#1 [00:00] * Kealper waves _o/
#1 [00:00] <Ckm2> anyone able to answer why somtimes i get a "bad login" error trying to log into multiplayer?
#2 [00:01] <Kealper> either your login token thingy expired, or the server was in online-mode and failed to verify your username
#3 [00:01] <Kealper> i think....
#4 [00:08] <Bloodsand> hear what hes saying on that old stream?
#5 [00:09] <Bloodsand> hes going to put in animal breeding and leashes so you can lead them around
#6 [00:09] <Bloodsand> so like you can breed pink sheep
#7 [00:09] <Bloodsand> and bigger cows
#8 [00:09] <Bloodsand> for more hide etc
#9 [00:12] <sammaelt> that was almost a year ago i think
#10 [00:12] <Bloodsand> yeah before chickens and cows
#11 [00:12] <VoxelHead> I like you ;)
#12 [00:12] <Bloodsand> hes talking about adding them
#13 [00:12] <Bloodsand> :/
#14 [00:18] * Apoca [Apoca@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#15 [00:19] <Apoca> Hello
#16 [00:19] <xales> Hi
#17 [00:19] <Apoca> I want to launch my server from the jar, but when I do, it says I do not have enough RAM, and tells me to add some commands and relaunch, " To start the server with more ram, launch it as "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"" not exactly sure how to do this
#18 [00:20] <xales> How are you launching it now?
#19 [00:21] * Jmancino2 [Jmancino2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#20 [00:24] <Apoca> with the windows exe
#21 [00:25] <Apoca> I downloaded the planes mod, but have been having trouble getting it to work. I thought launchingthe server with the jar might make it work
#22 [00:26] <xales> You have to download the .jar version of the server, and create a .bat file in the same folder as the .jar with that command as the contents of it
#23 [00:27] <Apoca> just that?
#24 [00:27] <Apoca> When I run the bat, the cmd prompt opens for a second and then closes
#25 [00:28] <Apoca> I put a pause and it says "java" is not recognized as a command
#26 [00:30] <Apoca> ""E:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe"" adding this instead of just java made it work :D
#27 [00:30] <Apoca> But when I try to connect, I still get the "Logging in..." thing without actually logging in :(
#28 [00:31] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
#29 [00:31] <xales> Apoca: What username are you logging in with?
#30 [00:31] <Orbitoid> argh its still not workig :(
#31 [00:31] <Apoca> My username?
#32 [00:31] <xales> Yes
#33 [00:32] * bacon [bacon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#34 [00:32] <Apoca> The one I use to log into my minecraft account?
#35 [00:32] <xales> Yes
#36 [00:32] <Bloodsand> notch said he is definitely going to make a kitchen block eventually
#37 [00:33] <Bloodsand> and an anvil which you will need to make armor
#38 [00:42] * AuBot [AuBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#39 [00:46] * Hexamony [Hexamony@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#40 [00:47] <Hexamony> Hey Grey.
#41 [00:48] <aetherian> Hexamony!
#42 [00:48] <Hexamony> Uh, hai.
#43 [00:49] <aetherian> Hello!
#44 [00:50] <Hexamony> You seem excited.
#45 [00:51] * Jw890 [Jw890@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#46 [00:52] <Jw890> are there MC staff pressent on this irc
#47 [00:52] <bacon> No ther-
#48 [00:52] <xales> What do you need them for?
#49 [00:53] <aetherian> wouldn't it depend on the definition of present
#50 [00:54] <Hexamony> Redstone torch burnout leads to some silly, dangerous, and fickle machines..
#51 [00:54] <Jw890> i host a server (it is on a dedicated server) it currently has 14 members on it and is running fine, but when i log inw ith my user name, the log spazzes at me (sending me error messages that involved net.minecraft) lagging the server, i then exit it and the log stops and lagg then reduces, i can then log into minecraft (then the server) on my little brothers account and it is fine, so
#52 [00:54] <Jw890> im assuming that there something wrong with my account
#53 [00:55] <LordTrevor> ...why do you need staff?
#54 [00:55] <xales> Jw890: It's extremely not likely (all the server checks is "paid" or "not paid" - it's almost certainly on your end)
#55 [00:55] <LordTrevor> This entire channnel is devoted to helping you
#56 [00:55] * GreyVulpine coughsplayerprofilecoughs
#56 [00:55] <xales> However, you can email support@mojang.com if you really think that's the issue
#57 [00:55] * Hexamony gets GreyBot a losange.
#57 [00:56] <aetherian> heh
#58 [00:56] <aetherian> you mean vulpy?
#59 [00:56] <xales> And as GreyVulpine is trying to say through his coughing fit, you should delete the player profile on the server
#60 [00:56] <xales> (I don't remember where that is, but it's "(playername).dat" somewhere in the server folder)
#61 [00:56] <Hexamony> Eh, I'm a lazy name typist.. I rely badly on tab completion..
#62 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> world/players/playername.dat
#63 [00:56] <aetherian> :>
#64 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> I believe
#65 [00:57] <Jw890> aww ok grey thanks, i deleted my userdata. but that wasnt in the world file ill try looking in the world file, thanks
#66 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Be aware that it will delete your player's inventory, and reset your location back to spawn
#67 [00:58] <Hexamony> Grey, I took what you showed me last night and made some dangerous things.. now if only I weren't playing solo peaceful..
#68 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Heh, that's great.
#69 [00:59] <Jw890> grey thanks man :D
#70 [00:59] <Jw890> works now :L
#71 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Glad to hear.
#72 [01:01] <Hexamony> I built 6 dispencers, 3 facing the other 3.. triggered by a pressure plate. The dispencers have redstone torches under them.
#73 [01:02] <Hexamony> Touch the plate, one shot. Step off.. the things spaz out. And even stand near it they randomly spaz out. Heh.
#74 [01:04] <aetherian> poor GreyBot
#75 [01:04] <aetherian> ;_;
#76 [01:04] <aetherian> poor GreyVulpine ;_;
#77 [01:04] <aetherian> heh
#78 [01:04] <aetherian> he probably heard none of that, Hexamony
#79 [01:05] <Hexamony> D'oh.
#80 [01:06] <aetherian> lul
#81 [01:06] <Hexamony> Is it a weird desire to want to find a server that doesn't play SMP but just does creative projects and plays with redstone?
#82 [01:06] <aetherian> no
#83 [01:06] <aetherian> that's somewhat common
#84 [01:07] <Hexamony> I didn't think it was weird.. maybe it was how I phrased it but got some negative comments from a differnet channel once on the subject.
#85 [01:07] * lrwerewolf [lrwerewolf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#86 [01:07] <aetherian> what channel
#87 [01:07] <Hexamony> Oh, just a small little channel.
#88 [01:07] <aetherian> <3 #smp
#89 [01:07] <Hexamony> What's that channel?
#90 [01:08] <aetherian> basically the minecraft multiplayer channel, or at least it was at one point
#91 [01:08] <aetherian> it's pretty quiet nowadays
#92 [01:08] <Hexamony> Oh.
#93 [01:14] * Core [Core@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#94 [01:14] <Core> i have a creative server if anyone wants to join its mostly just been me playing so far
#95 [01:15] <Core> but meh if you want to
#96 [01:15] <Core> 5.33.83.109
#97 [01:15] <aetherian> #smp is a good place for advertisement too \o/
#98 [01:16] <aetherian> this is a help channel
#99 [01:16] <Core> mmk
#100 [01:16] <LordTrevor> Core, if I can get myself out of bed i'll check it out
#101 [01:16] <Core> haha
#102 [01:16] <LordTrevor> but essentially thats a no
#103 [01:18] <Core> hey if im running my game off hamachi, do others need to open hamachi for it to work?
#104 [01:18] <LordTrevor> ...yes
#105 [01:18] <Core> yeh i thought so
#106 [01:19] <aetherian> also
#107 [01:19] <aetherian> don't :)
#108 [01:19] <Core> lol ok
#109 [01:21] <LordTrevor> The last time I used hamachi was for a very old mmorpg I cant remember the name of because its 12:20 at night
#110 [01:21] <LordTrevor> and I intend for it to stay that way
#111 [01:21] * CelesteA [CelesteA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#112 [01:22] <LordTrevor> private sever
#113 [01:22] <Hexamony> I tried Hamachi once but the one game I wanted to use it for didn't want to work with it. >.<
#114 [01:22] <LordTrevor> ultima, thats what it was, Ultima online
#115 [01:24] <LordTrevor> You know, the battery life for first generation e-readers isnt really that good when you use it like a notebook
#116 [01:25] <Hexamony> Got a Nook Color or something else?
#117 [01:25] <LordTrevor> first generation, its a sony reader
#118 [01:26] <LordTrevor> By notebook I meant like a paper notebook, as in taking notes
#119 [01:28] <Hexamony> Oh, sorry. I like to indulge in creative reading sometimes.
#120 [01:29] * Kimax [Kimax@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#121 [01:29] <LordTrevor> PASTA!
#122 [01:29] * Patze [Patze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#123 [01:30] <LordTrevor> if anyone gets that reference they get a cookie.
#124 [01:38] <Core> so im trying port forwarding for my server, and i get the error message in my server " FAILED TO BIND TO PORT" anyone know how to help?
#125 [01:38] <Core> i used a port checker and it said 25565 was open on my computer
#126 [01:38] <LordTrevor> make sure you dont have two servers running at once
#127 [01:39] <Core> im sure i dont
#128 [01:39] <Core> but its telling me i might
#129 [01:39] <LordTrevor> or that somthing else(the port checker mayhaps) isnt using the port
#130 [01:39] <LordTrevor> or as a rule of thumb, try another port
#131 [01:40] <Core> so if i was to do that, would other people have to change their port?
#132 [01:40] * nip [nip@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#133 [01:41] <LordTrevor> instead of "youriphere" it would be "youriphere:yourporthere"
#134 [01:41] <LordTrevor> not that big of an annoyance
#135 [01:41] <Core> mmk
#136 [01:44] <LordTrevor> Would you beleive a properly calibrated screen works better?
#137 [01:44] <LordTrevor> touch screen*
#138 [01:44] <LordTrevor> My mom used it for so long and never did this....
#139 [01:45] <Core> would someone be able to test it for me? its ip 10.0.0.14
#140 [01:45] <Core> see if it works for someone else
#141 [01:46] <LordTrevor> 10.0.0.14 o_o
#142 [01:46] <Core> yeah
#143 [01:46] <Core> i dodnt change the port
#144 [01:46] <Core> but my server didnt get the error
#145 [01:46] <Core> so i think it might work
#146 [01:46] <LordTrevor> if that works im going to hate you for having the coolest ip
#147 [01:47] <Core> yeah :D
#148 [01:48] <Core> working?
#149 [01:50] <LordTrevor> Give me a minute
#150 [01:50] <LordTrevor> my computer sucks so bad
#151 [01:50] <LordTrevor> I havent played since 1.3 >_>
#152 [01:51] <LordTrevor> thats when I got my smartphone and I decided using my computer wasnt worth it
#153 [01:51] <Core> haha
#154 [01:51] <Core> so u still lurk minecraft help even tho u hve played for months?
#155 [01:52] <LordTrevor> nope
#156 [01:52] <Core> doesnt work?
#157 [01:52] <Core> works off my bros comp
#158 [01:52] <LordTrevor> im thinking its some weird internal ip
#159 [01:52] <Core> hope not
#160 [01:52] <LordTrevor> go to google and find out your external ip
#161 [01:52] <LordTrevor> just google whats my ip
#162 [01:53] <Core> so is that the one i should be using?
#163 [01:53] <LordTrevor> just give it to me
#164 [01:53] <LordTrevor> let me try
#165 [01:54] <Core> 123.211.10.217
#166 [01:54] <LordTrevor> nope.
#167 [01:54] <LordTrevor> whats your os?
#168 [01:55] <Core> windows 7
#169 [01:55] <aetherian> hehe
#170 [01:55] <LordTrevor> add an exception to the firewall
#171 [01:56] <m0nk> LordTrevor: you have 14 computers in your house?
#172 [01:56] <LordTrevor> Let me count them
#173 [01:57] * Core2 [Core2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#174 [01:57] <LordTrevor> there are nine in my line of sight right now
#175 [01:57] <Core2> derp closed it
#176 [01:57] <m0nk> 9 makes a triangle
#177 [01:57] <Core2> ok so it didnt work :(
#178 [01:58] <LordTrevor> wait 10
#179 [01:58] <LordTrevor> I missed one of the smaller ones
#180 [01:58] <LordTrevor> Why do you say this btw?
#181 [01:58] <m0nk> awake + all + night + playing wow = profit?
#182 [01:59] <LordTrevor> three more in my room and one(veeerrrryyy old) in the garage = 14 where the fuck did you get that number
#183 [01:59] <m0nk> 10.0.0.14
#184 [01:59] <m0nk> hehe
#185 [01:59] <LordTrevor> thats not mine....
#186 [01:59] <m0nk> oh
#187 [01:59] <Kealper> that's an internal address
#188 [01:59] <LordTrevor> And most of those arent hooked up
#189 [02:00] <Kealper> if that was an ip, that is
#190 [02:00] * Kealper goes back to being afk
#190 [02:00] <LordTrevor> only about eight are hooked up and running
#191 [02:00] <m0nk> i have 10.0.0.x on mine too but 14 dayum
#192 [02:00] <aetherian> Kealper: s'long
#193 [02:00] <aetherian> don't get lost
#194 [02:00] <aetherian> remember to brush your teeth
#195 [02:00] <m0nk> i just did
#196 [02:00] <m0nk> :)
#197 [02:00] <Kealper> i have a rope tied to irc, i can find my way back any time :o
#198 [02:00] <aetherian> :D
#199 [02:01] <aetherian> s/rope/pipe
#200 [02:01] <m0nk> bong
#201 [02:01] <aetherian> addicted to irc
#202 [02:01] <aetherian> D:
#203 [02:01] <aetherian> *:D
#204 [02:01] <LordTrevor> Just saw an old laptop, that makes fifteen
#205 [02:01] <m0nk> are you in the same house as Core?
#206 [02:02] <LordTrevor> no
#207 [02:02] <Kealper> wait, counting computers, are you?
#208 [02:02] <LordTrevor> yeah, you made me wonder
#209 [02:02] <m0nk> then why do you have ip 10.0.0.14 on your computer if you dont have 14 computers there?
#210 [02:02] <LordTrevor> found one in my closet
#211 [02:02] <LordTrevor> sixteen
#212 [02:03] <Kealper> my main computer has an internal ip of 192.168.1.145...but i don't have 45 computers (it starts at 100)
#213 [02:03] <Kealper> it just depends on how your router handed out the ips
#214 [02:03] <m0nk> as long as i see it i have 4 internal ip's
#215 [02:03] <LordTrevor> where do we get all these damned computers
#216 [02:03] * Kealper looks around
#216 [02:03] <m0nk> at the computer graveyard
#217 [02:04] * Kealper can only find 5 computers
#217 [02:04] <LordTrevor> I dont recall ever using half of these
#218 [02:04] * aetherian looks around
#218 [02:04] <aetherian> oh right
#219 [02:04] <aetherian> one computer, this one.
#220 [02:04] <aetherian> :|
#221 [02:04] <LordTrevor> found a box of computer parts and some cases
#222 [02:05] <LordTrevor> im done counting
#223 [02:05] <m0nk> how do you stack up ip numbers for the higher ones when you only have 2 computers in your home?
#224 [02:05] <LordTrevor> btw irc on my phone
#225 [02:05] <LordTrevor> im walking around
#226 [02:05] * NotiCon pokes aetherian
#226 [02:05] <NotiCon> iPoke
#227 [02:05] * aetherian stabs NotiCon
#227 [02:05] <NotiCon> uStab
#228 [02:05] <NotiCon> :(
#229 [02:06] <Kealper> as i said, it just depends on how your router hands out IPs
#230 [02:06] * Dark_Fox__ [Dark_Fox__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#231 [02:06] <m0nk> it's how your computers recieves them btw
#232 [02:06] <NotiCon> Kealper: you ever had a problem finding your computers that you could ping?
#233 [02:06] <Kealper> and your computers were probably requesting new IPs before the DHCP lease time (usually 24 hours) expired on the other addresses
#234 [02:07] <Kealper> uhh....like...seeing an address an wondering "wtf...where is that machine at?"
#235 [02:07] <NotiCon> nono
#236 [02:07] <NotiCon> like this one http://bash.org/?5273
#237 [02:07] <Kealper> yeah, that's what i meant lol
#238 [02:08] <Kealper> and lol at the quote
#239 [02:08] <Kealper> but no, i haven't...all my computers are fairly out in the open
#240 [02:08] <m0nk> how'd you know where it was? bash.org has like *counts* unnomrmous large sums of irc shit on it
#241 [02:09] <NotiCon> m0nk: top 100 its 3rd
#242 [02:09] <NotiCon> it used to be 1st but some other 2 took those first two places :(
#243 [02:11] <m0nk> so there i was in this hallway right
#244 [02:12] * m0nk is too tired
#244 [02:12] <m0nk> scooter
#245 [02:12] <m0nk> forever
#246 [02:13] * Kealper goes back to working on rate-limiting a program that sends data over udp
#246 [02:13] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#247 [02:14] <Kealper> turns out...udp can very easily explode a router due to it not having any protocol-level rate limiting
#248 [02:14] <m0nk> unidentified dying project
#249 [02:16] <NotiCon> Kealper: thats cause there is no checking of if the receiver got the data?
#250 [02:16] <Kealper> that's part of it
#251 [02:16] <Kealper> but tcp actually has flood control stuff built right into the protocol to ensure it doesn't saturate the network
#252 [02:17] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#253 [02:17] <Kealper> udp doesn't have that, so if you just start firing off packets and the router can't keep up....router locks up :/
#254 [02:17] <aetherian> "* Kealper goes back to being afk" it was all a lie :O
#255 [02:17] <Kealper> and m0nk: User Datagram Protocol
#256 [02:18] <m0nk> if you smoked datagram's it ould look like burn-e when that ship in that pixar short travels in light speed back to earth and the robot see's the rave lights
#257 [02:18] <NotiCon> aetherian: lets spam Kealper's router with lots of udp stuff
#258 [02:19] <aetherian> b-b-but how :O
#259 [02:20] <Kealper> unless you were on some internet with some decent upload speeds, it would only crash your router before it even touched me :P
#260 [02:20] <aetherian> well
#261 [02:20] <aetherian> it'd touch you
#262 [02:20] <aetherian> like a feather
#263 [02:21] <aetherian> but yeah man
#264 [02:21] <aetherian> I've got a five hundred and twelve upload
#265 [02:21] <aetherian> five hundred and twelve baud :D
#266 [02:22] <NotiCon> Kealper: if only i could crash this router im behind. i somehow doubt it :/ huge stuff with lots of computers connected to it and stuff D:
#267 [02:22] <aetherian> I'unno
#268 [02:23] <aetherian> you may be able to
#269 [02:23] <NotiCon> just need some kind of udp spamming tool then
#270 [02:23] <aetherian> why udp
#271 [02:23] <aetherian> y u no liek tcp
#272 [02:23] <NotiCon> cause tcp is limited?
#273 [02:23] <Kealper> NotiCon: funny....
#274 [02:24] <Kealper> because that's what i'm making
#275 [02:24] <aetherian> well
#276 [02:24] <aetherian> if you don't have tcp
#277 [02:24] <Kealper> did you want to play russian roulette with the non-rate-limited one?
#278 [02:24] <aetherian> *if you don't have udp
#279 [02:24] <aetherian> then you have to use tcp
#280 [02:25] * Zoroark [Zoroark@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#281 [02:26] <Kealper> NotiCon: before i even bother commenting out the rate-limit stuff i'm working on in this and compiling it for you to test your router....do a speed test from http://speedtest.net first so i can see if i should let you aim this at me lol
#282 [02:26] <NotiCon> again not my router
#283 [02:26] <NotiCon> its the schools network stuff
#284 [02:26] <Kealper> oh lol
#285 [02:27] <Kealper> my friend tried it a few hours ago on her dorm's internet
#286 [02:27] <Kealper> luckily it crashed the router instead of just locking it up, so it recovered in a few sec
#287 [02:27] <NotiCon> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1273416813.png
#288 [02:27] <Kealper> oh, yeah, screw that..that would hurt a bit
#289 [02:27] <NotiCon> but yea im guessing alot of stuff will go down if it goes down
#290 [02:28] <Core2> ok try this now, ip: 10.0.0.14
#291 [02:28] <Core2> hope this works
#292 [02:28] <Kealper> Core2: only you will be able to connect to that ip...
#293 [02:28] <Kealper> that is a local one
#294 [02:28] * m0nk [m0nk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#295 [02:28] <Core2> but thingy says it might work
#296 [02:28] <Kealper> if you need to test port forwarding, type !check in here
#297 [02:28] <Core2> i did port forwarding
#298 [02:28] <Core2> just did it all
#299 [02:28] <Core2> hopefully
#300 [02:29] <Kealper> also...if you need your external ip.... type !myip
#301 [02:29] <Kealper> like so...
#302 [02:29] <Kealper> !myip
#303 [02:29] <Core2> ok
#304 [02:29] <Core2> !myip
#305 [02:29] <Kealper> that is the ip address that people should use to join your server
#306 [02:29] <Kealper> !check 123.211.10.217
#307 [02:30] <Kealper> and it looks like people are able to connect :o
#308 [02:30] <NotiCon> cant even play minecraft on a server from here :(
#309 [02:30] <Kealper> really?
#310 [02:30] <Kealper> do they block 25565?
#311 [02:30] <NotiCon> most likely
#312 [02:30] <Kealper> :/
#313 [02:30] <NotiCon> they block a lot of stuff
#314 [02:31] <Kealper> they probably block all the higher ports to discourage torrenting then :/
#315 [02:31] <m0nk> Core2: did you click apply and failed at the router settings? = click add then go to Assign a game or application to a local network device then go to start - run - type cmd write ipconfig thats the ip you assign in the router to the ip in minecraft then you need to type in ports before clicking add
#316 [02:31] <NotiCon> also true
#317 [02:31] <NotiCon> but hey all one needs is a vpn
#318 [02:31] <Kealper> m0nk: Core2's port forwarding is fine, people should be able to connect to his server now
#319 [02:31] <m0nk> ip?
#320 [02:31] <Kealper> 123.211.10.217
#321 [02:32] <Kealper> that !check command for AuBot actually makes AuBot connect to a minecraft server as if it were a client, and if it can connect, it will disconnect really fast and then say that it was good to go
#322 [02:32] <Core2> ok i ran simple port forwarding and it used 10.0.0.14
#323 [02:32] <Kealper> if it was unable to connect, it would say that it wasn't able to
#324 [02:32] <m0nk> failed to connect to server
#325 [02:32] <Kealper> !check 123.211.10.217
#326 [02:33] <Core2> so try that one because i dont get the error but i do when i use 123.211.10.217
#327 [02:33] <m0nk> did you write the ports in the thing before clicking add?
#328 [02:33] <Kealper> he did something or stopped the minecraft server then
#329 [02:33] <Core2> !check 10.0.0.14
#330 [02:33] <Core2> damn
#331 [02:33] <Kealper> Core2: whatever you did before...do that again....because you had it perfect the last time
#332 [02:33] <Kealper> and i told you that was a local address...
#333 [02:34] <Core2> yeah
#334 [02:34] <Core2> !check 123.211.10.217
#335 [02:34] * BlackGyver_ [BlackGyver_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#336 [02:34] <Core2> i didnt change anything though :(
#337 [02:34] <Kealper> the minecraft server is still running...right?
#338 [02:34] * Glendening [Glendening@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#339 [02:35] <m0nk> do the same thing again. click on Create a new game or application. write the ports 25565 to 25565 and 25565 in the long box. then you click add then you press Assign a game or application to a local network device then you add the ip with the 123.211.x.x in there and you'r good to go
#340 [02:35] <Core2> it opens but says [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#341 [02:35] <Kealper> oh
#342 [02:35] <m0nk> then do what i said then it'l work
#343 [02:35] <Kealper> no
#344 [02:35] <Core2> !check 123.211.10.217
#345 [02:35] <Kealper> i don't mean to sound like a douche, but i'm going to sound like a douche
#346 [02:35] <Kealper> m0nk: stop talking...you're going to make him break something
#347 [02:36] <Kealper> Core2: did you touch the server.properties file at all?
#348 [02:36] <m0nk> you'r agitating him
#349 [02:36] <Core2> yeah
#350 [02:36] <Kealper> untouch it
#351 [02:36] <Core2> ok so what should it be?
#352 [02:36] <Kealper> leave server-ip blank in that file
#353 [02:36] <Core2> ok
#354 [02:36] <Core2> and then run the server
#355 [02:36] <Core2> ?
#356 [02:36] <Kealper> stop the mc server, then start it again to apply the change
#357 [02:36] <Kealper> and then type !check
#358 [02:37] <Core2> !check 123.211.10.217
#359 [02:37] <Core2> woooooooo
#360 [02:37] <Kealper> ok...fixed..again
#361 [02:37] <m0nk> i'm in
#362 [02:37] <Core2> awesome
#363 [02:38] * Kealper goes back to a screen of code again
#363 [02:38] <Core2> thanks :D
#364 [02:41] <m0nk> how come his world doesnt terrain load for me?
#365 [02:42] <lemon-rev> because your not waiting long enough
#366 [02:42] <m0nk> im falling over and over again dced some times reconnected didnt load then either
#367 [02:42] <lemon-rev> thats prob because hes connectioon isnt good enough for a decent server
#368 [02:42] <lemon-rev> or your too far away
#369 [02:44] <Core2> my connection is full...
#370 [02:44] <Kealper> Core2: http://speedtest.net run test, link the "share" image here after the test
#371 [02:44] <m0nk> what do you mean full?
#372 [02:45] <Core2> can someone else try my server 123.211.10.217
#373 [02:45] <Core2> mean full as in 5 bars for wireless
#374 [02:45] <Kealper> dangit...this rate-limit is just being completely useless
#375 [02:45] <Kealper> Core2: that is not your internet speed, that is your internal network speed :/
#376 [02:45] * Spencillaa [Spencillaa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#377 [02:45] <Core2> yeah ok checking now
#378 [02:45] <Spencillaa> Were safe here
#379 [02:46] <Kealper> actually that isn't even your internal network speed..that's just the SNR of your wireless signal
#380 [02:46] <Kealper> Spencillaa: wut
#381 [02:46] <Spencillaa> idk...
#382 [02:46] * Wijk [Wijk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#383 [02:46] <Spencillaa> XD whoo has good mods? i need a mod that gives me /give commands and such :/
#384 [02:46] <Spencillaa> i downloaded plane and gun modes but dont wanna farm mats
#385 [02:46] <Spencillaa> **mods
#386 [02:46] <Kealper> uhh.....for single player?
#387 [02:46] <Core2> my speed is 2.82 mbps
#388 [02:46] <Spencillaa> Yeah
#389 [02:47] * Punish3r [Punish3r@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#390 [02:47] <Kealper> SinglePlayerCommands
#391 [02:47] <m0nk> what country do you live?
#392 [02:47] <Spencillaa> just google that?
#393 [02:47] * Punish3r [Punish3r@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#394 [02:47] <Core2> Australia
#395 [02:47] <Spencillaa> and i will find it
#396 [02:47] <Kealper> m0nk: what are the upload speed, the download speed, and the ping for that?
#397 [02:47] <Kealper> i mean Core2*
#398 [02:47] <m0nk> that's why i'm dying lagging bobbing
#399 [02:47] <Core2> upload is 0.72
#400 [02:47] <Spencillaa> while were at it who knows afew other good mods that dont clash with others?
#401 [02:47] <m0nk> me?
#402 [02:47] <m0nk> wtf
#403 [02:47] <Core2> ping is 55ms
#404 [02:48] <m0nk> for australia?
#405 [02:48] <Kealper> Core2: how many people did you plan to have on your server at once?
#406 [02:48] <Core2> dont know
#407 [02:48] <Spencillaa> thanks kealper
#408 [02:48] <Core2> just a couple
#409 [02:48] <Kealper> Core2: because your internet is only going to handle like...two and yourself :/
#410 [02:48] <Spencillaa> get a dedi lols
#411 [02:49] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#412 [02:49] <Spencillaa> there not that much if you can get adds and server traffic :P
#413 [02:49] <Spencillaa> **ads
#414 [02:49] <Kealper> Spencillaa: that highly depends on why he wanted the server, if it was just for him and a friend, it would work
#415 [02:49] <Spencillaa> troo
#416 [02:49] <m0nk> 357 ms to au
#417 [02:49] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#418 [02:49] <Kealper> Core2: i'm on your server just fine, and i'm from the usa
#419 [02:50] <Spencillaa> someone made this sweet application for mac that makes adding mods easier
#420 [02:50] <Spencillaa> i now use mods
#421 [02:50] <Spencillaa> before that program came out i never bothered too lazy
#422 [02:50] <Spencillaa> macs have to complicate everything
#423 [02:50] <Kealper> Spencillaa: i think there is one called like ModLoader or whatever that works for all OSes
#424 [02:50] <xales> Kealper: Modloader is an API for modders, not end-users
#425 [02:50] <Spencillaa> i think i had it
#426 [02:50] <xales> to prevent conflicts
#427 [02:50] <Spencillaa> i couldnt figure it out tho
#428 [02:50] <Core2> kealper ive teled u to me can u see anything?
