#1 [00:01] <zaery> For some reason, i doubt it, but does anyone know how to fix this: http://pastebin.com/qfkstzT3
#2 [00:01] <zaery> ?
#3 [00:01] <xales> zaery: Graphics card driver
#4 [00:02] <zaery> :( I literally just reinstalled it
#5 [00:02] <xales> What Linux distro?
#6 [00:02] <zaery> after minecraft would crash without giving me a error screen
#7 [00:02] <zaery> ubuntu 10.10, 32-bit
#8 [00:02] <zaery> with a gts 250m
#9 [00:03] <xales> System->Administration->Hardware drivers (might be called "additional drivers")
#10 [00:03] <xales> make sure the recommended video card driver is checked there
#11 [00:04] <zaery> ubuntu didn't recognize it there, so ubuntu's irc told me to install nvidia-current, so i did, and now nvidia-current's in that window
#12 [00:04] <zaery> with a shiny green circle
#13 [00:04] <zaery> but...
#14 [00:04] <zaery> now it says that it's installed but not in use....
#15 [00:05] <xales> zaery: you need to enable it then
#16 [00:05] <xales> I'm not sure how you would do that on Ubuntu
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#18 [00:06] * VoxelHead is back
#18 [00:06] <zaery> well, at least there's a channel for that
#19 [00:12] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go =(
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#22 [00:24] <AkiTensai> Its ok VoxelHead, you'll be missed.
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#24 [00:33] <VoxelHead> nn Shadow386
#25 [00:33] * N slaps VoxelHead
#25 [00:33] <VoxelHead> Arrgh my spine! now i only have 31 left
#26 [00:33] <VoxelHead> look, here in this box.
#27 [00:34] * N looks in
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#30 [00:52] <It> dorp dorp
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#32 [00:53] <mrthewizard> hello
#33 [00:53] * It hides
#33 [00:53] <aetherian> OH SH-
#34 [00:53] * aetherian hides with it
#34 [00:54] <It> if you'd like to leave a message please do so after the beep
#35 [00:54] * It beeps
#35 [00:56] <mrthewizard> hello?
#36 [00:57] <mrthewizard> i need help
#37 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> With?
#38 [00:57] <mrthewizard> i dont no how to register
#39 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> To, #minecraft?
#40 [00:57] <mrthewizard> to the irc chat channel minecraft
#41 [00:57] <aetherian> GreyVulpine: yes.
#42 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#43 [00:57] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#44 [00:57] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#45 [00:58] <mrthewizard> I got banned from help.....Really i did!
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#48 [01:08] <Kealper> !check poilkjask.dyndns.org
#49 [01:08] <Kealper> hmm
#50 [01:13] <Kealper> hmm
#51 [01:13] <Kealper> up+enter fail
#52 [01:13] <Kealper> !check poilkjask.dyndns.org
#53 [01:13] <Kealper> \o/
#54 [01:15] <xales> !check kealper.com:23
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#56 [01:17] <AG_Scott> !check 127.2.1.5
#57 [01:17] <AG_Scott> :D
#58 [01:17] <VoxelHead> ;)
#59 [01:18] <AG_Scott> !check 255.255.255.255
#60 [01:18] <AG_Scott> did you add all the non-routed ranges? :>
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#62 [01:19] <AG_Scott> !check 172.19.32.2
#63 [01:19] <AG_Scott> sadface
#64 [01:19] <AG_Scott> you didnt
#65 [01:19] <It> !check 129.21.137.252:25565
#66 [01:20] <It> hmm
#67 [01:20] <xales> !check 18.5.4.3
#68 [01:21] <It> !check 129.21.137.252:25565
#69 [01:21] <It> ??? aubot are you on crack
#70 [01:21] <N> !check conman.no-ip.org
#71 [01:21] <N> ...
#72 [01:22] <N> ;_;
#73 [01:22] <It> try it again
#74 [01:22] <N> !check conman.no-ip.org
#75 [01:22] <It> !check conman.no-ip.org
#76 [01:22] <It> maybe he just doesnt listen to you
#77 [01:23] <N> He sucks then
#78 [01:23] <N> 138.217.108.162?
#79 [01:23] <It> idk
#80 [01:23] <N> I'm sure the IP started with 58
#81 [01:24] <It> i get 138 when I ping it
#82 [01:24] <It> !check 129.21.137.252:25565
#83 [01:24] <It> !check 129.21.137.252:25566
#84 [01:24] <xales> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
#85 [01:24] <xales> 162.108.217.138.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR CPE-138-217-108-162.lns5.lon.bigpond.net.au.
#86 [01:24] <It> !check 129.21.137.252:25566
#87 [01:25] <N> My dad probably reset the router yet again
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#89 [01:25] <It> !check 129.21.137.252:80
#90 [01:25] <It> whats the port for svn
#91 [01:25] <N> Why did I read "port" as "porn" ._.
#92 [01:25] <It> !check 129.21.137.252:3690
#93 [01:26] <xales> It: What's /etc/services?
#94 [01:26] <It> idk, im not on the machine
#95 [01:26] <It> !check 129.21.137.252:22
#96 [01:26] <It> aha
#97 [01:26] <It> it uses svn+ssh
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#101 [01:44] <Arede> Hello
#102 [01:44] <xales> Hi
#103 [01:44] <Arede> Hi
#104 [01:44] <Arede> Ive got a question to minecraft
#105 [01:44] <xales> Just ask
#106 [01:45] <Arede> My cousin play minecraft since alpha
#107 [01:45] <Arede> and i want to buy it now
#108 [01:45] <xales> okay..so, what's the problem?
#109 [01:46] <Arede> he says if i buy it in the beta i have to pay 15 € (our money ^^) now and later i must pay for bigger updates
#110 [01:46] <Arede> is this true?
#111 [01:46] <xales> If there are any updates after the game is finished, there is no promise you will get them for free
#112 [01:46] <xales> you might still get them for free, nobody knows
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#114 [01:46] <xales> there might not even be any such updates
#115 [01:46] <Arede> okey
#116 [01:46] <It> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
#117 [01:47] <Arede> but the updates that come before the full version are free?
#118 [01:47] <xales> Yes
#119 [01:48] <Arede> Okey thank u. I'll buy it in the next days (=
#120 [01:48] <Arede> Cause i like the game
#121 [01:48] <It> its an optical disk with 1gb/s transfer rated.
#122 [01:48] <It> s*
#123 [01:48] <It> who'd have thougt
#124 [01:49] <Arede> And this is real o.o
#125 [01:49] <Arede> the Disk
#126 [01:50] <It> they're terrifically expensive now
#127 [01:50] <It> but yes, you can buy them
#128 [01:50] <Arede> Cool
#129 [01:50] <VoxelHead> Coooooooooooooool
#130 [01:50] <Arede> but i think i dont need them now
#131 [01:51] <It> useful for backups
#132 [01:52] * It has at least 1tb of unbacked up data
#132 [01:54] <Arede> for backups it could be great
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#134 [02:00] <Arede> bb
#135 [02:01] <Arede> im offline
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#152 [03:26] <shazbotmcnasty> Hello. I'm having an issue with starting minecraft.jar in linux - I'm using Crunchbang linux which is based on debian, with an openbox session and GDM - every time I start minecraft.jar, it goes to login - when I log in, GDM restarts and logs me out.
#153 [03:26] <shazbotmcnasty> Has anyone heard of this issue?
#154 [03:26] <shazbotmcnasty> May it have been because we have multiple computers playing on the same account name?
#155 [03:26] <shazbotmcnasty> both local games...
#156 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#157 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Can't use one account for multiple computers when logging into a server
#158 [03:27] <shazbotmcnasty> not logging into a server
#159 [03:27] <shazbotmcnasty> just on each individual computer, local games
#160 [03:27] <shazbotmcnasty> same network though
#161 [03:27] * shazbotmcnasty shrugs
#161 [03:27] <xales> Likely not. Has it just started doing this, or always has?
#162 [03:27] <shazbotmcnasty> just started.
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#164 [03:27] <shazbotmcnasty> we've played like this for months
#165 [03:27] <xales> ??> shazbotmcnasty linux/reinst
#166 [03:28] <VoxelHead> shazbotmcnasty: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#167 [03:28] <VoxelHead> shazbotmcnasty: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#168 [03:28] <It> tzzt
#169 [03:28] <shazbotmcnasty> I assumed that's what forcing an update did
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#171 [03:28] <shazbotmcnasty> but I ran it, lets see
#172 [03:28] <shazbotmcnasty> if i /part - no luck
#173 [03:28] <It> it pretty much is
#174 [03:30] <It> hmm
#175 [03:30] <It> I wonder if hes using advanced opengl
#176 [03:30] <It> that seems to have caused lots of crap for some people
#177 [03:31] <It> especially lol the people on intel q963s who somehow think their gpu is capable of advanced anything
#178 [03:31] <xales> s/advanced//
#179 [03:31] <xales> FTFY
#180 [03:32] <It> uuhh whut
#181 [03:32] * shazbotmcnasty [shazbotmcnasty@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#182 [03:32] <shazbotmcnasty> that def. didn't work
#183 [03:32] <relsqui> what's the deal with the advanced opengl setting, anyway? when might one want it?
#184 [03:32] <It> xales u make me confoozd
#185 [03:33] <xales> relsqui: It can improve performence if your GPU supports it
#186 [03:33] <It> oh wait I get it
#187 [03:33] <relsqui> xales: how would I determine if that's the case?
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#189 [03:33] <xales> shazbotmcnasty: Any system or hardware changes around when it started happening?
#190 [03:33] <xales> relsqui: Try it and see :)
#191 [03:33] <It> I tried it and noticed no difference
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#193 [03:34] <It> apart from a 20% fps hit
#194 [03:34] <shazbotmcnasty> xales: just reinstalled this distro today, tons of updates, tons of changed
#195 [03:34] <shazbotmcnasty> changes*
#196 [03:34] <shazbotmcnasty> no hardware changes though
#197 [03:34] <relsqui> xales: .... fair
#198 [03:34] <It> shaz make sure your graphics drivers are up to snuff
#199 [03:34] <xales> Did you install the correct driver?
#200 [03:34] <shazbotmcnasty> yes
#201 [03:34] * It bets its a graphics driver problem anyway
#201 [03:34] <It> delete system32
#202 [03:35] <It> wait you're on linux
#203 [03:35] <xales> What graphics card do you have?
#204 [03:35] <It> delete xorg.conf
#205 [03:35] <shazbotmcnasty> haha
#206 [03:35] <VoxelHead> another win for the Irkin Empire... clean lemony fresh victory is mine.
#207 [03:35] <It> dem irkins
#208 [03:35] <xales> It: I don't actually have an xorg.conf :3
#209 [03:35] <shazbotmcnasty> xales: GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU
#210 [03:35] <xales> O_o
#211 [03:36] <It> make a xorg.conf and fill it with ascii art
#212 [03:36] <xales> well, I'm not surprised you are having the issue you are
#213 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, I used to run that card
#214 [03:36] <shazbotmcnasty> xales: haha
#215 [03:36] <xales> I'm not sure if that GPU can even run Minecraft
#216 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> I don't think it's capable of supporting minecraft
#217 [03:36] <xales> ^
#218 [03:36] <It> well aparently it can
#219 [03:36] <shazbotmcnasty> I've been playing minecraft with this driver and thie gpu for months
#220 [03:36] <It> because apparently it was
#221 [03:36] <xales> As Minecraft updates, the requirements change, as it's a beta game
#222 [03:36] <It> you're using the exact same driver?
#223 [03:37] <It> with exactly the same x config and everything?
#224 [03:37] <xales> It's possible it was a Minecraft update the broke it
#225 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> See, the thing is, the MX4 series, doesn't even support OpenGL1.3
#226 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure of it
#227 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> And you need a minimum of that standard to even consider running minecraft
#228 [03:38] <It> I'm fairly sure that minecraft's graphics api relies on opengl1.1
#229 [03:39] <It> I can back that up with code
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#231 [03:39] <xales> GreyVulpine: Am I missing something here? ._.
#232 [03:39] <xales> 03:23:14 -!- weechat_user was kicked from #minecraft by xales [weechat_user]
#233 [03:39] <xales> 03:23:14 -!- mode/#minecraft [+b *!*solar@*.wwwserver.org] by xales
#234 [03:39] <xales> 03:23:14 -!- weechat_user [solar@badass.wwwserver.org] has joined #minecraft
#235 [03:39] <It> but I've only rarely seen it working on anything that supports less than ~1.4
#236 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> Erm..
#237 [03:40] <It> wuts that
#238 [03:40] <It> grrgarkgakr
#239 [03:40] <It> don't even say #minecraft
#240 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> I don't see why that banmask isn't working
#241 [03:40] <It> every time someone does I join #rant and yell for like 5 minutes
#242 [03:42] <It> xales, try *!solar@*.wwwserver.org
#243 [03:42] <xales> It: I already got it ._.
#244 [03:42] <It> was it that? did it work? was I right?
#245 [03:43] <It> I am not wizard level at irc yet
#246 [03:43] <xales> I only had to set 10 bans on them
#247 [03:43] <xales> D:
#248 [03:43] <xales> 03:41:32 -!- 215 - #minecraft: ban $a:mizrahi [by xales!xales@xales.info, 516 secs ago]
#249 [03:43] <xales> 03:41:32 -!- 214 - #minecraft: ban weechat_user!*@* [by xales!xales@xales.info, 953 secs ago]
#250 [03:43] <xales> 03:41:32 -!- 213 - #minecraft: ban *!*@199.19.227.* [by xales!xales@xales.info, 961 secs ago]
#251 [03:43] <xales> 03:41:32 -!- 212 - #minecraft: ban *!*@chupri.de [by xales!xales@xales.info, 983 secs ago]
#252 [03:43] <xales> 03:41:32 -!- 211 - #minecraft: ban *!*@*wwwserver.org [by xales!xales@xales.info, 1007 secs ago]
#253 [03:43] <xales> 03:41:32 -!- 210 - #minecraft: ban *!*solar@*.wwwserver.org [by xales!xales@xales.info, 1025 secs ago]
#254 [03:43] <xales> 03:41:32 -!- 209 - #minecraft: ban *!*@*.brinstar.org [by xales!xales@xales.info, 1090 secs ago]
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#256 [03:43] <xales> That's all one person
#257 [03:43] <It> you need to register xales!xales@xales.xales
#258 [03:43] <It> also, just +b *
#259 [03:43] <xales> I'll get right on that
#260 [03:44] <It> that'll get him (and make me feel better)
#261 [03:44] <PiousMinion> A *.jar is just a *.zip, right? I want to make my own mod installer.
#262 [03:44] <It> mmhm
#263 [03:44] <It> open with winrar, 7zip, etc
#264 [03:44] <xales> PiousMinion: People are already making those ._.
#265 [03:44] <It> dont forget to delete meta.inf
#266 [03:44] <PiousMinion> xales: poorly I'm afraid.
#267 [03:45] <xales> PiousMinion: https://github.com/lahwran/mcpkg
#268 [03:45] <smc> script load nickcolor.pl
#269 [03:45] <smc> -.-
#270 [03:45] <smc> Sorry guys
#271 [03:45] <It> risugami's is gaining the ability to load external mods
#272 [03:45] <It> just so you know
#273 [03:45] <PiousMinion> It: I'm not worried about opening it. I want to create JARs and not have minecraft tell me they aren't in the right format or something.
#274 [03:45] <It> put a zip in .minecraft\mods and it loads it for you
#275 [03:46] <PiousMinion> It: that also requires that user knows how to install "modloader". :P
#276 [03:46] <It> installing any mod requires users to know how to install a mod
#277 [03:47] <It> theres not really anything that can be done to get around it
#278 [03:47] <PiousMinion> It: not with the installer I'm making.... which is why I'm askign all this.
#279 [03:47] <PiousMinion> lol
#280 [03:48] <It> I mostly gave up making things to help people when they were all convinced that every unrelated problem they had from then on was exclusively my fault
#281 [03:48] <It> gl though I guess
#282 [03:48] <xales> PiousMinion: #risucraft is probably a better place to ask
#283 [03:48] * It goes to risu
#283 [03:49] <PiousMinion> wth is a "risu" ?
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#285 [03:49] <xales> PiousMinion: Risu is Risugami, the person who created modloader
#286 [03:49] <PiousMinion> gotcha
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#288 [03:49] <relsqui> :D squirrelgod
#289 [03:49] <relsqui> PiousMinion: risu -> japanese for squirrel
#290 [03:50] <PiousMinion> good to know. lol
#291 [03:50] <relsqui> I used risumegami as a handle once, ages ago. this is why I know this.
#292 [03:50] <xales> lol
#293 [03:50] * knyrf goes to bed
#293 [03:50] <NotiCon> NO YOU!
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#295 [03:53] <It> brb
#296 [03:53] <shazbotmcnasty> I've decided to reinstall java
#297 [03:53] * shazbotmcnasty shrugs
#297 [03:54] <shazbotmcnasty> it's easier than reinstalling GDM
#298 [03:54] <shazbotmcnasty> I was hoping this was a known issue, I googled the hell out of it but found nothing.
#299 [03:54] <shazbotmcnasty> I've been getting java from the debian repos
#300 [03:54] <knyrf> shazbotmcnasty: I wouldn't expect much...at all...from that GPU
#301 [03:54] <knyrf> I really think that's the issue <.<
#302 [03:55] <shazbotmcnasty> knyrf: I'm not - I'm just expecting it to run, as it has been for about 4 months
#303 [03:55] <shazbotmcnasty> with this GPU
#304 [03:55] <shazbotmcnasty> and it was running on this install, with this xorg.conf and video driver about an hour ago
#305 [03:55] <knyrf> People have failed to get it to even run on newer GPUs than you have, so...
#306 [03:55] <knyrf> who knows
#307 [03:55] <knyrf> I don't
#308 [03:55] * knyrf goes to bed
#308 [03:55] <shazbotmcnasty> lol
#309 [03:56] <shazbotmcnasty> the last major thing I did was install the LAMP stack
#310 [03:56] <shazbotmcnasty> but minecraft was working even after I did that.
#311 [03:57] <shazbotmcnasty> lets see what this java reinst doe
#312 [03:57] <shazbotmcnasty> does*
#313 [03:57] <shazbotmcnasty> if this doesn't work, i'm going to get java from the website.
#314 [03:57] <shazbotmcnasty> and if not that, then idk
#315 [03:57] <shazbotmcnasty> I don't want to reinstall gdm at all
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#317 [03:57] <shazbotmcnasty> when I figure out the issue, I will tell you what it is and how to fix it...
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#319 [03:58] <shazbotmcnasty> JUST IN CASE - you get some sad soul running terrible legacy hardware and has the same issue
#320 [03:58] <shazbotmcnasty> or just the same issue D:<
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#322 [04:06] <shazbotmcnasty> running java verbosely to check for errors
#323 [04:06] <shazbotmcnasty> ;_;
#324 [04:07] <It> pipe the output to a file, so when it crashes, it wont be lost
#325 [04:08] <It> are you using sun java or the openjre?
#326 [04:08] <shazbotmcnasty> sun java
#327 [04:08] <shazbotmcnasty> should I attempt openjre?
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#329 [04:09] <shazbotmcnasty> and how would one pipe the output to a file?
#330 [04:09] <shazbotmcnasty> I guess I would have to rtfm amirite
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#332 [04:09] <It> java <options> -jar <minecraft> > output.out
#333 [04:10] <shazbotmcnasty> oh neat
#334 [04:10] <shazbotmcnasty> k
#335 [04:10] <It> or rather
#336 [04:10] <It> java [options] -jar [minecraft] > output.out
#337 [04:10] <shazbotmcnasty> haha
#338 [04:10] <It> <> wasn;t the best choice considering one of them is literal
#339 [04:10] <shazbotmcnasty> I understood
#340 [04:10] <shazbotmcnasty> don't fret
#341 [04:11] <It> you're the first
#342 [04:11] <It> we usually get... well... the cruft of the crop here
#343 [04:11] <shazbotmcnasty> I would imagine so.
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#345 [04:11] <relsqui> hehe
#346 [04:12] <relsqui> well, I mean. with a channel name like this, we are kind of selecting for people who don't know what they're doing already :)
#347 [04:12] <It> if I had a dollar for every 'my minecraft doesn't work on my macbook' I'd pay my student loans
#348 [04:12] <shazbotmcnasty> yeah so loading minecraft.jar no longer restarts gdm
#349 [04:12] <shazbotmcnasty> errr, one sec I'll scrot
#350 [04:12] <It> i guess thats good
#351 [04:12] <It> scrot is not in my vocabulary
#352 [04:12] <It> unless its screenshot
#353 [04:14] <shazbotmcnasty> http://ompldr.org/vOGZ4NA
#354 [04:14] <shazbotmcnasty> yes screenshot
#355 [04:14] <shazbotmcnasty> cpu is indeed at 100%
#356 [04:14] <shazbotmcnasty> which I'm not surprised about
#357 [04:14] <shazbotmcnasty> but if you look at the output in the terminal
#358 [04:15] <shazbotmcnasty> it's been stuck at that "sun.awt.SunToolkit$6" for probably around 10 mins
#359 [04:16] <shazbotmcnasty> well, after that one..
#360 [04:16] <shazbotmcnasty> :<
#361 [04:16] <shazbotmcnasty> I'll install openjre and see if it runs with that
#362 [04:16] <shazbotmcnasty> pewp
#363 [04:17] <Rixius> so, I'm having an issue on the SMP server, where I cannot destroy any blocks, place any blocks or open doors, even though I'm one of the ops on this server. Has anyone else experienced this?
#364 [04:17] <aetherian> I'm sure plenty of people have.
#365 [04:18] <relsqui> Rixius: move away from spawn
#366 [04:19] <relsqui> wait
#367 [04:19] <relsqui> you said you're an op
#368 [04:19] <relsqui> sorry. hmm.
#369 [04:19] <Rixius> yep >_> and even at teh spawn as a non op you can open doors
#370 [04:19] * aetherian chuckles quietly to himself
#370 [04:19] <Rixius> s/teh/the
#371 [04:19] <It> is it bukkit
#372 [04:19] <relsqui> not in my experience
#373 [04:19] <It> its probably bukkit
#374 [04:19] <Rixius> nope no bukkit
#375 [04:19] <Rixius> had it on, but took it off and still had the issue
#376 [04:19] <It> either that or you have singleplayercommands?
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#378 [04:20] <Rixius> >_> I think my friend installed that yesterday
#379 [04:20] <Rixius> He was playing on my laptop
#380 [04:20] <It> remove it, it has conflicts with smp
#381 [04:21] <Rixius> sweet good to know
#382 [04:23] <Rixius> Thanks for the help It
#383 [04:23] <It> np
#384 [04:23] <shazbotmcnasty> lol well openjdk gets stuck at the same place
#385 [04:23] <shazbotmcnasty> DONE LOADING
#386 [04:23] <shazbotmcnasty> RAWWRR
#387 [04:23] <It> try a force download
#388 [04:24] <shazbotmcnasty> in options? "force update" ?
#389 [04:25] <shazbotmcnasty> it downloads all the packages, then gets STUCK
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#391 [04:29] <It> try the rm -rf !/.minecraft/bin then
#392 [04:29] <It> ~, not !
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#405 [05:06] <_puttE> Hi i got an question .. if anyboady has the tim .. du you need to have the payd version to play multiplayer?
