybe i just should kill somebody >_>
#407 [06:42] <Tanjoodo> Then, you wait for 3 years
#408 [06:43] <Tanjoodo> after that, you have a 2% chance of that help being served
#409 [06:43] * Tanjoodo never played on ShadowCraft
#409 [06:43] <Tanjoodo> I was kidding :3
#410 [06:43] <Sinnersaix> ok cut it out smartmouth
#411 [06:43] <Sinnersaix> yeah i know
#412 [06:43] <Tanjoodo> :P
#413 [06:43] <Sinnersaix> but i still want to kill you and eat your heart
#414 [06:44] <Sinnersaix> and your discriped a wow server
#415 [06:44] <Sinnersaix> blizz will fu** your ass for copyrights =)
#416 [06:44] <Tanjoodo> lol
#417 [06:46] <Tanjoodo> Okay, now that we're done, can someone please help Mr.Sinnersaix?
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#419 [06:47] <NotiCon> Sinnersaix: did you try #smp?
#420 [06:48] <Sinnersaix> ?
#421 [06:48] <NotiCon> the channel #smp ?
#422 [06:48] <Sinnersaix> is that the channel from the shadowcraftserver?
#423 [06:48] <NotiCon> no idea but you could ask there
#424 [06:49] <NotiCon> this is just a help channel
#425 [06:49] <NotiCon> with issues regarding minecraft
#426 [06:49] <NotiCon> not smp
#427 [06:50] <Sinnersaix> yeah i know but i dont know the room from the shadowcraft server =( so no idea if one of the folks is on
#428 [06:50] <NotiCon> well you could try #smp
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#432 [06:59] * gPad2002 presents IDLECHAT (tm)
#432 [07:00] <NotiCon> oh he is here
#433 [07:00] <gPad2002> Yes. IT IS I.
#434 [07:01] <NotiCon> oh well then there is stuff to be made
#435 [07:02] <gPad2002> :P
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#437 [07:08] <gPad2002> bokaholic: You there?
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#446 [08:06] <Kus> hi... is there an easy way to stop animals from spawning? a mod or a program?
#447 [08:07] <NotiCon> animals as in cows chickens pigs?
#448 [08:09] <Kus> yep
#449 [08:10] <NotiCon> no idea
#450 [08:10] <_303> Kus: single player?
#451 [08:10] <Kus> yeah
#452 [08:10] <_303> maybe zombe's modpack can help
#453 [08:10] <_303> it has some spawn control thing
#454 [08:11] <_303> "option to reduce the population of specific type of critters - up to removing ALL (for example - remove all spiders from the game)"
#455 [08:14] <Kus> "options to disable spawning on various other materials (trees, grass, etc-etc)" ye :D that is what i need
#456 [08:14] <Kus> thx
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#460 [08:22] <lasse> i have created a minecraft server and i use the permissions plugin, but when i instaled the essentials plugin the permissions pluging dosent work anymore, is there anyone that know what the problem could be??
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#462 [08:23] <_303> try asking in #bukkit (or #permissions if that exists)
#463 [08:23] <lasse> ok
#464 [08:24] <Morrolan> Yea, #permission exists afaik, and #essentials should be there too.
#465 [08:24] <Morrolan> Yep, just checked, both exist.
#466 [08:24] <Morrolan> There should be a command to check wheter a channel exists without having to join it. :/
#467 [08:25] <gPad2002> ./cs info
#468 [08:25] <Morrolan> Hey, that's great. :)
#469 [08:25] <Morrolan> Thanks.
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#471 [08:36] <gPad2002> lasse: Uninstall the Essentials Group bridge thing
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#474 [08:52] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The plan for mods (Anonymous) - Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:47:29 +0200
#475 [08:52] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The plan for mods (Anonymous) - Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:47:29 +0200
#476 [08:53] <NotiCon> D:
#477 [08:53] <NotiCon> if only it would link it
#478 [08:54] <g> I forgot, it has is.gd now
#479 [08:54] <g> I can do that :P
#480 [08:54] <NotiCon> o:
#481 [08:54] * g goes and does that
#481 [08:54] <NotiCon> hf
#482 [08:55] <g> ~quit
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#485 [09:03] <g> Nearly there..
#486 [09:05] <g> that should do it
#487 [09:06] <g> (I hope)
#488 [09:06] * McPlusPlus [McPlusPlus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#489 [09:06] <Morrolan> " Let players sign up as “mod developers”. This will cost money"
#490 [09:06] <Morrolan> wtf?
#491 [09:06] <g> wtf indeed
#492 [09:06] <g> bot seems to be frozen.
#493 [09:06] <Morrolan> Need moar moneyz?
#494 [09:06] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The plan for mods (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/MbrVpJ
#495 [09:07] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Unable to parse feed!
#496 [09:07] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/WGSWQF
#497 [09:07] <g> thar
#498 [09:07] <g> links
#499 [09:07] <NotiCon> awesome
#500 [09:07] <Morrolan> Ah, nice.
#501 [09:07] <g> ~stfu
#502 [09:07] <Morrolan> Well, "The cost of signing up makes sure only serious developers
#503 [09:07] <Morrolan> have access to this certificate.
#504 [09:07] <Morrolan> is certainly true, but it also locks out poor developers. :/
#505 [09:08] <g> Screw that, I'm still writing custom tools
#506 [09:08] <NotiCon> tools != mods o:
#507 [09:08] <Morrolan> Hah, would be even better if we weren't allowed to create tools anymore. ^^
#508 [09:09] <g> well
#509 [09:09] <g> I'm certain that mcp/bukkit won't pay
#510 [09:09] <g> and those are the largets modders
#511 [09:09] <g> so
#512 [09:09] <g> lagest*
#513 [09:09] <Morrolan> Oh right, I'll hop over to bukkit, let's see what it's like there. :D
#514 [09:10] <Morrolan> Oh, and he's getting hammered on Twitter it seems. :D
#515 [09:10] <Morrolan> g: Depending on how aggressive his laywers are they won't have any choice other than to pay. :/
#516 [09:11] <NotiCon> thats if they want to keep modding
#517 [09:11] <Morrolan> Actually, doesn't this still allow open source mods?
#518 [09:11] <Morrolan> Cause they were using non obfuscated code then. :/
#519 [09:12] <Morrolan> does this still allow*
#520 [09:12] <NotiCon> he needs to change the licens of the game then
#521 [09:12] <Morrolan> Hmm, yea.
#522 [09:13] <lasse> http://notch.tumblr.com/post/4955141617/the-plan-for-mods
#523 [09:13] <g> we know :P
#524 [09:13] <Morrolan> Yep. :D
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#526 [09:13] <g> Protip: ~check NotchBlog
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#528 [09:15] <Morrolan> Huh, no Mojang employees on IRC anymore, guess they were intelligent enough to disconnect before that blog post. :p
#529 [09:16] <Morrolan> Oh wait, Mollstam's still here, but he's "only" the web dev, so he should be fine. :)
#530 [09:16] <NotiCon> you sure about that?
#531 [09:17] <Morrolan> Hmm?
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#533 [09:17] <NotiCon> he being fine?
#534 [09:19] <Morrolan> Well, most modders are smart enough not to bother him I guess, he can't really do much about that.
#535 [09:19] <Morrolan> If it were something which would affect the whole Minecraft community and therefore all the younger people as well he might get spammed though. ;)
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#553 [09:28] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The cost of the mod api (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/gRLlHE
#554 [09:28] <g> I shot a big while I was at it :P
#555 [09:28] <g> bug*
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#558 [09:41] <Kus> does anyone know why my t-flip flop keeps on dyeing on me? one of the torches just die
#559 [09:43] <NotiCon> aww he got shot down
#560 [09:44] <Kus> ?
#561 [09:44] <NotiCon> notch
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#563 [09:46] <g> good
#564 [09:46] <Mishpul> Hello! I have a problem!
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#566 [09:47] <g> ??> Mishpul ask
#567 [09:47] <VoxelHead> Mishpul: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#568 [09:47] <Mishpul> all servers are laggy and slow
#569 [09:47] <VoxelHead> Mishpul: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#570 [09:47] <g> You're just chosing the wrong servers :P
#571 [09:47] <Kus> anyone here know a thing or 2 about redstone?
#572 [09:47] <Mishpul> Chat is lake 10-20 sec late,
#573 [09:47] <Mishpul> yeah but i tryed like 20 servers
#574 [09:48] <g> Mishpul: http://speedtest.net
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#576 [09:48] <g> Tell us what your risult is
#577 [09:48] <g> result*
#578 [09:49] <Mishpul> ping 36 down 17,23 and up 29,48
#579 [09:49] <g> mb?
#580 [09:49] <Mishpul> yes
#581 [09:50] <g> are you downloading stuff at the same time?
#582 [09:50] <NotiCon> link the picture
#583 [09:50] <Mishpul> no, im not
#584 [09:50] <Mishpul> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1269311713.png
#585 [09:50] <g> it's fast, i'll give him that
#586 [09:51] <g> I dunno, most servers have been laggy since the update
#587 [09:51] <g> aside from the really good ones
#588 [09:52] <Mishpul> g_ but thats bothering me, Ive bought this game today because i wanted multiplayer so ..... much!
#589 [09:52] <NotiCon> so you didnt buy it to play it?
#590 [09:53] <Mishpul> Honestly, I have pirated version for like a week, and its realy REALLY great game so i decided to buy it for real
#591 [09:53] <Mishpul> to help notch, and to play multiplayer
#592 [09:56] <Kus> anyone here know a thing or 2 about redstone?
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#594 [09:57] <Mishpul> Ok guys, thanks for help, I hope i will find some good fast servers
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#601 [10:20] <seanoconnor> Hi
#602 [10:21] <seanoconnor> can someone help me with my server ?
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#604 [10:22] <seanoconnor> please ?
#605 [10:23] <g> ?? ask
#606 [10:23] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#607 [10:23] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#608 [10:24] <seanoconnor> I would like to put an older save on my server , but i dont know how ( We were grieffed :S )
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#610 [10:24] <g> Do you HAVE an older save?
#611 [10:25] <seanoconnor> My hoster saves the server every 6hours , i should be able to get one ? no ?
#612 [10:26] <g> you'll have to ask your hoster
#613 [10:27] <seanoconnor> Cant i find it on my server's FTP ?
#614 [10:27] <g> I have no idea
#615 [10:27] <g> Why don't you check?
#616 [10:27] <seanoconnor> i did , but i dont want to mess it all up :S
#617 [10:27] <g> just copy it over your current save
#618 [10:29] <seanoconnor> what is the extension of the save ?
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#620 [10:29] <g> it should jsut be a folder
#621 [10:29] <g> just*
#622 [10:30] <seanoconnor> i have a folder called World :S and inside a folder called region with ultiple docs in it :S
#623 [10:33] <pwnus> Hey guys, asking for some help here.... im trying to get the 2x view distance mod to work. but the documentation is unclear. can you help me get it installed?
#624 [10:33] <pwnus> link in a moment
#625 [10:33] <g> seanoconnor: That's correct
#626 [10:34] <g> the world folder is your save
#627 [10:34] <g> so copy the old world folder over the new onw
#628 [10:34] <g> one*
#629 [10:34] <seanoconnor> Ok :D
#630 [10:34] <pwnus> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=264278&p=4231724&sid=19bb41d3c3c9af8adebdbebace27d802
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#632 [10:35] <pwnus> in the documentation it says to "ad the i.class file to the minecraft.jar file"
#633 [10:35] <seanoconnor> g: And another question , how do i had an texture pack (on solo )
#634 [10:35] <pwnus> i dont know how to add any content to my minecraft.jar file
#635 [10:35] <g> pwnus: rename it to minecraft.zip
#636 [10:36] <g> then delete the META-INF folder in it
#637 [10:36] <g> and drop the mod into it
#638 [10:37] <pwnus> workin' on it. will let you know how it goes
#639 [10:39] <pwnus> ok the "ziped" .jar file is open
#640 [10:40] <pwnus> do i replace the files or just ad?
#641 [10:41] <pwnus> ok lets see how this goes
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#643 [10:42] <pwnus> failed to load
#644 [10:42] <pwnus> :( sad face
#645 [10:42] <pwnus> ill try the 1.5x mod
#646 [10:43] <pwnus> here is a link to the updated page http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=264278
#647 [10:52] <g> oh, good
#648 [10:52] <g> * Let players sign up as “mod developers”. This will cost money(edit: no longer costs money!), and will require you agreeing to a license deal (you only need one per mod team).
#649 [10:52] <pwnus> hi guys, just wondering has anyone here ever sucessfuly applied this mod? i cant seem to get it to work
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#651 [10:53] <Morrolan> g: Welcome to the presence. :p
#652 [10:53] <Morrolan> pwnus: Might want to ask in #risucraft .
#653 [10:54] <pwnus> risucraft?
#654 [10:54] <Morrolan> A channel dedicated to modding (support)
#655 [10:54] <pwnus> ok. thank you
#656 [10:54] <g> :P
#657 [10:54] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#658 [10:54] <pwnus> :)
#659 [10:55] <Morrolan> g: What sort of quotes did you use around "Mod developers" ?
#660 [10:55] <Morrolan> Seems my client isn't able to display them correctly. :/
#661 [10:55] <g> I just copied them
#662 [10:55] <g> they do look a bit odd
#663 [10:55] <g> “
#664 [10:55] <Morrolan> “mod developers”
#665 [10:56] <Morrolan> If I copy them they look fine for me Oo
#666 [10:56] <g> hm
#667 [10:56] <Morrolan> Must be a problem with ASCII <-> Unicode
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#669 [10:56] <Morrolan> Oh well, there are bigger problems in the world I guess. :D
#670 [10:57] <g> true that
#671 [10:58] <Morrolan> I'd really like to see how they'll make it possible to run multiple mods without conflicts though. :/
#672 [10:58] <g> brb
#673 [10:58] <g> yeah, same
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#676 [11:05] <g> back
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#683 [11:37] <bokaholic> I need to allocate RAM to the new minecraft server? Anyone know how to do that?