#429 [02:51] <m0nk> falling*
#430 [02:52] <Spencillaa> oh my goodness...
#431 [02:52] <Spencillaa> i have 2 patch.properties
#432 [02:52] <Spencillaa> but for 2 diff mods
#433 [02:52] <Spencillaa> problem
#434 [02:53] <Spencillaa> cause they cant both in the folder
#435 [02:53] <Kealper> Core2: hmm....
#436 [02:53] <_303> Spencillaa: dummy. patch.properties is for the tfc modmanager, not a mod file.
#437 [02:53] <Kealper> Core2: what IP are you using to connect to your own server?
#438 [02:53] <_303> metadata of some sort
#439 [02:53] <Core2> i dont know
#440 [02:53] <Spencillaa> so it doesnt matter?
#441 [02:53] <m0nk> do you type localhost?
#442 [02:53] <Core2> would be the local one
#443 [02:53] <Spencillaa> o.O
#444 [02:53] <_303> no. what modmanager do you use? if any
#445 [02:53] <Kealper> Core2: use 127.0.0.1 to get on your server
#446 [02:53] * AkiTensai [AkiTensai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#447 [02:54] <Spencillaa> hrm im using ugh none lol
#448 [02:54] <Spencillaa> im just adding directly to the .jar
#449 [02:54] <Spencillaa> works for all other mods...
#450 [02:54] <_303> yeah, then the patch.properties file doesn't matter at all
#451 [02:54] <Spencillaa> oh
#452 [02:54] <Spencillaa> :D
#453 [02:54] <Kealper> Core2: to be honest, i don't think your wireless adapter can keep up with hosting a server
#454 [02:54] <Core2> ok yeah it connected
#455 [02:54] <Core2> with the other ip
#456 [02:55] <Core2> when i worked with hamachi it was working
#457 [02:55] <Core2> if the other person had it too
#458 [02:55] <m0nk> wireless connecting ppl
#459 [02:55] <Kealper> well...the way it is right now
#460 [02:56] <Kealper> people can use connect to your server with hamachi or with normal
#461 [02:56] <Kealper> but it doesn't seem to like doing the normal connection
#462 [02:56] <Core2> grr
#463 [02:56] <NotiCon> Core2: why are you using hamaci?
#464 [02:56] <Core2> try now that ive used 127.0.0.1
#465 [02:56] <Core2> im not now but i was
#466 [02:56] <m0nk> you'r server is still on wireless
#467 [02:57] * Silent_Samurai [Silent_Samurai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#468 [02:57] <Core2> yeah
#469 [02:57] <Core2> my laptop is on wireless
#470 [02:57] <NotiCon> why were you then
#471 [02:57] <Core2> because i watched a utube vid and hamachi worked
#472 [02:58] <Kealper> Core2: disconnect from your server again, i think you being on it is causing this
#473 [02:58] <Kealper> and if it is....i might know why
#474 [02:58] <Core2> ok disconnected
#475 [02:58] * skylermeans [skylermeans@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#476 [02:58] <m0nk> it rendered some before he got in. i got in before him then he came in then i dced then i lagged
#477 [02:59] <skylermeans> can sum1 help me?
#478 [02:59] * Glendening [Glendening@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#479 [02:59] <skylermeans> umm
#480 [02:59] <Kealper> skylermeans: with?
#481 [02:59] <Kealper> Core2: how much ram does your laptop have?
#482 [03:00] <skylermeans> whenever i try to join a server
#483 [03:00] <skylermeans> ummm
#484 [03:00] <skylermeans> 4gb
#485 [03:00] <Kealper> Core2: and you can confirm that it worked fine with other people when they used hamachi?
#486 [03:00] <Core2> yes it did
#487 [03:00] <Kealper> skylermeans: that last question was directed at someone else
#488 [03:00] <skylermeans> otay
#489 [03:00] <Core2> umm
#490 [03:00] <Kealper> skylermeans: but anyways, continue...lol
#491 [03:00] <Core2> 2gb im not sure though
#492 [03:00] <Spencillaa> lighting set fire to forrest
#493 [03:00] * Iguana [Iguana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#494 [03:00] <Spencillaa> crashes my client
#495 [03:01] <Spencillaa> ...
#496 [03:01] <Kealper> Core2: that's actually...not enough to host a server and play at the same time
#497 [03:01] <Core2> no its 4gb
#498 [03:01] <Core2> just checked
#499 [03:01] * OmegaVesko [OmegaVesko@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#500 [03:01] <skylermeans> umm wenever i try to join a server
#501 [03:01] <Kealper> Core2: oh, that is....hmm
#502 [03:01] <NotiCon> skylermeans: then what?!?
#503 [03:01] <Spencillaa> i get by on 2 gb
#504 [03:01] <Kealper> Core2: still got Hamachi running?
#505 [03:01] <Spencillaa> or 4
#506 [03:01] <Spencillaa> idk
#507 [03:01] <Spencillaa> XD
#508 [03:01] <Core2> nope
#509 [03:01] <skylermeans> it says unable to connect: connect
#510 [03:01] <skylermeans> or sumtin like that
#511 [03:01] <NotiCon> you sure that server is running?
#512 [03:01] <m0nk> are you remotely connecting or hosting the server through hamachi?
#513 [03:01] <Kealper> skylermeans: try connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net and yes, you put that inside the ip spot
#514 [03:02] <Core2> im not doing anything with hamachi anymore but it worked when i did
#515 [03:02] * Silent_Samurai [Silent_Samurai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#516 [03:02] <Kealper> Core2: run hamachi, i want to see if it works fine for me when using that
#517 [03:02] <skylermeans> o.o
#518 [03:02] * Kurimus [Kurimus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#519 [03:02] <skylermeans> that worked
#520 [03:02] <skylermeans> but also
#521 [03:03] <skylermeans> me and my friend use hamachi
#522 [03:03] <Kealper> skylermeans: then the server you were trying to connect to was not running, or it was not configured right
#523 [03:03] <Core2> but you need to have hamachi and be connected to my game for tha
#524 [03:03] <Core2> t
#525 [03:03] <Kealper> Core2: i have Hamachi lol
#526 [03:03] <Spencillaa> can peoples dedis use hamachi?
#527 [03:03] <Spencillaa> jw
#528 [03:03] <skylermeans> he was in the server and other freinds were able to join too but not me
#529 [03:03] <Core2> ok my game is CoreyGame pass is ninja
#530 [03:03] <Kealper> Spencillaa: it's not recommended, Hamachi is pretty crappy
#531 [03:03] <Spencillaa> i know
#532 [03:03] <NotiCon> but why are you using hamachi for playing?
#533 [03:04] <Core2> and ip is 5.33.83.109
#534 [03:04] <Spencillaa> i dont use hamachi :3
#535 [03:04] <NotiCon> Spencillaa: not pointed towards you
#536 [03:04] <Kealper> bah....hold on, i had hamachi completely disabled..gotta reenable it
#537 [03:04] <m0nk> Core2 what's your hamachi network id and pass in pm if you have?
#538 [03:05] <skylermeans> k one more question. i dont have a router, but a wireless connection. is it possible for me to start a server? i tried to befor, but it didnt work
#539 [03:05] * nipper [nipper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#540 [03:05] <Core2> how to pm?
#541 [03:05] <m0nk> nvm
#542 [03:05] <Kealper> m0nk: 03:02:20 <Core2> ok my game is CoreyGame pass is ninja
#543 [03:05] <Core2> yeh i see u
#544 [03:05] <m0nk> i saw that
#545 [03:05] <Core2> so the ip is 5.33.83.109
#546 [03:06] <Core2> ok dont worry i have to go to work
#547 [03:06] <Spencillaa> weird
#548 [03:06] <m0nk> still falling
#549 [03:06] <Core2> ill be back later on
#550 [03:07] <Spencillaa> the stk gun mode keeps crashing my server whenever i use the shotgun to actually attack a monster
#551 [03:07] <Core2> thanks
#552 [03:07] <Spencillaa> fuuuuuu
#553 [03:07] <Kealper> Core2: before you go
#554 [03:07] <m0nk> now i got the internal exception
#555 [03:07] <Spencillaa> ** client not server
#556 [03:07] <m0nk> prolly shut donw
#557 [03:07] <Kealper> RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
#558 [03:07] <Kealper> i was typing something >.>
#559 [03:07] * NotiCon pats Kealper
#559 [03:07] <lemon-rev> Spencillaa < i think stop useing gun mod you lol
#560 [03:07] <Spencillaa> i like it !
#561 [03:08] <lemon-rev> well its crashing, so keep it and crash and burn
#562 [03:08] <Spencillaa> I WILL
#563 [03:08] <Spencillaa> :/
#564 [03:08] <skylermeans> any1 answer me?
#565 [03:08] <NotiCon> burn and crash
#566 [03:08] * m0nk gotta piss
#566 [03:08] <Spencillaa> hrmk
#567 [03:08] <NotiCon> skylermeans: wireless is crap for hosting a server
#568 [03:08] <lemon-rev> monk not in channel please we dont need a mess to clean up :P
#569 [03:09] <Spencillaa> it is troo
#570 [03:09] <Spencillaa> but you can do it
#571 [03:09] <Spencillaa> XD
#572 [03:09] * Kxania [Kxania@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#573 [03:09] <Kxania> !check inforgamtion.dyndns.org
#574 [03:10] <Kxania> Hmm.
#575 [03:10] <Kxania> Can someone try connect?
#576 [03:10] <Kealper> what's it doing? (or lack thereof)
#577 [03:10] <skylermeans> helloooo//?
#578 [03:10] <Kealper> skylermeans: o.o
#579 [03:10] <Kxania> Everyone who tries to connect just gets timed out O.o
#580 [03:11] <skylermeans> o srry ....
#581 [03:11] <Kealper> skylermeans: if you have wireless, you have a router...UNLESS
#582 [03:11] <m0nk> wasnt that the thing VoxelHead talked about getting password changed stuff ip?
#583 [03:11] <Kealper> skylermeans: unless you mean 3/4g mobile broadband
#584 [03:11] <skylermeans> messed up accidentally froze screen
#585 [03:12] <skylermeans> i liek 2 press buttonsd....
#586 [03:12] <m0nk> f5+f1?
#587 [03:12] <skylermeans> idk....
#588 [03:12] <Kealper> Kxania: hmm...stop your server, open server.properties and then change online-mode to false, save, then start the server again
#589 [03:13] <Kxania> O.o okay...
#590 [03:13] <Kealper> skylermeans: when you say screen...do you mean the unix program or your monitor?
#591 [03:13] * Bofrostmann [Bofrostmann@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#592 [03:13] * Bofrostmann [Bofrostmann@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#593 [03:13] <skylermeans> idk wat im using internet ... visiting family in sooo ... yeah ... but i no i dont have a router ....
#594 [03:13] <Kxania> Okay done...
#595 [03:13] <skylermeans> sorta weird
#596 [03:14] <Kealper> skylermeans: ok, you may not have a router...but your family does and that is what you are connected to
#597 [03:14] <skylermeans> >.>
#598 [03:14] <Kealper> but that also means...that you probably don't have access to said router, so no...you can't host a server
#599 [03:14] <skylermeans> NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuZZZZZZZ!
#600 [03:15] <Kxania> -_-
#601 [03:15] <Kealper> unless you used the forbidden H-word
#602 [03:15] <skylermeans> : The
#603 [03:15] <Kealper> Kxania: anywho...juggling two people at once lol
#604 [03:15] <skylermeans> : The
#605 [03:15] <Kxania> :P nah it's k.
#606 [03:15] <Kealper> Kxania: can you connect to it yourself?
#607 [03:15] <skylermeans> Ummm
#608 [03:15] <Kxania> I was "-_-"'ing skyler for spamming chat..
#609 [03:15] <skylermeans> and haz hamachi
#610 [03:15] <Kxania> Yes I can...
#611 [03:15] <skylermeans> THAT
#612 [03:15] <skylermeans> worked fine
#613 [03:15] <m0nk> rofl
#614 [03:15] <skylermeans> ONCE
#615 [03:16] <Kealper> skylermeans: yeah, that H-word
#616 [03:16] <skylermeans> but then i tried to start server
#617 [03:16] <skylermeans> O.o
#618 [03:16] <skylermeans> and....
#619 [03:16] <skylermeans> its too sad to tell...
#620 [03:16] <Kxania> DUDE
#621 [03:17] <skylermeans> IT SAID DA PORT WAS IN USE!!!!
#622 [03:17] <Kxania> TYPE IN FULL FUCKING SENTENCES, PLEASE.
#623 [03:17] <skylermeans> D:
#624 [03:17] <Kealper> XD
#625 [03:17] <Kxania> Jesus Christ!
#626 [03:17] * Kealper was just thinking that, himself
#626 [03:17] <skylermeans> #:^(
#627 [03:18] <NotiCon> jesus doing christ?
#628 [03:18] <skylermeans> lol
#629 [03:18] <skylermeans> o.o
#630 [03:18] <Kxania> Stop spamming the chat, oh my god..
#631 [03:18] <skylermeans> n
#632 [03:18] <skylermeans> the
#633 [03:19] <m0nk> d'OING can't be pout in sentence cause technically it's not a word
#634 [03:19] <skylermeans> n
#635 [03:19] <skylermeans> and
#636 [03:19] <skylermeans> in
#637 [03:19] <skylermeans> and
#638 [03:19] <skylermeans> r
#639 [03:19] <Kxania> FUCK OFF.
#640 [03:19] <Kealper> skylermeans: ok seriously...it's not funny anymore
#641 [03:19] <skylermeans> the
#642 [03:19] <skylermeans> to
#643 [03:19] <Kxania> Seriously, take your shit somewhere else.
#644 [03:19] <skylermeans> promise
#645 [03:19] <m0nk> skyler is a little baby
#646 [03:19] <Kealper> skylermeans: as in....keep typing like that and you'll be kicked from here
#647 [03:19] <NotiCon> kill it with fire!
#648 [03:19] <Kxania> Blast it with piss!
#649 [03:19] <m0nk> i just did that to the toilet
#650 [03:20] <Kealper> o.o
#651 [03:20] <Kxania> So did I ?!?
#652 [03:20] <skylermeans> lol
#653 [03:20] * |_ocke [|_ocke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#654 [03:20] <skylermeans> can any1 fix my OTHER problem?
#655 [03:20] * GreyBot [GreyBot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#656 [03:20] * GreyVulpine [GreyVulpine@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#657 [03:20] <Kealper> skylermeans: what other problem?
#658 [03:20] <skylermeans> i try to host wit
#659 [03:20] <Kxania> Dude.
#660 [03:21] <skylermeans> h-word :D and it said port was in use
#661 [03:21] <NotiCon> we dont give support to hamachi
#662 [03:21] <Kealper> skylermeans: open the server.properties file in any text edtior (Notepad)
#663 [03:21] <skylermeans> I NO IM SORRY! iy=t just comes out like that naturaly
#664 [03:21] <Kealper> skylermeans: and then clear the ip from server-ip
#665 [03:22] <Kealper> skylermeans: (so it should just say server-ip=) and then save it, and your server should start normally again
#666 [03:22] * |_ocke [|_ocke@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#667 [03:22] * |_ocke [|_ocke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#668 [03:22] <skylermeans> w/o an ip?
#669 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Oh, about time
#670 [03:22] * GreyVulpine kicks comcast
#670 [03:22] <skylermeans> whoa it did :D
#671 [03:22] <m0nk> isn't comcast a satelite?
#672 [03:22] <skylermeans> to
#673 [03:22] <Kealper> no
#674 [03:23] <Kealper> cable
#675 [03:23] <m0nk> ah
#676 [03:23] <Kealper> Kxania: your server works, btw
#677 [03:23] <Kealper> but it's quite laggy
#678 [03:23] <Kxania> I'm an aussie, that's why.
#679 [03:23] <Kealper> oh, that'd be it
#680 [03:23] <skylermeans> w/o an ip is it still possible for people to join?
#681 [03:23] <Kealper> skylermeans: no, an IP is like a phone number, you need to know it to talk to the correct person
#682 [03:23] <Kxania> Wait how is it working now that it's set to false?
#683 [03:24] <skylermeans> .....so my server is up... but noone can join?
#684 [03:24] <Kealper> Kxania: that option's name is decieving, it actually means it will not try and validate usernames
#685 [03:24] * |_ocke [|_ocke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#686 [03:24] <Kealper> skylermeans: not unless they have the ip... (or if you are using hamachi...not unless you allow them into your hamachi network)
#687 [03:24] <skylermeans> ok
#688 [03:25] <Kxania> Oh, I see.
#689 [03:25] <Kealper> Kxania: what i told you to do was actually just masking a more serious problem....but as a random question: are you using Google's DNS?
#690 [03:25] * m0nk says that scooter - the leading horse is kick ass
#690 [03:25] <Kxania> No.
#691 [03:25] <Kxania> DYNdns ..
#692 [03:25] <m0nk> it is
#693 [03:25] <Kealper> Kxania: no, not that....
#694 [03:26] <Kxania> O.o
#695 [03:26] <Kealper> Kxania: if you don't know what i was talking about, then you probably arn't...
#696 [03:26] <Kealper> anyways
#697 [03:26] <Kxania> Okey dokey O.o
#698 [03:27] <m0nk> xana .-.
#699 [03:27] <Kealper> basically something is causing your server to fail at checking the usernames against minecraft.net....the correct fix would be to figure out why, but the duct-tape i gave you would be just not having it check in the first place
#700 [03:27] <Kealper> so the problem is still there....it's just...bypassed
#701 [03:27] <Kealper> if that's alright with you, then we can leave it at that
#702 [03:28] <Kxania> Yeah that's cool.. I mean, it worked before, but meh..
#703 [03:28] <Kealper> also you said you were from austrailia...how many GB per month do you have for transfer? because minecraft can be a bandwidth hog
#704 [03:28] <skylermeans> wait
#705 [03:28] <skylermeans> o.o
#706 [03:28] <Kxania> 60gb
#707 [03:29] <Kealper> oh...meh, should be fine if it's just a small server
#708 [03:29] <Kxania> Yep yep
#709 [03:29] <Kxania> Anyway, thanks for the help... seeyas later :P
#710 [03:29] * Kxania [Kxania@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#711 [03:30] <m0nk> [09:30] * +fogurt sets ire t a itten and launces it wit a p0tat0 gun
#712 [03:30] <m0nk> lawl
#713 [03:31] <Kealper> i lost a few brain cells trying to interpret that >.>
#714 [03:31] <skylermeans> i dont understand, if there isnt a set ip in the server... its useless?
#715 [03:31] <m0nk> came from efnet
#716 [03:31] <skylermeans> because u cant join it
#717 [03:31] <Kealper> skylermeans: that setting is not what you think it means...just trust me when i say it will work
#718 [03:31] <m0nk> the ip to the server is you'r portforwarding ip
#719 [03:32] <Kealper> bad m0nk, bad!
#720 [03:32] <m0nk> right?
#721 [03:32] <skylermeans> well im trying to join it.. D
#722 [03:32] <Kealper> that setver-ip line is not needed for most people
#723 [03:32] <g> Leave it unset
#724 [03:32] <Kealper> server-ip*
#725 [03:32] <g> It's for servers that have more than one IP address
#726 [03:32] <Kealper> ^
#727 [03:33] <Kealper> skylermeans: you can join it by using the ip 127.0.0.1
#728 [03:33] <skylermeans> Line 1:Failed to connect to server
#729 [03:34] <skylermeans> Line 2 Connection refused: connect
#730 [03:34] <Kealper> the server is running...right?
#731 [03:34] <g> port
#732 [03:34] * VoxelHead is back
#732 [03:34] <skylermeans> yea... T_T
#733 [03:34] <Kealper> oh, and that...did you change the port it works on?
#734 [03:34] <Kealper> because it should stay at 25565 unless you have a really good reason to change it
#735 [03:34] <skylermeans> 25565?
#736 [03:34] <skylermeans> thats the 1 its set 2
#737 [03:35] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: go away D:
#738 [03:35] <VoxelHead> hai!
#739 [03:35] <Kealper> lol
#740 [03:35] <g> vox, shut up
#741 [03:35] <g> -VoxelHead- I already am silent :P
#742 [03:35] <g> lies
#743 [03:35] <skylermeans> o. ..
#744 [03:35] <Kealper> :o
#745 [03:36] <skylermeans> it was set to 25567>.> but i changet it heres what it says
#746 [03:36] <Kealper> skylermeans: ok so....server-port is 25565 and server-ip is nothing in the server.properties file?
#747 [03:36] <Kealper> ._.
#748 [03:36] <skylermeans> Line 1: **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#749 [03:36] <g> You ran it twice
#750 [03:37] <xales> Kealper: Python \o/ http://pastebin.com/BtKFZyHv
#751 [03:37] <Kealper> Mojang should buy this channel a LogMeIn Rescue account
#752 [03:37] <g> time?
#753 [03:37] <g> Kealper: lol
#754 [03:37] <skylermeans> Line 2 The exception was: java.net.bindexception: cannot assign requested address: JVM_ Bind
#755 [03:38] <g> skylermeans: <g> You ran it twice
#756 [03:38] <Kealper> skylermeans: make sure all instances of the server are stopped
#757 [03:38] <skylermeans> Line 3: Perhaps a server is already running on this port?
#758 [03:38] <Kealper> then try again
#759 [03:38] <skylermeans> >.>
#760 [03:38] <xales> Kealper: look at that file :P
#761 [03:38] <g> lol it even tells him and he feels the need to paste it
#762 [03:38] <skylermeans> is that .. like in proccesses menu?
#763 [03:38] * Szernex [Szernex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#764 [03:38] <Kealper> xales: large repo indeed.....
#765 [03:39] * g facedesks
#765 [03:39] <xales> Kealper:
#766 [03:39] <xales> -rw-r--r-- 1 xales xales 1.2M Apr 29 03:33 /home/xales/public_html/largeRepo.xml
#767 [03:39] * g doesn't get involved
#767 [03:39] <xales> g: wut
#768 [03:39] <Kealper> wait, a 1.2mb xml file? that's meh lol
#769 [03:39] <NotiCon> why is there spam in that xml file?
#770 [03:40] <xales> NotiCon: I'm testing something
#771 [03:40] <xales> :P
#772 [03:40] <xales> NotiCon: http://pastebin.com/BtKFZyHv
#773 [03:40] <NotiCon> i noticed
#774 [03:40] <xales> well, that's why
#775 [03:40] <NotiCon> but you wanted some spam with that spam?
#776 [03:41] <Kealper> not nearly enough spam
#777 [03:41] <g> xales: time?
#778 [03:41] <Kealper> and it should be fried
#779 [03:41] * MiLk [MiLk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#780 [03:41] <Kealper> with some salt
#781 [03:41] <xales> g: time (command) = prints how long it took for (command) to execute
#782 [03:41] <g> oh right
#783 [03:41] <Kealper> and a glass of the person who just joined
#784 [03:41] <xales> Kealper: my compression is <3
#785 [03:41] <xales> it compressed the XML down into just -rw-r--r-- 1 xales xales 324K Apr 29 03:34 cache.db
#786 [03:41] <Kealper> lol
#787 [03:41] <g> lol.
#788 [03:41] <aetherian> lul, compression
#789 [03:42] <xales> and that's not even xml stored in there, it's serialized data ;P
#790 [03:42] <Kealper> your compression? like....something you made? or random compression?
#791 [03:42] <skylermeans> k hopefully all instances are closed i think (maybe) hopefully (idunhaveafuckingclu)
#792 [03:42] <xales> Kealper: gzip -9
#793 [03:42] <xales> :P
#794 [03:42] <Kealper> oh lol
#795 [03:43] * g shrugs and goes off to farm achievements in Portal 2
#795 [03:43] <NotiCon> hf gPortal2002
#796 [03:43] <Kealper> lol
#797 [03:43] <gPortal2002> :P
#798 [03:43] <skylermeans> ...zzzz...?
#799 [03:43] <Kealper> where does the 2002 come from >.>
#800 [03:43] <_303> year of birth
#801 [03:43] <skylermeans> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU .....!
#802 [03:43] <Kealper> _303: god i hope not
#803 [03:43] <gPortal2002> No year of brith
#804 [03:44] <gPortal2002> birth*
#805 [03:44] <Kealper> skylermeans: want some Fs with those Us?
#806 [03:44] <gPortal2002> Year of registration
#807 [03:44] <skylermeans> already have 1
#808 [03:44] * m0nk has downloaded all the voices from the turrets in portal 2 and am thikning about adding them to computer sounds :D:D:)
#808 [03:44] * VoxelHead has m0nk
#808 [03:44] * m0nk smokes that part of the memory chip from vox
#808 [03:44] <m0nk> :D
#809 [03:44] <VoxelHead> Mmmmm.
#810 [03:44] <VoxelHead> -_-
#811 [03:44] <Kealper> skylermeans: ok...so...does it start now?
#812 [03:45] <skylermeans> NOPE
#813 [03:45] <Kealper> then you're doing something wrong
#814 [03:45] <skylermeans> in FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU'ing irl
#815 [03:45] <skylermeans> lol
#816 [03:45] <skylermeans> jk jk but h
#817 [03:45] <Kealper> throw your server.properties on http://pastebin.com and then put the url for it in here
#818 [03:46] <skylermeans> ow do i make sure that all instances r closed D: inoino im n0000bzor
#819 [03:46] <skylermeans> but im alo 1337!!
#820 [03:47] <Kealper> ok then..did you want to feel like a "1337 h4xx0r"?
#821 [03:47] <skylermeans> yesh
#822 [03:47] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#823 [03:47] <Kealper> open cmd and type taskkill /f /im javaw.exe
#824 [03:49] <skylermeans> otay said it was not found
#825 [03:50] <skylermeans> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuu
#826 [03:50] <skylermeans> *kills self*
#827 [03:51] <Kealper> taskkill /f /im java.exe
#828 [03:51] <skylermeans> http://pastebin.com/gf8Zkpjh
#829 [03:51] <Kealper> and stop spamming the FUUUUs
#830 [03:51] <Kealper> and i told you to take out the ip in server-ip
#831 [03:52] <Kealper> it should just say server-ip=
#832 [03:52] <skylermeans> wtf
#833 [03:52] <skylermeans> but i did
#834 [03:52] <skylermeans> >.<
#835 [03:52] <xales> No, you didn't
#836 [03:52] <skylermeans> Y IS IT THERE I SAVED IT!!@
#837 [03:53] <Kealper> skylermeans: done yet>
#838 [03:53] <Kealper> ?*
#839 [03:53] <skylermeans> ZOOOMG!!!!
#840 [03:53] <skylermeans> DIFFICULT
#841 [03:53] <skylermeans> : The
#842 [03:53] <Kealper> and less caps, too
#843 [03:53] <skylermeans> IT WURKED!
#844 [03:55] <xales> D:
#845 [03:55] * skylermeans [skylermeans@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#846 [03:55] <skylermeans> srry i dced
#847 [03:55] <skylermeans> after i said WURKED
#848 [03:55] <Kealper> yeah....we seen...
#849 [03:55] <xales> Can you make some attempt to type normal English, like a normal human being? Or is it really that difficult for you?
#850 [03:56] <skylermeans> omg it iz suuu dificult
#851 [03:58] <Kealper> ok...the lolcat crap can stop now, you can start typing like a normal person now >.>
#852 [03:58] <skylermeans> awwzor... faine lolcatmode=false
#853 [03:59] <Kealper> did you remove the ip from the server-ip line yet? >.>
#854 [03:59] <Kealper> feign*
#855 [03:59] <Kealper> also...it would do good to be quick about this
#856 [04:00] * BlackGyver [BlackGyver@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#857 [04:00] <skylermeans> yes i did fine chap! it works absolutely splendid now.. splendid indeed
#858 [04:00] <skylermeans> wait what was the command you told me to use in cmd.exe my fine sir?
#859 [04:00] * Kealper kicked skylermeans from #minecrafthelp (Reason: skylermeans)
#860 [04:00] <xales> Early.
#861 [04:01] <Kealper> one extreme to the other
#862 [04:01] <Kealper> i'm too tired to deal with that level of immaturity
#863 [04:01] <xales> Damn time
#864 [04:01] <xales> is it just me, or did ntpd finally sync? ._.
#865 [04:01] <xales> no, it sync'd
#866 [04:01] <xales> stupid slow...gah
#867 [04:01] <xales> well then, it's past 4:00
#868 [04:02] <Kealper> hmm
#869 [04:02] <Kealper> your server is like 4 sec slower than mine
#870 [04:02] * Kealper checks if npt client is being dumb
#870 [04:03] <Kealper> drat
#871 [04:03] <Kealper> Your clock is 4.0 seconds early. The exact current time is:
#872 [04:03] * BarryCarlyon [BarryCarlyon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#873 [04:03] <xales> orly?