#406 [05:07] <aetherian> You have to have the paid version to play multiplayer beta
#407 [05:07] <aetherian> however, free accounts can play multiplayer classic
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#410 [05:09] <_puttE> Okey, thanks ... aerherian ..
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#412 [05:10] <_puttE> aetherian one more short question .. i can connect to the server bur i cant move .. is that the way it works if im useing the free version?
#413 [05:11] <It> try a different server, the free version (classic) is similar to beta (you can move and place blocks etc)
#414 [05:11] <It> also you move with wasd, idk if udlr works
#415 [05:12] <aetherian> <3 wasd
#416 [05:12] <aetherian> also, if you are playing in browser
#417 [05:12] <aetherian> try clicking in the area
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#420 [05:18] <_puttE> aetherian: when i connect to ther server it says .. you must bee login to do that .. an when i type " /login <something>" i says you need to be registerd
#421 [05:19] <aetherian> ...
#422 [05:19] <aetherian> wait
#423 [05:19] <aetherian> classic?
#424 [05:19] <aetherian> ugh
#425 [05:19] <_puttE> Nope .. in beta ..
#426 [05:19] <aetherian> I'm going to bed.
#427 [05:20] <aetherian> it's probably just a server mod or something
#428 [05:20] <_puttE> okey, thanks ..
#429 [05:20] <AG_Scott> It's a plugin.
#430 [05:20] <AG_Scott> They run their own authentication, you should ask them about it.
#431 [05:20] <_puttE> A_Scott .. what do you mean?
#432 [05:22] <_puttE> AG_Scott: Im running the free beta and trying to play multiplayer .. is that possibel?
#433 [05:22] <AG_Scott> ask the server operator for help
#434 [05:22] <AG_Scott> I have no idea, did you sign up or anything?
#435 [05:22] <AG_Scott> If you did, what is the username?
#436 [05:22] <_puttE> Hmm .. sign up to the server?
#437 [05:23] <AG_Scott> No, minecraft itself.
#438 [05:23] <_puttE> yes .. but i haven payd .. im p+laying for free
#439 [05:23] <AG_Scott> okay, whats your username?
#440 [05:23] <_puttE> allew12
#441 [05:24] <AG_Scott> !paid allew12
#442 [05:24] <AG_Scott> Hmmm.
#443 [05:24] <SinZ> he is using MinecraftSP or something like that
#444 [05:24] <SinZ> he/she*
#445 [05:24] <_puttE> ... like i said ...
#446 [05:24] <AG_Scott> I don't think it will let you play servers with authentication turned on.
#447 [05:24] <_puttE> ok ..
#448 [05:25] <AG_Scott> (Yes i know you didn't pay but i know Mojang is doing some demo thing with a magazine)
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#450 [05:27] <_puttE> SinZ .. how can i see that?
#451 [05:27] <SinZ> ... If you didn't pay, no multiplayer for you
#452 [05:28] <_puttE> Ok .. thanks than i know ..
#453 [05:28] <AG_Scott> Unless you can find a server with auth turned off
#454 [05:29] <_puttE> Ok ..
#455 [05:29] <AG_Scott> that server you were on apparently has it off
#456 [05:29] <AG_Scott> but i couldn't tell you how to register on it
#457 [05:29] <AG_Scott> you should ask the server admins ;p
#458 [05:29] <_puttE> hmmm .. ok but he/she is not on line ..
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#460 [05:30] <_puttE> but thatnsk anyway ... guess ill have to rethink about buying it ...
#461 [05:31] <AG_Scott> that doesn't even make sense...
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#468 [05:39] * It pokes everyone
#468 [05:40] * NotiCon pokes It
#468 [05:40] <Morrolan> Don't poke me, just got up half an hour ago. :(
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#474 [06:09] <coz> hey guys, anyone figure out how and where the minecarts you place in the map are stored?
#475 [06:10] <coz> i have a feeling i ruined my map and there are stray carts all over the place
#476 [06:11] <It> they're entities
#477 [06:12] <coz> (say a metro system gone wrong, and the blocks it occupied are already deleted, but the lag remains)
#478 [06:12] <coz> entities? as in non solid blocks but still in the map ?
#479 [06:13] <coz> or entities , as in something the server somehow reads from another place (and which) ..
#480 [06:13] <Sqozza> y'know
#481 [06:13] <Sqozza> banning everyone is quite the stress reliever
#482 [06:14] <NotiCon> use a white list instead?
#483 [06:14] <coz> or let me rephrase. is there some tool that can delete all the minecarts from a world ?
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#485 [06:15] <NotiCon> f5 lets you view entities as a number above them iirc
#486 [06:15] <_303> f3*
#487 [06:15] <NotiCon> right f3
#488 [06:15] <Morrolan> coz: You should be able to remoev entities in a certain area with MCEdit I think.
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#492 [06:18] <coz> blocks it occupied are already deleted, but the lag (which MIGHT be caused by the tracksystem that was in its place) remains in certain places in my world. hence i was starting to doubt how well mcedit handles minecarts
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#500 [06:34] <m0nk> my minecraft cant load news
#501 [06:35] <m0nk> is there a update on the way?
#502 [06:38] <lemon-rev> can you acess the minecraft.net site ?
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#504 [06:42] <PiousMinion> What's with the forums posts with "NB!". wtf is NB ?
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#506 [06:42] <Yannis390> #help
#507 [06:43] <Yannis390> #help
#508 [06:44] <Yannis390> #help
#509 [06:45] <_303> PiousMinion: nota bene -- take note
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#512 [06:57] <g> It: ohai
#513 [06:57] <g> I'm uploading the code nao
#514 [06:57] <g> is svn good?
#515 [06:57] * g pokes it/wug
#515 [06:58] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Eww
#516 [06:58] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Svn
#517 [06:58] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Gogogit
#518 [06:58] <Sqozza> Thanks, SinZ
#519 [06:58] <Sqozza> I was AFK and stuff
#520 [06:58] <SinZ> ?
#521 [06:58] <g> svn has good windows support
#522 [06:58] <g> if anything else did, I'd use it
#523 [06:58] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :g: that's even worse
#524 [06:58] <SinZ> what did i help you with?
#525 [06:58] <g> How is diversity a bad thing? :P
#526 [06:59] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :git works okay with tortoisegit, it's just a pain to get it working
#527 [06:59] <It> I use svn
#528 [06:59] <It> I run an svn server on my desktop
#529 [06:59] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :People who like linear change histories like svn
#530 [06:59] <It> I have started using subclipse to access it
#531 [07:00] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Bigger projects who actually need real branches use something like git or mercurial
#532 [07:00] <g> I like things that are easy to set up :P
#533 [07:00] <g> but this isn't a huge project so it doesn't matter
#534 [07:00] <It> sudo apt-get install subversion
#535 [07:00] <g> I actually do have git/hg on here too
#536 [07:00] <It> there, done
#537 [07:00] <g> but tortoise* sucks for them
#538 [07:00] <It> subclipse
#539 [07:01] <It> or integrated-svn-plugin-in-editor-of-your-choice
#540 [07:01] <g> Qt creator has an svn interface
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#542 [07:01] <g> you just need an svn.exe
#543 [07:01] <Enes> Hello
#544 [07:01] <g> it also has them for git or hg
#545 [07:01] <g> Hi, Enes
#546 [07:01] <Enes> What will happend if a hacker gets my acount?
#547 [07:01] <Enes> Can they change my email?
#548 [07:02] <It> i dont think emails are changable
#549 [07:02] <Enes> Thank you very much.
#550 [07:03] <It> they can set your password but you can just reset it with your email
#551 [07:03] <g> okay, It
#552 [07:03] <g> Do you have an assembla?
#553 [07:03] <It> assembler?
#554 [07:03] <g> assembla.com
#555 [07:03] <Enes> If do very strange password that i forget but, i fill it quickly in ;p
#556 [07:03] <g> project host
#557 [07:03] <Enes> Than if i log on other pc , password reset :)
#558 [07:04] <It> I don't but I have a sourceforge
#559 [07:04] <g> I don't have a sourceforge
#560 [07:04] <g> idk, I like assembla, they give you their entire suite if you have a public repo
#561 [07:04] <It> afaik they offer pretty much every code hosting solution
#562 [07:05] <It> also I just compiled usbview
#563 [07:05] <g> :P
#564 [07:05] <It> I'm scared as hell.
#565 [07:05] <It> i typed BLD and it did it
#566 [07:05] <g> xD
#567 [07:05] <It> I didn't even realize what it was until I ran it
#568 [07:05] <g> Here, I'll push it all up at http://www.assembla.com/code/mcplusplus-ircbot/
#569 [07:05] <It> k ill register sometime
#570 [07:05] <NotiCon> file not found
#571 [07:06] <g> lolwut
#572 [07:06] <It> case sensitive?
#573 [07:06] <g> sec
#574 [07:06] <g> http://www.assembla.com/code/mcplusplus-ircbot/subversion/nodes
#575 [07:06] <NotiCon> is emtry
#576 [07:06] <NotiCon> empty
#577 [07:07] <It> i was about to say lol rev 1, no code
#578 [07:07] <g> it's just been created, derp
#579 [07:07] <NotiCon> oic
#580 [07:07] * It hosts deobfuscated minecraft source files in his svn
#580 [07:07] <It> good luck guessing my password though
#581 [07:07] <g> xD
#582 [07:08] <Morrolan> "piratebay4ever"?
#583 [07:08] <It> lol longer
#584 [07:08] <Morrolan> Euhm
#585 [07:08] <It> and with more symbols
#586 [07:08] <Morrolan> "I<3openSouRcEW@rez"?
#587 [07:08] <It> longer
#588 [07:08] <Morrolan> Geez
#589 [07:09] <It> its not words either. its a dick to type
#590 [07:09] <Morrolan> The MD5 hash of the Minecraft source?
#591 [07:09] <g> Committed
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#593 [07:10] <It> maybe
#594 [07:10] <It> you'd never guess it anyway, since the files change every time i commit
#595 [07:10] <It> its 93000 lines
#596 [07:10] <It> +/-
#597 [07:11] <It> haku
#598 [07:11] <It> are you a wingless short haired dragon lol
#599 [07:12] <haku> huh?
#600 [07:12] <NotiCon> spodjfag+9awjp0z,mv0+jvzerpovdfkg0+i09dsugj03wjgpodskgpesoirjge9 It ?
#601 [07:12] <It> it seems you have lived under a rock out of range of good movies
#602 [07:12] <haku> seems like ;(
#603 [07:12] <It> http://www.google.com/search?q=spirited+away
#604 [07:13] <haku> lol ;D
#605 [07:13] <It> funny story: haku is in this picture 3 times
#606 [07:13] <It> http://yalun.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/spiritedawaybig.jpg
#607 [07:13] <It> I won't spoil how
#608 [07:14] <It> in case you decide to watch it
#609 [07:14] <Morrolan> Obviously he's the tree on the right side. :)
#610 [07:14] <It> anywho did you join for help or something
#611 [07:15] <It> also noticon no, I'd kill myself if I had to type that
#612 [07:17] <g> committed a readme..
#613 [07:22] <NotiCon> It: same but it was worth a guess D:
#614 [07:23] <g> ~reload data
#615 [07:24] <g> ~check mcplusplus-ircbot
#616 [07:24] <g> hm
#617 [07:24] <g> ~feeds
#618 [07:24] <g> ~check mcpp-ircbot
#619 [07:24] * g nods in approval
#619 [07:24] <NotiCon> o:
#620 [07:25] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [5]: Corrected a typo in the README (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/YLLMqN
#621 [07:25] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The cost of the mod api (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/gRLlHE
#622 [07:25] <g> arg
#623 [07:25] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Achtung! Uwaga! Attention! (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/Xxfrwj
#624 [07:25] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/WGSWQF
#625 [07:25] <g> didn't expect that
#626 [07:26] <g> THAT is why we are refactoring :P
#627 [07:26] <g> anyway
#628 [07:26] <g> I specifically wrote in Assembla support for the feeds
#629 [07:26] <g> so it shows who committed
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#633 [07:35] <NotiCon> i see
#634 [07:39] <g> Now
#635 [07:39] <g> What license..
#636 [07:39] <g> hmm
#637 [07:40] <g> I always liked the CC licenses but they're apparently no good for code, so..
#638 [07:40] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [6]: Commenting the code (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/gozmLU
#639 [07:43] <g> hm, http://www.opensource.org/licenses/qtpl.php looks good
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#645 [07:55] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [7]: Added license, a modified version of the Q Public License Version 1.0. (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/UMaqjI
#646 [07:56] <g> alright
#647 [07:56] <g> it's about ready, It
#648 [07:57] <g> I have to go for a while though
#649 [07:57] <g> It's a public repo, anyone can check the code out, so feel to play around with it, guys
#650 [08:00] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [8]: Removed an unused file (main.h). (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/jcyAvk
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#652 [08:08] <SinZ> whats McPlusPlus?
#653 [08:10] <Morrolan> A bot.
#654 [08:10] <SinZ> i know that...
#655 [08:11] <Morrolan> Well, it parses feeds from notch's tumbler, mcupdate's tumblr and the mojang blog.
#656 [08:11] <Morrolan> Oh, and from it's repo.
#657 [08:11] <Morrolan> its*
#658 [08:11] <NotiCon> Morrolan: no thats the old repo
#659 [08:11] <NotiCon> err
#660 [08:12] <NotiCon> the repo is the stuff where the new version of McPlusPlus is going to be made
#661 [08:12] <NotiCon> in c++ instead of being python?
#662 [08:12] <Morrolan> Ah, so the current McPlusPlus is still the python (or whatever) one?
#663 [08:13] <NotiCon> yup
#664 [08:13] <NotiCon> and the repo is going to be McPlusPlus in c++
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#666 [08:14] <buddyochoa> .u
#667 [08:14] <buddyochoa> sorry wrong channel
#668 [08:14] <Morrolan> :p
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#670 [08:24] <SinZ> why c++ =(
#671 [08:25] <SinZ> python is a good language
#672 [08:25] <SinZ> (not as good as php ^.^) but still good
#673 [08:26] <LordEddi> ..
#674 [08:26] <Morrolan> Well, I guess he wanted to try something new?
#675 [08:31] <Dark_Fox_> I don't think c++ and php are very comparable
#676 [08:33] <LordEddi> Hence my ..'s ^^
#677 [08:37] <gAway2002> Because it's morer efficient and more readable.
#678 [08:37] <gAway2002> more*
#679 [08:38] <gAway2002> And you can't really compare PHP, because it's slow as fuck..
#680 [08:40] <NotiCon> doesnt matter what we say about php cause that guy saying that stuff left
#681 [08:40] <gAway2002> Oh, and pythn doesn't have pointers
#682 [08:41] <gAway2002> Yeah I know
#683 [08:41] <gAway2002> for the benefit of the channel :P
#684 [08:43] <NotiCon> true
#685 [08:43] <LordEddi> Its still not really a programming language tho.
#686 [08:43] <LordEddi> But yeah.
#687 [08:44] <gAway2002> It is
#688 [08:44] <gAway2002> It's just not usually used as one
#689 [08:44] <gAway2002> Because, as I said, it's slow as fuck :P
#690 [08:45] <NotiCon> itsnt used for programming but you can make stuff in php that doest stuff, i have heard about ppl making php bots
#691 [08:45] <gAway2002> Yeah, because
#692 [08:45] <gAway2002> a lot of peopke know it for web design
#693 [08:46] <gAway2002> people*
#694 [08:46] <gAway2002> so they're like "screw a new language"
#695 [08:46] <Morrolan> PHP is a programmin language. Just cause people use it for web design does NOT make it less of a programmin language. ;)
#696 [08:46] <Morrolan> programming*
#697 [08:46] <Morrolan> Nothing more to say about that, really. ;)
#698 [08:46] <NotiCon> Morrolan: whats vhdl then?
#699 [08:47] <Morrolan> That hardware language thingy?
#700 [08:47] <gAway2002> Isn't that for writing drivers or something?
#701 [08:47] <Morrolan> No idea, never used it and never read about it either.
#702 [08:50] <NotiCon> its for writing hardware stuff in a fpga/cpld or smth likely
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#705 [08:51] <Morrolan> From what I've read in the last few minutes it's some sort of description language for hardware. :/
#706 [08:51] <Morrolan> No idea if I understood it correctly though.
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#708 [08:53] <Keltinray> It's a language for describing logical circuits, if my memory doesn't fail me
#709 [08:55] <gAway2002> A mystery language! :P
#710 [08:55] <NotiCon> Keltinray: making not describing
#711 [08:55] <NotiCon> you program them into the chip
#712 [08:55] <NotiCon> so then it works as you program it
#713 [08:55] <Keltinray> Quite so
#714 [08:56] <NotiCon> basicly not a cpu
#715 [08:56] <Keltinray> Technically, you can make a CPU with it
#716 [08:56] <NotiCon> cause a cpu does one thing at a time
#717 [08:56] <NotiCon> true
#718 [09:01] <Morrolan> Minecraftforum down, prepare for a flood of "Halp, y not working?"
#719 [09:01] <gAway2002> Oh god, OJ
#720 [09:01] <gAway2002> OK*
#721 [09:02] <NotiCon> you sure its down?
#722 [09:02] <gAway2002> !isitdown minecraftforum.net
#723 [09:02] <Morrolan> 502 bad gateway, won't be for long I guess, but still.
#724 [09:02] <Morrolan> !isdown minecraftforum.net
#725 [09:02] <Keltinray> worked fine for me
#726 [09:02] <GreyBot> Morrolan: It's not just you! http://minecraftforum.net looks down from here.
#727 [09:02] <Morrolan> Yea, the database is running out of connections I think.
#728 [09:02] <Morrolan> Had that some days ago already.
#729 [09:02] <gAway2002> fail
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#731 [09:04] <Morrolan> Ah, now I'm getting the SQL error. :)
#732 [09:04] <gAway2002> and thus, it begins (maybe)
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#734 [09:06] <SirFract> Hello, folks!
#735 [09:06] <gAway2002> Hello, SirFract!
#736 [09:07] <SirFract> Does anybody have more information about 1.5_0.2? I heard rumors that it's out already?
#737 [09:07] <SirFract> And hello, gAway2002
#738 [09:07] <NotiCon> its for server isnt it?
#739 [09:07] <gAway2002> I do believe it is
#740 [09:08] <SirFract> Oh..
#741 [09:08] <Morrolan> SirFract: The server is already, as they said, yes.
#742 [09:08] <Morrolan> Client is still at _01
#743 [09:08] <SirFract> Ah, thanks lads :D
#744 [09:08] <SirFract> So the server software is faster than the Client software?
#745 [09:08] <gAway2002> No
#746 [09:09] <gAway2002> They just fixed more bugs
#747 [09:09] <gAway2002> :P
#748 [09:09] <SirFract> Oh right.
#749 [09:09] <SirFract> I'm a noob xD
#750 [09:09] <gAway2002> :P
#751 [09:09] <SirFract> Anyways, thanks for your help and see you all later. :)
#752 [09:09] <gAway2002> _02 is just a patch number
#753 [09:09] <gAway2002> no prib
#754 [09:09] <gAway2002> prob*
#755 [09:09] <SirFract> :) oki thnx
#756 [09:09] <SirFract> bye
#757 [09:10] <Morrolan> Uh, I hope curse gets this sorted out soon.
#758 [09:11] <gAway2002> Curse?
#759 [09:12] <Morrolan> The company behind the forums.
#760 [09:12] <NotiCon> curse?
#761 [09:12] <NotiCon> oh
#762 [09:12] <gAway2002> uh
#763 [09:12] <Morrolan> http://www.curse.com/
#764 [09:12] <gAway2002> I thought aera hosted the forums
#765 [09:12] <Morrolan> They "sold out" to curse a looong time ago.
#766 [09:12] <gAway2002> oh right
#767 [09:13] <Morrolan> Made some people.... not that happy.
#768 [09:13] <Morrolan> But let's not talk about such silly stuff here. ;)
#769 [09:13] <gAway2002> :P
#770 [09:13] <gAway2002> aera also wrote Myne
#771 [09:14] <gAway2002> (I happen to own the license to some of the derivatives)
#772 [09:14] <gAway2002> Do you remember a Creative called "The Archives"?
#773 [09:16] <Morrolan> " However, gdude2002's lack of coding experience ended up introducing a few show-stopping bugs, and the team had to start again."
#774 [09:16] <Morrolan> XD
#775 [09:16] <gAway2002> Yup :P
#776 [09:16] <gAway2002> In fact, I wrote that lol
#777 [09:16] <Morrolan> Nah, never played creative.
#778 [09:16] <gAway2002> Aera ran The Archives before we did
#779 [09:16] <gAway2002> now iKJames does
#780 [09:17] <gAway2002> Who we happen to be issuing legal threats to about the license >.>
#781 [09:18] <gAway2002> I'd like to forget the whole thing to be honest
#782 [09:18] <gAway2002> but there are a few people who want blood :/
#783 [09:19] <gAway2002> anyway
#784 [09:19] <gAway2002> There's a half a ton of derivatives of iCraft, which was derived from our branch of Myne
#785 [09:20] <gAway2002> mostly from people who are like "lol I changed a string let's release it as a suite"
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#787 [09:21] <gAway2002> facedesks*
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#793 [09:38] <gAway2002> Channel is busy today.. </sarcasm>
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#796 [09:51] <_LoneCrow> Anyone know if there are any good mods that'll work with mcmyadmin that will add more types of ore or minerals? I mean I love this game to death and it is fun as hell. But at times it would be so cool to randomly find ruby, or copper or something unique and different... maybe not have many uses for it but it just needs more
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#798 [09:51] <gAway2002> Nope
#799 [09:51] <gAway2002> Mods are both clientside and serverside in that respect
#800 [09:52] <_LoneCrow> Also.. personally I think lava should have sound.. I mean when you are digging you should hear a furnace type sound of grinding rock
#801 [09:52] <gAway2002> And it's just too muvh work
#802 [09:52] <gAway2002> much*
#803 [09:52] <_LoneCrow> So when you are digging you can kinda tell if there is lava nearby and dig towards it
#804 [09:52] <gAway2002> But then there's no suspense!
#805 [09:52] <gAway2002> You can dig downwards safely!
#806 [09:52] <gAway2002> :P
#807 [09:52] <_LoneCrow> I have bukkit too but it seems that those plugins are minimal in what they can do to the actual program
#808 [09:52] <gAway2002> You can't have a bukkit plugin modify the cliebt
#809 [09:52] <gAway2002> client*
#810 [09:53] <gAway2002> it's not like gmod where we have scripting
#811 [09:53] <_LoneCrow> I can be sitting near some lava and still hear noise and dig down and fall in.. I've done it while trying to grab redstone or gold..
#812 [09:53] <gAway2002> Elite players would know though
#813 [09:53] <gAway2002> And that isn't really fair :P
#814 [09:53] <_LoneCrow> Does the guy who makes this have a roadmap of planned features?
#815 [09:54] <gAway2002> He /does/
#816 [09:54] <gAway2002> but
#817 [09:54] <gAway2002> it's not public
#818 [09:54] <_LoneCrow> Doh :)
#819 [09:54] <gAway2002> It's a bunch of sticky notes on a wall :P
#820 [09:54] <_LoneCrow> yellow blocks..
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#822 [09:54] <gAway2002> heh
#823 [09:55] <_LoneCrow> I've been playing so much the last 2 weeks all I dream about now is blocks
#824 [09:56] <ALT3RNAT1V3> so how do i make my self undamaged by lava?