#684 [11:37] <bokaholic> It's saying 'TOO MUCH RAM!" and being a bit laggy for people.
#685 [11:38] <xolotl> bokaholic: Use the .jar and adjust -Xmx and -Xms to suit (the former is the max memory it'll use, the latter is the starting allocation)
#686 [11:38] <xolotl> Also, "too much RAM?" That sounds a bit... odd.
#687 [11:39] <bokaholic> Oh. My bad. Just woke up :I
#688 [11:39] <bokaholic> Not ENOUGH ram. :D
#689 [11:40] <bokaholic> Where in the .jar?
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#693 [11:48] <shiverdecker> not the jar but the .bat you use to launch it
#694 [11:49] <shiverdecker> your see a -xmx 512 change that to your ideal ram
#695 [11:49] <shiverdecker> same for the -xms
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#697 [11:50] <cutze2k> Anyone here who could probably help me with something ?
#698 [11:51] <shiverdecker> maybe
#699 [11:51] <cutze2k> So,somehow I forgot my password for my account. I reset it and typed in a new password. Anyway,I cannot login with this new password.
#700 [11:52] <cutze2k> Did that 2 times. Still no work.
#701 [11:53] * bokaholic goes to take a look. brbs.
#701 [11:55] <bokaholic> Hmm. I'm not sure what to do. Or what to type in that box exactly..?
#702 [11:56] <bokaholic> I'm sorry.
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#704 [11:58] <ryantombacco> hi guys - im trying to get onto a minecraft server but im stuck at 'connecting'
#705 [11:58] <ryantombacco> ive been able to connect before and i can connect to other servers
#706 [12:01] <ryantombacco> can anyone help?
#707 [12:03] <NotiCon> ryantombacco: you sure its running?
#708 [12:04] <ryantombacco> well a friend of mine was on the server
#709 [12:04] <ryantombacco> and everything was fine
#710 [12:04] <ryantombacco> but now that he left the server he has the same issue
#711 [12:04] <ryantombacco> so its definitely a problem with the server
#712 [12:04] <ryantombacco> however it is listed on the server list page of minecraft
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#716 [12:11] <reycardo> Hi
#717 [12:11] <Zxcv> Whenever I launch Minecraft, after logging in and loading the main menu, it becomes so slow and one frame per 5 seconds or so and task manager shows two cores being used maximally
#718 [12:11] <Zxcv> Java is up to date
#719 [12:11] <Zxcv> and I'm on Windows 7
#720 [12:11] <Zxcv> Game is up to date as well
#721 [12:12] <Zxcv> This seems to happen every time now, before it would just happen often and if it didn't happen at launch it wouldn't happen later
#722 [12:12] <reycardo> well I have a problem too
#723 [12:13] <Zxcv> Just state your problem like I did, it usually works the best
#724 [12:13] <reycardo> I launch the game and it runs into a blackscreen before I can see MAJONG logo
#725 [12:14] <reycardo> Mojang*
#726 [12:14] <Zxcv> Closing Chrome just fixed my problem.
#727 [12:15] <Zxcv> I was guessing some process was interfering but I wouldn't know which
#728 [12:15] <Zxcv> and even now I wouldn't know WHY
#729 [12:15] <Zxcv> Chrome was not using a lot of memory, that wasn't the issue
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#731 [12:18] <reycardo> well
#732 [12:18] <reycardo> my problem always happens
#733 [12:18] <reycardo> even if I download MC or play in browser
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#736 [12:20] <reycardo> what I do hate is that I have tried every thing forums posted about fixing MC prroblems
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#741 [12:29] <Zxcv> Well I hope you find some way to use my information, help people
#742 [12:32] * bokaholic pokes at Kealper.
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#743 [12:41] <g> bokaholic!
#744 [12:41] <g> :P
#745 [12:41] <bokaholic> Hey there.
#746 [12:41] <g> How're you getting on?
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#748 [12:48] <bokaholic> well. About to take my weekly visit to the zoo.. Then home to play more minecraft.
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#750 [12:49] <Veleno> Any one here
#751 [12:50] <bokaholic> o.o
#752 [12:50] <bokaholic> There's lot of people here.
#753 [12:50] <bokaholic> You should see a list of names.
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#755 [12:51] <Veleno> I'm having a problem with my minecraft -_- everytime I dig out a area my game freezes up black when I walk back into the area i dig out
#756 [12:51] <Veleno> then i reload my game and I have all the items i digged out but the area is back to before i dug it out
#757 [12:51] <Veleno> same thing with trees
#758 [12:51] <Veleno> i walk under a tree that I chopped down and my game locks up
#759 [12:54] <Veleno> yeah boka so many people
#760 [12:54] <Veleno> >_>
#761 [12:56] <Veleno> please please don't all answer at once. because there are SO MANY people here!
#762 [12:56] <g> What what what
#763 [12:56] <g> OH right
#764 [12:57] <g> I... dont' know
#765 [12:57] <g> I've never seen anything like that before
#766 [12:57] <bread> >:|
#767 [12:57] <bread> We don't have to answer your questions, you know.
#768 [12:57] <Veleno> never had this issue before either -_- I downloaded the latest one and I'm getting the same issues
#769 [12:57] <bread> Everyone here is a volunteer.
#770 [12:58] <bread> No need to be a sarcstic twat because we don't answer IMMEDIATELY.
#771 [12:58] <Veleno> uhhh bokaholic was the dick that started
#772 [12:58] <Veleno> what the fuck got up your ass
#773 [12:58] <bread> You, being an ungrateful twat.
#774 [12:58] <Veleno> LOL
#775 [12:58] <Veleno> oh i'm sorry that I want a game that I paid for to work
#776 [12:59] <Veleno> i'm so ungrateful
#777 [12:59] <Veleno> shame on me
#778 [12:59] <bread> Hey guess what bro, the game isn't even done yet.
#779 [12:59] <Veleno> :( i'm sowwy everyone
#780 [12:59] <Veleno> I'm just a baddy
#781 [12:59] <Veleno> hey guess what
#782 [12:59] <Veleno> the money i put down was real
#783 [13:00] <bread> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_cSnpoKMMk
#784 [13:00] <Veleno> It's cool that I show my support for a unfinished game and end up getting hassled by uptight assholes :D
#785 [13:00] <Veleno> lol :D
#786 [13:00] <Wug[zzzz]> gv
#787 [13:00] <Morrolan> ffs, stop it already, that won't bring anyone anywhere.
#788 [13:00] <g> Veleno, if you're going to proceed to be an ass here, nobody is going to even bother replying.
#789 [13:00] <bread> Whatever you say bro, you instigated it with your douchey comment 'please please don't all answer at once. because there are SO MANY people here!'
#790 [13:01] <Veleno> lol cool now I'm being singled out as a bad guy
#791 [13:01] <Veleno> even though i'm the one being attacked xD
#792 [13:01] <Veleno> I come in here and first person attacks me then I continued to get hassled :P
#793 [13:01] <g> It's all about attitude, as I'm sure Kealper can remind us
#794 [13:01] <Morrolan> Again, this will NOT bring you ANYWHERE.
#795 [13:01] <Veleno> fair and balance going on here peoples
#796 [13:01] <Veleno> the scales of justice are amazing!
#797 [13:01] <bread> Well, getting upset because someone doesn't answer your question is a load of shit.
#798 [13:02] * g +1's brea
#798 [13:02] <Veleno> and adding wood to the fire doesn't help buddy
#799 [13:02] <g> d*
#800 [13:02] <bread> Because guess what, everyone in here is a volunteer. We owe you _nothing_
#801 [13:02] <Morrolan> If you want a refund send a mail to Mojang support, if you want help wait a bit, there might be somenoe who knows what to do, but don't be that impatient please.
#802 [13:02] <Veleno> if I was some one else I would be having a bitch fit with you hassling me and then insulting me with your sad little video lol
#803 [13:02] <Veleno> and yet I'm the bad guy right?
#804 [13:02] <Veleno> i get called a twat
#805 [13:02] <Veleno> a asshole
#806 [13:02] <Wug> kealper
#807 [13:02] <Veleno> and then sarcasticly answered XD
#808 [13:03] <bread> You're an impatiend little fuck.
#809 [13:03] <Veleno> LOL
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#811 [13:03] <Morrolan> bread: That doesn't help the discussion either.
#812 [13:03] <Veleno> okay want to add more there bread?
#813 [13:03] <g> Veleno, You're just digging yourself into a hole, really
#814 [13:03] <Veleno> TY
#815 [13:03] <Xethic> hi
#816 [13:03] <Veleno> are you serious right now G?...
#817 [13:03] <Morrolan> Hey Xethic
#818 [13:03] <Xethic> how can i register? ^^ pla help me
#819 [13:03] <g> It'd be better for both of you if you weny your separate ways.
#820 [13:03] <Xethic> *pls
#821 [13:03] <bread> Xethic: register for what?
#822 [13:03] <Morrolan> Veleno, Bread, g, Please take that into a query.
#823 [13:03] <Morrolan> Xethic: For irc?
#824 [13:03] <Xethic> the minecraft channel
#825 [13:03] <Xethic> yes
#826 [13:03] <Morrolan> type /ns help
#827 [13:03] <g> Morrolan: Can has three-way query? :P
#828 [13:03] <bread> Xethic: #help
#829 [13:04] <Morrolan> g: Euhm, no idea, new channel then. ;)
#830 [13:04] <g> Already do
#831 [13:04] <g> If anyone wants to continue that, #arspam
#832 [13:04] <Morrolan> Thanks.
#833 [13:04] <Veleno> Any one have the issue of game just freezing up after digging/chopping down a tree?
#834 [13:05] <Morrolan> Veleno: Never seen that before, single player or multiplayer?
#835 [13:05] <Veleno> single player
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#837 [13:05] <Veleno> I tried downloading the new one but I'm getting the same issue
#838 [13:05] <Veleno> what's weird is that I keep everything I dug out but the world resets after I reboot it
#839 [13:05] <Morrolan> Are you able to place blocks without issues?
#840 [13:05] <Wug> whats your mc username
#841 [13:05] <Veleno> yeah but the blocks disappear when I reboot the game
#842 [13:06] <Veleno> rollen
#843 [13:06] <Morrolan> Seems that Minecraft isn't able to save the world. :/
#844 [13:06] <Wug> !paid rollen
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#846 [13:06] <Wug> try updating java?
#847 [13:06] <Morrolan> Veleno: Never seen something like this before. How much RAM does your PC have?
#848 [13:07] <Wug> anyway i can't stay
#849 [13:09] <Veleno> 6 GB
#850 [13:09] <Morrolan> Well, that's certainly not the problem then. :/
#851 [13:09] <Morrolan> Can you try to save a random file to where the Minecraft saves are?
#852 [13:13] <Morrolan> Well, that problem solved itself.
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#854 [13:13] <Veleno> sorry,
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#856 [13:13] <Morrolan> np
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#858 [13:13] * g gives Morrolan a cookie
#858 [13:13] * Morrolan eats a cookie
#858 [13:14] <Morrolan> or rather, THE cookie
#859 [13:14] <Morrolan> Unless I ate another one, but that would be kinda strange. :D
#860 [13:14] <Veleno> when I press ESC it saves fine. but when I walk into the area it locks up and then it crashes. when I boot it up it saves all my items that I dug out and but puts the ore blocks back. so I could technically farm infinite ore lol
#861 [13:15] <Morrolan> Oh, so when you press ESC it works? That's really strange. :/
#862 [13:15] <Morrolan> So it can be forced to save, but normally it doesn't.
#863 [13:15] <Morrolan> Now does this happen with every block, or only with certain types / sometimes ?
#864 [13:16] <Morrolan> Oh, and did you try to reinstall Minecraft already?
#865 [13:16] <Veleno> didn't know you could
#866 [13:16] <Morrolan> What OS are you on?
#867 [13:16] <Veleno> windows 7
#868 [13:16] <Veleno> 64 bit
#869 [13:16] <Morrolan> ?? win/reinst
#870 [13:16] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#871 [13:17] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#872 [13:18] <Veleno> alright done, i'll try it out thanks
#873 [13:19] <Morrolan> Let's hope it works. :
#874 [13:19] <Morrolan> :/*
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#877 [13:25] <Veleno> i think that did it, I haven't crashed at all. Thanks a lot Morrolan, sorry for getting aggressive I just don't like needless smart asses -_-
#878 [13:25] <Morrolan> No problem. :)
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#880 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#881 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#882 [13:32] <Morrolan> ?
#883 [13:32] <g> ?
#884 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Guess Daniel got that email.
#885 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> "It has come to our attention that there are people out there selling Minecraft accounts/giftcodes with stolen credit cards and hacked PayPal accounts. As you may understand we cannot support people who purchase Minecraft from other sites than www.minecraft.net. The stolen codes will be inactivated in a given time."
#886 [13:32] <g> There's nothing at that link..
#887 [13:32] <Morrolan> Empty for me as well.
#888 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, try mojang.com
#889 [13:33] <Morrolan> Ah, see it now, thanks.