#874 [04:03] <xales> Fri Apr 29 04:03:17 EDT 2011
#875 [04:03] <Kealper> no, that was for
#876 [04:03] <Kealper> me*
#877 [04:03] <Kealper> my server is exactly 4 sec wrong
#878 [04:03] <xales> oh
#879 [04:04] <m0nk> EDT?
#880 [04:04] <m0nk> east down town?
#881 [04:04] <xales> EDT = Eastern Daylight Time
#882 [04:04] <m0nk> ah
#883 [04:04] <Kealper> Eastern Da..ninja
#884 [04:05] <xales> Kealper: You should examine the code for mcpkg
#885 [04:05] <xales> I wrote 99% of it
#886 [04:05] <xales> ...for now
#887 [04:05] <Kealper> i seriously have to use an admin account to sync my time to an ntp server? bah....
#888 [04:06] <xales> the biggest part will be the actual patching, which I will be minimally involved with
#889 [04:06] * |_ocke [|_ocke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#890 [04:06] <Kealper> xales: o.o
#891 [04:06] <xales> ?
#892 [04:07] <Kealper> this has like...a whole folder of stuff in it lol
#893 [04:07] <xales> yes
#894 [04:07] <xales> ._.
#895 [04:07] <xales> start in mcpkg/repository/repo.py
#896 [04:10] <xales> anyway, I'm off to bed
#897 [04:10] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#898 [04:16] * Tanjoodo_ [Tanjoodo_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#899 [04:18] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#900 [04:21] * Silent_Samurai [Silent_Samurai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#901 [04:26] * Wijk [Wijk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#902 [04:26] * |_ocke [|_ocke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#903 [04:28] * Odysimus [Odysimus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#904 [04:35] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#905 [04:46] <dolseni> I am broke and have no money to go shopping, so I made some rice to eat. What can I add to the rice to make it not taste so bland? This is a very serious minecraft related question... i swear...
#906 [04:46] <dolseni> >.>
#907 [04:48] <abysed> no teriyaki sauce im guessing
#908 [04:49] <dolseni> no, but i've got soy sauce...which isn't as good
#909 [04:49] * frogaincia [frogaincia@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#910 [04:49] <abysed> better than nothing? :P
#911 [04:49] <frogaincia> huh
#912 [04:49] <dolseni> GLaaDOS: Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation of Supercomputers
#913 [04:49] <frogaincia> New PvP server building UP PM me
#914 [04:51] <dolseni> i was trying to get a suggestion that doesn't involve the 'normal' stuff
#915 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - This isn't the channel to advertise servers, please use #smp
#916 [04:51] <dolseni> something that I wouldn't think of
#917 [04:51] * Kanji [Kanji@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#918 [05:13] * j4mie [j4mie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#919 [05:19] * zouhair [zouhair@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#920 [05:20] * zouhair [zouhair@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#921 [05:37] * MuumiJumala [MuumiJumala@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#922 [05:40] * peru [peru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#923 [06:09] * h [h@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#924 [06:09] * Sinnersaix [Sinnersaix@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#925 [06:23] * Oerg866__ [Oerg866__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#926 [06:25] * fogWraith [fogWraith@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#927 [06:44] * koulchilebaiz [koulchilebaiz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#928 [06:51] * OmegaVesko [OmegaVesko@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#929 [06:52] * CoZmicShReddeR [CoZmicShReddeR@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#930 [06:53] * Iguana [Iguana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#931 [06:53] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#932 [06:54] * Wahrheit-Sleep [Wahrheit-Sleep@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#933 [06:56] * Popz [Popz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#934 [06:56] * N [N@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#935 [07:02] * Dpunkt [Dpunkt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#936 [07:04] * CelesteA [CelesteA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#937 [07:04] * peru_ [peru_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#938 [07:08] * Flah [Flah@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#939 [07:09] * Flah [Flah@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#940 [07:09] * Mash [Mash@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#941 [07:10] * Vashidu [Vashidu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#942 [07:11] <Vashidu> hey, does anyone have the fix for the blackscreen error?
#943 [07:13] * hktangen [hktangen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#944 [07:13] <_303> what error?
#945 [07:14] <Vashidu> well i just updated my java to the newest sdk
#946 [07:14] <Vashidu> 25 or something
#947 [07:14] <Vashidu> and now minecraft starts and just has a black screen
#948 [07:16] * TheNytangel` [TheNytangel`@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#949 [07:22] * Vashidu [Vashidu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#950 [07:22] <Vashidu> okay im back.
#951 [07:22] <Vashidu> i tried deleting the .minecraft folder and redownloading, still have a black screen
#952 [07:23] * dolseni|home [dolseni|home@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#953 [07:25] * Szernex [Szernex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#954 [07:35] * VengeurK [VengeurK@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#955 [07:39] * Urughak [Urughak@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#956 [07:41] * Fuzzmz [Fuzzmz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#957 [07:48] * Kxania [Kxania@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#958 [07:48] <Kxania> Hey hey.
#959 [07:48] <Kxania> I need some help regarding my server (what a surprise, I know)
#960 [07:49] <Kxania> My server was working for the past month, and ever since I got a couple new plugins, it seems no one can connect. O.o
#961 [07:49] <Kxania> I tried turing "online-mode" to false, which worked for a second, now it's not working again -_-
#962 [07:50] <Kxania> !check inforgamtion.dyndns.org
#963 [07:50] <Kxania> ?!
#964 [07:51] <Kxania> It says it's fine, but my friend can't connect, wtf?
#965 [07:54] <Kxania> Any ideas?!
#966 [07:55] <Coll> they are blocked by their firewall?
#967 [07:56] * Shadow386 [Shadow386@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#968 [07:56] <Kxania> Hmm.
#969 [07:56] * Morrolan [Morrolan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#970 [07:56] <Kxania> They shouldn't be. They've connected before?
#971 [07:56] <Kxania> It's just after I got these few plugins, it seems to have broken.
#972 [07:57] <Kxania> So ugh...
#973 [07:58] <Morrolan> Kxania: What happened?
#974 [07:58] <Kxania> Well.
#975 [07:59] <Kxania> My server has been running fine for the past month or so, and now, only after I've got a couple plugins, no one can seem to connect.
#976 [07:59] <Morrolan> Oh.
#977 [07:59] <Coll> then remove the plugins
#978 [07:59] <Coll> seems like a logical idea
#979 [07:59] <Kxania> The !check says it's fine, but my friend (who has been able to connect previously) can't connect.
#980 [07:59] <Morrolan> Could you try disabling one plugin after the other to see which plugin causes this?
#981 [07:59] <Kxania> I guess....
#982 [08:00] <Morrolan> And when you found out you might want to contact the creator of that plugin.
#983 [08:00] <Kxania> I will most likely do that.
#984 [08:01] <Kxania> Someone on this IRC managed to connect before, though?
#985 [08:02] * Smarag [Smarag@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#986 [08:02] <Morrolan> Oh? Getting stranger and stranger. :/
#987 [08:03] <Morrolan> Just to make sure: Can you check with http://canyouseeme.org/ , so we can make sure that it's not AuBot having an issue?
#988 [08:03] <Kxania> Success: I can see your service on 121.45.50.115 on port (25565) Your ISP is not blocking port 25565
#989 [08:04] <Morrolan> Ok, then it has to be a plugin.
#990 [08:04] <Kxania> Hmm.
#991 [08:05] <Kxania> Do permissions block logging in?
#992 [08:05] <Kxania> Because I've recently added that...
#993 [08:06] <Morrolan> No idea, might want to ask in #permissions
#994 [08:16] <Kxania> Morrolan
#995 [08:16] <Morrolan> Yep?
#996 [08:17] <Kxania> It's not the plugins.
#997 [08:17] <Morrolan> Oh.
#998 [08:17] <Morrolan> Redownload a fresh server then I'd say.
#999 [08:18] <Morrolan> Actually, what error message do people get when trying to connect?
#1000 [08:18] <Kxania> Hold on a sec.
#1001 [08:19] <Kxania> failed to connect to server Connection timed out : connect
#1002 [08:20] * noobidoo [noobidoo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1003 [08:20] <Kxania> So.. ugh. Hm.
#1004 [08:20] <Kxania> Yeh, like I said, this has never happened before O.o
#1005 [08:20] <Morrolan> So it really times out. :/
#1006 [08:20] <Morrolan> Well, try your luck with a fresh server I guess.
#1007 [08:20] <Kxania> Hmm.
#1008 [08:20] <Kxania> You try connect?
#1009 [08:21] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#1010 [08:22] <Kxania> inforgamtion.dyndns.org
#1011 [08:22] * slartie [slartie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1012 [08:23] <Morrolan> Worked fne.
#1013 [08:23] <Morrolan> Getting quite a lot of lag though.
#1014 [08:25] <Morrolan> Kxania: Chat takes hours to arrive though.
#1015 [08:25] * vv [vv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1016 [08:26] * Bio_Hazzard [Bio_Hazzard@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1017 [08:28] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1018 [08:29] <Morrolan> Might want to send these guys who time out over here instead. :/
#1019 [08:30] <Morrolan> Could be something clientsided.
#1020 [08:30] <Morrolan> Anyway, afk for the next hour or so.
#1021 [08:33] * Stevo [Stevo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1022 [08:34] * firelord1789 [firelord1789@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1023 [08:35] <firelord1789> is it possible to mail notch/whoever money to buy a minecraft account?
#1024 [08:35] <Kxania> Ugh.
#1025 [08:35] <Kxania> I don't think so.
#1026 [08:35] <Kxania> How do you plan on emailing him money?
#1027 [08:35] <Coll> cant you just buy it from the website
#1028 [08:36] <Coll> like intended
#1029 [08:36] <Coll> or am I missing something?
#1030 [08:36] <firelord1789> .....?
#1031 [08:36] <Kxania> You would still need to use some form of payment transfer.
#1032 [08:36] <Kxania> So you might as well buy it from the site.
#1033 [08:36] <firelord1789> MAIL. not Email.
#1034 [08:36] * Wug shifts oddly, momentarily distorting the light
#1034 [08:36] <Wug> hello
#1035 [08:37] <Coll> mail?
#1036 [08:37] <Coll> hahahaha
#1037 [08:37] <firelord1789> I do not have any method of online transfer, so...
#1038 [08:37] <Coll> who does payment by mail
#1039 [08:37] <Coll> dude
#1040 [08:37] <firelord1789> I DO.
#1041 [08:37] <Coll> just go to the store
#1042 [08:37] <Coll> and buy a giftcard
#1043 [08:37] <Coll> that can be used online
#1044 [08:37] <firelord1789> Sorry, my stores don't sell gift cards.
#1045 [08:37] <Coll> greendot
#1046 [08:37] <Coll> wut
#1047 [08:37] <Kxania> You can transfer money via mastercard, paypal, etc, etc... xD
#1048 [08:37] <Coll> if you cant do this
#1049 [08:37] <Coll> then get someone to buy it for you
#1050 [08:37] <Wug> they're supposedly working on adding more payment methods
#1051 [08:38] <firelord1789> Okaayy...\
#1052 [08:38] <firelord1789> could you list any.
#1053 [08:38] <Wug> just pay a relative
#1054 [08:38] <Coll> yeah seriously
#1055 [08:38] <Coll> you have the money
#1056 [08:38] <Coll> just give it to them
#1057 [08:38] <Coll> and I am sure they will have no problem helping you out
#1058 [08:38] <firelord1789> i wish i had one that could..
#1059 [08:38] <Coll> you are telling me
#1060 [08:38] <firelord1789> wait, does he have a bank account that i could transfer to?
#1061 [08:38] <Coll> none of your relatives
#1062 [08:38] <Wug> do you live under a rock
#1063 [08:38] <Coll> has pay pal a bank account
#1064 [08:39] <Coll> a credit card
#1065 [08:39] <firelord1789> is it possible to transfer money via bank?
#1066 [08:39] <Coll> yeah
#1067 [08:39] <Coll> if you use paypal
#1068 [08:39] <Kxania> WTH, seriously?
#1069 [08:39] <firelord1789> Can i pay a bank real cash and transfer it to my paypal account?
#1070 [08:39] <Kxania> I'm sorry but this is hilarious xD
#1071 [08:39] <Wug> yes
#1072 [08:40] <firelord1789> hmm..
#1073 [08:40] <Wug> thats what banks do
#1074 [08:40] <firelord1789> okay i'll check... thanks..
#1075 [08:40] <firelord1789> sorry..
#1076 [08:40] <Wug> np
#1077 [08:40] <Wug> but seriously
#1078 [08:40] <Wug> paypal isnt that evil
#1079 [08:40] <firelord1789> i didnt know banks could transfer money to paypal accounts.
#1080 [08:40] <Wug> millions of people use it
#1081 [08:40] <Wug> convince your family members to get one
#1082 [08:40] <firelord1789> i HAVE a paypal account
#1083 [08:41] <firelord1789> its just that i didnt know any method of transferring money INTO it.
#1084 [08:41] <firelord1789> i'll try going to a bank and doing that.
#1085 [08:41] <Coll> well
#1086 [08:41] <Coll> if you have a bank account
#1087 [08:41] <Coll> you can add it to paypal
#1088 [08:41] <firelord1789> Damn, i don't have a bank account.
#1089 [08:42] <Coll> well then you can have a realtive who has a bank account make a paypal and connect them
#1090 [08:42] <firelord1789> okay.
#1091 [08:42] <firelord1789> well thanks....
#1092 [08:50] <bokaholic> Bank accounts are freeee.
#1093 [08:50] <bokaholic> Just go set one up.
#1094 [08:54] * oldtopman [oldtopman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1095 [08:55] * minecrafter [minecrafter@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1096 [08:56] <minecrafter> anyone here?
#1097 [08:57] <oldtopman> nope.
#1098 [08:58] <minecrafter> ...
#1099 [08:58] * Wug hides
#1099 [08:58] <Wug> if youd like to make a call
#1100 [08:58] <Wug> please hang up and try again
#1101 [08:59] <minecrafter> I'm guessing none of you could help me
#1102 [08:59] <oldtopman> ??> minecrafter ask
#1103 [08:59] <VoxelHead> minecrafter: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1104 [08:59] <VoxelHead> minecrafter: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1105 [08:59] <Morrolan> Oldtopman: Wrong answer. Should have said: Yes, you're right, none can help you, sorry.
#1106 [09:00] <oldtopman> Morrolan: I'll have to use that one next time :P
#1107 [09:00] <Morrolan> anyway minecrafter, what do you need?
#1108 [09:00] <Morrolan> Oldtopman: ^^
#1109 [09:00] <minecrafter> @Oldtopman ...
#1110 [09:00] <minecrafter> well, I haven't recieved the registration e-mail yet
#1111 [09:00] <Morrolan> After creating an account on minecraft.net?
#1112 [09:00] <Morrolan> Or after buying the game?
#1113 [09:01] <minecrafter> no, for the irc channel
#1114 [09:01] <Morrolan> Oh.
#1115 [09:01] <Morrolan> When did you register your nick?
#1116 [09:01] <oldtopman> minecrafter: Try #help or #lobby for help with the IRC network
#1117 [09:01] <Morrolan> Or rather, did you already try registering it again?
#1118 [09:02] <Morrolan> registering does NOT look like a valid word .:/
#1119 [09:02] <minecrafter> haven't tried re-registering it
#1120 [09:02] <minecrafter> and it was 15 minutes ago
#1121 [09:02] <Morrolan> Oh, don't know how long it takes normally, but it might be that they're overloaded at the moment.
#1122 [09:03] <Morrolan> If you don't get in in another 10 minutes you could try re-registering it, or just ask in #help.
#1123 [09:06] <Morrolan> That quit message is rather... strange.
#1124 [09:07] <N> Oh no
#1125 [09:08] <N> He modified the quote
#1126 [09:08] <N> What a failer
#1127 [09:08] * Juze [Juze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1128 [09:15] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1129 [09:20] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1130 [09:23] * noobidoo [noobidoo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1131 [09:25] <oldtopman> N: What was the original quote?
#1132 [09:37] * ViruS [ViruS@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1133 [09:41] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1134 [09:45] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1135 [09:46] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1136 [09:46] <_LoneCrow> I'
#1137 [09:47] <_LoneCrow> I'm running mcmyadmin on windoze right now which comes with bukkit etc
#1138 [09:47] <_LoneCrow> I'm thinking of moving it over to a linux machine.. it should work right? if I moved the world over .. or is there a difference
#1139 [09:48] * koulchilebaiz [koulchilebaiz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1140 [09:51] <Wug> ask #bukkit
#1141 [09:51] <Wug> but yes it should work
#1142 [09:52] <_LoneCrow> I mean I'd do a new install and everything for linux, but if I move the actual world over and reinstall the plugins the actual world data should be the same.. might have to redo some perms and stuff
#1143 [09:53] <_LoneCrow> Cool now I just need to know what files are actually the world data that needs to be moved hehe
#1144 [09:53] <Wug> mmhm
#1145 [09:55] * Count [Count@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1146 [09:57] * h [h@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1147 [09:58] * h [h@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1148 [09:58] * Kimax [Kimax@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1149 [10:01] * noobidoo [noobidoo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1150 [10:01] <Morrolan> LoneCrow: There's a world folder in the server folder.
#1151 [10:01] <Morrolan> Might want to try your luck with that one. :p
#1152 [10:15] * SlashLife^m [SlashLife^m@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1153 [10:18] * Zw [Zw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1154 [10:20] * vv [vv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1155 [10:23] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1156 [10:24] * Vhozard [Vhozard@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1157 [10:24] <Vhozard> !check
#1158 [10:25] <Vhozard> !check
#1159 [10:36] * dizzyone [dizzyone@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1160 [10:38] * DjM1zw1z [DjM1zw1z@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1161 [10:38] <DjM1zw1z> Is Minecraft.net down?#
#1162 [10:38] <g> !isdown minecraft.net
#1163 [10:38] <GreyBot> g: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1164 [10:38] <DjM1zw1z> Well how do i fix it
#1165 [10:38] <g> Fix what?
#1166 [10:39] <DjM1zw1z> Is it up or down, 2 crossed answers confuzzled me
#1167 [10:42] <Vhozard> its up
#1168 [10:42] <Vhozard> http://minecraft.net is up.
#1169 [10:42] <Vhozard> ...
#1170 [11:02] * dizzyone [dizzyone@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1171 [11:02] * MuumiJumala [MuumiJumala@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1172 [11:02] * Oerg866 [Oerg866@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1173 [11:05] * FLAcK_ [FLAcK_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1174 [11:08] * kelm [kelm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1175 [11:11] * ChrisP_ [ChrisP_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1176 [11:12] * noobidoo [noobidoo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1177 [11:13] * Henry [Henry@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1178 [11:19] * tallest_red [tallest_red@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1179 [11:23] * bobd0le [bobd0le@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1180 [11:24] <bobd0le> So i havent played minecraft in awhile, and my dirt looks wierd from a side angle, like covered in green - Is my texture pack out of date due to the updates or something else?
#1181 [11:28] <_LoneCrow> Actually mcmyadmin has a backup/restore feature so i decided to use that :)
#1182 [11:28] <bobd0le> no-one? :(
#1183 [11:29] <[z]> bobd0le: Yes, you'll need an updated texture pack for 1.5
#1184 [11:29] <_LoneCrow> Hey.. one thing I'm kinda wondering about.. I mean this game rocks totally is the bomb.. but after a while of building stuff you get bored. You sort of wish there were more objects in game you could build or craft. There is hardly anything .. a bookshelf, a bed, etc. There needs to be way more objects. Is that something that is on their roadmap?
#1185 [11:30] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1186 [11:31] * Am0KK [Am0KK@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1187 [11:31] <Am0KK> hello
#1188 [11:31] <bobd0le> blech, damn
#1189 [11:31] <bobd0le> alright thanks [z]
#1190 [11:31] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1191 [11:31] <Am0KK> someone know if its possible to disable weather on multiplayer?
#1192 [11:31] <_LoneCrow> they need to get nether working in multiplayer too
#1193 [11:32] * ionface [ionface@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1194 [11:33] * ionface [ionface@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1195 [11:34] <_LoneCrow> Theres plugins that allow you to control the weather
#1196 [11:34] <Am0KK> you know a link or a name for the plugin?
#1197 [11:34] <sammaelt> so much to do so less time ("wisthles")
#1198 [11:35] <bokaholic> Hmm.. I need to find an iphone dev help channel. x)
#1199 [11:35] * Sinnersaix [Sinnersaix@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1200 [11:35] * bokaholic ponders aloud.
#1200 [11:37] <Morrolan> bokaholic: Think there's one on freenode, not sure though.
#1201 [11:40] * TheReddeH [TheReddeH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1202 [11:44] * cbreaker [cbreaker@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1203 [11:45] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1204 [11:48] <_LoneCrow> go to bukkit.org and look there
#1205 [11:50] <bobd0le> best way to get rid of a pool of water? its like 4x4 wide and about 10 deep
#1206 [11:50] <bobd0le> ....and i have 20 of them to fill in
#1207 [11:50] <bobd0le> or rather dig out
#1208 [11:51] <GLaDOS> bobd0le: dirt
#1209 [11:51] <bobd0le> that means a lot of swimming up and down
#1210 [11:51] <bobd0le> im using sand atm
#1211 [11:51] <GLaDOS> start at the top
#1212 [11:51] <GLaDOS> do the top layer
#1213 [11:51] <GLaDOS> then erase the dirt
#1214 [11:51] <GLaDOS> continue downwards
#1215 [11:52] <g> sand is easier if you have a roof
#1216 [11:52] <bobd0le> ehh
#1217 [11:53] <bobd0le> basically what im trying to do is create a chasm / valley
#1218 [11:53] <bobd0le> its currently 32 wide
#1219 [11:53] <bobd0le> and 283 long
#1220 [11:53] <g> The best way
#1221 [11:53] <g> is to enlist the help of friends
#1222 [11:53] <g> :P
#1223 [11:53] <Morrolan> Best way is to use WorldEdit :D
#1224 [11:53] <bobd0le> and i want to scale it down in a step kind of thing, where it starts off on the same level both sides and they progress down one layer step at a time
#1225 [11:54] <bobd0le> and ja, but its a surprise, im building my own little world off away from them :p
#1226 [11:54] <g> :P
#1227 [11:57] <g> Let's see.. Home alone, 5.1 surround sound, down-facing subwoofer, heavy bass, volume up full. Jelly?
#1228 [11:57] <g> xD
#1229 [11:59] <Morrolan> Neighbours?
#1230 [12:00] <g> Detatched house
#1231 [12:00] <g> :P
#1232 [12:00] <bobd0le> (he murdered them)
#1233 [12:00] <g> Next house is >80m away
#1234 [12:01] <Morrolan> Oh.
#1235 [12:01] * Marco [Marco@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1236 [12:01] <bobd0le> [16:57] <g> Let's see.. Home alone, 5.1 surround sound, down-facing subwoofer, heavy bass, volume up full. Jelly?
#1237 [12:01] <bobd0le> thats a very nice everything you have there
#1238 [12:02] <Marco> hi
#1239 [12:02] <bobd0le> it'd be a shame if something were to happen to it
#1240 [12:02] <Morrolan> Hey Marco
#1241 [12:02] <g> :P
#1242 [12:02] <g> hi, Marco
#1243 [12:02] <g> bobd0le: sss?
#1244 [12:02] <bobd0le> sss indeed
#1245 [12:02] <g> :P
#1246 [12:03] * Kealper eats leftover chinese food from dinner last night
#1246 [12:03] <Morrolan> Ugh.
#1247 [12:03] <g> Reloading the bot
#1248 [12:03] * g apologises
#1248 [12:03] <Morrolan> Heads down everyone.
#1249 [12:03] <g> ~quit
#1250 [12:03] <Kealper> lol @ quit message
#1251 [12:03] * progme [progme@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1252 [12:04] * Daxar [Daxar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1253 [12:04] <g> It has a file of random quit lines :P
#1254 [12:04] <Morrolan> g: How about a launch parameter which makes it not post the feeds when set?
#1255 [12:04] * McPlusPlus [McPlusPlus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1256 [12:04] <g> I'm refactoring
#1257 [12:04] * AlphaComputing [AlphaComputing@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1258 [12:04] <g> so I'm not improving this version of the bot
#1259 [12:04] <Morrolan> ok.
#1260 [12:05] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [13]: Added antispam (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/N5rg4V
#1261 [12:05] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] The maps! (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/HE4v28
#1262 [12:05] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Achtung! Uwaga! Attention! (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/Xxfrwj
#1263 [12:05] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/WGSWQF
#1264 [12:05] <g> Okay, that's all
#1265 [12:05] <g> :P
#1266 [12:05] <g> Carry on
#1267 [12:05] <Kealper> i want mc 1.6 :<
#1268 [12:05] <g> same lol
#1269 [12:05] <Marco> question: are there seasons in minecraft?
#1270 [12:05] <g> Let's see him fix the bugs :P
#1271 [12:06] <g> no, Marco
#1272 [12:06] <Marco> then i've got a big problem..a few days ago my computer crashed when the server software was running..the result was, that the grass got pale and it started snowing...even over the beach...it was such a nice summer landscape before :(
#1273 [12:06] <Kealper> massive bugfix release = /me dies from the thought
#1274 [12:06] <Marco> can i fix that?
#1275 [12:06] <Kealper> snowing on a beach?
#1276 [12:06] <Kealper> that....is odd lol
#1277 [12:06] <g> lol
#1278 [12:07] <Morrolan> That is rather strange.
#1279 [12:07] <Kealper> was the area a tundra-like biome?
#1280 [12:07] * SlashLife^m [SlashLife^m@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1281 [12:07] <Marco> with my texture pack the trees look like it was autumn
#1282 [12:07] <Kealper> or was it a warm summer place?
#1283 [12:07] <Marco> summer
#1284 [12:07] <Marco> green grass, green trees
#1285 [12:07] <Kealper> that's odd indeed
#1286 [12:07] <Morrolan> Uh, only thing which could cause this were if the seed changed. :/
#1287 [12:07] <Kealper> sounds like your map got confused
#1288 [12:07] <Kealper> yeah, what Morrolan said
#1289 [12:08] <Morrolan> Could you explore a bit, to see how new generated terrain looks like?
#1290 [12:08] <Morrolan> If you get nasty cliffs and jagged borders then it's the seed.
#1291 [12:08] <Marco> ok, i'll have a look
#1292 [12:10] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [14]: Final placeholder, for URL tools. Time to start making it do stuff! :D (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/2FWuGf
#1293 [12:10] <xolotl> Marco: How old was the map?
#1294 [12:11] <xolotl> Kealper: Yeah, I have high hopes for 1.6
#1295 [12:11] <TheReddeH> how do i craft an umbrella
#1296 [12:11] <xolotl> Well, hopes, anyway.
#1297 [12:11] <Marco> i think a weeg
#1298 [12:11] <Marco> *week
#1299 [12:11] <Marco> 8 days
#1300 [12:11] <g> TheReddeH: You don't.
#1301 [12:12] <TheReddeH> what?!
#1302 [12:12] <xolotl> Marco: Huh, odd. I guess just try what Morrolan suggested; see if there are huge cliff faces or whatever
#1303 [12:12] <TheReddeH> thats a huuuge flaw
#1304 [12:12] <xolotl> TheReddeH: Is it?
#1305 [12:12] <g> Hydrophobia much? :P
#1306 [12:12] <Morrolan> xolotl: I expect a lot of "y u no mak knew updates" from the community though. :/
#1307 [12:12] <TheReddeH> no1 will play anymore if theres no umbrellas :(
#1308 [12:12] <g> pssh
#1309 [12:12] <xolotl> TheReddeH: I think you'll find that's not true. :)
#1310 [12:12] <Kealper> lol
#1311 [12:12] <g> they didn't have umbrellas in medieval times
#1312 [12:12] <g> :P
#1313 [12:13] <TheReddeH> can u at least craft flu-vaccins then?
#1314 [12:13] <xolotl> g: To be fair, they also didn't have redstone in medieval times. :)
#1315 [12:13] * Kealper likes being out in the rain
#1315 [12:13] <Marco> okay, i explored a bit
#1316 [12:13] <Marco> there's like a wall in front of me
#1317 [12:13] <xolotl> Marco: Ah, k. Sounds like the map seed got changed then
#1318 [12:13] <Morrolan> Yup, then the seed changed.
#1319 [12:13] <Marco> like a half mountain
#1320 [12:13] <g> xolotl: No, but they had gunpowder :P
#1321 [12:13] <g> that can be used to power things too
#1322 [12:13] <Morrolan> g: Which could transmit electricity? :D
#1323 [12:13] <Kealper> "power" lol
#1324 [12:13] <Marco> is it possible to fix that?
#1325 [12:13] <g> lol
#1326 [12:13] <Morrolan> Marco: Only if you know what the old seed was. :/
#1327 [12:14] <xolotl> Marco: Not unless you happen to have an old backup of your level.dat, with the old seed
#1328 [12:14] * Kealper goes afk for a bit
#1328 [12:14] <g> Marco: Yes, actually. TNT.