#825 [09:56] <gAway2002> ALT3RNAT1V3: With a nod
#826 [09:56] <gAway2002> mod*
#827 [09:56] <ALT3RNAT1V3> which mod
#828 [09:56] <gAway2002> server mod for multiplayer
#829 [09:56] <gAway2002> a lot of them can do it
#830 [09:56] <gAway2002> for single player, I have no idea
#831 [09:56] <ALT3RNAT1V3> anyway i can do it without putting it on the server?
#832 [09:57] <gAway2002> No, that's called cheating
#833 [09:58] <ALT3RNAT1V3> cheating what?
#834 [09:58] <ALT3RNAT1V3> its my server
#835 [09:58] <ALT3RNAT1V3> i'm building a moate
#836 [09:58] <ALT3RNAT1V3> and its being incredibly difficult
#837 [09:59] <gAway2002> oh well
#838 [09:59] <gAway2002> You'd need bukkit or something
#839 [09:59] <ALT3RNAT1V3> have bukkit
#840 [09:59] <gAway2002> There's always zombe's flyhax
#841 [09:59] <ALT3RNAT1V3> have zombe fly mod
#842 [09:59] <gAway2002> Essentials can do it
#843 [10:00] <gAway2002> using /god
#844 [10:00] <NotiCon> posts it!
#845 [10:01] <gAway2002> :P
#846 [10:01] <NotiCon> oh wait
#847 [10:01] <NotiCon> that was to the topic spoken about a few mins ago :(
#848 [10:01] <gAway2002> its all good :P
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#850 [10:02] <gAway2002> lol why do people keep doing that?
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#853 [10:06] <_LoneCrow> Is it possible to run texture packs in multiplayer.. it would just show up on the client side right?
#854 [10:06] <gAway2002> yeah
#855 [10:06] <gAway2002> that's correct
#856 [10:07] <_LoneCrow> I liked that picture of the wildgrass thing.. is that a texture pack or client side mod?
#857 [10:07] <_LoneCrow> So I wouldnt' need to load it on the server then
#858 [10:07] <gAway2002> No, just on the client
#859 [10:07] <gAway2002> cosmetic stuff is client side only
#860 [10:08] <_LoneCrow> I guess there is a bukkit mod called Vegetation.. hmm
#861 [10:09] <Xenomundus> Is there still the free Creative version of minecraft?
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#863 [10:10] <gAway2002> He could have waited
#864 [10:10] <gAway2002> lol
#865 [10:10] <NotiCon> gAway2002: you mean joining and parting or parting and joining?
#866 [10:13] <gAway2002> yeah
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#869 [10:16] <g> ^
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#871 [10:20] <skippydippy> Hi
#872 [10:20] <skippydippy> I need help
#873 [10:20] <g> ?? ask
#874 [10:20] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#875 [10:20] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#876 [10:21] <skippydippy> when i join server im faling down
#877 [10:21] <g> Have you waited for it to load yet?
#878 [10:21] <skippydippy> yea
#879 [10:21] <skippydippy> and sometimes its load
#880 [10:21] <g> It can take several minutes
#881 [10:21] <g> this is a known bug
#882 [10:21] <skippydippy> but only spawn area, with BIG BIG LAGS
#883 [10:21] <g> That's because the map has just been generated
#884 [10:21] <g> give it time
#885 [10:21] <skippydippy> ok
#886 [10:22] <skippydippy> thanks for tip!
#887 [10:22] <g> Welcome.
#888 [10:22] <skippydippy> u are great. cya
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#890 [10:22] <g> Easy come, easy go.
#891 [10:26] <NotiCon> easy peasy
#892 [10:26] <g> :P
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#894 [10:28] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [9]: Added a TODO list (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/oMFMh7
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#896 [10:32] <g> hopefully the feed won't repeat my commit message..
#897 [10:32] <g> (It does that sometimes)
#898 [10:33] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [10]: Added a release branch for Windows, with a test build. Also added an ignore for the build directory. (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/rSdigv
#899 [10:33] <g> Crap, it did
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#901 [10:33] <g> my commit isn't even finished yet lol
#902 [10:34] <bm1ofamillion> im having trouble downloading minecraft..
#903 [10:34] <g> bm1ofamillion: How so?
#904 [10:34] <bm1ofamillion> when i run the launcher, it says "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#905 [10:34] <g> !isdown minecraft.net
#906 [10:34] <GreyBot> g: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#907 [10:34] <g> hmmm
#908 [10:35] <bm1ofamillion> what do you mean its me =\
#909 [10:35] <g> Have you tried it a few times?
#910 [10:35] <bm1ofamillion> yes a lot actually
#911 [10:35] <g> And your login is valid?
#912 [10:35] <bm1ofamillion> yes
#913 [10:35] <g> What's your username?
#914 [10:35] <bm1ofamillion> 1ofamillion
#915 [10:35] <g> !paid 1ofamillion
#916 [10:35] <g> hmm
#917 [10:35] <g> Are you running any firewalls, security software etc?
#918 [10:36] <bm1ofamillion> yea, but i have added a rule to my firewall
#919 [10:36] <g> Is it ZoneAlarm, by any chance?
#920 [10:36] <bm1ofamillion> its bitdefender
#921 [10:36] * g scratches his head
#921 [10:36] <bm1ofamillion> lol
#922 [10:36] <bm1ofamillion> ikr?
#923 [10:36] <g> Does it work if you try to play from the website?
#924 [10:36] <bm1ofamillion> nope
#925 [10:36] <g> have you updated java?
#926 [10:37] <bm1ofamillion> yea
#927 [10:37] <bm1ofamillion> should i re install it?
#928 [10:37] <g> And, you're on Windows?
#929 [10:37] <bm1ofamillion> yea
#930 [10:37] <g> alright
#931 [10:37] <g> open a run box
#932 [10:37] <bm1ofamillion> how exactly lol
#933 [10:37] <g> type in: %AppData%/.minecraft
#934 [10:37] <g> Hit the windows key and R
#935 [10:37] <g> Once you get there,
#936 [10:38] <g> delete the bin folder
#937 [10:38] <g> and try again
#938 [10:38] <bm1ofamillion> i don't have a .minecraft folder
#939 [10:38] <g> What?
#940 [10:38] <g> Hmm
#941 [10:38] <g> You're referring to SMP, right?
#942 [10:38] <g> (Beta)
#943 [10:38] <bm1ofamillion> yea
#944 [10:38] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [11]: Added a release branch for Windows, with a test build. Also added an ignore for the build directory. (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/9hOwPg
#945 [10:38] * g smacks Assembla's RSS feed
#945 [10:38] <g> hm, well
#946 [10:39] <g> Do you have teamviewer? I'll see if I can fix it
#947 [10:39] <bm1ofamillion> no
#948 [10:39] <g> If you want me to take a look, you can get that
#949 [10:39] <g> or
#950 [10:39] <g> we can try to get your java output
#951 [10:40] <bm1ofamillion> java output..
#952 [10:40] <bm1ofamillion> =?
#953 [10:40] <g> from the error console
#954 [10:40] <bm1ofamillion> oh ok
#955 [10:40] <sammaelt> does the classic mode work for you or you cant connect to everything on "minecraft.net"?
#956 [10:40] <bm1ofamillion> let me check
#957 [10:40] <bm1ofamillion> well i can go to the site
#958 [10:41] <sammaelt> you can login to the site?
#959 [10:41] <bm1ofamillion> wow it says this game requires java
#960 [10:41] <bm1ofamillion> so maybe my java isn't working correctly
#961 [10:41] <sammaelt> of course it does, is that a sarcasm? :)
#962 [10:41] <bm1ofamillion> lol im not being sarcastic
#963 [10:42] <bm1ofamillion> thats what it says when i try to play classic
#964 [10:42] <sammaelt> i had to disable Java Deployment Toolkit in my firefox module to use java
#965 [10:42] <bm1ofamillion> hmm let me try that
#966 [10:43] <bm1ofamillion> will it show up in add ons?
#967 [10:43] <sammaelt> i meant plugins
#968 [10:43] <bm1ofamillion> oh
#969 [10:43] <sammaelt> i dont think it will help you though
#970 [10:43] <bm1ofamillion> how do i do that?
#971 [10:44] <sammaelt> you can login using your nick and pwd to the site?
#972 [10:44] <g> Plugins are in the addons window, yes
#973 [10:44] <bm1ofamillion> the took kit isn't showing up
#974 [10:44] <g> I wouldn't expect you to have it installed
#975 [10:44] <g> Alright, try reinstalling java
#976 [10:45] <bm1ofamillion> ok
#977 [10:45] <g> (You'll need to uninstall it before it'll let you do that)
#978 [10:45] <sammaelt> it installed itself when i upgraded to firefox4 for me
#979 [10:45] <sammaelt> shouldnt he try to update it instead of reinstalling?
#980 [10:45] <g> sammaelt: So it did, but it doesn't affect me
#981 [10:45] <g> No, it's aleready up to date
#982 [10:45] <g> already*
#983 [10:46] <sammaelt> sorry im clueless and worthless to find answers :)
#984 [10:46] <g> we all start somewhere :P
#985 [10:46] <sammaelt> or maybe he got the open gl problem?
#986 [10:47] <bm1ofamillion> wow i didn't have the latest update for java -.- maybe thats it?
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#988 [10:47] <sammaelt> thats a good start
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#990 [10:47] <sammaelt> but also look for newr updates for your graphic card
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#992 [10:48] <g> sammaelt: That won't affect his connection in the client
#993 [10:48] <sammaelt> i though he could login to the site or the standalone launcher but couldnt start the game, sorry
#994 [10:49] <g> it's all good
#995 [10:50] <sammaelt> bm1 are you sure you got the right user/pwd then? you received the confirmation mail from Mojang?
#996 [10:50] <bm1ofamillion> yea
#997 [10:51] <bm1ofamillion> well i g2g...maybe ill get it figured out
#998 [10:51] <sammaelt> dont you get an error message when you try to log in in the standalone launcher
#999 [10:51] <bm1ofamillion> yes
#1000 [10:51] <sammaelt> alright, have a nice time
#1001 [10:51] <bm1ofamillion> lol ty
#1002 [10:51] <sammaelt> oh could you copy past the msg next time
#1003 [10:51] <sammaelt> see you
#1004 [10:52] <bm1ofamillion> ill prob get back on here if i can when i get back
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#1006 [10:52] <bm1ofamillion> c ya
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#1008 [10:56] <_LoneCrow> Is there a way to play single player without being online? Like if I wanted to play on my laptop while at the cottage etc
#1009 [10:56] <oldtopmanserver> _LoneCrow: Yes you can.
#1010 [10:57] <oldtopmanserver> Just try to play and it will offer an "Offline Mode" button.
#1011 [10:57] <_LoneCrow> cool haven't tried yet..
#1012 [10:57] <oldtopmanserver> You will have to have played it online first though...
#1013 [10:57] <_LoneCrow> this would rock if there also was an iphone app :)
#1014 [10:58] <g> There's one in the pipeline I think
#1015 [10:58] <_LoneCrow> Yeah I read someone was working on one..
#1016 [11:02] <g> Hm, this link does prompt a few questions..
#1017 [11:02] <g> http://store.steampowered.com/dlc/620/
#1018 [11:03] <Morrolan> Well, things like maps and stuff I guess.
#1019 [11:03] <g> They released a fax which mentioned pressurised tubes
#1020 [11:03] <g> hmm
#1021 [11:04] <Morrolan> Ah yea, those sucking tubes were cut from the game, true.
#1022 [11:04] <Morrolan> I just hope that they won't charge for it. :/
#1023 [11:04] * g shrugs
#1023 [11:04] <g> I don't think I'll mind if they do tbh
#1024 [11:04] <NotiCon> they made some gel that made you climb walls and then you got sick
#1025 [11:04] <g> that was a different game
#1026 [11:04] <g> they took it from tagit or something
#1027 [11:05] <NotiCon> portals 2 had a gel in testing but due to ppl getting ill from it they canceled it
#1028 [11:05] <g> oh yeah
#1029 [11:05] <g> that
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#1031 [11:11] <g> Hmm, ATOM looks like a real pain to implement
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#1033 [11:12] <g> Might just not bother and only implement RSS
#1034 [11:12] <g> ATOM is rarely used anyway
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#1038 [11:22] <g> lulz, ERR_YOUREBANNEDCREEP
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#1041 [11:29] <sammaelt> there's an android version on the pipeline that would be great to play minecraft on an android tablet pc
#1042 [11:29] <g> I guess
#1043 [11:29] <sammaelt> i hope they optimize it for the best for less lag
#1044 [11:33] <g> I would expect so
#1045 [11:34] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [12]: Added some examples for the RSS parser and added classes for parsing feeds. (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/Cx4BuU
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#1051 [11:42] <Grimreaper0> I'm having trouble connecting to my own online server, getting an error code that reads: Connection Lost - End of Stream
#1052 [11:42] <Grimreaper0> can anyone help me?
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#1054 [11:43] <g> Server hasn't been updates, Grimreaper0
#1055 [11:44] <Grimreaper0> how can I update my server without losing data?
#1056 [11:44] <g> Just download the new .jar
#1057 [11:44] <g> or .exe if you use that
#1058 [11:44] <g> overwrite the old one
#1059 [11:44] <g> !server
#1060 [11:44] <Grimreaper0> thank you
#1061 [11:45] <g> Welcome
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#1063 [11:51] <Grimreaper0> works fine, thank you for the help
#1064 [11:54] * g wins again
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#1067 [12:08] <Isa> Hello everyone
#1068 [12:09] <Isa> Someone who feels like he/she is up to the challenge of helping me out with fixing my Minecraft?
#1069 [12:12] <peru_> me
#1070 [12:12] <Isa> Great
#1071 [12:12] <Isa> Up until today Minecraft has worked without a porblem
#1072 [12:12] <Isa> *problem
#1073 [12:13] <Isa> However, whenever I login, Minecraft closes down at once
#1074 [12:13] <Isa> If I type an incorrect password and choose to play offline, the same thing happens
#1075 [12:14] <Isa> The window fades to black and I don't get to see the MOJANG logo
#1076 [12:14] <peru_> do error log file is created in the same directory that minecraft.exe?
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#1078 [12:14] <Isa> Yeah, one has been created
#1079 [12:14] <K4R33M> Hello!
#1080 [12:14] <Isa> Apparently, there's a Java error, so I reinstalled Java
#1081 [12:14] <K4R33M> Can I get some help?
#1082 [12:14] <Isa> Same problem
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#1084 [12:15] <peru_> only one file? hmm shouldnt there be many.. each one for every time you run minecraft?
#1085 [12:15] <K4R33M> How the hell can I change my miner skin?
#1086 [12:15] <Isa> I have two error logs
#1087 [12:16] <Isa> K4R33M, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Skin#Changing_Player_Skins
#1088 [12:16] <mib_m5sphz> Hey guys ... I need some help my server stopped working awile ago and I just am getting around to fixing it but well I got the ports forwareded and it worked before but its stopped working around when it went into beta
#1089 [12:16] <K4R33M> ok thx
#1090 [12:17] <mib_m5sphz> people get "connection timed out: connect" now
#1091 [12:17] <peru_> you sure it is recent eroor llog? does the file create date correspond to the moment you last run minecraft
#1092 [12:17] <Isa> Yes it does
#1093 [12:17] <peru_> if yes, you should upload it to pastebin.com and post link here
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#1096 [12:18] <Isa> hang on
#1097 [12:18] <mib_m5sphz> Oh and I am running no mods or anything just plane vanilla
#1098 [12:19] <Isa> Peru, http://pastebin.com/PQwxKtd5
#1099 [12:20] <peru_> VoxelHead, any ideas?
#1100 [12:20] <gAway2002> peru_, VoxelHead is a bot
#1101 [12:20] <peru_> i know :D
#1102 [12:20] <gAway2002> Good, most people don't seem to know that >.>
#1103 [12:20] <peru_> iam regular user here
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#1105 [12:21] <Isa> I appreciate your help :)
#1106 [12:22] <peru_> yep you have up-to-date java.. so my knowledge ends here :/
#1107 [12:22] <Isa> If someone knowledgeable could please take a look at my link, I'd appreciate it: http://pastebin.com/PQwxKtd5
#1108 [12:22] <Isa> Well, thank you nevertheless
#1109 [12:22] <Isa> :)
#1110 [12:23] <mib_m5sphz> Can someone help me
#1111 [12:23] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:342f:e2d4:d14c:1556 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Isa, well, looks like there's an error.
#1112 [12:23] <gAway2002> ?? ask
#1113 [12:23] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1114 [12:23] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1115 [12:23] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:342f:e2d4:d14c:1556 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Too bad.
#1116 [12:23] <Isa> BlackGyver, yeah
#1117 [12:23] <Isa> But, million dollar question: Do you know how to solve it?
#1118 [12:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:342f:e2d4:d14c:1556 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Nope.
#1119 [12:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:342f:e2d4:d14c:1556 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Gave you all I had.
#1120 [12:24] <Isa> :p
#1121 [12:24] <Isa> Oh well
#1122 [12:24] <Isa> Thing is, I google'd the error, and it's not Minecraft exclusive
#1123 [12:24] <Isa> Others have solved it by redownloading Java, however, that didn't work here
#1124 [12:25] <mib_m5sphz> People cant connect to my server and I have opened the port in my router ... people use to be able to connect to me
#1125 [12:25] <gAway2002> mib, do you have a dynamic IP?
#1126 [12:25] <mib_m5sphz> No its static
#1127 [12:26] <gAway2002> I'm getting 208.127.85.148, is that the one you've been using?
#1128 [12:26] <mib_m5sphz> yes
#1129 [12:26] <gAway2002> Have you changed the port?
#1130 [12:27] <gAway2002> Is your local IP also static?
#1131 [12:27] <mib_m5sphz> just tryed it again and nope
#1132 [12:28] <gAway2002> what error is offered when people try to join?
#1133 [12:29] <mib_m5sphz> Well my server worked before no problem at all not so much as a connection problem but now it does not want to work (worked before I closed my server for awile before beta and a little wile after beta came out it stopped working for me)
#1134 [12:30] <mib_m5sphz> also it says
#1135 [12:30] <mib_m5sphz> Failed to connect to the server
#1136 [12:30] <mib_m5sphz> Connection timed out:connection
#1137 [12:30] <gAway2002> Are you using the correct server?
#1138 [12:30] <gAway2002> As in, you're trying to connect a beta client to a beta server
#1139 [12:30] <gAway2002> and not a beta client to a creative server
#1140 [12:32] <mib_m5sphz> I am using the .exe server file from minecrafts site
#1141 [12:32] <gAway2002> when did you last download it?
#1142 [12:32] <mib_m5sphz> before I got on here to see if it was that
#1143 [12:32] <mib_m5sphz> xD
#1144 [12:32] <gAway2002> Can you connect to 127.0.0.1?
#1145 [12:32] <gAway2002> with it running
#1146 [12:33] <mib_m5sphz> unknown host
#1147 [12:33] <gAway2002> ...?
#1148 [12:33] <gAway2002> try localhost
#1149 [12:33] <mib_m5sphz> oh wait there was a space in there
#1150 [12:33] <gAway2002> lol
#1151 [12:34] <mib_m5sphz> Connection refused: connectect
#1152 [12:34] <mib_m5sphz> Yeah that was derp move
#1153 [12:34] <gAway2002> use the right port
#1154 [12:34] <gAway2002> :P
#1155 [12:34] <mib_m5sphz> and adding the port it works
#1156 [12:35] <gAway2002> ok
#1157 [12:35] <gAway2002> so
#1158 [12:35] <gAway2002> are you the only person who couldn't connect?
#1159 [12:35] <gAway2002> wait
#1160 [12:35] <mib_m5sphz> No
#1161 [12:35] <gAway2002> what port is ir?
#1162 [12:35] <gAway2002> it*
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#1164 [12:36] <mib_m5sphz> was using defalt and also tryed 25570
#1165 [12:36] <gAway2002> !check 208.127.85.148:25570
#1166 [12:37] <gAway2002> bot fail
#1167 [12:37] <gAway2002> !check 208.127.85.148
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#1169 [12:37] <gAway2002> :/
#1170 [12:38] <sammaelt> !paid JeanX
#1171 [12:38] <gAway2002> hmm
#1172 [12:38] <sammaelt> does that list only people who really bought it?
#1173 [12:38] <gAway2002> mib_m5sphz, are you running ZoneAlarm?
#1174 [12:38] <mib_m5sphz> said something to me before
#1175 [12:38] <gAway2002> sammaelt: yes
#1176 [12:38] <sammaelt> nice script
#1177 [12:38] <VoxelHead> wanna show me what it can do?
#1178 [12:38] <gAway2002> It's on the site
#1179 [12:39] <sammaelt> good against pirate
#1180 [12:39] <gAway2002> vox, shut up
#1181 [12:39] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#1182 [12:39] <gAway2002> sammaelt: That's sort of the point
#1183 [12:40] <Isa> !paid IsaInterguild
#1184 [12:40] <mib_m5sphz> I have zone alarm .... got it because my other firewall didnt freaking listen when I told it what I did want running that it didnt like
#1185 [12:40] <sammaelt> hehe, though its manually activated :p
#1186 [12:40] <gAway2002> mib_m5sphz, ZoneAlarm is known to interfere with MC servers
#1187 [12:40] <Isa> I'm gonna try again - http://pastebin.com/PQwxKtd5
#1188 [12:40] <gAway2002> Try disabling it
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#1190 [12:41] <gAway2002> Isa: is that the memory access violation
#1191 [12:41] <gAway2002> ?
#1192 [12:41] <mib_m5sphz> hmmm
#1193 [12:41] <Isa> That is the error log created when I try to login to Minecraft
#1194 [12:41] <gAway2002> try running as admin
#1195 [12:41] <Isa> that's when error logs are created :p
#1196 [12:41] <Isa> Usually, they're not
#1197 [12:41] <gAway2002> hmm
#1198 [12:41] <Isa> If I run as admin, I get error logs at least
#1199 [12:42] <gAway2002> it looks like a memory issue
#1200 [12:42] <mib_m5sphz> I turned off zone alarm firewall and it still didnt work
#1201 [12:42] <gAway2002> try rebooting
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#1203 [12:42] <sammaelt> looks like a memory problem
#1204 [12:42] <Isa> Okay, thanks :)
#1205 [12:42] <gAway2002> mib_m5sphz, I'm not entirely sure of the specifics
#1206 [12:42] <sammaelt> and close ram eater apps
#1207 [12:42] <gAway2002> but it's known to screw MC up
#1208 [12:42] <Isa> Yeah, haven't turned this one off in 13 days
#1209 [12:42] <mib_m5sphz> Well what would be a recamended firewall then
#1210 [12:43] <gAway2002> The one in your router.
#1211 [12:43] <gAway2002> :P
#1212 [12:43] <sammaelt> maybe a defrag would heplp too if you close your computer once a month
#1213 [12:43] <Isa> If I'm not back, I'll just say thanks to you guys for your help
#1214 [12:43] <Isa> :)
#1215 [12:43] <gAway2002> Isa: good luck :3
#1216 [12:43] <sammaelt> good luck
#1217 [12:43] <Isa> Thanks ^^
#1218 [12:43] <mib_m5sphz> I do a quick defrag once a week and a deep every few months
#1219 [12:45] <sammaelt> i use auslogics disk defrag, it has a nice gui and its a freeware
#1220 [12:45] <gAway2002> I use tuneup
#1221 [12:45] <gAway2002> it does it automatically
#1222 [12:45] <mib_m5sphz> Yeah I use tuneup aswell
#1223 [12:46] <mib_m5sphz> going to try to see if uninstalling zone alarm does anything
#1224 [12:46] <gAway2002> alright
#1225 [12:47] <LordEddi> SSD.