#890 [13:34] <g> ~reload
#891 [13:34] <g> Hopefully the mojang feed will start working
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#893 [13:35] <g> I fixed the double-posting bug and the one where it sent the feeds to the wrong channels
#894 [13:35] <g> one-line fixes ftw
#895 [13:35] <g> ~feeds
#896 [13:35] <g> ~check Mojang-blog
#897 [13:35] <g> I forgot, it doesn't check it if it's marked broken
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#899 [13:35] <g> guess that means a reboot
#900 [13:35] <g> ~quit
#901 [13:36] <g> hopefully this works
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#903 [13:36] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The cost of the mod api (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/gRLlHE
#904 [13:36] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Achtung! Uwaga! Attention! (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/Xxfrwj
#905 [13:36] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/WGSWQF
#906 [13:36] <g> it did
#907 [13:36] <g> nice
#908 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Yay
#909 [13:36] <g> ~stfu
#910 [13:40] <Morrolan> g: Why don't you just link to the article directly? Would the URL be too long?
#911 [13:42] <g> yeah
#912 [13:42] <g> I is.gd it because it's tidier
#913 [13:42] <g> the less space it takes up, the better
#914 [13:44] <g> also
#915 [13:44] <g> I have a working C++ IRC bot now
#916 [13:44] <g> But it doesn't do anything
#917 [13:44] <g> :P
#918 [13:45] <Morrolan> Make it so it can have a bitchfight with Vox then. :D
#919 [13:45] <g> xD
#920 [13:45] <g> I already did the auto-shut-up
#921 [13:45] <g> for the lulz and for testing
#922 [13:49] * VoxelHead is sad that G hates it.
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#924 [13:50] <Morrolan> I somehow doubt that Vox's AI is smart enough for that, smells like remote control. :D
#925 [13:51] <dopeghoti> ??+ mc.net/resoldcodes|It is not advisavle to purchase Minecraft accounts or codes from third parties, even at a discount.;;See http://is.gd/Xxfrwj
#926 [13:51] <dopeghoti> It may have been.
#927 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> s/advisvle/advisable
#928 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> g: thanks for that link @ mojang.com; an importand item to have in the FAQdb
#929 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> ??~ mc.net/resoldcodes|It is not advisable to purchase Minecraft accounts or codes from third parties, even at a discount.;;See http://is.gd/Xxfrwj
#930 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: one of these days, I'll add regexp-based FAQ updating.
#931 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Meh, more work than is really needed
#932 [13:53] <Morrolan> Oh, could we get an entry about people's saves breaking when their computer powers down while the map is loading?
#933 [13:53] <Morrolan> (Can be fixed by opening and saving the map in MCEdit most of the time)
#934 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't that fixed in the latest version.. or was I thinking of something else..
#935 [13:55] <Morrolan> Nah, since the latest version modded blocks are removed if the mod isn't installed anymore.
#936 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: that was in the change notes
#937 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Or wait, no, you're right, Daniel sent me an email saying it was supposed to be fixed but isn't
#938 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> ah
#939 [13:55] <Morrolan> Ah, ok.
#940 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> "Corruption of file: In theory, this should already be working. Dunno why it is not working. We will look into it eventually."
#941 [13:55] <Morrolan> I like that "eventually". ^^
#942 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: got an URL handy for MCedit?
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#944 [13:56] <Morrolan> shortened?
#945 [13:57] <DopeGhoti> that'd be fine; I'll take longform too
#946 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Nothing google can't give you faster
#947 [13:57] <Morrolan> http://is.gd/rnBfkU
#948 [13:57] <DopeGhoti> ??+ nullsave|If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.;;MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#949 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=15522#p271802
#950 [13:57] <Morrolan> Thanks.
#951 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> cheers
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#954 [14:08] <Kuro_maii> Oke I just read the Topic of this chat room. and I know this is NOT the please to ask for account issues. so I am going to ask if someone knows a/the address/url to go to for things that have to do whit that
#955 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> mailto://support@mojang.com
#956 [14:12] <Kuro_maii> Ha thank you
#957 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> we can give general advice, but most account issues end up there, Kuro_maii (:
#958 [14:20] <NotiCon> DopeGhoti: did you include that mailto thingy with the mail? just wondering if my client is acting up
#959 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> NotiCon: mailto:// format is the proper URL for an email address; plugging mailto://box@exmaple.com into a mail client, however, will not work, as that's not a proper email address; it's a URL _for_ one.
#960 [14:22] <NotiCon> well yea but i was just wondering
#961 [14:23] <NotiCon> cause my client normally shows them as link anyhow could be it was being bugging and showing it for me
#962 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> NotiCon: well, it is a link which, when clicked on a properly set up computer, will open the mail client's composition window with the To: field filled in
#963 [14:24] <NotiCon> ino the stuff about the mailto stuff
#964 [14:24] <NotiCon> its just if you write the mail@someth.com
#965 [14:24] <NotiCon> i get it as a link
#966 [14:24] <NotiCon> which is mailto: link
#967 [14:24] <NotiCon> where you just get the text
#968 [14:25] * Kealper is back
#968 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> ah, I see what you're saying. I was asked for an URL, so I gave one (:
#969 [14:27] <NotiCon> no worries
#970 [14:28] <Kuro_maii> Well I asked for an address/url so both where a possibility
#971 [14:29] <Morrolan> I really hope that the launcher will allow to use the "connect to server" parameter only on startup in the near future. :/
#972 [14:30] <Morrolan> (Without having to pass username and password I mean)
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#974 [14:31] <Morrolan> Oops, wrong channel, sorry. ^^
#975 [14:31] <Kuro_maii> @DopeGhoti: I don't suppose you know how one changes there email address from there account? 'cause that is the question I just send in.
#976 [14:31] <Morrolan> Kuro: You can't afaik.
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#979 [14:42] <Kuro_maii> Not in your profile page, so I hope my "sucking up a bit" is going to have the ability for users who have or have not bought Minecraft to do it them selfs
#980 [14:42] <xorcon> hi
#981 [14:43] <xorcon> guys i could use some help :/
#982 [14:43] <Kuro_maii> It would be quite nice imho
#983 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Kuro_maii - It was implemented in the past, the problem was that it also gave hijacked users the ability to lock out people's accounts, after changing their password
#984 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> So they couldn't get in, nor request a password recovery
#985 [14:44] <Morrolan> xorcon: What do you need?
#986 [14:44] <xorcon> my problem is this: when i open minecraft.com or the forum (any site) it says it´s under construction :/
#987 [14:44] <xorcon> on every browser
#988 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> It required people sending in their account's payment info to verify, which lead to a lot of emails being sent to support
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#990 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - minecraft.net?
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#992 [14:45] <xorcon> yeah ;D
#993 [14:45] <xorcon> >_<
#994 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> could you please do this:
#995 [14:45] <Morrolan> xorcon: Euhm, could you make a screenshot?
#996 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/hosts
#997 [14:45] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#998 [14:45] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#999 [14:45] <Morrolan> Oh right, might want to try GreyVulpine's idea first.
#1000 [14:46] <Kuro_maii> there was no back-up check for the old email address?
#1001 [14:47] <xorcon> that?: 99.198.121.104 minecraft.net 99.198.121.104 www.minecraft.net 99.198.121.104 minecraftforum.net 99.198.121.104 www.minecraftforum.net
#1002 [14:47] <Morrolan> xorcon: Paste it on pastebin.co
#1003 [14:47] <Morrolan> pastebin.com*
#1004 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL, please
#1005 [14:48] <xorcon> http://pastebin.com/2AHxgaZQ here you are guys
#1006 [14:48] <xorcon> thank you very very much :D
#1007 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Is that the entire file?
#1008 [14:49] <xorcon> no
#1009 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Well, um, okay. Could you delete everything in there relating to minecraft, save it, and try again
#1010 [14:49] <xorcon> http://pastebin.com/v6yHzB3V
#1011 [14:49] <xorcon> okay...
#1012 [14:50] <Morrolan> Oh, and another guy who, euhm, uses a "custom" version of Adobe software. :D
#1013 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Meh, couldn't care less about the adobe stuff
#1014 [14:51] * GreyVulpine wonders why the hosts file was modified for the forums' address
#1014 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Meh.
#1015 [14:51] <xorcon> ;P
#1016 [14:51] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1016 [14:51] <Morrolan> Me neither, but it's funny that nearly everyone who posts their hosts file here is using a pirated adobe software.
#1017 [14:51] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Might be Minecraft related malware.
#1018 [14:52] <xorcon> yes
#1019 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> I mean, I understand the minecraft.net redirect..
#1020 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> but minecraftforums has nothing to do with minecraft's authentication process
#1021 [14:52] <Morrolan> But this way people aren't able to ask for help if their system is messed up somehow.
#1022 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, good point
#1023 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Hadn't thought of that
#1024 [14:54] <xorcon> yesss :D:D:D the forum works but minecraft not :/
#1025 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> You okay there xorcon?
#1026 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Why isn't minecraft?
#1027 [14:54] <Morrolan> Did you delete the two lines with minecraft.net as well?
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#1029 [14:55] <Morrolan> containing minecraft.net *
#1030 [14:55] <xorcon> sure^^ its still under construction
#1031 [14:55] <xorcon> proxies say different stuff :/
#1032 [14:56] <xorcon> BUUUUT now i can play online again :D
#1033 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> You removed the 4 lines in the hosts file that had minecraft.net?\
#1034 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Then, press uh.
#1035 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> ctrl-f5 on minecraft.net
#1036 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> It might be cached
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#1038 [14:57] <xorcon> yes.
#1039 [14:57] <xorcon> thank you very much guys you are the best :D
#1040 [14:57] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#1041 [14:57] <Morrolan> Well, not that I did much, but still :D
#1042 [14:58] <xorcon> i ll send you 1k diamonds
#1043 [14:58] <xorcon> ;D
#1044 [14:58] <xorcon> happy gaming
#1045 [14:58] <xorcon> ...or helping ;D
#1046 [14:58] * GreyVulpine nods and goes back to being afk
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#1051 [15:24] <g> LG_Legacy / [L], what did you want the other day?
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#1054 [15:41] * Kealper just read up to like a few hours ago
#1054 [15:42] * Kealper sighs
#1054 [15:42] * g shrugs
#1054 [15:44] * DopeGhoti wonders if xorcon will end up buting the game :p
#1054 [15:44] * g didn't know you could but games
#1054 [15:45] <Kealper> buting games is awesome
#1055 [15:45] <g> :P
#1056 [15:45] * Kealper uses a dish of spaghetti-Os as chip dip
#1056 [15:47] <g> :P
#1057 [15:47] <g> win
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#1059 [15:49] <Kealper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupper%27s_self-referential_formula <-- epic
#1060 [15:50] <Kealper> a mathmatic formula that can draw itself
#1061 [15:51] <g> lol, a mathematical quine
#1062 [15:51] <g> :P
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#1064 [15:53] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: tbh I was amazed that no one kicked him when we saw his host file. ^^
#1065 [15:54] <Morrolan> Or well, not "amazed", but more like "astonished"
#1066 [15:56] <NotiCon> Morrolan: was it all but warez stuff?
#1067 [15:56] <Kealper> was it full of workarounds for all sorts of stuff? lol
#1068 [15:56] <Kealper> i don't care if people have that shit, it's their life, not mine
#1069 [15:56] <Morrolan> Well, there was one for Minecraft and one for Adobe. ^^
#1070 [15:56] <Kealper> and caring about stuff like that is out of the scope of my interest, and this channel
#1071 [15:57] <relsqui> Kealper: wwwwhat
#1072 [15:57] <relsqui> (re formula)
#1073 [15:57] <NotiCon> relsqui: its math
#1074 [15:57] <Morrolan> Basically the file had seven lines, four for Minecraft and seven for Adobe. :D
#1075 [15:57] <NotiCon> then it had 1!?
#1076 [15:57] <NotiCon> 11?*
#1077 [15:57] <Morrolan> and three for Adobe*
#1078 [15:57] <relsqui> well, yes, clearly it's math :)
#1079 [15:57] <NotiCon> oh
#1080 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: If we can get a former pirate to actually buy the game, I'm all for that.
#1081 [15:58] <Morrolan> Sure thing.
#1082 [15:58] <Morrolan> It's just that normally it's like "Oh, you pirated the game you said?" -> Kick.
#1083 [15:59] <Morrolan> Anyway, I don't mind. ;)
#1084 [15:59] <Kealper> in here you only get kicked for being a dick about pirating Minecraft, refusing to buy it, and still expecting help or being a douchebag about it
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#1086 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> ^
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#1088 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Like I told people in #minecraft the other day, I'll kick upon seeing, "It's a beta test, I should play it for free", "Notch is a millionare, I don't have any money for minecraft", or "Graphics suck, this game isn't worth $money"
#1089 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> ie, hopeless piraters who don't plan on buying it in the first place.
#1090 [16:08] <g> That makes sense
#1091 [16:08] <g> Converting pirates is all good though
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#1093 [16:09] <Kealper> but they are not kicked instantly, because those that just pirated it so they could do a try-before-you-buy thing, (which i have seen a lot of, and is rather prevelant in this community)...well, it's better to give them a rather fair experience, while still showing the benifits of purchasing it
#1094 [16:09] <Kealper> because those are the people who are most likely to actually buy the game, and more people buying = better
#1095 [16:10] <Kealper> well, of all the pirates, that is
#1096 [16:10] <g> You do notice though
#1097 [16:10] <g> that they /DO/ get a better experience by buying it
#1098 [16:10] <g> because it's impossible to bypass serverside name checking
#1099 [16:10] <g> (Unless they turn it off)
#1100 [16:11] <Kealper> yeah, i usually just lay on the "you need to buy the game to properly play on multiplayer" pretty heavy lol
#1101 [16:12] <g> yeah
#1102 [16:12] <g> :P
#1103 [16:12] * g inserts a map of buffer objects into his bot
#1103 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> kinky.