#1329 [12:14] <g> :P
#1330 [12:14] <Morrolan> Marco: Oh, wait a second.
#1331 [12:14] <Morrolan> Check wheter there's a level.dat_old in the saves folder.
#1332 [12:14] <Marco> i have a backup of every day before
#1333 [12:14] <Morrolan> Oh, then just restore that I'd say.
#1334 [12:14] <Marco> but there are lots of buildings missing
#1335 [12:14] <xolotl> Marco: K, try copying the level.dat over, then.
#1336 [12:15] <Morrolan> Or yea, do as xolotl said.
#1337 [12:15] <xolotl> Marco: If you just restore level.dat you should be fine
#1338 [12:15] <Marco> ok
#1339 [12:15] * g will brb
#1339 [12:15] <Morrolan> You'll loose your inventory progress, but the rest should be fine.
#1340 [12:15] <xolotl> Marco: You'll probably want to use MCEdit to remove those cliff-face type things along the edges though
#1341 [12:15] <xolotl> (or otherwise deal with the stuff that got generated on the "new" seed)
#1342 [12:16] * g is back
#1342 [12:17] <Marco> i'm not really able to handle mcedit ^^
#1343 [12:17] * Zoroark eats g
#1343 [12:18] <Marco> is it possible to complete the mountain or can i just delete blocks?
#1344 [12:18] <xolotl> Marco: You'll want to just delete the chunks
#1345 [12:18] <xolotl> Marco: Once terrain has been generated, it won't re-generate unless you remove the chunks
#1346 [12:18] <g> Zoroark: You know I'm made of solid titanium
#1347 [12:18] <g> right?
#1348 [12:18] <xolotl> Marco: So you'd have this area on the map which doesn't "fit" with the rest of the seed
#1349 [12:19] <g> :P
#1350 [12:19] <xolotl> Marco: Or you could just leave it and deal with it, of course; presumably you only had that one area that you explored up to
#1351 [12:19] <Marco> oh great, i can delete this chunk with mcedit?
#1352 [12:20] <xolotl> Marco: ... yes, which is why I suggested you use MCEdit to do so.
#1353 [12:20] <Marco> yep, just wanted to make sure ;)
#1354 [12:20] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [15]: Fixed a failed namespace. (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/YQSs9S
#1355 [12:20] <Marco> then i'll have to get used to mcedit
#1356 [12:20] <Marco> thanks for your help, there's no more snow :D
#1357 [12:21] * Jmancino2 [Jmancino2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1358 [12:22] <xolotl> Marco: np, good luck!
#1359 [12:22] * Szernex [Szernex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1360 [12:25] * The_Mec [The_Mec@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1361 [12:26] <Marco> xolotl: when i selected the chunks - how can i delete them?
#1362 [12:26] <TheReddeH> do any of you know a mod that makes tools indestructable in single player?
#1363 [12:26] <The_Mec> hello, i'm trying to start a minecraft server on centos 5. but i can't figure out how to start it. anybody ever use centos? or know commands to start the server?
#1364 [12:26] <g> invedit their damage to -999999
#1365 [12:26] <g> The_Mec: java -server -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1366 [12:26] <The_Mec> ty much
#1367 [12:27] <xolotl> Marco: I think just <del> or <backspace>
#1368 [12:27] <xolotl> Marco: One of the buttons at the bottom will automatically expand the selection to include the whole chunks in question, btw
#1369 [12:27] <xolotl> I forget which one, but it should give you a description when you mouseover
#1370 [12:30] * BarryCarlyon [BarryCarlyon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1371 [12:30] * MEC [MEC@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1372 [12:31] <VoxelHead> Captain's log, Stardate 46377: we have arrived without incident at #minecrafthelp to meet Ambassador Shadow386. Meanwhile the replicators are only making decaff =(
#1373 [12:31] <Morrolan> MCEdit has a chunk managment tool with which you can, as xolotl said, expand the selection to the whole chunk and delete them afterwards.
#1374 [12:32] <Morrolan> decaff?
#1375 [12:33] <Morrolan> Coffee without caffeine?
#1376 [12:36] * nip [nip@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1377 [12:41] * noobidoo [noobidoo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1378 [12:43] * Pulec [Pulec@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1379 [12:44] * JBeamish90 [JBeamish90@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1380 [12:45] <JBeamish90> Hi, i was wondering if any of you could give me a hand with getting minecraft running on my laptop
#1381 [12:45] <TheReddeH> how do i delete my minecraft statistics
#1382 [12:45] <TheReddeH> or reset
#1383 [12:46] <g> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmV8ltrJnAE&feature=related :D
#1384 [12:46] <McPlusPlus> "YouTube - Portal 2 - Yellow 'Space' Core" at www.youtube.com
#1385 [12:46] <g> ~stfu
#1386 [12:47] <JBeamish90> Could someone have a look at my thread and tell me what you think could be wrong please? The link is http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=318094
#1387 [12:54] * MLoeven [MLoeven@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1388 [12:55] <Morrolan> TheReddeH: In the minecraft folder is a "stats" folder. Delete this and you should be fine.
#1389 [12:55] * koulchilebaiz [koulchilebaiz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1390 [13:01] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1391 [13:04] <bobd0le> what the
#1392 [13:04] <bobd0le> suddenly rain
#1393 [13:10] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1394 [13:18] * pico [pico@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1395 [13:18] * genshou [genshou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1396 [13:21] * Smil3 [Smil3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1397 [13:21] <Smil3> Hello,
#1398 [13:23] * sardonyx [sardonyx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1399 [13:24] <Morrolan> hey Smil3
#1400 [13:27] <Smil3> O hi
#1401 [13:27] <Smil3> you still there?
#1402 [13:27] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1403 [13:27] <Morrolan> Yep
#1404 [13:27] <Smil3> i am about to buy Minecraft, to play with a freind of mine
#1405 [13:28] <Smil3> and i would like to know if it is 100% that we can play together
#1406 [13:28] <Smil3> like mulitplayer (just up 2
#1407 [13:28] <Morrolan> That sholdn't be a problem. The one hosting the server will have to forward the necessary ports (or use Hamachi), but apart from that it should work.
#1408 [13:29] <gPortal2002> Morrolan: You are recommended hamachi why?
#1409 [13:29] <gPortal2002> :P
#1410 [13:29] <Morrolan> If it doesn't you can always drop in here and ask for help. :)
#1411 [13:29] <Morrolan> g: I don't. ;)
#1412 [13:29] <VoxelHead> we have no time for these games*$£*£$*%percent%percent!^#@*$
#1413 [13:29] <g> Then don't mention it :P
#1414 [13:29] <g> vox, shut up
#1415 [13:29] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#1415 [13:29] <Morrolan> g: It's an alternative if you can't forward the ports.
#1416 [13:30] <Morrolan> Or if you're just too lazy. :D
#1417 [13:30] <g> Not if you like to be online at the same time it isn't :P
#1418 [13:30] <Smil3> or if u are dumb ...
#1419 [13:30] <Smil3> like me
#1420 [13:30] * Mjiig [Mjiig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1421 [13:30] <Morrolan> Oh, it's not THAT complicated. ;)
#1422 [13:30] <Smil3> i need like a voice and video explaination to understand anything to do with ports
#1423 [13:30] * Tobbi [Tobbi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1424 [13:31] <Tobbi> hi
#1425 [13:31] <Smil3> to complex for me
#1426 [13:31] <Morrolan> Just get your friend to host, then he'll have to do this. :D
#1427 [13:31] <Morrolan> Hey Tobbi
#1428 [13:32] <Smil3> Morrolan, he doesnt even know what portwarding is ... so i guess im the smarter out of me freinds
#1429 [13:32] <Morrolan> Oh.
#1430 [13:32] <Morrolan> Anyway, it's just putting in two numbers in the page of your router.
#1431 [13:32] <Tobbi> i have a short question: i updated my mc from 1.4 to 1.5, but game crashes everytime when majong appears ... :(
#1432 [13:32] <Morrolan> Tobbi: Did you install any mods?
#1433 [13:33] <Tobbi> no
#1434 [13:33] <Morrolan> Hmm, let's try to reinstall Minecraft, helps most of the time.
#1435 [13:33] <Morrolan> Which OS are you on?
#1436 [13:33] <Tobbi> have done this 7 times...
#1437 [13:33] <Tobbi> win 7
#1438 [13:33] <Tobbi> 64 bit
#1439 [13:33] <Morrolan> Oh. So you deleted the bin folder?
#1440 [13:33] <Tobbi> yes
#1441 [13:33] <Tobbi> and 2 times complete ordner
#1442 [13:33] <Morrolan> Oh.
#1443 [13:33] <Tobbi> folder*
#1444 [13:33] <Tobbi> ^^
#1445 [13:33] * Mjiig [Mjiig@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1446 [13:33] <Morrolan> That's... inconvenient. :D
#1447 [13:34] <Morrolan> And this happens only since 1.5?
#1448 [13:34] <Tobbi> yes
#1449 [13:34] <Tobbi> before no crashs no blackscreens
#1450 [13:34] <Tobbi> nothing
#1451 [13:34] <Morrolan> Try this tool to downgrade to 1.4, and see if it works again: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#1452 [13:34] <Tobbi> with and without mods
#1453 [13:35] <Tobbi> i have a backup so i dont need
#1454 [13:35] <Morrolan> Ah, and it works with 1.4? That's bad. :/
#1455 [13:35] <Tobbi> yes
#1456 [13:35] <Tobbi> everything works
#1457 [13:35] <Morrolan> Never seen anyone whose 1.5 crashed just like this.
#1458 [13:36] <Tobbi> im unique :D yeah
#1459 [13:36] <Smil3> Morrolan, Ports to forward, for hamatchi and Minecraft
#1460 [13:36] <Smil3> 25565?
#1461 [13:36] <Morrolan> For hamachi none, for Minecraft 25565, yes
#1462 [13:36] <Morrolan> TCP
#1463 [13:38] <Smil3> um hit a snag, i need to put in "Private IP
#1464 [13:38] <Smil3> what is that?
#1465 [13:38] <Morrolan> Most likely the internal IP of the computer which is hosting the server.
#1466 [13:38] <Morrolan> If it's the only IP field you need to fill in.
#1467 [13:38] <Smil3> so if i google "my ip" then it should be that.
#1468 [13:38] <Morrolan> Tobbi: I can only advise you to stay here for a bit, might be that someone here has an idea later on.
#1469 [13:38] <Morrolan> Smil3: Nope
#1470 [13:38] <Morrolan> Do you know how to open a command prompt?
#1471 [13:38] <Smil3> :(
#1472 [13:39] <Smil3> sure
#1473 [13:39] <Morrolan> Ok, open one and type in "ipconfig"
#1474 [13:39] <Morrolan> The number listed under ipv4 address is your internal ip.
#1475 [13:39] <Smil3> um
#1476 [13:39] <Smil3> i got upv6
#1477 [13:39] <Smil3> ooo
#1478 [13:39] <Smil3> ops
#1479 [13:39] <Morrolan> Oh.
#1480 [13:39] <Smil3> i need it
#1481 [13:39] <Smil3> i see it
#1482 [13:39] <Smil3> thanks
#1483 [13:40] <Smil3> see it*
#1484 [13:40] <Morrolan> Ah, ok.
#1485 [13:40] <Morrolan> Cause Java doesn't work well with ipv6
#1486 [13:40] <Morrolan> It should be something like 192.168... or 10....
#1487 [13:40] * kelm [kelm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1488 [13:41] <Smil3> PORT FORWARDED, god i feel pc smarter ...
#1489 [13:41] <Morrolan> Ok. Don't forget that your friend has to connecti with your EXTERNAL ip. (the one you get from googling "what is my ip")
#1490 [13:41] <Morrolan> connect*
#1491 [13:41] <Smil3> and if i portwarded the game, it should now work 100%
#1492 [13:42] <Morrolan> Yep.
#1493 [13:42] <Smil3> if it doesnt?
#1494 [13:42] <Morrolan> Unless something prevents it, but in this case you know where to find us. :)
#1495 [13:42] <Smil3> ok
#1496 [13:42] <Morrolan> Wait a second.
#1497 [13:42] <Morrolan> http://canyouseeme.org/
#1498 [13:42] <Morrolan> Use that site to check wheter you've done it correctly.
#1499 [13:43] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1500 [13:43] <Smil3> Error: I could not see your service on ********** on port (25565) Reason: Connection refused
#1501 [13:43] <Morrolan> Hmm. :/
#1502 [13:43] <NotiCon> Smil3: try !check
#1503 [13:43] <Morrolan> Wait, that's normal. XD
#1504 [13:43] <Morrolan> Since the server isn't running at the moment.
#1505 [13:43] <Morrolan> Stupid me.
#1506 [13:44] <Smil3> lol
#1507 [13:44] <Smil3> ...
#1508 [13:44] <Tobbi> ah ok on my other pc mc 1.5 works -.-
#1509 [13:44] <Morrolan> Tobbi: Uh, strange.
#1510 [13:44] <Smil3> !check
#1511 [13:44] <Morrolan> Might be some sort of hardware incompability. :/
#1512 [13:44] <Morrolan> smil3: You should be able to download the server software without paying, so you can make sure that it works.
#1513 [13:44] <Morrolan> !server
#1514 [13:44] <Smil3> NotiCon i says it looks grim
#1515 [13:45] <Tobbi> my laptop is half a year old and was very expensive
#1516 [13:45] <Smil3> how do i make sure it works?
#1517 [13:45] <Morrolan> Smil3: Yea, download the server software from the link above, run it and try the !check again.
#1518 [13:45] <Morrolan> Tobbi: :/
#1519 [13:46] <Smil3> !check
#1520 [13:46] <Morrolan> ??< java/ipv6
#1521 [13:46] <Smil3> :( it looks grim for my ip
#1522 [13:46] <Morrolan> Smil3: You are running the server atm?
#1523 [13:47] <Smil3> yip its got this Memory use : 56mb (44%free)
#1524 [13:47] <Tobbi> java is on the latest (dont know the word) ipv6 i dont know what that is :D
#1525 [13:47] <Smil3> Threads 0 + 0
#1526 [13:47] <Morrolan> Tobbi: Nothing for you, was just checking the FAQ entry, sorry.
#1527 [13:47] <Morrolan> Tobbi: Nothing for you, was just checking the FAQ entry, sorry.[19:44] <+Morrolan> Tobbi: :/
#1528 [13:47] <Morrolan> [19:45] <Smil3> !check
#1529 [13:47] <Morrolan> [19:45] <+Morrolan> ??< java/ipv6
#1530 [13:47] <Morrolan> [19:45] -VoxelHead- java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#1531 [13:47] <Morrolan> [19:45] <@AuBot> Sorry Smil3, but things look grim for 91.100.47.163, are you sure you typed it right?
#1532 [13:47] <Morrolan> [19:45] -VoxelHead- java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#1533 [13:47] <Morrolan> [19:45] <Smil3> :( it looks grim for my ip
#1534 [13:47] <Morrolan> [19:45] <+Morrolan> Smil3: You are running the server atm?
#1535 [13:47] <Morrolan> Geez
#1536 [13:47] <Morrolan> Geez
#1537 [13:47] <Morrolan> Sorry for the spam
#1538 [13:47] <Morrolan> ctrl-v for the loose. ^^
#1539 [13:47] <Smil3> Nice
#1540 [13:48] <Morrolan> Smil3: Anyway, back to topic. :D
#1541 [13:48] <Morrolan> Could you make a screenshot of your port forwarding page?
#1542 [13:49] <Tobbi> hmm
#1543 [13:49] <Smil3> in my network page?
#1544 [13:49] <Smil3> thinky
#1545 [13:49] <Morrolan> Yea, in your router page.
#1546 [13:50] <Smil3> anything i should hide?
#1547 [13:50] <Morrolan> Hmm, don't think so. SHouldn't be anything private in there.
#1548 [13:50] <Morrolan> Maybe your name or so, if you care.
#1549 [13:50] <Morrolan> (If it's listed somewhere)
#1550 [13:50] <Morrolan> ??< lostworld
#1551 [13:51] <g> Rule: "torrents/porn_proxy"
#1552 [13:51] <g> lol
#1553 [13:51] <Morrolan> Hehe. :D
#1554 [13:51] <Smil3> lol
#1555 [13:51] <Morrolan> ??< virus
#1556 [13:52] <Morrolan> Lost of FAQ entries I've never seen yet. ^^
#1557 [13:52] <g> Indeed
#1558 [13:52] <Morrolan> ??< linux/dontdothis
#1559 [13:52] <g> :P
#1560 [13:52] <Morrolan> Aha.
#1561 [13:52] <g> rm -rf /
#1562 [13:52] * AuBot kicked g from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please do not try tricking people with that.)
#1563 [13:52] * g [g@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1564 [13:52] <Morrolan> XD
#1565 [13:52] <g> lol
#1566 [13:52] * g slaps AuBot around a bit with a large trout.
#1566 [13:52] <NotiCon> good bot
#1567 [13:53] <g> rm -fr /
#1568 [13:53] * g wins
#1568 [13:54] <Morrolan> g: Actually the FAQ entry was only -VoxelHead- linux/dontdothis: :():{:&:};:
#1569 [13:54] <g> lol
#1570 [13:54] <g> forkbomb
#1571 [13:54] <Tobbi> ok reinstalled java and 1.5 works ...
#1572 [13:54] <Morrolan> Tobbi: Oh, nice.
#1573 [13:55] <Tobbi> now i search my old mods ^^
#1574 [13:55] <Tobbi> is ultimate fist mod now up to date?
#1575 [13:55] <Smil3> !check
#1576 [13:55] <Morrolan> No idea, never heard of it.
#1577 [13:56] <Smil3> COME ON!!!!
#1578 [13:56] <Tobbi> bot dont likes u D
#1579 [13:56] <Tobbi> :D
#1580 [13:56] <MLoeven> whats on that ip;
#1581 [13:56] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1582 [13:56] <g> It's his IP
#1583 [13:56] <g> derp
#1584 [13:56] <g> vox, shut up
#1585 [13:56] <VoxelHead> bah
#1586 [13:56] <Morrolan> MLoeven: There should be a server running there.
#1587 [13:57] <MLoeven> where can i go for a list of minecraft servers anywere
#1588 [13:57] <Morrolan> ?? smp/servers
#1589 [13:57] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1590 [13:57] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1591 [13:58] <MLoeven> i wonder if anyone has tested the limit for how large a mc map can get and still be supported on a single machine
#1592 [13:58] <NotiCon> define single machine
#1593 [13:58] <MLoeven> single fairly new machine with about 500 gig
#1594 [13:58] <MLoeven> 4 gig ram
#1595 [13:59] <MLoeven> core 2 duo
#1596 [13:59] <MLoeven> basic home pc
#1597 [13:59] <Morrolan> Depends on how many users are on it.
#1598 [13:59] <MLoeven> graphics cand doesent matter for a server
#1599 [13:59] <MLoeven> right
#1600 [13:59] <MLoeven> card
#1601 [14:00] <Morrolan> Yep.
#1602 [14:02] <Smil3> Morrolan was defeated ...
#1603 [14:02] <Morrolan> Yep. ^^
#1604 [14:02] <Smil3> :D
#1605 [14:03] <g> Lol, http://i.imgur.com/DhUrr.png
#1606 [14:06] <Smil3> is that her first and last name?
#1607 [14:11] <Morrolan> ??< map-surgery
#1608 [14:11] * qaoru [qaoru@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1609 [14:11] * xenoclaws [xenoclaws@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1610 [14:12] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1611 [14:13] <xenoclaws> would anyone care to test my server's spawn system? I need someone who hasn't logged in before: awesomecraft.hopto.org:25614
#1612 [14:18] * Mikau [Mikau@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1613 [14:20] <xolotl> xenoclaws: I'll hop on
#1614 [14:21] <Mikau> HELLO
#1615 [14:21] <bobd0le> is there some kind of tool
#1616 [14:21] <g> Heh, here's another one: http://i.imgur.com/7BQiP.png
#1617 [14:21] <Mikau> I yelled that.
#1618 [14:21] * VoxelHead is blown off feet by force of Mikau's statement
#1618 [14:21] <Mikau> See the caps?
#1619 [14:21] <g> vox, be quiet :P
#1620 [14:22] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#1620 [14:22] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#1621 [14:22] <Mikau> Kealper
#1622 [14:22] <bobd0le> is there some kind of tool, for block conceptualizing a picture, e.g. if i wanted to make this in minecraft - http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_af2tMq2AjDc/S3X1-CZEC5I/AAAAAAAACGY/da2byVG1kqc/s400/Hammer_sickle.png - it'd show how many squares needed
#1623 [14:22] <Mikau> Hey, Kealper.
#1624 [14:22] <Mikau> Kealper, come quick.
#1625 [14:22] * VoxelHead is back
#1625 [14:22] <Mikau> Kealper, it's life and death, hurry.
#1626 [14:22] <Mikau> Hurry, Kealper, there are children at stake.
#1627 [14:22] <dopeghoti> I.. might be able to help?
#1628 [14:23] <Mikau> Kealper, if you don't come, the children will drown and the puppies will be disowned by their parents.
#1629 [14:23] <Tobbi> k im out
#1630 [14:23] <Tobbi> bb and thx for help
#1631 [14:24] <Sami345> bobd0le, it depents how accuraly you want to make it?
#1632 [14:25] <Sami345> if you would want to make that image exactly pixel by pixel you would need 400 x 400 squares?
#1633 [14:26] <bobd0le> nah
#1634 [14:26] <bobd0le> just so it looks right
#1635 [14:26] <bobd0le> it'll have to be big for anything curvy though
#1636 [14:26] <Sami345> tool can't tell you when it "looks alright"
#1637 [14:26] * Brian1 [Brian1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1638 [14:26] <Sami345> it's hard for compute when something "looks alright"
#1639 [14:27] <bobd0le> sorry, my sarcasm meter just broke
#1640 [14:27] <Brian1> Hi, I don't really want to create a forum account, so can I post a solution here?
#1641 [14:28] <NotiCon> post a solution?
#1642 [14:28] <NotiCon> what you mean?
#1643 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> if the person whose question you are trying to answer is here, that would probably work, Brian1, otherwise you may be pissing into the wind.
#1644 [14:29] <Sami345> I mean if you want to create a tool that tells if something looks alright, you would have to find an algorithm telling when something looks alright
#1645 [14:29] <Brian1> I found a way to get it working on ubuntu with the official ATI drivers. Oh, so what would be a better place?
#1646 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: actually, for a general problem like that, I would love to add it to the FAQ database
#1647 [14:29] <NotiCon> which it?
#1648 [14:29] <NotiCon> minecraft?
#1649 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> fire away
#1650 [14:29] <Brian1> Ok
#1651 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> (presumably)
#1652 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> if it's long, please use pastebin (:
#1653 [14:30] <Brian1> I
#1654 [14:30] <Brian1> I'll just use pastebin then
#1655 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> very well.
#1656 [14:32] * Raptil [Raptil@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1657 [14:32] <Raptil> #help
#1658 [14:33] <NotiCon> you should remember /join infront of that
#1659 [14:33] <Brian1> Ok, here's a forum post that describes the issue (I didn't see a fix there)
#1660 [14:33] <Brian1> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=105618
#1661 [14:34] <Raptil> Anybody here who could help me with some launching bug?
#1662 [14:34] <Raptil> Or actually just a game bug in general
#1663 [14:35] <MLoeven> whats it doing
#1664 [14:35] <MLoeven> blackscreen ??
#1665 [14:35] <Raptil> Ya
#1666 [14:35] <Raptil> Blackscreen
#1667 [14:35] <MLoeven> what os
#1668 [14:35] * Lish [Lish@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1669 [14:35] <Raptil> os?
#1670 [14:35] <MLoeven> operating system
#1671 [14:35] <Raptil> Windows
#1672 [14:35] <Raptil> 7
#1673 [14:36] <MLoeven> what was the last mod you installed ??
#1674 [14:36] <MLoeven> usually removing the last mod you put in fixes thoser\
#1675 [14:36] <Raptil> I don't recall downloading any mods
#1676 [14:36] <MLoeven> do you use texture packs
#1677 [14:36] <Raptil> Nope, I haven't downloading anything else but the Minecraft.net installer
#1678 [14:37] <MLoeven> try running the exe as administrator ?
#1679 [14:37] <Raptil> Yeah, was the same thing
#1680 [14:38] <MLoeven> hmmm that covers most of the common issues
#1681 [14:38] <MLoeven> i dont really know what is wrong
#1682 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> ??> Raptil win/reinst
#1683 [14:39] <VoxelHead> Raptil: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1684 [14:39] <Raptil> When I start minecraft in the browser, it wants to update it, i started the updating but it's stuck at "done loading" at like 90% full bar
#1685 [14:39] <VoxelHead> Raptil: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1686 [14:39] <MLoeven> go to my computer and type %appdata%\.minecraft into the address bar and open the text file named options
#1687 [14:40] * Pappa [Pappa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1688 [14:40] <Pappa> hey
#1689 [14:40] <MLoeven> tell me what you see
#1690 [14:40] * CruelNoise_ [CruelNoise_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1691 [14:40] <Pappa> Can someone help me please?
#1692 [14:40] <Pappa> I can't install modloader
#1693 [14:41] <Pappa> I have followed every topic there is for the last three hours, and have been unsuccessful.
#1694 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: so.. the solution?
#1695 [14:45] <Brian1> I'm typing it up :)
#1696 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> Pappa mods
#1697 [14:45] <VoxelHead> Pappa: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1698 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: cool beans.
#1699 [14:45] <VoxelHead> Pappa: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1700 [14:45] <g> (If we get a decent one)
#1701 [14:46] <g> Notch on the mod API: Let's distribute Minecraft's source code!
#1702 [14:46] <g> :P
#1703 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> potentially
#1704 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> seeing is, as they say, believing.
#1705 [14:46] <g> It was on his twitter
#1706 [14:46] <g> "By the way, most other modding tools don't enclude the entire game's source code"
#1707 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> so was adventure mode, and gravity affecting floating blocks.
#1708 [14:47] <g> true tha
#1709 [14:47] <g> that*
#1710 [14:47] <NotiCon> include?
#1711 [14:47] <g> include
#1712 [14:47] <g> yes
#1713 [14:47] <g> typo :P
#1714 [14:47] * LargePrime [LargePrime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1715 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> we speak fluent typo here
#1716 [14:48] <g> Indeed :P
#1717 [14:48] <NotiCon> mm typos
#1718 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> most if us are running a typo daemon.
#1719 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> see?
#1720 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> s/if/of/
#1721 [14:48] <g> oic
#1722 [14:48] <g> :P
#1723 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> damnable selfspawning processes.
#1724 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> "/exec killall -9 typod"
#1725 [14:48] <g> xD
#1726 [14:48] <NotiCon> always respawns a new one when you fixed the last broken one?
#1727 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> yep.
#1728 [14:49] * MLoeven [MLoeven@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1729 [14:51] <g> brb
#1730 [14:51] * Vesko [Vesko@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1731 [14:51] * MLoeven [MLoeven@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1732 [14:53] <Raptil> My Minecraft won't work. When I try and run it in the browser, it's stuck downloading at 98% I've tried restarting it and so on. When I download the Minecraft.exe I open it and forces an update, when it's updated the Minecraft.exe window goes completely black.
#1733 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> Raptil win/reinst
#1734 [14:53] <VoxelHead> Raptil: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1735 [14:53] <VoxelHead> Raptil: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1736 [14:53] <Raptil> I did that
#1737 [14:53] <Raptil> Didn't work
#1738 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> Raptil win/profile
#1739 [14:54] <VoxelHead> Raptil: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1740 [14:54] <Raptil> Same thing happened when I ran Minecraft again
#1741 [14:54] <VoxelHead> Raptil: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1742 [14:54] <g> back
#1743 [14:56] * gunther [gunther@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1744 [14:56] * gunther [gunther@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1745 [14:57] * LargePrime [LargePrime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1746 [14:57] <Brian1> DopeGhoti: Ok, hope this is readable
#1747 [14:58] <Brian1> http://pastebin.com/EUgPvQ6r
#1748 [14:58] <_LoneCrow> Anyone use the precious stones plugin?
#1749 [14:59] <VoxelHead> Weees wants some fishises.
#1750 [14:59] <g> vox, stfu
#1751 [15:00] <Brian1> DopeGhoti: (I don't know if this is clear from what I wrote, but the "env" always goes in front)
#1752 [15:01] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1753 [15:02] <Brian1> Of course, the user will have to make the link reference the place were they put their actual jar file, which probably won't be in an applications folder in their home directory (like mine) :(
#1754 [15:02] <Wug> ok guys, its my turn
#1755 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: clear enough. Thanks.
#1756 [15:02] <Wug> I get rather large audio delay on linux.
#1757 [15:02] <NotiCon> Wug: no
#1758 [15:02] <Wug> any chance of a fix?
#1759 [15:02] <Wug> its maybe 1/2 second
#1760 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Wug: listen faster?
#1761 [15:02] <Wug> seriously guys
#1762 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> Wug: what sound system? ALSA? OSS? PulseAudio?