#1226 [12:47] <LordEddi> Mmmm.
#1227 [12:47] <gAway2002> tasty.
#1228 [12:47] <sammaelt> fasty
#1229 [12:47] <gAway2002> fastly
#1230 [12:48] <mib_m5sphz> also question what program are you using to check users IPs with
#1231 [12:48] <sammaelt> just tried to make a pun
#1232 [12:48] <gAway2002> I use /dns in mIRC lol
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#1234 [12:49] <sammaelt> smsniff if you wanna spy the tcp/ip activities on your network but thats another thing
#1235 [12:50] <Snowblind> what are good bukkit plugins for a starting server
#1236 [12:51] <gAway2002> #bukkit
#1237 [12:52] <Snowblind> oh
#1238 [12:53] <sammaelt> i was going to say this but i whoised him and he was already on #bukkit >_>
#1239 [12:53] <gAway2002> lol
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#1243 [13:01] <Zece> back and they still cant connect
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#1245 [13:03] <helpserverplease> hi
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#1247 [13:05] <JasonBeee> hi
#1248 [13:05] <Zece> people cant connect to my server and I have the port open
#1249 [13:05] <JasonBeee> what are they typing
#1250 [13:06] <Zece> My IP with the :port
#1251 [13:06] <JasonBeee> whats your up
#1252 [13:06] <JasonBeee> ip and port
#1253 [13:06] <helpserverplease> Guys, does anyone know how to set up a clanforge server
#1254 [13:07] <Zece> 208.127.85.148:25570
#1255 [13:07] <helpserverplease> :(
#1256 [13:07] <g> !check 208.127.85.148
#1257 [13:07] <g> No it isn't >.>
#1258 [13:07] <g> Kealper: ding ding ding
#1259 [13:08] <g> !check netblock-208-127-85-148.dslextreme.com:25570
#1260 [13:08] * g slaps AuBot around a bit with a large trout.
#1260 [13:08] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :...
#1261 [13:08] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Phail.
#1262 [13:08] <g> indeed
#1263 [13:08] <JasonBeee> yeah I can't connect.
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#1265 [13:08] <Morrolan> !check 192.16.0.1
#1266 [13:08] <Morrolan> XD
#1267 [13:08] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check 81.163.204.192
#1268 [13:09] <g> lol.
#1269 [13:09] <g> I see what he did
#1270 [13:09] <g> !check 127.0.0.1
#1271 [13:09] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :192.16 isn't a local subnet IIRC
#1272 [13:09] <helpserverplease> Please someone, i just bought a minecraft server from clanforge, and i need help setting it up :(
#1273 [13:09] <Morrolan> He doesn't recognise that as an internal address, but the external ones he does? XD
#1274 [13:09] <Morrolan> geez
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#1276 [13:09] <g> helpserverplease: You'll need to ask clanforge.
#1277 [13:09] <Morrolan> There should be an eight there, obviously XD
#1278 [13:09] <g> !check 192.168.0.1
#1279 [13:09] <helpserverplease> g how?
#1280 [13:09] <g> helpserverplease: I have no idea, I don't use them
#1281 [13:09] <helpserverplease> Damn, :(
#1282 [13:09] <Morrolan> Ok, so AuBot is not completely messed up. :)
#1283 [13:10] <oldtopman> !check 99.198.122.185
#1284 [13:10] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Morrolan: 192.16.x.x isn't local, apparently
#1285 [13:10] <g> That is such a weird bot
#1286 [13:10] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I vaguely checked.
#1287 [13:10] <g> !check
#1288 [13:10] <g> !check 99.198.122.185:9001
#1289 [13:11] <g> That's incorrect
#1290 [13:11] <g> There IS a working server on 9001 :P
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#1292 [13:11] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check 10.0.0.1
#1293 [13:11] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :AuBot hates me.
#1294 [13:11] <g> quail
#1295 [13:11] <g> !check 10.0.0.1
#1296 [13:11] <g> No, it has a throttle, lukegb
#1297 [13:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :g: a throttle that lasts over 24 hours?
#1298 [13:12] <g> It's a global throttle
#1299 [13:12] <g> !check 10.0.0.1
#1300 [13:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Or a glob
#1301 [13:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Ah :P
#1302 [13:12] <g> !check 10135.3242.56
#1303 [13:12] <g> see?
#1304 [13:12] <helpserverplease> Ill pay $10 to anyone who helps me set up the clanforge minecraft server
#1305 [13:13] <g> ...That's pathetic.
#1306 [13:13] <Morrolan> Oh come on, can't be that hard to set one up, now can it?
#1307 [13:14] <Morrolan> Game servers -> Select game -> Select specs -> order
#1308 [13:14] <helpserverplease> I fail :(
#1309 [13:14] <Morrolan> Where exactly are you stuck then?
#1310 [13:14] <LordEddi> helpserverplease: You could contant Multiplay? They have their own IRC channel, on Quakenet.
#1311 [13:14] <helpserverplease> Well, I can log into my server, but i dont know how to make me admin, or put HMOD
#1312 [13:14] <LordEddi> Contact even.
#1313 [13:14] <helpserverplease> Lordeddi do you know what it is?
#1314 [13:14] <g> Let me see how long it takes me to find a knowledgebase
#1315 [13:15] <LordEddi> Uhm, is it safe to mention an IRC channel here?
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#1317 [13:15] <helpserverplease> g i found one for clanforge, but it has nothing on minecraft
#1318 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> LordEddi - Sure
#1319 [13:15] <g> helpserverplease: http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/minecraft/79299-need-help-new-minecraft-server-run-clanforge
#1320 [13:15] <Morrolan> http://support.multiplay.co.uk/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=view
#1321 [13:15] <LordEddi> Its on irc.quakenet.org, in #mpukhosting
#1322 [13:15] <g> first result in google
#1323 [13:15] <g> hm
#1324 [13:15] <g> nvm
#1325 [13:15] <g> it's useless
#1326 [13:16] <helpserverplease> :(
#1327 [13:16] <LordEddi> The interface itself is very selfexplanatory.
#1328 [13:16] <helpserverplease> Im a noob :(
#1329 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/minecraft/81152-new-clanforge-running-server
#1330 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Simple instructions are on there
#1331 [13:16] <LordEddi> Click on Profiles -> Click on Edit -> Add the addons you want -> Click Save.
#1332 [13:16] <g> OR http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/help/clanforge-userguide/
#1333 [13:17] <LordEddi> hehe
#1334 [13:17] <LordEddi> Yeah, i would use the first one of those two. The second one is a bit comlicated.
#1335 [13:17] <LordEddi> What the heck is up with my spelling.
#1336 [13:17] <LordEddi> Oh, and its not called hmod anymore helpserverplease, I think its called Canary
#1337 [13:17] <g> bukkit
#1338 [13:18] <g> I thought
#1339 [13:18] <helpserverplease> So, do i have to upload bukkit?
#1340 [13:18] <g> hmod died and was replaced with bukkit, no?
#1341 [13:18] <g> No, hepl
#1342 [13:18] <g> no, helpserverplease*
#1343 [13:18] <LordEddi> helpserverplease: Its all available if you select Profiles -> Edit -> Addons
#1344 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> hmod was replaced with bukkit.. but some developers never went along, and made a fork of hmod
#1345 [13:18] <Morrolan> g: It wasn't really "replaced" by bukkit, there are still some Hmod forks alive.
#1346 [13:18] <helpserverplease> anyone TV??
#1347 [13:18] <VoxelHead> french fries of course!
#1348 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> kmod, and other *mods, then canary
#1349 [13:18] <LordEddi> If you go to the IRC channel I mentioned, they will help you with everything you need pretty much
#1350 [13:18] <g> bukkit is much mroe stable than hmod >.>
#1351 [13:19] <helpserverplease> Its empty
#1352 [13:19] <LordEddi> /server -m irc.quakenet.org
#1353 [13:19] <Morrolan> helpserverplease: You are on quakenet?
#1354 [13:19] <VoxelHead> i can't tell you that
#1355 [13:19] <LordEddi> VoxelHead, shut up
#1356 [13:19] <VoxelHead> Fine.
#1357 [13:19] <helpserverplease> lord eddi
#1358 [13:19] <LordEddi> Oh, mibbit.
#1359 [13:19] <LordEddi> uhm.
#1360 [13:19] <helpserverplease> what do i type in on this
#1361 [13:19] <helpserverplease> /server -m irc.quakenet.org
#1362 [13:19] <LordEddi> hehe, one sec. They have their own irc thingie, Ill find you a link :)
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#1364 [13:19] <helpserverplease> thanks
#1365 [13:20] <Morrolan> Gotta slap my internet it seems. :/
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#1367 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Slap it good.
#1368 [13:20] <Mandreas> !check 192.168.1.1
#1369 [13:20] <LordEddi> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.multiplaygameservers.com%2Fsupport%2Firc%2F&ei=Z1C4Tb-hGIXysgboofTqAw&usg=AFQjCNGNAWe7Li_6mqyofogHqlyMIOFv3w
#1370 [13:20] <LordEddi> >.>
#1371 [13:20] <g> Anyone know how that bot makes its checks?
#1372 [13:20] <g> ~title
#1373 [13:21] <LordEddi> Ok, thats not what I meant to do.
#1374 [13:21] <McPlusPlus> "Live Support - Multiplay Gameservers" (http://is.gd/7Iqn6f)
#1375 [13:21] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :g: it connects and sees if the port is alive.
#1376 [13:21] <g> that's.. rather futile
#1377 [13:21] <g> it should check the first packet
#1378 [13:21] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Not really
#1379 [13:21] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :That's 3/4 of the effort.
#1380 [13:21] <g> well, there could be anything on the port
#1381 [13:22] <g> so
#1382 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> All it does is sends a TCP packet, and waits for an ACK back
#1383 [13:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :So?
#1384 [13:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::P
#1385 [13:22] <g> Does it even check the port we provide?
#1386 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1387 [13:22] <g> I'm not sure it does
#1388 [13:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :It doesn't really matter
#1389 [13:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check www.google.com:80
#1390 [13:22] <g> I have it a valid IP:port and it said it was down :P
#1391 [13:22] <g> gave*
#1392 [13:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::/
#1393 [13:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check www.google.com:80
#1394 [13:22] <g> lol
#1395 [13:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check www.google.com:80
#1396 [13:22] <g> !check www.google.com:80
#1397 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> .. aubot hates you lukegb
#1398 [13:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :g: see, it's ignoring me
#1399 [13:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Told you so.
#1400 [13:22] <g> xD
#1401 [13:22] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper.
#1401 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Kealper, make AuBot stop hating lukegb.
#1402 [13:23] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check www.google.com:80
#1403 [13:23] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :D: :P
#1404 [13:23] <LordEddi> Oh, the guy left before he got his link >.>
#1405 [13:23] <g> lol.
#1406 [13:23] <g> yeah, that doesn't surprise me
#1407 [13:23] <LordEddi> I really dont get how people can not use the clanforge thingie.
#1408 [13:23] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :AuBot: unignore
#1409 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> !help
#1410 [13:23] <g> !unignore lukegb
#1411 [13:23] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!help
#1412 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> !listen lukegb
#1413 [13:23] <LordEddi> My mother basicly could do it, and she barely tuches computers.
#1414 [13:24] <g> lol
#1415 [13:24] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!listignores
#1416 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> !listignores
#1417 [13:24] <g> lolwut
#1418 [13:24] <g> why ignore aeth?
#1419 [13:24] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :o.o
#1420 [13:24] <NotiCon> awesome aetherian is ignored
#1421 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> aeth likes to spam with bots
#1422 [13:24] <g> he's never spammed with mine
#1423 [13:24] <NotiCon> how nice of him
#1424 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> But, um, lukegb, aubot doesn't hate you
#1425 [13:24] <g> Granted, nobody knows how it works
#1426 [13:24] <g> but
#1427 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> !check google.com:80
#1428 [13:25] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check yahoo.com:80
#1429 [13:25] <g> I gave it a working setup, though
#1430 [13:25] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check c.nerd.nu
#1431 [13:25] <NotiCon> !check 127.0.0.1:43
#1432 [13:25] <g> and it said it was down
#1433 [13:25] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1433 [13:25] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :GreyVulpine: oh wait
#1434 [13:25] <g> oh
#1435 [13:25] <g> it had the IP of my vps
#1436 [13:25] <g> derp
#1437 [13:25] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I'm on IPv6. I think it hates IPv6 iirc
#1438 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> ...
#1439 [13:26] <g> !check gdude2002.dyndns-free.com:9001
#1440 [13:26] <g> fair enough
#1441 [13:26] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I told him to fix it :/
#1442 [13:27] <g> 2a01:4f8:101:2403::2:1
#1443 [13:27] <g> I don't think my ISP even supports ipv6
#1444 [13:27] <g> wait it does
#1445 [13:27] <g> I can ping it
#1446 [13:27] <g> fair enough
#1447 [13:28] <g> Notch just linked this:
#1448 [13:28] <g> http://imgur.com/hz2R0
#1449 [13:28] <g> (twitter)
#1450 [13:34] <m0nk> *IT'S A MAP* (link finding stuff tune)
#1451 [13:34] <g> :P
#1452 [13:34] <g> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/531367
#1453 [13:34] <g> this ^
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#1456 [13:39] <Morrolan> g: Guess I'll stay with my minimap mod, that map thingy is a bit pixel-ish
#1457 [13:39] <eragon2262> so i downloaded the file to make a server but i cant tell where i see what the IP address is
#1458 [13:39] <Morrolan> whatismyip.com
#1459 [13:40] <Morrolan> ??< index
#1460 [13:40] <Morrolan> ?? ip/external
#1461 [13:40] <VoxelHead> ip/external: Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1462 [13:40] <g> eragon2262: 65.102.200.162
#1463 [13:40] <Morrolan> Ah, so there is a FAQ entry, nice. :)
#1464 [13:40] <g> you can just /dns username
#1465 [13:40] <g> on most IRC clients
#1466 [13:41] <Morrolan> g: You can't be sure that he's hosting from the same PC he's chatting from though.
#1467 [13:41] <g> He said he was :P
#1468 [13:41] <eragon2262> lol i am
#1469 [13:41] <Morrolan> Hehe, in this case what g said. :D
#1470 [13:41] <eragon2262> but it still wont connect
#1471 [13:41] <g> Give 65.102.200.162 to other people
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#1473 [13:41] <g> conect yourself to 127.0.0.1
#1474 [13:42] <Morrolan> g: My client doesn't support it, gah.
#1475 [13:42] <Morrolan> Time to dig for the command I guess.
#1476 [13:42] <g> mIRC has it
#1477 [13:42] <eragon2262> couldnt connect to the 127 server
#1478 [13:42] <g> you can always ping their hostmask
#1479 [13:42] <g> eragon2262: port is correct?
#1480 [13:43] <g> localhost:port
#1481 [13:43] <Morrolan> "HydraIRC does not handle /dns command on it's own, what it does instead is it passes it unchanged to the server." <- Oh well, not that important anyway.
#1482 [13:43] <eragon2262> pinged the server with 100% return
#1483 [13:44] <Morrolan> Did you forward the necessary ports?
#1484 [13:44] <Morrolan> port*
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#1487 [13:48] <eragon2262> how morrolan
#1488 [13:48] <g> "No answer" came the stern reply..
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#1490 [13:48] <eragon2262> ? ok
#1491 [13:50] <Morrolan> Do you know how to access your router?
#1492 [13:50] <eragon2262> it wont let me open my server.log doc file
#1493 [13:50] <eragon2262> and yes i do
#1494 [13:51] <Morrolan> Ok, log in there then, and there should then be a tab/option/whatever for port forwarding somewhere.
#1495 [13:51] <Morrolan> Just drop a message here when you've found it.
#1496 [13:51] <Morrolan> And ignore that messed up grammar in the sentence above. ^^
#1497 [13:52] <eragon2262> ok found it
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#1499 [13:53] <Morrolan> Can someone take over for an instance? Quite busy atm.
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#1501 [13:53] <eragon2262> i can wait no hurry here
#1502 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> eragon2262 - Do you know your computer's local ip address?
#1503 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> On the computer that's going to be running the MC server
#1504 [13:53] <eragon2262> yeah
#1505 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> What is it?
#1506 [13:54] <eragon2262> 65.102.200.162
#1507 [13:54] <Zoro> yo
#1508 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> That's not your local IP address
#1509 [13:54] <Zoro> you play minecraft do you
#1510 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> We do, yes Zoro
#1511 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> eragon2262 - What operating system are you running?
#1512 [13:54] <eragon2262> windows vista
#1513 [13:54] <Zoro> who is 17 or older
#1514 [13:55] <eragon2262> me
#1515 [13:55] <Zoro> eragon
#1516 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Okay, could you go to your start menu, and in the search bar, type in: cmd
#1517 [13:55] <Zoro> how old
#1518 [13:55] <eragon2262> 18
#1519 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#1520 [13:55] <eragon2262> command is open
#1521 [13:55] <Zoro> k
#1522 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Tell me your ipv4 address
#1523 [13:55] <Zoro> yo im recruiting people
#1524 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Please don't do that here Zoro
#1525 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> This isn't the channel
#1526 [13:55] <Zoro> im a private survival server multiplayer
#1527 [13:56] <Zoro> but
#1528 [13:56] <Zoro> ok
#1529 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Use #smp for that
#1530 [13:56] <sp39> Hey guys, I've been trying to play SMP lately but I get the error: "Disconnected by Server - Took too lo"
#1531 [13:56] <Zoro> i just dont know where i can publish it
#1532 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Zoro - #smp
#1533 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> also.
#1534 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1535 [13:56] <Zoro> #smp
#1536 [13:56] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1537 [13:56] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1538 [13:56] * mib_wm1p5m [mib_wm1p5m@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1539 [13:56] <eragon2262> 192.168.0.7
#1540 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> All of those places will let you publish a server address zoro
#1541 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> eragon2262 - Good, that's your private internal IP address, remember it
#1542 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Now, back to your router.
#1543 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Are you at the port forwarding page?
#1544 [13:57] <eragon2262> yes
#1545 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> What you're going to need to do is port forward 25565-25565/TCP to your 192.168.0.7 address
#1546 [13:59] <eragon2262> ok done
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#1548 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your router's status page, and make sure the public/internet/WAN ip address listed there, is 65.102.200.162
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#1550 [14:00] <eragon2262> yeah correct
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#1552 [14:00] <slimer> Disconnected by Server: Took too lo
#1553 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Then your port forwarding is set up correctly
#1554 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Barring any software firewalls, you should be all set
#1555 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Is your server running?
#1556 [14:01] <eragon2262> okay thanks. gotta reset the router to complete the port forwarding
#1557 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#1558 [14:06] <eragon2262> still wont connect to 192.168.0.7
#1559 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1560 [14:07] <eragon2262> the start.server.bat file is running
#1561 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Wait, are you running a free classic server, or a beta server?
#1562 [14:07] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The maps! (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/HE4v28
#1563 [14:07] <eragon2262> beta server i believe
#1564 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Start-server.bat is classic
#1565 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> The beta server is available here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1566 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
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#1568 [14:10] <eragon2262> okay i ran the prograp
#1569 [14:11] <eragon2262> said "failed to bind to port"
#1570 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Exit out of the server you have running before running the beta one
#1571 [14:12] <eragon2262> already did
#1572 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Did you mess with server-ip in server.properties?
#1573 [14:12] <eragon2262> havent touched any of that
#1574 [14:13] <NinjaKirby> Everyone loves having a good rummage in the ol' dot property files, Mmm yeah
#1575 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Could you delete everything in the folder, and run the beta server fresh?
#1576 [14:13] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1577 [14:13] <eragon2262> yeah lemme try that
#1578 [14:13] <eragon2262> just delete the whole server info folder in .minecraft?
#1579 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Wait, the server shouldn't have any files in .minecraft
#1580 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Just have the server in a folder, by itself
#1581 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Once you run it, it'll generate more files in the same folder
#1582 [14:16] <eragon2262> sweet got it thanks
#1583 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Great
#1584 [14:17] <eragon2262> should be that same IP address tho right?
#1585 [14:17] <eragon2262> the 168 one
#1586 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> If you want to access it inside your home network, use the 192.168.0.x address
#1587 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> If you want people to access it outside your home, use your public address
#1588 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> The 65.102.200.162
#1589 [14:18] <eragon2262> sweet
#1590 [14:19] <NinjaKirby> Any Portal experts in the house? (For clarity, fixing Overworld-Nether Gate Links)
#1591 [14:24] <eragon2262> thanks greyvulpine
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#1593 [14:25] <bokaholic> Hmm.. There has to be a way to keep animals from being on tracks.
#1594 [14:25] <g> bokaholic: kill them
#1595 [14:25] <g> :P
#1596 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> Pretend to be Legolas sliding on a Shield, like everyone else, 100 times more fun that way.
#1597 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> You'll wish there are animals on the track then
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#1599 [14:26] <bokaholic> Heh
#1600 [14:26] <VoxelHead> =]
#1601 [14:27] <NinjaKirby> Firing your mighty Bow in there general direction, whilst being ejected at high speed with the new Powered Tracks
#1602 [14:27] <relsqui> XD
#1603 [14:27] <bokaholic> :T
#1604 [14:28] <bokaholic> You are the oposite of helpful, sir.
#1605 [14:28] <NinjaKirby> Sorry -_- In a funky mood
#1606 [14:28] <bokaholic> :)
#1607 [14:28] <NinjaKirby> Actually thinking about it properly, I can't say I have any great idea's
#1608 [14:28] <relsqui> bokaholic: historically I have used fences
#1609 [14:28] * bokaholic sobs into her palms. "STUPID ANIMALS I HATE YOU SO!"
#1609 [14:28] <relsqui> or of course raised track
#1610 [14:28] <bokaholic> "Fence all around the tracks?
#1611 [14:28] <Morrolan> Just let some carts run around the tracks all the time, they'll take care of the animals.
#1612 [14:29] <Morrolan> the track*
#1613 [14:29] <bokaholic> Raised.. Mine is a bit raised. But going through hills and such the livestock totally fall onto the tracks still.
#1614 [14:29] <NinjaKirby> Netherrack, walls of fire down each side of the track, hehe, they'll fall in those before you reach them
#1615 [14:29] <relsqui> yeah--what I did was fence the edges of the track where they were level, and then cut back cliffs etc. so that things can't jump/fall in
#1616 [14:30] <bokaholic> Light them on fire. >:D
#1617 [14:30] <NinjaKirby> Think you can actually pick up cooked meat from Pigs too now, awesome bonus
#1618 [14:30] <relsqui> ha really?
#1619 [14:30] <relsqui> if you kill them with fire?