#1104 [16:13] <g> more specifically
#1105 [16:13] <g> a QMap<QString, IrcBuffer>;
#1106 [16:13] * g shrugs
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#1107 [16:14] <g> wait, no
#1108 [16:14] <g> QMap<QString, IrcBuffer*>
#1109 [16:14] <g> pointers ftw
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#1111 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Oh, I got somebody in here the other day, trying to get this working:
#1112 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> http://mineshafter.appspot.com/
#1113 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Basically an alternative minecraft authentication proxy.. thing
#1114 [16:19] <fogWraith> But... it allows... piracy :|
#1115 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, considering the first line in the instructions says..
#1116 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> "Make sure that you have a Minecraft.net account (paid or not, doesn't matter)."
#1117 [16:19] <fogWraith> Wonder how long it will go unnoticed
#1118 [16:19] <g> So many Hamachi servers..
#1119 [16:20] <g> lame
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#1121 [16:20] <g> okay, now
#1122 [16:20] <Morrolan> g: There are worse things than Hamachi. Search for "192.168" on mcserverlist.net XD
#1123 [16:20] <g> I need to write in settings..
#1124 [16:20] <g> hm? alright
#1125 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez, really?
#1126 [16:21] <Morrolan> Yep
#1127 [16:21] <g> It wouldn't surprise me
#1128 [16:21] <g> rofl
#1129 [16:21] <g> yeah I see them
#1130 [16:21] <Morrolan> 19 out of 4459
#1131 [16:21] <fogWraith> Try my server its awesome! 127.0.0.1!!
#1132 [16:22] <g> xD
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#1135 [16:22] <Morrolan> I mean, it's only 0.5%, but it didn't really help my belief in humanity. ^^
#1136 [16:22] <mib_jt22wk> Can i sell free accounts to other peoples?
#1137 [16:22] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#1138 [16:23] <Morrolan> Free accounts?
#1139 [16:23] <mib_jt22wk> Not activated with code
#1140 [16:23] <fogWraith> Why would you do that?
#1141 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> But, free accounts are free...
#1142 [16:23] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#1143 [16:23] <g> bah
#1144 [16:23] <g> Notch messed his feed up
#1145 [16:23] <mib_jt22wk> http://allegro.pl/nowe-twoje-nieaktywowane-konto-minecraft-i1568830138.html
#1146 [16:24] <g> You're selling free accounts?
#1147 [16:24] <g> You, sir, have made my day
#1148 [16:24] <Morrolan> Uuh, does anyone speak polnish here?
#1149 [16:24] <mib_jt22wk> This guy is selling free minecraft accounts for 10PLN, about 2.5€
#1150 [16:24] <mib_jt22wk> Is it legal?
#1151 [16:24] <Morrolan> Haha. XD
#1152 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy
#1153 [16:24] <Morrolan> Well, if people are stupid enough to buy it. :/
#1154 [16:24] <g> Well
#1155 [16:24] <g> it's legal, yea
#1156 [16:24] <g> what Morrolan
#1157 [16:24] <g> said*
#1158 [16:25] <Morrolan> I think it's the same as people selling only the package of a product on ebay.
#1159 [16:25] <g> mm.
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#1161 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Ah, he's selling compromised accounts
#1162 [16:25] <mib_jt22wk> So, i can sell Minecraft accounts, and it's legal? In other games it's restricted...
#1163 [16:25] <Morrolan> mib: Yea, I don't think you can do much about this, you could try to ask that site to take that down though.
#1164 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> "(So take into consideration that pospolite logins may be already occupied, so best to select a few and give them to us! "
#1165 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> google translated
#1166 [16:26] <g> hacked accounts
#1167 [16:26] <g> pssh
#1168 [16:26] <Morrolan> Oh, then it's not legal.
#1169 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1170 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_jt22wk - There's a reason Mojang posted the latest entry to their blog: http://mojang.com/
#1171 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> The only official, supported way of getting an account, is going directly through mojang
#1172 [16:27] <mib_jt22wk> No, no, no
#1173 [16:28] <g> No what?
#1174 [16:28] <mib_jt22wk> This guy wrotes on his auction "Those accounts are not activated, you can activate them with your own gift code"
#1175 [16:29] <mib_jt22wk> Btw, orry for my English :|
#1176 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> No, do you see what they're trying to do?
#1177 [16:30] <g> They're selling accounts, taking them back and selling them again
#1178 [16:30] <g> derp
#1179 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> You buy an account through them, they specify an email address for you to log inwith
#1180 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, what g said
#1181 [16:32] <Morrolan> Hehe, they're even advertising that you're able to play the classic version with these accounts. :D
#1182 [16:32] <mib_jt22wk> After winning the auction you have select your own login
#1183 [16:33] <Morrolan> Well, I guess it'd be best to contact that auction site to take it down.
#1184 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> mib_jt22wk: scam. It is a scam.
#1185 [16:33] <mib_jt22wk> So this guy cant take back your acc
#1186 [16:33] <mib_jt22wk> ok, thanks
#1187 [16:33] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#1188 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_jt22wk mc.net/resoldcodes
#1189 [16:33] <VoxelHead> mib_jt22wk: (mc.net/resoldcodes) It is not advisable to purchase Minecraft accounts or codes from third parties, even at a discount.
#1190 [16:33] <VoxelHead> mib_jt22wk: (mc.net/resoldcodes) See http://is.gd/Xxfrwj-
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#1195 [16:54] <TheNytangel> its here by friday!!!
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#1201 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> whoops
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#1203 [16:58] <fogWraith> O_o
#1204 [16:58] <AG_Scott> What a mean bot :(
#1205 [16:58] <fogWraith> VoxelHead you p33n
#1206 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Why didn't +e work?
#1207 [16:59] <AG_Scott> did you do +e *!*@allgamer.net?
#1208 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1209 [16:59] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1209 [17:00] * GreyVulpine pokes DopeGhoti
#1209 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> There shouldn't be a reason why that doesn't work, except Vox might not look at the exempt rules
#1210 [17:03] <AG_Scott> It should still let me join which is odd.
#1211 [17:04] <AG_Scott> it worked in #mcmyadmin so i don't understand
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#1213 [17:09] <Blackthorne|M> What is the smallest space a skeleton or spider can spawn in?
#1214 [17:09] <TheNytangel> your mom's vag
#1215 [17:10] <TheNytangel> lol i just had to say that
#1216 [17:10] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#1217 [17:10] <Blackthorne|M> Awesome joke man.
#1218 [17:10] <Blackthorne|M> You should be a comedian.
#1219 [17:11] <TheNytangel> what do you call a vegetarian with diarrhea?
#1220 [17:11] <TheNytangel> a salad shooter
#1221 [17:11] <Blackthorne|M> I was just kidding about the comedian thing.
#1222 [17:11] <TheNytangel> what's a pirates favorite letter?
#1223 [17:12] <relsqui> I'm not even gonna dignify that with an acknowledgement :P
#1224 [17:12] <TheNytangel> >.>
#1225 [17:12] <TheNytangel> how do you fit 100 babies into a bucket?
#1226 [17:12] <TheNytangel> a blender
#1227 [17:13] <TheNytangel> im on a roll
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#1230 [17:19] <TheNytangel> why did the chicken cross the road?
#1231 [17:19] <TheNytangel> weed eater.
#1232 [17:19] <TheNytangel> what does 2+2 equal?
#1233 [17:19] <TheNytangel> weed eater.
#1234 [17:21] <TheNytangel> where does the sheep go to get its hair cut?
#1235 [17:21] <TheNytangel> so he says, what are you talking about? thats not my dog
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#1238 [17:24] <TheNytangel> how do you sink a submarine full of peas?
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#1240 [17:24] <TheNytangel> your boat has not left the driveway in 20 years.
#1241 [17:25] <bluejello> I do not have a boat
#1242 [17:25] <TheNytangel> you missed the first part of the joke
#1243 [17:25] <TheNytangel> how do you sink a submarine full of peas?
#1244 [17:25] <TheNytangel> your boat has not left the driveway in 20 years.
#1245 [17:25] <bluejello> where is that from?
#1246 [17:25] * It pokes everyone
#1246 [17:25] <It> hello
#1247 [17:25] <TheNytangel> hello
#1248 [17:25] <bluejello> I remember seeing it somewhere...
#1249 [17:25] <TheNytangel> veggie tales
#1250 [17:25] <TheNytangel> wonderful world of autotanement
#1251 [17:26] <bluejello> so that was where I saw it.
#1252 [17:26] <TheNytangel> autotainment*
#1253 [17:26] <bluejello> We are in the future, it is white
#1254 [17:26] <TheNytangel> its been white since the 70s
#1255 [17:26] <bluejello> something along those lines.
#1256 [17:26] <bluejello> the tecno gord of the future
#1257 [17:26] <TheNytangel> i got the movie a couple years ago for easter
#1258 [17:26] <bluejello> and I am ahving speach problems
#1259 [17:26] <bluejello> er, typing problmens
#1260 [17:27] <TheNytangel> he was a tax collector in a tree, and i have a search protector in my knee
#1261 [17:28] <bluejello> yea...
#1262 [17:28] <bluejello> I love you *arf arf*
#1263 [17:28] <bluejello> having troubles getting this video to convert, not fun.
#1264 [17:28] <TheNytangel> gray-ee-crisp
#1265 [17:29] <bluejello> ok, is it just this computer, or is the video ending up with lines thorugh it...
#1266 [17:29] * bluejello pokes voxelhead
#1266 [17:30] <bluejello> he is turned off again?
#1267 [17:30] <bokaholic> You better turn him on.
#1268 [17:30] * bokaholic zings.
#1268 [17:30] * bluejello walks away for a minute
#1268 [17:30] <TheNytangel> bokaholic
#1269 [17:30] <TheNytangel> yo server is laggy
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#1272 [17:31] <bokaholic> It's not the server.
#1273 [17:31] <bokaholic> It's not laggy for everyone
#1274 [17:31] <g> bokaholic: How's the C++? :P
#1275 [17:31] <bokaholic> g
#1276 [17:31] <bokaholic> No time :P
#1277 [17:32] <g> :P
#1278 [17:32] <g> I know the feeling
#1279 [17:32] <bokaholic> I haven't had a chance to work on it
#1280 [17:32] <TheNytangel> i get my video card by friday :D
#1281 [17:32] <Jackson413> is kealper here
#1282 [17:33] <Jackson413> Kealper: you here man?
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#1284 [17:33] <Onus> Hello :)
#1285 [17:33] <TheNytangel> helllo
#1286 [17:33] <gPad2002> It's all good, bokaholic :P
#1287 [17:33] <gPad2002> Jackson413: Maybe. Can we help?
#1288 [17:33] <Onus> Anyone here, somewhat familiar with the IRC?
#1289 [17:33] <Jackson413> well
#1290 [17:34] <Jackson413> this is kinda for a mod
#1291 [17:34] <Jackson413> but mainly for someone that knows python
#1292 [17:34] <TheNytangel> yes Onus
#1293 [17:34] <gPad2002> I know python..
#1294 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Onus - What about it?
#1295 [17:34] <Jackson413> and nobody will help me with it
#1296 [17:34] <Jackson413> omg
#1297 [17:34] <Jackson413> can you help me convert something
#1298 [17:34] <Onus> I just want to set up a hostmask, so basically no one gets my personal information with the /whois command
#1299 [17:34] <gPad2002> That depends
#1300 [17:34] <Jackson413> it is this database
#1301 [17:34] <Jackson413> and i need to convert it with a python script
#1302 [17:34] <gPad2002> Onus: Bouncer and an RDNS
#1303 [17:34] <Jackson413> and it is on pastie.org
#1304 [17:35] <Onus> Hmm...
#1305 [17:35] <Jackson413> http://pastie.org/1584837
#1306 [17:35] <Onus> a bouncer?
#1307 [17:35] <gPad2002> Jackson413: What database type to what?
#1308 [17:35] <Kealper> rawr
#1309 [17:35] <Jackson413> i think it is .db
#1310 [17:35] <TheNytangel> Onus, also know as a BNC
#1311 [17:35] <Jackson413> this script does it for me
#1312 [17:35] <Jackson413> but i have no clue how to use it
#1313 [17:35] <gPad2002> Onus: Its like a proxy
#1314 [17:35] <Onus> Not too familiar with it...
#1315 [17:35] <gPad2002> Jackson413: Sec
#1316 [17:35] <Onus> Alright.
#1317 [17:35] <Onus> I'll try to set one up? I'm currently on Xchat
#1318 [17:36] <TheNytangel> O.o
#1319 [17:36] <Kealper> Onus: a BNC or a Bouncer is an IRC proxy program that runs on a different machine
#1320 [17:36] <gPad2002> Jackson413: python blah.py path/to/myhomes/database path/to/essentials/database
#1321 [17:36] <TheNytangel> have you tried mIRC?
#1322 [17:36] <Onus> nope.
#1323 [17:36] <Onus> Is it a downloadable program?
#1324 [17:36] <TheNytangel> yes
#1325 [17:36] <gPad2002> The client is irrelevant
#1326 [17:36] <Kealper> and you can not hide your information on this network
#1327 [17:36] <gPad2002> Kealper: Not without a bouncer at least
#1328 [17:36] <Jackson413> <3
#1329 [17:36] <Jackson413> ill try it
#1330 [17:37] <Onus> I just want no-one to know my I.P via IRC
#1331 [17:37] <TheNytangel> Onus, if you put that script in mIRC, it will work
#1332 [17:37] <gPad2002> Onus: I /could/ give you an account on mine..
#1333 [17:37] <Onus> what do you mean by could?