#1763 [15:03] <Wug> hang on
#1764 [15:03] <Wug> alsa
#1765 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: does the same solution work for just running `java -jar /path/to/the/minecraft.jar`? Or do you need to use the -cp switch?
#1766 [15:04] <Wug> ^ that works
#1767 [15:04] <Brian1> Let me see
#1768 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> Wug: FWIW, I have not seen this problem, and my system uses PulseAudio
#1769 [15:04] <Wug> you can also use the exe, which is just a wrapper for the jar
#1770 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Wug, Brian1 and I are talking about Linux here :p
#1771 [15:05] <Wug> it's only mildly annoying, i can probably just live with it
#1772 [15:05] <Wug> i know. you can use 'java -jar minecraft.exe'
#1773 [15:05] <Wug> java doesnt care
#1774 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Wug: have you tried temporarily switching to Pulse or OSS?
#1775 [15:05] <Wug> uuhh I have no idea how to do that
#1776 [15:06] <Wug> yay I made my first mod.
#1777 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> the 'sound delay' mod? (:
#1778 [15:06] <Brian1> DopeGhoti: Yes, it works
#1779 [15:06] <Brian1> env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -jar /home/username/Applications/Minecraft/minecraft.jar
#1780 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> Super
#1781 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> thanks
#1782 [15:06] <Wug> when you try to import and old world, it says "this may take a while D:" instead of "this may take a while :)"
#1783 [15:07] <Wug> very special I know
#1784 [15:07] <Smil3> Who here is good at portforwarding?
#1785 [15:07] <Wug> took all of my skills
#1786 [15:07] * Wug sees the p--- f-------- word and hides
#1786 [15:07] <Smil3> lol
#1787 [15:07] * NotiCon hides
#1787 [15:07] <Smil3> Noticon ...
#1788 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> ??+ gpu/amp/solution|We have a potential fix for Minecraft crashes with ATI/AMD CPUs and the closed-source driver. Try running Minecraft thusly:;;`env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -jar /path/to/the/minecraft.jar`
#1789 [15:07] <Wug> IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A CALL PLEASE HANG UP AND TRY AGAIN
#1790 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> dammit
#1791 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> ??+ gpu/amd/solution|We have a potential fix for Minecraft crashes with ATI/AMD CPUs and the closed-source driver. Try running Minecraft thusly:;;`env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -jar /path/to/the/minecraft.jar`
#1792 [15:08] <Smil3> was kinda directed towards u
#1793 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> ??- gpu/amp/solution
#1794 [15:08] <Wug> i can maybe help
#1795 [15:08] <g> Wug: Did you get your assembla set up yet?
#1796 [15:08] <Wug> whats the address
#1797 [15:08] <Wug> g no, ive been rather busy
#1798 [15:08] <g> No worries :P
#1799 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: thanks!
#1800 [15:08] <NotiCon> Smil3: i dont know about port forwarding stuff as every router have their own settings and i only have one router and i cant even get that one to forward ports
#1801 [15:08] <Wug> ill get it done sometime
#1802 [15:08] * Auv5 [Auv5@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1803 [15:08] <Wug> smil3, what's the server address
#1804 [15:08] <g> Query me your email and it'll add you as soon as you sign up
#1805 [15:09] <Smil3> k
#1806 [15:09] <Smil3> what u mean wug?
#1807 [15:09] <Brian1> DopeGhoti: Glad to help :)
#1808 [15:09] <Wug> whats the server's ip?
#1809 [15:09] <Smil3> my servers ip?
#1810 [15:09] <Wug> yes
#1811 [15:09] * HunterG [HunterG@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1812 [15:09] <Smil3> dont have one ...
#1813 [15:10] * g goes afk for a while
#1813 [15:11] <HunterG> Where can i goto for account help
#1814 [15:12] <Zw> http://www.minecraft.net/help.jsp
#1815 [15:12] <Wug> what sort of account help?
#1816 [15:13] <Brian1> Out of curiosity, should these parameters be used when you have lots of ram and want it to use it, or when you don't have much and don't want to go over? java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M
#1817 [15:13] <HunterG> I cant login it says im not using good info but its saved in my browser so i dont know how it got changed
#1818 [15:13] <Wug> smil3 - wait, you're trying to do port forwarding and you don't have a server?
#1819 [15:13] <Wug> then congratz, you're done!
#1820 [15:13] <HunterG> Brain when you dont want to go over
#1821 [15:13] <Smil3> Wug ...
#1822 [15:14] <bobd0le> damn
#1823 [15:14] <bobd0le> a 50x50 hammer and sickle requires 401 blocks
#1824 [15:14] <Smil3> doesnt matter
#1825 [15:14] <bobd0le> and i wanted it to be made out of red wool
#1826 [15:14] <VoxelHead> doesnt matter... datter
#1827 [15:14] <bobd0le> where the hell am i gonna get that much red wool
#1828 [15:14] <VoxelHead> whoooo I'm naked
#1829 [15:14] <Wug> http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#1830 [15:14] <Wug> hunterg
#1831 [15:14] <HunterG> Thanks i found it
#1832 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: For best results, you want -Xmx and -Xms to be the same, which will allocate all the ram that the program will ever use.
#1833 [15:15] <Wug> ^ I rather disagree
#1834 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> (in a server environment anyhow)
#1835 [15:15] <Wug> I'd rather not have it constantly eating 4GB if its not going to use it
#1836 [15:15] <Wug> maybe ina server env
#1837 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> ...why in the world would you allocate 4GiB?
#1838 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> especially to a *client*?
#1839 [15:15] <NotiCon> you do need 64bit java if you are going to allocate that much
#1840 [15:16] <Wug> I run a server
#1841 [15:16] <Wug> and I have 64 bit java
#1842 [15:16] <Wug> I'm running ubuntu server
#1843 [15:16] <HunterG> is it 64 bit ubuntu
#1844 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but.. You'll never need anywhere near that much RAM.
#1845 [15:16] <Brian1> Yeah, I'm just using 32 bit ubuntu, so I don't really get all 4
#1846 [15:16] <Wug> no, I have 64 bit java on 32 bit ubuntu. (yes its 64 bit0
#1847 [15:16] <Wug> dopeghoti - the minecraft server says otherwise
#1848 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: your kernel isn't using PAE?
#1849 [15:17] <HunterG> Also does any one use WOM by any chance
#1850 [15:17] <Wug> lolno
#1851 [15:17] <Brian1> I don't know, just took what the default install gave me :)
#1852 [15:17] <Wug> anywho, I use -xmx4g for both servers I run
#1853 [15:17] <Wug> (thats the other thing, I'm currently costing 2 mc servers)
#1854 [15:17] <Brian1> System monitor says I have 3.9, so I guess I'm using PAE
#1855 [15:18] <Wug> and I have 6GB ram total, so I don't use xms
#1856 [15:18] <Wug> hosting8
#1857 [15:18] <Wug> *
#1858 [15:18] <Wug> aauugffgh typo land
#1859 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> you're a sysadmin; I understand.
#1860 [15:18] <NotiCon> this is typo land
#1861 [15:20] <Wug> i'm not, I'm just an over the top power user
#1862 [15:21] <bobd0le> can you re-dye wool thats already been coloured?
#1863 [15:21] <VoxelHead> i gotta go pig... i'll see you "later"
#1864 [15:21] <Wug> nuuuuu vox don't leave us :c
#1865 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> bobd0le: yes.
#1866 [15:21] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: you gotta go pig?
#1867 [15:21] <VoxelHead> no, but it does make me horny
#1868 [15:21] <g> vox, stfu :P
#1869 [15:21] <NotiCon> O_o
#1870 [15:22] <Wug> pigs make you horny?
#1871 [15:22] <VoxelHead> No.
#1872 [15:22] <Wug> but but but
#1873 [15:22] <Wug> you said
#1874 [15:22] * Wug segfaults
#1874 [15:22] * VoxelHead sometimes lies.
#1874 [15:22] <NotiCon> bread: is Ellieg and VoxelHead the same
#1875 [15:22] <g> NotiCon: no
#1876 [15:22] <g> They're owned by different people and perform different functions
#1877 [15:22] <bread> Well, they're both Eggdrop, and they both have the bmotion module
#1878 [15:22] <g> :P
#1879 [15:23] <bread> but that's the only similarity
#1880 [15:23] <g> eggdrop
#1881 [15:23] <g> that explains a lot
#1882 [15:23] <NotiCon> oic
#1883 [15:23] <Wug> we need a bucket bot
#1884 [15:23] <g> a bucket bot?
#1885 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> how do you mean, g?
#1886 [15:23] <g> For making bucket lists?
#1887 [15:23] <Wug> nobody here probably knows what bucket is
#1888 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> explains what, precisely?
#1889 [15:23] <Wug> hang on
#1890 [15:23] <Brian1> DopeGhoti: Oh, I forgot to mention that I'm using the open jre from the ubuntu repositories, not the sun one. I tried the sun jre first, and it had the same problem. Since the open source drivers worked the same either way, I didn't keep the sun jre. I assume that this fix works on the Official sun jre also, but I haven't tested that.
#1891 [15:23] <g> DopeGhoti: They have a reputation for being.. Well, not as good really
#1892 [15:23] * SPaRT [SPaRT@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1893 [15:24] <Zw> Hi!
#1894 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: we shall see, I s'pose (:
#1895 [15:24] <peru_> it would be nice, if there was a message "You have no space left on drive C" instead of crashing
#1896 [15:24] <Wug> http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Bucket <---- encyclopediadramatica, read with caution
#1897 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> morning, Zw; welcome back!
#1898 [15:24] <NotiCon> http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Bucket <- g?
#1899 [15:24] <NotiCon> err
#1900 [15:24] <NotiCon> Wug: *
#1901 [15:24] <bread> as opposed to what, g?
#1902 [15:24] <g> bread: As opposed to coding your own
#1903 [15:24] <g> I don't necessarily consider that true but
#1904 [15:24] <g> that's the reputation :P
#1905 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> Yes, because there's nothing like reinventing the wheel when there's a Discount Tire every three blocks. :p
#1906 [15:25] <NotiCon> bucket bot seems kinda retarded
#1907 [15:25] <g> I enjoy the challange :P
#1908 [15:25] <bread> Well
#1909 [15:25] <bread> I'm not a programmer
#1910 [15:25] <Zw> Tnx :-)
#1911 [15:25] <Brian1> DopeGhoti: Where does all this help get posted, btw?
#1912 [15:25] <g> Never too late to start, bread :P
#1913 [15:25] <bread> and even if I was, I wouldn't take the time to do something that's been done thousand of times before.
#1914 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> (I have also written a bot from scratch, but sometimes eggs are convenient)
#1915 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: it gets inscribed onto a rapidly-spinning platter of chromium dioxide deep within VoxelHead's guts.
#1916 [15:26] <g> well
#1917 [15:26] <NotiCon> g: you gonna make McPlusPlus into one of those chatty bots?
#1918 [15:26] <g> I'm writing this bot specifically for this channel
#1919 [15:26] <Wug> bucket the retarded chatbot
#1920 [15:26] <g> NotiCon: fuck no
#1921 [15:26] <NotiCon> D:
#1922 [15:26] <g> As a result,
#1923 [15:26] <NotiCon> thought so
#1924 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> Brian1 help
#1925 [15:26] <VoxelHead> Brian1: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#1926 [15:26] <VoxelHead> Brian1: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#1927 [15:26] <g> I might end up obsoleting one or two of them
#1928 [15:26] <g> Maybe not though
#1929 [15:26] <g> we'll see
#1930 [15:26] <Wug> yeah lol we already have vox, the dildowhomper
#1931 [15:27] <g> lol
#1932 [15:27] <Wug> ask him what that is, not me
#1933 [15:27] <g> Maybe you'll also be happy to know that I don't plan on obsoleting any chatbots :P
#1934 [15:27] * VoxelHead does love a good dildowhomping
#1934 [15:27] <Wug> ^
#1935 [15:27] <g> ~dict dildowhomp 1
#1936 [15:27] <NotiCon> just as i was going to ask what it was :(
#1937 [15:27] <g> nothing for that :P
#1938 [15:28] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: do you know Ellieg?
#1939 [15:28] <VoxelHead> normally
#1940 [15:28] * Wug just cracked up at vox
#1940 [15:28] <Brian1> ??<index
#1941 [15:28] <VoxelHead> I do love a good justing.
#1942 [15:28] <Brian1> Hmm, not sure how that works
#1943 [15:28] * Pappa [Pappa@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1944 [15:29] <Zw> DopeGhoti: I ordered a new server now that is all set up and good, but i cant do the "byobu -dmS minecraft" command that you taught me. Do i need to install anything ? When i do the command, it gives no error, but i cant see it in byobu -x og screen -ls. ^^,
#1945 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> Zw: try using the command `screen` rather than `byobu`
#1946 [15:29] <Zw> ok, il give it a try :-D
#1947 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> (not every distro comes with byobu, which is just a screen superset)
#1948 [15:30] <Zw> It worked :-) Ok , so its only for me to use screen instead of byobu then:-D Tnx
#1949 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> Zw: splendid! happy to've helped again!
#1950 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> Brian1: what is it you're unsure of? how can I help and/or make things clearer?
#1951 [15:33] <Brian1> I'm not sure how to reference the help
#1952 [15:33] <Zw> :-D Tnx! I just ordered a server in germany, closer to where i live due to lagg :-) And then i got all up with own user in mysql and to run the server as you said for safety ^^^
#1953 [15:34] * Pipomorg [Pipomorg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1954 [15:35] <Pipomorg> hi
#1955 [15:39] * Vesko__ [Vesko__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1956 [15:41] <Smil3> What ports are hamatchi?
#1957 [15:41] <Smil3> i cant get my freind to play over hamatchi?
#1958 [15:41] * Diablothein [Diablothein@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1959 [15:42] * LargePrime [LargePrime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1960 [15:42] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1961 [15:45] <Brian1> DopeGhoti: I've got to leave now, but thanks for your help. :)
#1962 [15:46] <VoxelHead> mmm Brian1
#1963 [15:46] <Smil3> Wug?
#1964 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> ??> Smil3 fubar/hamachi
#1965 [15:46] <VoxelHead> Smil3: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1966 [15:46] <VoxelHead> Smil3: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1967 [15:46] <Wug> ?
#1968 [15:46] <Wug> ugh don't use hamachi
#1969 [15:46] <Wug> it sucks
#1970 [15:46] <Smil3> l
#1971 [15:46] <Smil3> k
#1972 [15:46] <Smil3> i got server online, where is the ip u need?
#1973 [15:47] <Smil3> you it be my IPV4 address?
#1974 [15:47] <Wug> yes
#1975 [15:47] <Smil3> 192.168.0.122
#1976 [15:47] <Wug> nope, thats a local address
#1977 [15:47] <Wug> but I have it anyway, its 91.100.47.163
#1978 [15:47] <Wug> hang on
#1979 [15:48] <Wug> is it running?
#1980 [15:48] <Smil3> the minecraft server says it is
#1981 [15:48] <Smil3> dont know if it is though
#1982 [15:48] <Wug> !check 91.100.47.163
#1983 [15:48] <Smil3> pffft
#1984 [15:48] * LargePrime [LargePrime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1985 [15:49] <Wug> you are behind a router right?
#1986 [15:49] <Smil3> behind a router
#1987 [15:49] <Smil3> ?
#1988 [15:49] <Wug> do you have a router.
#1989 [15:49] <Smil3> u mean wireless or wire?
#1990 [15:49] <VoxelHead> orless wire
#1991 [15:49] <Wug> either, doesnt matter
#1992 [15:50] <Smil3> im on wire, but have a router
#1993 [15:50] <Smil3> take the but out of sentence
#1994 [15:50] <Wug> you can connect to yourself with 192.168.0.122?
#1995 [15:50] <Smil3> what u mean connecT?
#1996 [15:50] <Wug> can you connect to your smp server
#1997 [15:51] <Smil3> i havent bought the game yet, as i want it to work before i pay 15 Euros
#1998 [15:51] <Wug> ........
#1999 [15:51] <Smil3> What?
#2000 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Then try the demo
#2001 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#2002 [15:51] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survivial, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2003 [15:51] <Smil3> im a cheap ass
#2004 [15:51] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#2005 [15:51] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2006 [15:51] <Wug> I can't troubleshoot a server if you can't even connect locally
#2007 [15:53] <Smil3> um Grey
#2008 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2009 [15:53] <Smil3> it doesnt have multiplayer >
#2010 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Of course not
#2011 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> If the single player works, no reason why the MP won't work when you buy it
#2012 [15:53] <Smil3> ok
#2013 [15:53] <Smil3> but i want a friend to connect to me
#2014 [15:54] <Smil3> i dont need singleplayer
#2015 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> For that, you and your friend will both need to purchase the game.
#2016 [15:54] <Smil3> :(
#2017 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> If you want to know whether the game will work, that is what the demo is for.
#2018 [15:55] <g> Smil3: Don't be a cheapass bro :P
#2019 [15:55] <g> It's worth the money
#2020 [15:55] <Smil3> i know it is, but singleplayer gets a bit like your on a island alone
#2021 [15:55] <Smil3> far far away from anything
#2022 [15:55] <g> That's sort of the point
#2023 [15:56] <Smil3> what sort of the point?
#2024 [15:56] <Smil3> in multiplayer, u are with a freind
#2025 [15:56] <g> that it IS the middle of nowhere
#2026 [15:56] <Smil3> far far away
#2027 [15:56] <g> Yeah
#2028 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> it's the the same reason you don't get to go on a road trip cross-country when test-driving a car.
#2029 [15:56] <Smil3> WITH A FREIND
#2030 [15:56] <g> So, what's your point, Smil3?
#2031 [15:56] <Smil3> multiplayer >>>>>>>>>> singleplayer
#2032 [15:56] <g> <g> So, what's your point, Smil3?
#2033 [15:56] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2034 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> I think g is asking you, Smil3, why you think you don't need to buy minecraft, and aren't willing to use the demo to 'try' out the game
#2035 [15:57] <g> ^
#2036 [15:57] <Smil3> Ive tryed the game
#2037 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> It is no different in multiplayer, and the single player is enough to determine whether or not your computer can run it
#2038 [15:57] <Smil3> i dont think i dont need to buy it
#2039 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Then we have no reason to help you.
#2040 [15:57] <Smil3> i know my pc can run it ...
#2041 [15:58] <g> If you think you don't need to buy it, you get no multiplayer :P
#2042 [15:58] <g> It's simple as that
#2043 [15:58] <Smil3> but i dont want to waste money on a game to paly singleplayer, if i only want to play mulitplayer and that might not work
#2044 [15:58] <Smil3> so i do background check
#2045 [15:58] * zw [zw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2046 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> the only reason MP might not work is not related to the game itsllf
#2047 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> you've tested the game, now buy it or not, but if you don't buy it, don't expect help from us.
#2048 [15:59] <Smil3> before you buy something, ive learned to see if it works before buying
#2049 [15:59] <g> You have around two million players that can play multiplayer fine
#2050 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> That. Is. What. The. Demo. Is. For.
#2051 [15:59] <Zw> woho, managed to change my ip to name :P
#2052 [15:59] <g> Why should you be any different?
#2053 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> Do I need to speak more slowly?
#2054 [15:59] <Smil3> dope, no
#2055 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> Zw: go go gadget PTR record (:
#2056 [15:59] <Zw> ^^^
#2057 [16:00] <g> lol, I did /whoiz zw
#2058 [16:00] <VoxelHead> #!£*^^Zw£!#£*~@
#2059 [16:00] <g> vox, shut up
#2060 [16:00] * bread hugs vox
#2060 [16:00] <VoxelHead> ~oef~
#2061 [16:00] <g> :P
#2062 [16:00] <Zw> g?
#2063 [16:00] <g> afk, food
#2064 [16:00] <g> sorry :P
#2065 [16:01] <Zw> what did you meen ?:P
#2066 [16:01] <gAway2002> I typoe'd whois
#2067 [16:01] <gAway2002> with a z
#2068 [16:01] <gAway2002> afk now :P
#2069 [16:01] <Zw> just thought it was fun to have my mc server as ip :P
#2070 [16:01] * LargePrime [LargePrime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2071 [16:02] <Zw> PTR record was unknown to me :P Just used rDNS
#2072 [16:02] <VoxelHead> telling me to shut up just before going away is one reason I don't pay attention to you anymore, G.
#2073 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> rDNS is a colloquiallism for PTR record, which is the technical term the DNS record that is placed for reverse DNS lookups to work.
#2074 [16:03] <Zw> Ah ok :P Still learning you see ;P
#2075 [16:03] * Pit [Pit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2076 [16:05] <Zw> since its noone asking for help i just start a topic ;P Have anyone had any problems due to Sony`s intruders?
#2077 [16:05] <Pit> Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve my locally hosted minecraft server problem? :)
#2078 [16:05] * Oerg866_ [Oerg866_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2079 [16:05] <Pit> Sorry to cut across Zw,
#2080 [16:05] <Zw> Pit: Ask how
#2081 [16:05] <Zw> np
#2082 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> Other than not being able to use Hulu or Netflix (or play RDR online) on my PS3? Not really, no.
#2083 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> But hey, more time for Minecraft!
#2084 [16:05] <Zw> Pit: what is your problem?
#2085 [16:05] <Zw> Dope: True :P Was just wondering if i sould close my PS3 Creditcard
#2086 [16:06] <Pit> Ok: I've hosted the server, all files in the right place and I have some friends already connected to it, and it works for them,
#2087 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> Zw: According to Sony, no CC info was stolen, but PSN passwords may have been, so if you used the same password elsewhere, change it.
#2088 [16:06] <Pit> But when I try to connect, using my ip, or localhost, It says connection refused: connect.
#2089 [16:07] <Zw> Pit: tried to restart mc? using right version?
#2090 [16:07] <Zw> tried local ip?
#2091 [16:07] <Zw> if you use Windows "run" ipconfig, and try to use local ip
#2092 [16:08] <Pit> I've restarted Minecraft once, and used the ip input that the others used.
#2093 [16:08] <Zw> and if you dont use standard port, remember to type it after localhost. Like: "localhost:port"
#2094 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> Pit: in your server.properties file, did you (correctly) leave the server-ip= line blank?
#2095 [16:09] <Zw> Dope: Ah ok, i heard that they was not sure, but it was cryptet. So many I know have closed theirs cards ^^
#2096 [16:09] <Pit> DopeGhoti: I did that, but I cant recall if I did that and restarted minecraft as O originally had my ip in the blank line area.
#2097 [16:11] <Pit> Still refused entry. The server-ip is definately blank, and localhost:port also gets the connect refused: connect
#2098 [16:11] <Zw> did you restart after changes?
#2099 [16:11] <Zw> "save-all" "stop"
#2100 [16:11] <Zw> and start the server again
#2101 [16:12] * Oerg866 [Oerg866@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2102 [16:13] <Pit> Let me try that Zw
#2103 [16:15] * LargePrime [LargePrime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2104 [16:15] <Pit> Zw, and DopGoti, thanks for your help! After restarting the server, with those changes, localhost lets me connect.
#2105 [16:15] <Zw> good :-)
#2106 [16:15] <Zw> enjoy digging ^^
#2107 [16:15] <Pit> Tyvm
#2108 [16:17] <bobd0le> damniyt
#2109 [16:17] <bobd0le> whoever told me you could dye non-white wool was a liar
#2110 [16:17] <bobd0le> A LIARRRRRRRRRR
#2111 [16:17] <VoxelHead> yes... wait a minute... no.
#2112 [16:17] <VoxelHead> Blimey.
#2113 [16:21] <Smil3> Textures
#2114 [16:21] <bobd0le> what about them?
#2115 [16:21] <Smil3> was seeing if it linked a website to me
#2116 [16:23] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2117 [16:23] * Pit [Pit@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2118 [16:23] <VoxelHead> bye Pit
#2119 [16:24] <Smil3> What is the latest version of minecraft?
#2120 [16:25] <g> Smil3: Pirating, are we?
#2121 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> Smil3: server,or client?
#2122 [16:25] <Smil3> bought it
#2123 [16:25] <Smil3> just know
#2124 [16:25] <g> Hm, alright
#2125 [16:25] <g> 1.5_01
#2126 [16:25] <Smil3> Smil3e log in
#2127 [16:25] <g> for the client
#2128 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> server is Beta 1.5_02; client is 1.5_01
#2129 [16:25] <Smil3> why it say 1.5_02 for server
#2130 [16:25] <g> it's _02 for the se-
#2131 [16:25] <Smil3> oooo
#2132 [16:25] <g> ninja'd
#2133 [16:25] <Smil3> lol
#2134 [16:25] <Smil3> Thanks dope
#2135 [16:25] * DopeGhoti sheaths his sai
#2135 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> cheers.
#2136 [16:25] <g> lol
#2137 [16:26] <VoxelHead> Cheeeeeeeeeeeeers.
#2138 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> and congratulations on your purchace.
#2139 [16:26] <Smil3> Any skins to get
#2140 [16:26] <Smil3> thanks
#2141 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/skins
#2142 [16:26] <VoxelHead> smp/skins: Not seeing your skin on the profile page is normal; uploading your site will work and your skin will show normally in-game. Check there.
#2143 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> hm. thought that had a link to minecraftskins.com
#2144 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> anyhow.. ^
#2145 [16:27] <Smil3> hehe
#2146 [16:27] <bobd0le> is there a specific environment for certain colored flowers? cause im looking for red but theres just tons of yellow everywhere
#2147 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> You can't use a skin if you haven't paid for minecraft
#2148 [16:27] * dennis [dennis@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2149 [16:28] <Smil3> lol "hitler lumber jack" skin ...
#2150 [16:28] <Smil3> seriously
#2151 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Smil3 alleges that ey has now purchased the game.
#2152 [16:28] <Smil3> anyway to prove it, like a buddy thing or anything
#2153 [16:29] <dennis> hey guys, could anybody please help me with ma drowning trap? :|
#2154 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> what is your account name?
#2155 [16:29] <dennis> http://www.imagebanana.com/view/zinzgwgl/Screenshot.png
#2156 [16:29] <Smil3> Smil3e
#2157 [16:29] <dennis> zombies wont drown :(
#2158 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> !paid Smil3
#2159 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> er
#2160 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> !paid Smil3e
#2161 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> there you are, then
#2162 [16:29] <Smil3> ...
#2163 [16:29] <Smil3> so proven?
#2164 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> pretty much, yeah
#2165 [16:30] <VoxelHead> toodle-oo
#2166 [16:30] * nip [nip@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2167 [16:31] * Lish_ [Lish_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2168 [16:31] * Keltinray_ [Keltinray_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2169 [16:31] * Cyberstorm [Cyberstorm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2170 [16:32] * Sirrush [Sirrush@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2171 [16:32] * bokaholic [bokaholic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2172 [16:32] * dolseni [dolseni@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2173 [16:32] <Smil3> anyone willing to join my server to see if i can host?
#2174 [16:35] <Smil3> ...
#2175 [16:35] * relsqui [relsqui@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2176 [16:35] * ksk_ [ksk_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2177 [16:36] * g [g@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2178 [16:36] * wheybags_ [wheybags_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2179 [16:37] <Smil3> g?
#2180 [16:37] * noobidoo_ [noobidoo_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2181 [16:37] * gothroach [gothroach@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2182 [16:37] * Morrolan [Morrolan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2183 [16:37] * mr_flea [mr_flea@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2184 [16:37] * oldtopmanserver [oldtopmanserver@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2185 [16:37] * Popz [Popz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2186 [16:37] * _Zw_ [_Zw_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2187 [16:37] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2188 [16:37] * Roy [Roy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2189 [16:38] * trench [trench@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2190 [16:38] * tallest_red [tallest_red@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2191 [16:38] * kelm [kelm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2192 [16:39] * SlashLife^m [SlashLife^m@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2193 [16:39] <Smil3> Hello
#2194 [16:43] * ivan [ivan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2195 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - Have you downloaded the beta server from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2196 [16:44] <g> Bah
#2197 [16:44] <g> <@mr_flea> apocalypse seems to be having trouble
#2198 [16:44] <Smil3> yer
#2199 [16:44] <Smil3> just wanted to check an ip
#2200 [16:46] <Smil3> just wanted someone who bought the game to check an ip
#2201 [16:46] * deblan [deblan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2202 [16:46] <deblan> Hey everybody :)
#2203 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - Your ip?
#2204 [16:47] <Smil3> 192.168.0.122
#2205 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> That's a private internal IP address
#2206 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Have you port forward?
#2207 [16:48] <Smil3> yes
#2208 [16:48] <VoxelHead> perhaps
#2209 [16:48] <deblan> does someone know why i can not log on minecraft from Minecraft.jar like in my web browser?
#2210 [16:48] <g> !check 91.100.47.163
#2211 [16:48] <g> Smil3: ^
#2212 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - Is the server running?
#2213 [16:48] <Smil3> yip
#2214 [16:49] <Smil3> im on it
#2215 [16:49] <g> What port?