#1620 [14:30] <bokaholic> lol
#1621 [14:30] <NinjaKirby> I've found them once sitting by the fires on my beach, but only once so far
#1622 [14:31] <NinjaKirby> Maybe it's a random thing as to whether they are cooked or not
#1623 [14:33] <g> KILL IT WITH FIRE
#1624 [14:33] <g> :P
#1625 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Probably was struck by lightning
#1626 [14:33] <g> No
#1627 [14:33] <g> they turn into pigmen
#1628 [14:33] <g> if that happens
#1629 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Oh right
#1630 [14:34] <NinjaKirby> I'm sure I read it somewhere, let me try and source it
#1631 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pig
#1632 [14:34] <NinjaKirby> lol, noted in the Version History for v1.5 on the same Wiki
#1633 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> "In Beta 1.5, A pig set on fire and killed whilst on fire will drop a Cooked Porkchop, which can save you some furnace fuel. "
#1634 [14:34] <NinjaKirby> And some cooky grinding time, god yes
#1635 [14:35] <NinjaKirby> Cooking meat, the only time sink I detest
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#1637 [14:37] * g considers the best way to do feed parsing
#1637 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Stab it with a spork.
#1638 [14:38] <g> :P
#1639 [14:38] <g> If anyone has any suggestions/knows C++, feel free to chip in :P
#1640 [14:38] <g> Everything is up at http://is.gd/xOS6n9
#1641 [14:38] <Morrolan> Hmm, set up a website which grabs that feed, connect to that site, grab the HTML source and extract it from there? :D
#1642 [14:39] <g> no, lol
#1643 [14:39] <g> I'm doing it directly
#1644 [14:39] <Morrolan> I hope so. :D
#1645 [14:39] <g> :P
#1646 [14:41] <slimer> hey guys, whenever i try to connect to a smp server it says 'Logging in' for a bit before changing to Disconnected by Server: Took too lo
#1647 [14:41] <relsqui> slimer: is this true on different servers?
#1648 [14:42] <slimer> let me check'
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#1650 [14:44] <slimer> yes, it does
#1651 [14:45] <slimer> relsqui yes it is
#1652 [14:45] <slimer> bad grammar sorry
#1653 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Can you try smp.shadow-craft.net
#1654 [14:46] <slimer> >Logging in...
#1655 [14:46] <slimer> >Connection lost: End of stream
#1656 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall of minecraft then
#1657 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on?
#1658 [14:47] <slimer> Windows 7
#1659 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/reinst
#1660 [14:48] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1661 [14:48] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1662 [14:48] <slimer> Just reinstall the jar?
#1663 [14:48] <g> Do what the bot jsut said to do
#1664 [14:48] <slimer> Also im running 1.4 as my servers haven't updated yet
#1665 [14:48] <g> oh
#1666 [14:48] <slimer> alrighty
#1667 [14:48] <g> there's your problem
#1668 [14:49] <g> pretty well all servers have updated now :P
#1669 [14:49] <slimer> actually
#1670 [14:49] <slimer> yeah
#1671 [14:49] <slimer> whoops
#1672 [14:49] <slimer> thanks :P
#1673 [14:49] <VoxelHead> Hi floor... make me a sandwich.
#1674 [14:49] <g> vox, shut up
#1675 [14:49] <VoxelHead> hai!
#1676 [14:49] <slimer> that's better... i guess :B
#1677 [14:50] <g> Time to work on the bot's settings then
#1678 [14:50] <g> And then I can begin work on its first command :D
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#1682 [14:56] <bm1ofamillion> hey
#1683 [14:56] <Morrolan> hey bm1ofamillion
#1684 [14:57] <bm1ofamillion> g, and the other dude (if you are on) i uninstalled and reinstalled java just now and got it to work lol
#1685 [14:57] <bm1ofamillion> thanks for the help
#1686 [14:57] <bm1ofamillion> and hi morrolan ^^
#1687 [14:57] <bm1ofamillion> well c ya later
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#1693 [15:04] <Sikelik> hey, anyone got any idea how to fix the errors with the server software? getting lots of nullpointexceptions at start, and players can't log on anymore
#1694 [15:05] <oldtopman> Sikelik: Vanilla server?
#1695 [15:05] <Sikelik> yes
#1696 [15:06] <oldtopman> hmm
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#1698 [15:06] <Sikelik> latest minecraft_server.jar as well
#1699 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the errors, give us the URL
#1700 [15:06] <oldtopman> Sikelik: Make a new map just to test if you get the errors
#1701 [15:13] <Sikelik> renamed world-folder to world_old and started server. everything worked fine. is my world corrupt ?
#1702 [15:13] <g> Quite possibly
#1703 [15:13] <Sikelik> hmm, that kinda sucks
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#1705 [15:14] <g> Try opening it in mcedit or something and resaving it
#1706 [15:17] <dopeghoti> Sikelik: also, had the server ever been run with any mods?
#1707 [15:17] <dopeghoti> that could, if so, be the cause.
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#1709 [15:21] <Sikelik> never run any mods no
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#1711 [15:23] <Sikelik> getting some info about incorrect chunk format in some areas
#1712 [15:24] <VoxelHead> Mmm Szernex.
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#1714 [15:25] <g> vox, stfu
#1715 [15:27] * VoxelHead stamps its foot
#1715 [15:28] <Sikelik> hm, a bit uncertain about how to use mcedit. can i fix the area where the chunk is missing?
#1716 [15:28] <Sikelik> it's a big hole in the ground
#1717 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Try using the chunk tool, right most button
#1718 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> to delete it
#1719 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: I have not used MCEdit; do you happen to know if it can assign biome data?
#1720 [15:29] <VoxelHead> so, like, purple dildos
#1721 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so
#1722 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> vox, please be quiet.
#1723 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Haven't used it in a few revisions though, so I could be wrong
#1724 [15:29] <Morrolan> Dope: Nah, it can't AFAIK.
#1725 [15:30] <Morrolan> I think Biome info is stored separately.
#1726 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> You might need that NBTedit tool to do that
#1727 [15:30] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#1727 [15:30] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#1728 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> hmm, I'll look into that
#1729 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> I'd like it to snow in the snowy areas that were explored pre-biome
#1730 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> (and for ice to refreeze)
#1731 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, the worldedit tool for bukkit has a /thaw command, wonder if it has its opposite
#1732 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> hm
#1733 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> It's got a /snow command
#1734 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/WorldEdit/Reference
#1735 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> But I'm fairly sure /thaw and /snow don't actually change the biome data
#1736 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Just lays down snow/removes it
#1737 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> meh.
#1738 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> thanks for skimming on my behalf though
#1739 [15:33] * DopeGhoti Ses TFW for NBTEdit
#1739 [15:33] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Just hop over to #risucraft, there might be a tool for what you want.
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#1741 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> sadly, apparently, not, Morrolan
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#1743 [15:50] <Morrolan> Oh, shame.
#1744 [15:50] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#1745 [15:50] <Morrolan> Could they atleast tell you where it's stored?
#1746 [15:51] <_303> store = level seed
#1747 [15:51] <Morrolan> Oh.
#1748 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> apparently, according to the #risucraftians, it is not stored, but calculated based on seed and location in realtime
#1749 [15:51] <Morrolan> No possibility of creating a tool which changes the biome then. :/
#1750 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> not unless I get a reply from @notch (:
#1751 [15:52] <_303> how do you want it to be stored? in chunks?
#1752 [15:53] <_303> biome data is two floats -- temperature and humidity
#1753 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> Well, the situation I'm trying to resolve is this:
#1754 [15:53] <_303> per x and z (horizontal coordinates)
#1755 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/
#1756 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> all that snow in the centre is pre-biome terrain
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#1758 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> I'd like it to snow there; have ice refreeze again, etc.
#1759 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Nuking the world and starting over is.. suboptimal.
#1760 [15:54] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: What if, for some reason, you accidentally, euhm, deleted some chunks?
#1761 [15:54] <Morrolan> Oh, ok.
#1762 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> I asked; my players would rater not lose all of their hard work (much of which is underground)
#1763 [15:55] <_303> if you just want it to snow at some points, you could make a mod that takes into account some beacons or center points with radius around which it would snow, which would override biome info
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#1765 [15:55] <_303> would not require changing the save format as much
#1766 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> Hmm.
#1767 [15:56] <mib_jitf1i> When i want to register me on the minecraft website, there isn't any capatcha code.
#1768 [15:57] <mib_jitf1i> can somebody help me?
#1769 [15:57] <Morrolan> Hmm? Like, it doesn't show?
#1770 [15:57] <Morrolan> Tried a different browser already?
#1771 [15:57] <Morrolan> Oh, it's not here for me as well.
#1772 [15:57] <mib_jitf1i> yes, the internet explorer.
#1773 [15:58] <mib_jitf1i> :D
#1774 [15:58] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1775 [15:58] <Morrolan> I guess someone messed up. :D
#1776 [15:58] <Morrolan> Can someone verify that it REALLY isn't there?
#1777 [15:58] <maestrojed> I purchased minecraft. I am on OSX. I can't get it to run. The standalone won't work and neither will FF4,Safari or Chrome. I *think* my jave install if fine. Any suggestions?
#1778 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you get it to run maestrojed?
#1779 [15:58] <Morrolan> What does "won't work" mean?
#1780 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to launch the standalone in a terminal?
#1781 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> (inb4 chmod +x)
#1782 [15:59] <maestrojed> When I run the standalone it just bounces once in the dock and then nothing.
#1783 [15:59] <maestrojed> GreyVulpine I will try running it from cli
#1784 [15:59] <Morrolan> mib: I guess we'll have to wait for Mojang to fix it then. :D
#1785 [16:00] <maestrojed> When I run it in the browser I get a about 3 trust questions then just a white screen. When I run console it seems to stall when talking to amazon s3. I will try to get a log of that for you guys
#1786 [16:00] <mib_jitf1i> do you know when he is online? sorry for my bad englisch;)
#1787 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> maestrojed - Do you get any sort of error using CLI in the terminal
#1788 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> If you do, can you pastebin.com it
#1789 [16:01] <maestrojed> GreyVulpine was "(inb4 chmod +x)" for me? I am not sure what you mean by that
#1790 [16:01] <Morrolan> mib: Well, in sweden (where Mojang resides) it's 10 P.M. (22:00) atm, so I guess they won't be at the ofice anymore, you'll have to wait until tomorrow.
#1791 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Just ignore what I said about chmod for now
#1792 [16:01] <Morrolan> If it's the fault of the captcha provider though it might be fixed sooner.
#1793 [16:03] <mib_jitf1i> okay thank you morrolan. i live in germany. here its 10 p.m., too;)
#1794 [16:03] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#1795 [16:03] <Morrolan> hey, it's back
#1796 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> maestrojed - Do you get any sort of error using CLI in the terminal
#1797 [16:03] <Morrolan> Oh, too late.
#1798 [16:04] <Morrolan> I think it just took ages to load. :/
#1799 [16:04] <maestrojed> GreyVulpine HeHe, I didn't know how to run it from commandline. I googled that. Found this http://adamkaminski.com/minecraft-wont-open-on-mac-os-x Seems like what you were saying with the chmod thing. But is seems to be running now
#1800 [16:04] <maestrojed> GreyVulpine Thank you!
#1801 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Heh, alright then
#1802 [16:06] <Morrolan> Problems which solve themselves are always awesome :D
#1803 [16:07] <maestrojed> I had googled osx minecraft issues but it wasn't until I added the "terminal" keyword that I found that post :)
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#1805 [16:15] <Sari> For a reason my husband and I can't figure out, mobs keep spawning in our locked up well lit house in the middle of the night and attacking us, and we're becoming increasingly paranoid that one of these nights it's going to be a creeper.
#1806 [16:15] <Sari> Anyone know why this might be?
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#1808 [16:18] <Morrolan> Does it happen while sleeping in a bed or all the time?
#1809 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> ??> maestrojed mac/permissions
#1810 [16:18] <VoxelHead> maestrojed: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1811 [16:18] <VoxelHead> maestrojed: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1812 [16:18] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: It's already fixed :D
#1813 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1814 [16:18] <Sari> Seemingly while sleeping in a bed
#1815 [16:18] * DopeGhoti was apparently scrolled up a ways. Oops.
#1815 [16:18] <Sari> If we're awake, we can be outside the house in our fort and nothing'll spawn
#1816 [16:19] <Sari> The beds are more than 2 tiles from any wall
#1817 [16:19] <maestrojed> DopeGhoti Thank you though!
#1818 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1819 [16:19] <Sari> We've tried two different floors and things still spawn
#1820 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> Sari: how thick is the ceiling/roof?
#1821 [16:19] <Sari> the walls are half glass, I don't know if that contributes
#1822 [16:19] <Morrolan> Sari: I've seen several people who have issues with mobs spawning on them while sleeping in a bed, it might be bugged.
#1823 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: "might" *snrk*
#1824 [16:19] <Sari> Um when it was the first floor it had a full floor above it
#1825 [16:20] <Sari> Second floor has just one tile for the ceiling, and an overhang for spiders
#1826 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> Sari: as an experiment, try double-thick walls, floor, and ceiling.
#1827 [16:20] <Sari> It's inside a barricaded fort that's well lit, the house is well lit, there's no good reason they should be spawning on the roof or anywhere nearby
#1828 [16:20] <Sari> Our fort has doublethick walls as does the house, just not the roof
#1829 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> (I am dealing with a similar issue on my server, and a 'bunker mentality' for beds seems to be helping)
#1830 [16:20] <Sari> Thank you
#1831 [16:21] <Morrolan> Sari: I think there was a guy who managed to fix it by lightning all the caves below his house.
#1832 [16:21] <Morrolan> If you have the time it's worth a shot I think.
#1833 [16:21] <Sari> Eek.
#1834 [16:21] <Sari> No, we've got a whole cave system beneath our fort area, though not directly below the house
#1835 [16:22] <Sari> Nothing closer than 20 blocks
#1836 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> that ought to be distant enough
#1837 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> talk about monsters under the bed, eh?
#1838 [16:22] <Morrolan> ^^
#1839 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> (fortunately, I have never seen a bedaported creeper. *knocks on wood*)
#1840 [16:22] <VoxelHead> =D
#1841 [16:23] <VoxelHead> I know... i'm scared too.
#1842 [16:23] <Morrolan> That AI is... scary.
#1843 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> a> it has its moments. b> it's not AI; it's GS. More authentic.
#1844 [16:24] <oldtopman> Sari: I have the same glitch.
#1845 [16:25] <Sari> It sucks. Quite a lot.
#1846 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> (GS (abbrev.): Genuine Stupidity)
#1847 [16:25] <Sari> Perfectly safe if you stay up, but if you sleep you get ganked 4, 5 times.
#1848 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> Bedbugs: putting the 'S' into 'SMP'.
#1849 [16:26] <Sari> dopefish: I told my husband that, he laughed
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#1851 [16:26] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :DID SOMEBODY SAY DOPEFISH?
#1852 [16:26] <oldtopman> Sari: You have a local server?
#1853 [16:26] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I LOVE COMMANDER KEEN!
#1854 [16:27] <Sari> oldtopman: On my husband's comp
#1855 [16:27] <Sari> Daxar: Uhh..
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#1857 [16:27] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Yes?
#1858 [16:27] <Sari> What's that about dopefish?
#1859 [16:27] <oldtopman> Sari: I presume disabling monsters is not an acceptable answer.
#1860 [16:27] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I dunno. You said "dopefish"
#1861 [16:28] <bread> doopfish?
#1862 [16:28] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Dopefish is this cool creature from Commander Keen.
#1863 [16:28] <Sari> oldtopman: We could, but that'd take a lot of my husband's fun out of it.
#1864 [16:28] <Sari> Daxar: What did you think DopeGhoti meant?
#1865 [16:28] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#1866 [16:28] <Sari> Ghoti = fish
#1867 [16:28] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Ghoti = fish?
#1868 [16:28] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Really?
#1869 [16:28] <Morrolan> Would be something for "today I learned" :D
#1870 [16:28] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I dinnot no that.
#1871 [16:29] <Sari> gh from enough, o from women, ti from anticipaTIon
#1872 [16:29] <Sari> It's an old phonemic riddle
#1873 [16:29] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :DopeGhoti: Is this a Commander Keen reference?
#1874 [16:29] <Morrolan> !wiki ghoti
#1875 [16:29] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti
#1876 [16:29] <GreyBot> Ghoti is a constructed word used to illustrate irregularities in English spelling. It is a respelling of the word fish, i.e., it is supposed to be pronounced /ˈfɪʃ/. Its components include:
#1877 [16:29] <Sari> Yep, that
#1878 [16:30] <Morrolan> I'm... astonished to say the least.
#1879 [16:30] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :cool.
#1880 [16:30] <VoxelHead> Coooooooooooool.
#1881 [16:30] <oldtopman> Sari: Hmm. Have you tried another bed?
#1882 [16:30] <oldtopman> In another building?
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#1886 [16:33] <JACK101> hello
#1887 [16:34] <Morrolan> hey Jack101
#1888 [16:34] <JACK101> I have a problem
#1889 [16:34] <NotiCon> ?? ask
#1890 [16:34] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1891 [16:34] <Morrolan> Sure thing, what do you need?
#1892 [16:34] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1893 [16:34] <JACK101> when i try to register the prove your human thing does not appear?
#1894 [16:34] <VoxelHead> mmm The_observer
#1895 [16:34] <Morrolan> You have to wait for some minutes, it takes ages to load at the moment.
#1896 [16:34] <Morrolan> Seems to be overloaded somehow.
#1897 [16:34] <JACK101> oh
#1898 [16:35] <JACK101> thank you good sir for the information
#1899 [16:35] <JACK101> now I'm off
#1900 [16:35] <JACK101> good-bye for most likely ever
#1901 [16:35] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#1902 [16:35] <JACK101> hope you all have decent lives!
#1903 [16:35] <JACK101> thank you!
#1904 [16:35] <Morrolan> Hope so too. :D
#1905 [16:35] <Morrolan> Another happy customer. :D
#1906 [16:36] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :He'll probably be playing it for a few hours solid when he finally gets it.
#1907 [16:36] <oldtopman> O.O
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#1909 [16:36] <oldtopman> He was here all along...
#1910 [16:37] <Morrolan> oldtopman: Haha, you were wondering where xales was all the time too?
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#1912 [16:37] <xales> ._.
#1913 [16:37] <oldtopman> Just a little.
#1914 [16:37] <Sari> What's the most material-efficient way to make charcoal?
#1915 [16:38] <Morrolan> Euhm, is there more than one way anyway?
#1916 [16:38] <Daxar> 468:c80:4240:223:14ff:fe5f:7648 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Dig
#1917 [16:38] <oldtopman> None of the other ops like me so yeah :p
#1918 [16:38] <oldtopman> Sari: Wood planks
#1919 [16:38] <Sari> Burning wood planks using wood planks?
#1920 [16:38] <VoxelHead> dootie!
#1921 [16:38] <Sari> Thank you
#1922 [16:38] <g> Burning wood planks with sticks?
#1923 [16:38] <g> do they last?
#1924 [16:38] <Sari> I dunno, let me try
#1925 [16:39] <Morrolan> Sari: Actually I'd say it's burning wood planks with sticks, and then with charcoal.
#1926 [16:39] <g> or if you get some charcoal
#1927 [16:39] <VoxelHead> That's my favourite show.
#1928 [16:39] <g> burn wood with it
#1929 [16:39] <g> vox, shut up
#1930 [16:39] <VoxelHead> weee hehehehehehehehe
#1931 [16:39] <VoxelHead> fine
#1932 [16:39] <Sari> Wood sticks don't ignite
#1933 [16:39] <g> what? they used to..
#1934 [16:39] <Morrolan> Hmm, they should actually.
#1935 [16:39] <Sari> They aren't for me on smp
#1936 [16:39] <NotiCon> you need to stick wood blocks in bottom
#1937 [16:39] <g> No
#1938 [16:39] <g> You can burn wood sticks
#1939 [16:39] <g> I'm certain of it
#1940 [16:39] <Sari> Burning sticks iwth planks or planks with sticks, either way, no ignition
#1941 [16:39] <NotiCon> err top*
#1942 [16:39] <NotiCon> in order to get charcoal
#1943 [16:40] <g> I think you need to burn logs
#1944 [16:40] <g> (in the top)
#1945 [16:40] <NotiCon> ye logs to get charcoals
#1946 [16:42] <oldtopman> Sari: To get charcoal, you have to burn wood.
#1947 [16:42] <NotiCon> logs
#1948 [16:42] <oldtopman> Not burning planks, or sticks.
#1949 [16:42] <Sari> I've got it burning now, thank you
#1950 [16:42] <oldtopman> But just the wood.
#1951 [16:42] <Sari> Burning wood logs with planks
#1952 [16:43] <g> Why don't you burn logs with charcoal?
#1953 [16:43] <g> That'd be the most efficient way
#1954 [16:43] <NotiCon> burn logs with logs
#1955 [16:43] <Sari> I'm making charcoal
#1956 [16:43] <g> trolololo
#1957 [16:43] <NotiCon> or coal
#1958 [16:43] <Sari> If I had charcoal I wouldn't need charcoal
#1959 [16:43] <g> xD
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#1961 [16:43] <enSTUDque> is there anyone here that can offer assistance with fcraft?
#1962 [16:44] <g> #fcraft
#1963 [16:44] <enSTUDque> theres no one there
#1964 [16:44] <NotiCon> then there is none to offer assistance with it :(
#1965 [16:44] <Morrolan> You must have mistyped it.
#1966 [16:44] <Morrolan> Plenty of people there for me.
#1967 [16:45] <g> yeah, same
#1968 [16:45] <NotiCon> enSTUDque: double click it
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#1970 [16:45] <g> He was already in there
#1971 [16:45] <g> lol
#1972 [16:45] <Morrolan> Yea, you're welcome. :)
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#1976 [16:55] <VoxelHead> bye Tonux
#1977 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> Wood sticks are the most inefficient fuel
#1978 [17:00] <VoxelHead> hooray for earth!
#1979 [17:01] <NotiCon> agreed VoxelHead
#1980 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> we did the math, optimal is to clearcut trees, and use stacks of planks to burn stacks of logs
#1981 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> a two planks' worth of sticks burns for much less time than just the two planks
#1982 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> but four planks burn for longer than one log.
#1983 [17:02] <NotiCon> one coal/charcoal burns for 8 units
#1984 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> Obviously, once you _have_ the coal, use that for fuel, unless you're using it to make more coal.
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#1989 [17:16] <BigMike> I have an issue
#1990 [17:16] <Morrolan> yea?
#1991 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> Of which periodical?
#1992 [17:16] <BigMike> when minecraft gets to about 909 mb of ram, it goes to a black screen and i have to shut it down
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#1994 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> how much RAM has your computer got?
#1995 [17:17] <BigMike> 4 gigs
#1996 [17:17] <BigMike> im running a server off here too
#1997 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Hm.
#1998 [17:17] <BigMike> gtx 260 with 896 mb ddr5 ram
#1999 [17:17] <BigMike> core 2 quad
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#2001 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> what O/S?
#2002 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> Any mods?
#2003 [17:18] <BigMike> win 7
#2004 [17:18] <BigMike> no mods
#2005 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> any texture packs?
#2006 [17:18] <BigMike> i already nuked my .minecraft folder once
#2007 [17:19] <BigMike> no texture packs
#2008 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/profile
#2009 [17:19] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2010 [17:19] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2011 [17:19] <g> Less than a gig of ram
#2012 [17:19] <g> Not a chance
#2013 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> 14:18 < BigMike> 4 gigs
#2014 [17:19] <g> oh right
#2015 [17:19] <g> I saw his graphics ram
#2016 [17:19] <g> lol
#2017 [17:19] <BigMike> haha
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#2019 [17:19] <BigMike> no worries
#2020 [17:19] <VoxelHead> dumb like a moose.