#1334 [17:37] <gPad2002> Please ignore TheNytangel, who clearly isn't doing their research
#1335 [17:37] <Onus> I'm currently on a mac, so that just adds to the head ache.
#1336 [17:37] <gPad2002> Thats not a problem
#1337 [17:37] <TheNytangel> >:o
#1338 [17:37] <TheNytangel> fine
#1339 [17:37] <TheNytangel> ill stick to jokes
#1340 [17:37] <Onus> Hahaha
#1341 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Onus, usually a BNC, costs money
#1342 [17:38] <gPad2002> No, that's not what my condition was
#1343 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> ie, you pay for access to a bouncer that lets you connect to it.
#1344 [17:38] <Onus> whats your condition?
#1345 [17:38] <gPad2002> My condition was that he doesn't try to spam with it
#1346 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Oh? What, sexual favors then?
#1347 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Aw.
#1348 [17:38] <gPad2002> Lol
#1349 [17:38] <Onus> Haha, no.
#1350 [17:38] <Onus> I'll tell you my situation
#1351 [17:38] <Onus> I'm a big gamer fan
#1352 [17:39] <Onus> But I was looked down upon back in my gamer days for being (immature and such)
#1353 [17:39] <LordEddi> then what the hell are you doing on a mac?
#1354 [17:39] <Onus> Haha
#1355 [17:39] <Onus> I play Minecraft and AssaultCube
#1356 [17:39] <LordEddi> Avid gamer ^^
#1357 [17:39] <Onus> anyways, I have been playing this game for some time
#1358 [17:39] <gPad2002> AssaultCube
#1359 [17:39] <Onus> yep.
#1360 [17:39] <gPad2002> Been a while since I heard that name
#1361 [17:40] <gPad2002> Read, whatever
#1362 [17:40] <Onus> So I was a bit more immature back then
#1363 [17:40] <Onus> so it just adds to the "looked down upon"
#1364 [17:40] <Onus> so I made a new account (a new life) and I've restarted
#1365 [17:40] <Onus> if anyone gets a hold of my IP, they'll know who I am
#1366 [17:40] <gPad2002> Hmm
#1367 [17:41] <Onus> The IRC, really benefits me.
#1368 [17:41] <aetherian> um
#1369 [17:41] * gPad2002 scratches his head
#1369 [17:41] * aetherian hastily copies IP for blackmail
#1369 [17:41] <gPad2002> How would one recognise an IP?
#1370 [17:41] <Kealper> it would be rather difficult to get your name from an IP
#1371 [17:41] <Jackson413> gPad2002: nada
#1372 [17:41] <gPad2002> Jackson413: I'll look in a few. That's just what the source suggest
#1373 [17:41] <Jackson413> do you use teamviewer
#1374 [17:41] <Kealper> the closest you can get with an IP is to the city it's in (without being a cop)
#1375 [17:41] <Onus> Kealper: I live in Florida, hardly anyone lives there
#1376 [17:42] <Jackson413> ill pm you my teamviewer details
#1377 [17:42] <gPad2002> I'm on an iPad bro
#1378 [17:42] <gPad2002> No teamviewer
#1379 [17:42] <Onus> Thus, fingers do point at me.
#1380 [17:42] <Kealper> actually.... you and 18.8 million other people live there :P
#1381 [17:42] <gPad2002> Onus: Well, I don't really mind what your story is
#1382 [17:42] <gPad2002> As long as you don't spam :P
#1383 [17:42] <Onus> Swear.
#1384 [17:42] <gPad2002> People tend to ban the IP from channels
#1385 [17:42] <gPad2002> Rather than the user
#1386 [17:43] <Onus> go on
#1387 [17:43] <Kealper> banning the username is usually semi-useless
#1388 [17:43] <Jackson413> gPad2002: could you download the app?
#1389 [17:43] <Kealper> as they could just change that :/
#1390 [17:43] <Onus> Theres a TeamViewe app?
#1391 [17:43] <gPad2002> Jackson413: Fuck, man, I said no.. Wait until I'm done here
#1392 [17:43] <Jackson413> hell yeah man
#1393 [17:43] <Jackson413> ok
#1394 [17:43] <gPad2002> Onus: Query me, I'll set you up
#1395 [17:43] <Onus> Sure thing
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#1397 [17:44] <Jackson413> hey kealper could you teamviewer me
#1398 [17:44] <Kealper> for?
#1399 [17:44] <Jackson413> u know python right?
#1400 [17:44] * VoxelHead is back
#1400 [17:44] <Kealper> not really
#1401 [17:44] <Jackson413> i think it is really simple
#1402 [17:44] <cesar0001> Minecraft Keeps crashing and i want to know why
#1403 [17:44] <Jackson413> but im a total noob
#1404 [17:44] <Kealper> it is quite simple, but i don't know the syntax, so i can't really do anything with it
#1405 [17:45] <aetherian> Jackson413: what did you need help with anywho
#1406 [17:45] <Jackson413> well basically im trying to convert something via a python script
#1407 [17:45] <Jackson413> and it wont work
#1408 [17:45] <Kealper> cesar0001: could you be a bit more specific?
#1409 [17:45] <Jackson413> or i dont know how to use it
#1410 [17:45] <Kealper> cesar0001: is there any error reports or anything?
#1411 [17:45] <aetherian> convert something...
#1412 [17:46] <Jackson413> aetherian do you teamview
#1413 [17:46] <cesar0001> Ok i have Window XP and i have bought minecraft in a couple of days and when i try to play it crashes
#1414 [17:46] <cesar0001> and it hanst worked at all since i bought it
#1415 [17:47] <aetherian> Jackson413: not often
#1416 [17:47] <Jackson413> do you have it installed?
#1417 [17:47] <Kealper> cesar0001: ok, that answered a few questions i may have had to ask lol
#1418 [17:47] <cesar0001> xD
#1419 [17:47] <Jackson413> i could just give you the details
#1420 [17:47] <Jackson413> i just have to run it
#1421 [17:47] <aetherian> fine
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#1423 [17:47] <Jackson413> im trying to do it via a bat file
#1424 [17:47] <Kealper> cesar0001: when it crashes, what happens? does it just get a black screen? does it close without doing anything? or does it got to a blue/purple screen that says Minecraft has crashed!
#1425 [17:47] <cesar0001> it just closes
#1426 [17:48] <aetherian> bat. wat.
#1427 [17:48] <Kealper> cesar0001: ok, when does it close? like...what is the last thing it does correctly before closing?
#1428 [17:48] <Kealper> aetherian: MS Batch
#1429 [17:49] <aetherian> Kealper: I know ._______.
#1430 [17:49] <Kealper> oh lol
#1431 [17:49] <cesar0001> i log in and a green bar loads really fast and then it closes with no error message or anything
#1432 [17:49] <cesar0001> i have been here before they said it was of java but i have reinstalled java
#1433 [17:49] <Kealper> cesar0001: ok, are you playing the downloaded client or the in-browser one?
#1434 [17:49] <ryang> I've just started new minecraft game and there is only about 2 trees. How do I grow more trees?
#1435 [17:49] <VoxelHead> r
#1436 [17:50] <progme> ryang: plant them
#1437 [17:50] <cesar0001> no
#1438 [17:50] <Kealper> ryang: cut down the few trees and hope you get some saplings lol
#1439 [17:50] <Kealper> cesar0001: no what? O.o
#1440 [17:50] <ryang> plant them on grass?
#1441 [17:50] <cesar0001> i dont think so cuz something else opos up
#1442 [17:50] <progme> ryang: preferably
#1443 [17:50] <cesar0001> and not on the browser
#1444 [17:50] <ryang> thank you
#1445 [17:51] <progme> ryang: i have never tried planting on sand/desert areas
#1446 [17:51] <progme> ryang: b/c i dont think it would work
#1447 [17:51] <Kealper> cesar0001: oh...play it in the browser, get to the point when it messes up, then leave it open and tell me
#1448 [17:51] <progme> work = grow
#1449 [17:51] <cesar0001> ok tnonhing on the screen just the gray bckround
#1450 [17:52] <cesar0001> background*
#1451 [17:52] <Kealper> cesar0001: O.o
#1452 [17:52] <cesar0001> is there a way u can see my computer?
#1453 [17:52] <Kealper> cesar0001: i'd have to agree with whoever you talked to the last time, that is definately a problem with Java
#1454 [17:52] <cesar0001> hmm
#1455 [17:52] <Kealper> cesar0001: yes, it is called TeamViewer
#1456 [17:53] <cesar0001> ok
#1457 [17:53] <cesar0001> i tell u here or private?
#1458 [17:53] <Kealper> did you want to give that a try and i can see if i could fix it?
#1459 [17:53] <Kealper> private
#1460 [17:53] <Onus> Kaelper: your names seems oftely familiar..
#1461 [17:54] <Onus> sounds*
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#1463 [17:55] <Saykazay> Hey, I'm getting a black screen instead of the Mojang logo, it's been happening since 1.4, any known fixes?
#1464 [17:55] <Saykazay> I'm on Windows 7, 64 bit.
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#1466 [17:57] <Saykazay> Any known fixes?
#1467 [17:57] <Saykazay> Hey, I'm getting a black screen instead of the Mojang logo, it's been happening since 1.4, any known fixes?
#1468 [17:57] <Saykazay> Been going at this for a week now
#1469 [17:58] <Onus> Does it crash?
#1470 [17:58] <Saykazay> no.
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#1472 [17:58] <Saykazay> well, maybe it does eventually. Lemme see...
#1473 [17:58] <dhave> force update
#1474 [17:58] <Saykazay> didn't work.
#1475 [17:58] <Saykazay> I tried
#1476 [17:59] <Saykazay> yeah, it doesn't crash, just goes to a black screen, even after the force update.
#1477 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: testing the exemption for you
#1478 [18:00] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: if you get kicked, oops and will be fixed presently
#1479 [18:00] <Saykazay> And it isn't a driver issue, Portal 2 will run perfectly.
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#1484 [18:03] <Onus> So you can't play the game at all?
#1485 [18:03] <Saykazay> http://i.imgur.com/aBYtg.png Here is a screenie
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#1488 [18:03] <Onus> I suggest you look around the minecraft bug 1.4 thread
#1489 [18:03] <Saykazay> looking
#1490 [18:03] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :~(
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#1495 [18:08] <Saykazay> It won't let me play on my browser either, and I can't find the said thread Onus
#1496 [18:08] <Onus> Weird...
#1497 [18:09] <mitpatterson> grrr, i can never rremember the command to update the minecraft server .jar on linux
#1498 [18:09] <Saykazay> It'll run on my Snow Leopard partition, so I know it isn't a video card driver issue.
#1499 [18:09] <Saykazay> I mean a video card issue
#1500 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> sweet.
#1501 [18:09] <Saykazay> It worked perfectly for a while.
#1502 [18:10] <VoxelHead> sweeeeeeeeeeeeet.
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#1505 [18:10] <Saykazay> what's sweeeet?
#1506 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> suggessful protection of AG_*'s nickspace
#1507 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> also successful
#1508 [18:10] <Saykazay> ah
#1509 [18:10] <mitpatterson> anyone wanta help me with that command? (to update my .jar on linux....
#1510 [18:11] <Saykazay> THIS IS INSANE. SRIVING ME CRAZY!
#1511 [18:12] <Onus> Haha, just wait a little. Someones (who knows what they're doing) will help you...
#1512 [18:12] <mitpatterson> yah, all i need is to is download and replace the .jar i just fail at doing so, lmao
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#1514 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> what version of Sun java- 1.6 or 1.7? (the correct answer is 1.6)
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#1516 [18:30] <Blackthorne|M> If I make wheat crops can the water run under them?
#1517 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> Blackthorne|M: it can run under the dirt block upon which they grow, yes.
#1518 [18:31] <Blackthorne|M> Thanks.
#1519 [18:32] <zaery> Dopeghoti: I don't know, synaptic says i've got version 6.24-1build10.10.1
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#1521 [18:36] <Awordofcaution> hi guys. got an issue with running MC in fullscreen. i hit f11 and it goes fullscreen, flashes black then goes back windowed
#1522 [18:36] <Awordofcaution> refuses to stay fullscreen at all
#1523 [18:38] <lemon-rev> Awordofcaution what about just streching the window bar to full screen ?
#1524 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> zaery: use update-alternatives to switch to sun java, and then java -version again
#1525 [18:38] <Awordofcaution> dowhatnow dope?
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#1528 [18:41] <Awordofcaution> dope?
#1529 [18:41] <doop> Hi, I have a quick question
#1530 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> doop ask
#1531 [18:41] <VoxelHead> doop: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1532 [18:41] <VoxelHead> doop: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1533 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> Awordofcaution: not sure about your problem.
#1534 [18:41] <mitpatterson> hey, can anyone give me the comman for linus to update my server? i can't recall (mabey DopeGhoti )
#1535 [18:41] <Awordofcaution> oh my bad. i thought ur reply about using update-alternatives was to me
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#1537 [18:42] <VoxelHead> i like them :)
#1538 [18:42] <doop> background: windows 7 64 bit, i5, nvidia graphics. problem: minecraft occasionally wont load for me, and instead just shows black and grey bars once I get past the login portal
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#1540 [18:42] <Austin> Hi
#1541 [18:43] <doop> ive gotten an updated my .exe and deleted the appdata in roaming, neither helped
#1542 [18:43] <zaery> dopeghoti: it's 1.6.0_24
#1543 [18:43] <doop> this problem comes up every once in a while, but sometimes it just randomally stopped
#1544 [18:43] <Austin> Anyone here have a mac? I have an issue with playing.