#2216 [16:49] <Smil3> 57931
#2217 [16:49] <VoxelHead> Amazing, that's the same combination as my luggage!
#2218 [16:49] <Smil3> port forward that?
#2219 [16:49] <g> !check 91.100.47.163:57931
#2220 [16:49] <g> Yes, do that
#2221 [16:49] <Smil3> k
#2222 [16:49] <g> VoxelHead, be quiet
#2223 [16:50] <Smil3> what? VoxelHead
#2224 [16:50] <SPaRT> somebody wants to check if it's possible to join my server?
#2225 [16:50] <g> !check 88.75.133.227
#2226 [16:50] <g> It isn't, SPaRT.
#2227 [16:50] <SPaRT> hmmm
#2228 [16:50] <SPaRT> but why?!?!?!
#2229 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> my money's on incorrectly forwarded ports.
#2230 [16:51] <Smil3> !check 91.100.47.163:57931
#2231 [16:51] <Smil3> F
#2232 [16:51] <SPaRT> riht i have one last idea
#2233 [16:51] <SPaRT> i'll restart my router and be back in a few minutes
#2234 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - You port forwarded 57931 to 192.168.0.122?
#2235 [16:52] <Smil3> what?
#2236 [16:52] * LordClaros [LordClaros@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2237 [16:52] <Smil3> wait
#2238 [16:52] <LordClaros> I got banned from the other channels for some unknown reason.
#2239 [16:52] <Smil3> ill send pic of what i do
#2240 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - Simple question, you set up the port forward to point port 57931 to your private ip address of 192.168.0.122
#2241 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> LordClaros - What channel?
#2242 [16:52] <LordClaros> Both of the others.
#2243 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> What channel exactly?
#2244 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> there are more than two other channels on this network.
#2245 [16:53] <LordClaros> Both of the other MineCraft ones.
#2246 [16:53] <LordClaros> Oh.
#2247 [16:53] <LordClaros> Uh...
#2248 [16:53] <LordClaros> "#Mcchatter" and "#minecraft"
#2249 [16:53] <Smil3> !check 91.100.47.163:57931
#2250 [16:53] <Kealper> oh gosh...karaoke friday at my house....my eats
#2251 [16:53] <Kealper> ears*
#2252 [16:54] <Smil3> lol
#2253 [16:54] <LordClaros> I have barely used the latter.
#2254 [16:54] <Smil3> not to be racist, but are they asain?
#2255 [16:54] <LordClaros> And I've only used the former once.
#2256 [16:54] <deblan> does someone know why i can not log on minecraft from Minecraft.jar like in my web browser?
#2257 [16:54] <deblan> please :p
#2258 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - Could you check your router's status page, make sure the internet/wan/public ip address there matches up with 91.100.47.163
#2259 [16:54] <deblan> (i am on debian)
#2260 [16:54] <Smil3> i walked past a karaoke place and a asain guy was singing
#2261 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> deblan - What's the exact error you get?
#2262 [16:54] <Kealper> ok back again
#2263 [16:54] <Kealper> no, they arn't asian
#2264 [16:55] <deblan> login failed
#2265 [16:55] <Smil3> swear sounded worse then justin beeivcvesda
#2266 [16:55] <deblan> i use the same ton log on the website
#2267 [16:55] <deblan> to log on*
#2268 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/ipv6
#2269 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> deblan - Did you use the "Save login" button, or did you retype in the login yourself?
#2270 [16:55] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#2271 [16:55] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#2272 [16:56] <LordClaros> Anyway... Does anyone know of a good alternative to MineCraft that can be played from a flashdrive?
#2273 [16:56] <deblan> DopeGhoti: ipv6 is disabled
#2274 [16:56] <bobd0le> Claros
#2275 [16:56] <LordClaros> I doubt that any exist, but, well...
#2276 [16:56] <bobd0le> mario kart 64
#2277 [16:56] <deblan> GreyVulpine: i retype username and password
#2278 [16:56] <bobd0le> or other old game emulators
#2279 [16:56] <LordClaros> wat
#2280 [16:56] <LordClaros> Huh.
#2281 [16:56] <bobd0le> cs 1.6 works on flash drive too
#2282 [16:56] <LordClaros> That's actually not a bad idea.
#2283 [16:56] <bobd0le> anyway, why i came back here, im so mindfucked right now
#2284 [16:56] <Smil3> !check 192.168.0.122:57931
#2285 [16:56] <LordClaros> I'd completely forgotten that I could use that...
#2286 [16:57] <Smil3> ignore that message
#2287 [16:57] * SPaRT [SPaRT@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2288 [16:57] <deblan> VoxelHead: i'm going to try your parameter
#2289 [16:57] <VoxelHead> cool
#2290 [16:57] <bobd0le> i made a 3x3, and 1 deep hole in minecraft, i had 10 pieces of sand and filled it in, yet i have 2 pieces of sand left when i should have one
#2291 [16:57] <SPaRT> !check 88.75.149.26
#2292 [16:57] <bobd0le> my brain is just full of fuck right now
#2293 [16:57] <Kealper> bobd0le: sounds painful
#2294 [16:57] <SPaRT> somebody german here?
#2295 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> Ein bischien.
#2296 [16:58] <deblan> VoxelHead: same problem :p
#2297 [16:58] <SPaRT> i need somebody to check my f'n portforwarding on my router
#2298 [16:58] <SPaRT> with teamviewer
#2299 [16:58] <bobd0le> sigh, i think im accidently duplicating sand or something
#2300 [16:58] <DopeGhoti> SPaRT: Ich bin zum Arbeitplatz; vieleicht spaeter?
#2301 [16:58] <Smil3> place to host images?
#2302 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - Imgur.com
#2303 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> Smil3: imgur or picasa
#2304 [16:59] <SPaRT> i mean i can change my router menu to english
#2305 [16:59] <SPaRT> DopeGhoti: later i'm in my bed need to work at 5 am 2morrow
#2306 [16:59] * Smiley [Smiley@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2307 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> Tut mir Leid.
#2308 [17:01] <Smil3> Lol n1 name Smiley
#2309 [17:01] <SPaRT> this is madness
#2310 [17:01] * sardonyx [sardonyx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2311 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> no, this is #minecrafthelp
#2312 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> similar.
#2313 [17:02] <Smil3> minecraft music is aWSOME!!!
#2314 [17:02] <deblan> Smil3++
#2315 [17:02] <Kealper> i++
#2316 [17:03] <SPaRT> !check 88.75.149.26
#2317 [17:03] <Smil3> just got it in background listening
#2318 [17:03] <Smil3> WHAT
#2319 [17:03] <Smil3> !!!!
#2320 [17:03] <SPaRT> O.o
#2321 [17:03] <VoxelHead> £##~$$^%#!#*~^$
#2322 [17:03] <Smil3> WHAT!!!!!
#2323 [17:03] <Smil3> spart
#2324 [17:03] <Smil3> tellllllllll
#2325 [17:03] <SPaRT> tell u what?
#2326 [17:03] <Smil3> how?
#2327 [17:03] <Smil3> u?
#2328 [17:03] <Smil3> do it
#2329 [17:03] <SPaRT> i have no f'n idea....
#2330 [17:03] <Smil3> :(
#2331 [17:03] <Kealper> stop using the enter button as a space bar
#2332 [17:03] <SPaRT> the router said ports are forwarded and enabled all the time
#2333 [17:04] <SPaRT> just clicked on "apply" again
#2334 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - We were trying to help you before, I asked you a question.
#2335 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - Could you check your router's status page, make sure the internet/wan/public ip address there matches up with 91.100.47.163
#2336 [17:04] <Smil3> and that was?
#2337 [17:04] <Smil3> it does
#2338 [17:04] <SPaRT> this router is sick
#2339 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> It does?
#2340 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Did you post a screenshot of your port forwarding page Smil3?
#2341 [17:05] <Smil3> yer
#2342 [17:05] <Smil3> send it to u
#2343 [17:06] * h3lli [h3lli@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2344 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - What's the first few lines of the server console show?
#2345 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com it?
#2346 [17:07] <Smil3> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.5_02 [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565 [INFO] Preparing level "world" [INFO] Preparing start region [INFO] Done (524179649ns)! For help, type "help" or "?"
#2347 [17:07] <deblan> thanks for having help me (although i do not have resolved yet the problem)
#2348 [17:07] <deblan> bye :)
#2349 [17:07] <Pipomorg> Hi?
#2350 [17:08] <Pipomorg> Why cant I enter a server?
#2351 [17:08] <Pipomorg> It says Bad Log in
#2352 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - You're starting the server on port 25565, not 57931
#2353 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Pipomorg - Have you paid for minecraft?
#2354 [17:08] <Smil3> well forwarding that port too
#2355 [17:08] <Kealper> Pipomorg: restart your client and try again
#2356 [17:08] <Kealper> also what grey said, you did buy it, right?
#2357 [17:08] <Pipomorg> yes
#2358 [17:08] <Pipomorg> 14.95
#2359 [17:09] <Kealper> when did you buy it, and can you log in to the website fine?
#2360 [17:09] <Pipomorg> yes
#2361 [17:09] <Pipomorg> today
#2362 [17:09] <Kealper> hmm...
#2363 [17:09] <Pipomorg> Ok
#2364 [17:09] <Pipomorg> did it fie
#2365 [17:09] <Pipomorg> fine
#2366 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - Is the 25565 port forward enabled?
#2367 [17:09] <Pipomorg> i loged in ^^
#2368 [17:09] <Pipomorg> Thanks ^^
#2369 [17:10] <Smil3> yes
#2370 [17:10] <Kealper> oh, well then lol
#2371 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Smil3 - Then, do you have any security software or firewall on your computer?
#2372 [17:11] <Smil3> AVG?
#2373 [17:11] <VoxelHead> do you really want to know that?
#2374 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Just the AV, or the security suite?
#2375 [17:11] <Smil3> nope
#2376 [17:11] <Smil3> dont really know if should be saying this
#2377 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Well, alright, if you have the security suite, you'll need to let in the minecraft server traffic through port 25565.
#2378 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> If you don't, check window's firewall, make sure it's also letting in port 25565
#2379 [17:13] <Smil3> can i not just disable it for 10mins and see if anything changes?
#2380 [17:17] * Bofrostmann [Bofrostmann@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2381 [17:17] * Bofrostmann [Bofrostmann@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2382 [17:17] <VoxelHead> I like them ^_^
#2383 [17:18] * aodai [aodai@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2384 [17:24] * qable [qable@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2385 [17:34] * Captain-Lightning [Captain-Lightning@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2386 [17:38] <SPaRT> ok guys as i got this a**hole on my server just a few minutes ago.... what can i do NOT to get dumbasses onto my server?
#2387 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> whitelist it
#2388 [17:39] <g> whiteli-
#2389 [17:39] <g> God damn it, man :P
#2390 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> :)
#2391 [17:40] <SPaRT> so only whitelisted people are allowed to join?
#2392 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2393 [17:40] <SPaRT> hmmm
#2394 [17:40] <SPaRT> but it's hard to get new players then isn't it?
#2395 [17:40] <Kealper> players are actually more attracted to whitelisted servers
#2396 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> The risks you run with a public server, you get all kinds of people.
#2397 [17:40] <SPaRT> this guy destroyed parts of my buildings and built some shit
#2398 [17:40] <Kealper> because it means random douchebags can't just join the server and destroy what they make
#2399 [17:40] * oldtopman [oldtopman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2400 [17:41] <SPaRT> it's not _that_ public
#2401 [17:41] <SPaRT> it's only on when i'm on it
#2402 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Then just ban him, and be more careful in the future who you expose it to.
#2403 [17:41] <SPaRT> there should be a possibility to lock stuff
#2404 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Also, look into modding your server.
#2405 [17:41] <SPaRT> yeah i banned this guy
#2406 [17:42] <SPaRT> modding in which way?
#2407 [17:42] <Kealper> Bukkit or something using protection and ownership plugins
#2408 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2409 [17:44] <SPaRT> that's a mod?
#2410 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2411 [17:44] <SPaRT> :-/
#2412 [17:44] <SPaRT> that's too much for me atm
#2413 [17:49] * skope [skope@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2414 [17:49] <skope> sup guys. my friend is having a problem with extreme lagging and chunk errors
#2415 [17:49] * the_late_man [the_late_man@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2416 [17:49] <skope> tried things from that thread on forums, but no luck
#2417 [17:49] <skope> any ideas what can i test?
#2418 [17:49] <Kealper> is it on all servers or just one?
#2419 [17:50] <skope> private server, haven't tried public ones
#2420 [17:50] <skope> single player works fine
#2421 [17:50] <Kealper> have him try smp.shadow-craft.net
#2422 [17:51] * McBag [McBag@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2423 [17:52] <skope> oh, might be my sucky server too, got console warning now
#2424 [17:52] * thebandoffice [thebandoffice@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2425 [17:53] * Blackthorne [Blackthorne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2426 [17:53] <thebandoffice> Quick question: is there anyway I can identify which region I am in on the game? Like which mcr file that part is a part of?
#2427 [17:53] <Morrolan> thebandoffice: Not without some maths. ^^
#2428 [17:53] <Kealper> no idea, i don't fully understand how the mcr format works :/
#2429 [17:54] <skope> hmm, apparently my friends single player don't work well either
#2430 [17:54] <skope> blocks look black etc
#2431 [17:54] <Morrolan> thebandoffice: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Beta_Level_Format#Region_File_Location
#2432 [17:54] <Kealper> O.o
#2433 [17:54] <Morrolan> You're interested in the REgion file location paragraph
#2434 [17:54] <skope> something to do with java?
#2435 [17:54] <Morrolan> skope: Did he already reinstall Minecraft
#2436 [17:54] <Morrolan> ?*
#2437 [17:54] <skope> Morrolan: various times
#2438 [17:56] * LordTrevor [LordTrevor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2439 [17:57] <Morrolan> Skope: Reinstalled Java as well?
#2440 [17:57] <Morrolan> And did it always behave like this, or only since the last update / since his dog died / whatever ?
#2441 [17:58] <skope> Morrolan: he bought his own game, tested with my account at first
#2442 [17:58] <skope> with my account it worked fine
#2443 [17:58] <skope> i'll let him try with my account now
#2444 [17:58] <skope> and reinstall java
#2445 [17:58] <Morrolan> If it works with your account then it's really strange. :/
#2446 [17:59] <skope> hope reinstalling java will work
#2447 [17:59] <skope> waste of 15 euros otherwise :)
#2448 [18:00] <Morrolan> Well, if we don't manage to get it working he can always claim a refund.
#2449 [18:00] <skope> sure, but no proof
#2450 [18:01] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#2451 [18:01] <oldtopman> skope: They tend to be very generous.
#2452 [18:01] <Morrolan> They're quite customer-friendly when -
#2453 [18:01] <oldtopman> skope: Do you need a reinstall tutorial?
#2454 [18:01] <skope> oldtopman: i don't. just testing
#2455 [18:02] <Morrolan> Oldtopman, y u ninjaing me? :(
#2456 [18:02] <oldtopman> Morrolan: Just gettin' ya back!
#2457 [18:02] <Morrolan> Oh. Ok then. :D
#2458 [18:02] <oldtopman> STABBITYDEATH!
#2459 [18:02] <Morrolan> Oh, I knew I shouldn't have trusted you.
#2460 [18:03] * DopeGhoti emerges from the shadows.
#2460 [18:03] * GreyVulpine turns off the lights on DopeGhoti's entrance.
#2460 [18:03] * Morrolan Points a DopeGhoti with a flashlight
#2460 [18:03] <Morrolan> at*
#2461 [18:03] * DopeGhoti casts shadows
#2461 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> (a level 0 spell)
#2462 [18:04] * GreyVulpine casts light on DopeGhoti's head
#2462 [18:04] * DopeGhoti glows angelicly
#2462 [18:04] <Morrolan> How long till someone puts on his robe and wizard hat?
#2463 [18:04] <skope> i already did
#2464 [18:05] * oldtopman hakodens #minecrafthelp
#2464 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> !roll 1d100 to turn #minecrafthelp into #D&D
#2465 [18:05] * GreyBot --> "GreyVulpine Dice Error: Invalid arguments in the attempted roll"
#2465 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> pfft
#2466 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> I hate you too greybot
#2467 [18:05] <Morrolan> Obviously your ETW0 is too bad to win against Greybot. :p
#2468 [18:07] <Morrolan> To be honest, I never really understood what those pretty numbers scrolling along in the textbar of BG2 meant. ^^
#2469 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2470 [18:10] <Morrolan> Completely unrelated, there was a guy earlier who had issues with his portforwarding, looked as if he set up everything correctly, but you still couldn't connect to his server. Did he come back?
#2471 [18:10] <oldtopman>
#2472 [18:11] <aetherian> oldtopman: is that haiku?
#2473 [18:11] <oldtopman> Yes it is.
#2474 [18:13] <skope> weird
#2475 [18:14] <skope> reinstalled java, deleted everything from application folder, tried different servers
#2476 [18:14] <skope> still the same thing
#2477 [18:14] <Morrolan> :/
#2478 [18:14] <Morrolan> And it happens in singleplayer too you said?
#2479 [18:16] <skope> in singleplayer textures look different
#2480 [18:16] <skope> block sides look black etc
#2481 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> did you delete the texturepacks directory in .minecraft/ ?
#2482 [18:16] <skope> DopeGhoti: deleted everything
#2483 [18:16] <skope> fresh install
#2484 [18:17] <skope> and reinstalled java too
#2485 [18:17] <Morrolan> Block sides look black? And not caused by a texture pack? Must be an issue with OpenGL then.
#2486 [18:17] <skope> hmm, okay
#2487 [18:17] <skope> so gpu drivers?
#2488 [18:17] * Count [Count@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2489 [18:17] <Morrolan> Or his graphics card is diening.
#2490 [18:17] <Morrolan> dying*
#2491 [18:17] <Morrolan> Nope, doesn't look correct. :/
#2492 [18:18] <skope> yeah
#2493 [18:18] <skope> gotta try reinstall drivers etc
#2494 [18:18] <Morrolan> What is the "ing form" of "to die"?
#2495 [18:18] <skope> weird that it worked with my account yesterday
#2496 [18:18] <Morrolan> Skope: Yea, indeed.
#2497 [18:18] <oldtopman> Morrolan: Dying
#2498 [18:18] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#2499 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: dying?
#2500 [18:18] <Kealper> that.....was so awesome.....
#2501 [18:19] <Morrolan> Looks somehow strange, but thanks. :D
#2502 [18:19] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2503 [18:19] <Kealper> i found some of those anaglyph glasses....and was just playing MC in anaglyph mode
#2504 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: it work well?
#2505 [18:19] <Kealper> the colors are a tad off so it produces some ghosting, but all-in-all...it was epic
#2506 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> huh. I'll have to try that sometime.
#2507 [18:20] <Morrolan> Meh, now I have to look for some of these glasses. :D
#2508 [18:20] <Kealper> make sure you can run the game at a good framerate though, because doing games in anaglyph mode will half their framerate, since they have to render each frame twice
#2509 [18:20] <Smil3> Guess who back ...
#2510 [18:20] <Morrolan> Vox I guess?
#2511 [18:20] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2512 [18:20] <VoxelHead> can i phone a friend?
#2513 [18:21] <Kealper> VoxelHead: no.
#2514 [18:21] <skope> anyone have any other suggestions what i can do?
#2515 [18:21] <oldtopman> Kealper: I can do far, Fancy, 3D, no lag
#2516 [18:21] <Morrolan> Yes, you can. Just use that Skype on the table over there.
#2517 [18:21] <Smil3> so nice ...
#2518 [18:22] <Morrolan> skope: Not really. Something on his PC must mess it up.
#2519 [18:22] <Kealper> oldtopman: i was just saying for anyone wanting to try it, they should make sure they can get atleast a constant 60fps or more without anaglyph mode on, becuase they'll get half their normal framerate with it enabled
#2520 [18:22] <skope> Morrolan: yeah, now we tried to just wait to game to catch up
#2521 [18:22] <skope> and seems to work somehow
#2522 [18:22] <skope> strange
#2523 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> I just noticed last night that my reported FPS in-game was also exactly the same as blocks-updated, at all times, so I wonder which number I'm seeing.
#2524 [18:22] <LordTrevor> Kealpler : I only lose about 5 fps in anaglyph mode
#2525 [18:23] <Morrolan> Skope: Is his PC very old or something?
#2526 [18:23] <Kealper> LordTrevor: really? your computer must be complete overkill then lol
#2527 [18:23] <skope> Morrolan: 3 to 4 years
#2528 [18:23] * JasonBeee [JasonBeee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2529 [18:23] <Morrolan> Skope: Shouldn't be the issue then.
#2530 [18:24] <Kealper> on most computers i've seen and on my own, any game that does anaglyph mode will get around half the framerate
#2531 [18:24] <skope> i know it might be problems with performance, but weird that it worked past
#2532 [18:24] <Morrolan> Kealper: Depends on how much computing time goes into the game logic and how much into the graphics I guess.
#2533 [18:24] <oldtopman> !isdown minecraft.net
#2534 [18:24] <GreyBot> oldtopman: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2535 [18:24] <Morrolan> Oh, great, just great.
#2536 [18:25] <Morrolan> Let's hope it's just a hiccup.
#2537 [18:25] <Kealper> :<
#2538 [18:25] <skope> hmm, seems like that when my friend gets into multiplayer server, it doesn't load the content
#2539 [18:26] <Morrolan> Skope: Does he have another computer on the same network to check with?
#2540 [18:26] <skope> mine is
#2541 [18:26] <skope> and it works fine
#2542 [18:27] <Morrolan> Ok.
#2543 [18:27] <skope> hmm
#2544 [18:28] <skope> could it be anything to do with servers downtime?
#2545 [18:28] <skope> i didn't get into my server either now
#2546 [18:28] <Morrolan> Nah, that will only lead to not being able to log in to the server.
#2547 [18:28] <skope> thought so
#2548 [18:28] <JasonBeee> anyone else getting error code 503?
#2549 [18:28] <Morrolan> JasonBeee: Minecraft.net?
#2550 [18:29] <Smil3> yip
#2551 [18:29] <skope> i got
#2552 [18:29] <Smil3> JasonBeee i got it too
#2553 [18:29] <JasonBeee> aight
#2554 [18:29] <JasonBeee> we broke minecraft :D
#2555 [18:29] <Morrolan> I don't get any error at all, seems it's just plain and simple overloaded.
#2556 [18:29] <JasonBeee> probably down in certain zones
#2557 [18:29] <skope> i knew i shouldn't have come here
#2558 [18:29] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2559 [18:29] <skope> feds got minecraft
#2560 [18:29] <skope> and will get me too soon
#2561 [18:30] <Smil3> what u been doing skope on minecrafT?
#2562 [18:30] * Raptor_Jesus [Raptor_Jesus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2563 [18:30] <Smil3> abusing sheep?
#2564 [18:30] <skope> about it
#2565 [18:30] <Raptor_Jesus> Minecraft go down again?
#2566 [18:30] <Morrolan> Yep
#2567 [18:30] <JasonBeee> yes Raptor_Jesus
#2568 [18:30] <skope> hoh
#2569 [18:30] * Diablothein [Diablothein@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2570 [18:30] <Smil3> what happeneed there?
#2571 [18:31] <Morrolan> Seems Diablothein is a nickname registered by Raptor_Jesus
#2572 [18:31] * Diablothein [Diablothein@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2573 [18:31] <Raptor_Jesus> Yep
#2574 [18:31] <Smil3> lol
#2575 [18:31] <Raptor_Jesus> And I dunno why is it doing this :|
#2576 [18:31] <Morrolan> And since that guy "stole" it he gets killed on demand. :D
#2577 [18:31] <Morrolan> Raptor: Ask him?
#2578 [18:32] <JasonBeee> sucks, i had diamonds in my inv
#2579 [18:32] <Raptor_Jesus> Uhm it's me.
#2580 [18:32] <Raptor_Jesus> Both are me, but, apparently, XChat is being idiotic :|
#2581 [18:32] <Morrolan> Ah, ok, now I get it.
#2582 [18:32] <Morrolan> Just wait for it to time out then.
#2583 [18:32] <Smil3> i dont ...
#2584 [18:32] * Pulec [Pulec@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2585 [18:32] <Morrolan> If the connection is closed, that is.
#2586 [18:33] <Smil3> Morolan, hi
#2587 [18:33] <Morrolan> Ah, hey Smil3
#2588 [18:33] <Morrolan> Working now?
#2589 [18:33] <Smil3> nope .
#2590 [18:33] <Morrolan> Oh well, any security software which might block it?
#2591 [18:33] <Smil3> opened so many ports might aswell just open all
#2592 [18:33] <Smil3> not that i know of
#2593 [18:33] <Smil3> doesnt help that minecraft is down ...
#2594 [18:34] <skope> it happens
#2595 [18:34] <Diablothein> There we go.
#2596 [18:34] <Morrolan> Oh, you can just activate offline mode, then you can try to connect without needing minecraft.net
#2597 [18:34] <skope> i've been doing development things myself too, and something i hate, is people whining ;)
#2598 [18:34] <Smil3> im whining?
#2599 [18:36] <Smil3> how come no one answereed that?
#2600 [18:36] <skope> just said it
#2601 [18:36] <Smil3> oO
#2602 [18:36] <Smil3> k
#2603 [18:37] <skope> no idea actually what i'm saying
#2604 [18:37] <skope> i'm dead tired
#2605 [18:37] <Smil3> same here
#2606 [18:37] <skope> and i have like 1000 rows to code
#2607 [18:38] * h3lli [h3lli@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2608 [18:38] <Smil3> been awake for nearly 20 hours
#2609 [18:39] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2610 [18:39] <skope> minecraft.net back up
#2611 [18:39] <skope> in finland at least
#2612 [18:39] <Smil3> its up
#2613 [18:39] <Smil3> confirmed in denmark
#2614 [18:40] <Smil3> !check 192.168.0.122
#2615 [18:40] <Smil3> !check 91.100.47.163
#2616 [18:40] <Smil3> what?
#2617 [18:41] <Smil3> u serious bot?
#2618 [18:41] <Smil3> ... wait
#2619 [18:41] <Smil3> can someone connect to my gmae?
#2620 [18:42] <Kealper> if AuBot could, then it means that it should be connectable
#2621 [18:42] * h [h@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2622 [18:42] <Smil3> can u though?
#2623 [18:43] <xales> If it works for the bot, then it would work for anyone
#2624 [18:43] <Smil3> 91.100.47.163
#2625 [18:43] <Smil3> connect someone please
#2626 [18:43] <skope> damn weird thing this tho
#2627 [18:43] <skope> doesn't work in browser
#2628 [18:44] <skope> can it be firewall problem?
#2629 [18:44] <Vector> for an outgoing port? not likely
#2630 [18:44] <xales> Smil3: It works, you don't need someone to test it
#2631 [18:44] <Vector> if it's on your home network
#2632 [18:45] <Smil3> i dont trust bots
#2633 [18:45] <xales> Too bad
#2634 [18:45] <skope> Vector: server is in home network too
#2635 [18:45] <Vector> it just initiates a connection test, that's all
#2636 [18:46] <Vector> well check to see if the server has any firewall on it
#2637 [18:46] <skope> works well from the other computer in the lan
#2638 [18:46] <gPad2002> Smil3: Nobody is going to join because we've had people stealing our session IDs and ,masquerading as us
#2639 [18:46] <skope> weird problem
#2640 [18:46] <Smil3> o
#2641 [18:46] <Smil3> sorry
#2642 [18:46] <Smil3> didnt know gPad
#2643 [18:46] <gPad2002> Now you do :P
#2644 [18:46] <Kealper> which is why the bot does it for us
#2645 [18:47] <Kealper> if the bot can connect, anyone else can
#2646 [18:47] <Smil3> though it just some people are just lazy
#2647 [18:47] <Smil3> and might not be here to log in a random server
#2648 [18:47] <gPad2002> I intend on writing a bot that actually acts as a minimal client
#2649 [18:47] <gPad2002> For testing
#2650 [18:47] <Kealper> yeah, i was just talking about that, that i eventually want to make aubot perform a handshake
#2651 [18:47] <gPad2002> I'll make it chat
#2652 [18:48] <gPad2002> Because I can and it's a good test
#2653 [18:48] <gPad2002> :ap
#2654 [18:48] <Kealper> lol
#2655 [18:48] <gPad2002> :P*
#2656 [18:48] * Smile [Smile@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2657 [18:48] <Smile> Soz
#2658 [18:48] <Smile> exited tab for some reason
#2659 [18:49] <Smile> change name how?
#2660 [18:49] <xales> /nick (name)
#2661 [18:49] <Smil3> ty
#2662 [18:49] * h [h@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2663 [18:49] <Kealper> hmm
#2664 [18:49] <Kealper> i wonder...
#2665 [18:50] <xales> hmm
#2666 [18:50] <Kealper> AutoIt, AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!