#2021 [17:19] <g> vox, be quiet :P
#2022 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> That is an odd amount of RAM.
#2023 [17:20] * VoxelHead talks to Sirrush instead
#2023 [17:20] <BigMike> yeah, its a nasty card though
#2024 [17:20] <BigMike> xfx
#2025 [17:20] <BigMike> its done me well
#2026 [17:20] <NinjaKirby> I have the same, it's a legend Card
#2027 [17:20] <Sirrush> Hmm?
#2028 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> still.. /me points up
#2029 [17:20] <BigMike> but i fear it become outdated
#2030 [17:20] <Sirrush> Who dare kill my idling streak? :P
#2031 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> Sirrush: g, apparently.
#2032 [17:20] <Sirrush> Unimpossible.
#2033 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#2034 [17:21] <g> :P
#2035 [17:21] <kelinu> We cannot discern the impossibility of the possibly impossible fact.
#2036 [17:21] <BigMike> i swear im about to say screw it and just go to unbuntu
#2037 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> BigMike: I approve of the prospect of moving to Linux (:
#2038 [17:22] <BigMike> lol, ive done it before, but i just love windows at times, but then the rest of the time id like to kill it
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#2040 [17:22] <BigMike> with a really big stick
#2041 [17:22] <kelinu> i'm currently using arch linux
#2042 [17:22] <eggy> Linux is great >.>
#2043 [17:22] <kelinu> really good distro
#2044 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> I have a Win7 partition into which I boot exclusively for games that WINE doesn't play well with.
#2045 [17:23] <wheybags> kelinu: arch ftw
#2046 [17:23] <BigMike> im dual booting ubunut 10.04
#2047 [17:23] <BigMike> ubuntu
#2048 [17:23] * DopeGhoti likes Gentoo and Ubuntu; I still need to mess around with Arch.
#2048 [17:23] <kelinu> @DopeGhoti that's exactly what i'm doing
#2049 [17:24] <kelinu> never was that fond of gentoo
#2050 [17:24] <kelinu> used to use ubuntu for around two years
#2051 [17:24] <kelinu> then i switched to arch just a few months ago
#2052 [17:24] <kelinu> really, really nice, if you know your way around linux a bit
#2053 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> well, given that I graduated from Gentoo, Arch should be a snap, then (:
#2054 [17:25] <kelinu> arch should be simple enough if you use gentoo
#2055 [17:25] <BigMike> ive heard gentoo is only for super awesome cool people, is this true?
#2056 [17:26] <kelinu> haha
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#2058 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2059 [17:26] <BigMike> this time it froze at 887 mb of ram
#2060 [17:26] <kelinu> i'll try gentoo in a virtual machine when i get the time
#2061 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> BigMike: not so much that, as people who like the portage package manager (I do) and like knowing what and how their system does what it does.
#2062 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> A Gentoo install is like a house of cards, but they also give you the rubber cement for when it's finally how you want it to be (:
#2063 [17:28] <kelinu> pacman + AUR do it for me
#2064 [17:28] <BigMike> ive considered trying my hand at it
#2065 [17:28] <BigMike> my buddy jake did it for his machine
#2066 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> <3 portage, but I understand AUR to be similar
#2067 [17:30] <kelinu> i've yet to find one piece of software not in the AUR or pacman repos
#2068 [17:30] <kelinu> i'm very happy with arch
#2069 [17:31] <kelinu> although i reinstalled
#2070 [17:31] <kelinu> because at first i installed KDE
#2071 [17:31] <BigMike> bleh
#2072 [17:31] <kelinu> and that was so unstable
#2073 [17:31] <kelinu> and i couldnt stand it, so reinstalled arch
#2074 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> why not just remove KDE?
#2075 [17:31] <kelinu> i did, but it left lots of stuff behind
#2076 [17:31] <kelinu> qt things
#2077 [17:32] <kelinu> littered up my arch installation if you know what i mean
#2078 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> bad package manager, no cookie!
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#2080 [17:32] <kelinu> not the package managers fault, kde's the culprit :P
#2081 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> um
#2082 [17:32] <kelinu> also
#2083 [17:32] <kelinu> i had some programs installed
#2084 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> if installing a package, and removing it leaves cruft, that's a problem with the package manger.
#2085 [17:32] <kelinu> that kind of "interfaced" with kde
#2086 [17:33] <kelinu> and i couldnt remove those all singlehandedly
#2087 [17:33] <kelinu> one by one
#2088 [17:33] <kelinu> anyway now i'm taking a masochistic route and i'm doing away with desktop environments
#2089 [17:33] <kelinu> i've just got openbox installed
#2090 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> the only desktop I need is screen/byobu (:
#2091 [17:34] <kelinu> and i just install the software i need
#2092 [17:34] <kelinu> nice and lightweight
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#2094 [17:42] <BigMike> got any tips for finding wolves?
#2095 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> BigMike: Look for forest thickly populated with trees. Bring bones.
#2096 [17:43] <BigMike> got 6 bones with me
#2097 [17:43] <DopeGhoti> Listen for dying sheep/cows/chickens which wild wolved attack on sight.
#2098 [17:43] <BigMike> will walking around with the bones in hand hlep you think?
#2099 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> don't do what I did and whap wolves upside the head with raw pork. That makes them angry.
#2100 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> made no difference for me
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#2102 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> For example, on my server, I found a lot of wolves around here: http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/?x=-1356&y=64&z=-664&zoom=-1
#2103 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> so when I say thickly-wooded, I mean it (:
#2104 [17:45] <VoxelHead> Do you have any taquitos?
#2105 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> vox: no
#2106 [17:46] <BigMike> my whole world is thickly wooded just about
#2107 [17:46] <VoxelHead> it's me! I was the turkey all along!
#2108 [17:46] * DopeGhoti shoots VoxelHead
#2108 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> mmm, turkey
#2109 [17:46] * VoxelHead shoots DopeGhoti
#2109 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> ow!
#2110 [17:46] <VoxelHead> awww
#2111 [17:46] * VoxelHead rubs Dopeghoti better
#2111 [17:46] <DopeGhoti> :D
#2112 [17:46] <BigMike> ive been roaming my world for 4 minecraft days with nothing to show for it except 1 million slabs of pork
#2113 [17:46] <VoxelHead> :)
#2114 [17:49] <kelinu> by the way
#2115 [17:49] <kelinu> does anyone have this bug
#2116 [17:49] <kelinu> where if you exit fullscreen
#2117 [17:49] <kelinu> you cant click on the menus?
#2118 [17:49] <kelinu> unless you go back into fullscreen that is?
#2119 [17:50] <BigMike> i have that when coming back from an alt tab from time to time
#2120 [17:50] <kelinu> and whats with the score message when you die?
#2121 [17:50] <lemon-rev> thats where you have to active another app on your pc then switch back to mc, i belive its just a error with the game not seeing the mouse once you have minimised the screeen again
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#2123 [17:51] <lemon-rev> just dont do, it, otherwise you might want to think about painly just streching the window to full screen and forgo the total full screen effect
#2124 [17:51] <mib_47p2a5> can anybody help with a loading problem?
#2125 [17:51] <Morrolan> mib: Yep
#2126 [17:52] <Morrolan> kelinu: I think it might have something to do with the resizing of the GUI: :/
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#2128 [17:52] <mib_47p2a5> when i log in, it says the loading is done, then it goes to the Mojang logo, but then it freezes an force quits itself
#2129 [17:52] <zelliott7234> delete the bin folder
#2130 [17:52] <zelliott7234> then let it redownload
#2131 [17:52] <zelliott7234> when you start mc again
#2132 [17:53] <zelliott7234> are you on mac or pc
#2133 [17:53] <mib_47p2a5> mac
#2134 [17:53] <Morrolan> ?? mac/reinst
#2135 [17:53] <BigMike> NUKE THE BIN
#2136 [17:53] <zelliott7234> oh
#2137 [17:53] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2138 [17:53] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2139 [17:53] <zelliott7234> yeah exactly
#2140 [17:53] <mib_47p2a5> ok thanks guys
#2141 [17:53] <Morrolan> Hope this helps. :)
#2142 [17:53] <zelliott7234> NP
#2143 [17:54] <zelliott7234> Is there a way to run a Hamachi server (I don't want to port forward) but all the connecters DON'T have to install Hamachi and connect to my Hamchi server>
#2144 [17:54] <zelliott7234> ?
#2145 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2146 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> It's how hamachi works
#2147 [17:54] <zelliott7234> oh okay thanks
#2148 [17:54] <mib_47p2a5> it worked! thanks everybody!
#2149 [17:54] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#2150 [17:54] <zelliott7234> NP bro ;)
#2151 [17:54] <zelliott7234> i love minecraft
#2152 [17:55] <BigMike> i just sucked it up and forwarded the ports
#2153 [17:55] <zelliott7234> yea but my dad won't let me
#2154 [17:55] <zelliott7234> i would
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#2156 [17:55] <zelliott7234> but i shouldn't
#2157 [17:55] <a10> hey guys
#2158 [17:55] <Morrolan> hi
#2159 [17:55] <BigMike> howdy
#2160 [17:55] <zelliott7234> i told him how and he googled "port forward safety"
#2161 [17:55] <zelliott7234> oh hey guys
#2162 [17:56] <kelinu> port forwarding is fairly simple
#2163 [17:56] <zelliott7234> i know
#2164 [17:56] <kelinu> and if you're concerned about safety
#2165 [17:56] <Morrolan> zelliot: Oh, I can imanige what happened then. D:
#2166 [17:56] <zelliott7234> but still its apparently not safe
#2167 [17:56] <kelinu> simply close the ports after a game session
#2168 [17:56] <zelliott7234> i know
#2169 [17:56] <a10> i trying to install a mod, im following the instructions for ubuntu(linux), but when i login to minecraft the scren goes black and wont start the game?
#2170 [17:57] <g> delete the meta-inf folder
#2171 [17:57] <a10> i did
#2172 [17:57] <g> then you installed it wrong
#2173 [17:57] <zelliott7234> but i mean the sites my dad found sites that said "its a huge hole for hackers to get it"
#2174 [17:57] <g> or the mod isn't compativle
#2175 [17:57] <zelliott7234> and stuff like that
#2176 [17:57] <g> compatible*
#2177 [17:57] <Morrolan> a10: Most likely the mod isn't updated yet.
#2178 [17:57] <Morrolan> You'll need to reinstall minecraft in order for it to work again.
#2179 [17:57] <g> zelliott7234: No offense
#2180 [17:57] <g> but
#2181 [17:57] <g> your dad doesn't know what he's talking about
#2182 [17:57] <zelliott7234> i know
#2183 [17:57] <zelliott7234> he is a networking expert though
#2184 [17:58] <a10> its the portal mod, compatible with the latest update, and i think ive installed it right, i followed the directions step by step
#2185 [17:58] <g> I find that rather surprising
#2186 [17:58] <zelliott7234> he uses VPNS at work
#2187 [17:58] <a10> its done this every time
#2188 [17:58] <g> Everyone uses VPNs at work
#2189 [17:58] <Morrolan> a10: Hmm, you might have to ask its creator then. :/
#2190 [17:58] <kelinu> zelliott: in some ways, it can be viewed like that, but you need to exploit the application with the open port before you can "hack into pc"
#2191 [17:58] <zelliott7234> exactly
#2192 [17:58] <a10> alright, thanks
#2193 [17:58] <Morrolan> Sorry that we can't help you more. ;)
#2194 [17:58] <zelliott7234> he barely agreed to hamachi though
#2195 [17:58] <zelliott7234> idk some day i will
#2196 [17:58] <kelinu> if he'sa networking expert, why would he not know this stuff?
#2197 [17:59] <kelinu> or were you just being sarcastic?
#2198 [17:59] <zelliott7234> he uses top private VPN's
#2199 [17:59] <g> I would hope he's being sarcastic
#2200 [17:59] <zelliott7234> no im serious
#2201 [17:59] <g> That doesn't make him a networking expert
#2202 [17:59] <g> that just means he uses VPNs
#2203 [17:59] <zelliott7234> no seriously
#2204 [17:59] <zelliott7234> whatever
#2205 [17:59] <zelliott7234> he just doesn't port forward
#2206 [17:59] <g> VPNs are usually used to hide your IP
#2207 [17:59] <g> generally when you're doing something questionable
#2208 [17:59] <zelliott7234> hes very secure of our stuff
#2209 [18:00] <g> like watching porn or LOICing someone
#2210 [18:00] <zelliott7234> he made me add a password for hamachi
#2211 [18:00] <kelinu> what i'm getting at is that if he was a networking expert, he'd understand about port forwarding and wouldn't need to google it
#2212 [18:00] <g> If I were you, I'd confiscate his PC :P
#2213 [18:00] <zelliott7234> lmao
#2214 [18:00] <kelinu> @G: no, VPNs don't just mean that
#2215 [18:00] <zelliott7234> its cool guys
#2216 [18:00] <g> kelinu: I know
#2217 [18:00] <g> But that's what they're usually used for
#2218 [18:01] <kelinu> @zelliot - hamachi = VPN so he should have no problem letting you use it
#2219 [18:01] <zelliott7234> yes i know
#2220 [18:01] <g> Aside from the fact that hamachi is a terrible example of a vpn :P
#2221 [18:01] <kelinu> why is it terrible?
#2222 [18:02] <kelinu> its pretty good i find
#2223 [18:02] <zelliott7234> it is if you used it
#2224 [18:02] <g> Whenever I see someone try to use it irl, it breaks their internet connection
#2225 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> ?? hamachi/fubar
#2226 [18:02] <g> Same thing happened to me too
#2227 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> er
#2228 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2229 [18:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2230 [18:02] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2231 [18:02] <kelinu> never happened to me
#2232 [18:02] <VoxelHead> We have no time for these games!^@#$^^%percent^.
#2233 [18:03] <g> xD
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#2235 [18:04] <kelinu> can anyone enlighten me as to what the heck the Score is when you die?
#2236 [18:04] <BigMike> hehe, i work for the geek squad and ive seen three kids come in cause they were trying to use hamachi for maplestory private servers and it screwed up their pc's
#2237 [18:04] <zelliott7234> lmao
#2238 [18:04] <Morrolan> Kelinu: At the moment it's nothing.
#2239 [18:05] <Morrolan> In Infdev you used to get points for killed mobs.
#2240 [18:05] <kelinu> thats nice!
#2241 [18:05] <kelinu> why did he remove it?
#2242 [18:05] <Morrolan> No idea.
#2243 [18:05] <BigMike> why in gods name do i make a door for my house if skeletons can just shoot arrows through it, i am an unhappy camper
#2244 [18:06] <Morrolan> Use more door then!
#2245 [18:06] <zelliott7234> use an iron door
#2246 [18:06] <lemon-rev> bigmike just dont stand in front of your door then you git
#2247 [18:06] <zelliott7234> or do like a hall of doors
#2248 [18:06] <zelliott7234> and replace it in the morning xD
#2249 [18:07] <Morrolan> ^
#2250 [18:07] <Morrolan> (With TNT)
#2251 [18:07] <BigMike> lmao iron door wont work for this particular safe house
#2252 [18:07] <BigMike> and i wasn't standing in front of it
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#2254 [18:08] <kelinu> place the door from the outside of your house
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#2256 [18:08] <Morrolan> Kelinu: The problem stays.
#2257 [18:08] <kelinu> does it?
#2258 [18:08] <Morrolan> I think so, yes.
#2259 [18:08] <kelinu> is that like a new beta fix?
#2260 [18:08] <Morrolan> Arrows are able to fly through from any direction, only meele attacks can not.
#2261 [18:09] <Morrolan> (I think, so don't slap me if I'm wrong ^^)
#2262 [18:09] <kelinu> but ive had skeletons staring at me right in the face
#2263 [18:09] <kelinu> i dont know, maybe they like me :P
#2264 [18:09] * BigMike slaps Morrolan in the face
#2264 [18:09] <Morrolan> :(
#2265 [18:09] <Morrolan> Not only do you slap me, but you also make my client beep. :D
#2266 [18:10] <BigMike> ?
#2267 [18:10] <BigMike> ah
#2268 [18:10] <Morrolan> Notification if someone mentions my nick.
#2269 [18:10] <BigMike> cause i used your name lol
#2270 [18:10] <Morrolan> Yep. :D
#2271 [18:11] <BigMike> something ive never done is make a house inside of tree leaves, i need to do that now
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#2275 [18:22] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
#2276 [18:22] <Morrolan> No worries Vox, they'll come back.
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#2279 [18:29] <JACK101> and I'm bacl
#2280 [18:30] <JACK101> the prove your a human box is not loading
#2281 [18:30] <JACK101> why?
#2282 [18:30] <JACK101> anyone there?
#2283 [18:31] <BigMike> yeah
#2284 [18:31] <BigMike> but im hopelessly lost
#2285 [18:31] <JACK101> same
#2286 [18:31] <Morrolan> Jack: Yea, it used to load after a while, but now it's completely gone. :/
#2287 [18:31] <JACK101> how do I get it back?
#2288 [18:31] <JACK101> can I get it back?
#2289 [18:31] <Morrolan> You'll have to wait for them to fix it.
#2290 [18:31] <Morrolan> Not sure if it's the captcha provider or Mojang messing up though.
#2291 [18:31] <JACK101> -_-
#2292 [18:31] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#2293 [18:33] <JACK101> so anyone that wants to register now is pretty fucked
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#2295 [18:34] <g> the captcha is down?
#2296 [18:34] <g> Surely google didn't mess that up
#2297 [18:34] <g> it's fun to type swearwords instead of the obviously unknown word
#2298 [18:35] <JACK101> well anyways
#2299 [18:35] <JACK101> I'm off again
#2300 [18:35] <JACK101> good-bye
#2301 [18:35] <g> bai
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#2303 [18:41] <zelliott7234> bukkit is really buggy on 1.5_02
#2304 [18:41] <zelliott7234> for servers
#2305 [18:41] <g> and? :P
#2306 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> s/on 1.5_02//#FTFY
#2307 [18:41] <zelliott7234> well, anyone know when it will be a reccomended build
#2308 [18:41] <Drezi> i agree
#2309 [18:41] <Drezi> :P
#2310 [18:41] <g> ask #bukkit
#2311 [18:41] <Drezi> especially for bettershop and multiverse...
#2312 [18:41] <zelliott7234> okay
#2313 [18:42] <Drezi> at least for me
#2314 [18:42] <zelliott7234> cause everyone seems to have updated to 1.5_01
#2315 [18:42] <zelliott7234> and also, what are the weather commands; with no mods installed
#2316 [18:43] <Morrolan> None.
#2317 [18:43] <zelliott7234> okay
#2318 [18:45] <zelliott7234> thanks
#2319 [18:45] <VoxelHead> where'd my moose go?
#2320 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> vox: where do you think?
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#2322 [18:49] <MLoeven> i dont know what i did but i seem to have broken lava
#2323 [18:50] <MLoeven> it will incinerate items but it doesent seem to burn wooden blocks on contact and i dont take damage from it
#2324 [18:50] <VoxelHead> well, i had a coupon
#2325 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> MLoeven: any mods?
#2326 [18:50] <MLoeven> and ill be lit on fire but it goes out after a sec
#2327 [18:50] <VoxelHead> 69
#2328 [18:50] <Morrolan> MLoeven: Just reinstall Minecraft, should fix it.
#2329 [18:50] <MLoeven> so something is busted
#2330 [18:50] <MLoeven> but my mods
#2331 [18:50] <MLoeven> so many
#2332 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Try running with no mods.
#2333 [18:50] <MLoeven> you think maby a mod did it
#2334 [18:50] <MLoeven> by mistake
#2335 [18:51] <Morrolan> Most likely, yes.
#2336 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> I think maybe a mod is breaking things, yes
#2337 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> given that that's what they _do_..
#2338 [18:51] <MLoeven> what class file controls lava
#2339 [18:51] <Morrolan> No idea, ask in #risucraft or #mcp
#2340 [18:51] <_303> MLoeven: are you using SPC?
#2341 [18:51] <VoxelHead> Last night, yes.
#2342 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> vox, you're not helping.
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#2344 [19:02] <NinjaKirby> >_>
#2345 [19:03] <aetherian> he so is
#2346 [19:07] <MLoeven> meh risucraft doesent know but they did mention spc and yes damage is enabled i can still get hit by mobs i just cant catch fire and burn
#2347 [19:08] <MLoeven> so lava and fire does 0damage and will not ignite me for more than a second or two
#2348 [19:08] <MLoeven> mobs seem to die
#2349 [19:08] <Morrolan> Create a backup of your current minecraft.jar and reinstall then. If this fixes it you can still decide wheter you want to reinstall all the mods or to restore the backup.
#2350 [19:09] <MLoeven> did ayone see the colbert report last night
#2351 [19:09] <MLoeven> wrong window :P
#2352 [19:10] <MLoeven> sigh
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#2355 [19:18] <AG_Elias[CR]> I knew I was missing a channel on my bouncer.
#2356 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> greetings.
#2357 [19:25] <aetherian> bonjour
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#2360 [19:36] <VoxelHead> Mmm mloeven.
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#2363 [19:49] <Zanarkand69> Hi can any one help me with seting up a public minecraft sever?
#2364 [19:50] <xales> What aspect of that do you need help with?
#2365 [19:52] * xales pokes Zanarkand69
#2365 [19:53] <Zanarkand69> did u not get that msg?
#2366 [19:53] <xales> No, I didn't
#2367 [19:53] <Zanarkand69> i can get the sever up and i can connect my self but i dont know how to make it so some one who does not have the game can get on to it like the free public ones
#2368 [19:54] <xales> People who do not own the game cannot play it
#2369 [19:54] <xales> The game is not free
#2370 [19:54] <Zanarkand69> did it show up now?
#2371 [19:54] <xales> No, and first of all
#2372 [19:54] <xales> ?? irc/dontpm
#2373 [19:54] <VoxelHead> irc/dontpm: We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
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#2375 [19:56] <Zanarkand69> i know i mean the free sever that any one can play on how do u set one up i payed for the game and i can set up a sever that way and get it to work but am trying to set up the public one
#2376 [19:56] <xales> You set up a Classic server the same way you set up a Beta server
#2377 [19:57] <xales> http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#2378 [19:58] <Zanarkand69> i down loaded the public sever i get java is not reconized as an internal or external command operable program or batch file when i run the start sever
#2379 [19:59] <xales> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml
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#2381 [20:00] <Zanarkand69> theres no windows 7 set up theer
#2382 [20:01] <xales> Windows 7 = Windows Vista
#2383 [20:01] <Zanarkand69> ok will give it a shot
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#2385 [20:08] * oldtopmanserver has question, dodges the ?? ask voxelhead thingy
#2385 [20:08] <VoxelHead> praise be to you
#2386 [20:09] <oldtopmanserver> :D
#2387 [20:09] <VoxelHead> ;)
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#2390 [20:09] <oldtopmanserver> Does anyone here have a kick glitch? (vanilla, no flymod)
#2391 [20:09] <oldtopmanserver> Other than the fence ofc
#2392 [20:10] <oldtopmanserver> I have this guy and ever couple of mins, BAM! both his client and my server say he floated too long,
#2393 [20:10] <oldtopmanserver> He has a completely vanilla client.
#2394 [20:11] <oldtopmanserver> He is also nowhere near a fence.