#1545 [18:44] <doop> does anyone have experience with this "black bar" issue
#1546 [18:44] <zaery> mitpatterson: delete the previous server then "wget http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1303857823997"
#1547 [18:44] <mitpatterson> k zaery and what do i do to delete the old one? and will that download be nammed minecraft_server.jar or will it have the v# attached?
#1548 [18:45] <Austin> How do I play the free version on localhost?
#1549 [18:45] <Austin> [Mac]
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#1551 [18:45] <mitpatterson> Austin, you mean the classic verson?
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#1553 [18:46] <Austin> Yes
#1554 [18:46] <icon2020> hellllp :p
#1555 [18:46] <icon2020> how do i get registered to send to #minecraft?
#1556 [18:47] <mitpatterson> icon2020, Register your nickname to talk. /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
#1557 [18:47] <doop> guys any help?
#1558 [18:47] <icon2020> ok ty
#1559 [18:47] <umbridge> anyone every come across an issue with minecraft refusing to stay fullscreen before?
#1560 [18:48] <zaery> mitpatterson "rm minecraft_server.jar" and actually, use "wget http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar", i dunno where the ?v= came from
#1561 [18:48] <zaery> doop: update your video drivers? other than that, i dunno
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#1563 [18:48] <doop> they are updated
#1564 [18:49] <Austin> Help??
#1565 [18:49] <It> doop? are you doopbot?
#1566 [18:49] <umbridge> this is mad frustrating. it has only just started happening and i cant find any other reference to it online
#1567 [18:50] <umbridge> unique problem FTL
#1568 [18:50] <doop> noh im no tanyone known as doopbot
#1569 [18:50] <Blackthorne|M> What causes the invisible fence bug?
#1570 [18:50] <It> ok
#1571 [18:50] <It> speaking of a word of caution has anyone been wondering why the psn is down?
#1572 [18:50] <mitpatterson> it it was hacked, your credit info is not safe
#1573 [18:51] <Blackthorne|M> Probably anonymous again.
#1574 [18:51] <mitpatterson> it http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/sony-admits-utter-psn-failure-your-personal-data-has-been-stolen.ars
#1575 [18:51] <It> lol
#1576 [18:51] <It> glad I don't have a sony anything
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#1579 [18:59] <gPad2002> Hm
#1580 [18:59] <gPad2002> That does not bode well
#1581 [18:59] <AkiTensai> But I want my Portal on PC from my PS3 qq >.>
#1582 [19:02] <It> it probably wasnt anonymous
#1583 [19:02] <It> they haven't owned up to it, and they usually do
#1584 [19:02] <It> even when they hack governments and stuf
#1585 [19:03] <AkiTensai> They do like taking credit for their activities.
#1586 [19:03] <It> remember that time they attacked hacked scientology live during an interview?
#1587 [19:04] <It> no, it wasnt scientology, it was the wbc
#1588 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> I thought scientology set it up
#1589 [19:04] <It> stupid me
#1590 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> or, wbc, whatever
#1591 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't a real attack
#1592 [19:04] <It> they may have but still why do that
#1593 [19:04] <gPad2002> Anonymous have said it wasn't them
#1594 [19:04] <It> ag_scott
#1595 [19:04] <VoxelHead> bye Pulec
#1596 [19:05] <It> its not really nsfw, did you actually look at it
#1597 [19:05] <gPad2002> vox, shut up
#1598 [19:05] <VoxelHead> nnk
#1599 [19:05] <AG_Scott> Yes.
#1600 [19:05] <It> do you have an adblocker
#1601 [19:05] <It> also the article itself is fine
#1602 [19:05] <AG_Scott> yes and they were displayed through it
#1603 [19:05] <AG_Scott> anyways doesn't matter
#1604 [19:06] <It> when unbanned
#1605 [19:06] <AG_Scott> I don't know yet.
#1606 [19:06] * It doesn't think that was strictly necessary
#1606 [19:06] <It> especially because the ads are dynamic and vary, and i did post a warning
#1607 [19:07] <AG_Scott> It doesn't matter if you say it's NSFW or not. Such content is not allowed.
#1608 [19:07] <AG_Scott> and this isn't the channel for it.
#1609 [19:07] <AG_Scott> If you wish to complain PM me or post on the #minecraft IRC forum.
#1610 [19:07] <It> ... just tell me when I'm unbanned
#1611 [19:08] <It> I can (and probably should) do without it for a day or 2
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#1613 [19:09] <diske> need help with payment, got and transaction error when used my cc
#1614 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> diske - Try using paypal
#1615 [19:10] <diske> ye, but too late
#1616 [19:10] <diske> been charged
#1617 [19:10] <gPad2002> mollstam: ^
#1618 [19:10] <diske> sent an mail to payment@mojang.com with my info
#1619 [19:10] <diske> dont know how quick they are there
#1620 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Then all you can do now is wait
#1621 [19:11] <Onus> gpad2002: this thing works like a charm!
#1622 [19:11] <Onus> ;)
#1623 [19:11] <gPad2002> :P
#1624 [19:11] <gPad2002> No prob
#1625 [19:11] <diske> ok, then I'll wait :P
#1626 [19:11] <diske> thanks
#1627 [19:11] <It> well ffuuuu
#1628 [19:11] <It> not cool
#1629 [19:12] * It was banned from #minecraft for posting a sankakucomplex article about sony
#1629 [19:12] <It> grumble
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#1631 [19:13] <Jessie> Hello
#1632 [19:13] * It is not in the mood
#1632 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1633 [19:13] <Jessie> I was just wondering how people in America would buy the game?
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#1635 [19:13] <It> paypal
#1636 [19:14] <Jessie> It automatically converts?
#1637 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1638 [19:14] <It> which does currency conversion automatically i think
#1639 [19:14] <gPad2002> It: Did you say you knew C++?
#1640 [19:14] <Jessie> Oh okay, i had heard that but i wasnt sure
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#1642 [19:14] * It does know c++
#1642 [19:14] <gPad2002> The base bot is done now
#1643 [19:14] <Jessie> Thank you :) Bye bye
#1644 [19:14] <gPad2002> If you want in, let me know
#1645 [19:14] <It> src?
#1646 [19:15] <gPad2002> It's not up yet, I'll be doing that tomorrow
#1647 [19:15] <It> ok
#1648 [19:15] * It loves stuff like this
#1648 [19:15] <gPad2002> I'll tell you what you'll need if you want to compile it
#1649 [19:15] <gPad2002> Qt 4.7 and libircclient-qt
#1650 [19:16] <gPad2002> :P
#1651 [19:16] <It> gpad, what was that potato account from your address repeatedly connecting the other day?
#1652 [19:16] <gPad2002> tyteen4a03
#1653 [19:16] <gPad2002> Another bouncer user
#1654 [19:16] <It> it was repeatedly connecting then getting flood dc'd
#1655 [19:16] <VoxelHead> I like them :o)
#1656 [19:16] <gPad2002> Yeah
#1657 [19:16] <gPad2002> I fixed it
#1658 [19:16] <gPad2002> (I think)
#1659 [19:16] <It> well I have to go
#1660 [19:16] <It> bbl
#1661 [19:16] <gPad2002> He put too much in *perform or something
#1662 [19:17] <gPad2002> K tty
#1663 [19:17] <gPad2002> L*
#1664 [19:17] <VoxelHead> Bye Onus.
#1665 [19:18] <gPad2002> vox, stfu
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#1667 [19:24] <third> anyone here have issues with nvidia graphics cards and if so is there a solution to crashes?
#1668 [19:24] <lemon-rev> what type of crash you getting third
#1669 [19:26] <third> the screen goes blank and when it comes back up a error is displayed saying the driver has stopped working and recovered. i've reinstalled the driver and messed with the in-game settings to no avail
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#1671 [19:27] <lemon-rev> is this the first time its happend ?
#1672 [19:27] <lemon-rev> and can you try to run broswer version in minecraft.net < site
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#1674 [19:27] <third> no- i've searched this error and it seems to happen only with nvidia cards
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#1676 [19:27] <mininessie> i can't login to minecraft
#1677 [19:27] <xales> mininessie: why can't you?
#1678 [19:28] <lemon-rev> third i have a nvidia what card is yours ?
#1679 [19:28] <third> one sec i'll look it up
#1680 [19:28] <mininessie> xales: idk i use the client and login and it says logging in and hanging there
#1681 [19:28] <xales> mininessie: try in the browser
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#1683 [19:28] <mininessie> xales: can't log in their either
#1684 [19:29] <xales> mininessie: what does it say?
#1685 [19:29] <mininessie> xales: on the website
#1686 [19:29] <mininessie> ?
#1687 [19:29] <xales> yes
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#1689 [19:29] <mininessie> xales: well its acting likes its trying to load it
#1690 [19:30] <mininessie> but nothing and is still loading
#1691 [19:30] <xales> ??> mininessie win/reinst
#1692 [19:30] <VoxelHead> mininessie: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1693 [19:30] <VoxelHead> mininessie: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1694 [19:31] <third> alright- its a nvidia nvs 3100 m
#1695 [19:31] <xales> there's your problem
#1696 [19:31] <xales> that card...is extremely old
#1697 [19:31] <xales> there is no way in hell it could play Minecraft
#1698 [19:31] <third> ouch
#1699 [19:31] <VoxelHead> awww
#1700 [19:31] <VoxelHead> poor third
#1701 [19:31] <mininessie> VoxelHead: i already did that and there is nothing in the .minecraft folder now
#1702 [19:31] <xales> mininessie: VoxelHead is a bot ._.
#1703 [19:32] <VoxelHead> LIES, ALL LIES
#1704 [19:32] <VoxelHead> unless a witness steps forward
#1705 [19:32] <third> lol well it has no problem with anything else- portal, etc..... but minecraft? >.<
#1706 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> ??requirements
#1707 [19:32] <lemon-rev> PhysX capable No No
#1708 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> ?? requirements
#1709 [19:32] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#1710 [19:32] <N> Minecraft is really re-
#1711 [19:32] <lemon-rev> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvs_techspecs.html < third
#1712 [19:33] <third> ouch
#1713 [19:33] <mininessie> god is minecraft down or what xales
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#1715 [19:34] <xales> mininessie: no, it's not
#1716 [19:34] <xales> it's a problem with your account or computer (much more likely the latter)
#1717 [19:34] <third> i've got a good system except that graphics card. what a pain- its a laptop too. pain pain pain
#1718 [19:34] <mininessie> xales: i played minecraft on this computer last night and it was fine
#1719 [19:35] <lemon-rev> third can you play via the broswer ?
#1720 [19:35] <xales> mininessie: that doesn't really matter, because it's obviously not find now
#1721 [19:35] <xales> fine*
#1722 [19:35] <lemon-rev> bbl
#1723 [19:36] <third> lemon-rev: i habent tried browser in a while, it may take a bit to see if i run into the same problem. i'll try that for now and look into a new graphics card long-term
#1724 [19:39] <mininessie> well this sucks
#1725 [19:39] <third> could anyone suggest an inexpensive card (relatively speaking) that would be a good upgrade?
#1726 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> What kind of motherboard do you have?
#1727 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a legacy AGP port, or the newer PCIe, does your system support double-wide cards, or can you only get away with single?
#1728 [19:41] <third> i'm looking in my hardware list but i'm not sure where it would be listed?
#1729 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> It.. wouldn't be
#1730 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Got a name/model of the motherboard?
#1731 [19:42] <third> feh alright i'll be back
#1732 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Or is this a custom-built rig?
#1733 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> (or use CPU-Z)
#1734 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Or that
#1735 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> (or beter, lshw (: )
#1736 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> What's that other CPU-Z one, which lists all the specs
#1737 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> speccy?
#1738 [19:42] <mininessie> xales: would you try to login into my accoutn if i gave you my username and password
#1739 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> not sure; CPU-Z has always been sufficient for my needs when booted to Windows.
#1740 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, same
#1741 [19:44] <xales> third: if it's a laptop, you will not be able to replace the graphics card
#1742 [19:45] <mininessie> xales: would you try to login into my accoutn if i gave you my username and password
#1743 [19:45] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: Yeah, speccy
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#1750 [19:50] <Justmedjc> HI can anyone help me?
#1751 [19:50] <LordTrevor> Depends on the nature of your need.
#1752 [19:50] <third> yeah its a laptop and its lenovo 2522dy1
#1753 [19:50] <mininessie> Justmedjc: no
#1754 [19:51] <mininessie> xales: you there
#1755 [19:51] <Justmedjc> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread at java.lang.Thread.start0(Native Method) at java.lang.Thread.start(Unknown Source) at cd.a(SourceFile:184) at vy.d(SourceFile:218) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.j(SourceFile:1119) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(SourceFile:694) at
#1756 [19:51] <Justmedjc> Not sure whats happening here. Looked up the error, no solutions. -.-
#1757 [19:51] <LordTrevor> Well you have posed no question.
#1758 [19:51] <xales> Justmedjc: How much RAM does your computer have?
#1759 [19:52] <Justmedjc> Xales: Enough? was upgraded for gaming in the past.
#1760 [19:53] <xales> Justmedjc: That error means you do not have enough :)
#1761 [19:53] <xales> Specifically, how much do you have?
#1762 [19:53] <ryang> Do I need to smelt iron ore to get iron ingots?
#1763 [19:53] <third> yes
#1764 [19:53] <ryang> okay thanks
#1765 [19:54] <third> np ryang
#1766 [19:54] <xales> Justmedjc: Also, if your computer had to be upgraded, it's possibly deficient in other areas as well
#1767 [19:54] <Justmedjc> xales: 2046MB
#1768 [19:55] <third> alright i will be going as i believe i have been abandoned to my doom haha
#1769 [19:55] <VoxelHead> i have already stuffed my normal human belly with delicious human filth that i could not eat another bite
#1770 [19:56] <xales> Justmedjc: Do you have any other applications open?