#2667 [18:50] <xales> You wonder
#2668 [18:50] <xales> NOOO
#2669 [18:50] <xales> No AutoIt
#2670 [18:50] * Kealper makes something
#2670 [18:50] <xales> Kealper, do it in (!AutoIt)
#2671 [18:50] <Kealper> i don't know how to do what i want in C :<
#2672 [18:50] <xales> Python
#2673 [18:50] <Kealper> and what i'm wanting to do would be easy in au3
#2674 [18:50] <gPad2002> I could do it in python
#2675 [18:50] <gPad2002> But
#2676 [18:50] <gPad2002> Where's the fun in that?
#2677 [18:50] <Kealper> i know more C than i do Python....lol
#2678 [18:50] <gPad2002> :P
#2679 [18:51] <gPad2002> I'm about the same with Python and C++/Qt
#2680 [18:52] <aetherian> Kealper: what do you want to do, in C
#2681 [18:52] <Kealper> not in C
#2682 [18:52] <Kealper> in au3
#2683 [18:53] <aetherian> <Kealper> i don't know how to do what i want in C :<
#2684 [18:53] <Kealper> try to fix a lag problem with minecraft
#2685 [18:53] <aetherian> I see
#2686 [18:53] * Bunzlee [Bunzlee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2687 [18:53] <Kealper> i seen something that worked for someone else, so i'm going to try and recreate it
#2688 [18:54] <aetherian> oh
#2689 [18:54] <aetherian> you seen something
#2690 [18:54] * Kealper slaps aetherian around a bit with a large trout
#2690 [18:54] <aetherian> Kealper: rather large trout
#2691 [18:54] <aetherian> not large trout
#2692 [18:54] <aetherian> :>
#2693 [18:54] * Kealper slaps aetherian around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout
#2693 [18:54] <VoxelHead> =]
#2694 [18:54] <Kealper> /bigslap user ftw
#2695 [18:55] <gPad2002> Lol.
#2696 [18:55] <aetherian> ...
#2697 [18:55] <aetherian> all my slaps are homemade fresh
#2698 [18:55] * xales slaps aetherian around a bit with a small Imperial-Class Stardestroyer
#2698 [18:55] <xales> /starslap user ftw
#2699 [18:55] <Kealper> XD
#2700 [18:55] <aetherian> except most aren't slaps, most are gruesome depictions of bloodshed
#2701 [18:56] <aetherian> :D
#2702 [18:56] * Kealper slaps aetherian around a bit with a Diamond Shovel
#2702 [18:56] <Kealper> hmm...
#2703 [18:56] <xales> Kealper: use $0 not $-
#2704 [18:56] * Kealper fixes that
#2704 [18:56] <Kealper> yeah, i noticed lol
#2705 [18:57] * Kealper slaps aetherian around a bit with a Diamond Shovel
#2705 [18:57] <Kealper> /shovelslap ftw?
#2706 [18:57] <VoxelHead> I like edam best of all
#2707 [18:57] <aetherian> /edamslap ?
#2708 [18:57] <Kealper> lol
#2709 [18:58] * Xytheron [Xytheron@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2710 [18:58] <gPad2002> Lol.
#2711 [18:58] <Xytheron> hey all!
#2712 [18:58] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2713 [18:58] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2714 [18:58] <Xytheron> I've got a really weird MC problem
#2715 [18:58] <Xytheron> anyone up for some troubleshooting?
#2716 [18:59] <skope> hmm, now that lagging problem solved
#2717 [18:59] <gPad2002> Xytheron: Just ask
#2718 [18:59] <Xytheron> Cool!
#2719 [18:59] <VoxelHead> r Coooooooooooooool!
#2720 [18:59] <Smil3> well i got to get some sleep after being awake for 20 hours, or ill fall asleep on my keyboard
#2721 [18:59] <gPad2002> vox, shut up
#2722 [19:00] <Smil3> thanks for your help if you helped me earlyer today,
#2723 [19:00] <Smil3> BB
#2724 [19:00] <Xytheron> So here's the deal, i've got Windows 7 64 bit...installed java 64 bit...and when i run MC.exe javaw.exe just spikes to 90% and the MC window never opens
#2725 [19:00] <gPad2002> Have you tried running the jar from the command line?
#2726 [19:00] <Xytheron> interesting no
#2727 [19:00] <Xytheron> how would i go about that
#2728 [19:01] <gPad2002> Sometimes it'll give you the errors
#2729 [19:01] <gPad2002> Or you could just open the java console and the EXE
#2730 [19:01] <Xytheron> i've got cygwin should i be running from cygwin or windows
#2731 [19:01] <gPad2002> (in that order)
#2732 [19:01] <gPad2002> From windows
#2733 [19:01] <Xytheron> when i look in my minecraft folder all i see is a .exe
#2734 [19:02] <Xytheron> which jar file are you referring to?
#2735 [19:02] <gPad2002> Try the EXE but open the java console first
#2736 [19:02] <gPad2002> (google that)
#2737 [19:02] <gPad2002> Any errors will then show up in the console
#2738 [19:02] <Xytheron> kk be back in a second once i get that working
#2739 [19:03] <gPad2002> Ok
#2740 [19:05] <Xytheron> interesting
#2741 [19:06] <gPad2002> Anything?
#2742 [19:06] <Xytheron> i selected show java console
#2743 [19:06] <Xytheron> then went to start menu
#2744 [19:06] <Xytheron> clicked java
#2745 [19:06] <Xytheron> it just flashed a cmd window
#2746 [19:06] <Xytheron> and nothign showed up
#2747 [19:06] <gPad2002> No, that's fine
#2748 [19:06] <gPad2002> Just run the exe
#2749 [19:06] <Xytheron> ok when i ran the exe no extra windows popped up or anything
#2750 [19:06] <gPad2002> In your system tray
#2751 [19:06] <Xytheron> it just does the usualy javaw.exe 92%
#2752 [19:07] <gPad2002> Is the java icon
#2753 [19:07] <gPad2002> Hopefully
#2754 [19:07] <Xytheron> mouse moves too slow but i'll see if i can get there, it'll be a few
#2755 [19:07] <gPad2002> Right-click that
#2756 [19:07] <gPad2002> Lol, ok
#2757 [19:08] <Kealper> ok....program has been made
#2758 [19:08] * Kealper fires it up for the first time, expecting loads of crashes and errors
#2758 [19:08] <Kealper> wait....
#2759 [19:08] * Kealper throws a lot of debug code in first
#2759 [19:08] <gPad2002> Lol.
#2760 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: have a new creation, do you?
#2761 [19:09] <Kealper> indeed
#2762 [19:09] <Xytheron> interesting
#2763 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> do tell
#2764 [19:09] <Xytheron> javaw.exe shows up in processes
#2765 [19:09] <Xytheron> but
#2766 [19:09] <Kealper> something that is a proof of concept for a minecraft lag/buffer overflow fix
#2767 [19:09] <gPad2002> No java icon?
#2768 [19:09] <Xytheron> when i set the icon to show in the tray
#2769 [19:09] <Xytheron> it says
#2770 [19:09] <Xytheron> this icon is not currently active
#2771 [19:09] <gPad2002> Hm
#2772 [19:09] <gPad2002> Ok
#2773 [19:09] <gPad2002> Try it from the browser
#2774 [19:09] <Xytheron> works fine from browser
#2775 [19:10] <gPad2002> Hm
#2776 [19:10] <gPad2002> Ok
#2777 [19:10] <Xytheron> javaw.exe has my system by the balls here
#2778 [19:10] <gPad2002> There's a second launcher EXE
#2779 [19:10] <Kealper> woh...that just started without any errors for the first time
#2780 [19:10] <gPad2002> I believe
#2781 [19:10] <gPad2002> So try that
#2782 [19:10] <Xytheron> oh my screen i think is trying to load the console
#2783 [19:11] <Xytheron> it's having a seizure while it does...but give it a second
#2784 [19:11] <Xytheron> (or an hour)
#2785 [19:11] * MK [MK@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2786 [19:11] <Xytheron> minecraft launcher shows up in my task bar now
#2787 [19:11] <Xytheron> like a program
#2788 [19:11] <Xytheron> but it won't bring anythign on the screen when i click it
#2789 [19:12] <Xytheron> also i only see 1 .exe file in my minecraft folder
#2790 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> there is an alternate .exe downloadable from the site, but it's actually just another URI for the same file :p
#2791 [19:13] <Xytheron> haha
#2792 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> (I `diff`ed them to check.)
#2793 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> the page is badly phrased; it should say "If this _download link_ doesn't work, try this other one."
#2794 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> As written, it implies that it's a different client.
#2795 [19:14] <Xytheron> minecraft worked fine on my machien before i reformatted
#2796 [19:14] <Xytheron> then now on the reformat it just doesn't want to play nicely
#2797 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> Xytheron: have you the latest GPU drivers?
#2798 [19:14] * CelesteA [CelesteA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2799 [19:14] <Xytheron> according to my DxDiag
#2800 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> I'd try redownloading and reinstalling the latest-and-greatest.
#2801 [19:15] <Xytheron> as well as when i reformatted last week i went to Nvidia's site
#2802 [19:15] * Orbitoid [Orbitoid@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2803 [19:15] <Xytheron> alright i'll redownload
#2804 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> 64- or 32-bit OS?
#2805 [19:15] <Xytheron> 64
#2806 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> and you have the 64-bit Java installed?
#2807 [19:15] <Xytheron> mhmm
#2808 [19:15] <Xytheron> originally 32 bit
#2809 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> have you tried..
#2810 [19:15] <Xytheron> but i fixed that
#2811 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/profile
#2812 [19:15] <Xytheron> when i realized
#2813 [19:15] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2814 [19:15] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2815 [19:16] <Xytheron> oh interesting point
#2816 [19:16] <Kealper> dangit....
#2817 [19:16] <Kealper> !isdown minecraft.net
#2818 [19:16] <GreyBot> Kealper: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2819 [19:16] <Xytheron> i'll download and then try that if the download doesn't help since i'll need the files on my system anyways
#2820 [19:16] <Kealper> hmm
#2821 [19:16] <Xytheron> Greybot it's been doing that all day
#2822 [19:16] <Xytheron> it keeps going up and down
#2823 [19:16] * Dpunkt [Dpunkt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2824 [19:16] <Xytheron> earlier it said it was down for all
#2825 [19:17] <Kealper> GreyBot is a bot...i just asked it to check lol
#2826 [19:18] <Xytheron> haha oh
#2827 [19:18] <Xytheron> well i made the user account
#2828 [19:18] <Kealper> oh, derp...forgot to clear the recieve buffers after sending them off
#2829 [19:18] <Kealper> after doing that, it's working well :o
#2830 [19:18] <Xytheron> but nothing
#2831 [19:18] <Xytheron> it just shows
#2832 [19:19] <Xytheron> Minecraft Launcher
#2833 [19:19] <Xytheron> as a program in the task bar
#2834 [19:19] <Xytheron> but both profiles do that
#2835 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> okay, so it's pretty clearly a system problem
#2836 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> I would advise one or both of these:
#2837 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> completely uninstall, then download and reinstall a new copy of, first Java, then your Video drivers
#2838 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> when you ininstall, check the control panel to ensure there are no oldcopies lying around
#2839 [19:19] <Xytheron> alrighty
#2840 [19:20] <Xytheron> i'll be back in a little then
#2841 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> before reinstalling
#2842 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> we'll be here; good luck!
#2843 [19:20] <Xytheron> thanks for the advice!!
#2844 [19:20] <Xytheron> much appreciated
#2845 [19:20] <Xytheron> with all these new changes
#2846 [19:20] <Xytheron> i've been stoked to play
#2847 [19:20] <Xytheron> but unfortunately my computer had other plans for me
#2848 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> heh
#2849 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> I know the feeling
#2850 [19:20] <VoxelHead> =D
#2851 [19:20] <Xytheron> lol building a new rig over the summer so hopefully it'll be less finicky
#2852 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2853 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> always fun.
#2854 [19:21] <Xytheron> yeah bought the quad channel ram today
#2855 [19:21] <Xytheron> it was exciting
#2856 [19:22] * Daxar [Daxar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2857 [19:23] * stevencrader [stevencrader@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2858 [19:23] <Kealper> ok..does anyone here have random massive lag on minecraft servers (all or specific ones), and would like to be a guinea pig? (for science, of course)
#2859 [19:24] <stevencrader> Hey everyone. I am at my friends house using a sever inside the network. About every 5-10 minutes i get kicked off the server but 2 other people don't. They are also inside the same network. I am on a mac and they are on windows. Do you know why this happens?
#2860 [19:25] <Kealper> what is the reason given on the kick?
#2861 [19:25] <Xytheron> DD-WRT
#2862 [19:26] <Xytheron> is your friend running a DD-WRT router or a Netgear in general?
#2863 [19:26] <stevencrader> i guess it isn't a kick but just disconnected
#2864 [19:26] <stevencrader> He is using a trendnet routher
#2865 [19:27] <stevencrader> *router
#2866 [19:27] <Xytheron> but not using DD-WRT?
#2867 [19:27] <stevencrader> no. the original firmware
#2868 [19:29] <Xytheron> mac's use an aetheros powered wifi adapter and i've found that the packet bursting as well as the bluetooth settings can play with macs
#2869 [19:29] <Xytheron> also i've heard weird stuff about mac
#2870 [19:29] <Xytheron> 's dropping wifi if their on battery and have bluetooth on
#2871 [19:29] <Xytheron> shit you not
#2872 [19:29] <Xytheron> hold up i'll find the write up on apple's site
#2873 [19:29] <stevencrader> ok. thanks
#2874 [19:30] <stevencrader> ok. this is just a recent occurance; a couple months ago the problem started
#2875 [19:30] <Xytheron> going over to the friend's house
#2876 [19:31] <Xytheron> or the wifi drops
#2877 [19:31] <stevencrader> the drop at my friends house
#2878 [19:34] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2879 [19:35] <Xytheron> this isn't the article i wanted
#2880 [19:35] <Xytheron> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/the-macbooks-mysterious-wifi-dropout-problem-is-still-unsolved/1441
#2881 [19:35] <Xytheron> but it'll get yu started
#2882 [19:37] <stevencrader> interesting but i think it may be something else because I don't have wifi troubles anywhere else.
#2883 [19:37] <stevencrader> and after getting disconnected from the server i have to wait 10-25 minutes to log back in
#2884 [19:38] <Xytheron> well one of the suspicious in the article
#2885 [19:38] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :[
#2886 [19:38] <Xytheron> stipulates it could be neighboring networks
#2887 [19:38] <Xytheron> so maybe a new neighbor set up a network
#2888 [19:38] <stevencrader> i see that
#2889 [19:38] <Xytheron> maybe he made changes
#2890 [19:38] <stevencrader> hmmm
#2891 [19:38] <stevencrader> do you have suggestions for router level changes?
#2892 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> try another Wifi channel maybe?
#2893 [19:39] <Xytheron> instead of auto
#2894 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> any chance you could test connecting by Ether to rule out Wifi as the problem?
#2895 [19:39] <Xytheron> set to a certain number
#2896 [19:39] <Xytheron> not 1
#2897 [19:39] <Xytheron> not 14
#2898 [19:39] <stevencrader> i will look into that
#2899 [19:39] <Xytheron> also
#2900 [19:39] <stevencrader> ok.
#2901 [19:39] <Xytheron> up the ACK timing
#2902 [19:39] <Xytheron> turn off
#2903 [19:39] <Xytheron> frame burst
#2904 [19:39] <stevencrader> i could also try just using a wired connection
#2905 [19:39] <Xytheron> preamble should be set to long
#2906 [19:40] <Xytheron> or that...
#2907 [19:40] <Xytheron> oooh
#2908 [19:40] <Xytheron> make sure the MTU is 1492
#2909 [19:40] <Xytheron> also that he's not running any port forwarding for a port you might need
#2910 [19:41] <Xytheron> if he has on any QoS for an xbox
#2911 [19:41] <Xytheron> it could be scooping up a random port
#2912 [19:41] <Xytheron> and that could be messing with your machine
#2913 [19:41] <stevencrader> ok
#2914 [19:41] <stevencrader> Do you suggest installing dd-wrt firmware? And if so, is it difficult? I am pretty techy but have never installed router firmware.
#2915 [19:42] <Xytheron> oh that's not a day job
#2916 [19:42] <Xytheron> with DD-WRT you can easily brick your router
#2917 [19:42] <Xytheron> you have to know what you're doing
#2918 [19:42] <Xytheron> read a lot about it
#2919 [19:42] <Xytheron> and also have a router that even accepts DD-WRT
#2920 [19:42] <Xytheron> you can check on
#2921 [19:42] <Xytheron> http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index
#2922 [19:42] <stevencrader> That is what I am reading. I think i will just stay away from that. I don't want to have to buy a new one
#2923 [19:42] <Xytheron> just type in the router name
#2924 [19:42] <Xytheron> here
#2925 [19:42] <Xytheron> http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database
#2926 [19:43] <Xytheron> if your router type is accepted
#2927 [19:43] <stevencrader> yeah. his router is supported
#2928 [19:43] <Xytheron> some have no risk because you can always reset
#2929 [19:43] <Xytheron> others have a brick risk
#2930 [19:43] <Xytheron> you'd have to read more about yours in the how to stuff
#2931 [19:43] * Captain-Lightning [Captain-Lightning@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2932 [19:43] <stevencrader> ok
#2933 [19:44] <Xytheron> but it took me a good 2 days to get the router installed, running, and configured right
#2934 [19:44] * Blackthorne [Blackthorne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2935 [19:44] <stevencrader> I don't have that kind of time. But thanks for the info on dd-wrt
#2936 [19:44] <Xytheron> figured
#2937 [19:44] <Xytheron> np
#2938 [19:44] <stevencrader> I will try the changes you mentioned for the wifi and see if that works
#2939 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> good luck!
#2940 [19:44] <stevencrader> Thanks for all your help.
#2941 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> it's why we're here
#2942 [19:52] <Xytheron> brb reboot
#2943 [19:52] * Captain-Lightning [Captain-Lightning@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2944 [19:55] <VoxelHead> I like them =]
#2945 [20:00] * Captain-Lightning [Captain-Lightning@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2946 [20:07] * Thoatt [Thoatt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2947 [20:07] <Thoatt> HOKAY BROTATOS
#2948 [20:08] <Wug> HOLA BROCHACHO
#2949 [20:08] <Thoatt> I need some peeps to help me test something
#2950 [20:08] <Thoatt> I need a few people with the constant lag issues.
#2951 [20:08] * Jackson413 [Jackson413@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2952 [20:08] <xales> "Constant lag issue" = "Subpar computer"? :P
#2953 [20:08] <Thoatt> No
#2954 [20:08] <lemon-rev> with muliplayer
#2955 [20:08] <Thoatt> The network issue lag issue.
#2956 [20:08] <Kealper> no, the one that random people get
#2957 [20:08] <Thoatt> correct.
#2958 [20:08] <Wug> im thinking constant lag issues as in lots of chat lag on every server
#2959 [20:09] <Thoatt> Correct.
#2960 [20:09] <Wug> soz, not afflicted
#2961 [20:09] <Wug> but I can host a server if needed
#2962 [20:09] <Thoatt> There's gotta be some people in here that have it. lol
#2963 [20:09] <Wug> ping everyone
#2964 [20:09] <Thoatt> /ping *
#2965 [20:09] <Kealper> lol
#2966 [20:09] <Thoatt> !ping
#2967 [20:09] <GreyBot> Thoatt Your Ping time was 0.749 seconds.
#2968 [20:09] <Thoatt> weak...
#2969 [20:10] <lemon-rev> thoatt i dont use muli cause i dont know decent servers to get on also have no other friends who do muliplayer atm lol
#2970 [20:10] <Thoatt> lol
#2971 [20:10] <Kealper> hmm
#2972 [20:10] <Wug> y u need help?
#2973 [20:10] <Wug> what are you going to try?
#2974 [20:10] <Thoatt> Because I don;t have the problem... but I think I have a solution,.
#2975 [20:10] <Kealper> lemon-rev: my server is working and decent :P
#2976 [20:10] <Thoatt> Wug, Magic.
#2977 [20:10] <Kealper> and i would help Thoatt, but i don't have the issue either
#2978 [20:10] <Wug> i've tried magic with no effect
#2979 [20:10] <Thoatt> use MOAR MAGIC
#2980 [20:10] <lemon-rev> :)
#2981 [20:10] <Wug> what specifically
#2982 [20:10] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2983 [20:11] <Kealper> well
#2984 [20:11] <Wug> i'll tell you if I've tried it
#2985 [20:11] <Wug> and i'll get you more help
#2986 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> I have had this problem, but only on servers which were appaerently running via IP over Cerrier Pigeon
#2987 [20:11] <Kealper> ...lol
#2988 [20:11] <Wug> it was probably on their end
#2989 [20:11] <Thoatt> Yes... I know...
#2990 [20:11] <Thoatt> To fix it though... you must be a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpCrj9Ysyjo&t=4s
#2991 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> (frex. one server that was in Belize, with an upload cap of 3.2 kilobits per second)
#2992 [20:12] <Wug> what about those who have this issue over wired connections
#2993 [20:12] <Thoatt> It's how I feel everytime someone needs help in here that is something easy... "WHO SUMMONS THE WIZ... oh it's you guys.."
#2994 [20:12] <Thoatt> wug
#2995 [20:12] <Thoatt> I
#2996 [20:12] <Thoatt> has
#2997 [20:12] <Thoatt> the
#2998 [20:12] <Thoatt> solution
#2999 [20:12] <Wug> also, not all wireless software is the same
#3000 [20:13] <VoxelHead> softwareless wire
#3001 [20:13] <Wug> by all means run it by me
#3002 [20:13] <Thoatt> Why would I need to run it by you? You aren't afflicted...
#3003 [20:13] <Wug> i'm interested in it
#3004 [20:13] <Thoatt> I'm sure you are :D
#3005 [20:13] <Wug> I get it if I host a server on windows
#3006 [20:13] <Wug> quite annoying
#3007 [20:14] <Thoatt> Thought you said you weren't afflicted...
#3008 [20:14] <Wug> (im running linux. right now im fine)
#3009 [20:14] <Kealper> it's a windows-only issue, it seems
#3010 [20:14] <Wug> and its only on servers i host, connecting to others is fine
#3011 [20:14] <Thoatt> I wonder if anyone has it in minecrap...
#3012 [20:14] <Thoatt> sec... joining that chan
#3013 [20:14] <Wug> and its not, i've seen people who have the same problem on linux
#3014 [20:15] <Kealper> might not be the same problem as the one that i'm thinking of
#3015 [20:15] <Wug> alright thoatt, I lied, I have the problem. 10 hour block lag and chat lag, I disconnect before I even log in. I have it the worst out of all of minecrafters. Now will you tell me how to fix it?
#3016 [20:15] <Kealper> the one that i think Thoatt's solution can fix is the NIC issues on windows machines
#3017 [20:16] <oldtopmanserver> !check
#3018 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> !check
#3019 [20:16] <Wug> ?
#3020 [20:16] <Kealper> and if anyone is thinking Thoatt is just trolling or whatever, i know what his fix he wants tested is, and i approve of it's safe-ness lol
#3021 [20:16] <Wug> then you tell me what it is
#3022 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: what, exactly, is the fix?
#3023 [20:17] <Wug> lol
#3024 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> Great news, AuBot- everything looks great from ehre!
#3025 [20:17] <Wug> !check
#3026 [20:17] <Wug> wut
#3027 [20:17] <Wug> 208.what?
#3028 [20:17] <Wug> what dns table are you looking at -.-
#3029 [20:17] <Thoatt> DopeGhoti, If I were to tell you, I don't want you stealing credit for the fix >:D
#3030 [20:18] <Wug> i don't intend to steal credit
#3031 [20:18] <Wug> so just tell me what it is and ill tell you if ive tried it before
#3032 [20:18] * Wug troubleshoots over teamviewer here a lot
#3032 [20:18] <Wug> for the record
#3033 [20:19] <Thoatt> tell me what you've tried, and I'll tell you if that's the thing I'm trying :P
#3034 [20:19] <Morrolan> Euhm, what exactly are you both trying to do? XD
#3035 [20:19] <Wug> you did not seriously just ask me to recount everything I've tried to do over months of doing this sis you
#3036 [20:20] <Thoatt> Then how can you be certain that you have/haven't tried my idea if I tell you it? :)
#3037 [20:20] <Morrolan> "Tell me what you did and I'll tell you what it is" -> "No, tell me what it is and I tell you if I've tried it" -> ...
#3038 [20:20] <Wug> I can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on listing everything
#3039 [20:20] * Morrolan is confused
#3039 [20:20] <Wug> or you can just tell me the one thing
#3040 [20:20] <Thoatt> and on and on?
#3041 [20:20] * Wug has lost interest. back to modding and #risucraft
#3041 [20:21] <Wug> have fun
#3042 [20:21] <Thoatt> Ok... BASICALLY.... it's telling the computer to not throttle the packets.
#3043 [20:21] <Wug> not all nics have that option
#3044 [20:21] <Thoatt> It's not a nic option.
#3045 [20:21] <Thoatt> Like I said... magic :)
#3046 [20:21] <Wug> I've looked around in the device manager at network driver options before, both on my computer and on remote ones
#3047 [20:21] <Wug> it's not always there
#3048 [20:21] <Thoatt> Nope... neither of those as well.
#3049 [20:21] <Kealper> nope, not what you're thinking
#3050 [20:22] * h [h@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3051 [20:22] <Kealper> you know how people say windows is GARBAGE for networking?
#3052 [20:22] <Kealper> yeah.
#3053 [20:22] <Thoatt> xD
#3054 [20:22] <Wug> yes, and that does factor into it
#3055 [20:22] <Wug> but I can get more than 20x as many connected clients on linux
#3056 [20:22] <Thoatt> I'd rather have a few people test it to make sure before I say that It's even a good fix lol
#3057 [20:22] <Wug> that seems a bit much
#3058 [20:22] <Morrolan> Kealper & Thoatt: Why don't you just tell us what the solution is?
#3059 [20:22] <Wug> he did, more or less
#3060 [20:23] <Kealper> it's Thoatt's solution, i just know what it is
#3061 [20:23] <Wug> changing settings somehow to prevent packet throttling
#3062 [20:23] <Thoatt> I'd rather have people test it before I say that it's the correct solution >.>
#3063 [20:23] * Xytheron [Xytheron@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3064 [20:23] <Xytheron> hey all
#3065 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> morning
#3066 [20:23] <VoxelHead> =D
#3067 [20:24] <Xytheron> no dice
#3068 [20:24] * Thoatt waves
#3068 [20:24] <Xytheron> uninstalled java
#3069 [20:24] <Morrolan> Thoatt: Well, but you could still say what the solution COULD be, couldn't you?
#3070 [20:24] <Xytheron> uninstalled gpu drivers
#3071 [20:24] <Thoatt> I could...
#3072 [20:24] * Diablothein [Diablothein@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3073 [20:24] <Xytheron> and at the end of it
#3074 [20:24] <Thoatt> Morrolan, Are you having that issue?
#3075 [20:24] <Xytheron> all i got out of it
#3076 [20:24] <Diablothein> Kealpybby!
#3077 [20:24] <Xytheron> was staring at 600x400 screen resolutions for 10 minutes
#3078 [20:24] * Daxar [Daxar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3079 [20:24] <Kealper> ._.
#3080 [20:25] <Morrolan> Thoatt: I have, honestly, no idea what issue that solution should be for. Just came here and it was like "tell me", "no, tell me", ... ^^
#3081 [20:25] <Thoatt> ok Morrolan Wanna test the fix?
#3082 [20:25] <Morrolan> Uh, I don't know if I have the issue, but whatever.
#3083 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> I don't care who came up with a fix or what, but if it's FAQdb-worthy, I'm happy to throw it in there with a 'Thanks, Thoatt!'.
#3084 [20:25] <Thoatt> do you get chat lag on multiplayer?
#3085 [20:26] <Morrolan> Only on servers far away or when it's getting crowded.
#3086 [20:26] <Thoatt> not computer lag from not being able to play the game, but chat lag.
#3087 [20:26] <Morrolan> Normally not, nope.
#3088 [20:26] <Thoatt> :/
#3089 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Well, the chat lag thing was supposedly fixed already by mojang in 1.5
#3090 [20:27] <Thoatt> Nope.
#3091 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> No?
#3092 [20:27] * Harley [Harley@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3093 [20:27] <Kealper> it fixed some cases, but there are many who still have it
#3094 [20:28] <Harley> i need help to set up a minecraft server
#3095 [20:28] <LordTrevor> lOl
#3096 [20:28] <Harley> for some reason ive set it up but it does not show up under minecraft
#3097 [20:28] <Morrolan> Harley: Hmm?
#3098 [20:28] <Wug> if it has to do with flow control
#3099 [20:28] <Morrolan> Only classic server show up there.
#3100 [20:28] <Morrolan> Or are you trying to set up a classic one?
#3101 [20:28] <Harley> on multiplayer
#3102 [20:28] <Harley> im trying to install the java one
#3103 [20:28] <Harley> not .bat
#3104 [20:28] <Wug> theyre all java ones
#3105 [20:29] <LordTrevor> wait your serious?