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#2396 [20:13] <oldtopmanserver> Anyone here?
#2397 [20:13] <beaker> is the registration page down?
#2398 [20:13] <oldtopmanserver> beaker: does it work for you?
#2399 [20:14] <beaker> nope
#2400 [20:14] <beaker> captcha error
#2401 [20:14] <oldtopmanserver> beaker: Its down appearently.
#2402 [20:14] <xales> What browser?
#2403 [20:14] <beaker> but the capcha is not loading onto the page
#2404 [20:14] <beaker> firefox
#2405 [20:14] <beaker> 4
#2406 [20:14] <xales> Oh, then it's down, nevermind
#2407 [20:14] <beaker> alright then, check back later tks
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#2410 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> oldtopmanserver: I have not seen any similar issues
#2411 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> closest is the occasional $PLAYER has moved wrongly! message
#2412 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> how is the latency between this player and your server?
#2413 [20:21] <oldtopmanserver> DopeGhoti: Pretty good. I can ping if you want.
#2414 [20:21] <oldtopmanserver> Didn't happen until 1.5
#2415 [20:22] <oldtopmanserver> And I suspect a corrupt player.dat, but he has over 9000 dogs and loves em all
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#2417 [20:26] * oldtopmanserver makes note that xales is now hiding
#2417 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> nine.. _thousand_?
#2418 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> *boggle*
#2419 [20:27] <oldtopmanserver> Dopehoti: He doesn't want to give 'em up, but if thats our only option, I'll just say they glitched :P
#2420 [20:30] <oldtopmanserver> DopeGhoti: Never heard of it before?
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#2422 [20:35] <Sintel> I have a canary server, is it possible to put mods from minecraftforum.net onto it? or is it limited to the plugins on canarymod.net?
#2423 [20:35] <oldtopmanserver> ??> Sintel mods
#2424 [20:35] <VoxelHead> Sintel: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2425 [20:35] <VoxelHead> Sintel: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#2427 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> oldtopmanserver: sorry, you could try renaming the player .datfile and if it doesn't fix it, you can at least give him the pets back by restoring it.
#2428 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> that's about the only idea I have.
#2429 [20:38] <oldtopmanserver> Thanks.
#2430 [20:38] * oldtopmanserver has to tell him
#2430 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> g'luck
#2431 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: Gluck, g'luck
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#2435 [20:50] <Patrickz0r> hey guys.. can anyone assist me with creating an account @ minecraft.net?
#2436 [20:51] <Patrickz0r> @ the registration form there is this "Fill this out to prove you're human:" but there's no code or anything in front of it!!!
#2437 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> Patrickz0r: there seems to be a problem with that part of the site right now. AFAIK, Mojang is workin on getting it fixed presently.
#2438 [20:52] <Patrickz0r> horray! thanks for the response! I'll try again later on! :)
#2439 [20:54] <bluejello> hmm, perhaps if you fill in nothing it proves you are a human, and only bots can see it :P
#2440 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> good luck!
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#2444 [20:55] <ThaBoss000> hey all i has another question
#2445 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Ask away.
#2446 [20:56] <Patrickz0r> hahaha I tryed doing nothing... but it says the confirmation code is incorrect... so... :P
#2447 [20:56] <VoxelHead> with my mighty fists of horror, and unstoppable cruelty, i am the tool of destruction, vengeance and fury
#2448 [20:56] <ThaBoss000> the minecraft website is missing the captcha in the registration so my friend cant make an account
#2449 [20:56] <oldtopmanserver> Its down ATM
#2450 [20:57] <ThaBoss000> D: damn
#2451 [20:57] <oldtopmanserver> Has anyone use the MC TCPbuffer?
#2452 [20:58] <bluejello> hmm, wonder if I can make a new account with noscript on..
#2453 [20:58] <oldtopmanserver> Anyone here know how to execute a .java file?
#2454 [20:58] <ThaBoss000> in win or linux?
#2455 [20:58] <oldtopmanserver> linux
#2456 [20:59] <ThaBoss000> ask my best friend
#2457 [20:59] <wheybags> oldtopmanserver: you cannot execute a .java file
#2458 [20:59] <ThaBoss000> his name is google
#2459 [20:59] <bluejello> probably in the consle.
#2460 [20:59] <oldtopmanserver> How do I compile it.
#2461 [20:59] <wheybags> .java is ucompiled java
#2462 [20:59] <ThaBoss000> when compiled becomes a jar
#2463 [20:59] <bluejello> TO GOOGLE
#2464 [20:59] <VoxelHead> :O
#2465 [20:59] <bluejello> *trip*
#2466 [20:59] <wheybags> ThaBoss000: no, it becomes a.class file
#2467 [20:59] <bluejello> voxelhead is suprised
#2468 [20:59] <ThaBoss000> damn you
#2469 [20:59] * oldtopmanserver kicks bluejello while hes down
#2469 [20:59] <wheybags> and is then often packaged into a .jar
#2470 [20:59] <ThaBoss000> and i thought i knew something
#2471 [20:59] <ThaBoss000> xD
#2472 [21:00] <wheybags> :D
#2473 [21:00] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#2474 [21:00] <bluejello> yea, the capita on the register page is not showing up for me.
#2475 [21:00] <ThaBoss000> but i found out how to hax our public library comps running ubuntu
#2476 [21:00] <wheybags> javac <name of .java file>
#2477 [21:00] <ThaBoss000> and play minecraft on there
#2478 [21:00] <oldtopmanserver> grrr
#2479 [21:00] <VoxelHead> Eh?
#2480 [21:00] <wheybags> to compile
#2481 [21:00] <bluejello> no wait, it works
#2482 [21:00] <oldtopmanserver> slackware =/= javac
#2483 [21:00] <wheybags> and the java <.java file name with no exteension>
#2484 [21:00] <bluejello> if I have the firefox noscript addon turned on.
#2485 [21:01] <bluejello> but I needed to add a expetion to see the capita.
#2486 [21:01] <wheybags> oldtopmanserver: what .java are you tring to run, anyways?
#2487 [21:01] <VoxelHead> a processor
#2488 [21:01] <ThaBoss000> bluejello i dont see it at all
#2489 [21:01] <oldtopmanserver> wheybags: The TCPbuffer
#2490 [21:01] <oldtopmanserver> long story
#2491 [21:01] <ThaBoss000> and its captcha not capita
#2492 [21:01] <Patrickz0r> weird...
#2493 [21:01] <oldtopmanserver> AFK:Dinner
#2494 [21:02] <ThaBoss000> lol oldtopman AFK :D inner
#2495 [21:02] <bluejello> it probably is the incorrect... what do you call it again?
#2496 [21:02] <bluejello> er, right. certificit
#2497 [21:02] <bluejello> or something.
#2498 [21:02] <ThaBoss000> certificate
#2499 [21:02] <wheybags> oldtopmanserver: working?
#2500 [21:02] <VoxelHead> Not particularly, no.
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#2502 [21:02] <ThaBoss000> jello doesnt know how to speel
#2503 [21:02] <ThaBoss000> xD
#2504 [21:03] <bluejello> neo I do not now ow
#2505 [21:03] <bluejello> *cough*\
#2506 [21:03] <ThaBoss000> i has a new line
#2507 [21:03] <ThaBoss000> "you just mad cause you got camel toe"
#2508 [21:03] <bluejello> I can set up a account for someone if they want
#2509 [21:04] <ThaBoss000> set up on?
#2510 [21:04] <bluejello> minecraft
#2511 [21:04] <ThaBoss000> how?
#2512 [21:04] <bluejello> but not buy it
#2513 [21:04] <bluejello> I can see the capita
#2514 [21:04] <ThaBoss000> D: how
#2515 [21:04] <bluejello> try disableing javascript and visiting the website
#2516 [21:04] <bluejello> that may help
#2517 [21:04] <bluejello> or work*
#2518 [21:05] <bluejello> I use noscript addon for firefox, but when I Can see the capitas it tells me to enable javascript to make this process easyer
#2519 [21:05] <ThaBoss000> how do you disable java exactly?
#2520 [21:05] <ThaBoss000> in firefox
#2521 [21:05] <bluejello> let me see.
#2522 [21:05] <ThaBoss000> magic skillz and luck?
#2523 [21:05] <bluejello> and it is javascirpt, not java. slightly different
#2524 [21:06] <bluejello> I have it
#2525 [21:06] <ThaBoss000> O_O my internet explorer is fucked up
#2526 [21:06] <ThaBoss000> i see a black bar instead of the url bar
#2527 [21:06] <bluejello> um
#2528 [21:06] <ThaBoss000> but i can still type
#2529 [21:06] <bluejello> tools-options-content I think
#2530 [21:06] <bluejello> and deselect enable javascirpt
#2531 [21:07] <bluejello> and apparently my computer has the same IP as another device on this network I am on.
#2532 [21:07] <ThaBoss000> internet explorer makes it easier
#2533 [21:07] <ThaBoss000> xD
#2534 [21:07] <bluejello> how so?
#2535 [21:07] <ThaBoss000> it asks if you wanna enabled the blocked certificate
#2536 [21:07] <ThaBoss000> i said yes and captcha showed up
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#2538 [21:08] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =[
#2539 [21:08] <bluejello> I saw that when I enabled noscript
#2540 [21:08] <bluejello> I like firefox better, much faster tab openage
#2541 [21:09] <ThaBoss000> yup i like firefox cause of about:config
#2542 [21:09] <ThaBoss000> if chrome had custom config i would like chrome better
#2543 [21:10] <bluejello> bla bla random words that I do not want to try to understand right now
#2544 [21:10] <ThaBoss000> custom configuration
#2545 [21:10] <ThaBoss000> you can mess with firefox internal settings
#2546 [21:10] <bluejello> I have not gone into it.
#2547 [21:11] <bluejello> dont really feel a need to
#2548 [21:11] <bluejello> and probably will mess things up a lot of I change settings around in there :P
#2549 [21:11] <ThaBoss000> you can make firefox run much faster if you increase the httppipelining max requests
#2550 [21:12] <bluejello> now to download several mods, install them and then transfer them to another computer.
#2551 [21:12] <bluejello> and find a sever for my sister.
#2552 [21:12] <ThaBoss000> sever? O_O what are you severing again?
#2553 [21:12] <VoxelHead> cold
#2554 [21:12] <bluejello> server*
#2555 [21:13] <ThaBoss000> xD
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#2557 [21:13] <ThaBoss000> *ALL HAIL NOTCH*
#2558 [21:13] <bluejello> and how do you sever cold?
#2559 [21:13] <ThaBoss000> magic jello magic
#2560 [21:13] <bluejello> well, any mod recommendations for a computer with integrated graphics?
#2561 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> optimine
#2562 [21:14] <bluejello> that work with 1.5
#2563 [21:14] <bluejello> optifog I am putting in right now.
#2564 [21:14] <cant> Hey gents, trying to purchace the game, but got a transaction error (using credit card). anyone know the solution?
#2565 [21:14] <ThaBoss000> smash it and throw it out and buy a new one with a graphics card
#2566 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=264418&f=1032
#2567 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Optimine for 1.5
#2568 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Cant, use paypal
#2569 [21:14] <ThaBoss000> ^ whats optimine?
#2570 [21:15] <bluejello> optimine suppposibly increaces fps
#2571 [21:15] <bluejello> bad spelling^
#2572 [21:15] <ThaBoss000> i have to try that
#2573 [21:15] <bluejello> optifog works better apparently
#2574 [21:15] <ThaBoss000> im using a laptop with intergraphs
#2575 [21:15] <cant> I'm trying to avoid paypal at all cost. Not a fan of how they do business. any other options or am I suck with pp?
#2576 [21:15] <bluejello> Stuck with pp I think
#2577 [21:15] <ThaBoss000> lol my desktop has intergraphics but its 2gb intergrated so its fast enough
#2578 [21:16] <ThaBoss000> cant whats wrong with paypal?
#2579 [21:16] <ThaBoss000> i always use paypal
#2580 [21:16] <VoxelHead> mmm sammaelt
#2581 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> You can either use paypal right now, or wait for Mojang to bring along more payment options in the future
#2582 [21:16] <ThaBoss000> so whats better optimine or optifog?
#2583 [21:16] <cant> Not a fan of how they handled wikileaks stuff. deleted my account when I found out, and i've been able to avoid them until now.
#2584 [21:17] <bluejello> this netbook has a atom processor 1.6 ghz, 128 intergrated video ram, intergrated graphics, and 1 gig ram.
#2585 [21:17] <ThaBoss000> ^ i have to call a fail ^
#2586 [21:17] <bluejello> yes, this is the failcomputer.
#2587 [21:17] <gPad2002> Failputer :P
#2588 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> I smell a netsplit coming
#2589 [21:17] <bluejello> but it is nicer when you find out you can get a program that allows for multible desktops in windows, like the linux ones.
#2590 [21:18] <bluejello> er, linux*
#2591 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Definitely, netsplit coming..
#2592 [21:18] <bluejello> fullscreen firefox in one, and various other programs open in others.
#2593 [21:18] <bluejello> netsplit?
#2594 [21:18] <ThaBoss000> i have an intel celeron 2.2ghz proc 2gbs ram and 758 intergrated graphics
#2595 [21:19] <gPad2002> GreyVulpine: How can you tell?
#2596 [21:19] <VoxelHead> purple dildos
#2597 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> netsplit-senses tingling.
#2598 [21:19] <gPad2002> vox, shut up
#2599 [21:19] <VoxelHead> Nnk.
#2600 [21:19] <ThaBoss000> lololol
#2601 [21:19] <ThaBoss000> gpad u mad?
#2602 [21:20] <bluejello> I also have access to two different computers, both I7, but one has a graphic card and one has none, the one with intergrated has 64 bit win 7 while the one with the graphics card has a 32 bit verson...
#2603 [21:20] <bluejello> I like the one with a graphics card much better.
#2604 [21:20] <ThaBoss000> yea graphics card much better than intergrated graphics
#2605 [21:20] <ThaBoss000> even if graphics card smaller in size
#2606 [21:20] <gPad2002> Clearly, ThaBoss000 enjoys his dildo
#2607 [21:20] <ThaBoss000> gpad u just mad cause you got camel toe
#2608 [21:21] * gPad2002 checks his toes
#2608 [21:21] <gPad2002> Camel? Where?
#2609 [21:21] <ThaBoss000> gpad=noob
#2610 [21:21] <gPad2002> :P
#2611 [21:21] <gPad2002> Lulz
#2612 [21:21] <ThaBoss000> do you even know what camel toe is?
#2613 [21:21] <gPad2002> Derp.
#2614 [21:21] <bluejello> and my father hooked it up to a projector for waching recorded TV from, yes, recorded TV on a computer.
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#2616 [21:22] <bluejello> we recently got satalite TV with PVR though.
#2617 [21:22] <ThaBoss000> well if ur like my bro with a 32" screen then its worth it
#2618 [21:22] <ThaBoss000> my bro has a 32" comp screem
#2619 [21:22] <ThaBoss000> *screen
#2620 [21:22] <bluejello> we also have our wii hooked up to the projector.
#2621 [21:22] <ThaBoss000> so whats better optimine or optifog?
#2622 [21:22] <gPad2002> ThaBoss000: Use both
#2623 [21:23] <bluejello> optifog I think, if you play on short or tiny render distance.
#2624 [21:23] <bluejello> can not in 1.5 yet I think.
#2625 [21:23] <ThaBoss000> so optimine then
#2626 [21:23] <ThaBoss000> and optifog when comes out for 1.5
#2627 [21:23] <bluejello> well, when they get...
#2628 [21:23] <bluejello> um, connected
#2629 [21:23] <bluejello> merged*
#2630 [21:27] <bluejello> anyone have a server recommendation? survival, preferably non-white listed.
#2631 [21:27] <ThaBoss000> Citycraft 24/7
#2632 [21:28] <ThaBoss000> they have a 2 survival servers pvp and non pvp
#2633 [21:28] <ThaBoss000> plus im on there :D
#2634 [21:28] <ThaBoss000> which makes it so much more better
#2635 [21:28] <bluejello> well, this is for my sister, how built is it?
#2636 [21:28] <ThaBoss000> 95% and updating with each version
#2637 [21:29] <bluejello> er, is there still wilderness to build it?
#2638 [21:29] <ThaBoss000> she will be treated like a queen xD cause there is only like 3 girls on there
#2639 [21:29] <bluejello> we both use the same account though, but I have a server I play on.
#2640 [21:29] <ThaBoss000> there is wilderness and plus there is lots if you just want to settle in suburbs
#2641 [21:30] <bluejello> ok, it should be good then, let me get these mods installed and then I will get the IP to her.
#2642 [21:30] <ThaBoss000> fack optimine dont work
#2643 [21:30] <ThaBoss000> mebe i should get the mod loader xD
#2644 [21:30] <bluejello> did you delete the meta file?
#2645 [21:31] <ThaBoss000> yup
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#2647 [21:31] <MLoeven> does anyone know if there is a irc channel for mcedit ?
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#2649 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe there is
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#2651 [21:32] <ThaBoss000> fack still dont work
#2652 [21:32] <ThaBoss000> screw mods
#2653 [21:32] <ThaBoss000> ill wait till humas+ gets working
#2654 [21:32] <bluejello> what is the problem? and what mods installed?
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#2656 [21:33] <ThaBoss000> modloader and optimine
#2657 [21:33] <ThaBoss000> but wtf optimine and modloader both have same classes
#2658 [21:33] <bluejello> hmm...
#2659 [21:33] <ThaBoss000> D: they cancel each other out
#2660 [21:34] <ThaBoss000> and i get my black screen xD
#2661 [21:34] <mr_pants> Can anybody here help me? I'm trying to sign up to Minecraft, but they Captcha code thingie isn't showing up.
#2662 [21:34] <gPad2002> We know
#2663 [21:34] <bluejello> what browser?
#2664 [21:34] <gPad2002> Give it a day or so
#2665 [21:34] <bluejello> try disabling javascript
#2666 [21:34] <bluejello> or I can set up a account for you
#2667 [21:34] <ThaBoss000> or use internet explorer
#2668 [21:34] <gPad2002> bluejello: It's not just him
#2669 [21:34] <mr_pants> Firefox
#2670 [21:34] <gPad2002> Lots of people are having problems
#2671 [21:34] <bluejello> try internet,
#2672 [21:35] <ThaBoss000> use internet explorer pants
#2673 [21:35] <ThaBoss000> it works
#2674 [21:35] <bluejello> it is a incorrect certificit
#2675 [21:35] <mr_pants> Ok
#2676 [21:35] <gPad2002> Use IE? Rofl
#2677 [21:35] <ThaBoss000> yup
#2678 [21:35] <bluejello> yes, it works, also disabling javascript may work.
#2679 [21:35] * gPad2002 facedesks
#2679 [21:35] <ThaBoss000> is he dead?
#2680 [21:35] <bluejello> I know noscript enabled works.
#2681 [21:35] <ThaBoss000> is gpad dead?
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#2683 [21:36] <bluejello> can you message me the IP of the server? the citycraft one
#2684 [21:36] <ThaBoss000> uum lemme see
#2685 [21:36] <Plum> Can anyone help me so my screen doesn't look like this: http://i52.tinypic.com/121r6go.jpg
#2686 [21:36] <Plum> When press F3 that is lol
#2687 [21:36] * gPad2002 slaps ThaBoss000 around a bit with a pink Macintosh
#2687 [21:37] <knyrf> Plum: That's what happens when you press F3?
#2688 [21:37] <Plum> Yeah D:
#2689 [21:37] <gPad2002> Protip: Don't press F3
#2690 [21:37] <Plum> I wouldn't be pressing F3 if I didn't have a reason too. Protip.
#2691 [21:37] <knyrf> (although the reason it looks like that is because your framerate sucks, which means you need to turn down the graphics or get a better computer)
#2692 [21:38] <knyrf> anyway, gPad2002 can help with that :P
#2693 [21:38] * knyrf goes back to afk
#2693 [21:38] <gPad2002> Just hit F3 again?
#2694 [21:39] <bluejello> let me guess, intergrated graphics?
#2695 [21:39] <Plum> Nope
#2696 [21:39] <bluejello> think there is a mod to disable that graph, may have only worked with 1.4
#2697 [21:40] <ThaBoss000> hey jello they are redoing one of the servers so only the survival pvp is up right now
#2698 [21:40] <Plum> Separate graphics card, motherboard that's only bout a year old. The computer isn't shitty lol
#2699 [21:40] <bluejello> how much of a PVP server is it?
#2700 [21:41] <bluejello> 9 fps, could be slow harddrive.
#2701 [21:41] <ThaBoss000> damnit accept chat
#2702 [21:41] <ThaBoss000> Waiting for acknowledgement...
#2703 [21:41] <bluejello> is it the first one or second one?
#2704 [21:41] <ThaBoss000> ?
#2705 [21:41] <bluejello> I assume 184.numbersgohere
#2706 [21:42] <bluejello> I see the message in red.
#2707 [21:42] <ThaBoss000> ldn8.multiplay.co.uk:30265
#2708 [21:42] <ThaBoss000> tats the pvp
#2709 [21:42] <ThaBoss000> and the other one is
#2710 [21:42] <ThaBoss000> ldn25.multiplay.co.uk
#2711 [21:42] <ThaBoss000> ldn25.multiplay.co.uk:1337
#2712 [21:42] <ThaBoss000> but its down for maint
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#2714 [21:43] * ThaBoss000 kills self
#2714 [21:43] * ThaBoss000 rises from dead stronger
#2714 [21:44] * ThaBoss000 is talking in pink
#2714 [21:44] <ThaBoss000> xD
#2715 [21:45] <gPad2002> Colours are stripped
#2716 [21:46] <gPad2002> Thankfully
#2717 [21:48] <bluejello> uplaoding a 1 mb file is long on this internet connection I have...
#2718 [21:48] <bluejello> on dropbox
#2719 [21:48] <bluejello> anyway to check the status on it?
#2720 [21:48] <bluejello> as in, how much as been uploaded.
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#2723 [21:58] <bluejello> she is on now.
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#2727 [22:04] <Orbitoid> Hello all
#2728 [22:04] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2729 [22:05] <bluejello> GASP
#2730 [22:05] * bluejello pokes voxelhead
#2730 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Erp!
#2731 [22:05] <bluejello> hello
#2732 [22:05] <bluejello> voxelhead, say hello
#2733 [22:05] <bluejello> that did not work.
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#2735 [22:10] <superfahd> hi guys
#2736 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2737 [22:10] <superfahd> could someone please help me out with something?
#2738 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#2739 [22:10] <TheNytangel> dont ask, just ask
#2740 [22:11] <superfahd> i havent played minecraft since the 1.4 update
#2741 [22:11] <ThaBoss000> gots to go bye
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#2743 [22:11] <superfahd> now when i try to log on i keep getting couldnt connect message
#2744 [22:11] <superfahd> is the server down?
#2745 [22:11] <TheNytangel> did you update MC?
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#2747 [22:11] <superfahd> wont do that either
#2748 [22:11] <bluejello> try deleting the minecraft folder, just the bin
#2749 [22:11] <bluejello> bin folder.
#2750 [22:11] <TheNytangel> redownload it, smart one >.>
#2751 [22:11] <superfahd> did that
#2752 [22:12] <superfahd> after that also deleted the .minecraft folder
#2753 [22:12] <superfahd> force update just gets stuck
#2754 [22:12] <superfahd> playing in browser gives me an exception
#2755 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> What exception?