#1771 [19:57] <Justmedjc> Xales: When i play? No, Not that i'm aware of, i usually gamebooster my stuff. and it still happens.
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#1773 [19:57] <xales> Justmedjc: Are you running it in the browser?
#1774 [19:57] <Justmedjc> Xales: NO
#1775 [19:57] <Justmedjc> No*
#1776 [19:57] <xales> Try it in the browser
#1777 [19:58] <TheNytangel> yay!
#1778 [19:58] <TheNytangel> bukkit has been updated!
#1779 [19:59] <Justmedjc> Xales: I cannot use my mods that i've made formyself then, And it just started happening after 1.5_1
#1780 [20:00] <xales> Oh, mods... ._.
#1781 [20:00] <xales> ??> Justmedjc win/reinst
#1782 [20:00] <VoxelHead> Justmedjc: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1783 [20:00] <VoxelHead> Justmedjc: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1784 [20:00] <xales> It's most likely a problem with the mods
#1785 [20:00] <xales> anyway, I have to go :|
#1786 [20:01] <Justmedjc> o.o
#1787 [20:01] <Justmedjc> Ill try it soon enough.
#1788 [20:01] <Justmedjc> But Xales: It does it on vannila too.
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#1790 [20:10] <bokaholic> Anyone know any good sites to find good survival maps to play?
#1791 [20:10] <VoxelHead> Mmm barrycarlyon.
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#1793 [20:12] <lemon-rev> bokaholic try minecraft fourms
#1794 [20:12] <bokaholic> Hmm
#1795 [20:12] <bokaholic> M'kay
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#1801 [20:19] <bokaholic> SO, question.. What's the difference between minecraft survival maps you download, and Survival Minecraft Servers..?
#1802 [20:19] <bokaholic> WOuldn't, with server, you be playing with a shit ton of other people?
#1803 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1804 [20:19] <bokaholic> Hmm..
#1805 [20:19] <bokaholic> I don't really want to be playing with a ton of other people.
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#1807 [20:22] <bokaholic> Joining a survivl map on a server doesn't seem like it would work out. If people already completed the goals and stuff...
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#1809 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> A surivial server isn't necessarily doing a surivial-type single player map
#1810 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> It can be just a plain map, where people do whatever, doesn't need to be a custom built map with goals
#1811 [20:22] <bokaholic> We just have a few friends we want to do a couple maps with for fun.
#1812 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> bokaholic: also, not not necessarily in cometition in SMP
#1813 [20:23] <bokaholic> Ohhh.
#1814 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> there just happen to be zomies &c
#1815 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> hence the 'S'
#1816 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> All a survival server is, is a beta map, with monsters turned on.
#1817 [20:23] <bokaholic> Is there another anem I should be searching for? The maps with goals and stuff to do while surviving?
#1818 [20:23] <bokaholic> Name*
#1819 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> I'm not aware of those types of servers.
#1820 [20:23] <bokaholic> Downloadable maps, not servers.
#1821 [20:24] <bokaholic> We'd upload the map to our server.
#1822 [20:24] <bokaholic> FOr us and our friend to play.
#1823 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> I guess...
#1824 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=91726
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#1826 [20:25] <VoxelHead> Bye lordtrevor.
#1827 [20:25] <bokaholic> Adventure maps.
#1828 [20:25] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1829 [20:25] <bokaholic> I'm not really dumb. I just had no clue. ;D
#1830 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> It's either that, or puzzle maps
#1831 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> And I don't think you're aiming for the latter
#1832 [20:26] <bokaholic> Oooo. Puzzle maps.
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#1834 [20:26] <curmet> how do i name my ip for a server?
#1835 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> http://lmgtfy.com?q=DNS
#1836 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> curmet - Buy a domain name, set the cname to point to your IP
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#1838 [20:29] <relsqui> or get a free dns redirect with something like dyndns
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#1840 [20:30] <mininessie> everything is up to date and yet i can't log into minecraft
#1841 [20:31] <mininessie> help
#1842 [20:31] <VoxelHead> mmm Kurimus
#1843 [20:32] <ryang> how do I make water stop runing?
#1844 [20:32] <mininessie> everything is up to date and yet i can't log into minecraft
#1845 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> mininessie - Why can't you?
#1846 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> What happens when you try?
#1847 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> ryang: fluids flow a maximum of seven blocks from the source if there is no vertical drop
#1848 [20:34] <ryang> okay thanks
#1849 [20:34] <mininessie> GreyVulpine: i log into the minecraft site and when i click log in after i put in my username and password its loading but does not load load hanging and when i use the client i click login and it hangs saying logging in
#1850 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> ryang: If there is a vertical drop; have it flow into a pit which will contain the secondary flow.
#1851 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> mininessie win/hosts
#1852 [20:34] <VoxelHead> mininessie: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1853 [20:34] <VoxelHead> mininessie: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
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#1855 [20:35] <mininessie> DopeGhoti: already did that
#1856 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> mininessie - And have you given us the URL?
#1857 [20:36] <mininessie> http://pastebin.com/bziwCw7S
#1858 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> mininessie win/profile
#1859 [20:37] <VoxelHead> mininessie: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1860 [20:37] <VoxelHead> mininessie: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#1862 [20:38] <VoxelHead> bye CoZmicShReddeR
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#1864 [20:43] <mininessie> DopeGhoti: failed with new user
#1865 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> so the problem is systemwide.
#1866 [20:44] <mininessie> DopeGhoti: ?? can't log in
#1867 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> Any firewall, proxy, or other security software on the system?
#1868 [20:44] <mininessie> ?? can't log in
#1869 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> Any firewall, proxy, or other security software on the system?
#1870 [20:45] <mininessie> idk
#1871 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> you.. don't know? Isn't it your computer?
#1872 [20:45] <mininessie> firewall off
#1873 [20:45] <VoxelHead> firewall off... foff
#1874 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> which firewall is it?
#1875 [20:46] <mininessie> home networks and public networks off
#1876 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> haven't heard of that one, Awkward name.
#1877 [20:47] <mininessie> DopeGhoti: its windows 7
#1878 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> ah, so just the built-in firewall. Gotcha.
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#1880 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> Well, the fact that you still cannot log in even on a new user account means the problem is with either your system as a whole, or your network connection.
#1881 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> Do you have another computer you can test with?
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#1883 [20:49] <mininessie> DopeGhoti: possibly but not at the moment
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#1885 [20:49] <curmet> where can i find a list of dedicated minecraft servers?
#1886 [20:50] <Razorflame> The darkwood trees are normally found in the snowy biomes, right? (pine trees)
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#1894 [21:24] <VoxelHead> Master, where did you go? I cant see you.
#1895 [21:24] <bread> I'm right here vox!
#1896 [21:25] <aetherian> I'm right here, vox.
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#1898 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> As am I
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#1903 [21:41] <Vector> Voxel, shove a tin can up your cylinder.
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#1906 [21:43] <Vector> hm
#1907 [21:43] <bread> vox, courtmartial Vector
#1908 [21:43] * VoxelHead throws Vector in the brig to await charges
#1908 [21:43] <Vector> NO
#1909 [21:43] * Vector struggles to break free from the brig, and manages to somehow escape
#1909 [21:44] <bread> lies
#1910 [21:44] <Vector> My cousin is a cake.
#1911 [21:44] <VoxelHead> Vector, you are charged with attempting to replicate a Targ, and having sex on Tasha Yar
#1912 [21:44] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#1913 [21:44] <Vector> I just lol'd in real life
#1914 [21:44] <bread> xD
#1915 [21:44] <Vector> that bot is just... wow
#1916 [21:44] <bread> Vox is amazing <3
#1917 [21:46] <Vector> yep <3
#1918 [21:46] <Vector> Vox, heal!
#1919 [21:47] <Vector> heel*
#1920 [21:47] <Vector> Vox, heel!
#1921 [21:47] <Vector> why won't he listen to me
#1922 [21:47] <Vector> Vox, answer me, stupid piece of tin can.
#1923 [21:48] <bread> :o
#1924 [21:49] <VoxelHead> Great scott!
#1925 [21:49] <bread> vox, fire everything at Vector
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#1927 [21:49] <VoxelHead> Don't be so silly. Sir.
#1928 [21:49] <bread> :o
#1929 [21:49] <VoxelHead> well blow me down
#1930 [21:50] * bread blows vox down.
#1930 [21:50] <VoxelHead> I do love a good blowsing.
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#1932 [21:54] * VoxelHead is away: tea
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#1933 [21:55] <Jackson413> hey all
#1934 [21:55] * VoxelHead returns
#1934 [21:55] <Jackson413> say i wanted to learn java
#1935 [21:55] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1936 [21:55] <Jackson413> where do i start
#1937 [21:56] <xales> Buy a book
#1938 [21:56] <Jackson413> can you recommend one?
#1939 [21:58] <xales> Not really
#1940 [21:58] <Jackson413> and i know this might make you groan, but what program do you recommend writing java with
#1941 [21:58] <xales> I don't
#1942 [21:59] <xales> Java sucks, horribly
#1943 [21:59] <Jackson413> why?
#1944 [21:59] <bokaholic> is there a way to turn up mob difficulty in a multiplayer level?
#1945 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> bokaholic - Nope
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#1947 [21:59] <bokaholic> Okay :)
#1948 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - I'd recommend eclipse.
#1949 [21:59] <xales> It's inefficient, slow, the APIs are horrific, it's not possible to write clean code with it...
#1950 [21:59] <xales> the list goes on
#1951 [21:59] <Jackson413> is that really true?
#1952 [21:59] <xales> it really is
#1953 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Many college classes also use something called BlueJ
#1954 [22:00] <xales> I highly suggest starting with Python over Java
#1955 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> But yes, I agree with xales on that
#1956 [22:00] <Jackson413> ok where do i start with that?
#1957 [22:00] <xales> one sec, getting a link
#1958 [22:00] <xales> http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
#1959 [22:00] <Jackson413> i know im not gonna be like my friend mubasil that basterd learned java in 2 weeks
#1960 [22:01] <TheRevTastic> What would be the reason for my Minecraft keep getting a black screen? I have tried installing some mods that I already had installed, but upgraded to 1.5_01, no matter what mod I install by itself I get a black screen. This didn't happen the first time I reinstalled the mod(s) after upgrading, just now.
#1961 [22:01] <aetherian> THEN...
#1962 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> TheRevTastic - Mods that aren't compatible with 1.5 will black screen
#1963 [22:01] <aetherian> precisely
#1964 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Can you try deleting the bin folder, start fresh
#1965 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> See if you get a blackscreen then?
#1966 [22:02] <TheRevTastic> Well I tried installing Flans Plane mod which is capatable, I know as he updated his thread and it worked right after upgrading, but after trying to instal OptiFog it goes black screen.
#1967 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Each time minecraft updates, it breaks mods. Mod creators need to update their mods individually
#1968 [22:02] <TheRevTastic> I have even delted the .minecraft folder and tried.
#1969 [22:02] <Jackson413> say i dont know C either
#1970 [22:02] <Jackson413> is that easy to learn
#1971 [22:02] <xales> No, it's not
#1972 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried deleting .minecraft, and not installing a mod
#1973 [22:02] <xales> learn Python first
#1974 [22:02] <TheRevTastic> Yes I have, it didn't black screen then.
#1975 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Then it's a mod that's not updated right, or you're not installing a mod correctly
#1976 [22:03] <Jackson413> modding minecraft is retarded
#1977 [22:03] <TheRevTastic> Well I have installed this mod many times before :P, and I even went back over it after deleting the .minecraft folder just to make sure I did it right.
#1978 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Beyond that, I can't really help you. Too many combinations of mods available to really give support for it
#1979 [22:04] <Jackson413> minecraft mods are retarded also
#1980 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Easy there Jackson413.
#1981 [22:04] <Jackson413> you dont think so?
#1982 [22:04] <Jackson413> or "stop trolling"
#1983 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> People install mods at their own risk, it adds functionality that they think minecraft needs, so they're willing to take that risk
#1984 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> I have no opinion on it, whatsoever.
#1985 [22:05] <Jackson413> i think that a favorite servers list would be handy
#1986 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> You and hundreds of other people
#1987 [22:05] <Jackson413> is there one?
#1988 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1989 [22:05] <Jackson413> damn
#1990 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> You can make one though, have a batch file or two that point to a server you want to connect to
#1991 [22:06] <Jackson413> and also xales, why is minecraft written in java
#1992 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> It's what Notch is familiar with
#1993 [22:06] <Jackson413> thats it?
#1994 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> And it gives cross-platform compatibility
#1995 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Program in java, run in windows/mac/linux/whatever OS that java can be installed on
#1996 [22:07] <Jackson413> wht does C do compatibilitywise?
#1997 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the compiler.
#1998 [22:07] <Jackson413> what is compiling lol
#1999 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> The process of converting, If (x=0) Do this
#2000 [22:07] <xales> C is not a portable language whatsoever
#2001 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> To machine code that the computer can understand
#2002 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Not all processing architecture process those instructions the same way
#2003 [22:08] <xales> Fun fact: if(x==0) is converted to jz by gcc :3
#2004 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> C is a very unforgiving language.
#2005 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> It's very type-specific, very rigid.
#2006 [22:11] <Jackson413> isnt there something that is compatable like java but better?
#2007 [22:11] <Jackson413> is there a more basic language than python
#2008 [22:12] <xales> You don't want to learn a "basic" language first
#2009 [22:12] <xales> if by "basic" you mean, "low level"
#2010 [22:12] <Jackson413> like i know html, css, javascript, and some php
#2011 [22:12] <Jackson413> that is all i know
#2012 [22:12] <xales> Try Python then
#2013 [22:12] <Jackson413> i will then
#2014 [22:13] <Jackson413> what to i write python in?