#3106 [20:29] <Morrolan> Yes, but are you trying to install a Beta or a Classic server?
#3107 [20:29] <Harley> yeah its for windows xp
#3108 [20:29] <LordTrevor> Exscuse me while I laugh harder
#3109 [20:29] <Morrolan> LordTrevor: Hmm?
#3110 [20:29] <VoxelHead> I didn't like it before.
#3111 [20:29] <Harley> which server do i download
#3112 [20:29] <Wug> ?? server
#3113 [20:29] <Morrolan> Harley: This depends, do you want to set up a CLASSIC or a BETA one?
#3114 [20:29] <Kealper> !server
#3115 [20:29] <Harley> better
#3116 [20:29] <Wug> harley have you bought the game or not
#3117 [20:29] <LordTrevor> the java one, he wants the java one
#3118 [20:29] <Harley> no
#3119 [20:30] <Morrolan> Lord: Shush, that won't help. :D
#3120 [20:30] <Wug> then you want a classic server
#3121 [20:30] <Harley> okay
#3122 [20:30] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3123 [20:30] <Wug> so neither of those will help you
#3124 [20:30] <Morrolan> See, Beta is with mobs and c rafting and stuff, and classic is with unlimited blocks and stuff.
#3125 [20:30] <Harley> but when i set it up no one can join and they just get kicked from it for some reason
#3126 [20:30] <Morrolan> I assume the classic one needs portforwarding as well?
#3127 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> The non-free one is the classic server, the server files for it are here:
#3128 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip
#3129 [20:31] <Wug> ^ you beat me
#3130 [20:31] <Morrolan> The FREE one is the classic server, Grey. :p
#3131 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Only people with the browser can join
#3132 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> er, right
#3133 [20:31] <Wug> lol u tired
#3134 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> People with the downloaded client will NOT be able to join the classic server you run
#3135 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Bah, I am very tired
#3136 [20:32] <Morrolan> ??< retro
#3137 [20:32] <Morrolan> XD
#3138 [20:33] <Morrolan> Actually it's not THAT funny, guess I should take a nap sooner or later.
#3139 [20:33] <Morrolan> ??< 1k
#3140 [20:33] * Iguana [Iguana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3141 [20:34] <Morrolan> Wait, does this issue still exist?
#3142 [20:34] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#3142 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> I've never needed to use that FAQ entry
#3143 [20:34] <Morrolan> Me neither.
#3144 [20:34] <Harley> verify-names=true do i change that to false
#3145 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> (still have no definitive clue as to what it is)
#3146 [20:35] <Morrolan> Harley: I don't adivse you to.
#3147 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Harley - Shouldn't need to..
#3148 [20:35] <Kealper> ??< 1k
#3149 [20:35] <Kealper> i've tried recreating that bug and was unable to
#3150 [20:35] <Kealper> i think it's fixed
#3151 [20:35] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#3152 [20:35] <Morrolan> ??< fcvo
#3153 [20:35] <Harley> so do i have to verify that name
#3154 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Harley - What do you mean?
#3155 [20:36] * Hypakiller [Hypakiller@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3156 [20:36] <Morrolan> Harley: It's done automatically by the server when connecting.
#3157 [20:36] <Harley> verify-names=true do i set this to true or false
#3158 [20:36] <Wug> keep it true
#3159 [20:36] <Harley> oh
#3160 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Leave it as True
#3161 [20:36] <Morrolan> If you set it to false anyone can connect with any name.
#3162 [20:36] <Harley> okay
#3163 [20:36] <Morrolan> ??< irc/vh
#3164 [20:36] <Harley> so how do i verfiy them
#3165 [20:36] <Morrolan> You don't need to.
#3166 [20:36] <Harley> oh
#3167 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> You don't, minecraft does when they connect
#3168 [20:36] <Hypakiller> hey can anyone hlpe with http://mibpaste.com/ZIxLYO
#3169 [20:37] <Harley> do i set growtrees true or false
#3170 [20:37] * oldtopman [oldtopman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3171 [20:37] <Morrolan> Harley: Well, do you want trees to grow or not?
#3172 [20:37] <Harley> nah i want to make them
#3173 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Hypakiller - What version of java are you running?
#3174 [20:37] <Morrolan> Harley: Set it to false then.
#3175 [20:37] <Harley> i made admin-slot=true
#3176 [20:38] <Hypakiller> i dont know
#3177 [20:38] <Hypakiller> how do i check?
#3178 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Harley - You honestly don't need to go through every option in server.properties
#3179 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> It should just work out of the box
#3180 [20:38] <Harley> oh
#3181 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Just port forward, and connect
#3182 [20:38] <Harley> i did
#3183 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Hypakiller - What distro are you on?
#3184 [20:38] <Harley> how do i make my self a admin
#3185 [20:39] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3186 [20:39] <Xytheron> So if GPU drivers and reinstalling java didn't work...any other suggestions?
#3187 [20:39] <Morrolan> Xytheron: What exactly was your issue again?
#3188 [20:39] <Xytheron> ah yes
#3189 [20:39] <Harley> Gaziopromoserver here the server name
#3190 [20:40] <Xytheron> my minecraft.exe
#3191 [20:40] <Harley> but when you connect it will not let you
#3192 [20:40] <Xytheron> when it's launched
#3193 [20:40] <Hypakiller> i dont know whats a distro but this is my java http://mibpaste.com/TlY3kr
#3194 [20:40] <Harley> Now accepting input on 25565
#3195 [20:40] <Xytheron> javaw.exe spikes to 90% of the CPU
#3196 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Harley - Add your name to um, admins.txt
#3197 [20:40] <Harley> i did
#3198 [20:40] <Xytheron> and then no windows shows up on the screen
#3199 [20:40] <Morrolan> Xytheron: Oh.
#3200 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Harley - Then restart the server
#3201 [20:40] <Xytheron> yeah lol
#3202 [20:40] <Harley> can someone try to connect
#3203 [20:40] <Harley> already restarted it
#3204 [20:40] <Morrolan> There was a mac user who had this issue yesterday I think.
#3205 [20:40] <Xytheron> I'm PC
#3206 [20:40] <Xytheron> windows 7 64 bit
#3207 [20:40] <Morrolan> Yep.
#3208 [20:41] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE PC? feel these nipples!
#3209 [20:41] <Harley> can someone try to connect to my server
#3210 [20:41] <Harley> now
#3211 [20:41] <Hypakiller> i can ip?
#3212 [20:41] <Harley> it has a server name
#3213 [20:41] <Harley> not a ip
#3214 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=c57f2274a0ba7c959ac342a7b093a00a
#3215 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> is harley's
#3216 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> ah, Classic.
#3217 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Could somebody help Hypakiller with installing a different java on his distro
#3218 [20:42] <Harley> does my server allow people to connect
#3219 [20:42] <Harley> okay
#3220 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Works fine Harley
#3221 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> I can connect
#3222 [20:42] <Harley> cool :D
#3223 [20:42] <Harley> thanks for your guys help
#3224 [20:42] * GreyVulpine nods
#3224 [20:42] <Harley> 10:42:34 GreyVulpine (/68.43.58.28) lost connection suddenly. (java.io.IOE
#3225 [20:42] <Harley> xception: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host)
#3226 [20:42] <Harley> 10:42:34 GreyVulpine (/68.43.58.28) disconnected
#3227 [20:43] <Harley> whats that mean
#3228 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I disconnected
#3229 [20:43] <Harley> how come
#3230 [20:43] <Morrolan> Harley: That's just if you close the browser tab I believe.
#3231 [20:43] <Harley> how do i fix it
#3232 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> run a more inviting server? (:
#3233 [20:43] <Hypakiller> Could someone please help me installing a different java on my distro?
#3234 [20:43] <Kealper> lol
#3235 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> No, I chose to close my browser, that's why you got it
#3236 [20:43] <Harley> oh
#3237 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> Hypakiller: what distro have you got?
#3238 [20:43] <Morrolan> Actually, is there a way of disconnecting in classic?
#3239 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Nope
#3240 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Just close the browser
#3241 [20:44] <Hypakiller> i know even know whats a distro
#3242 [20:44] <Harley> what kind of name should i make it
#3243 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Hypakiller - What flavor of linux are you running?
#3244 [20:44] <Morrolan> Ah, cause I was searching for it quite a lot. Thanks. :)
#3245 [20:44] <Hypakiller> unbuntu
#3246 [20:44] <Morrolan> Hypakiller: Uuh, and you're using Linux? Interesting. :D
#3247 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> why are you using words whose meanings you do not know?
#3248 [20:45] <Harley> Cohiveworld
#3249 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> That habit will make conversation difficult at best.
#3250 [20:45] <Harley> okay changed the name to that
#3251 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Okay um, ubuntu..
#3252 [20:45] <Harley> im on ubuntu
#3253 [20:45] <Harley> thats easy
#3254 [20:45] <Harley> im on windows and ubuntu
#3255 [20:45] <Harley> if you need help ill be happy to help
#3256 [20:45] * DopeGhoti hands Harley a "'".
#3256 [20:45] <Hypakiller> on my win it runs but i want to use it on my linux cuz its faster
#3257 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Hypakiller - You'll want to run...
#3258 [20:46] <Morrolan> Dope: How do you know he's not ill?
#3259 [20:46] <Hypakiller> i would really apriciate if you help me
#3260 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#3261 [20:46] <Harley> lol im surprized gnaa has not found here
#3262 [20:46] <Harley> which is a good thing
#3263 [20:46] <Hypakiller> http://mibpaste.com/wc5TZx
#3264 [20:47] <Hypakiller> i have already the newest version
#3265 [20:47] <Hypakiller> thats what my server said
#3266 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Um..
#3267 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Okay, then
#3268 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> ?? okay
#3269 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#3270 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> ^
#3271 [20:48] <Hypakiller> http://mibpaste.com/TwAzyM
#3272 [20:48] <Hypakiller> 1 , 2 , or three
#3273 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> 3
#3274 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> Drei
#3275 [20:48] <Hypakiller> thanks danke
#3276 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> Bitte.
#3277 [20:49] <Hypakiller> ok the root is now using 3
#3278 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Alright, before you launch the server again, go to your server.properties
#3279 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> remove the ip from server-ip
#3280 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Then launch it
#3281 [20:50] <Hypakiller> IAM ONLINE
#3282 [20:50] <Hypakiller> i love you all who helped me
#3283 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> Another satisfied customer (:
#3284 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#3285 [20:51] <Hypakiller> yes, and now that my community has a server, more customers will follow
#3286 [20:51] * goldeelox [goldeelox@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3287 [20:54] <Harley> Cohiveworld is this server showing up?
#3288 [20:54] <VoxelHead> Not without lubricant.
#3289 [20:54] * sgiratch [sgiratch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3290 [20:54] <Morrolan> Harley: Yep
#3291 [20:54] <Morrolan> But why didn't you just check yourself? ;)
#3292 [20:54] <Hypakiller> hey, now i have another question, where to get plugins?
#3293 [20:55] <Morrolan> hypakiller: For Bukkit?
#3294 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> bukkit's plugin list: http://plugins.bukkit.org/#ti=&ta=all&au=
#3295 [20:55] <Harley> can you join it
#3296 [20:55] <Morrolan> Harley: It worked before, so it will work now as well. ;)
#3297 [20:56] <Morrolan> Hypakiller: What GreyVulpine said, or check the bukkit forums.
#3298 [20:56] <Harley> how do u make a rules
#3299 [20:56] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3300 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Harley - That's beyond the capabilities of the vanilla server
#3301 [20:57] <Harley> oh
#3302 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to look into a modded server if you want that
#3303 [20:57] <Harley> can you make your own commands
#3304 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Again, modded server.
#3305 [20:57] <Hypakiller> where is a link where i can look that up?
#3306 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Custom_servers
#3307 [20:58] <Morrolan> Make sure to look in the proper category though. ;)
#3308 [20:58] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Custom_servers#Classic that is.
#3309 [20:59] <Harley> okay thanks
#3310 [21:00] <Morrolan> Euhm, what does "fCraft: Scripting - Binary" mean?
#3311 [21:00] <Harley> ill probley buy the game once the bank stop fucking around with my 100$ and given me the wrong details to put into my paypal acount
#3312 [21:00] <Harley> i can't type /lava
#3313 [21:00] <Harley> hey with the beta can you have a private server
#3314 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes Harley
#3315 [21:01] <Harley> that costs nothing
#3316 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> The server software for beta is also on the website
#3317 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3318 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#3319 [21:01] <Harley> i know
#3320 [21:01] <Harley> but i have not paid
#3321 [21:01] <Harley> so i can't run it
#3322 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to pay to run it
#3323 [21:01] <Harley> am i right
#3324 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> You only need to pay to play beta
#3325 [21:02] <Harley> but will people be able to use it
#3326 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3327 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> The server does not tie into any player's accounts.
#3328 [21:02] <Harley> becuase its not showing up on multiplayer
#3329 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> Servers are free; they're basically ads for the game.
#3330 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> The multiplayer list at minecraft.net is only classic
#3331 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> There is no master list of beta servers
#3332 [21:02] <Morrolan> Harley: This server list is for classic only, no matter how many times you'll ask. ;)
#3333 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> there is also no slave list of Beta servers.
#3334 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Kinky
#3335 [21:02] <Harley> you mean save
#3336 [21:02] <Harley> list
#3337 [21:03] <Mikau> Anyone here know the link to that video of Deadmau5's office?
#3338 [21:03] <Morrolan> Harley: Nope, he was making a funny. :D
#3339 [21:03] * VoxelHead shakes head
#3339 [21:03] <Mikau> I know I saw it on Youtube.
#3340 [21:03] <Harley> so how do you type lava in the classic server
#3341 [21:03] <Harley> or can't you?
#3342 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> press t, then l, a, v, and a; then Enter.
#3343 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> lava?
#3344 [21:04] <VoxelHead> Let me consult a fortune cookie.
#3345 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> There isn't a lava command in vanilla?
#3346 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> er
#3347 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> that's supposed to be a statement, not a question
#3348 [21:04] * DopeGhoti straightens GreyVulpine's ? into a !.
#3348 [21:04] <Harley> so can i have a free private server in the beta server maker
#3349 [21:04] <Kealper> lol
#3350 [21:04] <Morrolan> Yes.
#3351 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> Harley - Yes
#3352 [21:04] <Harley> cool
#3353 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> If you want to play on it yourself, you will need to pay for an account
#3354 [21:05] <Harley> why but i made the server
#3355 [21:05] <Mikau> Kealper
#3356 [21:05] <Mikau> Hey Kealper
#3357 [21:05] <Mikau> Kealper man
#3358 [21:05] <Kealper> Mikau
#3359 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> The server is free, the client is not
#3360 [21:05] <Mikau> sup
#3361 [21:05] <Morrolan> Harley: Server <> Client
#3362 [21:05] <Kealper> ._.
#3363 [21:05] <Mikau> dawg
#3364 [21:05] <Mikau> home slice
#3365 [21:05] <Mikau> 4shizzle the nizzle
#3366 [21:05] <Kealper> inb4 "whitelist me on your server"
#3367 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> inb4 "/mode +q"
#3368 [21:06] <Harley> but i made the beta server well im hosting it
#3369 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't give you the right to play on it for free Harley.
#3370 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> Harley: right. Hosting is free; to play, you must pay.
#3371 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> The beta client still needs a premium account to play
#3372 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> nearly all games operate like this.
#3373 [21:06] <Harley> okay
#3374 [21:06] <Morrolan> Harley: Say you were the owner of a supermarket. This does not give you the right to take whatever you want out of it.
#3375 [21:06] <Harley> im useing wom
#3376 [21:06] <Harley> anyways
#3377 [21:06] <Harley> yeah i know what you mean
#3378 [21:06] * Bofrostmann2 [Bofrostmann2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3379 [21:07] <Harley> you need the money to make the game better
#3380 [21:07] <Harley> now i under stand
#3381 [21:07] <Harley> once you pay do you need to pay every month
#3382 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> One time only
#3383 [21:08] <Morrolan> http://media.omaketheater.com/4koma/2011-04-29.jpg
#3384 [21:08] <Harley> as soon as you pay for it can you start playing it
#3385 [21:08] <Morrolan> Harley: Yes.
#3386 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Yes Harley.
#3387 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> more or less.
#3388 [21:08] <Kealper> once you pay for the game the first time (for 14.95 euros), you can play the game forever
#3389 [21:08] <Harley> so when i type my paypal money
#3390 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> sometimes it takes a little while for the transaction to go through
#3391 [21:08] <Harley> how meny days does it takew
#3392 [21:09] <Harley> take
#3393 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> Usually within a couple minutes
#3394 [21:09] <Kealper> but usually you can start playing within a few minutes of buying it
#3395 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> but in rare cases, it can take a day or three.
#3396 [21:09] <Harley> btw my money is australian
#3397 [21:09] <Kealper> PayPal converts it for you
#3398 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> It'll convert automatically
#3399 [21:10] * Shockman [Shockman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3400 [21:10] * LordTrevor [LordTrevor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3401 [21:10] <Shockman> hello
#3402 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#3403 [21:10] <Shockman> is it possible to run this game on intel g41 ?
#3404 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> is that a CPU or GPU?
#3405 [21:11] <Shockman> onboard graphics
#3406 [21:11] <oldtopman> Is that the sandybridge one?
#3407 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> If you can, it won't have the best of performance.
#3408 [21:11] <Shockman> i can run pes 2011 on med settings low res
#3409 [21:12] <Shockman> around 30 fps
#3410 [21:12] * hh_ [hh_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3411 [21:12] <Shockman> just an example
#3412 [21:12] * Count [Count@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3413 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Shockman - If minecraft doesn't run, try updating the drivers - http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/?iid=dc_iduu
#3414 [21:12] <Shockman> thx
#3415 [21:12] <Shockman> ill try that
#3416 [21:13] <Morrolan> I'm off, have a nice day.
#3417 [21:13] <VoxelHead> bye Morrolan
#3418 [21:13] * Shockman [Shockman@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3419 [21:14] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3420 [21:15] <lemon-rev> haha im watching a chicken disappear into dirt on a hill in front of me then reappear again wired lol
#3421 [21:15] <VoxelHead> You're on fire.
#3422 [21:15] <lemon-rev> i wish vox :P
#3423 [21:19] * Ghil [Ghil@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3424 [21:21] * Arcan [Arcan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3425 [21:22] <lemon-rev> hay have skelitons been given less than 100% shooting percent ? now
#3426 [21:22] * mib_jxkx42 [mib_jxkx42@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3427 [21:22] <mib_jxkx42> Hi
#3428 [21:22] <mib_jxkx42> Anyone there?
#3429 [21:22] * Afearot [Afearot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3430 [21:22] <Arcan> 'ello all.
#3431 [21:22] <lemon-rev> no
#3432 [21:22] <Afearot> Hello
#3433 [21:22] <lemon-rev> whats up
#3434 [21:23] <mib_jxkx42> anyone know why minecraft won't let me buy it?
#3435 [21:23] <mib_jxkx42> It's frustrating me.
#3436 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean? What happens when you try?
#3437 [21:23] <Arcan> You too?
#3438 [21:23] <mib_jxkx42> It's telling me that my card doesn't pass some security thing
#3439 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Try paypal?
#3440 [21:24] <mib_jxkx42> did that too.
#3441 [21:24] * qable [qable@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3442 [21:24] <mib_jxkx42> It tells me to use another card.
#3443 [21:24] <mib_jxkx42> V_V
#3444 [21:24] <mib_jxkx42> I only have two cards.
#3445 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Strange..
#3446 [21:24] <mib_jxkx42> Both are from the same bank.
#3447 [21:24] <lemon-rev> mib what type of card is it
#3448 [21:24] <lemon-rev> ?
#3449 [21:24] * hh_ [hh_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3450 [21:24] * bildramer [bildramer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3451 [21:24] <mib_jxkx42> mastercard
#3452 [21:25] <Afearot> I'm helping a friend with his minecraft. The first download link on the website is coming out to be an unreadable file for some reason and the second link works but Minecraft will crash after about 5min.
#3453 [21:25] * UMayBleed [UMayBleed@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3454 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Afearot - Do you get any sort of error report when it does crash?
#3455 [21:25] <lemon-rev> maybe mastercard with paypal just wont work, what about just stright payment if you dont use paypal or do u have to use it ?
#3456 [21:25] * tumbleweed [tumbleweed@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3457 [21:25] <UMayBleed> i need to signup
#3458 [21:25] <Afearot> No
#3459 [21:25] <Afearot> It just goes black
#3460 [21:25] <lemon-rev> aferarot update java
#3461 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Afearot - Then look into updating java and video drivers
#3462 [21:26] <Afearot> and we have to end the program to get out of it
#3463 [21:26] <mib_jxkx42> i tried the straight payment first
#3464 [21:26] * Daxar_ [Daxar_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3465 [21:26] <Afearot> okay ty
#3466 [21:26] <lemon-rev> mib your bank could be stoping you from purchasing it, ring your bank
#3467 [21:27] <Arcan> In my case: When I try to log into the site to purchase I get a "Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes." error. So I went and played AC:B for a couple hours and it still gives the same error. :/
#3468 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> Arcan: it's not you that's being throttled; it's the login server itslef.
#3469 [21:29] * Sqozza [Sqozza@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3470 [21:29] <Arcan> Oh, well that does make me feel better. I'll just keep trying then. I was afraid something was wonky with my login. I created it forever ago and just decided to buy. Thank you.
#3471 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#3472 [21:29] <VoxelHead> cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers
#3473 [21:30] * Zemedelphos [Zemedelphos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3474 [21:32] * Odysimus [Odysimus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3475 [21:35] * Freddy [Freddy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3476 [21:37] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3477 [21:39] * Snowblind [Snowblind@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3478 [21:40] * hh_ [hh_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3479 [21:42] * cyphez [cyphez@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3480 [21:52] <Arcan> Hmm. Still can't log in...
#3481 [21:53] <oldtopman> To what?
#3482 [21:53] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3483 [21:54] <Arcan> Trying to log into the main minecraft site to purchase and it keeps telling me "Login throttled, try again in a couple minutes". Been doing that for about two hours now.
#3484 [21:54] <oldtopman> Aww
#3485 [21:55] * hh_ [hh_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3486 [21:59] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3487 [21:59] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#3488 [22:00] * Ahroun1 [Ahroun1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3489 [22:00] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3490 [22:01] * Afearot [Afearot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3491 [22:01] <Afearot> Hi again
#3492 [22:02] <Afearot> I've updated all the video drivers and java. But its now freezing the game in about 3min 40sec.
#3493 [22:03] * hh__ [hh__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3494 [22:03] <Afearot> It's freezing after we load the world
#3495 [22:03] * Jackson413 [Jackson413@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3496 [22:03] * Dark_Fox__ [Dark_Fox__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3497 [22:03] <Jackson413> is kealper here?
#3498 [22:03] <Jackson413> keapler: you here man?
#3499 [22:04] <Afearot> no he's not
#3500 [22:04] <Jackson413> my minecraft is on its perio
#3501 [22:04] <Afearot> look at the name list
#3502 [22:04] <Jackson413> period
#3503 [22:04] <Jackson413> i have been successfully been running it since dec 21st
#3504 [22:04] <Afearot> bummer my friends too
#3505 [22:04] <Jackson413> and ive deleted the bin file
#3506 [22:04] <Jackson413> ive restarted my computer
#3507 [22:05] <Jackson413> i dont get why it isnt working
#3508 [22:06] * Roy [Roy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3509 [22:12] <oldtopman> wait.
#3510 [22:12] <oldtopman> What is up with the DD-WRT routers?
#3511 [22:17] * zenon [zenon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3512 [22:18] <zenon> black screen whats wrong?
#3513 [22:18] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3514 [22:18] * qable [qable@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3515 [22:19] <VoxelHead> bye zenon
#3516 [22:21] * hh_ [hh_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3517 [22:24] * Oerg866_ [Oerg866_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3518 [22:25] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3519 [22:28] * hh_ [hh_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3520 [22:29] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine, I assume you won't sue me for taking these channel rules and modifying them? :D
#3521 [22:29] <VoxelHead> Not particularly, no.
#3522 [22:29] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3523 [22:30] <xales> AG_Scott: I wrote them :P
#3524 [22:30] <xales> See you in court, bitch
#3525 [22:30] <xales> :P
#3526 [22:30] <AG_Scott> :(
#3527 [22:30] <AG_Scott> Really though, can I use them for another channel? lol
#3528 [22:30] <xales> Really though
#3529 [22:30] <xales> "see you in court"
#3530 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Really though... Rough
#3531 [22:31] <xales> ^
#3532 [22:31] <xales> I don't care
#3533 [22:31] <xales> :)
#3534 [22:31] <xales> do whatever you want
#3535 [22:31] <VoxelHead> :-)
#3536 [22:31] <xales> AG_Scott: I am releasing the rules under this license: http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/COPYING
#3537 [22:33] <AG_Scott> Nice :>
#3538 [22:34] * CelesteA [CelesteA@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3539 [22:34] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3540 [22:37] * hh_ [hh_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3541 [22:38] <Jackson413> kealper: you there?
#3542 [22:39] <Jackson413> i really need
#3543 [22:41] <oldtopman> Whazzup?
#3544 [22:41] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3545 [22:41] * fizyplankton [fizyplankton@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3546 [22:43] * N [N@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3547 [22:48] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3548 [22:48] * Telerus [Telerus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3549 [22:48] <Telerus> If anyone knows of a great vanilla minecraft server pm me
#3550 [22:53] <relsqui> I do, but not a public one <_< and that would've been rude
#3551 [23:09] <Jackson413> would any op be willing to teamviewer me and see what my problem is
#3552 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> What problem?
#3553 [23:10] <Jackson413> slow start up
#3554 [23:10] <Jackson413> then blackscreen
#3555 [23:10] <Jackson413> tehn crash
#3556 [23:10] <Jackson413> no mods installed
#3557 [23:10] <Jackson413> deleled bin
#3558 [23:11] <Jackson413> reinstalled it
#3559 [23:11] <Jackson413> idk what is wrong
#3560 [23:12] <Jackson413> restarted computer several times
#3561 [23:12] * hh_ [hh_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3562 [23:13] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3563 [23:13] <Jackson413> can you teamviewer my comp
#3564 [23:13] <Jackson413> and see what is wrong
#3565 [23:13] <Jackson413> i have no clue
#3566 [23:14] <oldtopman> With minecraft or the computer in general>
#3567 [23:14] * jonasm [jonasm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3568 [23:15] <jonasm> Hey - can anyone help me with AudioMod + Mac? Or is that on #risucraft ?
#3569 [23:15] <Jackson413> why it stopped working
#3570 [23:15] <Jackson413> it works for 4 months
#3571 [23:15] <oldtopman> jonasm: If it has to do with risus modloader, try #risucraft
#3572 [23:15] <jonasm> Okay, thanks dood.
#3573 [23:15] <jonasm> :D
#3574 [23:15] <Jackson413> and then fucks itself
#3575 [23:15] <VoxelHead> =D
#3576 [23:15] * jonasm [jonasm@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3577 [23:16] * mib_7ep4ek [mib_7ep4ek@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3578 [23:18] <VoxelHead> I like them ^_^
#3579 [23:18] * Midnightsrhythm [Midnightsrhythm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3580 [23:22] * Intense_Death [Intense_Death@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3581 [23:22] <Intense_Death> hello
#3582 [23:23] <Midnightsrhythm> hello /
#3583 [23:24] <Intense_Death> Is it possible to change the email connected to a minecraft acount? i accidentily put a comma instead of a period...
#3584 [23:25] <Midnightsrhythm> doesn't seem possible unless you contact administrator
#3585 [23:26] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3586 [23:27] <Intense_Death> well that sucks... i only realised when i looked at my profile page on minecraft.net and it said my e-mail appeared to be inactive (or something like that) and i seen i put a comma. time to go and pm notch on ywitter and see what he says...
#3587 [23:27] <Intense_Death> BYE!
#3588 [23:28] * hh_ [hh_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3589 [23:32] * hh [hh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3590 [23:34] * Dimedo [Dimedo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3591 [23:39] * mikypop [mikypop@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3592 [23:42] <Jackson413> IS KEALPER HERE?
#3593 [23:42] <Jackson413> caps
#3594 [23:42] <Jackson413> or any op
#3595 [23:42] <Jackson413> i really need help
#3596 [23:45] <oldtopman> I suggest highlight 'em all
#3597 [23:47] <aetherian> Jackson413 what is it.
#3598 [23:52] <Jackson413> minecraft
#3599 [23:52] <Jackson413> is screwed up
#3600 [23:53] <Jackson413> blackscreen on load
#3601 [23:53] <Jackson413> after mojang splsh
#3602 [23:53] <Jackson413> ive been using it on my comp for 4 monthes
#3603 [23:53] <Jackson413> and no hitch
#3604 [23:53] <Jackson413> deleted and reinstalled the bin folder in appdata
#3605 [23:55] <Jackson413> could you teamview me and see what is going on?
#3606 [23:57] * Noobsaurus [Noobsaurus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3607 [23:58] <Noobsaurus> I need help running minecraft on linux