#2756 [22:12] <superfahd> i could copy paste that here if that would help
#2757 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Please use the website, pastebin.com
#2758 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> That way, if the error's long, it won't flood the channel here
#2759 [22:13] <superfahd> its not that long
#2760 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> What's the error?
#2761 [22:13] <superfahd> load: class net.minecraft.Launcher not found. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.Launcher
#2762 [22:13] <superfahd> thats the guts of it
#2763 [22:14] <superfahd> there are other lines after but i think this is the problem
#2764 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Um, could you pastebin the entire thing?
#2765 [22:14] <superfahd> um...sorry how do i do that?
#2766 [22:14] <superfahd> sorta new
#2767 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Copy the entirety of the message, go to http://www.pastebin.com
#2768 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Paste it there, pastebin will give you a URL. Give it to us
#2769 [22:15] <superfahd> gotcha
#2770 [22:15] <superfahd> http://pastebin.com/SfctbbMc
#2771 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> That's using the browser?
#2772 [22:15] <superfahd> yes
#2773 [22:15] <superfahd> minecraft just says could not connect to minecraft.net
#2774 [22:16] <superfahd> *can;t
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#2776 [22:16] <superfahd> funny i could play it fine a week ago
#2777 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#2778 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> And you've deleted .minecraft already, have you tried reinstalling java?
#2779 [22:17] <bluejello> tried downloading a new launcher?
#2780 [22:17] <superfahd> yes
#2781 [22:17] <bluejello> or tried from the website/
#2782 [22:17] <superfahd> that too
#2783 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> bluejello - The error is from the website.
#2784 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> You're not running any sort of security software that would prevent java from accessing the 'net, right?
#2785 [22:19] <superfahd> nothing other then MS security essentials
#2786 [22:20] <superfahd> and that never bothered me before
#2787 [22:20] <bluejello> I have ms security essentials, so that can not be it.
#2788 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you double check your date and time? Make sure they're right
#2789 [22:21] <superfahd> you mean the windows clock?
#2790 [22:21] * GreyVulpine nods
#2790 [22:21] <superfahd> its ok
#2791 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Including the date?
#2792 [22:22] <superfahd> yup
#2793 [22:22] <superfahd> unless ive been caught in some sort of temporal rift
#2794 [22:22] <bluejello> potentially the bios could be wrong, but that owuld not be likely.
#2795 [22:22] <bluejello> year as well?
#2796 [22:22] <superfahd> its 2011 right?
#2797 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> If the system clock is wrong, the client can't authenticate the SSL
#2798 [22:22] <superfahd> :)
#2799 [22:22] <VoxelHead> =D
#2800 [22:23] <bluejello> no, 2012 now
#2801 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> which could give the cannot connect error
#2802 [22:23] <superfahd> holy cow!
#2803 [22:23] <bluejello> I skipped 2010
#2804 [22:23] <bluejello> yea, that works
#2805 [22:23] <bluejello> *cough*
#2806 [22:24] <superfahd> wouldnt that mess with other stuff as well?
#2807 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Not necessarily.
#2808 [22:24] <superfahd> i dont remember ever changing anything so i doubt thats the problem
#2809 [22:24] <bluejello> windows update would be messed up right?
#2810 [22:24] <superfahd> i guess
#2811 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you pull up your command prompt, ( start -> "cmd" )
#2812 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> And try a "ping minecraft.net
#2813 [22:25] <superfahd> ok
#2814 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Tell us what ip address it resolves to
#2815 [22:25] <bluejello> or windowkey+R works
#2816 [22:25] <superfahd> 50.16.203.217
#2817 [22:25] <bluejello> then type cmd
#2818 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> That looks right, hmm.
#2819 [22:25] <bluejello> and all the packets reached correct?
#2820 [22:25] <superfahd> yup
#2821 [22:26] <superfahd> btw im a CS major so i have a fair understanding
#2822 [22:26] <superfahd> :P
#2823 [22:26] <superfahd> or at least i supposed
#2824 [22:26] <superfahd> yesterday i just thought the server was down
#2825 [22:26] <bluejello> that would be the logical conclusion
#2826 [22:27] <superfahd> but then people kept going on on the forums as if nothing happened
#2827 [22:27] <bluejello> possibly something wrong with your ISP then?
#2828 [22:27] <superfahd> and i couldnt connect today either
#2829 [22:27] <bluejello> can you connect with a different computer?
#2830 [22:27] <superfahd> em...this is my only one!
#2831 [22:27] <superfahd> hold on though
#2832 [22:27] <bluejello> ok, scrap that thought.
#2833 [22:27] <superfahd> let me see if i can wrench one from my roomie
#2834 [22:29] <superfahd> wow hey
#2835 [22:29] <superfahd> it worked on his laptop
#2836 [22:29] <bluejello> it works?
#2837 [22:30] <bluejello> wonder what the difference is.
#2838 [22:30] <bluejello> but that discounds the ISP from being the trouble
#2839 [22:30] <superfahd> yeah
#2840 [22:30] <superfahd> java maybe?
#2841 [22:30] <VoxelHead> over there
#2842 [22:30] <bluejello> possibly,
#2843 [22:30] <bluejello> have you tried a uninstall-reinstall?
#2844 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Cabbages.
#2845 [22:30] <bluejello> go away voxel
#2846 [22:31] <VoxelHead> fine
#2847 [22:31] <superfahd> can you uninstall minecraft?
#2848 [22:31] <superfahd> i though you only deleted the exe and the .minecraft folder
#2849 [22:31] <superfahd> and i did that
#2850 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Would only need to delete .minecraft and the launcher
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#2852 [22:31] <bluejello> I mean java.
#2853 [22:32] <superfahd> oh that
#2854 [22:32] <bluejello> you have 1.6 update 24 right? think that is the latest offical release.
#2855 [22:32] <superfahd> yup
#2856 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> I'd look into completely uninstalling and reinstalling java again
#2857 [22:33] <bluejello> and I assume you have restarted the computer since it has stopped connecting.
#2858 [22:34] <superfahd> yes
#2859 [22:34] <superfahd> tried java force update too
#2860 [22:34] <superfahd> said i had the latest version
#2861 [22:34] <superfahd> annoying isnt it
#2862 [22:36] <bluejello> try uninstalling, restarting the computer, and then reinstalling.
#2863 [22:36] <bluejello> unless it is a windows update that caused it, but then most people wound have troubles by now...
#2864 [22:36] <superfahd> yeah there was an update just a couple of days ago
#2865 [22:36] <superfahd> but i'll give it a shot anyway
#2866 [22:36] <superfahd> see you guys in a while
#2867 [22:47] * superfahd [superfahd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2868 [22:47] <superfahd> hi guys im back
#2869 [22:48] <bluejello> did it work?
#2870 [22:48] <superfahd> yup
#2871 [22:48] <bluejello> YAY
#2872 [22:48] <superfahd> i probably messed up java before while messing with msconfig
#2873 [22:48] <bluejello> probably,
#2874 [22:49] <superfahd> it was totally confused about what version it had
#2875 [22:49] <bluejello> I do not play around with that becuase of posibility of this type of trouble.
#2876 [22:49] <superfahd> but now im happily punching squids and digging myself into sand holes again!
#2877 [22:49] <superfahd> thanks a lot!
#2878 [22:49] <superfahd> you guys rock
#2879 [22:50] <bluejello> try the map 404 and dig in the graval
#2880 [22:50] <bluejello> garvel, and that is seed
#2881 [22:50] <bluejello> er, gravel
#2882 [22:50] <superfahd> i was actually thinking about finally trying Glacier
#2883 [22:50] <superfahd> hear a lot about it
#2884 [22:50] <bluejello> try 404 first, then glacier
#2885 [22:50] <superfahd> hey anyone know a good floating islands type seed?
#2886 [22:50] <bluejello> no, they typcially occur because of gliches
#2887 [22:50] <superfahd> i have this strange urge to build chinese temples on floating islands
#2888 [22:51] <Orbitoid> I'm having issues with a new Linux Minecraft server that i just set up
#2889 [22:51] <bluejello> but glacier has a flying island from what I remember, best luck is making a flying island by yourself though
#2890 [22:51] <Orbitoid> its on a VPS running ubuntu (server)
#2891 [22:51] <oldtopmanserver> Go on.
#2892 [22:51] <Orbitoid> I installed the latest java i could
#2893 [22:51] <Orbitoid> the issue is that when i start the server it just stops
#2894 [22:51] <superfahd> anyway thanks again!
#2895 [22:52] <superfahd> gotta get building now
#2896 [22:52] <bluejello> you are welcom superfahd
#2897 [22:52] <Orbitoid> it loads fine and i can join it ok for at least 2-3mins
#2898 [22:52] <oldtopmanserver> Orbitoid: What command are you starting it with?
#2899 [22:52] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go ;(
#2900 [22:52] <bluejello> me to, voxel, me to. and I will let other help you orbitold
#2901 [22:52] <Orbitoid> i'll just get the command i used
#2902 [22:54] <Orbitoid> i still havent found it but it was something along the lines of:
#2903 [22:55] <Orbitoid> wait
#2904 [22:55] <Orbitoid> no it was this:
#2905 [22:55] <Orbitoid> java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2906 [22:55] <bluejello> that looks good.
#2907 [22:55] <Orbitoid> but with -Xms2G and -Xmx2G
#2908 [22:55] <Orbitoid> and i tried with 2048M as well
#2909 [22:55] <Orbitoid> i also tried loading it with bukkit
#2910 [22:56] <oldtopmanserver> Orbitoid: Try "java -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#2911 [22:57] <Orbitoid> ok so the server is up
#2912 [22:57] <Orbitoid> (which is what it usually does)
#2913 [22:57] <Orbitoid> no errors or anything yet
#2914 [22:57] <Orbitoid> it usually lasts for around 2-3 mins
#2915 [22:57] <Orbitoid> i checked top and it isnt using all my ram or anything like that
#2916 [23:01] <Orbitoid> ok it crashed
#2917 [23:01] <Orbitoid> it just went back to the cli and didnt give me any errors
#2918 [23:01] <Orbitoid> no one has joined
#2919 [23:01] <Orbitoid> ram usage was minimal
#2920 [23:01] <Orbitoid> cpu was 2% for most of the time
#2921 [23:01] <oldtopmanserver> mm
#2922 [23:01] <oldtopmanserver> Hmm
#2923 [23:04] <Orbitoid> http://pastebin.com/JPwvkKd3
#2924 [23:04] <Orbitoid> that is the log from running the server to checking my java version after it died
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#2926 [23:05] <dolseni> can somebody try to connect to a server for me? I don't know if somethings wrong on my end or if the server is down. the minecraft server is cheeseburgervacation.com
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#2928 [23:11] <xales> !check cheeseburgervacation.com
#2929 [23:11] <xales> dolseni: The IP it's pointing to is invalid.
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#2931 [23:11] <shooter190> I lost all my stuff and I didn't die.
#2932 [23:12] <xales> shooter190: Singleplayer or multiplayer?
#2933 [23:12] <shooter190> singleplayer.
#2934 [23:12] <xales> Are you using amy mods?
#2935 [23:12] <shooter190> No.
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#2937 [23:12] <xales> dolseni: Rather' it's not resolving to any IP at all
#2938 [23:12] <dolseni> thats odd, i was just connected to it
#2939 [23:12] <shooter190> I went to Nether and came back.
#2940 [23:12] <dolseni> and in the middle of building something and then i got DC'd
#2941 [23:12] <shooter190> Then I closed the window and when I came back, my stuff was gone.
#2942 [23:13] <xales> shooter190: I don't know what to tell you then
#2943 [23:13] <xales> dolseni:
#2944 [23:13] <xales> ;; Got answer:
#2945 [23:13] <xales> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 24880
#2946 [23:13] <shooter190> Well I closed it through the "Open inv."
#2947 [23:13] <shooter190> And not by pressing esc.
#2948 [23:13] <dolseni> the website still works... http://cheeseburgervacation.com/
#2949 [23:14] <xales> dolseni: It would be cached on your computer
#2950 [23:14] <xales> dolseni: Actually, nevermind. It seems to be working now
#2951 [23:15] <xales> shooter190: You might have closed it while it was saving...no idea
#2952 [23:15] <dolseni> MC server is just down, i guess
#2953 [23:15] <dolseni> or at the very least, it isn't a problem on my side
#2954 [23:15] * It stirs ominously
#2954 [23:15] <xales> cheeseburgervacation.com/25565: lookup failure: Name or service not known
#2955 [23:16] <xales> So yeah, not on your end
#2956 [23:16] <dolseni> i don't know if it uses 25565 as the port
#2957 [23:16] <dolseni> or if thats the default or what
#2958 [23:16] <xales> 25565 is the default
#2959 [23:17] <It> !check cheeseburgervacation.com!80
#2960 [23:17] <It> !check cheeseburgervacation.com:80
#2961 [23:17] <It> ok lol
#2962 [23:19] * xales smacks Kealper
#2962 [23:20] * It smacks Kealper with xales
#2962 [23:20] <xales> ouch
#2963 [23:21] <xales> :(
#2964 [23:21] <VoxelHead> awww
#2965 [23:21] * VoxelHead kisses it better
#2965 [23:21] <It> it hurt him more than it did you
#2966 [23:21] <xales> Thank you, VoxelHead
#2967 [23:21] <VoxelHead> my pleasure
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#2969 [23:22] <It> lolwut
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#2971 [23:22] <Twelve-60> Is there an official fix for the 'Software caused connection abort: recv failed' problem?
#2972 [23:23] <xales> When do you get it?
#2973 [23:23] <Twelve-60> I've got the server on my LAN and I'm still getting it :'(
#2974 [23:23] <xales> Firewall running?
#2975 [23:23] <Twelve-60> Just after connecting, blocks reappear etc
#2976 [23:23] <It> move away from spawn
#2977 [23:23] <Twelve-60> just got 'end of stream'
#2978 [23:23] <xales> Oh, I think I know the issue then ._.
#2979 [23:23] <xales> Do you know how to open Device Manager?
#2980 [23:24] <Twelve-60> indeed, the buffer fix?
#2981 [23:24] <Twelve-60> mine wont go above 128
#2982 [23:25] <xales> What model of NIC is it?
#2983 [23:25] <It> WIN+R -> devmgmt.msc
#2984 [23:25] <Twelve-60> Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
#2985 [23:25] <xales> Yeah...I think it's a know issue with that specific NIC
#2986 [23:25] <Twelve-60> the NIC + java?
#2987 [23:26] <xales> The NIC + Java + Windows
#2988 [23:26] <xales> Other OSes (Mac, Linux, BSD) run it fine
#2989 [23:26] <Twelve-60> I see
#2990 [23:26] <Twelve-60> drive issue then?
#2991 [23:26] <VoxelHead> Can i check?
#2992 [23:26] <Twelve-60> driver*
#2993 [23:26] <xales> I think so
#2994 [23:27] <xales> VoxelHead: You aren't helping, be quiet ._.
#2995 [23:27] <xales> stupid bots
#2996 [23:27] <Twelve-60> :o
#2997 [23:27] <VoxelHead> well i'll be a monkey's uncle
#2998 [23:27] <xales> VoxelHead: shut up
#2999 [23:27] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#2999 [23:27] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#3000 [23:28] * It sulks too
#3000 [23:31] <Orbitoid> Does anyone have any more ideas on the issue i was having before? the issue was that my server would just stop running with no error
#3001 [23:31] <xales> Orbitoid: Delete server.properties and re-run it
#3002 [23:31] <Orbitoid> kk
#3003 [23:32] <Orbitoid> done. ok so the server is up now at 13:32 (EST)
#3004 [23:34] <Orbitoid> xales: what in the server properties could have been wrong? i didnt modfy it at all
#3005 [23:34] <xales> No idea
#3006 [23:34] <Orbitoid> - it still isnt fixed, just curious
#3007 [23:34] <xales> Where are you running the server from?
#3008 [23:35] <Orbitoid> as in what directory?
#3009 [23:35] <xales> Yes
#3010 [23:35] <xales> What OS, as well?
#3011 [23:35] <Orbitoid> debain
#3012 [23:35] <Orbitoid> debian*
#3013 [23:35] <Orbitoid> /home/minecraftnomods/
#3014 [23:35] <xales> Have you done...
#3015 [23:36] <xales> ?? java/linux/debian
#3016 [23:36] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#3017 [23:36] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: To install it, `sudo apt-get sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
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#3019 [23:37] <Orbitoid> so i'm root atm (not to run minecraft just to install java)
#3020 [23:38] <xales> That's fine, just leave the sudo off then
#3021 [23:38] <Orbitoid> when i go apt-get sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java it says:
#3022 [23:38] <Orbitoid> Invalid operation sun-java6-jre
#3023 [23:38] <xales> Oh, gah, the FAQ entry is wrong
#3024 [23:38] * VoxelHead is away: watching a film
#3024 [23:38] <Orbitoid> ah no sudo there
#3025 [23:38] <xales> it's `apt-get install sun-java6-jre`
#3026 [23:38] <Orbitoid> yeah thats what i though
#3027 [23:38] <Orbitoid> thought*
#3028 [23:38] <Orbitoid> i was just copying what was written above
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#3031 [23:39] <Orbitoid> sun-java6-jre is already the newest version.
#3032 [23:39] <Orbitoid> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 54 not upgraded.
#3033 [23:39] <xales> ??~ java/linux/debian|While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package;;To install it, `sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#3034 [23:39] <xales> There we go, anyway
#3035 [23:39] <xales> Make sure you do the second part of the command
#3036 [23:39] <xales> (update-alternatives --config java)
#3037 [23:39] <Orbitoid> i did
#3038 [23:39] <Orbitoid> i'll do it again
#3039 [23:39] <G1aDOS> I assume this is the support channel? I'd like some Java/Client conflict help, if someone can spare the time please.
#3040 [23:40] <xales> G1aDOS: Indeed it is, what's the problem?
#3041 [23:40] <Twelve-60`> updated my network drivers, i'll see if it helps :P
#3042 [23:41] <G1aDOS> I launch the latest version of Minecraft (fresh install) and it gets to the home screen well enough, but as soon as I log in, and it finishes updating, the screen turns black and "javaw.exe has encountered a problem..."
#3043 [23:41] <xales> G1aDOS: What OS?
#3044 [23:41] <G1aDOS> XP SP3
#3045 [23:41] <xales> ??> G1aDOS win/reinst
#3046 [23:41] <VoxelHead> G1aDOS: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3047 [23:41] <VoxelHead> G1aDOS: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3048 [23:41] <Orbitoid> xales: ok i just did the command again and it gave me the 4 alternatives i used the default. was that the correct thing to do? it had "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java" selected
#3049 [23:42] <xales> Orbitoid: No, you should select the sun-java6 one
#3050 [23:43] <G1aDOS> No luck there, Xales.
#3051 [23:43] <xales> G1aDOS: Has it just started having this issue, or has it always had it?
#3052 [23:43] <G1aDOS> As of this evening. Was working fine at 3am CST.
#3053 [23:44] <xales> Okay, try this...
#3054 [23:44] <xales> Copy the Minecraft.exe to your desktop
#3055 [23:44] <xales> Then go to Start->Accessories->Command Prompt
#3056 [23:44] <G1aDOS> Done
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#3058 [23:44] <xales> Type 'java -Xmx1G -jar Desktop/Minecraft.exe' and hit enter
#3059 [23:45] <Orbitoid> xales: thanks i did that and i'll try to run the server again
#3060 [23:46] <G1aDOS> Same result Xales.
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#3062 [23:46] <xales> G1aDOS: Is there any error in the command prompt window?
#3063 [23:47] <G1aDOS> It launches correctly and takes me to the main screen with the login windows and updates, but it's when I login that Java crashes
#3064 [23:47] <It> oh no xales is being double teamed
#3065 [23:47] <G1aDOS> He likes it that way ;)
#3066 [23:47] <xales> ._.
#3067 [23:47] <It> if you try to force an update what happens
#3068 [23:47] <G1aDOS> j/k
#3069 [23:47] <xales> G1aDOS: So, nothing shows up in the Command prompt window?
#3070 [23:47] <xales> It: Already did that
#3071 [23:48] <It> do you have intel integrated graphics
#3072 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Thinking it's a java problem for G1aDOS
#3073 [23:48] <G1aDOS> Can I copy block text, or will I be kicked?
#3074 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> uninstall/reinstall?
#3075 [23:48] <xales> G1aDOS: You should paste it on http://pastebin.com/
#3076 [23:48] <It> i personally don't care but others may
#3077 [23:48] <G1aDOS> Alright
#3078 [23:49] <It> i'd rather just be able to read it and not have to wait 2 minutes then follow links
#3079 [23:49] <G1aDOS> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14949668/Paste.txt
#3080 [23:49] <xales> It: Ignoring the fact that the ircd will gobble up a good amount of it
#3081 [23:49] <xales> :P
#3082 [23:49] <It> and it just stops there?
#3083 [23:49] <xales> Yeah, that looks like a Java issue
#3084 [23:50] <It> i won't rule out opengl
#3085 [23:50] <G1aDOS> Sorry, it does offer me the ability to enter an additional command, as in the first has completed
#3086 [23:50] <It> since graphics are initialized when you login
#3087 [23:50] <xales> G1aDOS: Try uninstalling and re-installing Java
#3088 [23:50] <G1aDOS> I believe I have. Do you want me to try again?
#3089 [23:51] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Feed is empty!
#3090 [23:51] <It> has your computer restarted automatically for updates lately
#3091 [23:51] <It> like today or yesterday maybe
#3092 [23:51] <xales> G1aDOS: Try going to the .minecraft folder, and deleting everything except "saves"
#3093 [23:52] <G1aDOS> Can you focus your question a bit more please? Are you asking if I've installed all Windows updates, or does a specific one cause problems?
#3094 [23:52] <It> if a driver updated that could cause issues
#3095 [23:52] <It> so graphics drivers specifically
#3096 [23:52] <G1aDOS> I deleted the entire .minecraft folder. Restart?
#3097 [23:52] <It> what graphics card do you have
#3098 [23:53] <It> (that deletes your saves too)
#3099 [23:53] <xales> G1aDOS: Just re-run Minecraft
#3100 [23:53] <G1aDOS> I didn't have any. And I'm running dual Nvidia 9800 GT's SLI
#3101 [23:54] <It> ok its probably not graphics then
#3102 [23:55] <It> though you may try disabling sli
#3103 [23:55] <It> it doesnt do much for minecraft anyway
#3104 [23:57] <G1aDOS> Same result. I do a lot of other gaming, so SLI is usually preferred when I'm running something like Crysis, but that's irrelevant
#3105 [23:58] <xales> G1aDOS: You could try disabling it, just as a test to see if Minecraft works with it off
#3106 [23:58] <It> can't you enable and disable it on a per game basis?
#3107 [23:58] <G1aDOS> I did. SAme result.
#3108 [23:59] <It> ok hmm
#3109 [23:59] <It> its still not giving error messages of any kind?
#3110 [23:59] <G1aDOS> And it does't enable/disable on its own, but I can (usually) control it
#3111 [23:59] * GreyVulpine still thinks a full uninstall and reinstall of java is in order
#3111 [23:59] <xales> GreyVulpine: I think we tried that...
#3112 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Oh.
#3113 [23:59] <xales> G1aDOS: You tried completely removing all versions of Java, and reinstalling, correct?
#3114 [23:59] <It> does the web client work?