#2015 [22:13] <xales> What do you mean?
#2016 [22:14] <Jackson413> like what program
#2017 [22:14] <Jackson413> (sorry didnt really expediate lol)
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#2019 [22:15] <Jackson413> and i dont understand what compiling is
#2020 [22:15] <xales> There is no "standard" program to use as an editor
#2021 [22:15] <xales> and don't bother, you really don't need to for languages like Python
#2022 [22:15] <Jackson413> well what do most people user
#2023 [22:15] <xales> there is nothing that most people use
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#2025 [22:15] <xales> you probably want to use PyDev with Eclipse, however
#2026 [22:15] <xales> http://pydev.org/
#2027 [22:15] <VoxelHead> can i ask the audience?
#2028 [22:16] <Jackson413> what is this eclipse?
#2029 [22:16] <Jackson413> is it expensive?
#2030 [22:16] <xales> Eclipse is an IDE, and no
#2031 [22:16] <xales> it's free
#2032 [22:16] <Jackson413> wow
#2033 [22:16] <Jackson413> the world is a nice place
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#2035 [22:17] <aetherian> free AND open source :D
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#2038 [22:21] <muffins558> hi?
#2039 [22:21] <xales> Hello
#2040 [22:22] <muffins558> i need help
#2041 [22:22] <xales> With?
#2042 [22:22] <muffins558> how do i put my world i made on singleplayer and put it on my server?
#2043 [22:22] <xales> ?? smp/savefiles
#2044 [22:22] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: Yes, you can use your single-player world as a mutliplayer map (or vice versa). Just make the world= line in server.properties match the name of the directory the world you want to use is in.
#2045 [22:22] <VoxelHead> smp/savefiles: To use an SMP save in single-player, copy or rename the world directory to "world#" (where '#' is a number from one to five), and use that save slot in single-player.
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#2047 [22:23] <legonigel> hey
#2048 [22:23] <muffins558> i dont have the world 1 to 5 tho
#2049 [22:23] <xales> Hello legonigel
#2050 [22:23] <xales> muffins558: You have to copy the world folder from the saves folder to the server folder
#2051 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Old instructions, you can move whatever the folder name is in %appdata%/.minecraft/saves to your server
#2052 [22:24] <muffins558> ok
#2053 [22:24] <legonigel> minecraft has randomly crashed for me twice
#2054 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> legonigel - Did it generate any error reports?
#2055 [22:24] <legonigel> no, it just stopped responding.
#2056 [22:24] <xales> Are you using any mods?
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#2058 [22:25] <legonigel> none, just downloaded it
#2059 [22:25] <Ryxan> Hey, can I get someone to help me out with a minecraft issue? XD
#2060 [22:25] <xales> Ryxan: What issue?
#2061 [22:25] <Ryxan> xales: http://pastebin.com/6R8Q1HiN
#2062 [22:25] <Ryxan> Anytime I run the game, I get that pasted on my desktop.
#2063 [22:25] <muffins558> ok i put my world in my server folder and went on the server properties and renamed the level-name=world to level-name=house
#2064 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> legonigel - If it's just a random crash, there's no info for us to work with
#2065 [22:25] <xales> Ryxan: Need to update graphics card driver
#2066 [22:26] <legonigel> i know. It always happens at night though, if that helps
#2067 [22:26] <muffins558> ok i put my world in my server folder and went on the server properties and renamed the level-name=world to level-name=house
#2068 [22:26] <Ryxan> xales: That's the latest the ATI website has. :/
#2069 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> legonigel - Not really..
#2070 [22:26] <xales> Ryxan: What's the model number of the card?
#2071 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> legonigel - If it's java crashing, try a java update. Other than that, I don't know where to start
#2072 [22:26] <xales> GreyVulpine: Sometimes turning down graphics settings helps...
#2073 [22:26] <legonigel> I just tried updating java, but it is up to date.
#2074 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Ah, xales has a point
#2075 [22:27] <legonigel> I could try reinstalling java?
#2076 [22:27] <muffins558> can somone help me now
#2077 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> legonigel - Try xales' suggestion, try turning down the graphics inside minecraft
#2078 [22:27] <muffins558> how do i add commands to my server??
#2079 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> See if it still crashes.
#2080 [22:27] <Ryxan> xales: Model number? I assume it's what it says in the device manager... ATI Radeon 9600/9550/X1050 Series and Same - Secondary
#2081 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> muffins558 - "add commands"?
#2082 [22:27] <legonigel> Thanks, I will try that.
#2083 [22:27] <muffins558> yh
#2084 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> You mean, mod your server muffins558?
#2085 [22:27] <muffins558> yh
#2086 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Google "bukkit"
#2087 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Also, #bukkit
#2088 [22:27] <xales> Ryxan: Ouch, that's a really old card. It's known to be incompatible with Minecraft (too old, doesn't support modern games)
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#2090 [22:28] <Ryxan> Xales: Right. Well, thanks. Unfortunately, don't have any other PCI cards. I have a PCIe card though >.<
#2091 [22:29] <Daaaaank> can i get some halp? :3
#2092 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Daaaaank - With?
#2093 [22:29] <xales> Daaaaank: With?
#2094 [22:29] <Daaaaank> after a few minutes of playing minecraft i get blackscreened and it stops responding
#2095 [22:30] <Daaaaank> yes java is up to date
#2096 [22:30] <xales> Are you using any mods?
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#2098 [22:30] <Daaaaank> wildgrass
#2099 [22:30] <xales> What OS?
#2100 [22:30] <Daaaaank> actually nvm not even wildgrass
#2101 [22:30] <Daaaaank> win 7
#2102 [22:30] <xales> ??> Daaaaank win/reinst
#2103 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Daaaaank: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2104 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Daaaaank: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2105 [22:30] <Daaaaank> ok ill try it
#2106 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> I'm tempted on changing that FAQ to include deleting everything but the saves folder.
#2107 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Have had instances of the texture pack crashing/blackscreening minecraft as well
#2108 [22:31] <Daaaaank> well it happens on default texturepack too
#2109 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Oh, sorry, not for you Daaaaank. It's just an FAQ entry for vox
#2110 [22:32] * GreyVulpine is just thinking to himself
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#2111 [22:32] <ThaBoss000> hello all
#2112 [22:32] <Daaaaank> vixol i did what u said, now its just opening, not responding, then closing
#2113 [22:32] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#2114 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> 'lo ThaBoss000
#2115 [22:33] <Daaaaank> voxel*
#2116 [22:33] <ThaBoss000> i has a question
#2117 [22:33] <xales> Daaaaank: VoxelHead is a bot ._.
#2118 [22:33] <Daaaaank> :C
#2119 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> ThaBoss000 - Ask away
#2120 [22:33] <ThaBoss000> it says i need to register my nick to talk in #minecraft... how do i do that
#2121 [22:33] <xales> Daaaaank: Was Minecraft closed when you deleted the folder?
#2122 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#2123 [22:33] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2124 [22:33] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#2125 [22:33] * GreyVulpine points above
#2125 [22:33] <Daaaaank> anyways, i did what u said xales, and this started happening
#2126 [22:33] <xales> 22:32:16 <@xales> Daaaaank: Was Minecraft closed when you deleted the folder?
#2127 [22:34] <Daaaaank> yes
#2128 [22:34] <xales> Go to the .minecraft folder and delete everything but "saves"
#2129 [22:34] <bread> This channel is now diamons.
#2130 [22:34] <bread> er
#2131 [22:34] <bread> diamonds.
#2132 [22:35] <ThaBoss000> okay so can anyone help me with a mod problem by any chance?
#2133 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> ThaBoss000 - Really depends on the mod.
#2134 [22:35] <ThaBoss000> humans+ to be exact
#2135 [22:35] <ThaBoss000> v2.sumthing for minecraft 5.0.1
#2136 [22:35] <Daaaaank> xales i think it worked. thanks :D
#2137 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Gah, yeah, um.. Many of us here don't know every possible combination for every possible minecraft mod out there.
#2138 [22:36] <ThaBoss000> lol here some help
#2139 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Our mod knowledge is very limited at best
#2140 [22:36] <ThaBoss000> Apr 26, 2011 6:59:41 PM ModLoader init
#2141 [22:36] <ThaBoss000> FINE: ModLoader Beta 1.5_01v3 Initializing...
#2142 [22:36] <ThaBoss000> Apr 26, 2011 6:59:41 PM ModLoader readFromModFolder
#2143 [22:36] <ThaBoss000> FINER: Adding mods from C:\Users\Vitaliy\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\mods\HumansPlus
#2144 [22:36] <ThaBoss000> Apr 26, 2011 6:59:41 PM ModLoader readFromModFolder
#2145 [22:36] <ThaBoss000> FINER: Directory found.
#2146 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> bah
#2147 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Don't paste it here, use pastebin.com
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#2149 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> er
#2150 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Don't paste it here, use pastebin.com
#2151 [22:36] <ThaBoss000> and i got kicked for flood xD
#2152 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> It floods the channel, and you
#2153 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> get kicked
#2154 [22:37] <ThaBoss000> but basically mod loader gets to humans mod and fails to load it
#2155 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, Could you copy the error, use pastebin.com
#2156 [22:37] <ThaBoss000> Apr 26, 2011 6:59:41 PM ModLoader addMod
#2157 [22:37] <ThaBoss000> FINE: Failed to load mod from "mod_HumansPlus.class"
#2158 [22:37] <ThaBoss000> Apr 26, 2011 6:59:41 PM ModLoader addMod
#2159 [22:37] <ThaBoss000> FINER: THROW
#2160 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Please stop pasting it here
#2161 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com is a website.
#2162 [22:38] <ThaBoss000> lol i didnt know what paste bin was sry
#2163 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Go there, pastebin.com the error, then use the URL to give to people
#2164 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> I also think #risucraft is better suited for your question.
#2165 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Just go there, and give them the pastebin URL of the error.
#2166 [22:38] <ThaBoss000> http://pastebin.com/gzCTEgcV
#2167 [22:39] <ThaBoss000> there
#2168 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> They're the ones in charge of mod loader
#2169 [22:39] <ThaBoss000> k
#2170 [22:39] <ThaBoss000> ill try that
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#2172 [22:40] <Daaaaank> it actually didnt work
#2173 [22:40] <Daaaaank> still happening
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#2175 [22:41] <xales> Daaaaank: Close any other programs open on your computer, see if you still have the issue
#2176 [22:45] <Daaaaank> didnt work xales
#2177 [22:45] <xales> How much RAM does your computer have?
#2178 [22:45] <Daaaaank> 4 gigs
#2179 [22:46] <xales> Latest graphics card drivers?
#2180 [22:46] <Daaaaank> well heres the thing
#2181 [22:46] <Daaaaank> i cant update my graphics driver
#2182 [22:46] <Daaaaank> or else it ends up not being able to find it and installing standard VGA
#2183 [22:46] <xales> Why not?
#2184 [22:46] <xales> Are you sure you are installing the correct driver, then?
#2185 [22:46] <Daaaaank> yes
#2186 [22:47] <Daaaaank> ive tried contacing the company i bought the comp off of, but the wont help since i upgraded the OS
#2187 [22:48] <Daaaaank> they*
#2188 [22:48] <xales> What graphics card is it?
#2189 [22:48] <Daaaaank> nvidia 8600m GT
#2190 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> That's not a bad card, mobile, but still.
#2191 [22:49] <ryang> I keep getting the following error mesage when trying to connect on multiplayer " failed connect to server" and "connection timed out:connect" can anyone please help me
#2192 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> ryang - Try smp.shadow-craft.net
#2193 [22:50] <xales> Daaaaank: If your computer provider doesn't supply a driver for it, nothing you can do
#2194 [22:50] <Daaaaank> no there is a driver, but when i update it, it doesnt work
#2195 [22:50] <Daaaaank> anyways im guessing this is a driver problem
#2196 [22:50] <Daaaaank> thanks anyways
#2197 [22:50] <ryang> what is that grey?
#2198 [22:51] <xales> ryang: A server IP
#2199 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Use "smp.shadow-craft.net" in the multiplayer field
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#2201 [22:54] <ryang> thanks I have joined the server
#2202 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, then the servers you tried, are down/not functioning
#2203 [22:55] <ThaBoss000> ryang join citycraft 24/7
#2204 [22:55] <xales> ThaBoss000: Please don't advertise servers here
#2205 [22:55] <ThaBoss000> lol jus saying xD
#2206 [22:55] <ThaBoss000> are admins allowed to grief?
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#2208 [22:57] <ryang> I cant build on shadow craft server
#2209 [22:57] <xales> You have to register with them
#2210 [22:57] <xales> ask on the server
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#2213 [22:59] <ryang> thaboss how do I join citycraft server?
#2214 [23:00] <xales> He left
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#2222 [23:29] <andy> hey
#2223 [23:29] <xales> Hi
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#2225 [23:31] <andy> im having troulble logging on to minecraft
#2226 [23:31] <xales> Can you be more specific? What exactly is the problem
#2227 [23:32] <andy> well when i dont have internet but when i try to play off line it showes a loading bar and says loading done. or something
#2228 [23:32] <andy> but wont move on
#2229 [23:32] <xales> ??> andy win/reinst
#2230 [23:33] <VoxelHead> andy: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2231 [23:33] <VoxelHead> andy: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2232 [23:33] <andy> is it possible that i corrupted my profile last time i updated?
#2233 [23:34] <xales> Possibly? Doing that will fix it
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